From owner-freebsd-alpha Sun Dec 23 0: 0:27 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from srv1.cosmo-project.de (srv1.cosmo-project.de [213.83.6.106]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 71BD937B405 for ; Sun, 23 Dec 2001 00:00:12 -0800 (PST) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by srv1.cosmo-project.de (8.11.6/8.11.6) with UUCP id fBN807m34430; Sun, 23 Dec 2001 09:00:07 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from ticso@cicely9.cicely.de) Received: from mail.cicely.de (cicely20.cicely.de [10.1.1.22]) by cicely5.cicely.de (8.12.1/8.12.1) with ESMTP id fBN80ntx005732; Sun, 23 Dec 2001 09:00:50 +0100 (CET)?g (envelope-from ticso@cicely9.cicely.de) Received: from cicely9.cicely.de (cicely9.cicely.de [10.1.7.11]) by mail.cicely.de (8.11.0/8.11.0) with ESMTP id fBN80nW25687; Sun, 23 Dec 2001 09:00:49 +0100 (CET) Received: (from ticso@localhost) by cicely9.cicely.de (8.11.6/8.11.6) id fBN80lq62379; Sun, 23 Dec 2001 09:00:47 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from ticso) Date: Sun, 23 Dec 2001 09:00:46 +0100 From: Bernd Walter To: Matthew Jacob Cc: Wilko Bulte , freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: FreeBSD 4.5 alpha buyglet Message-ID: <20011223080046.GB61241@cicely9.cicely.de> References: <20011223032201.GA61241@cicely9.cicely.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.24i X-Operating-System: FreeBSD cicely9.cicely.de 5.0-CURRENT alpha Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Sat, Dec 22, 2001 at 10:37:55PM -0800, Matthew Jacob wrote: > > > On Sun, 23 Dec 2001, Bernd Walter wrote: > > > On Sat, Dec 22, 2001 at 05:12:32PM -0800, Matthew Jacob wrote: > > > > > > >Yes, see Message-ID: <20011221175252.A25617@freebie.xs4all.nl> > > > >on -alpha. > > > > > > Ooops- so right you are. Anyway, I looked at this just a bit- seems a compiler > > > error to me- it shouldn't be generating ldq's for those tags because they > > > couldn't possibly be at 8 byte offsets given the structures involved. Oh well. > > > > The two variables it fails on are defined as beeing long but only 32 bit > > aligned. I'm more about beleaving the sysctl tranfer misaligns them. But I > > have currently no system where I see this problem so I can't be shure. The > > sysctl receive buffer is malloc'ed so it should be 64 bit aligned. > > Hmm? I used gdb to find the misaligned reference to be, e.g.: > > ***> if (ifm->ifm_data.ifi_metric) > printf(" metric %ld", ifm->ifm_data.ifi_metric); > ***> if (ifm->ifm_data.ifi_mtu) > printf(" mtu %ld", ifm->ifm_data.ifi_mtu); > putchar('\n'); > > struct if_msghdr { > u_short ifm_msglen; /* to skip over non-understood messages */ > u_char ifm_version; /* future binary compatability */ > u_char ifm_type; /* message type */ > int ifm_addrs; /* like rtm_addrs */ > int ifm_flags; /* value of if_flags */ > u_short ifm_index; /* index for associated ifp */ > offset: 14 > struct if_data ifm_data;/* statistics and other data about if */ > }; > > > ... > > > struct if_data { > /* generic interface information */ > u_char ifi_type; /* ethernet, tokenring, etc */ > u_char ifi_physical; /* e.g., AUI, Thinnet, 10base-T, etc > */ > u_char ifi_addrlen; /* media address length */ > u_char ifi_hdrlen; /* media header length */ > u_char ifi_recvquota; /* polling quota for receive intrs */ > u_char ifi_xmitquota; /* polling quota for xmit intrs */ > > offset: 6 > > u_long ifi_mtu; /* maximum transmission unit */ ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ > u_long ifi_metric; /* routing metric (external only) */ ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ > u_long ifi_baudrate; /* linespeed */ > > > So, if gdb was right and dereferencing ifi_mtu or ifi_metric is generating > a ldq, then the compiler seems to be broken. What else would you use for loading a 64 bit value? If it starts with the second or later interface I would asume it's because several structs are concatenated in the sysctl output and read as one. If one of them is not n*8 bytes long you get an alignment offset. But as I don't have more debug output than posted on the list I can only guess. -- B.Walter COSMO-Project http://www.cosmo-project.de ticso@cicely.de Usergroup info@cosmo-project.de To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Sun Dec 23 0:19:36 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from beppo.feral.com (beppo.feral.com [192.67.166.79]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 58E6937B416 for ; Sun, 23 Dec 2001 00:19:34 -0800 (PST) Received: from mailhost.feral.com (mjacob@mailhost.feral.com [192.67.166.1]) by beppo.feral.com (8.11.3/8.11.3) with ESMTP id fBN8JOY02597; Sun, 23 Dec 2001 00:19:24 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mjacob@feral.com) Date: Sun, 23 Dec 2001 00:19:24 -0800 (PST) From: Matthew Jacob X-Sender: mjacob@beppo Reply-To: mjacob@feral.com To: Bernd Walter Cc: Wilko Bulte , freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: FreeBSD 4.5 alpha buyglet In-Reply-To: <20011223080046.GB61241@cicely9.cicely.de> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > > What else would you use for loading a 64 bit value? Not if it's not aligned, and because the structure is fully enumerated, it should be known to be unaligned. > > If it starts with the second or later interface I would asume it's because > several structs are concatenated in the sysctl output and read as one. If > one of them is not n*8 bytes long you get an alignment offset. But as I > don't have more debug output than posted on the list I can only guess. The structures are all listed in if.h. Well- I must be wrong. I'm sure somebody would have fixed soemthing this egregious. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Sun Dec 23 2: 3: 8 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from postino.fi.infn.it (postino.fi.infn.it [192.84.145.9]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E788637B417 for ; Sun, 23 Dec 2001 02:03:04 -0800 (PST) Received: from dijkstra.fi.infn.it (dijkstra.fi.infn.it [192.84.145.11]) by postino.fi.infn.it (8.12.1/8.12.1) with ESMTP id fBNB5rsx030309 for ; Sun, 23 Dec 2001 11:05:54 GMT From: Riccardo.Veraldi@fi.infn.it Received: by dijkstra.fi.infn.it (Postfix, from userid 1001) id BB54F1E02; Sun, 23 Dec 2001 11:00:58 +0100 (CET) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by dijkstra.fi.infn.it (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7E71718601 for ; Sun, 23 Dec 2001 11:00:58 +0100 (CET) Date: Sun, 23 Dec 2001 11:00:57 +0100 (CET) X-X-Sender: To: Subject: xdm not working Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Filter-Version: 1.7 (postino.fi.infn.it) Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I have XFree86-4.1.0_10 xdm seems not working. OF course XF86Config is correct (it works with startx). when I start xdm it exists after 10 seconds. No errors is reported on stderr or on /var/log/messagse so I do not know what is the problem. anyone had probles with xdm?? thanks Rick To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Sun Dec 23 2:19:58 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from srv1.cosmo-project.de (srv1.cosmo-project.de [213.83.6.106]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 93D7F37B419 for ; Sun, 23 Dec 2001 02:19:54 -0800 (PST) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by srv1.cosmo-project.de (8.11.6/8.11.6) with UUCP id fBNAJmW36861; Sun, 23 Dec 2001 11:19:49 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from ticso@cicely9.cicely.de) Received: from mail.cicely.de (cicely20.cicely.de [10.1.1.22]) by cicely5.cicely.de (8.12.1/8.12.1) with ESMTP id fBNAKDtx006446; Sun, 23 Dec 2001 11:20:14 +0100 (CET)?g (envelope-from ticso@cicely9.cicely.de) Received: from cicely9.cicely.de (cicely9.cicely.de [10.1.7.11]) by mail.cicely.de (8.11.0/8.11.0) with ESMTP id fBNAKCW25764; Sun, 23 Dec 2001 11:20:12 +0100 (CET) Received: (from ticso@localhost) by cicely9.cicely.de (8.11.6/8.11.6) id fBNAKBs62668; Sun, 23 Dec 2001 11:20:11 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from ticso) Date: Sun, 23 Dec 2001 11:20:11 +0100 From: Bernd Walter To: Matthew Jacob Cc: Wilko Bulte , freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: FreeBSD 4.5 alpha buyglet Message-ID: <20011223102010.GC61241@cicely9.cicely.de> References: <20011223080046.GB61241@cicely9.cicely.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.24i X-Operating-System: FreeBSD cicely9.cicely.de 5.0-CURRENT alpha Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Sun, Dec 23, 2001 at 12:19:24AM -0800, Matthew Jacob wrote: > > > > What else would you use for loading a 64 bit value? > > > Not if it's not aligned, and because the structure is fully enumerated, it > should be known to be unaligned. Sorry - but I'm completely missing the reason why it should be unaligned. A 64 bit value starts at a n*8 address relative from the structure beginning unless explizit requested otherwise. > > If it starts with the second or later interface I would asume it's because > > several structs are concatenated in the sysctl output and read as one. If > > one of them is not n*8 bytes long you get an alignment offset. But as I > > don't have more debug output than posted on the list I can only guess. > > The structures are all listed in if.h. > > Well- I must be wrong. I'm sure somebody would have fixed soemthing this > egregious. If you look at what Wilko Bulke posted you will notice that the status function gets a 4*n aligned ifm. The first ifm is located at offset 0 from the malloced buf so it should be propper aligned. Sysctl transfers 2 structures for each interface. If the second structure is not n*8 byte in length the next ifm is wrong aligned. This happens in sbin/ifconfig/ifconfig.c and sys/net/rtsock.c -- B.Walter COSMO-Project http://www.cosmo-project.de ticso@cicely.de Usergroup info@cosmo-project.de To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Sun Dec 23 2:49:30 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from anchor-post-30.mail.demon.net (anchor-post-30.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.88]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 690D437B691 for ; Sun, 23 Dec 2001 02:48:29 -0800 (PST) Received: from [62.49.251.130] (helo=herring.nlsystems.com) by anchor-post-30.mail.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 2.12 #1) id 16I6BA-000HWU-0U; Sun, 23 Dec 2001 10:48:28 +0000 Received: from salmon.nlsystems.com (salmon [10.0.0.3]) by herring.nlsystems.com (8.11.2/8.11.2) with ESMTP id fBNAlD923803; Sun, 23 Dec 2001 10:47:13 GMT (envelope-from dfr@nlsystems.com) Date: Sun, 23 Dec 2001 10:46:40 +0000 (GMT) From: Doug Rabson To: Wilko Bulte Cc: Subject: Re: FW: Re: bah: new bug, unaligned accesses in ifconfig on -stable In-Reply-To: <20011221175252.A25617@freebie.xs4all.nl> Message-ID: <20011223103646.H457-100000@salmon.nlsystems.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Fri, 21 Dec 2001, Wilko Bulte wrote: > Hi, > > I just verified it on my DS10 with 4.5-PRERELEASE and the > problem is exactly what Rich describes below: > > ds10#gdb ./ifconfig ifconfig.core > GNU gdb 4.18 > Copyright 1998 Free Software Foundation, Inc. > GDB is free software, covered by the GNU General Public License, and you are > welcome to change it and/or distribute copies of it under certain > conditions. > Type "show copying" to see the conditions. > There is absolutely no warranty for GDB. Type "show warranty" for details. > This GDB was configured as "alpha-unknown-freebsd"... > Core was generated by `ifconfig'. > Program terminated with signal 10, Bus error. > Reading symbols from /usr/lib/libipx.so.2...done. > Reading symbols from /usr/lib/libc.so.4...done. > Reading symbols from /usr/libexec/ld-elf.so.1...done. > #0 0x1200039dc in status (afp=0x120009da8, addrcount=0, > sdl=0x74656e62772e30, > ifm=0x12002011c, ifam=0x0) at ifconfig.c:1152 > 1152 if (ifm->ifm_data.ifi_metric) > (gdb) > > I don't quite understand why it happens this way Its a problem with the way that the interface list is reported to the user via sysctl. The interface structures are not properly aligned by the code in sysctl_iflist(), I think. -- Doug Rabson Mail: dfr@nlsystems.com Phone: +44 20 8348 6160 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Sun Dec 23 2:51:29 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from tele-post-20.mail.demon.net (tele-post-20.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.20]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 08AE037B405 for ; Sun, 23 Dec 2001 02:51:27 -0800 (PST) Received: from [62.49.251.130] (helo=herring.nlsystems.com) by tele-post-20.mail.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 2.12 #2) id 16I6E1-000KGS-0K; Sun, 23 Dec 2001 10:51:25 +0000 Received: from salmon.nlsystems.com (salmon [10.0.0.3]) by herring.nlsystems.com (8.11.2/8.11.2) with ESMTP id fBNAoA923817; Sun, 23 Dec 2001 10:50:10 GMT (envelope-from dfr@nlsystems.com) Date: Sun, 23 Dec 2001 10:49:37 +0000 (GMT) From: Doug Rabson To: Daniel Eischen Cc: Bernd Walter , Dan Eischen , Andrew Gallatin , Subject: Re: Munging jmp_bufs on alpha In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20011223104757.B457-100000@salmon.nlsystems.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Fri, 21 Dec 2001, Daniel Eischen wrote: > What is T12 suppose to contain in a normal function call? Is > it always the return address? Is that dependent on our compiler? T12 should be set to the address of the called function. Prologue code in the called function uses this assumption to initialise GP to the correct value for the module containing it. RA will be set to the return address by the call instruction itself. -- Doug Rabson Mail: dfr@nlsystems.com Phone: +44 20 8348 6160 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Sun Dec 23 5:30:33 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from mail.inka.de (quechua.inka.de [212.227.14.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5211537B41A for ; Sun, 23 Dec 2001 05:30:27 -0800 (PST) Received: from kemoauc.mips.inka.de (uucp@) by mail.inka.de with local-bsmtp id 16I8hu-0002fY-01; Sun, 23 Dec 2001 14:30:26 +0100 Received: (from mailnull@localhost) by kemoauc.mips.inka.de (8.11.6/8.11.6) id fBNDBE518040 for freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org; Sun, 23 Dec 2001 14:11:14 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from mailnull) From: naddy@mips.inka.de (Christian Weisgerber) Subject: Re: xdm not working Date: Sun, 23 Dec 2001 13:11:13 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: References: Originator: naddy@mips.inka.de (Christian Weisgerber) To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org wrote: > I have XFree86-4.1.0_10 > > xdm seems not working. > when I start xdm it exists after 10 seconds. How have you configured xdm and what do you expect it to do? > No errors is reported on stderr or on /var/log/messagse /var/log/xdm-errors, unless you have changed this. > anyone had problems with xdm?? You can't manage other X displays with it. As soon as the remote display connects, xdm dies. This is a long standing bug on FreeBSD/alpha, probably for years by now. -- Christian "naddy" Weisgerber naddy@mips.inka.de To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Sun Dec 23 10: 0: 5 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from pcnet1.pcnet.com (pcnet1.pcnet.com [204.213.232.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E160B37B419 for ; Sun, 23 Dec 2001 09:59:58 -0800 (PST) Received: from vigrid.com (pm3-pt8.pcnet.net [206.105.29.82]) by pcnet1.pcnet.com (8.12.1/8.12.1) with ESMTP id fBNHwmFe029575; Sun, 23 Dec 2001 12:58:49 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <3C261DE3.3EEFCEBB@vigrid.com> Date: Sun, 23 Dec 2001 13:09:39 -0500 From: Dan Eischen X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.74 [en] (X11; U; FreeBSD 5.0-CURRENT i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Doug Rabson Cc: Bernd Walter , Andrew Gallatin , freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Munging jmp_bufs on alpha References: <20011223104757.B457-100000@salmon.nlsystems.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Doug Rabson wrote: > > On Fri, 21 Dec 2001, Daniel Eischen wrote: > > > What is T12 suppose to contain in a normal function call? Is > > it always the return address? Is that dependent on our compiler? > > T12 should be set to the address of the called function. Prologue code in > the called function uses this assumption to initialise GP to the correct > value for the module containing it. RA will be set to the return address > by the call instruction itself. OK, thanks. I think I understand this a little better. I need to revisit my {get,set,make,swap}context patches, because libc_r should really be using makecontext instead of having its own MD macros to munge a jmp_buf. The alpha is a little tricky though because a trapframe and sigframe are different formats, and the *context routines would probably need to recognize the difference. I think the kernel needs to get involved in order to tag them appropriately. -- Dan Eischen To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Sun Dec 23 10:12: 2 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from anchor-post-30.mail.demon.net (anchor-post-30.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.88]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 89CEB37B405 for ; Sun, 23 Dec 2001 10:11:58 -0800 (PST) Received: from [62.49.251.130] (helo=herring.nlsystems.com) by anchor-post-30.mail.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 2.12 #1) id 16ID6L-0002vx-0U; Sun, 23 Dec 2001 18:11:57 +0000 Received: from salmon.nlsystems.com (salmon [10.0.0.3]) by herring.nlsystems.com (8.11.2/8.11.2) with ESMTP id fBNIAf933939; Sun, 23 Dec 2001 18:10:42 GMT (envelope-from dfr@nlsystems.com) Date: Sun, 23 Dec 2001 18:10:08 +0000 (GMT) From: Doug Rabson To: Dan Eischen Cc: Bernd Walter , Andrew Gallatin , Subject: Re: Munging jmp_bufs on alpha In-Reply-To: <3C261DE3.3EEFCEBB@vigrid.com> Message-ID: <20011223180855.A10031-100000@salmon.nlsystems.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Sun, 23 Dec 2001, Dan Eischen wrote: > Doug Rabson wrote: > > > > On Fri, 21 Dec 2001, Daniel Eischen wrote: > > > > > What is T12 suppose to contain in a normal function call? Is > > > it always the return address? Is that dependent on our compiler? > > > > T12 should be set to the address of the called function. Prologue code in > > the called function uses this assumption to initialise GP to the correct > > value for the module containing it. RA will be set to the return address > > by the call instruction itself. > > OK, thanks. I think I understand this a little better. > > I need to revisit my {get,set,make,swap}context patches, because > libc_r should really be using makecontext instead of having its > own MD macros to munge a jmp_buf. The alpha is a little tricky > though because a trapframe and sigframe are different formats, > and the *context routines would probably need to recognize the > difference. I think the kernel needs to get involved in order > to tag them appropriately. I would love to see libc_r using getcontext, setcontext etc. because the ia64 setjmp/longjmp are optimised to assume that we are simply unwinding an existing stack, i.e. they can't be used for context switching. -- Doug Rabson Mail: dfr@nlsystems.com Phone: +44 20 8348 6160 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Sun Dec 23 13:41:51 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from postino.fi.infn.it (postino.fi.infn.it [192.84.145.9]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 48D2137B41C for ; Sun, 23 Dec 2001 13:41:47 -0800 (PST) Received: from dijkstra.fi.infn.it (dijkstra.fi.infn.it [192.84.145.11]) by postino.fi.infn.it (8.12.1/8.12.1) with ESMTP id fBNMihsx032844 for ; Sun, 23 Dec 2001 22:44:44 GMT From: Riccardo.Veraldi@fi.infn.it Received: by dijkstra.fi.infn.it (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 788761E02; Sun, 23 Dec 2001 22:39:39 +0100 (CET) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by dijkstra.fi.infn.it (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4D57E18601 for ; Sun, 23 Dec 2001 22:39:39 +0100 (CET) Date: Sun, 23 Dec 2001 22:39:38 +0100 (CET) X-X-Sender: To: Subject: libfpx building problem Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Filter-Version: 1.7 (postino.fi.infn.it) Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hello, libfpx is needed by ImageMagik. IT seems like failing to compile on alpha. I rememver i could build it on i386 without any problem, same libfpx version whic his the latest (1.2.0 I believe). anyone has some hints? thanks Rick b_string.cpp: In method `void Chaine::PlaceParametre(const Chaine &, short int = 0)': b_string.cpp:347: invalid operands `const char *' and `int8 *' to binary `operator -' b_string.cpp:352: passing `int8 *' as argument 2 of `strcat(char *, const char *)' changes signedness *** Error code 1 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Sun Dec 23 14: 0:25 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from srv1.cosmo-project.de (srv1.cosmo-project.de [213.83.6.106]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BD70C37B416 for ; Sun, 23 Dec 2001 14:00:21 -0800 (PST) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by srv1.cosmo-project.de (8.11.6/8.11.6) with UUCP id fBNLxJ349088; Sun, 23 Dec 2001 22:59:19 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from ticso@cicely9.cicely.de) Received: from mail.cicely.de (cicely20.cicely.de [10.1.1.22]) by cicely5.cicely.de (8.12.1/8.12.1) with ESMTP id fBNLxstx012303; Sun, 23 Dec 2001 22:59:54 +0100 (CET)?g (envelope-from ticso@cicely9.cicely.de) Received: from cicely9.cicely.de (cicely9.cicely.de [10.1.7.11]) by mail.cicely.de (8.11.0/8.11.0) with ESMTP id fBNLxrW27199; Sun, 23 Dec 2001 22:59:53 +0100 (CET) Received: (from ticso@localhost) by cicely9.cicely.de (8.11.6/8.11.6) id fBNLxcY64200; Sun, 23 Dec 2001 22:59:38 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from ticso) Date: Sun, 23 Dec 2001 22:59:37 +0100 From: Bernd Walter To: Doug Rabson Cc: Dan Eischen , Andrew Gallatin , freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Munging jmp_bufs on alpha Message-ID: <20011223215937.GA63024@cicely9.cicely.de> References: <3C261DE3.3EEFCEBB@vigrid.com> <20011223180855.A10031-100000@salmon.nlsystems.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20011223180855.A10031-100000@salmon.nlsystems.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.24i X-Operating-System: FreeBSD cicely9.cicely.de 5.0-CURRENT alpha Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Sun, Dec 23, 2001 at 06:10:08PM +0000, Doug Rabson wrote: > On Sun, 23 Dec 2001, Dan Eischen wrote: > > > Doug Rabson wrote: > > > > > > On Fri, 21 Dec 2001, Daniel Eischen wrote: > > > > > > > What is T12 suppose to contain in a normal function call? Is > > > > it always the return address? Is that dependent on our compiler? > > > > > > T12 should be set to the address of the called function. Prologue code in > > > the called function uses this assumption to initialise GP to the correct > > > value for the module containing it. RA will be set to the return address > > > by the call instruction itself. > > > > OK, thanks. I think I understand this a little better. > > > > I need to revisit my {get,set,make,swap}context patches, because > > libc_r should really be using makecontext instead of having its > > own MD macros to munge a jmp_buf. The alpha is a little tricky > > though because a trapframe and sigframe are different formats, > > and the *context routines would probably need to recognize the > > difference. I think the kernel needs to get involved in order > > to tag them appropriately. > > I would love to see libc_r using getcontext, setcontext etc. because the > ia64 setjmp/longjmp are optimised to assume that we are simply unwinding > an existing stack, i.e. they can't be used for context switching. And sparc64 may want to load some register windows from stack before returning _longjmp. -- B.Walter COSMO-Project http://www.cosmo-project.de ticso@cicely.de Usergroup info@cosmo-project.de To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Mon Dec 24 4: 0:58 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from postino.fi.infn.it (postino.fi.infn.it [192.84.145.9]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7137437B41A for ; Mon, 24 Dec 2001 04:00:55 -0800 (PST) Received: from dijkstra.fi.infn.it (dijkstra.fi.infn.it [192.84.145.11]) by postino.fi.infn.it (8.12.1/8.12.1) with ESMTP id fBOD41sx036455 for ; Mon, 24 Dec 2001 13:04:02 GMT From: Riccardo.Veraldi@fi.infn.it Received: by dijkstra.fi.infn.it (Postfix, from userid 1001) id A21261E02; Mon, 24 Dec 2001 12:58:45 +0100 (CET) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by dijkstra.fi.infn.it (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5AAF718601 for ; Mon, 24 Dec 2001 12:58:45 +0100 (CET) Date: Mon, 24 Dec 2001 12:58:44 +0100 (CET) X-X-Sender: To: Subject: Re: xdm not working In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Filter-Version: 1.7 (postino.fi.infn.it) Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Sun, 23 Dec 2001, Christian Weisgerber wrote: > You can't manage other X displays with it. As soon as the remote > display connects, xdm dies. This is a long standing bug on > FreeBSD/alpha, probably for years by now. > this explains why it did not work, I was connection using XDMCP... anyway I installed gdm and it works also wit XDMCP thanks Rick To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Wed Dec 26 9:52:33 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from madeline.boneyard.lawrence.ks.us (madeline.boneyard.lawrence.ks.us [24.124.26.25]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E3D5237B41C for ; Wed, 26 Dec 2001 09:52:30 -0800 (PST) Received: from madeline.boneyard.lawrence.ks.us (madeline.boneyard.lawrence.ks.us [24.124.26.25]) by madeline.boneyard.lawrence.ks.us (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id fBQHqTJ79521 for ; Wed, 26 Dec 2001 11:52:29 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from bsd-alpha@boneyard.lawrence.ks.us) Date: Wed, 26 Dec 2001 11:52:29 -0600 (CST) From: "Stephen D. Spencer" To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Subject: smbfs on the alpha Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Ooc, is there already an initiative to get smbfs running on alpha? I am currently in (personally) uncharted territories. I'm looking for a good place to start examining the point in the kernel source at which the SMB related stuff is excluded from the alpha kernel build. Thanks. Regards, Stephen -- Stephen Spencer UNIX Systems Administrator Electrical Engineering and Computer Science Dept. University of Kansas To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Wed Dec 26 11:24:13 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from freebie.xs4all.nl (freebie.xs4all.nl [213.84.32.253]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A426037B416 for ; Wed, 26 Dec 2001 11:24:04 -0800 (PST) Received: (from wkb@localhost) by freebie.xs4all.nl (8.11.6/8.11.6) id fBQJNxI14878 for freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org; Wed, 26 Dec 2001 20:23:59 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wkb) Date: Wed, 26 Dec 2001 20:23:59 +0100 From: Wilko Bulte To: FreeBSD-alpha mailing list Subject: new: Alpha picture gallery on the Web Message-ID: <20011226202359.A14846@freebie.xs4all.nl> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i X-OS: FreeBSD 4.5-PRERELEASE X-PGP: finger wilko@freebsd.org Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Gents/Ladies, I have started a picture gallery for the various Alpha machines I have access to. http://people.freebsd.org/~wilko/Alpha-gallery/ It is not nearly complete, I will in due time add: DS10L DS20 AS4100 AS255 AS8400 I welcome pictures for the 164* boards, CS20, XP1000 as I don't have access to that hardware. Wilko -- | / o / /_ _ email: wilko@FreeBSD.org |/|/ / / /( (_) Bulte Arnhem, The Netherlands To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Wed Dec 26 13:52:39 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from smtp05.wxs.nl (smtp05.wxs.nl [195.121.6.57]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E24EE37B416 for ; Wed, 26 Dec 2001 13:52:35 -0800 (PST) Received: from yokozuna.bsd ([213.10.35.60]) by smtp05.wxs.nl (Netscape Messaging Server 4.15) with ESMTP id GOZ0RM02.LS8 for ; Wed, 26 Dec 2001 22:52:34 +0100 Date: Wed, 26 Dec 2001 22:50:50 +0100 (CET) From: Marco Beishuizen Reply-To: Marco Beishuizen To: alpha@freebsd.org Subject: error compiling generic kernel Message-ID: FreeBSD: http://www.freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi all, I have a Digital PWS 600a and succesfully installed FreeBSD 4.4-release over FTP. Now I want to compile my own kernel and therfore I used the GENERIC config file and the only thing I changed is the MAXUSERS statement which I changed from 32 to 128. When it compiles it stops with the following error codes: @/alpha/linux/linux.h:34: linux_syscall.h: No such file or directory In file included from /usr/src/sys/modules/linux/../../alpha/linux/linux_genassym.c:8: @/alpha/linux/linux.h:428: 'LINUX_SYS_MAXSYSCALL' undeclared here (not in a function) *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/src/sys/modules/linux. *** Error code 1 I have tried different values instead of 128 but that didn't matter. I also installed the linux emulator. It seems that the error has something to do with the MAXUSERS statement in the config file. Does anyone know how I can successfully compile my own kernel? Thanks, Marco -- One advantage of talking to yourself is that you know at least somebody's listening. -- Franklin P. Jones To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Wed Dec 26 18: 0:31 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from duke.cs.duke.edu (duke.cs.duke.edu [152.3.140.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5999737B405 for ; Wed, 26 Dec 2001 18:00:28 -0800 (PST) Received: from grasshopper.cs.duke.edu (grasshopper.cs.duke.edu [152.3.145.30]) by duke.cs.duke.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id VAA28334; Wed, 26 Dec 2001 21:00:22 -0500 (EST) Received: (from gallatin@localhost) by grasshopper.cs.duke.edu (8.11.6/8.9.1) id fBR1xv936071; Wed, 26 Dec 2001 20:59:57 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from gallatin@cs.duke.edu) From: Andrew Gallatin MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <15402.32925.404751.594555@grasshopper.cs.duke.edu> Date: Wed, 26 Dec 2001 20:59:57 -0500 (EST) To: Bernd Walter Cc: freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: floating point exception masks? In-Reply-To: <20011222104523.GB3406@cicely9.cicely.de> References: <20011221151906.GA97006@cicely9.cicely.de> <15395.21814.558196.880593@grasshopper.cs.duke.edu> <20011222104523.GB3406@cicely9.cicely.de> X-Mailer: VM 6.75 under 21.1 (patch 12) "Channel Islands" XEmacs Lucid Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Bernd Walter writes: > #0 0x0 in ?? () > (gdb) > > The number of warnings is also very impressive. > > :( > > Mozilla was running for me on -current from febuary. I built things with symbols & managed to debug it a little further by looking at the registers in the above frame & seeing that it had a return address somewhere in the javascript layer (it was calling C from JS or the other way around, the details are fuzzy). I gave up at this point. Sigh. Drew To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Wed Dec 26 20: 6:40 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from srv1.cosmo-project.de (srv1.cosmo-project.de [213.83.6.106]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A748B37B405 for ; Wed, 26 Dec 2001 20:06:36 -0800 (PST) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by srv1.cosmo-project.de (8.11.6/8.11.6) with UUCP id fBR46Xr85137; Thu, 27 Dec 2001 05:06:33 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from ticso@cicely9.cicely.de) Received: from mail.cicely.de (cicely20.cicely.de [10.1.1.22]) by cicely5.cicely.de (8.12.1/8.12.1) with ESMTP id fBR46btx086786; Thu, 27 Dec 2001 05:06:38 +0100 (CET)?g (envelope-from ticso@cicely9.cicely.de) Received: from cicely9.cicely.de (cicely9.cicely.de [10.1.7.11]) by mail.cicely.de (8.11.0/8.11.0) with ESMTP id fBR46aW02719; Thu, 27 Dec 2001 05:06:37 +0100 (CET) Received: (from ticso@localhost) by cicely9.cicely.de (8.11.6/8.11.6) id fBR46ap14246; Thu, 27 Dec 2001 05:06:36 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from ticso) Date: Thu, 27 Dec 2001 05:06:36 +0100 From: Bernd Walter To: Wilko Bulte Cc: FreeBSD-alpha mailing list Subject: Re: new: Alpha picture gallery on the Web Message-ID: <20011227040635.GA12956@cicely9.cicely.de> References: <20011226202359.A14846@freebie.xs4all.nl> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20011226202359.A14846@freebie.xs4all.nl> User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.24i X-Operating-System: FreeBSD cicely9.cicely.de 5.0-CURRENT alpha Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Wed, Dec 26, 2001 at 08:23:59PM +0100, Wilko Bulte wrote: > Gents/Ladies, > > I have started a picture gallery for the various Alpha machines > I have access to. > > http://people.freebsd.org/~wilko/Alpha-gallery/ Nice Idea. > It is not nearly complete, I will in due time add: > > DS10L > DS20 > AS4100 > AS255 > AS8400 > > I welcome pictures for the 164* boards, CS20, XP1000 > as I don't have access to that hardware. I have put some AXPpci33 Pictures to http://www.cosmo-project.de/~bernd/alpha-pics/axppci33 Some PC164 Pictures will be added soon - currently there are to many cables hiding the board :) -- B.Walter COSMO-Project http://www.cosmo-project.de ticso@cicely.de Usergroup info@cosmo-project.de To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Thu Dec 27 8:15:22 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from freebie.xs4all.nl (freebie.xs4all.nl [213.84.32.253]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 436CB37B416 for ; Thu, 27 Dec 2001 08:15:12 -0800 (PST) Received: (from wkb@localhost) by freebie.xs4all.nl (8.11.6/8.11.6) id fBRGEiA21954; Thu, 27 Dec 2001 17:14:44 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wkb) Date: Thu, 27 Dec 2001 17:14:44 +0100 From: Wilko Bulte To: Bernd Walter Cc: FreeBSD-alpha mailing list Subject: Re: new: Alpha picture gallery on the Web Message-ID: <20011227171444.A18660@freebie.xs4all.nl> References: <20011226202359.A14846@freebie.xs4all.nl> <20011227040635.GA12956@cicely9.cicely.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <20011227040635.GA12956@cicely9.cicely.de>; from ticso@cicely9.cicely.de on Thu, Dec 27, 2001 at 05:06:36AM +0100 X-OS: FreeBSD 4.5-PRERELEASE X-PGP: finger wilko@freebsd.org Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Thu, Dec 27, 2001 at 05:06:36AM +0100, Bernd Walter wrote: > On Wed, Dec 26, 2001 at 08:23:59PM +0100, Wilko Bulte wrote: > > > > http://people.freebsd.org/~wilko/Alpha-gallery/ > > Nice Idea. Thanks. > I have put some AXPpci33 Pictures to > http://www.cosmo-project.de/~bernd/alpha-pics/axppci33 > Some PC164 Pictures will be added soon - currently there are to many > cables hiding the board :) Thanks, I have assimilated the NoName pictures into the URL above in the meantime ;) Wilko -- | / o / /_ _ email: wilko@FreeBSD.org |/|/ / / /( (_) Bulte Arnhem, The Netherlands To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Thu Dec 27 9:54:53 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from postino.fi.infn.it (postino.fi.infn.it [192.84.145.9]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 107A837B41A for ; Thu, 27 Dec 2001 09:54:48 -0800 (PST) Received: from dijkstra.fi.infn.it (dijkstra.fi.infn.it [192.84.145.11]) by postino.fi.infn.it (8.12.1/8.12.1) with ESMTP id fBRIwmsx054266 for ; Thu, 27 Dec 2001 18:58:49 GMT From: Riccardo.Veraldi@fi.infn.it Received: by dijkstra.fi.infn.it (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 6579A1E02; Thu, 27 Dec 2001 18:52:28 +0100 (CET) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by dijkstra.fi.infn.it (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2444018601 for ; Thu, 27 Dec 2001 18:52:28 +0100 (CET) Date: Thu, 27 Dec 2001 18:52:27 +0100 (CET) X-X-Sender: To: Subject: port/net samba 2.2 does not work on alpha Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Filter-Version: 1.7 (postino.fi.infn.it) Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org anyonwe got troubles with samba 2.2.2 on alpha? It does not work. [2001/12/26 20:08:59, 0] lib/messages.c:message_init(97) ERROR: Failed to initialise messages database searching around I found someone telling it is a problem related to fcntl, so I tryed to add some CFLAGS options I found on dejanews which forced using fcntl64 instead of fcntl but anyway I do not think a fcntl64 does exist in libc... anyway nothing worked out. I Also tryed to look at comp.protocols.smb without success. anyone has an idea about it? thanks Rick To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Thu Dec 27 12:50:59 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from postino.fi.infn.it (postino.fi.infn.it [192.84.145.9]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 41A4F37B405 for ; Thu, 27 Dec 2001 12:50:56 -0800 (PST) Received: from dijkstra.fi.infn.it (dijkstra.fi.infn.it [192.84.145.11]) by postino.fi.infn.it (8.12.1/8.12.1) with ESMTP id fBRLswsx054899 for ; Thu, 27 Dec 2001 21:54:59 GMT From: Riccardo.Veraldi@fi.infn.it Received: by dijkstra.fi.infn.it (Postfix, from userid 1001) id D81761E02; Thu, 27 Dec 2001 21:48:35 +0100 (CET) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by dijkstra.fi.infn.it (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9003B18601 for ; Thu, 27 Dec 2001 21:48:35 +0100 (CET) Date: Thu, 27 Dec 2001 21:48:35 +0100 (CET) X-X-Sender: To: Subject: strange behaviour on Miata Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Filter-Version: 1.7 (postino.fi.infn.it) Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hello, I noticed a strange behaviour on Miata (FreeBSD-4.4 stable). If I Decompress large tar.gz archives (-tvzf) I see the lines of the screen stopping from time to time every 30 seconds, then the lines keeps back scrolling. Later I noticed the same behaviour using xosview. The cpu, mem, i/o and network stats are like to be frozen every 30 seconds then they keep running again and stopping again after 30 seconds, freezing for 1 second then again it continues running. When xosview freezes every 30 seconds there is a small but visible CPU peak (every 30 seconds). All this looks like weird. What it could be ?? thanks Rick To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Thu Dec 27 17:12:44 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from madeline.boneyard.lawrence.ks.us (madeline.boneyard.lawrence.ks.us [24.124.26.25]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0CE1137B417 for ; Thu, 27 Dec 2001 17:12:40 -0800 (PST) Received: from madeline.boneyard.lawrence.ks.us (madeline.boneyard.lawrence.ks.us [24.124.26.25]) by madeline.boneyard.lawrence.ks.us (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id fBS1CUJ84902; Thu, 27 Dec 2001 19:12:30 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from bsd-alpha@boneyard.lawrence.ks.us) Date: Thu, 27 Dec 2001 19:12:30 -0600 (CST) From: "Stephen D. Spencer" To: Riccardo.Veraldi@fi.infn.it Cc: freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: port/net samba 2.2 does not work on alpha In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Thu, 27 Dec 2001 Riccardo.Veraldi@fi.infn.it wrote: > > anyonwe got troubles with samba 2.2.2 on alpha? > It does not work. > > [2001/12/26 20:08:59, 0] lib/messages.c:message_init(97) > ERROR: Failed to initialise messages database > > searching around I found someone telling it is a problem related to fcntl, > so I tryed to add some CFLAGS options I found on dejanews which forced > using fcntl64 instead of fcntl but anyway I do not think a fcntl64 does > exist in libc... anyway nothing worked out. I Also tryed to look at > comp.protocols.smb without success. > anyone has an idea about it? > thanks > > Rick > I am running a samba 2.2.2 instance that I compiled from source without difficulties on a DS10. This machine is -stable as of yesterday. -- Stephen Spencer UNIX Systems Administrator Electrical Engineering and Computer Science Dept. University of Kansas To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Fri Dec 28 1:28: 7 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from postino.fi.infn.it (postino.fi.infn.it [192.84.145.9]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C3AA837B405 for ; Fri, 28 Dec 2001 01:28:03 -0800 (PST) Received: from dijkstra.fi.infn.it (dijkstra.fi.infn.it [192.84.145.11]) by postino.fi.infn.it (8.12.1/8.12.1) with ESMTP id fBSAWEsx057795 for ; Fri, 28 Dec 2001 10:32:15 GMT From: Riccardo.Veraldi@fi.infn.it Received: by dijkstra.fi.infn.it (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 290FB1E02; Fri, 28 Dec 2001 10:25:41 +0100 (CET) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by dijkstra.fi.infn.it (Postfix) with ESMTP id ECC7818601 for ; Fri, 28 Dec 2001 10:25:40 +0100 (CET) Date: Fri, 28 Dec 2001 10:25:40 +0100 (CET) X-X-Sender: To: Subject: IDE disks on Miata Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Filter-Version: 1.7 (postino.fi.infn.it) Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Do u think a 100GB WD disc will work on Miata or is there some disk size limit for the ide controller on Miata? thanks Rick To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Fri Dec 28 7: 7:34 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from alcatraz.iptelecom.net.ua (alcatraz.iptelecom.net.ua [212.9.224.15]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 693DB37B429; Fri, 28 Dec 2001 07:06:50 -0800 (PST) Received: from ipcard.iptcom.net (ipcard.iptcom.net [212.9.224.5]) by alcatraz.iptelecom.net.ua (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA59969; Fri, 28 Dec 2001 17:06:28 +0200 (EET) (envelope-from sobomax@FreeBSD.org) Received: from vega.vega.com (h228.228.dialup.iptcom.net [212.9.228.228]) by ipcard.iptcom.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA81098; Fri, 28 Dec 2001 17:06:23 +0200 (EET) (envelope-from sobomax@FreeBSD.org) Received: from FreeBSD.org (big_brother.vega.com [192.168.1.1]) by vega.vega.com (8.11.6/8.11.3) with ESMTP id fBSF5pm15891; Fri, 28 Dec 2001 17:05:51 +0200 (EET) (envelope-from sobomax@FreeBSD.org) Message-ID: <3C2C8A5C.70EA706C@FreeBSD.org> Date: Fri, 28 Dec 2001 17:06:04 +0200 From: Maxim Sobolev Organization: Vega International Capital X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en,uk,ru MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Andrew Gallatin Cc: gnome@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: native mozilla not building on alpha References: <15363.47667.320500.37327@grasshopper.cs.duke.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=koi8-r Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I've added your patches into 0.9.7. As for your problems with starting Mozilla on alpha, I think that it would be better to submit your report to Mozilla developers instead, because they obviously have more clue about what's going on. Thanks! -Maxim Andrew Gallatin wrote: > > Hi, > > I've fixed a few bugs which get mozilla most of the way through the > compile on alpha, but it crashes with a segv in the final stages of > the build. > > I've appended a patch. This patch adds 3 files which do the > following: > > files/patch-nsprpub::pr::include::md::_freebsd.cfg: > > - Add IS_64, like other 64-bit platforms have. > > files/patch-xpfe::bootstrap::nsAppRunner.cpp: > > - Use ieeefp.h rather than floatingpoint.h so that fpsetmask() proto > gets used on alpha > > files/patch-extensions::transformiix::source::base::Double.cpp > > - Use ieeefp.h rather than floatingpoint.h so that fpsetmask() proto > gets used on alpha > - FP_X_DNML does not exist on alpha; do not use it. > > Hoever, things still don't work. The build dies like this: > > gmake[1]: Leaving directory `/home/gallatin/ports/www/mozilla/work/mozilla/mailnews' > gmake[1]: Entering directory `/home/gallatin/ports/www/mozilla/work/mozilla/l10n' > gmake[2]: Entering directory `/home/gallatin/ports/www/mozilla/work/mozilla/l10n/langpacks' > gmake[2]: Leaving directory `/home/gallatin/ports/www/mozilla/work/mozilla/l10n/langpacks' > gmake[1]: Leaving directory `/home/gallatin/ports/www/mozilla/work/mozilla/l10n' > gmake[1]: Entering directory `/home/gallatin/ports/www/mozilla/work/mozilla/xpfe/bootstrap' > ../../config/nsinstall -R -m 755 mozilla-bin ../../dist/bin > ../../config/nsinstall -R mozilla ../../dist/bin > ../../config/nsinstall -R splash.xpm ../../dist/bin > gmake[1]: Leaving directory `/home/gallatin/ports/www/mozilla/work/mozilla/xpfe/bootstrap' > Type Manifest File: /home/gallatin/ports/www/mozilla/work/mozilla/dist/bin/components/xpti.dat > nsNativeComponentLoader: autoregistering begins. > *** Registering UcharUtil components (all right -- a generic module!) > *** Registering nsUConvModule components (all right -- a generic module!) > *** Registering nsUCvJAModule components (all right -- a generic module!) > RegSelf Shift_JIS to Unicode converter complete > RegSelf EUC-JP to Unicode converter complete > RegSelf ISO-2022-JP to Unicode converter complete > RegSelf Unicode to Shift_JIS converter complete > <...> > *** Chrome Registration of skin: Checking for contents.rdf at jar:resource:/chrome/venkman.jar!/skin/modern/venkman/ > *** Chrome Registration of locale: Checking for contents.rdf at jar:resource:/chrome/venkman.jar!/locale/en-US/venkman/ > *** Chrome Registration of package: Checking for contents.rdf at jar:resource:/chrome/messenger.jar!/content/messenger/ > *** Chrome Registration of package: Checking for contents.rdf at jar:resource:/chrome/messenger.jar!/content/messenger-region/ > *** Chrome Registration of locale: Checking for contents.rdf at jar:resource:/chrome/en-US.jar!/locale/en-US/messenger/ > *** Chrome Registration of locale: Checking for contents.rdf at jar:resource:/chrome/US.jar!/locale/US/messenger-region/Segmentation fault - core dumped > *** Error code 139 > > Stop in /home/gallatin/ports/www/mozilla. > *** Error code 1 > > Stop in /home/gallatin/ports/www/mozilla. > *** Error code 1 > > Stop in /home/gallatin/ports/www/mozilla. > thunder/gallatin:mozilla> echo $cwd > /usr/ports/www/mozilla > > Examining the core file, I see that XPTC_InvokeByIndex is calling a > null function (eg, it's jumping to 0 and dying with a SEGV). > > <10:11am>thunder/gallatin:bin>gdb regxpcom regxpcom.core > GNU gdb 4.18 > Copyright 1998 Free Software Foundation, Inc. > GDB is free software, covered by the GNU General Public License, and you are > welcome to change it and/or distribute copies of it under certain conditions. > Type "show copying" to see the conditions. > There is absolutely no warranty for GDB. Type "show warranty" for details. > This GDB was configured as "alpha-unknown-freebsd"... > Core was generated by `regxpcom'. > Program terminated with signal 11, Segmentation fault. > Reading symbols from /home/gallatin/ports/www/mozilla/work/mozilla/dist/bin/./libxpcom.so...done. > <...> > Reading symbols from /home/gallatin/ports/www/mozilla/work/mozilla/dist/bin/components/libabsyncsvc.so...done. > Reading symbols from /usr/libexec/ld-elf.so.1...done. > #0 0x0 in ?? () > (gdb) bt > #0 0x0 in ?? () > (gdb) info frame > Stack level 0, frame at 0x0: > pc = 0x0; saved pc 0x1601c2c94 > Arglist at 0xffffffffffffffd0, args: > Locals at unknown address, Previous frame's sp is 0x0 > (gdb) l * 0x1601c2c94 > 0x1601c2c94 is in invoke_copy_to_stack(unsigned long *, unsigned int, nsXPTCVariant *) (xptcinvoke_linux_alpha.cpp:94). > > < actually, this is a lie, its really in XPTC_InvokeByIndex >: > > > (gdb) disassemble 0x1601c2c94 > Dump of assembler code for function XPTC_InvokeByIndex: > 0x1601c2c00 : ldah gp,10(t12) > <..> > > The saved PC matches up to where it tries to call a null virtual function (Line 169 of xptcinvoke_linux_alpha). > > If I run the mozzila script in work/mozilla/dist/bin with -g, and set > breaks in XPTC_InvokeByIndex, I see that this happens the second time > that XPTC_InvokeByIndex is called. The stack looks like this the > first time it's called (when it does not crash): > > (gdb) where > #0 0x1602fac00 in XPTC_InvokeByIndex () at xptcinvoke_linux_alpha.cpp:94 > #1 0x160dee618 in XPCWrappedNative::CallMethod (ccx=@0x11ffa680, mode=301966648) at xpcwrappednative.cpp:2009 > #2 0x160dfdc90 in XPC_WN_GetterSetter (cx=0x120214400, obj=0x11ffa680, argc=0, argv=0x12022a080, vp=0x11ffa7f0) > at xpcwrappednativejsops.cpp:1298 > #3 0x1601005cc in js_Invoke (cx=0x120214400, argc=301967568, flags=301967544) at jsinterp.c:832 > #4 0x1601009e0 in js_InternalInvoke (cx=0x120214400, obj=0x12017d8d0, fval=4833409232, flags=538433744, argc=0, > argv=0x0, rval=0x0) at jsinterp.c:924 > #5 0x16011d594 in js_GetProperty (cx=0x120214400, obj=0x12017d8d0, id=4834069696, vp=0x11ffaac8) at jsobj.c:2440 > #6 0x16010a898 in js_Interpret (cx=0x120214400, result=0x160e50494) at jsinterp.c:2623 > #7 0x160100d14 in js_Execute (cx=0x120214400, chain=0x12017d730, script=0x1, down=0x0, special=0, result=0x11ffa870) > at jsinterp.c:1012 > #8 0x1600d25cc in JS_ExecuteScript (cx=0x120214400, obj=0x9, script=0x1, rval=0x120219780) at jsapi.c:3273 > #9 0x160e51d60 in mozJSComponentLoader::GlobalForLocation (this=0x12016c800, > aLocation=0x5425ec15 , component=0xffffffff80000001) > at mozJSComponentLoader.cpp:1177 > #10 0x160e50494 in mozJSComponentLoader::ModuleForLocation (this=0x12016c800, > registryLocation=0x12016a380 "rel:nsProxyAutoConfig.js", component=0x12016c900) at mozJSComponentLoader.cpp:988 > #11 0x160e4eed0 in mozJSComponentLoader::AttemptRegistration (this=0x12016c800, component=0x12016c900, deferred=0) > at mozJSComponentLoader.cpp:828 > #12 0x160e4e9b8 in mozJSComponentLoader::AutoRegisterComponent (this=0x12016c800, when=9, component=0x12016c900, > registered=0x11ffb284) at mozJSComponentLoader.cpp:769 > #13 0x160e4de94 in mozJSComponentLoader::RegisterComponentsInDir (this=0x12016c800, when=0, dir=0xffffffff80000000) > at mozJSComponentLoader.cpp:588 > #14 0x160e4da18 in mozJSComponentLoader::AutoRegisterComponents (this=0x120219780, when=9, aDirectory=0x1) > at mozJSComponentLoader.cpp:544 > #15 0x160299ef0 in nsComponentManagerImpl::AutoRegisterImpl (this=0x120060200, when=538019104, inDirSpec=0x1) > at nsComponentManager.cpp:2933 > #16 0x1602988f8 in nsComponentManagerImpl::AutoRegister (this=0x120060200, when=0, inDirSpec=0x0) > at nsComponentManager.cpp:2834 > #17 0x16029c570 in nsComponentManager::AutoRegister (when=0, directory=0x0) at nsComponentManager.cpp:3579 > #18 0x120016924 in NS_SetupRegistry_1 (needAutoreg=539072384) at nsSetupRegistry.cpp:56 > #19 0x12000fc5c in main1 (argc=536976136, argv=0x0, nativeApp=0x0) at nsAppRunner.cpp:1145 > #20 0x120012498 in main (argc=1, argv=0x11ffb5e8) at nsAppRunner.cpp:1630 > (gdb) c > > And like this when it does crash: > > (gdb) where > #0 0x1602fac00 in XPTC_InvokeByIndex () at xptcinvoke_linux_alpha.cpp:94 > #1 0x160dee618 in XPCWrappedNative::CallMethod (ccx=@0x11ffa910, mode=301967304) at xpcwrappednative.cpp:2009 > #2 0x160dfd9e4 in XPC_WN_CallMethod (cx=0x120214400, obj=0x12017f9b0, argc=0, argv=0x11ffa910, vp=0x11ffaa80) > at xpcwrappednativejsops.cpp:1266 > #3 0x1601005cc in js_Invoke (cx=0x120214400, argc=0, flags=0) at jsinterp.c:832 > #4 0x1601009e0 in js_InternalInvoke (cx=0x120214400, obj=0x12017f9b0, fval=4833409488, flags=0, argc=0, argv=0x0, > rval=0x0) at jsinterp.c:924 > #5 0x16012149c in js_TryMethod (cx=0x120214400, obj=0x12017f9b0, atom=0x120190f40, argc=0, argv=0x0, rval=0x11fface0) > at jsobj.c:3371 > #6 0x16011f438 in js_DefaultValue (cx=0x120214400, obj=0x12017f9b0, hint=JSTYPE_STRING, vp=0x11ffad00) at jsobj.c:2890 > #7 0x1601490dc in js_ValueToString (cx=0x120214400, v=4833409456) at jsstr.c:2568 > #8 0x1600f63c4 in js_ReportUncaughtException (cx=0x120214400) at jsexn.c:817 > #9 0x1600d25ec in JS_ExecuteScript (cx=0x120214400, obj=0xc, script=0x1, rval=0x120245a80) at jsapi.c:3276 > #10 0x160e51d60 in mozJSComponentLoader::GlobalForLocation (this=0x12016c800, > aLocation=0x5425ec15 , component=0xffffffff80000001) > at mozJSComponentLoader.cpp:1177 > #11 0x160e50494 in mozJSComponentLoader::ModuleForLocation (this=0x12016c800, > registryLocation=0x12016a380 "rel:nsProxyAutoConfig.js", component=0x12016c900) at mozJSComponentLoader.cpp:988 > #12 0x160e4eed0 in mozJSComponentLoader::AttemptRegistration (this=0x12016c800, component=0x12016c900, deferred=0) > at mozJSComponentLoader.cpp:828 > #13 0x160e4e9b8 in mozJSComponentLoader::AutoRegisterComponent (this=0x12016c800, when=12, component=0x12016c900, > registered=0x11ffb284) at mozJSComponentLoader.cpp:769 > #14 0x160e4de94 in mozJSComponentLoader::RegisterComponentsInDir (this=0x12016c800, when=0, dir=0xffffffff80000000) > at mozJSComponentLoader.cpp:588 > #15 0x160e4da18 in mozJSComponentLoader::AutoRegisterComponents (this=0x120245a80, when=12, aDirectory=0x1) > at mozJSComponentLoader.cpp:544 > #16 0x160299ef0 in nsComponentManagerImpl::AutoRegisterImpl (this=0x120060200, when=538019104, inDirSpec=0x1) > at nsComponentManager.cpp:2933 > #17 0x1602988f8 in nsComponentManagerImpl::AutoRegister (this=0x120060200, when=0, inDirSpec=0x0) > at nsComponentManager.cpp:2834 > #18 0x16029c570 in nsComponentManager::AutoRegister (when=0, directory=0x0) at nsComponentManager.cpp:3579 > #19 0x120016924 in NS_SetupRegistry_1 (needAutoreg=539253376) at nsSetupRegistry.cpp:56 > #20 0x12000fc5c in main1 (argc=536976136, argv=0x0, nativeApp=0x0) at nsAppRunner.cpp:1145 > #21 0x120012498 in main (argc=1, argv=0x11ffb5e8) at nsAppRunner.cpp:1630 > > I don't know didly squat about the convoluted glue that XPTC_Invoke > seems to be doing. Any suggestions on how I can find where the bogus > (0x0) PC is coming from? It seems to have something to do with > reporting an uncaught Javascript exception. > > Is Javascript itself 64-bit safe? It generates loads of worrisome messages: > > Building deps for jsparse.c > cc -o jsparse.o -c -DOSTYPE=\"FreeBSD4\" -DOSARCH=\"FreeBSD\" -DOJI -DEXPORT_JS_API -DJS_USE_SAFE_ARENA -I../../dist/include/js -I../../dist/include -I/home/gallatin/ports/www/mozilla/work/mozilla/dist/include/nspr -I/usr/local/include -I/usr/local/include -I. -I/usr/X11R6/include -fPIC -I/usr/X11R6/include -I/usr/X11R6/include -Wall -W -Wno-unused -Wpointer-arith -Wcast-align -Wno-long-long -O -pipe -mcpu=ev56 -pipe -DDEBUG -DDEBUG_gallatin -DTRACING -g -I/usr/X11R6/include -I/usr/X11R6/include -include ../../config-defs.h -DMOZILLA_CLIENT jsparse.c > jsparse.c: In function `HasFinalReturn': > jsparse.c:446: warning: cast increases required alignment of target type > jsparse.c:463: warning: cast increases required alignment of target type > jsparse.c: In function `FunctionDef': > jsparse.c:794: warning: cast to pointer from integer of different size > jsparse.c: In function `Statement': > <...> > > Thanks, > > Drew > > --- /dev/null Tue Nov 27 08:10:33 2001 > +++ files/patch-nsprpub::pr::include::md::_freebsd.cfg Mon Nov 26 17:17:31 2001 > @@ -0,0 +1,13 @@ > +--- nsprpub/pr/include/md/_freebsd.cfg.orig Mon Nov 26 17:07:20 2001 > ++++ nsprpub/pr/include/md/_freebsd.cfg Mon Nov 26 17:15:01 2001 > +@@ -93,8 +93,8 @@ > + > + #elif defined(__alpha) > + > +-#define IS_LITTLE_ENDIAN 1 > +-#undef IS_BIG_ENDIAN > ++#define IS_64 > ++ > + #define HAVE_LONG_LONG > + #define HAVE_ALIGNED_DOUBLES > + #define HAVE_ALIGNED_LONGLONGS > --- /dev/null Tue Nov 27 08:10:33 2001 > +++ files/patch-xpfe::bootstrap::nsAppRunner.cpp Mon Nov 26 17:00:02 2001 > @@ -0,0 +1,11 @@ > +--- xpfe/bootstrap/nsAppRunner.cpp.orig Mon Nov 26 16:53:29 2001 > ++++ xpfe/bootstrap/nsAppRunner.cpp Mon Nov 26 16:54:12 2001 > +@@ -1060,7 +1060,7 @@ > + > + #if defined(FREEBSD) > + // pick up fpsetmask prototype. > +-#include > ++#include > + #endif > + > + // Note: nativeApp is an owning reference that this function has responsibility > --- /dev/null Tue Nov 27 08:10:33 2001 > +++ files/patch-extensions::transformiix::source::base::Double.cpp Mon Nov 26 16:58:32 2001 > @@ -0,0 +1,23 @@ > +--- extensions/transformiix/source/base/Double.cpp.orig Mon Nov 26 16:55:21 2001 > ++++ extensions/transformiix/source/base/Double.cpp Mon Nov 26 16:56:08 2001 > +@@ -41,7 +41,7 @@ > + #endif > + //A trick to handle IEEE floating point exceptions on FreeBSD - E.D. > + #ifdef __FreeBSD__ > +-#include > ++#include > + #endif > + #ifndef TX_EXE > + #include "prdtoa.h" > +@@ -56,7 +56,11 @@ > + > + //A trick to handle IEEE floating point exceptions on FreeBSD - E.D. > + #ifdef __FreeBSD__ > ++#ifdef __alpha__ > ++fp_except_t allmask = FP_X_INV|FP_X_OFL|FP_X_UFL|FP_X_DZ|FP_X_IMP; > ++#else > + fp_except_t allmask = FP_X_INV|FP_X_OFL|FP_X_UFL|FP_X_DZ|FP_X_IMP|FP_X_DNML; > ++#endif > + fp_except_t oldmask = fpsetmask(~allmask); > + #endif > + To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Fri Dec 28 7:32:58 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from emunix.emich.edu (ataru.emich.edu [164.76.104.50]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 837EB37B425 for ; Fri, 28 Dec 2001 07:32:56 -0800 (PST) Received: (from jparker@localhost) by emunix.emich.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) id fBSFWrg08692; Fri, 28 Dec 2001 10:32:53 -0500 (EST) Date: Fri, 28 Dec 2001 10:32:53 -0500 From: Jeremy Parker To: Riccardo.Veraldi@fi.infn.it Cc: alpha@freebsd.org Subject: Re: IDE disks on Miata Message-ID: <20011228103253.E2847@emunix.emich.edu> Reply-To: jparker@emunix.emich.edu References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.21i X-Arbitrary-Number-Of-The-Day: 42 X-Sender: jparker@emunix.emich.edu Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Well, I don't have exact numbers, but I do have a bit of experience with=20 this. I tried a 40gb IDE maxtor drive in my Miata and it did not work,=20 however a 13gb IDE drive worked fine. So I presume there is a limitation= =20 of about 26gb or so. =20 Nothing precise, but my two cents. Jeremy Riccardo.Veraldi@fi.infn.it(Riccardo.Veraldi@fi.infn.it)@Fri, Dec 28, 2001 = at 10:25:40AM +0100: >=20 >=20 > Do u think a 100GB WD disc will work on Miata or is there some disk size > limit for the ide controller on Miata? >=20 >=20 > thanks >=20 > Rick >=20 >=20 >=20 > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Fri Dec 28 9:12:55 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from rwcrmhc51.attbi.com (rwcrmhc51.attbi.com [204.127.198.38]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0402737B421 for ; Fri, 28 Dec 2001 09:12:53 -0800 (PST) Received: from cheshire.blacktabby.org ([12.233.190.154]) by rwcrmhc51.attbi.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.27 201-229-121-127-20010626) with SMTP id <20011228171252.NKGC1920.rwcrmhc51.attbi.com@cheshire.blacktabby.org>; Fri, 28 Dec 2001 17:12:52 +0000 Date: Fri, 28 Dec 2001 09:12:33 -0800 From: Adam Kranzel To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Cc: wkb@freebie.xs4all.nl Subject: Re: new: Alpha picture gallery on the Web Message-Id: <20011228091233.76b9666a.adam@pacificdreamsites.com> X-Mailer: Sylpheed version 0.6.5 (GTK+ 1.2.10; i386--freebsd5.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi... Nice idea :) If you would like some pictures of my 5305 I can get some to you today probably. *tries to find where the digital camera is hidden* thanks -Adam To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Fri Dec 28 10: 5:24 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from poptart.bithose.com (poptart.bithose.com [208.171.236.145]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E934137B419 for ; Fri, 28 Dec 2001 10:05:21 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (jakari@localhost) by poptart.bithose.com (8.11.3/8.11.3) with ESMTP id fBSI4v767984; Fri, 28 Dec 2001 13:04:57 -0500 (EST) X-Authentication-Warning: poptart.bithose.com: jakari owned process doing -bs Date: Fri, 28 Dec 2001 13:04:57 -0500 (EST) From: Jameel Akari To: Wilko Bulte Cc: FreeBSD-alpha mailing list Subject: Re: new: Alpha picture gallery on the Web In-Reply-To: <20011226202359.A14846@freebie.xs4all.nl> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > http://people.freebsd.org/~wilko/Alpha-gallery/ Great idea. I have pictures of my AStation 200 if you'd like copies (I see you have the AS255, so it's pretty much the same) and somewhere I have images of a AS4000 (two cpus, two hoses, EISA & PCI, some pictures are labeled). #!/jameel/akari for zig in $(find / -name zig); do rm -f "$zig"; done; export GREAT_JUSTICE=1 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Fri Dec 28 10:19:38 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from mailtest.btconnex.net (mailtest.btconnex.net [209.47.192.8]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 20A3537B41E for ; Fri, 28 Dec 2001 10:19:31 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 63154 invoked from network); 28 Dec 2001 18:18:45 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?192.168.61.2?) (192.168.61.2) by mailtest.btconnex.net with SMTP; 28 Dec 2001 18:18:45 -0000 Date: Fri, 28 Dec 2001 13:18:53 -0500 (EST) From: Elliott Perrin X-X-Sender: To: Subject: Compiling gnustep-base from the ports Message-ID: <20011228131304.X30086-100000@decalpha.beanfield.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I was wondering if anyone else has had this problem (and a possible workaround for it) Build of gnustep-base port (/usr/ports/lang/gnustep-base) fails at this point on a DEC Alpha PW 500au running FreeBSD 5.0-20010721-CURRENT ______________SNIP________________ cc NSObject.m -c -DGNUSTEP_INSTALL_PREFIX=/usr/local/GNUstep/System -DGNUSTEP_TARGET_DIR=\"alpha/freebsd\" -DGNUSTEP_TARGET_CPU=\"alpha\" -DGNUSTEP_TARGET_OS=\"freebsd\" -DLIBRARY_COMBO=\"gnu-gnu-gnu\" -Wall -DGNUSTEP -DGNUSTEP_BASE_LIBRARY=1 -DGNU_RUNTIME=1 -DGNUSTEP_BASE_LIBRARY=1 -D_REENTRANT -D_THREAD_SAFE -fPIC -DGSWARN -O -pipe -mcpu=ev56 -Wno-import -fgnu-runtime -I../Headers/gnustep -I../Headers -I./alpha/freebsd -I. -I/usr/local/include -I/usr/local/GNUstep/System/Headers -I/usr/local/include -fgnu-runtime -I/usr/local/GNUstep/System/Headers -I/usr/local/include/libxml2 -I/usr/local/include/libxml2/libxml -I/root/GNUstep/Library/Headers -I/usr/local/GNUstep/Local/Library/Headers -I/usr/local/GNUstep/Network/Library/Headers -I/usr/local/GNUstep/System/Library/Headers -I/usr/local/GNUstep/Network/Headers/gnustep -I/root/GNUstep/Headers/gnustep -I/usr/local/GNUstep/Local/Headers/gnustep -I/usr/local/GNUstep/System/Headers/gnustep -I/usr/local/GNUstep/Network/Headers/alpha/freebsd -I/root/GNUstep/Headers/alpha/freebsd -I/usr/local/GNUstep/Local/Headers/alpha/freebsd -I/usr/local/GNUstep/System/Headers/alpha/freebsd -I/root/GNUstep/Headers -I/usr/local/GNUstep/Local/Headers -I/usr/local/GNUstep/Network/Headers -I/usr/local/GNUstep/System/Headers -o shared_obj/alpha/freebsd/gnu-gnu-gnu/NSObject.o NSObject.m: In function `-[NSObject hash]': NSObject.m:970: warning: cast from pointer to integer of different size {standard input}: Assembler messages: {standard input}:238: Error: unknown opcode `fstcw' {standard input}:243: Error: unknown opcode `fldcw' gmake[3]: *** [shared_obj/alpha/freebsd/gnu-gnu-gnu/NSObject.o] Error 1 gmake[2]: *** [libgnustep-base.build] Error 2 gmake[1]: *** [libgnustep-base.all.library.variables] Error 2 gmake[1]: Leaving directory `/usr/ports/lang/gnustep-base/work/gnustep-base-1.0.2/Source' gmake: *** [internal-all] Error 2 *** Error code 2 Stop in /usr/ports/lang/gnustep-base. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/ports/lang/gnustep-base. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/ports/lang/gnustep-base. _______________END SNIP_________________ Any pointers would be great Cheers, Elliott Perrin eperrin@beanfield.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Fri Dec 28 11:40:56 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from aismail.ais.msu.edu (ais.msu.edu [35.8.113.169]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 80FF937B41A for ; Fri, 28 Dec 2001 11:40:54 -0800 (PST) Received: by ais.msu.edu with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Fri, 28 Dec 2001 14:40:53 -0500 Message-ID: <17F0EC17EF87D311BF65009027D3C39D01FC29F1@ais.msu.edu> From: "Murphy, Patrick" To: "'freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org'" Subject: Clock Skew on 5.0-CURRENT SMP Alpha 2100A/250 3 engine machine Date: Fri, 28 Dec 2001 14:40:53 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Does anyone know a way to fix the clock skew on an SMP alpha machine? I am running 5.0-CURRENT as of 2001/12/27. The system clock is falling behind quickly. The machine has 3 250Mhz engines. Running a "sleep 10" command actually sleeps for 20 seconds. I am not as concerned about sleep taking so long as I am keeping the clock accurate for system processes and file time stamps. Patrick Murphy Michigan State University To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Fri Dec 28 15: 3:21 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from freebie.xs4all.nl (freebie.xs4all.nl [213.84.32.253]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6F92837B41A for ; Fri, 28 Dec 2001 15:03:17 -0800 (PST) Received: (from wkb@localhost) by freebie.xs4all.nl (8.11.6/8.11.6) id fBSN3AP52720; Sat, 29 Dec 2001 00:03:10 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wkb) Date: Sat, 29 Dec 2001 00:03:10 +0100 From: Wilko Bulte To: Adam Kranzel Cc: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Subject: Re: new: Alpha picture gallery on the Web Message-ID: <20011229000310.E51984@freebie.xs4all.nl> References: <20011228091233.76b9666a.adam@pacificdreamsites.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <20011228091233.76b9666a.adam@pacificdreamsites.com>; from adam@pacificdreamsites.com on Fri, Dec 28, 2001 at 09:12:33AM -0800 X-OS: FreeBSD 4.5-PRERELEASE X-PGP: finger wilko@freebsd.org Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Fri, Dec 28, 2001 at 09:12:33AM -0800, Adam Kranzel wrote: Please send 'm if you find the camera.. > Nice idea :) > If you would like some pictures of my 5305 I can get some to you today probably. > *tries to find where the digital camera is hidden* > > thanks > -Adam ---end of quoted text--- -- | / o / /_ _ email: wilko@FreeBSD.org |/|/ / / /( (_) Bulte Arnhem, The Netherlands To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Fri Dec 28 15: 3:58 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from freebie.xs4all.nl (freebie.xs4all.nl [213.84.32.253]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7FE3A37B41A for ; Fri, 28 Dec 2001 15:03:55 -0800 (PST) Received: (from wkb@localhost) by freebie.xs4all.nl (8.11.6/8.11.6) id fBSN3oA52735; Sat, 29 Dec 2001 00:03:50 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wkb) Date: Sat, 29 Dec 2001 00:03:50 +0100 From: Wilko Bulte To: Jameel Akari Cc: FreeBSD-alpha mailing list Subject: Re: new: Alpha picture gallery on the Web Message-ID: <20011229000350.F51984@freebie.xs4all.nl> References: <20011226202359.A14846@freebie.xs4all.nl> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: ; from jakari@bithose.com on Fri, Dec 28, 2001 at 01:04:57PM -0500 X-OS: FreeBSD 4.5-PRERELEASE X-PGP: finger wilko@freebsd.org Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Fri, Dec 28, 2001 at 01:04:57PM -0500, Jameel Akari wrote: > > > http://people.freebsd.org/~wilko/Alpha-gallery/ > > Great idea. > > I have pictures of my AStation 200 if you'd like copies (I see you > have the AS255, so it's pretty much the same) and somewhere I have images > of a AS4000 (two cpus, two hoses, EISA & PCI, some pictures are labeled). Sure, whatever pictures I'm still lacking are most welcome. Wilko -- | / o / /_ _ email: wilko@FreeBSD.org |/|/ / / /( (_) Bulte Arnhem, The Netherlands To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Fri Dec 28 23:28:46 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from femail48.sdc1.sfba.home.com (femail48.sdc1.sfba.home.com [24.254.60.42]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8F89F37B405 for ; Fri, 28 Dec 2001 23:28:40 -0800 (PST) Received: from laptop.baldwin.cx ([24.2.39.156]) by femail48.sdc1.sfba.home.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.20 201-229-121-120-20010223) with ESMTP id <20011229072840.WBPX28486.femail48.sdc1.sfba.home.com@laptop.baldwin.cx>; Fri, 28 Dec 2001 23:28:40 -0800 Message-ID: X-Mailer: XFMail 1.4.0 on FreeBSD X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <17F0EC17EF87D311BF65009027D3C39D01FC29F1@ais.msu.edu> Date: Fri, 28 Dec 2001 23:28:28 -0800 (PST) From: John Baldwin To: "Murphy, Patrick" Subject: RE: Clock Skew on 5.0-CURRENT SMP Alpha 2100A/250 3 engine machi Cc: "freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org" Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On 28-Dec-01 Murphy, Patrick wrote: > Does anyone know a way to fix the clock skew on an SMP alpha machine? I am > running 5.0-CURRENT as of 2001/12/27. The system clock is falling behind > quickly. The machine has 3 250Mhz engines. Running a "sleep 10" command > actually sleeps for 20 seconds. > > I am not as concerned about sleep taking so long as I am keeping the clock > accurate for system processes and file time stamps. > > Patrick Murphy > Michigan State University Hmm, the clock on the 2100A is known to run at about 1/2 speed (or so it feels like) on an SMP kernel. Not sure how to fix this. You can try playing around with it. Perhaps halving the clock freq if SMP is detected for the 2100 family? -- John Baldwin <>< http://www.FreeBSD.org/~jhb/ "Power Users Use the Power to Serve!" - http://www.FreeBSD.org/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Fri Dec 28 23:28:46 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from femail22.sdc1.sfba.home.com (femail22.sdc1.sfba.home.com [24.0.95.147]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0B31937B421 for ; Fri, 28 Dec 2001 23:28:37 -0800 (PST) Received: from laptop.baldwin.cx ([24.2.39.156]) by femail22.sdc1.sfba.home.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.20 201-229-121-120-20010223) with ESMTP id <20011229072836.BDHR14077.femail22.sdc1.sfba.home.com@laptop.baldwin.cx>; Fri, 28 Dec 2001 23:28:36 -0800 Message-ID: X-Mailer: XFMail 1.4.0 on FreeBSD X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Date: Fri, 28 Dec 2001 23:28:25 -0800 (PST) From: John Baldwin To: (Christian Weisgerber) Subject: RE: -CURRENT boot1 broken? Cc: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On 22-Dec-01 Christian Weisgerber wrote: > After moving my -CURRENT (Dec 7) system to a new disk, freshly > disklabeled, I can't boot from said disk. The bootstrap comes up > and proceeds to > > Loading /boot/loader > > halted CPU 0 > > halt code = 2 > kernel stack not valid halt > PC = fffffc00004f9098 > boot failure > > I still can boot from the old disk. This suggests that boot1 is > broken. Ugh, it shouldn't be. :( Can you lookup that address in the loader and see if anything looks like it could be recursing infinitely? Also, do 'e ra' to get the previous return address so you can look that up in boot1/loader using gdb as well. You can also do 'e sp' and then examine the memory from that ragne downwoards (the stack) to find the recursion addresses. -- John Baldwin <>< http://www.FreeBSD.org/~jhb/ "Power Users Use the Power to Serve!" - http://www.FreeBSD.org/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Sat Dec 29 7:49:29 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from srv1.cosmo-project.de (srv1.cosmo-project.de [213.83.6.106]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F320A37B405 for ; Sat, 29 Dec 2001 07:49:25 -0800 (PST) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by srv1.cosmo-project.de (8.11.6/8.11.6) with UUCP id fBTFnOU46553; Sat, 29 Dec 2001 16:49:24 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from ticso@cicely8.cicely.de) Received: from mail.cicely.de (cicely20.cicely.de [10.1.1.22]) by cicely5.cicely.de (8.12.1/8.12.1) with ESMTP id fBTFjrtx008009; Sat, 29 Dec 2001 16:45:54 +0100 (CET)?g (envelope-from ticso@cicely8.cicely.de) Received: from cicely8.cicely.de (cicely8.cicely.de [10.1.2.10]) by mail.cicely.de (8.11.0/8.11.0) with ESMTP id fBTFjrW06272; Sat, 29 Dec 2001 16:45:53 +0100 (CET) Received: (from ticso@localhost) by cicely8.cicely.de (8.11.6/8.11.6) id fBTFjpl89613; Sat, 29 Dec 2001 16:45:51 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from ticso) Date: Sat, 29 Dec 2001 16:45:50 +0100 From: Bernd Walter To: Wilko Bulte Cc: Bernd Walter , FreeBSD-alpha mailing list Subject: Re: new: Alpha picture gallery on the Web Message-ID: <20011229164550.B89519@cicely8.cicely.de> References: <20011226202359.A14846@freebie.xs4all.nl> <20011227040635.GA12956@cicely9.cicely.de> <20011227171444.A18660@freebie.xs4all.nl> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20011227171444.A18660@freebie.xs4all.nl> User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.23i X-Operating-System: FreeBSD cicely8.cicely.de 5.0-CURRENT i386 Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Thu, Dec 27, 2001 at 05:14:44PM +0100, Wilko Bulte wrote: > On Thu, Dec 27, 2001 at 05:06:36AM +0100, Bernd Walter wrote: > > I have put some AXPpci33 Pictures to > > http://www.cosmo-project.de/~bernd/alpha-pics/axppci33 > > Some PC164 Pictures will be added soon - currently there are to many > > cables hiding the board :) > > Thanks, I have assimilated the NoName pictures into the URL above in > the meantime ;) I have added some pc164 pictures now. -- B.Walter COSMO-Project http://www.cosmo-project.de ticso@cicely.de Usergroup info@cosmo-project.de To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Sat Dec 29 16: 3: 0 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from lycos.co.kr (catv-kwangjoo-210205028145.usr2.hananet.net [210.205.28.145]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id DD34337B416 for ; Sat, 29 Dec 2001 16:02:47 -0800 (PST) Reply-To: adfree114@lycos.co.kr From: adfree114 To: Subject: [광고]문구가 들어간 메일을 100% 차단하는법 !! Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="ks_c_5601-1987" Date: Sun, 30 Dec 2001 09:04:27 +0900 X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Mailtouch 1.0 Message-Id: <20011230000247.DD34337B416@hub.freebsd.org> Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org [광고]문구가 들어간 메일을 100% 차단하는 방법 !!

[광고]문구가 들어간 메일을 100% 차단하는법 !!

컴을 알고나면 스팸메일 걱정안하고 얼마든지 메일을 이용할 수가 있지여~

웹메일 메뉴중 환경설정이나옵션선택 - 필터선택후 - [광고]문구를 수신거부에 추가하면 다음부터 제목에 [광고]라는 문구가 들어간 메일과 영원히 이별을 할 수 있답니다..^^    (욕을 하거나 신고만으론 전혀 효과가 없음)

모든 웹메일에는 스팸차단 기능외 싫어하는 메일만 막을 수 있는 기능이 있으며 .. 성인, 쇼핑, CD, 동영상 등... 받기싫은 내용이 들어간 것만 거부할 수도 있는데 조금만 신경쓰면 [광고]메일 걱정 뚝...!! 간단하죠...^ ^

만약 제목에 [광고]라는 문구가 없다면 본문에 "수신거부"란 문구를 필터링으로 해보세요 그럼 광고메일은 못 들어오고 휴지통으로 사라집니다
 (즉 광고메일은 본문에 "수신거부를 해주세요 등... 죄송합니다 등의 문구가 있으니 그 문구를 포함한 것은 모두 막아 줍니다 )

새로운 도메인 등록안내...바이러스 경고안내...새로운 신상품을 싼 가격에 구입할 수 있는 쇼핑몰...관광안내...학원안내...각종정보 소식지...성인...등...그 모두를 [광고]라고 하지요~

그리고 수신자들중 60%가 광고메일에 의해 수많은 정보를 얻는다고 합니다, 수많은 광고들 중 꼭 그 정보를 필요로 하는 분도 계시다는 사실 때문에 광고는 존재하는 것입니다

그리고 이 어려운 시대에 살아남기 위해 몸부림치는 분들을 위해 자기집 문단속을 하는의미에서 [광고] 필터링 선택하심이 어떨런지요~~
광고주들도 더불어 살아가는 사람들이니까요

광고를 필요로 하는 사람만 보기를 바라는 마음에서....

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