From owner-freebsd-small Wed Sep 29 23:13:21 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-small@freebsd.org Received: from ns.quantum.ru (mars.quantum.ru [195.133.228.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BA75514ED1 for ; Wed, 29 Sep 1999 23:13:07 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dsk@quantum.ru) Received: from quantum.ru (denis.quantum.ru [195.133.228.20]) by ns.quantum.ru (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA63612 for ; Thu, 30 Sep 1999 10:13:06 +0400 (MSD) Message-ID: <37F2FF73.854F08FA@quantum.ru> Date: Thu, 30 Sep 1999 10:13:08 +0400 From: "Dennis S. Kulikov" Reply-To: dsk@quantum.ru Organization: Quantum Communications X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.61 [en] (X11; I; FreeBSD 3.1-RELEASE i386) X-Accept-Language: ru, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-small@freebsd.org Subject: snmpd Content-Type: text/plain; charset=koi8-r Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-small@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi All! Does anybody use PICOBSD with snmpd? It seems to me it's very useful thing. -- ----- Dennis S. Kulikov Quantum Communications, programmer Phone: +7 (812) 3276131 Email: dsk@quantum.ru ICQ : 37092977 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-small" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-small Wed Sep 29 23:28:26 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-small@freebsd.org Received: from racine.cybercable.fr (racine.cybercable.fr [212.198.0.201]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id D62AB14CE7 for ; Wed, 29 Sep 1999 23:28:23 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from starone@cybercable.fr) Received: (qmail 7567202 invoked from network); 30 Sep 1999 06:28:23 -0000 Received: from d054.paris-216.cybercable.fr (HELO michelle.michelle-is.com) ([212.198.216.54]) (envelope-sender ) by racine.cybercable.fr (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for ; 30 Sep 1999 06:28:23 -0000 Message-Id: <3.0.6.16.19990930082818.0d475902@mail.cybercable.fr> Organization: Michelle's Internet Service X-Link: http://www.michelle-is.com/index.htm X-Moto: Micr0$oft = What do you want to crash today? X-Sender: starone@mail.cybercable.fr X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.6 (16) Date: Thu, 30 Sep 1999 08:28:18 +0100 To: PicoBSD From: Michelle Konzack Subject: 3c509 support ??? Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-freebsd-small@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hello and good morning, I have a small private LAN and I like to install a Dial-In Server for my friends. Now I am using the 3Com NIC's 3c509 and they does not working with PicoBSD. How can I get the 3c509 to work for me ??? Please can anyone help me ??? Michelle Oh yes, yesterday I had tried to download the http://info.net-gw.com/picoBSD/images/pbsd225I.zip , but I get every time a broken package. :-(( Can anyone resolve this problem ??? To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-small" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-small Wed Sep 29 23:50: 3 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-small@freebsd.org Received: from mail-blue.research.att.com (mail-blue.research.att.com [135.207.30.102]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ADBCE14D64 for ; Wed, 29 Sep 1999 23:49:58 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ji@research.att.com) Received: from amontillado.research.att.com (amontillado.research.att.com [135.207.24.32]) by mail-blue.research.att.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 52C5C4CE4C for ; Thu, 30 Sep 1999 02:49:58 -0400 (EDT) Received: from bual.research.att.com (bual.research.att.com [135.207.24.19]) by amontillado.research.att.com (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id CAA19497 for ; Thu, 30 Sep 1999 02:49:58 -0400 (EDT) From: John Ioannidis Received: (from ji@localhost) by bual.research.att.com (8.7.5/8.7) id CAA16772 for freebsd-small@freebsd.org; Thu, 30 Sep 1999 02:49:55 -0400 (EDT) Date: Thu, 30 Sep 1999 02:49:55 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <199909300649.CAA16772@bual.research.att.com> To: freebsd-small@freebsd.org Subject: Small web browser? Sender: owner-freebsd-small@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Does anyone know of a small web browswer, preferably open-source? AT over 13MB, Netscape is way too bloated! /ji To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-small" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-small Wed Sep 29 23:52:34 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-small@freebsd.org Received: from labinfo.iet.unipi.it (labinfo.iet.unipi.it [131.114.9.5]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 575D914D64 for ; Wed, 29 Sep 1999 23:52:31 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from luigi@labinfo.iet.unipi.it) Received: from localhost (luigi@localhost) by labinfo.iet.unipi.it (8.6.5/8.6.5) id AAA05924; Thu, 30 Sep 1999 00:42:58 +0100 From: Luigi Rizzo Message-Id: <199909292342.AAA05924@labinfo.iet.unipi.it> Subject: Re: Small web browser? To: ji@research.att.com (John Ioannidis) Date: Thu, 30 Sep 1999 00:42:58 +0100 (MET) Cc: freebsd-small@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <199909300649.CAA16772@bual.research.att.com> from "John Ioannidis" at Sep 30, 99 02:49:36 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Content-Type: text Content-Length: 783 Sender: owner-freebsd-small@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > Does anyone know of a small web browswer, preferably open-source? > AT over 13MB, Netscape is way too bloated! you don't have to use the latest and biggest (or it was greatest ?)... Every version you go back cuts the size in half. I am using 3.04 here, at about 6.5MB. I am sure version 2 is 3-4MB cheers luigi -----------------------------------+------------------------------------- Luigi RIZZO, luigi@iet.unipi.it . Dip. di Ing. dell'Informazione http://www.iet.unipi.it/~luigi/ . Universita` di Pisa TEL/FAX: +39-050-568.533/522 . via Diotisalvi 2, 56126 PISA (Italy) http://www.iet.unipi.it/~luigi/ngc99/ ==== First International Workshop on Networked Group Communication ==== -----------------------------------+------------------------------------- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-small" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-small Thu Sep 30 1:17:39 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-small@freebsd.org Received: from iclub.nsu.ru (iclub.nsu.ru [193.124.222.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 039EE155BF for ; Thu, 30 Sep 1999 01:16:56 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from fjoe@iclub.nsu.ru) Received: from localhost (fjoe@localhost) by iclub.nsu.ru (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA82467; Thu, 30 Sep 1999 14:31:38 +0700 (NSS) (envelope-from fjoe@iclub.nsu.ru) Date: Thu, 30 Sep 1999 14:31:38 +0700 (NSS) From: Max Khon To: John Ioannidis Cc: freebsd-small@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Small web browser? In-Reply-To: <199909300649.CAA16772@bual.research.att.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-small@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG hi, there! On Thu, 30 Sep 1999, John Ioannidis wrote: > Does anyone know of a small web browswer, preferably open-source? > AT over 13MB, Netscape is way too bloated! lynx /fjoe To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-small" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-small Thu Sep 30 1:55:53 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-small@freebsd.org Received: from mail-green.research.att.com (H-135-207-30-103.research.att.com [135.207.30.103]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 75B9714D25 for ; Thu, 30 Sep 1999 01:55:51 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ji@research.att.com) Received: from amontillado.research.att.com (amontillado.research.att.com [135.207.24.32]) by mail-green.research.att.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2D0C81E078 for ; Thu, 30 Sep 1999 04:55:51 -0400 (EDT) Received: from bual.research.att.com (bual.research.att.com [135.207.24.19]) by amontillado.research.att.com (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id EAA21347 for ; Thu, 30 Sep 1999 04:55:51 -0400 (EDT) From: John Ioannidis Received: (from ji@localhost) by bual.research.att.com (8.7.5/8.7) id EAA16894 for freebsd-small@FreeBSD.ORG; Thu, 30 Sep 1999 04:55:48 -0400 (EDT) Date: Thu, 30 Sep 1999 04:55:48 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <199909300855.EAA16894@bual.research.att.com> To: freebsd-small@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Small web browser? Sender: owner-freebsd-small@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > > Does anyone know of a small web browswer, preferably open-source? > > AT over 13MB, Netscape is way too bloated! > lynx I didn't make myself clear. I need a *graphical* browser. Preferably one that can also do javascript. Thanks again, /ji To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-small" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-small Thu Sep 30 1:59:21 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-small@freebsd.org Received: from labinfo.iet.unipi.it (labinfo.iet.unipi.it [131.114.9.5]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id B662E150B1 for ; Thu, 30 Sep 1999 01:59:15 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from luigi@labinfo.iet.unipi.it) Received: from localhost (luigi@localhost) by labinfo.iet.unipi.it (8.6.5/8.6.5) id CAA06448; Thu, 30 Sep 1999 02:49:31 +0100 From: Luigi Rizzo Message-Id: <199909300149.CAA06448@labinfo.iet.unipi.it> Subject: Re: Small web browser? To: ji@research.att.com (John Ioannidis) Date: Thu, 30 Sep 1999 02:49:31 +0100 (MET) Cc: freebsd-small@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <199909300855.EAA16894@bual.research.att.com> from "John Ioannidis" at Sep 30, 99 04:55:29 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Content-Type: text Content-Length: 830 Sender: owner-freebsd-small@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > > > Does anyone know of a small web browswer, preferably open-source? > > > AT over 13MB, Netscape is way too bloated! > > > lynx > > I didn't make myself clear. I need a *graphical* browser. Preferably > one that can also do javascript. X is bloated as well, i am assuming you want some alternative such as talking to a VNC server over SVGALIB... luigi -----------------------------------+------------------------------------- Luigi RIZZO, luigi@iet.unipi.it . Dip. di Ing. dell'Informazione http://www.iet.unipi.it/~luigi/ . Universita` di Pisa TEL/FAX: +39-050-568.533/522 . via Diotisalvi 2, 56126 PISA (Italy) http://www.iet.unipi.it/~luigi/ngc99/ ==== First International Workshop on Networked Group Communication ==== -----------------------------------+------------------------------------- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-small" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-small Thu Sep 30 2: 4: 9 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-small@freebsd.org Received: from mail-blue.research.att.com (mail-blue.research.att.com [135.207.30.102]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 37FF5150B1 for ; Thu, 30 Sep 1999 02:04:06 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ji@research.att.com) Received: from amontillado.research.att.com (amontillado.research.att.com [135.207.24.32]) by mail-blue.research.att.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7F6034CE08; Thu, 30 Sep 1999 05:04:06 -0400 (EDT) Received: from bual.research.att.com (bual.research.att.com [135.207.24.19]) by amontillado.research.att.com (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id FAA21484; Thu, 30 Sep 1999 05:04:08 -0400 (EDT) From: John Ioannidis Received: (from ji@localhost) by bual.research.att.com (8.7.5/8.7) id FAA16919; Thu, 30 Sep 1999 05:04:05 -0400 (EDT) Date: Thu, 30 Sep 1999 05:04:05 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <199909300904.FAA16919@bual.research.att.com> To: ji@research.att.com, luigi@labinfo.iet.unipi.it Subject: Re: Small web browser? Cc: freebsd-small@FreeBSD.ORG Sender: owner-freebsd-small@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > X is bloated as well, i am assuming you want some alternative such as > talking to a VNC server over SVGALIB... Not an option, even assuming I cared to run VNC (which I don't -- the thing is architecturally flawed). Good point about SVGALIB though... so what about a browser that runs directly with SVGALIB? :) /ji To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-small" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-small Fri Oct 1 4:47:32 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-small@freebsd.org Received: from it.sivma.ru (it.sivma.ru [195.151.58.131]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 83E2D14C86 for ; Fri, 1 Oct 1999 04:47:22 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from VLobachev@sivma.ru) Received: from valert ([10.10.10.55]) by it.sivma.ru (8.9.2/8.9.2) with SMTP id PAA39539 for ; Fri, 1 Oct 1999 15:57:23 +0400 (MSD) (envelope-from VLobachev@sivma.ru) Message-ID: <00eb01bf0c02$a6965080$370a0a0a@valert.sivma.ru> From: "Valery Lobachev" To: Subject: Access to vfat partirion Date: Fri, 1 Oct 1999 15:46:51 +0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="koi8-r" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.5 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Sender: owner-freebsd-small@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hello I want to create a system for automatic mail receving. On my boxes installed Win95. I want to boot picoBSD from floppy disk. Could I run programs and use data from Win95 partition? Thak you, Valery Lobachev To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-small" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-small Fri Oct 1 8:12:18 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-small@freebsd.org Received: from stcgate.statcan.ca (stcgate.statcan.ca [142.206.192.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 811711581C for ; Fri, 1 Oct 1999 08:11:43 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mamaraf@statcan.ca) Received: from stcinet (stcinet.statcan.ca [142.206.128.146]) by stcgate.statcan.ca (8.9.1/8.6.9) with SMTP id LAA21265 For ; Fri, 1 Oct 1999 11:20:23 -0400 (EDT) Received: from statcan.ca by statcan.ca (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id LAA15969; Fri, 1 Oct 1999 11:12:19 -0400; sender mamaraf@statcan.ca Received: from stcinet (stcinet.statcan.ca [142.206.128.146]) by stcscan.statcan.ca (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with SMTP id KAA10916 for ; Fri, 1 Oct 1999 10:21:29 -0400 Received: from statcan.ca by statcan.ca (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id LAA15884; Fri, 1 Oct 1999 11:11:19 -0400; sender mamaraf@statcan.ca Message-ID: <00ea01bf0c1e$ca2f4170$0dd6ce8e@caseman2.statcan.ca> From: "Rafael Mamaril" To: Subject: subscribe Date: Fri, 1 Oct 1999 11:08:09 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_00E7_01BF0BFD.3E8FB4E0" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.5 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Sender: owner-freebsd-small@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_00E7_01BF0BFD.3E8FB4E0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable ------=_NextPart_000_00E7_01BF0BFD.3E8FB4E0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
 
------=_NextPart_000_00E7_01BF0BFD.3E8FB4E0-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-small" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-small Fri Oct 1 9:52:37 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-small@freebsd.org Received: from hindenburg.eboai.org (hindenburg.eboai.org [205.181.254.190]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0B02B156F3 for ; Fri, 1 Oct 1999 09:52:34 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from chip@eboai.org) Received: by hindenburg.eboai.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id B7EDA5ADA; Fri, 1 Oct 1999 12:52:33 -0400 (EDT) Date: Fri, 1 Oct 1999 12:52:33 -0400 From: Chip Marshall To: Valery Lobachev Cc: freebsd-small@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Access to vfat partirion Message-ID: <19991001125233.A9878@hindenburg.eboai.org> Reply-To: chip@eboai.org References: <00eb01bf0c02$a6965080$370a0a0a@valert.sivma.ru> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0pre2i In-Reply-To: <00eb01bf0c02$a6965080$370a0a0a@valert.sivma.ru> X-Real-OS: FreeBSD hindenburg.eboai.org 3.2-RELEASE FreeBSD 3.2-RELEASE Sender: owner-freebsd-small@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Fri, Oct 01, 1999 at 03:46:51PM +0400, Valery Lobachev wrote: > I want to create a system for automatic mail receving. On my boxes installed > Win95. I want to boot picoBSD from floppy disk. Could I run programs and use > data from Win95 partition? I'm fairly sure that as long as the kernel in question has the MSDOS option enabled, and you have mount_msdos, you should be able to mount any FAT16 or FAT32 partition on your system. I'm not sure about logical drives inside extended DOS patitions, perhaps someone else could clarify that, or check the freebsd-questions archive, I know it has been discussed before. -- Chip Marshall http://www.chocobo.cx/chip/ Geek code available via finger PGP key available on my web page On IRC via EFnet as Magus To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-small" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-small Fri Oct 1 13:15:32 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-small@freebsd.org Received: from post.mail.nl.demon.net (post-10.mail.nl.demon.net [194.159.73.20]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 358B01529D for ; Fri, 1 Oct 1999 13:15:28 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from marc@oldserver.demon.nl) Received: from [212.238.105.241] (helo=mistress) by post.mail.nl.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 2.02 #1) id 11X95T-0001Yp-00; Fri, 1 Oct 1999 20:15:27 +0000 Date: Fri, 1 Oct 1999 22:11:06 +0200 (CEST) From: Marc Schneiders To: Michelle Konzack Cc: PicoBSD Subject: Re: 3c509 support ??? In-Reply-To: <3.0.6.16.19990930082818.0d475902@mail.cybercable.fr> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-small@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Thu, 30 Sep 1999, Michelle Konzack wrote: > Hello and good morning, > > I have a small private LAN and I like to > install a Dial-In Server for my friends. > > Now I am using the 3Com NIC's 3c509 and > they does not working with PicoBSD. > > How can I get the 3c509 to work for me ??? > > Please can anyone help me ??? > > Michelle > > Oh yes, yesterday I had tried to download the > http://info.net-gw.com/picoBSD/images/pbsd225I.zip , > but I get every time a broken package. :-(( > > Can anyone resolve this problem ??? > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-small" in the body of the message > Your card is in the dialup version of PicoBSD and works fine here. Have you configured it in the kernel configuration screen which pops up when you boot PicoBSD? Maybe you could tell what isn't working and where? -- Marc Schneiders marc@venster.nl marc@oldserver.demon.nl To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-small" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-small Fri Oct 1 13:25:16 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-small@freebsd.org Received: from pogo.caustic.org (pogo.caustic.org [216.69.69.123]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7E11015349 for ; Fri, 1 Oct 1999 13:25:12 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jan@caustic.org) Received: from localhost (jan@localhost) by pogo.caustic.org (8.9.3/ignatz) with ESMTP id NAA69930 for ; Fri, 1 Oct 1999 13:26:05 -0700 (PDT) Date: Fri, 1 Oct 1999 13:26:05 -0700 (PDT) From: "f.johan.beisser" To: freebsd-small@freebsd.org Subject: a little problem compiling.. Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-small@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG this is relativly new, at least, it just came up in the last 2 days, after an upgrade of my source code (and base build machine) to 3.3-stable from 3.3-RC. this starts in passwd, and goes over to ppp. it seems (so far) to only seems to exist in the net (/usr/src/release/picobsd/net) build of picobsd. any ideas? -- jan starting with passwd.lo: passwd.lo: In function `local_passwd': passwd.lo(.text+0x379): undefined reference to `local_password' passwd.lo(.text+0x38d): undefined reference to `local_password' passwd.lo: In function `main': passwd.lo(.text+0x562): undefined reference to `yp_domain' passwd.lo(.text+0x568): undefined reference to `yp_server' passwd.lo(.text+0x575): undefined reference to `yp_server' passwd.lo(.text+0x58a): undefined reference to `yp_server' passwd.lo(.text+0x596): undefined reference to `force_old' passwd.lo(.text+0x5f3): undefined reference to `use_yp' passwd.lo(.text+0x60a): undefined reference to `yp_passwd' passwd.lo(.text+0x650): undefined reference to `yp_in_pw_file' passwd.lo(.text+0x662): undefined reference to `yp_passwd' ppp.lo: In function `chap_BuildAnswer': ppp.lo(.text+0x5a30): undefined reference to `mschap_LANMan' ppp.lo(.text+0x5aab): undefined reference to `mschap_NT' *** Error code 1 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-small" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-small Fri Oct 1 13:54:40 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-small@freebsd.org Received: from mark.kingsu.ab.ca (mark.kingsu.ab.ca [199.185.113.37]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C47D214D26 for ; Fri, 1 Oct 1999 13:54:26 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from bwood@KingsU.ab.ca) Received: from KingsU.ab.ca (kingsnet.kingsu.ab.ca [199.185.113.33]) by mark.kingsu.ab.ca (8.9.3/8.9.2) with ESMTP id OAA39626 for ; Fri, 1 Oct 1999 14:54:29 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from bwood@KingsU.ab.ca) Message-Id: <199910012054.OAA39626@mark.kingsu.ab.ca> Received: from KINGSNET/SpoolDir by KingsU.ab.ca (Mercury 1.44); 1 Oct 99 14:54:33 -0700 Received: from SpoolDir by KINGSNET (Mercury 1.44); 1 Oct 99 14:54:06 -0700 From: "Broderick Wood" Organization: The King's University College To: freebsd-small@FreeBSD.ORG Date: Fri, 1 Oct 1999 14:54:01 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: Off-Topic X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v3.12a) Sender: owner-freebsd-small@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG This is off-topic so responses should be sent to me and NOT the list... Anybody have a good on-line reference for setting up a FreeBSD box to act like the proposed ISP version of PicoBSD? Eventually I may go to the Pico version, but I am using the box for other testing purposes as well at this time. --------------------------- -BMW- To soar like an eagle, fly like a dove. (bwood@kingsu.ab.ca) Broderick Wood, Director of Information Technology Services The King's University College 9125 - 50 Street Edmonton, Alberta T6B 2H3 (780) 465-8315 (780) 465-3534 (FAX) ><> <>< To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-small" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-small Fri Oct 1 22:22: 3 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-small@freebsd.org Received: from mail.dcnv.com (mail.dcnv.com [216.33.117.136]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D1E6D14DED for ; Fri, 1 Oct 1999 22:21:49 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jeff@mail.dcnv.com) Received: (from jeff@localhost) by mail.dcnv.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id AAA15563 for freebsd-small@freebsd.org; Sat, 2 Oct 1999 00:25:52 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from jeff) Date: Sat, 2 Oct 1999 00:25:52 -0500 From: Jeff Harris To: freebsd-small@freebsd.org Subject: Help... heh. Message-ID: <19991002002552.B15170@dcnv.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.4i Sender: owner-freebsd-small@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Well, so I've been charged (well, okay, this is the way I want to do it), with making 100+ BSD-based machines all play server on our network, and it seems to me that installing freebsd onto all 100+ machines (We could easily scale to 500 or more) would make administrative duties a nightmare. So I thought, "What if all the machines just had a floppy in them, and they grabbed a root, usr, and var filesystem from the boot server(s), grabbed a dynamic ip address, booted up, used a local disk as swap, and loaded freebsd into a large-ish ramdisk." This way they could just be rebooted to install an upgraded software base, etc. The machines in question are big pIII/500's with 1gig+ of ram each, 100mbit ethernet, etc. They're fast. My question is, where do I start looking for info. I've seen lots of diskless stuff (well, okay, a few things) but these machines aren't totally diskless. They at least have a floppy. Anyone have any tips or pointers on where to look at? I think this is the direction I should move, as opposed to loading fbsd on each machine, running cvsup's on all of them and ssh'ing into each one to do a make world (or at least make installworld), and rsyncing our software (which is only apache-based). Anyways... Thanks, if anyone can help.. :) --- Jeff Harris - DigitalConvergence.Com jeff@dcnv.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-small" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-small Sat Oct 2 0:17:41 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-small@freebsd.org Received: from peach.ocn.ne.jp (peach.ocn.ne.jp [210.145.254.87]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 213DC14BE5 for ; Sat, 2 Oct 1999 00:17:34 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dcs@newsguy.com) Received: from newsguy.com (p10-dn02kiryunisiki.gunma.ocn.ne.jp [210.163.200.107]) by peach.ocn.ne.jp (8.9.1a/OCN) with ESMTP id QAA29191; Sat, 2 Oct 1999 16:17:25 +0900 (JST) Message-ID: <37F5B124.2446D85B@newsguy.com> Date: Sat, 02 Oct 1999 16:15:48 +0900 From: "Daniel C. Sobral" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.6 [en] (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: en,pt-BR,ja MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Jeff Harris Cc: freebsd-small@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Help... heh. References: <19991002002552.B15170@dcnv.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-small@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Jeff Harris wrote: > > The machines in question are big pIII/500's with 1gig+ of ram each, 100mbit > ethernet, etc. They're fast. My question is, where do I start looking for > info. I've seen lots of diskless stuff (well, okay, a few things) but these > machines aren't totally diskless. They at least have a floppy. Frankly, if the machines are networked, it would be better to have them as diskless. The floppy drive is slow and unreliable. I don't know if the reliability of floppies or floppy drives have decreased as their use diminishes, or if our driver isn't much good (well, it has never been much good, but it might have got worse), but problems that are traced back to bad floppies are often reported. If you make them diskless, you won't have trouble in case of the machines reboot for whatever reasons, no bad floppy problem, and maybe faster reboots. Better yet, changing the configuration is easier. So... why not? -- Daniel C. Sobral (8-DCS) dcs@newsguy.com dcs@freebsd.org Rule 69: Do unto other's code as you'd have it done unto yours To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-small" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-small Sat Oct 2 0:26:11 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-small@freebsd.org Received: from gratis.grondar.za (gratis.grondar.za [196.7.18.133]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0A36B15134 for ; Sat, 2 Oct 1999 00:25:59 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mark@grondar.za) Received: from grondar.za (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gratis.grondar.za (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA54491; Sat, 2 Oct 1999 09:25:47 +0200 (SAST) (envelope-from mark@grondar.za) Message-Id: <199910020725.JAA54491@gratis.grondar.za> To: Jeff Harris Cc: freebsd-small@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Help... heh. Date: Sat, 02 Oct 1999 09:25:46 +0200 From: Mark Murray Sender: owner-freebsd-small@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > Well, so I've been charged (well, okay, this is the way I want to do it), > with making 100+ BSD-based machines all play server on our network, and it > seems to me that installing freebsd onto all 100+ machines (We could easily > scale to 500 or more) would make administrative duties a nightmare. That is what NIS (AKA Yellow Pages) is good at. There is a good O'Reilly book on NIS/NFS. > So I thought, "What if all the machines just had a floppy in them, and they > grabbed a root, usr, and var filesystem from the boot server(s), grabbed a > dynamic ip address, booted up, used a local disk as swap, and loaded freebsd > into a large-ish ramdisk." This way they could just be rebooted to install > an upgraded software base, etc. Look at the /etc/rc.diskless* stuff in FreeBSD. > The machines in question are big pIII/500's with 1gig+ of ram each, 100mbit > ethernet, etc. They're fast. My question is, where do I start looking for > info. I've seen lots of diskless stuff (well, okay, a few things) but these > machines aren't totally diskless. They at least have a floppy. "Diskless" usually means "boots off network", not "has no disks whatsoever". > Anyone have any tips or pointers on where to look at? I think this is the > direction I should move, as opposed to loading fbsd on each machine, running > cvsup's on all of them and ssh'ing into each one to do a make world (or > at least make installworld), and rsyncing our software (which is only > apache-based). Diskless is a good direction. It is a bit fiddly, but not too difficult, and works well once you get it up. (I last did it 4 years ago - I reckon it will be easier now). M -- Mark Murray Join the anti-SPAM movement: http://www.cauce.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-small" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-small Sat Oct 2 1: 6:19 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-small@freebsd.org Received: from camus.cybercable.fr (camus.cybercable.fr [212.198.0.200]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 1995614E69 for ; Sat, 2 Oct 1999 01:06:11 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from starone@cybercable.fr) Received: (qmail 3984997 invoked from network); 2 Oct 1999 08:06:10 -0000 Received: from d014.strasbourg-249.cybercable.fr (HELO michelle.michelle-is.com) ([212.198.249.14]) (envelope-sender ) by camus.cybercable.fr (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for ; 2 Oct 1999 08:06:10 -0000 Message-Id: <3.0.6.16.19991002092645.283f6b34@mail.cybercable.fr> Organization: Michelle's Internet Service X-Link: http://www.michelle-is.com/index.htm X-Moto: Micr0$oft = What do you want to crash today? X-Sender: starone@mail.cybercable.fr X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.6 (16) Date: Sat, 02 Oct 1999 09:26:45 +0100 To: PicoBSD From: Michelle Konzack Subject: Re: 3c509 support ??? In-Reply-To: References: <3.0.6.16.19990930082818.0d475902@mail.cybercable.fr> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-freebsd-small@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hello and good morning. Yes, I know, it works with the Dial-Up-Floppy... ...but I mean the Dial-In-Floppy, the ISP like Internet access server. Why does it support only two Com-Ports ??? I like to use 4 internal Modems Courier-I 56k-ISDN and V.90-Analog. The Courier-I can controlled with the AT-Commandset Michelle At 22:11 01.10.1999 +0200, you wrote --------> This was the original Message: MK> MK>Your card is in the dialup version of PicoBSD and works fine here. Have MK>you configured it in the kernel configuration screen which pops up when MK>you boot PicoBSD? MK> MK>Maybe you could tell what isn't working and where? MK> MK>-- MK>Marc Schneiders MK> MK>marc@venster.nl MK>marc@oldserver.demon.nl MK> --------> The Reply begins not here, it is at the beginning ^ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-small" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-small Sat Oct 2 9:10:24 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-small@freebsd.org Received: from arg1.demon.co.uk (arg1.demon.co.uk [194.222.34.166]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9C0A515375 for ; Sat, 2 Oct 1999 09:09:49 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from arg@arg1.demon.co.uk) Received: from localhost (arg@localhost) by arg1.demon.co.uk (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id RAA28665; Sat, 2 Oct 1999 17:10:52 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from arg@arg1.demon.co.uk) Date: Sat, 2 Oct 1999 17:10:51 +0100 (BST) From: Andrew Gordon X-Sender: arg@server.arg.sj.co.uk To: Jeff Harris Cc: freebsd-small@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Help... heh. In-Reply-To: <19991002002552.B15170@dcnv.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-small@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sat, 2 Oct 1999, Jeff Harris wrote: > Well, so I've been charged (well, okay, this is the way I want to do it), > with making 100+ BSD-based machines all play server on our network, and it > seems to me that installing freebsd onto all 100+ machines (We could easily > scale to 500 or more) would make administrative duties a nightmare. 500+ PCs is probably a nightmare whichever way you do it... > The machines in question are big pIII/500's with 1gig+ of ram each, 100mbit > ethernet, etc. They're fast. My question is, where do I start looking for > info. I've seen lots of diskless stuff (well, okay, a few things) but these > machines aren't totally diskless. They at least have a floppy. Documentation is a bit confusing, as there are several different ways to do diskless booting, and even more ways to arrange the configuration after the initial boot stage. The state of the art on first-stage booting appears to be ports/net/etherboot (pending future developments in /sys/boot). Or you can probably still use the old /sys/i386/boot/netboot stuff if you build an a.out kernel - haven't tried it lately. Both of these are designed to boot from ROM, but if you really want to use those floppy drives, netboot or etherboot will compile a version that will run off a DOS floppy. Or you can boot a kernel of the floppy as for a normal local-disk setup but then mount an NFS root. The /etc/rc.diskless[12] stuff (and associated notes in /usr/share/examples/diskless) gives you one way to go for configuration, though it required a small amount of hacking for my requirements. > Anyone have any tips or pointers on where to look at? I think this is the > direction I should move, as opposed to loading fbsd on each machine, running > cvsup's on all of them and ssh'ing into each one to do a make world (or > at least make installworld), and rsyncing our software (which is only > apache-based). Another variation is CDROM boot/CDROM root. While you don't want CDROM drives to be constantly active (for reliability reasons), in applications which just load one application and keep on running it this can work well - the application and its files get cached in RAM and stay there, with the CD drive idle. I use this in a manufacturing test application - this way, there's nothing in the test stations that can possibly go corrupt even with the operators maltreating them (cutting the power etc). Test results get saved over the network to a machine away from the factory floor. And it's good for version control too: if I issue the right number of CDs, and demand return of the old ones, there's no chance of old versions of software getting used by accident. Drop me a line if you want sample config files or suchlike for any of this. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-small" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-small Sat Oct 2 9:13:22 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-small@freebsd.org Received: from arg1.demon.co.uk (arg1.demon.co.uk [194.222.34.166]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DF4DA1512E for ; Sat, 2 Oct 1999 09:13:06 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from arg@arg1.demon.co.uk) Received: from localhost (arg@localhost) by arg1.demon.co.uk (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id RAA28674; Sat, 2 Oct 1999 17:14:17 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from arg@arg1.demon.co.uk) Date: Sat, 2 Oct 1999 17:14:17 +0100 (BST) From: Andrew Gordon X-Sender: arg@server.arg.sj.co.uk To: "Daniel C. Sobral" Cc: freebsd-small@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Help... heh. In-Reply-To: <37F5B124.2446D85B@newsguy.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-small@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sat, 2 Oct 1999, Daniel C. Sobral wrote: > Frankly, if the machines are networked, it would be better to have > them as diskless. The floppy drive is slow and unreliable. I don't > know if the reliability of floppies or floppy drives have decreased > as their use diminishes, or if our driver isn't much good (well, it > has never been much good, but it might have got worse), but problems > that are traced back to bad floppies are often reported. I don't think it's the driver - just that floppy drives have got worse as the price has got squeezed out. I don't think high-quality ordinary floppy drives are available any more. However, I have had good experience using LS120 drives (just using them to read ordinary floppies, ignoring their high-capacity potential). To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-small" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-small Sat Oct 2 12:51:57 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-small@freebsd.org Received: from freeway.dcfinc.com (cx74889-a.phnx3.az.home.com [24.1.193.157]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F404214FD3 for ; Sat, 2 Oct 1999 12:51:23 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from chad@freeway.dcfinc.com) Received: (from chad@localhost) by freeway.dcfinc.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA07498; Sat, 2 Oct 1999 12:51:19 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from chad) From: "Chad R. Larson" Message-Id: <199910021951.MAA07498@freeway.dcfinc.com> Subject: Re: Help... heh. In-Reply-To: <37F5B124.2446D85B@newsguy.com> from "Daniel C. Sobral" at "Oct 2, 99 04:15:48 pm" To: dcs@newsguy.com (Daniel C. Sobral) Date: Sat, 2 Oct 1999 12:51:19 -0700 (MST) Cc: jeff@dcnv.com, freebsd-small@FreeBSD.ORG Reply-To: chad@DCFinc.com X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL40 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-small@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG As I recall, Daniel C. Sobral wrote: > Jeff Harris wrote: >> The machines in question are big pIII/500's with 1gig+ of ram each, >> 100mbit ethernet, etc. They're fast. My question is, where do I >> start looking for info. I've seen lots of diskless stuff (well, >> okay, a few things) but these machines aren't totally diskless. They >> at least have a floppy. > > If you make them diskless, you won't have trouble in case of the > machines reboot for whatever reasons, no bad floppy problem, and > maybe faster reboots. Better yet, changing the configuration is > easier. So... why not? Does anyone here know how Yahoo! flys their armada of PCs? They've probably solved a lot of these issues already. But given the stated application (Apache web service) on identically configured machines, it sounds like diskless would be the way to go. Pick an Ethernet card that supports the diskless boot. You'll want NIC/NFS/DHCP up on a redundant pair of master servers. -crl -- Chad R. Larson (CRL15) 602-953-1392 Brother, can you paradigm? chad@dcfinc.com chad@larsons.org larson1@home.net DCF, Inc. - 14623 North 49th Place, Scottsdale, Arizona 85254-2207 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-small" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-small Sat Oct 2 22:10: 9 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-small@freebsd.org Received: from peach.ocn.ne.jp (peach.ocn.ne.jp [210.145.254.87]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3E59A14A06 for ; Sat, 2 Oct 1999 22:10:06 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dcs@newsguy.com) Received: from newsguy.com (p21-dn02kiryunisiki.gunma.ocn.ne.jp [210.163.200.118]) by peach.ocn.ne.jp (8.9.1a/OCN) with ESMTP id OAA10159; Sun, 3 Oct 1999 14:09:58 +0900 (JST) Message-ID: <37F6E4C4.BFD0B036@newsguy.com> Date: Sun, 03 Oct 1999 14:08:20 +0900 From: "Daniel C. Sobral" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.6 [en] (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: en,pt-BR,ja MIME-Version: 1.0 To: chad@DCFinc.com Cc: jeff@dcnv.com, freebsd-small@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Help... heh. References: <199910021951.MAA07498@freeway.dcfinc.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-small@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG "Chad R. Larson" wrote: > > But given the stated application (Apache web service) on identically > configured machines, it sounds like diskless would be the way to > go. Pick an Ethernet card that supports the diskless boot. You'll > want NIC/NFS/DHCP up on a redundant pair of master servers. You don't need identically configured machines. That's what rc.conf.local is for. You can have it sym-link to a file in a directory mounted local (if the machines have disk), or even to machine-specific nfs mounted directories. The advantage is that you keep the things that _are_ equal, such as "world" :-) and installed packages, common to all machines. The configuration itself may vary. The the rc.diskless* stuff. It's powerful. -- Daniel C. Sobral (8-DCS) dcs@newsguy.com dcs@freebsd.org Rule 69: Do unto other's code as you'd have it done unto yours To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-small" in the body of the message