From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Jun 17 4: 1:41 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mta6.snfc21.pbi.net (mta6.snfc21.pbi.net [206.13.28.240]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C28A937B407 for ; Sun, 17 Jun 2001 04:01:24 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jb3insf@pacbell.net) Received: from pacbell.net ([64.171.0.246]) by mta6.snfc21.pbi.net (Sun Internet Mail Server sims.3.5.2000.01.05.12.18.p9) with ESMTP id <0GF200J7KMLY2U@mta6.snfc21.pbi.net> for freebsd-stable@freebsd.org; Sun, 17 Jun 2001 04:01:10 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sun, 17 Jun 2001 04:04:24 -0700 From: Jake Bishop Subject: ALiMAGiK1 chip set To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Message-id: <3B2C8EB8.BC876714@pacbell.net> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.77 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.4.5-ac9 i686) Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Accept-Language: en Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hello, I wrote earlier about XF86 4.1.0_4 and the A7A266 with a Radeon. I changed the video card to a Matrox G450 and X does the same thing as with the ATI card.SO, it seems to be a problem with the ALiMAGiK1 chip set.Anyone know of any patches or fix for this?. Thanks Jake To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Jun 17 11:33:45 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from absinthe2.dyndns.org (adsl-63-192-100-21.dsl.chic01.pacbell.net [63.192.100.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8620837B401 for ; Sun, 17 Jun 2001 11:33:39 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from fred@absinthe2.dyndns.org) Received: (from fred@localhost) by absinthe2.dyndns.org (8.11.3/8.11.3) id f5HIXU132002 for stable@FreeBSD.ORG; Sun, 17 Jun 2001 11:33:30 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from fred) Date: Sun, 17 Jun 2001 11:33:30 -0700 From: Fred Condo To: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Benchmarking CVSup Message-ID: <20010617113330.B24751@absinthe.condo.chico.ca.us> References: <15147.11676.233301.492707@guru.mired.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: ; from behanna@zbzoom.net on Sat, Jun 16, 2001 at 06:57:51AM -0400 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sat, Jun 16, 2001 at 06:57:51AM -0400, Chris BeHanna wrote: > On Sat, 16 Jun 2001, Mike Meyer wrote: > > > Chris BeHanna types: > > > There's probably a better way to do this (e.g., sort the output in > > > increasing order of hopcount): > > > > Yes, but why resort to > > > > > #!/usr/bin/perl > > > > when you can just do: > > > > for i in `jot 16` > > do > > echo -n "cvsup${i} " > > traceroute -n cvsup${i}.freebsd.org 2>&1 | wc -l > > done | sort +1 -n > > I quote: "There's probably a better way to do this...." :-) > > > Getting the correct hop count is left as an exercise for the reader. > > -traceroute -n cvsup${i}.freebsd.org 2>&1 | wc -l > +expr `traceroute -n cvsup${i}.freebsd.org 2>&1 | wc -l` - 1 or this: traceroute -n cvsup${i}.freebsd.org 2>/dev/null | wc -l > > Works great. Thanks! > > -- > Chris BeHanna > Software Engineer (Remove "bogus" before responding.) > behanna@bogus.zbzoom.net > I was raised by a pack of wild corn dogs. > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Jun 17 13:17:47 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from dt051n37.san.rr.com (dt051n37.san.rr.com [204.210.32.55]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 03E5537B406 for ; Sun, 17 Jun 2001 13:17:43 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from DougB@DougBarton.net) Received: from DougBarton.net (master [10.0.0.2]) by dt051n37.san.rr.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA28612; Sun, 17 Jun 2001 13:17:39 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from DougB@DougBarton.net) Message-ID: <3B2D1062.3629F866@DougBarton.net> Date: Sun, 17 Jun 2001 13:17:38 -0700 From: Doug Barton Organization: Triborough Bridge & Tunnel Authority X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.77 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.2.12 i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Erik Trulsson Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG, Darren Gamble Subject: Re: Problems with mergemaster References: <20010608134705.19635.qmail@web14701.mail.yahoo.com> <004001c0f030$36a0d3e0$0600020a@frontend> <20010612120958.G10614@tao.org.uk> <20010613102058.F5486@wantadilla.lemis.com> <045401c0f426$4a45d900$04c8c80a@enchantress.ab.ca> <20010613190023.A72149@student.uu.se> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Erik Trulsson wrote: > I have seen that error as well. It appears that this is some recently > introduced bug in mergemaster (or, possibly, some program that > mergemaster uses). There are some big differences between how install works in -current and RELENG_4 right now. I need to take those into account in a way that'll work for both those two platforms and openbsd. I'm hoping to work on it today. Doug -- If you're never wrong, you're not trying hard enough. Do YOU Yahoo!? To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Jun 17 14:18:14 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mail.ctonet.it (mail.ctonet.it [212.110.160.100]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A1CE337B40C for ; Sun, 17 Jun 2001 14:18:02 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from olgeni@uli.it) Received: from olgeni.olgeni (ppp-95.dial6.ctonet.it [212.110.181.95]) by mail.ctonet.it (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2F0BE1221C for ; Sun, 17 Jun 2001 23:18:00 +0200 (CEST) Received: from localhost (bogus@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by olgeni.olgeni (8.11.4/8.11.4) with ESMTP id f5HLHTx03448 for ; Sun, 17 Jun 2001 23:17:42 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from olgeni@uli.it) Date: Sun, 17 Jun 2001 23:17:29 +0200 (CEST) From: Jimmy Olgeni X-X-Sender: To: Subject: panic: vm_object_deallocate: object deallocated too many times: 0 Message-ID: <20010617230513.D881-100000@olgeni.olgeni> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hello everybody, I just got a panic while logging into Gnome from XFree86-4.1.0_4 (wdm). I was also downloading a file using userland PPP. IdlePTD 5607424 initial pcb at 4307e0 panicstr: vm_object_deallocate: object deallocated too many times: 0 panic messages: --- panic: vm_object_deallocate: object deallocated too many times: 0 syncing disks... 16 2 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 giving up on 1 buffers Uptime: 1h30m31s /dev/vmmon: Module vmmon: unloaded dumping to dev #ad/0x20001, offset 786560 dump ata0: resetting devices .. ad0: invalidating queued requests done 127 126 125 124 123 122 121 120 119 118 117 116 115 114 113 112 111 110 109 108 107 106 105 104 103 102 101 100 99 98 97 96 95 94 93 92 91 90 89 88 87 86 85 84 83 82 81 80 79 78 77 76 75 74 73 72 71 70 69 68 67 66 65 64 63 62 61 60 59 58 57 56 55 54 53 52 51 50 49 48 47 46 45 44 43 42 41 40 39 38 37 36 35 34 33 32 31 30 29 28 27 26 25 24 23 22 21 20 19 18 17 16 15 14 13 12 11 10 9 8 7 6 5 4 3 2 1 0 --- #0 0xc01b566e in dumpsys () (kgdb) bt #0 0xc01b566e in dumpsys () #1 0xc01b548f in boot () #2 0xc01b5825 in panic () #3 0xc02e858d in vm_object_deallocate () #4 0xc01c8ed6 in shm_deallocate_segment () #5 0xc01c8f7e in shm_delete_mapping () #6 0xc01c9851 in shmexit () #7 0xc01adc48 in exit1 () #8 0xc01ada48 in exit1 () #9 0xc0352f3d in syscall2 () #10 0xc0344855 in Xint0x80_syscall () #11 0x804b7e7 in ?? () uname is: FreeBSD 4.3-STABLE #0: Tue Jun 12 22:43:46 CEST 2001 I have these settings in /etc/sysctl.conf kern.ipc.shmmax=67108864 kern.ipc.shmmin=1 kern.ipc.shmseg=256 kern.ipc.shmall=16384 kern.ipc.shm_use_phys=0 vfs.vmiodirenable=1 I have 128MB of ram and loadavg was near 0. Kernel and userland are in sync. kldstat reports: Id Refs Address Size Name 1 7 0xc0100000 3e9530 kernel 3 1 0xc1275000 6000 linprocfs.ko 4 1 0xc12fc000 3000 daemon_saver.ko 5 3 0xc1327000 12000 linux.ko 6 1 0xc151d000 2000 rtc.ko 7 1 0xc1530000 9000 vmmon_up.ko 8 1 0xc153a000 4000 if_tap.ko Is there anything else I could check? -- jimmy To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Jun 17 20:24:47 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from hobbits.brel.com (hobbits.brel.com [203.127.231.61]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D177D37B401 for ; Sun, 17 Jun 2001 20:24:38 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from calvinng@hobbits.brel.com) Received: by hobbits.brel.com (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 8CC2C339A; Mon, 18 Jun 2001 11:24:34 +0800 (SGT) Date: Mon, 18 Jun 2001 11:24:34 +0800 From: Calvin NG To: Fred Condo Cc: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Benchmarking CVSup Message-ID: <20010618112434.C43103@brel.com> References: <15147.11676.233301.492707@guru.mired.org> <20010617113330.B24751@absinthe.condo.chico.ca.us> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <20010617113330.B24751@absinthe.condo.chico.ca.us>; from fred@condo.chico.ca.us on Sun, Jun 17, 2001 at 11:33:30AM -0700 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Greetings, hey, that only count the hops, I would tot avg ping response would be more interesting, so how about inside the loop, do echo -n "cvsup${i} " ping -c 10 cvsup${i}.freebsd.org | tail -1 Regards, /calvin lines with :> are quotes from Fred Condo's email :> On Sat, Jun 16, 2001 at 06:57:51AM -0400, Chris BeHanna wrote: :> > On Sat, 16 Jun 2001, Mike Meyer wrote: :> > :> > > Chris BeHanna types: :> > > > There's probably a better way to do this (e.g., sort the output in :> > > > increasing order of hopcount): :> > > :> > > Yes, but why resort to :> > > :> > > > #!/usr/bin/perl :> > > :> > > when you can just do: :> > > :> > > for i in `jot 16` :> > > do :> > > echo -n "cvsup${i} " :> > > traceroute -n cvsup${i}.freebsd.org 2>&1 | wc -l :> > > done | sort +1 -n :> > :> > I quote: "There's probably a better way to do this...." :-) :> > :> > > Getting the correct hop count is left as an exercise for the reader. :> > :> > -traceroute -n cvsup${i}.freebsd.org 2>&1 | wc -l :> > +expr `traceroute -n cvsup${i}.freebsd.org 2>&1 | wc -l` - 1 :> :> or this: :> traceroute -n cvsup${i}.freebsd.org 2>/dev/null | wc -l :> :> > :> > Works great. Thanks! :> > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Jun 17 22:41:46 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from hn.egroups.com (hn.egroups.com [208.50.99.199]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 659A437B408 for ; Sun, 17 Jun 2001 22:41:33 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kniveton@yahoo.com) X-eGroups-Return: kniveton@yahoo.com Received: from [10.1.2.230] by hn.egroups.com with NNFMP; 18 Jun 2001 05:41:33 -0000 Date: Mon, 18 Jun 2001 05:41:32 -0000 From: "T.J." To: stable@freebsd.org Subject: STABLE build breaking at unctrl.h Message-ID: <9gk4ac+i8or@eGroups.com> User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Mailer: eGroups Message Poster X-Originating-IP: 63.197.0.77 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi, today I re-downloaded the entire 4.3-STABLE branch, and my build is breaking at curses: cc -o make_hash -O -pipe -I. -I/usr/src/lib/libncurses -I/usr/src/lib/libncurses/../../contrib/ncurses/ncurses -I/usr/src/lib/libncurses/../../contrib/ncurses/include -Wall -DFREEBSD_NATIVE -DNDEBUG -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -DTERMIOS -DMAIN_PROGRAM /usr/src/lib/libncurses/../../contrib/ncurses/ncurses/tinfo/comp_hash.c In file included from curses.h:77, from /usr/src/lib/libncurses/../../contrib/ncurses/ncurses/curses.priv.h:234, from /usr/src/lib/libncurses/../../contrib/ncurses/ncurses/tinfo/comp_hash.c:41: /usr/include/unctrl.h:57: syntax error before `unctrl' /usr/include/unctrl.h:57: warning: data definition has no type or storage class *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/src/lib/libncurses. ----- I added an -I/usr/src/lib/libncursees to pick up the curses.h from /usr/src. However, I get the same problem in unctrl.h, and I'm not finding an unctrl.h in /usr/src or /usr/obj. Should this be in the source tree? To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Jun 17 22:54:22 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from fg.egroups.com (fg.egroups.com [208.50.144.70]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id C127737B409 for ; Sun, 17 Jun 2001 22:54:15 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kniveton@yahoo.com) X-eGroups-Return: kniveton@yahoo.com Received: from [10.1.10.66] by fg.egroups.com with NNFMP; 18 Jun 2001 05:54:15 -0000 Date: Mon, 18 Jun 2001 05:54:12 -0000 From: "T.J." To: stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: STABLE build breaking at unctrl.h Message-ID: <9gk524+9pda@eGroups.com> User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Mailer: eGroups Message Poster X-Originating-IP: 63.197.0.77 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > I added an -I/usr/src/lib/libncursees to pick up the curses.h from > /usr/src. Sorry, this should read "I added an -I/usr/obj/usr/src/lib/libncurses to pick up the curses.h from /usr/obj." It looks like this curses.h is not compatible with the unctrl.h in /usr/include. Isn't there a version in the source tree? To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Jun 18 5:24:36 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from sunu422.rz.ruhr-uni-bochum.de (sunu422.rz.ruhr-uni-bochum.de [134.147.64.14]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 5569337B401 for ; Mon, 18 Jun 2001 05:24:32 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from thomas.stratmann@ruhr-uni-bochum.de) Received: (qmail 4594 invoked by alias); 18 Jun 2001 12:24:30 -0000 Received: (qmail 4587 invoked from network); 18 Jun 2001 12:24:30 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ruhr-uni-bochum.de) (134.147.159.3) by mailhost.rz.ruhr-uni-bochum.de with SMTP; 18 Jun 2001 12:24:30 -0000 Message-ID: <3B2DF4B3.C156CB62@ruhr-uni-bochum.de> Date: Mon, 18 Jun 2001 14:31:47 +0200 From: Thomas Stratmann X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.76 [en] (X11; U; FreeBSD 4.2-STABLE i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: stable@freebsd.org Subject: sendmail does not return Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi everyone, have the weird problem that not anyone of sendmail, newaliases nor mailq returns (neither does any one of them return any error message or output). This includes the call of "sendmail -bd -q30m" out of /etc/rc (the same applies if I do this by hand), so I have to hit ^C to continue the boot process. It used to work fine the last time I booted (which means I did not see any errors, and sendmail was up) although I did not change any of my configuration in the mean time. Anyone an idea? Sincerely Thomas Stratmann To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Jun 18 5:33:36 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from cage.simianscience.com (cage.simianscience.com [64.7.134.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7C07937B407 for ; Mon, 18 Jun 2001 05:33:29 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mike@sentex.net) Received: (from root@localhost) by cage.simianscience.com (8.11.4/8.11.2) id f5ICXPR07855; Mon, 18 Jun 2001 08:33:25 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from mike@sentex.net) Received: from chimp (fcage [192.168.0.2]) by cage.simianscience.com (8.11.4/8.11.2av) with ESMTP id f5ICXKA07847; Mon, 18 Jun 2001 08:33:20 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from mike@sentex.net) Message-Id: <4.2.2.20010618083131.02c109d0@192.168.0.12> X-Sender: mdtancsa@192.168.0.12 X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.2 Date: Mon, 18 Jun 2001 08:33:19 -0400 To: Thomas Stratmann , stable@freebsd.org From: Mike Tancsa Subject: Re: sendmail does not return In-Reply-To: <3B2DF4B3.C156CB62@ruhr-uni-bochum.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed X-Virus-Scanned: by AMaViS perl-10 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG The place where I have come across this is on DNS timeouts. e.g. if you have an IP address on an interface that has as its DNS a non reachable server (for whatever reason), sendmail will block until it gets an answer either way. Do all the PTR records for your IP addresses on the machine in question return right away ? ---Mike At 02:31 PM 6/18/2001 +0200, Thomas Stratmann wrote: >Hi everyone, > >have the weird problem that not anyone of sendmail, newaliases nor mailq >returns (neither does any one of them return any error message or >output). This includes the call of "sendmail -bd -q30m" out of /etc/rc >(the same applies if I do this by hand), so I have to hit ^C to continue >the boot process. It used to work fine the last time I booted (which >means I did not see any errors, and sendmail was up) although I did not >change any of my configuration in the mean time. > >Anyone an idea? > >Sincerely >Thomas Stratmann > >To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org >with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message -------------------------------------------------------------------- Mike Tancsa, tel +1 519 651 3400 Network Administration, mike@sentex.net Sentex Communications www.sentex.net Cambridge, Ontario Canada www.sentex.net/mike To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Jun 18 5:46:37 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from clmboh1-smtp3.columbus.rr.com (clmboh1-smtp3.columbus.rr.com [65.24.0.112]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BBDA837B403 for ; Mon, 18 Jun 2001 05:46:32 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from wmoran@iowna.com) Received: from iowna.com (dhcp065-024-023-038.columbus.rr.com [65.24.23.38]) by clmboh1-smtp3.columbus.rr.com (8.11.2/8.11.2) with ESMTP id f5ICh8s10173; Mon, 18 Jun 2001 08:43:09 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <3B2DF7EE.BEBCD693@iowna.com> Date: Mon, 18 Jun 2001 08:45:34 -0400 From: Bill Moran X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.76 [en] (X11; U; FreeBSD 4.3-STABLE i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 Cc: Thomas Stratmann , stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: sendmail does not return References: <4.2.2.20010618083131.02c109d0@192.168.0.12> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG As a side note: if this is the problem, sendmail will not block _forever_. It will eventually time out. I don't know what the actual value is, but it seems like 5 minutes or something, so it could easily seem like it's frozen. -Bill Mike Tancsa wrote: > > The place where I have come across this is on DNS timeouts. e.g. if you > have an IP address on an interface that has as its DNS a non reachable > server (for whatever reason), sendmail will block until it gets an answer > either way. Do all the PTR records for your IP addresses on the machine in > question return right away ? > > ---Mike > > At 02:31 PM 6/18/2001 +0200, Thomas Stratmann wrote: > >Hi everyone, > > > >have the weird problem that not anyone of sendmail, newaliases nor mailq > >returns (neither does any one of them return any error message or > >output). This includes the call of "sendmail -bd -q30m" out of /etc/rc > >(the same applies if I do this by hand), so I have to hit ^C to continue > >the boot process. It used to work fine the last time I booted (which > >means I did not see any errors, and sendmail was up) although I did not > >change any of my configuration in the mean time. -- If a bird in the hand is worth two in the bush, then what can I get for two hands in the bush? To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Jun 18 6:55:58 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from yertle.kciLink.com (yertle.kcilink.com [216.194.193.105]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 724BF37B401 for ; Mon, 18 Jun 2001 06:55:53 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from khera@kciLink.com) Received: from onceler.kciLink.com (onceler.kciLink.com [216.194.193.106]) by yertle.kciLink.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6FF3D2E45F for ; Mon, 18 Jun 2001 09:55:51 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from khera@localhost) by onceler.kciLink.com (8.11.4/8.11.3) id f5IDtpE82508; Mon, 18 Jun 2001 09:55:51 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from khera) From: Vivek Khera MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <15150.2151.255068.511069@onceler.kciLink.com> Date: Mon, 18 Jun 2001 09:55:51 -0400 To: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: shutdown not completing In-Reply-To: References: <15146.35553.917898.825469@onceler.kciLink.com> X-Mailer: VM 6.90 under 21.1 (patch 14) "Cuyahoga Valley" XEmacs Lucid Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG >>>>> "t" == tenebrae writes: t> On Fri, 15 Jun 2001, Vivek Khera wrote: >> >>>>> "t" == tenebrae writes: >> >> >> answers on both ethernets). The console then just sits there. I >> >> never get the "flushing buffers" messages, nor do I get a prompt for >> >> entering the password to enter single user mode. >> t> They try shutdown -r now (-r to reboot). There should be a point when you t> reboot where it will go through the normal bios stuff, then pause for a Yes, this is how it is supposed to happen, but the shutdown never completes, let alone a reboot. -- =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Vivek Khera, Ph.D. Khera Communications, Inc. Internet: khera@kciLink.com Rockville, MD +1-240-453-8497 AIM: vivekkhera Y!: vivek_khera http://www.khera.org/~vivek/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Jun 18 6:57:12 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from yertle.kciLink.com (yertle.kcilink.com [216.194.193.105]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7054837B403 for ; Mon, 18 Jun 2001 06:57:09 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from khera@kciLink.com) Received: from onceler.kciLink.com (onceler.kciLink.com [216.194.193.106]) by yertle.kciLink.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D048B2E461 for ; Mon, 18 Jun 2001 09:57:08 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from khera@localhost) by onceler.kciLink.com (8.11.4/8.11.3) id f5IDv8o85752; Mon, 18 Jun 2001 09:57:08 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from khera) From: Vivek Khera MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <15150.2228.707159.59409@onceler.kciLink.com> Date: Mon, 18 Jun 2001 09:57:08 -0400 To: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: shutdown not completing In-Reply-To: References: X-Mailer: VM 6.90 under 21.1 (patch 14) "Cuyahoga Valley" XEmacs Lucid Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG >>>>> "RLS" == Robert L Sowders writes: RLS> I had the same problem, RLS> I think I was at single user mode, but the file systems were RLS> still mounted and I was still on the network. Just could not RLS> login from anywhere but the console. Looks like single user mode RLS> to me. That would be single user mode, but shutdown is not completing. I'm watching the console, and it never gets to the "flushing buffers..." stuff. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Jun 18 6:57:37 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from yertle.kciLink.com (yertle.kcilink.com [216.194.193.105]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B45CA37B401 for ; Mon, 18 Jun 2001 06:57:35 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from khera@kciLink.com) Received: from onceler.kciLink.com (onceler.kciLink.com [216.194.193.106]) by yertle.kciLink.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2252B2E463 for ; Mon, 18 Jun 2001 09:57:35 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from khera@localhost) by onceler.kciLink.com (8.11.4/8.11.3) id f5IDvZf86703; Mon, 18 Jun 2001 09:57:35 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from khera) From: Vivek Khera MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <15150.2254.958225.335039@onceler.kciLink.com> Date: Mon, 18 Jun 2001 09:57:34 -0400 To: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: shutdown not completing In-Reply-To: <200106152258.f5FMwuT03067@mass.dis.org> References: <200106152258.f5FMwuT03067@mass.dis.org> X-Mailer: VM 6.90 under 21.1 (patch 14) "Cuyahoga Valley" XEmacs Lucid Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG >>>>> "MS" == Mike Smith writes: >> Yes, but I want to go to single user mode to do make installworld. MS> This is not necessary. Yes, it is, the way I run these machines. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Jun 18 9: 3:57 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from melchior.cuivre.fr.eu.org (melchior.enst.fr [137.194.161.6]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 254CD37B401 for ; Mon, 18 Jun 2001 09:03:54 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from thomas@cuivre.fr.eu.org) Received: from melusine.cuivre.fr.eu.org (melusine.enst.fr [137.194.160.34]) by melchior.cuivre.fr.eu.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 43BC97E4E for ; Mon, 18 Jun 2001 18:03:51 +0200 (CEST) Received: by melusine.cuivre.fr.eu.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 92BBA24D08; Mon, 18 Jun 2001 18:03:49 +0200 (CEST) Date: Mon, 18 Jun 2001 18:03:49 +0200 From: Thomas Quinot To: stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Recompiling -stable sysinstall Message-ID: <20010618180349.A11653@melusine.cuivre.fr.eu.org> Reply-To: thomas@cuivre.fr.eu.org References: <20010615145909.A48238@melusine.cuivre.fr.eu.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <20010615145909.A48238@melusine.cuivre.fr.eu.org>; from thomas@cuivre.fr.eu.org on Fri, Jun 15, 2001 at 02:59:09PM +0200 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Le 2001-06-15, Thomas Quinot écrivait : > for map in ${KEYMAPS} ; do \ > - kbdcontrol -L $$map | \ > + (cd ${.CURDIR}/../../share/syscons/keymaps; \ > + kbdcontrol -L $$map) | \ > sed -e '/^static accentmap_t/,$$d' >> keymap.tmp ; \ An alternative to this change is MFC'ing change 1.110 from the file that now is src/usr.sbin/sysinstall/Makefile in -CURRENT: =================================================================== RCS file: /home/ncvs/src/usr.sbin/sysinstall/Makefile,v retrieving revision 1.109 retrieving revision 1.110 diff -u -p -r1.109 -r1.110 --- src/usr.sbin/sysinstall/Makefile 2001/05/10 15:57:16 1.109 +++ src/usr.sbin/sysinstall/Makefile 2001/05/12 09:19:36 1.110 @@ -1,4 +1,4 @@ -# $FreeBSD: /home/ncvs/src/usr.sbin/sysinstall/Makefile,v 1.109 2001/05/10 15: 57:16 sobomax Exp $ +# $FreeBSD: /home/ncvs/src/usr.sbin/sysinstall/Makefile,v 1.110 2001/05/12 09: 19:36 sobomax Exp $ PROG= sysinstall MAN= sysinstall.8 @@ -84,7 +84,8 @@ KEYMAPS= be.iso br275.iso danish.iso fin keymap.h: rm -f keymap.tmp for map in ${KEYMAPS} ; do \ - kbdcontrol -L $$map | \ + env KEYMAP_PATH=${.CURDIR}/../../share/syscons/keymaps \ + kbdcontrol -L $$map | \ sed -e '/^static accentmap_t/,$$d' >> keymap.tmp ; \ done echo "static struct keymapInfo keymapInfos[] = {" >> keymap.tmp -- Thomas.Quinot@Cuivre.FR.EU.ORG To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Jun 18 9:24:37 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from kirk.sector14.net (24-168-222-195.mf.cox.rr.com [24.168.222.195]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7849A37B403 for ; Mon, 18 Jun 2001 09:24:29 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dgl@kirk.sector14.net) Received: (from dgl@localhost) by kirk.sector14.net (8.11.3/8.11.3) id f5IGOIY83070; Mon, 18 Jun 2001 12:24:18 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from dgl) Date: Mon, 18 Jun 2001 12:24:17 -0400 From: Doug Lee To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Panic (malloc: wrong bucket) in smbfs Message-ID: <20010618122417.G76256@kirk.sector14.net> Mail-Followup-To: Doug Lee , freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i Organization: Bartimaeus Group Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I mounted a WinNT share and then tried to mount a second one from a machine which wasn't finished booting yet. I'm not yet sure which caused the panic; I'll provide more details if/when I bump into them... but what I can provide now is a copy of a gdb -k run with backtrace. This is 4.3-STABLE as of Saturday (6/16/01) on a 200 MHz Pentium with 32 meg of RAM (soon to be more if I can help it) and IDE drives. Script started on Mon Jun 18 12:16:52 2001 bart# gdb -k kernel.1 vmcore.1=0D=0D GNU gdb 4.18=0D Copyright 1998 Free Software Foundation, Inc.=0D GDB is free software, covered by the GNU General Public License, and you ar= e=0D welcome to change it and/or distribute copies of it under certain condition= s.=0D Type "show copying" to see the conditions.=0D There is absolutely no warranty for GDB. Type "show warranty" for details.= =0D This GDB was configured as "i386-unknown-freebsd"...=0D (no debugging symbols found)...=0D IdlePTD 5545984=0D initial pcb at 464d80=0D panicstr: malloc: wrong bucket=0D panic messages:=0D ---=0D panic: malloc: wrong bucket=0D =0D syncing disks... 7 7 7 7 7 7 7 7 7 7 7 7 7 7 7 7 7 7 7 7 =0D giving up on 7 buffers=0D Uptime: 1d23h24m26s=0D =0D dumping to dev #ad/0x20001, offset 446464=0D dump ata0: resetting devices .. ata0: mask=3D01 ostat0=3D50 ostat2=3D00=0D ata0-master: ATAPI probe a=3D00 b=3D00=0D ata0-slave: ATAPI probe a=3D00 b=3D00=0D ata0: mask=3D01 status0=3D50 status1=3D00=0D ata0-master: ATA probe a=3D01 b=3Da5=0D ata0: devices=3D01=0D ata0-master: success setting PIO4 on generic chip=0D done=0D 32 31 30 29 28 27 26 25 24 23 22 21 20 19 18 17 16 15 14 13 12 11 10 9 8 7 = 6 5 4 3 2 1 =0D ---=0D #0 0xc01c96ae in dumpsys ()=0D (kgdb) bt=0D #0 0xc01c96ae in dumpsys ()=0D #1 0xc01c94cf in boot ()=0D #2 0xc01c984c in poweroff_wait ()=0D #3 0xc01c501e in malloc ()=0D #4 0xc0399a3e in smb_strdup ()=0D #5 0xc0395913 in smb_vc_create ()=0D #6 0xc0395463 in smb_sm_lookup ()=0D #7 0xc039ae33 in smb_usr_lookup ()=0D #8 0xc03969b0 in nsmb_dev_ioctl ()=0D #9 0xc02010ee in spec_ioctl ()=0D #10 0xc0200e19 in spec_vnoperate ()=0D #11 0xc02f8fb1 in ufs_vnoperatespec ()=0D #12 0xc01fd69b in vn_ioctl ()=0D #13 0xc01d8586 in ioctl ()=0D #14 0xc0379e71 in syscall2 ()=0D #15 0xc036e6b5 in Xint0x80_syscall ()=0D #16 0x8049a63 in ?? ()=0D #17 0x8049385 in ?? ()=0D (kgdb) q=0D bart# ^D=08=08exit=0D Script done on Mon Jun 18 12:17:13 2001 --=20 Doug Lee dgl@visi.com http://www.visi.com/~dgl Bartimaeus Group doug@bartsite.com http://www.bartsite.com "There are no guarantees. From a standpoint of fear, none are strong enough. From a standpoint of love, none are necessary." - from Emmanuel's Book II To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Jun 18 9:39:54 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from lindt.urgle.com (lindt.urgle.com [62.49.202.23]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8B61337B401 for ; Mon, 18 Jun 2001 09:39:50 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mike@urgle.com) Received: from mike by lindt.urgle.com with local (Exim 3.22 #1) id 15C243-0002Ny-00 for freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG; Mon, 18 Jun 2001 16:39:47 +0000 Date: Mon, 18 Jun 2001 17:39:47 +0100 From: Mike Bristow To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: XFree86-4.1.0_4 still broken? Message-ID: <20010618173947.A9006@lindt.urgle.com> References: <20010614125827.A52973@malkavian.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <20010614125827.A52973@malkavian.org>; from aard@aard.org on Thu, Jun 14, 2001 at 12:58:27PM -0400 X-Rated: strategic, Rule Psix, munitions Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Thu, Jun 14, 2001 at 12:58:27PM -0400, a clever sheep wrote: > On Thu, Jun 14, 2001 at 11:28:45AM -0400, Kenneth Mays wrote: > > > > Successful install notes on using these applications on v4.3-R > > 1. XFree86 v4.1.x > > 2. Gnome 1.4.x > > 3. KDE 2.1.x > > 4. Netscape v4.77, 6.1 > > am i just missing something here? > > cd /usr/ports/x11/XFree86-4/ ; make install > cd ../gnome ; make install Did you have Mesa3 installed before you did this? It seems to me that: gnome depends on x11/xscreensaver xscreensaver depends on graphics/gle gle needs libglut which is in graphcis/Mesa3, but if you have XFREE86_VERSION=4 set the gle port doesn't try and make it. If I try and build Mesa3 "by hand", it bombs out. It used to be (with earlier versions of XFree86-4) that Mesa would build correctly if you wanted libglut. So if you had Mesa3 build from the times when you had XFree86-4.0.1, and then you installed XFree86-4.1, then your build of gnome might work, while mine wouldn't. I've stuck script(1) output of a attempt to build $PORTSDIR/x11/gnome and $PORTSDIR/graphics/Mesa3, and the output of "pkg_info" at I'll probably take a week or so to look at it sufficent depth to file a meaningful PR (with a fix, I hope). But work has a habit of sneaking up on me. Mike -- Mike Bristow, seebitwopie To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Jun 18 9:46:53 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from femail13.sdc1.sfba.home.com (femail13.sdc1.sfba.home.com [24.0.95.140]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4FA6537B401 for ; Mon, 18 Jun 2001 09:46:48 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from stephen@math.missouri.edu) Received: from math.missouri.edu ([24.12.197.197]) by femail13.sdc1.sfba.home.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.20 201-229-121-120-20010223) with ESMTP id <20010618164647.LRKL23520.femail13.sdc1.sfba.home.com@math.missouri.edu> for ; Mon, 18 Jun 2001 09:46:47 -0700 Message-ID: <3B2E3077.A3BFCD5A@math.missouri.edu> Date: Mon, 18 Jun 2001 11:46:47 -0500 From: Stephen Montgomery-Smith X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.77 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.2.12 i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: XFree86-4.1.0_4 still broken? References: <20010614125827.A52973@malkavian.org> <20010618173947.A9006@lindt.urgle.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I had problems building Mesa3 with XFree86-4.1.0. I did discover a "work around" which I posted as a PR: http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=28228 This is the process I used to make Mesa3. The resulting binaries and libraries seemed to work fine. cd /usr/ports/graphics/Mesa3 make cd work/Mesa-3.4.2/src-glu make cd ../../.. make Mike Bristow wrote: > > On Thu, Jun 14, 2001 at 12:58:27PM -0400, a clever sheep wrote: > > On Thu, Jun 14, 2001 at 11:28:45AM -0400, Kenneth Mays wrote: > > > > > > Successful install notes on using these applications on v4.3-R > > > 1. XFree86 v4.1.x > > > 2. Gnome 1.4.x > > > 3. KDE 2.1.x > > > 4. Netscape v4.77, 6.1 > > > > am i just missing something here? > > > > cd /usr/ports/x11/XFree86-4/ ; make install > > cd ../gnome ; make install > > Did you have Mesa3 installed before you did this? > > It seems to me that: > > gnome depends on x11/xscreensaver > > xscreensaver depends on graphics/gle > > gle needs libglut which is in graphcis/Mesa3, but if you have > XFREE86_VERSION=4 set the gle port doesn't try and make it. > > If I try and build Mesa3 "by hand", it bombs out. > > It used to be (with earlier versions of XFree86-4) that Mesa would > build correctly if you wanted libglut. So if you had Mesa3 build > from the times when you had XFree86-4.0.1, and then you installed > XFree86-4.1, then your build of gnome might work, while mine > wouldn't. > > I've stuck script(1-- Stephen Montgomery-Smith stephen@math.missouri.edu http://www.math.missouri.edu/~stephen To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Jun 18 12:27:29 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mail.gmx.net (pop.gmx.net [194.221.183.20]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 5204A37B401 for ; Mon, 18 Jun 2001 12:27:26 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from Gerhard.Sittig@gmx.net) Received: (qmail 7196 invoked by uid 0); 18 Jun 2001 19:27:24 -0000 Received: from p3ee21634.dip.t-dialin.net (HELO speedy.gsinet) (62.226.22.52) by mail.gmx.net (mail02) with SMTP; 18 Jun 2001 19:27:24 -0000 Received: (from sittig@localhost) by speedy.gsinet (8.8.8/8.8.8) id RAA15396 for stable@FreeBSD.ORG; Mon, 18 Jun 2001 17:58:15 +0200 Date: Mon, 18 Jun 2001 17:58:15 +0200 From: Gerhard Sittig To: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Benchmarking CVSup Message-ID: <20010618175815.Q17514@speedy.gsinet> Mail-Followup-To: stable@FreeBSD.ORG References: <15147.11676.233301.492707@guru.mired.org> <20010617113330.B24751@absinthe.condo.chico.ca.us> <20010618112434.C43103@brel.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0i In-Reply-To: <20010618112434.C43103@brel.com>; from calvinng@brel.com on Mon, Jun 18, 2001 at 11:24:34AM +0800 Organization: System Defenestrators Inc. Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Mon, Jun 18, 2001 at 11:24 +0800, Calvin NG wrote: > > hey, that only count the hops, I would tot avg ping response > would be more interesting, so how about inside the loop, do > echo -n "cvsup${i} " > ping -c 10 cvsup${i}.freebsd.org | tail -1 No. The previous discussion has shown that ping results don't necessarily reflect cvsupd responsiveness (and cvsup servers don't need to accept ping and traceroute "requests" as long as they serve their primary purpose). If one would count on basic network services, both distance and delay seem to matter. That's why "traceroute -n $H | tail -1" should be of concern -- short of a measure for cvsup efficiency (until experience over multiple cvsup sessions has been established). virtually yours 82D1 9B9C 01DC 4FB4 D7B4 61BE 3F49 4F77 72DE DA76 Gerhard Sittig true | mail -s "get gpg key" Gerhard.Sittig@gmx.net -- If you don't understand or are scared by any of the above ask your parents or an adult to help you. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Jun 18 13:24:41 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from ftpbox.mot.com (ftpbox.mot.com [129.188.136.101]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9774A37B403 for ; Mon, 18 Jun 2001 13:24:38 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from venkatesh.pandurangi@motorola.com) Received: [from pobox3.mot.com (pobox3.mot.com [10.64.251.242]) by ftpbox.mot.com (ftpbox 2.1) with ESMTP id NAA28605 for ; Mon, 18 Jun 2001 13:24:37 -0700 (MST)] Received: [from il27exm07.cig.mot.com (IL27EXM07.cig.mot.com [136.182.15.116]) by pobox3.mot.com (MOT-pobox3 2.0) with ESMTP id NAA14141 for ; Mon, 18 Jun 2001 13:17:55 -0700 (MST)] Received: by IL27EXM07.cig.mot.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Mon, 18 Jun 2001 15:24:37 -0500 Message-ID: <557F0D0BBE89D411A085009027B0F7415F68FC@IL27EXM08.cig.mot.com> From: Pandurangi Venkatesh-AVP028 To: "'freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.org'" Date: Mon, 18 Jun 2001 15:24:36 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG subscribe freebsd-stable subscribe cvs-all To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Jun 18 13:40:21 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from yertle.kciLink.com (yertle.kcilink.com [216.194.193.105]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 524C237B401 for ; Mon, 18 Jun 2001 13:40:18 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from khera@kciLink.com) Received: from onceler.kciLink.com (onceler.kciLink.com [216.194.193.106]) by yertle.kciLink.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9DFFE2E462 for ; Mon, 18 Jun 2001 16:40:16 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from khera@localhost) by onceler.kciLink.com (8.11.4/8.11.3) id f5IKeGH37338; Mon, 18 Jun 2001 16:40:16 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from khera) From: Vivek Khera MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <15150.26416.492225.840765@onceler.kciLink.com> Date: Mon, 18 Jun 2001 16:40:16 -0400 To: stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: shutdown not completing In-Reply-To: <200106181653.aa61403@salmon.maths.tcd.ie> References: <15150.2254.958225.335039@onceler.kciLink.com> <200106181653.aa61403@salmon.maths.tcd.ie> X-Mailer: VM 6.90 under 21.1 (patch 14) "Cuyahoga Valley" XEmacs Lucid Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG >>>>> "ID" == Ian Dowse writes: ID> (for a serial console, you can also add "options ALT_BREAK_TO_DEBUGGER" ID> to the kernel config and use ~ to get to the DDB ID> prompt). Hi again... well, this is something *seriously* wrong with the console lines here... this time I got to Jun 18 16:23:14 m02 shutdown: reboot by vivek: new kernel Shutting down daemon processes:. . and then deadness. The RET~^B didn't work, sending a break signal didn't work. I am suspecting some issues with Dell's serial port BIOS redirection and FreeBSD's serial port console. I'm going to disable the serial port BIOS and see what happens... To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Jun 18 14: 5: 9 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (pc-62-31-42-140-hy.blueyonder.co.uk [62.31.42.140]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F39DE37B403 for ; Mon, 18 Jun 2001 14:04:53 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nik@nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk) Received: (from nik@localhost) by nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (8.11.3/8.11.3) id f5IKq2S39637 for stable@freebsd.org; Mon, 18 Jun 2001 21:52:02 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from nik) Date: Mon, 18 Jun 2001 21:52:02 +0100 From: Nik Clayton To: stable@freebsd.org Subject: Recent FAQ changes Message-ID: <20010618215202.A39618@clan.nothing-going-on.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-md5; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="5vNYLRcllDrimb99" Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i Organization: FreeBSD Project Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG --5vNYLRcllDrimb99 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable [ Apologies for the hiatus in this service -- work has intervened at=20 inopportune times ] FreeBSD FAQ Updates The following changes have been made to the FreeBSD FAQ since 2001-5-14: Added questions: =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D Why doesn't SSH authentication through .shosts work by default in=20 recent versions of FreeBSD? http://www.FreeBSD.org/FAQ/book.html#SSH-SHOSTS Questions that have changed: =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D What is the FreeBSD-STABLE concept? http://www.FreeBSD.org/FAQ/book.html#STABLE Where can I get Motif for FreeBSD? http://www.FreeBSD.org/FAQ/book.html#MOTIF This is a weekly service. Updates will be posted to the FreeBSD -questio= ns, -stable, and -newbies mailing lists sometime every Monday. As always, you can read the complete FAQ at http://www.freebsd.org/FAQ/ --=20 FreeBSD: The Power to Serve http://www.freebsd.org/ FreeBSD Documentation Project http://www.freebsd.org/docproj/ --- 15B8 3FFC DDB4 34B0 AA5F 94B7 93A8 0764 2C37 E375 --- --5vNYLRcllDrimb99 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (FreeBSD) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iEYEARECAAYFAjsuafEACgkQk6gHZCw343Ve6wCdErX11GwpAtln7maCLPZtBaic DnUAn0lGdLCNqwZja3lr0EXMY+skaAkS =gm6s -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --5vNYLRcllDrimb99-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Jun 18 14:21:25 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from elisa.utopianet.net (elisa.utopianet.net [212.210.231.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 00F0337B403; Mon, 18 Jun 2001 14:21:20 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from rlucia@iscanet.com) Received: from merlino.iscanet.com (root@[217.59.173.229]) by elisa.utopianet.net (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id XAA25965; Mon, 18 Jun 2001 23:21:10 +0200 (CEST) Received: from [10.0.0.1] (alice.iscanet.com [217.59.173.230]) (authenticated) by merlino.iscanet.com (8.11.3/8.11.2) with ESMTP id f5ILLGY41952; Mon, 18 Jun 2001 23:21:16 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from rlucia@iscanet.com) Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: rluciamac@imap.iscanet.com (Unverified) Message-Id: Date: Mon, 18 Jun 2001 23:21:06 +0200 To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org From: Rocco Lucia Subject: make world breakage in src/usr.sbin/pkg_install/add/main.c Cc: pirzyk@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi, I installed a fresh system copy from 4.3-R CDROM and cvsuped to -STABLE. Make world breaks in usr.sbin/pkg_install/add/main.c This should fix: ----------------------------------- CUT HERE ----------------------------------- --- main.c.orig Mon Jun 18 18:16:14 2001 +++ main.c Mon Jun 18 23:07:56 2001 @@ -144,9 +144,8 @@ if (fexists(*argv)) /* refers to a file directly */ pkgs[ch] = realpath(*argv, pkgnames[ch]); else { /* look for the file in the expected places */ - if (!(cp = fileFindByPath(NULL, *argv))) + if ((cp = fileFindByPath(NULL, *argv))) /* let pkg_do() fail later, so that error is reported */ - else pkgs[ch] = strcpy(pkgnames[ch], cp); } } -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- -- Rocco Lucia - rlucia@iscanet.com Iscanet Internet Services http://elisa.utopianet.net/~rlucia System and Network Admin C6E6 AC9A 1361 FB38 B47A 2792 9FC4 C52F 7A68 4468 Free unices for a free world. Support *BSD. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Jun 18 15:52:42 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from freesbee.wheel.dk (freesbee.wheel.dk [193.162.159.97]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9FD4C37B403; Mon, 18 Jun 2001 15:52:26 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jesper@skriver.dk) Received: by freesbee.wheel.dk (Postfix, from userid 1001) id E01245D6A; Tue, 19 Jun 2001 00:52:24 +0200 (CEST) Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2001 00:52:24 +0200 From: Jesper Skriver To: Nik Clayton Cc: stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Recent FAQ changes Message-ID: <20010619005224.A26684@skriver.dk> References: <20010618215202.A39618@clan.nothing-going-on.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <20010618215202.A39618@clan.nothing-going-on.org>; from nik@freebsd.org on Mon, Jun 18, 2001 at 09:52:02PM +0100 X-PGP-Fingerprint: 6B88 9CE8 66E9 E631 C9C5 5EB4 22AB F0EC F956 1C31 X-PGP-Public-Key: http://freesbee.wheel.dk/~jesper/gpgkey.pub Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Mon, Jun 18, 2001 at 09:52:02PM +0100, Nik Clayton wrote: > [ Apologies for the hiatus in this service -- work has intervened at > inopportune times ] > > FreeBSD FAQ Updates > > The following changes have been made to the FreeBSD FAQ since 2001-5-14: > > Added questions: > ================ > > Why doesn't SSH authentication through .shosts work by default in > recent versions of FreeBSD? > http://www.FreeBSD.org/FAQ/book.html#SSH-SHOSTS The "name" SSH-SHOSTS doesn't survive the http redirect to perhaps you could use the direct URL's ? /Jesper -- Jesper Skriver, jesper(at)skriver(dot)dk - CCIE #5456 Work: Network manager @ AS3292 (Tele Danmark DataNetworks) Private: FreeBSD committer @ AS2109 (A much smaller network ;-) One Unix to rule them all, One Resolver to find them, One IP to bring them all and in the zone to bind them. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Jun 18 16:12:50 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from sleipner.eiffel.dk (sub19-229.member.dsl-only.net [63.105.19.229]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 879C337B401 for ; Mon, 18 Jun 2001 16:12:46 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from flemming@froekjaer.org) Received: from froekjaer.org (sub19-225.member.dsl-only.net [63.105.19.225]) by sleipner.eiffel.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f5INE1Q50748 for ; Mon, 18 Jun 2001 16:14:02 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from flemming@froekjaer.org) Message-ID: <3B2E8AF1.86B21BEE@froekjaer.org> Date: Mon, 18 Jun 2001 16:12:49 -0700 From: Flemming Froekjaer X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.77 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.2.12 i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: stable@freebsd.org Subject: No rdump on stable? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I need some advise on how to do remore dumps. rdump -0af flemming@tapebox:/dev/nsa0 It used to work, but then i upgraded to 4.3 Stable (It worked on 4.3 release) Now I get this: rdump -0af flemming@tapeserver:/dev/nsa0 / DUMP: Login incorrect. DUMP: login to tapeserver as flemming failed. replacing the username with root gives same resoult. I'm doing this as root. If I do: rsh -l flemming tapeserver It prompts me for a password, and let me in. In the /etc/hosts.equiv i have listed the server I'm trying to backup. What am I doing wrong? Is there another way to acomplish this? \Flemming To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Jun 18 16:48:14 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from easystreet.com (easystreet.com [206.26.36.40]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3D21237B403 for ; Mon, 18 Jun 2001 16:48:11 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jwatkins@firstplan.com) Received: from nightstalker ([206.129.94.230]) by easystreet.com (8.11.2/8.11.2) with SMTP id f5INmAe25232 for ; Mon, 18 Jun 2001 16:48:10 -0700 (PDT) From: "Jason Watkins" To: "Freebsd-Stable" Subject: atrun errors Date: Mon, 18 Jun 2001 16:48:06 -0700 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Importance: Normal Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Since rebuilding apache to 3.20 I've been getting the follow error mailings from cron: Date: Mon, 18 Jun 2001 16:45:00 -0700 (PDT) From: root (Cron Daemon) To: root Subject: Cron root /usr/libexec/atrun X-Cron-Env: X-Cron-Env: X-Cron-Env: X-Cron-Env: X-Cron-Env: root: not found I also have been getting similar mailings from newsyslog any ideas? jason To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Jun 18 17:32:20 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from pt-quorum.com (pt-quorum.com [209.10.167.210]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2F7CB37B403 for ; Mon, 18 Jun 2001 17:32:17 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nuno.mailinglists@pt-quorum.com) Received: from p231-237.netc.pt ([213.30.47.231]) by pt-quorum.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id BAA29123 for ; Tue, 19 Jun 2001 01:25:28 +0100 Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2001 01:34:55 +0100 (WEST) From: Nuno Teixeira To: Subject: Re: make world breakage in src/usr.sbin/pkg_install/add/main.c In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20010619013314.R22681-100000@gateway.bogus> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8BIT Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Hi, Yes, you right. I have the same problem today. I'll be waiting for a fix. Bye, - -- Nuno Teixeira Dir. Técnico pt-quorum.com On Mon, 18 Jun 2001, Rocco Lucia wrote: > Hi, > I installed a fresh system copy from 4.3-R CDROM and cvsuped > to -STABLE. Make world breaks in usr.sbin/pkg_install/add/main.c > > This should fix: > ----------------------------------- CUT HERE ----------------------------------- > --- main.c.orig Mon Jun 18 18:16:14 2001 > +++ main.c Mon Jun 18 23:07:56 2001 > @@ -144,9 +144,8 @@ > if (fexists(*argv)) /* refers to a file directly */ > pkgs[ch] = realpath(*argv, pkgnames[ch]); > else { /* look for the file in the expected places */ > - if (!(cp = fileFindByPath(NULL, *argv))) > + if ((cp = fileFindByPath(NULL, *argv))) > /* let pkg_do() fail later, so that error is reported */ > - else > pkgs[ch] = strcpy(pkgnames[ch], cp); > } > } > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > -- > Rocco Lucia - rlucia@iscanet.com Iscanet Internet Services > http://elisa.utopianet.net/~rlucia System and Network Admin > C6E6 AC9A 1361 FB38 B47A 2792 9FC4 C52F 7A68 4468 > > Free unices for a free world. Support *BSD. > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (FreeBSD) Comment: Made with pgp4pine 1.76 iD8DBQE7Lp46jwdyCmOgT8cRAt/zAKDv9kIOSiEjq5lrUsCLL0obvpOdUwCggZrD 4xKqpMup63PjHgmbc9skXF4= =0abm -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Jun 18 19:44:37 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from hex.databits.net (hex.databits.net [207.29.192.16]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 8D85737B401 for ; Mon, 18 Jun 2001 19:44:34 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from petef@hex.databits.net) Received: (qmail 43160 invoked by uid 1001); 19 Jun 2001 02:44:34 -0000 Date: Mon, 18 Jun 2001 22:44:34 -0400 From: Pete Fritchman To: Jason Watkins Cc: Freebsd-Stable Subject: Re: atrun errors Message-ID: <20010618224434.C42644@databits.net> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: ; from jwatkins@firstplan.com on Mon, Jun 18, 2001 at 04:48:06PM -0700 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG ++ 18/06/01 16:48 -0700 - Jason Watkins: | Since rebuilding apache to 3.20 I've been getting the follow error mailings | from cron: | | Date: Mon, 18 Jun 2001 16:45:00 -0700 (PDT) | From: root (Cron Daemon) [...] | | root: not found http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/faq/admin.html#ROOT-NOT-FOUND-CRON-ERRORS -pete -- Pete Fritchman Databits Network Services, Inc. finger petef@databits.net for PGP key To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Jun 18 21:37: 9 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from relay.butya.kz (butya-gw.butya.kz [212.154.129.94]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EDB6137B403 for ; Mon, 18 Jun 2001 21:37:03 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from bp@butya.kz) Received: by relay.butya.kz (Postfix, from userid 1000) id CAB9528BC1; Tue, 19 Jun 2001 11:36:57 +0700 (ALMST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by relay.butya.kz (Postfix) with ESMTP id 947CA28BB0; Tue, 19 Jun 2001 11:36:57 +0700 (ALMST) Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2001 11:36:57 +0700 (ALMST) From: Boris Popov To: Doug Lee Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Panic (malloc: wrong bucket) in smbfs In-Reply-To: <20010618122417.G76256@kirk.sector14.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Mon, 18 Jun 2001, Doug Lee wrote: > I mounted a WinNT share and then tried to mount a second one from a > machine which wasn't finished booting yet. I'm not yet sure which > caused the panic; I'll provide more details if/when I bump into > them... but what I can provide now is a copy of a gdb -k run with > backtrace. This is 4.3-STABLE as of Saturday (6/16/01) on a 200 MHz > Pentium with 32 meg of RAM (soon to be more if I can help it) and IDE > drives. I know about this weird and rare problem which I can't reproduce localy. Something corrupts memory, but it is unclear where and when it is happened :( -- Boris Popov http://www.butya.kz/~bp/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Jun 19 0:31:18 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from gscamnlm03.wr.usgs.gov (gscamnlm03.wr.usgs.gov [130.118.4.113]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6FEEB37B403; Tue, 19 Jun 2001 00:31:12 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from rsowders@usgs.gov) To: Calvin NG Cc: Fred Condo , owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG, stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Benchmarking CVSup MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Lotus Notes Release 5.0.7 March 21, 2001 Message-ID: From: "Robert L Sowders" Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2001 00:31:09 -0700 X-MIMETrack: Serialize by Router on gscamnlm03/SERVER/USGS/DOI(Release 5.0.7 |March 21, 2001) at 06/19/2001 12:31:11 AM, Serialize complete at 06/19/2001 12:31:11 AM Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Building on the work of others. This should answer the intent of your question. Try these to get the fastest mirror regardless of hops. Sometimes you can get faster transfers with more hops. It'll take about 15 seconds to give results. #!/bin/sh for i in `jot 16` do echo -n "cvsup${i} " traceroute -n cvsup${i}.freebsd.org 2>&1 | tail -1 done | sort +7 -n Or if you don't care about all the extraneous info here's another way. I limited traceroute to 20 hops (if it's further than that just give it up.) #!/bin/sh for i in `jot 16` do MS=`traceroute -n -m 20 cvsup${i}.freebsd.org 2>&1 |\ tail -1 | cut -f5,6 -d" "` echo " " echo "cvsup${i} $MS " done | sort +1 -n These are inefficient/slow, being sequential, a faster method would open multi processes and do them at the same time. The fastest will be at the top but if it runs into a site that answer with a * ttl on the last hop it will be at the top. If you want to build something in to catch this go ahead. But hey, it's not for brain surgery or anything. Calvin NG Sent by: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG 06/17/2001 08:24 PM To: Fred Condo cc: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Benchmarking CVSup Greetings, hey, that only count the hops, I would tot avg ping response would be more interesting, so how about inside the loop, do echo -n "cvsup${i} " ping -c 10 cvsup${i}.freebsd.org | tail -1 Regards, /calvin lines with :> are quotes from Fred Condo's email :> On Sat, Jun 16, 2001 at 06:57:51AM -0400, Chris BeHanna wrote: :> > On Sat, 16 Jun 2001, Mike Meyer wrote: :> > :> > > Chris BeHanna types: :> > > > There's probably a better way to do this (e.g., sort the output in :> > > > increasing order of hopcount): :> > > :> > > Yes, but why resort to :> > > :> > > > #!/usr/bin/perl :> > > :> > > when you can just do: :> > > :> > > for i in `jot 16` :> > > do :> > > echo -n "cvsup${i} " :> > > traceroute -n cvsup${i}.freebsd.org 2>&1 | wc -l :> > > done | sort +1 -n :> > :> > I quote: "There's probably a better way to do this...." :-) :> > :> > > Getting the correct hop count is left as an exercise for the reader. :> > :> > -traceroute -n cvsup${i}.freebsd.org 2>&1 | wc -l :> > +expr `traceroute -n cvsup${i}.freebsd.org 2>&1 | wc -l` - 1 :> :> or this: :> traceroute -n cvsup${i}.freebsd.org 2>/dev/null | wc -l :> :> > :> > Works great. Thanks! :> > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Jun 19 0:32:43 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from abc.123.org (123.org [195.244.241.123]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E125337B403 for ; Tue, 19 Jun 2001 00:32:39 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from k@abc.123.org) Received: (from k@localhost) by abc.123.org (8.11.3/8.11.1) id f5J7WKt07787; Tue, 19 Jun 2001 09:32:20 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from k) Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2001 09:32:20 +0200 From: Kai Voigt To: Nuno Teixeira Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: make world breakage in src/usr.sbin/pkg_install/add/main.c Message-ID: <20010619093220.A7523@abc.123.org> References: <20010619013314.R22681-100000@gateway.bogus> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <20010619013314.R22681-100000@gateway.bogus>; from nuno.mailinglists@pt-quorum.com on Tue, Jun 19, 2001 at 01:34:55AM +0100 Organization: 123.org Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Nuno Teixeira wrote: > > Yes, you right. I have the same problem today. > I'll be waiting for a fix. it seems to be fixed now, Kai -- dreiecksplatz 8, d-24105 kiel, +49-431-22199869, http://k.123.org/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Jun 19 1:29:15 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from gscamnlm03.wr.usgs.gov (gscamnlm03.wr.usgs.gov [130.118.4.113]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F2D7A37B401; Tue, 19 Jun 2001 01:29:11 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from rsowders@usgs.gov) To: Flemming Froekjaer Cc: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG, stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: No rdump on stable? MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Lotus Notes Release 5.0.7 March 21, 2001 Message-ID: From: "Robert L Sowders" Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2001 01:29:09 -0700 X-MIMETrack: Serialize by Router on gscamnlm03/SERVER/USGS/DOI(Release 5.0.7 |March 21, 2001) at 06/19/2001 01:29:10 AM, Serialize complete at 06/19/2001 01:29:10 AM Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I assume you are trying to do this behind a firewall or between machines that have no connection to the internet, and rsh worked before you upgraded. Check your /etc/inetd.conf for commented out services. exec rlogin shell Uncomment the above, kill -HUP the inetd pid, and congratulations you've just opened up three of the most gruesome holes devised by unix. 8-) There are methods to do this via ssh. Search the mailing list for the mesg id OF87D34C0D.D6D2B355-ON88256A59.000ED51A@wr.usgs.gov for a discussion I had with someone else who wanted to do remote dumps via ssh. I believe it was around the 26 of May 2001. Flemming Froekjaer Sent by: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG 06/18/2001 04:12 PM To: stable@freebsd.org cc: Subject: No rdump on stable? I need some advise on how to do remore dumps. rdump -0af flemming@tapebox:/dev/nsa0 It used to work, but then i upgraded to 4.3 Stable (It worked on 4.3 release) Now I get this: rdump -0af flemming@tapeserver:/dev/nsa0 / DUMP: Login incorrect. DUMP: login to tapeserver as flemming failed. replacing the username with root gives same resoult. I'm doing this as root. If I do: rsh -l flemming tapeserver It prompts me for a password, and let me in. In the /etc/hosts.equiv i have listed the server I'm trying to backup. What am I doing wrong? Is there another way to acomplish this? \Flemming To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Jun 19 4:53:12 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from gw2.dnepr.net (gw2.dnepr.net [217.198.131.97]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 13B5A37B401 for ; Tue, 19 Jun 2001 04:53:07 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from land@dnepr.net) Received: from dnepr.net (neon.dnepr.net [217.198.131.98]) by gw2.dnepr.net (8.11.3/8.6.18/01) with ESMTP id f5JBqcE53569 for ; Tue, 19 Jun 2001 14:52:40 +0300 (EEST) Received: (from land@localhost) by dnepr.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA18192 for freebsd-stable@freebsd.org; Tue, 19 Jun 2001 14:52:26 +0300 (EEST) X-POP3-RCPT: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2001 14:52:26 +0300 From: land@dnepr.net To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: SMBFS & weird kernel messages Message-ID: <20010619145226.A15414@dnepr.net> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi ! I compiled kernel with following options to enable smbfs support: options NETSMB options NETSMBCRYPTO options LIBMCHAIN options LIBICONV Also i'v installed smbfs port. After firts use of mount_smbfs in dmesg output appeared following lines: module_register: module dev_netsmb already exists! linker_file_sysinit "smbfs.ko" failed to register! 17 WARNING: "nsmb" is usurping "nsmb"'s cdevsw[] netsmb_dev: loaded Does it hurts ? When I compiled kernel only with options LIBMCHAIN options LIBICONV it panics. No warnings was issued while "config KERNEL" and "make depend && make && make install". -- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Jun 19 5:44:57 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mail.gactr.uga.edu (mail.gactr.uga.edu [128.192.37.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 8D00F37B407 for ; Tue, 19 Jun 2001 05:44:54 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from Robin_Blanchard@gactr.uga.edu) Received: (qmail 2958 invoked from network); 19 Jun 2001 12:44:53 -0000 Received: from qat.noc.nat (HELO gactr.uga.edu) ([10.10.100.125]) (envelope-sender ) by mail.servers.nat (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for ; 19 Jun 2001 12:44:53 -0000 Message-ID: <3B2F4942.9FB06284@gactr.uga.edu> Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2001 08:44:50 -0400 From: "Robin P. Blanchard" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.77 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.2.12 i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: stable@freebsd.org Subject: X-4.1.0 with Matrox driver Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG seems that -DWITH_MATROX_GXX_DRIVER is not actually building the matrox driver, despite being referenced in the Makefile. anyone else seen this? workarounds? -- ------------------------------------ Robin P. Blanchard IT Program Specialist Georgia Center for Continuing Ed. fon: 706.542.2404 fax: 706.542.6546 email: Robin_Blanchard@gactr.uga.edu ------------------------------------ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Jun 19 5:53:24 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8E3BC37B406; Tue, 19 Jun 2001 05:53:22 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jmz@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from jmz@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.11.3/8.11.3) id f5JCrMh98078; Tue, 19 Jun 2001 05:53:22 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jmz@FreeBSD.org) Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2001 05:53:22 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <200106191253.f5JCrMh98078@freefall.freebsd.org> X-Authentication-Warning: freefall.freebsd.org: jmz set sender to jmz@FreeBSD.org using -f From: Jean-Marc Zucconi To: "Robin P. Blanchard" Cc: stable@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: X-4.1.0 with Matrox driver In-Reply-To: <3B2F4942.9FB06284@gactr.uga.edu> References: <3B2F4942.9FB06284@gactr.uga.edu> X-Mailer: Emacs 20.7.1 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG >>>>> Robin P Blanchard writes: > seems that -DWITH_MATROX_GXX_DRIVER is not actually building > the matrox driver, despite being referenced in the Makefile. > anyone else seen this? workarounds? XFree-4.1.0 has support for the G400/G450 boards. I have to remove all occurences of WITH_MATROX_GXX_DRIVER in the makefile. Jean-Marc -- Jean-Marc Zucconi -- PGP Key: finger jmz@FreeBSD.org [KeyID: 400B38E9] To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Jun 19 6:18:28 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mail.gactr.uga.edu (mail.gactr.uga.edu [128.192.37.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 90C0637B406 for ; Tue, 19 Jun 2001 06:18:25 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from Robin_Blanchard@gactr.uga.edu) Received: (qmail 19372 invoked from network); 19 Jun 2001 13:18:25 -0000 Received: from qat.noc.nat (HELO gactr.uga.edu) ([10.10.100.125]) (envelope-sender ) by mail.servers.nat (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for ; 19 Jun 2001 13:18:25 -0000 Message-ID: <3B2F511D.C0B6CD92@gactr.uga.edu> Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2001 09:18:21 -0400 From: "Robin P. Blanchard" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.77 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.2.12 i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Jean-Marc Zucconi Cc: stable@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: X-4.1.0 with Matrox driver References: <3B2F4942.9FB06284@gactr.uga.edu> <200106191253.f5JCrMh98078@freefall.freebsd.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > > seems that -DWITH_MATROX_GXX_DRIVER is not actually building > > the matrox driver, despite being referenced in the Makefile. > > anyone else seen this? workarounds? > > XFree-4.1.0 has support for the G400/G450 boards. I have to remove all > occurences of WITH_MATROX_GXX_DRIVER in the makefile. hmm...the default build of X-4.1.0 did not give me dual-head support. I had to copy mga_drv.o and mga_hal_drv.o from my old X-4.0.3 tree to /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/drivers in order to get dual-head to work. -- ------------------------------------ Robin P. Blanchard IT Program Specialist Georgia Center for Continuing Ed. fon: 706.542.2404 fax: 706.542.6546 email: Robin_Blanchard@gactr.uga.edu ------------------------------------ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Jun 19 6:41: 4 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mail.gactr.uga.edu (mail.gactr.uga.edu [128.192.37.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 323E937B408 for ; Tue, 19 Jun 2001 06:41:01 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from Robin_Blanchard@gactr.uga.edu) Received: (qmail 30474 invoked from network); 19 Jun 2001 13:41:00 -0000 Received: from qat.noc.nat (HELO gactr.uga.edu) ([10.10.100.125]) (envelope-sender ) by mail.servers.nat (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for ; 19 Jun 2001 13:41:00 -0000 Message-ID: <3B2F5669.B3021F5@gactr.uga.edu> Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2001 09:40:57 -0400 From: "Robin P. Blanchard" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.77 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.2.12 i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: stable@freebsd.org Subject: gigabit woes (still) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG a quick summary: we tried installing two different gigabit nics into one of our backup servers. first we tried device wx, then device ti. both autonegotiated to 1000Mb fdx; but provided only 2.67MB/s transfer rates. backing out to the original 100Mb fdx card left us still with 2.67MB/s transfer rates. so our backup server is currently in this 2.67MB/s limbo. i then installed device ti into another test box with a working 100Mb fdx nic. the same problem arose. i removed the card, installed several different types of 100Mb fdx nics and all were frozen at 2.67MB/s with no errors at the box or at the switch. the only way i was able to get that box back to a realistic 100Mb fdx state was by reinstalling the machine. obviously, reinstalling the backup server is a last effort and a not very likable solution. any ideas on how to get this production beast back to 100Mb fdx? (forcing the connection at both ends has no effect). finally, has anyone else found gigabit networking with freebsd and extreme switching hardware incompatible? i must conclude that this is the case as we've tried multiple gigabit nics in multiple freebsd boxes attached to various extreme switches using multiple fiber cables. -- ------------------------------------ Robin P. Blanchard IT Program Specialist Georgia Center for Continuing Ed. fon: 706.542.2404 fax: 706.542.6546 email: Robin_Blanchard@gactr.uga.edu ------------------------------------ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Jun 19 6:41:23 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from smtpproxy1.mitre.org (mb-20-100.mitre.org [129.83.20.100]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 46D9937B406; Tue, 19 Jun 2001 06:41:19 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jandrese@mitre.org) Received: from avsrv1.mitre.org (avsrv1.mitre.org [129.83.20.58]) by smtpproxy1.mitre.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA08938; Tue, 19 Jun 2001 09:41:06 -0400 (EDT) Received: from MAILHUB2 (mailhub2.mitre.org [129.83.221.18]) by smtpsrv1.mitre.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA01206; Tue, 19 Jun 2001 09:41:04 -0400 (EDT) Received: from dhcp-105-164.mitre.org (128.29.105.164) by mailhub2.mitre.org with SMTP id 6946842; Tue, 19 Jun 2001 09:41:02 -0400 Message-ID: <3B2F5657.BCF5F819@mitre.org> Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2001 09:40:40 -0400 From: Jason Andresen Organization: The MITRE Corporation X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.75 [en]C-20000818M (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Robin P. Blanchard" Cc: Jean-Marc Zucconi , stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: X-4.1.0 with Matrox driver References: <3B2F4942.9FB06284@gactr.uga.edu> <200106191253.f5JCrMh98078@freefall.freebsd.org> <3B2F511D.C0B6CD92@gactr.uga.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG "Robin P. Blanchard" wrote: > > > > seems that -DWITH_MATROX_GXX_DRIVER is not actually building > > > the matrox driver, despite being referenced in the Makefile. > > > anyone else seen this? workarounds? > > > > XFree-4.1.0 has support for the G400/G450 boards. I have to remove all > > occurences of WITH_MATROX_GXX_DRIVER in the makefile. > > hmm...the default build of X-4.1.0 did not give me dual-head support. > I had to copy mga_drv.o and mga_hal_drv.o from my old X-4.0.3 tree to > /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/drivers in order to get dual-head to work. Supposedly the mga_hal_drv and mga_drv from Matrox was only supposed to work on 4.0.x, and 4.1.x was stuck using the built in (non dualhead) drivers that ship with XFree. Have you been able to get the 3D acceleration to work with 4.1.0? I'm not planning on upgrading until the hardware 3D bits work. The easiest way to test is to pull up tuxracer. If the game is playable then the 3D bits are working. -- \ |_ _|__ __|_ \ __| Jason Andresen jandrese@mitre.org |\/ | | | / _| Network and Distributed Systems Engineer _| _|___| _| _|_\___| Office: 703-883-7755 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Jun 19 6:41:30 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from hercules.icarz.com (ns1.icarz.com [207.99.22.7]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3433737B407 for ; Tue, 19 Jun 2001 06:41:26 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kenm@icarz.com) Received: from newken (dhcp113.icarz.com [207.99.22.113]) by hercules.icarz.com (8.10.1/8.10.1) with SMTP id f5JDELw03683 for ; Tue, 19 Jun 2001 09:14:21 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <006601c0f8c1$c17327e0$711663cf@icarz.com> From: "Ken Menzel" To: Subject: Sorry had to post this Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2001 09:14:22 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG In short, this is a URL to an article describing Microsoft's current and past use of FreeBSD dated June 18th, 2001 http://interactive.wsj.com/fr/emailthis/retrieve.cgi?id=SB992819157437 237260.djm Enjoy! ----------------------------------------------------- Ken Menzel ICQ# 9325188 www.icarz.com kenm@icarz.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Jun 19 7: 0: 5 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from paperboy.sixforty.co.uk (paperboy.sixforty.co.uk [195.10.242.11]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A3AD137B403 for ; Tue, 19 Jun 2001 06:59:58 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from lawrence@epcdirect.co.uk) Received: (from root@localhost) by paperboy.sixforty.co.uk (8.11.1/8.11.1) id f5JDxvk93879 for freebsd-stable@freebsd.org; Tue, 19 Jun 2001 14:59:57 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from lawrence@epcdirect.co.uk) Delivered-To: Received: from lfarr (daisy.int.epcdirect.co.uk [192.168.6.200]) by paperboy.sixforty.co.uk (8.11.1/8.11.1av) with SMTP id f5JDxsC93867 for ; Tue, 19 Jun 2001 14:59:54 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from lawrence@epcdirect.co.uk) From: "Lawrence Farr" To: Subject: RE: gigabit woes (still) Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2001 15:00:16 +0100 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2462.0000 Importance: Normal X-Virus-Scanned: by AMaViS perl-10 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I have a 4.1-S, and a 4.3-S server both with a 3com 3C985 going into a summit 1, neither of which I have any problems with. The summit 1 goes into a summit 48 in both cases, and feeds Macintosh/PC/Unix workstations at 100Mbit. Doing an FTP transfer from one of these to a 100Mb connected station gives: ftp> get "08 - Out There Somewhere- (part 2).mp3" local: 08 - Out There Somewhere- (part 2).mp3 remote: 08 - Out There Somewhere- (part 2).mp3 150 Opening BINARY mode data connection for '08 - Out There Somewhere- (part 2).mp3' (13304956 bytes). 100% |*************************************************************************** *********************************************| 12993 KB 00:00 ETA 226 Transfer complete. 13304956 bytes received in 1.12 seconds (11.29 MB/s) Which is about as good as it gets, I reckon! Lawrence Farr EPC Direct Limited mailto:lawrence@epcdirect.co.uk T:01179666123 F:01179666111 M:07970780901 -----Original Message----- From: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG [mailto:owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG]On Behalf Of Robin P. Blanchard Sent: 19 June 2001 14:41 To: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: gigabit woes (still) a quick summary: we tried installing two different gigabit nics into one of our backup servers. first we tried device wx, then device ti. both autonegotiated to 1000Mb fdx; but provided only 2.67MB/s transfer rates. backing out to the original 100Mb fdx card left us still with 2.67MB/s transfer rates. so our backup server is currently in this 2.67MB/s limbo. i then installed device ti into another test box with a working 100Mb fdx nic. the same problem arose. i removed the card, installed several different types of 100Mb fdx nics and all were frozen at 2.67MB/s with no errors at the box or at the switch. the only way i was able to get that box back to a realistic 100Mb fdx state was by reinstalling the machine. obviously, reinstalling the backup server is a last effort and a not very likable solution. any ideas on how to get this production beast back to 100Mb fdx? (forcing the connection at both ends has no effect). finally, has anyone else found gigabit networking with freebsd and extreme switching hardware incompatible? i must conclude that this is the case as we've tried multiple gigabit nics in multiple freebsd boxes attached to various extreme switches using multiple fiber cables. -- ------------------------------------ Robin P. Blanchard IT Program Specialist Georgia Center for Continuing Ed. fon: 706.542.2404 fax: 706.542.6546 email: Robin_Blanchard@gactr.uga.edu ------------------------------------ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Jun 19 7: 7:39 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mail.arc.net.my (nagano.arc.net.my [203.115.225.22]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D5ACD37B401 for ; Tue, 19 Jun 2001 07:07:32 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from llchan@eweb-asia.com) Received: from llchan ([202.75.144.37]) by mail.arc.net.my (Netscape Messaging Server 4.15) with SMTP id GF6KKB00.MO2; Tue, 19 Jun 2001 22:07:23 +0800 Message-ID: <003e01c0f8c8$5b193460$25904bca@ewebasia.com> From: "Ling Ling" To: Cc: "Ling Ling" Subject: syslog server error message Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2001 22:01:33 +0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_003B_01C0F90B.66E1BB80" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_003B_01C0F90B.66E1BB80 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi, I am configuring my FreeBSD 4.2-REL as the syslogd server in my local = LAN, to collect messaegs from Cisco router, RedHat 71., and Solaris 8 = server. As usual, I redirect all my syslog messages to the FreeBSD = machine. Things went fine with the RedHat machine, but Cisoc router and = Solaris gave some error messages as follows: cvthname(202.1.2.3) validate: dgram from IP 202.1.2.3, port 48937, name abc.com; rejected in rule 0 due to port mismatch. rejected in rule 1 due to port mismatch. I don't have any idea in this because I do not have a firewall installed = in that machine.=20 I appreciate a lot in advance for those who will help me .. Regards, Chan ------=_NextPart_000_003B_01C0F90B.66E1BB80 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi,
 
I am configuring my FreeBSD 4.2-REL as = the syslogd=20 server in my local LAN, to collect messaegs from Cisco router, RedHat = 71., and=20 Solaris 8 server. As usual, I redirect all my syslog messages to the = FreeBSD=20 machine. Things went fine with the RedHat machine, but Cisoc router and = Solaris=20 gave some error messages as follows:
 
cvthname(202.1.2.3)
validate: dgram = from IP=20 202.1.2.3, port 48937, name abc.com;
rejected in rule 0 due to port=20 mismatch.
rejected in rule 1 due to port mismatch.
 
I don't have any idea in this because I = do=20 not have a firewall installed in that machine.
 
I appreciate a lot in advance for those = who will=20 help me ..
 
Regards,
Chan
------=_NextPart_000_003B_01C0F90B.66E1BB80-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Jun 19 7:16:12 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from solikus.sumy.net (solikus.sumy.net [194.153.148.218]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7073C37B401 for ; Tue, 19 Jun 2001 07:16:09 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from solik@solikus.sumy.net) Received: (from solik@localhost) by solikus.sumy.net (8.11.4/8.11.4) id f5JEG8w02295 for freebsd-stable@freebsd.org; Tue, 19 Jun 2001 17:16:08 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from solik) Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2001 17:16:08 +0300 From: Sergey Solyanik To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: PLX PCI9052 Message-ID: <20010619171608.C2222@solikus.sumy.net> Mail-Followup-To: Sergey Solyanik , freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i X-BeerTo: solik@sumy.net Organization: SIM, ISP Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hello! What with the status of support in -STABLE for PLX PCI9052 bridge? Is it suported? -- SSV3-RIPE Does your software support http://www.sumy.net/ RFC 2821 and RFC 2822? Eh? To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Jun 19 7:29:36 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from serenity.mcc.ac.uk (serenity.mcc.ac.uk [130.88.200.93]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 913D737B401 for ; Tue, 19 Jun 2001 07:29:32 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from rasputin@freebsd-uk.eu.org) Received: from dogma.freebsd-uk.eu.org ([130.88.200.97] ident=root) by serenity.mcc.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 2.05 #6) id 15CMVX-000KL5-00 for stable@freebsd.org; Tue, 19 Jun 2001 15:29:31 +0100 Received: (from rasputin@localhost) by dogma.freebsd-uk.eu.org (8.11.3/8.11.1) id f5JETVO74009 for stable@freebsd.org; Tue, 19 Jun 2001 15:29:31 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from rasputin) Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2001 15:29:31 +0100 From: Rasputin To: stable@freebsd.org Subject: rolling back the ports tree Message-ID: <20010619152931.A73968@dogma.freebsd-uk.eu.org> Reply-To: Rasputin Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0.1i Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi, quick question: does anyone know how to roll back the ports tree to a particular date? Actually, I want the version of two ports from around a month ago (Glide and Xfree86-4) so I can get DRI working on a Voodoo 3. I tried using the usual date tag (ignoring the advice in the sample supfile) and, sure enough, cvsup merrily tw*tted the whole of /usr/ports (although it doesn't seem to follow symlinks, luckily enough) If anyone knows, please tell me the secret. (and please cc me in to any reply since I'm not tracking the mailing lists this week.) Cheers. -- "But officer, I was only trying to gain enough speed so I could coast to the nearest gas station." Rasputin :: Jack of All Trades - Master of Nuns :: To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Jun 19 7:38:36 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from femail13.sdc1.sfba.home.com (femail13.sdc1.sfba.home.com [24.0.95.140]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BE29637B401 for ; Tue, 19 Jun 2001 07:38:32 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from stephen@math.missouri.edu) Received: from math.missouri.edu ([24.12.197.197]) by femail13.sdc1.sfba.home.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.20 201-229-121-120-20010223) with ESMTP id <20010619143832.OPAI23520.femail13.sdc1.sfba.home.com@math.missouri.edu>; Tue, 19 Jun 2001 07:38:32 -0700 Message-ID: <3B2F63E7.9683C5F1@math.missouri.edu> Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2001 09:38:31 -0500 From: Stephen Montgomery-Smith X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.77 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.2.12 i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Rasputin Cc: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: rolling back the ports tree References: <20010619152931.A73968@dogma.freebsd-uk.eu.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG An easy way is to use CTM. Just collect a delta dated a few months ago from ftp://ns3.saargate.de/pub/FreeBSD/CTM/ports-cur Rasputin wrote: > > Hi, quick question: > > does anyone know how to roll back the ports tree to a particular date? -- Stephen Montgomery-Smith stephen@math.missouri.edu http://www.math.missouri.edu/~stephen To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Jun 19 7:54:14 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mail.communityconnect.com (mail.communityconnect.com [209.10.169.57]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0F19837B403 for ; Tue, 19 Jun 2001 07:54:02 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from marius@mail.communityconnect.com) Received: from amavis by mail.communityconnect.com with scanned-ok (Exim 3.20 #1) id 15CMtE-00005a-00 for stable@freebsd.org; Tue, 19 Jun 2001 10:54:00 -0400 Received: from [206.28.215.90] (helo=utterlux.hq.communitconnect.com) by mail.communityconnect.com with esmtp (Exim 3.20 #1) id 15CMt5-0008Ed-00; Tue, 19 Jun 2001 10:53:51 -0400 Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2001 10:53:54 -0400 (EDT) From: Marius X-Sender: marius@utterlux.hq.communitconnect.com To: jaime@snowmoon.com Cc: questions@FreeBSD.org, stable@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: running out of buffer space for sockets Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG *smile* Given my sometimes hideous abuse of the English language, it does not surprise me that someone would think I made a typo. Actually, I meant what I said. I am using thttpd not httpd. It is a single instance, spawning no children. You have a point though, I will indeed scan the docs to see if there is anything on thttpd's side that can be done to quell the tide. The pecular part about this is that my 3.5-Stable servers don't have such problems. With the same augents to the kernel (maxusers at 128 and NMBCLUSTERS at 16384) my 4.2-Stable box had significantly fewer kernel resources then my 3.5-Stable boxen. It would freeze up and die (couldn't open more filehandles) after about a day of serving. I manually uped kern.maxfiles, kern.maxfilesperproc, kern.maxvnodes with sysctl to give it values equal to the cluster of 3.5-Stable boxen that could serve for weeks without any such problems. (I think it helped) But now after +2 weeks up uptime I am running buffer space to create more sockets. If I can't create sockets, I can't network. Yes, the root of this problem is that I don't even know how to check how much buffer space is available for the creation of new sockets. Whether it is a kernal tweak/config or something far more basic, I am striving to understand the problem so I can resolve it. This is a bit out of my normal area of experience, and I am trying to learn all that I can. Any guidence from idividuals or list members would be appreciated. -Marius B.T.W. Please cc: me in all replies. > One of my webservers is having an on-again, off-again problem with > networking. When the load gets up there (thttpd is pushing maybe 15MB > right now) I begin to run out of buffer space to create sockets. Heya old pal. :) Honestly, I think that looking at the kernel in this case is like rebuilding the foundation of a house when all that's needed is an extra layer of paint in the basement. You know, massive over kill. Look into your apache config files for something that will help. I found the following in mine: # # MaxRequestsPerChild: the number of requests each child process is # allowed to process before the child dies. The child will exit so # as to avoid problems after prolonged use when Apache (and maybe the # libraries it uses) leak memory or other resources. On most systems, this # isn't really needed, but a few (such as Solaris) do have notable leaks # in the libraries. For these platforms, set to something like 10000 # or so; a setting of 0 means unlimited. # # NOTE: This value does not include keepalive requests after the initial # request per connection. For example, if a child process handles # an initial request and 10 subsequent "keptalive" requests, it # would only count as 1 request towards this limit. # MaxRequestsPerChild 0 You should just tell apache to "recycle" child processes after they answer a certain number of requests. This will keep them from getting too big. Good luck, Jaime ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Mon, 18 Jun 2001 18:06:30 -0400 (EDT) From: Marius To: questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: running out of buffer space for sockets One of my webservers is having an on-again, off-again problem with networking. When the load gets up there (thttpd is pushing maybe 15MB right now) I begin to run out of buffer space to create sockets. >Jun 18 16:44:01 cc124 sendmail[39781]: f5IKi1439781: SYSERR(root): makeconnection: cannot create socket: No buffer space available >Jun 18 16:44:01 cc124 sendmail[39781]: f5IKi1439781: SYSERR(root): makeconnection: cannot create socket: No buffer space available I get similar or related messages when I try to ping someone, use tcpdump, do an nslookup etc. Running one of these the commands in quick succession produces some successes, some failures, right after one another. I have networking fairly beefed up: ># sysclt -a |grep max >kern.maxvnodes: 129508 >kern.maxproc: 2068 >kern.maxfiles: 65536 >...snip... >kern.maxfilesperproc: 65500 >kern.maxprocperuid: 2067 >kern.ipc.maxsockbuf: 262144 >kern.ipc.somaxconn: 256 >...snip... >kern.ipc.maxsockets: 16384 >...snip... >vfs.maxbufspace: 117932032 >vfs.maxmallocbufspace: 5863833 ># netstat -m >7115/8624/65536 mbufs in use (current/peak/max): > 5454 mbufs allocated to data > 1661 mbufs allocated to packet headers >5056/5854/16384 mbuf clusters in use (current/peak/max) >13864 Kbytes allocated to network (28% of mb_map in use) >0 requests for memory denied >0 requests for memory delayed >0 calls to protocol drain routines Basically I am trying to figure out if I can tweak something to make this scarce resource less scarce. I could try changing some of the MIB's but I am not totally sure whcih ones would effect this. I am researching this the best I can, but I feel a bit overwhelmed. I'd hate to tweak something up beyond sane levels unknowingly. Pointers or suggestions would be appreciated. system info: 4.2-STABLE FreeBSD Dual 700Mhz Processors 1 GB RAM 2 eepro100 NIC cards (100baseTX ) -Marius To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Jun 19 8: 8: 5 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from smtp013.mail.yahoo.com (smtp013.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.173.57]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id EEC4D37B403 for ; Tue, 19 Jun 2001 08:08:02 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from angshumand@yahoo.com) Received: from unknown (HELO icarus) (164.164.12.42) by smtp.mail.vip.sc5.yahoo.com with SMTP; 19 Jun 2001 15:08:02 -0000 X-Apparently-From: Received: from adg by icarus with local (Exim 3.22 #1 (Debian)) id 15CN9X-0001rL-00; Tue, 19 Jun 2001 20:40:51 +0530 Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2001 20:40:51 +0530 To: Ken Menzel Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Sorry had to post this Message-ID: <20010619204051.A5697@yahoo.com> References: <006601c0f8c1$c17327e0$711663cf@icarz.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <006601c0f8c1$c17327e0$711663cf@icarz.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.18i From: Angshuman Dasgupta Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG ... but the link is broken - possibly because the service is available only to subscribers. it would be real nice if people didn't put this kind of stuff (as it is, the traffic's heavy) on this forum. and if they did - it would be appreciated if the links at least WORK... On Tue, Jun 19, 2001 at 09:14:22AM -0400, Ken Menzel wrote: > In short, this is a URL to an article describing Microsoft's current > and past use of FreeBSD dated June 18th, 2001 > > http://interactive.wsj.com/fr/emailthis/retrieve.cgi?id=SB992819157437 > 237260.djm > > > Enjoy! > ----------------------------------------------------- > Ken Menzel ICQ# 9325188 > www.icarz.com kenm@icarz.com > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Jun 19 8: 9:53 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from bcrail.com (ftp.bcrail.com [198.57.70.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B6B5137B401 for ; Tue, 19 Jun 2001 08:09:50 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ChildsC@bcrail.com) Received: by gatekeeper.bcrail.com id <119087>; Tue, 19 Jun 2001 08:07:43 -0700 Content-return: allowed Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2001 08:09:28 -0700 From: ChildsC@bcrail.com Subject: RE: Sorry had to post this To: angshumand@yahoo.com, kenm@icarz.com Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Message-Id: <01Jun19.080743pdt.119087@gatekeeper.bcrail.com> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG The link isn't broken, the line is... Chris -----Original Message----- From: Angshuman Dasgupta [mailto:angshumand@yahoo.com] Sent: Tuesday, June 19, 2001 8:11 AM To: Ken Menzel Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Sorry had to post this ... but the link is broken - possibly because the service is available only to subscribers. it would be real nice if people didn't put this kind of stuff (as it is, the traffic's heavy) on this forum. and if they did - it would be appreciated if the links at least WORK... On Tue, Jun 19, 2001 at 09:14:22AM -0400, Ken Menzel wrote: > In short, this is a URL to an article describing Microsoft's current > and past use of FreeBSD dated June 18th, 2001 > > http://interactive.wsj.com/fr/emailthis/retrieve.cgi?id=SB992819157437 > 237260.djm > > > Enjoy! > ----------------------------------------------------- > Ken Menzel ICQ# 9325188 > www.icarz.com kenm@icarz.com > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Jun 19 8:15:59 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from imr2.ericy.com (imr2.ericy.com [12.34.240.68]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 38D5B37B403 for ; Tue, 19 Jun 2001 08:15:55 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from Antoine.Beaupre@ericsson.ca) Received: from mr7.exu.ericsson.se (mr7att.ericy.com [138.85.92.15]) by imr2.ericy.com (8.11.3/8.11.3) with ESMTP id f5JFFhR23039; Tue, 19 Jun 2001 10:15:44 -0500 (CDT) Received: from noah.lmc.ericsson.se (noah.lmc.ericsson.se [142.133.1.1]) by mr7.exu.ericsson.se (8.11.3/8.11.3) with ESMTP id f5JFFeg11045; Tue, 19 Jun 2001 10:15:40 -0500 (CDT) Received: from lmc35.lmc.ericsson.se (lmc35.lmc.ericsson.se [142.133.16.175]) by noah.lmc.ericsson.se (8.11.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id f5JFFcG23811; Tue, 19 Jun 2001 11:15:39 -0400 (EDT) Received: by lmc35.lmc.ericsson.se with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Tue, 19 Jun 2001 11:15:36 -0400 Received: from lmc.ericsson.se (lmcpc100455.pc.lmc.ericsson.se [142.133.23.150]) by LMC37.lmc.ericsson.se with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2653.13) id NHB84L8D; Tue, 19 Jun 2001 09:55:45 -0400 From: "Antoine Beaupre (LMC)" To: Flemming Froekjaer Cc: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Message-ID: <3B2F59E2.3050507@lmc.ericsson.se> Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2001 09:55:46 -0400 Organization: LMC, Ericsson Research Canada User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; WinNT4.0; en-US; rv:0.9.1) Gecko/20010607 X-Accept-Language: en,fr-CA,fr MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: No rdump on stable? References: <3B2E8AF1.86B21BEE@froekjaer.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I might be way off here, but I think dump might use ssh(1) instead of rsh(1) by default now. Or is it? A. Flemming Froekjaer wrote: > I need some advise on how to do remore dumps. > rdump -0af flemming@tapebox:/dev/nsa0 > It used to work, but then i upgraded to 4.3 Stable (It worked on 4.3 > release) > Now I get this: > > rdump -0af flemming@tapeserver:/dev/nsa0 / > DUMP: Login incorrect. > DUMP: login to tapeserver as flemming failed. > > replacing the username with root gives same resoult. > I'm doing this as root. > > If I do: > rsh -l flemming tapeserver > It prompts me for a password, and let me in. > > In the /etc/hosts.equiv i have listed the server I'm trying to backup. > > What am I doing wrong? Is there another way to acomplish this? > > \Flemming > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message > -- Antoine Beaupré LMC/K TCM team To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Jun 19 8:17:39 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from imr1.ericy.com (imr1.ericy.com [208.237.135.240]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0A57237B406 for ; Tue, 19 Jun 2001 08:17:32 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from Antoine.Beaupre@ericsson.ca) Received: from mr5.exu.ericsson.se (mr5u3.ericy.com [208.237.135.124]) by imr1.ericy.com (8.11.3/8.11.3) with ESMTP id f5JFHTa12788; Tue, 19 Jun 2001 10:17:29 -0500 (CDT) Received: from noah.lmc.ericsson.se (noah.lmc.ericsson.se [142.133.1.1]) by mr5.exu.ericsson.se (8.11.3/8.11.3) with ESMTP id f5JFHOM16366; Tue, 19 Jun 2001 10:17:24 -0500 (CDT) Received: from lmc35.lmc.ericsson.se (lmc35.lmc.ericsson.se [142.133.16.175]) by noah.lmc.ericsson.se (8.11.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id f5JFHMG24403; Tue, 19 Jun 2001 11:17:23 -0400 (EDT) Received: by lmc35.lmc.ericsson.se with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Tue, 19 Jun 2001 11:17:20 -0400 Received: from lmc.ericsson.se (lmcpc100455.pc.lmc.ericsson.se [142.133.23.150]) by LMC37.lmc.ericsson.se with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2653.13) id NHB84M0F; Tue, 19 Jun 2001 10:39:57 -0400 From: "Antoine Beaupre (LMC)" To: Rasputin Cc: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Message-ID: <3B2F643C.1050505@lmc.ericsson.se> Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2001 10:39:56 -0400 Organization: LMC, Ericsson Research Canada User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; WinNT4.0; en-US; rv:0.9.1) Gecko/20010607 X-Accept-Language: en,fr-CA,fr MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: rolling back the ports tree References: <20010619152931.A73968@dogma.freebsd-uk.eu.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG You'll probably be able to do it with: mv /usr/ports /usr/ports-new cvsup ports-supfile A. Rasputin wrote: > Hi, quick question: > > does anyone know how to roll back the ports tree to a particular date? > > Actually, I want the version of two ports from around a month ago > (Glide and Xfree86-4) so I can get DRI working on a Voodoo 3. > > I tried using the usual date tag > (ignoring the advice in the sample supfile) > and, sure enough, cvsup merrily tw*tted the whole of /usr/ports > > (although it doesn't seem to follow symlinks, luckily enough) > > If anyone knows, please tell me the secret. > (and please cc me in to any reply since I'm > not tracking the mailing lists this week.) > > Cheers. -- Antoine Beaupré LMC/K TCM team To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Jun 19 8:44:56 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from awww.jeah.net (awww.jeah.net [216.111.239.130]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 448B537B40A for ; Tue, 19 Jun 2001 08:44:54 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from chris@jeah.net) Received: from localhost (chris@localhost) by awww.jeah.net (8.11.3/8.11.3) with ESMTP id f5JFGPY23089; Tue, 19 Jun 2001 10:16:25 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from chris@jeah.net) Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2001 10:16:23 -0500 (CDT) From: Chris Byrnes To: Angshuman Dasgupta Cc: Ken Menzel , Subject: RE: Microsoft uses FreeBSD In-Reply-To: <20010619204051.A5697@yahoo.com> Message-ID: <20010619101453.I17959-100000@awww.jeah.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Tue, 19 Jun 2001, Angshuman Dasgupta wrote: > ... but the link is broken - possibly because the service is available > only to subscribers. it would be real nice if people didn't put this > kind of stuff (as it is, the traffic's heavy) on this forum. and if > they did - it would be appreciated if the links at least WORK... http://interactive.wsj.com/fr/emailthis/retrieve.cgi?id=SB992819157437237260.djm does work. Take your happy pill. Chris Byrnes JEAH Communications, LLC To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Jun 19 8:46:41 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from leviathan.inethouston.net (216-118-21-146.pdq.net [216.118.21.146]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E555137B403 for ; Tue, 19 Jun 2001 08:46:38 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dwcjr@inethouston.net) Received: by leviathan.inethouston.net (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 9B32D10F411; Tue, 19 Jun 2001 10:46:40 -0500 (CDT) Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2001 10:46:40 -0500 From: "David W. Chapman Jr." To: Chris Byrnes Cc: Angshuman Dasgupta , Ken Menzel , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Microsoft uses FreeBSD Message-ID: <20010619104640.A539@leviathan.inethouston.net> Reply-To: "David W. Chapman Jr." Mail-Followup-To: Chris Byrnes , Angshuman Dasgupta , Ken Menzel , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG References: <20010619204051.A5697@yahoo.com> <20010619101453.I17959-100000@awww.jeah.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20010619101453.I17959-100000@awww.jeah.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.19i X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 4.3-STABLE i386 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Tue, Jun 19, 2001 at 10:16:23AM -0500, Chris Byrnes wrote: > On Tue, 19 Jun 2001, Angshuman Dasgupta wrote: > > > ... but the link is broken - possibly because the service is available > > only to subscribers. it would be real nice if people didn't put this > > kind of stuff (as it is, the traffic's heavy) on this forum. and if > > they did - it would be appreciated if the links at least WORK... > > http://interactive.wsj.com/fr/emailthis/retrieve.cgi?id=SB992819157437237260.djm > does work. Take your happy pill. > > Works here too. -- David W. Chapman Jr. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Jun 19 9: 1:21 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from transbay.net (dns1.transbay.net [209.133.53.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EC9E937B406 for ; Tue, 19 Jun 2001 09:01:12 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from sreese@codysbooks.com) Received: from codysbooks.com (stalwart.codysbooks.com [209.133.54.175]) by transbay.net (8.11.2/8.11.2) with ESMTP id f5JFxj341656; Tue, 19 Jun 2001 08:59:45 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <3B2F7769.DCB93B6D@codysbooks.com> Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2001 09:01:45 -0700 From: Scott Reese Organization: Cody's Books X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.77 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.2.12 i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: ChildsC@bcrail.com Cc: angshumand@yahoo.com, kenm@icarz.com, freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Sorry had to post this References: <01Jun19.080743pdt.119087@gatekeeper.bcrail.com> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------E474B4869483657FEC2F77BE" Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG --------------E474B4869483657FEC2F77BE Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit The link IS broken. Even if you paste the entire URL into the browser, it still says the page is unavailable. -Scott ChildsC@bcrail.com wrote: > The link isn't broken, the line is... > > Chris > > -----Original Message----- > From: Angshuman Dasgupta [mailto:angshumand@yahoo.com] > Sent: Tuesday, June 19, 2001 8:11 AM > To: Ken Menzel > Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org > Subject: Re: Sorry had to post this > > ... but the link is broken - possibly because the service is available only > to subscribers. it would be real nice if people didn't put this kind of > stuff (as it is, the traffic's heavy) on this forum. and if they did - it > would be appreciated if the links at least WORK... > > On Tue, Jun 19, 2001 at 09:14:22AM -0400, Ken Menzel wrote: > > In short, this is a URL to an article describing Microsoft's current > > and past use of FreeBSD dated June 18th, 2001 > > > > http://interactive.wsj.com/fr/emailthis/retrieve.cgi?id=SB992819157437 > > 237260.djm > > > > > > Enjoy! > > ----------------------------------------------------- > > Ken Menzel ICQ# 9325188 > > www.icarz.com kenm@icarz.com > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message > > _________________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message -- Scott Reese Tech Support/Webmaster www.codysbooks.com (510) 845-1609 --------------E474B4869483657FEC2F77BE Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit The link IS broken.  Even if you paste the entire URL into the browser, it still says the page is unavailable.

-Scott
 

ChildsC@bcrail.com wrote:

The link isn't broken, the line is...

Chris

-----Original Message-----
From: Angshuman Dasgupta [mailto:angshumand@yahoo.com]
Sent: Tuesday, June 19, 2001 8:11 AM
To: Ken Menzel
Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org
Subject: Re: Sorry had to post this

... but the link is broken - possibly because the service is available only
to subscribers. it would be real nice if people didn't put this kind of
stuff (as it is, the traffic's heavy) on this forum.  and if they did - it
would be appreciated if the links at least WORK...

On Tue, Jun 19, 2001 at 09:14:22AM -0400, Ken Menzel wrote:
> In short, this is a URL to an article describing Microsoft's current
> and past use of FreeBSD dated June 18th, 2001
>
> http://interactive.wsj.com/fr/emailthis/retrieve.cgi?id=SB992819157437
> 237260.djm
>
>
> Enjoy!
> -----------------------------------------------------
> Ken Menzel  ICQ# 9325188
> www.icarz.com  kenm@icarz.com
>
>
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  --------------E474B4869483657FEC2F77BE-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Jun 19 9: 1:39 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from cosa.uk-legal.net (cosa.uk-legal.net [212.240.216.34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CA31B37B406 for ; Tue, 19 Jun 2001 09:01:34 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from andrew@cosa.uk-legal.net) Received: by cosa.uk-legal.net (Postfix, from userid 1000) id A793D1128C; Tue, 19 Jun 2001 17:01:26 +0100 (BST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by cosa.uk-legal.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9B2461A for ; Tue, 19 Jun 2001 17:01:26 +0100 (BST) Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2001 17:01:26 +0100 (BST) From: Andrew Tulloch To: stable@freebsd.org Subject: XFree86-4 port Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Has anyone had xf86cfg from XFree86 4.1.0 built from the ports run? I've tried two differrent machines and it just core dumps with signal 4. Thanks Andrew To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Jun 19 9: 4:49 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from leviathan.inethouston.net (216-118-21-146.pdq.net [216.118.21.146]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0430037B401 for ; Tue, 19 Jun 2001 09:04:47 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dwcjr@inethouston.net) Received: by leviathan.inethouston.net (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 2138F10F411; Tue, 19 Jun 2001 11:04:48 -0500 (CDT) Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2001 11:04:48 -0500 From: "David W. Chapman Jr." To: Scott Reese Cc: ChildsC@bcrail.com, angshumand@yahoo.com, kenm@icarz.com, freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Sorry had to post this Message-ID: <20010619110448.C539@leviathan.inethouston.net> Reply-To: "David W. Chapman Jr." Mail-Followup-To: Scott Reese , ChildsC@bcrail.com, angshumand@yahoo.com, kenm@icarz.com, freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG References: <01Jun19.080743pdt.119087@gatekeeper.bcrail.com> <3B2F7769.DCB93B6D@codysbooks.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <3B2F7769.DCB93B6D@codysbooks.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.19i X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 4.3-STABLE i386 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Tue, Jun 19, 2001 at 09:01:45AM -0700, Scott Reese wrote: > The link IS broken. Even if you paste the entire URL into the browser, it > still says the page is unavailable. > Your setup is broken as I stated before it works, stop posting on this thread. -- David W. Chapman Jr. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Jun 19 9: 6: 8 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from transbay.net (dns1.transbay.net [209.133.53.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1B79337B401 for ; Tue, 19 Jun 2001 09:06:04 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from sreese@codysbooks.com) Received: from codysbooks.com (stalwart.codysbooks.com [209.133.54.175]) by transbay.net (8.11.2/8.11.2) with ESMTP id f5JG65342097 for ; Tue, 19 Jun 2001 09:06:05 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <3B2F78E5.E7CBCC04@codysbooks.com> Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2001 09:08:05 -0700 From: Scott Reese Organization: Cody's Books X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.77 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.2.12 i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Microsoft uses FreeBSD References: <20010619204051.A5697@yahoo.com> <20010619101453.I17959-100000@awww.jeah.net> <20010619104640.A539@leviathan.inethouston.net> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------AFCCEE7EE54568F5A9C6ED5F" Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG --------------AFCCEE7EE54568F5A9C6ED5F Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Yup, this one works.... "David W. Chapman Jr." wrote: > On Tue, Jun 19, 2001 at 10:16:23AM -0500, Chris Byrnes wrote: > > On Tue, 19 Jun 2001, Angshuman Dasgupta wrote: > > > > > ... but the link is broken - possibly because the service is available > > > only to subscribers. it would be real nice if people didn't put this > > > kind of stuff (as it is, the traffic's heavy) on this forum. and if > > > they did - it would be appreciated if the links at least WORK... > > > > http://interactive.wsj.com/fr/emailthis/retrieve.cgi?id=SB992819157437237260.djm > > does work. Take your happy pill. > > > > > Works here too. > -- > David W. Chapman Jr. > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message -- Scott Reese Tech Support/Webmaster www.codysbooks.com (510) 845-1609 --------------AFCCEE7EE54568F5A9C6ED5F Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Yup, this one works....
 

"David W. Chapman Jr." wrote:

On Tue, Jun 19, 2001 at 10:16:23AM -0500, Chris Byrnes wrote:
> On Tue, 19 Jun 2001, Angshuman Dasgupta wrote:
>
> > ... but the link is broken - possibly because the service is available
> > only to subscribers. it would be real nice if people didn't put this
> > kind of stuff (as it is, the traffic's heavy) on this forum.  and if
> > they did - it would be appreciated if the links at least WORK...
>
> http://interactive.wsj.com/fr/emailthis/retrieve.cgi?id=SB992819157437237260.djm
> does work.  Take your happy pill.
>
>
Works here too.
--
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  --------------AFCCEE7EE54568F5A9C6ED5F-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Jun 19 9: 6:17 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from thehousleys.net (frenchknot.ne.mediaone.net [24.147.224.201]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 79CDD37B420 for ; Tue, 19 Jun 2001 09:06:11 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jim@thehousleys.net) Received: (from root@localhost) by thehousleys.net (8.11.3/8.11.2) id f5JG5xF66786; Tue, 19 Jun 2001 12:05:59 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from jim@thehousleys.net) Received: from thehousleys.net (baby.int.thehousleys.net [192.168.0.24]) (authenticated) by thehousleys.net (8.11.3/8.11.3) with ESMTP id f5JG5vr66778; Tue, 19 Jun 2001 12:05:57 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from jim@thehousleys.net) Message-ID: <3B2F7865.2E4D3514@thehousleys.net> Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2001 12:05:57 -0400 From: James Housley X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.77 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.2.12 i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Scott Reese Cc: ChildsC@bcrail.com, angshumand@yahoo.com, kenm@icarz.com, freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Sorry had to post this References: <01Jun19.080743pdt.119087@gatekeeper.bcrail.com> <3B2F7769.DCB93B6D@codysbooks.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by AMaViS perl-10 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Scott Reese wrote: > > The link IS broken. Even if you paste the entire URL into the > browser, it still says the page is unavailable. > > -Scott This was posted and discussed yesterday. There is a working link in the artile at www.daemonnews.org, and it works and is different then the ones posted here. Jim -- /"\ ASCII Ribbon Campaign . \ / - NO HTML/RTF in e-mail . X - NO Word docs in e-mail . / \ ----------------------------------------------------------------- jeh@FreeBSD.org http://www.FreeBSD.org The Power to Serve jim@TheHousleys.Net http://www.TheHousleys.net --------------------------------------------------------------------- The only reason I'm burning my candle at both ends, is because I haven't figured out how to light the middle yet -- Matthew Fuller To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Jun 19 9:32:51 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from rafiu.psi-domain.co.uk (rafiu.psi-domain.co.uk [212.87.84.199]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 473BC37B406 for ; Tue, 19 Jun 2001 09:32:36 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jamie@psi-domain.co.uk) Received: by rafiu.psi-domain.co.uk (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 84A2F402ECB; Tue, 19 Jun 2001 17:27:54 +0100 (BST) Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2001 17:27:54 +0100 From: Jamie Heckford To: Scott Reese Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Sorry had to post this Message-ID: <20010619172754.B62404@rafiu.psi-domain.co.uk> Reply-To: heckfordj@psi-domain.co.uk References: <01Jun19.080743pdt.119087@gatekeeper.bcrail.com> <3B2F7769.DCB93B6D@codysbooks.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <3B2F7769.DCB93B6D@codysbooks.com>; from sreese@codysbooks.com on Tue, Jun 19, 2001 at 09:01:45AM -0700 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG No it isn't, I can reach it perfectly well. Maybe you should learn how to operate you browser before trying to upset people. Jamie On Tue, Jun 19, 2001 at 09:01:45AM -0700, Scott Reese wrote: > The link IS broken. Even if you paste the entire URL into the browser, it > still says the page is unavailable. > > -Scott > > > ChildsC@bcrail.com wrote: > > > The link isn't broken, the line is... > > > > Chris > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Angshuman Dasgupta [mailto:angshumand@yahoo.com] > > Sent: Tuesday, June 19, 2001 8:11 AM > > To: Ken Menzel > > Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org > > Subject: Re: Sorry had to post this > > > > ... but the link is broken - possibly because the service is available only > > to subscribers. it would be real nice if people didn't put this kind of > > stuff (as it is, the traffic's heavy) on this forum. and if they did - it > > would be appreciated if the links at least WORK... > > > > On Tue, Jun 19, 2001 at 09:14:22AM -0400, Ken Menzel wrote: > > > In short, this is a URL to an article describing Microsoft's current > > > and past use of FreeBSD dated June 18th, 2001 > > > > > > http://interactive.wsj.com/fr/emailthis/retrieve.cgi?id=SB992819157437 > > > 237260.djm > > > > > > > > > Enjoy! > > > ----------------------------------------------------- > > > Ken Menzel ICQ# 9325188 > > > www.icarz.com kenm@icarz.com > > > > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > > > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message > > > > _________________________________________________________ > > Do You Yahoo!? > > Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message > > -- > Scott Reese > Tech Support/Webmaster > www.codysbooks.com > (510) 845-1609 > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Jun 19 10: 5:17 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from ns.yogotech.com (ns.yogotech.com [206.127.123.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7D15837B401 for ; Tue, 19 Jun 2001 10:05:12 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nate@yogotech.com) Received: from nomad.yogotech.com (nomad.yogotech.com [206.127.123.131]) by ns.yogotech.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA18543; Tue, 19 Jun 2001 11:04:52 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from nate@nomad.yogotech.com) Received: (from nate@localhost) by nomad.yogotech.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA15837; Tue, 19 Jun 2001 11:04:48 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from nate) From: Nate Williams MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <15151.34352.111629.822066@nomad.yogotech.com> Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2001 11:04:48 -0600 (MDT) To: Angshuman Dasgupta Cc: Ken Menzel , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Sorry had to post this In-Reply-To: <20010619204051.A5697@yahoo.com> References: <006601c0f8c1$c17327e0$711663cf@icarz.com> <20010619204051.A5697@yahoo.com> X-Mailer: VM 6.75 under 21.1 (patch 12) "Channel Islands" XEmacs Lucid Reply-To: nate@yogotech.com (Nate Williams) Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > ... but the link is broken - possibly because the service is available > only to subscribers. it would be real nice if people didn't put this > kind of stuff (as it is, the traffic's heavy) on this forum. and if > they did - it would be appreciated if the links at least WORK... Actually, the link is broken because of word-wrapping (which unfortunately you're mailer doesn't do). If you paste in the rest of the URL, it works fine. Nate > > > On Tue, Jun 19, 2001 at 09:14:22AM -0400, Ken Menzel wrote: > > In short, this is a URL to an article describing Microsoft's current > > and past use of FreeBSD dated June 18th, 2001 > > > > http://interactive.wsj.com/fr/emailthis/retrieve.cgi?id=SB992819157437 > > 237260.djm > > > > > > Enjoy! > > ----------------------------------------------------- > > Ken Menzel ICQ# 9325188 > > www.icarz.com kenm@icarz.com > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message > > _________________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Jun 19 10:45:35 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from smtp017.mail.yahoo.com (smtp017.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.174.114]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 8B11A37B407 for ; Tue, 19 Jun 2001 10:45:32 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from angshumand@yahoo.com) Received: from unknown (HELO icarus) (164.164.12.42) by smtp.mail.vip.sc5.yahoo.com with SMTP; 19 Jun 2001 17:45:31 -0000 X-Apparently-From: Received: from adg by icarus with local (Exim 3.22 #1 (Debian)) id 15CPby-0002OP-00; Tue, 19 Jun 2001 23:18:22 +0530 Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2001 23:18:22 +0530 To: Nate Williams Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Sorry had to post this Message-ID: <20010619231822.C9168@yahoo.com> References: <006601c0f8c1$c17327e0$711663cf@icarz.com> <20010619204051.A5697@yahoo.com> <15151.34352.111629.822066@nomad.yogotech.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <15151.34352.111629.822066@nomad.yogotech.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.18i From: Angshuman Dasgupta Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG The problem is not with my mailer but with the original poster's mailer. My mailer is mutt + vi which doesn't insert stupid newlines into a line to break it up. On Tue, Jun 19, 2001 at 11:04:48AM -0600, Nate Williams wrote: > > > ... but the link is broken - possibly because the service is available > > only to subscribers. it would be real nice if people didn't put this > > kind of stuff (as it is, the traffic's heavy) on this forum. and if > > they did - it would be appreciated if the links at least WORK... > > Actually, the link is broken because of word-wrapping (which > unfortunately you're mailer doesn't do). If you paste in the rest of > the URL, it works fine. > > > > Nate > > > > > > > On Tue, Jun 19, 2001 at 09:14:22AM -0400, Ken Menzel wrote: > > > In short, this is a URL to an article describing Microsoft's current > > > and past use of FreeBSD dated June 18th, 2001 > > > > > > http://interactive.wsj.com/fr/emailthis/retrieve.cgi?id=SB992819157437 > > > 237260.djm > > > > > > > > > Enjoy! > > > ----------------------------------------------------- > > > Ken Menzel ICQ# 9325188 > > > www.icarz.com kenm@icarz.com > > > > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > > > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message > > > > _________________________________________________________ > > Do You Yahoo!? > > Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Jun 19 10:56: 1 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from point.osg.gov.bc.ca (point.osg.gov.bc.ca [142.32.102.44]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 478E837B406 for ; Tue, 19 Jun 2001 10:55:58 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from Cy.Schubert@uumail.gov.bc.ca) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by point.osg.gov.bc.ca (8.8.7/8.8.8) id KAA25276; Tue, 19 Jun 2001 10:55:45 -0700 Received: from passer.osg.gov.bc.ca(142.32.110.29) via SMTP by point.osg.gov.bc.ca, id smtpda25274; Tue Jun 19 10:55:31 2001 Received: (from uucp@localhost) by passer.osg.gov.bc.ca (8.11.4/8.9.1) id f5JHtQK70405; Tue, 19 Jun 2001 10:55:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: from UNKNOWN(10.1.2.1), claiming to be "cwsys.cwsent.com" via SMTP by passer9.cwsent.com, id smtpda70395; Tue Jun 19 10:54:57 2001 Received: (from uucp@localhost) by cwsys.cwsent.com (8.11.4/8.9.1) id f5JHrVu21817; Tue, 19 Jun 2001 10:53:31 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <200106191753.f5JHrVu21817@cwsys.cwsent.com> Received: from localhost.cwsent.com(127.0.0.1), claiming to be "cwsys" via SMTP by localhost.cwsent.com, id smtpdO21813; Tue Jun 19 10:52:34 2001 X-Mailer: exmh version 2.3.1 01/18/2001 with nmh-1.0.4 Reply-To: Cy Schubert - ITSD Open Systems Group From: Cy Schubert - ITSD Open Systems Group X-Sender: schubert To: Andrew Tulloch Cc: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: XFree86-4 port In-reply-to: Your message of "Tue, 19 Jun 2001 17:01:26 BST." Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2001 10:52:34 -0700 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG In message , Andrew Tulloch writes: > > Has anyone had xf86cfg from XFree86 4.1.0 built from the ports run? I've > tried two differrent machines and it just core dumps with signal 4. No problem under FreeBSD 4.3-REL using an ATI Mach 64 card. Regards, Phone: (250)387-8437 Cy Schubert Fax: (250)387-5766 Team Leader, Sun/Alpha Team Internet: Cy.Schubert@osg.gov.bc.ca Open Systems Group, ITSD, ISTA Province of BC To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Jun 19 11:29:21 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from jazz.wakabaya.net (203.141.147.169.user.at.il24.net [203.141.147.169]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1819537B407; Tue, 19 Jun 2001 11:29:16 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from susumu@wakabaya.net) Received: from jazz.wakabaya.net (susumu-w@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by jazz.wakabaya.net (8.11.3/8.11.3) with ESMTP id f5JISo326042; Wed, 20 Jun 2001 03:28:53 +0900 (JST) (envelope-from susumu@wakabaya.net) Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2001 03:28:49 +0900 Message-ID: <87puc0iase.wl@jazz.wakabaya.net> From: susumu@wakabaya.net To: Erwan Arzur Cc: Erik Nygren , stable@freebsd.org, marcel@freebsd.org, randy@psg.com Subject: Re: Linux-support In-Reply-To: <3B29D3C5.517CC07B@netvalue.com> References: <3B29CAE0.2070203@swip.net> <3B29D3C5.517CC07B@netvalue.com> User-Agent: Wanderlust/2.5.8 (Smooth) SEMI/1.14.3 (Ushinoya) SLIM/1.14.6 (=?ISO-2022-JP?B?GyRCR09ePDFRTiQyPxsoQg==?=) APEL/10.3 Emacs/21.0.103 (i386-unknown-freebsd4.3) MULE/5.0 (=?ISO-2022-JP?B?GyRCOC1MWhsoQg==?=) MIME-Version: 1.0 (generated by SEMI 1.14.3 - "Ushinoya") Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi, From: Erwan Arzur Subject: Re: Linux-support Message-ID: <3B29D3C5.517CC07B@netvalue.com> Date: Fri, 15 Jun 2001 11:22:13 +0200 E> > Oh, this breaks VMwares support for existing partitions of course. E> See PR #ports/28030 E> E> I can't figure out what changed and when using the CVS repo. It's E> related to the disappearance of block devices in the base system (hda & E> hdb are block devices under Linux) Maybe the breakeage is occur 2001-05-31. (src/sys/dev/ata/ata-disk.c,v 1.60.2.13 2001/05/31 15:20:34 sos Exp $) commit log says MFC: remove the wd compat device support. (I'm vmware+rawdisk user too :( ) -- WAKABAYASHI Susumu To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Jun 19 11:48:53 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from malkavian.org (malkavian.org [206.136.132.23]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 853D037B406 for ; Tue, 19 Jun 2001 11:48:47 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from rbw@myplace.org) Received: (from rbw@localhost) by malkavian.org (8.11.3/8.11.1) id f5JImar16510 for freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.org; Tue, 19 Jun 2001 14:48:36 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from rbw@myplace.org) Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2001 11:48:36 -0700 From: "brian j. peterson" To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.org Subject: hw.ata.tags, tuning(7), and IBM 60GXP drives (ATTN: Matt Dillon?) Message-ID: <20010619114836.E70285@malkavian.org> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i X-URL: http://rbw.myplace.org/ Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG the tuning(7) manpage states that IBM DPTA and DTLA drives support the hw.ata.tags feature. it also recommends against purchasing such drives because of quality control concerns. has anyone had a chance to look at the 60GXP(*) drives and confirm both their support for hw.ata.tags and their quality (or lack thereof)? * - note that IBM has changed their hard drive model naming conventions http://www.storage.ibm.com/techsup/hddtech/modnum.htm thanks, brian -- --===-----=======-----------=============-----------------=================== | rbw aka bjp | god's final message to his creation: | | rbw@myplace.org | we apologize for the inconvenience. | ===================-----------------=============-----------=======-----===-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Jun 19 11:56:27 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from odin.ac.hmc.edu (Odin.AC.HMC.Edu [134.173.32.75]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9AF6537B403 for ; Tue, 19 Jun 2001 11:56:24 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from brdavis@odin.ac.hmc.edu) Received: (from brdavis@localhost) by odin.ac.hmc.edu (8.11.0/8.11.0) id f5JIuD209630; Tue, 19 Jun 2001 11:56:13 -0700 Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2001 11:56:13 -0700 From: Brooks Davis To: "brian j. peterson" Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: hw.ata.tags, tuning(7), and IBM 60GXP drives (ATTN: Matt Dillon?) Message-ID: <20010619115613.A8971@Odin.AC.HMC.Edu> References: <20010619114836.E70285@malkavian.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-md5; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="cWoXeonUoKmBZSoM" Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <20010619114836.E70285@malkavian.org>; from rbw@myplace.org on Tue, Jun 19, 2001 at 11:48:36AM -0700 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG --cWoXeonUoKmBZSoM Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Tue, Jun 19, 2001 at 11:48:36AM -0700, brian j. peterson wrote: > the tuning(7) manpage states that IBM DPTA and DTLA drives support the > hw.ata.tags feature. it also recommends against purchasing such drives > because of quality control concerns. has anyone had a chance to look at > the 60GXP(*) drives and confirm both their support for hw.ata.tags and > their quality (or lack thereof)? >=20 > * - note that IBM has changed their hard drive model naming conventions > http://www.storage.ibm.com/techsup/hddtech/modnum.htm I've been talking to someone at iXsystem.net (the hardware side of what used to be BSDi) and they say taged queuing should work and that quality seems to be good, unlike the 75GXPs. IBM says the 60GXPs are substantialy improved from the 75GXPs and that they should avoid the quality problems. Since I'm asking for about 80 units and they currently have free on-site support, they must be reasionably confident since I doubt they really want someone visiting me once or twice a week to replace bad disks. ;-) -- Brooks --=20 Any statement of the form "X is the one, true Y" is FALSE. PGP fingerprint 655D 519C 26A7 82E7 2529 9BF0 5D8E 8BE9 F238 1AD4 --cWoXeonUoKmBZSoM Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.4 (GNU/Linux) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE7L6BMXY6L6fI4GtQRAty8AKDmITzGAtaI0GvaspM3yXQGneux7ACgl48B vmL4k8YGFKEQVOLgHZvW6iI= =481G -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --cWoXeonUoKmBZSoM-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Jun 19 12:26:46 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from core.usrlib.org (CC2-861.charter-stl.com [24.217.115.99]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4F3C837B403 for ; Tue, 19 Jun 2001 12:26:43 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ajh3@core.usrlib.org) Received: by core.usrlib.org (Postfix, from userid 1001) id D4EADA859; Tue, 19 Jun 2001 14:25:16 -0500 (CDT) Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2001 14:25:16 -0500 From: Andrew Hesford To: Angshuman Dasgupta Cc: Nate Williams , freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Sorry had to post this Message-ID: <20010619142516.A16045@core.usrlib.org> References: <006601c0f8c1$c17327e0$711663cf@icarz.com> <20010619204051.A5697@yahoo.com> <15151.34352.111629.822066@nomad.yogotech.com> <20010619231822.C9168@yahoo.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <20010619231822.C9168@yahoo.com>; from angshumand@yahoo.com on Tue, Jun 19, 2001 at 11:18:22PM +0530 X-Loop: Andrew Hesford Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Tue, Jun 19, 2001 at 11:18:22PM +0530, Angshuman Dasgupta wrote: > The problem is not with my mailer but with the original poster's mailer. My mailer is mutt + vi which doesn't insert stupid newlines into a line to break it up. If your mailer doesn't break lines up, then you do have a problem. It is bad email form to keep messages as one big line. The problem is that recipients, with clients like mutt or pine, will insert a break at the character that touches the end of the line, rather than go about it intelligently. Then you might wind up with lines that look like such: My mailler is mutt + vi whic +h doesn't insert newlines i +nto a line to break it up. It is th sender who is responsible for breaking messages into an orderly block of text, not the recipient. And newlines used for this purpose aren't "stupid," they are necessary to preserve the sanity of email, and its readers' good moods. As you will see above, mutt also chokes on your unbroken line, because it puts a reply arrow at the beginning of the line only. If you have color enabled, you will see the first line of your reply text is green, but the second is not. Certainly it is easy to make out what is what, but this is not the case in long messages. It makes for rough reading. If you use vim with mutt, you can set the vim arguments to be + -c "set textwidth=72" -c "set wrap" and it will wrap characters with the generally accepted standard 72-column width. This will help maintain your good reputation on mailing lists like this. There are many (myself included) who simply ignore unwrapped messages, because reply text becomes a nightmare. Yours is the only exception I've made in a number of months. -- Andrew Hesford ajh3@usrlib.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Jun 19 12:53:28 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from snoopy.gwr.com (radio.artsfac.csuohio.edu [137.148.206.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9D43D37B401 for ; Tue, 19 Jun 2001 12:53:25 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from welch@igillc.com) Received: from rune (IDENT:root@snoopy.gwr.com [127.0.0.1]) by snoopy.gwr.com (8.11.0/8.11.0) with SMTP id f5JJfQq04393; Tue, 19 Jun 2001 15:41:26 -0400 Reply-To: From: "Arun Welch" To: "Angshuman Dasgupta" , "Nate Williams" Cc: Subject: RE: Sorry had to post this Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2001 14:53:19 -0500 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) In-reply-to: <20010619231822.C9168@yahoo.com> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Importance: Normal Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG >=20 > The problem is not with my mailer but with the original poster's=20 > mailer. My mailer is mutt + vi which doesn't insert stupid=20 > newlines into a line to break it up.=20 >=20 Then your mailer isn't RFC-compliant... From 2822: There are two limits that this standard places on the number of characters in a line. Each line of characters MUST be no more than 998 characters, and SHOULD be no more than 78 characters, excluding the CRLF. Yes, that's a SHOULD instead of a MUST for 78 characters, but ignoring = SHOULD's is still a bad thing. ...arun To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Jun 19 13: 2:37 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from citadel.simphost.com (citadel.simphost.com [216.253.163.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9CAE437B401; Tue, 19 Jun 2001 13:02:30 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jslivko@jmslivko.org) Received: by citadel.simphost.com (Postfix, from userid 1022) id 7CEAC24D05; Tue, 19 Jun 2001 16:06:27 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by citadel.simphost.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 68F8420F04; Tue, 19 Jun 2001 16:06:27 -0400 (EDT) Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2001 16:06:18 -0400 (EDT) From: "Jonathan M. Slivko" X-X-Sender: To: Ryan Cc: , Subject: Re: Network Strangeness In-Reply-To: <003b01c0f8fa$9b424d60$1e448d18@elysia.ca> Message-ID: <20010619160520.L15531-100000@citadel.simphost.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 [cc'd to freebsd-stable] Can you find out when you last CVSupped, as well as him? It might be a bad CVSup. -- Jonathan _____________________________________________ Jonathan M. Slivko Technical Support, Black Lotus Communications Server Administrator, AsylumNet IRC Network web: http://www.jmslivko.org/ pgp key avail. @ www.jmslivko.org/jslivko.asc - --------------------------------------------- On Tue, 19 Jun 2001, Ryan wrote: > Hello, I've been struggling with a problem for quite some time now. I'm running FreeBSD 4.3-STABLE, and the system is normal except that it will sporadically become unresponsive to the network. The system will drop all connections to it and not return any pings. I've beening running the -STABLE branch on the system for quite some time now and haven't experienced any problems until this one, and since then I've tried network cable changes, network card changes, processor changes, motherboard changes, and I've even tried using the system with OpenBSD instead, but the same problem persists. > Recently I was hanging out in the #FreeBSDhelp channel on EFnet and ran into someone experience the same problem (s_79@yahoo.com). The only similarites I can see between our configurations is that we're both running 4.3-STABLE on i586 systems. Here are the full specs on the two systems with the problem: > > Pentium 100 (i586), 32MB RAM, 1.7GB HDD > Ethernet card: SOHO NDC 10/100 (dc) > OS: FreeBSD 4.3-RELEASE > > Pentium 120 (i586), 48MB RAM, 4.2GB HDD > Ethernet card: Magitronix NE2000 Compatible (ed) > OS: FreeBSD 4.3-STABLE > > Hopefully someone out there has an idea of whats going wrong. Thanks in advance for any suggestions that could be made. > > Ryan > ryan@western.wave.ca > > and > > 'Fate' > s_79@yahoo.com > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: PGP 6.5.8 Comment: Made with pgp4pine 1.75 iQA/AwUBOy+wwVbZ0BAEOk7TEQKKJACghhGOuqqEf6xSba2WNYl8WtpEEREAmwYc tTGhbIgaR+px3fGWDRDZlqa1 =DRSK -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Jun 19 13:39:18 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from jim.skynet.lt (jim.skynet.lt [212.122.68.65]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 9A73737B401 for ; Tue, 19 Jun 2001 13:39:12 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dd@skynet.lt) Received: (qmail 31686 invoked from network); 19 Jun 2001 20:39:02 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO asteroid) (10.1.0.110) by jim.skynet.vl with SMTP; 19 Jun 2001 20:39:02 -0000 From: "Dmitry Demyanchuk" To: "FreeBSD-Stable" Subject: Problem with mrouted Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2001 22:39:00 +0200 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Importance: Normal Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi ! I'm running a huge freebsd vlan router (130 IP vlan interfaces at 130 subnets). Everything is running fine so far exept multicast routing. The problem is: mrouted accepts only 15 ip-interfaces by default. After some modifications to the source it accepts 32 ip-interfaces but no more. As the result, users only from accepted subnet's can join multicast groups. any ideas? suggestions? thanx Dmitry Demyanchuk System Administrator Skynet, Ltd. email: admin@skynet.lt To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Jun 19 13:56:32 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from femail12.sdc1.sfba.home.com (femail12.sdc1.sfba.home.com [24.0.95.108]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B72A237B403 for ; Tue, 19 Jun 2001 13:56:30 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from hpk104@home.com) Received: from maverick.home.com ([24.40.51.35]) by femail12.sdc1.sfba.home.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.20 201-229-121-120-20010223) with ESMTP id <20010619205501.KJGA16002.femail12.sdc1.sfba.home.com@maverick.home.com>; Tue, 19 Jun 2001 13:55:01 -0700 Message-Id: <5.1.0.14.2.20010619165541.00abac60@mail.bens1.pa.home.com> X-Sender: hpk104@mail.bens1.pa.home.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2001 16:56:04 -0400 To: Andrew Tulloch From: Harris Kauffman Subject: Re: XFree86-4 port Cc: stable@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Segfaults for me, too. But xf86setup stlll works perfectly fine. At 12:01 PM 6/19/2001, you wrote: >Has anyone had xf86cfg from XFree86 4.1.0 built from the ports run? >I've >tried two differrent machines and it just core dumps with signal 4. > >Thanks >Andrew > > >To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org >with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Jun 19 14:25:39 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from gsaix2.cc.GaSoU.EDU (gsaix2.cc.GaSoU.edu [141.165.1.57]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A50BA37B406 for ; Tue, 19 Jun 2001 14:25:36 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gsi22419@gsaix2.cc.GaSoU.EDU) Received: from localhost (gsi22419@localhost) by gsaix2.cc.GaSoU.EDU (8.9.2/8.9.2) with SMTP id RAA38294; Tue, 19 Jun 2001 17:25:07 -0400 Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2001 17:25:05 -0400 (EDT) From: Scott Dodson To: Scott Reese Cc: ChildsC@bcrail.com, angshumand@yahoo.com, kenm@icarz.com, freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Sorry had to post this In-Reply-To: <3B2F7769.DCB93B6D@codysbooks.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Exactly how many people need to verify that the link isn't broke in order for you to believe that it's working? Take a vacation... -- scott On Tue, 19 Jun 2001, Scott Reese wrote: > The link IS broken. Even if you paste the entire URL into the browser, it > still says the page is unavailable. > > -Scott > > > ChildsC@bcrail.com wrote: > > > The link isn't broken, the line is... > > > > Chris > > > > On Tue, Jun 19, 2001 at 09:14:22AM -0400, Ken Menzel wrote: > > > In short, this is a URL to an article describing Microsoft's current > > > and past use of FreeBSD dated June 18th, 2001 > > > > > > http://interactive.wsj.com/fr/emailthis/retrieve.cgi?id=SB992819157437 > > > 237260.djm To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Jun 19 14:44:45 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from transbay.net (dns1.transbay.net [209.133.53.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9645937B401 for ; Tue, 19 Jun 2001 14:44:43 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from sreese@codysbooks.com) Received: from codysbooks.com (stalwart.codysbooks.com [209.133.54.175]) by transbay.net (8.11.2/8.11.2) with ESMTP id f5JLii164798 for ; Tue, 19 Jun 2001 14:44:44 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <3B2FC847.DCCA0B6F@codysbooks.com> Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2001 14:46:47 -0700 From: Scott Reese Organization: Cody's Books X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.77 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.2.12 i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Sorry had to post this References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Exactly how many times to people have berate/harangue/harass/insult me about this? I've already received numerous messages, the problem is resolved and this is the end of it so PLEASE let this die. I didn't know that part of the charter of this list was to harass folks when they (or their software) are being a bit dim. So, here it is again: My browser's messed up. I'm sorry I even mentioned it! As a side note: I've been following this list for months and I am disappointed in the proliferance of rude/crass behavior towards those who are not "gurus." Give us a break, we're trying to learn here! Please? If you don't have anything constructive to say, please just delete the message and move on. There's no need for this abuse. -Scott Scott Dodson wrote: > Exactly how many people need to verify that the link isn't broke in order > for you to believe that it's working? > > Take a vacation... > > -- > scott To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Jun 19 15: 1:34 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from smtp3.libero.it (smtp3.libero.it [193.70.192.53]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8FF2037B403 for ; Tue, 19 Jun 2001 15:01:31 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from flag@libero.it) Received: from libero.it (151.33.116.209) by smtp3.libero.it (5.5.025) id 3AE9822800C0D2E2 for freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG; Wed, 20 Jun 2001 00:01:29 +0200 Received: (from flag@localhost) by libero.it (8.11.3/8.11.3) id f5JM2ww01346 for freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG; Wed, 20 Jun 2001 00:02:58 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from flag) Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2001 00:02:57 +0200 From: Paolo Pisati To: FreeBSD_Stable Subject: Rebuilding docs Message-ID: <20010620000257.A1275@newluxor.skynet.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i X-Useless-Header: Look ma, it's a # sign! X-Operating-System: FreeBSD newluxor.skynet.org 4.3-STABLE FreeBSD 4.3-STABLE Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG How is possible to obtain informations about the current status of development in an easy way? Before the introduction of DOCSng (if I remember the name correctly), it took me 1 minute to see the difference between the release and the stable branch: I had only to see the RELNOTES.TXT file and all was clear. But now? How can I rebuild the documentation after every 'make update', or is it possibile to generate automatically a file like the old RELNOTEX after every update (using the new docs skeleton)? I hope that you understand me =P -- Paolo Visit the Italian FreeBSD User Group Site: www.gufi.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Jun 19 15:13:13 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from dmz.harmonic.co.il (moon.harmonic.co.il [192.116.140.65]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3255D37B401 for ; Tue, 19 Jun 2001 15:13:10 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from roman@harmonic.co.il) Received: (from http@localhost) by dmz.harmonic.co.il (8.11.1/8.11.1) id f5JMF8E28841; Wed, 20 Jun 2001 01:15:08 +0300 (IDT) (envelope-from roman@harmonic.co.il) To: Jason Watkins Subject: Re: atrun errors Message-ID: <992988908.3b2fceec2b65b@webmail.harmonic.co.il> Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2001 01:15:08 +0300 (IDT) From: Roman Shterenzon Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org References: In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit User-Agent: IMP/PHP IMAP webmail program 2.2.5 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Perhaps it's uses the old syntax to cron, which was: Quoting Jason Watkins : > Since rebuilding apache to 3.20 I've been getting the follow error > mailings > from cron: > > Date: Mon, 18 Jun 2001 16:45:00 -0700 (PDT) > From: root (Cron Daemon) > To: root > Subject: Cron root /usr/libexec/atrun > X-Cron-Env: > X-Cron-Env: > X-Cron-Env: > X-Cron-Env: > X-Cron-Env: > > root: not found > > I also have been getting similar mailings from newsyslog > > any ideas? > > jason > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message > --Roman Shterenzon, UNIX System Administrator and Consultant [ Xpert UNIX Systems Ltd., Herzlia, Israel. Tel: +972-9-9522361 ] To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Jun 19 15:29:47 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from freeway.dcfinc.com (cx74889-a.phnx3.az.home.com [24.1.193.157]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2638837B401 for ; Tue, 19 Jun 2001 15:29:41 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from chad@freeway.dcfinc.com) Received: (from chad@localhost) by freeway.dcfinc.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA29408; Tue, 19 Jun 2001 15:28:58 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from chad) Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2001 15:28:58 -0700 From: "Chad R. Larson" To: Andrew Hesford Cc: Angshuman Dasgupta , Nate Williams , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Sorry had to post this Message-ID: <20010619152858.C29289@freeway.dcfinc.com> References: <006601c0f8c1$c17327e0$711663cf@icarz.com> <20010619204051.A5697@yahoo.com> <15151.34352.111629.822066@nomad.yogotech.com> <20010619231822.C9168@yahoo.com> <20010619142516.A16045@core.usrlib.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <20010619142516.A16045@core.usrlib.org>; from ajh3@usrlib.org on Tue, Jun 19, 2001 at 02:25:16PM -0500 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > If you use vim with mutt, you can set the vim arguments to be > > + -c "set textwidth=72" -c "set wrap" > > and it will wrap characters with the generally accepted standard > 72-column width. And, since this is a FreeBSD mailing list, and he =said= he used vi: set wraplen=68 for the same effect. -crl -- Chad R. Larson (CRL15) 602-953-1392 Brother, can you paradigm? chad@dcfinc.com chad@larsons.org larson1@home.com DCF, Inc. - 14623 North 49th Place, Scottsdale, Arizona 85254-2207 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Jun 19 16: 8:15 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from ms2.mail2000.com.tw (ms2.mail2000.com.tw [211.72.252.247]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id AD5F837B403 for ; Tue, 19 Jun 2001 16:08:13 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from swhsiao@mail2000.com.tw) Received: By OpenMail Mailer;Wed, 20 Jun 2001 07:08:09 +0800 (CST) From: "=?big5?B?SHNpYW8sIFNodW4td2Vu?=" Reply-To: swhsiao@mail2000.com.tw Subject: =?big5?B?c3Vic2NyaWJl?= Message-ID: <992992089.63643.swhsiao@mail2000.com.tw> To: "" Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2001 07:08:09 +0800 (CST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=big5 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Jun 19 16:32:50 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from awww.jeah.net (awww.jeah.net [216.111.239.130]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9D24437B403 for ; Tue, 19 Jun 2001 16:32:46 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from chris@jeah.net) Received: from localhost (chris@localhost) by awww.jeah.net (8.11.3/8.11.3) with ESMTP id f5JNWPD01209 for ; Tue, 19 Jun 2001 18:32:25 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from chris@jeah.net) Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2001 18:32:24 -0500 (CDT) From: Chris Byrnes To: Subject: Domain WHOIS/Sendmail Message-ID: <20010619183043.I1165-100000@awww.jeah.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG As you probably know, a lot of mentally retarded individuals are doing things like registering MY.MICROSOFT.COMPANY.IS.BETTER.THAN.YOURPENIS.ORG as a nameserver in an effort to make it difficult to whois microsoft.com. Now sendmail doesn't like it. Jun 19 18:27:14 awww sendmail[1105]: f5JNREJ01105: ruleset=check_mail, arg1=, relay=[216.21.228.13], reject=501 5.1.8 ... Domain of sender address Domain.Manager.System@web14.nyat.register.com does not exist Jun 19 18:27:14 awww sendmail[1105]: f5JNREJ01105: from=, size=2495, class=0, nrcpts=0, proto=ESMTP, daemon=MTA, relay=[216.21.228.13] awww# whois register.com Whois Server Version 1.3 Domain names in the .com, .net, and .org domains can now be registered with many different competing registrars. Go to http://www.internic.net for detailed information. REGISTER.COM.S.AT.DOMAINGURU.COM REGISTER.COM To single out one record, look it up with "xxx", where xxx is one of the of the records displayed above. If the records are the same, look them up with "=xxx" to receive a full display for each record. >>> Last update of whois database: Tue, 19 Jun 2001 02:12:04 EDT <<< The Registry database contains ONLY .COM, .NET, .ORG, .EDU domains and Registrars. awww# Does anyone have a fix? Chris Byrnes JEAH Communications, LLC To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Jun 19 16:53:56 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from server-1.visp.net (server-1.visp.net [208.8.184.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C2B7437B401 for ; Tue, 19 Jun 2001 16:53:53 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kgasso@visp.net) Received: from blort (blort.visp.net [208.3.136.2]) by server-1.visp.net (8.11.0/8.11.0) with SMTP id f5JNrfi20194; Tue, 19 Jun 2001 16:53:41 -0700 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" From: Kameron Gasso Reply-To: kgasso@visp.net Organization: VISP Technologies To: Chris Byrnes Subject: Re: Domain WHOIS/Sendmail Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2001 16:53:47 -0700 X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.2] References: <20010619183043.I1165-100000@awww.jeah.net> In-Reply-To: <20010619183043.I1165-100000@awww.jeah.net> Cc: stable@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <01061916534702.01039@blort> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Tuesday 19 June 2001 04:32, you wrote: *snip* > Now sendmail doesn't like it. > > Jun 19 18:27:14 awww sendmail[1105]: f5JNREJ01105: ruleset=check_mail, > arg1=, > relay=[216.21.228.13], reject=501 5.1.8 > ... Domain of sender > address Domain.Manager.System@web14.nyat.register.com does not exist *snip* blort% host web14.nyat.register.com Host not found. Simple as that.. Nothing to do with the WHOIS database spamming weenies from what I can tell, your sendmail is just configured to not accept mail with a FROM address that doesn't resolve (or at least have an MX record, which this return address does not). Seems register.com's at fault here, but you could make sendmail accept such messages (and increase the likelyhood of receiving spam or forged mail just a tad). IIRC, in sendmail.cf under the check_mail section, comment out the line: R $* $#error $@ 5.1.8 $: "501 Domain of sender address " $&f " does not exist" or you could install Postfix ;) Regards, Kameron To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Jun 19 16:55:51 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from peitho.fxp.org (peitho.fxp.org [209.26.95.40]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C52F737B401 for ; Tue, 19 Jun 2001 16:55:43 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from cdf.lists@fxp.org) Received: by peitho.fxp.org (Postfix, from userid 1501) id 0B92513614; Tue, 19 Jun 2001 19:55:42 -0400 (EDT) Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2001 19:55:42 -0400 From: Chris Faulhaber To: Chris Byrnes Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Domain WHOIS/Sendmail Message-ID: <20010619195542.A75421@peitho.fxp.org> Mail-Followup-To: Chris Faulhaber , Chris Byrnes , freebsd-stable@freebsd.org References: <20010619183043.I1165-100000@awww.jeah.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-md5; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="2fHTh5uZTiUOsy+g" Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <20010619183043.I1165-100000@awww.jeah.net>; from chris@jeah.net on Tue, Jun 19, 2001 at 06:32:24PM -0500 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG --2fHTh5uZTiUOsy+g Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Tue, Jun 19, 2001 at 06:32:24PM -0500, Chris Byrnes wrote: >=20 > As you probably know, a lot of mentally retarded individuals are doing > things like registering > MY.MICROSOFT.COMPANY.IS.BETTER.THAN.YOURPENIS.ORG as a nameserver in an > effort to make it difficult to whois microsoft.com. >=20 > Now sendmail doesn't like it. >=20 > Jun 19 18:27:14 awww sendmail[1105]: f5JNREJ01105: ruleset=3Dcheck_mail, > arg1=3D, > relay=3D[216.21.228.13], reject=3D501 5.1.8 > ... Domain of sender > address Domain.Manager.System@web14.nyat.register.com does not exist > Jun 19 18:27:14 awww sendmail[1105]: f5JNREJ01105: > from=3D, size=3D2495, clas= s=3D0, > nrcpts=3D0, proto=3DESMTP, daemon=3DMTA, relay=3D[216.21.228.13] >=20 Their hostname is invalid: $ host web14.nyat.register.com Host not found. $=20 > awww# whois register.com >=20 Why would sendmail care about whois? --=20 Chris D. Faulhaber - jedgar@fxp.org - jedgar@FreeBSD.org -------------------------------------------------------- FreeBSD: The Power To Serve - http://www.FreeBSD.org --2fHTh5uZTiUOsy+g Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (FreeBSD) Comment: FreeBSD: The Power To Serve iEYEARECAAYFAjsv5n4ACgkQObaG4P6BelBnsQCeIO+zD9Xcwhw/ln4sKyQE5eQk e9oAnjEr9CYzgLnb1aZ716uegxnN1cO6 =VNCR -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --2fHTh5uZTiUOsy+g-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Jun 19 16:58: 7 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from awww.jeah.net (awww.jeah.net [216.111.239.130]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1F50837B401 for ; Tue, 19 Jun 2001 16:58:04 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from chris@jeah.net) Received: from localhost (chris@localhost) by awww.jeah.net (8.11.3/8.11.3) with ESMTP id f5JNve801778; Tue, 19 Jun 2001 18:57:41 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from chris@jeah.net) Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2001 18:57:40 -0500 (CDT) From: Chris Byrnes To: Cc: Subject: Re: Domain WHOIS/Sendmail In-Reply-To: <01061916534702.01039@blort> Message-ID: <20010619185722.E1762-100000@awww.jeah.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Oops. LOL. Thanks, everyone, for your help! Chris Byrnes JEAH Communications, LLC On Tue, 19 Jun 2001, Kameron Gasso wrote: > On Tuesday 19 June 2001 04:32, you wrote: > *snip* > > Now sendmail doesn't like it. > > > > Jun 19 18:27:14 awww sendmail[1105]: f5JNREJ01105: ruleset=check_mail, > > arg1=, > > relay=[216.21.228.13], reject=501 5.1.8 > > ... Domain of sender > > address Domain.Manager.System@web14.nyat.register.com does not exist > *snip* > > blort% host web14.nyat.register.com > Host not found. > > Simple as that.. > > Nothing to do with the WHOIS database spamming weenies from what I can tell, > your sendmail is just configured to not accept mail with a FROM address that > doesn't resolve (or at least have an MX record, which this return address > does not). Seems register.com's at fault here, but you could make sendmail > accept such messages (and increase the likelyhood of receiving spam or forged > mail just a tad). IIRC, in sendmail.cf under the check_mail section, comment > out the line: > > R $* $#error $@ 5.1.8 $: "501 Domain of sender address " > $&f " does not exist" > > > or you could install Postfix ;) > > > Regards, > > Kameron > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Jun 19 17: 2: 4 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from awww.jeah.net (awww.jeah.net [216.111.239.130]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CB1A037B401 for ; Tue, 19 Jun 2001 17:02:01 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from chris@jeah.net) Received: from localhost (chris@localhost) by awww.jeah.net (8.11.3/8.11.3) with ESMTP id f5K01ch01827; Tue, 19 Jun 2001 19:01:38 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from chris@jeah.net) Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2001 19:01:37 -0500 (CDT) From: Chris Byrnes To: Chris Faulhaber Cc: Subject: Re: Domain WHOIS/Sendmail In-Reply-To: <20010619195542.A75421@peitho.fxp.org> Message-ID: <20010619185838.C1762-100000@awww.jeah.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Tue, 19 Jun 2001, Chris Faulhaber wrote: > > awww# whois register.com > > > > Why would sendmail care about whois? ... Domain of sender address Domain.Manager.System@web14.nyat.register.com does not exist The terminology made me think that it meant the actual domain of the host didn't exist, which led me to introduce the whois nameserver theory. Oops! Chris Byrnes JEAH Communications, LLC To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Jun 19 17: 4:32 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from kalaid.f2f.com.ua (kalaid.f2f.com.ua [62.149.0.33]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 023CA37B403 for ; Tue, 19 Jun 2001 17:04:23 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from never@uic-in.net) Received: from mail.uic-in.net (root@[212.35.189.4]) by kalaid.f2f.com.ua (8.11.3/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f5K06II24627 for ; Wed, 20 Jun 2001 03:06:18 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from never@uic-in.net) Received: from never.uic-in.net (never.uic-in.net [212.35.189.13]) by mail.uic-in.net (8.11.3/8.11.3) with ESMTP id f5JFEJ932147; Tue, 19 Jun 2001 18:14:23 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from never@uic-in.net) Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2001 18:14:19 +0300 From: Nevermind X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.51) Business Reply-To: Nevermind Organization: UIC Group X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <9426155469.20010619181419@uic-in.net> To: Stephen Montgomery-Smith Cc: Rasputin , stable@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re[2]: rolling back the ports tree In-Reply-To: <3B2F63E7.9683C5F1@math.missouri.edu> References: <20010619152931.A73968@dogma.freebsd-uk.eu.org> <3B2F63E7.9683C5F1@math.missouri.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG SMS> An easy way is to use CTM. Just collect a delta dated a few months ago SMS> from ftp://ns3.saargate.de/pub/FreeBSD/CTM/ports-cur Or use usual cvs (not cvsup) with -D switch. SMS> Rasputin wrote: >> does anyone know how to roll back the ports tree to a particular date? -- Nevermind mailto:never@uic-in.net To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Jun 19 17: 8:22 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from hotmail.com (law2-f129.hotmail.com [216.32.181.129]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8BA0F37B406 for ; Tue, 19 Jun 2001 17:08:20 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from lelinuxien@hotmail.com) Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Tue, 19 Jun 2001 17:08:20 -0700 Received: from 64.229.243.86 by lw2fd.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Wed, 20 Jun 2001 00:08:20 GMT X-Originating-IP: [64.229.243.86] From: "Le Linuxien" To: stable@freebsd.org Subject: No CPU info.. Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2001 00:08:20 -0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 20 Jun 2001 00:08:20.0324 (UTC) FILETIME=[1D0EA240:01C0F91D] Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi, I'm using FreeBSD 4.3 with the Generic kernel and I can't see my CPU info... it's detected while the boot... but when I'm running TOP, IDLE and TOTAL CPU usage are at 0,0%... all CPU stats are at 0,0%...even for processes....With gkrellm it's the same thing..nothing appears for the cpu info... I'm using an Asus A7V motherboard with patch 1005. Thanks Dominic Blais _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Jun 19 17:56:25 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from wantadilla.lemis.com (wantadilla.lemis.com [192.109.197.80]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F337837B401 for ; Tue, 19 Jun 2001 17:56:20 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from grog@lemis.com) Received: by wantadilla.lemis.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id D2B7E6ACBC; Wed, 20 Jun 2001 10:26:08 +0930 (CST) Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2001 10:26:08 +0930 From: Greg Lehey To: Le Linuxien Cc: stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: No CPU info.. Message-ID: <20010620102608.H86129@wantadilla.lemis.com> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: ; from lelinuxien@hotmail.com on Wed, Jun 20, 2001 at 12:08:20AM -0000 Organization: The FreeBSD Project Phone: +61-8-8388-8286 Fax: +61-8-8388-8725 Mobile: +61-418-838-708 WWW-Home-Page: http://www.FreeBSD.org/ X-PGP-Fingerprint: 6B 7B C3 8C 61 CD 54 AF 13 24 52 F8 6D A4 95 EF Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Wednesday, 20 June 2001 at 0:08:20 -0000, Le Linuxien wrote: > Hi, > > I'm using FreeBSD 4.3 with the Generic kernel and I can't see my CPU info... > it's detected while the boot... but when I'm running TOP, IDLE and TOTAL CPU > usage are at 0,0%... all CPU stats are at 0,0%...even for processes....With > gkrellm it's the same thing..nothing appears for the cpu info... I suspect you have a mismatch between the kernel and userland. Greg -- See complete headers for address and phone numbers To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Jun 19 18:46:53 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from bazooka.unixfreak.org (bazooka.unixfreak.org [63.198.170.138]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 07E7E37B401; Tue, 19 Jun 2001 18:46:51 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dima@unixfreak.org) Received: from hornet.unixfreak.org (hornet [63.198.170.140]) by bazooka.unixfreak.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B4B833E31; Tue, 19 Jun 2001 18:46:50 -0700 (PDT) To: stable@freebsd.org Cc: phk@freebsd.org Subject: Removing broken DEVFS from -stable? Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2001 18:46:50 -0700 From: Dima Dorfman Message-Id: <20010620014650.B4B833E31@bazooka.unixfreak.org> Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi folks, As I'm sure most people on this list know, the [broken] DEVFS in -stable has no relation to the [working] one in -current. However, since the one in -current does work and is widely in use, some -stable users have tried to use the one in -stable, which obviously doesn't work. Would anyone object to removing the broken one from -stable? All it's good for is foot-shooting and taking up space on user's hard drives (this isn't a big deal, but the download might be). Thanks, Dima Dorfman dima@unixfreak.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Jun 19 19:57:21 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mail.vei.net (ns.vei.net [64.89.101.29]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ACB6E37B406 for ; Tue, 19 Jun 2001 19:57:18 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from scz73@yahoo.com) Received: from seamud.dynu.com [63.39.51.86] by mail.vei.net with ESMTP (SMTPD32-6.06) id A1027850288; Tue, 19 Jun 2001 22:57:06 -0400 Received: from sam (sam.sam.com [10.0.0.2]) by seamud.dynu.com (8.11.4/8.11.4) with SMTP id f5K2eMM00536 for ; Tue, 19 Jun 2001 19:40:22 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <00c801c0f934$aff4b740$0200000a@sam> Reply-To: "Sam C. Zamarripa" From: "Sam C. Zamarripa" To: Subject: Weird Traceroute/Ping Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2001 19:57:04 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Tonight I recompiled my kernel for maxusers 64 instead of the default 32 to see how it affected network buffers on my internal LAN. I have a 56K dialup PPP connection. I've never gotten traceroute/ping times under 95ms. Well now after this reboot..traceroutes to most everywhere make it seem like I have a T1. I don't know if this is a bug or not, but it's very strange. But everything seems to work normal despite this. traceroute to cvsup7.freebsd.org (129.250.31.140), 30 hops max, 40 byte packets 3 115.ATM1-0-0.HR1.SEA1.ALTER.NET (152.63.104.26) 1.452 ms 4 101.ATM3-0.XR1.SEA1.ALTER.NET (146.188.200.2) 1.619 ms 5 0.so-0-0-0.XL1.SEA1.ALTER.NET (152.63.106.225) 1.865 ms 6 POS6.BR1.SEA1.ALTER.NET (146.188.200.73) 1.602 ms 7 204.255.169.26 (204.255.169.26) 1.909 ms 8 p16-0-0-0.r04.sttlwa01.us.bb.verio.net (129.250.5.27) 1.580 ms 9 cvsup7.freebsd.org (129.250.31.140) 1.454 ms Pretty fast for 56K huh? :) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Jun 19 20:30:44 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from leviathan.inethouston.net (216-118-21-146.pdq.net [216.118.21.146]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4455F37B401 for ; Tue, 19 Jun 2001 20:30:41 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dwcjr@inethouston.net) Received: by leviathan.inethouston.net (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 5729C10F411; Tue, 19 Jun 2001 22:30:45 -0500 (CDT) Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2001 22:30:45 -0500 From: "David W. Chapman Jr." To: "Sam C. Zamarripa" Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Weird Traceroute/Ping Message-ID: <20010619223045.J6448@leviathan.inethouston.net> Reply-To: "David W. Chapman Jr." Mail-Followup-To: "Sam C. Zamarripa" , freebsd-stable@freebsd.org References: <00c801c0f934$aff4b740$0200000a@sam> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <00c801c0f934$aff4b740$0200000a@sam> User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.19i X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 4.3-STABLE i386 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Tue, Jun 19, 2001 at 07:57:04PM -0700, Sam C. Zamarripa wrote: > Tonight I recompiled my kernel for maxusers 64 instead of the default 32 to > see how it affected network buffers on my internal LAN. I have a 56K dialup > PPP connection. I've never gotten traceroute/ping times under 95ms. Well now > after this reboot..traceroutes to most everywhere make it seem like I have a > T1. I don't know if this is a bug or not, but it's very strange. But > everything seems to work normal despite this. > > traceroute to cvsup7.freebsd.org (129.250.31.140), 30 hops max, 40 byte > packets > 3 115.ATM1-0-0.HR1.SEA1.ALTER.NET (152.63.104.26) 1.452 ms > 4 101.ATM3-0.XR1.SEA1.ALTER.NET (146.188.200.2) 1.619 ms > 5 0.so-0-0-0.XL1.SEA1.ALTER.NET (152.63.106.225) 1.865 ms > 6 POS6.BR1.SEA1.ALTER.NET (146.188.200.73) 1.602 ms > 7 204.255.169.26 (204.255.169.26) 1.909 ms > 8 p16-0-0-0.r04.sttlwa01.us.bb.verio.net (129.250.5.27) 1.580 ms > 9 cvsup7.freebsd.org (129.250.31.140) 1.454 ms > > Pretty fast for 56K huh? :) > Pretty fast for a T3 :) -- David W. Chapman Jr. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Jun 19 20:39:48 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from sbtx.tmn.ru (sbtx.tmn.ru [212.76.160.49]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6F39A37B403 for ; Tue, 19 Jun 2001 20:39:44 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from serg@sbtx.tmn.ru) Received: from sv.tech.sibitex.tmn.ru (sv.tech.sibitex.tmn.ru [212.76.160.59]) by sbtx.tmn.ru (8.11.3/8.11.3) with ESMTP id f5K3dfI16932; Wed, 20 Jun 2001 09:39:41 +0600 (YEKST) (envelope-from serg@sbtx.tmn.ru) Received: (from serg@localhost) by sv.tech.sibitex.tmn.ru (8.11.4/8.11.4) id f5K3den64340; Wed, 20 Jun 2001 09:39:40 +0600 (YEKST) (envelope-from serg) Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2001 09:39:39 +0600 From: "Sergey N. Voronkov" To: Ling Ling Cc: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: syslog server error message Message-ID: <20010620093939.A64282@sv.tech.sibitex.tmn.ru> References: <003e01c0f8c8$5b193460$25904bca@ewebasia.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <003e01c0f8c8$5b193460$25904bca@ewebasia.com>; from llchan@eweb-asia.com on Tue, Jun 19, 2001 at 10:01:33PM +0800 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Tue, Jun 19, 2001 at 10:01:33PM +0800, Ling Ling wrote: Hi! Please, wrap your lines to 72 columns next time > I am configuring my FreeBSD 4.2-REL as the syslogd server in my local LAN, to collect messaegs from Cisco router, RedHat 71., and Solaris 8 server. As usual, I redirect all my syslog messages to the FreeBSD machine. Things went fine with the RedHat machine, but Cisoc router and Solaris gave some error messages as follows: > > cvthname(202.1.2.3) > validate: dgram from IP 202.1.2.3, port 48937, name abc.com; > rejected in rule 0 due to port mismatch. > rejected in rule 1 due to port mismatch. > > I don't have any idea in this because I do not have a firewall installed in that machine. Try somthing like this: syslogd -a '202.1.2.0/24:*' Or put parameter for your needing into /etc/rc.conf -> syslogd_flags. Bye, Serg N. Voronkov. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Jun 19 21:12:21 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from winston.osd.bsdi.com (adsl-64-173-15-98.dsl.sntc01.pacbell.net [64.173.15.98]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5D5D237B403; Tue, 19 Jun 2001 21:12:13 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jkh@osd.bsdi.com) Received: from localhost (jkh@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by winston.osd.bsdi.com (8.11.4/8.11.3) with ESMTP id f5K4BBt95483; Tue, 19 Jun 2001 21:11:16 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jkh@osd.bsdi.com) To: dima@unixfreak.org Cc: stable@FreeBSD.ORG, phk@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Removing broken DEVFS from -stable? In-Reply-To: <20010620014650.B4B833E31@bazooka.unixfreak.org> References: <20010620014650.B4B833E31@bazooka.unixfreak.org> X-Mailer: Mew version 1.94.1 on Emacs 20.7 / Mule 4.0 (HANANOEN) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <20010619211111K.jkh@osd.bsdi.com> Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2001 21:11:11 -0700 From: Jordan Hubbard X-Dispatcher: imput version 20000228(IM140) Lines: 29 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG It certainly sounds like a good idea to me. If nothing else, it will make the devfs issue much more clearly a -current only thing. - Jordan From: Dima Dorfman Subject: Removing broken DEVFS from -stable? Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2001 18:46:50 -0700 > Hi folks, > > As I'm sure most people on this list know, the [broken] DEVFS in > -stable has no relation to the [working] one in -current. However, > since the one in -current does work and is widely in use, some -stable > users have tried to use the one in -stable, which obviously doesn't > work. > > Would anyone object to removing the broken one from -stable? All it's > good for is foot-shooting and taking up space on user's hard drives > (this isn't a big deal, but the download might be). > > Thanks, > > Dima Dorfman > dima@unixfreak.org > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Jun 19 21:14:24 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from no-nonsense.org (kbl-mdb539.zeelandnet.nl [62.238.2.31]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 06FD137B406 for ; Tue, 19 Jun 2001 21:14:21 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from petercv@zeelandnet.nl) Received: from peter (peter.home [10.0.0.2]) by no-nonsense.org (8.11.3/8.11.3) with SMTP id f5K4EFp01857 for ; Wed, 20 Jun 2001 06:14:15 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from petercv@zeelandnet.nl) Message-ID: <001701c0f93f$94ae4a40$0200000a@peter> From: "Peter C. Verhage" To: Subject: Memory upgrade Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2001 06:15:03 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2462.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2462.0000 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Yesterday I upgraded my computer, I added an extra 128 MB of memory, what makes it a total of 256 MB. But I noticed the following kernel log messages: > real memory = 268435456 (262144K bytes) > avail memory = 258211840 (252160K bytes) Why is this? And what can be done to make avail memory equal to real memory? Regards, Peter To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Jun 19 21:22: 3 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from relay.butya.kz (butya-gw.butya.kz [212.154.129.94]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1187D37B401 for ; Tue, 19 Jun 2001 21:21:59 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from bp@butya.kz) Received: by relay.butya.kz (Postfix, from userid 1000) id A5AD4287AE; Wed, 20 Jun 2001 11:21:54 +0700 (ALMST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by relay.butya.kz (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8BE06285D1; Wed, 20 Jun 2001 11:21:54 +0700 (ALMST) Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2001 11:21:54 +0700 (ALMST) From: Boris Popov To: land@dnepr.net Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: SMBFS & weird kernel messages In-Reply-To: <20010619145226.A15414@dnepr.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Tue, 19 Jun 2001 land@dnepr.net wrote: > Hi ! > > I compiled kernel with following options to enable smbfs support: > > options NETSMB > options NETSMBCRYPTO > options LIBMCHAIN > options LIBICONV > > Also i'v installed smbfs port. > After firts use of mount_smbfs in dmesg output appeared following lines: One have either to compile an entire SMBFS into kernel (NETSMB* and SMBFS options) or load it as KLD. > When I compiled kernel only with > > options LIBMCHAIN > options LIBICONV > > it panics. > No warnings was issued while "config KERNEL" and "make depend && make && make install". Correct. -- Boris Popov http://www.butya.kz/~bp/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Jun 19 21:26:16 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from dc-mx07.cluster1.charter.net (dc-mx07.cluster0.hsacorp.net [209.225.8.17]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7CA8D37B401 for ; Tue, 19 Jun 2001 21:26:10 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from duhring@charter.net) Received: from [24.217.157.193] (HELO dave) by dc-mx07.cluster1.charter.net (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 3.4.6) with SMTP id 8686987; Wed, 20 Jun 2001 00:32:42 -0400 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" From: Dave Uhring To: "Peter C. Verhage" , Subject: Re: Memory upgrade Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2001 23:26:08 -0500 X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.2] References: <001701c0f93f$94ae4a40$0200000a@peter> In-Reply-To: <001701c0f93f$94ae4a40$0200000a@peter> MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <01061923260800.25203@dave> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Tuesday 19 June 2001 23:15, Peter C. Verhage wrote: > Yesterday I upgraded my computer, I added an extra 128 MB of memory, what > makes it a total of 256 MB. > > But I noticed the following kernel log messages: > > real memory = 268435456 (262144K bytes) > > avail memory = 258211840 (252160K bytes) > > Why is this? And what can be done to make avail memory equal to real > memory? > > Regards, > > Peter The kernel takes some and reports what is left. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Jun 19 21:31:22 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from cain.gsoft.com.au (genesi.lnk.telstra.net [139.130.136.161]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C86BB37B401 for ; Tue, 19 Jun 2001 21:30:57 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from doconnor@gsoft.com.au) Received: from cain.gsoft.com.au (root@spare0.gsoft.com.au [203.38.152.114]) by cain.gsoft.com.au (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA15095; Wed, 20 Jun 2001 14:00:29 +0930 (CST) (envelope-from doconnor@gsoft.com.au) Message-ID: X-Mailer: XFMail 1.4.7 on FreeBSD X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <01061923260800.25203@dave> Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2001 14:00:29 +0930 (CST) From: "Daniel O'Connor" To: Dave Uhring Subject: Re: Memory upgrade Cc: stable@FreeBSD.org, "Peter C. Verhage" Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On 20-Jun-2001 Dave Uhring wrote: > > > real memory = 268435456 (262144K bytes) > > > avail memory = 258211840 (252160K bytes) > The kernel takes some and reports what is left. 10meg? That's a big ass kernel :) --- Daniel O'Connor software and network engineer for Genesis Software - http://www.gsoft.com.au "The nice thing about standards is that there are so many of them to choose from." -- Andrew Tanenbaum To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Jun 19 22: 2:48 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from vimfuego.saarinen.org (saarinen.org [203.79.82.14]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 551B737B409 for ; Tue, 19 Jun 2001 22:02:45 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from juha@saarinen.org) Received: from [192.168.1.10] (helo=den2) by vimfuego.saarinen.org with esmtp (Exim 3.22 #1 (Red Hack)) id 15Ca7q-0006ha-01; Wed, 20 Jun 2001 17:01:58 +1200 From: "Juha Saarinen" To: "'Daniel O'Connor'" , "'Dave Uhring'" Cc: , "'Peter C. Verhage'" Subject: RE: Memory upgrade Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2001 17:01:55 +1200 Message-ID: <002b01c0f946$20aed6d0$0a01a8c0@den2> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.2627 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG :: 10meg? :: That's a big ass kernel :) Mine's bigger than Cartman! real memory = 805306368 (786432K bytes) avail memory = 780828672 (762528K bytes) ;-) -- Juha To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Jun 19 22:21:55 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from hotmail.com (f132.law15.hotmail.com [64.4.23.132]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BE41F37B406 for ; Tue, 19 Jun 2001 22:21:51 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from leeroyzz@hotmail.com) Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Tue, 19 Jun 2001 22:21:51 -0700 Received: from 63.221.138.130 by lw15fd.law15.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Wed, 20 Jun 2001 05:21:51 GMT X-Originating-IP: [63.221.138.130] From: "Klein B" To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.org Subject: FreeBSD4.3-STABLE Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2001 05:21:51 -0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 20 Jun 2001 05:21:51.0613 (UTC) FILETIME=[E9758AD0:01C0F948] Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi, i'm trying to upgrade FreeBSD4.3-RELEASE to FreeBSD4.3-STABLE. is right what i'm suppose to do ? pkg_add -f \ftp://ftp.FreeBSD.org/pub/FreeBSD/development/CVSup/cvsupit.tgz cd /usr/obj chflags -R noschg * rm -rf * script /var/tmp/mw.out make TARGET exit cd /usr/src make -x -DVARIABLE target make -DNOPROFILE=true target make buildworld cd /usr/src make buildkernel make installkernel /usr/obj/usr/src/usr.sbin/config/config KERNELNAME make installworld make -DNOPROFILE=true buildworld make -DNOPROFILE=true installworld cp -Rp /etc /etc.old mkdir /var/tmp/root cd /usr/src/etc make DESTDIR=/var/tmp/root distrib-dirs distribution cd /var/tmp/root find -d . -type d | xargs rmdir 2>/dev/null diff /etc/shells /var/tmp/root/etc/shells mkdir /var/tmp/root-19980214 cd /usr/src/etc make DESTDIR=/var/tmp/root-19980214 \ distrib-dirs distribution cd /var/tmp diff -r root-19980214 root-19980221 rm -rf /var/tmp/root-19980214 mkdir /var/tmp/root-`date "+%Y%m%d"` cp /var/tmp/root/dev/MAKEDEV /dev cd /dev ls -l | awk '{print $1, $2, $3, $4, $5, $6, $NF}' > /var/tmp/dev.out sh MAKEDEV all diff /var/tmp/dev.out /var/tmp/dev2.out sh MAKEDEV sd0s1 cd /usr/src/release/sysinstall make all install fastboot Thanks. _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Jun 19 22:33:38 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from critter.freebsd.dk (critter.freebsd.dk [212.242.86.163]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7C99C37B40F for ; Tue, 19 Jun 2001 22:33:25 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from phk@critter.freebsd.dk) Received: from critter (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by critter.freebsd.dk (8.11.3/8.11.3) with ESMTP id f5K5XIr03420; Wed, 20 Jun 2001 07:33:18 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from phk@critter.freebsd.dk) To: Jordan Hubbard Cc: dima@unixfreak.org, stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Removing broken DEVFS from -stable? In-Reply-To: Your message of "Tue, 19 Jun 2001 21:11:11 PDT." <20010619211111K.jkh@osd.bsdi.com> Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2001 07:33:18 +0200 Message-ID: <3418.993015198@critter> From: Poul-Henning Kamp Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I'm all for it, but a couple of people complained that they were using it when I fiddled the knobs for it. Poul-Henning In message <20010619211111K.jkh@osd.bsdi.com>, Jordan Hubbard writes: >It certainly sounds like a good idea to me. If nothing else, it will >make the devfs issue much more clearly a -current only thing. > >- Jordan > >From: Dima Dorfman >Subject: Removing broken DEVFS from -stable? >Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2001 18:46:50 -0700 > >> Hi folks, >> >> As I'm sure most people on this list know, the [broken] DEVFS in >> -stable has no relation to the [working] one in -current. However, >> since the one in -current does work and is widely in use, some -stable >> users have tried to use the one in -stable, which obviously doesn't >> work. >> >> Would anyone object to removing the broken one from -stable? All it's >> good for is foot-shooting and taking up space on user's hard drives >> (this isn't a big deal, but the download might be). >> >> Thanks, >> >> Dima Dorfman >> dima@unixfreak.org >> >> >> To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org >> with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message > -- Poul-Henning Kamp | UNIX since Zilog Zeus 3.20 phk@FreeBSD.ORG | TCP/IP since RFC 956 FreeBSD committer | BSD since 4.3-tahoe Never attribute to malice what can adequately be explained by incompetence. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Jun 19 22:51:25 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from clmboh1-smtp3.columbus.rr.com (clmboh1-smtp3.columbus.rr.com [65.24.0.112]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1166037B403 for ; Tue, 19 Jun 2001 22:51:21 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from wmoran@iowna.com) Received: from iowna.com (dhcp065-024-023-038.columbus.rr.com [65.24.23.38]) by clmboh1-smtp3.columbus.rr.com (8.11.2/8.11.2) with ESMTP id f5K5lvs28954; Wed, 20 Jun 2001 01:47:57 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <3B30399D.1B1C7E9@iowna.com> Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2001 01:50:21 -0400 From: Bill Moran X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.76 [en] (X11; U; FreeBSD 4.3-STABLE i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Juha Saarinen Cc: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Memory upgrade References: <002b01c0f946$20aed6d0$0a01a8c0@den2> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Juha Saarinen wrote: > > :: 10meg? > :: That's a big ass kernel :) > > Mine's bigger than Cartman! > > real memory = 805306368 (786432K bytes) > avail memory = 780828672 (762528K bytes) I'm going to take a guess ... Kernel needs enough memory to fit all the code in, plus enough for certain structures like the vm tables. The more memory you have, the more is needed to map the existing memory. Am I right? -Bill -- If a bird in the hand is worth two in the bush, then what can I get for two hands in the bush? To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Jun 19 23: 4: 8 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from k0r3.reflektor.cz (k0r3.reflektor.cz [212.24.129.54]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id D9C1937B401 for ; Tue, 19 Jun 2001 23:04:02 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from cynic@mail.cz) Received: (qmail 19633 invoked by uid 202); 20 Jun 2001 06:04:00 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO zvahlav.mail.cz) (212.24.143.100) by k0r3.reflektor.cz with SMTP; 20 Jun 2001 06:04:00 -0000 Message-Id: <5.1.0.14.2.20010620075301.040d2ca8@mail.cz> X-Sender: cynic@mail.cz X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2001 08:12:13 +0200 To: "Klein B" , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.org From: Cynic Subject: Re: FreeBSD4.3-STABLE In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG It appears that you haven't actually _read_ the page in the handbook. you _should_ _read_ it. for example $ make -x -DVARIABLE target doesn't mean you should copy that verbatim: >In this example, -x is an option that you would pass to make(1). >See the make(1) manual page for an example of the options you >can pass. > >-DVARIABLE passes a variable to the Makefile. The behavior of >the Makefile is controlled by these variables. These are the >same variables as are set in /etc/make.conf, and this provides >another way of setting them. > >target tells make(1) what you want to do. Each Makefile defines >a number of different ``targets'', and your choice of target >determines what happens. (copied from right below the $ make -x -DVARIABLE target line) of course you must update your sources first. cvsup provides one way this can be done. however, I suggest you practise this rather nontrivial (for a newcomer) stuff by building a kernel from the RELEASE sources, i. e. without updating. The process is described here: http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/kernelconfig-building.html and can be summarized into this: # cd /usr/src/sys/i386/conf # cp GENERIC MYKERNEL ( edit MYKERNEL to fit your needs) # /usr/sbin/config MYKERNEL # cd ../../compile/MYKERNEL # make depend # make # make install optionally, or if something goes wrong, you can try to just rebuild GENERIC to see if your system is in a good shape. BTW, lots of good info is in /usr/src/sys/i386/conf/LINT At 07:21 20.6. 2001, Klein B wrote the following: -------------------------------------------------------------- >Hi, > >i'm trying to upgrade FreeBSD4.3-RELEASE to FreeBSD4.3-STABLE. > >is right what i'm suppose to do ? > >pkg_add -f \ftp://ftp.FreeBSD.org/pub/FreeBSD/development/CVSup/cvsupit.tgz > >cd /usr/obj >chflags -R noschg * >rm -rf * > >script /var/tmp/mw.out >make TARGET >exit > >cd /usr/src >make -x -DVARIABLE target >make -DNOPROFILE=true target > >make buildworld > >cd /usr/src >make buildkernel >make installkernel > >/usr/obj/usr/src/usr.sbin/config/config KERNELNAME >make installworld > >make -DNOPROFILE=true buildworld >make -DNOPROFILE=true installworld > >cp -Rp /etc /etc.old >mkdir /var/tmp/root >cd /usr/src/etc >make DESTDIR=/var/tmp/root distrib-dirs distribution > >cd /var/tmp/root >find -d . -type d | xargs rmdir 2>/dev/null > >diff /etc/shells /var/tmp/root/etc/shells > >mkdir /var/tmp/root-19980214 >cd /usr/src/etc >make DESTDIR=/var/tmp/root-19980214 \ >distrib-dirs distribution > > >cd /var/tmp >diff -r root-19980214 root-19980221 > >rm -rf /var/tmp/root-19980214 >mkdir /var/tmp/root-`date "+%Y%m%d"` > >cp /var/tmp/root/dev/MAKEDEV /dev >cd /dev >ls -l | awk '{print $1, $2, $3, $4, $5, $6, $NF}' > /var/tmp/dev.out > >sh MAKEDEV all >diff /var/tmp/dev.out /var/tmp/dev2.out >sh MAKEDEV sd0s1 > >cd /usr/src/release/sysinstall >make all install > >fastboot > >Thanks. > > > > > >_________________________________________________________________ >Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com > > >To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org >with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message ------end of quote------ cynic@mail.cz ------------- And the eyes of them both were opened and they saw that their files were world readable and writable, so they chmoded 600 their files. - Book of Installation chapt 3 sec 7 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Jun 20 0:27:42 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from dt051n37.san.rr.com (dt051n37.san.rr.com [204.210.32.55]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EBCE637B401 for ; Wed, 20 Jun 2001 00:27:39 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from DougB@DougBarton.net) Received: from DougBarton.net (master [10.0.0.2]) by dt051n37.san.rr.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id AAA46943 for ; Wed, 20 Jun 2001 00:27:39 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from DougB@DougBarton.net) Message-ID: <3B30506A.28952430@DougBarton.net> Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2001 00:27:38 -0700 From: Doug Barton Organization: Triborough Bridge & Tunnel Authority X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.77 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.2.12 i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: *** Mini Head's up: mergemaster spurious warning fix Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Gang, Thanks for your patience while I dug into the problem related to the spurious warning generated by mergemaster when installing a file, and my apologies for any inconvenience it may have caused you. The error was a result of my testing only what mm was actually doing on RELENG_4, not what it _said_ about what it was doing. :) In any case, a fix has been committed to -current, and following standard practice will be MFC'ed after it's had a chance to be tested. The change that caused the spurious warning is a result of "copy" being the new default in -current for install instead of "move." Since this is not the case in RELENG_4 (and hopefully never will be) a more robust solution than the simple one I used originally had to be created. You can find the patch at: http://people.freebsd.org/~dougb/mm-fix-rm-bug.diff If you try that patch and have any problems with it, please let me know. That patch was generated from the RELENG_4 branch so it should apply cleanly to version 1.6.2.7. Barring any reports of problems that's what I'll MFC. HTH, Doug -- If you're never wrong, you're not trying hard enough. Do YOU Yahoo!? To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Jun 20 1:12: 5 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from cain.gsoft.com.au (genesi.lnk.telstra.net [139.130.136.161]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E1DCD37B401 for ; Wed, 20 Jun 2001 01:11:51 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from doconnor@gsoft.com.au) Received: from cain.gsoft.com.au (root@spare0.gsoft.com.au [203.38.152.114]) by cain.gsoft.com.au (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id RAA18111; Wed, 20 Jun 2001 17:41:30 +0930 (CST) (envelope-from doconnor@gsoft.com.au) Message-ID: X-Mailer: XFMail 1.4.7 on FreeBSD X-Priority: 3 (Normal) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="_=XFMail.1.4.7.FreeBSD:20010620174130:813=_" In-Reply-To: <3B30591A.81647FF1@polito.it> Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2001 17:41:30 +0930 (CST) From: "Daniel O'Connor" To: riccardo@athena.polito.it Subject: RE: FreeBSD 4.3 on Inspiron 8000 Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG This message is in MIME format --_=XFMail.1.4.7.FreeBSD:20010620174130:813=_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii [post redirected to -stable where it belongs] On 20-Jun-2001 Riccardo Scandariato wrote: > Did someone succesfully install FreeBSD 4.3 on Dell Inspiron 8000? Yep. > I experienced the following problems: > no CD > no XFree > no PCCARD > no Sound Works for me :) > My machine: > Inspiron 8000 > > Video: ATI Rage Mobility M4 (+32 M) > Audio: ESS Maestro > CD: Thoshiba DVD-ROM SD-C2402 > Net: Xircon CardBus 10/100 + Modem 56K (RBEM56) > > Thanks in advance for your help (I'm a newbie of fBSD) The DVD from is a known issue I think. My kernel config and XF86 config file are attached. My /boot/loader.conf contains.. userconfig_script_load="YES" snd_maestro3_load="YES" usb_load="YES" ums_load="YES" autoboot_delay="2" --- Daniel O'Connor software and network engineer for Genesis Software - http://www.gsoft.com.au "The nice thing about standards is that there are so many of them to choose from." -- Andrew Tanenbaum --_=XFMail.1.4.7.FreeBSD:20010620174130:813=_ Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="CHOWDER" Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 Content-Description: CHOWDER Content-Type: application/octet-stream; name=CHOWDER; SizeOnDisk=2960 bWFjaGluZQkJaTM4NgpjcHUJCUk2ODZfQ1BVCmlkZW50CQlDSE9XREVSCm1heHVzZXJzCTY0Cgoj bWFrZW9wdGlvbnMJREVCVUc9LWcJCSNCdWlsZCBrZXJuZWwgd2l0aCBnZGIoMSkgZGVidWcgc3lt Ym9scwoKb3B0aW9ucwkJSU5DTFVERV9DT05GSUdfRklMRQpvcHRpb25zCQlVU0VSX0xEVApvcHRp b25zCQlEREIKCm9wdGlvbnMgCUlORVQJCQkjSW50ZXJORVR3b3JraW5nCm9wdGlvbnMgCUZGUwkJ CSNCZXJrZWxleSBGYXN0IEZpbGVzeXN0ZW0Kb3B0aW9ucyAJRkZTX1JPT1QJCSNGRlMgdXNhYmxl IGFzIHJvb3QgZGV2aWNlIFtrZWVwIHRoaXMhXQpvcHRpb25zIAlTT0ZUVVBEQVRFUwkJI0VuYWJs ZSBGRlMgc29mdCB1cGRhdGVzIHN1cHBvcnQKb3B0aW9ucyAJQ09NUEFUXzQzCQkjQ29tcGF0aWJs ZSB3aXRoIEJTRCA0LjMgW0tFRVAgVEhJUyFdCm9wdGlvbnMgCVVDT05TT0xFCQkjQWxsb3cgdXNl cnMgdG8gZ3JhYiB0aGUgY29uc29sZQpvcHRpb25zIAlVU0VSQ09ORklHCQkjYm9vdCAtYyBlZGl0 b3IKb3B0aW9ucyAJVklTVUFMX1VTRVJDT05GSUcJI3Zpc3VhbCBib290IC1jIGVkaXRvcgpvcHRp b25zIAlLVFJBQ0UJCQkja3RyYWNlKDEpIHN1cHBvcnQKb3B0aW9ucyAJU1lTVlNITQkJCSNTWVNW LXN0eWxlIHNoYXJlZCBtZW1vcnkKb3B0aW9ucyAJU1lTVk1TRwkJCSNTWVNWLXN0eWxlIG1lc3Nh Z2UgcXVldWVzCm9wdGlvbnMgCVNZU1ZTRU0JCQkjU1lTVi1zdHlsZSBzZW1hcGhvcmVzCm9wdGlv bnMgCVAxMDAzXzFCCQkjUG9zaXggUDEwMDNfMUIgcmVhbC10aW1lIGV4dGVuc2lvbnMKb3B0aW9u cyAJX0tQT1NJWF9QUklPUklUWV9TQ0hFRFVMSU5HCgpkZXZpY2UJCWlzYQpkZXZpY2UJCXBjaQoK IyBGbG9wcHkgZHJpdmVzCmRldmljZQkJZmRjMAlhdCBpc2E/IHBvcnQgSU9fRkQxIGlycSA2IGRy cSAyCmRldmljZQkJZmQwCWF0IGZkYzAgZHJpdmUgMAoKIyBBVEEgYW5kIEFUQVBJIGRldmljZXMK ZGV2aWNlCQlhdGEwCWF0IGlzYT8gcG9ydCBJT19XRDEgaXJxIDE0CmRldmljZQkJYXRhMQlhdCBp c2E/IHBvcnQgSU9fV0QyIGlycSAxNQpkZXZpY2UJCWF0YQpkZXZpY2UJCWF0YWRpc2sJCQkjIEFU QSBkaXNrIGRyaXZlcwpkZXZpY2UJCWF0YXBpY2QJCQkjIEFUQVBJIENEUk9NIGRyaXZlcwpvcHRp b25zIAlBVEFfU1RBVElDX0lECQkjIFN0YXRpYyBkZXZpY2UgbnVtYmVyaW5nCgojIGF0a2JkYzAg Y29udHJvbHMgYm90aCB0aGUga2V5Ym9hcmQgYW5kIHRoZSBQUy8yIG1vdXNlCmRldmljZQkJYXRr YmRjMAlhdCBpc2E/IHBvcnQgSU9fS0JECmRldmljZQkJYXRrYmQwCWF0IGF0a2JkYz8gaXJxIDEg ZmxhZ3MgMHgxCmRldmljZQkJcHNtMAlhdCBhdGtiZGM/IGlycSAxMgoKb3B0aW9ucwkJUFNNX0hP T0tSRVNVTUUJCSMgaG9vayB0aGUgc3lzdGVtIHJlc3VtZSBldmVudCwgdXNlZnVsCgkJCQkJIyBm b3Igc29tZSBsYXB0b3BzCm9wdGlvbnMJCVBTTV9SRVNFVEFGVEVSU1VTUEVORCAgICMgcmVzZXQg dGhlIGRldmljZSBhdCB0aGUgcmVzdW1lIGV2ZW50CgpkZXZpY2UJCXZnYTAJYXQgaXNhPwoKIyBz cGxhc2ggc2NyZWVuL3NjcmVlbiBzYXZlcgpwc2V1ZG8tZGV2aWNlCXNwbGFzaAoKIyBzeXNjb25z IGlzIHRoZSBkZWZhdWx0IGNvbnNvbGUgZHJpdmVyLCByZXNlbWJsaW5nIGFuIFNDTyBjb25zb2xl CmRldmljZQkJc2MwCWF0IGlzYT8gZmxhZ3MgMHgxMDAKCiMgRmxvYXRpbmcgcG9pbnQgc3VwcG9y dCAtIGRvIG5vdCBkaXNhYmxlLgpkZXZpY2UJCW5weDAJYXQgbmV4dXM/IHBvcnQgSU9fTlBYIGly cSAxMwoKIyBQb3dlciBtYW5hZ2VtZW50IHN1cHBvcnQgKHNlZSBMSU5UIGZvciBtb3JlIG9wdGlv bnMpCmRldmljZQkJYXBtMCAgICBhdCBuZXh1cz8gZmxhZ3MgMHgyMCAjIEFkdmFuY2VkIFBvd2Vy IE1hbmFnZW1lbnQKCiMgUENDQVJEIChQQ01DSUEpIHN1cHBvcnQKZGV2aWNlCQljYXJkCmRldmlj ZQkJcGNpYzAJYXQgaXNhPyBpcnEgMTAgcG9ydCAweDNlMCBpb21lbSAweGQwMDAwCgojIFNlcmlh bCAoQ09NKSBwb3J0cwpkZXZpY2UJCXNpbzAJYXQgaXNhPyBwb3J0IElPX0NPTTEgZmxhZ3MgMHgx MCBpcnEgNApkZXZpY2UJCXNpbzEJYXQgaXNhPyBwb3J0IElPX0NPTTIgaXJxIDMKCiMgUGFyYWxs ZWwgcG9ydApkZXZpY2UJCXBwYzAJYXQgaXNhPyBpcnEgNwpkZXZpY2UJCXBwYnVzCQkjIFBhcmFs bGVsIHBvcnQgYnVzIChyZXF1aXJlZCkKZGV2aWNlCQlscHQJCSMgUHJpbnRlcgpkZXZpY2UJCXBw aQkJIyBQYXJhbGxlbCBwb3J0IGludGVyZmFjZSBkZXZpY2UKCiNkZXZpY2UJCWZ4cAkJIyBJbnRl bCBFdGhlckV4cHJlc3MgUFJPLzEwMEIgKDgyNTU3LCA4MjU1OCkKCiMgUHNldWRvIGRldmljZXMg LSB0aGUgbnVtYmVyIGluZGljYXRlcyBob3cgbWFueSB1bml0cyB0byBhbGxvY2F0ZS4KcHNldWRv LWRldmljZQlsb29wCQkjIE5ldHdvcmsgbG9vcGJhY2sKcHNldWRvLWRldmljZQlldGhlcgkJIyBF dGhlcm5ldCBzdXBwb3J0CnBzZXVkby1kZXZpY2UJdHVuCQkjIFBhY2tldCB0dW5uZWwuCnBzZXVk by1kZXZpY2UJcHR5CQkjIFBzZXVkby10dHlzICh0ZWxuZXQgZXRjKQpwc2V1ZG8tZGV2aWNlCWJw ZgkJIyBCZXJrZWxleSBwYWNrZXQgZmlsdGVyCnBzZXVkby1kZXZpY2UJc25wCQkjIFNub29wIGRl dmljZQoKZGV2aWNlCQlzbWJ1cwkJIyBCdXMgc3VwcG9ydCwgcmVxdWlyZWQgZm9yIHNtYiBiZWxv dy4KCmRldmljZQkJaW50cG0KZGV2aWNlCQlpY2hzbWIKCmRldmljZQkJc21iCgpkZXZpY2UJCWlp Y2J1cyAgICAgICAgICAjIEJ1cyBzdXBwb3J0LCByZXF1aXJlZCBmb3IgaWMvaWljL2lpY3NtYiBi ZWxvdy4KZGV2aWNlCQlpaWNiYgoKZGV2aWNlCQlpYwpkZXZpY2UJCWlpYwpkZXZpY2UJCWlpY3Nt YiAgICAgICAgICAjIHNtYiBvdmVyIGkyYyBicmlkZ2UKCm9wdGlvbnMJCUlQRklSRVdBTEwKb3B0 aW9ucwkJSVBGSVJFV0FMTF9ERUZBVUxUX1RPX0FDQ0VQVApvcHRpb25zCQlJUERJVkVSVAo= --_=XFMail.1.4.7.FreeBSD:20010620174130:813=_ Content-Disposition: attachment; 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Wed, 20 Jun 2001 03:47:32 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from rsowders@usgs.gov) To: "Antoine Beaupre (LMC)" Cc: Flemming Froekjaer , owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG, stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: No rdump on stable? MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Lotus Notes Release 5.0.7 March 21, 2001 Message-ID: From: "Robert L Sowders" Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2001 03:47:29 -0700 X-MIMETrack: Serialize by Router on gscamnlm03/SERVER/USGS/DOI(Release 5.0.7 |March 21, 2001) at 06/20/2001 03:47:30 AM, Serialize complete at 06/20/2001 03:47:30 AM Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Don't know. the last item mentioned in the PR is a note to Warner to commit some=20 stuff from OpenBSD. Have a look. http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=3D15830 "Antoine Beaupre (LMC)" Sent by: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG 06/19/2001 06:55 AM =20 To: Flemming Froekjaer cc: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: No rdump on stable? I might be way off here, but I think dump might use ssh(1) instead of=20 rsh(1) by default now. Or is it? A. Flemming Froekjaer wrote: > I need some advise on how to do remore dumps. > rdump -0af flemming@tapebox:/dev/nsa0 > It used to work, but then i upgraded to 4.3 Stable (It worked on 4.3 > release) > Now I get this: >=20 > rdump -0af flemming@tapeserver:/dev/nsa0 / > DUMP: Login incorrect. > DUMP: login to tapeserver as flemming failed. >=20 > replacing the username with root gives same resoult. > I'm doing this as root. >=20 > If I do: > rsh -l flemming tapeserver > It prompts me for a password, and let me in. >=20 > In the /etc/hosts.equiv i have listed the server I'm trying to backup. >=20 > What am I doing wrong? Is there another way to acomplish this? >=20 > \Flemming >=20 >=20 >=20 > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message >=20 --=20 Antoine Beaupr=E9 LMC/K TCM team To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Jun 20 5:11:48 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from cage.simianscience.com (cage.simianscience.com [64.7.134.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 24E5037B408 for ; Wed, 20 Jun 2001 05:11:44 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mike@sentex.net) Received: (from root@localhost) by cage.simianscience.com (8.11.4/8.11.2) id f5KCBhT27851; Wed, 20 Jun 2001 08:11:43 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from mike@sentex.net) Received: from chimp (fcage [192.168.0.2]) by cage.simianscience.com (8.11.4/8.11.2av) with ESMTP id f5KCBZA27843; Wed, 20 Jun 2001 08:11:36 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from mike@sentex.net) Message-Id: <4.2.2.20010620080716.02cc6060@192.168.0.12> X-Sender: mdtancsa@192.168.0.12 X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.2 Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2001 08:11:34 -0400 To: Flemming Froekjaer , stable@freebsd.org From: Mike Tancsa Subject: Re: No rdump on stable? In-Reply-To: <3B2E8AF1.86B21BEE@froekjaer.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed X-Virus-Scanned: by AMaViS perl-10 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG At 04:12 PM 6/18/2001 -0700, Flemming Froekjaer wrote: >I need some advise on how to do remore dumps. One way is to use ssh and its safer. (this is in the archives of this list BTW) e.g. ssh-keygen on the machine to be dumped (this is ssh v1) scp .ssh/identity.pub targetuser@targetmachine.where.dump.file.is.example.com:/home/targetuser/.ss h/authorized_keys Then something like /sbin/dump -0uan -f - /usr/adm | gzip -3 | ssh1 -c blowfish targetuser@targetuser.example.com dd of=/home/targetuser/dump-adm-l0.gz dumps it to a file or /sbin/dump -0uan -f - /usr/adm | gzip -3 | ssh1 -c blowfish targetuser@targetuser.example.com dd of=/dev/nrsa0 should dump it to the tape if targetuser has access to the tape drive. ---Mike >rdump -0af flemming@tapebox:/dev/nsa0 >It used to work, but then i upgraded to 4.3 Stable (It worked on 4.3 >release) >Now I get this: > > rdump -0af flemming@tapeserver:/dev/nsa0 / > DUMP: Login incorrect. > DUMP: login to tapeserver as flemming failed. > >replacing the username with root gives same resoult. >I'm doing this as root. > >If I do: >rsh -l flemming tapeserver >It prompts me for a password, and let me in. > >In the /etc/hosts.equiv i have listed the server I'm trying to backup. > >What am I doing wrong? Is there another way to acomplish this? > >\Flemming > > > >To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org >with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message -------------------------------------------------------------------- Mike Tancsa, tel +1 519 651 3400 Network Administration, mike@sentex.net Sentex Communications www.sentex.net Cambridge, Ontario Canada www.sentex.net/mike To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Jun 20 6: 6:50 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from citadel.simphost.com (citadel.simphost.com [216.253.163.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B096937B401; Wed, 20 Jun 2001 06:06:45 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jslivko@jmslivko.org) Received: by citadel.simphost.com (Postfix, from userid 1022) id ADF0C24D05; Wed, 20 Jun 2001 09:10:41 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by citadel.simphost.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 99FDA20F04; Wed, 20 Jun 2001 09:10:41 -0400 (EDT) Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2001 09:10:28 -0400 (EDT) From: "Jonathan M. Slivko" X-X-Sender: To: , Cc: Subject: CVS still broken? Message-ID: <20010620090853.U23856-100000@citadel.simphost.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Hey Jordan/FreeBSD-Questions List: I was wondering, is the FreeBSD 4.3-STABLE CVSup tree still broken, or has it been fixed since there was last a message on the list about it. I haven't heard anything, so i'm sending this e-mail to try and find out. Thanks! --Jonathan - --------------------------------------------------------- | Jonathan M. Slivko | e-mail: jslivko@jmslivko.org | | Technical Support | Black Lotus Communications | | Server Administrator | AsylumNet IRC Networks | | phone: (212) 726-3516 | web: http://www.jmslivko.org | - --------------------------------------------------------- -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: PGP 6.5.8 Comment: Made with pgp4pine 1.75 iQA/AwUBOzCgzFbZ0BAEOk7TEQKAlgCgpovmFtu2JMWnSmQfd/QoS0xDuBQAnAoY bYe8uVoVt5EKcvFBO9PJJRi7 =JcUF -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Jun 20 6:16:36 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from hotmail.com (f6.law15.hotmail.com [64.4.23.6]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2470C37B401 for ; Wed, 20 Jun 2001 06:16:27 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from leeroyzz@hotmail.com) Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Wed, 20 Jun 2001 06:16:26 -0700 Received: from 63.221.138.130 by lw15fd.law15.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Wed, 20 Jun 2001 13:16:26 GMT X-Originating-IP: [63.221.138.130] From: "Klein B" To: cynic@mail.cz, freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD4.3-STABLE Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2001 13:16:26 -0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 20 Jun 2001 13:16:26.0924 (UTC) FILETIME=[36112EC0:01C0F98B] Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG hi, i know how to compile the kernel, but i never upgrade the freeBSD-release to freeBSD-stable. so... where should i put: # /usr/sbin/config MYKERNEL # cd ../../compile/MYKERNEL # make depend # make # make install into ? or do i have to replace some of my procedure ? Thanks. >From: Cynic >To: "Klein B" ,freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.org >Subject: Re: FreeBSD4.3-STABLE >Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2001 08:12:13 +0200 > >It appears that you haven't actually _read_ the page in >the handbook. you _should_ _read_ it. for example >$ make -x -DVARIABLE target >doesn't mean you should copy that verbatim: > > >In this example, -x is an option that you would pass to make(1). > >See the make(1) manual page for an example of the options you > >can pass. > > > >-DVARIABLE passes a variable to the Makefile. The behavior of > >the Makefile is controlled by these variables. These are the > >same variables as are set in /etc/make.conf, and this provides > >another way of setting them. > > > >target tells make(1) what you want to do. Each Makefile defines > >a number of different ``targets'', and your choice of target > >determines what happens. > >(copied from right below the $ make -x -DVARIABLE target line) > >of course you must update your sources first. cvsup provides >one way this can be done. however, I suggest you practise this >rather nontrivial (for a newcomer) stuff by building a kernel >from the RELEASE sources, i. e. without updating. > >The process is described here: >http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/kernelconfig-building.html >and can be summarized into this: > ># cd /usr/src/sys/i386/conf ># cp GENERIC MYKERNEL >( edit MYKERNEL to fit your needs) ># /usr/sbin/config MYKERNEL ># cd ../../compile/MYKERNEL ># make depend ># make ># make install > >optionally, or if something goes wrong, you can try to just >rebuild GENERIC to see if your system is in a good shape. > >BTW, lots of good info is in /usr/src/sys/i386/conf/LINT > >At 07:21 20.6. 2001, Klein B wrote the following: >-------------------------------------------------------------- > >Hi, > > > >i'm trying to upgrade FreeBSD4.3-RELEASE to FreeBSD4.3-STABLE. > > > >is right what i'm suppose to do ? > > > >pkg_add -f >\ftp://ftp.FreeBSD.org/pub/FreeBSD/development/CVSup/cvsupit.tgz > > > >cd /usr/obj > >chflags -R noschg * > >rm -rf * > > > >script /var/tmp/mw.out > >make TARGET > >exit > > > >cd /usr/src > >make -x -DVARIABLE target > >make -DNOPROFILE=true target > > > >make buildworld > > > >cd /usr/src > >make buildkernel > >make installkernel > > > >/usr/obj/usr/src/usr.sbin/config/config KERNELNAME > >make installworld > > > >make -DNOPROFILE=true buildworld > >make -DNOPROFILE=true installworld > > > >cp -Rp /etc /etc.old > >mkdir /var/tmp/root > >cd /usr/src/etc > >make DESTDIR=/var/tmp/root distrib-dirs distribution > > > >cd /var/tmp/root > >find -d . -type d | xargs rmdir 2>/dev/null > > > >diff /etc/shells /var/tmp/root/etc/shells > > > >mkdir /var/tmp/root-19980214 > >cd /usr/src/etc > >make DESTDIR=/var/tmp/root-19980214 \ > >distrib-dirs distribution > > > > > >cd /var/tmp > >diff -r root-19980214 root-19980221 > > > >rm -rf /var/tmp/root-19980214 > >mkdir /var/tmp/root-`date "+%Y%m%d"` > > > >cp /var/tmp/root/dev/MAKEDEV /dev > >cd /dev > >ls -l | awk '{print $1, $2, $3, $4, $5, $6, $NF}' > /var/tmp/dev.out > > > >sh MAKEDEV all > >diff /var/tmp/dev.out /var/tmp/dev2.out > >sh MAKEDEV sd0s1 > > > >cd /usr/src/release/sysinstall > >make all install > > > >fastboot > > > >Thanks. > > > > > > > > > > > >_________________________________________________________________ > >Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com > > > > > >To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > >with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message >------end of quote------ > > >cynic@mail.cz >------------- >And the eyes of them both were opened and they saw that their files >were world readable and writable, so they chmoded 600 their files. > - Book of Installation chapt 3 sec 7 > _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Jun 20 7:43:58 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from albatross-ext.wise.edt.ericsson.se (albatross-ext.wise.edt.ericsson.se [194.237.142.116]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D91F437B403 for ; Wed, 20 Jun 2001 07:43:09 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from Tim.Ehrhart@eln.ericsson.se) Received: from esealnt461 (esealnt461.al.sw.ericsson.se [153.88.251.61]) by albatross.wise.edt.ericsson.se (8.11.0/8.11.0/WIREfire-1.3) with SMTP id f5KEh8N12505 for ; Wed, 20 Jun 2001 16:43:08 +0200 (MEST) Received: FROM esealnt747.al.sw.ericsson.se BY esealnt461 ; Wed Jun 20 16:43:06 2001 +0200 Received: by ESEALNT747.al.sw.ericsson.se with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Wed, 20 Jun 2001 16:43:06 +0200 Message-ID: <7BA41B5547CCD411833B0002A52CD457F37451@enlrynt306.etm.ericsson.se> From: "Tim Ehrhart (ELN)" To: FreeBSD-Stable Subject: IPsec + IKE (racoon) problems Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2001 16:42:59 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----_=_NextPart_000_01C0F997.4CD17FF0" Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. ------_=_NextPart_000_01C0F997.4CD17FF0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Hello all, I've successful in getting IPsec with v4 & v6 with ah, esp, ah+esp using MANUAL key running. I'm now trying to switch over to racoon. I've followed instructions from various place on the net. I load only SPD into kernel with setkey (see rc.ipsec attachment). Have a very simple psk.txt with v4 & v6 addresses of both hosts (see psk.txt attachment) along with an almost unmodifed racoon.conf file, which I've included. What seems to happen is this: phase 1 (remote) negotiation is not completing before it wants to start phase2 (sainfo) part. Keys are not generated and things don't get worked out. I've included some output from /var/log/racoon.log. <> <> <> <> Would someone (who's done this already?) be willing to look at my files and output to give me a clue how to get things in sync? Thanx, Tim Tim Ehrhart Systems Engineer Ericsson EuroLabs Netherlands b.v. P.O. Box 8, 5120 AA Rijen The Netherlands Tel. +31 161 247327, Fax. +31 161 249912, GSM. +31 6 53720881 E-mail: Tim.Ehrhart@eln.ericsson.se, Internet: http://www.ericsson.nl/ ------_=_NextPart_000_01C0F997.4CD17FF0 Content-Type: text/plain; name="rc.ipsec.txt" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="rc.ipsec.txt" #!/bin/sh=0A= # $Id: rc.ipsec,v 1.3 2001/06/19 11:06:39 root Exp $=0A= #=0A= # $Log: rc.ipsec,v $=0A= # Revision 1.3 2001/06/19 11:06:39 root=0A= # working version for v4 & v6 AH+ESP from lab3v[46] to lab5v[46]=0A= # experimental for v6 AH+ESP from lab3v6 to tina55v6=0A= #=0A= # Revision 1.2 2001/06/15 13:23:27 root=0A= # removed hardcoded address lines on spdadd type/mode//require lines=0A= #=0A= # Revision 1.1 2001/06/15 13:16:44 root=0A= # Initial revision=0A= #=0A= #=0A= # These commands need to be run on node A=0A= # The next 2 lines delete all existing entries from the SPD and SAD=0A= setkey -FP=0A= setkey -F=0A= # Add the policy=0A= setkey -c << EOF=0A= #####################################################=0A= #=0A= # lab3v4 -> lab5v4 outgoing ah+esp=0A= spdadd 195.169.102.69/32 195.169.102.71/32=0A= any -P out ipsec=0A= esp/transport//require=0A= ah/transport//require ;=0A= #=0A= # lab5v4 -> lab3v4 incoming ah+esp=0A= spdadd 195.169.102.71/32 195.169.102.69/32=0A= any -P in ipsec=0A= esp/transport//require=0A= ah/transport//require ;=0A= #=0A= # lab3v6 -> lab5v6 outgoing ah+esp=0A= spdadd 2001:610:1408:210:210:4bff:fe06:26bf/128=0A= 2001:610:1408:210:210:60ff:fe7e:83f9/128=0A= any -P out ipsec=0A= esp/transport//require=0A= ah/transport//require ;=0A= #=0A= # lab5v6 -> lab3v6 incoming ah+esp=0A= spdadd 2001:610:1408:210:210:60ff:fe7e:83f9/128=0A= 2001:610:1408:210:210:4bff:fe06:26bf/128=0A= any -P in ipsec=0A= esp/transport//require=0A= ah/transport//require ;=0A= EOF=0A= ------_=_NextPart_000_01C0F997.4CD17FF0 Content-Type: text/plain; name="psk.txt" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="psk.txt" 195.69.102.69 thisisatest=0A= 195.69.102.71 thisisatest=0A= 2001:610:1408:210:210:4bff:fe06:26bf thisisatest=0A= 2001:610:1408:210:210:60ff:fe7e:83f9 thisisatest=0A= ------_=_NextPart_000_01C0F997.4CD17FF0 Content-Type: text/plain; name="racoon.conf.txt" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="racoon.conf.txt" # $KAME: racoon.conf.in,v 1.16 2000/12/17 21:17:53 sakane Exp $=0A= =0A= # "path" must be placed before it should be used.=0A= # You can overwrite which you defined, but it should not use due to = confusing.=0A= path include "/usr/local/etc/racoon" ;=0A= #include "remote.conf" ;=0A= =0A= # search this file for pre_shared_key with various ID key.=0A= path pre_shared_key "/usr/local/etc/racoon/psk.txt" ;=0A= =0A= # racoon will look for certificate file in the directory,=0A= # if the certificate/certificate request payload is received.=0A= path certificate "/usr/local/etc/cert" ;=0A= =0A= # "log" specifies logging level. It is followed by either "notify", = "debug"=0A= # or "debug2".=0A= log notify;=0A= =0A= # "padding" defines some parameter of padding. You should not touch = these.=0A= padding=0A= {=0A= maximum_length 20; # maximum padding length.=0A= randomize off; # enable randomize length.=0A= strict_check off; # enable strict check.=0A= exclusive_tail off; # extract last one octet.=0A= }=0A= =0A= # if no listen directive is specified, racoon will listen to all=0A= # available interface addresses.=0A= listen=0A= {=0A= #isakmp ::1 [7000];=0A= #isakmp 202.249.11.124 [500];=0A= #admin [7002]; # administrative's port by kmpstat.=0A= #strict_address; # required all addresses must be bound.=0A= }=0A= =0A= # Specification of default various timer.=0A= timer=0A= {=0A= # These value can be changed per remote node.=0A= counter 5; # maximum trying count to send.=0A= interval 20 sec; # maximum interval to resend.=0A= persend 1; # the number of packets per a send.=0A= =0A= # timer for waiting to complete each phase.=0A= phase1 30 sec;=0A= phase2 15 sec;=0A= }=0A= =0A= remote anonymous=0A= {=0A= #exchange_mode main,aggressive;=0A= exchange_mode aggressive,main,base;=0A= #doi ipsec_doi;=0A= #situation identity_only;=0A= =0A= #my_identifier address;=0A= #my_identifier user_fqdn "sakane@kame.net";=0A= #peers_identifier user_fqdn "sakane@kame.net";=0A= #certificate_type x509 "mycert" "mypriv";=0A= =0A= #nonce_size 16;=0A= lifetime time 24 hour; # sec,min,hour=0A= #lifetime byte 5 MB; # B,KB,GB=0A= #initial_contact on;=0A= #support_mip6 on;=0A= #proposal_check obey; # obey, strict or claim=0A= =0A= proposal {=0A= encryption_algorithm des;=0A= hash_algorithm md5;=0A= authentication_method pre_shared_key ;=0A= dh_group 2 ;=0A= }=0A= }=0A= =0A= remote ::1 [8000]=0A= {=0A= #exchange_mode main,aggressive;=0A= exchange_mode aggressive,main;=0A= doi ipsec_doi;=0A= situation identity_only;=0A= =0A= my_identifier user_fqdn "sakane@kame.net";=0A= peers_identifier user_fqdn "sakane@kame.net";=0A= #certificate_type x509 "mycert" "mypriv";=0A= =0A= nonce_size 16;=0A= lifetime time 1 min; # sec,min,hour=0A= lifetime byte 5 MB; # B,KB,GB=0A= =0A= proposal {=0A= encryption_algorithm 3des;=0A= hash_algorithm sha1;=0A= authentication_method pre_shared_key ;=0A= dh_group 2 ;=0A= }=0A= }=0A= =0A= sainfo anonymous=0A= {=0A= pfs_group 1;=0A= lifetime time 3600 sec;=0A= lifetime byte 50000 KB;=0A= encryption_algorithm des ;=0A= authentication_algorithm hmac_md5;=0A= compression_algorithm deflate ;=0A= }=0A= =0A= sainfo address 203.178.141.209 any address 203.178.141.218 any=0A= {=0A= pfs_group 1;=0A= lifetime time 30 sec;=0A= lifetime byte 5000 KB;=0A= encryption_algorithm des ;=0A= authentication_algorithm hmac_md5;=0A= compression_algorithm deflate ;=0A= }=0A= =0A= sainfo address ::1 icmp6 address ::1 icmp6=0A= {=0A= pfs_group 1;=0A= lifetime time 60 sec;=0A= lifetime byte 5000 KB;=0A= encryption_algorithm 3des, cast128, blowfish, des ;=0A= authentication_algorithm hmac_sha1, hmac_md5 ;=0A= compression_algorithm deflate ;=0A= }=0A= =0A= ------_=_NextPart_000_01C0F997.4CD17FF0 Content-Type: text/plain; name="racoon.log.txt" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="racoon.log.txt" 2001-06-20 13:36:04: INFO: main.c:146:main(): @(#)racoon 20001216 = sakane@ydc.co.jp=0A= 2001-06-20 13:36:04: INFO: main.c:147:main(): @(#)This product linked = software developed by the OpenSSL Project for use in the OpenSSL = Toolkit. (http://www.openssl.org/)=0A= 2001-06-20 13:36:04: DEBUG: pfkey.c:377:pfkey_init(): call = pfkey_send_register for AH=0A= 2001-06-20 13:36:04: DEBUG: pfkey.c:377:pfkey_init(): call = pfkey_send_register for ESP=0A= 2001-06-20 13:36:04: DEBUG: pfkey.c:377:pfkey_init(): call = pfkey_send_register for IPCOMP=0A= 2001-06-20 13:36:04: WARNING: cftoken.l:498:yywarn(): = /usr/local/etc/racoon/racoon.conf:65: "MB" the lifetime of bytes in = phase 1 will be ignored at the moment.=0A= 2001-06-20 13:36:04: WARNING: cftoken.l:498:yywarn(): = /usr/local/etc/racoon/racoon.conf:91: "MB" the lifetime of bytes in = phase 1 will be ignored at the moment.=0A= 2001-06-20 13:36:04: WARNING: pfkey.c:1949:pk_checkalg(): compression = algorithm can not be checked.=0A= 2001-06-20 13:36:04: WARNING: pfkey.c:1949:pk_checkalg(): compression = algorithm can not be checked.=0A= 2001-06-20 13:36:04: DEBUG: sainfo.c:98:getsainfo(): anonymous sainfo = selected.=0A= 2001-06-20 13:36:04: WARNING: pfkey.c:1949:pk_checkalg(): compression = algorithm can not be checked.=0A= 2001-06-20 13:36:04: DEBUG: sainfo.c:98:getsainfo(): anonymous sainfo = selected.=0A= 2001-06-20 13:36:04: DEBUG: grabmyaddr.c:209:grab_myaddrs(): my = interface: 195.169.102.69 (xl0)=0A= 2001-06-20 13:36:04: DEBUG: grabmyaddr.c:209:grab_myaddrs(): my = interface: fe80::210:4bff:fe06:26bf%xl0 (xl0)=0A= 2001-06-20 13:36:04: DEBUG: grabmyaddr.c:209:grab_myaddrs(): my = interface: 2001:610:1408:210:210:4bff:fe06:26bf (xl0)=0A= 2001-06-20 13:36:04: DEBUG: grabmyaddr.c:209:grab_myaddrs(): my = interface: fe80::1%lo0 (lo0)=0A= 2001-06-20 13:36:04: DEBUG: grabmyaddr.c:209:grab_myaddrs(): my = interface: ::1 (lo0)=0A= 2001-06-20 13:36:04: DEBUG: grabmyaddr.c:209:grab_myaddrs(): my = interface: 127.0.0.1 (lo0)=0A= 2001-06-20 13:36:04: DEBUG: grabmyaddr.c:476:autoconf_myaddrsport(): = configuring default isakmp port.=0A= 2001-06-20 13:36:04: DEBUG: grabmyaddr.c:498:autoconf_myaddrsport(): 6 = addrs are configured successfully=0A= 2001-06-20 13:36:04: INFO: isakmp.c:1267:isakmp_open(): 127.0.0.1[500] = used as isakmp port (fd=3D5)=0A= 2001-06-20 13:36:04: INFO: isakmp.c:1267:isakmp_open(): ::1[500] used = as isakmp port (fd=3D6)=0A= 2001-06-20 13:36:04: INFO: isakmp.c:1267:isakmp_open(): = fe80::1%lo0[500] used as isakmp port (fd=3D7)=0A= 2001-06-20 13:36:04: INFO: isakmp.c:1267:isakmp_open(): = 2001:610:1408:210:210:4bff:fe06:26bf[500] used as isakmp port = (fd=3D8)=0A= 2001-06-20 13:36:04: INFO: isakmp.c:1267:isakmp_open(): = fe80::210:4bff:fe06:26bf%xl0[500] used as isakmp port (fd=3D9)=0A= 2001-06-20 13:36:04: INFO: isakmp.c:1267:isakmp_open(): = 195.169.102.69[500] used as isakmp port (fd=3D10)=0A= 2001-06-20 13:36:04: DEBUG: pfkey.c:191:pfkey_handler(): get pfkey = X_SPDDUMP message=0A= 2001-06-20 13:36:04: DEBUG: plog.c:205:plogdump(): =0A= 02120000 0f000100 01000000 d9020000 05000500 ff800000 1c1c0000 = 00000000=0A= 20010610 14080210 021060ff fe7e83f9 00000000 00000000 05000600 = ff800000=0A= 1c1c0000 00000000 20010610 14080210 02104bff fe0626bf 00000000 = 00000000=0A= 03001200 02000100 05000000 00000000 08003300 01020000=0A= 2001-06-20 13:36:04: DEBUG: pfkey.c:191:pfkey_handler(): get pfkey = X_SPDDUMP message=0A= 2001-06-20 13:36:04: DEBUG: plog.c:205:plogdump(): =0A= 02120000 0f000100 00000000 d9020000 05000500 ff800000 1c1c0000 = 00000000=0A= 20010610 14080210 02104bff fe0626bf 00000000 00000000 05000600 = ff800000=0A= 1c1c0000 00000000 20010610 14080210 021060ff fe7e83f9 00000000 = 00000000=0A= 03001200 02000200 04000000 00000000 08003300 01020000=0A= 2001-06-20 13:36:04: DEBUG: policy.c:182:cmpspidx(): sub:0xbfbff844: = 2001:610:1408:210:210:4bff:fe06:26bf/128[0] = 2001:610:1408:210:210:60ff:fe7e:83f9/128[0] proto=3Dany dir=3Dout=0A= 2001-06-20 13:36:04: DEBUG: policy.c:183:cmpspidx(): db :0x809f208: = 2001:610:1408:210:210:60ff:fe7e:83f9/128[0] = 2001:610:1408:210:210:4bff:fe06:26bf/128[0] proto=3Dany dir=3Din=0A= 2001-06-20 13:39:28: DEBUG: pfkey.c:191:pfkey_handler(): get pfkey = ACQUIRE message=0A= 2001-06-20 13:39:28: DEBUG: plog.c:205:plogdump(): =0A= 02060002 21000000 1a000000 00000000 05000500 ffe00000 1c1c0000 00000000=0A= 20010610 14080210 02104bff fe0626bf 00000000 00000000 05000600 = ffe00000=0A= 1c1c0000 00000000 20010610 14080210 021060ff fe7e83f9 00000000 = 00000000=0A= 02001200 02000200 04000000 00000000 13000d00 20000000 02000000 = a000a000=0A= 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 = 00000000=0A= 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 = 00000000=0A= 01000000 80008000 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 = 00000000=0A= 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 = 00000000=0A= 00000000 00000000=0A= 2001-06-20 13:39:28: DEBUG: policy.c:212:cmpspidx_wild(): = sub:0xbfbff830: 2001:610:1408:210:210:60ff:fe7e:83f9/128[0] = 2001:610:1408:210:210:4bff:fe06:26bf/128[0] proto=3Dany dir=3Din=0A= 2001-06-20 13:39:28: DEBUG: policy.c:213:cmpspidx_wild(): db: = 0x809f208: 2001:610:1408:210:210:60ff:fe7e:83f9/128[0] = 2001:610:1408:210:210:4bff:fe06:26bf/128[0] proto=3Dany dir=3Din=0A= 2001-06-20 13:39:28: DEBUG: policy.c:241:cmpspidx_wild(): 0xbfbff830 = masked with /128: 2001:610:1408:210:210:60ff:fe7e:83f9[0]=0A= 2001-06-20 13:39:28: DEBUG: policy.c:243:cmpspidx_wild(): 0x809f208 = masked with /128: 2001:610:1408:210:210:60ff:fe7e:83f9[0]=0A= 2001-06-20 13:39:28: DEBUG: policy.c:257:cmpspidx_wild(): 0xbfbff830 = masked with /128: 2001:610:1408:210:210:4bff:fe06:26bf[0]=0A= 2001-06-20 13:39:28: DEBUG: policy.c:259:cmpspidx_wild(): 0x809f208 = masked with /128: 2001:610:1408:210:210:4bff:fe06:26bf[0]=0A= 2001-06-20 13:39:28: DEBUG: pfkey.c:1533:pk_recvacquire(): suitable SP = found: 2001:610:1408:210:210:4bff:fe06:26bf/128[0] = 2001:610:1408:210:210:60ff:fe7e:83f9/128[0] proto=3Dany dir=3Dout.=0A= 2001-06-20 13:39:28: DEBUG: pfkey.c:1565:pk_recvacquire(): new acquire = 2001:610:1408:210:210:4bff:fe06:26bf/128[0] = 2001:610:1408:210:210:60ff:fe7e:83f9/128[0] proto=3Dany dir=3Dout=0A= 2001-06-20 13:39:28: DEBUG: sainfo.c:98:getsainfo(): anonymous sainfo = selected.=0A= 2001-06-20 13:39:28: DEBUG: remoteconf.c:127:getrmconf(): anonymous = configuration selected for 2001:610:1408:210:210:60ff:fe7e:83f9.=0A= 2001-06-20 13:39:28: INFO: isakmp.c:1599:isakmp_post_acquire(): = IPsec-SA request for 2001:610:1408:210:210:60ff:fe7e:83f9 queued due to = no phase1 found.=0A= 2001-06-20 13:39:28: DEBUG: isakmp.c:766:isakmp_ph1begin_i(): = =3D=3D=3D=0A= 2001-06-20 13:39:28: INFO: isakmp.c:771:isakmp_ph1begin_i(): initiate = new phase 1 negotiation: = 2001:610:1408:210:210:4bff:fe06:26bf[500]<=3D>2001:610:1408:210:210:60ff= :fe7e:83f9[500]=0A= 2001-06-20 13:39:28: INFO: isakmp.c:776:isakmp_ph1begin_i(): begin = Aggressive mode.=0A= 2001-06-20 13:39:28: DEBUG: isakmp.c:1902:isakmp_newcookie(): new = cookie:=0A= cbc6f7f55ad2389f =0A= 2001-06-20 13:39:28: DEBUG: ipsec_doi.c:3161:ipsecdoi_setid1(): use ID = type of User_FQDN=0A= 2001-06-20 13:39:28: DEBUG: oakley.c:228:oakley_dh_generate(): compute = DH's private.=0A= 2001-06-20 13:39:28: DEBUG: plog.c:205:plogdump(): =0A= 448859a4 ffe5e485 018120ff f6c987c5 34bd6741 b60a9f58 12ed4724 = 69375f05=0A= 0b1ff1fb 03795313 32fb8fd3 7852f963 c1bd90e8 43a72a38 a8af8286 = c3c5c6f2=0A= cfe24553 d1edde55 d149e7bf 50eac4b7 4be7b9e0 6a06f3b7 db4b2e71 = e2b44509=0A= 738891c7 a50f328e b61f1ea4 8c955734 3a451686 ebf65a05 f5bedcdd = 528bbcea=0A= 2001-06-20 13:39:28: DEBUG: oakley.c:230:oakley_dh_generate(): compute = DH's public.=0A= 2001-06-20 13:39:28: DEBUG: plog.c:205:plogdump(): =0A= 86fb1b63 89e3666f c5e47c84 8255cbec 28310d3d 05dab56c 722f7c4e = 36a19181=0A= 64c35b6e 19873f48 298cebb3 bb8eb81e cd57bc75 93cc4507 bc8e20ac = 15eec5a0=0A= 20377a9b bcf2ad8b 04b0023a dcd0f684 20a25f04 52c5d6dc 160e6ca0 = cc1d3474=0A= ec768ce4 2518ef70 fde6eba7 3525d53a 9ec541e2 e5d37e5c c0b512ba = 98701889=0A= 2001-06-20 13:39:28: DEBUG: isakmp_agg.c:157:agg_i1send(): authmethod = is pre-shared key=0A= 2001-06-20 13:39:28: DEBUG: isakmp.c:2015:set_isakmp_payload(): add = payload of len 56, next type 4=0A= 2001-06-20 13:39:28: DEBUG: isakmp.c:2015:set_isakmp_payload(): add = payload of len 128, next type 10=0A= 2001-06-20 13:39:28: DEBUG: isakmp.c:2015:set_isakmp_payload(): add = payload of len 16, next type 5=0A= 2001-06-20 13:39:28: DEBUG: isakmp.c:2015:set_isakmp_payload(): add = payload of len 19, next type 0=0A= 2001-06-20 13:39:28: DEBUG: isakmp.c:2150:isakmp_printpacket(): = begin.=0A= 2001-06-20 13:39:28: DEBUG: sockmisc.c:357:sendfromto(): sockname = 2001:610:1408:210:210:4bff:fe06:26bf[500]=0A= 2001-06-20 13:39:28: DEBUG: sockmisc.c:359:sendfromto(): send packet = from 2001:610:1408:210:210:4bff:fe06:26bf[500]=0A= 2001-06-20 13:39:28: DEBUG: sockmisc.c:361:sendfromto(): send packet to = 2001:610:1408:210:210:60ff:fe7e:83f9[500]=0A= 2001-06-20 13:39:28: DEBUG: sockmisc.c:417:sendfromto(): src6 = 2001:610:1408:210:210:4bff:fe06:26bf[500] 0=0A= 2001-06-20 13:39:28: DEBUG: sockmisc.c:421:sendfromto(): dst6 = 2001:610:1408:210:210:60ff:fe7e:83f9[500] 0=0A= 2001-06-20 13:39:28: DEBUG: isakmp.c:1350:isakmp_send(): 1 times of 263 = bytes message will be sent.=0A= 2001-06-20 13:39:28: DEBUG: plog.c:205:plogdump(): =0A= cbc6f7f5 5ad2389f 00000000 00000000 01100400 00000000 00000107 = 0400003c=0A= 00000001 00000001 00000030 01010001 00000028 01010000 800b0001 = 800c003c=0A= 800b0002 800c1400 80010001 80030001 80020001 80040002 0a000084 = 86fb1b63=0A= 89e3666f c5e47c84 8255cbec 28310d3d 05dab56c 722f7c4e 36a19181 = 64c35b6e=0A= 19873f48 298cebb3 bb8eb81e cd57bc75 93cc4507 bc8e20ac 15eec5a0 = 20377a9b=0A= bcf2ad8b 04b0023a dcd0f684 20a25f04 52c5d6dc 160e6ca0 cc1d3474 = ec768ce4=0A= 2518ef70 fde6eba7 3525d53a 9ec541e2 e5d37e5c c0b512ba 98701889 = 05000014=0A= 9512d78c 683c9ce8 ae432d6d 74083668 00000017 03000000 73616b61 = 6e65406b=0A= 616d652e 6e6574=0A= 2001-06-20 13:39:48: DEBUG: isakmp.c:1370:isakmp_ph1resend(): resend = phase1 packet cbc6f7f55ad2389f:0000000000000000=0A= 2001-06-20 13:39:48: DEBUG: sockmisc.c:357:sendfromto(): sockname = 2001:610:1408:210:210:4bff:fe06:26bf[500]=0A= 2001-06-20 13:39:48: DEBUG: sockmisc.c:359:sendfromto(): send packet = from 2001:610:1408:210:210:4bff:fe06:26bf[500]=0A= 2001-06-20 13:39:48: DEBUG: sockmisc.c:361:sendfromto(): send packet to = 2001:610:1408:210:210:60ff:fe7e:83f9[500]=0A= 2001-06-20 13:39:48: DEBUG: sockmisc.c:417:sendfromto(): src6 = 2001:610:1408:210:210:4bff:fe06:26bf[500] 0=0A= 2001-06-20 13:39:48: DEBUG: sockmisc.c:421:sendfromto(): dst6 = 2001:610:1408:210:210:60ff:fe7e:83f9[500] 0=0A= 2001-06-20 13:39:48: DEBUG: isakmp.c:1350:isakmp_send(): 1 times of 263 = bytes message will be sent.=0A= 2001-06-20 13:39:48: DEBUG: plog.c:205:plogdump(): =0A= cbc6f7f5 5ad2389f 00000000 00000000 01100400 00000000 00000107 = 0400003c=0A= 00000001 00000001 00000030 01010001 00000028 01010000 800b0001 = 800c003c=0A= 800b0002 800c1400 80010001 80030001 80020001 80040002 0a000084 = 86fb1b63=0A= 89e3666f c5e47c84 8255cbec 28310d3d 05dab56c 722f7c4e 36a19181 = 64c35b6e=0A= 19873f48 298cebb3 bb8eb81e cd57bc75 93cc4507 bc8e20ac 15eec5a0 = 20377a9b=0A= bcf2ad8b 04b0023a dcd0f684 20a25f04 52c5d6dc 160e6ca0 cc1d3474 = ec768ce4=0A= 2518ef70 fde6eba7 3525d53a 9ec541e2 e5d37e5c c0b512ba 98701889 = 05000014=0A= 9512d78c 683c9ce8 ae432d6d 74083668 00000017 03000000 73616b61 = 6e65406b=0A= 616d652e 6e6574=0A= 2001-06-20 13:39:49: DEBUG: pfkey.c:191:pfkey_handler(): get pfkey = ACQUIRE message=0A= 2001-06-20 13:39:49: DEBUG: plog.c:205:plogdump(): =0A= 02060002 21000000 1b000000 00000000 05000500 ffe00000 1c1c0000 = 00000000=0A= 20010610 14080210 02104bff fe0626bf 00000000 00000000 05000600 = ffe00000=0A= 1c1c0000 00000000 20010610 14080210 021060ff fe7e83f9 00000000 = 00000000=0A= 02001200 02000200 04000000 00000000 13000d00 20000000 02000000 = a000a000=0A= 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 = 00000000=0A= 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 = 00000000=0A= 01000000 80008000 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 = 00000000=0A= 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 = 00000000=0A= 00000000 00000000=0A= 2001-06-20 13:39:49: DEBUG: pfkey.c:1497:pk_recvacquire(): ignore the = acquire becuase ph2 found=0A= 2001-06-20 13:39:59: ERROR: isakmp.c:1676:isakmp_chkph1there(): phase1 = negotiation failed due to time up.=0A= 2001-06-20 13:39:59: INFO: isakmp.c:1678:isakmp_chkph1there(): delete = phase 2 handler.=0A= 2001-06-20 13:40:08: DEBUG: isakmp.c:1370:isakmp_ph1resend(): resend = phase1 packet cbc6f7f55ad2389f:0000000000000000=0A= 2001-06-20 13:40:08: DEBUG: sockmisc.c:357:sendfromto(): sockname = 2001:610:1408:210:210:4bff:fe06:26bf[500]=0A= 2001-06-20 13:40:08: DEBUG: sockmisc.c:359:sendfromto(): send packet = from 2001:610:1408:210:210:4bff:fe06:26bf[500]=0A= 2001-06-20 13:40:08: DEBUG: sockmisc.c:361:sendfromto(): send packet to = 2001:610:1408:210:210:60ff:fe7e:83f9[500]=0A= 2001-06-20 13:40:08: DEBUG: sockmisc.c:417:sendfromto(): src6 = 2001:610:1408:210:210:4bff:fe06:26bf[500] 0=0A= 2001-06-20 13:40:08: DEBUG: sockmisc.c:421:sendfromto(): dst6 = 2001:610:1408:210:210:60ff:fe7e:83f9[500] 0=0A= 2001-06-20 13:40:08: DEBUG: isakmp.c:1350:isakmp_send(): 1 times of 263 = bytes message will be sent.=0A= 2001-06-20 13:40:08: DEBUG: plog.c:205:plogdump(): =0A= cbc6f7f5 5ad2389f 00000000 00000000 01100400 00000000 00000107 = 0400003c=0A= 00000001 00000001 00000030 01010001 00000028 01010000 800b0001 = 800c003c=0A= 800b0002 800c1400 80010001 80030001 80020001 80040002 0a000084 = 86fb1b63=0A= 89e3666f c5e47c84 8255cbec 28310d3d 05dab56c 722f7c4e 36a19181 = 64c35b6e=0A= 19873f48 298cebb3 bb8eb81e cd57bc75 93cc4507 bc8e20ac 15eec5a0 = 20377a9b=0A= bcf2ad8b 04b0023a dcd0f684 20a25f04 52c5d6dc 160e6ca0 cc1d3474 = ec768ce4=0A= 2518ef70 fde6eba7 3525d53a 9ec541e2 e5d37e5c c0b512ba 98701889 = 05000014=0A= 9512d78c 683c9ce8 ae432d6d 74083668 00000017 03000000 73616b61 = 6e65406b=0A= 616d652e 6e6574=0A= 2001-06-20 13:40:13: DEBUG: pfkey.c:191:pfkey_handler(): get pfkey = ACQUIRE message=0A= 2001-06-20 13:40:13: DEBUG: plog.c:205:plogdump(): =0A= 02060002 21000000 1c000000 00000000 05000500 ffe00000 1c1c0000 = 00000000=0A= 20010610 14080210 02104bff fe0626bf 00000000 00000000 05000600 = ffe00000=0A= 1c1c0000 00000000 20010610 14080210 021060ff fe7e83f9 00000000 = 00000000=0A= 02001200 02000200 04000000 00000000 13000d00 20000000 02000000 = a000a000=0A= 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 = 00000000=0A= 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 = 00000000=0A= 01000000 80008000 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 = 00000000=0A= 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 = 00000000=0A= 00000000 00000000=0A= 2001-06-20 13:40:13: DEBUG: policy.c:212:cmpspidx_wild(): = sub:0xbfbff830: 2001:610:1408:210:210:60ff:fe7e:83f9/128[0] = 2001:610:1408:210:210:4bff:fe06:26bf/128[0] proto=3Dany dir=3Din=0A= 2001-06-20 13:40:13: DEBUG: policy.c:213:cmpspidx_wild(): db: = 0x809f208: 2001:610:1408:210:210:60ff:fe7e:83f9/128[0] = 2001:610:1408:210:210:4bff:fe06:26bf/128[0] proto=3Dany dir=3Din=0A= 2001-06-20 13:40:13: DEBUG: policy.c:241:cmpspidx_wild(): 0xbfbff830 = masked with /128: 2001:610:1408:210:210:60ff:fe7e:83f9[0]=0A= 2001-06-20 13:40:13: DEBUG: policy.c:243:cmpspidx_wild(): 0x809f208 = masked with /128: 2001:610:1408:210:210:60ff:fe7e:83f9[0]=0A= 2001-06-20 13:40:13: DEBUG: policy.c:257:cmpspidx_wild(): 0xbfbff830 = masked with /128: 2001:610:1408:210:210:4bff:fe06:26bf[0]=0A= 2001-06-20 13:40:13: DEBUG: policy.c:259:cmpspidx_wild(): 0x809f208 = masked with /128: 2001:610:1408:210:210:4bff:fe06:26bf[0]=0A= 2001-06-20 13:40:13: DEBUG: pfkey.c:1533:pk_recvacquire(): suitable SP = found: 2001:610:1408:210:210:4bff:fe06:26bf/128[0] = 2001:610:1408:210:210:60ff:fe7e:83f9/128[0] proto=3Dany dir=3Dout.=0A= 2001-06-20 13:40:13: DEBUG: pfkey.c:1565:pk_recvacquire(): new acquire = 2001:610:1408:210:210:4bff:fe06:26bf/128[0] = 2001:610:1408:210:210:60ff:fe7e:83f9/128[0] proto=3Dany dir=3Dout=0A= 2001-06-20 13:40:13: DEBUG: sainfo.c:98:getsainfo(): anonymous sainfo = selected.=0A= 2001-06-20 13:40:13: DEBUG: remoteconf.c:127:getrmconf(): anonymous = configuration selected for 2001:610:1408:210:210:60ff:fe7e:83f9.=0A= 2001-06-20 13:40:13: INFO: isakmp.c:1618:isakmp_post_acquire(): request = for establishing IPsec-SA was queued due to no phase1 found.=0A= 2001-06-20 13:40:28: DEBUG: isakmp.c:1370:isakmp_ph1resend(): resend = phase1 packet cbc6f7f55ad2389f:0000000000000000=0A= 2001-06-20 13:40:28: DEBUG: sockmisc.c:357:sendfromto(): sockname = 2001:610:1408:210:210:4bff:fe06:26bf[500]=0A= 2001-06-20 13:40:28: DEBUG: sockmisc.c:359:sendfromto(): send packet = from 2001:610:1408:210:210:4bff:fe06:26bf[500]=0A= 2001-06-20 13:40:28: DEBUG: sockmisc.c:361:sendfromto(): send packet to = 2001:610:1408:210:210:60ff:fe7e:83f9[500]=0A= 2001-06-20 13:40:28: DEBUG: sockmisc.c:417:sendfromto(): src6 = 2001:610:1408:210:210:4bff:fe06:26bf[500] 0=0A= 2001-06-20 13:40:28: DEBUG: sockmisc.c:421:sendfromto(): dst6 = 2001:610:1408:210:210:60ff:fe7e:83f9[500] 0=0A= 2001-06-20 13:40:28: DEBUG: isakmp.c:1350:isakmp_send(): 1 times of 263 = bytes message will be sent.=0A= 2001-06-20 13:40:28: DEBUG: plog.c:205:plogdump(): =0A= cbc6f7f5 5ad2389f 00000000 00000000 01100400 00000000 00000107 = 0400003c=0A= 00000001 00000001 00000030 01010001 00000028 01010000 800b0001 = 800c003c=0A= 800b0002 800c1400 80010001 80030001 80020001 80040002 0a000084 = 86fb1b63=0A= 89e3666f c5e47c84 8255cbec 28310d3d 05dab56c 722f7c4e 36a19181 = 64c35b6e=0A= 19873f48 298cebb3 bb8eb81e cd57bc75 93cc4507 bc8e20ac 15eec5a0 = 20377a9b=0A= bcf2ad8b 04b0023a dcd0f684 20a25f04 52c5d6dc 160e6ca0 cc1d3474 = ec768ce4=0A= 2518ef70 fde6eba7 3525d53a 9ec541e2 e5d37e5c c0b512ba 98701889 = 05000014=0A= 9512d78c 683c9ce8 ae432d6d 74083668 00000017 03000000 73616b61 = 6e65406b=0A= 616d652e 6e6574=0A= 2001-06-20 13:40:45: ERROR: isakmp.c:1676:isakmp_chkph1there(): phase1 = negotiation failed due to time up.=0A= 2001-06-20 13:40:45: INFO: isakmp.c:1678:isakmp_chkph1there(): delete = phase 2 handler.=0A= 2001-06-20 13:40:48: DEBUG: isakmp.c:1370:isakmp_ph1resend(): resend = phase1 packet cbc6f7f55ad2389f:0000000000000000=0A= 2001-06-20 13:40:48: DEBUG: sockmisc.c:357:sendfromto(): sockname = 2001:610:1408:210:210:4bff:fe06:26bf[500]=0A= 2001-06-20 13:40:48: DEBUG: sockmisc.c:359:sendfromto(): send packet = from 2001:610:1408:210:210:4bff:fe06:26bf[500]=0A= 2001-06-20 13:40:48: DEBUG: sockmisc.c:361:sendfromto(): send packet to = 2001:610:1408:210:210:60ff:fe7e:83f9[500]=0A= 2001-06-20 13:40:48: DEBUG: sockmisc.c:417:sendfromto(): src6 = 2001:610:1408:210:210:4bff:fe06:26bf[500] 0=0A= 2001-06-20 13:40:48: DEBUG: sockmisc.c:421:sendfromto(): dst6 = 2001:610:1408:210:210:60ff:fe7e:83f9[500] 0=0A= 2001-06-20 13:40:48: DEBUG: isakmp.c:1350:isakmp_send(): 1 times of 263 = bytes message will be sent.=0A= 2001-06-20 13:40:48: DEBUG: plog.c:205:plogdump(): =0A= cbc6f7f5 5ad2389f 00000000 00000000 01100400 00000000 00000107 = 0400003c=0A= 00000001 00000001 00000030 01010001 00000028 01010000 800b0001 = 800c003c=0A= 800b0002 800c1400 80010001 80030001 80020001 80040002 0a000084 = 86fb1b63=0A= 89e3666f c5e47c84 8255cbec 28310d3d 05dab56c 722f7c4e 36a19181 = 64c35b6e=0A= 19873f48 298cebb3 bb8eb81e cd57bc75 93cc4507 bc8e20ac 15eec5a0 = 20377a9b=0A= bcf2ad8b 04b0023a dcd0f684 20a25f04 52c5d6dc 160e6ca0 cc1d3474 = ec768ce4=0A= 2518ef70 fde6eba7 3525d53a 9ec541e2 e5d37e5c c0b512ba 98701889 = 05000014=0A= 9512d78c 683c9ce8 ae432d6d 74083668 00000017 03000000 73616b61 = 6e65406b=0A= 616d652e 6e6574=0A= 2001-06-20 13:41:08: DEBUG: isakmp.c:1370:isakmp_ph1resend(): resend = phase1 packet cbc6f7f55ad2389f:0000000000000000=0A= 2001-06-20 13:41:08: DEBUG: sockmisc.c:357:sendfromto(): sockname = 2001:610:1408:210:210:4bff:fe06:26bf[500]=0A= 2001-06-20 13:41:08: DEBUG: sockmisc.c:359:sendfromto(): send packet = from 2001:610:1408:210:210:4bff:fe06:26bf[500]=0A= 2001-06-20 13:41:08: DEBUG: sockmisc.c:361:sendfromto(): send packet to = 2001:610:1408:210:210:60ff:fe7e:83f9[500]=0A= 2001-06-20 13:41:08: DEBUG: sockmisc.c:417:sendfromto(): src6 = 2001:610:1408:210:210:4bff:fe06:26bf[500] 0=0A= 2001-06-20 13:41:08: DEBUG: sockmisc.c:421:sendfromto(): dst6 = 2001:610:1408:210:210:60ff:fe7e:83f9[500] 0=0A= 2001-06-20 13:41:08: DEBUG: isakmp.c:1350:isakmp_send(): 1 times of 263 = bytes message will be sent.=0A= 2001-06-20 13:41:08: DEBUG: plog.c:205:plogdump(): =0A= cbc6f7f5 5ad2389f 00000000 00000000 01100400 00000000 00000107 = 0400003c=0A= 00000001 00000001 00000030 01010001 00000028 01010000 800b0001 = 800c003c=0A= 800b0002 800c1400 80010001 80030001 80020001 80040002 0a000084 = 86fb1b63=0A= 89e3666f c5e47c84 8255cbec 28310d3d 05dab56c 722f7c4e 36a19181 = 64c35b6e=0A= 19873f48 298cebb3 bb8eb81e cd57bc75 93cc4507 bc8e20ac 15eec5a0 = 20377a9b=0A= bcf2ad8b 04b0023a dcd0f684 20a25f04 52c5d6dc 160e6ca0 cc1d3474 = ec768ce4=0A= 2518ef70 fde6eba7 3525d53a 9ec541e2 e5d37e5c c0b512ba 98701889 = 05000014=0A= 9512d78c 683c9ce8 ae432d6d 74083668 00000017 03000000 73616b61 = 6e65406b=0A= 616d652e 6e6574=0A= 2001-06-20 13:41:28: DEBUG: isakmp.c:1370:isakmp_ph1resend(): resend = phase1 packet cbc6f7f55ad2389f:0000000000000000=0A= 2001-06-20 13:41:28: DEBUG: sockmisc.c:357:sendfromto(): sockname = 2001:610:1408:210:210:4bff:fe06:26bf[500]=0A= 2001-06-20 13:41:28: DEBUG: sockmisc.c:359:sendfromto(): send packet = from 2001:610:1408:210:210:4bff:fe06:26bf[500]=0A= 2001-06-20 13:41:28: DEBUG: sockmisc.c:361:sendfromto(): send packet to = 2001:610:1408:210:210:60ff:fe7e:83f9[500]=0A= 2001-06-20 13:41:28: DEBUG: sockmisc.c:417:sendfromto(): src6 = 2001:610:1408:210:210:4bff:fe06:26bf[500] 0=0A= 2001-06-20 13:41:28: DEBUG: sockmisc.c:421:sendfromto(): dst6 = 2001:610:1408:210:210:60ff:fe7e:83f9[500] 0=0A= 2001-06-20 13:41:28: DEBUG: isakmp.c:1350:isakmp_send(): 1 times of 263 = bytes message will be sent.=0A= 2001-06-20 13:41:28: DEBUG: plog.c:205:plogdump(): =0A= cbc6f7f5 5ad2389f 00000000 00000000 01100400 00000000 00000107 = 0400003c=0A= 00000001 00000001 00000030 01010001 00000028 01010000 800b0001 = 800c003c=0A= 800b0002 800c1400 80010001 80030001 80020001 80040002 0a000084 = 86fb1b63=0A= 89e3666f c5e47c84 8255cbec 28310d3d 05dab56c 722f7c4e 36a19181 = 64c35b6e=0A= 19873f48 298cebb3 bb8eb81e cd57bc75 93cc4507 bc8e20ac 15eec5a0 = 20377a9b=0A= bcf2ad8b 04b0023a dcd0f684 20a25f04 52c5d6dc 160e6ca0 cc1d3474 = ec768ce4=0A= 2518ef70 fde6eba7 3525d53a 9ec541e2 e5d37e5c c0b512ba 98701889 = 05000014=0A= 9512d78c 683c9ce8 ae432d6d 74083668 00000017 03000000 73616b61 = 6e65406b=0A= 616d652e 6e6574=0A= 2001-06-20 13:41:28: ERROR: isakmp.c:1380:isakmp_ph1resend(): phase1 = negotiation failed due to time up. cbc6f7f55ad2389f:0000000000000000=0A= 2001-06-20 13:44:10: INFO: session.c:276:check_sigreq(): caught signal = 2=0A= 2001-06-20 13:44:10: DEBUG: pfkey.c:191:pfkey_handler(): get pfkey = FLUSH message=0A= 2001-06-20 13:44:10: DEBUG: plog.c:205:plogdump(): =0A= 02090000 02000000 00000000 d9020000=0A= 2001-06-20 13:44:11: DEBUG: pfkey.c:277:pfkey_dump_sadb(): call = pfkey_send_dump=0A= 2001-06-20 13:44:11: ERROR: backupsa.c:355:backupsa_clean(): failed to = clean the backup file (null).=0A= ------_=_NextPart_000_01C0F997.4CD17FF0-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Jun 20 7:52:36 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from imr1.ericy.com (imr1.ericy.com [208.237.135.240]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5642537B41E for ; Wed, 20 Jun 2001 07:52:08 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from Antoine.Beaupre@ericsson.ca) Received: from mr5.exu.ericsson.se (mr5u3.ericy.com [208.237.135.124]) by imr1.ericy.com (8.11.3/8.11.3) with ESMTP id f5KEpqa02671; Wed, 20 Jun 2001 09:51:52 -0500 (CDT) Received: from noah.lmc.ericsson.se (noah.lmc.ericsson.se [142.133.1.1]) by mr5.exu.ericsson.se (8.11.3/8.11.3) with ESMTP id f5KEppF05683; Wed, 20 Jun 2001 09:51:51 -0500 (CDT) Received: from lmc35.lmc.ericsson.se (lmc35.lmc.ericsson.se [142.133.16.175]) by noah.lmc.ericsson.se (8.11.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id f5KEpnG27326; Wed, 20 Jun 2001 10:51:50 -0400 (EDT) Received: by lmc35.lmc.ericsson.se with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Wed, 20 Jun 2001 10:51:48 -0400 Received: from lmc.ericsson.se (lmcpc100455.pc.lmc.ericsson.se [142.133.23.150]) by LMC37.lmc.ericsson.se with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2653.13) id NJD50NS3; Wed, 20 Jun 2001 10:51:44 -0400 From: "Antoine Beaupre (LMC)" To: Robert L Sowders Cc: Flemming Froekjaer , stable@FreeBSD.ORG, Warner Losh Message-ID: <3B30B87F.5070601@lmc.ericsson.se> Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2001 10:51:43 -0400 Organization: LMC, Ericsson Research Canada User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; WinNT4.0; en-US; rv:0.9.1) Gecko/20010607 X-Accept-Language: en,fr-CA,fr MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: SSH default for dump??? (was: Re: No rdump on stable?) References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Wow. This has been a while now... I probably stumbled upon something like that in -security. Warner, what's the current decision? Was there patches applied to -current? I think the general issue was that you can already do ssh host dump > file and such things. It's just useful to have ssh as a replacement for rcmd for multitapes... BTW, the address of the original pr submitter is available on: http://sites.inka.de/~W3775/unix/ Thx. a. Robert L Sowders wrote: > Don't know. > the last item mentioned in the PR is a note to Warner to commit some > stuff from OpenBSD. Have a look. > http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=15830 > > "Antoine Beaupre (LMC)" > Sent by: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG > 06/19/2001 06:55 AM > > To: Flemming Froekjaer > cc: stable@FreeBSD.ORG > Subject: Re: No rdump on stable? > > I might be way off here, but I think dump might use ssh(1) instead of > rsh(1) by default now. > > Or is it? > > A. > > Flemming Froekjaer wrote: > > >>I need some advise on how to do remore dumps. >>rdump -0af flemming@tapebox:/dev/nsa0 >>It used to work, but then i upgraded to 4.3 Stable (It worked on 4.3 >>release) >>Now I get this: >> >> rdump -0af flemming@tapeserver:/dev/nsa0 / >> DUMP: Login incorrect. >> DUMP: login to tapeserver as flemming failed. >> >>replacing the username with root gives same resoult. >>I'm doing this as root. >> >>If I do: >>rsh -l flemming tapeserver >>It prompts me for a password, and let me in. >> >>In the /etc/hosts.equiv i have listed the server I'm trying to backup. >> >>What am I doing wrong? Is there another way to acomplish this? >> >>\Flemming -- Antoine Beaupré Jambala TCM team Ericsson Canada inc. mailto:antoine.beaupre@ericsson.ca To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Jun 20 8:10:45 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from euripides.enigma.ie (euripides.enigma.ie [194.106.143.89]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D8DF937B410 for ; Wed, 20 Jun 2001 08:10:41 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nick-fbsdstable@netability.ie) Received: (qmail 12233 invoked by uid 1009); 20 Jun 2001 15:10:30 -0000 From: "Nick Hilliard" Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2001 16:10:30 +0100 To: stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: IPsec + IKE (racoon) problems Message-ID: <20010620161030.A12091@euripides.enigma.ie> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > I'm now trying to switch over to racoon. I've followed instructions from > various place on the net. I load only SPD into kernel with setkey (see > rc.ipsec attachment). Have a very simple psk.txt with v4 & v6 addresses > of both hosts (see psk.txt attachment) along with an almost unmodifed > racoon.conf file, which I've included. I'm not going to comment on your racoon configuration because ipsec configuration in general on freebsd is pretty baroque and it's been a while since I've looked at it hard. However, I will say that even when I got a simplistic racoon configuration working, ipsec would stop working at arbitrary times, and the only way to get it working again was to kill off all instances of racoon, clear out the SPD and SAD on each machine, and then restart the whole lot again. Let me know if you want the configuration. There's a good article on this on: http://www.daemonnews.org/200101/ipsec-howto.html but, hey, you've probably seen it already. :-) Nick To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Jun 20 8:13: 7 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from tsunami.reflectively.net (tsunami.reflectively.net [216.85.76.11]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 599CB37B401 for ; Wed, 20 Jun 2001 08:13:05 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from rna@reflectively.net) Received: (qmail 67968 invoked by uid 1001); 20 Jun 2001 15:13:03 -0000 Received: from localhost (sendmail-bs@127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 20 Jun 2001 15:13:03 -0000 Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2001 11:13:03 -0400 (EDT) From: Robert To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Expiry Field Broken. Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG It seems as if the expiry field no longer "Expires" accounts. Does anyone know what has happened? To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Jun 20 8:25:39 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from vixie.stac.state.tx.us (ns.dir.state.tx.us [204.64.177.5]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 764AD37B406 for ; Wed, 20 Jun 2001 08:25:36 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from unstable@vixie.stac.state.tx.us) Received: from localhost (unstable@localhost) by vixie.stac.state.tx.us (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f5KFQZE50711 for ; Wed, 20 Jun 2001 10:26:35 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from unstable@vixie.stac.state.tx.us) Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2001 10:26:35 -0500 (CDT) From: stuart nichols To: Subject: releng4 no longer -STABLE??? Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG There have been no new -STABLE snapshots on releng4 since jun 10. Did I miss some message that says it was moved? www.freebsd.org still points to it as the location of the -STABLE branch installs. The Jun 10 snapshot doesn't have any packages--the link points off into space--and I found a message dated May 28 on this list asking about what happened to the packages, so they've been missing from there for a while. No reply that I could find. And no one seems to be mentioning any of this on this list. Did somebody move the barn? -- stu unstable@stac.state.tx.us Office: (512) 463-7601 FAX: (512) 475-4759 stuart nichols State Technology Assessment Center Texas Department of Information Resources 300 West 15th Street Austin TX 78744 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Jun 20 8:29:45 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from smtp2.sentex.ca (smtp2.sentex.ca [199.212.134.9]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4632D37B403 for ; Wed, 20 Jun 2001 08:29:42 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mike@sentex.net) Received: from simoeon.sentex.net (simeon.sentex.ca [209.112.4.47]) by smtp2.sentex.ca (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f5KFTUm53829; Wed, 20 Jun 2001 11:29:30 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from mike@sentex.net) Message-Id: <5.1.0.14.0.20010620111103.02676080@marble.sentex.ca> X-Sender: mdtpop@marble.sentex.ca X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2001 11:23:23 -0400 To: Robert , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG From: Mike Tancsa Subject: Re: Expiry Field Broken. In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hmmm, it seems to be that way for some time now :-( A snapshot I have from May 21st is similarly hosed. For telnet, it works, however, ssh and ftp lets the account in unhindered. ---Mike At 11:13 AM 6/20/01 -0400, Robert wrote: >It seems as if the expiry field no longer "Expires" accounts. > >Does anyone know what has happened? > > > >To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org >with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Jun 20 8:42:31 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from winston.osd.bsdi.com (adsl-64-173-15-98.dsl.sntc01.pacbell.net [64.173.15.98]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C0A4737B401; Wed, 20 Jun 2001 08:42:17 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jkh@osd.bsdi.com) Received: from localhost (jkh@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by winston.osd.bsdi.com (8.11.4/8.11.3) with ESMTP id f5KFfjt98123; Wed, 20 Jun 2001 08:41:46 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jkh@osd.bsdi.com) To: jslivko@jmslivko.org Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: CVS still broken? In-Reply-To: <20010620090853.U23856-100000@citadel.simphost.com> References: <20010620090853.U23856-100000@citadel.simphost.com> X-Mailer: Mew version 1.94.1 on Emacs 20.7 / Mule 4.0 (HANANOEN) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <20010620084145X.jkh@osd.bsdi.com> Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2001 08:41:45 -0700 From: Jordan Hubbard X-Dispatcher: imput version 20000228(IM140) Lines: 35 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Yes, it's been fixed for some time now. - Jordan From: "Jonathan M. Slivko" Subject: CVS still broken? Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2001 09:10:28 -0400 (EDT) > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA1 > > Hey Jordan/FreeBSD-Questions List: > > I was wondering, is the FreeBSD 4.3-STABLE CVSup tree still broken, or has > it been fixed since there was last a message on the list about it. I > haven't heard anything, so i'm sending this e-mail to try and find out. > Thanks! --Jonathan > > - --------------------------------------------------------- > | Jonathan M. Slivko | e-mail: jslivko@jmslivko.org | > | Technical Support | Black Lotus Communications | > | Server Administrator | AsylumNet IRC Networks | > | phone: (212) 726-3516 | web: http://www.jmslivko.org | > - --------------------------------------------------------- > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- > Version: PGP 6.5.8 > Comment: Made with pgp4pine 1.75 > > iQA/AwUBOzCgzFbZ0BAEOk7TEQKAlgCgpovmFtu2JMWnSmQfd/QoS0xDuBQAnAoY > bYe8uVoVt5EKcvFBO9PJJRi7 > =JcUF > -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Jun 20 9: 0: 6 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from femail4.sdc1.sfba.home.com (femail4.sdc1.sfba.home.com [24.0.95.84]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9B9A637B401 for ; Wed, 20 Jun 2001 09:00:02 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from bmah@employees.org) Received: from intruder.bmah.org ([24.176.204.87]) by femail4.sdc1.sfba.home.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.20 201-229-121-120-20010223) with ESMTP id <20010620155957.RCVV27712.femail4.sdc1.sfba.home.com@intruder.bmah.org>; Wed, 20 Jun 2001 08:59:57 -0700 Received: (from bmah@localhost) by intruder.bmah.org (8.11.3/8.11.3) id f5KFxuI28986; Wed, 20 Jun 2001 08:59:56 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from bmah) Message-Id: <200106201559.f5KFxuI28986@intruder.bmah.org> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.3.1 01/18/2001 with nmh-1.0.4 To: stuart nichols Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: 4-STABLE snapshots (was Re: releng4 no longer -STABLE???) In-Reply-To: References: Comments: In-reply-to stuart nichols message dated "Wed, 20 Jun 2001 10:26:35 -0500." From: "Bruce A. Mah" Reply-To: bmah@FreeBSD.ORG X-Face: g~c`.{#4q0"(V*b#g[i~rXgm*w;:nMfz%_RZLma)UgGN&=j`5vXoU^@n5v4:OO)c["!w)nD/!!~e4Sj7LiT'6*wZ83454H""lb{CC%T37O!!'S$S&D}sem7I[A 2V%N&+ X-Image-Url: http://www.employees.org/~bmah/Images/bmah-cisco-small.gif X-Url: http://www.employees.org/~bmah/ Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="==_Exmh_-1726685324P"; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2001 08:59:56 -0700 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG --==_Exmh_-1726685324P Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii If memory serves me right, stuart nichols wrote: > There have been no new -STABLE snapshots on releng4 > since jun 10. Did I miss some message that says it > was moved? www.freebsd.org still points to it as > the location of the -STABLE branch installs. No. I don't get the build logs for the snapshots, but right around this time, I recommended to jkh that he turn on documentation-building for the 4-STABLE snapshots so that we get the release notes built. This seemed pretty reasonable except that less than 24 hours later, the release notes for 4-STABLE broke due to some collateral damage from an I18N-related commit. I posted a "HEADS UP" message to -stable on 11 June describing the problem. I'm trying to fix this. I'm not sure if that's the reason for the "no new snapshots" problem, but it's my personal best guess. > The Jun 10 snapshot doesn't have any packages--the > link points off into space--and I found a message dated > May 28 on this list asking about what happened to the > packages, so they've been missing from there for a while. > No reply that I could find. Hmmm...I have no idea about this. > And no one seems to be mentioning any of this on this > list. Did somebody move the barn? No, no barn-moving. :-( As far as I know, the makeworld/installworld process for updating 4-STABLE from source still works, although for various unrelated reasons, I haven't tried this recently. Bruce. PS. In the future, you might try using less inflamatory subject lines. Just a suggestion. --==_Exmh_-1726685324P Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (FreeBSD) Comment: Exmh version 2.3.1+ 05/14/2001 iD8DBQE7MMh82MoxcVugUsMRAiskAJ9Jx1uHkehYv8hu92JzsEZRM9VZWACfd199 jVBSa6sduXS1W/pN0VwGptI= =uR7B -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --==_Exmh_-1726685324P-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Jun 20 9: 3:28 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from winston.osd.bsdi.com (adsl-64-173-15-98.dsl.sntc01.pacbell.net [64.173.15.98]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1F00937B401 for ; Wed, 20 Jun 2001 09:03:20 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jkh@osd.bsdi.com) Received: from localhost (jkh@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by winston.osd.bsdi.com (8.11.4/8.11.3) with ESMTP id f5KG2dt98207; Wed, 20 Jun 2001 09:02:39 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jkh@osd.bsdi.com) To: unstable@stac.state.tx.us Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: releng4 no longer -STABLE??? In-Reply-To: References: X-Mailer: Mew version 1.94.1 on Emacs 20.7 / Mule 4.0 (HANANOEN) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <20010620090239A.jkh@osd.bsdi.com> Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2001 09:02:39 -0700 From: Jordan Hubbard X-Dispatcher: imput version 20000228(IM140) Lines: 43 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG 10 days ago, Andrey broke the handbook builds in -stable through changing the doc collection. This makes the release build fall over. Bruce Mah has been working on it, but he's now hung up waiting for the CVS meisters to do some repo copies. And there things currently sit. - Jordan From: stuart nichols Subject: releng4 no longer -STABLE??? Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2001 10:26:35 -0500 (CDT) > There have been no new -STABLE snapshots on releng4 > since jun 10. Did I miss some message that says it > was moved? www.freebsd.org still points to it as > the location of the -STABLE branch installs. > > The Jun 10 snapshot doesn't have any packages--the > link points off into space--and I found a message dated > May 28 on this list asking about what happened to the > packages, so they've been missing from there for a while. > No reply that I could find. > > And no one seems to be mentioning any of this on this > list. Did somebody move the barn? > > -- > > stu > unstable@stac.state.tx.us > > Office: (512) 463-7601 > FAX: (512) 475-4759 > > stuart nichols > State Technology Assessment Center > Texas Department of Information Resources > 300 West 15th Street > Austin TX 78744 > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Jun 20 9: 6:57 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from femail1.sdc1.sfba.home.com (femail1.sdc1.sfba.home.com [24.0.95.81]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 44BDB37B401 for ; Wed, 20 Jun 2001 09:06:54 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from bmah@employees.org) Received: from intruder.bmah.org ([24.176.204.87]) by femail1.sdc1.sfba.home.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.20 201-229-121-120-20010223) with ESMTP id <20010620160653.ZNBV1335.femail1.sdc1.sfba.home.com@intruder.bmah.org>; Wed, 20 Jun 2001 09:06:53 -0700 Received: (from bmah@localhost) by intruder.bmah.org (8.11.3/8.11.3) id f5KG6rN29059; Wed, 20 Jun 2001 09:06:53 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from bmah) Message-Id: <200106201606.f5KG6rN29059@intruder.bmah.org> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.3.1 01/18/2001 with nmh-1.0.4 To: Paolo Pisati Cc: FreeBSD_Stable Subject: Re: Rebuilding docs In-Reply-To: <20010620000257.A1275@newluxor.skynet.org> References: <20010620000257.A1275@newluxor.skynet.org> Comments: In-reply-to Paolo Pisati message dated "Wed, 20 Jun 2001 00:02:57 +0200." From: "Bruce A. Mah" Reply-To: bmah@FreeBSD.ORG X-Face: g~c`.{#4q0"(V*b#g[i~rXgm*w;:nMfz%_RZLma)UgGN&=j`5vXoU^@n5v4:OO)c["!w)nD/!!~e4Sj7LiT'6*wZ83454H""lb{CC%T37O!!'S$S&D}sem7I[A 2V%N&+ X-Image-Url: http://www.employees.org/~bmah/Images/bmah-cisco-small.gif X-Url: http://www.employees.org/~bmah/ Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="==_Exmh_-1591500967P"; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2001 09:06:53 -0700 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG --==_Exmh_-1591500967P Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii If memory serves me right, Paolo Pisati wrote: > How is possible to obtain informations about the current status of > development in an easy way? > > Before the introduction of DOCSng (if I remember the name correctly), s/DOCS/RELNOTES/ > it took me 1 minute to see the difference between the release and the > stable branch: I had only to see the RELNOTES.TXT file and all was clear. > > But now? Probably the easiest thing for you to do is to read the release notes on the Web. Eventually, this will go on the FreeBSD Web site. For now, you can read them out of my test directory at: http://people.freebsd.org/~bmah/relnotes/ > How can I rebuild the documentation after every 'make update', or > is it possibile to generate automatically a file like > the old RELNOTEX after every update (using the new docs skeleton)? See src/release/doc/README for more information on generating the release documentation on your own system. We don't build the release notes automatically with each (for example) buildworld, because the release notes (and related documentation) depend on a lot of software that is not a part of the base system. Note that RELNOTESng is broken on RELENG_4 (see the HEADS UP message I posted to -stable about a week ago). I'll post another HEADS UP when it's fixed. Bruce. --==_Exmh_-1591500967P Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (FreeBSD) Comment: Exmh version 2.3.1+ 05/14/2001 iD8DBQE7MMod2MoxcVugUsMRAlqqAKDZpbmVrXhQIHWNe/pNBw4gOeaeZwCaAyUx 2EGQxKyhsgtyz0nHnKD2BIE= =dOPM -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --==_Exmh_-1591500967P-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Jun 20 9: 9:36 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from femail1.sdc1.sfba.home.com (femail1.sdc1.sfba.home.com [24.0.95.81]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B5E9637B40A; Wed, 20 Jun 2001 09:09:31 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from bmah@employees.org) Received: from intruder.bmah.org ([24.176.204.87]) by femail1.sdc1.sfba.home.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.20 201-229-121-120-20010223) with ESMTP id <20010620160931.ZQGA1335.femail1.sdc1.sfba.home.com@intruder.bmah.org>; Wed, 20 Jun 2001 09:09:31 -0700 Received: (from bmah@localhost) by intruder.bmah.org (8.11.3/8.11.3) id f5KG9Ud29130; Wed, 20 Jun 2001 09:09:30 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from bmah) Message-Id: <200106201609.f5KG9Ud29130@intruder.bmah.org> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.3.1 01/18/2001 with nmh-1.0.4 To: stuart nichols Cc: bmah@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: 4-STABLE snapshots (was Re: releng4 no longer -STABLE???) In-Reply-To: <200106201559.f5KFxuI28986@intruder.bmah.org> References: <200106201559.f5KFxuI28986@intruder.bmah.org> Comments: In-reply-to "Bruce A. Mah" message dated "Wed, 20 Jun 2001 08:59:56 -0700." From: "Bruce A. Mah" Reply-To: bmah@FreeBSD.ORG X-Face: g~c`.{#4q0"(V*b#g[i~rXgm*w;:nMfz%_RZLma)UgGN&=j`5vXoU^@n5v4:OO)c["!w)nD/!!~e4Sj7LiT'6*wZ83454H""lb{CC%T37O!!'S$S&D}sem7I[A 2V%N&+ X-Image-Url: http://www.employees.org/~bmah/Images/bmah-cisco-small.gif X-Url: http://www.employees.org/~bmah/ Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="==_Exmh_-1583528630P"; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2001 09:09:30 -0700 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG --==_Exmh_-1583528630P Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii I babbled: > PS. In the future, you might try using less inflamatory subject lines. > Just a suggestion. Sorry. What I meant by this is that various bikeshed discussions and flamewars have erupted over the topic of your subject line, even though that wasn't really what you were asking about. :-) Bruce. --==_Exmh_-1583528630P Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (FreeBSD) Comment: Exmh version 2.3.1+ 05/14/2001 iD8DBQE7MMq62MoxcVugUsMRAnGdAJ0QI59KVs5oJSy7lCRxXLim+kufBACgxzrV Qui35ZHnkClZpv2cb3BotV4= =fPV5 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --==_Exmh_-1583528630P-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Jun 20 9:53:32 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from hotmail.com (law2-f39.hotmail.com [216.32.181.39]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F255D37B443 for ; Wed, 20 Jun 2001 09:53:23 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kmays2000@hotmail.com) Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Wed, 20 Jun 2001 09:53:23 -0700 Received: from 139.76.65.132 by lw2fd.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Wed, 20 Jun 2001 16:53:23 GMT X-Originating-IP: [139.76.65.132] From: "Kenneth Mays" To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: releng4 no longer -STABLE??? Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2001 12:53:23 -0400 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/html Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 20 Jun 2001 16:53:23.0812 (UTC) FILETIME=[84BCAA40:01C0F9A9] Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG

Stable Team,

What is the last good stable snapshot on releng4 we can consider using for testing or production use?

Ken


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To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Jun 20 9:56:19 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from dataloss.net (massive.dataloss.net [212.189.232.193]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 1C41537B401 for ; Wed, 20 Jun 2001 09:56:15 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from peter@dataloss.net) Received: (qmail 56335 invoked by uid 1000); 20 Jun 2001 16:58:06 -0000 Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2001 18:58:06 +0200 From: Peter van Dijk To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: releng4 no longer -STABLE??? Message-ID: <20010620185806.X25709@dataloss.net> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: ; from kmays2000@hotmail.com on Wed, Jun 20, 2001 at 12:53:23PM -0400 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Wed, Jun 20, 2001 at 12:53:23PM -0400, Kenneth Mays wrote: Interesting message. No text/plain content at all. Try disabling HTML in your mailer. Greetz, Peter -- dataloss networks '/ignore-ance is bliss' - me 'Het leven is een stuiterbal, maar de mijne plakt aan t plafond!' - me Against Free Sex! http://www.dataloss.nl/Megahard_en.html To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Jun 20 10:13:18 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from freebie.xs4all.nl (freebie.xs4all.nl [213.84.32.253]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 93BBE37B406; Wed, 20 Jun 2001 10:13:15 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from wkb@freebie.xs4all.nl) Received: (from wkb@localhost) by freebie.xs4all.nl (8.11.3/8.11.3) id f5KHDEk55680; Wed, 20 Jun 2001 19:13:14 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wkb) Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2001 19:13:14 +0200 From: Wilko Bulte To: "Bruce A. Mah" Cc: Paolo Pisati , FreeBSD_Stable Subject: Re: Rebuilding docs Message-ID: <20010620191314.F55550@freebie.xs4all.nl> References: <20010620000257.A1275@newluxor.skynet.org> <200106201606.f5KG6rN29059@intruder.bmah.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <200106201606.f5KG6rN29059@intruder.bmah.org>; from bmah@FreeBSD.ORG on Wed, Jun 20, 2001 at 09:06:53AM -0700 X-OS: FreeBSD 4.3-STABLE X-PGP: finger wilko@freebsd.org Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Wed, Jun 20, 2001 at 09:06:53AM -0700, Bruce A. Mah wrote: > If memory serves me right, Paolo Pisati wrote: > > > How is possible to obtain informations about the current status of > > development in an easy way? > > > > Before the introduction of DOCSng (if I remember the name correctly), > > s/DOCS/RELNOTES/ My vote would be to s/RELNOTESng/RELEASEdocsng/ As there is quite a bit more than the Release Notes hiding in /usr/src/release/doc/ these days. And it is growing. W/ -- | / o / / _ Arnhem, The Netherlands email: wilko@FreeBSD.org |/|/ / / /( (_) Bulte http://www.FreeBSD.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Jun 20 10:20:48 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from ravel.n2.net (ravel.n2.net [207.113.132.20]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 42C5D37B407 for ; Wed, 20 Jun 2001 10:20:45 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from blovett@dilbert.bsdguru.com) Received: from dilbert.bsdguru.com (postfix@mental.n2.net [207.113.132.26]) by ravel.n2.net (8.11.2/8.11.2) with ESMTP id f5KHKig18991 for ; Wed, 20 Jun 2001 10:20:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: by dilbert.bsdguru.com (Postfix, from userid 1000) id CCEF53BE6; Wed, 20 Jun 2001 10:20:41 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2001 10:20:41 -0700 From: Ben Lovett To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD 4.3 on Inspiron 8000 Message-ID: <20010620102041.A4666@bsdguru.com> Mail-Followup-To: Ben Lovett , freebsd-stable@freebsd.org References: <3B30591A.81647FF1@polito.it> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: ; from doconnor@gsoft.com.au on Wed, Jun 20, 2001 at 05:41:30PM +0930 X-Organization: San Diego BSD Users Group [http://www.sdbug.org] X-Disclaimer: All things expressed here are my opinions only, and not those of any past, present or future employers. X-Operating-System: FreeBSD dilbert 4.3-STABLE X-Moon: The Moon is Waning Crescent (1% of Full) X-GPG-Key: http://www.oneinsane.net/~blovett/blovett.pgp X-GPG-Fingerprint: C75F A722 1518 03B8 26C3 77A1 7C76 8AFA EBAB 2004 X-Uptime: 10:14AM up 2:42, 4 users, load averages: 0.25, 0.08, 0.13 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I believe I saw Daniel O'Connor (doconnor@gsoft.com.au) write this: 8< ---- snip snip ---- >8 > > My machine: > > Inspiron 8000 > > > > Video: ATI Rage Mobility M4 (+32 M) > > Audio: ESS Maestro > > CD: Thoshiba DVD-ROM SD-C2402 > > Net: Xircon CardBus 10/100 + Modem 56K (RBEM56) > > > > Thanks in advance for your help (I'm a newbie of fBSD) > Technically, its an ESS Maestro3, so if you build your kernel without pcm support, and load snd_maestro3 at boot time, you'll be fine. > The DVD from is a known issue I think. DVD works fine in my Dell 8000, what BIOS revision do you have? If I recall properly, I have version A10, and I am assuming that Dell has fixed this issue, possibly without knowing it ;) I am also now able to suspend my laptop after using the builtin mini-pci nic (using the non-miibus code), and I do not have those nasty SCB timeouts that so many have described. Hope this helps you some! 8< ---- snip snip ---- >8 Hope this helps! -- -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Ben Lovett printf("Hello world!); blovett@bsdguru.com return 0; -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- There's no place like ~ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Jun 20 10:52:49 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from klima.physik.uni-mainz.de (klima.Physik.Uni-Mainz.DE [134.93.180.162]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1512C37B40A for ; Wed, 20 Jun 2001 10:52:42 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from administrator@klima.physik.uni-mainz.de) Received: from klima.Physik.Uni-Mainz.DE (administrator@klima.Physik.Uni-Mainz.DE [134.93.180.162]) by klima.physik.uni-mainz.de (8.11.4/8.11.4) with ESMTP id f5KHqIG87237; Wed, 20 Jun 2001 19:52:18 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from administrator@klima.physik.uni-mainz.de) Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2001 19:52:18 +0200 (CEST) From: Administrator IPA To: "David W. Chapman Jr." Cc: Chris Byrnes , Angshuman Dasgupta , Ken Menzel , Subject: Re: Microsoft uses FreeBSD In-Reply-To: <20010619104640.A539@leviathan.inethouston.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Tue, 19 Jun 2001, David W. Chapman Jr. wrote: And here also ... > On Tue, Jun 19, 2001 at 10:16:23AM -0500, Chris Byrnes wrote: > > On Tue, 19 Jun 2001, Angshuman Dasgupta wrote: > > > > > ... but the link is broken - possibly because the service is available > > > only to subscribers. it would be real nice if people didn't put this > > > kind of stuff (as it is, the traffic's heavy) on this forum. and if > > > they did - it would be appreciated if the links at least WORK... > > > > http://interactive.wsj.com/fr/emailthis/retrieve.cgi?id=SB992819157437237260.djm > > does work. Take your happy pill. > > > > > Works here too. > -- > David W. Chapman Jr. > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message > -- MfG O. Hartmann ohartman@klima.physik.uni-mainz.de ---------------------------------------------------------------- IT-Administration des Institut fuer Physik der Atmosphaere (IPA) ---------------------------------------------------------------- Johannes Gutenberg Universitaet Mainz Becherweg 21 55099 Mainz Tel: +496131/3924662 (Maschinensaal) Tel: +496131/3924144 FAX: +496131/3923532 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Jun 20 11: 5:52 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from smtp1.sentex.ca (smtp1.sentex.ca [199.212.134.4]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E57FF37B409; Wed, 20 Jun 2001 11:05:46 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mike@sentex.net) Received: from simoeon.sentex.net (simeon.sentex.ca [209.112.4.47]) by smtp1.sentex.ca (8.11.2/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f5KI5jb13826; Wed, 20 Jun 2001 14:05:45 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from mike@sentex.net) Message-Id: <5.1.0.14.0.20010620135628.0226f450@marble.sentex.ca> X-Sender: mdtpop@marble.sentex.ca X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2001 13:59:37 -0400 To: Robert , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG From: Mike Tancsa Subject: Re: Expiry Field Broken on ftp and ssh Cc: security@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <5.1.0.14.0.20010620111103.02676080@marble.sentex.ca> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG There looks to be a PR about this from 1995, but I dont think its all accurate as I dont see this problem on RELENG_3. Does anyone know off hand where this got broken ? I am cc'ing the security as this is a security issue no ? ---Mike At 11:23 AM 6/20/01 -0400, Mike Tancsa wrote: >Hmmm, it seems to be that way for some time now :-( A snapshot I have >from May 21st is similarly hosed. > >For telnet, it works, however, ssh and ftp lets the account in unhindered. > > ---Mike > > > >At 11:13 AM 6/20/01 -0400, Robert wrote: >>It seems as if the expiry field no longer "Expires" accounts. >> >>Does anyone know what has happened? >> >> >> >>To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org >>with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message > > >To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org >with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Jun 20 11:11:50 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from ptavv.es.net (ptavv.es.net [198.128.4.29]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0DC4A37B401 for ; Wed, 20 Jun 2001 11:11:47 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from oberman@ptavv.es.net) Received: from ptavv.es.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ptavv.es.net (8.10.1/8.10.1) with ESMTP id f5KIBZc11576; Wed, 20 Jun 2001 11:11:35 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <200106201811.f5KIBZc11576@ptavv.es.net> To: "David W. Chapman Jr." Cc: "Sam C. Zamarripa" , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Weird Traceroute/Ping In-reply-to: Your message of "Tue, 19 Jun 2001 22:30:45 CDT." <20010619223045.J6448@leviathan.inethouston.net> Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2001 11:11:35 -0700 From: "Kevin Oberman" Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG You are confusing the size of the pipe with it's length. Traceroute (or ping) tell you nothing about how "fast" you line is. By "fast" I mean bandwidth.) You are sending a very small number of very small packets. What they do measure is the length of the pipe as RTT which is a function of the propagation time across links, router delay (near zero with modern backbone routers) and congestion. cvsup7.freebsd.org is located in Seattle. The traceroute would indicate that the source of these packets is in Seattle and VERY close to the facility in Seattle where cvsup7 is located. But there is nothing there to provide any indication of bandwidth of the connection. To determine the effective bandwidth of a connection you need to know the lowest bandwidth of any link between you and the other end. pchar (in ports) is a pretty good way to look at this, although it can be misleading in some conditions. The other issue is the round trip time as determined by a ping using large packets. If you connection is Ethernet you probably want 1460 byte packets. For slow serial links you probably want 512 bytes. Another factor in performance IF the minimum bandwidth is large (> 3 Mbps) is window size. FreeBSD defaults to a rather small window size for wide area connections on fast links. I routinely up my window size to 64 KB. If you are on a dial-up, you probably don't want to do this! The maximum possible speed of a link is the smaller of the minimum bandwidth or window size in bits divided by the round trip time in seconds. Being very close to cvsup7 makes it a very good candidate for your purposes. The final issue is packet loss. A lossy line is very bad for performance as TCP will try to tune itself to the speed of the link and losses tend to upset this calculation. Send a lot of 500 byte pings to test this. DON'T USE FLOOD MODE! Writing a tool to study this is certainly possible, but non-trivial. And congestion that causes long delays or losses at one time may be transient, so the best server my change frequently. R. Kevin Oberman, Network Engineer Energy Sciences Network (ESnet) Ernest O. Lawrence Berkeley National Laboratory (Berkeley Lab) E-mail: oberman@es.net Phone: +1 510 486-8634 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Jun 20 12:36:49 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from clmboh1-smtp3.columbus.rr.com (clmboh1-smtp3.columbus.rr.com [65.24.0.112]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EF61137B401 for ; Wed, 20 Jun 2001 12:36:45 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from wmoran@iowna.com) Received: from iowna.com (dhcp065-024-023-038.columbus.rr.com [65.24.23.38]) by clmboh1-smtp3.columbus.rr.com (8.11.2/8.11.2) with ESMTP id f5KJXQs21767; Wed, 20 Jun 2001 15:33:27 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <3B30FB16.F5F76E74@iowna.com> Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2001 15:35:50 -0400 From: Bill Moran X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.76 [en] (X11; U; FreeBSD 4.3-STABLE i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Kenneth Mays Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: releng4 no longer -STABLE??? References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Kenneth Mays wrote: > > Stable Team, > > What is the last good stable snapshot on releng4 we can consider using > for testing or production use? I don't know what the "last" good stable is, but I'm running a system cvsupped from May 6 (wow ... that's getting old for me ...) and it's been rock-solid. I've been waiting while some stuff settles down before rebuilding right now. -Bill -- If a bird in the hand is worth two in the bush, then what can I get for two hands in the bush? To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Jun 20 13:24: 0 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from ler-freebie.iadfw.net (ler-freebie.iadfw.net [206.66.13.221]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9714837B403 for ; Wed, 20 Jun 2001 13:23:56 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ler@ler-freebie.iadfw.net) Received: (from ler@localhost) by ler-freebie.iadfw.net (8.11.4/8.11.3) id f5KKNmV07860; Wed, 20 Jun 2001 15:23:48 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from ler) Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2001 15:23:48 -0500 From: Larry Rosenman To: Mike Meyer Cc: Kal Torak , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: STAROFFICE Broke? Message-ID: <20010620152348.A7851@ler-freebie.iadfw.net> References: <20010614094201.A5070@lerami.lerctr.org> <3B28CF25.BADC984D@quake.com.au> <20010614095121.A7785@ler-freebie.iadfw.net> <15144.53428.793574.696095@guru.mired.org> <20010614101611.A8061@ler-freebie.iadfw.net> <15144.54683.266309.376223@guru.mired.org> <20010614152253.A27055@ler-freebie.iadfw.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20010614152253.A27055@ler-freebie.iadfw.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.19i X-Mailer: Mutt http://www.mutt.org/ Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Interestingly, a REINSTALL of SO 5.2 from ports seemed to fix it, after I mv'd all the old stuff away. This is really wierd.. LER * Larry Rosenman [010614 15:29]: > > * Mike Meyer [010614 10:19]: > > > > Larry Rosenman types: > > > On Thu, Jun 14, 2001 at 09:56:52AM -0500, Mike Meyer wrote: > > > > Larry Rosenman types: > > > > > On Fri, Jun 15, 2001 at 12:50:13AM +1000, Kal Torak wrote: > > > > > > Strange it was working fine after I cvsup'd about ~1 week ago... > > > > > Ok, so somewhere between ~1 week ago and yesterday.... Hmm. > > > > > I just checked, and my last BuildWorld was 4Jun2001... > > > > > > > > Seems to start for me on a 10Jun2001 build. I don't normally use it, > > > > so I can't say much beyond "it starts". > > > Does it actually display it's screen? I just get the splash screen... > > > > Yup, it opens it's big window, and displays the icons in it. > I opened a PR about it... > > KERN/28152 > > LER > > > > > -- > > Mike Meyer http://www.mired.org/home/mwm/ > > Independent WWW/Perforce/FreeBSD/Unix consultant, email for more information. > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Jun 20 13:43:19 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from femail4.sdc1.sfba.home.com (femail4.sdc1.sfba.home.com [24.0.95.84]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7315437B401 for ; Wed, 20 Jun 2001 13:43:16 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from bmah@employees.org) Received: from intruder.bmah.org ([24.176.204.87]) by femail4.sdc1.sfba.home.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.20 201-229-121-120-20010223) with ESMTP id <20010620204306.CHNQ27712.femail4.sdc1.sfba.home.com@intruder.bmah.org>; Wed, 20 Jun 2001 13:43:06 -0700 Received: (from bmah@localhost) by intruder.bmah.org (8.11.3/8.11.3) id f5KKh5e31524; Wed, 20 Jun 2001 13:43:05 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from bmah) Message-Id: <200106202043.f5KKh5e31524@intruder.bmah.org> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.3.1 01/18/2001 with nmh-1.0.4 To: "Kevin Oberman" Cc: "David W. Chapman Jr." , "Sam C. Zamarripa" , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Weird Traceroute/Ping In-Reply-To: <200106201811.f5KIBZc11576@ptavv.es.net> References: <200106201811.f5KIBZc11576@ptavv.es.net> Comments: In-reply-to "Kevin Oberman" message dated "Wed, 20 Jun 2001 11:11:35 -0700." From: "Bruce A. Mah" Reply-To: bmah@FreeBSD.ORG X-Face: g~c`.{#4q0"(V*b#g[i~rXgm*w;:nMfz%_RZLma)UgGN&=j`5vXoU^@n5v4:OO)c["!w)nD/!!~e4Sj7LiT'6*wZ83454H""lb{CC%T37O!!'S$S&D}sem7I[A 2V%N&+ X-Image-Url: http://www.employees.org/~bmah/Images/bmah-cisco-small.gif X-Url: http://www.employees.org/~bmah/ Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="==_Exmh_-335152755P"; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2001 13:43:05 -0700 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG --==_Exmh_-335152755P Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii If memory serves me right, "Kevin Oberman" wrote: > To determine the effective bandwidth of a connection you need to know > the lowest bandwidth of any link between you and the other end. pchar > (in ports) is a pretty good way to look at this, although it can be > misleading in some conditions. (I'm pretty sure Kevin knows this, but for everyone else, I'm the guy who wrote pchar.) Yes, pchar has some problems trying to measure some types of links. The most recent version (1.4) tries to address some of these problems, but it's still hard to measure subnets several hops away with unknown L2 topologies. Happily, if I understand the current issue (sorry, came into the middle of the thread), you don't need anything as detailed as pchar. Another tool called pathrate does a nice job of measuring the capacity of a path between two hops; while it doesn't try to measure individual hops, it uses a different methodology that doesn't suffer some of the problems of pchar. It's home page is: http://www.cis.udel.edu/~dovrolis/bwmeter.html pathrate isn't in the ports collection; I was thinking of doing a skeleton for it once it settles down a bit; current version I have is 2.0.3. Cheers, Bruce. --==_Exmh_-335152755P Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (FreeBSD) Comment: Exmh version 2.3.1+ 05/14/2001 iD8DBQE7MQrZ2MoxcVugUsMRAnPbAKDIABEuTLGThBWytV+XRG2zECyAwwCfbegf aWq82VyvlfiuLliZIPrRFRE= =pFeH -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --==_Exmh_-335152755P-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Jun 20 13:50:33 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from pt-quorum.com (pt-quorum.com [209.10.167.210]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 52C5737B403 for ; Wed, 20 Jun 2001 13:50:26 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nuno.mailinglists@pt-quorum.com) Received: from p165-237.netc.pt ([213.30.47.165]) by pt-quorum.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id VAA24697 for ; Wed, 20 Jun 2001 21:43:40 +0100 Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2001 21:53:09 +0100 (WEST) From: Nuno Teixeira To: Subject: Last cvsup: openssl broken? Message-ID: <20010620214741.W348-100000@gateway.bogus> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8BIT Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hello to all, I've cvsuped my system today. I make buildworld, make kernel, etc, with no problems. I noted that fetchmail gives a signal 11 (core dumped). When I change the .fetchmailrc to fetch mail without SSL then it work ok. I have the same problem with SSH. Maybe a OpenSSL problem or anything else that this too programs use? Thanks, -- Nuno Teixeira Dir. Técnico pt-quorum.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Jun 20 13:59: 0 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from klima.physik.uni-mainz.de (klima.Physik.Uni-Mainz.DE [134.93.180.162]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0276D37B401; Wed, 20 Jun 2001 13:58:51 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ohartman@klima.physik.uni-mainz.de) Received: from klima.Physik.Uni-Mainz.DE (Sturm@klima.Physik.Uni-Mainz.DE [134.93.180.162]) by klima.physik.uni-mainz.de (8.11.4/8.11.4) with ESMTP id f5KKwoG90459; Wed, 20 Jun 2001 22:58:50 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from ohartman@klima.physik.uni-mainz.de) Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2001 22:58:49 +0200 (CEST) From: "Hartmann, O." To: Cc: Subject: Strange mouse bahviour in FBSD 4.3 and XFree86 4.1.0 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Dear Sirs. I posted here several postings about a problem with one of our FBSD 4.3-STABLE boxes. This machine has been cvsupdated today, XFRee864.1.0_4 has been installed several days ago (by a fresh compilation). One of the earlier problems is the following: I can not shutdown this machine by being remotely loged in using shutdown -r now. I always have to use shutdown -r -o now to do the task. On all other maschines that works! The machine I speak about is a AMD K7 800 MHz based on ASUS A7V PCB and IBM DTLA 307030. The videoadaptor is a ELSA Erazor III Pro. See the following dmesg-output . The new problem is hard to describe. It seems one way like a hardware fault, but another way the fault of some FBSD subsystems. Description: Using /dev/sysmouse and moused as the basic mouse system, we have a Logitech optical USB port mouse attached to this machine. The USB mouse is connected to a HUB located at a Iiyama 18 inch LCD screen (bit that doesn't matter, I tried the USB port directly or a PS/2 mouse with the same effect). On the X11 screen, the mouse rushes uncontrollable over the screen, jumping, shivers around, not reacting on pressed buttons. It looks like having used the wrong protocol with earlier XFree types. But there is no misconfiguration, this configuration worked since approximately I switched over to XFree86 4.1.0 and/or did a cvsupdate. When leaving the X-session, Xserver drops a core, reporting something about an illegal instruction after resetting the mouese! When in terminal mode (no X), the mouse shivers and jumps also uncontroleable on the screen. I exchanged the mouese with a simple PS/2 mouse and sometimes I have a pointer, sometimes not (using sysmouse/moused). In X11 the phenomenon of a jumping and rushing mouse is not as obvious as with the USB type, but it is also faulty. The mouse disappears or is unuseable. The kernel reports a mouse at psm0, but in X (chooser) there is no access/movement of it. Sometimes, while having luck moving it around, it seems to drop spontanously "button presses" around. This machine is without graphical device or mouse accessible and works perfect. I can use it remotely without problems. It seems really to be related to something like sysmouse/moused/mouse/XFree86 or FreeBSD's driver for the mouse system. Does anyone heared about such strange things due a bug of FreeBSD/XFree86 4.1.0? If not, this really seems to be a massive hardware related problem. On the other hand: We have a lot of self-made X11 Terminals around here for our students, based on a DFI AK74EC main PCB, Duron 700, Gigabyte GA660+ video board, using Logitech 3 button PS/2 mice. They are cvsupdated 7 days ago, XFree86 4.1.0 has been build several days ago. These diskless booting terminals do not show any kind of disruption of mouse access or movement ... -- MfG O. Hartmann ohartman@klima.physik.uni-mainz.de ---------------------------------------------------------------- IT-Administration des Institut fuer Physik der Atmosphaere (IPA) ---------------------------------------------------------------- Johannes Gutenberg Universitaet Mainz Becherweg 21 55099 Mainz Tel: +496131/3924662 (Maschinensaal) Tel: +496131/3924144 FAX: +496131/3923532 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Jun 20 14: 7:30 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from smtp.bmi.net (smtp.bmi.net [204.57.191.31]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 538BC37B403; Wed, 20 Jun 2001 14:07:20 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jmcoopr@webmail.bmi.net) Received: from smtp.bmi.net (dsl-154.bmi.net [207.173.60.230]) by smtp.bmi.net (Pro-8.9.3/Pro-8.9.3) with SMTP id OAA08838; Wed, 20 Jun 2001 14:07:14 -0700 Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2001 14:07:18 -0700 From: John Merryweather Cooper To: "Hartmann, O." Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Strange mouse bahviour in FBSD 4.3 and XFree86 4.1.0 Message-ID: <20010620140718.G14541@johncoop> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: ; from ohartman@klima.physik.uni-mainz.de on Wed, Jun 20, 2001 at 13:58:49 -0700 X-Mailer: Balsa 1.1.4 Lines: 104 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On 2001.06.20 13:58 "Hartmann, O." wrote: > Dear Sirs. > > I posted here several postings about a problem with one of our > FBSD 4.3-STABLE boxes. This machine has been cvsupdated today, > XFRee864.1.0_4 has been installed several days ago (by a fresh > compilation). > > One of the earlier problems is the following: > > I can not shutdown this machine by being remotely loged in > using shutdown -r now. I always have to use shutdown -r -o now > to do the task. On all other maschines that works! > > The machine I speak about is a AMD K7 800 MHz based on ASUS A7V > PCB and IBM DTLA 307030. The videoadaptor is a ELSA Erazor III Pro. > See the following dmesg-output . > > The new problem is hard to describe. It seems one way like a hardware > fault, but another way the fault of some FBSD subsystems. > > Description: > > Using /dev/sysmouse and moused as the basic mouse system, we have a > Logitech optical USB port mouse attached to this machine. The USB > mouse is connected to a HUB located at a Iiyama 18 inch LCD screen > (bit that doesn't matter, I tried the USB port directly or a PS/2 > mouse with the same effect). > On the X11 screen, the mouse rushes uncontrollable over the screen, > jumping, shivers around, not reacting on pressed buttons. It looks > like having used the wrong protocol with earlier XFree types. But there > is no misconfiguration, this configuration worked since approximately I > switched over to XFree86 4.1.0 and/or did a cvsupdate. > When leaving the X-session, Xserver drops a core, reporting something > about an > illegal instruction after resetting the mouese! > When in terminal mode (no X), the mouse shivers and jumps also > uncontroleable > on the screen. I exchanged the mouese with a simple PS/2 mouse and > sometimes > I have a pointer, sometimes not (using sysmouse/moused). In X11 the > phenomenon > of a jumping and rushing mouse is not as obvious as with the USB type, > but it > is also faulty. The mouse disappears or is unuseable. The kernel reports > a mouse > at psm0, but in X (chooser) there is no access/movement of it. Sometimes, > while > having luck moving it around, it seems to drop spontanously "button > presses" > around. > > This machine is without graphical device or mouse accessible and works > perfect. > I can use it remotely without problems. It seems really to be related to > something > like sysmouse/moused/mouse/XFree86 or FreeBSD's driver for the mouse > system. > > Does anyone heared about such strange things due a bug of FreeBSD/XFree86 > 4.1.0? > If not, this really seems to be a massive hardware related problem. > > On the other hand: > > We have a lot of self-made X11 Terminals around here for our students, > based > on a DFI AK74EC main PCB, Duron 700, Gigabyte GA660+ video board, using > Logitech > 3 button PS/2 mice. They are cvsupdated 7 days ago, XFree86 4.1.0 has > been build > several days ago. These diskless booting terminals do not show any kind > of disruption > of mouse access or movement ... > -- > MfG > O. Hartmann > > ohartman@klima.physik.uni-mainz.de > ---------------------------------------------------------------- > IT-Administration des Institut fuer Physik der Atmosphaere (IPA) > ---------------------------------------------------------------- > Johannes Gutenberg Universitaet Mainz > Becherweg 21 > 55099 Mainz > > Tel: +496131/3924662 (Maschinensaal) > Tel: +496131/3924144 > FAX: +496131/3923532 > > I have had similar, but less severe, experiences recently with my mouse--a Logitech MouseMan+. I don't get the illegal instruction error as above (but this maybe because I use "startx" and OH uses "xdm"?) But the erratic mouse cursor and the dropping of random clicks makes XFree86-4 operation somewhat more painful than I'd like at the moment. My configuration: Adapter: Diamond Mutlimedia Viper 770 Ultra (nVidia TNT2 Ultra with 32 megs) Mouse: Logitech MouseMan+ connected to PS/2 port jmc To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Jun 20 14:15:57 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from klima.physik.uni-mainz.de (klima.Physik.Uni-Mainz.DE [134.93.180.162]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 97EED37B406; Wed, 20 Jun 2001 14:15:34 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ohartman@klima.physik.uni-mainz.de) Received: from klima.Physik.Uni-Mainz.DE (Sturm@klima.Physik.Uni-Mainz.DE [134.93.180.162]) by klima.physik.uni-mainz.de (8.11.4/8.11.4) with ESMTP id f5KLFSG91193; Wed, 20 Jun 2001 23:15:28 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from ohartman@klima.physik.uni-mainz.de) Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2001 23:15:28 +0200 (CEST) From: "Hartmann, O." To: John Merryweather Cooper Cc: , Subject: Re: Strange mouse bahviour in FBSD 4.3 and XFree86 4.1.0 In-Reply-To: <20010620140718.G14541@johncoop> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Wed, 20 Jun 2001, John Merryweather Cooper wrote: Sorry, forgot the dmesg output: Copyright (c) 1992-2001 The FreeBSD Project. Copyright (c) 1979, 1980, 1983, 1986, 1988, 1989, 1991, 1992, 1993, 1994 The Regents of the University of California. All rights reserved. FreeBSD 4.3-STABLE #81: Wed Jun 20 21:33:40 CEST 2001 root@wetter.physik.uni-mainz.de:/usr/local/obj/usr/src/sys/WETTER Timecounter "i8254" frequency 1193182 Hz CPU: AMD Athlon(tm) Processor (807.19-MHz 686-class CPU) Origin = "AuthenticAMD" Id = 0x642 Stepping = 2 Features=0x183f9ff AMD Features=0xc0440000<,AMIE,DSP,3DNow!> real memory = 268353536 (262064K bytes) avail memory = 257400832 (251368K bytes) Preloaded elf kernel "kernel" at 0xc039b000. Preloaded elf module "agp.ko" at 0xc039b09c. Pentium Pro MTRR support enabled apm0: on motherboard apm: found APM BIOS v1.2, connected at v1.2 npx0: on motherboard npx0: INT 16 interface pcib0: on motherboard pci0: on pcib0 agp0: mem 0xe4000000-0xe7ffffff at device 0.0 on pci0 pcib2: at device 1.0 on pci0 pci1: on pcib2 pci1: at 0.0 irq 11 isab0: at device 4.0 on pci0 isa0: on isab0 atapci0: port 0xd800-0xd80f at device 4.1 on pci0 ata1: at 0x170 irq 15 on atapci0 uhci0: port 0xd400-0xd41f irq 5 at device 4.2 on pci0 usb0: on uhci0 usb0: USB revision 1.0 uhub0: VIA UHCI root hub, class 9/0, rev 1.00/1.00, addr 1 uhub0: 2 ports with 2 removable, self powered uhci1: port 0xd000-0xd01f irq 5 at device 4.3 on pci0 usb1: on uhci1 usb1: USB revision 1.0 uhub1: VIA UHCI root hub, class 9/0, rev 1.00/1.00, addr 1 uhub1: 2 ports with 2 removable, self powered uhub2: ALCOR Generic USB Hub, class 9/0, rev 1.10/1.00, addr 2 uhub2: 4 ports with 4 removable, self powered fxp0: port 0xa400-0xa43f mem 0xdf000000-0xdf0fffff,0xdf800000-0xdf800fff irq 10 at device 11.0 on pci0 fxp0: Ethernet address 00:02:b3:17:99:90 inphy0: on miibus0 inphy0: 10baseT, 10baseT-FDX, 100baseTX, 100baseTX-FDX, auto atapci1: port 0x8800-0x883f,0x9000-0x9003,0x9400-0x9407,0x9800-0x9803,0xa000-0xa007 mem 0xde800000-0xde81ffff irq 10 at device 17.0 on pci0 ata2: at 0xa000 on atapci1 pcib1: on motherboard pci2: on pcib1 orm0:

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To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Jun 21 0:13:59 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from ns.itga.com.au (ns.itga.com.au [202.53.40.210]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EB3E537B408 for ; Thu, 21 Jun 2001 00:13:54 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnb@itga.com.au) Received: from lightning.itga.com.au (lightning.itga.com.au [192.168.71.20]) by ns.itga.com.au (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA65417; Thu, 21 Jun 2001 17:13:41 +1000 (EST) (envelope-from gnb@itga.com.au) Received: from itga.com.au (lightning.itga.com.au [192.168.71.20]) by lightning.itga.com.au (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA10366; Thu, 21 Jun 2001 17:12:25 +1000 (EST) Message-Id: <200106210712.RAA10366@lightning.itga.com.au> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.4 05/15/2001 with nmh-1.0.4 From: Gregory Bond To: jlschwab Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: 4.3-S cvsup fail? In-reply-to: Your message of Thu, 21 Jun 2001 00:41:13 -0400. Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2001 17:12:25 +1000 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > Writing Makefile for DynaLoader > ==> Your Makefile has been rebuilt. <== > ==> Please rerun the make command. <== This is almost always because the date on the build machine is set in the past. Fix the date and start again. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Jun 21 0:26:15 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from z1.generalresources.com (h3.generalresources.com [211.21.66.252]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4E5B237B403 for ; Thu, 21 Jun 2001 00:26:12 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from hsw@acm.org) Received: from server.tucheng.generalresources.com (z42.generalresources.com [210.242.169.42]) by z1.generalresources.com (8.11.4/8.11.4) with ESMTP id f5L7k5c23072 for ; Thu, 21 Jun 2001 15:46:18 +0800 (CST) (envelope-from hsw@acm.org) Received: from x4.tucheng.generalresources.com (x4.tucheng.generalresources.com [192.168.2.4]) by server.tucheng.generalresources.com (8.11.3/8.11.3) with ESMTP id f5L7Q7I19831 for ; Thu, 21 Jun 2001 15:26:07 +0800 (CST) (envelope-from hsw@acm.org) Received: from x4.tucheng.generalresources.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by x4.tucheng.generalresources.com (8.11.4/8.11.3) with ESMTP id f5L7Q4o84210 for ; Thu, 21 Jun 2001 15:26:05 +0800 (CST) (envelope-from hsw@acm.org) Message-Id: <200106210726.f5L7Q4o84210@x4.tucheng.generalresources.com> To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Reply-To: Christopher Hall From: Christopher Hall Subject: AC97 sound codecs X-Operating-System: FreeBSD X-Mailer: Exmh Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2001 15:26:04 +0800 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Is the AC97 sound system supported on on -stable. I tried two motherboards: 1. i815E/Celeron motherboard, AD1885 codec 2. SiS 730S/Duron Motherboard, ALC200 codec First tried kldload each sound driver and send data to /dev/dsp Second tried a kernel with device pcm Neither of these tests worked. just get "/dev/dsp: Device not configured." I found that in sys/dev/sound/pcm/ac97.c has a list of AC97 codecs and should print a messge for the codec. I just get a "unknown card" message from boot -v The BIOS listed same ID numbers as "Multmedia Device" There were no ac97 related messages in the boot -v listing. The sound driver file for -current shows both these codecs (and others) Will the updated sound driver be ported to -stable? --- Christopher Hall Fax: +886-2-2795-3030 Christopher Hall Phone: +886-2-2795-5799 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Jun 21 0:59:55 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from gekko.i-clue.de (server.ms-agentur.de [62.153.134.194]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 092D337B409 for ; Thu, 21 Jun 2001 00:59:52 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from so@server.i-clue.de) Received: from i-clue.de (automatix.i-clue.de [192.168.0.112]) by gekko.i-clue.de (8.9.3/8.9.3/SuSE Linux 8.9.3-0.1) with ESMTP id KAA22727; Thu, 21 Jun 2001 10:08:43 +0200 Message-ID: <3B31A9F3.627E590@i-clue.de> Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2001 10:01:55 +0200 From: Christoph Sold Reply-To: stable@FreeBSD.org X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.75 [de] (WinNT; U) X-Accept-Language: de MIME-Version: 1.0 To: stable@FreeBSD.org Subject: sendmail: Cannot exec /bin/mail Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On my Stable box built yesterday, sendmail won't do its job: Jun 21 09:45:13 msgate sendmail[2093]: f5L5Quj01649: SYSERR(root): Cannot exec / bin/mail: No such file or directory FreeBSD msgate.ms-agentur.de 4.3-STABLE FreeBSD 4.3-STABLE #0: Wed Jun 20 12:04: 38 CEST 2001 root@msgate.ms-agentur.de:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/MSGATE i386 Looking through /etc/mail/sendmail.cf, /bin/mail is mentioned as local delivery agent. "which mail" locates /usr/bin/mail instead. Fixing the path in sendmail.cf and HUPing sendmail, sendmail moans about "unknown mailer error 1" when trying to clear the queue. Where should the path be fixed? Sending a PR can be difficult, since send-pr also tries to use the nonfunctional sendmail :/ Thanks for your assistance -Christoph Sold To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Jun 21 1:19:31 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from whale.sunbay.crimea.ua (whale.sunbay.crimea.ua [212.110.138.65]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9DFA537B403 for ; Thu, 21 Jun 2001 01:19:22 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ru@whale.sunbay.crimea.ua) Received: (from ru@localhost) by whale.sunbay.crimea.ua (8.11.2/8.11.2) id f5L8JKC16716 for stable@FreeBSD.ORG; Thu, 21 Jun 2001 11:19:20 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from ru) Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2001 11:19:19 +0300 From: Ruslan Ermilov To: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: sendmail: Cannot exec /bin/mail Message-ID: <20010621111919.J3591@sunbay.com> Mail-Followup-To: stable@FreeBSD.ORG References: <3B31A9F3.627E590@i-clue.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <3B31A9F3.627E590@i-clue.de>; from so@server.i-clue.de on Thu, Jun 21, 2001 at 10:01:55AM +0200 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG It should be /usr/libexec/mail.local. On Thu, Jun 21, 2001 at 10:01:55AM +0200, Christoph Sold wrote: > On my Stable box built yesterday, sendmail won't do its job: > > Jun 21 09:45:13 msgate sendmail[2093]: f5L5Quj01649: SYSERR(root): > Cannot exec / > bin/mail: No such file or directory > > FreeBSD msgate.ms-agentur.de 4.3-STABLE FreeBSD 4.3-STABLE #0: Wed Jun > 20 12:04: > 38 CEST 2001 root@msgate.ms-agentur.de:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/MSGATE > i386 > > Looking through /etc/mail/sendmail.cf, /bin/mail is mentioned as local > delivery agent. "which mail" locates /usr/bin/mail instead. Fixing the > path in sendmail.cf and HUPing sendmail, sendmail moans about "unknown > mailer error 1" when trying to clear the queue. > > Where should the path be fixed? Sending a PR can be difficult, since > send-pr also tries to use the nonfunctional sendmail :/ -- Ruslan Ermilov Oracle Developer/DBA, ru@sunbay.com Sunbay Software AG, ru@FreeBSD.org FreeBSD committer, +380.652.512.251 Simferopol, Ukraine http://www.FreeBSD.org The Power To Serve http://www.oracle.com Enabling The Information Age To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Jun 21 3: 6: 8 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from gekko.i-clue.de (server.ms-agentur.de [62.153.134.194]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4771C37B403; Thu, 21 Jun 2001 03:06:00 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from so@server.i-clue.de) Received: from i-clue.de (automatix.i-clue.de [192.168.0.112]) by gekko.i-clue.de (8.9.3/8.9.3/SuSE Linux 8.9.3-0.1) with ESMTP id MAA23685; Thu, 21 Jun 2001 12:14:51 +0200 Message-ID: <3B31C783.CB968776@i-clue.de> Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2001 12:08:03 +0200 From: Christoph Sold Reply-To: so@server.i-clue.de X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.75 [de] (WinNT; U) X-Accept-Language: de MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Ruslan Ermilov Cc: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: sendmail: Cannot exec /bin/mail References: <3B31A9F3.627E590@i-clue.de> <20010621111919.J3591@sunbay.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Fixed, thanks. The problem was /etc/mail/Makefile does not know how to build .cf if it is missing. Seems to be a problem with the Makefile. -Christoph Sold Ruslan Ermilov schrieb: > > It should be /usr/libexec/mail.local. > > On Thu, Jun 21, 2001 at 10:01:55AM +0200, Christoph Sold wrote: > > On my Stable box built yesterday, sendmail won't do its job: > > > > Jun 21 09:45:13 msgate sendmail[2093]: f5L5Quj01649: SYSERR(root): > > Cannot exec / > > bin/mail: No such file or directory > > > > FreeBSD msgate.ms-agentur.de 4.3-STABLE FreeBSD 4.3-STABLE #0: Wed Jun > > 20 12:04: > > 38 CEST 2001 root@msgate.ms-agentur.de:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/MSGATE > > i386 > > > > Looking through /etc/mail/sendmail.cf, /bin/mail is mentioned as local > > delivery agent. "which mail" locates /usr/bin/mail instead. Fixing the > > path in sendmail.cf and HUPing sendmail, sendmail moans about "unknown > > mailer error 1" when trying to clear the queue. > > > > Where should the path be fixed? Sending a PR can be difficult, since > > send-pr also tries to use the nonfunctional sendmail :/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Jun 21 3:13: 6 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from gekko.i-clue.de (server.ms-agentur.de [62.153.134.194]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 95D2937B406 for ; Thu, 21 Jun 2001 03:13:01 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from so@server.i-clue.de) Received: from i-clue.de (automatix.i-clue.de [192.168.0.112]) by gekko.i-clue.de (8.9.3/8.9.3/SuSE Linux 8.9.3-0.1) with ESMTP id MAA23757; Thu, 21 Jun 2001 12:21:44 +0200 Message-ID: <3B31C91F.E330179E@i-clue.de> Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2001 12:14:55 +0200 From: Christoph Sold Reply-To: so@server.i-clue.de X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.75 [de] (WinNT; U) X-Accept-Language: de MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Nuno Teixeira Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Staying *really stable* in FreeBSD References: <20010620232046.P486-100000@gateway.bogus> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Nuno Teixeira schrieb: > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA1 > > Hello, > > I have been follow the discussion about RELEASE, STABLE, CURRENT and > security patches for a particular release. > > Resuming: RELEASE and STABLE are develoment branches. > > In the handbook related to STABLE: «but we do occasionally make > mistakes», so the best whay to stay really STABLE is do something like: > > cvsup to the last release RELENG_4_3_0_RELEASE and then cvsup all the > times to RELENG_4_3 to receive security and critical fixes only. > > Am I right? Yes. > When the RELEASE 4.4(?) is out, then I should repeat the example above to: > > RELENG_4_4_0_RELEASE > and then stay in > RELENG_4_4 > > Am I right? As I understand, you just have to cvsup to RELENG_4_4 -- the very first tag with this name will be the release. > For what I read in this mailing list related to the naming version, is > that the name STABLE make confusion some times (like in this particular > case). Well, staying stable may sometimes be adventurous (see the docs tree at this time), but overall, I never had any problems with it -- given I install on machines out of production, test them, then move them into production and never touch them until moved out of production again. Just my EUR.02 -Christoph Sold To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Jun 21 3:22:41 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from gekko.i-clue.de (server.ms-agentur.de [62.153.134.194]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4641537B403 for ; Thu, 21 Jun 2001 03:22:36 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from so@server.i-clue.de) Received: from i-clue.de (automatix.i-clue.de [192.168.0.112]) by gekko.i-clue.de (8.9.3/8.9.3/SuSE Linux 8.9.3-0.1) with ESMTP id MAA23840; Thu, 21 Jun 2001 12:30:01 +0200 Message-ID: <3B31CB11.C56D452C@i-clue.de> Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2001 12:23:13 +0200 From: Christoph Sold Reply-To: so@server.i-clue.de X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.75 [de] (WinNT; U) X-Accept-Language: de MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Administrator IPA Cc: "David W. Chapman Jr." , Chris Byrnes , Angshuman Dasgupta , Ken Menzel , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Microsoft uses FreeBSD References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Just for the record: Microsoft sells GPL'ed tools. See http://www.microsoft.com/windows2000/interix/default.asp The feature list starts with KornShell, C Shell and Bourne Shell with full job control Over 300 utilities, including scripting tools such as awk, sed, perl, Tcl/Tk Berkeley Software Design (BSD) sockets mapped to Winsock Have fun -Christoph Sold (Source: A German language article at Heise Online: http://www.heise.de/newsticker/data/odi-21.06.01-000/ ) Administrator IPA schrieb: > > On Tue, 19 Jun 2001, David W. Chapman Jr. wrote: > > And here also ... > > > On Tue, Jun 19, 2001 at 10:16:23AM -0500, Chris Byrnes wrote: > > > On Tue, 19 Jun 2001, Angshuman Dasgupta wrote: > > > > > > > ... but the link is broken - possibly because the service is available > > > > only to subscribers. it would be real nice if people didn't put this > > > > kind of stuff (as it is, the traffic's heavy) on this forum. and if > > > > they did - it would be appreciated if the links at least WORK... > > > > > > http://interactive.wsj.com/fr/emailthis/retrieve.cgi?id=SB992819157437237260.djm > > > does work. Take your happy pill. > > > > > > > > Works here too. > > -- > > David W. Chapman Jr. > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message > > > > -- > MfG > O. Hartmann > > ohartman@klima.physik.uni-mainz.de > ---------------------------------------------------------------- > IT-Administration des Institut fuer Physik der Atmosphaere (IPA) > ---------------------------------------------------------------- > Johannes Gutenberg Universitaet Mainz > Becherweg 21 > 55099 Mainz > > Tel: +496131/3924662 (Maschinensaal) > Tel: +496131/3924144 > FAX: +496131/3923532 > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message -- Freundliche Grüße aus Waiblingen Christoph Sold -- Systemadministrator, i-clue GmbH, Endersbacher Str. 57, 71334 Waiblingen Fon: (0 71 51) 9 59 01-12, Fax: (0 71 51) 9 59 01-55, Mail: so@i-clue.de To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Jun 21 4:15:37 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from sbtx.tmn.ru (sbtx.tmn.ru [212.76.160.49]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B5BFB37B406 for ; Thu, 21 Jun 2001 04:15:32 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from serg@sbtx.tmn.ru) Received: from sv.tech.sibitex.tmn.ru (sv.tech.sibitex.tmn.ru [212.76.160.59]) by sbtx.tmn.ru (8.11.3/8.11.3) with ESMTP id f5LBFUI09868; Thu, 21 Jun 2001 17:15:31 +0600 (YEKST) (envelope-from serg@sbtx.tmn.ru) Received: (from serg@localhost) by sv.tech.sibitex.tmn.ru (8.11.4/8.11.4) id f5LBFUL00535; Thu, 21 Jun 2001 17:15:30 +0600 (YEKST) (envelope-from serg) Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2001 17:15:30 +0600 From: "Sergey N. Voronkov" To: Christoph Sold Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Microsoft uses FreeBSD Message-ID: <20010621171530.A490@sv.tech.sibitex.tmn.ru> References: <3B31CB11.C56D452C@i-clue.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <3B31CB11.C56D452C@i-clue.de>; from so@server.i-clue.de on Thu, Jun 21, 2001 at 12:23:13PM +0200 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Thu, Jun 21, 2001 at 12:23:13PM +0200, Christoph Sold wrote: > Just for the record: Microsoft sells GPL'ed tools. See > http://www.microsoft.com/windows2000/interix/default.asp > > The feature list starts with > KornShell, C Shell and Bourne Shell with full job control > Over 300 utilities, including scripting tools such as awk, sed, > perl, Tcl/Tk > Berkeley Software Design (BSD) sockets mapped to > Winsock > First at all, if the source is GPLed then it is Open Source. But Open Source isn't GPL always! (See /COPYRIGHT on FreeBSD as an example). Second one - sources of the GPLed utilities are available from Microsoft (see the bottom of the referenced page). So GPL terms of use aren't broken. So, if you don't like Microsoft (as I'm), be free to use any other software, but do not say they breaks any restricted licenses when they aren't. Just my $0.02, Serg N. Voronkov. P.S.: Excuse me for my english... To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Jun 21 4:45:40 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from www.golsyd.net.au (golsyd.net.au [203.57.20.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4E2BB37B403 for ; Thu, 21 Jun 2001 04:45:38 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kaltorak@quake.com.au) Received: from [203.164.12.28] by www.quake.com.au (NTMail 4.30.0012/AB6169.63.5724aadf) with ESMTP id goubaaaa for ; Thu, 21 Jun 2001 21:44:12 +1000 Message-ID: <3B31DEE4.EEF97B2F@quake.com.au> Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2001 21:47:48 +1000 From: Kal Torak X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.73 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Sergey N. Voronkov" Cc: Christoph Sold , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Microsoft uses FreeBSD References: <3B31CB11.C56D452C@i-clue.de> <20010621171530.A490@sv.tech.sibitex.tmn.ru> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG "Sergey N. Voronkov" wrote: > > First at all, if the source is GPLed then it is Open Source. But > Open Source isn't GPL always! (See /COPYRIGHT on FreeBSD as an example). > > Second one - sources of the GPLed utilities are available from > Microsoft (see the bottom of the referenced page). So GPL terms > of use aren't broken. > > So, if you don't like Microsoft (as I'm), be free to use any > other software, but do not say they breaks any restricted licenses > when they aren't. I dont think he is talking about them breaking any laws, but M$ have this big thing about saying "open source is bad mkay"... Rather hypocritical of them to use said software them selfs... To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Jun 21 4:58:31 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mta03-svc.ntlworld.com (mta03-svc.ntlworld.com [62.253.162.43]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B47D537B407 for ; Thu, 21 Jun 2001 04:58:28 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from greid@FreeBSD.org) Received: from sobek.openirc.co.uk ([62.252.9.131]) by mta03-svc.ntlworld.com (InterMail vM.4.01.02.27 201-229-119-110) with ESMTP id <20010621115826.OOWH298.mta03-svc.ntlworld.com@sobek.openirc.co.uk>; Thu, 21 Jun 2001 12:58:26 +0100 Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2001 12:58:26 +0100 (BST) From: George Reid X-Sender: greid@sobek.openirc.co.uk To: Christopher Hall Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: AC97 sound codecs In-Reply-To: <200106210726.f5L7Q4o84210@x4.tucheng.generalresources.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Thu, 21 Jun 2001, Christopher Hall wrote: > The sound driver file for -current shows both these codecs (and others) > > Will the updated sound driver be ported to -stable? Yes, during the next mega-MFC of drivers and fixes. -- +-------------------+---------------------+ | George Reid | FreeBSD Committer | | +44 7740 197460 | greid@FreeBSD.org | +-------------------+---------------------+ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Jun 21 5: 4: 8 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from peitho.fxp.org (peitho.fxp.org [209.26.95.40]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E78C237B407 for ; Thu, 21 Jun 2001 05:04:04 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jedgar@www.fxp.org) Received: from sushi.wanmine.com (oca-pm3-5-15.hitter.net [207.192.77.15]) by peitho.fxp.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 138CE1360C; Thu, 21 Jun 2001 08:04:03 -0400 (EDT) Received: by sushi.wanmine.com (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 58B453E9E; Thu, 21 Jun 2001 08:03:59 -0400 (EDT) Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2001 08:03:59 -0400 From: Chris Faulhaber To: jlschwab Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: 4.3-S cvsup fail? Message-ID: <20010621080359.C56779@sushi.wanmine.com> Mail-Followup-To: Chris Faulhaber , jlschwab , freebsd-stable@freebsd.org References: <20010621004100.K32620-100000@citadel.simphost.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-md5; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="0OAP2g/MAC+5xKAE" Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <20010621004100.K32620-100000@citadel.simphost.com>; from jlschwab@simphost.com on Thu, Jun 21, 2001 at 12:41:13AM -0400 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG --0OAP2g/MAC+5xKAE Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Thu, Jun 21, 2001 at 12:41:13AM -0400, jlschwab wrote: >=20 > cc -nostdinc -O -pipe > -I/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/perl/perl/../../../../contrib/perl5 > -I/usr/obj/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/perl/perl > -I/usr/obj/usr/src/i386/usr/include -c perlmain.c > Writing Makefile for DynaLoader > =3D=3D> Your Makefile has been rebuilt. <=3D=3D > =3D=3D> Please rerun the make command. <=3D=3D > false >=20 >=20 > any ideas on how to fix this? > I have quite a few machines to upgrade ;( >=20 Set your system's clock, it is probably off my a few days/months/years. --=20 Chris D. 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To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Jun 21 5:27:41 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from gekko.i-clue.de (server.ms-agentur.de [62.153.134.194]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D0FB037B403 for ; Thu, 21 Jun 2001 05:27:36 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from so@server.i-clue.de) Received: from i-clue.de (automatix.i-clue.de [192.168.0.112]) by gekko.i-clue.de (8.9.3/8.9.3/SuSE Linux 8.9.3-0.1) with ESMTP id OAA24773; Thu, 21 Jun 2001 14:36:26 +0200 Message-ID: <3B31E8B2.6A6CA944@i-clue.de> Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2001 14:29:38 +0200 From: Christoph Sold Reply-To: so@server.i-clue.de X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.75 [de] (WinNT; U) X-Accept-Language: de MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Kenneth Mays Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: releng4 no longer -STABLE??? References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Kenneth Mays schrieb: > > Stable Team, > > What is the last good stable snapshot on releng4 we can consider using > for testing or production use? $ uname -a FreeBSD msgate.ms-agentur.de 4.3-STABLE FreeBSD 4.3-STABLE #0: Wed Jun 20 12:04: 38 CEST 2001 root@msgate.ms-agentur.de:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/MSGATE i386 works for me -- only the release notes won't get updated. So what? -Christoph Sold To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Jun 21 5:32:25 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from arcadia.megadeb.org (cpe.atm0-0-0-218131.arcnxx5.customer.tele.dk [62.242.79.117]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C245A37B401 for ; Thu, 21 Jun 2001 05:32:19 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from chopra@runbox.com) Received: (from chopra@localhost) by arcadia.megadeb.org (8.11.3/8.11.3) id f5LCY5u65737 for freebsd-stable@freebsd.org; Thu, 21 Jun 2001 14:34:05 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from chopra) Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2001 14:34:05 +0200 From: Munish Chopra To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: kernel build dies in syscons? Message-ID: <20010621143405.I84944@arcadia.megadeb.org> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG My kernel builds have been croaking on syscons for the past week or so. Since other people don't seem to be having trouble with this, I was hoping someone may be able to figure out what I'm doing wrong (actually, it starts croaking when it's linking the kernel...but, I don't know my way around too well yet). Error: cc -c -O -pipe -march=k6 -Wall -Wredundant-decls -Wnested-externs -Wstrict-proto types -Wmissing-prototypes -Wpointer-arith -Winline -Wcast-qual -fformat-exten sions -ansi -nostdinc -I- -I. -I/usr/src/sys -I/usr/src/sys/../include -I/usr/s rc/sys/contrib/ipfilter -D_KERNEL -include opt_global.h -elf -mpreferred-stack -boundary=2 vers.c linking kernel kbd.o: In function `kbd_register': kbd.o(.text+0x2fa): undefined reference to `kbddriver_set' kbd.o(.text+0x301): undefined reference to `kbddriver_set' kbd.o: In function `kbd_get_switch': kbd.o(.text+0x408): undefined reference to `kbddriver_set' kbd.o(.text+0x40d): undefined reference to `kbddriver_set' kbd.o: In function `kbd_configure': kbd.o(.text+0x687): undefined reference to `kbddriver_set' kbd.o(.text+0x68c): more undefined references to `kbddriver_set' follow scvidctl.o: In function `sc_set_text_mode': scvidctl.o(.text+0x19): undefined reference to `vidsw' scvidctl.o: In function `sc_set_graphics_mode': scvidctl.o(.text+0x266): undefined reference to `vidsw' scvidctl.o: In function `sc_vid_ioctl': scvidctl.o(.text+0x77b): undefined reference to `vidsw' scvidctl.o(.text+0x79f): undefined reference to `vidsw' scvidctl.o(.text+0x7b8): undefined reference to `vid_get_adapter' scvidctl.o(.text+0x81e): undefined reference to `vid_get_adapter' scvidctl.o(.text+0x83f): undefined reference to `vidsw' scvidctl.o(.text+0x88c): undefined reference to `vid_get_adapter' scvidctl.o(.text+0x8a7): undefined reference to `vidsw' scvidctl.o(.text+0x8e5): undefined reference to `vidsw' scvidctl.o(.text+0x94f): undefined reference to `vidsw' scvidctl.o(.text+0x997): undefined reference to `vidsw' scvidctl.o(.text+0x9d2): undefined reference to `vidsw' scvidctl.o(.text+0xa1b): more undefined references to `vidsw' follow scvidctl.o: In function `sc_render_match': scvidctl.o(.text+0xce6): undefined reference to `scrndr_set' scvidctl.o(.text+0xceb): undefined reference to `scrndr_set' syscons.o: In function `scvidprobe': syscons.o(.text+0x69): undefined reference to `vid_configure' syscons.o(.text+0x74): undefined reference to `vid_find_adapter' syscons.o: In function `set_scrn_saver_mode': syscons.o(.text+0x27f6): undefined reference to `vidsw' syscons.o: In function `restore_scrn_saver_mode': syscons.o(.text+0x28e1): undefined reference to `vidsw' syscons.o: In function `exchange_scr': syscons.o(.text+0x2e8d): undefined reference to `vidsw' syscons.o: In function `scinit': syscons.o(.text+0x317d): undefined reference to `vid_release' syscons.o(.text+0x31b5): undefined reference to `vid_allocate' syscons.o(.text+0x31be): undefined reference to `vid_get_adapter' syscons.o(.text+0x3281): undefined reference to `vidsw' syscons.o(.text+0x329c): undefined reference to `vidsw' syscons.o(.text+0x3565): undefined reference to `vidsw' syscons.o: In function `scterm': syscons.o(.text+0x362a): undefined reference to `vid_release' syscons.o: In function `init_scp': syscons.o(.text+0x38c4): undefined reference to `vidsw' syscons.o: In function `scmmap': syscons.o(.text+0x41f9): undefined reference to `vidsw' syscons.o: In function `set_mode': syscons.o(.text+0x4380): undefined reference to `vidsw' syscons.o(.text+0x43c3): undefined reference to `vidsw' syscons.o: In function `sc_load_font': syscons.o(.text+0x4505): undefined reference to `vidsw' syscons.o(.text+0x4549): more undefined references to `vidsw' follow *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/obj/usr/src/sys/MESSIAH. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/src. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/src. I still have the distinct feeling that I screwed something up... -- -Munish To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Jun 21 6: 8: 8 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from smtp6.port.ru (mx6.port.ru [194.67.23.42]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8612437B403 for ; Thu, 21 Jun 2001 06:08:05 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from phisto@mail.ru) Received: from [193.233.5.20] (helo=oberon) by smtp6.port.ru with smtp (Exim 3.14 #2) id 15D4Bn-000L7P-00 for freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.org; Thu, 21 Jun 2001 17:08:03 +0400 Message-ID: <021701c0fa5b$992e4c10$0302030a@cit.gubkin.ru> From: "Sergey Veltistov" To: Subject: help Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2001 17:07:56 +0300 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="koi8-r" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG help To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Jun 21 7: 1:41 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from ravel.n2.net (ravel.n2.net [207.113.132.20]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8FE2537B401 for ; Thu, 21 Jun 2001 07:01:31 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from blovett@dilbert.bsdguru.com) Received: from dilbert.bsdguru.com (postfix@venus.bsdguru.com [207.113.133.11]) by ravel.n2.net (8.11.2/8.11.2) with ESMTP id f5LE1Tg07704 for ; Thu, 21 Jun 2001 07:01:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: by dilbert.bsdguru.com (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 77F8E3BE6; Thu, 21 Jun 2001 07:01:26 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2001 07:01:26 -0700 From: Ben Lovett To: riccardo@athena.polito.it Cc: stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD 4.3 on Inspiron 8000 Message-ID: <20010621070126.A10687@bsdguru.com> Mail-Followup-To: Ben Lovett , riccardo@athena.polito.it, stable@freebsd.org References: <3B30591A.81647FF1@polito.it> <20010620102041.A4666@bsdguru.com> <3B31AB26.95EE8A8@polito.it> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="cWoXeonUoKmBZSoM" Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <3B31AB26.95EE8A8@polito.it>; from riccardo.scandariato@polito.it on Thu, Jun 21, 2001 at 10:07:02AM +0200 X-Organization: San Diego BSD Users Group [http://www.sdbug.org] X-Disclaimer: All things expressed here are my opinions only, and not those of any past, present or future employers. X-Operating-System: FreeBSD venus 4.3-STABLE X-Moon: The Moon is New X-GPG-Key: http://www.oneinsane.net/~blovett/blovett.pgp X-GPG-Fingerprint: C75F A722 1518 03B8 26C3 77A1 7C76 8AFA EBAB 2004 X-Uptime: 6:55AM up 11:33, 6 users, load averages: 0.02, 0.10, 0.07 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG --cWoXeonUoKmBZSoM Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Hi Riccardo, Sure, would be happy to send my kernel config along, although there is nothing terribly special about it. The way that I know of to get the DVD working, is to tell the FreeBSD bootloader to wait for 60 seconds before booting the kernel. This allows for the DVD to settle, and thus work. This is a known problem. In order to mount a CD, I use mount /cdrom. This depends on there being a line like this in your /etc/fstab file: /dev/acd0c /cdrom cd9660 ro,noauto 0 0 Hrm.. I do not have a Xircom PCMCIA card, but maybe someone else on the -mobile list would be able to help you.. Hope this helps you some.. -ben I believe I saw Riccardo Scandariato (riccardo.scandariato@polito.it) write this: > Hi Ben, > > I updated BIOS to A10. My DVD still doesn't work. Could you: > 1) send me your kernel config file? > 2) tell me which device you mount for CD (the exact command would be > nice since I'm a freebie)? > > Thank you much for your valuable help, cheers > riccardo > > P.S. Any suggestion for the Xircom PCMCIA? > > Ben Lovett wrote: > > > > I believe I saw Daniel O'Connor (doconnor@gsoft.com.au) write this: > > 8< ---- snip snip ---- >8 > > > > My machine: > > > > Inspiron 8000 > > > > > > > > Video: ATI Rage Mobility M4 (+32 M) > > > > Audio: ESS Maestro > > > > CD: Thoshiba DVD-ROM SD-C2402 > > > > Net: Xircon CardBus 10/100 + Modem 56K (RBEM56) > > > > > > > > Thanks in advance for your help (I'm a newbie of fBSD) > > > > > Technically, its an ESS Maestro3, so if you build your kernel without > > pcm support, and load snd_maestro3 at boot time, you'll be fine. > > > > > The DVD from is a known issue I think. > > DVD works fine in my Dell 8000, what BIOS revision do you have? If I > > recall properly, I have version A10, and I am assuming that Dell has > > fixed this issue, possibly without knowing it ;) > > > > I am also now able to suspend my laptop after using the builtin mini-pci > > nic (using the non-miibus code), and I do not have those nasty SCB > > timeouts that so many have described. Hope this helps you some! > > > > 8< ---- snip snip ---- >8 > > > > Hope this helps! > > -- > > -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- > > Ben Lovett printf("Hello world!); > > blovett@bsdguru.com return 0; > > -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- > > There's no place like ~ > -- -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Ben Lovett printf("Hello world!); blovett@bsdguru.com return 0; -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- To boldly go where I surely don't belong. --cWoXeonUoKmBZSoM Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: attachment; filename=DILBERT # Dilbert # Dell Inspiron 8000 running the latest -STABLE of FreeBSD =) # machine i386 cpu I686_CPU ident "DILBERT" maxusers 128 #makeoptions DEBUG=-g #Build kernel with gdb(1) debug symbols #options MATH_EMULATE #Support for x87 emulation options INET #InterNETworking options INET6 #IPv6 communications protocols options FFS #Berkeley Fast Filesystem options FFS_ROOT #FFS usable as root device [keep this!] options SOFTUPDATES #Enable FFS soft updates support options MFS #Memory Filesystem options MD_ROOT #MD is a potential root device options NFS #Network Filesystem #options NFS_ROOT #NFS usable as root device, NFS required options MSDOSFS #MSDOS Filesystem options CD9660 #ISO 9660 Filesystem #options CD9660_ROOT #CD-ROM usable as root, CD9660 required options PROCFS #Process filesystem options COMPAT_43 #Compatible with BSD 4.3 [KEEP THIS!] options SCSI_DELAY=15000 #Delay (in ms) before probing SCSI options UCONSOLE #Allow users to grab the console options USERCONFIG #boot -c editor options VISUAL_USERCONFIG #visual boot -c editor options KTRACE #ktrace(1) support options SYSVSHM #SYSV-style shared memory options SYSVMSG #SYSV-style message queues options SYSVSEM #SYSV-style semaphores options P1003_1B #Posix P1003_1B real-time extensions options _KPOSIX_PRIORITY_SCHEDULING options ICMP_BANDLIM #Rate limit bad replies options KBD_INSTALL_CDEV # install a CDEV entry in /dev device isa device eisa device pci # Floppy drives device fdc0 at isa? port IO_FD1 irq 6 drq 2 device fd0 at fdc0 drive 0 device fd1 at fdc0 drive 1 # ATA and ATAPI devices device ata0 at isa? port IO_WD1 irq 14 device ata1 at isa? port IO_WD2 irq 15 device ata device atadisk # ATA disk drives device atapicd # ATAPI CDROM drives device atapifd # ATAPI floppy drives device atapist # ATAPI tape drives options ATA_STATIC_ID #Static device numbering # atkbdc0 controls both the keyboard and the PS/2 mouse device atkbdc0 at isa? port IO_KBD device atkbd0 at atkbdc? irq 1 flags 0x1 device psm0 at atkbdc? irq 12 device vga0 at isa? # splash screen/screen saver pseudo-device splash # syscons is the default console driver, resembling an SCO console device sc0 at isa? flags 0x100 # Enable this and PCVT_FREEBSD for pcvt vt220 compatible console driver #device vt0 at isa? #options XSERVER # support for X server on a vt console #options FAT_CURSOR # start with block cursor # If you have a ThinkPAD, uncomment this along with the rest of the PCVT lines #options PCVT_SCANSET=2 # IBM keyboards are non-std # Floating point support - do not disable. device npx0 at nexus? port IO_NPX irq 13 # Power management support (see LINT for more options) device apm0 at nexus? flags 0x20 # Advanced Power Management # PCCARD (PCMCIA) support device card device pcic0 at isa? irq 10 port 0x3e0 iomem 0xd0000 device pcic1 at isa? irq 0 port 0x3e2 iomem 0xd4000 disable # Serial (COM) ports device sio0 at isa? port IO_COM1 flags 0x10 irq 4 device sio1 at isa? port IO_COM2 irq 3 device sio2 at isa? disable port IO_COM3 irq 5 device sio3 at isa? disable port IO_COM4 irq 9 # Parallel port device ppc0 at isa? irq 7 device ppbus # Parallel port bus (required) device lpt # Printer device plip # TCP/IP over parallel device ppi # Parallel port interface device #device vpo # Requires scbus and da # Internal Intel card. device fxp # Intel EtherExpress PRO/100B (82557, 82558) device miibus # MII bus support # Pseudo devices - the number indicates how many units to allocate. pseudo-device loop # Network loopback pseudo-device ether # Ethernet support pseudo-device sl 1 # Kernel SLIP pseudo-device ppp 1 # Kernel PPP pseudo-device tun # Packet tunnel. pseudo-device pty # Pseudo-ttys (telnet etc) pseudo-device md # Memory "disks" pseudo-device gif 4 # IPv6 and IPv4 tunneling pseudo-device faith 1 # IPv6-to-IPv4 relaying (translation) # The `bpf' pseudo-device enables the Berkeley Packet Filter. # Be aware of the administrative consequences of enabling this! pseudo-device bpf 4 #Berkeley packet filter # Added 6/13/01 by Ben Lovett options IPFILTER #ipfilter support options IPFILTER_LOG #ipfilter logging #options IPFILTER_DEFAULT_BLOCK #block all packets by default ## PPP options options PPP_BSDCOMP #PPP BSD-compress support options PPP_DEFLATE #PPP zlib/deflate/gzip support options PPP_FILTER #enable bpf filtering (needs bpf) ## IPSEC options options IPSEC #IP security options IPSEC_ESP #IP security (crypto; define w/ IPSEC) options IPSEC_DEBUG #debug for IP security ## Netgear FA410-TXC card device ed # requires miibus if patched options USER_LDT --cWoXeonUoKmBZSoM-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Jun 21 7:21: 7 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from hotmail.com (law2-f147.hotmail.com [216.32.181.147]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5511237B401 for ; Thu, 21 Jun 2001 07:21:04 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kmays2000@hotmail.com) Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Thu, 21 Jun 2001 07:21:04 -0700 Received: from 139.76.65.132 by lw2fd.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Thu, 21 Jun 2001 14:21:03 GMT X-Originating-IP: [139.76.65.132] From: "Kenneth Mays" To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Microsoft uses FreeBSD Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2001 10:21:03 -0400 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 21 Jun 2001 14:21:04.0204 (UTC) FILETIME=[6784E8C0:01C0FA5D] Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Let's see if this works without HTNL... I may be wrong, but Microsoft was trying to use "Linux" as the arguement for corporate use of reliable mission-critical servers. Basically, Microsoft felt that open-source operating systems are more subject to hacker abuse than its own Windows OS. They claim they don't use open source on their front-end systems, but I did remember them saying they used some of them on the backend systems - namely FreeBSD. Does this mean that their employees and contractors don't have Linux/FreeBSD-oriented OSes in their locker rooms and briefcases?!? Anyone working in media or journalism would be FOOLISH to think a large corporation like Microsoft would not make use of the open-source market in one way or another if even for QA purpose against their own software development practices and Internet server toolsets. Microsoft can't expect Windows to do it all, neither can it expect FreeBSD to do it all (although it can do it better than Windows in some ways). Think about it, over 4000+ packages exist in most of the distributions of Linux and even FreeBSD. Why would ANY corporation not take advantage of the utilities and applications out there which are FREE in most cases?? StarOffice and KOffice in comparision to Microsoft Office XP are a major achievement of what can be done in the open-source market. Microsoft focuses its attacks on Linux. They know they can't compete head-to-head well against FreeBSD or even BSDI Internet Server on that note (on the server level). Nuff' Said...back to -STABLE. -Ken "I don't know it all, otherwise life would be meaningless." _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Jun 21 7:24:45 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from relay.tecc.co.uk (luggage.tecc.co.uk [193.128.6.129]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 6F84137B409 for ; Thu, 21 Jun 2001 07:24:38 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from andy@tecc.co.uk) Received: from southampton [195.217.37.155] by relay.tecc.co.uk with smtp (Exim 1.70 #1) id 15D5Nt-0007LI-00; Thu, 21 Jun 2001 15:24:37 +0100 From: "Andy" To: Subject: FW: shutdown not completing Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2001 15:24:37 +0100 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG reposting as requested and adding some details:- >a> did you get a resolution to this? I updated two >a> days ago and having just done "shutdown now" mine >a> to hangs? > >Nope. I put in the kernel debugger and drove out to my co-lo facility >yesterday. Spent all day there but couldn't make it happen on demand, >naturally ;-( > >Apparenly, one cannot trigger the kernel debugger on the serial >console once the getty process is killed. This makes it very >difficult to track down remotely. > >My gut feel is that this happens if I forget to "sync" before >shutdown, and/or after make installkernel. > >Please post your details to the stable@freebsd.org list so that there >is more evidence for people to debug with. > >I'm running recent Dell servers, what about you? My machine is home made, dual PIII, 512MRam IDE, SCSI, well, loads really. I ran 4.2-RELEASE no problems. My 4.3 arrived in the post yesterday but the day b4 decided to go to -STABLE. Never done it b4 but I've never had probs b4 either. I am just cvsup'ing now. If the prob is still there tomorrow then I'll try to get more info on it to post. Hard to find the problem otherwise. Ak To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Jun 21 7:36:41 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from cain.gsoft.com.au (genesi.lnk.telstra.net [139.130.136.161]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0C9CC37B401 for ; Thu, 21 Jun 2001 07:36:30 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from doconnor@gsoft.com.au) Received: from cain.gsoft.com.au (root@spare0.gsoft.com.au [203.38.152.114]) by cain.gsoft.com.au (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id AAA08926; Fri, 22 Jun 2001 00:06:18 +0930 (CST) (envelope-from doconnor@gsoft.com.au) Message-ID: X-Mailer: XFMail 1.4.7 on FreeBSD X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <20010621070126.A10687@bsdguru.com> Date: Fri, 22 Jun 2001 00:06:15 +0930 (CST) From: "Daniel O'Connor" To: Ben Lovett Subject: Re: FreeBSD 4.3 on Inspiron 8000 Cc: stable@freebsd.org, riccardo@athena.polito.it, WATANABE Kiyoshi Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On 21-Jun-2001 Ben Lovett wrote: > Hrm.. I do not have a Xircom PCMCIA card, but maybe someone else on the > -mobile list would be able to help you.. I have the minipci fxp + winmodem and I get fxp SCB and DMA timeouts after upgrading the BIOS :( (I had A4 now A10 - both exhibit the same problem). Also, once I suspect the USB controller stops working (controller error I think) - never to return either. The weird thing is that now I get SCB timeouts but the fxp can still ping.. weeeird :) I am using the driver for the WinModem kindly written by WATANABE Kiyoshi but I have found a guaranteed way to crash it :) cu -l /dev/cual0 -s 57600 ATH1 ~. *boom* :( No panic, just hangs solid - I don't know if it is possible to get a further diagnostic, but if anyone has a suggestion I am quite willing to try :) --- Daniel O'Connor software and network engineer for Genesis Software - http://www.gsoft.com.au "The nice thing about standards is that there are so many of them to choose from." -- Andrew Tanenbaum To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Jun 21 7:58:18 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mercury.Sun.COM (mercury.Sun.COM [192.9.25.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DAAE237B407 for ; Thu, 21 Jun 2001 07:58:15 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ktsin@acm.org) Received: from sr71.Singapore.Sun.COM ([129.158.72.11]) by mercury.Sun.COM (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id HAA13771; Thu, 21 Jun 2001 07:58:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: from acm.org (melati [129.158.72.183]) by sr71.Singapore.Sun.COM (8.10.2+Sun/8.10.2/ENSMAIL,v2.1p1) with ESMTP id f5LEvQK03997; Thu, 21 Jun 2001 22:57:26 +0800 (SGT) Message-ID: <3B320B55.8A329066@acm.org> Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2001 22:57:25 +0800 From: KT Sin X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.77 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.2.12 i386) X-Accept-Language: en, zh-TW, zh-CN, ko, ja MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Christopher Hall Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: AC97 sound codecs References: <200106210726.f5L7Q4o84210@x4.tucheng.generalresources.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG For the i815E motherboard, you can try the ICH audio driver at http://www.katsurajima.seya.yokohama.jp/ich/ kt Christopher Hall wrote: > > Is the AC97 sound system supported on on -stable. > I tried two motherboards: > > 1. i815E/Celeron motherboard, AD1885 codec > > 2. SiS 730S/Duron Motherboard, ALC200 codec > > First tried kldload each sound driver and send data to /dev/dsp > Second tried a kernel with device pcm > > Neither of these tests worked. > just get "/dev/dsp: Device not configured." > > I found that in sys/dev/sound/pcm/ac97.c has a list of AC97 codecs > and should print a messge for the codec. > > I just get a "unknown card" message from boot -v > The BIOS listed same ID numbers as "Multmedia Device" > There were no ac97 related messages in the boot -v listing. > > The sound driver file for -current shows both these codecs (and others) > > Will the updated sound driver be ported to -stable? > > --- > Christopher Hall Fax: +886-2-2795-3030 > Christopher Hall Phone: +886-2-2795-5799 > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Jun 21 8:23:37 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from relay.tecc.co.uk (luggage.tecc.co.uk [193.128.6.129]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id BD97137B403; Thu, 21 Jun 2001 08:23:18 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from andy@tecc.co.uk) Received: from southampton [195.217.37.155] by relay.tecc.co.uk with smtp (Exim 1.70 #1) id 15D6If-0002yu-00; Thu, 21 Jun 2001 16:23:17 +0100 From: "Andy" To: Cc: , Subject: RE: shutdown not completing Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2001 16:23:17 +0100 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) In-Reply-To: Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG cross posting this to -smp and -hackers as it seems to be a problem there..... for those who are new to the problem, in -stable we have reports of "shutdown now" hanging rather than dropping to single user mode. I have a dual PIII machine. At 4.2-RELEASE I had no problems at all. However, two/three days ago I went to -STABLE. I now have the "shutdown now" problem. However, if I boot GENERIC I have no problem with shutdown now. So, as an experiment I made a new kernel based on my SMP kernel. The only change I made was to drop the two lines which make it an SMP kernel. On doing "shutdown now" with this kernel I go to single user mode. So, the "shutdown now" problem appears to be connected with shutting down processor #1 ?? Anyone shed light on this? Regards Andy To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Jun 21 8:27:27 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mail.tiscalinet.it (mail-2.tiscalinet.it [195.130.225.148]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0B6B137B401 for ; Thu, 21 Jun 2001 08:27:25 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from m.fusaro@tiscalinet.it) Received: from [194.185.248.190] by mail.tiscalinet.it with HTTP; Thu, 21 Jun 2001 17:27:23 +0200 Message-ID: <3B175CEA00012402@mail.tiscalinet.it> Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2001 17:27:23 +0200 From: m.fusaro@tiscalinet.it Subject: =?iso-8859-1?Q?ssh=20connection=20problems?= To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG After the last make world (June 8), when trying to connecting to my freebsd (4.3-stable) box thru ssh2 with public key authentication, I get the following error: Jun 21 12:14:52 fux sshd[10174]: fatal: PAM setcred failed[6]: Permission= denied I can connect using password authentication. here some (maybe) useful information: $ uname -a FreeBSD fux 4.3-STABLE FreeBSD 4.3-STABLE #9: Tue Jun 12 11:51:17 CEST 20= 01 max@fux:/usr/src/sys/compile/MCF i386 ... and yes, after make world i did a mergemaster. Thx -massimo fusaro __________________________________________________________________ Abbonati a Tiscali! Con VoceViva puoi anche ascoltare ed inviare email al telefono. Chiama VoceViva allo 0143 434343 http://voceviva.tiscali.it To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Jun 21 8:40: 6 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from shemp.palomine.net (shemp.palomine.net [205.198.88.200]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 39AE337B401 for ; Thu, 21 Jun 2001 08:39:59 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from cjohnson@757pilot.org) Received: (qmail 57441 invoked by uid 1000); 21 Jun 2001 15:39:57 -0000 Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2001 11:39:56 -0400 From: Chris Johnson To: m.fusaro@tiscalinet.it Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: ssh connection problems Message-ID: <20010621113956.B57355@palomine.net> References: <3B175CEA00012402@mail.tiscalinet.it> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="HcAYCG3uE/tztfnV" Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <3B175CEA00012402@mail.tiscalinet.it>; from m.fusaro@tiscalinet.it on Thu, Jun 21, 2001 at 05:27:23PM +0200 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG --HcAYCG3uE/tztfnV Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Thu, Jun 21, 2001 at 05:27:23PM +0200, m.fusaro@tiscalinet.it wrote: > After the last make world (June 8),=20 > when trying to connecting to my freebsd (4.3-stable) box thru ssh2 with > public key authentication, I get the following error: >=20 > Jun 21 12:14:52 fux sshd[10174]: fatal: PAM setcred failed[6]: Permission > denied cvsup again and re-make world. There was a short window when SSH was screwe= d up (I upgraded during that window too, and had the same problem). Chris --HcAYCG3uE/tztfnV Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (FreeBSD) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE7MhVLyeUEMvtGLWERAh3DAJ9w2xypB9R0e73cX1ONwKWhpCBLywCgjH0o lOXIrbAB4nfKluSzzc7BCBU= =SGEL -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --HcAYCG3uE/tztfnV-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Jun 21 8:50: 8 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mikea.ath.cx (okc-65-26-223-53.mmcable.com [65.26.223.53]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E0B6F37B401; Thu, 21 Jun 2001 08:49:57 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mikea@mikea.ath.cx) Received: (from mikea@localhost) by mikea.ath.cx (8.11.4/8.11.1) id f5LFnvD66024; Thu, 21 Jun 2001 10:49:57 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from mikea) Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2001 10:49:57 -0500 From: mikea Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-smp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: shutdown not completing Message-ID: <20010621104957.C65743@mikea.ath.cx> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.4i In-Reply-To: ; from andy@tecc.co.uk on Thu, Jun 21, 2001 at 04:23:17PM +0100 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Thu, Jun 21, 2001 at 04:23:17PM +0100, Andy wrote: > cross posting this to -smp and -hackers as it > seems to be a problem there..... > > for those who are new to the problem, in -stable > we have reports of "shutdown now" hanging rather > than dropping to single user mode. > > I have a dual PIII machine. At 4.2-RELEASE I had > no problems at all. However, two/three days ago > I went to -STABLE. I now have the "shutdown now" > problem. > > However, if I boot GENERIC I have no problem with > shutdown now. So, as an experiment I made a new > kernel based on my SMP kernel. The only change I > made was to drop the two lines which make it an > SMP kernel. > > On doing "shutdown now" with this kernel I go > to single user mode. > > So, the "shutdown now" problem appears to be > connected with shutting down processor #1 ?? > > Anyone shed light on this? Another data point: I'm running 4.3-stable, cvsup'd to the 20010610 code, on an MP kernel (MSI 694D-AR motherboard, 2xPiii-866). I have not experienced any problem in shutdown, and have been fiddling with things a lot recently. Some days I've done two or three shutdowns to single-user mode and multiple shutdowns to the completely-down "hit-any-key" state. -- Mike Andrews mikea@mikea.ath.cx Tired old sysadmin since 1964 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Jun 21 9:14:18 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from poontang.schulte.org (poontang.schulte.org [209.134.156.197]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2E36E37B408 for ; Thu, 21 Jun 2001 09:14:14 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from christopher@schulte.org) Received: from schulte-laptop.schulte.org (nb60.netbriefings.com [64.183.199.60]) by poontang.schulte.org (8.12.0.Beta10/8.12.0.Beta10) with ESMTP id f5LGE9jU049104; Thu, 21 Jun 2001 11:14:10 -0500 (CDT) Message-Id: <5.1.0.14.0.20010621111114.0298c920@pop.schulte.org> X-Sender: schulte@pop.schulte.org X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2001 11:12:47 -0500 To: Chris Johnson , m.fusaro@tiscalinet.it From: Christopher Schulte Subject: Re: ssh connection problems Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <20010621113956.B57355@palomine.net> References: <3B175CEA00012402@mail.tiscalinet.it> <3B175CEA00012402@mail.tiscalinet.it> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I was going to privately suggest the original poster check the list archives before posting, but noticed that the -stable archives are not available. In fact they've been unavailable every time I've tried to search them for the last week or two at least. Is there a problem with the archive indexer? At 11:39 AM 6/21/2001 -0400, Chris Johnson wrote: >On Thu, Jun 21, 2001 at 05:27:23PM +0200, m.fusaro@tiscalinet.it wrote: > > After the last make world (June 8), > > when trying to connecting to my freebsd (4.3-stable) box thru ssh2 with > > public key authentication, I get the following error: > > > > Jun 21 12:14:52 fux sshd[10174]: fatal: PAM setcred failed[6]: Permission > > denied > >cvsup again and re-make world. There was a short window when SSH was >screwed up >(I upgraded during that window too, and had the same problem). > >Chris To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Jun 21 9:29:28 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from morpheus.mind.net (morpheus.mind.net [206.101.72.12]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 960A237B403 for ; Thu, 21 Jun 2001 09:29:25 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jfox@morpheus.mind.net) Received: (from jfox@localhost) by morpheus.mind.net (8.11.3/8.11.3) id f5LGTOS03422; Thu, 21 Jun 2001 09:29:24 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jfox) Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2001 09:29:23 -0700 From: John Fox To: Munish Chopra Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: kernel build dies in syscons? Message-ID: <20010621092923.C418@mind.net> References: <20010621143405.I84944@arcadia.megadeb.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <20010621143405.I84944@arcadia.megadeb.org>; from chopra@runbox.com on Thu, Jun 21, 2001 at 02:34:05PM +0200 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Munish, I've had similar problems before. In my case, I had to fiddle with the order of certain things in my kernel config file. This was a while back, so I can't be certain, but it seems to me that I had to have my syscons device appear in the config *after* the keyboard stuff. So like this: -- # atkbdc0 controls both the keyboard and the PS/2 mouse device atkbdc0 at isa? port IO_KBD device atkbd0 at atkbdc? irq 1 flags 0x1 device psm0 at atkbdc? irq 12 device vga0 at isa? # syscons is the default console driver, resembling a SCO console device sc0 at isa? flags 0x100 -- I hope that's of help,M John -- John Fox System Administrator, InfoStructure, Ashland OR USA --------------------------------------------------------- "What is loved endures. And Babylon 5 ... Babylon 5 endures." --Delenn, "Rising Stars", Babylon 5 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Jun 21 9:54:51 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from relay.tecc.co.uk (luggage.tecc.co.uk [193.128.6.129]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id BC0A537B406; Thu, 21 Jun 2001 09:54:39 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from andy@tecc.co.uk) Received: from southampton [195.217.37.155] by relay.tecc.co.uk with smtp (Exim 1.70 #1) id 15D7j4-0003t1-00; Thu, 21 Jun 2001 17:54:38 +0100 From: "Andy" To: Cc: , Subject: RE: shutdown not completing (more info) Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2001 17:54:38 +0100 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) In-Reply-To: Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Install: 4.2-RELEASE from CDRom, GENERIC kernel "shutdown now" works fine. 4.3-RELEASE from CDRom, GENERIC kernel "shutdown now" fails, hangs machine. It seems I was outa touch with the SMP idea. The 4.3-RELEASE generic kernel (without smp) causes the problem so I won't cross post this to -smp anymore. But there does appear to be a problem. The above installs were done on the same hardware. I'll start trying to get closer to it but for now, believe us minority when we say "shutdown now" doesn't work but just hangs the system. fwiw, all these *do* work....... "shutdown -h now" "shutdown -r now" "reboot" "halt" To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Jun 21 10: 7: 4 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from bunrab.catwhisker.org (adsl-63-193-123-122.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net [63.193.123.122]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A62F737B401 for ; Thu, 21 Jun 2001 10:07:01 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from david@catwhisker.org) Received: (from david@localhost) by bunrab.catwhisker.org (8.10.0/8.10.0) id f5LH6io20204; Thu, 21 Jun 2001 10:06:44 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2001 10:06:44 -0700 (PDT) From: David Wolfskill Message-Id: <200106211706.f5LH6io20204@bunrab.catwhisker.org> To: andy@tecc.co.uk, freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: RE: shutdown not completing (more info) In-Reply-To: Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG >From: "Andy" >Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2001 17:54:38 +0100 >But there does appear to be a problem. >The above installs [FreeBSD-4.2 & -4.3 -- dhw] were done on the >same hardware. >I'll start trying to get closer to it >but for now, believe us minority when >we say "shutdown now" doesn't work but >just hangs the system. >fwiw, all these *do* work....... >"shutdown -h now" >"shutdown -r now" >"reboot" >"halt" Well, I've been tracking both -STABLE & -CURRENT daily for several weeks on my laptop now.... And granted, I usually tend to use "reboot" (sometimes augmented by "boot0cfg -s ?" to select a different slice ahead of time). So I just tried "sudo shutdown now" on the box while it was running today's 4.3-STABLE (CVSupped between 0347 - 0352 hrs. PDT, from cvsup14). No problem here.... Cheers, david -- David H. Wolfskill david@catwhisker.org As a computing professional, I believe it would be unethical for me to advise, recommend, or support the use (save possibly for personal amusement) of any product that is or depends on any Microsoft product. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Jun 21 10:20:12 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from sunu422.rz.ruhr-uni-bochum.de (sunu422.rz.ruhr-uni-bochum.de [134.147.64.14]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 30C2837B401 for ; Thu, 21 Jun 2001 10:20:09 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from thomas.stratmann@ruhr-uni-bochum.de) Received: (qmail 10709 invoked by alias); 21 Jun 2001 17:20:07 -0000 Received: (qmail 10701 invoked from network); 21 Jun 2001 17:20:07 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ruhr-uni-bochum.de) (134.147.159.3) by mailhost.rz.ruhr-uni-bochum.de with SMTP; 21 Jun 2001 17:20:07 -0000 Message-ID: <3B322E86.3FD9918C@ruhr-uni-bochum.de> Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2001 19:27:34 +0200 From: Thomas Stratmann X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.76 [en] (X11; U; FreeBSD 4.2-STABLE i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: stable@freebsd.org Subject: dumb console in single user mode Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi everyone, sorry, dumb (literally!) question. I need a comfortable console at startup in single user mode (one which allows the use of arrow keys, otherwise less/more is hellish). Console cut and paste also doesn't work, even with moused running (I ran rc.i386, after importing variables, thus cd /etc . defaults/rc.conf . rc.conf . rc.i386 which sets the correct keymap and starts moused). Initially I have $TERM = dumb, setting TERM=cons25 (the entry in /etc/ttys) won't do it. Probably I just forgot to run the right daemon or something... Any idea? Thanks Thomas To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Jun 21 10:22:56 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from arcadia.megadeb.org (cpe.atm0-0-0-218131.arcnxx5.customer.tele.dk [62.242.79.117]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E381137B403 for ; Thu, 21 Jun 2001 10:22:51 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from chopra@runbox.com) Received: (from chopra@localhost) by arcadia.megadeb.org (8.11.3/8.11.3) id f5LHOcX81117 for freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG; Thu, 21 Jun 2001 19:24:38 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from chopra) Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2001 19:24:38 +0200 From: Munish Chopra To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: kernel build dies in syscons? Message-ID: <20010621192438.L84944@arcadia.megadeb.org> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG References: <20010621143405.I84944@arcadia.megadeb.org> <20010621092923.C418@mind.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20010621092923.C418@mind.net>; from jjf@mind.net on Thu, Jun 21, 2001 at 09:29:23AM -0700 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Thu, Jun 21, 2001 at 09:29:23AM -0700, John Fox wrote: > > I've had similar problems before. In my case, I had to > fiddle with the order of certain things in my kernel > config file. This was a while back, so I can't be certain, > but it seems to me that I had to have my syscons device > appear in the config *after* the keyboard stuff. > > So like this: > -- > # atkbdc0 controls both the keyboard and the PS/2 mouse > device atkbdc0 at isa? port IO_KBD > device atkbd0 at atkbdc? irq 1 flags 0x1 > device psm0 at atkbdc? irq 12 > device vga0 at isa? > Ahem. Embarrasing. Guess who accidentally commented out the above four lines? Well, it compiles now. Thanks for your help though. -- -Munish To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Jun 21 10:28:23 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from ravel.n2.net (ravel.n2.net [207.113.132.20]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0414237B407 for ; Thu, 21 Jun 2001 10:28:20 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from blovett@venus.bsdguru.com) Received: from venus.bsdguru.com (postfix@venus.n2.net [207.113.132.26]) by ravel.n2.net (8.11.2/8.11.2) with ESMTP id f5LHSJg26637 for ; Thu, 21 Jun 2001 10:28:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: by venus.bsdguru.com (Postfix, from userid 1000) id D9FF33BE6; Thu, 21 Jun 2001 10:28:18 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2001 10:28:18 -0700 From: Ben Lovett To: stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD 4.3 on Inspiron 8000 Message-ID: <20010621102818.A11450@bsdguru.com> Mail-Followup-To: Ben Lovett , stable@freebsd.org References: <20010621070126.A10687@bsdguru.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: ; from doconnor@gsoft.com.au on Fri, Jun 22, 2001 at 12:06:15AM +0930 X-Organization: San Diego BSD Users Group [http://www.sdbug.org] X-Disclaimer: All things expressed here are my opinions only, and not those of any past, present or future employers. X-Operating-System: FreeBSD venus 4.3-STABLE X-Moon: The Moon is New X-GPG-Key: http://www.oneinsane.net/~blovett/blovett.pgp X-GPG-Fingerprint: C75F A722 1518 03B8 26C3 77A1 7C76 8AFA EBAB 2004 X-Uptime: 10:22AM up 12:10, 3 users, load averages: 0.63, 0.21, 0.09 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I believe I saw Daniel O'Connor (doconnor@gsoft.com.au) write this: > > On 21-Jun-2001 Ben Lovett wrote: > > Hrm.. I do not have a Xircom PCMCIA card, but maybe someone else on the > > -mobile list would be able to help you.. > > I have the minipci fxp + winmodem and I get fxp SCB and DMA timeouts after > upgrading the BIOS :( > (I had A4 now A10 - both exhibit the same problem). Hrm... Are you using the miibus if'ied fxp driver? I am not, due to some of the problems that arose when it was committed.. I would be willing to try again when I next upgrade my system, but as it is working perfectly right now, I do not wish to break anything ;) You might try the non-miibus driver, although, I do not see how adding miibus calls to the code could cause the system to hang, but then again, I am not a programmer, nor do I have any understanding of what the new driver does. > Also, once I suspect the USB controller stops working (controller error I > think) - never to return either. I have not had a chance to try anything USB, but I'll try it when I do ;-) > > The weird thing is that now I get SCB timeouts but the fxp can still ping.. > weeeird :) > That is kinda weird.. Is that from another machine, or the laptop? > I am using the driver for the WinModem kindly written by WATANABE Kiyoshi > but I have found a guaranteed way to crash it :) > > cu -l /dev/cual0 -s 57600 > ATH1 > ~. > > *boom* :( > > No panic, just hangs solid - I don't know if it is possible to get a further > diagnostic, but if anyone has a suggestion I am quite willing to try :) > I'll take your word on that.. I'm actually just using my trusty 3com 56k pccard, but I did install the lucent shims and they do work perfectly. > --- > Daniel O'Connor software and network engineer > for Genesis Software - http://www.gsoft.com.au > "The nice thing about standards is that there > are so many of them to choose from." > -- Andrew Tanenbaum > Hope this helps! -- -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Ben Lovett printf("Hello world!); blovett@bsdguru.com return 0; -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- As long as the answer is right, who cares if the question is wrong? To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Jun 21 11: 6: 4 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from firebat.bushong.net (c128625-a.frmt1.sfba.home.com [24.176.225.90]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2C4F537B401 for ; Thu, 21 Jun 2001 11:06:00 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dbushong@firebat.bushong.net) Received: (from dbushong@localhost) by firebat.bushong.net (8.11.0/8.11.0) id f5LI5rJ13811; Thu, 21 Jun 2001 11:05:53 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dbushong) Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2001 11:05:53 -0700 From: David Bushong To: Thomas Stratmann Cc: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: dumb console in single user mode Message-ID: <20010621110553.A60757@bushong.net> References: <3B322E86.3FD9918C@ruhr-uni-bochum.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <3B322E86.3FD9918C@ruhr-uni-bochum.de>; from thomas.stratmann@ruhr-uni-bochum.de on Thu, Jun 21, 2001 at 07:27:34PM +0200 X-Floating-Sheep-Port: 0xbaa Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I know I've run vi in single user before (and less works), so it's not a dumb terminal, per se. For arrow keys in less, just use 'j' to go down and 'k' to go up a line (a la vi). For cutting and pasting, try using screen (/usr/ports/misc/screen). It will let you cut and paste, and also allows you to have virtual terminals and whatnot. Fair warning: it's got a bit of a learning curve to get full utility out of it. --David Bushong On Thu, Jun 21, 2001 at 07:27:34PM +0200, Thomas Stratmann wrote: > Hi everyone, > > sorry, dumb (literally!) question. I need a comfortable console at > startup in single user mode (one which allows the use of arrow keys, > otherwise less/more is hellish). Console cut and paste also doesn't > work, even with moused running (I ran rc.i386, after importing > variables, thus > > cd /etc > . defaults/rc.conf > . rc.conf > . rc.i386 > > which sets the correct keymap and starts moused). > Initially I have $TERM = dumb, setting TERM=cons25 (the entry in > /etc/ttys) won't do it. > Probably I just forgot to run the right daemon or something... > > Any idea? > > Thanks > Thomas > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Jun 21 11:15: 1 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from sunu422.rz.ruhr-uni-bochum.de (sunu422.rz.ruhr-uni-bochum.de [134.147.64.14]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id ED15E37B40A for ; Thu, 21 Jun 2001 11:14:55 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from thomas.stratmann@ruhr-uni-bochum.de) Received: (qmail 27693 invoked by alias); 21 Jun 2001 18:14:55 -0000 Received: (qmail 27676 invoked from network); 21 Jun 2001 18:14:55 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ruhr-uni-bochum.de) (134.147.159.3) by mailhost.rz.ruhr-uni-bochum.de with SMTP; 21 Jun 2001 18:14:55 -0000 Message-ID: <3B323B5E.D47A0C4E@ruhr-uni-bochum.de> Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2001 20:22:22 +0200 From: Thomas Stratmann X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.76 [en] (X11; U; FreeBSD 4.2-STABLE i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: David Bushong Cc: stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: dumb console in single user mode References: <3B322E86.3FD9918C@ruhr-uni-bochum.de> <20010621110553.A60757@bushong.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi, thanks for your advice, I was thinking about installing screen very soon, but at the moment I'm just after a build kernel + world and I urgently want to run mergemaster, being in single user mode (ssh for example is not working, probably some other stuff, and I'm not brave enough to install a port at that state. Do you think it could really be a problem or am I overparanoid?), I want to run vi parallelly (which forces me to use job control, as I only have one terminal in s.u. mode, screen would really be nice here; therefore I cannot cut&paste into vi...) to log the changes (I did not see the mergemaster manpage to mention it would auto-log anything, did I oversee something?). Thanks for your advice anyways, and sorry for my overlong sentences... Thomas David Bushong wrote: > > I know I've run vi in single user before (and less works), so it's not a > dumb terminal, per se. For arrow keys in less, just use 'j' to go down and > 'k' to go up a line (a la vi). For cutting and pasting, try using screen > (/usr/ports/misc/screen). It will let you cut and paste, and also allows > you to have virtual terminals and whatnot. Fair warning: it's got a bit of > a learning curve to get full utility out of it. > > --David Bushong To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Jun 21 11:35:25 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from femail1.sdc1.sfba.home.com (femail1.sdc1.sfba.home.com [24.0.95.81]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 34E8237B403; Thu, 21 Jun 2001 11:35:20 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from bmah@employees.org) Received: from intruder.bmah.org ([24.176.204.87]) by femail1.sdc1.sfba.home.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.20 201-229-121-120-20010223) with ESMTP id <20010621183519.DZJO1335.femail1.sdc1.sfba.home.com@intruder.bmah.org>; Thu, 21 Jun 2001 11:35:19 -0700 Received: (from bmah@localhost) by intruder.bmah.org (8.11.3/8.11.3) id f5LIZ6h39959; Thu, 21 Jun 2001 11:35:06 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from bmah) Message-Id: <200106211835.f5LIZ6h39959@intruder.bmah.org> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.3.1 01/18/2001 with nmh-1.0.4 To: Wilko Bulte Cc: Garance A Drosihn , Jordan Hubbard , dima@unixfreak.org, freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG, peter@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: releng4 no longer -STABLE??? In-Reply-To: <20010621075028.A60758@freebie.xs4all.nl> References: <20010620090239A.jkh@osd.bsdi.com> <20010620213657.B5DB63E28@bazooka.unixfreak.org> <20010620150717V.jkh@osd.bsdi.com> <20010621075028.A60758@freebie.xs4all.nl> Comments: In-reply-to Wilko Bulte message dated "Thu, 21 Jun 2001 07:50:28 +0200." From: "Bruce A. Mah" Reply-To: bmah@FreeBSD.ORG X-Face: g~c`.{#4q0"(V*b#g[i~rXgm*w;:nMfz%_RZLma)UgGN&=j`5vXoU^@n5v4:OO)c["!w)nD/!!~e4Sj7LiT'6*wZ83454H""lb{CC%T37O!!'S$S&D}sem7I[A 2V%N&+ X-Image-Url: http://www.employees.org/~bmah/Images/bmah-cisco-small.gif X-Url: http://www.employees.org/~bmah/ Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="==_Exmh_725485132P"; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2001 11:35:06 -0700 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG --==_Exmh_725485132P Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii If memory serves me right, Wilko Bulte wrote: > Bruce (bmah) has a request pending to the repomeisters to perform some > surgery on the repo to fix this problem. The problem was introduced > with some un-tested (on -stable) i18n work. I don't understand why Bruce's > request is still pending(?). The repomeister who agreed to do it it is really really busy. I'm continuing to pester him, at his request. This email is his daily ping. :-) Bruce. --==_Exmh_725485132P Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (FreeBSD) Comment: Exmh version 2.3.1+ 05/14/2001 iD8DBQE7Mj5a2MoxcVugUsMRAlr9AKCTKhKlmfHZBugl0LECJkzmXw6EGgCg2mfL n2YmLdD2vh7kHQsYheEnEXY= =XTIe -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --==_Exmh_725485132P-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Jun 21 11:36:16 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from clever.visp-europe.psi.com (clever.visp-europe.psi.com [212.222.105.4]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 29C6937B403 for ; Thu, 21 Jun 2001 11:36:14 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from albi.x@gmx.de) Received: from pd9055207.dip.t-dialin.net ([217.5.82.7] helo=oxid.ial.de) by clever.visp-europe.psi.com with asmtp (Exim 3.22 #3) id 15D9JL-0006Bb-00; Thu, 21 Jun 2001 20:36:11 +0200 Received: from hydroxy.ial.de ([192.168.111.98]) by oxid.ial.de (8.11.3/8.11.3) with ESMTP id f5LIaAi62897; Thu, 21 Jun 2001 20:36:10 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from albi.x@gmx.de) Message-Id: <200106211836.f5LIaAi62897@oxid.ial.de> Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2001 20:35:42 +0200 From: Ingo Albert X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.53) X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-TheBatID: <05977657.20010621203542@in-another-look.de> To: Thomas Stratmann Cc: stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: dumb console in single user mode In-Reply-To: <3B322E86.3FD9918C@ruhr-uni-bochum.de> References: <3B322E86.3FD9918C@ruhr-uni-bochum.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Deine Nachricht vom: Donnerstag, 21. Juni 2001, 19:27 Hello Thomas, > which sets the correct keymap and starts moused). > Initially I have $TERM = dumb, setting TERM=cons25 (the entry in > /etc/ttys) won't do it. > Probably I just forgot to run the right daemon or something... How did you set $TERM? Do you use `setenv TERM cons25`? Best regards Ingo -- Eine Schraube ohne Nagel ist ein Gewinde. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Jun 21 11:51:51 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from sunu422.rz.ruhr-uni-bochum.de (sunu422.rz.ruhr-uni-bochum.de [134.147.64.14]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 854E837B401 for ; Thu, 21 Jun 2001 11:51:48 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from thomas.stratmann@ruhr-uni-bochum.de) Received: (qmail 26326 invoked by alias); 21 Jun 2001 18:51:47 -0000 Received: (qmail 26311 invoked from network); 21 Jun 2001 18:51:46 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ruhr-uni-bochum.de) (134.147.159.3) by mailhost.rz.ruhr-uni-bochum.de with SMTP; 21 Jun 2001 18:51:46 -0000 Message-ID: <3B324401.36AD7A90@ruhr-uni-bochum.de> Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2001 20:59:13 +0200 From: Thomas Stratmann X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.76 [en] (X11; U; FreeBSD 4.2-STABLE i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Ingo Albert Cc: stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: dumb console in single user mode References: <3B322E86.3FD9918C@ruhr-uni-bochum.de> <200106211836.f5LIaAi62897@oxid.ial.de> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi again, Ingo Albert wrote: > > Deine Nachricht vom: Donnerstag, 21. Juni 2001, 19:27 > > Hello Thomas, > > > which sets the correct keymap and starts moused). > > Initially I have $TERM = dumb, setting TERM=cons25 (the entry in > > /etc/ttys) won't do it. > > Probably I just forgot to run the right daemon or something... > > How did you set $TERM? Do you use `setenv TERM cons25`? Similarly. I did export TERM=cons25 #I'm not bourne to be a UNIX guru ;-) The tty seems to work well (the dumb problem was fixed before I first posted, I seemed to have forgotten). The cut&paste still refuses to cooperate. Thomas > > Best regards > Ingo > -- > Eine Schraube ohne Nagel ist ein Gewinde. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Jun 21 12:18:33 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from dan.emsphone.com (dan.emsphone.com [199.67.51.101]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0A11437B443 for ; Thu, 21 Jun 2001 12:18:27 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dan@dan.emsphone.com) Received: (from dan@localhost) by dan.emsphone.com (8.11.3/8.11.3) id f5LJIO229138; Thu, 21 Jun 2001 14:18:24 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from dan) Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2001 14:18:24 -0500 From: Dan Nelson To: Andy Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: shutdown not completing (more info) Message-ID: <20010621141824.A24610@dan.emsphone.com> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.19i X-OS: FreeBSD 5.0-CURRENT Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG In the last episode (Jun 21), Andy said: > Install: > > 4.2-RELEASE from CDRom, GENERIC kernel > "shutdown now" works fine. > > 4.3-RELEASE from CDRom, GENERIC kernel > "shutdown now" fails, hangs machine. Where does it hang? What does ^T print? Also make sure you're on vty0 (ALT-F1), since that's where the single-user prompts go. -- Dan Nelson dnelson@emsphone.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Jun 21 13:20: 5 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from chmls06.mediaone.net (chmls06.mediaone.net [24.147.1.144]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BA70037B401 for ; Thu, 21 Jun 2001 13:20:00 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from davep@who.net) Received: from baloo.ne.mediaone.net (panariti.ne.mediaone.net [66.30.121.126]) by chmls06.mediaone.net (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f5LKJv800459 for ; Thu, 21 Jun 2001 16:19:59 -0400 (EDT) Received: from baloo.ne.mediaone.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by baloo.ne.mediaone.net (8.11.3/8.11.3) with ESMTP id f5LKKF428344 for ; Thu, 21 Jun 2001 16:20:15 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from davep@who.net) Message-Id: <200106212020.f5LKKF428344@baloo.ne.mediaone.net> To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Staying *really stable* in FreeBSD In-Reply-To: Message from Christoph Sold of "Thu, 21 Jun 2001 12:14:55 +0200." <3B31C91F.E330179E@i-clue.de> Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2001 16:20:15 -0400 From: "David A. Panariti" Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG How about adding another tag that always refers to the latest RELENG_x_y. Then we (paranoid and lazy types) can just cvsup that tag without needing to change from RELENG_X_Y to RELENG_X_Y+1 and RELENG_X+1_0. regards, davep To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Jun 21 13:34:57 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from active.ath.cx (ras4-p226.hfa.netvision.net.il [62.0.99.226]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BA1FE37B403 for ; Thu, 21 Jun 2001 13:34:51 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from amir@boom.org.il) Received: by active.ath.cx (Postfix, from userid 1000) id ADAD26E7A6; Thu, 21 Jun 2001 23:34:49 +0300 (IDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by active.ath.cx (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9D3B66A9D0 for ; Thu, 21 Jun 2001 23:34:49 +0300 (IDT) Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2001 23:34:49 +0300 (IDT) From: Amir Shalem X-X-Sender: To: Subject: Quake2 on FreeBSD Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I have tried lately to run quake2 on freebsd 4.3. I managed to get it running, but I had some problems with the sound: ------- sound initialization ------- /dev/dsp: Invalid argument Could not set /dev/dsp to stereo=2 I have tried looking for FAQs about installing quake on freebsd, I have found http://www.dons.net.au/~darius/quake/ page, it said quake2/quake needs sound driver capable of supporting mmap()able DMA buffers, is that the problem ? what about 5.0? thanks, Amir. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Jun 21 13:40:56 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from rajma.kniveton.com (adsl-63-197-0-77.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net [63.197.0.77]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D5E4B37B401 for ; Thu, 21 Jun 2001 13:40:53 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from TJ@Kniveton.com) Received: from Kniveton.com (eldorado.kniveton.com [192.168.1.70]) by rajma.kniveton.com (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f5LKenP90465 for ; Thu, 21 Jun 2001 13:40:51 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <3B325BAD.CB1542C8@Kniveton.com> Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2001 13:40:13 -0700 From: "T.J. Kniveton" Organization: NOKIA Research X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.76 [en] (X11; U; FreeBSD 5.0-CURRENT i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: stable@freebsd.org Subject: CPU speed wrong? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG In 4.2-RELEASE, my IBM Thinkpad T-20's CPU was correctly recognized as 700 MHz. Now with 4-STABLE, it's getting.. CPU: Pentium III/Pentium III Xeon/Celeron (547.62-MHz 686-class CPU) % uname -v FreeBSD 5.0-CURRENT #1: Sat Jun 16 15:40:25 PDT 2001 tj@eldorado.kniveton.com:/usr/src/sys/compile/ELDORADO (I don't really understand why I am getting 5.0-C kernel source in the 4.3_RELENG branch.. But anyway that probably shouldn't matter. Does anyone know why the CPU would be recognized at a lower speed? Does it have to do with it being a laptop CPU? Thanks, -- T.J. Kniveton Nokia Research Center Communications Lab To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Jun 21 13:45:37 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from clio.sc.intel.com (scfdns01.sc.intel.com [143.183.152.25]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E66AD37B409 for ; Thu, 21 Jun 2001 13:45:32 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jreynold@sedona.ch.intel.com) Received: from sedona.intel.com (sedona.ch.intel.com [143.182.218.21]) by clio.sc.intel.com (8.9.1a+p1/8.9.1/d: relay.m4,v 1.40 2001/06/06 21:14:49 root Exp $) with ESMTP id UAA24995; Thu, 21 Jun 2001 20:45:28 GMT Received: from hip186.ch.intel.com (hip186.ch.intel.com [143.182.225.68]) by sedona.intel.com (8.9.1a/8.9.1/d: sendmail.cf,v 1.14 2001/01/02 18:39:59 steved Exp $) with ESMTP id NAA17394; Thu, 21 Jun 2001 13:45:27 -0700 (MST) X-Envelope-From: jreynold@sedona.ch.intel.com Received: (from jreynold@localhost) by hip186.ch.intel.com (8.9.1a/8.9.1/d: client.m4,v 1.3 1998/09/29 16:36:11 sedayao Exp sedayao $) id QAA20359; Thu, 21 Jun 2001 16:45:28 -0400 (EDT) X-Authentication-Warning: hip186.ch.intel.com: jreynold set sender to jreynold@sedona.ch.intel.com using -f From: John Reynolds~ MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <15154.23784.439220.378890@hip186.ch.intel.com> Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2001 13:45:28 -0700 To: "T.J. Kniveton" Cc: stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: CPU speed wrong? In-Reply-To: <3B325BAD.CB1542C8@Kniveton.com> References: <3B325BAD.CB1542C8@Kniveton.com> X-Mailer: VM 6.92 under Emacs 20.7.2 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG [ On Thursday, June 21, T.J. Kniveton wrote: ] > In 4.2-RELEASE, my IBM Thinkpad T-20's CPU was correctly recognized as > 700 MHz. Now with 4-STABLE, it's getting.. > > CPU: Pentium III/Pentium III Xeon/Celeron (547.62-MHz 686-class CPU) > > % uname -v > FreeBSD 5.0-CURRENT #1: Sat Jun 16 15:40:25 PDT 2001 > tj@eldorado.kniveton.com:/usr/src/sys/compile/ELDORADO > > (I don't really understand why I am getting 5.0-C kernel source in the > 4.3_RELENG branch.. But anyway that probably shouldn't matter. Does > anyone know why the CPU would be recognized at a lower speed? Does it > have to do with it being a laptop CPU? Sounds like you have inadvertently CVSup'ed -current sources. You must have tag=RELENG_4 in your CVSup file to get 4-STABLE. Secondly, maybe somebody has committed code that utilizes the SpeedStep(tm) technology from Intel which would take your 700Mhz CPU down to 550Mhz if you were not plugged into wall power. Is the dmesg from above booting from wall power or off battery? Either way, I highly suggest that if you wanted to run 4-STABLE that you CVsup the right sources and install the right version of the OS. -current can go "poof" much more frequently than -stable can :) -Jr -- =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= | John Reynolds WCCG, CCE, (space for rent, cheap!) | | Intel Corporation MS: CH6-210 Phone: 480-554-9092 pgr: 602-868-6512 | | jreynold@sedona.ch.intel.com http://www-aec.ch.intel.com/~jreynold/ | =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Jun 21 13:48:54 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from pt-quorum.com (pt-quorum.com [209.10.167.210]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7310537B403 for ; Thu, 21 Jun 2001 13:48:50 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nuno.mailinglists@pt-quorum.com) Received: from p100-237.netc.pt ([213.30.47.100]) by pt-quorum.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id VAA12974 for ; Thu, 21 Jun 2001 21:42:12 +0100 Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2001 21:51:34 +0100 (WEST) From: Nuno Teixeira To: Subject: /var/mail permissions: 0755 or 01777 ? Message-ID: <20010621214821.C376-100000@gateway.bogus> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8BIT Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Hello to all, The FreeBSD default permissions for /var/mail are 0755. Why is that PINE says that the /var/mail directory is vulnerable and it says to change it to 01777? What are the correct permissions? Thanks very much, - -- Nuno Teixeira Dir. Técnico pt-quorum.com -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (FreeBSD) Comment: Made with pgp4pine 1.76 iD8DBQE7Ml5djwdyCmOgT8cRAnabAJ9QzV6rNzgQy6UJmbFQQ4wpAUmMEQCg7lp1 RksvD0t3pUwJbQKuwHw3B7I= =gBdB -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Jun 21 14:14:31 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from rajma.kniveton.com (adsl-63-197-0-77.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net [63.197.0.77]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8C0D937B403 for ; Thu, 21 Jun 2001 14:14:27 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from TJ@Kniveton.com) Received: from Kniveton.com (eldorado.kniveton.com [192.168.1.70]) by rajma.kniveton.com (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f5LLCKP90524; Thu, 21 Jun 2001 14:12:21 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <3B326333.AE97FE23@Kniveton.com> Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2001 14:12:19 -0700 From: "T.J. Kniveton" Organization: NOKIA Research X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.76 [en] (X11; U; FreeBSD 5.0-CURRENT i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: John Reynolds~ , Alessandro de Manzano Cc: stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: CPU speed wrong? References: <3B325BAD.CB1542C8@Kniveton.com> <15154.23784.439220.378890@hip186.ch.intel.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG John Reynolds~ wrote: > > [ On Thursday, June 21, T.J. Kniveton wrote: ] > > In 4.2-RELEASE, my IBM Thinkpad T-20's CPU was correctly recognized as > > 700 MHz. Now with 4-STABLE, it's getting.. > > > > CPU: Pentium III/Pentium III Xeon/Celeron (547.62-MHz 686-class CPU) > > > > % uname -v > > FreeBSD 5.0-CURRENT #1: Sat Jun 16 15:40:25 PDT 2001 > > tj@eldorado.kniveton.com:/usr/src/sys/compile/ELDORADO > > > > (I don't really understand why I am getting 5.0-C kernel source in the > > 4.3_RELENG branch.. But anyway that probably shouldn't matter. Does > > anyone know why the CPU would be recognized at a lower speed? Does it > > have to do with it being a laptop CPU? > > Sounds like you have inadvertently CVSup'ed -current sources. You must have > tag=RELENG_4 in your CVSup file to get 4-STABLE. Yes, I am still working on getting this cvsup process right. Initially, I followed the instructions on the freebsd web page which included a pkg_add, and that cvsuped everything and built this 5.0 kernel. After that, I removed /usr/src, copied the provided stable-supfile into /etc, and did a cvsup /etc/stable-supfile. Now, when I try to make world, it is failing at unctrl.h (as my previous message described). > > Secondly, maybe somebody has committed code that utilizes the SpeedStep(tm) > technology from Intel which would take your 700Mhz CPU down to 550Mhz if you > were not plugged into wall power. Is the dmesg from above booting from wall > power or off battery? Yes, I thought the same thing. But I am plugged in to wall power. > Either way, I highly suggest that if you wanted to run 4-STABLE that you CVsup > the right sources and install the right version of the OS. -current can go > "poof" much more frequently than -stable can :) Thanks for the help, I will work some more on trying to make sure I get the right sources. I am building another kernel from my latest cvsup'ed source, which might fix it. And I have been working for a while on trying to get this make world to complete. > > -Jr > > -- > =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= > | John Reynolds WCCG, CCE, (space for rent, cheap!) | > | Intel Corporation MS: CH6-210 Phone: 480-554-9092 pgr: 602-868-6512 | > | jreynold@sedona.ch.intel.com http://www-aec.ch.intel.com/~jreynold/ | > =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= -- T.J. Kniveton Communications Systems Lab Nokia Research Center To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Jun 21 14:26: 1 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from segfault.kiev.ua (segfault.kiev.ua [193.193.193.4]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A509A37B401 for ; Thu, 21 Jun 2001 14:25:54 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from netch@iv.nn.kiev.ua) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by segfault.kiev.ua (8) with UUCP id AJW61617; Fri, 22 Jun 2001 00:25:41 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from netch@iv.nn.kiev.ua) Received: (from netch@localhost) by iv.nn.kiev.ua (8.11.4/8.11.4) id f5LLJQJ01619; Fri, 22 Jun 2001 00:19:26 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from netch) Date: Fri, 22 Jun 2001 00:19:25 +0300 From: Valentin Nechayev To: Nuno Teixeira Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: /var/mail permissions: 0755 or 01777 ? Message-ID: <20010622001925.A1597@iv.nn.kiev.ua> References: <20010621214821.C376-100000@gateway.bogus> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20010621214821.C376-100000@gateway.bogus>; from nuno.mailinglists@pt-quorum.com on Thu, Jun 21, 2001 at 09:51:34PM +0100 X-42: On Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Thu, Jun 21, 2001 at 21:51:34, nuno.mailinglists (Nuno Teixeira) wrote about "/var/mail permissions: 0755 or 01777 ?": > The FreeBSD default permissions for /var/mail are 0755. > > Why is that PINE says that the /var/mail directory is vulnerable and it > says to change it to 01777? > > What are the correct permissions? 0755. Don't use broken Pine setup. And I suggest avoid Pine at all. See security officer's warning in Pine port. /netch To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Jun 21 14:31:46 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from segfault.kiev.ua (segfault.kiev.ua [193.193.193.4]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 338F637B401 for ; Thu, 21 Jun 2001 14:31:42 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from netch@iv.nn.kiev.ua) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by segfault.kiev.ua (8) with UUCP id AKA61618; Fri, 22 Jun 2001 00:26:00 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from netch@iv.nn.kiev.ua) Received: (from netch@localhost) by iv.nn.kiev.ua (8.11.4/8.11.4) id f5LLMna01696; Fri, 22 Jun 2001 00:22:49 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from netch) Date: Fri, 22 Jun 2001 00:22:49 +0300 From: Valentin Nechayev To: "David A. Panariti" Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Staying *really stable* in FreeBSD Message-ID: <20010622002248.B1597@iv.nn.kiev.ua> References: <200106212020.f5LKKF428344@baloo.ne.mediaone.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <200106212020.f5LKKF428344@baloo.ne.mediaone.net>; from davep@who.net on Thu, Jun 21, 2001 at 04:20:15PM -0400 X-42: On Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Thu, Jun 21, 2001 at 16:20:15, davep (David A. Panariti) wrote about "Re: Staying *really stable* in FreeBSD": > How about adding another tag that always refers to the latest > RELENG_x_y. > > Then we (paranoid and lazy types) can just cvsup that tag without > needing to change from RELENG_X_Y to RELENG_X_Y+1 and RELENG_X+1_0. Paranoia is hardly compatible with laziness. To upgrade RELENG_4_3 to RELENG_4_3 you must know that previous version is now danger. Hence you read at least announce@. If you read announce@ you can know that new release is published. Hence, you know that tag should be changed and you have to prepare for possible problems. Cut it with Occam's knife. /netch To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Jun 21 14:35: 4 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from segfault.kiev.ua (segfault.kiev.ua [193.193.193.4]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E853D37B401 for ; Thu, 21 Jun 2001 14:34:58 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from netch@iv.nn.kiev.ua) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by segfault.kiev.ua (8) with UUCP id ANK61961; Fri, 22 Jun 2001 00:34:49 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from netch@iv.nn.kiev.ua) Received: (from netch@localhost) by iv.nn.kiev.ua (8.11.4/8.11.4) id f5LLYXK02025; Fri, 22 Jun 2001 00:34:33 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from netch) Date: Fri, 22 Jun 2001 00:34:32 +0300 From: Valentin Nechayev To: Chris BeHanna Cc: FreeBSD-Stable Subject: Re: releng4 no longer -STABLE??? Message-ID: <20010622003432.D1597@iv.nn.kiev.ua> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: ; from behanna@zbzoom.net on Thu, Jun 21, 2001 at 12:22:14AM -0400 X-42: On Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Thu, Jun 21, 2001 at 00:22:14, behanna (Chris BeHanna) wrote about "Re: releng4 no longer -STABLE???": > > What is the last good stable snapshot on releng4 we can consider using > > for testing or production use? > This has been working for me: > > FreeBSD topperwein.dyndns.org 4.3-STABLE FreeBSD 4.3-STABLE #0: Tue Jun 12 09:06:55 EDT 2001 root@topperwein.dyndns.org:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/TOPPERWEIN i386 All such messages are useless and destructive without _exact_ cvsup date _parameter_. For me, RELENG_4 with date=2001.04.17.00.00.00 works well. (No `make release' of course.) /netch To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Jun 21 14:48:18 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from clmboh1-smtp3.columbus.rr.com (clmboh1-smtp3.columbus.rr.com [65.24.0.112]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 40B5937B401 for ; Thu, 21 Jun 2001 14:48:14 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from wmoran@iowna.com) Received: from iowna.com (dhcp065-024-023-038.columbus.rr.com [65.24.23.38]) by clmboh1-smtp3.columbus.rr.com (8.11.2/8.11.2) with ESMTP id f5LLiTs03194; Thu, 21 Jun 2001 17:44:29 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <3B326B4B.2ABF72D9@iowna.com> Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2001 17:46:51 -0400 From: Bill Moran X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.76 [en] (X11; U; FreeBSD 4.3-STABLE i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Valentin Nechayev Cc: Chris BeHanna , FreeBSD-Stable Subject: Re: releng4 no longer -STABLE??? References: <20010622003432.D1597@iv.nn.kiev.ua> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Valentin Nechayev wrote: > > Thu, Jun 21, 2001 at 00:22:14, behanna (Chris BeHanna) wrote about "Re: releng4 no longer -STABLE???": > > > > What is the last good stable snapshot on releng4 we can consider using > > > for testing or production use? > > This has been working for me: > > > > FreeBSD topperwein.dyndns.org 4.3-STABLE FreeBSD 4.3-STABLE #0: Tue Jun 12 09:06:55 EDT 2001 root@topperwein.dyndns.org:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/TOPPERWEIN i386 > > All such messages are useless and destructive without _exact_ cvsup date > _parameter_. > > For me, RELENG_4 with date=2001.04.17.00.00.00 works well. > (No `make release' of course.) This brings up an interesting question: How would one know the exact cvsup date if he hadn't recorded it? Does cvsup keep a log? -Bill -- If a bird in the hand is worth two in the bush, then what can I get for two hands in the bush? To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Jun 21 14:51:42 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from pt-quorum.com (pt-quorum.com [209.10.167.210]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CA4AA37B403 for ; Thu, 21 Jun 2001 14:51:38 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nuno.mailinglists@pt-quorum.com) Received: from p204-237.netc.pt ([213.30.47.204]) by pt-quorum.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id WAA14384; Thu, 21 Jun 2001 22:44:36 +0100 Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2001 22:53:57 +0100 (WEST) From: Nuno Teixeira To: Valentin Nechayev Cc: Subject: Re: /var/mail permissions: 0755 or 01777 ? In-Reply-To: <20010622001925.A1597@iv.nn.kiev.ua> Message-ID: <20010621224558.F335-100000@gateway.bogus> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8BIT Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Hello, Yes, you right. I have seen a lot of security advisories about Pine. Any way, I use it only to access my workstation local mail. To download the mail, I use fetchmail in SSL mode. In this particular case there is a security problem like you told me? I start using Pine when I came from (MS) Outlook Express about a year and this program is the best that I found with the best options to work with mail. I read a lot about Mutt 'the mongrel' but I think it isn't the best choice for newbies like me. Thanks very much, - -- Nuno Teixeira Dir. Técnico pt-quorum.com On Fri, 22 Jun 2001, Valentin Nechayev wrote: > Thu, Jun 21, 2001 at 21:51:34, nuno.mailinglists (Nuno Teixeira) wrote about "/var/mail permissions: 0755 or 01777 ?": > > > The FreeBSD default permissions for /var/mail are 0755. > > > > Why is that PINE says that the /var/mail directory is vulnerable and it > > says to change it to 01777? > > > > What are the correct permissions? > > 0755. > Don't use broken Pine setup. > And I suggest avoid Pine at all. See security officer's warning in Pine port. > > > /netch > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (FreeBSD) Comment: Made with pgp4pine 1.76 iD8DBQE7Mmz6jwdyCmOgT8cRAo12AJ99BHvDp+vtg39VEOoGUn98ST8SiQCeNPBN 7cUjGWhxpxJloziEZJaHwZs= =hF1h -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Jun 21 15:10:47 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from hrothgar.omcl.org (dsl254-009-160.sea1.dsl.speakeasy.net [216.254.9.160]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 32BF437B401 for ; Thu, 21 Jun 2001 15:10:45 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from spcoltri@omcl.org) Received: from omcl.org (qpbwes@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hrothgar.omcl.org (8.11.4/8.11.4) with ESMTP id f5LMAi814020 for ; Thu, 21 Jun 2001 15:10:44 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from spcoltri@omcl.org) Message-Id: <200106212210.f5LMAi814020@hrothgar.omcl.org> To: stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: releng4 no longer -STABLE??? Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2001 15:10:44 -0700 From: Steve Coltrin Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Bill Moran writes: >This brings up an interesting question: How would one know the exact >cvsup date if he hadn't recorded it? Does cvsup keep a log? ls -lu stable-supfile :) -spc To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Jun 21 15:25:11 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from ecx1.edifecs.com (mail.edifecs.com [207.153.149.131]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DCEE837B403 for ; Thu, 21 Jun 2001 15:25:07 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from MichaelV@EDIFECS.COM) Received: by ecx1.edifecs.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Thu, 21 Jun 2001 15:32:10 -0700 Message-ID: <36F7B20351634E4FBFFE6C6A216B30D54C4D@ecx1.edifecs.com> From: Michael VanLoon To: 'Kal Torak' , "Sergey N. Voronkov" Cc: Christoph Sold , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: RE: Microsoft uses FreeBSD Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2001 15:32:09 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Microsoft is a very big company, and management is largely bottom-up rather than top-down. Microsoft acquired Interix (a company that made a product previously known as OpenNT which replaced the Posix subsystem with a real Unix subsystem -- I used it with great success in the past for a more Unix-like environment on NT). With Interix they of course had to continue using their development environment for the Unix sub-environment, since that was how it was developed, and MSVC doesn't address that niche. So although the official company line is "GPL is evil; Linux is evil" all the little fiefdoms will do their own thing until Bill explicitly tells them otherwise. In the case of Interix, it would be hard to do it any other way unless the MSVC guys want to develop compiler tools for the Unix subsystem stuff. Just FWIW... > From: Kal Torak [mailto:kaltorak@quake.com.au] > Sent: Thursday, June 21, 2001 4:48 AM > > "Sergey N. Voronkov" wrote: > > > > First at all, if the source is GPLed then it is Open Source. But > > Open Source isn't GPL always! (See /COPYRIGHT on FreeBSD as > an example). > > > > Second one - sources of the GPLed utilities are available from > > Microsoft (see the bottom of the referenced page). So GPL terms > > of use aren't broken. > > > > So, if you don't like Microsoft (as I'm), be free to use any > > other software, but do not say they breaks any restricted licenses > > when they aren't. > > I dont think he is talking about them breaking any laws, but > M$ have this big thing about saying "open source is bad mkay"... > > Rather hypocritical of them to use said software them selfs... > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Jun 21 15:30:13 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from vixie.stac.state.tx.us (ns.dir.state.tx.us [204.64.177.5]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 69CE037B409 for ; Thu, 21 Jun 2001 15:30:04 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from unstable@vixie.stac.state.tx.us) Received: from localhost (unstable@localhost) by vixie.stac.state.tx.us (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f5LMV9N53542 for ; Thu, 21 Jun 2001 17:31:09 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from unstable@vixie.stac.state.tx.us) Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2001 17:31:09 -0500 (CDT) From: stuart nichols To: Subject: June 21 SNAPSHOT has no packages. Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG There was a snapshot today, June 21, but it still has no packages. The link points off into space, as it has since back in May. The link for packages inside 4.3-20010621-STABLE says: packages -> ../../../packages-4-release There is nothing there in ../../../ that looks like "packages*". I can go to options, tell it that I've got 4.3-RELEASE and point it to ftp.freebsd.org, but am I getting the right packages that way??? I would think that the packages would need to be getting updated on a daily basis for -STABLE, too. -- stu unstable@stac.state.tx.us Office: (512) 463-7601 FAX: (512) 475-4759 stuart nichols State Technology Assessment Center Texas Department of Information Resources 300 West 15th Street Austin TX 78744 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Jun 21 16:29:35 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from vimfuego.saarinen.org (saarinen.org [203.79.82.14]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B2BAA37B407 for ; Thu, 21 Jun 2001 16:29:33 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from juha@saarinen.org) Received: from vimfuego.saarinen.org ([192.168.1.1]) by vimfuego.saarinen.org with esmtp (Exim 3.22 #1 (Red Hack)) id 15DDtE-0008MZ-00 for ; Fri, 22 Jun 2001 11:29:32 +1200 Date: Fri, 22 Jun 2001 11:29:31 +1200 (NZST) From: Juha Saarinen To: Subject: What do these SCSI messages mean? Message-ID: X-S: Always MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG sym0:0:control msgout: 80 20 21 d. sym0:0:control msgout: 80 20 21 d. Just appeared in dmesg -- never seen it before. -- Regards, Juha PGP fingerprint: B7E1 CC52 5FCA 9756 B502 10C8 4CD8 B066 12F3 9544 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Jun 21 16:30:41 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from chmls06.mediaone.net (chmls06.mediaone.net [24.147.1.144]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0047237B401 for ; Thu, 21 Jun 2001 16:30:38 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from davep@who.net) Received: from baloo.ne.mediaone.net (panariti.ne.mediaone.net [66.30.121.126]) by chmls06.mediaone.net (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f5LNUZ812606; Thu, 21 Jun 2001 19:30:35 -0400 (EDT) Received: from baloo.ne.mediaone.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by baloo.ne.mediaone.net (8.11.3/8.11.3) with ESMTP id f5LNUn428853; Thu, 21 Jun 2001 19:30:54 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from davep@who.net) Message-Id: <200106212330.f5LNUn428853@baloo.ne.mediaone.net> To: Valentin Nechayev Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Staying *really stable* in FreeBSD In-reply-to: Your message of "Fri, 22 Jun 2001 00:22:49 +0300." <20010622002248.B1597@iv.nn.kiev.ua> Reply-To: "David A. Panariti" X-Attribution: davep Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2001 19:30:49 -0400 From: "David A. Panariti" Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG >>>>> "Valentin" == Valentin Nechayev writes: Laziness is compatible with anything when it means not doing any unnecessary work. It is not a matter of knowing it needs changing, it is a matter of changing it. Any time a procedure and be automated, it should be. It should be one's choice whether or not to use the automation, however. That's why I suggest a new tag rather than redefining an existing one. Why should I: 1) su to root 2) co -l supfile 3) edit supfile (correctly. Small chance of a typo, but non-zero vs 0% when *not* editing the file) 4) ci -u supfile when I can do: nothing. This is easier, and less prone to mistakes. Given these two lists, Occam's razor would, I think, select the zero length list as the simpler one. Regards, davep Valentin> Thu, Jun 21, 2001 at 16:20:15, davep (David A. Panariti) Valentin> wrote about "Re: Staying *really stable* in FreeBSD": >> How about adding another tag that always refers to the latest >> RELENG_x_y. >> >> Then we (paranoid and lazy types) can just cvsup that tag without >> needing to change from RELENG_X_Y to RELENG_X_Y+1 and RELENG_X+1_0. Valentin> Paranoia is hardly compatible with laziness. To upgrade Valentin> RELENG_4_3 to RELENG_4_3 you must know that previous version Valentin> is now danger. Hence you read at least announce@. If you Valentin> read announce@ you can know that new release is published. Valentin> Hence, you know that tag should be changed and you have to Valentin> prepare for possible problems. Valentin> Cut it with Occam's knife. Valentin> /netch -- "I never fail to convince an audience that the best thing they could do was to go away." To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Jun 21 16:37:33 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from apocalypse.cdsnet.net (apocalypse.cdsnet.net [63.163.68.5]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 21E9837B403 for ; Thu, 21 Jun 2001 16:37:30 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mrcpu@apocalypse.cdsnet.net) Received: (qmail 31850 invoked by uid 29999); 21 Jun 2001 23:38:08 -0000 Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2001 16:38:08 -0700 From: Jaye Mathisen To: stable@freebsd.org Subject: 3 3ware controllers? Message-ID: <20010621163808.E3743@apocalypse.cdsnet.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG 2 3ware 6800's, one 7800. The 7800 comes up (with a -stable from 5/25/01 -stable snapshot) with a "Command interrupt" right before dropping into single usermode. I'm flashing it up with the latest firmware, but I just hope there's no problems with mixing them. I'm using an Intel 440GX MB, flashed to latest BIOS. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Jun 21 16:45:29 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from easystreet.com (easystreet.com [206.26.36.40]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AF77937B401 for ; Thu, 21 Jun 2001 16:45:27 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jwatkins@firstplan.com) Received: from nightstalker ([206.129.94.230]) by easystreet.com (8.11.2/8.11.2) with SMTP id f5LNjRI02422 for ; Thu, 21 Jun 2001 16:45:27 -0700 (PDT) From: "Jason Watkins" To: "Stable" Subject: RE: Staying *really stable* in FreeBSD Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2001 16:45:24 -0700 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 In-reply-to: <200106212330.f5LNUn428853@baloo.ne.mediaone.net> Importance: Normal Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG And this would be different than -stable how? >> Then we (paranoid and lazy types) can just cvsup that tag without >> needing to change from RELENG_X_Y to RELENG_X_Y+1 and RELENG_X+1_0. Don't camoflage one problem by providing a solution to another. What you're really worried about is how stable -stable is. Address that, and things will be better than managing: -its_not_stable_but_we_pretend -stable -yet_more_stable -so_stable_its_more_stale_than_the_cheesewiz_in_my_house etc To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Jun 21 16:59:31 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from smtp.pace.edu (ntutil.pace.edu [205.232.111.9]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E3C6037B403; Thu, 21 Jun 2001 16:59:24 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from js43064n@pace.edu) Received: from stmail.pace.edu (205.232.111.7:4580) by smtp.pace.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.A8A5EB15@smtp.pace.edu>; Thu, 21 Jun 2001 19:59:25 -0400 Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2001 19:59:22 -0400 Message-Id: <200106211959.AA49807526@stmail.pace.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii From: "Jonathan Slivko" Reply-To: X-Sender: To: , , Subject: Kernel Panic X-Mailer: Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hello, I just wrote a little shell script that, on the machine I tested it on, crashed the box and forced a reboot. The contents of the script was: #!/bin/sh pine -i rm -rf $HOME/dead.letter Thats the whole script. I don't see how something like that could cause a kernel to crash. Would anyone mind trying to replicate this on a test box. If it's a security issue, i'll forward it to security when I get more information. -- Jonathan ______________________________________________ Jonathan M. Slivko Technical Support, Black Lotus Communications http://www.blacklotus.net -- check us out! ---------------------------------------------- ___________________________________________________________________ ___ Sent via the Pace University Mail system at stmail.pace.edu To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Jun 21 17: 3:47 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from awww.jeah.net (awww.jeah.net [216.111.239.130]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5115737B401; Thu, 21 Jun 2001 17:03:38 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from chris@jeah.net) Received: from localhost (chris@localhost) by awww.jeah.net (8.11.3/8.11.3) with ESMTP id f5M02v898886; Thu, 21 Jun 2001 19:02:57 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from chris@jeah.net) Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2001 19:02:56 -0500 (CDT) From: Chris Byrnes To: Jonathan Slivko Cc: , , Subject: Re: Kernel Panic In-Reply-To: <200106211959.AA49807526@stmail.pace.edu> Message-ID: <20010621190113.J98838-100000@awww.jeah.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Uh, heh. How can you rm -rf $HOME/dead.letter while pine is open? Chris Byrnes - chris@JEAH.net JEAH Communications, LLC - "Fast. Dedicated." On Thu, 21 Jun 2001, Jonathan Slivko wrote: > Hello, > > I just wrote a little shell script that, on the machine I tested > it on, crashed the box and forced a reboot. The contents of the > script was: > > #!/bin/sh > pine -i > rm -rf $HOME/dead.letter > > Thats the whole script. I don't see how something like that could > cause a kernel to crash. Would anyone mind trying to replicate > this on a test box. If it's a security issue, i'll forward it to > security when I get more information. > > -- Jonathan > > ______________________________________________ > Jonathan M. Slivko > Technical Support, Black Lotus Communications > http://www.blacklotus.net -- check us out! > ---------------------------------------------- > > ___________________________________________________________________ > ___ > Sent via the Pace University Mail system at stmail.pace.edu > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Jun 21 17: 7:34 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from vimfuego.saarinen.org (saarinen.org [203.79.82.14]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3A12637B401; Thu, 21 Jun 2001 17:07:28 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from juha@saarinen.org) Received: from vimfuego.saarinen.org ([192.168.1.1]) by vimfuego.saarinen.org with esmtp (Exim 3.22 #1 (Red Hack)) id 15DETh-0008Qh-00; Fri, 22 Jun 2001 12:07:13 +1200 Date: Fri, 22 Jun 2001 12:07:13 +1200 (NZST) From: Juha Saarinen To: Chris Byrnes Cc: Jonathan Slivko , "freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG" , "freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG" , "freebsd-security@FreeBSD.ORG" Subject: Re: Kernel Panic In-Reply-To: <20010621190113.J98838-100000@awww.jeah.net> Message-ID: X-S: Always MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG After you quit Pine? Anyway, no misbehaviour here, on a 4.2-Stable box. -- Regards, Juha PGP fingerprint: B7E1 CC52 5FCA 9756 B502 10C8 4CD8 B066 12F3 9544 On Thu, 21 Jun 2001, Chris Byrnes wrote: > Uh, heh. How can you rm -rf $HOME/dead.letter while pine is open? > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Jun 21 17: 8:25 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from winston.osd.bsdi.com (adsl-64-173-15-98.dsl.sntc01.pacbell.net [64.173.15.98]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C27B837B403 for ; Thu, 21 Jun 2001 17:08:20 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jkh@osd.bsdi.com) Received: from localhost (jkh@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by winston.osd.bsdi.com (8.11.4/8.11.3) with ESMTP id f5M06rt08768; Thu, 21 Jun 2001 17:06:53 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jkh@osd.bsdi.com) To: unstable@stac.state.tx.us Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: June 21 SNAPSHOT has no packages. In-Reply-To: References: X-Mailer: Mew version 1.94.1 on Emacs 20.7 / Mule 4.0 (HANANOEN) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <20010621170653E.jkh@osd.bsdi.com> Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2001 17:06:53 -0700 From: Jordan Hubbard X-Dispatcher: imput version 20000228(IM140) Lines: 43 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Sorry, this was a remnant of the time when stable.freebsd.org was also ftp.freebsd.org. I've fixed things again and am in the middle of grabbing a new package set as we speak. - Jordan From: stuart nichols Subject: June 21 SNAPSHOT has no packages. Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2001 17:31:09 -0500 (CDT) > There was a snapshot today, June 21, but it still > has no packages. The link points off into space, > as it has since back in May. > > The link for packages inside 4.3-20010621-STABLE says: > > packages -> ../../../packages-4-release > > There is nothing there in ../../../ that looks like "packages*". > > I can go to options, tell it that I've got 4.3-RELEASE and > point it to ftp.freebsd.org, but am I getting the right > packages that way??? I would think that the packages would > need to be getting updated on a daily basis for -STABLE, too. > > > -- > > stu > unstable@stac.state.tx.us > > Office: (512) 463-7601 > FAX: (512) 475-4759 > > stuart nichols > State Technology Assessment Center > Texas Department of Information Resources > 300 West 15th Street > Austin TX 78744 > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Jun 21 17: 8:39 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from awww.jeah.net (awww.jeah.net [216.111.239.130]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5F9E737B403; Thu, 21 Jun 2001 17:08:32 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from chris@jeah.net) Received: from localhost (chris@localhost) by awww.jeah.net (8.11.3/8.11.3) with ESMTP id f5M07ui98988; Thu, 21 Jun 2001 19:07:56 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from chris@jeah.net) Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2001 19:07:56 -0500 (CDT) From: Chris Byrnes To: Jonathan Slivko Cc: , , Subject: Re: Kernel Panic In-Reply-To: <20010621190113.J98838-100000@awww.jeah.net> Message-ID: <20010621190726.G98973-100000@awww.jeah.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Bad form to reply to your own posts, I know, but uh, ignore that last post. :P Chris Byrnes - chris@JEAH.net JEAH Communications, LLC - "Fast. Dedicated." On Thu, 21 Jun 2001, Chris Byrnes wrote: > Uh, heh. How can you rm -rf $HOME/dead.letter while pine is open? To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Jun 21 17: 9:12 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from smtp.pace.edu (ntutil.pace.edu [205.232.111.9]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8A81837B406; Thu, 21 Jun 2001 17:08:59 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from js43064n@pace.edu) Received: from stmail.pace.edu (205.232.111.7:4667) by smtp.pace.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.A8A5EBD1@smtp.pace.edu>; Thu, 21 Jun 2001 20:08:59 -0400 Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2001 20:08:57 -0400 Message-Id: <200106212008.AA488636554@stmail.pace.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii From: "Jonathan Slivko" Reply-To: X-Sender: To: Jonathan Slivko , Chris Byrnes Cc: , , Subject: Re: Kernel Panic X-Mailer: Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG It was supposed to run after pine had closed. -- Jonathan ______________________________________________ Jonathan M. Slivko Technical Support, Black Lotus Communications http://www.blacklotus.net -- check us out! ---------------------------------------------- ---------- Original Message ---------------------------------- From: Chris Byrnes Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2001 19:02:56 -0500 (CDT) >Uh, heh. How can you rm -rf $HOME/dead.letter while pine is open? > > >Chris Byrnes - chris@JEAH.net >JEAH Communications, LLC - "Fast. Dedicated." > >On Thu, 21 Jun 2001, Jonathan Slivko wrote: > >> Hello, >> >> I just wrote a little shell script that, on the machine I tested >> it on, crashed the box and forced a reboot. The contents of the >> script was: >> >> #!/bin/sh >> pine -i >> rm -rf $HOME/dead.letter >> >> Thats the whole script. I don't see how something like that could >> cause a kernel to crash. Would anyone mind trying to replicate >> this on a test box. If it's a security issue, i'll forward it to >> security when I get more information. >> >> -- Jonathan >> >> ______________________________________________ >> Jonathan M. Slivko >> Technical Support, Black Lotus Communications >> http://www.blacklotus.net -- check us out! >> ---------------------------------------------- >> >> ___________________________________________________________________ >> ___ >> Sent via the Pace University Mail system at stmail.pace.edu >> >> >> >> >> >> To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org >> with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message >> > > ___________________________________________________________________ ___ Sent via the Pace University Mail system at stmail.pace.edu To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Jun 21 17:29:47 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from server-1.visp.net (server-1.visp.net [208.8.184.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E178637B401 for ; Thu, 21 Jun 2001 17:29:41 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kgasso@visp.net) Received: from blort (blort.visp.net [208.3.136.2]) by server-1.visp.net (8.11.0/8.11.0) with SMTP id f5M0TZi13631; Thu, 21 Jun 2001 17:29:35 -0700 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" From: Kameron Gasso Organization: VISP Technologies To: Subject: Re: Kernel Panic Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2001 17:29:45 -0700 X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.2] References: <200106211959.AA49807526@stmail.pace.edu> In-Reply-To: <200106211959.AA49807526@stmail.pace.edu> Cc: stable@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <01062117294502.05297@blort> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Thursday 21 June 2001 04:59, you wrote: > Hello, > > I just wrote a little shell script that, on the machine I tested > it on, crashed the box and forced a reboot. The contents of the > script was: > > #!/bin/sh > pine -i > rm -rf $HOME/dead.letter > > Thats the whole script. I don't see how something like that could > cause a kernel to crash. Would anyone mind trying to replicate > this on a test box. If it's a security issue, i'll forward it to > security when I get more information. You might want to make sure you aren't having hardware problems such as bad ram or a horribly mangled hard disk. You ever have problems in the past with things just going *poof* while compiling from a fairly large and complex source tree? Something as simple as that (start pine in your inbox, nurk dead letter file once pine exits if it exists) shouldn't be enough to cause problems on any machine in good shape hardware-wise... Just a thought.. - Kameron To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Jun 21 18: 1:22 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from topperwein.dyndns.org (acs-24-154-28-172.zoominternet.net [24.154.28.172]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1743D37B401 for ; Thu, 21 Jun 2001 18:01:20 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from behanna@zbzoom.net) Received: from topperwein.dyndns.org (topperwein.dyndns.org [192.168.168.10]) by topperwein.dyndns.org (8.11.4/8.11.4) with ESMTP id f5M12RM07494 for ; Thu, 21 Jun 2001 21:02:27 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from behanna@zbzoom.net) Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2001 21:02:27 -0400 (EDT) From: Chris BeHanna Reply-To: Chris BeHanna To: FreeBSD-Stable Subject: Re: releng4 no longer -STABLE??? In-Reply-To: <20010622003432.D1597@iv.nn.kiev.ua> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Fri, 22 Jun 2001, Valentin Nechayev wrote: > Thu, Jun 21, 2001 at 00:22:14, behanna (Chris BeHanna) wrote about "Re: releng4 no longer -STABLE???": > > > > What is the last good stable snapshot on releng4 we can consider using > > > for testing or production use? > > This has been working for me: > > > > FreeBSD topperwein.dyndns.org 4.3-STABLE FreeBSD 4.3-STABLE #0: Tue Jun 12 09:06:55 EDT 2001 root@topperwein.dyndns.org:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/TOPPERWEIN i386 > > All such messages are useless and destructive without _exact_ cvsup date > _parameter_. I'm having a hard time sending a calm response to such an (IMHO) incorrect statement. I'll agree that my message would have been more useful with your suggested change, but I do *NOT* agree that "all such messages are useless and destructive...." In fact, they're neither. -- Chris BeHanna Software Engineer (Remove "bogus" before responding.) behanna@bogus.zbzoom.net I was raised by a pack of wild corn dogs. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Jun 21 18:28:42 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from femail4.sdc1.sfba.home.com (femail4.sdc1.sfba.home.com [24.0.95.84]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5AF0F37B401; Thu, 21 Jun 2001 18:28:36 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from bmah@employees.org) Received: from intruder.bmah.org ([24.176.204.87]) by femail4.sdc1.sfba.home.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.20 201-229-121-120-20010223) with ESMTP id <20010622012826.CXOI22642.femail4.sdc1.sfba.home.com@intruder.bmah.org>; Thu, 21 Jun 2001 18:28:26 -0700 Received: (from bmah@localhost) by intruder.bmah.org (8.11.3/8.11.3) id f5M1SME81691; Thu, 21 Jun 2001 18:28:22 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from bmah) Message-Id: <200106220128.f5M1SME81691@intruder.bmah.org> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.3.1 01/18/2001 with nmh-1.0.4 To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org, freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Cc: bmah@freebsd.org Subject: HEADS UP: RELNOTESng fixed on 4-STABLE From: bmah@freebsd.org (Bruce A. Mah) Reply-To: bmah@freebsd.org X-Face: g~c`.{#4q0"(V*b#g[i~rXgm*w;:nMfz%_RZLma)UgGN&=j`5vXoU^@n5v4:OO)c["!w)nD/!!~e4Sj7LiT'6*wZ83454H""lb{CC%T37O!!'S$S&D}sem7I[A 2V%N&+ X-Image-Url: http://www.employees.org/~bmah/Images/bmah-cisco-small.gif X-Url: http://www.employees.org/~bmah/ Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="==_Exmh_-1311060834P"; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2001 18:28:21 -0700 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG --==_Exmh_-1311060834P Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii ...I think. It's fixed enough that I can do my test builds for my own Web site, but it'll take some hours to run a "make release" test. Anyways...thanks to peter's help, 4-STABLE appears to have release documentation that will actually build now. Committers, please consider RELNOTESng on 4-STABLE to be "thawed" (un-frozen?), but remember to cvsup/cvs update first to make sure to pick up the files in their new, renamed location. Thanks, and sorry for the mess. Bruce. PS. I hope this will fix snapshot builds as well, although I'm not sure when my updates from today will take effect on the snapshot-building machine. --==_Exmh_-1311060834P Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (FreeBSD) Comment: Exmh version 2.3.1+ 05/14/2001 iD8DBQE7Mp812MoxcVugUsMRAldjAKDtY/ZUIolUDBU6P/j5AC6A+oK9OQCfWwCx u1T5h0mdRQTN6Fp8yEzlT6U= =9ZFS -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --==_Exmh_-1311060834P-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Jun 21 18:53:10 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mass.dis.org (mass.dis.org [216.240.45.41]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0DCED37B409 for ; Thu, 21 Jun 2001 18:52:58 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from msmith@mass.dis.org) Received: from mass.dis.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mass.dis.org (8.11.4/8.11.3) with ESMTP id f5M24Uw03785; Thu, 21 Jun 2001 19:04:30 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from msmith@mass.dis.org) Message-Id: <200106220204.f5M24Uw03785@mass.dis.org> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.1.1 10/15/1999 To: Jaye Mathisen Cc: stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: 3 3ware controllers? In-reply-to: Your message of "Thu, 21 Jun 2001 16:38:08 PDT." <20010621163808.E3743@apocalypse.cdsnet.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2001 19:04:30 -0700 From: Mike Smith Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > > 2 3ware 6800's, one 7800. The 7800 comes up (with a -stable > from 5/25/01 -stable snapshot) with a "Command interrupt" right before > dropping into single usermode. > > I'm flashing it up with the latest firmware, but I just hope there's > no problems with mixing them. There shouldn't be; if you get a command interrupt, it'll just mask them off. -- ... every activity meets with opposition, everyone who acts has his rivals and unfortunately opponents also. But not because people want to be opponents, rather because the tasks and relationships force people to take different points of view. [Dr. Fritz Todt] V I C T O R Y N O T V E N G E A N C E To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Jun 21 19:17:25 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from cain.gsoft.com.au (genesi.lnk.telstra.net [139.130.136.161]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5B7D737B401 for ; Thu, 21 Jun 2001 19:17:16 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from doconnor@gsoft.com.au) Received: from cain.gsoft.com.au (root@spare0.gsoft.com.au [203.38.152.114]) by cain.gsoft.com.au (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA18120; Fri, 22 Jun 2001 11:47:10 +0930 (CST) (envelope-from doconnor@gsoft.com.au) Message-ID: X-Mailer: XFMail 1.4.7 on FreeBSD X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <20010621102818.A11450@bsdguru.com> Date: Fri, 22 Jun 2001 11:47:09 +0930 (CST) From: "Daniel O'Connor" To: Ben Lovett Subject: Re: FreeBSD 4.3 on Inspiron 8000 Cc: stable@freebsd.org Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On 21-Jun-2001 Ben Lovett wrote: > Hrm... Are you using the miibus if'ied fxp driver? I am not, due to > some of the problems that arose when it was committed.. I would be > willing to try again when I next upgrade my system, but as it is working > perfectly right now, I do not wish to break anything ;) You might try > the non-miibus driver, although, I do not see how adding miibus calls > to the code could cause the system to hang, but then again, I am not a > programmer, nor do I have any understanding of what the new driver does. I am using the non MII fxp code. I am running 4.3-RC can't remember when exactly I updated (Apr 15?) > > think) - never to return either. > I have not had a chance to try anything USB, but I'll try it when I do > ;-) Ahh.. I have plenty :) > > The weird thing is that now I get SCB timeouts but the fxp can still ping.. > > weeeird :) > That is kinda weird.. Is that from another machine, or the laptop? From the laptop.. ie pinging a machine over ethernet from the laptop. > > No panic, just hangs solid - I don't know if it is possible to get a > > further > > diagnostic, but if anyone has a suggestion I am quite willing to try :) > > > I'll take your word on that.. I'm actually just using my trusty 3com 56k > pccard, but I did install the lucent shims and they do work perfectly. Hmm... well they do work for me (I have dialled up etc) but I noticed that the system would hang when redialling somewhere occassionally (damn dodgy phone lines). The ATH1 stuff was just an experiment. --- Daniel O'Connor software and network engineer for Genesis Software - http://www.gsoft.com.au "The nice thing about standards is that there are so many of them to choose from." -- Andrew Tanenbaum To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Jun 21 19:19: 3 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from cain.gsoft.com.au (genesi.lnk.telstra.net [139.130.136.161]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 13B6437B401 for ; Thu, 21 Jun 2001 19:18:59 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from doconnor@gsoft.com.au) Received: from cain.gsoft.com.au (root@spare0.gsoft.com.au [203.38.152.114]) by cain.gsoft.com.au (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA18147; Fri, 22 Jun 2001 11:48:50 +0930 (CST) (envelope-from doconnor@gsoft.com.au) Message-ID: X-Mailer: XFMail 1.4.7 on FreeBSD X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Date: Fri, 22 Jun 2001 11:48:50 +0930 (CST) From: "Daniel O'Connor" To: Amir Shalem Subject: RE: Quake2 on FreeBSD Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On 21-Jun-2001 Amir Shalem wrote: > I have tried lately to run quake2 on freebsd 4.3. > I managed to get it running, but I had some problems with the sound: > ------- sound initialization ------- > /dev/dsp: Invalid argument > Could not set /dev/dsp to stereo=2 > > I have tried looking for FAQs about installing quake on freebsd, > I have found http://www.dons.net.au/~darius/quake/ page, it said > quake2/quake needs sound driver capable of supporting mmap()able DMA > buffers, is that the problem ? Hmm, I haven't updated that page in a while :) That isn't the problem you are having though, but I haven't seen that error either :( --- Daniel O'Connor software and network engineer for Genesis Software - http://www.gsoft.com.au "The nice thing about standards is that there are so many of them to choose from." -- Andrew Tanenbaum To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Jun 21 20: 9:15 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from kendra.ne.mediaone.net (kendra.ne.mediaone.net [24.218.227.234]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C502C37B401 for ; Thu, 21 Jun 2001 20:09:11 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from avatar+pop3@kew.com) Received: from xena (xena.hh.kew.com [192.168.203.148]) by kendra.ne.mediaone.net (Postfix) with SMTP id 00E8415534; Thu, 21 Jun 2001 23:09:10 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <006c01c0fac8$b55f0380$94cba8c0@xena> From: "Drew Derbyshire" To: "David A. Panariti" , "Valentin Nechayev" Cc: References: <200106212330.f5LNUn428853@baloo.ne.mediaone.net> Subject: Re: Staying *really stable* in FreeBSD Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2001 23:09:10 -0400 Organization: Kendra Electronic Wonderworks (http://www.kew.com/kendra) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > >>>>> "Valentin" == Valentin Nechayev writes: > It is not a matter of knowing it needs changing, it is a matter of > changing it. Any time a procedure and be automated, it should be. It > should be one's choice whether or not to use the automation, however. > That's why I suggest a new tag rather than redefining an existing > one. . . . > Given these two lists, Occam's razor would, I think, select the zero > length list as the simpler one. This assumes you can safely suddenly change releases with no real human intervention (such as running mergemaster). Bad idea. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Jun 21 21: 9: 6 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from cage.simianscience.com (cage.simianscience.com [64.7.134.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B34BD37B401; Thu, 21 Jun 2001 21:09:02 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mike@sentex.net) Received: (from root@localhost) by cage.simianscience.com (8.11.4/8.11.2) id f5M491B43430; Fri, 22 Jun 2001 00:09:01 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from mike@sentex.net) Received: from chimp (fcage [192.168.0.2]) by cage.simianscience.com (8.11.4/8.11.2av) with ESMTP id f5M48sA43422; Fri, 22 Jun 2001 00:08:54 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from mike@sentex.net) Message-Id: <4.2.2.20010622000707.0152ce30@192.168.0.12> X-Sender: mdtancsa@192.168.0.12 X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.2 Date: Fri, 22 Jun 2001 00:08:42 -0400 To: Mike Smith From: Mike Tancsa Subject: Re: 3 3ware controllers? Cc: stable@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <200106220204.f5M24Uw03785@mass.dis.org> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed X-Virus-Scanned: by AMaViS perl-10 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG At 07:04 PM 6/21/2001 -0700, Mike Smith wrote: > > > > 2 3ware 6800's, one 7800. The 7800 comes up (with a -stable > >There shouldn't be; if you get a command interrupt, it'll just mask them >off. BTW, has anyone tried / used the 3ware card in RAID5 mode with 4 disks ? From what I am told, its not the most efficient to use RAID 5 on 4 disks, but the application its for needs a lot of storage space with more emphasis on reliability as opposed to speed (RAID10). ---Mike -------------------------------------------------------------------- Mike Tancsa, tel +1 519 651 3400 Network Administration, mike@sentex.net Sentex Communications www.sentex.net Cambridge, Ontario Canada www.sentex.net/mike To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Jun 21 21: 9:22 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from chmls05.mediaone.net (chmls05.mediaone.net [24.147.1.143]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B816137B406 for ; Thu, 21 Jun 2001 21:09:17 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from davep@who.net) Received: from baloo.ne.mediaone.net (panariti.ne.mediaone.net [66.30.121.126]) by chmls05.mediaone.net (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f5M49Gx13285; Fri, 22 Jun 2001 00:09:16 -0400 (EDT) Received: from baloo.ne.mediaone.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by baloo.ne.mediaone.net (8.11.3/8.11.3) with ESMTP id f5M49b429872; Fri, 22 Jun 2001 00:09:38 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from davep@who.net) Message-Id: <200106220409.f5M49b429872@baloo.ne.mediaone.net> To: "Drew Derbyshire" Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Staying *really stable* in FreeBSD In-reply-to: Your message of "Thu, 21 Jun 2001 23:09:10 EDT." <006c01c0fac8$b55f0380$94cba8c0@xena> Reply-To: "David A. Panariti" X-Attribution: davep Date: Fri, 22 Jun 2001 00:09:37 -0400 From: "David A. Panariti" Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG >>>>> "Drew" == Drew Derbyshire writes: No, I didn't say to automate the cvsup/build/merge, *just* the moving of the tag. I don't think cvsup/build/merge is automatable. But pieces of it are, like the services provided by mergemaster. I *could* do all of the comparisons and merging by hand, but instead there is a tool that does the tedious, automatable part but leaves the human in charge. The script doesn't forget to look at files, or put the merged copies in the correct place. We've reduced the our opportunity to make mistakes and reserved the right to make judgements. All I'm saying is that it would be nice for there to be a tag that identifies the source that is considered to be the most stable with the most conservative sets of changes applied. And that at any time that tag can be used. This is exactly the same as using RELENG_X_Y and changing it by hand as needed. A person interested in doing this kind of tracking will follow the mailing list, make decisions on when to cvsup, etc. They just won't edit the supfile. This is the way I'd like to stay "stable." For me, this is the best mix of stability, security and access to new features. And this would be an new tag. If you don't want to use it, don't. But don't prevent me from using it just because you don't like it. This is way too much discussion about way too simple of an idea. I should just expend the effort on automating the process locally. Does anyone know if there is a way to query all of the tags available to cvsup? Then I could get that list and look for a bump in the major or minor parts of the current RELENG tag, create a sed script and edit the supfile that way. I just hate to type, unless I'm typing code. Or blathering in emails. Fortunately, I very much prefer to code. regards, davep Drew> This assumes you can safely suddenly change releases with no Drew> real human intervention (such as running mergemaster). Bad Drew> idea. >> >>>>> "Valentin" == Valentin Nechayev writes: >> It is not a matter of knowing it needs changing, it is a matter of >> changing it. Any time a procedure and be automated, it should be. >> It should be one's choice whether or not to use the automation, >> however. That's why I suggest a new tag rather than redefining an >> existing one. Drew> . . . >> Given these two lists, Occam's razor would, I think, select the >> zero length list as the simpler one. -- Did I say 2? I lied. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Jun 21 21:13: 8 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from flood.ping.uio.no (flood.ping.uio.no [129.240.78.31]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E2A9137B401 for ; Thu, 21 Jun 2001 21:13:03 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from des@ofug.org) Received: (from des@localhost) by flood.ping.uio.no (8.9.3/8.9.3) id GAA68659; Fri, 22 Jun 2001 06:13:01 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from des@ofug.org) X-URL: http://www.ofug.org/~des/ X-Disclaimer: The views expressed in this message do not necessarily coincide with those of any organisation or company with which I am or have been affiliated. To: Thomas Stratmann Cc: Ingo Albert , stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: dumb console in single user mode References: <3B322E86.3FD9918C@ruhr-uni-bochum.de> <200106211836.f5LIaAi62897@oxid.ial.de> <3B324401.36AD7A90@ruhr-uni-bochum.de> From: Dag-Erling Smorgrav Date: 22 Jun 2001 06:13:01 +0200 In-Reply-To: <3B324401.36AD7A90@ruhr-uni-bochum.de> Message-ID: Lines: 8 User-Agent: Gnus/5.0808 (Gnus v5.8.8) Emacs/20.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Thomas Stratmann writes: > The cut&paste still refuses to cooperate. 'vidcontrol -m on'. This really belongs on -questions, not on -stable. DES -- Dag-Erling Smorgrav - des@ofug.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Jun 21 21:18:16 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mass.dis.org (mass.dis.org [216.240.45.41]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BE48837B401 for ; Thu, 21 Jun 2001 21:18:13 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from msmith@mass.dis.org) Received: from mass.dis.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mass.dis.org (8.11.4/8.11.3) with ESMTP id f5M4Tlw05112; Thu, 21 Jun 2001 21:29:47 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from msmith@mass.dis.org) Message-Id: <200106220429.f5M4Tlw05112@mass.dis.org> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.1.1 10/15/1999 To: Mike Tancsa Cc: stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: 3 3ware controllers? In-reply-to: Your message of "Fri, 22 Jun 2001 00:08:42 EDT." <4.2.2.20010622000707.0152ce30@192.168.0.12> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2001 21:29:47 -0700 From: Mike Smith Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > At 07:04 PM 6/21/2001 -0700, Mike Smith wrote: > > > > > > 2 3ware 6800's, one 7800. The 7800 comes up (with a -stable > > > >There shouldn't be; if you get a command interrupt, it'll just mask them > >off. > > > BTW, has anyone tried / used the 3ware card in RAID5 mode with 4 disks ? > From what I am told, its not the most efficient to use RAID 5 on 4 disks, > but the application its for needs a lot of storage space with more emphasis > on reliability as opposed to speed (RAID10). Yes. It works, as you'd expect. It's just not very impressive, also as you'd expect. I have a 7810 here now, and hopefully I'll get a chance to play with the RAID5 stuff a bit more. It should be at least slightly improved. -- ... every activity meets with opposition, everyone who acts has his rivals and unfortunately opponents also. But not because people want to be opponents, rather because the tasks and relationships force people to take different points of view. [Dr. Fritz Todt] V I C T O R Y N O T V E N G E A N C E To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Jun 21 21:22: 5 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from cage.simianscience.com (cage.simianscience.com [64.7.134.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C5EF937B403; Thu, 21 Jun 2001 21:22:01 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mike@sentex.net) Received: (from root@localhost) by cage.simianscience.com (8.11.4/8.11.2) id f5M4M1Y43635; Fri, 22 Jun 2001 00:22:01 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from mike@sentex.net) Received: from chimp (fcage [192.168.0.2]) by cage.simianscience.com (8.11.4/8.11.2av) with ESMTP id f5M4LuA43627; Fri, 22 Jun 2001 00:21:57 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from mike@sentex.net) Message-Id: <4.2.2.20010622002015.024056d0@192.168.0.12> X-Sender: mdtancsa@192.168.0.12 X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.2 Date: Fri, 22 Jun 2001 00:21:55 -0400 To: Mike Smith From: Mike Tancsa Subject: Re: 3 3ware controllers? Cc: stable@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <200106220429.f5M4Tlw05112@mass.dis.org> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed X-Virus-Scanned: by AMaViS perl-10 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG At 09:29 PM 6/21/2001 -0700, Mike Smith wrote: > > At 07:04 PM 6/21/2001 -0700, Mike Smith wrote: > > > > > > > > 2 3ware 6800's, one 7800. The 7800 comes up (with a -stable > > > > > >There shouldn't be; if you get a command interrupt, it'll just mask them > > >off. > > > > > > BTW, has anyone tried / used the 3ware card in RAID5 mode with 4 disks ? > > From what I am told, its not the most efficient to use RAID 5 on 4 disks, > > but the application its for needs a lot of storage space with more > emphasis > > on reliability as opposed to speed (RAID10). > >Yes. It works, as you'd expect. It's just not very impressive, also as >you'd expect. Its merely for storing big archival dump files, so speed is not so important in this application. Main thing is reliability. ---Mike -------------------------------------------------------------------- Mike Tancsa, tel +1 519 651 3400 Network Administration, mike@sentex.net Sentex Communications www.sentex.net Cambridge, Ontario Canada www.sentex.net/mike To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Jun 21 21:32:41 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from www.golsyd.net.au (golsyd.net.au [203.57.20.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BF14B37B401 for ; Thu, 21 Jun 2001 21:32:38 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kaltorak@quake.com.au) Received: from [203.164.12.28] by www.quake.com.au (NTMail 4.30.0012/AB6169.63.5724aadf) with ESMTP id juubaaaa for ; Fri, 22 Jun 2001 14:31:17 +1000 Message-ID: <3B32CAEA.91F2AB87@quake.com.au> Date: Fri, 22 Jun 2001 14:34:50 +1000 From: Kal Torak X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.73 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Daniel O'Connor Cc: Amir Shalem , freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Quake2 on FreeBSD References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Daniel O'Connor wrote: > > On 21-Jun-2001 Amir Shalem wrote: > > I have tried lately to run quake2 on freebsd 4.3. > > I managed to get it running, but I had some problems with the sound: > > ------- sound initialization ------- > > /dev/dsp: Invalid argument > > Could not set /dev/dsp to stereo=2 > > > > I have tried looking for FAQs about installing quake on freebsd, > > I have found http://www.dons.net.au/~darius/quake/ page, it said > > quake2/quake needs sound driver capable of supporting mmap()able DMA > > buffers, is that the problem ? > > Hmm, I haven't updated that page in a while :) > That isn't the problem you are having though, but I haven't seen that error > either :( Hmmm I have never been able to get sound working with quake... But my NVIDIA based card wasnt supported ether, so I didnt try to hard with the sound since I couldnt run in openGL :( But NVIDIA support is coming (nvidia.netexplorer.org) so I might look into it again, though Tribes2 looks like a good game that could benifit from some FreeBSD power :) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Jun 21 22:14:28 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from smtp9.xs4all.nl (smtp9.xs4all.nl [194.109.127.135]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9718D37B403 for ; Thu, 21 Jun 2001 22:14:25 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from _hate_spam_thunder7@xs4all.nl) Received: from list1.xs4all.nl (list1.xs4all.nl [194.109.6.52]) by smtp9.xs4all.nl (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id HAA20218 for ; Fri, 22 Jun 2001 07:14:24 +0200 (CEST) Received: (from root@localhost) by list1.xs4all.nl (8.9.3/8.9.3) id HAA25329; Fri, 22 Jun 2001 07:14:23 +0200 (CEST) From: _hate_spam_thunder7@xs4all.nl (jwk) To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Via: imploder /usr/local/lib/mail/news2mail/news2mail at list1.xs4all.nl Subject: Re: /var/mail permissions: 0755 or 01777 ? Date: 22 Jun 2001 05:14:15 GMT Organization: XS4ALL Internet BV Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <20010621224558.F335-100000@gateway.bogus> Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Thu, 21 Jun 2001 21:52:10 +0000 (UTC), Nuno Teixeira wrote: > I read a lot about Mutt 'the mongrel' but I think it isn't the best > choice for newbies like me. > Yeah well, but if you use mutt, you'll be a newbie no more :-) Jurriaan -- It's The Legendary Black Beast of Aaaaarrrrrrggghhh! Monty Python and the Holy Grail GNU/Linux 2.4.5-ac15 SMP/ReiserFS 2x1402 bogomips load av: 0.67 0.21 0.06 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Jun 21 23: 4:56 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mail.tecdigital.net (cci.tol.itesm.mx [132.254.97.16]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id E7AEE37B401 for ; Thu, 21 Jun 2001 23:04:53 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from madd@tecdigital.net) Received: (qmail 3548 invoked from network); 22 Jun 2001 06:04:40 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO midgar) (madd@127.0.0.1) by 127.0.0.1 with SMTP; 22 Jun 2001 06:04:40 -0000 Message-ID: <000901c0fae1$38ddcee0$0a00a8c0@midgar> From: "Mario Doria" To: Subject: STABLE fxp driver reliability Date: Fri, 22 Jun 2001 01:04:38 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hello, I know that the fxp driver was imported from -CURRENT a bit back; what was improved in the driver and have all the significant bugs been ironed out?. Also, is SMP in -STABLE right now better than in 4.3-RELEASE? Thanks, Mario Doria To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Jun 21 23:34:16 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com (mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [206.29.169.15]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B6E2F37B401; Thu, 21 Jun 2001 23:34:04 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) Received: from tedm.placo.com (nat-rtr.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [206.29.168.154]) by mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com (8.11.1/8.11.1) with SMTP id f5M6Y2l79146; Thu, 21 Jun 2001 23:34:02 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) From: "Ted Mittelstaedt" To: , , , Subject: RE: Kernel Panic Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2001 23:34:02 -0700 Message-ID: <004a01c0fae5$539c9780$1401a8c0@tedm.placo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 In-Reply-To: <200106211959.AA49807526@stmail.pace.edu> Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3155.0 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG That absolutely will not crash a FreeBSD system that's not got other problems. However, what I think is going on here is that the system that you ran this on has buggy disk hardware. It's probably some IDE disk, right? I've got a system here that I've tried 5 different IDE paddle cards in, and on every one I've tried installing FreeBSD and doing different operations and within about 20 minutes I had crashed it and screweged the filesystem. I finally got so annoyed I dug up an old AHA1520 SCSI card and slapped a 1GB SCSI disk on it (the system isn't intended to be doing anything fancy) and it's been solid as a rock ever since. The best conclusion I have is that the ISA bus in the system has some clock speed error that doesen't affect the SCSI disk system. Ted Mittelstaedt tedm@toybox.placo.com Author of: The FreeBSD Corporate Networker's Guide Book website: http://www.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com >-----Original Message----- >From: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG >[mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG]On Behalf Of Jonathan Slivko >Sent: Thursday, June 21, 2001 4:59 PM >To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG; freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG; >freebsd-security@FreeBSD.ORG >Subject: Kernel Panic > > >Hello, > >I just wrote a little shell script that, on the machine I tested >it on, crashed the box and forced a reboot. The contents of the >script was: > >#!/bin/sh >pine -i >rm -rf $HOME/dead.letter > >Thats the whole script. I don't see how something like that could >cause a kernel to crash. Would anyone mind trying to replicate >this on a test box. If it's a security issue, i'll forward it to >security when I get more information. > >-- Jonathan > >______________________________________________ >Jonathan M. Slivko >Technical Support, Black Lotus Communications >http://www.blacklotus.net -- check us out! >---------------------------------------------- > >___________________________________________________________________ >___ >Sent via the Pace University Mail system at stmail.pace.edu > > > > > >To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org >with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Jun 21 23:38: 2 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from bazooka.unixfreak.org (bazooka.unixfreak.org [63.198.170.138]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EFB3A37B403 for ; Thu, 21 Jun 2001 23:37:58 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dima@unixfreak.org) Received: from hornet.unixfreak.org (hornet [63.198.170.140]) by bazooka.unixfreak.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 929EA3E28 for ; Thu, 21 Jun 2001 23:37:58 -0700 (PDT) To: stable@freebsd.org Subject: HEADS UP: devfs in -stable going away soon Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2001 23:37:58 -0700 From: Dima Dorfman Message-Id: <20010622063758.929EA3E28@bazooka.unixfreak.org> Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG As previously inquired about, I'd like to remove the old, broken DEVFS from -stable (see that e-mail for the rationale). Since all the replies I got (and there were quite a few) were favorable, I'm going ahead with this. Poul-Henning hinted that there might still be people interested in it for some reason; if you're one of those people, please speak up now with why you'd like to see it stay, or forever hold your peace ;-). Assuming no reasonable objections arise, I plan to remove it in two phases: phase one will remove support code from the system, such as init trying to mount it, and other #ifdef DEVFS stuff in the kernel. (I'll send a patch which does this to -stable and -audit in a few days for review and testing.) The second phase will remove devfs-specific files such as sys/miscfs/devfs, the man pages, et al. Since no new code is being added, I don't expect any problems. The phases may be a few days apart, but the system will be buildable and runnable in between them. Again, if anybody has any objections to any of this, please speak up sooner than later. Thanks, Dima Dorfman dima@unixfreak.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Jun 21 23:56:46 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from smtp9.xs4all.nl (smtp9.xs4all.nl [194.109.127.135]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0FE4C37B401; Thu, 21 Jun 2001 23:56:41 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from wkb@freebie.xs4all.nl) Received: from freebie.xs4all.nl (freebie.xs4all.nl [213.84.32.253]) by smtp9.xs4all.nl (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA11546; Fri, 22 Jun 2001 08:56:39 +0200 (CEST) Received: (from wkb@localhost) by freebie.xs4all.nl (8.11.3/8.11.3) id f5M6udE73593; Fri, 22 Jun 2001 08:56:39 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wkb) Date: Fri, 22 Jun 2001 08:56:39 +0200 From: Wilko Bulte To: "Bruce A. Mah" Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: HEADS UP: RELNOTESng fixed on 4-STABLE Message-ID: <20010622085639.A73543@freebie.xs4all.nl> References: <200106220128.f5M1SME81691@intruder.bmah.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <200106220128.f5M1SME81691@intruder.bmah.org>; from bmah@FreeBSD.ORG on Thu, Jun 21, 2001 at 06:28:21PM -0700 X-OS: FreeBSD 4.3-STABLE X-PGP: finger wilko@freebsd.org Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Thu, Jun 21, 2001 at 06:28:21PM -0700, Bruce A. Mah wrote: > ...I think. > > It's fixed enough that I can do my test builds for my own Web site, but > it'll take some hours to run a "make release" test. > > Anyways...thanks to peter's help, 4-STABLE appears to have release > documentation that will actually build now. Committers, please Jay! Thanks Peter! -- | / o / / _ Arnhem, The Netherlands email: wilko@FreeBSD.org |/|/ / / /( (_) Bulte http://www.FreeBSD.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Jun 22 0:13:43 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from web14703.mail.yahoo.com (web14703.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.224.120]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 850E037B406 for ; Fri, 22 Jun 2001 00:13:39 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from hackr_d@yahoo.com) Message-ID: <20010622071339.61802.qmail@web14703.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [63.67.120.228] by web14703.mail.yahoo.com; Fri, 22 Jun 2001 00:13:39 PDT Date: Fri, 22 Jun 2001 00:13:39 -0700 (PDT) From: Donn Miller Subject: Re: Microsoft uses FreeBSD To: Kenneth Mays , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG --- Kenneth Mays wrote: > Microsoft focuses its attacks on Linux. They know they can't compete > head-to-head well against FreeBSD or even BSDI Internet Server on > that note > (on the server level). Actually, the reason MS hates Linux so much is because the Linux kernel is GPL'd. Secondly, the Linux community has this "destroy Microsoft" mentality (not that I blame them though). They use FreeBSD because it has the more open BSD license, which allows them to do whatever they want with the BSD code without fear of legal action. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Jun 22 1:51:56 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from h3.generalresources.com (h3.generalresources.com [211.21.66.252]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9157437B407 for ; Fri, 22 Jun 2001 01:51:52 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from hsw@acm.org) Received: from server.tucheng.generalresources.com (h1.generalresources.com [211.21.66.250]) by h3.generalresources.com (8.11.4/8.11.4) with ESMTP id f5M9CAH04200; Fri, 22 Jun 2001 17:12:10 +0800 (CST) (envelope-from hsw@acm.org) Received: from x4.tucheng.generalresources.com (x4.tucheng.generalresources.com [192.168.2.4]) by server.tucheng.generalresources.com (8.11.3/8.11.3) with ESMTP id f5M8pqI21754; Fri, 22 Jun 2001 16:51:52 +0800 (CST) (envelope-from hsw@acm.org) Received: from x4.tucheng.generalresources.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by x4.tucheng.generalresources.com (8.11.4/8.11.3) with ESMTP id f5M8q8a06056; Fri, 22 Jun 2001 16:52:09 +0800 (CST) (envelope-from hsw@acm.org) Message-Id: <200106220852.f5M8q8a06056@x4.tucheng.generalresources.com> To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Cc: KT Sin From: Christopher Hall Reply-To: Christopher Hall Subject: Re: AC97 sound codecs In-Reply-To: Message from KT Sin of "Thu, 21 Jun 2001 22:57:25 +0800." <3B320B55.8A329066@acm.org> Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit Content-type: text/plain; charset=big5 X-Operating-System: FreeBSD X-Mailer: Exmh Date: Fri, 22 Jun 2001 16:52:08 +0800 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG In message <3B320B55.8A329066@acm.org>, KT Sin writes: >For the i815E motherboard, you can try the ICH audio driver at >http://www.katsurajima.seya.yokohama.jp/ich/ > >kt > Thank you for the info - this worked on the i815E motherboard --- Christopher Hall Fax: +886-2-2795-3030 Christopher Hall Phone: +886-2-2795-5799 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Jun 22 2:13: 2 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from maile.telia.com (maile.telia.com [194.22.190.16]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 319BB37B401 for ; Fri, 22 Jun 2001 02:12:58 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from watchman@ludd.luth.se) Received: from d1o907.telia.com (d1o907.telia.com [195.252.38.241]) by maile.telia.com (8.11.2/8.11.0) with ESMTP id f5M9Cu008162; Fri, 22 Jun 2001 11:12:56 +0200 (CEST) Received: from ludd.luth.se (h55n1fls21o907.telia.com [212.181.140.55]) by d1o907.telia.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA00323; Fri, 22 Jun 2001 10:52:45 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <3B330731.C8D43DF0@ludd.luth.se> Date: Fri, 22 Jun 2001 10:52:01 +0200 From: Joachim =?iso-8859-1?Q?Str=F6mbergson?= Organization: Acne X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.76 [en] (X11; U; FreeBSD 4.3-STABLE i386) X-Accept-Language: en-US MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Donn Miller Cc: Kenneth Mays , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Microsoft uses FreeBSD References: <20010622071339.61802.qmail@web14703.mail.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Aloha! Donn Miller wrote: > > --- Kenneth Mays wrote: > > > Microsoft focuses its attacks on Linux. They know they can't compete > > head-to-head well against FreeBSD or even BSDI Internet Server on > > that note > > (on the server level). > > Actually, the reason MS hates Linux so much is because the Linux kernel > is GPL'd. Secondly, the Linux community has this "destroy Microsoft" > mentality (not that I blame them though). My 0.05 Euro on this is that Linux, not *BSD is the target because Linux is the one the public generally knows about, it's the fastest (among the others beside MS own systems) growing system and is generally perceived as the new boy in town. The GPL is just a detail MS can aim for in their FUD attacks. The business folks buying MS products are managers that (my generalisation) are technically clueless, but somewhat better dealing with numbers, dollars Euros and so on. These kinds of people react badly to words like "communism", "cancer" and other fearful words that sounds bad for business. If MS can connect (in the minds of the customers) Linux and FSF with such words and phrases, Linux will have a much harder sale. MS are always trying to establish these kinds of words, phrases and associations. "Freedom to innovate", anyone? -- Med vänlig hälsning, Cheers! Joachim Strömbergson ============================================================================ Joachim Strömbergson - ASIC designer, nice to *cute* animals. snail: phone: mail & web: Sävenäsgatan 5A +46 31 - 27 98 47 watchman@ludd.luth.se 416 72 Göteborg +46 733 75 97 02 www.ludd.luth.se/~watchman ============================================================================ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Jun 22 2:19:24 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from bumper.jellybaby.net (bumper.jellybaby.net [194.159.247.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5651537B401 for ; Fri, 22 Jun 2001 02:19:19 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from simond@bumper.jellybaby.net) Received: (from simond@localhost) by bumper.jellybaby.net (8.9.2/8.9.2) id KAA91680; Fri, 22 Jun 2001 10:19:15 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from simond) Date: Fri, 22 Jun 2001 10:19:14 +0100 From: simond@irrelevant.org To: "T.J. Kniveton" Cc: stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: CPU speed wrong? Message-ID: <20010622101914.B90496@irrelevant.org> References: <3B325BAD.CB1542C8@Kniveton.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0.1i In-Reply-To: <3B325BAD.CB1542C8@Kniveton.com>; from TJ@Kniveton.com on Thu, Jun 21, 2001 at 01:40:13PM -0700 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Thu, Jun 21, 2001 at 01:40:13PM -0700, T.J. Kniveton wrote: > In 4.2-RELEASE, my IBM Thinkpad T-20's CPU was correctly recognized as > 700 MHz. Now with 4-STABLE, it's getting.. > > CPU: Pentium III/Pentium III Xeon/Celeron (547.62-MHz 686-class CPU) > > % uname -v > FreeBSD 5.0-CURRENT #1: Sat Jun 16 15:40:25 PDT 2001 > tj@eldorado.kniveton.com:/usr/src/sys/compile/ELDORADO > > (I don't really understand why I am getting 5.0-C kernel source in the > 4.3_RELENG branch.. But anyway that probably shouldn't matter. Does > anyone know why the CPU would be recognized at a lower speed? Does it > have to do with it being a laptop CPU? If you dual boot with Windows then the cpu speed you get depends on what Windows set it to last before it got shut down, I get 500MHz if I shutdown windows when running from battery and 650MHz if I shut down from AC power, I'd love it if FreeBSD supported choosing the frequency :) -- Simon Dick simond@irrelevant.org "Why do I get this urge to go bowling everytime I see Tux?" To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Jun 22 3: 0:14 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from euripides.enigma.ie (euripides.enigma.ie [194.106.143.89]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6E78D37B401 for ; Fri, 22 Jun 2001 03:00:10 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nick-fbsdstable@netability.ie) Received: (qmail 21370 invoked by uid 1009); 22 Jun 2001 10:00:00 -0000 From: "Nick Hilliard" Date: Fri, 22 Jun 2001 11:00:00 +0100 To: stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: AC97 sound codecs Message-ID: <20010622110000.A21347@euripides.enigma.ie> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG ktsin@acm.org (KT Sin) is rumoured to have written: > For the i815E motherboard, you can try the ICH audio driver at > http://www.katsurajima.seya.yokohama.jp/ich/ Are there any plans to commit this driver to the source tree? I'm getting tired of having to manually add it in every time I cvsup. Nick To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Jun 22 3: 4:50 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mail.innovativeinternet.net (mail.innovativeinternet.net [208.244.164.7]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5B37737B401 for ; Fri, 22 Jun 2001 03:04:44 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from Harlan.Stenn@pfcs.com) Received: from pcpsj.pfcs.com (harlan.xecu.net [216.127.150.112]) by mail.innovativeinternet.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 65514275E for ; Fri, 22 Jun 2001 06:04:42 -0400 (EDT) Received: from puss.pfcs.com (puss.pfcs.com [192.52.69.46]) by pcpsj.pfcs.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6CD33D469 for ; Fri, 22 Jun 2001 06:04:39 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost.pfcs.com [127.0.0.1] (HELO puss.pfcs.com) by puss.pfcs.com (8.11.3/8.11.3) via ESMTP id for ; Fri, 22 Jun 2001 06:04:38 -0400 (EDT) To: stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: AC97 sound codecs In-Reply-To: "Nick Hilliard"'s (nick-fbsdstable@netability.ie) message dated Fri, 22 Jun 2001 11:00:00. <20010622110000.A21347@euripides.enigma.ie> X-Face: "csXK}xnnsH\h_ce`T#|pM]tG,6Xu.{3Rb\]&XJgVyTS'w{E+|-(}n:c(Cc* $cbtusxDP6T)Hr'k&zrwq0.3&~bAI~YJco[r.mE+K|(q]F=ZNXug:s6tyOk{VTqARy0#axm6BWti9C d User-Agent: EMH/1.10.0 SEMI/1.13.7 (Awazu) FLIM/1.13.2 (Kasanui) XEmacs/21.1 (patch 12) (Channel Islands) (i386--freebsd) MIME-Version: 1.0 (generated by SEMI 1.13.7 - "Awazu") Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Date: Fri, 22 Jun 2001 06:04:36 -0400 Message-ID: <5092.993204276@puss.pfcs.com> From: Harlan Stenn Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Yes, KT Sin's ich driver solved the problem I was having: I have 2 "identical" machines - on one the builtin sound card worked, and on the other it didn't. I added the ich driver and installed that kernel on the "broken" machine, and its sound card now plays .mp3 files fine. H To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Jun 22 3:32:14 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from patan.sun.com (patan.Sun.COM [192.18.98.43]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ED93237B407 for ; Fri, 22 Jun 2001 03:32:11 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ktsin@acm.org) Received: from sr71.Singapore.Sun.COM ([129.158.72.11]) by patan.sun.com (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id EAA09563; Fri, 22 Jun 2001 04:31:57 -0600 (MDT) Received: from acm.org (melati [129.158.72.183]) by sr71.Singapore.Sun.COM (8.10.2+Sun/8.10.2/ENSMAIL,v2.1p1) with ESMTP id f5MAVvK00806; Fri, 22 Jun 2001 18:31:57 +0800 (SGT) Message-ID: <3B331E9C.13DD599A@acm.org> Date: Fri, 22 Jun 2001 18:31:56 +0800 From: KT Sin X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.77 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.2.12 i386) X-Accept-Language: en, zh-TW, zh-CN, ko, ja MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Harlan Stenn Cc: stable@FreeBSD.ORG, raven@katsurajima.seya.yokohama.jp Subject: Re: AC97 sound codecs References: <5092.993204276@puss.pfcs.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi, FYI, the driver was written by Katsurajima-san, not me. kt Harlan Stenn wrote: > > > > Yes, KT Sin's ich driver solved the problem I was having: I have 2 > "identical" machines - on one the builtin sound card worked, and on the > other it didn't. I added the ich driver and installed that kernel on the > "broken" machine, and its sound card now plays .mp3 files fine. > > H > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Jun 22 3:52:35 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from green.csi.cam.ac.uk (green.csi.cam.ac.uk [131.111.8.57]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F201637B403 for ; Fri, 22 Jun 2001 03:52:27 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jmi25@cam.ac.uk) Received: from fennec.chu.cam.ac.uk ([131.111.250.98]) by green.csi.cam.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 3.22 #1) id 15DOY6-0003pQ-00 for freebsd-stable@freebsd.org; Fri, 22 Jun 2001 11:52:26 +0100 Received: from jmi by fennec.chu.cam.ac.uk with local (Exim 3.22 #2) id 15DOh8-0000Er-00; Fri, 22 Jun 2001 12:01:46 +0100 Date: Fri, 22 Jun 2001 12:01:46 +0100 From: Jonathan Irwin To: Amir Shalem Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Quake2 on FreeBSD Message-ID: <20010622120146.B562@cam.ac.uk> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: ; from amir@boom.org.il on Thu, Jun 21, 2001 at 11:34:49PM +0300 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Amir Shalem wrote: > I have tried lately to run quake2 on freebsd 4.3. > I managed to get it running, but I had some problems with the sound: > ------- sound initialization ------- > /dev/dsp: Invalid argument > Could not set /dev/dsp to stereo=2 > > I have tried looking for FAQs about installing quake on freebsd, > I have found http://www.dons.net.au/~darius/quake/ page, it said > quake2/quake needs sound driver capable of supporting mmap()able DMA > buffers, is that the problem ? The newpcm driver does support mmap()able DMA buffers, so this isn't the cause. It has something to do with the order in which the Quake sound code makes it's ioctl() calls to set up the sound card. I spent many hours fiddling with this in Quake I a few weeks ago, and I gave up before I got it working (unfortunately). My solution was to write a new snd_bsd.c, which used conventional write() calls instead, and seems to work fine (I also sorted out the includes to make it portable to Net/OpenBSD [untested]). Ask if you want a copy. The relevant lines from my dmesg (4.3-RELEASE system): sbc0: at port 0x220-0x22f irq 5 drq 1 flags 0x15 on isa0 pcm0: on sbc0 Jonathan To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Jun 22 4: 4:33 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from iclub.nsu.ru (iclub.nsu.ru [193.124.222.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5F1A037B401 for ; Fri, 22 Jun 2001 04:04:26 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from fjoe@iclub.nsu.ru) Received: from localhost (fjoe@localhost) by iclub.nsu.ru (8.11.3/8.11.3) with ESMTP id f5MB49X07346; Fri, 22 Jun 2001 18:04:09 +0700 (NSS) (envelope-from fjoe@iclub.nsu.ru) Date: Fri, 22 Jun 2001 18:04:09 +0700 (NSS) From: Max Khon To: Jonathan Irwin Cc: Amir Shalem , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Quake2 on FreeBSD In-Reply-To: <20010622120146.B562@cam.ac.uk> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG hi, there! On Fri, 22 Jun 2001, Jonathan Irwin wrote: > Amir Shalem wrote: > > > I have tried lately to run quake2 on freebsd 4.3. > > I managed to get it running, but I had some problems with the sound: > > ------- sound initialization ------- > > /dev/dsp: Invalid argument > > Could not set /dev/dsp to stereo=2 > > > > I have tried looking for FAQs about installing quake on freebsd, > > I have found http://www.dons.net.au/~darius/quake/ page, it said > > quake2/quake needs sound driver capable of supporting mmap()able DMA > > buffers, is that the problem ? > > The newpcm driver does support mmap()able DMA buffers, so this isn't > the cause. > > It has something to do with the order in which the Quake sound code > makes it's ioctl() calls to set up the sound card. I spent many hours > fiddling with this in Quake I a few weeks ago, and I gave up before I > got it working (unfortunately). My solution was to write a new > snd_bsd.c, which used conventional write() calls instead, and seems > to work fine (I also sorted out the includes to make it portable to > Net/OpenBSD [untested]). Ask if you want a copy. there were no problems with sound in Quake II on 4.2-RELEASE however /fjoe To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Jun 22 4:11:53 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from guru.mired.org (okc-27-141-144.mmcable.com [24.27.141.144]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 8691737B40A for ; Fri, 22 Jun 2001 04:11:49 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mwm@mired.org) Received: (qmail 63458 invoked by uid 100); 22 Jun 2001 09:25:07 -0000 From: Mike Meyer MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <15155.3827.672353.34621@guru.mired.org> Date: Fri, 22 Jun 2001 04:25:07 -0500 To: "David A. Panariti" Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Staying *really stable* in FreeBSD In-Reply-To: <200106220409.f5M49b429872@baloo.ne.mediaone.net> References: <20010622012040E.jkh@osd.bsdi.com> <006c01c0fac8$b55f0380$94cba8c0@xena> <200106220409.f5M49b429872@baloo.ne.mediaone.net> X-Mailer: VM 6.90 under 21.1 (patch 14) "Cuyahoga Valley" XEmacs Lucid X-face: "5Mnwy%?j>IIV\)A=):rjWL~NB2aH[}Yq8Z=u~vJ`"(,&SiLvbbz2W`;h9L,Yg`+vb1>RG% *h+%X^n0EZd>TM8_IB;a8F?(Fb"lw'IgCoyM.[Lg#r\ Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG David A. Panariti types: > All I'm saying is that it would be nice for there to be a tag that > identifies the source that is considered to be the most stable with > the most conservative sets of changes applied. And that at any time > that tag can be used. That's exactly what the RELENG_X_Y tags are. They are the conservative set of patches from the release. Having multiple different tags lets users decide when they want to make the very unstable jump from one -RELEASE + security fixes to the next. Given the recently announced release schedule: Jordan Hubbard types: > 2001-08-20: FreeBSD 4.4 release date > 2001-11-11: FreeBSD 5.0 release date [EARLY ACCESS] > 2001-12-15: FreeBSD 4.5 release date > 2002-03-15: FreeBSD 5.1 release date [GENERAL ACCESS] > 2002-04-20: FreeBSD 4.6 release date > 2002-07-15: FreeBSD 5.2 release date [BEGIN -STABLE] What is your magic tag going to be tracking on January 1st? 5.0 or 4.5? Do we need three versions of your new tag for this: one for SUPER_STABLE (tracks to 4.6 before jumping to 5.2), one for GENERAL_STABLE (jumps from 4.5 to 5.1) and one for RELEASE_STABLE (from 4.4 to 5.0)? > This is exactly the same as using RELENG_X_Y and changing it by hand > as needed. A person interested in doing this kind of tracking will > follow the mailing list, make decisions on when to cvsup, etc. They > just won't edit the supfile. This is the way I'd like to stay > "stable." For me, this is the best mix of stability, security and > access to new features. There is one critical difference between what you've described and the way things are - who decides what "as needed" is. The way things are, that's done by the person responsible for the system running the software, which is as it should be. You're trying to push that responsibility off on the release engineer. If you really want that kind of facility, you should either provide it yourself or pay someone to provide it for you. Your assumption that someone interested in doing this kind of tracking will follow the mailing list, etc. is also wrong. The fact that we have a FAQ entry for -BETA/-RC/-STABLE is enough to demonstrate that. Here you have people tracking incremental changes and getting confused by what is no more than a name change. What you're proposing is something that would make the process of tracking something - which should track a series of incremental changes - suddenly include changes that are most distinctly *not* incremental. This will cause much worse problems than regular mailstorms over nothing, which is why it's a Bad Idea(TM) and generating a lot of resistance. > This is way too much discussion about way too simple of an idea. It's generating discussion becuase it's a Bad Idea(TM). http://www.mired.org/home/mwm/ Independent WWW/Perforce/FreeBSD/Unix consultant, email for more information. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Jun 22 4:21:32 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mta03-svc.ntlworld.com (mta03-svc.ntlworld.com [62.253.162.43]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CE49037B401 for ; Fri, 22 Jun 2001 04:21:29 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from greid@FreeBSD.org) Received: from sobek.openirc.co.uk ([62.252.12.56]) by mta03-svc.ntlworld.com (InterMail vM.4.01.02.27 201-229-119-110) with ESMTP id <20010622112126.DJTT298.mta03-svc.ntlworld.com@sobek.openirc.co.uk>; Fri, 22 Jun 2001 12:21:26 +0100 Date: Fri, 22 Jun 2001 12:21:26 +0100 (BST) From: George Reid X-Sender: greid@sobek.openirc.co.uk To: Nick Hilliard Cc: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: AC97 sound codecs In-Reply-To: <20010622110000.A21347@euripides.enigma.ie> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Fri, 22 Jun 2001, Nick Hilliard wrote: > Are there any plans to commit this driver to the source tree? I'm getting > tired of having to manually add it in every time I cvsup. > > Nick We're still waiting for a board, which is hanging around in London somewhere. -- +-------------------+---------------------+ | George Reid | FreeBSD Committer | | +44 7740 197460 | greid@FreeBSD.org | +-------------------+---------------------+ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Jun 22 4:24: 5 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mail3.home.nl (mail3.home.nl [213.51.129.227]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AF26B37B403; Fri, 22 Jun 2001 04:24:01 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nascar24@home.nl) Received: from testuser ([213.51.193.168]) by mail3.home.nl (InterMail vM.4.01.03.00 201-229-121) with SMTP id <20010622105243.HDEX29984.mail3.home.nl@testuser>; Fri, 22 Jun 2001 11:52:43 +0100 Message-ID: <012d01c0fb09$7f4687a0$0900a8c0@testuser> From: "Marcel Dijk" To: , References: <004a01c0fae5$539c9780$1401a8c0@tedm.placo.com> Subject: quick cam Date: Fri, 22 Jun 2001 12:52:52 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6700 Disposition-Notification-To: "Marcel Dijk" X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6700 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hello, I have read that the 4.2 kernel has support for the QuickCam (B/W). But how can I use the quickcam under FreeBSD 4.2? TIA, Marcel To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Jun 22 4:30:24 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from ramstind.gtf.ol.no (ramstind.gtf.ol.no [128.39.174.16]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C66DF37B406 for ; Fri, 22 Jun 2001 04:30:21 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from trond@ramstind.gtf.ol.no) Received: from localhost (trond@localhost) by ramstind.gtf.ol.no (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA06979 for ; Fri, 22 Jun 2001 13:30:18 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from trond@ramstind.gtf.ol.no) Date: Fri, 22 Jun 2001 13:30:18 +0200 (CEST) From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Trond_Endrest=F8l?= To: FreeBSD stable Subject: init and securelevel Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8BIT Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I run a server with securelevel set to 1. According to the man page for init, when securelevel is set to something greater than 0, then init arrange it so that securelevel is 0 when running single user, and then set to whatever you have in your /etc/rc.conf file when running multi user. I noticed that this is no longer the case, shouldn't the man page be updated to reflect the new situation? Why is init no longer allowed to decrease the securelevel? It's rather inconvenient to edit /etc/rc.conf and set kern_securelevel_enable to NO and subsequently reboot the machine in order to do a buildworld followed by an installworld. This is by the way on RELENG_3 (3.5-STABLE). Cvsup ran today just prior to today's first attempt to do a buildworld. After editing the /etc/rc.conf and rebooting, the buildworld runs just fine. -- ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Trond Endrestøl | trond@ramstind.gtf.ol.no Patron of The Art of Computer Programming| FreeBSD 3.5-S & Pine 4.31 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Jun 22 4:35:40 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from sanson.reyes.somos.net (freyes.static.inch.com [216.223.199.224]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 31B3037B407; Fri, 22 Jun 2001 04:35:36 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from lists@natserv.com) Received: from zoraida.reyes.somos.net (zoraida.reyes.somos.net [192.168.10.6]) by sanson.reyes.somos.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id HAA79167; Fri, 22 Jun 2001 07:36:34 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from lists@natserv.com) Date: Fri, 22 Jun 2001 07:36:22 -0400 (EDT) From: Francisco Reyes X-X-Sender: To: Mike Tancsa Cc: Mike Smith , Subject: Re: 3 3ware controllers? In-Reply-To: <4.2.2.20010622000707.0152ce30@192.168.0.12> Message-ID: <20010622073429.S724-100000@zoraida.reyes.somos.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Fri, 22 Jun 2001, Mike Tancsa wrote: > At 07:04 PM 6/21/2001 -0700, Mike Smith wrote: > > > > > > 2 3ware 6800's, one 7800. The 7800 comes up (with a -stable > > > >There shouldn't be; if you get a command interrupt, it'll just mask them > >off. > > > BTW, has anyone tried / used the 3ware card in RAID5 mode with 4 disks ? > From what I am told, its not the most efficient to use RAID 5 on 4 disks, > but the application its for needs a lot of storage space with more emphasis > on reliability as opposed to speed (RAID10). I haven't personally tried Raid 5, but all reviews I see point to fairly bad performance. If you want Raid 5 consider the new Adaptec IDE controller. From benchmarks posted at www.storagereview.com it seems the adaptec is better at Raid 5, but slightly slower in Raid 10. You should try to find out however if this controller is supported by FreeBSD yet. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Jun 22 4:37:55 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from sanson.reyes.somos.net (freyes.static.inch.com [216.223.199.224]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 47AE037B403 for ; Fri, 22 Jun 2001 04:37:52 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from lists@natserv.com) Received: from zoraida.reyes.somos.net (zoraida.reyes.somos.net [192.168.10.6]) by sanson.reyes.somos.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id HAA79181; Fri, 22 Jun 2001 07:38:52 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from lists@natserv.com) Date: Fri, 22 Jun 2001 07:38:40 -0400 (EDT) From: Francisco Reyes X-X-Sender: To: Mike Tancsa Cc: Subject: Re: 3 3ware controllers? In-Reply-To: <4.2.2.20010622002015.024056d0@192.168.0.12> Message-ID: <20010622073700.Q724-100000@zoraida.reyes.somos.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Fri, 22 Jun 2001, Mike Tancsa wrote: > At 09:29 PM 6/21/2001 -0700, Mike Smith wrote: > Its merely for storing big archival dump files, so speed is not so > important in this application. Main thing is reliability. If the budget allows and it would not eat up all your space then I recommend Raid 10. So far with the 4 3ware controllers I have used I tried Raid 0,1,10. The best so far have been 1 and 10. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Jun 22 4:43:36 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from red.csi.cam.ac.uk (red.csi.cam.ac.uk [131.111.8.70]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C7DD337B406 for ; Fri, 22 Jun 2001 04:43:33 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jmi25@cam.ac.uk) Received: from fennec.chu.cam.ac.uk ([131.111.250.98]) by red.csi.cam.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 3.22 #1) id 15DPHb-0004CF-00; Fri, 22 Jun 2001 12:39:27 +0100 Received: from jmi by fennec.chu.cam.ac.uk with local (Exim 3.22 #2) id 15DPQZ-0000HT-00; Fri, 22 Jun 2001 12:48:43 +0100 Date: Fri, 22 Jun 2001 12:48:43 +0100 From: Jonathan Irwin To: Max Khon Cc: Amir Shalem , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Quake2 on FreeBSD Message-ID: <20010622124843.C562@cam.ac.uk> References: <20010622120146.B562@cam.ac.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: ; from fjoe@iclub.nsu.ru on Fri, Jun 22, 2001 at 06:04:09PM +0700 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Max Khon wrote: > hi, there! [snip] > there were no problems with sound in Quake II on 4.2-RELEASE however I don't think I ever tried on 4.2-RELEASE. I have a system running it at home so I might try it out there when I get back. I think the sound code is the same in both versions, but I have II as well so I can test both. Sounds a bit like something broke in newpcm (or alternatively Quake is broken, and triggering the problem by doing something wrong with the ioctl()s, which is more likely). Jonathan To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Jun 22 4:44:18 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from cage.simianscience.com (cage.simianscience.com [64.7.134.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5EB2237B403 for ; Fri, 22 Jun 2001 04:44:12 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mike@sentex.net) Received: (from root@localhost) by cage.simianscience.com (8.11.4/8.11.2) id f5MBiBC46007; Fri, 22 Jun 2001 07:44:11 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from mike@sentex.net) Received: from chimp (fcage [192.168.0.2]) by cage.simianscience.com (8.11.4/8.11.2av) with ESMTP id f5MBi3A45989; Fri, 22 Jun 2001 07:44:04 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from mike@sentex.net) Message-Id: <4.2.2.20010622073944.02e85978@192.168.0.12> X-Sender: mdtancsa@192.168.0.12 X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.2 Date: Fri, 22 Jun 2001 07:44:02 -0400 To: "Mario Doria" , From: Mike Tancsa Subject: Re: STABLE fxp driver reliability In-Reply-To: <000901c0fae1$38ddcee0$0a00a8c0@midgar> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed X-Virus-Scanned: by AMaViS perl-10 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG At 01:04 AM 6/22/2001 -0500, Mario Doria wrote: >Hello, > >I know that the fxp driver was imported from -CURRENT a bit back; what was >improved in the driver and have all the significant bugs been ironed out?. >Also, is SMP in -STABLE right now better than in 4.3-RELEASE? It was mostly changes to allow new versions of the card to function period. The bugs people are talking about are mostly with particular versions of the card. See recent threads which identify / discuss those specific revisions/versions. A few other people have reported problems, but its not clear if thats due to some other bug/problem they are tripping on. Besides, its not difficult to use the old version of the driver if you really want to. ---Mike -------------------------------------------------------------------- Mike Tancsa, tel +1 519 651 3400 Network Administration, mike@sentex.net Sentex Communications www.sentex.net Cambridge, Ontario Canada www.sentex.net/mike To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Jun 22 5:12:44 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mailg.telia.com (mailg.telia.com [194.22.194.26]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 14D3337B401 for ; Fri, 22 Jun 2001 05:12:39 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ertr1013@student.uu.se) Received: from d1o913.telia.com (d1o913.telia.com [195.252.44.241]) by mailg.telia.com (8.11.2/8.11.0) with ESMTP id f5MCCbV12968 for ; Fri, 22 Jun 2001 14:12:37 +0200 (CEST) Received: from ertr1013.student.uu.se (h185n2fls20o913.telia.com [212.181.163.185]) by d1o913.telia.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id OAA07938 for ; Fri, 22 Jun 2001 14:12:36 +0200 (CEST) Received: (qmail 39049 invoked by uid 1001); 22 Jun 2001 12:12:05 -0000 Date: Fri, 22 Jun 2001 14:12:05 +0200 From: Erik Trulsson To: Trond =?iso-8859-1?Q?Endrest=F8l?= Cc: FreeBSD stable Subject: Re: init and securelevel Message-ID: <20010622141205.A38969@student.uu.se> Mail-Followup-To: Trond =?iso-8859-1?Q?Endrest=F8l?= , FreeBSD stable References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.19i Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Fri, Jun 22, 2001 at 01:30:18PM +0200, Trond Endrest=F8l wrote: > I run a server with securelevel set to 1. >=20 > According to the man page for init, when securelevel is set to > something greater than 0, then init arrange it so that securelevel is > 0 when running single user, and then set to whatever you have in your > /etc/rc.conf file when running multi user. Almost. It is 0 when *booting* into single-user mode. If you first go to multi-user mode and then drop into single-user mode the securelevel will not be lowered. >=20 > I noticed that this is no longer the case, shouldn't the man page be > updated to reflect the new situation? >=20 The manpage describes the situation correctly. Note the part that says: Any super-user process can raise the security level, but no process can lower it. init is a (super-user) process and can therefore raise the securelevel but not lower it. > Why is init no longer allowed to decrease the securelevel? >=20 It has never been allowed to do that. The *only* way to decrease the securelevel is to reboot. > It's rather inconvenient to edit /etc/rc.conf and set > kern_securelevel_enable to NO and subsequently reboot the machine in > order to do a buildworld followed by an installworld. Yes, it is inconvenient. Security and convenience are usually mutually exclusive concepts. >=20 > This is by the way on RELENG_3 (3.5-STABLE). >=20 > Cvsup ran today just prior to today's first attempt to do a > buildworld. After editing the /etc/rc.conf and rebooting, the > buildworld runs just fine. >=20 --=20 Erik Trulsson ertr1013@student.uu.se To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Jun 22 5:17:44 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from nu.cuk.nu (nu.nu.cuk.nu [212.30.95.50]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 53EF237B401 for ; Fri, 22 Jun 2001 05:17:41 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from cuk@xenya.si) Received: from localhost (localhost.nu.cuk.nu [127.0.0.1]) by nu.cuk.nu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 13C721ABCC for ; Fri, 22 Jun 2001 14:17:48 +0200 (CEST) Received: from xenya.si (unknown [192.168.1.203]) by nu.cuk.nu (Postfix) with ESMTP id E83371ABCB for ; Fri, 22 Jun 2001 14:17:46 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <3B333738.FC383A20@xenya.si> Date: Fri, 22 Jun 2001 14:16:56 +0200 From: Marko Cuk X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.77 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: NFS Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-2 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by AMaViS perl-10 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Does anyone know, how to make remount NFS dir ? Example: I have one box wich has mounted BOX:/data on /data (nfs) and I'd like to make another computer to access that /data on previosly mounted box, not from original BOX source. Is that possible ? Tnx, Cuk To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Jun 22 5:20:10 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from sigma.buy.pl (sigma.buy.pl [213.77.43.210]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0A12537B401 for ; Fri, 22 Jun 2001 05:20:08 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from spaceman@sigma.buy.pl) Received: by sigma.buy.pl (Postfix, from userid 1002) id 0A13C7212B; Fri, 22 Jun 2001 14:19:31 +0200 (CEST) Date: Fri, 22 Jun 2001 14:19:31 +0200 From: Karol Makowski To: Marko Cuk Cc: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: NFS Message-ID: <20010622141931.A3531@sigma.buy.pl> References: <3B333738.FC383A20@xenya.si> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-2 Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <3B333738.FC383A20@xenya.si> User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.18i X-Echelon: Bombing, President, Terrorism, Hacking Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Fri, 2001-06-22 at 14:16:56, Marko Cuk wrote: [cut] Marko> and I'd like to make another computer to access that /data on previosly Marko> mounted box, not from original BOX source. Sure it's possiblem export it via NFS :-> -- Karol Makowski Click And Buy Ltd. http://www.buy.pl To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Jun 22 6: 3:42 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from lexx.local (pc1-reda3-0-cust222.bre.cable.ntl.com [213.105.80.222]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1F52637B401; Fri, 22 Jun 2001 06:03:32 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jon@witchspace.com) Received: from witchspace.com (localhost.local [127.0.0.1]) by lexx.local (8.11.3/8.11.3) with ESMTP id f5MD4pt10899; Fri, 22 Jun 2001 14:04:51 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from jon@witchspace.com) Message-ID: <3B334273.B205876A@witchspace.com> Date: Fri, 22 Jun 2001 14:04:51 +0100 From: Jonathan Belson X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.77 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.2.12 i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Marcel Dijk Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: quick cam References: <004a01c0fae5$539c9780$1401a8c0@tedm.placo.com> <012d01c0fb09$7f4687a0$0900a8c0@testuser> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Marcel Dijk wrote: > > Hello, > > I have read that the 4.2 kernel has support for the QuickCam (B/W). But how > can I use the quickcam under FreeBSD 4.2? Which model and which interface? -- C-YA Jon To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Jun 22 6:43:41 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from sunu422.rz.ruhr-uni-bochum.de (sunu422.rz.ruhr-uni-bochum.de [134.147.64.14]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 974C237B406 for ; Fri, 22 Jun 2001 06:43:36 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from thomas.stratmann@ruhr-uni-bochum.de) Received: (qmail 10466 invoked by alias); 22 Jun 2001 13:43:35 -0000 Received: (qmail 10438 invoked from network); 22 Jun 2001 13:43:35 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ruhr-uni-bochum.de) (134.147.159.3) by mailhost.rz.ruhr-uni-bochum.de with SMTP; 22 Jun 2001 13:43:35 -0000 Message-ID: <3B334D4A.2BE4492A@ruhr-uni-bochum.de> Date: Fri, 22 Jun 2001 15:51:06 +0200 From: Thomas Stratmann X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.76 [en] (X11; U; FreeBSD 4.2-STABLE i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Dag-Erling Smorgrav Cc: stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: cut&paste in single user mode (was: dumb console in single user mode) References: <3B322E86.3FD9918C@ruhr-uni-bochum.de> <200106211836.f5LIaAi62897@oxid.ial.de> <3B324401.36AD7A90@ruhr-uni-bochum.de> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi, Dag-Erling Smorgrav wrote: > > Thomas Stratmann writes: > > The cut&paste still refuses to cooperate. > > 'vidcontrol -m on'. This really belongs on -questions, not on -stable. The mousepointer definitively WAS on (I remember toggling it with vidcontrol, but it had been on before), the only thing that does not work is pasting with the middle button (whether copying with button 1 works I cannot check, since this needs pasting). And YES, I DO have 3button emu on (moused is running with exactly the same options as in multi user mode, including -3, and the opts are in the order given in the manpage). Sorry if this turns out to be a trivial problem to be found in -questions, but at the moment this seems to be rather tricky. I just suspected that the chance of anyone having had this problem before listening on -stable is higher. Regards Thomas To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Jun 22 7:15: 7 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from haali.cs.msu.ru (haali.po.cs.msu.su [158.250.16.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C0A2437B403 for ; Fri, 22 Jun 2001 07:14:55 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mike@haali.cs.msu.ru) Received: (from mike@localhost) by haali.cs.msu.ru (8.9.3/8.9.3) id SAA06558 for freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG; Fri, 22 Jun 2001 18:14:20 +0400 (MSD) (envelope-from mike) Date: Fri, 22 Jun 2001 18:14:19 +0400 From: "Mike E. Matsnev" To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: hw.ata.tags, tuning(7), and IBM 60GXP drives (ATTN: Matt Dillon?) Message-ID: <20010622181419.A6532@haali.cs.msu.ru> References: <20010619114836.E70285@malkavian.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <20010619114836.E70285@malkavian.org>; from rbw@myplace.org on Tue, Jun 19, 2001 at 11:48:36AM -0700 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Tue, Jun 19, 2001 at 11:48:36AM -0700, brian j. peterson wrote: > the tuning(7) manpage states that IBM DPTA and DTLA drives support the > hw.ata.tags feature. it also recommends against purchasing such drives > because of quality control concerns. has anyone had a chance to look at > the 60GXP(*) drives and confirm both their support for hw.ata.tags and > their quality (or lack thereof)? > > * - note that IBM has changed their hard drive model naming conventions > http://www.storage.ibm.com/techsup/hddtech/modnum.htm I have such a thing at home (IC35L040), after adding the string to the ata driver tagged queue capabilities were recognized and the drive works fine so far. /Mike To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Jun 22 7:44:39 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mail.webmonster.de (datasink.webmonster.de [194.162.162.209]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 44A7137B403 for ; Fri, 22 Jun 2001 07:44:32 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from karsten@rohrbach.de) Received: (qmail 73563 invoked by uid 1000); 22 Jun 2001 14:44:53 -0000 Date: Fri, 22 Jun 2001 16:44:53 +0200 From: "Karsten W. Rohrbach" To: Nuno Teixeira Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: /var/mail permissions: 0755 or 01777 ? Message-ID: <20010622164453.J64624@mail.webmonster.de> References: <20010621214821.C376-100000@gateway.bogus> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-md5; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="ogUXNSQj4OI1q3LQ" Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <20010621214821.C376-100000@gateway.bogus>; from nuno.mailinglists@pt-quorum.com on Thu, Jun 21, 2001 at 09:51:34PM +0100 X-Arbitrary-Number-Of-The-Day: 42 X-URL: http://www.webmonster.de/ X-Disclaimer: My opinions do not necessarily represent those of my employer Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG --ogUXNSQj4OI1q3LQ Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Nuno Teixeira(nuno.mailinglists@pt-quorum.com)@2001.06.21 21:51:34 +0000: > Hello to all, >=20 > The FreeBSD default permissions for /var/mail are 0755. >=20 > Why is that PINE says that the /var/mail directory is vulnerable and it > says to change it to 01777? >=20 > What are the correct permissions? use Maildir faster, simpler, secure -- simply put: better ;-) =2E..and avoid uwashington code (pine, uw-imap, ...) /k --=20 > question =3D ( to ) ? be : ! be; // Wm. Shakespeare KR433/KR11-RIPE -- WebMonster Community Founder -- nGENn GmbH Senior Techie http://www.webmonster.de/ -- ftp://ftp.webmonster.de/ -- http://www.ngenn.n= et/ karsten&rohrbach.de -- alpha&ngenn.net -- alpha&scene.org -- catch@spam.de GnuPG 0x2964BF46 2001-03-15 42F9 9FFF 50D4 2F38 DBEE DF22 3340 4F4E 2964 B= F46 Please do not remove my address from To: and Cc: fields in mailing lists. 1= 0x --ogUXNSQj4OI1q3LQ Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (FreeBSD) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE7M1nlM0BPTilkv0YRAvTOAKC5QYHCaQpF0Ldm8d9pgQjucgk1DwCgtNi/ 3Z6UFWLWs5O2GqwteUqxQyo= =qEaI -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --ogUXNSQj4OI1q3LQ-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Jun 22 8:35:45 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from dmz.harmonic.co.il (moon.harmonic.co.il [192.116.140.65]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 972C137B401 for ; Fri, 22 Jun 2001 08:35:41 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from roman@harmonic.co.il) Received: (from http@localhost) by dmz.harmonic.co.il (8.11.1/8.11.1) id f5MFcI136777; Fri, 22 Jun 2001 18:38:18 +0300 (IDT) (envelope-from roman@harmonic.co.il) To: Christopher Hall Subject: Re: AC97 sound codecs Message-ID: <993224298.3b33666ab1ea6@webmail.harmonic.co.il> Date: Fri, 22 Jun 2001 18:38:18 +0300 (IDT) From: Roman Shterenzon Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG, KT Sin References: <200106220852.f5M8q8a06056@x4.tucheng.generalresources.com> In-Reply-To: <200106220852.f5M8q8a06056@x4.tucheng.generalresources.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit User-Agent: IMP/PHP IMAP webmail program 2.2.5 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I'm using this driver at work on P4 intel motherboard. Perhaps it should be imported to the tree? Quoting Christopher Hall : > > In message <3B320B55.8A329066@acm.org>, > KT Sin writes: > >For the i815E motherboard, you can try the ICH audio driver at > >http://www.katsurajima.seya.yokohama.jp/ich/ > > > >kt > > > > Thank you for the info - this worked on the i815E motherboard > > --- > Christopher Hall Fax: > +886-2-2795-3030 > Christopher Hall Phone: > +886-2-2795-5799 > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message > --Roman Shterenzon, UNIX System Administrator and Consultant [ Xpert UNIX Systems Ltd., Herzlia, Israel. Tel: +972-9-9522361 ] To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Jun 22 8:37:43 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from netsrvr.ami.com.au (netsrvr.ami.com.au [203.55.31.38]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1C86B37B406 for ; Fri, 22 Jun 2001 08:37:35 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from summer@os2.ami.com.au) Received: from dugite.os2.ami.com.au (IDENT:root@c0s17.ami.com.au [203.55.31.82]) by netsrvr.ami.com.au (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id XAA31632 for ; Fri, 22 Jun 2001 23:37:30 +0800 Received: from possum.os2.ami.com.au (possum.os2.ami.com.au [192.168.1.6]) by dugite.os2.ami.com.au (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f5MFbTV28723 for ; Fri, 22 Jun 2001 23:37:29 +0800 Received: from possum.os2.ami.com.au (summer@localhost) by possum.os2.ami.com.au (8.11.2/8.11.2) with ESMTP id f5LNLV103660 for ; Fri, 22 Jun 2001 07:21:31 +0800 Message-Id: <200106212321.f5LNLV103660@possum.os2.ami.com.au> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.2 06/23/2000 with nmh-1.0.4 To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Staying *really stable* in FreeBSD In-Reply-To: Your message of "Fri, 22 Jun 2001 00:22:49 +0300." <20010622002248.B1597@iv.nn.kiev.ua> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Fri, 22 Jun 2001 07:21:29 +0800 From: John Summerfield Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > > Cut it with Occam's knife. A small point I know, but "Occam's Razor." we used to have a radio program with the name. Razors are perceived (generally correctly in my experience) as being sharper than knives. -- Cheers John Summerfield Microsoft's most solid OS: http://www.geocities.com/rcwoolley/ Note: mail delivered to me is deemed to be intended for me, for my disposition. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Jun 22 8:41:15 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from plab.ku.dk (plab.ku.dk [130.225.105.65]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9033137B403 for ; Fri, 22 Jun 2001 08:41:11 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from postmaster@plab.ku.dk) Received: (from root@localhost) by plab.ku.dk (8.11.3/8.9.3) id f5MFfAg49477 for freebsd-stable@freebsd.org.AVP; Fri, 22 Jun 2001 17:41:10 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from postmaster@plab.ku.dk) Received: from raven.plab.ku.dk (raven.plab.ku.dk [130.225.105.67]) by plab.ku.dk (8.11.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id f5MFfA949469 for ; Fri, 22 Jun 2001 17:41:10 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from postmaster@plab.ku.dk) In-Reply-To: "Jason Watkins"'s message of "Thu, 21 Jun 2001 16:45:24 -0700" Subject: Re: Staying *really stable* in FreeBSD Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit References: To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org From: Dmitry Karasik Keywords: 2001334874 X-Comment-To: "Jason Watkins" Content-Type: text/plain; charset="koi8-r" Lines: 24 Mime-Version: 1.0 Date: 22 Jun 2001 17:40:03 +0200 X-Mailer: Mail::Mailer[v1.18] Net::SMTP[v2.13] Message-Id: Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi Jason! On 21 Jun 01 at 16:45, "Jason" (Jason Watkins) wrote: Jason> Don't camoflage one problem by providing a solution to Jason> another. What you're really worried about is how stable -stable Jason> is. Address that, and things will be better than managing: Jason> -its_not_stable_but_we_pretend -stable -yet_more_stable Jason> -so_stable_its_more_stale_than_the_cheesewiz_in_my_house Well, instead of criticizing the only decent proposition in the thread you all people could invent something that works. But no one wants to, that's the point. -- Sincerely, Dmitry --- www.karasik.eu.org --- Life ain't fair, but the root password helps. - BOFH To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Jun 22 8:56:21 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from smtp.pace.edu (ntutil.pace.edu [205.232.111.9]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ACD0C37B401; Fri, 22 Jun 2001 08:56:07 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from js43064n@pace.edu) Received: from stmail.pace.edu (205.232.111.7:3826) by smtp.pace.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.A8A628C4@smtp.pace.edu>; Fri, 22 Jun 2001 11:56:06 -0400 Date: Fri, 22 Jun 2001 11:56:04 -0400 Message-Id: <200106221156.AA442106040@stmail.pace.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii From: "Jonathan Slivko" Reply-To: X-Sender: To: , , , , "Ted Mittelstaedt" Subject: RE: Kernel Panic X-Mailer: Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I think I see what caused the kernel to crash. What happened was this, I believe, is that since I didn't specify the regular pine binary, the script just loaded itself, thus throwing it into a loop. It's really a sad situation. -- Jonathan ______________________________________________ Jonathan M. Slivko Technical Support, Black Lotus Communications http://www.blacklotus.net -- check us out! ---------------------------------------------- ---------- Original Message ---------------------------------- From: "Ted Mittelstaedt" Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2001 23:34:02 -0700 >That absolutely will not crash a FreeBSD system that's not >got other problems. > >However, what I think is going on here is that the system that >you ran this on has buggy disk hardware. It's probably some >IDE disk, right? > >I've got a system here that I've tried 5 different IDE paddle >cards in, and on every one I've tried installing FreeBSD and >doing different operations and within about 20 minutes I >had crashed it and screweged the filesystem. > >I finally got so annoyed I dug up an old AHA1520 SCSI card >and slapped a 1GB SCSI disk on it (the system isn't intended >to be doing anything fancy) and it's been solid as a rock >ever since. The best conclusion I have is that the ISA bus >in the system has some clock speed error that doesen't affect >the SCSI disk system. > >Ted Mittelstaedt tedm@toybox.placo.com >Author of: The FreeBSD Corporate Networker's Guide >Book website: http://www.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com > > >>-----Original Message----- >>From: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG >>[mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG]On Behalf Of Jonathan Slivko >>Sent: Thursday, June 21, 2001 4:59 PM >>To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG; freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG; >>freebsd-security@FreeBSD.ORG >>Subject: Kernel Panic >> >> >>Hello, >> >>I just wrote a little shell script that, on the machine I tested >>it on, crashed the box and forced a reboot. The contents of the >>script was: >> >>#!/bin/sh >>pine -i >>rm -rf $HOME/dead.letter >> >>Thats the whole script. I don't see how something like that could >>cause a kernel to crash. Would anyone mind trying to replicate >>this on a test box. If it's a security issue, i'll forward it to >>security when I get more information. >> >>-- Jonathan >> >>______________________________________________ >>Jonathan M. Slivko >>Technical Support, Black Lotus Communications >>http://www.blacklotus.net -- check us out! >>---------------------------------------------- >> >>_________________________________________________________________ __ >>___ >>Sent via the Pace University Mail system at stmail.pace.edu >> >> >> >> >> >>To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org >>with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message >> > >To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org >with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message > ___________________________________________________________________ ___ Sent via the Pace University Mail system at stmail.pace.edu To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Jun 22 9:17:47 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from vilnya.demon.co.uk (vilnya.demon.co.uk [158.152.19.238]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A13B337B406 for ; Fri, 22 Jun 2001 09:17:38 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gandalf@vilnya.demon.co.uk) Received: from haveblue (haveblue.rings [10.2.4.5]) by vilnya.demon.co.uk (Postfix) with SMTP id 250E0D96E; Fri, 22 Jun 2001 17:17:36 +0100 (BST) Message-ID: <002601c0fb37$1c908420$0504020a@haveblue> From: "Cameron Grant" To: "Christopher Hall" , References: <200106210726.f5L7Q4o84210@x4.tucheng.generalresources.com> Subject: Re: AC97 sound codecs Date: Fri, 22 Jun 2001 17:19:28 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2462.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2462.0000 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > Is the AC97 sound system supported on on -stable. yes. > 1. i815E/Celeron motherboard, AD1885 codec > 2. SiS 730S/Duron Motherboard, ALC200 codec > I found that in sys/dev/sound/pcm/ac97.c has a list of AC97 codecs > and should print a messge for the codec. > > I just get a "unknown card" message from boot -v > The BIOS listed same ID numbers as "Multmedia Device" > There were no ac97 related messages in the boot -v listing. > > The sound driver file for -current shows both these codecs (and others) you misunderstand the purpose of ac97. ac97 provides a standard interface between a digital audio controller and the analogue world. it does not provide any direct interface to the rest of the computer. therefore, while the audio controller<->codec interface can be supported with generalised code, it is reliant on having a driver for the audio controller. an i810/i815 driver will be committed once my i815 motherboard arrives. no driver is currently planned for sis630/730 or ali motherboards due to lack of hardware and lack of funds. the audio controller on these boards is very similar to the trident 4dwave. no driver is planned for the via8233 for the same reason. i will accept driver submissions for any controller not currently supported, or donations of any sound related hardware including motherboards with onboard sound, soundcards, internal/external midi units, etc. i'm especially interested in hardware that we don't currently support although working hardware is always useful for regression testing. however, if you have hardware which is not supported but information exists to allow its support, and you are not prepared to contribute a driver or donate equivalent hardware so that i can write a driver without having to purchase it at my own personal expense then please a) check list archives of freebsd-multimedia to ensure that i know said hardware exists, and b) be patient and hope that someone else is more generous than you or that i find the money to invest in it myself. this is not just directed at you, mr hall. it applies to everyone that i have observed asking about the same hardware time and time again. and lest some of you think otherwise, digital audio support has had exactly one person behind it for almost two years- me. i now have orion and greid assisting me, but we still have very limited resources. we're not getting paid for this, and we do have other things to do so our time is far from limitless. -cg To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Jun 22 9:20:41 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from chmls05.mediaone.net (chmls05.mediaone.net [24.147.1.143]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 09BE837B40A for ; Fri, 22 Jun 2001 09:20:35 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from davep@who.net) Received: from baloo.ne.mediaone.net (panariti.ne.mediaone.net [66.30.121.126]) by chmls05.mediaone.net (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f5MGKXx25249 for ; Fri, 22 Jun 2001 12:20:33 -0400 (EDT) Received: from baloo.ne.mediaone.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by baloo.ne.mediaone.net (8.11.3/8.11.3) with ESMTP id f5MGL2435108 for ; Fri, 22 Jun 2001 12:21:03 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from davep@who.net) Message-Id: <200106221621.f5MGL2435108@baloo.ne.mediaone.net> To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Staying *really stable* in FreeBSD Reply-To: "David A. Panariti" X-Attribution: davep Date: Fri, 22 Jun 2001 12:21:02 -0400 From: "David A. Panariti" Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Ok, last try. I'm not trying to push responsibility off on anyone. There will be in infinitesmal amount of work involved. The tag points to the RELENG_X_Y tag with the highest X primarily and the highest Y secondarily. That's it. No more. If someone has decided to create a new RELENG_X_Y then no one makes a decision to move the "magic" tag. There is an algorithm. That's why it is too simple to waste time on. I've seen a lot of traffic from people who don't like the instability of STABLE. Then someone mentioned tracking RELENG_4_3 then moving to RELENG_4_4_RELEASE, then to RELENG_4_4. I thought this sounded like nice compromise of features vs stability. Then I thought, wouldn't it be nice if it was automatic? If a computer can do it, I don't want to waste my time on it. Hence the email. It is just another way for people to track sources in some way they are comfortable with. The delta of changes is not the issue, it is their *stability*. If people don't want to track this tag, then they don't have to. I don't track - -CURRENT, but I don't think it shouldn't be allowed to exist. I thought that if two people wanted something like this, then more might, and it might prevent some tracking problems. No version change confusion: "I'm tracking MAGIC_VERSION and uname -a shows that. No - -RC/BETA/etc confusion. And, hey, it compiles. And works. No need to send mail to find out how to fix it. The fact that most people talk about -STABLE unqualified with a version number and that the name of this list is freebsd-stable, again unqualified with a version number, seems to imply that people think in terms of a single stable stream of changes to FreeBSD. I think it would be nice to tag that stream of stable changes with a single tag. Again, people would be free to ignore it and track any RELENG_X_Y they choose, or any other tag they choose. The only issue I see is when a RELENG_X_Y appears after an RELENG_X+1_Z has begun. My choice is highest X wins. Since the RELENG_X_Y branches are considered most stable, then RELENG_X_Y must be as *stable* as RELENG_X+1_Z, and the tie breaker for me is more features and so a move the the X+1 version. A personal preference, I admit. Like I said before, I would be more than happy to do it myself, if I had programmatic access to all tags. Here's an "AI" program to make the "decision": #!/usr/bin/env perl @sv = sort(@ARGV); print @sv[$#sv], "\n"; exit(0) Once again, this is why it is too trivial to type so much about. This may be a bad and stupid idea, but if so, please attack it from a position of understanding what it is, not something else. And regardless, this is a stream *I* would track, so it is not 100% wrong. regards, davep (random, but appropriate, sig:) - -- Howe's Law: Everyone has a scheme that will not work. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Jun 22 9:28:32 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from globalrelay.com (h216-18-71-77.gtcust.grouptelecom.net [216.18.71.77]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2BD2637B406 for ; Fri, 22 Jun 2001 09:28:30 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from lists@globalrelay.net) Received: from [10.2.0.6] (HELO hpvl4002) by globalrelay.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 3.4.7) with SMTP id 353401 for freebsd-stable@freebsd.org; Fri, 22 Jun 2001 09:28:28 -0700 Message-ID: <00dc01c0fb38$5fcb4030$0600020a@frontend> From: "Eric Parusel" To: Subject: Compiling "old" fxp driver? Date: Fri, 22 Jun 2001 09:28:30 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG How would I go about compiling an old version of the fxp driver?? I'm getting timeout errors every day on one of my machines, and would like to try an older version of the driver... Thanks for any help, Eric Parusel To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Jun 22 9:38: 6 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from marble.sentex.ca (ns2.sentex.ca [199.212.134.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B1D9D37B406 for ; Fri, 22 Jun 2001 09:38:02 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mike@sentex.net) Received: from simoeon.sentex.net (simeon.sentex.ca [209.112.4.47]) by marble.sentex.ca (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f5MGc0t12086; Fri, 22 Jun 2001 12:38:00 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <5.1.0.14.0.20010622122854.02b7c1c0@marble.sentex.ca> X-Sender: mdtpop@marble.sentex.ca X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Fri, 22 Jun 2001 12:32:29 -0400 To: "Eric Parusel" , From: Mike Tancsa Subject: Re: Compiling "old" fxp driver? In-Reply-To: <00dc01c0fb38$5fcb4030$0600020a@frontend> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Comment out the dev/fxp entry and uncomment the pci/if_fxp.c entry How recent a STABLE are you running ? There was a new rev the 14th of June backup# diff -u /usr/src/sys/conf/files.orig /usr/src/sys/conf/files --- files.orig Fri May 18 14:07:27 2001 +++ files Fri May 18 14:07:40 2001 @@ -161,7 +161,7 @@ dev/ex/if_ex_pccard.c optional ex card dev/fe/if_fe.c optional fe dev/fe/if_fe_pccard.c optional fe card -dev/fxp/if_fxp.c optional fxp +#dev/fxp/if_fxp.c optional fxp dev/hea/eni.c optional hea dev/hea/eni_buffer.c optional hea dev/hea/eni_globals.c optional hea @@ -950,7 +950,7 @@ pci/if_dc.c optional dc pci/if_de.c optional de pci/if_en_pci.c optional en pci -#pci/if_fxp.c optional fxp +pci/if_fxp.c optional fxp pci/if_lnc_p.c optional lnc pci pci/if_pcn.c optional pcn pci/if_mn.c optional mn At 09:28 AM 6/22/01 -0700, Eric Parusel wrote: > How would I go about compiling an old version of the fxp driver?? > >I'm getting timeout errors every day on one of my machines, and would >like to try an older version of the driver... > >Thanks for any help, > >Eric Parusel > > > >To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org >with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Jun 22 9:38:16 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from guru.mired.org (okc-27-141-144.mmcable.com [24.27.141.144]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 0EFE537B407 for ; Fri, 22 Jun 2001 09:38:07 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mwm@mired.org) Received: (qmail 74831 invoked by uid 100); 22 Jun 2001 16:38:06 -0000 From: Mike Meyer MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <15155.29806.145760.832648@guru.mired.org> Date: Fri, 22 Jun 2001 11:38:06 -0500 To: Dmitry Karasik Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Staying *really stable* in FreeBSD In-Reply-To: References: X-Mailer: VM 6.90 under 21.1 (patch 14) "Cuyahoga Valley" XEmacs Lucid X-face: "5Mnwy%?j>IIV\)A=):rjWL~NB2aH[}Yq8Z=u~vJ`"(,&SiLvbbz2W`;h9L,Yg`+vb1>RG% *h+%X^n0EZd>TM8_IB;a8F?(Fb"lw'IgCoyM.[Lg#r\ Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Dmitry Karasik types: > On 21 Jun 01 at 16:45, "Jason" (Jason Watkins) wrote: > Jason> Don't camoflage one problem by providing a solution to > Jason> another. What you're really worried about is how stable -stable > Jason> is. Address that, and things will be better than managing: > > Jason> -its_not_stable_but_we_pretend -stable -yet_more_stable > Jason> -so_stable_its_more_stale_than_the_cheesewiz_in_my_house > Well, instead of criticizing the only decent proposition in the thread > you all people could invent something that works. But no one wants to, > that's the point. If it were a decent proposition, it wouldn't be drawing criticism. What we have is a system that works, in the form of CURRENT, STABLE and RELEASE. We also have a new facility in the form of a branch that inludes only security fixes from STABLE - something I'm going to call RELENG. RELENG was introduced with the previous release, and we now have a proposition designed to work around the "problem" of having to edit the supfile to change to a new branch after a release. This is exactly the way things have worked with STABLE, and I've never seen anyone claim that that was a problem. Since this case has never happened, any problems are hypothetical. The relevant experience with FreeBSD is that: 1) Editing the supfile is trivial, and seldom causes problems. 2) Tracking STABLE at "reasonable" intervals is straightforward, and seldom causes problems. 3) Jumps of a release are slightly more complicated, sometimes cause problems, and should be handled with care. 4) Jumps across versions are a major PITA, and almost always have to be given special treatment. RELENG is an attempt to make life easier for people who don't want to upgrade their system, but do want to get security fixes. Given that goal and the relevant experience, RELENG seems to be a good solution. It may not be, but we really need some evidence before making such a decision. So we have a proposition that moves the work from people who want to track stable in a manner resembling the punctuated equilibrium theory of evolution to the release engineer - who is a volunteer - to solve a problem that has never been observed in the wild. Before doing any work to fix this problem, it would be nice to have some evidence that this problem exists, and to have more experience with the process of taking a system from one RELENG branch to the next one. If the problem is instead that STABLE isn't STABLE enough and RELENG doesn't move fast enough - though evidence for the latter would also seem to be in short supply - then one of those two problems should be attacked, rather than trying to automate something that experience shows doesn't automate well. http://www.mired.org/home/mwm/ Independent WWW/Perforce/FreeBSD/Unix consultant, email for more information. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Jun 22 9:38:40 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from www.cmass.org (www.cmass.org [12.30.17.17]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 335F637B407 for ; Fri, 22 Jun 2001 09:38:31 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from john@loverso.southborough.ma.us) Received: from loverso.southborough.ma.us (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by www.cmass.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA35061; Fri, 22 Jun 2001 12:38:20 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from loverso@loverso.southborough.ma.us) Message-Id: <200106221638.MAA35061@www.cmass.org> To: "Eric Parusel" Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: SMP/fxp problem... In-reply-to: Message from "Eric Parusel" <03b301c0f9d3$dbc37790$0600020a@frontend> . X-Face: "UZ!}1W2N?eJdN(`1%|/OOPqJ).Idk?UyvWw'W-%`Gto8^IkEm>.g1O$[.;~}8E=Ire0|lO .o>:NlJS1@vO9bVmswRoq3j DdX9YGSeJ5a(mfX[1u>Z63G5_^+'8LVqjqvn X-Url: http://surf.to/loverso Date: Fri, 22 Jun 2001 12:38:20 -0400 From: "John R. LoVerso" Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > I've got one SMP system, with two Intel NIC's, as shown at > the bottom of this message in my dmesg.boot .... ... > My SMP system gets a "fxp0: device timeout"or a "fxp1: > device timeout" error about once every two days, and my I was getting this same problem on a dual processer system built on an Intel N440BX "Nightshade" motherboard. I solved it by changing a BIOS setting that limited the number of IRQ assignments from a "legacy" mode. Once I did that, the timeouts went away. Boot messages now show: fxp0: port 0x1060-0x107f mem 0xf8000000-0xf80fffff,0xf8104000-0xf8104fff irq 20 at device 15.0 on pci0 It's been working great (doing multiple buildworlds all the time) since I changed this in December. The system still runs 4.1.1, IIRK. John To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Jun 22 9:45:55 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from dargo.talarian.com (dargo.talarian.com [207.5.33.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8169B37B406 for ; Fri, 22 Jun 2001 09:45:49 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nsayer@quack.kfu.com) Received: from moya.talarian.com (moya.talarian.com [10.4.10.8]) by dargo.talarian.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id CF25622B08; Fri, 22 Jun 2001 09:43:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: from beast.talarian.com (beast.talarian.com [10.4.10.6]) by moya.talarian.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3830C6B; Fri, 22 Jun 2001 09:45:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: from quack.kfu.com (localhost [::1]) by beast.talarian.com (8.11.3/8.11.3) with ESMTP id f5MGjlP40041; Fri, 22 Jun 2001 09:45:47 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nsayer@quack.kfu.com) Message-ID: <3B33763B.5060706@quack.kfu.com> Date: Fri, 22 Jun 2001 09:45:47 -0700 From: Nick Sayer User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD 4.3-RELEASE i386; en-US; rv:0.9.1) Gecko/20010613 X-Accept-Language: en-us MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Karsten W. Rohrbach" Cc: Nuno Teixeira , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: /var/mail permissions: 0755 or 01777 ? References: <20010621214821.C376-100000@gateway.bogus> <20010622164453.J64624@mail.webmonster.de> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Karsten W. Rohrbach wrote: > Nuno Teixeira(nuno.mailinglists@pt-quorum.com)@2001.06.21 21:51:34 +0000: > >>Hello to all, >> >>The FreeBSD default permissions for /var/mail are 0755. >> >>Why is that PINE says that the /var/mail directory is vulnerable and it >>says to change it to 01777 1777 makes it possible for users to create files in /var/mail. The good news is that they can make lock files, which make "simultaneous" delivery and reading more reliable. The bad news is that they can make files named like other people's mailfiles. This can either be an attack on their reader of choice or a denial of service, depending on how smart the client and MDA are. As such, /var/mail is A Bad Thing. Putting mail into a file in the user's home directory is much safer. But the spec is too old to change by this point. So the best idea is to dispense with Unix formatted mail files alltogether. Thus this advice: > use Maildir > faster, simpler, secure -- simply put: better ;-) cyrus is better still, so long as you don't mind _only_ being able to use IMAP to play with your mail. Cyrus is particularly good for companies, as lmtp deliveries result in multiple ccs being hard links rather than separate copies. Great for when Marketing sends 20 copies of a 50M powerpoint presentation. :-) As for MUAs, nothing I've tried has beaten Netscape 4.x yet, although I have switched over to Mozilla and it is close. For non-GUI, I prefer pine despite its tarnished security reputation. Surprisingly enough, a close second place behind Mozilla for me is SquirrelMail in a web browser. It really is good, believe it or not. I would make a port for it, but it's sort of pointless as it's just a bunch of php scripts you unpack into your www data direectory (www.squirrelmail.org if you are curious). To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Jun 22 9:56:18 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from www.cmass.org (www.cmass.org [12.30.17.17]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D058B37B401 for ; Fri, 22 Jun 2001 09:56:14 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from john@loverso.southborough.ma.us) Received: from loverso.southborough.ma.us (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by www.cmass.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA35175; Fri, 22 Jun 2001 12:56:13 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from loverso@loverso.southborough.ma.us) Message-Id: <200106221656.MAA35175@www.cmass.org> To: "Eric Parusel" Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: SMP/fxp problem... In-reply-to: Message from "Eric Parusel" <03b301c0f9d3$dbc37790$0600020a@frontend> . X-Face: "UZ!}1W2N?eJdN(`1%|/OOPqJ).Idk?UyvWw'W-%`Gto8^IkEm>.g1O$[.;~}8E=Ire0|lO .o>:NlJS1@vO9bVmswRoq3j DdX9YGSeJ5a(mfX[1u>Z63G5_^+'8LVqjqvn X-Url: http://surf.to/loverso Date: Fri, 22 Jun 2001 12:56:13 -0400 From: "John R. LoVerso" Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Let me emphasize that I'm still using the "old" pci/if_fxp.c that was present up to 4.3-RELEASE, not the "new" miibus'ified dev/fxp/if_fxp.c that was MFC'd 6 weeks ago. John To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Jun 22 9:58:58 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mail.webmonster.de (datasink.webmonster.de [194.162.162.209]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 953B637B401 for ; Fri, 22 Jun 2001 09:58:51 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from karsten@rohrbach.de) Received: (qmail 78440 invoked by uid 1000); 22 Jun 2001 16:59:12 -0000 Date: Fri, 22 Jun 2001 18:59:12 +0200 From: "Karsten W. Rohrbach" To: Nick Sayer Cc: Nuno Teixeira , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: /var/mail permissions: 0755 or 01777 ? Message-ID: <20010622185912.T64624@mail.webmonster.de> References: <20010621214821.C376-100000@gateway.bogus> <20010622164453.J64624@mail.webmonster.de> <3B33763B.5060706@quack.kfu.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-md5; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="sDhuxz86kt5qlkuV" Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <3B33763B.5060706@quack.kfu.com>; from nsayer@quack.kfu.com on Fri, Jun 22, 2001 at 09:45:47AM -0700 X-Arbitrary-Number-Of-The-Day: 42 X-URL: http://www.webmonster.de/ X-Disclaimer: My opinions do not necessarily represent those of my employer Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG --sDhuxz86kt5qlkuV Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Nick Sayer(nsayer@quack.kfu.com)@2001.06.22 09:45:47 +0000: >=20 >=20 > Karsten W. Rohrbach wrote: >=20 > > Nuno Teixeira(nuno.mailinglists@pt-quorum.com)@2001.06.21 21:51:34 +000= 0: > >=20 > >>Hello to all, > >> > >>The FreeBSD default permissions for /var/mail are 0755. > >> > >>Why is that PINE says that the /var/mail directory is vulnerable and it > >>says to change it to 01777 >=20 >=20 > 1777 makes it possible for users to create files in /var/mail. The good= =20 > news is that they can make lock files, which make "simultaneous"=20 > delivery and reading more reliable. The bad news is that they can make=20 > files named like other people's mailfiles. This can either be an attack= =20 > on their reader of choice or a denial of service, depending on how smart= =20 > the client and MDA are. that is, why i consequently killed /var/mail delivery on all of the systems i administer (administrate? whatever)... > As such, /var/mail is A Bad Thing. Putting mail into a file in the=20 > user's home directory is much safer. But the spec is too old to change=20 > by this point. So the best idea is to dispense with Unix formatted mail= =20 > files alltogether. Thus this advice: >=20 >=20 > > use Maildir > > faster, simpler, secure -- simply put: better ;-) >=20 >=20 > cyrus is better still, so long as you don't mind _only_ being able to=20 > use IMAP to play with your mail. Cyrus is particularly good for=20 > companies, as lmtp deliveries result in multiple ccs being hard links=20 > rather than separate copies. Great for when Marketing sends 20 copies of= =20 > a 50M powerpoint presentation. :-) indeed, but as you said, imap only. i switched to multiple boxes with qmtp transport and big mail volumes, in other words: i hit the problem with iron ;-) > As for MUAs, nothing I've tried has beaten Netscape 4.x yet, although I= =20 netscape mangles headers. thus, netscape is bad, IMVHO. > have switched over to Mozilla and it is close. For non-GUI, I prefer=20 > pine despite its tarnished security reputation. Surprisingly enough, a=20 over the past years i started to hate pine with all the security flaws and other operational problem that arise (mainly lack of support for maildir). for my fellow *bsd shell people, mutt does the best job and even newbies to unix and the like take a preconfigured muttrc and there they go. my personal mutt config is linked from my homepage and from the mutt faq, so you might give it a spin (configured vs. unconfigured)... > close second place behind Mozilla for me is SquirrelMail in a web=20 > browser. It really is good, believe it or not. I would make a port for=20 > it, but it's sort of pointless as it's just a bunch of php scripts you=20 > unpack into your www data direectory (www.squirrelmail.org if you are=20 > curious). heard about that, gonna try it out on some intranet server next week. /k --=20 > If it ain't broke, overclock it! KR433/KR11-RIPE -- WebMonster Community Founder -- nGENn GmbH Senior Techie http://www.webmonster.de/ -- ftp://ftp.webmonster.de/ -- http://www.ngenn.n= et/ karsten&rohrbach.de -- alpha&ngenn.net -- alpha&scene.org -- catch@spam.de GnuPG 0x2964BF46 2001-03-15 42F9 9FFF 50D4 2F38 DBEE DF22 3340 4F4E 2964 B= F46 Please do not remove my address from To: and Cc: fields in mailing lists. 1= 0x --sDhuxz86kt5qlkuV Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (FreeBSD) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE7M3lgM0BPTilkv0YRAk+/AKCRE8thWhlnFeroY+jbMU0NoXGNUQCfcz2r 98Tshizw4sTRs2AxIkj5dzA= =Ami/ -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --sDhuxz86kt5qlkuV-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Jun 22 10: 2:20 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from marble.sentex.ca (ns2.sentex.ca [199.212.134.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D734037B403 for ; Fri, 22 Jun 2001 10:02:18 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mike@sentex.net) Received: from simoeon.sentex.net (simeon.sentex.ca [209.112.4.47]) by marble.sentex.ca (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f5MH2Ht55312; Fri, 22 Jun 2001 13:02:17 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <5.1.0.14.0.20010622125621.035b2ec0@marble.sentex.ca> X-Sender: mdtpop@marble.sentex.ca X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Fri, 22 Jun 2001 12:56:46 -0400 To: "John R. LoVerso" From: Mike Tancsa Subject: Re: SMP/fxp problem... Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <200106221656.MAA35175@www.cmass.org> References: <03b301c0f9d3$dbc37790$0600020a@frontend> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG At 12:56 PM 6/22/01 -0400, John R. LoVerso wrote: >Let me emphasize that I'm still using the "old" pci/if_fxp.c that was >present up to 4.3-RELEASE, not the "new" miibus'ified dev/fxp/if_fxp.c >that was MFC'd 6 weeks ago. Does the new driver not work for you ? ---Mike To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Jun 22 10:12:18 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from segfault.kiev.ua (segfault.kiev.ua [193.193.193.4]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A0F7437B406 for ; Fri, 22 Jun 2001 10:12:12 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from netch@iv.nn.kiev.ua) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by segfault.kiev.ua (8) with UUCP id UEQ00427; Fri, 22 Jun 2001 20:12:01 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from netch@iv.nn.kiev.ua) Received: (from netch@localhost) by iv.nn.kiev.ua (8.11.4/8.11.4) id f5MH71S00466; Fri, 22 Jun 2001 20:07:01 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from netch) Date: Fri, 22 Jun 2001 20:07:01 +0300 From: Valentin Nechayev To: Andy Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: shutdown not completing (more info) Message-ID: <20010622200701.A451@iv.nn.kiev.ua> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Thu, Jun 21, 2001 at 17:54:38, andy (Andy) wrote about "RE: shutdown not completing (more info)": > 4.2-RELEASE from CDRom, GENERIC kernel > "shutdown now" works fine. > > 4.3-RELEASE from CDRom, GENERIC kernel > "shutdown now" fails, hangs machine. "shutdown now" causes system to fall to single-user mode. If it reboots, stops it or switches the power off, your 4.2 was broken. /netch To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Jun 22 10:29: 3 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from point.osg.gov.bc.ca (point.osg.gov.bc.ca [142.32.102.44]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8ADDB37B406 for ; Fri, 22 Jun 2001 10:28:57 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from Cy.Schubert@uumail.gov.bc.ca) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by point.osg.gov.bc.ca (8.8.7/8.8.8) id KAA06577; Fri, 22 Jun 2001 10:28:19 -0700 Received: from passer.osg.gov.bc.ca(142.32.110.29) via SMTP by point.osg.gov.bc.ca, id smtpda06575; Fri Jun 22 10:28:10 2001 Received: (from uucp@localhost) by passer.osg.gov.bc.ca (8.11.4/8.9.1) id f5MHS5p93512; Fri, 22 Jun 2001 10:28:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: from UNKNOWN(10.1.2.1), claiming to be "cwsys.cwsent.com" via SMTP by passer9.cwsent.com, id smtpdd93508; Fri Jun 22 10:27:05 2001 Received: (from uucp@localhost) by cwsys.cwsent.com (8.11.4/8.9.1) id f5MHQYk06689; Fri, 22 Jun 2001 10:26:34 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <200106221726.f5MHQYk06689@cwsys.cwsent.com> Received: from localhost.cwsent.com(127.0.0.1), claiming to be "cwsys" via SMTP by localhost.cwsent.com, id smtpdDR6683; Fri Jun 22 10:26:01 2001 X-Mailer: exmh version 2.3.1 01/18/2001 with nmh-1.0.4 Reply-To: Cy Schubert - ITSD Open Systems Group From: Cy Schubert - ITSD Open Systems Group X-Sender: schubert To: Karol Makowski Cc: Marko Cuk , stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: NFS In-reply-to: Your message of "Fri, 22 Jun 2001 14:19:31 +0200." <20010622141931.A3531@sigma.buy.pl> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Fri, 22 Jun 2001 10:26:01 -0700 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG In message <20010622141931.A3531@sigma.buy.pl>, Karol Makowski writes: > On Fri, 2001-06-22 at 14:16:56, Marko Cuk wrote: > [cut] > Marko> and I'd like to make another computer to access that /data on previosl > y > Marko> mounted box, not from original BOX source. > > Sure it's possiblem export it via NFS :-> Most NFS implementations do not allow re-export of mounted NFS filesystems. The reason for this is that the owners of the NFS exported filesystems may not intend for those you wish to re-export filesystems to, to have access to the data. On the other hand the Linux implementation of NFS does allow re-export of filesystems. The Linux version of NFS, which runs (ran) purely in userspace, at least at the time I tested it 4-5 years ago, did work under FreeBSD under the condition that FreeBSD's NFS client and server code were disabled in the kernel, e.g removed from your kernel config and kernel rebuilt. Regards, Phone: (250)387-8437 Cy Schubert Fax: (250)387-5766 Team Leader, Sun/Alpha Team Internet: Cy.Schubert@osg.gov.bc.ca Open Systems Group, ITSD, ISTA Province of BC To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Jun 22 10:33:27 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from damgwp01.corp.sprint.com (parker2.sprint.com [199.14.91.106]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E807337B401 for ; Fri, 22 Jun 2001 10:33:24 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from steve.d.meacham@mail.sprint.com) Received: from kcmgwp02.corp.sprint.com (kcmgwp02 [10.185.6.93]) by damgwp01.corp.sprint.com (Switch-2.0.2/Switch-2.0.2) with ESMTP id f5MHjX014411; Fri, 22 Jun 2001 12:45:33 -0500 (CDT) Received: from kcopmp01.corp.sprint.com (kcopmp01m.corp.sprint.com [10.74.2.72]) by kcmgwp02.corp.sprint.com (Switch-2.0.2/Switch-2.0.2) with ESMTP id f5MHWws28916; Fri, 22 Jun 2001 12:32:58 -0500 (CDT) Received: from localhost (root@localhost) by kcopmp01.corp.sprint.com (8.8.6 (PHNE_17190)/8.8.6) with ESMTP id MAA16823; Fri, 22 Jun 2001 12:32:57 -0500 (CDT) From: steve.d.meacham@mail.sprint.com X-OpenMail-Hops: 1 Date: Fri, 22 Jun 2001 12:32:57 -0500 Message-Id: Subject: RE: shutdown not completing (more info) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: andy@tecc.co.uk, netch@iv.nn.kiev.ua Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="openmail-part-47e2cd16-00000001" Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG --openmail-part-47e2cd16-00000001 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Disposition: inline ;Creation-Date="Fri, 22 Jun 2001 12:32:57 -0500" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit This is sort of like an "is it plugged in" sanity check, but... After issuing 'shutdown now', I believe that you need to go to screen one (Alt-F1) where you're prompted for which shell to use and then dropped into single-user. If you don't go to screen one, then the machine will have the appearance of hanging. Regards, Steven -----Original Message----- From: netch [mailto:netch@iv.nn.kiev.ua] Sent: Friday, June 22, 2001 12:07 PM To: andy Cc: netch; freebsd-stable Subject: Re: shutdown not completing (more info) Thu, Jun 21, 2001 at 17:54:38, andy (Andy) wrote about "RE: shutdown not completing (more info)": > 4.2-RELEASE from CDRom, GENERIC kernel > "shutdown now" works fine. > > 4.3-RELEASE from CDRom, GENERIC kernel > "shutdown now" fails, hangs machine. "shutdown now" causes system to fall to single-user mode. If it reboots, stops it or switches the power off, your 4.2 was broken. /netch To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message --openmail-part-47e2cd16-00000001-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Jun 22 10:36:40 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from moutvdom00.kundenserver.de (moutvdom00.kundenserver.de [195.20.224.149]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E77FA37B409 for ; Fri, 22 Jun 2001 10:36:36 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from list@rachinsky.de) Received: from [195.20.224.219] (helo=mrvdom03.kundenserver.de) by moutvdom00.kundenserver.de with esmtp (Exim 2.12 #2) id 15DUrD-0004EX-00 for freebsd-stable@freebsd.org; Fri, 22 Jun 2001 19:36:35 +0200 Received: from pd95024e6.dip.t-dialin.net ([217.80.36.230] helo=pc3) by mrvdom03.kundenserver.de with smtp (Exim 2.12 #2) id 15DUqy-0003Kx-00 for freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG; Fri, 22 Jun 2001 19:36:20 +0200 Message-ID: <002d01c0fb41$917bf580$0364000a@rachinsky> From: "Nicolas Rachinsky" To: Subject: lp0 device Date: Fri, 22 Jun 2001 19:34:14 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hallo, I just installed FreeBSD 4.3-Release. I noticed a new entry in the output of ifconfig, a device named lp0. Where can I find more information about it? Thank you Nicolas To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Jun 22 10:38: 9 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from hex.databits.net (hex.databits.net [207.29.192.16]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id E906337B403 for ; Fri, 22 Jun 2001 10:38:06 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from petef@hex.databits.net) Received: (qmail 28983 invoked by uid 1001); 22 Jun 2001 17:38:05 -0000 Date: Fri, 22 Jun 2001 13:38:05 -0400 From: Pete Fritchman To: Nicolas Rachinsky Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: lp0 device Message-ID: <20010622133805.C25617@databits.net> References: <002d01c0fb41$917bf580$0364000a@rachinsky> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <002d01c0fb41$917bf580$0364000a@rachinsky>; from list@rachinsky.de on Fri, Jun 22, 2001 at 07:34:14PM +0200 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG man 4 lp -pete ++ 22/06/01 19:34 +0200 - Nicolas Rachinsky: | Hallo, | | I just installed FreeBSD 4.3-Release. I noticed a new | entry in the output of ifconfig, a device named lp0. | Where can I find more information about it? | | Thank you | Nicolas | | | To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org | with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message -- Pete Fritchman Databits Network Services, Inc. finger petef@databits.net for PGP key To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Jun 22 10:40:43 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from melete.ch.intel.com (chfdns02.ch.intel.com [143.182.246.25]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2CF9E37B407 for ; Fri, 22 Jun 2001 10:40:41 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jreynold@sedona.ch.intel.com) Received: from sedona.intel.com (sedona.ch.intel.com [143.182.218.21]) by melete.ch.intel.com (8.9.1a+p1/8.9.1/d: relay.m4,v 1.40 2001/06/06 21:14:49 root Exp $) with ESMTP id RAA08371; Fri, 22 Jun 2001 17:40:38 GMT Received: from hip186.ch.intel.com (hip186.ch.intel.com [143.182.225.68]) by sedona.intel.com (8.9.1a/8.9.1/d: sendmail.cf,v 1.14 2001/01/02 18:39:59 steved Exp $) with ESMTP id KAA24249; Fri, 22 Jun 2001 10:40:37 -0700 (MST) X-Envelope-From: jreynold@sedona.ch.intel.com Received: (from jreynold@localhost) by hip186.ch.intel.com (8.9.1a/8.9.1/d: client.m4,v 1.3 1998/09/29 16:36:11 sedayao Exp sedayao $) id NAA07254; Fri, 22 Jun 2001 13:40:38 -0400 (EDT) X-Authentication-Warning: hip186.ch.intel.com: jreynold set sender to jreynold@sedona.ch.intel.com using -f From: John Reynolds~ MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <15155.33558.40690.325075@hip186.ch.intel.com> Date: Fri, 22 Jun 2001 10:40:38 -0700 To: "Nicolas Rachinsky" Cc: Subject: Re: lp0 device In-Reply-To: <002d01c0fb41$917bf580$0364000a@rachinsky> References: <002d01c0fb41$917bf580$0364000a@rachinsky> X-Mailer: VM 6.92 under Emacs 20.7.2 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG [ On Friday, June 22, Nicolas Rachinsky wrote: ] > Hallo, > > I just installed FreeBSD 4.3-Release. I noticed a new > entry in the output of ifconfig, a device named lp0. > Where can I find more information about it? > > Thank you > Nicolas man 4 lp -Jr -- =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= | John Reynolds WCCG, CCE, (space for rent, cheap!) | | Intel Corporation MS: CH6-210 Phone: 480-554-9092 pgr: 602-868-6512 | | jreynold@sedona.ch.intel.com http://www-aec.ch.intel.com/~jreynold/ | =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Jun 22 10:50:17 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from segfault.kiev.ua (segfault.kiev.ua [193.193.193.4]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7B63B37B407 for ; Fri, 22 Jun 2001 10:50:09 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from netch@iv.nn.kiev.ua) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by segfault.kiev.ua (8) with UUCP id UTE03486; Fri, 22 Jun 2001 20:49:51 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from netch@iv.nn.kiev.ua) Received: (from netch@localhost) by iv.nn.kiev.ua (8.11.4/8.11.4) id f5MHjFi01363; Fri, 22 Jun 2001 20:45:15 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from netch) Date: Fri, 22 Jun 2001 20:45:15 +0300 From: Valentin Nechayev To: Bill Moran Cc: Chris BeHanna , FreeBSD-Stable Subject: Re: releng4 no longer -STABLE??? Message-ID: <20010622204515.B406@iv.nn.kiev.ua> References: <20010622003432.D1597@iv.nn.kiev.ua> <3B326B4B.2ABF72D9@iowna.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <3B326B4B.2ABF72D9@iowna.com>; from wmoran@iowna.com on Thu, Jun 21, 2001 at 05:46:51PM -0400 X-42: On Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Thu, Jun 21, 2001 at 17:46:51, wmoran (Bill Moran) wrote about "Re: releng4 no longer -STABLE???": > > All such messages are useless and destructive without _exact_ cvsup date > > _parameter_. > > This brings up an interesting question: How would one know the exact > cvsup date if he hadn't recorded it? Does cvsup keep a log? I use script: #!/bin/sh ( date fgrep date= /etc/stable-supfile cvsup -g -L 2 /etc/stable-supfile date ) 2>&1 | tee /var/log/sup.src.`date +%s` (pathnames may differ) A few last cvsup logs are kept for seeing exact date. Also, on some machines src/sys/conf/newvers.sh is manually patched every time to produce exact date/time in `uname -r' output. /netch To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Jun 22 11:36:41 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mass.dis.org (mass.dis.org [216.240.45.41]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 05C8337B403 for ; Fri, 22 Jun 2001 11:36:39 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from msmith@mass.dis.org) Received: from mass.dis.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mass.dis.org (8.11.4/8.11.3) with ESMTP id f5MIlxB01052; Fri, 22 Jun 2001 11:48:01 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from msmith@mass.dis.org) Message-Id: <200106221848.f5MIlxB01052@mass.dis.org> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.1.1 10/15/1999 To: Francisco Reyes Cc: Mike Tancsa , stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: 3 3ware controllers? In-reply-to: Your message of "Fri, 22 Jun 2001 07:36:22 EDT." <20010622073429.S724-100000@zoraida.reyes.somos.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Fri, 22 Jun 2001 11:47:59 -0700 From: Mike Smith Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > If you want Raid 5 consider the new Adaptec IDE controller. From > benchmarks posted at www.storagereview.com it seems the adaptec is better > at Raid 5, but slightly slower in Raid 10. > > You should try to find out however if this controller is supported by > FreeBSD yet. It should be supported by the 'asr' driver. From what I understand, this is basically a DPT SCSI RAID controller with ATA disk interfaces; it's going to be expensive. 8( -- ... every activity meets with opposition, everyone who acts has his rivals and unfortunately opponents also. But not because people want to be opponents, rather because the tasks and relationships force people to take different points of view. [Dr. Fritz Todt] V I C T O R Y N O T V E N G E A N C E To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Jun 22 11:42: 6 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from segfault.kiev.ua (segfault.kiev.ua [193.193.193.4]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D3F0837B406 for ; Fri, 22 Jun 2001 11:42:00 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from netch@iv.nn.kiev.ua) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by segfault.kiev.ua (8) with UUCP id VQC05001; Fri, 22 Jun 2001 21:41:51 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from netch@iv.nn.kiev.ua) Received: (from netch@localhost) by iv.nn.kiev.ua (8.11.4/8.11.4) id f5MI6nJ01662; Fri, 22 Jun 2001 21:06:49 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from netch) Date: Fri, 22 Jun 2001 21:06:48 +0300 From: Valentin Nechayev To: Nuno Teixeira Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: /var/mail permissions: 0755 or 01777 ? Message-ID: <20010622210648.A1493@iv.nn.kiev.ua> References: <20010622001925.A1597@iv.nn.kiev.ua> <20010621224558.F335-100000@gateway.bogus> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20010621224558.F335-100000@gateway.bogus>; from nuno.mailinglists@pt-quorum.com on Thu, Jun 21, 2001 at 10:53:57PM +0100 X-42: On Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Thu, Jun 21, 2001 at 22:53:57, nuno.mailinglists (Nuno Teixeira) wrote about "Re: /var/mail permissions: 0755 or 01777 ?": > In this particular case there is a security problem like you told me? Possibly. Permissions like `1777' are *UGLY* workaround to allow mail delivery agents to create mailboxes and lockfiles. Mailbox creating is needed in rare case when mailbox does not exist yet. Locking via file creating (/var/mail/${user}.lock for /var/mail/${user}) is one way to lock mailbox during mail delivery (which is nesessary to keep messages integrity and disallow them to interfere). Another popular way is to use flock(). flock() is BSD tradition. File lock is SysV tradition. procmail, e.g., uses both. Permissions `1777' are ugly because they allow any user to create any file in such directory. Any bad guy can set TMPDIR to such /var/mail and use it as temporary storage(!!) There are some another ways. Old way which is considered now as also insecure is to give 0775 root:mail to /var/mail and sgid:mail for mail readers. Keeping /var/mail paradigm, the correct way is to use separate simple, small and well-audited sgid:mail program to create and drop file locks. mutt-dotlock is such program. Pine is not adapted to use analog of mutt-dotlock. It expects sgid:mail rights or 1777 for /var/mail. This is because I say bad words against Pine. But it is obligated in such context to say that the whole idea of /var/mail is wrong and can be used only as way for compatibility with amoebas and dinosaurs of early Unix versions. Mailbox is another dinosaur. To avoid problems with locks in /var/mail, keep inbox in home. To avoid locks, use maildir. Mutt supports maildir, procmail supports maildir, and one has no strict reason now to work with ancient ghosts. > I start using Pine when I came from (MS) Outlook Express about a year and > this program is the best that I found with the best options to work with > mail. > I read a lot about Mutt 'the mongrel' but I think it isn't the best > choice for newbies like me. I recommend Mutt itself for newbies. But let's skip discussion on tastes. /netch To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Jun 22 11:42:32 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from segfault.kiev.ua (segfault.kiev.ua [193.193.193.4]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2F6EC37B403 for ; Fri, 22 Jun 2001 11:42:23 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from netch@iv.nn.kiev.ua) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by segfault.kiev.ua (8) with UUCP id VQF05016; Fri, 22 Jun 2001 21:42:08 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from netch@iv.nn.kiev.ua) Received: (from netch@localhost) by iv.nn.kiev.ua (8.11.4/8.11.4) id f5MIFC301790; Fri, 22 Jun 2001 21:15:12 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from netch) Date: Fri, 22 Jun 2001 21:15:12 +0300 From: Valentin Nechayev To: John Summerfield Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Staying *really stable* in FreeBSD Message-ID: <20010622211512.C1493@iv.nn.kiev.ua> References: <20010622002248.B1597@iv.nn.kiev.ua> <200106212321.f5LNLV103660@possum.os2.ami.com.au> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <200106212321.f5LNLV103660@possum.os2.ami.com.au>; from summer@os2.ami.com.au on Fri, Jun 22, 2001 at 07:21:29AM +0800 X-42: On Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Fri, Jun 22, 2001 at 07:21:29, summer (John Summerfield) wrote about "Re: Staying *really stable* in FreeBSD": > > Cut it with Occam's knife. > A small point I know, but "Occam's Razor." we used to have a radio > program with the name. > > Razors are perceived (generally correctly in my experience) as being > sharper than knives. Of course, sorry, I have no Russian-English dictionary under my left hand ;( /netch To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Jun 22 11:42:31 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from segfault.kiev.ua (segfault.kiev.ua [193.193.193.4]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4A37A37B401 for ; Fri, 22 Jun 2001 11:42:24 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from netch@iv.nn.kiev.ua) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by segfault.kiev.ua (8) with UUCP id VQF05013; Fri, 22 Jun 2001 21:42:06 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from netch@iv.nn.kiev.ua) Received: (from netch@localhost) by iv.nn.kiev.ua (8.11.4/8.11.4) id f5MI9Hh01687; Fri, 22 Jun 2001 21:09:17 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from netch) Date: Fri, 22 Jun 2001 21:09:17 +0300 From: Valentin Nechayev To: "Karsten W. Rohrbach" Cc: Nuno Teixeira , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: /var/mail permissions: 0755 or 01777 ? Message-ID: <20010622210917.B1493@iv.nn.kiev.ua> References: <20010621214821.C376-100000@gateway.bogus> <20010622164453.J64624@mail.webmonster.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20010622164453.J64624@mail.webmonster.de>; from karsten@rohrbach.de on Fri, Jun 22, 2001 at 04:44:53PM +0200 X-42: On Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Fri, Jun 22, 2001 at 16:44:53, karsten (Karsten W. Rohrbach) wrote about "Re: /var/mail permissions: 0755 or 01777 ?": > use Maildir > faster, simpler, secure -- simply put: better ;-) > ...and avoid uwashington code (pine, uw-imap, ...) I fall here to offtopic, but... Why Washington state provides three organizations which produce more ugly code than all another world - UW, WU and Microsoft? /netch To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Jun 22 11:42:47 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from segfault.kiev.ua (segfault.kiev.ua [193.193.193.4]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 453D637B408 for ; Fri, 22 Jun 2001 11:42:32 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from netch@iv.nn.kiev.ua) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by segfault.kiev.ua (8) with UUCP id VQJ05020 for stable@FreeBSD.ORG; Fri, 22 Jun 2001 21:42:30 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from netch@iv.nn.kiev.ua) Received: (from netch@localhost) by iv.nn.kiev.ua (8.11.4/8.11.4) id f5MIeOK02293 for stable@FreeBSD.ORG; Fri, 22 Jun 2001 21:40:24 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from netch) Date: Fri, 22 Jun 2001 21:40:24 +0300 From: Valentin Nechayev To: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: sendmail: Cannot exec /bin/mail Message-ID: <20010622214024.E1493@iv.nn.kiev.ua> References: <3B31A9F3.627E590@i-clue.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <3B31A9F3.627E590@i-clue.de>; from so@server.i-clue.de on Thu, Jun 21, 2001 at 10:01:55AM +0200 X-42: On Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Thu, Jun 21, 2001 at 10:01:55, so (Christoph Sold) wrote about "sendmail: Cannot exec /bin/mail": > Jun 21 09:45:13 msgate sendmail[2093]: f5L5Quj01649: SYSERR(root): > Cannot exec / > bin/mail: No such file or directory /bin/mail is very old style deliver program. Its mention in sendmail.cf says that config has incorrect OSTYPE or no one. Check which source (.mc file) is used to build config. > Where should the path be fixed? Sending a PR can be difficult, since > send-pr also tries to use the nonfunctional sendmail :/ Sending PR does not require local delivery, but I think you situation needs more additional diagnosing before even to remember about send-pr. /netch To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Jun 22 11:42:54 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from 1stwebs.com (1stwebs.com [216.122.237.185]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B293037B430 for ; Fri, 22 Jun 2001 11:42:37 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from deven@netexplorer.org) Received: from netexplorer.org (IDENT:deven@nat-0-135.lightrealm.net [216.122.0.135]) by 1stwebs.com (8.11.0/8.11.0) with ESMTP id f5MIgMJ01692; Fri, 22 Jun 2001 11:42:22 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from deven@netexplorer.org) Message-ID: <3B33918D.8080709@netexplorer.org> Date: Fri, 22 Jun 2001 11:42:21 -0700 From: Deven Kampenhout User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux 2.2.16-22 i686; en-US; 0.8.1) Gecko/20010326 X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Joachim =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Str=F6mbergson?= Cc: Donn Miller , Kenneth Mays , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Microsoft uses FreeBSD References: <20010622071339.61802.qmail@web14703.mail.yahoo.com> <3B330731.C8D43DF0@ludd.luth.se> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Joachim Strömbergson wrote: > > My 0.05 Euro on this is that Linux, not *BSD is the target because Linux > is the one the public generally knows about, it's the fastest (among the > others beside MS own systems) growing system and is generally perceived > as the new boy in town. > > The GPL is just a detail MS can aim for in their FUD attacks. The > business folks buying MS products are managers that (my generalisation) > are technically clueless, but somewhat better dealing with numbers, > dollars Euros and so on. > > These kinds of people react badly to words like "communism", "cancer" > and other fearful words that sounds bad for business. If MS can connect > (in the minds of the customers) Linux and FSF with such words and > phrases, Linux will have a much harder sale. > > MS are always trying to establish these kinds of words, phrases and > associations. "Freedom to innovate", anyone? You hit the nail right on the head, buddy. That is exactly why I don't appreciate the way M$ is bashing on open source. I can assure everyone that if FreeBSD and Linux were to switch places regarding popularity and market share, that M$ would be attacking FreeBSD and the BSD license just as vigorously. my additional $.02 - Deven Deven Kampenhout deven@netexplorer.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Jun 22 11:46:22 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from segfault.kiev.ua (segfault.kiev.ua [193.193.193.4]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6F3EA37B406 for ; Fri, 22 Jun 2001 11:46:12 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from netch@iv.nn.kiev.ua) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by segfault.kiev.ua (8) with UUCP id VQI05019; Fri, 22 Jun 2001 21:42:29 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from netch@iv.nn.kiev.ua) Received: (from netch@localhost) by iv.nn.kiev.ua (8.11.4/8.11.4) id f5MIHn101831; Fri, 22 Jun 2001 21:17:49 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from netch) Date: Fri, 22 Jun 2001 21:17:49 +0300 From: Valentin Nechayev To: Mike Meyer Cc: "David A. Panariti" , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Staying *really stable* in FreeBSD Message-ID: <20010622211749.D1493@iv.nn.kiev.ua> References: <20010622012040E.jkh@osd.bsdi.com> <006c01c0fac8$b55f0380$94cba8c0@xena> <200106220409.f5M49b429872@baloo.ne.mediaone.net> <15155.3827.672353.34621@guru.mired.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <15155.3827.672353.34621@guru.mired.org>; from mwm@mired.org on Fri, Jun 22, 2001 at 04:25:07AM -0500 X-42: On Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Fri, Jun 22, 2001 at 04:25:07, mwm (Mike Meyer) wrote about "Re: Staying *really stable* in FreeBSD": > What is your magic tag going to be tracking on January 1st? 5.0 or > 4.5? Do we need three versions of your new tag for this: one for > SUPER_STABLE (tracks to 4.6 before jumping to 5.2), one for > GENERAL_STABLE (jumps from 4.5 to 5.1) and one for RELEASE_STABLE > (from 4.4 to 5.0)? Moreover, I know a man which says that the last Really Stable release was 1.1.5.1. Of course he uses 4.* and 3.* now, but they are unstable for him. /netch To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Jun 22 11:51:32 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mail.dvart.com (mail.dvart.com [64.79.2.12]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 44B8537B403 for ; Fri, 22 Jun 2001 11:51:29 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from bschwand@dvart.com) Received: from foghorn.dvart.com (pipin.dvart.com [64.79.2.4]) by mail.dvart.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8B30FCD29 for ; Fri, 22 Jun 2001 11:50:02 +0000 (GMT) Date: Fri, 22 Jun 2001 11:51:28 -0700 (PDT) From: bruno schwander To: Subject: buildworld fails after last night cvsup Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG a machine currently running FreeBSD taz.dvart.com 4.0-RELEASE FreeBSD 4.0-RELEASE #0: Mon Mar 20 22:50:22 GMT 2000 root@monster.cdrom.com:/usr/src/sys/compile/GENERIC i386 I cvsup'ed on RELENG_4 and my buildworld failed : cc -O -pipe -DMONOLITH -I/usr/src/secure/usr.bin/openssl -DNO_IDEA -I/usr/obj /usr/src/i386/usr/include -o openssl app_rand.o apps.o asn1pars.o ca.o ciphers. o crl.o crl2p7.o dgst.o dh.o dhparam.o dsa.o dsaparam.o enc.o errstr.o gendh.o g endsa.o genrsa.o nseq.o openssl.o passwd.o pkcs12.o pkcs7.o pkcs8.o rand.o req.o rsa.o rsautl.o s_cb.o s_client.o s_server.o s_socket.o s_time.o sess_id.o smime .o speed.o spkac.o verify.o version.o x509.o -lssl -lcrypto pod2man /usr/src/secure/usr.bin/openssl/../../../crypto/openssl/apps/../doc/apps //openssl.pod > openssl.1 pod2man: not found *** Error code 127 Stop in /usr/src/secure/usr.bin/openssl. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/src/secure/usr.bin. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/src/secure. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/src. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/src. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/src. what is pod2man ? ########################################################################### Bruno Schwander Senior Software Engineer Worldgate Communications, Inc email: bschwand@dvart.com ############################################################################ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Jun 22 11:53:44 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mail.gactr.uga.edu (mail.gactr.uga.edu [128.192.37.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 3DD6937B406 for ; Fri, 22 Jun 2001 11:53:41 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from Robin_Blanchard@gactr.uga.edu) Received: (qmail 19390 invoked from network); 22 Jun 2001 18:53:40 -0000 Received: from qat.noc.nat (HELO gactr.uga.edu) ([10.10.100.125]) (envelope-sender ) by mail.servers.nat (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for ; 22 Jun 2001 18:53:40 -0000 Message-ID: <3B339425.C48E2028@gactr.uga.edu> Date: Fri, 22 Jun 2001 14:53:25 -0400 From: "Robin P. Blanchard" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.77 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.2.12 i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: stable@freebsd.org Subject: networking hell Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG still looking for a solution to this one. box with working 100Mb fdx nic gets 11+MB/s transfers. great. remove nic and install gigabit interface to test. gets 2.67MB/s transfers. bad. remove nic and reinstall original 100Mb nic. gets 2.67MB/s transfers. bad install new 100Mb nic. bad install different brand 100Mb nic. bad. reinstall box bad. what the hell is going on? i'm stuck permanently at 2.67MB/s no matter what interface i put in there. forcing both the box and switch to 100Mb fdx does not help, either. i really need some suggestions here. thanks in advance. -- ------------------------------------ Robin P. Blanchard IT Program Specialist Georgia Center for Continuing Ed. fon: 706.542.2404 fax: 706.542.6546 email: Robin_Blanchard@gactr.uga.edu ------------------------------------ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Jun 22 11:59:41 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mail.tgd.net (rand.tgd.net [64.81.67.117]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id A5F2537B401 for ; Fri, 22 Jun 2001 11:59:35 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from sean@mailhost.tgd.net) Received: (qmail 738 invoked by uid 1001); 22 Jun 2001 18:59:32 -0000 Date: Fri, 22 Jun 2001 11:59:31 -0700 From: Sean Chittenden To: "Robin P. Blanchard" Cc: stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: networking hell Message-ID: <20010622115931.A393@rand.tgd.net> References: <3B339425.C48E2028@gactr.uga.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="45Z9DzgjV8m4Oswq" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <3B339425.C48E2028@gactr.uga.edu>; from "Robin_Blanchard@gactr.uga.edu" on Fri, Jun 22, 2001 at = 02:53:25PM X-PGP-Key: 0x1EDDFAAD X-PGP-Fingerprint: C665 A17F 9A56 286C 5CFB 1DEA 9F4F 5CEF 1EDD FAAD X-Web-Homepage: http://sean.chittenden.org/ Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG --45Z9DzgjV8m4Oswq Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable One of these fun problems... sounds like a horror story I heard from a guy that was taking his CCIE and on the 2nd day when the broke the setup, they corroded the heads of the RJ-45 cables. Evil, evil, evil. > box with working 100Mb fdx nic gets 11+MB/s transfers. > great. Did you recompile the kernel here? > remove nic and install gigabit interface to test. gets 2.67MB/s transfers. > bad. [snip] > what the hell is going on? i'm stuck permanently at 2.67MB/s no matter=20 > what interface i put in there. forcing both the box and switch to 100Mb f= dx > does not help, either. If it were a duplex error, you'd only be getting about 12Kbps in=20 transfer. ;~) > i really need some suggestions here. > thanks in advance. This sounds a little off-topic for -stable. Can you take this=20 over to -isp? -sc --=20 Sean Chittenden --45Z9DzgjV8m4Oswq Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Comment: Sean Chittenden iEYEARECAAYFAjszlZMACgkQn09c7x7d+q1PqwCg1PAsma4qRIWF+29xdKPT09ot gdwAniBxx+VxKEeMBUy01/bXD4Po0Ffe =aWwx -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --45Z9DzgjV8m4Oswq-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Jun 22 12:13:47 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mail.ctonet.it (mail.ctonet.it [212.110.160.100]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A30A337B406 for ; Fri, 22 Jun 2001 12:13:45 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from olgeni@uli.it) Received: from olgeni.olgeni (ppp-186.dial5.ctonet.it [212.110.180.186]) by mail.ctonet.it (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7998F12210 for ; Fri, 22 Jun 2001 21:13:35 +0200 (CEST) Received: from localhost (bogus@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by olgeni.olgeni (8.11.4/8.11.4) with ESMTP id f5MJCkU04193 for ; Fri, 22 Jun 2001 21:12:50 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from olgeni@uli.it) Date: Fri, 22 Jun 2001 21:12:45 +0200 (CEST) From: Jimmy Olgeni X-X-Sender: To: Subject: warning message in -stable "make release" Message-ID: <20010622210929.R4116-100000@olgeni.olgeni> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi there, I saw this message during a -stable "make release": touch release.5 rm -rf /R/stage/dists mkdir -p /R/stage/dists rolling bin/bin tarball tar: dev/sa0.ctl: minor number too large; not dumped sa0.ctl minor number is: # ls -la /dev/sa0.ctl crw-rw---- 2 root wheel 14, 0x20000000 May 28 17:05 /dev/sa0.ctl Is tar expected to skip this kind of devices, or is there a workaround? -- jimmy To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Jun 22 12:18:19 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from segfault.kiev.ua (segfault.kiev.ua [193.193.193.4]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9B6BD37B403 for ; Fri, 22 Jun 2001 12:18:13 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from netch@iv.nn.kiev.ua) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by segfault.kiev.ua (8) with UUCP id WGY06308; Fri, 22 Jun 2001 22:18:02 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from netch@iv.nn.kiev.ua) Received: (from netch@localhost) by iv.nn.kiev.ua (8.11.4/8.11.4) id f5MIxMC02810; Fri, 22 Jun 2001 21:59:22 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from netch) Date: Fri, 22 Jun 2001 21:59:22 +0300 From: Valentin Nechayev To: Le Linuxien Cc: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: No CPU info.. Message-ID: <20010622215922.F1493@iv.nn.kiev.ua> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: ; from lelinuxien@hotmail.com on Wed, Jun 20, 2001 at 12:08:20AM -0000 X-42: On Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Wed, Jun 20, 2001 at 00:08:20, lelinuxien (Le Linuxien) wrote about "No CPU info..": > I'm using FreeBSD 4.3 with the Generic kernel and I can't see my CPU info... > it's detected while the boot... but when I'm running TOP, IDLE and TOTAL CPU > usage are at 0,0%... all CPU stats are at 0,0%...even for processes....With > gkrellm it's the same thing..nothing appears for the cpu info... > > I'm using an Asus A7V motherboard with patch 1005. This probably means broken statclock. I saw it on a bunch of Asus P2B-DS mainboards. # Notes on APM # The flags takes the following meaning for apm0: # 0x0020 Statclock is broken. # If apm is omitted, some systems require sysctl -w kern.timecounter.method=1 # for correct timekeeping. /netch To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Jun 22 12:28:21 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from segfault.kiev.ua (segfault.kiev.ua [193.193.193.4]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2368637B401 for ; Fri, 22 Jun 2001 12:28:17 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from netch@iv.nn.kiev.ua) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by segfault.kiev.ua (8) with UUCP id WKS06636; Fri, 22 Jun 2001 22:27:53 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from netch@iv.nn.kiev.ua) Received: (from netch@localhost) by iv.nn.kiev.ua (8.11.4/8.11.4) id f5MJKa903337; Fri, 22 Jun 2001 22:20:36 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from netch) Date: Fri, 22 Jun 2001 22:20:36 +0300 From: Valentin Nechayev To: bruno schwander Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: buildworld fails after last night cvsup Message-ID: <20010622222036.G1493@iv.nn.kiev.ua> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: ; from bschwand@dvart.com on Fri, Jun 22, 2001 at 11:51:28AM -0700 X-42: On Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Fri, Jun 22, 2001 at 11:51:28, bschwand (bruno schwander) wrote about "buildworld fails after last night cvsup": > pod2man: not found > *** Error code 127 > > what is pod2man ? Converter of POD (Perl's "plain old documentation") to roff's man source. Did you turn WANT_OPENSSL_MANPAGES on in /etc/make.conf? /netch To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Jun 22 12:28:43 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from segfault.kiev.ua (segfault.kiev.ua [193.193.193.4]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5E81637B403 for ; Fri, 22 Jun 2001 12:28:37 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from netch@iv.nn.kiev.ua) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by segfault.kiev.ua (8) with UUCP id WKX06638; Fri, 22 Jun 2001 22:28:22 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from netch@iv.nn.kiev.ua) Received: (from netch@localhost) by iv.nn.kiev.ua (8.11.4/8.11.4) id f5MJQN403505; Fri, 22 Jun 2001 22:26:23 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from netch) Date: Fri, 22 Jun 2001 22:26:23 +0300 From: Valentin Nechayev To: Thomas Stratmann Cc: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: sendmail does not return Message-ID: <20010622222623.H1493@iv.nn.kiev.ua> References: <3B2DF4B3.C156CB62@ruhr-uni-bochum.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <3B2DF4B3.C156CB62@ruhr-uni-bochum.de>; from thomas.stratmann@ruhr-uni-bochum.de on Mon, Jun 18, 2001 at 02:31:47PM +0200 X-42: On Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Mon, Jun 18, 2001 at 14:31:47, thomas.stratmann (Thomas Stratmann) wrote about "sendmail does not return": > have the weird problem that not anyone of sendmail, newaliases nor mailq > returns (neither does any one of them return any error message or > output). This includes the call of "sendmail -bd -q30m" out of /etc/rc > (the same applies if I do this by hand), so I have to hit ^C to continue > the boot process. It used to work fine the last time I booted (which > means I did not see any errors, and sendmail was up) although I did not > change any of my configuration in the mean time. > > Anyone an idea? Sendmail tries (in default config) to resolve all addresses from all active interfaces and add resolved names to its list of local domains (class {w} in its terminology). Each such resolving can spend a few minutes. You should add these names to /etc/hosts (easy way) or DNS (less easy way). Another solutions are described in other replies to your letter. /netch To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Jun 22 12:30:30 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mail.gmx.net (pop.gmx.net [194.221.183.20]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 59D4337B401 for ; Fri, 22 Jun 2001 12:30:27 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from Gerhard.Sittig@gmx.net) Received: (qmail 7667 invoked by uid 0); 22 Jun 2001 19:30:26 -0000 Received: from pd950884c.dip.t-dialin.net (HELO speedy.gsinet) (217.80.136.76) by mail.gmx.net (mail04) with SMTP; 22 Jun 2001 19:30:26 -0000 Received: (from sittig@localhost) by speedy.gsinet (8.8.8/8.8.8) id SAA25548 for stable@freebsd.org; Fri, 22 Jun 2001 18:55:54 +0200 Date: Fri, 22 Jun 2001 18:55:54 +0200 From: Gerhard Sittig To: stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: AC97 sound codecs Message-ID: <20010622185554.Y17514@speedy.gsinet> Mail-Followup-To: stable@freebsd.org References: <20010622110000.A21347@euripides.enigma.ie> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0i In-Reply-To: <20010622110000.A21347@euripides.enigma.ie>; from nick-fbsdstable@netability.ie on Fri, Jun 22, 2001 at 11:00:00AM +0100 Organization: System Defenestrators Inc. Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Fri, Jun 22, 2001 at 11:00 +0100, Nick Hilliard wrote: > > ktsin@acm.org (KT Sin) is rumoured to have written: > > For the i815E motherboard, you can try the ICH audio driver > > at http://www.katsurajima.seya.yokohama.jp/ich/ > > Are there any plans to commit this driver to the source tree? > I'm getting tired of having to manually add it in every time I > cvsup. Hint, hint: cvsup the CVS repo and you only have to apply things once -- since they won't get overwritten. virtually yours 82D1 9B9C 01DC 4FB4 D7B4 61BE 3F49 4F77 72DE DA76 Gerhard Sittig true | mail -s "get gpg key" Gerhard.Sittig@gmx.net -- If you don't understand or are scared by any of the above ask your parents or an adult to help you. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Jun 22 12:55: 6 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from ilhawaii.net (maile.ilhawaii.net [207.12.19.104]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A5A8E37B406 for ; Fri, 22 Jun 2001 12:55:01 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from source@hilo.net) Received: from hilo.net (max3-13.ilhawaii.net [64.75.181.13]) by ilhawaii.net (8.10.1/8.10.1) with ESMTP id f5MJmqW02272; Fri, 22 Jun 2001 09:48:52 -1000 (HST) Message-ID: <3B33A1A7.96D23284@hilo.net> Date: Fri, 22 Jun 2001 09:51:03 -1000 From: Bruce Meier X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.76 [en] (X11; U; FreeBSD 4.3-STABLE i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: bruno schwander , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: buildworld fails after last night cvsup References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I had this problem a couple of weeks ago. I rebuilt perl from the sources and then buildworld. Bruce Meier bruno schwander wrote: > > a machine currently running > FreeBSD taz.dvart.com 4.0-RELEASE FreeBSD 4.0-RELEASE #0: Mon Mar 20 > 22:50:22 GMT 2000 root@monster.cdrom.com:/usr/src/sys/compile/GENERIC > i386 > > I cvsup'ed on RELENG_4 and my buildworld failed : > > cc -O -pipe -DMONOLITH -I/usr/src/secure/usr.bin/openssl -DNO_IDEA > -I/usr/obj > /usr/src/i386/usr/include -o openssl app_rand.o apps.o asn1pars.o ca.o > ciphers. > o crl.o crl2p7.o dgst.o dh.o dhparam.o dsa.o dsaparam.o enc.o errstr.o > gendh.o g > endsa.o genrsa.o nseq.o openssl.o passwd.o pkcs12.o pkcs7.o pkcs8.o rand.o > req.o > rsa.o rsautl.o s_cb.o s_client.o s_server.o s_socket.o s_time.o sess_id.o > smime > .o speed.o spkac.o verify.o version.o x509.o -lssl -lcrypto > pod2man > /usr/src/secure/usr.bin/openssl/../../../crypto/openssl/apps/../doc/apps > //openssl.pod > openssl.1 > pod2man: not found > *** Error code 127 > > Stop in /usr/src/secure/usr.bin/openssl. > *** Error code 1 > > Stop in /usr/src/secure/usr.bin. > *** Error code 1 > > Stop in /usr/src/secure. > *** Error code 1 > > Stop in /usr/src. > *** Error code 1 > > Stop in /usr/src. > *** Error code 1 > > Stop in /usr/src. > > what is pod2man ? > > ########################################################################### > > Bruno Schwander > Senior Software Engineer > > Worldgate Communications, Inc > email: bschwand@dvart.com > > ############################################################################ > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Jun 22 13:11: 9 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from sgi04-e.std.com (sgi04-e.std.com [199.172.62.134]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CBB6A37B401; Fri, 22 Jun 2001 13:11:04 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kwc@world.std.com) Received: from world.std.com (world-f.std.com [199.172.62.5]) by sgi04-e.std.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA33106291; Fri, 22 Jun 2001 16:11:04 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from kwc@localhost) by world.std.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id QAA09961; Fri, 22 Jun 2001 16:11:03 -0400 (EDT) Date: Fri, 22 Jun 2001 16:11:03 -0400 (EDT) From: Kenneth W Cochran Message-Id: <200106222011.QAA09961@world.std.com> To: bmah@freebsd.org Subject: Re: RELNOTESng problems Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org References: <200106121443.KAA18844@world.std.com> <200106131145.HAA08631@world.std.com> Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG >From bmah@cisco.com Wed Jun 13 12:49:11 2001 >To: Kenneth W Cochran >Cc: bmah@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG >Subject: Re: RELNOTESng problems >Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2001 09:43:50 -0700 > >If memory serves me right, Kenneth W Cochran wrote: >> >buildworld/installworld doesn't do this. I didn't even consider this, >> >because this would make buildworld and installworld take even longer >> >than they do now. :-) >> >> Ok; makes sense. In that case some explicit instructions >> as to How To Do This sould be a Good Thing(tm). :) > >I *thought* I did this in src/release/doc/README but maybe I didn't >give enough details. I'll see what I can do about this..... Thanks... >> This rings of /stand/sysinstall, which, btw, I've seen no >> instructions for building, other than the occasional >> mailing-list reminder(?) > >http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/makeworld.html > >has a section on "Update /stand". So noted; thanks... :) >> Kernel maintenance being separate from {build,install}world >> is well-documented, but sysinstall & now release-docs seem >> to not be. ?? > >sysinstall is fine. I wonder if the makeworld instructions should now >mention the release documentation. *Yes* (!) :) >> >When the build is done, you can point a Web browser at the subdirectorie >> >s under /usr/src/release/doc/en_US.ISO_8859-1/ and read the HTML files >> >there. If you did the build with additional document FORMATS (i.e "make >> >'FORMATS=html pdf txt'") you'll see the other output files there as well. >> >> Excellent; I think it would be a Good Idea(tm) to place >> something like the above instructions in someplace like >> src/UPDATING or src/release/texts/*. Maybe it'll help >> head-off some mailing-list-semi-noise(?) :) > >src/release/texts/README points you to src/release/doc/README. > >src/release/doc/README has some instructions that perhaps don't give as >much detail as they should. :-p Yes, some more detail would appear to be a Good Thing(tm). :) >I'll ask imp to put an item in src/UPDATING about RELNOTESng for both >-CURRENT and 4-STABLE. Sounds like a Good Idea. :) >> So I guessed (lotsa discussion in some place like -doc); >> that's why I'm not sanguine to stirring up a ruckus, >> especially here on -stable. There are Good Reasons(tm) for >> having done this; I guess it's safe to say that there are >> still a few "rough edges." :) > >You bet. Thanks for your comments...we'll try to get better... > >Bruce. And thank *you*. But... It's still broke; I cvsup'ed late last night (Thursday, 21 June) CDT, *after* the src/doc commits & your heads-up to -stable & it still doesn't build on my box. Here are the last few lines from "make" while in /usr/src/release/doc: /usr/local/bin/jade:E: cannot open "/usr/src/release/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/relnotes/alpha/../../../../../../doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/share/sgml/catalog" (No such file or directory) /usr/local/bin/jade:E: cannot open "/usr/src/release/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/relnotes/alpha/../../../../../../doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/share/sgml/catalog" (No such file or directory) *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/src/release/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/relnotes/alpha. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/src/release/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/relnotes. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/src/release/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/src/release/doc. -------------------- Any ideas? Thanks, -kc To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Jun 22 13:35:28 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from vimfuego.saarinen.org (saarinen.org [203.79.82.14]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DF9A937B406 for ; Fri, 22 Jun 2001 13:35:24 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from juha@saarinen.org) Received: from vimfuego.saarinen.org ([192.168.1.1]) by vimfuego.saarinen.org with esmtp (Exim 3.22 #1 (Red Hack)) id 15DXdx-0000zx-00; Sat, 23 Jun 2001 08:35:05 +1200 Date: Sat, 23 Jun 2001 08:35:05 +1200 (NZST) From: Juha Saarinen To: Nick Sayer Cc: "Karsten W. Rohrbach" , Nuno Teixeira , "freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG" Subject: Re: /var/mail permissions: 0755 or 01777 ? In-Reply-To: <3B33763B.5060706@quack.kfu.com> Message-ID: X-S: Always MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Fri, 22 Jun 2001, Nick Sayer wrote: > cyrus is better still, so long as you don't mind _only_ being able to > use IMAP to play with your mail. I can recommend Courier-IMAP and its adjunct Webmail program, Sqwebmail. Fast and reliable, and not too tricky to install. It's in the ports collection, or http://courier-mta.org. -- Regards, Juha PGP fingerprint: B7E1 CC52 5FCA 9756 B502 10C8 4CD8 B066 12F3 9544 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Jun 22 13:46:35 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mail.infolibria.com (mail.infolibria.com [12.30.17.31]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D2E8837B408 for ; Fri, 22 Jun 2001 13:46:31 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from loverso@infolibria.com) Received: from infolibria.com (gw.infolibria.com [12.30.17.254]) by mail.infolibria.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id CB7BB15CC05; Fri, 22 Jun 2001 15:44:23 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <3B33AE59.A2D28EEE@infolibria.com> Date: Fri, 22 Jun 2001 16:45:13 -0400 From: John LoVerso Organization: InfoLibria X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.77 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Eric Parusel Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: SMP/fxp problem... References: <200106221638.MAA35061@www.cmass.org> <009a01c0fb5a$5e1189d0$0600020a@frontend> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > When you say "changing a BIOS settings that limited the number of IRQ > assignments from a legacy mode", did you mean that you increased the > limit of IRQ assignments from a legacy mode, or decreased the limit? > (I think you mean increased, but I'd like to be 100% sure :) ) Increase. In December I spent a small amount of time tracking down this problem (I added a trace buffer to see if I could pinpoint the interrupt load at the time I'd get a "device timeout"). Somewhere I got a hint about it being an SMP problem with shared IRQs; probably from searching the freebsd-hackers list or from Intel documentation. Anyway, I made the change and it solved the problem. The BIOS setting is: PCI IRQs to IO-APIC Mapping: Enable Enabled- BIOS will use all 24 IO APIC pins in describing PCI interrupt conditions in the MP table. Disabled- Only 16 std ISA IRQs are used. Do not enable if OS does not support this feature. John To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Jun 22 13:51: 4 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mail.infolibria.com (mail.infolibria.com [12.30.17.31]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7325C37B401 for ; Fri, 22 Jun 2001 13:51:02 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from loverso@infolibria.com) Received: from infolibria.com (gw.infolibria.com [12.30.17.254]) by mail.infolibria.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C7EB315CC05; Fri, 22 Jun 2001 15:48:54 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <3B33AF68.DA72F7C6@infolibria.com> Date: Fri, 22 Jun 2001 16:49:44 -0400 From: John LoVerso Organization: InfoLibria X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.77 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Mike Tancsa Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: SMP/fxp problem... References: <03b301c0f9d3$dbc37790$0600020a@frontend> <5.1.0.14.0.20010622125621.035b2ec0@marble.sentex.ca> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > >Let me emphasize that I'm still using the "old" pci/if_fxp.c that was > >present up to 4.3-RELEASE, not the "new" miibus'ified dev/fxp/if_fxp.c > >that was MFC'd 6 weeks ago. > > Does the new driver not work for you ? I haven't tried it. Besides, the new fxp driver hasn't even seen a -RELEASE yet. Let me emphasize that the machine in question has been happily running 4.1.1-RELEASE with a pair of P2/450s for 8 months now. Since I made the BIOS change to fix the fxp problem, it's been rock solid stable. I see no need to disturb it. John To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Jun 22 14: 3:28 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from dc-mx07.cluster1.charter.net (dc-mx07.cluster0.hsacorp.net [209.225.8.17]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9A11637B406 for ; Fri, 22 Jun 2001 14:03:24 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from duhring@charter.net) Received: from [24.217.157.157] (HELO dave.uhring.com) by dc-mx07.cluster1.charter.net (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 3.4.6) with SMTP id 9168661; Fri, 22 Jun 2001 17:09:59 -0400 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" From: Dave Uhring To: Valentin Nechayev , "Karsten W. Rohrbach" Subject: Re: /var/mail permissions: 0755 or 01777 ? Date: Fri, 22 Jun 2001 16:03:18 -0500 X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.2] Cc: Nuno Teixeira , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG References: <20010621214821.C376-100000@gateway.bogus> <20010622164453.J64624@mail.webmonster.de> <20010622210917.B1493@iv.nn.kiev.ua> In-Reply-To: <20010622210917.B1493@iv.nn.kiev.ua> MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <01062216031800.00775@dave.uhring.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Friday 22 June 2001 13:09, Valentin Nechayev wrote: > Fri, Jun 22, 2001 at 16:44:53, karsten (Karsten W. Rohrbach) wrote about "Re: /var/mail permissions: 0755 or 01777 ?": > > use Maildir > > faster, simpler, secure -- simply put: better ;-) > > ...and avoid uwashington code (pine, uw-imap, ...) > > I fall here to offtopic, but... > Why Washington state provides three organizations which produce more > ugly code than all another world - UW, WU and Microsoft? > > > /netch > Ahhhh. WU is in St. Louis, Missouri. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Jun 22 14: 8: 8 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from pt.lu (ppp03-90070708-099.pt.lu [195.46.251.99]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id CAAEC37B401 for ; Fri, 22 Jun 2001 14:08:06 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from frzell@mailsvr.pt.lu) Received: (qmail 5107 invoked by uid 1000); 22 Jun 2001 21:05:23 -0000 Date: 22 Jun 2001 21:05:23 -0000 Message-ID: <20010622210523.5106.qmail@mailsvr.pt.lu> From: frzell@mailsvr.pt.lu To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG auth d4c6346f unsubscribe freebsd-stable frzell@mailsvr.pt.lu To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Jun 22 14:56:18 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from dargo.talarian.com (dargo.talarian.com [207.5.33.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 55C0E37B407 for ; Fri, 22 Jun 2001 14:56:15 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nsayer@quack.kfu.com) Received: from moya.talarian.com (moya.talarian.com [10.4.10.8]) by dargo.talarian.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 641E422B0B; Fri, 22 Jun 2001 14:54:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: from beast.talarian.com (beast.talarian.com [10.4.10.6]) by moya.talarian.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C7CC0FF; Fri, 22 Jun 2001 14:56:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: from quack.kfu.com (localhost [::1]) by beast.talarian.com (8.11.3/8.11.3) with ESMTP id f5MLuDP40735; Fri, 22 Jun 2001 14:56:13 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nsayer@quack.kfu.com) Message-ID: <3B33BEFD.2070407@quack.kfu.com> Date: Fri, 22 Jun 2001 14:56:13 -0700 From: Nick Sayer Reply-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD 4.3-RELEASE i386; en-US; rv:0.9.1) Gecko/20010613 X-Accept-Language: en-us MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Valentin Nechayev , freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: /var/mail permissions: 0755 or 01777 ? References: <20010621214821.C376-100000@gateway.bogus> <20010622164453.J64624@mail.webmonster.de> <20010622210917.B1493@iv.nn.kiev.ua> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > I fall here to offtopic, but... > Why Washington state provides three organizations which produce more > ugly code than all another world - UW, WU and Microsoft? Isn't WU in St. Louis, MO? To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Jun 22 15:54:58 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from smtp.easystreet.com (easystreet.com [206.26.36.40]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5617137B406 for ; Fri, 22 Jun 2001 15:54:55 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jwatkins@firstplan.com) Received: from nightstalker ([206.129.94.230]) by smtp.easystreet.com (8.11.2/8.11.2) with SMTP id f5MMssn20594 for ; Fri, 22 Jun 2001 15:54:54 -0700 (PDT) From: "Jason Watkins" To: "Stable" Subject: RE: Staying *really stable* in FreeBSD Date: Fri, 22 Jun 2001 15:54:51 -0700 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 In-Reply-To: <15155.29806.145760.832648@guru.mired.org> Importance: Normal Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG >>> If the problem is instead that STABLE isn't STABLE enough and RELENG doesn't move fast enough - though evidence for the latter would also seem to be in short supply - then one of those two problems should be attacked, rather than trying to automate something that experience shows doesn't automate well. Thanks mike. I didn't mean to criticise anyone, I just mean that the root problem here is -stable isn't always stable. Although adding another tag would provide another buffer layer, I personally feel it's missing the point. Somewhere, someone has to approve moving things from -current to -stable, and figuring out how to better equip those people is what I think would bring about the best situation. I definately think life is easyer when you rebuild the system every month or 2 on a reasonable schedual instead of letting changes accumulate until it becomes a day long affair. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Jun 22 16:14:14 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from igloo.chello.no (c50s25h5.upc.chello.no [213.46.192.50]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 332D937B40D for ; Fri, 22 Jun 2001 16:14:06 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from yskundbe@chello.no) Received: (from eskimo@localhost) by igloo.chello.no (8.11.3/8.11.3) id f5MNJ2d92200 for stable@freebsd.org; Fri, 22 Jun 2001 23:19:02 GMT (envelope-from yskundbe@chello.no) X-Authentication-Warning: igloo.chello.no: eskimo set sender to yskundbe@chello.no using -f Date: Fri, 22 Jun 2001 23:19:01 +0000 From: Oystein To: stable@freebsd.org Subject: kernel compile broke Message-ID: <20010622231901.A92172@chello.no> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG CVSup as of saturday 23.6, and kernel compile broke with this: make: don't know how to make /usr/src/sys/modules/ipfilter/../../netinet/mlfk_ipl.c. Stop *** Error code 2 Stop in /usr/src/sys/modules. *** Error code 1 Now what? Oystein S. -- Blessed are they who can laugh at themselves for they shall never cease to be amused. * http://home.chello.no/~yskundbe/ yskundbe@chello.no http://www.unamerican.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Jun 22 16:32:36 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from winston.osd.bsdi.com (adsl-64-173-15-98.dsl.sntc01.pacbell.net [64.173.15.98]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E6C0B37B408 for ; Fri, 22 Jun 2001 16:32:33 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jkh@osd.bsdi.com) Received: from localhost (jkh@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by winston.osd.bsdi.com (8.11.4/8.11.3) with ESMTP id f5MNTMt14635; Fri, 22 Jun 2001 16:29:22 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jkh@osd.bsdi.com) To: netch@iv.nn.kiev.ua Cc: mwm@mired.org, davep@who.net, freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Staying *really stable* in FreeBSD In-Reply-To: <20010622211749.D1493@iv.nn.kiev.ua> References: <200106220409.f5M49b429872@baloo.ne.mediaone.net> <15155.3827.672353.34621@guru.mired.org> <20010622211749.D1493@iv.nn.kiev.ua> X-Mailer: Mew version 1.94.1 on Emacs 20.7 / Mule 4.0 (HANANOEN) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <20010622162922F.jkh@osd.bsdi.com> Date: Fri, 22 Jun 2001 16:29:22 -0700 From: Jordan Hubbard X-Dispatcher: imput version 20000228(IM140) Lines: 6 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > Moreover, I know a man which says that the last Really Stable release > was 1.1.5.1. Ah, tell Rod I said Hi! ;-) - Jordan To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Jun 22 16:54:12 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from zircon.seattle.wa.us (sense-sea-CovadSub-0-228.oz.net [216.39.147.228]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id A98F337B401 for ; Fri, 22 Jun 2001 16:54:08 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from joe@zircon.seattle.wa.us) Received: (qmail 22165 invoked by uid 1001); 22 Jun 2001 23:55:20 -0000 From: Joe Kelsey MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <15155.56039.812973.488190@zircon.zircon.seattle.wa.us> Date: Fri, 22 Jun 2001 16:55:19 -0700 To: "Jason Watkins" Cc: "Stable" Subject: RE: Staying *really stable* in FreeBSD In-Reply-To: References: <15155.29806.145760.832648@guru.mired.org> X-Mailer: VM 6.90 under Emacs 20.7.1 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Jason Watkins writes: > >>> If the problem is instead that STABLE isn't STABLE enough and RELENG > doesn't move fast enough - though evidence for the latter would also > seem to be in short supply - then one of those two problems should be > attacked, rather than trying to automate something that experience > shows doesn't automate well. > > Thanks mike. I didn't mean to criticise anyone, I just mean that the root > problem here is -stable isn't always stable. Sorry Jason. Adding another tag is *never* going to solve your imaginary problem. I say imaginary because it really is not a problem. The people who complain are always people who have an "automatic midnight cvsup" or some other regular procedure that they run without thinking first. As the handbook says, you *must* track the stable mailing list before even thinking about running cvsup against the appropriate tag. Adding a new tag will simply move the problem to those people who still don't read the mailing list or even try to engage their brains before running cvsup. This is an organization of *volunteers*. It is up to each and every individual who wants to run FreeBSD to understand the consequences of their actions before starting. I would personally recommend that most people stay away from FreeBSD. It is definitely *not* a turnkey system. Anyone who has an automatic cvsup and rebuild overnight is just asking for trouble. > Although adding another tag would provide another buffer layer, I > personally feel it's missing the point. Somewhere, someone has to > approve moving things from -current to -stable, and figuring out how > to better equip those people is what I think would bring about the > best situation. Have you ever looked into the committers list? It is simply not possible for there to be any central control over checkins as you describe. The number of projects and people is simply overwhelming. The way to better equip people is to force them to read the handbook. The way to force them to read the handbook is for them to get surprised by their unthinking actions. FreeBSD is not for tyros. > I definately think life is easyer when you rebuild the system every > month or 2 on a reasonable schedual instead of letting changes > accumulate until it becomes a day long affair. I personally think it does not matter how often you cvsup and rebuild. Sometimes, I go for months, sometimes I do it daily. It all depends. If you have any thoughts of running cvsup at all, you need to have a fast connection. It is definitely not for dialup users. Maybe that should go in the handbook--only do it if you have DSL or cable modem or better. My basic point is that it is not possible to "schedule" the activity in advance due to the changing nature of the source tree. You have to constantly monitor the mailing list and make your own decision based on mailing list traffic. /Joe To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Jun 22 17:10:20 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from smtp.easystreet.com (easystreet.com [206.26.36.40]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 46B5937B407 for ; Fri, 22 Jun 2001 17:10:17 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jwatkins@firstplan.com) Received: from nightstalker ([206.129.94.230]) by smtp.easystreet.com (8.11.2/8.11.2) with SMTP id f5N0A2f16933; Fri, 22 Jun 2001 17:10:02 -0700 (PDT) From: "Jason Watkins" To: "Joe Kelsey" Cc: "Stable" Subject: RE: Staying *really stable* in FreeBSD Date: Fri, 22 Jun 2001 17:09:58 -0700 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 In-Reply-To: <15155.56039.812973.488190@zircon.zircon.seattle.wa.us> Importance: Normal Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG >>>Sorry Jason. Adding another tag is *never* going to solve your imaginary problem. I say imaginary because it really is not a problem. You misunderstand me, I was commenting *against* adding another tag, precisely because of what you say: it just moves the problem. >>>This is an organization of *volunteers*. It is up to each and every individual who wants to run FreeBSD to understand the consequences of their actions before starting. I would personally recommend that most people stay away from FreeBSD. It is definitely *not* a turnkey system. Anyone who has an automatic cvsup and rebuild overnight is just asking for trouble. I react rather badly to some of your comments concerning the usability of FreeBSD. Our goal *should* be a simple and turnkey system, or at the least, as close as we can get to that without making an unacceptable compramise. I agree about automatic rebuilds, but that's not what this discussion is about. > Although adding another tag would provide another buffer layer, I > personally feel it's missing the point. Somewhere, someone has to > approve moving things from -current to -stable, and figuring out how > to better equip those people is what I think would bring about the > best situation. >>>Have you ever looked into the committers list? It is simply not possible for there to be any central control over checkins as you describe. The number of projects and people is simply overwhelming. I mean better equip the commiters. Such things are possible, and done every day in the software world. Many aspects of code review and regression testing can be automated. The time of volenteers in the committer group is highly valuable. We should treat it as such, and equip them to the fullest extent possible. Again, what I see as the problem is -stable isn't as stable as some people would like, and the way to attack it is improving the world committers deal with. >>>The way to better equip people is to force them to read the handbook. The way to force them to read the handbook is for them to get surprised by their unthinking actions. FreeBSD is not for tyros. The handbook is not complete documentation, and again this is not what we're talking about. >>>My basic point is that it is not possible to "schedule" the activity in advance due to the changing nature of the source tree. You have to constantly monitor the mailing list and make your own decision based on mailing list traffic. You're not at all following what Mike and I were saying. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Jun 22 17:28:49 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from hotmail.com (f222.law14.hotmail.com [64.4.21.222]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DB3C637B407 for ; Fri, 22 Jun 2001 17:28:46 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from iridefree@hotmail.com) Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Fri, 22 Jun 2001 17:28:46 -0700 Received: from 24.241.32.160 by lw14fd.law14.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Sat, 23 Jun 2001 00:28:46 GMT X-Originating-IP: [24.241.32.160] From: "Bryan Berch" To: yskundbe@chello.no, stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: kernel compile broke Date: Fri, 22 Jun 2001 20:28:46 -0400 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 23 Jun 2001 00:28:46.0755 (UTC) FILETIME=[774E6730:01C0FB7B] Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I just cvsup'd and new kernel compiled fine >From: Oystein >To: stable@freebsd.org >Subject: kernel compile broke >Date: Fri, 22 Jun 2001 23:19:01 +0000 > >CVSup as of saturday 23.6, and kernel compile broke with this: > >make: don't know how to make >/usr/src/sys/modules/ipfilter/../../netinet/mlfk_ipl.c. Stop >*** Error code 2 >Stop in /usr/src/sys/modules. >*** Error code 1 > > >Now what? > > >Oystein S. >-- >Blessed are they who can laugh at themselves >for they shall never cease to be amused. > * http://home.chello.no/~yskundbe/ >yskundbe@chello.no http://www.unamerican.com > >To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org >with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Jun 22 17:30:16 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from veldy.net (w028.z064001117.msp-mn.dsl.cnc.net [64.1.117.28]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2693C37B401 for ; Fri, 22 Jun 2001 17:30:12 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from veldy@veldy.net) Received: from cascade (cascade.veldy.net [192.168.1.1]) by veldy.net (Postfix) with SMTP id 674FEBAAC; Fri, 22 Jun 2001 19:30:11 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <000601c0fb7b$b114e660$0101a8c0@cascade> From: "Thomas T. Veldhouse" To: "Valentin Nechayev" , "Le Linuxien" Cc: References: <20010622215922.F1493@iv.nn.kiev.ua> Subject: Re: No CPU info.. Date: Fri, 22 Jun 2001 19:30:23 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Perhaps you are running a CPU that is faster than patch 1005 supports? You could upgrade to 1007. Tom Veldhouse veldy@veldy.net ----- Original Message ----- From: "Valentin Nechayev" To: "Le Linuxien" Cc: Sent: Friday, June 22, 2001 1:59 PM Subject: Re: No CPU info.. > Wed, Jun 20, 2001 at 00:08:20, lelinuxien (Le Linuxien) wrote about "No CPU info..": > > > I'm using FreeBSD 4.3 with the Generic kernel and I can't see my CPU info... > > it's detected while the boot... but when I'm running TOP, IDLE and TOTAL CPU > > usage are at 0,0%... all CPU stats are at 0,0%...even for processes....With > > gkrellm it's the same thing..nothing appears for the cpu info... > > > > I'm using an Asus A7V motherboard with patch 1005. > > This probably means broken statclock. I saw it on a bunch of Asus P2B-DS > mainboards. > > > # Notes on APM > # The flags takes the following meaning for apm0: > # 0x0020 Statclock is broken. > # If apm is omitted, some systems require sysctl -w kern.timecounter.method=1 > # for correct timekeeping. > > > > /netch > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Jun 22 21:15:39 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from snipe.mail.pas.earthlink.net (snipe.mail.pas.earthlink.net [207.217.120.62]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3BFC437B401 for ; Fri, 22 Jun 2001 21:15:35 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kway@overtone.org) Received: from bean.overtone.org (user-2inikcg.dialup.mindspring.com [165.121.81.144]) by snipe.mail.pas.earthlink.net (EL-8_9_3_3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id VAA00050; Fri, 22 Jun 2001 21:15:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: by bean.overtone.org (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 52EBB5BB04; Fri, 22 Jun 2001 23:54:11 -0400 (EDT) Date: Fri, 22 Jun 2001 23:54:10 -0400 From: Kevin Way To: Joe Kelsey Cc: stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Staying *really stable* in FreeBSD Message-ID: <20010622235410.A41593@bean.overtone.org> References: <15155.29806.145760.832648@guru.mired.org> <15155.56039.812973.488190@zircon.zircon.seattle.wa.us> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-md5; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="fdj2RfSjLxBAspz7" Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <15155.56039.812973.488190@zircon.zircon.seattle.wa.us>; from joe@zircon.seattle.wa.us on Fri, Jun 22, 2001 at 04:55:19PM -0700 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG --fdj2RfSjLxBAspz7 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline > If you have any thoughts of running cvsup at all, you need to have a > fast connection. It is definitely not for dialup users. Maybe that > should go in the handbook--only do it if you have DSL or cable modem or > better. cvsup works fine over dialup, and not unacceptably slowly either. A satisfied dialup cvsup user, Kevin Way --fdj2RfSjLxBAspz7 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (FreeBSD) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE7NBLiKxA01iDoLN4RArddAKCey1Oh6QUF9gKNAh3T/iY7AzAK8gCdEMHK dMeAunoc7zJvgTh+Qz+0siE= =Zvup -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --fdj2RfSjLxBAspz7-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Jun 23 1:19:54 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from whale.sunbay.crimea.ua (whale.sunbay.crimea.ua [212.110.138.65]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BBF8037B407 for ; Sat, 23 Jun 2001 01:19:47 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ru@whale.sunbay.crimea.ua) Received: (from ru@localhost) by whale.sunbay.crimea.ua (8.11.2/8.11.2) id f5N8JcH27598; Sat, 23 Jun 2001 11:19:38 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from ru) Date: Sat, 23 Jun 2001 11:19:38 +0300 From: Ruslan Ermilov To: Oystein Cc: stable@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: kernel compile broke Message-ID: <20010623111938.C25699@sunbay.com> Mail-Followup-To: Oystein , stable@FreeBSD.org References: <20010622231901.A92172@chello.no> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <20010622231901.A92172@chello.no>; from yskundbe@chello.no on Fri, Jun 22, 2001 at 11:19:01PM +0000 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Fri, Jun 22, 2001 at 11:19:01PM +0000, Oystein wrote: > CVSup as of saturday 23.6, and kernel compile broke with this: > > make: don't know how to make > /usr/src/sys/modules/ipfilter/../../netinet/mlfk_ipl.c. Stop > *** Error code 2 > Stop in /usr/src/sys/modules. > *** Error code 1 > > > Now what? > Remove your /usr/obj and recompile. -- Ruslan Ermilov Oracle Developer/DBA, ru@sunbay.com Sunbay Software AG, ru@FreeBSD.org FreeBSD committer, +380.652.512.251 Simferopol, Ukraine http://www.FreeBSD.org The Power To Serve http://www.oracle.com Enabling The Information Age To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Jun 23 1:36:18 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from smtp.wanadoo.nl (smtp.wanadoo.nl [194.134.193.6]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8F72937B401 for ; Sat, 23 Jun 2001 01:36:10 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from steveo@eircom.net) Received: from ams-gw.sohara.org (p1505.vcu.wanadoo.nl [194.134.170.230]) by smtp.wanadoo.nl (8.11.2/8.11.2) with SMTP id f5N8a1J28830; Sat, 23 Jun 2001 10:36:01 +0200 (MET DST) Date: Sat, 23 Jun 2001 10:35:57 +0200 From: "Steve O'Hara-Smith" To: "Jason Watkins" Cc: joe@zircon.seattle.wa.us, stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Staying *really stable* in FreeBSD Message-Id: <20010623103557.547f67c5.steveo@eircom.net> In-Reply-To: References: <15155.56039.812973.488190@zircon.zircon.seattle.wa.us> X-Mailer: Sylpheed version 0.4.99cvs3 (GTK+ 1.2.10; i386-unknown-freebsdelf4.3) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Fri, 22 Jun 2001 17:09:58 -0700 "Jason Watkins" wrote: JW> I react rather badly to some of your comments concerning the usability of JW> FreeBSD. Our goal *should* be a simple and turnkey system, or at the least, That would be a RELEASE. They are usually pretty good at being just that IMHO. JW> I mean better equip the commiters. Such things are possible, and done every JW> day in the software world. Many aspects of code review and regression JW> testing can be automated. The time of volenteers in the committer group is The time it takes to set up good automated regression testing is amazing, it is also a good way to perpetuate bugs. More importantly such testing is nearly useless in the face of new functionality, or timing and compatability issues. The general quality of -stable indicates that pre commit testing is done rather better than average in the industry. Remember that in most of the industry the only people who see software at the equivalent of -stable are *developers*. It is not unusual for software to emerge from several weeks of regression, integration, acceptance and soak testing into the field only to get bug reports in the first week of real use. JW> Again, what I see as the problem is -stable isn't as stable as some people Frankly you are dreaming if you think -stable can get much better without slowing down a lot, at which point you hit the security fix branch which never contains any feature that hasn't survived a Beta test. Hammer on the Beta and RC phases to improve the quality of this. -- Directable Mirrors - A Better Way To Focus The Sun http://www.best.com/~sohara To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Jun 23 1:58:19 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from smtp.wanadoo.nl (larry.euronet.nl [194.134.35.138]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6C4F237B401 for ; Sat, 23 Jun 2001 01:58:15 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from steveo@eircom.net) Received: from ams-gw.sohara.org (p1505.vcu.wanadoo.nl [194.134.170.230]) by smtp.wanadoo.nl (8.11.3/8.11.3) with SMTP id f5N8nrj14403; Sat, 23 Jun 2001 10:49:54 +0200 (MEST) Date: Sat, 23 Jun 2001 10:49:51 +0200 From: "Steve O'Hara-Smith" To: "David A. Panariti" Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Staying *really stable* in FreeBSD Message-Id: <20010623104951.5bd243ea.steveo@eircom.net> In-Reply-To: <200106221621.f5MGL2435108@baloo.ne.mediaone.net> References: <200106221621.f5MGL2435108@baloo.ne.mediaone.net> X-Mailer: Sylpheed version 0.4.99cvs3 (GTK+ 1.2.10; i386-unknown-freebsdelf4.3) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Fri, 22 Jun 2001 12:21:02 -0400 "David A. Panariti" wrote: DP> The only issue I see is when a RELENG_X_Y appears after an DP> RELENG_X+1_Z has begun. My choice is highest X wins. Since the Not all will agree with this choice. (RELENG_X+1_Z represents the best that can be done with feature set X+1 which may not suit someone who only needs feature set X or even X-1). DP> Like I said before, I would be more than happy to do it myself, if I DP> had programmatic access to all tags. Here's an "AI" program to make DP> the "decision": CVS does not lend itself to automagic tags (look into the cvs documentation) so the only way is to run a script to move the tag around. You might just as well use a script or accept that it is really rather pointless automating a trivial task that gets performed once every few months. If you really want to do this keep your own copy of the repository and tag it yourself with a script just after the cvsup run. Make a port of the script and send-pr it in for anyone else who wants to. DP> And regardless, this is a stream *I* would track, so it is not DP> 100% wrong. Somehow you have to decide or codify rules for the jump in either first or second place. It is not a trivial decision and it is far from clear that the same rule will apply for every release so making it a manual decision is really a *good* idea. -- Directable Mirrors - A Better Way To Focus The Sun http://www.best.com/~sohara To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Jun 23 2:13: 7 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from moutvdom01.kundenserver.de (moutvdom01.kundenserver.de [195.20.224.200]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DC23F37B406 for ; Sat, 23 Jun 2001 02:13:03 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from list@rachinsky.de) Received: from [195.20.224.209] (helo=mrvdom02.schlund.de) by moutvdom01.kundenserver.de with esmtp (Exim 2.12 #2) id 15DjTT-00065B-00 for freebsd-stable@freebsd.org; Sat, 23 Jun 2001 11:13:03 +0200 Received: from p3e9b8e35.dip.t-dialin.net ([62.155.142.53] helo=pc3) by mrvdom02.schlund.de with smtp (Exim 2.12 #2) id 15DjSn-0006IJ-00 for freebsd-stable@freebsd.org; Sat, 23 Jun 2001 11:12:22 +0200 Message-ID: <002d01c0fbc4$54192630$0364000a@abc> From: "Nicolas Rachinsky" To: References: <002d01c0fb41$917bf580$0364000a@rachinsky> <15155.33558.40690.325075@hip186.ch.intel.com> Subject: Re: lp0 device Date: Sat, 23 Jun 2001 11:10:04 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > man 4 lp Thanks to everybody who answered. I thought I tried "man -a lp", but obviously I didn't. Nicolas To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Jun 23 7:48:36 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from grumpy.dyndns.org (user-24-214-76-217.knology.net [24.214.76.217]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1501637B406 for ; Sat, 23 Jun 2001 07:48:34 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dkelly@grumpy.dyndns.org) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by grumpy.dyndns.org (8.11.3/8.11.3) with ESMTP id f5NElnx01268; Sat, 23 Jun 2001 09:47:49 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from dkelly@grumpy.dyndns.org) Message-Id: <200106231447.f5NElnx01268@grumpy.dyndns.org> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.3.1 01/18/2001 with nmh-1.0.4 To: Kevin Way Cc: Joe Kelsey , stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Staying *really stable* in FreeBSD In-Reply-To: Message from Kevin Way of "Fri, 22 Jun 2001 23:54:10 EDT." <20010622235410.A41593@bean.overtone.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Sat, 23 Jun 2001 09:47:49 -0500 From: David Kelly Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Kevin Way writes: > > > If you have any thoughts of running cvsup at all, you need to have a > > fast connection. It is definitely not for dialup users. Maybe that > > should go in the handbook--only do it if you have DSL or cable modem or > > better. > > cvsup works fine over dialup, and not unacceptably slowly either. > > A satisfied dialup cvsup user, I agree. Am not sure it runs much faster now over my cable modem link. With a 33.6k modem "systat -v" would show my cvs volume sustain 80% busy. A bi-weekly cvsup of everything in cvs usually takes about 15 minutes over a 64k ISDN connection. Took 16 minutes just now over cable modem. -- David Kelly N4HHE, dkelly@hiwaay.net ===================================================================== The human mind ordinarily operates at only ten percent of its capacity -- the rest is overhead for the operating system. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Jun 23 8: 5: 4 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from krusty.e-technik.uni-dortmund.de (krusty.E-Technik.Uni-Dortmund.DE [129.217.163.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0C1A737B406 for ; Sat, 23 Jun 2001 08:05:00 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ma@dt.e-technik.uni-dortmund.de) Received: from emma1.emma.line.org (krusty.dt.e-technik.uni-dortmund.de [129.217.163.1]) by krusty.e-technik.uni-dortmund.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3AFE9A3826 for ; Sat, 23 Jun 2001 17:04:58 +0200 (CEST) Received: by emma1.emma.line.org (Postfix, from userid 500) id 3B75BA2001; Sat, 23 Jun 2001 17:04:54 +0200 (CEST) Date: Sat, 23 Jun 2001 17:04:54 +0200 From: Matthias Andree To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Microsoft uses FreeBSD Message-ID: <20010623170454.A24245@emma1.emma.line.org> References: <20010622071339.61802.qmail@web14703.mail.yahoo.com> <3B330731.C8D43DF0@ludd.luth.se> <3B33918D.8080709@netexplorer.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <3B33918D.8080709@netexplorer.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.19i Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Deven Kampenhout writes: > You hit the nail right on the head, buddy. That is exactly why I don't > appreciate the way M$ is bashing on open source. I can assure everyone > that if FreeBSD and Linux were to switch places regarding popularity and > market share, that M$ would be attacking FreeBSD and the BSD license > just as vigorously. And the BSD license would be the bad guy, because everyone is free to change it and then sell it. Remember, Shared Source is the Good One. SCNR. -- Matthias Andree To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Jun 23 9:57:22 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from krusty.e-technik.uni-dortmund.de (krusty.E-Technik.Uni-Dortmund.DE [129.217.163.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BB24D37B407 for ; Sat, 23 Jun 2001 09:57:20 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ma@dt.e-technik.uni-dortmund.de) Received: from emma1.emma.line.org (krusty.dt.e-technik.uni-dortmund.de [129.217.163.1]) by krusty.e-technik.uni-dortmund.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id D7F4FA3826 for ; Sat, 23 Jun 2001 18:57:18 +0200 (CEST) Received: by emma1.emma.line.org (Postfix, from userid 500) id 100CBA2001; Sat, 23 Jun 2001 18:57:16 +0200 (CEST) To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Microsoft uses FreeBSD References: <20010622071339.61802.qmail@web14703.mail.yahoo.com> <3B330731.C8D43DF0@ludd.luth.se> <3B33918D.8080709@netexplorer.org> <20010623170454.A24245@emma1.emma.line.org> In-Reply-To: <20010623170454.A24245@emma1.emma.line.org> From: Matthias Andree Date: 23 Jun 2001 18:57:16 +0200 Message-ID: Lines: 11 User-Agent: Gnus/5.0808 (Gnus v5.8.8) Emacs/20.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Matthias Andree writes: > And the BSD license would be the bad guy, because everyone is free to > change it and then sell it. Remember, Shared Source is the Good One. ---- ---- Clarification: "It" is the software that is subject to BSD licensing. (Geee, I spoiled my rant.) -- Matthias Andree To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Jun 23 9:59: 3 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from femail2.sdc1.sfba.home.com (femail2.sdc1.sfba.home.com [24.0.95.82]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 19C2637B407; Sat, 23 Jun 2001 09:59:00 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from bmah@employees.org) Received: from intruder.bmah.org ([24.176.204.87]) by femail2.sdc1.sfba.home.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.20 201-229-121-120-20010223) with ESMTP id <20010623165859.ZACJ20390.femail2.sdc1.sfba.home.com@intruder.bmah.org>; Sat, 23 Jun 2001 09:58:59 -0700 Received: (from bmah@localhost) by intruder.bmah.org (8.11.4/8.11.3) id f5NGwxH11681; Sat, 23 Jun 2001 09:58:59 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from bmah) Message-Id: <200106231658.f5NGwxH11681@intruder.bmah.org> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.3.1 01/18/2001 with nmh-1.0.4 To: Kenneth W Cochran Cc: bmah@freebsd.org, freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: RELNOTESng problems In-Reply-To: <200106222011.QAA09961@world.std.com> References: <200106121443.KAA18844@world.std.com> <200106131145.HAA08631@world.std.com> <200106222011.QAA09961@world.std.com> Comments: In-reply-to Kenneth W Cochran message dated "Fri, 22 Jun 2001 16:11:03 -0400." From: bmah@freebsd.org (Bruce A. Mah) Reply-To: bmah@freebsd.org X-Face: g~c`.{#4q0"(V*b#g[i~rXgm*w;:nMfz%_RZLma)UgGN&=j`5vXoU^@n5v4:OO)c["!w)nD/!!~e4Sj7LiT'6*wZ83454H""lb{CC%T37O!!'S$S&D}sem7I[A 2V%N&+ X-Image-Url: http://www.employees.org/~bmah/Images/bmah-cisco-small.gif X-Url: http://www.employees.org/~bmah/ Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="==_Exmh_2103448125P"; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Date: Sat, 23 Jun 2001 09:58:59 -0700 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG --==_Exmh_2103448125P Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii If memory serves me right, Kenneth W Cochran wrote: > And thank *you*. But... It's still broke; I cvsup'ed late > last night (Thursday, 21 June) CDT, *after* the src/doc > commits & your heads-up to -stable & it still doesn't build on my box. > > Here are the last few lines from "make" while in /usr/src/release/doc: > > /usr/local/bin/jade:E: cannot open "/usr/src/release/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/reln > otes/alpha/../../../../../../doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/share/sgml/catalog" (No such > file or directory) > /usr/local/bin/jade:E: cannot open "/usr/src/release/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/reln > otes/alpha/../../../../../../doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/share/sgml/catalog" (No such > file or directory) > *** Error code 1 I'd guess off-hand that your doc/ tree isn't up to date. What happened last week was that someone renamed a number of the I18N codes for doc/ and for src/ in -CURRENT from the form "en_US.ISO_8859-1" to the form "en_US.ISO8859-1" (note there's only one underscore in the language code). This broke the release documentation for 4-STABLE, which lives (as you know) under src/, because its language codes were inconsistent with those in doc/. After much angst and a little work in the repository, we now have the release documentation using the new style (e.g. "en_US.ISO8859-1" language codes), which is consistent with doc/. If you haven't updated your doc/ tree since around 10 June, you might need to do so again to grab the new language codes. Another possibility is that you might need DOC_PREFIX pointing at your doc/ tree. You didn't post the command you used to do the make above, so I wasn't sure if you did this or not. Hope this helps, Bruce. PS. Keep on my case about improving the documentation for building the release documentation. I probably won't be able to do anything about this for a couple weeks, but I think it's important. --==_Exmh_2103448125P Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (FreeBSD) Comment: Exmh version 2.3.1+ 05/14/2001 iD8DBQE7NMrT2MoxcVugUsMRAtBOAKC6ZN4H2twRNpvRQjtpjlL9RdN+VwCfbbq/ 1rC4uPsy+p+S/r00BMfP7ZM= =sRhn -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --==_Exmh_2103448125P-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Jun 23 10:49:14 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from sanson.reyes.somos.net (freyes.static.inch.com [216.223.199.224]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A9F9737B405 for ; Sat, 23 Jun 2001 10:49:10 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from lists@natserv.com) Received: from zoraida.reyes.somos.net (zoraida.reyes.somos.net [192.168.10.6]) by sanson.reyes.somos.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA03553; Sat, 23 Jun 2001 13:45:37 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from lists@natserv.com) Date: Sat, 23 Jun 2001 13:49:46 -0400 (EDT) From: Francisco Reyes X-X-Sender: To: "Karsten W. Rohrbach" Cc: Nick Sayer , Nuno Teixeira , Subject: Re: /var/mail permissions: 0755 or 01777 ? In-Reply-To: <20010622185912.T64624@mail.webmonster.de> Message-ID: <20010623134628.A511-100000@zoraida.reyes.somos.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Fri, 22 Jun 2001, Karsten W. Rohrbach wrote: > over the past years i started to hate pine with all the security flaws > and other operational problem that arise (mainly lack of support for > maildir). I am in exactly the same boat. A real shame since Pine's interface is fairly easy to use. > for my fellow *bsd shell people, mutt does the best job and even newbies > to unix and the like take a preconfigured muttrc and there they go. I just downloaded mutt a few days ago. I have not copied a pre-configured muttrc, but just reading the docs, mutt looks intimidating. > > unpack into your www data direectory (www.squirrelmail.org if you are > > curious). > > heard about that, gonna try it out on some intranet server next week. I have not looked at squirrelmail, but I do have looked at nocc (nocc.sourceforge.net). Looks promissing. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Jun 23 13:35:20 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from active.ath.cx (ras4-p226.hfa.netvision.net.il [62.0.99.226]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6223037B41A for ; Sat, 23 Jun 2001 13:35:16 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from amir@boom.org.il) Received: by active.ath.cx (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 3E9356E7A6; Sat, 23 Jun 2001 23:35:39 +0300 (IDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by active.ath.cx (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0BDDB6A9D0 for ; Sat, 23 Jun 2001 23:35:38 +0300 (IDT) Date: Sat, 23 Jun 2001 23:35:38 +0300 (IDT) From: Amir Shalem X-X-Sender: To: Subject: objdump for aout binaries Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I'm using FreeBSD 4.3, I have noticed there is no /usr/libexec/aout/objdump, there is only /usr/libexec/elf/objdump why ? is it possible to objdump aout binaries ? thanks, Amir. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Jun 23 14:19:55 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from finland.ispro.net.tr (finland.ispro.net.tr [217.21.68.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 939E837B401 for ; Sat, 23 Jun 2001 14:19:50 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from yurtesen@ispro.net.tr) Received: from localhost (yurtesen@localhost) by finland.ispro.net.tr (8.11.4/8.11.2) with ESMTP id f5NIdUi50649 for ; Sat, 23 Jun 2001 21:39:30 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from yurtesen@ispro.net.tr) Date: Sat, 23 Jun 2001 21:39:30 +0300 (EEST) From: Evren Yurtesen To: Subject: Kerberos: No default realm defined for Kerberos! Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi It is funny but when I make a telnet connection to my Cisco router I started to get this message only from a machine I have upgraded recently to stable recently! Kerberos: No default realm defined for Kerberos! AND It only happens when I connect to Cisco routers and not when I telnet to my switch or to my smtp server. From all other machines everything is fine. Why is it so? +---------------------------------------------------------+ | Name : Evren Yurtesen - yurtesen@ispro.net.tr | | Job Title : Technical Consultant & System Administrator| | S-Mail : Talikkokatu 6B 26, Turku 20540, Finland | | Work Tel. : +90-232-2463992 | | Mobile Tel.: +358-40-5073940 | +---------------------------------------------------------+ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Jun 23 15: 4:16 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from vimfuego.saarinen.org (saarinen.org [203.79.82.14]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5B10237B406 for ; Sat, 23 Jun 2001 15:04:12 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from juha@saarinen.org) Received: from vimfuego.saarinen.org ([192.168.1.1]) by vimfuego.saarinen.org with esmtp (Exim 3.22 #1 (Red Hack)) id 15DvVB-0003Im-00; Sun, 24 Jun 2001 10:03:37 +1200 Date: Sun, 24 Jun 2001 10:03:37 +1200 (NZST) From: Juha Saarinen To: Francisco Reyes Cc: "Karsten W. Rohrbach" , Nick Sayer , Nuno Teixeira , "freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG" Subject: Re: /var/mail permissions: 0755 or 01777 ? In-Reply-To: <20010623134628.A511-100000@zoraida.reyes.somos.net> Message-ID: X-S: Always MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sat, 23 Jun 2001, Francisco Reyes wrote: > On Fri, 22 Jun 2001, Karsten W. Rohrbach wrote: > > over the past years i started to hate pine with all the security flaws > > and other operational problem that arise (mainly lack of support for > > maildir). > > I am in exactly the same boat. A real shame since Pine's interface is > fairly easy to use. Wait... Pine does support Maildirs. I'm using it here (Courier-IMAP and Exim 3.22). It even does SSL. > I just downloaded mutt a few days ago. I have not copied a pre-configured > muttrc, but just reading the docs, mutt looks intimidating. There's an automated muttrc configurator on the Web somewhere. It's not as bad as it seems, if you remember to keep things in logical parts. You can tell Mutt to use pico even... Mutt seems slower with IMAP than Pine though -- each time you expunge deleted messages, Mutt has to read in all the headers again. Pine seems to cache them. -- Regards, Juha PGP fingerprint: B7E1 CC52 5FCA 9756 B502 10C8 4CD8 B066 12F3 9544 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Jun 23 16:32:14 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from femail12.sdc1.sfba.home.com (femail12.sdc1.sfba.home.com [24.0.95.108]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 72DA237B405 for ; Sat, 23 Jun 2001 16:32:06 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from freebsd@home.com) Received: from blaze.dt1.sdca.home.com ([24.0.130.58]) by femail12.sdc1.sfba.home.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.20 201-229-121-120-20010223) with ESMTP id <20010623233205.ZMMC1636.femail12.sdc1.sfba.home.com@blaze.dt1.sdca.home.com> for ; Sat, 23 Jun 2001 16:32:05 -0700 Message-Id: <4.3.2.7.2.20010623150807.034a09a0@24.0.95.106> X-Sender: freebsd@24.0.95.106 X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 4.3.2 Date: Sat, 23 Jun 2001 16:32:05 -0700 To: "Stable" From: FreeBSD Admin Subject: RE: Staying *really stable* in FreeBSD In-Reply-To: <15155.56039.812973.488190@zircon.zircon.seattle.wa.us> References: <15155.29806.145760.832648@guru.mired.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I haven't posting anything in some time, so I'm making up for it now with this tome. 8-) It says nothing important and means nothing, so skip as you like. Several observations: Your definition of STABLE or really stable can very wildly from mine and the millions (hopefully) of other FreeBSD users. Since there are no "test metrics" to track, AFAIK, and nothing is published on the bugs found and fixed per week, what does STABLE really mean? How stable is stable? What makes STABLE stable? It boots up OK? Only crashes after 10 days instead of 10 minutes? Or maybe only n number of serious problems and y number of minor problems have been reported. Those would be things that we could point to as a measure of just how solid and stable the system is. But again, being just a volunteer organization, no one has the time. I see it as a matter of priorities and resource allocations. Just my worthless opinion. Don't think that the computer industry doesn't look at what goes on at the FreeBSD jamboree. FreeBSD could be the next Linux, (stop booing) in terms of gaining a much larger industry following since we all know it totally trashes Linux. But and it's a big BUT, the industry PERCEPTION of the FreeBSD community, it's response to security problems, it's ability to recognize problems with stability, and reliability, seems to matter more than what the reality is. FreeBSD could be the most well-organized, most stable, easy to patch/upgrade system on the planet, but no one would look twice at it, if the *perception* is of a disorganized, chaotic system with no procedures and "best practices" for producing and maintaining a fairly solid system. I'm not saying that it the way we look to the industry, but that the perception of FreeBSD and it's developers as a whole (including committers, porters, and conductors) can be critical to it's success. Sure, FreeBSD powers many major corporate sites, big and small. But that doesn't mean that they would want to sell their systems, running on FreeBSD, unless it was fairly easy to maintain, update for security and most of all have a perceived idea of stability. OK. So here I am, a poor lowly user. I'm far from an expert and just barely past newbie stage. I subscribe to the FREEBSD-STABLE list. But, that doesn't mean that I can make sense of all the arguments that go on here. Did the reporter of a problem just have a mis-configuration or was it a real problem. Timing seems to be the difficult problem here, and it a leap-frogging issue. Let's say that I actually have the time each weekend to wade through hundreds of messages to find out what's going on, and it turns out that as of that Wednesday, things looked pretty solid on the STABLE branch. But now, it's Saturday morning, and other problems have cropped up on Thursday and Friday. Now what? There's no "branch" or "label" that I can go back to, to get the most stable STABLE from Wednesday. STABLE seems to be constantly cycling between stable-sorta stable-not stable-maybe stable-hopefully stable. I use and maintain AIX and HP-UX systems. I very much love FreeBSD --- that is, except for this maintenance nightmare. Because it's so hard to pinpoint an exact microsecond in time when STABLE is really almost/nearly/ stable, I'm still running a 2.2.8 system. Since there's also no decent way to upgrade, I've been waiting for the time to built a new system and switch over. Except, that time never seems to come. I finally stopped my subscription to the CD. I have a stack of them from 2.2.5 all the way up to 3.4 (3.5?). Had there been an not-too-painful incremental upgrade process, I'd probably be more current now. But since I'm NOT an expert like so many people here, the warnings about problems with upgrading a system rather than building a new one, scare me. I have only one system that I depend on for my firewall/NATD. It's an old P200 system and I don't have the same parts (drive sizes, two NIC's, SCSI adapters, etc.) to build a test system. Nor do I really have the funds to do that. I started once before with the 3.x branch, building another system. Oops. Suddenly all the device and partition and slice names changed. I just didn't have a whole weekend to devote to this, so it got abandoned. I've already tried to install 4.3 with the ISO image. I've wasted 2-3 weekends already. I'm at the point where, although the system installation, booting from floppies doesn't seem to have a problem reading the old IDE CD-Rom that I have, it couldn't actually finish using it for the rest of the install. It shows up in the boot DMESG devices but it's not usable. OK, so I put in a SCSI drive. Again, another problem. I was hoping to boot from the ISO image. But the Tyan Tomcat I & 1542CP does something weird like making it the A: drive since it's El Torito and I couldn't get FreeBSD to boot. I have a BIOS option to boot from SCSI first, that if that's the CD-ROM, it get's weird. Fine. Made the boot/root floppies from the CD. Got into the install, CD seems to be recognized by the boot process, but later it just tells me I have no CD. At that point I just had to give up due to time constraints. I haven't yet explored every possible combination ( 256 according to my calculations ;) and I haven't wanted to bother the group with some dumb thing I could probably figure out if I had enough time. While a "turnkey" system would be nice, I'm certainly willing to check out a web page or something that points me to a current "patch list" that tells me how critical the patch is and lets me get specific security patches AND recent system updates, at a certain level/date. Right now, any CVSUP I do to STABLE seems like it's always on the bleeding edge and by it's very nature, will always lag behind the problem reports on the list. It's extraordinarily time consuming to hunt through hundreds of messages on the STABLE list to figure out the exact moment that I can CVSUP and have a minimum of problems. I guess this is mostly because it's all volunteers, BUT, I have to agree with one of the earlier posters in this thread, that maybe, just MAYBE, it's possible to have some coordination mechanism or procedures for the commiters, etc. to keep STABLE just that. Stable. I need a relatively painless way to keep my system current with vital security patches, and fix broken subsystems, without having a Ph.D. in FreeBSD, or needing to spend 20 hours of my weekend figuring out what to do. Yes, it's all in the handbook/FAQ, etc. but again, it's not all complete and not always up-to-date. If I understand CVSUP, it seems like it's OUTSIDE core FreeBSD and not an integral part of it. It's also easy to jump on people for the absolute letter of what they say and pick that apart instead of actually listening to the IDEAS that they are trying to get across. Many people "seem" to talk in absolutes when they really mean shades of gray. Don't jump all over someone who says "X always does Y", and start a "fight" about the "always" and totally miss the point the poster is trying to make. What if I had said "People talk in absolute ...". Why waste time trying to refute that when, I think, many people can see that as "Many/Most/A lot/Some people ...", etc. I think that there seems to be lots of wasted time "fighting" over semantics and not content. How can I patch my system from a STABLE branch that doesn't have specific "builds" that I can choose from? My druthers would be to stay back a few weeks and then pick up something that's had the problems know up to that time, worked out. Sort of like doing a bi-weekly code freeze and new build. But I think that means propagating the fixes to the fixes back to each build along with other problems. There must be a way something like this could be done to increase the stability and reliability of the product. What about having just a few STABLE snapshots that have been found to be relatively OK. Maybe some generic label like STABLE-2 & STABLE -4. One would be at the most stable level of 2 weeks ago and one could be 4 weeks ago, except minus the latest security patches. I'm sure everyone will jump on me and tell me why it can't be done and why it's always been done this way. But those kinds of attacks to encourage people to think "outside of the box". Maybe some of the ideas presented here actually do have some kernel of usability. But it's never possible to see it if it's always going to be shouted done. As an outsider, it seems like a lot of people are very heavily invested in the traditions and doing things a certain way. Maybe that's why FreeBSD doesn't seem like a good, solid stable bet for Corporate America. We all know just how much better FreeBSD is than Linux. And yet, it's now the little darling of Corporate America? Wait until they find out just how dirty it's diapers are. Without making it insanely difficult for hundreds of wonderful volunteers, shirley (8->) there must be some way to rethink the reliability and serviceability of the product. You can have all the gee-whiz-bang features and performance, but without some assurance of stability, reliability AND serviceability (i.e. fairly straight forward update/patch mechanisms), FreeBSD will never be able to rule the world. Has FreeBSD become so adamant in it's open-source, anti-commercial positions that it completely eschews all industry "best practices" for delivering and maintaining a first class product? It's got HUGE potential to be THE NUMBER ONE open-source UNIX for the rest of us. But not if you have hundreds of egos clashing with each other. I now return you to your regularly scheduled list feed. Enjoy, Mark At 04:55 PM 6/22/01, Joe Kelsey wrote: >Jason Watkins writes: > > >>> If the problem is instead that STABLE isn't STABLE enough and RELENG > > doesn't move fast enough - though evidence for the latter would also > > seem to be in short supply - then one of those two problems should be > > attacked, rather than trying to automate something that experience > > shows doesn't automate well. > > > > Thanks mike. I didn't mean to criticise anyone, I just mean that the root > > problem here is -stable isn't always stable. > >Sorry Jason. Adding another tag is *never* going to solve your >imaginary problem. I say imaginary because it really is not a problem. >The people who complain are always people who have an "automatic >midnight cvsup" or some other regular procedure that they run without >thinking first. As the handbook says, you *must* track the stable >mailing list before even thinking about running cvsup against the >appropriate tag. Adding a new tag will simply move the problem to those >people who still don't read the mailing list or even try to engage their >brains before running cvsup. > >This is an organization of *volunteers*. It is up to each and every >individual who wants to run FreeBSD to understand the consequences of >their actions before starting. I would personally recommend that >most people stay away from FreeBSD. It is definitely *not* a turnkey >system. Anyone who has an automatic cvsup and rebuild overnight is just >asking for trouble. > > > Although adding another tag would provide another buffer layer, I > > personally feel it's missing the point. Somewhere, someone has to > > approve moving things from -current to -stable, and figuring out how > > to better equip those people is what I think would bring about the > > best situation. > >Have you ever looked into the committers list? It is simply not >possible for there to be any central control over checkins as you >describe. The number of projects and people is simply overwhelming. > >The way to better equip people is to force them to read the handbook. >The way to force them to read the handbook is for them to get surprised >by their unthinking actions. FreeBSD is not for tyros. > > > I definately think life is easyer when you rebuild the system every > > month or 2 on a reasonable schedual instead of letting changes > > accumulate until it becomes a day long affair. > >I personally think it does not matter how often you cvsup and rebuild. >Sometimes, I go for months, sometimes I do it daily. It all depends. >If you have any thoughts of running cvsup at all, you need to have a >fast connection. It is definitely not for dialup users. Maybe that >should go in the handbook--only do it if you have DSL or cable modem or >better. > >My basic point is that it is not possible to "schedule" the activity in >advance due to the changing nature of the source tree. You have to >constantly monitor the mailing list and make your own decision based on >mailing list traffic. > >/Joe > >To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org >with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Jun 23 16:51:48 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from zircon.seattle.wa.us (sense-sea-CovadSub-0-228.oz.net [216.39.147.228]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id E221837B408 for ; Sat, 23 Jun 2001 16:51:44 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from joe@zircon.seattle.wa.us) Received: (qmail 28684 invoked by uid 1001); 23 Jun 2001 23:52:53 -0000 From: Joe Kelsey MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <15157.11221.593513.478892@zircon.zircon.seattle.wa.us> Date: Sat, 23 Jun 2001 16:52:53 -0700 To: "Stable" Subject: RE: Staying *really stable* in FreeBSD In-Reply-To: <4.3.2.7.2.20010623150807.034a09a0@24.0.95.106> References: <15155.29806.145760.832648@guru.mired.org> <4.3.2.7.2.20010623150807.034a09a0@24.0.95.106> X-Mailer: VM 6.90 under Emacs 20.7.1 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG FreeBSD Admin writes: > I haven't posting anything in some time, so I'm making up for it now with > this tome. 8-) It says nothing important and means nothing, so skip as you > like. > > [snip] You make some very good points. For you, like 99% of Linux users, you are better off never attempting to cvsup or to track stable. You should purchase the latest CD's and use the "upgrade" procedures to keep your system current. You have everything that you need right now. simply start with your 3.x CD's and upgrade your 2.x system to 3.x, then upgrade your 3.x system to 4.x. The upgrade path is relatively painless. All of your problems can be traced back to old hardware or inexperience with the latest thinking in BSD land. Because you have not upgraded your 2.x system, you are essentially stuck. Either get newer hardware to work with or go through the upgrade based on your subscription disks. The tracking of stable is not for everyone. Noone *needs* to track stable. The CD subscription and binary upgrade from CD should be sufficient for you and for most everyone who wants to stay relatively current with stable. You will miss the security upgrades unless there is a relatively easy way to incorporate those without recompiling from source. I think that most of the problems result from users trying to track stable due to fear of security holes. The CD release process seems to work well for people wishing to simply "upgrade" from one release to another without recompiling from source. The process of recompiling is fraught with danger unless you are familiar with make, and especially the peculiar make used by FreeBSD. What we need is an apt-get-like upgrade path for security fixes that solves the problem of people tracking one version of stable or another. Remove the necessity of recompiling from source and we remove almost all reasons for people to complain about the stableness of stable just because they ran into a minor problem of timing WRT cvsup and updates to the source tree. So Jordan. Is it possible to come up with a binary upgrade for security fixes? We certainly do not need new iso images for every security fix, but maybe a special package install for security fixes from the last RELEASE? /Joe To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Jun 23 16:57:24 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from bilver.wjv.com (dhcp-1-54.n01.orldfl01.us.ra.verio.net [157.238.210.54]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DC23537B401 for ; Sat, 23 Jun 2001 16:57:20 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from bill@bilver.wjv.com) Received: (from bill@localhost) by bilver.wjv.com (8.11.1/8.11.1) id f5NNvIZ94861 for stable@FreeBSD.ORG; Sat, 23 Jun 2001 19:57:18 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from bill) Date: Sat, 23 Jun 2001 19:57:17 -0400 From: Bill Vermillion To: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: stable-digest V5 #185 Message-ID: <20010623195717.B94536@wjv.com> Reply-To: bv@wjv.com References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: ; from owner-freebsd-stable-digest@FreeBSD.ORG on Sat, Jun 23, 2001 at 01:35:23PM -0700 Organization: W.J.Vermillion / Orlando - Winter Park Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > networking hell > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Date: Fri, 22 Jun 2001 14:53:25 -0400 > From: "Robin P. Blanchard" > Subject: networking hell > > still looking for a solution to this one. > > box with working 100Mb fdx nic gets 11+MB/s transfers. > great. > > remove nic and install gigabit interface to test. gets 2.67MB/s transfers. > bad. > > remove nic and reinstall original 100Mb nic. gets 2.67MB/s transfers. > bad > > install new 100Mb nic. > bad > > install different brand 100Mb nic. > bad. > > reinstall box > bad. > > what the hell is going on? i'm stuck permanently at 2.67MB/s no matter > what interface i put in there. forcing both the box and switch to 100Mb fdx > does not help, either. > > i really need some suggestions here. Did you repower/reset all/any swithes in the network which may have auto-negotiated down to 10MB after the first NIC change and stayed that way. It only takes one machine or NIC to screw up an entire network so you may have fixed it after the first re-install of NIC but the network was hosed at that time. -- Bill Vermillion - bv @ wjv . com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Jun 23 17: 1: 9 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from vimfuego.saarinen.org (saarinen.org [203.79.82.14]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 14B5537B401 for ; Sat, 23 Jun 2001 17:01:06 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from juha@saarinen.org) Received: from [192.168.1.10] (helo=den2) by vimfuego.saarinen.org with esmtp (Exim 3.22 #1 (Red Hack)) id 15DxKo-0003Oe-00; Sun, 24 Jun 2001 12:01:02 +1200 From: "Juha Saarinen" To: "'Joe Kelsey'" , "'Stable'" Subject: RE: Staying *really stable* in FreeBSD Date: Sun, 24 Jun 2001 12:00:59 +1200 Message-ID: <00cf01c0fc40$c0348db0$0a01a8c0@den2> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.2627 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 In-Reply-To: <15157.11221.593513.478892@zircon.zircon.seattle.wa.us> Importance: Normal Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG :: The tracking of stable is not for everyone. Noone *needs* to track :: stable. Well, that isn't what the Handbook says: "19.2.2.2. Who needs FreeBSD-STABLE? If you are a commercial user or someone who puts maximum stability of their FreeBSD system before all other concerns, you should consider tracking FreeBSD-STABLE. This is especially true if you have installed the most recent release (4.3-RELEASE at the time of this writing) since the FreeBSD-STABLE branch is effectively a bug-fix stream relative to the previous release." Reading that para (plus the ones before that), effectively tells you that -STABLE is what you should use for err.... maximum stability. You get the bugfixes and security fixes that aren't in -RELEASE. :: current with stable. You will miss the security upgrades :: unless there :: is a relatively easy way to incorporate those without :: recompiling from :: source. So... you need to track -STABLE, right? :: the peculiar make used by FreeBSD. What we need is an apt-get-like :: upgrade path for security fixes that solves the problem of people :: tracking one version of stable or another. Remove the necessity of :: recompiling from source and we remove almost all reasons for :: people to :: complain about the stableness of stable just because they ran into a :: minor problem of timing WRT cvsup and updates to the source tree. Now this is I agree with. Binary patches, please. -- Juha To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Jun 23 17:45:29 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mail.gmx.net (pop.gmx.net [194.221.183.20]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id B4C8037B401 for ; Sat, 23 Jun 2001 17:45:24 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from michaelnottebrock@gmx.net) Received: (qmail 24735 invoked by uid 0); 24 Jun 2001 00:45:23 -0000 Received: from pd4b9eed7.dip.t-dialin.net (HELO kiste) (212.185.238.215) by mail.gmx.net (mail01) with SMTP; 24 Jun 2001 00:45:23 -0000 Message-ID: <001201c0fc46$f553e440$0408a8c0@kiste> From: "Michael Nottebrock" To: "Joe Kelsey" , "Stable" References: <15155.29806.145760.832648@guru.mired.org><4.3.2.7.2.20010623150807.034a09a0@24.0.95.106> <15157.11221.593513.478892@zircon.zircon.seattle.wa.us> Subject: Re: Staying *really stable* in FreeBSD Date: Sun, 24 Jun 2001 02:45:24 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG ----- Original Message ----- From: "Joe Kelsey" To: "Stable" Sent: Sunday, June 24, 2001 1:52 AM Subject: RE: Staying *really stable* in FreeBSD > You make some very good points. For you, like 99% of Linux users, you > are better off never attempting to cvsup or to track stable. > [...] I just like to say that my experience with tracking stable is quite positive. I installed FreeBSD 4.2-Release with the boot floppies and a cdrom made from the ISO-image on an Intel 430-HX based PC with an oldish 2x cdrom drive and just 8 megs of ram (nowadays 24 megs of ram, running sendmail, uw-imap, samba, & dante, the latter three all compiled from the ports collection). I made my first cvsup when 4.2 was just in the process of being frozen to 4.3-Release, so I got 4.3-RC, which ran quite happily until yesterday, when i cvsup'd again to get myself a 4.3-STABLE without (known) security issues and to fix a problem 4.3-RC had with smbfs (which caused kernel panics). Apart from having to ask on this list where one kernel option went (and getting an answer within 10 minutes(!)), and having had to upgrade openssh from 2.3.0 to 2.9 from the (cvsup'd) ports collection (because X11-Forwarding does not seem to work with newer openssh clients like the 2.9pl1 in Linux Mandrake) doing a Release-2-Stable & and a Stable-2-Stable upgrade from source has been a breeze, thanks to the guidance of /usr/src/UPDATING and the FreeBSD Handbook (and the FAQ for explaining kern_securelevel and it's impact on file flags). All this updating from source at least never left me without a root filesystem when booting a new kernel (as did Linux Mandrake 7.2 after I got myself a binary kernel upgrade from their click'n'go updating utility, because they forgot to enable reiserfs support in that new kernel). IMHO, the FreeBSD stable sourcetree and also the ports & packages collection are in such a good shape that they don't need to fear any comparison with rpm or deb based Linux distributions. Hey, even Windows NT & 2000 boxen have been reported to break after installing a Service Pack, after all. > [...] > So Jordan. Is it possible to come up with a binary upgrade for security > fixes? We certainly do not need new iso images for every security fix, > but maybe a special package install for security fixes from the last > RELEASE? Almost there already. Take a look at the last SA (SA-01:40.fts), it features an (experimental) binary security fix, which comes in the form of a package. Greetings, Michael Nottebrock To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Jun 23 17:47:38 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from vimfuego.saarinen.org (saarinen.org [203.79.82.14]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2C7B437B401 for ; Sat, 23 Jun 2001 17:47:36 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from juha@saarinen.org) Received: from vimfuego.saarinen.org ([192.168.1.1]) by vimfuego.saarinen.org with esmtp (Exim 3.22 #1 (Red Hack)) id 15Dy3r-0003Pp-00 for ; Sun, 24 Jun 2001 12:47:35 +1200 Date: Sun, 24 Jun 2001 12:47:35 +1200 (NZST) From: Juha Saarinen To: Subject: Checksum mismatch -- will transfer entire file Message-ID: X-S: Always MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I've been getting the below error messages on a bunch of 4.3-STABLE boxes recently: src/contrib/libpam/libpam/pam_session.c: Cannot get edited text: "d" edit command specifies line past end of base delta -- will transfer entire file Edit src/contrib/libpam/libpam/pam_start.c Add delta 1.1.1.1.6.1 2001.06.07.09.07.33 markm Add delta 1.1.1.1.6.2 2001.06.11.15.28.12 markm src/contrib/libpam/libpam/pam_start.c: Checksum mismatch -- will transfer entire file Edit src/contrib/libpam/libpam/pam_static.c Add delta 1.2.6.1 2001.06.07.09.07.33 markm Add delta 1.2.6.2 2001.06.11.15.28.12 markm src/contrib/libpam/libpam/pam_static.c: Checksum mismatch -- will transfer entire file Edit src/contrib/libpam/libpam/pam_strerror.c Add delta 1.1.1.1.6.1 2001.06.07.09.07.33 markm Add delta 1.1.1.1.6.2 2001.06.11.15.28.12 markm src/contrib/libpam/libpam/pam_strerror.c: Checksum mismatch -- will transfer entire file -- repeated many times for the PAM stuff. Does it matter, and is there a fix for it? -- Regards, Juha PGP fingerprint: B7E1 CC52 5FCA 9756 B502 10C8 4CD8 B066 12F3 9544 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Jun 23 18:51:55 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from zircon.seattle.wa.us (sense-sea-CovadSub-0-228.oz.net [216.39.147.228]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 5465737B401 for ; Sat, 23 Jun 2001 18:51:52 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from joe@zircon.seattle.wa.us) Received: (qmail 28938 invoked by uid 1001); 24 Jun 2001 01:53:00 -0000 From: Joe Kelsey MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <15157.18428.497356.447656@zircon.zircon.seattle.wa.us> Date: Sat, 23 Jun 2001 18:53:00 -0700 To: "Stable" Subject: Re: Staying *really stable* in FreeBSD In-Reply-To: <001201c0fc46$f553e440$0408a8c0@kiste> References: <15155.29806.145760.832648@guru.mired.org> <4.3.2.7.2.20010623150807.034a09a0@24.0.95.106> <15157.11221.593513.478892@zircon.zircon.seattle.wa.us> <001201c0fc46$f553e440$0408a8c0@kiste> X-Mailer: VM 6.90 under Emacs 20.7.1 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Michael Nottebrock writes: > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Joe Kelsey" > To: "Stable" > Sent: Sunday, June 24, 2001 1:52 AM > Subject: RE: Staying *really stable* in FreeBSD > > > > You make some very good points. For you, like 99% of Linux users, you > > are better off never attempting to cvsup or to track stable. > > [...] > > I just like to say that my experience with tracking stable is quite > positive. I installed FreeBSD 4.2-Release with the boot floppies and a > cdrom made from the ISO-image on an Intel 430-HX based PC with an oldish > 2x cdrom drive and just 8 megs of ram (nowadays 24 megs of ram, running > sendmail, uw-imap, samba, & dante, the latter three all compiled from the > ports collection). I made my first cvsup when 4.2 was just in the process > of being frozen to 4.3-Release, so I got 4.3-RC, which ran quite happily > until yesterday, when i cvsup'd again to get myself a 4.3-STABLE > without > [snip] I personally have no problem tracking either current or stable. The first time I installed FreeBSd, I accidentally cvsup'd to current, but once I realized my mistake, I basically did not mind. I can keep up with the problems listed on the mailing list and have done quite a bit of source-level work on various flavors of UNIX, so it was no big deal. If someone has a good grasp of make and debugging, recompiling from source is no big deal. > Almost there already. Take a look at the last SA (SA-01:40.fts), it > features an (experimental) binary security fix, which comes in the form of > a package. I think we need to change the handbook to indicate the pitfalls inherent in attempting to track stable or current via cvsup or other source updating. Even tracking RELEASE_X_Y is problematic since it involves recompiling from source, which is, of course the only way to customize your kernel. Perhaps GENERIC needs to be changed to use kld so that everyone gets into the habit of using modules instead of creating a custom config file and recompiling the kernel. With the anectdotal evidence of the vast number of people who actually run GENERIC kernels, perhaps this is another way to allow relatively easier customization without major source recompiles. I really like being able to recompile from source, but it is definitely not for everyone. In order to get to a wider user base, we need more and better binary distributions and updates, especially binary security updates. Also, if we discourage new users from using the source recompile route, we may cut down on the number of messages complaining of getting -RC or -BETA when they wanted -STABLE! /Joe To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Jun 23 20:53:31 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from guru.mired.org (okc-27-141-144.mmcable.com [24.27.141.144]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id B542C37B401 for ; Sat, 23 Jun 2001 20:53:26 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mwm@mired.org) Received: (qmail 67877 invoked by uid 100); 24 Jun 2001 03:53:26 -0000 From: Mike Meyer MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <15157.25654.158066.311481@guru.mired.org> Date: Sat, 23 Jun 2001 22:53:26 -0500 To: FreeBSD Admin Cc: "Stable" Subject: RE: Staying *really stable* in FreeBSD In-Reply-To: <4.3.2.7.2.20010623150807.034a09a0@24.0.95.106> References: <15155.29806.145760.832648@guru.mired.org> <4.3.2.7.2.20010623150807.034a09a0@24.0.95.106> X-Mailer: VM 6.90 under 21.1 (patch 14) "Cuyahoga Valley" XEmacs Lucid X-face: "5Mnwy%?j>IIV\)A=):rjWL~NB2aH[}Yq8Z=u~vJ`"(,&SiLvbbz2W`;h9L,Yg`+vb1>RG% *h+%X^n0EZd>TM8_IB;a8F?(Fb"lw'IgCoyM.[Lg#r\ Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG FreeBSD Admin types: > I haven't posting anything in some time, so I'm making up for it now with > this tome. 8-) It says nothing important and means nothing, so skip as you > like. You do have some very good points, and some of them are being addressed already. > Don't think that the computer industry doesn't look at what goes on at the > FreeBSD jamboree. FreeBSD could be the next Linux, (stop booing) in terms > of gaining a much larger industry following since we all know it totally > trashes Linux. But and it's a big BUT, the industry PERCEPTION of the > FreeBSD community, it's response to security problems, it's ability to > recognize problems with stability, and reliability, seems to matter more > than what the reality is. This is all very true, but you have to consider what the goal of the project - or rather, the people working on it - is. While I don't speak for them, as far as I'm concerned getting lots of people to use FreeBSD is less important than continuing to provide a quality computing platform. One of the advantages of open source is that the developers can ignore the popularity contest of the market, and concentrate on quality. Not that I wouldn't like FreeBSD to be the most popular platform around, but if it has to become Windows - or even Linux - to do so, it clearly isn't worth it. I've seen enough tools go sour in pursuit of market share that I'd rather not see a single change that sacrifices quality for market share. > I use and maintain AIX and HP-UX systems. I very much love FreeBSD --- that > is, except for this maintenance nightmare. Because it's so hard to pinpoint > an exact microsecond in time when STABLE is really almost/nearly/ stable, > I'm still running a 2.2.8 system. Since there's also no decent way to > upgrade, I've been waiting for the time to built a new system and switch > over. Except, that time never seems to come. I finally stopped my > subscription to the CD. I have a stack of them from 2.2.5 all the way up to > 3.4 (3.5?). Note that the section heading of the handbook is "The Cutting Edge". I don't track current on anything in any kind of production, and I don't track stable on anything even remotely critical. I've maintained AIX systems, but SunOS, Solaris and Ultrix are what I normally deal with. The process of upgrading those systems is no easier than ugprading a FreeBSD system that's through the subscriptions. FreeBSD doesn't have anything like the binary patches available for those systems, and I've complained about that lack myself. Then again, none of them have anything like tracking stable - much less current - and I miss that when dealing with those systems. > I started once before with the 3.x branch, building another system. Oops. > Suddenly all the device and partition and slice names changed. I just > didn't have a whole weekend to devote to this, so it got abandoned. There's a reason for such things. If you really want, I can explain it. I will note that Solaris does - well, once did, as they fixed it - worse. It renumbered the disk drives after an upgrade, which left one system trying to mount a raw Ingres partition as /usr. > I need a relatively painless way to keep my system current with vital > security patches, and fix broken subsystems, without having a Ph.D. in > FreeBSD, or needing to spend 20 hours of my weekend figuring out what to do. I agree, that would be really nice. I do it by tracking stable on a production machine that's not critical. I'm very careful about it - which means it takes time. Mission critical machines generally run softare off the CDs. I watch the security list, and when a bug shows up in software that they are running, I'll skip updating the production system tracking stable, and ugprade the effected machines from the source tree that machine has been running for at least a week. With 4.3, there's a new branch to track - RELENG_4_3 - that contains nothing but security fixes. I'm looking forward to giving it a try. There are apparently also binary patches built from RELENG_4_3, which I may well use instead. > How can I patch my system from a STABLE branch that doesn't have specific > "builds" that I can choose from? My druthers would be to stay back a few > weeks and then pick up something that's had the problems know up to that > time, worked out. Sort of like doing a bi-weekly code freeze and new build. > But I think that means propagating the fixes to the fixes back to each > build along with other problems. There must be a way something like this > could be done to increase the stability and reliability of the product. That's pretty much what RELENG_4_3 addresses. It doesn't make the job of upgrading from one RELEASE to another any easier; after all, you'll be upgrading from RELEASE X.Y + bug fixes - whether they are applied as binary patches or as a source build - to RELEASE X.(Y+1) in either case. > Without making it insanely difficult for hundreds of wonderful volunteers, > shirley (8->) there must be some way to rethink the reliability and > serviceability of the product. You can have all the gee-whiz-bang features > and performance, but without some assurance of stability, reliability AND > serviceability (i.e. fairly straight forward update/patch mechanisms), > FreeBSD will never be able to rule the world. Has FreeBSD become so adamant As noted, I'd rather have stability, reliability and serviceability than rule the world. In fact, I feel I get those now. It takes more work than using commercial software - but it's also better than the commercial software I'm familiar with. Granted, I'm not familiar with HP-UX and it's reputation suggests that it may provide the stability, reliability and servicability of FreeBSD without the work. But FreeBSD just grew new update/patch mechanisms. I would once again advocate seeing how well those work before trying to change things again. If they still need more work, I've got some ideas myself. But I'm going to wait and see how well the new features work before doing anything with those ideas. http://www.mired.org/home/mwm/ Independent WWW/Perforce/FreeBSD/Unix consultant, email for more information. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Jun 23 21:35: 7 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from femail13.sdc1.sfba.home.com (femail13.sdc1.sfba.home.com [24.0.95.140]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D13A437B409 for ; Sat, 23 Jun 2001 21:35:05 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from stephen@math.missouri.edu) Received: from math.missouri.edu ([24.12.197.197]) by femail13.sdc1.sfba.home.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.20 201-229-121-120-20010223) with ESMTP id <20010624043504.GUIJ26767.femail13.sdc1.sfba.home.com@math.missouri.edu> for ; Sat, 23 Jun 2001 21:35:04 -0700 Message-ID: <3B356DF8.936C5BEA@math.missouri.edu> Date: Sat, 23 Jun 2001 23:35:04 -0500 From: Stephen Montgomery-Smith X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.77 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.2.12 i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Printer problems Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I have a HP Deskjet 932C. I was having problems with printing out large douments - right in the middle of the print job the job would stop. lpq would complain that the printer was offline. The only fix I found was to reboot the computer. I fixed the problem by switching to using polling mode (using lptcontrol). Is this a known bug with the lpt drivers? -- Stephen Montgomery-Smith stephen@math.missouri.edu http://www.math.missouri.edu/~stephen To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Jun 23 21:53: 4 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from smtp02.mrf.mail.rcn.net (smtp02.mrf.mail.rcn.net [207.172.4.61]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6BDB637B405 for ; Sat, 23 Jun 2001 21:53:01 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from momerath@softhome.net) Received: from 207-172-73-45.s45.tnt1.fdk.md.dialup.rcn.com ([207.172.73.45] helo=softhome.net) by smtp02.mrf.mail.rcn.net with esmtp (Exim 3.16 #6) id 15E1tK-00054D-00 for stable@FreeBSD.ORG; Sun, 24 Jun 2001 00:52:59 -0400 Received: (from momerath@localhost) by softhome.net (8.11.3/8.11.2) id f5O5uDt23356 for stable@FreeBSD.ORG; Sun, 24 Jun 2001 01:56:13 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from momerath) Date: Sun, 24 Jun 2001 00:54:56 -0500 From: mome-rath To: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Staying *really stable* in FreeBSD Message-ID: <20010624005456.A23293@rcn.com> References: <15155.29806.145760.832648@guru.mired.org><4.3.2.7.2.20010623150807.034a09a0@24.0.95.106> <15157.11221.593513.478892@zircon.zircon.seattle.wa.us> <001201c0fc46$f553e440$0408a8c0@kiste> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2i In-Reply-To: <001201c0fc46$f553e440$0408a8c0@kiste>; from michaelnottebrock@gmx.net on Sun, Jun 24, 2001 at 02:45:24AM +0200 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sun, Jun 24, 2001 at 02:45:24AM +0200, Michael Nottebrock wrote: > > You make some very good points. For you, like 99% of Linux users, you > > are better off never attempting to cvsup or to track stable. > > [...] > > I just like to say that my experience with tracking stable is quite > positive. I installed FreeBSD 4.2-Release with the boot floppies and a > openssh clients like the 2.9pl1 in Linux Mandrake) doing a > Release-2-Stable & and a Stable-2-Stable upgrade from source has been a > breeze, thanks to the guidance of /usr/src/UPDATING and the FreeBSD > Handbook (and the FAQ for explaining kern_securelevel and it's impact on > file flags). All this updating from source at least never left me without > a root filesystem when booting a new kernel (as did Linux Mandrake 7.2 I've never had a problem tracking and building stable resulting in an unbootable or generally unusable system. There was the one and only time I tried making installworld in the recommended way, via single-user init level and the system spontaneously rebooted. But, otherwise, no problems at all. Even for a period of time when I was cvsuping and making the world every day... which ended immediately after I got that month's electricity bill. Good god damn, I'm obscenely lucky, aren't I. Wait a minute... I SEE NO SUPER MODEL SEX KITTEN ON MY BED!@#$ It must be FreeBSD, not my luck. > kernel). IMHO, the FreeBSD stable sourcetree and also the ports & packages > collection are in such a good shape that they don't need to fear any > comparison with rpm or deb based Linux distributions. Hey, even Windows NT When a port doesn't work for me, I cvsup the ports tree and it's fixed or someone on stable has said they're fixing the problem presently and it's fine the next day. It's all a wonderful dream. Better than kittens or ice cream or puppies or rainbows. > & 2000 boxen have been reported to break after installing a Service Pack, > after all. Windows service packs are on the same level as medieval alchemy. 600 years from now, science will find a way to make windows secure and stable. Not only that, but cloning will be perfected and posterity won't be left with the horrible prospect of a world without Carrot Top and Rob Schneider. -- disclaimer: vodka. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Jun 23 22:12:44 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from web14704.mail.yahoo.com (web14704.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.224.121]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 673D237B409 for ; Sat, 23 Jun 2001 22:12:41 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from hackr_d@yahoo.com) Message-ID: <20010624051241.24915.qmail@web14704.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [63.67.120.228] by web14704.mail.yahoo.com; Sat, 23 Jun 2001 22:12:41 PDT Date: Sat, 23 Jun 2001 22:12:41 -0700 (PDT) From: Donn Miller Subject: Re: Printer problems To: Stephen Montgomery-Smith , freebsd-stable@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <3B356DF8.936C5BEA@math.missouri.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG --- Stephen Montgomery-Smith wrote: > I have a HP Deskjet 932C. I was having problems with printing out > large douments - right in the middle of the print job the job would > stop. lpq would complain that the printer was offline. The only > fix I found was to reboot the computer. What mode is your parallel port in? You might want to try experimenting with the various PPT modes, ECP, ECP/EPP, and normal. With my printer, I was having problems with the PPT mode set to ECP/EPP and EPP, but the problems went away when I set the mode to either ECP or normal. Actually, I don't think this is the case with your printer, but I thought I would give it a shot. I think it's a thing with the HP printers that they seem to not work very well unless you use polling. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Jun 23 23: 6:49 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from smtp.wanadoo.nl (larry.euronet.nl [194.134.35.138]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0742737B401 for ; Sat, 23 Jun 2001 23:06:46 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from steveo@eircom.net) Received: from ams-gw.sohara.org (p0809.vcu.wanadoo.nl [194.134.202.46]) by smtp.wanadoo.nl (8.11.3/8.11.3) with SMTP id f5O65Xj27195; Sun, 24 Jun 2001 08:05:33 +0200 (MEST) Date: Sun, 24 Jun 2001 08:05:31 +0200 From: "Steve O'Hara-Smith" To: "Juha Saarinen" Cc: joe@zircon.seattle.wa.us, stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Staying *really stable* in FreeBSD Message-Id: <20010624080531.1dc1bc4d.steveo@eircom.net> In-Reply-To: <00cf01c0fc40$c0348db0$0a01a8c0@den2> References: <15157.11221.593513.478892@zircon.zircon.seattle.wa.us> <00cf01c0fc40$c0348db0$0a01a8c0@den2> X-Mailer: Sylpheed version 0.4.99cvs3 (GTK+ 1.2.10; i386-unknown-freebsdelf4.3) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sun, 24 Jun 2001 12:00:59 +1200 "Juha Saarinen" wrote: JS> :: The tracking of stable is not for everyone. Noone *needs* to track JS> :: stable. JS> JS> Well, that isn't what the Handbook says: JS> JS> "19.2.2.2. Who needs FreeBSD-STABLE? JS> If you are a commercial user or someone who puts maximum stability of JS> their FreeBSD system before all other concerns, you should consider Emphasis on this word _________________________________^^^^^^^^ JS> Reading that para (plus the ones before that), effectively tells you JS> that -STABLE is what you should use for err.... maximum stability. You JS> get the bugfixes and security fixes that aren't in -RELEASE. Reading further will show that this comes with an *inevitable* price namely that you have to read -stable and be sensible about it. JS> So... you need to track -STABLE, right? JS> :: the peculiar make used by FreeBSD. What we need is an apt-get-like JS> :: upgrade path for security fixes that solves the problem of people The new security fix only branch should serve this need nicely. Now -stable is only needed for those who want/need to track bug fixes and new features. -- Directable Mirrors - A Better Way To Focus The Sun http://www.best.com/~sohara To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message