From owner-freebsd-doc Sun Aug 26 2: 0: 6 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D279837B40B for ; Sun, 26 Aug 2001 02:00:02 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.11.4/8.11.4) id f7Q902l40085; Sun, 26 Aug 2001 02:00:02 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats) Date: Sun, 26 Aug 2001 02:00:02 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <200108260900.f7Q902l40085@freefall.freebsd.org> To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Cc: From: "Peter Avalos" Subject: RE: docs/29740: [PATCH] Setting WRKDIRPREFIX=/usr/obj is a bad idea, but not commented Reply-To: "Peter Avalos" Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org The following reply was made to PR docs/29740; it has been noted by GNATS. From: "Peter Avalos" To: "'Dima Dorfman'" Cc: Subject: RE: docs/29740: [PATCH] Setting WRKDIRPREFIX=/usr/obj is a bad idea, but not commented Date: Sun, 26 Aug 2001 03:53:04 -0500 > It sounds like this is a bug in make(1) that should be fixed > (when I first read the PR, I thought this was a documented > `feature' of some sorts). Perhaps you (or whoever was having > this problem) could file a PR against that with some > analysis, and/or at least the simplest test case? Upon searching more about this problem, I stumbled across this: http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=24711 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sun Aug 26 2:30:43 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from infinitive.futureperfectcorporation.com (curie.sunesi.com [196.25.112.244]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 1262637B406 for ; Sun, 26 Aug 2001 02:30:38 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nbm@gerund.futureperfectcorporation.com) Received: (qmail 69419 invoked by uid 0); 26 Aug 2001 09:34:23 -0000 Received: from choke.sunesi.net (HELO gerund.futureperfectcorporation.com) (196.25.112.242) by infinitive.futureperfectcorporation.com with SMTP; 26 Aug 2001 09:34:23 -0000 Received: (qmail 18678 invoked by uid 1001); 26 Aug 2001 09:31:04 -0000 Date: Sun, 26 Aug 2001 11:31:04 +0200 From: Neil Blakey-Milner To: Dima Dorfman Cc: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org, FreeBSD-gnats-submit@freebsd.org Subject: Re: docs/29740: [PATCH] Setting WRKDIRPREFIX=/usr/obj is a bad idea, but not commented Message-ID: <20010826113104.A16096@mithrandr.moria.org> References: <200108252220.f7PMK2Z43522@freefall.freebsd.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <200108252220.f7PMK2Z43522@freefall.freebsd.org>; from dima@unixfreak.org on Sat, Aug 25, 2001 at 03:20:02PM -0700 Organization: iTouch Labs X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 4.3-RELEASE i386 X-URL: http://mithrandr.moria.org/nbm/ Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Sat 2001-08-25 (15:20), Dima Dorfman wrote: > The following reply was made to PR docs/29740; it has been noted by GNATS. > > From: Dima Dorfman > To: "Peter Avalos" > Cc: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@freebsd.org > Subject: Re: docs/29740: [PATCH] Setting WRKDIRPREFIX=/usr/obj is a bad idea, but not commented > Date: Sat, 25 Aug 2001 15:14:31 -0700 > > "Peter Avalos" writes: > > > It seems wrong to tell someone not to do something and not > > > provide an explanation. > > > > I was thinking the same thing, but I honestly don't know why this > > confuses make so much. Perhaps someone who can explain this would > > like to submit a better patch. > > It sounds like this is a bug in make(1) that should be fixed (when I > first read the PR, I thought this was a documented `feature' of some > sorts). Perhaps you (or whoever was having this problem) could file a > PR against that with some analysis, and/or at least the simplest test > case? It's not a bug in make(1), it's what make(1) is supposed to do. It checks if ${OBJDIRPREFIX}/${.CURDIR} exists, and if so, changes directory to that before executing commands in targets. However, the ports system and individual ports tend not to take that into account. The reason the ports directory gets created is that ${WRKDIRPREFIX}/${WRKDIR} is created to put work in. Since WRKDIRPREFIX=OBJDIRPREFIX=/usr/obj, ${OBJDIRPREFIX}/${.CURDIR} is part of the directory tree created. Then the problems start... Basically, it's silly that we require maintainers/porters to worry about this due to one possibility of locations specified in WRKDIRPREFIX. Neil -- Neil Blakey-Milner nbm@mithrandr.moria.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sun Aug 26 2:40: 5 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 90F2837B409 for ; Sun, 26 Aug 2001 02:40:02 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.11.4/8.11.4) id f7Q9e2p46091; Sun, 26 Aug 2001 02:40:02 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats) Date: Sun, 26 Aug 2001 02:40:02 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <200108260940.f7Q9e2p46091@freefall.freebsd.org> To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Cc: From: Neil Blakey-Milner Subject: Re: docs/29740: [PATCH] Setting WRKDIRPREFIX=/usr/obj is a bad idea, but not commented Reply-To: Neil Blakey-Milner Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org The following reply was made to PR docs/29740; it has been noted by GNATS. From: Neil Blakey-Milner To: Dima Dorfman Cc: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org, FreeBSD-gnats-submit@freebsd.org Subject: Re: docs/29740: [PATCH] Setting WRKDIRPREFIX=/usr/obj is a bad idea, but not commented Date: Sun, 26 Aug 2001 11:31:04 +0200 On Sat 2001-08-25 (15:20), Dima Dorfman wrote: > The following reply was made to PR docs/29740; it has been noted by GNATS. > > From: Dima Dorfman > To: "Peter Avalos" > Cc: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@freebsd.org > Subject: Re: docs/29740: [PATCH] Setting WRKDIRPREFIX=/usr/obj is a bad idea, but not commented > Date: Sat, 25 Aug 2001 15:14:31 -0700 > > "Peter Avalos" writes: > > > It seems wrong to tell someone not to do something and not > > > provide an explanation. > > > > I was thinking the same thing, but I honestly don't know why this > > confuses make so much. Perhaps someone who can explain this would > > like to submit a better patch. > > It sounds like this is a bug in make(1) that should be fixed (when I > first read the PR, I thought this was a documented `feature' of some > sorts). Perhaps you (or whoever was having this problem) could file a > PR against that with some analysis, and/or at least the simplest test > case? It's not a bug in make(1), it's what make(1) is supposed to do. It checks if ${OBJDIRPREFIX}/${.CURDIR} exists, and if so, changes directory to that before executing commands in targets. However, the ports system and individual ports tend not to take that into account. The reason the ports directory gets created is that ${WRKDIRPREFIX}/${WRKDIR} is created to put work in. Since WRKDIRPREFIX=OBJDIRPREFIX=/usr/obj, ${OBJDIRPREFIX}/${.CURDIR} is part of the directory tree created. Then the problems start... Basically, it's silly that we require maintainers/porters to worry about this due to one possibility of locations specified in WRKDIRPREFIX. Neil -- Neil Blakey-Milner nbm@mithrandr.moria.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sun Aug 26 5:51:33 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mail.ctonet.it (mail.ctonet.it [212.110.160.100]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0312E37B408 for ; Sun, 26 Aug 2001 05:51:30 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from olgeni@uli.it) Received: from olgeni.olgeni (ppp-88.dial6.ctonet.it [212.110.181.88]) by mail.ctonet.it (Postfix) with ESMTP id E1DDC1226F for ; Sun, 26 Aug 2001 14:51:27 +0200 (CEST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by olgeni.olgeni (8.11.5/8.11.5) with ESMTP id f7QCpSY40949 for ; Sun, 26 Aug 2001 14:51:28 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from olgeni@uli.it) Date: Sun, 26 Aug 2001 14:51:28 +0200 (CEST) From: Jimmy Olgeni X-X-Sender: To: Subject: handbook/config fix for @reboot description Message-ID: <20010826144814.T40928-100000@olgeni.olgeni> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi there, Small patch for doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/config: the @reboot crontab option is actually documented. --- chapter.sgml.orig Sun Aug 26 14:28:41 2001 +++ chapter.sgml Sun Aug 26 14:29:56 2001 @@ -413,7 +413,7 @@ owner of the crontab, services may be started and maintained by non-root users. - This takes advantage of an undocumented feature of &man.cron.8; the + This takes advantage of a feature of &man.cron.8;: the time specification may be replaced by @reboot, which will cause the job to be run when &man.cron.8; is started shortly after -- jimmy To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sun Aug 26 7:18:16 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from aragorn.neomedia.it (aragorn.neomedia.it [195.103.207.6]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 67FC637B405 for ; Sun, 26 Aug 2001 07:18:11 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from bartequi@neomedia.it) Received: (from httpd@localhost) by aragorn.neomedia.it (8.11.4/8.11.4) id f7QEI1909181; Sun, 26 Aug 2001 16:18:01 +0200 (CEST) To: "Deborah G. Lidl" Subject: Re: Message-ID: <998835481.3b8905195df3a@webmail.neomedia.it> Date: Sun, 26 Aug 2001 16:18:01 +0200 (CEST) From: Salvo Bartolotta Cc: doc@FreeBSD.ORG MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit User-Agent: IMP/PHP IMAP webmail program 2.2.4-cvs X-WebMail-Company: Neomedia s.a.s. X-Originating-IP: 62.98.153.152 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > On Fri, Aug 17, 2001 at 07:36:35PM +0100, Nik Clayton said: > > On Fri, Aug 17, 2001 at 06:32:59PM +0100, Mark Ovens wrote: > > > > An acronym is anything formed from (typically the initial) letters from > > > a phrase. > > > > > > ...that forms a word (either real or contrived), so BIOS and SCSI are > > > acronyms, but IDE isn't (unless you pronounce it "eyed"), and neither is > > > PCI, IBM, etc. > > > > What're things like "IDE" referred to then? > Initialisms. One of the first references that Google provided was the > Dr. Grammar FAQ: > http://www.drgrammar.org/faq.cfm#25 > Of course, the Merriam-Webster dictionary said an initialism is an ^^^^^^^^^^ ^^^^^^^^^^ > acronym made up of the initial letters of a set of words. ^^^^^^^ ^^^^^^^ By the way, according to the New Oxford Dictionary of English (Pearsall, 1998), an initialism is "an abbreviation consisting of initial letters pronounced separately (e.g. BBC)." As its etymology also shows (onyma ~ name), an acronym is a word. How can an initialism be an acronym, ie a "word"? :-) In "A Comprehensive Grammar of the English Language", by Quirk, Greenbaum, Leech and Svartvik, Longman, 1985, the authors distinguish (cf clipping, acronyms, blends, and in particular I.75): 1)
acronyms which are pronounced as a sequence of letters (also called 'alphabetisms'), eg C.O.D, are most like ordinary abbreviations and hence most peripheral to word-formation. In writing, the more institutionalized formations have no period between the letters. The use of capitals is not determined solely by whether the items abbreviated are proper nouns.
2)
acronyms which are pronounced as a word, eg NATO, are often used without our knowing what the letters stand for.
IIRC, "alphabetism", a (comparatively rare) technical term, was first used by David Crystal. An on-line example can be found at: http://www.ling.nwu.edu/~jbh/a10/morph2.html. This page contains a further distinction (alphabetism vs. acronym). In this connection, the alt.usage.english FAQ file may be an interesting reading (eg the DISPUTES section). It can be retrieved at http://www.ucle.org/aue/full_faq_with_int_links.shtml#tcrecomm. Another couple of on-line references: http://www.ucc.ie/info/net/acronyms/acro.html and in particular, http://www.ucc.ie/cgi-bin/acronym?IDE (!) :-) As you can see, the definitions given by dictionaries -- including the ones I quoted in an earlier post -- tend to simplify the matter. Rather than create an "initialism" or "alphabetism" tag, the "best" policy might be to use the acronym tag in order to cover both cases. FreeBSD documentation is not intended for linguists; besides, great linguists/scholars, such as Quirk, Greenbaum, Leech and Svartvik, do use "acronym" in a general sense. That's just my .02 Euro. Incidentally, there may be a... geographical issue. For instance, in Italy, IDE is pronounced as a word, so it's an acronym in the strict sense of the, er, word. :-) -- Salvo To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sun Aug 26 8:20:13 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mta03-svc.ntlworld.com (mta03-svc.ntlworld.com [62.253.162.43]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5966737B401 for ; Sun, 26 Aug 2001 08:20:03 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tom@FreeBSD.org) Received: from eborcom.com ([62.253.85.80]) by mta03-svc.ntlworld.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.00 201-229-121) with SMTP id <20010826151954.QJKK23687.mta03-svc.ntlworld.com@eborcom.com> for ; Sun, 26 Aug 2001 16:19:54 +0100 Received: (qmail 63065 invoked by uid 1001); 26 Aug 2001 15:18:58 -0000 Date: Sun, 26 Aug 2001 16:18:58 +0100 From: Tom Hukins To: Peter Pentchev Cc: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org, doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: NOPORTDOCS and make package Message-ID: <20010826161858.A62947@eborcom.com> Mail-Followup-To: Tom Hukins , Peter Pentchev , freebsd-ports@freebsd.org, doc@freebsd.org References: <20010824121353.A1047@shall.anarcat.dyndns.org> <20010824193300.C532@ringworld.oblivion.bg> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="82I3+IH0IqGh5yIs" Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <20010824193300.C532@ringworld.oblivion.bg>; from roam@ringlet.net on Fri, Aug 24, 2001 at 07:33:00PM +0300 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org --82I3+IH0IqGh5yIs Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline On Fri, Aug 24, 2001 at 07:33:00PM +0300, Peter Pentchev wrote: > > Put %%PORTDOCS%% before each file which is installed conditionally > depending on the NOPORTDOCS knob. Look at e.g. ftp/pure-ftpd for > an example. This isn't mentioned in the Porter's Handbook. If nobody objects to the patch I'm sending with this message, I'll apply it in the next few days. Thanks, Tom --82I3+IH0IqGh5yIs Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="porters-handbook.patch" --- book.sgml.was Sun Aug 26 07:25:23 2001 +++ book.sgml Sun Aug 26 16:15:31 2001 @@ -3251,10 +3251,13 @@ ${INSTALL_MAN} ${WRKSRC}/docs/xvdocs.ps ${PREFIX}/share/doc/xv .endif - Do not forget to add them to pkg-plist too. - (Do not worry about NOPORTDOCS here; there is - currently no way for the packages to read variables from - /etc/make.conf.) + Documentation should be included in + pkg-plist with the + %%NOPORTDOCS%% prefix, for + example: + + %%PORTDOCS%%share/doc/pure-ftpd/AUTHORS +%%PORTDOCS%%share/doc/pure-ftpd/CONTACT You can also use the pkg-message file to display messages upon installation. See the Date: Sun, 26 Aug 2001 08:40:55 -0700 From: unsafe at any speed User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.0; en-US; rv:0.9.3+) Gecko/20010825 X-Accept-Language: en-us MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Warner Losh Cc: mobile@FreeBSD.ORG, doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: MFC: ISA routing support References: <200108260507.f7Q570W08734@harmony.village.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Works on the Thinkpad 560X! For some reason I'm getting IRQs that aren't in my /etc/pccard.conf assigned to my cards (15, 13), but I'm hoping that's because my world is a few days out of date. Am building world now... Thanks yet again for all your work on this, Warner. This must have been really frustrating for you. Eric Hedstrom erich@ucsd.edu Warner Losh wrote: > [[doc is cc'd so that they can put this in the right release-noteish place]] > > I've implmented the first cut of ISA routing support for PCI devices. > There are just too many machines that FreeBSD can't seem to use their > PCIBIOS to route interrupts :-(. > > So, if you CVSUP after 2001/08/26 04:48:47 GMT (well, give the mirrors > some time to propigate), you will have the following option. > > If your laptop cannot route PCI interrupts with FreeBSD's current > interrupt routing scheme, please use ISA interrupts. To enable ISA > interrupts, you need to set two tunables. A tunable is generally set > in /boot/loader.conf by adding a line that says: > tunable="value" > They may also be set, for testing purposes, at the "ok" command line > prompt using the set command: > ok set tunable="value" > > The first tunable is "hw.pcic.intr_path". Setting this to 1 will > force the PCI pcic attachment to use ISA routing. It has no effect on > the ISA pcic attachment. Almost all will be configured as it was > before. However, since you cannot set irq values for pci interrupts, > the second tunable "hw.pcic.irq" is used. This tunable sets which IRQ > to use for the CSC (aka management) interrupt. 0 is polling, and the > recommended value. Systems with two slots must currently use polling > mode (this will be fixed soon, btw). Systems with one slot may elect > to use an interrupt for the CSC. > > Summary: > To put things into ISA mode, add the following two lines to > /boot/loader.conf: > hw.pcic.intr_path=1 > hw.pcic.irq=0 > Add free IRQs to /etc/pccard.conf for cards to use. > > I was successful at using this on my pc98 laptop that doesn't have a > PIR table, and likely won't be able to route interrupts properly > (since the cbus-pci bridge chip is thinly documented at best). I was > able to use a 3C589E and commit using the new kernel from this box. > > Most of this information is contained in the new pcic.4 man page. > > Those of you having problems with the PCI BIOS interrupt routing, or > if you have a CL-PD6729 or '6730 in your laptop, please try to use ISA > path for the interrupts and let me know if it works or fails. If you > have a pccardd built from sources that are newer than August 21, you > can just boot test kernels with that pccardd and things should work. > (cardd.c revision 1.46.2.14 is the good version, it works with both > old (back to at least 4.2) and new kernels). > > I'll put together a web form with all the information I'll need for > bug reports tomorrow or monday. I gotta write my USENIX paper on this > whole experience still. > > Warner > > P.S. Please accept my profuse appologies for the high rate of change > in pccard in -stable. Given the long shakeout time in -current I > thought that there wouldn't be near this many issues. > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-mobile" in the body of the message > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sun Aug 26 8:53: 5 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from rover.village.org (rover.bsdimp.com [204.144.255.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1CE0437B40A; Sun, 26 Aug 2001 08:53:01 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from imp@harmony.village.org) Received: from harmony.village.org (harmony.village.org [10.0.0.6]) by rover.village.org (8.11.3/8.11.3) with ESMTP id f7QFqxq62621; Sun, 26 Aug 2001 09:53:00 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from imp@harmony.village.org) Received: from harmony.village.org (localhost.village.org [127.0.0.1]) by harmony.village.org (8.11.3/8.11.4) with ESMTP id f7QFqxW11288; Sun, 26 Aug 2001 09:52:59 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from imp@harmony.village.org) Message-Id: <200108261552.f7QFqxW11288@harmony.village.org> To: unsafe at any speed Subject: Re: MFC: ISA routing support Cc: mobile@FreeBSD.ORG, doc@FreeBSD.ORG In-reply-to: Your message of "Sun, 26 Aug 2001 08:40:55 PDT." <3B891887.2060908@ucsd.edu> References: <3B891887.2060908@ucsd.edu> <200108260507.f7Q570W08734@harmony.village.org> Date: Sun, 26 Aug 2001 09:52:59 -0600 From: Warner Losh Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org In message <3B891887.2060908@ucsd.edu> unsafe at any speed writes: : Works on the Thinkpad 560X! : For some reason I'm getting IRQs that aren't in my /etc/pccard.conf : assigned to my cards (15, 13), but I'm hoping that's because my world is : a few days out of date. Am building world now... Sounds like an out of date pccardd. Rebuild a new one :-) : Thanks yet again for all your work on this, Warner. This must have been : really frustrating for you. Tell me about it. Warner To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sun Aug 26 9: 3:14 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from hex.databits.net (hex.databits.net [207.29.192.16]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 46D5037B40A for ; Sun, 26 Aug 2001 09:03:09 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from petef@hex.databits.net) Received: (qmail 95340 invoked by uid 1001); 26 Aug 2001 16:03:04 -0000 Date: Sun, 26 Aug 2001 12:03:04 -0400 From: Pete Fritchman To: Tom Hukins Cc: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org, doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: NOPORTDOCS and make package Message-ID: <20010826120304.A94436@databits.net> References: <20010824121353.A1047@shall.anarcat.dyndns.org> <20010824193300.C532@ringworld.oblivion.bg> <20010826161858.A62947@eborcom.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <20010826161858.A62947@eborcom.com>; from tom@FreeBSD.org on Sun, Aug 26, 2001 at 04:18:58PM +0100 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org ++ 26/08/01 16:18 +0100 - Tom Hukins: | the patch I'm sending with this message, I'll apply it in the next few | days. | | Thanks, | Tom | + Documentation should be included in | + pkg-plist with the | + %%NOPORTDOCS%% prefix, for ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ %%PORTDOCS%% | + example: | + | + %%PORTDOCS%%share/doc/pure-ftpd/AUTHORS | +%%PORTDOCS%%share/doc/pure-ftpd/CONTACT | | You can also use the pkg-message file to | display messages upon installation. See the finger petef@databits.net for PGP key To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sun Aug 26 9:29:14 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mta05-svc.ntlworld.com (mta05-svc.ntlworld.com [62.253.162.45]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C1CE237B406 for ; Sun, 26 Aug 2001 09:29:06 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tom@FreeBSD.org) Received: from eborcom.com ([62.255.97.103]) by mta05-svc.ntlworld.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.00 201-229-121) with SMTP id <20010826162901.DDAW20588.mta05-svc.ntlworld.com@eborcom.com> for ; Sun, 26 Aug 2001 17:29:01 +0100 Received: (qmail 63495 invoked by uid 1001); 26 Aug 2001 16:28:08 -0000 Date: Sun, 26 Aug 2001 17:28:08 +0100 From: Tom Hukins To: Pete Fritchman Cc: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org, doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: NOPORTDOCS and make package Message-ID: <20010826172808.A63257@eborcom.com> Mail-Followup-To: Tom Hukins , Pete Fritchman , freebsd-ports@freebsd.org, doc@freebsd.org References: <20010824121353.A1047@shall.anarcat.dyndns.org> <20010824193300.C532@ringworld.oblivion.bg> <20010826161858.A62947@eborcom.com> <20010826120304.A94436@databits.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="rwEMma7ioTxnRzrJ" Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <20010826120304.A94436@databits.net>; from petef@databits.net on Sun, Aug 26, 2001 at 12:03:04PM -0400 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org --rwEMma7ioTxnRzrJ Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline On Sun, Aug 26, 2001 at 12:03:04PM -0400, Pete Fritchman wrote: > ++ 26/08/01 16:18 +0100 - Tom Hukins: > | + Documentation should be included in > | + pkg-plist with the > | + %%NOPORTDOCS%% prefix, for > ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ > %%PORTDOCS%% Thanks! > | + %%PORTDOCS%%share/doc/pure-ftpd/AUTHORS > | +%%PORTDOCS%%share/doc/pure-ftpd/CONTACT > > Maybe something should be mentioned about prefixing @dirrm's with this > too? I think that's a good idea. I'm attaching an updated patch which deals with these issues. Tom --rwEMma7ioTxnRzrJ Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="porters-handbook.patch" --- book.sgml.was Sun Aug 26 07:25:23 2001 +++ book.sgml Sun Aug 26 17:25:12 2001 @@ -3251,10 +3251,13 @@ ${INSTALL_MAN} ${WRKSRC}/docs/xvdocs.ps ${PREFIX}/share/doc/xv .endif - Do not forget to add them to pkg-plist too. - (Do not worry about NOPORTDOCS here; there is - currently no way for the packages to read variables from - /etc/make.conf.) + Documentation should be included in + pkg-plist with the + %%PORTDOCS%% prefix, for example: + + %%PORTDOCS%%share/doc/pure-ftpd/AUTHORS +%%PORTDOCS%%share/doc/pure-ftpd/CONTACT +%%PORTDOCS%%@dirrm share/doc/pure-ftpd You can also use the pkg-message file to display messages upon installation. See the ; Sun, 26 Aug 2001 10:50:05 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.11.4/8.11.4) id f7QHo5M26819; Sun, 26 Aug 2001 10:50:05 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats) Received: from postfix1-2.free.fr (postfix1-2.free.fr [213.228.0.130]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6144237B40C for ; Sun, 26 Aug 2001 10:43:41 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from rsidd@lpt.ens.fr) Received: from bluerondo.a.la.turk (nas-cbv-4-25-81.dial.proxad.net [213.228.25.81]) by postfix1-2.free.fr (Postfix) with SMTP id 939F0AB21D for ; Sun, 26 Aug 2001 19:43:35 +0200 (CEST) Received: (qmail 1225 invoked by uid 1001); 26 Aug 2001 17:37:55 -0000 Message-Id: <20010826173755.1224.qmail@bluerondo.a.la.turk> Date: 26 Aug 2001 17:37:55 -0000 From: Rahul Siddharthan Reply-To: Rahul Siddharthan To: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@freebsd.org X-Send-Pr-Version: 3.113 Subject: docs/30110: Developers handbook/tools: updated information Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org >Number: 30110 >Category: docs >Synopsis: Developers handbook/tools: updated information >Confidential: no >Severity: non-critical >Priority: low >Responsible: freebsd-doc >State: open >Quarter: >Keywords: >Date-Required: >Class: update >Submitter-Id: current-users >Arrival-Date: Sun Aug 26 10:50:01 PDT 2001 >Closed-Date: >Last-Modified: >Originator: Rahul Siddharthan >Release: FreeBSD 4.4-PRERELEASE i386 >Organization: >Environment: >Description: There is some slightly outdated info in the "tools" section of the developers' handbook, which says there are no Pascal compilers and no IDE's on FreeBSD. >How-To-Repeat: >Fix: Patch for developers-handbook/tools/chapter.sgml *** chapter.sgml Sun Aug 26 19:29:36 2001 --- chapter.sgml.new Sun Aug 26 19:32:36 2001 *************** *** 262,277 **** are rather unforgiving languages, and best suited to more experienced programmers; Pascal, on the other hand, was designed as an educational language, and is quite a good ! language to start with. Unfortunately, FreeBSD doesn't have ! any Pascal support, except for a Pascal-to-C converter in the ! ports. As the edit-compile-run-debug cycle is rather tedious when using separate programs, many commercial compiler makers have produced Integrated Development Environments (IDEs for short). FreeBSD does not have an ! IDE as such; however it is possible to use Emacs for this purpose. This is discussed in . --- 262,278 ---- are rather unforgiving languages, and best suited to more experienced programmers; Pascal, on the other hand, was designed as an educational language, and is quite a good ! language to start with. FreeBSD doesn't have any Pascal support ! in the base system, but the GNU Pascal compiler (gpc) is ! available in the ports. As the edit-compile-run-debug cycle is rather tedious when using separate programs, many commercial compiler makers have produced Integrated Development Environments (IDEs for short). FreeBSD does not have an ! IDE as such (though some, such as kdevelop, ! are in the ports); however it is possible to use Emacs for this purpose. This is discussed in . *************** *** 1615,1622 **** have. ! At least, not unless you pay out very large sums of ! money. However, it is possible to set up your own environment. It --- 1616,1623 ---- have. ! Some IDEs now exist, though; for example, kdevelop, in ! the ports. However, it is possible to set up your own environment. It >Release-Note: >Audit-Trail: >Unformatted: To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sun Aug 26 12:10:59 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from toole.uol.com.br (toole.uol.com.br [200.231.206.186]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 787A937B408 for ; Sun, 26 Aug 2001 12:10:53 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from lioux@uol.com.br) Received: from 200.181.49.104 ([200.181.49.104]) by toole.uol.com.br (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id QAA16970 for ; Sun, 26 Aug 2001 16:08:52 -0300 (BRT) Received: (qmail 53924 invoked by uid 1001); 26 Aug 2001 16:11:00 -0000 From: "Mario Sergio Fujikawa Ferreira" Date: Sun, 26 Aug 2001 16:10:38 +0000 To: Tom Hukins Cc: Pete Fritchman , freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG, doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: NOPORTDOCS and make package Message-ID: <20010826161038.A53859@exxodus.fedaykin.here> References: <20010824121353.A1047@shall.anarcat.dyndns.org> <20010824193300.C532@ringworld.oblivion.bg> <20010826161858.A62947@eborcom.com> <20010826120304.A94436@databits.net> <20010826172808.A63257@eborcom.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <20010826172808.A63257@eborcom.com>; from tom@FreeBSD.ORG on Sun, Aug 26, 2001 at 05:27:46PM +0100 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Sun, Aug 26, 2001 at 05:27:46PM +0100, Tom Hukins wrote: > On Sun, Aug 26, 2001 at 12:03:04PM -0400, Pete Fritchman wrote: > > ++ 26/08/01 16:18 +0100 - Tom Hukins: > > | + Documentation should be included in > > | + pkg-plist with the > > | + %%NOPORTDOCS%% prefix, for > > ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ > > %%PORTDOCS%% > > Thanks! > > > | + %%PORTDOCS%%share/doc/pure-ftpd/AUTHORS > > | +%%PORTDOCS%%share/doc/pure-ftpd/CONTACT > > > > Maybe something should be mentioned about prefixing @dirrm's with this > > too? > > I think that's a good idea. I'm attaching an updated patch which > deals with these issues. I should have spoken sooner but the wording should be something like: Inside pkg-plist, all documentation related lines should be prefixed with %%PORTDOCS%% which makes them conditional to NOPORTDOCS variable, for example: %%PORTDOCS%%share/doc/pure-ftpd/AUTHORS %%PORTDOCS%%share/doc/pure-ftpd/CONTACT %%PORTDOCS%%@dirrm share/doc/pure-ftpd %%PORTDOCS%%@unexec rmdir share/doc 2>/dev/null || true Needs help in the wording but the idea is there. Regards, > --- book.sgml.was Sun Aug 26 07:25:23 2001 > +++ book.sgml Sun Aug 26 17:25:12 2001 > @@ -3251,10 +3251,13 @@ > ${INSTALL_MAN} ${WRKSRC}/docs/xvdocs.ps ${PREFIX}/share/doc/xv > .endif > > - Do not forget to add them to pkg-plist too. > - (Do not worry about NOPORTDOCS here; there is > - currently no way for the packages to read variables from > - /etc/make.conf.) > + Documentation should be included in > + pkg-plist with the > + %%PORTDOCS%% prefix, for example: > + > + %%PORTDOCS%%share/doc/pure-ftpd/AUTHORS > +%%PORTDOCS%%share/doc/pure-ftpd/CONTACT > +%%PORTDOCS%%@dirrm share/doc/pure-ftpd > > You can also use the pkg-message file to > display messages upon installation. See the ; Sun, 26 Aug 2001 12:22:34 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from roam@ringlet.net) Received: (qmail 1383 invoked by uid 1000); 26 Aug 2001 19:20:58 -0000 Date: Sun, 26 Aug 2001 22:20:58 +0300 From: Peter Pentchev To: Tom Hukins Cc: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org, doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: NOPORTDOCS and make package Message-ID: <20010826222058.A1299@ringworld.oblivion.bg> Mail-Followup-To: Tom Hukins , freebsd-ports@freebsd.org, doc@freebsd.org References: <20010824121353.A1047@shall.anarcat.dyndns.org> <20010824193300.C532@ringworld.oblivion.bg> <20010826161858.A62947@eborcom.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <20010826161858.A62947@eborcom.com>; from tom@FreeBSD.org on Sun, Aug 26, 2001 at 04:18:58PM +0100 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Sun, Aug 26, 2001 at 04:18:58PM +0100, Tom Hukins wrote: > On Fri, Aug 24, 2001 at 07:33:00PM +0300, Peter Pentchev wrote: > > > > Put %%PORTDOCS%% before each file which is installed conditionally > > depending on the NOPORTDOCS knob. Look at e.g. ftp/pure-ftpd for > > an example. > > This isn't mentioned in the Porter's Handbook. If nobody objects to > the patch I'm sending with this message, I'll apply it in the next few > days. Looks good! G'luck, Peter -- This sentence claims to be an Epimenides paradox, but it is lying. > --- book.sgml.was Sun Aug 26 07:25:23 2001 > +++ book.sgml Sun Aug 26 16:15:31 2001 > @@ -3251,10 +3251,13 @@ > ${INSTALL_MAN} ${WRKSRC}/docs/xvdocs.ps ${PREFIX}/share/doc/xv > .endif > > - Do not forget to add them to pkg-plist too. > - (Do not worry about NOPORTDOCS here; there is > - currently no way for the packages to read variables from > - /etc/make.conf.) > + Documentation should be included in > + pkg-plist with the > + %%NOPORTDOCS%% prefix, for > + example: > + > + %%PORTDOCS%%share/doc/pure-ftpd/AUTHORS > +%%PORTDOCS%%share/doc/pure-ftpd/CONTACT > > You can also use the pkg-message file to > display messages upon installation. See the To: unsafe at any speed Subject: Re: MFC: ISA routing support Cc: mobile@FreeBSD.ORG, doc@FreeBSD.ORG In-reply-to: Your message of "Sun, 26 Aug 2001 08:40:55 PDT." <3B891887.2060908@ucsd.edu> References: <3B891887.2060908@ucsd.edu> <200108260507.f7Q570W08734@harmony.village.org> Date: Sun, 26 Aug 2001 14:46:36 -0600 From: Warner Losh Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org In message <3B891887.2060908@ucsd.edu> unsafe at any speed writes: : For some reason I'm getting IRQs that aren't in my /etc/pccard.conf : assigned to my cards (15, 13), but I'm hoping that's because my world is : a few days out of date. Am building world now... That's likely why. pccardd was changed a couple of days ago to support ISA systems. When you are using ISA interrupts on a pci device, you are on an ISA system for the purposes of pccardd's interrupt routing. Warner To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sun Aug 26 16: 8:59 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mail.freebsd.org (host-64-110-64-19.interpacket.net [64.110.64.19]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id E8B3537B40E for ; Sun, 26 Aug 2001 16:08:50 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from sa_abacha@hotmail.com) From: mallam@FreeBSD.ORG, Sadiq@FreeBSD.ORG, Abacha@FreeBSD.ORG Date: Mon, 27 Aug 2001 00:11:59 To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Subject: URGENT CALL FOR HELP MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <20010826230850.E8B3537B40E@hub.freebsd.org> Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org MALLAM SADIQ ABACHA Dear Sir, BUSINESS PROPOSAL: TRANSFER OF US$41.5 M (FORTY-ONE MILLION, FIVE HUNDRED THOUSAND UNITED STATES DOLLARS). First, I must solicit your strictest confidence in this transaction, this is by virtue of it's nature as being utterly confidential and top secret as you were introduced to my family in confidence by a mutual acquaintance in the Nigerian Chamber of Commerce(foreign Trade Division). He does not however know the nature and extent of what I am about to introduce to you.. I am one of the sons of the late Nigerian head of state, General Sani Abacha. I wish to contact you on transfer business involving US$41.5M. Shortly after the death of my father, my mother, Mrs Marian Abacha managed to smuggled this fund (US$41.5M) in cash with the aid of senior officials of the Central Bank of Nigeria via deplomatic passage to one of the European countries. This fund is deposited in a secret financial company's vault awaiting claim upon presentation of ownership details which include the access code and the deplomatic airway bill. The funds can equally be moved from Europe to any country of your choice that is secure and has banking correspondence with the Central Bank of Nigeria. Before proceeding further, I would not fail to tell you that since the death of my father, the government of my country has subjected our family to solitary confinement, which I believe is the most traumatic punisment that can be inflicted on anyone. Our movement has been restricted and all our travelling document seized.We are also placed on strict surveillance. My father and our individual's money in both local and foreign bank accounts have been confiscated by this same government with the assistance of some foreign governments where these funds were deposited.Presently my elder brother, Mohammed is currently facing trial in law court. He has been accused of privy to death of some prominent Nigerians. This accusation of the government is based on the falsified loot alligation levelled against my father of public funds during his era. For fear of any possible discovery of the fund by our government, we are therefore soliciting intrested partner who will front for us, clear the fund from the security company and provide a reliable account in oversea for it accommodation, then claim the beneficiary pending when we shall be able to travel. We have agreed give you 30% of the total fund for your assistance. Should there be any expense incurred by you in the course of this transaction, after it's successful completion, 10% will be deducted from the total fund for the reimbursement before the balance amount could be shared according the percentage. Please note again that this transaction is strictly confidential and as such should be kept secret.Be rest assured that this transaction is 100% risk free as all modalities have been put in place for a smooth and successful conclusion. However, should you be intrested in assisting us, I will not hesistate to furnish you with the access code of the secret account, code which you will present at the security company in Europe. Moreso with this code, you will able to verify and acquire all the necessary information regarding the fund before clearing from the Bank vault and subsequent transfer to your designated bank account either by telegraphice transfer or through cash call programme. Lastly, we are also intrested in a joint venture with our share of the fund in any profitable business pending when we gain the liberty to travel out of the country. I expect your prompt and positive response through my personal tel/fax 234-1774-9158 Yours faithfully, Mallam Sadiq Abacha To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sun Aug 26 16:33:33 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mail.bfm.org (mail.bfm.org [216.127.218.26]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B430837B405 for ; Sun, 26 Aug 2001 16:33:30 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from adam@whizkidtech.net) Received: from WhizKid (r8.bfm.org [216.127.220.104]) by mail.bfm.org (Post.Office MTA v3.5.3 release 223 ID# 0-52399U2500L250S0V35) with SMTP id org for ; Sun, 26 Aug 2001 18:38:11 -0500 Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.20010826183320.0087f560@mail85.pair.com> X-Sender: whizkid@mail85.pair.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.6 (32) Date: Sun, 26 Aug 2001 18:33:20 -0500 To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org From: "G. Adam Stanislav" Subject: Re: URGENT CALL FOR HELP In-Reply-To: <20010826230850.E8B3537B40E@hub.freebsd.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org At 00:11 2001-08-27, mallam@FreeBSD.ORG, Sadiq@FreeBSD.ORG, Abacha@FreeBSD.ORG wrote: >MALLAM SADIQ ABACHA > >Dear Sir, > >BUSINESS PROPOSAL: TRANSFER OF US$41.5 M (FORTY-ONE MILLION, FIVE HUNDRED THOUSAND UNITED STATES DOLLARS). Lest anyone fall for this dangerous scam, here is a link to what the US Secret Service has to say about it: http://www.ustreas.gov/usss/index.htm?alert419.htm&1 Adam --- http://DropShipWhiz.com/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Mon Aug 27 7:21:20 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (pc-62-31-42-140-hy.blueyonder.co.uk [62.31.42.140]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E4A0E37B409 for ; Mon, 27 Aug 2001 07:21:15 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nik@nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk) Received: (from nik@localhost) by nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (8.11.3/8.11.3) id f7REIYl25903; Mon, 27 Aug 2001 15:18:34 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from nik) Date: Mon, 27 Aug 2001 15:18:34 +0100 From: Nik Clayton To: "G. Adam Stanislav" Cc: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: URGENT CALL FOR HELP Message-ID: <20010827151834.D46201@clan.nothing-going-on.org> References: <20010826230850.E8B3537B40E@hub.freebsd.org> <3.0.6.32.20010826183320.0087f560@mail85.pair.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-md5; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="NtwzykIc2mflq5ck" Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <3.0.6.32.20010826183320.0087f560@mail85.pair.com>; from adam@whizkidtech.net on Sun, Aug 26, 2001 at 06:33:20PM -0500 Organization: FreeBSD Project Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org --NtwzykIc2mflq5ck Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sun, Aug 26, 2001 at 06:33:20PM -0500, G. Adam Stanislav wrote: > At 00:11 2001-08-27, mallam@FreeBSD.ORG, Sadiq@FreeBSD.ORG, > Abacha@FreeBSD.ORG wrote: > >MALLAM SADIQ ABACHA =20 > =20 > >Dear Sir, > > > >BUSINESS PROPOSAL: TRANSFER OF US$41.5 M (FORTY-ONE MILLION, FIVE HUNDRED > THOUSAND UNITED STATES DOLLARS).=20 >=20 > Lest anyone fall for this dangerous scam, here is a link to what the > US Secret Service has to say about it: >=20 > http://www.ustreas.gov/usss/index.htm?alert419.htm&1 And if anyone wants a good laugh, I strongly suggest they check out http://www.buddyweiserman.com/ N --=20 FreeBSD: The Power to Serve http://www.freebsd.org/ FreeBSD Documentation Project http://www.freebsd.org/docproj/ --- 15B8 3FFC DDB4 34B0 AA5F 94B7 93A8 0764 2C37 E375 --- --NtwzykIc2mflq5ck Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (FreeBSD) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iEYEARECAAYFAjuKVroACgkQk6gHZCw343XrkQCghNZ7GQyVfYN7XZxevwZJEXvU BoUAn0vNzzxIejzWHybXEH9AtuQsrUAq =hyaU -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --NtwzykIc2mflq5ck-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Mon Aug 27 11: 0:43 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5B3FE37B401 for ; Mon, 27 Aug 2001 11:00:23 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-bugmaster@freebsd.org) Received: (from peter@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.11.4/8.11.4) id f7RI0MI31468 for freebsd-doc@freebsd.org; Mon, 27 Aug 2001 11:00:22 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-bugmaster@freebsd.org) Date: Mon, 27 Aug 2001 11:00:22 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <200108271800.f7RI0MI31468@freefall.freebsd.org> X-Authentication-Warning: freefall.freebsd.org: peter set sender to owner-bugmaster@freebsd.org using -f From: FreeBSD bugmaster To: FreeBSD doc list Subject: Current unassigned doc problem reports Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Current FreeBSD problem reports The following is a listing of current problems submitted by FreeBSD users. These represent problem reports covering all versions including experimental development code and obsolete releases. Bugs can be in one of several states: o - open A problem report has been submitted, no sanity checking performed. a - analyzed The report has been examined by a team member and evaluated. f - feedback The problem has been solved, and the originator has been given a patch or a fix has been committed. The PR remains in this state pending a response from the originator. s - suspended The problem is not being worked on. This is a prime candidate for somebody who is looking for a project to do. If the problem cannot be solved at all, it will be closed, rather than suspended. c - closed A problem report is closed when any changes have been integrated, documented, and tested. Critical problems Serious problems S Submitted Tracker Resp. Description ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- o [2000/07/18] docs/20028 doc ASCII docs should reflect tags o [2000/12/28] docs/23910 doc Handbook Chapter 14. Sound -- some fixes o [2001/05/23] docs/27605 doc Cross-document references () o [2001/08/07] docs/29511 doc Handbook missing some "Loader Built-In Co o [2001/08/07] docs/29515 doc Handbook references missing *.bat install o [2001/08/07] docs/29534 doc syscons(4), sc(4) reference non-existant o [2001/08/17] docs/29842 doc Stilted language and improper puncuation 7 problems total. Non-critical problems S Submitted Tracker Resp. Description ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- o [1999/04/07] docs/10997 doc Problem with query-pr-summary.cgi o [1999/10/06] docs/14158 doc md5(1) manpage should not claim the md5 a o [1999/10/27] docs/14565 doc ioctl() codes for device type `fd' (flopp o [2000/04/03] kern/17774 doc stray irq7 o [2000/06/05] docs/19010 doc Bad144 obsoletion by 4.0 is undocumented; f [2000/07/17] docs/19981 doc Indonesian translations o [2000/08/04] docs/20400 doc Building a kernel with debugging info sec o [2000/08/10] docs/20528 doc sysconf(3) manpage doesn't mention posix. o [2000/08/20] docs/20738 doc correction and modification to clocks(7) o [2000/10/10] docs/21896 doc Mini-HOWTO for stp driver s [2000/11/01] docs/22470 doc man 3 msgrcv's BUGS section needs updatin o [2000/12/11] docs/23488 doc A manpage for section 7 regarding a Toron o [2001/01/02] docs/24035 doc ptrace(2) PT_STEP incorrect documentation o [2001/01/26] docs/24662 doc too many questions about source managemen o [2001/02/01] docs/24786 doc missing FILES descriptions in sa(4) o [2001/02/06] docs/24923 doc 4.2 Release Errata page has no informatio o [2001/02/11] docs/25000 doc matcd(4) SYNOPSIS is wrong a [2001/02/20] docs/25239 doc fdp-primer/tools/chapter.sgml says about o [2001/02/26] docs/25392 doc Chapter 9 pages could use 'location of fu o [2001/02/27] docs/25437 doc kernel configs are the only precious file o [2001/03/16] docs/25876 doc typos in jail.2 o [2001/03/19] docs/25919 doc supported hardware list says 'no' for Sou o [2001/03/22] docs/26001 doc typo in sched_get_priority_max.2 f [2001/03/22] docs/26003 doc getgroups(2) lists NGROUPS_MAX but not sy o [2001/03/22] docs/26006 doc Changing zone(9) man page o [2001/04/02] docs/26286 doc *printf(3) etc should gain format string o [2001/04/08] docs/26451 doc ctype.h defined functions are not accurat o [2001/04/10] docs/26489 doc incomplete info in the ppp faq about "PPP o [2001/04/21] misc/26742 doc misleading information in handbook o [2001/04/25] docs/26861 doc accept(2) manpage documents non-existant o [2001/05/02] docs/27027 doc Update src/share/misc/iso639 o [2001/05/02] docs/27040 doc rc(8) and syscons(4) talk about rc.conf.l o [2001/05/08] docs/27209 doc [PATCH] ascii.7 table rearrangement and u o [2001/05/14] docs/27320 doc excessively vague information in pppoe pa o [2001/05/18] docs/27430 doc Addition to the doc/sr_YU/articles tree o [2001/05/25] docs/27653 doc Updates to send-pr.html to support MIME o [2001/05/26] docs/27654 doc Update to PR 27653 o [2001/05/29] docs/27758 doc ptrace(2) man page outdated o [2001/06/02] docs/27833 doc No man page for locate.rc o [2001/06/02] docs/27843 doc [PATCH] make.conf WITH_* variables aren't o [2001/06/06] docs/27915 doc man 5 passwd does not properly explain th o [2001/06/09] docs/28000 doc adding and changing information in vidcon s [2001/06/14] docs/28144 doc no manpage for host.conf, no xrefs in oth o [2001/06/20] docs/28306 doc docbook.css and OBJDIR o [2001/06/30] docs/28555 doc [PATCH] style(9) isn't explicit about boo o [2001/07/03] docs/28679 doc Images in handbook/advanced-networking mi o [2001/07/04] docs/28699 doc strptime(3) %d format specifier not compl o [2001/07/13] docs/28949 doc the mknod(8) man page stills refers to bl o [2001/07/22] docs/29143 doc List of man pages that need to be written o [2001/07/23] docs/29182 doc Handbook needs to be updated to reflect s o [2001/07/25] docs/29216 doc Updated the cvsup addresses for the UK o [2001/07/26] docs/29245 doc top(1) manpage doesn't understand SMP o [2001/08/03] docs/29410 doc More about RELENG_4_3 in FAQ o [2001/08/07] docs/29500 doc Handbook uses obsolete "controller" and " o [2001/08/07] docs/29505 doc kbdmap(1) Bugs section is for wrong comma o [2001/08/07] docs/29506 doc kbdmap(1) doesn't explain that cmd is int o [2001/08/07] docs/29517 doc Handbook missing fast method of cleaning o [2001/08/07] docs/29522 doc Handbook: A few changes related to cvsup o [2001/08/07] docs/29525 doc hier(7) has sometimes-erroneous descripti o [2001/08/07] docs/29531 doc FreeBSD.org site's PR form doesn't match o [2001/08/09] docs/29560 doc make buildkernel as described in the hand o [2001/08/09] docs/29571 doc [PATCH] No man page for pgrp kernel funct o [2001/08/12] docs/29657 doc NICE_HEADERS conflicts with authorgroup g o [2001/08/15] docs/29740 doc [PATCH] Setting WRKDIRPREFIX=/usr/obj is o [2001/08/15] docs/29744 doc [PATCH] SGML tags and entities in the "Di o [2001/08/17] docs/29803 doc Handbook section on KDM: update for KDE 2 o [2001/08/17] docs/29807 doc [PATCH] XFREE86_VERSION is undocumented o [2001/08/18] docs/29848 doc Handbook Chapter 13 (Backups) minor chang o [2001/08/23] docs/30008 doc This document should be translated, comme o [2001/08/24] docs/30062 doc [PATCH] The description of disk, slices a o [2001/08/24] docs/30068 doc is more appropriate to /dev/ o [2001/08/24] docs/30069 doc netstat man page doesn't describe the mea o [2001/08/25] docs/30082 doc Dead URL on website o [2001/08/25] docs/30092 doc A typo in the the docs o [2001/08/26] docs/30110 doc Developers handbook/tools: updated inform 75 problems total. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Mon Aug 27 12:28:35 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mail.bfm.org (mail.bfm.org [216.127.218.26]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9CA7B37B406; Mon, 27 Aug 2001 12:28:32 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from adam@whizkidtech.net) Received: from WhizKid (r16.bfm.org [216.127.220.112]) by mail.bfm.org (Post.Office MTA v3.5.3 release 223 ID# 0-52399U2500L250S0V35) with SMTP id org; Mon, 27 Aug 2001 14:33:34 -0500 Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.20010827142819.0089ed20@mail85.pair.com> X-Sender: whizkid@mail85.pair.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.6 (32) Date: Mon, 27 Aug 2001 14:28:19 -0500 To: Nik Clayton From: "G. Adam Stanislav" Subject: Re: URGENT CALL FOR HELP Cc: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <20010827151834.D46201@clan.nothing-going-on.org> References: <3.0.6.32.20010826183320.0087f560@mail85.pair.com> <20010826230850.E8B3537B40E@hub.freebsd.org> <3.0.6.32.20010826183320.0087f560@mail85.pair.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org At 15:18 2001-08-27 +0100, Nik Clayton wrote: >And if anyone wants a good laugh, I strongly suggest they check out > > http://www.buddyweiserman.com/ Oh, my goodness, I haven't had a good laugh like that for a while. Still, I understand many people have been defrauded by these scammers, and some even vanished without a trace. Adam --- http://DropShipWhiz.com/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Mon Aug 27 12:49:29 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from postfix1-2.free.fr (postfix1-2.free.fr [213.228.0.130]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E910737B407 for ; Mon, 27 Aug 2001 12:49:25 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from rsidd@lpt.ens.fr) Received: from bluerondo.a.la.turk (nas-cbv-6-8-53.dial.proxad.net [213.228.8.53]) by postfix1-2.free.fr (Postfix) with SMTP id 60AD5AB30D for ; Mon, 27 Aug 2001 21:49:23 +0200 (CEST) Received: (qmail 386 invoked by uid 1001); 27 Aug 2001 19:49:20 -0000 Date: Mon, 27 Aug 2001 21:49:20 +0200 From: Rahul Siddharthan To: "G. Adam Stanislav" Cc: Nik Clayton , freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: URGENT CALL FOR HELP Message-ID: <20010827214920.A365@lpt.ens.fr> References: <3.0.6.32.20010826183320.0087f560@mail85.pair.com> <20010826230850.E8B3537B40E@hub.freebsd.org> <3.0.6.32.20010826183320.0087f560@mail85.pair.com> <20010827151834.D46201@clan.nothing-going-on.org> <3.0.6.32.20010827142819.0089ed20@mail85.pair.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <3.0.6.32.20010827142819.0089ed20@mail85.pair.com>; from adam@whizkidtech.net on Mon, Aug 27, 2001 at 02:28:19PM -0500 X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 4.4-PRERELEASE i386 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org G. Adam Stanislav said on Aug 27, 2001 at 14:28:19: > I understand many people have been defrauded by these scammers, and some > even vanished without a trace. I find it harder to understand -- but apparently these guys were at it since the 1980s, with snailmail (authentic-looking official stationery) etc. I wonder just how many people would fall for a "confidential top secret" offer sent to a mailing list... R To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Mon Aug 27 18:19:37 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mao.stokely.org (mao.stokely.org [65.84.64.228]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8369937B406 for ; Mon, 27 Aug 2001 18:19:34 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from murray@stokely.org) Received: by mao.stokely.org (Postfix, from userid 2074) id CF0DB4B65D; Mon, 27 Aug 2001 18:25:17 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 27 Aug 2001 18:25:17 -0700 From: Murray Stokely To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Subject: two-sided output with Jade Message-ID: <20010827182517.D21422@windriver.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i X-GPG-Key-ID: 1024D/0E451F7D X-GPG-Key-Fingerprint: E2CA 411D DD44 53FD BB4B 3CB5 B4D7 10A2 0E45 1F7D Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Is anyone able to build two-sided output with Jade. This is normally accomplished by sending -V%two-side% -Vtex-backend to Jade but unfortunately that has stopped working for me sometime in the past month. I have a printout here proving that it was working but for some reason I can't get it to work no matter what version of JadeTeX, Jade, or the stylesheets that I revert to. Is anyone else able to get two sided output (so that the page numbers appear at the correct spot for recto/verso pages). I simplified the test case and it seems like the Jade primitive (if-front-page) is always returning true, which really confuses me because Jade is the one part of the equation that I know I haven't touched in the last month. ;/ - Murray (pulling his hair out) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Mon Aug 27 20:38:26 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mao.stokely.org (mao.stokely.org [65.84.64.228]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 39DE637B401; Mon, 27 Aug 2001 20:38:23 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from murray@stokely.org) Received: by mao.stokely.org (Postfix, from userid 2074) id A6DD44B65D; Mon, 27 Aug 2001 20:44:06 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 27 Aug 2001 20:44:06 -0700 From: Murray Stokely To: Murray Stokely Cc: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: two-sided output with Jade Message-ID: <20010827204406.A21804@windriver.com> References: <20010827182517.D21422@windriver.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-md5; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="XsQoSWH+UP9D9v3l" Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <20010827182517.D21422@windriver.com>; from murray@FreeBSD.org on Mon, Aug 27, 2001 at 06:25:17PM -0700 X-GPG-Key-ID: 1024D/0E451F7D X-GPG-Key-Fingerprint: E2CA 411D DD44 53FD BB4B 3CB5 B4D7 10A2 0E45 1F7D Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org --XsQoSWH+UP9D9v3l Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Mon, Aug 27, 2001 at 06:25:17PM -0700, Murray Stokely wrote: > Is anyone able to build two-sided output with Jade. This is > normally accomplished by sending -V%two-side% -Vtex-backend to Jade The bug is in JadeTeX. Version 2.18 and 2.20 will produce correct output (in this respect, there are other bugs that 3.x fixes) but versions 3.6, 3.10, and 3.11 (released but not in ports tree) have this problem that they can not tell the difference between recto and verso pages. I'm very surpised that noone has discussed this on any of the docbook/DSSSL mailing lists. 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Steven Schwartz - Editor & Staff To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Mon Aug 27 23:52:19 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mao.stokely.org (mao.stokely.org [65.84.64.228]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4216437B405; Mon, 27 Aug 2001 23:52:15 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from murray@stokely.org) Received: by mao.stokely.org (Postfix, from userid 2074) id DAC694B65D; Mon, 27 Aug 2001 23:57:58 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 27 Aug 2001 23:57:58 -0700 From: Murray Stokely To: Murray Stokely Cc: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: two-sided output with Jade Message-ID: <20010827235758.E21804@windriver.com> References: <20010827182517.D21422@windriver.com> <20010827204406.A21804@windriver.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <20010827204406.A21804@windriver.com>; from murray@FreeBSD.org on Mon, Aug 27, 2001 at 08:44:06PM -0700 X-GPG-Key-ID: 1024D/0E451F7D X-GPG-Key-Fingerprint: E2CA 411D DD44 53FD BB4B 3CB5 B4D7 10A2 0E45 1F7D Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Mon, Aug 27, 2001 at 08:44:06PM -0700, Murray Stokely wrote: > The bug is in JadeTeX. Version 2.18 and 2.20 will produce correct > output (in this respect, there are other bugs that 3.x fixes) but > versions 3.6, 3.10, and 3.11 (released but not in ports tree) have FYI, I've posted a patch against 3.11 to the sourceforge JadeTeX site that fixes this bug. This patched version of 3.11 is the only way I know to use roman numerals for frontmatter, arabic numbers for the rest, and recto/verso pages to work properly. Of course, now I'm running into a TeX capacities exceeded error again but thats another issue. ;/, - Murray To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Tue Aug 28 5:46:10 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A43C837B407; Tue, 28 Aug 2001 05:46:06 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dd@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from dd@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.11.4/8.11.4) id f7SCaqX40090; Tue, 28 Aug 2001 05:36:52 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dd) Date: Tue, 28 Aug 2001 05:36:52 -0700 (PDT) From: Message-Id: <200108281236.f7SCaqX40090@freefall.freebsd.org> To: mwm@mired.org, dd@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: docs/30062: [PATCH] The description of disk, slices and partitions lacks detail Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Synopsis: [PATCH] The description of disk, slices and partitions lacks detail State-Changed-From-To: open->closed State-Changed-By: dd State-Changed-When: Tue Aug 28 05:36:44 PDT 2001 State-Changed-Why: Applied, thanks! http://www.FreeBSD.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=30062 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Tue Aug 28 5:56: 9 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B476837B405; Tue, 28 Aug 2001 05:56:06 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dd@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from dd@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.11.4/8.11.4) id f7SCokT41785; Tue, 28 Aug 2001 05:50:46 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dd) Date: Tue, 28 Aug 2001 05:50:46 -0700 (PDT) From: Message-Id: <200108281250.f7SCokT41785@freefall.freebsd.org> To: dan@BSDpro.com, dd@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: docs/30092: A typo in the the docs Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Synopsis: A typo in the the docs State-Changed-From-To: open->closed State-Changed-By: dd State-Changed-When: Tue Aug 28 05:50:05 PDT 2001 State-Changed-Why: Fixed, thanks! http://www.FreeBSD.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=30092 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Tue Aug 28 5:56:10 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D788037B406; Tue, 28 Aug 2001 05:56:06 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dd@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from dd@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.11.4/8.11.4) id f7SClu041291; Tue, 28 Aug 2001 05:47:56 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dd) Date: Tue, 28 Aug 2001 05:47:56 -0700 (PDT) From: Message-Id: <200108281247.f7SClu041291@freefall.freebsd.org> To: andrew@ugh.net.au, dd@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: docs/30069: netstat man page doesn't describe the meaning of * Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Synopsis: netstat man page doesn't describe the meaning of * State-Changed-From-To: open->closed State-Changed-By: dd State-Changed-When: Tue Aug 28 05:45:48 PDT 2001 State-Changed-Why: Applied after some minor changes, thanks! Regarding the up/down thing: IFF_UP is a flag like IFF_BROADCAST, IFF_NOARP, IFF_LINK0, etc., but the opposite of being up is down; thus, if the flag isn't set, the interface is administratively down. Reflecting this was one of my changes. Thanks! http://www.FreeBSD.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=30069 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Tue Aug 28 8:50:15 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BAB0837B408 for ; Tue, 28 Aug 2001 08:50:00 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.11.4/8.11.4) id f7SFo0480649; Tue, 28 Aug 2001 08:50:00 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats) Received: from tomts5-srv.bellnexxia.net (tomts5.bellnexxia.net [209.226.175.25]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ED2A037B407 for ; Tue, 28 Aug 2001 08:43:57 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from anarcat@anarcat.dyndns.org) Received: from khan.anarcat.dyndns.org ([65.92.160.216]) by tomts5-srv.bellnexxia.net (InterMail vM.4.01.03.16 201-229-121-116-20010115) with ESMTP id <20010828154357.PWYK10424.tomts5-srv.bellnexxia.net@khan.anarcat.dyndns.org> for ; Tue, 28 Aug 2001 11:43:57 -0400 Received: from shall.anarcat.dyndns.org (shall.anarcat.dyndns.org [192.168.0.1]) by khan.anarcat.dyndns.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BF8FE196A for ; Tue, 28 Aug 2001 11:43:51 -0400 (EDT) Received: by shall.anarcat.dyndns.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id E4A2920AC9; Tue, 28 Aug 2001 11:43:48 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <20010828154348.E4A2920AC9@shall.anarcat.dyndns.org> Date: Tue, 28 Aug 2001 11:43:48 -0400 (EDT) From: The Anarcat Reply-To: The Anarcat To: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@freebsd.org X-Send-Pr-Version: 3.113 Subject: docs/30163: ed.4 manpage should document more in detail the device timout diagnosis. Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org >Number: 30163 >Category: docs >Synopsis: ed.4 manpage should document more in detail the device timout diagnosis. >Confidential: no >Severity: serious >Priority: low >Responsible: freebsd-doc >State: open >Quarter: >Keywords: >Date-Required: >Class: doc-bug >Submitter-Id: current-users >Arrival-Date: Tue Aug 28 08:50:00 PDT 2001 >Closed-Date: >Last-Modified: >Originator: The Anarcat >Release: FreeBSD 4.4-RC i386 >Organization: Nada, Inc >Environment: System: FreeBSD shall.anarcat.dyndns.org 4.4-RC FreeBSD 4.4-RC #4: Wed Aug 22 12:21:57 EDT 2001 anarcat@shall.anarcat.dyndns.org:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/SHALL i386 >Description: The ed(4) manpage documents the ed0: device timeout diagnosis as a possible interrupt conflict with another device on the ISA bus. There might be other causes. Old ISA NICs are known to be configurable with proprietary interfaces. For example, the nic I have here works fine on windows, and I can change it's irq there (even if it's not plug and play), but when I go back to fbsd, the case is *recognized* but I cannot use it. >How-To-Repeat: N/A. >Fix: Patch to the ed.4 manpage: --- /usr/src/share/man/man4/ed.4 Tue Aug 21 13:14:01 2001 +++ ed.4 Tue Aug 28 11:38:49 2001 @@ -134,7 +134,10 @@ .It "ed%d: device timeout" Indicates that an expected transmitter interrupt didn't occur. Usually caused by an -interrupt conflict with another card on the ISA bus. +interrupt conflict with another card on the ISA bus. It could also +be caused by the card being on another irq channel than the one +configured in the kernel. You will have to either reconfigure the card +using a DOS utility or set the jumpers on the card appropriatly. .It "ed%d: NIC memory corrupt - invalid packet length %d." Indicates that a packet was received with a packet length that was either larger than the maximum size or smaller than the minimum size allowed by the IEEE 802.3 standard. >Release-Note: >Audit-Trail: >Unformatted: To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Tue Aug 28 17:21:15 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (pc-62-31-42-140-hy.blueyonder.co.uk [62.31.42.140]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D4DB037B407 for ; Tue, 28 Aug 2001 17:21:09 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nik@nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk) Received: (from nik@localhost) by nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (8.11.3/8.11.3) id f7T06q952099 for doc@freebsd.org; Wed, 29 Aug 2001 01:06:52 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from nik) Date: Wed, 29 Aug 2001 01:06:52 +0100 From: Nik Clayton To: doc@freebsd.org Subject: [eric@caldera.de: Documentation and applications translation glossary] Message-ID: <20010829010652.H46201@clan.nothing-going-on.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-md5; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="AAnJd2yLvu+tR7U7" Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i Organization: FreeBSD Project Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org --AAnJd2yLvu+tR7U7 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable ----- Forwarded message from Eric Bischoff ----- From: Eric Bischoff Subject: Documentation and applications translation glossary Hi all, In case you are involved with authoring or translation vocabulary issues, the following ressource might interest you: http://www.caldera.de/~eric/glossary/index.html (set your browser to UTF-8 if you want this page correctly displayed). It's a translation glossary. It helps sticking to consistent English and translated vocabulary when writing or translating applications and technical documentation. It also helps with some classical ambiguities (free software vs. freeware, for example). This glossary has currently 453 entries, and keeps growing. For the moment, each entry is available in the following languages: en English de German es Spanish fr French it Italian pt Portuguse pt_BR Portuguese of Brazil and I'm hoping to see some Asian languages supported very soon. This glossary is under FDL license, with no invariant sections. This means that you can freely modify it. The XML sources are available at: http://www.caldera.de/~eric/glossary/glossary.tgz The sources are currently in iso-8859-1. This naturally needs to be changed if some non-western language gets added. These sources conform to an ad-hoc DTD, and custom XSLT style sheets are used to convert the sources to HTML. Both the DTD and the style sheets are available too, of course. =20 If you want to send me new versions of this glossary, I can store them at the same location, provided that you do not do changes nor removals, but only additions. This restriction is only because I have not enough ressources to change existing English texts or translations at Caldera so they keep conforming to the glossary. I do not pretend that we have chosen the best vocabulary and translations that one could imagine when we have built this glossary ;-). If you do not agree with this restriction, I have no philosophical problems with every interested distribution or project maintaining its own version of the glossary. Eric S. Raymond can notice that this is an unusual case where splits are not necessarily a bad thing, and could even make a lot of sense ;-). I hope that this initiative of a translation glossary helps. --=20 ric Bischoff - Documentation and Localization Caldera (Deutschland) GmbH - Linux for eBusiness Tel: +49 9131 7192 300 - Fax: +49 9131 7192 399 http://www.caldera.de/ --- You are currently subscribed to doc_leaders as: nik@freebsd.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-doc_leaders-133929Y@franklin.oit= .unc.edu ----- End forwarded message ----- --=20 FreeBSD: The Power to Serve http://www.freebsd.org/ FreeBSD Documentation Project http://www.freebsd.org/docproj/ --- 15B8 3FFC DDB4 34B0 AA5F 94B7 93A8 0764 2C37 E375 --- --AAnJd2yLvu+tR7U7 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (FreeBSD) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iEYEARECAAYFAjuMMhsACgkQk6gHZCw343VmMwCfedfrBk9PQ31PpE+Mtwm/UB4E SxQAn3FsHXtq7WnceQNXi4ltZj2HymE0 =dwMk -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --AAnJd2yLvu+tR7U7-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Tue Aug 28 17:51:26 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (pc-62-31-42-140-hy.blueyonder.co.uk [62.31.42.140]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 04E9937B405 for ; Tue, 28 Aug 2001 17:51:21 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nik@nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk) Received: (from nik@localhost) by nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (8.11.3/8.11.3) id f7T0jge52457; Wed, 29 Aug 2001 01:45:42 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from nik) Date: Wed, 29 Aug 2001 01:45:42 +0100 From: Nik Clayton To: =?iso-8859-1?Q?L=E1szl=F3_L=2E_Orosz?= Cc: doc@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: Text-covering and overlapping figure images Message-ID: <20010829014542.M46201@clan.nothing-going-on.org> References: <3B889388.5FF3B66B@suffolk.lib.ny.us> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-md5; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="qmq+yACkV15HOutv" Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <3B889388.5FF3B66B@suffolk.lib.ny.us>; from lorosz@suffolk.lib.ny.us on Sun, Aug 26, 2001 at 01:13:28AM -0500 Organization: FreeBSD Project Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org --qmq+yACkV15HOutv Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sun, Aug 26, 2001 at 01:13:28AM -0500, L=E1szl=F3 L. Orosz wrote: > There are some rendering problems with Figures 2.3 through 2.6: these > figures are located over text fields. Thus, the text underneath them > cannot be read that jeopardizes the understandability of the whole > chapter. Furthermore, Figures 2.4 through 2.6 overlap to a degree that > only parts of two figures can be seen. Which browser and version are you using? > In addition, I have some general observation as follows: >=20 > The list of supported components is rather outdated. Anything that is > over five-year old should be put in an antiquated or legacy component > category. But, well established and upcoming new components should be > listed. Instead SCSI boards from the '80s and early '90s I like to see > CD-ROM, DVD-ROM, CD-RW and DVD-RW units, USB and fire-wire components. Do you mean the list in the Handbook, or HARDWARE.TXT that comes with each release? > Though, it may not be incorrect, but it is definitely unrealistic to try > to install multiple operating systems on a 4GB hard drive in 2001. > Obviously, using at least a 40GB hard drive in the example would be more > realistic. There is a similar problem with the space requirement. > Nowadays, when a browser can take up close to 100MB, it is rather > hopeless to try jam everything in 2GB! Which parts of the Handbook are you referring to? > I also find somewhat naive to assume that the DOS and Windoze duet would > live in a studio apartment called C:. I, for example, use C: through I: > for them, and having root, home, usr and swap partitions for Linux, and > have a tight 12GB left for FreeBSD. I am really not sure that that > amount will be enough in early 2002. =20 Depends what you're doing with it. Until a few months ago I was doing all my FreeBSD work on with 2 2GB disks. > What perhaps is more important > that this set up would force the description to deal with logical > partitions, too. What about bringing in the picture a second hard > drive? =20 It's a complete bugger to document. The installation material has to walk a very narrow tightrope between being intelligible and short enough=20 that J. Average user can understand it while being comprehensive enough that it covers all the weird configurations and possibilities out there. > Using the word slice is not a great help. =20 That's what FreeBSD calls them. The reader has to get used to this at some point down the line. > It rather fogs the mental picture of disk utilization. Is it=20 > fundamentally different from a partition? =20 FreeBSD Slice =3D=3D DOS Partition. There is no DOS equivalent for a FreeBSD partition. > Does FreeBSD requests using a contiguous disk region? =20 Yes, at least one partition. > Has that region to be a primary partition,=20 Yes. > or start on a primary partition, or can be a set of logical partitions? = =20 > Using only primary partitions in the examples makes the description=20 > formally simpler, but leaves the subject incomplete. FreeBSD must be installed on to at least one primary slice, a.k.a DOS partion (which it will boot from). Multiple FreeBSD partitions (and therefore, filesystems and swap space) can be created within this primary slice. If you have primary or logical slices on the same (or other) disks then they can also be used for FreeBSD. I'm still working on the installation instructions. Please check the web site, as stuff is changing almost daily. And, if possible, please suggest changes that include replacement text. N --=20 FreeBSD: The Power to Serve http://www.freebsd.org/ FreeBSD Documentation Project http://www.freebsd.org/docproj/ --- 15B8 3FFC DDB4 34B0 AA5F 94B7 93A8 0764 2C37 E375 --- --qmq+yACkV15HOutv Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (FreeBSD) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iEYEARECAAYFAjuMOzYACgkQk6gHZCw343X8qwCaAu1Oo73YenhZB6g/XCBKwS/6 xWwAn31om6VGL9rrv7XfRLwEUgaPIkYu =bLp5 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --qmq+yACkV15HOutv-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Tue Aug 28 17:52:54 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (pc-62-31-42-140-hy.blueyonder.co.uk [62.31.42.140]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2882137B405 for ; Tue, 28 Aug 2001 17:52:51 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nik@nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk) Received: (from nik@localhost) by nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (8.11.3/8.11.3) id f7T0ZM152432; Wed, 29 Aug 2001 01:35:22 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from nik) Date: Wed, 29 Aug 2001 01:35:22 +0100 From: Nik Clayton To: Hiroki Sato Cc: paul@saxa.georgetown.edu, freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: pdfjadetex, Fatal format Message-ID: <20010829013522.L46201@clan.nothing-going-on.org> References: <20010819.014912.98853520.hrs@eos.ocn.ne.jp> <20010819.025123.91307958.hrs@eos.ocn.ne.jp> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-md5; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="3w8x3zxtEJX8SUiO" Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <20010819.025123.91307958.hrs@eos.ocn.ne.jp>; from hrs@eos.ocn.ne.jp on Sun, Aug 19, 2001 at 02:51:23AM +0900 Organization: FreeBSD Project Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org --3w8x3zxtEJX8SUiO Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sun, Aug 19, 2001 at 02:51:23AM +0900, Hiroki Sato wrote: > The primer is incorrect on that point (s/tex/pdftex/). > Probably doc/share/mk/doc.docbook.mk would help. Thanks for spotting that. I've fixed the primer. N --=20 FreeBSD: The Power to Serve http://www.freebsd.org/ FreeBSD Documentation Project http://www.freebsd.org/docproj/ --- 15B8 3FFC DDB4 34B0 AA5F 94B7 93A8 0764 2C37 E375 --- --3w8x3zxtEJX8SUiO Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (FreeBSD) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iEYEARECAAYFAjuMOMoACgkQk6gHZCw343V77ACgkUVvvfiKVGVx5t+qOx1l6nx2 aq8AmwW0rrGS3IJ3558HKPXrf+Jxzv9i =36wN -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --3w8x3zxtEJX8SUiO-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Tue Aug 28 17:53: 5 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (pc-62-31-42-140-hy.blueyonder.co.uk [62.31.42.140]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8C42B37B403; Tue, 28 Aug 2001 17:52:58 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nik@nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk) Received: (from nik@localhost) by nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (8.11.3/8.11.3) id f7T0UXM52388; Wed, 29 Aug 2001 01:30:33 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from nik) Date: Wed, 29 Aug 2001 01:30:33 +0100 From: Nik Clayton To: Rahul Siddharthan Cc: Nik Clayton , doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Handbook section for laptops? Message-ID: <20010829013033.K46201@clan.nothing-going-on.org> References: <20010817131831.A26007@lpt.ens.fr> <20010817141033.H59279@clan.nothing-going-on.org> <20010824000302.A36959@lpt.ens.fr> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-md5; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="W/y7qBwfEQL/2otS" Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <20010824000302.A36959@lpt.ens.fr>; from rsidd@physics.iisc.ernet.in on Fri, Aug 24, 2001 at 12:03:02AM +0200 Organization: FreeBSD Project Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org --W/y7qBwfEQL/2otS Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Fri, Aug 24, 2001 at 12:03:02AM +0200, Rahul Siddharthan wrote: > Here's a first stab at some documentation for installing on laptops. > It's not much, in fact it's hardly anything so far, but it's a start. >=20 > I think it would be a useful resource if it's built on; perhaps some > expert can pick it up and continue it. >=20 > http://www.lpt.ens.fr/~rsidd/laptop.html This definitely has the beginnings of an article feel to it. Can you send-pr this, so it doesn't get lost in the noise. Submitting the same text marked up as a DocBook article would be=20 superb. . . N --=20 FreeBSD: The Power to Serve http://www.freebsd.org/ FreeBSD Documentation Project http://www.freebsd.org/docproj/ --- 15B8 3FFC DDB4 34B0 AA5F 94B7 93A8 0764 2C37 E375 --- --W/y7qBwfEQL/2otS Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (FreeBSD) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iEYEARECAAYFAjuMN6gACgkQk6gHZCw343UhuQCfXKfEOczqvt5XVYjHyN8Ea4lz 0MgAniC0gdBJQSC1T3YjFZLQBqP+SaQk =wZef -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --W/y7qBwfEQL/2otS-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Tue Aug 28 17:53: 7 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (pc-62-31-42-140-hy.blueyonder.co.uk [62.31.42.140]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DE37837B405; Tue, 28 Aug 2001 17:52:59 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nik@nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk) Received: (from nik@localhost) by nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (8.11.3/8.11.3) id f7T0Su052366; Wed, 29 Aug 2001 01:28:56 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from nik) Date: Wed, 29 Aug 2001 01:28:56 +0100 From: Nik Clayton To: "Bruce A. Mah" Cc: Nik Clayton , freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: cvs commit: doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/install chapter.sgml Message-ID: <20010829012856.J46201@clan.nothing-going-on.org> References: <200108161609.f7GG9HH21329@freefall.freebsd.org> <200108170411.f7H4BD828408@intruder.bmah.org> <20010817092301.B59279@clan.nothing-going-on.org> <200108182012.f7IKCe102594@intruder.bmah.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-md5; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="BPjCafsbA2ap7OrL" Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <200108182012.f7IKCe102594@intruder.bmah.org>; from bmah@freebsd.org on Sat, Aug 18, 2001 at 01:12:40PM -0700 Organization: FreeBSD Project Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org --BPjCafsbA2ap7OrL Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sat, Aug 18, 2001 at 01:12:40PM -0700, Bruce A. Mah wrote: > One of the main issues I'm concerned with is this: For example, as you > know, RELNOTESng builds architecture-specific documents. Clearly this > is not feasible for the Handbook, but there has to be some other way to > deal with this issue. I *think* we can do this by having parallel=20 > sections where necessary, e.g.: >=20 > Chapter 2 Installing FreeBSD > 2.1 Synopsis > 2.2 Pre-installation Tasks > 2.2.1 Inventory Your Computer > 2.2.2 Backup Your Data > 2.2.3 Decide Where to Install FreeBSD > 2.2.3.1 i386 > 2.2.3.2 Alpha > 2.2.4 Check for FreeBSD Errata > 2.2.5 Prepare the Boot Discs > 2.3 Starting the Installation > 2.3.1 Starting the Installation Process > 2.3.1.1 i386 > 2.3.1.2 Alpha > 2.3.2 Starting UserConfig > ...etc... Could do. How does this fit in with the current install/ chapter content? > I can take a shot at bringing in the Alpha-specific material from the > RELNOTESng installation document (help from "real" Alpha users would of > course be welcomed). Do you think this might work? Diffs for the moment, please -- with the September 15th printing deadline for the Handbook looming, I'd rather not see stuff go in that is almost certainly not going to be finished by then -- can we revisit this in more detail after then? N --=20 FreeBSD: The Power to Serve http://www.freebsd.org/ FreeBSD Documentation Project http://www.freebsd.org/docproj/ --- 15B8 3FFC DDB4 34B0 AA5F 94B7 93A8 0764 2C37 E375 --- --BPjCafsbA2ap7OrL Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (FreeBSD) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iEYEARECAAYFAjuMN0cACgkQk6gHZCw343UeRQCfYAg0hLcdoDUZf5UIJ9WAIMr5 +WkAmwZ8aXZ1YCQDXRTPICBXzCPnSGH+ =kyF4 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --BPjCafsbA2ap7OrL-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Tue Aug 28 22:39:38 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from postfix2-1.free.fr (postfix2-1.free.fr [213.228.0.9]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BAD5237B409 for ; Tue, 28 Aug 2001 22:39:33 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from rsidd@lpt.ens.fr) Received: from bluerondo.a.la.turk (nas-cbv-5-47-12.dial.proxad.net [212.27.47.12]) by postfix2-1.free.fr (Postfix) with SMTP id A32BD1DD for ; Wed, 29 Aug 2001 07:39:31 +0200 (CEST) Received: (qmail 464 invoked by uid 1001); 29 Aug 2001 05:39:31 -0000 Date: Wed, 29 Aug 2001 07:39:31 +0200 From: Rahul Siddharthan To: Nik Clayton Cc: doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Handbook section for laptops? Message-ID: <20010829073930.A437@lpt.ens.fr> References: <20010817131831.A26007@lpt.ens.fr> <20010817141033.H59279@clan.nothing-going-on.org> <20010824000302.A36959@lpt.ens.fr> <20010829013033.K46201@clan.nothing-going-on.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <20010829013033.K46201@clan.nothing-going-on.org>; from nik@freebsd.org on Wed, Aug 29, 2001 at 01:30:33AM +0100 X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 4.4-PRERELEASE i386 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Nik Clayton said on Aug 29, 2001 at 01:30:33: > > This definitely has the beginnings of an article feel to it. Can you > send-pr this, so it doesn't get lost in the noise. I'll do that later today. > Submitting the same text marked up as a DocBook article would be > superb. . . I'll do that too. Thanks R To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Wed Aug 29 4:51:22 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (pc-62-31-42-140-hy.blueyonder.co.uk [62.31.42.140]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 20DDB37B401 for ; Wed, 29 Aug 2001 04:51:15 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nik@nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk) Received: (from nik@localhost) by nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (8.11.3/8.11.3) id f7TBUMP66721 for doc@freebsd.org; Wed, 29 Aug 2001 12:30:22 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from nik) Date: Wed, 29 Aug 2001 12:30:22 +0100 From: Nik Clayton To: doc@freebsd.org Subject: Integrating the docs with KDE and GNOME Message-ID: <20010829123022.R46201@clan.nothing-going-on.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-md5; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="KcF6tPGvW9XXJH0t" Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i Organization: FreeBSD Project Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org --KcF6tPGvW9XXJH0t Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="gmAlUWRVDrnirEWv" Content-Disposition: inline --gmAlUWRVDrnirEWv Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Folks, The attached diff generates a .desktop file as part of the html-split format build. If you then install this using "make install" (and eventually, as part of the package install) then this *.desktop files are installed in the right place for them to appear in the KDE Helpcenter. A screenshot of this, with all the docs installed, can be seen at=20 http://people.freebsd.org/~nik/snapshot4.png In theory, the format of the *.desktop files is identical between KDE and GNOME, so, modulo a couple of path changes, this should work for GNOME as well. I don't run GNOME locally, so patches would be appreciated. Comments? N --=20 FreeBSD: The Power to Serve http://www.freebsd.org/ FreeBSD Documentation Project http://www.freebsd.org/docproj/ --- 15B8 3FFC DDB4 34B0 AA5F 94B7 93A8 0764 2C37 E375 --- --gmAlUWRVDrnirEWv Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: attachment; filename=diff Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Index: share/mk/doc.docbook.mk =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D RCS file: /home/ncvs/doc/share/mk/doc.docbook.mk,v retrieving revision 1.45 diff -u -r1.45 doc.docbook.mk --- share/mk/doc.docbook.mk 2001/08/23 07:59:06 1.45 +++ share/mk/doc.docbook.mk 2001/08/29 11:10:40 @@ -54,6 +54,10 @@ # CSS_SHEET Full path to a CSS stylesheet suitable for DocBook. # Default is ${DOC_PREFIX}/share/misc/docbook.css # +# DESKTOP_TITLE The title of this document, as it should appear in +# the generated .desktop file. Default is the content +# of the first element in the document. +# # Print-output options : # # NICE_HEADERS If defined, customized chapter headers will be cre= ated @@ -251,11 +255,18 @@ LOCAL_IMAGES_LIB +=3D ${LOCAL_IMAGES_LIB_DIR}/${_curimage}=20 .endfor=20 =20 +# +# Desktop file +# +DESKTOP?=3D ${.CURDIR:T}.desktop +DESKTOP_TITLE?=3D `grep title ${DOC}.${DOCBOOKSUFFIX} | head -n 1 | perl = -pe 's/\s*<.*?>\s*//g'` +CLEANFILES+=3D Desktop ${DESKTOP} + .MAIN: all =20 all: ${_docs} =20 -index.html HTML.manifest: ${SRCS} ${LOCAL_IMAGES_LIB} ${IMAGES_PNG} ${INDE= X_SGML} ${HTML_SPLIT_INDEX} docbook.css +index.html HTML.manifest: ${SRCS} ${LOCAL_IMAGES_LIB} ${IMAGES_PNG} ${INDE= X_SGML} ${HTML_SPLIT_INDEX} docbook.css ${DESKTOP} ${JADE} -V html-manifest -ioutput.html -ioutput.html.images ${JADEOPTS} -= d ${DSLHTML} -t sgml ${MASTERDOC} .if !defined(NO_TIDY) -tidy -i -m -f /dev/null ${TIDYFLAGS} `xargs < HTML.manifest` @@ -455,7 +466,7 @@ _cf=3D${_curformat} .if !target(install-${_cf}) .if ${_cf} =3D=3D "html-split" -install-${_cf}: index.html +install-${_cf}: index.html ${DESKTOP} @[ -d ${DESTDIR} ] || mkdir -p ${DESTDIR} ${INSTALL_DOCS} `xargs < HTML.manifest` ${DESTDIR} ${INSTALL_DOCS} docbook.css ${DESTDIR} @@ -480,6 +491,8 @@ .for _curimage in ${IMAGES_PNG:N*/*} ${INSTALL_DOCS} ${_curimage} ${DESTDIR} .endfor + mkdir -p ${PREFIX}/share/${KDE_DESKTOP_PATH} + ${INSTALL_DOCS} ${DESKTOP} ${PREFIX}/share/${KDE_DESKTOP_PATH} .for _compressext in ${KNOWN_COMPRESS} install-${_cf}.tar.${_compressext}: ${DOC}.${_cf}.tar.${_compressext} @[ -d ${DESTDIR} ] || mkdir -p ${DESTDIR} @@ -505,10 +518,12 @@ .for _curimage in ${IMAGES_PNG:N*/*} ${INSTALL_DOCS} ${_curimage} ${DESTDIR} .endfor + mkdir -p ${PREFIX}/share/${KDE_DESKTOP_PATH}/${DESKTOP_TITLE} .else install-${_cf}: ${DOC}.${_cf} @[ -d ${DESTDIR} ] || mkdir -p ${DESTDIR} ${INSTALL_DOCS} ${.ALLSRC} ${DESTDIR} + mkdir -p ${PREFIX}/share/${KDE_DESKTOP_PATH}/${DESKTOP_TITLE} =20 .for _compressext in ${KNOWN_COMPRESS} install-${_cf}.${_compressext}: ${DOC}.${_cf}.${_compressext} @@ -518,6 +533,22 @@ .endif .endif .endfor + +# ------------------------------------------------------------------------ +# +# Desktop files +# +# For use with environments like KDE and GNOME +# + +Desktop: + echo '[Desktop Entry]' > ${.TARGET} + echo 'Icon=3Dhelpdoc' >> ${.TARGET} + +${DESKTOP}: Desktop + cp Desktop ${.TARGET} + echo 'Name=3D'${DESKTOP_TITLE} >> ${.TARGET} + echo 'DocPath=3Dfile:'${DESTDIR}/index.html >> ${.TARGET} =20 # ------------------------------------------------------------------------ # Index: en_US.ISO8859-1/books/Makefile.inc =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D RCS file: /home/ncvs/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/Makefile.inc,v retrieving revision 1.4 diff -u -r1.4 Makefile.inc --- en_US.ISO8859-1/books/Makefile.inc 2001/06/11 01:16:40 1.4 +++ en_US.ISO8859-1/books/Makefile.inc 2001/08/29 11:19:52 @@ -3,3 +3,4 @@ # =20 DESTDIR?=3D ${DOCDIR}/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/${.CURDIR:T} +KDE_DESKTOP_PATH?=3D apps/khelpcenter/plugins/FreeBSD/Books Index: en_US.ISO8859-1/articles/Makefile.inc =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D RCS file: /home/ncvs/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/articles/Makefile.inc,v retrieving revision 1.4 diff -u -r1.4 Makefile.inc --- en_US.ISO8859-1/articles/Makefile.inc 2001/06/11 01:16:38 1.4 +++ en_US.ISO8859-1/articles/Makefile.inc 2001/08/23 21:50:49 @@ -3,3 +3,4 @@ # =20 DESTDIR?=3D ${DOCDIR}/en_US.ISO8859-1/articles/${.CURDIR:T} +KDE_DESKTOP_PATH?=3D apps/khelpcenter/plugins/FreeBSD/Articles --gmAlUWRVDrnirEWv-- --KcF6tPGvW9XXJH0t Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (FreeBSD) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iEYEARECAAYFAjuM0k0ACgkQk6gHZCw343U2mQCdFvewrs6v5+dVGBYFGQC8CkYb d9UAoIufGzrn8RVJ3/bHTKaEuwcA/aJ3 =R5pF -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --KcF6tPGvW9XXJH0t-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Wed Aug 29 5:12:43 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from nef.ens.fr (nef.ens.fr [129.199.96.32]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BE42A37B405; Wed, 29 Aug 2001 05:12:39 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from Rahul.Siddharthan@lpt.ens.fr) Received: from corto.lpt.ens.fr (corto.lpt.ens.fr [129.199.122.2]) by nef.ens.fr (8.10.1/1.01.28121999) with ESMTP id f7TCCcm70956 ; Wed, 29 Aug 2001 14:12:38 +0200 (CEST) Received: from (rsidd@localhost) by corto.lpt.ens.fr (8.9.3/jtpda-5.3.1) id OAA00746 ; Wed, 29 Aug 2001 14:12:37 +0200 (CEST) Date: Wed, 29 Aug 2001 14:12:37 +0200 From: Rahul Siddharthan <rsidd@physics.iisc.ernet.in> To: Nik Clayton <nik@FreeBSD.ORG> Cc: doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Integrating the docs with KDE and GNOME Message-ID: <20010829141237.C99895@lpt.ens.fr> References: <20010829123022.R46201@clan.nothing-going-on.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <20010829123022.R46201@clan.nothing-going-on.org>; from nik@FreeBSD.ORG on Wed, Aug 29, 2001 at 12:30:22PM +0100 X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 3.4-STABLE i386 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: <freebsd-doc.FreeBSD.ORG> List-Archive: <http://docs.freebsd.org/mail/> (Web Archive) List-Help: <mailto:majordomo@FreeBSD.ORG?subject=help> (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: <mailto:majordomo@FreeBSD.ORG?subject=subscribe%20freebsd-doc> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:majordomo@FreeBSD.ORG?subject=unsubscribe%20freebsd-doc> X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Nik Clayton said on Aug 29, 2001 at 12:30:22: > The attached diff generates a .desktop file as part of the html-split > format build. If you then install this using "make install" (and > eventually, as part of the package install) then this *.desktop files > are installed in the right place for them to appear in the KDE > Helpcenter. > > A screenshot of this, with all the docs installed, can be seen at > > http://people.freebsd.org/~nik/snapshot4.png > > In theory, the format of the *.desktop files is identical between KDE > and GNOME, so, modulo a couple of path changes, this should work for > GNOME as well. I don't run GNOME locally, so patches would be > appreciated. > > Comments? Very nice, long overdue idea. I'll see what I can do with GNOME -- I don't normally run it but I've used it before, and I'm installing it again now. - Rahul. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Wed Aug 29 6: 0:10 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D09DC37B406 for <freebsd-doc@freebsd.org>; Wed, 29 Aug 2001 06:00:01 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.11.4/8.11.4) id f7TD01A05540; Wed, 29 Aug 2001 06:00:01 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats) Received: from iaces.com (horton.iaces.com [204.147.87.98]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 87D1737B406 for <FreeBSD-gnats-submit@freebsd.org>; Wed, 29 Aug 2001 05:51:19 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from proot@iaces.com) Received: (from proot@localhost) by iaces.com (8.11.4/8.11.4) id f7TCpJg23252; Wed, 29 Aug 2001 07:51:19 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from proot) Message-Id: <200108291251.f7TCpJg23252@iaces.com> Date: Wed, 29 Aug 2001 07:51:19 -0500 (CDT) From: "Paul T. Root" <proot@iaces.com> Reply-To: "Paul T. Root" <proot@iaces.com> To: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@freebsd.org X-Send-Pr-Version: 3.113 Subject: docs/30191: Broken links in porters handbook Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: <freebsd-doc.FreeBSD.ORG> List-Archive: <http://docs.freebsd.org/mail/> (Web Archive) List-Help: <mailto:majordomo@FreeBSD.ORG?subject=help> (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: <mailto:majordomo@FreeBSD.ORG?subject=subscribe%20freebsd-doc> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:majordomo@FreeBSD.ORG?subject=unsubscribe%20freebsd-doc> X-Loop: FreeBSD.org >Number: 30191 >Category: docs >Synopsis: Broken links in porters handbook >Confidential: no >Severity: serious >Priority: low >Responsible: freebsd-doc >State: open >Quarter: >Keywords: >Date-Required: >Class: doc-bug >Submitter-Id: current-users >Arrival-Date: Wed Aug 29 06:00:01 PDT 2001 >Closed-Date: >Last-Modified: >Originator: Paul T. Root >Release: FreeBSD 4.3-STABLE i386 >Organization: Qwest >Environment: System: FreeBSD horton.iaces.com 4.3-STABLE FreeBSD 4.3-STABLE #2: Wed Jul 11 10:01:22 CDT 2001 root@horton.iaces.com:/src/obj/src/src/sys/HORTON i386 >Description: There are a number of broken links in the porters handbook, which made figuring out how to submit a port challenging. >How-To-Repeat: The file: http://www.FreeBSD.org/porters-handbook/x54.html does not exist at this server. YOu are coming from: http://www.FreeBSD.org/porters-handbook/quick-porting.html#AEN45 There are a number of others, but I bet it's all the same problem. >Fix: Sorry, I have no idea. >Release-Note: >Audit-Trail: >Unformatted: To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Wed Aug 29 7:14: 7 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mclean.mail.mindspring.net (mclean.mail.mindspring.net [207.69.200.57]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AEB7937B401 for <freebsd-doc@freebsd.org>; Wed, 29 Aug 2001 07:14:04 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mvh@ix.netcom.com) Received: from netcom1.netcom.com (user-2inite8.dialup.mindspring.com [165.121.117.200]) by mclean.mail.mindspring.net (8.9.3/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA13944 for <freebsd-doc@freebsd.org>; Wed, 29 Aug 2001 10:14:03 -0400 (EDT) Received: by netcom1.netcom.com (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 1A08613121; Wed, 29 Aug 2001 07:14:01 -0700 (PDT) From: Mike Harding <mvh@ix.netcom.com> To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Subject: handbook pdf page number messed up Message-Id: <20010829141401.1A08613121@netcom1.netcom.com> Date: Wed, 29 Aug 2001 07:14:01 -0700 (PDT) Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: <freebsd-doc.FreeBSD.ORG> List-Archive: <http://docs.freebsd.org/mail/> (Web Archive) List-Help: <mailto:majordomo@FreeBSD.ORG?subject=help> (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: <mailto:majordomo@FreeBSD.ORG?subject=subscribe%20freebsd-doc> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:majordomo@FreeBSD.ORG?subject=unsubscribe%20freebsd-doc> X-Loop: FreeBSD.org If you check the handbook pdf, the page numbering is messed up - it starts with page 1 in the preface, and chapter 2 starts over with page 1. Is this a new issue? The FAQ has the same problem, is this generic? I didn't check any more files as I have only a modem link. We are thinking of using docbook for internal documents, but it will of course be easier to sell if the page numbering is correct... Thanks, Mike H. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Wed Aug 29 7:58:17 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from nef.ens.fr (nef.ens.fr [129.199.96.32]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B6C3B37B408; Wed, 29 Aug 2001 07:58:11 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from Rahul.Siddharthan@lpt.ens.fr) Received: from corto.lpt.ens.fr (corto.lpt.ens.fr [129.199.122.2]) by nef.ens.fr (8.10.1/1.01.28121999) with ESMTP id f7TEw9m86417 ; Wed, 29 Aug 2001 16:58:09 +0200 (CEST) Received: from (rsidd@localhost) by corto.lpt.ens.fr (8.9.3/jtpda-5.3.1) id QAA07321 ; Wed, 29 Aug 2001 16:58:09 +0200 (CEST) Date: Wed, 29 Aug 2001 16:58:09 +0200 From: Rahul Siddharthan <rsidd@physics.iisc.ernet.in> To: Nik Clayton <nik@FreeBSD.ORG> Cc: doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Integrating the docs with KDE and GNOME Message-ID: <20010829165809.A7094@lpt.ens.fr> References: <20010829123022.R46201@clan.nothing-going-on.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <20010829123022.R46201@clan.nothing-going-on.org>; from nik@FreeBSD.ORG on Wed, Aug 29, 2001 at 12:30:22PM +0100 X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 3.4-STABLE i386 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: <freebsd-doc.FreeBSD.ORG> List-Archive: <http://docs.freebsd.org/mail/> (Web Archive) List-Help: <mailto:majordomo@FreeBSD.ORG?subject=help> (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: <mailto:majordomo@FreeBSD.ORG?subject=subscribe%20freebsd-doc> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:majordomo@FreeBSD.ORG?subject=unsubscribe%20freebsd-doc> X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Nik Clayton said on Aug 29, 2001 at 12:30:22: > In theory, the format of the *.desktop files is identical between KDE > and GNOME, so, modulo a couple of path changes, this should work for > GNOME as well. I don't run GNOME locally, so patches would be > appreciated. I haven't figured out the format of the makefiles etc so it's better if you do this, I think, but here's the information: There seems to be no "standard location" for these .desktop entries in the GNOME help system. The main GNOME help page is launched by clicking on the help icon (which is a .desktop file), but the further links are not (as far as I can see) .desktop files. So the best bet seems to me to be: put this stuff in the file /usr/X11R6/share/gnome/apps/handbook.desktop (using the default of the FreeBSD GNOME port) and the file should contain (slightly different format from KDE) --------------------- [Desktop Entry] Icon=gnome-help.png Name=FreeBSD Handbook Terminal=0 Exec=gnome-help-browser /usr/share/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/index.html --------------------- This will create an entry in the main -> Programs menu for the FreeBSD handbook, with the same icon as the GNOME help system. This works for me. I'm not sure how to extend this to entries for other languages. Rather than have this in the doc makefile, would it be a better idea to get it inserted into the KDE and GNOME ports? That way, if the port maintainers decide to shuffle the default installation areas around, it's up to them to keep track; and not everyone runs KDE or GNOME either. - Rahul To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Wed Aug 29 8:49:49 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from sv10.batelco.com.bh (newsv10.batelco.com.bh [193.188.97.193]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 00D2937B401 for <freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG>; Wed, 29 Aug 2001 08:49:42 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from someone@batelco.com.bh) Received: from Test ([217.17.229.105]) by sv10.batelco.com.bh (Post.Office MTA v3.5.3 release 223 ID# 1006-71967U32000L32000S0V35) with SMTP id bh for <freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG>; Wed, 29 Aug 2001 18:48:20 +0300 Message-ID: <000801c130a2$c3575400$69e511d9@Test> From: "DeskPro" <someone@batelco.com.bh> To: <freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG> Subject: ali Date: Wed, 29 Aug 2001 18:53:34 +0300 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0005_01C130BB.E77F9400" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: <freebsd-doc.FreeBSD.ORG> List-Archive: <http://docs.freebsd.org/mail/> (Web Archive) List-Help: <mailto:majordomo@FreeBSD.ORG?subject=help> (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: <mailto:majordomo@FreeBSD.ORG?subject=subscribe%20freebsd-doc> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:majordomo@FreeBSD.ORG?subject=unsubscribe%20freebsd-doc> X-Loop: FreeBSD.org This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0005_01C130BB.E77F9400 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1256" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable snoopcat@hotmail.com ------=_NextPart_000_0005_01C130BB.E77F9400 Content-Type: text/html; charset="windows-1256" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"> <HTML><HEAD> <META content=3D"text/html; charset=3Dwindows-1256" = http-equiv=3DContent-Type> <META content=3D"MSHTML 5.00.2614.3500" name=3DGENERATOR> <STYLE></STYLE> </HEAD> <BODY bgColor=3D#ffffff> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><A=20 href=3D"mailto:snoopcat@hotmail.com">snoopcat@hotmail.com</A></FONT></DIV= > <DIV> </DIV></BODY></HTML> ------=_NextPart_000_0005_01C130BB.E77F9400-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Wed Aug 29 12: 5: 4 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mao.stokely.org (mao.stokely.org [65.84.64.228]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CBC7C37B405 for <freebsd-doc@freebsd.org>; Wed, 29 Aug 2001 12:05:02 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from murray@stokely.org) Received: by mao.stokely.org (Postfix, from userid 2074) id EBE5F4B65D; Wed, 29 Aug 2001 12:10:35 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 29 Aug 2001 12:10:35 -0700 From: Murray Stokely <murray.stokely@windriver.com> To: Mike Harding <mvh@ix.netcom.com> Cc: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: handbook pdf page number messed up Message-ID: <20010829121035.E25514@windriver.com> References: <20010829141401.1A08613121@netcom1.netcom.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <20010829141401.1A08613121@netcom1.netcom.com>; from mvh@ix.netcom.com on Wed, Aug 29, 2001 at 07:14:01AM -0700 X-GPG-Key-ID: 1024D/0E451F7D X-GPG-Key-Fingerprint: E2CA 411D DD44 53FD BB4B 3CB5 B4D7 10A2 0E45 1F7D Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: <freebsd-doc.FreeBSD.ORG> List-Archive: <http://docs.freebsd.org/mail/> (Web Archive) List-Help: <mailto:majordomo@FreeBSD.ORG?subject=help> (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: <mailto:majordomo@FreeBSD.ORG?subject=subscribe%20freebsd-doc> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:majordomo@FreeBSD.ORG?subject=unsubscribe%20freebsd-doc> X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Wed, Aug 29, 2001 at 07:14:01AM -0700, Mike Harding wrote: > If you check the handbook pdf, the page numbering is messed up - it > starts with page 1 in the preface, and chapter 2 starts over with page > 1. Is this a new issue? The FAQ has the same problem, is this > generic? I didn't check any more files as I have only a modem link. > We are thinking of using docbook for internal documents, but it will > of course be easier to sell if the page numbering is correct... This is easy to fix with a new version of JadeTeX. See the list archives for the DocBook-apps mailing list. - Murray To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Wed Aug 29 13:20:14 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 23A7037B409 for <freebsd-doc@freebsd.org>; Wed, 29 Aug 2001 13:20:02 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.11.4/8.11.4) id f7TKK2w95141; Wed, 29 Aug 2001 13:20:02 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats) Received: from postfix2-1.free.fr (postfix2-1.free.fr [213.228.0.9]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 541D937B401 for <FreeBSD-gnats-submit@freebsd.org>; Wed, 29 Aug 2001 13:11:04 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from rsidd@lpt.ens.fr) Received: from bluerondo.a.la.turk (nas-cbv-2-28-238.dial.proxad.net [213.228.28.238]) by postfix2-1.free.fr (Postfix) with SMTP id 6E6A01C8 for <FreeBSD-gnats-submit@freebsd.org>; Wed, 29 Aug 2001 22:10:23 +0200 (CEST) Received: (qmail 13705 invoked by uid 1001); 29 Aug 2001 20:08:44 -0000 Message-Id: <20010829200844.13704.qmail@bluerondo.a.la.turk> Date: 29 Aug 2001 20:08:44 -0000 From: Rahul Siddharthan <rsidd@physics.iisc.ernet.in> Reply-To: Rahul Siddharthan <rsidd@physics.iisc.ernet.in> To: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@freebsd.org X-Send-Pr-Version: 3.113 Subject: docs/30199: documentation on installing on laptops Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: <freebsd-doc.FreeBSD.ORG> List-Archive: <http://docs.freebsd.org/mail/> (Web Archive) List-Help: <mailto:majordomo@FreeBSD.ORG?subject=help> (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: <mailto:majordomo@FreeBSD.ORG?subject=subscribe%20freebsd-doc> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:majordomo@FreeBSD.ORG?subject=unsubscribe%20freebsd-doc> X-Loop: FreeBSD.org >Number: 30199 >Category: docs >Synopsis: documentation on installing on laptops >Confidential: no >Severity: non-critical >Priority: medium >Responsible: freebsd-doc >State: open >Quarter: >Keywords: >Date-Required: >Class: change-request >Submitter-Id: current-users >Arrival-Date: Wed Aug 29 13:20:01 PDT 2001 >Closed-Date: >Last-Modified: >Originator: Rahul Siddharthan >Release: FreeBSD 4.4-PRERELEASE i386 >Organization: >Environment: >Description: I suggested having an article or handbook section dedicated to laptop issues, and posted a first shot at one on the -doc list (very limited but hopefully others will add to it from their experience). In response to nik's suggestion of send-pr'ing it in sgml format as an article, here it is, a little expanded. >How-To-Repeat: >Fix: <!DOCTYPE ARTICLE PUBLIC "-//FreeBSD//DTD DocBook V4.1-Based Extension//EN"> <article> <articleinfo> <title>FreeBSD on Laptops FreeBSD works fine on most laptops, with a few caveats. Some issues specific to running FreeBSD on laptops, relating to different hardware requirements from desktops, are discussed below. FreeBSD is often thought of as a server operating system, but it works just fine on the desktop, and if you want to use it on your laptop you can enjoy all the usual benefits: systematic layout, easy administration and upgrading, the ports/packages system for adding software, and so on. (Its other benefits, such as stability, network performance, and performance under a heavy load, may not be obvious on a laptop, of course.) However, installing it on laptops often involves problems which are not encountered on desktop machines and are not commonly discussed (laptops, even more than desktops, are fine-tuned for Microsoft Windows). This article aims to discuss some of these issues. XFree86 Recent versions of XFree86 work with most display adapters available on laptops these days. Acceleration may not be supported, but a generic SVGA configuration should work. Check your laptop documentation for which card you have, and check in the XFree86 documentation (or setup program) to see whether it's specifically supported. If it's not, use a generic device (don't go for a name which just looks similar). In XFree86 version 4, you can try your luck with the command XFree86 -configure which auto-detects a lot of configurations. The problem often is configuring the monitor. Common resources for XFree86 focus on CRT monitors; getting a suitable modeline for an LCD display may be tricky. You may be lucky and not need to specify a modeline, or just need to specify suitable HorizSync and VertRefresh ranges. If that doesn't work, the best option is to check web resources devoted to configuring X on laptops (these are often linux-oriented sites but it doesn't matter because both systems use XFree86) and copy a modeline posted by someone for similar hardware. Most laptops come with two buttons on their pointing devices, which is rather problematic in X (since the middle button is commonly used to paste text); you can map a simultaneous left-right click in your X configuration to a middle button click with the line Option "Emulate3Buttons" in the XF86Config file in the "InputDevice" section (for XFree86 version 4; for version 3, put just the line "Emulate3Buttons", without the quotes, in the "Pointer" section.) Modems Laptops usually come with internal (on-board) modems. Unfortunately, this almost always means they are "winmodems" whose functionality is implemented in software, for which only windows drivers are normally available (though a few drivers are beginning to show up for other operating systems). Otherwise, you need to buy an external modem: the most compact option is probably a PC-Card (PCMCIA) modem, discussed below, but serial or USB modems may be cheaper. Generally, regular modems (non-winmodems) should work fine. PCMCIA (PC-card) devices Most laptops come with PCMCIA (also called PC-card) slots; these are supported fine under FreeBSD. Look through your boot-up messages (using dmesg) and see whether these were detected correctly (they should appear as pccard0, pccard1 etc on devices like pcic0). FreeBSD currently supports 16-bit PCMCIA cards, but not 32-bit ("CardBus") cards. A database of supported cards is in the file /etc/defaults/pccard.conf. Look through it, and preferably buy cards listed there. Cards not listed may also work as "generic" devices: in particular most modems (16-bit) should work fine, provided they're not winmodems (these do exist even as PC-cards, so watch out). If your card is recognised as a generic modem, note that the default pccard.conf file specifies a delay time of 10 seconds (to avoid freezes on certain modems); this may well be over-cautious for your modem, so you may want to play with it, reducing it or removing it totally. Some parts of pccard.conf may need editing. Check the irq line, and be sure to remove any number already being used: in particular, if you have an on board sound card, remove irq 5 (otherwise you may experience hangs when you insert a card). Check also the available memory slots; if your card is not being detected, try changing it to one of the other allowed values (listed in the man page pccardc(8)). If it's not running already, start the pccardd daemon. (To enable it at boot time, add pccardd_enable="YES" to /etc/rc.conf). Now your cards should be detected when you insert and remove them, and you should get log messages about new devices being enabled. There have been major changes to the pccard code (including ISA routing of interrupts, for machines whose PCIBIOS FreeBSD can't seem to use) before the FreeBSD 4.4 release. If you have problems, try upgrading your system. Power management Unfortunately, this is not very reliably supported under FreeBSD. If you're lucky, some functions may work reliably; or they may not work at all. To enable this, you may need to compile a kernel with power management support (device apm0) or add an option to /boot/loader.conf, and also enable the apm daemon at boot time (line apm_enable="YES" in /etc/rc.conf). The apm commands are listed in the apm(8) manpage. For instance, apm -b gives you battery status (or 255 if not supported), apm -Z puts the laptop on standby, apm -z (or zzz) suspends it. To shutdown and power off the machine, use "shutdown -p". Again, some or all of these functions may not work very well or at all. You may find that laptop suspension/standby works in console mode but not under X (that is, the screen doesn't come on again; in that case, switch to a virtual console (using ctrl-alt-F1 or another function key) and then execute the apm command. The X window system (XFree86) also includes display power management (look at the xset(1) man page, and search for dpms there). You may want to investigate this. However, this, too, works inconsistently on laptops: it often turns off the display but doesn't turn off the backlight. >Release-Note: >Audit-Trail: >Unformatted: To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Wed Aug 29 14: 0:14 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9E96537B407 for ; Wed, 29 Aug 2001 14:00:10 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.11.4/8.11.4) id f7TL0AA99778; Wed, 29 Aug 2001 14:00:10 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats) Received: from blackhelicopters.org (geburah.blackhelicopters.org [209.69.178.18]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2687837B401 for ; Wed, 29 Aug 2001 13:59:26 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mwlucas@blackhelicopters.org) Received: (from mwlucas@localhost) by blackhelicopters.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id QAA04248; Wed, 29 Aug 2001 16:59:25 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from mwlucas) Message-Id: <200108292059.QAA04248@blackhelicopters.org> Date: Wed, 29 Aug 2001 16:59:25 -0400 (EDT) From: mwlucas@blackhelicopters.org Reply-To: mwlucas@blackhelicopters.org To: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@freebsd.org X-Send-Pr-Version: 3.2 Subject: docs/30202: "supported SCSI devices" section of FAQ inaccurate Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org >Number: 30202 >Category: docs >Synopsis: pointer to pointer to information >Confidential: no >Severity: non-critical >Priority: low >Responsible: freebsd-doc >State: open >Quarter: >Keywords: >Date-Required: >Class: change-request >Submitter-Id: current-users >Arrival-Date: Wed Aug 29 14:00:04 PDT 2001 >Closed-Date: >Last-Modified: >Originator: Michael Lucas >Release: FreeBSD 3.5-STABLE i386 >Organization: None >Environment: -doc tree, supped last night >Description: The FAQ says to check the Handbook for the supported SCSI device list. The Handbook says to check the release notes. Wouldn't it be simpler to just point to the release notes? >How-To-Repeat: read the FAQ. The fix below points to the www site containing links to all the release notes. It appears that's the only place where truly "current" relnotes are available for all releases. >Fix: *** book.sgml-dist Wed Aug 29 13:19:01 2001 --- book.sgml Wed Aug 29 14:17:34 2001 *************** *** 2381,2387 **** See the complete list in the Handbook. --- 2381,2390 ---- See the complete list in the Release ! Notes for the version of FreeBSD being ! installed. ! >Release-Note: >Audit-Trail: >Unformatted: To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Wed Aug 29 14: 8:45 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from blackhelicopters.org (geburah.blackhelicopters.org [209.69.178.18]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B1D1D37B401 for ; Wed, 29 Aug 2001 14:08:43 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mwlucas@blackhelicopters.org) Received: (from mwlucas@localhost) by blackhelicopters.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id RAA04404; Wed, 29 Aug 2001 17:08:40 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from mwlucas) Date: Wed, 29 Aug 2001 17:08:40 -0400 From: Michael Lucas To: Morsal Roudbay Cc: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Swedish documentation? Message-ID: <20010829170840.A4375@blackhelicopters.org> References: <20010820125013.A62757@zigman.2y.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2i In-Reply-To: <20010820125013.A62757@zigman.2y.net>; from morsal@swipnet.se on Mon, Aug 20, 2001 at 12:50:14PM +0200 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org As a long-time doc lurker, I'm not aware of any Swedish translations. Grab a chapter! On Mon, Aug 20, 2001 at 12:50:14PM +0200, Morsal Roudbay wrote: > Hi > I havent seen any Swedish documentation so I was wondering if someone has > started translating or not... I'd like to help out. > > Morsal > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message -- Michael Lucas mwlucas@blackhelicopters.org http://www.blackhelicopters.org/~mwlucas/ Big Scary Daemons: http://www.oreillynet.com/pub/q/Big_Scary_Daemons To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Wed Aug 29 14:10:35 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4D83737B406 for ; Wed, 29 Aug 2001 14:10:07 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.11.4/8.11.4) id f7TLA7p03843; Wed, 29 Aug 2001 14:10:07 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats) Received: from blackhelicopters.org (geburah.blackhelicopters.org [209.69.178.18]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 77C9E37B406 for ; Wed, 29 Aug 2001 14:06:43 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mwlucas@blackhelicopters.org) Received: (from mwlucas@localhost) by blackhelicopters.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id RAA04371; Wed, 29 Aug 2001 17:06:42 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from mwlucas) Message-Id: <200108292106.RAA04371@blackhelicopters.org> Date: Wed, 29 Aug 2001 17:06:42 -0400 (EDT) From: mwlucas@blackhelicopters.org Reply-To: mwlucas@blackhelicopters.org To: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@freebsd.org X-Send-Pr-Version: 3.2 Subject: docs/30203: description of security profiles in FAQ is just plain wrong Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org >Number: 30203 >Category: docs >Synopsis: description of security profiles in FAQ is just plain wrong >Confidential: no >Severity: non-critical >Priority: low >Responsible: freebsd-doc >State: open >Quarter: >Keywords: >Date-Required: >Class: change-request >Submitter-Id: current-users >Arrival-Date: Wed Aug 29 14:10:07 PDT 2001 >Closed-Date: >Last-Modified: >Originator: Michael Lucas >Release: FreeBSD 3.5-STABLE i386 >Organization: None >Environment: current -doc tree >Description: Robert Watson recently took an axe to the security profiles available in sysinstall. There are now only two profiles available, moderate & extreme. This is my first -doc patch prepared entirely from reading actual source code, instead of from reading mailing lists. As such, I'm fully prepared to be told that I'm wrong. I've also cleaned up a couple of sentences and corrected some grammar. While I might be wrong on source code, I do know that using both a colon and a semicolon in one sentence is ugly. >How-To-Repeat: read the source of sysinstall >Fix: *** book.sgml-dist Wed Aug 29 13:19:01 2001 --- book.sgml Wed Aug 29 13:44:25 2001 *************** *** 2175,2229 **** ! A security profile is a set of configuration ! options that attempts to achieve the desired ratio of security ! to convenience by enabling and disabling certain programs and ! other settings. The more severe the security profile, the less ! programs will be enabled by default; this is one of the basic ! principles of security: do not run anything except what you ! must. ! ! Please note that the security profile is just a default ! setting. All programs can be enabled and disabled after you have ! installed FreeBSD by editing or adding the appropriate line(s) ! to /etc/rc.conf. For more information on ! the latter, please see the &man.rc.conf.5; manual page. ! ! Following is a table that describes what each security ! profile does. The columns are the choices you have for a ! security profile, and the rows are the program or feature that ! is enabled or disabled. Possible security profiles ! Extreme - High - Moderate - Low - - &man.inetd.8; - - NO - - NO - - YES - - YES - &man.sendmail.8; --- 2175,2216 ---- ! A security profile is a set of ! configuration options that attempts to achieve the desired ! ratio of security to convenience by enabling and disabling ! certain programs and other settings. The more severe the ! security profile, the fewer programs will be enabled by ! default. This is one of the basic principles of security: ! do not run anything except what you must. ! ! Please note that the security profile is just a ! default setting. All programs can be enabled or disabled ! after you have installed FreeBSD by editing or adding the ! appropriate line(s) to /etc/rc.conf. ! For more information, please see the &man.rc.conf.5; ! manual page. ! ! Following is a table that describes what each of the ! security profiles does. The columns are the choices you ! have for a security profile, and the rows are the program ! or feature that the profile enables or disables.
Possible security profiles ! Extreme Moderate &man.sendmail.8; *************** *** 2232,2240 **** YES - YES - - YES --- 2219,2224 ---- *************** *** 2244,2252 **** YES - YES - - YES --- 2228,2233 ---- *************** *** 2254,2261 **** NO - NO - MAYBE The portmapper is enabled if the machine has been configured as an NFS client or server earlier in the --- 2235,2240 ---- *************** *** 2263,2269 **** - YES --- 2242,2247 ---- *************** *** 2271,2281 **** NO - NO - YES - YES --- 2249,2256 ---- *************** *** 2291,2315 **** - YES (1) - NO - NO
! The security profile is not a silver bullet! Setting ! it high does not mean you do not have to keep up with security ! issues by reading an appropriate mailing ! list, using good passwords and passphrases, and ! generally adhering to good security practices. It simply ! sets up the desired security to convenience ratio out of ! the box. --- 2266,2288 ---- NO ! The security profile is not a silver bullet! ! Even the extreme setting does not mean you do not ! have to keep up with security issues by reading an ! appropriate mailing ! list, using good passwords and passphrases, ! and generally adhering to good security practices. ! It simply sets up the desired security to convenience ! ratio out of the box. >Release-Note: >Audit-Trail: >Unformatted: To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Wed Aug 29 23:54:37 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from hotmail.com (f37.law4.hotmail.com [216.33.149.37]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D84F437B407 for ; Wed, 29 Aug 2001 23:54:34 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from legend_420@hotmail.com) Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Wed, 29 Aug 2001 23:54:34 -0700 Received: from 65.26.102.195 by lw4fd.law4.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Thu, 30 Aug 2001 06:54:34 GMT X-Originating-IP: [65.26.102.195] From: "-=Legend=- ." To: doc@freebsd.org Subject: Installation Guide Correction Date: Thu, 30 Aug 2001 06:54:34 +0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 30 Aug 2001 06:54:34.0773 (UTC) FILETIME=[A0B0A450:01C13120] Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Upon running through your installation guide, under the pre-installation/boot disk section you mention using the fdimage program to image under MS-DOS. You should know, and consequently note in the guide, that fdimage also works in an NT/Win2k shell window. Keep up the good work. -Matthew Alford _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Thu Aug 30 0:46:14 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E6ED437B409; Thu, 30 Aug 2001 00:46:10 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dd@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from dd@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.11.4/8.11.4) id f7U7bZ275711; Thu, 30 Aug 2001 00:37:35 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dd) Date: Thu, 30 Aug 2001 00:37:35 -0700 (PDT) From: Message-Id: <200108300737.f7U7bZ275711@freefall.freebsd.org> To: dd@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-doc@freebsd.org, dd@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: docs/30202: pointer to pointer to information Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Synopsis: pointer to pointer to information Responsible-Changed-From-To: freebsd-doc->dd Responsible-Changed-By: dd Responsible-Changed-When: Thu Aug 30 00:37:03 PDT 2001 Responsible-Changed-Why: This is a good change in theory, but I don't like the new URL. The real release notes should be on the web site soon, and when that happens I'll fix the URL and commit this. http://www.FreeBSD.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=30202 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Thu Aug 30 0:50: 5 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6C12437B406 for ; Thu, 30 Aug 2001 00:50:01 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.11.4/8.11.4) id f7U7o1183137; Thu, 30 Aug 2001 00:50:01 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats) Date: Thu, 30 Aug 2001 00:50:01 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <200108300750.f7U7o1183137@freefall.freebsd.org> To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Cc: From: Dima Dorfman Subject: Re: docs/30199: documentation on installing on laptops Reply-To: Dima Dorfman Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org The following reply was made to PR docs/30199; it has been noted by GNATS. From: Dima Dorfman To: Rahul Siddharthan Cc: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@freebsd.org, nik@freebsd.org Subject: Re: docs/30199: documentation on installing on laptops Date: Thu, 30 Aug 2001 00:39:57 -0700 Rahul Siddharthan wrote: > >Description: > I suggested having an article or handbook section dedicated to > laptop issues, and posted a first shot at one on the -doc list > (very limited but hopefully others will add to it from their > experience). In response to nik's suggestion of send-pr'ing it > in sgml format as an article, here it is, a little expanded. Modulo fixing some of the markup (incorrect use of , manual page entities, and other minor stuff like that), is there any reason not to import this now? It may not be complete as you say, but having it in CVS will make it easier for others to contribute. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Thu Aug 30 1:40: 6 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3908D37B405 for ; Thu, 30 Aug 2001 01:40:02 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.11.4/8.11.4) id f7U8e2k10730; Thu, 30 Aug 2001 01:40:02 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats) Date: Thu, 30 Aug 2001 01:40:02 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <200108300840.f7U8e2k10730@freefall.freebsd.org> To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Cc: From: Rahul Siddharthan Subject: Re: docs/30199: documentation on installing on laptops Reply-To: Rahul Siddharthan Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org The following reply was made to PR docs/30199; it has been noted by GNATS. From: Rahul Siddharthan To: Dima Dorfman Cc: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@freebsd.org, nik@freebsd.org Subject: Re: docs/30199: documentation on installing on laptops Date: Thu, 30 Aug 2001 10:30:00 +0200 Dima Dorfman said on Aug 30, 2001 at 00:39:57: > > Modulo fixing some of the markup (incorrect use of , > manual page entities, and other minor stuff like that), is there any > reason not to import this now? It may not be complete as you say, but > having it in CVS will make it easier for others to contribute. Afaiac, no reason not to. Go ahead... R To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Thu Aug 30 1:52:46 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (pc-62-31-42-140-hy.blueyonder.co.uk [62.31.42.140]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D629C37B407 for ; Thu, 30 Aug 2001 01:52:38 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nik@nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk) Received: (from nik@localhost) by nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (8.11.3/8.11.3) id f7U8P7e85118; Thu, 30 Aug 2001 09:25:07 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from nik) Date: Thu, 30 Aug 2001 09:25:07 +0100 From: Nik Clayton To: Dima Dorfman Cc: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: docs/30199: documentation on installing on laptops Message-ID: <20010830092507.A46201@clan.nothing-going-on.org> References: <200108300750.f7U7o1183137@freefall.freebsd.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-md5; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="ORQ7wZOtrZMMlBRp" Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <200108300750.f7U7o1183137@freefall.freebsd.org>; from dima@unixfreak.org on Thu, Aug 30, 2001 at 12:50:01AM -0700 Organization: FreeBSD Project Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org --ORQ7wZOtrZMMlBRp Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Thu, Aug 30, 2001 at 12:50:01AM -0700, Dima Dorfman wrote: > The following reply was made to PR docs/30199; it has been noted by GNATS. >=20 > From: Dima Dorfman > To: Rahul Siddharthan > Cc: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@freebsd.org, nik@freebsd.org > Subject: Re: docs/30199: documentation on installing on laptops=20 > Date: Thu, 30 Aug 2001 00:39:57 -0700 >=20 > Rahul Siddharthan wrote: > > >Description: > > I suggested having an article or handbook section dedicated to=20 > > laptop issues, and posted a first shot at one on the -doc list= =20 > > (very limited but hopefully others will add to it from their > > experience). In response to nik's suggestion of send-pr'ing i= t=20 > > in sgml format as an article, here it is, a little expanded. > =20 > Modulo fixing some of the markup (incorrect use of , > manual page entities, and other minor stuff like that), is there any > reason not to import this now? It may not be complete as you say, but > having it in CVS will make it easier for others to contribute. Handbook section or article? I'm leaning towards article myself. I think it's probably a bad idea to have=20 ... If you have a laptop, you also need to be aware of the=20 following ... scattered through the Handbook. N --=20 FreeBSD: The Power to Serve http://www.freebsd.org/ FreeBSD Documentation Project http://www.freebsd.org/docproj/ --- 15B8 3FFC DDB4 34B0 AA5F 94B7 93A8 0764 2C37 E375 --- --ORQ7wZOtrZMMlBRp Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (FreeBSD) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iEYEARECAAYFAjuN+GMACgkQk6gHZCw343XFpQCcCfS65kOUPdflkeC0GuQgHBy8 RxQAn2ksRW686wBdpZ4tATBrTzlb2a25 =ys7g -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --ORQ7wZOtrZMMlBRp-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Thu Aug 30 2: 9:19 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from nef.ens.fr (nef.ens.fr [129.199.96.32]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DBB0A37B407; Thu, 30 Aug 2001 02:09:14 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from Rahul.Siddharthan@lpt.ens.fr) Received: from corto.lpt.ens.fr (corto.lpt.ens.fr [129.199.122.2]) by nef.ens.fr (8.10.1/1.01.28121999) with ESMTP id f7U99Am54588 ; Thu, 30 Aug 2001 11:09:10 +0200 (CEST) Received: from (rsidd@localhost) by corto.lpt.ens.fr (8.9.3/jtpda-5.3.1) id LAA42815 ; Thu, 30 Aug 2001 11:09:09 +0200 (CEST) Date: Thu, 30 Aug 2001 11:09:09 +0200 From: Rahul Siddharthan To: Nik Clayton Cc: Dima Dorfman , freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: docs/30199: documentation on installing on laptops Message-ID: <20010830110909.A42625@lpt.ens.fr> References: <200108300750.f7U7o1183137@freefall.freebsd.org> <20010830092507.A46201@clan.nothing-going-on.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <20010830092507.A46201@clan.nothing-going-on.org>; from nik@FreeBSD.ORG on Thu, Aug 30, 2001 at 09:25:07AM +0100 X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 3.4-STABLE i386 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Nik Clayton said on Aug 30, 2001 at 09:25:07: > Handbook section or article? Maybe article to begin with, make it a handbook section if it grows sufficiently? > I'm leaning towards article myself. I think it's probably a bad idea to > have > ... > > If you have a laptop, you also need to be aware of the > following ... > > scattered through the Handbook. That's a bad idea but I don't see why it's necessary if there's a separate section on laptops. As I see it, there's practically nothing on laptops in the handbook currently. To remedy that, one either scatters such lines throughout the handbook, or has a separate section. Not both, I think. - Rahul. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Thu Aug 30 3:10:28 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BED1837B407 for ; Thu, 30 Aug 2001 03:10:24 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.11.4/8.11.4) id f7UAA4N26741; Thu, 30 Aug 2001 03:10:04 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats) Date: Thu, 30 Aug 2001 03:10:04 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <200108301010.f7UAA4N26741@freefall.freebsd.org> To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Cc: From: Dima Dorfman Subject: Re: docs/30110: Developers handbook/tools: updated information Reply-To: Dima Dorfman Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org The following reply was made to PR docs/30110; it has been noted by GNATS. From: Dima Dorfman To: Rahul Siddharthan Cc: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@freebsd.org Subject: Re: docs/30110: Developers handbook/tools: updated information Date: Thu, 30 Aug 2001 03:05:15 -0700 Rahul Siddharthan wrote: > *** chapter.sgml Sun Aug 26 19:29:36 2001 > --- chapter.sgml.new Sun Aug 26 19:32:36 2001 > *************** > *** 262,277 **** > are rather unforgiving languages, and best suited to more > experienced programmers; Pascal, on the other hand, was > designed as an educational language, and is quite a good > ! language to start with. Unfortunately, FreeBSD doesn't have > ! any Pascal support, except for a Pascal-to-C converter in the > ! ports. > > As the edit-compile-run-debug cycle is rather tedious when > using separate programs, many commercial compiler makers have > produced Integrated Development Environments > > (IDEs for short). FreeBSD does not have an > ! IDE as such; however it is possible to use Emacs > for this purpose. This is discussed in linkend="emacs">. > > --- 262,278 ---- > are rather unforgiving languages, and best suited to more > experienced programmers; Pascal, on the other hand, was > designed as an educational language, and is quite a good > ! language to start with. FreeBSD doesn't have any Pascal support > ! in the base system, but the GNU Pascal compiler (gpc) is > ! available in the ports. Notice how the indentation is screwed up here. That's because the document uses tabs to indent, and you used spaces. Please don't do that. It looks like there are some other parts in this document that do that, but that doesn't make it right. There are similar problems below. Other than that, this looks pretty good. Thanks. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Thu Aug 30 3:10:37 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9583537B406 for ; Thu, 30 Aug 2001 03:10:24 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.11.4/8.11.4) id f7UAA2k26734; Thu, 30 Aug 2001 03:10:02 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats) Date: Thu, 30 Aug 2001 03:10:02 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <200108301010.f7UAA2k26734@freefall.freebsd.org> To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Cc: From: Dima Dorfman Subject: Re: docs/30203: description of security profiles in FAQ is just plain wrong Reply-To: Dima Dorfman Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org The following reply was made to PR docs/30203; it has been noted by GNATS. From: Dima Dorfman To: mwlucas@blackhelicopters.org Cc: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@freebsd.org Subject: Re: docs/30203: description of security profiles in FAQ is just plain wrong Date: Thu, 30 Aug 2001 03:00:25 -0700 mwlucas@blackhelicopters.org wrote: > >Fix: > > *** book.sgml-dist Wed Aug 29 13:19:01 2001 > --- book.sgml Wed Aug 29 13:44:25 2001 > *************** > *** 2175,2229 **** > > > > ! A security profile is a set of configuration > ! options that attempts to achieve the desired ratio of security > ! to convenience by enabling and disabling certain programs and > ! other settings. The more severe the security profile, the less > ! programs will be enabled by default; this is one of the basic > ! principles of security: do not run anything except what you > ! must. Why did all these lines get replaced? I can't tell what you changed except for the last sentence. Please try to minimize the amount of lines changed to make reviewers' and translators' lives easier. It's okay if the resulting paragraph isn't filled (e.g., some lines are too short, some overly long)--whoever commits it can fill it for you. The same applies to some of the other paragraphs. Other than that and a few minor markup nits, this looks pretty good. However, please submit the updated version (fixing the problem my previous paragraph describes) as a unified diff; that'd make it easier to read. Thanks. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Thu Aug 30 3:16:13 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9277F37B407; Thu, 30 Aug 2001 03:16:11 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dd@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from dd@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.11.4/8.11.4) id f7UAFPe27426; Thu, 30 Aug 2001 03:15:25 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dd) Date: Thu, 30 Aug 2001 03:15:25 -0700 (PDT) From: Message-Id: <200108301015.f7UAFPe27426@freefall.freebsd.org> To: reel@freebsd-fr.org, dd@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: docs/30068: is more appropriate to /dev/cuaa? in the PPP Primer Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Synopsis: is more appropriate to /dev/cuaa? in the PPP Primer State-Changed-From-To: open->closed State-Changed-By: dd State-Changed-When: Thu Aug 30 03:14:28 PDT 2001 State-Changed-Why: Patch applied, thanks. In the future, please submit the patch along with the original PR, and don't use MIME to attach it. Doing that will make it easier to find and apply it, respectively. http://www.FreeBSD.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=30068 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Thu Aug 30 4: 6:14 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4AE7437B405; Thu, 30 Aug 2001 04:06:11 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tom@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from tom@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.11.4/8.11.4) id f7UB0j737867; Thu, 30 Aug 2001 04:00:45 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tom) Date: Thu, 30 Aug 2001 04:00:45 -0700 (PDT) From: Message-Id: <200108301100.f7UB0j737867@freefall.freebsd.org> To: mharo@area51.fremont.ca.us, tom@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: docs/10997: Problem with query-pr-summary.cgi Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Synopsis: Problem with query-pr-summary.cgi State-Changed-From-To: open->feedback State-Changed-By: tom State-Changed-When: Thu Aug 30 03:57:01 PDT 2001 State-Changed-Why: This seems to have been fixed in version 1.27 of query-pr-summary.cgi, associated with misc/22191 - please can you confirm this is no longer a problem. http://www.FreeBSD.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=10997 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Thu Aug 30 4: 6:14 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 73A0237B406; Thu, 30 Aug 2001 04:06:11 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dd@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from dd@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.11.4/8.11.4) id f7UB4wV38669; Thu, 30 Aug 2001 04:04:58 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dd) Date: Thu, 30 Aug 2001 04:04:58 -0700 (PDT) From: Message-Id: <200108301104.f7UB4wV38669@freefall.freebsd.org> To: root@www-1.wr.usgs.gov, dd@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: docs/29842: Stilted language and improper puncuation in Dialup firewalling with FreeBSD article Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Synopsis: Stilted language and improper puncuation in Dialup firewalling with FreeBSD article State-Changed-From-To: open->closed State-Changed-By: dd State-Changed-When: Thu Aug 30 04:04:13 PDT 2001 State-Changed-Why: Patch applied, thanks. In the future, please remember to state which article the patch applies to! http://www.FreeBSD.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=29842 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Thu Aug 30 6:14:43 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from smtp6.mindspring.com (smtp6.mindspring.com [207.69.200.110]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9364A37B401 for ; Thu, 30 Aug 2001 06:14:40 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mvh@ix.netcom.com) Received: from netcom1.netcom.com (user-38ldmoj.dialup.mindspring.com [209.86.219.19]) by smtp6.mindspring.com (8.9.3/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA11798; Thu, 30 Aug 2001 09:14:36 -0400 (EDT) Received: by netcom1.netcom.com (Postfix, from userid 1000) id D6D9B13140; Thu, 30 Aug 2001 06:14:33 -0700 (PDT) From: Mike Harding To: murray.stokely@windriver.com Cc: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org In-reply-to: <20010829121035.E25514@windriver.com> (message from Murray Stokely on Wed, 29 Aug 2001 12:10:35 -0700) Subject: Re: handbook pdf page number messed up References: <20010829141401.1A08613121@netcom1.netcom.com> <20010829121035.E25514@windriver.com> Message-Id: <20010830131433.D6D9B13140@netcom1.netcom.com> Date: Thu, 30 Aug 2001 06:14:33 -0700 (PDT) Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Maybe so, but I have the latest JadeTeX port and the copy on www.freebsd.org has the same problem. Or do you mean that the port has to be updated? - Mike Harding Date: Wed, 29 Aug 2001 12:10:35 -0700 From: Murray Stokely Cc: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i X-GPG-Key-ID: 1024D/0E451F7D X-GPG-Key-Fingerprint: E2CA 411D DD44 53FD BB4B 3CB5 B4D7 10A2 0E45 1F7D X-SpamBouncer: 1.4 (8/05/01) X-SBClass: OK On Wed, Aug 29, 2001 at 07:14:01AM -0700, Mike Harding wrote: > If you check the handbook pdf, the page numbering is messed up - it > starts with page 1 in the preface, and chapter 2 starts over with page > 1. Is this a new issue? The FAQ has the same problem, is this > generic? I didn't check any more files as I have only a modem link. > We are thinking of using docbook for internal documents, but it will > of course be easier to sell if the page numbering is correct... This is easy to fix with a new version of JadeTeX. See the list archives for the DocBook-apps mailing list. - Murray To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Thu Aug 30 6:35:10 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mail.caramail.com (mail.caramail.com [195.68.99.70]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5554C37B40A for ; Thu, 30 Aug 2001 06:35:07 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from rapfi_b@caramail.com) Received: from caramail.com (www50.caramail.com [195.68.99.246]) by mail.caramail.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id PAA06631 for freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org; Thu, 30 Aug 2001 15:34:53 +0200 (DST) Posted-Date: Thu, 30 Aug 2001 15:34:53 +0200 (DST) From: Tupac Shakur To: , .@FreeBSD.ORG Message-ID: <999178493013324@caramail.com> X-Mailer: Caramail - www.caramail.com X-Originating-IP: [193.251.175.36] Mime-Version: 1.0 Subject: Bonjour Date: Thu, 30 Aug 2001 15:34:53 GMT+1 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="=_NextPart_Caramail_013324999178493_ID" Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. --=_NextPart_Caramail_013324999178493_ID Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Bonjour je voudrer bien savoir ou je peut trouver freebsd le cd rom parceque en ma dit qu'il =E9tait gratuit. Merci davence pour le renseignement . ______________________________________________________ Bo=EEte aux lettres - Caramail - http://www.caramail.com --=_NextPart_Caramail_013324999178493_ID-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Thu Aug 30 11: 8:32 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mao.stokely.org (mao.stokely.org [65.84.64.228]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 45B1837B405 for ; Thu, 30 Aug 2001 11:08:28 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from murray@stokely.org) Received: by mao.stokely.org (Postfix, from userid 2074) id 981FD4B65D; Thu, 30 Aug 2001 11:12:27 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 30 Aug 2001 11:12:27 -0700 From: Murray Stokely To: Mike Harding Cc: murray.stokely@windriver.com, freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: handbook pdf page number messed up Message-ID: <20010830111227.I24679@windriver.com> References: <20010829141401.1A08613121@netcom1.netcom.com> <20010829121035.E25514@windriver.com> <20010830131433.D6D9B13140@netcom1.netcom.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <20010830131433.D6D9B13140@netcom1.netcom.com>; from mvh@ix.netcom.com on Thu, Aug 30, 2001 at 06:14:33AM -0700 X-GPG-Key-ID: 1024D/0E451F7D X-GPG-Key-Fingerprint: E2CA 411D DD44 53FD BB4B 3CB5 B4D7 10A2 0E45 1F7D Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Thu, Aug 30, 2001 at 06:14:33AM -0700, Mike Harding wrote: > Maybe so, but I have the latest JadeTeX port and the copy on > www.freebsd.org has the same problem. Or do you mean that the port > has to be updated? You must also rewrite the first-chapter function in Norm's stylesheets. Again, see the DocBook-apps list (in particular, Ian Castle's postings of 1-2 months ago) - Murray To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Thu Aug 30 11:28:16 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from narro.uaaan.mx (narro.uaaan.mx [200.33.240.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 40F8237B401 for ; Thu, 30 Aug 2001 11:28:10 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kdealba@uaaan.mx) Received: from KARIM ([200.33.240.126]) by narro.uaaan.mx (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id NAA21870 for ; Thu, 30 Aug 2001 13:26:33 -0500 (CDT) Received: by KARIM with Microsoft Mail id <01C1314F.35857280@KARIM>; Thu, 30 Aug 2001 12:28:01 -0600 Message-ID: <01C1314F.35857280@KARIM> From: Karim de Alba Romenus To: "'doc@freebsd.org'" Subject: Installation Guide Date: Thu, 30 Aug 2001 12:27:59 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Dear Sirs, Where can I download the installation guide only? I would like to have = the same document you have in "../../handbook/install.html". I tried = your ftp, but I get I lot of files and I don't know which one is. Thank you very much To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Thu Aug 30 11:53:27 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (pc-62-31-42-140-hy.blueyonder.co.uk [62.31.42.140]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BA24E37B407 for ; Thu, 30 Aug 2001 11:53:12 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nik@nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk) Received: (from nik@localhost) by nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (8.11.3/8.11.3) id f7UImGg66511; Thu, 30 Aug 2001 19:48:16 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from nik) Date: Thu, 30 Aug 2001 19:48:16 +0100 From: Nik Clayton To: Murray Stokely Cc: Mike Harding , freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: handbook pdf page number messed up Message-ID: <20010830194816.F46201@clan.nothing-going-on.org> References: <20010829141401.1A08613121@netcom1.netcom.com> <20010829121035.E25514@windriver.com> <20010830131433.D6D9B13140@netcom1.netcom.com> <20010830111227.I24679@windriver.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-md5; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="X1/p3+Wexo1BqaY8" Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <20010830111227.I24679@windriver.com>; from murray.stokely@windriver.com on Thu, Aug 30, 2001 at 11:12:27AM -0700 Organization: FreeBSD Project Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org --X1/p3+Wexo1BqaY8 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Thu, Aug 30, 2001 at 11:12:27AM -0700, Murray Stokely wrote: > On Thu, Aug 30, 2001 at 06:14:33AM -0700, Mike Harding wrote: > > Maybe so, but I have the latest JadeTeX port and the copy on > > www.freebsd.org has the same problem. Or do you mean that the port > > has to be updated? >=20 > You must also rewrite the first-chapter function in Norm's > stylesheets. Again, see the DocBook-apps list (in particular, Ian > Castle's postings of 1-2 months ago) Have you got a fix for this can go in the doc/ repo? N --=20 FreeBSD: The Power to Serve http://www.freebsd.org/ FreeBSD Documentation Project http://www.freebsd.org/docproj/ --- 15B8 3FFC DDB4 34B0 AA5F 94B7 93A8 0764 2C37 E375 --- --X1/p3+Wexo1BqaY8 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (FreeBSD) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iEYEARECAAYFAjuOim8ACgkQk6gHZCw343UONwCfS3VLubNZK552Z2xxBOp2De7v 3D4Anid0xjYejd8/J16YSrLAEcA2kusg =Amu1 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --X1/p3+Wexo1BqaY8-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Thu Aug 30 12:12:11 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mao.stokely.org (mao.stokely.org [65.84.64.228]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D016137B401; Thu, 30 Aug 2001 12:12:08 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from murray@stokely.org) Received: by mao.stokely.org (Postfix, from userid 2074) id 3B9A64B65D; Thu, 30 Aug 2001 12:15:42 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 30 Aug 2001 12:15:42 -0700 From: Murray Stokely To: Nik Clayton Cc: Murray Stokely , Mike Harding , freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: handbook pdf page number messed up Message-ID: <20010830121542.D27490@windriver.com> References: <20010829141401.1A08613121@netcom1.netcom.com> <20010829121035.E25514@windriver.com> <20010830131433.D6D9B13140@netcom1.netcom.com> <20010830111227.I24679@windriver.com> <20010830194816.F46201@clan.nothing-going-on.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <20010830194816.F46201@clan.nothing-going-on.org>; from nik@freebsd.org on Thu, Aug 30, 2001 at 07:48:16PM +0100 X-GPG-Key-ID: 1024D/0E451F7D X-GPG-Key-Fingerprint: E2CA 411D DD44 53FD BB4B 3CB5 B4D7 10A2 0E45 1F7D Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Thu, Aug 30, 2001 at 07:48:16PM +0100, Nik Clayton wrote: > On Thu, Aug 30, 2001 at 11:12:27AM -0700, Murray Stokely wrote: > > On Thu, Aug 30, 2001 at 06:14:33AM -0700, Mike Harding wrote: > > > Maybe so, but I have the latest JadeTeX port and the copy on > > > www.freebsd.org has the same problem. Or do you mean that the port > > > has to be updated? > > > > You must also rewrite the first-chapter function in Norm's > > stylesheets. Again, see the DocBook-apps list (in particular, Ian > > Castle's postings of 1-2 months ago) > > Have you got a fix for this can go in the doc/ repo? Sure, I've got many little patches to fix annoyances in Norm's stylesheets. I've added some already (NICE_HEADERS, MIN_SECT_LABELS, etc..). Do you have a preference on a namespace for these sorts of options or should I just keep importing them ad-hoc? - Murray To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Thu Aug 30 13:58: 0 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8C92937B40E for ; Thu, 30 Aug 2001 13:57:53 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.11.4/8.11.4) id f7UKo5T48597; Thu, 30 Aug 2001 13:50:05 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1127637B401 for ; Thu, 30 Aug 2001 13:41:05 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nobody@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from nobody@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.11.4/8.11.4) id f7UKchk47690; Thu, 30 Aug 2001 13:38:43 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nobody) Message-Id: <200108302038.f7UKchk47690@freefall.freebsd.org> Date: Thu, 30 Aug 2001 13:38:43 -0700 (PDT) From: Joseph Mallett To: freebsd-gnats-submit@freebsd.org X-Send-Pr-Version: www-1.0 Subject: docs/30227: developers' handbook section on character devices has seemingly misformatted output Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org >Number: 30227 >Category: docs >Synopsis: developers' handbook section on character devices has seemingly misformatted output >Confidential: no >Severity: non-critical >Priority: low >Responsible: freebsd-doc >State: open >Quarter: >Keywords: >Date-Required: >Class: doc-bug >Submitter-Id: current-users >Arrival-Date: Thu Aug 30 13:50:02 PDT 2001 >Closed-Date: >Last-Modified: >Originator: Joseph Mallett >Release: na >Organization: >Environment: www version of developers' handbook on freefall viewed with IE5 for Mac >Description: On http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/developers-handbook/x4393.html after the device code, the examples for someone to type (with the prompt, etc.,) are all out of alignmnet with eachother, possibly due to hardcoded spacing? >How-To-Repeat: view http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/developers-handbook/x4393.html below the example code, near the mknod example, and example of using the device >Fix: na >Release-Note: >Audit-Trail: >Unformatted: To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Thu Aug 30 14:53:49 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (pc-62-31-42-140-hy.blueyonder.co.uk [62.31.42.140]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 336AE37B401; Thu, 30 Aug 2001 14:53:45 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nik@nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk) Received: (from nik@localhost) by nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (8.11.3/8.11.3) id f7ULhgg68005; Thu, 30 Aug 2001 22:43:42 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from nik) Date: Thu, 30 Aug 2001 22:43:42 +0100 From: Nik Clayton To: Murray Stokely Cc: Nik Clayton , Murray Stokely , Mike Harding , freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: handbook pdf page number messed up Message-ID: <20010830224342.G46201@clan.nothing-going-on.org> References: <20010829141401.1A08613121@netcom1.netcom.com> <20010829121035.E25514@windriver.com> <20010830131433.D6D9B13140@netcom1.netcom.com> <20010830111227.I24679@windriver.com> <20010830194816.F46201@clan.nothing-going-on.org> <20010830121542.D27490@windriver.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-md5; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="JXNXDFPDBKDTvPOK" Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <20010830121542.D27490@windriver.com>; from murray@FreeBSD.org on Thu, Aug 30, 2001 at 12:15:42PM -0700 Organization: FreeBSD Project Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org --JXNXDFPDBKDTvPOK Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Thu, Aug 30, 2001 at 12:15:42PM -0700, Murray Stokely wrote: > On Thu, Aug 30, 2001 at 07:48:16PM +0100, Nik Clayton wrote: > > On Thu, Aug 30, 2001 at 11:12:27AM -0700, Murray Stokely wrote: > > > On Thu, Aug 30, 2001 at 06:14:33AM -0700, Mike Harding wrote: > > > > Maybe so, but I have the latest JadeTeX port and the copy on > > > > www.freebsd.org has the same problem. Or do you mean that the port > > > > has to be updated? > > >=20 > > > You must also rewrite the first-chapter function in Norm's > > > stylesheets. Again, see the DocBook-apps list (in particular, Ian > > > Castle's postings of 1-2 months ago) > >=20 > > Have you got a fix for this can go in the doc/ repo? >=20 > Sure, I've got many little patches to fix annoyances in Norm's > stylesheets. I've added some already (NICE_HEADERS, MIN_SECT_LABELS, > etc..). Do you have a preference on a namespace for these sorts of > options or should I just keep importing them ad-hoc? Stuff that fixes the build for everyone should go in straight away. Stuff that's WRS specific I think we look at on a case by case basis -- which is pretty much what we've been doing anyway. N --=20 FreeBSD: The Power to Serve http://www.freebsd.org/ FreeBSD Documentation Project http://www.freebsd.org/docproj/ --- 15B8 3FFC DDB4 34B0 AA5F 94B7 93A8 0764 2C37 E375 --- --JXNXDFPDBKDTvPOK Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (FreeBSD) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iEYEARECAAYFAjuOs40ACgkQk6gHZCw343VMSACeM5jvBagYbeeG8mtwUyMBtx4d XEIAn1kULYVwAZyJr7tgawJlpUV1VEae =vp56 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --JXNXDFPDBKDTvPOK-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Thu Aug 30 15:33: 2 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A6A3937B403 for ; Thu, 30 Aug 2001 15:32:54 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.11.4/8.11.4) id f7UMU1Z66616; Thu, 30 Aug 2001 15:30:01 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats) Date: Thu, 30 Aug 2001 15:30:01 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <200108302230.f7UMU1Z66616@freefall.freebsd.org> To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Cc: From: Michael Lucas Subject: Re: docs/30203: description of security profiles in FAQ is just plain wrong Reply-To: Michael Lucas Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org The following reply was made to PR docs/30203; it has been noted by GNATS. From: Michael Lucas To: Dima Dorfman Cc: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@freebsd.org Subject: Re: docs/30203: description of security profiles in FAQ is just plain wrong Date: Thu, 30 Aug 2001 18:22:46 -0400 --lrZ03NoBR/3+SXJZ Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline On Thu, Aug 30, 2001 at 03:00:25AM -0700, Dima Dorfman wrote: > Why did all these lines get replaced? Because my fingers are trained to automatically type esc-Q. :) Is this more like it? -- Michael Lucas mwlucas@blackhelicopters.org http://www.blackhelicopters.org/~mwlucas/ Big Scary Daemons: http://www.oreillynet.com/pub/q/Big_Scary_Daemons --lrZ03NoBR/3+SXJZ Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="secprof.2" --- book.sgml-dist Thu Aug 30 11:10:07 2001 +++ book.sgml-secprof Thu Aug 30 11:10:03 2001 @@ -2178,52 +2178,38 @@ A security profile is a set of configuration options that attempts to achieve the desired ratio of security to convenience by enabling and disabling certain programs and - other settings. The more severe the security profile, the less - programs will be enabled by default; this is one of the basic - principles of security: do not run anything except what you - must. + other settings. The more severe the security profile, the fewer + programs will be enabled by + default. This is one of the basic principles of security: + do not run anything except what you must. Please note that the security profile is just a default setting. All programs can be enabled and disabled after you have installed FreeBSD by editing or adding the appropriate line(s) - to /etc/rc.conf. For more information on - the latter, please see the &man.rc.conf.5; manual page. + to /etc/rc.conf. For more information, + please see the &man.rc.conf.5; manual page. - Following is a table that describes what each security - profile does. The columns are the choices you have for a - security profile, and the rows are the program or feature that - is enabled or disabled. + The following table describes what each of the + security profiles does. The columns are the choices you + have for a security profile, and the rows are the program + or feature that the profile enables or disables. Possible security profiles - + Extreme - High - Moderate - Low - - &man.inetd.8; - - NO - - NO - - YES - - YES - &man.sendmail.8; @@ -2232,9 +2218,6 @@ YES - YES - - YES @@ -2244,9 +2227,6 @@ YES - YES - - YES @@ -2254,8 +2234,6 @@ NO - NO - MAYBE The portmapper is enabled if the machine has been configured as an NFS client or server earlier in the @@ -2263,7 +2241,6 @@ - YES @@ -2271,11 +2248,8 @@ NO - NO - YES - YES @@ -2291,19 +2265,16 @@ - YES (1) - NO - NO
- The security profile is not a silver bullet! Setting - it high does not mean you do not have to keep up with security + The security profile is not a silver bullet! Even if you use the + extreme setting, you need to keep up with security issues by reading an appropriate mailing list, using good passwords and passphrases, and @@ -2311,6 +2282,7 @@ sets up the desired security to convenience ratio out of the box. + The security profile mechanism is meant to be used --lrZ03NoBR/3+SXJZ-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Thu Aug 30 15:42:23 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 538DC37B406 for ; Thu, 30 Aug 2001 15:42:21 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.11.4/8.11.4) id f7UMe1p67799; Thu, 30 Aug 2001 15:40:01 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats) Date: Thu, 30 Aug 2001 15:40:01 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <200108302240.f7UMe1p67799@freefall.freebsd.org> To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Cc: From: Michael Lucas Subject: Re: docs/29511: Handbook missing some "Loader Built-In Commands". Reply-To: Michael Lucas Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org The following reply was made to PR docs/29511; it has been noted by GNATS. From: Michael Lucas To: freebsd-gnats-submit@freebsd.org, swear@aa.net Cc: Subject: Re: docs/29511: Handbook missing some "Loader Built-In Commands". Date: Thu, 30 Aug 2001 18:31:21 -0400 Well, this is my first attempt to follow-up someone else's PR: let's see if I can successfully choke gnats. :) Might I suggest the following patch? It addresses this in the simplest possible manner. I don't know if the Project wants to have the Handbook include whole excerpts of man pages when a pointer will probably suffice. --- chapter.sgml-dist Thu Aug 30 11:38:51 2001 +++ chapter.sgml-loadercomms Thu Aug 30 11:58:58 2001 @@ -268,7 +268,9 @@ Loader Built-In Commands - The easy-to-use command set comprises of: + These are the most commonly used loader commands. For a + full discussion of all commands available, see + &man.loader.8; -- Michael Lucas mwlucas@blackhelicopters.org http://www.blackhelicopters.org/~mwlucas/ Big Scary Daemons: http://www.oreillynet.com/pub/q/Big_Scary_Daemons To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Thu Aug 30 16:36:48 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from blackhelicopters.org (geburah.blackhelicopters.org [209.69.178.18]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D48F537B401; Thu, 30 Aug 2001 16:36:44 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mwlucas@blackhelicopters.org) Received: (from mwlucas@localhost) by blackhelicopters.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id TAA09237; Thu, 30 Aug 2001 19:24:34 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from mwlucas) Date: Thu, 30 Aug 2001 19:24:34 -0400 From: Michael Lucas To: dd@FreeBSD.ORG Cc: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: docs/30202: pointer to pointer to information Message-ID: <20010830192434.A9124@blackhelicopters.org> References: <200108300737.f7U7bZ275711@freefall.freebsd.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2i In-Reply-To: <200108300737.f7U7bZ275711@freefall.freebsd.org>; from dd@FreeBSD.ORG on Thu, Aug 30, 2001 at 12:37:35AM -0700 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org My concern was that I wanted it to remain good for "whatever version we're on". Perhaps an entity for "current release release notes" would be nice. (Or perhaps I'm just ignorant of the one that exists.) On Thu, Aug 30, 2001 at 12:37:35AM -0700, dd@FreeBSD.ORG wrote: > Synopsis: pointer to pointer to information > > Responsible-Changed-From-To: freebsd-doc->dd > Responsible-Changed-By: dd > Responsible-Changed-When: Thu Aug 30 00:37:03 PDT 2001 > Responsible-Changed-Why: > This is a good change in theory, but I don't like the new URL. The real > release notes should be on the web site soon, and when that happens I'll > fix the URL and commit this. > > http://www.FreeBSD.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=30202 > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message -- Michael Lucas mwlucas@blackhelicopters.org http://www.blackhelicopters.org/~mwlucas/ Big Scary Daemons: http://www.oreillynet.com/pub/q/Big_Scary_Daemons To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Thu Aug 30 21: 5:12 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from parodius.com (pentarou.parodius.com [205.149.163.62]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6446A37B401 for ; Thu, 30 Aug 2001 21:05:09 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jdc@parodius.com) Received: (from jdc@localhost) by parodius.com (8.11.6/8.11.5) id f7V41mI53345 for doc@FreeBSD.org; Thu, 30 Aug 2001 21:01:48 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jdc) Date: Thu, 30 Aug 2001 21:01:48 -0700 From: Jeremy Chadwick To: doc@FreeBSD.org Subject: Error in handbook, section 12.9 Message-ID: <20010830210148.A53286@parodius.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.19i X-Organization: Parodius Networking Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Section 12.9.2 of the FreeBSD Handbook states the following: ... I need to add a new "e" partition for ccd(4) to use. This can be a copy of the "c" partition. Once I was done, my disklabel should look like this: 8 partitions: # size offset fstype [fsize bsize bps/cpg] c: 60074784 0 unused 0 0 0 # (Cyl. 0 - 59597) e: 60074784 0 unused 0 0 0 # (Cyl. 0 - 59597) ... This is incorrect. The filesystem type for 'e' is not 4.2BSD; the ccdconfig(8) applied later will fail. It should state: c: 60074784 0 unused 0 0 0 # (Cyl. 0 - 59597) e: 60074784 0 4.2BSD 0 0 0 # (Cyl. 0 - 59597) Section 12.9.3 states the following: ... The final arguments to ccdconfig are the devices to place into the array. Putting it all together I get this command: ccdconfig ccd0 32 0 /dev/ad1c /dev/ad2c /dev/ad3c ... This is also incorrect. The label entries used should not be type 'c', but rather type 'e' (hence the instructions in 12.9.2!). This should therefore be: ccdconfig ccd0 32 0 /dev/ad1e /dev/ad2e /dev/ad3e Thanks. -- | Jeremy Chadwick jdc@parodius.com | | Parodius Networking http://www.parodius.com/ | | UNIX Systems Administrator Mountain View, CA, USA | To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Fri Aug 31 4:50:34 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mailgw3a.lmco.com (mailgw3a.lmco.com [192.35.35.24]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5FC2D37B401 for ; Fri, 31 Aug 2001 04:50:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: from emss04g01.ems.lmco.com ([166.17.13.122]) by mailgw3a.lmco.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id HAA18160 for ; Fri, 31 Aug 2001 07:50:31 -0400 (EDT) Received: from CONVERSION-DAEMON by lmco.com (PMDF V5.2-32 #38890) id <0GIX00401KW6CI@lmco.com> for freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG; Fri, 31 Aug 2001 07:50:30 -0400 (EDT) Received: from sde5.mds.lmco.com ([166.17.136.105]) by lmco.com (PMDF V5.2-32 #38890) with ESMTP id <0GIX009L9KW1PS@lmco.com> for freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG; Fri, 31 Aug 2001 07:50:25 -0400 (EDT) Received: from lmco.com (VFMW-GRB2VV.mds.lmco.com [166.17.165.63]) by sde5.mds.lmco.com (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id HAA26777 for ; Fri, 31 Aug 2001 07:50:56 -0400 (EDT) Date: Fri, 31 Aug 2001 07:56:13 -0400 From: Jed Clear Subject: Releases Page needs update To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Message-id: <3B8F7B5D.F1DA6CF8@lmco.com> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.76 [en] (WinNT; U) Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Accept-Language: en Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Please update http://www.freebsd.org/releases/index.html with the 5.0 release date slip Jordan announced yesterday. Also if 4.4 isn't "shipping" today, then that date needs fixing too. I guess the newsflash page needs the 5.0 announcement too. Thanks, -Jed To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Fri Aug 31 6: 0:12 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E71D637B40B for ; Fri, 31 Aug 2001 06:00:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.11.4/8.11.4) id f7VD01I76574; Fri, 31 Aug 2001 06:00:01 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2C95437B403 for ; Fri, 31 Aug 2001 05:57:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from nobody@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.11.4/8.11.4) id f7VCvx776057; Fri, 31 Aug 2001 05:57:59 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nobody) Message-Id: <200108311257.f7VCvx776057@freefall.freebsd.org> Date: Fri, 31 Aug 2001 05:57:59 -0700 (PDT) From: Joseph Mallett To: freebsd-gnats-submit@freebsd.org X-Send-Pr-Version: www-1.0 Subject: docs/30234: socketvar.h comment references obsolete structure members Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org >Number: 30234 >Category: docs >Synopsis: socketvar.h comment references obsolete structure members >Confidential: no >Severity: non-critical >Priority: low >Responsible: freebsd-doc >State: open >Quarter: >Keywords: >Date-Required: >Class: sw-bug >Submitter-Id: current-users >Arrival-Date: Fri Aug 31 06:00:01 PDT 2001 >Closed-Date: >Last-Modified: >Originator: Joseph Mallett >Release: 4.3 >Organization: >Environment: FreeBSD Dalek.xMach.ORG 4.3-STABLE FreeBSD 4.3-STABLE #0: Mon Jun 18 07:07:16 EDT 2001 jmallett@Dalek.xMach.ORG:/usr/home/jmallett/vmunix.build i386 >Description: /sys/sys/socketvar.h has the folllowing comment: * For head socket so_q0 queues partially completed connections, * while so_q is a queue of connections ready to be accepted. * If a connection is aborted and it has so_head set, then * it has to be pulled out of either so_q0 or so_q. * We allow connections to queue up based on current queue lengths * and limit on number of queued connections for this socket. but q0 and q have been replaced by so_incomp and so_comp. >How-To-Repeat: vi /sys/sys/socketvar.h read the comment and then look for the structure members it references >Fix: just replace the old names with the new names, and possibly mention something about the use of TAILQ >Release-Note: >Audit-Trail: >Unformatted: To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Fri Aug 31 6:40:21 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 25B2437B401 for ; Fri, 31 Aug 2001 06:40:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.11.4/8.11.4) id f7VDe3d40562; Fri, 31 Aug 2001 06:40:03 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats) Date: Fri, 31 Aug 2001 06:40:03 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <200108311340.f7VDe3d40562@freefall.freebsd.org> To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Cc: From: Joseph Mallett Subject: Re: docs/30234: socketvar.h comment references obsolete structure members Reply-To: Joseph Mallett Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org The following reply was made to PR docs/30234; it has been noted by GNATS. From: Joseph Mallett To: Joseph Mallett Cc: freebsd-gnats-submit@freebsd.org Subject: Re: docs/30234: socketvar.h comment references obsolete structure members Date: Fri, 31 Aug 2001 13:36:39 +0000 Sorry, this has been fixed in current, I checked on RELENG_4... Please close this, but please MFC the comment change as well, it's been two months. On Fri, Aug 31, 2001 at 05:57:59AM -0700, Joseph Mallett wrote: > > >Number: 30234 > >Category: docs > >Synopsis: socketvar.h comment references obsolete structure members > >Confidential: no > >Severity: non-critical > >Priority: low > >Responsible: freebsd-doc > >State: open > >Quarter: > >Keywords: > >Date-Required: > >Class: sw-bug > >Submitter-Id: current-users > >Arrival-Date: Fri Aug 31 06:00:01 PDT 2001 > >Closed-Date: > >Last-Modified: > >Originator: Joseph Mallett > >Release: 4.3 > >Organization: > >Environment: > FreeBSD Dalek.xMach.ORG 4.3-STABLE FreeBSD 4.3-STABLE #0: Mon Jun 18 07:07:16 EDT 2001 jmallett@Dalek.xMach.ORG:/usr/home/jmallett/vmunix.build i386 > >Description: > /sys/sys/socketvar.h has the folllowing comment: > > * For head socket so_q0 queues partially completed connections, > * while so_q is a queue of connections ready to be accepted. > * If a connection is aborted and it has so_head set, then > * it has to be pulled out of either so_q0 or so_q. > * We allow connections to queue up based on current queue lengths > * and limit on number of queued connections for this socket. > > but q0 and q have been replaced by so_incomp and so_comp. > >How-To-Repeat: > vi /sys/sys/socketvar.h > read the comment > and then look for the structure members it references > >Fix: > just replace the old names with the new names, and possibly mention something about the use of TAILQ > >Release-Note: > >Audit-Trail: > >Unformatted: > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message -- -- Joseph A. Mallett http://srcsys.org xMach Core Team, www.xMach.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Fri Aug 31 7:13:10 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mao.stokely.org (mao.stokely.org [65.84.64.228]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9F9C837B401 for ; Fri, 31 Aug 2001 07:12:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: by mao.stokely.org (Postfix, from userid 2074) id F2D604B65D; Fri, 31 Aug 2001 07:18:33 -0700 (PDT) Date: Fri, 31 Aug 2001 07:18:33 -0700 From: Murray Stokely To: Jed Clear Cc: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Releases Page needs update Message-ID: <20010831071833.N24679@windriver.com> References: <3B8F7B5D.F1DA6CF8@lmco.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <3B8F7B5D.F1DA6CF8@lmco.com>; from Jed.Clear@lmco.com on Fri, Aug 31, 2001 at 07:56:13AM -0400 X-GPG-Key-ID: 1024D/0E451F7D X-GPG-Key-Fingerprint: E2CA 411D DD44 53FD BB4B 3CB5 B4D7 10A2 0E45 1F7D Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Fri, Aug 31, 2001 at 07:56:13AM -0400, Jed Clear wrote: > Please update http://www.freebsd.org/releases/index.html with the 5.0 > release date slip Jordan announced yesterday. Also if 4.4 isn't > "shipping" today, then that date needs fixing too. I've made the update, thanks! > I guess the newsflash page needs the 5.0 announcement too. I'll ping Jordan about writing this up. - Murray To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Fri Aug 31 7:50: 9 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0A57C37B405 for ; Fri, 31 Aug 2001 07:50:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.11.4/8.11.4) id f7VEo1P58183; Fri, 31 Aug 2001 07:50:01 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 590FB37B406 for ; Fri, 31 Aug 2001 07:40:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from nobody@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.11.4/8.11.4) id f7VEemn49348; Fri, 31 Aug 2001 07:40:48 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nobody) Message-Id: <200108311440.f7VEemn49348@freefall.freebsd.org> Date: Fri, 31 Aug 2001 07:40:48 -0700 (PDT) From: "E. Jordan Bojar" To: freebsd-gnats-submit@freebsd.org X-Send-Pr-Version: www-1.0 Subject: docs/30237: find manpage lists several primaries out of alphabetical order Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org >Number: 30237 >Category: docs >Synopsis: find manpage lists several primaries out of alphabetical order >Confidential: no >Severity: non-critical >Priority: low >Responsible: freebsd-doc >State: open >Quarter: >Keywords: >Date-Required: >Class: doc-bug >Submitter-Id: current-users >Arrival-Date: Fri Aug 31 07:50:00 PDT 2001 >Closed-Date: >Last-Modified: >Originator: E. Jordan Bojar >Release: 4.3 >Organization: >Environment: >Description: The following primaries are listed out of alphabetical order in the find(1) manpage: -ok, -regex and -iregex, -flags. >How-To-Repeat: >Fix: >Release-Note: >Audit-Trail: >Unformatted: To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Fri Aug 31 8:47:56 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from imo-m08.mx.aol.com (imo-m08.mx.aol.com [64.12.136.163]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9C0BA37B403 for ; Fri, 31 Aug 2001 08:47:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: from Jwhtencate@aol.com by imo-m08.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v31_r1.4.) id n.bc.1994e7a3 (18562) for ; Fri, 31 Aug 2001 11:47:41 -0400 (EDT) From: Jwhtencate@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Fri, 31 Aug 2001 11:47:41 EDT Subject: uninstall ? To: doc@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_bc.1994e7a3.28c10b9d_boundary" X-Mailer: AOL 6.0 for Windows US sub 10536 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org --part1_bc.1994e7a3.28c10b9d_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi, I cannot find in the documents how to get rid of FreeBSD. Not that I want to, for my real problem is: Most of my commands do not work anymore. During the booting I see=20 chflags: not found chown not found cd: can't cd to /var/run cd can't cd to =A0/var/spool/lock /etc/rc: cannot create /var/run/desmg.boot:directory nonexistent Enter full pathname of shell or RETURN for /bin/sh: Anyway, it used to be all fine. Do I have to reinstall FreeBSD? =A0How do I do that? The same install process from CD says FREEBSD is already installed. Can I un-install FreeBSD ?? Please, help me out. Can't find anything in the documentation. Thanks, JanTencate Virginia USA --part1_bc.1994e7a3.28c10b9d_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi,

I cannot find in the documents how to get rid of FreeBSD.
Not that I want to, for my real problem is:

Most of my commands do not work anymore.
During the booting I see=20
chflags: not found
chown not found
cd: can't cd to /var/run
cd can't cd to =A0/var/spool/lock
/etc/rc: cannot create /var/run/desmg.boot:directory nonexistent
Enter full pathname of shell or RETURN for /bin/sh:

Anyway, it used to be all fine.
Do I have to reinstall FreeBSD? =A0How do I do that?
The same install process from CD says FREEBSD is already installed.
Can I un-install FreeBSD ??

Please, help me out.
Can't find anything in the documentation.

Thanks,

JanTencate
Virginia
USA --part1_bc.1994e7a3.28c10b9d_boundary-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Fri Aug 31 8:59:37 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from bazooka.unixfreak.org (bazooka.unixfreak.org [63.198.170.138]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6C01237B406; Fri, 31 Aug 2001 08:59:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: by bazooka.unixfreak.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 24BD23E28; Fri, 31 Aug 2001 08:59:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: from bazooka.unixfreak.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by bazooka.unixfreak.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 177DA3C12D; Fri, 31 Aug 2001 08:59:33 -0700 (PDT) To: Michael Lucas Cc: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG, bmah@freebsd.org Subject: Re: docs/30202: pointer to pointer to information In-Reply-To: <20010830192434.A9124@blackhelicopters.org>; from mwlucas@blackhelicopters.org on "Thu, 30 Aug 2001 19:24:34 -0400" Date: Fri, 31 Aug 2001 08:59:28 -0700 From: Dima Dorfman Message-Id: <20010831155933.24BD23E28@bazooka.unixfreak.org> Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Michael Lucas wrote: > My concern was that I wanted it to remain good for "whatever version > we're on". > > Perhaps an entity for "current release release notes" would be nice. > (Or perhaps I'm just ignorant of the one that exists.) The release notes are now kept as SGML files, and the rendered versions will soon be available on the web site. This resolves this problem quite nicely, since we can just point people at the latest -stable release notes (those running -current should be smart enough to figure out how to get to the right place by themselves). However, it introduces the problem of what architecture the link should be made to. Bruce, any ideas? > > > On Thu, Aug 30, 2001 at 12:37:35AM -0700, dd@FreeBSD.ORG wrote: > > Synopsis: pointer to pointer to information > > > > Responsible-Changed-From-To: freebsd-doc->dd > > Responsible-Changed-By: dd > > Responsible-Changed-When: Thu Aug 30 00:37:03 PDT 2001 > > Responsible-Changed-Why: > > This is a good change in theory, but I don't like the new URL. The real > > release notes should be on the web site soon, and when that happens I'll > > fix the URL and commit this. > > > > http://www.FreeBSD.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=30202 > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > > with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message > > -- > Michael Lucas > mwlucas@blackhelicopters.org > http://www.blackhelicopters.org/~mwlucas/ > Big Scary Daemons: http://www.oreillynet.com/pub/q/Big_Scary_Daemons > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Fri Aug 31 9: 0:39 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mail.newgold.net (aphex.newgold.net [209.42.222.44]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 6EAEF37B405 for ; Fri, 31 Aug 2001 09:00:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 19497 invoked by uid 1000); 31 Aug 2001 16:00:20 -0000 Date: Fri, 31 Aug 2001 16:00:20 +0000 From: Joseph Mallett To: Jwhtencate@aol.com Cc: doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: uninstall ? Message-ID: <20010831160020.A18967@NewGold.NET> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.21i Organisation: New Gold Technology Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org sounds like you don't have a /var, but this is the wrong list, try -questions instead. On Fri, Aug 31, 2001 at 11:47:41AM -0400, Jwhtencate@aol.com wrote: > Hi, > > I cannot find in the documents how to get rid of FreeBSD. > Not that I want to, for my real problem is: > > Most of my commands do not work anymore. > During the booting I see > chflags: not found > chown not found > cd: can't cd to /var/run > cd can't cd to  /var/spool/lock > /etc/rc: cannot create /var/run/desmg.boot:directory nonexistent > Enter full pathname of shell or RETURN for /bin/sh: > > Anyway, it used to be all fine. > Do I have to reinstall FreeBSD?  How do I do that? > The same install process from CD says FREEBSD is already installed. > Can I un-install FreeBSD ?? > > Please, help me out. > Can't find anything in the documentation. > > Thanks, > > JanTencate > Virginia > USA -- -- Joseph A. Mallett http://srcsys.org xMach Core Team, www.xMach.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Fri Aug 31 9: 1:42 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8D1E837B405; Fri, 31 Aug 2001 09:01:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from ru@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.11.4/8.11.4) id f7VG1Y697560; Fri, 31 Aug 2001 09:01:34 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ru) Date: Fri, 31 Aug 2001 09:01:34 -0700 (PDT) From: Message-Id: <200108311601.f7VG1Y697560@freefall.freebsd.org> To: bojar@intersys.com, ru@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-doc@freebsd.org, ru@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: docs/30237: find manpage lists several primaries out of alphabetical order Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Synopsis: find manpage lists several primaries out of alphabetical order State-Changed-From-To: open->closed State-Changed-By: ru State-Changed-When: Fri Aug 31 09:01:10 PDT 2001 State-Changed-Why: Fixed, thanks! Responsible-Changed-From-To: freebsd-doc->ru Responsible-Changed-By: ru Responsible-Changed-When: Fri Aug 31 09:01:10 PDT 2001 Responsible-Changed-Why: http://www.FreeBSD.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=30237 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Fri Aug 31 9:10: 8 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from nef.ens.fr (nef.ens.fr [129.199.96.32]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4D80037B406 for ; Fri, 31 Aug 2001 09:10:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: from corto.lpt.ens.fr (corto.lpt.ens.fr [129.199.122.2]) by nef.ens.fr (8.10.1/1.01.28121999) with ESMTP id f7VGA2m92510 ; Fri, 31 Aug 2001 18:10:02 +0200 (CEST) Received: from (rsidd@localhost) by corto.lpt.ens.fr (8.9.3/jtpda-5.3.1) id SAA12565 ; Fri, 31 Aug 2001 18:10:02 +0200 (CEST) Date: Fri, 31 Aug 2001 18:10:02 +0200 From: Rahul Siddharthan To: Jwhtencate@aol.com Cc: doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: uninstall ? Message-ID: <20010831181002.M95956@lpt.ens.fr> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: ; from Jwhtencate@aol.com on Fri, Aug 31, 2001 at 11:47:41AM -0400 X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 3.4-STABLE i386 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org First - this is probably the wrong list: try mailing freebsd-questions@freebsd.org in future. > During the booting I see > chflags: not found > chown not found > cd: can't cd to /var/run > cd can't cd to  /var/spool/lock > /etc/rc: cannot create /var/run/desmg.boot:directory nonexistent > Enter full pathname of shell or RETURN for /bin/sh: Your system is probably mostly fine, but it is not going multiuser: therefore it is not mounting filesystems other than the root one, and it is mounting that readonly. However, from the error message it looks like it *tried* to go multiuser and failed. Did you mess up your /etc/fstab by any chance? Try just starting /bin/sh (press RETURN when it asks above) or /bin/csh if you prefer, and then try mounting all filesystems manually. Do this: cat /etc/fstab If it does exist, then try mount /filesystem for each filesystem listed there. If it complains about the filesystem being dirty, run fsck on it and then mount it. My guess is, however, that /etc/fstab does not exist for some reason. In that case you'll have to remember what the disk partition names were and what mountpoints they were attached you. The disklabel program may help you here: assuming FreeBSD is installed on the IDE disk 0, slice 1, type disklabel /dev/ad0s1 If you can't even remember that, the command "mount" will tell you the name of the root partition device (eg /dev/ad0s1a) -- just drop the last letter (a) to get the slice. HTH R To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Fri Aug 31 9:26:15 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5516437B406; Fri, 31 Aug 2001 09:26:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from dd@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.11.4/8.11.4) id f7VGP5c05614; Fri, 31 Aug 2001 09:25:05 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dd) Date: Fri, 31 Aug 2001 09:25:05 -0700 (PDT) From: Message-Id: <200108311625.f7VGP5c05614@freefall.freebsd.org> To: mwlucas@blackhelicopters.org, dd@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: docs/30203: description of security profiles in FAQ is just plain wrong Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Synopsis: description of security profiles in FAQ is just plain wrong State-Changed-From-To: open->closed State-Changed-By: dd State-Changed-When: Fri Aug 31 09:24:54 PDT 2001 State-Changed-Why: Patch committed, thanks! http://www.FreeBSD.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=30203 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Fri Aug 31 9:29:38 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from femail47.sdc1.sfba.home.com (femail47.sdc1.sfba.home.com [24.254.60.41]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0F41837B406; Fri, 31 Aug 2001 09:29:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: from intruder.bmah.org ([24.176.204.87]) by femail47.sdc1.sfba.home.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.20 201-229-121-120-20010223) with ESMTP id <20010831162933.XHGG20210.femail47.sdc1.sfba.home.com@intruder.bmah.org>; Fri, 31 Aug 2001 09:29:33 -0700 Received: (from bmah@localhost) by intruder.bmah.org (8.11.5/8.11.3) id f7VGTX370290; Fri, 31 Aug 2001 09:29:33 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from bmah) Message-Id: <200108311629.f7VGTX370290@intruder.bmah.org> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.5 07/13/2001 with nmh-1.0.4 To: Dima Dorfman Cc: Michael Lucas , freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG, bmah@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: docs/30202: pointer to pointer to information In-Reply-To: <20010831155933.24BD23E28@bazooka.unixfreak.org> References: <20010831155933.24BD23E28@bazooka.unixfreak.org> Comments: In-reply-to Dima Dorfman message dated "Fri, 31 Aug 2001 08:59:28 -0700." From: bmah@FreeBSD.ORG (Bruce A. Mah) Reply-To: bmah@FreeBSD.ORG X-Face: g~c`.{#4q0"(V*b#g[i~rXgm*w;:nMfz%_RZLma)UgGN&=j`5vXoU^@n5v4:OO)c["!w)nD/!!~e4Sj7LiT'6*wZ83454H""lb{CC%T37O!!'S$S&D}sem7I[A 2V%N&+ X-Image-Url: http://www.employees.org/~bmah/Images/bmah-cisco-small.gif X-Url: http://www.employees.org/~bmah/ Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="==_Exmh_145952744P"; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Date: Fri, 31 Aug 2001 09:29:32 -0700 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org --==_Exmh_145952744P Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii If memory serves me right, Dima Dorfman wrote: > Michael Lucas wrote: > > My concern was that I wanted it to remain good for "whatever version > > we're on". > > > > Perhaps an entity for "current release release notes" would be nice. > > (Or perhaps I'm just ignorant of the one that exists.) > > The release notes are now kept as SGML files, and the rendered > versions will soon be available on the web site. This resolves this > problem quite nicely, since we can just point people at the latest > -stable release notes (those running -current should be smart enough > to figure out how to get to the right place by themselves). However, > it introduces the problem of what architecture the link should be made > to. Bruce, any ideas? Unfortunately we can't magically determine from within a document what version of FreeBSD the reader is running, or what architecture they're running on. :-) I personally liked the place where Michael pointed to, because we punt this decision off to the reader (I sure hope they can navigate around releases/ to figure out what version and architecture they're running or else they're going to have bigger problems!). But I'd change the text to read something like this (sorry for not doing a diff here): See the complete list in the Hardware Notes for the version of FreeBSD being installed. The Hardware Notes for all released versions of FreeBSD can be found on the FreeBSD Release Information page. FWIW I think any of the three proposals (Michael's, Dima's, or mine) is better than what we're doing right now, which I guess was Michael's original point. Cheers, Bruce. PS. Dima, I'm thinking about how we should put the rendered versions of -RELEASE release notes on the Web site...in theory we could rebuild those the same way you have planned for 4-STABLE and CURRENT, just with different tags, although I was wondering if it might be worth the time/ space tradeoff to dump rendered versions into the www/ CVS repository. But that's a different issue altogether. --==_Exmh_145952744P Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (FreeBSD) Comment: Exmh version 2.3.1+ 05/14/2001 iD8DBQE7j7ts2MoxcVugUsMRAnKMAKCZODXl5y3xm1HOfcxtkCMZyz21UwCfb2KN YaTHJfLPb0c+QREAAvjlFqc= =Ed3R -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --==_Exmh_145952744P-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Fri Aug 31 9:30: 9 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0C68537B407 for ; Fri, 31 Aug 2001 09:30:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.11.4/8.11.4) id f7VGU1V07031; Fri, 31 Aug 2001 09:30:01 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats) Date: Fri, 31 Aug 2001 09:30:01 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <200108311630.f7VGU1V07031@freefall.freebsd.org> To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Cc: From: Dima Dorfman Subject: Re: docs/30203: description of security profiles in FAQ is just plain wrong Reply-To: Dima Dorfman Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org The following reply was made to PR docs/30203; it has been noted by GNATS. From: Dima Dorfman To: Michael Lucas Cc: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@freebsd.org Subject: Re: docs/30203: description of security profiles in FAQ is just plain wrong Date: Fri, 31 Aug 2001 09:24:50 -0700 Michael Lucas wrote: > On Thu, Aug 30, 2001 at 03:00:25AM -0700, Dima Dorfman wrote: > > Why did all these lines get replaced? > > Because my fingers are trained to automatically type esc-Q. :) > > Is this more like it? Yes. I've applied it after fixing a few minor nits: > --- book.sgml-dist Thu Aug 30 11:10:07 2001 > +++ book.sgml-secprof Thu Aug 30 11:10:03 2001 > @@ -2178,52 +2178,38 @@ ... > - Following is a table that describes what each security > - profile does. The columns are the choices you have for a > - security profile, and the rows are the program or feature that > - is enabled or disabled. > + The following table describes what each of the > + security profiles does. The columns are the choices you "...what each of the security profiles does". The verb (does) doesn't agree in number with the subject (profiles). Or something like that--you get the idea. I'm not an English teacher, so I probably got the terms all wrong. I changed 'does' to 'do'. > > > > Extreme > > - High > - > Moderate > > - Low > Excess vertical whitespace. This ends up looking like: Moderate which is wrong. There are some more caes of this below, which I've also fixed before committing. Thanks! To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Fri Aug 31 9:43:36 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from femail27.sdc1.sfba.home.com (femail27.sdc1.sfba.home.com [24.254.60.17]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4C3C537B401 for ; Fri, 31 Aug 2001 09:43:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: from intruder.bmah.org ([24.176.204.87]) by femail27.sdc1.sfba.home.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.20 201-229-121-120-20010223) with ESMTP id <20010831164331.TSRD642.femail27.sdc1.sfba.home.com@intruder.bmah.org>; Fri, 31 Aug 2001 09:43:31 -0700 Received: (from bmah@localhost) by intruder.bmah.org (8.11.5/8.11.3) id f7VGhUq85376; Fri, 31 Aug 2001 09:43:30 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from bmah) Message-Id: <200108311643.f7VGhUq85376@intruder.bmah.org> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.5 07/13/2001 with nmh-1.0.4 To: Dima Dorfman Cc: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: docs/30203: description of security profiles in FAQ is just plain wrong In-Reply-To: <200108311630.f7VGU1V07031@freefall.freebsd.org> References: <200108311630.f7VGU1V07031@freefall.freebsd.org> Comments: In-reply-to Dima Dorfman message dated "Fri, 31 Aug 2001 09:30:01 -0700." From: "Bruce A. Mah" Reply-To: bmah@FreeBSD.ORG X-Face: g~c`.{#4q0"(V*b#g[i~rXgm*w;:nMfz%_RZLma)UgGN&=j`5vXoU^@n5v4:OO)c["!w)nD/!!~e4Sj7LiT'6*wZ83454H""lb{CC%T37O!!'S$S&D}sem7I[A 2V%N&+ X-Image-Url: http://www.employees.org/~bmah/Images/bmah-cisco-small.gif X-Url: http://www.employees.org/~bmah/ Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="==_Exmh_200030180P"; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Date: Fri, 31 Aug 2001 09:43:30 -0700 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org --==_Exmh_200030180P Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii If memory serves me right, Dima Dorfman wrote: > > - is enabled or disabled. > > + The following table describes what each of the > > + security profiles does. The columns are the choices you > > "...what each of the security profiles does". The verb (does) doesn't > agree in number with the subject (profiles). Or something like > that--you get the idea. I'm not an English teacher, so I probably got > the terms all wrong. I changed 'does' to 'do'. Actually, the subject is "each", which is singular. I'm pretty sure Michael is right on this one. The prepositional phrase "of the security profiles" confuses things a bit. A trick that my seventh-grade English teacher Mrs. Cantrell taught me was to take out the prepositional phrase (which is optional in a structural sense anyways) and see if the sentence still seems correct...in this case, "each [...] does" vs. "each [...] do". Bruce. --==_Exmh_200030180P Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (FreeBSD) Comment: Exmh version 2.3.1+ 05/14/2001 iD8DBQE7j76x2MoxcVugUsMRAtnHAJ9bvc5myw7ygN7qpGTT/02PVrxvtACg9vf3 hUMUNNaN5RmbQjedD8dV11Q= =hhxm -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --==_Exmh_200030180P-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Fri Aug 31 9:50:53 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from nef.ens.fr (nef.ens.fr [129.199.96.32]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 07CDD37B407; Fri, 31 Aug 2001 09:50:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: from corto.lpt.ens.fr (corto.lpt.ens.fr [129.199.122.2]) by nef.ens.fr (8.10.1/1.01.28121999) with ESMTP id f7VGomm95819 ; Fri, 31 Aug 2001 18:50:48 +0200 (CEST) Received: from (rsidd@localhost) by corto.lpt.ens.fr (8.9.3/jtpda-5.3.1) id SAA14168 ; Fri, 31 Aug 2001 18:50:48 +0200 (CEST) Date: Fri, 31 Aug 2001 18:50:48 +0200 From: Rahul Siddharthan To: "Bruce A. Mah" Cc: Dima Dorfman , freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: docs/30203: description of security profiles in FAQ is just plain wrong Message-ID: <20010831185048.N95956@lpt.ens.fr> References: <200108311630.f7VGU1V07031@freefall.freebsd.org> <200108311643.f7VGhUq85376@intruder.bmah.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <200108311643.f7VGhUq85376@intruder.bmah.org>; from bmah@FreeBSD.ORG on Fri, Aug 31, 2001 at 09:43:30AM -0700 X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 3.4-STABLE i386 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Bruce A. Mah said on Aug 31, 2001 at 09:43:30: > If memory serves me right, Dima Dorfman wrote: > > > > - is enabled or disabled. > > > + The following table describes what each of the > > > + security profiles does. The columns are the choices you > > > > "...what each of the security profiles does". The verb (does) doesn't > > agree in number with the subject (profiles). Or something like > > that--you get the idea. I'm not an English teacher, so I probably got > > the terms all wrong. I changed 'does' to 'do'. > > Actually, the subject is "each", which is singular. I'm pretty sure > Michael is right on this one. "Does" is definitely correct, not do. (Think "each and every one of the security profiles.") - Rahul To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Fri Aug 31 10: 4:56 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from bazooka.unixfreak.org (bazooka.unixfreak.org [63.198.170.138]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 00A5137B409; Fri, 31 Aug 2001 10:04:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: by bazooka.unixfreak.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 8540E3E28; Fri, 31 Aug 2001 10:04:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: from bazooka.unixfreak.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by bazooka.unixfreak.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6B04B3C12D; Fri, 31 Aug 2001 10:04:47 -0700 (PDT) To: Rahul Siddharthan Cc: "Bruce A. Mah" , freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: docs/30203: description of security profiles in FAQ is just plain wrong In-Reply-To: <20010831185048.N95956@lpt.ens.fr>; from rsidd@physics.iisc.ernet.in on "Fri, 31 Aug 2001 18:50:48 +0200" Date: Fri, 31 Aug 2001 10:04:42 -0700 From: Dima Dorfman Message-Id: <20010831170447.8540E3E28@bazooka.unixfreak.org> Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Rahul Siddharthan wrote: > Bruce A. Mah said on Aug 31, 2001 at 09:43:30: > > If memory serves me right, Dima Dorfman wrote: > > > > > > - is enabled or disabled. > > > > + The following table describes what each of the > > > > + security profiles does. The columns are the choices you > > > > > > "...what each of the security profiles does". The verb (does) doesn't > > > agree in number with the subject (profiles). Or something like > > > that--you get the idea. I'm not an English teacher, so I probably got > > > the terms all wrong. I changed 'does' to 'do'. > > > > Actually, the subject is "each", which is singular. I'm pretty sure > > Michael is right on this one. > > "Does" is definitely correct, not do. (Think "each and every one of the > security profiles.") Okay, fixed. I'm really not an English teacher... :-/ > > - Rahul > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Fri Aug 31 10:38:55 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from winston.freebsd.org (adsl-64-173-15-98.dsl.sntc01.pacbell.net [64.173.15.98]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A9E5837B425 for ; Fri, 31 Aug 2001 10:38:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (jkh@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by winston.freebsd.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id f7VHcXv77376; Fri, 31 Aug 2001 10:38:34 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jkh@freebsd.org) To: murray.stokely@windriver.com Cc: Jed.Clear@lmco.com, freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Releases Page needs update In-Reply-To: <20010831071833.N24679@windriver.com> References: <3B8F7B5D.F1DA6CF8@lmco.com> <20010831071833.N24679@windriver.com> X-Mailer: Mew version 1.94.1 on Emacs 20.7 / Mule 4.0 (HANANOEN) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <20010831103833F.jkh@freebsd.org> Date: Fri, 31 Aug 2001 10:38:33 -0700 From: Jordan Hubbard X-Dispatcher: imput version 20000228(IM140) Lines: 11 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org From: Murray Stokely Subject: Re: Releases Page needs update Date: Fri, 31 Aug 2001 07:18:33 -0700 > > I guess the newsflash page needs the 5.0 announcement too. > > I'll ping Jordan about writing this up. Or somebody could always just commit my announcement. Hint hint. :) - Jordan To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Fri Aug 31 12:37:38 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from blackhelicopters.org (geburah.blackhelicopters.org [209.69.178.18]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3D52B37B401; Fri, 31 Aug 2001 12:37:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from mwlucas@localhost) by blackhelicopters.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id PAA12769; Fri, 31 Aug 2001 15:37:26 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from mwlucas) Date: Fri, 31 Aug 2001 15:37:26 -0400 From: Michael Lucas To: "Bruce A. Mah" Cc: Dima Dorfman , freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: docs/30202: pointer to pointer to information Message-ID: <20010831153726.C12674@blackhelicopters.org> References: <20010831155933.24BD23E28@bazooka.unixfreak.org> <200108311629.f7VGTX370290@intruder.bmah.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2i In-Reply-To: <200108311629.f7VGTX370290@intruder.bmah.org>; from bmah@FreeBSD.ORG on Fri, Aug 31, 2001 at 09:29:32AM -0700 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Fri, Aug 31, 2001 at 09:29:32AM -0700, Bruce A. Mah wrote: > Unfortunately we can't magically determine from within a document what > version of FreeBSD the reader is running, or what architecture they're > running on. :-) Sure we can. Integrate security/nmap into textproc/docproj. You have everything else in there, anyway. ;-) > See the complete list in the Hardware Notes for the version of > FreeBSD being installed. The Hardware Notes for all released versions > of FreeBSD can be found on the FreeBSD Release Information page. I chose the release notes page because the Handbook/FAQ is supposed to cover 2.x-4.x. The above looks good, I'd say commit it. > FWIW I think any of the three proposals (Michael's, Dima's, or mine) is > better than what we're doing right now, which I guess was Michael's > original point. Actually, I just finished the first draft of "Absolute BSD" and sent it off to the reviewers. After being used and abused by editors for five months straight, I wanted to pick on someone else's writing for a change. Unfortunately, Dima's being picky and frustrating that effort, too. Sigh. Yes, that was my original point. Programmer sorts have legit reasons for using pointers to pointers, but in documentation it isn't so sensible. -- Michael Lucas mwlucas@blackhelicopters.org http://www.blackhelicopters.org/~mwlucas/ Big Scary Daemons: http://www.oreillynet.com/pub/q/Big_Scary_Daemons To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Fri Aug 31 12:47:33 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from chunky.amaretti.net (pc-62-30-126-30-cr.blueyonder.co.uk [62.30.126.30]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8042137B407 for ; Fri, 31 Aug 2001 12:47:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: from globalnet.co.uk (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by chunky.amaretti.net (8.11.3/8.11.3) with ESMTP id f7VJmPU00811 for ; Fri, 31 Aug 2001 20:48:25 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from jre@globalnet.co.uk) Message-Id: <200108311948.f7VJmPU00811@chunky.amaretti.net> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.3.1 01/18/2001 with nmh-1.0.4 To: doc@FreeBSD.org Subject: Suggestion for "1.2.6. Tips for Serial Console Users" Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Fri, 31 Aug 2001 20:48:25 +0100 From: John Ekins Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hello, Can I make a suggestion for a slight change to "1.2.6. Tips for Serial Console Users"? At points 4/5 when it says you should wait for another beep and then press the space bar, you only have 15 seconds to do this before the normal install routine starts. I know this as I'd just missed it and wondered what was wrong. Cheers, John. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Fri Aug 31 15:26:44 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from femail29.sdc1.sfba.home.com (femail29.sdc1.sfba.home.com [24.254.60.19]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0147437B403; Fri, 31 Aug 2001 15:26:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: from intruder.bmah.org ([24.176.204.87]) by femail29.sdc1.sfba.home.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.20 201-229-121-120-20010223) with ESMTP id <20010831222632.HHNR15592.femail29.sdc1.sfba.home.com@intruder.bmah.org>; Fri, 31 Aug 2001 15:26:32 -0700 Received: (from bmah@localhost) by intruder.bmah.org (8.11.6/8.11.3) id f7VMQWk00844; Fri, 31 Aug 2001 15:26:32 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from bmah) Message-Id: <200108312226.f7VMQWk00844@intruder.bmah.org> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.5 07/13/2001 with nmh-1.0.4 To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org, freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Cc: bmah@freebsd.org Subject: Documenting pcic changes to -CURRENT and -STABLE From: bmah@freebsd.org (Bruce A. Mah) Reply-To: bmah@freebsd.org X-Face: g~c`.{#4q0"(V*b#g[i~rXgm*w;:nMfz%_RZLma)UgGN&=j`5vXoU^@n5v4:OO)c["!w)nD/!!~e4Sj7LiT'6*wZ83454H""lb{CC%T37O!!'S$S&D}sem7I[A 2V%N&+ X-Image-Url: http://www.employees.org/~bmah/Images/bmah-cisco-small.gif X-Url: http://www.employees.org/~bmah/ Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="==_Exmh_-2035594112P"; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Date: Fri, 31 Aug 2001 15:26:32 -0700 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org --==_Exmh_-2035594112P Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Hi all-- I admit I'm really ignorant about the latest pcic(4) changes for both -CURRENT and 4-STABLE. I'm wondering if someone might be able to help me write up release note entries for this stuff. I asked Warner, but he's clearly busy getting the code to *work*, and we are all probably better off with him putting his time into that part. To kick things off...here was a list of questions I would have needed to write something up. Some of this might be "remedial knowledge" to some...it might not need to go in release notes entries, but I wouldn't be able to write anything without knowing this... > 1. What does "interrupt routing" mean? > > 2. What do "PCI attachment" and "ISA attachment" mean? > > 3. Does this term (and attendant code) apply only to PCMCIA and/or > CardBus devices or are other devices (e.g. PCI/ISA cards, built-in > NICs/disk controllers/other hardware) affected too? > > 4. Does the new code allow me to use new devices (e.g. NICs, disk > adapters) that I couldn't use before? > > 5. Does the new code allow me to use devices on new machines that I > couldn't before? > > 6. Does the new code improve performance, flexibility, or reliability > in any way? > > 7. What configuration file (i.e. KERNCONF, rc.conf, rc.sysctl) > changes do I need to make? (RTFM is an acceptable answer if I can > point readers someplace, for example the pcic.4 manpage.) If anyone can help (either by answering the above, or, preferably, actually writing some release notes-like thing), I'd be most grateful. Thanks! Bruce. --==_Exmh_-2035594112P Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (FreeBSD) Comment: Exmh version 2.3.1+ 05/14/2001 iD8DBQE7kA8Y2MoxcVugUsMRAkpbAKDIAmOmHw/jZNBp43i5L1LsYk0aXACeOdUk 6Cs6whj87WXKF7gbMmXH+cw= =aWX8 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --==_Exmh_-2035594112P-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Fri Aug 31 23:12: 9 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from oitc.tric.tomsk.gov.ru (gw.tric.tomsk.gov.ru [217.106.120.26]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2141637B406 for ; Fri, 31 Aug 2001 23:12:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by oitc.tric.tomsk.gov.ru (8.11.0/8.11.0/SuSE Linux 8.11.0-0.4) id f816C1w32020 for doc@freebsd.org; Sat, 1 Sep 2001 14:12:01 +0800 Received: from draco (m.tric.tomsk.gov.ru [217.106.122.125]) by oitc.tric.tomsk.gov.ru (8.11.0/8.11.0/SuSE Linux 8.11.0-0.4) with SMTP id f816Bth32010 for ; Sat, 1 Sep 2001 14:11:55 +0800 X-Authentication-Warning: oitc.tric.tomsk.gov.ru: Host m.tric.tomsk.gov.ru [217.106.122.125] claimed to be draco Message-ID: <000501c132ad$079152e0$7d7a6ad9@draco> From: "Michael O. Boev" To: Subject: possible typo @ http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/userppp.html Date: Sat, 1 Sep 2001 14:12:05 +0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="koi8-r" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6700 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6700 X-Virus-Scanned: by AMaViS perl-11 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Greetings! in the "17.2.1.5.4.1 mgetty and AutoPPP" section, the contents of the /etc/ppp/ppp-pap-dialup script are given: #!/bin/sh exec /usr/sbin/ppp -direct pap$IDENT But, my guess is, that since ppp(8) accepts names of systems(config file sections) separated by spaces, and, the intent is to setup pap confuguration AND the device specific stuff, there should be a whitespace between pap and $IDENT, as in: #!/bin/sh exec /usr/sbin/ppp -direct pap $IDENT Sincerely, Mike Boev. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sat Sep 1 0:28: 9 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mail.chem.msu.ru (mail.chem.msu.ru [195.208.208.19]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2846037B406; Sat, 1 Sep 2001 00:28:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: from comp.chem.msu.su ([158.250.32.97]) by mail.chem.msu.ru with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2650.21) id Q5PY2NCA; Sat, 1 Sep 2001 11:17:56 +0400 Received: (from yar@localhost) by comp.chem.msu.su (8.11.1/8.11.1) id f817S1x40110; Sat, 1 Sep 2001 11:28:01 +0400 (MSD) (envelope-from yar) Date: Sat, 1 Sep 2001 11:28:01 +0400 From: Yar Tikhiy To: arch@freebsd.org, doc@freebsd.org Subject: brk(2) manpage seems erroneous and confusing Message-ID: <20010901112800.A26502@comp.chem.msu.su> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi there, A friend of mine who is a Unix newbie tried to study various ways of memory allocation, and got confused by the brk(2) page. I read it and became confused either. The current version of the page contains a number doubtful and ambiguous statements. I've found at least six of them: - brk() should return int, not char* - it's a problem of our unistd.h, too - the break isn't the lowest address of the process' data segment - the statement on "data addressing" is likely to be interpreted that one may address memory only between the break and the stack pointer - sbrk() isn't described at all - char* functions are said to return ints - actually, sbrk() returns not new, but prior break value Despites the page is of little use to programmers now, it has certain historical value for those who wish to know how Unix developed. I'd suggest taking the brk(2) page from NetBSD, which language looks much better. If noone minds, I'll do that. Of course, I'll change the function prototypes in the manpage to match our unistd.h unless we decide to fix the latter, too. -- Yar To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sat Sep 1 0:29:20 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mailgate.originative.co.uk (mailgate.originative.co.uk [62.232.68.68]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 526A137B40D; Sat, 1 Sep 2001 00:29:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lobster.originative.co.uk (lobster [62.232.68.81]) by mailgate.originative.co.uk (Postfix) with ESMTP id C5C571D162; Sat, 1 Sep 2001 08:29:13 +0100 (BST) Date: Sat, 01 Sep 2001 08:29:13 +0100 From: Paul Richards To: bmah@FreeBSD.ORG, Dima Dorfman Cc: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: docs/30203: description of security profiles in FAQ is just plain wrong Message-ID: <334960000.999329353@lobster.originative.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <200108311643.f7VGhUq85376@intruder.bmah.org> References: <200108311630.f7VGU1V07031@freefall.freebsd.org> <200108311643.f7VGhUq85376@intruder.bmah.org> X-Mailer: Mulberry/2.1.0b3 (Linux/x86 Demo) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org --On Friday, August 31, 2001 09:43:30 -0700 "Bruce A. Mah" wrote: > If memory serves me right, Dima Dorfman wrote: > >> > - is enabled or disabled. >> > + The following table describes what each of the >> > + security profiles does. The columns are the choices you >> >> "...what each of the security profiles does". The verb (does) doesn't >> agree in number with the subject (profiles). Or something like >> that--you get the idea. I'm not an English teacher, so I probably got >> the terms all wrong. I changed 'does' to 'do'. > > Actually, the subject is "each", which is singular. I'm pretty sure > Michael is right on this one. > > The prepositional phrase "of the security profiles" confuses things a > bit. A trick that my seventh-grade English teacher Mrs. Cantrell taught > me was to take out the prepositional phrase (which is optional in a > structural sense anyways) and see if the sentence still seems > correct...in this case, "each [...] does" vs. "each [...] do". Another trick is to replace the phrase with some other noun, a common one to use is "elephants". "The following table describes what each of the elephants does". Paul Richards FreeBSD Services Ltd http://www.freebsd-services.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sat Sep 1 1:33:12 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from rover.village.org (rover.bsdimp.com [204.144.255.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5435737B403; Sat, 1 Sep 2001 01:33:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: from harmony.village.org (harmony.village.org [10.0.0.6]) by rover.village.org (8.11.3/8.11.3) with ESMTP id f818X1X05137; Sat, 1 Sep 2001 02:33:01 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from imp@harmony.village.org) Received: from harmony.village.org (localhost.village.org [127.0.0.1]) by harmony.village.org (8.11.3/8.11.4) with ESMTP id f818X0h10099; Sat, 1 Sep 2001 02:33:00 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from imp@harmony.village.org) Message-Id: <200109010833.f818X0h10099@harmony.village.org> To: bmah@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Documenting pcic changes to -CURRENT and -STABLE Cc: freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG In-reply-to: Your message of "Fri, 31 Aug 2001 15:26:32 PDT." <200108312226.f7VMQWk00844@intruder.bmah.org> References: <200108312226.f7VMQWk00844@intruder.bmah.org> Date: Sat, 01 Sep 2001 02:33:00 -0600 From: Warner Losh Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org In message <200108312226.f7VMQWk00844@intruder.bmah.org> Bruce A. Mah writes: : I admit I'm really ignorant about the latest pcic(4) changes for both : -CURRENT and 4-STABLE. I'm wondering if someone might be able to help : me write up release note entries for this stuff. I asked Warner, but : he's clearly busy getting the code to *work*, and we are all probably : better off with him putting his time into that part. : : To kick things off...here was a list of questions I would have needed : to write something up. Some of this might be "remedial knowledge" to : some...it might not need to go in release notes entries, but I wouldn't : be able to write anything without knowing this... I'll do my best. Sorry for not replying sooner. : > 1. What does "interrupt routing" mean? There are two busses in the laptop. There's an ISA bus and a PCI bus. Most normal devices live on one bus or the other exclusively. However, the pcic devices are special. Newer ones live on the PCI bus, but also have a back door connection to the ISA bus in some way. Interrupt routing referrs to which set of interrupt signals is used. PCI means use the PCI bus' interrupt signals. ISA means use the ISA bus' interrupt signals (basically). PCI interrupts can be shared. ISA interrupts cannot be shared. PCI interrupts are automatically configured, while ISA interrupts must be configured by the user. Since PCI interrupts are automatically configured, and there are a large number of PCI bridge chipsets, PCI interrupt routing is handled in the BIOS of the machine. The BIOS provides two things that we use. First, it provides us with a wiring table that lets us know how the bus is connected. This is called the PIR table. Second, it provides a functions that says "route IRQ 10 (aka intpin 10) to this interrupt line, which is connected to this slot." : > 2. What do "PCI attachment" and "ISA attachment" mean? PCI attachment means that the device lives on a PCI bus and is treated as such. ISA attachment means that the device lives on the ISA bus. It is a system configuration term. In 4.3 and earleir, we would always do an ISA attachment of pcic devices. We'd put the PCI parts into a compatibility mode and then attach them as ISA devices. Now, we don't put them into compatibility mode and treat them as real PCI devices. : > 3. Does this term (and attendant code) apply only to PCMCIA and/or : > CardBus devices or are other devices (e.g. PCI/ISA cards, built-in : > NICs/disk controllers/other hardware) affected too? Only PCI <-> PCMCIA and PCI <-> CardBus bridges. : > 4. Does the new code allow me to use new devices (e.g. NICs, disk : > adapters) that I couldn't use before? Yes. It allows one to use the various Cardbus bridge PCI cards. The Orinoco cards are the most common, but other cards work too. : > 5. Does the new code allow me to use devices on new machines that I : > couldn't before? Not really, but see 6. : > 6. Does the new code improve performance, flexibility, or reliability : > in any way? When PCI interrupt routing works, it allows machines that failed for polling mode to work without configraution that was needed before. PCI interrupts can also be shared, which makes it possible to use cards on some laptops that didn't have any free IRQs. The code has also been improved wrt eject to help close the inherent races more than before. : > 7. What configuration file (i.e. KERNCONF, rc.conf, rc.sysctl) : > changes do I need to make? (RTFM is an acceptable answer if I can : > point readers someplace, for example the pcic.4 manpage.) If PCI interrupt routing works, there are no configuration changes necessary. Old configurations will continue to work. If you have an ISA only system, no configuration changes are necessary. On some systems, you need to tweak the configuration. These systems either panic when we call the pcibios or hang at root mounting time. Often time using ISA interrupts on the PCI device fixes the problem. (see pcic.4 for details, but they can be summarized as hw.pcic.intr_path=1 hw.pcic.irq=0 in /boot/loader.conf. You can also "set" these at the boot loader if you are bootstrapping the system). This needs to be documented in the release notes :-) And then there are bugs... : If anyone can help (either by answering the above, or, preferably, : actually writing some release notes-like thing), I'd be most grateful. I can do the above, but writing release notes is hard for me... Warner To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sat Sep 1 3:48:34 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mailman.zeta.org.au (mailman.zeta.org.au [203.26.10.16]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CA69837B405; Sat, 1 Sep 2001 03:48:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: from bde.zeta.org.au (bde.zeta.org.au [203.2.228.102]) by mailman.zeta.org.au (8.9.3/8.8.7) with ESMTP id UAA17781; Sat, 1 Sep 2001 20:48:27 +1000 Date: Sat, 1 Sep 2001 20:48:14 +1000 (EST) From: Bruce Evans X-X-Sender: To: Yar Tikhiy Cc: , Subject: Re: brk(2) manpage seems erroneous and confusing In-Reply-To: <20010901112800.A26502@comp.chem.msu.su> Message-ID: <20010901204223.K1753-100000@besplex.bde.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Sat, 1 Sep 2001, Yar Tikhiy wrote: > The current version of the page contains a number doubtful and > ambiguous statements. I've found at least six of them: > > - brk() should return int, not char* - it's a problem of our unistd.h, too > ... > Despites the page is of little use to programmers now, it has > certain historical value for those who wish to know how Unix > developed. I think it started as returning char *. That's what it returns inv V7. > I'd suggest taking the brk(2) page from NetBSD, which language > looks much better. If noone minds, I'll do that. Of course, I'll > change the function prototypes in the manpage to match our unistd.h > unless we decide to fix the latter, too. Better change unistd.h. The kernel returns int. Bruce To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sat Sep 1 7:30:19 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9772D37B40D for ; Sat, 1 Sep 2001 07:30:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.11.4/8.11.4) id f81EU1d47712; Sat, 1 Sep 2001 07:30:01 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats) Received: from cybercable.fr (e250.dhcp212-25.cybercable.fr [212.198.25.250]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0B49537B408 for ; Sat, 1 Sep 2001 07:29:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from mux@localhost) by cybercable.fr (8.11.6/8.11.4) id f81ETUT02504 for FreeBSD-gnats-submit@freebsd.org; Sat, 1 Sep 2001 16:29:30 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from mux) Message-Id: <200109011429.f81ETUT02504@cybercable.fr> Date: Sat, 1 Sep 2001 16:29:30 +0200 (CEST) From: Maxime Henrion To: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@freebsd.org Subject: docs/30253: [PATCH] mount_unionfs(8) and mount_nullfs(8) manpages outdated Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org >Number: 30253 >Category: docs >Synopsis: [PATCH] mount_unionfs(8) and mount_nullfs(8) manpages outdated >Confidential: no >Severity: non-critical >Priority: medium >Responsible: freebsd-doc >State: open >Quarter: >Keywords: >Date-Required: >Class: doc-bug >Submitter-Id: current-users >Arrival-Date: Sat Sep 01 07:30:01 PDT 2001 >Closed-Date: >Last-Modified: >Originator: Maxime Henrion >Release: FreeBSD 5.0-CURRENT i386 >Organization: None. >Environment: System: FreeBSD nebula.cybercable.fr 5.0-CURRENT FreeBSD 5.0-CURRENT #94: Sat Sep 1 14:27:09 CEST 2001 root@nebula.cybercable.fr:/usr/src/sys/i386/compile/NEBULA i386 >Description: If I remember correctly, unionfs and nullfs file systems have been fixed by Boris Popov, and the fixs have been MFC'ed. However, the manpages still discourage the use of these fs. It would be nice to not scare users of the new release if they can use nullfs and unionfs without risk :-) Here is a little patch for this. >How-To-Repeat: >Fix: --- pr begins here --- --- /usr/src/sbin/mount_unionfs/mount_unionfs.8 Sun Jul 15 12:59:34 2001 +++ mount_unionfs.8 Sat Sep 1 15:29:29 2001 @@ -182,33 +182,10 @@ .Xr fstab 5 , .Xr mount 8 , .Xr mount_nullfs 8 -.Sh BUGS -THIS FILESYSTEM TYPE IS NOT YET FULLY SUPPORTED (READ: IT DOESN'T WORK) -AND USING IT MAY, IN FACT, DESTROY DATA ON YOUR SYSTEM. USE AT YOUR -OWN RISK. BEWARE OF DOG. SLIPPERY WHEN WET. -.Pp -This code also needs an owner in order to be less dangerous - serious -hackers can apply by sending mail to -.Aq hackers@FreeBSD.org -and announcing -their intent to take it over. -.Pp -Without whiteout support from the filesystem backing the upper layer, -there is no way that delete and rename operations on lower layer -objects can be done. -.Er EROFS -is returned for this kind of operations along with any others -which would make modifications to the lower layer, such as -.Xr chmod 1 . -.Pp -Running -.Xr find 1 -over a union tree has the side-effect of creating -a tree of shadow directories in the upper layer. .Sh HISTORY The .Nm command first appeared in .Bx 4.4 . It first worked in -.Fx Ns -(fill this in) . +.Fx 4.4 . --- mount_nullfs.8 Wed Aug 15 00:38:58 2001 +++ mount_nullfs.8 Sat Sep 1 15:22:37 2001 @@ -228,16 +228,6 @@ .Pp UCLA Technical Report CSD-910056, .Em "Stackable Layers: an Architecture for File System Development" . -.Sh BUGS -THIS FILESYSTEM TYPE IS NOT YET FULLY SUPPORTED (READ: IT DOESN'T WORK) -AND USING IT MAY, IN FACT, DESTROY DATA ON YOUR SYSTEM. USE AT YOUR -OWN RISK. BEWARE OF DOG. SLIPPERY WHEN WET. -.Pp -This code also needs an owner in order to be less dangerous - serious -hackers can apply by sending mail to -.Aq hackers@FreeBSD.org -and announcing -their intent to take it over. .Sh HISTORY The .Nm --- pr ends here --- >Release-Note: >Audit-Trail: >Unformatted: SEND-PR: -*- send-pr -*- SEND-PR: Lines starting with `SEND-PR' will be removed automatically, as SEND-PR: will all comments (text enclosed in `<' and `>'). SEND-PR: SEND-PR: Please consult the send-pr man page `send-pr(1)' or the Texinfo SEND-PR: manual if you are not sure how to fill out a problem report. SEND-PR: Note that the Synopsis field is mandatory. SEND-PR: SEND-PR: Choose from the following categories: SEND-PR: SEND-PR: advocacy alpha bin conf docs gnu SEND-PR: i386 kern misc ports sparc SEND-PR: To: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@freebsd.org From: mux Cc: X-send-pr-version: 3.113 X-GNATS-Notify: To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sat Sep 1 7:51:28 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mailout05.sul.t-online.de (mailout05.sul.t-online.com [194.25.134.82]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4A1E337B406 for ; Sat, 1 Sep 2001 07:51:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: from fwd05.sul.t-online.de by mailout05.sul.t-online.de with smtp id 15dC7J-0001J8-04; Sat, 01 Sep 2001 16:51:25 +0200 Received: from home.reuthen.net (320090752184-0001@[62.227.103.214]) by fmrl05.sul.t-online.com with esmtp id 15dC76-1f1Z4KC; Sat, 1 Sep 2001 16:51:12 +0200 Received: (from root@localhost) by home.reuthen.net (8.11.1/8.11.1) id f81Eo0p00245 for freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org; Sat, 1 Sep 2001 16:50:00 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from soeren) Date: Sat, 1 Sep 2001 16:50:00 +0200 (CEST) From: Soeren Kalesse Message-Id: <200109011450.f81Eo0p00245@home.reuthen.net> To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org X-Sender: 320090752184-0001@t-dialin.net Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sat Sep 1 9:20:10 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from csun.edu (krusty.csun.edu [130.166.1.51]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3D08A37B40B for ; Sat, 1 Sep 2001 09:20:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: from csun.edu (s097n152.csun.edu [130.166.97.152]) by csun.edu (8.9.3 (MessagingDirect 1.0.4)/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA16217516; Sat, 1 Sep 2001 09:20:03 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <3B910ABE.7FE9EDD5@csun.edu> Date: Sat, 01 Sep 2001 09:20:14 -0700 From: Albert Kinderman X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.76 [en] (X11; U; FreeBSD 4.4-RC i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: doc@FreeBSD.org Subject: Problems with Handbook - Installation Instructions Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org The new installation instructions in the Handbook are great! This is a tremendous improvement. But (you knew the but was coming, didn't you?), there are some problems with http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/install-start.html Figures 2-3, 2-4, and 2-5 overlay what should be the following text, making it not visible. In fact, Figure 2-4 overlays the top part of Figure 2-5. I found no other similar examples in the rest of chapter 2. By the way, Section 2.11.1 is still entitled "Placeholder." 8=) I am using Netscape 4.76 on FreeBSD 4.3-STABLE, aka 4.4-RC, in case the problem is browser specific. -- Albert Kinderman Department of Management Science California State University, Northridge To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sat Sep 1 9:51:41 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from postfix1-2.free.fr (postfix1-2.free.fr [213.228.0.130]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6138F37B406 for ; Sat, 1 Sep 2001 09:51:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: from bluerondo.a.la.turk (nas-cbv-5-45-245.dial.proxad.net [212.27.45.245]) by postfix1-2.free.fr (Postfix) with SMTP id 02844AB3EC for ; Sat, 1 Sep 2001 18:51:37 +0200 (CEST) Received: (qmail 553 invoked by uid 1001); 1 Sep 2001 16:51:38 -0000 Date: Sat, 1 Sep 2001 18:51:38 +0200 From: Rahul Siddharthan To: Albert Kinderman Cc: doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Problems with Handbook - Installation Instructions Message-ID: <20010901185137.A513@lpt.ens.fr> References: <3B910ABE.7FE9EDD5@csun.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <3B910ABE.7FE9EDD5@csun.edu>; from albert.kinderman@csun.edu on Sat, Sep 01, 2001 at 09:20:14AM -0700 X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 4.4-PRERELEASE i386 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Albert Kinderman said on Sep 1, 2001 at 09:20:14: > http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/install-start.html > > Figures 2-3, 2-4, and 2-5 overlay what should be the following > text, making it not visible. In fact, Figure 2-4 overlays the top > part of Figure 2-5. I found no other similar examples in the rest > of chapter 2. > I am using Netscape 4.76 on FreeBSD 4.3-STABLE, aka 4.4-RC, in > case the problem is browser specific. I guess it is a Netscape 4 bug. I see the problem with it but not with Konqueror. Given that lots of people still use Netscape, probably it should be fixed somehow ... I have three browsers installed: Konqueror, which is the fastest but has some bugs; Mozilla, which is stable and correct but slow and heavy; Netscape 4, very buggy and crashes a lot but is the only one which handles java and plug-ins. Not a nice situation... To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sat Sep 1 9:58:21 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from postfix2-1.free.fr (postfix2-1.free.fr [213.228.0.9]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 809A337B43C for ; Sat, 1 Sep 2001 09:58:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: from bluerondo.a.la.turk (nas-cbv-5-44-15.dial.proxad.net [212.27.44.15]) by postfix2-1.free.fr (Postfix) with SMTP id A80793A0 for ; Sat, 1 Sep 2001 18:58:13 +0200 (CEST) Received: (qmail 625 invoked by uid 1001); 1 Sep 2001 16:58:14 -0000 Date: Sat, 1 Sep 2001 18:58:14 +0200 From: Rahul Siddharthan To: Albert Kinderman Cc: doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Problems with Handbook - Installation Instructions Message-ID: <20010901185814.A604@lpt.ens.fr> References: <3B910ABE.7FE9EDD5@csun.edu> <20010901185137.A513@lpt.ens.fr> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <20010901185137.A513@lpt.ens.fr>; from rsidd@physics.iisc.ernet.in on Sat, Sep 01, 2001 at 06:51:38PM +0200 X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 4.4-PRERELEASE i386 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Rahul Siddharthan said on Sep 1, 2001 at 18:51:38: > > http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/install-start.html > > > > Figures 2-3, 2-4, and 2-5 overlay what should be the following > > text, making it not visible. In fact, Figure 2-4 overlays the top > > part of Figure 2-5. I found no other similar examples in the rest > > of chapter 2. > > I guess it is a Netscape 4 bug. I see the problem with it but not > with Konqueror. Apropos of which, when you feed it to http://validator.w3.org the only html errors reported are missing "alt" tags in the images (maybe that can be fixed too?) while the CSS validates perfectly. So there's no error there. Just that Netscape 4 can't handle css well... - R To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sat Sep 1 21:12:54 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from femail27.sdc1.sfba.home.com (femail27.sdc1.sfba.home.com [24.254.60.17]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5ABFB37B409; Sat, 1 Sep 2001 21:12:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: from intruder.bmah.org ([24.176.204.87]) by femail27.sdc1.sfba.home.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.20 201-229-121-120-20010223) with ESMTP id <20010902041247.STKT642.femail27.sdc1.sfba.home.com@intruder.bmah.org>; Sat, 1 Sep 2001 21:12:47 -0700 Received: (from bmah@localhost) by intruder.bmah.org (8.11.6/8.11.3) id f824CkD03205; Sat, 1 Sep 2001 21:12:46 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from bmah) Message-Id: <200109020412.f824CkD03205@intruder.bmah.org> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.5 07/13/2001 with nmh-1.0.4 To: Warner Losh Cc: bmah@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Documenting pcic changes to -CURRENT and -STABLE In-Reply-To: <200109010833.f818X0h10099@harmony.village.org> References: <200108312226.f7VMQWk00844@intruder.bmah.org> <200109010833.f818X0h10099@harmony.village.org> Comments: In-reply-to Warner Losh message dated "Sat, 01 Sep 2001 02:33:00 -0600." From: bmah@FreeBSD.ORG (Bruce A. Mah) Reply-To: bmah@FreeBSD.ORG X-Face: g~c`.{#4q0"(V*b#g[i~rXgm*w;:nMfz%_RZLma)UgGN&=j`5vXoU^@n5v4:OO)c["!w)nD/!!~e4Sj7LiT'6*wZ83454H""lb{CC%T37O!!'S$S&D}sem7I[A 2V%N&+ X-Image-Url: http://www.employees.org/~bmah/Images/bmah-cisco-small.gif X-Url: http://www.employees.org/~bmah/ Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="==_Exmh_-1727125776P"; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Date: Sat, 01 Sep 2001 21:12:46 -0700 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org --==_Exmh_-1727125776P Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii If memory serves me right, Warner Losh wrote: > In message <200108312226.f7VMQWk00844@intruder.bmah.org> Bruce A. Mah writes: > : To kick things off...here was a list of questions I would have needed > : to write something up. Some of this might be "remedial knowledge" to > : some...it might not need to go in release notes entries, but I wouldn't > : be able to write anything without knowing this... > > I'll do my best. Sorry for not replying sooner. [snip] Thanks Warner, much appreciated! I was hoping that you'd be able to spend time working on code (or dealing with little incidentals like eating or sleeping) rather than replying to my questions. I think I can write up something now...I just need a little time away from my houseguests first. :-) In any case, thanks for educating me. Cheers, Bruce. --==_Exmh_-1727125776P Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (FreeBSD) Comment: Exmh version 2.3.1+ 05/14/2001 iD8DBQE7kbG+2MoxcVugUsMRAh6lAJ4mhAHtdxNOXb/e9f8Bz+Ae7R9hdgCg3IwZ FKXD9cWegusmKFeX2Ris9jM= =7dIS -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --==_Exmh_-1727125776P-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sat Sep 1 21:16:16 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from rover.village.org (rover.bsdimp.com [204.144.255.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 49F5537B409; Sat, 1 Sep 2001 21:16:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: from harmony.village.org (harmony.village.org [10.0.0.6]) by rover.village.org (8.11.3/8.11.3) with ESMTP id f824GAX10215; Sat, 1 Sep 2001 22:16:11 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from imp@harmony.village.org) Received: from harmony.village.org (localhost.village.org [127.0.0.1]) by harmony.village.org (8.11.3/8.11.4) with ESMTP id f824G9h17457; Sat, 1 Sep 2001 22:16:09 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from imp@harmony.village.org) Message-Id: <200109020416.f824G9h17457@harmony.village.org> To: bmah@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Documenting pcic changes to -CURRENT and -STABLE Cc: freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG In-reply-to: Your message of "Sat, 01 Sep 2001 21:12:46 PDT." <200109020412.f824CkD03205@intruder.bmah.org> References: <200109020412.f824CkD03205@intruder.bmah.org> <200108312226.f7VMQWk00844@intruder.bmah.org> <200109010833.f818X0h10099@harmony.village.org> Date: Sat, 01 Sep 2001 22:16:09 -0600 From: Warner Losh Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org In message <200109020412.f824CkD03205@intruder.bmah.org> Bruce A. Mah writes: : Thanks Warner, much appreciated! I was hoping that you'd be able to : spend time working on code (or dealing with little incidentals like : eating or sleeping) rather than replying to my questions. Well, I've been in "take a break and think about the last few problems mode" right now. I've managed to dig a 15' long 2' deep trench in the last few days while working on it in the back of my brain. Only 35'[*] to go :-) Warner To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message