From owner-freebsd-sparc Tue Jul 6 7:43:58 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-sparc@freebsd.org Received: from gal.moya.net (gal.interq.co.kr [210.217.32.104]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 300871541D for ; Tue, 6 Jul 1999 07:43:54 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from eek@moya.net) Received: from itsnot4u (itsnot4u.interq.co.kr [210.217.32.116]) by gal.moya.net (8.9.2/8.9.2) with SMTP id XAA26355 for ; Tue, 6 Jul 1999 23:36:00 +0900 (KST) Message-ID: <000701bec7bd$0019f4c0$7420d9d2@moya.net> From: =?ks_c_5601-1987?B?waTB9r/4?= To: Subject: subscribe Date: Tue, 6 Jul 1999 23:36:56 +0900 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ks_c_5601-1987" Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2014.211 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2014.211 Sender: owner-freebsd-sparc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org c3Vic2NyaWJlIGZyZWVic2Qtc3BhcmMNCg0K To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-sparc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-sparc Tue Jul 6 7:46:56 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-sparc@freebsd.org Received: from gryphon.itssa.curtin.edu.au (unknown [134.7.72.31]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9A68814C83 for ; Tue, 6 Jul 1999 07:46:52 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from satherrl@gryphon.itssa.curtin.edu.au) Received: (from satherrl@localhost) by gryphon.itssa.curtin.edu.au (8.9.3/8.9.3) id WAA01675; Tue, 6 Jul 1999 22:46:20 +0800 (WST) (envelope-from satherrl) Date: Tue, 6 Jul 1999 22:46:20 +0800 (WST) From: Richard Sather Message-Id: <199907061446.WAA01675@gryphon.itssa.curtin.edu.au> To: eek@moya.net, freebsd-sparc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: subscribe In-Reply-To: <000701bec7bd$0019f4c0$7420d9d2@moya.net> Sender: owner-freebsd-sparc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org try majordomo@freebsd.org instead To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-sparc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-sparc Tue Jul 6 14:15: 7 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-sparc@freebsd.org Received: from fep01-svc.tin.it (mta01-acc.tin.it [212.216.176.32]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3452314E0F for ; Tue, 6 Jul 1999 14:15:03 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from paipai@box4.tin.it) Received: from winworkstation ([212.216.236.104]) by fep01-svc.tin.it (InterMail v4.0 201-221-105) with SMTP id <19981210011112.EMA26585.fep01-svc@winworkstation> for ; Thu, 10 Dec 1998 02:11:12 +0100 Comments: Authenticated sender is From: "Paolo Di Francesco" To: freebsd-sparc@FreeBSD.ORG Date: Thu, 10 Dec 1998 02:14:17 +0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: Re: Read this... X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v2.53/R1) Message-Id: <19981210011112.EMA26585.fep01-svc@winworkstation> Sender: owner-freebsd-sparc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > Alfred Perlstein wrote: > > Will someone with more courage and experiance than I please speak up about > > this, perhaps contact sun? > > Please _don't_ ask Sun for anything until you have a working port on > limited hardware. I doubt that anyone following this list would be > prepared to spend $$$ based on what has been said so far. Those people > who have access to Sun machines should be able to do a port with neither > financial nor moral support from Sun. If you want this sort of support, > you have to earn it. Let me explain the meaning of the word "support" from my personal point of view: 1) I haven't any Sun Hardware. I'm a student and I cannot pay 3000$ for a Sun Ultra5, only to "play" with it. I would have an AXi motherboard (good for experiments) but it costs too much. So, for the hardware I would have something like 50% of the price (no free hardware, at actual stage). Why Sun could give me/us this: I have not 3000$, and actually there are few persons with an Ultra box, so _if_ Sun wants more developers on this project they must help in some way. This is the situation it's not "charity"... Please note also the word "Open" also means: I can buy it for a good price. 2) Docs, pdf and other things.... On Intel you can find _anything_ about "how it boots", "how it works", books and docs. If you go in a bookstore you can find many books about "everything". Not the same situation on Sparc. So again: "Open" means I can read "how it works" without paying 500$... 3) Moral support. Actually, if Sun (SME) will put something on-line about the harware we can do a good job (something that works/boots on limited hardware) with no moral support. We can do experiments where "I don't know how it works" and read where "it's documented at page..." Thanks for youe time 8) Ciao Ciao Paolo Di Francesco _ ->B<- All Recycled Bytes Message ... ~ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-sparc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-sparc Tue Jul 6 14:17:16 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-sparc@freebsd.org Received: from mail.naviant.com (mail.naviant.com [207.106.77.11]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id E227614E0F for ; Tue, 6 Jul 1999 14:17:12 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from lgriffin@naviant.com) Received: from plato ([207.245.86.222]) by mail.naviant.com (SMI-8.6/mail.byaddr) with SMTP id RAA03287 for ; Tue, 6 Jul 1999 17:17:11 -0400 (envelope-from lgriffin@naviant.com) From: "Lyndon Griffin" To: Subject: RE: Read this... Date: Tue, 6 Jul 1999 17:19:51 -0400 Message-ID: <000901bec7f5$48dc3aa0$de01020a@naviant.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <19981210011112.EMA26585.fep01-svc@winworkstation> Sender: owner-freebsd-sparc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org It's the return of the POST FROM HELL!!!!! > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-freebsd-sparc@FreeBSD.ORG > [mailto:owner-freebsd-sparc@FreeBSD.ORG]On Behalf Of Paolo Di Francesco > Sent: Wednesday, December 09, 1998 9:14 PM > To: freebsd-sparc@FreeBSD.ORG > Subject: Re: Read this... > > > > > > Alfred Perlstein wrote: > > > Will someone with more courage and experiance than I please > speak up about > > > this, perhaps contact sun? > > > > > Please _don't_ ask Sun for anything until you have a working port on > > limited hardware. I doubt that anyone following this list would be > > prepared to spend $$$ based on what has been said so far. Those people > > who have access to Sun machines should be able to do a port with neither > > financial nor moral support from Sun. If you want this sort of support, > > you have to earn it. > > Let me explain the meaning of the word "support" from my personal > point of > view: > > 1) I haven't any Sun Hardware. I'm a student and I cannot pay > 3000$ for a Sun > Ultra5, only to "play" with it. I would have an AXi motherboard (good for > experiments) but it costs too much. So, for the hardware I would > have something > like 50% of the price (no free hardware, at actual stage). Why > Sun could give > me/us this: I have not 3000$, and actually there are few persons > with an Ultra > box, so _if_ Sun wants more developers on this project they must > help in some > way. This is the situation it's not "charity"... Please note also > the word > "Open" also means: I can buy it for a good price. > > 2) Docs, pdf and other things.... On Intel you can find > _anything_ about "how > it boots", "how it works", books and docs. If you go in a > bookstore you can > find many books about "everything". Not the same situation on Sparc. > So again: "Open" means I can read "how it works" without paying 500$... > > 3) Moral support. Actually, if Sun (SME) will put something > on-line about the > harware we can do a good job (something that works/boots on > limited hardware) > with no moral support. We can do experiments where "I don't know > how it works" > and read where "it's documented at page..." > > Thanks for youe time 8) > > > > Ciao Ciao > Paolo Di Francesco > _ > ->B<- All Recycled Bytes Message ... > ~ > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-sparc" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-sparc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-sparc Tue Jul 6 14:22:20 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-sparc@freebsd.org Received: from fep03-svc.tin.it (mta03-acc.tin.it [212.216.176.34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6B64E14E0F for ; Tue, 6 Jul 1999 14:22:14 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from paipai@box4.tin.it) Received: from harlock ([212.216.234.125]) by fep03-svc.tin.it (InterMail v4.0 201-221-105) with SMTP id <19990706212212.HJEF20919.fep03-svc@harlock> for ; Tue, 6 Jul 1999 23:22:12 +0200 From: "Paolo Di Francesco" To: freebsd-sparc@FreeBSD.ORG Date: Tue, 6 Jul 1999 23:29:37 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: Re: Read this... In-reply-to: <19981210011112.EMA26585.fep01-svc@winworkstation> X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v3.01d) Message-Id: <19990706212212.HJEF20919.fep03-svc@harlock> Sender: owner-freebsd-sparc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Sorry, the nightmare goes on.... 8( -- Ciao Ciao Paolo Di Francesco _ ->B<- All Recycled Bytes Message ... ~ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-sparc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-sparc Tue Jul 6 16: 3:58 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-sparc@freebsd.org Received: from mail.rwth-aachen.de (mail.RWTH-Aachen.DE [137.226.144.9]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1B3F51534C for ; Tue, 6 Jul 1999 16:03:33 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from heinig@hdz-ima.rwth-aachen.de) Received: from postfix.hdz-ima.rwth-aachen.de by mail.rwth-aachen.de (PMDF V5.1-12 #D3869) with ESMTP id <01JD9J90DI3G0005HT@mail.rwth-aachen.de> for freebsd-sparc@freebsd.org; Wed, 7 Jul 1999 01:04:04 +0200 Received: from aphrodite.hdz-ima.rwth-aachen.de [137.226.126.8] by postfix.hdz-ima.rwth-aachen.de with esmtp (Exim 2.05 #1 (Debian)) id 111eFJ-0003f9-00; Wed, 07 Jul 1999 01:03:25 +0200 Received: from hdz-ima.rwth-aachen.de (s4m033.dialup.RWTH-Aachen.DE [137.226.8.33]) by aphrodite.hdz-ima.rwth-aachen.de (8.9.3/8.9.0) with ESMTP id BAA04872; Wed, 07 Jul 1999 01:03:23 +0200 (MET DST) Date: Wed, 07 Jul 1999 01:03:14 +0200 From: Gerald Heinig Subject: Re: Read this... To: Paolo Di Francesco Cc: freebsd-sparc@FreeBSD.ORG Message-id: <37828B32.F6272C39@hdz-ima.rwth-aachen.de> Organization: Institute of Computer Science in Mechanical Engineering MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.6 [en] (X11; I; FreeBSD 3.1-RELEASE i386) Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Accept-Language: en References: <19990706212212.HJEF20919.fep03-svc@harlock> Sender: owner-freebsd-sparc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Paolo Di Francesco wrote: > Sorry, the nightmare goes on.... 8( Well, I wish I could prove you wrong, but unfortunately I have to agree :-( So far, an intensive (and increasingly expensive) search of www.sun.com, docs.sun.com and access1.sun.com hasn't yielded anything that comes close to what I'd call a technical reference manual. There are two options open, as far as I can see: open up my Sun, look at all the stuff inside, get its part no. and get the info for it (if it's available), or, ask someone at NetBSD.org how they did it. Option 2 is somewhat unsatisfying, since they must have got their info from somewhere... If anyone has better ideas/wishes to flame me for being a fool etc etc please go ahead. If it points me in the right direction, that's fine by me :-) Cheers, Gerald PS. I've also looked at www.sparc.org and they seem to have nice manuals for Sparc CPUs etc which are OK-ish pricewise, but that only explains the CPU, not the Lance chips, the esp chip, the floppy controller etc etc To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-sparc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-sparc Tue Jul 6 21:51:14 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-sparc@freebsd.org Received: from atdot.dotat.org (atdot.dotat.org [150.101.89.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 07B5414CBE for ; Tue, 6 Jul 1999 21:51:06 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from newton@atdot.dotat.org) Received: (from newton@localhost) by atdot.dotat.org (8.9.3/8.7) id OAA74556; Wed, 7 Jul 1999 14:17:26 +0930 (CST) From: Mark Newton Message-Id: <199907070447.OAA74556@atdot.dotat.org> Subject: Re: Read this... To: heinig@hdz-ima.rwth-aachen.de (Gerald Heinig) Date: Wed, 7 Jul 1999 14:17:26 +0930 (CST) Cc: paipai@tin.it, freebsd-sparc@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <37828B32.F6272C39@hdz-ima.rwth-aachen.de> from "Gerald Heinig" at Jul 7, 99 01:03:14 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL25] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-sparc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Gerald Heinig wrote: > So far, an intensive (and increasingly expensive) search of www.sun.com, > docs.sun.com and access1.sun.com hasn't yielded anything that comes > close to what I'd call a technical reference manual. There are two > options open, as far as I can see: open up my Sun, look at all the stuff > inside, get its part no. and get the info for it (if it's available), > or, ask someone at NetBSD.org how they did it. > Option 2 is somewhat unsatisfying, since they must have got their info > from somewhere... I think you'll find that they got it by opening up their Suns, looking at all the stuff in side, getting its part no., and getting the info for it. - mark -------------------------------------------------------------------- I tried an internal modem, newton@atdot.dotat.org but it hurt when I walked. Mark Newton ----- Voice: +61-4-1620-2223 ------------- Fax: +61-8-82231777 ----- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-sparc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-sparc Wed Jul 7 10:24:54 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-sparc@freebsd.org Received: from dsinw.com (dsinw.com [207.149.40.5]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0F54814CDE for ; Wed, 7 Jul 1999 10:24:51 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from hamellr@dsinw.com) Received: (from hamellr@localhost) by dsinw.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) id KAA10378; Wed, 7 Jul 1999 10:21:15 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 7 Jul 1999 10:21:14 -0700 (PDT) From: rick hamell To: Mark Newton Cc: Gerald Heinig , paipai@tin.it, freebsd-sparc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Read this... In-Reply-To: <199907070447.OAA74556@atdot.dotat.org> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-sparc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > > So far, an intensive (and increasingly expensive) search of www.sun.com, > > docs.sun.com and access1.sun.com hasn't yielded anything that comes > > close to what I'd call a technical reference manual. There are two > > options open, as far as I can see: open up my Sun, look at all the stuff > > inside, get its part no. and get the info for it (if it's available), > > or, ask someone at NetBSD.org how they did it. > > Option 2 is somewhat unsatisfying, since they must have got their info > > from somewhere... When I first got my IPX machine I called Sun up and asked about any kind of manuals for it. They had a $75 'hardware' book available for it. Does anybody know what's really in this book? Rick To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-sparc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-sparc Wed Jul 7 17: 1:29 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-sparc@freebsd.org Received: from xylan.com (postal.xylan.com [208.8.0.248]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 40AAA15508 for ; Wed, 7 Jul 1999 17:01:17 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from wes@softweyr.com) Received: from mailhub.xylan.com by xylan.com (8.8.7/SMI-SVR4 (xylan-mgw 2.2 [OUT])) id QAA26985; Wed, 7 Jul 1999 16:57:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: from omni.xylan.com by mailhub.xylan.com (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4 (mailhub 2.1 [HUB])) id QAA05790; Wed, 7 Jul 1999 16:57:06 -0700 Received: from softweyr.com (dyn2.utah.xylan.com) by omni.xylan.com (4.1/SMI-4.1 (xylan engr [SPOOL])) id AA15936; Wed, 7 Jul 99 16:57:03 PDT Message-Id: <3783BCA5.5DAC485B@softweyr.com> Date: Wed, 07 Jul 1999 14:46:29 -0600 From: Wes Peters Organization: Softweyr LLC X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (X11; U; FreeBSD 3.1-RELEASE i386) X-Accept-Language: en Mime-Version: 1.0 To: Mark Newton Cc: Gerald Heinig , paipai@tin.it, freebsd-sparc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Read this... References: <199907070447.OAA74556@atdot.dotat.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-sparc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Mark Newton wrote: > > Gerald Heinig wrote: > > > So far, an intensive (and increasingly expensive) search of www.sun.com, > > docs.sun.com and access1.sun.com hasn't yielded anything that comes > > close to what I'd call a technical reference manual. There are two > > options open, as far as I can see: open up my Sun, look at all the stuff > > inside, get its part no. and get the info for it (if it's available), > > or, ask someone at NetBSD.org how they did it. > > Option 2 is somewhat unsatisfying, since they must have got their info > > from somewhere... > > I think you'll find that they got it by opening up their Suns, looking > at all the stuff in side, getting its part no., and getting the info for it. What, you guys don't consider schematics to be documentation? Sheesh, you should try working as an embedded programmer, using ASICs made by your own company where the only existing documentation on ANYTHING is the VHDL source... Wimps. ;^) -- "Where am I, and what am I doing in this handbasket?" Wes Peters Softweyr LLC http://softweyr.com/ wes@softweyr.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-sparc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-sparc Thu Jul 8 12:55:54 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-sparc@freebsd.org Received: from mail.rwth-aachen.de (mail.RWTH-Aachen.DE [137.226.144.9]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 34A1A14F3D for ; Thu, 8 Jul 1999 12:55:45 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from heinig@hdz-ima.rwth-aachen.de) Received: from postfix.hdz-ima.rwth-aachen.de by mail.rwth-aachen.de (PMDF V5.1-12 #D3869) with ESMTP id <01JDC59ZRTJK0007UG@mail.rwth-aachen.de> for freebsd-sparc@freebsd.org; Thu, 8 Jul 1999 21:56:22 +0200 Received: from aphrodite.hdz-ima.rwth-aachen.de [137.226.126.8] by postfix.hdz-ima.rwth-aachen.de with esmtp (Exim 2.05 #1 (Debian)) id 112KGk-0007sH-00; Thu, 08 Jul 1999 21:55:42 +0200 Received: from hdz-ima.rwth-aachen.de (s4m012.dialup.RWTH-Aachen.DE [137.226.8.12]) by aphrodite.hdz-ima.rwth-aachen.de (8.9.3/8.9.0) with ESMTP id VAA19034; Thu, 08 Jul 1999 21:55:41 +0200 (MET DST) Date: Thu, 08 Jul 1999 21:55:32 +0200 From: Gerald Heinig Subject: Re: Read this... To: Wes Peters Cc: freebsd-sparc@FreeBSD.ORG Message-id: <37850234.AEEF1B11@hdz-ima.rwth-aachen.de> Organization: Institute of Computer Science in Mechanical Engineering MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.6 [en] (X11; I; FreeBSD 3.1-RELEASE i386) Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Accept-Language: en References: <199907070447.OAA74556@atdot.dotat.org> <3783BCA5.5DAC485B@softweyr.com> Sender: owner-freebsd-sparc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Wes Peters wrote: > Mark Newton wrote: > > > > Gerald Heinig wrote: > > > > > So far, an intensive (and increasingly expensive) search of www.sun.com, > > > docs.sun.com and access1.sun.com hasn't yielded anything that comes > > > close to what I'd call a technical reference manual. There are two > > > options open, as far as I can see: open up my Sun, look at all the stuff > > > inside, get its part no. and get the info for it (if it's available), > > > or, ask someone at NetBSD.org how they did it. > > > Option 2 is somewhat unsatisfying, since they must have got their info > > > from somewhere... > > > > I think you'll find that they got it by opening up their Suns, looking > > at all the stuff in side, getting its part no., and getting the info for it. > > What, you guys don't consider schematics to be documentation? Sheesh, > you should try working as an embedded programmer, using ASICs made by > your own company where the only existing documentation on ANYTHING is > the VHDL source... > > Wimps. ;^) Hey, I'm a lazy bum and I'm *proud* of it!! :-) :-) Gerald To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-sparc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-sparc Fri Jul 9 8:20:57 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-sparc@freebsd.org Received: from mail.rwth-aachen.de (mail.RWTH-Aachen.DE [137.226.144.9]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 223B814EA5 for ; Fri, 9 Jul 1999 08:20:44 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from heinig@hdz-ima.rwth-aachen.de) Received: from postfix.hdz-ima.rwth-aachen.de by mail.rwth-aachen.de (PMDF V5.1-12 #D3869) with ESMTP id <01JDD9YDWM4G00008L@mail.rwth-aachen.de> for freebsd-sparc@freebsd.org; Fri, 9 Jul 1999 17:21:22 +0200 Received: from aphrodite.hdz-ima.rwth-aachen.de [137.226.126.8] by postfix.hdz-ima.rwth-aachen.de with esmtp (Exim 2.05 #1 (Debian)) id 112cS9-00018Y-00; Fri, 09 Jul 1999 17:20:41 +0200 Received: from hdz-ima.rwth-aachen.de (s4m157.dialup.RWTH-Aachen.DE [137.226.8.157]) by aphrodite.hdz-ima.rwth-aachen.de (8.9.3/8.9.0) with ESMTP id RAA19404 for ; Fri, 09 Jul 1999 17:20:40 +0200 (MET DST) Date: Fri, 09 Jul 1999 17:20:32 +0200 From: Gerald Heinig Subject: SBus and Openboot info To: freebsd-sparc@freebsd.org Message-id: <3786133F.20BB1395@hdz-ima.rwth-aachen.de> Organization: Institute of Computer Science in Mechanical Engineering MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.6 [en] (X11; I; FreeBSD 3.1-RELEASE i386) Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Accept-Language: en Sender: owner-freebsd-sparc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi all, For those of you who are interested in the SBus machines I've found out that Sbus and the Prom (Openboot I believe they call it) are IEEE and ANSI standards. Manuals are available from http://standards.ieee.org and seem to cost around 104$ or so. The standard numbers are 1275 for the Boot ROM and 1496 for the SBus spec. Please correct me if any of this is wrong. Gerald To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-sparc" in the body of the message