From owner-freebsd-doc Sun Aug 13 2:20: 9 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3073A37B656 for ; Sun, 13 Aug 2000 02:20:05 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) id CAA06560; Sun, 13 Aug 2000 02:20:04 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Date: Sun, 13 Aug 2000 02:20:04 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <200008130920.CAA06560@freefall.freebsd.org> To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Cc: From: Johan Karlsson Subject: Re: kern/17774: stray irq7 Reply-To: Johan Karlsson Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org The following reply was made to PR kern/17774; it has been noted by GNATS. From: Johan Karlsson To: Bruce Evans Cc: freebsd-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: kern/17774: stray irq7 Date: Sun, 13 Aug 2000 11:11:55 +0200 At Sun, 13 Aug 2000 08:55:04 +1000, Bruce Evans wrote: > On Fri, 11 Aug 2000, Johan Karlsson wrote: > > > I suggest the following is added to the faq > > The fwa? :-). ??? > > > ============= > > Q: What does 'stray irq' mean? > > A: Stray irq are interupts from some hardware that do not have > > a driver assigned to it. J Wunsch writes in a response to a PR > > No, they are mostly from hardware that removes its interrupt request > in the middle of the interrupt request acknowledge cycle. FreeBSD's > interrupt handling (toggling the PIC masks at a critical time) > probably amplifies this problem. Assigning a driver can "fix" the > problem by breaking detection of it. The correct fix is to detect > the stray interrupts caused by interrupt timing glitches and decide > what to do about them (whatever is done, it shouldn't involve > printing a faq magnet). Ok Should the print of this text be removed from kernel then? Is the following suggestion for the FAQ better or should we not have an FAQ entry at all for this (which I think we should since the question pops up)? ============ Q: What does 'stray irq' mean? A: Stray IRQs are indications of hardware IRQ glitches, mostly from hardware that removes its interrupt request in the middle of the interrupt request acknowledge cycle. J Wunsch writes in a response to a PR "Stray IRQs are a known phenomenon. Obviously (if you think about it :), there's nothing the kernel could do about it. Unless you have misconfigured your kernel so there's no driver assigned to a device that actually issues IRQs, they are a sign of flakey hardware, often caused by glitches on an IRQ line." You have three choices: 1) Live with the warnings 2) Get a driver for the hardware into your kernel 3) Remove the hardware that generates the interrupts ============= To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sun Aug 13 6: 0: 4 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 276C637B7F9 for ; Sun, 13 Aug 2000 06:00:02 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) id GAA30420; Sun, 13 Aug 2000 06:00:02 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Date: Sun, 13 Aug 2000 06:00:02 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <200008131300.GAA30420@freefall.freebsd.org> To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Cc: From: Bruce Evans Subject: Re: kern/17774: stray irq7 Reply-To: Bruce Evans Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org The following reply was made to PR kern/17774; it has been noted by GNATS. From: Bruce Evans To: Johan Karlsson Cc: freebsd-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: kern/17774: stray irq7 Date: Sun, 13 Aug 2000 22:52:53 +1000 (EST) On Sun, 13 Aug 2000, Johan Karlsson wrote: > At Sun, 13 Aug 2000 08:55:04 +1000, Bruce Evans wrote: > > On Fri, 11 Aug 2000, Johan Karlsson wrote: > > > > > I suggest the following is added to the faq > > > > The fwa? :-). > > ??? Frequently Wrong Answers. > > problem by breaking detection of it. The correct fix is to detect > > the stray interrupts caused by interrupt timing glitches and decide > > what to do about them (whatever is done, it shouldn't involve > > printing a faq magnet). > > Ok > > Should the print of this text be removed from kernel then? Either that or turned into a KASSERT panic or something that annoys developers enough to fix the problem. (The irq7 and irq15 handlers need extra code which is hard to fit into the macros used to generate the code. This may be easier when the code is rewritten for SMPng.) > Is the following suggestion for the FAQ better or should we not > have an FAQ entry at all for this (which I think we should since > the question pops up)? > > ============ > Q: What does 'stray irq' mean? > A: Stray IRQs are indications of hardware IRQ glitches, mostly > from hardware that removes its interrupt request in the middle > of the interrupt request acknowledge cycle. > J Wunsch writes in a response to a PR > "Stray IRQs are a known phenomenon. Obviously (if you think about it :), > there's nothing the kernel could do about it. Unless you have > misconfigured your kernel so there's no driver assigned to a device > that actually issues IRQs, they are a sign of flakey hardware, often > caused by glitches on an IRQ line." > > You have three choices: > 1) Live with the warnings > 2) Get a driver for the hardware into your kernel > 3) Remove the hardware that generates the interrupts > ============= This is very confusing, since it gives conflicting answers. The only reasonable choices are: 1) Live with the warnings. All except the first 5 per irq are suppressed anyway. 2) Break the warnings by changing 5 to 0 in isa_strayintr() so that all the warnings are suppressed. 3) Break the warnings by installing parallel port hardware that uses irq 7 and the ppp driver for it (this happens on most systems), and install an ide drive or other hardware that uses irq 15 and a suitable driver for it. Stray irqs on irqs other than irq7 and irq15 cause very frequently asked questions since they "can't happen". Bruce To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sun Aug 13 6:44:29 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mout1.silyn-tek.de (mout1.silyn-tek.de [194.25.165.69]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D015E37B840; Sun, 13 Aug 2000 06:44:22 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from alex@big.endian.de) Received: from [192.168.32.34] (helo=mx2.silyn-tek.de) by mout1.silyn-tek.de with esmtp (Exim 3.13 #1) id 13Ny3m-0001ZO-00; Sun, 13 Aug 2000 15:44:18 +0200 Received: from p3ee1c392.dip0.t-ipconnect.de ([62.225.195.146] helo=neutron.cichlids.com) by mx2.silyn-tek.de with esmtp (Exim 3.13 #1) id 13Ny3j-00088w-00; Sun, 13 Aug 2000 15:44:15 +0200 Received: from cichlids.cichlids.com (cichlids.cichlids.com [192.168.0.10]) by neutron.cichlids.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 758CBAB91; Sun, 13 Aug 2000 15:44:51 +0200 (CEST) Received: by cichlids.cichlids.com (Postfix, from userid 1001) id EA88714BE0; Sun, 13 Aug 2000 15:44:19 +0200 (CEST) Date: Sun, 13 Aug 2000 15:44:19 +0200 To: Wolfram Schneider Cc: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG, Travis Gummels , freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Subject: Re: [gummels@alf.dec.com: FreeBSD Homepage] Message-ID: <20000813154419.D12592@cichlids.cichlids.com> References: <20000808210547.B934@paula.panke.de.freebsd.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0.1i In-Reply-To: <20000808210547.B934@paula.panke.de.freebsd.org>; from wosch@panke.de.freebsd.org on Tue, Aug 08, 2000 at 09:05:47PM +0200 X-PGP-Fingerprint: 44 28 CA 4C 46 5B D3 A8 A8 E3 BA F3 4E 60 7D 7F X-PGP-at: finger alex@big.endian.de X-Verwirrung: Dieser Header dient der allgemeinen Verwirrung. From: alex@big.endian.de (Alexander Langer) Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Thus spake Wolfram Schneider (wosch@panke.de.freebsd.org): > ----- Forwarded message from Travis Gummels ----- > From: Travis Gummels > To: wosch@FreeBSD.org > Subject: FreeBSD Homepage > > Thought I might make a suggestion if thats ok. First paragraph under What is FreeBSD?, might want to change DEC Alpha to > DEC/Compaq Alpha or something like that. Hmm. On the FreeBSD-Alpha list, we decided to keep DEC Alpha and not add Compaq when it was added, because the real vendor is DEC and not Compaq, even though Compaq bought DEC :) Alex -- cat: /home/alex/.sig: No such file or directory To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sun Aug 13 7:18:51 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mout1.silyn-tek.de (mout1.silyn-tek.de [194.25.165.69]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9D4F937B9D1 for ; Sun, 13 Aug 2000 07:18:45 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from alex@big.endian.de) Received: from [192.168.32.33] (helo=mx1.silyn-tek.de) by mout1.silyn-tek.de with esmtp (Exim 3.13 #1) id 13Nyb5-0001eF-00; Sun, 13 Aug 2000 16:18:43 +0200 Received: from p3ee1c392.dip0.t-ipconnect.de ([62.225.195.146] helo=neutron.cichlids.com) by mx1.silyn-tek.de with esmtp (Exim 3.13 #1) id 13Nyb3-0005xW-00; Sun, 13 Aug 2000 16:18:42 +0200 Received: from cichlids.cichlids.com (cichlids.cichlids.com [192.168.0.10]) by neutron.cichlids.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id BBAAFAB91; Sun, 13 Aug 2000 16:19:16 +0200 (CEST) Received: by cichlids.cichlids.com (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 667B314BE0; Sun, 13 Aug 2000 16:18:40 +0200 (CEST) Date: Sun, 13 Aug 2000 16:18:40 +0200 To: "Eric D. Futch" Cc: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Missing Makefile? Message-ID: <20000813161840.E12592@cichlids.cichlids.com> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0.1i In-Reply-To: ; from efutch@nyct.net on Thu, Aug 10, 2000 at 11:51:26AM -0400 X-PGP-Fingerprint: 44 28 CA 4C 46 5B D3 A8 A8 E3 BA F3 4E 60 7D 7F X-PGP-at: finger alex@big.endian.de X-Verwirrung: Dieser Header dient der allgemeinen Verwirrung. From: alex@big.endian.de (Alexander Langer) Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Thus spake Eric D. Futch (efutch@nyct.net): > There seems to be no Makefile in doc/de_DE.ISO_8859-1/ even though the > de_DE.ISO_8859-1 is included in the doc/Makefile. Is this > intentional? It breaks the doc build and release, at least here on my > machine. Sorry, I forgot to cvs add it :) Fixed. Alex -- cat: /home/alex/.sig: No such file or directory To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sun Aug 13 10:18:12 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from scientia.demon.co.uk (scientia.demon.co.uk [212.228.14.13]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 19A1437B57C; Sun, 13 Aug 2000 10:18:07 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ben@scientia.demon.co.uk) Received: from strontium.scientia.demon.co.uk ([192.168.91.36] ident=exim) by scientia.demon.co.uk with esmtp (Exim 3.15 #1) id 13O0gN-000NIy-00; Sun, 13 Aug 2000 17:32:19 +0100 Received: (from ben) by strontium.scientia.demon.co.uk (Exim 3.15 #1) id 13O0gN-0001fA-00; Sun, 13 Aug 2000 17:32:19 +0100 Date: Sun, 13 Aug 2000 17:32:19 +0100 From: Ben Smithurst To: Rahul Siddharthan Cc: doc@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: hacker v/s cracker Message-ID: <20000813173219.X48327@strontium.scientia.demon.co.uk> References: <20000813201719.A4355@physics.iisc.ernet.in> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2i In-Reply-To: <20000813201719.A4355@physics.iisc.ernet.in> Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org [ moved -chat => -doc for this bit of the thread ] Rahul Siddharthan wrote: > What is the freebsd policy on using the word "hacker"? Most old world > "hackers" seem to prefer the term "cracker" for people who break > into systems. FreeBSD has a -hackers list which is obviously not > for vandals, but the security section of the handbook also refers to > people who break in as "hackers". Is that appropriate? It certainly isn't. I'll change that to "attackers" unless anyone objects, since that's used a lot elsewhere in the security section and in the security(7) man page. "Intruder" is also user a lot, but I think "attacker" sounds more appropriate. -- Ben Smithurst / ben@FreeBSD.org / PGP: 0x99392F7D FreeBSD Documentation Project / To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sun Aug 13 14:24:58 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk [193.237.89.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9B17937B694 for ; Sun, 13 Aug 2000 14:24:53 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nik@nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk) Received: (from nik@localhost) by nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id VAA04068; Sun, 13 Aug 2000 21:02:50 GMT (envelope-from nik) Date: Sun, 13 Aug 2000 21:02:50 +0000 From: Nik Clayton To: Vince Valenti Cc: doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: your mail Message-ID: <20000813210250.A4052@kilt.nothing-going-on.org> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2i In-Reply-To: ; from vince@bendnet.com on Fri, Aug 11, 2000 at 09:55:57PM -0700 Organization: FreeBSD Project Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Fri, Aug 11, 2000 at 09:55:57PM -0700, Vince Valenti wrote: > In section 18.4 of the freebsd handbook (Using make world), you guys > should talk about using mergemaster(8) to update the system's > configuration files. Indeed we should. So far what's been holding this back has been no one submitting replacement text (or better still, diffs) to rewrite this section of the Handbook. How about it? N -- Internet connection, $19.95 a month. Computer, $799.95. Modem, $149.95. Telephone line, $24.95 a month. Software, free. USENET transmission, hundreds if not thousands of dollars. Thinking before posting, priceless. Somethings in life you can't buy. For everything else, there's MasterCard. -- Graham Reed, in the Scary Devil Monastery To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sun Aug 13 14:25:34 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk [193.237.89.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6297137B748; Sun, 13 Aug 2000 14:25:28 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nik@nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk) Received: (from nik@localhost) by nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id VAA04098; Sun, 13 Aug 2000 21:12:22 GMT (envelope-from nik) Date: Sun, 13 Aug 2000 21:12:22 +0000 From: Nik Clayton To: Mark Ovens Cc: "David O'Brien" , doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Porters handbook missing for docs webpage Message-ID: <20000813211222.D4052@kilt.nothing-going-on.org> References: <20000809035116.A986@dragon.nuxi.com> <20000809123016.A251@parish> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2i In-Reply-To: <20000809123016.A251@parish>; from marko@freebsd.org on Wed, Aug 09, 2000 at 12:30:16PM +0100 Organization: FreeBSD Project Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Wed, Aug 09, 2000 at 12:30:16PM +0100, Mark Ovens wrote: > My feeling is that the Porters & Developers Handbooks, and the FDP & > PPP Primers should be classified as "books" and should appear as such > the generated docs and as such should have a "top-level" link from > http://www.freebsd.org/docs.html rather than from the tutorials > section. I knew I'd forgotten something in my other messages. My preferred approach to this is to set up docs.freebsd.org, probably modeled along very similar lines to docs.sun.com. We can then set up the links within docs.freebsd.org along much more logical and simple lines than the mess of links, redirects, and Makefile kludges that sit in the current web site. This is probably simpler than trying to iteratively improve the situation in www/. Volunteers wanted. N -- Internet connection, $19.95 a month. Computer, $799.95. Modem, $149.95. Telephone line, $24.95 a month. Software, free. USENET transmission, hundreds if not thousands of dollars. Thinking before posting, priceless. Somethings in life you can't buy. For everything else, there's MasterCard. -- Graham Reed, in the Scary Devil Monastery To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sun Aug 13 14:25:54 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk [193.237.89.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DDB3537B73F; Sun, 13 Aug 2000 14:25:48 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nik@nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk) Received: (from nik@localhost) by nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id VAA04087; Sun, 13 Aug 2000 21:09:42 GMT (envelope-from nik) Date: Sun, 13 Aug 2000 21:09:42 +0000 From: Nik Clayton To: Neil Blakey-Milner Cc: Mark Ovens , doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Re-structuring of the docs Message-ID: <20000813210942.C4052@kilt.nothing-going-on.org> References: <20000809135441.D251@parish> <20000809201305.A30032@mithrandr.moria.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2i In-Reply-To: <20000809201305.A30032@mithrandr.moria.org>; from nbm@mithrandr.moria.org on Wed, Aug 09, 2000 at 08:13:05PM +0200 Organization: FreeBSD Project Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Wed, Aug 09, 2000 at 08:13:05PM +0200, Neil Blakey-Milner wrote: > > The FDP Primer and the PPP Primer are under books/ in the cvs tree yet > > are installed under tutorials. Looking at both docs they are > > sufficiently large and well structured enough to be called handbooks > > in their own right, like the Porters Handbook. > > "Primers" are things which cover a specific area at depth. "Handbooks" > cover largish areas without much depth. Contra-example: porters-handbook. IMHO, Mark's right on this. However, directory renames are relatively expensive operations in CVS. Both the PPP and FDP primer's started life as much smaller documents, and I certainly didn't expect the FDP primer to become as large as it has done. The location in the website is historical accident, and the resistance to moving them is mostly because doubtless there are links to them out there, and we don't want to invalidate those links. There are procedures we can do to mitigate this (for example, by checking the error logs for pages after we move them, and pro-actively contacting the people that host the pages that link to the moved files) but that's effort that I haven't got the time to expend. If someone's volunteering to do this sort of thing then more power to them. The other alternative is just to break some of the referring sites, and tolerating the (assumed) additional messages to -questions or -doc. I'm agnostic on this. Broken links are a part of the web. N -- Internet connection, $19.95 a month. Computer, $799.95. Modem, $149.95. Telephone line, $24.95 a month. Software, free. USENET transmission, hundreds if not thousands of dollars. Thinking before posting, priceless. Somethings in life you can't buy. For everything else, there's MasterCard. -- Graham Reed, in the Scary Devil Monastery To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sun Aug 13 14:26:15 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk [193.237.89.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D3C1F37B73F; Sun, 13 Aug 2000 14:26:05 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nik@nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk) Received: (from nik@localhost) by nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id VAA04076; Sun, 13 Aug 2000 21:04:03 GMT (envelope-from nik) Date: Sun, 13 Aug 2000 21:04:03 +0000 From: Nik Clayton To: Josef Karthauser Cc: Nik Clayton , Mark Ovens , freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: docs/20532: Broken link on the web page. Message-ID: <20000813210403.B4052@kilt.nothing-going-on.org> References: <200008111140.EAA60270@freefall.freebsd.org> <20000811132225.E254@parish> <20000811123227.A995@kilt.nothing-going-on.org> <20000811140234.E6854@pavilion.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2i In-Reply-To: <20000811140234.E6854@pavilion.net>; from joe@pavilion.net on Fri, Aug 11, 2000 at 02:02:34PM +0100 Organization: FreeBSD Project Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Fri, Aug 11, 2000 at 02:02:34PM +0100, Josef Karthauser wrote: > You argued to me that using Apache specific functionality was a mistake > because not all mirrors are running apache. Surely these redirects > shouldn't exist, and the internal links in the documentation should > be changed. I agree. > In addition a coupld of, sorry these links have changed., > pages should be introduced. I agree here to. The problem is introducing this in to the www build process. Diffs gratefully accepted. N -- Internet connection, $19.95 a month. Computer, $799.95. Modem, $149.95. Telephone line, $24.95 a month. Software, free. USENET transmission, hundreds if not thousands of dollars. Thinking before posting, priceless. Somethings in life you can't buy. For everything else, there's MasterCard. -- Graham Reed, in the Scary Devil Monastery To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sun Aug 13 15:52:58 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from kenny.blue-box.net (kenny.blue-box.net [204.245.221.97]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3FAC237B745; Sun, 13 Aug 2000 15:52:55 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from vince@bendnet.com) Received: from kenny.blue-box.net (kenny.blue-box.net [204.245.221.97]) by kenny.blue-box.net (8.11.0/8.11.0/BBMX) with ESMTP id e7DMqrH24616; Sun, 13 Aug 2000 15:52:53 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sun, 13 Aug 2000 15:52:52 -0700 (PDT) From: Vince Valenti X-Sender: vince@kenny.blue-box.net To: Nik Clayton Cc: doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: your mail In-Reply-To: <20000813210250.A4052@kilt.nothing-going-on.org> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Sun, 13 Aug 2000, Nik Clayton wrote: > On Fri, Aug 11, 2000 at 09:55:57PM -0700, Vince Valenti wrote: > > In section 18.4 of the freebsd handbook (Using make world), you guys > > should talk about using mergemaster(8) to update the system's > > configuration files. > > Indeed we should. So far what's been holding this back has been no > one submitting replacement text (or better still, diffs) to rewrite > this section of the Handbook. How about it? Okay... Should I just submit a diff to the html file? -- Vince Valenti Network Services BendNet To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sun Aug 13 16:29: 5 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from luna.osd.bsdi.com (luna.geekhouse.net [64.81.6.50]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3F1CA37B74B; Sun, 13 Aug 2000 16:29:02 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jim@luna.osd.bsdi.com) Received: by luna.osd.bsdi.com (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 9E4AC31BF; Sun, 13 Aug 2000 16:28:59 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sun, 13 Aug 2000 16:28:59 -0700 From: Jim Mock To: Vince Valenti Cc: Nik Clayton , doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: your mail Message-ID: <20000813162858.A516@luna.osd.bsdi.com> Reply-To: jim@jmock.com References: <20000813210250.A4052@kilt.nothing-going-on.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: ; from vince@bendnet.com on Sun, Aug 13, 2000 at 03:52:52PM -0700 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Sun, 13 Aug 2000 at 15:52:52 -0700, Vince Valenti wrote: > On Sun, 13 Aug 2000, Nik Clayton wrote: > > On Fri, Aug 11, 2000 at 09:55:57PM -0700, Vince Valenti wrote: > > > In section 18.4 of the freebsd handbook (Using make world), you > > > guys should talk about using mergemaster(8) to update the system's > > > configuration files. > > > > Indeed we should. So far what's been holding this back has been no > > one submitting replacement text (or better still, diffs) to rewrite > > this section of the Handbook. How about it? > > Okay... Should I just submit a diff to the html file? A diff to the DocBook file (cutting-edge/chapter.sgml) would be preferred, however that doesn't mean we won't accept other formats (HTML diffs, plain text, etc.), it just means more work for us when we commit it. At any rate, if you send me the update, I'll commit it after I read through it (and do/fix any necessary markup). - jim -- jim mock work: jim@osd.bsdi.com | jim@FreeBSD.org http://soupnazi.org/ BSDi Open Source Div | http://bsdi.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sun Aug 13 16:31:14 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from luna.osd.bsdi.com (luna.geekhouse.net [64.81.6.50]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 28DE137B798; Sun, 13 Aug 2000 16:31:12 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jim@luna.osd.bsdi.com) Received: by luna.osd.bsdi.com (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 752BA31BF; Sun, 13 Aug 2000 16:31:11 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sun, 13 Aug 2000 16:31:11 -0700 From: Jim Mock To: Nik Clayton Cc: Mark Ovens , David O'Brien , doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Porters handbook missing for docs webpage Message-ID: <20000813163111.B516@luna.osd.bsdi.com> Reply-To: jim@FreeBSD.org References: <20000809035116.A986@dragon.nuxi.com> <20000809123016.A251@parish> <20000813211222.D4052@kilt.nothing-going-on.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <20000813211222.D4052@kilt.nothing-going-on.org>; from nik@FreeBSD.ORG on Sun, Aug 13, 2000 at 09:12:22PM +0000 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Sun, 13 Aug 2000 at 21:12:22 +0000, Nik Clayton wrote: > On Wed, Aug 09, 2000 at 12:30:16PM +0100, Mark Ovens wrote: > > My feeling is that the Porters & Developers Handbooks, and the FDP > > & PPP Primers should be classified as "books" and should appear as > > such the generated docs and as such should have a "top-level" link > > from http://www.freebsd.org/docs.html rather than from the tutorials > > section. > > I knew I'd forgotten something in my other messages. > > My preferred approach to this is to set up docs.freebsd.org, probably > modeled along very similar lines to docs.sun.com. We can then set up > the links within docs.freebsd.org along much more logical and simple > lines than the mess of links, redirects, and Makefile kludges that > sit in the current web site. Woo hoo! :-) > This is probably simpler than trying to iteratively improve the > situation in www/. > > Volunteers wanted. What do you have in mind? - jim -- jim mock work: jim@osd.bsdi.com | jim@FreeBSD.org http://soupnazi.org/ BSDi Open Source Div | http://bsdi.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sun Aug 13 17: 1:51 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from smart.visp-europe.psi.com (smart.visp-europe.psi.com [212.222.105.5]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4802237B7E4; Sun, 13 Aug 2000 17:01:48 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jnickelsen@acm.org) Received: from ip186.berlin70.pub-ip.de.psi.net ([154.15.70.186] helo=goting.jn.berlin.snafu.de) by smart.visp-europe.psi.com with esmtp (Exim 3.14 #1) id 13O7hC-0007hD-00; Mon, 14 Aug 2000 02:01:38 +0200 Received: by goting.jn.berlin.snafu.de (Postfix, from userid 100) id B7DFB227C; Mon, 14 Aug 2000 02:01:18 +0200 (CEST) To: Ben Smithurst Cc: Rahul Siddharthan , doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: hacker v/s cracker References: <20000813201719.A4355@physics.iisc.ernet.in> <20000813173219.X48327@strontium.scientia.demon.co.uk> From: Juergen Nickelsen Date: 14 Aug 2000 02:01:17 +0200 In-Reply-To: Ben Smithurst's message of "Sun, 13 Aug 2000 17:32:19 +0100" Message-ID: Lines: 31 X-Mailer: Gnus v5.6.45/XEmacs 21.1 - "Canyonlands" Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Ben Smithurst writes: > Rahul Siddharthan wrote: > > > What is the freebsd policy on using the word "hacker"? Most old world > > "hackers" seem to prefer the term "cracker" for people who break > > into systems. FreeBSD has a -hackers list which is obviously not > > for vandals, but the security section of the handbook also refers to > > people who break in as "hackers". Is that appropriate? > > It certainly isn't. I'll change that to "attackers" unless anyone > objects, since that's used a lot elsewhere in the security section and > in the security(7) man page. "Intruder" is also user a lot, but I think > "attacker" sounds more appropriate. Personally I try to keep using the word "hacker" in the Jargon File sense. This is in my context (I am a networking consultant in a company in Germany) sometimes difficult, as "hacker" is there often used for the attacker or intruder, and I don't always want to burden the discussion by beginning with a proper definition of the word "hacker" and why I want to use it this way and not the other. On the other hand, in documents I write I always use the words "attacker" or "intruder" (or their German equivalents, respectively) because this avoids any ambiguity and fits the level of style of these documents better. [Please CC me as long as necessary -- I don't read freebsd-doc.] -- Juergen Nickelsen To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sun Aug 13 18:12: 7 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from scientia.demon.co.uk (scientia.demon.co.uk [212.228.14.13]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 825D837B830; Sun, 13 Aug 2000 18:11:50 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ben@scientia.demon.co.uk) Received: from strontium.scientia.demon.co.uk ([192.168.91.36] ident=exim) by scientia.demon.co.uk with esmtp (Exim 3.15 #1) id 13O860-000OEZ-00; Mon, 14 Aug 2000 01:27:16 +0100 Received: (from ben) by strontium.scientia.demon.co.uk (Exim 3.15 #1) id 13O85z-000K14-00; Mon, 14 Aug 2000 01:27:15 +0100 Date: Mon, 14 Aug 2000 01:27:15 +0100 From: Ben Smithurst To: Vince Valenti Cc: Nik Clayton , doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: your mail Message-ID: <20000814012715.A48327@strontium.scientia.demon.co.uk> References: <20000813210250.A4052@kilt.nothing-going-on.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2i In-Reply-To: Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Vince Valenti wrote: > Okay... Should I just submit a diff to the html file? No, and I bet you just knew it wouldn't be as simple as that... :-) Please cvsup the doc-all collection and submit a diff to the SGML source using send-pr. You'll need to install the textproc/docproj port to test your changes. You might also like to read the FDP primer, it should be somewhere on the FreeBSD website. This will explain things like the indentation style we like, and some things which might actually be important. A diff to HTML is slightly better than no diff at all, but SGML diffs are likely to get your changes committed much sooner. -- Ben Smithurst / ben@FreeBSD.org / PGP: 0x99392F7D FreeBSD Documentation Project / To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sun Aug 13 22:11:48 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from hakodate.cbn.net.id (hakodate.cbn.net.id [202.158.3.15]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 1F64C37B5B9 for ; Sun, 13 Aug 2000 22:11:40 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from marulam@csmcom.com) Received: (qmail 16280 invoked from network); 14 Aug 2000 12:14:36 +0700 Received: from unknown (HELO csmcom.com) (202.158.32.243) by hakodate.cbn.net.id with SMTP; 14 Aug 2000 12:14:36 +0700 Received: from marulam [172.19.32.10] by csmcom.com [127.0.0.1] with SMTP (MDaemon.v3.1.1.R) for ; Mon, 14 Aug 2000 12:10:16 +0700 Message-ID: <000701c005a5$89941560$0a2013ac@marulam.csmcom.com> From: "Marulam Eddy S. Sinaga" To: Subject: How can i extract the iso image Date: Mon, 14 Aug 2000 11:10:06 +0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0004_01C005E0.33876BA0" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.1 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 X-MDRcpt-To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org X-MDRemoteIP: 172.19.32.10 X-Return-Path: marulam@csmcom.com X-MDaemon-Deliver-To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0004_01C005E0.33876BA0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Dear cute OS, I'm newbie from this Operation System. But I love to use it couse = it makes my mine be secure. And I've download it from your nice box, but = i'm confusing to extract it. 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------=_NextPart_000_0004_01C005E0.33876BA0-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Mon Aug 14 1: 0: 7 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3332237B5B0 for ; Mon, 14 Aug 2000 01:00:03 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) id BAA18924; Mon, 14 Aug 2000 01:00:03 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Date: Mon, 14 Aug 2000 01:00:03 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <200008140800.BAA18924@freefall.freebsd.org> To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Cc: From: Johan Karlsson Subject: Re: kern/17774: stray irq7 Reply-To: Johan Karlsson Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org The following reply was made to PR kern/17774; it has been noted by GNATS. From: Johan Karlsson To: Bruce Evans Cc: freebsd-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: kern/17774: stray irq7 Date: Mon, 14 Aug 2000 09:58:19 +0200 At Sun, 13 Aug 2000 22:52:53 +1000, Bruce Evans wrote: > Frequently Wrong Answers. That is why I thought it was the correct answer :-) > > Should the print of this text be removed from kernel then? > = > Either that or turned into a KASSERT panic or something that annoys > developers enough to fix the problem. (The irq7 and irq15 handlers > need extra code which is hard to fit into the macros used to generate > the code. This may be easier when the code is rewritten for SMPng.) If you think this should be done please go ahead and change it. In the mean time I think a FAQ entry should exists. -doc people, please check grammar and such since I'm not nativ :-) I have tried to merge Bruce's answer and any error is = probably mine. =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D Q: What does 'stray irq' mean? A: Stray IRQs are indications of hardware IRQ glitches, mostly = from hardware that removes its interrupt request in the middle = of the interrupt request acknowledge cycle. One has three alternatives how to deal with this: 1) Live with the warnings. All except the first 5 per irq = are suppressed anyway. 2) Break the warnings by changing 5 to 0 in isa_strayintr() = so that all the warnings are suppressed. 3) Break the warnings by installing parallel port hardware = that uses irq 7 and the ppp driver for it (this happens = on most systems), and install an ide drive or other = hardware that uses irq 15 and a suitable driver for it. =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D Thanks Johan K To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Mon Aug 14 3:20:18 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from ms.tokyo.jcom.ne.jp (ms.tokyo.jcom.ne.jp [210.234.123.18]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B01B137BA14; Mon, 14 Aug 2000 03:20:03 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from knu@idaemons.org) Received: from daemon.local.idaemons.org (203-165-77-17.sugnm1.kt.home.ne.jp [203.165.77.17]) by ms.tokyo.jcom.ne.jp (8.9.3/3.7W 04/27/00) with ESMTP id TAA08294; Mon, 14 Aug 2000 19:20:02 +0900 (JST) Received: by daemon.local.idaemons.org (8.9.3/3.7W) id TAA47163; Mon, 14 Aug 2000 19:19:30 +0900 (JST) Date: Mon, 14 Aug 2000 19:19:29 +0900 Message-ID: <861yzsxhzi.wl@localhost.local.idaemons.org> From: "Akinori -Aki- MUSHA" To: www@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-current@FreeBSD.org, cvs-committers@FreeBSD.org Subject: HEADS UP: our CVSweb has been updated User-Agent: Wanderlust/2.3.0 (Roam) EMIKO/1.13.12 (Euglena sociabilis) FLIM/1.13.2 (Kasanui) APEL/10.2 MULE XEmacs/21.1 (patch 11) (Carlsbad Caverns) (i386--freebsd) Organization: Associated I. Daemons X-PGP-Public-Key: finger knu@FreeBSD.org X-PGP-Fingerprint: 081D 099C 1705 861D 4B70 B04A 920B EFC7 9FD9 E1EE X-PGP-Comment: I changed my key on 2000-08-10 MIME-Version: 1.0 (generated by EMIKO 1.13.12 - "Euglena sociabilis") Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Dear FreeBSD WWW server administrators, Today I have updated our CVSweb to the new version that is based on the effort of Henner Zeller and other folks. I imported cvsweb.conf and cvsweb.conf-* files in the same directory as cvsweb.cgi is so we could maintain them as well as cvsweb.cgi. They are read only when there are no /usr/local/etc/cvsweb.conf, so please copy them to your local directory /usr/local/etc/ and configure them as they suit your local environment. (e.g. changing locations of repositories) Also, now that cvsweb.cgi requires perl5 which is assumed to exist by the path `/usr/bin/perl5' to run, 2.x-STABLE servers must have perl5 installed from ports and create a symlink by doing `ln -s /usr/local/bin/perl5 /usr/bin'. I am sorry to trouble you, but I hope this update would be successful. Regards, -- / /__ __ / ) ) ) ) / Akinori -Aki- MUSHA aka / (_ / ( (__( @ idaemons.org / FreeBSD.org "We're only at home when we're on the run, on the wing, on the fly" To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Mon Aug 14 6: 3: 9 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mail.wgate.com (mail.wgate.com [38.219.83.4]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9F09937BA18 for ; Mon, 14 Aug 2000 06:03:03 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dkalowsky@wgate.com) Received: from wgate.com (kalowsky-bsd.eng.tvol.net [10.32.2.105]) by mail.wgate.com with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2650.21) id QPF43XQG; Mon, 14 Aug 2000 09:03:00 -0400 Message-ID: <3997EE00.77988B82@wgate.com> Date: Mon, 14 Aug 2000 09:02:56 -0400 From: Dan Kalowsky Organization: Worldgate Communications X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.61 [en] (X11; I; FreeBSD 4.1-STABLE i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: doc@FreeBSD.org Subject: error in documentation Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org http://www.freebsd.org/FAQ/admin.html#AEN2735 minor typo in your dcumentation on the above URL. you have listed # sh MAKDEV snd0 shouldn't it be # sh MAKEDEV snd0 ?? -- Dan Kalowsky "Tonight I think I'll walk alone, Worldgate Communications, Trevose PA I'll find my soul as I go home." Software Engineer - TICS Group - Temptation To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Mon Aug 14 7:44:41 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from ekplx14.physik.uni-karlsruhe.de (ekplx14.physik.uni-karlsruhe.de [129.13.102.14]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4CC2E37B57A for ; Mon, 14 Aug 2000 07:44:29 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from schemitz@ekp.physik.uni-karlsruhe.de) Received: (from schemitz@localhost) by ekplx14.physik.uni-karlsruhe.de (8.9.3/8.9.3/SuSE Linux 8.9.3-0.1) id QAA10419 for doc@freebsd.org; Mon, 14 Aug 2000 16:44:21 +0200 Date: Mon, 14 Aug 2000 16:44:21 +0200 From: Patrick Schemitz To: doc@freebsd.org Subject: Porters Handbook Postscript Version? Message-ID: <20000814164421.A10411@ekplx14.physik.uni-karlsruhe.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0pre3i Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hello, I was wondering if there was a PostScript version of the FreeBSD Porter's Handbook? I could only find the HTML version on freebsd.org. Cheers, patrick -- Patrick Schemitz http://www-ekp.physik.uni-karlsruhe.de/~schemitz University of Karlsruhe (TH) - Faculty for Physics, EKP, KaCDF Tracking Group Disclaimer: My employer doesn't even agree with me about C indentation style. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Mon Aug 14 9:26:55 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from cambridge1-smrly2.gtei.net (cambridge1-smrly2.gtei.net [199.94.215.244]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C2D7937BAFC for ; Mon, 14 Aug 2000 09:26:53 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from AndrewGould@shannonhealth.org) Received: from istech4.shannonhealth.org (istech4.shannonhealth.org [4.18.79.4]) by cambridge1-smrly2.gtei.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E35FE1E02E for ; Mon, 14 Aug 2000 16:26:52 +0000 (GMT) Received: by ISTECH4 with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) id ; Mon, 14 Aug 2000 11:34:20 -0500 Message-ID: <206499C84775D3119A000000F879310E011276D8@ISTECH4> From: Andrew Gould To: "'doc@FreeBSD.org'" Subject: MSDOSFS and FAT32 Date: Mon, 14 Aug 2000 11:34:20 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I am new to FreeBSD and, after searching the documentation, have been under the impression that FreeBSD cannot read or write to the FAT32 file system. I was told today, via email from questions@FreeBSD.org, that the MSDOSFS option in the kernel enables FreeBSD to read/write to FAT32. The MSDOSFS option is included in the GENERIC kernel. For people who are considering using FreeBSD, this is very important information. During evaluation of the OS, it is very helpful to have common partitions that are readable by all OS's on the system. If the MSDOSFS kernel option does, in fact, enable FreeBSD to read/write FAT32, would you consider making this very clear in the FAQ? Thank you, Andrew Gould To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Mon Aug 14 10: 7: 4 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from xellos.bignet.net (xellos.bignet.net [64.79.64.6]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4381E37BE27; Mon, 14 Aug 2000 10:06:54 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from will@almanac.yi.org) Received: from argon.gryphonsoft.com (mcut-b-078.resnet.purdue.edu [128.211.209.78]) by xellos.bignet.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA03717; Mon, 14 Aug 2000 13:06:46 -0400 Received: by argon.gryphonsoft.com (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 287C6197F; Mon, 14 Aug 2000 13:03:30 -0400 (EDT) Date: Mon, 14 Aug 2000 13:03:30 -0400 From: Will Andrews To: Akinori -Aki- MUSHA Cc: www@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-current@FreeBSD.org, cvs-committers@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: HEADS UP: our CVSweb has been updated Message-ID: <20000814130330.D1684@argon.gryphonsoft.com> References: <861yzsxhzi.wl@localhost.local.idaemons.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <861yzsxhzi.wl@localhost.local.idaemons.org>; from knu@idaemons.org on Mon, Aug 14, 2000 at 07:19:29PM +0900 X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 5.0-CURRENT i386 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Mon, Aug 14, 2000 at 07:19:29PM +0900, Akinori -Aki- MUSHA wrote: > I imported cvsweb.conf and cvsweb.conf-* files in the same directory > as cvsweb.cgi is so we could maintain them as well as cvsweb.cgi. > They are read only when there are no /usr/local/etc/cvsweb.conf, so > please copy them to your local directory /usr/local/etc/ and configure > them as they suit your local environment. (e.g. changing locations of > repositories) Thank you *VERY*MUCH*. -- Will Andrews GCS/E/S @d- s+:+ a--- C++ UB++++$ P+ L- E--- W+ N-- !o ?K w--- O- M+ V- PS+ PE++ Y+ PGP+>+++ t++ 5 X+ R+ tv+ b++ DI+++ D+ G++ e>++++ h! r- y? To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Mon Aug 14 11: 0:21 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 71A8937BE0A for ; Mon, 14 Aug 2000 11:00:14 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-bugmaster@freebsd.org) Received: (from peter@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) id LAA72948 for freebsd-doc@freebsd.org; Mon, 14 Aug 2000 11:00:13 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-bugmaster@freebsd.org) Date: Mon, 14 Aug 2000 11:00:13 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <200008141800.LAA72948@freefall.freebsd.org> X-Authentication-Warning: freefall.freebsd.org: peter set sender to owner-bugmaster@freebsd.org using -f From: FreeBSD bugmaster To: FreeBSD doc list Subject: Current unassigned doc problem reports Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Current FreeBSD problem reports The following is a listing of current problems submitted by FreeBSD users. These represent problem reports covering all versions including experimental development code and obsolete releases. Bugs can be in one of several states: o - open A problem report has been submitted, no sanity checking performed. a - analyzed The report has been examined by a team member and evaluated. f - feedback The problem has been solved, and the originator has been given a patch or a fix has been committed. The PR remains in this state pending a response from the originator. s - suspended The problem is not being worked on. This is a prime candidate for somebody who is looking for a project to do. If the problem cannot be solved at all, it will be closed, rather than suspended. c - closed A problem report is closed when any changes have been integrated, documented, and tested. Critical problems Serious problems S Submitted Tracker Resp. Description ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- o [2000/07/18] docs/20028 doc ASCII docs should reflect tags o [2000/07/23] docs/20117 doc *printf manpage doesn't document %n 2 problems total. Non-critical problems S Submitted Tracker Resp. Description ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- a [1998/07/31] docs/7456 doc dialog(3) man page outdated o [1999/04/07] docs/10997 doc Problem with query-pr-summary.cgi o [1999/09/25] docs/13950 doc webpage idea o [1999/09/25] docs/13967 doc FreeBSD Related Publications in Korea o [1999/10/06] docs/14158 doc md5(1) manpage should not claim the md5 a o [1999/10/27] docs/14565 doc ioctl() codes for device type `fd' (flopp o [2000/02/20] docs/16843 doc Knob for release/Makefile to prevent dele o [2000/03/18] docs/17470 doc Missing man page: pthread_yield f [2000/03/20] docs/17521 doc Proposed FAQ on assembly programming o [2000/03/25] docs/17598 doc installworld over NFS documentation no lo o [2000/04/03] kern/17774 doc stray irq7 o [2000/05/03] docs/18379 doc Information on SSH hard to find in Handbo o [2000/05/19] docs/18674 doc ntptime.htm and ntptime.8 o [2000/06/05] docs/19010 doc Bad144 obsoletion by 4.0 is undocumented; o [2000/06/23] docs/19481 doc Serial Communications chapter in Handbook o [2000/06/25] docs/19507 doc Mailing-list search at www.freebsd.org re o [2000/07/10] docs/19818 doc /usr/share/man/man8/sysinstall.8 missing o [2000/07/17] docs/19981 doc Indonesian translations o [2000/07/17] docs/19995 doc keymap(5) missing from manual in 3.4-RELE o [2000/07/20] docs/20067 doc src/sbin/nologin/nologin.5 is bad place o [2000/07/30] docs/20298 doc man 5 keymap missing in 4.1 (Stable) o [2000/08/02] docs/20369 doc [patch] mountd.8 missing cross-references o [2000/08/04] docs/20400 doc Building a kernel with debugging info sec o [2000/08/06] docs/20447 doc forcing NFS exports to be updated o [2000/08/07] docs/20453 doc wrong character set for chinese FAQ o [2000/08/07] docs/20477 doc Document syslogd's special treatment of k o [2000/08/10] docs/20528 doc sysconf(3) manpage doesn't mention posix. 27 problems total. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Mon Aug 14 11:46: 7 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mta06-svc.ntlworld.com (mta06-svc.ntlworld.com [62.253.162.46]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9DD3D37BA42 for ; Mon, 14 Aug 2000 11:45:59 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mark@ukug.uk.freebsd.org) Received: from parish.my.domain ([62.255.97.161]) by mta06-svc.ntlworld.com (InterMail vM.4.01.02.27 201-229-119-110) with ESMTP id <20000814184557.KGBZ312.mta06-svc.ntlworld.com@parish.my.domain>; Mon, 14 Aug 2000 19:45:57 +0100 Received: (from mark@localhost) by parish.my.domain (8.9.3/8.9.3) id TAA01670; Mon, 14 Aug 2000 19:45:35 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from mark) Date: Mon, 14 Aug 2000 19:45:35 +0100 From: Mark Ovens To: Dan Kalowsky Cc: doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: error in documentation Message-ID: <20000814194535.B254@parish> References: <3997EE00.77988B82@wgate.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <3997EE00.77988B82@wgate.com>; from dkalowsky@wgate.com on Mon, Aug 14, 2000 at 09:02:56AM -0400 Organization: Total lack of Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Mon, Aug 14, 2000 at 09:02:56AM -0400, Dan Kalowsky wrote: > http://www.freebsd.org/FAQ/admin.html#AEN2735 > > > minor typo in your dcumentation on the above URL. > > you have listed > > # sh MAKDEV snd0 > > shouldn't it be > > # sh MAKEDEV snd0 > > ?? You are quite correct. I will fix this. Thanks for pointing it out. BTW, can anyone explain why many (most?) people suggest running ``sh MAKEDEV '' rather than ``./MAKEDEV > -- > Dan Kalowsky "Tonight I think I'll walk > alone, > Worldgate Communications, Trevose PA I'll find my soul as I go > home." > Software Engineer - TICS Group - Temptation > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message -- 4.4 - The number of the Beastie ________________________________________________________________ 51.44°N FreeBSD - The Power To Serve http://www.freebsd.org 2.057°W My Webpage http://ukug.uk.freebsd.org/~mark mailto:marko@freebsd.org http://www.radan.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Mon Aug 14 11:50:38 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mta06-svc.ntlworld.com (mta06-svc.ntlworld.com [62.253.162.46]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 98D8537BDB9 for ; Mon, 14 Aug 2000 11:50:32 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mark@ukug.uk.freebsd.org) Received: from parish.my.domain ([62.255.97.161]) by mta06-svc.ntlworld.com (InterMail vM.4.01.02.27 201-229-119-110) with ESMTP id <20000814185030.KGPH312.mta06-svc.ntlworld.com@parish.my.domain>; Mon, 14 Aug 2000 19:50:30 +0100 Received: (from mark@localhost) by parish.my.domain (8.9.3/8.9.3) id TAA01718; Mon, 14 Aug 2000 19:50:09 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from mark) Date: Mon, 14 Aug 2000 19:50:09 +0100 From: Mark Ovens To: Dan Kalowsky Cc: doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: error in documentation Message-ID: <20000814195009.C254@parish> References: <3997EE00.77988B82@wgate.com> <20000814194535.B254@parish> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <20000814194535.B254@parish>; from marko@freebsd.org on Mon, Aug 14, 2000 at 07:45:35PM +0100 Organization: Total lack of Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Mon, Aug 14, 2000 at 07:45:35PM +0100, Mark Ovens wrote: > On Mon, Aug 14, 2000 at 09:02:56AM -0400, Dan Kalowsky wrote: > > http://www.freebsd.org/FAQ/admin.html#AEN2735 > > > > > > minor typo in your dcumentation on the above URL. > > > > you have listed > > > > # sh MAKDEV snd0 > > > > shouldn't it be > > > > # sh MAKEDEV snd0 > > > > ?? > > You are quite correct. I will fix this. Thanks for pointing it out. ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Forget I said that. 2 minutes after I posted I saw Ben has already done so. > > BTW, can anyone explain why many (most?) people suggest running ``sh > MAKEDEV '' rather than ``./MAKEDEV are preceded by ``cd /dev'')? > > The first line of /dev/MAKEDEV is: > > #!/bin/sh - > > so irrespective of which shell the user runs MAKEDEV from it will > always be executed under sh(1). > > Is this just another historical thing? > > > > > -- > > Dan Kalowsky "Tonight I think I'll walk > > alone, > > Worldgate Communications, Trevose PA I'll find my soul as I go > > home." > > Software Engineer - TICS Group - Temptation > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > > with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message > > -- > 4.4 - The number of the Beastie > ________________________________________________________________ > 51.44°N FreeBSD - The Power To Serve http://www.freebsd.org > 2.057°W My Webpage http://ukug.uk.freebsd.org/~mark > mailto:marko@freebsd.org http://www.radan.com > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message -- 4.4 - The number of the Beastie ________________________________________________________________ 51.44°N FreeBSD - The Power To Serve http://www.freebsd.org 2.057°W My Webpage http://ukug.uk.freebsd.org/~mark mailto:marko@freebsd.org http://www.radan.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Mon Aug 14 12:12:56 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from scientia.demon.co.uk (scientia.demon.co.uk [212.228.14.13]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 639B237BB1F for ; Mon, 14 Aug 2000 12:12:49 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ben@scientia.demon.co.uk) Received: from strontium.scientia.demon.co.uk ([192.168.91.36] ident=exim) by scientia.demon.co.uk with esmtp (Exim 3.15 #1) id 13OPcu-000PxJ-00; Mon, 14 Aug 2000 20:10:24 +0100 Received: (from ben) by strontium.scientia.demon.co.uk (Exim 3.15 #1) id 13OPcu-000B9k-00; Mon, 14 Aug 2000 20:10:24 +0100 Date: Mon, 14 Aug 2000 20:10:24 +0100 From: Ben Smithurst To: Dan Kalowsky Cc: doc@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: error in documentation Message-ID: <20000814201024.F48327@strontium.scientia.demon.co.uk> References: <3997EE00.77988B82@wgate.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2i In-Reply-To: <3997EE00.77988B82@wgate.com> Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Dan Kalowsky wrote: > minor typo in your dcumentation on the above URL. > > you have listed > > # sh MAKDEV snd0 > > shouldn't it be > > # sh MAKEDEV snd0 > > ?? I've just fixed this, thanks. The website should be updated within 24 hours. -- Ben Smithurst / ben@FreeBSD.org / PGP: 0x99392F7D FreeBSD Documentation Project / To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Mon Aug 14 12:46:42 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk [193.237.89.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 96CCA37BA21; Mon, 14 Aug 2000 12:46:10 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nik@nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk) Received: from kilt.nothing-going-on.org (root@kilt.nothing-going-on.org [192.168.1.18]) by nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id TAA27058; Mon, 14 Aug 2000 19:59:38 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from nik@catkin.nothing-going-on.org) Received: (from nik@localhost) by nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id IAA00777; Mon, 14 Aug 2000 08:12:12 GMT (envelope-from nik) Date: Mon, 14 Aug 2000 08:12:11 +0000 From: Nik Clayton To: Jim Mock Cc: Nik Clayton , Mark Ovens , "David O'Brien" , doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Porters handbook missing for docs webpage Message-ID: <20000814081211.A706@kilt.nothing-going-on.org> References: <20000809035116.A986@dragon.nuxi.com> <20000809123016.A251@parish> <20000813211222.D4052@kilt.nothing-going-on.org> <20000813163111.B516@luna.osd.bsdi.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2i In-Reply-To: <20000813163111.B516@luna.osd.bsdi.com>; from jim@FreeBSD.org on Sun, Aug 13, 2000 at 04:31:11PM -0700 Organization: FreeBSD Project Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Sun, Aug 13, 2000 at 04:31:11PM -0700, Jim Mock wrote: > > My preferred approach to this is to set up docs.freebsd.org, probably > > modeled along very similar lines to docs.sun.com. We can then set up > > the links within docs.freebsd.org along much more logical and simple > > lines than the mess of links, redirects, and Makefile kludges that > > sit in the current web site. > > Woo hoo! :-) > > > This is probably simpler than trying to iteratively improve the > > situation in www/. > > > > Volunteers wanted. > > What do you have in mind? Didn't we go through this at Usenix :-) Ideally, the site should present the user with the documentation organised in a number of different ways. The first, and easiest way is to show the man/article/book distinction, and let the user find what they want that way. That should be rev 1.0. What I'd also like to do is create several virtual categories, and place some of the documentation in to those categories. So, a hypothetical "Using Samba on FreeBSD" document might go in to the "File sharing", "Windows", and "Printing" categories (assuming it talked about Samba printing). Internally we would arrange this with a CATEGORIES variable in the Makefile (or similar) that created a bunch of symlinks. As far as *we*, the infrastructure people, are concerned, we still only distinguish between man pages, books, and articles. But the end user can browse through different categories as necessary. This is rev 2.0. In my really ideal world, the website is built from some template pages and a script that works its way through the installed documentation. So the canonical docs.freebsd.org would be produced from a fully installed documentation set. However, end users should be able to use the same script to produce an HTML tree on their local machine which accurately reflects the documentation they have installed. N -- Internet connection, $19.95 a month. Computer, $799.95. Modem, $149.95. Telephone line, $24.95 a month. Software, free. USENET transmission, hundreds if not thousands of dollars. Thinking before posting, priceless. Somethings in life you can't buy. For everything else, there's MasterCard. -- Graham Reed, in the Scary Devil Monastery To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Mon Aug 14 13:48:24 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from manatee.mammalia.org (manatee.mammalia.org [216.231.50.6]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A158137B572; Mon, 14 Aug 2000 13:48:20 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from rjoseph@mammalia.org) Received: by manatee.mammalia.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 4B74011CD18; Mon, 14 Aug 2000 13:48:18 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 14 Aug 2000 13:48:18 -0700 From: R Joseph Wright To: Mark Ovens Cc: freebsd-doc Subject: Re: error in documentation Message-ID: <20000814134818.A35512@mammalia.org> References: <3997EE00.77988B82@wgate.com> <20000814194535.B254@parish> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.4i In-Reply-To: <20000814194535.B254@parish>; from marko@freebsd.org on Mon, Aug 14, 2000 at 07:45:35PM +0100 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org And Mark Ovens spoke: > BTW, can anyone explain why many (most?) people suggest running ``sh > MAKEDEV '' rather than ``./MAKEDEV are preceded by ``cd /dev'')? It's to make sure that the MAKEDEV script is run by sh, and not whatever shell you happen to be running, such as csh for example. Joseph To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Mon Aug 14 14: 4:32 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from smtp2.mail.yahoo.com (smtp2.mail.yahoo.com [128.11.68.32]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 2E2DC37B589 for ; Mon, 14 Aug 2000 14:04:29 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from joelh83@yahoo.com) Received: from usr1t1-42.nm.kconline.com (HELO joel) (216.241.134.106) by smtp2.mail.yahoo.com with SMTP; 14 Aug 2000 20:51:54 -0000 X-Apparently-From: Message-ID: <001a01c00631$752cac40$6a86f1d8@joel> From: "Joel Hartsough" To: Subject: bootable image Date: Mon, 14 Aug 2000 15:51:36 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0017_01C00607.871964E0" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0017_01C00607.871964E0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I downloaded the 4.1 ISO image witch was supposed to be bootable, but my = burning software says there isn't any boot sector. Is the documentation = or the image wrong? Or am I wrong? Thanks. ------=_NextPart_000_0017_01C00607.871964E0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
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Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Mon Aug 14 16: 3:17 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mta06-svc.ntlworld.com (mta06-svc.ntlworld.com [62.253.162.46]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5B94337BEB5; Mon, 14 Aug 2000 16:00:57 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mark@ukug.uk.freebsd.org) Received: from parish.my.domain ([62.253.86.112]) by mta07-svc.ntlworld.com (InterMail vM.4.01.02.27 201-229-119-110) with ESMTP id <20000814224920.KHXL295.mta07-svc.ntlworld.com@parish.my.domain>; Mon, 14 Aug 2000 23:49:20 +0100 Received: (from mark@localhost) by parish.my.domain (8.9.3/8.9.3) id XAA00638; Mon, 14 Aug 2000 23:48:59 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from mark) Date: Mon, 14 Aug 2000 23:48:53 +0100 From: Mark Ovens To: Nik Clayton Cc: Jim Mock , "David O'Brien" , doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Porters handbook missing for docs webpage Message-ID: <20000814234853.C254@parish> References: <20000809035116.A986@dragon.nuxi.com> <20000809123016.A251@parish> <20000813211222.D4052@kilt.nothing-going-on.org> <20000813163111.B516@luna.osd.bsdi.com> <20000814081211.A706@kilt.nothing-going-on.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <20000814081211.A706@kilt.nothing-going-on.org>; from nik@freebsd.org on Mon, Aug 14, 2000 at 08:12:11AM +0000 Organization: Total lack of Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Mon, Aug 14, 2000 at 08:12:11AM +0000, Nik Clayton wrote: > On Sun, Aug 13, 2000 at 04:31:11PM -0700, Jim Mock wrote: > > > My preferred approach to this is to set up docs.freebsd.org, probably > > > modeled along very similar lines to docs.sun.com. We can then set up > > > the links within docs.freebsd.org along much more logical and simple > > > lines than the mess of links, redirects, and Makefile kludges that > > > sit in the current web site. > > > > Woo hoo! :-) > > > > > This is probably simpler than trying to iteratively improve the > > > situation in www/. > > > > > > Volunteers wanted. > > > > What do you have in mind? > > Didn't we go through this at Usenix :-) > > Ideally, the site should present the user with the documentation organised > in a number of different ways. > OK, I'm volunteering to do some (all?) of the work (writing the SGML) once it's been decided what is wanted. One thing Nik mentioned in some previous discussions was that he would like to have a grid/matrix/table showing the languages the various docs are available in: I also wouldn't mind seeing a translation table that listed all the docs, and an indication of whether or not they've been translated. . . en es fr ja ru zh Handbook x x x FAQ x x x x x x FDP Primer x Porter's Handbook x x [...] > The first, and easiest way is to show the man/article/book distinction, and > let the user find what they want that way. That should be rev 1.0. > > What I'd also like to do is create several virtual categories, and place > some of the documentation in to those categories. So, a hypothetical > "Using Samba on FreeBSD" document might go in to the "File sharing", > "Windows", and "Printing" categories (assuming it talked about Samba > printing). > > Internally we would arrange this with a CATEGORIES variable in the > Makefile (or similar) that created a bunch of symlinks. As far as > *we*, the infrastructure people, are concerned, we still only > distinguish between man pages, books, and articles. But the end user > can browse through different categories as necessary. This is rev > 2.0. > > In my really ideal world, the website is built from some template pages and > a script that works its way through the installed documentation. So the > canonical docs.freebsd.org would be produced from a fully installed > documentation set. However, end users should be able to use the same script > to produce an HTML tree on their local machine which accurately reflects the > documentation they have installed. > > N > -- > Internet connection, $19.95 a month. Computer, $799.95. Modem, $149.95. > Telephone line, $24.95 a month. Software, free. USENET transmission, > hundreds if not thousands of dollars. Thinking before posting, priceless. > Somethings in life you can't buy. For everything else, there's MasterCard. > -- Graham Reed, in the Scary Devil Monastery > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message -- 4.4 - The number of the Beastie ________________________________________________________________ 51.44°N FreeBSD - The Power To Serve http://www.freebsd.org 2.057°W My Webpage http://ukug.uk.freebsd.org/~mark mailto:marko@freebsd.org http://www.radan.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Mon Aug 14 16:11: 9 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mta06-svc.ntlworld.com (mta06-svc.ntlworld.com [62.253.162.46]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 00AB637BEC2 for ; Mon, 14 Aug 2000 16:11:02 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mark@ukug.uk.freebsd.org) Received: from parish.my.domain ([62.253.86.112]) by mta07-svc.ntlworld.com (InterMail vM.4.01.02.27 201-229-119-110) with ESMTP id <20000814222357.KFNE295.mta07-svc.ntlworld.com@parish.my.domain>; Mon, 14 Aug 2000 23:23:57 +0100 Received: (from mark@localhost) by parish.my.domain (8.9.3/8.9.3) id XAA00425; Mon, 14 Aug 2000 23:23:33 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from mark) Date: Mon, 14 Aug 2000 23:23:32 +0100 From: Mark Ovens To: R Joseph Wright Cc: freebsd-doc Subject: Re: error in documentation Message-ID: <20000814232332.A254@parish> References: <3997EE00.77988B82@wgate.com> <20000814194535.B254@parish> <20000814134818.A35512@mammalia.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <20000814134818.A35512@mammalia.org>; from rjoseph@mammalia.org on Mon, Aug 14, 2000 at 01:48:18PM -0700 Organization: Total lack of Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Mon, Aug 14, 2000 at 01:48:18PM -0700, R Joseph Wright wrote: > And Mark Ovens spoke: > > > BTW, can anyone explain why many (most?) people suggest running ``sh > > MAKEDEV '' rather than ``./MAKEDEV > are preceded by ``cd /dev'')? > > It's to make sure that the MAKEDEV script is run by sh, and not whatever > shell you happen to be running, such as csh for example. > You snipped the rest of my post which said: The first line of /dev/MAKEDEV is: #!/bin/sh - so irrespective of which shell the user runs MAKEDEV from it will always be executed under sh(1). The first line exec(1)s sh(1) so MAKEDEV will always be run under sh(1) (if sh(1) doesn't exist, or isn't in $PATH, you get ``./MAKEDEV: Command not found.''). > Joseph > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message -- 4.4 - The number of the Beastie ________________________________________________________________ 51.44°N FreeBSD - The Power To Serve http://www.freebsd.org 2.057°W My Webpage http://ukug.uk.freebsd.org/~mark mailto:marko@freebsd.org http://www.radan.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Tue Aug 15 14:21:40 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mailserver.tentv.com (mail.tentv.com [207.138.33.36]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id D6C7337B9F2 for ; Tue, 15 Aug 2000 14:21:32 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mikky@ukrpost.net) Received: from dial-up27.tsystems.kiev.ua (dial-up27.tsystems.kiev.ua [212.40.32.154]) by mailserver.tentv.com (NTMail 3.03.0017/4c.abup) with ESMTP id ha360107 for ; Tue, 15 Aug 2000 14:28:24 -0500 Date: Sat, 12 Aug 2000 03:05:08 +0200 From: Mik X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.41) Reply-To: Mik Organization: XATA X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <2128.000812@ukrpost.net> To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: error with links Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi! Unfortunately all links made to pages www.freebsd.org/ru/handbook/*.html are NOT VALID, because those pages exists only at www.freebsd.org/handbook/*.html. Please correct these mistakes if it is possible (for example, on page http://www.freebsd.org/ru/support.html) Sincerely yours. Mik mikky@ukrpost.net To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Tue Aug 15 14:50: 9 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 278E337BF2A for ; Tue, 15 Aug 2000 14:50:04 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) id OAA11798; Tue, 15 Aug 2000 14:50:04 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: from hand.dotat.at (sfo-gw.covalent.net [207.44.198.62]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D433637BC91 for ; Tue, 15 Aug 2000 14:42:22 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from fanf@dotat.at) Received: from fanf by hand.dotat.at with local (Exim 3.15 #3) id 13OoTH-000876-00 for FreeBSD-gnats-submit@freebsd.org; Tue, 15 Aug 2000 21:42:07 +0000 Message-Id: Date: Tue, 15 Aug 2000 21:42:07 +0000 From: Tony Finch Reply-To: Tony Finch To: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@freebsd.org X-Send-Pr-Version: 3.2 Subject: docs/20626: environment variables missing from fetch(3) Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org >Number: 20626 >Category: docs >Synopsis: fetch(3) omits some of the env. vars understood by the library >Confidential: no >Severity: non-critical >Priority: low >Responsible: freebsd-doc >State: open >Quarter: >Keywords: >Date-Required: >Class: doc-bug >Submitter-Id: current-users >Arrival-Date: Tue Aug 15 14:50:04 PDT 2000 >Closed-Date: >Last-Modified: >Originator: Tony Finch >Release: FreeBSD 4.1-STABLE-20000810 i386 >Organization: dotat >Environment: >Description: The following environment variables are understood by libfetch but are not documented: FTP_PASSIVE_MODE FTP_PASSWORD >How-To-Repeat: >Fix: >Release-Note: >Audit-Trail: >Unformatted: To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Tue Aug 15 15:40:11 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0C74837C2D8 for ; Tue, 15 Aug 2000 15:40:01 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) id PAA19697; Tue, 15 Aug 2000 15:40:01 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: from bmah-freebsd-0.cisco.com (bmah-freebsd-0.cisco.com [171.70.84.42]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2D8B337BACB for ; Tue, 15 Aug 2000 15:35:49 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from bmah@cisco.com) Received: (from bmah@localhost) by bmah-freebsd-0.cisco.com (8.11.0/8.11.0) id e7FMZm291625; Tue, 15 Aug 2000 15:35:48 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from bmah) Message-Id: <200008152235.e7FMZm291625@bmah-freebsd-0.cisco.com> Date: Tue, 15 Aug 2000 15:35:48 -0700 (PDT) From: bmah@cisco.com (Bruce A. Mah) Reply-To: bmah@cisco.com To: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@freebsd.org X-Send-Pr-Version: 3.2 Subject: docs/20628: [patch] RELNOTES.TXT updates Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org >Number: 20628 >Category: docs >Synopsis: [patch] RELNOTES.TXT updates >Confidential: no >Severity: non-critical >Priority: low >Responsible: freebsd-doc >State: open >Quarter: >Keywords: >Date-Required: >Class: change-request >Submitter-Id: current-users >Arrival-Date: Tue Aug 15 15:40:00 PDT 2000 >Closed-Date: >Last-Modified: >Originator: Bruce A. Mah >Release: FreeBSD 4.0-RELEASE i386 >Organization: Cisco Systems, Inc. >Environment: 5-CURRENT >Description: Here's some updates for RELNOTES.TXT, both the alpha and i386 versions. These are the "most interesting" things that I've seen come across cvs-all. If possible I would like an alpha person to take a look to make sure all of the RELNOTES.TXT changes are really applicable. >How-To-Repeat: >Fix: Index: release/texts/alpha/RELNOTES.TXT =================================================================== RCS file: /cvsroot/src/release/texts/alpha/RELNOTES.TXT,v retrieving revision 1.47 diff -c -r1.47 RELNOTES.TXT *** release/texts/alpha/RELNOTES.TXT 2000/08/15 18:05:02 1.47 --- release/texts/alpha/RELNOTES.TXT 2000/08/15 22:31:12 *************** *** 76,81 **** --- 76,91 ---- Added support for PCI ethernet adapters based on the National Semiconductor DP83815 chipset, including the NetGear FA312-TX. + The tap driver, a virtual Ethernet device driver for bridged + configurations, has been added. [MERGED] + + accept_filters, a kernel feature to reduce overheads when accepting + and reading new connections on listening sockets, has been added. + [MERGED] + + The ata(4) driver now has experimental support for ATA100 controllers. + + 1.2. SECURITY FIXES ------------------- *************** *** 128,133 **** --- 138,159 ---- awk has been upgraded from gawk-3.0.4 to gawk-3.0.6. This fixes a number of non-critical bugs and includes a few performance tweaks. + + routed(8) has been updated to version 2.22. + + The truncate(1) utility, which truncates or extends the length + of files, has been added. [MERGED] + + syslogd(8) can take a -n option to disable DNS queries for every + request. [MERGED] + + kenv(1), a command to dump the kernel environment, has been added. + [MERGED] + + The behavior of periodic(8) is now controlled by /etc/defaults/periodic.conf + and /etc/periodic.conf. [MERGED] + + logger(1) can now send messages directly to a remote syslog. [MERGED] 2. Supported Configurations Index: release/texts/i386/RELNOTES.TXT =================================================================== RCS file: /cvsroot/src/release/texts/i386/RELNOTES.TXT,v retrieving revision 1.92 diff -c -r1.92 RELNOTES.TXT *** release/texts/i386/RELNOTES.TXT 2000/08/15 18:05:05 1.92 --- release/texts/i386/RELNOTES.TXT 2000/08/15 22:31:09 *************** *** 94,99 **** --- 94,109 ---- twe 3ware ATA RAID driver added. [MERGED] + The tap driver, a virtual Ethernet device driver for bridged + configurations, has been added. [MERGED] + + accept_filters, a kernel feature to reduce overheads when accepting + and reading new connections on listening sockets, has been added. + [MERGED] + + The ata(4) driver now has experimental support for ATA100 controllers. + + 1.2. SECURITY FIXES ------------------- *************** *** 159,164 **** --- 169,193 ---- awk has been upgraded from gawk-3.0.4 to gawk-3.0.6. This fixes a number of non-critical bugs and includes a few performance tweaks. + + routed(8) has been updated to version 2.22. + + The truncate(1) utility, which truncates or extends the length + of files, has been added. [MERGED] + + syslogd(8) can take a -n option to disable DNS queries for every + request. [MERGED] + + kenv(1), a command to dump the kernel environment, has been added. + [MERGED] + + The behavior of periodic(8) is now controlled by /etc/defaults/periodic.conf + and /etc/periodic.conf. [MERGED] + + boot98cfg(8), a PC-98 boot manager installation and configuration + utility, has been added. + + logger(1) can now send messages directly to a remote syslog. [MERGED] 2. Supported Configurations >Release-Note: >Audit-Trail: >Unformatted: To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Tue Aug 15 15:50:35 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EDF7D37BAD4 for ; Tue, 15 Aug 2000 15:50:04 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) id PAA20612; Tue, 15 Aug 2000 15:50:05 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: from bmah-freebsd-0.cisco.com (bmah-freebsd-0.cisco.com [171.70.84.42]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4145C37BEA4 for ; Tue, 15 Aug 2000 15:43:59 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from bmah@cisco.com) Received: (from bmah@localhost) by bmah-freebsd-0.cisco.com (8.11.0/8.11.0) id e7FMhxF91887; Tue, 15 Aug 2000 15:43:59 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from bmah) Message-Id: <200008152243.e7FMhxF91887@bmah-freebsd-0.cisco.com> Date: Tue, 15 Aug 2000 15:43:59 -0700 (PDT) From: bmah@cisco.com (Bruce A. Mah) Reply-To: bmah@cisco.com To: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@freebsd.org X-Send-Pr-Version: 3.2 Subject: docs/20630: [patch] RELNOTES.TXT changes for 4-STABLE Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org >Number: 20630 >Category: docs >Synopsis: [patch] RELNOTES.TXT changes for 4-STABLE >Confidential: no >Severity: non-critical >Priority: low >Responsible: freebsd-doc >State: open >Quarter: >Keywords: >Date-Required: >Class: change-request >Submitter-Id: current-users >Arrival-Date: Tue Aug 15 15:50:04 PDT 2000 >Closed-Date: >Last-Modified: >Originator: Bruce A. Mah >Release: FreeBSD 4.0-RELEASE i386 >Organization: Cisco Systems, Inc. >Environment: 4-STABLE >Description: Here's some patches for the 4-STABLE release notes. Cross-reference: docs/20628 >How-To-Repeat: >Fix: Index: release/texts/alpha/RELNOTES.TXT =================================================================== RCS file: /cvsroot/src/release/texts/alpha/RELNOTES.TXT,v retrieving revision 1.31.2.27 diff -c -r1.31.2.27 RELNOTES.TXT *** release/texts/alpha/RELNOTES.TXT 2000/07/26 21:16:45 1.31.2.27 --- release/texts/alpha/RELNOTES.TXT 2000/08/15 22:30:24 *************** *** 45,55 **** --- 45,78 ---- 1.1. KERNEL CHANGES ------------------- + The tap driver, a virtual Ethernet device driver for bridged + configurations, has been added. + + accept_filters, a kernel feature to reduce overheads when accepting + and reading new connections on listening sockets, has been added. + + 1.2. SECURITY FIXES ------------------- 1.3. USERLAND CHANGES --------------------- + + routed(8) has been updated to version 2.22. + + The truncate(1) utility, which truncates or extends the length + of files, has been added. + + syslogd(8) can take a -n option to disable DNS queries for every + request. + + kenv(1), a command to dump the kernel environment, has been added. + + The behavior of periodic(8) is now controlled by /etc/defaults/periodic.conf + and /etc/periodic.conf. [MERGED] + + logger(1) can now send messages directly to a remote syslog. [MERGED] + 2. Supported Configurations --------------------------- Index: release/texts/i386/RELNOTES.TXT =================================================================== RCS file: /cvsroot/src/release/texts/i386/RELNOTES.TXT,v retrieving revision 1.72.2.19 diff -c -r1.72.2.19 RELNOTES.TXT *** release/texts/i386/RELNOTES.TXT 2000/08/08 18:55:17 1.72.2.19 --- release/texts/i386/RELNOTES.TXT 2000/08/15 22:30:29 *************** *** 45,55 **** --- 45,78 ---- 1.1. KERNEL CHANGES ------------------- + The tap driver, a virtual Ethernet device driver for bridged + configurations, has been added. + + accept_filters, a kernel feature to reduce overheads when accepting + and reading new connections on listening sockets, has been added. + + 1.2. SECURITY FIXES ------------------- 1.3. USERLAND CHANGES --------------------- + + routed(8) has been updated to version 2.22. + + The truncate(1) utility, which truncates or extends the length + of files, has been added. + + syslogd(8) can take a -n option to disable DNS queries for every + request. + + kenv(1), a command to dump the kernel environment, has been added. + + The behavior of periodic(8) is now controlled by /etc/defaults/periodic.conf + and /etc/periodic.conf. [MERGED] + + logger(1) can now send messages directly to a remote syslog. [MERGED] + 2. Supported Configurations --------------------------- >Release-Note: >Audit-Trail: >Unformatted: To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Wed Aug 16 0:47:24 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 24DA737BBF5; Wed, 16 Aug 2000 00:47:19 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from sheldonh@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from sheldonh@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) id AAA87702; Wed, 16 Aug 2000 00:47:18 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from sheldonh@FreeBSD.org) Date: Wed, 16 Aug 2000 00:47:18 -0700 (PDT) From: Message-Id: <200008160747.AAA87702@freefall.freebsd.org> To: sheldonh@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-doc@freebsd.org, des@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: docs/20626: fetch(3) omits some of the env. vars understood by the library Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Synopsis: fetch(3) omits some of the env. vars understood by the library Responsible-Changed-From-To: freebsd-doc->des Responsible-Changed-By: sheldonh Responsible-Changed-When: Wed Aug 16 00:46:34 PDT 2000 Responsible-Changed-Why: Over to the maintainer. http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=20626 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Thu Aug 17 18:51:51 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [216.136.129.65]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7755E37BB85 for ; Thu, 17 Aug 2000 18:50:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mta6.snfc21.pbi.net (mta6.snfc21.pbi.net [206.13.28.240]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3A4D66E41B7 for ; Thu, 17 Aug 2000 16:45:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: from sideonedummy.com ([216.102.153.46]) by mta6.snfc21.pbi.net (Sun Internet Mail Server sims.3.5.2000.01.05.12.18.p9) with SMTP id <0FZG0037UMQ1FD@mta6.snfc21.pbi.net> for doc@FreeBSD.org; Thu, 17 Aug 2000 16:32:40 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 17 Aug 2000 16:32:40 -0700 (PDT) Date-warning: Date header was inserted by mta6.snfc21.pbi.net From: info@sideonedummy.com Subject: Win the New 7SECONDS live CD To: info@sideonedummy.com Reply-To: info@sideonedummy.com Message-id: <0FZG003CVMQFFD@mta6.snfc21.pbi.net> Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hey, On August 22, Side One Dummy will release the 7Seconds' new live record "Scream Real Loud." 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Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hello, I am wondering If it is possible that you could add a download tag to the end of the page or anywhere to download the hole installation guide in one insted of going through the pages and copying the text and pasting into a word editor. 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*NOTE* (All calls must be made within the Continental U.S.) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Fri Aug 18 13:41:49 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from relay.ultimanet.com (relay.ultimanet.com [205.179.129.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 313ED37B506 for ; Fri, 18 Aug 2000 13:41:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: from Cloudfactory.ORG (cloudfactory.org [205.179.129.18]) by relay.ultimanet.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA11330 for ; Fri, 18 Aug 2000 13:49:03 -0700 Message-Id: <200008182049.NAA11330@relay.ultimanet.com> To: doc@freebsd.org Subject: ps2 mouse errors (solution) Date: Fri, 18 Aug 2000 13:45:34 -0700 From: Randy Primeaux Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Can the FAQ be consolidated regarding ps/2 mouse issues? I'd suggest hardware, with a reference in X-windows. This is in reference to: psmintr: out of sync (0000 != 0008) ------- Forwarded Message To: Michael Matsumura Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: ps2 mouse errors (solution) In-Reply-To: Message from Michael Matsumura of "Thu, 17 Aug 2000 00:16:24 PDT." <20000817001624.A22518@jupiter.limit.org> Date: Fri, 18 Aug 2000 13:34:36 -0700 From: Randy Primeaux The ps2 mouse error issue is documented in the FAQ. Certain wheelmouse and trackball products use a PS/2 SYNC protocol. SYNC is not needed to operate these products, however. http://www.freebsd.org/FAQ/x.html#AEN3087 http://www.freebsd.org/FAQ/hardware.html#PSMERR man psm For my specific issue, I turned on NOCHECKSYNC for my trackball. These are my 3-STABLE kernel config entries: # psm 0x100 NOCHECKSYNC # man psm - bit 8 NOCHECKSYNC for ThinkingMouse on KVM. device psm0 at isa? tty flags 0x100 irq 12 At my desk, I have a Kensington ExpertMouse ps/2 trackball, a KVM, and 3-STABLE (post 3.5-RELEASE). I'll soon be running an additional pair of 4-STABLE boxen on that KVM. For those of you with a MSWIN9x box on a KVM, use the standard ps/2 mouse driver to prevent the same issue. The FreeBSD FAQ and Kensington get credit for guiding me to this solution. In my opinion, I do not see this as a flaw in psm, as the flag is documented in the man page, and FreeBSD psm is not the only software with this issue. Other mouse software, on other OS platforms, also lose ps/2 sync through a keyboard-video-mouse switch. Michael Matsumura writes: > I'm using a ps2 Microsoft intellimouse v. 1.1A in XFree86 3.3.6, and > occasionally and randomly my mouse cursor just freezes and my syslog gives > me the following: > > Aug 17 00:09:28 jupiter /kernel: psmintr: out of sync (0000 != 0008). - -- Randy Primeaux randy@cloudfactory.org http://cloudfactory.org/~randy/ tranze@hyperreal.org http://hyperreal.org/~tranze/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message ------- End of Forwarded Message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Fri Aug 18 14:14:13 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mailout05.sul.t-online.com (mailout05.sul.t-online.com [194.25.134.82]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9C28837B423 for ; Fri, 18 Aug 2000 14:14:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: from fwd00.sul.t-online.com by mailout05.sul.t-online.com with smtp id 13PtSm-0005eM-01; Fri, 18 Aug 2000 23:14:04 +0200 Received: from trooper (320047674512-0001@[193.159.100.173]) by fwd00.sul.t-online.com with smtp id 13PtSj-1yh6yOC; Fri, 18 Aug 2000 23:14:01 +0200 Message-ID: <000801c00959$65f0c0b0$0100a8c0@trooper> From: SebastianBoldt@t-online.de (Sebastian Boldt) To: Subject: Date: Fri, 18 Aug 2000 23:15:07 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0005_01C0096A.26188B60" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6700 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6700 X-Sender: 320047674512-0001@t-dialin.net Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0005_01C0096A.26188B60 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I've a little problem. I=B4've downloaded the 4.1-install.iso file and = want do burn it to cd, but it doesn't work properbly. I use winoncd3.7. = can you help me, please?? cu... ...Schraube ------=_NextPart_000_0005_01C0096A.26188B60 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
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------=_NextPart_000_0005_01C0096A.26188B60-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Fri Aug 18 19:58:33 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mta1.tm.net.my (mta1.tm.net.my [202.188.0.145]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D9EEF37B422 for ; Fri, 18 Aug 2000 19:58:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: from cis02 ([203.106.136.131]) by mta1.tm.net.my (InterMail v03.02.05 118 121 101) with SMTP id <20000819025827.CXDT19589@cis02> for ; Sat, 19 Aug 2000 10:58:27 +0800 From: "nyy" To: Subject: download doc? Date: Sat, 19 Aug 2000 10:56:17 +0800 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Dear Sir, Where can i downoad the doc for FreeBSD HandBook ? Ng To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Fri Aug 18 22: 0:52 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from stage.alltel.net (stage.alltel.net [166.102.165.27]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6D97337B42C for ; Fri, 18 Aug 2000 22:00:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail.alltel.net (mail.alltel.net [166.102.165.30]) by stage.alltel.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id AAA22890 for ; Sat, 19 Aug 2000 00:00:43 -0500 (CDT) Received: from Quetzalcoatl (h216-170-006-194.adsl.navix.net [216.170.6.194]) by mail.alltel.net (8.9.3/8.9.3/ALLTEL Internet) with SMTP id AAA23185 for ; Sat, 19 Aug 2000 00:00:41 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <000a01c009ac$01e23240$0cc8a8c0@alltel.net> From: "Jerry" To: Subject: Date: Sat, 19 Aug 2000 00:06:19 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0007_01C00971.4D4B2A60" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0007_01C00971.4D4B2A60 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable not in the least helpful in getting this to install. see... i'm going = to leave it at that and let you figure it out for yourself what i mean = by not helpful, just like you left it up to me to figure out how to get = this junk to install. ------=_NextPart_000_0007_01C00971.4D4B2A60 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
not in the least helpful in getting = this to=20 install.  see...  i'm going to leave it at that and let you = figure it=20 out for yourself what i mean by not helpful, just like you left it up to = me to=20 figure out how to get this junk to install.
------=_NextPart_000_0007_01C00971.4D4B2A60-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Fri Aug 18 22: 5:16 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from cx587235-a.chnd1.az.home.com (cx587235-a.chnd1.az.home.com [24.11.88.170]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 292AE37B422 for ; Fri, 18 Aug 2000 22:05:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: from whale.home-net (whale [192.168.1.2]) by cx587235-a.chnd1.az.home.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id WAA30711; Fri, 18 Aug 2000 22:05:13 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from jjreynold@home.com) Received: (from jjreynold@localhost) by whale.home-net (8.9.3/8.9.3) id WAA19646; Fri, 18 Aug 2000 22:05:13 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from jjreynold@home.com) From: John Reynolds MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <14750.5513.143494.571961@whale.home-net> Date: Fri, 18 Aug 2000 22:05:13 -0700 (MST) To: "Jerry" Cc: In-Reply-To: <000a01c009ac$01e23240$0cc8a8c0@alltel.net> References: <000a01c009ac$01e23240$0cc8a8c0@alltel.net> X-Mailer: VM 6.75 under Emacs 20.7.1 Cc: Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org [ On Saturday, August 19, Jerry wrote: ] > > not in the least helpful in getting this to install. see... i'm going to > leave it at that and let you figure it out for yourself what i mean by not > helpful, just like you left it up to me to figure out how to get this junk to > install. This sort of babble will certainly illicit no constructive responses from anybody on the documentation team. If you take the time to provide concise examples about where you feel the documentation or online help in sysinstall is confusing, then we might listen. Thank you, -Jr -- =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= John Reynolds Chandler Capabilities Engineering, CDS, Intel Corporation jreynold@sedona.ch.intel.com My opinions are mine, not Intel's. Running jjreynold@home.com FreeBSD 4.1-STABLE. FreeBSD: The Power to Serve. http://members.home.com/jjreynold/ Come join us!!! @ http://www.FreeBSD.org/ =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Fri Aug 18 23: 6: 9 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from rock.ghis.net (rock.ghis.net [209.222.164.7]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4D92537B423 for ; Fri, 18 Aug 2000 23:06:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: from luna.osd.bsdi.com (postfix@1Cust203.tnt1.beaverton.or.da.uu.net [63.21.201.203]) by rock.ghis.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id XAA34745; Fri, 18 Aug 2000 23:06:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: by luna.osd.bsdi.com (Postfix, from userid 1000) id F3C8831BF; Fri, 18 Aug 2000 23:05:53 -0700 (PDT) Date: Fri, 18 Aug 2000 23:05:53 -0700 From: Jim Mock To: Jerry Cc: doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: your mail Message-ID: <20000818230553.B633@luna.osd.bsdi.com> Reply-To: jim@jmock.com References: <000a01c009ac$01e23240$0cc8a8c0@alltel.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <000a01c009ac$01e23240$0cc8a8c0@alltel.net>; from dr53003@alltel.net on Sat, Aug 19, 2000 at 12:06:19AM -0700 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Sat, 19 Aug 2000 at 00:06:19 -0700, Jerry wrote: > not in the least helpful in getting this to install. see... i'm > going to leave it at that and let you figure it out for yourself what > i mean by not helpful, just like you left it up to me to figure out > how to get this junk to install. First of all, if you're going to mail this list, please tell Outhouse Express NOT to send HTML mail. Secondly, if you planned on installing FreeBSD, you should've visited the web site, and chances are you did. So, please tell me, how is the gigantic ``Easy to install'' header on the main page of the site with a link to the installation instructions in the paragraph below it leaving it up to you to figure out? It's kind of hard to make it any more obvious than that. - jim -- jim mock work: jim@osd.bsdi.com | jim@FreeBSD.org http://soupnazi.org/ BSDi Open Source Div | http://bsdi.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sat Aug 19 0: 5:45 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from internal.nci.com.au (internal.nci.com.au [203.38.215.137]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 252E237B422 for ; Sat, 19 Aug 2000 00:05:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: from w95vmware.ns.com (ppp2.nci.com.au [172.30.0.162]) by ncigw.nci.com.au (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id MAA09788 for ; Sat, 19 Aug 2000 12:24:02 +0930 Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.20000819114140.00a63310@203.16.214.248> X-Sender: ns@203.16.214.248 X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.6 (32) Date: Sat, 19 Aug 2000 11:41:40 +0900 To: FreeBSD-doc@FreeBSD.ORG From: Richard Sharpe Subject: The SGML/DocBook code Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi, I have done documentation for Ethereal in SGML/DocBook, but am not happy with some of the elements I have. I would really love to look at your SGML, especially for the preface and cover pages etc, so I have examples to work with. Is it possible to get the SGML? Regards ------- Richard Sharpe, sharpe@ns.aus.com Samba (Team member, www.samba.org), Ethereal (Team member, www.zing.org) Contributing author, SAMS Teach Yourself Samba in 24 Hours Author, Special Edition, Using Samba To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sat Aug 19 0:31:49 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from wantadilla.lemis.com (wantadilla.lemis.com [192.109.197.80]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 10F2937B424 for ; Sat, 19 Aug 2000 00:31:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from grog@localhost) by wantadilla.lemis.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id RAA03874; Sat, 19 Aug 2000 17:01:40 +0930 (CST) (envelope-from grog) Date: Sat, 19 Aug 2000 17:01:40 +0930 From: Greg Lehey To: Richard Sharpe Cc: FreeBSD-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: The SGML/DocBook code Message-ID: <20000819170139.A323@wantadilla.lemis.com> References: <3.0.6.32.20000819114140.00a63310@203.16.214.248> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.4i In-Reply-To: <3.0.6.32.20000819114140.00a63310@203.16.214.248>; from sharpe@ns.aus.com on Sat, Aug 19, 2000 at 11:41:40AM +0900 Organization: LEMIS, PO Box 460, Echunga SA 5153, Australia Phone: +61-8-8388-8286 Fax: +61-8-8388-8725 Mobile: +61-418-838-708 WWW-Home-Page: http://www.lemis.com/~grog X-PGP-Fingerprint: 6B 7B C3 8C 61 CD 54 AF 13 24 52 F8 6D A4 95 EF Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Saturday, 19 August 2000 at 11:41:40 +0900, Richard Sharpe wrote: > Hi, > > I have done documentation for Ethereal in SGML/DocBook, but am not happy > with some of the elements I have. > > I would really love to look at your SGML, especially for the preface and > cover pages etc, so I have examples to work with. > > Is it possible to get the SGML? Sure. I'll bring you the complete sources along with the other tapes. What kind of tape? Greg -- Finger grog@lemis.com for PGP public key See complete headers for address and phone numbers To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sat Aug 19 2:49: 7 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from stage.alltel.net (stage.alltel.net [166.102.165.27]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 05FE437B422 for ; Sat, 19 Aug 2000 02:49:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail.alltel.net (mail.alltel.net [166.102.165.30]) by stage.alltel.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id EAA01775 for ; Sat, 19 Aug 2000 04:49:04 -0500 (CDT) Received: from Quetzalcoatl (h216-170-006-194.adsl.navix.net [216.170.6.194]) by mail.alltel.net (8.9.3/8.9.3/ALLTEL Internet) with SMTP id EAA04864 for ; Sat, 19 Aug 2000 04:49:03 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <000a01c009d4$4a6f51a0$0cc8a8c0@alltel.net> From: "Jerry" To: Subject: Date: Sat, 19 Aug 2000 04:54:54 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0007_01C00999.9D704200" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0007_01C00999.9D704200 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable sorry to be a jerk but its whole alpha thing has been a=20 nightmare. seems somewhere in the lit. i found that my symbios card wont boot with srm or something like that. anyway.. i have this very expensive brick if anyone=20 would like to buy it. thanks jerry ------=_NextPart_000_0007_01C00999.9D704200 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
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------=_NextPart_000_0007_01C00999.9D704200-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sat Aug 19 9:12:56 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from emu.prod.itd.earthlink.net (emu.prod.itd.earthlink.net [207.217.121.31]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2C10537B423 for ; Sat, 19 Aug 2000 09:12:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rod.darktech.org (ip91.cambridge2.ma.pub-ip.psi.net [38.32.112.91]) by emu.prod.itd.earthlink.net (8.9.3-EL_1_3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA07837; Sat, 19 Aug 2000 09:12:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from eogren@localhost) by rod.darktech.org (8.10.1/8.9.3) id e7JHCU800655; Sat, 19 Aug 2000 13:12:30 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from eogren) Date: Sat, 19 Aug 2000 13:12:30 -0400 From: Eric Ogren To: nyy Cc: doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: download doc? Message-ID: <20000819131230.A402@earthlink.net> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0i In-Reply-To: ; from nyy@tm.net.my on Sat, Aug 19, 2000 at 10:56:17AM +0800 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi there- The handbook can be found in a number of different formats (PS, PDF, HTML, txt, etc) in ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/doc/handbook. Eric On Sat, Aug 19, 2000 at 10:56:17AM +0800, nyy wrote: > Dear Sir, > Where can i downoad the doc for FreeBSD HandBook ? > > Ng To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sat Aug 19 12:50: 7 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8C6E937B43C for ; Sat, 19 Aug 2000 12:50:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) id MAA34104; Sat, 19 Aug 2000 12:50:05 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix, from userid 32767) id B162437B424; Sat, 19 Aug 2000 12:42:57 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <20000819194257.B162437B424@hub.freebsd.org> Date: Sat, 19 Aug 2000 12:42:57 -0700 (PDT) From: bigotfo@bigfoot.com To: freebsd-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.org X-Send-Pr-Version: www-1.0 Subject: docs/20721: typo in /tutorials/dialup-firewall/article.html Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org >Number: 20721 >Category: docs >Synopsis: typo in /tutorials/dialup-firewall/article.html >Confidential: no >Severity: non-critical >Priority: low >Responsible: freebsd-doc >State: open >Quarter: >Keywords: >Date-Required: >Class: doc-bug >Submitter-Id: current-users >Arrival-Date: Sat Aug 19 12:50:05 PDT 2000 >Closed-Date: >Last-Modified: >Originator: John Murphy >Release: 4.1 thanks. >Organization: >Environment: >Description: http://www.freebsd.org/tutorials/dialup-firewall/article.html minor typo Section 4 If so, remove the ppp_nat="YES" line. You will also need to remove any nat enable yes or alias enable yes in /etc/ppp/ppp/conf. ^? >How-To-Repeat: >Fix: >Release-Note: >Audit-Trail: >Unformatted: To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sat Aug 19 13:51:52 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4E52737B422; Sat, 19 Aug 2000 13:51:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from ben@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) id NAA41189; Sat, 19 Aug 2000 13:51:51 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ben@FreeBSD.org) Date: Sat, 19 Aug 2000 13:51:51 -0700 (PDT) From: Message-Id: <200008192051.NAA41189@freefall.freebsd.org> To: bigotfo@bigfoot.com, ben@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: docs/20721: typo in /tutorials/dialup-firewall/article.html Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Synopsis: typo in /tutorials/dialup-firewall/article.html State-Changed-From-To: open->closed State-Changed-By: ben State-Changed-When: Sat Aug 19 21:51:30 BST 2000 State-Changed-Why: Committed, thanks! http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=20721 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sat Aug 19 18:48: 8 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from phoenix.welearn.com.au (phoenix.welearn.com.au [139.130.44.81]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 236FA37B43C for ; Sat, 19 Aug 2000 18:48:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from jon@localhost) by phoenix.welearn.com.au (8.9.3/8.9.3) id SAA88691 for freebsd-doc@freebsd.org; Sat, 19 Aug 2000 18:54:14 +1000 (EST) (envelope-from jon) Date: Sat, 19 Aug 2000 18:54:10 +1000 From: Jonathan Michaels To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Subject: setting up to produce documentation Message-ID: <20000819185408.A88564@phoenix.welearn.com.au> Reply-To: jlm@welearn.com.au Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.4i Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org all, i'm getting to a stage where i might be considering doing some writing .. i'm hoping to find a tolerant soul out their (i have dyslexia and significantly impeared learning faculties) but in an earlier life i was a tolerably good systems analyst and business consultant making a fair to goodly living from my meager skills. i understand how freebsd works, but i'll be damned if i can work out out to construct the machine that will produce printed documentation. currently i have several printers, a fujitsu dl 2400 (no single sheet feeder, they are still available i think, maybe one day). and a gothic styled epson epj-200 (not sure about the alpha part of the designation, it is a ???-200, i will handle multiple sheets (a3 and a4, installed) does only black ink and has 500 kb inboard memory, it screws up the print (stop's where the page ran out of memory and form feed to the same place on the following page and continues where it left off, weird) it can pretend to be a HP lazerjet II, or an apple laserjet IIplus .. not sure about postscript) the epson has passible letter quality for a ink-jet while the fujitsu will make 5 copies (multiple carbons) as good as some of the old daisy wheels we used to use for executive letter head at the last contract i had. but, this requires bit mapped images to be sent to the printer, or to access the inboard fonts (will do double high and double wide as well as the standard stuff and courier and times roman and some other fancy stuff that was really fancy for a 24 pin dot-matrix at the time. sorry, i get carried away when i brag about my old fujitsu, its almost as good as a real printer and definitely better than most of those toy "laser-jet-alike" printers pretending to be 2400 dpi typographic machines. anyway, looking forward to you replies off list, please. i've tried to set this up several times and only manage to get frustrated and even more confused. i'm not use what software is required and more confused about what order things need to be done in and how to process to finished product. with regards and appreciation for your help. jonathan l -- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sat Aug 19 19:57:50 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from supernova.dimensional.com (supernova.dimensional.com [206.124.0.11]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BFC9237B423 for ; Sat, 19 Aug 2000 19:57:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: from creator (0@flatland.dimensional.com [206.124.0.24]) by supernova.dimensional.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id UAA27614 for ; Sat, 19 Aug 2000 20:57:45 -0600 (MDT) Message-ID: <000701c00a52$6a793be0$14fa90cc@intersols.com> Reply-To: "Dinesh Punjabi" From: "Dinesh Punjabi" To: Subject: 18.4.7. Update /etc (this section is very confusing) Date: Sat, 19 Aug 2000 20:57:26 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I am referring to the handbook http://www.freebsd.org/handbook/makeworld.html, specifically section 18.4.7. Maybe I am dumb, but this section has me in knots. Has this been translated from Japanse or Chinese ? It needs to be rewritten! Thanks for your help, good job overall! Dinesh To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sat Aug 19 22: 8:10 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from scientia.demon.co.uk (scientia.demon.co.uk [212.228.14.13]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E265B37B42C for ; Sat, 19 Aug 2000 22:08:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: from strontium.scientia.demon.co.uk ([192.168.91.36] ident=root) by scientia.demon.co.uk with esmtp (Exim 3.16 #1) id 13QLtq-000D0c-00; Sun, 20 Aug 2000 04:35:54 +0100 Received: (from ben@localhost) by strontium.scientia.demon.co.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id EAA13606; Sun, 20 Aug 2000 04:35:54 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from ben) Date: Sun, 20 Aug 2000 04:35:54 +0100 From: Ben Smithurst To: Dinesh Punjabi Cc: doc@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: 18.4.7. Update /etc (this section is very confusing) Message-ID: <20000820043554.Q58928@strontium.scientia.demon.co.uk> References: <000701c00a52$6a793be0$14fa90cc@intersols.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2i In-Reply-To: <000701c00a52$6a793be0$14fa90cc@intersols.com> Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Dinesh Punjabi wrote: > Maybe I am dumb, but this section has me in knots. Well, you'll need to be a bit more precise about what's confusing you if you want it fixed. > It needs to be rewritten! Probably. I'm not sure why it doesn't mention mergemaster(8) at all. If you just ignore that section completely, and instead just read the manual page for "mergemaster", that may be a better option until the handbook is updated to mention mergemaster. -- Ben Smithurst / ben@FreeBSD.org / PGP: 0x99392F7D FreeBSD Documentation Project / To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message