From owner-freebsd-isp Sun Mar 25 16: 5:55 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from ren.sasknow.com (ren.sasknow.com [207.195.92.131]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DB56537B718 for ; Sun, 25 Mar 2001 16:05:51 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from ryan@sasknow.com) Received: from localhost (ryan@localhost) by ren.sasknow.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id SAA94586; Sun, 25 Mar 2001 18:05:48 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from ryan@sasknow.com) Date: Sun, 25 Mar 2001 18:05:48 -0600 (CST) From: Ryan Thompson To: "Eric D. Stanfield" Cc: freebsd2 Subject: Re: server problem In-Reply-To: <003001c0b47f$485a5620$7ccc29d0@thestanfields.com> Message-ID: Organization: SaskNow Technologies [www.sasknow.com] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I don't know off hand what might be causing this. Random thought: If the server process is a daemon, it will fork and return control. If it starts successfully, but for some reason returns a non-zero exit status, your start/stop script might be fooled into thinking that it did not start, thus it tries to start it again, etc., ad infinitum. Check your logic. Maybe make a fancy grep command to ensure that no processes by the same name are already running. Or better yet, put a .pid file in /var/run/ (if it doesn't do that already). Other than that, assuming that you eventually got those processes killed, check your logs and analyze what you can. In particular, have a look at the times the server was started--in very close succession, or at specific intervals? That should also tell you if this problem took a few days to cook up, and the servers simply weren't dying as expected at 8am. Eric D. Stanfield wrote to freebsd2: > Wondering if anyone else has ever had this happen. > > I have a server set up that runs the online game CounterStrike. Basically, > cron launches counterstrike every evening at 5pm then turns it off at 8am by > calling a little shell script (for both launch and kill). Counterstrike > sets aside 128M of ram for its own use. This has worked well for months. > > Yesterday, cron turned counterstrike on. Then cron did it again. And > again. I telnetted in from home and saw around 12-15 counterstrike > processes fighting to load/stay loaded. The login process itself took about > 20 minutes to get from prompting for a username to giving me a command > prompt. I barely managed to do a ps -ax to see all the c-s processes before > getting dumped out of telnet. At that point it would appear that inetd died > because ftp/telnet no longer accept connections. Oddly enough, Apache is > still running and I can pull a web page off the machine albeit at a snail's > pace. > > As I said, the server has been running this scenario without problems for > months. I've not edited cron or changed anything else on the machine. The > server is running 4.2-Current and is a p2-266 with 256M of ram and endless > gigs of disk space. > > Has anyone seen this happen before? I'm guessing that cron is bugging out > and repeatedly launching this counterstrike process. I can't find anything > related to bugs with cron in this release. While this is "only a game > machine" I do run a number of production machines on 4.2-current and I'm > very worried at this point that I might find myself dealing with this in a > much more critical environment. > > Thanks, > > Eric > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message > -- Ryan Thompson Network Administrator, Accounts SaskNow Technologies - http://www.sasknow.com #106-380 3120 8th St E - Saskatoon, SK - S7H 0W2 Tel: 306-664-3600 Fax: 306-664-1161 Saskatoon Toll-Free: 877-727-5669 (877-SASKNOW) North America To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Sun Mar 25 18:50:56 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from wint.itfs.nsk.su (wint.itfs.nsk.su [212.20.32.43]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 35FC837B71A for ; Sun, 25 Mar 2001 18:50:53 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from nnd@wint.itfs.nsk.su) Received: (from nnd@localhost) by wint.itfs.nsk.su (8.11.3/8.11.3) id f2Q2oht00491; Mon, 26 Mar 2001 09:50:43 +0700 (NOVST) (envelope-from nnd) Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2001 09:50:43 +0700 (NOVST) Message-Id: <200103260250.f2Q2oht00491@wint.itfs.nsk.su> From: nnd@mail.nsk.ru To: Sergei Vasilyev Cc: isp@freebsd.org Subject: Re: gated does not export static rip In-Reply-To: User-Agent: tin/1.5.8-20010221 ("Blue Water") (UNIX) (FreeBSD/5.0-CURRENT (i386)) Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org In article you wrote: > > > I've got GateD on my FreeBSD router. > gated.conf is somth. like > ... skipped ... > export proto rip interface ed1 { > proto static{ > n.n.n.n masklen 24 ; > m.m.m.m masklen 24 ; > };}; Try to change this to export proto rip interface ed1 { proto static metric 1 { # ^^^^^^^^ n.n.n.n masklen 24 ; m.m.m.m masklen 24 ; };}; In some versions of gated this've helps to export static routes. N.Dudorov To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Sun Mar 25 20:19:48 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from reef.island.net.au (reef.island.net.au [203.28.142.4]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 63D8537B719 for ; Sun, 25 Mar 2001 20:19:44 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from hugh@island.net.au) Received: from gaul (fwuser@portal.island.net.au [203.28.142.8]) by reef.island.net.au (8.11.1/8.11.1) with SMTP id f2Q4JQG79800; Mon, 26 Mar 2001 14:19:26 +1000 (EST) Message-ID: <00eb01c0b5ab$e7025a20$088ea8c0@island.net.au> From: "Hugh Blandford" To: "Daniel O'Callaghan" , References: Subject: Re: DSL services to apartments Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2001 14:19:06 +1000 Organization: Island Internet MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi Daniel, I'm afraid that your main problem is going to be the communications regulations in Australia. You will have to check with the ACA or read the 1997 Telecommunications Act but I believe you are only capable of running 5 lines to third parties. After that you are considered to be a Telco and you will need to get a Telco licence. Check it out first before you go too far down the road. Regards, Hugh Blandford ----- Original Message ----- From: "Daniel O'Callaghan" To: Sent: Saturday, March 24, 2001 2:07 PM Subject: DSL services to apartments > > I'm thinking of providing Internet access to an apartment block via a DSL > line. DSL is new to Melbourne and I have not actually used one myself, > yet, so please bear with me. I get the impression that the best way to do > this is: > > Internet > | > DSLRouter-----[SWITCH] > | | | | > A B C D...etc > > I'd like to use a FreeBSD box in place of SWITCH, but there is an issue of > port density. > > If the above scenario is appropriate then I can use either a dumb switch > or a programmable switch. The dumb switch would allow people to see PCs > in other apartments. The programmable switch could prevent that. > > Can anyone let me know (a) is it worth putting in the programmable switch, > or should I just tell people to secure their own PCs; (b) what are > people's recommendations for a low cost per port programmable switch? > > Also, is there a completely different approach that I should consider? > I'm open to any suggestions, provided the cost to the end user is > realistic. > > Thanks, > > Danny > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Sun Mar 25 22:16:47 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from gizmo.internode.com.au (gizmo.internode.com.au [192.83.231.115]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7A79237B719 for ; Sun, 25 Mar 2001 22:16:44 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from newton@gizmo.internode.com.au) Received: (from newton@localhost) by gizmo.internode.com.au (8.11.0/8.9.3) id f2Q6FCx75623; Mon, 26 Mar 2001 15:45:12 +0930 (CST) (envelope-from newton) Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2001 15:45:12 +0930 From: Mark Newton To: Hugh Blandford Cc: "Daniel O'Callaghan" , freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: DSL services to apartments Message-ID: <20010326154512.B74711@internode.com.au> References: <00eb01c0b5ab$e7025a20$088ea8c0@island.net.au> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0pre3i In-Reply-To: <00eb01c0b5ab$e7025a20$088ea8c0@island.net.au> X-PGP-Key: http://www.on.net/~newton/pgpkey.txt Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Mon, Mar 26, 2001 at 02:19:06PM +1000, Hugh Blandford wrote: > I'm afraid that your main problem is going to be the communications > regulations in Australia. You will have to check with the ACA or read the > 1997 Telecommunications Act but I believe you are only capable of running 5 > lines to third parties. After that you are considered to be a Telco and you > will need to get a Telco licence. You made a typo: You mentioned "5 lines" instead of "1 line." > Check it out first before you go too far down the road. What a stirling idea! - mark -- Mark Newton Email: newton@internode.com.au (W) Network Engineer Email: newton@atdot.dotat.org (H) Internode Systems Pty Ltd Desk: +61-8-82232999 "Network Man" - Anagram of "Mark Newton" Mobile: +61-416-202-223 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Sun Mar 25 23:14:14 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from reef.island.net.au (reef.island.net.au [203.28.142.4]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9A58737B719 for ; Sun, 25 Mar 2001 23:14:08 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from hugh@island.net.au) Received: from gaul (fwuser@portal.island.net.au [203.28.142.8]) by reef.island.net.au (8.11.1/8.11.1) with SMTP id f2Q7DrG80300; Mon, 26 Mar 2001 17:13:53 +1000 (EST) Message-ID: <004d01c0b5c4$2be4b440$088ea8c0@island.net.au> From: "Hugh Blandford" To: "Mark Newton" Cc: "Daniel O'Callaghan" , References: <00eb01c0b5ab$e7025a20$088ea8c0@island.net.au> <20010326154512.B74711@internode.com.au> Subject: Re: DSL services to apartments Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2001 17:12:50 +1000 Organization: Island Internet MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi > On Mon, Mar 26, 2001 at 02:19:06PM +1000, Hugh Blandford wrote: > > > I'm afraid that your main problem is going to be the communications > > regulations in Australia. You will have to check with the ACA or read the > > 1997 Telecommunications Act but I believe you are only capable of running 5 > > lines to third parties. After that you are considered to be a Telco and you > > will need to get a Telco licence. > > > You made a typo: You mentioned "5 lines" instead of "1 line." I had another look, though not being a lawyer reading the act is a bit of a guess but section 26 basically means you can't have a single line over 500 metres. Not too hard in an apartment block. section 27 says that your aggregate of lines connecting distinct places can't be over 5 kilometers. So maybe you will be OK but as the ACA says you had better get a professional opinion. You can have a read at: http://www.austlii.edu.au/au/legis/cth/consol_act/ta1997214/ Regards, Hugh To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Sun Mar 25 23:46:30 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from gizmo.internode.com.au (gizmo.internode.com.au [192.83.231.115]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B3D0A37B718 for ; Sun, 25 Mar 2001 23:46:16 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from newton@gizmo.internode.com.au) Received: (from newton@localhost) by gizmo.internode.com.au (8.11.0/8.9.3) id f2Q7ivH76195; Mon, 26 Mar 2001 17:14:57 +0930 (CST) (envelope-from newton) Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2001 17:14:57 +0930 From: Mark Newton To: Hugh Blandford Cc: "Daniel O'Callaghan" , freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: DSL services to apartments Message-ID: <20010326171457.B76106@internode.com.au> References: <00eb01c0b5ab$e7025a20$088ea8c0@island.net.au> <20010326154512.B74711@internode.com.au> <004d01c0b5c4$2be4b440$088ea8c0@island.net.au> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0pre3i In-Reply-To: <004d01c0b5c4$2be4b440$088ea8c0@island.net.au> X-PGP-Key: http://www.on.net/~newton/pgpkey.txt Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Mon, Mar 26, 2001 at 05:12:50PM +1000, Hugh Blandford wrote: > > On Mon, Mar 26, 2001 at 02:19:06PM +1000, Hugh Blandford wrote: > > > I'm afraid that your main problem is going to be the communications > > > regulations in Australia. You will have to check with the ACA or > > > read the 1997 Telecommunications Act but I believe you are only > > > capable of running 5 lines to third parties. After that you are > > > considered to be a Telco and you will need to get a Telco licence. > > > > You made a typo: You mentioned "5 lines" instead of "1 line." > > I had another look, though not being a lawyer reading the act is a bit of a > guess but section 26 basically means you can't have a single line over > 500 metres. Not too hard in an apartment block. > section 27 says that your aggregate of lines connecting distinct places > can't be over 5 kilometers. Both of those clauses are talking about links where you're not engaged in "supply to the public", i.e., links within your own company, which are used exclusively by your own company. Note that this means you can't, say, put a web server in an outlying office connected to your main Internet link via a self-provide line link, because that web server would then be providing "supply to the public" over an unlicensed link whenever an Internet user retrieved a URL from it. Section 26 says that you can string your own cable or run your own microwave links or stretch string between your tin cans across property boundaries over distances up to 500m, provided both ends of the link are within the same "immediate circle" (i.e., same company, same university, links to employees houses, etc). This avoids the need to buy services from a carrier to connect buildings on a campus, or to connect your shopfront to the engineering facility across the street. Section 27 closes the loophole that would permit you to run links as long as you wanted in 500m hops by saying that if you want to combine links, you can't end up with any aggregate path whatsoever more than 5km long (so if you have a set of 500m hops from an employee's house to your company over 1.5km, and another set of 500m hops to an outlying office 4km away, that'd be illegal, because the distance from your employee's house to your outlying office would then be 5.5km, which is longer than the limit imposed by section 27). Both of those rules go out the window if you're conducting "supply to the public" (e.g., if you're an ISP, and you have a 500m fibre to a nearby apartment block, and you're providing residents with broadband connectivity). You can't provide "supply to the public" over any self-provisioned link, no matter how short it is, unless you're a licensed carrier. International readers will now understand why Australian ISPs don't run fibre all over the countryside like US and European ISPs do -- It's because the Telecommunications Act imposes a licensing scheme over the industry which creates large barriers to entry for small players: Once you have a carrier license, you can expect legal bills of at least $250,000 per annum to dot the i's and cross the t's with the ACA, and you have to make annual contributions to the Universal Service Obligation fund, and you need to construct your network in a manner which matches the administrative and technical standards set by the regulatory body, and..., and..., and... Then when you actually start building your network the costs only increase. The result is a cartel of wholesale providers (currently Telstra and Cable and Wireless Optus), which everyone else is forced to deal with if they want connectivity interstate. > So maybe you will be OK but as the ACA says you had better get a > professional opinion. Sage advice. - mark -- Mark Newton Email: newton@internode.com.au (W) Network Engineer Email: newton@atdot.dotat.org (H) Internode Systems Pty Ltd Desk: +61-8-82232999 "Network Man" - Anagram of "Mark Newton" Mobile: +61-416-202-223 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Mon Mar 26 4: 1: 6 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from axis.tdd.lt (axis.tdd.lt [193.219.211.5]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0E1AA37B719 for ; Mon, 26 Mar 2001 04:01:02 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from vaidas.damosevicius@delfi.lt) Received: from vd (office.delfi.lt [213.197.128.76]) by axis.tdd.lt (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f2QC0w891755 for ; Mon, 26 Mar 2001 14:00:59 +0200 (EET) Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2001 14:02:40 +0200 From: Vaidas Damosevicius X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.51) Personal Reply-To: Vaidas Damosevicius Organization: DELFI INTERNET X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <661036044703.20010326140240@delfi.lt> To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: TCP Sessions Limit MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hello, I have some freebsd boxes as gw/fw in out network and about 400 users ... Is it possible to limit users TCP sessions on my fbsd gw/fw ? ipfw can't do it, maybe where are some other tools to do it ? Thank you. Vaidas Damosevicius DELFI NOC To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Mon Mar 26 4:12: 4 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from sasami.jurai.net (sasami.jurai.net [64.0.106.45]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 26FCC37B719 for ; Mon, 26 Mar 2001 04:12:02 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from scanner@jurai.net) Received: from localhost (scanner@localhost) by sasami.jurai.net (8.9.3/8.8.7) with ESMTP id HAA44840; Mon, 26 Mar 2001 07:11:44 -0500 (EST) Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2001 07:11:43 -0500 (EST) From: To: Vaidas Damosevicius Cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: TCP Sessions Limit In-Reply-To: <661036044703.20010326140240@delfi.lt> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Mon, 26 Mar 2001, Vaidas Damosevicius wrote: > Hello, > > I have some freebsd boxes as gw/fw in out network and > about 400 users ... Is it possible to limit users TCP sessions > on my fbsd gw/fw ? ipfw can't do it, maybe where are some other > tools to do it ? What exactly do you want to limit? Connection's? Bandwidth? Latency? ============================================================================= -Chris Watson (316) 326-3862 | FreeBSD Consultant, FreeBSD Geek Work: scanner@jurai.net | Open Systems Inc., Wellington, Kansas Home: scanner@deceptively.shady.org | http://open-systems.net ============================================================================= WINDOWS: "Where do you want to go today?" LINUX: "Where do you want to go tomorrow?" BSD: "Are you guys coming or what?" ============================================================================= irc.openprojects.net #FreeBSD -Join the revolution! ICQ: 20016186 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Mon Mar 26 4:16: 7 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from axis.tdd.lt (axis.tdd.lt [193.219.211.5]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9486F37B718 for ; Mon, 26 Mar 2001 04:16:02 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from vaidas.damosevicius@delfi.lt) Received: from vd (office.delfi.lt [213.197.128.76]) by axis.tdd.lt (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f2QCG0897595 for ; Mon, 26 Mar 2001 14:16:00 +0200 (EET) Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2001 14:17:41 +0200 From: Vaidas Damosevicius X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.51) Personal Reply-To: Vaidas Damosevicius Organization: DELFI INTERNET X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <491036946360.20010326141741@delfi.lt> To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: Re[2]: TCP Sessions Limit In-Reply-To: References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Monday, March 26, 2001, 2:11:43 PM, you wrote: sjn> On Mon, 26 Mar 2001, Vaidas Damosevicius wrote: >> Hello, >> >> I have some freebsd boxes as gw/fw in out network and >> about 400 users ... Is it possible to limit users TCP sessions >> on my fbsd gw/fw ? ipfw can't do it, maybe where are some other >> tools to do it ? sjn> What exactly do you want to limit? Connection's? Bandwidth? Latency? I wanna limit sessions first - in exampl. no more 20 tcp sessions from one ip ... sjn> ============================================================================= sjn> -Chris Watson (316) 326-3862 | FreeBSD Consultant, FreeBSD Geek sjn> Work: scanner@jurai.net | Open Systems Inc., Wellington, Kansas sjn> Home: scanner@deceptively.shady.org | http://open-systems.net sjn> ============================================================================= sjn> WINDOWS: "Where do you want to go today?" sjn> LINUX: "Where do you want to go tomorrow?" sjn> BSD: "Are you guys coming or what?" sjn> ============================================================================= sjn> irc.openprojects.net #FreeBSD -Join the revolution! sjn> ICQ: 20016186 Vaidas Damosevicius DELFI NOC To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Mon Mar 26 4:20:38 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mail.riic.uni-linz.ac.at (mail.riic.uni-linz.ac.at [140.78.161.130]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 104A837B71A for ; Mon, 26 Mar 2001 04:20:35 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from hueber@riic.at) Received: from riic.uni-linz.ac.at (hawkings.riic.uni-linz.ac.at [140.78.161.239]) by mail.riic.uni-linz.ac.at (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA20060; Mon, 26 Mar 2001 14:16:08 +0200 Message-ID: <3ABF32F6.627111F4@riic.uni-linz.ac.at> Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2001 14:15:50 +0200 From: Gernot Hueber X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [de] (WinNT; I) X-Accept-Language: de MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Vaidas Damosevicius Cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: TCP Sessions Limit References: <661036044703.20010326140240@delfi.lt> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Maybe ucspi-tcp tcpserver is what you are looking for?! It's in the sysutils ports section. It's a substitue for inetd told to work good under heavy load. Gernot Vaidas Damosevicius schrieb: > Hello, > > I have some freebsd boxes as gw/fw in out network and > about 400 users ... Is it possible to limit users TCP sessions > on my fbsd gw/fw ? ipfw can't do it, maybe where are some other > tools to do it ? > > Thank you. > > Vaidas Damosevicius > DELFI NOC > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message -- Dipl.-Ing. Gernot Hueber Institut für Integrierte Schaltungen Freistädter Strasse 315/2 A-4040 Linz Tel: +43 732 2468-7122, Fax: -7126 E-mail: hueber@riic.at To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Mon Mar 26 4:24:45 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from axis.tdd.lt (axis.tdd.lt [193.219.211.5]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6189737B719 for ; Mon, 26 Mar 2001 04:24:41 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from vaidas.damosevicius@delfi.lt) Received: from vd (office.delfi.lt [213.197.128.76]) by axis.tdd.lt (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f2QCOd801200 for ; Mon, 26 Mar 2001 14:24:39 +0200 (EET) Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2001 14:26:21 +0200 From: Vaidas Damosevicius X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.51) Personal Reply-To: Vaidas Damosevicius Organization: DELFI INTERNET X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <761037465756.20010326142621@delfi.lt> To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: Re[2]: TCP Sessions Limit In-Reply-To: <3ABF32F6.627111F4@riic.uni-linz.ac.at> References: <661036044703.20010326140240@delfi.lt> <3ABF32F6.627111F4@riic.uni-linz.ac.at> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Monday, March 26, 2001, 2:15:50 PM, you wrote: GH> Maybe ucspi-tcp tcpserver is what you are looking for?! It's in the GH> sysutils ports section. It's a substitue GH> for inetd told to work good under heavy load. No ... my fbsd boxes works as gw/fw in our network and i wanna limit tcp sessions from users to outside internet on these boxes ... Where is no services on my boxes ... only ipfw :) GH> Gernot Vaidas Damosevicius DELFI NOC To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Mon Mar 26 4:25:37 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from axis.tdd.lt (axis.tdd.lt [193.219.211.5]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AA8E537B718 for ; Mon, 26 Mar 2001 04:25:32 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from domas.mituzas@delfi.lt) Received: from localhost (midom@localhost) by axis.tdd.lt (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f2QCPTY01532 for ; Mon, 26 Mar 2001 14:25:30 +0200 (EET) Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2001 14:25:29 +0200 (EET) From: Domas Mituzas X-Sender: midom@axis.tdd.lt To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: session-level bw limiting Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi, ucspi-tcp is a simple socket to stdin feeder, therefore, no bw limiting is available (same as inetd). Domas To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Mon Mar 26 5:20:19 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from apollo.ocsny.com (apollo.ocsny.com [204.107.76.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3E2DA37B719 for ; Mon, 26 Mar 2001 05:20:16 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mikel@ocsinternet.com) Received: from ocsinternet.com (thoth.upan.org [204.107.76.16]) by apollo.ocsny.com (8.9.2/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA66344; Mon, 26 Mar 2001 08:17:44 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <3ABF43A0.269AA7EB@ocsinternet.com> Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2001 08:26:56 -0500 From: Mikel X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.73 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en,it MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Daniel O'Callaghan" Cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: DSL services to apartments References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hmmm, well if it were me I would at the very least set up fBSD as a firewall/dhcpd/natd device and then smartswitch everyone behind it. This would be best if you intend on charging for bw/access as you can now grap line stats. Most importantly it saves you the trouble of having to assign ips and all that...(but then again that really is no bother...).. just my $0.01.... Cheers, Mikel Daniel O'Callaghan wrote: > I'm thinking of providing Internet access to an apartment block via a DSL > line. DSL is new to Melbourne and I have not actually used one myself, > yet, so please bear with me. I get the impression that the best way to do > this is: > > Internet > | > DSLRouter-----[SWITCH] > | | | | > A B C D...etc > > I'd like to use a FreeBSD box in place of SWITCH, but there is an issue of > port density. > > If the above scenario is appropriate then I can use either a dumb switch > or a programmable switch. The dumb switch would allow people to see PCs > in other apartments. The programmable switch could prevent that. > > Can anyone let me know (a) is it worth putting in the programmable switch, > or should I just tell people to secure their own PCs; (b) what are > people's recommendations for a low cost per port programmable switch? > > Also, is there a completely different approach that I should consider? > I'm open to any suggestions, provided the cost to the end user is > realistic. > > Thanks, > > Danny > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Mon Mar 26 5:32:54 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from ftp.nvg.com (ftp.nvg.com [199.179.254.6]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E977537B718 for ; Mon, 26 Mar 2001 05:32:46 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from Ed.Henderson@Certainty.net) Received: from pnt004 (vsat-148-63-55-208.c1.sb4.mcl.starband.net [148.63.55.208]) by ftp.nvg.com (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) with SMTP id IAA22168 for ; Mon, 26 Mar 2001 08:27:32 -0500 (EST) From: "Ed Henderson" To: Subject: Cyclades opinions.... Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2001 08:27:14 -0500 Message-ID: <001001c0b5f8$790a2a00$0464a8c0@pnt004> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 In-Reply-To: Importance: Normal Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I am small rural ISP considering purchasing a new Cyclades PR4000 access = server that has up to 48 digital modems for $7600 and includes lifetime = tech support. Does anyone have an opinion or experience with Cyclades? = If it is a bad move then what do you recommend? MAXs are too expensive = new and Lucent tech support is out of site in price! Too bad Lucent has = discontinued the PM line. Thanks for any input, Ed. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Mon Mar 26 5:37:14 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mail.riic.uni-linz.ac.at (mail.riic.uni-linz.ac.at [140.78.161.130]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 80FD737B71A for ; Mon, 26 Mar 2001 05:37:10 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from hueber@riic.at) Received: from riic.uni-linz.ac.at (hawkings.riic.uni-linz.ac.at [140.78.161.239]) by mail.riic.uni-linz.ac.at (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA20827; Mon, 26 Mar 2001 15:32:50 +0200 Message-ID: <3ABF44EF.33652A14@riic.uni-linz.ac.at> Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2001 15:32:31 +0200 From: Gernot Hueber X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [de] (WinNT; I) X-Accept-Language: de MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Vaidas Damosevicius Cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: TCP Sessions Limit References: <661036044703.20010326140240@delfi.lt> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org 2nd try... Have a look at delegate (ports->net). It's a tcp proxy handling a lot of protocols, and some sort of access control. Gernot Vaidas Damosevicius schrieb: > Hello, > > I have some freebsd boxes as gw/fw in out network and > about 400 users ... Is it possible to limit users TCP sessions > on my fbsd gw/fw ? ipfw can't do it, maybe where are some other > tools to do it ? > > Thank you. > > Vaidas Damosevicius > DELFI NOC > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message -- Dipl.-Ing. Gernot Hueber Institut für Integrierte Schaltungen Freistädter Strasse 315/2 A-4040 Linz Tel: +43 732 2468-7122, Fax: -7126 E-mail: hueber@riic.at To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Mon Mar 26 5:46:45 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from sasami.jurai.net (sasami.jurai.net [64.0.106.45]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 050B737B718 for ; Mon, 26 Mar 2001 05:46:43 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from scanner@jurai.net) Received: from localhost (scanner@localhost) by sasami.jurai.net (8.9.3/8.8.7) with ESMTP id IAA45865; Mon, 26 Mar 2001 08:46:23 -0500 (EST) Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2001 08:46:23 -0500 (EST) From: To: Gernot Hueber Cc: Vaidas Damosevicius , freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: TCP Sessions Limit In-Reply-To: <3ABF44EF.33652A14@riic.uni-linz.ac.at> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Mon, 26 Mar 2001, Gernot Hueber wrote: > 2nd try... > > Have a look at delegate (ports->net). It's a tcp proxy handling a lot of > protocols, and some sort of access control. Well the last time I looked, that would be like cutting your wrist off to get a drop of blood. It was TOTALLY full of security holes. I would audit that thing like crazy before using it. It was so bad it was marked broken because of the insecure nature. And since this would run on his firewall I would doubly check the source for it. ============================================================================= -Chris Watson (316) 326-3862 | FreeBSD Consultant, FreeBSD Geek Work: scanner@jurai.net | Open Systems Inc., Wellington, Kansas Home: scanner@deceptively.shady.org | http://open-systems.net ============================================================================= WINDOWS: "Where do you want to go today?" LINUX: "Where do you want to go tomorrow?" BSD: "Are you guys coming or what?" ============================================================================= irc.openprojects.net #FreeBSD -Join the revolution! ICQ: 20016186 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Mon Mar 26 6:11:36 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from bilver.wjv.com (dhcp-1-158.n01.orldfl01.us.ra.verio.net [157.238.210.158]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 86E2E37B718 for ; Mon, 26 Mar 2001 06:11:33 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from bill@bilver.wjv.com) Received: (from bill@localhost) by bilver.wjv.com (8.11.1/8.11.1) id f2QEBQs23727; Mon, 26 Mar 2001 09:11:26 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from bill) Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2001 09:10:18 -0500 From: Bill Vermillion To: Ed Henderson Cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Cyclades opinions.... Message-ID: <20010326091018.A23690@wjv.com> Reply-To: bv@wjv.com References: <001001c0b5f8$790a2a00$0464a8c0@pnt004> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <001001c0b5f8$790a2a00$0464a8c0@pnt004>; from Ed.Henderson@Certainty.net on Mon, Mar 26, 2001 at 08:27:14AM -0500 Organization: W.J.Vermillion / Orlando - Winter Park Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Mon, Mar 26, 2001 at 08:27:14AM -0500, Ed Henderson thus spoke: > I am small rural ISP considering purchasing a new Cyclades PR4000 > access server that has up to 48 digital modems for $7600 and > includes lifetime tech support. Does anyone have an opinion or > experience with Cyclades? If it is a bad move then what do you > recommend? MAXs are too expensive new and Lucent tech support is > out of site in price! Too bad Lucent has discontinued the PM line. Lucent PM's are on the user market a reasonable prices. We picked up one just for a few ISDN line. The problem with something like that you typically need modems to go along with it. The Max's are becoming cheaper if you don't mind used equipment. Since so many people appear to be upgrading to get higher density in one box [I was in a carrier recently and there were racks of Maxes - serving about 36000 line], the smaller one are on the used market. At another place I used to work with we needed to handle ISDN only so we picked up a used Max with 33K modems - as everyone was upgrading to digital - with 2 PRI's for $3K. As I will agree that Lucent's tech support is way out of line. -- Bill Vermillion - bv @ wjv . com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Mon Mar 26 6:26:25 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from cody.jharris.com (cody.jharris.com [205.238.128.83]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F393E37B71D for ; Mon, 26 Mar 2001 06:26:18 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from nick@rogness.net) Received: from localhost (nick@localhost) by cody.jharris.com (8.11.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id f2QEWqO57953; Mon, 26 Mar 2001 08:32:52 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from nick@rogness.net) Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2001 08:32:52 -0600 (CST) From: Nick Rogness X-Sender: nick@cody.jharris.com To: Ed Henderson Cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Cyclades opinions.... In-Reply-To: <001001c0b5f8$790a2a00$0464a8c0@pnt004> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Mon, 26 Mar 2001, Ed Henderson wrote: > I am small rural ISP considering purchasing a new Cyclades PR4000 > access server that has up to 48 digital modems for $7600 and includes > lifetime tech support. Does anyone have an opinion or experience with > Cyclades? If it is a bad move then what do you recommend? MAXs are > too expensive new and Lucent tech support is out of site in price! > Too bad Lucent has discontinued the PM line. Buy a used Portmaster. I know used PM3's are not that expensive. You can find them out on the net if you look hard enough (sorry don't have a link) Nick Rogness - Keep on Routing in a Free World... "FreeBSD: The Power to Serve!" To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Mon Mar 26 7:19:12 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from ady.warpnet.ro (ady.warpnet.ro [194.102.224.8]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D597937B719; Mon, 26 Mar 2001 07:19:03 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from ady@warpnet.ro) Received: from localhost (ady@localhost) by ady.warpnet.ro (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id SAA08251; Mon, 26 Mar 2001 18:19:32 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from ady@warpnet.ro) Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2001 18:19:32 +0300 (EEST) From: Adrian Penisoara To: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: SkyStar-1 DVB card driver for FreeBSD ? Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi, Where can I find a FreeBSD driver for Technisat's SkyStar-1 DVB card ? Are there any DVB cards with working drivers for FreeBSD ? Thanks, Ady (@warpnet.ro) __________________________________________________________________ | "Be vewy vewy quiet, I'm hunting wuntime ewwors!" - Elmer Fudd | To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Mon Mar 26 8:10: 6 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from titanic.medinet.si (titanic.medinet.si [212.18.32.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6C9F937B71A for ; Mon, 26 Mar 2001 08:10:02 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from blaz@amis.net) Received: by titanic.medinet.si (Postfix, from userid 1000) id B10F426C02; Mon, 26 Mar 2001 18:10:00 +0200 (CEST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by titanic.medinet.si (Postfix) with ESMTP id A067C11717; Mon, 26 Mar 2001 18:10:00 +0200 (CEST) Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2001 18:10:00 +0200 (CEST) From: Blaz Zupan To: Nick Rogness Cc: Ed Henderson , Subject: Re: Cyclades opinions.... In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > Buy a used Portmaster. I know used PM3's are not that expensive. > You can find them out on the net if you look hard enough (sorry > don't have a link) Don't do it. You'll die of modem problems and won't get any software updates for it because they are discontinued. Blaz Zupan, Medinet d.o.o, Linhartova 21, 2000 Maribor, Slovenia E-mail: blaz@amis.net, Tel: +386-2-320-6320, Fax: +386-2-320-6325 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Mon Mar 26 8:11: 3 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from EnContacto.Net (adsl-63-205-16-205.dsl.mtry01.pacbell.net [63.205.16.205]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E399337B718 for ; Mon, 26 Mar 2001 08:10:59 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from eculp@EnContacto.Net) Received: (from root@localhost) by EnContacto.Net (8.11.3/8.11.3) id f2QGAf583100; Mon, 26 Mar 2001 08:10:41 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from eculp@EnContacto.Net) Received: from 63.205.16.202 ( [63.205.16.202]) as user eculp@EnContacto.Net by Mail.PasionLatina.Org with HTTP; Mon, 26 Mar 2001 08:10:40 -0800 Message-ID: <985623040.3abf6a00b401e@Mail.PasionLatina.Org> Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2001 08:10:40 -0800 From: "Edwin L. Culp" To: Hugh Blandford Cc: Mark Newton , "Daniel O'Callaghan" , freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: DSL services to apartments References: <00eb01c0b5ab$e7025a20$088ea8c0@island.net.au> <20010326154512.B74711@internode.com.au> <004d01c0b5c4$2be4b440$088ea8c0@island.net.au> In-Reply-To: <004d01c0b5c4$2be4b440$088ea8c0@island.net.au> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit User-Agent: Internet Messaging Program (IMP) 2.3.7-cvs X-Originating-IP: 63.205.16.202 Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org What about an 802.11b access point? How would the law look at wireless agregation? IMO, with apartments, the installation should be faster, non-destructive and cheaper. ed Quoting Hugh Blandford : > Hi > > > On Mon, Mar 26, 2001 at 02:19:06PM +1000, Hugh Blandford wrote: > > > > > I'm afraid that your main problem is going to be the communications > > > regulations in Australia. You will have to check with the ACA or read > the > > > 1997 Telecommunications Act but I believe you are only capable of > running 5 > > > lines to third parties. After that you are considered to be a Telco > and you > > > will need to get a Telco licence. > > > > > > You made a typo: You mentioned "5 lines" instead of "1 line." > > I had another look, though not being a lawyer reading the act is a bit of a > guess but > > section 26 basically means you can't have a single line over 500 metres. > Not too hard in an apartment block. > > section 27 says that your aggregate of lines connecting distinct places > can't be over 5 kilometers. > > So maybe you will be OK but as the ACA says you had better get a > professional opinion. > > You can have a read at: > > http://www.austlii.edu.au/au/legis/cth/consol_act/ta1997214/ > > > Regards, > > Hugh > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message > -- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Mon Mar 26 8:12:34 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from cody.jharris.com (cody.jharris.com [205.238.128.83]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6C57637B71B for ; Mon, 26 Mar 2001 08:12:32 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from nick@rogness.net) Received: from localhost (nick@localhost) by cody.jharris.com (8.11.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id f2QGJ2Z58401; Mon, 26 Mar 2001 10:19:02 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from nick@rogness.net) Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2001 10:19:02 -0600 (CST) From: Nick Rogness X-Sender: nick@cody.jharris.com To: Blaz Zupan Cc: Ed Henderson , freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Cyclades opinions.... In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Mon, 26 Mar 2001, Blaz Zupan wrote: > > Buy a used Portmaster. I know used PM3's are not that expensive. > > You can find them out on the net if you look hard enough (sorry > > don't have a link) > > Don't do it. You'll die of modem problems and won't get any software updates > for it because they are discontinued. That is true. However, you will have to spend more to get more ;-) It's as simple as that. Nick Rogness - Keep on Routing in a Free World... "FreeBSD: The Power to Serve!" To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Mon Mar 26 8:37:37 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from relay.tecc.co.uk (luggage.tecc.co.uk [193.128.6.129]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id AFF1E37B719 for ; Mon, 26 Mar 2001 08:37:32 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from andy@tecc.co.uk) Received: from fw-smtp.tecc.co.uk [195.217.37.39] by relay.tecc.co.uk with esmtp (Exim 1.70 #1) id 14hZzf-00017R-00; Mon, 26 Mar 2001 17:37:23 +0100 Received: from [195.217.37.155] (helo=southampton) by fw-smtp.tecc.co.uk with smtp (Exim 2.12 #3) id 14hZxV-00042a-00; Mon, 26 Mar 2001 17:35:09 +0100 From: "Andy [Tecc Nops]" To: "Blaz Zupan" , "Nick Rogness" Cc: "Ed Henderson" , Subject: RE: Cyclades opinions.... Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2001 17:37:49 +0100 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) In-Reply-To: Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org >> Buy a used Portmaster. I know used PM3's are not that expensive. >> You can find them out on the net if you look hard enough (sorry >> don't have a link) > Don't do it. You'll die of modem problems and won't get any software updates > for it because they are discontinued. Odd, been using PM3s for years with never a single failure. Only ever was a prob when the new V90 came out and that was sloppy V90 code in the modems. Once it settled again never a problem with them. I found them to be as stable as FreeBSD! (Dunno about PM2s though, never used them) Ak To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Mon Mar 26 8:54: 4 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mailman.thenap.com (mailman.thenap.com [209.190.0.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 562ED37B718 for ; Mon, 26 Mar 2001 08:54:00 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from drew.weaver@thenap.com) Received: by mailman.thenap.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) id ; Mon, 26 Mar 2001 12:07:27 -0500 Message-ID: From: "Drew J. Weaver" To: "'Andy [Tecc Nops]'" Cc: "'freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG'" Subject: RE: Cyclades opinions.... Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2001 12:07:26 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----_=_NextPart_001_01C0B617.3B80889A" Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C0B617.3B80889A Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Max 4048s are far superior to any Portmaster product, and Max TNTs are even better. Thanks, -Drew -----Original Message----- From: Andy [Tecc Nops] [mailto:andy@tecc.co.uk] Sent: Monday, March 26, 2001 11:38 AM To: Blaz Zupan; Nick Rogness Cc: Ed Henderson; freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: RE: Cyclades opinions.... >> Buy a used Portmaster. I know used PM3's are not that expensive. >> You can find them out on the net if you look hard enough (sorry >> don't have a link) > Don't do it. You'll die of modem problems and won't get any software updates > for it because they are discontinued. Odd, been using PM3s for years with never a single failure. Only ever was a prob when the new V90 came out and that was sloppy V90 code in the modems. Once it settled again never a problem with them. I found them to be as stable as FreeBSD! (Dunno about PM2s though, never used them) Ak To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message ------_=_NextPart_001_01C0B617.3B80889A Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" RE: Cyclades opinions....

Max 4048s are far superior to any Portmaster product, and Max TNTs are even better.

Thanks,
-Drew


-----Original Message-----
From: Andy [Tecc Nops] [mailto:andy@tecc.co.uk]
Sent: Monday, March 26, 2001 11:38 AM
To: Blaz Zupan; Nick Rogness
Cc: Ed Henderson; freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject: RE: Cyclades opinions....


>>      Buy a used Portmaster.  I know used PM3's are not that expensive.
>>      You can find them out on the net if you look hard enough (sorry
>>      don't have a link)

> Don't do it. You'll die of modem problems and won't get any software
updates
> for it because they are discontinued.

Odd, been using PM3s for years with never a single failure.
Only ever was a prob when the new V90 came out and that
was sloppy V90 code in the modems. Once it settled again
never a problem with them. I found them to be as stable
as FreeBSD! (Dunno about PM2s though, never used them)

Ak


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------_=_NextPart_001_01C0B617.3B80889A-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Mon Mar 26 9:43:12 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from titanic.medinet.si (titanic.medinet.si [212.18.32.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AE2A137B719 for ; Mon, 26 Mar 2001 09:43:10 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from blaz@amis.net) Received: by titanic.medinet.si (Postfix, from userid 1000) id AA7E926C02; Mon, 26 Mar 2001 19:43:08 +0200 (CEST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by titanic.medinet.si (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9996A11710; Mon, 26 Mar 2001 19:43:08 +0200 (CEST) Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2001 19:43:08 +0200 (CEST) From: Blaz Zupan To: "Andy [Tecc Nops]" Cc: Subject: RE: Cyclades opinions.... In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > Odd, been using PM3s for years with never a single failure. > Only ever was a prob when the new V90 came out and that > was sloppy V90 code in the modems. Once it settled again > never a problem with them. I found them to be as stable > as FreeBSD! (Dunno about PM2s though, never used them) The PM3 was a very nice product, as long as V90 was not around. When the new V90 cards replaced the old V34 ones, the problems started. The death penalty was spoken by Lucent when they bought Livingston. We lived with PM3 for years, but finally had to give up and switch to Maxen, when our tech support line was overflowed with modem problems. We happily lived every after :) Blaz Zupan, Medinet d.o.o, Linhartova 21, 2000 Maribor, Slovenia E-mail: blaz@amis.net, Tel: +386-2-320-6320, Fax: +386-2-320-6325 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Mon Mar 26 9:48:27 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from titanic.medinet.si (titanic.medinet.si [212.18.32.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3A8AF37B71A for ; Mon, 26 Mar 2001 09:48:25 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from blaz@amis.net) Received: by titanic.medinet.si (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 5D5C726C02; Mon, 26 Mar 2001 19:48:24 +0200 (CEST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by titanic.medinet.si (Postfix) with ESMTP id 51D0B11710; Mon, 26 Mar 2001 19:48:24 +0200 (CEST) Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2001 19:48:24 +0200 (CEST) From: Blaz Zupan To: "Drew J. Weaver" Cc: "'freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG'" Subject: RE: Cyclades opinions.... In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > Max 4048s are far superior to any Portmaster product, and Max TNTs are even > better. Of course the Max 4048 is an obsolete product as well with no software updates beyond 7.x.x. I'd say buying into an obsolete product at this point is a bad choice. Yes, if you're a company offering dialup to your employees, sure, buy whatever fits you, if anybody complains just tell them to go to hell :) But if you're an ISP, buying into an obsolete and unsupported platform (PM3, Max 4048) is a big mistake. You'll lose tons of customers on mistakes like this. Blaz Zupan, Medinet d.o.o, Linhartova 21, 2000 Maribor, Slovenia E-mail: blaz@amis.net, Tel: +386-2-320-6320, Fax: +386-2-320-6325 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Mon Mar 26 10: 0:56 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from ftp.nvg.com (ftp.nvg.com [199.179.254.6]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4078537B71A for ; Mon, 26 Mar 2001 10:00:54 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from Ed.Henderson@Certainty.net) Received: from pnt004 (vsat-148-63-55-208.c1.sb4.mcl.starband.net [148.63.55.208]) by ftp.nvg.com (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) with SMTP id MAA25454; Mon, 26 Mar 2001 12:55:09 -0500 (EST) From: "Ed Henderson" To: "'Blaz Zupan'" , "'Nick Rogness'" Cc: Subject: RE: Cyclades opinions.... Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2001 12:54:46 -0500 Message-ID: <004101c0b61d$d8e58080$0464a8c0@pnt004> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 In-Reply-To: Importance: Normal Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > > Buy a used Portmaster. I know used PM3's are not that=20 > expensive. > > You can find them out on the net if you look hard enough (sorry > > don't have a link) >=20 > Don't do it. You'll die of modem problems and won't get any=20 > software updates > for it because they are discontinued. >=20 >=20 Good point since the V.92 standard is coming soon. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Mon Mar 26 10:59:50 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from hot.sand.net (sand.net [153.105.100.100]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1B9D737B71D; Mon, 26 Mar 2001 10:59:38 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jclark@teamasa.com) Received: from teamasa.com ([63.221.93.164]) by hot.sand.net (8.10.2/8.10.2) with ESMTP id f2QILlC08315; Mon, 26 Mar 2001 10:21:49 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <3ABF93E9.23F5EA4C@teamasa.com> Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2001 11:10:15 -0800 From: John Clark Organization: Team ASA X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.75 (Macintosh; U; PPC) X-Accept-Language: en,pdf MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Kenneth D. Merry" Cc: Dennis , "Schmalzbauer, Harald" , hackers@FreeBSD.ORG, isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: AW: Best Gigabit ethernet for 4.x References: <5.0.0.25.0.20001118113245.032d3130@mail.etinc.com> <20001118150437.A15956@panzer.kdm.org> <5.0.0.25.0.20010324122812.038f4eb0@mail.etinc.com> <20010324124511.A18612@panzer.kdm.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org "Kenneth D. Merry" wrote: > On Sat, Mar 24, 2001 at 12:31:05 -0500, Dennis wrote: > > At 05:04 PM 11/18/2000, Kenneth D. Merry wrote: > > >On Sat, Nov 18, 2000 at 11:33:29 -0500, Dennis wrote: > > > > At 04:28 PM 11/17/2000, Schmalzbauer, Harald wrote: > > > > >I just heard that Intel doesn't supply documentation on ther chipset > > > and the > > > > >FreeBSD and Linux support is quiet bad. The Netgear GA620 is said to be > > > > >twice as fast. The same Chipset (Alteon Tigon/AceNIC) is on the 3com985. As far as I know, 3com has purchased the Alteon adaptor business, hence all 'Alteon' cards are now 3com. In addition, the 'open firmware' that was available from Alteon is no longer available from 3com. (If this has changed in the last few weeks, I am unaware of that.) Hence, one should perhaps take as many snapshots around the various archives of 'working drivers' to have some set of stuff to support the cards. There was mention of a site where a 'last snapshot' of Alteon's open driver open firmware stuff is located, however, I'd have to check my archives to find out what it is, and I don't know if it still available. As for 'intel' support, there is a driver for their gigabit chip for linux, and so the enterprizing person could perhaps get that driver, modify it for FreeBSD use, ie change skb stuff to mbuf, etc. without violating any NDA. As for different 'Tigon' versions based on Alteon's design, the typical memory complements are .5 Meg, and 1 Meg. The 1 Meg would out perform the .5 Meg, but only (in my opinion) in a backplane that supported 66 Mhz/64 bit operation. the typical 33/32 PCI implementation found in most PC would not show a significant difference in performance. Personally I hate the attitude and policies expressed by the NDA on chips that are long out of development. I can understand it for 'new on the block' designs, as that is how competition works. But once a chip has moved from the prototype sample mode into full production, I think the chip manufactures should publish publically on the web (where it is almost 'cost less' to do so) for all implementers to have the information. As it is, it seems in terms of Intel and other chip manufacturers more profitable to make 'strategic' business partnerships with 'big software houses' (for example, buying a stake in LynxOS now LynxOS Works and Blue Cat Linux), than to let the world have a crack at the information. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Mon Mar 26 11:47: 3 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from bilver.wjv.com (dhcp-1-170.n01.orldfl01.us.ra.verio.net [157.238.210.170]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2A52437B719 for ; Mon, 26 Mar 2001 11:46:50 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from bill@bilver.wjv.com) Received: (from bill@localhost) by bilver.wjv.com (8.11.1/8.11.1) id f2QJigl25787; Mon, 26 Mar 2001 14:44:42 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from bill) Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2001 14:37:37 -0500 From: Bill Vermillion To: Blaz Zupan Cc: "Drew J. Weaver" , "'freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG'" Subject: Re: Cyclades opinions.... Message-ID: <20010326143737.C25314@wjv.com> Reply-To: bv@wjv.com References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: ; from blaz@amis.net on Mon, Mar 26, 2001 at 07:48:24PM +0200 Organization: W.J.Vermillion / Orlando - Winter Park Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Mon, Mar 26, 2001 at 07:48:24PM +0200, Blaz Zupan thus spoke: > > Max 4048s are far superior to any Portmaster product, and Max > > TNTs are even better. > Of course the Max 4048 is an obsolete product as well with no > software updates beyond 7.x.x. I'd say buying into an obsolete > product at this point is a bad choice. Yes, if you're a company > offering dialup to your employees, sure, buy whatever fits you, if > anybody complains just tell them to go to hell :) But if you're an > ISP, buying into an obsolete and unsupported platform (PM3, Max > 4048) is a big mistake. You'll lose tons of customers on mistakes > like this. We bought a used 4048 - that had obsolete modems in it - for just one purpose. It was used for incoming ISDN and worked quite well for that at great savings. And all ISP's aren't the same. I have a PM - bought it cheap - only for the the ISDN lines coming into that [not the same as the above place]. It will also only be be used for emergency access ot the system. Customers will be ADSL/ISDN/T1 [or faster] only. So it depends on your needs - used is good in the proper place - but not all places are proper :-) Bill -- Bill Vermillion - bv @ wjv . com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Mon Mar 26 13:31:16 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from gizmo.internode.com.au (gizmo.internode.com.au [192.83.231.115]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1E7B637B719 for ; Mon, 26 Mar 2001 13:31:14 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from newton@gizmo.internode.com.au) Received: (from newton@localhost) by gizmo.internode.com.au (8.11.0/8.9.3) id f2QLRNZ78640; Tue, 27 Mar 2001 06:57:23 +0930 (CST) (envelope-from newton) Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2001 06:57:23 +0930 From: Mark Newton To: "Edwin L. Culp" Cc: Hugh Blandford , "Daniel O'Callaghan" , freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: DSL services to apartments Message-ID: <20010327065723.A78625@internode.com.au> References: <00eb01c0b5ab$e7025a20$088ea8c0@island.net.au> <20010326154512.B74711@internode.com.au> <004d01c0b5c4$2be4b440$088ea8c0@island.net.au> <985623040.3abf6a00b401e@Mail.PasionLatina.Org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0pre3i In-Reply-To: <985623040.3abf6a00b401e@Mail.PasionLatina.Org> X-PGP-Key: http://www.on.net/~newton/pgpkey.txt Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Mon, Mar 26, 2001 at 08:10:40AM -0800, Edwin L. Culp wrote: > What about an 802.11b access point? How would the law look at wireless > agregation? The same way -- The ACA doesn't care whether a link is implemented with copper, fibre, or microwave. They've recently sent letters to several hundred ISPs they suspect might be involved in sale to the public over 802.11 warning them that perhaps they should be buying services from carriers, or getting their own carrier license. - mark -- Mark Newton Email: newton@internode.com.au (W) Network Engineer Email: newton@atdot.dotat.org (H) Internode Systems Pty Ltd Desk: +61-8-82232999 "Network Man" - Anagram of "Mark Newton" Mobile: +61-416-202-223 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Mon Mar 26 14: 6:49 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from cleopatra.aha.ru (cleopatra.zenon.net [195.2.72.69]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CA51937B71A for ; Mon, 26 Mar 2001 14:06:41 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from shurick@zenon.net) Received: from [192.168.9.150] (HELO mp.aha.ru) by cleopatra.aha.ru (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 3.4.1) with ESMTP id 1545163; Tue, 27 Mar 2001 01:06:41 +0400 Received: from sadm.jam.zenon.net ([192.168.13.67] verified) by mp.aha.ru (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 3.4.1) with ESMTP id 5978483; Tue, 27 Mar 2001 01:06:40 +0400 Message-ID: X-Mailer: XFMail 1.3.1 [p0] on FreeBSD X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2001 01:06:40 +0400 (MSD) Organization: Zenon N.S.P. From: Alexander Radunsky To: Adrian Penisoara Subject: RE: SkyStar-1 DVB card driver for FreeBSD ? Cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On 26-Mar-01 Adrian Penisoara wrote: Good $Greetings_time. > Hi, > > Where can I find a FreeBSD driver for Technisat's SkyStar-1 DVB card ? On the server http://freebsddvb.narod.ru At this time this server seems to be not working properly, but here's archive with mirror of this site made February, 12 http://www.aha.ru/~shurick/freebsddvb.narod.ru.tar.gz Unfortunately bundled documentation wrote on Russian but English appearance the base points would be enough ;) Bundled source sstest.c stands for testing connection and tuning to transponder (hardcoded EOL's Astra-1 #103 - see code where comments in English) .In the first string set your upstream connection interface ( #define network_device ) While running sstest without parameters look to the "sync" parameter - in case of successful tuning it's value will be "127" > Are there any DVB cards with working drivers for FreeBSD ? > > Thanks, > Ady (@warpnet.ro) > __________________________________________________________________ >| "Be vewy vewy quiet, I'm hunting wuntime ewwors!" - Elmer Fudd | > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message -- Alexander A. Radunsky Zenon N.S.P. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Mon Mar 26 22:13:23 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from moat.teksupport.net.au (moat.teksupport.net.au [203.17.1.98]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BFEC537B719 for ; Mon, 26 Mar 2001 22:13:20 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from robseco@teksupport.net.au) Received: from magician.teksupport.net.au (robseco.secombe [192.168.1.2]) by moat.teksupport.net.au (8.11.0/8.11.0) with SMTP id f2R6JaE69128 for ; Tue, 27 Mar 2001 16:19:39 +1000 (EST) (envelope-from robseco@teksupport.net.au) Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.20010327161308.042775e0@secombe> X-Sender: robseco@secombe X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2001 16:13:08 +1000 To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org From: Rob Secombe Subject: ISP in Brisbane Australia Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi all, We have a customer that is looking for a permanent 56k Internet connection in Brisbane Australia and would prefer to keep it in the FreeBSD fold if possible. Anyone on the list able to help out? Cheers Rob Secombe (RS39-AU) Engineering Director Teksupport Pty. Ltd. 7 Warwick Avenue, Springvale, Melbourne Australia 3171 Ph. +61 3 9562 4577 Fx. +61 3 9547 0320 http://www.teksupport.net.au/ PGP Key http://www.teksupport.net.au/~robseco/robseco.asc To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Tue Mar 27 8:35:48 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from et-gw.etinc.com (et-gw.etinc.com [207.252.1.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E330537B719; Tue, 27 Mar 2001 08:35:42 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from dennis@etinc.com) Received: from dbsys.etinc.com (dbsys.etinc.com [207.252.1.18]) by et-gw.etinc.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA17334; Tue, 27 Mar 2001 11:36:22 GMT (envelope-from dennis@etinc.com) Message-Id: <5.0.0.25.0.20010327114516.03c4f560@mail.etinc.com> X-Sender: dennis@mail.etinc.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.0 Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2001 11:52:08 -0500 To: John Clark , "Kenneth D. Merry" From: Dennis Subject: Re: AW: Best Gigabit ethernet for 4.x Cc: "Schmalzbauer, Harald" , hackers@FreeBSD.ORG, isp@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <3ABF93E9.23F5EA4C@teamasa.com> References: <5.0.0.25.0.20001118113245.032d3130@mail.etinc.com> <20001118150437.A15956@panzer.kdm.org> <5.0.0.25.0.20010324122812.038f4eb0@mail.etinc.com> <20010324124511.A18612@panzer.kdm.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > >Personally I hate the attitude and policies expressed by the NDA on >chips that are long out of development. I can understand it for >'new on the block' designs, as that is how competition works. But >once a chip has moved from the prototype sample mode into >full production, I think the chip manufactures should publish >publically on the web (where it is almost 'cost less' to do so) >for all implementers to have the information. > >As it is, it seems in terms of Intel and other chip manufacturers >more profitable to make 'strategic' business partnerships with >'big software houses' (for example, buying a stake in LynxOS >now LynxOS Works and Blue Cat Linux), than to let the world have >a crack at the information. In order to "secure" those "big contracts" they have to give relative assurances that the resulting boards wont be cloned, allowing others to cash in on extensive software and marketing costs of these companies. Theres no sense spending big money to establish a market if anyone can come along and take away your margins by selling cut-rate hardware. Hopefully SOME of you understand this. Its not intel worried about their chips being cloned (they have a team of international lawyers to police that), its their partners that they are protecting. At some point some of you will get it. I think the best strategy is to get intel to have a freebsd driver (as they do for linux)...which would do more for freebsd than boycotting such products as some of you have suggested. Dennis To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Tue Mar 27 8:52:28 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from ftp.nvg.com (ftp.nvg.com [199.179.254.6]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 986B037B71A for ; Tue, 27 Mar 2001 08:52:25 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from Ed.Henderson@Certainty.net) Received: from pnt004 (vsat-148-63-55-208.c1.sb4.mcl.starband.net [148.63.55.208]) by ftp.nvg.com (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) with SMTP id LAA20782; Tue, 27 Mar 2001 11:47:09 -0500 (EST) From: "Ed Henderson" To: "'Bob Martin'" , Subject: RE: Good server motherboard? Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2001 11:46:47 -0500 Message-ID: <002f01c0b6dd$8538e560$0464a8c0@pnt004> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 In-reply-to: <3ABB91E2.C052C643@inu.net> Importance: Normal Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org You mention that I should consider software RAID if I only need level 1. = How much processing overhead is there? My system will be running with = a single 1.2GHz Athlon CPU. > -----Original Message----- > From: bob [mailto:bob]On Behalf Of Bob Martin > Sent: Friday, March 23, 2001 1:12 PM > To: Ed Henderson > Subject: Re: Good server motherboard? >=20 >=20 > Ed Henderson wrote: > >=20 > > I am planning to use FreeBSD as my primary OS for an ISP=20 > that I am starting. I am beginning my research for the best=20 > motherboard to use for a production environment. One that is=20 > reliable and performs well (with reliable being the number=20 > one priority!).. Here are some questions that I have: > A decision that has been proven by ISP's all over the world! >=20 > > 1. Does anyone have any suggestions for a good MB to use? =20 > Or what chipset is the best and most stable with FreeBSD? Or=20 > a suggestion where to look? > This is the wrong question. What processor[s] do you want to use? What > is your budget? Is the box going to be a rack mount? If so, how many > U's? (The second question is the most important!) >=20 > > 2. How about some that have built in RAID 1? > If you just want raid1, use vinum. (Software raid). I personally don't > like anything critical built into the board. It's much easier, and > faster, to change a bad SCSI controller than it is to change a MB. >=20 > > 3. Any inexpensive (but reliable) tape drive suggestions? > These are mutually exclusive for the most part, and also depend on how > big you need. > =20 > > Thanks to all, > > Ed. > >=20 > I think if you give us a little more information, we'll be=20 > able to give > you better answers. > --=20 > Bob Martin, CTO > InterNet Unlimited > http://www.inu.net > mailto:bob@inu.net >=20 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Tue Mar 27 9: 0:11 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from anaconda.acceleratedweb.net (anaconda.acceleratedweb.net [209.51.164.130]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 3188137B718 for ; Tue, 27 Mar 2001 09:00:08 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from simon@optinet.com) Received: (qmail 31473 invoked by uid 106); 27 Mar 2001 17:00:17 -0000 Received: from 66-65-36-21.nyc.rr.com (HELO sharky) (66.65.36.21) by anaconda.acceleratedweb.net with SMTP; 27 Mar 2001 17:00:17 -0000 From: "Simon" To: "Bob Martin" , "Ed Henderson" , "freebsd-isp@freebsd.org" Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2001 12:03:54 -0500 Reply-To: "Simon" X-Mailer: PMMail 2000 Professional (2.10.2010) For Windows 2000 (5.0.2195) In-Reply-To: <002f01c0b6dd$8538e560$0464a8c0@pnt004> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: RE: Good server motherboard? Message-Id: <20010327170008.3188137B718@hub.freebsd.org> Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I wanna do this too, but from what I found out, you can't boot off vinum volume. There is also no how-to, so it's not easy to setup if you never done it before. Small (not a ton of drives) hardware RAID is 10x easier to setup IMO. -Simon On Tue, 27 Mar 2001 11:46:47 -0500, Ed Henderson wrote: >You mention that I should consider software RAID if I only need level 1. How much processing overhead is there? My system will be running with a single 1.2GHz Athlon CPU. > >> -----Original Message----- >> From: bob [mailto:bob]On Behalf Of Bob Martin >> Sent: Friday, March 23, 2001 1:12 PM >> To: Ed Henderson >> Subject: Re: Good server motherboard? >> >> >> Ed Henderson wrote: >> > >> > I am planning to use FreeBSD as my primary OS for an ISP >> that I am starting. I am beginning my research for the best >> motherboard to use for a production environment. One that is >> reliable and performs well (with reliable being the number >> one priority!).. Here are some questions that I have: >> A decision that has been proven by ISP's all over the world! >> >> > 1. Does anyone have any suggestions for a good MB to use? >> Or what chipset is the best and most stable with FreeBSD? Or >> a suggestion where to look? >> This is the wrong question. What processor[s] do you want to use? What >> is your budget? Is the box going to be a rack mount? If so, how many >> U's? (The second question is the most important!) >> >> > 2. How about some that have built in RAID 1? >> If you just want raid1, use vinum. (Software raid). I personally don't >> like anything critical built into the board. It's much easier, and >> faster, to change a bad SCSI controller than it is to change a MB. >> >> > 3. Any inexpensive (but reliable) tape drive suggestions? >> These are mutually exclusive for the most part, and also depend on how >> big you need. >> >> > Thanks to all, >> > Ed. >> > >> I think if you give us a little more information, we'll be >> able to give >> you better answers. >> -- >> Bob Martin, CTO >> InterNet Unlimited >> http://www.inu.net >> mailto:bob@inu.net >> > > >To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org >with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Tue Mar 27 9:31:25 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from sasami.jurai.net (sasami.jurai.net [64.0.106.45]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B314C37B718 for ; Tue, 27 Mar 2001 09:31:21 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from scanner@jurai.net) Received: from localhost (scanner@localhost) by sasami.jurai.net (8.9.3/8.8.7) with ESMTP id MAA75577; Tue, 27 Mar 2001 12:31:01 -0500 (EST) Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2001 12:31:00 -0500 (EST) From: To: Simon Cc: Bob Martin , Ed Henderson , "freebsd-isp@freebsd.org" Subject: RE: Good server motherboard? In-Reply-To: <20010327170008.3188137B718@hub.freebsd.org> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Tue, 27 Mar 2001, Simon wrote: > I wanna do this too, but from what I found out, you can't boot off vinum volume. There is also no how-to, so it's not easy > to setup if you never done it before. Small (not a ton of drives) hardware RAID is 10x easier to setup IMO. First, you're MUA is horrid! Get a new mailer. Second there is a HOW-TO for Vinum. I have been working on it because well quite frankly the doc's for Vinum are horrid. They are not horrid if your greg or have done Vinum 10K times and can do it in your sleep. But if you're doing it for the first time there next to useless. For the Vinum HOW-TO see: http://www.jurai.net/~scanner/vinum-howto.html I would like examples from others on the different configurations of RAID. Once I complete the examples I will see about getting it submitted to the handbook. ============================================================================= -Chris Watson (316) 326-3862 | FreeBSD Consultant, FreeBSD Geek Work: scanner@jurai.net | Open Systems Inc., Wellington, Kansas Home: scanner@deceptively.shady.org | http://open-systems.net ============================================================================= WINDOWS: "Where do you want to go today?" LINUX: "Where do you want to go tomorrow?" BSD: "Are you guys coming or what?" ============================================================================= irc.openprojects.net #FreeBSD -Join the revolution! ICQ: 20016186 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Tue Mar 27 9:39:56 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from anaconda.acceleratedweb.net (anaconda.acceleratedweb.net [209.51.164.130]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 9967837B719 for ; Tue, 27 Mar 2001 09:39:52 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from simon@optinet.com) Received: (qmail 36365 invoked by uid 106); 27 Mar 2001 17:40:02 -0000 Received: from 66-65-36-21.nyc.rr.com (HELO sharky) (66.65.36.21) by anaconda.acceleratedweb.net with SMTP; 27 Mar 2001 17:40:02 -0000 From: "Simon" To: "scanner@jurai.net" Cc: "freebsd-isp@freebsd.org" Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2001 12:43:39 -0500 Reply-To: "Simon" X-Mailer: PMMail 2000 Professional (2.10.2010) For Windows 2000 (5.0.2195) In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: RE: Good server motherboard? Message-Id: <20010327173952.9967837B719@hub.freebsd.org> Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org My mailer is quite nice, I just forget to wrap the message sometimes, sorry. I don't want to set it to auto-wrap either. Anyhow, I'm looking at your how-to right now. Couldn't find it on the 'net, until now :-) FreeBSD.org ought to have a section with links to HOW-TOs or did I miss that too? :o -Simon On Tue, 27 Mar 2001 12:31:00 -0500 (EST), scanner@jurai.net wrote: >On Tue, 27 Mar 2001, Simon wrote: > >> I wanna do this too, but from what I found out, you can't boot off vinum volume. There is also no how-to, so it's not easy >> to setup if you never done it before. Small (not a ton of drives) hardware RAID is 10x easier to setup IMO. > > First, you're MUA is horrid! Get a new mailer. Second there is a >HOW-TO for Vinum. I have been working on it because well quite frankly the >doc's for Vinum are horrid. They are not horrid if your greg or have done >Vinum 10K times and can do it in your sleep. But if you're doing it for >the first time there next to useless. For the Vinum HOW-TO see: > >http://www.jurai.net/~scanner/vinum-howto.html > >I would like examples from others on the different configurations of RAID. >Once I complete the examples I will see about getting it submitted to the >handbook. > >============================================================ ================= >-Chris Watson (316) 326-3862 | FreeBSD Consultant, FreeBSD Geek >Work: scanner@jurai.net | Open Systems Inc., Wellington, Kansas >Home: scanner@deceptively.shady.org | http://open-systems.net >============================================================ ================= >WINDOWS: "Where do you want to go today?" >LINUX: "Where do you want to go tomorrow?" >BSD: "Are you guys coming or what?" >============================================================ ================= >irc.openprojects.net #FreeBSD -Join the revolution! >ICQ: 20016186 > > >To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org >with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Tue Mar 27 9:42:39 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from sasami.jurai.net (sasami.jurai.net [64.0.106.45]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C5CC437B718 for ; Tue, 27 Mar 2001 09:42:36 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from scanner@jurai.net) Received: from localhost (scanner@localhost) by sasami.jurai.net (8.9.3/8.8.7) with ESMTP id MAA75946; Tue, 27 Mar 2001 12:42:33 -0500 (EST) Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2001 12:42:33 -0500 (EST) From: To: Ed Henderson Cc: "'Bob Martin'" , freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: RE: Good server motherboard? In-Reply-To: <002f01c0b6dd$8538e560$0464a8c0@pnt004> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Tue, 27 Mar 2001, Ed Henderson wrote: > You mention that I should consider software RAID if I only need level 1. How much processing overhead is there? My system will be running with a single 1.2GHz Athlon CPU. Software RAID like Vinum has proven to be faster then HW RAID. Mainly because of HW Raid card's using poorly sized stripes. There is a benchmark test of Vinum vs some DPT Cards that brad knowles put on the web. If you want the URL I would be happy to dig it up for you. Vinum is FAST++, and you can enable softupdates on Vinum as well. So you get speed and reliability. And I use this combo on alot of Postfix mail servers for the mail queue. I couldn't be happier. Vinum is incredible. Now I just have to keep working on some decent doc's for it :-) ============================================================================= -Chris Watson (316) 326-3862 | FreeBSD Consultant, FreeBSD Geek Work: scanner@jurai.net | Open Systems Inc., Wellington, Kansas Home: scanner@deceptively.shady.org | http://open-systems.net ============================================================================= WINDOWS: "Where do you want to go today?" LINUX: "Where do you want to go tomorrow?" BSD: "Are you guys coming or what?" ============================================================================= irc.openprojects.net #FreeBSD -Join the revolution! ICQ: 20016186 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Tue Mar 27 9:48: 2 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from sasami.jurai.net (sasami.jurai.net [64.0.106.45]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0138937B71A for ; Tue, 27 Mar 2001 09:48:00 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from scanner@jurai.net) Received: from localhost (scanner@localhost) by sasami.jurai.net (8.9.3/8.8.7) with ESMTP id MAA76054; Tue, 27 Mar 2001 12:47:58 -0500 (EST) Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2001 12:47:58 -0500 (EST) From: To: Simon Cc: "freebsd-isp@freebsd.org" Subject: RE: Good server motherboard? In-Reply-To: <20010327173952.9967837B719@hub.freebsd.org> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Tue, 27 Mar 2001, Simon wrote: > My mailer is quite nice, I just forget to wrap the message sometimes, sorry. I > don't want to set it to auto-wrap either. Anyhow, I'm looking at your how-to > right now. Couldn't find it on the 'net, until now :-) FreeBSD.org ought to have > a section with links to HOW-TOs or did I miss that too? :o Didnt meant to tear youre head off abouty our mailer. It's just rahter annoying and getting more common for people to send out these hirrdly formatted mail's. It's getting to be a pet peeve. And you still didn't wrap your line's :-) It's not on the FreeBSD site yet because I don't want it there till it's finished :-) I don't mind people viewing it now, I just would like to see it have an example of all the different types of raid configurations with Vinum before it is part of the 'Official' Handboook. I'm sure you can understand that. Anyway feel free to view it, and pass it along to anyone who ever asks you for Vinum doc's. If there is anything missing please tell me. I value you're feedback. ============================================================================= -Chris Watson (316) 326-3862 | FreeBSD Consultant, FreeBSD Geek Work: scanner@jurai.net | Open Systems Inc., Wellington, Kansas Home: scanner@deceptively.shady.org | http://open-systems.net ============================================================================= WINDOWS: "Where do you want to go today?" LINUX: "Where do you want to go tomorrow?" BSD: "Are you guys coming or what?" ============================================================================= irc.openprojects.net #FreeBSD -Join the revolution! ICQ: 20016186 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Tue Mar 27 12:51:32 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from peak.mountin.net (peak.mountin.net [207.227.119.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B3DCA37B71D for ; Tue, 27 Mar 2001 12:51:27 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jeff-ml@mountin.net) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by peak.mountin.net (8.9.1/8.9.1) id OAA22029; Tue, 27 Mar 2001 14:51:20 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from jeff-ml@mountin.net) Received: from dial-139.tnt1.rac.cyberlynk.net(209.224.182.139) by peak.mountin.net via smap (V1.3) id sma022027; Tue Mar 27 14:50:58 2001 Message-Id: <4.3.2.20010327142640.02e18100@207.227.119.2> X-Sender: jeff-ml@207.227.119.2 X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 4.3 Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2001 14:48:59 -0600 To: , Ed Henderson From: "Jeffrey J. Mountin" Subject: RE: Good server motherboard? Cc: isp@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: References: <002f01c0b6dd$8538e560$0464a8c0@pnt004> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org At 12:42 PM 3/27/01 -0500, scanner@jurai.net wrote: >On Tue, 27 Mar 2001, Ed Henderson wrote: > > > You mention that I should consider software RAID if I only need level > 1. How much processing overhead is there? My system will be running > with a single 1.2GHz Athlon CPU. > > Software RAID like Vinum has proven to be faster then HW >RAID. Mainly because of HW Raid card's using poorly sized stripes. There >is a benchmark test of Vinum vs some DPT Cards that brad knowles put on >the web. If you want the URL I would be happy to dig it up for you. Vinum >is FAST++, and you can enable softupdates on Vinum as well. So you get >speed and reliability. And I use this combo on alot of Postfix mail >servers for the mail queue. I couldn't be happier. Vinum is >incredible. Now I just have to keep working on some decent doc's for it >:-) Processing overhead is negligible, even when rebuilding objects. The comparison with DPT doesn't apply to the newer cards, but in general Vinum and hardware raid are comparable in terms of performance. True, you cannot boot off a Vinum volume (yet), but there are several ways to allow for minimal downtime. Only problem that Vinum has is with RAID5, which bites various users from time to time. In most cases it is better to go with a 0+1 setup for better write performance than level 5. Another advantage is no special controller is needed. However, it would be advisable to have plexes ("mirrors") on different controllers to allow for hardware failure. Otherwise it should fit you low budget needs more than sufficiently. If the lack of boot support in Vinum is an issue that could be solved with a 2 port 3Ware card and a couple IDE drives. There are boards with onboard RAID support, but it is considered crude at this time and not a good solution for production servers. Check the -stable archives for more info on the Promise and HighPoint controllers. IMO, recovery is easier with Vinum than with hardware RAID and with a hot swap enclosure no downtime is needed. Some HW RAID controllers require booting a DOS disk or the FBSD drivers are not as yet full-featured. Of course with Vinum you need to write some kind of script to monitor things, but that goes with the territory. Jeff Mountin - jeff@mountin.net Systems/Network Administrator FreeBSD - the power to serve To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Tue Mar 27 13:17:52 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from ady.warpnet.ro (ady.warpnet.ro [194.102.224.8]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3E7DD37B718 for ; Tue, 27 Mar 2001 13:17:39 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from ady@warpnet.ro) Received: from localhost (ady@localhost) by ady.warpnet.ro (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id AAA72078; Wed, 28 Mar 2001 00:18:00 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from ady@warpnet.ro) Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2001 00:18:00 +0300 (EEST) From: Adrian Penisoara To: Alexander Radunsky Cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: RE: SkyStar-1 DVB card driver for FreeBSD ? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi, I've got bad news: I have the (newer) SkyStar-2 version, not SkyStar-1. It has a different PCI signature and a different chipset. I forced the driver to probe the new PCI signature but (expectedly) the card doesn't initialize correctly. I renew the question now: does anyone have a SkyStar-2 version of the driver ?... Hopefully I should manage to switch the card with a SkyStar-1 one, but if not... Thank you! Ady (@warpnet.ro) On Tue, 27 Mar 2001, Alexander Radunsky wrote: > > On 26-Mar-01 Adrian Penisoara wrote: > > Good $Greetings_time. > > > Hi, > > > > Where can I find a FreeBSD driver for Technisat's SkyStar-1 DVB card ? > > On the server http://freebsddvb.narod.ru > > At this time this server seems to be not working properly, but here's > archive with mirror of this site made February, 12 > > http://www.aha.ru/~shurick/freebsddvb.narod.ru.tar.gz > > Unfortunately bundled documentation wrote on Russian but English appearance > the base points would be enough ;) > > Bundled source sstest.c stands for testing connection and tuning to > transponder (hardcoded EOL's Astra-1 #103 - see code where comments in > English) .In the first string set your upstream connection interface > ( #define network_device ) > > While running sstest without parameters look to the "sync" parameter - in > case of successful tuning it's value will be "127" > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Tue Mar 27 15:58:41 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from aspenworks.com (aspenworks.com [192.94.236.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0119937B71A for ; Tue, 27 Mar 2001 15:58:38 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from alex@aspenworks.com) Received: from d7k (matrix.aspenworks.com [216.38.199.82]) by aspenworks.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id QAA45912 for ; Tue, 27 Mar 2001 16:58:36 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from alex@aspenworks.com) Message-ID: <023601c0b719$c80ec350$1900a8c0@d7k> From: "Alex Huppenthal" To: Subject: ATM+FreeBSD 4.2 - I thought I'd get ATM interested folks an update Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2001 16:58:11 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I've managed to get FreeBSD 4.2, with Fore PCA-200E running. Thanks for the responses. Currently it appears that packets being sent from the FreeBSD side are being fragmented in a strange and unpleasent way. Anyone seen this, have a clue as to what to do about it ot a fix? This is the kind of thing we're seeing. What is going on?? (don't bother pinging these addresses, they aren't real) >> tcpdump 16:32:05.605598 166.28.19.249.1178 > 166.28.19.2.domain: 49762+ (16) (frag 32327:24@0+) 16:32:05.609562 166.28.19.249 > 166.28.19.2: (frag 32327:20@24) 16:32:05.610470 166.28.19.2.domain > 166.28.19.249.1178: 49762 NXDomain 0/1/0 (101) 16:32:05.623582 166.28.19.249.1179 > 166.28.19.2.domain: 49763+ (16) (frag 32328:24@0+) 16:32:05.627582 166.28.19.249 > 166.28.19.2: (frag 32328:24@24+) 16:32:05.629584 166.28.19.249 > 166.28.19.2: (frag 32328:11@48) 16:32:05.629939 166.28.19.2.domain > 166.28.19.249.1179: 49763 NXDomain* 0/1/0 (109) 16:32:05.675566 166.28.19.249.1180 > 166.28.19.2.domain: 17470+ (16) (frag 32337:24@0+) 16:32:05.679568 166.28.19.249 > 166.28.19.2: (frag 32337:24@24+) 16:32:05.681561 166.28.19.249 > 166.28.19.2: (frag 32337:4@48) 16:32:05.681884 166.28.19.2.domain > 166.28.19.249.1180: 17470 NXDomain 0/1/0 (99 -------------- Here's the setup. Intf Vendor Model Media Bus Serial No hfa0 Fore PCA-200E OC-3c PCI 65121222334721 MAC address = 00:20:48:64:4d:9f Hardware version = 2.0.1 Firmware version = 3.0.1 Interface Sigmgr State hfa0 UNI 3.1 ACTIVE ATM address = 0x49.00c0.7b.010000.0000.0000.0105.002048644d9f.00 Network interfaces: atm0 - atm2 Net Intf Phy Intf IP Address atm0 hfa0 atmaspen (166.28.19.249) atm1 hfa0 - atm2 hfa0 - Input Input Input Output Output Output Interface VPI VCI PDUs Bytes Errs PDUs Bytes Errs hfa0 0 5 2366 23660 0 2367 23684 0 hfa0 0 16 3556 264881 0 3560 336032 0 hfa0 0 100 25725 3807454 4 54490 2901813 0 Input Input Input Output Output Output Cmd Interface PDUs Bytes Errs PDUs Bytes Errs Errs hfa0 31647 4095995 4 60446 3263153 0 0 Net Intf State ATM Address atm0 SERVER - LIS = 66.28.19.0/0xffffff00 Net Intf VPI VCI State Flags IP Address atm0 0 100 ACTIVE PLM atmden (166.28.19.250) Net Intf Flags Age Origin atm0 VR 3 PERM ATM address = 0x49.00c0.7b.010000.0000.0000.0105.002048644d9f.00 IP address = atmaspen (166.28.19.249) Interface VPI VCI AAL Type Dir State Encaps Owner hfa0 0 5 AAL5 PVC InOut ACTIVE Null UNI3.1 hfa0 0 16 AAL5 PVC InOut ACTIVE Null ILMI hfa0 0 100 AAL5 PVC InOut ACTIVE LLC/SNAP IP To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Tue Mar 27 16:26: 6 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mail.gtw.net (mail.gtw.net [208.33.253.12]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 03BAC37B719 for ; Tue, 27 Mar 2001 16:26:03 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from john@day-light.com) Received: (qmail 30380 invoked from network); 28 Mar 2001 00:26:04 -0000 Received: from 61.pm3.gtw.net (HELO w1) (63.161.82.61) by mail.gtw.net with SMTP; 28 Mar 2001 00:26:04 -0000 Reply-To: From: "John Brooks" To: Subject: RE: Good server motherboard? Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2001 18:24:09 -0600 Message-ID: <001501c0b71d$76bb60e0$0b00a8c0@dle> X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 In-Reply-To: <4.3.2.20010327142640.02e18100@207.227.119.2> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Importance: Normal Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Has anyone used the raid controller from Arco www.duplidisk.com It's supposed to be completely invisible to the OS, so they claim. You get 2 pairs of Raid 1 off of an IDE controller at UDMA66. I ordered one a couple hours ago to try it out, was just wondering if anyone had any prior experience with it. -- John Brooks Email: john@stlbsd.org -----Original Message----- From: Jeffrey J. Mountin Sent: Tuesday, March 27, 2001 2:49 PM Subject: RE: Good server motherboard? If the lack of boot support in Vinum is an issue that could be solved with a 2 port 3Ware card and a couple IDE drives. There are boards with onboard RAID support, but it is considered crude at this time and not a good solution for production servers. Check the -stable archives for more info on the Promise and HighPoint controllers. IMO, recovery is easier with Vinum than with hardware RAID and with a hot swap enclosure no downtime is needed. Some HW RAID controllers require booting a DOS disk or the FBSD drivers are not as yet full-featured. Of course with Vinum you need to write some kind of script to monitor things, but that goes with the territory. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Wed Mar 28 0:28:31 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from rmx614-mta.mail.com (rmx614-mta.mail.com [165.251.48.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EB34437B71A for ; Wed, 28 Mar 2001 00:28:27 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from minosh@engineer.com) Received: from web147-mc (web147-mc.mail.com [165.251.48.144]) by rmx614-mta.mail.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id DAA18569 for ; Wed, 28 Mar 2001 03:28:27 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <381228538.985768106877.JavaMail.root@web147-mc> Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2001 03:28:26 -0500 (EST) From: Andy Kirkham To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: Tape drive C1557 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: mail.com X-Originating-IP: 195.217.37.155 Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi there I have installed an HP SureStore 24x6 tape unit onto my machine. However, I just can't get it working. Basically, I get the following:- # tar -c /etc tar: can't open /dev/rsa0 : Device not configured OR.... # dump -0u / DUMP: Date of this level 0 dump: Wed Mar 28 09:35:55 2001 DUMP: Date of last level 0 dump: the epoch DUMP: Dumping /dev/ad0s1a (/) to /dev/rsa0 DUMP: mapping (Pass I) [regular files] DUMP: mapping (Pass II) [directories] DUMP: estimated 35459 tape blocks on 0.91 tape(s). DUMP: Cannot open output "/dev/rsa0". I've been madly rtfm'ing and read posts re: kernel and MAKEDEV. I've tried all this (ie made a new kernel with the following:- # SCSI peripherals device scbus # SCSI bus (required) device ch # SCSI changers device da # Direct Access (disks) device sa # Sequential Access (tape etc) device cd # CD device pass # Passthrough device (direct SCSI access) and then done the sh MAKEDEV ch0 and sh MAKEDEV sa0 but no joy. Still getting the same error. Here's part of the dmesg output:- ahc0: port 0xe800-0xe8ff mem 0xeb000000-0xeb000fff irq 11 at device 12.0 on pci0 aic7895C: Wide Channel A, SCSI Id=7, 32/255 SCBs ahc1: port 0xec00-0xecff mem 0xeb002000-0xeb002fff irq 11 at device 12.1 on pci0 ahc1: Using left over BIOS settings aic7895C: Wide Channel B, SCSI Id=7, 32/255 SCBs sa0 at ahc0 bus 0 target 4 lun 0 sa0: Removable Sequential Access SCSI-2 device sa0: 10.000MB/s transfers (10.000MHz, offset 15) sa1 at ahc0 bus 0 target 4 lun 1 sa1: Removable Sequential Access SCSI-2 device sa1: 10.000MB/s transfers (10.000MHz, offset 15) Any ideas anyone? ______________________________________________ FREE Personalized Email at Mail.com Sign up at http://www.mail.com/?sr=signup To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Wed Mar 28 1:34:50 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mailsweeper.qdc-ec.co.za (gauntlet.mccarthy.co.za [196.26.24.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 530F037B71A for ; Wed, 28 Mar 2001 01:34:32 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from niekie@rcf.co.za) Received: from ntzn2.rainbow.co.za (unverified) by mailsweeper.qdc-ec.co.za (Content Technologies SMTPRS 4.2.1) with ESMTP id for ; Wed, 28 Mar 2001 11:40:25 +0200 Received: by ntzn2-ip2.rainbow.co.za with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) id ; Wed, 28 Mar 2001 11:32:09 +0200 Message-ID: From: "Niekie Myburgh (QData)" To: "'freebsd-isp@freebsd.org'" Subject: Dialin server and IPFW Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2001 11:36:10 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----_=_NextPart_001_01C0B76A.85BF0A40" Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C0B76A.85BF0A40 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" I'm busy setting up a dialin server on my network (Like an ISP type setup) to allow selected users do dial in, and access mail, telnet to other Unix boxes, ftp to those boxes, etc. Problem is that this dialin box is sitting directly on my network, and I need to protect the network from possible hack attempts. The dialin part works without problems (although my 56K modems only connect at 33.6 Kb, where on RedHat, I got 52K on the same machine). The problem I have is this: [Win95} -> [FreeBSD 4.2]-> [ipfw] -> [other network hosts] 10.0.0.2 10.0.0.1:172.27.xxx.xxx 172.27.xxx.xxx Start the machine with firewall_enabled="YES" and firewall_type="OPEN", and all works well. Set firewall_type="CUSTOM", and the following happen: The modem picks up (Auto-Answer on the modem) The connection aborts (MS Win 95, in all it's wisdom, tels me that the remote machine is not answering) Am I blocking getty & ppp from answering as well(is this possible??)? Any suggestions welcome. Niekie Myburgh Q-Data Consulting South-Africa ############################################################################ #### ####### Firewall for Dialup!! ################################################## ############################################################################ #### [Cc][Uu][Ss][Tt][Oo][Mm]) ##### External Interface - Local Network oif="xl0" onet="172.27.xxx.0" omask="255.255.255.0" oip="172.27.xxx.xxx" ##### Internal Interface - PPP iif="tun0" inet="10.0.0.0" imask="255.255.255.0" iip="10.0.0.1" ##### DNS Addresses dns1="172.27.xxx.2" dns2="172.27.xxx.8" ntp1="" #### Stop Spoofing $fwcmd add 110 deny all from ${inet}:${imask} to any in via ${oif} $fwcmd add 110 deny all from ${onet}:${omask} to any in via ${iif} #### Stop Private Networks from crossing the Firewall #$fwcmd add 120 deny log all from 192.168.0.0:255.255.0.0 to any in recv ${oif} #$fwcmd add 120 deny log all from 172.16.0.0:255.255.0.0 to any in recv ${oif} #$fwcmd add 120 deny log all from 10.0.0.0:255.0.0.0 to any in recv ${oif} #### Enable NAT ${fwcmd} add 50 divert natd all from any to any via ${natd_interface} ##### Allow any packet from inside (PPP) to go to outside (network) - NO! Disable. ##### We will custmise this in the next section! ##### Admin machine access $fwcmd add 130 pass tcp from 172.27.xxx.251 to 172.27.xxx.253 # Allow any IP packets to pass on the inside interface - NO! $fwcmd add 140 pass all from any to any via ${iif} ## Allow established TCP from Outside (Network) #$fwcmd add 150 pass tcp from any to ${iif} in recv ${oif} established #### The fixed version: #### Telnet $fwcmd add 131 pass tcp from ${iif} to hpzn1 23 out xmit ${oif} $fwcmd add 132 pass tcp from ${iif} to hpnr1 23 out xmit ${oif} $fwcmd add 133 pass tcp from ${iif} to hpcs1 23 out xmit ${oif} $fwcmd add 134 pass tcp from ${iif} to hpcs2 23 out xmit ${oif} $fwcmd add 135 pass tcp from ${iif} to hpwc1 23 out xmit ${oif} #### FTP #$fwcmd add 141 pass tcp from ${iif} to hpnr1 21 out xmit ${oif} #$fwcmd add 142 pass tcp from ${iif} to hpzn1 21 out xmit ${oif} #$fwcmd add 143 pass tcp from ${iif} to hpcs1 21 out xmit ${oif} #$fwcmd add 144 pass tcp from ${iif} to hpcs2 21 out xmit ${oif} #$fwcmd add 145 pass tcp from ${iif} to hpwc1 21 out xmit ${oif} #### MAIL #$fwcmd add 151 pass tcp from ${iif} to ntzn2 25 out xmit ${oif} #$fwcmd add 152 pass tcp from ${iif} to ntnr2 389 out xmit ${oif} #$fwcmd add 153 pass tcp from ${iif} to ntnr2 110 out xmit ${oif} #### Others #$fwcmd add 200 pass tcp from any to ${oip} 25 #$fwcmd add 201 pass tcp from any to ${oip} 23 #$fwcmd add 300 pass log tcp from ${inet} to ${oip} 23 in recv ${oif} setup #$fwcmd add 301 pass log tcp from ${onet} to ${oip} 23 in recv ${oif} setup #$fwcmd add 350 pass tcp from any to ${oip} 80,443 ##### DNS $fwcmd add 410 pass udp from ${dns1} 53 to any 1024-65535 in recv ${oif} $fwcmd add 420 pass udp from ${dns2} 53 to any 1024-65535 in recv ${oif} $fwcmd add 430 pass tcp from any 53 to ${inet}:${imask} $fwcmd add 430 pass udp from any 53 to ${inet}:${imask} ##### ICMP $fwcmd add 1000 pass icmp from any to any via ${iif} $fwcmd add 1000 pass icmp from any to any via ${oif} $fwcmd add 1010 pass icmp from any to any in recv ${oif} icmptypes 0 $fwcmd add 1010 pass icmp from any to any out xmit ${oif} icmptypes 8 ##### Tracetoute $fwcmd add 1020 pass icmp from any to any in recv ${oif} icmptypes 3 $fwcmd add 1020 pass icmp from any to any in recv ${oif} icmptypes 11 ##### Block the rest $fwcmd add 65532 deny udp from any to any $fwcmd add 65533 deny icmp from any to any $fwcmd add 65534 deny log ip from any to any ;; ------_=_NextPart_001_01C0B76A.85BF0A40 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Dialin server and IPFW

I'm busy setting up a dialin server on my network = (Like an ISP type setup) to allow selected users do dial in, and access = mail, telnet to other Unix boxes, ftp to those boxes, etc.  = Problem is that this dialin box is sitting directly on my network, and = I need to protect the network from possible hack attempts.

The dialin part works without problems (although my = 56K modems only connect at 33.6 Kb, where on RedHat, I got 52K on the = same machine).  The problem I have is this:

[Win95} -> [FreeBSD 4.2]-> [ipfw] -> [other = network hosts]
10.0.0.2    = 10.0.0.1:172.27.xxx.xxx    172.27.xxx.xxx

Start the machine with = firewall_enabled=3D"YES" and = firewall_type=3D"OPEN", and all works well.  Set = firewall_type=3D"CUSTOM", and the following = happen:

The modem picks up (Auto-Answer on the modem)
The connection aborts (MS Win 95, in all it's = wisdom, tels me that the remote machine is not answering)

Am I blocking getty & ppp from answering as = well(is this possible??)?

Any suggestions welcome.

Niekie Myburgh
Q-Data Consulting
South-Africa



###############################################################= #################
####### Firewall for Dialup!! = ##################################################
###############################################################= #################
[Cc][Uu][Ss][Tt][Oo][Mm])

##### External Interface - Local Network
oif=3D"xl0"
onet=3D"172.27.xxx.0"
omask=3D"255.255.255.0"
oip=3D"172.27.xxx.xxx"

##### Internal Interface - PPP
iif=3D"tun0"
inet=3D"10.0.0.0"
imask=3D"255.255.255.0"
iip=3D"10.0.0.1"

##### DNS Addresses
dns1=3D"172.27.xxx.2"
dns2=3D"172.27.xxx.8"
ntp1=3D""

#### Stop Spoofing
$fwcmd add 110 deny all from ${inet}:${imask} to any = in via ${oif}
$fwcmd add 110 deny all from ${onet}:${omask} to any = in via ${iif}

#### Stop Private Networks from crossing the = Firewall
#$fwcmd add 120 deny log all from = 192.168.0.0:255.255.0.0 to any in recv ${oif}
#$fwcmd add 120 deny log all from = 172.16.0.0:255.255.0.0 to any in recv ${oif}
#$fwcmd add 120 deny log all from 10.0.0.0:255.0.0.0 = to any in recv ${oif}

#### Enable NAT
${fwcmd} add 50 divert natd all from any to any via = ${natd_interface}
 

##### Allow any packet from inside (PPP) to go to = outside (network) - NO! Disable. 
##### We will custmise this in the next section!
##### Admin machine access
$fwcmd add 130 pass tcp from 172.27.xxx.251 to = 172.27.xxx.253
# Allow any IP packets to pass on the inside = interface - NO!
$fwcmd add 140 pass all from any to any via = ${iif}
## Allow established TCP from Outside = (Network)
#$fwcmd add 150 pass tcp from any to ${iif} in recv = ${oif} established

#### The fixed version:
#### Telnet
$fwcmd add 131 pass tcp from ${iif} to hpzn1 23 out = xmit ${oif}
$fwcmd add 132 pass tcp from ${iif} to hpnr1 23 out = xmit ${oif}
$fwcmd add 133 pass tcp from ${iif} to hpcs1 23 out = xmit ${oif}
$fwcmd add 134 pass tcp from ${iif} to hpcs2 23 out = xmit ${oif}
$fwcmd add 135 pass tcp from ${iif} to hpwc1 23 out = xmit ${oif}
#### FTP
#$fwcmd add 141 pass tcp from ${iif} to hpnr1 21 out = xmit ${oif}
#$fwcmd add 142 pass tcp from ${iif} to hpzn1 21 out = xmit ${oif}
#$fwcmd add 143 pass tcp from ${iif} to hpcs1 21 out = xmit ${oif}
#$fwcmd add 144 pass tcp from ${iif} to hpcs2 21 out = xmit ${oif}
#$fwcmd add 145 pass tcp from ${iif} to hpwc1 21 out = xmit ${oif}
#### MAIL
#$fwcmd add 151 pass tcp from ${iif} to ntzn2 = 25   out xmit ${oif}
#$fwcmd add 152 pass tcp from ${iif} to ntnr2 = 389  out xmit ${oif}
#$fwcmd add 153 pass tcp from ${iif} to ntnr2 = 110  out xmit ${oif}
 
#### Others
#$fwcmd add 200 pass tcp from any to ${oip} = 25
#$fwcmd add 201 pass tcp from any to ${oip} = 23
#$fwcmd add 300 pass log tcp from ${inet} to ${oip} = 23 in recv ${oif} setup
#$fwcmd add 301 pass log tcp from ${onet} to ${oip} = 23 in recv ${oif} setup
#$fwcmd add 350 pass tcp from any to ${oip} = 80,443

##### DNS
$fwcmd add 410 pass udp from ${dns1} 53 to any = 1024-65535 in recv ${oif}
$fwcmd add 420 pass udp from ${dns2} 53 to any = 1024-65535 in recv ${oif}
$fwcmd add 430 pass tcp from any 53 to = ${inet}:${imask}
$fwcmd add 430 pass udp from any 53 to = ${inet}:${imask}

##### ICMP
$fwcmd add 1000 pass icmp from any to any via = ${iif}
$fwcmd add 1000 pass icmp from any to any via = ${oif}
$fwcmd add 1010 pass icmp from any to any in recv = ${oif} icmptypes 0
$fwcmd add 1010 pass icmp from any to any out xmit = ${oif} icmptypes 8

##### Tracetoute
$fwcmd add 1020 pass icmp from any to any in recv = ${oif} icmptypes 3
$fwcmd add 1020 pass icmp from any to any in recv = ${oif} icmptypes 11

##### Block the rest
$fwcmd add 65532 deny udp from any to any
$fwcmd add 65533 deny icmp from any to any
$fwcmd add 65534 deny log ip from any to any
;;

------_=_NextPart_001_01C0B76A.85BF0A40-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Wed Mar 28 5:24:38 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from ady.warpnet.ro (ady.warpnet.ro [194.102.224.8]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DD81937B71C for ; Wed, 28 Mar 2001 05:24:18 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from ady@warpnet.ro) Received: from localhost (ady@localhost) by ady.warpnet.ro (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA11964; Wed, 28 Mar 2001 16:22:15 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from ady@warpnet.ro) Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2001 16:22:15 +0300 (EEST) From: Adrian Penisoara To: Alexander Radunsky Cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: RE: SkyStar-1 DVB card driver for FreeBSD ? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi, Got a SkyStar-1 card, it's working. Thanks !! PS: I see the driver is pretty verbose in debug messages, is it actively maintained by the author or other persons ? I'm about to polish it a bit... Ady (@warpnet.ro) __________________________________________________________________ | "Be vewy vewy quiet, I'm hunting wuntime ewwors!" - Elmer Fudd | On Tue, 27 Mar 2001, Alexander Radunsky wrote: > > On 26-Mar-01 Adrian Penisoara wrote: > > Good $Greetings_time. > > > Hi, > > > > Where can I find a FreeBSD driver for Technisat's SkyStar-1 DVB card ? > > On the server http://freebsddvb.narod.ru > > At this time this server seems to be not working properly, but here's > archive with mirror of this site made February, 12 > > http://www.aha.ru/~shurick/freebsddvb.narod.ru.tar.gz > > Unfortunately bundled documentation wrote on Russian but English appearance > the base points would be enough ;) > > Bundled source sstest.c stands for testing connection and tuning to > transponder (hardcoded EOL's Astra-1 #103 - see code where comments in > English) .In the first string set your upstream connection interface > ( #define network_device ) > > While running sstest without parameters look to the "sync" parameter - in > case of successful tuning it's value will be "127" > > > Are there any DVB cards with working drivers for FreeBSD ? > > > > Thanks, > > Ady (@warpnet.ro) > > __________________________________________________________________ > >| "Be vewy vewy quiet, I'm hunting wuntime ewwors!" - Elmer Fudd | > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message > > -- > Alexander A. Radunsky Zenon N.S.P. > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Wed Mar 28 6:54:20 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from bilver.wjv.com (dhcp-1-39.n01.orldfl01.us.ra.verio.net [157.238.210.39]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6CFA937B71A for ; Wed, 28 Mar 2001 06:54:15 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from bill@bilver.wjv.com) Received: (from bill@localhost) by bilver.wjv.com (8.11.1/8.11.1) id f2SEpX711236; Wed, 28 Mar 2001 09:51:33 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from bill) Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2001 09:51:32 -0500 From: Bill Vermillion To: Andy Kirkham Cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Tape drive C1557 Message-ID: <20010328095132.F10350@wjv.com> Reply-To: bv@wjv.com References: <381228538.985768106877.JavaMail.root@web147-mc> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <381228538.985768106877.JavaMail.root@web147-mc>; from minosh@engineer.com on Wed, Mar 28, 2001 at 03:28:26AM -0500 Organization: W.J.Vermillion / Orlando - Winter Park Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Wed, Mar 28, 2001 at 03:28:26AM -0500, Andy Kirkham thus spoke: > Hi there > I have installed an HP SureStore 24x6 tape unit onto > my machine. However, I just can't get it working. > Basically, I get the following:- > # tar -c /etc > tar: can't open /dev/rsa0 : Device not configured > OR.... > # dump -0u / > DUMP: Date of this level 0 dump: Wed Mar 28 09:35:55 2001 > DUMP: Date of last level 0 dump: the epoch > DUMP: Dumping /dev/ad0s1a (/) to /dev/rsa0 > DUMP: mapping (Pass I) [regular files] > DUMP: mapping (Pass II) [directories] > DUMP: estimated 35459 tape blocks on 0.91 tape(s). > DUMP: Cannot open output "/dev/rsa0". .... > and then done the sh MAKEDEV ch0 and sh MAKEDEV sa0 > but no joy. Still getting the same error. Here's part > of the dmesg output:- > ahc0: port 0xe800-0xe8ff mem > 0xeb000000-0xeb000fff irq 11 at device 12.0 on pci0 > aic7895C: Wide Channel A, SCSI Id=7, 32/255 SCBs ahc1: Ultra SCSI adapter> port 0xec00-0xecff mem 0xeb002000-0xeb002fff irq 11 at > device 12.1 on pci0 > ahc1: Using left over BIOS settings > aic7895C: Wide Channel B, SCSI Id=7, 32/255 SCBs > > sa0 at ahc0 bus 0 target 4 lun 0 ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ > sa0: Removable Sequential Access SCSI-2 device > sa0: 10.000MB/s transfers (10.000MHz, offset 15) > sa1 at ahc0 bus 0 target 4 lun 1 ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ > Any ideas anyone? It shows TWO tape drives, on at lun 0 and one at lun 1. Do you have two. What lun is the device really on? -- Bill Vermillion - bv @ wjv . com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Wed Mar 28 7:23: 1 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from pendragon.tacni.net (mail.tacni.net [216.178.136.165]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 4DDA037B71E for ; Wed, 28 Mar 2001 07:22:59 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from tom.oneil@tacni.net) Received: (qmail 1900 invoked by alias); 28 Mar 2001 15:22:54 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO tacni.net) (216.201.173.186) by pendragon.tacni.net with SMTP; 28 Mar 2001 15:22:54 -0000 Message-ID: <3AC201D1.5B167E0F@tacni.net> Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2001 09:22:57 -0600 From: Tom ONeil Organization: Texas American Communications X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.72 [en] (WinNT; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Free Subject: DOS Attack? "No memory for tx list, out of mbufs" Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Greetings All and thanks for the help over the years, Got this in the logs, machine was locked up and had to reboot. Mar 27 23:13:45 pendragon proftpd[58667]: pendragon.tacni.net (XXX.XXX.XXX.XXX[XXX.XXX.XXX.XXX]) - FTP session closed. Mar 28 07:08:05 pendragon /kernel: rl0: no memory for tx list Mar 28 07:08:05 pendragon /kernel: rl0: out of mbufs, tried to copy 86 bytes Any thoughts? Tom -- Thomas J. ONeil tom.oneil@tacni.net http://www.tacni.net/ "Linux is for people who hate Micro$oft. BSD is for people who love unix." To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Wed Mar 28 7:49:30 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from relay.tecc.co.uk (luggage.tecc.co.uk [193.128.6.129]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 0B5DE37B718 for ; Wed, 28 Mar 2001 07:49:20 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from andy@tecc.co.uk) Received: from fw-smtp.tecc.co.uk [195.217.37.39] by relay.tecc.co.uk with esmtp (Exim 1.70 #1) id 14iICE-0003Hm-00; Wed, 28 Mar 2001 16:49:18 +0100 Received: from [195.217.37.155] (helo=southampton) by fw-smtp.tecc.co.uk with smtp (Exim 2.12 #3) id 14iIA3-0002sg-00 for freebsd-isp@freebsd.org; Wed, 28 Mar 2001 16:47:03 +0100 From: "Andy [Tecc Nops]" To: Subject: Re: Tape drive C1557 Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2001 16:50:12 +0100 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Oops, forgot to let the solution to my problem make it to the list for the benefit of future searchers of the list archives! Ak On Wed, Mar 28, 2001 at 04:25:52PM +0100, Andy [Tecc Nops] thus spoke: > Thanks! That made me take another look. > Of course, LUN1 should be ch0 not sa1 > So, went to hp.com and downed the manual. > rtfm...... turn the unit around, set the > autoloader option to 7 (default), was on > 5 (Sun) and now works a treat. Bad case > of rtfm on my part! Since LUNs are not an everyday occurance for most people, and all the diag output seems to run together it's easy to miss. I've been working with Unix systems since 1983 - and knows that all diag output usually means something to someone - even if I can't make heads nor tails of it. And you have to know what part of man to rtf. Glad it's working. Bill > > regards > Andy > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG > [mailto:owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG]On Behalf Of Bill Vermillion > Sent: 28 March 2001 15:52 > To: Andy Kirkham > Cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG > Subject: Re: Tape drive C1557 > > > On Wed, Mar 28, 2001 at 03:28:26AM -0500, Andy Kirkham thus spoke: > > Hi there > > > I have installed an HP SureStore 24x6 tape unit onto > > my machine. However, I just can't get it working. > > Basically, I get the following:- > > > # tar -c /etc > > tar: can't open /dev/rsa0 : Device not configured > > > OR.... > > > # dump -0u / > > DUMP: Date of this level 0 dump: Wed Mar 28 09:35:55 2001 > > DUMP: Date of last level 0 dump: the epoch > > DUMP: Dumping /dev/ad0s1a (/) to /dev/rsa0 > > DUMP: mapping (Pass I) [regular files] > > DUMP: mapping (Pass II) [directories] > > DUMP: estimated 35459 tape blocks on 0.91 tape(s). > > DUMP: Cannot open output "/dev/rsa0". > > .... > > > and then done the sh MAKEDEV ch0 and sh MAKEDEV sa0 > > but no joy. Still getting the same error. Here's part > > of the dmesg output:- > > > ahc0: port 0xe800-0xe8ff mem > > 0xeb000000-0xeb000fff irq 11 at device 12.0 on pci0 > > aic7895C: Wide Channel A, SCSI Id=7, 32/255 SCBs ahc1: > Ultra SCSI adapter> port 0xec00-0xecff mem 0xeb002000-0xeb002fff irq 11 at > > device 12.1 on pci0 > > ahc1: Using left over BIOS settings > > aic7895C: Wide Channel B, SCSI Id=7, 32/255 SCBs > > > > sa0 at ahc0 bus 0 target 4 lun 0 > ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ > > sa0: Removable Sequential Access SCSI-2 device > > sa0: 10.000MB/s transfers (10.000MHz, offset 15) > > sa1 at ahc0 bus 0 target 4 lun 1 > ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ > > Any ideas anyone? > > It shows TWO tape drives, on at lun 0 and one at lun 1. > > Do you have two. What lun is the device really on? > > -- > Bill Vermillion - bv @ wjv . com > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message > > -- Bill Vermillion - bv @ wjv . com search strings: dat24 dat24x6 surestore hp To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Wed Mar 28 8:32: 9 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from backend1.aha.ru (terra.zenon.net [213.189.198.210]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4A62737B722 for ; Wed, 28 Mar 2001 08:32:05 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from ava@elcomsoft.com) Received: from [195.68.136.2] (account ava@elcomsoft.com HELO ws12.softclub.int) by backend1.aha.ru (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 3.4.2) with ESMTP id 91349417; Wed, 28 Mar 2001 20:32:02 +0400 Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2001 20:30:21 +0400 From: "Alexei V. Alexandrov" X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.47 Halloween Edition) Personal Reply-To: "Alexei V. Alexandrov" Organization: ElcomSoft Ltd. X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <6427903172.20010328203021@elcomsoft.com> To: Tom ONeil Cc: Free Subject: Re: DOS Attack? "No memory for tx list, out of mbufs" In-reply-To: <3AC201D1.5B167E0F@tacni.net> References: <3AC201D1.5B167E0F@tacni.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hello Tom, Wednesday, March 28, 2001, 7:22:57 PM, you wrote: TO> Mar 27 23:13:45 pendragon proftpd[58667]: pendragon.tacni.net TO> (XXX.XXX.XXX.XXX[XXX.XXX.XXX.XXX]) - FTP session closed. TO> Mar 28 07:08:05 pendragon /kernel: rl0: no memory for tx list TO> Mar 28 07:08:05 pendragon /kernel: rl0: out of mbufs, tried to copy 86 TO> bytes check netstat -m it will report usage of mbufs. Then increase the maximum value of mbufs by recompiling the kernel with the option NMBCLUSTERS set to the value > than netstat -m reported. Best regards, Alexei V. Alexandrov To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Wed Mar 28 11:35:37 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from et-gw.etinc.com (et-gw.etinc.com [207.252.1.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 282A337B725 for ; Wed, 28 Mar 2001 11:35:34 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from dennis@etinc.com) Received: from dbsys.etinc.com (dbsys.etinc.com [207.252.1.18]) by et-gw.etinc.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA23710; Wed, 28 Mar 2001 14:36:52 GMT (envelope-from dennis@etinc.com) Message-Id: <5.0.0.25.0.20010328145059.01fd7e50@mail.etinc.com> X-Sender: dennis@mail.etinc.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.0 Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2001 14:52:17 -0500 To: "Alexei V. Alexandrov" , Tom ONeil From: Dennis Subject: Re: DOS Attack? "No memory for tx list, out of mbufs" Cc: Free In-Reply-To: <6427903172.20010328203021@elcomsoft.com> References: <3AC201D1.5B167E0F@tacni.net> <3AC201D1.5B167E0F@tacni.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org We now have DOS filters for FreeBSD, to guard against this kind of thing. dennis Emerging Technologies, Inc. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- http://www.etinc.com ISA and PCI T1/T3/V35/HSSI Cards for FreeBSD and LINUX Multiport T1 and HSSI/T3 UNIX-based Routers Bandwidth Management Standalone Systems Bandwidth Management software for LINUX and FreeBSD To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Wed Mar 28 18:25: 0 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from www.golsyd.net.au (golsyd.net.au [203.57.20.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5673F37B724 for ; Wed, 28 Mar 2001 18:24:57 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from kaltorak@quake.com.au) Received: from [203.164.12.28] by www.quake.com.au (NTMail 4.30.0012/AB6169.63.5724aadf) with ESMTP id ilsaaaaa for ; Thu, 29 Mar 2001 12:24:40 +1000 Message-ID: <3AC29DB4.7EBD2143@quake.com.au> Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2001 12:28:04 +1000 From: Kal Torak X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.73 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Tom ONeil Cc: Free Subject: Re: DOS Attack? "No memory for tx list, out of mbufs" References: <3AC201D1.5B167E0F@tacni.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Tom ONeil wrote: > > Greetings All and thanks for the help over the years, > > Got this in the logs, machine was locked up and had to reboot. > > Mar 27 23:13:45 pendragon proftpd[58667]: pendragon.tacni.net > (XXX.XXX.XXX.XXX[XXX.XXX.XXX.XXX]) - FTP session closed. > Mar 28 07:08:05 pendragon /kernel: rl0: no memory for tx list > Mar 28 07:08:05 pendragon /kernel: rl0: out of mbufs, tried to copy 86 > bytes Have you got the latest version of proftpd? There is a DoS attack for it atm, in phrasing things like: ls */../*/../*/../*/../*/../*/../*/../*/../*/../*/../*/../*/../* Infact I dont think there is a patch to fix this yet... You should check the proftpd site... A few things to stop the attack would be to start proftpd with some ulimits so it cant take all the system resources, also in your config put something like DenyFilter \*.*/ Hope that helps! To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Wed Mar 28 18:33:40 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from hex.databits.net (hex.databits.net [207.29.192.16]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id A0F1C37B722 for ; Wed, 28 Mar 2001 18:33:35 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from petef@hex.databits.net) Received: (qmail 4950 invoked by uid 1001); 29 Mar 2001 02:33:35 -0000 Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2001 21:33:35 -0500 From: Pete Fritchman To: Kal Torak Cc: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: Re: DOS Attack? "No memory for tx list, out of mbufs" Message-ID: <20010328213335.B4751@databits.net> References: <3AC201D1.5B167E0F@tacni.net> <3AC29DB4.7EBD2143@quake.com.au> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <3AC29DB4.7EBD2143@quake.com.au>; from kaltorak@quake.com.au on Thu, Mar 29, 2001 at 12:28:04PM +1000 Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org That glob attack will only affect the server's CPU usage, it won't take up mbufs. I'm not so sure this is definately a DOS attack. Just up your NMBCLUSTERS option and see how things go. -pete ++ 29/03/01 12:28 +1000 - Kal Torak: >Tom ONeil wrote: >> >> Greetings All and thanks for the help over the years, >> >> Got this in the logs, machine was locked up and had to reboot. >> >> Mar 27 23:13:45 pendragon proftpd[58667]: pendragon.tacni.net >> (XXX.XXX.XXX.XXX[XXX.XXX.XXX.XXX]) - FTP session closed. >> Mar 28 07:08:05 pendragon /kernel: rl0: no memory for tx list >> Mar 28 07:08:05 pendragon /kernel: rl0: out of mbufs, tried to copy 86 >> bytes > > >Have you got the latest version of proftpd? There is a DoS attack for >it atm, in phrasing things like: >ls */../*/../*/../*/../*/../*/../*/../*/../*/../*/../*/../*/../* > >Infact I dont think there is a patch to fix this yet... You should check >the proftpd site... >A few things to stop the attack would be to start proftpd with some ulimits >so it cant take all the system resources, also in your config put something >like DenyFilter \*.*/ > >Hope that helps! > >To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org >with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message -- Pete Fritchman Databits Network Services, Inc. finger petef@databits.net for PGP key To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Thu Mar 29 3:41:32 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mail.ffm.plusline.de (mail.ffm.plusline.de [212.19.48.5]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EABB837B71E for ; Thu, 29 Mar 2001 03:41:29 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from rg@plusline.net) Received: from plusline.net ([212.19.56.5]) by mail.ffm.plusline.de (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id NAA04330 for ; Thu, 29 Mar 2001 13:41:28 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <3AC31F58.EC12CD32@plusline.net> Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2001 13:41:12 +0200 From: Richard Gresek Reply-To: rg@plusline.net Organization: Plus.line X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.76 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.2.12 i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: MAIL/HTML GateWay for Cyrus Imapd on FreeBSD Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hello, I would like to setup a HTML gateway to our Cyrus IMAP server. I anybody using a solution on a Free BSD box? Any recommendations? Thanks Richard Gresek -- ___________________________________________________ Plus.Line Systemhaus GmbH Tel.: +49 69 758915-0 Mainzer Landstr. 222-224 Fax : +49 69 758915-33 D-60327 Frankfurt http://www.plusline.net To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Thu Mar 29 4:13:33 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from ginnungagap.sweet-sorrow.com (ginnungagap.we-administer.net [193.189.161.251]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E228137B718 for ; Thu, 29 Mar 2001 04:13:28 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from einherjer@sweet-sorrow.com) Received: from Us-lap (us-lap.siol.net [193.189.161.84]) by ginnungagap.sweet-sorrow.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3435E18C83 for ; Thu, 29 Mar 2001 13:49:49 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <200103291348100240.055B235E@ginnungagap.sweet-sorrow.com> References: <3AC31F58.EC12CD32@plusline.net> <200103291347320135.055A8E85@ginnungagap.sweet-sorrow.com> X-Mailer: Calypso Version 3.20.01.00 (4) Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2001 13:48:10 +0200 From: "einherjer" To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: Re: MAIL/HTML GateWay for Cyrus Imapd on FreeBSD Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org My personal experience is in favor of Squirrel mail= (http://www.squirrelmail.org/) *********** REPLY SEPARATOR *********** On 3/29/2001 at 13:41 Richard Gresek wrote: >Hello, > >I would like to setup a HTML gateway to our Cyrus >IMAP server. > >I anybody using a solution on a Free BSD box? Any >recommendations? > >Thanks > >Richard Gresek > > >-- >___________________________________________________ >Plus.Line Systemhaus GmbH Tel.: +49 69 758915-0 >Mainzer Landstr. 222-224 Fax : +49 69 758915-33 >D-60327 Frankfurt http://www.plusline.net > >To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org >with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message *********** REPLY SEPARATOR *********** To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Thu Mar 29 4:19:21 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mgw1.MEIway.com (mgw1.meiway.com [212.73.210.75]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A3BE937B71C for ; Thu, 29 Mar 2001 04:19:19 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from LConrad@Go2France.com) Received: from sv.Go2France.com (sv.meiway.com [212.73.210.79]) by mgw1.MEIway.com (Postfix Relay Hub) with ESMTP id 0CEDB16B16 for ; Thu, 29 Mar 2001 14:33:07 +0200 (CEST) Message-Id: <5.0.0.25.0.20010329141558.022ee9e0@mail.Go2France.com> X-Sender: lconrad%Go2France.com@mail.Go2France.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.0 Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2001 14:16:39 +0200 To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org From: Len Conrad Subject: Re: MAIL/HTML GateWay for Cyrus Imapd on FreeBSD In-Reply-To: <200103291348100240.055B235E@ginnungagap.sweet-sorrow.com> References: <3AC31F58.EC12CD32@plusline.net> <200103291347320135.055A8E85@ginnungagap.sweet-sorrow.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org At 13:48 29/03/01 +0200, you wrote: >My personal experience is in favor of Squirrel mail >(http://www.squirrelmail.org/) How many simultaneous users? scaleable? lightweight or resource hungry? Len http://MenAndMice.com/DNS-training : In Austin, TX; SFO, CA; Paris, FR http://BIND8NT.MEIway.com : ISC BIND 8.2.3 "NT3" for NT4 & W2K http://IMGate.MEIway.com : Build free, hi-perf, anti-abuse mail gateways To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Thu Mar 29 4:21:30 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from ginnungagap.sweet-sorrow.com (ginnungagap.we-administer.net [193.189.161.251]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D80E937B71D for ; Thu, 29 Mar 2001 04:21:26 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from einherjer@sweet-sorrow.com) Received: from Us-lap (us-lap.siol.net [193.189.161.84]) by ginnungagap.sweet-sorrow.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id F3D2018C83 for ; Thu, 29 Mar 2001 14:23:43 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <200103291422040876.057A2F29@ginnungagap.sweet-sorrow.com> In-Reply-To: <5.0.0.25.0.20010329141558.022ee9e0@mail.Go2France.com> References: <3AC31F58.EC12CD32@plusline.net> <200103291347320135.055A8E85@ginnungagap.sweet-sorrow.com> <5.0.0.25.0.20010329141558.022ee9e0@mail.Go2France.com> X-Mailer: Calypso Version 3.20.01.00 (4) Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2001 14:22:04 +0200 From: "einherjer" To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: Re: MAIL/HTML GateWay for Cyrus Imapd on FreeBSD Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Well I only have a few (10) users so I cannot judge for it. My opinion is= based only on the configuring part of the software. *********** REPLY SEPARATOR *********** On 3/29/2001 at 14:16 Len Conrad wrote: >At 13:48 29/03/01 +0200, you wrote: >>My personal experience is in favor of Squirrel mail >>(http://www.squirrelmail.org/) > >How many simultaneous users? scaleable? lightweight or resource hungry? > >Len > > > >http://MenAndMice.com/DNS-training : In Austin, TX; SFO, CA; Paris, >FR >http://BIND8NT.MEIway.com : ISC BIND 8.2.3 "NT3" for NT4 & W2K >http://IMGate.MEIway.com : Build free, hi-perf, anti-abuse mail gateways > > >To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org >with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message *********** REPLY SEPARATOR *********** To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Thu Mar 29 6: 1:23 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from psknet.com (psknet.com [63.171.251.4]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id B1A5E37B719 for ; Thu, 29 Mar 2001 06:01:17 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from troy@psknet.com) Received: (qmail 80965 invoked from network); 29 Mar 2001 14:01:06 -0000 Received: from abyss.dashit.net (HELO ABYSS) (63.171.251.250) by psknet.com with SMTP; 29 Mar 2001 14:01:06 -0000 From: "Troy Settle" To: Subject: RE: MAIL/HTML GateWay for Cyrus Imapd on FreeBSD Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2001 09:01:06 -0500 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) In-Reply-To: <200103291422040876.057A2F29@ginnungagap.sweet-sorrow.com> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Importance: Normal X-AntiVirus: scanned for viruses by Pulaski Networks (http://www.psknet.com) using AMaViS (http://www.amavis.org) Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Squirrilmail is dirt easy to configure, but I don't like the way it deals with stateful information. Would be much better to tie it into a SQL server or other database. FWIW, I really liked TWIG against Cyrus IMAP. It's full of features, is relatively lightweight, and got good reviews from customers. I'm now using vpopmail / sqwebmail (am investigating other Web based clients though). Here's a list of webmail stuffs from someone on another list: (copy and paste here, I'm not reformatting. Some packages are for Windows) .................www.focalmail.com/home/index.html .................www.cgi-resources.com (webmail script) .................www.profuso.com/EN/products.html .................www.relata.org .................www.wormhole2.com/webml/ acmemail......... Alias-Mail.......http://user.solutionscripts.com ($) anyemail.........www.netbula.com/anyemail/ Anywhere Mail....www.graphicbrewer.net/anywheremail/anywheremail.cgi ATDOT............www.atdot.org Brightmail.......www.brightmail.com/individual/ Communigate Pro..www.stalker.com (commercial & supports pop,imap,webmail & antivirus plugins) Cyberindigo POP..http://email.cyberindigo.com/ DmailWeb.........www.netwinsite.com/dmailweb EmailBooth.......www.emailbooth.com/cgi-bin/mail/mmstd.cgi EmuMail..........www.smtp.com Endymion.........www.endymion.com iMail............www.ipswitch.com (Win) iMail templates..www.hksi.net imp..............http://web.horde.org/imp (PHP based,requires IMAP, PHP, MySQL, javascript) InterMail........www.Software.com KBMail...........www.kbmail.com/ISP Mail Inspector...www.mail-inspector.de/index.html Mail2Web.........http://mail2web.com/ MailMan..........www.endymion.com/products/mailman/index.htm ($250US) Mailpeek.........www.mailpeek.com/ MailSite(Win)....www.rockliffe.com mailspinner......http://nascent.com MailStart........http://mailstart.com mdaemon..........http://mdaemon.com (Win2k) mhonarc..........www.oac.uci.edu/indiv/ehood/mhonarc.html (fbsd pkg) MollyMail........www.mollymail.com/mollymail.fcgi neomail..........http://neomail.sourceforge.net/ obsidian.........www.obsidian.co.za OCS..............www.moongroup.com/ocs/ Openphone........www.openphone.com/cgi-bin/pop/mail.pl PandaMail........http://bstar.net/panda/ Pop3Now..........www.pop3now.com qdpop............http://qdpop.ucdmc.ucdavis.edu/qdpop.htm Readmail.........www.readmail.com/ SimplePOP........www.lumtech.com/perl/ Squirrelmail.....www.squirrelmail.org (supports imap) sqwebmail........http://inter7.com/sqwebmail (Only supports Maildirs, avail in fbsd pkg format) ftp://download.sourceforge.net/pub/sourceforge/courier/sqwebmail-1.2.5.tar.g z ThatWeb..........www.thatweb.com/indexns.html twig.............http://screwdriver.net/twig/ Umailme..........www.umailme.com/ VOP Mail.........www.vircom.com WebAddressbook...www.webab.com webmail..........www.ihub.com WebEdge..........Software.com Youpy............www.EmailPlanet.com -- Troy Settle Pulaski Networks 540.994.4254 ** -----Original Message----- ** From: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG ** [mailto:owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG]On Behalf Of einherjer ** Sent: Thursday, March 29, 2001 7:22 AM ** To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org ** Subject: Re: MAIL/HTML GateWay for Cyrus Imapd on FreeBSD ** ** ** Well I only have a few (10) users so I cannot judge for it. My ** opinion is based only on the configuring part of the software. ** ** *********** REPLY SEPARATOR *********** ** ** On 3/29/2001 at 14:16 Len Conrad wrote: ** ** >At 13:48 29/03/01 +0200, you wrote: ** >>My personal experience is in favor of Squirrel mail ** >>(http://www.squirrelmail.org/) ** > ** >How many simultaneous users? scaleable? lightweight or resource hungry? ** > ** >Len ** > ** > ** > ** >http://MenAndMice.com/DNS-training : In Austin, TX; SFO, CA; Paris, ** >FR ** >http://BIND8NT.MEIway.com : ISC BIND 8.2.3 "NT3" for NT4 & W2K ** >http://IMGate.MEIway.com : Build free, hi-perf, anti-abuse ** mail gateways ** > ** > ** >To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org ** >with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message ** ** *********** REPLY SEPARATOR *********** ** ** ** ** To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org ** with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message ** ** To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Thu Mar 29 7:51:33 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from heaven.gigo.com (heaven.gigo.com [209.245.148.221]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 235EF37B71B for ; Thu, 29 Mar 2001 07:51:32 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jfesler@gigo.com) Received: from localhost (localhost.gigo.com [127.0.0.1]) by heaven.gigo.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B469E16E9C; Thu, 29 Mar 2001 07:51:31 -0800 (PST) Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2001 07:51:31 -0800 (PST) From: Jason Fesler To: Richard Gresek Cc: Subject: Re: MAIL/HTML GateWay for Cyrus Imapd on FreeBSD In-Reply-To: <3AC31F58.EC12CD32@plusline.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > I would like to setup a HTML gateway to our Cyrus > IMAP server. http://www.horde.org/imp/ is my favorite. Requires PHP. Works quite nicely with cyrus with respect to speed. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Thu Mar 29 8:11:26 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mail.wolves.k12.mo.us (mail.wolves.k12.mo.us [207.160.214.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BE49F37B724 for ; Thu, 29 Mar 2001 08:11:23 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from cdillon@wolves.k12.mo.us) Received: from mail.wolves.k12.mo.us (cdillon@mail.wolves.k12.mo.us [207.160.214.1]) by mail.wolves.k12.mo.us (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA32098; Thu, 29 Mar 2001 10:11:14 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from cdillon@wolves.k12.mo.us) Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2001 10:11:14 -0600 (CST) From: Chris Dillon To: Richard Gresek Cc: Subject: Re: MAIL/HTML GateWay for Cyrus Imapd on FreeBSD In-Reply-To: <3AC31F58.EC12CD32@plusline.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Thu, 29 Mar 2001, Richard Gresek wrote: > Hello, > > I would like to setup a HTML gateway to our Cyrus > IMAP server. > > I anybody using a solution on a Free BSD box? Any > recommendations? Any HTML-based IMAP client will work just fine. I'm rather fond of IMP (http://www.horde.org/imp), but there are plenty of others around. -- Chris Dillon - cdillon@wolves.k12.mo.us - cdillon@inter-linc.net FreeBSD: The fastest and most stable server OS on the planet. For IA32 and Alpha architectures. IA64, PPC, and ARM under development. http://www.freebsd.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Thu Mar 29 8:17: 1 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from bjorn.goddamnbastard.org (c1283020-a.hrvy1.il.home.com [24.183.37.152]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 1442C37B71B for ; Thu, 29 Mar 2001 08:16:59 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from ryanb@bjorn.goddamnbastard.org) Received: (qmail 88046 invoked by uid 1000); 29 Mar 2001 16:16:58 -0000 Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2001 10:16:58 -0600 From: ryanb To: Leif Neland Cc: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Mirrorred webservers: Updating, logging. Message-ID: <20010329101658.A87734@bjorn.goddamnbastard.org> References: <00e201c09c62$fbd45aa0$0e00a8c0@neland.dk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.4i In-Reply-To: <00e201c09c62$fbd45aa0$0e00a8c0@neland.dk>; from leifn@neland.dk on Thu, Feb 22, 2001 at 01:04:10AM +0100 Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Thu, Feb 22, 2001 at 01:04:10AM +0100, Leif Neland wrote: > We're thinking about mirroring our webservers for redundancy. > > There exist different solutions, however, I have not seen any mentioning on how to update the sites; the customers shouldn't have to update two sites; it should work transparently. Would there be an option to use an NFS server to house all the content and logs, thus leaving a common thread for any amount of machines you'd like to slave from a single set of data? A user could edit/upload to their space housed on a file server with changes effective immediately on _all_ client machines. - ryan To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Thu Mar 29 11:33:28 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mail.gmx.net (pop.gmx.net [194.221.183.20]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 56D1A37B726 for ; Thu, 29 Mar 2001 11:33:24 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from haribeau@gmx.de) Received: (qmail 15482 invoked by uid 0); 29 Mar 2001 19:33:22 -0000 Received: from pd9025389.dip.t-dialin.net (HELO l5zy6) (217.2.83.137) by mail.gmx.net (mp021-rz3) with SMTP; 29 Mar 2001 19:33:22 -0000 Message-ID: <001901c0b887$1d7904e0$fe78a8c0@espe.de> From: "Clemens Hermann" To: Subject: redundant servers Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2001 21:33:20 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi, after looking for "the best way" to get something like a cheap HA system running under FreeBSD I am everything but sure what's the best way to go. The tasks are the normal ISP daemons like: apache, mysql, qmail, djbdns, ftpd, ssh etc. I am talking about 1-3 computers that will be some hundred miles away from where I am from time to time. My goal is to keep the services running if problems occur or at least to be able to access the boxes remote and to have all the data available on any box to modify the setup and get things back to work exactly where they were interrupted if one machine partly/completely fails. I thought about mirroring the databases and files between two machines. I am not sure how this could be done the best way. MySQL is no problem but how can I have a live-mirror of some directories? I thought about a cluster but besides the lack of experience (none!) I think there has to be a primary node (=single point of failure) and for that few machines it might not be the best solution. I am sure there is a third way. Money is (as always) a problem, the whole hardware should not cost much more than ~$ 7500,-. Performance is not the important point, availability and maintainability in case of a failure is more important. Any hints, URLs, Books, recommendations are very welcome. Furthermore I would appreciate it to know why my ideas are everything but ideal ;-) Thanks in advance /ch To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Thu Mar 29 12:38:17 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from gw.nettech.com.br (gw.nettech.com.br [200.246.29.51]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3FA1337B727 for ; Thu, 29 Mar 2001 12:38:13 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from karim@gw.nettech.com.br) Received: (from root@localhost) by gw.nettech.com.br (8.9.3/8.9.3) id OAA01613 for freebsd-isp@freebsd.org; Tue, 27 Feb 2001 14:58:06 -0300 (EST) (envelope-from karim@gw.nettech.com.br) Received: from localhost (karim@localhost) by gw.nettech.com.br (8.9.3/8.9.3av) with ESMTP id OAA01604 for ; Tue, 27 Feb 2001 14:57:32 -0300 (EST) (envelope-from karim@gw.nettech.com.br) Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2001 14:57:32 -0300 (EST) From: Karim Mansur To: Subject: Adjusting Tunning II Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Virus-Scanned: by AMaViS perl-10 Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I am configuring a FreeBSD 4.2 STABLE to be serving of email with 5000 users and server of www with approximately 400 virtual domains. It would like sugesttions of parameters to get good performace of schemes. debtor to all, -- Karim Mansur (karim@nettech.com.br) http://www.nettech.com.br To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Thu Mar 29 13:42:17 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mail.tcworks.net (mail.tcworks.net [216.61.218.4]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3BA2137B718 for ; Thu, 29 Mar 2001 13:42:15 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from ccook@tcworks.net) Received: from tcworks.net (staind.tcworks.net [216.61.218.6]) by mail.tcworks.net (8.10.2/8.10.2) with ESMTP id f2TLbFM98857; Thu, 29 Mar 2001 15:37:16 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <3AC3AC81.33A53995@tcworks.net> Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2001 15:43:29 -0600 From: Chris Cook X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.72 [en] (X11; I; Linux 2.2.12 i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Karim Mansur , freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Adjusting Tunning II References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Karim Mansur wrote: > > I am configuring a FreeBSD 4.2 STABLE to be serving of email with 5000 > users and server of www with approximately 400 virtual domains. > It would like sugesttions of parameters to get good performace of schemes. One box? That is a very large number of virtual domains for one box running (I assume) apache. They recommend about 200 virtual hosts max but of course that depends on the load. I suggest having two seperate boxes for mail and www. That way if you need to work on one or the other you do not disrupt both services and the load will be much more balanced. -- Chris o----< ccook@tcworks.net >------------------------------------o |Chris Cook - Admin |TCWORKS.NET - http://www.tcworks.net | |The Computer Works ISP |FreeBSD - http://www.freebsd.org | o-------------------------------------------------------------o To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Thu Mar 29 13:44:52 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from ghostwheel.tribble.net (ghostwheel.tribble.net [206.124.26.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 97BD537B724 for ; Thu, 29 Mar 2001 13:44:39 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from tribble@ghostwheel.tribble.net) Received: (from tribble@localhost) by ghostwheel.tribble.net (8.11.1/8.11.1) id f2TLiYD78599 for freebsd-isp@freebsd.org; Thu, 29 Mar 2001 14:44:34 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from tribble) Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2001 14:44:34 -0700 From: Paul To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: raylink Message-ID: <20010329144433.A78499@tribble.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Is there a way to get FreeBSD to automagically load the if_ray module upon insertion of the PCCARD? Or should I just load it on startup before pccardd is run? Also, when I try an ifconfig of the card is gives me: ifconfig: ioctl (SIOCAIFADDR): File exists it does this whether I compile if_ray into the kernel or load it as a module. Any idea what's causing this? Regards, Paul To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Thu Mar 29 18:31:28 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from inet03.citec.qld.gov.au (inet03.citec.qld.gov.au [203.5.10.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E069B37B71A for ; Thu, 29 Mar 2001 18:31:20 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from sgcccdc@citec.qld.gov.au) Received: by inet03.citec.qld.gov.au; id MAA22664; Fri, 30 Mar 2001 12:31:12 +1000 (EST) Received: from guru.citec.qld.gov.au( 147.132.22.88) by inet03.citec.qld.gov.au via smap (V2.0) id xma022614; Fri, 30 Mar 01 12:31:08 +1000 Received: from localhost (sgcccdc@localhost) by guru.citec.qld.gov.au (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA35725; Fri, 30 Mar 2001 12:31:08 +1000 (EST) (envelope-from sgcccdc@citec.qld.gov.au) X-Authentication-Warning: guru.citec.qld.gov.au: sgcccdc owned process doing -bs Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2001 12:31:07 +1000 (EST) From: Colin Campbell To: Clemens Hermann Cc: Subject: Re: redundant servers In-Reply-To: <001901c0b887$1d7904e0$fe78a8c0@espe.de> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi, I too have searchd (apparently in vain) for ways to do this sort of thing under FreeBSD. If you want to try Linux, there's a myriad of ways. For a start see the www.linux-ha.org. SGI are porting their HA s/w to Linux. There's "heartbeat". There are several types of remote mirroring using "network block devices". As far as I can see, FreeBSD has none of these. :-( All the "clustering" software around seems to be aimed at parallel processing applications. Of course, I could be wrong, it has happened once before. :-) For FreeBSD I would be more than happy to be proved wrong. I would much rather use it than Linux. However one must use what's available. Colin To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Thu Mar 29 20:36:40 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from misery.sdf.com (misery.sdf.com [204.244.213.49]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8588437B719 for ; Thu, 29 Mar 2001 20:36:36 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from tom@sdf.com) Received: from tom (helo=localhost) by misery.sdf.com with local-esmtp (Exim 2.12 #1) id 14iqak-000240-00; Thu, 29 Mar 2001 20:32:54 -0800 Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2001 20:32:49 -0800 (PST) From: Tom Samplonius To: Chris Cook Cc: Karim Mansur , freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Adjusting Tunning II In-Reply-To: <3AC3AC81.33A53995@tcworks.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Thu, 29 Mar 2001, Chris Cook wrote: > Karim Mansur wrote: > > > > I am configuring a FreeBSD 4.2 STABLE to be serving of email with 5000 > > users and server of www with approximately 400 virtual domains. > > It would like sugesttions of parameters to get good performace of schemes. > > One box? That is a very large number of virtual domains for one box > running (I assume) apache. They recommend about 200 virtual hosts max > but of course that depends on the load. I suggest having two seperate > boxes for mail and www. That way if you need to work on one or the > other you do not disrupt both services and the load will be much more > balanced. 200 web hosts per server isn't many. I've seen sites with 2000 per machine, and running with a low load average. E-mail could be an issue depending on volume. > -- > Chris Tom To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Thu Mar 29 23:16: 6 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mail.gmx.net (pop.gmx.net [194.221.183.20]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 912F937B724 for ; Thu, 29 Mar 2001 23:16:03 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from haribeau@gmx.de) Received: (qmail 14986 invoked by uid 0); 30 Mar 2001 07:16:02 -0000 Received: from pd902534b.dip.t-dialin.net (HELO l5zy6) (217.2.83.75) by mail.gmx.net (mp012-rz3) with SMTP; 30 Mar 2001 07:16:02 -0000 Message-ID: <002c01c0b8e9$465f10e0$fe78a8c0@espe.de> From: "Clemens Hermann" To: "Colin Campbell" Cc: References: Subject: Re: redundant servers Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2001 09:15:58 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi Colin, > If you want to try Linux, there's a myriad of ways. I have been using Linux for quite a while on my webserver-box. The problems/inconveniences I encounterd are the reason I switched to FreeBSD and I am far away from going back ;-) > As far as I can see, FreeBSD has none of these. :-( As there does not seem to be a perfect solution, how can I achive a reilable system that involves more than one box besides redundant hardware? Are there any "small" hints how at least parts can be made to work? bye /ch To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Thu Mar 29 23:24:36 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from gekko.i-clue.de (server.ms-agentur.de [62.153.134.194]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 510C337B71D for ; Thu, 29 Mar 2001 23:24:32 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from so@server.i-clue.de) Received: from i-clue.de (automatix.i-clue.de [192.168.0.112]) by gekko.i-clue.de (8.9.3/8.9.3/SuSE Linux 8.9.3-0.1) with ESMTP id KAA04269; Fri, 30 Mar 2001 10:31:48 +0200 Message-ID: <3AC4350F.3BD8D692@i-clue.de> Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2001 09:26:07 +0200 From: Christoph Sold Reply-To: so@server.i-clue.de X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.75 [de] (WinNT; U) X-Accept-Language: de MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Clemens Hermann Cc: Colin Campbell , freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: redundant servers References: <002c01c0b8e9$465f10e0$fe78a8c0@espe.de> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Clemens Hermann schrieb: > > Hi Colin, > > > If you want to try Linux, there's a myriad of ways. > > I have been using Linux for quite a while on my webserver-box. The > problems/inconveniences I encounterd are the reason I switched to FreeBSD > and I am far away from going back ;-) Well, I agree. Our Linux boxes do serve everything well, but maintaining them is a pain in the a***. > > As far as I can see, FreeBSD has none of these. :-( > > As there does not seem to be a perfect solution, how can I achive a reilable > system that involves more than one box besides redundant hardware? Are there > any "small" hints how at least parts can be made to work? To have some failsafe measure short of a HA solution, you can easily set up two boxes. The first is the production server. Use MySQLs replication feature to have the db replicated onto the slave. rsync, cpdup or even tar over NFS gets all the other stuff updated in a cron job. Don't try to automate the switch to your fallback machine: this is what makes HA expensive. Instead have some watchdog scripts check the availablilty of the other machine. If anything fails, send an alarm to your pager, SMS, or whatever you like. Do the failover switch by hand (probably assisted by some prepared scripts). There are just too much possibilities how a machine can fail to have all of this automated without a budget. Just my EUR.02 -Christoph Sold To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Thu Mar 29 23:44:52 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mail.gmx.net (pop.gmx.net [194.221.183.20]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 3F27D37B71A for ; Thu, 29 Mar 2001 23:44:50 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from haribeau@gmx.de) Received: (qmail 2269 invoked by uid 0); 30 Mar 2001 07:44:43 -0000 Received: from pd902534b.dip.t-dialin.net (HELO l5zy6) (217.2.83.75) by mail.gmx.net (mp007-rz3) with SMTP; 30 Mar 2001 07:44:43 -0000 Message-ID: <004f01c0b8ed$4874fbc0$fe78a8c0@espe.de> From: "Clemens Hermann" To: Cc: "Colin Campbell" , References: <002c01c0b8e9$465f10e0$fe78a8c0@espe.de> <3AC4350F.3BD8D692@i-clue.de> Subject: Re: redundant servers Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2001 09:44:41 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi Christoph, > rsync, cpdup or even tar over NFS gets all the other stuff updated in a cron job. is there no way of a live-file-mirroring? In case of a cron I will alwas have some inconsistence. The better ist gets (shorter replication intervals) the more it will get a performance problem. Gan't I get something to run like NFS but the "server should be on both ends" so that eiter one can fail? bye /ch To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Thu Mar 29 23:48: 1 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from cx175057-a.ocnsd1.sdca.home.com (cx175057-a.ocnsd1.sdca.home.com [24.13.23.40]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4FF2637B71C for ; Thu, 29 Mar 2001 23:47:53 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from bri@sonicboom.org) Received: from 98 (cx175057-b.ocnsd1.sdca.home.com [24.13.23.147]) by cx175057-a.ocnsd1.sdca.home.com (8.11.1/8.11.1) with SMTP id f2U7ktF08771; Thu, 29 Mar 2001 23:46:55 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from bri@sonicboom.org) Message-ID: <001901c0b8ed$b9308aa0$3324200a@home.sonicboom.org> From: "Brian" To: "Clemens Hermann" Cc: "FreeBSD ISP Mailing List" References: <002c01c0b8e9$465f10e0$fe78a8c0@espe.de> <3AC4350F.3BD8D692@i-clue.de> <004f01c0b8ed$4874fbc0$fe78a8c0@espe.de> Subject: Re: redundant servers Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2001 23:47:46 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org mirroring, as in raid 1 ?? Promise, dpt and several other companies can help do this. Bri ----- Original Message ----- From: "Clemens Hermann" To: Cc: "Colin Campbell" ; Sent: Thursday, March 29, 2001 11:44 PM Subject: Re: redundant servers > Hi Christoph, > > > rsync, cpdup or even tar over NFS gets all the other stuff updated in a > cron job. > > is there no way of a live-file-mirroring? In case of a cron I will alwas > have some inconsistence. The better ist gets (shorter replication intervals) > the more it will get a performance problem. Gan't I get something to run > like NFS but the "server should be on both ends" so that eiter one can fail? > > bye > > /ch > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Fri Mar 30 0:29:18 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from seaholm.caamora.com.au (seaholm.caamora.com.au [203.7.226.5]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CB3ED37B71D for ; Fri, 30 Mar 2001 00:29:09 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jon@seaholm.caamora.com.au) Received: (from jon@localhost) by seaholm.caamora.com.au (8.11.1/8.11.1) id f2U8Sda22128; Fri, 30 Mar 2001 18:28:39 +1000 (EST) Message-ID: <20010330182839.53476@caamora.com.au> Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2001 18:28:39 +1000 From: jonathan michaels To: so@server.i-clue.de Cc: Clemens Hermann , Colin Campbell , freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: redundant servers References: <002c01c0b8e9$465f10e0$fe78a8c0@espe.de> <3AC4350F.3BD8D692@i-clue.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.84e In-Reply-To: <3AC4350F.3BD8D692@i-clue.de>; from Christoph Sold on Fri, Mar 30, 2001 at 09:26:07AM +0200 Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Fri, Mar 30, 2001 at 09:26:07AM +0200, Christoph Sold wrote: > To have some failsafe measure short of a HA solution, you can easily set > up two boxes. > > The first is the production server. Use MySQLs replication feature to > have the db replicated onto the slave. rsync, cpdup or even tar over NFS > gets all the other stuff updated in a cron job. > > Don't try to automate the switch to your fallback machine: this is what > makes HA expensive. Instead have some watchdog scripts check the > availablilty of the other machine. If anything fails, send an alarm to > your pager, SMS, or whatever you like. Do the failover switch by hand > (probably assisted by some prepared scripts). There are just too much > possibilities how a machine can fail to have all of this automated > without a budget. i was wondering how would something like the andrew filesystem (afs) go in this sort of situation, afs would effectively 'mirror' all teh hosts in a network (segment) from teh designated server(s). it is like a super nfs and rsync rolled into one with a whole lot more besides. there are several implementation bits in ports (coda and others, from memory). i've been thinking of doing something like that here, for redundancy and "quick" rebuild of a 'test-host'. i don't know what sort of a performance hit the network would take. i'm sure it would be somewhat large on the setup and inital file systems build and replicate, but after that ???? another $AUD0.02, regards jonathan -- ================================================================ Jonathan Michaels http://www.caamora.com.au PO Box 144, Rosebery, NSW 1445 suffering construction anxiety ============================================ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Fri Mar 30 1:10:51 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mail.gmx.net (pop.gmx.net [194.221.183.20]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 6084337B71E for ; Fri, 30 Mar 2001 01:10:48 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from haribeau@gmx.de) Received: (qmail 10545 invoked by uid 0); 30 Mar 2001 09:10:46 -0000 Received: from pd9025369.dip.t-dialin.net (HELO l5zy6) (217.2.83.105) by mail.gmx.net (mp017-rz3) with SMTP; 30 Mar 2001 09:10:46 -0000 Message-ID: <009801c0b8f9$4d9d3610$fe78a8c0@espe.de> From: "Clemens Hermann" To: "jonathan michaels" , Cc: "Colin Campbell" , References: <002c01c0b8e9$465f10e0$fe78a8c0@espe.de> <3AC4350F.3BD8D692@i-clue.de> <20010330182839.53476@caamora.com.au> Subject: Re: redundant servers Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2001 11:10:42 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi Jonathan, > i was wondering how would something like the andrew filesystem (afs) go in > this sort of situation, afs would effectively 'mirror' all teh hosts in a > network (segment) from teh designated server(s). it is like a super nfs and > rsync rolled into one with a whole lot more besides. yes, I also had a look at this some weeks ago. > there are several implementation bits in ports (coda and others, from memory). I was looking at coda but it still seems to be in the experimental stage. Can anyone give some comments if it is anyway usable in a production environment? Are there any other afs implementations available that are already final? bye /ch To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Fri Mar 30 3:30:16 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from klapaucius.zer0.org (klapaucius.zer0.org [204.152.186.45]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9726637B719 for ; Fri, 30 Mar 2001 03:30:10 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gsutter@zer0.org) Received: by klapaucius.zer0.org (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 5C92A239A53; Fri, 30 Mar 2001 03:30:10 -0800 (PST) Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2001 03:30:10 -0800 From: Gregory Sutter To: Brian Cc: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: Re: rackmount Message-ID: <20010330033010.H77952@klapaucius.zer0.org> References: <002701c0b271$ec9721b0$2b18d518@fear.wrath.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <002701c0b271$ec9721b0$2b18d518@fear.wrath.net>; from wrath@shianet.org on Wed, Mar 21, 2001 at 08:46:32PM -0500 Organization: Zer0 Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On 2001-03-21 20:46 -0500, Brian wrote: > > For the first time, I've had a reason to get into rackmount cases. I > haven't found much in the list archives and my clueless web searches haven't > provided me much in the way of results. I've found a few companies that > provide them but they list minimal information and the cheapest I've found > anything is $200 for a (empty) 2U case. I can help a little with this part. > I've found: > http://www.rackmaster.com/products.htm > http://www.calpc.com/html/contents.html > http://www.aristaipc.com/chassis/chassis.htm > http://www.antec-inc.com/product/product.html > http://www.starbox.net/ (no parts) > http://www.servercase.com/Rackmountcases.html (most impressive as far as > quantity) > http://www.gorilla.net/ http://www.rackmountpro.com/ (Chenbro reseller) http://www.baber.com/ ( ? reseller) Greg -- Gregory S. Sutter Black holes were created mailto:gsutter@zer0.org when God divided by zero. http://www.zer0.org/~gsutter/ hkp://wwwkeys.pgp.net/0x845DFEDD To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Fri Mar 30 4:13:53 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mail-internal.nextra.de (mail.nextra.de [212.169.184.81]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B622537B719 for ; Fri, 30 Mar 2001 04:13:49 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from Oliver.Blasnik@nextra.de) Received: from f-ex-01.intern.nextra.de (f-euro.fw.nextra.de [212.169.184.9]) by mail-internal.nextra.de (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA37618; Fri, 30 Mar 2001 14:13:45 +0200 (CEST) Received: from omnilinkw63 ([10.49.96.101]) by f-ex-01.intern.nextra.de with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.1600); Fri, 30 Mar 2001 14:09:46 +0100 Message-ID: <00ab01c0b913$2a3ea680$6560310a@intern.nextra.de> From: "Oliver Blasnik" To: "Gregory Sutter" , "Brian" Cc: References: <002701c0b271$ec9721b0$2b18d518@fear.wrath.net> <20010330033010.H77952@klapaucius.zer0.org> Subject: Re: rackmount Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2001 14:15:52 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6700 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6700 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 30 Mar 2001 13:09:46.0531 (UTC) FILETIME=[B18A8F30:01C0B91A] Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi there, one of my default-Visits at CeBIT was at the Gigabyte booth. They did a nice 1U and 2U a time ago, but with some missing features I submitted (and they really implemented them...). So, it was a nice talk and they have following new products coming up, possibly also sth for you: Boards: a)- ServerWorks Chipset, 2 Serials, one as serial Console, 1 Parallel. Onboard VGA, 2 Intel 100MBit-NICs, 2x UW160-SCSI (SMC afair) Dual P2/P3, SDRAM b)- XXXXX[1] Board, 2 Serials (one as Console, too), 1 Parallel, Onboard VGA, 2 Intel 100MBit-NICs, 1 or 2 UW320 Adaptecs, PlugOn for the Raid AccelCard, IPMI Enabled System Dual P(something)[1], possibly DDR-RAM[1] Enclosures: a)- 1U, Single Power Supply, 3 HotSwap SCA-Drivebays, one Front- Accessible Serial Port, Activity- and Failure-LEDs for each Drive, one PCI-X available, and so on... b)- 2U, Dual Power Supply, 6 HotSwap SCA-Drivebays (2 Ch), etc (like above). Afair 3 PCI Slots avail. c)- Something really exciting 4U, huge... SR102: 1U, ServerWorks (out now, I think) SR103: 1U, XXXXXX[1] Board (out later, sample ships 05/01) SR202,203 like above, 2U Dont know anything about the Prices, but the old model (SR101 with two HotSwap IDE Drives and SW-ATA100-Raid-Controller) was worth it *g* HTH, Oliver [1] = Sorry, I'm not allowed to say more ;/ -- -- http://www.nextra.de - INTERNET@WORK ----- oliver.blasnik@nextra.de -- Nextra Deutschland | Oliver Blasnik Senior System Administrator GmbH & Co KG | Lyoner Strasse 26 D-60528 Frankfurt Engineering TA&S | tel +49-69-66441-0 fax +49-69-66441-199 ------------------------------------------------------------------------- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Fri Mar 30 7:21:43 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from ftp.nvg.com (ftp.nvg.com [199.179.254.6]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C663937B71A for ; Fri, 30 Mar 2001 07:21:40 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from Ed.Henderson@Certainty.net) Received: from pnt004 (vsat-148-63-55-208.c1.sb4.mcl.starband.net [148.63.55.208]) by ftp.nvg.com (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) with SMTP id KAA18864 for ; Fri, 30 Mar 2001 10:16:22 -0500 (EST) From: "Ed Henderson" To: Subject: Anti-virus scanner for email Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2001 10:15:53 -0500 Message-ID: <002601c0b92c$50393580$0464a8c0@pnt004> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Importance: Normal Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Anyone have experience with server based virus scanning - in particular = for email? I am impressed by www.sophos.com and there UNIX offering but = wondered if anyone has any real life experience with Sophos or others. Thanks, Ed. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Fri Mar 30 8:19:18 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mta02-svc.ntlworld.com (mta02-svc.ntlworld.com [62.253.162.42]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AC76737B71B for ; Fri, 30 Mar 2001 08:19:14 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from freebsd-isp@sixforty.co.uk) Received: from not.yet.registered ([62.252.56.102]) by mta02-svc.ntlworld.com (InterMail vM.4.01.02.27 201-229-119-110) with ESMTP id <20010330161913.EZJV290.mta02-svc.ntlworld.com@not.yet.registered>; Fri, 30 Mar 2001 17:19:13 +0100 Received: from lfarr ([192.168.10.200]) by not.yet.registered (8.11.2/8.11.2) with SMTP id f2UGJBM10778; Fri, 30 Mar 2001 17:19:12 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from freebsd-isp@sixforty.co.uk) From: "Lawrence Farr" To: "Ed Henderson" , Subject: RE: Anti-virus scanner for email Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2001 17:19:20 +0100 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) In-Reply-To: <002601c0b92c$50393580$0464a8c0@pnt004> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Importance: Normal Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Im using amavis from the ports with a few tweaks on a low traffic (10k mails per week) server, and the NAI engine. Works a treat! Lawrence Farr EPC Direct Limited mailto:lawrence@epcdirect.co.uk T:01179666123 F:01179666111 M:07970780901 > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG > [mailto:owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG]On Behalf Of Ed Henderson > Sent: 30 March 2001 16:16 > To: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG > Subject: Anti-virus scanner for email > > > Anyone have experience with server based virus scanning - in > particular for email? I am impressed by www.sophos.com and there > UNIX offering but wondered if anyone has any real life experience > with Sophos or others. > > Thanks, > Ed. > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Fri Mar 30 8:23:16 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from kira.epconline.net (kira2.epconline.net [209.83.132.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 10A2537B719 for ; Fri, 30 Mar 2001 08:23:13 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from carock@epconline.net) Received: from therock (betterguard.epconline.net [207.206.185.193]) by kira.epconline.net (8.11.2/8.11.2) with SMTP id f2UGNAE19469; Fri, 30 Mar 2001 10:23:10 -0600 (CST) From: "Chuck Rock" To: "Ed Henderson" , Subject: RE: Anti-virus scanner for email Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2001 10:23:10 -0600 Message-ID: <000e01c0b935$b66cc200$1805010a@epconline.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <002601c0b92c$50393580$0464a8c0@pnt004> Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org We use Kaspersky Labs Antivirus for FreeBSD. We have it installed on three servers now, and works flawlessly. It autoupdates itself twice a day(settings we chose), and was very easy to install following some instructions we found here.... http://www.decros.cz/~reho/check_virus/ Chuck Rock EPC > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG > [mailto:owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG]On Behalf Of Ed Henderson > Sent: Friday, March 30, 2001 9:16 AM > To: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG > Subject: Anti-virus scanner for email > > > Anyone have experience with server based virus scanning - in > particular for email? I am impressed by www.sophos.com and there > UNIX offering but wondered if anyone has any real life experience > with Sophos or others. > > Thanks, > Ed. > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Fri Mar 30 12:11:35 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from sixpence.mtcibs.com (sixpence.solveinteractive.com [204.62.227.50]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7AB6537B71A for ; Fri, 30 Mar 2001 12:11:33 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from rch@solveinteractive.com) Received: from gold.mtcibs.com (gold [204.62.225.30]) by sixpence.mtcibs.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA14501 for ; Fri, 30 Mar 2001 15:11:27 -0500 (EST) Received: from trinity.solveinteractive.com (trinity.solveinteractive.com [204.62.225.170]) by gold.mtcibs.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id PAA10208 for ; Fri, 30 Mar 2001 15:11:24 -0500 (EST) Received: (from rch@localhost) by trinity.solveinteractive.com (8.11.1/8.11.1) id f2UKD8159064 for freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG; Fri, 30 Mar 2001 15:13:08 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from rch@solveinteractive.com) Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2001 15:13:08 -0500 From: Robert Hough To: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Routing Information Message-ID: <20010330151308.B58207@solveinteractive.com> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I'm looking for some information in regards to setting up a local peering service. If anyone has any experience in regards to this, would you please ping me off-list? Also, if anyone has any reading suggestions that would be great as well. Case studies would be of the most interest to me at this time, but just about anything would suffice. Thanks for your time, and thanks for any input you may have. -- Robert Hough (rch@solveinteractive.com) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Fri Mar 30 16:44:49 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from tomts7-srv.bellnexxia.net (tomts7.bellnexxia.net [209.226.175.40]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7796437B71E for ; Fri, 30 Mar 2001 16:44:46 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from paul@colba.net) Received: from colba.net ([64.229.229.210]) by tomts7-srv.bellnexxia.net (InterMail vM.4.01.03.16 201-229-121-116-20010115) with ESMTP id <20010331004445.XYUV24361.tomts7-srv.bellnexxia.net@colba.net> for ; Fri, 30 Mar 2001 19:44:45 -0500 Message-ID: <3AC528C9.3D3A3F16@colba.net> Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2001 19:46:01 -0500 From: Paul Khavkine X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.76 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.2.12 i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: Multiport serial board Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi folks, I'm planning to build a server/router console server. And looking for a good multiport serial board, 8 ports or more. Which one is a good one with FreeBSD drivers. Thanx Paul To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Fri Mar 30 21:13:56 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from seaholm.caamora.com.au (seaholm.caamora.com.au [203.7.226.5]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 298F137B71D for ; Fri, 30 Mar 2001 21:13:50 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jon@seaholm.caamora.com.au) Received: (from jon@localhost) by seaholm.caamora.com.au (8.11.1/8.11.1) id f2V5Den04482; Sat, 31 Mar 2001 15:13:40 +1000 (EST) Message-ID: <20010331151339.35685@caamora.com.au> Date: Sat, 31 Mar 2001 15:13:40 +1000 From: jonathan michaels To: Clemens Hermann Cc: so@server.i-clue.de, Colin Campbell , freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: redundant servers References: <002c01c0b8e9$465f10e0$fe78a8c0@espe.de> <3AC4350F.3BD8D692@i-clue.de> <20010330182839.53476@caamora.com.au> <009801c0b8f9$4d9d3610$fe78a8c0@espe.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.84e In-Reply-To: <009801c0b8f9$4d9d3610$fe78a8c0@espe.de>; from Clemens Hermann on Fri, Mar 30, 2001 at 11:10:42AM +0200 Organisation: Caamora, PO Box 144, Rosebery NSW 1445 Australia Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org hello, clemens, On Fri, Mar 30, 2001 at 11:10:42AM +0200, Clemens Hermann wrote: > Hi Jonathan, > > > i was wondering how would something like the andrew filesystem (afs) go in > > this sort of situation, afs would effectively 'mirror' all teh hosts in a > > network (segment) from teh designated server(s). it is like a super nfs > and > > rsync rolled into one with a whole lot more besides. > > yes, I also had a look at this some weeks ago. > > > there are several implementation bits in ports (coda and others, from > memory). > > I was looking at coda but it still seems to be in the experimental stage. > Can anyone give some comments if it is anyway usable in a production > environment? i wou;s also be interesed to hear anybodies 'war stories' as regards anything sfs related, to me it seem a sane way to share data twix laptop's and as we are talking about here a psuedo "ha" architecture. > Are there any other afs implementations available that are already final? open-afs from ibm is sorta being talked about being ported, there have been a few posts in freebsd-afs of late, but as for how far ???? its only early stages for open-afs. as for the others ???? sorry, i mean its started and has gotten some stuff done but there is still talk of how to procede and stuff like that. i keep any eye out for afs related stuff as i plan to replace nfs with afs for purely "jonathan understandable" reasons, sorta grin here ok. sorry i've not been much more help, i just read teh freebsd related stuff these days so i'm developing a somewhat lopsided view of teh world in general .. not a good thing (tm). with regards jonathan -- ================================================================ Jonathan Michaels http://www.caamora.com.au PO Box 144, Rosebery, NSW 1445 suffering construction anxiety ============================================ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Sat Mar 31 5:14:22 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from backend1.aha.ru (terra.zenon.net [213.189.198.210]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5508337B718 for ; Sat, 31 Mar 2001 05:14:19 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from ava@elcomsoft.com) Received: from [195.68.136.2] (account ava@elcomsoft.com HELO ws12.softclub.int) by backend1.aha.ru (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 3.4.2) with ESMTP id 220509; Sat, 31 Mar 2001 17:14:14 +0400 Date: Sat, 31 Mar 2001 17:12:33 +0400 From: "Alexei V. Alexandrov" X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.47 Halloween Edition) Personal Reply-To: "Alexei V. Alexandrov" Organization: ElcomSoft Ltd. X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <754101878.20010331171233@elcomsoft.com> To: Paul Khavkine Cc: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Multiport serial board In-reply-To: <3AC528C9.3D3A3F16@colba.net> References: <3AC528C9.3D3A3F16@colba.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hello Paul, Saturday, March 31, 2001, 4:46:01 AM, you wrote: PK> Hi folks, I'm planning to build a server/router console server. PK> And looking for a good multiport serial board, 8 ports or more. PK> Which one is a good one with FreeBSD drivers. Check the LINT kernel config file and figure out which one suits you better. Best regards, Alexei V. Alexandrov To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Sat Mar 31 6:59:21 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from atlas.rccn.net (atlas.rccn.net [193.136.7.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id E3E9C37B71F for ; Sat, 31 Mar 2001 06:59:14 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jpsp@fccn.pt) Received: (qmail 36867 invoked from network); 31 Mar 2001 14:59:07 -0000 Received: from dhcp20.fccn.pt (HELO jpsp) (193.136.7.220) by atlas.rccn.net with SMTP; 31 Mar 2001 14:59:07 -0000 Message-ID: <007701c0b9f3$33a31090$dc0788c1@jpsp> From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Jo=E3o_Pagaime?= To: "Lawrence Farr" , "Ed Henderson" , References: Subject: Re: Anti-virus scanner for email Date: Sat, 31 Mar 2001 15:59:36 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I'm using qmail-scanner (a qmail add-on available at http://qmail-scanner.sourceforge.net/) for email filtering, without an external virus DB, and i'm happy with it. We only use it as simple manner of reacting to well known viruses, through regular expression hand configuration. You could use a full-blown virus DB, but in this case you might need more processor, keep close control on DB synchronization, and to remember that emails could be ciphered end-to-end, defeating the most clever Mail Transfer Agent anti-virus software. ---jp ----- Original Message ----- From: "Lawrence Farr" To: "Ed Henderson" ; Sent: Friday, March 30, 2001 5:19 PM Subject: RE: Anti-virus scanner for email > Im using amavis from the ports with a few tweaks on a low traffic (10k mails > per week) server, > and the NAI engine. Works a treat! > > Lawrence Farr > EPC Direct Limited mailto:lawrence@epcdirect.co.uk > T:01179666123 F:01179666111 M:07970780901 > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG > > [mailto:owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG]On Behalf Of Ed Henderson > > Sent: 30 March 2001 16:16 > > To: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG > > Subject: Anti-virus scanner for email > > > > > > Anyone have experience with server based virus scanning - in > > particular for email? I am impressed by www.sophos.com and there > > UNIX offering but wondered if anyone has any real life experience > > with Sophos or others. > > > > Thanks, > > Ed. > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Sat Mar 31 7:37:12 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mail.k2access.net (mail.k2access.net [63.140.99.50]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 767FC37B71B for ; Sat, 31 Mar 2001 07:37:10 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from exs@kka.com) Received: from mephisto (k2a61-84.k2access.net [63.141.61.84]) by mail.k2access.net (Post.Office MTA v3.5.3 release 223 ID# 0-59171U1000L100S0V35) with SMTP id net for ; Sat, 31 Mar 2001 09:35:59 -0600 Reply-To: From: "Eric D. Stanfield" To: Subject: webmail interface package Date: Sat, 31 Mar 2001 09:37:05 -0600 Message-ID: <003f01c0b9f8$701c3a60$7ccc29d0@thestanfields.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <009801c0b8f9$4d9d3610$fe78a8c0@espe.de> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Any recommendations on a good web mail interface for freebsd? I've tried EmuMail before and it's functionaly nice but is a resource pig and slower than hell. Are there better options out there? Thanks, Eric To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Sat Mar 31 7:55:59 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from marble.fbcc.com (ns2.fbcc.com [216.54.252.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id E842737B718 for ; Sat, 31 Mar 2001 07:55:56 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jim@jimking.net) Received: (qmail 289 invoked from network); 31 Mar 2001 16:05:22 -0000 Received: from 216-52-255-8.fbcc.com (HELO bluto.jimking.net) (216.54.255.8) by ns2.fbcc.com with SMTP; 31 Mar 2001 16:05:22 -0000 Received: from marble (marble.lgc.com [134.132.228.4]) by bluto.jimking.net (8.11.1/8.11.1) with SMTP id f2VFtrj63830; Sat, 31 Mar 2001 09:55:54 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from jim@jimking.net) Message-ID: <00ef01c0b9fb$11a01e90$04e48486@marble> From: "Jim King" To: , References: <003f01c0b9f8$701c3a60$7ccc29d0@thestanfields.com> Subject: Re: webmail interface package Date: Sat, 31 Mar 2001 09:55:53 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org "Eric D. Stanfield" > Any recommendations on a good web mail interface for freebsd? I've tried > EmuMail before and it's functionaly nice but is a resource pig and slower > than hell. Are there better options out there? I like SquirrelMail. http://www.squirrelmail.org. Not super-fancy, but it's enough to get started, and it's fairly easy to setup. Jim To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Sat Mar 31 8: 0: 7 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mgw1.MEIway.com (mgw1.meiway.com [212.73.210.75]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 58BF837B71C for ; Sat, 31 Mar 2001 07:59:58 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from LConrad@Go2France.com) Received: from sv.Go2France.com (sv.meiway.com [212.73.210.79]) by mgw1.MEIway.com (Postfix Relay Hub) with ESMTP id 0DB8816B1C for ; Sat, 31 Mar 2001 18:13:19 +0200 (CEST) Message-Id: <5.0.0.25.0.20010331175629.024f59f0@mail.Go2France.com> X-Sender: lconrad%Go2France.com@mail.Go2France.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.0 Date: Sat, 31 Mar 2001 17:57:57 +0200 To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org From: Len Conrad Subject: Re: webmail interface package In-Reply-To: <003f01c0b9f8$701c3a60$7ccc29d0@thestanfields.com> References: <009801c0b8f9$4d9d3610$fe78a8c0@espe.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org >Any recommendations on a good web mail interface for freebsd? I've tried >EmuMail before and it's functionaly nice but is a resource pig and slower >than hell. Are there better options out there? found on another list: >.................www.focalmail.com/home/index.html >.................www.cgi-resources.com (webmail script) >.................www.profuso.com/EN/products.html >.................www.relata.org >.................www.wormhole2.com/webml/ >acmemail......... >Alias-Mail.......http://user.solutionscripts.com ($) >anyemail.........www.netbula.com/anyemail/ >Anywhere Mail....www.graphicbrewer.net/anywheremail/anywheremail.cgi >ATDOT............www.atdot.org >Brightmail.......www.brightmail.com/individual/ >Communigate Pro..www.stalker.com (commercial & supports pop,imap,webmail & >antivirus plugins) >Cyberindigo POP..http://email.cyberindigo.com/ >DmailWeb.........www.netwinsite.com/dmailweb >EmailBooth.......www.emailbooth.com/cgi-bin/mail/mmstd.cgi >EmuMail..........www.smtp.com >Endymion.........www.endymion.com >iMail............www.ipswitch.com (Win) >iMail templates..www.hksi.net >imp..............http://web.horde.org/imp (PHP based,requires IMAP, PHP, >MySQL, javascript) >InterMail........www.Software.com >KBMail...........www.kbmail.com/ISP >Mail Inspector...www.mail-inspector.de/index.html >Mail2Web.........http://mail2web.com/ >MailMan..........www.endymion.com/products/mailman/index.htm ($250US) >Mailpeek.........www.mailpeek.com/ >MailSite(Win)....www.rockliffe.com >mailspinner......http://nascent.com >MailStart........http://mailstart.com >mdaemon..........http://mdaemon.com (Win2k) >mhonarc..........www.oac.uci.edu/indiv/ehood/mhonarc.html (fbsd pkg) >MollyMail........www.mollymail.com/mollymail.fcgi >neomail..........http://neomail.sourceforge.net/ >obsidian.........www.obsidian.co.za >OCS..............www.moongroup.com/ocs/ >Openphone........www.openphone.com/cgi-bin/pop/mail.pl >PandaMail........http://bstar.net/panda/ >Pop3Now..........www.pop3now.com >qdpop............http://qdpop.ucdmc.ucdavis.edu/qdpop.htm >Readmail.........www.readmail.com/ >SimplePOP........www.lumtech.com/perl/ >Squirrelmail.....www.squirrelmail.org (supports imap) >sqwebmail........http://inter7.com/sqwebmail (Only supports Maildirs, avail >in fbsd pkg format) > >ftp://download.sourceforge.net/pub/sourceforge/courier/sqwebmail-1.2.5.tar.gz >ThatWeb..........www.thatweb.com/indexns.html >twig.............http://screwdriver.net/twig/ >Umailme..........www.umailme.com/ >VOP Mail.........www.vircom.com >WebAddressbook...www.webab.com >webmail..........www.ihub.com >WebEdge..........Software.com >Youpy............www.EmailPlanet.com Len http://MenAndMice.com/DNS-training : In Austin, TX; SFO, CA; Paris, FR http://BIND8NT.MEIway.com : ISC BIND 8.2.3 "NT3" for NT4 & W2K http://IMGate.MEIway.com : Build free, hi-perf, anti-abuse mail gateways To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Sat Mar 31 8:57:39 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from heaven.gigo.com (heaven.gigo.com [209.245.148.221]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7747137B719 for ; Sat, 31 Mar 2001 08:57:37 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jfesler@gigo.com) Received: from localhost (localhost.gigo.com [127.0.0.1]) by heaven.gigo.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 31BB016E9C; Sat, 31 Mar 2001 08:57:37 -0800 (PST) Date: Sat, 31 Mar 2001 08:57:37 -0800 (PST) From: Jason Fesler To: "Eric D. Stanfield" Cc: Subject: Re: webmail interface package In-Reply-To: <003f01c0b9f8$701c3a60$7ccc29d0@thestanfields.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > Any recommendations on a good web mail interface for freebsd? I've tried http://www.horde.org/imp/, requires php and an IMAP server that doesn't suck. If you are using /var/mail/username, web mail will suck *most* heinously - consider Cyrus, Courier, etc which break the old mailbox format habbit and offer something speedy instead. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Sat Mar 31 9:10:19 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from tao.agoron.com (tao.agoron.com [206.181.233.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9A51037B71C for ; Sat, 31 Mar 2001 09:10:16 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from marius@agoron.com) Received: from quasi (quasi.shredco.com [206.181.233.73]) by tao.agoron.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id MAA29448; Sat, 31 Mar 2001 12:10:04 -0500 (EST) From: "Marius Kirschner" To: "Jason Fesler" Cc: Subject: RE: webmail interface package Date: Sat, 31 Mar 2001 12:10:09 -0500 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) In-Reply-To: X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Importance: Normal Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Just curious, are there any problems running qpopper and imap on the same server? Is anybody doing it? ---Marius > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG > [mailto:owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG]On Behalf Of Jason Fesler > Sent: Saturday, March 31, 2001 11:58 AM > To: Eric D. Stanfield > Cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG > Subject: Re: webmail interface package > > > > Any recommendations on a good web mail interface for freebsd? > I've tried > > http://www.horde.org/imp/, requires php and an IMAP server that doesn't > suck. If you are using /var/mail/username, web mail will suck *most* > heinously - consider Cyrus, Courier, etc which break the old mailbox > format habbit and offer something speedy instead. > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Sat Mar 31 9:53:53 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mail.phreak.net (blotto.phreak.net [207.250.188.230]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ECF8737B71B for ; Sat, 31 Mar 2001 09:53:51 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from operator@phreak.net) Received: from phreak.net (localhost.phreak.net [127.0.0.1]) by mail.phreak.net (Postfix) with SMTP id 766379EE01; Sat, 31 Mar 2001 11:53:46 -0600 (CST) Received: from 207.250.188.69 (SquirrelMail authenticated user operator) by mail.phreak.net with HTTP; Sat, 31 Mar 2001 11:53:47 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <1786.207.250.188.69.986061227.squirrel@mail.phreak.net> Date: Sat, 31 Mar 2001 11:53:47 -0600 (CST) Subject: RE: webmail interface package From: "Steve Kaczkowski" To: marius@agoron.com In-Reply-To: References: Cc: jfesler@gigo.com, freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG X-Mailer: SquirrelMail (version 1.0.2) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > Just curious, are there any problems running qpopper and imap on the > same server? Is anybody doing it? > No need, Cyrus can do POP too if need be.. -- Steve Kaczkowski operator@phreak.net To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Sat Mar 31 12:14:11 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from ns.internet.dk (ns.internet.dk [194.19.140.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E8CAA37B71D for ; Sat, 31 Mar 2001 12:14:05 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from leifn@neland.dk) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by ns.internet.dk (8.11.2/8.11.2) id f2VKE3102325 for freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG.AVP; Sat, 31 Mar 2001 22:14:03 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from leifn@neland.dk) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by ns.internet.dk (8.11.2/8.11.2) with UUCP id f2VKE2i02319; Sat, 31 Mar 2001 22:14:02 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from leifn@neland.dk) Received: from gina (dhcp0.neland.dk [192.168.5.100]) by arnold.neland.dk (8.11.3/8.11.0) with SMTP id f2VKDqo05288; Sat, 31 Mar 2001 22:13:53 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from leifn@neland.dk) Message-ID: <01d501c0ba1f$23cc06a0$6405a8c0@neland.dk> Reply-To: "Leif Neland" From: "Leif Neland" To: "ryanb" Cc: References: <00e201c09c62$fbd45aa0$0e00a8c0@neland.dk> <20010329101658.A87734@bjorn.goddamnbastard.org> Subject: Re: Mirrorred webservers: Updating, logging. Date: Sat, 31 Mar 2001 16:35:30 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from base64 to 8bit by ns.internet.dk id f2VKE2i02319 Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org ----- Original Message ----- From: "ryanb" To: "Leif Neland" Cc: Sent: Thursday, March 29, 2001 6:16 PM Subject: Re: Mirrorred webservers: Updating, logging. > On Thu, Feb 22, 2001 at 01:04:10AM +0100, Leif Neland wrote: > > We're thinking about mirroring our webservers for redundancy. > > > > There exist different solutions, however, I have not seen any mentioning on how to update the sites; the customers shouldn't have to update two sites; it should work transparently. > > Would there be an option to use an NFS server to house all the content > and logs, thus leaving a common thread for any amount of machines you'd > like to slave from a single set of data? A user could edit/upload to > their space housed on a file server with changes effective immediately > on _all_ client machines. > That still leaves that NFS-server as the single point of failure. So that is no option. I discovered some smart guy had set our secondary nameserver to have its files nfs-mounted from the primary. So much for redundancy... Leif To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Sat Mar 31 12:34:48 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from pasionlatina.org (adsl-63-205-16-205.dsl.mtry01.pacbell.net [63.205.16.205]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2280337B71A for ; Sat, 31 Mar 2001 12:34:45 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from eculp@EnContacto.Net) Received: (from root@localhost) by pasionlatina.org (8.11.3/8.11.3) id f2VKYI807325; Sat, 31 Mar 2001 12:34:18 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from eculp@EnContacto.Net) Received: from 63.205.16.202 ( [63.205.16.202]) as user eculp@EnContacto.Net by Mail.PasionLatina.Org with HTTP; Sat, 31 Mar 2001 12:34:17 -0800 Message-ID: <986070857.3ac63f49d4f09@Mail.PasionLatina.Org> Date: Sat, 31 Mar 2001 12:34:17 -0800 From: "Edwin L. Culp" To: Chris Dillon Cc: Richard Gresek , freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: MAIL/HTML GateWay for Cyrus Imapd on FreeBSD References: In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit User-Agent: Internet Messaging Program (IMP) 2.3.7-cvs X-Originating-IP: 63.205.16.202 Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Quoting Chris Dillon : > On Thu, 29 Mar 2001, Richard Gresek wrote: > > > Hello, > > > > I would like to setup a HTML gateway to our Cyrus > > IMAP server. > > > > I anybody using a solution on a Free BSD box? Any > > recommendations? > > Any HTML-based IMAP client will work just fine. I'm rather fond of > IMP (http://www.horde.org/imp), but there are plenty of others around. I suggest the cvs version. While you are there take a look at all the applications. ed > > -- Chris Dillon - cdillon@wolves.k12.mo.us - cdillon@inter-linc.net > FreeBSD: The fastest and most stable server OS on the planet. > For IA32 and Alpha architectures. IA64, PPC, and ARM under development. > http://www.freebsd.org > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message > -- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message