From owner-freebsd-newbies Sun Jun 20 21:20:55 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from ZIPMX03.ZIPMAIL.COM.BR (zipmx03.zipmail.com.br [200.211.190.8]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B445814D18 for ; Sun, 20 Jun 1999 21:20:45 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from orizio@zipmail.com.br) Received: from zipmail.com.br ([200.211.190.5]) by ZIPMX03.ZIPMAIL.COM.BR (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id WAA03494 for ; Sun, 20 Jun 1999 22:24:50 -0300 Received: from mail pickup service by zipmail.com.br with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Mon, 21 Jun 1999 01:20:12 -0300 X-Originating-IP: [200.230.200.115] X-Mailer: ZipMail Mailer2.0 in HTTPServer 200.211.190.19 From: "* Orizio" Reply-To: orizio@zipmail.com.br To: Subject: How to formating a floppy disk ? Content-type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: Quoted-Printable MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: <03f5a1220041569ZIPIMAIL1@zipmail.com.br> Date: 21 Jun 1999 01:20:12 -0300 Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org hi, good night ! how formating a floppies disk from FreeBSD and how read a EXT2FS in this great system ? thank you and i love FreeBSD... this is a great job ! _____________________________________________________________ http://www.zipmail.com.br O e-mail que vai aonde voc=EA est=E1. _____________________________________________________________ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Sun Jun 20 23: 7: 1 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from www04.freshnet.de (www04.freshnet.de [195.38.142.25]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A810F14C13 for ; Sun, 20 Jun 1999 23:06:57 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from hein@spinner.de) Received: from spmnt.spmnt40 ([195.38.143.246]) by www04.freshnet.de (Post.Office MTA v3.5.3 release 223 ID# 0-58633U1000L100S0V35) with ESMTP id de for ; Mon, 21 Jun 1999 08:06:54 +0200 Received: from spinner.de (192.168.17.240 [192.168.17.240]) by spmnt.spmnt40 with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.1960.3) id J5JYHYGS; Mon, 21 Jun 1999 08:00:46 +0200 Message-ID: <376DC966.69385214@spinner.de> Date: Mon, 21 Jun 1999 07:11:02 +0200 From: Steffen Hein Organization: spinner.de X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (X11; I; FreeBSD 3.1-RELEASE i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: (no subject) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org help To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Sun Jun 20 23:39:59 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from smtp5.jps.net (smtp5.jps.net [209.63.224.55]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E1C6C14C13 for ; Sun, 20 Jun 1999 23:39:55 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ulairi@jps.net) Received: from ulairi (208-237-196-107.irv.jps.net [208.237.196.107]) by smtp5.jps.net (8.9.0/8.8.5) with SMTP id XAA07050; Sun, 20 Jun 1999 23:39:39 -0700 (PDT) From: "Ulairi" To: Cc: "Newbies" Subject: RE: How to formatting a floppy disk ? Date: Sun, 20 Jun 1999 23:39:31 -0700 Message-ID: <000901bebbb0$d1a8ee60$6bc4edd0@ulairi> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 In-Reply-To: <03f5a1220041569ZIPIMAIL1@zipmail.com.br> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Importance: Normal Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 look for a help page for the fdformat command (man fdformat should do) as for the EXT2FS partitions, the mount command should do (man mount) the sample should look like this: mount -t ext2fs /dev/wd1s1a /mnt (this is by no means the EXACT command, though) :) | hi, | good night ! | | how formatting a floppies disk from FreeBSD | and how read a EXT2FS in this great system ? | | thank you and I love FreeBSD... | this is a great job ! -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: PGPfreeware 6.0.2i iQA/AwUBN23cKVR8Yh25VFLEEQJkeACgocurJnxYi+f/fnOTfKmL988c9JUAmwZw KWkWnJcGP1OrG3BITmJnuaRG =nZbl -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Mon Jun 21 6:26:59 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from fellspt.charm.net (fellspt.charm.net [199.0.70.29]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9163814FCA for ; Mon, 21 Jun 1999 06:26:55 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dutch@charm.net) Received: from charm.net (coretel-106.charm.net [209.143.116.106]) by fellspt.charm.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA08912 for ; Mon, 21 Jun 1999 09:26:54 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <376E3D84.4D6578DC@charm.net> Date: Mon, 21 Jun 1999 09:26:28 -0400 From: Dutch Collins X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.61 [en] (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-newbies Subject: Need more info on X86 &kde Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Well, I have installed FreeBSD 3.2 from the Walnut Creek CD - It works. But, I can't get X11R6 and KDE to work. And I do not know where to find enough info to make it work. Been to X86 web site, been to freebsd.org and looked around the install Hard Disk. Lost!!! Thanks for any info -dutch -- +------------------------------------------------------+ | If you want to make god laugh - tell him your plans. | | Kim Basinger | | Voice Line: 410.922.5805 | +------------------------------------------------------+ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Mon Jun 21 19:23: 2 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from smtp5.jps.net (smtp5.jps.net [209.63.224.55]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0513314DC9; Mon, 21 Jun 1999 19:22:50 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ulairi@jps.net) Received: from ulairi (208-237-196-63.irv.jps.net [208.237.196.63]) by smtp5.jps.net (8.9.0/8.8.5) with SMTP id TAA27830; Mon, 21 Jun 1999 19:22:42 -0700 (PDT) From: "Ulairi" To: "Dutch Collins" Cc: "Newbies" , "Questions" Subject: RE: Need more info on X86 &kde Date: Mon, 21 Jun 1999 19:22:33 -0700 Message-ID: <000e01bebc56$15c9ab20$3fc4edd0@ulairi> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <376E3D84.4D6578DC@charm.net> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Please give more info. Also, I'm posting this one into the -questions, I recommend following it up there. (replying to me directly is perfectly acceptable, too :) ) including the "uname -a" and the output of "dmesg" does help. A fuller description of the problem would be cool, too :) | -----Original Message----- | From: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG | [mailto:owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG]On Behalf Of Dutch Collins | Sent: Monday, June 21, 1999 06:26 | To: freebsd-newbies | Subject: Need more info on X86 &kde | | | Well, I have installed FreeBSD 3.2 from the Walnut Creek CD - | It works. | | But, I can't get X11R6 and KDE to work. And I do not know | where to find | enough info to make it work. Been to X86 web site, been to freebsd.org | and looked around the install Hard Disk. Lost!!! | | Thanks for any info | | -dutch | | -- | +------------------------------------------------------+ | | If you want to make god laugh - tell him your plans. | | | Kim Basinger | | | Voice Line: 410.922.5805 | | +------------------------------------------------------+ | | | To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org | with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message | -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: PGPfreeware 6.0.2i iQA/AwUBN27yO1R8Yh25VFLEEQLbdACfRXKM3nYarERmx82GZMvGSUblW+4AoJgV 2WG2w4+eJ8KVaNealdJgOxka =sBXH -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Tue Jun 22 7:47:16 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mail5.globalserve.net (mail5.globalserve.net [209.90.128.165]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 03A9214CB0; Tue, 22 Jun 1999 07:46:35 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from lalala@globalserve.net) Received: from myname.my.domain (dialin47.montreal.globalserve.net [209.167.12.47]) by mail5.globalserve.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id KAA06688; Tue, 22 Jun 1999 10:46:34 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <376F68F6.41C67EA6@globalserve.net> Date: Tue, 22 Jun 1999 10:44:06 +0000 From: Marty C X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.04 (X11; I; FreeBSD 3.2-RELEASE i386) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Custom Kernel Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Is there some type of utility program to help someone make a custom kernel? Does anyone out there have an already written "MYKERNEL" (or know where to get one etc...) for a kernel with sound support (sb16) on a computer that has an AMD-K6-2 cpu, a dual boot win98 (hda4) and FreeBSD (wd0s1a) hd (swap is wd0s1b), a floppy (fd0), a 32x Creative CROM (wcd0c), 2x/6x ACER CD-ReWriter (wcd1c), modem, Matrox Mystique G200 4MB, and a HP DeskJet 672C printer? Is it true that FreeBSD was developed using MS Visual Basic 4.0? (joke) -- ======================================= | from Martin, lalala@globalserve.net | | -Destroyer of Hard Drives | | -Mangler of partition tables | | -Data's worst nightmare | ======================================= To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Tue Jun 22 8:16:17 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from titan.metropolitan.at (mail.metropolitan.at [195.212.98.131]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7E3FB14F4E; Tue, 22 Jun 1999 08:15:56 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mladavac@metropolitan.at) Received: by TITAN with Internet Mail Service (5.0.1458.49) id ; Tue, 22 Jun 1999 17:18:55 +0200 Message-ID: <55586E7391ACD211B9730000C1100276179690@r-lmh-wi-100.corpnet.at> From: Ladavac Marino To: 'Marty C' , freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: RE: Custom Kernel Date: Tue, 22 Jun 1999 17:13:11 +0200 X-Priority: 3 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.0.1458.49) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > -----Original Message----- > From: Marty C [SMTP:lalala@globalserve.net] > Sent: Tuesday, June 22, 1999 12:44 PM > To: freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG > Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG > Subject: Custom Kernel > > Is there some type of utility program to help someone make a custom > kernel? [ML] Yes. Several, in fact. I prefer /usr/bin/vi :) > Does anyone out there have an already written "MYKERNEL" (or > know where > to get one etc...) for a kernel with sound support (sb16) on a > computer > that has an AMD-K6-2 cpu, a dual boot win98 (hda4) and FreeBSD > (wd0s1a) > hd (swap is wd0s1b), a floppy (fd0), a 32x Creative CROM (wcd0c), > 2x/6x > ACER CD-ReWriter (wcd1c), modem, Matrox Mystique G200 4MB, and a HP > DeskJet 672C printer? [ML] It is not that hard. Install kernel sources (sys source package) for your particular version of FreeBSD--I don't know which one since you did not tell, and my crystal ball is out for repair. Once you do that, cd /usr/src/sys/i386/conf cp GENERIC MYKERNEL vi MYKERNEL (and edit to taste; use LINT as a list/description of possible options; use man to find out what devices do--man sio explains sio, etc) config MYKERNEL cd ../../compile/MYKERNEL make depend make make install reboot Your Windows slice will be /dev/wd0s4 (slices are 1-based, IIRC), your modem will be /dev/cuaa0 if it is COM1, the rest should JustWork(TM). Since I don't know what a K6-2 is, I'd keep both 586 and 686 cpu lines in MYKERNEL > Is it true that FreeBSD was developed using MS Visual Basic 4.0? > (joke) [ML] Hey, careful about that--it is not a joke; it is a fact! If I didn't use my VB4.0 manuals and media to prop up the monitor, I'd have had such a horrible pain in the neck, and would not have been able to use, much less to develop on my FreeBSD box. And, please don't think I'm the only one to have found use for VB :) /Marino > -- > ======================================= > | from Martin, lalala@globalserve.net | > | -Destroyer of Hard Drives | > | -Mangler of partition tables | > | -Data's worst nightmare | > ======================================= > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Tue Jun 22 9: 1:24 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from fellspt.charm.net (fellspt.charm.net [199.0.70.29]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5B32B14C81 for ; Tue, 22 Jun 1999 09:01:16 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dutch@charm.net) Received: from charm.net (coretel-038.charm.net [209.143.116.38]) by fellspt.charm.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA04353 for ; Tue, 22 Jun 1999 12:01:14 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <376FB332.A8DC9F74@charm.net> Date: Tue, 22 Jun 1999 12:00:50 -0400 From: Dutch Collins X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.61 [en] (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-newbies Subject: New? Try this link to sysadmin Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org This is good stuff. Ohio has html, pdf, and ps copies of sysadmin http://wks.uts.ohio-state.edu/sysadm_course/sysadm.html -dutch -- +------------------------------------------------------+ | If you want to make god laugh - tell him your plans. | | Kim Basinger | | Voice Line: 410.922.5805 | +------------------------------------------------------+ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Tue Jun 22 10:22:23 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from chemistry.chem.utah.edu (chemistry.chem.utah.edu [128.110.197.226]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ACB25153AB for ; Tue, 22 Jun 1999 10:22:21 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from David.Beardall@chemistry.chem.utah.edu) Received: from beardall (beardall.chem.utah.edu [128.110.197.155]) by chemistry.chem.utah.edu (Postfix) with SMTP id B3D5B6DFB6; Tue, 22 Jun 1999 11:22:19 -0600 (MDT) Message-Id: <4.1.19990622111155.0091f260@chemistry.utah.edu> X-Sender: beardall@chemistry.utah.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.1 Date: Tue, 22 Jun 1999 11:17:59 +0000 To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org From: David Beardall Subject: PCMCIA card support? Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Dear Group, I have read (some of) the FreeBSD handbook and it doesn't include any PCMCIA information. I have a Gateway and want to attempt an FTP installation, but can't find if my Linksys EtherFast 10/100 PCI Cardbus in supported. The handbook indicates that the Linksys EtherPCI card -is- supported (but is that a PCMCIA card?) How often does the handbook get updated (i.e.- is there a recent driver that had been written that hasn't been included in the handbook) ? Sincerely, David Beardall ------------------------- David Beardall Department of Chemistry University of Utah 315 South 1400 East Rm. Dock Salt Lake City, UT 84112-0850 Phone 801-581-6285 Fax 801-585-3207 E-mail David.Beardall@chemistry.utah.edu To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Tue Jun 22 18: 7:43 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from phoenix.welearn.com.au (phoenix.welearn.com.au [139.130.44.81]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C915E14E43 for ; Tue, 22 Jun 1999 18:07:38 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from sue@phoenix.welearn.com.au) Received: (from sue@localhost) by phoenix.welearn.com.au (8.9.1/8.9.0) id LAA28562; Wed, 23 Jun 1999 11:07:28 +1000 (EST) Message-ID: <19990623110719.57338@welearn.com.au> Date: Wed, 23 Jun 1999 11:07:19 +1000 From: Sue Blake To: David Beardall Cc: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Subject: Re: PCMCIA card support? References: <4.1.19990622111155.0091f260@chemistry.utah.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.88e In-Reply-To: <4.1.19990622111155.0091f260@chemistry.utah.edu>; from David Beardall on Tue, Jun 22, 1999 at 11:17:59AM +0000 Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Tue, Jun 22, 1999 at 11:17:59AM +0000, David Beardall wrote: > Dear Group, > I have read (some of) the FreeBSD handbook and it doesn't include any > PCMCIA information. I have a Gateway and want to attempt an FTP > installation, but can't find if my Linksys EtherFast 10/100 PCI Cardbus in > supported. The handbook indicates that the Linksys EtherPCI card -is- > supported (but is that a PCMCIA card?) Hi David Your "where to find it" post is a good one for freebsd-newbies. In this case, though, I suggest asking in the support mailing list freebsd-questions@freebsd.org (you don't have to subscribe first). Newbies aren't likely to be able to help (well, I can't :-), but you'll probably get a quick reliable answer from freebsd-questions, where a lot of them use similar equipment. > How often does the handbook get > updated (i.e.- is there a recent driver that had been written that hasn't > been included in the handbook) ? The handbook gets updated each time a volunteer submits some new material or some changes. If you have information that you think should be included or updated, send details to the Documentation Project's mailing list freebsd-doc@freebsd.org and someone will look at it. Feeback is always appreciated too. -- Regards, -*Sue*- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Tue Jun 22 21:36:39 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from hotmail.com (law-f24.hotmail.com [209.185.131.87]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 7853814BB8 for ; Tue, 22 Jun 1999 21:36:38 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dunaedain@hotmail.com) Received: (qmail 34320 invoked by uid 0); 23 Jun 1999 04:36:37 -0000 Message-ID: <19990623043637.34319.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 206.18.107.226 by www.hotmail.com with HTTP; Tue, 22 Jun 1999 21:36:37 PDT X-Originating-IP: [206.18.107.226] From: lachlan kanaley To: FreeBSD-Newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: BSD vs. Linux Date: Tue, 22 Jun 1999 21:36:37 PDT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org hello i was wondering if anyone could compare the different BSD operating systems and linux and tell me which is better / differences between: FreeBSD NetBSD OpenBSD Linux I've been using linux for over two years and am a bit sick of it and where it is headed - so any help would be appreciated. lachlan ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Tue Jun 22 23: 9:27 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from bootes.ebtech.net (bootes.ebtech.net [142.250.0.12]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6AC4914E52 for ; Tue, 22 Jun 1999 23:09:25 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from paul@geeky1.ebtech.net) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by bootes.ebtech.net (8.8.5/8.6.9) with UUCP id BAA23633; Wed, 23 Jun 1999 01:13:27 -0400 Received: from localhost (paul@localhost) by geeky1.ebtech.net (8.9.0/8.9.0) with SMTP id BAA20100; Wed, 23 Jun 1999 01:15:34 -0400 Date: Wed, 23 Jun 1999 01:15:33 -0400 (EDT) From: Paul Anderson To: lachlan kanaley Cc: FreeBSD-Newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: BSD vs. Linux In-Reply-To: <19990623043637.34319.qmail@hotmail.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Tue, 22 Jun 1999, lachlan kanaley wrote: > i was wondering if anyone could compare the different BSD operating systems > and linux and tell me which is better / differences between: > The only concrete, provable advice: use what you like. > I've been using linux for over two years and am a bit sick of it and where > it is headed - so any help would be appreciated. > Oh? E-mail me your concerns, and we can discuss them... --- Paul Anderson - Self-employed Megalomaniac paul@geeky1.ebtech.net Member of the Sarnia Linux User's Group http://www.sar-net.com/slug http://zephyr.sellad.on.ca/~paul Not so close... you might end up orbiting me. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Wed Jun 23 6:37:52 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from pop01.globecomm.net (pop01.globecomm.net [206.253.129.185]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DB06515227 for ; Wed, 23 Jun 1999 06:37:47 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from zen@buddhist.com) Received: from WhizKid (r2.bfm.org [208.18.213.98]) by pop01.globecomm.net (8.9.0/8.8.0) with SMTP id JAA00493; Wed, 23 Jun 1999 09:37:07 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.19990623083742.00991d90@mail.bfm.org> X-Sender: stanislav@mail.bfm.org (Unverified) X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.6 (32) Date: Wed, 23 Jun 1999 08:37:42 -0500 To: lachlan kanaley , FreeBSD-Newbies@FreeBSD.ORG From: "G. Adam Stanislav" Subject: Re: BSD vs. Linux In-Reply-To: <19990623043637.34319.qmail@hotmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org At 21:36 22-06-1999 PDT, lachlan kanaley wrote: >hello >i was wondering if anyone could compare the different BSD operating systems >and linux and tell me which is better / differences between: >FreeBSD >NetBSD >OpenBSD >Linux They are all better, depending on what you need. Adam --- Gracula v3.0 just released. Don't miss it. Visit Count Gracula's Gallery: http://www.whizkidtech.net/gcl/gallery/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Fri Jun 25 19:30:34 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from phoenix.welearn.com.au (phoenix.welearn.com.au [139.130.44.81]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7041915513 for ; Fri, 25 Jun 1999 19:30:24 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from sue@phoenix.welearn.com.au) Received: (from sue@localhost) by phoenix.welearn.com.au (8.9.1/8.9.0) id MAA14315 for freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org; Sat, 26 Jun 1999 12:30:12 +1000 (EST) Date: Sat, 26 Jun 1999 12:30:12 +1000 (EST) From: Sue Blake Message-Id: <199906260230.MAA14315@phoenix.welearn.com.au> To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Subject: FreeBSD Newbies First Aid Kit Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org FreeBSD-Newbies First Aid Kit (Last updated 30 August 1998) (This is a regular posting to the FreeBSD-Newbies mailing list. It is also available at http://www.welearn.com.au/freebsd/newbies/) FreeBSD-Questions@FreeBSD.ORG is the place to send all questions about installing, configuring, running and using FreeBSD. All help requests are handled by FreeBSD-Questions, including newbies questions. FreeBSD-Newbies is different. We don't ask for help or answer how-to questions. It is a discussion forum for newbies. FreeBSD-Newbies provides a place for new FreeBSD users to meet and covers any of the activities of newbies that are not already dealt with elsewhere. Examples include helping each other to learn more on our own, finding and using resources, problem solving techniques, how to seek help elsewhere, how to use mailing lists and which lists to use, general chat, making mistakes, boasting, sharing ideas, stories, moral (but not technical) support, and taking an active part in the FreeBSD community. We take our problems and support questions to freebsd-questions, and use freebsd-newbies to meet others who are doing the same things that we do as newbies. One of the things we do together is learn more effective ways to find help when we need it. Here are some suggestions: When something doesn't work the way you expect 1. First look at the errata for your release of FreeBSD at http://www.FreeBSD.ORG/releases/ for the latest information and security advisories. 2. Search the Handbook, FAQ, and mail archives at http://www.FreeBSD.ORG/search.html 3. If you still have a question or problem, collect the output of `uname -a' and of any relevant program(s) and email your question to FreeBSD-questions@FreeBSD.ORG. Mailing lists When you have a problem that you can't solve by yourself, there's only one support mailing list and that's FreeBSD-questions@FreeBSD.ORG. FreeBSD-questions helps with installation and basic setup as well as more general and advanced questions. You don't have to actually join freebsd-questions before asking a question there. Replies to your question will normally be sent to you personally as well as to the list. Just make sure you have read and followed the guidelines for posting, because you might find them different to what you're used to. If you do subscribe to freebsd-questions you'll have the advantage of seeing all of the recent questions and their answers. Before you post to FreeBSD-questions, please read the guidelines at http://www.lemis.com/questions.html Many of the people who answer FreeBSD-questions are very knowledgeable, but they get frustrated when they get questions which are difficult to understand. http://www.lemis.com/email.html is worth reading too. If you're not sure that you can follow these guidelines, come back and ask the other newbies for help on how to post an effective question to the support mailing list. Maybe your question has been asked before. If you search the mailing list archives at http://www.freebsd.org/search.html first you might get the answer right away. It's always worth trying. Other mailing lists (http://www.freebsd.org/handbook/eresources.html#ERESOURCES-CHARTERS) cover specialised areas and many are more developer-oriented. You'll need to read their charters carefully before participating, but it's probably a good idea to ask on either -newbies or -questions for advice about where to post a more specialised question. FreeBSD-announce is a very low volume read-only list for occasional announcements, such as notice of new releases, and the Really Quick Newsletter. It's worth subscribing to FreeBSD-announce too. Manuals You'll always be expected to show that you have made some effort to use the available documentation before asking for help. That's not always as easy as it sounds! If you know what documentation you need but can't locate it, send a brief query to FreeBSD-questions. If you don't know what you need, always have trouble finding it, or can't make any sense of it when you do, ask some patient newbies to steer you in the right direction. Anyone interested in writing or reviewing documentation for FreeBSD is encouraged to join the FreeBSD Documentation Project. Details are at http://www.freebsd.org/docproj/docproj.html Other resources A resource list is available at http://www.freebsd.org/projects/newbies.html to help new and inexperienced FreeBSD users to find relevant information quickly. It includes books, on line documents and tutorials, and links to web pages that other newbies have found useful for learning. If you have a suggestion for good material to be included, please write to freebsd-newbies and tell us about it. But I have seen people asking questions here! It is quite common for people to send the wrong kind of post to a mailing list. Because we're newbies it'll certainly happen here from time to time. The best thing to do if you see a message that doesn't belong on a list is to ignore it. There's always someone around whose job it is to sort these problems out privately. The posts to the lists go straight through, whatever their content. It is going to be confusing for a little while because we're all newbies so we all make mistakes. That's OK. One thing we're going to see a fair bit is people posting questions, believing they're doing the right thing by posting here as newbies, not realising how it works. If someone answers those questions the situation will snowball. There's nothing wrong with helping someone to redirect their question to freebsd-questions, but please do so gently. There's nothing wrong with the occasional mistake either. So all questions, requests for help, etc still go to freebsd-questions as usual. Ours is more of a discussion group, a place where newbies can relax with other newbies and focus more on our successes than on our temporary imperfection. We can talk about things here that are not allowed on freebsd-questions. We're also a bit freer to make the mistakes that we need to make in order to learn. _________________________________________________________________ To Subscribe to FreeBSD-Newbies: Send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "subscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message. Mail sent to freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org appears on the mailing list. _________________________________________________________________ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message