From owner-freebsd-multimedia Sun Jul 18 0:34:26 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org Received: from bilby.prth.tensor.pgs.com (bilby.prth.tensor.pgs.com [157.147.232.237]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4D76514D34 for ; Sun, 18 Jul 1999 00:34:12 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from shocking@ariadne.prth.tensor.pgs.com) Received: from bandicoot.prth.tensor.pgs.com (bandicoot.prth.tensor.pgs.com [157.147.224.1]) by bilby.prth.tensor.pgs.com (8.9.3/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA02500 for ; Sun, 18 Jul 1999 15:32:01 +0800 (WST) Received: from ariadne.tensor.pgs.com (ariadne [157.147.227.36]) by bandicoot.prth.tensor.pgs.com (8.9.3/8.8.8) with SMTP id PAA05740 for ; Sun, 18 Jul 1999 15:33:15 +0800 (WST) Received: from ariadne by ariadne.tensor.pgs.com (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id PAA21216; Sun, 18 Jul 1999 15:33:14 +0800 Message-Id: <199907180733.PAA21216@ariadne.tensor.pgs.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.2 2/24/98 To: multimedia@freebsd.org Subject: Got quake3 test running with Riva TNT2Ultra Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Sun, 18 Jul 1999 15:33:14 +0800 From: Stephen Hocking-Senior Programmer PGS Tensor Perth Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I compiled up all the stuff myself as per the instructions on the nVidia web site. I had to get the Linux libGL.so from their binaries package. The frame rate is less than my old Canopus Voodoo1, but given how things are implemented, that's hardly suprising. It does make the FlightGear game usable as well. I'm looking forward to the DRI stuff becoming available. Stephen -- The views expressed above are not those of PGS Tensor. "We've heard that a million monkeys at a million keyboards could produce the Complete Works of Shakespeare; now, thanks to the Internet, we know this is not true." Robert Wilensky, University of California To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Sun Jul 18 1:10:33 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org Received: from phoenix.volant.org (phoenix.volant.org [205.179.79.193]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B840E14BE0 for ; Sun, 18 Jul 1999 01:10:27 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from patl@phoenix.volant.org) Received: from asimov.phoenix.volant.org ([205.179.79.65]) by phoenix.volant.org with smtp (Exim 1.92 #8) for multimedia@freebsd.org id 115m1i-0007DQ-00; Sun, 18 Jul 1999 01:10:26 -0700 Received: from localhost by asimov.phoenix.volant.org (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id BAA22420; Sun, 18 Jul 1999 01:10:30 -0700 Date: Sun, 18 Jul 1999 01:10:30 -0700 (PDT) From: patl@phoenix.volant.org Reply-To: patl@phoenix.volant.org Subject: Player(s) for MPEG4 and AVI/E18 To: multimedia@freebsd.org Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Are there any programs that run on FreeBSD (3.1R) that will play MPEG-4 ? How about AVI files with the E18 codec ? Thanks, -Pat To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Sun Jul 18 11:37: 0 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org Received: from pluto.ipass.net (pluto.ipass.net [198.79.53.5]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B59D714A2E for ; Sun, 18 Jul 1999 11:36:50 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from rhh@ipass.net) Received: from stealth.ipass.net. (ppp-4-156.dialup.rdu.ipass.net [209.170.134.156]) by pluto.ipass.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA25157; Sun, 18 Jul 1999 14:34:38 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from rhh@localhost) by stealth.ipass.net. (8.9.3/8.8.8) id OAA07581; Sun, 18 Jul 1999 14:36:52 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from rhh) Date: Sun, 18 Jul 1999 14:36:52 -0400 From: Randall Hopper To: Chris Knight Cc: freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Seeking tools for use with a Win/TV card. Message-ID: <19990718143652.A7364@ipass.net> References: <4.1.19990717192254.00976700@pop.ghostwheel.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.1i In-Reply-To: <4.1.19990717192254.00976700@pop.ghostwheel.com>; from Chris Knight on Sat, Jul 17, 1999 at 07:53:31PM -0700 Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Chris Knight: | I have recently installed a Win/TV card in my FreeBSD box, and am looking |for tools that would allow me to capture single frames, preferably with |brightness controll or some mechanism for auto adjustment. Check out Roger's: ftp://telepresence.dmem.strath.ac.uk/pub/bt848/examples/grab.c. It does single-frame captures and writes frames in PPM format. | I have modified the meteor capture tool at /usr/share/example/meteor, and |it is working, but I will need to be aqble to adjust the brightness/contrast. Just add a few: ioctl( c->tfd, BT848_SBRIG, &larg ) and: ioctl( c->tfd, BT848_SCONT, &larg ) unfortunately, these aren't device-independent values. larg needs to be values in: ( BT848_BRIGHTREGMIN , BT848_BRIGHTREGMAX ) or ( BT848_CONTRASTREGMIN , BT848_CONTRASTREGMAX ) | I have also installed fxtv, which although it is fantastic, doesn't seem |to do single frame captures. At least, not from what I see in the help |display. Fxtv is a gui app and doesn't do batch-mode single frame captures. However, you can interactively do it with freeze frame (camera button) and then File->ImageSave to save image to disk. | The end goal is to be using the Win/TV card, in conjunction with a X-10 |wireless video camera, for a webcam. Right, you want batch-mode frame captures. Try Roger's tool. Randall To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Sun Jul 18 11:38:12 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org Received: from pluto.ipass.net (pluto.ipass.net [198.79.53.5]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D8C2214EE8 for ; Sun, 18 Jul 1999 11:38:07 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from rhh@ipass.net) Received: from stealth.ipass.net. (ppp-4-156.dialup.rdu.ipass.net [209.170.134.156]) by pluto.ipass.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA25467; Sun, 18 Jul 1999 14:36:56 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from rhh@localhost) by stealth.ipass.net. (8.9.3/8.8.8) id OAA07602; Sun, 18 Jul 1999 14:39:10 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from rhh) Date: Sun, 18 Jul 1999 14:39:10 -0400 From: Randall Hopper To: Stephen Hocking-Senior Programmer PGS Tensor Perth Cc: multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Got quake3 test running with Riva TNT2Ultra Message-ID: <19990718143910.B7364@ipass.net> References: <199907180733.PAA21216@ariadne.tensor.pgs.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.1i In-Reply-To: <199907180733.PAA21216@ariadne.tensor.pgs.com>; from Stephen Hocking-Senior Programmer PGS Tensor Perth on Sun, Jul 18, 1999 at 03:33:14PM +0800 Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Stephen Hocking-Senior Programmer PGS Tensor Perth: |I compiled up all the stuff myself as per the instructions on the nVidia |web site. I had to get the Linux libGL.so from their binaries |package. The frame rate is less than my old Canopus Voodoo1, but given |how things are implemented, that's hardly suprising. It does make the |FlightGear game usable as well. I'm looking forward to the DRI stuff |becoming available. Sounds cool, though I was surprised when you said it was slower than your Pure3D. For those that don't know, what is it about how things are implemented that makes it so slow? I have a Pure3D as well and have been eying the TNT2 cards as well. So I'm interested in your results. Thanks, Randall To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Sun Jul 18 12:44:37 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org Received: from herring.nlsystems.com (nlsys.demon.co.uk [158.152.125.33]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E7FF014EC4 for ; Sun, 18 Jul 1999 12:44:33 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dfr@nlsystems.com) Received: from salmon.nlsystems.com (salmon.nlsystems.com [10.0.0.3]) by herring.nlsystems.com (8.9.3/8.8.8) with ESMTP id UAA32482; Sun, 18 Jul 1999 20:46:08 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from dfr@nlsystems.com) Date: Sun, 18 Jul 1999 20:46:07 +0100 (BST) From: Doug Rabson To: Randall Hopper Cc: Stephen Hocking-Senior Programmer PGS Tensor Perth , multimedia@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Got quake3 test running with Riva TNT2Ultra In-Reply-To: <19990718143910.B7364@ipass.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Sun, 18 Jul 1999, Randall Hopper wrote: > Stephen Hocking-Senior Programmer PGS Tensor Perth: > |I compiled up all the stuff myself as per the instructions on the nVidia > |web site. I had to get the Linux libGL.so from their binaries > |package. The frame rate is less than my old Canopus Voodoo1, but given > |how things are implemented, that's hardly suprising. It does make the > |FlightGear game usable as well. I'm looking forward to the DRI stuff > |becoming available. > > Sounds cool, though I was surprised when you said it was slower than your > Pure3D. For those that don't know, what is it about how things are > implemented that makes it so slow? > > I have a Pure3D as well and have been eying the TNT2 cards as well. So I'm > interested in your results. The simple answer is that it routes all graphics commands through the X server which involve a lot of data copies and context switches. The upcoming XFree86 4.0 will support 'direct rendering' where the application links with a version of GL which can access the hardware directly for maximum performance. -- Doug Rabson Mail: dfr@nlsystems.com Nonlinear Systems Ltd. Phone: +44 181 442 9037 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Mon Jul 19 11: 5:46 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org Received: from mail.wolves.k12.mo.us (mail.wolves.k12.mo.us [207.160.214.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9751614C04 for ; Mon, 19 Jul 1999 11:05:33 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from cdillon@wolves.k12.mo.us) Received: from mail.wolves.k12.mo.us (cdillon@mail.wolves.k12.mo.us [207.160.214.1]) by mail.wolves.k12.mo.us (8.9.3/8.9.2) with ESMTP id NAA68914 for ; Mon, 19 Jul 1999 13:04:07 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from cdillon@wolves.k12.mo.us) Date: Mon, 19 Jul 1999 13:04:06 -0500 (CDT) From: Chris Dillon To: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org Subject: DVD/MPEG2 hardware decoders Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Aaargh. I'm about to break down and buy a DVD player of some sorts. I've considered a standalone DVD player, but I would really love something that I could also use in my PC for the occasional overly-bloated game that barely fits on a DVD, let alone several standard CDs. A Toshiba SCSI DVD drive (no EIDE for me, thanks) and a Creative DXR3 decoder are about the same price as the average standalone DVD player ($300 US). Jordan at one time had mentioned talking to Creative about support for its DXR3 decoder board, but I don't remember hearing anything about it other than the initial "it'd be nice to have". Better yet (for me) would be a Matrox G400 MAX with the hardware MPEG2 decoder daughterboard, when it comes out. If it is not possible to play DVD videos under FreeBSD yet, is anyone aware of any PC based solutions that would let me simply pop a DVD title in the drive and have it begin playing via a hardware decoder without needing any kind of drivers or player software, akin to being able to pop an Audio CD in your CD-ROM drive and having it play it without software intervention? Booting to Winblows to be able to play videos is possible, but if I really wanted to do that I wouldn't have written this plea for suggestions and just went out and bought any of the available PC-DVD solutions. I have an eerie feeling I'm going to have to buy the standalone solution for now. Someone please tell me I don't have to do that, or that I wouldn't have very long to wait. :-) P.S. Will the emergence of XFree86 4.0 _really_ help to broaden our multimedia horizons where Unix is concerned, especially FreeBSD? I notice its feature wish-list is quite neat, though mostly pertaining to 3D acceleration. Will any of its new features help make using hardware such as MPEG decoders more of a reality? -- Chris Dillon - cdillon@wolves.k12.mo.us - cdillon@inter-linc.net FreeBSD: The fastest and most stable server OS on the planet. For Intel x86 and Alpha architectures (SPARC under development). ( http://www.freebsd.org ) "One should admire Windows users. It takes a great deal of courage to trust Windows with your data." To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Mon Jul 19 15:41:39 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org Received: from mail2.netcologne.de (mail2.netcologne.de [194.8.194.103]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D7CB514CD5 for ; Mon, 19 Jul 1999 15:41:33 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from van.woerkom@netcologne.de) Received: from oranje.my.domain (dial2-29.netcologne.de [194.8.195.29]) by mail2.netcologne.de (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id AAA12982; Tue, 20 Jul 1999 00:41:28 +0200 (MET DST) Received: (from marc@localhost) by oranje.my.domain (8.9.3/8.9.3) id AAA05134; Tue, 20 Jul 1999 00:39:58 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from van.woerkom@netcologne.de) Date: Tue, 20 Jul 1999 00:39:58 +0200 (CEST) Message-Id: <199907192239.AAA05134@oranje.my.domain> X-Authentication-Warning: oranje.my.domain: marc set sender to van.woerkom@netcologne.de using -f From: Marc van Woerkom To: cdillon@wolves.k12.mo.us Cc: freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG In-reply-to: (message from Chris Dillon on Mon, 19 Jul 1999 13:04:06 -0500 (CDT)) Subject: Re: DVD/MPEG2 hardware decoders Reply-To: van.woerkom@netcologne.de References: Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > be nice to have". Better yet (for me) would be a Matrox G400 MAX with > the hardware MPEG2 decoder daughterboard, when it comes out. That is what the Linux folks want to pursue. By using a hardware decoder several patent/licensing issues could be avoided. See these links: http://livid.on.openprojects.net/ http://slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=99/07/15/0533246 Regards, Marc To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Tue Jul 20 1:48:34 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org Received: from allegro.lemis.com (allegro.lemis.com [192.109.197.134]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 612DF14BD3 for ; Tue, 20 Jul 1999 01:48:15 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from grog@freebie.lemis.com) Received: from freebie.lemis.com (freebie.lemis.com [192.109.197.137]) by allegro.lemis.com (8.9.1/8.9.0) with ESMTP id SAA15520 for ; Tue, 20 Jul 1999 18:18:01 +0930 (CST) Received: (from grog@localhost) by freebie.lemis.com (8.9.3/8.9.0) id SAA85120 for FreeBSD-multimedia@FreeBSD.org; Tue, 20 Jul 1999 18:18:00 +0930 (CST) Date: Tue, 20 Jul 1999 18:17:59 +0930 From: Greg Lehey To: FreeBSD-multimedia@FreeBSD.org Subject: Opinions on HP ScanJet 5P, please Message-ID: <19990720181759.D84734@freebie.lemis.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.4i WWW-Home-Page: http://www.lemis.com/~grog X-PGP-Fingerprint: 6B 7B C3 8C 61 CD 54 AF 13 24 52 F8 6D A4 95 EF Organization: LEMIS, PO Box 460, Echunga SA 5153, Australia Phone: +61-8-8388-8286 Fax: +61-8-8388-8725 Mobile: +61-41-739-7062 Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I've just been offered an HP ScanJet 5P second hand for about $150. Is this a good deal? Any war stories? Greg -- See complete headers for address, home page and phone numbers finger grog@lemis.com for PGP public key To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Tue Jul 20 3:32:56 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org Received: from labinfo.iet.unipi.it (labinfo.iet.unipi.it [131.114.9.5]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id C98E51532D for ; Tue, 20 Jul 1999 03:32:50 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from luigi@labinfo.iet.unipi.it) Received: from localhost (luigi@localhost) by labinfo.iet.unipi.it (8.6.5/8.6.5) id KAA21742; Tue, 20 Jul 1999 10:05:42 +0200 From: Luigi Rizzo Message-Id: <199907200805.KAA21742@labinfo.iet.unipi.it> Subject: Re: Opinions on HP ScanJet 5P, please To: grog@lemis.com (Greg Lehey) Date: Tue, 20 Jul 1999 10:05:42 +0200 (MET DST) Cc: FreeBSD-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <19990720181759.D84734@freebie.lemis.com> from "Greg Lehey" at Jul 20, 99 06:17:40 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Content-Type: text Content-Length: 873 Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > I've just been offered an HP ScanJet 5P second hand for about $150. > Is this a good deal? Any war stories? not 100% sure on the model, the one i had was a SCSI model @300dpi which i thik was the ScanJet 5P but i might be wrong. When it worked it worked nice, but after 200 or so scans and 6 months of life it started a "graceful degradation" -- first lost BW at 300dpi, then 200dpi, then no more grey, then no more output in any mode, and the carriage would not stop at the end of the scan (or returning) and hit the case. It seems a very cheap design at least in the mechanical part -- there is no end sensor so if the encoder goes out of sync you are screwed and you need mainteinance. No easily available NT drivers for what matters... To summarise, i am quite disappointed with the product. I paid it new about US$200+vat a couple of years ago. cheers luigi To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Tue Jul 20 9: 1:40 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org Received: from acacia.cts.ucla.edu (acacia.cts.ucla.edu [164.67.62.44]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A697E15336; Tue, 20 Jul 1999 09:01:35 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from denis@acacia.cts.ucla.edu) Received: from localhost (denis@localhost) by acacia.cts.ucla.edu (8.9.3/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA68337; Tue, 20 Jul 1999 09:01:44 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from denis@acacia.cts.ucla.edu) Date: Tue, 20 Jul 1999 09:01:43 -0700 (PDT) From: Denis DeLaRoca To: Chris Piazza Cc: Scott Donovan , Randall Hopper , Bernie Doehner , emulation@FreeBSD.ORG, multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: RealPlayer G2 for Linux (6.0-0.99051701) In-Reply-To: <19990707074237.A311@norn.ca.eu.org> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Wed, 7 Jul 1999, Chris Piazza wrote: > On Tue, Jul 06, 1999 at 04:37:26PM +1000, Scott Donovan wrote: > > >Also, (relevent to this thread) I'm running Voxware. > > > > > > > Yep it looks as if voxware is a requirement :-( I get great vid, and no > > audio.. Arrgg.. kernel recompile here I come.. > > Well, no. I'm using pcm0 with an es1370 card and RealPlayer G2 > works like a charm. It's working ok for me too, thanks to Randall's install recipe, % uname -a FreeBSD ???.???.???.edu 3.2-RELEASE FreeBSD 3.2-RELEASE #5: Thu May 27 21:23:17 GMT 1999 root@???.???.???.edu:/usr/src/sys/compile/ROSEBUD i386 % cat /dev/sndstat FreeBSD Audio Driver (981002) May 27 1999 21:22:58 Installed devices: pcm1: at 0x328 irq 5 dma 5:7 %dmesg CSN 1 Vendor ID: GRV0001 [0x0100561e] Serial 0x09000000 Comp ID: @@@0000 [0x00000000] mss_attach 1 at 0x328 irq 5 dma 5:7 flags 0x17 pcm1 (GusPnP sn 0x09000000) at 0x328-0x32f irq 5 drq 5 flags 0x17 on isa And I am getting also an err msg from RealPlayer G2 LINUX: 'ioctl' fd=39 typ=0x44d(M), num=0x76 not implemented -- Denis To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Tue Jul 20 14:26:38 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org Received: from cs.rpi.edu (mumble.cs.rpi.edu [128.213.8.16]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9F4FB153D6 for ; Tue, 20 Jul 1999 14:26:04 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from crossd@cs.rpi.edu) Received: from cs.rpi.edu (phoenix.cs.rpi.edu [128.113.96.153]) by cs.rpi.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA36549; Tue, 20 Jul 1999 17:24:11 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <199907202124.RAA36549@cs.rpi.edu> To: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org Cc: crossd@cs.rpi.edu Subject: brooktree 848 and no sound Date: Tue, 20 Jul 1999 17:24:06 -0400 From: "David E. Cross" Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I posted this originally to -hackers but was told it should come here. -- I am helping a freind install FreeBSD on his machine (it is running 4.0-CURRENT now). everything works flawlessly, except his OEM BrookTree 848 based soundcard. The card itself is transplanted from his gateway machine (where it also had the same problems). Here are some specifics: (summary) Machine is a Dual-PII-400 with a SB-AWE64 PCI soundcard. The Bt848 is unrecognized, and I need to sysctl -w hw.bt848.tuner=[49] to get it to work (either one works as far as I can tell with no difference). (dmesg) Copyright (c) 1992-1999 The FreeBSD Project. Copyright (c) 1982, 1986, 1989, 1991, 1993 The Regents of the University of California. All rights reserved. FreeBSD 4.0-CURRENT #0: Tue Jul 13 20:33:07 EDT 1999 root@neshej-2.stu.rpi.edu:/usr/src/sys/compile/MABROOK Timecounter "i8254" frequency 1193182 Hz CPU: Pentium II/Xeon/Celeron (686-class CPU) Origin = "GenuineIntel" Id = 0x652 Stepping = 2 Features=0x183fbff real memory = 268435456 (262144K bytes) avail memory = 258150400 (252100K bytes) Programming 24 pins in IOAPIC #0 FreeBSD/SMP: Multiprocessor motherboard cpu0 (BSP): apic id: 0, version: 0x00040011, at 0xfee00000 cpu1 (AP): apic id: 1, version: 0x00040011, at 0xfee00000 io0 (APIC): apic id: 2, version: 0x00170011, at 0xfec00000 Preloaded elf kernel "kernel" at 0xc02fa000. Pentium Pro MTRR support enabled, default memory type is uncacheable Probing for PnP devices: CSN 1 Vendor ID: CTL00e4 [0xe4008c0e] Serial 0x01c574c8 Comp ID: PNPb02f [0x2fb0d041] pcm1 (SB16pnp sn 0x01c574c8) at 0x220-0x22f irq 5 drq 1 flags 0x15 on isa npx0: on motherboard npx0: INT 16 interface apm0: on motherboard apm: found APM BIOS version 1.2 pcib0: on motherboard pci0: on pcib0 WARNING: "bktr" is usurping "bktr"'s cdevsw[] chip0: at device 0.0 on pci0 pcib1: at device 1.0 on pci0 pci1: on pcib1 vga-pci0: irq 17 at device 0.0 on pci1 isab0: at device 7.0 on pci0 ide_pci0: at device 7.1 on pci0 uhci0: at device 7.2 on pci0 uhci0: could not map ports device_probe_and_attach: uhci0 attach returned 6 chip1: at device 7.3 on pci0 vx0: <3COM 3C590 Etherlink III PCI> irq 17 at device 16.0 on pci0 utp/aui/bnc[*utp*]: disable 'auto select' with DOS util! address 00:20:af:ee:32:94 Warning! Defective early revision adapter! isa0: on motherboard fdc0: at port 0x3f0-0x3f7 irq 6 drq 2 on isa0 fdc0: FIFO enabled, 8 bytes threshold fd0: <1440-KB 3.5" drive> at fdc0 drive 0 wdc0 at port 0x1f0-0x1f7 irq 14 flags 0xa0ffa0ff on isa0 wdc0: unit 0 (wd0): , DMA, 32-bit, multi-block-16 wd0: 13783MB (28229040 sectors), 28005 cyls, 16 heads, 63 S/T, 512 B/S wdc1 at port 0x170-0x177 irq 15 flags 0xa0ffa0ff on isa0 wdc1: unit 0 (atapi): , removable, accel, ovlap, dma, iordis wcd0: drive speed 5512KB/sec, 128KB cache wcd0: supported read types: CD-R, CD-RW, CD-DA, packet track wcd0: Audio: play, 256 volume levels wcd0: Mechanism: ejectable tray wcd0: Medium: CD-ROM 120mm audio disc loaded, unlocked atkbdc0: at port 0x60-0x6f on isa0 atkbd0: irq 1 on atkbdc0 psm0: irq 12 on atkbdc0 psm0: model Generic PS/2 mouse, device ID 0 vga0: at port 0x3b0-0x3df iomem 0xa0000-0xbffff on isa0 sc0: on isa0 sc0: VGA <16 virtual consoles, flags=0x200> sio0 at port 0x3f8-0x3ff irq 4 flags 0x10 on isa0 sio0: type 16550A sio1 at port 0x2f8-0x2ff irq 3 on isa0 sio1: type 16550A ppc0 at port 0x378-0x37f irq 7 flags 0x40 on isa0 ppc0: SMC-like chipset (ECP/EPP/PS2/NIBBLE) in COMPATIBLE mode ppc0: FIFO with 16/16/9 bytes threshold plip0: on ppbus 0 lpt0: on ppbus 0 lpt0: Interrupt-driven port ppi0: on ppbus 0 vx0 XXX: driver didn't set ifq_maxlen changing root device to wd0s1a SMP: AP CPU #1 Launched! acd0: read_toc failed (kernel config) machine i386 cpu I686_CPU ident MABROOK maxusers 64 options INET #InterNETworking options FFS #Berkeley Fast Filesystem options FFS_ROOT #FFS usable as root device [keep this!] options MFS #Memory Filesystem options NFS #Network Filesystem options MSDOSFS #MSDOS Filesystem options CD9660 #ISO 9660 Filesystem options PROCFS #Process filesystem options COMPAT_43 #Compatible with BSD 4.3 [KEEP THIS!] options UCONSOLE #Allow users to grab the console options USERCONFIG #boot -c editor options VISUAL_USERCONFIG #visual boot -c editor options SOFTUPDATES options KTRACE #ktrace(1) syscall trace support options SYSVSHM #SYSV-style shared memory options SYSVMSG #SYSV-style message queues options SYSVSEM #SYSV-style semaphores options SMP # Symmetric MultiProcessor Kernel options APIC_IO # Symmetric (APIC) I/O controller isa0 controller pnp0 # PnP support for ISA controller pci0 controller fdc0 at isa? port IO_FD1 irq 6 drq 2 disk fd0 at fdc0 drive 0 controller wdc0 at isa? port IO_WD1 irq 14 flags 0xa0ffa0ff disk wd0 at wdc0 drive 0 controller wdc1 at isa? port IO_WD2 irq 15 flags 0xa0ffa0ff device wcd0 #IDE CD-ROM controller atkbdc0 at isa? port IO_KBD device atkbd0 at atkbdc? irq 1 device psm0 at atkbdc? irq 12 device vga0 at isa? port ? conflicts device sc0 at isa? device npx0 at nexus? port IO_NPX irq 13 device apm0 at nexus? flags 0x31 # Advanced Power Management device sio0 at isa? port IO_COM1 flags 0x10 irq 4 device sio1 at isa? port IO_COM2 irq 3 device ppc0 at isa? port? flags 0x40 irq 7 controller ppbus0 # Parallel port bus (required) device lpt0 # Printer device plip0 # TCP/IP over parallel device ppi0 # Parallel port interface device device vx0 # 3Com 3c590, 3c595 (``Vortex'') pseudo-device loop # Network loopback pseudo-device ether # Ethernet support pseudo-device pty 256 # Pseudo-ttys (telnet etc) pseudo-device gzip # Exec gzipped a.out's pseudo-device bpfilter 4 #Berkeley packet filter controller uhci0 # UHCI PCI->USB interface controller ohci0 # OHCI PCI->USB interface controller usb0 # USB Bus (required) device ugen0 # Generic device uhid0 # "Human Interface Devices" device ukbd0 # Keyboard device ulpt0 # Printer device bktr0 controller iicbus0 controller iicbb0 controller smbus0 device ums0 # Mouse device pcm0 at isa? port? irq 5 drq 1 flags 0x15 - -- David Cross | email: crossd@cs.rpi.edu Systems Administrator/Research Programmer | Web: http://www.cs.rpi.edu/~crossd Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute, | Ph: 518.276.2860 Department of Computer Science | Fax: 518.276.4033 I speak only for myself. | WinNT:Linux::Linux:FreeBSD To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Tue Jul 20 15:27:33 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org Received: from pluto.ipass.net (pluto.ipass.net [198.79.53.5]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B30EF153F6; Tue, 20 Jul 1999 15:27:23 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from rhh@ipass.net) Received: from stealth.ipass.net. (ppp-1-141.dialup.rdu.ipass.net [209.170.132.141]) by pluto.ipass.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id SAA21838; Tue, 20 Jul 1999 18:27:17 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from rhh@localhost) by stealth.ipass.net. (8.9.3/8.8.8) id SAA01974; Tue, 20 Jul 1999 18:29:35 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from rhh) Date: Tue, 20 Jul 1999 18:29:35 -0400 From: Randall Hopper To: Chris Piazza Cc: Denis DeLaRoca , emulation@FreeBSD.ORG, multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: RealPlayer G2 for Linux (6.0-0.99051701) Message-ID: <19990720182935.B1450@ipass.net> References: <19990707074237.A311@norn.ca.eu.org> <19990721123118.B1599@norn.ca.eu.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.1i In-Reply-To: <19990721123118.B1599@norn.ca.eu.org>; from Chris Piazza on Wed, Jul 21, 1999 at 12:31:18PM -0700 Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Chris Piazza: |Denis DeLaRoca: | |> And I am getting also an err msg from RealPlayer G2 |> |> LINUX: 'ioctl' fd=39 typ=0x44d(M), num=0x76 not implemented | |I've been using this program extensively for the past few days |and AFAIK this warning means absolutely nothing. |It'd be nice if they released a version that had plugin support |for netscape, though :-). According to Marcel Moolenaar , it's OSS_GETVERSION. Likely it's trying to optimize the sound output based on sound driver version. I wouldn't be surprised if this is related to the video dogging down more and more as the clip plays; possibly it's blocking on sound driver writes (ISPACE, OSPACE, TRIGGER, and friends). Randall To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Tue Jul 20 19:56:26 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org Received: from w2xo.pgh.pa.us (w2xo.pgh.pa.us [206.210.70.5]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B085D1543E for ; Tue, 20 Jul 1999 19:56:15 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from durham@w2xo.pgh.pa.us) Received: from w2xo.pgh.pa.us (shazam.internal [10.0.0.3]) by w2xo.pgh.pa.us (8.9.2/8.9.1) with ESMTP id CAA18235 for ; Wed, 21 Jul 1999 02:55:18 GMT (envelope-from durham@w2xo.pgh.pa.us) Message-ID: <3795368A.CF76643B@w2xo.pgh.pa.us> Date: Tue, 20 Jul 1999 22:55:07 -0400 From: "James C. Durham" Organization: dis- X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.61 [en] (X11; U; FreeBSD 3.2-RELEASE i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org Subject: Blade Encoder speed Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Does anyone have any familiarity with the Blade MP3 encoder? I find it takes from 15-30 minutes or more to encode most music tracks from wav to mp3. Asking around at work (always *totally* accurate!) I was told it should take 2 or 3 minutes. This is on a P200MMX with 64 megs or RAM. -- Jim Durham To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Tue Jul 20 20: 7:21 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org Received: from golgotha.gsoft.com.au (spare6.gsoft.com.au [203.38.152.108]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 48F0915415 for ; Tue, 20 Jul 1999 20:07:14 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from doconnor@golgotha.gsoft.com.au) Received: (from doconnor@localhost) by golgotha.gsoft.com.au (8.9.3/8.9.3) id NAA07495; Wed, 21 Jul 1999 13:05:00 +1000 (EST) (envelope-from doconnor) Message-ID: X-Mailer: XFMail 1.3 [p0] on FreeBSD X-Priority: 3 (Normal) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="_=XFMail.1.3.p0.FreeBSD:990721130459:4791=_"; micalg=pgp-md5; protocol="application/pgp-signature" In-Reply-To: <3795368A.CF76643B@w2xo.pgh.pa.us> Date: Wed, 21 Jul 1999 13:04:59 +1000 (EST) From: "Daniel J. O'Connor" To: "James C. Durham" Subject: RE: Blade Encoder speed Cc: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org This message is in MIME format --_=XFMail.1.3.p0.FreeBSD:990721130459:4791=_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii On 21-Jul-99 James C. Durham wrote: > Asking around at work (always *totally* accurate!) > I was told it should take 2 or 3 minutes. > > This is on a P200MMX with 64 megs or RAM. You should express the compression time as a ratio of realtime to play vs compression time.. I find I can get about 1:1 on a PII-350. I think the compressors for Windows are much more optmized, or so it would seem.. --- Daniel O'Connor software and network engineer for Genesis Software - http://www.gsoft.com.au "The nice thing about standards is that there are so many of them to choose from." -- Andrew Tanenbaum --_=XFMail.1.3.p0.FreeBSD:990721130459:4791=_ Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP MESSAGE----- Version: 2.6.3ia iQCVAwUBN5U422j0TqzKxF7VAQGGqgQAhY42xTx2YNtzN3W05lBtkkh732puAxuZ nigL0qKCuUykZxPtvabhsy59qsF3+QdsXjwKOtMrjlyghH25/DBnKaeY9YTYweaU ceXE4iBMLJ7mlQOh4N7EVeAQODX8+NnT4odjlI9hdxmcErNTLNzCc6PvzUO2Mhr0 jOryQ+3M8Os= =yJpd -----END PGP MESSAGE----- --_=XFMail.1.3.p0.FreeBSD:990721130459:4791=_-- End of MIME message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Tue Jul 20 20:15:43 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org Received: from w2xo.pgh.pa.us (w2xo.pgh.pa.us [206.210.70.5]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B618315054 for ; Tue, 20 Jul 1999 20:15:35 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from durham@w2xo.pgh.pa.us) Received: from w2xo.pgh.pa.us (shazam.internal [10.0.0.3]) by w2xo.pgh.pa.us (8.9.2/8.9.1) with ESMTP id DAA18367; Wed, 21 Jul 1999 03:14:57 GMT (envelope-from durham@w2xo.pgh.pa.us) Message-ID: <37953B26.7C7A57C8@w2xo.pgh.pa.us> Date: Tue, 20 Jul 1999 23:14:46 -0400 From: "James C. Durham" Organization: dis- X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.61 [en] (X11; U; FreeBSD 3.2-RELEASE i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Daniel J. O'Connor" Cc: freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Blade Encoder speed References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org "Daniel J. O'Connor" wrote: > > On 21-Jul-99 James C. Durham wrote: > > Asking around at work (always *totally* accurate!) > > I was told it should take 2 or 3 minutes. > > > > This is on a P200MMX with 64 megs or RAM. > > You should express the compression time as a ratio of realtime to play vs > compression time.. > > I find I can get about 1:1 on a PII-350. I think the compressors for Windows > are much more optmized, or so it would seem.. > Hmmm.. In those terms, I'm saying that 3 minutes of play time (using the default 128K rate) takes about 15 minutes , or 5:1 . I'm loathe to have to boot M$ to encode. However, I have hundreds of hours of old audio tape I'd like to encode before it falls apart, but at that speed, it becomes a grueling task 8-) . -- Jim Durham To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Tue Jul 20 20:37:10 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org Received: from mail-out.visi.com (tele.visi.com [209.98.98.17]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AA6DB153F0 for ; Tue, 20 Jul 1999 20:37:05 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mestery@visi.com) Received: from isis.visi.com (isis.visi.com [209.98.98.8]) by mail-out.visi.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2ABDD1F815; Tue, 20 Jul 1999 22:35:48 -0500 (CDT) Received: from localhost (mestery@localhost) by isis.visi.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id WAA25755; Tue, 20 Jul 1999 22:35:47 -0500 (CDT) X-Authentication-Warning: isis.visi.com: mestery owned process doing -bs Date: Tue, 20 Jul 1999 22:35:47 -0500 (CDT) From: To: "Daniel J. O'Connor" Cc: "James C. Durham" , freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: RE: Blade Encoder speed In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Wed, 21 Jul 1999, Daniel J. O'Connor wrote: > > On 21-Jul-99 James C. Durham wrote: > > Asking around at work (always *totally* accurate!) > > I was told it should take 2 or 3 minutes. > > > > This is on a P200MMX with 64 megs or RAM. > > You should express the compression time as a ratio of realtime to play vs > compression time.. > > I find I can get about 1:1 on a PII-350. I think the compressors for Windows > are much more optmized, or so it would seem.. > On my dual 200MHz PPro system, I find it takes about 2:1 to compress, which probably isn't too bad, all things considered.:) -- Kyle Mestery | StorageTek's Storage Networking Group mestery@visi.com | http://www.freebsd.org/ mestery@netwinder.org | http://www.netwinder.org/ Protect your right to privacy: www.freecrypto.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Tue Jul 20 20:53:18 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org Received: from golgotha.gsoft.com.au (spare6.gsoft.com.au [203.38.152.108]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4AD4014FA5 for ; Tue, 20 Jul 1999 20:53:14 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from doconnor@golgotha.gsoft.com.au) Received: (from doconnor@localhost) by golgotha.gsoft.com.au (8.9.3/8.9.3) id NAA07542; Wed, 21 Jul 1999 13:51:08 +1000 (EST) (envelope-from doconnor) Message-ID: X-Mailer: XFMail 1.3 [p0] on FreeBSD X-Priority: 3 (Normal) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="_=XFMail.1.3.p0.FreeBSD:990721135108:4791=_"; micalg=pgp-md5; protocol="application/pgp-signature" In-Reply-To: Date: Wed, 21 Jul 1999 13:51:08 +1000 (EST) From: "Daniel J. O'Connor" To: Adam Subject: Re: Blade Encoder speed Cc: freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG, "James C. Durham" Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org This message is in MIME format --_=XFMail.1.3.p0.FreeBSD:990721135108:4791=_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii On 21-Jul-99 Adam wrote: > privately and I can supply it). If you get desperate, you can get their > AudioCatalyst app for windows. On my Celeron 300a running at 450 I can > encode an 8 minute song in 60 seconds. Some people do not like xing's > encoder, but I see nothing wrong with it and the speed is quite > astounding. I have heard bad things about it, but I think its gotten better.. Another thing to try would be to see if Wine runs a Windows compressor or not :) --- Daniel O'Connor software and network engineer for Genesis Software - http://www.gsoft.com.au "The nice thing about standards is that there are so many of them to choose from." -- Andrew Tanenbaum --_=XFMail.1.3.p0.FreeBSD:990721135108:4791=_ Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP MESSAGE----- Version: 2.6.3ia iQCVAwUBN5VDq2j0TqzKxF7VAQESsgP/e8/wibAFoW+N9kLZ/2ms2zSDke17K85i NKP++cPBmu0GkmiB7FOvH7v83OI0I1shXsBa8PFONv5qDRL7NAaegvEQbDRhzOjt DkT2q/pqkwOTm0WXk9dBgkPcxf/9wGlMeKtQv866nTYIq4/1xn1c9jXyUBB3seU1 Y74tzBIHpgM= =N9Cl -----END PGP MESSAGE----- --_=XFMail.1.3.p0.FreeBSD:990721135108:4791=_-- End of MIME message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Tue Jul 20 21:49:53 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org Received: from tele-post-20.mail.demon.net (tele-post-20.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.20]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BA1AE153DB for ; Tue, 20 Jul 1999 21:49:46 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gandalf@vilnya.demon.co.uk) Received: from vilnya.demon.co.uk ([158.152.19.238]) by tele-post-20.mail.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 2.12 #2) id 116oK9-0003a4-0K for multimedia@freebsd.org; Wed, 21 Jul 1999 04:49:46 +0000 Received: from nenya (nenya.rings [10.2.4.3]) by vilnya.demon.co.uk (8.9.3/8.9.1) with SMTP id FAA74996 for ; Wed, 21 Jul 1999 05:56:05 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from gandalf@vilnya.demon.co.uk) Message-ID: <002e01bed334$cb296380$0304020a@rings> From: "Cameron Grant" To: Subject: newpcm writeup Date: Wed, 21 Jul 1999 05:52:10 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org for the interested, a brief writeup on newpcm is now available at http://www.vilnya.demon.co.uk/design.txt please feel free to email me any questions or comments, or send them to this list. - cameron To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Tue Jul 20 22: 6:53 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org Received: from norn.ca.eu.org (cr965240-b.abtsfd1.bc.wave.home.com [24.113.19.137]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 13AD414E56 for ; Tue, 20 Jul 1999 22:06:48 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from cpiazza@norn.ca.eu.org) Received: by norn.ca.eu.org (Postfix, from userid 1002) id 4C5F6761; Wed, 21 Jul 1999 22:03:47 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 21 Jul 1999 22:03:46 -0700 From: Chris Piazza To: "James C. Durham" Cc: "Daniel J. O'Connor" , freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Blade Encoder speed Message-ID: <19990721220346.A3006@norn.ca.eu.org> References: <37953B26.7C7A57C8@w2xo.pgh.pa.us> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.6i In-Reply-To: <37953B26.7C7A57C8@w2xo.pgh.pa.us>; from James C. Durham on Tue, Jul 20, 1999 at 11:14:46PM -0400 X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 4.0-CURRENT Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Tue, Jul 20, 1999 at 11:14:46PM -0400, James C. Durham wrote: > "Daniel J. O'Connor" wrote: > > > > You should express the compression time as a ratio of realtime to play vs > > compression time.. > > > > I find I can get about 1:1 on a PII-350. I think the compressors for Windows > > are much more optmized, or so it would seem.. > > > > Hmmm.. In those terms, I'm saying that 3 minutes > of play time (using the default 128K rate) takes > about 15 minutes , or 5:1 . > > I'm loathe to have to boot M$ to encode. However, > I have hundreds of hours of old audio tape I'd like > to encode before it falls apart, but at that speed, > it becomes a grueling task 8-) . Ouch.. I've never encoded an mp3 before so I thought I'd take a stab at it. Here are my results. I have a K6-2 350 w/ 128mb of ram (running -current) using the 'gogo no coder' port (ports/audio/gogo) which includes 3D-Now! optimisations so that may help. The track is 8:12 long (a nice tune from the rave scene in '92, btw). Encoded at 128kbps, the output from the encoder is below (mostly in Japanese so excuse the mess :): norn[~/mp3]% gogo trip_ii_the_moon.wav out.mp3 午後のこ〜だ ver.0606 3D Now! is available. ファイル入力形式 : RIFF-WAVE FMT 再生周波数 : 44100 Hz 入力チャネル : 2 ch 入力サイズ(byte) : 87081984 byte データ始点(byte) : 44 byte MPEG 1, layer 3, 聴覚心理 2, ステレオモード 周波数=44.1kHz 全ビットレート=128kbps エラー保護[無効] 入力ファイル名 `trip_ii_the_moon.wav' 出力ファイル名 `out.mp3' frac SpF=0.959 slots/frame = 417 音声データの読み込み終了 (x 0.72) re:[00:00:00] to:[00:05:54] 平均 slots/frame = 417.959; b/smp = 2.90; br = 128.000 kbps エンコード終了 passed time= 354.18sec 354:492 = 0.71:1.. not bad. (The quality is good too, btw ;-) -Chris -- cpiazza@home.net cpiazza@FreeBSD.org "I don't like principles. I prefer prejudices." -Oscar Wilde To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Tue Jul 20 22:18:40 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org Received: from labinfo.iet.unipi.it (labinfo.iet.unipi.it [131.114.9.5]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id D508B14E56 for ; Tue, 20 Jul 1999 22:18:38 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from luigi@labinfo.iet.unipi.it) Received: from localhost (luigi@localhost) by labinfo.iet.unipi.it (8.6.5/8.6.5) id EAA23488; Wed, 21 Jul 1999 04:51:59 +0200 From: Luigi Rizzo Message-Id: <199907210251.EAA23488@labinfo.iet.unipi.it> Subject: Re: newpcm writeup To: gandalf@vilnya.demon.co.uk (Cameron Grant) Date: Wed, 21 Jul 1999 04:51:59 +0200 (MET DST) Cc: multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <002e01bed334$cb296380$0304020a@rings> from "Cameron Grant" at Jul 21, 99 05:51:51 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Content-Type: text Content-Length: 153 Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > > for the interested, a brief writeup on newpcm is now available at > http://www.vilnya.demon.co.uk/design.txt great graphics btw ! cheers luigi To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Tue Jul 20 22:36:42 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org Received: from golgotha.gsoft.com.au (spare6.gsoft.com.au [203.38.152.108]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C843414F02 for ; Tue, 20 Jul 1999 22:36:25 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from doconnor@golgotha.gsoft.com.au) Received: (from doconnor@localhost) by golgotha.gsoft.com.au (8.9.3/8.9.3) id PAA07697; Wed, 21 Jul 1999 15:32:59 +1000 (EST) (envelope-from doconnor) Message-ID: X-Mailer: XFMail 1.3 [p0] on FreeBSD X-Priority: 3 (Normal) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="_=XFMail.1.3.p0.FreeBSD:990721153259:4791=_"; micalg=pgp-md5; protocol="application/pgp-signature" In-Reply-To: <19990721220346.A3006@norn.ca.eu.org> Date: Wed, 21 Jul 1999 15:32:59 +1000 (EST) From: "Daniel J. O'Connor" To: Chris Piazza Subject: Re: Blade Encoder speed Cc: freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG, "James C. Durham" Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org This message is in MIME format --_=XFMail.1.3.p0.FreeBSD:990721153259:4791=_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii On 22-Jul-99 Chris Piazza wrote: > I have a K6-2 350 w/ 128mb of ram (running -current) > using the 'gogo no coder' port (ports/audio/gogo) Hey I didn't know that one existed.. neat :) > 354:492 = 0.71:1.. not bad. (The quality is good too, btw ;-) I tried Xing, Gogo, and Bladeenc on a Dual PII-350 -> test.wav - 407s long Xing Bladeenc Gogo (all at 128kb) time(s) 111 525 256.91 ratio 0.27:1 1.29:1 0.63:1 I have only heard the output of Bladeenc, but I'll see what the others sound like later on. The Xing encoder is US$20 from http://www.xingtech.com/ --- Daniel O'Connor software and network engineer for Genesis Software - http://www.gsoft.com.au "The nice thing about standards is that there are so many of them to choose from." -- Andrew Tanenbaum --_=XFMail.1.3.p0.FreeBSD:990721153259:4791=_ Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP MESSAGE----- Version: 2.6.3ia iQCVAwUBN5Vbi2j0TqzKxF7VAQFfsgP5AVUbJPKjVQd7CUH6vuZ4RPkj4gaZPqf6 tEDRNZz4kPIrrmpoLd210t2qnH0taTE5bbC5IDoP5ZSRefS2aLLz/HzvLlTmeg8h yO0+4DqukAwC+8omQpqQunlND6+AbxbRAXWbZ/Gv2Nz3O9Vo7hKyBgmQHvlnkHo0 CXL8/6HyZl8= =fpwx -----END PGP MESSAGE----- --_=XFMail.1.3.p0.FreeBSD:990721153259:4791=_-- End of MIME message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Tue Jul 20 22:39: 9 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org Received: from zippy.cdrom.com (zippy.cdrom.com [204.216.27.228]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4358B151CE for ; Tue, 20 Jul 1999 22:39:07 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jkh@zippy.cdrom.com) Received: from zippy.cdrom.com (jkh@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zippy.cdrom.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id WAA98564; Tue, 20 Jul 1999 22:38:38 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jkh@zippy.cdrom.com) To: Luigi Rizzo Cc: gandalf@vilnya.demon.co.uk (Cameron Grant), multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: newpcm writeup In-reply-to: Your message of "Wed, 21 Jul 1999 04:51:59 +0200." <199907210251.EAA23488@labinfo.iet.unipi.it> Date: Tue, 20 Jul 1999 22:38:38 -0700 Message-ID: <98560.932535518@zippy.cdrom.com> From: "Jordan K. Hubbard" Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org An even more interesting design... When can we see it? :) - Jordan > > > > for the interested, a brief writeup on newpcm is now available at > > http://www.vilnya.demon.co.uk/design.txt > > great graphics btw ! > > cheers > luigi > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Tue Jul 20 23:13:36 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org Received: from cs.rpi.edu (mumble.cs.rpi.edu [128.213.8.16]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2507215140 for ; Tue, 20 Jul 1999 23:13:34 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from crossd@cs.rpi.edu) Received: from cs.rpi.edu (phoenix.cs.rpi.edu [128.113.96.153]) by cs.rpi.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id CAA44315; Wed, 21 Jul 1999 02:12:20 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <199907210612.CAA44315@cs.rpi.edu> To: "David E. Cross" Cc: Juha.Nurmela@quicknet.inet.fi, crossd@cs.rpi.edu, freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org Subject: Re: brooktree 848 and no sound In-Reply-To: Message from "David E. Cross" of "Tue, 20 Jul 1999 22:30:00 EDT." <199907210230.WAA41981@cs.rpi.edu> Date: Wed, 21 Jul 1999 02:12:14 -0400 From: "David E. Cross" Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Ok, the latest 0current seems to recognize the card, but still no sound, here are some updated stats for ye-olde device: [...] CSN 1 Vendor ID: CTL00e4 [0xe4008c0e] Serial 0x01c574c8 Comp ID: PNPb02f [0x2fb0 d041] pcm1 (SB16pnp sn 0x01c574c8) at 0x220-0x22f irq 5 drq 1 flags 0x15 on isa [...] pcib0: on motherboard pci0: on pcib0 WARNING: "bktr" is usurping "bktr"'s cdevsw[] pcib1: at device 1.0 on pci0 pci1: on pcib1 [...] bktr0: irq 19 at device 20.0 on pci0 bti2c0: iicbb0: on bti2c0 iicbus0: on iicbb0 master-only smbus0: on bti2c0 STB TV/PCI, Philips NTSC tuner, dbx stereo. [...] and here is pciconf -l: chip0@pci0:0:0: class=0x060000 card=0x00000000 chip=0x71908086 rev=0x02 hdr=0x00 pcib1@pci0:1:0: class=0x060400 card=0x00000000 chip=0x71918086 rev=0x02 hdr=0x01 isab0@pci0:7:0: class=0x060100 card=0x00000000 chip=0x71108086 rev=0x02 hdr=0x00 ide_pci0@pci0:7:1: class=0x010180 card=0x00000000 chip=0x71118086 rev=0x01 hdr=0x00 uhci0@pci0:7:2: class=0x0c0300 card=0x00000000 chip=0x71128086 rev=0x01 hdr=0x00 chip1@pci0:7:3: class=0x068000 card=0x00000000 chip=0x71138086 rev=0x02 hdr=0x00 vx0@pci0:16:0: class=0x020000 card=0x00000000 chip=0x590010b7 rev=0x00 hdr=0x00 bktr0@pci0:20:0: class=0x040000 card=0x263610b4 chip=0x036e109e rev=0x02 hdr=0x00 none0@pci0:20:1: class=0x048000 card=0x263610b4 chip=0x0878109e rev=0x02 hdr=0x00 vga-pci0@pci1:0:0: class=0x030000 card=0x05501092 chip=0x002010de rev=0x04 hdr=0x00 Suggestions? -- David Cross | email: crossd@cs.rpi.edu Systems Administrator/Research Programmer | Web: http://www.cs.rpi.edu/~crossd Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute, | Ph: 518.276.2860 Department of Computer Science | Fax: 518.276.4033 I speak only for myself. | WinNT:Linux::Linux:FreeBSD To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Tue Jul 20 23:36:38 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org Received: from itchy.serv.net (itchy.serv.net [205.153.153.233]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 64D0D14E44 for ; Tue, 20 Jul 1999 23:36:36 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from utz@itchy.serv.net) Received: from localhost (utz@localhost) by itchy.serv.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id XAA32674; Tue, 20 Jul 1999 23:35:49 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 20 Jul 1999 23:35:31 -0700 (PDT) From: The Utz Family To: "Jordan K. Hubbard" Cc: Luigi Rizzo , Cameron Grant , multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: newpcm writeup In-Reply-To: <98560.932535518@zippy.cdrom.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Design looks pretty sweet, it seems possible that it would not have to be newbus, could be implemented over 3.x, yes? Or does newbus have key enhancements that make this design possible? ( non-catastroph...i mean non-destructive probes comes immediately to mind :-) ) Also, this is probably an off the wall question, but how would the onboard midi and synth stuff cohabitate with this functionality? On a slightly more concrete note, tell us about feeder.c. Is this the code that you base your assertion that you can do on the fly translation successfully? ( i noted the mention of multiple formats in the code ) If i assume that this is indeed the case, then why would you do it in sw? Dont most of the MSS or SB based cards have registers that you set to inform the card that it's getting/(or expected to output) a given format? My limited experience with sound and video processing would lead me to conclude that one would rather have the *card* burn cycles on formats instead of the *cpu*, because the card will just have to wait on the cpu otherwise. of course, if you have multiple PIII's and gigs of ram then this sort of processing would be effectively instantaneous wrt the human ear :-) Please excuse my ignorance if i am completely off base! On Tue, 20 Jul 1999, Jordan K. Hubbard wrote: > An even more interesting design... When can we see it? :) > > - Jordan > > > > > > > for the interested, a brief writeup on newpcm is now available at > > > http://www.vilnya.demon.co.uk/design.txt > > > > great graphics btw ! > > > > cheers > > luigi > > > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > > with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Wed Jul 21 0:34:53 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org Received: from labinfo.iet.unipi.it (labinfo.iet.unipi.it [131.114.9.5]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 1ED1E15471 for ; Wed, 21 Jul 1999 00:34:37 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from luigi@labinfo.iet.unipi.it) Received: from localhost (luigi@localhost) by labinfo.iet.unipi.it (8.6.5/8.6.5) id HAA23720; Wed, 21 Jul 1999 07:07:31 +0200 From: Luigi Rizzo Message-Id: <199907210507.HAA23720@labinfo.iet.unipi.it> Subject: Re: newpcm writeup To: utz@serv.net (The Utz Family) Date: Wed, 21 Jul 1999 07:07:30 +0200 (MET DST) Cc: jkh@zippy.cdrom.com, gandalf@vilnya.demon.co.uk, multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: from "The Utz Family" at Jul 20, 99 11:35:12 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Content-Type: text Content-Length: 1923 Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > On a slightly more concrete note, tell us about feeder.c. Is this the code > that you base your assertion that you can do on the fly translation > successfully? ( i noted the mention of multiple formats in the code ) > > If i assume that this is indeed the case, then why would you do it in sw? > Dont most of the MSS or SB based cards have registers that you set to > inform the card that it's getting/(or expected to output) a given format? some such cards do not support all formats one would desire, or they do in the data sheets but the chip is broken. the conversion is present also in voxware and pcm just for the reason above. a nicer feature would be to do conversion of *sampling rate*, and here i agree with you that the card should do this if possible, not the CPU. unfortunately MSS and SB cant' do that... cheers luigi > My limited experience with sound and video processing would lead me to > conclude that one would rather have the *card* burn cycles on formats > instead of the *cpu*, because the card will just have to wait on the > cpu otherwise. > > of course, if you have multiple PIII's and gigs of ram then this sort of > processing would be effectively instantaneous wrt the human ear :-) > > Please excuse my ignorance if i am completely off base! > > On Tue, 20 Jul 1999, Jordan K. Hubbard wrote: > > > An even more interesting design... When can we see it? :) > > > > - Jordan > > > > > > > > > > for the interested, a brief writeup on newpcm is now available at > > > > http://www.vilnya.demon.co.uk/design.txt > > > > > > great graphics btw ! > > > > > > cheers > > > luigi > > > > > > > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > > > with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message > > > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > > with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Wed Jul 21 2:56:10 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org Received: from fleming.cs.strath.ac.uk (fleming.cs.strath.ac.uk [130.159.196.126]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6954914F3C for ; Wed, 21 Jul 1999 02:56:03 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from roger@cs.strath.ac.uk) Received: from muir-10 (roger@muir-10.cs.strath.ac.uk [130.159.148.10]) by fleming.cs.strath.ac.uk (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id KAA29359 Wed, 21 Jul 1999 10:55:56 +0100 (BST) Message-ID: <3795992B.2781@cs.strath.ac.uk> Date: Wed, 21 Jul 1999 10:55:55 +0100 From: Roger Hardiman Organization: University of Strathclyde X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.04Gold (X11; I; OSF1 V4.0 alpha) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "David E. Cross" Cc: freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: brooktree 848 and no sound References: <199907202124.RAA36549@cs.rpi.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org David > OEM BrookTree 848 based soundcard. > The card itself is transplanted from his gateway machine > (where it also had the same problems). Here are some From what I can remember on the Linux Bt848 driver postings, Gateway OEM Bt848 card used a TDA9xxx audio chip which the FreeBSD driver does not support. The Linux guys added support for the card. The datasheets for the TDA9xxx audio chips are available on line at the Philips web site. So, someone needs to write support for the Audio Chip. It would not be me as I like in the UK and do not have this hardware. Anyway, can you do a few simple checks for me. 1) remove the card and email me the numbers on all the chips 2) with the card in. Run fxtv -debug startup and mail me the results. Thanks Roger To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Wed Jul 21 3: 7:56 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org Received: from fleming.cs.strath.ac.uk (fleming.cs.strath.ac.uk [130.159.196.126]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 931CA14E95 for ; Wed, 21 Jul 1999 03:07:51 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from roger@cs.strath.ac.uk) Received: from muir-10 (roger@muir-10.cs.strath.ac.uk [130.159.148.10]) by fleming.cs.strath.ac.uk (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id LAA29544 Wed, 21 Jul 1999 11:07:43 +0100 (BST) Message-ID: <37959BEF.15FB@cs.strath.ac.uk> Date: Wed, 21 Jul 1999 11:07:43 +0100 From: Roger Hardiman Organization: University of Strathclyde X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.04Gold (X11; I; OSF1 V4.0 alpha) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "David E. Cross" Cc: Juha.Nurmela@quicknet.inet.fi, freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: brooktree 848 and no sound References: <199907210612.CAA44315@cs.rpi.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org David, oops sorry. My previous reply about the Gateway OEM Bt848 cards does not apply to you. I thought you had an old Bt848 card. It seems you have the newer Bt878 card, make by STB. I already know that the sound on this card does not work. Unfortunatly I do not know why. It uses a standard TDA9850 (and not the rarer TDA9xxx chip other cards used). So, it should work. However, it does not. I've tried a few things myself but really we need to speak to STB engieners directly and ask them about their "audio multipexer wiring" I'll see if I can find a UK number and call them. Bye Roger To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Wed Jul 21 3:12: 2 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org Received: from uni-sb.de (uni-sb.de [134.96.252.33]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 306B41546A for ; Wed, 21 Jul 1999 03:11:10 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from netchild@wurzelausix.CS.Uni-SB.DE) Received: from cs.uni-sb.de (cs.uni-sb.de [134.96.252.31]) by uni-sb.de (8.9.3/1999070600) with ESMTP id MAA26986; Wed, 21 Jul 1999 12:06:31 +0200 (CEST) Received: from wurzelausix.cs.uni-sb.de (wurzelausix.cs.uni-sb.de [134.96.247.1]) by cs.uni-sb.de (8.9.3/1999031900) with ESMTP id MAA27558; Wed, 21 Jul 1999 12:06:30 +0200 (CEST) Received: from wurzelausix.cs.uni-sb.de (IDENT:PyRvybxFBcwstxcZABAgEWiCmYZWaUdR@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by wurzelausix.cs.uni-sb.de (8.9.1/8.9.1/wjp-SVR4/1998063000) with ESMTP id MAA01007; Wed, 21 Jul 1999 12:06:25 +0200 (CEST) Message-Id: <199907211006.MAA01007@wurzelausix.cs.uni-sb.de> Date: Wed, 21 Jul 1999 12:06:21 +0200 (CEST) From: Alexander Leidinger Subject: Re: Blade Encoder speed To: durham@w2xo.pgh.pa.us Cc: doconnor@gsoft.com.au, freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <37953B26.7C7A57C8@w2xo.pgh.pa.us> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/plain; CHARSET=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On 20 Jul, James C. Durham wrote: > I'm loathe to have to boot M$ to encode. However, > I have hundreds of hours of old audio tape I'd like > to encode before it falls apart, but at that speed, > it becomes a grueling task 8-) . If you only want to archive them (instead of stream them over the net), what about an encoder with VBR (e.g. Lame, http://www.sulaco.org/mp3/)? Here (PII-266) it encodes at about 0.6 times of play-speed. You should also have a look at the homepage and read a little bit about the quality. Bye, Alexander. -- http://netchild.home.pages.de A.Leidinger @ WJPServer.CS.Uni-SB.de To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Wed Jul 21 3:26: 4 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org Received: from qn-lpr2-98.quicknet.inet.fi (qn-lpr2-165.quicknet.inet.fi [194.251.102.165]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 411B41548B for ; Wed, 21 Jul 1999 03:25:59 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from junki@qn-lpr2-165.quicknet.inet.fi) Received: from localhost (junki@localhost) by qn-lpr2-98.quicknet.inet.fi (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id NAA04689; Wed, 21 Jul 1999 13:24:35 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from junki@qn-lpr2-165.quicknet.inet.fi) Date: Wed, 21 Jul 1999 13:24:35 +0300 (EEST) From: Juha Nurmela X-Sender: junki@pena.oh5nxo.ampr.org Reply-To: Juha.Nurmela@quicknet.inet.fi To: Roger Hardiman Cc: "David E. Cross" , freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: brooktree 848 and no sound In-Reply-To: <37959BEF.15FB@cs.strath.ac.uk> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Wed, 21 Jul 1999, Roger Hardiman wrote: > I thought you had an old Bt848 card. It seems you have the > newer Bt878 card, make by STB. > > I already know that the sound on this card does not work. Do they wire the basic audio from tuner-module pin 25 ? "The heaven is only an alligator clip away" '-) Juha To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Wed Jul 21 4:52:22 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org Received: from w2xo.pgh.pa.us (w2xo.pgh.pa.us [206.210.70.5]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D9E2B14F6A for ; Wed, 21 Jul 1999 04:52:19 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from durham@w2xo.pgh.pa.us) Received: from w2xo.pgh.pa.us (shazam.internal [10.0.0.3]) by w2xo.pgh.pa.us (8.9.2/8.9.1) with ESMTP id LAA21826 for ; Wed, 21 Jul 1999 11:50:36 GMT (envelope-from durham@w2xo.pgh.pa.us) Message-ID: <3795B402.AE0CA373@w2xo.pgh.pa.us> Date: Wed, 21 Jul 1999 07:50:26 -0400 From: "James C. Durham" Organization: dis- X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.61 [en] (X11; U; FreeBSD 3.2-RELEASE i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 Cc: freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Blade Encoder speed References: <199907211006.MAA01007@wurzelausix.cs.uni-sb.de> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Alexander Leidinger wrote: > > On 20 Jul, James C. Durham wrote: > > > I'm loathe to have to boot M$ to encode. However, > > I have hundreds of hours of old audio tape I'd like > > to encode before it falls apart, but at that speed, > > it becomes a grueling task 8-) . > > If you only want to archive them (instead of stream them over the net), > what about an encoder with VBR (e.g. Lame, http://www.sulaco.org/mp3/)? > Here (PII-266) it encodes at about 0.6 times of play-speed. You should > also have a look at the homepage and read a little bit about the > quality. > > Actually, I grabbed lame late last night (It appears the distfile has been removed from most sites and the patch file at the russian sites is truncated)... got it at ftp.internat.freebsd.org. I'm still at about 5:1. Guess this system is just that slow. Interesting... Thanks for all the replies. Much appreciated 8-). Jim Durham To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Wed Jul 21 7:46: 9 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org Received: from fleming.cs.strath.ac.uk (fleming.cs.strath.ac.uk [130.159.196.126]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 685D2154AC for ; Wed, 21 Jul 1999 07:46:04 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from roger@cs.strath.ac.uk) Received: from muir-10 (roger@muir-10.cs.strath.ac.uk [130.159.148.10]) by fleming.cs.strath.ac.uk (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id PAA04360 Wed, 21 Jul 1999 15:45:59 +0100 (BST) Message-ID: <3795DD25.41C6@cs.strath.ac.uk> Date: Wed, 21 Jul 1999 15:45:57 +0100 From: Roger Hardiman Organization: University of Strathclyde X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.04Gold (X11; I; OSF1 V4.0 alpha) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: multimedia@freebsd.org Subject: Multihead XFree86 4.0 beta 3.9.15 working Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi, You all may be interested in this. The first snapshot of XFree86 4.0 (ver 3.9.15) was released on the XFree86 web site a few days ago. http://www.xfree86.org It supports Multi-Head X11 (ie 2 or more VGA cards in one PC). (which I current do with XiG's Accellerated X 4.1) I have a two PCI matrox cards Matrox Millenium 4 Meg PCI Matrox Millenium II 4 Meg PCI After a download, build, install session and some time spent crafting the right /etc/XF86Config file, I can report it all works great. I have one 17" monitor running at 1024x768 24 bit colour And a 14" monitor running at 640x480 24 bit colour The snapshot is open to the public for testing. Why not have a go. Remember though, this is a first snapshot of new code. bye Roger -- Roger Hardiman Strathclyde University To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Wed Jul 21 7:49: 3 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org Received: from acacia.cts.ucla.edu (acacia.cts.ucla.edu [164.67.62.44]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B1A94154AC; Wed, 21 Jul 1999 07:49:01 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from denis@acacia.cts.ucla.edu) Received: from localhost (denis@localhost) by acacia.cts.ucla.edu (8.9.3/8.8.8) with ESMTP id HAA70186; Wed, 21 Jul 1999 07:48:16 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from denis@acacia.cts.ucla.edu) Date: Wed, 21 Jul 1999 07:48:16 -0700 (PDT) From: Denis DeLaRoca To: Randall Hopper Cc: Chris Piazza , Marcel Moolenaar , emulation@FreeBSD.ORG, multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: RealPlayer G2 for Linux (6.0-0.99051701) In-Reply-To: <19990720182935.B1450@ipass.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Tue, 20 Jul 1999, Randall Hopper wrote: > According to Marcel Moolenaar , it's OSS_GETVERSION. Likely > it's trying to optimize the sound output based on sound driver version. > > I wouldn't be surprised if this is related to the video dogging down more > and more as the clip plays; possibly it's blocking on sound driver writes > (ISPACE, OSPACE, TRIGGER, and friends). I am also seeing quite a bit of core dumps from this G2 player. My X-Server shared-memory configuration was low and I was getting some SHMGET errors when launching the palyer but increasing shared-memory hasn't stopped the core dumps. As I understand it, the Player's bandwith settings dtermine whether a session is played at low or hi bitrates. In my case, I have a 256Kbit/s ADSL connection and so configured my G2 player. But in this mode, incoming sessions that are played at 150-200Kbit/s only play for a few seconds before core-dumping -- I played some 100Kbit/s sessions fine but they appeared not to be reliable and eventually the playwer would core-dump. If I reconfigure the Player for a 112 Kbit/s (ISDN) bandwith setting then sessions are played at low-bitrates say 34-40Kbit/s and the player doesn't core dump. Do we have a baseline from someone using the player natively under Linux, ie., is it exhibiting the same behaviour under Linux or is this symptomatic of linux emulation under FBSD? For a test session that exhibits the above behaviour see www.broadcast.com/video/courttv. -- Denis To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Wed Jul 21 13:22:13 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org Received: from herring.nlsystems.com (nlsys.demon.co.uk [158.152.125.33]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5F7F815570; Wed, 21 Jul 1999 13:21:49 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dfr@nlsystems.com) Received: from salmon.nlsystems.com (salmon.nlsystems.com [10.0.0.3]) by herring.nlsystems.com (8.9.3/8.8.8) with ESMTP id VAA48010; Wed, 21 Jul 1999 21:23:58 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from dfr@nlsystems.com) Date: Wed, 21 Jul 1999 21:23:57 +0100 (BST) From: Doug Rabson To: Roger Hardiman Cc: multimedia@freebsd.org, alpha@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Multihead XFree86 4.0 beta 3.9.15 working In-Reply-To: <3795DD25.41C6@cs.strath.ac.uk> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Wed, 21 Jul 1999, Roger Hardiman wrote: > Hi, > You all may be interested in this. > > The first snapshot of XFree86 4.0 (ver 3.9.15) was released on the > XFree86 web site a few days ago. http://www.xfree86.org If there is any interest, I can prepare a patch to 3.9.15 to allow it to work on FreeBSD/alpha. I am gradually submitting fixes back to the XFree86 folks when I am happy with things and I expect 4.0 to work 'out of the box' for FreeBSD/alpha. -- Doug Rabson Mail: dfr@nlsystems.com Nonlinear Systems Ltd. Phone: +44 181 442 9037 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Wed Jul 21 16: 1:38 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org Received: from finch-post-11.mail.demon.net (finch-post-11.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.39]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 593F9155AA for ; Wed, 21 Jul 1999 16:01:22 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gandalf@vilnya.demon.co.uk) Received: from vilnya.demon.co.uk ([158.152.19.238]) by finch-post-11.mail.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 2.12 #1) id 1175MG-000HLb-0B for multimedia@freebsd.org; Wed, 21 Jul 1999 23:01:04 +0000 Received: from nenya (nenya.rings [10.2.4.3]) by vilnya.demon.co.uk (8.9.3/8.9.1) with SMTP id AAA76863 for ; Thu, 22 Jul 1999 00:07:42 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from gandalf@vilnya.demon.co.uk) Message-ID: <002301bed3cd$434f9d00$0304020a@rings> From: "Cameron Grant" To: Subject: Fw: newpcm writeup Date: Thu, 22 Jul 1999 00:03:34 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org oops, this was intended for the list, not just luigi. > > > If i assume that this is indeed the case, then why would you do it in > > > sw? Dont most of the MSS or SB based cards have registers that you set > > > to inform the card that it's getting/(or expected to output) a given > > > format? > > some such cards do not support all formats one would desire, or they do > > in the data sheets but the chip is broken. > > the conversion is present also in voxware and pcm just for the reason > > above. > > as luigi said, the purpose is to provide a consistent set of formats > supported across all cards. a lot of cards don't support ulaw at all, so > require software conversion to support /dev/audio. older cards don't do 16 > bit or stereo. also, with the ability to add arbitary filters to the audio > pipeline, we gain the possibility of more interesting things like 3d > positional audio- this could be done in hw if specifications were available. > > > a nicer feature would be to do conversion of *sampling rate*, and here > > i agree with you that the card should do this if possible, not the CPU. > > sample rate conversion would require minor modifications to allow disparate > hardware and logical rates in the same way as formats work. i'll probably > implement it eventually. > > > > My limited experience with sound and video processing would lead me to > > > conclude that one would rather have the *card* burn cycles on formats > > > instead of the *cpu*, because the card will just have to wait on the > > > cpu otherwise. > > when the card can do it, it does. when it can't, the cpu power required to > do it for it is miniscule- several years ago i was mixing 8 channels of 16 > bit audio upconverted from 8 bit, and resampled with linear interpolation > using about 15% cpu on a 386/40. translate that to a modern cpu and forget > about the mixing and you'll not be able to tell what is done in sw. > > - cameron > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Wed Jul 21 17:28:33 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org Received: from w2xo.pgh.pa.us (w2xo.pgh.pa.us [206.210.70.5]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DB64F155B2 for ; Wed, 21 Jul 1999 17:28:23 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from durham@w2xo.pgh.pa.us) Received: from w2xo.pgh.pa.us (shazam.internal [10.0.0.3]) by w2xo.pgh.pa.us (8.9.2/8.9.1) with ESMTP id AAA26265; Thu, 22 Jul 1999 00:26:31 GMT (envelope-from durham@w2xo.pgh.pa.us) Message-ID: <37966532.BC45B25E@w2xo.pgh.pa.us> Date: Wed, 21 Jul 1999 20:26:26 -0400 From: "James C. Durham" Organization: dis- X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.61 [en] (X11; U; FreeBSD 3.2-RELEASE i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Chris Piazza Cc: "Daniel J. O'Connor" , freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Blade Encoder speed References: <37953B26.7C7A57C8@w2xo.pgh.pa.us> <19990721220346.A3006@norn.ca.eu.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Chris Piazza wrote: >> I have a K6-2 350 w/ 128mb of ram (running -current) > using the 'gogo no coder' port (ports/audio/gogo) > which includes 3D-Now! optimisations so that may help. > The track is 8:12 long (a nice tune from the rave > scene in '92, btw). Encoded at 128kbps, the output > from the encoder is below (mostly in Japanese so excuse > the mess :): >passed time= 354.18sec > > 354:492 = 0.71:1.. not bad. (The quality is good too, btw ;-) Thanks, Chris, Here are my results with gogo ...much better Song length 1:39: blade: 17:10 lame: 6:34 gogo: 3:54 regards, Jim Durham To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Wed Jul 21 18: 1:38 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org Received: from dingo.cdrom.com (dingo.cdrom.com [204.216.28.145]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1B17D14D93; Wed, 21 Jul 1999 18:01:35 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mike@dingo.cdrom.com) Received: from dingo.cdrom.com (localhost.cdrom.com [127.0.0.1]) by dingo.cdrom.com (8.9.3/8.8.8) with ESMTP id RAA03016; Wed, 21 Jul 1999 17:54:33 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mike@dingo.cdrom.com) Message-Id: <199907220054.RAA03016@dingo.cdrom.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.2 2/24/98 To: Doug Rabson Cc: Roger Hardiman , multimedia@freebsd.org, alpha@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Multihead XFree86 4.0 beta 3.9.15 working In-reply-to: Your message of "Wed, 21 Jul 1999 21:23:57 BST." Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Wed, 21 Jul 1999 17:54:33 -0700 From: Mike Smith Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > On Wed, 21 Jul 1999, Roger Hardiman wrote: > > > Hi, > > You all may be interested in this. > > > > The first snapshot of XFree86 4.0 (ver 3.9.15) was released on the > > XFree86 web site a few days ago. http://www.xfree86.org > > If there is any interest, I can prepare a patch to 3.9.15 to allow it to > work on FreeBSD/alpha. I am gradually submitting fixes back to the XFree86 > folks when I am happy with things and I expect 4.0 to work 'out of the > box' for FreeBSD/alpha. That'd be fun. I have a 4/200 here that I'd love to see it running on, and yes, it's all yours to play with if you feel like making a start on the Alpha SMP issues. 8) -- \\ The mind's the standard \\ Mike Smith \\ of the man. \\ msmith@freebsd.org \\ -- Joseph Merrick \\ msmith@cdrom.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Fri Jul 23 13:55:39 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org Received: from mail2.netcologne.de (mail2.netcologne.de [194.8.194.103]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1534915092 for ; Fri, 23 Jul 1999 13:55:35 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from van.woerkom@netcologne.de) Received: from oranje.my.domain (dial4-73.netcologne.de [195.14.233.73]) by mail2.netcologne.de (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id WAA18421; Fri, 23 Jul 1999 22:54:42 +0200 (MET DST) Received: (from marc@localhost) by oranje.my.domain (8.9.3/8.9.3) id WAA03225; Fri, 23 Jul 1999 22:53:10 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from van.woerkom@netcologne.de) Date: Fri, 23 Jul 1999 22:53:10 +0200 (CEST) Message-Id: <199907232053.WAA03225@oranje.my.domain> X-Authentication-Warning: oranje.my.domain: marc set sender to van.woerkom@netcologne.de using -f From: Marc van Woerkom To: multimedia@freebsd.org Subject: RIVA update: specs & more Reply-To: van.woerkom@netcologne.de Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi Doug & rest of the RIVA crowd: Quite exciting news. 1. Lots of programming information is available now: https://www.nvidia.com/nv/nvarch.nsf/4de97d5dc60451ca882566e300745bfc?OpenView Looks like they basically distinguish between NT and Linux as development platforms. This itches.. Don't know how to judge this, and I am not the only one http://web.chad.org/dev/riva-tnt/faq.html according to the RIVA enlightenment project http://web.chad.org/dev/riva-tnt 2. I'm busy updating the riva-glx port to work with XFree86 3.3.4 Please let them don't release 3.3.5 on monday.. :) 3. Last question: We FreeBSD folks should try to get more visible. Do we have anyone on the XFree86 team? Regards, Marc To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Sat Jul 24 0: 7:38 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org Received: from herring.nlsystems.com (nlsys.demon.co.uk [158.152.125.33]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 88E2F14ECE for ; Sat, 24 Jul 1999 00:07:33 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dfr@nlsystems.com) Received: from herring.nlsystems.com (herring.nlsystems.com [10.0.0.2]) by herring.nlsystems.com (8.9.3/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA48523; Sat, 24 Jul 1999 08:09:30 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from dfr@nlsystems.com) Date: Sat, 24 Jul 1999 08:09:30 +0100 (BST) From: Doug Rabson To: Marc van Woerkom Cc: multimedia@freebsd.org Subject: Re: RIVA update: specs & more In-Reply-To: <199907232053.WAA03225@oranje.my.domain> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Fri, 23 Jul 1999, Marc van Woerkom wrote: > Hi Doug & rest of the RIVA crowd: > > Quite exciting news. > > 1. Lots of programming information is available now: > > https://www.nvidia.com/nv/nvarch.nsf/4de97d5dc60451ca882566e300745bfc?OpenView > > Looks like they basically distinguish between NT and Linux as development > platforms. This itches.. > > Don't know how to judge this, and I am not the only one > > http://web.chad.org/dev/riva-tnt/faq.html > > according to the RIVA enlightenment project > > http://web.chad.org/dev/riva-tnt > > > 2. I'm busy updating the riva-glx port to work with XFree86 3.3.4 > Please let them don't release 3.3.5 on monday.. :) I don't know if it will be monday but it will be very soon. Some fixes missed the deadline for 3.3.4.. > > > 3. Last question: > We FreeBSD folks should try to get more visible. > Do we have anyone on the XFree86 team? I'm a member of the XFree86 project, mainly to see that 4.0 supports FreeBSD/alpha properly but I obviously have a strong interest in the 3D side of things too. -- Doug Rabson Mail: dfr@nlsystems.com Nonlinear Systems Ltd. Phone: +44 181 442 9037 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Sat Jul 24 4:38:10 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org Received: from mail2.netcologne.de (mail2.netcologne.de [194.8.194.103]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 373151502B for ; Sat, 24 Jul 1999 04:38:05 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from van.woerkom@netcologne.de) Received: from oranje.my.domain (dial12-185.netcologne.de [194.8.196.185]) by mail2.netcologne.de (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA07399; Sat, 24 Jul 1999 13:37:53 +0200 (MET DST) Received: (from marc@localhost) by oranje.my.domain (8.9.3/8.9.3) id NAA00724; Sat, 24 Jul 1999 13:36:19 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from van.woerkom@netcologne.de) Date: Sat, 24 Jul 1999 13:36:19 +0200 (CEST) Message-Id: <199907241136.NAA00724@oranje.my.domain> X-Authentication-Warning: oranje.my.domain: marc set sender to van.woerkom@netcologne.de using -f From: Marc van Woerkom To: dfr@nlsystems.com Cc: van.woerkom@netcologne.de, multimedia@freebsd.org In-reply-to: (message from Doug Rabson on Sat, 24 Jul 1999 08:09:30 +0100 (BST)) Subject: Re: RIVA update: specs & more Reply-To: van.woerkom@netcologne.de References: Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > I don't know if it will be monday but it will be very soon. Some fixes > missed the deadline for 3.3.4.. The sheer size of XFree86 and Mesa slows down testing, certainly not only on my side. > I'm a member of the XFree86 project, mainly to see that 4.0 supports > FreeBSD/alpha properly That is very good to hear. So we have at least one person who is aware of what is going on there. (And it spares me a second try to join, what after me letting off some steam on Slashdot last week might be not a good idea right now) It should be possible now to collect a useful OpenGL environment for FreeBSD. The results should materialize as ports somewhere in the ports collection. Sources are XFree86, the g200-dev list (GLX), the nvidia site, Mesa (GL, GLUT) and some other places I have not identified yet (GLTT, GLUI, benchmarks, demos). I subscribed to g200-dev, and will have a look at the Mesa development. >but I obviously have a strong interest in the 3D side of things too. The availability of accelerated 3d is beautiful. It is not only fun to have (games etc.) but useful for serious work too. E.g. I wish I had it at the time when I wrote up my physics diploma (solidification sims). Today I still might not be able to work with large geometries of 50k-200k of finite elements on my home box, but it would be good enough to evaluate test cases. Regards, Marc To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Sat Jul 24 12:10:57 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org Received: from trinity.radio-do.de (trinity.Radio-do.de [193.101.164.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A66A315226 for ; Sat, 24 Jul 1999 12:10:43 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from fn@trinity.radio-do.de) Received: (from fn@localhost) by trinity.radio-do.de (8.9.3/8.9.3) id UAA00952; Sat, 24 Jul 1999 20:59:33 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from fn) Date: Sat, 24 Jul 1999 20:59:33 +0200 (CEST) From: Frank Nobis Message-Id: <199907241859.UAA00952@trinity.radio-do.de> To: freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.org Subject: Did someone allready implement a remote based on the Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org wintv card From: Frank Nobis Date: 24 Jul 1999 20:59:32 +0200 Message-ID: Lines: 23 User-Agent: Gnus/5.070095 (Pterodactyl Gnus v0.95) XEmacs/21.1 (20 Minutes to Nikko) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Hi all, the newer hauppauge cards have a IR remote based on an i2c device located at 0x30. I tried the ioctl with REMOTE_GETKEY to read from the device, but all I got was [0 0 195] as data in case of no key pressed and [0 0 67] when some key is pressed. What I don't understand right now is how to actually determine the key that is pressed. Has someone more infos about the chip in use ? A pointer to documentation or some piece of code ? Regards, Frank -- Frank Nobis Email: PGP AVAILABLE Landgrafenstr. 130 dg3dcn http://www.radio-do.de/~fn/ 44139 Dortmund Powered by SMP FreeBSD To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Sat Jul 24 22:50:29 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org Received: from acacia.cts.ucla.edu (acacia.cts.ucla.edu [164.67.62.44]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 80BFD14D41; Sat, 24 Jul 1999 22:50:27 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from denis@acacia.cts.ucla.edu) Received: from localhost (denis@localhost) by acacia.cts.ucla.edu (8.9.3/8.8.8) with ESMTP id WAA05363; Sat, 24 Jul 1999 22:52:13 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from denis@acacia.cts.ucla.edu) Date: Sat, 24 Jul 1999 22:52:13 -0700 (PDT) From: Denis DeLaRoca To: questions@freebsd.org, multimedia@freebsd.org Subject: Building/Running FreeAMP 1.2.3 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Has anyone succeeded in building/running FreeAmp 1.2.3 for FreeBSD 3.x or alternatively run the linux binary under Linux emulation? -- Denis To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message