From owner-freebsd-doc Sun Dec 16 6:19:34 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from relay3-gui.server.ntli.net (relay3-gui.server.ntli.net [194.168.4.200]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 519B637B405 for ; Sun, 16 Dec 2001 06:19:30 -0800 (PST) Received: from pc3-card4-0-cust122.cdf.cable.ntl.com ([62.254.251.122] helo=rhadamanth.private.submonkey.net ident=exim) by relay3-gui.server.ntli.net with esmtp (Exim 3.03 #2) id 16Fc8X-0006aB-00 for freebsd-doc@freebsd.org; Sun, 16 Dec 2001 14:19:29 +0000 Received: from setantae by rhadamanth.private.submonkey.net with local (Exim 3.33 #1) id 16Fc8T-0000Jd-00 for freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org; Sun, 16 Dec 2001 14:19:25 +0000 Date: Sun, 16 Dec 2001 14:19:25 +0000 From: Ceri To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Subject: Request for article review docs/32381 Message-ID: <20011216141925.GA1118@rhadamanth> Mail-Followup-To: Ceri , freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.24i Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Could someone please take a look at docs/32381 and let me know if there are any problems with it ? Thanks, Ceri -- keep a mild groove on To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sun Dec 16 6:31:21 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mail.totalise.co.uk (mail.totalise.co.uk [217.197.192.130]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B9FBA37B417; Sun, 16 Dec 2001 06:31:19 -0800 (PST) Received: from uk.FreeBSD.org [80.4.35.237] (hitenp@mail.totalise.co.uk) by mail.totalise.co.uk; Sun, 16 Dec 2001 14:30:12 +0000 X-WM-Posted-At: mail.totalise.co.uk; Sun, 16 Dec 01 14:30:12 +0000 Message-ID: <3C1CB000.4C208D03@uk.FreeBSD.org> Date: Sun, 16 Dec 2001 14:30:24 +0000 From: Hiten Pandya Reply-To: hiten@uk.FreeBSD.org Organization: posixmasters.org X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.78 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.org, setantae@submonkey.net, doc@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: docs/32381: [PATCH] Handbook section on chrooting named is not correct Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org The modification doesn't look bad. It is good to go into the handbook from my point of view. =Hiten = To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sun Dec 16 6:40: 4 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 76CD337B41C for ; Sun, 16 Dec 2001 06:40:01 -0800 (PST) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) id fBGEe1u48824; Sun, 16 Dec 2001 06:40:01 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gnats) Date: Sun, 16 Dec 2001 06:40:01 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <200112161440.fBGEe1u48824@freefall.freebsd.org> To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Cc: From: Hiten Pandya Subject: Re: docs/32381: [PATCH] Handbook section on chrooting named is not correct Reply-To: Hiten Pandya Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org The following reply was made to PR docs/32381; it has been noted by GNATS. From: Hiten Pandya To: freebsd-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.org, setantae@submonkey.net, doc@FreeBSD.org Cc: Subject: Re: docs/32381: [PATCH] Handbook section on chrooting named is not correct Date: Sun, 16 Dec 2001 14:30:24 +0000 The modification doesn't look bad. It is good to go into the handbook from my point of view. =Hiten = To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sun Dec 16 7: 0: 5 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EFBD137B417 for ; Sun, 16 Dec 2001 07:00:01 -0800 (PST) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) id fBGF01a21657; Sun, 16 Dec 2001 07:00:01 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gnats) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C525837B405 for ; Sun, 16 Dec 2001 06:56:24 -0800 (PST) Received: (from nobody@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) id fBGEuOS21275; Sun, 16 Dec 2001 06:56:24 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from nobody) Message-Id: <200112161456.fBGEuOS21275@freefall.freebsd.org> Date: Sun, 16 Dec 2001 06:56:24 -0800 (PST) From: Raf Schietekat To: freebsd-gnats-submit@freebsd.org X-Send-Pr-Version: www-1.0 Subject: docs/32901: Misleading statement about "X Windows" Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org >Number: 32901 >Category: docs >Synopsis: Misleading statement about "X Windows" >Confidential: no >Severity: non-critical >Priority: low >Responsible: freebsd-doc >State: open >Quarter: >Keywords: >Date-Required: >Class: change-request >Submitter-Id: current-users >Arrival-Date: Sun Dec 16 07:00:01 PST 2001 >Closed-Date: >Last-Modified: >Originator: Raf Schietekat >Release: 4.4-R >Organization: >Environment: N/A >Description: http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/x-understanding.html has a section: >How-To-Repeat: N/A >Fix: Suggested improvement (aiming for neutrality, self-containedness), carefully deliberated (so don't dismiss lightly): >Release-Note: >Audit-Trail: >Unformatted: >>>>> X can be called ``X'', ``X Window System'', ``X11'', and other terms. ``X Windows'' is to be avoided wherever possible; see X(1) for more information. <<<<< Problems: X(1) link is broken, and it is an overblown statement about "X Windows". >>>>> Alternative forms for ``X'' suggested by the X Consortium, such as the trademarked full name ``X Window System'' and a few combinations which add the version number, can be found in X(1). If you want to adhere to that list, you should not be calling it ` `X Windows'', another name commonly used. <<<<< The link for X(1) should be http://www.FreeBSD.org/cgi/man.cgi?query=X&manpath=FreeBSD+Ports Also nice would be a link for the X Consortium (www.x.org doesn't seem to mention that name, BTW). To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sun Dec 16 7:10:47 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from web10104.mail.yahoo.com (web10104.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.130.54]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id BB5DC37B41D for ; Sun, 16 Dec 2001 07:10:44 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <20011216151043.17562.qmail@web10104.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [213.29.11.17] by web10104.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sun, 16 Dec 2001 07:10:43 PST Date: Sun, 16 Dec 2001 07:10:43 -0800 (PST) From: soheil hyeganeh Subject: where is the implementation of compress() in /usr/src/sys/net/zlib.h To: freebsd-question@freebsd.org Cc: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org hi where can i find the implementation of the compress ( Bytef * , long *, Bytef * , long) in the /usr/src/sys/net/zlib.h it is not in the zlib.c but in standard c zlib lib. we can use cc -lz and use the compress() func. how can i use the compress() func. in the source code of the kernel (BSD 4.4) thanx a lot __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? 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Buy at http://shopping.yahoo.com or bid at http://auctions.yahoo.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sun Dec 16 7:18: 3 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from web10102.mail.yahoo.com (web10102.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.130.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 44BF637B419 for ; Sun, 16 Dec 2001 07:18:00 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <20011216151800.17921.qmail@web10102.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [213.29.11.17] by web10102.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sun, 16 Dec 2001 07:18:00 PST Date: Sun, 16 Dec 2001 07:18:00 -0800 (PST) From: soheil hyeganeh Subject: where is the implementation of compress() in /usr/src/sys/net/zlib.h To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Cc: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org hi where is the implementation of the compress (Bytef *, long *, Bytef *, long) that it's interface is in /usr/src/sys/net/zlib.h it is not in the /usr/src/sys/net/zlib.c but we can use the standard zlib.h lib by cc -lz i want to know how i can use the compress func. in the kernel source code < ip_output.c > i inlude the but there is no imp. for the compress func. thanx __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? 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Buy at http://shopping.yahoo.com or bid at http://auctions.yahoo.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sun Dec 16 8:10: 6 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4166137B41C for ; Sun, 16 Dec 2001 08:10:01 -0800 (PST) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) id fBGGA1l35170; Sun, 16 Dec 2001 08:10:01 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gnats) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D025537B419 for ; Sun, 16 Dec 2001 08:05:21 -0800 (PST) Received: (from nobody@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) id fBGG5LJ34279; Sun, 16 Dec 2001 08:05:21 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from nobody) Message-Id: <200112161605.fBGG5LJ34279@freefall.freebsd.org> Date: Sun, 16 Dec 2001 08:05:21 -0800 (PST) From: Hiten Pandya To: freebsd-gnats-submit@freebsd.org X-Send-Pr-Version: www-1.0 Subject: docs/32904: [PATCH] - add kern.maxusers to loader(8) man page Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org >Number: 32904 >Category: docs >Synopsis: [PATCH] - add kern.maxusers to loader(8) man page >Confidential: no >Severity: non-critical >Priority: medium >Responsible: freebsd-doc >State: open >Quarter: >Keywords: >Date-Required: >Class: doc-bug >Submitter-Id: current-users >Arrival-Date: Sun Dec 16 08:10:01 PST 2001 >Closed-Date: >Last-Modified: >Originator: Hiten Pandya >Release: 5.0-CURRENT >Organization: >Environment: FreeBSD hpdi.ath.cx 5.0-CURRENT FreeBSD 5.0-CURRENT #1: Wed Dec 12 00:34:45 GMT 2001 hitenp@hpdi.ath.cx:/usr/obj/data/dev/src/sys/CURRENT5 i386 >Description: The loader(8) man page is missing the kern.maxusers tunable information. The topic was originally raised when rwatson was making corrections to the tuning(7) man page. I am attaching a patch, which will add this tunable information to the loader(8) man page, which will make it clear for people that kern.maxusers can be set at boot time. >How-To-Repeat: Visit the loader(8) man page, and you will notice kern.maxusers is missing. :-) >Fix: *** loader.8.old Fri Dec 7 09:04:51 2001 --- loader.8 Fri Dec 7 09:04:59 2001 *************** *** 397,402 **** --- 397,411 ---- Other variables are used to override kernel tunable parameters. The following tunables are available: .Bl -tag -width Va + .It Va kern.maxusers + Sets the static sizing number of the internal + systems table. The tunable defaults to a very + low value. We recommend modifying the value + for this tunable to (default: 32) 64, 128 or + 256. Please do not assign a value higher + than 256 unless you need a huge amount of file + descriptors. Modifies kernel config(8) + .Va maxusers . .It Va kern.ipc.nmbclusters Set the number of mbuf clusters to be allocated. The value cannot be set below the default >Release-Note: >Audit-Trail: >Unformatted: To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sun Dec 16 8:52:31 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.dev.itouchnet.net (devco.net [196.15.188.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ABE6137B41B for ; Sun, 16 Dec 2001 08:52:27 -0800 (PST) Received: from nobody by mx1.dev.itouchnet.net with scanned_ok (Exim 3.33 #2) id 16FeY6-0006yF-00 for freebsd-doc@freebsd.org; Sun, 16 Dec 2001 18:54:02 +0200 Received: from shell.devco.net ([196.15.188.7]) by mx1.dev.itouchnet.net with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #2) id 16FeY4-0006xu-00; Sun, 16 Dec 2001 18:54:00 +0200 Received: from bvi by shell.devco.net with local (Exim 3.33 #4) id 16FebE-000AeI-00; Sun, 16 Dec 2001 18:57:16 +0200 Date: Sun, 16 Dec 2001 18:57:16 +0200 From: Barry Irwin To: soheil hyeganeh Cc: freebsd-question@freebsd.org, freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: where is the implementation of compress() in /usr/src/sys/net/zlib.h Message-ID: <20011216185716.B30577@itouchlabs.com> References: <20011216151043.17562.qmail@web10104.mail.yahoo.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <20011216151043.17562.qmail@web10104.mail.yahoo.com>; from soheil_has@yahoo.com on Sun, Dec 16, 2001 at 07:10:43AM -0800 X-Checked: This message has been scanned for any virusses and unauthorized attachments. X-iScan-ID: 26795-1008521641-53763@mx1.dev.itouchnet.net version $Name: REL_2_0_2 $ Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Sun 2001-12-16 (07:10), soheil hyeganeh wrote: > where can i find the implementation of the > compress ( Bytef * , long *, Bytef * , long) in the > /usr/src/sys/net/zlib.h > it is not in the zlib.c > but in standard c zlib lib. we can use cc -lz and use > the compress() func. > how can i use the compress() func. in the source code > of the kernel (BSD 4.4) not Directly pertaining to your question, but if you are wanting to do compression on IP payloads, have a look at the IPCOMP suppot which is covered by the KAME IPSEC/IPv6 Stack under bsd. man setkey(8) and have a read of that wrt setting up compression between hosts. 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To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sun Dec 16 11:33:15 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from web10103.mail.yahoo.com (web10103.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.130.53]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id B3E7937B41A for ; Sun, 16 Dec 2001 11:33:10 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <20011216193310.28942.qmail@web10103.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [213.29.102.17] by web10103.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sun, 16 Dec 2001 11:33:10 PST Date: Sun, 16 Dec 2001 11:33:10 -0800 (PST) From: soheil hyeganeh Subject: where can i find something useful about the kernel Makefile? To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org hi where can i find something useful about the kern. Makefile configuration or the making process of the kernel . thanx __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Check out Yahoo! Shopping and Yahoo! Auctions for all of your unique holiday gifts! Buy at http://shopping.yahoo.com or bid at http://auctions.yahoo.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sun Dec 16 13:10:15 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2D88737B420 for ; Sun, 16 Dec 2001 13:10:01 -0800 (PST) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) id fBGLA1e19268; Sun, 16 Dec 2001 13:10:01 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gnats) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C6AA637B427 for ; Sun, 16 Dec 2001 13:04:01 -0800 (PST) Received: (from nobody@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) id fBGL41A14652; Sun, 16 Dec 2001 13:04:01 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from nobody) Message-Id: <200112162104.fBGL41A14652@freefall.freebsd.org> Date: Sun, 16 Dec 2001 13:04:01 -0800 (PST) From: Evan Sarmiento To: freebsd-gnats-submit@freebsd.org X-Send-Pr-Version: www-1.0 Subject: docs/32910: [NEW DOC] The Jail Subsystem Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org >Number: 32910 >Category: docs >Synopsis: [NEW DOC] The Jail Subsystem >Confidential: no >Severity: non-critical >Priority: medium >Responsible: freebsd-doc >State: open >Quarter: >Keywords: >Date-Required: >Class: change-request >Submitter-Id: current-users >Arrival-Date: Sun Dec 16 13:10:01 PST 2001 >Closed-Date: >Last-Modified: >Originator: Evan Sarmiento >Release: 4.4-STABLE >Organization: >Environment: FreeBSD teqnix.sekt7.org 4.4-STABLE FreeBSD 4.4-STABLE #0: Fri Nov 23 12:46:55 EST 2001 kaworu@teqnix.sekt7.org:/FreeBSD/FreeBSD-stable/src/sys/compile/EVMS i386 >Description: This document describes the Jail source code, describing how it works in both userland and kernel space. I wrote this a while ago, it has been on DaemonNews, in the September issue, just this weekend, (because i'm out of school), I turned it into DocBook format. 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Do not forget enter all redirect e-mails too. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sun Dec 16 19:50: 5 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 298D637B41A for ; Sun, 16 Dec 2001 19:50:01 -0800 (PST) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) id fBH3o1a23176; Sun, 16 Dec 2001 19:50:01 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gnats) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AD65C37B41A for ; Sun, 16 Dec 2001 19:48:41 -0800 (PST) Received: (from nobody@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) id fBH3mfP22985; Sun, 16 Dec 2001 19:48:41 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from nobody) Message-Id: <200112170348.fBH3mfP22985@freefall.freebsd.org> Date: Sun, 16 Dec 2001 19:48:41 -0800 (PST) From: Graeme Cross To: freebsd-gnats-submit@freebsd.org X-Send-Pr-Version: www-1.0 Subject: docs/32921: Dead URL in FreeBSD FAQ Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org >Number: 32921 >Category: docs >Synopsis: Dead URL in FreeBSD FAQ >Confidential: no >Severity: non-critical >Priority: low >Responsible: freebsd-doc >State: open >Quarter: >Keywords: >Date-Required: >Class: doc-bug >Submitter-Id: current-users >Arrival-Date: Sun Dec 16 19:50:01 PST 2001 >Closed-Date: >Last-Modified: >Originator: Graeme Cross >Release: >Organization: >Environment: >Description: http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/faq/commercial.html has a dead link (Section 5.1, "You can purchase ApplixWare for FreeBSD here.") The dead link points to http://www.wccdrom.com/titles/freebsd/applix.phtml >How-To-Repeat: >Fix: I can't find an alternative URL at FreeBSDMall (the replacement for www.wccdrom.com?) I would suggest simply deleting the line in question. >Release-Note: >Audit-Trail: >Unformatted: To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sun Dec 16 22:44:12 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx.mb.nma.ne.jp (mx.mb.nma.ne.jp [61.125.128.23]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 39D8C37B41A for ; Sun, 16 Dec 2001 22:44:07 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 24855 invoked from network); 17 Dec 2001 15:44:01 +0900 Received: from unknown (HELO hodt21) (61.125.131.250) by mx.mb.nma.ne.jp with SMTP; 17 Dec 2001 15:44:01 +0900 To: doc@freebsd.org From: =?ISO-2022-JP?B?GyRCJS8laiVDJS8lXCE8JUolORsoQg==?= Date: Mon, 17 Dec 2001 15:41:55 +0900 Subject: =?ISO-2022-JP?B?GyRCIXk5LTlwJEc5Yjx9Rn4kTiVBJWMlcyU5GyhC?= =?ISO-2022-JP?B?GyRCIXkbKEI=?= X-Mailer: IM2001 Version 2.01 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-2022-jp Message-Id: <1217101154155.1720@hodt21> Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org FreeBSD in the press $BK]LuHG!!%5%$%H4IM}l9g$K!"(B $B#1L>$K$D$-#6#0#01_$r$*;YJ'$$$7$^$9!#(B $B%/%j%C%/%\!<%J%9$,B>o$KM%$l$F$$$kE@$O(B $B#1!!#6#0#01_!A(B $B$HJs=7$,9b$$(B $B#2!!%P%J!O$,K-IY(B $B#3!!#P#C!"(Bi$B%b!<%I!"(BJ-sky$B$NA45!\:Y$O!"2<5-(BURL$B$h$j$4Mw$$$?$@$-!"$<$R$48!F$$/$@$5$$!#(B http://www.click-bonus.com/click.phtml/3 $B$4e$2$^$9!#(B $B7I6q(B ************************************* $BM-8B2q; Mon, 17 Dec 2001 01:40:02 -0800 (PST) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) id fBH9e2J97025; Mon, 17 Dec 2001 01:40:02 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gnats) Date: Mon, 17 Dec 2001 01:40:02 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <200112170940.fBH9e2J97025@freefall.freebsd.org> To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Cc: From: Ceri Subject: Re: docs/32921: Dead URL in FreeBSD FAQ Reply-To: Ceri Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org The following reply was made to PR docs/32921; it has been noted by GNATS. From: Ceri To: Graeme Cross Cc: freebsd-gnats-submit@freebsd.org Subject: Re: docs/32921: Dead URL in FreeBSD FAQ Date: Mon, 17 Dec 2001 09:38:13 +0000 Well it seems that ApplixWare is now called AnyWare, but there is an ApplixWare Office 4.42 available from here : http://www.vistasource.com/products/axware/platforms If anyone knows for sure that this is the same thing, then here's a patch. Ceri --- doc.old/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/faq/book.sgml Thu Dec 13 20:35:03 2001 +++ doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/faq/book.sgml Mon Dec 17 09:36:15 2001 @@ -4715,10 +4715,8 @@ - The FreeBSD Mall - offers a FreeBSD native version of VistaSource - ApplixWare 5. + VistaSource + produce a FreeBSD native version of ApplixWare 4.42. ApplixWare is a rich full-featured, commercial Office Suite for FreeBSD containing a word processor, @@ -4727,7 +4725,7 @@ You can purchase ApplixWare for FreeBSD here. + url="http://www.vistasource.com/products/axware/platforms">here. 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    To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Mon Dec 17 10:10: 8 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 36A2137B41B for ; Mon, 17 Dec 2001 10:10:01 -0800 (PST) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) id fBHIA1q60658; Mon, 17 Dec 2001 10:10:01 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gnats) Received: from relay3-gui.server.ntli.net (relay3-gui.server.ntli.net [194.168.4.200]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8FDA837B41D for ; Mon, 17 Dec 2001 10:04:14 -0800 (PST) Received: from pc3-card4-0-cust122.cdf.cable.ntl.com ([62.254.251.122] helo=rhadamanth.private.submonkey.net ident=exim) by relay3-gui.server.ntli.net with esmtp (Exim 3.03 #2) id 16G27Z-0005EY-00 for FreeBSD-gnats-submit@freebsd.org; Mon, 17 Dec 2001 18:04:13 +0000 Received: from setantae by rhadamanth.private.submonkey.net with local (Exim 3.33 #1) id 16G27U-000B8Z-00 for FreeBSD-gnats-submit@freebsd.org; Mon, 17 Dec 2001 18:04:08 +0000 Message-Id: Date: Mon, 17 Dec 2001 18:04:08 +0000 From: Ceri Reply-To: Ceri To: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@freebsd.org X-Send-Pr-Version: 3.113 Subject: docs/32941: Minor grammatical fixes for intro.4 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org >Number: 32941 >Category: docs >Synopsis: Minor grammatical fixes for intro.4 >Confidential: no >Severity: non-critical >Priority: low >Responsible: freebsd-doc >State: open >Quarter: >Keywords: >Date-Required: >Class: doc-bug >Submitter-Id: current-users >Arrival-Date: Mon Dec 17 10:10:01 PST 2001 >Closed-Date: >Last-Modified: >Originator: Ceri >Release: FreeBSD 4.4-STABLE i386 >Organization: >Environment: System: FreeBSD rhadamanth.private.submonkey.net 4.4-STABLE FreeBSD 4.4-STABLE #0: Wed Dec 5 00:48:29 GMT 2001 root@rhadamanth.private.submonkey.net:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/RHADAMANTH i386 Today's doc tree >Description: intro.4 could benefit from a couple of minor gramamatical fixups and spelling errors (well, behaviour is the British way, but I think manpages should be in American ?) Ceri >How-To-Repeat: man 4 intro >Fix: Here be patches: --- src/share/man/man4/intro.4.old Mon Dec 17 17:50:03 2001 +++ src/share/man/man4/intro.4 Mon Dec 17 17:59:37 2001 @@ -32,14 +32,14 @@ .Nm intro .Nd introduction to devices and device drivers .Sh DESCRIPTION -This section contains information related to devices, device driver +This section contains information related to devices, device drivers and miscellaneous hardware. .Ss The device abstraction Device is a term used mostly for hardware-related stuff that belongs to the system, like disks, printers, or a graphics display with its keyboard. There are also so-called .Em pseudo-devices -where a device driver emulates the behaviour of a device in software +where a device driver emulates the behavior of a device in software without any particular underlying hardware. A typical example for the latter class is .Pa /dev/mem , @@ -60,7 +60,7 @@ .Xr mmap 2 . Not all drivers implement all system calls, for example, calling .Xr mmap 2 -on a terminal devices is likely to be not useful at all. +on terminal devices is not likely to be useful. .Ss Accessing Devices Most of the devices in a unix-like operating system are accessed through so-called @@ -93,7 +93,7 @@ .Em block and .Em character -devices, or by a better name, buffered and unbuffered +devices, or to use better terms, buffered and unbuffered (raw) devices. The traditional names are reflected by the letters .Ql b @@ -104,7 +104,7 @@ Buffered devices are being accessed through the buffer cache of the operating system, and they are solely intended to layer a file system on top of them. They are normally implemented for disks and disk-like -devices only, for historical reasons also for tape devices. +devices only and, for historical reasons, for tape devices. .Pp Raw devices are available for all drivers, including those that also implement a buffered device. For the latter group of devices, the @@ -124,8 +124,8 @@ floppy disks (i.e. those used like tapes). .Pp -Access restrictions to device nodes are usually subject of the regular -file permissions of the device node entry, instead of being implied +Access restrictions to device nodes are usually subject to the regular +file permissions of the device node entry, instead of being enforced directly by the drivers in the kernel. .Ss Drivers without device nodes Drivers for network devices do not use device nodes in order to be >Release-Note: >Audit-Trail: >Unformatted: To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Mon Dec 17 11: 2:27 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E1D7B37B6A4 for ; Mon, 17 Dec 2001 11:00:28 -0800 (PST) Received: (from peter@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) id fBHJ0Sf73002 for freebsd-doc@freebsd.org; Mon, 17 Dec 2001 11:00:28 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-bugmaster@freebsd.org) Date: Mon, 17 Dec 2001 11:00:28 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <200112171900.fBHJ0Sf73002@freefall.freebsd.org> X-Authentication-Warning: freefall.freebsd.org: peter set sender to owner-bugmaster@freebsd.org using -f From: FreeBSD bugmaster To: FreeBSD doc list Subject: Current unassigned doc problem reports Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Current FreeBSD problem reports The following is a listing of current problems submitted by FreeBSD users. These represent problem reports covering all versions including experimental development code and obsolete releases. Bugs can be in one of several states: o - open A problem report has been submitted, no sanity checking performed. a - analyzed The report has been examined by a team member and evaluated. f - feedback The problem has been solved, and the originator has been given a patch or a fix has been committed. The PR remains in this state pending a response from the originator. s - suspended The problem is not being worked on. This is a prime candidate for somebody who is looking for a project to do. If the problem cannot be solved at all, it will be closed, rather than suspended. c - closed A problem report is closed when any changes have been integrated, documented, and tested. Critical problems Serious problems S Submitted Tracker Resp. Description ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- s [2000/07/18] docs/20028 doc ASCII docs should reflect tags o [2001/05/23] docs/27605 doc Cross-document references () o [2001/10/14] docs/31265 doc crontab(1) doesn't decribe format of allo o [2001/10/29] docs/31607 doc /etc/ppp/pap-secrets needs IP field, whic o [2001/11/29] docs/32381 doc [PATCH] Handbook section on chrooting nam o [2001/12/06] docs/32564 doc [PATCH] MAKEDEV.8 (i386) - wd# is replace o [2001/12/13] docs/32818 doc [PATCH] - Formal Text for /docproj/who.ht 7 problems total. Non-critical problems S Submitted Tracker Resp. Description ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- o [2000/08/05] conf/20436 doc Can't make only cd0 under 4.1-STABLE o [2000/08/10] docs/20528 doc sysconf(3) manpage doesn't mention posix. o [2000/08/20] docs/20738 doc correction and modification to clocks(7) a [2000/09/25] docs/21542 doc sigaction(2) man page is misleading s [2000/11/01] docs/22470 doc man 3 msgrcv's BUGS section needs updatin o [2001/02/01] docs/24786 doc missing FILES descriptions in sa(4) s [2001/02/26] docs/25392 doc Chapter 9 pages could use 'location of fu f [2001/03/22] docs/26003 doc getgroups(2) lists NGROUPS_MAX but not sy a [2001/03/22] docs/26006 doc Changing zone(9) man page o [2001/04/02] docs/26286 doc *printf(3) etc should gain format string o [2001/04/08] docs/26451 doc ctype.h defined functions are not accurat o [2001/04/25] docs/26861 doc accept(2) manpage documents non-existant o [2001/05/25] docs/27653 doc Updates to send-pr.html to support MIME o [2001/05/26] docs/27654 doc Update to PR 27653 o [2001/06/06] docs/27915 doc man 5 passwd does not properly explain th o [2001/06/30] docs/28555 doc [PATCH] style(9) isn't explicit about boo o [2001/07/04] docs/28699 doc strptime(3) %d format specifier not compl o [2001/07/22] docs/29143 doc List of man pages that need to be written o [2001/07/26] docs/29245 doc top(1) manpage doesn't understand SMP f [2001/08/09] docs/29571 doc [PATCH] No man page for pgrp kernel funct a [2001/08/23] docs/30008 doc This document should be translated, comme o [2001/09/08] docs/30442 doc remove broken referemce to gettime(9) fro o [2001/09/13] docs/30556 doc vnconfig man page incorrect; functionalit o [2001/09/15] docs/30603 doc physio(9) is internally inconsistent o [2001/09/22] docs/30731 doc printf(1) refers to ANSI C Standard draft o [2001/09/24] docs/30809 doc fdisk(8) cleanup o [2001/09/27] docs/30873 doc ``ip'' man page does not specify byte ord o [2001/10/07] docs/31109 doc replace gif images w/ png ones due to pat o [2001/10/09] docs/31164 doc man page for strftime is incorrect o [2001/10/14] docs/31263 doc ipfw(8) doesn't explain list versus show. a [2001/10/14] docs/31271 doc rl(4) discourages vender openness by disp o [2001/10/30] docs/31640 doc Avoiding uppercase program names in manpa o [2001/10/30] docs/31653 doc Chapter 14 of the Handbook lacks content o [2001/11/15] docs/32008 doc wrong path for dhclient.conf in dhclient- o [2001/11/15] docs/32020 doc loader.8 manpage missing tunables o [2001/11/16] docs/32041 doc Add point about net.inet.tcp.portange.{fi o [2001/11/16] docs/32042 doc kernfs.5 references files that will (prob o [2001/11/16] docs/32054 doc inconsistency between index.3 and rindex. o [2001/11/23] docs/32241 doc vm_page_alloc.9 rewrite o [2001/11/25] docs/32266 doc an incorrect ERROR section in tunefs.8 a [2001/11/26] docs/32323 doc man page `named(8)' do not have link for o [2001/11/27] docs/32339 doc Sending italian translation for new users o [2001/11/29] docs/32373 doc Bad ifconfig(8) alias advice in FAQ 10.9 o [2001/12/01] docs/32425 doc Document cvs update `P file' output o [2001/12/02] docs/32441 doc ssh-keyscan does not collect v2 keys o [2001/12/02] docs/32451 doc Missing images in vm-design article o [2001/12/02] docs/32452 doc disklabel(8)'s "examine or save" is confu o [2001/12/02] docs/32453 doc loop(4) should exist as link to lo(4). o [2001/12/02] docs/32462 doc ifconfig(8) has extraneous "prefixlength" o [2001/12/02] docs/32463 doc ifconfig(8) missing address_family defaul o [2001/12/03] docs/32468 doc broken link in handbook: sysutils/mkisofs o [2001/12/06] docs/32560 doc make.conf(5) and share/examples/make.conf o [2001/12/06] docs/32561 doc missed functions in pthread(3) o [2001/12/07] docs/32578 doc A _really_ petty change to the front page o [2001/12/09] docs/32662 doc arp(8) uses "this host" with two differen o [2001/12/10] docs/32674 docs no man page for the ntp_adjtime system ca o [2001/12/13] docs/32825 doc undocumented options in LINT o [2001/12/14] docs/32843 doc make at(1) man page Y2K clean o [2001/12/15] docs/32877 doc typo in ipfs.8 o [2001/12/16] docs/32901 doc Misleading statement about "X Windows" o [2001/12/16] docs/32904 doc [PATCH] - add kern.maxusers to loader(8) o [2001/12/16] docs/32910 doc [NEW DOC] The Jail Subsystem o [2001/12/16] docs/32921 doc Dead URL in FreeBSD FAQ o [2001/12/17] docs/32941 doc Minor grammatical fixes for intro.4 64 problems total. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Mon Dec 17 11:37:39 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from rwcrmhc51.attbi.com (rwcrmhc51.attbi.com [204.127.198.38]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1B2C837B405; Mon, 17 Dec 2001 11:37:28 -0800 (PST) Received: from bmah.dyndns.org ([12.233.149.189]) by rwcrmhc51.attbi.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.27 201-229-121-127-20010626) with ESMTP id <20011217193727.VYTA5010.rwcrmhc51.attbi.com@bmah.dyndns.org>; Mon, 17 Dec 2001 19:37:27 +0000 Received: (from bmah@localhost) by bmah.dyndns.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) id fBHJbR810846; Mon, 17 Dec 2001 11:37:27 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from bmah) Message-Id: <200112171937.fBHJbR810846@bmah.dyndns.org> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.5 07/13/2001 with nmh-1.0.4 To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org, freebsd-www@freebsd.org Cc: bmah@freebsd.org Subject: RELNOTESng on Web site From: bmah@freebsd.org (Bruce A. Mah) Reply-To: bmah@freebsd.org X-Face: g~c`.{#4q0"(V*b#g[i~rXgm*w;:nMfz%_RZLma)UgGN&=j`5vXoU^@n5v4:OO)c["!w)nD/!!~e4Sj7LiT'6*wZ83454H""lb{CC%T37O!!'S$S&D}sem7I[A 2V%N&+ X-Image-Url: http://www.employees.org/~bmah/Images/bmah-cisco-small.gif X-Url: http://www.employees.org/~bmah/ Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="==_Exmh_602681234P"; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Date: Mon, 17 Dec 2001 11:37:27 -0800 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org --==_Exmh_602681234P Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Hi folks-- The build of RELNOTESng on the Web site seems to have stopped...the last generated version of the release notes for 4.4-STABLE carries this CVS Id string: $FreeBSD: src/release/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/relnotes/common/new.sgml,v 1.22.2.129 2001/11/17 00:45:14 bmah Exp $ The most recent revision is: $FreeBSD: src/release/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/relnotes/common/new.sgml,v 1.22.2.135 2001/12/11 17:50:09 bmah Exp $ Can someone look into this? (I barely understand how the Web site scripts get called.) Thanks! Bruce. --==_Exmh_602681234P Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (FreeBSD) Comment: Exmh version 2.3.1+ 05/14/2001 iD8DBQE8Hkl32MoxcVugUsMRAnd3AKDjAPJBXAGOWy9U8+KfNhKOfW1BuwCgiS4t ZSaALaEaPcVGbVRR6MGgKNQ= =iK22 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --==_Exmh_602681234P-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Mon Dec 17 11:55:48 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from blackhelicopters.org (geburah.blackhelicopters.org [209.69.178.18]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E3C6137B405 for ; Mon, 17 Dec 2001 11:55:46 -0800 (PST) Received: (from mwlucas@localhost) by blackhelicopters.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) id fBHJtkj75591 for doc@freebsd.org; Mon, 17 Dec 2001 14:55:46 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from mwlucas) Date: Mon, 17 Dec 2001 14:55:46 -0500 From: Michael Lucas To: doc@freebsd.org Subject: scrshot in -stable? Message-ID: <20011217145546.B75541@blackhelicopters.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Folks, I find myself in desperate need of scrshot && shot2png functionality, but it doesn't appear to be in -stable. Did this ever get MFC'd? ==ml -- Michael Lucas mwlucas@FreeBSD.org, mwlucas@BlackHelicopters.org my FreeBSD column: http://www.oreillynet.com/pub/q/Big_Scary_Daemons http://www.blackhelicopters.org/~mwlucas/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Mon Dec 17 12: 0:36 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from odin.ac.hmc.edu (Odin.AC.HMC.Edu [134.173.32.75]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6DC7837B405 for ; Mon, 17 Dec 2001 12:00:30 -0800 (PST) Received: (from brdavis@localhost) by odin.ac.hmc.edu (8.11.0/8.11.0) id fBHK0NY09591; Mon, 17 Dec 2001 12:00:23 -0800 Date: Mon, 17 Dec 2001 12:00:23 -0800 From: Brooks Davis To: Michael Lucas Cc: doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: scrshot in -stable? Message-ID: <20011217120023.A8750@Odin.AC.HMC.Edu> References: <20011217145546.B75541@blackhelicopters.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-md5; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="1yeeQ81UyVL57Vl7" Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <20011217145546.B75541@blackhelicopters.org>; from mwlucas@blackhelicopters.org on Mon, Dec 17, 2001 at 02:55:46PM -0500 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org --1yeeQ81UyVL57Vl7 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Mon, Dec 17, 2001 at 02:55:46PM -0500, Michael Lucas wrote: > Folks, >=20 > I find myself in desperate need of scrshot && shot2png functionality, > but it doesn't appear to be in -stable. >=20 > Did this ever get MFC'd? You capture with "vidcontrol -p" and scr2png is a port. -- Brooks --=20 Any statement of the form "X is the one, true Y" is FALSE. PGP fingerprint 655D 519C 26A7 82E7 2529 9BF0 5D8E 8BE9 F238 1AD4 --1yeeQ81UyVL57Vl7 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE8Hk7WXY6L6fI4GtQRAu3QAKCxRZEfIUHpEdFXqJKAuHgnGAA5LgCg27j3 bzjMrb0yWMBozHLA3NLyfXM= =L93p -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --1yeeQ81UyVL57Vl7-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Mon Dec 17 12:49:51 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AF97737B41B; Mon, 17 Dec 2001 12:49:46 -0800 (PST) Received: (from jasone@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) id fBHKkOh06030; Mon, 17 Dec 2001 12:46:24 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jasone) Date: Mon, 17 Dec 2001 12:46:24 -0800 (PST) From: Message-Id: <200112172046.fBHKkOh06030@freefall.freebsd.org> To: jasone@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-doc@freebsd.org, jasone@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: docs/32561: missed functions in pthread(3) Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Synopsis: missed functions in pthread(3) Responsible-Changed-From-To: freebsd-doc->jasone Responsible-Changed-By: jasone Responsible-Changed-When: Mon Dec 17 12:46:08 PST 2001 Responsible-Changed-Why: I'll take care of this. http://www.FreeBSD.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=32561 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Mon Dec 17 14:36:32 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from white.imgsrc.co.jp (ns.imgsrc.co.jp [210.226.20.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AA85D37B419; Mon, 17 Dec 2001 14:36:30 -0800 (PST) Received: from black.imgsrc.co.jp (black.imgsrc.co.jp [2001:218:422:2:290:27ff:fe98:c0b7]) by white.imgsrc.co.jp (Postfix) with ESMTP id 88EFA24D22; Tue, 18 Dec 2001 07:36:29 +0900 (JST) Received: from waterblue.imgsrc.co.jp (waterblue.imgsrc.co.jp [2001:218:422:2:230:48ff:fe41:161b]) by black.imgsrc.co.jp (Postfix) with ESMTP id EEEEAD1401; Tue, 18 Dec 2001 07:36:28 +0900 (JST) Date: Tue, 18 Dec 2001 07:36:26 +0900 Message-ID: <7msna9eaol.wl@waterblue.imgsrc.co.jp> From: Jun Kuriyama To: Alexey Zelkin Cc: Documentation Team Subject: Re: cvs commit: www/ru Makefile docs.sgml ... In-Reply-To: <200112172107.fBHL7Fn14942@freefall.freebsd.org> References: <200112172107.fBHL7Fn14942@freefall.freebsd.org> User-Agent: Wanderlust/2.6.0 (Twist And Shout) SEMI/1.14.3 (Ushinoya) FLIM/1.14.3 (=?ISO-8859-4?Q?Unebigory=F2mae?=) APEL/10.3 Emacs/21.1 (i386--freebsd) MULE/5.0 (=?ISO-2022-JP?B?GyRCOC1MWhsoQg==?=) MIME-Version: 1.0 (generated by SEMI 1.14.3 - "Ushinoya") Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org At Mon, 17 Dec 2001 13:07:15 -0800 (PST), Alexey Zelkin wrote: > phantom 2001/12/17 13:07:15 PST > > Modified files: > ru/news Makefile news.sgml press-rel-1.sgml > press-rel-2.sgml press-rel-3.sgml > press-rel-4.sgml pressreleases.sgml > sou1999.sgml webchanges.sgml ===> ../ru/news make: don't know how to make news.rdf. Stop *** Error code 2 -- Jun Kuriyama // IMG SRC, Inc. // FreeBSD Project To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Mon Dec 17 20:40:16 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DC21A37B41C for ; Mon, 17 Dec 2001 20:40:01 -0800 (PST) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) id fBI4e1819691; Mon, 17 Dec 2001 20:40:01 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gnats) Received: from undef.unixathome.org (CPE00C0DFB00A2B.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com [24.102.95.54]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D6FF137B41A for ; Mon, 17 Dec 2001 20:35:55 -0800 (PST) Received: (from dan@localhost) by undef.unixathome.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) id fBH5Uua00579; Mon, 17 Dec 2001 00:30:56 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from dan) Message-Id: <200112170530.fBH5Uua00579@undef.unixathome.org> Date: Mon, 17 Dec 2001 00:30:56 -0500 (EST) From: Dan Langille Reply-To: Dan Langille To: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@freebsd.org X-Send-Pr-Version: 3.113 Subject: docs/32955: fix typo in man ukbd (add space missing between two words) Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org >Number: 32955 >Category: docs >Synopsis: fix typo in man ukbd (add space missing between two words) >Confidential: no >Severity: non-critical >Priority: low >Responsible: freebsd-doc >State: open >Quarter: >Keywords: >Date-Required: >Class: doc-bug >Submitter-Id: current-users >Arrival-Date: Mon Dec 17 20:40:01 PST 2001 >Closed-Date: >Last-Modified: >Originator: Dan Langille >Release: FreeBSD 4.4-STABLE i386 >Organization: The FreeBSD Diary >Environment: System: FreeBSD undef.unixathome.org 4.4-STABLE FreeBSD 4.4-STABLE #2: Sun Dec 16 23:48:39 EST 2001 root@undef.unixathome.org:/usr/src/sys/compile/UNDEF i386 >Description: The main page is missing a space between two words. >How-To-Repeat: man ukbd and search for "tellthe" >Fix: --- ukbd.4.original Mon Dec 17 00:26:36 2001 +++ ukbd.4 Mon Dec 17 00:26:57 2001 @@ -93,7 +93,7 @@ from the kernel configuration file. Because of the order of the device initialisation, the USB keyboard will be detected AFTER the console driver -initialises itself and you have to explicitly tellthe console +initialises itself and you have to explicitly tell the console driver to use the existence of the USB keyboard. This can be done in one of the following two ways. .Pp >Release-Note: >Audit-Trail: >Unformatted: To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Mon Dec 17 21: 4: 3 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from web10102.mail.yahoo.com (web10102.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.130.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id D933B37B41D for ; Mon, 17 Dec 2001 21:04:00 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <20011218050400.12999.qmail@web10102.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [194.225.40.6] by web10102.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Mon, 17 Dec 2001 21:04:00 PST Date: Mon, 17 Dec 2001 21:04:00 -0800 (PST) From: soheil hyeganeh Subject: i append lib/libz/compress.c to the net/zlib.c but it takes an error To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org hi i append the compress.c to the net/zlib.c like many other files but when i compile the kernel it takes an error for the #ifndef line #45 and says there is no terminator for that i want to know why this happend and how can i solve this problem this is very important for me thanx __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? 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Buy at http://shopping.yahoo.com or bid at http://auctions.yahoo.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Mon Dec 17 22:40: 5 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5081037B41D for ; Mon, 17 Dec 2001 22:40:02 -0800 (PST) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) id fBI6e2L63613; Mon, 17 Dec 2001 22:40:02 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gnats) Date: Mon, 17 Dec 2001 22:40:02 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <200112180640.fBI6e2L63613@freefall.freebsd.org> To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Cc: From: Hiten Pandya Subject: re: docs/31607 Reply-To: Hiten Pandya Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org The following reply was made to PR docs/31607; it has been noted by GNATS. From: Hiten Pandya To: bug-followup@FreeBSD.org Cc: Subject: re: docs/31607 Date: Tue, 18 Dec 2001 06:33:15 +0000 This PR can now be closed, as discussion about this topic has already been carried out on the -doc mailing list, as it has also been clarified with the Linux PPP-HowTO about how to resolve the issue. No Patches are needed. =Hiten = To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Mon Dec 17 22:50: 7 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from web21102.mail.yahoo.com (web21102.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.227.104]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id EC11A37B419 for ; Mon, 17 Dec 2001 22:50:02 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <20011218065002.79536.qmail@web21102.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [62.254.0.5] by web21102.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Mon, 17 Dec 2001 22:50:02 PST Date: Mon, 17 Dec 2001 22:50:02 -0800 (PST) From: Hiten Pandya Subject: [SUGGESTION] - A linuxdoc section To: doc@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org hi, do you think it would be good if we had a section on the 'docs' page for linuxdoc based documents which could be used with FreeBSD. Some documents on the linuxdoc project can also be used for FreeBSD related things example: PPP-HowTO Networking-HowTO SGML-Emacs HowTO Practical-PostgreSQL HowTO just a little list of things which we can link to in our linuxdoc section. If you like this idea, please send me a note so I can submit a patch for this as soon as possible. Thanks, Regards, =Hiten = ===== =Hiten = __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Check out Yahoo! Shopping and Yahoo! Auctions for all of your unique holiday gifts! Buy at http://shopping.yahoo.com or bid at http://auctions.yahoo.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Mon Dec 17 23:11: 2 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from guppy.vub.ac.be (guppy.vub.ac.be [134.184.129.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 41B6637B41A for ; Mon, 17 Dec 2001 23:10:47 -0800 (PST) Received: from fort-knox.rave.org (igwe15.vub.ac.be [134.184.49.15]) by guppy.vub.ac.be (8.9.1b+Sun/3.17.1.ap (guppy)) id IAA01735; Tue, 18 Dec 2001 08:10:31 +0100 (MET) for Received: (qmail 8553 invoked by uid 1979); 18 Dec 2001 07:10:38 -0000 Received: from localhost (sendmail-bs@127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 18 Dec 2001 07:10:38 -0000 Date: Tue, 18 Dec 2001 08:10:38 +0100 (CET) From: Wouter Van Hemel To: Hiten Pandya Cc: doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: [SUGGESTION] - A linuxdoc section In-Reply-To: <20011218065002.79536.qmail@web21102.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: PGP: 0B B4 BC 28 53 62 FE 94 6A 57 EE B8 A6 E2 1B E4 (0xAA5412F0) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Mon, 17 Dec 2001, Hiten Pandya wrote: > hi, > do you think it would be good if we had a section on > the 'docs' page for linuxdoc based documents which > could be used with FreeBSD. > > Some documents on the linuxdoc project can also be > used > for FreeBSD related things example: > > [...] > Wouldn't it be easier to just link to the linux doc project? :) wouter To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Tue Dec 18 0:39:54 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C390B37B419; Tue, 18 Dec 2001 00:39:52 -0800 (PST) Received: (from ru@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) id fBI8dmo88682; Tue, 18 Dec 2001 00:39:48 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from ru) Date: Tue, 18 Dec 2001 00:39:48 -0800 (PST) From: Message-Id: <200112180839.fBI8dmo88682@freefall.freebsd.org> To: razor@ldc.ro, ru@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: docs/31607: /etc/ppp/pap-secrets needs IP field, which is not listed as mandatory Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Synopsis: /etc/ppp/pap-secrets needs IP field, which is not listed as mandatory State-Changed-From-To: open->closed State-Changed-By: ru State-Changed-When: Tue Dec 18 00:39:30 PST 2001 State-Changed-Why: Asked and answered. http://www.FreeBSD.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=31607 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Tue Dec 18 1:41:48 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 39A9537B405; Tue, 18 Dec 2001 01:41:46 -0800 (PST) Received: (from ru@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) id fBI9fhN98992; Tue, 18 Dec 2001 01:41:43 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from ru) Date: Tue, 18 Dec 2001 01:41:43 -0800 (PST) From: Message-Id: <200112180941.fBI9fhN98992@freefall.freebsd.org> To: dan@freebsddiary.org, ru@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: docs/32955: fix typo in man ukbd (add space missing between two words) Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Synopsis: fix typo in man ukbd (add space missing between two words) State-Changed-From-To: open->closed State-Changed-By: ru State-Changed-When: Tue Dec 18 01:41:29 PST 2001 State-Changed-Why: Fixed, thanks! http://www.FreeBSD.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=32955 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Tue Dec 18 1:51: 7 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from Postbox.netjoy.ne.jp (Mega.netjoy.ne.jp [157.120.134.13]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1BCA637B417 for ; Tue, 18 Dec 2001 01:51:02 -0800 (PST) Received: from 157.120.135.5 (User100-15.netjoy.ne.jp [157.120.135.15]) by Postbox.netjoy.ne.jp (8.9.3/3.6W-9912271500) with SMTP id SAA14724 for ; Tue, 18 Dec 2001 18:50:53 +0900 (JST) Message-Id: <20011218185053.Postino-025890@postbox.netjoy.ne.jp> Date: Tue, 18 Dec 2001 18:50:53 +0900 To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG From: =?ISO-2022-JP?B?GyRCOjRMbjdDREU7UhsoQg==?= Subject: request for NTT Communications X-Mailer: PostinoClassic Version 1.5.1 PPC X-Priority: 3 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-2022-JP Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Dear Web Master, We at ECraft have edited and produced the NTT Communications Internet Certification ".com Master double star 2002 Official Textbook" to be issued by NTT Communications, a long-distance carrier in the NTT Group (see [Reference Data]). In this textbook your website URL (http://www.freebsd.org/) shows up as a reference site. Thus we are writing this e-mail to obtain your permission for us to publicize your website URL. We would appreciate your understanding concerning our attempt and hope you will give your permission for us to use your URL in this textbook. If you do not want to allow us to use your URL, we are sorry to bother you, but please contact us at the following address. If you do not reply, we will assume that you approve our request. Lastly, we wish you success with your website. Sincerely, For inquiries concerning this matter: ECraft Contact: Ms. Etsuko Sano Phone: 81-3-5362-7945 Fax: 81-3-3353-7686 E-mail$B!'(Be-sano@netjoy.ne.jp ++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Reference Data [Corporate Profile] Name: NTT Communications Corporation (abbr. NTT Com) Address: 1-1-6 Uchisaiwaicho, Chiyoda-ku, Tokyo, Japan 100-8019 Startup date: July 1, 1999 Capital: 211,650 million yen (as of November 29, 2000) No. of employees: About 7,250 (as of March 31, 2001) Business: Domestic and international telecommunications services Subsidiaries and affiliates: Subsidiaries (NTT Com owns more than 50% of the equity): 18 Affiliates (NTT Com owns 20-50% of the equity): 18 [Outline of NTT Communications Internet Certification] This is a certification system established by NTT Com for the purpose of improving basic knowledge of IT engineers for the Internet as well as to promote further utilization of the Internet. Name of the Certification NTT Communications Internet Certification Name of the Qualification .com Master Characteristics of the Certification As this is a certification reflecting the knowledge/expertise possessed by an Internet service provider, it is possible to utilize this certification as a tool to verify the achieved level of knowledge along with the practices of Internet technical support operators. The latest technical trends of the Internet and personal computers are reflected in the questions of the certification tests. The certification year is described in the name of the qualification. By describing the year, this certification can be used as a reliable criteria for judgment conforming to the era. Certification Level The level is divided into the basic level (*: single star) and the middle level (**: double star). In the future an advanced level (***: triple star) will be added. single star Can receive information. Can set a personal computer. Can connect to the Internet and set e-mail and browser. Can advise on settings and how to use applications. Has basic knowledge of IT and can understand the terms. double star Can dispatch information. Understands the basics of contents development. Can develop their own website. Can construct a server for e-mail, WWW and DNS. Has knowledge about security. Can set up the router. URL: http://biz.ocn.ne.jp/master/ (Japanese only) Etsuko Sano e-sano@netjoy.ne.jp To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Tue Dec 18 3:24:38 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from blueyonder.co.uk (pcow034o.blueyonder.co.uk [195.188.53.122]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3904737B417 for ; Tue, 18 Dec 2001 03:24:33 -0800 (PST) Received: from pcow034o.blueyonder.co.uk ([127.0.0.1]) by blueyonder.co.uk with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.757.75); Tue, 18 Dec 2001 11:24:32 +0000 Received: from fluoxetine.lan (unverified) by pcow034o.blueyonder.co.uk (Content Technologies SMTPRS 4.2.5) with ESMTP id ; Tue, 18 Dec 2001 11:24:32 +0000 Date: Tue, 18 Dec 2001 11:27:13 +0000 (GMT) From: Andrew McKay X-Sender: andy@fluoxetine.lan To: Hiten Pandya Cc: doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: [SUGGESTION] - A linuxdoc section In-Reply-To: <20011218065002.79536.qmail@web21102.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Mon, 17 Dec 2001, Hiten Pandya wrote: HP> do you think it would be good if we had a section on HP> the 'docs' page for linuxdoc based documents which HP> could be used with FreeBSD. (assuming this sentence to be a question) No, I don't. The problem with providing linux documentation is that the linux userland is somewhat different, and increasingly so, from the FreeBSD userland. There is clearly a lot of linux documentation which will work verbatim with FreeBSD but by far the majority of it is either subtly or completely different. This is not a problem for experienced users who understand the differences but for new users this is likely to increase confusion when something doesn't work exactly as advertised. Increased confusion leads to increased frustration which leads to increased mailing list traffic and increased abandonment. (It's sad to see that so many people playing around with linux and FreeBSD have absolutely no clue what they are doing. I know of one linux user who was easily convinced, by someone who shall remain nameless, to dd blank data over the first few blocks of his hard drive thus rendering his system unbootable.) On a purist note, FreeBSD needs to be seen to be different from (and better than) linux in all the areas where it is. If we are providing linux documentation it blurs the distinction and makes the arguments for switching from linux to FreeBSD appear weaker. I have no objection to pointing out to people that in some cases linux documentation may be helpful when trying to configure various things. I also have no objection to using more links to HowTOs, from articles and the like, where the author of the FreeBSD documentation knows that the HowTO will likely be helpful. I don't think, however, that providing them as part of the FreeBSD documentation is a good idea from any point of view. There are three ways to approach this problem, in order of increasing difficulty: 1) Ignore 2) Link 3) Create From a personal point of view I would prefer that useful linux documentation be 'ported' (re-written by someone who understands the subject well) to FreeBSD but linking where appropriate is also a good idea. Incidentally, is the PPPPP so bad that we need to link to the linux ppp HowTO? If it is then this needs fixed pretty rapidly. -- Andrew McKay To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Tue Dec 18 4:59:29 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from columbus.cris.net (columbus.cris.net [212.110.128.65]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8B60937B421 for ; Tue, 18 Dec 2001 04:59:14 -0800 (PST) Received: from ark.cris.net (ark.cris.net [212.110.128.68]) by columbus.cris.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA52019; Tue, 18 Dec 2001 14:59:08 +0200 (EET) Received: (from phantom@localhost) by ark.cris.net (8.11.1/8.11.1) id fBICwbX59034; Tue, 18 Dec 2001 14:58:37 +0200 (EET) Date: Tue, 18 Dec 2001 14:58:37 +0200 From: Alexey Zelkin To: Hiten Pandya Cc: doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: [SUGGESTION] - A linuxdoc section Message-ID: <20011218145837.B56694@ark.cris.net> References: <20011218065002.79536.qmail@web21102.mail.yahoo.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0i In-Reply-To: <20011218065002.79536.qmail@web21102.mail.yahoo.com>; from hitmaster2k@yahoo.com on Mon, Dec 17, 2001 at 10:50:02PM -0800 X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 3.5-STABLE i386 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org hi, IIRC we have a port provided for exactly that thing. /usr/ports/misc/Howto On Mon, Dec 17, 2001 at 10:50:02PM -0800, Hiten Pandya wrote: > hi, > do you think it would be good if we had a section on > the 'docs' page for linuxdoc based documents which > could be used with FreeBSD. > > Some documents on the linuxdoc project can also be > used > for FreeBSD related things example: > > PPP-HowTO > Networking-HowTO > SGML-Emacs HowTO > Practical-PostgreSQL HowTO > > just a little list of things which we can link to in > our linuxdoc section. 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    To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Tue Dec 18 5:28:37 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from Kain.sumuk.de (Kain.sumuk.de [213.221.86.114]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0552237B416 for ; Tue, 18 Dec 2001 05:28:34 -0800 (PST) Received: from Moses.earth.sol (Moses.earth.sol [192.168.1.1]) by Kain.sumuk.de (8.11.6/8.11.5) with ESMTP id fBIDSW524492 for ; Tue, 18 Dec 2001 14:28:32 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from martin@sumuk.de) Received: (from vincent@localhost) by Moses.earth.sol (8.11.6/8.11.6) id fBIDSVE06845 for freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG; Tue, 18 Dec 2001 14:28:31 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from vincent) Date: Tue, 18 Dec 2001 14:28:30 +0100 From: Martin Heinen To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Question 6.3 of 'Dialup firewalling with FreeBSD' Message-ID: <20011218142830.A6807@sumuk.de> Reply-To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org The answer to question 6.3 in 'Dialup firewalling with FreeBSD' states that it is impossible to filter RFC-1918 addresses on the outside interface. Ok, it states 'The simple answer is no.', but the article should provide a long answer. Possible solutions: 1) Include the relevant section from the 'simple' setup of /etc/rc.firewall, that is first stop RFC-1918 nets on the outside interface, then do NAT (divert rule); remove question 6.3. Although this is the correct approach (IMHO), this will double the size of the firewall rulebase and readers may have difficulties to follow the article. 2) The answer to question 6.3 provides the relevant section of /etc/rc.firewall and where to plug it in. 3) We could refer the reader to /etc/rc.firewall but this seems to circumvent the purpose of the article. If no one objects I'll send-pr solution 1). Martin -- Marxpitn To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Tue Dec 18 5:50:12 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6B35C37B41C for ; Tue, 18 Dec 2001 05:50:01 -0800 (PST) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) id fBIDo1O57686; Tue, 18 Dec 2001 05:50:01 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gnats) Received: from Kain.sumuk.de (Kain.sumuk.de [213.221.86.114]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5EFD137B41B for ; Tue, 18 Dec 2001 05:47:06 -0800 (PST) Received: (from vincent@localhost) by Kain.sumuk.de (8.11.6/8.11.5) id fBIDki524647; Tue, 18 Dec 2001 14:46:44 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from vincent) Message-Id: <200112181346.fBIDki524647@Kain.sumuk.de> Date: Tue, 18 Dec 2001 14:46:44 +0100 (CET) From: Martin Heinen Reply-To: Martin Heinen To: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@freebsd.org X-Send-Pr-Version: 3.113 Subject: docs/32971: [PATCH] Config chapter: reworded a sentence Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org >Number: 32971 >Category: docs >Synopsis: [PATCH] Config chapter: reworded a sentence >Confidential: no >Severity: non-critical >Priority: low >Responsible: freebsd-doc >State: open >Quarter: >Keywords: >Date-Required: >Class: doc-bug >Submitter-Id: current-users >Arrival-Date: Tue Dec 18 05:50:01 PST 2001 >Closed-Date: >Last-Modified: >Originator: Martin Heinen >Release: FreeBSD 4.4-STABLE i386 >Organization: >Environment: System: FreeBSD Kain.sumuk.de 4.4-STABLE FreeBSD 4.4-STABLE #0: Sun Dec 9 17:28:00 CET 2001 root@Kain.sumuk.de:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/KAIN i386 >Description: The handbook should state what can be quickly seen. In fact, I looked twice to note the difference :) >How-To-Repeat: read the config chapter >Fix: Index: chapter.sgml =================================================================== RCS file: /u/cvs/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/config/chapter.sgml,v retrieving revision 1.29 diff -u -r1.29 chapter.sgml --- chapter.sgml 8 Dec 2001 05:55:10 -0000 1.29 +++ chapter.sgml 18 Dec 2001 13:02:06 -0000 @@ -330,7 +330,7 @@ -rw-r--r-- 1 root wheel 7980 May 20 1998 srm.conf -rw-r--r-- 1 root wheel 7933 May 20 1998 srm.conf.default - It can be quickly seen that only the srm.conf + The size information shows that only the srm.conf file has been changed. A later update of the apache port would not overwrite this changed file. >Release-Note: >Audit-Trail: >Unformatted: To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Tue Dec 18 6:20: 5 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 175DF37B416 for ; Tue, 18 Dec 2001 06:20:02 -0800 (PST) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) id fBIEK2265057; Tue, 18 Dec 2001 06:20:02 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gnats) Date: Tue, 18 Dec 2001 06:20:02 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <200112181420.fBIEK2265057@freefall.freebsd.org> To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Cc: From: Ceri Davies Subject: Re: docs/32373: Bad ifconfig(8) alias advice in FAQ 10.9 Reply-To: Ceri Davies Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org The following reply was made to PR docs/32373; it has been noted by GNATS. From: Ceri Davies To: freebsd-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.org Cc: Subject: Re: docs/32373: Bad ifconfig(8) alias advice in FAQ 10.9 Date: Tue, 18 Dec 2001 14:19:29 +0000 Here you go then: --- doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/faq/book.sgml.orig Thu Dec 13 13:49:57 2001 +++ doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/faq/book.sgml Tue Dec 18 14:17:06 2001 @@ -8926,13 +8926,18 @@ - How can I setup Ethernet aliases? + How can I set up Ethernet aliases? - Add netmask 0xffffffff to your - &man.ifconfig.8; command-line like the following: + If the alias is on the same subnet as an address already configured on + the interface, then add netmask 0xffffffff to your + &man.ifconfig.8; command-line, as in the following: - &prompt.root; ifconfig ed0 alias 204.141.95.2 netmask 0xffffffff + &prompt.root; ifconfig ed0 alias 10.20.30.40 netmask 0xffffffff + + Otherwise, just specify the network address and netmask as usual: + + &prompt.root; ifconfig ed0 alias 172.16.141.5 netmask 0xffffff00 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Tue Dec 18 6:27:18 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mta07-svc.ntlworld.com (mta07-svc.ntlworld.com [62.253.162.47]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AD76237B41B for ; Tue, 18 Dec 2001 06:27:15 -0800 (PST) Received: from sobek.lan ([62.252.8.57]) by mta07-svc.ntlworld.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.23 201-229-121-123-20010418) with ESMTP id <20011218142714.BHID10846.mta07-svc.ntlworld.com@sobek.lan>; Tue, 18 Dec 2001 14:27:14 +0000 Received: (from greid@localhost) by sobek.lan (8.11.5/8.11.5) id fBIERDk37369; Tue, 18 Dec 2001 14:27:13 GMT (envelope-from greid@FreeBSD.org) X-Authentication-Warning: sobek.lan: greid set sender to greid@FreeBSD.org using -f Date: Tue, 18 Dec 2001 14:27:13 +0000 From: George Reid To: Hiten Pandya Cc: doc@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: [SUGGESTION] - A linuxdoc section Message-ID: <20011218142713.A37331@FreeBSD.org> References: <20011218065002.79536.qmail@web21102.mail.yahoo.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <20011218065002.79536.qmail@web21102.mail.yahoo.com>; from hitmaster2k@yahoo.com on Mon, Dec 17, 2001 at 10:50:02PM -0800 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Mon, Dec 17, 2001 at 10:50:02PM -0800, Hiten Pandya wrote: > Some documents on the linuxdoc project can also be > used > for FreeBSD related things example: > > PPP-HowTO > Networking-HowTO > SGML-Emacs HowTO > Practical-PostgreSQL HowTO No. If there's a deficiency in our own documentation, that's what should be addressed instead. Linux documentation may be relevant to FreeBSD some of the time but it will invariably contain instructions that don't apply to FreeBSD and will serve only to confuse users. -- George C A Reid Tel: (08701) 200870 Ext. 26654 FreeBSD Committer/Developer greid@FreeBSD.org Oriel College, Oxford University george.reid@oriel.ox.ac.uk To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Tue Dec 18 6:38:54 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from blackhelicopters.org (geburah.blackhelicopters.org [209.69.178.18]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D2CE037B41A; Tue, 18 Dec 2001 06:38:50 -0800 (PST) Received: (from mwlucas@localhost) by blackhelicopters.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) id fBIEcot80250; Tue, 18 Dec 2001 09:38:50 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from mwlucas) Date: Tue, 18 Dec 2001 09:38:50 -0500 From: Michael Lucas To: George Reid Cc: Hiten Pandya , doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: [SUGGESTION] - A linuxdoc section Message-ID: <20011218093850.B80185@blackhelicopters.org> References: <20011218065002.79536.qmail@web21102.mail.yahoo.com> <20011218142713.A37331@FreeBSD.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <20011218142713.A37331@FreeBSD.org>; from greid@FreeBSD.ORG on Tue, Dec 18, 2001 at 02:27:13PM +0000 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Also, some of these are not even relevant FreeBSD. For example, I use the Practical PostgreSQL HOWTO all the time. But PostgreSQL is not part of FreeBSD. It's not part of Linux, either, it's just a program that runs on top of FreeBSD. We cannot absorb the support load of supporting every program that runs on FreeBSD. A document on "Tweaking PostgreSQL for FreeBSD" would be relevant, and we would want to absorb that or link to it. On Tue, Dec 18, 2001 at 02:27:13PM +0000, George Reid wrote: > On Mon, Dec 17, 2001 at 10:50:02PM -0800, Hiten Pandya wrote: > > > Some documents on the linuxdoc project can also be > > used > > for FreeBSD related things example: > > > > PPP-HowTO > > Networking-HowTO > > SGML-Emacs HowTO > > Practical-PostgreSQL HowTO > > No. If there's a deficiency in our own documentation, that's what should > be addressed instead. Linux documentation may be relevant to FreeBSD some > of the time but it will invariably contain instructions that don't apply > to FreeBSD and will serve only to confuse users. > > -- > George C A Reid Tel: (08701) 200870 Ext. 26654 > FreeBSD Committer/Developer greid@FreeBSD.org > Oriel College, Oxford University george.reid@oriel.ox.ac.uk > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message -- Michael Lucas mwlucas@FreeBSD.org, mwlucas@BlackHelicopters.org my FreeBSD column: http://www.oreillynet.com/pub/q/Big_Scary_Daemons http://www.blackhelicopters.org/~mwlucas/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Tue Dec 18 9:10: 8 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 45D2137B41E for ; Tue, 18 Dec 2001 09:10:03 -0800 (PST) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) id fBIHA3d24676; Tue, 18 Dec 2001 09:10:03 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gnats) Date: Tue, 18 Dec 2001 09:10:03 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <200112181710.fBIHA3d24676@freefall.freebsd.org> To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Cc: From: Ruslan Ermilov Subject: Re: docs/32941: Minor grammatical fixes for intro.4 Reply-To: Ruslan Ermilov Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org The following reply was made to PR docs/32941; it has been noted by GNATS. From: Ruslan Ermilov To: Ceri Cc: bug-followup@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: docs/32941: Minor grammatical fixes for intro.4 Date: Tue, 18 Dec 2001 19:09:28 +0200 On Mon, Dec 17, 2001 at 06:04:08PM +0000, Ceri wrote: > > intro.4 could benefit from a couple of minor gramamatical fixups and spelling > errors (well, behaviour is the British way, but I think manpages should be in > American ?) > > -where a device driver emulates the behaviour of a device in software > +where a device driver emulates the behavior of a device in software Both are acceptable. > -on a terminal devices is likely to be not useful at all. > +on terminal devices is not likely to be useful. The "is likely to be not useful" -> "is not likely to be useful" change while mathematically equivalent, changes the accent, which IMO is important here. 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Buy at http://shopping.yahoo.com or bid at http://auctions.yahoo.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Tue Dec 18 10:50:11 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 74A4F37B41A for ; Tue, 18 Dec 2001 10:50:01 -0800 (PST) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) id fBIIo1039528; Tue, 18 Dec 2001 10:50:01 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gnats) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2C0F337B405 for ; Tue, 18 Dec 2001 10:44:51 -0800 (PST) Received: (from nobody@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) id fBIIip538864; Tue, 18 Dec 2001 10:44:51 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from nobody) Message-Id: <200112181844.fBIIip538864@freefall.freebsd.org> Date: Tue, 18 Dec 2001 10:44:51 -0800 (PST) From: Michel Oosterhof To: freebsd-gnats-submit@freebsd.org X-Send-Pr-Version: www-1.0 Subject: docs/32979: manpages are not installed for k5admin and k5admind Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org >Number: 32979 >Category: docs >Synopsis: manpages are not installed for k5admin and k5admind >Confidential: no >Severity: non-critical >Priority: low >Responsible: freebsd-doc >State: open >Quarter: >Keywords: >Date-Required: >Class: doc-bug >Submitter-Id: current-users >Arrival-Date: Tue Dec 18 10:50:01 PST 2001 >Closed-Date: >Last-Modified: >Originator: Michel Oosterhof >Release: 4.4-STABLE >Organization: >Environment: FreeBSD router 4.4-STABLE FreeBSD 4.4-STABLE #1: Sun Dec 2 14:17:46 CET 2001 root@router:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/ROUTER i386 >Description: Manpages are available for k5admin & k5admind in /usr/src/crypto/heimdal, but they are not installed. >How-To-Repeat: n/a >Fix: Install k5admin.5 and k5admind.8 from /usr/src/kerberos5/usr.bin/k5admin and /usr/src/kerberos5/usr.sbin/k5admind. This can be done analogous to the other tools that do have manpages, k5init, k5destroy, k5list,etc. >Release-Note: >Audit-Trail: >Unformatted: To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Tue Dec 18 10:51:57 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from pittgoth.com (14.zlnp1.xdsl.nauticom.net [209.195.149.111]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D76E637B416 for ; Tue, 18 Dec 2001 10:51:54 -0800 (PST) Received: from oemcomputer (lcl234.zbzoom.net [208.236.36.234]) by pittgoth.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id fBIIqRD73539 for ; Tue, 18 Dec 2001 13:52:27 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from darklogik@pittgoth.com) From: darklogik@pittgoth.com To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Date: Tue, 18 Dec 2001 13:58:10 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: Link not working Message-ID: <3C1F4B72.26940.43BA9C0@localhost> X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v3.12c) Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Link for the FreeBSD advocacy project link on page: http://www.freebsd.org/projects/projects.html Does not let me connect, I tried today and yesterday... who should be contacted about this issue? Tom Rhodes http://www.pittgoth.com Dark Portal Project http://www.FreeBSD.org FreeBSD Project To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Tue Dec 18 11:55:46 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from tally.qx.net (darkstar.qx.net [208.235.88.101]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F354F37B41E for ; Tue, 18 Dec 2001 11:55:41 -0800 (PST) Received: from smtp.qx.net (lightning.qx.net [208.235.88.22]) by tally.qx.net (8.11.0/8.11.0) with SMTP id fBIJtev30677 for ; Tue, 18 Dec 2001 14:55:40 -0500 Message-Id: <200112181955.fBIJtev30677@tally.qx.net> X-Priority: Sensitivity: Company-Confidential From: To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Subject: subscribe Date: Tue, 18 Dec 2001 14:49:50 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org subscribe To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Tue Dec 18 12: 3:32 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from blueyonder.co.uk (pcow034o.blueyonder.co.uk [195.188.53.122]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8575637B416 for ; Tue, 18 Dec 2001 12:03:30 -0800 (PST) Received: from pcow034o.blueyonder.co.uk ([127.0.0.1]) by blueyonder.co.uk with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.757.75); Tue, 18 Dec 2001 20:03:26 +0000 Received: from fluoxetine.lan (unverified) by pcow034o.blueyonder.co.uk (Content Technologies SMTPRS 4.2.5) with ESMTP id ; Tue, 18 Dec 2001 20:03:26 +0000 Date: Tue, 18 Dec 2001 20:06:14 +0000 (GMT) From: Andrew McKay X-Sender: andy@fluoxetine.lan To: darklogik@pittgoth.com Cc: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Link not working In-Reply-To: <3C1F4B72.26940.43BA9C0@localhost> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Tue, 18 Dec 2001 darklogik@pittgoth.com wrote: TR> Link for the FreeBSD advocacy project link on page: TR> TR> http://www.freebsd.org/projects/projects.html TR> TR> Does not let me connect, I tried today and yesterday... who TR> should be contacted about this issue? Agreed. Two independent witnesses. This is now fact :) Try tracking down the administrator of the domain and see if they are aware of a problem. Their www.* seems to be down as well as the freebsd.* variant (which are hosted on different IPs). They should be able to tell you whether this is permanent or temporary. Andy -- Andrew McKay To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Tue Dec 18 12:40:52 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from pittgoth.com (14.zlnp1.xdsl.nauticom.net [209.195.149.111]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EBA7637B417 for ; Tue, 18 Dec 2001 12:40:48 -0800 (PST) Received: from oemcomputer (lcl234.zbzoom.net [208.236.36.234]) by pittgoth.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id fBIKfJD73966; Tue, 18 Dec 2001 15:41:19 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from darklogik@pittgoth.com) From: darklogik@pittgoth.com To: Andrew McKay Date: Tue, 18 Dec 2001 15:47:03 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: Re: Link not working Cc: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Message-ID: <3C1F64F7.7608.49F5985@localhost> References: <3C1F4B72.26940.43BA9C0@localhost> In-reply-to: X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v3.12c) Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Tom Rhodes did: After reporting the link on here, I checked up at www.netsol.com and used the whois tool. All the domains: cadabra.com tesserae.com are down. I made an attempt to get in contact with Donald, the administration contact listed on the site, and obtained no answer at that number. Afterwords, I called Neil, the technical contact, and got an answering machine. I'm at a loss of suggestions, should I work at trying to get ahold of anyone, or just the advocacy project be passed to someone else who would gladly continue to maintain it until such a time the orginial maintainer could either continue work on it, or leave it passed (I'll do it if anyone wants to hear my bid of taking control of the project lol) Either way, I need opinions... Tom Rhodes Andrew said: Agreed. Two independent witnesses. This is now fact :) Try tracking down the administrator of the domain and see if they are aware of a problem. Their www.* seems to be down as well as the freebsd.* variant (which are hosted on different IPs). They should be able to tell you whether this is permanent or temporary. Andy -- Andrew McKay To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Tue Dec 18 13:58:36 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from yuha.menta.net (yuha.menta.net [212.78.128.42]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 496E237B41A for ; Tue, 18 Dec 2001 13:56:53 -0800 (PST) Received: from gibson.menta.net ([212.78.128.22]) by yuha.menta.net (Netscape Messaging Server 4.15) with ESMTP id GOK7QM01.1LU for ; Tue, 18 Dec 2001 22:59:10 +0100 Received: from mta.onebox.com ([62.57.66.175]) by gibson.menta.net (Netscape Messaging Server 4.15) with SMTP id GOK7FZ00.TO5; Tue, 18 Dec 2001 22:52:47 +0100 Reply-To: From: "prohireteam@onebox.com" To: "9955@aol.com" <9955@aol.com> Message-ID: <1008712608.0908665212@mta.onebox.com> Subject: RESUMES ************ MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Date: Tue, 18 Dec 2001 22:59:10 +0100 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org <=21DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC =22-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN=22> Prohire

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ОИПО Арзамасмежрайгаз mailto:amrgoipo@mts-nn.ru To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Wed Dec 19 7:59:49 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mail.mts-nn.ru (mail.mts-nn.ru [213.24.90.9]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7EA4937B419 for ; Wed, 19 Dec 2001 07:59:45 -0800 (PST) Received: from cs4-mts-178.dialup.mts-nn.ru (cs4-mts-178.dialup.mts-nn.ru [217.106.140.178]) by mail.mts-nn.ru (8.12.1/8.12.1) with ESMTP id fBJFxlM0028538 for ; Wed, 19 Dec 2001 18:59:48 +0300 Date: Wed, 19 Dec 2001 18:59:42 +0300 From: =?koi8-r?B?6cfOwdTYxdcg4S7tLg==?= X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.53 Beta/1) Reply-To: =?koi8-r?B?6cfOwdTYxdcg4S7tLg==?= Organization: =?koi8-r?B?4dLawc3B083F1tLBysfB2g==?= X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <898074792.20011219185942@mts-nn.ru> To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=koi8-r Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Здравствуйте freebsd-doc, Добрый день, ???ix, Купил диск CD "FreeBSD" со ссылками на вАш E-mail. На нём ничего по РУССКИ!!! Не ужели нельзя было в этот CD включить информацию по установке этой программы на РУССКОМ? Не говоря уже о руссифицированной документации по FreeBSD. Ведь документации на РУССКОМ в Интернете полно!!! До каких пор вЫ прграмеры, будете заставлять ПОЛЬЗОВАТЕЛЕЙ изучать english? Почему немцы, французы и т.д. и прочая шваль, могут со всеми программами работать на своем языке, кроме РУССКИХ!!!? Мне не понятен вАШ СНОБИЗИМ! Либо это от вашего недопонимания , либо вы ДРЯНЬ! --С УВАЖЕНИЕМ, Арзамасмежрайгаз mailto:arzammrg@mts-nn.ry -- С УВАЖЕНИЕМ, Игнатьев А.М. ОИПО Арзамасмежрайгаз mailto:amrgoipo@mts-nn.ru To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Wed Dec 19 8:47: 5 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3002837B417; Wed, 19 Dec 2001 08:46:59 -0800 (PST) Received: (from ru@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) id fBJGktc18830; Wed, 19 Dec 2001 08:46:55 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from ru) Date: Wed, 19 Dec 2001 08:46:55 -0800 (PST) From: Message-Id: <200112191646.fBJGktc18830@freefall.freebsd.org> To: ru@FreeBSD.org, ru@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-doc@freebsd.org, assar@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: docs/32979: manpages are not installed for k5admin and k5admind Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Synopsis: manpages are not installed for k5admin and k5admind Responsible-Changed-From-To: freebsd-doc->assar Responsible-Changed-By: ru Responsible-Changed-When: Wed Dec 19 08:46:38 PST 2001 Responsible-Changed-Why: Assar, could you please look into this? http://www.FreeBSD.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=32979 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Wed Dec 19 9:24: 2 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from tao.org.uk (genius.tao.org.uk [212.135.162.51]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7F76637B416; Wed, 19 Dec 2001 09:23:58 -0800 (PST) Received: by tao.org.uk (Postfix, from userid 100) id 0E264141; Wed, 19 Dec 2001 17:23:50 +0000 (GMT) Date: Wed, 19 Dec 2001 17:23:50 +0000 From: Josef Karthauser To: Hiten Pandya Cc: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org, joe@freebsd.org, murray@freebsd.org Subject: Re: docs/32697 (new article) Message-ID: <20011219172350.E8037@tao.org.uk> References: <20011211190820.84682.qmail@web21105.mail.yahoo.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-md5; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="ep0oHQY+/Gbo/zt0" Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <20011211190820.84682.qmail@web21105.mail.yahoo.com>; from hitmaster2k@yahoo.com on Tue, Dec 11, 2001 at 11:08:20AM -0800 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org --ep0oHQY+/Gbo/zt0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Tue, Dec 11, 2001 at 11:08:20AM -0800, Hiten Pandya wrote: > hello, >=20 > i have filed a PR in about an article i have > converted to DocBook. >=20 > Title: The Release Engineering Process of FreeBSD 4.4 >=20 > The article has been reviewed by the Author himself > (Murray Stokely), all it needs if commiting.. >=20 > thank you, >=20 > PR Number is: 32697 Hi Murray, Are you going to get a chance to commit this? I'll do it if not, but where should it go? [Also can you confirm that you're happy with its content?] Thanks Joe --ep0oHQY+/Gbo/zt0 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (FreeBSD) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iEYEARECAAYFAjwgzSUACgkQXVIcjOaxUBYS1gCeKeG0luIhWoYB1gdsrPMW0T/i TosAn059fhQAyvR3pUoOFBDAHIN78ru/ =Jyjm -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --ep0oHQY+/Gbo/zt0-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Wed Dec 19 10:18:13 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from straylight.ringlet.net (sentinel.office1.bg [217.75.134.126]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 2DB6737B405 for ; Wed, 19 Dec 2001 10:18:05 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 16804 invoked by uid 1000); 19 Dec 2001 18:17:02 -0000 Date: Wed, 19 Dec 2001 20:17:02 +0200 From: Peter Pentchev To: doc@FreeBSD.org Subject: jade: non SGML character number 255 Message-ID: <20011219201702.I1032@straylight.oblivion.bg> Mail-Followup-To: doc@FreeBSD.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi, I am trying to pull together a Bulgarian FreeBSD doc project.. or at least, that's what I like to think :) In fact, I am still learning the basics of DocBook :) While trying to write an article in Bulgarian, using the windows-1251 charset, I stumbled upon the fact that jade does not like characters with a code of 255. This might be a problem, because 255 is the code of the lowercase 'ja' vowel, which is actually used quite often. Is there a way to make jade swallow it, or do I have to give up right from the start? :) G'luck, Peter -- This sentence is false. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Wed Dec 19 13:40:39 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 142E037B416 for ; Wed, 19 Dec 2001 13:40:01 -0800 (PST) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) id fBJLe1384625; Wed, 19 Dec 2001 13:40:01 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gnats) Received: from relay3-gui.server.ntli.net (relay3-gui.server.ntli.net [194.168.4.200]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 11E4D37B416 for ; Wed, 19 Dec 2001 13:31:12 -0800 (PST) Received: from pc3-card4-0-cust122.cdf.cable.ntl.com ([62.254.251.122] helo=rhadamanth.private.submonkey.net ident=exim) by relay3-gui.server.ntli.net with esmtp (Exim 3.03 #2) id 16GoIu-000645-00 for FreeBSD-gnats-submit@freebsd.org; Wed, 19 Dec 2001 21:31:08 +0000 Received: from setantae by rhadamanth.private.submonkey.net with local (Exim 3.33 #1) id 16GoEa-0001sh-00 for FreeBSD-gnats-submit@freebsd.org; Wed, 19 Dec 2001 21:26:40 +0000 Message-Id: Date: Wed, 19 Dec 2001 21:26:40 +0000 From: Ceri Reply-To: Ceri To: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@freebsd.org X-Send-Pr-Version: 3.113 Subject: docs/33017: Updates to config section of Handbook + plus whitespace patch Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org >Number: 33017 >Category: docs >Synopsis: Updates to config section of Handbook + plus whitespace patch >Confidential: no >Severity: non-critical >Priority: medium >Responsible: freebsd-doc >State: open >Quarter: >Keywords: >Date-Required: >Class: doc-bug >Submitter-Id: current-users >Arrival-Date: Wed Dec 19 13:40:00 PST 2001 >Closed-Date: >Last-Modified: >Originator: Ceri >Release: FreeBSD 4.4-STABLE i386 >Organization: >Environment: System: FreeBSD rhadamanth.private.submonkey.net 4.4-STABLE FreeBSD 4.4-STABLE #0: Wed Dec 5 00:48:29 GMT 2001 root@rhadamanth.private.submonkey.net:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/RHADAMANTH i386 Today's doc tree. >Description: The config section of the Handbook is now out of date regarding vfs.vmiodirenable. Also, MAXUSERS is now magic. And fix some typos and whitespace while I'm at it. Ceri >How-To-Repeat: Read it >Fix: Patch #1 to fix stuff : *** doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/config/chapter.sgml.old Wed Dec 19 20:42:48 2001 --- doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/config/chapter.sgml Wed Dec 19 21:06:29 2001 *************** *** 123,129 **** The size of your /var partition reflects the intended use of your machine. ! /var is primarily used to hold: mailboxes, print spool and log files. Mailboxes and log files, in particular, can grow to unexpected sizes based upon how many users are on your system and how long your log files --- 123,129 ---- The size of your /var partition reflects the intended use of your machine. ! /var is primarily used to hold mailboxes, print spool and log files. Mailboxes and log files, in particular, can grow to unexpected sizes based upon how many users are on your system and how long your log files *************** *** 225,231 **** that shifting them more towards the edge of the disk will not lead to a significant performance improvement whereas moving /var to the edge can have a huge impact. ! Finally, there are safety concerns. Having a small neat root partition that is essentially read-only gives it a greater chance of surviving a bad crash intact. --- 225,231 ---- that shifting them more towards the edge of the disk will not lead to a significant performance improvement whereas moving /var to the edge can have a huge impact. ! Finally, there are safety concerns. Having a small, neat root partition that is essentially read-only gives it a greater chance of surviving a bad crash intact. *************** *** 282,288 **** The rc.conf.site file can then be ! distributed to every system using rsync or similar program, whilst the rc.conf file remains unique. --- 282,288 ---- The rc.conf.site file can then be ! distributed to every system using rsync or a similar program, whilst the rc.conf file remains unique. *************** *** 579,584 **** --- 579,587 ---- nameserver 147.11.1.11 nameserver 147.11.100.30 + Only one of the search and + domain options should be used. + If you are using DHCP, &man.dhclient.8; usually rewrites resolv.conf with information received from the DHCP server. *************** *** 598,604 **** a local record of Internet names, reducing the need to query externally for commonly accessed names. ! # $FreeBSD$ # # Host Database # This file should contain the addresses and aliases --- 601,607 ---- a local record of Internet names, reducing the need to query externally for commonly accessed names. ! # $FreeBSD$ # # Host Database # This file should contain the addresses and aliases *************** *** 699,706 **** newsyslog.conf newsyslog.conf is the configuration ! file for &man.newsyslog.8;, a program that is scheduled to run ! normally by &man.cron.8;. &man.newsyslog.8; determines when log files require archiving or rearranging. logfile is moved to logfile.0, logfile.0 --- 702,709 ---- newsyslog.conf newsyslog.conf is the configuration ! file for &man.newsyslog.8;, a program that is normally scheduled ! to run by &man.cron.8;. &man.newsyslog.8; determines when log files require archiving or rearranging. logfile is moved to logfile.0, logfile.0 *************** *** 797,804 **** kern.maxfiles: 2088 -> 5000 Settings of sysctl variables are usually either strings, ! numbers, or booleans. A boolean being 1 for yes ! or a 0 for no. --- 800,807 ---- kern.maxfiles: 2088 -> 5000 Settings of sysctl variables are usually either strings, ! numbers, or booleans (a boolean being 1 for yes ! or a 0 for no). *************** *** 815,821 **** The vfs.vmiodirenable sysctl variable ! defaults to 0 (off) (though soon it will default to 1) and may be set to 0 (off) or 1 (on). This parameter controls how directories are cached by the system. Most directories are small and use but a single fragment (typically 1K) in the --- 818,824 ---- The vfs.vmiodirenable sysctl variable ! defaults to 1 (on) and may be set to 0 (off) or 1 (on). This parameter controls how directories are cached by the system. Most directories are small and use but a single fragment (typically 1K) in the *************** *** 884,889 **** --- 887,896 ---- it is mounted. A good time to enable Soft Updates is before any partitions have been mounted, in single-user mode. + As of FreeBSD 4.5, it is possible to enable Soft Updates + at filesystem creation time, through use of the -U + option to &man.newfs.8;. + Soft Updates drastically improves meta-data performance, mainly file creation and deletion, through the use of a memory cache. We recommend turning Soft Updates on on all of your filesystems. There *************** *** 928,948 **** kind and number of services running concurrently. kern.maxfile's default value is ! dictated by the option in your kernel configuration file. kern.maxfiles grows ! proportionally to the value of . When compiling a custom kernel, it is a good idea to set this kernel configuration option according to the uses of your system. From this number, the kernel is given most of its pre-defined limits. Even though a production machine may not actually have 256 users connected as once, the resources needed may be similar to a high-scale webserver. Network Limits ! The NMBCLUSTERS kernel configuration option dictates the amount of network mbufs available to the system. A heavily-trafficked server with a low number of MBUFs will hinder FreeBSD's ability. Each cluster represents --- 935,961 ---- kind and number of services running concurrently. kern.maxfile's default value is ! dictated by the option in your kernel configuration file. kern.maxfiles grows ! proportionally to the value of . When compiling a custom kernel, it is a good idea to set this kernel configuration option according to the uses of your system. From this number, the kernel is given most of its pre-defined limits. Even though a production machine may not actually have 256 users connected as once, the resources needed may be similar to a high-scale webserver. + + As of FreeBSD 4.5, setting to + 0 in your kernel configuration file will choose + a reasonable default value based on the amount of RAM present in + your system. + Network Limits ! The kernel configuration option dictates the amount of network mbufs available to the system. A heavily-trafficked server with a low number of MBUFs will hinder FreeBSD's ability. Each cluster represents Patch #2 for whitespace : *** doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/config/chapter.sgml.old Wed Dec 19 21:09:48 2001 --- doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/config/chapter.sgml Wed Dec 19 21:20:03 2001 *************** *** 42,49 **** administrative configuration of FreeBSD systems. This chapter will also describe some of the parameters that ! can be set to tune a FreeBSD system for optimum ! performance. After reading this chapter, you will know: --- 42,48 ---- administrative configuration of FreeBSD systems. This chapter will also describe some of the parameters that ! can be set to tune a FreeBSD system for optimum performance. After reading this chapter, you will know: *************** *** 82,90 **** Be familiar with keeping FreeBSD sources up to date ! (), and ! the basics of kernel configuration/compilation ! (). --- 81,88 ---- Be familiar with keeping FreeBSD sources up to date ! (), and the basics of kernel ! configuration/compilation (). *************** *** 116,124 **** smaller, heavily-accessed filesystems, such as root and swap, closer to the outside of the drive, while placing larger partitions, such as /usr, towards the ! inner. To do so, it is ! a good idea to create partitions in a similar order: root, ! swap, /var, /usr. The size of your /var partition --- 114,121 ---- smaller, heavily-accessed filesystems, such as root and swap, closer to the outside of the drive, while placing larger partitions, such as /usr, towards the ! inner. To do so, it is a good idea to create partitions in ! a similar order: root, swap, /var, /usr. The size of your /var partition *************** *** 135,153 **** The /usr partition holds the bulk of the files required to support the system and a ! subdirectory within it called ! /usr/local holds the bulk of the files ! installed from the &man.ports.7; hierarchy. If you do not ! use ports all that much and do not intend to keep system ! source (/usr/src) on the machine, ! you can get away with a 1 ! gigabyte /usr partition. However, ! if you install a lot of ! ports (especially window managers and Linux binaries), we ! recommend at least a two gigabyte /usr ! and if you also ! intend to keep system source on the machine, we recommend a ! three gigabyte /usr. Do not underestimate the amount of space you will need in this partition, it can creep up and surprise you! --- 132,147 ---- The /usr partition holds the bulk of the files required to support the system and a ! subdirectory within it called /usr/local ! holds the bulk of the files installed from the &man.ports.7; ! hierarchy. If you do not use ports all that much and do not ! intend to keep system source (/usr/src) ! on the machine, you can get away with a 1 gigabyte ! /usr partition. However, if you install ! a lot of ports (especially window managers and Linux binaries), ! we recommend at least a two gigabyte /usr ! and if you also intend to keep system source on the machine, ! we recommend a three gigabyte /usr. Do not underestimate the amount of space you will need in this partition, it can creep up and surprise you! *************** *** 157,166 **** frustration. Some users who have used &man.sysinstall.8;'s ! Auto-defaults partition sizer have found ! either their root or /var partitions too ! small later on. Partition wisely and ! generously. --- 151,159 ---- frustration. Some users who have used &man.sysinstall.8;'s ! Auto-defaults partition sizer have found ! either their root or /var partitions too ! small later on. Partition wisely and generously. *************** *** 271,284 **** rc.conf: ! . rc.conf.site ! hostname="node15.example.com" ! network_interfaces="fxp0 lo0" ! ifconfig_fxp0="inet 10.1.1.1" rc.conf.site: ! defaultrouter="10.1.1.254" ! saver="daemon" ! blanktime="100" The rc.conf.site file can then be --- 264,277 ---- rc.conf: ! . rc.conf.site ! hostname="node15.example.com" ! network_interfaces="fxp0 lo0" ! ifconfig_fxp0="inet 10.1.1.1" rc.conf.site: ! defaultrouter="10.1.1.254" ! saver="daemon" ! blanktime="100" The rc.conf.site file can then be *************** *** 288,295 **** Upgrading the system using &man.sysinstall.8; or make world will not overwrite the ! rc.conf ! file, so system configuration information will not be lost. --- 281,288 ---- Upgrading the system using &man.sysinstall.8; or make world will not overwrite the ! rc.conf file, so system configuration ! information will not be lost. *************** *** 312,320 **** Normally, when a port or package is installed, sample configuration files are also installed. These are usually identified with a .default suffix. If there ! are no existing ! configuration files for the application, they will be created by ! copying the .default files. For example, consider the contents of the directory /usr/local/etc/apache: --- 305,312 ---- Normally, when a port or package is installed, sample configuration files are also installed. These are usually identified with a .default suffix. If there ! are no existing configuration files for the application, ! they will be created by copying the .default files. For example, consider the contents of the directory /usr/local/etc/apache: *************** *** 352,364 **** /usr/local/etc/rc.d which is invoked at system startup with a argument, and at system shutdown with a argument. ! This is the recommended way for ! starting system-wide services that are to be run as ! root, or that expect to be started as root. ! These scripts are registered as ! part of the installation of the package, and will be removed ! when the package is removed. A generic startup script in /usr/local/etc/rc.d looks like: --- 344,354 ---- /usr/local/etc/rc.d which is invoked at system startup with a argument, and at system shutdown with a argument. ! This is the recommended way for starting system-wide services ! that are to be run as root, or that expect to be started as root. ! These scripts are registered as part of the installation of the ! package, and will be removed when the package is removed. A generic startup script in /usr/local/etc/rc.d looks like: *************** *** 379,386 **** ;; esac ! exit 0 ! This script is called with at startup, and the at shutdown to allow --- 369,375 ---- ;; esac ! exit 0 This script is called with at startup, and the at shutdown to allow *************** *** 405,412 **** Do not place any commands in /etc/rc.conf. To start daemons, or run any commands at boot time, place a script in ! /usr/local/etc/rc.d instead. ! It is also possible to use the &man.cron.8; daemon to start system services. This approach has a number of advantages, not --- 394,400 ---- Do not place any commands in /etc/rc.conf. To start daemons, or run any commands at boot time, place a script in ! /usr/local/etc/rc.d instead. It is also possible to use the &man.cron.8; daemon to start system services. This approach has a number of advantages, not *************** *** 416,424 **** This takes advantage of a feature of &man.cron.8;: the time specification may be replaced by @reboot, ! which will ! cause the job to be run when &man.cron.8; is started shortly after ! system boot. --- 404,411 ---- This takes advantage of a feature of &man.cron.8;: the time specification may be replaced by @reboot, ! which will cause the job to be run when &man.cron.8; is started ! shortly after system boot. *************** *** 434,441 **** A given network interface has one real address, and may have any number of alias addresses. ! These aliases are ! normally added by placing alias entries in /etc/rc.conf. An alias entry for the interface fxp0 --- 421,427 ---- A given network interface has one real address, and may have any number of alias addresses. ! These aliases are normally added by placing alias entries in /etc/rc.conf. An alias entry for the interface fxp0 *************** *** 445,452 **** Note that alias entries must start with alias0 and proceed upwards in order, (for example, _alias1, _alias2, and so on). ! The configuration process will stop at the first missing number. ! The calculation of alias netmasks is important, but fortunately quite simple. For a given interface, there must be --- 431,437 ---- Note that alias entries must start with alias0 and proceed upwards in order, (for example, _alias1, _alias2, and so on). ! The configuration process will stop at the first missing number. The calculation of alias netmasks is important, but fortunately quite simple. For a given interface, there must be *************** *** 464,478 **** The following entries configure the adapter correctly for this arrangement: ! ifconfig_fxp0="inet 10.1.1.1 netmask 255.255.255.0" ! ifconfig_fxp0_alias0="inet 10.1.1.2 netmask 255.255.255.255" ! ifconfig_fxp0_alias1="inet 10.1.1.3 netmask 255.255.255.255" ! ifconfig_fxp0_alias2="inet 10.1.1.4 netmask 255.255.255.255" ! ifconfig_fxp0_alias3="inet 10.1.1.5 netmask 255.255.255.255" ! ifconfig_fxp0_alias4="inet 202.0.75.17 netmask 255.255.255.240" ! ifconfig_fxp0_alias5="inet 202.0.75.18 netmask 255.255.255.255" ! ifconfig_fxp0_alias6="inet 202.0.75.19 netmask 255.255.255.255" ! ifconfig_fxp0_alias7="inet 202.0.75.20 netmask 255.255.255.255" --- 449,463 ---- The following entries configure the adapter correctly for this arrangement: ! ifconfig_fxp0="inet 10.1.1.1 netmask 255.255.255.0" ! ifconfig_fxp0_alias0="inet 10.1.1.2 netmask 255.255.255.255" ! ifconfig_fxp0_alias1="inet 10.1.1.3 netmask 255.255.255.255" ! ifconfig_fxp0_alias2="inet 10.1.1.4 netmask 255.255.255.255" ! ifconfig_fxp0_alias3="inet 10.1.1.5 netmask 255.255.255.255" ! ifconfig_fxp0_alias4="inet 202.0.75.17 netmask 255.255.255.240" ! ifconfig_fxp0_alias5="inet 202.0.75.18 netmask 255.255.255.255" ! ifconfig_fxp0_alias6="inet 202.0.75.19 netmask 255.255.255.255" ! ifconfig_fxp0_alias7="inet 202.0.75.20 netmask 255.255.255.255" *************** *** 499,511 **** /etc/mail Extra &man.sendmail.8; configuration, other ! MTA configuration files. ! /etc/ppp ! Configuration for both user- and kernel-ppp programs. ! /etc/namedb --- 484,494 ---- /etc/mail Extra &man.sendmail.8; configuration, other ! MTA configuration files. /etc/ppp ! Configuration for both user- and kernel-ppp programs. /etc/namedb *************** *** 752,760 **** sysctl.conf looks much like rc.conf. Values are set in a ! variable=value ! form. The specified values are set after the system goes into ! multi-user mode. Not all variables are settable in this mode. A sample sysctl.conf turning off logging of fatal signal exits and letting Linux programs know they are really --- 735,743 ---- sysctl.conf looks much like rc.conf. Values are set in a ! variable=value form. The specified values ! are set after the system goes into multi-user mode. Not all ! variables are settable in this mode. A sample sysctl.conf turning off logging of fatal signal exits and letting Linux programs know they are really *************** *** 818,833 **** The vfs.vmiodirenable sysctl variable ! defaults to 1 (on) and may ! be set to 0 (off) or 1 (on). This parameter controls how ! directories are cached by the system. Most directories are ! small and use but a single fragment (typically 1K) in the ! filesystem and even less (typically 512 bytes) in the buffer ! cache. However, when operating in the default mode the buffer ! cache will only cache a fixed number of directories even if ! you have a huge amount of memory. Turning on this sysctl ! allows the buffer cache to use the VM Page Cache to cache the ! directories. The advantage is that all of memory is now available for caching directories. The disadvantage is that the minimum in-core memory used to cache a directory is the physical page size (typically 4K) rather than 512 bytes. We --- 801,815 ---- The vfs.vmiodirenable sysctl variable ! defaults to 1 (on) and may be set to 0 (off) or 1 (on). ! This parameter controls how directories are cached by the ! system. Most directories are small and use but a single fragment ! (typically 1K) in the filesystem and even less (typically 512 ! bytes) in the buffer cache. However, when operating in the ! default mode the buffer cache will only cache a fixed number of ! directories even if you have a huge amount of memory. Turning ! on this sysctl allows the buffer cache to use the VM Page Cache ! to cache the directories. The advantage is that all of memory is now available for caching directories. The disadvantage is that the minimum in-core memory used to cache a directory is the physical page size (typically 4K) rather than 512 bytes. We >Release-Note: >Audit-Trail: >Unformatted: To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Wed Dec 19 13:43:36 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mydomain.com (massy-3-1-2-74.dial.9tel.net [212.30.109.74]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A25CE37B416; Wed, 19 Dec 2001 13:42:54 -0800 (PST) Date: Wed, 19 Dec 2001 22:40:22 +0100 From: fabricehalimi@aol.com To: RESPONSABLE@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: LA ROLLS DES SITES POUR 650 EUROS X-Mailer: DMailer for Windows V1.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT Message-Id: <20011219214254.A25CE37B416@hub.freebsd.org> Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org BONJOUR, SI VOTRE SITE INTERNET NE VOUS DONNE PAS TOUT A FAIT SATISFACTION, - IMPOSSIBLE OU DIFFICILE A METTRE A JOUR - COUTEUX EN HEBERGEMENT - MAL REFERENCE - PAS RENTABLE - PAS DE COMMERCE EN LIGNE - PEU GRAPHIQUE OU PEU RATIONNEL - SIMPLE SITE VITRINE SANS INTELLIGENCE INFORMATIQUE - LIMITE EN NOMBRE DE PAGES ET PHOTOS - MANQUE D'AUTONOMIE OU SI VOUS SOUHAITEZ SIMPLEMENT LE FAIRE DEVELOPPER. 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Message-ID: <20011219192738.E95146@elvis.mu.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hey, I noticed that people are going all XML for docbook, should I look at that or stick with sgml? -- -Alfred Perlstein [alfred@freebsd.org] 'Instead of asking why a piece of software is using "1970s technology," start asking why software is ignoring 30 years of accumulated wisdom.' http://www.morons.org/rants/gpl-harmful.php3 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Wed Dec 19 19:25:59 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mail.olg.com (olg.com [205.177.168.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9050F37B41A for ; Wed, 19 Dec 2001 19:25:55 -0800 (PST) Received: from default (unverified [205.252.104.223]) by mail.olg.com (Rockliffe SMTPRA 4.5.6) with SMTP id for ; Wed, 19 Dec 2001 22:21:10 -0500 Message-ID: <000801c18906$5bb9d900$df68fccd@default> From: "Jay Jeffries" To: Subject: downloading the FreeBSd handbook Date: Wed, 19 Dec 2001 22:28:12 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0005_01C188DC.71A4E860" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6600 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6600 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0005_01C188DC.71A4E860 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I would like to download the FreeBSD handbook but can't find a quick way = to do it. What's the quickest way? ------=_NextPart_000_0005_01C188DC.71A4E860 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
    I would like to download the FreeBSD = handbook but=20 can't find a quick way to do it.  What's the quickest=20 way?
    ------=_NextPart_000_0005_01C188DC.71A4E860-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Wed Dec 19 23:51: 3 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from www.technobank.com.by (www.tb.by [212.98.163.83]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 181BF37B41D for ; Wed, 19 Dec 2001 23:50:59 -0800 (PST) Received: from 10.20.1.109 ([10.20.2.4]) by www.technobank.com.by (Lotus Domino Release 5.0.4) with ESMTP id 2001122009484380:205 ; Thu, 20 Dec 2001 09:48:43 +0200 Date: Thu, 20 Dec 2001 09:49:56 +0200 From: shupilov X-Mailer: The Bat! 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What's the quickest way? http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/faq/introduction.html#DOC-= FORMATS N --=20 FreeBSD: The Power to Serve http://www.freebsd.org/ FreeBSD Documentation Project http://www.freebsd.org/docproj/ --- 15B8 3FFC DDB4 34B0 AA5F 94B7 93A8 0764 2C37 E375 --- --o0ZfoUVt4BxPQnbU Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (FreeBSD) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iEYEARECAAYFAjwhrPIACgkQk6gHZCw343WWdQCfSr+TbrRJkQqNfE+sLXhqy9Nx Tq8AniJab49TdHzrYyw3A1Mlb/6kPvFn =te2m -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --o0ZfoUVt4BxPQnbU-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Thu Dec 20 3:19:56 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9AE7A37B41A; Thu, 20 Dec 2001 03:19:52 -0800 (PST) Received: (from murray@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) id fBKBHa929264; Thu, 20 Dec 2001 03:17:36 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from murray) Date: Thu, 20 Dec 2001 03:17:36 -0800 (PST) From: Message-Id: <200112201117.fBKBHa929264@freefall.freebsd.org> To: martin@sumuk.de, murray@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: docs/32971: [PATCH] Config chapter: reworded a sentence Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Synopsis: [PATCH] Config chapter: reworded a sentence State-Changed-From-To: open->closed State-Changed-By: murray State-Changed-When: Thu Dec 20 03:17:15 PST 2001 State-Changed-Why: Your patch has been committed. It may take up to 24 hours for the web site to be updated. Thanks for the submission! http://www.FreeBSD.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=32971 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Thu Dec 20 3:25:36 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mao.stokely.org (mao.stokely.org [65.84.64.228]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1F6FF37B41A; Thu, 20 Dec 2001 03:25:30 -0800 (PST) Received: by mao.stokely.org (Postfix, from userid 2074) id 5EA6C4B661; Thu, 20 Dec 2001 03:25:29 -0800 (PST) Date: Thu, 20 Dec 2001 03:25:29 -0800 From: Murray Stokely To: Alfred Perlstein Cc: doc@freebsd.org, nik@freebsd.org Subject: Re: should i be using sgml or xml? Message-ID: <20011220032529.F27392@windriver.com> References: <20011219192738.E95146@elvis.mu.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <20011219192738.E95146@elvis.mu.org>; from bright@mu.org on Wed, Dec 19, 2001 at 07:27:38PM -0600 X-GPG-Key-ID: 1024D/0E451F7D X-GPG-Key-Fingerprint: E2CA 411D DD44 53FD BB4B 3CB5 B4D7 10A2 0E45 1F7D Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Wed, Dec 19, 2001 at 07:27:38PM -0600, Alfred Perlstein wrote: > Hey, I noticed that people are going all XML for docbook, should > I look at that or stick with sgml? That depends on your requirements, there isn't going to be a very big difference if you are just looking at this from an authoring perspective. If you're evaluating toolchains for different publication requirements then the details could be very important indeed. The DSSSL toolchain still has better support than the XML-FO backend used by XSLT processors. DSSSL can be used with either SGML or XML DocBook documents though. If you are going to be using the FreeBSD Doc Project infrastructure, with its enormous advantage of "just working" out of the box, then I would suggest sticking with SGML. - Murray To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Thu Dec 20 3:26:16 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mao.stokely.org (mao.stokely.org [65.84.64.228]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9CE4037B417 for ; Thu, 20 Dec 2001 03:26:13 -0800 (PST) Received: by mao.stokely.org (Postfix, from userid 2074) id DB9824B661; Thu, 20 Dec 2001 03:26:12 -0800 (PST) Date: Thu, 20 Dec 2001 03:26:12 -0800 From: Murray Stokely To: Josef Karthauser Cc: freebsd-doc@FReeBSD.org Subject: Re: docs/32697 (new article) Message-ID: <20011220032612.G27392@windriver.com> References: <20011211190820.84682.qmail@web21105.mail.yahoo.com> <20011219172350.E8037@tao.org.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <20011219172350.E8037@tao.org.uk>; from joe@tao.org.uk on Wed, Dec 19, 2001 at 05:23:50PM +0000 X-GPG-Key-ID: 1024D/0E451F7D X-GPG-Key-Fingerprint: E2CA 411D DD44 53FD BB4B 3CB5 B4D7 10A2 0E45 1F7D Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I will get to this today, thanks! - Murray On Wed, Dec 19, 2001 at 05:23:50PM +0000, Josef Karthauser wrote: > On Tue, Dec 11, 2001 at 11:08:20AM -0800, Hiten Pandya wrote: > > hello, > > > > i have filed a PR in about an article i have > > converted to DocBook. > > > > Title: The Release Engineering Process of FreeBSD 4.4 > > > > The article has been reviewed by the Author himself > > (Murray Stokely), all it needs if commiting.. > > > > thank you, > > > > PR Number is: 32697 > > Hi Murray, > > Are you going to get a chance to commit this? I'll do it if not, but > where should it go? [Also can you confirm that you're happy with its > content?] > > Thanks > Joe To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Thu Dec 20 3:30:31 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AD07137B416 for ; Thu, 20 Dec 2001 03:30:02 -0800 (PST) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) id fBKBU1d30386; Thu, 20 Dec 2001 03:30:01 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gnats) Date: Thu, 20 Dec 2001 03:30:01 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <200112201130.fBKBU1d30386@freefall.freebsd.org> To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Cc: From: Murray Stokely Subject: Re: docs/33017: Updates to config section of Handbook + plus whitespace patch Reply-To: Murray Stokely Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org The following reply was made to PR docs/33017; it has been noted by GNATS. From: Murray Stokely To: Ceri Cc: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@freebsd.org Subject: Re: docs/33017: Updates to config section of Handbook + plus whitespace patch Date: Thu, 20 Dec 2001 03:27:00 -0800 Can you please supply two separate diffs? One for your content changes and one for your whitespace changes? It makes things very difficult for the translation teams if we combine content and whitespace changes into a single commit. Thanks, - Murray On Wed, Dec 19, 2001 at 09:26:40PM +0000, Ceri wrote: > > >Number: 33017 > >Category: docs > >Synopsis: Updates to config section of Handbook + plus whitespace patch > >Confidential: no > >Severity: non-critical > >Priority: medium > >Responsible: freebsd-doc > >State: open > >Quarter: > >Keywords: > >Date-Required: > >Class: doc-bug > >Submitter-Id: current-users > >Arrival-Date: Wed Dec 19 13:40:00 PST 2001 > >Closed-Date: > >Last-Modified: > >Originator: Ceri > >Release: FreeBSD 4.4-STABLE i386 > >Organization: > >Environment: > System: FreeBSD rhadamanth.private.submonkey.net 4.4-STABLE FreeBSD 4.4-STABLE #0: Wed Dec 5 00:48:29 GMT 2001 root@rhadamanth.private.submonkey.net:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/RHADAMANTH i386 > > Today's doc tree. > > >Description: > > The config section of the Handbook is now out of date regarding > vfs.vmiodirenable. Also, MAXUSERS is now magic. > And fix some typos and whitespace while I'm at it. > > Ceri > > >How-To-Repeat: > Read it > >Fix: > > Patch #1 to fix stuff : > > *** doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/config/chapter.sgml.old Wed Dec 19 20:42:48 2001 > --- doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/config/chapter.sgml Wed Dec 19 21:06:29 2001 > *************** > *** 123,129 **** > > The size of your /var partition > reflects the intended use of your machine. > ! /var is primarily used to hold: > mailboxes, print spool and log files. Mailboxes and log > files, in particular, can grow to unexpected sizes based upon > how many users are on your system and how long your log files > --- 123,129 ---- > > The size of your /var partition > reflects the intended use of your machine. > ! /var is primarily used to hold > mailboxes, print spool and log files. Mailboxes and log > files, in particular, can grow to unexpected sizes based upon > how many users are on your system and how long your log files > *************** > *** 225,231 **** > that shifting them more towards the edge of the disk will not > lead to a significant performance improvement whereas moving > /var to the edge can have a huge impact. > ! Finally, there are safety concerns. Having a small neat root > partition that is essentially read-only gives it a greater > chance of surviving a bad crash intact. > > --- 225,231 ---- > that shifting them more towards the edge of the disk will not > lead to a significant performance improvement whereas moving > /var to the edge can have a huge impact. > ! Finally, there are safety concerns. Having a small, neat root > partition that is essentially read-only gives it a greater > chance of surviving a bad crash intact. > > *************** > *** 282,288 **** > > > The rc.conf.site file can then be > ! distributed to every system using rsync or similar > program, whilst the rc.conf file remains > unique. > > --- 282,288 ---- > > > The rc.conf.site file can then be > ! distributed to every system using rsync or a similar > program, whilst the rc.conf file remains > unique. > > *************** > *** 579,584 **** > --- 579,587 ---- > nameserver 147.11.1.11 > nameserver 147.11.100.30 > > + Only one of the search and > + domain options should be used. > + > If you are using DHCP, &man.dhclient.8; usually rewrites > resolv.conf with information received from the > DHCP server. > *************** > *** 598,604 **** > a local record of Internet names, reducing the need to query > externally for commonly accessed names.
    > > ! # $FreeBSD$ > # > # Host Database > # This file should contain the addresses and aliases > --- 601,607 ---- > a local record of Internet names, reducing the need to query > externally for commonly accessed names.
    > > ! # $FreeBSD$ > # > # Host Database > # This file should contain the addresses and aliases > *************** > *** 699,706 **** > newsyslog.conf > > newsyslog.conf is the configuration > ! file for &man.newsyslog.8;, a program that is scheduled to run > ! normally by &man.cron.8;. &man.newsyslog.8; determines when log > files require archiving or rearranging. > logfile is moved to > logfile.0, logfile.0 > --- 702,709 ---- > newsyslog.conf > > newsyslog.conf is the configuration > ! file for &man.newsyslog.8;, a program that is normally scheduled > ! to run by &man.cron.8;. &man.newsyslog.8; determines when log > files require archiving or rearranging. > logfile is moved to > logfile.0, logfile.0 > *************** > *** 797,804 **** > kern.maxfiles: 2088 -> 5000 > > Settings of sysctl variables are usually either strings, > ! numbers, or booleans. A boolean being 1 for yes > ! or a 0 for no. > > > > --- 800,807 ---- > kern.maxfiles: 2088 -> 5000 > > Settings of sysctl variables are usually either strings, > ! numbers, or booleans (a boolean being 1 for yes > ! or a 0 for no). > > > > *************** > *** 815,821 **** > > > The vfs.vmiodirenable sysctl variable > ! defaults to 0 (off) (though soon it will default to 1) and may > be set to 0 (off) or 1 (on). This parameter controls how > directories are cached by the system. Most directories are > small and use but a single fragment (typically 1K) in the > --- 818,824 ---- > > > The vfs.vmiodirenable sysctl variable > ! defaults to 1 (on) and may > be set to 0 (off) or 1 (on). This parameter controls how > directories are cached by the system. Most directories are > small and use but a single fragment (typically 1K) in the > *************** > *** 884,889 **** > --- 887,896 ---- > it is mounted. A good time to enable Soft Updates is before any > partitions have been mounted, in single-user mode. > > + As of FreeBSD 4.5, it is possible to enable Soft Updates > + at filesystem creation time, through use of the -U > + option to &man.newfs.8;. > + > Soft Updates drastically improves meta-data performance, mainly > file creation and deletion, through the use of a memory cache. We > recommend turning Soft Updates on on all of your filesystems. There > *************** > *** 928,948 **** > kind and number of services running concurrently. > > kern.maxfile's default value is > ! dictated by the option in your > kernel configuration file. kern.maxfiles grows > ! proportionally to the value of . When > compiling a custom kernel, it is a good idea to set this kernel > configuration option according to the uses of your system. From > this number, the kernel is given most of its pre-defined limits. > Even though a production machine may not actually have 256 users > connected as once, the resources needed may be similar to a > high-scale webserver. > > > > Network Limits > > ! The NMBCLUSTERS kernel configuration > option dictates the amount of network mbufs available to the > system. A heavily-trafficked server with a low number of MBUFs > will hinder FreeBSD's ability. Each cluster represents > --- 935,961 ---- > kind and number of services running concurrently. > > kern.maxfile's default value is > ! dictated by the option in your > kernel configuration file. kern.maxfiles grows > ! proportionally to the value of . When > compiling a custom kernel, it is a good idea to set this kernel > configuration option according to the uses of your system. From > this number, the kernel is given most of its pre-defined limits. > Even though a production machine may not actually have 256 users > connected as once, the resources needed may be similar to a > high-scale webserver. > + > + As of FreeBSD 4.5, setting to > + 0 in your kernel configuration file will choose > + a reasonable default value based on the amount of RAM present in > + your system. > + > > > > Network Limits > > ! The kernel configuration > option dictates the amount of network mbufs available to the > system. A heavily-trafficked server with a low number of MBUFs > will hinder FreeBSD's ability. Each cluster represents > > Patch #2 for whitespace : > > > *** doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/config/chapter.sgml.old Wed Dec 19 21:09:48 2001 > --- doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/config/chapter.sgml Wed Dec 19 21:20:03 2001 > *************** > *** 42,49 **** > administrative configuration of FreeBSD systems. > > This chapter will also describe some of the parameters that > ! can be set to tune a FreeBSD system for optimum > ! performance. > > After reading this chapter, you will know: > > --- 42,48 ---- > administrative configuration of FreeBSD systems. > > This chapter will also describe some of the parameters that > ! can be set to tune a FreeBSD system for optimum performance. > > After reading this chapter, you will know: > > *************** > *** 82,90 **** > > > Be familiar with keeping FreeBSD sources up to date > ! (), and > ! the basics of kernel configuration/compilation > ! (). > > > > --- 81,88 ---- > > > Be familiar with keeping FreeBSD sources up to date > ! (), and the basics of kernel > ! configuration/compilation (). > > > > *************** > *** 116,124 **** > smaller, heavily-accessed filesystems, such as root and swap, > closer to the outside of the drive, while placing larger > partitions, such as /usr, towards the > ! inner. To do so, it is > ! a good idea to create partitions in a similar order: root, > ! swap, /var, > /usr. > > The size of your /var partition > --- 114,121 ---- > smaller, heavily-accessed filesystems, such as root and swap, > closer to the outside of the drive, while placing larger > partitions, such as /usr, towards the > ! inner. To do so, it is a good idea to create partitions in > ! a similar order: root, swap, /var, > /usr. > > The size of your /var partition > *************** > *** 135,153 **** > > The /usr partition holds the bulk > of the files required to support the system and a > ! subdirectory within it called > ! /usr/local holds the bulk of the files > ! installed from the &man.ports.7; hierarchy. If you do not > ! use ports all that much and do not intend to keep system > ! source (/usr/src) on the machine, > ! you can get away with a 1 > ! gigabyte /usr partition. However, > ! if you install a lot of > ! ports (especially window managers and Linux binaries), we > ! recommend at least a two gigabyte /usr > ! and if you also > ! intend to keep system source on the machine, we recommend a > ! three gigabyte /usr. Do not > underestimate the amount of space you will need in this > partition, it can creep up and surprise you! > > --- 132,147 ---- > > The /usr partition holds the bulk > of the files required to support the system and a > ! subdirectory within it called /usr/local > ! holds the bulk of the files installed from the &man.ports.7; > ! hierarchy. If you do not use ports all that much and do not > ! intend to keep system source (/usr/src) > ! on the machine, you can get away with a 1 gigabyte > ! /usr partition. However, if you install > ! a lot of ports (especially window managers and Linux binaries), > ! we recommend at least a two gigabyte /usr > ! and if you also intend to keep system source on the machine, > ! we recommend a three gigabyte /usr. Do not > underestimate the amount of space you will need in this > partition, it can creep up and surprise you! > > *************** > *** 157,166 **** > frustration. > > Some users who have used &man.sysinstall.8;'s > ! Auto-defaults partition sizer have found > ! either their root or /var partitions too > ! small later on. Partition wisely and > ! generously. > > > > --- 151,159 ---- > frustration. > > Some users who have used &man.sysinstall.8;'s > ! Auto-defaults partition sizer have found > ! either their root or /var partitions too > ! small later on. Partition wisely and generously. > > > > *************** > *** 271,284 **** > > > rc.conf: > ! . rc.conf.site > ! hostname="node15.example.com" > ! network_interfaces="fxp0 lo0" > ! ifconfig_fxp0="inet 10.1.1.1" > rc.conf.site: > ! defaultrouter="10.1.1.254" > ! saver="daemon" > ! blanktime="100" > > > The rc.conf.site file can then be > --- 264,277 ---- > > > rc.conf: > ! . rc.conf.site > ! hostname="node15.example.com" > ! network_interfaces="fxp0 lo0" > ! ifconfig_fxp0="inet 10.1.1.1" > rc.conf.site: > ! defaultrouter="10.1.1.254" > ! saver="daemon" > ! blanktime="100" > > > The rc.conf.site file can then be > *************** > *** 288,295 **** > > Upgrading the system using &man.sysinstall.8; > or make world will not overwrite the > ! rc.conf > ! file, so system configuration information will not be lost. > > > > --- 281,288 ---- > > Upgrading the system using &man.sysinstall.8; > or make world will not overwrite the > ! rc.conf file, so system configuration > ! information will not be lost. > > > > *************** > *** 312,320 **** > Normally, when a port or package is installed, sample > configuration files are also installed. These are usually > identified with a .default suffix. If there > ! are no existing > ! configuration files for the application, they will be created by > ! copying the .default files. > > For example, consider the contents of the directory > /usr/local/etc/apache: > --- 305,312 ---- > Normally, when a port or package is installed, sample > configuration files are also installed. These are usually > identified with a .default suffix. If there > ! are no existing configuration files for the application, > ! they will be created by copying the .default files. > > For example, consider the contents of the directory > /usr/local/etc/apache: > *************** > *** 352,364 **** > /usr/local/etc/rc.d which is invoked at > system startup with a argument, and at > system shutdown with a argument. > ! This is the recommended way for > ! starting system-wide services that are to be run as > ! root, or that > expect to be started as root. > ! These scripts are registered as > ! part of the installation of the package, and will be removed > ! when the package is removed. > > A generic startup script in > /usr/local/etc/rc.d looks like: > --- 344,354 ---- > /usr/local/etc/rc.d which is invoked at > system startup with a argument, and at > system shutdown with a argument. > ! This is the recommended way for starting system-wide services > ! that are to be run as root, or that > expect to be started as root. > ! These scripts are registered as part of the installation of the > ! package, and will be removed when the package is removed. > > A generic startup script in > /usr/local/etc/rc.d looks like: > *************** > *** 379,386 **** > ;; > esac > > ! exit 0 > ! > > This script is called with > at startup, and the at shutdown to allow > --- 369,375 ---- > ;; > esac > > ! exit 0 > > This script is called with > at startup, and the at shutdown to allow > *************** > *** 405,412 **** > Do not place any commands in > /etc/rc.conf. To start daemons, or > run any commands at boot time, place a script in > ! /usr/local/etc/rc.d instead. > ! > > It is also possible to use the &man.cron.8; daemon to start > system services. This approach has a number of advantages, not > --- 394,400 ---- > Do not place any commands in > /etc/rc.conf. To start daemons, or > run any commands at boot time, place a script in > ! /usr/local/etc/rc.d instead. > > It is also possible to use the &man.cron.8; daemon to start > system services. This approach has a number of advantages, not > *************** > *** 416,424 **** > > This takes advantage of a feature of &man.cron.8;: the > time specification may be replaced by @reboot, > ! which will > ! cause the job to be run when &man.cron.8; is started shortly after > ! system boot. > > > > --- 404,411 ---- > > This takes advantage of a feature of &man.cron.8;: the > time specification may be replaced by @reboot, > ! which will cause the job to be run when &man.cron.8; is started > ! shortly after system boot. > > > > *************** > *** 434,441 **** > > A given network interface has one real address, > and may have any number of alias addresses. > ! These aliases are > ! normally added by placing alias entries in > /etc/rc.conf. > > An alias entry for the interface fxp0 > --- 421,427 ---- > > A given network interface has one real address, > and may have any number of alias addresses. > ! These aliases are normally added by placing alias entries in > /etc/rc.conf. > > An alias entry for the interface fxp0 > *************** > *** 445,452 **** > > Note that alias entries must start with alias0 and proceed > upwards in order, (for example, _alias1, _alias2, and so on). > ! The configuration process will stop at the first missing number. > ! > > The calculation of alias netmasks is important, but > fortunately quite simple. For a given interface, there must be > --- 431,437 ---- > > Note that alias entries must start with alias0 and proceed > upwards in order, (for example, _alias1, _alias2, and so on). > ! The configuration process will stop at the first missing number. > > The calculation of alias netmasks is important, but > fortunately quite simple. For a given interface, there must be > *************** > *** 464,478 **** > The following entries configure the adapter correctly for > this arrangement: > > ! ifconfig_fxp0="inet 10.1.1.1 netmask 255.255.255.0" > ! ifconfig_fxp0_alias0="inet 10.1.1.2 netmask 255.255.255.255" > ! ifconfig_fxp0_alias1="inet 10.1.1.3 netmask 255.255.255.255" > ! ifconfig_fxp0_alias2="inet 10.1.1.4 netmask 255.255.255.255" > ! ifconfig_fxp0_alias3="inet 10.1.1.5 netmask 255.255.255.255" > ! ifconfig_fxp0_alias4="inet 202.0.75.17 netmask 255.255.255.240" > ! ifconfig_fxp0_alias5="inet 202.0.75.18 netmask 255.255.255.255" > ! ifconfig_fxp0_alias6="inet 202.0.75.19 netmask 255.255.255.255" > ! ifconfig_fxp0_alias7="inet 202.0.75.20 netmask 255.255.255.255" > > > > --- 449,463 ---- > The following entries configure the adapter correctly for > this arrangement: > > ! ifconfig_fxp0="inet 10.1.1.1 netmask 255.255.255.0" > ! ifconfig_fxp0_alias0="inet 10.1.1.2 netmask 255.255.255.255" > ! ifconfig_fxp0_alias1="inet 10.1.1.3 netmask 255.255.255.255" > ! ifconfig_fxp0_alias2="inet 10.1.1.4 netmask 255.255.255.255" > ! ifconfig_fxp0_alias3="inet 10.1.1.5 netmask 255.255.255.255" > ! ifconfig_fxp0_alias4="inet 202.0.75.17 netmask 255.255.255.240" > ! ifconfig_fxp0_alias5="inet 202.0.75.18 netmask 255.255.255.255" > ! ifconfig_fxp0_alias6="inet 202.0.75.19 netmask 255.255.255.255" > ! ifconfig_fxp0_alias7="inet 202.0.75.20 netmask 255.255.255.255" > > > > *************** > *** 499,511 **** > > /etc/mail > Extra &man.sendmail.8; configuration, other > ! MTA configuration files. > ! > > > /etc/ppp > ! Configuration for both user- and kernel-ppp programs. > ! > > > /etc/namedb > --- 484,494 ---- > > /etc/mail > Extra &man.sendmail.8; configuration, other > ! MTA configuration files. > > > /etc/ppp > ! Configuration for both user- and kernel-ppp programs. > > > /etc/namedb > *************** > *** 752,760 **** > > sysctl.conf looks much like > rc.conf. Values are set in a > ! variable=value > ! form. The specified values are set after the system goes into > ! multi-user mode. Not all variables are settable in this mode. > > A sample sysctl.conf turning off logging > of fatal signal exits and letting Linux programs know they are really > --- 735,743 ---- > > sysctl.conf looks much like > rc.conf. Values are set in a > ! variable=value form. The specified values > ! are set after the system goes into multi-user mode. Not all > ! variables are settable in this mode. > > A sample sysctl.conf turning off logging > of fatal signal exits and letting Linux programs know they are really > *************** > *** 818,833 **** > > > The vfs.vmiodirenable sysctl variable > ! defaults to 1 (on) and may > ! be set to 0 (off) or 1 (on). This parameter controls how > ! directories are cached by the system. Most directories are > ! small and use but a single fragment (typically 1K) in the > ! filesystem and even less (typically 512 bytes) in the buffer > ! cache. However, when operating in the default mode the buffer > ! cache will only cache a fixed number of directories even if > ! you have a huge amount of memory. Turning on this sysctl > ! allows the buffer cache to use the VM Page Cache to cache the > ! directories. The advantage is that all of memory is now > available for caching directories. The disadvantage is that > the minimum in-core memory used to cache a directory is the > physical page size (typically 4K) rather than 512 bytes. We > --- 801,815 ---- > > > The vfs.vmiodirenable sysctl variable > ! defaults to 1 (on) and may be set to 0 (off) or 1 (on). > ! This parameter controls how directories are cached by the > ! system. Most directories are small and use but a single fragment > ! (typically 1K) in the filesystem and even less (typically 512 > ! bytes) in the buffer cache. However, when operating in the > ! default mode the buffer cache will only cache a fixed number of > ! directories even if you have a huge amount of memory. Turning > ! on this sysctl allows the buffer cache to use the VM Page Cache > ! to cache the directories. The advantage is that all of memory is now > available for caching directories. The disadvantage is that > the minimum in-core memory used to cache a directory is the > physical page size (typically 4K) rather than 512 bytes. We > >Release-Note: > >Audit-Trail: > >Unformatted: > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Thu Dec 20 5:24:44 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from trinity.jamiesdomain.org.uk (trinity.jamiesdomain.org.uk [62.49.217.114]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6994137B419 for ; Thu, 20 Dec 2001 05:24:40 -0800 (PST) Received: from cassius.trident-uk.co.uk (jamie@mail.trident-uk.co.uk [195.166.16.10]) by trinity.jamiesdomain.org.uk (8.11.4/8.11.4) with ESMTP id fBKDMga12014 for ; Thu, 20 Dec 2001 13:22:43 GMT (envelope-from jamie@jamiesdomain.org.uk) Date: Thu, 20 Dec 2001 13:24:34 +0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v475) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Subject: Chapter 11 - Storage From: Jamie Heckford To: doc@freebsd.org Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.475) Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi, Just thought I would mention a part of the documentation that some people may take offence to, it is in Chapter 11 in backup-programs.html, just above Example 12-5. "A remote location is NOT the basement of the same office building. A number of firms in the World Trade Center learned this lesson the hard way." Although im pretty sure this was written before Sep 11, and I personally don't find it upsetting / whatever, just thought I would let you know incase someone new does! Thanks, Jamie To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Thu Dec 20 6:10:10 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 081CA37B41C for ; Thu, 20 Dec 2001 06:10:02 -0800 (PST) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) id fBKEA1x73177; Thu, 20 Dec 2001 06:10:01 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gnats) Date: Thu, 20 Dec 2001 06:10:01 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <200112201410.fBKEA1x73177@freefall.freebsd.org> To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Cc: From: Ceri Subject: Re: docs/33017: Updates to config section of Handbook + plus whitespace patch Reply-To: Ceri Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org The following reply was made to PR docs/33017; it has been noted by GNATS. From: Ceri To: Murray Stokely Cc: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@freebsd.org Subject: Re: docs/33017: Updates to config section of Handbook + plus whitespace patch Date: Thu, 20 Dec 2001 14:03:15 +0000 On Thu, Dec 20, 2001 at 03:27:00AM -0800, Murray Stokely wrote: > Can you please supply two separate diffs? One for your content > changes and one for your whitespace changes? It makes things very > difficult for the translation teams if we combine content and > whitespace changes into a single commit. There are two seperate diffs. Ceri To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Thu Dec 20 7:34:20 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from elvis.mu.org (elvis.mu.org [216.33.66.196]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6CF4037B405; Thu, 20 Dec 2001 07:34:17 -0800 (PST) Received: by elvis.mu.org (Postfix, from userid 1192) id EECC581E0B; Thu, 20 Dec 2001 09:34:11 -0600 (CST) Date: Thu, 20 Dec 2001 09:34:11 -0600 From: Alfred Perlstein To: Murray Stokely Cc: doc@freebsd.org, nik@freebsd.org Subject: Re: should i be using sgml or xml? Message-ID: <20011220093411.A48837@elvis.mu.org> References: <20011219192738.E95146@elvis.mu.org> <20011220032529.F27392@windriver.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <20011220032529.F27392@windriver.com>; from murray@FreeBSD.org on Thu, Dec 20, 2001 at 03:25:29AM -0800 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org * Murray Stokely [011220 05:25] wrote: > On Wed, Dec 19, 2001 at 07:27:38PM -0600, Alfred Perlstein wrote: > > Hey, I noticed that people are going all XML for docbook, should > > I look at that or stick with sgml? > > That depends on your requirements, there isn't going to be a very > big difference if you are just looking at this from an authoring > perspective. If you're evaluating toolchains for different > publication requirements then the details could be very important > indeed. The DSSSL toolchain still has better support than the XML-FO > backend used by XSLT processors. DSSSL can be used with either SGML > or XML DocBook documents though. If you are going to be using the > FreeBSD Doc Project infrastructure, with its enormous advantage of > "just working" out of the box, then I would suggest sticking with > SGML. Well I am using FreeBSD docbook, however I wasn't sure what path you guys were following. I was also hoping for some form of an indent(1) tool, I assumed xml would work better than sgml for that. Is there an indent(1) for sgml? You guys planning on doing xml any time soon? (not that I want you to, just wondering if you might). -- -Alfred Perlstein [alfred@freebsd.org] 'Instead of asking why a piece of software is using "1970s technology," start asking why software is ignoring 30 years of accumulated wisdom.' http://www.morons.org/rants/gpl-harmful.php3 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Thu Dec 20 12:21:52 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from pittgoth.com (14.zlnp1.xdsl.nauticom.net [209.195.149.111]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7021837B419 for ; Thu, 20 Dec 2001 12:21:49 -0800 (PST) Received: from oemcomputer (lcl234.zbzoom.net [208.236.36.234]) by pittgoth.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id fBKKMCD78657; Thu, 20 Dec 2001 15:22:14 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from darklogik@pittgoth.com) From: darklogik@pittgoth.com To: Jamie Heckford Date: Thu, 20 Dec 2001 15:28:06 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: Re: Chapter 11 - Storage Cc: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Message-ID: <3C220386.5385.988B4F1@localhost> In-reply-to: X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v3.12c) Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Actually, this is chapter 12, but its listed as the "disks" chapter in the handbook directory under cvs, I won't have to work on this until tonight, but if noone else does, I'll do something tonight... You are kinda right, after the sep 11th attacks, that may just be considered "bad form". Thanks for pointing it out to us... On 20 Dec 2001, at 13:24, Jamie Heckford wrote: > Hi, > > Just thought I would mention a part of the documentation that some > people may take offence to, it is in Chapter 11 in backup-programs.html, > just above Example 12-5. > > "A remote location is NOT the basement of the same office building. A > number of firms in the World Trade Center learned this lesson the hard > way." > > Although im pretty sure this was written before Sep 11, and I personally > don't find it upsetting / whatever, just thought I would let you know > incase someone new does! > > Thanks, > > Jamie Tom Rhodes http://www.pittgoth.com Dark Portal Project http://www.FreeBSD.org FreeBSD Project To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Thu Dec 20 12:40:28 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from rwcrmhc51.attbi.com (rwcrmhc51.attbi.com [204.127.198.38]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 39D2537B419 for ; Thu, 20 Dec 2001 12:40:25 -0800 (PST) Received: from bmah.dyndns.org ([12.233.149.189]) by rwcrmhc51.attbi.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.27 201-229-121-127-20010626) with ESMTP id <20011220204024.IEDS19716.rwcrmhc51.attbi.com@bmah.dyndns.org>; Thu, 20 Dec 2001 20:40:24 +0000 Received: (from bmah@localhost) by bmah.dyndns.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) id fBKKeNY87467; Thu, 20 Dec 2001 12:40:23 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from bmah) Message-Id: <200112202040.fBKKeNY87467@bmah.dyndns.org> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.5 07/13/2001 with nmh-1.0.4 To: darklogik@pittgoth.com Cc: Jamie Heckford , freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Chapter 11 - Storage In-reply-to: <3C220386.5385.988B4F1@localhost> References: <3C220386.5385.988B4F1@localhost> Comments: In-reply-to darklogik@pittgoth.com message dated "Thu, 20 Dec 2001 15:28:06 -0800." From: "Bruce A. Mah" Reply-To: bmah@FreeBSD.ORG X-Face: g~c`.{#4q0"(V*b#g[i~rXgm*w;:nMfz%_RZLma)UgGN&=j`5vXoU^@n5v4:OO)c["!w)nD/!!~e4Sj7LiT'6*wZ83454H""lb{CC%T37O!!'S$S&D}sem7I[A 2V%N&+ X-Image-Url: http://www.employees.org/~bmah/Images/bmah-cisco-small.gif X-Url: http://www.employees.org/~bmah/ Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Thu, 20 Dec 2001 12:40:23 -0800 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org If memory serves me right, darklogik@pittgoth.com wrote: > Actually, this is chapter 12, but its listed as the "disks" chapter in > the handbook directory under cvs, I won't have to work on this until > tonight, but if noone else does, I'll do something tonight... You are > kinda right, after the sep 11th attacks, that may just be considered > "bad form". Thanks for pointing it out to us... [snip] > > "A remote location is NOT the basement of the same office building. A > > number of firms in the World Trade Center learned this lesson the hard > > way." The example of the World Trade Center is a good one. I think it should stay unless it is replaced with another concrete example of the need for "really off-site" backups. If you want to reword it to make it less blunt, that's fine too. It's disturbing to think about the events of September 11, but anyone who feels that fault tolerance and disaster recovery is important would be a fool not to study this incident and learn from it. Bruce. PS. I'd guess off-hand that someone wrote the text in question *after* September 11, otherwise the sentence wouldn't make much sense in context. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Thu Dec 20 12:43:36 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from bunning.skiltech.com (bunning.skiltech.com [216.235.79.240]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E419837B422; Thu, 20 Dec 2001 12:43:22 -0800 (PST) Received: (from root@localhost) by bunning.skiltech.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) id fBKKhCP70221; Thu, 20 Dec 2001 15:43:12 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from minter) Received: (from minter@localhost) by bunning.skiltech.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) id fBKKhAp70213; Thu, 20 Dec 2001 15:43:10 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from minter) Date: Thu, 20 Dec 2001 15:43:10 -0500 (EST) From: "H. Wade Minter" X-X-Sender: minter@bunning.skiltech.com To: "Bruce A. Mah" Cc: darklogik@pittgoth.com, Jamie Heckford , Subject: Re: Chapter 11 - Storage In-Reply-To: <200112202040.fBKKeNY87467@bmah.dyndns.org> Message-ID: <20011220154231.W69993-100000@bunning.skiltech.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Virus-Scanned: by AMaViS perl-11 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Thu, 20 Dec 2001, Bruce A. Mah wrote: > PS. I'd guess off-hand that someone wrote the text in question *after* > September 11, otherwise the sentence wouldn't make much sense in > context. It was probably written after the attack on the basement area of the WTC several years ago. --Wade To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Thu Dec 20 12:49: 6 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from pittgoth.com (14.zlnp1.xdsl.nauticom.net [209.195.149.111]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 08BF737B416; Thu, 20 Dec 2001 12:49:03 -0800 (PST) Received: from oemcomputer (lcl234.zbzoom.net [208.236.36.234]) by pittgoth.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id fBKKncD78756; Thu, 20 Dec 2001 15:49:38 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from darklogik@pittgoth.com) From: darklogik@pittgoth.com To: bmah@FreeBSD.ORG Date: Thu, 20 Dec 2001 15:55:30 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: Re: Chapter 11 - Storage Cc: Jamie Heckford , freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Message-ID: <3C2209F2.12009.9A1CCA4@localhost> In-reply-to: <200112202040.fBKKeNY87467@bmah.dyndns.org> References: <3C220386.5385.988B4F1@localhost> X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v3.12c) Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Were not hateful people, I guess leaving it in would be understandable, but maybe it could be reworded to be alot less blunt, or we could make up an example. I've noticed, at least in my town, alot of people take offence to the slightest mention of such a day. No matter, a re-word is possible, and i'll get to it sometime, thanks for the input! > The example of the World Trade Center is a good one. I think it should > stay unless it is replaced with another concrete example of the need for > "really off-site" backups. If you want to reword it to make it less > blunt, that's fine too. > > It's disturbing to think about the events of September 11, but anyone > who feels that fault tolerance and disaster recovery is important would > be a fool not to study this incident and learn from it. > > Bruce. > > PS. I'd guess off-hand that someone wrote the text in question *after* > September 11, otherwise the sentence wouldn't make much sense in > context. > Wade pointed this out, and lets leave it at that, this isn't a history list hehehe... Tom Rhodes http://www.pittgoth.com Dark Portal Project http://www.FreeBSD.org FreeBSD Project To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Thu Dec 20 12:49:43 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from rwcrmhc52.attbi.com (rwcrmhc52.attbi.com [216.148.227.88]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 312FA37B419; Thu, 20 Dec 2001 12:49:41 -0800 (PST) Received: from bmah.dyndns.org ([12.233.149.189]) by rwcrmhc52.attbi.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.27 201-229-121-127-20010626) with ESMTP id <20011220204929.GNOV6450.rwcrmhc52.attbi.com@bmah.dyndns.org>; Thu, 20 Dec 2001 20:49:29 +0000 Received: (from bmah@localhost) by bmah.dyndns.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) id fBKKnTq91493; Thu, 20 Dec 2001 12:49:29 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from bmah) Message-Id: <200112202049.fBKKnTq91493@bmah.dyndns.org> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.5 07/13/2001 with nmh-1.0.4 To: "H. Wade Minter" Cc: "Bruce A. Mah" , darklogik@pittgoth.com, Jamie Heckford , freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Chapter 11 - Storage In-reply-to: <20011220154231.W69993-100000@bunning.skiltech.com> References: <20011220154231.W69993-100000@bunning.skiltech.com> Comments: In-reply-to "H. Wade Minter" message dated "Thu, 20 Dec 2001 15:43:10 -0500." From: bmah@freebsd.org (Bruce A. Mah) Reply-To: bmah@freebsd.org X-Face: g~c`.{#4q0"(V*b#g[i~rXgm*w;:nMfz%_RZLma)UgGN&=j`5vXoU^@n5v4:OO)c["!w)nD/!!~e4Sj7LiT'6*wZ83454H""lb{CC%T37O!!'S$S&D}sem7I[A 2V%N&+ X-Image-Url: http://www.employees.org/~bmah/Images/bmah-cisco-small.gif X-Url: http://www.employees.org/~bmah/ Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Thu, 20 Dec 2001 12:49:29 -0800 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org If memory serves me right, "H. Wade Minter" wrote: > On Thu, 20 Dec 2001, Bruce A. Mah wrote: > > > PS. I'd guess off-hand that someone wrote the text in question *after* > > September 11, otherwise the sentence wouldn't make much sense in > > context. > > It was probably written after the attack on the basement area of the WTC > several years ago. OK, I could buy that, thanks. The rest of my message stands. Bruce. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Thu Dec 20 15:46:21 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from guppy.vub.ac.be (guppy.vub.ac.be [134.184.129.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 22D9C37B419 for ; Thu, 20 Dec 2001 15:46:07 -0800 (PST) Received: from fort-knox.rave.org (igwe15.vub.ac.be [134.184.49.15]) by guppy.vub.ac.be (8.9.1b+Sun/3.17.1.ap (guppy)) id AAA29912; Fri, 21 Dec 2001 00:45:50 +0100 (MET) for Received: (qmail 11355 invoked by uid 1979); 20 Dec 2001 23:45:56 -0000 Received: from localhost (sendmail-bs@127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 20 Dec 2001 23:45:56 -0000 Date: Fri, 21 Dec 2001 00:45:56 +0100 (CET) From: Wouter Van Hemel To: "Bruce A. Mah" Cc: darklogik@pittgoth.com, Jamie Heckford , Subject: Re: Chapter 11 - Storage In-Reply-To: <200112202040.fBKKeNY87467@bmah.dyndns.org> Message-ID: PGP: 0B B4 BC 28 53 62 FE 94 6A 57 EE B8 A6 E2 1B E4 (0xAA5412F0) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Thu, 20 Dec 2001, Bruce A. Mah wrote: > The example of the World Trade Center is a good one. I think it should > stay unless it is replaced with another concrete example of the need for > "really off-site" backups. If you want to reword it to make it less > blunt, that's fine too. > > It's disturbing to think about the events of September 11, but anyone > who feels that fault tolerance and disaster recovery is important would > be a fool not to study this incident and learn from it. > I agree. I personally don't see anything in the message that is offensive. I really think the backup's kept there are broken now. :) And everybody knows about the WTC, which makes this a good (if not overdone) example. Extreme things can happen, either by human action, or -more likely- by disasters of nature. How exactly does this show lack of respect for the loss of life? Furthermore, and without the intention of making this a flame war, I also believe being easy offended is at least as much a problem of the receiver. If we always have to keep the documentation and our language suitable for the most meek and weak, we're not democratic, and it won't make the docs more interesting either. The comment is in place, is correct, and a good example. If it offends 0,01% of the people who read it, well, bummer... Regards, wouter (This is my personal opinion ofcourse; I'd like to point out that I'm very sensitive to censoring (as in seriously opposed to it) though - with all respect to others' opinions.) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Thu Dec 20 15:57:30 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (pc-62-31-42-140-hy.blueyonder.co.uk [62.31.42.140]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7490637B416; Thu, 20 Dec 2001 15:57:25 -0800 (PST) Received: (from nik@localhost) by nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) id fBKNqPL93502; Thu, 20 Dec 2001 23:52:25 GMT (envelope-from nik) Date: Thu, 20 Dec 2001 23:52:25 +0000 From: Nik Clayton To: Alfred Perlstein Cc: Murray Stokely , doc@freebsd.org, nik@freebsd.org Subject: Re: should i be using sgml or xml? Message-ID: <20011220235225.I51511@clan.nothing-going-on.org> References: <20011219192738.E95146@elvis.mu.org> <20011220032529.F27392@windriver.com> <20011220093411.A48837@elvis.mu.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-md5; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="YrQNB5Deg1WGKZi3" Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <20011220093411.A48837@elvis.mu.org>; from bright@mu.org on Thu, Dec 20, 2001 at 09:34:11AM -0600 Organization: FreeBSD Project Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org --YrQNB5Deg1WGKZi3 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Thu, Dec 20, 2001 at 09:34:11AM -0600, Alfred Perlstein wrote: > Well I am using FreeBSD docbook, however I wasn't sure what path > you guys were following. I was also hoping for some form of an > indent(1) tool, I assumed xml would work better than sgml for that. >=20 > Is there an indent(1) for sgml? Emacs + psgml mode + some lisp to automate it. > You guys planning on doing xml any time soon? (not that I want you > to, just wondering if you might). We'll probably switch in 18 months or so. I started saying that a year ago, and it's always been "18 months". There's no compelling reason to migrate yet, especially as valid SGML can be mechanically converted to=20 valid XML. I've just knocked up http://people.freebsd.org/~nik/sgmlxml.gif which shows the relationship between the various components that make up the SGML and XML processing tool chains. Note the green line going from "DocBook SGML Source", via "sx", to "DocBook XML Source". This lets us use the XSLT stylesheets to process SGML, if we wanted. Note also that=20 Jade, when given the XML declaration on the command line, can process XML= =20 documents using DSSSL -- we really have the best of all possible worlds at the moment. N --=20 FreeBSD: The Power to Serve http://www.freebsd.org/ FreeBSD Documentation Project http://www.freebsd.org/docproj/ --- 15B8 3FFC DDB4 34B0 AA5F 94B7 93A8 0764 2C37 E375 --- --YrQNB5Deg1WGKZi3 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (FreeBSD) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iEYEARECAAYFAjwiebgACgkQk6gHZCw343UQqACcD2EIH3L75I8jJBe+8m4qtgR/ SkMAn0zSLhTIgdj8WOQxXTYtaxkuG3qD =X4Xu -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --YrQNB5Deg1WGKZi3-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Thu Dec 20 16:20: 8 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6523337B41C for ; Thu, 20 Dec 2001 16:20:01 -0800 (PST) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) id fBL0K1S02965; Thu, 20 Dec 2001 16:20:01 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gnats) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B77EA37B41B for ; Thu, 20 Dec 2001 16:16:14 -0800 (PST) Received: (from nobody@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) id fBL0GEl02573; Thu, 20 Dec 2001 16:16:14 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from nobody) Message-Id: <200112210016.fBL0GEl02573@freefall.freebsd.org> Date: Thu, 20 Dec 2001 16:16:14 -0800 (PST) From: Hiten Pandya To: freebsd-gnats-submit@freebsd.org X-Send-Pr-Version: www-1.0 Subject: docs/33041: [PATCH] - Section 17.5 of Handbook has wrong path for a file Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org >Number: 33041 >Category: docs >Synopsis: [PATCH] - Section 17.5 of Handbook has wrong path for a file >Confidential: no >Severity: non-critical >Priority: medium >Responsible: freebsd-doc >State: open >Quarter: >Keywords: >Date-Required: >Class: doc-bug >Submitter-Id: current-users >Arrival-Date: Thu Dec 20 16:20:01 PST 2001 >Closed-Date: >Last-Modified: >Originator: Hiten Pandya >Release: 5.0-CURRENT >Organization: >Environment: FreeBSD hpdi.ath.cx 5.0-CURRENT FreeBSD 5.0-CURRENT #1: Wed Dec 12 00:34:45 GMT 2001 hitenp@hpdi.ath.cx:/usr/obj/data/dev/src/sys/CURRENT5 i386 >Description: There was a post about this issue on the -doc mailing list but it wasn't taken serious enough, and was kinda ignored. I am officialy sending a Problem Report regarding that issue. This bug was originally pointed out by "Ronald Klop" . In section '17.5 Diskless Operation' in the FreeBSD Handbook, is the sample script '/usr/local/share/examples/clone_root' mentioned. The above path is wrong, and should point to the path below, which is correct, as I have checked it on my system after the post on the -doc mailing list: This should be: /usr/share/examples/diskless/clone_root. I am posting a patch with this PR. thanks, =Hiten = >How-To-Repeat: Visit the FreeBSD Handbook, under the Advanced Networking section (17.5), it points out a path (/usr/local/share/examples/clone_root) which is wrong, if you try to find it on your local FreeBSD system. >Fix: *** chapter.sgml.old Wed Nov 14 15:59:15 2001 --- chapter.sgml Thu Dec 13 23:53:45 2001 *************** *** 1142,1148 **** A sample script ! (/usr/local/share/examples/clone_root) eases the creation and maintenance of the workstation's root filesystem on the server. The script will probably require a little customization but it will get you started very quickly --- 1142,1148 ---- A sample script ! (/usr/share/examples/diskless/clone_root) eases the creation and maintenance of the workstation's root filesystem on the server. The script will probably require a little customization but it will get you started very quickly >Release-Note: >Audit-Trail: >Unformatted: To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Thu Dec 20 17: 0:10 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9620B37B419 for ; Thu, 20 Dec 2001 17:00:01 -0800 (PST) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) id fBL101S06806; Thu, 20 Dec 2001 17:00:01 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gnats) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 17C9837B417 for ; Thu, 20 Dec 2001 16:54:35 -0800 (PST) Received: (from nobody@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) id fBL0sZb06095; Thu, 20 Dec 2001 16:54:35 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from nobody) Message-Id: <200112210054.fBL0sZb06095@freefall.freebsd.org> Date: Thu, 20 Dec 2001 16:54:35 -0800 (PST) From: Ashley Penney To: freebsd-gnats-submit@freebsd.org X-Send-Pr-Version: www-1.0 Subject: docs/33042: Minor changes to Chapter 2 of the handbook. Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org >Number: 33042 >Category: docs >Synopsis: Minor changes to Chapter 2 of the handbook. >Confidential: no >Severity: non-critical >Priority: low >Responsible: freebsd-doc >State: open >Quarter: >Keywords: >Date-Required: >Class: doc-bug >Submitter-Id: current-users >Arrival-Date: Thu Dec 20 17:00:01 PST 2001 >Closed-Date: >Last-Modified: >Originator: Ashley Penney >Release: N/A >Organization: N/A >Environment: N/A >Description: I noticed a few niglets while reading the printed copy of the handbook. Firstly, the default / size was changed to 100M. Secondly, I thought it useful to mention the other way to reboot the system (in case you've wedged something badly during install.. It happens..) >How-To-Repeat: >Fix: --- chapter.sgml.old Thu Dec 20 19:51:34 2001 +++ chapter.sgml Thu Dec 20 19:53:35 2001 @@ -2180,7 +2180,7 @@ / - 64MB + 100MB This is the root file system. Every other filesystem will be mounted somewhere under this one. 64MB is a @@ -4394,6 +4394,9 @@ has been issued and the message "Please press any key to reboot" appears. If any key is pressed instead of turning off the power switch, the system will reboot. + + You may also reboot the system by pressing control-alt-delete + from the keyboard. >Release-Note: >Audit-Trail: >Unformatted: To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Thu Dec 20 17:10: 7 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A0A2037B417 for ; Thu, 20 Dec 2001 17:10:00 -0800 (PST) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) id fBL1A0211400; Thu, 20 Dec 2001 17:10:00 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gnats) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3278837B405 for ; Thu, 20 Dec 2001 17:07:29 -0800 (PST) Received: (from nobody@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) id fBL17Lm10937; Thu, 20 Dec 2001 17:07:21 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from nobody) Message-Id: <200112210107.fBL17Lm10937@freefall.freebsd.org> Date: Thu, 20 Dec 2001 17:07:21 -0800 (PST) From: Ashley Penney To: freebsd-gnats-submit@freebsd.org X-Send-Pr-Version: www-1.0 Subject: docs/33043: Minor changes to Chapter 3 of the handbook. Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org >Number: 33043 >Category: docs >Synopsis: Minor changes to Chapter 3 of the handbook. >Confidential: no >Severity: non-critical >Priority: low >Responsible: freebsd-doc >State: open >Quarter: >Keywords: >Date-Required: >Class: doc-bug >Submitter-Id: current-users >Arrival-Date: Thu Dec 20 17:10:00 PST 2001 >Closed-Date: >Last-Modified: >Originator: Ashley Penney >Release: N/A >Organization: N/A >Environment: >Description: I felt the documentation in 3.4.1 for the fstab fields wasn't as complete towards the end as it should be, two entries were rolled into one. >How-To-Repeat: >Fix: --- chapter.sgml.old Thu Dec 20 20:00:39 2001 +++ chapter.sgml Thu Dec 20 20:06:14 2001 @@ -535,10 +535,19 @@ dumpfreq - The number of days the filesystem should be - dumped, and passno is the pass number - during which the filesystem is checked during the boot - sequence. + This is used by dump to determine which + filesystems require dumping. If the field is missing, + a value of zero is assumed. + + + + + passno + + This determines the order in which filesystems + should be checked. The root filesystem should be set to one, + other filesystems to two, and filesystems that should be + skipped set to zero. >Release-Note: >Audit-Trail: >Unformatted: To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Thu Dec 20 17:20: 9 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 28D6937B416 for ; Thu, 20 Dec 2001 17:20:01 -0800 (PST) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) id fBL1K1e12372; Thu, 20 Dec 2001 17:20:01 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gnats) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AE88337B405 for ; Thu, 20 Dec 2001 17:10:31 -0800 (PST) Received: (from nobody@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) id fBL1AVF11619; Thu, 20 Dec 2001 17:10:31 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from nobody) Message-Id: <200112210110.fBL1AVF11619@freefall.freebsd.org> Date: Thu, 20 Dec 2001 17:10:31 -0800 (PST) From: Ashley Penney To: freebsd-gnats-submit@freebsd.org X-Send-Pr-Version: www-1.0 Subject: docs/33044: Minor changes to Chapter 5 of the handbook. Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org >Number: 33044 >Category: docs >Synopsis: Minor changes to Chapter 5 of the handbook. >Confidential: no >Severity: non-critical >Priority: low >Responsible: freebsd-doc >State: open >Quarter: >Keywords: >Date-Required: >Class: doc-bug >Submitter-Id: current-users >Arrival-Date: Thu Dec 20 17:20:01 PST 2001 >Closed-Date: >Last-Modified: >Originator: Ashley Penney >Release: N/A >Organization: N/A >Environment: >Description: DefaultColorDepth became just DefaultDepth in XFree86 4.X, which is what is being documented here. >How-To-Repeat: >Fix: --- chapter.sgml.old Thu Dec 20 20:10:34 2001 +++ chapter.sgml Thu Dec 20 20:10:27 2001 @@ -420,14 +420,14 @@ Identifier "Screen0" Device "Card0" Monitor "Monitor0" - DefaultColorDepth 24 + DefaultDepth 24 SubSection "Display" Depth 24 Modes "1024x768" EndSubSection EndSection - The DefaultColorDepth keyword describes + The DefaultDepth keyword describes the color depth to run at by default. This can be overridden with the -bpp command line switch to &man.XFree86.1; @@ -440,7 +440,7 @@ To run at a resolution of one thousand twenty four pixels by seven hundred sixty eight pixels at twenty four bits per pixel, - then add the DefaultColorDepth keyword with the + then add the DefaultDepth keyword with the value of twenty four, and add to the "Display" subsection with the desired Depth the Modes keyword with the resolution the user wishes to run at. 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    To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Thu Dec 20 20:25:36 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from pittgoth.com (14.zlnp1.xdsl.nauticom.net [209.195.149.111]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BF6F937B417; Thu, 20 Dec 2001 20:25:33 -0800 (PST) Received: from blah (zbay5-32.fyi.net [206.80.158.32]) by pittgoth.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id fBL4Q7D79366; Thu, 20 Dec 2001 23:26:08 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from darklogik@pittgoth.com) From: darklogik@pittgoth.com To: Nik Clayton Date: Thu, 20 Dec 2001 23:28:36 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: Re: should i be using sgml or xml? Cc: FreeBSD-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Message-ID: <3C227424.19255.DCE84@localhost> In-reply-to: <20011220235225.I51511@clan.nothing-going-on.org> References: <20011220093411.A48837@elvis.mu.org>; from bright@mu.org on Thu, Dec 20, 2001 at 09:34:11AM -0600 X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v3.12c) Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org So there is a way to just "make" if you will, an xml formatted file, if so do we have it documented? 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Reply-To: Vladimir Tchoukharev Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org The following reply was made to PR docs/33042; it has been noted by GNATS. From: Vladimir Tchoukharev To: freebsd-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.ORG Cc: Subject: Re: docs/33042: Minor changes to Chapter 2 of the handbook. Date: Fri, 21 Dec 2001 10:30:54 +0200 Ashley Penney wrote: > > >Number: 33042 > >Category: docs > >Synopsis: Minor changes to Chapter 2 of the handbook. > @@ -4394,6 +4394,9 @@ > has been issued and the message "Please press any key to reboot" > appears. If any key is pressed instead of turning off the power > switch, the system will reboot. > + > + You may also reboot the system by pressing control-alt-delete > + from the keyboard. This can be understood as general way of rebooting, and give rise to questions why it does not work with e.g. xdm login window on the screen. IMHO some words about console are needed. V. Tchoukharev To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Fri Dec 21 1:37:25 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from trinity.jamiesdomain.org.uk (trinity.jamiesdomain.org.uk [62.49.217.114]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 993CF37B416 for ; Fri, 21 Dec 2001 01:37:21 -0800 (PST) Received: from goliath (goliath.jamiesdomain.org.uk [62.49.217.120]) by trinity.jamiesdomain.org.uk (8.11.4/8.11.4) with SMTP id fBL9Xwa13443; Fri, 21 Dec 2001 09:33:58 GMT (envelope-from jamie@jamiesdomain.org.uk) Message-ID: <001101c18a02$db9187c0$78d9313e@jamiesdomain.org.uk> From: "Jamie Heckford" To: "Wouter Van Hemel" Cc: References: Subject: Re: Chapter 11 - Storage Date: Fri, 21 Dec 2001 09:35:39 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org pfft... sorry! Im not offended in the slightest, and definatly opposed to censorship! My point was I read it, and thought I should let you guys know incase somewhere like slashdot picks it up. You know that some people would go OTT and twist the truth... I don't care if it stays IMHO. No flames please! :-) ----- Original Message ----- From: "Wouter Van Hemel" To: "Bruce A. Mah" Cc: ; "Jamie Heckford" ; Sent: Thursday, December 20, 2001 11:45 PM Subject: Re: Chapter 11 - Storage > On Thu, 20 Dec 2001, Bruce A. Mah wrote: > > > The example of the World Trade Center is a good one. I think it should > > stay unless it is replaced with another concrete example of the need for > > "really off-site" backups. If you want to reword it to make it less > > blunt, that's fine too. > > > > It's disturbing to think about the events of September 11, but anyone > > who feels that fault tolerance and disaster recovery is important would > > be a fool not to study this incident and learn from it. > > > > I agree. I personally don't see anything in the message that is offensive. > I really think the backup's kept there are broken now. :) > > And everybody knows about the WTC, which makes this a good (if not > overdone) example. Extreme things can happen, either by human action, or > -more likely- by disasters of nature. > > How exactly does this show lack of respect for the loss of life? > > Furthermore, and without the intention of making this a flame war, I > also believe being easy offended is at least as much a problem of the > receiver. If we always have to keep the documentation and our language > suitable for the most meek and weak, we're not democratic, and it won't > make the docs more interesting either. > > The comment is in place, is correct, and a good example. 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    -1011 --------------------------------------------------------------------------- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Fri Dec 21 2:57:28 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (pc-62-31-42-140-hy.blueyonder.co.uk [62.31.42.140]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D3A8D37B419; Fri, 21 Dec 2001 02:57:23 -0800 (PST) Received: (from nik@localhost) by nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) id fBLAVww99345; Fri, 21 Dec 2001 10:31:58 GMT (envelope-from nik) Date: Fri, 21 Dec 2001 10:31:58 +0000 From: Nik Clayton To: darklogik@pittgoth.com Cc: Nik Clayton , FreeBSD-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: should i be using sgml or xml? Message-ID: <20011221103158.N51511@clan.nothing-going-on.org> References: <20011220093411.A48837@elvis.mu.org>; <20011220235225.I51511@clan.nothing-going-on.org> <3C227424.19255.DCE84@localhost> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-md5; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="VnOTrGv5LmZxna7m" Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <3C227424.19255.DCE84@localhost>; from darklogik@pittgoth.com on Thu, Dec 20, 2001 at 11:28:36PM -0500 Organization: FreeBSD Project Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org --VnOTrGv5LmZxna7m Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Thu, Dec 20, 2001 at 11:28:36PM -0500, darklogik@pittgoth.com wrote: > So there is a way to just "make" if you will, an xml formatted file, if= =20 > so do we have it documented? You need: 1. An SGML file. Call it "book.sgml" 2. A file that contains the DOCTYPE line you want to go at the start of the generated XML file. Call it "doctype", and make sure it has this line as it's only content: 3. The following variable defined: CATALOGS=3D /usr/local/share/sgml/docbook/dsssl/modular/catalog CATALOGS+=3D /usr/local/share/sgml/docbook/catalog CATALOGS+=3D /usr/local/share/sgml/jade/catalog CATALOGS+=3D /usr/local/share/sgml/iso8879/catalog CATALOGS+=3D /usr/local/share/xml/docbook/catalog You can then write the following Makefile fragment to do the conversion: book.xml: book.sgml cp doctype book.xml sx ${CATALOGS:C/^/-c /g} -xlower -xndata book.sgm | \ tail -n +2 >> book.xml We could add this to the doc/share/*.mk files relatively easily, except for the dependence on the XML catalog file (which could be added to the docproj meta-port). Thoughts? N --=20 FreeBSD: The Power to Serve http://www.freebsd.org/ FreeBSD Documentation Project http://www.freebsd.org/docproj/ --- 15B8 3FFC DDB4 34B0 AA5F 94B7 93A8 0764 2C37 E375 --- --VnOTrGv5LmZxna7m Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (FreeBSD) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iEYEARECAAYFAjwjD50ACgkQk6gHZCw343WuxgCghd2qh+9qkrft9/UEkab9WmBi XtwAn1ifatMWnkdThB4F9g8J6BpaAvjo =cCrq -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --VnOTrGv5LmZxna7m-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Fri Dec 21 4:33:39 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from blueyonder.co.uk (pcow029o.blueyonder.co.uk [195.188.53.123]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 412BC37B416; Fri, 21 Dec 2001 04:33:36 -0800 (PST) Received: from pcow029o.blueyonder.co.uk ([127.0.0.1]) by blueyonder.co.uk with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.757.75); Fri, 21 Dec 2001 12:28:08 +0000 Received: from fluoxetine.lan (unverified) by pcow029o.blueyonder.co.uk (Content Technologies SMTPRS 4.2.5) with ESMTP id ; Fri, 21 Dec 2001 12:28:08 +0000 Date: Fri, 21 Dec 2001 12:31:03 +0000 (GMT) From: Andrew McKay X-Sender: andy@fluoxetine.lan To: Nik Clayton Cc: darklogik@pittgoth.com, FreeBSD-doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: should i be using sgml or xml? In-Reply-To: <20011221103158.N51511@clan.nothing-going-on.org> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Fri, 21 Dec 2001, Nik Clayton wrote: NC> We could add this to the doc/share/*.mk files relatively easily, except NC> for the dependence on the XML catalog file (which could be added to the NC> docproj meta-port). NC> NC> Thoughts? My thoughts, for what they are worth, are that I can see a small advantage in having XML as a potential doc output format, although I have yet to work out what advantage XML has over HTML for this kind of work. I don't really see a disadvantage (I doubt this bloats the toolchain significantly) and it does seem that the world is moving slowly towards XML being the defacto standard for everything. Perhaps now is the time to start playing around with it. After all, by your timescale, there are > 18 months to play :) Incidentally, I was amused, and somewhat irritated, to find that Office 2k outputs XML with a .html extension when you choose 'save as HTML'. I do wish software wouldn't lie about what it is doing... -- Andrew McKay To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Fri Dec 21 7:14:57 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from pittgoth.com (14.zlnp1.xdsl.nauticom.net [209.195.149.111]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9487637B405; Fri, 21 Dec 2001 07:14:54 -0800 (PST) Received: from oemcomputer (lcl234.zbzoom.net [208.236.36.234]) by pittgoth.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id fBLFFPD80380; Fri, 21 Dec 2001 10:15:25 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from darklogik@pittgoth.com) From: darklogik@pittgoth.com To: Nik Clayton Date: Fri, 21 Dec 2001 10:21:23 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: Re: should i be using sgml or xml? Cc: Nik Clayton , FreeBSD-doc@freebsd.org Message-ID: <3C230D23.18520.D966CC1@localhost> In-reply-to: <20011221103158.N51511@clan.nothing-going-on.org> References: <3C227424.19255.DCE84@localhost>; from darklogik@pittgoth.com on Thu, Dec 20, 2001 at 11:28:36PM -0500 X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v3.12c) Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org But as its been pointed out on this list, we really do not need to do anything with xml, its nice to know whats involved though. Someone may wish to try out the xml. More or less it is mainly up to you about what we should be using. If XML will the "standard" in so long, maybe the convert would be appropriate. My only real question now is, would it make the documentation process more difficult for everyone, or increase their workload at all, if so then I see no real use. However, if it makes things easier for everyone, maybe cuts some time from the amount of work we need to do, then it should definatly be evaulated, direction wise... Just my opinion, let us get some more! Thanks Tom Rhodes http://www.pittgoth.com Dark Portal Project http://www.FreeBSD.org FreeBSD Project To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Fri Dec 21 7:19:26 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from pittgoth.com (14.zlnp1.xdsl.nauticom.net [209.195.149.111]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8A3F637B41B for ; Fri, 21 Dec 2001 07:19:24 -0800 (PST) Received: from oemcomputer (lcl234.zbzoom.net [208.236.36.234]) by pittgoth.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id fBLFK0D80393 for ; Fri, 21 Dec 2001 10:20:01 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from darklogik@pittgoth.com) From: darklogik@pittgoth.com To: FreeBSD-doc@freebsd.org Date: Fri, 21 Dec 2001 10:25:59 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: Handbook -- KernelConfig chapter, ideas? Message-ID: <3C230E37.25363.D9AA223@localhost> X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v3.12c) Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Recently, looking over the "LINT" file, I have noticed the kernel configuration chapter of the handbook could use a touch up. Some options documented in LINT could leave a user wondering "Do I need this option, is it worth it, will it decrease the usage". I was planning on taking it a little bit more in depth with the kernel configuration chapter, and wanted to know everyones responce... Thanks Tom Rhodes http://www.pittgoth.com Dark Portal Project http://www.FreeBSD.org FreeBSD Project To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Fri Dec 21 8:12:21 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from riffraff.plig.net (riffraff.plig.net [195.40.6.40]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3657837B428 for ; Fri, 21 Dec 2001 08:11:58 -0800 (PST) Received: by riffraff.plig.net (Postfix, from userid 3010) id 9FDE147C37; Fri, 21 Dec 2001 16:11:56 +0000 (GMT) Date: Fri, 21 Dec 2001 16:11:56 +0000 From: Marc Silver To: Martin Heinen Cc: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: [martin@sumuk.de: Question 6.3 of 'Dialup firewalling with FreeBSD'] Message-ID: <20011221161156.H81312@draenor.org> References: <20011221170234.A20727@sumuk.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <20011221170234.A20727@sumuk.de>; from martin@sumuk.de on Fri, Dec 21, 2001 at 05:02:35PM +0100 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi there, On Fri, Dec 21, 2001 at 05:02:35PM +0100, Martin Heinen wrote: > Hi Marc, > > forgot to CC you in my original posting to -doc :( > Any comments on my proposal? > > Martin > > ----- Forwarded message from Martin Heinen ----- > > Date: Tue, 18 Dec 2001 14:28:30 +0100 > From: Martin Heinen > To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG > Subject: Question 6.3 of 'Dialup firewalling with FreeBSD' > Reply-To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG > User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i > > The answer to question 6.3 in 'Dialup firewalling with FreeBSD' > states that it is impossible to filter RFC-1918 addresses on > the outside interface. Ok, it states 'The simple answer is no.', > but the article should provide a long answer. I don't agree with you. If this article weren't for novice users then I would agree that the answer needs to expanded. However, the purpose of the document (and the very reason I wrote it) was to create a simple guide. I do not feel it is necessary to provide a long answer, since it's more than likely that more experienced users will not be using this article. :) However, > Possible solutions: > 3) We could refer the reader to /etc/rc.firewall but this seems to > circumvent the purpose of the article. I could most certainly add a reference to /etc/rc.firewall from this document for users who are interested, though I do not feel it's necessary. How does everyone else feel? - Marc p.s. 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TEL./FAX: +7(095) 797-04-82, 797-04-08, 107-78-58 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Fri Dec 21 11:59:59 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from lists.blarg.net (lists.blarg.net [206.124.128.17]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0BAD037B416 for ; Fri, 21 Dec 2001 11:59:52 -0800 (PST) Received: from thig.blarg.net (thig.blarg.net [206.124.128.18]) by lists.blarg.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 05AA1BD3C; Fri, 21 Dec 2001 11:59:51 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost.localdomain ([206.124.139.115]) by thig.blarg.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA12740; Fri, 21 Dec 2001 11:59:50 -0800 Received: (from jojo@localhost) by localhost.localdomain (8.11.6/8.11.3) id fBLK0Fm67184; Fri, 21 Dec 2001 12:00:16 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from swear@blarg.net) To: Andrew McKay Cc: FreeBSD-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: should i be using sgml or xml? References: From: swear@blarg.net (Gary W. Swearingen) Date: 21 Dec 2001 12:00:15 -0800 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Lines: 19 User-Agent: Gnus/5.0808 (Gnus v5.8.8) XEmacs/21.1 (Cuyahoga Valley) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Andrew McKay writes: > My thoughts, for what they are worth, are that I can see a small advantage > in having XML as a potential doc output format, although I have yet to > work out what advantage XML has over HTML for this kind of work. Please excuse me if this is slightly off-topic (I'm not sure if I understand the topic exactly), but a few months ago I used "tidy" to convert my small web site to XHTML on the understanding (IIRC) that it was XML that all recent browsers would render reasonably well (for simple stuff like I have anyway). ; Fri, 21 Dec 2001 13:37:42 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <20011221213742.27584.qmail@web21109.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [62.254.0.5] by web21109.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Fri, 21 Dec 2001 13:37:42 PST Date: Fri, 21 Dec 2001 13:37:42 -0800 (PST) From: Hiten Pandya Subject: [NEW FAQ] Migrating from Linux to FreeBSD To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org hello all, merry christmas and a happy new year to you all! I sent a mail to Annalise Anderson, asking about the FAQ about 'migrating from Linux to FreeBSD'. I asked if I could use the Linux to FreeBSD FAQ to produce an updated and completely re-wamped version of it for the -doc project. I got the reply saying that, I can use the content, but the answers on it are given by many people on from -doc mailing list and I will need to ask here on the mailing list. I was wondering if I could use that content to produce a new FAQ for the -doc project. Please send me your comments and suggestions. Thank You, regards, =Hiten = ===== SSH Fingerprint: 1024 45:a5:9c:f2:fb:07:da:70:18:02:0b:f3:63:f1:7a:a6 hitenp@hpdi.ath.cx __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Send your FREE holiday greetings online! http://greetings.yahoo.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Fri Dec 21 13:59:44 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from pittgoth.com (14.zlnp1.xdsl.nauticom.net [209.195.149.111]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4D13A37B405 for ; Fri, 21 Dec 2001 13:59:42 -0800 (PST) Received: from oemcomputer (lcl234.zbzoom.net [208.236.36.234]) by pittgoth.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id fBLLxsD80832; Fri, 21 Dec 2001 16:59:55 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from darklogik@pittgoth.com) From: darklogik@pittgoth.com To: Hiten Pandya Date: Fri, 21 Dec 2001 17:05:55 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: Re: [NEW FAQ] Migrating from Linux to FreeBSD Cc: FreeBSD-doc@freebsd.org Message-ID: <3C236BF3.31469.F08D657@localhost> In-reply-to: <20011221213742.27584.qmail@web21109.mail.yahoo.com> X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v3.12c) Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org HP>I got the reply saying that, I can use the content, HP>but HP>the answers on it are given by many people on from HP>-doc mailing list and I will need to ask here on the HP>mailing list. In taking a side earily on, I belive that since it is a faq, that will be contributed to the docproject, and the answers are from the docproject, then that would make both property of the docproject and therfore make this totally proper. Now, I can imagine giving you a hard time if you were not NOT GIVING it to the docproject lol. But as a donation, I don't see why not Tom Rhodes http://www.pittgoth.com Dark Portal Project http://www.FreeBSD.org FreeBSD Project To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Fri Dec 21 15:30:55 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from andrsn.stanford.edu (andrsn.Stanford.EDU [171.66.112.163]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6302737B419 for ; Fri, 21 Dec 2001 15:30:52 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (andrsn@localhost.stanford.edu [127.0.0.1]) by andrsn.stanford.edu (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id PAA46429; Fri, 21 Dec 2001 15:17:21 -0800 (PST) Date: Fri, 21 Dec 2001 15:17:20 -0800 (PST) From: Annelise Anderson To: Hiten Pandya Cc: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: [NEW FAQ] Migrating from Linux to FreeBSD In-Reply-To: <20011221213742.27584.qmail@web21109.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Fri, 21 Dec 2001, Hiten Pandya wrote: > hello all, > merry christmas and a happy new year to you all! > > I sent a mail to Annalise Anderson, asking about > the FAQ about 'migrating from Linux to FreeBSD'. I > asked if I could use the Linux to FreeBSD FAQ to > produce an updated and completely re-wamped version of > it for the -doc project. > > I got the reply saying that, I can use the content, > but > the answers on it are given by many people on from > -doc mailing list and I will need to ask here on the > mailing list. > > I was wondering if I could use that content to produce > a new FAQ for the -doc project. Please send me your > comments and suggestions. > > Thank You, > regards, > > =Hiten > = > The "answers" are a bunch of stuff people sent me in email. They've never been publicly posted as I was trying to edit them. I cn try to find them and send them--maybe here as one big document--and let whoever wants to take this over. Annelise -- Annelise Anderson Author of: FreeBSD: An Open-Source Operating System for Your PC Available from: BSDmall.com and amazon.com Book Website: http://www.bittreepress.com/FreeBSD/introbook/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Fri Dec 21 16:29:59 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1FEFF37B417; Fri, 21 Dec 2001 16:29:56 -0800 (PST) Received: (from chern@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) id fBM0PZj06378; Fri, 21 Dec 2001 16:25:35 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from chern) Date: Fri, 21 Dec 2001 16:25:35 -0800 (PST) From: Message-Id: <200112220025.fBM0PZj06378@freefall.freebsd.org> To: gjc@invetech.com.au, chern@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: docs/32921: Dead URL in FreeBSD FAQ Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Synopsis: Dead URL in FreeBSD FAQ State-Changed-From-To: open->closed State-Changed-By: chern State-Changed-When: Fri Dec 21 16:24:31 PST 2001 State-Changed-Why: VistaSource makes the FreeBSD port of Applixware, but FreeBSD Mall distributes it with their Desktop Edition package. I've updated the sentence, removing the broken link. Thanks! http://www.FreeBSD.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=32921 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Fri Dec 21 16:40: 8 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2525937B405 for ; Fri, 21 Dec 2001 16:40:03 -0800 (PST) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) id fBM0e2Z07763; Fri, 21 Dec 2001 16:40:02 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gnats) Date: Fri, 21 Dec 2001 16:40:02 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <200112220040.fBM0e2Z07763@freefall.freebsd.org> To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Cc: From: Chern Lee Subject: Re: docs/32578: A _really_ petty change to the front page of the website Reply-To: Chern Lee Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org The following reply was made to PR docs/32578; it has been noted by GNATS. From: Chern Lee To: Ceri Cc: Subject: Re: docs/32578: A _really_ petty change to the front page of the website Date: Fri, 21 Dec 2001 16:35:32 -0800 (PST) I'm not sure if I follow what you are trying to say... (FreeBSD can) run a huge variety of applications. This makes perfect sense. But these are not complete sentence, just fragments. (FreeBSD) runs a huge variety of applications. - makes sense As a fragment, both run and runs make sense, because they can be prefixed with something to make it complete. I think it's fine the way it is. - chern On Fri, 7 Dec 2001, Ceri wrote: > The bulletpoint list on the home page of www.FreeBSD.org contains a list of > some of the good points regarding FreeBSD. > > I believe that one of them therefore contains a grammatical error. > Consider the implied notions : > > 1. (FreeBSD has) Cutting edge features > 2. (FreeBSD has) Powerful Internet solutions > 3. (FreeBSD can) Run a huge a variety of applications > 4. (FreeBSD is) Easy to install > > I don't like number 3. > > Ceri > > >How-To-Repeat: > Visit http://www.FreeBSD.org in a browser. > >Fix: > > --- www/en/index.xsl.old Fri Dec 7 14:29:23 2001 > +++ www/en/index.xsl Fri Dec 7 14:33:16 2001 > @@ -250,7 +250,7 @@ > gallery for examples of > FreeBSD powered applications and services.

    > > -

    Run a huge variety of > +

    Runs a huge variety of > applications

    > >

    The quality of FreeBSD combined with today's low-cost, > >Release-Note: > >Audit-Trail: > >Unformatted: > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Fri Dec 21 17:19: 6 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mail5.speakeasy.net (mail5.speakeasy.net [216.254.0.205]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C1F0337B421 for ; Fri, 21 Dec 2001 17:18:53 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 7661 invoked from network); 22 Dec 2001 01:18:52 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO laptop.baldwin.cx) ([64.81.54.73]) (envelope-sender ) by mail5.speakeasy.net (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for ; 22 Dec 2001 01:18:52 -0000 Message-ID: X-Mailer: XFMail 1.4.0 on FreeBSD X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <200112220040.fBM0e2Z07763@freefall.freebsd.org> Date: Fri, 21 Dec 2001 17:18:34 -0800 (PST) From: John Baldwin To: Chern Lee Subject: Re: docs/32578: A _really_ petty change to the front page of the Cc: , freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On 22-Dec-01 Chern Lee wrote: > The following reply was made to PR docs/32578; it has been noted by GNATS. > > From: Chern Lee > To: Ceri > Cc: > Subject: Re: docs/32578: A _really_ petty change to the front page of the > website > Date: Fri, 21 Dec 2001 16:35:32 -0800 (PST) > > I'm not sure if I follow what you are trying to say... > > (FreeBSD can) run a huge variety of applications. This makes perfect > sense. But these are not complete sentence, just fragments. > > (FreeBSD) runs a huge variety of applications. - makes sense > > As a fragment, both run and runs make sense, because they can be prefixed > with something to make it complete. > > I think it's fine the way it is. Hmm, I find them awkward for a different reason: 1, 2, and 4 don't start with a verb, which is what makes this awkard. Nevertheless, after re-reading the page, I read #3 more as the reader can use FreeBSD to run a huge variety of applications, and for the implied you, the verb is correct. If there was someway to restate #3 so as not to use a verb, I think I would prefer that, but I can't think of a clean way of doing that atm. Well, one way might be to be explicit and say "FreeBSD has ...", "FreeBSD can implement...", "FreeBSD can...", "FreeBSD is...". -- John Baldwin <>< http://www.FreeBSD.org/~jhb/ "Power Users Use the Power to Serve!" - http://www.FreeBSD.org/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Fri Dec 21 17:30: 7 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F387137B417 for ; Fri, 21 Dec 2001 17:30:02 -0800 (PST) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) id fBM1U2Z16768; Fri, 21 Dec 2001 17:30:02 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gnats) Date: Fri, 21 Dec 2001 17:30:02 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <200112220130.fBM1U2Z16768@freefall.freebsd.org> To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Cc: From: John Baldwin Subject: Re: docs/32578: A _really_ petty change to the front page of Reply-To: John Baldwin Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org The following reply was made to PR docs/32578; it has been noted by GNATS. From: John Baldwin To: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.ORG Cc: Subject: Re: docs/32578: A _really_ petty change to the front page of Date: Fri, 21 Dec 2001 17:26:40 -0800 (PST) On 22-Dec-01 Chern Lee wrote: > The following reply was made to PR docs/32578; it has been noted by GNATS. > > From: Chern Lee > To: Ceri > Cc: > Subject: Re: docs/32578: A _really_ petty change to the front page of the > website > Date: Fri, 21 Dec 2001 16:35:32 -0800 (PST) > > I'm not sure if I follow what you are trying to say... > > (FreeBSD can) run a huge variety of applications. This makes perfect > sense. But these are not complete sentence, just fragments. > > (FreeBSD) runs a huge variety of applications. - makes sense > > As a fragment, both run and runs make sense, because they can be prefixed > with something to make it complete. > > I think it's fine the way it is. Hmm, I find them awkward for a different reason: 1, 2, and 4 don't start with a verb, which is what makes this awkard. Nevertheless, after re-reading the page, I read #3 more as the reader can use FreeBSD to run a huge variety of applications, and for the implied you, the verb is correct. If there was someway to restate #3 so as not to use a verb, I think I would prefer that, but I can't think of a clean way of doing that atm. Well, one way might be to be explicit and say "FreeBSD has ...", "FreeBSD can implement...", "FreeBSD can...", "FreeBSD is...". -- John Baldwin <>< http://www.FreeBSD.org/~jhb/ "Power Users Use the Power to Serve!" - http://www.FreeBSD.org/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Fri Dec 21 17:49:58 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3F7EA37B416; Fri, 21 Dec 2001 17:49:56 -0800 (PST) Received: (from chern@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) id fBM1h9Q21605; Fri, 21 Dec 2001 17:43:09 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from chern) Date: Fri, 21 Dec 2001 17:43:09 -0800 (PST) From: Message-Id: <200112220143.fBM1h9Q21605@freefall.freebsd.org> To: setantae@submonkey.net, chern@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: docs/32381: [PATCH] Handbook section on chrooting named is not correct Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Synopsis: [PATCH] Handbook section on chrooting named is not correct State-Changed-From-To: open->closed State-Changed-By: chern State-Changed-When: Fri Dec 21 17:41:56 PST 2001 State-Changed-Why: Committed a heavily markup-modified/fixed version to revision 1.113 of the advanced networking chapter. This is much more comprehensive than what was there before, thanks! http://www.FreeBSD.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=32381 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Fri Dec 21 17:58:50 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from ns2.sybor.com (lanip068.AlphaTechComp-gw.bel.avistacom.net [216.229.164.68]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 76E0237B419 for ; Fri, 21 Dec 2001 17:58:47 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (cam@localhost) by ns2.sybor.com (8.10.2/8.10.2) with ESMTP id fBM1pMa18992 for ; Fri, 21 Dec 2001 17:51:22 -0800 Date: Fri, 21 Dec 2001 17:51:21 -0800 (PST) From: "Cameron S. Watters" X-X-Sender: To: Subject: Re: [NEW FAQ] Migrating from Linux to FreeBSD In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > > I sent a mail to Annalise Anderson, asking about > > the FAQ about 'migrating from Linux to FreeBSD'. I > > asked if I could use the Linux to FreeBSD FAQ to > > produce an updated and completely re-wamped version of > > it for the -doc project. Hmm... Having just received from Annalise a similar response to a similar question, I'd like to offer to help (in any capacity) with any effort to documenting the differences between Linux and FreeBSD for (former?) Linux users (or potential users) considering/making the switch to FreeBSD. Actually, I'd be happy to help with anything, but having recently made the switch, I know of a great many things that would've made such a move easier for me. Incidently, is it generally agreed that a document of this nature should be developed? There has been some disagreement in the past about the appropriateness of documentation that involved Linux and I wonder if a document like this is considered appropriate? -c Cameron S. Watters | cam@h2os.org | http://www.h2os.org/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Fri Dec 21 18:50: 4 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 418BB37B405 for ; Fri, 21 Dec 2001 18:50:01 -0800 (PST) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) id fBM2o1C32595; Fri, 21 Dec 2001 18:50:01 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gnats) Date: Fri, 21 Dec 2001 18:50:01 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <200112220250.fBM2o1C32595@freefall.freebsd.org> To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Cc: From: Murray Stokely Subject: Re: docs/33042: Minor changes to Chapter 2 of the handbook. Reply-To: Murray Stokely Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org The following reply was made to PR docs/33042; it has been noted by GNATS. From: Murray Stokely To: Ashley Penney Cc: freebsd-gnats-submit@freebsd.org Subject: Re: docs/33042: Minor changes to Chapter 2 of the handbook. Date: Fri, 21 Dec 2001 18:43:12 -0800 On Thu, Dec 20, 2001 at 04:54:35PM -0800, Ashley Penney wrote: > + > + You may also reboot the system by pressing control-alt-delete > + from the keyboard. We should use tags around keyboard commands. We use this in many places in the Handbook, and where we don't use it, its a bug. - Murray To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Fri Dec 21 22: 0: 8 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A70AF37B419 for ; Fri, 21 Dec 2001 22:00:01 -0800 (PST) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) id fBM601E57331; Fri, 21 Dec 2001 22:00:01 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gnats) Received: from segfault.monkeys.com (246.dsl6660157.rstatic.surewest.net [66.60.157.246]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1D38237B416 for ; Fri, 21 Dec 2001 21:56:31 -0800 (PST) Received: by segfault.monkeys.com (Postfix, from userid 1237) id AE4296399; Fri, 21 Dec 2001 21:56:25 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <20011222055625.AE4296399@segfault.monkeys.com> Date: Fri, 21 Dec 2001 21:56:25 -0800 (PST) From: rfg@monkeys.com Reply-To: rfg@monkeys.com To: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@freebsd.org X-Send-Pr-Version: 3.113 Subject: docs/33081: send(2) sometimes yields ECONNREFUSED, but it's not documented Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org >Number: 33081 >Category: docs >Synopsis: send(2) sometimes yields ECONNREFUSED, but it's not documented >Confidential: no >Severity: non-critical >Priority: low >Responsible: freebsd-doc >State: open >Quarter: >Keywords: >Date-Required: >Class: doc-bug >Submitter-Id: current-users >Arrival-Date: Fri Dec 21 22:00:01 PST 2001 >Closed-Date: >Last-Modified: >Originator: Ronald F. Guilmette >Release: FreeBSD 4.3-RELEASE i386 >Organization: Infinite Monkeys & Co. >Environment: FreeBSD 4.3-RELEASE >Description: Using send(2) on a previously connected DGRAM socket, I am getting an error result with error set to ECONNREFUSED, but this possible result isn't documented on the send(2) man page. >How-To-Repeat: Create a DGRAM socket and connect it to some host/port that doesn't have anything bound to that port, and that has nothing which will be listening for incoming UDP datagrams on that port. Then just use send(2) to try to send a packet to that host/port and check errno afterwards. >Fix: Edit the ERRORS section of the send(2) man page to indicate that an ECONNREFUSED value in errno is a possible outcome of a call to send(2) (and maybe also the other functions described on this page). >Release-Note: >Audit-Trail: >Unformatted: To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sat Dec 22 2:30:10 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (pc-62-31-42-140-hy.blueyonder.co.uk [62.31.42.140]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8EAEB37B419 for ; Sat, 22 Dec 2001 02:30:04 -0800 (PST) Received: (from nik@localhost) by nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) id fBMA4Yn17889; Sat, 22 Dec 2001 10:04:34 GMT (envelope-from nik) Date: Sat, 22 Dec 2001 10:04:34 +0000 From: Nik Clayton To: "Cameron S. Watters" Cc: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: [NEW FAQ] Migrating from Linux to FreeBSD Message-ID: <20011222100434.U51511@clan.nothing-going-on.org> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-md5; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="l/3WCmqZNZ+BnHMk" Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: ; from cam@h2os.org on Fri, Dec 21, 2001 at 05:51:21PM -0800 Organization: FreeBSD Project Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org --l/3WCmqZNZ+BnHMk Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Fri, Dec 21, 2001 at 05:51:21PM -0800, Cameron S. Watters wrote: > Incidently, is it generally agreed that a document of this nature should > be developed? There has been some disagreement in the past about the > appropriateness of documentation that involved Linux and I wonder if a > document like this is considered appropriate? Yes it is. We seem to get a lot of Linux users that migrate over, so something like this would be very useful. N --=20 FreeBSD: The Power to Serve http://www.freebsd.org/ FreeBSD Documentation Project http://www.freebsd.org/docproj/ --- 15B8 3FFC DDB4 34B0 AA5F 94B7 93A8 0764 2C37 E375 --- --l/3WCmqZNZ+BnHMk Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (FreeBSD) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iEYEARECAAYFAjwkWrIACgkQk6gHZCw343WDzQCeJpq3mMYZYU+RmHri7XKF6seH oX0An0Sj9G4/fDCsQlSoPQhZSzAkvWvw =xVvW -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --l/3WCmqZNZ+BnHMk-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sat Dec 22 2:47:14 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from web21106.mail.yahoo.com (web21106.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.227.108]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id B40C237B41A for ; Sat, 22 Dec 2001 02:47:11 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <20011222104711.55284.qmail@web21106.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [62.254.0.5] by web21106.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sat, 22 Dec 2001 02:47:11 PST Date: Sat, 22 Dec 2001 02:47:11 -0800 (PST) From: Hiten Pandya Subject: Re: [NEW FAQ] Migrating from Linux to FreeBSD To: Nik Clayton Cc: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <20011222100434.U51511@clan.nothing-going-on.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org --- Nik Clayton wrote: > On Fri, Dec 21, 2001 at 05:51:21PM -0800, Cameron S. > Watters wrote: > > Incidently, is it generally agreed that a document > of this nature should > > be developed? There has been some disagreement in > the past about the > > appropriateness of documentation that involved > Linux and I wonder if a > > document like this is considered appropriate? > > Yes it is. We seem to get a lot of Linux users that > migrate over, so > something like this would be very useful. cool, I will try and get as much possible information and get this sorted by the first two weeks of new year cheers, =Hiten = ===== SSH Fingerprint: 1024 45:a5:9c:f2:fb:07:da:70:18:02:0b:f3:63:f1:7a:a6 hitenp@hpdi.ath.cx __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Send your FREE holiday greetings online! http://greetings.yahoo.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sat Dec 22 2:50:49 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from web21105.mail.yahoo.com (web21105.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.227.107]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 45B6D37B405 for ; Sat, 22 Dec 2001 02:50:47 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <20011222105046.46788.qmail@web21105.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [62.254.0.5] by web21105.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sat, 22 Dec 2001 02:50:46 PST Date: Sat, 22 Dec 2001 02:50:46 -0800 (PST) From: Hiten Pandya Subject: Re: docs/33042: Minor changes to Chapter 2 of the handbook. To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org [ discarded output ] - [PATCH] I will try and get it sorted by the start of the new year and before the other handbook release. cheers, =Hiten = ===== SSH Fingerprint: 1024 45:a5:9c:f2:fb:07:da:70:18:02:0b:f3:63:f1:7a:a6 hitenp@hpdi.ath.cx __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Send your FREE holiday greetings online! http://greetings.yahoo.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sat Dec 22 2:58:24 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (pc-62-31-42-140-hy.blueyonder.co.uk [62.31.42.140]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 77F1337B41B; Sat, 22 Dec 2001 02:58:19 -0800 (PST) Received: (from nik@localhost) by nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) id fBMAdJh17964; Sat, 22 Dec 2001 10:39:19 GMT (envelope-from nik) Date: Sat, 22 Dec 2001 10:39:19 +0000 From: Nik Clayton To: Mario Sergio Fujikawa Ferreira Cc: Murray Stokely , nik@FreeBSD.org, asmodai@FreeBSD.org, doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Glossary sgml handling? ? Message-ID: <20011222103919.V51511@clan.nothing-going-on.org> References: <200112220250.fBM2o1C32595@freefall.freebsd.org> <20011222032053.76377.qmail@exxodus.fedaykin.here> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-md5; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="yC91f7qSViS67v3c" Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <20011222032053.76377.qmail@exxodus.fedaykin.here>; from lioux@FreeBSD.org on Sat, Dec 22, 2001 at 01:20:31AM -0200 Organization: FreeBSD Project Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org --yC91f7qSViS67v3c Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Mario, I thought this sort of thing might come up. I'm copying the -doc list on this, so that other translators can make suggestions as well. On Sat, Dec 22, 2001 at 01:20:31AM -0200, Mario Sergio Fujikawa Ferreira wr= ote: > As you can see, my intention is to have the standard english > to portuguese glossary for translation purposes and a portuguese > to english glossary for reading clarification ones. >=20 > I know I do those with entities and stuff but since I am > not great with SGML, I was hoping there would some automated > facilities to handle that. Besides, I want to explain the ideas and > gather opinions so that I am not shot down when proposing the partial > document for addition in the doc repo. After, the translation > documents should be as much as verbatim as possible to the original > english document .... I shouldn't be changing it, adding tags here > and there but I think this is useful adding a significant amount > of information. We're going to very quickly run in to the limits of my ability with languages other than English :-) What I suggest you do is take a look at the KDE and Gnome projects. Both of those face this problem because they need to translate their user documentation, which is also written in DocBook. I know that the KDE people have written an application, kbabel, which is supposed to make it easier to translate documentation, and to reuse common phrases (like "read-only") that have already been translated. kbabel is part of the devel/kdesdk port. I assume (but don't know for sure) that there's an equivalent for Gnome. Either way, the translation teams for those projects can probably provide you with better hints and tips than I can. N --=20 FreeBSD: The Power to Serve http://www.freebsd.org/ FreeBSD Documentation Project http://www.freebsd.org/docproj/ --- 15B8 3FFC DDB4 34B0 AA5F 94B7 93A8 0764 2C37 E375 --- --yC91f7qSViS67v3c Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (FreeBSD) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iEYEARECAAYFAjwkYtYACgkQk6gHZCw343XUdQCfe+HV+8Kahze4qaKhrjhJo8z3 1qAAn3OpRwDGo7Nd3SqQ+lYL2Sb4HZ9g =gQxt -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --yC91f7qSViS67v3c-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sat Dec 22 7:30: 5 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E268737B405 for ; Sat, 22 Dec 2001 07:30:02 -0800 (PST) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) id fBMFU2B21385; Sat, 22 Dec 2001 07:30:02 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gnats) Date: Sat, 22 Dec 2001 07:30:02 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <200112221530.fBMFU2B21385@freefall.freebsd.org> To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Cc: From: Gerald Pfeifer Subject: Re: docs/32843: make at(1) man page Y2K clean Reply-To: Gerald Pfeifer Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org The following reply was made to PR docs/32843; it has been noted by GNATS. 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