From owner-freebsd-hardware Tue May 1 14: 0: 4 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from mail.zrz.tu-berlin.de (mail.zrz.TU-Berlin.DE [130.149.4.15]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 74AB737B423; Tue, 1 May 2001 13:59:52 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from georg.schwarz@iname.com) Received: from marconi.physik.tu-berlin.de ([130.149.161.190] helo=[192.168.0.2]) by mail.zrz.tu-berlin.de with smtp (exim-3.22) id 14uhFL-0005rl-00; Tue, 01 May 2001 22:59:48 +0200 To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org, freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org, cg@freebsd.org Subject: ISA PnP sound card problem: sort of solved From: georg.schwarz@iname.com (Georg Schwarz) Date: Tue, 1 May 2001 23:01:04 +0200 Message-ID: <1esr2gp.1oclt811j3nwwlM@georg.schwarz.online.de> Organization: private User-Agent: MacSOUP/D-2.4.6 Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org [ A copy of this message has been posted to the newsgroup ] [ comp.os.unix.bsd.freebsd.misc ] I've sort of solved the ISA PnP sound card pproblem with FreeBSD which I had reported yesterday. FreeBSD 4.3 wasn't recognizing my sound card, and Adlib Gold, for pnpinfo gives: Vendor ID CSC3137 (0x3731630e), Serial Number 0xffffffff PnP Version 1.3, Vendor Version 1 Device Description: AdLib MSC 16 PnP V3SB Logical Device ID: ASB1631 0x31166206 #0 TAG Start DF Good Configuration DMA: channel(s) 1 8-bit, not a bus master, count by byte, , Type A DMA: channel(s) 0 3 8-bit, not a bus master, count by byte, , Type A IRQ: 5 - only one type (true/edge) I/O Range 0x534 .. 0x534, alignment 0x4, len 0x4 [16-bit addr] I/O Range 0x388 .. 0x388, alignment 0x8, len 0x4 [16-bit addr] I/O Range 0x220 .. 0x220, alignment 0x20, len 0x10 [16-bit addr] TAG Start DF Acceptable Configuration DMA: channel(s) 0 1 3 8-bit, not a bus master, count by byte, , Type A IRQ: 5 7 9 11 - only one type (true/edge) I/O Range 0x534 .. 0xf44, alignment 0x4, len 0x4 [16-bit addr] I/O Range 0x388 .. 0x3f8, alignment 0x8, len 0x4 [16-bit addr] I/O Range 0x220 .. 0x2e0, alignment 0x20, len 0x10 [16-bit addr] TAG End DF Logical Device ID: ASB16fd 0xfd166206 #1 TAG Start DF Good Configuration I/O Range 0x200 .. 0x200, alignment 0x8, len 0x8 [16-bit addr] TAG Start DF Sub-optimal Configuration I/O Range 0x200 .. 0x2f8, alignment 0x8, len 0x8 [16-bit addr] TAG End DF Logical Device ID: ASB1600 0x00166206 #2 I/O Range 0x120 .. 0xff8, alignment 0x8, len 0x8 [16-bit addr] Logical Device ID: ASB16fe 0xfe166206 #3 TAG Start DF Good Configuration I/O Range 0x330 .. 0x330, alignment 0x8, len 0x2 [16-bit addr] TAG Start DF IRQ: 9 - only one type (true/edge) I/O Range 0x330 .. 0x330, alignment 0x8, len 0x2 [16-bit addr] TAG Start DF IRQ: 5 7 9 11 - only one type (true/edge) I/O Range 0x300 .. 0x370, alignment 0x8, len 0x2 [16-bit addr] TAG End DF End Tag Successfully got 35 resources, 4 logical fdevs -- card select # 0x0001 CSN CSC3137 (0x3731630e), Serial Number 0xffffffff Logical device #0 IO: 0x0534 0x0534 0x0534 0x0534 0x0534 0x0534 0x0534 0x0534 IRQ 5 0 DMA 1 0 IO range check 0x00 activate 0x01 Logical device #1 IO: 0x0000 0x0000 0x0000 0x0000 0x0000 0x0000 0x0000 0x0000 IRQ 0 0 DMA 4 4 IO range check 0x00 activate 0x01 Logical device #2 IO: 0x0000 0x0000 0x0000 0x0000 0x0000 0x0000 0x0000 0x0000 IRQ 0 0 DMA 4 4 IO range check 0x00 activate 0x01 Logical device #3 IO: 0x0000 0x0000 0x0000 0x0000 0x0000 0x0000 0x0000 0x0000 IRQ 0 0 DMA 4 4 IO range check 0x00 activate 0x01 I've now added to struct isa_pnp_id in /usr/src/sys/dev/sound/isa/mss.c the entry {0x31166206, "AdLib MSC 16 PnP V3SB"}, /* ASB1631 */ now with an entry of device pcm in the kernel config file I get the following: pcm0: at port 0x534-0x537,0x388-0x38b,0x220-0x22f irq 5 drq 1,0 on isa0 /dev/sndstat reads as follows: FreeBSD Audio Driver (newpcm) May 1 2001 19:48:38 Installed devices: pcm0: at io 0x534 irq 5 drq 1:0 (1p/1r channels duplex) So far, everything seems OK. One problem remaining is that the sound output works fine, but not when I reboot FreeBSD. After a warm reboot of FreeBSD the hardware recognition looks identical, but I don't get any sound any more. Similarly, when warm booting Linux (2.0.38) after having run FreeBSD 4.3 the card is not detected by Linux (which works fine when cold booting Linux and any reboot into Linux thereafter. It appears that FreeBSD somehow messes up the PnP info or does not suffciently reinitialize the PnP card. Is there anything I could do about that? It happens regardless whether I'm using the PNPBIOS option or not. The machine is an ICL ErgoPRO 486 PC, by the way. I'd appreciate any feedback. Thanks. remark: Unlike what http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO_8859-1/books/faq/troubleshot.html#P NP-NOT-FOUND states, it seems to be Logical Device ID, not the Vendor ID, which is of relevance for detecting the card (although in the particular example they happent to be identical). -- Georg Schwarz http://home.pages.de/~schwarz/ georg.schwarz@iname.com +49 177 2437545 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hardware Wed May 2 5:57:38 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from pop3.psinet.net.ar (pop3.psinet.net.ar [66.60.63.12]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 562CA37B422 for ; Wed, 2 May 2001 05:57:35 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from oliveiraw@psi.com) Received: from noc5.psi.com (noc5.isol.net.ar [200.0.208.45]) by pop3.psinet.net.ar (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f42Cr7V19876 for ; Wed, 2 May 2001 09:53:07 -0300 (ART) Message-Id: <5.0.2.1.2.20010502095240.00a9e090@pop3.psinet.net.ar> X-Sender: william@pop3.psinet.net.ar X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.0.2 Date: Wed, 02 May 2001 09:57:05 -0300 To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org From: William Candido de Oliveira Subject: Vodooo 5 !!! Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Staff, Somebody already placed a Vodoo5 AGP to function of the FREEBSD? Thanks for the Aid. William To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hardware Wed May 2 18:18: 8 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from catastrophe.net (ss189-189.dvsn-chi-il.outlook.net [208.45.189.189]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id DCC4137B43C for ; Wed, 2 May 2001 18:18:05 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from eric@catastrophe.net) Received: (qmail 5000 invoked by uid 1002); 3 May 2001 01:18:03 -0000 Date: Wed, 2 May 2001 20:18:03 -0500 (CDT) From: Reply-To: To: Subject: Not exactly the right place.... Message-ID: Organization: http://www.catastrophe.net MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org ...I noticed that ftp.freesoftware.com is down. It just so happens that I have a critical need for zip23.tar.gz Does anyone have this somewhere that they can hand to me? Thanks To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hardware Wed May 2 18:32:18 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from wopr.caltech.edu (wopr.caltech.edu [131.215.102.114]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C1AF237B423 for ; Wed, 2 May 2001 18:32:15 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mph@wopr.caltech.edu) Received: (from mph@localhost) by wopr.caltech.edu (8.11.3/8.11.0) id f431W8v95640; Wed, 2 May 2001 18:32:08 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mph) Date: Wed, 2 May 2001 18:32:07 -0700 From: Matthew Hunt To: uid0@catastrophe.net Cc: freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Not exactly the right place.... Message-ID: <20010502183207.A95474@wopr.caltech.edu> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: ; from uid0@catastrophe.net on Wed, May 02, 2001 at 08:18:03PM -0500 Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Wed, May 02, 2001 at 08:18:03PM -0500, uid0@catastrophe.net wrote: > ...I noticed that ftp.freesoftware.com is down. > > It just so happens that I have a critical need for zip23.tar.gz > > Does anyone have this somewhere that they can hand to me? http://ftp3.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/distfiles/zip23.tar.gz or some other mirror. Now, what the hell does this have to do with hardware? -- Matthew Hunt * Inertia is a property http://www.pobox.com/~mph/ * of matter. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hardware Wed May 2 18:36:52 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from catastrophe.net (ss189-189.dvsn-chi-il.outlook.net [208.45.189.189]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 925C537B424 for ; Wed, 2 May 2001 18:36:49 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from eric@catastrophe.net) Received: (qmail 5058 invoked by uid 1002); 3 May 2001 01:36:47 -0000 Date: Wed, 2 May 2001 20:36:47 -0500 (CDT) From: Reply-To: To: Matthew Hunt Cc: , Subject: Re: Not exactly the right place.... In-Reply-To: <20010502183207.A95474@wopr.caltech.edu> Message-ID: Organization: http://www.catastrophe.net MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org ; http://ftp3.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/distfiles/zip23.tar.gz or some ; other mirror. Ok thank you. ; Now, what the hell does this have to do with hardware? Yea yea I know I know. Actually, in a way it does - I'm working on some device drivers for an UI and needed to install the JDK stuff to get FreeBSD compatability worked out. So...in some way it does have to do wtih it. Sorry for the x-post. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hardware Fri May 4 9:55:22 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from mail1.siscom.net (mail1.siscom.net [209.251.2.51]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id A908B37B423 for ; Fri, 4 May 2001 09:55:18 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from radams@siscom.net) Received: (qmail 21499 invoked from network); 4 May 2001 16:45:23 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO jason) (209.251.2.49) by mail1.siscom.net with SMTP; 4 May 2001 16:45:23 -0000 Message-ID: <0c3f01c0d4bb$ff31cac0$3102fbd1@siscom.net> From: "Robert J. Adams" To: Subject: FC-AL HBA Date: Fri, 4 May 2001 12:50:20 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hello everyone, What's the recommended FC-AL HBA (controller) for FreeBSD? -j --- Robert J. Adams radams@siscom.net http://www.siscom.net Looking to outsource news? http://www.newshosting.com SISCOM Network Administration - President, SISCOM Inc. Phone: 937-222-8150 FAX: 937-222-8153 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hardware Fri May 4 9:56:40 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from feral.com (feral.com [192.67.166.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C79EC37B424 for ; Fri, 4 May 2001 09:56:36 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mjacob@feral.com) Received: from zeppo.feral.com (IDENT:mjacob@zeppo [192.67.166.71]) by feral.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA08661; Fri, 4 May 2001 09:56:35 -0700 Date: Fri, 4 May 2001 09:56:34 -0700 (PDT) From: Matthew Jacob Reply-To: mjacob@feral.com To: "Robert J. Adams" Cc: freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: FC-AL HBA In-Reply-To: <0c3f01c0d4bb$ff31cac0$3102fbd1@siscom.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org There's only one manufacturer currently directly supported: Qlogic (21XX/22XX- 23XX not supported yet). > Hello everyone, > > What's the recommended FC-AL HBA (controller) for FreeBSD? > > -j > > --- > Robert J. Adams radams@siscom.net http://www.siscom.net > Looking to outsource news? http://www.newshosting.com > SISCOM Network Administration - President, SISCOM Inc. > Phone: 937-222-8150 FAX: 937-222-8153 > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hardware Fri May 4 11:47:14 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from phobos.caltech.edu (phobos.caltech.edu [131.215.102.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A95E337B422 for ; Fri, 4 May 2001 11:47:11 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from baj@phobos.caltech.edu) Received: from gwiazda.caltech.edu (gwiazda [131.215.102.98]) by phobos.caltech.edu (8.11.3/8.11.3) with ESMTP id f44Il9q09047 for ; Fri, 4 May 2001 11:47:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gwiazda.caltech.edu (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA21023 for ; Fri, 4 May 2001 11:47:08 -0700 (PDT) Date: Fri, 4 May 2001 11:47:08 -0700 (PDT) From: Bryan A Jacoby X-Sender: baj@gwiazda.caltech.edu To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Subject: sound card support Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I'm trying to buy a Dell PC on which I will run FreeBSD. There are three sound cards offered, and from the release notes I'm not sure which (if any) are supported. They are described as: 1. Soundblaster 64V PCI 2. SB Live! Digital Sound Card with 1024V 3. Turtle Beach Santa Cruz DSP Sound Card Can you please tell me what the best choice is? Thanks, Bryan -- Bryan Jacoby | http://www.astro.caltech.edu/~baj To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hardware Fri May 4 14: 5:25 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from mikehan.com (giles.mikehan.com [63.201.69.194]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4D25D37B424 for ; Fri, 4 May 2001 14:05:21 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mikehan@mikehan.com) Received: (from mikehan@localhost) by mikehan.com (8.11.1/8.11.1) id f44L5Kn33593 for hardware@freebsd.org; Fri, 4 May 2001 14:05:20 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mikehan) Date: Fri, 4 May 2001 14:05:20 -0700 From: Michael Han To: hardware@freebsd.org Subject: Intel 82562 fxp problem Message-ID: <20010504140519.A33085@giles.mikehan.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I've got a box running FreeBSD 4.2-STABLE (cvsup'd about 2/20). It's an Intel 815EEA motherboard based on the 815E chipset, with an Intel 82562 integrated Ethernet adapter (on a riser?). The box frequently gives kernel warnings like: fxp0: SCB timeout fxp0: device timeout corresponding to the box dropping off of the network. Sometimes permanently, sometimes temporarily. I can't get console access, so I don't know if "ifconfig fxp0 down; ifconfig fxp0 up" or something like that helps or not. Anyone seen any similar problems? I have read the fxp(4) manpage and, as suggested, tried different cables. The box has also gotten a new motherboard (same model). It's been connected to different hardware (10Mbps hub and a 10/100 switch). It did this on 4.2-RELEASE and 4.2-STABLE. Whatever I do, it continues to exhibit this problem. Go easy here, I don't have physical access, so there's a bunch of stuff I'd have looked at that I can't verify one way or the other. Here's uname -a: FreeBSD xxxx.xxxxxx.xxx 4.2-STABLE FreeBSD 4.2-STABLE #0: Sun Feb 25 16:45:30 EST 2001 root@xxxx.xxxxxx.xxx:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/XXXX i386 Here's dmesg showing the problem: Copyright (c) 1992-2001 The FreeBSD Project. Copyright (c) 1979, 1980, 1983, 1986, 1988, 1989, 1991, 1992, 1993, 1994 The Regents of the University of California. All rights reserved. FreeBSD 4.2-STABLE #0: Sun Feb 25 16:45:30 EST 2001 root@xxxx.xxxxxx.xxx:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/XXXX Timecounter "i8254" frequency 1193182 Hz CPU: Pentium III/Pentium III Xeon/Celeron (730.97-MHz 686-class CPU) Origin = "GenuineIntel" Id = 0x686 Stepping = 6 Features=0x383f9ff real memory = 535560192 (523008K bytes) avail memory = 518254592 (506108K bytes) pnpbios: Bad PnP BIOS data checksum Preloaded elf kernel "kernel" at 0xc0333000. Pentium Pro MTRR support enabled md0: Malloc disk npx0: on motherboard npx0: INT 16 interface pcib0: on motherboard pci0: on pcib0 pci0: at 2.0 irq 11 pcib1: at device 30.0 on pci0 pci1: on pcib1 fxp0: port 0xdf00-0xdf3f mem 0xff8ff000-0xff8fffff irq 11 at device 8.0 on pci1 fxp0: Ethernet address 00:03:47:63:6c:94 isab0: at device 31.0 on pci0 isa0: on isab0 atapci0: port 0xffa0-0xffaf at device 31.1 on pci0 ata0: at 0x1f0 irq 14 on atapci0 ata1: at 0x170 irq 15 on atapci0 uhci0: port 0xef40-0xef5f irq 10 at device 31.2 on pci0 uhci0: (New UHCI DeviceId=0x24428086) usb0: on uhci0 usb0: USB revision 1.0 uhub0: (0x24428086) UHCI root hub, class 9/0, rev 1.00/1.00, addr 1 uhub0: 2 ports with 2 removable, self powered pci0: (vendor=0x8086, dev=0x2443) at 31.3 irq 6 uhci1: port 0xef80-0xef9f irq 9 at device 31.4 on pci0 uhci1: (New UHCI DeviceId=0x24448086) usb1: on uhci1 usb1: USB revision 1.0 uhub1: (0x24448086) UHCI root hub, class 9/0, rev 1.00/1.00, addr 1 uhub1: 2 ports with 2 removable, self powered pci0: (vendor=0x8086, dev=0x2445) at 31.5 irq 6 fdc0: direction bit not set fdc0: cmd 3 failed at out byte 1 of 3 atkbdc0: at port 0x60,0x64 on isa0 atkbd0: flags 0x1 irq 1 on atkbdc0 kbd0 at atkbd0 vga0: at port 0x3c0-0x3df iomem 0xa0000-0xbffff on isa0 sc0: at flags 0x100 on isa0 sc0: VGA <16 virtual consoles, flags=0x300> sio0 at port 0x3f8-0x3ff irq 4 flags 0x10 on isa0 sio0: type 16550A sio1 at port 0x2f8-0x2ff irq 3 on isa0 sio1: type 16550A IP packet filtering initialized, divert enabled, rule-based forwarding enabled, default to accept, logging limited to 100 packets/entry by default ata1-slave: ata_command: timeout waiting for intr ata1-slave: identify failed ad0: 43979MB [89355/16/63] at ata0-master UDMA33 ata0-slave: DMA limited to UDMA33, non-ATA66 compliant cable ad1: 43979MB [89355/16/63] at ata0-slave UDMA33 acd0: CDROM at ata1-master using PIO4 Mounting root from ufs:/dev/ad0s1a fxp0: SCB timeout fxp0: device timeout Waiting (max 60 seconds) for system process `bufdaemon' to stop...stopped Waiting (max 60 seconds) for system process `syncer' to stop...stopped syncing disks... done Uptime: 6m51s Rebooting... -- mikehan@mikehan.com http://www.mikehan.com/ coffee achiever San Francisco, California The life uncaffeinated is not worth living. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hardware Fri May 4 14:25:21 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from root.com (unknown [209.102.106.178]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 77EF137B423 for ; Fri, 4 May 2001 14:25:10 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dg@root.com) Received: (from dg@localhost) by root.com (8.11.2/8.11.2) id f44LLQ545098; Fri, 4 May 2001 14:21:26 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dg) Date: Fri, 4 May 2001 14:21:26 -0700 From: David Greenman To: Michael Han Cc: hardware@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Intel 82562 fxp problem Message-ID: <20010504142126.U19393@nexus.root.com> References: <20010504140519.A33085@giles.mikehan.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20010504140519.A33085@giles.mikehan.com>; from mikehan@mikehan.com on Fri, May 04, 2001 at 02:05:20PM -0700 Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org >I've got a box running FreeBSD 4.2-STABLE (cvsup'd about 2/20). It's >an Intel 815EEA motherboard based on the 815E chipset, with an Intel >82562 integrated Ethernet adapter (on a riser?). The box frequently >gives kernel warnings like: > >fxp0: SCB timeout >fxp0: device timeout > >corresponding to the box dropping off of the network. Sometimes >permanently, sometimes temporarily. I can't get console access, so I >don't know if "ifconfig fxp0 down; ifconfig fxp0 up" or something like >that helps or not. Anyone seen any similar problems? > >I have read the fxp(4) manpage and, as suggested, tried different >cables. The box has also gotten a new motherboard (same model). It's >been connected to different hardware (10Mbps hub and a 10/100 switch). >It did this on 4.2-RELEASE and 4.2-STABLE. Whatever I do, it continues >to exhibit this problem. Go easy here, I don't have physical access, >so there's a bunch of stuff I'd have looked at that I can't verify one >way or the other. I haven't done any testing with the 82562 and can't say whether it is compatible with the fxp driver. Is there any chance that you can plug a real Pro/100+ card into the machine and see if it exhibits the same problem? This would narrow down the problem to either a problem with the motherboard chipset or to the support of the 82562 in the fxp driver. -DG David Greenman Co-founder, The FreeBSD Project - http://www.freebsd.org President, TeraSolutions, Inc. - http://www.terasolutions.com Pave the road of life with opportunities. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hardware Fri May 4 14:36:12 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from mikehan.com (giles.mikehan.com [63.201.69.194]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 832EF37B423 for ; Fri, 4 May 2001 14:36:09 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mikehan@mikehan.com) Received: (from mikehan@localhost) by mikehan.com (8.11.1/8.11.1) id f44La6Y33736; Fri, 4 May 2001 14:36:06 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mikehan) Date: Fri, 4 May 2001 14:36:06 -0700 From: Michael Han To: David Greenman Cc: hardware@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Intel 82562 fxp problem Message-ID: <20010504143606.F33085@giles.mikehan.com> References: <20010504140519.A33085@giles.mikehan.com> <20010504142126.U19393@nexus.root.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <20010504142126.U19393@nexus.root.com>; from dg@root.com on Fri, May 04, 2001 at 02:21:26PM -0700 Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Fri, May 04, 2001 at 02:21:26PM -0700, David Greenman wrote: > > I haven't done any testing with the 82562 and can't say whether it is > compatible with the fxp driver. Is there any chance that you can plug a > real Pro/100+ card into the machine and see if it exhibits the same problem? > This would narrow down the problem to either a problem with the motherboard > chipset or to the support of the 82562 in the fxp driver. Uh oh. A real 82257 is a no-go. It's a 1U slimline, and my friend with physical access to the box informs me that trying to use the one open PCI riser is a problem in this chassis for some reason. He did, however, try out the SMC 9332DST 21140 [10-100Mb/s] de(4) I gave him, and the card appeared quite stable. Apparently he can't close the enclosure with the card in it though... Otherwise we'd be happy to talk to de0 instead! Anything else I can try out? Unfortunately, the box is out in NYC and I'm here in SF, and it's in a colo my friend rarely visits, so arranging various diagnostics is a bit complicated. Still, I'm happy to try to do whatever I can. -- mikehan@mikehan.com http://www.mikehan.com/ coffee achiever San Francisco, California "I am not a number; I am a free man!" - Number Six To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hardware Fri May 4 16: 1:47 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from seaholm.caamora.com.au (seaholm.caamora.com.au [203.7.226.5]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5F16737B424 for ; Fri, 4 May 2001 16:01:42 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jon@seaholm.caamora.com.au) Received: (from jon@localhost) by seaholm.caamora.com.au (8.11.1/8.11.1) id f44N1XZ17717; Sat, 5 May 2001 09:01:33 +1000 (EST) Message-ID: <20010505090132.39571@caamora.com.au> Date: Sat, 5 May 2001 09:01:33 +1000 From: jonathan michaels To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Subject: stray irq 7 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.84e Organisation: Caamora, PO Box 144, Rosebery NSW 1445 Australia Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org hello all i've just gotten an iso cut off the freebsd v4.2-release (cdrom 1) i booted to do an install on a machine that has a pentium 166 processor ide hard-drive and slave cdrom. it has a 'noname' soundblaster clone (not recognised by freebsd) and 32 mb dram, oh and a tsenglabs et4000 video card ... an x11 workstation this is not going to be. i remember (mainly from -stable) a lot of chatter about stray irq's )mainly the irq 7 variant). at the moment i don not have internet access so i cannot easily search the archives on freebsd.org. from what i remember the issue was never satisfactorily resolved. is a stray irq (esp 7, given that i have no printer attached, nor do i plan to) an impediment to reliable performance ? it is an annoyance to know that it is there .. is that all it is, an annoyance ??? incase it matters the machine runs ms win 95 flawlessly, ibm os/2 boots without any complaints and the old landmark diagnostics kit gives this machine a clean bill of health. also openbsd v2.6 boots finds all the hardware and no complaints about stray anythings. i've used freebsd since v2.0.5-release, when the network is again functioning properly (after this machine gets installed) it will be a 3 machine 'intranet' with a tempramental graphics workstation making a 4th when i can be bothered to tinker with the beastie. suggestions one liners, thoughts, pointers would be most appreciated. sorry, about the lack of "diagnostics" output, one if the quirks this machine displays it that freebsd thinks that the floppy disk is a 2.88 mb floppy diskette drive running in 1.44 mb mode and i cannot read or write floppy diskettes (ms windows also has trouble reading/writing to this drive as well, for some unspecified reason. also openbsd makes much the same noises (2.88 mb floppy in 1.44 mb mode). i've turned off pnp os and a couple of other ms win dos shell and ms win nt operating system things (all tested with the openbsd v2.6 bootable cdrom, to see if it still works, as expected). freebsd has various degrees of success ranging from no boot at all to booting from cdrom and complaining (in the emergency holographic shell) about this stray irq 7 .. ps the sysinstall seems to be working well and doing the things it is asked to do in the order asked. am i fretting needlessly, or is this something that needs to be seen to before it "becomes an issue" sort of thing. with regards and thanks fro your time. jonathan please excuse my spelling, its not real good, there are medical reasons for it being this bad. well, most of the time (sort of grin) -- ================================================================ Jonathan Michaels http://www.caamora.com.au PO Box 144, Rosebery, NSW 1445 suffering construction anxiety ============================================ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hardware Fri May 4 21: 0:17 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from rose.niw.com.au (app3022-2.gw.connect.com.au [203.63.119.4]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8779F37B423 for ; Fri, 4 May 2001 21:00:14 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ian@niw.com.au) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by rose.niw.com.au (Postfix) with ESMTP id C94B2111319 for ; Sat, 5 May 2001 13:30:08 +0930 (CST) Received: by rose.niw.com.au (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 6306E111318; Sat, 5 May 2001 13:30:07 +0930 (CST) Date: Sat, 5 May 2001 13:30:07 +0930 From: Ian West To: freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Dual PCI SIO card Message-ID: <20010505133007.Y1899@rose.niw.com.au> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i X-Virus-Scanned: by AMaViS perl-10 Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi, I have a Sunix SUN1889 based dual serial card. I have it working by modifying the sio driver to scale divisors by 8, and manually configuring 2 isa sio ports in a kernel config (along with COM_MULTIPORT). This is not ideal as it changes if the config of the machine is altered. (PCI allocations change). I would like to get 'proper' support working. Is there a way within the sio driver to spawn two seperate devices from one pci probe ? Is a better solution to treat the device as a pci bridge and spawn to child sio ports from this ? Can anyone point me at the right doco, or a driver which already implements something like this ? To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hardware Fri May 4 22:27:55 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from smtp1.sentex.ca (smtp1.sentex.ca [199.212.134.4]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F3B3437B422 for ; Fri, 4 May 2001 22:27:51 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mike@sentex.net) Received: from chimp.simianscience.com (cage.simianscience.com [64.7.134.1]) by smtp1.sentex.ca (8.11.2/8.11.1) with SMTP id f455RaY30561; Sat, 5 May 2001 01:27:36 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from mike@sentex.net) From: Mike Tancsa To: dg@root.com (David Greenman) Cc: hardware@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Intel 82562 fxp problem Date: Sat, 05 May 2001 01:27:35 -0400 Message-ID: <1d37ftkfr8gcp1jcg5vu3dosmbbjdn6s31@4ax.com> References: <20010504140519.A33085@giles.mikehan.com> In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: Forte Agent 1.8/32.548 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On 4 May 2001 17:25:34 -0400, in sentex.lists.freebsd.hardware you wrote: >>I've got a box running FreeBSD 4.2-STABLE (cvsup'd about 2/20). It's >>an Intel 815EEA motherboard based on the 815E chipset, with an Intel >>82562 integrated Ethernet adapter (on a riser?). The box frequently >>gives kernel warnings like: >> >>fxp0: SCB timeout >>fxp0: device timeout >> >>corresponding to the box dropping off of the network. Sometimes >>permanently, sometimes temporarily. I can't get console access, so I >>don't know if "ifconfig fxp0 down; ifconfig fxp0 up" or something like >>that helps or not. Anyone seen any similar problems? >> >>I have read the fxp(4) manpage and, as suggested, tried different >>cables. The box has also gotten a new motherboard (same model). It's >>been connected to different hardware (10Mbps hub and a 10/100 switch). >>It did this on 4.2-RELEASE and 4.2-STABLE. Whatever I do, it continues >>to exhibit this problem. Go easy here, I don't have physical access, >>so there's a bunch of stuff I'd have looked at that I can't verify one >>way or the other. > > I haven't done any testing with the 82562 and can't say whether it is >compatible with the fxp driver. Is there any chance that you can plug a >real Pro/100+ card into the machine and see if it exhibits the same = problem? >This would narrow down the problem to either a problem with the = motherboard >chipset or to the support of the 82562 in the fxp driver. This sounds like the same problem I have been reporting to jlemon with = his version of the driver. Same type of motherboard/chipset/issue. A plain = old PCI version of the nic is just fine in the same box with the same = drivers. I am guessing that the problem is somehow related to flow control in the IBM switch I am using as the problem does not seem to be there when the card is in my compaq switch. When I get the device timeouts,=20 =46rom a slightly patched version of his driver,=20 fxp0: SCB timeout: 0x70, 0x0, 0x50 0x400 fxp0: device timeout fxp0: SCB timeout: 0x70, 0x0, 0x50 0x400 fxp0: device timeout fxp0: SCB timeout: 0x70, 0x0, 0x50 0x400 device_printf(sc->dev, "SCB timeout: 0x%x, 0x%x, 0x%x 0x%x\n", CSR_READ_1(sc, FXP_CSR_SCB_COMMAND), CSR_READ_1(sc, FXP_CSR_SCB_STATACK), CSR_READ_1(sc, FXP_CSR_SCB_RUSCUS), CSR_READ_2(sc, FXP_CSR_FLOWCONTROL)); } =20 Mike Tancsa (mdtancsa@sentex.net) =09 Sentex Communications Corp, =09 Waterloo, Ontario, Canada "Given enough time, 100 monkeys on 100 routers=20 could setup a national IP network." (KDW2) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hardware Fri May 4 22:31: 4 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from smtp1.sentex.ca (smtp1.sentex.ca [199.212.134.4]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DB44737B422 for ; Fri, 4 May 2001 22:31:01 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mike@sentex.net) Received: from chimp.simianscience.com (cage.simianscience.com [64.7.134.1]) by smtp1.sentex.ca (8.11.2/8.11.1) with SMTP id f455UuY30736; Sat, 5 May 2001 01:30:57 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from mike@sentex.net) From: Mike Tancsa To: mikehan@mikehan.com (Michael Han) Cc: hardware@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Intel 82562 fxp problem Date: Sat, 05 May 2001 01:30:56 -0400 Message-ID: References: <20010504140519.A33085@giles.mikehan.com> <20010504142126.U19393@nexus.root.com> In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: Forte Agent 1.8/32.548 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On 4 May 2001 17:36:19 -0400, in sentex.lists.freebsd.hardware you wrote: >On Fri, May 04, 2001 at 02:21:26PM -0700, David Greenman wrote: >>=20 >> I haven't done any testing with the 82562 and can't say whether it = is >> compatible with the fxp driver. Is there any chance that you can plug = a >> real Pro/100+ card into the machine and see if it exhibits the same = problem? >> This would narrow down the problem to either a problem with the = motherboard >> chipset or to the support of the 82562 in the fxp driver. > >Uh oh. A real 82257 is a no-go. It's a 1U slimline, and my friend with >physical access to the box informs me that trying to use the one open >PCI riser is a problem in this chassis for some reason. He did, >however, try out the SMC 9332DST 21140 [10-100Mb/s] de(4) I gave him, >and the card appeared quite stable. Apparently he can't close the >enclosure with the card in it though... Otherwise we'd be happy to >talk to de0 instead! > >Anything else I can try out? Unfortunately, the box is out in NYC and >I'm here in SF, and it's in a colo my friend rarely visits, so >arranging various diagnostics is a bit complicated. Still, I'm happy >to try to do whatever I can. Perhaps the patch at http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=3D18757 It might not be your issue, but you may want to try it. ---Mike Mike Tancsa (mdtancsa@sentex.net) =09 Sentex Communications Corp, =09 Waterloo, Ontario, Canada "Given enough time, 100 monkeys on 100 routers=20 could setup a national IP network." (KDW2) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hardware Sat May 5 10:11:33 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from mikehan.com (giles.mikehan.com [63.201.69.194]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CB47D37B423 for ; Sat, 5 May 2001 10:11:30 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mikehan@mikehan.com) Received: (from mikehan@localhost) by mikehan.com (8.11.1/8.11.1) id f45HBRT39372; Sat, 5 May 2001 10:11:27 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mikehan) Date: Sat, 5 May 2001 10:11:27 -0700 From: Michael Han To: Mike Tancsa Cc: hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Intel 82562 fxp problem Message-ID: <20010505101127.B39338@giles.mikehan.com> References: <20010504140519.A33085@giles.mikehan.com> <1d37ftkfr8gcp1jcg5vu3dosmbbjdn6s31@4ax.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <1d37ftkfr8gcp1jcg5vu3dosmbbjdn6s31@4ax.com>; from mike@sentex.net on Sat, May 05, 2001 at 01:27:35AM -0400 Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Sat, May 05, 2001 at 01:27:35AM -0400, Mike Tancsa wrote: > > This sounds like the same problem I have been reporting to jlemon with his > version of the driver. Same type of motherboard/chipset/issue. A plain old > PCI version of the nic is just fine in the same box with the same drivers. > I am guessing that the problem is somehow related to flow control in the > IBM switch I am using as the problem does not seem to be there when the > card is in my compaq switch. When I get the device timeouts, Given the fact that I can pick up all kinds of stuff on the ether using tcpdump(8), I'd have to conclude I must be on a hub, not a switch. That or I'm on a monitor port (or the equivalent) on a switch. Weird. So now I think I've been on a plain hub and a 10/100 hub, but not a switch so far. -- mikehan@mikehan.com http://www.mikehan.com/ coffee achiever San Francisco, California "Compulsory education is inconstitutional" - random graffitti To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hardware Sat May 5 11: 7:53 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from cage.simianscience.com (cage.simianscience.com [64.7.134.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 93BC937B422 for ; Sat, 5 May 2001 11:07:49 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mike@sentex.net) Received: (from root@localhost) by cage.simianscience.com (8.11.3/8.11.2) id f45I7m157385; Sat, 5 May 2001 14:07:48 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from mike@sentex.net) Received: from chimp (fcage [192.168.0.2]) by cage.simianscience.com (8.11.3/8.11.2av) with ESMTP id f45I7g157377; Sat, 5 May 2001 14:07:42 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from mike@sentex.net) Message-Id: <4.2.2.20010505140526.0239ced8@192.168.0.12> X-Sender: mdtancsa@192.168.0.12 X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.2 Date: Sat, 05 May 2001 14:07:42 -0400 To: Michael Han From: Mike Tancsa Subject: Re: Intel 82562 fxp problem Cc: hardware@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <20010505101127.B39338@giles.mikehan.com> References: <1d37ftkfr8gcp1jcg5vu3dosmbbjdn6s31@4ax.com> <20010504140519.A33085@giles.mikehan.com> <1d37ftkfr8gcp1jcg5vu3dosmbbjdn6s31@4ax.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed X-Virus-Scanned: by AMaViS perl-10 Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org At 10:11 AM 5/5/2001 -0700, Michael Han wrote: >On Sat, May 05, 2001 at 01:27:35AM -0400, Mike Tancsa wrote: > > > > This sounds like the same problem I have been reporting to jlemon with his > > version of the driver. Same type of motherboard/chipset/issue. A plain old > > PCI version of the nic is just fine in the same box with the same drivers. > > I am guessing that the problem is somehow related to flow control in the > > IBM switch I am using as the problem does not seem to be there when the > > card is in my compaq switch. When I get the device timeouts, > >Given the fact that I can pick up all kinds of stuff on the ether >using tcpdump(8), I'd have to conclude I must be on a hub, not a >switch. That or I'm on a monitor port (or the equivalent) on a switch. Or you are picking up broadcast traffic.... what does ifconfig fxp0 show ? What is the model number of the device you are plugged into ? ---Mike -------------------------------------------------------------------- Mike Tancsa, tel +1 519 651 3400 Network Administration, mike@sentex.net Sentex Communications www.sentex.net Cambridge, Ontario Canada www.sentex.net/mike To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hardware Sat May 5 11:32:34 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from mikehan.com (giles.mikehan.com [63.201.69.194]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8EAF937B422 for ; Sat, 5 May 2001 11:32:31 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mikehan@mikehan.com) Received: (from mikehan@localhost) by mikehan.com (8.11.1/8.11.1) id f45IWSV39521; Sat, 5 May 2001 11:32:28 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mikehan) Date: Sat, 5 May 2001 11:32:28 -0700 From: Michael Han To: Mike Tancsa Cc: hardware@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Intel 82562 fxp problem Message-ID: <20010505113228.D39338@giles.mikehan.com> References: <1d37ftkfr8gcp1jcg5vu3dosmbbjdn6s31@4ax.com> <20010504140519.A33085@giles.mikehan.com> <1d37ftkfr8gcp1jcg5vu3dosmbbjdn6s31@4ax.com> <20010505101127.B39338@giles.mikehan.com> <4.2.2.20010505140526.0239ced8@192.168.0.12> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <4.2.2.20010505140526.0239ced8@192.168.0.12>; from mike@sentex.net on Sat, May 05, 2001 at 02:07:42PM -0400 Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Sat, May 05, 2001 at 02:07:42PM -0400, Mike Tancsa wrote: > At 10:11 AM 5/5/2001 -0700, Michael Han wrote: > > Or you are picking up broadcast traffic.... what does > > ifconfig fxp0 > > show ? What is the model number of the device you are plugged into ? Thanks for reminding me to actually *look*, rather than guess. I'm on a 10Mbps hub. fxp0: flags=8843 mtu 1500 inet xxx.xxx.xx.x netmask 0xffffff80 broadcast xxx.xxx.xx.xxx inet6 fe80::203:47ff:fe63:6c94%fxp0 prefixlen 64 scopeid 0x1 ether 00:03:47:63:6c:94 media: autoselect (10baseT/UTP) status: active supported media: autoselect 100baseTX 100baseTX 10baseT/UTP 10baseT/UTP And tcpdump(8) definitely captures unicast packets headed other places. You put a box in a colo and you (or maybe it's just me) naturally assume it's a fast switch, if not GigE, but I'm on a little 10Mbps hub. Couldn't tell you what make/model hub though -- the box is 3000 miles away. I've never even laid eyes on it. My friend who's actually been there probably wouldn't know about such things. Incidentally, here's the output of "netstat -bdI fxp0" Name Mtu Network Address Ipkts Ierrs Ibytes Opkts Oerrs Obytes Coll Drop fxp0 1500 00:03:47:63:6c:94 183299 0 22346953 2600 0 425358 57 0 fxp0 1500 xxx.xxx.xx/25 xxxxxxxx.xxxx.x 183299 0 22346953 2600 0 425358 57 0 fxp0 1500 fe80:1::203 fe80:1::203:47ff: 183299 0 22346953 2600 0 425358 57 0 -- mikehan@mikehan.com http://www.mikehan.com/ coffee achiever San Francisco, California "And, just like it should in all stories about philosophers, it ended up in complete chaos." - Richard P. Feynman To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message