From owner-freebsd-newbies Sun Aug 8 11:52:53 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from pefletti.saunalahti.fi (mail.sci.fi [195.74.0.53]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 00CF514BD6 for ; Sun, 8 Aug 1999 11:52:42 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from sjuke@saunalahti.fi) Received: from sjukebox.home (MDCXXVI.dyn.saunalahti.fi [195.197.5.126]) by pefletti.saunalahti.fi (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id VAA02395 for ; Sun, 8 Aug 1999 21:49:59 +0300 (EET DST) Message-ID: X-Mailer: XFMail 1.3 [p0] on FreeBSD X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Sun, 08 Aug 1999 21:48:38 +0300 (EEST) Reply-To: juksi@iname.com From: Jukka Simila To: newbies@FreeBSD.org Subject: testing, testing... Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi. I've had some hard time trying to get my messages to anything @ freebsd.org and now I'm trying to fix the problem (with the reference located at http://maps.vix.com I'm sending this message until I get thru, At least I'm not asking anything -- if someone sees this message there is no problem anymore :) @-`--,--`--- Jukka Simila To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Sun Aug 8 18:18: 3 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from swan.prod.itd.earthlink.net (swan.prod.itd.earthlink.net [207.217.120.123]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E663C14C8E; Sun, 8 Aug 1999 18:17:49 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from cindy8520@britney.to) Received: from 154.5.137.195 (ip195.calgary5.dialup.canada.psi.net [154.5.137.195]) by swan.prod.itd.earthlink.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id SAA11206; Sun, 8 Aug 1999 18:13:53 -0700 (PDT) From: cindy8520@britney.to Message-Id: <199908090113.SAA11206@swan.prod.itd.earthlink.net> Date: Sun, 8 Aug 1999 15:39:01 Subject: Britney Spears Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hiya!! 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Cindy To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Mon Aug 9 3:41: 6 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from ds9.sci.fi (ds9.sci.fi [195.74.0.54]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 21F5F152E4 for ; Mon, 9 Aug 1999 03:41:01 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from sjuke@saunalahti.fi) Received: from sjukebox.home (MCCCXXXVI.dyn.saunalahti.fi [195.197.4.136]) by ds9.sci.fi (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id NAA14532; Mon, 9 Aug 1999 13:38:54 +0300 (EET DST) Message-ID: X-Mailer: XFMail 1.3 [p0] on FreeBSD X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <19990808202028.E7791@mad> Date: Mon, 09 Aug 1999 13:36:54 +0300 (EEST) Reply-To: juksi@iname.com From: Jukka Simila To: Tim Vanderhoek Subject: Re: testing, testing... Cc: freebsd-newbies@Freebsd.org Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On 09-Aug-99 Tim Vanderhoek wrote: > On Sun, Aug 08, 1999 at 09:48:38PM +0300, Jukka Simila wrote: >> Hi. I've had some hard time trying to get my messages to anything @ >> freebsd.org and now I'm trying to fix the problem (with the reference >> located at http://maps.vix.com I'm sending this message until I get >> thru, At least I'm not asking anything -- if someone sees this message >> there is no problem anymore :) > > This is what the freebsd-test mailing-list is for. But is it really? Isn't -newbies list for discussion about experiences related to freebsd? Well that's what I've done. I told about having had a problem with freebsd mailing-lists, but successfully solving it :) besides, I don't believe I'm the only person behind dial-up line(with a blocked IP), who had (has) a bit misconfigured mail preferences. So if someone with similar problems sees the url above and resolves his/her problems with it then I think it's good I sent the message to -newbies, not to -test. You know, if one can't send messages to freebsd mailing-lists, then (s)he obviously can't ask in -questions what's wrong. @-`--,--`--- Jukka Simila To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Mon Aug 9 22:44:16 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from dt011n65.san.rr.com (dt011n65.san.rr.com [204.210.13.101]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EE2FA14D84 for ; Mon, 9 Aug 1999 22:44:05 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from Doug@gorean.org) Received: from gorean.org (master [10.0.0.2]) by dt011n65.san.rr.com (8.9.3/8.8.8) with ESMTP id WAA52676 for ; Mon, 9 Aug 1999 22:41:43 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from Doug@gorean.org) Message-ID: <37AFBB97.8C6001F2@gorean.org> Date: Mon, 09 Aug 1999 22:41:43 -0700 From: Doug Organization: Triborough Bridge & Tunnel Authority X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.6 [en] (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Subject: [Fwd: Please review: New 'make upgrade' web page] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Howdy, :) Making good on a promise I made quite a while back I've put up a web page with hopefully comprehensive instructions on going from 2.2.8 to 3.x via 'make upgrade.' This page is aimed at a less experienced user and gives a step by step list of procedures to follow to help ensure maximum possibilities of success and convenience. I would appreciate it very much if some of y'all would take a few minutes and read through the page with an eye toward offering constructive criticism. I have now done two 'make upgrade's following these instructions and both have been successful. I cobbled together the information from various posts to the lists over the last year and my experience doing the two upgrades. Some of the recommendations may seem overly paranoid, but please keep the target audience in mind. TIA, Doug http://home.san.rr.com/freebsd/make-upgrade.html To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Tue Aug 10 12:47:58 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from resnet.uoregon.edu (resnet.uoregon.edu [128.223.144.32]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 83A1414EE5 for ; Tue, 10 Aug 1999 12:47:55 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu) Received: from localhost (dwhite@localhost) by resnet.uoregon.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA78465; Tue, 10 Aug 1999 12:47:48 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu) Date: Tue, 10 Aug 1999 12:47:48 -0700 (PDT) From: Doug White To: Doug Cc: freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: [Fwd: Please review: New 'make upgrade' web page] In-Reply-To: <37AFBB97.8C6001F2@gorean.org> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Mon, 9 Aug 1999, Doug wrote: > Howdy, :) > > Making good on a promise I made quite a while back I've put up a web page > with hopefully comprehensive instructions on going from 2.2.8 to 3.x via > 'make upgrade.' This page is aimed at a less experienced user and gives a > step by step list of procedures to follow to help ensure maximum > possibilities of success and convenience. > > I would appreciate it very much if some of y'all would take a few minutes > and read through the page with an eye toward offering constructive > criticism. I have now done two 'make upgrade's following these instructions > and both have been successful. I cobbled together the information from > various posts to the lists over the last year and my experience doing the > two upgrades. Some of the > recommendations may seem overly paranoid, but please keep the target > audience in mind. The last time I did this, it did three 'make worlds': 1 to bring you up to 2.2-STABLE, one to get bootstrap tools to build ELF, and the third to build everything -current in ELF, so when you were done you were fully up to date. Doug White Internet: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu | FreeBSD: The Power to Serve http://gladstone.uoregon.edu/~dwhite | www.freebsd.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Wed Aug 11 19: 7:49 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from dt011n65.san.rr.com (dt011n65.san.rr.com [204.210.13.101]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B7CD31517C for ; Wed, 11 Aug 1999 19:07:44 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from Doug@gorean.org) Received: from gorean.org (master [10.0.0.2]) by dt011n65.san.rr.com (8.9.3/8.8.8) with ESMTP id TAA73468; Wed, 11 Aug 1999 19:06:55 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from Doug@gorean.org) Message-ID: <37B22C40.5528D0C2@gorean.org> Date: Wed, 11 Aug 1999 19:06:56 -0700 From: Doug Organization: Triborough Bridge & Tunnel Authority X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.61 [en] (X11; U; FreeBSD 4.0-CURRENT-0730 i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Doug White Cc: freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: [Fwd: Please review: New 'make upgrade' web page] References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Doug White wrote: > The last time I did this, it did three 'make worlds': 1 to bring you up > to 2.2-STABLE, one to get bootstrap tools to build ELF, and the third to > build everything -current in ELF, so when you were done you were fully up > to date. Yeah, to be honest I found the whole process to be not what I recalled. I'm not sure it did 3 complete builds, I think it was more like 2 and a half, but I'll change the web page to read "At least two complete world builds" just to be on the safe side. Thanks, Doug To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Thu Aug 12 16:28:56 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from darius.concentric.net (darius.concentric.net [207.155.198.79]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2527314E07 for ; Thu, 12 Aug 1999 16:28:51 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mlduke@concentric.net) Received: from mcfeely.concentric.net (mcfeely [207.155.198.83]) by darius.concentric.net (8.9.1a/(98/12/15 5.12)) id TAA16950; Thu, 12 Aug 1999 19:28:54 -0400 (EDT) [1-800-745-2747 The Concentric Network] Received: from ts003d33.mer-id.concentric.net (ts003d33.mer-id.concentric.net [206.173.184.141]) by mcfeely.concentric.net (8.9.1a) id TAA23037; Thu, 12 Aug 1999 19:28:51 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sat, 12 Aug 2000 16:29:09 -0600 (MDT) From: mlduke To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Subject: Corel WP Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Has anyone using "Personal Edition" upgraded to 3.2 and successfully re-installed Corel WP? ML Duke To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Fri Aug 13 4:45:17 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from pslgate0.psl.com.sg (pslgate0.psl.com.sg [202.14.153.4]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 966E814D42; Fri, 13 Aug 1999 04:45:01 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from klng@psl.com.sg) Received: from psl.com.sg (mirage [202.14.154.50]) by pslgate0.psl.com.sg (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id TAA19389; Fri, 13 Aug 1999 19:43:00 +0800 (SGT) Received: from psl.com.sg (robin [202.14.154.175]) by psl.com.sg (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id TAA12283; Fri, 13 Aug 1999 19:40:31 +0800 (SST) Message-ID: <37B404C4.332848AE@psl.com.sg> Date: Fri, 13 Aug 1999 19:43:01 +0800 From: Ng Kok Leong Organization: Panasonic Singapore Laboratories Pte Ltd X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (WinNT; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-user-groups@FreeBSD.ORG Cc: klng@psl.com.sg Subject: path Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi, I am new to FreeBSD and currently I am working with FreeBSD3.2. May I know where can I set the directory path so that I do not have to go to the directory where the file resides in order to access it? I have tried to set the PATH variable in the .profile file but this does not seems to work. Currently, when I want to run a executable program, eg. check, in the directory that I am in, I have to key in ./check Can I solve the problem of keying ./ by setting the PATH=./ ? How can check the path setting? Hope to hear from you soon. Thank you in advance. Regards To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Fri Aug 13 5: 3:13 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from staff.cs.usyd.edu.au (staff.cs.usyd.edu.au [129.78.8.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id BF31814E78 for ; Fri, 13 Aug 1999 05:02:54 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mhenry@cs.usyd.edu.au) Received: from hons.cs.usyd.edu.au. by staff.cs.usyd.edu.au.; Fri, 13 Aug 1999 22:02:42 +1000 Date: Fri, 13 Aug 1999 22:02:42 +1000 (EST) From: Michael Henry To: Ng Kok Leong Cc: freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: path In-Reply-To: <37B404C4.332848AE@psl.com.sg> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I assume you're using a Bourne-like shell such as BASH. In this case, you need to "export" your PATH for it to be visible by your shell. For example, my .profile looks like: PATH=/usr/bin:/bin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/X11R6/bin:/usr/games:/home/mhenry/bin:. export PATH . . . Notice the last entry ".", so the shell will look in the current directory. If you are using csh or tcsh, you'll need to set your path in the .cshrc. Since I don't use either of these shells I can't tell you much more about it, but look at the man page for your shell. I hope this helps, Michael -- ==================================================================== Michael Henry aviast AT hons.cs.usyd.edu.au Men are born ignorant, not stupid. They are made stupid by education. --Bertrand Russell On Fri, 13 Aug 1999, Ng Kok Leong wrote: >Hi, > >I am new to FreeBSD and currently I am working with FreeBSD3.2. >May I know where can I set the directory path so that I do not have >to go to the directory where the file resides in order to access it? >I have tried to set the PATH variable in the .profile file but this does > >not seems to work. > >Currently, when I want to run a executable program, eg. check, in the >directory that I am in, >I have to key in > ./check > >Can I solve the problem of keying ./ by setting the PATH=./ ? >How can check the path setting? > >Hope to hear from you soon. Thank you in advance. > >Regards > > > > > > > >To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org >with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Fri Aug 13 5:16:50 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from swan.prod.itd.earthlink.net (swan.prod.itd.earthlink.net [207.217.120.123]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E852B14D42 for ; Fri, 13 Aug 1999 05:16:42 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from moffet@earthlink.net) Received: from earthlink.net (pool082-cvx.ds45-ca-us.dialup.earthlink.net [209.179.128.82]) by swan.prod.itd.earthlink.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id FAA12048 for ; Fri, 13 Aug 1999 05:16:54 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <37B40C7B.EB6244F1@earthlink.net> Date: Fri, 13 Aug 1999 05:15:55 -0700 From: Scott Moffet X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.61 [en] (Win95; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG" Subject: Netscape Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I am new to FreeBSD and currently I am working with FreeBSD3.2 and KDE. I've been trying and trying to get Netscape Navigator/Communicator 4.51 to work. I've installed, removed, re-installed (from the WalnutCreek BSD CDs) several times, but I can't get it to go. Did I hear on some newsgroup that Netscape won't run on 3.2? TIA To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Fri Aug 13 6:10:12 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from bootes.ebtech.net (bootes.ebtech.net [142.250.0.12]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8536014C25 for ; Fri, 13 Aug 1999 06:10:09 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from paul@geeky1.ebtech.net) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by bootes.ebtech.net (8.8.5/8.6.9) with UUCP id IAA04669; Fri, 13 Aug 1999 08:35:45 -0400 Received: from localhost (paul@localhost) by geeky1.ebtech.net (8.9.3/8.9.0) with SMTP id IAA23536; Fri, 13 Aug 1999 08:56:39 -0400 Date: Fri, 13 Aug 1999 08:56:38 -0400 (EDT) From: Paul Anderson To: Michael Henry Cc: Ng Kok Leong , freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: path In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Fri, 13 Aug 1999, Michael Henry wrote: > > Notice the last entry ".", so the shell will look in the current > directory. > Of course, ignoring the fact that it has the potential to be a pretty big security hole, typing ./ before commands that are in the current directory that aren't in the path is a good habit to get into. TTYL! --- Paul Anderson - Self-employed Megalomaniac paul@geeky1.ebtech.net Member of the Sarnia Linux User's Group http://www.sar-net.com/slug http://zephyr.sellad.on.ca/~paul "Town pride's been going downhill ever since the lake caught fire." To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Fri Aug 13 6:29: 8 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mailnotes2.airfrance.fr (mailnotes2.airfrance.fr [193.57.244.28]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id E270614C25 for ; Fri, 13 Aug 1999 06:29:02 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from alboissy@airfrance.fr) Received: by mailnotes2.airfrance.fr(Lotus SMTP MTA v4.6.4 (830.2 3-23-1999)) id C12567CC.004A2CE4 ; Fri, 13 Aug 1999 15:30:11 +0200 X-Lotus-FromDomain: GRAF From: alboissy@airfrance.fr To: "freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG" Message-ID: Date: Fri, 13 Aug 1999 15:23:50 +0200 Subject: Re : Netscape Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: multipart/mixed; Boundary="0__=VJYWRVR6xxe0ayzuFtu8zaMGryS6rPDTMeqV7EUCcZZU7M2CTF5bn8Z0" Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org --0__=VJYWRVR6xxe0ayzuFtu8zaMGryS6rPDTMeqV7EUCcZZU7M2CTF5bn8Z0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline I think you have to find in /usr/local/bin the "communicator-4.51" exe and create a link called "netscape" to this executable (you place the link in a directory pointed by PATH). Netscape runs very well whith FreeBSD ! ---------------------- Envoyée par Alexandre Boissy/NSS/ORY/GRAF/FR le 13/08/99 15:17 --------------------------- Scott Moffet le 13/08/99 14:15:55 Pour "freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG" : cc : (ccc : Alexandre Boissy/NSS/ORY/GRAF/FR) Objet Netscape : --0__=VJYWRVR6xxe0ayzuFtu8zaMGryS6rPDTMeqV7EUCcZZU7M2CTF5bn8Z0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline I am new to FreeBSD and currently I am working with FreeBSD3.2 and KDE. I've been trying and trying to get Netscape Navigator/Communicator 4.51 to work. I've installed, removed, re-installed (from the WalnutCreek BSD CDs) several times, but I can't get it to go. Did I hear on some newsgroup that Netscape won't run on 3.2? TIA To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message --0__=VJYWRVR6xxe0ayzuFtu8zaMGryS6rPDTMeqV7EUCcZZU7M2CTF5bn8Z0-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Fri Aug 13 7: 5:34 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mission.mvnc.edu (mission.mvnc.edu [149.143.2.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E78B014DE4 for ; Fri, 13 Aug 1999 07:05:32 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kdrobnac@mission.mvnc.edu) Received: from localhost (kdrobnac@localhost) by mission.mvnc.edu (8.9.0/8.9.0) with SMTP id KAA05717; Fri, 13 Aug 1999 10:02:03 -0400 (EDT) Date: Fri, 13 Aug 1999 10:02:03 -0400 (EDT) From: Kenny Drobnack To: Scott Moffet Cc: "freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG" Subject: Re: Netscape In-Reply-To: <37B40C7B.EB6244F1@earthlink.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Whoever told you that about Netscape was wrong. I am running Netscape fine on FreeBSD 3.2. > I am new to FreeBSD and currently I am working with > FreeBSD3.2 and KDE. > > I've been trying and trying to get Netscape > Navigator/Communicator 4.51 to work. I've installed, > removed, re-installed (from the WalnutCreek BSD CDs) several > times, but I can't get it to go. > > Did I hear on some newsgroup that Netscape won't run on 3.2? > > TIA > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message > ----- We are now the Knights who say... "Ekki-Ekki-Ekki-Ekki-PTANG! Zoom-Boing! Z'nourrwringmm!" ---- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Fri Aug 13 7:21:37 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from tasam.com (tasam.com [206.161.83.22]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 41D0D14EDE for ; Fri, 13 Aug 1999 07:21:34 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from korvus@tasam.com) Received: from localhost (korvus@localhost) by tasam.com (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id KAA01788; Fri, 13 Aug 1999 10:21:19 -0400 (EDT) Date: Fri, 13 Aug 1999 10:21:18 -0400 (EDT) From: "Korvus [PINE]" To: Kenny Drobnack Cc: Scott Moffet , "freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG" Subject: Re: Netscape In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I wasn't able to get any 4.x version to run under 3.2, but 3.04g worked fine.... On Fri, 13 Aug 1999, Kenny Drobnack wrote: > Whoever told you that about Netscape was wrong. I am running Netscape > fine on FreeBSD 3.2. > > > I am new to FreeBSD and currently I am working with > > FreeBSD3.2 and KDE. > > > > I've been trying and trying to get Netscape > > Navigator/Communicator 4.51 to work. I've installed, > > removed, re-installed (from the WalnutCreek BSD CDs) several > > times, but I can't get it to go. > > > > Did I hear on some newsgroup that Netscape won't run on 3.2? > > > > TIA > > > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > > with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message > > > > ----- > > We are now the Knights who say... > "Ekki-Ekki-Ekki-Ekki-PTANG! Zoom-Boing! Z'nourrwringmm!" > > ---- > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Fri Aug 13 8:22:47 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from f1node01.rhrz.uni-bonn.de (node01.rhrz.uni-bonn.de [131.220.18.131]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5EB3214C3F for ; Fri, 13 Aug 1999 08:22:39 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from uzs106@ibm.rhrz.uni-bonn.de) Received: from max.alleswirdgelber (ascend-tk-p65.rhrz.uni-bonn.de [131.220.244.65]) by f1node01.rhrz.uni-bonn.de (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA225660 for ; Fri, 13 Aug 1999 17:19:57 +0200 Received: (from uzs106@localhost) by max.alleswirdgelber (8.9.2/8.9.2) id QAA00334 for freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org; Fri, 13 Aug 1999 16:31:34 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from uzs106) Date: Fri, 13 Aug 1999 16:31:34 +0200 (CEST) From: Heiko Recktenwald Message-Id: <199908131431.QAA00334@max.alleswirdgelber> To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Subject: DAP (digital audio processor) Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Looks great, but I never heard anything. It says and says and says: Couldnt open audio file handle when I try to open a file. Cant record too. (Those two problems can have two different reasons...) Anyway, it is a pity !!!!! Btw, writing emails with mail is fun, I can do so since I was able to read the special parts of the FAQ, the mc file sample was easy to adjust, sendmail.cfeasy, after installation of parts or the sources. (The mentioned tarball from the FAQ didnt exist anymore, maybe this should be fixed in later distributions.) I have the Luigi driver, my soundcard is an Yamaha, I read man pcm and did the mentioned links. Dont know what I did miss. Luigis soundcard driver works, but I have to do a mixer pcm 100 and, since I played around with /boot/kernel.conf this morning, a mixer mix 100 too. First I entered the pnp line from CARDS into the config> window, the last irq1 0from CARDS was left out, line too long, but this was better than putting this irg1 0 info into the file. Man pcm says: irg1 3, and there the mimer mix thing started..... Adventures in FBSD land....... Greetings from the Rhine, Heiko To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Fri Aug 13 12: 9:14 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from f1node01.rhrz.uni-bonn.de (node01.rhrz.uni-bonn.de [131.220.18.131]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 50A8814C24 for ; Fri, 13 Aug 1999 12:09:04 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from uzs106@ibm.rhrz.uni-bonn.de) Received: from max.alleswirdgelber (ascend-tk-p248.rhrz.uni-bonn.de [131.220.244.248]) by f1node01.rhrz.uni-bonn.de (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id VAA40606 for ; Fri, 13 Aug 1999 21:07:44 +0200 Received: (from uzs106@localhost) by max.alleswirdgelber (8.9.2/8.9.2) id UAA00324 for freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org; Fri, 13 Aug 1999 20:30:34 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from uzs106) Date: Fri, 13 Aug 1999 20:30:34 +0200 (CEST) From: Heiko Recktenwald Message-Id: <199908131830.UAA00324@max.alleswirdgelber> To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Subject: Device pca Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org PCM Audio trough your PC speaker....has anybody ever configured it ? Thought it would be nice to run it with an *au file as explained in ppp.linkup.sample. Etc pp, I dont have a soundcard on all those old PCs..... Heiko To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Fri Aug 13 15:40:50 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from f1node01.rhrz.uni-bonn.de (node01.rhrz.uni-bonn.de [131.220.18.131]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9DF1F14C13 for ; Fri, 13 Aug 1999 15:40:43 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from uzs106@ibm.rhrz.uni-bonn.de) Received: from max.alleswirdgelber (ascend-tk-p64.rhrz.uni-bonn.de [131.220.244.64]) by f1node01.rhrz.uni-bonn.de (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id AAA183718; Sat, 14 Aug 1999 00:36:43 +0200 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by max.alleswirdgelber (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id VAA00514; Fri, 13 Aug 1999 21:15:24 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from uzs106@ibm.rhrz.uni-bonn.de) Date: Fri, 13 Aug 1999 21:15:24 +0200 (CEST) From: Heiko Recktenwald X-Sender: uzs106@localhost.rhrz.uni-bonn.de To: "Korvus [PINE]" Cc: Kenny Drobnack , Scott Moffet , "freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG" Subject: Re: Netscape In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I have 3.1 and 32 MB, an old 486, and the netscape, some 4.x, from the CD runs, some parts are very slowish, configuration, some are more ugly than the Windoze version (some fonts), but the real things fly. Heiko PS.: I dont use KDE etc, just plain X !! On Fri, 13 Aug 1999, Korvus [PINE] wrote: > I wasn't able to get any 4.x version to run under 3.2, but 3.04g worked > fine.... > > Whoever told you that about Netscape was wrong. I am running Netscape > > fine on FreeBSD 3.2. > > > > > I am new to FreeBSD and currently I am working with > > > FreeBSD3.2 and KDE. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Fri Aug 13 22:24:30 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from phoenix.welearn.com.au (phoenix.welearn.com.au [139.130.44.81]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EFF5A15054 for ; Fri, 13 Aug 1999 22:24:19 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from sue@phoenix.welearn.com.au) Received: (from sue@localhost) by phoenix.welearn.com.au (8.9.3/8.9.3) id PAA27777 for freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org; Sat, 14 Aug 1999 15:24:38 +1000 (EST) (envelope-from sue) Date: Sat, 14 Aug 1999 15:24:38 +1000 (EST) From: Sue Blake Message-Id: <199908140524.PAA27777@phoenix.welearn.com.au> To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Subject: FreeBSD Newbies First Aid Kit Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org FreeBSD-Newbies First Aid Kit (This is a regular posting to the FreeBSD-Newbies mailing list. It is also available at http://www.welearn.com.au/freebsd/newbies/) FreeBSD-Questions@FreeBSD.ORG is the place to send all questions about installing, configuring, running and using FreeBSD. All help requests are handled by FreeBSD-Questions, including newbies questions. FreeBSD-Newbies is different. We don't ask for help or answer how-to questions. It is a discussion forum for newbies. FreeBSD-Newbies provides a place for new FreeBSD users to meet and covers any of the activities of newbies that are not already dealt with elsewhere. Examples include helping each other to learn more on our own, finding and using resources, problem solving techniques, how to seek help elsewhere, how to use mailing lists and which lists to use, general chat, making mistakes, boasting, sharing ideas, stories, moral (but not technical) support, and taking an active part in the FreeBSD community. We take our problems and support questions to freebsd-questions, and use freebsd-newbies to meet others who are doing the same things that we do as newbies. One of the things we do together is learn more effective ways to find help when we need it. Here are some suggestions: When something doesn't work the way you expect 1. First look at the errata for your release of FreeBSD at http://www.FreeBSD.ORG/releases/ for the latest information and security advisories. 2. Search the Handbook, FAQ, and mail archives at http://www.FreeBSD.ORG/search.html 3. If you still have a question or problem, collect the output of `uname -a' and of any relevant program(s) and email your question to FreeBSD-questions@FreeBSD.ORG. Mailing lists When you have a problem that you can't solve by yourself, there's only one support mailing list and that's FreeBSD-questions@FreeBSD.ORG. FreeBSD-questions helps with installation and basic setup as well as more general and advanced questions. You don't have to actually join freebsd-questions before asking a question there. Replies to your question will normally be sent to you personally as well as to the list. Just make sure you have read and followed the guidelines for posting, because you might find them different to what you're used to. If you do subscribe to freebsd-questions you'll have the advantage of seeing all of the recent questions and their answers. Before you post to FreeBSD-questions, please read the guidelines at http://www.lemis.com/questions.html Many of the people who answer FreeBSD-questions are very knowledgeable, but they get frustrated when they get questions which are difficult to understand. http://www.lemis.com/email.html is worth reading too. If you're not sure that you can follow these guidelines, come back and ask the other newbies for help on how to post an effective question to the support mailing list. Maybe your question has been asked before. If you search the mailing list archives at http://www.freebsd.org/search.html first you might get the answer right away. It's always worth trying. Other mailing lists (http://www.freebsd.org/handbook/eresources.html#ERESOURCES-CHARTERS) cover specialised areas and many are more developer-oriented. You'll need to read their charters carefully before participating, but it's probably a good idea to ask on either -newbies or -questions for advice about where to post a more specialised question. FreeBSD-announce is a very low volume read-only list for occasional announcements, such as notice of new releases, and the Really Quick Newsletter. It's worth subscribing to FreeBSD-announce too. Manuals You'll always be expected to show that you have made some effort to use the available documentation before asking for help. That's not always as easy as it sounds! If you know what documentation you need but can't locate it, send a brief query to FreeBSD-questions. If you don't know what you need, always have trouble finding it, or can't make any sense of it when you do, ask some patient newbies to steer you in the right direction. Anyone interested in writing or reviewing documentation for FreeBSD is encouraged to join the FreeBSD Documentation Project. Details are at http://www.freebsd.org/docproj/docproj.html Other resources A resource list is available at http://www.freebsd.org/projects/newbies.html to help new and inexperienced FreeBSD users to find relevant information quickly. It includes books, on line documents and tutorials, and links to web pages that other newbies have found useful for learning. If you have a suggestion for good material to be included, please write to freebsd-newbies and tell us about it. But I have seen people asking questions here! It is quite common for people to send the wrong kind of post to a mailing list. Because we're newbies it'll certainly happen here from time to time. The best thing to do if you see a message that doesn't belong on a list is to ignore it. There's always someone around whose job it is to sort these problems out privately. The posts to the lists go straight through, whatever their content. It is going to be confusing for a little while because we're all newbies so we all make mistakes. That's OK. One thing we're going to see a fair bit is people posting questions, believing they're doing the right thing by posting here as newbies, not realising how it works. If someone answers those questions the situation will snowball. There's nothing wrong with helping someone to redirect their question to freebsd-questions, but please do so gently. There's nothing wrong with the occasional mistake either. So all questions, requests for help, etc still go to freebsd-questions as usual. Ours is more of a discussion group, a place where newbies can relax with other newbies and focus more on our successes than on our temporary imperfection. We can talk about things here that are not allowed on freebsd-questions. We're also a bit freer to make the mistakes that we need to make in order to learn. _________________________________________________________________ To Subscribe to FreeBSD-Newbies: Send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "subscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message. Mail sent to freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org appears on the mailing list. _________________________________________________________________ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Sat Aug 14 8: 0:42 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from studentmail.liu.se (student.liu.se [130.236.230.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 10F8D14E27 for ; Sat, 14 Aug 1999 08:00:39 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from johpe159@student.liu.se) Received: from student.liu.se (b152.ryd.student.liu.se [130.236.233.152]) by studentmail.liu.se (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2EE253961E for ; Sat, 14 Aug 1999 17:00:57 +0200 (MET DST) Message-ID: <37B5847A.CAC1DD74@student.liu.se> Date: Sat, 14 Aug 1999 17:00:10 +0200 From: Johan Pettersson X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.6 [en] (X11; I; Linux 2.2.9 i686) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "FreeBSD-Newbies@FreeBSD.ORG" Subject: vi/vim Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hello! I have a problem with vi/vim. In linux is it possible to open a text, yank lines, then quit vim and open a new text and copy the lines into the new text. But when i tried to do that in FreeBSD 3.2 it says "nothing in register". //thx Johan To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Sat Aug 14 12: 7:23 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from osage.gate.net (osage.gate.net [198.206.134.25]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C1FA014BEC for ; Sat, 14 Aug 1999 12:07:17 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from wjm@gate.net) Received: from inca.gate.net (wjm@inca.gate.net [199.227.0.11]) by osage.gate.net (8.8.6/8.6.12) with ESMTP id PAA106700 for ; Sat, 14 Aug 1999 15:05:23 -0400 Received: from localhost (wjm@localhost) by inca.gate.net (8.8.6/8.6.9) with ESMTP id PAA110888 for ; Sat, 14 Aug 1999 15:06:05 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: inca.gate.net: wjm owned process doing -bs Date: Sat, 14 Aug 1999 15:06:05 -0400 (EDT) From: William Melanson To: freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Netscape In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Fri, 13 Aug 1999, Heiko Recktenwald wrote: Is this once again the compat22 distribution problem? Take a peek at this link http://www.freebsd.org/FAQ/FAQ116.html#116. --------------------------------oOo------------------------------------ William J. Melanson CyberGate, Inc. | e.spire Communications Network Controller Deerfield Beach, FL 33441 Network Operations Center Phone: (954) 429-8080 --------------------------------oOo------------------------------------ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Sat Aug 14 17:12:55 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from Mail.austin.rr.com (sm2.texas.rr.com [24.93.35.55]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7B8A1158A5 for ; Sat, 14 Aug 1999 17:11:45 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from rluedtke@freewwweb.com) Received: from [24.93.61.97] ([24.93.61.97]) by Mail.austin.rr.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1875.185.18); Sat, 14 Aug 1999 19:07:32 -0500 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express Macintosh Edition - 4.5 (0410) Date: Sat, 14 Aug 1999 19:12:06 -0500 Subject: panic: cannot mount root From: "Robert M. Luedtke" To: FreeBSD-newbies@FreeBSD.Org Mime-version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <064373207000f89SM2@Mail.austin.rr.com> Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hello all, I have installed 2.2.8 on two different machines and have ended up with the same problem. I used V Communications Partition Commander to partition my hard disk. I have Win98 installed on the first partition. I installed 2.2.8 on the second partition on one machine and on the third partition on another machine. I tried using System Commander as the boot manager. I also tried using dos fdisk to switch between the active partitions to choose which one to boot (thus not using any boot management software.) I also tried using booteasy. I installed from CDROM and from an MS-DOS directory. The problem that keeps happening is after I install, I can boot FreeBSD okay maybe one, two, or three times, but then I get the following error at the end of a boot sequence: wd0: cannot find label (I/O error) wd0s3: cannot find label (I/O error) panic: cannot mount root syncing disks... done Automatic reboot in 15 seconds. I have gotten Linux and BeOS to run okay on the second or third partition and have been able to boot them numerous times. Any assistance would be greatly appreciated as I really like FreeBSD from a philosophical view. Thanks, Robert To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Sat Aug 14 18:30:22 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from exegrnnts001.seattleu.edu (exegrnnts001.seattleu.edu [206.81.198.91]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E43251526E; Sat, 14 Aug 1999 18:30:18 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from hodeleri@seattleu.edu) Received: from seattleu.edu (ppp27.pm3b.wport.com [206.129.99.174]) by exegrnnts001.seattleu.edu with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2448.0) id QS0G8N34; Sat, 14 Aug 1999 18:30:08 -0700 Message-ID: <37B6180E.E9F5335F@seattleu.edu> Date: Sat, 14 Aug 1999 18:29:50 -0700 From: Eric Hodel Organization: Dis X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.51 [en] (X11; I; FreeBSD 3.2-RELEASE i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Ng Kok Leong Cc: freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-user-groups@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: path References: <37B404C4.332848AE@psl.com.sg> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Ng Kok Leong wrote: > > Hi, > > I am new to FreeBSD and currently I am working with FreeBSD3.2. > May I know where can I set the directory path so that I do not have > to go to the directory where the file resides in order to access it? > I have tried to set the PATH variable in the .profile file but this does If you are using sh, you can set your path in the .profile, but this will only run on a login shell. If you have root using the sh shell, it won't pick up the sbin directories if you su. Use the .shrc and add ENV=$HOME/.shrc;export ENV in order to have sh set a new path when you su, and don't forget to make .shrc executable. You can add path changes vi command line editing, aliases, etc to the .shrc file, and they will be run whenever the shell is started (I think this is the prefered way.) Also don't add . to your path, it opens a security hole (and it is not too difficult to get used to using ./) -- Eric Hodel hodeleri@seattleu.edu "They cook your gonies" -Terry Lambert's uncle on why he doesn't have a microwave To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Sat Aug 14 18:41:14 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mail.primus.com.au (mail.primus.com.au [203.134.0.68]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 80CC914DA0 for ; Sat, 14 Aug 1999 18:41:10 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kremlin@primus.com.au) Received: from primus.com.au ([203.134.49.97]) by mail.primus.com.au with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.267.26); Sun, 15 Aug 1999 11:42:38 +1000 Message-ID: <3ACAB711.571547DE@primus.com.au> Date: Wed, 04 Apr 2001 15:54:25 +1000 From: Kremlin Vostok X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.61 [en] (WinNT; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Subject: Netscape (and others) References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi peoples, I have a question which has been plaguing me for a while, I've searched for the answer everywhere I know to look, but no results. I don't have a freebsd system installed at home - yet, because I need windows for university. As soon as this semester is over, I am going to install it. So as not to lose too much learning time, I still participate in these newsgroups and read on-line documentation and unix related textbooks. My question is: If one was to download and install netscape communicator/navigator on their system, and ran it from a terminal that was not a X-Windows one, what would happen? I know that the standard terminals support a mouse, so would it just open up in fll screen mode in a terminal, or would it try and run x, and failing that (if it was not installed) give an error message? Oh, and say it did open without needing X-Windows, how would i open up multiple windows of netscape. I'm assuming one in each tty, but then how would I know what page I was up to on which? Many thanks, this is BUGGING me!! kremlin vostok To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message