From owner-freebsd-hubs Sun Jul 2 5: 4:16 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-hubs@freebsd.org Received: from frmug.org (frmug-gw.frmug.org [193.56.58.252]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 485EF37BBD7 for ; Sun, 2 Jul 2000 05:04:12 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from roberto@keltia.freenix.fr) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by frmug.org (8.9.3/frmug-2.7/nospam) with UUCP id OAA03132; Sun, 2 Jul 2000 14:04:06 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from roberto@keltia.freenix.fr) Received: by keltia.freenix.fr (Postfix, from userid 101) id 413158880; Sun, 2 Jul 2000 02:59:18 +0200 (CEST) Date: Sun, 2 Jul 2000 02:59:18 +0200 From: Ollivier Robert To: Jean-Claude Christophe Cc: freebsd-hubs@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Mirroring freebsd Message-ID: <20000702025918.A89544@keltia.freenix.fr> References: <20000701140244.V24299@oleane.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2i In-Reply-To: <20000701140244.V24299@oleane.net>; from jch@oleane.net on Sat, Jul 01, 2000 at 02:02:44PM +0200 X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 5.0-CURRENT/ELF AMD-K6/200 & 2x PPro/200 SMP Sender: owner-freebsd-hubs@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org According to Jean-Claude Christophe: > We (BSDfr association) would like to mirror Freebsd on our > official ftp server (ftp.bsdfr.org) located in France. We have for the moment {ftp?FTP2,ftp3}.fr.freebsd.org. If you want I can put you as ftp4.fr.freebsd.org. > Can you indicate me the procedure to use for this ? Do it, send a mail in this very list and ask the hostmaster for fr.freebsd.org (that is, me :)) to add you in the DNS. -- Ollivier ROBERT -=- FreeBSD: The Power to Serve! -=- roberto@keltia.freenix.fr FreeBSD keltia.freenix.fr 5.0-CURRENT #80: Sun Jun 4 22:44:19 CEST 2000 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hubs" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hubs Tue Jul 4 11:38:59 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-hubs@freebsd.org Received: from wall.polstra.com (rtrwan160.accessone.com [206.213.115.74]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 41D0337BADF; Tue, 4 Jul 2000 11:38:44 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jdp@polstra.com) Received: from vashon.polstra.com (vashon.polstra.com [206.213.73.13]) by wall.polstra.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA27760; Tue, 4 Jul 2000 11:38:43 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jdp@polstra.com) Message-ID: X-Mailer: XFMail 1.3 [p0] on FreeBSD X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Tue, 04 Jul 2000 11:38:42 -0700 (PDT) Organization: Polstra & Co., Inc. From: John Polstra To: hubs@freebsd.org Subject: HEADS UP: Crypto changes coming soon Sender: owner-freebsd-hubs@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org This announcement is primarily for FreeBSD committers, CVSup users, and mirror sites. Mark Murray will soon post a companion announcement for CTM users. As a consequence of recent relaxation in US export restrictions for cryptography software, the FreeBSD project has obtained the necessary permissions to export the crypto portions of its source tree. This is a welcome development, to say the least, and we are now ready to take advantage of it. In a nutshell, our plan is to fold the crypto files into the "src-all" and "cvs-all" collections and eliminate the "cvs-crypto" collection entirely. Just to make this is perfectly clear, we will eliminate the _collection_ only -- not the files it contains. Those files will simply become a part of "src-all" and "cvs-all". These existing crypto sub-collections: src-crypto src-eBones src-secure src-sys-crypto will remain valid and unchanged, except that they will become sub-collections of "src-all" instead of the soon-to-be-defunct "cvs-all" collection. As part of this process, the crypto files on internat.FreeBSD.org will be synchronized with the now-unrestricted files on freefall. After this step there will no longer be any differences between the files on the two machines, and internat will become just another mirror site like all the others. Neither mirror sites nor CVSup users need to do anything special to prepare for this. In fact, I strongly advise all of you to leave your supfiles unchanged until the dust has settled. When we eliminate the "cvs-crypto" collection, you will start seeing warnings from CVSup saying that collection doesn't exist. These warnings will be harmless and can safely be ignored. By that time the files which formerly belonged to "cvs-crypto" will be owned by "src-all" and "cvs-all". They won't be deleted or changed. Here is how we plan to proceed: 1. Impose an enforced freeze on all of the crypto files. 2. Synch up internat with freefall. 3. Absorb the crypto files into the "src-all" and "cvs-all" collections, and eliminate the "cvs-crypto" collection. At the same time, temporarily orphan "src-crypto", "src-eBones", "src-secure", and "src-sys-crypto" so that they are no longer treated as sub-collections of "cvs-all". This latter step will have no visible effect, except that it will temporarily suppress cvsupd's mirror mode optimization for the orphaned collections. Mirror sites may see a slight increase in load because of that, but it will last only a day or two. I don't expect the increased load to be significant, because the crypto collections are relatively small. 4. Wait 24-48 hours to make sure these changes have propagated to the mirrors. 5. Reparent "src-crypto", "src-eBones", "src-secure", and "src-sys-crypto" so that they are considered to be sub-collections of "src-all". This will cause the mirror mode optimizations to kick in again. 6. Lift the freeze. After the freeze has been lifted and the dust has settled, you may remove "cvs-crypto" from your supfiles if you wish. There is no urgency surrounding that; you'll merely get harmless warnings from your CVSup updates until you do. Finally, we will: 7. Update the cvsup-mirror port, sample supfiles, and other documentation. We planned this transition as carefully as we could, and we are confident that it will go smoothly. Should a few unforseen glitches arise, please remain calm and rest assured that we perpetrators are safe and sound in a well-concealed underground bunker where you will never find us. Your friendly source-meisters, John Polstra, Peter Wemm, and Mark Murray To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hubs" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hubs Tue Jul 4 11:55:10 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-hubs@freebsd.org Received: from wall.polstra.com (rtrwan160.accessone.com [206.213.115.74]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A78A937B59B; Tue, 4 Jul 2000 11:55:02 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jdp@polstra.com) Received: from vashon.polstra.com (vashon.polstra.com [206.213.73.13]) by wall.polstra.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA27911; Tue, 4 Jul 2000 11:55:02 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jdp@polstra.com) From: John Polstra Received: (from jdp@localhost) by vashon.polstra.com (8.9.3/8.9.1) id LAA36569; Tue, 4 Jul 2000 11:55:01 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jdp@polstra.com) Date: Tue, 4 Jul 2000 11:55:01 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <200007041855.LAA36569@vashon.polstra.com> To: hubs@freebsd.org Subject: Re: HEADS UP: Crypto changes coming soon In-Reply-To: References: Organization: Polstra & Co., Seattle, WA Sender: owner-freebsd-hubs@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Oops, Alan Edmonds pointed out a typo in my announcement: > src-crypto > src-eBones > src-secure > src-sys-crypto > > will remain valid and unchanged, except that they will become > sub-collections of "src-all" instead of the soon-to-be-defunct > "cvs-all" collection. ^^^^^^^ should say "cvs-crypto" Thanks, Alan! John -- John Polstra jdp@polstra.com John D. Polstra & Co., Inc. Seattle, Washington USA "Disappointment is a good sign of basic intelligence." -- Chögyam Trungpa To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hubs" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hubs Wed Jul 5 12:26: 1 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-hubs@freebsd.org Received: from opus.cts.cwu.edu (opus.cts.cwu.edu [198.104.92.71]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9130E37B997 for ; Wed, 5 Jul 2000 12:25:57 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from skynyrd@opus.cts.cwu.edu) Received: from localhost (skynyrd@localhost) by opus.cts.cwu.edu (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id MAA80058 for ; Wed, 5 Jul 2000 12:25:56 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 5 Jul 2000 12:25:56 -0700 (PDT) From: Chris Timmons To: hubs@freebsd.org Subject: cvsup.freebsd.org outage 7/7 - 7/9 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-hubs@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org cvsup.freebsd.org will be unreachable from approximately 23:30 UTC on Friday, July 7 until the wee hours of the morning UTC on Monday, July 10. The primary reason for the outage is a building-wide power outage in our network center; however, if there is time I will transition the server to its new hardware which should put some of the zip back into people's updates :) -Chris To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hubs" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hubs Wed Jul 5 14:41:38 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-hubs@freebsd.org Received: from alcanet.com.au (mail.alcanet.com.au [203.62.196.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 43A7E37B71C for ; Wed, 5 Jul 2000 14:41:30 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jeremyp@gsmx07.alcatel.com.au) Received: by border.alcanet.com.au id <115241>; Thu, 6 Jul 2000 07:41:25 +1000 Content-return: prohibited Date: Thu, 06 Jul 2000 07:41:07 +1000 From: Peter Jeremy Subject: Re: HEADS UP: Crypto changes coming soon To: John Polstra , Mark Murray Cc: hubs@FreeBSD.ORG Message-Id: <00Jul6.074125est.115241@border.alcanet.com.au> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0i Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-freebsd-hubs@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On 2000-Jul-04 11:38:42 -0700, John Polstra wrote: >Here is how we plan to proceed: ... Are you able to provide an approximate schedule for this? In particular, when is CTM cvs-cur likely to start including the crypto bits? On Wed, 05 Jul 2000 08:48:06 +0200, Mark Murray wrote: >Code and repository files that were previously sent to you from the >International Crypto Repository will be in the way of the new files >arriving via the US CTM (or CVSUP if you use that). > >You will notice that files that are currently in your tree conflicting >with files that CTM (or CVSUP) is sending. You should back up those >crypto directories that you have, remove them from your local dir >tree and let the US CTMs replace them. Does this mean that the first cvs-cur CTM delta will include the complete crypto tree as it exists on freefall? That's the way I read Mark's announcement, but this implies a very large CTM delta (my international crypto tree is ~38MB, even compressed that's a big delta). Since John indicates that the crypto files on internat are going to become a mirror of freefall, it would seem easier to let the sync occur, turn the changes into CTM deltas (which I believe would be automatic and would effectively sync's CTM users' trees to freefall) and then further changes to the tree would appear via {src,cvs}-all. Users could manually re-organise their trees as and when they see fit. Peter To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hubs" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hubs Wed Jul 5 18:24:34 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-hubs@freebsd.org Received: from wall.polstra.com (rtrwan160.accessone.com [206.213.115.74]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D5CD137B599 for ; Wed, 5 Jul 2000 18:24:29 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jdp@polstra.com) Received: from vashon.polstra.com (vashon.polstra.com [206.213.73.13]) by wall.polstra.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id SAA05587; Wed, 5 Jul 2000 18:24:26 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jdp@polstra.com) From: John Polstra Received: (from jdp@localhost) by vashon.polstra.com (8.9.3/8.9.1) id SAA39348; Wed, 5 Jul 2000 18:24:25 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jdp@polstra.com) Date: Wed, 5 Jul 2000 18:24:25 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <200007060124.SAA39348@vashon.polstra.com> To: peter.jeremy@alcatel.com.au Subject: Re: HEADS UP: Crypto changes coming soon In-Reply-To: <00Jul6.074125est.115241@border.alcanet.com.au> References: <00Jul6.074125est.115241@border.alcanet.com.au> Organization: Polstra & Co., Seattle, WA Cc: hubs@freebsd.org Sender: owner-freebsd-hubs@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org In article <00Jul6.074125est.115241@border.alcanet.com.au>, Peter Jeremy wrote: > > Are you able to provide an approximate schedule for this? In > particular, when is CTM cvs-cur likely to start including the crypto > bits? The changes to the CVSup collections have already happened. As I mentioned in the announcement, Mark Murray is handling the CTM end of things. He will make an announcement about what to expect, if he hasn't already done so. John -- John Polstra jdp@polstra.com John D. Polstra & Co., Inc. Seattle, Washington USA "Disappointment is a good sign of basic intelligence." -- Chögyam Trungpa To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hubs" in the body of the message