From owner-freebsd-smp Mon Jan 18 13:33:00 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA14861 for freebsd-smp-outgoing; Mon, 18 Jan 1999 13:33:00 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-smp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from luke.pmr.com (luke.pmr.com [207.170.114.132]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA14856 for ; Mon, 18 Jan 1999 13:32:58 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from bob@luke.pmr.com) Received: (from bob@localhost) by luke.pmr.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA05829 for freebsd-smp@freebsd.org; Mon, 18 Jan 1999 15:32:53 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from bob) Message-ID: <19990118153253.A5773@pmr.com> Date: Mon, 18 Jan 1999 15:32:53 -0600 From: Bob Willcox To: SMP list Subject: ASUS XG-DLS users?? Reply-To: Bob Willcox Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.93.2i Sender: owner-freebsd-smp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi All, I am considering getting an ASUS XG-DLS motherboard and running FreeBSD 3.0 on it with two Xeon CPUs. Is there anyone out there that has this configuration on FreeBSD? Thanks, Bob -- Bob Willcox The man who follows the crowd will usually get no bob@luke.pmr.com further than the crowd. The man who walks alone is Austin, TX likely to find himself in places no one has ever been. -- Alan Ashley-Pitt To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-smp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-smp Thu Jan 21 11:06:54 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA13405 for freebsd-smp-outgoing; Thu, 21 Jan 1999 11:06:54 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-smp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from o-o.org (o-o.org [207.252.201.100]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA13400 for ; Thu, 21 Jan 1999 11:06:52 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from licia@o-o.org) Received: from localhost (root@localhost) by o-o.org (8.8.8/8.8.7) with SMTP id NAA24978 for ; Thu, 21 Jan 1999 13:06:42 -0600 (CST) Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1999 13:06:41 -0600 (CST) From: Licia To: smp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: smp and clustering Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-smp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I'm becoming interested in the concept of clustering computers (at least I believe that's the term for what I'm interested in :) ) and I was wondering if someone could advise me as to the feasibility of modifying the SMP system in FreeBSD to support sharing processors and memory with a completely separate computer, over a high speed ethernet connection? [ licia@o-o.org ] [ http://www.o-o.org/~licia/ ] [ Alias : Ladywolf] [ Telnet to o-o.org and log in as bbs ] [ http://www.o-o.org/ ] [ A happy user of FreeBSD : http://www.freebsd.org/ ] [ FreeBSD : The last Windows upgrade you'll ever need. [ This user boycotts all Microsoft products and services ] To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-smp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-smp Thu Jan 21 13:20:52 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA29316 for freebsd-smp-outgoing; Thu, 21 Jan 1999 13:20:52 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-smp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from xa.rich.org (216-119-137-48.ipset17.wt.net [216.119.137.48]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA29309 for ; Thu, 21 Jan 1999 13:20:51 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from rich@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: (from rich@localhost) by xa.rich.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id PAA14532; Thu, 21 Jan 1999 15:19:13 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from rich@xa.rich.org) Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1999 15:19:13 -0600 (CST) Message-Id: <199901212119.PAA14532@xa.rich.org> X-Authentication-Warning: xa.rich.org: rich set sender to rich@xa.rich.org using -f From: Murphey To: licia@o-o.org CC: smp@FreeBSD.ORG In-reply-to: (message from Licia on Thu, 21 Jan 1999 13:06:41 -0600 (CST)) Subject: Re: smp and clustering Reply-to: rich@FreeBSD.ORG References: Sender: owner-freebsd-smp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org >Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1999 13:06:41 -0600 (CST) >From: Licia > > >I'm becoming interested in the concept of clustering computers (at least >I believe that's the term for what I'm interested in :) ) and I was wondering >if someone could advise me as to the feasibility of modifying the SMP system >in FreeBSD to support sharing processors and memory with a completely separate >computer, over a high speed ethernet connection? As far as I know there aren't any readily available ports of shared distributed memory systems (DSMs) for a current release of FreeBSD. I'd be interested in them as well if there are. You might want to look at the Zounds DSM by Ron Minnich. It hasn't been ported to a recent release as far as I know though. There's also DIPC (distribured IPC) that supports distributed semaphores and shared memory, but I havne't seen a port of it either. On the other hand, setting up parallel distributed memory applications is relatively easy if you use PVM and/or MPICH which are both in the ports collection. Rich To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-smp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-smp Thu Jan 21 14:00:50 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA03949 for freebsd-smp-outgoing; Thu, 21 Jan 1999 14:00:50 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-smp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from oreo.adsu.bellsouth.com (oreo.adsu.bellsouth.com [205.152.173.36]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA03944 for ; Thu, 21 Jan 1999 14:00:47 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from ck@oreo.adsu.bellsouth.com) Received: (from ck@localhost) by oreo.adsu.bellsouth.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) id RAA77667; Thu, 21 Jan 1999 17:00:09 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from ck) Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1999 17:00:09 -0500 From: Christian Kuhtz To: Licia Cc: smp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: smp and clustering Message-ID: <19990121170009.K5050@oreo.adsu.bellsouth.com> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95i In-Reply-To: ; from Licia on Thu, Jan 21, 1999 at 01:06:41PM -0600 Sender: owner-freebsd-smp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Thu, Jan 21, 1999 at 01:06:41PM -0600, Licia wrote: > > I'm becoming interested in the concept of clustering computers (at least > I believe that's the term for what I'm interested in :) ) and I was wondering > if someone could advise me as to the feasibility of modifying the SMP system > in FreeBSD to support sharing processors and memory with a completely separate > computer, over a high speed ethernet connection? Depends on how you define feasibility. What you're talking about is probably a distributed memory system, which is quite different from a shared memory system (SMP). AFAIK, from having thought about that a while back, it would be a (IMHO) fairly complex change, since FreeBSD wasn't designed from ground up to be that kind of box. When you have shared memory, you can "cheat" with interprocessor communication (because you got lots of it and it is very fast). Compared with distributed memory, where you have usually (among many other things) a fairly low speed internode link, you need to do things a little differently. You may want to experiment with PVM (and cohorts) if you are interested in distributed memory concepts. And you probably want to get familiar with MPI. Check out any of the well known supercomputing sites (or PVM's homepage for instance) for details. PVM, MPI and variants/related packages is was most people use these days when they talk about clusters (unless you got a very specialized machine). There's a very good book on clusters, btw.. Gregory F. Pfister In Search Of Clusters ISBN 0-13-899709-8 US$44.95 Cheers, Chris -- "Logic is a little bird, sitting in a tree; that smells *awful*." -- /usr/bin/fortune [Disclaimer: I speak for myself and my views are my own and not in any way to be construed as the views of BellSouth Corporation. ] To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-smp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-smp Thu Jan 21 15:19:24 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA12733 for freebsd-smp-outgoing; Thu, 21 Jan 1999 15:19:24 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-smp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from cs.rice.edu (cs.rice.edu [128.42.1.30]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA12726; Thu, 21 Jan 1999 15:19:19 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from alc@cs.rice.edu) Received: from nonpc.cs.rice.edu (nonpc.cs.rice.edu [128.42.1.219]) by cs.rice.edu (8.9.0/8.9.0) with ESMTP id RAA24920; Thu, 21 Jan 1999 17:19:09 -0600 (CST) Received: (from alc@localhost) by nonpc.cs.rice.edu (8.8.8/8.7.3) id RAA06108; Thu, 21 Jan 1999 17:19:09 -0600 (CST) Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1999 17:19:09 -0600 From: Alan Cox To: Murphey Cc: licia@o-o.org, smp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: smp and clustering Message-ID: <19990121171909.D4582@nonpc.cs.rice.edu> References: <199901212119.PAA14532@xa.rich.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.1i In-Reply-To: <199901212119.PAA14532@xa.rich.org>; from Murphey on Thu, Jan 21, 1999 at 03:19:13PM -0600 Sender: owner-freebsd-smp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Thu, Jan 21, 1999 at 03:19:13PM -0600, Murphey wrote: > > As far as I know there aren't any readily available > ports of shared distributed memory systems (DSMs) for a > current release of FreeBSD. I'd be interested in them > as well if there are. > The TreadMarks software DSM system runs on FreeBSD. In fact, a cluster of 32 PII's running FreeBSD is our primary development platform. Take a look at http://www.cs.rice.edu/~willy/TreadMarks/overview.html for more information. Alan To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-smp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-smp Thu Jan 21 16:32:13 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA25784 for freebsd-smp-outgoing; Thu, 21 Jan 1999 16:32:13 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-smp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from internexus.net (internexus.net [206.152.14.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id QAA25775 for ; Thu, 21 Jan 1999 16:32:09 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from compat@internexus.net) Message-Id: <199901220032.QAA25775@hub.freebsd.org> Received: (qmail 32076 invoked from network); 22 Jan 1999 00:31:32 -0000 Received: from ppp31.internexus.net (HELO mother) (206.152.14.223) by internexus.net with SMTP; 22 Jan 1999 00:31:32 -0000 X-Sender: compat@mail.internexus.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.0.1 Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1999 19:29:53 -0500 To: smp@FreeBSD.ORG From: cliff ainsworth III Subject: Re: smp and clustering In-Reply-To: <199901212119.PAA14532@xa.rich.org> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-freebsd-smp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Here's another question, how hard would it be play with the linux version and make it work with freebsd. I've haven't written anything since trs-dos, so go easy on me with the answer :) /cliff To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-smp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-smp Thu Jan 21 21:47:56 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id VAA22053 for freebsd-smp-outgoing; Thu, 21 Jan 1999 21:47:56 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-smp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from sv01.cet.co.jp (sv01.cet.co.jp [210.171.56.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id VAA22041 for ; Thu, 21 Jan 1999 21:47:50 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from michaelh@cet.co.jp) Received: from localhost (michaelh@localhost) by sv01.cet.co.jp (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id FAA27126; Fri, 22 Jan 1999 05:47:32 GMT (envelope-from michaelh@cet.co.jp) Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1999 14:47:32 +0900 (JST) From: Michael Hancock To: Alan Cox cc: smp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: smp and clustering In-Reply-To: <19990121171909.D4582@nonpc.cs.rice.edu> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-smp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Thu, 21 Jan 1999, Alan Cox wrote: > The TreadMarks software DSM system runs on FreeBSD. In fact, > a cluster of 32 PII's running FreeBSD is our primary development > platform. > > Take a look at http://www.cs.rice.edu/~willy/TreadMarks/overview.html > for more information. Ah. So that's what you were working on. Your VM contributions to FreeBSD are appreciated. Regards, Mike Hancock To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-smp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-smp Fri Jan 22 15:04:36 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA28195 for freebsd-smp-outgoing; Fri, 22 Jan 1999 15:04:36 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-smp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from MERCURY.CS.UREGINA.CA (MERCURY.CS.UREGINA.CA [142.3.200.53]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA28187; Fri, 22 Jan 1999 15:04:33 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from karimi@cs.uregina.ca) Received: (from karimi@localhost) by MERCURY.CS.UREGINA.CA (8.8.5/8.7.5) id RAA18145; Fri, 22 Jan 1999 17:04:09 -0600 (CST) Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1999 17:04:08 -0600 (CST) From: Kamran Karimi To: rich@FreeBSD.ORG cc: freebsd-smp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: smp and clustering Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-smp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org >You might want to look at the Zounds DSM by Ron >Minnich. It hasn't been ported to a recent release as >far as I know though. There's also DIPC (distribured >IPC) that supports distributed semaphores and shared >memory, but I havne't seen a port of it either. DIPC makes all System V IPC mechanisms (shared memories, messages, and semaphores) work transparently over a network. It is currently only available for Linux, but I think it can be ported to FreeBSD. DIPC extends a SMP programming interface to a multi-computer (clustered PCs). For more information and downloading the package (includes the sources), visit http://wallybox.cei.net/dipc -Kamran Karimi To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-smp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-smp Fri Jan 22 16:32:41 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA11273 for freebsd-smp-outgoing; Fri, 22 Jan 1999 16:32:41 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-smp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from wireless.net (wireless.net [207.137.156.159] (may be forged)) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA11268 for ; Fri, 22 Jan 1999 16:32:39 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from bad@wireless.net) Received: (from bad@localhost) by wireless.net (8.8.7/8.8.4) id QAA01682 for smp@freebsd.org; Fri, 22 Jan 1999 16:34:12 -0800 (PST) Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1999 16:34:12 -0800 (PST) From: Bernie Doehner Message-Id: <199901230034.QAA01682@wireless.net> To: smp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: 2.2.8R Sender: owner-freebsd-smp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi: Could someone PLEASE confirm that SMP support will NOT work under < 3.0-RELEASE? My boss doesn't believe me when I told him that one needs to be running 3.0-RELEASE and up in order to build an SMP kernel that works, and I couldn't find anything on the mailing list archives stating that 2.2.8-R is somehow supported. Thanks. Bernie To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-smp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-smp Fri Jan 22 17:20:14 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id RAA16383 for freebsd-smp-outgoing; Fri, 22 Jan 1999 17:20:14 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-smp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from bright.fx.genx.net (bright.fx.genx.net [206.64.4.154]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id RAA16331 for ; Fri, 22 Jan 1999 17:20:06 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from bright@hotjobs.com) Received: from localhost (bright@localhost) by bright.fx.genx.net (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id UAA94111; Fri, 22 Jan 1999 20:26:00 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from bright@hotjobs.com) X-Authentication-Warning: bright.fx.genx.net: bright owned process doing -bs Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1999 20:26:00 -0500 (EST) From: Alfred Perlstein X-Sender: bright@bright.fx.genx.net To: Bernie Doehner cc: smp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: 2.2.8R In-Reply-To: <199901230034.QAA01682@wireless.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-smp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Fri, 22 Jan 1999, Bernie Doehner wrote: > Hi: > > Could someone PLEASE confirm that SMP support will NOT work under > < 3.0-RELEASE? > > My boss doesn't believe me when I told him that one needs to be running > 3.0-RELEASE and up in order to build an SMP kernel that works, and I couldn't > find anything on the mailing list archives stating that 2.2.8-R is somehow > supported. You're wrong, 3.0 has supported SMP for quite a bit of time before 3.0-RELEASE, however afaik, 2.2.anything NEVER had SMP. 3.0 == SMP 2.2 == no SMP Alfred Perlstein - Programmer, HotJobs Inc. - www.hotjobs.com -- There are operating systems, and then there's FreeBSD. -- http://www.freebsd.org/ 4.0-current To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-smp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-smp Fri Jan 22 18:10:50 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id SAA23249 for freebsd-smp-outgoing; Fri, 22 Jan 1999 18:10:50 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-smp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from panzer.plutotech.com (panzer.plutotech.com [206.168.67.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id SAA23243 for ; Fri, 22 Jan 1999 18:10:47 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from ken@panzer.plutotech.com) Received: (from ken@localhost) by panzer.plutotech.com (8.9.2/8.8.5) id TAA49932; Fri, 22 Jan 1999 19:10:30 -0700 (MST) From: "Kenneth D. Merry" Message-Id: <199901230210.TAA49932@panzer.plutotech.com> Subject: Re: 2.2.8R In-Reply-To: <199901230034.QAA01682@wireless.net> from Bernie Doehner at "Jan 22, 99 04:34:12 pm" To: bad@wireless.net (Bernie Doehner) Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1999 19:10:30 -0700 (MST) Cc: smp@FreeBSD.ORG X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL28s (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-smp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Bernie Doehner wrote... > Hi: > > Could someone PLEASE confirm that SMP support will NOT work under > < 3.0-RELEASE? You are correct. > My boss doesn't believe me when I told him that one needs to be running > 3.0-RELEASE and up in order to build an SMP kernel that works, and I couldn't > find anything on the mailing list archives stating that 2.2.8-R is somehow > supported. Yep, the only full release with SMP support is 3.0-RELEASE. 2.2.8 does not support SMP. Ken -- Kenneth Merry ken@plutotech.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-smp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-smp Fri Jan 22 18:41:59 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id SAA27396 for freebsd-smp-outgoing; Fri, 22 Jan 1999 18:41:59 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-smp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from wireless.net (wireless.net [207.137.156.159] (may be forged)) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id SAA27387 for ; Fri, 22 Jan 1999 18:41:56 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from bad@uhf.wireless.net) Received: from uhf.wireless.net (uhf.wireless.net [209.75.70.121]) by wireless.net (8.8.7/8.8.4) with ESMTP id SAA02145; Fri, 22 Jan 1999 18:43:34 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (bad@localhost) by uhf.wireless.net (8.9.2/8.9.1) with ESMTP id VAA00527; Fri, 22 Jan 1999 21:42:46 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from bad@uhf.wireless.net) Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1999 21:42:45 -0500 (EST) From: Bernie Doehner To: Alfred Perlstein cc: smp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: 2.2.8R In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-smp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Fri, 22 Jan 1999, Alfred Perlstein wrote: > Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1999 20:26:00 -0500 (EST) > From: Alfred Perlstein > To: Bernie Doehner > Cc: smp@FreeBSD.ORG > Subject: Re: 2.2.8R > You're wrong, 3.0 has supported SMP for quite a bit of time before > 3.0-RELEASE, however afaik, 2.2.anything NEVER had SMP. Argghh.. You got me there! This is an ISP environment, so things have to be a little stable, and I automaticaly jump to the -RELEASE (by default).. However, my managers don't think 3.0-R is stable, so 2.2.anything is the "requirement". Bernie To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-smp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-smp Fri Jan 22 19:04:07 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id TAA00169 for freebsd-smp-outgoing; Fri, 22 Jan 1999 19:04:07 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-smp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from bright.fx.genx.net (bright.fx.genx.net [206.64.4.154]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id TAA00153 for ; Fri, 22 Jan 1999 19:04:05 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from bright@hotjobs.com) Received: from localhost (bright@localhost) by bright.fx.genx.net (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id WAA94209; Fri, 22 Jan 1999 22:10:01 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from bright@hotjobs.com) X-Authentication-Warning: bright.fx.genx.net: bright owned process doing -bs Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1999 22:10:00 -0500 (EST) From: Alfred Perlstein X-Sender: bright@bright.fx.genx.net To: Bernie Doehner cc: smp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: 2.2.8R In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-smp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Fri, 22 Jan 1999, Bernie Doehner wrote: > > Subject: Re: 2.2.8R > > You're wrong, 3.0 has supported SMP for quite a bit of time before > > 3.0-RELEASE, however afaik, 2.2.anything NEVER had SMP. > > Argghh.. You got me there! This is an ISP environment, so things have to > be a little stable, and I automaticaly jump to the -RELEASE (by default).. > > However, my managers don't think 3.0-R is stable, so 2.2.anything is the > "requirement". 3.1 was just branded '-stable' 4.0 is the new developer release ie. 'experimental' -Alfred To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-smp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-smp Sat Jan 23 00:30:09 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id AAA01294 for freebsd-smp-outgoing; Sat, 23 Jan 1999 00:30:09 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-smp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from ns1.seidata.com (ns1.seidata.com [208.10.211.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id AAA01287 for ; Sat, 23 Jan 1999 00:30:06 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mike@seidata.com) From: mike@seidata.com Received: from localhost (mike@localhost) by ns1.seidata.com (8.8.8/8.8.5) with ESMTP id DAA24155; Sat, 23 Jan 1999 03:29:53 -0500 (EST) Date: Sat, 23 Jan 1999 03:29:53 -0500 (EST) To: Bernie Doehner cc: Alfred Perlstein , smp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: 2.2.8R In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-smp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Fri, 22 Jan 1999, Bernie Doehner wrote: > However, my managers don't think 3.0-R is stable, so 2.2.anything is the > "requirement". Hmm... ~15-20k users running quite well on 3.0-RELEASE. Using it for our web cluster, DNS servers, mail machines, LAN's NATD/IPFW and much more... no problems yet. -- Mike Hoskins System/Network Administrator SEI Data Network Services, Inc. http://www.seidata.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-smp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-smp Sat Jan 23 21:13:03 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id VAA11404 for freebsd-smp-outgoing; Sat, 23 Jan 1999 21:13:03 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-smp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from picnic.mat.net (b133.mat.net [206.246.122.133] (may be forged)) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id VAA11398 for ; Sat, 23 Jan 1999 21:13:01 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from chuckr@glue.umd.edu) Received: from localhost (chuckr@localhost) by picnic.mat.net (8.9.1/8.8.5) with ESMTP id AAA00381; Sun, 24 Jan 1999 00:11:20 -0500 (EST) Date: Sun, 24 Jan 1999 00:11:20 -0500 (EST) From: Chuck Robey X-Sender: chuckr@picnic.mat.net To: Alfred Perlstein cc: Bernie Doehner , smp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: 2.2.8R In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-smp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Fri, 22 Jan 1999, Alfred Perlstein wrote: > On Fri, 22 Jan 1999, Bernie Doehner wrote: > > > > Subject: Re: 2.2.8R > > > You're wrong, 3.0 has supported SMP for quite a bit of time before > > > 3.0-RELEASE, however afaik, 2.2.anything NEVER had SMP. > > > > Argghh.. You got me there! This is an ISP environment, so things have to > > be a little stable, and I automaticaly jump to the -RELEASE (by default).. > > > > However, my managers don't think 3.0-R is stable, so 2.2.anything is the > > "requirement". > > 3.1 was just branded '-stable' > 4.0 is the new developer release ie. 'experimental' > Guys, smp *was* part of FreeBSD back in 2.2 days, but it was on a separate tree (a separate cvs archive at freefall) and not part of any release prior to 3.0-RELEASE. Back in the days of FreeBSD 2.2, I ran current, *and* I ran smp. That's not release, understand, so maybe this is getting a tad complicated. > -Alfred > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-smp" in the body of the message > > ----------------------------+----------------------------------------------- Chuck Robey | Interests include any kind of voice or data chuckr@glue.umd.edu | communications topic, C programming, and Unix. 213 Lakeside Drive Apt T-1 | Greenbelt, MD 20770 | I run Journey2 and picnic (FreeBSD-current) (301) 220-2114 | and jaunt (NetBSD). ----------------------------+----------------------------------------------- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-smp" in the body of the message