From owner-freebsd-newbies Sun Jul 11 8:52: 5 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from uhura.concentric.net (uhura.concentric.net [206.173.118.93]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1293C14A2D for ; Sun, 11 Jul 1999 08:52:03 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mlduke@marconi.concentric.net) Received: from cliff.concentric.net (cliff [206.173.118.90]) by uhura.concentric.net (8.9.1a/(98/12/15 5.12)) id LAA28913; Sun, 11 Jul 1999 11:49:34 -0400 (EDT) [1-800-745-2747 The Concentric Network] Received: from ts004d37.mer-id.concentric.net (ts004d37.mer-id.concentric.net [206.173.184.193]) by cliff.concentric.net (8.9.1a) id LAA00208; Sun, 11 Jul 1999 11:51:24 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sun, 11 Jul 1999 09:54:21 -0600 (MDT) From: ML Duke X-Sender: mlduke@concentric.net To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Subject: A Very Interesting Article Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Has been released. It is obviously the authority on current and future Unix systems development, definitely a must read for anyone who wants to be in the know. But, it's rather long, so I've posted it at: http://www.opseeds.com/unixstuff.htm ML Duke To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Mon Jul 12 5:20: 4 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from colibri.cpqd.com.br (colibri.cpqd.com.br [200.231.0.33]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5DA1814DAF for ; Mon, 12 Jul 1999 05:19:55 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from cosenza@cpqd.com.br) Received: from cpqd.com.br (intrepid.cpqd.com.br [10.202.40.101]) by colibri.cpqd.com.br (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id JAA04095 for ; Mon, 12 Jul 1999 09:13:34 -0300 (EST) Message-ID: <3789DCCC.9AA66FEB@cpqd.com.br> Date: Mon, 12 Jul 1999 09:17:16 -0300 From: Jose Antonio Cosenza Organization: Fundacao CPqD X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.6 [en] (X11; I; SunOS 5.5.1 sun4m) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: FreeBSD Newbies First Aid Kit References: <199907100230.MAA16818@phoenix.welearn.com.au> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Cool. I'm going to FreeBSD-Questions@FreeBSD.ORG. David, thanks for the help. Jose A. Cosenza Sue Blake wrote: > FreeBSD-Newbies First Aid Kit > (Last updated 30 August 1998) > > (This is a regular posting to the FreeBSD-Newbies mailing list. > It is also available at http://www.welearn.com.au/freebsd/newbies/) > > FreeBSD-Questions@FreeBSD.ORG is the place to send all questions about > installing, configuring, running and using FreeBSD. All help requests > are handled by FreeBSD-Questions, including newbies questions. > > FreeBSD-Newbies is different. We don't ask for help or answer how-to > questions. It is a discussion forum for newbies. > > FreeBSD-Newbies provides a place for new FreeBSD users to meet and > covers any of the activities of newbies that are not already dealt > with elsewhere. Examples include helping each other to learn more on > our own, finding and using resources, problem solving techniques, how > to seek help elsewhere, how to use mailing lists and which lists to > use, general chat, making mistakes, boasting, sharing ideas, stories, > moral (but not technical) support, and taking an active part in the > FreeBSD community. We take our problems and support questions to > freebsd-questions, and use freebsd-newbies to meet others who are > doing the same things that we do as newbies. > > One of the things we do together is learn more effective ways to find > help when we need it. Here are some suggestions: > > When something doesn't work the way you expect > > 1. First look at the errata for your release of FreeBSD at > http://www.FreeBSD.ORG/releases/ for the latest information and > security advisories. > 2. Search the Handbook, FAQ, and mail archives at > http://www.FreeBSD.ORG/search.html > 3. If you still have a question or problem, collect the output of > `uname -a' and of any relevant program(s) and email your question > to FreeBSD-questions@FreeBSD.ORG. > > Mailing lists > > When you have a problem that you can't solve by yourself, there's only > one support mailing list and that's FreeBSD-questions@FreeBSD.ORG. > FreeBSD-questions helps with installation and basic setup as well as > more general and advanced questions. > > You don't have to actually join freebsd-questions before asking a > question there. Replies to your question will normally be sent to you > personally as well as to the list. Just make sure you have read and > followed the guidelines for posting, because you might find them > different to what you're used to. If you do subscribe to > freebsd-questions you'll have the advantage of seeing all of the > recent questions and their answers. > > Before you post to FreeBSD-questions, please read the guidelines at > http://www.lemis.com/questions.html Many of the people who answer > FreeBSD-questions are very knowledgeable, but they get frustrated when > they get questions which are difficult to understand. > http://www.lemis.com/email.html is worth reading too. > > If you're not sure that you can follow these guidelines, come back and > ask the other newbies for help on how to post an effective question to > the support mailing list. > > Maybe your question has been asked before. If you search the mailing > list archives at http://www.freebsd.org/search.html first you might > get the answer right away. It's always worth trying. > > Other mailing lists > (http://www.freebsd.org/handbook/eresources.html#ERESOURCES-CHARTERS) > cover specialised areas and many are more developer-oriented. You'll > need to read their charters carefully before participating, but it's > probably a good idea to ask on either -newbies or -questions for > advice about where to post a more specialised question. > > FreeBSD-announce is a very low volume read-only list for occasional > announcements, such as notice of new releases, and the Really Quick > Newsletter. It's worth subscribing to FreeBSD-announce too. > > Manuals > > You'll always be expected to show that you have made some effort to > use the available documentation before asking for help. That's not > always as easy as it sounds! > > If you know what documentation you need but can't locate it, send a > brief query to FreeBSD-questions. If you don't know what you need, > always have trouble finding it, or can't make any sense of it when you > do, ask some patient newbies to steer you in the right direction. > > Anyone interested in writing or reviewing documentation for FreeBSD is > encouraged to join the FreeBSD Documentation Project. Details are at > http://www.freebsd.org/docproj/docproj.html > > Other resources > > A resource list is available at > http://www.freebsd.org/projects/newbies.html to help new and > inexperienced FreeBSD users to find relevant information quickly. It > includes books, on line documents and tutorials, and links to web > pages that other newbies have found useful for learning. If you have a > suggestion for good material to be included, please write to > freebsd-newbies and tell us about it. > > But I have seen people asking questions here! > > It is quite common for people to send the wrong kind of post to a > mailing list. Because we're newbies it'll certainly happen here from > time to time. The best thing to do if you see a message that doesn't > belong on a list is to ignore it. There's always someone around whose > job it is to sort these problems out privately. > > The posts to the lists go straight through, whatever their content. It > is going to be confusing for a little while because we're all newbies > so we all make mistakes. That's OK. > > One thing we're going to see a fair bit is people posting questions, > believing they're doing the right thing by posting here as newbies, > not realising how it works. If someone answers those questions the > situation will snowball. There's nothing wrong with helping someone to > redirect their question to freebsd-questions, but please do so gently. > There's nothing wrong with the occasional mistake either. > > So all questions, requests for help, etc still go to freebsd-questions > as usual. Ours is more of a discussion group, a place where newbies > can relax with other newbies and focus more on our successes than on > our temporary imperfection. We can talk about things here that are not > allowed on freebsd-questions. We're also a bit freer to make the > mistakes that we need to make in order to learn. > _________________________________________________________________ > > To Subscribe to FreeBSD-Newbies: > Send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "subscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message. > > Mail sent to freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org appears on the mailing list. > _________________________________________________________________ > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Mon Jul 12 10: 2:45 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from binky.de.uu.net (binky.de.uu.net [192.76.144.28]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 20E9C150EC for ; Mon, 12 Jul 1999 10:02:24 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from hk@thuer.slf.uunet.de) Received: from thuer.slf.uunet.de (pec-19-126.tnt2.b.uunet.de [149.225.19.126]) by binky.de.uu.net (5.5.5/5.5.5) with ESMTP id TAA07389 for ; Mon, 12 Jul 1999 19:02:07 +0200 (MET DST) Received: (from hk@localhost) by thuer.slf.uunet.de (8.9.2/8.9.2) id SAA00307 for freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org; Mon, 12 Jul 1999 18:43:27 +0200 (CEST) Date: Mon, 12 Jul 1999 18:43:27 +0200 From: Harald Kretzschmar To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Subject: pgp 2.6.3i question Message-ID: <19990712184327.A287@thuer.slf.uunet.de> Reply-To: Harald Kretzschmar Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.6i Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi, because I didn't found a binary packages for pgp I've installed the sources and compiled them. I got a working binary with the output -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.3ia iQCVAwUBN4oYJpFBolYbWt15AQFAS...... The version number 2.6.3ia is different from my Debian Linux where I get only Version: 2.6.3i. Any ideas what's the difference between 2.6.3ia and 2.3.6i ? bye Harald -- E-Mail: hk@thuer.slf.uunet.de [BSD-UNIX #3 UserID FBSD040654 (i686)] To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Mon Jul 12 15:10:57 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from owl.INS.CWRU.Edu (owl.INS.CWRU.Edu [129.22.8.26]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1333E1526A for ; Mon, 12 Jul 1999 15:10:55 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ba793@owl.INS.CWRU.Edu) Received: (ba793@localhost) by owl.INS.CWRU.Edu (8.8.6+cwru/CWRU-2.5-bsdi) id SAA03828; Mon, 12 Jul 1999 18:09:18 -0400 (EDT) (from ba793) Message-Id: <199907122209.SAA03828@owl.INS.CWRU.Edu> Date: Mon, 12 Jul 1999 18:09:18 -0400 (EDT) From: ba793@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Hamid Dastkar) To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Subject: Re: pgp 2.6.3i question Reply-To: ba793@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Hamid Dastkar) X-No-Archive: yes Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Reply to message from hk@thuer.slf.uunet.de of Mon, 12 Jul > >Hi, > >because I didn't found a binary packages for pgp I've installed >the sources and compiled them. >I got a working binary with the output > >-----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- >Version: 2.6.3ia > >iQCVAwUBN4oYJpFBolYbWt15AQFAS...... > >The version number 2.6.3ia is different from my Debian Linux where >I get only Version: 2.6.3i. >Any ideas what's the difference between 2.6.3ia and 2.3.6i ? I don't know what the differences are, but along with the source code, aren't there any files (e.g. README, diff.src, ...) that would somehow mention the differences between i and ia for FreeBSD/Linux or your platform)? Maybe you can diff between the source code for i (if handy) and ia for the real differences. How about the PGP web site www.pgp.com if helpful? >bye Harald >-- >E-Mail: hk@thuer.slf.uunet.de >[BSD-UNIX #3 UserID FBSD040654 (i686)] > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Wed Jul 14 0:29:29 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from maillist.kabelfoon.nl (maillist.kabelfoon.nl [194.178.9.136]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A31C614EBA for ; Wed, 14 Jul 1999 00:29:25 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from wleistra@caiw.nl) Received: from [192.168.8.121] (unknown [192.168.8.121]) by maillist.kabelfoon.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9C2D43AC3 for ; Wed, 14 Jul 1999 09:28:39 +0200 (CEST) X-Sender: wleistra@192.168.1.133 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Wed, 14 Jul 1999 09:24:56 +0200 To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org From: "W. 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To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Thu Jul 15 1:37:45 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mail.rdc2.occa.home.com (ha1.rdc2.occa.home.com [24.2.8.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F308E15440 for ; Thu, 15 Jul 1999 01:37:39 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from rbettle@criterion-group.com) Received: from criterion-group.com ([24.5.44.161]) by mail.rdc2.occa.home.com (InterMail v4.01.01.00 201-229-111) with ESMTP id <19990715083738.KYWX18261.mail.rdc2.occa.home.com@criterion-group.com> for ; Thu, 15 Jul 1999 01:37:38 -0700 Message-ID: <378D9E3C.C947278E@criterion-group.com> Date: Thu, 15 Jul 1999 01:39:24 -0700 From: Roy Bettle X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.6 [en] (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: FreeBSD-newbies@FreeBSD.org Subject: subscribe FreeBSD-newbies Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------CA14A5C8F334984788F54885" Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------CA14A5C8F334984788F54885 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit --------------CA14A5C8F334984788F54885 Content-Type: text/x-vcard; charset=us-ascii; name="rbettle.vcf" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Description: Card for Roy Bettle Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="rbettle.vcf" begin:vcard n:Bettle;Roy tel;work:(949) 452-1203 x-mozilla-html:FALSE url:http://www.criterion-group.com org:Criterion Group, Inc. version:2.1 email;internet:rbettle@criterion-group.com title:President note:Businesses that depend on computers, depend on us. adr;quoted-printable:;;26895 Aliso Creek Road=0D=0ASuite B404;Aliso Viejo;CA;92656;USA fn:Bettle, Roy end:vcard --------------CA14A5C8F334984788F54885-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Thu Jul 15 10:40:54 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from darius.concentric.net (darius.concentric.net [207.155.198.79]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9DD9914EA7 for ; Thu, 15 Jul 1999 10:40:44 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mlduke@marconi.concentric.net) Received: from mcfeely.concentric.net (mcfeely [207.155.198.83]) by darius.concentric.net (8.9.1a/(98/12/15 5.12)) id NAA12824; Thu, 15 Jul 1999 13:40:37 -0400 (EDT) [1-800-745-2747 The Concentric Network] Received: from ts003d24.mer-id.concentric.net (ts003d24.mer-id.concentric.net [206.173.184.132]) by mcfeely.concentric.net (8.9.1a) id NAA03910; Thu, 15 Jul 1999 13:40:36 -0400 (EDT) Date: Thu, 15 Jul 1999 11:43:01 -0600 (MDT) From: ML Duke X-Sender: mlduke@concentric.net To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Subject: Idiot on Board Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I'm a two year old newbie and feel like an idiot. I've installed 3, maybe 4, FBSD versions and configured them to work, albiet with help, and recently made the divorce from mscrash complete and I do _all_ of my real live work in FBSD as in make a living in Unix. And now, I find myself unable to mount and unmount a floppy file system, read the contents of a floppy, or get the current 1.44 floppy disk out of the drive, and I've been reading docs for the past three hours straight (for the record, this is not a question--it's a rant). In preparation for loading up a new box with 3.2 and giving this aged 486DX4/100 to my daughter, I did: #tar cvpf /dev/rfd0 /etc with a 1.44 floppy in the drive and that worked and took the floppy out and put a new one in and did: #tar cvpf /dev/rfd0 /usr/local/etc and that worked and put in another floppy and did: #tar cvpf /dev/rfd0 /var/spool /var/db/pkg and that didn't work and that floppy is now stuck in the drive as in the eject button works and the floppy comes loose, but will not release from the drive. So, should anyone else ever do anything stupid, and forget what you knew 2 years ago, and find yourself surrounded with endless reams of documentation and _still_ can't find the answer--find comfort in the fact that you have some company. (Which I'm fully aware is no help, at all.) ML Duke To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Thu Jul 15 13:42:26 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from uhura.concentric.net (uhura.concentric.net [206.173.118.93]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0A31B155D1 for ; Thu, 15 Jul 1999 13:42:09 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mlduke@marconi.concentric.net) Received: from marconi.concentric.net (marconi [206.173.118.71]) by uhura.concentric.net (8.9.1a/(98/12/15 5.12)) id QAA20356; Thu, 15 Jul 1999 16:36:19 -0400 (EDT) [1-800-745-2747 The Concentric Network] Received: from ts004d36.mer-id.concentric.net (ts004d36.mer-id.concentric.net [206.173.184.192]) by marconi.concentric.net (8.9.1a) id QAA28379; Thu, 15 Jul 1999 16:39:58 -0400 (EDT) Date: Thu, 15 Jul 1999 14:42:27 -0600 (MDT) From: ML Duke X-Sender: mlduke@concentric.net To: "G. Adam Stanislav" Cc: ML Duke , freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Idiot on Board In-Reply-To: <3.0.6.32.19990715152642.009ffc30@mail.bfm.org> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Vise Guy, a? S'allright. Been there, done that. Duke On Thu, 15 Jul 1999, G. Adam Stanislav wrote: > At 11:43 15-07-1999 -0600, ML Duke wrote: > >I'm a two year old newbie and feel like an idiot. I've installed 3, > >maybe 4, FBSD versions and configured them to work, albiet with help, > > If you're a two-year-old and already did all that, you should feel like a > genius! Heck, even Mozart could not do that at so young an age. :-) > > Adam > --- > Gracula v3.0 just released. Don't miss it. > Visit Count Gracula's Gallery: > http://www.whizkidtech.net/gcl/gallery/ > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Thu Jul 15 15:21: 4 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from fellspt.charm.net (fellspt.charm.net [199.0.70.29]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5054415179 for ; Thu, 15 Jul 1999 15:20:57 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dutch@charm.net) Received: from charm.net (coretel-115-237.charm.net [209.143.115.237]) by fellspt.charm.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id SAA07242; Thu, 15 Jul 1999 18:19:46 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <378E5E62.62ADE5B6@charm.net> Date: Thu, 15 Jul 1999 18:19:14 -0400 From: Dutch Collins X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.61 [en] (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: ML Duke Cc: freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Idiot on Board References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I have 2 feet of written documentation and I have done things that seem like I never read a single page. I don't think it is a closed club. Fun! ML Duke wrote: > > I'm a two year old newbie and feel like an idiot. I've installed 3, > maybe 4, FBSD versions and configured them to work, albiet with help, > and recently made the divorce from mscrash complete and I do _all_ > of my real live work in FBSD as in make a living in Unix. > > And now, I find myself unable to mount and unmount a floppy file > system, read the contents of a floppy, or get the current 1.44 floppy > disk out of the drive, and I've been reading docs for the past three > hours straight (for the record, this is not a question--it's a rant). > > In preparation for loading up a new box with 3.2 and giving this aged > 486DX4/100 to my daughter, I did: > > #tar cvpf /dev/rfd0 /etc > > with a 1.44 floppy in the drive and that worked and took the floppy > out and put a new one in and did: > > #tar cvpf /dev/rfd0 /usr/local/etc > > and that worked and put in another floppy and did: > > #tar cvpf /dev/rfd0 /var/spool /var/db/pkg > > and that didn't work and that floppy is now stuck in the drive as in the > eject button works and the floppy comes loose, but will not release > from the drive. > > So, should anyone else ever do anything stupid, and forget what you > knew 2 years ago, and find yourself surrounded with endless reams of > documentation and _still_ can't find the answer--find comfort in the > fact that you have some company. (Which I'm fully aware is no help, > at all.) > > ML Duke > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message -- +------------------------------------------------------+ | If you want to make god laugh - tell him your plans. | | Kim Basinger | | Voice Line: 410.922.5805 | +------------------------------------------------------+ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Thu Jul 15 20:35: 6 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from cc942873-a.ewndsr1.nj.home.com (cc942873-a.ewndsr1.nj.home.com [24.2.89.207]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C5B8614E64 for ; Thu, 15 Jul 1999 20:34:56 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from cjc@cc942873-a.ewndsr1.nj.home.com) Received: (from cjc@localhost) by cc942873-a.ewndsr1.nj.home.com (8.9.3/8.8.8) id XAA22849; Thu, 15 Jul 1999 23:35:56 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from cjc) From: "Crist J. Clark" Message-Id: <199907160335.XAA22849@cc942873-a.ewndsr1.nj.home.com> Subject: Re: Idiot on Board In-Reply-To: from ML Duke at "Jul 15, 99 11:43:01 am" To: mlduke@concentric.net (ML Duke) Date: Thu, 15 Jul 1999 23:35:56 -0400 (EDT) Cc: freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Reply-To: cjclark@home.com X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL40 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org ML Duke wrote, [snip] > and that didn't work and that floppy is now stuck in the drive as in the > eject button works and the floppy comes loose, but will not release > from the drive. Sounds like broken hardware. I don't see what good it will do to read FreeBSD docs. It's like your car engine throwing a rod and looking in the operating instructions for the stereo for how to fix it. Or am I not understanding the problem. I actually had something like that happen to me the other day. The edge of the label had peeled over and stuck on some internal surfaces. Just had to get a pliers and *gently* draw out the floppy. -- Crist J. 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= ------=_NextPart_000_0099_01BECFA5.C9F23600-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Fri Jul 16 19:30:26 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from phoenix.welearn.com.au (phoenix.welearn.com.au [139.130.44.81]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B208414EAA for ; Fri, 16 Jul 1999 19:30:19 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from sue@phoenix.welearn.com.au) Received: (from sue@localhost) by phoenix.welearn.com.au (8.9.1/8.9.0) id MAA08260 for freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org; Sat, 17 Jul 1999 12:30:14 +1000 (EST) Date: Sat, 17 Jul 1999 12:30:14 +1000 (EST) From: Sue Blake Message-Id: <199907170230.MAA08260@phoenix.welearn.com.au> To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Subject: FreeBSD Newbies First Aid Kit Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org FreeBSD-Newbies First Aid Kit (Last updated 30 August 1998) (This is a regular posting to the FreeBSD-Newbies mailing list. It is also available at http://www.welearn.com.au/freebsd/newbies/) FreeBSD-Questions@FreeBSD.ORG is the place to send all questions about installing, configuring, running and using FreeBSD. All help requests are handled by FreeBSD-Questions, including newbies questions. FreeBSD-Newbies is different. We don't ask for help or answer how-to questions. It is a discussion forum for newbies. FreeBSD-Newbies provides a place for new FreeBSD users to meet and covers any of the activities of newbies that are not already dealt with elsewhere. Examples include helping each other to learn more on our own, finding and using resources, problem solving techniques, how to seek help elsewhere, how to use mailing lists and which lists to use, general chat, making mistakes, boasting, sharing ideas, stories, moral (but not technical) support, and taking an active part in the FreeBSD community. We take our problems and support questions to freebsd-questions, and use freebsd-newbies to meet others who are doing the same things that we do as newbies. One of the things we do together is learn more effective ways to find help when we need it. Here are some suggestions: When something doesn't work the way you expect 1. First look at the errata for your release of FreeBSD at http://www.FreeBSD.ORG/releases/ for the latest information and security advisories. 2. Search the Handbook, FAQ, and mail archives at http://www.FreeBSD.ORG/search.html 3. If you still have a question or problem, collect the output of `uname -a' and of any relevant program(s) and email your question to FreeBSD-questions@FreeBSD.ORG. Mailing lists When you have a problem that you can't solve by yourself, there's only one support mailing list and that's FreeBSD-questions@FreeBSD.ORG. FreeBSD-questions helps with installation and basic setup as well as more general and advanced questions. You don't have to actually join freebsd-questions before asking a question there. Replies to your question will normally be sent to you personally as well as to the list. Just make sure you have read and followed the guidelines for posting, because you might find them different to what you're used to. If you do subscribe to freebsd-questions you'll have the advantage of seeing all of the recent questions and their answers. Before you post to FreeBSD-questions, please read the guidelines at http://www.lemis.com/questions.html Many of the people who answer FreeBSD-questions are very knowledgeable, but they get frustrated when they get questions which are difficult to understand. http://www.lemis.com/email.html is worth reading too. If you're not sure that you can follow these guidelines, come back and ask the other newbies for help on how to post an effective question to the support mailing list. Maybe your question has been asked before. If you search the mailing list archives at http://www.freebsd.org/search.html first you might get the answer right away. It's always worth trying. Other mailing lists (http://www.freebsd.org/handbook/eresources.html#ERESOURCES-CHARTERS) cover specialised areas and many are more developer-oriented. You'll need to read their charters carefully before participating, but it's probably a good idea to ask on either -newbies or -questions for advice about where to post a more specialised question. FreeBSD-announce is a very low volume read-only list for occasional announcements, such as notice of new releases, and the Really Quick Newsletter. It's worth subscribing to FreeBSD-announce too. Manuals You'll always be expected to show that you have made some effort to use the available documentation before asking for help. That's not always as easy as it sounds! If you know what documentation you need but can't locate it, send a brief query to FreeBSD-questions. If you don't know what you need, always have trouble finding it, or can't make any sense of it when you do, ask some patient newbies to steer you in the right direction. Anyone interested in writing or reviewing documentation for FreeBSD is encouraged to join the FreeBSD Documentation Project. Details are at http://www.freebsd.org/docproj/docproj.html Other resources A resource list is available at http://www.freebsd.org/projects/newbies.html to help new and inexperienced FreeBSD users to find relevant information quickly. It includes books, on line documents and tutorials, and links to web pages that other newbies have found useful for learning. If you have a suggestion for good material to be included, please write to freebsd-newbies and tell us about it. But I have seen people asking questions here! It is quite common for people to send the wrong kind of post to a mailing list. Because we're newbies it'll certainly happen here from time to time. The best thing to do if you see a message that doesn't belong on a list is to ignore it. There's always someone around whose job it is to sort these problems out privately. The posts to the lists go straight through, whatever their content. It is going to be confusing for a little while because we're all newbies so we all make mistakes. That's OK. One thing we're going to see a fair bit is people posting questions, believing they're doing the right thing by posting here as newbies, not realising how it works. If someone answers those questions the situation will snowball. There's nothing wrong with helping someone to redirect their question to freebsd-questions, but please do so gently. There's nothing wrong with the occasional mistake either. So all questions, requests for help, etc still go to freebsd-questions as usual. Ours is more of a discussion group, a place where newbies can relax with other newbies and focus more on our successes than on our temporary imperfection. We can talk about things here that are not allowed on freebsd-questions. We're also a bit freer to make the mistakes that we need to make in order to learn. _________________________________________________________________ To Subscribe to FreeBSD-Newbies: Send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "subscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message. 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Thank You ! _____________________________________________________________ http://www.zipmail.com.br O e-mail que vai aonde voc=EA est=E1. _____________________________________________________________ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Sat Jul 17 22:30:20 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from vicosa.dpi.ufv.br (vicosa.dpi.ufv.br [200.17.74.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 169D014C29 for ; Sat, 17 Jul 1999 22:30:15 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from grios@ddsecurity.com.br) Received: from ddsecurity.com.br ([200.236.148.105]) by vicosa.dpi.ufv.br (AIX4.2/UCB 8.7/8.7) with ESMTP id CAA25328 for ; Sun, 18 Jul 1999 02:28:18 -0300 (GRNLNDST) Message-ID: <37913A50.92361656@ddsecurity.com.br> Date: Sun, 18 Jul 1999 02:22:08 +0000 From: Gustavo V G C Rios X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.51 [en] (X11; I; FreeBSD 3.2-STABLE i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Subject: Stopping cron from sending mail Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I have a crontab entry, and cron always sends me mail after it executes that entry! How can i stop it from sending me mail? -- What about something different this year: Crash your FreeBSD box! To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message