From owner-freebsd-isdn Sun Aug 6 11:58:15 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isdn@freebsd.org Received: from flipworld.net (f-airlock092.esatclear.ie [194.145.135.92]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 2662B37B64C for ; Sun, 6 Aug 2000 11:57:57 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jerry@nitroweb.net) Received: (qmail 30277 invoked from network); 6 Aug 2000 19:00:49 -0000 Received: from ns.flipworld.net (HELO cygnus.nitroweb.net) (192.168.0.1) by orion.flipworld.net with SMTP; 6 Aug 2000 19:00:49 -0000 Message-Id: <4.3.2.20000806200422.00b339c8@192.168.0.3> X-Sender: nitrowebjerry@localhost (Unverified) X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 4.3 Date: Sun, 06 Aug 2000 20:04:32 +0100 To: freebsd-isdn@FreeBSD.ORG From: Jerry Walsh Subject: subscribe Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-freebsd-isdn@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org subscribe To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isdn" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isdn Sun Aug 6 14:18:35 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isdn@freebsd.org Received: from noose.gt.owl.de (noose.gt.owl.de [62.52.19.4]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E43B837BC6C for ; Sun, 6 Aug 2000 14:18:32 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dschoen@rio.gt.owl.de) Received: by noose.gt.owl.de (Postfix, from userid 10) id 74FE67F6; Sun, 6 Aug 2000 23:20:29 +0200 (CEST) Received: by rio.gt.owl.de (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 2C8F51800C; Sun, 6 Aug 2000 23:15:01 +0200 (CEST) Date: Sun, 6 Aug 2000 23:15:01 +0200 From: Dennis Schoen To: freebsd-isdn@freebsd.org Subject: subscribe freebsd-isdn Message-ID: <20000806231500.A853@rio.gt.owl.de> Reply-To: Dennis Schoen Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2i Sender: owner-freebsd-isdn@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org subscribe freebsd-isdn To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isdn" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isdn Mon Aug 7 3:19: 7 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isdn@freebsd.org Received: from slarti.muc.de (slarti.muc.de [193.149.48.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 0FDA837B5D2 for ; Mon, 7 Aug 2000 03:19:05 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jhs@jhs.muc.de) Received: (qmail 13634 invoked from network); 7 Aug 2000 09:31:54 -0000 Received: from jhs.muc.de (HELO park.jhs.no?domain) (193.149.49.84) by slarti.muc.de with SMTP; 7 Aug 2000 09:31:54 -0000 Received: from park.jhs.no_domain (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by park.jhs.no_domain (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id AAA08990; Mon, 7 Aug 2000 00:06:31 GMT (envelope-from jhs@park.jhs.no_domain) Message-Id: <200008070006.AAA08990@park.jhs.no_domain> To: Vegard Munthe Cc: freebsd-isdn@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: ADSL From: "Julian Stacey" Organization: Vector Systems Ltd - Unix & Internet consultancy X-Web: http://www.jhs.muc.de http://bim.bsn.com/~jhs/ In-reply-to: Your message of "Thu, 03 Aug 2000 17:34:23 +0200." Date: Mon, 07 Aug 2000 02:06:31 +0200 Sender: owner-freebsd-isdn@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi, Vegard Munthe wrote: > > Since ISDN and ADSL are related, I hoped someone could help me: > > Where can I find information on ADSL support for *BSD? Are there any > drivers for ADSL cards? Is it possible to set upo and ADSL router with > current *BSD software? > > -- Vegard Munthe > Copyleft Software > Tel: 22443695 In case no one else answers .. in Germany ( where most of the ISDN developers are) ADSL is supplied by Deutsche Telecom as TDSL, by a seperate (rented not purchased) box on the wall that links to your computer by 10M UTP twisted ethernet. So I guess there may not be much experience with PC bus ADSL cards (if such exist ?) I don't know for sure & don't have ADSL myself, but do know people happily using FreeBSD & NetBSD with TDSL. Julian - Julian Stacey http://bim.bsn.com/~jhs/ Munich Unix Consultant. Free BSD Unix with 3600 packages & sources. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isdn" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isdn Mon Aug 7 3:24:53 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isdn@freebsd.org Received: from ixori.demon.nl (ixori.demon.nl [195.11.248.5]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 19EA837B529 for ; Mon, 7 Aug 2000 03:24:48 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from bart@ixori.demon.nl) Received: from smtp-relay by ixori.demon.nl (8.9.3/8.9.2) with ESMTP id MAA06795; Mon, 7 Aug 2000 12:30:25 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from bart@ixori.demon.nl) Received: from network (intranet) by smtp-relay (Bart's intranet smtp server) Date: Mon, 7 Aug 2000 12:29:36 +0200 (CEST) From: Bart van Leeuwen To: Julian Stacey Cc: Vegard Munthe , freebsd-isdn@freebsd.org Subject: Re: ADSL In-Reply-To: <200008070006.AAA08990@park.jhs.no_domain> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isdn@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org The same seems to apply to the Netherlands. An adsl comes with a 'splitter', which connects with a utp cross cable to an ethernet card. I'd like to have a pointer to dedicated adsl cards btw, might be usefull, maybe someone out there has an url or so? Bart van Leeuwen ----------------------------------------------------------- mailto:bart@ixori.demon.nl - http://www.ixori.demon.nl/ ----------------------------------------------------------- On Mon, 7 Aug 2000, Julian Stacey wrote: > Hi, > Vegard Munthe wrote: > > > > Since ISDN and ADSL are related, I hoped someone could help me: > > > > Where can I find information on ADSL support for *BSD? Are there any > > drivers for ADSL cards? Is it possible to set upo and ADSL router with > > current *BSD software? > > > > -- Vegard Munthe > > Copyleft Software > > Tel: 22443695 > > In case no one else answers .. in Germany ( where most of the ISDN > developers are) ADSL is supplied by Deutsche Telecom as TDSL, by a seperate > (rented not purchased) box on the wall that links to your computer by 10M UTP > twisted ethernet. So I guess there may not be much experience with PC bus ADSL > cards (if such exist ?) I don't know for sure & don't have ADSL myself, but > do know people happily using FreeBSD & NetBSD with TDSL. > > Julian > - > Julian Stacey http://bim.bsn.com/~jhs/ > Munich Unix Consultant. Free BSD Unix with 3600 packages & sources. > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isdn" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isdn" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isdn Mon Aug 7 3:31:40 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isdn@freebsd.org Received: from uni-sb.de (uni-sb.de [134.96.252.33]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CD3DD37BAAA for ; Mon, 7 Aug 2000 03:31:37 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mreckt@wjpserver.CS.Uni-SB.DE) Received: from cs.uni-sb.de (cs.uni-sb.de [134.96.252.31]) by uni-sb.de (8.11.0/2000072000) with ESMTP id MAA09005 for ; Mon, 7 Aug 2000 12:31:34 +0200 (CEST) Received: from wjpserver.cs.uni-sb.de (wjpserver.cs.uni-sb.de [134.96.247.42]) by cs.uni-sb.de (8.11.0/2000072000) with ESMTP id MAA03260 for ; Mon, 7 Aug 2000 12:31:51 +0200 (CEST) Received: from vodix.cs.uni-sb.de (vodix [134.96.247.43]) by wjpserver.cs.uni-sb.de (8.9.3/8.9.3/wjp-SVR4/1999052600) with ESMTP id MAA06252 for ; Mon, 7 Aug 2000 12:31:35 +0200 (MET DST) Received: by vodix.cs.uni-sb.de; Mon, 7 Aug 2000 12:31:34 +0200 (MET DST) Date: Mon, 7 Aug 2000 12:31:34 +0200 From: Martin Recktenwald To: freebsd-isdn@freebsd.org Subject: Re: ADSL Message-ID: <20000807123134.A3807@vodix.cs.uni-sb.de> References: <200008070006.AAA08990@park.jhs.no_domain> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.1.8i In-Reply-To: ; from bart@ixori.demon.nl on Mon, Aug 07, 2000 at 12:29:36PM +0200 Sender: owner-freebsd-isdn@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Mon, Aug 07, 2000 at 12:29:36PM +0200, Bart van Leeuwen wrote: > I'd like to have a pointer to dedicated adsl cards btw, might be usefull, > maybe someone out there has an url or so? > Have a look for example at www.efficient.com, model 3060 or 3020 or something like that. ADSL has nothing to do with ISDN. AFAIK, ATM is usually the underlying technology. Martin. -- PGP key at http://www-wjp.cs.uni-sb.de/~mreckt/keys.html To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isdn" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isdn Mon Aug 7 3:38:19 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isdn@freebsd.org Received: from ixori.demon.nl (ixori.demon.nl [195.11.248.5]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5D74C37B529 for ; Mon, 7 Aug 2000 03:38:16 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from bart@ixori.demon.nl) Received: from smtp-relay by ixori.demon.nl (8.9.3/8.9.2) with ESMTP id MAA06805; Mon, 7 Aug 2000 12:43:56 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from bart@ixori.demon.nl) Received: from network (intranet) by smtp-relay (Bart's intranet smtp server) Date: Mon, 7 Aug 2000 12:43:07 +0200 (CEST) From: Bart van Leeuwen To: Martin Recktenwald Cc: freebsd-isdn@freebsd.org Subject: Re: ADSL In-Reply-To: <20000807123134.A3807@vodix.cs.uni-sb.de> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isdn@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org hehe, true. its just that both can go over the same wire at the same time that seems to get some people confused about that. Bart van Leeuwen ----------------------------------------------------------- mailto:bart@ixori.demon.nl - http://www.ixori.demon.nl/ ----------------------------------------------------------- On Mon, 7 Aug 2000, Martin Recktenwald wrote: > On Mon, Aug 07, 2000 at 12:29:36PM +0200, Bart van Leeuwen wrote: > > I'd like to have a pointer to dedicated adsl cards btw, might be usefull, > > maybe someone out there has an url or so? > > > Have a look for example at www.efficient.com, model 3060 or 3020 or > something like that. > > ADSL has nothing to do with ISDN. AFAIK, ATM is usually the underlying > technology. > > Martin. > -- > PGP key at http://www-wjp.cs.uni-sb.de/~mreckt/keys.html > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isdn" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isdn" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isdn Mon Aug 7 3:38:45 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isdn@freebsd.org Received: from critter.freebsd.dk (flutter.freebsd.dk [212.242.40.147]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0DEB637BD79 for ; Mon, 7 Aug 2000 03:38:43 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from phk@critter.freebsd.dk) Received: from critter.freebsd.dk (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by critter.freebsd.dk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA05080; Mon, 7 Aug 2000 12:38:40 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from phk@critter.freebsd.dk) To: Martin Recktenwald Cc: freebsd-isdn@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: ADSL In-Reply-To: Your message of "Mon, 07 Aug 2000 12:31:34 +0200." <20000807123134.A3807@vodix.cs.uni-sb.de> Date: Mon, 07 Aug 2000 12:38:40 +0200 Message-ID: <5078.965644720@critter.freebsd.dk> From: Poul-Henning Kamp Sender: owner-freebsd-isdn@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org In message <20000807123134.A3807@vodix.cs.uni-sb.de>, Martin Recktenwald writes : >On Mon, Aug 07, 2000 at 12:29:36PM +0200, Bart van Leeuwen wrote: >> I'd like to have a pointer to dedicated adsl cards btw, might be usefull, >> maybe someone out there has an url or so? >> >Have a look for example at www.efficient.com, model 3060 or 3020 or >something like that. > >ADSL has nothing to do with ISDN. AFAIK, ATM is usually the underlying >technology. Well it does in that sense that 'IDSL' uses ISDN technology to carry ADSL over short distances, but slower. There is no benefit from a ISA/PCI ADSL card, unless you want to run ATM services in addition to IP. -- Poul-Henning Kamp | UNIX since Zilog Zeus 3.20 phk@FreeBSD.ORG | TCP/IP since RFC 956 FreeBSD coreteam member | BSD since 4.3-tahoe Never attribute to malice what can adequately be explained by incompetence. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isdn" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isdn Mon Aug 7 3:39:11 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isdn@freebsd.org Received: from mgw1.MEIway.com (mgw1.meiway.com [212.73.210.75]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5E89137BD79 for ; Mon, 7 Aug 2000 03:39:09 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from lconrad@Go2France.com) Received: from mail.Go2France.com (ms1.meiway.com [212.73.210.73]) by mgw1.MEIway.com (Postfix Relay Hub) with ESMTP id 3B1B56A903 for ; Mon, 7 Aug 2000 12:39:27 +0200 (CEST) Received: from sv.Go2France.com [212.73.210.79] by mail.Go2France.com with ESMTP (SMTPD32-6.04) id A21F1EF2013A; Mon, 07 Aug 2000 12:40:31 +0200 Message-Id: <4.3.2.7.2.20000807123417.02bbf3c0@mail.Go2France.com> X-Sender: lconrad%Go2France.com@mail.Go2France.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 4.3.2 Date: Mon, 07 Aug 2000 12:40:07 +0200 To: freebsd-isdn@freebsd.org From: Len Conrad Subject: Re: ADSL In-Reply-To: References: <200008070006.AAA08990@park.jhs.no_domain> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-freebsd-isdn@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org >The same seems to apply to the Netherlands. An adsl comes with a >'splitter', which connects with a utp cross cable to an ethernet card. >I'd like to have a pointer to dedicated adsl cards btw, might be usefull, >maybe someone out there has an url or so? For someone who has always disliked putting modem cards in PCs, I can't see the advantage of putting ADSL 'modems' in PCs. Isn't simpler and more immediately useful, to say nothing of reliabilty, to just hook a PC + enet card to an ADSL modem with an ethernet output? I bet most xDSL local-loop providers, world-wide, don't and won't provide an interface to their CPE other than an Ethernet interface, just like internet/cable providers do. Even if it were available, what's the advantage of plugging a xDSL loop termination card into the PC? Len http://BIND8NT.MEIway.com: ISC BIND 8.2.2 p5 installable binary for NT4 http://IMGate.MEIway.com: Build free, hi-perf, anti-spam mail gateways To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isdn" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isdn Mon Aug 7 3:51:59 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isdn@freebsd.org Received: from uni-sb.de (uni-sb.de [134.96.252.33]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E992D37B6A5 for ; Mon, 7 Aug 2000 03:51:55 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mreckt@wjpserver.CS.Uni-SB.DE) Received: from cs.uni-sb.de (cs.uni-sb.de [134.96.252.31]) by uni-sb.de (8.11.0/2000072000) with ESMTP id MAA09142; Mon, 7 Aug 2000 12:51:52 +0200 (CEST) Received: from wjpserver.cs.uni-sb.de (wjpserver.cs.uni-sb.de [134.96.247.42]) by cs.uni-sb.de (8.11.0/2000072000) with ESMTP id MAA03477; Mon, 7 Aug 2000 12:52:09 +0200 (CEST) Received: from vodix.cs.uni-sb.de (vodix [134.96.247.43]) by wjpserver.cs.uni-sb.de (8.9.3/8.9.3/wjp-SVR4/1999052600) with ESMTP id MAA06378; Mon, 7 Aug 2000 12:51:52 +0200 (MET DST) Received: by vodix.cs.uni-sb.de; Mon, 7 Aug 2000 12:51:51 +0200 (MET DST) Date: Mon, 7 Aug 2000 12:51:51 +0200 From: Martin Recktenwald To: Poul-Henning Kamp Cc: freebsd-isdn@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: ADSL Message-ID: <20000807125151.A3901@vodix.cs.uni-sb.de> References: <20000807123134.A3807@vodix.cs.uni-sb.de> <5078.965644720@critter.freebsd.dk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.1.8i In-Reply-To: <5078.965644720@critter.freebsd.dk>; from phk@critter.freebsd.dk on Mon, Aug 07, 2000 at 12:38:40PM +0200 Sender: owner-freebsd-isdn@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Mon, Aug 07, 2000 at 12:38:40PM +0200, Poul-Henning Kamp wrote: > In message <20000807123134.A3807@vodix.cs.uni-sb.de>, Martin Recktenwald writes > : > > Well it does in that sense that 'IDSL' uses ISDN technology to carry ADSL > over short distances, but slower. > I did a quick websearch for IDSL; sounds quite useless to me. And has the wrong name. ADSL is a layer 1 technology. ISDN also defines layer 1. Something like "ADSL over ISDN" doesn't seem to make sense. And it doesn't provide any serious advantage over plain ISDN. This is the first time I heard about IDSL, so I might just be plain wrong. It sounds like an always-on ISDN connection using both B channels and the D channel. > There is no benefit from a ISA/PCI ADSL card, unless you want to run > ATM services in addition to IP. It could be cheaper? In the case of ISDN, a router costs real money, an ISDN card can be bought for 50 EUR. Maybe this is not (yet) true for ADSL. Martin. -- PGP key at http://www-wjp.cs.uni-sb.de/~mreckt/keys.html To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isdn" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isdn Mon Aug 7 3:57:58 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isdn@freebsd.org Received: from critter.freebsd.dk (flutter.freebsd.dk [212.242.40.147]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2991C37B6A5 for ; Mon, 7 Aug 2000 03:57:55 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from phk@critter.freebsd.dk) Received: from critter.freebsd.dk (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by critter.freebsd.dk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA05173; Mon, 7 Aug 2000 12:57:51 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from phk@critter.freebsd.dk) To: Martin Recktenwald Cc: freebsd-isdn@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: ADSL In-Reply-To: Your message of "Mon, 07 Aug 2000 12:51:51 +0200." <20000807125151.A3901@vodix.cs.uni-sb.de> Date: Mon, 07 Aug 2000 12:57:51 +0200 Message-ID: <5171.965645871@critter.freebsd.dk> From: Poul-Henning Kamp Sender: owner-freebsd-isdn@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org In message <20000807125151.A3901@vodix.cs.uni-sb.de>, Martin Recktenwald writes : >On Mon, Aug 07, 2000 at 12:38:40PM +0200, Poul-Henning Kamp wrote: >> In message <20000807123134.A3807@vodix.cs.uni-sb.de>, Martin Recktenwald writes >> : >> >> Well it does in that sense that 'IDSL' uses ISDN technology to carry ADSL >> over short distances, but slower. >> >I did a quick websearch for IDSL; sounds quite useless to me. And has >the wrong name. ADSL is a layer 1 technology. ISDN also defines layer 1. >Something like "ADSL over ISDN" doesn't seem to make sense. > >And it doesn't provide any serious advantage over plain ISDN. Well, if you belong to the crowd who belives that "pay-per-view" and your POTS will be delivered in ATM cells in the future it does. Otherwise it's just a way to get a 144kbit/sec Internet connection without blocking a path in your switch. >This is the first time I heard about IDSL, so I might just be plain wrong. >It sounds like an always-on ISDN connection using both B channels and >the D channel. It isn't. It's ATM cells packed up using the same electrical parameters as an ISDN is packed up (2B+D == 144kbit/sec) >> There is no benefit from a ISA/PCI ADSL card, unless you want to run >> ATM services in addition to IP. > >It could be cheaper? In the case of ISDN, a router costs real money, >an ISDN card can be bought for 50 EUR. Maybe this is not (yet) true >for ADSL. It will not be cheaper. All ADSL/IDSL suppliers I have heard about gives you a "CPE" with ethernet as part of the package. -- Poul-Henning Kamp | UNIX since Zilog Zeus 3.20 phk@FreeBSD.ORG | TCP/IP since RFC 956 FreeBSD coreteam member | BSD since 4.3-tahoe Never attribute to malice what can adequately be explained by incompetence. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isdn" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isdn Mon Aug 7 4: 2:12 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isdn@freebsd.org Received: from mail.theinternet.com.au (zeus.theinternet.com.au [203.34.176.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A4AD437B6A5 for ; Mon, 7 Aug 2000 04:02:06 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from akm@mail.theinternet.com.au) Received: (from akm@localhost) by mail.theinternet.com.au (8.9.3/8.9.3) id UAA66809; Mon, 7 Aug 2000 20:56:15 +1000 (EST) (envelope-from akm) From: Andrew Kenneth Milton Message-Id: <200008071056.UAA66809@mail.theinternet.com.au> Subject: Re: ADSL In-Reply-To: <20000807125151.A3901@vodix.cs.uni-sb.de> from Martin Recktenwald at "Aug 7, 2000 12:51:51 pm" To: Martin Recktenwald Date: Mon, 7 Aug 2000 20:56:15 +1000 (EST) Cc: Poul-Henning Kamp , freebsd-isdn@FreeBSD.ORG X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL68 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isdn@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org +----[ Martin Recktenwald ]--------------------------------------------- | On Mon, Aug 07, 2000 at 12:38:40PM +0200, Poul-Henning Kamp wrote: | > In message <20000807123134.A3807@vodix.cs.uni-sb.de>, Martin Recktenwald writes | > : | > | > Well it does in that sense that 'IDSL' uses ISDN technology to carry ADSL | > over short distances, but slower. | > | I did a quick websearch for IDSL; sounds quite useless to me. And has | the wrong name. ADSL is a layer 1 technology. ISDN also defines layer 1. | Something like "ADSL over ISDN" doesn't seem to make sense. I have limited knowledge on this basically given to me by Telstra rep, who has been know to lie to me before, but, here goes... ADSL depends on DC continuity, it some places like Australia you can't get this, and so any ADSL connections are limited to your exchange (if you're lucky enough to get that). Infrastructure changes are in place here to be able to offer ADSL services (but, I really don't think this means laying copper in the street). | And it doesn't provide any serious advantage over plain ISDN. Other than giving you the ability to do ADSL to places you wouldn't normally be able to. And 2xB +D IDSL is faster than 128K ISDN (1.5M I think), so you still get a definite speed increase. -- Totally Holistic Enterprises Internet| P:+61 7 3870 0066 | Andrew Milton The Internet (Aust) Pty Ltd | F:+61 7 3870 4477 | ACN: 082 081 472 ABN: 83 082 081 472 | M:+61 416 022 411 | Carpe Daemon PO Box 837 Indooroopilly QLD 4068 |akm@theinternet.com.au| To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isdn" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isdn Mon Aug 7 6:21:25 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isdn@freebsd.org Received: from ns1.eds.ch (ns1.eds.ch [194.235.48.8]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7AFA837B78C for ; Mon, 7 Aug 2000 06:21:21 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from roberto.Nunnari@agie.ch) Received: from onyx.eds.ch (onyx.eds.ch [206.122.128.224]) by ns1.eds.ch (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA23483 for ; Mon, 7 Aug 2000 15:30:03 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from mailsrv.eds.ch (mailsrv.eds.ch [194.235.174.72] (may be forged)) by onyx.eds.ch (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA01255 for ; Mon, 7 Aug 2000 15:25:23 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from agie.ch ([198.132.159.194]) by mailsrv.eds.ch (Netscape Messaging Server 3.6) with ESMTP id AAA1383 for ; Mon, 7 Aug 2000 15:17:11 +0200 Message-ID: <398EC59E.896C67D6@agie.ch> Date: Mon, 07 Aug 2000 15:20:14 +0100 From: "Roberto Nunnari, AGIE" Organization: AGIE X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (WinNT; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: isdn@freebsd.org Subject: I'm using 2*B ??? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isdn@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi there. Now my isdn connection works like a charm and I'm happy with it. Just a few questions: - how can I know I'm really using both B channels at once for a bandwith of 128 Kb? isdntrace -bi shows B2. But the maximum transfer rate I get is 7.4 KBytes/sec - I'm using userland PPP. After some trying it seams to me that if I want an idle-timeout I can't take advantage of isdnd.rc options but must use user-ppp timeout option. Is that right? - At the beginning I had trouble with the connection dropping every 48 seconds. Using isdntrace I found out that was the NT to send the TE a disconnect message! I assumed that meant that was my ISP to disconnect. Is that right? Anyway, I went on and called my ISP. They didn't give me any feedback, but after a while the connection was no longer interrupted. It's important to me to know whether it was my fault or ISP's fault as I'm afraid I may get a high bill. When there was traffic to/from the internet my PC would make a new connection every 48 secs and the provider bills me a small amount for every successful connection. Let me know if you want some log file to examine. Best regards. -- Roberto Nunnari -software engineer- mailto:roberto.nunnari@agie.ch AGIE - http://www.agie.com Via dei pioppi 16 tel: +41-91-8069138 6616 Losone """ Switzerland (o o) =======================oOO==(_)==OOo======================== MY OPNIONS ARE NOT NECESSARELY THOSE OF MY EMPLOYER To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isdn" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isdn Mon Aug 7 8:19:54 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isdn@freebsd.org Received: from mailhost1.dircon.co.uk (mailhost1.dircon.co.uk [194.112.32.65]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 58F5E37B999 for ; Mon, 7 Aug 2000 08:19:42 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from bastet@dircon.co.uk) Received: from dircon.co.uk (webmail.dircon.net [194.112.32.35]) by mailhost1.dircon.co.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id QAA95960 for freebsd-isdn@freebsd.org; Mon, 7 Aug 2000 16:19:38 +0100 (BST) Message-Id: <200008071519.QAA95960@mailhost1.dircon.co.uk> Date: Mon, 7 Aug 2000 16:19:45 +0100 To: freebsd-isdn@freebsd.org Subject: FreeBSD and ISDN support in the UK. From: Clem Dye X-Mailer: Webmail 1.0.1 Reply-To: clem@bastet.com Sender: owner-freebsd-isdn@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org My apologies in advance if this question has been asked before, but as a list and relative FreeBSD newbie, any help would be greatly appreciated on the following. I'd like to use my FreeBSD 3.3 system here in the UK to access my ISP via my ISDN connection (which is up and running). I don't need 'phone handling etc., just the ability to bond both channels together for a 128K link on outgoing-only calls. Ideally, I'd like to use a British Telecom (BT) Speedway ISDN PCI Card. These are reasonably cheap here in the UK and work fine under Windows 9x/NT4.0 etc. I've checked-out site http://www.freebsd-support.de/i4b/ but unfortunately that didn't give me enough information as to whether the BT card was viable. I seem to recollect that the BT cards use a third-party chipset which may actually be recognised by the i4b software, but I'm having a tough time trying to identify the components used. (BT are hopeless when it comes to providing this sort of information). Has anyone got the BT Speedway ISDN PCI Card running under FreeBSD in the UK? If not, are there any other cards that I could use instead in dear old Blighty? I don't want to use Windows for my ISP access (and eventually, email handling, routing, firewall etc.) but I do seem to recollect that Linux does support the BT card (as a possible fallback), though I don't fancy Linux much either. Anyone got any advice please? TIA Regards Clem Dye To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isdn" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isdn Mon Aug 7 8:22:55 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isdn@freebsd.org Received: from post.ruh-bath.swest.nhs.uk (hide212.nhs.uk [195.107.47.212]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8F1A937B69E for ; Mon, 7 Aug 2000 08:22:49 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from rich@ruh-bath.swest.nhs.uk) Received: by post.ruh-bath.swest.nhs.uk with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) id ; Mon, 7 Aug 2000 16:22:45 +0100 Message-ID: <930BFA16390CD3119E010000F6E660C9014F780E@fear.ruh-bath.swest.nhs.uk> From: "Wood, Richard" To: "'clem@bastet.com'" , freebsd-isdn@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: RE: FreeBSD and ISDN support in the UK. Date: Mon, 7 Aug 2000 16:22:44 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-freebsd-isdn@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > -----Original Message----- > From: Clem Dye [mailto:clem@bastet.com] > Sent: 07 August 2000 16:20 >Ideally, I'd like to use a British > Telecom (BT) Speedway > ISDN PCI Card. These are reasonably cheap here in the UK and > work fine under > Windows 9x/NT4.0 etc. I've checked-out site > http://www.freebsd-support.de/i4b/ > but unfortunately that didn't give me enough information as > to whether the BT > card was viable. The BT Speedway card is a rebadged AVM Fritz!PCI and does work with i4b correctly. Rich -- Rich Wood, Systems Manager, Royal United Hospital, Bath rich@ruh-bath.swest.nhs.uk To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isdn" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isdn Mon Aug 7 8:43:49 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isdn@freebsd.org Received: from duke.tup.de (pC19EACF0.dip0.t-ipconnect.de [193.158.172.240]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3213237B965 for ; Mon, 7 Aug 2000 08:43:46 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from thor@tup.de) Received: from ontario.tup.de (ontario.tup.de [192.168.0.5]) by duke.tup.de (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA06157; Mon, 7 Aug 2000 17:43:44 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from thor@ontario.tup.de) Received: (from thor@localhost) by ontario.tup.de (8.9.3/8.9.3) id RAA00981; Mon, 7 Aug 2000 17:43:45 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from thor) Date: Mon, 7 Aug 2000 17:43:45 +0200 From: Thorsten Steentjes To: freebsd-isdn@freebsd.org Subject: UNKNOWN TEI MGMT Frame Message-ID: <20000807174345.F783@ontario.tup.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2i Sender: owner-freebsd-isdn@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hello, I'm using i4b on a FreeBSD 4.1-STABLE box. Everytime I call out with one of my ISDN-Phones, I have the following message in my syslog: /kernel: i4b-L2-i4b_tei_rx_frame: UNKNOWN TEI MGMT Frame, type = 0x1 I'm also using isdntrace as protocol analyzer with two passive ISDN cards. This feature works fine, I can see the phone numbers assigned to my TEIs and so on. Any hints? TIA Thorsten -- /* Thorsten Steentjes, Lessingstr.13, 82211 Herrsching */ /* Phone: +49 8152 398116 Mobile: +49 170 2105181 */ /* Please remember: rm -rf means "read mail -really fast" */ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isdn" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isdn Mon Aug 7 11:32:21 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isdn@freebsd.org Received: from fmdb.c3.hu (dial-031.digitel2002.hu [213.163.2.31]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id CDC5137B930 for ; Mon, 7 Aug 2000 11:32:06 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mico@bsd.hu) Received: (qmail 43696 invoked by uid 1004); 7 Aug 2000 16:40:56 -0000 Date: Mon, 7 Aug 2000 18:40:38 +0200 To: Len Conrad Subject: Re: ADSL Message-ID: <20000807184038.B67689@bsd.hu> References: <200008070006.AAA08990@park.jhs.no_domain> <4.3.2.7.2.20000807123417.02bbf3c0@mail.Go2France.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2i In-Reply-To: <4.3.2.7.2.20000807123417.02bbf3c0@mail.Go2France.com>; from lconrad@Go2France.com on Mon, Aug 07, 2000 at 12:40:07PM +0200 X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 4.0 - The Power to Serve Sender: owner-freebsd-isdn@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hello, Len Conrad : > Even if it were available, what's the advantage of plugging a xDSL loop > termination card into the PC? Maybe cost? We are using (mainly) passive ISDN cards, plugged into PC's. But we could use Cisco or whatever ISDN routers... yeah a bit more expensive. -- ______ o _. __ / / / (_(_(__(_) @ bsd.hu To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isdn" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isdn Mon Aug 7 11:43:25 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isdn@freebsd.org Received: from mgw1.MEIway.com (mgw1.meiway.com [212.73.210.75]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2B2A537B5C9 for ; Mon, 7 Aug 2000 11:43:21 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from lconrad@Go2France.com) Received: from mail.Go2France.com (ms1.meiway.com [212.73.210.73]) by mgw1.MEIway.com (Postfix Relay Hub) with ESMTP id 0AED56A903 for ; Mon, 7 Aug 2000 20:43:40 +0200 (CEST) Received: from sv.Go2France.com [212.73.210.79] by mail.Go2France.com with ESMTP (SMTPD32-6.04) id A39BCCA70080; Mon, 07 Aug 2000 20:44:43 +0200 Message-Id: <4.3.2.7.2.20000807204151.02df91f0@mail.Go2France.com> X-Sender: lconrad%Go2France.com@mail.Go2France.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 4.3.2 Date: Mon, 07 Aug 2000 20:44:01 +0200 To: freebsd-isdn@freebsd.org From: Len Conrad Subject: Re: ADSL In-Reply-To: <20000807184038.B67689@bsd.hu> References: <4.3.2.7.2.20000807123417.02bbf3c0@mail.Go2France.com> <200008070006.AAA08990@park.jhs.no_domain> <4.3.2.7.2.20000807123417.02bbf3c0@mail.Go2France.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-freebsd-isdn@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > > Even if it were available, what's the advantage of plugging a xDSL loop > > termination card into the PC? > >Maybe cost? > >We are using (mainly) passive ISDN cards, plugged into PC's. But we could >use Cisco or whatever ISDN routers... yeah a bit more expensive. Even if the DSLAM/local loop supplier would let you buy your own DSL PCI card (probably only from him, and a card available in low volume/high price), it sounds like a false economy, even in Hungary. Whatever, good luck. Len http://BIND8NT.MEIway.com: ISC BIND 8.2.2 p5 installable binary for NT4 http://IMGate.MEIway.com: Build free, hi-perf, anti-spam mail gateways To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isdn" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isdn Mon Aug 7 14:55:13 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isdn@freebsd.org Received: from devil.intervisors.nl (office.intervisors.nl [194.109.13.117]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 968BC37BBF8 for ; Mon, 7 Aug 2000 14:55:07 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from luke@roberts.nl) Received: from roberts4.roberts.nl (roberts4.intranet.iv [192.168.0.8]) by devil.intervisors.nl (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA16460 for ; Mon, 7 Aug 2000 12:33:01 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from luke@roberts.nl) Message-Id: <4.3.2.7.2.20000807122503.00d54ef0@pop.roberts.nl> X-Sender: lar@pop.roberts.nl X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 4.3.2 Date: Mon, 07 Aug 2000 12:31:00 +0200 To: freebsd-isdn@freebsd.org From: Luke Roberts Subject: Re: ADSL In-Reply-To: <200008070006.AAA08990@park.jhs.no_domain> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-freebsd-isdn@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > > Since ISDN and ADSL are related, I hoped someone could help me: > > > > Where can I find information on ADSL support for *BSD? Are there any > > drivers for ADSL cards? Is it possible to set upo and ADSL router with > > current *BSD software? another "in case nobody answers": Here in Holland ADSL is also provided through an ADSL Modem wich is hooked to an ethernet card in the PC. The modem is then connected to the splitter (whcih seperates ADSL and regular PSTN phone frequencies). However, unlike with most cable modems, that simply use TCP/IP over Ethernet, ADSL requires the PPtP package (sort of PPP over ethernet). I know there is a PPTP for LINUX package out there (which I suppose can be used with LINUX compatibility mode on BSD) but I haven't heard of a dedicated PPtP package for BSD. Cheers, Luke To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isdn" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isdn Mon Aug 7 15:15:14 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isdn@freebsd.org Received: from widukind.bi.teuto.net (widukind.bi.teuto.net [212.8.197.28]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A4AEB37B5AD for ; Mon, 7 Aug 2000 15:15:09 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from martin@rumolt.teuto.de) Received: from rumolt.teuto.de (IDENT:root@rumolt.teuto.de [212.8.203.81]) by widukind.bi.teuto.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id AAA05938; Tue, 8 Aug 2000 00:15:01 +0200 Received: (from martin@localhost) by rumolt.teuto.de (8.11.0/8.10.2) id e77MEkK01835; Tue, 8 Aug 2000 00:14:46 +0200 (MEST) From: Martin Husemann Message-Id: <200008072214.e77MEkK01835@rumolt.teuto.de> Subject: Re: ADSL In-Reply-To: <4.3.2.7.2.20000807122503.00d54ef0@pop.roberts.nl> from Luke Roberts at "Aug 7, 2000 12:31:00 pm" To: luke@roberts.nl (Luke Roberts) Date: Tue, 8 Aug 2000 00:14:46 +0200 (MEST) Cc: freebsd-isdn@FreeBSD.ORG Organization: Crusaders Catering Services Inc. ;-) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL54 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isdn@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > know there is a PPTP for LINUX package out there (which I suppose can be > used with LINUX compatibility mode on BSD) but I haven't heard of a > dedicated PPtP package for BSD. In NetBSD's pkgsrc category net there are: mouse-pppoe pptp rp-pppoe The last one (red pinguin PPP over Ethernet) was imported to deal with german TDSL provided by T-Online. Don't know if it works or what the others are (I live on the country, no TDSL until end of next year, if at all). Martin To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isdn" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isdn Mon Aug 7 21:19: 1 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isdn@freebsd.org Received: from c014.sfo.cp.net (c014-h017.c014.sfo.cp.net [209.228.12.81]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 0F70B37B5DE for ; Mon, 7 Aug 2000 21:18:59 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gharris@flashcom.net) Received: (cpmta 9636 invoked from network); 7 Aug 2000 21:18:54 -0700 Received: from d8c81e5f.dsl.flashcom.net (HELO quadrajet.flashcom.com) (216.200.30.95) by smtp.flashcom.net with SMTP; 7 Aug 2000 21:18:54 -0700 X-Sent: 8 Aug 2000 04:18:54 GMT Received: (from guy@localhost) by quadrajet.flashcom.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id VAA00565; Mon, 7 Aug 2000 21:18:53 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gharris) Date: Mon, 7 Aug 2000 21:18:53 -0700 From: Guy Harris To: Luke Roberts Cc: freebsd-isdn@freebsd.org Subject: Re: ADSL Message-ID: <20000807211853.E352@quadrajet.flashcom.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.4i Sender: owner-freebsd-isdn@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > However, unlike with most cable modems, that simply use TCP/IP over > Ethernet, ADSL requires the PPtP package (sort of PPP over ethernet). Whether it does depends on how your Internet service provider chooses to offer ADSL; mine (Flashcom, in the USA) just, as far as I know, bridges Ethernet over ATM, so I just configure (one of) the IP addresses for my Ethernet interface to be the static IP address my ISP gave me, and Internet access Just Works. I think I'm in the minority there, however. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isdn" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isdn Mon Aug 7 21:30:22 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isdn@freebsd.org Received: from c014.sfo.cp.net (c014-h001.c014.sfo.cp.net [209.228.12.65]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id EBB8337BD84 for ; Mon, 7 Aug 2000 21:30:19 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gharris@flashcom.net) Received: (cpmta 23788 invoked from network); 7 Aug 2000 21:30:19 -0700 Received: from d8c81e5f.dsl.flashcom.net (HELO quadrajet.flashcom.com) (216.200.30.95) by smtp.flashcom.net with SMTP; 7 Aug 2000 21:30:19 -0700 X-Sent: 8 Aug 2000 04:30:19 GMT Received: (from guy@localhost) by quadrajet.flashcom.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id VAA00614; Mon, 7 Aug 2000 21:30:17 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gharris) Date: Mon, 7 Aug 2000 21:30:17 -0700 From: Guy Harris To: Bart van Leeuwen Cc: freebsd-isdn@freebsd.org Subject: Re: ADSL Message-ID: <20000807213017.F352@quadrajet.flashcom.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.4i Sender: owner-freebsd-isdn@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > I'd like to have a pointer to dedicated adsl cards btw, might be > usefull, maybe someone out there has an url or so? http://www.alcatel.com/telecom/asd/keytech/adsl/adsl/modem/pc.htm "The Alcatel Speed Touch PC is an internal ADSL modem, which conveniently plugs into any desktop computer, eliminating the need for an external modem. The Speed Touch PC connects to a telephone line via a standard RJ-11 connector and fully complies to practices governing the PC world (e.g. plug 'n play). The Speed Touch PC supports DMT (Discrete Multi-Tone) modulation to ensure interoperability with service providers' DSL systems." Plugs into the PCI bus and into your phone line. (It's not what I'm using; I have an older Alcatel modem that plugs into an Ethernet connection - or can also plug into an "ATMF-25" interface, presumably getting handed ATM cells from the computer. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isdn" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isdn Tue Aug 8 3: 4: 3 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isdn@freebsd.org Received: from fmdb.c3.hu (dial-017.digitel2002.hu [213.163.2.17]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 17E8937B77D for ; Tue, 8 Aug 2000 03:03:57 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mico@bsd.hu) Received: (qmail 44539 invoked by uid 1004); 8 Aug 2000 09:53:18 -0000 From: "Miklos Niedermayer" Date: Tue, 8 Aug 2000 11:53:18 +0200 To: Len Conrad Cc: isdn@freebsd.org Subject: Re: ADSL Message-ID: <20000808115318.A69995@bsd.hu> References: <4.3.2.7.2.20000807123417.02bbf3c0@mail.Go2France.com> <200008070006.AAA08990@park.jhs.no_domain> <20000807184038.B67689@bsd.hu> <4.3.2.7.2.20000807204151.02df91f0@mail.Go2France.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2i In-Reply-To: <4.3.2.7.2.20000807204151.02df91f0@mail.Go2France.com>; from lconrad@Go2France.com on Mon, Aug 07, 2000 at 08:44:01PM +0200 X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 4.0 - The Power to Serve Sender: owner-freebsd-isdn@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hello, Len Conrad : > Even if the DSLAM/local loop supplier would let you buy your own DSL PCI > card (probably only from him, and a card available in low volume/high > price), it sounds like a false economy, even in Hungary. Well, we _had_ to buy the ISDN cards by ourselves; we had to by the _wall connector_ (RJ45) by ourselves and the TA, too. (Hungary rules...) Byex -- ______ o _. __ / / / (_(_(__(_) @ bsd.hu To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isdn" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isdn Tue Aug 8 3:12:57 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isdn@freebsd.org Received: from peedub.muc.de (peedub.muc.de [193.149.49.109]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C2EAD37B79C for ; Tue, 8 Aug 2000 03:12:54 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from garyj@peedub.muc.de) Received: from peedub.muc.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by peedub.muc.de (8.9.3/8.6.9) with ESMTP id MAA45960; Tue, 8 Aug 2000 12:11:26 +0200 (CEST) Message-Id: <200008081011.MAA45960@peedub.muc.de> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.1.1 10/15/1999 To: Thorsten Steentjes Cc: freebsd-isdn@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: UNKNOWN TEI MGMT Frame Reply-To: Gary Jennejohn In-reply-to: Your message of "Mon, 07 Aug 2000 17:43:45 +0200." <20000807174345.F783@ontario.tup.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Tue, 08 Aug 2000 12:11:26 +0200 From: Gary Jennejohn Sender: owner-freebsd-isdn@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Thorsten Steentjes writes: > Hello, > > I'm using i4b on a FreeBSD 4.1-STABLE box. Everytime I call out with one > of my ISDN-Phones, I have the following message in my syslog: > /kernel: i4b-L2-i4b_tei_rx_frame: UNKNOWN TEI MGMT Frame, type = 0x1 > I'm also using isdntrace as protocol analyzer with two passive ISDN cards. > This feature works fine, I can see the phone numbers assigned to my TEIs > and so on. > Any hints? > This is an MT_ID_REQEST which i4b doesn't expect to see as an incoming packet, therefore it isn't handled in i4b_tei_rx_frame. It's not really an error. You could always add a dummy member to the switch statement which merely does a break to eliminate the error message. --- Gary Jennejohn / garyj@muc.de gj@freebsd.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isdn" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isdn Tue Aug 8 12: 1:24 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isdn@freebsd.org Received: from mailhost1.dircon.co.uk (mailhost1.dircon.co.uk [194.112.32.65]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0D90737BA1E for ; Tue, 8 Aug 2000 12:01:18 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from clem@bastet.com) Received: from bastet.com (bastet.dircon.co.uk [194.112.47.130]) by mailhost1.dircon.co.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id UAA52763; Tue, 8 Aug 2000 20:00:30 +0100 (BST) Message-ID: <399054EF.119C27B2@bastet.com> Date: Tue, 08 Aug 2000 19:43:59 +0100 From: Clem Dye X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (WinNT; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Wood, Richard" Cc: freebsd-isdn@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: FreeBSD and ISDN support in the UK. References: <930BFA16390CD3119E010000F6E660C9014F780E@fear.ruh-bath.swest.nhs.uk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isdn@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Rich: Many thanks for the prompt reply. Windows 2000 recognises the card as something other than a BT device, but as I mentioned in my first message, I couldn't remember what it was. Are there any particular 'gotchas' to watch-out for when configuring the card under FreeBSD? My gameplan is to do the following: 1) Get my ISDN link up and running @ 128K, connected to my ISP. 2) Install routing software (no idea what to use yet) so that my two NT boxes can get access to the 'Net via the FreeBSD box. 3) Install some firewall software to stop anything nasty occurring (I plan to leave the FreeBSD box running 24x7 once I've done that lot! (Oh, not forgetting the mail stuff too!). Any tips or pointers that spring to mind would be greatly appreciated. For instance, do I need a particular release of FreeBSD? I'm currently using 3.3. Thanks and best regards Clem "Wood, Richard" wrote: > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Clem Dye [mailto:clem@bastet.com] > > Sent: 07 August 2000 16:20 > > > >Ideally, I'd like to use a British > > Telecom (BT) Speedway > > ISDN PCI Card. These are reasonably cheap here in the UK and > > work fine under > > Windows 9x/NT4.0 etc. I've checked-out site > > http://www.freebsd-support.de/i4b/ > > but unfortunately that didn't give me enough information as > > to whether the BT > > card was viable. > > > The BT Speedway card is a rebadged AVM Fritz!PCI and does work with i4b > correctly. > > Rich > -- > Rich Wood, Systems Manager, Royal United Hospital, Bath > rich@ruh-bath.swest.nhs.uk To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isdn" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isdn Tue Aug 8 12:32: 1 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isdn@freebsd.org Received: from mail1.svr.pol.co.uk (mail1.svr.pol.co.uk [195.92.193.18]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A5B4A37B714 for ; Tue, 8 Aug 2000 12:31:51 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from rich@dynamite.org) Received: from [195.92.198.123] (helo=mail17.svr.pol.co.uk) by mail1.svr.pol.co.uk with esmtp (Exim 3.13 #0) id 13MF6L-0001eS-00 for freebsd-isdn@freebsd.org; Tue, 08 Aug 2000 20:31:49 +0100 Received: from modem-22.erendis.dialup.pol.co.uk ([62.136.198.22] helo=kenny.kill-9.org.uk) by mail17.svr.pol.co.uk with esmtp (Exim 3.13 #0) id 13MF6K-000639-00 for freebsd-isdn@FreeBSD.ORG; Tue, 08 Aug 2000 20:31:48 +0100 Received: from bluescreen (bluescreen.kill-9.org.uk [192.168.1.2]) by kenny.kill-9.org.uk (Postfix) with ESMTP id 61B8F18AE; Tue, 8 Aug 2000 20:31:38 +0100 (BST) From: "Rich Wood" Organization: dynamite.org To: Clem Dye , freebsd-isdn@FreeBSD.ORG Date: Tue, 8 Aug 2000 20:31:37 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: Re: FreeBSD and ISDN support in the UK. Reply-To: rich@dynamite.org Message-ID: <39906E29.10481.10B04C30@localhost> In-reply-to: <399054EF.119C27B2@bastet.com> X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v3.12c) Sender: owner-freebsd-isdn@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On 8 Aug 2000, at 19:43, Clem Dye wrote: > Are there any particular 'gotchas' to watch-out for when configuring > the card under FreeBSD? Not that I recall, however I'm currently using a Teles card, but did use a BT/AVM card for a while and there wasn't anything tricky about it. > My gameplan is to do the following: > > 1) Get my ISDN link up and running @ 128K, connected to my ISP. No problems (provided your ISP supports 128K connections) > 2) Install routing software (no idea what to use yet) so that my two > NT boxes can get access to the 'Net via the FreeBSD box. 3) Install > some firewall software to stop anything nasty occurring (I plan to > leave the FreeBSD box running 24x7 once I've done that lot! (Oh, not > forgetting the mail stuff too!). You won't need any routing software, use user-PPP over ISDN with appropriate options for NAT. My settings are as follows (slightly edited to avoid unsightly line wraps. This is for a single-channel dial-on-demand connection. Tweak as appropriate. [rich@zippy ~]uname -sr FreeBSD 3.4-RELEASE [rich@zippy ~] [rich@zippy ~]grep ppp /etc/rc.conf # Use ppp configuration. ppp_enable="YES" # Start user-ppp (or NO). ppp_mode="auto" # Choice of "auto", "ddial", "direct" or # "dedicated". # For details see man page for ppp(8). # Default is auto. ppp_nat="YES" # Use PPP's internal network address # translation or NO. ppp_profile="freeserve" # Which profile to use from # /etc/ppp/ppp.conf. [rich@zippy ~] [rich@zippy ~]cat /etc/ppp/ppp.conf default: set log Phase Chat LCP IPCP CCP tun command set server +xxxx xxxxxxx allow users rich freeserve: set enddisc mac disable lqr set timeout 600 set lqrperiod 45 set phone 16164208452402620 set redial 3 10 set dial set login set hangup set device /dev/i4brbch0 /dev/i4brbch1 set speed sync set authname xxxxxxx set authkey xxxxxxx set ifaddr 0.0.0.0/0 0.0.0.1/0 add! default hisaddr disable pred1 deflate set cd 6 [rich@zippy ~] Most of this is modified from a config Brian Somers sent me ages ago, but should be in ppp.conf.sample and documented in the man page for ppp(8) You will also need to configure isdn, there is a sample config in /etc/isdn/isdnd.rc.sample for a user-ppp configuration. If I've missed anything I'm sure Brian will be along to correct me..... Rich -- rich@dynamite.org rich@FreeBSD.org.uk If that's what they call normal, I'd rather be insane To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isdn" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isdn Wed Aug 9 5:56:26 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isdn@freebsd.org Received: from ns1.eds.ch (ns1.eds.ch [194.235.48.8]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C85F937B590 for ; Wed, 9 Aug 2000 05:56:21 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from roberto.Nunnari@agie.ch) Received: from onyx.eds.ch (onyx.eds.ch [206.122.128.224]) by ns1.eds.ch (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA16962 for ; Wed, 9 Aug 2000 15:05:05 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from mailsrv.eds.ch (mailsrv.eds.ch [194.235.174.72] (may be forged)) by onyx.eds.ch (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA07860 for ; Wed, 9 Aug 2000 15:00:23 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from agie.ch ([198.132.159.194]) by mailsrv.eds.ch (Netscape Messaging Server 3.6) with ESMTP id AAA1FC5; Wed, 9 Aug 2000 14:52:02 +0200 Message-ID: <399162B4.83E35FB2@agie.ch> Date: Wed, 09 Aug 2000 14:55:00 +0100 From: "Roberto Nunnari, AGIE" Organization: AGIE X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (WinNT; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Miklos Niedermayer , isdn@freebsd.org Subject: Re: I'm using 2*B ??? References: <398EC59E.896C67D6@agie.ch> <20000807192311.A35587@bsd.hu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isdn@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Miklos, if I manage to use both B channels at once, what will happen if: i4b is using both B channels for the internet connection and an incoming or outgoing telephone call arrives. (there is also a telephone attached beside the FreeBSD box). Will i4b automatically release one B channel for the second call to be handled and take it again when it becames free again? Best regards. -- Roberto Nunnari -software engineer- mailto:roberto.nunnari@agie.ch AGIE - http://www.agie.com Via dei pioppi 16 tel: +41-91-8069138 6616 Losone """ Switzerland (o o) =======================oOO==(_)==OOo======================== MY OPNIONS ARE NOT NECESSARELY THOSE OF MY EMPLOYER To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isdn" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isdn Wed Aug 9 7: 4:54 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isdn@freebsd.org Received: from hcshh.hcs.de (hcshh.hcs.de [194.123.40.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 333AB37BD3B for ; Wed, 9 Aug 2000 07:04:51 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from hm@hcs.de) Received: from hcswork.hcs.de (hcswork.hcs.de [192.76.124.5]) by hcshh.hcs.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id E5E3D5D69; Wed, 9 Aug 2000 16:04:44 +0200 (CEST) Received: by hcswork.hcs.de (Postfix, from userid 200) id CE92D482C; Wed, 9 Aug 2000 16:04:44 +0200 (METDST) Subject: Re: I'm using 2*B ??? In-Reply-To: <399162B4.83E35FB2@agie.ch> from "Roberto Nunnari, AGIE" at "Aug 9, 0 02:55:00 pm" To: roberto.Nunnari@agie.ch (Roberto Nunnari AGIE) Date: Wed, 9 Aug 2000 16:04:44 +0200 (METDST) Cc: mico@bsd.hu, isdn@FreeBSD.ORG Reply-To: hm@hcs.de Organization: HCS Hanseatischer Computerservice GmbH X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL39 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 550 Message-Id: <20000809140444.CE92D482C@hcswork.hcs.de> From: hm@hcs.de (Hellmuth Michaelis) Sender: owner-freebsd-isdn@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org From the keyboard of Roberto Nunnari, AGIE: > Will i4b automatically release one B channel for the second > call to be handled and take it again when it becames free > again? i4b doesn't do this and i doubt ppp(8) does it. hellmuth -- Hellmuth Michaelis Tel +49 40 55 97 47-70 HCS Hanseatischer Computerservice GmbH Fax +49 40 55 97 47-77 Oldesloer Strasse 97-99 Mail hm [at] hcs.de D-22457 Hamburg WWW http://www.hcs.de To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isdn" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isdn Wed Aug 9 7:13:44 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isdn@freebsd.org Received: from ns1.eds.ch (ns1.eds.ch [194.235.48.8]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 97E5F37BB21 for ; Wed, 9 Aug 2000 07:13:39 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from roberto.Nunnari@agie.ch) Received: from onyx.eds.ch (onyx.eds.ch [206.122.128.224]) by ns1.eds.ch (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA18520 for ; Wed, 9 Aug 2000 16:22:22 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from mailsrv.eds.ch (mailsrv.eds.ch [194.235.174.72] (may be forged)) by onyx.eds.ch (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA12019 for ; Wed, 9 Aug 2000 16:17:41 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from agie.ch ([198.132.159.194]) by mailsrv.eds.ch (Netscape Messaging Server 3.6) with ESMTP id AAA2C49; Wed, 9 Aug 2000 16:09:03 +0200 Message-ID: <399174BE.F4A6D99C@agie.ch> Date: Wed, 09 Aug 2000 16:11:58 +0100 From: "Roberto Nunnari, AGIE" Organization: AGIE X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (WinNT; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: hm@hcs.de Cc: mico@bsd.hu, isdn@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: I'm using 2*B ??? References: <20000809140444.CE92D482C@hcswork.hcs.de> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isdn@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hellmuth Michaelis wrote: > > >From the keyboard of Roberto Nunnari, AGIE: > > > Will i4b automatically release one B channel for the second > > call to be handled and take it again when it becames free > > again? > > i4b doesn't do this and i doubt ppp(8) does it. > does that mean that the line will result busy to the second call? -- Roberto Nunnari -software engineer- mailto:roberto.nunnari@agie.ch AGIE - http://www.agie.com Via dei pioppi 16 tel: +41-91-8069138 6616 Losone """ Switzerland (o o) =======================oOO==(_)==OOo======================== MY OPNIONS ARE NOT NECESSARELY THOSE OF MY EMPLOYER To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isdn" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isdn Wed Aug 9 7:23:21 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isdn@freebsd.org Received: from hcshh.hcs.de (hcshh.hcs.de [194.123.40.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B647937BD25 for ; Wed, 9 Aug 2000 07:23:15 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from hm@hcs.de) Received: from hcswork.hcs.de (hcswork.hcs.de [192.76.124.5]) by hcshh.hcs.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id F20185D69; Wed, 9 Aug 2000 16:23:10 +0200 (CEST) Received: by hcswork.hcs.de (Postfix, from userid 200) id C1296482C; Wed, 9 Aug 2000 16:23:10 +0200 (METDST) Subject: Re: I'm using 2*B ??? In-Reply-To: <399174BE.F4A6D99C@agie.ch> from "Roberto Nunnari, AGIE" at "Aug 9, 0 04:11:58 pm" To: roberto.Nunnari@agie.ch (Roberto Nunnari AGIE) Date: Wed, 9 Aug 2000 16:23:10 +0200 (METDST) Cc: isdn@FreeBSD.ORG Reply-To: hm@hcs.de Organization: HCS Hanseatischer Computerservice GmbH X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL39 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 798 Message-Id: <20000809142310.C1296482C@hcswork.hcs.de> From: hm@hcs.de (Hellmuth Michaelis) Sender: owner-freebsd-isdn@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org From the keyboard of Roberto Nunnari, AGIE: > > > Will i4b automatically release one B channel for the second > > > call to be handled and take it again when it becames free > > > again? > > > > i4b doesn't do this and i doubt ppp(8) does it. > > does that mean that the line will result busy to the second > call? I don't know if the caller on the phone will get a busy tone but at least a phone connection can not be made in case both B-channels are in use for PPP. hellmuth -- Hellmuth Michaelis Tel +49 40 55 97 47-70 HCS Hanseatischer Computerservice GmbH Fax +49 40 55 97 47-77 Oldesloer Strasse 97-99 Mail hm [at] hcs.de D-22457 Hamburg WWW http://www.hcs.de To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isdn" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isdn Wed Aug 9 7:32: 9 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isdn@freebsd.org Received: from ns1.eds.ch (ns1.eds.ch [194.235.48.8]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C4D8137BD27 for ; Wed, 9 Aug 2000 07:32:05 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from roberto.Nunnari@agie.ch) Received: from onyx.eds.ch (onyx.eds.ch [206.122.128.224]) by ns1.eds.ch (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA18897 for ; Wed, 9 Aug 2000 16:40:47 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from mailsrv.eds.ch (mailsrv.eds.ch [194.235.174.72] (may be forged)) by onyx.eds.ch (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA12915 for ; Wed, 9 Aug 2000 16:36:06 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from agie.ch ([198.132.159.194]) by mailsrv.eds.ch (Netscape Messaging Server 3.6) with ESMTP id AAA2EEA; Wed, 9 Aug 2000 16:27:45 +0200 Message-ID: <39917921.6A360C23@agie.ch> Date: Wed, 09 Aug 2000 16:30:41 +0100 From: "Roberto Nunnari, AGIE" Organization: AGIE X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (WinNT; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: hm@hcs.de Cc: isdn@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: I'm using 2*B ??? References: <20000809142310.C1296482C@hcswork.hcs.de> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isdn@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org OK hellmuth. Thanks. By the way, is such a functionality somehow covered by the isdn standards? And if so, will i4b support it? Can anybody point me to the isdn standard documents? Best regards. -- Roberto Nunnari -software engineer- mailto:roberto.nunnari@agie.ch AGIE - http://www.agie.com Via dei pioppi 16 tel: +41-91-8069138 6616 Losone """ Switzerland (o o) =======================oOO==(_)==OOo======================== MY OPNIONS ARE NOT NECESSARELY THOSE OF MY EMPLOYER To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isdn" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isdn Wed Aug 9 7:39:15 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isdn@freebsd.org Received: from hcshh.hcs.de (hcshh.hcs.de [194.123.40.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6B7DF37BAFC for ; Wed, 9 Aug 2000 07:39:08 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from hm@hcs.de) Received: from hcswork.hcs.de (hcswork.hcs.de [192.76.124.5]) by hcshh.hcs.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 53C8E5D69; Wed, 9 Aug 2000 16:39:06 +0200 (CEST) Received: by hcswork.hcs.de (Postfix, from userid 200) id 4126F482C; Wed, 9 Aug 2000 16:39:06 +0200 (METDST) Subject: Re: I'm using 2*B ??? In-Reply-To: <39917921.6A360C23@agie.ch> from "Roberto Nunnari, AGIE" at "Aug 9, 0 04:30:41 pm" To: roberto.Nunnari@agie.ch (Roberto Nunnari AGIE) Date: Wed, 9 Aug 2000 16:39:06 +0200 (METDST) Cc: isdn@FreeBSD.ORG Reply-To: hm@hcs.de Organization: HCS Hanseatischer Computerservice GmbH X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL39 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 704 Message-Id: <20000809143906.4126F482C@hcswork.hcs.de> From: hm@hcs.de (Hellmuth Michaelis) Sender: owner-freebsd-isdn@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org From the keyboard of Roberto Nunnari, AGIE: > By the way, is such a functionality somehow covered by > the isdn standards? No, this is simply a functionality which manufacturers might want to implement or not. I know of a Cisco router (700 ?) which does implement exactly this functionality. > And if so, will i4b support it? I'll happily accept patches implementing this! hellmuth -- Hellmuth Michaelis Tel +49 40 55 97 47-70 HCS Hanseatischer Computerservice GmbH Fax +49 40 55 97 47-77 Oldesloer Strasse 97-99 Mail hm [at] hcs.de D-22457 Hamburg WWW http://www.hcs.de To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isdn" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isdn Wed Aug 9 7:51:11 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isdn@freebsd.org Received: from ns1.eds.ch (ns1.eds.ch [194.235.48.8]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C070E37BAF8 for ; Wed, 9 Aug 2000 07:51:04 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from roberto.Nunnari@agie.ch) Received: from onyx.eds.ch (onyx.eds.ch [206.122.128.224]) by ns1.eds.ch (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA19210 for ; Wed, 9 Aug 2000 16:59:48 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from mailsrv.eds.ch (mailsrv.eds.ch [194.235.174.72] (may be forged)) by onyx.eds.ch (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA13757 for ; Wed, 9 Aug 2000 16:55:07 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from agie.ch ([198.132.159.194]) by mailsrv.eds.ch (Netscape Messaging Server 3.6) with ESMTP id AAA318A; Wed, 9 Aug 2000 16:46:53 +0200 Message-ID: <39917D9D.144888C5@agie.ch> Date: Wed, 09 Aug 2000 16:49:49 +0100 From: "Roberto Nunnari, AGIE" Organization: AGIE X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (WinNT; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: hm@hcs.de Cc: isdn@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: I'm using 2*B ??? References: <20000809143906.4126F482C@hcswork.hcs.de> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isdn@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hellmuth Michaelis wrote: > > >From the keyboard of Roberto Nunnari, AGIE: > > > By the way, is such a functionality somehow covered by > > the isdn standards? > > No, this is simply a functionality which manufacturers might want > to implement or not. > > I know of a Cisco router (700 ?) which does implement exactly this > functionality. > > > And if so, will i4b support it? > > I'll happily accept patches implementing this! > I may be trying that. But first of all I'd need a bunch of documents describing the isdn protocol and possibly some hint/insider view on the general architecture of i4b and possible ways of implementing it. -- Roberto Nunnari -software engineer- mailto:roberto.nunnari@agie.ch AGIE - http://www.agie.com Via dei pioppi 16 tel: +41-91-8069138 6616 Losone """ Switzerland (o o) =======================oOO==(_)==OOo======================== MY OPNIONS ARE NOT NECESSARELY THOSE OF MY EMPLOYER To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isdn" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isdn Wed Aug 9 8:14:46 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isdn@freebsd.org Received: from mail.atrada.de (mail.atrada.de [212.118.32.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AA9AE37BDD6 for ; Wed, 9 Aug 2000 08:14:39 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from chn@intego.de) Received: from ep075.intego.de (www.zeitschriftenarchiv.de [212.118.38.30]) by mail.atrada.de (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA94327; Wed, 9 Aug 2000 17:14:34 +0200 (CEST) Received: from intego.de (localhost.intego.de [127.0.0.1]) by ep075.intego.de (8.9.3/8.9.2) with ESMTP id RAA36534; Wed, 9 Aug 2000 17:14:04 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from chn@ep075.intego.de) Message-Id: <200008091514.RAA36534@ep075.intego.de> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.1.1 10/15/1999 To: "Roberto Nunnari, AGIE" Cc: hm@hcs.de, isdn@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: I'm using 2*B ??? In-Reply-To: Message from "Roberto Nunnari, AGIE" of "Wed, 09 Aug 2000 16:49:49 BST." <39917D9D.144888C5@agie.ch> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Wed, 09 Aug 2000 17:14:03 +0200 From: Christian Haan Sender: owner-freebsd-isdn@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > Hellmuth Michaelis wrote: > > > > >From the keyboard of Roberto Nunnari, AGIE: > > > > > By the way, is such a functionality somehow covered by > > > the isdn standards? > > > > No, this is simply a functionality which manufacturers might want > > to implement or not. > > > > I know of a Cisco router (700 ?) which does implement exactly this > > functionality. > > > > > And if so, will i4b support it? > > > > I'll happily accept patches implementing this! > > > > I may be trying that. But first of all I'd need a bunch > of documents describing the isdn protocol and possibly > some hint/insider view on the general architecture of > i4b and possible ways of implementing it. Look at www.etsi.org. Search for 'basic call control'. ETSI ETS 300 102-1 is the document you want. The documentation at www.capi.org might also help... -- ================================================================ Christian Haan Intego GmbH Tel : +49-9131-691-3823 Am Weichselgarten 7 Fax : +49-9131-691-3829 91058 Erlangen Email: chn@intego.de GERMANY ================================================================ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isdn" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isdn Wed Aug 9 9: 2:17 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isdn@freebsd.org Received: from alice.turbocat.de (gate.turbocat.de [212.41.163.6]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D483F37BE87 for ; Wed, 9 Aug 2000 09:02:08 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dave@turbocat.de) Received: from cat.turbocat.de (cat.turbocat.de [212.41.163.194]) by alice.turbocat.de (8.10.1/8.10.1/08082000/dw/1) with ESMTP id e79G22g12150 for ; Wed, 9 Aug 2000 18:02:03 +0200 (CEST) Received: (from dave@localhost) by cat.turbocat.de (8.8.5/8.7.3) id SAA00345 for isdn@FreeBSD.ORG; Wed, 9 Aug 2000 18:02:02 +0200 (MET DST) Message-Id: <200008091602.SAA00345@cat.turbocat.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 (NeXT Mail 4.2mach v148) Content-Type: text/enriched; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline Received: by NeXT.Mailer (1.148) From: David Wetzel Date: Wed, 9 Aug 2000 18:02:01 +0200 To: isdn@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Array? Organisation: Turbocat's Development http://www.turbocat.de/ Sender: owner-freebsd-isdn@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi, we had some discussion about handling of special calls and destination number/msg some months ago. In the spare time I started to Implement somthing simelar to NSArray Desription is at: = http://developer.apple.com/techpubs/macosx/System/Library/Frameworks/Foundati= on.framework/Versions/C/Resources/English.lproj/Documentation/Reference/ObjC_= classic/Classes/NSMutableArray.html But in plain C. If Mr. I4B would like the idea I could finish that an we could make the call handling flexible. Comments? --- _ _ _(_)(_)_ David Wetzel, Turbocat's Development, (_) __ (_) Buchhorster Strasse 23, D-16567 Muehlenbeck/Berlin, FRG, _/ \_ Fax +49 33056 82835 NeXTmail dave@turbocat.de (______) http://www.turbocat.de/ DEVELOPMENT * CONSULTING * ADMINISTRATION To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isdn" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isdn Wed Aug 9 9:12: 7 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isdn@freebsd.org Received: from fmdb.c3.hu (dial-031.digitel2002.hu [213.163.2.31]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id A3F6037BF8A for ; Wed, 9 Aug 2000 09:11:46 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mico@bsd.hu) Received: (qmail 85877 invoked by uid 1004); 9 Aug 2000 13:12:09 -0000 From: "Miklos Niedermayer" Date: Wed, 9 Aug 2000 15:12:09 +0200 To: "Roberto Nunnari, AGIE" Cc: isdn@freebsd.org Subject: Re: I'm using 2*B ??? Message-ID: <20000809151209.B58228@bsd.hu> References: <398EC59E.896C67D6@agie.ch> <20000807192311.A35587@bsd.hu> <399162B4.83E35FB2@agie.ch> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2i In-Reply-To: <399162B4.83E35FB2@agie.ch>; from roberto.Nunnari@agie.ch on Wed, Aug 09, 2000 at 02:55:00PM +0100 X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 4.0 - The Power to Serve Sender: owner-freebsd-isdn@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hello, "Roberto Nunnari, AGIE" : > Will i4b automatically release one B channel for the second > call to be handled and take it again when it becames free > again? No, it won't. Dynamic handling of multiple links is ppp's job and it doesn't know anything about incoming or outgoing calls. Good luck anyway, and let us know if it works (or not). -- ______ o _. __ / / / (_(_(__(_) @ bsd.hu To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isdn" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isdn Wed Aug 9 11:23:59 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isdn@freebsd.org Received: from mailhost2.dircon.co.uk (mailhost2.dircon.co.uk [194.112.32.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 818A637BF68 for ; Wed, 9 Aug 2000 11:23:47 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from clem@bastet.com) Received: from bastet.com (bastet.dircon.co.uk [194.112.47.130]) by mailhost2.dircon.co.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id TAA10256; Wed, 9 Aug 2000 19:23:35 +0100 (BST) Message-ID: <3991A10A.2BE528BA@bastet.com> Date: Wed, 09 Aug 2000 19:20:58 +0100 From: Clem Dye X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (WinNT; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rich@dynamite.org Cc: freebsd-isdn@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: FreeBSD and ISDN support in the UK. References: <39906E29.10481.10B04C30@localhost> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isdn@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Rich: Once again, thanks for the heads-up. Time to flex the plastic, I think! Regards Clem Rich Wood wrote: > > On 8 Aug 2000, at 19:43, Clem Dye wrote: > > > Are there any particular 'gotchas' to watch-out for when configuring > > the card under FreeBSD? > > Not that I recall, however I'm currently using a Teles card, but did > use a BT/AVM card for a while and there wasn't anything tricky about > it. > > > My gameplan is to do the following: > > > > 1) Get my ISDN link up and running @ 128K, connected to my ISP. > > No problems (provided your ISP supports 128K connections) > > > 2) Install routing software (no idea what to use yet) so that my two > > NT boxes can get access to the 'Net via the FreeBSD box. 3) Install > > some firewall software to stop anything nasty occurring (I plan to > > leave the FreeBSD box running 24x7 once I've done that lot! (Oh, not > > forgetting the mail stuff too!). > > You won't need any routing software, use user-PPP over ISDN with > appropriate options for NAT. > > My settings are as follows (slightly edited to avoid unsightly line > wraps. > > This is for a single-channel dial-on-demand connection. Tweak as > appropriate. > > [rich@zippy ~]uname -sr > FreeBSD 3.4-RELEASE > [rich@zippy ~] > > [rich@zippy ~]grep ppp /etc/rc.conf > # Use ppp configuration. > ppp_enable="YES" # Start user-ppp (or NO). > ppp_mode="auto" # Choice of "auto", "ddial", "direct" or > # "dedicated". > # For details see man page for ppp(8). > # Default is auto. > ppp_nat="YES" # Use PPP's internal network address > # translation or NO. > ppp_profile="freeserve" # Which profile to use from > # /etc/ppp/ppp.conf. > [rich@zippy ~] > > [rich@zippy ~]cat /etc/ppp/ppp.conf > default: > set log Phase Chat LCP IPCP CCP tun command > set server +xxxx xxxxxxx > allow users rich > > > > freeserve: > set enddisc mac > disable lqr > set timeout 600 > set lqrperiod 45 > set phone 16164208452402620 > set redial 3 10 > set dial > set login > set hangup > set device /dev/i4brbch0 /dev/i4brbch1 > set speed sync > set authname xxxxxxx > set authkey xxxxxxx > set ifaddr 0.0.0.0/0 0.0.0.1/0 > add! default hisaddr > disable pred1 deflate > set cd 6 > [rich@zippy ~] > > Most of this is modified from a config Brian Somers sent me ages ago, > but should be in ppp.conf.sample and documented in the man page for > ppp(8) > > You will also need to configure isdn, there is a sample config in > /etc/isdn/isdnd.rc.sample for a user-ppp configuration. > > If I've missed anything I'm sure Brian will be along to correct > me..... > > Rich > -- > rich@dynamite.org rich@FreeBSD.org.uk > If that's what they call normal, I'd rather be insane > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isdn" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isdn" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isdn Wed Aug 9 19:41:31 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isdn@freebsd.org Received: from Awfulhak.org (tun.AwfulHak.org [194.242.139.173]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E812637B807 for ; Wed, 9 Aug 2000 19:41:26 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from brian@Awfulhak.org) Received: from hak.lan.Awfulhak.org (root@hak.lan.awfulhak.org [172.16.0.12]) by Awfulhak.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id DAA73980; Thu, 10 Aug 2000 03:33:54 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from brian@hak.lan.Awfulhak.org) Received: from hak.lan.Awfulhak.org (brian@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hak.lan.Awfulhak.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id DAA01849; Thu, 10 Aug 2000 03:33:51 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from brian@hak.lan.Awfulhak.org) Message-Id: <200008100233.DAA01849@hak.lan.Awfulhak.org> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.1.1 10/15/1999 To: "Roberto Nunnari, AGIE" Cc: isdn@FreeBSD.ORG, brian@Awfulhak.org Subject: Re: I'm using 2*B ??? In-Reply-To: Message from "Roberto Nunnari, AGIE" of "Mon, 07 Aug 2000 15:20:14 BST." <398EC59E.896C67D6@agie.ch> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Thu, 10 Aug 2000 03:33:50 +0100 From: Brian Somers Sender: owner-freebsd-isdn@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > - how can I know I'm really using both B channels at once > for a bandwith of 128 Kb? isdntrace -bi shows B2. But > the maximum transfer rate I get is 7.4 KBytes/sec Use pppctl to ``show links''. > - I'm using userland PPP. After some trying it seams to me > that if I want an idle-timeout I can't take advantage of > isdnd.rc options but must use user-ppp timeout option. Is > that right? Yes. If isdnd times out, ppp treats it as a connection failure and the ``set reconnect'' value will kick in. Also, ppp knows that things like LQR, and LCP/CCP/IPCP control packets shouldn't keep the connection alive. Additionally, with the latest versions of ppp, you can adjust your idle timer based on packet port numbers.... -- Brian Don't _EVER_ lose your sense of humour ! To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isdn" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isdn Thu Aug 10 2:52:43 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isdn@freebsd.org Received: from ns1.eds.ch (ns1.eds.ch [194.235.48.8]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0686437BE09 for ; Thu, 10 Aug 2000 02:52:39 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from roberto.Nunnari@agie.ch) Received: from onyx.eds.ch (onyx.eds.ch [206.122.128.224]) by ns1.eds.ch (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA26629 for ; Thu, 10 Aug 2000 12:01:22 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from mailsrv.eds.ch (mailsrv.eds.ch [206.122.128.226]) by onyx.eds.ch (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA04312 for ; Thu, 10 Aug 2000 11:56:41 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from agie.ch ([198.132.159.194]) by mailsrv.eds.ch (Netscape Messaging Server 3.6) with ESMTP id AAA73A; Thu, 10 Aug 2000 11:48:10 +0200 Message-ID: <39928918.F8DE68E@agie.ch> Date: Thu, 10 Aug 2000 11:51:04 +0100 From: "Roberto Nunnari, AGIE" Organization: AGIE X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (WinNT; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Brian Somers , Miklos Niedermayer Cc: isdn@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: I'm using 2*B ??? References: <200008100233.DAA01849@hak.lan.Awfulhak.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isdn@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Thanks Miklos and Brian. I found out I'm using only 1 channel. Trying to force (in ppp.conf) the use of both B channels in the log there's an error saying something like link 2: no CD I wander if I have to call again my ISP... regards. -- Roberto Nunnari -software engineer- mailto:roberto.nunnari@agie.ch AGIE - http://www.agie.com Via dei pioppi 16 tel: +41-91-8069138 6616 Losone """ Switzerland (o o) =======================oOO==(_)==OOo======================== MY OPNIONS ARE NOT NECESSARELY THOSE OF MY EMPLOYER To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isdn" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isdn Thu Aug 10 3:16:26 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isdn@freebsd.org Received: from ns1.eds.ch (ns1.eds.ch [194.235.48.8]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 76D8537B7FD for ; Thu, 10 Aug 2000 03:16:19 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from roberto.Nunnari@agie.ch) Received: from onyx.eds.ch (onyx.eds.ch [206.122.128.224]) by ns1.eds.ch (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA27120 for ; Thu, 10 Aug 2000 12:25:04 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from mailsrv.eds.ch (mailsrv.eds.ch [206.122.128.226]) by onyx.eds.ch (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA05237 for ; Thu, 10 Aug 2000 12:20:22 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from agie.ch ([198.132.159.194]) by mailsrv.eds.ch (Netscape Messaging Server 3.6) with ESMTP id AAAB23; Thu, 10 Aug 2000 12:12:03 +0200 Message-ID: <39928EBB.1D23FF59@agie.ch> Date: Thu, 10 Aug 2000 12:15:07 +0100 From: "Roberto Nunnari, AGIE" Organization: AGIE X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (WinNT; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Christian Haan Cc: hm@hcs.de, isdn@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: I'm using 2*B ??? References: <200008091514.RAA36534@ep075.intego.de> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isdn@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Thanks Christian. your links are very useful. Now I can start taking a look around and then evaluate if I can possibly have a chance to start a new project (depending on what is left of my free time) and bring it to a successful end. Best regards. -- Roberto Nunnari -software engineer- mailto:roberto.nunnari@agie.ch AGIE - http://www.agie.com Via dei pioppi 16 tel: +41-91-8069138 6616 Losone """ Switzerland (o o) =======================oOO==(_)==OOo======================== MY OPNIONS ARE NOT NECESSARELY THOSE OF MY EMPLOYER To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isdn" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isdn Thu Aug 10 3:40:29 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isdn@freebsd.org Received: from storm.FreeBSD.org.uk (storm.freebsd.org.uk [194.242.139.170]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B86A737B7FD for ; Thu, 10 Aug 2000 03:40:24 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from brian@Awfulhak.org) Received: from hak.lan.Awfulhak.org (hak.nat.Awfulhak.org [172.31.0.12]) by storm.FreeBSD.org.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA11513; Thu, 10 Aug 2000 11:40:21 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from brian@Awfulhak.org) Received: from hak.lan.Awfulhak.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hak.lan.Awfulhak.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA01705; Thu, 10 Aug 2000 11:40:17 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from brian@hak.lan.Awfulhak.org) Message-Id: <200008101040.LAA01705@hak.lan.Awfulhak.org> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.1.1 10/15/1999 To: "Roberto Nunnari, AGIE" Cc: Brian Somers , Miklos Niedermayer , isdn@FreeBSD.ORG, brian@Awfulhak.org Subject: Re: I'm using 2*B ??? In-Reply-To: Message from "Roberto Nunnari, AGIE" of "Thu, 10 Aug 2000 11:51:04 BST." <39928918.F8DE68E@agie.ch> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Thu, 10 Aug 2000 11:40:17 +0100 From: Brian Somers Sender: owner-freebsd-isdn@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > Thanks Miklos and Brian. > > I found out I'm using only 1 channel. > > Trying to force (in ppp.conf) the use of both B channels > in the log there's an error saying something like > link 2: no CD > I wander if I have to call again my ISP... Can you post the entire ppp log please ? Are you giving each link a different rbch device (or giving both links both devices) ? > regards. > -- > Roberto Nunnari -software engineer- > mailto:roberto.nunnari@agie.ch > AGIE - http://www.agie.com > Via dei pioppi 16 tel: +41-91-8069138 > 6616 Losone """ > Switzerland (o o) > =======================oOO==(_)==OOo======================== > MY OPNIONS ARE NOT NECESSARELY THOSE OF MY EMPLOYER > -- Brian Don't _EVER_ lose your sense of humour ! To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isdn" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isdn Thu Aug 10 3:50:57 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isdn@freebsd.org Received: from ns1.eds.ch (ns1.eds.ch [194.235.48.8]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8696837B9A4 for ; Thu, 10 Aug 2000 03:50:53 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from roberto.Nunnari@agie.ch) Received: from onyx.eds.ch (onyx.eds.ch [206.122.128.224]) by ns1.eds.ch (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA27566 for ; Thu, 10 Aug 2000 12:59:38 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from mailsrv.eds.ch (mailsrv.eds.ch [194.235.174.72] (may be forged)) by onyx.eds.ch (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA06171 for ; Thu, 10 Aug 2000 12:54:56 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from agie.ch ([198.132.159.194]) by mailsrv.eds.ch (Netscape Messaging Server 3.6) with ESMTP id AAA1075; Thu, 10 Aug 2000 12:46:38 +0200 Message-ID: <399296D7.FBAC7277@agie.ch> Date: Thu, 10 Aug 2000 12:49:43 +0100 From: "Roberto Nunnari, AGIE" Organization: AGIE X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (WinNT; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Brian Somers Cc: Miklos Niedermayer , isdn@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: I'm using 2*B ??? References: <200008101040.LAA01705@hak.lan.Awfulhak.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isdn@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Brian Somers wrote: > > > Thanks Miklos and Brian. > > > > I found out I'm using only 1 channel. > > > > Trying to force (in ppp.conf) the use of both B channels > > in the log there's an error saying something like > > link 2: no CD > > I wander if I have to call again my ISP... > > Can you post the entire ppp log please ? Are you giving each link a > different rbch device (or giving both links both devices) ? > OK. I'll post it this evening, as my FreeBSD box is at home... -- Roberto Nunnari -software engineer- mailto:roberto.nunnari@agie.ch AGIE - http://www.agie.com Via dei pioppi 16 tel: +41-91-8069138 6616 Losone """ Switzerland (o o) =======================oOO==(_)==OOo======================== MY OPNIONS ARE NOT NECESSARELY THOSE OF MY EMPLOYER To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isdn" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isdn Thu Aug 10 5:16:46 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isdn@freebsd.org Received: from exchserv.i-s-m.de (mail.i-s-m.de [195.126.230.242]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4664937B94F for ; Thu, 10 Aug 2000 05:16:38 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from i.kolemanov@i-s-m.de) Received: by mail.i-s-m.de with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) id ; Thu, 10 Aug 2000 14:17:05 +0200 Message-ID: <30C9B41D93B0D311ACF7006097AF0E5F13A144@mail.i-s-m.de> From: "ISM Kolemanov, Ivan" To: "'freebsd-isdn@FreeBSD.ORG'" Subject: Fritz!Card irq problem Date: Thu, 10 Aug 2000 14:17:04 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Sender: owner-freebsd-isdn@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org probably this is not the list for my case, but there is no other where I can ask :( I use OpenBSD 2.7 with i4b patches from Joerg Bornschein In case I did everything right I can start the PC & hardware MB Asus CUBX Fritz!Card PCI case 1: the bios option of my motherboard is NOT PnP OS the isdn cable is not plugged then I have: isic0 at pci0 dev 10 function 0 unknown vendor 0x1244 product 0x0a00 rev 0x02: Fritz!Card isic0: ISAC 2085 Version A1/A2 or 2086/2186 Version 1.1 (IOM-2) isic0: interrupting at irq 10 then I'm starting the isdnd, plug the cable and start ppp everything works great case 2: same as 1, but the cable is plug from the beggining then I have isic0 at pci0 dev 10 function 0 unknown vendor 0x1244 product 0x0a00 rev 0x02: Fritz!Card isic0: ISAC 2085 Version A1/A2 or 2086/2186 Version 1.1 (IOM-2) and the kernel is up to this point case 3: the bios option of my motherboard is PnP OS then I don't have problems with booting but: pci_intr_map: no mapping for pin A isic0: couldn't map interrupt case 4 hardware Siemence scenic pro D5 Fritz!Card PCI doesn' matter the bios option if the isdn cable is plugged from the beggining I will get hangup on isic0 at pci0 dev 10 function 0 unknown vendor 0x1244 product 0x0a00 rev 0x02: Fritz!Card isic0: ISAC 2085 Version A1/A2 or 2086/2186 Version 1.1 (IOM-2) if it is not - i have to plug it after initialization of the Fritz card and I have connection can anybody give me an idea where I'm going wrong Greetings, Ivan Kolemanov To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isdn" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isdn Thu Aug 10 15:14:57 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isdn@freebsd.org Received: from db1.sexfiles.com (vweb04.itnnet.com.144.195.208.in-addr.arpa [208.195.144.96]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7136737BC92 for ; Thu, 10 Aug 2000 15:14:54 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tina@sexfiles.com) Received: (from nobody@localhost) by db1.sexfiles.com (8.10.2/8.10.2) id e7AMDEx01420 for freebsd-isdn@freebsd.org; Thu, 10 Aug 2000 15:13:14 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 10 Aug 2000 15:13:14 -0700 (PDT) From: Tina Tripoli Message-Id: <200008102213.e7AMDEx01420@db1.sexfiles.com> X-Mailer: SexFiles List Manager 4.0 Subject: Sex Files Welcomes freebsd-isdn@freebsd.org [*RAB6aIBl05kpRr0cK2O5UYrPF0sn3cpDg42lgdT5QQN6hnHcTanjlqc8zy//sflwM.*] Sender: owner-freebsd-isdn@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Thanks for requesting FREE adult material from Sex Files. 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For more information about Sex Files log onto www.sexfiles.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isdn" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isdn Fri Aug 11 8: 2:56 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isdn@freebsd.org Received: from pk.nord-com.de (pk.nord-com.net [195.90.7.93]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 640CC37B6F6 for ; Fri, 11 Aug 2000 08:02:48 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ju.finck@nord-com.net) Received: from otaku.nerdnet.de (postfix@dial1-lo106.nord-com.net [213.168.193.106]) by pk.nord-com.de (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id RAA17204 for ; Fri, 11 Aug 2000 17:02:43 +0200 (MET DST) Received: by otaku.nerdnet.de (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 475BE27296; Fri, 11 Aug 2000 17:02:38 +0200 (CEST) Date: Fri, 11 Aug 2000 17:02:37 +0200 From: Jan-Uwe Finck To: freebsd-isdn@freebsd.org Subject: Elsa Microlink - next release ? Message-ID: <20000811170237.A3431@nord-com.net> Reply-To: Jan-Uwe.Finck@bigfoot.de Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i Sender: owner-freebsd-isdn@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi, as I haven't found any notice about this in the list archive I just ask: Will the Elsa Microlink be supported in the next release, and if so when will this release occur ? Yes, I noticed the thread about the Microlink, but it never came to end like: Yes, this bug is fixed and the card is supported now. Any comments ? -- Greetings, Jan-Uwe ------------------------------------------------- PGP-Public-Key on Request. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isdn" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isdn Fri Aug 11 9:24:53 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isdn@freebsd.org Received: from hcshh.hcs.de (hcshh.hcs.de [194.123.40.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 851AC37C15E for ; Fri, 11 Aug 2000 09:24:41 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from hm@hcs.de) Received: from hcswork.hcs.de (hcswork.hcs.de [192.76.124.5]) by hcshh.hcs.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1B7995D44; Fri, 11 Aug 2000 18:24:38 +0200 (CEST) Received: by hcswork.hcs.de (Postfix, from userid 200) id E27BC482C; Fri, 11 Aug 2000 18:24:37 +0200 (METDST) Subject: Re: Elsa Microlink - next release ? In-Reply-To: <20000811170237.A3431@nord-com.net> from Jan-Uwe Finck at "Aug 11, 0 05:02:37 pm" To: Jan-Uwe.Finck@bigfoot.de Date: Fri, 11 Aug 2000 18:24:37 +0200 (METDST) Cc: freebsd-isdn@FreeBSD.ORG Reply-To: hm@hcs.de Organization: HCS Hanseatischer Computerservice GmbH X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL39 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 789 Message-Id: <20000811162437.E27BC482C@hcswork.hcs.de> From: hm@hcs.de (Hellmuth Michaelis) Sender: owner-freebsd-isdn@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org From the keyboard of Jan-Uwe Finck: > Will the Elsa Microlink be supported in the next release, and if so > when will this release occur ? Which ELSA Microlink ? In case you mean the ELSA Microlink PCI, it is already supported with the exception, that Siemens/Infineon made a new mask revision of the IPAC which is found on newer ELSA Microlink PCI cards. The patch for this card is available from the mailing list archive and will be part of the next release. hellmuth -- Hellmuth Michaelis Tel +49 40 55 97 47-70 HCS Hanseatischer Computerservice GmbH Fax +49 40 55 97 47-77 Oldesloer Strasse 97-99 Mail hm [at] hcs.de D-22457 Hamburg WWW http://www.hcs.de To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isdn" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isdn Fri Aug 11 9:39:19 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isdn@freebsd.org Received: from pk.nord-com.de (pk.nord-com.net [195.90.7.93]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 34FD037B6C0 for ; Fri, 11 Aug 2000 09:39:05 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ju.finck@nord-com.net) Received: from otaku.nerdnet.de (postfix@dial1-lo106.nord-com.net [213.168.193.106]) by pk.nord-com.de (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id SAA23496; Fri, 11 Aug 2000 18:38:46 +0200 (MET DST) Received: by otaku.nerdnet.de (Postfix, from userid 1000) id F2CB427296; Fri, 11 Aug 2000 18:38:32 +0200 (CEST) Date: Fri, 11 Aug 2000 18:38:32 +0200 From: Jan-Uwe Finck To: Hellmuth Michaelis Cc: Jan-Uwe.Finck@bigfoot.de, freebsd-isdn@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Elsa Microlink - next release ? Message-ID: <20000811183832.A4116@nord-com.net> Reply-To: Jan-Uwe.Finck@bigfoot.de References: <20000811170237.A3431@nord-com.net> <20000811162437.E27BC482C@hcswork.hcs.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <20000811162437.E27BC482C@hcswork.hcs.de>; from hm@hcs.de on Fri, Aug 11, 2000 at 06:24:37PM +0200 Sender: owner-freebsd-isdn@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Fri, Aug 11, 2000 at 06:24:37PM +0200, Hellmuth Michaelis wrote: > >From the keyboard of Jan-Uwe Finck: > > > Will the Elsa Microlink be supported in the next release, and if so > > when will this release occur ? > > Which ELSA Microlink ? In case you mean the ELSA Microlink PCI, it is > already supported with the exception, that Siemens/Infineon made a new > mask revision of the IPAC which is found on newer ELSA Microlink PCI > cards. I see. Yes, I meant the PCI version, sorry. > The patch for this card is available from the mailing list archive and > will be part of the next release. Oh. Didn't see that. I'll have a deeper look. Thanks. -- Greetings, Jan-Uwe ------------------------------------------------- PGP-Public-Key on Request. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isdn" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isdn Sat Aug 12 0: 8:49 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isdn@freebsd.org Received: from Beasd.Echelon.nl (beasd.echelon.nl [193.78.78.34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 10AA037B757 for ; Sat, 12 Aug 2000 00:08:45 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from peter@echelon.nl) Received: from [193.78.78.131] (helo=charlie.echelon.nl) by Beasd.Echelon.nl with esmtp (Exim 3.13 #6) id 13NVPO-0008we-00 for freebsd-isdn@freebsd.org; Sat, 12 Aug 2000 09:08:42 +0200 Received: by Charlie.Echelon.nl; id ; Sat, 12 Aug 2000 09:08:41 +0200 (METDST) (Smail-3.2 1996-Jul-4 #9) Message-Id: Subject: isdnmonitor To: freebsd-isdn@freebsd.org Date: Sat, 12 Aug 2000 09:08:41 +0200 (METDST) From: Peter Spekreijse X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL54 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isdn@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi! Last week I installed FreeBSD 4.0 release as base for my i4b router. Until then the system was based on 3.4 STABLE with i4b 0.90. After the upgrade isdnmonitor stopped working (using the same config as before). The system is now running 4.0 STABLE with the same result. I did some testing with isdnd -P and noticed that the monitor section present in isdnd.rc does not appear in the output. There are no errors prosessing the config file. Has anybody a clue what's going wrong? Peter. -- Peter Spekreijse | email: peter@echelon.nl | web: www.echelon.nl ECHELON consultancy and software development | phone: +31 (0)53 48 36 585 PO Box 545, 7500AM Enschede, The Netherlands | fax: +31 (0)53 43 36 222 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isdn" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isdn Sat Aug 12 1:24:21 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isdn@freebsd.org Received: from hcshh.hcs.de (hcshh.hcs.de [194.123.40.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 624A637BCD7 for ; Sat, 12 Aug 2000 01:24:13 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from hm@hcs.de) Received: from hcswork.hcs.de (hcswork.hcs.de [192.76.124.5]) by hcshh.hcs.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id A169F5D63; Sat, 12 Aug 2000 10:24:11 +0200 (CEST) Received: by hcswork.hcs.de (Postfix, from userid 200) id 78108483F; Sat, 12 Aug 2000 10:24:11 +0200 (METDST) Subject: Re: isdnmonitor In-Reply-To: from Peter Spekreijse at "Aug 12, 0 09:08:41 am" To: peter@echelon.nl (Peter Spekreijse) Date: Sat, 12 Aug 2000 10:24:11 +0200 (METDST) Cc: freebsd-isdn@FreeBSD.ORG Reply-To: hm@hcs.de Organization: HCS Hanseatischer Computerservice GmbH X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL39 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 702 Message-Id: <20000812082411.78108483F@hcswork.hcs.de> From: hm@hcs.de (Hellmuth Michaelis) Sender: owner-freebsd-isdn@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org From the keyboard of Peter Spekreijse: > Last week I installed FreeBSD 4.0 release as base for my i4b router. Until > then the system was based on 3.4 STABLE with i4b 0.90. After the upgrade > isdnmonitor stopped working (using the same config as before). The system > is now running 4.0 STABLE with the same result. Please, what is "stopped working" ? Messages, logs, etc. hellmuth -- Hellmuth Michaelis Tel +49 40 55 97 47-70 HCS Hanseatischer Computerservice GmbH Fax +49 40 55 97 47-77 Oldesloer Strasse 97-99 Mail hm [at] hcs.de D-22457 Hamburg WWW http://www.hcs.de To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isdn" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isdn Sat Aug 12 6: 3:57 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isdn@freebsd.org Received: from cool.coolfactor.org (cool.coolfactor.org [212.25.240.39]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7492337BD9B for ; Sat, 12 Aug 2000 06:03:53 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gavan@coolfactor.org) Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=paper.durnsford.net ident=gavan) by cool.coolfactor.org with esmtp (Exim 3.03 #1) id 13Nax5-0006OZ-00 for freebsd-isdn@freebsd.org; Sat, 12 Aug 2000 14:03:51 +0100 Received: from gavan (helo=localhost) by paper.durnsford.net with local-esmtp (Exim 3.03 #1) id 13Natn-00018M-00; Sat, 12 Aug 2000 14:00:27 +0100 Date: Sat, 12 Aug 2000 14:00:26 +0100 (BST) From: Gavan Fantom To: Martin Husemann Cc: freebsd-isdn@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: established sppp connection confused by incoming call In-Reply-To: <200007312112.e6VLC2K10142@rumolt.teuto.de> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isdn@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org [Apologies for the delay, I've just got back from holiday] On Mon, 31 Jul 2000, Martin Husemann wrote: > > Am I right in understanding that these logs show a timeout sending an LCP > > close request? > > No, these logs seem to show there is no B-channel activity going on after your > tel0 call came in. OK. > Could you check if this happens after the incoming call is accepted (case 1) > or after the tel0 call is disconnected (case 2)? I started pinging a remote host and then called the answerphone. Packets stopped getting through as the call was answered. So, case 1. > I have no idea why a tel0 connection should mess with your B-channel assigned > to the isp0 connection. You could try another one: Phone in (to get B channel > 0 assigned to the phone connection), dial out via isp, then terminate the tel0 > call (now isp0 should be at B channel 1), then test if another incoming phone > call messes isp0 up. Brought the link down, phoned the answerphone, brought the link up, started pinging, hung up on the answerphone, phoned the answerphone and packets stopped getting through. So it seems that an incoming tel0 call messes up isp0 regardless of the channel in use. -- Gillette - the best a man can forget To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isdn" in the body of the message