From owner-freebsd-newbies Mon Feb 1 00:20:53 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id AAA11413 for freebsd-newbies-outgoing; Mon, 1 Feb 1999 00:20:53 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from coiib.es ([195.76.52.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id AAA11322; Mon, 1 Feb 1999 00:20:34 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from janet9981@yahoo.com) From: janet9981@yahoo.com Received: from mirentxu.coiib.es by coiib.es (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id KAA03948; Mon, 1 Feb 1999 10:14:59 -0100 Message-Id: <199902011114.KAA03948@coiib.es> To: adsrtc@mtyisrot.com Date: Sun, 31 Jan 99 23:41:37 EST Subject: Maximize your website's traffic! Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Maximize your website's traffic. INCREASE YOUR SEARCH ENGINE RANK! If your Web site isn't getting the traffic it should, it's likely that it's not ranked well on the major Internet search engines. According to recent Internet E-commerce studies, over 90% of consumers find the Web sites they visit by using eight major search engines, which are Yahoo!, Excite, AltaVista, Infoseek, Lycos, Web Crawler, HotBot, and Northern Light. If your website isn't located in the top-30 listings of these engines, chances are your site will never be seen. The single most important thing you can do to increase your Web site's traffic is to increase your search engine ranking. ------------- "PUT YOUR NAME IN LIGHTS -- List your business with search engines to make sure potential customers can find it." -- BIZ Excite, PC Computing magazine, November 1998 ------------- THE BASICS: HOW SEARCH ENGINES RANK YOUR SITE When you submit your website to a search engine to be indexed in its database, it sends a "robot" to scan your page. Using complex algorithms to rank your page for keyword relevance, the "robot" determines whether you'll be ranked number 1 or 1,000,000 when potential visitors conduct a search looking for sites like yours. Because the search engines are constantly changing their algorithms to provide users with the best possible search results, there's only one true solution to high search engine placement--us. In short, submission alone isn't enough. *Good search engine ranking* is critical to your site's success. ------------- HERE'S WHAT WE DO -- A UNIQUE, SUCCESSFUL APPROACH In order to counter the ever-changing search engine algorithms, we create an entire series of "entry pages" that are optimized for the search engines--one for every keyword (or keyword phrase) that you provide. Each entry page is optimized for a different set of algorithm variables. In other words, instead of having only *one* page struggling to rank well on all engines, we create separate, search engine-specific entry pages for each keyword. As a result, your pages rank well because they contain information relevant to search queries that are related to your industry. ------------- HOW ENTRY PAGES AFFECT YOUR WEB SITE'S CURRENT STRUCTURE Put simply, they don't. When creating entry pages we *do not* make any changes to the existing structure, content, or functionality of your current site. The entry pages act as a welcome screen for your Web site when people enter from your highly ranked link on the search engine. The pages will say a few introductory words about your site, which are keyword and/or keyword phrase rich, and then provide a link that asks the visitor to "Click Here To Enter," which moves them directly to your current homepage. ------------ HERE'S WHAT WE DON'T *EVER* DO TO HELP YOUR SEARCH ENGINE RANK We *will not* build pages for irrelevant--yet "popular"--keywords. Also, we will *never* "spamdex" pages. "Spamdexing" is "stuffing" a Web page full of words for the search engine's robots. You may have seen spamdexing, which is placing many words in the same text color as a background onto a Web page. Spamdexing will actually get your pages "kicked" from search engine indexes. What we *will* do is simply present very relevant keywords for your site to the search engines in the way that they "like" to see it. ------------- "It's simple: If they can't find you on the search engines, they can't buy from you." -- J. LeRoss, Internet Sales Consultant ------------ HOW WELL DOES THE SERVICE WORK? We'll send you a detailed report of your current search engine ranking on "The Big Six" engines before we begin. Then, once your new entry pages have been indexed, we'll send you a second report showing how they've ranked. Here's a sampling of some results we've acheived for previous clients. (These examples are for competitive keywords--not just obscure words on which no one is conducting searches.) <> 6 top-10 rankings on Infoseek for different relevant keywords <> 18 top-10 rankings across the major search engines <> 3 top-10 rankings on Alta Vista for one keyword <> 16 total *number one* rankings <> 40 top-30 rankings, spread across the different engines. <> 1 to 2 hits per week increased to 500 per day <> 45,000 hits per month grew to 108,000. ------------ HOW MUCH DOES YOUR SERVICE COST? Our basic services start at only $385. The basic package includes: <> Construction of optimized entry pages for up to 20 keywords -- This gives you good "coverage" in your industry <> Submission of the keyword-dense entry pages to the "Big Six" search engines When you contact us, ask about other services we provide that may be able to help your Internet initiatives succeed. We have special services that can be tailored for your specific Internet marketing needs. ------------ HOW DO I GET STARTED? <> Call us--we'll answer any questions you may have and provide a no-cost initial consultation. (310) 859-4659 <> Submit your keywords and/or keyword phrases (up to 20) to us ------------ COMMENTS FROM CLIENTS "Frankly, I'm impressed with the foregoing. So many solicitations from email sources turn out to be a phone line that hooks up to a voice mail system that is designed to give the impression of size, and people who never return phone calls/messages. . . So its a pleasant surprise to find that someone at the other end is really operating as a business!!!" --Alan B. "Incredible! Our site is now receiving more hits in a day than we used to get in an entire month. [My boss] is still eating his words." -- Bob W. "I knew the search engines were a fantastic marketing tool, but my company simply didn't have the time to devote to search engine placement. It has proven to be the best money we've ever spent on marketing." -- Shelley H. "I worked for weeks to get good search engine placement, but I could never crack the top 80 . . . my site was deserted. Within a month [after using your service], I'd had more hits than I'd had in the last year. I wouldn't believe it if it hadn't happened to me." -- Chris L. ------------ OUR JOB: INCREASE YOUR WEB SITE'S RANKING. We can't guarantee that better ranking will increase the number of visitors that "surf" to your Web site. Some highly-ranked websites still don't get much traffic--much depends on your particular industry and choice of keywords. However, high rankings, in most cases, do mean increased Web site traffic. And, we have never failed to increase a client's ranking. Ever. ------------ CONTACT A REPRESENTATIVE: Search Engine Success Group - Call us at: (310) 859-4659 ----------------------- If you've received this message in error--and are not interested in our services--please click reply or call, (888)-248-2236, and we'll remove you from our list. Maximize your website's traffic. INCREASE YOUR SEARCH ENGINE RANK! If your Web site isn't getting the traffic it should, it's likely that it's not ranked well on the major Internet search engines. According to recent Internet E-commerce studies, over 90% of consumers find the Web sites they visit by using eight major search engines, which are Yahoo!, Excite, AltaVista, Infoseek, Lycos, Web Crawler, HotBot, and Northern Light. If your website isn't located in the top-30 listings of these engines, chances are your site will never be seen. The single most important thing you can do to increase your Web site's traffic is to increase your search engine ranking. ------------- "PUT YOUR NAME IN LIGHTS -- List your business with search engines to make sure potential customers can find it." -- BIZ Excite, PC Computing magazine, November 1998 ------------- THE BASICS: HOW SEARCH ENGINES RANK YOUR SITE When you submit your website to a search engine to be indexed in its database, it sends a "robot" to scan your page. Using complex algorithms to rank your page for keyword relevance, the "robot" determines whether you'll be ranked number 1 or 1,000,000 when potential visitors conduct a search looking for sites like yours. Because the search engines are constantly changing their algorithms to provide users with the best possible search results, there's only one true solution to high search engine placement--us. In short, submission alone isn't enough. *Good search engine ranking* is critical to your site's success. ------------- HERE'S WHAT WE DO -- A UNIQUE, SUCCESSFUL APPROACH In order to counter the ever-changing search engine algorithms, we create an entire series of "entry pages" that are optimized for the search engines--one for every keyword (or keyword phrase) that you provide. Each entry page is optimized for a different set of algorithm variables. In other words, instead of having only *one* page struggling to rank well on all engines, we create separate, search engine-specific entry pages for each keyword. As a result, your pages rank well because they contain information relevant to search queries that are related to your industry. ------------- HOW ENTRY PAGES AFFECT YOUR WEB SITE'S CURRENT STRUCTURE Put simply, they don't. When creating entry pages we *do not* make any changes to the existing structure, content, or functionality of your current site. The entry pages act as a welcome screen for your Web site when people enter from your highly ranked link on the search engine. The pages will say a few introductory words about your site, which are keyword and/or keyword phrase rich, and then provide a link that asks the visitor to "Click Here To Enter," which moves them directly to your current homepage. ------------ HERE'S WHAT WE DON'T *EVER* DO TO HELP YOUR SEARCH ENGINE RANK We *will not* build pages for irrelevant--yet "popular"--keywords. Also, we will *never* "spamdex" pages. "Spamdexing" is "stuffing" a Web page full of words for the search engine's robots. You may have seen spamdexing, which is placing many words in the same text color as a background onto a Web page. Spamdexing will actually get your pages "kicked" from search engine indexes. What we *will* do is simply present very relevant keywords for your site to the search engines in the way that they "like" to see it. ------------- "It's simple: If they can't find you on the search engines, they can't buy from you." -- J. LeRoss, Internet Sales Consultant ------------ HOW WELL DOES THE SERVICE WORK? We'll send you a detailed report of your current search engine ranking on "The Big Six" engines before we begin. Then, once your new entry pages have been indexed, we'll send you a second report showing how they've ranked. Here's a sampling of some results we've acheived for previous clients. (These examples are for competitive keywords--not just obscure words on which no one is conducting searches.) <> 6 top-10 rankings on Infoseek for different relevant keywords <> 18 top-10 rankings across the major search engines <> 3 top-10 rankings on Alta Vista for one keyword <> 16 total *number one* rankings <> 40 top-30 rankings, spread across the different engines. <> 1 to 2 hits per week increased to 500 per day <> 45,000 hits per month grew to 108,000. ------------ HOW MUCH DOES YOUR SERVICE COST? Our basic services start at only $385. The basic package includes: <> Construction of optimized entry pages for up to 20 keywords -- This gives you good "coverage" in your industry <> Submission of the keyword-dense entry pages to the "Big Six" search engines When you contact us, ask about other services we provide that may be able to help your Internet initiatives succeed. We have special services that can be tailored for your specific Internet marketing needs. ------------ HOW DO I GET STARTED? <> Call us--we'll answer any questions you may have and provide a no-cost initial consultation. (888) 283-2050 <> Submit your keywords and/or keyword phrases (up to 20) to us ------------ COMMENTS FROM CLIENTS "Frankly, I'm impressed with the foregoing. So many solicitations from email sources turn out to be a phone line that hooks up to a voice mail system that is designed to give the impression of size, and people who never return phone calls/messages. . . So its a pleasant surprise to find that someone at the other end is really operating as a business!!!" --Alan B. "Incredible! Our site is now receiving more hits in a day than we used to get in an entire month. [My boss] is still eating his words." -- Bob W. "I knew the search engines were a fantastic marketing tool, but my company simply didn't have the time to devote to search engine placement. It has proven to be the best money we've ever spent on marketing." -- Shelley H. "I worked for weeks to get good search engine placement, but I could never crack the top 80 . . . my site was deserted. Within a month [after using your service], I'd had more hits than I'd had in the last year. I wouldn't believe it if it hadn't happened to me." -- Chris L. ------------ OUR JOB: INCREASE YOUR WEB SITE'S RANKING. We can't guarantee that better ranking will increase the number of visitors that "surf" to your Web site. Some highly-ranked websites still don't get much traffic--much depends on your particular industry and choice of keywords. However, high rankings, in most cases, do mean increased Web site traffic. And, we have never failed to increase a client's ranking. Ever. ------------ CONTACT A REPRESENTATIVE: Search Engine Success Group - Call us at: (888) 283-2050 ----------------------- If you've received this message in error--and are not interested in our services--please click reply or call, (888)-248-2236, and we'll remove you from our list. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Tue Feb 2 18:40:07 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id SAA26024 for freebsd-newbies-outgoing; Tue, 2 Feb 1999 18:40:07 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from saucer.infostrm.com ([216.37.30.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id SAA26016 for ; Tue, 2 Feb 1999 18:40:03 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from angrick@netdirect.net) Received: from masterx (p15-term2-indy.netdirect.net [204.248.210.84]) by saucer.infostrm.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id VAA16602 for ; Tue, 2 Feb 1999 21:22:52 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from angrick@netdirect.net) Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.19990202212541.00e267d0@netdirect.net> X-Sender: angrick@netdirect.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.6 (32) Date: Tue, 02 Feb 1999 21:25:41 -0500 To: freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG From: Andrew Angrick Subject: Re: First commands In-Reply-To: <3.0.1.32.19990204182631.006978b8@we.mediaone.net> References: <199810051735.KAA00651@pau-amma.whistle.com> <19981005102413.55925@welearn.com.au> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Speaking of ee.... sort of off the subject but it really bugs me. When I telnet into the server, the up and down/left and right arrows don't work. I have to use cntrl-d for down...etc...When you're at the server everything is fine of course...Anyone have any ideas. -Andy At 06:26 PM 2/4/99 -0800, you wrote: >At 10:35 AM 10/5/98 -0700, David Wolfskill wrote: >>I also have never found a use for "ee", but then, I've been using "vi" >>(& other editors with a similar heritage) since '86. Still, for anyone >>who is likely to be working with any other flavors of UNIX, I would be >>*very* hard-pressed to recommend spending the time to learn "ee". > >"the time to learn ee"? I think that most people could spare a minute >(literally) to look over the control commands on the top of the "ee" >screen. It's really not hard to use, and for newbies that's a definate plus. > >Joey bear Garcia > >>-- >>David Wolfskill UNIX System Administrator >>dhw@whistle.com voice: (650) 577-7158 pager: (650) 371-4621 > > >To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org >with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Wed Feb 3 07:48:37 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id HAA27222 for freebsd-newbies-outgoing; Wed, 3 Feb 1999 07:48:37 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from pop01.globecomm.net (pop01.globecomm.net [206.253.129.185]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id HAA27214 for ; Wed, 3 Feb 1999 07:48:34 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from zen@buddhist.com) Received: from WhizKid (r8.bfm.org [208.18.213.104]) by pop01.globecomm.net (8.9.0/8.8.0) with SMTP id KAA28475; Wed, 3 Feb 1999 10:48:21 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.19990203090551.008a65a0@mail.bfm.org> X-Sender: Stanislav@mail.bfm.org X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.6 (32) Date: Wed, 03 Feb 1999 09:05:51 -0600 To: Andrew Angrick , freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG From: "G. Adam Stanislav" Subject: Re: First commands In-Reply-To: <3.0.6.32.19990202212541.00e267d0@netdirect.net> References: <3.0.1.32.19990204182631.006978b8@we.mediaone.net> <199810051735.KAA00651@pau-amma.whistle.com> <19981005102413.55925@welearn.com.au> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org At 21:25 02-02-1999 -0500, Andrew Angrick wrote: >Speaking of ee.... >sort of off the subject but it really bugs me. >When I telnet into the server, the up and down/left and right arrows don't >work. I have to use cntrl-d for down...etc...When you're at the server >everything is fine of course...Anyone have any ideas. Hi, Andy. I have had the same problem. This is because when you use telnet, the arrow keys are converted to escape sequences for terminal emulation. Personally, I simply pulled out my vi reference and use vi over telnet, while still using ee locally (except for writing make files which must contain tabs that ee would convert to spaces). I guess this is a perfect excuse to finally learn vi. :-) I wonder if there is some configuration file that would allow us to convert the terminal emulation back to arrow keys at the remote system. There probably is a way, but I am still too much of a newbie to know what it is. Adam --- Got a FreeBSD web site? Get GCL from http://www.whizkidtech.net/gcl/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Thu Feb 4 06:40:07 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id GAA23516 for freebsd-newbies-outgoing; Thu, 4 Feb 1999 06:40:07 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from relay3.smtp.psi.net (relay3.smtp.psi.net [38.8.210.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id GAA23510 for ; Thu, 4 Feb 1999 06:40:06 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from iramiller@pbsltd.com) Received: from [38.221.229.3] (helo=pbspdc.pbsltd.com) by relay3.smtp.psi.net with esmtp (Exim 1.90 #1) for freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org id 108Pwq-0004Zb-00; Thu, 4 Feb 1999 09:40:05 -0500 Received: by PBSPDC with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9) id ; Thu, 4 Feb 1999 09:35:53 -0500 Message-ID: From: ira miller To: "'freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org'" Subject: un-tarring a file? Date: Thu, 4 Feb 1999 09:35:47 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hello, Sorry to bother everyone again, but I have followed the instructions in the man pages and can't get this to work. I downloaded netscape navigator standalone, the file name is: navigator-v408-export.x86-unknown-freebsd.tar It was also with a .gz, but I was able to unzip that with the gunzip utility, following the instructions. Now I have the tar file, and I've been trying the following: Eco1# tar -x navigator-v408-export.x86-unknown-freebsd.tar It responds with : Tar: can't open /dev/rst0 : Device not configured. Can anyone help? I finally got my freebsd box on the network, I can ftp and telnet and ping, but I'd like to actually load a program or two on the machine also. :-) Thanks, Ira Miller To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Thu Feb 4 07:49:10 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id HAA03975 for freebsd-newbies-outgoing; Thu, 4 Feb 1999 07:49:10 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from maciek.gv.edu.pl (netserv.gv.edu.pl [195.117.86.8]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id HAA03930 for ; Thu, 4 Feb 1999 07:48:48 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from andrzej@maciek.gv.edu.pl) Received: from localhost (andrzej@localhost) by maciek.gv.edu.pl (8.9.2/8.9.1) with SMTP id QAA24357; Thu, 4 Feb 1999 16:48:38 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from andrzej@maciek.gv.edu.pl) Date: Thu, 4 Feb 1999 16:48:38 +0100 (CET) From: Andrzej Szydlo To: ira miller cc: "'freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org'" Subject: Re: un-tarring a file? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Thu, 4 Feb 1999, ira miller wrote: > Hello, > Sorry to bother everyone again, but I have followed the instructions > in the man pages and can't get this to work. I downloaded netscape > navigator standalone, the file name is: > > > navigator-v408-export.x86-unknown-freebsd.tar > > It was also with a .gz, but I was able to unzip that with the gunzip > utility, following the instructions. Now I have the tar file, and I've been > trying the following: > > Eco1# tar -x navigator-v408-export.x86-unknown-freebsd.tar > You need tar xf filename.tar Andrzej To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Thu Feb 4 08:02:13 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA05912 for freebsd-newbies-outgoing; Thu, 4 Feb 1999 08:02:13 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from Pegasus.cc.ucf.edu (Pegasus.cc.ucf.edu [132.170.240.30]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA05878 for ; Thu, 4 Feb 1999 08:02:10 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from ewayte@mail.ucf.edu) Received: from mail.ucf.edu ([132.170.243.150]:4610 "HELO mail.ucf.edu" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE") by pegasus.cc.ucf.edu with SMTP id <77623-11204>; Thu, 4 Feb 1999 10:59:08 -0500 Received: from ucf-mc-Message_Server by mail.ucf.edu with Novell_GroupWise; Thu, 04 Feb 1999 11:01:38 -0500 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise 5.5 Date: Thu, 04 Feb 1999 11:01:12 -0500 From: "Eric Wayte" To: , Subject: Re: un-tarring a file? Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org This command should do the trick: tar xvf navigator-v408-export.x86-unknown-freebsd.tar If you followed the instructions from Netscape, you would have used this command to unzip and untar in one step: gzip -dc filename | tar -xvf - RTFM: http://home.netscape.com/download/install_instructions.html Eric Wayte Database Administrator University of Central Florida ewayte@mail.ucf.edu >>> ira miller 2/4/99 09:35:47 >>> Hello, Sorry to bother everyone again, but I have followed the instructions in the man pages and can't get this to work. I downloaded netscape navigator standalone, the file name is: navigator-v408-export.x86-unknown-freebsd.tar It was also with a .gz, but I was able to unzip that with the gunzip utility, following the instructions. Now I have the tar file, and I've been trying the following: Eco1# tar -x navigator-v408-export.x86-unknown-freebsd.tar It responds with : Tar: can't open /dev/rst0 : Device not configured. Can anyone help? I finally got my freebsd box on the network, I can ftp and telnet and ping, but I'd like to actually load a program or two on the machine also. :-) Thanks, Ira Miller To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Thu Feb 4 08:23:53 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA09507 for freebsd-newbies-outgoing; Thu, 4 Feb 1999 08:23:53 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from toxic.magnesium.net (toxic.magnesium.net [204.188.6.238]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id IAA09485 for ; Thu, 4 Feb 1999 08:23:43 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from unfurl@toxic.magnesium.net) Received: (qmail 37166 invoked by uid 1001); 4 Feb 1999 16:22:26 -0000 Date: 4 Feb 1999 08:22:26 -0800 Date: Thu, 4 Feb 1999 08:22:26 -0800 From: Unfurl To: freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: un-tarring a file? Message-ID: <19990204082226.A37139@dub.net> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.1i In-Reply-To: ; from Andrzej Szydlo on Thu, Feb 04, 1999 at 04:48:38PM +0100 Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org In the future you dont have to gunzip it first. One of the features of the GNU based tar is builtin gzip support. This would have worked from the start: "tar -zxvf filename.tar.gz" or "tar -zxvf filename.tgz" It will work on either extension. The "v" is for verbose and shows you the file names as they come out of the tarball. Another handy command is: "tar -tf filename.tar" or "tar -ztf filename.tar.gz" The "t" makes tar list all the files but not actually untar them ;) Happy tarring. -Bill On Thu, Feb 04, 1999 at 04:48:38PM +0100, Andrzej Szydlo wrote: > > > On Thu, 4 Feb 1999, ira miller wrote: > > > Hello, > > Sorry to bother everyone again, but I have followed the instructions > > in the man pages and can't get this to work. I downloaded netscape > > navigator standalone, the file name is: > > > > > > navigator-v408-export.x86-unknown-freebsd.tar > > > > It was also with a .gz, but I was able to unzip that with the gunzip > > utility, following the instructions. Now I have the tar file, and I've been > > trying the following: > > > > Eco1# tar -x navigator-v408-export.x86-unknown-freebsd.tar > > > > You need > > tar xf filename.tar > > Andrzej > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message -- unfurl@dub.net - This is a munition. Fight Back! #!/bin/perl -sp0777i Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA14333 for freebsd-newbies-outgoing; Thu, 4 Feb 1999 08:52:15 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from isis.dynip.com ([139.141.220.25]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA14165 for ; Thu, 4 Feb 1999 08:51:54 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from root@isis.dynip.com) From: root@isis.dynip.com Received: (from root@localhost) by isis.dynip.com (8.9.2/8.9.1) id TAA04723 for freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org; Thu, 4 Feb 1999 19:51:22 +0300 (AST) (envelope-from root) Message-Id: <199902041651.TAA04723@isis.dynip.com> Date: Thu, 4 Feb 1999 19:51:10 +0300 (AST) Reply-To: root@isis.dynip.com Subject: Strange Question To: freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/plain; CHARSET=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org (High) Newbies, Can any one tell me what's the relation between FreeBSD and Pink Floyd Thanks. -- - MAY THE FORCE BE WITH YOU. ~o .^. ---------------------------- ___ o~ .00 ) Static Email : osiris2002@yahoo.com /| o~ /)( Bouncing Email : root@isis.dynip.com / | | \ Web Site : http://isis.dynip.com:80 (Frames) ___/ | / \ Anon FTP Site : ftp://isis.dynip.com:21 (anonymous) | /''___/ / | Gopher Site : gopher://isis.dynip.com:70 | /'''/___/ | Network News : isis.dynip.com (Read, Post, Xfer) __|/'''/ Mailing Lists : majordomo@isis.dynip.com (public) pgp key : finger root@isis.dynip.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Thu Feb 4 08:52:28 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA14383 for freebsd-newbies-outgoing; Thu, 4 Feb 1999 08:52:28 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from daimler-benz.com (pluto1.str.daimler-benz.com [53.122.2.31]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA14360 for ; Thu, 4 Feb 1999 08:52:21 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from norbert.meissner@daimlerchrysler.com) Received: by daimler-benz.com; id RAA15297; Thu, 4 Feb 1999 17:46:48 +0100 (MET) Received: from unknown(53.113.192.11) by pluto.daimler-benz.com via smap (3.2) id xma015268; Thu, 4 Feb 99 17:46:34 +0100 Received: by S97H1H01 with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) id <12BL8JXR>; Thu, 4 Feb 1999 17:55:22 +0100 Message-ID: From: "Meissner, Norbert" To: "'ira miller'" Cc: "'freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org'" Subject: AW: un-tarring a file? Date: Thu, 4 Feb 1999 17:51:59 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by hub.freebsd.org id IAA14373 Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi ira, no problem, just try tar xvf navigator-v408-export.x86-unknown-freebsd.tar the options are 'x' for extract, 'v' to see what's in the archive (and what tar is doing) nad 'f' for file. tar expects it's target for default at a tape (here the device /dev/rst0). you have to tell tar to look in a file! Greetings from Germany Norbert > -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- > Von: ira miller [SMTP:iramiller@pbsltd.com] > Gesendet am: Donnerstag, 4. Februar 1999 15:36 > An: 'freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org' > Betreff: un-tarring a file? > > Hello, > Sorry to bother everyone again, but I have followed the instructions > in the man pages and can't get this to work. I downloaded netscape > navigator standalone, the file name is: > > > navigator-v408-export.x86-unknown-freebsd.tar > > It was also with a .gz, but I was able to unzip that with the gunzip > utility, following the instructions. Now I have the tar file, and I've > been > trying the following: > > Eco1# tar -x navigator-v408-export.x86-unknown-freebsd.tar > > It responds with : > > Tar: can't open /dev/rst0 : Device not configured. > > Can anyone help? I finally got my freebsd box on the network, I can ftp > and > telnet and ping, but I'd like to actually load a program or two on the > machine also. :-) > > > > Thanks, > > Ira Miller > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Thu Feb 4 08:57:54 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA15517 for freebsd-newbies-outgoing; Thu, 4 Feb 1999 08:57:54 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from daimler-benz.com (pluto1.str.daimler-benz.com [53.122.2.31]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA15486 for ; Thu, 4 Feb 1999 08:57:46 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from norbert.meissner@daimlerchrysler.com) Received: by daimler-benz.com; id RAA15767; Thu, 4 Feb 1999 17:52:03 +0100 (MET) Received: from unknown(53.113.192.12) by pluto.daimler-benz.com via smap (3.2) id xmaa15744; Thu, 4 Feb 99 17:51:40 +0100 Received: by S97H1H02 with Internet Mail Service (5.5.1960.3) id <12BL540M>; Thu, 4 Feb 1999 18:00:36 +0100 Message-ID: From: "Meissner, Norbert" To: "'Eric Wayte'" , freebsd-newbies , iramiller Subject: AW: un-tarring a file? Date: Thu, 4 Feb 1999 17:57:03 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.1960.3) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by hub.freebsd.org id IAA15502 Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org grin try tar xvzf navigator-v408-export.x86-unknown-freebsd.tar.gz and you don't need the pipe. Greetings from Germany Norbert > -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- > Von: Eric Wayte [SMTP:ewayte@mail.ucf.edu] > Gesendet am: Donnerstag, 4. Februar 1999 17:01 > An: freebsd-newbies; iramiller > Betreff: Re: un-tarring a file? > > This command should do the trick: > > tar xvf navigator-v408-export.x86-unknown-freebsd.tar > > If you followed the instructions from Netscape, you would have used > this command to unzip and untar in one step: > > gzip -dc filename | tar -xvf - > > RTFM: http://home.netscape.com/download/install_instructions.html > > Eric Wayte > Database Administrator > University of Central Florida > ewayte@mail.ucf.edu > > > >>> ira miller 2/4/99 09:35:47 >>> > Hello, > Sorry to bother everyone again, but I have followed the > instructions > in the man pages and can't get this to work. I downloaded netscape > navigator standalone, the file name is: > > > navigator-v408-export.x86-unknown-freebsd.tar > > It was also with a .gz, but I was able to unzip that with the gunzip > utility, following the instructions. Now I have the tar file, and > I've > been > trying the following: > > Eco1# tar -x navigator-v408-export.x86-unknown-freebsd.tar > > It responds with : > > Tar: can't open /dev/rst0 : Device not configured. > > Can anyone help? I finally got my freebsd box on the network, I can > ftp and > telnet and ping, but I'd like to actually load a program or two on the > machine also. :-) > > > > Thanks, > > Ira Miller > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Thu Feb 4 11:16:25 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA05182 for freebsd-newbies-outgoing; Thu, 4 Feb 1999 11:16:25 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from tekincisnts-4.teklogix.com ([207.219.2.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA05177 for ; Thu, 4 Feb 1999 11:16:23 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mpoulin@honk.org) Received: from INCISWNT-428 ([10.64.5.198]) by tekincisnts-4.teklogix.com with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.1960.3) id 1JRV53SS; Thu, 4 Feb 1999 14:16:19 -0500 Message-Id: <3.0.3.32.19990204141619.0090d300@spectre.honk.org> X-Sender: mpoulin@spectre.honk.org X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.3 (32) Date: Thu, 04 Feb 1999 14:16:19 -0500 To: freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG From: "M. Poulin" Subject: Re: Strange Question In-Reply-To: <199902041651.TAA04723@isis.dynip.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org OK, I'll bite. I don't know. What is the relation between FreeBSD and Pink Floyd? M. At 07:51 PM 2/4/99 +0300, root@isis.dynip.com wrote: >(High) Newbies, >Can any one tell me what's the relation between FreeBSD and Pink Floyd >Thanks. >-- >- MAY THE FORCE BE WITH YOU. ~o .^. >---------------------------- ___ o~ .00 ) >Static Email : osiris2002@yahoo.com /| o~ /)( >Bouncing Email : root@isis.dynip.com / | | \ >Web Site : http://isis.dynip.com:80 (Frames) ___/ | / \ >Anon FTP Site : ftp://isis.dynip.com:21 (anonymous) | /''___/ / | >Gopher Site : gopher://isis.dynip.com:70 | /'''/___/ | >Network News : isis.dynip.com (Read, Post, Xfer) __|/'''/ >Mailing Lists : majordomo@isis.dynip.com (public) >pgp key : finger root@isis.dynip.com > > >To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org >with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Thu Feb 4 11:29:11 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA07009 for freebsd-newbies-outgoing; Thu, 4 Feb 1999 11:29:11 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from jason05.u.washington.edu (jason05.u.washington.edu [140.142.78.6]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA07002 for ; Thu, 4 Feb 1999 11:29:06 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from durang@u.washington.edu) Received: from goodall2.u.washington.edu (durang@goodall2.u.washington.edu [140.142.12.168]) by jason05.u.washington.edu (8.9.1+UW98.09/8.9.1+UW98.09) with ESMTP id LAA16854; Thu, 4 Feb 1999 11:29:03 -0800 Received: from localhost (durang@localhost) by goodall2.u.washington.edu (8.9.1+UW98.09/8.9.1+UW98.09) with ESMTP id LAA24634; Thu, 4 Feb 1999 11:29:03 -0800 Date: Thu, 4 Feb 1999 11:29:02 -0800 (PST) From: "K. Marsh" To: root@isis.dynip.com cc: freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Strange Question In-Reply-To: <199902041651.TAA04723@isis.dynip.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Thu, 4 Feb 1999 root@isis.dynip.com wrote: > (High) Newbies, > Can any one tell me what's the relation between FreeBSD and Pink Floyd > Thanks. Hmmmm. That's a good question. Let's see. Get your filthy hands off my computer ------------------------------------- Microsoft took PC's by storm, Bill Gates took all the cash, Windows became a very unruly hack, FreeBSD, overnight it seemed, crawled out from the ruins, Apparently, to take the PC's back. Kenneth J. Marsh University of Washington durang@u.washington.edu Chemical Engineering To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Thu Feb 4 11:40:51 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA09206 for freebsd-newbies-outgoing; Thu, 4 Feb 1999 11:40:51 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from jason05.u.washington.edu (jason05.u.washington.edu [140.142.78.6]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA09199 for ; Thu, 4 Feb 1999 11:40:47 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from durang@u.washington.edu) Received: from goodall2.u.washington.edu (durang@goodall2.u.washington.edu [140.142.12.168]) by jason05.u.washington.edu (8.9.1+UW98.09/8.9.1+UW98.09) with ESMTP id LAA18612; Thu, 4 Feb 1999 11:40:46 -0800 Received: from localhost (durang@localhost) by goodall2.u.washington.edu (8.9.1+UW98.09/8.9.1+UW98.09) with ESMTP id LAA24206; Thu, 4 Feb 1999 11:40:45 -0800 Date: Thu, 4 Feb 1999 11:40:45 -0800 (PST) From: "K. Marsh" To: ira miller cc: "'freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org'" Subject: Re: un-tarring a file? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Thu, 4 Feb 1999, ira miller wrote: > Sorry to bother everyone again, but I have followed the instructions > in the man pages and can't get this to work. I downloaded netscape > navigator standalone, the file name is: > > navigator-v408-export.x86-unknown-freebsd.tar > > It was also with a .gz, but I was able to unzip that with the gunzip > utility, following the instructions. I've always had an easy time installing the navigator by putting that file, still gzipped into /usr/ports/distfiles, and then going to /usr/ports/www/netscape4 and doing "make install" Has something changed? Has it become more complicated? By the way, the newbies list isn't for tech-support-type questions, even if they are newbie questions. freebsd-newbies is for discussion. It seems a little counter-intuitive. I immediately thought to myself, upon seeing that there was a newbie list, "Oh, great, a place to ask those everyone-knows-but-me dipshit newbie questions." But those of us who subscribe to this list get a regular reminder that we aren't supposed to let it become so. Kenneth J. Marsh University of Washington durang@u.washington.edu Chemical Engineering To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Thu Feb 4 12:58:52 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA20808 for freebsd-newbies-outgoing; Thu, 4 Feb 1999 12:58:52 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from cato.admin.kth.se (cato.admin.kth.se [130.237.32.32]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA20800 for ; Thu, 4 Feb 1999 12:58:49 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jrhoads@lector.kth.se) Received: from lector_gw (gateway.lector.kth.se [130.237.31.136]) by cato.admin.kth.se (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id VAA02859 for ; Thu, 4 Feb 1999 21:58:42 +0100 (MET) From: jrhoads@lector.kth.se (Jill Rhoads) To: freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG (freebsd-newbies) Date: Thu, 4 Feb 1999 20:56:24 +0100 Subject: Making ports passive Message-ID: Organization: KTH MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-ID: X-Gateway: NASTA Gate 2.0 for FirstClass(R) Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org How do you make the ports collection passively ftp files? Can you even do it? Can you do it without having to change every Makefile that you intend to install? I'm sitting on an ISDN line that loves passive transfers. /Jill /*------------------------------------------------------*/ Jill Rhoads d97-jrh@d.kth.se http://www.d.kth.se/~d97-jrh e-post:jrhoads@lector.kth.se /*------------------------------------------------------*/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Thu Feb 4 14:42:22 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA04706 for freebsd-newbies-outgoing; Thu, 4 Feb 1999 14:42:22 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from cc942873-a.ewndsr1.nj.home.com (cc942873-a.ewndsr1.nj.home.com [24.2.89.207]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA04697 for ; Thu, 4 Feb 1999 14:42:17 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from cjc@cc942873-a.ewndsr1.nj.home.com) Received: (from cjc@localhost) by cc942873-a.ewndsr1.nj.home.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) id RAA13013; Thu, 4 Feb 1999 17:43:46 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from cjc) From: "Crist J. Clark" Message-Id: <199902042243.RAA13013@cc942873-a.ewndsr1.nj.home.com> Subject: Re: Making ports passive In-Reply-To: from Jill Rhoads at "Feb 4, 99 08:56:24 pm" To: jrhoads@lector.kth.se (Jill Rhoads) Date: Thu, 4 Feb 1999 17:43:46 -0500 (EST) Cc: freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Reply-To: cjclark@home.com X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL40 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Jill Rhoads wrote, > How do you make the ports collection passively ftp files? Can you even > do it? Can you do it without having to change every Makefile that you > intend to install? I'm sitting on an ISDN line that loves passive > transfers. Uncomment the following line from /etc/make.conf, --- SNIP --- # If you are running behind a firewall, uncomment the following to leave a # hint for various make-spawned utilities that they should use passive FTP. # FTP_PASSIVE_MODE= YES # --- SNIP -- HTH. -- Crist J. Clark cjclark@home.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Thu Feb 4 17:20:19 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id RAA26866 for freebsd-newbies-outgoing; Thu, 4 Feb 1999 17:20:19 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from phoenix.welearn.com.au (phoenix.welearn.com.au [139.130.44.81] (may be forged)) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id RAA26851; Thu, 4 Feb 1999 17:20:13 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from sue@phoenix.welearn.com.au) Received: (from sue@localhost) by phoenix.welearn.com.au (8.9.1/8.9.0) id MAA03298; Fri, 5 Feb 1999 12:20:06 +1100 (EST) Message-ID: <19990205121957.39576@welearn.com.au> Date: Fri, 5 Feb 1999 12:19:58 +1100 From: Sue Blake To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Cc: Jill Rhoads Subject: [jrhoads@lector.kth.se: Making ports passive] Reply-To: Jill Rhoads Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.88e Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi Jill, I'm forwarding this to the support mailing list which is freebsd-questions@freebsd.org. You should get some email replies from there, and the answers will become available at http://www.freebsd.org/search.html for others who have a similar question in the future. -----Forwarded message from Jill Rhoads ----- From: jrhoads@lector.kth.se (Jill Rhoads) To: freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG (freebsd-newbies) Date: Thu, 4 Feb 1999 20:56:24 +0100 Subject: Making ports passive How do you make the ports collection passively ftp files? Can you even do it? Can you do it without having to change every Makefile that you intend to install? I'm sitting on an ISDN line that loves passive transfers. /Jill /*------------------------------------------------------*/ Jill Rhoads d97-jrh@d.kth.se http://www.d.kth.se/~d97-jrh e-post:jrhoads@lector.kth.se /*------------------------------------------------------*/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message -----End of forwarded message----- -- Regards, -*Sue*- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Thu Feb 4 21:41:44 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id VAA29190 for freebsd-newbies-outgoing; Thu, 4 Feb 1999 21:41:44 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from lsmls02.we.mediaone.net (lsmls02.we.mediaone.net [24.130.1.15]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id VAA29183 for ; Thu, 4 Feb 1999 21:41:43 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gummibear@we.mediaone.net) From: gummibear@we.mediaone.net Received: from ale (we-24-130-60-145.we.mediaone.net [24.130.60.145]) by lsmls02.we.mediaone.net (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id VAA28871; Thu, 4 Feb 1999 21:41:38 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.19990204212943.007af810@we.mediaone.net> X-Sender: gummibear@we.mediaone.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.6 (32) Date: Thu, 04 Feb 1999 21:29:43 -0800 To: root@isis.dynip.com, freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Strange Question In-Reply-To: <199902041651.TAA04723@isis.dynip.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org hmm, is it FreeBSD is cool, and Free LSD is cool? (especially while listening to Pink Floyd) *shrug* Joey At 07:51 PM 2/4/99 +0300, root@isis.dynip.com wrote: >(High) Newbies, >Can any one tell me what's the relation between FreeBSD and Pink Floyd >Thanks. >-- >- MAY THE FORCE BE WITH YOU. ~o .^. >---------------------------- ___ o~ .00 ) >Static Email : osiris2002@yahoo.com /| o~ /)( >Bouncing Email : root@isis.dynip.com / | | \ >Web Site : http://isis.dynip.com:80 (Frames) ___/ | / \ >Anon FTP Site : ftp://isis.dynip.com:21 (anonymous) | /''___/ / | >Gopher Site : gopher://isis.dynip.com:70 | /'''/___/ | >Network News : isis.dynip.com (Read, Post, Xfer) __|/'''/ >Mailing Lists : majordomo@isis.dynip.com (public) >pgp key : finger root@isis.dynip.com > > >To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org >with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message > ================================================================ Joey Bear Garcia Downey, CA bear@pacificnet.net ================================================================ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Fri Feb 5 03:49:25 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id DAA04713 for freebsd-newbies-outgoing; Fri, 5 Feb 1999 03:49:25 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from send201.yahoomail.com (send201.mail.yahoo.com [128.11.68.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id DAA04708 for ; Fri, 5 Feb 1999 03:49:24 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from olivier_willems@yahoo.com) Message-ID: <19990205114837.441.rocketmail@send201.yahoomail.com> Received: from [195.95.25.112] by send201.mail.yahoo.com; Fri, 05 Feb 1999 03:48:37 PST Date: Fri, 5 Feb 1999 03:48:37 -0800 (PST) From: olivier willems Subject: FreeBSD To: FreeBSD-Newbies@FreeBSD.ORG MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hello; Would you please send the whole handbook to my emailadress: Olivier_Willems@yahoo.com Thanks; byebye _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Fri Feb 5 05:07:22 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id FAA13543 for freebsd-newbies-outgoing; Fri, 5 Feb 1999 05:07:22 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from goodall1.u.washington.edu (goodall1.u.washington.edu [140.142.12.163]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id FAA13537 for ; Fri, 5 Feb 1999 05:07:21 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from durang@u.washington.edu) Received: from localhost (durang@localhost) by goodall1.u.washington.edu (8.9.1+UW98.09/8.9.1+UW98.09) with ESMTP id FAA07428; Fri, 5 Feb 1999 05:07:18 -0800 Date: Fri, 5 Feb 1999 05:07:18 -0800 (PST) From: "K. Marsh" To: olivier willems cc: FreeBSD-Newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: FreeBSD In-Reply-To: <19990205114837.441.rocketmail@send201.yahoomail.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Fri, 5 Feb 1999, olivier willems wrote: > Hello; > Would you please > send the whole handbook to my emailadress: > Olivier_Willems@yahoo.com By golly, Olly! You really want that? It's a 4MB file, and it's available online at numerous web and ftp sites. Also, if you broadcast a request like this to a mailing list, you could get dozens, if not hundreds of copies of the handbook filling your mailbox! Kenneth J. Marsh University of Washington durang@u.washington.edu Chemical Engineering To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Fri Feb 5 05:24:12 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id FAA15867 for freebsd-newbies-outgoing; Fri, 5 Feb 1999 05:24:12 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from arthur.axion.bt.co.uk (arthur.axion.bt.co.uk [132.146.5.4]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id FAA15849 for ; Fri, 5 Feb 1999 05:24:02 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from david.beckett@bt-sys.bt.co.uk) Received: from rambo (actually rambo.futures.bt.co.uk) by arthur (local) with SMTP; Fri, 5 Feb 1999 13:22:50 +0000 Received: from mussel.futures.bt.co.uk (actually mussel) by rambo with SMTP (PP); Fri, 5 Feb 1999 13:27:16 +0000 Received: by mussel.futures.bt.co.uk with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Server Internet Mail Connector Version 4.0.996.62) id <01BE5109.DCAEC7B0@mussel.futures.bt.co.uk>; Fri, 5 Feb 1999 13:17:21 -0000 Message-ID: From: David Beckett To: "'FreeBSD-newbies'" Subject: How do you open KDE files ? Date: Fri, 5 Feb 1999 13:25:56 -0000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Exchange Server Internet Mail Connector Version 4.0.996.62 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org FreeBSD, I am running FreeBSD 2.2.7 on a Millenium II by Matrox. I have installed X windows and KDE desktop. I have installed an appropiate driver for the sound card and rebuilt my Kernel. I want to open kmpeg 1,2,3 so that i can play audio files. I haven't got a clue on how to open the files, if I try to open the files by clicking on the icons I simply get the browser option "open with". I can't open the file with anything that is in the toolbar menu. How do I go about opening such files ? Do I have to move the files to another location? Can i open them using the Unix terminal ? Do I need additional files (i.e. shell file) ? If you could give me any information I would be very grateful. Yours Gratefully, ----------------------- Dave Beckett BT Labs B29, Room 138 Martlesham Heath IP5 3RE 01473 649512 ---------------------- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Fri Feb 5 06:08:06 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id GAA21130 for freebsd-newbies-outgoing; Fri, 5 Feb 1999 06:08:06 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from mail1.WorldMediaCo.com ([207.252.121.17]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id GAA21125 for ; Fri, 5 Feb 1999 06:08:04 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from opsys@open-systems.net) Received: from freebsd.omaha.com ([207.252.122.220]) by mail1.WorldMediaCo.com (Post.Office MTA v3.5.3 release 223 ID# 0-55573U2500L250S0V35) with SMTP id com; Fri, 5 Feb 1999 08:01:45 -0600 Date: Fri, 5 Feb 1999 08:08:06 +0000 (GMT) From: "Open Systems Inc." X-Sender: opsys@freebsd.omaha.com To: Jill Rhoads cc: freebsd-newbies Subject: Re: Making ports passive In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Thu, 4 Feb 1999, Jill Rhoads wrote: > How do you make the ports collection passively ftp files? Can you even > do it? Can you do it without having to change every Makefile that you > intend to install? I'm sitting on an ISDN line that loves passive > transfers. It is rather simple. All you need to do is, assuming your using a csh of some kind including tcsh, "setenv FTP_PASSIVE_MODE" without the quotes from the command line. Or set that same command in your .cshrc or .tcshrc file. For further information on this "man fetch". I hope I explained that fairly well. If not let me know :-) Chris -- "Join Team-FreeBSD on cracking RC5-64! grab you client now and HELP OUT! http://www.distributed.net/cgi/select.cgi" ===================================| Open Systems FreeBSD Consulting. FreeBSD 2.2.8 is available now! | Phone: 402-573-9124 -----------------------------------| 3335 N. 103 Plaza #14, Omaha, NE 68134 FreeBSD: The power to serve! | E-Mail: opsys@open-systems.net http://www.freebsd.org | Consulting, Network Engineering, Security ===================================| http://open-systems.net -----BEGIN PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK----- Version: 2.6.2 mQENAzPemUsAAAEH/06iF0BU8pMtdLJrxp/lLk3vg9QJCHajsd25gYtR8X1Px1Te gWU0C4EwMh4seDIgK9bzFmjjlZOEgS9zEgia28xDgeluQjuuMyUFJ58MzRlC2ONC foYIZsFyIqdjEOCBdfhH5bmgB5/+L5bjDK6lNdqD8OAhtC4Xnc1UxAKq3oUgVD/Z d5UJXU2xm+f08WwGZIUcbGcaonRC/6Z/5o8YpLVBpcFeLtKW5WwGhEMxl9WDZ3Kb NZH6bx15WiB2Q/gZQib3ZXhe1xEgRP+p6BnvF364I/To9kMduHpJKU97PH3dU7Mv CXk2NG3rtOgLTEwLyvtBPqLnbx35E0JnZc0k5YkABRO0JU9wZW4gU3lzdGVtcyA8 b3BzeXNAb3Blbi1zeXN0ZW1zLm5ldD4= =BBjp -----END PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK----- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Fri Feb 5 06:09:46 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id GAA21225 for freebsd-newbies-outgoing; Fri, 5 Feb 1999 06:09:46 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from tekincisnts-4.teklogix.com ([207.219.2.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id GAA21220 for ; Fri, 5 Feb 1999 06:09:45 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mpoulin@honk.org) Received: from INCISWNT-428 ([10.64.5.198]) by tekincisnts-4.teklogix.com with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.1960.3) id 1JRV5PRF; Fri, 5 Feb 1999 09:09:44 -0500 Message-Id: <3.0.3.32.19990205090943.0090e350@spectre.honk.org> X-Sender: mpoulin@spectre.honk.org X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.3 (32) Date: Fri, 05 Feb 1999 09:09:43 -0500 To: David Beckett , "'FreeBSD-newbies'" From: "M. Poulin" Subject: Re: How do you open KDE files ? In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Typically, you would open the files from within the program itself. For example, if you want to open an MP3, you would start up your favorite MP3 program, and from within that program click File... Open... ,etc. For what it's worth, I could not get kmpeg to work on my system, but I believe that it depends on the type of sound card you are using. Kmpeg relies on OSS drivers, if I'm not mistaken. I had much better luck using mxaudio to play MP3s. M. At 01:25 PM 2/5/99 -0000, David Beckett wrote: >FreeBSD, > >I am running FreeBSD 2.2.7 on a Millenium II by Matrox. I have installed >X windows and KDE desktop. I have installed an appropiate driver for the >sound card and rebuilt my Kernel. > >I want to open kmpeg 1,2,3 so that i can play audio files. I haven't got >a clue on how to open the files, if I try to open the files by clicking >on the icons I simply get the browser option "open with". I can't open >the file with anything that is in the toolbar menu. > >How do I go about opening such files ? Do I have to move the files to >another location? Can i open them using the Unix terminal ? Do I need >additional files (i.e. shell file) ? > >If you could give me any information I would be very grateful. > >Yours Gratefully, > > >----------------------- >Dave Beckett >BT Labs >B29, Room 138 >Martlesham Heath >IP5 3RE > >01473 649512 >---------------------- > > >To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org >with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Fri Feb 5 07:14:09 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id HAA29701 for freebsd-newbies-outgoing; Fri, 5 Feb 1999 07:14:09 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from isis.dynip.com ([139.141.220.30]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id HAA29616 for ; Fri, 5 Feb 1999 07:13:49 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from root@isis.dynip.com) From: root@isis.dynip.com Received: (from root@localhost) by isis.dynip.com (8.9.2/8.9.1) id SAA32327 for freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org; Fri, 5 Feb 1999 18:12:25 +0300 (AST) (envelope-from root) Message-Id: <199902051512.SAA32327@isis.dynip.com> Date: Fri, 5 Feb 1999 18:12:24 +0300 (AST) Reply-To: root@isis.dynip.com Subject: RE: Strange Question To: freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/plain; CHARSET=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On 4 Feb, gummibear@we.mediaone.net wrote: > hmm, is it FreeBSD is cool, and Free LSD is cool? (especially while > listening to Pink Floyd) > > *shrug* ================================================================ EXCELLENT ANSWER. THIS IS THE IDEAL CORRECT ANSWER. When I posted the original message I did not think that anyone will say exactly the answer like I wanted. You are a real genius, and I can tell that you love FreeBSD and Pink Floyd, like me. Thank you very much. Now to the real questions guys, and gals. -- - MAY THE FORCE BE WITH YOU. ~o .^. ---------------------------- ___ o~ .00 ) Static Email : osiris2002@yahoo.com /| o~ /)( Bouncing Email : root@isis.dynip.com / | | \ Web Site : http://isis.dynip.com:80 (Frames) ___/ | / \ Anon FTP Site : ftp://isis.dynip.com:21 (anonymous) | /''___/ / | Gopher Site : gopher://isis.dynip.com:70 | /'''/___/ | Network News : isis.dynip.com (Read, Post, Xfer) __|/'''/ Mailing Lists : majordomo@isis.dynip.com (public) pgp key : finger root@isis.dynip.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Fri Feb 5 07:40:56 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id HAA03139 for freebsd-newbies-outgoing; Fri, 5 Feb 1999 07:40:56 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from fellspt.charm.net (fellspt.charm.net [199.0.70.29]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id HAA03126 for ; Fri, 5 Feb 1999 07:40:52 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from treecat@charm.net) Received: from charm.net (balt-union-059.charm.net [209.143.126.59]) by fellspt.charm.net (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id KAA26638 for ; Fri, 5 Feb 1999 10:40:50 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <36BB1103.8046E0B7@charm.net> Date: Fri, 05 Feb 1999 10:40:51 -0500 From: Dutch X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.06 [en] (Win95; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG" Subject: Free & standards must be patented by MS$ Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Microsoft Questioned Over Web Standards Patents BOSTON, MASSACHUSETTS, U.S.A., 1999 FEB 4 (Newsbytes) -- By Adam Creed, Newsbytes. An international coalition of Web developers has questioned whether a patent held by Microsoft gives the company control over Web standards created by the World Wide Web Consortium (W3C). complete story: http://andovernews.com/cgi-bin/news_story.pl?121583 -dutch/quasimoto To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Fri Feb 5 07:58:26 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id HAA04689 for freebsd-newbies-outgoing; Fri, 5 Feb 1999 07:58:26 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from isis.dynip.com ([139.141.220.30]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id HAA04610 for ; Fri, 5 Feb 1999 07:57:58 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from root@isis.dynip.com) From: root@isis.dynip.com Received: (from root@localhost) by isis.dynip.com (8.9.2/8.9.1) id SAA76869; Fri, 5 Feb 1999 18:56:00 +0300 (AST) (envelope-from root) Message-Id: <199902051556.SAA76869@isis.dynip.com> Date: Fri, 5 Feb 1999 18:56:00 +0300 (AST) Reply-To: root@isis.dynip.com Subject: Re: FreeBSD To: olivier_willems@yahoo.com cc: freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <19990205114837.441.rocketmail@send201.yahoomail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/plain; CHARSET=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On 5 Feb, olivier willems wrote: > Hello; > Would you please > send the whole handbook to my emailadress: > Olivier_Willems@yahoo.com > > > Thanks; > byebye > > > _________________________________________________________ > DO YOU YAHOO!? > Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message Hi there, Is this a joke You are asking some one to please park your 12 wheels truck in my bath room. Try using CVSUP, it is in the ports -- - MAY THE FORCE BE WITH YOU. ~o .^. ---------------------------- ___ o~ .00 ) Static Email : osiris2002@yahoo.com /| o~ /)( Bouncing Email : root@isis.dynip.com / | | \ Web Site : http://isis.dynip.com:80 (Frames) ___/ | / \ Anon FTP Site : ftp://isis.dynip.com:21 (anonymous) | /''___/ / | Gopher Site : gopher://isis.dynip.com:70 | /'''/___/ | Network News : isis.dynip.com (Read, Post, Xfer) __|/'''/ Mailing Lists : majordomo@isis.dynip.com (public) pgp key : finger root@isis.dynip.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Fri Feb 5 08:21:56 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA07458 for freebsd-newbies-outgoing; Fri, 5 Feb 1999 08:21:56 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from fellspt.charm.net (fellspt.charm.net [199.0.70.29]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA07452 for ; Fri, 5 Feb 1999 08:21:54 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from treecat@charm.net) Received: from charm.net (balt-union-059.charm.net [209.143.126.59]) by fellspt.charm.net (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id LAA02363 for ; Fri, 5 Feb 1999 11:21:52 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <36BB1AA3.DACBEB50@charm.net> Date: Fri, 05 Feb 1999 11:21:55 -0500 From: Dutch X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.06 [en] (Win95; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG" Subject: Re: Free & standards must be patented by MS$ References: <36BB1103.8046E0B7@charm.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org figgers i would forget something while being P%$#%-off. i bought red hat 5.2 at best buys (balto MD). I really think that the packaging, up front placement of said package is good for RH linux sales - MS$ was nowhere in sight. Maybe, a little marketing sucess for HR will spill over to FreeBSD. Just a thought. -dutch/quasimoto Dutch wrote: > > Microsoft Questioned Over Web Standards Patents > BOSTON, MASSACHUSETTS, U.S.A., 1999 FEB 4 (Newsbytes) -- By Adam > Creed, Newsbytes. An international coalition of Web developers has > questioned whether a patent held by Microsoft gives the company > control over Web standards created by the World Wide Web Consortium > (W3C). > > complete story: > http://andovernews.com/cgi-bin/news_story.pl?121583 > > -dutch/quasimoto > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Fri Feb 5 12:50:25 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA28690 for freebsd-newbies-outgoing; Fri, 5 Feb 1999 12:50:25 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from jason05.u.washington.edu (jason05.u.washington.edu [140.142.78.6]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA28676 for ; Fri, 5 Feb 1999 12:50:22 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from durang@u.washington.edu) Received: from goodall2.u.washington.edu (durang@goodall2.u.washington.edu [140.142.12.168]) by jason05.u.washington.edu (8.9.1+UW98.09/8.9.1+UW98.09) with ESMTP id KAA18672; Fri, 5 Feb 1999 10:13:02 -0800 Received: from localhost (durang@localhost) by goodall2.u.washington.edu (8.9.1+UW98.09/8.9.1+UW98.09) with ESMTP id KAA12918; Fri, 5 Feb 1999 10:13:02 -0800 Date: Fri, 5 Feb 1999 10:13:02 -0800 (PST) From: "K. Marsh" To: "M. Poulin" cc: David Beckett , "'FreeBSD-newbies'" Subject: Re: How do you open KDE files ? In-Reply-To: <3.0.3.32.19990205090943.0090e350@spectre.honk.org> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Fri, 5 Feb 1999, M. Poulin wrote: > I had much better luck using mxaudio to play MP3s. I use SBAWE64 with Luigi drivers, and amp works great for me. Kenneth J. Marsh University of Washington durang@u.washington.edu Chemical Engineering To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Fri Feb 5 14:16:56 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA11282 for freebsd-newbies-outgoing; Fri, 5 Feb 1999 14:16:56 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from phoenix.welearn.com.au (phoenix.welearn.com.au [139.130.44.81] (may be forged)) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA11271 for ; Fri, 5 Feb 1999 14:16:51 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from sue@phoenix.welearn.com.au) Received: (from sue@localhost) by phoenix.welearn.com.au (8.9.1/8.9.0) id JAA09198; Sat, 6 Feb 1999 09:16:42 +1100 (EST) Message-ID: <19990206091638.51331@welearn.com.au> Date: Sat, 6 Feb 1999 09:16:38 +1100 From: Sue Blake To: freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Cc: wwoods@cybcon.com Subject: Don't copy this idea Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.88e Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org A timely reminder not to ever send test messages to a mailing list, especially the FreeBSD lists. (Sorry if this embarrasses you, William, but I guess by now you're getting a lot of unkinder mail anyway, and we're indebted to you.) It is clear to me that this guy could not have had any idea what would be the outcome of sending a test message. At least 5,000 individual copies of this mail would have been delivered and downloaded, and most of the recipients would feel annoyed enough to say so... get the picture? There is a mailing list called freebsd-test@freebsd.org which you can use freely, with or without subscribing, to send your test messages. Sending them to any other list can result in being banned from the FreeBSD lists, but worse, it causes you to lose face in the community. The biggest danger is that newbies will see test messages and say "great idea, I'll just send one tiny test message and make sure it works". At 5,000 a pop (plus reply flame threads) the damage reaches spammer level, and the poster's reputation goes the same way. Don't let this happen to you by accident. Ignore any "test" messages, because they're probably being dealt with off the list already. Don't post them yourself, don't let your software accidentally post them for you, and if you really need to test, just use freebsd-test@freebsd.org. An alternative would be to post something truly useful within the topic of a list (and avoid the nasty t word). You can always write to freebsd-newbies and say "Hi, I live in and I've been using FreeBSD for . I mainly use it for ". That's sure to bring a freindly response, and give your mail a good old testing. William, if it's any consolation, a lot of people are probably grateful to you right now for saving their skins by providing this example before they strayed into the same non-obvious trap. For Da Rulez see http://www.freebsd.org/handbook/eresrources:charters.html -----Forwarded message from William Woods ----- Date: Fri, 05 Feb 1999 11:48:25 -0800 (PST) Reply-To: wwoods@cybcon.com From: William Woods To: FreeBSD Questions To: FreeBSD Questions , FreeBSD Current , FreeBSD Stable Subject: test............ test......... ---------------------------------- E-Mail: William Woods Date: 05-Feb-99 / Time: 11:48:00 FreeBSD 4.0 -Current ---------------------------------- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message -----End of forwarded message----- -- Regards, -*Sue*- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Fri Feb 5 15:47:37 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA21350 for freebsd-newbies-outgoing; Fri, 5 Feb 1999 15:47:37 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from gamma.aei.ca (gamma.aei.ca [206.123.6.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA21345 for ; Fri, 5 Feb 1999 15:47:34 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from malartre@aei.ca) Received: from aei.ca ([207.107.110.192]) by gamma.aei.ca (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA27593; Fri, 5 Feb 1999 16:57:35 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <36BB6911.2747BCD9@aei.ca> Date: Fri, 05 Feb 1999 16:56:33 -0500 From: Malartre X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (X11; I; FreeBSD 2.2.8-RELEASE i386) X-Accept-Language: fr, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: root@isis.dynip.com CC: freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Strange Question References: <199902051512.SAA32327@isis.dynip.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org root@isis.dynip.com wrote: > > On 4 Feb, gummibear@we.mediaone.net wrote: > > > hmm, is it FreeBSD is cool, and Free LSD is cool? (especially while > > listening to Pink Floyd) > > > > *shrug* > ================================================================ > > EXCELLENT ANSWER. THIS IS THE IDEAL CORRECT ANSWER. > > When I posted the original message I did not think that anyone will say > exactly the answer like I wanted. > > You are a real genius, and I can tell that you love FreeBSD and Pink > Floyd, like me. > > Thank you very much. Now to the real questions guys, and gals. > > -- > - MAY THE FORCE BE WITH YOU. ~o .^. > ---------------------------- ___ o~ .00 ) > Static Email : osiris2002@yahoo.com /| o~ /)( > Bouncing Email : root@isis.dynip.com / | | \ > Web Site : http://isis.dynip.com:80 (Frames) ___/ | / \ > Anon FTP Site : ftp://isis.dynip.com:21 (anonymous) | /''___/ / | > Gopher Site : gopher://isis.dynip.com:70 | /'''/___/ | > Network News : isis.dynip.com (Read, Post, Xfer) __|/'''/ > Mailing Lists : majordomo@isis.dynip.com (public) > pgp key : finger root@isis.dynip.com > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message Was Sid Barret on LSD? There's a legend that he is bicycling somewhere in UK :-) -- [Malartre][malartre@aei.ca][French piss me off - Cartman, South Park] [The FreeBSD User Guide][http://www.aei.ca/~malartre/freebsd/] To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Fri Feb 5 16:54:29 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA02253 for freebsd-newbies-outgoing; Fri, 5 Feb 1999 16:54:29 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from mail.rdc1.sfba.home.com (ha1.rdc1.sfba.home.com [24.0.0.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA02248 for ; Fri, 5 Feb 1999 16:54:27 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from charon@freethought.org) From: charon@freethought.org Received: from c40948-a ([24.1.7.99]) by mail.rdc1.sfba.home.com (InterMail v4.00.03 201-229-104) with SMTP id <19990206005426.PJER9535.mail.rdc1.sfba.home.com@c40948-a>; Fri, 5 Feb 1999 16:54:26 -0800 Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19990205165422.00a24760@mail> X-Sender: tuathadedanann@mail X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Fri, 05 Feb 1999 16:54:22 -0800 To: Malartre Subject: Re: Strange Question Cc: freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <36BB6911.2747BCD9@aei.ca> References: <199902051512.SAA32327@isis.dynip.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org At 04:56 PM 2/5/99 -0500, Malartre wrote: >root@isis.dynip.com wrote: >> >> On 4 Feb, gummibear@we.mediaone.net wrote: >> >> > hmm, is it FreeBSD is cool, and Free LSD is cool? (especially while >> > listening to Pink Floyd) >> > >> > *shrug* >> ================================================================ >> >> EXCELLENT ANSWER. THIS IS THE IDEAL CORRECT ANSWER. >Was Sid Barret on LSD? There's a legend that he is bicycling somewhere >in UK :-) Can I ride it if I like? ;) It's all about Roger Waters, man... _Piper_ is great, but PF's best stuff was definitely later. Charon@freethought.org http://members.home.net/tuathadedanann/ "Do people want fire that can be fitted nasally?" To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Fri Feb 5 17:30:28 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id RAA06749 for freebsd-newbies-outgoing; Fri, 5 Feb 1999 17:30:28 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from phoenix.welearn.com.au (phoenix.welearn.com.au [139.130.44.81] (may be forged)) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id RAA06725 for ; Fri, 5 Feb 1999 17:30:19 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from sue@phoenix.welearn.com.au) Received: (from sue@localhost) by phoenix.welearn.com.au (8.9.1/8.9.0) id MAA09850 for freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org; Sat, 6 Feb 1999 12:30:14 +1100 (EST) Date: Sat, 6 Feb 1999 12:30:14 +1100 (EST) From: Sue Blake Message-Id: <199902060130.MAA09850@phoenix.welearn.com.au> To: freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: FreeBSD Newbies First Aid Kit Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org FreeBSD-Newbies First Aid Kit (Last updated 30 August 1998) (This is a regular posting to the FreeBSD-Newbies mailing list. It is also available at http://www.welearn.com.au/freebsd/newbies/) FreeBSD-Questions@FreeBSD.ORG is the place to send all questions about installing, configuring, running and using FreeBSD. All help requests are handled by FreeBSD-Questions, including newbies questions. FreeBSD-Newbies is different. We don't ask for help or answer how-to questions. It is a discussion forum for newbies. FreeBSD-Newbies provides a place for new FreeBSD users to meet and covers any of the activities of newbies that are not already dealt with elsewhere. Examples include helping each other to learn more on our own, finding and using resources, problem solving techniques, how to seek help elsewhere, how to use mailing lists and which lists to use, general chat, making mistakes, boasting, sharing ideas, stories, moral (but not technical) support, and taking an active part in the FreeBSD community. We take our problems and support questions to freebsd-questions, and use freebsd-newbies to meet others who are doing the same things that we do as newbies. One of the things we do together is learn more effective ways to find help when we need it. Here are some suggestions: When something doesn't work the way you expect 1. First look at the errata for your release of FreeBSD at http://www.FreeBSD.ORG/releases/ for the latest information and security advisories. 2. Search the Handbook, FAQ, and mail archives at http://www.FreeBSD.ORG/search.html 3. If you still have a question or problem, collect the output of `uname -a' and of any relevant program(s) and email your question to FreeBSD-questions@FreeBSD.ORG. Mailing lists When you have a problem that you can't solve by yourself, there's only one support mailing list and that's FreeBSD-questions@FreeBSD.ORG. FreeBSD-questions helps with installation and basic setup as well as more general and advanced questions. You don't have to actually join freebsd-questions before asking a question there. Replies to your question will normally be sent to you personally as well as to the list. Just make sure you have read and followed the guidelines for posting, because you might find them different to what you're used to. If you do subscribe to freebsd-questions you'll have the advantage of seeing all of the recent questions and their answers. Before you post to FreeBSD-questions, please read the guidelines at http://www.lemis.com/questions.html Many of the people who answer FreeBSD-questions are very knowledgeable, but they get frustrated when they get questions which are difficult to understand. http://www.lemis.com/email.html is worth reading too. If you're not sure that you can follow these guidelines, come back and ask the other newbies for help on how to post an effective question to the support mailing list. Maybe your question has been asked before. If you search the mailing list archives at http://www.freebsd.org/search.html first you might get the answer right away. It's always worth trying. Other mailing lists (http://www.freebsd.org/handbook/eresources:charters.html) cover specialised areas and many are more developer-oriented. You'll need to read their charters carefully before participating, but it's probably a good idea to ask on either -newbies or -questions for advice about where to post a more specialised question. FreeBSD-announce is a very low volume read-only list for occasional announcements, such as notice of new releases, and the Really Quick Newsletter. It's worth subscribing to FreeBSD-announce too. Manuals You'll always be expected show that you have made some effort to use the available documentation before asking for help. That's not always as easy as it sounds! If you know what documentation you need but can't locate it, send a brief query to FreeBSD-questions. If you don't know what you need, always have trouble finding it, or can't make any sense of it when you do, ask some patient newbies to steer you in the right direction. Anyone interested in writing or reviewing documentation for FreeBSD is encouraged to join the FreeBSD Documentation Project. Details are at http://www.freebsd.org/docproj/docproj.html Other resources A resource list is available at http://www.freebsd.org/projects/newbies.html to help new and inexperienced FreeBSD users to find relevant information quickly. It includes books, on line documents and tutorials, and links to web pages that other newbies have found useful for learning. If you have a suggestion for good material to be included, please write to freebsd-newbies and tell us about it. But I have seen people asking questions here! It is quite common for people to send the wrong kind of post to a mailing list. Because we're newbies it'll certainly happen here from time to time. The best thing to do if you see a message that doesn't belong on a list is to ignore it. There's always someone around whose job it is to sort these problems out privately. The posts to the lists go straight through, whatever their content. It is going to be confusing for a little while because we're all newbies so we all make mistakes. That's OK. One thing we're going to see a fair bit is people posting questions, believing they're doing the right thing by posting here as newbies, not realising how it works. If someone answers those questions the situation will snowball. There's nothing wrong with helping someone to redirect their question to freebsd-questions, but please do so gently. There's nothing wrong with the occasional mistake either. So all questions, requests for help, etc still go to freebsd-questions as usual. Ours is more of a discussion group, a place where newbies can relax with other newbies and focus more on our successes than on our temporary imperfection. We can talk about things here that are not allowed on freebsd-questions. We're also a bit freer to make the mistakes that we need to make in order to learn. _________________________________________________________________ To Subscribe to FreeBSD-Newbies: Send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "subscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message. Mail sent to freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org appears on the mailing list. _________________________________________________________________ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Fri Feb 5 19:14:08 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id TAA15675 for freebsd-newbies-outgoing; Fri, 5 Feb 1999 19:14:08 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from konichiwa.cc.columbia.edu (konichiwa.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.35.132]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id TAA15660 for ; Fri, 5 Feb 1999 19:13:47 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from stuyman@confusion.net) Received: from confusion.net (dialup-1-75.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.42.84]) by konichiwa.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id WAA20274; Fri, 5 Feb 1999 22:13:25 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <36BBB337.A5E87BFF@confusion.net> Date: Fri, 05 Feb 1999 22:12:55 -0500 From: Laurence Berland Organization: B.R.A.T.T. X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (Win95; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: root@isis.dynip.com CC: freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Strange Question References: <199902041651.TAA04723@isis.dynip.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Being a new unix user, I don't know much aboutsetting up the system (ok almost nothing, but I'm struggling along and I can use it some). What I can tell you is that I know my computer history, including UNIX. In the 80s (I think 86) a hacker at stanford was hacking in went by the name PFloyd. They ran BSD unix. When the guy hacking into LBL (also running BSD Unix) he went to see if the ppl on that system were mentioning PFloyd, so he started scouring the system for it. But he got his info from a newspaper, and the paper misreported the name of PFloyd as Pink Floyd, so he searched for that instead. This helped the LBL people to be sure that their hacker wasn't PFloyd. The LBL hacker was a german named Markus Hess. On a related note, some people both use FreeBSD and listen to Pink Floyd (Like me). Anything I missed? root@isis.dynip.com wrote: > (High) Newbies, > Can any one tell me what's the relation between FreeBSD and Pink Floyd > Thanks. > -- > - MAY THE FORCE BE WITH YOU. ~o .^. > ---------------------------- ___ o~ .00 ) > Static Email : osiris2002@yahoo.com /| o~ /)( > Bouncing Email : root@isis.dynip.com / | | \ > Web Site : http://isis.dynip.com:80 (Frames) ___/ | / \ > Anon FTP Site : ftp://isis.dynip.com:21 (anonymous) | /''___/ / | > Gopher Site : gopher://isis.dynip.com:70 | /'''/___/ | > Network News : isis.dynip.com (Read, Post, Xfer) __|/'''/ > Mailing Lists : majordomo@isis.dynip.com (public) > pgp key : finger root@isis.dynip.com > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message -- Laurence Berland, Stuyvesant HS Debate <><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><> Windows 98: n. useless extension to a minor patch release for 32-bit extensions and a graphical shell for a 16-bit patch to an 8-bit operating system originally coded for a 4-bit microprocessor, written by a 2-bit company that can't stand for 1 bit of competition. http://stuy.debate.net icq #7434346 aol imer E1101 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Fri Feb 5 22:45:56 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id WAA01503 for freebsd-newbies-outgoing; Fri, 5 Feb 1999 22:45:56 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from mail.greatbasin.net (mail.greatbasin.net [207.228.35.39]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id WAA01497 for ; Fri, 5 Feb 1999 22:45:53 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from dan@jgl.reno.nv.us) Received: from danco (rno-max3-45.gbis.net [207.228.60.237]) by mail.greatbasin.net (8.9.2/8.8.8) with SMTP id WAA18014; Fri, 5 Feb 1999 22:45:35 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <04fb01be519c$3a5d65a0$ed3ce4cf@danco.home> From: "Dan O'Connor" To: , Subject: Re: Strange Question Date: Fri, 5 Feb 1999 22:45:03 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3155.0 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3155.0 Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org From: root@isis.dynip.com >On 4 Feb, gummibear@we.mediaone.net wrote: > >> hmm, is it FreeBSD is cool, and Free LSD is cool? (especially while >> listening to Pink Floyd) >> >> *shrug* >================================================================ > >EXCELLENT ANSWER. THIS IS THE IDEAL CORRECT ANSWER. > >When I posted the original message I did not think that anyone will say >exactly the answer like I wanted. > >You are a real genius, and I can tell that you love FreeBSD and Pink >Floyd, like me. This brings to mind one of my favorite quotes: There are two major products that came out of Berkeley: LSD and UNIX. We don't believe this to be a coincidence. --Jeremy S. Anderson To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Fri Feb 5 23:45:27 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id XAA06719 for freebsd-newbies-outgoing; Fri, 5 Feb 1999 23:45:27 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from server01.gw.total-web.net (server01.gw.total-web.net [209.186.12.2] (may be forged)) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id XAA06714 for ; Fri, 5 Feb 1999 23:45:26 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from bangpath@bellsouth.net) Received: from kagero.gw.total-web.net (ip-149-116.gw.total-web.net [209.186.149.116]) by server01.gw.total-web.net (2.5 Build 2640 (Berkeley 8.8.6)/8.8.4) with SMTP id CAA00514 for ; Sat, 06 Feb 1999 02:43:19 -0500 Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19990206023943.007a0880@mail.atl.bellsouth.net> X-Sender: bangpath@mail.atl.bellsouth.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Sat, 06 Feb 1999 02:39:43 -0800 To: freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG From: borehawg Subject: Re: Strange Question In-Reply-To: <04fb01be519c$3a5d65a0$ed3ce4cf@danco.home> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org >This brings to mind one of my favorite quotes: > > There are two major products that came out of Berkeley: > LSD and UNIX. We don't believe this to be a coincidence. > --Jeremy S. Anderson > Ahh!! I have seen this quote before, but without the author attributation. Thanks for posting it...although technically, BSD Unix came out of Berkeley....original UNIX first came from Bell Labs :-) -------------------------------------- Andrew ---> bangpath@bellsouth.net -------------------------------------- C++? Java? Perl? To Hell with it!! AppleSoft Basic all the way!!! Dude! To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Sat Feb 6 00:48:14 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id AAA11837 for freebsd-newbies-outgoing; Sat, 6 Feb 1999 00:48:14 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from mail.greatbasin.net (mail.greatbasin.net [207.228.35.39]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id AAA11832 for ; Sat, 6 Feb 1999 00:48:12 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from dan@jgl.reno.nv.us) Received: from danco (rno-max2-07.gbis.net [207.228.60.135]) by mail.greatbasin.net (8.9.2/8.8.8) with SMTP id AAA00405; Sat, 6 Feb 1999 00:48:11 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <05ac01be51ad$58b98d60$ed3ce4cf@danco.home> From: "Dan O'Connor" To: , "borehawg" Subject: Re: Strange Question Date: Sat, 6 Feb 1999 00:47:35 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3155.0 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3155.0 Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org >>This brings to mind one of my favorite quotes: >> >> There are two major products that came out of Berkeley: >> LSD and UNIX. We don't believe this to be a coincidence. >> --Jeremy S. Anderson > >Ahh!! I have seen this quote before, but without the author attributation. >Thanks for posting it... Glad I could be of service! >although technically, BSD Unix came out of >Berkeley....original UNIX first came from Bell Labs :-) Well, yes. But it's less funny that way...unless LSD came from the phone company, too. Which might explain the real reason for the AT&T breakup! --Dan P.S. Here's another good one for you: Experts tell us that if the Millennium Bug is not fixed, when the year 2000 arrives, our financial records will be inaccurate, our telephone system will be unreliable, our government will be paralyzed and airline flights will be canceled without warning. In other words, things will be pretty much the same as they are now. --Dave Barry, 1997 in Miami _Herald_ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Sat Feb 6 10:46:57 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA09590 for freebsd-newbies-outgoing; Sat, 6 Feb 1999 10:46:57 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from library.rcpl.org (library.rcpl.org [199.72.201.50]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id KAA09585 for ; Sat, 6 Feb 1999 10:46:54 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from arlankfo@141.com) Received: from 141.com (unverified [199.72.201.54]) by library.rcpl.org (EMWAC SMTPRS 0.83) with SMTP id ; Sat, 06 Feb 1999 13:48:36 -0500 Message-ID: To: freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Making my login class capabilities database work right on 2.2.5 Date: Sat, 06 Feb 1999 13:46:44 -0500 From: Andrew Lankford Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Two problems have been a minor source of irritation to me while I've used 2.2.2 and 2.2.5. First, I haven't been able to get the class capabilities database to work. I was alerted to this problem when I first logged on to the console: Feb 6 13:15:56 bogushost login: couldn't resolve 'tc=' reference in 'login_getclass' Since then, I've tried restoring the login.conf file to the "out of box" version, I've looked for incorrect syntax, and I've tried "tweaking" it in order to rid the file of "tc=" references. Going by the man page documentation, I couldn't find any problems with login.conf, so I tried rebuilding "login" and then as much of /usr/libexec as I knew how. No success, although I could have overlooked something. Does anyone know precisely what the binaries are that I need to rebuild in order to make my system read login.conf without any complaints, or is/was there a patch available? I'm also wondering whether anyone out there using xdm has gotten "sessreg" to work right, that is, does your X session show up in "who"? I'm not very literate in C, but I think the source code for "sessreg" says that *BSD OS's can't use DISPLAY values like ":0" in "utmp". Perhaps this is a question that should be directed at the XFree86 folks, but there have been a few other usenet gripes about it. Thanks in advance for the input... Andrew Lankford To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Sat Feb 6 15:42:09 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA07468 for freebsd-newbies-outgoing; Sat, 6 Feb 1999 15:42:09 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from superior.mooseriver.com (superior.mooseriver.com [208.138.31.113]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA07405 for ; Sat, 6 Feb 1999 15:42:01 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jgrosch@superior.mooseriver.com) Received: (from jgrosch@localhost) by superior.mooseriver.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA07721; Sat, 6 Feb 1999 15:41:57 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jgrosch) Message-ID: <19990206154157.A7696@mooseriver.com> Date: Sat, 6 Feb 1999 15:41:57 -0800 From: Josef Grosch To: root@isis.dynip.com, freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Strange Question Reply-To: jgrosch@mooseriver.com References: <199902051512.SAA32327@isis.dynip.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.91.1i In-Reply-To: <199902051512.SAA32327@isis.dynip.com>; from root@isis.dynip.com on Fri, Feb 05, 1999 at 06:12:24PM +0300 Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Fri, Feb 05, 1999 at 06:12:24PM +0300, root@isis.dynip.com wrote: > On 4 Feb, gummibear@we.mediaone.net wrote: > > > hmm, is it FreeBSD is cool, and Free LSD is cool? (especially while > > listening to Pink Floyd) A common saying here in Berkeley is that LSD and Unix both came from Berkeley and they have the same effect on your mind ;-) Josef -- Josef Grosch | Another day closer to a | FreeBSD 3.0 jgrosch@MooseRiver.com | Micro$oft free world | UNIX for the masses To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Sat Feb 6 15:47:46 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA07978 for freebsd-newbies-outgoing; Sat, 6 Feb 1999 15:47:46 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from superior.mooseriver.com (superior.mooseriver.com [208.138.31.113]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA07968 for ; Sat, 6 Feb 1999 15:47:42 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jgrosch@superior.mooseriver.com) Received: (from jgrosch@localhost) by superior.mooseriver.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA07732; Sat, 6 Feb 1999 15:47:37 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jgrosch) Message-ID: <19990206154737.B7696@mooseriver.com> Date: Sat, 6 Feb 1999 15:47:37 -0800 From: Josef Grosch To: borehawg , freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Strange Question Reply-To: jgrosch@mooseriver.com References: <04fb01be519c$3a5d65a0$ed3ce4cf@danco.home> <3.0.5.32.19990206023943.007a0880@mail.atl.bellsouth.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.91.1i In-Reply-To: <3.0.5.32.19990206023943.007a0880@mail.atl.bellsouth.net>; from borehawg on Sat, Feb 06, 1999 at 02:39:43AM -0800 Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Sat, Feb 06, 1999 at 02:39:43AM -0800, borehawg wrote: > >This brings to mind one of my favorite quotes: > > > > There are two major products that came out of Berkeley: > > LSD and UNIX. We don't believe this to be a coincidence. > > --Jeremy S. Anderson > > > > > Ahh!! I have seen this quote before, but without the author attributation. > Thanks for posting it...although technically, BSD Unix came out of > Berkeley....original UNIX first came from Bell Labs :-) Yes, this is true and LSD first came from Swizerland, Bern if I remember right. This is where Dr. Hoffman discovered LSD-25. But Berkeley is where BSD Unix came from and Owlsey Stanley had his LSD factory. Josef "Just another acid burnout victum in Berkeley" Grosch -- Josef Grosch | Another day closer to a | FreeBSD 3.0 jgrosch@MooseRiver.com | Micro$oft free world | UNIX for the masses To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message