From owner-freebsd-multimedia Sun Sep 5 1:50:41 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org Received: from herring.nlsystems.com (nlsys.demon.co.uk [158.152.125.33]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8D3B514CEF for ; Sun, 5 Sep 1999 01:50:33 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dfr@nlsystems.com) Received: from salmon.nlsystems.com (salmon.nlsystems.com [10.0.0.3]) by herring.nlsystems.com (8.9.3/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA00925; Sun, 5 Sep 1999 09:52:02 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from dfr@nlsystems.com) Date: Sun, 5 Sep 1999 09:52:02 +0100 (BST) From: Doug Rabson To: Marc van Woerkom Cc: hasty@rah.star-gate.com, multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: New 3D software available In-Reply-To: <199909050121.DAA13411@oranje.my.domain> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Sun, 5 Sep 1999, Marc van Woerkom wrote: > > Say how is the performance of hardware acceleration vs. software rendering? > > A quick test with a second xserver in 32 bpp mode (the glx driver accelerates > only for 15 and 16 bpp modes and I was too lazy to save my existing X sessions) > using > > startx -- :1 -bpp 32 > > ran the teapot demo at least 6 times slower. Quite a difference. > (and this with Mesa 3.0, unoptimized RIVA drivers and present non-DRI glx) > > > Some general remarks: > > All QDraw demos except 'varray' (nothing seems to happen) run fine, alas > they don't resize if I maximize the window. > Maybe they don't get the event. varray is just a test of vertex allocation - it doesn't produce anything visual. The resize events for X are somewhat broken at the moment but should be fixed in the next alpha. > > I like the triangle demo most, due to the lighting effects. That was the first QDraw program :-). It has changed a bit since then and now sports vertex colors and a specular texture map. > > One has to have a look at the sources to understand what keys are used. True. There are some notes in the README. We will probable put a README in each sample directory. > > That example source is pleasing to the eye as well, it seems to be a nice > C++ API indeed. I think so :-) > > > As my NT box at work has been UNIX-ified with Cygwin long ago, and a > Matrox G200 is present, I will definitly give it a try under NT as well. On NT4, the OpenGL driver works quite well although I'm not sure of the quality of the G200 GL drivers. The best platform is probable win2k RC1 with the DX driver. > > > The crazy idea that haunted me was to abuse QDraw for getting DirectX stuff > working under X11. A DirectX to QDraw bridge might be easier to realize than > a DirectX to OpenGL one. That would be funny. Its not quite possible at the moment as we don't support all the rendering states (depth buffer enable etc) at the api level. This will be improved shortly as we flesh out the Shader api. > But it seems that the Wine folks already do some DirectX to Mesa mapping: > > http://www.winehq.com/source/graphics/ > > > It seems to run a lot of games already, according to this link: > > http://www.linuxgames.com/wine/ Interesting. What do they support as a rendering backend? Glide only or Mesa too? -- Doug Rabson Mail: dfr@nlsystems.com Nonlinear Systems Ltd. Phone: +44 181 442 9037 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Sun Sep 5 2: 4:54 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org Received: from herring.nlsystems.com (nlsys.demon.co.uk [158.152.125.33]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1978B14EB6 for ; Sun, 5 Sep 1999 02:04:49 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dfr@nlsystems.com) Received: from salmon.nlsystems.com (salmon.nlsystems.com [10.0.0.3]) by herring.nlsystems.com (8.9.3/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA05158; Sun, 5 Sep 1999 10:06:50 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from dfr@nlsystems.com) Date: Sun, 5 Sep 1999 10:06:50 +0100 (BST) From: Doug Rabson To: Ben Speirs Cc: multimedia Subject: Re: New 3D software available In-Reply-To: <37D1CCC1.C61BAD16@ix.netcom.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Sat, 4 Sep 1999, Ben Speirs wrote: > Now when I try the make I get this. I'll install gcc-2.95 and try to figure out what the problem is. > > Am I getting any closer or am I just wandering aimlessly in the woods? At > this point my non-programmer brain is feeling a bit overheated. I'm off to > throw a couple pints of beer on it. I will be back! You are certainly getting closer. For some reason egcs finds these templates quite difficult to handle. The new version of egcs must have different problems than the old one - I just need to figure out the right incantation for version 2.95 > > Oh, FWIW I'm using a 3.2 stable system, Sept/1/99 build. That should be fine once we sort out the compiler issues. > > Thanks for the help. Thanks for the feedback! -- Doug Rabson Mail: dfr@nlsystems.com Nonlinear Systems Ltd. Phone: +44 181 442 9037 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Sun Sep 5 12: 9:50 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org Received: from mail2.netcologne.de (mail2.netcologne.de [194.8.194.103]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 23CD314F56 for ; Sun, 5 Sep 1999 12:09:47 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from van.woerkom@netcologne.de) Received: from oranje.my.domain (dial2-25.netcologne.de [194.8.195.25]) by mail2.netcologne.de (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id VAA07023; Sun, 5 Sep 1999 21:09:38 +0200 (MET DST) Received: (from marc@localhost) by oranje.my.domain (8.9.3/8.9.3) id VAA01001; Sun, 5 Sep 1999 21:07:26 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from van.woerkom@netcologne.de) Date: Sun, 5 Sep 1999 21:07:26 +0200 (CEST) Message-Id: <199909051907.VAA01001@oranje.my.domain> X-Authentication-Warning: oranje.my.domain: marc set sender to van.woerkom@netcologne.de using -f From: Marc van Woerkom To: dfr@nlsystems.com Cc: van.woerkom@netcologne.de, hasty@rah.star-gate.com, multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG In-reply-to: (message from Doug Rabson on Sun, 5 Sep 1999 09:52:02 +0100 (BST)) Subject: Re: New 3D software available Reply-To: van.woerkom@netcologne.de References: Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > That was the first QDraw program :-). It has changed a bit since then and > now sports vertex colors and a specular texture map. The illumination reminds me quite a bit of a foil hologramm that I own. Hey, has anyone ever tried to simulate the 3d appearance of a holo? :) Or a rotating CD under a light source, with its rainbow (diffraction) pattern. > True. There are some notes in the README. We will probable put a README in > each sample directory. Who reads READMEs? :) I would suggest adding a -h/-?/--help option. > > But it seems that the Wine folks already do some DirectX to Mesa mapping: > > > > http://www.winehq.com/source/graphics/ > > Interesting. What do they support as a rendering backend? Glide only or > Mesa too? From what I see here http://www.winehq.com/source/graphics/d3ddevices.c more specific 1 /* Direct3D Device 2 (c) 1998 Lionel ULMER 3 4 This files contains all the D3D devices that Wine supports. For the moment 5 only the 'OpenGL' target is supported. */ 6 7 #include 8 #include "config.h" 9 #include "windef.h" 10 #include "winerror.h" 11 #include "wine/obj_base.h" 12 #include "heap.h" 13 #include "ddraw.h" 14 #include "d3d.h" 15 #include "debugtools.h" 16 17 #include "d3d_private.h" 18 19 DEFAULT_DEBUG_CHANNEL(ddraw) 20 21 /* Define this variable if you have an unpatched Mesa 3.0 (patches are available 22 on Mesa's home page) or version 3.1b. 23 24 Version 3.1b2 should correct this bug */ 25 #undef HAVE_BUGGY_MESAGL 26 27 #ifdef HAVE_MESAGL I would say these madmen are clearly working on a DirectX emulation with Mesa backend. This is one of the unexpected benefits of accelerated 3d available. Because there is more in the world than quake3. It could be possible that some of the old games I bought over two years ago (when I had time :), will make a great demo now. Something like Jedi Knight (original requirement: P5-90) is a thing I want to test under Wine with glx/Mesa. From a quick glance, sound could be a problem, they use OSS and I am not sure about its present status for -CURRENT. Regards, Marc To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Mon Sep 6 19:41:56 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org Received: from pluto.ipass.net (pluto.ipass.net [198.79.53.5]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5A63015425 for ; Mon, 6 Sep 1999 19:41:51 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from rhh@ipass.net) Received: from stealth.ipass.net. (ppp-1-155.dialup.rdu.ipass.net [209.170.132.155]) by pluto.ipass.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id WAA00307 for ; Mon, 6 Sep 1999 22:41:06 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from rhh@localhost) by stealth.ipass.net. (8.9.3/8.8.8) id WAA00982 for multimedia@freebsd.org; Mon, 6 Sep 1999 22:42:04 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from rhh) Date: Mon, 6 Sep 1999 22:42:04 -0400 From: Randall Hopper To: multimedia@freebsd.org Subject: Fxtv 1.00 - up for grabs Message-ID: <19990906224204.A718@ipass.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.1i Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org URL: http://www.freebsd.org/~rhh/fxtv It's high time to bite the bullet and dub this the dreaded 1.00 version. Please beat on this one quick so we can get any patches (if needed) in before Thursday's 3.3-RELEASE freeze! Change highlights are on the web page with details in the ChangeLog. Thanks to everyone who contributed fixes, enhancements, and problem reports that fed into this version! MPEG Capture and Encoding ------------------------- MPEG fans will want to know MPEG capture and encoding works much better now. Arbitrary capture rates can be specified, and fxtv internally converts to rates that mpeg_encode will handle. So no more "unsupported frame rate" errors. Also MPEG encoding is now clocked so the audio and video stay synchronized, regardless of the capture frame rate. As proof of concept I chose a cool TV intro which depends on strict synchronization. See the results for yourself: http://www.freebsd.org/~rhh/fxtv/SpecialOpsForce.mpg Use MpegTV (www.mpegtv.com) or your favorite MPEG player. Note that I captured this clip at 24fps, 21fps, and 15fps, and all audio/video streams played in lockstep for each. XFree86 3.9.16 -------------- If you'd like Fxtv's full-screen and direct video functions to continue to work (courtesy of XFree86's VidMode and DGA extensions, respectively) I encourage you to try out the XFree86 4.0 pre-release versions and publish your results. Feedback to the XFree86 group will help ensure these features continue to work for everyone's cards when 4.0 is cut. HOWEVER, SYNC YOUR DISKS FIRST! (su root -c sync) .On my video card, a VidMode switch down to 640x480 toasts my video cards clocks and locks the machine. And the DGA extension returns the wrong address for the address of the linear frame buffer! Who knows what it was stomping on down there. (BTW, hard-coding the "right" address gets it working.) Besides that, fxtv seems to work fine here on 3.9.16. Other Enhancements and Fixes ---------------------------- Please see the ChangeLog for details. Thanks all! http://www.ipass.net/~dbhopper/aa8vb/fxtv/ChangeLog As always, have fun with it and let me know if you stumble on any problems. Randall To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Mon Sep 6 20:23:31 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org Received: from pluto.ipass.net (pluto.ipass.net [198.79.53.5]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 67C991557D for ; Mon, 6 Sep 1999 20:23:27 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from rhh@ipass.net) Received: from stealth.ipass.net. (ppp-1-92.dialup.rdu.ipass.net [209.170.132.92]) by pluto.ipass.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id XAA06431; Mon, 6 Sep 1999 23:22:01 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from rhh@localhost) by stealth.ipass.net. (8.9.3/8.8.8) id XAA00955; Mon, 6 Sep 1999 23:22:48 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from rhh) Date: Mon, 6 Sep 1999 23:22:48 -0400 From: Randall Hopper To: "Jordan K. Hubbard" Cc: Roger Hardiman , multimedia@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Fxtv 1.00 - up for grabs Message-ID: <19990906232248.A815@ipass.net> References: <19990906224204.A718@ipass.net> <76451.936672928@localhost> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="W/nzBZO5zC0uMSeA" X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.1i In-Reply-To: <76451.936672928@localhost>; from Jordan K. Hubbard on Mon, Sep 06, 1999 at 07:55:28PM -0700 Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org --W/nzBZO5zC0uMSeA Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Jordan K. Hubbard: |Hmmm, doesn't build for me on 3.2-stable | |tvcapture.c: In function `TVCAPTUREGetTunerFreqSetName': |tvcapture.c:689: `CHNLSET_AUSTRALIA' undeclared (first use this function) |tvcapture.c:689: (Each undeclared identifier is reported only once |tvcapture.c:689: for each function it appears in.) |gmake: *** [tvcapture.o] Error 1 | |Any ideas? Hmmm. AUSTRALIA is in Roger's 7/2/99 driver release (not even his latest). I assumed -stable wouldn't be 2 months behind his latest, and I guess I shouldn't have. With -stable's kernel frozen, sounds like a patch to -stable's port is the best route (attached). Roger, could you add this in when you check in the port? Thanks, Randall --W/nzBZO5zC0uMSeA Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="fxtv-1.00-no-australia.patch" --- tt/tvcapture.c Mon Sep 6 23:18:54 1999 +++ tvcapture.c Mon Sep 6 23:19:02 1999 @@ -686,8 +686,6 @@ return "jpncable"; case CHNLSET_XUSSR: return "xussr"; - case CHNLSET_AUSTRALIA: - return "australia"; default: return NULL; } --W/nzBZO5zC0uMSeA-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Tue Sep 7 3: 0:21 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org Received: from pluto.ipass.net (pluto.ipass.net [198.79.53.5]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2C98C1559E for ; Tue, 7 Sep 1999 03:00:16 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from rhh@ipass.net) Received: from stealth.ipass.net. (ppp-1-92.dialup.rdu.ipass.net [209.170.132.92]) by pluto.ipass.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id FAA08237; Tue, 7 Sep 1999 05:59:50 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from rhh@localhost) by stealth.ipass.net. (8.9.3/8.8.8) id GAA09151; Tue, 7 Sep 1999 06:00:35 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from rhh) Date: Tue, 7 Sep 1999 06:00:34 -0400 From: Randall Hopper To: thomas@hentschel.net Cc: multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Fxtv 1.00 - up for grabs Message-ID: <19990907060034.A8985@ipass.net> References: <19990906232248.A815@ipass.net> <199909070341.UAA24237@gate.hentschel.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.1i In-Reply-To: <199909070341.UAA24237@gate.hentschel.net>; from thomas@hentschel.net on Mon, Sep 06, 1999 at 08:46:38PM -0700 Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org thomas@hentschel.net: |On 6 Sep, Randall Hopper wrote: |> Jordan K. Hubbard: |> |Hmmm, doesn't build for me on 3.2-stable |[snip] | |> With -stable's kernel frozen, sounds like a patch to -stable's port is the |> best route (attached). Roger, could you add this in when you check in the |> port? |> |> Thanks, |> |> Randall |> | |Builds and runs great here, thanks a lot Randall. Even 2.2.8 is |possible (with a bit more work). Great. What kinds of things did you need to do? Send me patches and I'll post a 2.2.8 port on the web page. |Just one question : When one tests for the optimum frame rate, what does |it need a file name for ?? :) Well, not all disks are created equal, so when you optimize it records to the same area that it will be recording when you hit "Record". By default, this is some file derived from the filename base you enter. However, if you enter one or more videoCapFile's to override where it captures (I always do; allows interleaving writes to multiple disks), for example: ! Video capt temp files (optional - up to 4) - one on each disk for ! best performance Fxtv.videoCapFile1: /data/00-CAPTURE/fxtv.cap Fxtv.videoCapFile2: /32_share/00-CAPTURE/fxtv.cap !Fxtv.videoCapFile3: /share_bak/00-CAPTURE/fxtv.cap then it doesn't really capture to a filename derived from your GUI filename base. It uses these videoCapFiles and then just encodes to files with the GUI filename base. So while in the latter case it might not need a user-entered filename from the GUI, I thought it made sense to be consistent for both cases. How's MPEG encoding working for you? Randall To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Tue Sep 7 10:18:41 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org Received: from msxsmtp1.novellus.com (msxsmtp1.Novellus.Com [198.211.186.81]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E9C6914CB7 for ; Tue, 7 Sep 1999 10:18:33 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from Thomas.Hentschel@NOVELLUS.com) Received: by msxsmtp1.novellus.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) id ; Tue, 7 Sep 1999 10:17:20 -0700 Message-ID: From: "Hentschel, Thomas" To: "'aa8vb@ipass.net'" Cc: "'multimedia@freebsd.org'" Subject: RE: Re: Fxtv 1.00 - up for grabs Date: Tue, 7 Sep 1999 10:19:37 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org |Builds and runs great here, thanks a lot Randall. Even 2.2.8 is |possible (with a bit more work). Great. What kinds of things did you need to do? Send me patches and I'll post a 2.2.8 port on the web page. Will do that tonight ! (I'm at work right now ) |Just one question : When one tests for the optimum frame rate, what does |it need a file name for ?? :) Well, not all disks are created equal, so when you optimize it records to the same area that it will be recording when you hit "Record". By default, this is some file derived from the filename base you enter. However, if you enter one or more videoCapFile's to override where it captures (I always do; allows interleaving writes to multiple disks), for example: ! Video capt temp files (optional - up to 4) - one on each disk for ! best performance Fxtv.videoCapFile1: /data/00-CAPTURE/fxtv.cap Fxtv.videoCapFile2: /32_share/00-CAPTURE/fxtv.cap !Fxtv.videoCapFile3: /share_bak/00-CAPTURE/fxtv.cap then it doesn't really capture to a filename derived from your GUI filename base. It uses these videoCapFiles and then just encodes to files with the GUI filename base. So while in the latter case it might not need a user-entered filename from the GUI, I thought it made sense to be consistent for both cases. Ok, thanks for that. Makes sense now. How's MPEG encoding working for you? I only was able to test the conversion on the 2.2.8 box, and there it didn't work. It told me it couldn't write the conversion script. I will look into it a bit more tonight. -Th To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Tue Sep 7 11:47:47 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org Received: from uni4nn.gn.iaf.nl (osmium.gn.iaf.nl [193.67.144.12]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A56FA155D2 for ; Tue, 7 Sep 1999 11:47:38 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from wilko@yedi.iaf.nl) Received: from yedi.iaf.nl (uucp@localhost) by uni4nn.gn.iaf.nl (8.9.2/8.9.2) with UUCP id UAA00210; Tue, 7 Sep 1999 20:36:20 +0200 (MET DST) Received: (from wilko@localhost) by yedi.iaf.nl (8.9.3/8.9.3) id UAA01935; Tue, 7 Sep 1999 20:30:15 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wilko) From: Wilko Bulte Message-Id: <199909071830.UAA01935@yedi.iaf.nl> Subject: Re: Fxtv 1.00 - up for grabs In-Reply-To: <19990906232248.A815@ipass.net> from Randall Hopper at "Sep 6, 1999 11:22:48 pm" To: aa8vb@ipass.net (Randall Hopper) Date: Tue, 7 Sep 1999 20:30:15 +0200 (CEST) Cc: jkh@zippy.cdrom.com, roger@cs.strath.ac.uk, multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG X-Organisation: Private FreeBSD site - Arnhem, The Netherlands X-pgp-info: PGP public key at 'finger wilko@freefall.freebsd.org' X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org As Randall Hopper wrote ... > Jordan K. Hubbard: > |Hmmm, doesn't build for me on 3.2-stable > | > |tvcapture.c: In function `TVCAPTUREGetTunerFreqSetName': > |tvcapture.c:689: `CHNLSET_AUSTRALIA' undeclared (first use this function) > |tvcapture.c:689: (Each undeclared identifier is reported only once > |tvcapture.c:689: for each function it appears in.) > |gmake: *** [tvcapture.o] Error 1 > | > |Any ideas? > > Hmmm. AUSTRALIA is in Roger's 7/2/99 driver release (not even his latest). > I assumed -stable wouldn't be 2 months behind his latest, and I guess I > shouldn't have. > > With -stable's kernel frozen, sounds like a patch to -stable's port is the > best route (attached). Roger, could you add this in when you check in the > port? Patch solves the build failure on my 3.2-STABLE (eh, now 3.3-RC ). But I have another very annoying problem: the picture is for 80% shifted outside the window (to the left). As this is a Matrox Millenium II (PCI) 8Mb display I think it is a known issue. But isn't there any 'instant fix' or maybe an autodetect of which display is used possible? Fxtv 0.48 had a patch available to fix this, which worked fine for me. ... Width: 1280 Height: 1024 Depth: 24 Visual Class: TrueColor ... x11perf - X11 performance program, version 1.5 The XFree86 Project, Inc server version 334 on :0.0 ... Thanks, Wilko -- | / o / / _ Arnhem, The Netherlands - Powered by FreeBSD - |/|/ / / /( (_) Bulte WWW : http://www.tcja.nl http://www.freebsd.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Tue Sep 7 16: 5:27 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org Received: from scrabble.freeuk.net (scrabble.freeuk.net [212.126.144.6]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 61B4214D8F for ; Tue, 7 Sep 1999 16:05:23 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from andrew@cream.org) Received: from [212.126.149.74] (helo=cream.org) by scrabble.freeuk.net with esmtp (Exim 2.11 #1) id 11OUGU-0004iM-00; Tue, 7 Sep 1999 23:03:02 +0000 Content-Length: 2690 Message-ID: X-Mailer: XFMail 1.3 [p0] on FreeBSD X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Tue, 07 Sep 1999 23:58:31 +0100 (BST) From: Andrew Boothman To: freebsd-users@freebsd-uk.eu.org, multimedia@freebsd.org Subject: Soundcard (sscape) Detection Problems Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi! I'm running 3.1-Release and i'm trying to get the sscape and sscape_mss drivers configured and working with my Ensioniq Soundscape. But I'm continually getting sscape0 not found at 0x330 sscape_mss0 not found at 0x534 (or similar) at bootup. I'm not sure what values I should enter in my kernel config file in order to get my card properly detected. How do I go about finding these? Further, when compiling my kernel I get warnings like : cc -c -O -Wreturn-type -Wcomment -Wredundant-decls -Wimplicit -Wnested-externs -Wstrict-prototypes -Wmissing-prototypes -Wpointer-arith -Winline -Wuninitialized -Wformat -Wunused -fformat-extensions -ansi -nostdinc -I- -I. -I../.. -I../../../include -DKERNEL -DVM_STACK -include opt_global.h -elf ../../i386/isa/sound/dev_table.c ../../i386/isa/sound/dev_table.c:247: warning: `sndtable_identify_card' defined but not used ../../i386/isa/sound/dev_table.c:267: warning: `sound_chconf' defined but not used And cc -c -O -Wreturn-type -Wcomment -Wredundant-decls -Wimplicit -Wnested-externs -Wstrict-prototypes -Wmissing-prototypes -Wpointer-arith -Winline -Wuninitialized -Wformat -Wunused -fformat-extensions -ansi -nostdinc -I- -I. -I../.. -I../../../include -DKERNEL -DVM_STACK -include opt_global.h -elf ../../i386/isa/sound/sscape.c ../../i386/isa/sound/sscape.c: In function `sscapeintr': ../../i386/isa/sound/sscape.c:294: warning: `bits' might be used uninitialized in this function ../../i386/isa/sound/sscape.c: At top level: ../../i386/isa/sound/sscape.c:597: warning: `sscape_audio_open' defined but not used ../../i386/isa/sound/sscape.c:626: warning: `sscape_audio_close' defined but not used ../../i386/isa/sound/sscape.c:659: warning: `sscape_audio_ioctl' defined but not used ../../i386/isa/sound/sscape.c:705: warning: `sscape_audio_output_block' defined but not used ../../i386/isa/sound/sscape.c:710: warning: `sscape_audio_start_input' defined but not used ../../i386/isa/sound/sscape.c:715: warning: `sscape_audio_prepare_for_input' defined but not used ../../i386/isa/sound/sscape.c:721: warning: `sscape_audio_prepare_for_output' defined but not used ../../i386/isa/sound/sscape.c:732: warning: `sscape_audio_reset' defined but not used I added controller ppp0 controller snd0 at the top of my kernel config file and device sscape0 at isa? port 0x330 irq 9 drq 0 device sscape_mss0 at isa? port 0x534 irq 5 drq 1 at the end. Are these warnings normal? If so, please give me some guidance over how to proceed with configuring my kernel. Many thanks in advance! --- Andrew Boothman http://sour.cream.org Unmetered Telecoms. Join the Fight! http://www.unmetered.org.uk To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Tue Sep 7 17: 8:17 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org Received: from pluto.ipass.net (pluto.ipass.net [198.79.53.5]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3B06914D46 for ; Tue, 7 Sep 1999 17:08:14 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from rhh@ipass.net) Received: from stealth.ipass.net. (ppp-4-199.dialup.rdu.ipass.net [209.170.134.199]) by pluto.ipass.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id UAA01938; Tue, 7 Sep 1999 20:05:43 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from rhh@localhost) by stealth.ipass.net. (8.9.3/8.8.8) id UAA27407; Tue, 7 Sep 1999 20:06:41 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from rhh) Date: Tue, 7 Sep 1999 20:06:41 -0400 From: Randall Hopper To: Wilko Bulte Cc: multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Fxtv 1.00 - up for grabs Message-ID: <19990907200641.A27105@ipass.net> References: <19990906232248.A815@ipass.net> <199909071830.UAA01935@yedi.iaf.nl> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.1i In-Reply-To: <199909071830.UAA01935@yedi.iaf.nl>; from Wilko Bulte on Tue, Sep 07, 1999 at 08:30:15PM +0200 Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Wilko Bulte: |Patch solves the build failure on my 3.2-STABLE (eh, now 3.3-RC ). | |But I have another very annoying problem: the picture is for 80% shifted |outside the window (to the left). As this is a Matrox Millenium II (PCI) |8Mb display I think it is a known issue. But isn't there any 'instant fix' |or maybe an autodetect of which display is used possible? | |Fxtv 0.48 had a patch available to fix this, which worked fine for me. The same patch will probably apply cleanly to 1.00. If not, just hand-hack the one line. As to autodetect, Fxtv can't cleanly determine which card you have anyway (AFAIK). And even if it could, I don't want to write in card-specific hacks to the application. I think the better route is (would have been) for everyone with a Millenium II which uses Direct Video (DGA) to file a bug with XFree86. It's possible that not enough folks have filed for this to bubble up on their to-fix list. I say "would have been" because the 4.0 prereleases have significant changes in this area and the rules change for everyone. For example, DGA works fine for me on 3.3.3.1, but 3.9.16's DGA doesn't return an address "even close" to the linear frame buffer (ouch!). When I get a few minutes, I'll whip up a DGA test program for TV users to run to test out DGA for their cards, so we can help the XFree86 folks get the DGA (and VidMode) extensions squared away (via problem reports) before 4.0 hits. Randall To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Tue Sep 7 17:14:16 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org Received: from rah.star-gate.com (216-200-29-190.snj0.flashcom.net [216.200.29.194]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EDD8614D99 for ; Tue, 7 Sep 1999 17:14:13 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from hasty@rah.star-gate.com) Received: from rah.star-gate.com (localhost.star-gate.com [127.0.0.1]) by rah.star-gate.com (8.9.3/8.8.8) with ESMTP id RAA13534; Tue, 7 Sep 1999 17:09:13 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from hasty@rah.star-gate.com) Message-Id: <199909080009.RAA13534@rah.star-gate.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.2 2/24/98 To: Randall Hopper Cc: Wilko Bulte , multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Fxtv 1.00 - up for grabs In-reply-to: Your message of "Tue, 07 Sep 1999 20:06:41 EDT." <19990907200641.A27105@ipass.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Tue, 07 Sep 1999 17:09:13 -0700 From: Amancio Hasty Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Curious, my fxtv seems to work okay with XFree86 4.0 and I think it is using DGA . My card is a Riva TNT2 AGP port if that matters. Cheers -- Amancio Hasty hasty@rah.star-gate.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Tue Sep 7 17:21:54 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org Received: from pluto.ipass.net (pluto.ipass.net [198.79.53.5]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 415A914E00 for ; Tue, 7 Sep 1999 17:21:46 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from rhh@ipass.net) Received: from stealth.ipass.net. (ppp-4-199.dialup.rdu.ipass.net [209.170.134.199]) by pluto.ipass.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id UAA05103; Tue, 7 Sep 1999 20:21:32 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from rhh@localhost) by stealth.ipass.net. (8.9.3/8.8.8) id UAA27902; Tue, 7 Sep 1999 20:22:31 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from rhh) Date: Tue, 7 Sep 1999 20:22:31 -0400 From: Randall Hopper To: Amancio Hasty Cc: Wilko Bulte , multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Fxtv 1.00 - up for grabs Message-ID: <19990907202231.C27511@ipass.net> References: <19990907200641.A27105@ipass.net> <199909080009.RAA13534@rah.star-gate.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.1i In-Reply-To: <199909080009.RAA13534@rah.star-gate.com>; from Amancio Hasty on Tue, Sep 07, 1999 at 05:09:13PM -0700 Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Amancio Hasty: | |Curious, my fxtv seems to work okay with XFree86 4.0 and I think it is |using DGA . | |My card is a Riva TNT2 AGP port if that matters. Sure you don't just have a "really" fast machine? ;-) Just pulling your leg. You probably know. But seriously, if you pull down the "File" menu or pass an xterm over the top of the Fxtv window, does the video stop and then restart? Yes=Direct Video No=nope Do you notice a difference when running -disableDirectV? Just curious. Anyway, let me know. I'd like to start compiling a list of what cards are and aren't working for folks with DGA and VidMode with the pre-releases. ...Speaking of which, how does (or "does") full-screen zoom (i.e. VidMode switch) work for you with the prerelease? And for the database, is this 3.9.15 or 3.9.16? Thanks, Randall To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Tue Sep 7 17:52:10 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org Received: from rah.star-gate.com (216-200-29-190.snj0.flashcom.net [216.200.29.194]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DC3B115403 for ; Tue, 7 Sep 1999 17:52:02 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from hasty@rah.star-gate.com) Received: from rah.star-gate.com (localhost.star-gate.com [127.0.0.1]) by rah.star-gate.com (8.9.3/8.8.8) with ESMTP id RAA13814; Tue, 7 Sep 1999 17:48:03 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from hasty@rah.star-gate.com) Message-Id: <199909080048.RAA13814@rah.star-gate.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.2 2/24/98 To: Randall Hopper Cc: Wilko Bulte , multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Fxtv 1.00 - up for grabs In-reply-to: Your message of "Tue, 07 Sep 1999 20:22:31 EDT." <19990907202231.C27511@ipass.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Tue, 07 Sep 1999 17:48:03 -0700 From: Amancio Hasty Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Well, I do hava a very fast machine and DGA in XFree86 is working over here. Enjoy Segments of my XF86Config: Section "Module" load "glx" load "extmod" EndSection Section "Device" Identifier "tnt2" Driver "nv" BusID "PCI:1:0:0" Option "PCI Retry" EndSection At any rate, here is some info for you: Fxtv v1.00 DETECTED CAPTURE CARD(S) [DRIVER PROBES]: bktr0: irq 11 at device 15.0 on pci0 iicbb0: on bti2c0 bktr0: Hauppauge Model 56111 C Hauppauge WinCast/TV, Philips NTSC tuner, dbx stereo. SYSCTL MIB VALUES: kern.version: FreeBSD 4.0-CURRENT #1: Tue Sep 7 12:26:11 PDT 1999 root@muadib.star-gate.com:/usr/src/sys/compile/GENERIC hw.bt848.card: -1 hw.bt848.tuner: -1 hw.bt848.reverse_mute: -1 hw.bt848.format: -1 TUNER SIGNATURE (0x01 - 0xff): 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 01 08 0a 00 00 00 TUNER I2C DEVICES FOUND AT: 0xa0, 0xb6, 0xc2, 0xc6 CAPTURE CARD EEPROM CONTENTS: Read 256 EEPROM bytes (0x00 - 0xff) 84 12 00 00 05 40 09 01 08 05 01 2f db 00 00 8c 0a 00 00 00 00 84 0a 00 01 01 20 77 00 40 e1 18 03 00 77 02 01 03 03 43 15 14 79 a5 00 00 00 00 ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff 84 12 00 00 05 40 09 01 08 05 01 2f db 00 00 8c 0a 00 00 00 00 84 0a 00 01 01 20 77 00 40 e1 18 03 00 77 02 01 03 03 43 15 14 79 a5 00 00 00 00 ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff SUPPORTED FREQUENCY SETS: 1 nabcst 2 cableirc 3 cablehrc 4 weurope 5 jpnbcst 6 jpncable 7 xussr 8 australia Supported RGB Capture Pixel Formats: bpp Bpp RGB Masks Swap --- --- ---------------------------- ---- 15 2 00007c00, 000003e0, 0000001f NB 16 2 0000f800, 000007e0, 0000001f NB 24 3 00ff0000, 0000ff00, 000000ff B 24 4 00ff0000, 0000ff00, 000000ff NBWb Supported YUV Capture Pixel Formats: YUVSize HSamp VSamp Pack CompOrder T->B L->R YTrans ------- ----- ----- ------ --------- ---- ---- ------ 8,8,8 1,2,2 1,1,1 PLANAR YUV Y Y N 8,8,8 1,2,2 1,1,1 PACKED YUYV Y Y N 8,8,8 1,2,2 1,2,2 PLANAR YUV Y Y N XSERVER: 'The XFree86 Project, Inc' v3916, Protocol Verson 11.0 Screen Res = 1280x1024, DefDepth = 16; NumScreens = 1 Bitmap Unit/BitOrder/Pad = 32/LSBFirst/32, Image ByteOrder = LSBFirst XF86DGAQueryVersion() succeeded - vers = 2.00 BaseAddr = 0xe6000000, Pitch = 1280, BankSize/RamSize = 33554432/33554432 Rating Available Visuals: Rating Class bpp Bpp R,G,B Masks Swap DirectVid ------ ----------- --- --- ---------------------------- ---- --------- 5 TrueColor 16 2,2 0000f800, 000007e0, 0000001f -- Yes 4 TrueColor 16 2,2 0000f800, 000007e0, 0000001f -- No 4 TrueColor 16 2,2 0000f800, 000007e0, 0000001f -- No 4 TrueColor 16 2,2 0000f800, 000007e0, 0000001f -- No 4 TrueColor 16 2,2 0000f800, 000007e0, 0000001f -- No 4 TrueColor 16 2,2 0000f800, 000007e0, 0000001f -- No 4 TrueColor 16 2,2 0000f800, 000007e0, 0000001f -- No 0 DirectColor 16 2,2 0000f800, 000007e0, 0000001f -- No 0 DirectColor 16 2,2 0000f800, 000007e0, 0000001f -- No 0 DirectColor 16 2,2 0000f800, 000007e0, 0000001f -- No 0 DirectColor 16 2,2 0000f800, 000007e0, 0000001f -- No 0 DirectColor 16 2,2 0000f800, 000007e0, 0000001f -- No 0 DirectColor 16 2,2 0000f800, 000007e0, 0000001f -- No 0 DirectColor 16 2,2 0000f800, 000007e0, 0000001f -- No Default Visual is 16-bpp TrueColor XF86VidModeQueryVersion() succeeded - version = 2.00 -- Amancio Hasty hasty@rah.star-gate.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Wed Sep 8 8:49:45 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org Received: from bilby.prth.tensor.pgs.com (bilby.prth.tensor.pgs.com [157.147.232.237]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B31BA15026; 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Robert Wilensky, University of California ------- =_aaaaaaaaaa0-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Wed Sep 8 10:53: 7 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org Received: from rah.star-gate.com (216-200-29-190.snj0.flashcom.net [216.200.29.194]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6A79414CB3; Wed, 8 Sep 1999 10:52:57 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from hasty@rah.star-gate.com) Received: from rah.star-gate.com (localhost.star-gate.com [127.0.0.1]) by rah.star-gate.com (8.9.3/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA35860; Wed, 8 Sep 1999 10:49:19 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from hasty@rah.star-gate.com) Message-Id: <199909081749.KAA35860@rah.star-gate.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.2 2/24/98 To: Stephen Hocking-Senior Programmer PGS Perth Cc: hackers@FreeBSD.ORG, multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: ANNOUNCE: Linux ABI/SDK standards for OpenGL/Mesa (fwd) In-reply-to: Your message of "Wed, 08 Sep 1999 23:46:54 +0800." <199909081546.XAA18427@ariadne.prth.tensor.pgs.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Wed, 08 Sep 1999 10:49:19 -0700 From: Amancio Hasty Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Nice Idea however wrong operating system. The losers should have done it for FreeBSD instead of linux. -- Amancio Hasty hasty@rah.star-gate.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Wed Sep 8 11:48:27 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org Received: from kiew.egd.igd.fhg.de (kiew.egd.igd.fhg.de [192.102.170.32]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4042014BE7 for ; Wed, 8 Sep 1999 11:48:17 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from runge@rostock.zgdv.de) Received: from rostock.zgdv.de (ppp01.egd.igd.fhg.de [153.96.43.211]) by kiew.egd.igd.fhg.de (Netscape Messaging Server 3.6) with ESMTP id AAA366E for ; Wed, 8 Sep 1999 20:46:24 +0200 Message-ID: <37D6AE6B.C74AAA10@rostock.zgdv.de> Date: Wed, 08 Sep 1999 20:43:55 +0200 From: Thomas Runge X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.6 [en] (X11; U; FreeBSD 3.2-RELEASE i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: ANNOUNCE: Linux ABI/SDK standards for OpenGL/Mesa (fwd) References: <199909081749.KAA35860@rah.star-gate.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Amancio Hasty wrote: > > Nice Idea however wrong operating system. The losers should > have done it for FreeBSD instead of linux. Well, OpenGL is gfx, it belongs to X. This way the XFree guys will be responsible for it and thus all free unices will profit of it. I see no problem with it. -- Tom To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Wed Sep 8 11:56:23 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org Received: from rah.star-gate.com (216-200-29-190.snj0.flashcom.net [216.200.29.194]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6938814CA6 for ; Wed, 8 Sep 1999 11:56:19 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from hasty@rah.star-gate.com) Received: from rah.star-gate.com (localhost.star-gate.com [127.0.0.1]) by rah.star-gate.com (8.9.3/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA36244; Wed, 8 Sep 1999 11:52:09 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from hasty@rah.star-gate.com) Message-Id: <199909081852.LAA36244@rah.star-gate.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.2 2/24/98 To: Thomas Runge Cc: multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: ANNOUNCE: Linux ABI/SDK standards for OpenGL/Mesa (fwd) In-reply-to: Your message of "Wed, 08 Sep 1999 20:43:55 +0200." <37D6AE6B.C74AAA10@rostock.zgdv.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Wed, 08 Sep 1999 11:52:09 -0700 From: Amancio Hasty Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I think that what the group wants is the ability to share binaries and the problem with that in linux is its highly incompatibility of different versions of libc or glibc. > Amancio Hasty wrote: > > > > Nice Idea however wrong operating system. The losers should > > have done it for FreeBSD instead of linux. > > Well, OpenGL is gfx, it belongs to X. This way the XFree guys > will be responsible for it and thus all free unices will profit > of it. > > I see no problem with it. > > -- > Tom > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message -- Amancio Hasty hasty@rah.star-gate.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Wed Sep 8 12:27:10 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org Received: from rah.star-gate.com (216-200-29-190.snj0.flashcom.net [216.200.29.194]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5976615681 for ; Wed, 8 Sep 1999 12:27:07 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from hasty@rah.star-gate.com) Received: from rah.star-gate.com (localhost.star-gate.com [127.0.0.1]) by rah.star-gate.com (8.9.3/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA36495; Wed, 8 Sep 1999 12:21:59 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from hasty@rah.star-gate.com) Message-Id: <199909081921.MAA36495@rah.star-gate.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.2 2/24/98 To: roger@cs.strath.ac.uk Cc: multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Cool FreeBSD Camera ! Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Wed, 08 Sep 1999 12:21:59 -0700 From: Amancio Hasty Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi, Just want to let you know that I am super impress with your lab setup and I think it will most be cool if you wrote a short presentation paper on your experience in using freebsd with your embedded PC / Camera / Remote controlled system running FreeBSD and your java applet to control the system. Cheers -- Amancio Hasty hasty@rah.star-gate.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Wed Sep 8 12:41:16 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org Received: from kiew.egd.igd.fhg.de (kiew.egd.igd.fhg.de [192.102.170.32]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6465D15695 for ; Wed, 8 Sep 1999 12:40:47 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from runge@rostock.zgdv.de) Received: from rostock.zgdv.de (ppp01.egd.igd.fhg.de [153.96.43.211]) by kiew.egd.igd.fhg.de (Netscape Messaging Server 3.6) with ESMTP id AAA3754 for ; Wed, 8 Sep 1999 21:39:46 +0200 Message-ID: <37D6BAED.67E1D90F@rostock.zgdv.de> Date: Wed, 08 Sep 1999 21:37:17 +0200 From: Thomas Runge X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.6 [en] (X11; U; FreeBSD 3.2-RELEASE i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: ANNOUNCE: Linux ABI/SDK standards for OpenGL/Mesa (fwd) References: <199909081852.LAA36244@rah.star-gate.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Amancio Hasty wrote: > > I think that what the group wants is the ability to share binaries and the > problem with that in linux is its highly incompatibility of different > versions of libc or glibc. Gna, just read the document. It's almost all about binary compatibility. Hopefully we or the Linuxers won't go the Windows way in providing only binaries for apps... Even if we've got a good Linux mode, there is NetBSD as well with a lot of non-x86 architectures, which will suffer from it. -- Tom To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Wed Sep 8 12:53:14 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org Received: from rah.star-gate.com (216-200-29-190.snj0.flashcom.net [216.200.29.194]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9ECE415727 for ; Wed, 8 Sep 1999 12:53:11 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from hasty@rah.star-gate.com) Received: from rah.star-gate.com (localhost.star-gate.com [127.0.0.1]) by rah.star-gate.com (8.9.3/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA36697; Wed, 8 Sep 1999 12:48:59 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from hasty@rah.star-gate.com) Message-Id: <199909081948.MAA36697@rah.star-gate.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.2 2/24/98 To: Thomas Runge Cc: multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: ANNOUNCE: Linux ABI/SDK standards for OpenGL/Mesa (fwd) In-reply-to: Your message of "Wed, 08 Sep 1999 21:37:17 +0200." <37D6BAED.67E1D90F@rostock.zgdv.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Wed, 08 Sep 1999 12:48:58 -0700 From: Amancio Hasty Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org True, however binary compatibility in the linux sense has nothing to do with different versions of their libraries. For example as long they all compiled against the same library set including libc or glibc then everything is "fine" or so goes the linux story and the linux mode can only help you so far for even though we are in a good position to swap linux libraries to our hearts contents it does not mean that setup for X application is going to let you run Y set of applications which were compiled with a different version of libraries. Just recently tested java across different linux distributions and just about all of them failed in one way or another. The picture is not too bright in the linux camp. > Amancio Hasty wrote: > > > > I think that what the group wants is the ability to share binaries and the > > problem with that in linux is its highly incompatibility of different > > versions of libc or glibc. > > Gna, just read the document. It's almost all about binary compatibility. > Hopefully we or the Linuxers won't go the Windows way in providing only > binaries for apps... Even if we've got a good Linux mode, there is > NetBSD > as well with a lot of non-x86 architectures, which will suffer from it. > > -- > Tom > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message -- Amancio Hasty hasty@rah.star-gate.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Wed Sep 8 13:22:21 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org Received: from pluto.ipass.net (pluto.ipass.net [198.79.53.5]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 02E2314BD6 for ; Wed, 8 Sep 1999 13:22:09 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from rhh@ipass.net) Received: from stealth.ipass.net. (ppp-1-16.dialup.rdu.ipass.net [209.170.132.16]) by pluto.ipass.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA05720; Wed, 8 Sep 1999 16:21:15 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from rhh@localhost) by stealth.ipass.net. (8.9.3/8.8.8) id QAA53769; Wed, 8 Sep 1999 16:22:15 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from rhh) Date: Wed, 8 Sep 1999 16:22:15 -0400 From: Randall Hopper To: thomas@hentschel.net Cc: multimedia@freebsd.org Subject: fxtv MPEG-audio encoding problems (was Re: fxtv-1.00 Part II) Message-ID: <19990908162215.A53514@ipass.net> References: <199909080713.AAA28166@gate.hentschel.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.1i In-Reply-To: <199909080713.AAA28166@gate.hentschel.net>; from thomas@hentschel.net on Wed, Sep 08, 1999 at 12:18:36AM -0700 Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org You need to fetch MPEG-audio dist10. This is described in the README file (/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fxtv/README). At some point I should look into why our MPEGaudio port doesn't play well with our sox (maybe it's a dist9/dist10 difference? it behaves like header byte order problems), but for now just fetch dist10 and build. Or if you like, let me know and I'll mail you my dist10 installed tree. It's not big. It's like 200K compressed. Randy thomas@hentschel.net: | one more question, I just tried audio encoding too (first | time with fxtv *blush*) | | When I choose mp2 the console gives : | |::EXEC:: sox -t raw -s -w -c 2 -r 44100 test.AUDraw -t aiff test.aiff |&& mpeg_musicin -l 2 -p 1 test.aiff test.mp2 && rm test.aiff |>>> Using Audio IFF sound file headers |Sound data is not PCM in "test.aiff". |::STATUS:: 1 | | choosing mp3 I get : | |::EXEC:: sox -t raw -s -w -c 2 -r 44100 test.AUDraw -t aiff test.aiff && mpeg_musicin -l 3 -p 2 test.aiff test.mp3 && rm test.aiff |mpeg_musicin: -l layer must be 1 or 2, not 3 | | How would I go about getting around this ? Fxtv-1.00, Sox and | mpegaudio are the latest available, 2.2-stable. | Just wondering if you see the same thing To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Wed Sep 8 13:44:17 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org Received: from pluto.ipass.net (pluto.ipass.net [198.79.53.5]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B2E6614C1C for ; Wed, 8 Sep 1999 13:44:11 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from rhh@ipass.net) Received: from stealth.ipass.net. (ppp-1-16.dialup.rdu.ipass.net [209.170.132.16]) by pluto.ipass.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA10922; Wed, 8 Sep 1999 16:43:51 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from rhh@localhost) by stealth.ipass.net. (8.9.3/8.8.8) id QAA54627; Wed, 8 Sep 1999 16:44:51 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from rhh) Date: Wed, 8 Sep 1999 16:44:51 -0400 From: Randall Hopper To: thomas@hentschel.net Cc: multimedia@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Fxtv 1.00 - up for grabs Message-ID: <19990908164451.A54555@ipass.net> References: <19990907060034.A8985@ipass.net> <199909080341.UAA27666@gate.hentschel.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary=gBBFr7Ir9EOA20Yy X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.1i In-Reply-To: <199909080341.UAA27666@gate.hentschel.net>; from thomas@hentschel.net on Tue, Sep 07, 1999 at 08:47:08PM -0700 Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org --gBBFr7Ir9EOA20Yy Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii thomas@hentschel.net: |Ha, I found the problem : Whenever you give the file to be saved an |absolute path the console say's |"Failed to open for write: .//hd3/thomas/test.sh" | ^^ |and fxtv returns with an error. Works well with relative paths. |I just gotta run and pick someone up at the airport, I'll look into |this a bit more later. Ahh, yes. Somebody mailed me about encoding not working unless "." was in the $PATH, and I added this at the last minute. A more intelligent fix would prepend ./ only if no path (relative or absolute) was specified. Sorry about that. The attached patch should do the trick. Thanks also for the 2.2.8 patches BTW. |BTW, the frame rate conversion is GREAT !! Now I get non-choppy mpegs |out of this lowly P133 :) Hey, glad to hear it! Randall --gBBFr7Ir9EOA20Yy Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="fxtv-1.00.mpegbasepath.patch" --- t/fxtv-1.00/vidsav_dlg.c Mon Sep 6 10:39:18 1999 +++ vidsav_dlg.c Wed Sep 8 16:39:04 1999 @@ -70,7 +70,7 @@ /* ******************** Local defines ************** */ #define AV_RAWNAME_FMT "%s.AVraw" -#define SCRIPT_FNAME_FMT "./%s.sh" +#define SCRIPT_FNAME_FMT "%s%s.sh" #define OPTIMIZE_NUM_FRAMES 200 @@ -801,9 +801,12 @@ char *str; struct stat stat; TV_INT32 i; + TV_BOOL has_path; /* Open output script file */ - sprintf( p->script_fname, SCRIPT_FNAME_FMT, p->fname_base ); + has_path = strchr( "p->fname_base", '/' ) != NULL; + sprintf( p->script_fname, SCRIPT_FNAME_FMT, + (has_path ? "./" : ""), p->fname_base ); if ( (fp = fopen( p->script_fname, "wt" )) == NULL ) { fprintf( stderr, "Failed to open for write: %s\n", p->script_fname ); --gBBFr7Ir9EOA20Yy-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Wed Sep 8 13:52:48 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org Received: from qn-lpr2-98.quicknet.inet.fi (qn-lpr2-165.quicknet.inet.fi [194.251.102.165]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 280A514C32 for ; Wed, 8 Sep 1999 13:52:38 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from junki@qn-lpr2-165.quicknet.inet.fi) Received: from localhost (junki@localhost) by qn-lpr2-98.quicknet.inet.fi (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id XAA10976 for ; Wed, 8 Sep 1999 23:52:14 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from junki@qn-lpr2-165.quicknet.inet.fi) Date: Wed, 8 Sep 1999 23:52:05 +0300 (EEST) From: Juha Nurmela X-Sender: junki@pena.oh5nxo.ampr.org Reply-To: Juha.Nurmela@quicknet.inet.fi To: multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Cool FreeBSD Camera ! Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Wow. Amancio was referring to http://telepresence.dmem.strath.ac.uk ? A question, how much power one can draw from the special s-video connector of the Hauppauges, few Watts ? That would make a neat setup, one single cable only, containing the video, power and control lines, few meters long. At the end a camera with positioning servos controlled by i2c solenoid driver and feedback from 4-channel i2c A/D. If the commercial camera from Hauppauge draws power from the s-video (?), then it must be sturdy enough to handle small servos too, at least if not driven concurrently ? Juha To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Wed Sep 8 14:15:50 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org Received: from msxsmtp1.novellus.com (msxsmtp1.Novellus.Com [198.211.186.81]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4E9A115101 for ; Wed, 8 Sep 1999 14:15:41 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from Thomas.Hentschel@NOVELLUS.com) Received: by msxsmtp1.novellus.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) id ; Wed, 8 Sep 1999 14:14:17 -0700 Message-ID: From: "Hentschel, Thomas" To: thomas@hentschel.net, 'Randall Hopper' Cc: multimedia@freebsd.org Subject: RE: fxtv MPEG-audio encoding problems (was Re: fxtv-1.00 Part II) Date: Wed, 8 Sep 1999 14:16:48 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----_=_NextPart_000_01BEFA3F.1B89ACE6" Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. ------_=_NextPart_000_01BEFA3F.1B89ACE6 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" ---------- From: Randall Hopper [SMTP:aa8vb@ipass.net] Sent: Wednesday, September 08, 1999 1:22 PM To: thomas@hentschel.net Cc: multimedia@freebsd.org Subject: fxtv MPEG-audio encoding problems (was Re: fxtv-1.00 Part II) You need to fetch MPEG-audio dist10. This is described in the README file (/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fxtv/README). Arrgh, that's what I get for not reading the docs - Thanks, it build and installed, I'm gonna have to play with this tonight (I'm not at the machine right now) Attached a diff for the README <> Thanks again !! -Th ------_=_NextPart_000_01BEFA3F.1B89ACE6 Content-Type: application/octet-stream; name="README.diff" Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="README.diff" --- README.org Wed Sep 8 13:44:05 1999 +++ README Wed Sep 8 13:48:36 1999 @@ -563,15 +563,15 @@ Then: tar -zxovf dist10.tar.gz - cd dist10/dist10/lsf/encoder - configure + cd dist10/lsf/encoder + ./configure gmake mv encode /usr/local/bin/mpeg_musicin find tables -print | cpio -dumpv /usr/local/lib/mpegaudio cd ../decoder - configure + ./configure gmake - mv decoder /usr/local/bin/mpeg_musicout + mv decode /usr/local/bin/mpeg_musicout and finally, put this env var setting in your profile: ------_=_NextPart_000_01BEFA3F.1B89ACE6-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Wed Sep 8 15:47: 8 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org Received: from uni4nn.gn.iaf.nl (osmium.gn.iaf.nl [193.67.144.12]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9223C15792 for ; Wed, 8 Sep 1999 15:47:02 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from wilko@yedi.iaf.nl) Received: from yedi.iaf.nl (uucp@localhost) by uni4nn.gn.iaf.nl (8.9.2/8.9.2) with UUCP id AAA11948; Thu, 9 Sep 1999 00:40:25 +0200 (MET DST) Received: (from wilko@localhost) by yedi.iaf.nl (8.9.3/8.9.3) id AAA02240; Thu, 9 Sep 1999 00:34:12 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wilko) From: Wilko Bulte Message-Id: <199909082234.AAA02240@yedi.iaf.nl> Subject: Re: Fxtv 1.00 - up for grabs In-Reply-To: <19990907200641.A27105@ipass.net> from Randall Hopper at "Sep 7, 1999 8: 6:41 pm" To: aa8vb@ipass.net (Randall Hopper) Date: Thu, 9 Sep 1999 00:34:11 +0200 (CEST) Cc: multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG X-Organisation: Private FreeBSD site - Arnhem, The Netherlands X-pgp-info: PGP public key at 'finger wilko@freefall.freebsd.org' X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org As Randall Hopper wrote ... > Wilko Bulte: > |Patch solves the build failure on my 3.2-STABLE (eh, now 3.3-RC ). > | > |But I have another very annoying problem: the picture is for 80% shifted > |outside the window (to the left). As this is a Matrox Millenium II (PCI) > |8Mb display I think it is a known issue. But isn't there any 'instant fix' > |or maybe an autodetect of which display is used possible? > | > |Fxtv 0.48 had a patch available to fix this, which worked fine for me. > > The same patch will probably apply cleanly to 1.00. If not, just hand-hack > the one line. I did in the meantime. Works OK. > As to autodetect, Fxtv can't cleanly determine which card you have anyway > (AFAIK). And even if it could, I don't want to write in card-specific > hacks to the application. I was afraid of that, and I understand the 'cleanliness' is an issue. > works fine for me on 3.3.3.1, but 3.9.16's DGA doesn't return an address > "even close" to the linear frame buffer (ouch!). When I get a few minutes, > I'll whip up a DGA test program for TV users to run to test out DGA for > their cards, so we can help the XFree86 folks get the DGA (and VidMode) > extensions squared away (via problem reports) before 4.0 hits. Problem is that the WinTV is in my 'production box' (ugh, it at least is the machine I keep on stable s/w as much as possible). I don't feel like trying experimental Xfree code onto it. Wilko -- | / o / / _ Arnhem, The Netherlands - Powered by FreeBSD - |/|/ / / /( (_) Bulte WWW : http://www.tcja.nl http://www.freebsd.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Wed Sep 8 16: 2:58 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org Received: from mail2.netcologne.de (mail2.netcologne.de [194.8.194.103]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 896EF15253; Wed, 8 Sep 1999 16:02:35 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from van.woerkom@netcologne.de) Received: from oranje.my.domain (dial-lind-101.netcologne.de [195.14.250.101]) by mail2.netcologne.de (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id BAA22508; Thu, 9 Sep 1999 01:01:36 +0200 (MET DST) Received: (from marc@localhost) by oranje.my.domain (8.9.3/8.9.3) id BAA01915; Thu, 9 Sep 1999 01:01:06 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from van.woerkom@netcologne.de) Date: Thu, 9 Sep 1999 01:01:06 +0200 (CEST) Message-Id: <199909082301.BAA01915@oranje.my.domain> X-Authentication-Warning: oranje.my.domain: marc set sender to van.woerkom@netcologne.de using -f From: Marc van Woerkom To: multimedia@freebsd.org Cc: runge@rostock.zgdv.de, asami@freebsd.org, jseger@freebsd.org In-reply-to: <37D6BAED.67E1D90F@rostock.zgdv.de> (message from Thomas Runge on Wed, 08 Sep 1999 21:37:17 +0200) Subject: Re: ANNOUNCE: Linux ABI/SDK standards for OpenGL/Mesa (fwd) Reply-To: van.woerkom@netcologne.de References: <199909081852.LAA36244@rah.star-gate.com> <37D6BAED.67E1D90F@rostock.zgdv.de> Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > Gna, just read the document. It's almost all about binary compatibility. > Hopefully we or the Linuxers won't go the Windows way in providing only > binaries for apps... Even if we've got a good Linux mode, there is > NetBSD > as well with a lot of non-x86 architectures, which will suffer from it. And another spec to put through the processing pipe .. when do these folks have time to code? :) That forwarded doc explains this recent mail from Brian Paul on Mesa-dev: > Here's another issue. There's an effort underway to standardize > the OpenGL environment on Linux. One aspect of that is version > numbering for the libGL.so file (used to be libMesaGL.so). > > I propose this lib name for the 3.1 release: libGL.so.1.2.310 > The 1.2 designates an implementation of the 1.2 API specification. > The 310 designates the Mesa version number (3.1.0). The main idea > is to allow Linux OpenGL apps to relink with other OpenGL > implementations at load/runtime. Comments? Our present Mesa 3.0 setup looks like this: libGL.a -> libMesaGL.a libGL.so -> libGL.so.1 libGL.so.1 libGL.so.14 -> libMesaGL.so.14 libGLU.a -> libMesaGLU.a libGLU.so -> libMesaGLU.so libGLU.so.14 -> libMesaGLU.so.14 libMesaGL.a libMesaGL.so -> libMesaGL.so.14 libMesaGL.so.14 libMesaGLU.a libMesaGLU.so -> libMesaGLU.so.14 libMesaGLU.so.14 My understanding from http://www.freebsd.org/~asami/elf-guidelines.txt sections (3a) and (5) was, that since ELF we left the major.minor numbering scheme for shared libs to simply that of one version number. "bump it, if it breaks old stuff" as ELF would use no other error detection than crashing at runtime otherwise. So too me it looks like we end up with something like libGL_1_2.310, if use Brians idea. I pass this on. What should we do under FreeBSD? Regards, Marc To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Wed Sep 8 16:10:43 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org Received: from mail2.netcologne.de (mail2.netcologne.de [194.8.194.103]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 858C014C17 for ; Wed, 8 Sep 1999 16:10:38 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from van.woerkom@netcologne.de) Received: from oranje.my.domain (dial-lind-101.netcologne.de [195.14.250.101]) by mail2.netcologne.de (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id BAA22760; Thu, 9 Sep 1999 01:10:33 +0200 (MET DST) Received: (from marc@localhost) by oranje.my.domain (8.9.3/8.9.3) id BAA02059; Thu, 9 Sep 1999 01:10:04 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from van.woerkom@netcologne.de) Date: Thu, 9 Sep 1999 01:10:04 +0200 (CEST) Message-Id: <199909082310.BAA02059@oranje.my.domain> X-Authentication-Warning: oranje.my.domain: marc set sender to van.woerkom@netcologne.de using -f From: Marc van Woerkom To: hasty@rah.star-gate.com Cc: runge@rostock.zgdv.de, multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG In-reply-to: <199909081948.MAA36697@rah.star-gate.com> (message from Amancio Hasty on Wed, 08 Sep 1999 12:48:58 -0700) Subject: Re: ANNOUNCE: Linux ABI/SDK standards for OpenGL/Mesa (fwd) Reply-To: van.woerkom@netcologne.de References: <199909081948.MAA36697@rah.star-gate.com> Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > Just recently tested java across different linux distributions and just > about all of them failed in one way or another. The picture is not too > bright in the linux camp. We only had a bit of fun with a.out and ELF. Most annoying version change for me so far was Irix 5.x to 6.x transition, this followed by that linux lib crap (libc5/glib2/glib2.1..) Regards, Marc To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Wed Sep 8 16:23:42 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org Received: from rah.star-gate.com (216-200-29-190.snj0.flashcom.net [216.200.29.194]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2B7AF15091 for ; Wed, 8 Sep 1999 16:23:37 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from hasty@rah.star-gate.com) Received: from rah.star-gate.com (localhost.star-gate.com [127.0.0.1]) by rah.star-gate.com (8.9.3/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA38654; Wed, 8 Sep 1999 16:19:48 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from hasty@rah.star-gate.com) Message-Id: <199909082319.QAA38654@rah.star-gate.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.2 2/24/98 To: van.woerkom@netcologne.de Cc: runge@rostock.zgdv.de, multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: ANNOUNCE: Linux ABI/SDK standards for OpenGL/Mesa (fwd) In-reply-to: Your message of "Thu, 09 Sep 1999 01:10:04 +0200." <199909082310.BAA02059@oranje.my.domain> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Wed, 08 Sep 1999 16:19:48 -0700 From: Amancio Hasty Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Yes, a little fun of with the conversion of FreeBSD a.out to ELF: C-Kermit 5A(190), 4 Oct 94, for FreeBSD Copyright (C) 1985, 1994, Trustees of Columbia University in the City of New York. Type ? or HELP for help. C-Kermit> And all linux users drool !! I am not a fanatic . I just hate the crappy shared library implemenation on linux and poor quality of what they call libc or glibc. > > Just recently tested java across different linux distributions and just > > about all of them failed in one way or another. The picture is not too > > bright in the linux camp. > > We only had a bit of fun with a.out and ELF. > > Most annoying version change for me so far was Irix 5.x to 6.x transition, > this followed by that linux lib crap (libc5/glib2/glib2.1..) > > > Regards, > Marc -- Amancio Hasty hasty@rah.star-gate.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Wed Sep 8 16:24:26 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org Received: from horst.bfd.com (horst.bfd.com [12.9.219.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6AFFF15091 for ; Wed, 8 Sep 1999 16:24:25 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ejs@bfd.com) Received: from HARLIE.bfd.com (bastion.bfd.com [12.9.219.14]) by horst.bfd.com (8.9.3/8.9.2) with ESMTP id QAA03124; Wed, 8 Sep 1999 16:23:41 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ejs@bfd.com) Date: Wed, 8 Sep 1999 16:23:41 -0700 (PDT) From: "Eric J. Schwertfeger" To: Marc van Woerkom Cc: hasty@rah.star-gate.com, runge@rostock.zgdv.de, multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: ANNOUNCE: Linux ABI/SDK standards for OpenGL/Mesa (fwd) In-Reply-To: <199909082310.BAA02059@oranje.my.domain> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Thu, 9 Sep 1999, Marc van Woerkom wrote: > We only had a bit of fun with a.out and ELF. The linux camp had their own bit of fun with that too :-) I was using Linux then. But you're right, the current libc status in the linux camp is the worst I've seen yet, not having dealt with IRIX, this is the worst so far (judging just by the problems I read on the multiplatform lists I'm on). To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Wed Sep 8 18:30:59 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org Received: from pluto.ipass.net (pluto.ipass.net [198.79.53.5]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 69C9F14BF5 for ; Wed, 8 Sep 1999 18:30:53 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from rhh@ipass.net) Received: from stealth.ipass.net. (ppp-2-220.dialup.rdu.ipass.net [209.170.133.220]) by pluto.ipass.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id VAA08842; Wed, 8 Sep 1999 21:30:39 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from rhh@localhost) by stealth.ipass.net. (8.9.3/8.8.8) id VAA62551; Wed, 8 Sep 1999 21:31:39 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from rhh) Date: Wed, 8 Sep 1999 21:31:39 -0400 From: Randall Hopper To: "Hentschel, Thomas" Cc: multimedia@freebsd.org Subject: Re: fxtv MPEG-audio encoding problems (was Re: fxtv-1.00 Part II) Message-ID: <19990908213139.A61803@ipass.net> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.1i In-Reply-To: ; from Hentschel, Thomas on Wed, Sep 08, 1999 at 02:16:48PM -0700 Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hentschel, Thomas: | You need to fetch MPEG-audio dist10. This is described in the | README file (/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fxtv/README). | |Arrgh, that's what I get for not reading the docs - Thanks, it build and |installed, I'm gonna have to play with this tonight (I'm not at the machine |right now) No prob. It should be in the man page (which is pretty anemic right now). |Attached a diff for the README [patch applied] Thanks! Randall To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Wed Sep 8 18:45: 1 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org Received: from pluto.ipass.net (pluto.ipass.net [198.79.53.5]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BC4DB15F2D for ; Wed, 8 Sep 1999 18:44:11 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from rhh@ipass.net) Received: from stealth.ipass.net. (ppp-2-220.dialup.rdu.ipass.net [209.170.133.220]) by pluto.ipass.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id VAA11781; Wed, 8 Sep 1999 21:44:05 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from rhh@localhost) by stealth.ipass.net. (8.9.3/8.8.8) id VAA62935; Wed, 8 Sep 1999 21:45:05 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from rhh) Date: Wed, 8 Sep 1999 21:45:05 -0400 From: Randall Hopper To: Wilko Bulte Cc: multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Fxtv 1.00 - up for grabs Message-ID: <19990908214505.A62887@ipass.net> References: <19990907200641.A27105@ipass.net> <199909082234.AAA02240@yedi.iaf.nl> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.1i In-Reply-To: <199909082234.AAA02240@yedi.iaf.nl>; from Wilko Bulte on Thu, Sep 09, 1999 at 12:34:11AM +0200 Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Wilko Bulte: |> works fine for me on 3.3.3.1, but 3.9.16's DGA doesn't return an address |> "even close" to the linear frame buffer (ouch!). When I get a few minutes, |> I'll whip up a DGA test program for TV users to run to test out DGA for |> their cards, so we can help the XFree86 folks get the DGA (and VidMode) |> extensions squared away (via problem reports) before 4.0 hits. | |Problem is that the WinTV is in my 'production box' (ugh, it at least |is the machine I keep on stable s/w as much as possible). I don't feel |like trying experimental Xfree code onto it. Yeah, not a big deal. I know there are (at least) 5 or 6 other TVs out there with MilleniumII-in-tow out on the list since your DGA-shift problem has come up plenty before. I'm sure they can cover for you. Randall To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Wed Sep 8 18:55:28 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org Received: from rah.star-gate.com (216-200-29-190.snj0.flashcom.net [216.200.29.194]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4139414DB2 for ; Wed, 8 Sep 1999 18:55:25 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from hasty@rah.star-gate.com) Received: from rah.star-gate.com (localhost.star-gate.com [127.0.0.1]) by rah.star-gate.com (8.9.3/8.8.8) with ESMTP id SAA41253; Wed, 8 Sep 1999 18:52:01 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from hasty@rah.star-gate.com) Message-Id: <199909090152.SAA41253@rah.star-gate.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.2 2/24/98 To: Doug Rabson Cc: multimedia Subject: Re: New 3D software available In-reply-to: Your message of "Sun, 05 Sep 1999 10:06:50 BST." Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Wed, 08 Sep 1999 18:52:00 -0700 From: Amancio Hasty Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Just managed to install your super duper 3d graph package . Very , Very nice. The install was very painless : 1. installed Mesa3 from the ports/graphics directory 2. Then follow your simple instructions and voila that whats it 8) Say , since I have it running on -current + XFree86 4.0 with a Riva TNT2 card got any ideas how can I add support for the 3d acceleration stuff found in XFree86 4.0? Tnks! -- Amancio Hasty hasty@rah.star-gate.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Wed Sep 8 23:26:13 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org Received: from gate.hentschel.net (gate.hentschel.net [216.200.30.15]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 084A714BF9 for ; Wed, 8 Sep 1999 23:26:08 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from root@gate.gothaer.net) Received: from mail.gothaer.net (dorothy [192.168.1.2]) by gate.hentschel.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id UAA24237; Mon, 6 Sep 1999 20:41:02 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from root@gate.gothaer.net) Message-Id: <199909070341.UAA24237@gate.hentschel.net> Date: Mon, 6 Sep 1999 20:46:38 -0700 (PDT) From: thomas@hentschel.net Subject: Re: Fxtv 1.00 - up for grabs To: Randall Hopper Cc: multimedia@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <19990906232248.A815@ipass.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/plain; CHARSET=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On 6 Sep, Randall Hopper wrote: > Jordan K. Hubbard: > |Hmmm, doesn't build for me on 3.2-stable [snip] > With -stable's kernel frozen, sounds like a patch to -stable's port is the > best route (attached). Roger, could you add this in when you check in the > port? > > Thanks, > > Randall > Builds and runs great here, thanks a lot Randall. Even 2.2.8 is possible (with a bit more work). Just one question : When one tests for the optimum frame rate, what does it need a file name for ?? :) -Th To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Thu Sep 9 0: 9: 4 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org Received: from gate.hentschel.net (gate.hentschel.net [216.200.30.15]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D9D53151C4 for ; Thu, 9 Sep 1999 00:08:58 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from root@gate.hentschel.net) Received: from mail.hentschel.net (dorothy [192.168.1.2]) by gate.hentschel.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id XAA02027 for ; Wed, 8 Sep 1999 23:58:15 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from root@gate.hentschel.net) Message-Id: <199909090658.XAA02027@gate.hentschel.net> Date: Thu, 9 Sep 1999 00:03:51 -0700 (PDT) From: thomas@hentschel.net Subject: Re: fxtv MPEG-audio encoding problems - mplex To: multimedia@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <19990908213139.A61803@ipass.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/plain; CHARSET=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On 8 Sep, Randall Hopper wrote: > Hentschel, Thomas: > | You need to fetch MPEG-audio dist10. This is described in the > | README file (/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fxtv/README). > | > |Arrgh, that's what I get for not reading the docs - Thanks, it build and > |installed, I'm gonna have to play with this tonight (I'm not at the machine > |right now) > > No prob. It should be in the man page (which is pretty anemic right now). > Hi Randall got over that hump, now that the frame rate works I'm determined to make the mpg encoding work. The video part works great, however the audio part is still giving trouble. If I try encoding in mp3, the following happens (on the console with -debug subproc) : ::EXEC:: mplex test.mpg test.mp3 test.mps *************************************************************** * MPEG1/SYSTEMS Multiplexer * * (C) Christoph Moar, 1994/1995 * * moar@informatik.tu-muenchen.de * * Technical University of Munich * * SIEMENS ZFE ST SN 11 / T SN 6 * * * * This program is free software. See the GNU General Public * * License in the file COPYING for more details. * * Release 1.1 (06.06.95) * *************************************************************** File test.mpg is a 11172-2 Video stream. File test.mp3 is a 11172-3 Audio stream. Scanning Video stream for access units information. Got 91 picture headers. 99% Done, stream bit offset 1617696. +------------------ VIDEO STREAM INFORMATION -----------------+ Stream length : 202212 Sequence start : 1 Sequence end : 1 No. Pictures : 93 No. Groups : 9 No. I Frames : 19 avg. size 8765 bytes No. P Frames : 28 avg. size 870 bytes No. B Frames : 46 avg. size 245 bytes No. D Frames : 0 avg. size 0 bytes Horizontal size: 320 Vertical size : 240 Aspect ratio : 1.0000 VGA etc Picture rate : 24.000 frames/sec Bit rate : variable Computed rate : 52500 bytes/sec Vbv buffer size: 0 bytes CSPF : 0 Scanning Audio stream for access units information. Segmentation fault - core dumped ::STATUS:: 139 Command Failed: mplex test.mpg test.mp3 test.mps Conversion Aborted. What strikes me as odd is that 24.000 frames/sec -- I set it to 10 frames/sec in the dialog. If I do encoding with mp2, the conversion finishes ok, but playing with mtv or a ~doze player displays the video correctly, but the sound is just a short *blop. When doing just audio recording, both mp2 and mp3 are ok, this makes me think that the problem lies somewhere in mplex. I went thru the (somewhat sparse) documentation of mplex, couldn't find anything useful.... any idea ?? Thanks for all the help so far, hope I didn't hit the annoyance threshold yet -- -Th To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Thu Sep 9 1:40:40 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org Received: from herring.nlsystems.com (nlsys.demon.co.uk [158.152.125.33]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8E3C215CE5 for ; Thu, 9 Sep 1999 01:40:09 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dfr@nlsystems.com) Received: from salmon.nlsystems.com (salmon.nlsystems.com [10.0.0.3]) by herring.nlsystems.com (8.9.3/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA48462; Thu, 9 Sep 1999 09:42:51 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from dfr@nlsystems.com) Date: Thu, 9 Sep 1999 09:42:51 +0100 (BST) From: Doug Rabson To: Amancio Hasty Cc: multimedia Subject: Re: New 3D software available In-Reply-To: <199909090152.SAA41253@rah.star-gate.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Wed, 8 Sep 1999, Amancio Hasty wrote: > Just managed to install your super duper 3d graph package . Very , Very nice. > > The install was very painless : > > 1. installed Mesa3 from the ports/graphics directory > 2. Then follow your simple instructions and voila that whats it 8) > > > Say , since I have it running on -current + XFree86 4.0 with a Riva > TNT2 card got any ideas how can I add support for the 3d acceleration > stuff found in XFree86 4.0? The 3D code in 3.9.16 is not quite ready for prime time. It only supports one card (an expensive Glint card) and the kernel component of the driver model hasn't been ported to FreeBSD. A better solution for now is to use Marc van Woerkom's port to build the TNT glx driver for XFree86 3.3.x. This works but isn't as fast as it should be due to the limited architecture (compared to what will be in 4.0). -- Doug Rabson Mail: dfr@nlsystems.com Nonlinear Systems Ltd. Phone: +44 181 442 9037 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Thu Sep 9 2: 2:41 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org Received: from fleming.cs.strath.ac.uk (fleming.cs.strath.ac.uk [130.159.196.126]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 43DC115CCE for ; Thu, 9 Sep 1999 02:02:22 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from roger@cs.strath.ac.uk) Received: from muir-10 (roger@muir-10.cs.strath.ac.uk [130.159.148.10]) by fleming.cs.strath.ac.uk (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id KAA26634 Thu, 9 Sep 1999 10:02:09 +0100 (BST) Message-ID: <37D77791.794B@cs.strath.ac.uk> Date: Thu, 09 Sep 1999 10:02:09 +0100 From: Roger Hardiman Organization: University of Strathclyde X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.04Gold (X11; I; OSF1 V4.0 alpha) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: multimedia@freebsd.org Subject: VIC and X11-Grabber update. Please test Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi. I have changed the X11 Grabber code in the VIC port. It now supports grabbing bitmaps from the X11 Desktop in 24 bit colour mode. Handy for wanting to show other users what's on your desktop. Previously 24 bit colour mode gave you a blury yellow image. Only 16 bit colour mode was usable before. The fix also allows VIC to recompile on 4.x-current. It had been broken for a few weeks following an upgrade to the C++ compiler (to a newer version of EGCS) I've committed the changes to the ports tree. The only file which changed was /usr/ports/mbone/vic/patches/patch-am Please can you remake VIC from the port and let me know if it all works for you. I need to know if I have broken anything. We only have 1 day before the Freeze for FreeBSD 3.3 Thanks Roger -- Roger Hardiman | Telepresence Research Group roger@cs.strath.ac.uk | DMEM, University of Strathclyde tel: 0141 548 2897 | Glasgow, Scotland, G1 1XJ, UK fax: 0141 552 0557 | http://telepresence.dmem.strath.ac.uk To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Thu Sep 9 2: 5:52 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org Received: from rah.star-gate.com (216-200-29-190.snj0.flashcom.net [216.200.29.194]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6A9BD1504A for ; Thu, 9 Sep 1999 02:05:48 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from hasty@rah.star-gate.com) Received: from rah.star-gate.com (localhost.star-gate.com [127.0.0.1]) by rah.star-gate.com (8.9.3/8.8.8) with ESMTP id CAA57888; Thu, 9 Sep 1999 02:00:25 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from hasty@rah.star-gate.com) Message-Id: <199909090900.CAA57888@rah.star-gate.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.2 2/24/98 To: Doug Rabson Cc: multimedia Subject: Re: New 3D software available In-reply-to: Your message of "Thu, 09 Sep 1999 09:42:51 BST." Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Thu, 09 Sep 1999 02:00:25 -0700 From: Amancio Hasty Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi Doug, Whats the hold up with the loadable kernel module drm ? Do you know if anyone is working on porting the drm kernel module to FreeBSD? Last , does anyone know where can I get the specs for the TNT2? Tnks! -- Amancio Hasty hasty@rah.star-gate.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Thu Sep 9 3:24:31 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org Received: from herring.nlsystems.com (nlsys.demon.co.uk [158.152.125.33]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C7A6414C18 for ; Thu, 9 Sep 1999 03:24:15 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dfr@nlsystems.com) Received: from salmon.nlsystems.com (salmon.nlsystems.com [10.0.0.3]) by herring.nlsystems.com (8.9.3/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA00448; Thu, 9 Sep 1999 11:23:41 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from dfr@nlsystems.com) Date: Thu, 9 Sep 1999 11:23:41 +0100 (BST) From: Doug Rabson To: Amancio Hasty Cc: multimedia Subject: Re: New 3D software available In-Reply-To: <199909090900.CAA57888@rah.star-gate.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Thu, 9 Sep 1999, Amancio Hasty wrote: > Hi Doug, > > Whats the hold up with the loadable kernel module drm ? > > Do you know if anyone is working on porting the drm kernel > module to FreeBSD? I was planning to port the next version of it. There isn't much point in porting the existing one since there are very few drivers and the interface will certainly change before long. > > Last , does anyone know where can I get the specs for the TNT2? There is some information, including the source for a Mesa driver which implements the GLX protocol in XFree86 3.3.x on their website. -- Doug Rabson Mail: dfr@nlsystems.com Nonlinear Systems Ltd. Phone: +44 181 442 9037 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Thu Sep 9 3:27:52 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org Received: from rah.star-gate.com (216-200-29-190.snj0.flashcom.net [216.200.29.194]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5E9A0151AA for ; Thu, 9 Sep 1999 03:27:49 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from hasty@rah.star-gate.com) Received: from rah.star-gate.com (localhost.star-gate.com [127.0.0.1]) by rah.star-gate.com (8.9.3/8.8.8) with ESMTP id DAA64643; Thu, 9 Sep 1999 03:23:36 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from hasty@rah.star-gate.com) Message-Id: <199909091023.DAA64643@rah.star-gate.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.2 2/24/98 To: Doug Rabson Cc: multimedia Subject: Re: New 3D software available In-reply-to: Your message of "Thu, 09 Sep 1999 11:23:41 BST." Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Thu, 09 Sep 1999 03:23:36 -0700 From: Amancio Hasty Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I see . What I am after is providing yuv->rgb and scaling support . What are your thoughts of using DRI to the job? Tnks! > On Thu, 9 Sep 1999, Amancio Hasty wrote: > > > Hi Doug, > > > > Whats the hold up with the loadable kernel module drm ? > > > > Do you know if anyone is working on porting the drm kernel > > module to FreeBSD? > > I was planning to port the next version of it. There isn't much point in > porting the existing one since there are very few drivers and the > interface will certainly change before long. > > > > > Last , does anyone know where can I get the specs for the TNT2? > > There is some information, including the source for a Mesa driver which > implements the GLX protocol in XFree86 3.3.x on their website. > > -- > Doug Rabson Mail: dfr@nlsystems.com > Nonlinear Systems Ltd. Phone: +44 181 442 9037 > > -- Amancio Hasty hasty@rah.star-gate.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Thu Sep 9 11:45:32 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org Received: from uni4nn.gn.iaf.nl (osmium.gn.iaf.nl [193.67.144.12]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B71BF15198 for ; Thu, 9 Sep 1999 11:45:20 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from wilko@yedi.iaf.nl) Received: from yedi.iaf.nl (uucp@localhost) by uni4nn.gn.iaf.nl (8.9.2/8.9.2) with UUCP id UAA01462 for freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org; Thu, 9 Sep 1999 20:24:45 +0200 (MET DST) Received: (from wilko@localhost) by yedi.iaf.nl (8.9.3/8.9.3) id UAA01171 for freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org; Thu, 9 Sep 1999 20:00:54 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wilko) From: Wilko Bulte Message-Id: <199909091800.UAA01171@yedi.iaf.nl> Subject: SB16pnp second DMA channel? To: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org Date: Thu, 9 Sep 1999 20:00:54 +0200 (CEST) X-Organisation: Private FreeBSD site - Arnhem, The Netherlands X-pgp-info: PGP public key at 'finger wilko@freefall.freebsd.org' X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi there, I'm on a approx 3 days old 3.3-RC and decided to give pcm a try (instead of snd). I wonder where the 2nd DMA is: vga0: rev 0x00 int a irq 14 on pci0.12.0 Probing for PnP devices: CSN 1 Vendor ID: ALS0001 [0x01009305] Serial 0x01000000 Comp ID: @@@0000 [0x0000 0000] pcm1 (SB16pnp sn 0x01000000) at 0x220-0x22f irq 9 drq 6 flag s 0x13 on isa Probing for devices on the ISA bus: Kernel config file: #Soundcard #controller snd0 #device sb0 at isa? port 0x220 irq 5 drq 1 #device sbxvi0 at isa? drq 5 #device sbmidi0 at isa? port 0x330 # Luigi's snd code (use INSTEAD of snd0 and all VOXWARE drivers!). # You may also wish to enable the pnp controller with this, for pnp # sound cards. # controller pnp0 device pcm0 #device pcm0 at isa? port ? tty irq 5 drq 1 flags 0x15 ^--- this line reflects what I set the card to using the alconfig.exe tool that came with the card. Mtv sound is not 'smooth', it sounds like it is gasping for breath ;-) My guess this is because the 16bit DMA is not OK (??). As I don't pretend to understand this, what is it that I'm missing? TIA, Wilko -- | / o / / _ Arnhem, The Netherlands - Powered by FreeBSD - |/|/ / / /( (_) Bulte WWW : http://www.tcja.nl http://www.freebsd.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Thu Sep 9 17:25:49 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org Received: from mail2.netcologne.de (mail2.netcologne.de [194.8.194.103]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7514414F09 for ; Thu, 9 Sep 1999 17:25:43 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from van.woerkom@netcologne.de) Received: from oranje.my.domain (dial7-158.netcologne.de [195.14.235.158]) by mail2.netcologne.de (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id CAA04479; Fri, 10 Sep 1999 02:24:58 +0200 (MET DST) Received: (from marc@localhost) by oranje.my.domain (8.9.3/8.9.3) id CAA02216; Fri, 10 Sep 1999 02:24:28 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from van.woerkom@netcologne.de) Date: Fri, 10 Sep 1999 02:24:28 +0200 (CEST) Message-Id: <199909100024.CAA02216@oranje.my.domain> X-Authentication-Warning: oranje.my.domain: marc set sender to van.woerkom@netcologne.de using -f From: Marc van Woerkom To: hasty@rah.star-gate.com, multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG In-reply-to: (message from Doug Rabson on Thu, 9 Sep 1999 09:42:51 +0100 (BST)) Subject: Re: New 3D software available Reply-To: van.woerkom@netcologne.de References: Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Doug: Amancio: > > Say , since I have it running on -current + XFree86 4.0 with a Riva > > TNT2 card got any ideas how can I add support for the 3d acceleration > > stuff found in XFree86 4.0? > > The 3D code in 3.9.16 is not quite ready for prime time. It only supports > one card (an expensive Glint card) and the kernel component of the driver > model hasn't been ported to FreeBSD. My present attitude regarding to DRI is to wait for the XFree86 4 release, or some really close snapshot (which won't happen during the next 4 weeks) and use the time in between to catch up, improving that parts that are likely to stay and working on documentation. Really sure I am only of the Mesa lib. I use the 3.0 from the ports collection, but the 3.1 development version has seen many fixes lately, and I want to get it running badly. In conjunction with this I need some decent benchmark running too, like glperf. > A better solution for now is to use Marc van Woerkom's port to build the > TNT glx driver for XFree86 3.3.x. This works but isn't as fast as it > should be due to the limited architecture (compared to what will be in > 4.0). Thanks to Jordan's article in FreeBSD'zine, I was able to get the glx driver released by nvidia running on a RIVA 128 card with XFree86 3.3.3.1 ftp://ftp1.detonator.nvidia.com/pub/drivers/english/riva-tnt-tnt2-vanta/linux/ I was so impressed that I put it into a port - for some reason it has never been committed to the ports tree, http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=12661 maybe because I was too sloppy with deinstallation and package building issues or none of the commiters wants to put in time until XFree86 4 shows up. When I dived deeper into the subject, I found out that this nvidia package was a snapshot from an openproject.net effort who took an older free implementation effort of GLX and the then released Matrox specs to create accelerated 3d for G200 cards. nvidia's David Schmenk took a certain glx project snapshot and added a simple driver for nvidia RIVA 128/ZX/TNT/TNT2 cards. This way nvidia's rivaglx-0.99 was born. Anyway, if you want that FreeBSD port, get it here: http://www.freebsd.org/~3d/distfiles/glx/XF3.3.3.1 This led to involvement in the glx and Mesa projects. I took a more recent snapshot from glx and adapted it to XFree86 3.3.4 that came out in the meanwhile. The snapshot is more complete than nvidia's and features Matrox G200/G400 support as well. Get this latest port here: http://www.freebsd.org/~3d/distfiles/glx/XF3.3.4 While this 3.3.4 port is more sane than the 3.3.3.1 and I got positive test reports from Matrox users plus it ran on my new TNT board, it didn't made it in the ports tree either. OK this time I didn't submit it. :) One of the various reasons was the release of XFree86 3.3.5, which is mostly a bug fixed 3.3.4. While I believe that the 3.3.4 glx.so should work together with 3.3.5 too, I had no time to test it sufficiently. Except for this test and the Mesa update, I should update glx to a newer version, now (after the project server disaster) as the tree looks sane again. But this could be wasted time, because the openprojects.net glx is expected to be replaced by a GLX from SGI! So the only bit of that project that iw likely to stay (if Precision Insight does not write their own) is the matrox and nvidia drivers. The nvidia driver is said to be not optimized yet. It would "just" require to understand nvidia's released specs https://www.nvidia.com/nv/nvarch.nsf/Home?OpenView to squeeze more performance out of it. While Matrox activity is considerable (including John Carmack happily hacking) nobody is presently working on improving the nvidia driver. Personally I would rather continue porting apps or go for something esoteric like Mesa NURBS trimming than that driver, before I not know what Precision Insight is up to. This brings me to the issue of porting. Every new nice app is a win. I am glad QDraw runs nicely under FreeBSD (rolling a port is on my list :) and am waiting eagerly what GEL will look like. Then we have Flight Gear and Space Racer, which need at least some testing with the latest stuff. While I got Myth2 running, I would love to have a foolproof guide about setting up the Quake games under FreeBSD with the latest glx. For glide we have this one: http://www.cybernet.com/~mtaylor/q3ahowto.html http://www.schrade.com/sanctum/freebsd/ and for aalib this one :) http://webpages.mr.net/bobz/ttyquake/ http://webpages.mr.net/bobz/ttyquake/ss/TTYQuakeConsole.html If that is not enough I got a mail from a GGI folks who complained that we have not ported this non-X Mesa to FreeBSD. > Why are you guys > not porting LibGGI, GGIMesa and KGI to xBSD? All the code is free, > unencumbered by the GPL (we changed our license specifically to make porting > to xBSD possible) and works well now. It is all designed from the ground up > to be cross-platform, and I just recently wrote a GLX-to-GGIMesa API bridge > which allows Quake III to run unmodified under XGGI. This is something I will definitley look into this weekend. There goes another one.. :) Because I think it is important to know a bit about the history of what happened -to make sense of all I started to write up a timeline doc with links - at work I keep a HTML version, but this isn't finished either. Probably this weekend. Here is what I got so far: ------ - GL - [~1990?] ------ Aside from various academic efforts for a 3d API (like GKS) and special solutions (like in the field of CAD/CAM) a de-facto standard was established by Silicon Graphics [1] and its GL Graphics Library plus its line of IRIS UNIX workstations that were equiped with special hardware for fast GL rendering ("the more bucks, the more GL functionality cast into silicon"). Today it is rather refered as IRIS GL to set it apart from OpenGL. ---------- - OpenGL - [1992] ---------- In 1992 SGI opened up GL by releasing OpenGL [2] and moving control to the ARB [3] which present members are 3Dlabs, Compaq/Digital Equipment, Evans & Sutherland, Hewlett-Packard, IBM, Intel, Intergraph, Microsoft, Nvidia and SGI. Note that GL and OpenGL differ slightly [4,5]. -------- - Mesa - [Feb 1995] -------- In 1995 Brian Paul [6] started work on the Mesa library. To cite [7]: "Mesa is a 3-D graphics library with an API which is very similar to that of OpenGL. To the extent that Mesa utilizes the OpenGL command syntax or state machine, it is being used with authorization from Silicon Graphics, Inc(SGI)." ----------- - GLQuake - [1997?] ----------- After starting the 3d shooter game genre (and PC 3d craze in general) with the technical brilliant (while ethical questionable) Wolfenstein 3d and topping it with titles like Doom, Doom II and Quake, id Software [8] created an OpenGL version of Quake, helping enourmously to fight Microsofts proprietary DirectX 3d API [9] from overtaking the PC market. --------- - Glide - [March 1998] --------- The first big step towards accelerated 3d for the free UNIX systems has been taken by 3dfx [10] who released the specs [9] to their Glide API for their Voodoo series of 3d only cards. This led to a glide version of Mesa and finally a playable glquake [11, 12]. -------------------- - Open GLX efforts - [Mid 1998] -------------------- According to the XFree86 3D Status Report [13], efforts for an free implementation of GLX (the glue between OpenGL and the X windows system) started in 1998 with Steve Parker [14], then Henry Worth, Simon Pogarcic [15] and Terence Ripperda [16]. In February the open glx project starts. [17] ---------- - Matrox - [March 1999] ---------- The second big card maker, Matrox [18], released [19] specs to their G200 cards. ---------- - nvidia - [June 1999] ---------- Third of the big graphics board makers, nvidia releases an open source driver for the glx project. Around the same time they provide specs. (..) References [1] sgi http://www.sgi.com [2] OpenGL Architecture Review Board (ARB) http://www.sgi.com/software/opengl/faq.html#15 [3] OpenGL Architecture http://www.opengl.org/About/Architecture.html [4] OpenGL History http://www.sgi.com/software/opengl/glandx/intro/subsection3_1_2.html [5] OpenGL versus IRIS GL http://trant.sgi.com/opengl/docs/white_papers/ogl_vs_igl.html [6] Precision Insight Team (Brian Paul, http://www.precisioninsight.com/our_team.html [7] Mesa 3d Site http://www.mesa3d.org/#Introduction [8] id Software http://www.idsoftware.com/ [9] Microsoft DirectX http://www.microsoft.com/directx/ [10] 3dfx Interactive http://www.3dfx.com/ [11] 3Dfx Support Status http://glide.xxedgexx.com/status.html [12] The Mesa Voodoo GLQuake home page http://www-hmw.caribel.pisa.it/fxmesa/fxquake.html [13] XFree86 3D Status Report (cf GLX and XFree86) http://www.dpmms.cam.ac.uk/~werdna/XFree86-3D-status.html [14] The as-yet-unnamed implementation of the GLX protocol http://www.cs.utah.edu/~sparker/xfree86-3d/ [15] Simon Pogarcic http://www.suse.de/~sim/ [16] GLX Acceleration for XFree86 and Linux http://reality.sgi.com/ripperda_engr/glx/old_news.html3 [17] Open GLX Project http://glx.on.openprojects.net/ [18] Matrox http://www.matrox.com [19] Linux 3d News http://www.linux3d.org/news.html Good night! Marc P.S. I got the OpenGL green book and the brandnew 1.2 red book in my mail - excellent stuff! To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Thu Sep 9 17:27:34 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org Received: from rah.star-gate.com (216-200-29-190.snj0.flashcom.net [216.200.29.194]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1330615249 for ; Thu, 9 Sep 1999 17:27:29 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from hasty@rah.star-gate.com) Received: from rah.star-gate.com (localhost.star-gate.com [127.0.0.1]) by rah.star-gate.com (8.9.3/8.8.8) with ESMTP id RAA77293; Thu, 9 Sep 1999 17:23:47 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from hasty@rah.star-gate.com) Message-Id: <199909100023.RAA77293@rah.star-gate.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.2 2/24/98 To: van.woerkom@netcologne.de Cc: multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: New 3D software available In-reply-to: Your message of "Fri, 10 Sep 1999 02:24:28 +0200." <199909100024.CAA02216@oranje.my.domain> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Thu, 09 Sep 1999 17:23:47 -0700 From: Amancio Hasty Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi Guys, Don't worry . I will probably just compile X11R6 on RedHat 6.0 and see whats under the hood . It takes time for me to implement what I want so no rush . Cheers -- Amancio Hasty hasty@rah.star-gate.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Sat Sep 11 1: 1: 9 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org Received: from herring.nlsystems.com (nlsys.demon.co.uk [158.152.125.33]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CC68E14C14 for ; Sat, 11 Sep 1999 01:01:04 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dfr@nlsystems.com) Received: from salmon.nlsystems.com (salmon.nlsystems.com [10.0.0.3]) by herring.nlsystems.com (8.9.3/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA55744; Sat, 11 Sep 1999 09:02:27 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from dfr@nlsystems.com) Date: Sat, 11 Sep 1999 09:02:26 +0100 (BST) From: Doug Rabson To: Amancio Hasty Cc: multimedia Subject: Re: New 3D software available In-Reply-To: <199909091023.DAA64643@rah.star-gate.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Thu, 9 Sep 1999, Amancio Hasty wrote: > > I see . What I am after is providing yuv->rgb and scaling support . > What are your thoughts of using DRI to the job? You might be able to get some limited support for this from texturing hardware but there are likely to be limitations on source image size and dimensions (most texture hardware wants power-of-2 dimensions and often square images). -- Doug Rabson Mail: dfr@nlsystems.com Nonlinear Systems Ltd. Phone: +44 181 442 9037 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Sat Sep 11 3:33:55 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org Received: from fleming.cs.strath.ac.uk (fleming.cs.strath.ac.uk [130.159.196.126]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 07240153AB; Sat, 11 Sep 1999 03:33:49 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from roger@cs.strath.ac.uk) Received: from cs.strath.ac.uk (scary.dmem.strath.ac.uk [130.159.202.5]) by fleming.cs.strath.ac.uk (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA26932 Sat, 11 Sep 1999 11:33:47 +0100 (BST) Message-ID: <37DA303B.32828190@cs.strath.ac.uk> Date: Sat, 11 Sep 1999 11:34:35 +0100 From: Roger Hardiman Organization: Strathclyde University X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.51 [en] (X11; I; FreeBSD 3.3-RC i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: multimedia@freebsd.org, stable@freebsd.org Subject: Bt848 driver 1.73 released Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi, ************************************ * Bt848/Bt878 Driver 1.73 Released * ************************************ Bt848/Bt878 driver release 1.73 - 10th Sepetember 1999 is now available for download from the usual place at http://telepresence.dmem.strath.ac.uk/bt848 The driver will work with FreeBSD 2.2.5, 2.2.6, 2.2.7, 2.2.8, 2.2-stable, FreeBSD 3.0, 3.1, 3.2, 3.x-stable, and FreeBSD 4.x. It _should_ also work on BSDi, NetBSD and OpenBSD. Whats new since release 1.68 1) VBI support is now great. I strongly recomend the AleVT Teletext decode program in /usr/ports/misc/alevt There is no need to resize FXTV now. Just start Alevt, then start FXTV and teletext works great. 2) MSP3430 audio support. North American users of Hauppauge cards with MSP3430 DBX chips are supported. 3) Autodetect of new STB Bt878 cards. No audio support yet. 4) Support new Hauppauge Tuner types 5) Add Card Type for AIMs Labs Video Highway Xtreme. 6) Patches from NetBSD, OpenBSD, BSDi integrated. One source file for all OSs. NOTE On release 1.72 Release 1.72 is in 3.x-stable and will ship with FreeBSD 3.3-R. It lacks Hauppauge tuner type 6 and Video Highway Xtreme card types. 4.x-CURRENT. Release 1.73 is checked in to the source now, so you will get it in your next CVS update. Bye Roger -- Roger Hardiman Strathclyde Uni Telepresence Research Group, Glasgow, Scotland. http://telepresence.dmem.strath.ac.uk 0141 548 2897 roger@cs.strath.ac.uk To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Sat Sep 11 3:45:29 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org Received: from dialup124.zpr.uni-koeln.de (1-174.K.dial.o-tel-o.net [212.144.1.174]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 85ED614F63; Sat, 11 Sep 1999 03:45:24 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from se@zpr.uni-koeln.de) Received: by dialup124.zpr.uni-koeln.de (Postfix, from userid 200) id F3E8ED68; Sat, 11 Sep 1999 12:36:57 +0200 (CEST) Date: Sat, 11 Sep 1999 12:36:57 +0200 From: Stefan Esser To: Marc van Woerkom Cc: dfr@nlsystems.com, multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG, Stefan Esser Subject: Re: New 3D software available Message-ID: <19990911123657.C866@dialup124.zpr.uni-koeln.de> Reply-To: se@freebsd.org References: <199909042143.XAA12273@oranje.my.domain> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.6i In-Reply-To: <199909042143.XAA12273@oranje.my.domain>; from Marc van Woerkom on Sat, Sep 04, 1999 at 11:43:08PM +0200 Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On 1999-09-04 23:43 +0200, Marc van Woerkom wrote: > Hello Doug! > > So, I tried to build QDraw 0.5 under -CURRENT. > This is my recipe to get it compiled. > > Should I roll a port? Ummm, I have a completed port waiting for a week already, but had no time to commit it ... Regards, STefan To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Sat Sep 11 3:49:12 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org Received: from fleming.cs.strath.ac.uk (fleming.cs.strath.ac.uk [130.159.196.126]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B2C0014A0D for ; Sat, 11 Sep 1999 03:49:08 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from roger@cs.strath.ac.uk) Received: from cs.strath.ac.uk (scary.dmem.strath.ac.uk [130.159.202.5]) by fleming.cs.strath.ac.uk (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA27001 Sat, 11 Sep 1999 11:49:07 +0100 (BST) Message-ID: <37DA33D3.C2CEBF2E@cs.strath.ac.uk> Date: Sat, 11 Sep 1999 11:49:55 +0100 From: Roger Hardiman Organization: Strathclyde University X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.51 [en] (X11; I; FreeBSD 3.3-RC i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: multimedia@freebsd.org Subject: What is SAP TV audio standard - Bt848 driver Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi, I've got some info from AVerMedia for supporting SAP audio on their cards. However, as I live in the UK, where our stereo format is NICAM digial, I'm not too sure what SAP and DBX are all about. Could someone explain it. Thanks Roger -- Roger Hardiman Strathclyde Uni Telepresence Research Group, Glasgow, Scotland. http://telepresence.dmem.strath.ac.uk 0141 548 2897 roger@cs.strath.ac.uk To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Sat Sep 11 3:53:47 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org Received: from herring.nlsystems.com (nlsys.demon.co.uk [158.152.125.33]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0D5A614A0D; Sat, 11 Sep 1999 03:53:42 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dfr@nlsystems.com) Received: from salmon.nlsystems.com (salmon.nlsystems.com [10.0.0.3]) by herring.nlsystems.com (8.9.3/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA90303; Sat, 11 Sep 1999 11:55:16 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from dfr@nlsystems.com) Date: Sat, 11 Sep 1999 11:55:16 +0100 (BST) From: Doug Rabson To: Stefan Esser Cc: Marc van Woerkom , multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: New 3D software available In-Reply-To: <19990911123657.C866@dialup124.zpr.uni-koeln.de> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Sat, 11 Sep 1999, Stefan Esser wrote: > On 1999-09-04 23:43 +0200, Marc van Woerkom wrote: > > Hello Doug! > > > > So, I tried to build QDraw 0.5 under -CURRENT. > > This is my recipe to get it compiled. > > > > Should I roll a port? > > Ummm, I have a completed port waiting for a week already, but had no time > to commit it ... Cool! Can I see it? -- Doug Rabson Mail: dfr@nlsystems.com Nonlinear Systems Ltd. Phone: +44 181 442 9037 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Sat Sep 11 15:20:33 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org Received: from pluto.ipass.net (pluto.ipass.net [198.79.53.5]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7A44414D0E for ; Sat, 11 Sep 1999 15:20:29 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from rhh@ipass.net) Received: from stealth.ipass.net. (ppp-4-171.dialup.rdu.ipass.net [209.170.134.171]) by pluto.ipass.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id SAA12163; Sat, 11 Sep 1999 18:20:24 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from rhh@localhost) by stealth.ipass.net. (8.9.3/8.8.8) id SAA92646; Sat, 11 Sep 1999 18:21:29 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from rhh) Date: Sat, 11 Sep 1999 18:21:29 -0400 From: Randall Hopper To: thomas@hentschel.net Cc: multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: fxtv MPEG-audio encoding problems - mplex Message-ID: <19990911182129.A92181@ipass.net> References: <19990908213139.A61803@ipass.net> <199909090658.XAA02027@gate.hentschel.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.1i In-Reply-To: <199909090658.XAA02027@gate.hentschel.net>; from thomas@hentschel.net on Thu, Sep 09, 1999 at 12:03:51AM -0700 Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org thomas@hentschel.net: |got over that hump, now that the frame rate works I'm determined to |make the mpg encoding work. The video part works great, however the |audio part is still giving trouble. If I try encoding in mp3, the |following happens (on the console with -debug subproc) : | |::EXEC:: mplex test.mpg test.mp3 test.mps ... |*************************************************************** |* MPEG1/SYSTEMS Multiplexer * ... |* Release 1.1 (06.06.95) * |*************************************************************** | |File test.mpg is a 11172-2 Video stream. |File test.mp3 is a 11172-3 Audio stream. ... |Scanning Audio stream for access units information. |Segmentation fault - core dumped |::STATUS:: 139 | |Command Failed: | mplex test.mpg test.mp3 test.mps |Conversion Aborted. Ouch. mplex bug. |What strikes me as odd is that 24.000 frames/sec -- I set it to 10 |frames/sec in the dialog. That's normal. To create an MPEG-1 video stream, mpeg_encode requires the input frames to be in one of a handful of acceptable frame rates. So after capturing at 10, Fxtv uses a simple-minded algorithm to adjust the frame rate to a supported rate at or about the captured rate. |If I do encoding with mp2, the conversion finishes ok, but playing with |mtv or a ~doze player displays the video correctly, but the sound is just |a short *blop. I usually use MP2. From your experience, it looks like mplex doesn't reliably support MP3. I don't understand the short *blop. |When doing just audio recording, both mp2 and mp3 are ok, this makes me |think that the problem lies somewhere in mplex. I went thru the (somewhat |sparse) documentation of mplex, couldn't find anything useful.... |any idea ?? Hmm. I assume your MP2 plays just fine with mpg123 or your favorite MPEG audio player? Try these capture parameters and see what you get: Target: MPEG Ready Size: 320x240 ImgCapFmt: IYUV Speed: 15fps ImgEncFmt: YUV AudFmt: 44KHz 16-bit stereo enabled AudEncFmt: MPEG-2 Cleanup: Yes It'll generate a .sh script (e.g. my-video.sh). Run that script. You can uncheck Cleanup to force it to leave the intermediate files around. |Thanks for all the help so far, hope I didn't hit the annoyance |threshold yet -- Ok, good. Hope we can get you going. Randall To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Sat Sep 11 20:51:43 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org Received: from smtp5.mindspring.com (smtp5.mindspring.com [207.69.200.82]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F158014D69; Sat, 11 Sep 1999 20:51:40 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from stuyman@confusion.net) Received: from confusion.net (user-2iveb49.dialup.mindspring.com [165.247.44.137]) by smtp5.mindspring.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id XAA18454; Sat, 11 Sep 1999 23:51:38 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <37DB2319.B208609@confusion.net> Date: Sat, 11 Sep 1999 23:50:49 -0400 From: Laurence Berland Organization: B.R.A.T.T. X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (Win95; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: questions@freebsd.org, multimedia@freebsd.org Subject: PCI sound Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org What's the status of PCI sound under FreeBSD? LINT doesnt even mention them, and a search of the mailing lists makes some unclear mention that pcm0 supports a specific Soundblaster PCI soundcard. How's the support for PCI sound in general under both -current and 3.3? In particular the TurtleBeach montego 64? -- Laurence Berland, Stuyvesant HS Debate <><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><> Windows 98: n. useless extension to a minor patch release for 32-bit extensions and a graphical shell for a 16-bit patch to an 8-bit operating system originally coded for a 4-bit microprocessor, written by a 2-bit company that can't stand for 1 bit of competition. http://stuy.debate.net icq #7434346 aol imer E1101 The above email Copyright (C) 1999 Laurence Berland All rights reserved To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message