From owner-freebsd-emulation Sun May 14 6:13:16 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-emulation@freebsd.org Received: from oxygen.yy.ics.keio.ac.jp (oxygen.yy.ics.keio.ac.jp [131.113.47.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5192537BBD3; Sun, 14 May 2000 06:13:11 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from sanpei@sanpei.org) Received: from lavender.yy.cs.keio.ac.jp (ppp146.dialup.st.keio.ac.jp [131.113.27.146]) by oxygen.yy.ics.keio.ac.jp (8.9.3+3.2W/3.7W) with ESMTP id WAA07067; Sun, 14 May 2000 22:13:08 +0900 (JST) (envelope-from sanpei@sanpei.org) Received: (from sanpei@localhost) by lavender.yy.cs.keio.ac.jp (8.9.3/3.7W) id WAA06769; Sun, 14 May 2000 22:13:10 +0900 (JST) Date: Sun, 14 May 2000 22:13:10 +0900 (JST) Message-Id: <200005141313.WAA06769@lavender.yy.cs.keio.ac.jp> To: ports@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-emulation@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Exec format error: vmware2-2.0.476 and -CURRENT In-Reply-To: Your message of "Fri, 12 May 2000 12:45:18 JST". <864s845t4h.wl@waterblue.imgsrc.co.jp> From: sanpei@sanpei.org (MIHIRA Yoshiro) X-Mailer: mnews [version 1.21] 1997-12/23(Tue) Sender: owner-freebsd-emulation@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org kuriyama@FreeBSD.ORG wrote: >> At 11 May 2000 14:42:37 GMT, >> Kentaro Inagaki wrote: >> > Not in post-extract, it is in post-patch. >> > Please use the following patches. >> >> Fixed on my box! Thanks! I also fixed this problem, Thanks! MIHIRA Yoshiro Yokohama, Japan. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-emulation" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-emulation Mon May 15 13:59:42 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-emulation@freebsd.org Received: from guardian.sftw.com (guardian.sftw.com [209.157.37.25]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4C68537B634 for ; Mon, 15 May 2000 13:59:38 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nsayer@sftw.com) Received: from yoda.sftw.com (yoda.sftw.com [209.157.37.211]) by guardian.sftw.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA47164; Mon, 15 May 2000 13:59:31 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nsayer@sftw.com) Received: from sftw.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by yoda.sftw.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA03868; Mon, 15 May 2000 13:59:30 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nsayer@sftw.com) Message-ID: <39206532.7B211CCE@sftw.com> Date: Mon, 15 May 2000 13:59:30 -0700 From: Nick Sayer Reply-To: nsayer@freebsd.org X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.72 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.2.12 i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-emulation@freebsd.org Cc: "David W. Chapman Jr." Subject: Re: FreeBSD Port: vmware2-2.0.476 References: <009001bfbd1e$1f76a140$931576d8@inethouston.net> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------5AFECC938EBB5F4B1034434D" Sender: owner-freebsd-emulation@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org --------------5AFECC938EBB5F4B1034434D Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit "David W. Chapman Jr." wrote: > I was wondering if support for windows98/95 would be good enough to > run them out of safe mode in the near future? Also I have to manually > mount the linux procfs manually with the current port of version2, is > that normal or is it a bug? It also seems a bit slow, which is > understandable and I'm still amazed that you can run another operating > system like windows inside freebsd and linux, but I heard some people > say that they didn't notice the speed difference. BTW, I get abort > traps when I try to put it into full screen mode. Huh? I run win98 for _real_ under vmware and don't have any trouble. Full screen mode will never work. Don't do it. The linux procfs is a separate port (at least for RELENG_4 as of now). P.s. Something changed between 4/30 and now that required me to rebuild the vmware, rtc and linprocfs ports to get vmware to work again. The first network access resulted in a (host) page fault crash. Just another reminder that when you cvsup, build the world and the kernel, you should rebuild all the modules (some of which may be in ports) too. --------------5AFECC938EBB5F4B1034434D Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit "David W. Chapman Jr." wrote:
I was wondering if support for windows98/95 would be good enough to run them out of safe mode in the near future?  Also I have to manually mount the linux procfs manually with the current port of version2, is that normal or is it a bug?  It also seems a bit slow, which is understandable and I'm still amazed that you can run another operating system like windows inside freebsd and linux, but I heard some people say that they didn't notice the speed difference.  BTW, I get abort traps when I try to put it into full screen mode.


Huh? I run win98 for _real_ under vmware and don't have any trouble.

Full screen mode will never work. Don't do it.

The linux procfs is a separate port (at least for RELENG_4 as of now).

P.s. Something changed between 4/30 and now that required me to rebuild the vmware, rtc and linprocfs ports
to get vmware to work again. The first network access resulted in a (host) page fault crash. Just another
reminder that when you cvsup, build the world and the kernel, you should rebuild all the modules (some of
which may be in ports) too.
  --------------5AFECC938EBB5F4B1034434D-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-emulation" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-emulation Mon May 15 16: 5:14 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-emulation@freebsd.org Received: from mail.interniq.org (mail.interniq.org [207.174.139.135]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BD4AB37B911; Mon, 15 May 2000 16:04:57 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from emre@interniq.org) Received: from interniq.org (adsl-78-214-169.bhm.bellsouth.net [216.78.214.169]) by mail.interniq.org (1.3.3.7/1.3.3.7) with ESMTP id HAA22785; Mon, 15 May 2000 07:05:30 -0600 Message-ID: <39209F4C.F10440A3@interniq.org> Date: Mon, 15 May 2000 20:07:24 -0500 From: emre X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.72 [en] (X11; I; Linux 2.2.12 i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-emulation@freebsd.org, freebsd-current@freebsd.org Subject: linux-flashplugin...no sound? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-emulation@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi, This is really not that important and in case it doesn't work or if there is no solution for this, I'll live :) I'm running FreeBSD 5.0-20000419-CURRENT on i386, and I'm using the ports from whatever date I installed the system. Linux emulation and all that stuff works fine (I had a problem with real player which is fixed now). I installed the macromedia flash plugin for Linux and I am also using the Linux version of Communicator (with no problems by the way). The flash plugin also seems to do its job, with one exception: there is no sound. I've made sure that there is no other application using the sound device (/dev/dsp0?) and my sound works with other apps (like MP3), but not when I try to view sound-enables flash sites. The flash animations and such work, just not the sound :( Is there a way I can make it work (or is it even possible)? Thanks for your time... (PS please e-mail me in private, im not on the lists) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-emulation" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-emulation Mon May 15 16:18:19 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-emulation@freebsd.org Received: from field.videotron.net (field.videotron.net [205.151.222.108]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7144137B91C; Mon, 15 May 2000 16:18:07 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from bmilekic@dsuper.net) Received: from modemcable009.62-201-24.mtl.mc.videotron.net ([24.201.62.9]) by field.videotron.net (Sun Internet Mail Server sims.3.5.1999.12.14.10.29.p8) with ESMTP id <0FUM000NLJCVME@field.videotron.net>; Mon, 15 May 2000 19:17:20 -0400 (EDT) Date: Mon, 15 May 2000 19:18:43 -0400 (EDT) From: Bosko Milekic Subject: Re: linux-flashplugin...no sound? In-reply-to: <39209F4C.F10440A3@interniq.org> X-Sender: bmilekic@jehovah.technokratis.com To: emre Cc: freebsd-emulation@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-emulation@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Mon, 15 May 2000, emre wrote: > Hi, > > This is really not that important and in case it doesn't work or if there > > is no solution for this, I'll live :) > > I'm running FreeBSD 5.0-20000419-CURRENT on i386, and I'm using the ports > > from whatever date I installed the system. Linux emulation and all that > > stuff works fine (I had a problem with real player which is fixed now). I > > installed the macromedia flash plugin for Linux and I am also using the > > Linux version of Communicator (with no problems by the way). > > The flash plugin also seems to do its job, with one exception: there is no > > sound. I've made sure that there is no other application using the sound > Yes, try cvsup-ing more recent sources. I re-call having problems with the linux flash plugin and sound around that date. After rebuilding a more recent world, all was well again. As I recall at least one more person having the exact same problem at the same time, I don't believe it to be an isolated case. --Bosko -- Bosko Milekic * pages.infinit.net/bmilekic/index.html * www.technokratis.com bmilekic@dsuper.net * bmilekic@technokratis.com * b.milekic@marianopolis.edu "Give a man a fish and he will eat for a day. Teach him how to fish, and he will sit in a boat and drink beer all day." To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-emulation" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-emulation Mon May 15 17:33:58 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-emulation@freebsd.org Received: from amor.wcs.uq.edu.au (amor.wcs.uq.edu.au [130.102.222.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A374037B5CF; Mon, 15 May 2000 17:33:50 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from garyr@amor.wcs.uq.edu.au) Received: (from garyr@localhost) by amor.wcs.uq.edu.au (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA09256; Tue, 16 May 2000 10:32:50 +1000 (EST) (envelope-from garyr) From: Gary Roberts Message-Id: <200005160032.KAA09256@amor.wcs.uq.edu.au> Subject: Re: rpm and WordPerfect Office 2000 In-Reply-To: <200005152346.QAA11498@freeway.dcfinc.com> from "Chad R. Larson" at "May 15, 0 04:46:56 pm" To: chad@DCFinc.com Date: Tue, 16 May 2000 10:32:49 +1000 (EST) Cc: emulation@freebsd.org, stable@freebsd.org Organisation: Well Control Australia Phone: +617 3844 0400 Fax: +617 3844 0444 Reply-To: garyr@wcs.uq.edu.au (Gary Roberts) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL38 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-emulation@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Chad R. Larson writes :- > As I recall, David Gilbert wrote: > > I must say that I'm dissapointed that I can't run it. > > This is older hat, but I've had WordPerfect 8 running on a > 2.2.8-STABLE system under Linux emulation since Dec, 1998. > > Has anyone tried to evaluate pros and cons of the various office > suites? > > 1) Applixware - native > 2) StarOffice - linux > 3) WordPerfect - linux > 4) anything - Wine > 5) ??? I notice that people on this thread have been cc'ing to `emulators' and `stable'. There doesn't seem to be an emulators list - it is `emulation' or `freebsd-emulation' according to Majordomo. This thread probably belongs on emulation so the folks there have been missing it so far. To answer Chad's question from my perspective, to capture more of the desktop rather than server market, FreeBSD needs a workable `office' solution. I was hoping staroffice might be that. I have had my secretary evaluating it with a view to weaning her off W98/Office97. Here is a summary of results. So as not to create too much of an initial shock, we installed the W98 version of staroffice about 4-6 months ago and tried to use it as much as possible. She reported that the suite was pretty much capable of all the things she needed and was fairly easy to get used to, BUT:- 1. It was slow, noticeably slower than she was used to. 2. It caused W98 to crash more frequently when she was trying to `push'. 3. She wasn't able to produce documents that our clients could open correctly under Office97. Since we send a lot of documents as email attachments, this became the killer and so we haven't moved to `phase 2' which was to install it under a decent OS which should have cured the crashes. At the moment I've basically given up - she uses W98 and I use FreeBSD. I would be very interested in other peoples experiences. Perhaps `emulation' might be the better forum to do this. Cheers, -- Gary Roberts (garyr@wcs.uq.edu.au) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-emulation" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-emulation Mon May 15 18: 1:29 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-emulation@freebsd.org Received: from freeway.dcfinc.com (cx74889-a.phnx3.az.home.com [24.1.193.157]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C7E5D37B704; Mon, 15 May 2000 18:01:21 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from chad@freeway.dcfinc.com) Received: (from chad@localhost) by freeway.dcfinc.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) id RAA11732; Mon, 15 May 2000 17:59:51 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from chad) From: "Chad R. Larson" Message-Id: <200005160059.RAA11732@freeway.dcfinc.com> Subject: Re: rpm and WordPerfect Office 2000 In-Reply-To: <200005160032.KAA09256@amor.wcs.uq.edu.au> from Gary Roberts at "May 16, 0 10:32:49 am" To: garyr@wcs.uq.edu.au Date: Mon, 15 May 2000 17:59:51 -0700 (MST) Cc: emulation@freebsd.org, stable@freebsd.org Reply-To: chad@DCFinc.com X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL40 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-emulation@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org As I recall, Gary Roberts wrote: > To answer Chad's question from my perspective, to capture more of the > desktop rather than server market, FreeBSD needs a workable `office' > solution. I was hoping staroffice might be that. I have had my secretary > evaluating it with a view to weaning her off W98/Office97. Here is a > summary of results. For what it's worth, the PTB decided on Applixware a bit over a year ago. Some fairly high-powered FreeBSDer's did the port, and you can buy a native version from the FreeBSD Mall (among other places). I had some experience with Applixware under Linux, and the word on the street is that the native FreeBSD version is much more stable, faster and generally nicer. That's why I'm eager for Sun's promised release of StarOffice under Sun's "Community Source License", so we can have a native StarOffice. I'll wager it gets noticably faster then. -crl -- Chad R. Larson (CRL15) 602-953-1392 Brother, can you paradigm? chad@dcfinc.com chad@larsons.org larson1@home.net DCF, Inc. - 14623 North 49th Place, Scottsdale, Arizona 85254-2207 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-emulation" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-emulation Mon May 15 18:57:45 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-emulation@freebsd.org Received: from mail.rpi.edu (mail.rpi.edu [128.113.100.7]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F2F5B37B534; Mon, 15 May 2000 18:57:36 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from drosih@rpi.edu) Received: from [128.113.24.47] (gilead.acs.rpi.edu [128.113.24.47]) by mail.rpi.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id VAA291928; Mon, 15 May 2000 21:57:34 -0400 Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: drosih@mail.rpi.edu Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <39206532.7B211CCE@sftw.com> References: <009001bfbd1e$1f76a140$931576d8@inethouston.net> <39206532.7B211CCE@sftw.com> Date: Mon, 15 May 2000 21:57:27 -0400 To: nsayer@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-emulation@FreeBSD.ORG From: Garance A Drosihn Subject: Re: FreeBSD Port: vmware2-2.0.476 Cc: "David W. Chapman Jr." Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" Sender: owner-freebsd-emulation@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org At 1:59 PM -0700 5/15/00, Nick Sayer wrote: >Full screen mode will never work. Don't do it. Why would it never work? Works fairly well under redhat, and freebsd is using the same XFree86 server. What does full-screen do which prohibits it from ever working under freebsd? (just wondering) --- Garance Alistair Drosehn = gad@eclipse.acs.rpi.edu Senior Systems Programmer or drosih@rpi.edu Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-emulation" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-emulation Mon May 15 20: 7:34 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-emulation@freebsd.org Received: from mail.interniq.org (mail.interniq.org [207.174.139.135]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5657937B99B; Mon, 15 May 2000 20:07:24 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from emre@interniq.org) Received: from interniq.org (adsl-78-214-169.bhm.bellsouth.net [216.78.214.169]) by mail.interniq.org (1.3.3.7/1.3.3.7) with ESMTP id LAA23288; Mon, 15 May 2000 11:07:42 -0600 Message-ID: <3920D80D.148BB07@interniq.org> Date: Tue, 16 May 2000 00:09:33 -0500 From: emre X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.72 [en] (X11; I; Linux 2.2.12 i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Bosko Milekic , freebsd-emulation@freebsd.org, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: linux-flashplugin...no sound? References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-emulation@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Bosko Milekic wrote: > > Yes, try cvsup-ing more recent sources. I re-call having problems > with the linux flash plugin and sound around that date. After rebuilding > a more recent world, all was well again. As I recall at least one more > person having the exact same problem at the same time, I don't believe it > to be an isolated case. > I will rebuild my system tomorrow after I cvs-up. I hope this fixes it... :-\ -- DSS/DH cryptographic KeyID: 0x69C2B37B (PGP5) | http://ozone.dhs.org Key fingerprint = 4FAF 6F70 B407 08AE 86EF AC0E 130E 932C 69C2 B37B System Uptime: up 4 days, 21:37, load average: 0.05 0.07 0.08 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-emulation" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-emulation Mon May 15 20:15:18 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-emulation@freebsd.org Received: from thelab.hub.org (nat200.34.mpoweredpc.net [142.177.200.34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D905F37BA2B; Mon, 15 May 2000 20:15:10 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from scrappy@hub.org) Received: from localhost (scrappy@localhost) by thelab.hub.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id AAA91824; Tue, 16 May 2000 00:14:27 -0300 (ADT) (envelope-from scrappy@hub.org) X-Authentication-Warning: thelab.hub.org: scrappy owned process doing -bs Date: Tue, 16 May 2000 00:14:27 -0300 (ADT) From: The Hermit Hacker To: Garance A Drosihn Cc: nsayer@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-emulation@FreeBSD.ORG, "David W. Chapman Jr." Subject: Re: FreeBSD Port: vmware2-2.0.476 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-emulation@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Even more odd, I use full screen all the time under FreeBSD nad it works well ... On Mon, 15 May 2000, Garance A Drosihn wrote: > At 1:59 PM -0700 5/15/00, Nick Sayer wrote: > >Full screen mode will never work. Don't do it. > > Why would it never work? Works fairly well under redhat, > and freebsd is using the same XFree86 server. What does > full-screen do which prohibits it from ever working under > freebsd? (just wondering) > > > --- > Garance Alistair Drosehn = gad@eclipse.acs.rpi.edu > Senior Systems Programmer or drosih@rpi.edu > Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-emulation" in the body of the message > Marc G. Fournier ICQ#7615664 IRC Nick: Scrappy Systems Administrator @ hub.org primary: scrappy@hub.org secondary: scrappy@{freebsd|postgresql}.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-emulation" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-emulation Mon May 15 20:26: 5 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-emulation@freebsd.org Received: from mail-out.visi.com (kauket.visi.com [209.98.98.22]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7073637B9E4; Mon, 15 May 2000 20:26:02 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jstock@visi.com) Received: from isis.visi.com (isis.visi.com [209.98.98.8]) by mail-out.visi.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id DD1153A1E; Mon, 15 May 2000 22:26:00 -0500 (CDT) Received: from localhost (jstock@localhost) by isis.visi.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id WAA09788; Mon, 15 May 2000 22:26:00 -0500 (CDT) X-Authentication-Warning: isis.visi.com: jstock owned process doing -bs Date: Mon, 15 May 2000 22:26:00 -0500 (CDT) From: "Jeremy L. Stock" To: The Hermit Hacker Cc: Garance A Drosihn , nsayer@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-emulation@FreeBSD.ORG, "David W. Chapman Jr." Subject: Re: FreeBSD Port: vmware2-2.0.476 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-emulation@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Tue, 16 May 2000, The Hermit Hacker wrote: > >Even more odd, I use full screen all the time under FreeBSD nad it works >well ... Yeah until you forget to ctrl-alt-esc before shutdown or an MS-DOS Prompt. I think this is what is meant when it's said not to work. Plus it doesn't work until you install the vmware-tools I believe. -- Jeremy L. Stock ICQ 46329337 Fax # 612-629-6540 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-emulation" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-emulation Mon May 15 21:27: 8 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-emulation@freebsd.org Received: from rock.ghis.net (rock.ghis.net [209.222.164.7]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 45B1B37B606; Mon, 15 May 2000 21:27:03 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from will@blackdawn.com) Received: from argon.blackdawn.com (04-076.dial.008.popsite.net [209.69.197.76]) by rock.ghis.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id VAA82407; Mon, 15 May 2000 21:26:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: by argon.blackdawn.com (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 8167A194D; Tue, 16 May 2000 00:26:16 -0400 (EDT) Date: Tue, 16 May 2000 00:26:16 -0400 From: Will Andrews To: David Gilbert Cc: chad@DCFinc.com, andrsn@ANDRSN.STANFORD.EDU, freebsd-emulation@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: rpm and WordPerfect Office 2000 Message-ID: <20000516002616.B98584@argon.blackdawn.com> References: <14624.35092.234693.852141@trooper.velocet.net> <200005152346.QAA11498@freeway.dcfinc.com> <14624.44959.656398.461558@trooper.velocet.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0.1i In-Reply-To: <14624.44959.656398.461558@trooper.velocet.net>; from dgilbert@velocet.ca on Mon, May 15, 2000 at 10:17:03PM -0400 X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 5.0-CURRENT i386 Sender: owner-freebsd-emulation@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Mon, May 15, 2000 at 10:17:03PM -0400, David Gilbert wrote: > Someone mentioned koffice? What's the spreadsheed engine? Last I > tried gnumeric, I was nonplussed. Yes, I have managed to make a port out of koffice 1.90 (KDE2 beta release). While I will admit I haven't done extensive testing, it does seem like kspread (the spreadsheet app in the koffice suite, which consists of kword, kpresenter, kspread, killustrator, and kchart) can do many things. I tried playing around with Calculus equations in it and they seem to work nicely. They also have a bunch of equations you can use (i think this capability comes from kformula, part of koffice). There's also something called "koshell" that basically serves as a wrapper to these programs and allows you to launch them from a nice window, a la Microsoft Office. I must say, it looks really nice. The KDE people are getting very close to making koffice a suitable replacement for Office, although I didn't test conversion capabilities. If people want, I could post screenshots of my KDE2 desktop with all the cool KDE2 goodies. :-) Toodles, -- Will Andrews GCS/E/S @d- s+:+>+:- a--->+++ C++ UB++++ P+ L- E--- W+++ !N !o ?K w--- ?O M+ V-- PS+ PE++ Y+ PGP+>+++ t++ 5 X++ R+ tv+ b++>++++ DI+++ D+ G++>+++ e->++++ h! r-->+++ y? To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-emulation" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-emulation Tue May 16 11:44:20 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-emulation@freebsd.org Received: from web209.mail.yahoo.com (web209.mail.yahoo.com [128.11.68.109]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 99F1A37BAC8 for ; Tue, 16 May 2000 11:44:18 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from keraba@yahoo.com) Received: (qmail 15961 invoked by uid 60001); 16 May 2000 18:44:18 -0000 Message-ID: <20000516184418.15960.qmail@web209.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [12.31.172.235] by web209.mail.yahoo.com; Tue, 16 May 2000 11:44:18 PDT Date: Tue, 16 May 2000 11:44:18 -0700 (PDT) From: Kevin Bailey Subject: linprocfs for vmware on 4.0-RELEASE To: freebsd-emulation@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-freebsd-emulation@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I understand that the latest vmware port requires the Linux proc fs support and that 4.0-STABLE has it. Is there an easy way to add it to a system with 4.0-RELEASE ? __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Send instant messages & get email alerts with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-emulation" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-emulation Tue May 16 22:58:40 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-emulation@freebsd.org Received: from quack.kfu.com (quack.kfu.com [170.1.70.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4E15837B94D for ; Tue, 16 May 2000 22:58:38 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nsayer@quack.kfu.com) Received: from icarus.kfu.com (icarus.kfu.com [170.1.70.37]) by quack.kfu.com (8.9.2/8.9.3) with ESMTP id WAA91870; Tue, 16 May 2000 22:58:36 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nsayer@quack.kfu.com) Received: from quack.kfu.com by icarus.kfu.com with ESMTP (8.9.3//ident-1.0) id WAA01125; Tue, 16 May 2000 22:58:35 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <3922350B.6719BC37@quack.kfu.com> Date: Tue, 16 May 2000 22:58:35 -0700 From: Nick Sayer X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.72 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.2.12 i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Garance A Drosihn Cc: freebsd-emulation@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD Port: vmware2-2.0.476 References: <009001bfbd1e$1f76a140$931576d8@inethouston.net> <39206532.7B211CCE@sftw.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-emulation@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Garance A Drosihn wrote: > > At 1:59 PM -0700 5/15/00, Nick Sayer wrote: > >Full screen mode will never work. Don't do it. > > Why would it never work? Works fairly well under redhat, > and freebsd is using the same XFree86 server. What does > full-screen do which prohibits it from ever working under > freebsd? (just wondering) Non-graphic full-screen modes are done with a VTY, not the X server. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-emulation" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-emulation Wed May 17 4:58:28 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-emulation@freebsd.org Received: from rhenium.btinternet.com (rhenium.btinternet.com [194.73.73.93]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A621537B774; Wed, 17 May 2000 04:58:20 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mark@ukug.uk.freebsd.org) Received: from [62.6.101.160] (helo=parish.my.domain) by protactinium with esmtp (Exim 2.05 #1) id 12rnEG-0004pP-00; Tue, 16 May 2000 20:42:09 +0100 Received: (from mark@localhost) by parish.my.domain (8.9.3/8.9.3) id TAA01259; Tue, 16 May 2000 19:51:40 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from mark) Date: Tue, 16 May 2000 19:51:40 +0100 From: Mark Ovens To: Gary Roberts Cc: chad@DCFinc.com, emulation@freebsd.org, stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: rpm and WordPerfect Office 2000 Message-ID: <20000516195140.I233@parish> References: <200005152346.QAA11498@freeway.dcfinc.com> <200005160032.KAA09256@amor.wcs.uq.edu.au> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0.1i In-Reply-To: <200005160032.KAA09256@amor.wcs.uq.edu.au>; from garyr@amor.wcs.uq.edu.au on Tue, May 16, 2000 at 10:32:49AM +1000 Organization: Total lack of Sender: owner-freebsd-emulation@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Tue, May 16, 2000 at 10:32:49AM +1000, Gary Roberts wrote: > Chad R. Larson writes :- > > > As I recall, David Gilbert wrote: > > > I must say that I'm dissapointed that I can't run it. > > > > This is older hat, but I've had WordPerfect 8 running on a > > 2.2.8-STABLE system under Linux emulation since Dec, 1998. > > > > Has anyone tried to evaluate pros and cons of the various office > > suites? > > > > 1) Applixware - native > > 2) StarOffice - linux > > 3) WordPerfect - linux > > 4) anything - Wine > > 5) ??? > > I notice that people on this thread have been cc'ing to `emulators' and > `stable'. There doesn't seem to be an emulators list - it is `emulation' > or `freebsd-emulation' according to Majordomo. This thread probably > belongs on emulation so the folks there have been missing it so far. > > To answer Chad's question from my perspective, to capture more of the > desktop rather than server market, FreeBSD needs a workable `office' > solution. I was hoping staroffice might be that. I have had my secretary > evaluating it with a view to weaning her off W98/Office97. Here is a > summary of results. > > So as not to create too much of an initial shock, we installed the W98 > version of staroffice about 4-6 months ago and tried to use it as much > as possible. She reported that the suite was pretty much capable of all > the things she needed and was fairly easy to get used to, BUT:- > > 1. It was slow, noticeably slower than she was used to. > 2. It caused W98 to crash more frequently when she was trying to `push'. > 3. She wasn't able to produce documents that our clients could open > correctly under Office97. Since we send a lot of documents as email > attachments, this became the killer and so we haven't moved to > `phase 2' which was to install it under a decent OS which should have > cured the crashes. > > At the moment I've basically given up - she uses W98 and I use FreeBSD. > I would be very interested in other peoples experiences. Perhaps > `emulation' might be the better forum to do this. > I try to use it at work (under NT) but it can't handle "forms" in Word docs properly, which is a problem. OTOH, it does a better job of exporting Expel spreadsheets to HTML than Expel 97 does :) > Cheers, > -- > Gary Roberts (garyr@wcs.uq.edu.au) > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message -- ...and on the eighth day God created UNIX ________________________________________________________________ FreeBSD - The Power To Serve http://www.freebsd.org My Webpage http://ukug.uk.freebsd.org/~mark/ mailto:mark@ukug.uk.freebsd.org http://www.radan.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-emulation" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-emulation Wed May 17 4:59:39 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-emulation@freebsd.org Received: from rhenium.btinternet.com (rhenium.btinternet.com [194.73.73.93]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8DDCA37BB7B; Wed, 17 May 2000 04:59:31 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mark@ukug.uk.freebsd.org) Received: from [62.6.101.160] (helo=parish.my.domain) by neodymium with esmtp (Exim 2.05 #1) id 12rnGG-0000lV-00; Tue, 16 May 2000 20:44:13 +0100 Received: (from mark@localhost) by parish.my.domain (8.9.3/8.9.3) id TAA01259; Tue, 16 May 2000 19:51:40 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from mark) Date: Tue, 16 May 2000 19:51:40 +0100 From: Mark Ovens To: Gary Roberts Cc: chad@DCFinc.com, emulation@freebsd.org, stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: rpm and WordPerfect Office 2000 Message-ID: <20000516195140.I233@parish> References: <200005152346.QAA11498@freeway.dcfinc.com> <200005160032.KAA09256@amor.wcs.uq.edu.au> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0.1i In-Reply-To: <200005160032.KAA09256@amor.wcs.uq.edu.au>; from garyr@amor.wcs.uq.edu.au on Tue, May 16, 2000 at 10:32:49AM +1000 Organization: Total lack of Sender: owner-freebsd-emulation@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Tue, May 16, 2000 at 10:32:49AM +1000, Gary Roberts wrote: > Chad R. Larson writes :- > > > As I recall, David Gilbert wrote: > > > I must say that I'm dissapointed that I can't run it. > > > > This is older hat, but I've had WordPerfect 8 running on a > > 2.2.8-STABLE system under Linux emulation since Dec, 1998. > > > > Has anyone tried to evaluate pros and cons of the various office > > suites? > > > > 1) Applixware - native > > 2) StarOffice - linux > > 3) WordPerfect - linux > > 4) anything - Wine > > 5) ??? > > I notice that people on this thread have been cc'ing to `emulators' and > `stable'. There doesn't seem to be an emulators list - it is `emulation' > or `freebsd-emulation' according to Majordomo. This thread probably > belongs on emulation so the folks there have been missing it so far. > > To answer Chad's question from my perspective, to capture more of the > desktop rather than server market, FreeBSD needs a workable `office' > solution. I was hoping staroffice might be that. I have had my secretary > evaluating it with a view to weaning her off W98/Office97. Here is a > summary of results. > > So as not to create too much of an initial shock, we installed the W98 > version of staroffice about 4-6 months ago and tried to use it as much > as possible. She reported that the suite was pretty much capable of all > the things she needed and was fairly easy to get used to, BUT:- > > 1. It was slow, noticeably slower than she was used to. > 2. It caused W98 to crash more frequently when she was trying to `push'. > 3. She wasn't able to produce documents that our clients could open > correctly under Office97. Since we send a lot of documents as email > attachments, this became the killer and so we haven't moved to > `phase 2' which was to install it under a decent OS which should have > cured the crashes. > > At the moment I've basically given up - she uses W98 and I use FreeBSD. > I would be very interested in other peoples experiences. Perhaps > `emulation' might be the better forum to do this. > I try to use it at work (under NT) but it can't handle "forms" in Word docs properly, which is a problem. OTOH, it does a better job of exporting Expel spreadsheets to HTML than Expel 97 does :) > Cheers, > -- > Gary Roberts (garyr@wcs.uq.edu.au) > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message -- ...and on the eighth day God created UNIX ________________________________________________________________ FreeBSD - The Power To Serve http://www.freebsd.org My Webpage http://ukug.uk.freebsd.org/~mark/ mailto:mark@ukug.uk.freebsd.org http://www.radan.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-emulation" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-emulation Wed May 17 6:45:44 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-emulation@freebsd.org Received: from jasper.heartland.ab.ca (jasper.heartland.ab.ca [207.107.228.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1274737B562; Wed, 17 May 2000 06:45:34 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dkwiebe@hagenhomes.com) Received: from hagenhomes.com (dyn107.heartland.ab.ca [207.107.228.107]) by jasper.heartland.ab.ca (8.9.0/8.9.0) with ESMTP id HAA28114; Wed, 17 May 2000 07:08:15 -0600 (MDT) Message-ID: <3922A1B3.368FC0AA@hagenhomes.com> Date: Wed, 17 May 2000 07:42:11 -0600 From: Darren Wiebe X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Mark Ovens Cc: Gary Roberts , chad@DCFinc.com, emulation@FreeBSD.ORG, stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: rpm and WordPerfect Office 2000 References: <200005152346.QAA11498@freeway.dcfinc.com> <200005160032.KAA09256@amor.wcs.uq.edu.au> <20000516195140.I233@parish> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-emulation@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Mark Ovens wrote: > On Tue, May 16, 2000 at 10:32:49AM +1000, Gary Roberts wrote: > > Chad R. Larson writes :- > > > > > As I recall, David Gilbert wrote: > > > > I must say that I'm dissapointed that I can't run it. > > > > > > This is older hat, but I've had WordPerfect 8 running on a > > > 2.2.8-STABLE system under Linux emulation since Dec, 1998. > > > > > > Has anyone tried to evaluate pros and cons of the various office > > > suites? > > > > > > 1) Applixware - native > > > 2) StarOffice - linux > > > 3) WordPerfect - linux > > > 4) anything - Wine > > > 5) ??? > > > > I notice that people on this thread have been cc'ing to `emulators' and > > `stable'. There doesn't seem to be an emulators list - it is `emulation' > > or `freebsd-emulation' according to Majordomo. This thread probably > > belongs on emulation so the folks there have been missing it so far. > > > > To answer Chad's question from my perspective, to capture more of the > > desktop rather than server market, FreeBSD needs a workable `office' > > solution. I was hoping staroffice might be that. I have had my secretary > > evaluating it with a view to weaning her off W98/Office97. Here is a > > summary of results. > > > > So as not to create too much of an initial shock, we installed the W98 > > version of staroffice about 4-6 months ago and tried to use it as much > > as possible. She reported that the suite was pretty much capable of all > > the things she needed and was fairly easy to get used to, BUT:- > > > > 1. It was slow, noticeably slower than she was used to. > > 2. It caused W98 to crash more frequently when she was trying to `push'. > > 3. She wasn't able to produce documents that our clients could open > > correctly under Office97. Since we send a lot of documents as email > > attachments, this became the killer and so we haven't moved to > > `phase 2' which was to install it under a decent OS which should have > > cured the crashes. Some of this will hopefully be taken care of after the source code is released in June. Darren Wiebe dkwiebe@hagenhomes.com > > > > > At the moment I've basically given up - she uses W98 and I use FreeBSD. > > I would be very interested in other peoples experiences. Perhaps > > `emulation' might be the better forum to do this. > > > > I try to use it at work (under NT) but it can't handle "forms" in Word > docs properly, which is a problem. OTOH, it does a better job of > exporting Expel spreadsheets to HTML than Expel 97 does :) > > > Cheers, > > -- > > Gary Roberts (garyr@wcs.uq.edu.au) > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message > > -- > ...and on the eighth day God created UNIX > ________________________________________________________________ > FreeBSD - The Power To Serve http://www.freebsd.org > My Webpage http://ukug.uk.freebsd.org/~mark/ > mailto:mark@ukug.uk.freebsd.org http://www.radan.com > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-emulation" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-emulation" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-emulation Wed May 17 9:55:37 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-emulation@freebsd.org Received: from guardian.sftw.com (guardian.sftw.com [209.157.37.25]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8F63337B9A4 for ; Wed, 17 May 2000 09:55:21 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nsayer@sftw.com) Received: from yoda.sftw.com (yoda.sftw.com [209.157.37.211]) by guardian.sftw.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA68668; Wed, 17 May 2000 09:55:20 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nsayer@sftw.com) Received: from sftw.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by yoda.sftw.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA12952; Wed, 17 May 2000 09:55:19 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nsayer@sftw.com) Message-ID: <3922CEF7.390EB284@sftw.com> Date: Wed, 17 May 2000 09:55:19 -0700 From: Nick Sayer X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.72 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.2.12 i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Gary Roberts Cc: freebsd-emulation@freebsd.org Subject: Re: rpm and WordPerfect Office 2000 References: <200005160032.KAA09256@amor.wcs.uq.edu.au> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-emulation@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Gary Roberts wrote: > > Has anyone tried to evaluate pros and cons of the various office > > suites? > > > > 1) Applixware - native > > 2) StarOffice - linux > > 3) WordPerfect - linux > > 4) anything - Wine > > 5) ??? 5) anything - vmware -- I have Applixware for Linux running under the linuxulator (I bought it before it was available natively), and it's pretty good as a standalone word processor. I don't use anything else in it. The only time it annoys me is when I try and import MS documents, which invariably fall apart. But I blame Microsoft for that, since they morph the .doc format frequently to screw everyone not running Office. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-emulation" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-emulation Wed May 17 12:17:31 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-emulation@freebsd.org Received: from guardian.sftw.com (guardian.sftw.com [209.157.37.25]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 923AF37B76D for ; Wed, 17 May 2000 12:17:28 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nsayer@sftw.com) Received: from yoda.sftw.com (yoda.sftw.com [209.157.37.211]) by guardian.sftw.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA70822 for ; Wed, 17 May 2000 12:17:28 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nsayer@sftw.com) Received: from sftw.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by yoda.sftw.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA13235 for ; Wed, 17 May 2000 12:17:27 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nsayer@sftw.com) Message-ID: <3922F047.105AF407@sftw.com> Date: Wed, 17 May 2000 12:17:27 -0700 From: Nick Sayer Reply-To: nsayer@freebsd.org X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.72 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.2.12 i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-emulation@freebsd.org Subject: vmware networking: replace vmnet interface with /dev/tap? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-emulation@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org http://vtun.sourceforge.net/tun/index.html The TAP interface appears to be the solution to getting vmware bridged networking to work. Like the tun driver, tap presents a /dev/tapn device to user space. It works at the Ethernet level -- that is, you present Ethernet frames to /dev/tapn and they are given to the Ethernet input stuff. In addition, the tap driver supports bridging, which means that at long last vmware guests would have the same access to the network as their hosts. Of course, it probably wouldn't be hard to modify the vmnet module to support bridging instead. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-emulation" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-emulation Thu May 18 11:45: 5 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-emulation@freebsd.org Received: from andrsn.stanford.edu (andrsn.Stanford.EDU [171.66.112.163]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B9E4437B5C6 for ; Thu, 18 May 2000 11:45:00 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from andrsn@andrsn.stanford.edu) Received: from localhost (andrsn@localhost.stanford.edu [127.0.0.1]) by andrsn.stanford.edu (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id LAA92419 for ; Thu, 18 May 2000 11:41:09 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 18 May 2000 11:41:09 -0700 (PDT) From: Annelise Anderson To: freebsd-emulation@freebsd.org Subject: upgrading vmware FreeBSD 3.4 to 4.0-STABLE Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-emulation@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I must be missing something simple. I'm trying to upgrade 3.4 (which was originally 3.2) to 4.0-STABLE running in vmware on NT4.0ws. The drive is scsi but on boot FreeBSD has always said "changing root device to wd0s1a". The "ide" drive (image) on which FreeBSD runs is dedicated. I have done everything in accordance with /usr/src/UPDATING (the sources are May 14). I have newly created character devices for both the wd disks and ad disks. (I deleted the block devices, which may have been a mistake.) I initially tried ad0s1a in /etc/fstab but this didn't work at all, so I changed it back to wd0s1a, but left the e and f partitions ad0s1e and ad0s1f. I can't mount e and f read-write and I can't find any incantation that will mount wd0s1a or ad0s1a readable; I get a message that specified device does not match mounted device. While the mount command seems to who ad0s1e and f writable (softupdates is running), they're not. But I can mount ad0s1a on /mnt writable (so I do have access to this file system). The disklabels for ad0s1a and wd0s1a are identical except for the first line of each in a saved file, #/dev/wd0c and #/dev/ad0c. Possibly I need to relabel the disks? Annelise To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-emulation" in the body of the message