From owner-freebsd-isp Sun Jan 16 8:12:59 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from goofy.intcom.net (goofy.intcom.net [207.17.172.51]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8E11114C02 for ; Sun, 16 Jan 2000 08:12:57 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jason@iac.net) Received: from jason ([207.17.172.228]) by goofy.intcom.net (Netscape Messaging Server 3.6) with SMTP id AAA5AA2 for ; Sun, 16 Jan 2000 11:12:46 -0500 From: "Jason Portwood" To: Subject: NFS and the ISP Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2000 11:10:43 -0500 Message-ID: <6381A6A8826BD31199500090279CAFBA089684@FOGHORN> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook CWS, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) In-Reply-To: <6381A6A8826BD31199500090279CAFBA0927A7@FOGHORN> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Importance: Normal Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org With all the questions floating around about FreeBSD, RAID and NFS one question keeps popping up in my head. NFS file locking. How is that being worked around or has it been added/fixed? Or is it really a big issue? Procmail is the only thing I've ever seen really rub the wrong way on this... Thanks, Jason Portwood - jason@iac.net Systems Administrator - Strategic/Internet Access Cincinnati Sales and Tech Support - 513-860-9052 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Sun Jan 16 8:38:55 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from phoenix.kurgan.ru (phoenix.kurgan.ru [195.54.28.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DCB0514E1C for ; Sun, 16 Jan 2000 08:38:46 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from Martin@McFlySr.Kurgan.Ru) Received: from mcflysr.kurgan.ru (mcflysr.kurgan.ru [195.54.7.11]) by phoenix.kurgan.ru (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id VAA06191 for ; Sun, 16 Jan 2000 21:38:42 +0500 (YEKT) Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2000 21:38:38 +0500 From: Martin McFlySr Reply-To: Martin McFlySr Organization: Back To The Future X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <2901.000116@McFlySr.Kurgan.Ru> To: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: pptpd and freebsd 3.4s Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hello freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG, anybody can run pptpd (1.0.0) on freebsd 3.4stable (with ipfw)? after look in ppp.log, it seems that ppp cant get IP address to win98 client and disconnect sesison :( any ideas? thank you, -- Sunday, January 16, 2000, 21:36 Best regards from future, Martin McFlySr, HillDale. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Sun Jan 16 9:29:16 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from intranova.net (blacklisted.intranova.net [209.3.31.70]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 3033414CF5 for ; Sun, 16 Jan 2000 09:29:14 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from oogali@intranova.net) Received: (qmail 95377 invoked from network); 16 Jan 2000 12:31:22 -0000 Received: from hydrant.intranova.net (user77981@209.201.95.10) by blacklisted.intranova.net with SMTP; 16 Jan 2000 12:31:21 -0000 Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2000 12:26:34 -0500 (EST) From: Omachonu Ogali To: "Nicholas J. Dear" Cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Bandwidth limiting on Switch. In-Reply-To: <200001141347.NAA03501@post.mail.areti.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org It's not a matter of manafacturer, but it's a matter of the model/make and its features, preferrably a Layer 3 switch. Omachonu Ogali Intranova Networking Group On Fri, 14 Jan 2000, Nicholas J. Dear wrote: > On 14 Jan 00, at 8:45, Intranova Networking Group wrote: > > > Either you can use a hardware solution (Ethernet switch) or you can use a > > software solution, which includes the dummynet bandwidth > > limiting/throttling feature in the FreeBSD kernel. Look at the 'ipfw' man > > page for more information on configuration issues and such... > > Definitely hardware solution. Do you recommend a particular product? > Preferably Cisco or 3com? > > N. > -- > Nicholas J. Dear > Mail: ndear@areti.net Tel: +44 (0)20-8402-4041 > Areti Internet Ltd., http://www.areti.co.uk/ > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Sun Jan 16 12:42:46 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from noop.colo.erols.net (noop.colo.erols.net [207.96.1.150]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 646B414DCB for ; Sun, 16 Jan 2000 12:42:43 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gjp@noop.colo.erols.net) Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=noop.colo.erols.net) by noop.colo.erols.net with esmtp (Exim 2.12 #1) id 129wWD-000K2G-00; Sun, 16 Jan 2000 15:43:25 -0500 To: Tom Cc: Roger Marquis , freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG From: "Gary Palmer" Subject: Re: Infortrend RAID / Extending FBSD filesystem? In-reply-to: Your message of "Sun, 09 Jan 2000 21:06:34 PST." Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2000 15:43:25 -0500 Message-ID: <77019.948055405@noop.colo.erols.net> Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Tom wrote in message ID : > > Much as I like FreeBSD, Sun is the way to go for large disk farms. > > Perhaps for the server itself, but Sun storage arrays seem very > overpriced (ie A5000 series). The storage density on the A5200 has yet to be beaten AFAIK. Its a fairly impressive unit. But you always pay extra for the purple paint and the Sun logo, as much as 50%-100% over what you can get the product for elsewhere (e.g. the A1000, D1000 and A3500 all use equipment/software written by MetaStor, and you can get similar or equivalent stuff a lot cheaper from MetaStor. MetaStor even has a fiberchannel RAID solution that Sun isn't shipping yet, and will be coming out with a pure fiberchannel RAID early this year). Pity we'll probably never see the DMP stuff supported in FreeBSD. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Sun Jan 16 12:45:32 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from noop.colo.erols.net (noop.colo.erols.net [207.96.1.150]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1C4E314BE6 for ; Sun, 16 Jan 2000 12:45:31 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gjp@noop.colo.erols.net) Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=noop.colo.erols.net) by noop.colo.erols.net with esmtp (Exim 2.12 #1) id 129wZE-000K2k-00; Sun, 16 Jan 2000 15:46:32 -0500 To: Roger Marquis Cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG From: "Gary Palmer" Subject: Re: Infortrend RAID / Extending FBSD filesystem? In-reply-to: Your message of "Sun, 09 Jan 2000 22:04:33 PST." Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2000 15:46:32 -0500 Message-ID: <77049.948055592@noop.colo.erols.net> Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Roger Marquis wrote in message ID : > Overpriced compared to what, EMC, NetApp, Auspex? Where else can you > get a quad FC-AL attached array the size of a PC with 22 10Krpm dual > ported drives? How hot do they run, out of curiosity? > I installed one of these on an E4500 a few months ago > with Oracle, Veritas' FastIO, near-line backups, hot-swap and redundant ITYM QuickIO > everything. The 200MB/s throughput is also hard to beat. > > I don't know of a better Unix solution at any price for 2+TB per > cabinet that can be separated from it's servers and mirrors by several > kilometers of fiber. Depends how big your cabinets are, and what size drives you are using. With 18gig drives, the MetaStor S series comes in at just under 2TB/rack To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Sun Jan 16 13:31:15 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from roble.com (roble.com [206.40.34.50]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 14F8714A27 for ; Sun, 16 Jan 2000 13:31:13 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from sendmail@roble.com) Received: from roble2.roble.com (roble2.roble.com [206.40.34.52]) by roble.com (Roble1b) with SMTP id NAA10120 for ; Sun, 16 Jan 2000 13:31:14 -0800 (PST) Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2000 13:31:10 -0800 (PST) From: Roger Marquis To: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Infortrend RAID / Extending FBSD filesystem? In-Reply-To: <77019.948055405@noop.colo.erols.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Sun, 16 Jan 2000, Gary Palmer wrote: > The storage density on the A5200 has yet to be beaten AFAIK. Its a > fairly impressive unit. But you always pay extra for the purple paint > and the Sun logo, as much as 50%-100% over what you can get the > product for elsewhere (e.g. the A1000, D1000 and A3500 all use > equipment/software written by MetaStor, and you can get similar or > equivalent stuff a lot cheaper from MetaStor. Do they bundle a year's worth of hardware and software support, including warranty? Support has always been one of Sun's strong suites. The last time I had a bad GBIC, one of the early Vixels, they had a hardware engineer there within a couple of hours. That was on contract. Warranty support would have cross-shipped a replacement part next-day. A number of companys also offer s/w support contracts for Linux. I wonder what the market would be for FreeBSD support contracts? -- Roger Marquis Roble Systems Consulting http://www.roble.com/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Sun Jan 16 16:28:14 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mail.fil.net (mail.fil.net [202.57.102.7]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6B53014C20 for ; Sun, 16 Jan 2000 16:28:09 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from aLan@fil.net) Received: from fil.net ([202.57.102.6]) by mail.fil.net (Netscape Messaging Server 3.62) with ESMTP id 244; Mon, 17 Jan 2000 08:27:47 +0800 Message-ID: <388261FD.D1EDAD69@fil.net> Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2000 08:27:41 +0800 From: "aLan Tait" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.6 [en] (WinNT; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: ndear@areti.net Cc: Thierry.Herbelot@alcatel.fr, freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Bandwidth limiting on Switch. References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I've got dummynet running in a different way. Since bandwidth is very expensive here in the rural areas of the Philippines, I allocate bandwidth in 1.5K chuncks (starting at 4.5K)! Then I use a 10M pipe to bypass this to a sibling proxy. Anything on the Proxy is high-speed, anything else is the speed they pay for. At 32K chuncks you won't have any problem with dummynet! For something you don't even have to recompile, read on! ****************************** If you want something really cheap that still works... STEP 1 Go to Luigi's page: http://www.iet.unipi.it/~luigi/ Follow the link to Dummynet. Look for: "Dummynet, bridging and PicoBSD" Download the .bin file Put it on a floppy disk with fdimage.exe in DOS or Windows (from the FreeBSD CD #1 - or download it) or use DD in Unix. STEP 2 Get a computer (I used a retired P-120 with 64 MB) Put TWO 10BaseT Network cards in it (I used D-Link PCI cards) Make sure you have a 1.2M Floppy drive (no hard drive needed!) Turn on Computer! You now have a working bandwidth limiter! Set your rules in the rc.firewall under "luigi" per instructions on the above page (follow the examples there in rc.firewall - there is one for a 30K pipe - it is real easy). You "should" make some changes in the rc.conf and resolv.conf files, but I'll tell you, it really worked - FIRST TIME - right after boot! The Floppy is fully loaded into memory and can be removed after boot (a nice security thing!). Oh - be sure to mount the floppy and cp your changed files onto the floppy's (/start_floppy/etc) or they won't be there the next time you boot! The same goes with master.passwd - when you shut off the machine - all changes (in memory) are lost - you MUST save them to the start_floppy! You can use /etc/fstab as the road map! Any problems? I'd be glad to help (just remember that I am busy running an ISP!). Any PRAISE? - Send it to Luigi (who deserves it!). By the way, I later transfered to a hard drive so I could add some more things (besides dummynet) that wouldn't fit on one floppy. Now the drive boots, load everything into memory, then spins down in one minute (power saver in bios) and... *** RUNS COMPLETELY IN MEMORY! - VERY FAST on a cheap machine. If you follow the picobsd roadmap, you could build this on a bigger machine at 100BaseT speeds using FreeBSD with no problem - I just don't have the need for that kind of speed! Lan -- ----------------------------------- Filipino Network Solution - Fil.Net ----------------------------------- ********************************************************* *** I switched to FreeBSD from When?Doze because... *** *** I never knew When? - It was going to Doze! ;) *** ********************************************************* Thierry.Herbelot@alcatel.fr wrote: > > Hello, > > with bandwidth in the order of n*64kbps, you may want to investigate dummynet, which is a function of the TCP/IP stack of FreeBSD, which does exactly what you want to do (and which is free). > > beware : you will have to compile a new kernel for FreeBSD, so if this seems too adventurous for you, take some competent guy to do it for you (anyway, you will find a good handbook on www.freebsd.org) > > TfH > > "Nicholas J. Dear" on 14/01/2000 13:19:13 > > Please respond to ndear@areti.net > > > > To: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG > > cc: (bcc: Thierry HERBELOT/FR/ALCATEL) > > > > Subject: Bandwidth limiting on Switch. > > > Hi, > > We're about to start doing some co-location, and we will need to restrict the > bandwidth to each machine. I'm assuming we need some sort of switch with > bandwidth throttling capabilities? > > We'd need to throttle from 32K, or 64K upwards, in 64K increments. > > Could anyone recommend a particular product, or how they do the job? > TIA. > N. > -- > Nicholas J. Dear > Mail: ndear@areti.net Tel: +44 (0)20-8402-4041 > Areti Internet Ltd., http://www.areti.co.uk/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Sun Jan 16 20:51:20 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mail.inr.net (mail.inr.net [198.77.208.12]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4368114E80 for ; Sun, 16 Jan 2000 20:51:18 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mylists@inr.net) Received: from wakko (wakko.inr.net [198.77.208.4]) by mail.inr.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id XAA74669 for ; Sun, 16 Jan 2000 23:51:50 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.20000116235116.00a42210@mail.inr.net> X-Sender: mylists@mail.inr.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.6 (32) Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2000 23:51:16 -0500 To: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG From: "N.B. DelMore" Subject: Shared File Systems Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I find myself in desperate need to impliment some sort of centralized file system (RAID 5) that can be shared by multiple servers, eg. mail, web, shell etc. To that end, we recently implemented a single 200 GB RAID array using (forgive me) RH 6, and the DPT SmartRAID V controller (I waited for months hoping that FreeBSD support for this controller would appear as promised by DPT early last year). But we probably will convert this to FreeBSD as soon as the drivers become available and are proven to be stable. Currently, its only being used as a mail spool; sendmail and cucipop delivering mail to the users 'home' directory (hashed spools), but I would really like to begin using it for other purposes as well, e.g. for some of our web hosting services. However, I keep reading about how NFS is not the ideal manner in which to impliment this due to a number of reasons. I'd appreciate some advice from my fellow ISP's. Am I on the right path or ? Thanks Noel To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Sun Jan 16 22:35: 3 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from misery.sdf.com (misery.sdf.com [204.244.213.49]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C2F2014F56 for ; Sun, 16 Jan 2000 22:34:58 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from tom@sdf.com) Received: from tom (helo=localhost) by misery.sdf.com with local-esmtp (Exim 2.12 #1) id 12A5jd-0001gb-00; Sun, 16 Jan 2000 22:33:53 -0800 Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2000 22:33:47 -0800 (PST) From: Tom To: "N.B. DelMore" Cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Shared File Systems In-Reply-To: <3.0.6.32.20000116235116.00a42210@mail.inr.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Sun, 16 Jan 2000, N.B. DelMore wrote: > I find myself in desperate need to impliment some sort of centralized file > system (RAID 5) that can be shared by multiple servers, eg. mail, web, > shell etc. > > To that end, we recently implemented a single 200 GB RAID array using > (forgive me) RH 6, and the DPT SmartRAID V controller (I waited for months > hoping that FreeBSD support for this controller would appear as promised by > DPT early last year). But we probably will convert this to FreeBSD as soon > as the drivers become available and are proven to be stable. > > Currently, its only being used as a mail spool; sendmail and cucipop > delivering mail to the users 'home' directory (hashed spools), but I would > really like to begin using it for other purposes as well, e.g. for some of > our web hosting services. > > However, I keep reading about how NFS is not the ideal manner in which to > impliment this due to a number of reasons. > > I'd appreciate some advice from my fellow ISP's. Am I on the right path or ? I think it is important to look at why you want to centralize your data storage. You say you are desparate to do it, but why? Answering that will go a long way. NFS can work. There is a price to pay though. Depending on the applications, there can be locking issues. Latency is always higher than local storage (client -> network -> server -> disk as opposed to client -> disk). Most ISPs that want centralized NFS, go for a NetApp, which has specialized hardware to accelerate performance. NetApp's also have nice features like online expansion of filesystems, and snapshots. You need to plan the clients and servers properly, connected with a good network. You mention your server, but not your client(s). Is your server a dedicated NFS server, or does it run other stuff? > Thanks > Noel > > > > > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message > > Tom To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Mon Jan 17 5: 9:44 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from cliff.i-plus.net (cliff.i-plus.net [209.100.20.42]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A107814A31 for ; Mon, 17 Jan 2000 05:09:39 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from st@i-plus.net) Received: from abyss (is.dashit.net [209.100.22.250]) by cliff.i-plus.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id IAA35547; Mon, 17 Jan 2000 08:09:18 -0500 (EST) From: "Troy Settle" To: "aLan Tait" , Cc: , Subject: RE: Bandwidth limiting on Switch. Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2000 08:06:22 -0500 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 In-Reply-To: <388261FD.D1EDAD69@fil.net> Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Something I've been meaning to ask... Can one monitor bandwidth as well as limit it with dummynet? -Troy > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG > [mailto:owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG]On Behalf Of aLan Tait > Sent: Sunday, January 16, 2000 19:28 > To: ndear@areti.net > Cc: Thierry.Herbelot@alcatel.fr; freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG > Subject: Re: Bandwidth limiting on Switch. > > > I've got dummynet running in a different way. Since > bandwidth is very expensive here in the rural areas of the > Philippines, I allocate bandwidth in 1.5K chuncks (starting > at 4.5K)! Then I use a 10M pipe to bypass this to a sibling > proxy. Anything on the Proxy is high-speed, anything else > is the speed they pay for. > > At 32K chuncks you won't have any problem with dummynet! > For something you don't even have to recompile, read on! > > ****************************** > If you want something really cheap that still works... > > STEP 1 > Go to Luigi's page: > http://www.iet.unipi.it/~luigi/ > Follow the link to Dummynet. > Look for: "Dummynet, bridging and PicoBSD" > Download the .bin file > Put it on a floppy disk with fdimage.exe in DOS or Windows > (from the FreeBSD CD #1 - or download it) or use DD in Unix. > > STEP 2 > Get a computer (I used a retired P-120 with 64 MB) > Put TWO 10BaseT Network cards in it (I used D-Link PCI > cards) > Make sure you have a 1.2M Floppy drive (no hard drive > needed!) > Turn on Computer! > > You now have a working bandwidth limiter! > Set your rules in the rc.firewall under "luigi" per > instructions on the above page (follow the examples there in > rc.firewall - there is one for a 30K pipe - it is real > easy). > > You "should" make some changes in the rc.conf and > resolv.conf files, but I'll tell you, it really worked - > FIRST TIME - right after boot! > > The Floppy is fully loaded into memory and can be removed > after boot (a nice security thing!). Oh - be sure to mount > the floppy and cp your changed files onto the floppy's > (/start_floppy/etc) or they won't be there the next time you > boot! The same goes with master.passwd - when you shut off > the machine - all changes (in memory) are lost - you MUST > save them to the start_floppy! You can use /etc/fstab as > the road map! > > Any problems? I'd be glad to help (just remember that I am > busy running an ISP!). > Any PRAISE? - Send it to Luigi (who deserves it!). > > By the way, I later transfered to a hard drive so I could > add some more things (besides dummynet) that wouldn't fit on > one floppy. Now the drive boots, load everything into > memory, then spins down in one minute (power saver in bios) > and... > *** RUNS COMPLETELY IN MEMORY! - VERY FAST on a cheap > machine. > > If you follow the picobsd roadmap, you could build this on a > bigger machine at 100BaseT speeds using FreeBSD with no > problem - I just don't have the need for that kind of speed! > > Lan > > -- > ----------------------------------- > Filipino Network Solution - Fil.Net > ----------------------------------- > > ********************************************************* > *** I switched to FreeBSD from When?Doze because... *** > *** I never knew When? - It was going to Doze! ;) *** > ********************************************************* > > Thierry.Herbelot@alcatel.fr wrote: > > > > Hello, > > > > with bandwidth in the order of n*64kbps, you may want to > investigate dummynet, which is a function of the TCP/IP stack of > FreeBSD, which does exactly what you want to do (and which is free). > > > > beware : you will have to compile a new kernel for FreeBSD, so > if this seems too adventurous for you, take some competent guy to > do it for you (anyway, you will find a good handbook on www.freebsd.org) > > > > TfH > > > > "Nicholas J. Dear" on 14/01/2000 13:19:13 > > > > Please respond to ndear@areti.net > > > > > > > > To: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG > > > > cc: (bcc: Thierry HERBELOT/FR/ALCATEL) > > > > > > > > Subject: Bandwidth limiting on Switch. > > > > > > Hi, > > > > We're about to start doing some co-location, and we will need > to restrict the > > bandwidth to each machine. I'm assuming we need some sort of switch with > > bandwidth throttling capabilities? > > > > We'd need to throttle from 32K, or 64K upwards, in 64K increments. > > > > Could anyone recommend a particular product, or how they do the job? > > TIA. > > N. > > -- > > Nicholas J. Dear > > Mail: ndear@areti.net Tel: +44 (0)20-8402-4041 > > Areti Internet Ltd., http://www.areti.co.uk/ > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Mon Jan 17 5:16: 1 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from velvet.sensation.net.au (tunnel0-velvet-brunswick.sensation.net.au [203.20.114.195]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 67EFF14C85 for ; Mon, 17 Jan 2000 05:15:55 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from rowan@sensation.net.au) Received: from localhost (rowan@localhost) by velvet.sensation.net.au (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id AAA05067 for ; Tue, 18 Jan 2000 00:15:45 +1100 (EST) (envelope-from rowan@sensation.net.au) X-Authentication-Warning: velvet.sensation.net.au: rowan owned process doing -bs Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2000 00:15:43 +1100 (EST) From: Rowan Crowe To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: RE: Bandwidth limiting on Switch. In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Mon, 17 Jan 2000, Troy Settle wrote: > Something I've been meaning to ask... > > Can one monitor bandwidth as well as limit it with dummynet? Dummynet is part of (or configured via) ipfw, so you can just add in an identical 'count' ipfw rule... It would be handy if we could specify dummynet pipes as an interface, to prevent doubling up on ipfw rules (some dummynet implementations may have several ipfw rules feeding into a single pipe). eg: count ip from any to any via pipe 1 Thoughts? (I'm a bad C coder at best, and certainly not anywhere near good enough for kernel hacking :) ) Cheers. -- Rowan Crowe http://www.rowan.sensation.net.au/ Sensation Internet Services http://www.sensation.net.au/ Melbourne, Australia Phone: +61-3-9388-9260 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Mon Jan 17 5:29:43 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mel.alcatel.fr (mel.alcatel.fr [212.208.74.132]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 69A3F14A03 for ; Mon, 17 Jan 2000 05:29:36 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from Thierry.Herbelot@alcatel.fr) Received: from aifhs10.alcatel.fr (mailhub2.alcatel.fr [155.132.188.80]) by mel.alcatel.fr (ALCANET/SMTP) with ESMTP id OAA25982; Mon, 17 Jan 2000 14:22:46 +0100 From: Thierry.Herbelot@alcatel.fr Received: from frmta003.netfr.alcatel.fr (frmta003.netfr.alcatel.fr [155.132.251.32]) by aifhs10.alcatel.fr (ALCANET/SMTP2) with SMTP id OAA22689; Mon, 17 Jan 2000 14:24:57 +0100 (MET) Received: by frmta003.netfr.alcatel.fr(Lotus SMTP MTA v4.6.6 (890.1 7-16-1999)) id C1256869.004A1A96 ; Mon, 17 Jan 2000 14:29:24 +0100 X-Lotus-FromDomain: ALCATEL To: "Troy Settle" Cc: "aLan Tait" , ndear@areti.net, freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Message-ID: Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2000 14:29:17 +0100 Subject: RE: Bandwidth limiting on Switch. Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org "ipfw show" should make do TfH "Troy Settle" on 17/01/2000 14:06:22 To: "aLan Tait" , ndear@areti.net cc: Thierry HERBELOT/FR/ALCATEL@ALCATEL, freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: RE: Bandwidth limiting on Switch. Something I've been meaning to ask... Can one monitor bandwidth as well as limit it with dummynet? -Troy To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Mon Jan 17 5:40:37 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from info.iet.unipi.it (info.iet.unipi.it [131.114.9.184]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 09C4D14CE4 for ; Mon, 17 Jan 2000 05:40:23 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from luigi@info.iet.unipi.it) Received: (from luigi@localhost) by info.iet.unipi.it (8.9.3/8.9.3) id OAA53609; Mon, 17 Jan 2000 14:21:21 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from luigi) From: Luigi Rizzo Message-Id: <200001171321.OAA53609@info.iet.unipi.it> Subject: Re: Bandwidth limiting on Switch. In-Reply-To: from Rowan Crowe at "Jan 18, 2000 00:15:43 am" To: Rowan Crowe Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2000 14:21:21 +0100 (CET) Cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL61 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > > Can one monitor bandwidth as well as limit it with dummynet? > Dummynet is part of (or configured via) ipfw, so you can just add in an > identical 'count' ipfw rule... > > It would be handy if we could specify dummynet pipes as an interface, to The new dummynet code in 4.0 (soon to go into 3.4) lets you do this as it has counters associated to pipes, and it also gives you the ability to define masks and create separate pipes per each flow, so you can basically do counting with something like ipfw add pipe 1 ip from any to any ipfw pipe 1 config mask src-ip 0xffffffff bw 60Kbit/s so you can have per-host accounting, and the like. Kind of the things you can do with trafshow/ntop but this is in-kernel so it is interface-independent. cheers luigi -----------------------------------+------------------------------------- Luigi RIZZO, luigi@iet.unipi.it . Dip. di Ing. dell'Informazione http://www.iet.unipi.it/~luigi/ . Universita` di Pisa TEL/FAX: +39-050-568.533/522 . via Diotisalvi 2, 56126 PISA (Italy) Mobile +39-347-0373137 -----------------------------------+------------------------------------- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Mon Jan 17 5:42: 2 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from cliff.i-plus.net (cliff.i-plus.net [209.100.20.42]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9C5AA14CC9 for ; Mon, 17 Jan 2000 05:41:59 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from st@i-plus.net) Received: from abyss (is.dashit.net [209.100.22.250]) by cliff.i-plus.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id IAA38030 for ; Mon, 17 Jan 2000 08:41:58 -0500 (EST) From: "Troy Settle" To: Subject: RE: Bandwidth limiting on Switch. Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2000 08:39:03 -0500 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 In-Reply-To: Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Ok, ipfw show gives me numbers... are those packets or bytes? The man page doesn't say. For bandwidth monitoring, I was thinking something more along the lines of being able to access a byte counter via SNMP, ala MRTG. -Troy > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG > [mailto:owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG]On Behalf Of > Thierry.Herbelot@alcatel.fr > Sent: Monday, January 17, 2000 08:29 > To: Troy Settle > Cc: aLan Tait; ndear@areti.net; freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG > Subject: RE: Bandwidth limiting on Switch. > > > > > "ipfw show" should make do > > TfH > > > > > "Troy Settle" on 17/01/2000 14:06:22 > > > > To: "aLan Tait" , ndear@areti.net > > cc: Thierry HERBELOT/FR/ALCATEL@ALCATEL, > freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG > > > > Subject: RE: Bandwidth limiting on Switch. > > > > > > > Something I've been meaning to ask... > > Can one monitor bandwidth as well as limit it with dummynet? > > -Troy > > > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Mon Jan 17 5:49:47 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mail6.uunet.ca (mail6.uunet.ca [142.77.1.27]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BA78F14C9D for ; Mon, 17 Jan 2000 05:49:43 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from matt@ARPA.MAIL.NET) Received: from w01.arpa-canada.net ([216.95.146.6]) by mail6.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <231894-18227>; Mon, 17 Jan 2000 08:49:25 -0500 Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2000 08:49:29 -0500 From: matt X-Sender: matt@w01.arpa-canada.net To: Luigi Rizzo Cc: Rowan Crowe , freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Bandwidth limiting on Switch. In-Reply-To: <200001171321.OAA53609@info.iet.unipi.it> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I'm wondering, off topic a little bit, is there any plan to clean up (in my opinion) ipfw, and perhaps give it a syslog level, or anything other then logging to the system message buf? -Matt On Mon, 17 Jan 2000, Luigi Rizzo wrote: : Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2000 08:21:21 -0500 : From: Luigi Rizzo : To: Rowan Crowe : Cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG : Subject: Re: Bandwidth limiting on Switch. : : > > Can one monitor bandwidth as well as limit it with dummynet? : > Dummynet is part of (or configured via) ipfw, so you can just add in an : > identical 'count' ipfw rule... : > : > It would be handy if we could specify dummynet pipes as an interface, to : : The new dummynet code in 4.0 (soon to go into 3.4) lets you do : this as it has counters associated to pipes, and it also gives you : the ability to define masks and create separate pipes per each flow, : so you can basically do counting with something like : : ipfw add pipe 1 ip from any to any : ipfw pipe 1 config mask src-ip 0xffffffff bw 60Kbit/s : : so you can have per-host accounting, and the like. Kind of the things : you can do with trafshow/ntop but this is in-kernel so it is : interface-independent. : : cheers : luigi : -----------------------------------+------------------------------------- : Luigi RIZZO, luigi@iet.unipi.it . Dip. di Ing. dell'Informazione : http://www.iet.unipi.it/~luigi/ . Universita` di Pisa : TEL/FAX: +39-050-568.533/522 . via Diotisalvi 2, 56126 PISA (Italy) : Mobile +39-347-0373137 : -----------------------------------+------------------------------------- : : : To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org : with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message : To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Mon Jan 17 5:52:37 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from info.iet.unipi.it (info.iet.unipi.it [131.114.9.184]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 33C3314D97 for ; Mon, 17 Jan 2000 05:52:32 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from luigi@info.iet.unipi.it) Received: (from luigi@localhost) by info.iet.unipi.it (8.9.3/8.9.3) id OAA53761; Mon, 17 Jan 2000 14:52:11 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from luigi) From: Luigi Rizzo Message-Id: <200001171352.OAA53761@info.iet.unipi.it> Subject: Re: Bandwidth limiting on Switch. In-Reply-To: from Troy Settle at "Jan 17, 2000 08:39:03 am" To: Troy Settle Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2000 14:52:11 +0100 (CET) Cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL61 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org [Charset iso-8859-1 unsupported, filtering to ASCII...] > > Ok, ipfw show gives me numbers... are those packets or bytes? The man page > doesn't say. both... > For bandwidth monitoring, I was thinking something more along the lines of > being able to access a byte counter via SNMP, ala MRTG. no snmp support yet, sorry (i have no idea, but maybe snmp daemon can be modified to fetch counters through the ipfw ioctl etc ?) cheers luigi To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Mon Jan 17 5:59:51 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from info.iet.unipi.it (info.iet.unipi.it [131.114.9.184]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5102C14D0F for ; Mon, 17 Jan 2000 05:59:46 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from luigi@info.iet.unipi.it) Received: (from luigi@localhost) by info.iet.unipi.it (8.9.3/8.9.3) id OAA53795; Mon, 17 Jan 2000 14:59:23 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from luigi) From: Luigi Rizzo Message-Id: <200001171359.OAA53795@info.iet.unipi.it> Subject: Re: Bandwidth limiting on Switch. In-Reply-To: from matt at "Jan 17, 2000 08:49:29 am" To: matt Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2000 14:59:22 +0100 (CET) Cc: Rowan Crowe , freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL61 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > I'm wondering, off topic a little bit, is there any plan to clean up (in > my opinion) ipfw, and perhaps give it a syslog level, or anything other > then logging to the system message buf? while plans and ideas might be there (including fair queueing in dummynet and statefulness in ipfw), some of this work needs more than some spare hours, and some other (code cleanup etc.) is extremely boring, so some support is really needed if you want to see them become reality not too far in time. cheers luigi -----------------------------------+------------------------------------- Luigi RIZZO, luigi@iet.unipi.it . Dip. di Ing. dell'Informazione http://www.iet.unipi.it/~luigi/ . Universita` di Pisa TEL/FAX: +39-050-568.533/522 . via Diotisalvi 2, 56126 PISA (Italy) Mobile +39-347-0373137 -----------------------------------+------------------------------------- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Mon Jan 17 6:12: 4 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mail1.uunet.ca (mail1.uunet.ca [209.167.141.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9B62214BEA for ; Mon, 17 Jan 2000 06:12:02 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from matt@ARPA.MAIL.NET) Received: from w01.arpa-canada.net ([216.95.146.6]) by mail1.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <216942-21538>; Mon, 17 Jan 2000 09:07:07 -0500 Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2000 09:07:06 -0500 From: matt X-Sender: matt@w01.arpa-canada.net To: Luigi Rizzo Cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Bandwidth limiting on Switch. In-Reply-To: <200001171359.OAA53795@info.iet.unipi.it> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Yes, I did not mean clean up in that sense, ipfw works great for me, and has never given me a problem, what I meant by clean up, was the logging side of it, not the functional side. To be quite hoenst though, my C is terrible, and I do not trust myself to muck around in a kernel. Thanks though, I've been wondering about the status of this. -Matt On Mon, 17 Jan 2000, Luigi Rizzo wrote: [...] : while plans and ideas might be there (including fair queueing in : dummynet and statefulness in ipfw), some of this work needs more : than some spare hours, and some other (code cleanup etc.) is : extremely boring, so some support is really needed if you want : to see them become reality not too far in time. : : cheers : luigi To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Mon Jan 17 7:30:34 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mail.palnet.com (mail.palnet.com [192.116.19.220]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 75D0214D2A for ; Mon, 17 Jan 2000 07:30:30 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from rjebara@palnet.com) Received: from palnet.com (dogbert.palnet.com [192.116.17.51]) by mail.palnet.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA17942 for ; Mon, 17 Jan 2000 17:30:13 +0200 (IST) Message-ID: <388333D6.61C2A79E@palnet.com> Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2000 17:23:02 +0200 From: Rami Abu Jebara X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en]C-CCK-MCD {Palnet} (WinNT; I) X-Accept-Language: ar MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: WCCP support and squid Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi I am planning to implement WCCP support on my proxies and I am just wondering if anybody bothered to test it out with squid and FreeBSD of course :) Also if you tried the kernel patch that the squid site references to implement GRE support in the kernel. http://squid.nlanr.net/Doc/FAQ/FAQ-17.html and http://squid.nlanr.net/WCCP-support/FreeBSD/gre.c Has anybody experienced any problems with it .. in regards to overall stability and security of the system. I am using FreeBSD 3.4-RELEASE, and I am planning to upgrade to squid 2.3. cheers Rami -- **************************** Rami Abu Jebara Technical Director Palnet Communications Ltd e-mail: rjebara@palnet.com Tel: ++ 972 2 240 3434 Fax: ++ 972 2 240 3430 w w w . p a l n e t . c o m To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Mon Jan 17 9:31: 1 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from super-g.com (super-g.com [207.240.140.161]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1524214E4F for ; Mon, 17 Jan 2000 09:30:57 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from spork@super-g.com) Received: by super-g.com (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 9C2A510E5F; Mon, 17 Jan 2000 12:30:55 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by super-g.com (Postfix) with SMTP id 810F610E5E; Mon, 17 Jan 2000 12:30:55 -0500 (EST) Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2000 12:30:55 -0500 (EST) From: spork X-Sender: spork@super-g.inch.com To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Cc: noc@inch.com Subject: high load, nothing happening? (LONG) Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi, I'm trying my luck over here, I already posted to -questions without any resolution. I'm including my original post and below that a summary of some responses and my answers... [begin orginal post] We just built a large webserver machine (PII-450, 896MB RAM, 30-odd G of Mylex RAID, 3.3-R) that constantly runs a load of from 1 to 3, even though it's not doing anything (still sitting as a staging server). The initial startup is also very slow; after about 40 of the servers start there's about a 15 second pause, then another 40, pause, etc... This box is running about 170 virtual hosts (and a full class C of addresses aliased to fxp0) under Apache 1.3.9, with each vhost running as it's own user and starting 3 servers at startup, so there are a large *number* of processes, but no swapping with about half a gig of RAM left free. I have maxusers at 512, NMBCLUSTERS at 4096, and the following sysctl adjustments: kern.maxproc: 8212 kern.maxfiles: 100000 kern.maxfilesperproc: 16424 kern.maxprocperuid: 8211 kern.ipc.somaxconn: 512 This is all gathered from various "tuning for a big webserver" posts from the various FBSD lists. systat, vmstat, iostat all look normal, and I've not seen any curious entries in the logs. So that's the info, my questions are "why the load", and "is that OK"? Something seems wrong here, but I'm at a loss. Any ideas where to start looking? [followup #1] > What does top(1) report? last pid: 23684; load averages: 3.74, 1.96, 1.46 up 7+21:10:15 10:35:38 449 processes: 1 running, 448 sleeping CPU states: 0.0% user, 0.0% nice, 2.7% system, 0.0% interrupt, 97.3% idle Mem: 62M Active, 355M Inact, 45M Wired, 8350K Buf, 418M Free Swap: 784M Total, 784M Free PID USERNAME PRI NICE SIZE RES STATE TIME WCPU CPU COMMAND 23684 root 30 0 1976K 944K RUN 0:00 3.08% 0.29% top 904 root 2 -12 1036K 720K select 0:31 0.00% 0.00% xntpd 4163 root 2 0 1468K 1096K select 0:13 0.00% 0.00% httpd-apache_1 3399 root 2 0 1468K 1096K select 0:13 0.00% 0.00% httpd-apache_1 [followup #2] > that value for NMBCLUSTERS is going to be lower than what maxusers at > 512sets it to, try 16384 or leave it up to maxusers. [followup #3] > Hum....that could certainly contribute to load. Have you checked vmstat ^^^^ (he's referring to the number of processes) > to see what the system calls are like (frequency that is). Nothing's blocked, and the other numbers look very similar to much smaller boxes doing nothing: procs memory page disks faults cpu r b w avm fre flt re pi po fr sr da0 fd0 pa0 in sy cs us sy id 0 0 0 106760426976 2 0 0 0 2 0 0 0 0 230 474 155 0 0 99 0 0 0 106760426976 4 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 233 408 136 0 2 98 0 0 0 106760426976 3 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 235 408 136 0 2 98 [followup #4] > what ???? > you are asking why high load ??? > don;t you see you have 500 processes on your box ?? > it's normal to have 3 of load average if you got 500 processes! Here's a snippet from a shell/web server that is doing actual work. It has less memory, a slower processor and a number of interactive users. The load however rarely climbs above 1.0 unless a process goes runaway: last pid: 25042; load averages: 0.38, 0.35, 0.63 13:26:43 301 processes: 1 running, 300 sleeping CPU states: 0.4% user, 0.0% nice, 0.8% system, 0.8% interrupt, 98.1% idle Mem: 119M Active, 44M Inact, 36M Wired, 34M Cache, 6027K Buf, 17M Free Swap: 640M Total, 37M Used, 603M Free, 6% Inuse PID USERNAME PRI NICE SIZE RES STATE TIME WCPU CPU COMMAND 25040 root 28 0 844K 1120K RUN 0:00 1.89% 0.34% top 24823 freddy 2 0 4180K 2964K select 0:00 0.23% 0.23% pine4.21 24919 byman 3 0 796K 1040K ttyin 0:00 0.04% 0.04% tcsh 24537 inch_hom 2 0 640K 872K sbwait 0:00 0.04% 0.04%httpd-1.3.3-us So I'd kind of assume I wouldn't see a radical difference between a machine with 500 idle processes and one that's running 300 and is in active use... So if anyone even has a similarly configured box, I'd love to hear from you. I feel something is wrong here, but I can't find it... Thanks, Charles To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Mon Jan 17 9:52:54 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from tetron02.tetronsoftware.com (ftp.tetronsoftware.com [208.236.46.106]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 72FBF14F08 for ; Mon, 17 Jan 2000 09:52:45 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from zeus@tetronsoftware.com) Received: from tetron02.tetronsoftware.com (ftp.tetronsoftware.com [208.236.46.106]) by tetron02.tetronsoftware.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA22617; Mon, 17 Jan 2000 11:55:13 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from zeus@tetronsoftware.com) Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2000 11:55:08 -0600 (CST) From: Gene Harris To: spork Cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: high load, nothing happening? (LONG) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Ummm... In rc.conf, have you verified that lo0 is in the network interfaces list and not auto? Sorry if this sounds rinky-dink, but it can cause a machine to slow to a crawl. *==============================================* *Gene Harris http://www.tetronsoftware.com* *FreeBSD Novice * *All ORBS.org SMTP connections are denied! * *==============================================* On Mon, 17 Jan 2000, spork wrote: > Hi, > > I'm trying my luck over here, I already posted to -questions without any > resolution. I'm including my original post and below that a summary of > some responses and my answers... > > [begin orginal post] > We just built a large webserver machine (PII-450, 896MB RAM, 30-odd G of > Mylex RAID, 3.3-R) that constantly runs a load of from 1 to 3, even though > it's not doing anything (still sitting as a staging server). The initial > startup is also very slow; after about 40 of the servers start there's > about a 15 second pause, then another 40, pause, etc... > > This box is running about 170 virtual hosts (and a full class C > of addresses aliased to fxp0) under Apache 1.3.9, with each vhost running > as it's own user and starting 3 servers at startup, so there are a large > *number* of processes, but no swapping with about half a gig of RAM left > free. > > I have maxusers at 512, NMBCLUSTERS at 4096, and the following sysctl > adjustments: > > kern.maxproc: 8212 > kern.maxfiles: 100000 kern.maxfilesperproc: 16424 > kern.maxprocperuid: 8211 kern.ipc.somaxconn: 512 > > This is all gathered from various "tuning for a big webserver" posts from > the various FBSD lists. > > systat, vmstat, iostat all look normal, and I've not seen any curious > entries in the logs. > > So that's the info, my questions are "why the load", and "is that OK"? > Something seems wrong here, but I'm at a loss. > > Any ideas where to start looking? > > [followup #1] > > > What does top(1) report? > > last pid: 23684; load averages: 3.74, 1.96, 1.46 up 7+21:10:15 10:35:38 > 449 processes: 1 running, 448 sleeping > CPU states: 0.0% user, 0.0% nice, 2.7% system, 0.0% interrupt, 97.3% idle > Mem: 62M Active, 355M Inact, 45M Wired, 8350K Buf, 418M Free > Swap: 784M Total, 784M Free > > PID USERNAME PRI NICE SIZE RES STATE TIME WCPU CPU COMMAND > 23684 root 30 0 1976K 944K RUN 0:00 3.08% 0.29% top > 904 root 2 -12 1036K 720K select 0:31 0.00% 0.00% xntpd > 4163 root 2 0 1468K 1096K select 0:13 0.00% 0.00% > httpd-apache_1 > 3399 root 2 0 1468K 1096K select 0:13 0.00% 0.00% > httpd-apache_1 > > [followup #2] > > > that value for NMBCLUSTERS is going to be lower than what maxusers at > > 512sets it to, try 16384 or leave it up to maxusers. > > [followup #3] > > > Hum....that could certainly contribute to load. Have you checked vmstat > ^^^^ (he's referring to the number of processes) > > to see what the system calls are like (frequency that is). > > Nothing's blocked, and the other numbers look very similar to much smaller > boxes doing nothing: > > procs memory page disks faults cpu > r b w avm fre flt re pi po fr sr da0 fd0 pa0 in sy cs us sy id > 0 0 0 106760426976 2 0 0 0 2 0 0 0 0 230 474 155 0 0 99 > 0 0 0 106760426976 4 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 233 408 136 0 2 98 > 0 0 0 106760426976 3 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 235 408 136 0 2 98 > > [followup #4] > > > what ???? > > you are asking why high load ??? > > don;t you see you have 500 processes on your box ?? > > it's normal to have 3 of load average if you got 500 processes! > > Here's a snippet from a shell/web server that is doing actual work. It > has less memory, a slower processor and a number of interactive users. > The load however rarely climbs above 1.0 unless a process goes runaway: > > last pid: 25042; load averages: 0.38, 0.35, 0.63 13:26:43 > 301 processes: 1 running, 300 sleeping > CPU states: 0.4% user, 0.0% nice, 0.8% system, 0.8% interrupt, 98.1% idle > Mem: 119M Active, 44M Inact, 36M Wired, 34M Cache, 6027K Buf, 17M Free > Swap: 640M Total, 37M Used, 603M Free, 6% Inuse > > PID USERNAME PRI NICE SIZE RES STATE TIME WCPU CPU COMMAND > 25040 root 28 0 844K 1120K RUN 0:00 1.89% 0.34% top > 24823 freddy 2 0 4180K 2964K select 0:00 0.23% 0.23% pine4.21 > 24919 byman 3 0 796K 1040K ttyin 0:00 0.04% 0.04% tcsh > 24537 inch_hom 2 0 640K 872K sbwait 0:00 0.04% 0.04%httpd-1.3.3-us > > So I'd kind of assume I wouldn't see a radical difference between a > machine with 500 idle processes and one that's running 300 and is in > active use... > > So if anyone even has a similarly configured box, I'd love to hear from > you. I feel something is wrong here, but I can't find it... > > Thanks, > > Charles > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Mon Jan 17 10: 1:21 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from bubba.whistle.com (bubba.whistle.com [207.76.205.7]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7C96915068 for ; Mon, 17 Jan 2000 10:01:17 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from archie@whistle.com) Received: (from archie@localhost) by bubba.whistle.com (8.9.2/8.9.2) id KAA67519; Mon, 17 Jan 2000 10:00:12 -0800 (PST) From: Archie Cobbs Message-Id: <200001171800.KAA67519@bubba.whistle.com> Subject: Re: pptpd and freebsd 3.4s In-Reply-To: <2901.000116@McFlySr.Kurgan.Ru> from Martin McFlySr at "Jan 16, 2000 09:38:38 pm" To: Martin@McFlySr.Kurgan.Ru (Martin McFlySr) Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2000 10:00:12 -0800 (PST) Cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL54 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Martin McFlySr writes: > Hello freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG, > > anybody can run pptpd (1.0.0) on freebsd 3.4stable (with ipfw)? > > after look in ppp.log, it seems that ppp cant get IP address to win98 > client and disconnect sesison :( I haven't tried pptpd. However, the 'mpd-netgraph' port supports the PPTP protocol. However, you should first upgrade to the lastest versions of sys/netgraph/* and rebuild sys/modules/netgraph before using it. -Archie ___________________________________________________________________________ Archie Cobbs * Whistle Communications, Inc. * http://www.whistle.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Mon Jan 17 10: 8:55 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from buffnet4.buffnet.net (buffnet4.buffnet.net [205.246.19.13]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0848414C1D for ; Mon, 17 Jan 2000 10:08:49 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from shovey@buffnet.net) Received: from buffnet11.buffnet.net (buffnet11.buffnet.net [205.246.19.55]) by buffnet4.buffnet.net (8.9.3/8.8.7) with ESMTP id NAA06103; Mon, 17 Jan 2000 13:08:49 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from shovey@buffnet.net) Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2000 13:08:37 -0500 (EST) From: Steve Hovey To: Gene Harris Cc: spork , freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: high load, nothing happening? (LONG) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org The answer here (which I think someone posted) was 449 process running Its probably settings in the apache config - starting too many servers even though they are not being used - throwing you into major swapping - you should only have say 10 or 20, with 5 or 10 spare children, and max throttle so that getting busy doesnt get you crashed. I would have to see a ps -ax to confirm for sure On Mon, 17 Jan 2000, Gene Harris wrote: > Ummm... > > In rc.conf, have you verified that lo0 is in the network > interfaces list and not auto? Sorry if this sounds > rinky-dink, but it can cause a machine to slow to a crawl. > > *==============================================* > *Gene Harris http://www.tetronsoftware.com* > *FreeBSD Novice * > *All ORBS.org SMTP connections are denied! * > *==============================================* > > On Mon, 17 Jan 2000, spork wrote: > > > Hi, > > > > I'm trying my luck over here, I already posted to -questions without any > > resolution. I'm including my original post and below that a summary of > > some responses and my answers... > > > > [begin orginal post] > > We just built a large webserver machine (PII-450, 896MB RAM, 30-odd G of > > Mylex RAID, 3.3-R) that constantly runs a load of from 1 to 3, even though > > it's not doing anything (still sitting as a staging server). The initial > > startup is also very slow; after about 40 of the servers start there's > > about a 15 second pause, then another 40, pause, etc... > > > > This box is running about 170 virtual hosts (and a full class C > > of addresses aliased to fxp0) under Apache 1.3.9, with each vhost running > > as it's own user and starting 3 servers at startup, so there are a large > > *number* of processes, but no swapping with about half a gig of RAM left > > free. > > > > I have maxusers at 512, NMBCLUSTERS at 4096, and the following sysctl > > adjustments: > > > > kern.maxproc: 8212 > > kern.maxfiles: 100000 kern.maxfilesperproc: 16424 > > kern.maxprocperuid: 8211 kern.ipc.somaxconn: 512 > > > > This is all gathered from various "tuning for a big webserver" posts from > > the various FBSD lists. > > > > systat, vmstat, iostat all look normal, and I've not seen any curious > > entries in the logs. > > > > So that's the info, my questions are "why the load", and "is that OK"? > > Something seems wrong here, but I'm at a loss. > > > > Any ideas where to start looking? > > > > [followup #1] > > > > > What does top(1) report? > > > > last pid: 23684; load averages: 3.74, 1.96, 1.46 up 7+21:10:15 10:35:38 > > 449 processes: 1 running, 448 sleeping > > CPU states: 0.0% user, 0.0% nice, 2.7% system, 0.0% interrupt, 97.3% idle > > Mem: 62M Active, 355M Inact, 45M Wired, 8350K Buf, 418M Free > > Swap: 784M Total, 784M Free > > > > PID USERNAME PRI NICE SIZE RES STATE TIME WCPU CPU COMMAND > > 23684 root 30 0 1976K 944K RUN 0:00 3.08% 0.29% top > > 904 root 2 -12 1036K 720K select 0:31 0.00% 0.00% xntpd > > 4163 root 2 0 1468K 1096K select 0:13 0.00% 0.00% > > httpd-apache_1 > > 3399 root 2 0 1468K 1096K select 0:13 0.00% 0.00% > > httpd-apache_1 > > > > [followup #2] > > > > > that value for NMBCLUSTERS is going to be lower than what maxusers at > > > 512sets it to, try 16384 or leave it up to maxusers. > > > > [followup #3] > > > > > Hum....that could certainly contribute to load. Have you checked vmstat > > ^^^^ (he's referring to the number of processes) > > > to see what the system calls are like (frequency that is). > > > > Nothing's blocked, and the other numbers look very similar to much smaller > > boxes doing nothing: > > > > procs memory page disks faults cpu > > r b w avm fre flt re pi po fr sr da0 fd0 pa0 in sy cs us sy id > > 0 0 0 106760426976 2 0 0 0 2 0 0 0 0 230 474 155 0 0 99 > > 0 0 0 106760426976 4 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 233 408 136 0 2 98 > > 0 0 0 106760426976 3 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 235 408 136 0 2 98 > > > > [followup #4] > > > > > what ???? > > > you are asking why high load ??? > > > don;t you see you have 500 processes on your box ?? > > > it's normal to have 3 of load average if you got 500 processes! > > > > Here's a snippet from a shell/web server that is doing actual work. It > > has less memory, a slower processor and a number of interactive users. > > The load however rarely climbs above 1.0 unless a process goes runaway: > > > > last pid: 25042; load averages: 0.38, 0.35, 0.63 13:26:43 > > 301 processes: 1 running, 300 sleeping > > CPU states: 0.4% user, 0.0% nice, 0.8% system, 0.8% interrupt, 98.1% idle > > Mem: 119M Active, 44M Inact, 36M Wired, 34M Cache, 6027K Buf, 17M Free > > Swap: 640M Total, 37M Used, 603M Free, 6% Inuse > > > > PID USERNAME PRI NICE SIZE RES STATE TIME WCPU CPU COMMAND > > 25040 root 28 0 844K 1120K RUN 0:00 1.89% 0.34% top > > 24823 freddy 2 0 4180K 2964K select 0:00 0.23% 0.23% pine4.21 > > 24919 byman 3 0 796K 1040K ttyin 0:00 0.04% 0.04% tcsh > > 24537 inch_hom 2 0 640K 872K sbwait 0:00 0.04% 0.04%httpd-1.3.3-us > > > > So I'd kind of assume I wouldn't see a radical difference between a > > machine with 500 idle processes and one that's running 300 and is in > > active use... > > > > So if anyone even has a similarly configured box, I'd love to hear from > > you. I feel something is wrong here, but I can't find it... > > > > Thanks, > > > > Charles > > > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Mon Jan 17 10:17:50 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from super-g.com (super-g.com [207.240.140.161]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1EDF514EEC for ; Mon, 17 Jan 2000 10:17:46 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from spork@super-g.com) Received: by super-g.com (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 4B6DA10E5E; Mon, 17 Jan 2000 13:17:45 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by super-g.com (Postfix) with SMTP id 3252310E4C; Mon, 17 Jan 2000 13:17:45 -0500 (EST) Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2000 13:17:45 -0500 (EST) From: spork X-Sender: spork@super-g.inch.com To: Gene Harris Cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: high load, nothing happening? (LONG) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Mon, 17 Jan 2000, Gene Harris wrote: > Ummm... > > In rc.conf, have you verified that lo0 is in the network > interfaces list and not auto? Sorry if this sounds > rinky-dink, but it can cause a machine to slow to a crawl. Yep, it's explicitly defined... Thanks though! Charles > *==============================================* > *Gene Harris http://www.tetronsoftware.com* > *FreeBSD Novice * > *All ORBS.org SMTP connections are denied! * > *==============================================* > > On Mon, 17 Jan 2000, spork wrote: > > > Hi, > > > > I'm trying my luck over here, I already posted to -questions without any > > resolution. I'm including my original post and below that a summary of > > some responses and my answers... > > > > [begin orginal post] > > We just built a large webserver machine (PII-450, 896MB RAM, 30-odd G of > > Mylex RAID, 3.3-R) that constantly runs a load of from 1 to 3, even though > > it's not doing anything (still sitting as a staging server). The initial > > startup is also very slow; after about 40 of the servers start there's > > about a 15 second pause, then another 40, pause, etc... > > > > This box is running about 170 virtual hosts (and a full class C > > of addresses aliased to fxp0) under Apache 1.3.9, with each vhost running > > as it's own user and starting 3 servers at startup, so there are a large > > *number* of processes, but no swapping with about half a gig of RAM left > > free. > > > > I have maxusers at 512, NMBCLUSTERS at 4096, and the following sysctl > > adjustments: > > > > kern.maxproc: 8212 > > kern.maxfiles: 100000 kern.maxfilesperproc: 16424 > > kern.maxprocperuid: 8211 kern.ipc.somaxconn: 512 > > > > This is all gathered from various "tuning for a big webserver" posts from > > the various FBSD lists. > > > > systat, vmstat, iostat all look normal, and I've not seen any curious > > entries in the logs. > > > > So that's the info, my questions are "why the load", and "is that OK"? > > Something seems wrong here, but I'm at a loss. > > > > Any ideas where to start looking? > > > > [followup #1] > > > > > What does top(1) report? > > > > last pid: 23684; load averages: 3.74, 1.96, 1.46 up 7+21:10:15 10:35:38 > > 449 processes: 1 running, 448 sleeping > > CPU states: 0.0% user, 0.0% nice, 2.7% system, 0.0% interrupt, 97.3% idle > > Mem: 62M Active, 355M Inact, 45M Wired, 8350K Buf, 418M Free > > Swap: 784M Total, 784M Free > > > > PID USERNAME PRI NICE SIZE RES STATE TIME WCPU CPU COMMAND > > 23684 root 30 0 1976K 944K RUN 0:00 3.08% 0.29% top > > 904 root 2 -12 1036K 720K select 0:31 0.00% 0.00% xntpd > > 4163 root 2 0 1468K 1096K select 0:13 0.00% 0.00% > > httpd-apache_1 > > 3399 root 2 0 1468K 1096K select 0:13 0.00% 0.00% > > httpd-apache_1 > > > > [followup #2] > > > > > that value for NMBCLUSTERS is going to be lower than what maxusers at > > > 512sets it to, try 16384 or leave it up to maxusers. > > > > [followup #3] > > > > > Hum....that could certainly contribute to load. Have you checked vmstat > > ^^^^ (he's referring to the number of processes) > > > to see what the system calls are like (frequency that is). > > > > Nothing's blocked, and the other numbers look very similar to much smaller > > boxes doing nothing: > > > > procs memory page disks faults cpu > > r b w avm fre flt re pi po fr sr da0 fd0 pa0 in sy cs us sy id > > 0 0 0 106760426976 2 0 0 0 2 0 0 0 0 230 474 155 0 0 99 > > 0 0 0 106760426976 4 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 233 408 136 0 2 98 > > 0 0 0 106760426976 3 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 235 408 136 0 2 98 > > > > [followup #4] > > > > > what ???? > > > you are asking why high load ??? > > > don;t you see you have 500 processes on your box ?? > > > it's normal to have 3 of load average if you got 500 processes! > > > > Here's a snippet from a shell/web server that is doing actual work. It > > has less memory, a slower processor and a number of interactive users. > > The load however rarely climbs above 1.0 unless a process goes runaway: > > > > last pid: 25042; load averages: 0.38, 0.35, 0.63 13:26:43 > > 301 processes: 1 running, 300 sleeping > > CPU states: 0.4% user, 0.0% nice, 0.8% system, 0.8% interrupt, 98.1% idle > > Mem: 119M Active, 44M Inact, 36M Wired, 34M Cache, 6027K Buf, 17M Free > > Swap: 640M Total, 37M Used, 603M Free, 6% Inuse > > > > PID USERNAME PRI NICE SIZE RES STATE TIME WCPU CPU COMMAND > > 25040 root 28 0 844K 1120K RUN 0:00 1.89% 0.34% top > > 24823 freddy 2 0 4180K 2964K select 0:00 0.23% 0.23% pine4.21 > > 24919 byman 3 0 796K 1040K ttyin 0:00 0.04% 0.04% tcsh > > 24537 inch_hom 2 0 640K 872K sbwait 0:00 0.04% 0.04%httpd-1.3.3-us > > > > So I'd kind of assume I wouldn't see a radical difference between a > > machine with 500 idle processes and one that's running 300 and is in > > active use... > > > > So if anyone even has a similarly configured box, I'd love to hear from > > you. I feel something is wrong here, but I can't find it... > > > > Thanks, > > > > Charles > > > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Mon Jan 17 10:33:27 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from super-g.com (super-g.com [207.240.140.161]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BF40B14F08 for ; Mon, 17 Jan 2000 10:33:20 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from spork@super-g.com) Received: by super-g.com (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 9162010E5E; Mon, 17 Jan 2000 13:33:19 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by super-g.com (Postfix) with SMTP id 7642F10E4C; Mon, 17 Jan 2000 13:33:19 -0500 (EST) Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2000 13:33:19 -0500 (EST) From: spork X-Sender: spork@super-g.inch.com To: Steve Hovey Cc: Gene Harris , freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG, noc@inch.com Subject: Re: high load, nothing happening? (LONG) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Mon, 17 Jan 2000, Steve Hovey wrote: > The answer here (which I think someone posted) was 449 process running I entertained that thought briefly as well, but I have many other machines (including a public-access shell machine) that run almost that many processes with a load around .30 on lesser hardware. In my previous mail I showed a comparision between the two machines, and it really looks like something is just "wrong" or I'm missing something WRT having so many interface aliases configured. > Its probably settings in the apache config - starting too many servers > even though they are not being used - throwing you into major swapping - > you should only have say 10 or 20, with 5 or 10 spare children, and max > throttle so that getting busy doesnt get you crashed. We actually aren't running one apache with multiple virtuals on this server. This is one config per-customer, each customer's web server running under their own UID. Just a different type of service for people that want such a thing. Each one starts up 2 children and 2 min-spare. Also this machine is currently completely idle... We also have these users currently spread over three very old Pentium 133 boxes and they don't slow at all and generally hover around .10... > I would have to see a ps -ax to confirm for sure Lots of these (130): root@supaweb[/usr/src/sys/compile/SUPAWEB]# ps -auxww | grep root | grep apac root 3338 0.0 0.1 1468 1092 ?? Ss 5Jan00 0:16.64 /usr/local/etc/apache/bin/httpd-apache_current -d /var/www/nadasurf (httpd-apache_1.3) root 3352 0.0 0.1 1468 1112 ?? Ss 5Jan00 0:16.82 /usr/local/etc/apache/bin/httpd-apache_current -d /var/www/acmew (httpd-apache_1.3) root 3357 0.0 0.1 1468 1112 ?? Ss 5Jan00 0:18.06 /usr/local/etc/apache/bin/httpd-apache_current -d /var/www/iaed (httpd-apache_1.3) root@supaweb[/usr/src/sys/compile/SUPAWEB]# ps -auxww | grep -v root | grep apac about 2x as many of these (265): nadasurf 31414 0.0 0.1 1468 1112 ?? I 12:03AM 0:00.00 /usr/local/etc/a pache/bin/httpd-apache_current -d /var/www/nadasurf (httpd-apache_1.3) nadasurf 31415 0.0 0.1 1468 1112 ?? I 12:03AM 0:00.00 /usr/local/etc/a pache/bin/httpd-apache_current -d /var/www/nadasurf (httpd-apache_1.3) china 31421 0.0 0.1 1468 1120 ?? I 12:03AM 0:00.00 /usr/local/etc/a pache/bin/httpd-apache_current -d /var/www/china (httpd-apache_1.3) china 31422 0.0 0.1 1468 1120 ?? I 12:03AM 0:00.00 /usr/local/etc/a pache/bin/httpd-apache_current -d /var/www/china (httpd-apache_1.3) Thanks, Charles > On Mon, 17 Jan 2000, Gene Harris wrote: > > > Ummm... > > > > In rc.conf, have you verified that lo0 is in the network > > interfaces list and not auto? Sorry if this sounds > > rinky-dink, but it can cause a machine to slow to a crawl. > > > > *==============================================* > > *Gene Harris http://www.tetronsoftware.com* > > *FreeBSD Novice * > > *All ORBS.org SMTP connections are denied! * > > *==============================================* > > > > On Mon, 17 Jan 2000, spork wrote: > > > > > Hi, > > > > > > I'm trying my luck over here, I already posted to -questions without any > > > resolution. I'm including my original post and below that a summary of > > > some responses and my answers... > > > > > > [begin orginal post] > > > We just built a large webserver machine (PII-450, 896MB RAM, 30-odd G of > > > Mylex RAID, 3.3-R) that constantly runs a load of from 1 to 3, even though > > > it's not doing anything (still sitting as a staging server). The initial > > > startup is also very slow; after about 40 of the servers start there's > > > about a 15 second pause, then another 40, pause, etc... > > > > > > This box is running about 170 virtual hosts (and a full class C > > > of addresses aliased to fxp0) under Apache 1.3.9, with each vhost running > > > as it's own user and starting 3 servers at startup, so there are a large > > > *number* of processes, but no swapping with about half a gig of RAM left > > > free. > > > > > > I have maxusers at 512, NMBCLUSTERS at 4096, and the following sysctl > > > adjustments: > > > > > > kern.maxproc: 8212 > > > kern.maxfiles: 100000 kern.maxfilesperproc: 16424 > > > kern.maxprocperuid: 8211 kern.ipc.somaxconn: 512 > > > > > > This is all gathered from various "tuning for a big webserver" posts from > > > the various FBSD lists. > > > > > > systat, vmstat, iostat all look normal, and I've not seen any curious > > > entries in the logs. > > > > > > So that's the info, my questions are "why the load", and "is that OK"? > > > Something seems wrong here, but I'm at a loss. > > > > > > Any ideas where to start looking? > > > > > > [followup #1] > > > > > > > What does top(1) report? > > > > > > last pid: 23684; load averages: 3.74, 1.96, 1.46 up 7+21:10:15 10:35:38 > > > 449 processes: 1 running, 448 sleeping > > > CPU states: 0.0% user, 0.0% nice, 2.7% system, 0.0% interrupt, 97.3% idle > > > Mem: 62M Active, 355M Inact, 45M Wired, 8350K Buf, 418M Free > > > Swap: 784M Total, 784M Free > > > > > > PID USERNAME PRI NICE SIZE RES STATE TIME WCPU CPU COMMAND > > > 23684 root 30 0 1976K 944K RUN 0:00 3.08% 0.29% top > > > 904 root 2 -12 1036K 720K select 0:31 0.00% 0.00% xntpd > > > 4163 root 2 0 1468K 1096K select 0:13 0.00% 0.00% > > > httpd-apache_1 > > > 3399 root 2 0 1468K 1096K select 0:13 0.00% 0.00% > > > httpd-apache_1 > > > > > > [followup #2] > > > > > > > that value for NMBCLUSTERS is going to be lower than what maxusers at > > > > 512sets it to, try 16384 or leave it up to maxusers. > > > > > > [followup #3] > > > > > > > Hum....that could certainly contribute to load. Have you checked vmstat > > > ^^^^ (he's referring to the number of processes) > > > > to see what the system calls are like (frequency that is). > > > > > > Nothing's blocked, and the other numbers look very similar to much smaller > > > boxes doing nothing: > > > > > > procs memory page disks faults cpu > > > r b w avm fre flt re pi po fr sr da0 fd0 pa0 in sy cs us sy id > > > 0 0 0 106760426976 2 0 0 0 2 0 0 0 0 230 474 155 0 0 99 > > > 0 0 0 106760426976 4 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 233 408 136 0 2 98 > > > 0 0 0 106760426976 3 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 235 408 136 0 2 98 > > > > > > [followup #4] > > > > > > > what ???? > > > > you are asking why high load ??? > > > > don;t you see you have 500 processes on your box ?? > > > > it's normal to have 3 of load average if you got 500 processes! > > > > > > Here's a snippet from a shell/web server that is doing actual work. It > > > has less memory, a slower processor and a number of interactive users. > > > The load however rarely climbs above 1.0 unless a process goes runaway: > > > > > > last pid: 25042; load averages: 0.38, 0.35, 0.63 13:26:43 > > > 301 processes: 1 running, 300 sleeping > > > CPU states: 0.4% user, 0.0% nice, 0.8% system, 0.8% interrupt, 98.1% idle > > > Mem: 119M Active, 44M Inact, 36M Wired, 34M Cache, 6027K Buf, 17M Free > > > Swap: 640M Total, 37M Used, 603M Free, 6% Inuse > > > > > > PID USERNAME PRI NICE SIZE RES STATE TIME WCPU CPU COMMAND > > > 25040 root 28 0 844K 1120K RUN 0:00 1.89% 0.34% top > > > 24823 freddy 2 0 4180K 2964K select 0:00 0.23% 0.23% pine4.21 > > > 24919 byman 3 0 796K 1040K ttyin 0:00 0.04% 0.04% tcsh > > > 24537 inch_hom 2 0 640K 872K sbwait 0:00 0.04% 0.04%httpd-1.3.3-us > > > > > > So I'd kind of assume I wouldn't see a radical difference between a > > > machine with 500 idle processes and one that's running 300 and is in > > > active use... > > > > > > So if anyone even has a similarly configured box, I'd love to hear from > > > you. I feel something is wrong here, but I can't find it... > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > > > Charles > > > > > > > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > > > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message > > > > > > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Mon Jan 17 10:45:18 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mailtoaster1.pipeline.ch (mailtoaster1.pipeline.ch [62.48.0.70]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id BF6E414F7C for ; Mon, 17 Jan 2000 10:45:13 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from oppermann@pipeline.ch) Received: (qmail 25996 invoked from network); 17 Jan 2000 18:43:13 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO pipeline.ch) ([195.134.128.41]) (envelope-sender ) by mailtoaster1.pipeline.ch (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for ; 17 Jan 2000 18:43:13 -0000 Message-ID: <3883630C.B7B5B1E9@pipeline.ch> Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2000 19:44:28 +0100 From: Andre Oppermann X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.03 [en] (WinNT; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Archie Cobbs Cc: Martin McFlySr , freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: pptpd and freebsd 3.4s References: <200001171800.KAA67519@bubba.whistle.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Archie Cobbs wrote: > > Martin McFlySr writes: > > Hello freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG, > > > > anybody can run pptpd (1.0.0) on freebsd 3.4stable (with ipfw)? > > > > after look in ppp.log, it seems that ppp cant get IP address to win98 > > client and disconnect sesison :( > > I haven't tried pptpd. However, the 'mpd-netgraph' port supports > the PPTP protocol. However, you should first upgrade to the lastest > versions of sys/netgraph/* and rebuild sys/modules/netgraph before > using it. Yea, but no encrytion of VPN traffic... :-( -- Andre To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Mon Jan 17 10:56:11 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mail.fil.net (mail.fil.net [202.57.102.7]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 425501501A for ; Mon, 17 Jan 2000 10:55:58 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from aLan@fil.net) Received: from fil.net ([202.57.102.6]) by mail.fil.net (Netscape Messaging Server 3.62) with ESMTP id 247; Tue, 18 Jan 2000 02:55:29 +0800 Message-ID: <3883659B.55783446@fil.net> Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2000 02:55:23 +0800 From: "aLan Tait" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.6 [en] (WinNT; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Troy Settle Cc: ndear@areti.net, Thierry.Herbelot@alcatel.fr, freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Bandwidth limiting on Switch. References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Yep, do it all the time... ipfw show and ipfw pipe show Troy Settle wrote: > > Something I've been meaning to ask... > > Can one monitor bandwidth as well as limit it with dummynet? > > -Troy > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG > > [mailto:owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG]On Behalf Of aLan Tait > > Sent: Sunday, January 16, 2000 19:28 > > To: ndear@areti.net > > Cc: Thierry.Herbelot@alcatel.fr; freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG > > Subject: Re: Bandwidth limiting on Switch. > > > > > > I've got dummynet running in a different way. Since > > bandwidth is very expensive here in the rural areas of the > > Philippines, I allocate bandwidth in 1.5K chuncks (starting > > at 4.5K)! Then I use a 10M pipe to bypass this to a sibling > > proxy. Anything on the Proxy is high-speed, anything else > > is the speed they pay for. > > > > At 32K chuncks you won't have any problem with dummynet! > > For something you don't even have to recompile, read on! > > > > ****************************** > > If you want something really cheap that still works... > > > > STEP 1 > > Go to Luigi's page: > > http://www.iet.unipi.it/~luigi/ > > Follow the link to Dummynet. > > Look for: "Dummynet, bridging and PicoBSD" > > Download the .bin file > > Put it on a floppy disk with fdimage.exe in DOS or Windows > > (from the FreeBSD CD #1 - or download it) or use DD in Unix. > > > > STEP 2 > > Get a computer (I used a retired P-120 with 64 MB) > > Put TWO 10BaseT Network cards in it (I used D-Link PCI > > cards) > > Make sure you have a 1.2M Floppy drive (no hard drive > > needed!) > > Turn on Computer! > > > > You now have a working bandwidth limiter! > > Set your rules in the rc.firewall under "luigi" per > > instructions on the above page (follow the examples there in > > rc.firewall - there is one for a 30K pipe - it is real > > easy). > > > > You "should" make some changes in the rc.conf and > > resolv.conf files, but I'll tell you, it really worked - > > FIRST TIME - right after boot! > > > > The Floppy is fully loaded into memory and can be removed > > after boot (a nice security thing!). Oh - be sure to mount > > the floppy and cp your changed files onto the floppy's > > (/start_floppy/etc) or they won't be there the next time you > > boot! The same goes with master.passwd - when you shut off > > the machine - all changes (in memory) are lost - you MUST > > save them to the start_floppy! You can use /etc/fstab as > > the road map! > > > > Any problems? I'd be glad to help (just remember that I am > > busy running an ISP!). > > Any PRAISE? - Send it to Luigi (who deserves it!). > > > > By the way, I later transfered to a hard drive so I could > > add some more things (besides dummynet) that wouldn't fit on > > one floppy. Now the drive boots, load everything into > > memory, then spins down in one minute (power saver in bios) > > and... > > *** RUNS COMPLETELY IN MEMORY! - VERY FAST on a cheap > > machine. > > > > If you follow the picobsd roadmap, you could build this on a > > bigger machine at 100BaseT speeds using FreeBSD with no > > problem - I just don't have the need for that kind of speed! > > > > Lan > > > > -- > > ----------------------------------- > > Filipino Network Solution - Fil.Net > > ----------------------------------- > > > > ********************************************************* > > *** I switched to FreeBSD from When?Doze because... *** > > *** I never knew When? - It was going to Doze! ;) *** > > ********************************************************* > > > > Thierry.Herbelot@alcatel.fr wrote: > > > > > > Hello, > > > > > > with bandwidth in the order of n*64kbps, you may want to > > investigate dummynet, which is a function of the TCP/IP stack of > > FreeBSD, which does exactly what you want to do (and which is free). > > > > > > beware : you will have to compile a new kernel for FreeBSD, so > > if this seems too adventurous for you, take some competent guy to > > do it for you (anyway, you will find a good handbook on www.freebsd.org) > > > > > > TfH > > > > > > "Nicholas J. Dear" on 14/01/2000 13:19:13 > > > > > > Please respond to ndear@areti.net > > > > > > > > > > > > To: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG > > > > > > cc: (bcc: Thierry HERBELOT/FR/ALCATEL) > > > > > > > > > > > > Subject: Bandwidth limiting on Switch. > > > > > > > > > Hi, > > > > > > We're about to start doing some co-location, and we will need > > to restrict the > > > bandwidth to each machine. I'm assuming we need some sort of switch with > > > bandwidth throttling capabilities? > > > > > > We'd need to throttle from 32K, or 64K upwards, in 64K increments. > > > > > > Could anyone recommend a particular product, or how they do the job? > > > TIA. > > > N. > > > -- > > > Nicholas J. Dear > > > Mail: ndear@areti.net Tel: +44 (0)20-8402-4041 > > > Areti Internet Ltd., http://www.areti.co.uk/ > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message > > -- ----------------------------------- Filipino Network Solution - Fil.Net ----------------------------------- ********************************************************* *** I switched to FreeBSD from When?Doze because... *** *** I never knew When? - It was going to Doze! ;) *** ********************************************************* To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Mon Jan 17 11: 3:23 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from bubba.whistle.com (bubba.whistle.com [207.76.205.7]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3D5E315258 for ; Mon, 17 Jan 2000 11:03:16 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from archie@whistle.com) Received: (from archie@localhost) by bubba.whistle.com (8.9.2/8.9.2) id LAA67759; Mon, 17 Jan 2000 11:02:27 -0800 (PST) From: Archie Cobbs Message-Id: <200001171902.LAA67759@bubba.whistle.com> Subject: Re: pptpd and freebsd 3.4s In-Reply-To: <3883630C.B7B5B1E9@pipeline.ch> from Andre Oppermann at "Jan 17, 2000 07:44:28 pm" To: oppermann@pipeline.ch (Andre Oppermann) Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2000 11:02:27 -0800 (PST) Cc: archie@whistle.com (Archie Cobbs), Martin@McFlySr.Kurgan.Ru (Martin McFlySr), freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL54 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Andre Oppermann writes: > > I haven't tried pptpd. However, the 'mpd-netgraph' port supports > > the PPTP protocol. However, you should first upgrade to the lastest > > versions of sys/netgraph/* and rebuild sys/modules/netgraph before > > using it. > > Yea, but no encrytion of VPN traffic... :-( Pretty close though.. I can email you ng_mppc.c that mpd supports for MPPC encryption (weak, but better than nothing and MSoft compatible). You just need to install a sys/crypt/rc4.c and sys/crypt/sha1.c. I'm sortof waiting for the same to show up in the international crypto repository, and then I'll check it (ng_mppc.c) in. -Archie ___________________________________________________________________________ Archie Cobbs * Whistle Communications, Inc. * http://www.whistle.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Mon Jan 17 11: 5:40 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from cliff.i-plus.net (cliff.i-plus.net [209.100.20.42]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 36A111529F for ; Mon, 17 Jan 2000 11:05:22 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from troy@picus.com) Received: from ARCADIA (arcadia.i-plus.net [209.100.20.198]) by cliff.i-plus.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id OAA69021 for ; Mon, 17 Jan 2000 14:05:20 -0500 (EST) From: "Troy Settle" To: "FreeBSD ISP" Subject: Frontpage Extensions (again?) Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2000 14:05:56 -0500 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.5600 Importance: Normal Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hey all, Some time ago, someone posted a URL to an alternative patch for adding Frontpage extensions into apache. For the life of me, I can't seem to track it down in the list archive. If anyone has a reference to this, please let me know ASAP. TIA, Troy To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Mon Jan 17 11: 9:53 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mailtoaster1.pipeline.ch (mailtoaster1.pipeline.ch [62.48.0.70]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 589FC14D0C for ; Mon, 17 Jan 2000 11:09:43 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from oppermann@pipeline.ch) Received: (qmail 26147 invoked from network); 17 Jan 2000 19:07:36 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO pipeline.ch) ([195.134.128.41]) (envelope-sender ) by mailtoaster1.pipeline.ch (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for ; 17 Jan 2000 19:07:36 -0000 Message-ID: <388368C3.3FBB9279@pipeline.ch> Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2000 20:08:51 +0100 From: Andre Oppermann X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.03 [en] (WinNT; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Archie Cobbs Cc: Martin McFlySr , freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: pptpd and freebsd 3.4s References: <200001171902.LAA67759@bubba.whistle.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Archie Cobbs wrote: > > Andre Oppermann writes: > > > I haven't tried pptpd. However, the 'mpd-netgraph' port supports > > > the PPTP protocol. However, you should first upgrade to the lastest > > > versions of sys/netgraph/* and rebuild sys/modules/netgraph before > > > using it. > > > > Yea, but no encrytion of VPN traffic... :-( > > Pretty close though.. I can email you ng_mppc.c that mpd supports > for MPPC encryption (weak, but better than nothing and MSoft compatible). > You just need to install a sys/crypt/rc4.c and sys/crypt/sha1.c. > > I'm sortof waiting for the same to show up in the international > crypto repository, and then I'll check it (ng_mppc.c) in. Ah, well, that is supposed to happen soon? I think I can wait that long. My fear was that this was never going to happen due to some brain damaged export restrictions of an unamed country in the western hemisphere... Thanks -- Andre To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Mon Jan 17 11:15:53 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from bubba.whistle.com (bubba.whistle.com [207.76.205.7]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BBCC014C56 for ; Mon, 17 Jan 2000 11:15:50 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from archie@whistle.com) Received: (from archie@localhost) by bubba.whistle.com (8.9.2/8.9.2) id LAA67796; Mon, 17 Jan 2000 11:15:43 -0800 (PST) From: Archie Cobbs Message-Id: <200001171915.LAA67796@bubba.whistle.com> Subject: Re: WAN Interface... In-Reply-To: <4.2.1.20000110123548.00dfd700@arthur.intraceptives.com.au> from Warren Welch at "Jan 10, 2000 12:40:36 pm" To: wwlists@intraceptives.com.au (Warren Welch) Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2000 11:15:43 -0800 (PST) Cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL54 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Warren Welch writes: > I'm looking for a WAN interface (X21 or V35) for FreeBSD, preferably one > that has some sort of frame-relay support. (What's FreeBSD's capabilities > like with frame-relay?) Cards supported by the ar(4) and sr(4) drivers work with FreeBSD, and you can do frame relay using netgraph. See /usr/share/examples/netgraph/frame_relay for an example. -Archie ___________________________________________________________________________ Archie Cobbs * Whistle Communications, Inc. * http://www.whistle.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Mon Jan 17 11:19:29 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from web2.tccsweb.com (h-209-91-78-12.gen.cadvision.com [209.91.78.12]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F1AE714D5D for ; Mon, 17 Jan 2000 11:19:24 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from brentr@tccsweb.com) Received: from localhost (brentr@localhost) by web2.tccsweb.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA19881; Mon, 17 Jan 2000 12:34:42 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from brentr@tccsweb.com) Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2000 12:34:41 -0700 (MST) From: Brent Rector To: Troy Settle Cc: FreeBSD ISP Subject: Re: Frontpage Extensions (again?) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I think you are looking for: ftp://www.westbend.net/pub/apache-fp/port/ Brent -------------------------------------------------------------------------- Brent L. Rector SoHo Internet Services & TCCSweb SysAdmin (604) 979-2141 brentr@tccsweb.com http://www.tccsweb.com -------------------------------------------------------------------------- Your mouse has moved. Windows must be restarted for the change to take effect. Reboot now? [ OK ] -------------------------------------------------------------------------- On Mon, 17 Jan 2000, Troy Settle wrote: > > Hey all, > > Some time ago, someone posted a URL to an alternative patch for adding > Frontpage extensions into apache. For the life of me, I can't seem to track > it down in the list archive. > > If anyone has a reference to this, please let me know ASAP. > > > TIA, > > Troy > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Mon Jan 17 11:30:57 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from cronus.medianetwork.se (cronus.medianetwork.se [193.14.204.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 27A7414A14 for ; Mon, 17 Jan 2000 11:30:51 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from dl@tyfon.net) Received: from junglenote.com (digital01.medianetwork.se [193.14.204.219]) by cronus.medianetwork.se (8.9.3/8.7) with ESMTP id UAA17836 for ; Mon, 17 Jan 2000 20:30:54 +0100 Received: from enigmatic by junglenote.com with SMTP (MDaemon.v2.84.R) for ; Mon, 17 Jan 2000 20:42:57 +0100 Received: by localhost with Microsoft MAPI; Mon, 17 Jan 2000 20:42:56 +0100 Message-ID: <01BF612B.6F2E5A60.dl@tyfon.net> From: Dan Larsson To: "'troy@picus.com'" , FreeBSD ISP Subject: SV: Frontpage Extensions (again?) Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2000 20:42:55 +0100 Organization: Tyfon Internet Services [ http://tyfon.net ] X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet-e-post/MAPI - 8.0.0.4211 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-MDaemon-Deliver-To: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG X-Return-Path: dl@tyfon.net Reply-To: dl@tyfon.net Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org This one? http://freebsd.lanfear.com/howtos/frontpage.html Regards ------------ Dan Larsson =20 > -----Ursprungligt meddelande----- > Fr=E5n: Troy Settle [SMTP:troy@picus.com] > Skickat: den 17 januari 2000 20:06 > Till: FreeBSD ISP > =C4mne: Frontpage Extensions (again?) >=20 >=20 > Hey all, >=20 > Some time ago, someone posted a URL to an alternative patch for adding > Frontpage extensions into apache. For the life of me, I can't seem to = track > it down in the list archive. >=20 > If anyone has a reference to this, please let me know ASAP. >=20 >=20 > TIA, >=20 > Troy >=20 >=20 >=20 > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Mon Jan 17 11:34:52 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from bubba.whistle.com (bubba.whistle.com [207.76.205.7]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 33FFF14EED for ; Mon, 17 Jan 2000 11:34:50 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from archie@whistle.com) Received: (from archie@localhost) by bubba.whistle.com (8.9.2/8.9.2) id LAA67909; Mon, 17 Jan 2000 11:33:35 -0800 (PST) From: Archie Cobbs Message-Id: <200001171933.LAA67909@bubba.whistle.com> Subject: Re: pptpd and freebsd 3.4s In-Reply-To: <388368C3.3FBB9279@pipeline.ch> from Andre Oppermann at "Jan 17, 2000 08:08:51 pm" To: oppermann@pipeline.ch (Andre Oppermann) Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2000 11:33:35 -0800 (PST) Cc: archie@whistle.com (Archie Cobbs), Martin@McFlySr.Kurgan.Ru (Martin McFlySr), freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL54 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Andre Oppermann writes: > > > Yea, but no encrytion of VPN traffic... :-( > > > > Pretty close though.. I can email you ng_mppc.c that mpd supports > > for MPPC encryption (weak, but better than nothing and MSoft compatible). > > You just need to install a sys/crypt/rc4.c and sys/crypt/sha1.c. > > > > I'm sortof waiting for the same to show up in the international > > crypto repository, and then I'll check it (ng_mppc.c) in. > > Ah, well, that is supposed to happen soon? I think I can wait that > long. My fear was that this was never going to happen due to some > brain damaged export restrictions of an unamed country in the western > hemisphere... I don't know when... if you don't want to wait, I'll email you ng_mppc.c and you can find & install rc4.c and sha1.c yourself (shouldn't be too hard to find, try e.g. OpenSSL). -Archie ___________________________________________________________________________ Archie Cobbs * Whistle Communications, Inc. * http://www.whistle.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Mon Jan 17 11:45:35 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from intranova.net (blacklisted.intranova.net [209.3.31.70]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 8AA9114BC6 for ; Mon, 17 Jan 2000 11:45:31 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from oogali@intranova.net) Received: (qmail 88277 invoked from network); 17 Jan 2000 14:47:40 -0000 Received: from hydrant.intranova.net (user73509@209.201.95.10) by blacklisted.intranova.net with SMTP; 17 Jan 2000 14:47:40 -0000 Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2000 14:42:44 -0500 (EST) From: Omachonu Ogali To: Troy Settle Cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: RE: Bandwidth limiting on Switch. In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org The first number is packets and the seconds is bytes. Omachonu Ogali Intranova Networking Group On Mon, 17 Jan 2000, Troy Settle wrote: > > Ok, ipfw show gives me numbers... are those packets or bytes? The man page > doesn't say. > > For bandwidth monitoring, I was thinking something more along the lines of > being able to access a byte counter via SNMP, ala MRTG. > > -Troy > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG > > [mailto:owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG]On Behalf Of > > Thierry.Herbelot@alcatel.fr > > Sent: Monday, January 17, 2000 08:29 > > To: Troy Settle > > Cc: aLan Tait; ndear@areti.net; freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG > > Subject: RE: Bandwidth limiting on Switch. > > > > > > > > > > "ipfw show" should make do > > > > TfH > > > > > > > > > > "Troy Settle" on 17/01/2000 14:06:22 > > > > > > > > To: "aLan Tait" , ndear@areti.net > > > > cc: Thierry HERBELOT/FR/ALCATEL@ALCATEL, > > freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG > > > > > > > > Subject: RE: Bandwidth limiting on Switch. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Something I've been meaning to ask... > > > > Can one monitor bandwidth as well as limit it with dummynet? > > > > -Troy > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Mon Jan 17 11:45:49 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from cliff.i-plus.net (cliff.i-plus.net [209.100.20.42]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1213D14A2D for ; Mon, 17 Jan 2000 11:45:32 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from st@i-plus.net) Received: from ARCADIA (arcadia.i-plus.net [209.100.20.198]) by cliff.i-plus.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id OAA73148 for ; Mon, 17 Jan 2000 14:45:31 -0500 (EST) From: "Troy Settle" To: "FreeBSD ISP" Subject: RE: Frontpage Extensions (again?) Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2000 14:46:08 -0500 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.5600 In-Reply-To: Importance: Normal Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Ugh.. Ok, so far, 2 responses. Thank you, I appreciate, but neither is quite what I'm looking for (I don't think) The first one refers to a port that I've already tried disecting. The second refers to a *very* insecure way of adding the extensions. What I'm trying to do, is avoid the MS/RTR patches copmletely. I know there's no real way around using their code for /usr/local/frontpage/*, but I'm willing to accept that part. What's driving me crazy, is that apache13-fp and apache13-php both build and run beautifully, but but neither has the features of the other, and they're both wanting to install to different places, and their patches are incompatible. If I can't figure out a clean way to patch the apache13-php3 port, I'll have to do this by hand, and I'm desperately trying to avoid that if possible. Everything I need is in the ports, except apache+php+fp :( TIA, Troy PS: if all else fails, I'll skip the FP stuff, and install samba and access the files that way :) ** -----Original Message----- ** From: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG ** [mailto:owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG]On Behalf Of Troy Settle ** Sent: Monday, January 17, 2000 2:06 PM ** To: FreeBSD ISP ** Subject: Frontpage Extensions (again?) ** ** ** ** Hey all, ** ** Some time ago, someone posted a URL to an alternative patch for adding ** Frontpage extensions into apache. For the life of me, I can't ** seem to track ** it down in the list archive. ** ** If anyone has a reference to this, please let me know ASAP. ** ** ** TIA, ** ** Troy ** ** ** ** To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org ** with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message ** To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Mon Jan 17 11:46:23 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from intranova.net (blacklisted.intranova.net [209.3.31.70]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 165C814FCE for ; Mon, 17 Jan 2000 11:46:20 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from oogali@intranova.net) Received: (qmail 88738 invoked from network); 17 Jan 2000 14:48:29 -0000 Received: from hydrant.intranova.net (user68711@209.201.95.10) by blacklisted.intranova.net with SMTP; 17 Jan 2000 14:48:29 -0000 Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2000 14:43:32 -0500 (EST) From: Omachonu Ogali To: matt Cc: Luigi Rizzo , Rowan Crowe , freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Bandwidth limiting on Switch. In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Enter into syslog.conf !ipfw *.* /var/log/ipfw That should help. Omachonu Ogali Intranova Networking Group On Mon, 17 Jan 2000, matt wrote: > I'm wondering, off topic a little bit, is there any plan to clean up (in > my opinion) ipfw, and perhaps give it a syslog level, or anything other > then logging to the system message buf? > > -Matt > > On Mon, 17 Jan 2000, Luigi Rizzo wrote: > > : Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2000 08:21:21 -0500 > : From: Luigi Rizzo > : To: Rowan Crowe > : Cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG > : Subject: Re: Bandwidth limiting on Switch. > : > : > > Can one monitor bandwidth as well as limit it with dummynet? > : > Dummynet is part of (or configured via) ipfw, so you can just add in an > : > identical 'count' ipfw rule... > : > > : > It would be handy if we could specify dummynet pipes as an interface, to > : > : The new dummynet code in 4.0 (soon to go into 3.4) lets you do > : this as it has counters associated to pipes, and it also gives you > : the ability to define masks and create separate pipes per each flow, > : so you can basically do counting with something like > : > : ipfw add pipe 1 ip from any to any > : ipfw pipe 1 config mask src-ip 0xffffffff bw 60Kbit/s > : > : so you can have per-host accounting, and the like. Kind of the things > : you can do with trafshow/ntop but this is in-kernel so it is > : interface-independent. > : > : cheers > : luigi > : -----------------------------------+------------------------------------- > : Luigi RIZZO, luigi@iet.unipi.it . Dip. di Ing. dell'Informazione > : http://www.iet.unipi.it/~luigi/ . Universita` di Pisa > : TEL/FAX: +39-050-568.533/522 . via Diotisalvi 2, 56126 PISA (Italy) > : Mobile +39-347-0373137 > : -----------------------------------+------------------------------------- > : > : > : To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > : with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message > : > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Mon Jan 17 11:48:23 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from intranova.net (blacklisted.intranova.net [209.3.31.70]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 6506F14BFF for ; Mon, 17 Jan 2000 11:48:21 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from oogali@intranova.net) Received: (qmail 90088 invoked from network); 17 Jan 2000 14:50:30 -0000 Received: from hydrant.intranova.net (user97894@209.201.95.10) by blacklisted.intranova.net with SMTP; 17 Jan 2000 14:50:30 -0000 Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2000 14:45:34 -0500 (EST) From: Omachonu Ogali To: Troy Settle Cc: FreeBSD ISP Subject: Re: Frontpage Extensions (again?) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org It might have been: - ftp://missinglink.darkorb.net/pub/frontpage/ Omachonu Ogali Intranova Networking Group On Mon, 17 Jan 2000, Troy Settle wrote: > > Hey all, > > Some time ago, someone posted a URL to an alternative patch for adding > Frontpage extensions into apache. For the life of me, I can't seem to track > it down in the list archive. > > If anyone has a reference to this, please let me know ASAP. > > > TIA, > > Troy > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Mon Jan 17 11:57:34 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from roadrunner.ptcweb.net (roadrunner.ptcweb.net [208.232.10.11]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1C23914BFF for ; Mon, 17 Jan 2000 11:57:30 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jrogers@ptcweb.net) Received: by roadrunner.ptcweb.net with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) id ; Mon, 17 Jan 2000 13:58:29 -0600 Message-ID: <01DA5B2F7781D1118B4900A0C98C76B821CCE6@roadrunner.ptcweb.net> From: Jules Rogers To: 'Troy Settle' Cc: "'freebsd-isp@freebsd.org'" Subject: RE: Frontpage Extensions (again?) Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2000 13:58:19 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Try FreeBSD Diary. http://www.freebsddiary.org/freebsd/frontpage2000.htm http://www.freebsddiary.org/freebsd/apachefpssl.htm http://www.freebsddiary.org/freebsd/fpext2000.htm http://www.freebsddiary.org/freebsd/fpsecurity.htm -----Original Message----- From: Troy Settle [mailto:st@i-plus.net] Sent: Monday, January 17, 2000 1:46 PM To: FreeBSD ISP Subject: RE: Frontpage Extensions (again?) Ugh.. Ok, so far, 2 responses. Thank you, I appreciate, but neither is quite what I'm looking for (I don't think) The first one refers to a port that I've already tried disecting. The second refers to a *very* insecure way of adding the extensions. What I'm trying to do, is avoid the MS/RTR patches copmletely. I know there's no real way around using their code for /usr/local/frontpage/*, but I'm willing to accept that part. What's driving me crazy, is that apache13-fp and apache13-php both build and run beautifully, but but neither has the features of the other, and they're both wanting to install to different places, and their patches are incompatible. If I can't figure out a clean way to patch the apache13-php3 port, I'll have to do this by hand, and I'm desperately trying to avoid that if possible. Everything I need is in the ports, except apache+php+fp :( TIA, Troy PS: if all else fails, I'll skip the FP stuff, and install samba and access the files that way :) ** -----Original Message----- ** From: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG ** [mailto:owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG]On Behalf Of Troy Settle ** Sent: Monday, January 17, 2000 2:06 PM ** To: FreeBSD ISP ** Subject: Frontpage Extensions (again?) ** ** ** ** Hey all, ** ** Some time ago, someone posted a URL to an alternative patch for adding ** Frontpage extensions into apache. For the life of me, I can't ** seem to track ** it down in the list archive. ** ** If anyone has a reference to this, please let me know ASAP. ** ** ** TIA, ** ** Troy ** ** ** ** To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org ** with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message ** To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Mon Jan 17 12:20:53 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mail5.uunet.ca (mail5.uunet.ca [142.77.1.28]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6C39F14E4D for ; Mon, 17 Jan 2000 12:20:46 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from matt@ARPA.MAIL.NET) Received: from w01.arpa-canada.net ([216.95.146.6]) by mail5.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <232258-2695>; Mon, 17 Jan 2000 15:19:08 -0500 Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2000 15:17:58 -0500 From: matt X-Sender: matt@w01.arpa-canada.net To: Omachonu Ogali Cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Bandwidth limiting on Switch. In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Yes I know one can do that. However, in order for ipfw to log at all, you have to add 'log' in the ipfw line, which also pumps everything out to the system message buffer (dmesg) which is unacceptable =/ -Matt On Mon, 17 Jan 2000, Omachonu Ogali wrote: : Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2000 14:43:32 -0500 : From: Omachonu Ogali : To: matt : Cc: Luigi Rizzo , : Rowan Crowe , freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG : Subject: Re: Bandwidth limiting on Switch. : : Enter into syslog.conf : : !ipfw : *.* /var/log/ipfw : : That should help. : : Omachonu Ogali : Intranova Networking Group To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Mon Jan 17 12:26:50 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from cliff.i-plus.net (cliff.i-plus.net [209.100.20.42]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0B75314E14 for ; Mon, 17 Jan 2000 12:26:42 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from st@i-plus.net) Received: from ARCADIA (arcadia.i-plus.net [209.100.20.198]) by cliff.i-plus.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id PAA77337; Mon, 17 Jan 2000 15:26:36 -0500 (EST) From: "Troy Settle" To: "Omachonu Ogali" Cc: "FreeBSD ISP" Subject: RE: Frontpage Extensions (again?) Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2000 15:27:13 -0500 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.5600 In-Reply-To: Importance: Normal Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I think we have a winner... not what I was looking for, but the patch went into the apache13-php3 port easily, and I'm happy with it. Thank you Omachonu, I appreciate it muchly. -Troy ** -----Original Message----- ** From: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG ** [mailto:owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG]On Behalf Of Omachonu Ogali ** Sent: Monday, January 17, 2000 2:46 PM ** To: Troy Settle ** Cc: FreeBSD ISP ** Subject: Re: Frontpage Extensions (again?) ** ** ** It might have been: ** - ftp://missinglink.darkorb.net/pub/frontpage/ ** ** Omachonu Ogali ** Intranova Networking Group ** ** On Mon, 17 Jan 2000, Troy Settle wrote: ** ** > ** > Hey all, ** > ** > Some time ago, someone posted a URL to an alternative patch for adding ** > Frontpage extensions into apache. For the life of me, I can't ** seem to track ** > it down in the list archive. ** > ** > If anyone has a reference to this, please let me know ASAP. ** > ** > ** > TIA, ** > ** > Troy ** > ** > ** > ** > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org ** > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message ** > ** ** ** ** To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org ** with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message ** To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Mon Jan 17 16:14:46 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from ns3.khmere.com (216-59-86-175.usa2.flashcom.net [216.59.86.175]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 319231503C for ; Mon, 17 Jan 2000 16:14:40 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from nathan@khmere.com) Received: from khmere.com (my_werk.getrevelant.com [63.211.149.51]) by ns3.khmere.com (8.9.2/8.8.7) with ESMTP id AAA07765 for ; Tue, 18 Jan 2000 00:14:42 GMT Message-ID: <3883B045.134D0E22@khmere.com> Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2000 16:13:57 -0800 From: Nathan Organization: Getrelevant X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (X11; I; Linux 2.2.13_SIS i686) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: [Fwd: Fwd: high load, nothing happening? (LONG)] Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------C212CAC3CBE4E039D58C540A" Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------C212CAC3CBE4E039D58C540A Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I have a question.... I noticed that your box has a Mylex card in it ? is this right ? I thought that thier is no support for Mylex cards in FreeBSD..... or am I wrong ? or is this an external raid card ? thank you nathan --------------C212CAC3CBE4E039D58C540A Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Return-Path: MJS@getrelevant.com Received: from freefall.impresso.com (freefall.connectinc.com [206.132.164.131]) by ns3.khmere.com (8.9.2/8.8.7) with ESMTP id AAA07753 for ; Tue, 18 Jan 2000 00:06:38 GMT Received: (from inetgate@localhost) by freefall.impresso.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id QAA16996; Mon, 17 Jan 2000 16:00:47 -0800 (PST) Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2000 16:00:47 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <200001180000.QAA16996@freefall.impresso.com> From: Mark Steckel Subject: Fwd: high load, nothing happening? (LONG) X-Mozilla-Status2: 00000000 >Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org >Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2000 12:30:55 -0500 (EST) >From: spork >X-Sender: spork@super-g.inch.com >To: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG >Cc: noc@inch.com >Subject: high load, nothing happening? (LONG) >Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG >X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > >Hi, > >I'm trying my luck over here, I already posted to -questions without any >resolution. I'm including my original post and below that a summary of >some responses and my answers... > >[begin orginal post] >We just built a large webserver machine (PII-450, 896MB RAM, 30-odd G of >Mylex RAID, 3.3-R) that constantly runs a load of from 1 to 3, even though >it's not doing anything (still sitting as a staging server). The initial >startup is also very slow; after about 40 of the servers start there's >about a 15 second pause, then another 40, pause, etc... > >This box is running about 170 virtual hosts (and a full class C >of addresses aliased to fxp0) under Apache 1.3.9, with each vhost running >as it's own user and starting 3 servers at startup, so there are a large >*number* of processes, but no swapping with about half a gig of RAM left >free. > >I have maxusers at 512, NMBCLUSTERS at 4096, and the following sysctl >adjustments: > >kern.maxproc: 8212 >kern.maxfiles: 100000 kern.maxfilesperproc: 16424 >kern.maxprocperuid: 8211 kern.ipc.somaxconn: 512 > >This is all gathered from various "tuning for a big webserver" posts from >the various FBSD lists. > >systat, vmstat, iostat all look normal, and I've not seen any curious >entries in the logs. > >So that's the info, my questions are "why the load", and "is that OK"? >Something seems wrong here, but I'm at a loss. > >Any ideas where to start looking? > >[followup #1] > > > What does top(1) report? > >last pid: 23684; load averages: 3.74, 1.96, 1.46 up 7+21:10:15 10:35:38 >449 processes: 1 running, 448 sleeping >CPU states: 0.0% user, 0.0% nice, 2.7% system, 0.0% interrupt, 97.3% idle >Mem: 62M Active, 355M Inact, 45M Wired, 8350K Buf, 418M Free >Swap: 784M Total, 784M Free > > PID USERNAME PRI NICE SIZE RES STATE TIME WCPU CPU COMMAND >23684 root 30 0 1976K 944K RUN 0:00 3.08% 0.29% top > 904 root 2 -12 1036K 720K select 0:31 0.00% 0.00% xntpd > 4163 root 2 0 1468K 1096K select 0:13 0.00% 0.00% >httpd-apache_1 > 3399 root 2 0 1468K 1096K select 0:13 0.00% 0.00% >httpd-apache_1 > >[followup #2] > > > that value for NMBCLUSTERS is going to be lower than what maxusers at > > 512sets it to, try 16384 or leave it up to maxusers. > >[followup #3] > > > Hum....that could certainly contribute to load. Have you checked vmstat > ^^^^ (he's referring to the number of processes) > > to see what the system calls are like (frequency that is). > >Nothing's blocked, and the other numbers look very similar to much smaller >boxes doing nothing: > >procs memory page disks faults cpu >r b w avm fre flt re pi po fr sr da0 fd0 pa0 in sy cs us sy id >0 0 0 106760426976 2 0 0 0 2 0 0 0 0 230 474 155 0 0 99 >0 0 0 106760426976 4 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 233 408 136 0 2 98 >0 0 0 106760426976 3 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 235 408 136 0 2 98 > >[followup #4] > > > what ???? > > you are asking why high load ??? > > don;t you see you have 500 processes on your box ?? > > it's normal to have 3 of load average if you got 500 processes! > >Here's a snippet from a shell/web server that is doing actual work. It >has less memory, a slower processor and a number of interactive users. >The load however rarely climbs above 1.0 unless a process goes runaway: > >last pid: 25042; load averages: 0.38, 0.35, 0.63 13:26:43 >301 processes: 1 running, 300 sleeping >CPU states: 0.4% user, 0.0% nice, 0.8% system, 0.8% interrupt, 98.1% idle >Mem: 119M Active, 44M Inact, 36M Wired, 34M Cache, 6027K Buf, 17M Free >Swap: 640M Total, 37M Used, 603M Free, 6% Inuse > > PID USERNAME PRI NICE SIZE RES STATE TIME WCPU CPU COMMAND >25040 root 28 0 844K 1120K RUN 0:00 1.89% 0.34% top >24823 freddy 2 0 4180K 2964K select 0:00 0.23% 0.23% pine4.21 >24919 byman 3 0 796K 1040K ttyin 0:00 0.04% 0.04% tcsh >24537 inch_hom 2 0 640K 872K sbwait 0:00 0.04% 0.04%httpd-1.3.3-us > >So I'd kind of assume I wouldn't see a radical difference between a >machine with 500 idle processes and one that's running 300 and is in >active use... > >So if anyone even has a similarly configured box, I'd love to hear from >you. I feel something is wrong here, but I can't find it... > >Thanks, > >Charles > > > >To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org >with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message Mail Sent: January 17, 2000 4:06 pm PST Item: R01XvSG --------------C212CAC3CBE4E039D58C540A-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Mon Jan 17 17: 9:31 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from blackbird.lonetree.com (blackbird.lonetree.com [207.141.55.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 77D8A15056 for ; Mon, 17 Jan 2000 17:09:24 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from wolfman@csocs.com) Received: from csocs.com [209.64.46.23] by blackbird.lonetree.com with ESMTP (SMTPD32-6.00) id AD27E140138; Mon, 17 Jan 2000 18:08:55 -0700 Message-ID: <3883BE8C.8ACBF340@csocs.com> Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2000 18:14:52 -0700 From: "J.C. Frazier" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (X11; I; FreeBSD 3.4-STABLE i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: st@i-plus.net, freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Frontpage Extensions (again?) References: <3883AC9A.ACD3CE0C@csocs.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Troy: I have submitted a port PR and you are welcome to try it. It is very secure and tested and has php3, mySQL support, the frontpage 2000 extensions via the patch, and mod_ssl. You can find it on the PR lists or at ftp://ftp.csocs.com/pub/FreeBSD/ports/apache13-php3-fp-modssl.tar.gz Hope this helps. Anyone on freebsd-isp is welcome to try it out or test it...it's proven to be very stable. FreeBSD-Ports is trying to decide now on the future of the Apache ports, you may not get another chance to get this Apache13+kitchen_sink. :) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Mon Jan 17 17:29:57 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mail2.bna.bellsouth.net (mail2.bna.bellsouth.net [205.152.150.14]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5D8D614BCD for ; Mon, 17 Jan 2000 17:29:55 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jim@siteplus.com) Received: from siteplus.com (host-209-215-9-33.cha.bellsouth.net [209.215.9.33]) by mail2.bna.bellsouth.net (3.3.5alt/0.75.2) with ESMTP id UAA29101; Mon, 17 Jan 2000 20:22:58 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <3883C1FF.60394586@siteplus.com> Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2000 20:29:35 -0500 From: Jim Weeks X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.51 [en] (X11; I; Linux 2.2.5-15 i486) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "J.C. Frazier" Cc: st@i-plus.net, freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Frontpage Extensions (again?) References: <3883AC9A.ACD3CE0C@csocs.com> <3883BE8C.8ACBF340@csocs.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I will vouch for this one. After spending several hours on various other schemes, J.C. sent me this URL. I grabbed the tarball and tried it out on one of my local machines. FIRST TIME, NO PROBLEMS! Since that time I have built it on other machines with the same result. Jim Weeks, Jim@siteplus.com "J.C. Frazier" wrote: > Troy: > > I have submitted a port PR and you are welcome to try it. It is very secure > and tested and has php3, mySQL support, the frontpage 2000 extensions via the > patch, and mod_ssl. You can find it on the PR lists or at > ftp://ftp.csocs.com/pub/FreeBSD/ports/apache13-php3-fp-modssl.tar.gz Hope > this helps. Anyone on freebsd-isp is welcome to try it out or test it...it's > proven to be very stable. FreeBSD-Ports is trying to decide now on the future > of the Apache ports, you may not get another chance to get this > Apache13+kitchen_sink. :) > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Mon Jan 17 18:16:26 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from intranova.net (blacklisted.intranova.net [209.3.31.70]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 280BB150B8 for ; Mon, 17 Jan 2000 18:16:23 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from oogali@intranova.net) Received: (qmail 34520 invoked from network); 17 Jan 2000 21:18:32 -0000 Received: from hydrant.intranova.net (user65162@209.201.95.10) by blacklisted.intranova.net with SMTP; 17 Jan 2000 21:18:32 -0000 Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2000 21:13:33 -0500 (EST) From: Omachonu Ogali To: Troy Settle Cc: FreeBSD ISP Subject: RE: Frontpage Extensions (again?) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Then why not start with apache13-fp as your base and then add on the php3/4 support? Omachonu Ogali Intranova Networking Group On Mon, 17 Jan 2000, Troy Settle wrote: > > Ugh.. > > Ok, so far, 2 responses. Thank you, I appreciate, but neither is quite what > I'm looking for (I don't think) > > The first one refers to a port that I've already tried disecting. The > second refers to a *very* insecure way of adding the extensions. > > What I'm trying to do, is avoid the MS/RTR patches copmletely. I know > there's no real way around using their code for /usr/local/frontpage/*, but > I'm willing to accept that part. > > What's driving me crazy, is that apache13-fp and apache13-php both build and > run beautifully, but but neither has the features of the other, and they're > both wanting to install to different places, and their patches are > incompatible. > > If I can't figure out a clean way to patch the apache13-php3 port, I'll have > to do this by hand, and I'm desperately trying to avoid that if possible. > Everything I need is in the ports, except apache+php+fp :( > > TIA, > > Troy > > > PS: if all else fails, I'll skip the FP stuff, and install samba and access > the files that way :) > > > ** -----Original Message----- > ** From: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG > ** [mailto:owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG]On Behalf Of Troy Settle > ** Sent: Monday, January 17, 2000 2:06 PM > ** To: FreeBSD ISP > ** Subject: Frontpage Extensions (again?) > ** > ** > ** > ** Hey all, > ** > ** Some time ago, someone posted a URL to an alternative patch for adding > ** Frontpage extensions into apache. For the life of me, I can't > ** seem to track > ** it down in the list archive. > ** > ** If anyone has a reference to this, please let me know ASAP. > ** > ** > ** TIA, > ** > ** Troy > ** > ** > ** > ** To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > ** with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message > ** > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Mon Jan 17 19:16:42 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from tetron02.tetronsoftware.com (ftp.tetronsoftware.com [208.236.46.106]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 48E5414DDD for ; Mon, 17 Jan 2000 19:16:39 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from zeus@tetronsoftware.com) Received: from tetron02.tetronsoftware.com (tetron02.tetronsoftware.com [208.236.46.106]) by tetron02.tetronsoftware.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id VAA14936; Mon, 17 Jan 2000 21:19:56 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from zeus@tetronsoftware.com) Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2000 21:19:56 -0600 (CST) From: Gene Harris To: "J.C. Frazier" Cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Frontpage Extensions (again?) In-Reply-To: <3883BE8C.8ACBF340@csocs.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I just downloaded and tried this out. Everything seemed to proceed normally. I did a make certifcate and then installed. The whole process worked very nicely. Thanks for supplying us with this port. *==============================================* *Gene Harris http://www.tetronsoftware.com* *FreeBSD Novice * *All ORBS.org SMTP connections are denied! * *==============================================* On Mon, 17 Jan 2000, J.C. Frazier wrote: > Troy: > > I have submitted a port PR and you are welcome to try it. It is very secure > and tested and has php3, mySQL support, the frontpage 2000 extensions via the > patch, and mod_ssl. You can find it on the PR lists or at > ftp://ftp.csocs.com/pub/FreeBSD/ports/apache13-php3-fp-modssl.tar.gz Hope > this helps. Anyone on freebsd-isp is welcome to try it out or test it...it's > proven to be very stable. FreeBSD-Ports is trying to decide now on the future > of the Apache ports, you may not get another chance to get this > Apache13+kitchen_sink. :) > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Mon Jan 17 19:36:39 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from web2106.mail.yahoo.com (web2106.mail.yahoo.com [128.11.68.250]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 2600E14F59 for ; Mon, 17 Jan 2000 19:36:38 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from xiyuan@yahoo.com) Received: (qmail 5784 invoked by uid 60001); 18 Jan 2000 03:36:37 -0000 Message-ID: <20000118033637.5783.qmail@web2106.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [202.101.31.187] by web2106.mail.yahoo.com; Mon, 17 Jan 2000 19:36:37 PST Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2000 19:36:37 -0800 (PST) From: xiyuan qian Subject: net speed To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi, how to express the net speed between the client and the server? with ping ??? __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? 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Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Mon Jan 17 20:17:32 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from pau-amma.whistle.com (pau-amma.whistle.com [207.76.205.64]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 95B1414FC7 for ; Mon, 17 Jan 2000 20:17:25 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from dhw@whistle.com) Received: (from dhw@localhost) by pau-amma.whistle.com (8.9.2/8.9.2) id UAA73885; Mon, 17 Jan 2000 20:17:24 -0800 (PST) Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2000 20:17:24 -0800 (PST) From: David Wolfskill Message-Id: <200001180417.UAA73885@pau-amma.whistle.com> To: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG, xiyuan@yahoo.com Subject: Re: net speed In-Reply-To: <20000118033637.5783.qmail@web2106.mail.yahoo.com> Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org >Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2000 19:36:37 -0800 (PST) >From: xiyuan qian >Hi, how to express the net speed between the client >and the server? with ping ??? First, I would contend that "speed" (as such) is not a very meaningful term with respect to networks. Indeed, your query relates to that lack of meaningfulness, as the text below should show. There are a couple of different (but related) ways to refer to how fast data gets from its source to its destination. The relevant terms are "latency" and "bandwidth". Absent a fair amount of context, determining which is meant can be challenging. Essentially, latency is a measure of the minimal amount of time that any quantum of information could spend in getting from the source to the destination. Typically, this will be measured with a small amount of data -- a single datagram (or packet, depending on the level you are measuring). Ping can be a useful tool for measuring this (at the datagram level). You can see the effect of changing the size of the datagram by specifying different sizes and noting the difference in the amount of time it takes, or latency. At the same time, this latency will vary, depending on network conditions, so it is likely that the best estimate of latency will be of a statistical nature. Bandwidth, on the other hand, is a measure of how much data can transit the network in a given amount of time. This, also, can be rather dependent on network conditions, as well as the load on the source and destination machines. Further, for useful (from the user's perspective) measures of bandwidth, higher-level protocols tend to be involved, such as FTP, and these have additional overhead. The commonly-quoted "speeds" of networks are measured in terms of bandwidth, rather than latency (i.e., a certain amount of data in a unit of time, vs. a certain amount of time for a unit of data). All that said, this is based on my observations, for the most part -- I haven't studied network theory; I'm not sure it existed as such back when I was in school... so please take all of this with a suitably-sized "grain of salt". Cheers, david -- David Wolfskill dhw@whistle.com UNIX System Administrator voice: (650) 577-7158 pager: (888) 347-0197 FAX: (650) 372-5915 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Mon Jan 17 21:43:22 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from atlas.usls.edu (atlas.usls.edu [202.47.133.46]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B79F414ECC for ; Mon, 17 Jan 2000 21:43:08 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from francis@usls.edu) Received: by atlas.usls.edu (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 243A09B11; Tue, 18 Jan 2000 13:41:57 +0800 (PHT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by atlas.usls.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 196C75D14 for ; Tue, 18 Jan 2000 13:41:57 +0800 (PHT) Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2000 13:41:57 +0800 (PHT) From: "Francis A. Vidal" To: FreeBSD ISP Subject: change password via web Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org hi folks, do you know of a package that let's users change their password via web? -- francis vidal university of st. la salle, bacolod city, philippines . . . . . . . PGP key available via e-mail / subject: get PGP key u s l s N E T tel nos. (+63.34).433.3526 / fax (+63.34).434.0415 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Tue Jan 18 1:32:19 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from expnet.net (mail.expnet.net [216.174.90.22]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8C1FF14C07 for ; Tue, 18 Jan 2000 01:32:17 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from briang@expnet.net) Received: from briangdesktop [216.174.90.9] by expnet.net (SMTPD32-5.08) id A647187D023C; Tue, 18 Jan 2000 01:45:43 -0800 Message-ID: <000901bf6198$df4927e0$095aaed8@expnet.net> Reply-To: "Brian Gallucci" From: "Brian Gallucci" To: Subject: New Firewall Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2000 01:46:19 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org We are looking at putting up a new firewall at one of our clients sites using FreeBSD 3-4. Is there any bugs we should know about with IPFW ? They will be doing some webhosting and email. Thanks -Brian To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Tue Jan 18 4:30:33 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from cliff.i-plus.net (cliff.i-plus.net [209.100.20.42]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5DC6B151E2 for ; Tue, 18 Jan 2000 04:30:30 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from st@i-plus.net) Received: from abyss (abyss.dashit.net [209.100.22.250]) by cliff.i-plus.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id HAA49527; Tue, 18 Jan 2000 07:29:34 -0500 (EST) From: "Troy Settle" To: "Francis A. Vidal" , "FreeBSD ISP" Subject: RE: change password via web Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2000 07:26:43 -0500 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) In-Reply-To: X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Importance: Normal Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Yeah, easy stuff... php: http://home.i-plus.net/st/passwd.php.txt perl: http://home.i-plus.net/st/passwd.pl.txt If you use the perl script, you'll have to create your own form. Have fun If you use the PHP script, you'll either have to enable ASP tags in php3.ini, or change the tags in the script. Both scripts will need to be edited for content, if not function. Someone cleaned these up and reposted them to the list a few weeks ago, you might try searching for them if you don't like my offerings. -Troy > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG > [mailto:owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG]On Behalf Of Francis A. Vidal > Sent: Tuesday, January 18, 2000 00:42 > To: FreeBSD ISP > Subject: change password via web > > > hi folks, > > do you know of a package that let's users change their password via web? > > -- > francis vidal university of st. la salle, bacolod city, philippines > . . . . . . . PGP key available via e-mail / subject: get PGP key > u s l s N E T tel nos. (+63.34).433.3526 / fax (+63.34).434.0415 > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Tue Jan 18 6:56:13 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from liberty.bulinfo.net (liberty.bulinfo.net [212.72.195.7]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id D088C14DA3 for ; Tue, 18 Jan 2000 06:56:01 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from krassi@bulinfo.net) Received: (qmail 50933 invoked from network); 18 Jan 2000 14:55:51 -0000 Received: from pythia.bulinfo.net (HELO bulinfo.net) (212.72.195.5) by liberty.bulinfo.net with SMTP; 18 Jan 2000 14:55:51 -0000 Message-ID: <38847F96.CD87EC62@bulinfo.net> Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2000 16:58:30 +0200 From: Krassimir Slavchev Organization: Bulinfo Ltd. X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (X11; I; FreeBSD 3.4-RELEASE i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org, freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Subject: MPEG2 DVB Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi folks, did anybody heard about MPEG2 DVB and is there any support in FreeBSD of HC60P board. -- Krassimir Slavchev Bulinfo Ltd. krassi@bulinfo.net (+359-2)963-3652 http://www.bulinfo.net (+359-2)963-3764 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Tue Jan 18 8:25:25 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from intranova.net (blacklisted.intranova.net [209.3.31.70]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 02C7A14EE9 for ; Tue, 18 Jan 2000 08:25:20 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from oogali@intranova.net) Received: (qmail 10008 invoked from network); 18 Jan 2000 11:27:31 -0000 Received: from hydrant.intranova.net (user6378@209.201.95.10) by blacklisted.intranova.net with SMTP; 18 Jan 2000 11:27:31 -0000 Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2000 11:22:27 -0500 (EST) From: Omachonu Ogali To: Brian Gallucci Cc: isp@freebsd.org, freebsd-ipfw@freebsd.org Subject: Re: New Firewall In-Reply-To: <000901bf6198$df4927e0$095aaed8@expnet.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org The following rules can help if you are going to be running SMTP, HTTP, POP3, and HTTPS, delete what you don't need. # -- Pass through for already established connections ipfw add allow tcp from any to any established # -- SMTP ipfw add allow tcp from any to x.x.x.x 25 # -- HTTP ipfw add allow tcp from any to x.x.x.x 80 # -- POP3 ipfw add allow tcp from any to x.x.x.x 110 # -- HTTPS ipfw add allow tcp from any to x.x.x.x 443 # -- Allow setup of outgoing connections ipfw add allow tcp from x.x.x.x to any setup # -- Deny setup of other incoming connections ipfw add deny tcp from any to any setup # -- Deny other incoming IP packets. ipfw add deny ip from any to any Omachonu Ogali Intranova Networking Group On Tue, 18 Jan 2000, Brian Gallucci wrote: > We are looking at putting up a new firewall at one of our clients sites > using FreeBSD 3-4. Is there any bugs we should know about with IPFW ? They > will be > doing some webhosting and email. > > Thanks > -Brian > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Tue Jan 18 8:34:51 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from proteus.eclipse.net.uk (proteus.eclipse.net.uk [195.188.32.118]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ECD3414C37; Tue, 18 Jan 2000 08:34:45 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from sh@eclipse.net.uk) Received: from eclipse.net.uk (elara.eclipse.net.uk [195.188.32.31]) by proteus.eclipse.net.uk (Postfix) with ESMTP id A74109BF8; Tue, 18 Jan 2000 16:34:39 +0000 (GMT) Message-ID: <38849638.1AF1138E@eclipse.net.uk> Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2000 16:35:04 +0000 From: Stuart Henderson Organization: Eclipse Networking Ltd X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (WinNT; U) X-Accept-Language: en-GB MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Omachonu Ogali Cc: Brian Gallucci , isp@freebsd.org, freebsd-ipfw@freebsd.org Subject: Re: New Firewall References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > The following rules can help if you are going to be running SMTP, HTTP, > POP3, and HTTPS, delete what you don't need. You also need to pass icmp fragmentation-needed messages if you don't want to risk breaking access to/from some sites. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Tue Jan 18 8:42:57 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from super-g.com (super-g.com [207.240.140.161]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2CF7714C01 for ; Tue, 18 Jan 2000 08:42:56 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from spork@super-g.com) Received: by super-g.com (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 24CD510E60; Tue, 18 Jan 2000 11:42:55 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by super-g.com (Postfix) with SMTP id 149D310E4C for ; Tue, 18 Jan 2000 11:42:55 -0500 (EST) Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2000 11:42:55 -0500 (EST) From: spork X-Sender: spork@super-g.inch.com To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: Shopping cart / Credit card processing Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi, Any recommendations on a good turnkey E-commerce/shopping-cart system that runs on FreeBSD? We've reached the point where we don't have time to hand-craft something, and the demand is growing rapidly. I basically want a simple user-configurable cart that lets anyone with a CC merchant number sell things through their site... Thanks, Charles To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Tue Jan 18 8:52:34 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from post.mail.areti.net (meteora.areti.com [193.118.189.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 738B114EBE for ; Tue, 18 Jan 2000 08:52:30 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from ndear@areti.net) Received: from acropolis (acropolis.noc.areti.net [193.118.189.102]) by post.mail.areti.net (8.9.3/8.9.3/Areti-2.0.0) with ESMTP id QAA31589 for ; Tue, 18 Jan 2000 16:52:28 GMT Message-Id: <200001181652.QAA31589@post.mail.areti.net> From: "Nicholas J. Dear" Organization: Areti Internet Ltd. To: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2000 16:52:27 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: Frontpage extensions on BSD Reply-To: ndear@areti.net X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v3.12b) Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi, We've just upgraded our frontpage extensions to 2000 (version 4.0), and upgraded Apache to 1.3.3, from 1.3.1 We're getting the following error when trying to install for all virtual servers. We've even tried a fresh installation, and it's still moaning. Enter server config filename: /usr/local/httpd/apache/conf/httpd.conf '193.118.189.253' server is not a valid virtual server. bit from out httpd.conf: ServerName www.3ways-design.co.uk ServerAdmin webmaster@areti.net DocumentRoot /usr/home/3ways-design/public_html ScriptAlias /cgi-bin/ /usr/home/3ways-design/cgi-bin/ Any ideas? :) TIA. N. -- Nicholas J. Dear Mail: ndear@areti.net Tel: +44 (0)20-8402-4041 Areti Internet Ltd., http://www.areti.co.uk/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Tue Jan 18 9:21:43 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from tetron02.tetronsoftware.com (ftp.tetronsoftware.com [208.236.46.106]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DC04114ECF for ; Tue, 18 Jan 2000 09:21:33 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from zeus@tetronsoftware.com) Received: from tetron02.tetronsoftware.com (tetron02.tetronsoftware.com [208.236.46.106]) by tetron02.tetronsoftware.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA18353; Tue, 18 Jan 2000 11:24:49 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from zeus@tetronsoftware.com) Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2000 11:24:49 -0600 (CST) From: Gene Harris To: "Nicholas J. Dear" Cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Frontpage extensions on BSD In-Reply-To: <200001181652.QAA31589@post.mail.areti.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org You need to check with http://www.freebsddiary.org. The site has a complete and workable set of instructions along with a tutorial for adding a new virtual host. I think the URL is: http://www.freebsddiary.org/freebsd/fpext2000.htm (or .html ?) HTH *==============================================* *Gene Harris http://www.tetronsoftware.com* *FreeBSD Novice * *All ORBS.org SMTP connections are denied! * *==============================================* On Tue, 18 Jan 2000, Nicholas J. Dear wrote: > Hi, > > We've just upgraded our frontpage extensions to 2000 (version 4.0), and > upgraded Apache to 1.3.3, from 1.3.1 We're getting the following error when > trying to install for all virtual servers. We've even tried a fresh installation, and > it's still moaning. > > Enter server config filename: /usr/local/httpd/apache/conf/httpd.conf > '193.118.189.253' server is not a valid virtual server. > > bit from out httpd.conf: > > > ServerName www.3ways-design.co.uk > ServerAdmin webmaster@areti.net > DocumentRoot /usr/home/3ways-design/public_html > ScriptAlias /cgi-bin/ /usr/home/3ways-design/cgi-bin/ > > > Any ideas? :) > TIA. > N. > -- > Nicholas J. Dear > Mail: ndear@areti.net Tel: +44 (0)20-8402-4041 > Areti Internet Ltd., http://www.areti.co.uk/ > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Tue Jan 18 9:27:12 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from bsdie.rwsystems.net (bsdie.rwsystems.net [209.197.223.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7E548150CF; Tue, 18 Jan 2000 09:27:06 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jwyatt@rwsystems.net) Received: from bsdie.rwsystems.net([209.197.223.2]) (1344 bytes) by bsdie.rwsystems.net via sendmail with P:esmtp/R:bind_hosts/T:inet_zone_bind_smtp (sender: ) id for ; Tue, 18 Jan 2000 11:22:32 -0600 (CST) (Smail-3.2.0.106 1999-Mar-31 #1 built 1999-Aug-7) Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2000 11:22:31 -0600 (CST) From: James Wyatt To: Omachonu Ogali Cc: Brian Gallucci , isp@freebsd.org, freebsd-ipfw@freebsd.org Subject: Re: New Firewall In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Tue, 18 Jan 2000, Omachonu Ogali wrote: > The following rules can help if you are going to be running SMTP, HTTP, > POP3, and HTTPS, delete what you don't need. [ ... ] > # -- Deny setup of other incoming connections > ipfw add deny tcp from any to any setup > > # -- Deny other incoming IP packets. > ipfw add deny ip from any to any These rules are duplicate, so you can drop the first one. The last rule is commonly the default in /etc/rc.firewall as well. That aside, I might keep the first one and change it to '... deny log ...", thus logging connection attempts. On the other hand, that's what log_in_vain="YES" in /etc/rc.conf is all about... - Jy@ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Tue Jan 18 9:28: 5 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from colossus.invictanet.co.uk (colossus.invictanet.co.uk [62.232.18.118]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6B76E14CB1 for ; Tue, 18 Jan 2000 09:28:01 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from martynr@invictanet.co.uk) Received: from harry ([62.6.132.158]) by colossus.invictanet.co.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id RAA10302 for ; Tue, 18 Jan 2000 17:28:11 GMT Reply-To: From: "Martyn Routley" To: "Freebsd-ISP" Subject: RE: Shopping cart / Credit card processing Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2000 17:27:46 -0000 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 In-Reply-To: Importance: Normal Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org There was an e-commerce thread last September. This one received several suggestions. http://www.minivend.com/ ----------------------------------------------------- InvictaNet - The Internet in Plain English, Guaranteed http://www.invictanet.co.uk mailto:info@invictanet.co.uk phone: 0870 7402252 fax: +44 (0)1233 334001 ------------------------------------------------------ > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG > [mailto:owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG]On Behalf Of spork > Sent: Tuesday, January 18, 2000 4:43 PM > To: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG > Subject: Shopping cart / Credit card processing > > > Hi, > > Any recommendations on a good turnkey E-commerce/shopping-cart system that > runs on FreeBSD? We've reached the point where we don't have time to > hand-craft something, and the demand is growing rapidly. I basically want > a simple user-configurable cart that lets anyone with a CC merchant number > sell things through their site... > > Thanks, > > Charles > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Tue Jan 18 9:35:51 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from gndrsh.dnsmgr.net (GndRsh.dnsmgr.net [198.145.92.4]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1C1B414F85; Tue, 18 Jan 2000 09:35:45 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from freebsd@gndrsh.dnsmgr.net) Received: (from freebsd@localhost) by gndrsh.dnsmgr.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) id JAA48588; Tue, 18 Jan 2000 09:35:35 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from freebsd) From: "Rodney W. Grimes" Message-Id: <200001181735.JAA48588@gndrsh.dnsmgr.net> Subject: Re: New Firewall In-Reply-To: from Omachonu Ogali at "Jan 18, 2000 11:22:27 am" To: oogali@intranova.net (Omachonu Ogali) Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2000 09:35:34 -0800 (PST) Cc: briang@expnet.net (Brian Gallucci), isp@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-ipfw@FreeBSD.ORG X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL54 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > The following rules can help if you are going to be running SMTP, HTTP, > POP3, and HTTPS, delete what you don't need. Allowing anything other than ``setup'' packets on these rules is a mistake... > > # -- Pass through for already established connections > ipfw add allow tcp from any to any established > > # -- SMTP > ipfw add allow tcp from any to x.x.x.x 25 ^setup > > # -- HTTP > ipfw add allow tcp from any to x.x.x.x 80 ^setup > > # -- POP3 > ipfw add allow tcp from any to x.x.x.x 110 ^setup > > # -- HTTPS > ipfw add allow tcp from any to x.x.x.x 443 ^setup > > # -- Allow setup of outgoing connections > ipfw add allow tcp from x.x.x.x to any setup > > # -- Deny setup of other incoming connections > ipfw add deny tcp from any to any setup > > # -- Deny other incoming IP packets. > ipfw add deny ip from any to any This should be the default rule and is not needed... > > Omachonu Ogali > Intranova Networking Group > > On Tue, 18 Jan 2000, Brian Gallucci wrote: > > > We are looking at putting up a new firewall at one of our clients sites > > using FreeBSD 3-4. Is there any bugs we should know about with IPFW ? They > > will be > > doing some webhosting and email. > > > > Thanks > > -Brian > > > > > > > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-ipfw" in the body of the message > -- Rod Grimes - KD7CAX @ CN85sl - (RWG25) rgrimes@gndrsh.dnsmgr.net To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Tue Jan 18 9:37:56 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mail.alpha1.net (mail.alpha1.net [216.88.112.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 00B2314C07; Tue, 18 Jan 2000 09:37:47 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from marius@alpha1.net) Received: from marius.org (marius@marius.org [216.88.115.170]) by mail.alpha1.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA01393; Tue, 18 Jan 2000 10:28:45 -0600 Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2000 10:28:44 -0600 (CST) From: Marius Strom X-Sender: marius@marius.org To: Omachonu Ogali Cc: Brian Gallucci , isp@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-ipfw@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: New Firewall In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Incidentally, you may want to allow (udp|tcp)/53 for DNS services inbound, if that's necessary. ( It's fumbled many a new FW setup ) -- Marius Strom Professional Geek/Unix System Administrator Alpha1 Internet http://www.marius.org/marius.pgp 0x5645C228 In theory, there is no difference between theory and practice... ...In practice, there is a big difference. On Tue, 18 Jan 2000, Omachonu Ogali wrote: > The following rules can help if you are going to be running SMTP, HTTP, > POP3, and HTTPS, delete what you don't need. > > # -- Pass through for already established connections > ipfw add allow tcp from any to any established > > # -- SMTP > ipfw add allow tcp from any to x.x.x.x 25 > > # -- HTTP > ipfw add allow tcp from any to x.x.x.x 80 > > # -- POP3 > ipfw add allow tcp from any to x.x.x.x 110 > > # -- HTTPS > ipfw add allow tcp from any to x.x.x.x 443 > > # -- Allow setup of outgoing connections > ipfw add allow tcp from x.x.x.x to any setup > > # -- Deny setup of other incoming connections > ipfw add deny tcp from any to any setup > > # -- Deny other incoming IP packets. > ipfw add deny ip from any to any > > Omachonu Ogali > Intranova Networking Group > > On Tue, 18 Jan 2000, Brian Gallucci wrote: > > > We are looking at putting up a new firewall at one of our clients sites > > using FreeBSD 3-4. Is there any bugs we should know about with IPFW ? They > > will be > > doing some webhosting and email. > > > > Thanks > > -Brian > > > > > > > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Tue Jan 18 9:40:48 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from gndrsh.dnsmgr.net (GndRsh.dnsmgr.net [198.145.92.4]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7DF9614F55; Tue, 18 Jan 2000 09:40:41 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from freebsd@gndrsh.dnsmgr.net) Received: (from freebsd@localhost) by gndrsh.dnsmgr.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) id JAA48605; Tue, 18 Jan 2000 09:40:33 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from freebsd) From: "Rodney W. Grimes" Message-Id: <200001181740.JAA48605@gndrsh.dnsmgr.net> Subject: Re: New Firewall In-Reply-To: from James Wyatt at "Jan 18, 2000 11:22:31 am" To: jwyatt@rwsystems.net (James Wyatt) Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2000 09:40:33 -0800 (PST) Cc: oogali@intranova.net (Omachonu Ogali), briang@expnet.net (Brian Gallucci), isp@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-ipfw@FreeBSD.ORG X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL54 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > On Tue, 18 Jan 2000, Omachonu Ogali wrote: > > The following rules can help if you are going to be running SMTP, HTTP, > > POP3, and HTTPS, delete what you don't need. > [ ... ] > > # -- Deny setup of other incoming connections > > ipfw add deny tcp from any to any setup > > > > # -- Deny other incoming IP packets. > > ipfw add deny ip from any to any > > These rules are duplicate, so you can drop the first one. The last rule is > commonly the default in /etc/rc.firewall as well. That aside, I might keep > the first one and change it to '... deny log ...", thus logging connection > attempts. On the other hand, that's what log_in_vain="YES" in /etc/rc.conf > is all about... - Jy@ These rules are not equivelent, ip != tcp, and setup != null. The first rule is _VERY_ important. The second can be eliminated, see other email from me on missing ``setup'' on all the other rules... -- Rod Grimes - KD7CAX @ CN85sl - (RWG25) rgrimes@gndrsh.dnsmgr.net To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Tue Jan 18 9:43: 2 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from gndrsh.dnsmgr.net (GndRsh.dnsmgr.net [198.145.92.4]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C82D215330; Tue, 18 Jan 2000 09:42:57 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from freebsd@gndrsh.dnsmgr.net) Received: (from freebsd@localhost) by gndrsh.dnsmgr.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) id JAA48615; Tue, 18 Jan 2000 09:42:41 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from freebsd) From: "Rodney W. Grimes" Message-Id: <200001181742.JAA48615@gndrsh.dnsmgr.net> Subject: Re: New Firewall In-Reply-To: from Marius Strom at "Jan 18, 2000 10:28:44 am" To: marius@alpha1.net (Marius Strom) Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2000 09:42:41 -0800 (PST) Cc: oogali@intranova.net (Omachonu Ogali), briang@expnet.net (Brian Gallucci), isp@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-ipfw@FreeBSD.ORG X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL54 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > Incidentally, you may want to allow (udp|tcp)/53 for DNS services inbound, > if that's necessary. ( It's fumbled many a new FW setup ) And is often done quite wrong. udp|tcp/53 is often used as a way around a firewall if the rules are not written correctly. See archive of this and other FreeBSD mailling lists for lots of discussion about how to and how not to do this correctly. ...[No need to quote the whole thing yet again....] -- Rod Grimes - KD7CAX @ CN85sl - (RWG25) rgrimes@gndrsh.dnsmgr.net To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Tue Jan 18 9:47:10 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from bsdie.rwsystems.net (bsdie.rwsystems.net [209.197.223.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 58D7315097; Tue, 18 Jan 2000 09:47:06 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jwyatt@rwsystems.net) Received: from bsdie.rwsystems.net([209.197.223.2]) (1439 bytes) by bsdie.rwsystems.net via sendmail with P:esmtp/R:bind_hosts/T:inet_zone_bind_smtp (sender: ) id for ; Tue, 18 Jan 2000 11:44:19 -0600 (CST) (Smail-3.2.0.106 1999-Mar-31 #1 built 1999-Aug-7) Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2000 11:44:19 -0600 (CST) From: James Wyatt To: "Rodney W. Grimes" Cc: Omachonu Ogali , Brian Gallucci , isp@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-ipfw@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: New Firewall In-Reply-To: <200001181735.JAA48588@gndrsh.dnsmgr.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Oops, good call! Make sure you add the 'add pass tcp from any to any wstablished' rule so you can get past the setup. Hey, aren't we just building the /etc/rc.firewall file again? (^_^) ipfw rules! - Jy@ On Tue, 18 Jan 2000, Rodney W. Grimes wrote: > > The following rules can help if you are going to be running SMTP, HTTP, > > POP3, and HTTPS, delete what you don't need. > > Allowing anything other than ``setup'' packets on these rules is a mistake... > > > # -- Pass through for already established connections > > ipfw add allow tcp from any to any established > > > > # -- SMTP > > ipfw add allow tcp from any to x.x.x.x 25 > ^setup > > [ ... ] To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Tue Jan 18 10: 2: 0 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from gndrsh.dnsmgr.net (GndRsh.dnsmgr.net [198.145.92.4]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 927B614FD9; Tue, 18 Jan 2000 10:01:51 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from freebsd@gndrsh.dnsmgr.net) Received: (from freebsd@localhost) by gndrsh.dnsmgr.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) id KAA48678; Tue, 18 Jan 2000 10:01:42 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from freebsd) From: "Rodney W. Grimes" Message-Id: <200001181801.KAA48678@gndrsh.dnsmgr.net> Subject: Re: New Firewall In-Reply-To: from James Wyatt at "Jan 18, 2000 11:44:19 am" To: jwyatt@rwsystems.net (James Wyatt) Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2000 10:01:42 -0800 (PST) Cc: oogali@intranova.net (Omachonu Ogali), briang@expnet.net (Brian Gallucci), isp@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-ipfw@FreeBSD.ORG X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL54 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > Oops, good call! Make sure you add the 'add pass tcp from any to any > wstablished' rule so you can get past the setup. Hey, aren't we just > building the /etc/rc.firewall file again? (^_^) ipfw rules! - Jy@ The established rule is already there, stop speed reading.. ipfw is not a place to do things fast and hasty, but slow and careful. > > On Tue, 18 Jan 2000, Rodney W. Grimes wrote: > > > The following rules can help if you are going to be running SMTP, HTTP, > > > POP3, and HTTPS, delete what you don't need. > > > > Allowing anything other than ``setup'' packets on these rules is a mistake... > > > > > # -- Pass through for already established connections > > > ipfw add allow tcp from any to any established ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ > > > > > > # -- SMTP > > > ipfw add allow tcp from any to x.x.x.x 25 > > ^setup > > > > [ ... ] > > -- Rod Grimes - KD7CAX @ CN85sl - (RWG25) rgrimes@gndrsh.dnsmgr.net To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Tue Jan 18 10:49:24 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mimer.webgiro.com (mimer.webgiro.com [212.209.29.5]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3E6C114E25 for ; Tue, 18 Jan 2000 10:49:19 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from abial@webgiro.com) Received: by mimer.webgiro.com (Postfix, from userid 66) id 79F082DC0B; Tue, 18 Jan 2000 19:49:06 +0100 (CET) Received: by mx.webgiro.com (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 9FD137811; Tue, 18 Jan 2000 19:47:44 +0100 (CET) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx.webgiro.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9489910E10; Tue, 18 Jan 2000 19:47:44 +0100 (CET) Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2000 19:47:44 +0100 (CET) From: Andrzej Bialecki To: Luigi Rizzo Cc: Troy Settle , freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Bandwidth limiting on Switch. In-Reply-To: <200001171352.OAA53761@info.iet.unipi.it> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Mon, 17 Jan 2000, Luigi Rizzo wrote: > [Charset iso-8859-1 unsupported, filtering to ASCII...] > > > > Ok, ipfw show gives me numbers... are those packets or bytes? The man page > > doesn't say. > > both... > > > For bandwidth monitoring, I was thinking something more along the lines of > > being able to access a byte counter via SNMP, ala MRTG. > > no snmp support yet, sorry (i have no idea, but maybe snmp daemon can > be modified to fetch counters through the ipfw ioctl etc ?) The /usr/ports/net/ucd-snmp can be easily extended to report the output of ipfw show, by using simple shell script. Take a look at examples in the config file included in distribution (I think the port fails to install that file, though...) Andrzej Bialecki // WebGiro AB, Sweden (http://www.webgiro.com) // ------------------------------------------------------------------- // ------ FreeBSD: The Power to Serve. http://www.freebsd.org -------- // --- Small & Embedded FreeBSD: http://www.freebsd.org/~picobsd/ ---- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Tue Jan 18 11:37:22 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from proxy.pomonet.bg (proxy.pomonet.bg [212.56.4.83]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 1D5DC15090 for ; Tue, 18 Jan 2000 11:37:06 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gogo@mbox.pomonet.bg) Received: (qmail 64339 invoked from network); 18 Jan 2000 19:28:38 -0000 Received: from proxy.pomonet.bg (HELO mbox.pomonet.bg) (212.56.4.83) by proxy.pomonet.bg with SMTP; 18 Jan 2000 19:28:38 -0000 Message-ID: <3884BEE6.14366B76@mbox.pomonet.bg> Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2000 21:28:38 +0200 From: Misli s glavata si X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (X11; I; FreeBSD 3.4-RELEASE i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: pppd problem Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Could anyone help me with pppd trouble? I want to dial-in to my FreeBSD-3.3-RELEASE box, and setup a simple login script like this: #/bin/sh /usr/sbin/pppd lock -detach $SRVIP:$USRIP proxyarp But sometimes right after login it disconnects without any reason, leaving these records in /var/log/messages: pppd[PID]: pppd 2.3.5 started by LOGIN, uid UID pppd[PID]: tcsetattr: Input/output error Situation become correct again only after reboot. :( I've search mailing lists archives, but found only questions, not solutions... Please, help me! To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Tue Jan 18 12:53:30 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from awfulhak.org (dynamic-110.max4-du-ws.dialnetwork.pavilion.co.uk [212.74.9.238]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 10C2E14ECD for ; Tue, 18 Jan 2000 12:53:12 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from brian@Awfulhak.org) Received: from hak.lan.Awfulhak.org (root@hak.lan.Awfulhak.org [172.16.0.12]) by awfulhak.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id UAA01140; Tue, 18 Jan 2000 20:52:53 GMT (envelope-from brian@lan.awfulhak.org) Received: from hak.lan.Awfulhak.org (brian@localhost.lan.Awfulhak.org [127.0.0.1]) by hak.lan.Awfulhak.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id UAA58706; Tue, 18 Jan 2000 20:52:44 GMT (envelope-from brian@hak.lan.Awfulhak.org) Message-Id: <200001182052.UAA58706@hak.lan.Awfulhak.org> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.1.0 09/18/1999 To: Misli s glavata si Cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG, brian@hak.lan.Awfulhak.org Subject: Re: pppd problem In-Reply-To: Message from Misli s glavata si of "Tue, 18 Jan 2000 21:28:38 +0200." <3884BEE6.14366B76@mbox.pomonet.bg> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2000 20:52:44 +0000 From: Brian Somers Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > Could anyone help me with pppd trouble? > I want to dial-in to my FreeBSD-3.3-RELEASE box, and setup a simple > login script like this: > > #/bin/sh > /usr/sbin/pppd lock -detach $SRVIP:$USRIP proxyarp > > But sometimes right after login it disconnects without any reason, > leaving these records in /var/log/messages: > > pppd[PID]: pppd 2.3.5 started by LOGIN, uid UID > pppd[PID]: tcsetattr: Input/output error > > Situation become correct again only after reboot. :( > > I've search mailing lists archives, but found only questions, not > solutions... > Please, help me! You could try user-ppp :*] -- Brian Don't _EVER_ lose your sense of humour ! To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Tue Jan 18 18:12:42 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from atlas.usls.edu (atlas.usls.edu [202.47.133.46]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B00DB151E2 for ; Tue, 18 Jan 2000 18:12:38 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from francis@usls.edu) Received: by atlas.usls.edu (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 58A529B17; Wed, 19 Jan 2000 08:42:44 +0800 (PHT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by atlas.usls.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4D4205D14; Wed, 19 Jan 2000 08:42:44 +0800 (PHT) Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2000 08:42:44 +0800 (PHT) From: "Francis A. Vidal" To: Troy Settle Cc: FreeBSD ISP Subject: RE: change password via web In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org ---- Quoting Troy Settle's message, sent 01/18/00 7:26am ---- > Yeah, easy stuff... > > php: http://home.i-plus.net/st/passwd.php.txt > perl: http://home.i-plus.net/st/passwd.pl.txt i downloaded the PHP script and it worked! thanks! all i need to do now is to add this to the TWIG option page. > If you use the perl script, you'll have to create your own form. > Have fun > > If you use the PHP script, you'll either have to enable ASP tags in > php3.ini, or change the tags in the script. i already have PHP3 support in Apache 1.3.9 =) > Both scripts will need to be edited for content, if not function. > > Someone cleaned these up and reposted them to the list a few weeks > ago, you might try searching for them if you don't like my offerings. -- francis vidal university of st. la salle, bacolod city, philippines . . . . . . . PGP key available via e-mail / subject: get PGP key u s l s N E T tel nos. (+63.34).433.3526 / fax (+63.34).434.0415 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Tue Jan 18 21:20:42 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from redbox.venux.net (redbox.venux.net [216.47.238.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4B45D152C5 for ; Tue, 18 Jan 2000 21:20:39 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mitch@venux.net) Received: from doot2 (gr-ppp211.triton.net [209.172.1.211]) by redbox.venux.net (Postfix) with SMTP id B87C42E20B; Wed, 19 Jan 2000 00:12:45 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <008801bf623d$22cf47c0$0300000a@doot.org> From: "Mitch Vincent" To: "Francis A. Vidal" , "Troy Settle" Cc: "FreeBSD ISP" References: Subject: Re: change password via web Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2000 00:22:09 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I need corrected here, the newpass command isn't supported by RFC compliant POP3 servers, correct? If that's the case and you're running an RFC compliant pop3 server, you're not going to be able to use either of these scripts. I just noticed it doesn't work with GNU-POP3D (AKA IDS-POP3D) and haven't done one bit of investigating, so my comments above could be totally and completely false :-) ----- Original Message ----- From: Francis A. Vidal To: Troy Settle Cc: FreeBSD ISP Sent: Tuesday, January 18, 2000 7:42 PM Subject: RE: change password via web > ---- Quoting Troy Settle's message, sent 01/18/00 7:26am ---- > > > Yeah, easy stuff... > > > > php: http://home.i-plus.net/st/passwd.php.txt > > perl: http://home.i-plus.net/st/passwd.pl.txt > > i downloaded the PHP script and it worked! thanks! all i need to do now is > to add this to the TWIG option page. > > > If you use the perl script, you'll have to create your own form. > > Have fun > > > > If you use the PHP script, you'll either have to enable ASP tags in > > php3.ini, or change the tags in the script. > > i already have PHP3 support in Apache 1.3.9 =) > > > Both scripts will need to be edited for content, if not function. > > > > Someone cleaned these up and reposted them to the list a few weeks > > ago, you might try searching for them if you don't like my offerings. > > -- > francis vidal university of st. la salle, bacolod city, philippines > . . . . . . . PGP key available via e-mail / subject: get PGP key > u s l s N E T tel nos. (+63.34).433.3526 / fax (+63.34).434.0415 > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Tue Jan 18 21:44:27 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from bekool.com (ns2.netquick.net [216.48.34.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 39FC414EFA for ; Tue, 18 Jan 2000 21:44:22 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from trouble@netquick.net) Received: from angelsguardian.netquick.net ([199.72.47.239] helo=netquick.net) by bekool.com with esmtp (Exim 3.03 #1) id 12AoPO-000E9T-00; Wed, 19 Jan 2000 01:15:58 -0500 Message-ID: <3885F6A4.2A72B89E@netquick.net> Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2000 12:38:44 -0500 From: TrouBle Reply-To: trouble@netquick.net Organization: Hacked Furbies X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (X11; I; FreeBSD 4.0-CURRENT i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Mitch Vincent Cc: "Francis A. Vidal" , Troy Settle , FreeBSD ISP Subject: Re: change password via web References: <008801bf623d$22cf47c0$0300000a@doot.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org you simply need to install poppassd out of the ports tree, /usr/ports/mail/poppassd and whallah edit and restart inetd, install the script, and it works Mitch Vincent wrote: > > I need corrected here, the newpass command isn't supported by RFC compliant > POP3 servers, correct? > > If that's the case and you're running an RFC compliant pop3 server, you're > not going to be able to use either of these scripts. > > I just noticed it doesn't work with GNU-POP3D (AKA IDS-POP3D) and haven't > done one bit of investigating, so my comments above could be totally and > completely false :-) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Tue Jan 18 22:20:11 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from atlas.usls.edu (atlas.usls.edu [202.47.133.46]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 51A7E15016 for ; Tue, 18 Jan 2000 22:19:46 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from francis@usls.edu) Received: by atlas.usls.edu (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 431669B0B; Wed, 19 Jan 2000 13:49:19 +0800 (PHT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by atlas.usls.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 37BC05D14; Wed, 19 Jan 2000 13:49:19 +0800 (PHT) Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2000 13:49:19 +0800 (PHT) From: "Francis A. Vidal" To: Mitch Vincent Cc: FreeBSD ISP Subject: Re: change password via web In-Reply-To: <008801bf623d$22cf47c0$0300000a@doot.org> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org ---- Quoting Mitch Vincent's message, sent 01/19/00 12:22am ---- > I need corrected here, the newpass command isn't supported by RFC > compliant POP3 servers, correct? you need POPPASSD for the script to work. > If that's the case and you're running an RFC compliant pop3 server, > you're not going to be able to use either of these scripts. > > I just noticed it doesn't work with GNU-POP3D (AKA IDS-POP3D) and > haven't done one bit of investigating, so my comments above could be > totally and completely false :-) -- francis vidal university of st. la salle, bacolod city, philippines . . . . . . . PGP key available via e-mail / subject: get PGP key u s l s N E T tel nos. (+63.34).433.3526 / fax (+63.34).434.0415 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Tue Jan 18 22:53:40 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from tardis.patho.gen.nz (tardis.patho.gen.nz [203.97.2.226]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B086815116 for ; Tue, 18 Jan 2000 22:53:31 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jabley@tardis.patho.gen.nz) Received: (from jabley@localhost) by tardis.patho.gen.nz (8.9.3/8.9.3) id TAA17638; Wed, 19 Jan 2000 19:53:16 +1300 (NZDT) Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2000 19:53:16 +1300 From: Joe Abley To: David Wolfskill Cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG, xiyuan@yahoo.com Subject: Re: net speed Message-ID: <20000119195314.A4167@patho.gen.nz> References: <20000118033637.5783.qmail@web2106.mail.yahoo.com> <200001180417.UAA73885@pau-amma.whistle.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0i In-Reply-To: <200001180417.UAA73885@pau-amma.whistle.com>; from dhw@whistle.com on Mon, Jan 17, 2000 at 08:17:24PM -0800 X-Files: the Truth is Out There Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Mon, Jan 17, 2000 at 08:17:24PM -0800, David Wolfskill wrote: > First, I would contend that "speed" (as such) is not a very meaningful > term with respect to networks. Indeed, your query relates to that lack > of meaningfulness, as the text below should show. > > There are a couple of different (but related) ways to refer to how fast > data gets from its source to its destination. The relevant terms are > "latency" and "bandwidth". Absent a fair amount of context, determining > which is meant can be challenging. And "jitter" and "loss". To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Wed Jan 19 3:20:53 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from ns.nexos.com.br (ns.nexos.com.br [200.223.94.67]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 10DE915280 for ; Wed, 19 Jan 2000 03:20:46 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from josue@nexos.com.br) Received: from genipabu.nexos.com.br (ubu.nexos.com.br [200.223.94.75]) by ns.nexos.com.br (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA02850 for ; Wed, 19 Jan 2000 09:20:33 -0200 (BDB) (envelope-from josue@nexos.com.br) Received: from localhost (josue@localhost) by genipabu.nexos.com.br (8.9.3/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA38046 for ; Wed, 19 Jan 2000 09:21:31 -0200 (BDB) (envelope-from josue@nexos.com.br) X-Authentication-Warning: genipabu.nexos.com.br: josue owned process doing -bs Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2000 09:21:30 -0200 (BDB) From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Josu=E9_Jos=E9_Souza_Jr=2E?= To: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: SMTP/SSL Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: QUOTED-PRINTABLE Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hello, I'm trying to configure Netscape Messenger to use SMTP with SSL (or TLS) when sending messages. I have stunnel configured to wrap sendmail but when I set Messenger to always use SSL and try to send a message it returns an error saying that it's unable no connect to SMTP server. So I went to Outlook Express to see what I could get and then configured it to use SSL to send messages. In this configuration option of Outlook it shows the port to use, in this case, 465 (smtps where stunnel is configured in inetd). Well, using Outlook it works fine. Then I start watching packets to see what Messenger was trying to do and everytime I tried to send a mail with SSL I saw packets going to port 25 instead of 465! My question is if there is a way to configure sendmail to support SSL or if stunnel can detect clients intention to use or not SSL and then act just passing the message foward to sendmail (client not using SSL) or do it's regular job adding SSL before passing it to sendmail. If none of these two options are available, does anyone managed to get Messenger working with SMTP+SSL? Thanks in advance, ------------------------------------------ Josu=E9 Jos=E9 Souza Jr. - Opera=E7=F5es e Suporte =20 josue@nexos.com.br Nexos Servi=E7os de Redes Ltda. http://www.nexos.com.br Salvador - Bahia - Brasil ------------------------------------------ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Wed Jan 19 3:48:32 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from ns1.sunesi.net (ns1.sunesi.net [196.15.192.194]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7EB15151F5 for ; Wed, 19 Jan 2000 03:48:29 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from nbm@sunesi.net) Received: from nbm by ns1.sunesi.net with local (Exim 3.03 #1) id 12Atal-000DxA-00; Wed, 19 Jan 2000 13:48:03 +0200 Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2000 13:48:03 +0200 From: Neil Blakey-Milner To: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Josu=E9_Jos=E9_Souza_Jr=2E?= Cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: SMTP/SSL Message-ID: <20000119134803.A53579@mithrandr.moria.org> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0pre2i In-Reply-To: Organization: Rhodes University Computer Users' Society X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 3.3-RELEASE i386 X-URL: http://rucus.ru.ac.za/~nbm/ Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Wed 2000-01-19 (09:21), Josué José Souza Jr. wrote: > Then I start watching packets to see what Messenger was trying to do and > everytime I tried to send a mail with SSL I saw packets going to port 25 > instead of 465! Messenger uses RFC2487 "STARTTLS" for SSL over SMTP. It basically means that a supporting SMTP server sends a "250-STARTTLS", and the supporting SMTP client sends a "STARTTLS", and then all further traffic is negotiated securely. > My question is if there is a way to configure sendmail to support SSL or > if stunnel can detect clients intention to use or not SSL and then act > just passing the message foward to sendmail (client not using SSL) or do > it's regular job adding SSL before passing it to sendmail. Look at stunnel's "-n smtp" or sendmail-tls (find it on freshmeat), and you might have more luck than I've had. Neil -- Neil Blakey-Milner nbm@rucus.ru.ac.za To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Wed Jan 19 4:20:21 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from fgwmail5.fujitsu.co.jp (fgwmail5.fujitsu.co.jp [192.51.44.35]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C460A1527C for ; Wed, 19 Jan 2000 04:20:13 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from shin@nd.net.fujitsu.co.jp) Received: from m3.gw.fujitsu.co.jp by fgwmail5.fujitsu.co.jp (8.9.3/3.7W-MX9912-Fujitsu Gateway) id VAA08531 for ; Wed, 19 Jan 2000 21:20:08 +0900 (JST) (envelope-from shin@nd.net.fujitsu.co.jp) Received: from chisato.nd.net.fujitsu.co.jp by m3.gw.fujitsu.co.jp (8.9.3/3.7W-9912-Fujitsu Domain Master) id VAA04395; Wed, 19 Jan 2000 21:20:08 +0900 (JST) Received: from localhost ([10.36.204.250]) by chisato.nd.net.fujitsu.co.jp (8.8.5+2.7Wbeta5/3.3W8chisato-970826) with ESMTP id VAA09031 for ; Wed, 19 Jan 2000 21:20:07 +0900 (JST) To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: filtering of IPv6 over IPv4? X-Mailer: Mew version 1.94 on Emacs 20.4 / Mule 4.0 (HANANOEN) X-Prom-Mew: Prom-Mew 1.93.4 (procmail reader for Mew) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <20000119212045D.shin@nd.net.fujitsu.co.jp> Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2000 21:20:45 +0900 From: Yoshinobu Inoue X-Dispatcher: imput version 990905(IM130) Lines: 36 Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hello, I am Yoshinobu Inoue, a committer of freebsd project. And I am a member of Japanese KAME project which is implementing IPv6 and IPsec functionalities over BSD derived platforms. I am not sure if the issue now I am going to raise is appropriate for this list. If I am wrong, sorry for it, and if there are other better places, I'll appreciate if anyone let me know it. Now I am putting IPv6 and IPsec functionalities into freebsd-current. Already many of merging have done, and several functionalities are available. And several people are beginning to try to use it. But some of them have a problem using IPv6 via their ISPs. When someone begins to use IPv6, IPv6 over IPv4 tunneling is essential for the 1st stage. (e.g. protocol number 41 in IPv4) Because many ISPs are not yet providing native IPv6 service. But I am receiving several reports that some people failed to establish IPv6 over IPv4 connection via their ISP, and after several checking, it is found out that their ISP seems to be filtering those kind of packets. It is a shame to discourage people who are beginning to use IPv6, so I really wish for many ISPs not to filter IPv6 over IPv4 packets. Some of their customers are beginning to wish to use those kind of packets(again, ip protocol 41), and I believe the number will increase. Yoshinobu Inoue To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Wed Jan 19 6:35:34 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from hack.babel.dk (hack.babel.dk [194.255.106.77]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 56AFF15206 for ; Wed, 19 Jan 2000 06:35:30 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from shredder@hack.babel.dk) Received: from localhost (shredder@localhost) by hack.babel.dk (8.9.3/8.9.1) with SMTP id PAA14184 for ; Wed, 19 Jan 2000 15:35:28 +0100 (CET) Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2000 15:35:23 +0100 (CET) From: chrw To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: swap_pager_getswapspace: failed (4.0-CURRENT) Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Helllo, I am experiencing problems regarding the swap handler. I am running 4.0-CURRENT FreeBSD 4.0-CURRENT #10 The box is running apache-1.3.9, cucipop v1.32, and sendmail 8.9.3. Kernel is configured with 512 MAXUSERS, swap device is 400MB with real memory = 134201344 (131056K bytes) avail memory = 126275584 (123316K bytes) Apache is is configured to run with MinSpareServers 50 MaxSpareServers 100 The box runs without any problems, and not using very much swap space for about 24 hours, then suddenly it generates the error message: Jan 19 13:03:03 hostname /kernel: swap_pager_getswapspace: failed and about 1 min later, it stops responding to any service requests. I would be gratefull for any hints or suggestions concerning what might cause this fatal problem and possible solutions. CW To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Wed Jan 19 9:36:16 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from florence.pavilion.net (florence.pavilion.net [212.74.0.25]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3237A1529D for ; Wed, 19 Jan 2000 09:36:01 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from joe@florence.pavilion.net) Received: (from joe@localhost) by florence.pavilion.net (8.9.3/8.8.8) id RAA88010; Wed, 19 Jan 2000 17:35:31 GMT (envelope-from joe) Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2000 17:35:31 +0000 From: Josef Karthauser To: Yoshinobu Inoue Cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: filtering of IPv6 over IPv4? Message-ID: <20000119173531.I62327@florence.pavilion.net> References: <20000119212045D.shin@nd.net.fujitsu.co.jp> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0pre2i In-Reply-To: <20000119212045D.shin@nd.net.fujitsu.co.jp> X-NCC-RegID: uk.pavilion Organisation: Pavilion Internet plc, Lees House, 21-23 Dyke Road, Brighton, England Phone: +44-845-333-5000 Fax: +44-845-333-5001 Mobile: +44-403-596893 Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Wed, Jan 19, 2000 at 09:20:45PM +0900, Yoshinobu Inoue wrote: > > But I am receiving several reports that some people failed to > establish IPv6 over IPv4 connection via their ISP, and after > several checking, it is found out that their ISP seems to be > filtering those kind of packets. > It just goes to show that all ISPs are not the same :) Joe -- Josef Karthauser FreeBSD: Take the red pill and we'll show you just how Technical Manager deep the rabbit hole goes. (http://www.uk.freebsd.org) Pavilion Internet plc. [joe@pavilion.net, joe@freebsd.org, joe@tao.org.uk] To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Wed Jan 19 9:52:30 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mailgate.fore.com (mailgate.fore.com [169.144.68.6]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7216415326 for ; Wed, 19 Jan 2000 09:52:27 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from dhasak@fore.com) Received: from mailman.fore.com (mailman.fore.com [169.144.2.12]) by mailgate.fore.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA14826; Wed, 19 Jan 2000 12:52:09 -0500 (EST) Received: from dhasak-pc (dhcp129-20.fore.com [169.144.129.20]) by mailman.fore.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id MAA12636; Wed, 19 Jan 2000 12:52:12 -0500 (EST) From: "Damian Hasak" To: "Joe Abley" , "David Wolfskill" Cc: , Subject: RE: net speed Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2000 12:52:16 -0500 Message-ID: <003c01bf62a5$ec375b80$148190a9@dhasak-pc.fore.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2377.0 In-Reply-To: <20000119195314.A4167@patho.gen.nz> Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2120.0 Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org hmm but i would think jitter is more related to timing on a CBR connection > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG > [mailto:owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG]On Behalf Of Joe Abley > Sent: Wednesday, January 19, 2000 1:53 AM > To: David Wolfskill > Cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG; xiyuan@yahoo.com > Subject: Re: net speed > > > On Mon, Jan 17, 2000 at 08:17:24PM -0800, David Wolfskill wrote: > > First, I would contend that "speed" (as such) is not a very meaningful > > term with respect to networks. Indeed, your query relates to that lack > > of meaningfulness, as the text below should show. > > > > There are a couple of different (but related) ways to refer to how fast > > data gets from its source to its destination. The relevant terms are > > "latency" and "bandwidth". Absent a fair amount of context, determining > > which is meant can be challenging. > > And "jitter" and "loss". > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Wed Jan 19 11:12:47 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from artsmail.uwaterloo.ca (artsmail.uwaterloo.ca [129.97.42.40]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 658C1154CE for ; Wed, 19 Jan 2000 11:12:41 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from cmccolm@artsmail.uwaterloo.ca) Received: from artsu217.uwaterloo.ca (cmccolm@artsu217.uwaterloo.ca [129.97.42.43]) by artsmail.uwaterloo.ca (8.9.3/8.9.2) with SMTP id OAA13297 for ; Wed, 19 Jan 2000 14:12:37 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from cmccolm@artsmail.uwaterloo.ca) Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.20000119141236.0079d9b0@artsmail.uwaterloo.ca> X-Sender: cmccolm@artsmail.uwaterloo.ca X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.6 (32) Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2000 14:12:36 -0500 To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org From: Charles McColm Subject: subscribe Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org subscribe .-'''''-. Charles McColm, cmccolm@artsu1.uwaterloo.ca .' `. University of Waterloo : : Honours Arts Undergraduate : : : _/| : "Thus thou hast seen one world begin, and end; : =/_/ : And Man, as from a second stock, proceed." `._/ | .' - PARADISE LOST, XII ( / ,|...-' \_/^\/||__ _/~ `""~`"` \_ __/ -'/ `-._ `\_\__ /jgs /-'` `\ \ \-.\ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Wed Jan 19 14:13:38 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from tardis.patho.gen.nz (tardis.patho.gen.nz [203.97.2.226]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C935514A07 for ; Wed, 19 Jan 2000 14:13:24 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jabley@tardis.patho.gen.nz) Received: (from jabley@localhost) by tardis.patho.gen.nz (8.9.3/8.9.3) id LAA24987; Thu, 20 Jan 2000 11:13:05 +1300 (NZDT) Date: Thu, 20 Jan 2000 11:13:04 +1300 From: Joe Abley To: Damian Hasak Cc: David Wolfskill , freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG, xiyuan@yahoo.com Subject: Re: net speed Message-ID: <20000120111303.B22700@patho.gen.nz> References: <20000119195314.A4167@patho.gen.nz> <003c01bf62a5$ec375b80$148190a9@dhasak-pc.fore.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0i In-Reply-To: <003c01bf62a5$ec375b80$148190a9@dhasak-pc.fore.com>; from dhasak@fore.com on Wed, Jan 19, 2000 at 12:52:16PM -0500 X-Files: the Truth is Out There Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Wed, Jan 19, 2000 at 12:52:16PM -0500, Damian Hasak wrote: > hmm but i would think jitter is more related to timing on a CBR connection Can't a noticable variation in delay in successive segments (with the timestamp option, for example) result in a wildly varying transmit window size on both sides? Somewhat implementation-specific, certainly, but in general TCP behaves much more efficiently if the round-trip time is reasonable predictable (or poorly measured, alternatively, as long as the poor measurement is reasonable :) Virtual-circuit concerns in ATM mirror session concerns in TCP to some degree, except that congestion conditions are identified (and remedied) in somewhat different ways. Joe To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Wed Jan 19 17:19:30 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from zero.arkaine.com (zero.arkaine.com [206.217.210.40]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8334414C2A; Wed, 19 Jan 2000 17:19:22 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from andre@arkaine.com) Received: from s.arkaine.com (s.arkaine.com [192.168.10.10]) by zero.arkaine.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id VAA01053; Wed, 19 Jan 2000 21:15:00 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from andre@arkaine.com) Received: by s.arkaine.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) id ; Wed, 19 Jan 2000 20:22:24 -0500 Message-ID: <6C191944837ED311863A00104BC7598F774E@s.arkaine.com> From: Andre Chang To: "'Stuart Henderson'" , Omachonu Ogali Cc: Brian Gallucci , isp@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-ipfw@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: RE: New Firewall Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2000 20:22:13 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Mr. Henderson, could you elaborate on the "icmp fragmentation-needed messages" please? I'm trying to track down the following error: Jan 18 09:02:56 `host_clipped` sendmail[49987]: NOQUEUE: SYSERR: putoutmsg ([xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx]): error on output channel sending "220 `hostname_clipped` ESMTP Sendmail 8.9.3/8.9.3; Tue, 18 Jan 2000 09:02:56 GMT": Broken pipe Thanks. -----Original Message----- From: Stuart Henderson [mailto:sh@eclipse.net.uk] Sent: Tuesday, January 18, 2000 11:35 AM To: Omachonu Ogali Cc: Brian Gallucci; isp@FreeBSD.ORG; freebsd-ipfw@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: New Firewall > The following rules can help if you are going to be running SMTP, HTTP, > POP3, and HTTPS, delete what you don't need. You also need to pass icmp fragmentation-needed messages if you don't want to risk breaking access to/from some sites. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-ipfw" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Wed Jan 19 20: 9:19 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mail.island.net.au (mail.island.net.au [203.28.142.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BB24F1536F for ; Wed, 19 Jan 2000 20:09:10 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from hugh@island.net.au) Received: from solo (solo.island.net.au [203.28.142.5]) by mail.island.net.au (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id PAA17751 for ; Thu, 20 Jan 2000 15:09:03 +1100 (EST) Message-ID: <003601bf62fb$b276b2a0$088ea8c0@island.net.au> From: "Hugh Blandford" To: Subject: NIS and Kerberos Date: Thu, 20 Jan 2000 15:06:15 +1100 Organization: Island Internet MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi all, following the thread a short while back on integrating a group of different Unix boxes into the one password 'system', someone suggested using NIS and Kerberos. Has anyone done this? Did you use it over a LAN only or in a WAN environment? What speed links were you using? Bear in mind that the links I am talking about are slower rather than faster ;-) Thanks, Hugh To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Wed Jan 19 20:45: 2 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from cc942873-a.ewndsr1.nj.home.com (cc942873-a.ewndsr1.nj.home.com [24.2.89.207]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4826114E9F; Wed, 19 Jan 2000 20:44:57 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from cjc@cc942873-a.ewndsr1.nj.home.com) Received: (from cjc@localhost) by cc942873-a.ewndsr1.nj.home.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id XAA71154; Wed, 19 Jan 2000 23:48:27 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from cjc) Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2000 23:48:27 -0500 From: "Crist J. Clark" To: "Rodney W. Grimes" Cc: James Wyatt , Omachonu Ogali , Brian Gallucci , isp@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-ipfw@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: New Firewall Message-ID: <20000119234827.A70698@cc942873-a.ewndsr1.nj.home.com> References: <200001181740.JAA48605@gndrsh.dnsmgr.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0i In-Reply-To: <200001181740.JAA48605@gndrsh.dnsmgr.net>; from freebsd@gndrsh.dnsmgr.net on Tue, Jan 18, 2000 at 09:40:33AM -0800 Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Tue, Jan 18, 2000 at 09:40:33AM -0800, Rodney W. Grimes wrote: > > On Tue, 18 Jan 2000, Omachonu Ogali wrote: > > > The following rules can help if you are going to be running SMTP, HTTP, > > > POP3, and HTTPS, delete what you don't need. > > [ ... ] > > > # -- Deny setup of other incoming connections > > > ipfw add deny tcp from any to any setup > > > > > > # -- Deny other incoming IP packets. > > > ipfw add deny ip from any to any > > > > These rules are duplicate, so you can drop the first one. The last rule is > > commonly the default in /etc/rc.firewall as well. That aside, I might keep > > the first one and change it to '... deny log ...", thus logging connection > > attempts. On the other hand, that's what log_in_vain="YES" in /etc/rc.conf > > is all about... - Jy@ > > These rules are not equivelent, ip != tcp, and setup != null. The first > rule is _VERY_ important. The second can be eliminated, see other email > from me on missing ``setup'' on all the other rules... Huh? While it's true the rules are obviously not "duplicates" or "equivalent," the first one is not necessary when these two appear next to one another and no logging is done (like it is written). Anything that would be denied by the first rule would be denied by the second, i.e. all packets that match the first rule are a subset of the packets that match the second. Or am I missing something? -- Crist J. Clark cjclark@home.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Wed Jan 19 21: 1: 7 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from gndrsh.dnsmgr.net (GndRsh.dnsmgr.net [198.145.92.4]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1C6AF14DC3; Wed, 19 Jan 2000 21:01:02 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from freebsd@gndrsh.dnsmgr.net) Received: (from freebsd@localhost) by gndrsh.dnsmgr.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) id VAA53835; Wed, 19 Jan 2000 21:00:29 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from freebsd) From: "Rodney W. Grimes" Message-Id: <200001200500.VAA53835@gndrsh.dnsmgr.net> Subject: Re: New Firewall In-Reply-To: <20000119234827.A70698@cc942873-a.ewndsr1.nj.home.com> from "Crist J. Clark" at "Jan 19, 2000 11:48:27 pm" To: cjc@cc942873-a.ewndsr1.nj.home.com (Crist J. Clark) Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2000 21:00:29 -0800 (PST) Cc: jwyatt@rwsystems.net (James Wyatt), oogali@intranova.net (Omachonu Ogali), briang@expnet.net (Brian Gallucci), isp@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-ipfw@FreeBSD.ORG X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL54 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > On Tue, Jan 18, 2000 at 09:40:33AM -0800, Rodney W. Grimes wrote: > > > On Tue, 18 Jan 2000, Omachonu Ogali wrote: > > > > The following rules can help if you are going to be running SMTP, HTTP, > > > > POP3, and HTTPS, delete what you don't need. > > > [ ... ] > > > > # -- Deny setup of other incoming connections > > > > ipfw add deny tcp from any to any setup > > > > > > > > # -- Deny other incoming IP packets. > > > > ipfw add deny ip from any to any > > > > > > These rules are duplicate, so you can drop the first one. The last rule is > > > commonly the default in /etc/rc.firewall as well. That aside, I might keep > > > the first one and change it to '... deny log ...", thus logging connection > > > attempts. On the other hand, that's what log_in_vain="YES" in /etc/rc.conf > > > is all about... - Jy@ I missed this the first time around. log_in_vain will not always do what a log deny would do on this rule. log_in_vain will only catch connections to the router/host, not packets passing through the router if it is a real firewall/forwarding engine. > > > > These rules are not equivelent, ip != tcp, and setup != null. The first > > rule is _VERY_ important. The second can be eliminated, see other email > > from me on missing ``setup'' on all the other rules... > > Huh? > > While it's true the rules are obviously not "duplicates" or > "equivalent," the first one is not necessary when these two appear next > to one another and no logging is done (like it is written). Then it would have been clearer had you said ``The second rule is redundant because...'' > Anything > that would be denied by the first rule would be denied by the > second, i.e. all packets that match the first rule are a subset of the > packets that match the second. Yes, that is true, however I still stand by my statement, and you confirm that here, that ``these rules are not equivelent'' > > Or am I missing something? Yea, that people often add rules between other rules, especially between those 2 rules :-). (For example that is one place that ttcp syn/fin packet processing can be done.) -- Rod Grimes - KD7CAX @ CN85sl - (RWG25) rgrimes@gndrsh.dnsmgr.net To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Wed Jan 19 22:23:40 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from orange.kame.net (orange.kame.net [203.178.141.194]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D9A7115360 for ; Wed, 19 Jan 2000 22:23:37 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from shin@nd.net.fujitsu.co.jp) Received: from localhost (kame217.kame.net [203.178.141.217]) by orange.kame.net (8.9.1+3.1W/3.7W) with ESMTP id PAA16232; Thu, 20 Jan 2000 15:23:33 +0900 (JST) To: joe@pavilion.net Cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: filtering of IPv6 over IPv4? In-Reply-To: <20000119173531.I62327@florence.pavilion.net> References: <20000119212045D.shin@nd.net.fujitsu.co.jp> <20000119173531.I62327@florence.pavilion.net> X-Mailer: Mew version 1.94 on Emacs 20.4 / Mule 4.0 (HANANOEN) X-Prom-Mew: Prom-Mew 1.93.4 (procmail reader for Mew) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <20000120152411T.shin@nd.net.fujitsu.co.jp> Date: Thu, 20 Jan 2000 15:24:11 +0900 From: Yoshinobu Inoue X-Dispatcher: imput version 990905(IM130) Lines: 19 Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > > But I am receiving several reports that some people failed to > > establish IPv6 over IPv4 connection via their ISP, and after > > several checking, it is found out that their ISP seems to be > > filtering those kind of packets. > > It just goes to show that all ISPs are not the same :) > > Joe Yes, but I don't think they are intentionally filtering it. They would be just filtering all unknown type of packets for them. So I think, the possibility of the problem need to be announced to broader place, and need to be recognized by as much of ISPs as possible. Yoshinobu Inoue To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Thu Jan 20 1:52:53 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from florence.pavilion.net (florence.pavilion.net [212.74.0.25]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 26D9914F58 for ; Thu, 20 Jan 2000 01:52:50 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from joe@florence.pavilion.net) Received: (from joe@localhost) by florence.pavilion.net (8.9.3/8.8.8) id JAA70801; Thu, 20 Jan 2000 09:52:44 GMT (envelope-from joe) Date: Thu, 20 Jan 2000 09:52:44 +0000 From: Josef Karthauser To: Yoshinobu Inoue Cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: filtering of IPv6 over IPv4? Message-ID: <20000120095244.M62327@florence.pavilion.net> References: <20000119212045D.shin@nd.net.fujitsu.co.jp> <20000119173531.I62327@florence.pavilion.net> <20000120152411T.shin@nd.net.fujitsu.co.jp> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0pre2i In-Reply-To: <20000120152411T.shin@nd.net.fujitsu.co.jp> X-NCC-RegID: uk.pavilion Organisation: Pavilion Internet plc, Lees House, 21-23 Dyke Road, Brighton, England Phone: +44-845-333-5000 Fax: +44-845-333-5001 Mobile: +44-403-596893 Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Thu, Jan 20, 2000 at 03:24:11PM +0900, Yoshinobu Inoue wrote: > > > But I am receiving several reports that some people failed to > > > establish IPv6 over IPv4 connection via their ISP, and after > > > several checking, it is found out that their ISP seems to be > > > filtering those kind of packets. > > > > It just goes to show that all ISPs are not the same :) > > Yes, but I don't think they are intentionally filtering it. > They would be just filtering all unknown type of packets for > them. > > So I think, the possibility of the problem need to be > announced to broader place, and need to be recognized by as > much of ISPs as possible. > Yes! But ISP don't _need_ to filter unknown traffic. If they filter by address then it's up to the user to decide what traffic they want to send. Joe -- Josef Karthauser FreeBSD: Take the red pill and we'll show you just how Technical Manager deep the rabbit hole goes. (http://www.uk.freebsd.org) Pavilion Internet plc. [joe@pavilion.net, joe@freebsd.org, joe@tao.org.uk] To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Thu Jan 20 3:51:35 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from intranova.net (blacklisted.intranova.net [209.3.31.70]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id DCE3314DA2 for ; Thu, 20 Jan 2000 03:51:29 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from oogali@intranova.net) Received: (qmail 91615 invoked from network); 20 Jan 2000 06:53:40 -0000 Received: from missnglnk.wants.to-fuck.com (HELO hydrant.intranova.net) (user58572@209.201.95.10) by blacklisted.intranova.net with SMTP; 20 Jan 2000 06:53:40 -0000 Date: Thu, 20 Jan 2000 06:50:18 -0500 (EST) From: Omachonu Ogali To: Andre Chang Cc: 'Stuart Henderson' , Brian Gallucci , isp@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-ipfw@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: RE: New Firewall In-Reply-To: <6C191944837ED311863A00104BC7598F774E@s.arkaine.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I'm not sure what he meant by ICMP fragmentation-needed messages, but yes, ICMP is needed for reliable communication and faster communication (primarily unreachables), so you can allow ICMP to pass through but I wouldn't recommend it after seeing 24Mbps smurfs come through... And in your case Andre, ICMP fragmentation has nothing to do with your sendmail problem, that shows that your connection is breaking/dropping after a while, maybe the remote side is closing the connection prematurely...check it out by telnetting to the remote host on port 25 and imitate a regular SMTP transaction to find the problem... Omachonu Ogali Intranova Networking Group On Wed, 19 Jan 2000, Andre Chang wrote: > Mr. Henderson, > > could you elaborate on the "icmp fragmentation-needed messages" please? > > I'm trying to track down the following error: > > Jan 18 09:02:56 `host_clipped` sendmail[49987]: NOQUEUE: SYSERR: putoutmsg > ([xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx]): error on output channel sending "220 `hostname_clipped` > ESMTP Sendmail 8.9.3/8.9.3; Tue, 18 Jan 2000 09:02:56 GMT": Broken pipe > > Thanks. > > -----Original Message----- > From: Stuart Henderson [mailto:sh@eclipse.net.uk] > Sent: Tuesday, January 18, 2000 11:35 AM > To: Omachonu Ogali > Cc: Brian Gallucci; isp@FreeBSD.ORG; freebsd-ipfw@FreeBSD.ORG > Subject: Re: New Firewall > > > > The following rules can help if you are going to be running SMTP, HTTP, > > POP3, and HTTPS, delete what you don't need. > > You also need to pass icmp fragmentation-needed messages if you > don't want to risk breaking access to/from some sites. > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-ipfw" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Thu Jan 20 4:34:58 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from doriath.saers.com (libretto.x0.net [193.216.248.37]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 29B3015409 for ; Thu, 20 Jan 2000 04:34:55 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from niklasmls@saers.com) Received: from localhost (niklasmls@localhost) by doriath.saers.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA99664 for ; Thu, 20 Jan 2000 13:34:54 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from niklasmls@saers.com) Date: Thu, 20 Jan 2000 13:34:53 +0100 (CET) From: Niklas Saers Mailinglistaccount To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: mirroring-solutions Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi, I'd like to ask you for some input on a mirroring-topic: Right now I'm running the box doriath.saers.com. It's having accounts for about a hundered users, has about 50 web-virtualhosts (running Apache&PHP), runs a couple of databases under MySQL and it runs DNS for a couple of domains. That's pretty much all the box does. As I'm no large, commercial business but only a student, all this has been packed into one box. But, a recent downtime because of a disk failure has alerted me. Problem is, I'm going to be on the other side of the planet as an exchange student for an entire year. During that time I need the computer to be up. My users need the computer to be up. As you all know, disks do crash, shit does happen. So I'd like to be prepared for this. My idea is to set up a twin-box which mirrors the entire computer. When doriath goes down, this mirror-box will replace it. Sounds good, but I'm not sure about how to solve this practically. What would be nice to is that if I first have another mirror-box up, this could be used for load balancing. So, my idea is as following: set up two extra boxes: one mirror of doriath and one load-balancing server. This sounds nice, but I have a few questions even to this: - How do I ensure that changes which happen on box a are updated on box b as well? - How do I ensure that changes on myfile on box a and changes on myfile on box b look like one change on the box? If programming one box I'd use semaphores or transactions (depending on what I was writing) but how do I see to it that this goes smooth so that no data is being outdated or invalid? - What software should I use for load-balancing? - Can I use this software for all the services described above? And most of all: what happens if the load-balancing server crashes? Will both the mirror boxes be unavailable? Because if this happens, we're back to scratch. Will it be better for uptime that I have one mirror-computer up and just change the IP on the box when the other one goes down? Thanks in advance for your thoughts on this matter :) Niklas Saers To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Thu Jan 20 5: 0:44 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from proteus.eclipse.net.uk (proteus.eclipse.net.uk [195.188.32.118]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6041714D0D; Thu, 20 Jan 2000 05:00:40 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from stuart@eclipse.net.uk) Received: from eclipse.net.uk (elara.eclipse.net.uk [195.188.32.31]) by proteus.eclipse.net.uk (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8F93F9DA6; Thu, 20 Jan 2000 13:00:28 +0000 (GMT) Message-ID: <38870705.EB4386DB@eclipse.net.uk> Date: Thu, 20 Jan 2000 13:00:53 +0000 From: Stuart Henderson Organization: Eclipse Networking Ltd X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (WinNT; U) X-Accept-Language: en-GB MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Omachonu Ogali Cc: Andre Chang , 'Stuart Henderson' , Brian Gallucci , isp@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-ipfw@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: New Firewall References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > I'm not sure what he meant by ICMP fragmentation-needed messages, He meant what is mentioned in the Postfix faq. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Thu Jan 20 8:20: 2 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mail1.bna.bellsouth.net (mail1.bna.bellsouth.net [205.152.150.13]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 22A3E14D54 for ; Thu, 20 Jan 2000 08:19:58 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jim@siteplus.com) Received: from siteplus.com (host-216-78-3-185.jan.bellsouth.net [216.78.3.185]) by mail1.bna.bellsouth.net (3.3.5alt/0.75.2) with ESMTP id LAA12689 for ; Thu, 20 Jan 2000 11:20:06 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <388735A7.3922CA76@siteplus.com> Date: Thu, 20 Jan 2000 11:19:51 -0500 From: Jim Weeks Organization: SitePlus Web Services X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.51 [en] (X11; I; Linux 2.2.5-15 i586) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG" Subject: curious kernel log messages Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi all, Has anyone seen this one before. kernel log messages: > 0 on /var: file system full Especially with this, Disk status: Filesystem 1K-blocks Used Avail Capacity Mounted on /dev/da0s2a 99183 25758 65491 28% / /dev/da1s1e 8617423 1771423 6156607 22% /bak /dev/da0s2f 7813726 1209641 5978987 17% /usr /dev/da0s2e 99183 29651 61598 32% /var procfs 4 4 0 100% /proc I am confused, -- Jim Weeks jim@siteplus.com http://siteplus.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Thu Jan 20 9:41:25 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from gndrsh.dnsmgr.net (GndRsh.dnsmgr.net [198.145.92.4]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8A57814C37; Thu, 20 Jan 2000 09:41:19 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from freebsd@gndrsh.dnsmgr.net) Received: (from freebsd@localhost) by gndrsh.dnsmgr.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) id JAA54999; Thu, 20 Jan 2000 09:40:31 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from freebsd) From: "Rodney W. Grimes" Message-Id: <200001201740.JAA54999@gndrsh.dnsmgr.net> Subject: Re: New Firewall In-Reply-To: from Omachonu Ogali at "Jan 20, 2000 06:50:18 am" To: oogali@intranova.net (Omachonu Ogali) Date: Thu, 20 Jan 2000 09:40:31 -0800 (PST) Cc: andre@arkaine.com (Andre Chang), sh@eclipse.net.uk ('Stuart Henderson'), briang@expnet.net (Brian Gallucci), isp@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-ipfw@FreeBSD.ORG X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL54 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > I'm not sure what he meant by ICMP fragmentation-needed messages, but > yes, ICMP is needed for reliable communication and faster communication > (primarily unreachables), so you can allow ICMP to pass through but I > wouldn't recommend it after seeing 24Mbps smurfs come through... > > And in your case Andre, ICMP fragmentation has nothing to do with your > sendmail problem, that shows that your connection is breaking/dropping > after a while, maybe the remote side is closing the connection > prematurely...check it out by telnetting to the remote host on port 25 and > imitate a regular SMTP transaction to find the problem... If Andre is filtering ICMP 3.4 (ICMP_UNREACH.ICMP_UNREACH_NEEDFRAG) it certainly could have to do with his sendmail problem. -- Rod Grimes - KD7CAX @ CN85sl - (RWG25) rgrimes@gndrsh.dnsmgr.net To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Thu Jan 20 9:57:32 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from etinc.com (et-gw.etinc.com [207.252.1.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2208D14C1C for ; Thu, 20 Jan 2000 09:57:28 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from dennis@etinc.com) Received: from dbsys (dbsys.etinc.com [207.252.1.18]) by etinc.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id NAA02462; Thu, 20 Jan 2000 13:04:00 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <200001201804.NAA02462@etinc.com> X-Sender: dennis@etinc.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.0 Date: Thu, 20 Jan 2000 12:52:56 -0500 To: wwlists@intraceptives.com.au (Warren Welch) From: Dennis Subject: Re: WAN Interface... Cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <200001171915.LAA67796@bubba.whistle.com> References: <4.2.1.20000110123548.00dfd700@arthur.intraceptives.com.au> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org At 11:15 AM 1/17/00 -0800, Archie Cobbs wrote: >Warren Welch writes: >> I'm looking for a WAN interface (X21 or V35) for FreeBSD, preferably one >> that has some sort of frame-relay support. (What's FreeBSD's capabilities >> like with frame-relay?) We have full featured frame relay support including integrated bandwidth management and statistical analysis which can be used to handle bursting and CIR traffic managmenet. we also offer full commercial support at no extra cost. See info at www.etinc.com/pcisync.htm Dennis Emerging Technologies, Inc. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- --------- http://www.etinc.com ISA and PCI T1/T3/V35/HSSI Cards for FreeBSD and LINUX Multiport T1 and HSSI/T3 UNIX-based Routers Bandwidth Management Standalone Systems Bandwidth Management software for LINUX and FreeBSD DSL Frame Relay Bridging over T1 and T3 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Thu Jan 20 10: 3:55 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from cerberus.charnocks.net (cerberus.charnocks.net [209.197.192.34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0CB7A14E3F for ; Thu, 20 Jan 2000 10:03:52 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from charnock@charnocks.net) Received: from localhost (charnock@localhost) by cerberus.charnocks.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA80493; Thu, 20 Jan 2000 12:16:08 -0600 (CST) Date: Thu, 20 Jan 2000 12:16:08 -0600 (CST) From: "William R. Charnock" To: Jim Weeks Cc: "freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG" Subject: Re: curious kernel log messages In-Reply-To: <388735A7.3922CA76@siteplus.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Probably you are out of inodes... Try df -i and see what it reports... -- William R. Charnock Sr. Backbone Engineer Allegiance Telecom, Inc. On Thu, 20 Jan 2000, Jim Weeks wrote: > Hi all, > > Has anyone seen this one before. > > kernel log messages: > > 0 on /var: file system full > > Especially with this, > > Disk status: > Filesystem 1K-blocks Used Avail Capacity Mounted on > /dev/da0s2a 99183 25758 65491 28% / > /dev/da1s1e 8617423 1771423 6156607 22% /bak > /dev/da0s2f 7813726 1209641 5978987 17% /usr > /dev/da0s2e 99183 29651 61598 32% /var > procfs 4 4 0 100% /proc > > I am confused, > > -- > Jim Weeks > jim@siteplus.com > http://siteplus.com > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Thu Jan 20 10:12: 3 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from jade.chc-chimes.com (jade.chc-chimes.com [216.28.46.6]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4A9B3151ED for ; Thu, 20 Jan 2000 10:12:02 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from billf@jade.chc-chimes.com) Received: by jade.chc-chimes.com (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 6FD5A1C41; Thu, 20 Jan 2000 13:12:01 -0500 (EST) Date: Thu, 20 Jan 2000 13:12:01 -0500 From: Bill Fumerola To: "William R. Charnock" Cc: Jim Weeks , "freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG" Subject: Re: curious kernel log messages Message-ID: <20000120131201.A42787@jade.chc-chimes.com> References: <388735A7.3922CA76@siteplus.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0i In-Reply-To: ; from charnock@charnocks.net on Thu, Jan 20, 2000 at 12:16:08PM -0600 X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 3.2-RELEASE i386 Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Thu, Jan 20, 2000 at 12:16:08PM -0600, William R. Charnock wrote: > Probably you are out of inodes... > > Try df -i and see what it reports... Better yet: try 'fstat -f /var' and look for large sized open files. -- Bill Fumerola - Network Architect Computer Horizons Corp - CVM e-mail: billf@chc-chimes.com / billf@FreeBSD.org Office: 800-252-2421 x128 / Cell: 248-761-7272 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Thu Jan 20 10:18: 9 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from ns.trigger.net (ns.trigger.net [204.50.18.5]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E11E8152D2 for ; Thu, 20 Jan 2000 10:17:57 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from bsdnews@trigger.net) Received: from mike (evil.sysadmin.trigger.net [204.50.18.204]) by ns.trigger.net (8.9.3/8.6.9) with SMTP id NAA93937; Thu, 20 Jan 2000 13:05:00 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <002f01bf6371$1877c560$cc1232cc@trigger.net> From: "bsdnews" To: "Jim Weeks" , References: <388735A7.3922CA76@siteplus.com> Subject: Re: curious kernel log messages Date: Thu, 20 Jan 2000 13:06:37 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6600 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6600 Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Yes I have, Just this morning I was reading the daily output logs, and I got a LOT of this: file: table is full file: table is full file: table is full .... Yet, all the filesystems have more then enough space left. If someone has an answer to this, please let me know. Thanks. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jim Weeks" To: Sent: Thursday, January 20, 2000 11:19 AM Subject: curious kernel log messages > Hi all, > > Has anyone seen this one before. > > kernel log messages: > > 0 on /var: file system full > > Especially with this, > > Disk status: > Filesystem 1K-blocks Used Avail Capacity Mounted on > /dev/da0s2a 99183 25758 65491 28% / > /dev/da1s1e 8617423 1771423 6156607 22% /bak > /dev/da0s2f 7813726 1209641 5978987 17% /usr > /dev/da0s2e 99183 29651 61598 32% /var > procfs 4 4 0 100% /proc > > I am confused, > > -- > Jim Weeks > jim@siteplus.com > http://siteplus.com > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Thu Jan 20 10:27:50 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from bilver.magicnet.net (bilver.magicnet.net [157.238.16.49]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7089F14E40 for ; Thu, 20 Jan 2000 10:27:46 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from bill@bilver.magicnet.net) Received: (from bill@localhost) by bilver.magicnet.net (8.9.3/8.9.1) id NAA03176 for freebsd-isp@freebsd.org; Thu, 20 Jan 2000 13:26:01 -0500 (EST) Date: Thu, 20 Jan 2000 13:26:01 -0500 From: Bill Vermillion To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: Re: curious kernel log messages Message-ID: <20000120132601.A3042@bilver.magicnet.net> References: <388735A7.3922CA76@siteplus.com> <002f01bf6371$1877c560$cc1232cc@trigger.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0i In-Reply-To: <002f01bf6371$1877c560$cc1232cc@trigger.net>; from bsdnews@trigger.net on Thu, Jan 20, 2000 at 01:06:37PM -0500 Organization: Vermillion Consulting Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Thu, Jan 20, 2000 at 01:06:37PM -0500, Thus Spake bsdnews: > Yes I have, Just this morning I was reading the daily output logs, > and I got a LOT of this: > file: table is full > file: table is full > file: table is full > .... > Yet, all the filesystems have more then enough space left. If > someone has an answer to this, please let me know. I've seen this and then found I had no problem later. I think it was a cron job that ran out of space, and when it aborted it cleaned up after itself. Bill -- Bill Vermillion bv @ wjv.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Thu Jan 20 10:51:29 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from guardian.fortress.org (guardian-ext.fortress.org [199.202.137.242]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 700C514D6A for ; Thu, 20 Jan 2000 10:51:25 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from andrew@guardian.fortress.org) Received: from localhost (andrew@localhost) by guardian.fortress.org (8.9.3/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA42924; Thu, 20 Jan 2000 13:50:17 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from andrew@guardian.fortress.org) Date: Thu, 20 Jan 2000 13:50:17 -0500 (EST) From: Andrew Webster Reply-To: andrew@pubnix.net To: Bill Vermillion Cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: curious kernel log messages In-Reply-To: <20000120132601.A3042@bilver.magicnet.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Actually, you might have run out of open file handles in the kernel. This is directly affected by the MAXUSERS setting which if not defined is derived from the number of users setting in the kernel using the following forumula MAXFILES = 2 * (20 + 16 * MAXUSERS) See /sys/conf/param.c for how all this stuff is calculated. On Thu, 20 Jan 2000, Bill Vermillion wrote: > On Thu, Jan 20, 2000 at 01:06:37PM -0500, Thus Spake bsdnews: > > > Yes I have, Just this morning I was reading the daily output logs, > > and I got a LOT of this: > > > file: table is full > > file: table is full > > file: table is full > > .... > > > Yet, all the filesystems have more then enough space left. If > > someone has an answer to this, please let me know. > > I've seen this and then found I had no problem later. I think it > was a cron job that ran out of space, and when it aborted it > cleaned up after itself. > > Bill > -- > Bill Vermillion bv @ wjv.com > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message > --- Andrew Webster FULL SERVICE ISP President http://www.pubnix.net PubNIX Inc. Access: PPP - SHELL - UUCP - VPN - ... P.O. Box 147 Hosting: WWW - Email - DB - Your Servers - ... C.S.L. QC H4V 2Y3 tel: 514-990-5911 fax: 514-990-9443 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Thu Jan 20 12:32:20 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from ns.trigger.net (ns.trigger.net [204.50.18.5]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E3D3B14C3E for ; Thu, 20 Jan 2000 12:32:08 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from bsdnews@trigger.net) Received: from mike (evil.sysadmin.trigger.net [204.50.18.204]) by ns.trigger.net (8.9.3/8.6.9) with SMTP id PAA18773; Thu, 20 Jan 2000 15:17:07 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <000d01bf6383$8c6cf640$cc1232cc@trigger.net> From: "bsdnews" To: , "Bill Vermillion" Cc: References: Subject: Re: curious kernel log messages Date: Thu, 20 Jan 2000 15:18:43 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6600 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6600 Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org MAXUSERS is set to 128. The system is a p2-350, 2 8GIG Ultra2 SCSI drives, 128 RAM (300 swap), and an fxp nic. It runs low load apache, named, sendmail (medium to high load), delegated, squid, and radiusd. Would a setting of 128 in this case be insufficient? Also some suggested doing a 'fstat -f /var' command and searching for large open files. This is the largest open file I have found. root radiusd 297 1 /var 7962 -rw-r----- 288927657 w root radiusd 294 text /var 7964 -rwx------ 28903 r root radiusd 294 1 /var 7962 -rw-r----- 288927657 w Filesystem 1K-blocks Used Avail Capacity iused ifree %iused Mounted on /dev/da1s1g 3175193 1727393 1193785 59% 15667 777931 2% /var Could this cause a problem? For some reason the log does not provide information on what file or filesystem is being effected. Thanks. > Actually, you might have run out of open file handles in the kernel. > This is directly affected by the MAXUSERS setting which if not defined is > derived from the number of users setting in the kernel using the following > forumula > > MAXFILES = 2 * (20 + 16 * MAXUSERS) > > See /sys/conf/param.c for how all this stuff is calculated. > > On Thu, 20 Jan 2000, Bill Vermillion wrote: > > > On Thu, Jan 20, 2000 at 01:06:37PM -0500, Thus Spake bsdnews: > > > > > Yes I have, Just this morning I was reading the daily output logs, > > > and I got a LOT of this: > > > > > file: table is full > > > file: table is full > > > file: table is full > > > .... > > > > > Yet, all the filesystems have more then enough space left. If > > > someone has an answer to this, please let me know. > > > > I've seen this and then found I had no problem later. I think it > > was a cron job that ran out of space, and when it aborted it > > cleaned up after itself. > > > > Bill > > -- > > Bill Vermillion bv @ wjv.com > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message > > > > --- > Andrew Webster FULL SERVICE ISP > President http://www.pubnix.net > PubNIX Inc. Access: PPP - SHELL - UUCP - VPN - ... > P.O. Box 147 Hosting: WWW - Email - DB - Your Servers - ... > C.S.L. QC H4V 2Y3 tel: 514-990-5911 fax: 514-990-9443 > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Thu Jan 20 12:39:14 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from jade.chc-chimes.com (jade.chc-chimes.com [216.28.46.6]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 49EA514DC4 for ; Thu, 20 Jan 2000 12:39:12 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from billf@jade.chc-chimes.com) Received: by jade.chc-chimes.com (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 55D0F1C57; Thu, 20 Jan 2000 15:39:11 -0500 (EST) Date: Thu, 20 Jan 2000 15:39:11 -0500 From: Bill Fumerola To: bsdnews Cc: andrew@pubnix.net, Bill Vermillion , freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: curious kernel log messages Message-ID: <20000120153911.D42787@jade.chc-chimes.com> References: <000d01bf6383$8c6cf640$cc1232cc@trigger.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0i In-Reply-To: <000d01bf6383$8c6cf640$cc1232cc@trigger.net>; from bsdnews@trigger.net on Thu, Jan 20, 2000 at 03:18:43PM -0500 X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 3.2-RELEASE i386 Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Thu, Jan 20, 2000 at 03:18:43PM -0500, bsdnews wrote: > Would a setting of 128 in this case be insufficient? Also some suggested > doing a 'fstat -f /var' command and searching for large open files. This is > the largest open file I have found. That was me who suggested it. > root radiusd 297 1 /var 7962 -rw-r----- 288927657 w > root radiusd 294 text /var 7964 -rwx------ 28903 r > root radiusd 294 1 /var 7962 -rw-r----- 288927657 w > > Filesystem 1K-blocks Used Avail Capacity iused ifree %iused > Mounted on > /dev/da1s1g 3175193 1727393 1193785 59% 15667 777931 2% /var > > Could this cause a problem? For some reason the log does not provide > information on what file or filesystem is being effected. Uhm. your radius logs. Do a little detective work. That's a 288MB file it has open and is writing (or trying to..) write to. lsof (from the ports) can be helpful though, if you don't understand the above output. -- Bill Fumerola - Network Architect Computer Horizons Corp - CVM e-mail: billf@chc-chimes.com / billf@FreeBSD.org Office: 800-252-2421 x128 / Cell: 248-761-7272 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Thu Jan 20 13:14:19 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from dominik.saargate.de (dominik.saargate.de [212.88.133.252]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 969811539F for ; Thu, 20 Jan 2000 13:14:16 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from domi@saargate.de) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by dominik.saargate.de (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id VAA23055; Thu, 20 Jan 2000 21:49:54 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from domi@saargate.de) Date: Thu, 20 Jan 2000 21:49:54 +0100 (CET) From: Dominik Brettnacher To: "jim@siteplus.com" Cc: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: Re: curious kernel log messages In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Thu, 20 Jan 2000, jim@siteplus.com wrote: > Has anyone seen this one before. try "df -i"... -- Dominik - http://www.saargate.de/~domi/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Thu Jan 20 14:44:24 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from bofh.ops.uunet.co.za (bofh.ops.uunet.co.za [196.31.1.35]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BDB8214E49 for ; Thu, 20 Jan 2000 14:44:21 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from khetan@uunet.co.za) Received: by bofh.ops.uunet.co.za (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 2C88A5BBD; Fri, 21 Jan 2000 00:44:11 +0200 (SAST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by bofh.ops.uunet.co.za (Postfix) with ESMTP id 173871EBC; Fri, 21 Jan 2000 00:44:11 +0200 (SAST) Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2000 00:44:11 +0200 (SAST) From: Khetan Gajjar X-Sender: khetan@bofh.ops.uunet.co.za To: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Josu=E9_Jos=E9_Souza_Jr=2E?= Cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: SMTP/SSL In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=X-UNKNOWN Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8BIT Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Around Wednesday, "Josué José Souza Jr." wrote : JJSJ> My question is if there is a way to configure sendmail to support SSL or JJSJ> if stunnel can detect clients intention to use or not SSL and then act JJSJ> just passing the message foward to sendmail (client not using SSL) or do JJSJ> it's regular job adding SSL before passing it to sendmail. Using stunnel is relatively dangerous for forwarding SMTP transactions. The problem is that stunnel will report to sendmail that there is a connection from localhost (not a biggie because you should be recording stunnel output), and will therefore apply anti-spam/UCE/relay rules as if the mail sender was on the machine (which usually means allow everything/anywhere). It's best to SSL support _built-in_ to the mailer, rather than use hacks like stunnel (which I use with great pleasure for IMAP and POP3). Khetan Gajjar. --- khetan@uunet.co.za * khetan@os.org.za * PGP Key, contact UUNET South Africa * FreeBSD enthusiast * details and other http://www.uunet.co.za * http://www.freebsd.org * information at System Administration * http://office.os.org.za * kg+details@uunet.co.za To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Thu Jan 20 15: 7:16 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from awfulhak.org (dynamic-71.max4-du-ws.dialnetwork.pavilion.co.uk [212.74.9.199]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A15F71511E for ; Thu, 20 Jan 2000 15:07:12 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from brian@Awfulhak.org) Received: from hak.lan.Awfulhak.org (root@hak.lan.Awfulhak.org [172.16.0.12]) by awfulhak.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id VAA10640; Thu, 20 Jan 2000 21:00:02 GMT (envelope-from brian@lan.awfulhak.org) Received: from hak.lan.Awfulhak.org (localhost.lan.Awfulhak.org [127.0.0.1]) by hak.lan.Awfulhak.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id SAA00494; Thu, 20 Jan 2000 18:33:57 GMT (envelope-from brian@hak.lan.Awfulhak.org) Message-Id: <200001201833.SAA00494@hak.lan.Awfulhak.org> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.1.0 09/18/1999 To: Josef Karthauser Cc: Yoshinobu Inoue , freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG, brian@hak.lan.Awfulhak.org Subject: Re: filtering of IPv6 over IPv4? In-Reply-To: Message from Josef Karthauser of "Wed, 19 Jan 2000 17:35:31 GMT." <20000119173531.I62327@florence.pavilion.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Thu, 20 Jan 2000 18:33:57 +0000 From: Brian Somers Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > On Wed, Jan 19, 2000 at 09:20:45PM +0900, Yoshinobu Inoue wrote: > > > > But I am receiving several reports that some people failed to > > establish IPv6 over IPv4 connection via their ISP, and after > > several checking, it is found out that their ISP seems to be > > filtering those kind of packets. > > > > It just goes to show that all ISPs are not the same :) Funny, my ISP seems to be fine ! [for those that don't know, Joe's my ISP !] > Joe > -- > Josef Karthauser FreeBSD: Take the red pill and we'll show you just how > Technical Manager deep the rabbit hole goes. (http://www.uk.freebsd.org) > Pavilion Internet plc. [joe@pavilion.net, joe@freebsd.org, joe@tao.org.uk] -- Brian Don't _EVER_ lose your sense of humour ! To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Thu Jan 20 16:14:25 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mail0.bna.bellsouth.net (mail0.bna.bellsouth.net [205.152.150.12]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3FB8C14CCE for ; Thu, 20 Jan 2000 16:14:17 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jim@siteplus.com) Received: from siteplus.com (host-216-78-5-123.jan.bellsouth.net [216.78.5.123]) by mail0.bna.bellsouth.net (3.3.5alt/0.75.2) with ESMTP id TAA04445; Thu, 20 Jan 2000 19:13:23 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <3887A4C7.9AE016BB@siteplus.com> Date: Thu, 20 Jan 2000 19:14:00 -0500 From: Jim Weeks Organization: SitePlus Web Services X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.51 [en] (X11; I; Linux 2.2.5-15 i586) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Bill Vermillion Cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: curious kernel log messages References: <388735A7.3922CA76@siteplus.com> <002f01bf6371$1877c560$cc1232cc@trigger.net> <20000120132601.A3042@bilver.magicnet.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I think you hit the nail on the head. I have a problem with webalizer that I am still experimenting with. I have a few clients that are serving so many hits that I have started rotating logs four times a day and running webalizer right before the rotation. Occasionally I get a core dump. Thanks, Jim Bill Vermillion wrote: > On Thu, Jan 20, 2000 at 01:06:37PM -0500, Thus Spake bsdnews: > > > Yes I have, Just this morning I was reading the daily output logs, > > and I got a LOT of this: > > > file: table is full > > file: table is full > > file: table is full > > .... > > > Yet, all the filesystems have more then enough space left. If > > someone has an answer to this, please let me know. > > I've seen this and then found I had no problem later. I think it > was a cron job that ran out of space, and when it aborted it > cleaned up after itself. > > Bill > -- > Bill Vermillion bv @ wjv.com > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message -- Jim Weeks jim@siteplus.com http://siteplus.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Thu Jan 20 16:50:40 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from orange.kame.net (orange.kame.net [203.178.141.194]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D557515424 for ; Thu, 20 Jan 2000 16:50:23 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from shin@nd.net.fujitsu.co.jp) Received: from localhost (kame217.kame.net [203.178.141.217]) by orange.kame.net (8.9.1+3.1W/3.7W) with ESMTP id JAA20480; Fri, 21 Jan 2000 09:50:08 +0900 (JST) To: brian@Awfulhak.org Cc: joe@pavilion.net, freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: filtering of IPv6 over IPv4? In-Reply-To: <200001201833.SAA00494@hak.lan.Awfulhak.org> References: <200001201833.SAA00494@hak.lan.Awfulhak.org> X-Mailer: Mew version 1.94 on Emacs 20.4 / Mule 4.0 (HANANOEN) X-Prom-Mew: Prom-Mew 1.93.4 (procmail reader for Mew) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <20000121095044A.shin@nd.net.fujitsu.co.jp> Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2000 09:50:44 +0900 From: Yoshinobu Inoue X-Dispatcher: imput version 990905(IM130) Lines: 10 Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > > It just goes to show that all ISPs are not the same :) > > Funny, my ISP seems to be fine ! > > [for those that don't know, Joe's my ISP !] Oh, I understand it. Great!! Yoshinobu Inoue To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Thu Jan 20 21:43:13 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from yana.lemis.com (yana.lemis.com [192.109.197.140]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5DB0E153D9 for ; Thu, 20 Jan 2000 21:43:09 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from grog@mojave.worldwide.lemis.com) Received: from mojave.worldwide.lemis.com ([203.197.137.151]) by yana.lemis.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA06749; Fri, 21 Jan 2000 16:08:29 +1030 (CST) (envelope-from grog@mojave.worldwide.lemis.com) Received: (from grog@localhost) by mojave.worldwide.lemis.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id LAA00956; Fri, 21 Jan 2000 11:08:17 +0530 (IST) (envelope-from grog) Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2000 11:08:16 +0530 From: Greg Lehey To: Jim Weeks Cc: "freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG" Subject: Re: curious kernel log messages Message-ID: <20000121110816.P481@mojave.worldwide.lemis.com> Reply-To: Greg Lehey References: <388735A7.3922CA76@siteplus.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0i In-Reply-To: <388735A7.3922CA76@siteplus.com>; from jim@siteplus.com on Thu, Jan 20, 2000 at 11:19:51AM -0500 WWW-Home-Page: http://www.lemis.com/~grog X-PGP-Fingerprint: 6B 7B C3 8C 61 CD 54 AF 13 24 52 F8 6D A4 95 EF Organization: LEMIS, PO Box 460, Echunga SA 5153, Australia Phone: +61-8-8388-8286 Fax: +61-8-8388-8725 Mobile: +61-41-739-7062 Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Thursday, 20 January 2000 at 11:19:51 -0500, Jim Weeks wrote: > Hi all, > > Has anyone seen this one before. > > kernel log messages: >> 0 on /var: file system full > > Especially with this, > > Disk status: > Filesystem 1K-blocks Used Avail Capacity Mounted on > /dev/da0s2a 99183 25758 65491 28% / > /dev/da1s1e 8617423 1771423 6156607 22% /bak > /dev/da0s2f 7813726 1209641 5978987 17% /usr > /dev/da0s2e 99183 29651 61598 32% /var > procfs 4 4 0 100% /proc > > I am confused, Check your incoming mail spool. Some idiot may have sent a 70 MB mail message, and by default mail.local will copy it to /tmp, which is on the root file system on your machine. I've committed a "fix" which won't help much: it puts it on /var/tmp instead of /tmp, but your /var is too small to handle it. Greg -- Finger grog@lemis.com for PGP public key See complete headers for address and phone numbers To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Thu Jan 20 22: 5:42 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from ns.tcworks.net (ns.tcworks.net [216.61.218.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 19EDE1543F for ; Thu, 20 Jan 2000 22:05:39 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from ccook@tcworks.net) Received: from tcworks.net (xcess@stuck.sticky.org [216.61.218.6]) by ns.tcworks.net (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id AAA15474; Fri, 21 Jan 2000 00:02:59 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from ccook@tcworks.net) Message-ID: <3887F66F.497AF474@tcworks.net> Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2000 00:02:23 -0600 From: Chris Cook X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (X11; U; FreeBSD 3.3-RELEASE i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Greg Lehey Cc: Jim Weeks , "freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG" Subject: Re: curious kernel log messages References: <388735A7.3922CA76@siteplus.com> <20000121110816.P481@mojave.worldwide.lemis.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I think Greg is right, I've seen that same error message before which I tracked down to a 50MB email message that overflowed /tmp. == Chris Greg Lehey wrote: > > On Thursday, 20 January 2000 at 11:19:51 -0500, Jim Weeks wrote: > > Hi all, > > > > Has anyone seen this one before. > > > > kernel log messages: > >> 0 on /var: file system full > > > > Check your incoming mail spool. Some idiot may have sent a 70 MB mail > message, and by default mail.local will copy it to /tmp, which is on > the root file system on your machine. I've committed a "fix" which > won't help much: it puts it on /var/tmp instead of /tmp, but your /var > is too small to handle it. > > Greg > -- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Fri Jan 21 0: 8:27 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from yana.lemis.com (yana.lemis.com [192.109.197.140]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 662ED15138 for ; Fri, 21 Jan 2000 00:08:17 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from grog@mojave.worldwide.lemis.com) Received: from mojave.worldwide.lemis.com ([203.197.137.157]) by yana.lemis.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id SAA06948; Fri, 21 Jan 2000 18:37:58 +1030 (CST) (envelope-from grog@mojave.worldwide.lemis.com) Received: (from grog@localhost) by mojave.worldwide.lemis.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id MAA01654; Fri, 21 Jan 2000 12:52:12 +0530 (IST) (envelope-from grog) Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2000 12:52:12 +0530 From: Greg Lehey To: Chris Cook Cc: Jim Weeks , freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: curious kernel log messages Message-ID: <20000121125212.Q1123@mojave.worldwide.lemis.com> Reply-To: Greg Lehey References: <388735A7.3922CA76@siteplus.com> <20000121110816.P481@mojave.worldwide.lemis.com> <3887F66F.497AF474@tcworks.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0i In-Reply-To: <3887F66F.497AF474@tcworks.net>; from ccook@tcworks.net on Fri, Jan 21, 2000 at 12:02:23AM -0600 WWW-Home-Page: http://www.lemis.com/~grog X-PGP-Fingerprint: 6B 7B C3 8C 61 CD 54 AF 13 24 52 F8 6D A4 95 EF Organization: LEMIS, PO Box 460, Echunga SA 5153, Australia Phone: +61-8-8388-8286 Fax: +61-8-8388-8725 Mobile: +61-41-739-7062 Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Friday, 21 January 2000 at 0:02:23 -0600, Chris Cook wrote: > Greg Lehey wrote: >> >> On Thursday, 20 January 2000 at 11:19:51 -0500, Jim Weeks wrote: >>> Hi all, >>> >>> Has anyone seen this one before. >>> >>> kernel log messages: >>>> 0 on /var: file system full >>> >> >> Check your incoming mail spool. Some idiot may have sent a 70 MB mail >> message, and by default mail.local will copy it to /tmp, which is on >> the root file system on your machine. I've committed a "fix" which >> won't help much: it puts it on /var/tmp instead of /tmp, but your /var >> is too small to handle it. > > I think Greg is right, I've seen that same error message before which I > tracked down to a 50MB email message that overflowed /tmp. It's definitely one possibility, and it's interesting that it's usually reported on the ISP list, not the -questions list. It doesn't have to be the only one. Greg -- Finger grog@lemis.com for PGP public key See complete headers for address and phone numbers To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Fri Jan 21 3: 3:30 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from ns1.sunesi.net (ns1.sunesi.net [196.15.192.194]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F060615464 for ; Fri, 21 Jan 2000 03:03:25 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from nbm@sunesi.net) Received: from nbm by ns1.sunesi.net with local (Exim 3.03 #1) id 12BboF-000KN8-00; Fri, 21 Jan 2000 13:00:55 +0200 Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2000 13:00:55 +0200 From: Neil Blakey-Milner To: Khetan Gajjar Cc: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Josu=E9_Jos=E9_Souza_Jr=2E?= , freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: SMTP/SSL Message-ID: <20000121130055.D77623@mithrandr.moria.org> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0pre2i In-Reply-To: Organization: Rhodes University Computer Users' Society X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 3.3-RELEASE i386 X-URL: http://rucus.ru.ac.za/~nbm/ Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Fri 2000-01-21 (00:44), Khetan Gajjar wrote: > JJSJ> My question is if there is a way to configure sendmail to support SSL or > JJSJ> if stunnel can detect clients intention to use or not SSL and then act > JJSJ> just passing the message foward to sendmail (client not using SSL) or do > JJSJ> it's regular job adding SSL before passing it to sendmail. > > Using stunnel is relatively dangerous for forwarding SMTP > transactions. The problem is that stunnel will report to > sendmail that there is a connection from localhost (not a > biggie because you should be recording stunnel output), > and will therefore apply anti-spam/UCE/relay rules as if > the mail sender was on the machine (which usually means > allow everything/anywhere). Oh, before I forget, if you're using qmail, this isn't a problem - just use tcpserver (or tcp-env in inetd) as usual and it'll deal with getting the connection information for you. In some ways, I wish more software worked like this. Neil -- Neil Blakey-Milner nbm@rucus.ru.ac.za To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Fri Jan 21 5: 9:25 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from genus.am.wroc.pl (genus.am.wroc.pl [156.17.100.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8A65614C2B for ; Fri, 21 Jan 2000 05:09:20 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from reader@genus.am.wroc.pl) Received: from localhost (reader@localhost) by genus.am.wroc.pl (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id OAA15359 for ; Fri, 21 Jan 2000 14:09:10 +0100 (CET) Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2000 14:09:10 +0100 (CET) From: Czytelnik To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: subscribe Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org subscribe To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Fri Jan 21 5:20:34 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from genus.am.wroc.pl (genus.am.wroc.pl [156.17.100.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3B17F14C2B for ; Fri, 21 Jan 2000 05:19:55 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from reader@genus.am.wroc.pl) Received: from localhost (reader@localhost) by genus.am.wroc.pl (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id OAA15415 for ; Fri, 21 Jan 2000 14:19:51 +0100 (CET) Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2000 14:19:51 +0100 (CET) From: Czytelnik To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: Setting serial port speed Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi! I have TITAN-800 Card and it works up to 920 Kb/s. How can I set up speed more than 115 kb/s in freebsd 3.2? Maciej Baglaj To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Fri Jan 21 5:30:10 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from genus.am.wroc.pl (genus.am.wroc.pl [156.17.100.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9589E15175 for ; Fri, 21 Jan 2000 05:30:02 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from reader@genus.am.wroc.pl) Received: from localhost (reader@localhost) by genus.am.wroc.pl (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id OAA15528 for ; Fri, 21 Jan 2000 14:29:58 +0100 (CET) Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2000 14:29:58 +0100 (CET) From: Czytelnik To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: Setting serial port speed Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi! I have TITAN-800 Card and it works up to 920 Kb/s. How can I set up speed more than 115 kb/s in freebsd 3.2? Maciej Baglaj To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Fri Jan 21 6:42:50 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from dumbo.familyinet.net (dumbo.familyinet.net [206.105.51.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7806D154B9 for ; Fri, 21 Jan 2000 06:42:44 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from phill@freebsd.org) Received: from localhost (phill@localhost) by dumbo.familyinet.net (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id KAA25438; Fri, 21 Jan 2000 10:04:21 GMT X-Authentication-Warning: dumbo.familyinet.net: phill owned process doing -bs Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2000 10:04:21 +0000 (GMT) From: Phillip Salzman X-Sender: phill@dumbo.familyinet.net To: Chris Cook Cc: Greg Lehey , Jim Weeks , "freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG" Subject: Re: curious kernel log messages In-Reply-To: <3887F66F.497AF474@tcworks.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Or, you could be out of inodes. Try df -i I run cyrus on an extra email server, and it creates a seperate file for each message. It's happened there, maybe you have a simular problem. -- Phillip Salzman On Fri, 21 Jan 2000, Chris Cook wrote: > I think Greg is right, I've seen that same error message before which I > tracked down to a 50MB email message that overflowed /tmp. > > == > Chris > > > Greg Lehey wrote: > > > > On Thursday, 20 January 2000 at 11:19:51 -0500, Jim Weeks wrote: > > > Hi all, > > > > > > Has anyone seen this one before. > > > > > > kernel log messages: > > >> 0 on /var: file system full > > > > > > > Check your incoming mail spool. Some idiot may have sent a 70 MB mail > > message, and by default mail.local will copy it to /tmp, which is on > > the root file system on your machine. I've committed a "fix" which > > won't help much: it puts it on /var/tmp instead of /tmp, but your /var > > is too small to handle it. > > > > Greg > > -- > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Fri Jan 21 7: 1:44 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from argon.blackdawn.com (deepspace9.dcds.edu [207.231.151.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 183EB153F1 for ; Fri, 21 Jan 2000 07:01:38 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from will@blackdawn.com) Received: by argon.blackdawn.com (Postfix, from userid 1000) id BFC4C19C0; Tue, 18 Jan 2000 19:37:58 -0500 (EST) Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2000 19:37:58 -0500 From: Will Andrews To: Nathan Cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: [Fwd: Fwd: high load, nothing happening? (LONG)] Message-ID: <20000118193758.K457@argon.blackdawn.com> References: <3883B045.134D0E22@khmere.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0i In-Reply-To: <3883B045.134D0E22@khmere.com>; from nathan@khmere.com on Mon, Jan 17, 2000 at 04:13:57PM -0800 X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 4.0-CURRENT i386 Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Mon, Jan 17, 2000 at 04:13:57PM -0800, Nathan wrote: > I have a question.... > > I noticed that your box has a Mylex card in it ? is this right ? > > I thought that thier is no support for Mylex cards in FreeBSD..... or am > I wrong ? or is this an external raid card ? <2 1669-0> (00-01-18 19:36:36) [will@argon ~]% grep -i mylex /sys/i386/conf/LINT;uname -a # Mylex DAC960, AMI MegaRAID controllers. Only one entry is needed; the # code device mlx0 # Mylex DAC960 FreeBSD argon.blackdawn.com 4.0-CURRENT FreeBSD 4.0-CURRENT #0: Tue Jan 18 13:57:34 EST 2000 root@argon.blackdawn.com:/usr/src/sys/compile/KRYPTON i386 Indeed there seems to be support. --Will To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Fri Jan 21 8:24:24 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from athena.tyfon.net (athena.tyfon.net [212.37.11.70]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AEA5A1540A for ; Fri, 21 Jan 2000 08:24:19 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from dl@tyfon.net) Received: from junglenote.com (cl013s1.tyfon.com [213.212.29.17]) by athena.tyfon.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA70404 for ; Fri, 21 Jan 2000 17:24:16 +0100 (CET) Received: from enigmatic by junglenote.com with SMTP (MDaemon.v2.84.R) for ; Fri, 21 Jan 2000 17:31:10 +0100 Received: by localhost with Microsoft MAPI; Fri, 21 Jan 2000 17:31:09 +0100 Message-ID: <01BF6435.4E554A80.dl@tyfon.net> From: Dan Larsson To: "[FreeBSD-ISP-List] (E-postl)" , "[FreeBSD-Questions-List] (E-postl)" Subject: sendmail-8.9.10 Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2000 17:31:08 +0100 Organization: Tyfon Internet Services [ http://tyfon.net ] X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet-e-post/MAPI - 8.0.0.4211 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-MDaemon-Deliver-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org X-Return-Path: dl@tyfon.net Reply-To: dl@tyfon.net Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org When will it be released? Any date set yet? Regards ------------ Dan Larsson To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Fri Jan 21 9: 6: 5 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from extremis.demon.co.uk (extremis.demon.co.uk [194.222.242.30]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id B1EF7154CC for ; Fri, 21 Jan 2000 09:06:00 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gjvc@extremis.demon.co.uk) Received: (qmail 592 invoked by uid 1010); 21 Jan 2000 16:46:49 -0000 Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2000 16:46:49 +0000 From: George Cox To: Dan Larsson Cc: "[FreeBSD-ISP-List] (E-postl)" , "[FreeBSD-Questions-List] (E-postl)" Subject: Re: sendmail-8.9.10 Message-ID: <20000121164649.A439@extremis.demon.co.uk> References: <01BF6435.4E554A80.dl@tyfon.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii User-Agent: Mutt/1.1.1i In-Reply-To: <01BF6435.4E554A80.dl@tyfon.net>; from dl@tyfon.net on Fri, Jan 21, 2000 at 05:31:08PM +0100 X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 4.0-CURRENT (i386) Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On 21/01 17:31, Dan Larsson wrote: > When will it be released? Any date set yet? I asked the folks at http://www.sendmail.{com,net,org} about the release date for FreeBSD-4.0, and they just looked at me blankly. Dunno why. -- [gjvc] "Expectations should not be lowered simply because a product is free." -- Russ Cooper, NTBugTraq To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Fri Jan 21 10:59:44 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from paladincorp.com.au (paladincorp.com.au [203.101.1.142]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 77879151DD for ; Fri, 21 Jan 2000 10:59:38 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from torqumada@paladincorp.com.au) Received: (qmail 6087 invoked from network); 21 Jan 2000 18:59:30 -0000 Received: from wagner.paladincorp.com.au (192.168.0.6) by beethoven.paladincorp.com.au with SMTP; 21 Jan 2000 18:59:30 -0000 Date: Sat, 22 Jan 2000 05:59:27 +1100 (EST) From: Norman Widders Cc: "[FreeBSD-ISP-List] (E-postl)" , "[FreeBSD-Questions-List] (E-postl)" Subject: Re: sendmail-8.9.10 In-Reply-To: <20000121164649.A439@extremis.demon.co.uk> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Fri, 21 Jan 2000, George Cox wrote: I think you mean sendmail 8.10.x which is currently available in beta and works well, i've been using it for months.. /Torqumada > On 21/01 17:31, Dan Larsson wrote: > > > When will it be released? Any date set yet? > > I asked the folks at http://www.sendmail.{com,net,org} about the release > date for FreeBSD-4.0, and they just looked at me blankly. Dunno why. > > -- > [gjvc] "Expectations should not be lowered > simply because a product is free." > -- Russ Cooper, NTBugTraq > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message > Norman Widders - Paladin Corporation Pty Ltd. ACN: 081-191-611 The lyf so short, the craft so long to lerne - Chaucer NIC: NW83-AU ICQ: 61730896 FreeBSD, OpenBSD, Solaris, SCO, Debian Software Engineering: c/c++/perl/sql/eiffel/pascal/haskell/php Ph: +612 9835-4782 Fax: +612 9864-0487 Mobile: 0416-207-857 Powered by Symetric Multiple Processors running on FreeBSD 3.4/SMP To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Sat Jan 22 2:32:56 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from colossus.invictanet.co.uk (colossus.invictanet.co.uk [62.232.18.118]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3D2D314C92 for ; Sat, 22 Jan 2000 02:32:52 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from martynr@invictanet.co.uk) Received: from harry (host212-140-121-165.host.btclick.com [212.140.121.165]) by colossus.invictanet.co.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id KAA18903 for ; Sat, 22 Jan 2000 10:33:01 GMT Reply-To: From: "Martyn Routley" To: "Freebsd-ISP" Subject: RE: Frontpage Extensions (again?) Date: Sat, 22 Jan 2000 10:32:40 -0000 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) In-Reply-To: X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Importance: Normal Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I have tried this but am not getting far: Any ideas? Martyn make >> Checksum OK for apache_1.3.9.tar.gz. >> Checksum OK for mod_ssl-2.4.8-1.3.9.tar.gz. >> Checksum OK for php-3.0.12.tar.gz. >> Checksum OK for fp40.bsdi.tar.Z. >> Checksum OK for powerlogo.gif. ===> Building for apache_fp+php+mod_ssl-1.3.9+3.0.12+2.4.8 ===> src make: don't know how to make all. Stop *** Error code 2 Stop. *** Error code 1 Stop. *** Error code 1 Stop. *** Error code 1 Stop. *** Error code 1 Stop. ----------------------------------------------------- InvictaNet - The Internet in Plain English, Guaranteed http://www.invictanet.co.uk mailto:info@invictanet.co.uk phone: 0870 7402252 fax: +44 (0)1233 334001 ------------------------------------------------------ > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG > [mailto:owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG]On Behalf Of Gene Harris > Sent: Tuesday, January 18, 2000 3:20 AM > To: J.C. Frazier > Cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG > Subject: Re: Frontpage Extensions (again?) > > > I just downloaded and tried this out. Everything seemed to > proceed normally. I did a make certifcate and then > installed. The whole process worked very nicely. > > Thanks for supplying us with this port. > > *==============================================* > *Gene Harris http://www.tetronsoftware.com* > *FreeBSD Novice * > *All ORBS.org SMTP connections are denied! * > *==============================================* > > On Mon, 17 Jan 2000, J.C. Frazier wrote: > > > Troy: > > > > I have submitted a port PR and you are welcome to try it. It is very secure > > and tested and has php3, mySQL support, the frontpage 2000 extensions via the > > patch, and mod_ssl. You can find it on the PR lists or at > > ftp://ftp.csocs.com/pub/FreeBSD/ports/apache13-php3-fp-modssl.tar.gz Hope > > this helps. Anyone on freebsd-isp is welcome to try it out or test it...it's > > proven to be very stable. FreeBSD-Ports is trying to decide now on the future > > of the Apache ports, you may not get another chance to get this > > Apache13+kitchen_sink. :) > > > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Sat Jan 22 5: 7:44 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from colossus.invictanet.co.uk (colossus.invictanet.co.uk [62.232.18.118]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0CF4314D78 for ; Sat, 22 Jan 2000 05:07:40 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from martynr@invictanet.co.uk) Received: from harry (host212-140-117-230.host.btclick.com [212.140.117.230]) by colossus.invictanet.co.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id NAA19688; Sat, 22 Jan 2000 13:07:37 GMT Reply-To: From: "Martyn Routley" To: "Jim Weeks" Cc: "Freebsd-ISP" Subject: RE: Frontpage Extensions (again?) Date: Sat, 22 Jan 2000 13:07:07 -0000 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <3889896D.7B5C81E5@siteplus.com> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I have tried deleting the tree and starting again - no difference. Now I am really lost..... Martyn ----------------------------------------------------- InvictaNet - The Internet in Plain English, Guaranteed http://www.invictanet.co.uk mailto:info@invictanet.co.uk phone: 0870 7402252 fax: +44 (0)1233 334001 ------------------------------------------------------ > -----Original Message----- > From: jim@mail2.bna.bellsouth.net [mailto:jim@mail2.bna.bellsouth.net]On > Behalf Of Jim Weeks > Sent: Saturday, January 22, 2000 10:42 AM > To: martynr@invictanet.co.uk > Subject: Re: Frontpage Extensions (again?) > > > Has make failed on this port previously over something you have now fixed? > > If so the make file has been altered by the script and you will need to start again > fresh. If you still have the tarball you could delete this directory untar again and > start over. > > Hope this helps, > > Jim > > > Martyn Routley wrote: > > > I have tried this but am not getting far: > > Any ideas? > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Sat Jan 22 5:12:58 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from proxy.pomonet.bg (proxy.pomonet.bg [212.56.4.83]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id AECCA14C58 for ; Sat, 22 Jan 2000 05:12:51 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gogo@proxy.pomonet.bg) Received: (qmail 73491 invoked by uid 100); 22 Jan 2000 13:05:44 -0000 Received: from localhost (sendmail-bs@127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 22 Jan 2000 13:05:44 -0000 Date: Sat, 22 Jan 2000 15:05:44 +0200 (EET) From: Misli s glavata si To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: ppp+qmail problem ? Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Has anyone had problems running user-ppp+qmail ? George Kamov gogo@mbox.pomonet.bg www.pomonet.bg To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Sat Jan 22 6:49:51 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from cliff.i-plus.net (cliff.i-plus.net [209.100.20.42]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 74E4014F76 for ; Sat, 22 Jan 2000 06:49:46 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from troy@picus.com) Received: from abyss (abyss.dashit.net [209.100.22.250]) by cliff.i-plus.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id JAA71302; Sat, 22 Jan 2000 09:49:40 -0500 (EST) From: "Troy Settle" To: Cc: "Freebsd-ISP" Subject: RE: Frontpage Extensions (again?) Date: Sat, 22 Jan 2000 09:46:33 -0500 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Martyn, You didn't paste the output that describes _which_ src/ directory it was in. This is a problem. I sucessfully built and installed this port, and it worked fine. This was on 3.4-STABLE. The only thing I could suggest, is that you make sure your ports-base is up to date. As for this port in general... the version of PHP does not support imap, or gd w/png. Patching for imap worked, but substituting 3.0.14 for gd/png support caused the port to blow up. Once installed (without modifications), frontpage refuses to work. I've gone though tons of documentation, and even compared the config to 2 other working boxes. No luck. Since this was being installed on a personal box, I removed that port, and installed the apache13-ph3p and samba ports instead. Now, I just map a network drive, yank out Ultra Edit, and I'll be happy with it. -Troy > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG > [mailto:owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG]On Behalf Of Martyn Routley > Sent: Saturday, January 22, 2000 08:07 > To: Jim Weeks > Cc: Freebsd-ISP > Subject: RE: Frontpage Extensions (again?) > > > I have tried deleting the tree and starting again - no > difference. Now I am really lost..... > > Martyn > ----------------------------------------------------- > InvictaNet - The Internet in Plain English, Guaranteed > http://www.invictanet.co.uk > mailto:info@invictanet.co.uk > phone: 0870 7402252 > fax: +44 (0)1233 334001 > ------------------------------------------------------ > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: jim@mail2.bna.bellsouth.net [mailto:jim@mail2.bna.bellsouth.net]On > > Behalf Of Jim Weeks > > Sent: Saturday, January 22, 2000 10:42 AM > > To: martynr@invictanet.co.uk > > Subject: Re: Frontpage Extensions (again?) > > > > > > Has make failed on this port previously over something you have > now fixed? > > > > If so the make file has been altered by the script and you will > need to start again > > fresh. If you still have the tarball you could delete this > directory untar again and > > start over. > > > > Hope this helps, > > > > Jim > > > > > > Martyn Routley wrote: > > > > > I have tried this but am not getting far: > > > Any ideas? > > > > > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Sat Jan 22 15:10: 0 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mars.aspenworks.net (aspenworks.com [192.94.236.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 30CFE14CE4 for ; Sat, 22 Jan 2000 15:09:57 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from alex@aspenworks.com) Received: from aspenworks.com (s44-g-lv4.sopris.net [208.47.129.199]) by mars.aspenworks.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA34866; Sat, 22 Jan 2000 16:09:37 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from alex@aspenworks.com) Message-ID: <388A3897.694BFA4@aspenworks.com> Date: Sat, 22 Jan 2000 16:09:11 -0700 From: Alex Huppenthal Reply-To: alex@aspenworks.com Organization: Aspenworks X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: bsdnews Cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Frontpage Extensions References: <388735A7.3922CA76@siteplus.com> <002f01bf6371$1877c560$cc1232cc@trigger.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I haven't given this any thought, but I toss it out for the list's consideration. Is it possible to implement 'webbot self' crud that we deal with in Frontpage extensions in PHP? We find more and more novice Web designers demanding Frontpage extensions. The Apache/Frontpage/PHP/IMP/Imap/GD build is probably never going to work easily.. or be easy to maintain with Frontpage extensions. I'd like to offer these novice FP Web designers a clean, portable option to Frontpage extensions. Any open source project working to emulate FP extensions, perhaps in Core PHP? I'm not an FP expert... anyone have an opinion ? Suggestion? -Alex To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message