From owner-freebsd-hubs Sun Oct 6 17: 4:30 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-hubs@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6C98437B401 for ; Sun, 6 Oct 2002 17:04:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: from obsecurity.dyndns.org (adsl-64-165-226-88.dsl.lsan03.pacbell.net [64.165.226.88]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BAC8E43E75 for ; Sun, 6 Oct 2002 17:04:28 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kris@obsecurity.org) Received: by obsecurity.dyndns.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 2B70166C7B; Sun, 6 Oct 2002 17:04:28 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sun, 6 Oct 2002 17:04:27 -0700 From: Kris Kennaway To: hubs@FreeBSD.org Subject: 4.7 packages/distfiles uploading Message-ID: <20021007000427.GA916@xor.obsecurity.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="7JfCtLOvnd9MIVvH" Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.4i Sender: owner-freebsd-hubs@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org --7JfCtLOvnd9MIVvH Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline FYI, I am uploading the 4.7-R i386 packages and distfiles to ftp-master at the moment. I also had to move away the 5.0-dp1 packages because of lack of space on ftp-master. Kris --7JfCtLOvnd9MIVvH Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.7 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQE9oM+KWry0BWjoQKURAqCAAKDFkuhZgOvwPjKQC2i/fkK9snG4mgCg7jiY gfNVyfhsK0IJVv///XhZaLQ= =nmeT -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --7JfCtLOvnd9MIVvH-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hubs" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hubs Mon Oct 7 19:56:36 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-hubs@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C9F2237B401; Mon, 7 Oct 2002 19:56:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail.freebsdmall.com (ns1.freebsdmall.com [66.220.2.194]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 84AF543E3B; Mon, 7 Oct 2002 19:56:35 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from murray@freebsdmall.com) Received: by mail.freebsdmall.com (Postfix, from userid 2074) id 07D842E89D; Mon, 7 Oct 2002 19:56:35 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 7 Oct 2002 19:56:34 -0700 From: Murray Stokely To: hubs@FreeBSD.org Cc: re@FreeBSD.org Subject: Last minute RC3 (i386) with LDT patch Message-ID: <20021007195634.H67757@freebsdmall.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5.1i X-GPG-Key-ID: 1024D/0E451F7D X-GPG-Key-Fingerprint: E2CA 411D DD44 53FD BB4B 3CB5 B4D7 10A2 0E45 1F7D Sender: owner-freebsd-hubs@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I've removed two stale 5.0-CURRENT snapshots, the 4.7 RC1 FTP install directory, the 4.7-RC2 FTP install directory, and the 4.7 RC1 mini ISO. I have added a FTP install directory for 4.7-RC3, which includes a patch that may affect users running Wine. There is no corresponding ISO because by the time the ISOs are circulated and users have downloaded and burned them, we'll have the final release ready. I hope that 4.7-RC3 can circulate to some users in the next 12 hours or so. Please let me know once 4.7-RC3 i386 is available on your FTP site. I expect the final release will be available tomorrow. - Murray To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hubs" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hubs Mon Oct 7 20:14:52 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-hubs@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 38CEF37B401 for ; Mon, 7 Oct 2002 20:14:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gaultopia.org (yttrium.4ph.com [66.197.0.170]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 76E2743E8A for ; Mon, 7 Oct 2002 20:14:51 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from eng@gaultopia.org) Received: (qmail 5457 invoked by uid 1001); 8 Oct 2002 03:14:50 -0000 Date: Mon, 7 Oct 2002 23:14:50 -0400 From: Erik Gault To: Murray Stokely Cc: hubs@freebsd.org, re@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Last minute RC3 (i386) with LDT patch Message-ID: <20021008031450.GA93015@yttrium.gaultopia.org> References: <20021007195634.H67757@freebsdmall.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20021007195634.H67757@freebsdmall.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.1i Sender: owner-freebsd-hubs@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Mon, Oct 07, 2002 at 07:56:34PM -0700, Murray Stokely wrote: > so. Please let me know once 4.7-RC3 i386 is available on your FTP > site. I expect the final release will be available tomorrow. > > - Murray ftp2 has it. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hubs" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hubs Mon Oct 7 20:16: 8 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-hubs@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2948837B401; Mon, 7 Oct 2002 20:16:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail.freebsdmall.com (ns1.freebsdmall.com [66.220.2.194]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C8D4443E77; Mon, 7 Oct 2002 20:16:06 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from murray@freebsdmall.com) Received: by mail.freebsdmall.com (Postfix, from userid 2074) id 3D73B2E89C; Mon, 7 Oct 2002 20:16:06 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 7 Oct 2002 20:16:06 -0700 From: Murray Stokely To: Erik Gault Cc: Murray Stokely , hubs@freebsd.org, re@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Last minute RC3 (i386) with LDT patch Message-ID: <20021007201605.L67757@freebsdmall.com> References: <20021007195634.H67757@freebsdmall.com> <20021008031450.GA93015@yttrium.gaultopia.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5.1i In-Reply-To: <20021008031450.GA93015@yttrium.gaultopia.org>; from e@gaultopia.org on Mon, Oct 07, 2002 at 11:14:50PM -0400 X-GPG-Key-ID: 1024D/0E451F7D X-GPG-Key-Fingerprint: E2CA 411D DD44 53FD BB4B 3CB5 B4D7 10A2 0E45 1F7D Sender: owner-freebsd-hubs@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Wow that was quick, thanks! - Murray On Mon, Oct 07, 2002 at 11:14:50PM -0400, Erik Gault wrote: > On Mon, Oct 07, 2002 at 07:56:34PM -0700, Murray Stokely wrote: > > so. Please let me know once 4.7-RC3 i386 is available on your FTP > > site. I expect the final release will be available tomorrow. > > > > - Murray > > ftp2 has it. > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-hubs" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hubs" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hubs Tue Oct 8 0:21:14 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-hubs@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6901737B401; Tue, 8 Oct 2002 00:21:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mercury.is.co.za (mercury.is.co.za [196.4.160.222]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2920543E75; Tue, 8 Oct 2002 00:21:12 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from geoffr@is.co.za) Received: from hermwas.is.co.za (hermwas.is.co.za [196.23.0.8]) by mercury.is.co.za (Postfix) with ESMTP id A9A972024B; Tue, 8 Oct 2002 09:01:07 +0200 (SAST) Received: (from geoffr@localhost) by hermwas.is.co.za (8.9.3/8.9.3) id JAA18277; Tue, 8 Oct 2002 09:00:01 +0200 (SAT) Date: Tue, 8 Oct 2002 09:00:00 +0200 From: Geoff Rehmet To: Murray Stokely Cc: hubs@FreeBSD.org, re@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: Last minute RC3 (i386) with LDT patch Message-ID: <20021008090000.A16398@hermwas.is.co.za> Reply-To: Geoff Rehmet References: <20021007195634.H67757@freebsdmall.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <20021007195634.H67757@freebsdmall.com>; from murray@FreeBSD.org on Mon, Oct 07, 2002 at 07:56:34PM -0700 Sender: owner-freebsd-hubs@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org It seems that, on Mon, Oct 07, 2002 at 07:56:34PM -0700, in message <20021007195634.H67757@freebsdmall.com>, Murray Stokely wrote: > I've removed two stale 5.0-CURRENT snapshots, the 4.7 RC1 FTP install > directory, the 4.7-RC2 FTP install directory, and the 4.7 RC1 mini > ISO. > > I have added a FTP install directory for 4.7-RC3, which includes a > patch that may affect users running Wine. There is no corresponding > ISO because by the time the ISOs are circulated and users have > downloaded and burned them, we'll have the final release ready. I > hope that 4.7-RC3 can circulate to some users in the next 12 hours or > so. Please let me know once 4.7-RC3 i386 is available on your FTP > site. I expect the final release will be available tomorrow. I've got 4.7-RC3 on ftp2.za. G. -- Geoff Rehmet - New Business Development - Internet Solutions email: geoffr@is.co.za, geoff@is.co.za tel: +27-11-575-0426, fax/voicemail: +27-11-388-3205 mobile: +27-83-292-5800 www: http://www.is.co.za To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hubs" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hubs Tue Oct 8 0:39:25 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-hubs@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0D59C37B401; Tue, 8 Oct 2002 00:39:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mailout.informatik.tu-muenchen.de (mailout.informatik.tu-muenchen.de [131.159.0.5]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2475943E42; Tue, 8 Oct 2002 00:39:24 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from langd@informatik.tu-muenchen.de) Received: from mailrelay1.informatik.tu-muenchen.de (mailrelay1.informatik.tu-muenchen.de [131.159.254.5]) by mailout.informatik.tu-muenchen.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1D1096246; Tue, 8 Oct 2002 09:39:20 +0200 (MEST) Received: from atrbg11.informatik.tu-muenchen.de (atrbg11.informatik.tu-muenchen.de [131.159.42.129]) by mailrelay1.informatik.tu-muenchen.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 086477942; Tue, 8 Oct 2002 09:39:20 +0200 (MEST) Received: by atrbg11.informatik.tu-muenchen.de (Postfix, from userid 20455) id BEA2F1366C; Tue, 8 Oct 2002 09:39:19 +0200 (CEST) Date: Tue, 8 Oct 2002 09:39:19 +0200 From: Daniel Lang To: Murray Stokely Cc: hubs@FreeBSD.org, re@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: Last minute RC3 (i386) with LDT patch Message-ID: <20021008073919.GA15847@atrbg11.informatik.tu-muenchen.de> References: <20021007195634.H67757@freebsdmall.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20021007195634.H67757@freebsdmall.com> X-Geek: GCS/CC d-- s: a- C++$ UBS++++$ P+++$ L- E-(---) W+++(--) N++ o K w--- O? M? V? PS+(++) PE--(+) Y+ PGP+ t++ 5+++ X R+(-) tv+ b+ DI++ D++ G++ e+++ h---(-) r++>+++ y+ User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.1i Sender: owner-freebsd-hubs@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi Murray, Murray Stokely wrote on Mon, Oct 07, 2002 at 07:56:34PM -0700: [..] > so. Please let me know once 4.7-RC3 i386 is available on your FTP > site. I expect the final release will be available tomorrow. ftp4.de.freebsd.org has it. Best regards, Daniel -- IRCnet: Mr-Spock - Cool people don't move, they just hang around. - Daniel Lang * dl@leo.org * ++49 89 289 18532 * http://www.leo.org/~dl/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hubs" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hubs Tue Oct 8 0:58:52 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-hubs@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C938637B401; Tue, 8 Oct 2002 00:58:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: from piglet.dstc.edu.au (piglet.dstc.edu.au [130.102.176.1]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BC6BD43E81; Tue, 8 Oct 2002 00:58:50 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jason@dstc.edu.au) Received: from sunburn.dstc.edu.au (sunburn.dstc.edu.au [130.102.176.16]) by piglet.dstc.edu.au (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id g987wmPg021326; Tue, 8 Oct 2002 17:58:48 +1000 (EST) Date: Tue, 8 Oct 2002 17:58:48 +1000 (EST) From: jason andrade To: Daniel Lang Cc: Murray Stokely , , Subject: Re: Last minute RC3 (i386) with LDT patch In-Reply-To: <20021008073919.GA15847@atrbg11.informatik.tu-muenchen.de> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Spam-Checked: SPAMASSASSIN: This message probably not SPAM X-Spam-Score: -104.4, Required: 5 X-Virus-Scanned: Message: ok X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.9 (www dot roaringpenguin dot com slash mimedefang) Sender: owner-freebsd-hubs@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Tue, 8 Oct 2002, Daniel Lang wrote: > Hi Murray, > > Murray Stokely wrote on Mon, Oct 07, 2002 at 07:56:34PM -0700: > [..] > > so. Please let me know once 4.7-RC3 i386 is available on your FTP > > site. I expect the final release will be available tomorrow. > > ftp4.de.freebsd.org has it. ftp.au.freebsd.org has it. regards, -jason To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hubs" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hubs Tue Oct 8 1:10:47 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-hubs@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 177A237B401; Tue, 8 Oct 2002 01:10:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: from soleil.uvsq.fr (soleil.uvsq.fr [193.51.24.1]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 65B5543E86; Tue, 8 Oct 2002 01:10:44 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from Remy.Card@csi.uvsq.fr) Received: from diapason.csi.uvsq.fr (diapason.csi.uvsq.fr [193.51.27.1]) by soleil.uvsq.fr (8.12.3/jtpda-5.4) with ESMTP id g988Af14040187 ; Tue, 8 Oct 2002 10:10:41 +0200 (CEST) Received: from diapason.csi.uvsq.fr (diapason [127.0.0.1]) by diapason.csi.uvsq.fr (8.12.3/jtpda-5.4) with ESMTP id g988Af6F098415 ; Tue, 8 Oct 2002 10:10:41 +0200 (CEST) Received: (from card@localhost) by diapason.csi.uvsq.fr (8.12.3/8.12.3/Submit) id g988AfI3098414; Tue, 8 Oct 2002 10:10:41 +0200 (CEST) Date: Tue, 8 Oct 2002 10:10:41 +0200 From: Remy Card To: hubs@FreeBSD.ORG Cc: Murray Stokely , hubs@FreeBSD.ORG, re@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Last minute RC3 (i386) with LDT patch Message-ID: <20021008101041.A93634@diapason.csi.uvsq.fr> References: <20021007195634.H67757@freebsdmall.com> <20021008073919.GA15847@atrbg11.informatik.tu-muenchen.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <20021008073919.GA15847@atrbg11.informatik.tu-muenchen.de>; from dl@leo.org on Tue, Oct 08, 2002 at 09:39:19AM +0200 Sender: owner-freebsd-hubs@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi, On Tue, Oct 08, 2002 at 09:39:19AM +0200, Daniel Lang wrote: > Murray Stokely wrote on Mon, Oct 07, 2002 at 07:56:34PM -0700: > [..] > > so. Please let me know once 4.7-RC3 i386 is available on your FTP > > site. I expect the final release will be available tomorrow. > > ftp4.de.freebsd.org has it. Ditoo for ftp3.fr.freebsd.org. Cheers Rémy To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hubs" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hubs Tue Oct 8 4:22:15 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-hubs@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9017437B401; Tue, 8 Oct 2002 04:22:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail.tcoip.com.br (erato.tco.net.br [200.220.254.10]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4BB2243E86; Tue, 8 Oct 2002 04:22:12 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dcs@tcoip.com.br) Received: from tcoip.com.br ([10.0.2.6]) by mail.tcoip.com.br (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g98BM9J03624; Tue, 8 Oct 2002 08:22:09 -0300 Message-ID: <3DA2BFE0.8090801@tcoip.com.br> Date: Tue, 08 Oct 2002 08:22:08 -0300 From: "Daniel C. Sobral" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.1) Gecko/20020905 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Murray Stokely Cc: hubs@FreeBSD.ORG, re@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Last minute RC3 (i386) with LDT patch References: <20021007195634.H67757@freebsdmall.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-hubs@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Murray Stokely wrote: > I've removed two stale 5.0-CURRENT snapshots, the 4.7 RC1 FTP install > directory, the 4.7-RC2 FTP install directory, and the 4.7 RC1 mini > ISO. > > I have added a FTP install directory for 4.7-RC3, which includes a > patch that may affect users running Wine. There is no corresponding > ISO because by the time the ISOs are circulated and users have > downloaded and burned them, we'll have the final release ready. I > hope that 4.7-RC3 can circulate to some users in the next 12 hours or > so. Please let me know once 4.7-RC3 i386 is available on your FTP > site. I expect the final release will be available tomorrow. Obscure and distant ftp4.br.freebsd.org has it. -- Daniel C. Sobral (8-DCS) Gerencia de Operacoes Divisao de Comunicacao de Dados Coordenacao de Seguranca TCO Fones: 55-61-313-7654/Cel: 55-61-9618-0904 E-mail: Daniel.Capo@tco.net.br Daniel.Sobral@tcoip.com.br dcs@tcoip.com.br Outros: dcs@newsguy.com dcs@freebsd.org capo@notorious.bsdconspiracy.net What this country needs is a dime that will buy a good five-cent bagel. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hubs" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hubs Tue Oct 8 8:33: 5 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-hubs@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2F11F37B401; Tue, 8 Oct 2002 08:33:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail.freebsdmall.com (ns1.freebsdmall.com [66.220.2.194]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E02C943E6E; Tue, 8 Oct 2002 08:33:04 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from murray@freebsdmall.com) Received: by mail.freebsdmall.com (Postfix, from userid 2074) id 48C362E89C; Tue, 8 Oct 2002 08:33:04 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 8 Oct 2002 08:33:04 -0700 From: Murray Stokely To: hubs@FreeBSD.org Cc: re@FreeBSD.org Subject: HEADS UP : 4.7 discs 3 and 4 available (i386). Message-ID: <20021008083303.L67757@freebsdmall.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5.1i X-GPG-Key-ID: 1024D/0E451F7D X-GPG-Key-Fingerprint: E2CA 411D DD44 53FD BB4B 3CB5 B4D7 10A2 0E45 1F7D Sender: owner-freebsd-hubs@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org 4.7-disc[34].iso are now available. It will be at least another 12 hours before the other ISOs are ready, as they require much more testing. No need to email me when your site gets the bits. Thanks, - Murray To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hubs" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hubs Tue Oct 8 9:15: 0 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-hubs@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E3ACC37B407 for ; Tue, 8 Oct 2002 09:14:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: from south.nanolink.com (south.nanolink.com [217.75.134.10]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id DC40A43E7B for ; Tue, 8 Oct 2002 09:14:56 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from roam@ringlet.net) Received: (qmail 6153 invoked by uid 85); 8 Oct 2002 16:25:30 -0000 Received: from office.sbnd.net (HELO straylight.ringlet.net) (217.75.140.130) by south.nanolink.com with SMTP; 8 Oct 2002 16:25:28 -0000 Received: (qmail 57612 invoked by uid 1000); 8 Oct 2002 16:14:49 -0000 Date: Tue, 8 Oct 2002 19:14:49 +0300 From: Peter Pentchev To: Murray Stokely Cc: hubs@FreeBSD.org, re@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: HEADS UP : 4.7 discs 3 and 4 available (i386). Message-ID: <20021008161449.GJ376@straylight.oblivion.bg> Mail-Followup-To: Murray Stokely , hubs@FreeBSD.org, re@FreeBSD.org References: <20021008083303.L67757@freebsdmall.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="fCcDWlUEdh43YKr8" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20021008083303.L67757@freebsdmall.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.1i X-Virus-Scanned: by Nik's Monitoring Daemon (AMaViS perl-11d ) Sender: owner-freebsd-hubs@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org --fCcDWlUEdh43YKr8 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1251 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Tue, Oct 08, 2002 at 08:33:04AM -0700, Murray Stokely wrote: > 4.7-disc[34].iso are now available. It will be at least another 12 > hours before the other ISOs are ready, as they require much more > testing. >=20 > No need to email me when your site gets the bits. The other ISO's are the ones with the base system bits, right? Could you take a look at PR misc/43825, which seems to imply that the RC images contained object files left over in the source tree tarballs? G'luck, Peter --=20 Peter Pentchev roam@ringlet.net roam@FreeBSD.org PGP key: http://people.FreeBSD.org/~roam/roam.key.asc Key fingerprint FDBA FD79 C26F 3C51 C95E DF9E ED18 B68D 1619 4553 No language can express every thought unambiguously, least of all this one. --fCcDWlUEdh43YKr8 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.0 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQE9owR47Ri2jRYZRVMRAvd8AJoC0BEt+5eVMze05IXwlqnne1Zd1QCfWTlK SQw2y3ZMsOd3opYmKeiqQtE= =KDBd -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --fCcDWlUEdh43YKr8-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hubs" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hubs Tue Oct 8 9:29:41 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-hubs@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B23F237B401; Tue, 8 Oct 2002 09:29:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mailreg.NCTU.edu.tw (mailreg.NCTU.edu.tw [140.113.27.124]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 925FC43E88; Tue, 8 Oct 2002 09:29:27 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ijliao@terry.dorm11.nctu.edu.tw) Received: from terry.dorm11.nctu.edu.tw (Terry.Dorm11.NCTU.edu.tw [140.113.192.99]) by mailreg.NCTU.edu.tw (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5C883594646; Wed, 9 Oct 2002 00:29:07 +0800 (CST) Received: by terry.dorm11.nctu.edu.tw (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 8AC463D37; Wed, 9 Oct 2002 00:29:10 +0800 (CST) Date: Wed, 9 Oct 2002 00:29:10 +0800 From: Ying-Chieh Liao To: Murray Stokely Cc: hubs@FreeBSD.ORG, re@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Last minute RC3 (i386) with LDT patch Message-ID: <20021008162910.GA81920@terry.dragon2.net> References: <20021007195634.H67757@freebsdmall.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="C7zPtVaVf+AK4Oqc" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20021007195634.H67757@freebsdmall.com> X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 5.0-CURRENT i386 X-PGP-Key-Location: http://pgpkeys.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?op=get&search=0x11C02382 X-PGP-Key-Fingerprint: 4E98 55CC 2866 7A90 EFD7 9DA5 ACC6 0165 11C0 2382 User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.1i Sender: owner-freebsd-hubs@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org --C7zPtVaVf+AK4Oqc Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline ftp.tw.freebsd.org has it online -- char*p="char*p=%c%s%c;main(){printf(p,34,p,34);}";main(){printf(p,34,p,34);} -- Anonymous --C7zPtVaVf+AK4Oqc Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.0 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQE9owfWrMYBZRHAI4IRAlgSAJ9vvhbsOwEnqdT7q0tvO0KJ1ktUxgCgxRMt FY1eVAZOS4R+wLirCQmPHZo= =tY0q -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --C7zPtVaVf+AK4Oqc-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hubs" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hubs Tue Oct 8 16:23:37 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-hubs@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8AB4037B401 for ; Tue, 8 Oct 2002 16:23:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: from khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu (khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu [18.24.4.193]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EF8DC43E42 for ; Tue, 8 Oct 2002 16:23:35 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from wollman@khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu) Received: from khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu (8.12.3/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g98NNZgQ049180 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=OK) for ; Tue, 8 Oct 2002 19:23:35 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from wollman@khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu) Received: (from wollman@localhost) by khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu (8.12.3/8.12.5/Submit) id g98NNYuJ049177; Tue, 8 Oct 2002 19:23:34 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from wollman) Date: Tue, 8 Oct 2002 19:23:34 -0400 (EDT) From: Garrett Wollman Message-Id: <200210082323.g98NNYuJ049177@khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu> To: hubs@FreeBSD.org Subject: 4.7R is at ftp5 Sender: owner-freebsd-hubs@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Just got the rsync log.... -GAWollman To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hubs" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hubs Tue Oct 8 16:26: 5 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-hubs@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8812E37B401 for ; Tue, 8 Oct 2002 16:26:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gaultopia.org (yttrium.4ph.com [66.197.0.170]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2CCC843E42 for ; Tue, 8 Oct 2002 16:26:04 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from eng@gaultopia.org) Received: (qmail 88633 invoked by uid 1001); 8 Oct 2002 23:26:03 -0000 Date: Tue, 8 Oct 2002 19:26:03 -0400 From: Erik Gault To: hubs@freebsd.org Subject: 4.7R is at ftp2 Message-ID: <20021008232603.GD85822@yttrium.gaultopia.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.1i Sender: owner-freebsd-hubs@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org ready to go... To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hubs" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hubs Tue Oct 8 17:18:32 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-hubs@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E7C1A37B401 for ; Tue, 8 Oct 2002 17:18:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: from piglet.dstc.edu.au (piglet.dstc.edu.au [130.102.176.1]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EF5E743E3B for ; Tue, 8 Oct 2002 17:18:29 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jason@dstc.edu.au) Received: from sunburn.dstc.edu.au (sunburn.dstc.edu.au [130.102.176.16]) by piglet.dstc.edu.au (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id g990IQPg026017 for ; Wed, 9 Oct 2002 10:18:26 +1000 (EST) Date: Wed, 9 Oct 2002 10:18:26 +1000 (EST) From: jason andrade To: hubs@freebsd.org Subject: Re: 4.7R is at ftp2 - packages query In-Reply-To: <20021008232603.GD85822@yttrium.gaultopia.org> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Spam-Checked: SPAMASSASSIN: This message probably not SPAM X-Spam-Score: -104.4, Required: 5 X-Virus-Scanned: Message: ok X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.9 (www dot roaringpenguin dot com slash mimedefang) Sender: owner-freebsd-hubs@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Tue, 8 Oct 2002, Erik Gault wrote: > ready to go... 4.7-R is also at ftp.au.freebsd.org and ready to go. i do have a query - has the various issues with packages building been sorted out ? i understand there was some issues with .gz and .bz stuff. is the future direction confirmed that it will be a package tree for every release (at approx 4-6G? each time). is packages-4-stable deprecated or undergoing renovation or.. personally i am just trying to understand how packages will work in the future. is packages-4-stable a sort of "new and updated packages builds will be made available here in response to security issues or updates" while packages-4.7-release is a "packages here are frozen at the time of release and will never be updated in this tree" ? regards, -jason To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hubs" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hubs Tue Oct 8 17:56:13 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-hubs@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DF47237B401 for ; Tue, 8 Oct 2002 17:56:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: from piglet.dstc.edu.au (piglet.dstc.edu.au [130.102.176.1]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1B8ED43E65 for ; Tue, 8 Oct 2002 17:56:11 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jason@dstc.edu.au) Received: from sunburn.dstc.edu.au (sunburn.dstc.edu.au [130.102.176.16]) by piglet.dstc.edu.au (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id g990u8Pg029209; Wed, 9 Oct 2002 10:56:08 +1000 (EST) Date: Wed, 9 Oct 2002 10:56:08 +1000 (EST) From: jason andrade To: Kris Kennaway Cc: hubs@freebsd.org Subject: Re: 4.7R is at ftp2 - packages query In-Reply-To: <20021009002741.GA65772@xor.obsecurity.org> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Spam-Checked: SPAMASSASSIN: This message probably not SPAM X-Spam-Score: -104.4, Required: 5 X-Virus-Scanned: Message: ok X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.9 (www dot roaringpenguin dot com slash mimedefang) Sender: owner-freebsd-hubs@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Tue, 8 Oct 2002, Kris Kennaway wrote: > Yes, it was announced that we've switched back to .tgz packages for > 4.x until the remaining necessary code changes can be made. .tbz is > still a longer-term goal (and remains the default in 5.0) ok, i'll keep that in mind. > > is the future direction confirmed that it will be a package tree > > for every release (at approx 4-6G? each time). > > Yes, as it has always been. fair enough. just confirming this is the case since i need to shuffle a few things to keep full package trees around for multiple architectures. > -release packages have always been the snapshot made at time of > release, a subset of which are the packages shipped on CD. > packages-stable and packages-current packages are regularly updated > according to the changing contents of the ports collection, and they > are built for use with FreeBSD-STABLE and FreeBSD-CURRENT. hmm. ok. how often will packages-stable and packages-current (which currently seem to point at packages-4-stable and packages-5-current) be rebuilt - and does the whole tree have to be rebuilt each time, rather than individual packages ? i'm trying to minimize the amount of data we have to sync. i'm sure it also causes some issues on ftp-master if a large number of mirrors are having to resync the -stable and -current package trees at 4-6G each time.. thanks for the info Kris. apologies if it is stuff that has been said before. i'm obviously missing a few mails or not quite on all the right lists. regards, -jason To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hubs" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hubs Tue Oct 8 19:20: 3 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-hubs@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 83F3137B401 for ; Tue, 8 Oct 2002 19:20:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: from obsecurity.dyndns.org (adsl-64-165-226-88.dsl.lsan03.pacbell.net [64.165.226.88]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A09A143E4A for ; Tue, 8 Oct 2002 19:20:00 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kris@obsecurity.org) Received: by obsecurity.dyndns.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id E28B766C7B; Tue, 8 Oct 2002 19:19:59 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 8 Oct 2002 19:19:59 -0700 From: Kris Kennaway To: jason andrade Cc: Kris Kennaway , hubs@freebsd.org Subject: Re: 4.7R is at ftp2 - packages query Message-ID: <20021009021959.GA67417@xor.obsecurity.org> References: <20021009002741.GA65772@xor.obsecurity.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="yrj/dFKFPuw6o+aM" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.4i Sender: owner-freebsd-hubs@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org --yrj/dFKFPuw6o+aM Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Wed, Oct 09, 2002 at 10:56:08AM +1000, jason andrade wrote: > > -release packages have always been the snapshot made at time of > > release, a subset of which are the packages shipped on CD. > > packages-stable and packages-current packages are regularly updated > > according to the changing contents of the ports collection, and they > > are built for use with FreeBSD-STABLE and FreeBSD-CURRENT. >=20 > hmm. ok. how often will packages-stable and packages-current (which > currently seem to point at packages-4-stable and packages-5-current) > be rebuilt - and does the whole tree have to be rebuilt each time, > rather than individual packages ? i'm trying to minimize the amount > of data we have to sync. i'm sure it also causes some issues on > ftp-master if a large number of mirrors are having to resync the > -stable and -current package trees at 4-6G each time.. They're rebuilt more or less continually (i386 package builds take about 24 hours), but only uploaded every week or so (uploading entails completely replacing the package set, because it's not possible to do much better than that). The bottom line though is that it's up to you how often you choose to sync to that subtree. Kris --yrj/dFKFPuw6o+aM Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.7 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQE9o5JPWry0BWjoQKURArnHAKD7RQQbi6ZtrNDq0hpKTZfHHOIxYwCgiJS7 OwvFik2FyVrmVXqoeSbfu/o= =ytzn -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --yrj/dFKFPuw6o+aM-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hubs" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hubs Tue Oct 8 19:29:50 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-hubs@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3D14A37B401 for ; Tue, 8 Oct 2002 19:29:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: from coe.ufrj.br (roma.coe.ufrj.br [146.164.53.65]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 24FF243E65 for ; Tue, 8 Oct 2002 19:29:48 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jonny@jonny.eng.br) Received: from jonny.eng.br (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by coe.ufrj.br (Postfix) with ESMTP id B995BD92D6 for ; Tue, 8 Oct 2002 23:29:41 -0300 (BRT) Message-ID: <3DA394A0.40500@jonny.eng.br> Date: Tue, 08 Oct 2002 23:29:52 -0300 From: Joao Carlos Mendes Luis User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.0; en-US; rv:1.1) Gecko/20020826 X-Accept-Language: en,pt-BR MIME-Version: 1.0 To: hubs@freebsd.org Subject: 4.7-R Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-freebsd-hubs@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org ftp.br.freebsd.org: release files ok, packages coming Jonny -- João Carlos Mendes Luís - Networking Engineer - jonny@jonny.eng.br To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hubs" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hubs Tue Oct 8 23:54:38 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-hubs@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D256337B404 for ; Tue, 8 Oct 2002 23:54:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lurza.secnetix.de (lurza.secnetix.de [212.66.1.130]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B084C43E6E for ; Tue, 8 Oct 2002 23:54:36 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from olli@lurza.secnetix.de) Received: from lurza.secnetix.de (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by lurza.secnetix.de (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g996sVmC079172 for ; Wed, 9 Oct 2002 08:54:31 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from oliver.fromme@secnetix.de) Received: (from olli@localhost) by lurza.secnetix.de (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g996sU7P079170 for hubs@freebsd.org; Wed, 9 Oct 2002 08:54:30 +0200 (CEST) From: Oliver Fromme Message-Id: <200210090654.g996sU7P079170@lurza.secnetix.de> Subject: Re: 4.7R is at ftp2 - packages query To: hubs@freebsd.org Date: Wed, 9 Oct 2002 08:54:30 +0200 (CEST) In-Reply-To: <20021009021959.GA67417@xor.obsecurity.org> from "Kris Kennaway" at Oct 08, 2002 07:19:59 PM X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.5 PL3] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-freebsd-hubs@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Kris Kennaway wrote: > They're rebuilt more or less continually (i386 package builds take > about 24 hours), but only uploaded every week or so (uploading entails > completely replacing the package set, because it's not possible to do > much better than that). The bottom line though is that it's up to you > how often you choose to sync to that subtree. Personally, I have chosen not to mirror packages-*-stable at all, but simply make it a symlink to the latest release. Certainly not a perfect solution, but there are space issues having complete package sets for 4 architectures (soon to become 5 as the ppc port matures). Regards Oliver -- Oliver Fromme, secnetix GmbH & Co KG, Oettingenstr. 2, 80538 München Any opinions expressed in this message may be personal to the author and may not necessarily reflect the opinions of secnetix in any way. "All that we see or seem is just a dream within a dream" (E. A. Poe) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hubs" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hubs Wed Oct 9 1: 9:23 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-hubs@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6338337B401 for ; Wed, 9 Oct 2002 01:09:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: from flying.wok.dk (flying.wok.dk [193.88.12.98]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 62FF743E4A for ; Wed, 9 Oct 2002 01:09:21 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from morten@flying.wok.dk) Received: (from morten@localhost) by flying.wok.dk (8.11.6/8.11.6) id g9989Jd04009 for hubs@freebsd.org; Wed, 9 Oct 2002 10:09:19 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from morten) Date: Wed, 9 Oct 2002 10:09:19 +0200 From: Morten Skriver To: hubs@freebsd.org Subject: ftp.freebsd.org Message-ID: <20021009080919.GA4005@skriver.dk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.24i X-PGP-Fingerprint: 36A8 9420 94BA 39E6 EF62 A36F DB4D 47C9 DE24 9CDE X-PGP-Public-Key: http://flying.wok.dk/~morten/gpgkey.pub Sender: owner-freebsd-hubs@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi, ftp.freebsd.org is currently down because of bad hardware. I'm working on getting it up as fast as posible. Problerly within 30 min or so. /Morten -- Morten Skriver Email: morten@skriver.dk To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hubs" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hubs Wed Oct 9 1:54:26 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-hubs@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7562B37B401 for ; Wed, 9 Oct 2002 01:54:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: from flying.wok.dk (flying.wok.dk [193.88.12.98]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 73EEF43E42 for ; Wed, 9 Oct 2002 01:54:24 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from morten@flying.wok.dk) Received: (from morten@localhost) by flying.wok.dk (8.11.6/8.11.6) id g998sNA04263 for hubs@freebsd.org; Wed, 9 Oct 2002 10:54:23 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from morten) Date: Wed, 9 Oct 2002 10:54:23 +0200 From: Morten Skriver To: hubs@freebsd.org Subject: Re: ftp.freebsd.org Message-ID: <20021009085423.GB4005@skriver.dk> References: <20021009080919.GA4005@skriver.dk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20021009080919.GA4005@skriver.dk> User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.24i X-PGP-Fingerprint: 36A8 9420 94BA 39E6 EF62 A36F DB4D 47C9 DE24 9CDE X-PGP-Public-Key: http://flying.wok.dk/~morten/gpgkey.pub Sender: owner-freebsd-hubs@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Wed, Oct 09, 2002 at 10:09:19AM +0200, Morten Skriver wrote: > ftp.freebsd.org is currently down because of bad hardware. I'm working > on getting it up as fast as posible. Problerly within 30 min or so. It is up again, and I'll start at sync within 10 min. Sorry about the downtime. /Morten -- Morten Skriver Email: morten@skriver.dk To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hubs" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hubs Wed Oct 9 4:44:45 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-hubs@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0143D37B401 for ; Wed, 9 Oct 2002 04:44:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail.tcoip.com.br (erato.tco.net.br [200.220.254.10]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F3EF543E42 for ; Wed, 9 Oct 2002 04:44:41 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dcs@tcoip.com.br) Received: from tcoip.com.br ([10.0.2.6]) by mail.tcoip.com.br (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g99BiaJ15311 for ; Wed, 9 Oct 2002 08:44:36 -0300 Message-ID: <3DA416A3.6090003@tcoip.com.br> Date: Wed, 09 Oct 2002 08:44:35 -0300 From: "Daniel C. Sobral" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.1) Gecko/20020905 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: hubs@freebsd.org Subject: 4.7 ISOs Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-hubs@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org ftp4.br.freebsd.org has ISOs 2 through 4, i386. No Alpha ISOs, no ISO of the first disk. What I find strange is that ISOs 3 and 4 were announced, but 2 wasn't. And, on that note, I have 4.7-R and 4.7-RC3 for i386, and RC1 and 2, both ISO and distribution, for Alpha. -- Daniel C. Sobral (8-DCS) Gerencia de Operacoes Divisao de Comunicacao de Dados Coordenacao de Seguranca TCO Fones: 55-61-313-7654/Cel: 55-61-9618-0904 E-mail: Daniel.Capo@tco.net.br Daniel.Sobral@tcoip.com.br dcs@tcoip.com.br Outros: dcs@newsguy.com dcs@freebsd.org capo@notorious.bsdconspiracy.net The biggest difference between time and space is that you can't reuse time. -- Merrick Furst To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hubs" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hubs Wed Oct 9 5:29:42 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-hubs@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 574DC37B412 for ; Wed, 9 Oct 2002 05:29:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: from flying.wok.dk (flying.wok.dk [193.88.12.98]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 50F4D43E75 for ; Wed, 9 Oct 2002 05:29:40 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from morten@flying.wok.dk) Received: (from morten@localhost) by flying.wok.dk (8.11.6/8.11.6) id g99CTcf05422 for hubs@freebsd.org; Wed, 9 Oct 2002 14:29:38 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from morten) Date: Wed, 9 Oct 2002 14:29:38 +0200 From: Morten Skriver To: hubs@freebsd.org Subject: Re: HEADS UP : 4.7 discs 3 and 4 available (i386). Message-ID: <20021009122938.GC3314@skriver.dk> References: <20021008083303.L67757@freebsdmall.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20021008083303.L67757@freebsdmall.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.24i X-PGP-Fingerprint: 36A8 9420 94BA 39E6 EF62 A36F DB4D 47C9 DE24 9CDE X-PGP-Public-Key: http://flying.wok.dk/~morten/gpgkey.pub Sender: owner-freebsd-hubs@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Tue, Oct 08, 2002 at 08:33:04AM -0700, Murray Stokely wrote: > 4.7-disc[34].iso are now available. It will be at least another 12 > hours before the other ISOs are ready, as they require much more > testing. ftp.freebsd.org got the 2-4 iso's and the release directory. /Morten -- Morten Skriver Email: morten@skriver.dk To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hubs" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hubs Wed Oct 9 6: 9: 3 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-hubs@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BC23937B401 for ; Wed, 9 Oct 2002 06:09:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: from crocus.gamma.ru (crocus.gamma.ru [213.24.208.24]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 92CC443E4A for ; Wed, 9 Oct 2002 06:09:01 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ivt@crocus.gamma.ru) Received: (from ivt@localhost) by crocus.gamma.ru (8.11.6/8.11.6) id g99D8wA79179; Wed, 9 Oct 2002 17:08:58 +0400 (MSD) (envelope-from ivt@gamma.ru) Message-Id: <200210091308.g99D8wA79179@crocus.gamma.ru> Subject: Re: HEADS UP : 4.7 discs 3 and 4 available (i386). In-Reply-To: <20021009122938.GC3314@skriver.dk> from "Morten Skriver" at "Oct 9, 2 02:29:38 pm" To: morten@skriver.dk (Morten Skriver) Date: Wed, 9 Oct 2002 17:08:57 +0400 (MSD) Cc: hubs@FreeBSD.ORG From: "Igor Timkin" Organization: Gamma Ltd., Moscow, Russia X-Class: Fast X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL38 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-hubs@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Morten Skriver writes: > On Tue, Oct 08, 2002 at 08:33:04AM -0700, Murray Stokely wrote: > > > 4.7-disc[34].iso are now available. It will be at least another 12 > > hours before the other ISOs are ready, as they require much more > > testing. > > ftp.freebsd.org got the 2-4 iso's and the release directory. {ftp,ftp1,ftp2,ftp4}.ru.freebsd/org also. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hubs" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hubs Wed Oct 9 6:40: 2 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-hubs@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1314637B401 for ; Wed, 9 Oct 2002 06:40:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: from amun.isnic.is (amun.isnic.is [193.4.58.10]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4C5D043E3B for ; Wed, 9 Oct 2002 06:40:00 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from oli@amun.isnic.is) Received: from amun.isnic.is (oli@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by amun.isnic.is (8.12.3/8.12.3/isnic) with ESMTP id g99DdvIa061629 for ; Wed, 9 Oct 2002 13:39:57 GMT (envelope-from oli@amun.isnic.is) Received: (from oli@localhost) by amun.isnic.is (8.12.3/8.12.3/Submit) id g99DduDf061620 for hubs@FreeBSD.ORG; Wed, 9 Oct 2002 13:39:56 GMT (envelope-from oli) Date: Wed, 9 Oct 2002 13:39:56 +0000 From: Olafur Osvaldsson To: hubs@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: 4.7 Message-ID: <20021009133956.GA58256@isnic.is> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.28i Sender: owner-freebsd-hubs@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org ftp.is.* is up to date. /Oli -- Olafur Osvaldsson Systems Administrator Internet a Islandi hf. Tel: +354 525-5291 Email: oli@isnic.is To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hubs" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hubs Wed Oct 9 8:17: 5 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-hubs@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B729D37B401 for ; Wed, 9 Oct 2002 08:17:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail.freebsdmall.com (ns1.freebsdmall.com [66.220.2.194]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 61DD843E3B for ; Wed, 9 Oct 2002 08:17:04 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from murray@freebsdmall.com) Received: by mail.freebsdmall.com (Postfix, from userid 2074) id CC0BD2E89D; Wed, 9 Oct 2002 08:17:03 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 9 Oct 2002 08:17:03 -0700 From: Murray Stokely To: "Daniel C. Sobral" Cc: hubs@freebsd.org Subject: Re: 4.7 ISOs Message-ID: <20021009081703.T67757@freebsdmall.com> References: <3DA416A3.6090003@tcoip.com.br> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5.1i In-Reply-To: <3DA416A3.6090003@tcoip.com.br>; from dcs@tcoip.com.br on Wed, Oct 09, 2002 at 08:44:35AM -0300 X-GPG-Key-ID: 1024D/0E451F7D X-GPG-Key-Fingerprint: E2CA 411D DD44 53FD BB4B 3CB5 B4D7 10A2 0E45 1F7D Sender: owner-freebsd-hubs@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Wed, Oct 09, 2002 at 08:44:35AM -0300, Daniel C. Sobral wrote: > ftp4.br.freebsd.org has ISOs 2 through 4, i386. No Alpha ISOs, no ISO of > the first disk. What I find strange is that ISOs 3 and 4 were announced, > but 2 wasn't. Don't be surprised. ;) There are 4 full ISOs for each architecture, a mini ISO for each, an FTP install directory for each, a package directory for each, etc.. Each one is uploaded once it has been tested locally. I'm not going to send out 14 emails to announce when each subsequent component is available. I announced when the first bits were made available, and a few other progress reports until all the files are available. Tracking every change in a directory of the FTP site is exactly the function that some of the mirror packages were created for, so I won't try to duplicate that roll. ;) FYI, mdoc.local wasn't tagged properly and man pages were being displayed with "FreeBSD 4.6" footers. That has been corrected, but disc1 (and the alpha build) is delayed because of that. - Murray To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hubs" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hubs Wed Oct 9 12: 8:29 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-hubs@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E034537B401; Wed, 9 Oct 2002 12:08:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail.tcoip.com.br (erato.tco.net.br [200.220.254.10]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 42BC243E42; Wed, 9 Oct 2002 12:08:25 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dcs@tcoip.com.br) Received: from tcoip.com.br ([10.0.2.6]) by mail.tcoip.com.br (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g99J8MJ28494; Wed, 9 Oct 2002 16:08:22 -0300 Message-ID: <3DA47EA5.9040906@tcoip.com.br> Date: Wed, 09 Oct 2002 16:08:21 -0300 From: "Daniel C. Sobral" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.1) Gecko/20020905 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Murray Stokely Cc: hubs@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: 4.7 ISOs References: <3DA416A3.6090003@tcoip.com.br> <20021009081703.T67757@freebsdmall.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-hubs@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Murray Stokely wrote: > On Wed, Oct 09, 2002 at 08:44:35AM -0300, Daniel C. Sobral wrote: > >>ftp4.br.freebsd.org has ISOs 2 through 4, i386. No Alpha ISOs, no ISO of >>the first disk. What I find strange is that ISOs 3 and 4 were announced, >>but 2 wasn't. > > > Don't be surprised. ;) There are 4 full ISOs for each architecture, a > mini ISO for each, an FTP install directory for each, a package > directory for each, etc.. Each one is uploaded once it has been > tested locally. I'm not going to send out 14 emails to announce when > each subsequent component is available. I announced when the first > bits were made available, and a few other progress reports until all > the files are available. Tracking every change in a directory of the > FTP site is exactly the function that some of the mirror packages were > created for, so I won't try to duplicate that roll. ;) Well, what platforms will 4.7 be released for? Just i386 and alpha, or will there be any other? I've heard SPARC was doing pretty well. As for the announcements, the problem is available disk space and, possibly, rsync/cvsup rules. We don't need you telling us each time a byte is moved to the mirrored directories, but a previous day warning that in the next N days this, this and that will be made available, and a gross estimate of how big that is, helps a LOT of us. Me, I don't get caught by surprise because I do not mirror new directories by default. What can happen is my lagging behind when something comes out without announcement. -- Daniel C. Sobral (8-DCS) Gerencia de Operacoes Divisao de Comunicacao de Dados Coordenacao de Seguranca TCO Fones: 55-61-313-7654/Cel: 55-61-9618-0904 E-mail: Daniel.Capo@tco.net.br Daniel.Sobral@tcoip.com.br dcs@tcoip.com.br Outros: dcs@newsguy.com dcs@freebsd.org capo@notorious.bsdconspiracy.net No problem is so large it can't be fit in somewhere. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hubs" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hubs Wed Oct 9 12:27:51 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-hubs@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6E12037B401; Wed, 9 Oct 2002 12:27:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: from obsecurity.dyndns.org (adsl-64-165-226-88.dsl.lsan03.pacbell.net [64.165.226.88]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9303643E4A; Wed, 9 Oct 2002 12:27:49 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kris@obsecurity.org) Received: by obsecurity.dyndns.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id EF47F66E60; Wed, 9 Oct 2002 12:27:48 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 9 Oct 2002 12:27:47 -0700 From: Kris Kennaway To: "Daniel C. Sobral" Cc: Murray Stokely , hubs@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: 4.7 ISOs Message-ID: <20021009192747.GC84472@xor.obsecurity.org> References: <3DA416A3.6090003@tcoip.com.br> <20021009081703.T67757@freebsdmall.com> <3DA47EA5.9040906@tcoip.com.br> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="xo44VMWPx7vlQ2+2" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <3DA47EA5.9040906@tcoip.com.br> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4i Sender: owner-freebsd-hubs@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org --xo44VMWPx7vlQ2+2 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Wed, Oct 09, 2002 at 04:08:21PM -0300, Daniel C. Sobral wrote: > Well, what platforms will 4.7 be released for? Just i386 and alpha, or=20 > will there be any other? I've heard SPARC was doing pretty well. 4.x only supports i386 and alpha. 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Sincerely Puledi Mpezi ______________________________________________________ Check out all the latest outrageous email attachments on the Outrageous Email Chart! - http://viral.lycos.co.uk --=_NextPart_Caramail_0182181034193035_ID-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hubs" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hubs Wed Oct 9 15:37:19 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-hubs@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7BBBE37B401; Wed, 9 Oct 2002 15:37:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail.freebsdmall.com (ns1.freebsdmall.com [66.220.2.194]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 381B443E42; Wed, 9 Oct 2002 15:37:18 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from murray@freebsdmall.com) Received: by mail.freebsdmall.com (Postfix, from userid 2074) id A564C2E89D; Wed, 9 Oct 2002 15:37:17 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 9 Oct 2002 15:37:17 -0700 From: Murray Stokely To: hubs@freebsd.org Cc: re@FreeBSD.org Subject: All four ISOs now availabe! Message-ID: <20021009153717.A82102@freebsdmall.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5.1i X-GPG-Key-ID: 1024D/0E451F7D X-GPG-Key-Fingerprint: E2CA 411D DD44 53FD BB4B 3CB5 B4D7 10A2 0E45 1F7D Sender: owner-freebsd-hubs@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Sorry to keep everyone waiting. There was a problem with the first CD so it had to be remastered. All four discs are now available from ftp-master. Also, I had to update the files in the 'bin' and 'src' directories of the ftp install directory. A mini ISO will be available soon (15 minutes?), but the Alpha bits probably won't be available until tomorrow. Please email me (in private, no need to CC the list) once your site has the 4 ISO images and the updated 'bin' and 'src' dist directories. I will include some of the earliest FTP sites in the official release announcement. As usual, thanks for distributing FreeBSD! - Murray To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hubs" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hubs Wed Oct 9 17:36: 8 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-hubs@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B4BB337B401 for ; Wed, 9 Oct 2002 17:36:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: from piglet.dstc.edu.au (piglet.dstc.edu.au [130.102.176.1]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B182E43E42 for ; Wed, 9 Oct 2002 17:36:06 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jason@dstc.edu.au) Received: from sunburn.dstc.edu.au (sunburn.dstc.edu.au [130.102.176.16]) by piglet.dstc.edu.au (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id g9A0a1Pg006897 for ; Thu, 10 Oct 2002 10:36:01 +1000 (EST) Date: Thu, 10 Oct 2002 10:36:01 +1000 (EST) From: jason andrade To: hubs@freebsd.org Subject: FreeBSD 4.7-RELEASE synced in AU Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Spam-Checked: SPAMASSASSIN: This message probably not SPAM X-Spam-Score: -100, Required: 5 X-Virus-Scanned: Message: ok X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.9 (www dot roaringpenguin dot com slash mimedefang) Sender: owner-freebsd-hubs@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi, FreeBSD 4.7-RELEASE including the install tree, 5 iso images and packages tree is now fully synced at http://ftp.au.freebsd.org ftp://ftp.au.freebsd.org http://ftp2.au.freebsd.org ftp://ftp2.au.freebsd.org regards, -jason To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hubs" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hubs Thu Oct 10 7:18:24 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-hubs@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 35E9837B401; Thu, 10 Oct 2002 07:18:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail.freebsdmall.com (ns1.freebsdmall.com [66.220.2.194]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CFD5643EA3; Thu, 10 Oct 2002 07:18:22 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from murray@freebsdmall.com) Received: by mail.freebsdmall.com (Postfix, from userid 2074) id 800A32E89D; Thu, 10 Oct 2002 07:18:22 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 10 Oct 2002 07:18:22 -0700 From: Murray Stokely To: Murray Stokely , hubs@FreeBSD.org, re@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: HEADS UP : 4.7 discs 3 and 4 available (i386). Message-ID: <20021010071822.F82542@freebsdmall.com> References: <20021008083303.L67757@freebsdmall.com> <20021008161449.GJ376@straylight.oblivion.bg> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5.1i In-Reply-To: <20021008161449.GJ376@straylight.oblivion.bg>; from roam@ringlet.net on Tue, Oct 08, 2002 at 07:14:49PM +0300 X-GPG-Key-ID: 1024D/0E451F7D X-GPG-Key-Fingerprint: E2CA 411D DD44 53FD BB4B 3CB5 B4D7 10A2 0E45 1F7D Sender: owner-freebsd-hubs@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Tue, Oct 08, 2002 at 07:14:49PM +0300, Peter Pentchev wrote: > The other ISO's are the ones with the base system bits, right? > Could you take a look at PR misc/43825, which seems to imply > that the RC images contained object files left over in the source > tree tarballs? Hmm.. 4.7 still has these object files. Someone must have changed the Makefiles in some way such that the crunched sysinstall binary is not built in OBJDIR, or the srcdir is not properly cleaned before being packaged up for distribution. The object files aren't too big, and it's just the sysinstall ones. We'll definitely have to fix this soon. - Murray To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hubs" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hubs Thu Oct 10 7:26:52 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-hubs@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 69CC637B401; Thu, 10 Oct 2002 07:26:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mile.nevermind.kiev.ua (office.netstyle.com.ua [213.186.199.26]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B432743E8A; Thu, 10 Oct 2002 07:26:48 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from never@mile.nevermind.kiev.ua) Received: from mile.nevermind.kiev.ua (never@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mile.nevermind.kiev.ua (8.12.6/8.12.6) with ESMTP id g9AEQir5078747; Thu, 10 Oct 2002 17:26:45 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from never@mile.nevermind.kiev.ua) Received: (from never@localhost) by mile.nevermind.kiev.ua (8.12.6/8.12.6/Submit) id g9AEQisf078746; Thu, 10 Oct 2002 17:26:44 +0300 (EEST) Date: Thu, 10 Oct 2002 17:26:44 +0300 From: Alexandr Kovalenko To: Murray Stokely Cc: hubs@FreeBSD.ORG, re@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: HEADS UP : 4.7 discs 3 and 4 available (i386). Message-ID: <20021010142643.GA78403@nevermind.kiev.ua> References: <20021008083303.L67757@freebsdmall.com> <20021008161449.GJ376@straylight.oblivion.bg> <20021010071822.F82542@freebsdmall.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=koi8-r Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20021010071822.F82542@freebsdmall.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.1i Sender: owner-freebsd-hubs@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hello, Murray Stokely! On Thu, Oct 10, 2002 at 07:18:22AM -0700, you wrote: > > The other ISO's are the ones with the base system bits, right? > > Could you take a look at PR misc/43825, which seems to imply > > that the RC images contained object files left over in the source > > tree tarballs? > Hmm.. 4.7 still has these object files. Someone must have changed > the Makefiles in some way such that the crunched sysinstall binary is > not built in OBJDIR, or the srcdir is not properly cleaned before > being packaged up for distribution. The object files aren't too big, > and it's just the sysinstall ones. We'll definitely have to fix this > soon. There will be one more disc1 remastering? If yes, then when it is expected? -- NEVE-RIPE Ukrainian FreeBSD User Group http://uafug.org.ua/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hubs" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hubs Thu Oct 10 7:33: 6 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-hubs@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8767537B401; Thu, 10 Oct 2002 07:33:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail.freebsdmall.com (ns1.freebsdmall.com [66.220.2.194]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1140943EB1; Thu, 10 Oct 2002 07:33:05 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from murray@freebsdmall.com) Received: by mail.freebsdmall.com (Postfix, from userid 2074) id 13E592E89D; Thu, 10 Oct 2002 07:33:03 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 10 Oct 2002 07:33:02 -0700 From: Murray Stokely To: Alexandr Kovalenko Cc: Murray Stokely , hubs@FreeBSD.ORG, re@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: HEADS UP : 4.7 discs 3 and 4 available (i386). Message-ID: <20021010073302.G82542@freebsdmall.com> References: <20021008083303.L67757@freebsdmall.com> <20021008161449.GJ376@straylight.oblivion.bg> <20021010071822.F82542@freebsdmall.com> <20021010142643.GA78403@nevermind.kiev.ua> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5.1i In-Reply-To: <20021010142643.GA78403@nevermind.kiev.ua>; from never@nevermind.kiev.ua on Thu, Oct 10, 2002 at 05:26:44PM +0300 X-GPG-Key-ID: 1024D/0E451F7D X-GPG-Key-Fingerprint: E2CA 411D DD44 53FD BB4B 3CB5 B4D7 10A2 0E45 1F7D Sender: owner-freebsd-hubs@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Thu, Oct 10, 2002 at 05:26:44PM +0300, Alexandr Kovalenko wrote: > There will be one more disc1 remastering? If yes, then when it is > expected? No, this is a minor problem and doesn't warrant remastering the discs and making everyone re-download them just for a few object files. We can note this in the errata. - Murray To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hubs" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hubs Thu Oct 10 8:27:34 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-hubs@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0330A37B401; Thu, 10 Oct 2002 08:27:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail.freebsdmall.com (ns1.freebsdmall.com [66.220.2.194]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ADC5A43EA3; Thu, 10 Oct 2002 08:27:33 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from murray@freebsdmall.com) Received: by mail.freebsdmall.com (Postfix, from userid 2074) id DC6172E89D; Thu, 10 Oct 2002 08:27:32 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 10 Oct 2002 08:27:32 -0700 From: Murray Stokely To: hubs@FreeBSD.org Cc: re@FreeBSD.org Subject: 4.7 Download Statistics Message-ID: <20021010082732.G1982@freebsdmall.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5.1i X-GPG-Key-ID: 1024D/0E451F7D X-GPG-Key-Fingerprint: E2CA 411D DD44 53FD BB4B 3CB5 B4D7 10A2 0E45 1F7D Sender: owner-freebsd-hubs@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I'm very interested in getting download statistics about 4.7-RELEASE. In the old days with wcarchive.cdrom.com, it was very easy to track the increasing popularity of FreeBSD through downloads. This would be a lot more work now with so many mirrors spread around the world, but I think it is certainly worth while. Does anyone have any bright ideas about how best to collect and tabulate the FTP logs for 4.7 from tens of different servers and generate a unified download report? I don't have much time to actually help with this endeavor, but it "Sure would be nice", and it couldn't take more than a page of Perl and lots of coordination with the various site admins. - Murray To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hubs" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hubs Thu Oct 10 8:29:14 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-hubs@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6721F37B401 for ; Thu, 10 Oct 2002 08:29:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail.freebsdmall.com (ns1.freebsdmall.com [66.220.2.194]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 223F943E42 for ; Thu, 10 Oct 2002 08:29:14 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from murray@freebsdmall.com) Received: by mail.freebsdmall.com (Postfix, from userid 2074) id B3E2A2E89D; Thu, 10 Oct 2002 08:29:13 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 10 Oct 2002 08:29:13 -0700 From: Murray Stokely To: hubs@FreeBSD.org Subject: 4.7 alpha FTP and mini-ISO now available Message-ID: <20021010082913.H1982@freebsdmall.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5.1i X-GPG-Key-ID: 1024D/0E451F7D X-GPG-Key-Fingerprint: E2CA 411D DD44 53FD BB4B 3CB5 B4D7 10A2 0E45 1F7D Sender: owner-freebsd-hubs@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org We're still waiting on packages (and hence, the full install ISO). - Murray To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hubs" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hubs Thu Oct 10 8:52:53 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-hubs@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F0F9F37B401; Thu, 10 Oct 2002 08:52:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mailout.informatik.tu-muenchen.de (mailout.informatik.tu-muenchen.de [131.159.0.5]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 888E743E97; Thu, 10 Oct 2002 08:52:50 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from langd@informatik.tu-muenchen.de) Received: from mailrelay1.informatik.tu-muenchen.de (mailrelay1.informatik.tu-muenchen.de [131.159.254.5]) by mailout.informatik.tu-muenchen.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 80E9B6169; Thu, 10 Oct 2002 17:52:48 +0200 (MEST) Received: from atrbg11.informatik.tu-muenchen.de (atrbg11.informatik.tu-muenchen.de [131.159.42.129]) by mailrelay1.informatik.tu-muenchen.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5EC827942; Thu, 10 Oct 2002 17:52:48 +0200 (MEST) Received: by atrbg11.informatik.tu-muenchen.de (Postfix, from userid 20455) id EFBE01366C; Thu, 10 Oct 2002 17:52:47 +0200 (CEST) Date: Thu, 10 Oct 2002 17:52:47 +0200 From: Daniel Lang To: Murray Stokely Cc: hubs@FreeBSD.org, re@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: 4.7 Download Statistics Message-ID: <20021010155247.GB20985@atrbg11.informatik.tu-muenchen.de> References: <20021010082732.G1982@freebsdmall.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20021010082732.G1982@freebsdmall.com> X-Geek: GCS/CC d-- s: a- C++$ UBS++++$ P+++$ L- E-(---) W+++(--) N++ o K w--- O? M? V? PS+(++) PE--(+) Y+ PGP+ t++ 5+++ X R+(-) tv+ b+ DI++ D++ G++ e+++ h---(-) r++>+++ y+ User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.1i Sender: owner-freebsd-hubs@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi, Murray Stokely wrote on Thu, Oct 10, 2002 at 08:27:32AM -0700: > I'm very interested in getting download statistics about 4.7-RELEASE. > In the old days with wcarchive.cdrom.com, it was very easy to track > the increasing popularity of FreeBSD through downloads. This would be > a lot more work now with so many mirrors spread around the world, but > I think it is certainly worth while. > > Does anyone have any bright ideas about how best to collect and > tabulate the FTP logs for 4.7 from tens of different servers and > generate a unified download report? I don't have much time to > actually help with this endeavor, but it "Sure would be nice", and it > couldn't take more than a page of Perl and lots of coordination with > the various site admins. I think it will be difficult to get real numbers, but maybe its possible to get an idea or a trend. For our site one of the problems is the various sources of download like FTP, HTTP, RSYNC. Further aborted downloads can be continued. And one needs to have a clear idea, what exactly should be counted. For 4.7-RELEASE I can imagine the following: - ISO image downloads - release distribution file downloads The question remains, whole ISO files? Just the install-iso? How about repeated downloads? To track accesses in the releases/4.7-RELEASE and releases/ISO-IMAGES/4.7 directories would be a good start. However, even this is tricky using FTP, since a RETR of "bin.aa" would no longer reflect that it followed a CWD "pub/FreeBSD/releases/i386/4.7-RELEASE". Its a bit easier with http downloads, and rsync I did not check the logs, yet. I would grateful for any tools and suggestion, how to efficiently track downloads in a sensible way. I tried 'xferstats' once trimming our proftpd to provide wu-ftpd compatible logfiles, but xferstats crashed after a few 100MBs of logdata and has no way of 'remembering' once analysed results. "analog" may work, but I remember I tried that once, but gave up. I am willing to provide any stats, you might find useful. Best regards, Daniel -- IRCnet: Mr-Spock - Work is for people, who don't surf - *Daniel Lang * dl@leo.org * +49 89 289 18532 * http://www.leo.org/~dl/* To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hubs" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hubs Thu Oct 10 9: 6:40 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-hubs@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A0AEE37B401; Thu, 10 Oct 2002 09:06:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail.freebsdmall.com (ns1.freebsdmall.com [66.220.2.194]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1452943E91; Thu, 10 Oct 2002 09:06:38 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from murray@freebsdmall.com) Received: by mail.freebsdmall.com (Postfix, from userid 2074) id 755DA2E89E; Thu, 10 Oct 2002 09:06:35 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 10 Oct 2002 09:06:35 -0700 From: Murray Stokely To: Daniel Lang Cc: Murray Stokely , hubs@FreeBSD.org, re@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: 4.7 Download Statistics Message-ID: <20021010090635.K1982@freebsdmall.com> References: <20021010082732.G1982@freebsdmall.com> <20021010155247.GB20985@atrbg11.informatik.tu-muenchen.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5.1i In-Reply-To: <20021010155247.GB20985@atrbg11.informatik.tu-muenchen.de>; from dl@leo.org on Thu, Oct 10, 2002 at 05:52:47PM +0200 X-GPG-Key-ID: 1024D/0E451F7D X-GPG-Key-Fingerprint: E2CA 411D DD44 53FD BB4B 3CB5 B4D7 10A2 0E45 1F7D Sender: owner-freebsd-hubs@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Thu, Oct 10, 2002 at 05:52:47PM +0200, Daniel Lang wrote: > I think it will be difficult to get real numbers, but maybe > its possible to get an idea or a trend. 1. Number of bytes transferred from ${dir} directory. 2. Number of files transferred from ${dir} directory. where ${dir} is /pub/FreeBSD, /pub/FreeBSD/releases/i386/4.7-RELEASE, the ISO images dirs, etc.. > The question remains, whole ISO files? Just the install-iso? > How about repeated downloads? Are repeated downloads substantial? I assumed they would be insignificant. > To track accesses in the releases/4.7-RELEASE and > releases/ISO-IMAGES/4.7 directories would be a good start. > However, even this is tricky using FTP, since a RETR of "bin.aa" > would no longer reflect that it followed a > CWD "pub/FreeBSD/releases/i386/4.7-RELEASE". I don't understand why thats a problem. The log is not going to report "bin.aa", it is going to report the full pathname. The number of files and number of bytes is a good start, and something we can compare to the old ftp.cdrom.com numbers. These should include FTP and HTTP traffic. > I would grateful for any tools and suggestion, how to efficiently > track downloads in a sensible way. I tried 'xferstats' once > trimming our proftpd to provide wu-ftpd compatible logfiles, > but xferstats crashed after a few 100MBs of logdata and has no > way of 'remembering' once analysed results. > "analog" may work, but I remember I tried that once, but > gave up. We'll see what others say, I always just wrote Perl scripts to generate reports the way I wanted them. I've used analog for web data though. > I am willing to provide any stats, you might find useful. Cool, thanks. - Murray To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hubs" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hubs Thu Oct 10 9:15:33 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-hubs@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 21F0737B401 for ; Thu, 10 Oct 2002 09:15:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: from dragon.nuxi.com (trang.nuxi.com [66.92.13.169]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A5CD043EA3 for ; Thu, 10 Oct 2002 09:15:32 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from obrien@NUXI.com) Received: from dragon.nuxi.com (obrien@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by dragon.nuxi.com (8.12.6/8.12.2) with ESMTP id g9AGFW5b005602 for ; Thu, 10 Oct 2002 09:15:32 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from obrien@dragon.nuxi.com) Received: (from obrien@localhost) by dragon.nuxi.com (8.12.6/8.12.5/Submit) id g9AGFW7w005601 for hubs@freebsd.org; Thu, 10 Oct 2002 09:15:32 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 10 Oct 2002 09:15:32 -0700 From: "David O'Brien" To: hubs@freebsd.org Subject: HTTP access to ftpX.freebsd.org Message-ID: <20021010161532.GA5567@dragon.nuxi.com> Reply-To: obrien@freebsd.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.4i X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 5.0-CURRENT Organization: The NUXI BSD Group X-Pgp-Rsa-Fingerprint: B7 4D 3E E9 11 39 5F A3 90 76 5D 69 58 D9 98 7A X-Pgp-Rsa-Keyid: 1024/34F9F9D5 Sender: owner-freebsd-hubs@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Are any of the ftp*.freebsd.org servers willing to also offer files thru the HTTP protocol besides ftp? Corporate firewalls are getting more and more hostile to FTP; but of course there is no way they can't not support "web". To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hubs" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hubs Thu Oct 10 9:22:40 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-hubs@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 652AA37B406; Thu, 10 Oct 2002 09:22:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mailout.informatik.tu-muenchen.de (mailout.informatik.tu-muenchen.de [131.159.0.5]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6418F43EAC; Thu, 10 Oct 2002 09:22:38 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from langd@informatik.tu-muenchen.de) Received: from mailrelay1.informatik.tu-muenchen.de (mailrelay1.informatik.tu-muenchen.de [131.159.254.5]) by mailout.informatik.tu-muenchen.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3F4BF6196; Thu, 10 Oct 2002 18:22:34 +0200 (MEST) Received: from atrbg11.informatik.tu-muenchen.de (atrbg11.informatik.tu-muenchen.de [131.159.42.129]) by mailrelay1.informatik.tu-muenchen.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2D0407942; Thu, 10 Oct 2002 18:22:34 +0200 (MEST) Received: by atrbg11.informatik.tu-muenchen.de (Postfix, from userid 20455) id C7BFE1366C; Thu, 10 Oct 2002 18:22:33 +0200 (CEST) Date: Thu, 10 Oct 2002 18:22:33 +0200 From: Daniel Lang To: David O'Brien Cc: hubs@freebsd.org Subject: Re: HTTP access to ftpX.freebsd.org Message-ID: <20021010162233.GD20985@atrbg11.informatik.tu-muenchen.de> References: <20021010161532.GA5567@dragon.nuxi.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20021010161532.GA5567@dragon.nuxi.com> X-Geek: GCS/CC d-- s: a- C++$ UBS++++$ P+++$ L- E-(---) W+++(--) N++ o K w--- O? M? V? PS+(++) PE--(+) Y+ PGP+ t++ 5+++ X R+(-) tv+ b+ DI++ D++ G++ e+++ h---(-) r++>+++ y+ User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.1i Sender: owner-freebsd-hubs@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi David, David O'Brien wrote on Thu, Oct 10, 2002 at 09:15:32AM -0700: > Are any of the ftp*.freebsd.org servers willing to also offer files thru > the HTTP protocol besides ftp? Corporate firewalls are getting more and > more hostile to FTP; but of course there is no way they can't not support > "web". I assume a country-code subdomain is not a problem? We[1] offer http downloads for a while. FreeBSD is available at: http://ftp4.de.freebsd.org/download/pub/FreeBSD/ We've added it, because there are people with the opinion, http provides better throughput because of more static network connections, which can benefit better from large TCP congestion windows. I'm not sure if this is true, though. Best regards, Daniel [1] ftp.leo.org aka ftp4.de.freebsd.org -- IRCnet: Mr-Spock - My name is Pentium of Borg, division is futile, you will be approximated. - *Daniel Lang * dl@leo.org * +49 89 289 18532 * http://www.leo.org/~dl/* To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hubs" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hubs Thu Oct 10 9:22:41 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-hubs@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0ECEB37B401; Thu, 10 Oct 2002 09:22:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: from freesbee.wheel.dk (freesbee.wheel.dk [193.162.159.97]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7669043EAA; Thu, 10 Oct 2002 09:22:39 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jesper@skriver.dk) Received: by freesbee.wheel.dk (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 60F62384F8; Thu, 10 Oct 2002 18:22:38 +0200 (CEST) Date: Thu, 10 Oct 2002 18:22:38 +0200 From: Jesper Skriver To: David O'Brien Cc: hubs@freebsd.org Subject: Re: HTTP access to ftpX.freebsd.org Message-ID: <20021010162238.GE73763@skriver.dk> References: <20021010161532.GA5567@dragon.nuxi.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20021010161532.GA5567@dragon.nuxi.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4i X-PGP-Fingerprint: 6B88 9CE8 66E9 E631 C9C5 5EB4 22AB F0EC F956 1C31 X-PGP-Public-Key: http://freesbee.wheel.dk/~jesper/gpgkey.pub Sender: owner-freebsd-hubs@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Thu, Oct 10, 2002 at 09:15:32AM -0700, David O'Brien wrote: > Are any of the ftp*.freebsd.org servers willing to also offer files thru > the HTTP protocol besides ftp? Corporate firewalls are getting more and > more hostile to FTP; but of course there is no way they can't not support > "web". It's available from the Danish mirror, located quite close to ftp.FreeBSD.org. http://ftp.dk.FreeBSD.org/ I can do it at ftp.FreeBSD.org too, but it will have to wait till the dust settles after the 4.7-REL, the box is currently running with a load index of 100+, pushing about 120 Mbps, the box is currently memory and disk I/O bound, it actually push more data with fewer users. /Jesper -- Jesper Skriver, jesper(at)skriver(dot)dk - CCIE #5456 Senior network engineer @ AS3292, TDC Tele Danmark One Unix to rule them all, One Resolver to find them, One IP to bring them all and in the zone to bind them. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hubs" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hubs Thu Oct 10 9:32:37 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-hubs@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D253537B404 for ; Thu, 10 Oct 2002 09:32:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: from morimoto.progeny.com (morimoto.progeny.com [216.37.46.163]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E690443EB2 for ; Thu, 10 Oct 2002 09:32:35 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dsp@progeny.com) Received: from greymalkin.progeny.com (greymalkin.progeny.com [192.168.1.170]) by morimoto.progeny.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 533C7636A7 for ; Thu, 10 Oct 2002 11:32:35 -0500 (EST) Received: by greymalkin.progeny.com (Postfix, from userid 10025) id 47FACCBF; Thu, 10 Oct 2002 11:32:34 -0500 (EST) Received: from progeny.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by greymalkin.progeny.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 28CFE3D5E for ; Thu, 10 Oct 2002 11:32:34 -0500 (EST) From: Doug Porter To: hubs@freebsd.org Subject: Re: HTTP access to ftpX.freebsd.org In-Reply-To: Your message of "Thu, 10 Oct 2002 09:15:32 MST." <20021010161532.GA5567@dragon.nuxi.com> References: <20021010161532.GA5567@dragon.nuxi.com> User-Agent: nmh/1.0.4+dev (i686-pc-linux-gnu) Date: Thu, 10 Oct 2002 11:32:29 -0500 Message-Id: <20021010163234.47FACCBF@greymalkin.progeny.com> Sender: owner-freebsd-hubs@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org "David O'Brien" wrote: > > Are any of the ftp*.freebsd.org servers willing to also offer > files thru the HTTP protocol besides ftp? Corporate firewalls > are getting more and more hostile to FTP; but of course there > is no way they can't not support "web". We already support HTTP on archive.progeny.com (ftp13). -- Doug Porter To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hubs" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hubs Thu Oct 10 10: 9:39 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-hubs@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F25DB37B401 for ; Thu, 10 Oct 2002 10:09:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: from basm.cerias.purdue.edu (basm.cerias.purdue.edu [128.10.243.21]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 59FDE43EA3 for ; Thu, 10 Oct 2002 10:09:38 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from raj@cerias.purdue.edu) Received: (from raj@localhost) by basm.cerias.purdue.edu (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) id MAA14759 for hubs@freebsd.org; Thu, 10 Oct 2002 12:09:37 -0500 (EST) Date: Thu, 10 Oct 2002 12:09:37 -0500 From: Brian Poole To: hubs@freebsd.org Subject: Re: HTTP access to ftpX.freebsd.org Message-ID: <20021010170937.GK25009@basm.cerias.purdue.edu> References: <20021010161532.GA5567@dragon.nuxi.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20021010161532.GA5567@dragon.nuxi.com> Sender: owner-freebsd-hubs@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Quoting David O'Brien (obrien@FreeBSD.ORG) from 10 October 2002: > Are any of the ftp*.freebsd.org servers willing to also offer files thru > the HTTP protocol besides ftp? Corporate firewalls are getting more and > more hostile to FTP; but of course there is no way they can't not support > "web". ftp9 has supported http as well for a long time. -b To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hubs" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hubs Thu Oct 10 10:29:11 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-hubs@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 56DA237B404; Thu, 10 Oct 2002 10:29:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: from eden.ispol.com (eden.ispol.com [206.239.103.254]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 900F843EC5; Thu, 10 Oct 2002 10:29:04 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from grisha@ispol.com) Received: from eden.ispol.com (localhost.ispol.com [127.0.0.1]) by eden.ispol.com (8.12.3/8.11.1) with ESMTP id g9AHT3tV089614; Thu, 10 Oct 2002 13:29:03 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from grisha@ispol.com) Received: from localhost (grisha@localhost) by eden.ispol.com (8.12.3/8.12.3/Submit) with ESMTP id g9AHT388089611; Thu, 10 Oct 2002 13:29:03 -0400 (EDT) X-Authentication-Warning: eden.ispol.com: grisha owned process doing -bs Date: Thu, 10 Oct 2002 13:29:03 -0400 (EDT) From: "Gregory (Grisha) Trubetskoy" To: Murray Stokely Cc: Daniel Lang , Murray Stokely , , Subject: Re: 4.7 Download Statistics In-Reply-To: <20021010090635.K1982@freebsdmall.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-hubs@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Speaking for ftp2, but probably others would second - If someone were to volunteer dealing with stats (which will require some diskspace, processing power and time for dealing with various log file formats, etc), we'd be happy to upload log files on regular basis. But I don't think I (or Erik) have enough time to parse logs and compile any stats. We do have raw network IO graph available at: ftp://ftp2.freebsd.org/etc/ Since ftp2 server hosts nothing other than FreeBSD, it's fairly representative of the current trends. Grisha On Thu, 10 Oct 2002, Murray Stokely wrote: > On Thu, Oct 10, 2002 at 05:52:47PM +0200, Daniel Lang wrote: > > I think it will be difficult to get real numbers, but maybe > > its possible to get an idea or a trend. > > 1. Number of bytes transferred from ${dir} directory. > 2. Number of files transferred from ${dir} directory. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hubs" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hubs Thu Oct 10 10:37: 0 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-hubs@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B84D237B401; Thu, 10 Oct 2002 10:36:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lurza.secnetix.de (lurza.secnetix.de [212.66.1.130]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DFB4E43EA9; Thu, 10 Oct 2002 10:36:58 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from olli@lurza.secnetix.de) Received: from lurza.secnetix.de (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by lurza.secnetix.de (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g9AHaumC060967; Thu, 10 Oct 2002 19:36:57 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from oliver.fromme@secnetix.de) Received: (from olli@localhost) by lurza.secnetix.de (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g9AHauMb060965; Thu, 10 Oct 2002 19:36:56 +0200 (CEST) From: Oliver Fromme Message-Id: <200210101736.g9AHauMb060965@lurza.secnetix.de> Subject: Re: HTTP access to ftpX.freebsd.org To: obrien@FreeBSD.ORG Date: Thu, 10 Oct 2002 19:36:56 +0200 (CEST) Cc: hubs@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <20021010161532.GA5567@dragon.nuxi.com> from "David O'Brien" at Oct 10, 2002 09:15:32 AM X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.5 PL3] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-freebsd-hubs@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org David O'Brien wrote: > Are any of the ftp*.freebsd.org servers willing to also offer files thru > the HTTP protocol besides ftp? Corporate firewalls are getting more and > more hostile to FTP; but of course there is no way they can't not support > "web". ftp7.de.freebsd.org provides HTTP for many years, _but_ not for large files like ISO images. However, a FreeBSD install via HTTP works perfectly fine. Regards Oliver, ftp7.de maintainer -- Oliver Fromme, secnetix GmbH & Co KG, Oettingenstr. 2, 80538 München Any opinions expressed in this message may be personal to the author and may not necessarily reflect the opinions of secnetix in any way. "All that we see or seem is just a dream within a dream" (E. A. Poe) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hubs" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hubs Thu Oct 10 11:45: 5 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-hubs@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B029B37B401; Thu, 10 Oct 2002 11:45:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: from coe.ufrj.br (roma.coe.ufrj.br [146.164.53.65]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BBA2143EB7; Thu, 10 Oct 2002 11:45:03 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jonny@jonny.eng.br) Received: from jonny.eng.br (roma.coe.ufrj.br [146.164.53.65]) by coe.ufrj.br (Postfix) with ESMTP id 62897D92E6; Thu, 10 Oct 2002 15:44:55 -0300 (BRT) Message-ID: <3DA5CAA7.6000203@jonny.eng.br> Date: Thu, 10 Oct 2002 15:44:55 -0300 From: Joao Carlos Mendes Luis Organization: COPPE/UFRJ User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i386; en-US; rv:1.1) Gecko/20020826 X-Accept-Language: en, pt-BR, pt MIME-Version: 1.0 To: obrien@freebsd.org Cc: hubs@freebsd.org Subject: Re: HTTP access to ftpX.freebsd.org References: <20021010161532.GA5567@dragon.nuxi.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-hubs@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org David O'Brien wrote: > Are any of the ftp*.freebsd.org servers willing to also offer files thru > the HTTP protocol besides ftp? Corporate firewalls are getting more and > more hostile to FTP; but of course there is no way they can't not support > "web". As of today, ftp.br.freebsd.org can also be reached by http. I wonder why I've never had this idea before. :-( BTW: Is it time to add the http option to the sysinstall? If so, then we must agree on a format for the directories. I chose to use the /pub/FreeBSD as root, so one cannot see anything other than FreeBSD files in here. Jonny -- Joao Carlos Mendes Luis jonny@jonny.eng.br Networking Engineer jcml@ieee.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hubs" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hubs Thu Oct 10 12:42:34 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-hubs@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EBF6037B401; Thu, 10 Oct 2002 12:42:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lurza.secnetix.de (lurza.secnetix.de [212.66.1.130]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1B4C843E88; Thu, 10 Oct 2002 12:42:32 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from olli@lurza.secnetix.de) Received: from lurza.secnetix.de (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by lurza.secnetix.de (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g9AJgImC066430; Thu, 10 Oct 2002 21:42:18 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from oliver.fromme@secnetix.de) Received: (from olli@localhost) by lurza.secnetix.de (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g9AJgHqx066429; Thu, 10 Oct 2002 21:42:17 +0200 (CEST) From: Oliver Fromme Message-Id: <200210101942.g9AJgHqx066429@lurza.secnetix.de> Subject: Re: HTTP access to ftpX.freebsd.org To: jonny@jonny.eng.br (Joao Carlos Mendes Luis) Date: Thu, 10 Oct 2002 21:42:17 +0200 (CEST) Cc: obrien@FreeBSD.ORG, hubs@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <3DA5CAA7.6000203@jonny.eng.br> from "Joao Carlos Mendes Luis" at Oct 10, 2002 03:44:55 PM X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.5 PL3] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-freebsd-hubs@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Joao Carlos Mendes Luis wrote: > BTW: Is it time to add the http option to the sysinstall? I though that HTTP already works with sysinstall for ages. > If so, then we > must agree on a format for the directories. I chose to use the > /pub/FreeBSD as root, so one cannot see anything other than FreeBSD > files in here. Uhm, on "my" server it's exactly the same format as for FTP. That is, these two URLS refer to exactly the same thing: ftp://ftp7.de.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/tools/README.TXT http://ftp7.de.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/tools/README.TXT In fact, /pub is a CGI program (written in C for efficiency) which uses $PATH_INFO to deliver a file or a directory listing. If anything except /pub/* is accessed, a static page with some information is delivered. Regards Oliver -- Oliver Fromme, secnetix GmbH & Co KG, Oettingenstr. 2, 80538 München Any opinions expressed in this message may be personal to the author and may not necessarily reflect the opinions of secnetix in any way. "All that we see or seem is just a dream within a dream" (E. A. Poe) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hubs" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hubs Thu Oct 10 12:43: 7 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-hubs@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B7FAD37B401 for ; Thu, 10 Oct 2002 12:43:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: from dragon.nuxi.com (trang.nuxi.com [66.92.13.169]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 44A5143E9E for ; Thu, 10 Oct 2002 12:43:02 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from obrien@NUXI.com) Received: from dragon.nuxi.com (obrien@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by dragon.nuxi.com (8.12.6/8.12.2) with ESMTP id g9AJgp5b007317; Thu, 10 Oct 2002 12:42:51 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from obrien@dragon.nuxi.com) Received: (from obrien@localhost) by dragon.nuxi.com (8.12.6/8.12.5/Submit) id g9AJgnvv007316; Thu, 10 Oct 2002 12:42:49 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 10 Oct 2002 12:42:49 -0700 From: "David O'Brien" To: Joao Carlos Mendes Luis Cc: hubs@freebsd.org Subject: Re: HTTP access to ftpX.freebsd.org Message-ID: <20021010194249.GA7297@dragon.nuxi.com> Reply-To: obrien@freebsd.org References: <20021010161532.GA5567@dragon.nuxi.com> <3DA5CAA7.6000203@jonny.eng.br> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <3DA5CAA7.6000203@jonny.eng.br> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4i X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 5.0-CURRENT Organization: The NUXI BSD Group X-Pgp-Rsa-Fingerprint: B7 4D 3E E9 11 39 5F A3 90 76 5D 69 58 D9 98 7A X-Pgp-Rsa-Keyid: 1024/34F9F9D5 Sender: owner-freebsd-hubs@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Thu, Oct 10, 2002 at 03:44:55PM -0300, Joao Carlos Mendes Luis wrote: > BTW: Is it time to add the http option to the sysinstall? If so, then we > must agree on a format for the directories. I chose to use the > /pub/FreeBSD as root, so one cannot see anything other than FreeBSD > files in here. My interest in this is for 'pkg_add -r'. But I do think sysinstall should offer a list of mirrors that offer HTTP. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hubs" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hubs Thu Oct 10 13:34:24 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-hubs@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7EA2437B401; Thu, 10 Oct 2002 13:34:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: from coe.ufrj.br (roma.coe.ufrj.br [146.164.53.65]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 78DAB43E91; Thu, 10 Oct 2002 13:34:22 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jonny@jonny.eng.br) Received: from jonny.eng.br (roma.coe.ufrj.br [146.164.53.65]) by coe.ufrj.br (Postfix) with ESMTP id 91405D92EF; Thu, 10 Oct 2002 16:56:51 -0300 (BRT) Message-ID: <3DA5DB83.70303@jonny.eng.br> Date: Thu, 10 Oct 2002 16:56:51 -0300 From: Joao Carlos Mendes Luis Organization: COPPE/UFRJ User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i386; en-US; rv:1.1) Gecko/20020826 X-Accept-Language: en, pt-BR, pt MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Oliver Fromme Cc: obrien@FreeBSD.ORG, hubs@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: HTTP access to ftpX.freebsd.org References: <200210101942.g9AJgHqx066429@lurza.secnetix.de> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-hubs@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Oliver Fromme wrote: > Joao Carlos Mendes Luis wrote: > > BTW: Is it time to add the http option to the sysinstall? > > I though that HTTP already works with sysinstall for ages. FTP over HTTP proxy. No more than that. > > > If so, then we > > must agree on a format for the directories. I chose to use the > > /pub/FreeBSD as root, so one cannot see anything other than FreeBSD > > files in here. > > Uhm, on "my" server it's exactly the same format as for FTP. > That is, these two URLS refer to exactly the same thing: > > ftp://ftp7.de.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/tools/README.TXT > http://ftp7.de.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/tools/README.TXT > > In fact, /pub is a CGI program (written in C for efficiency) > which uses $PATH_INFO to deliver a file or a directory > listing. If anything except /pub/* is accessed, a static > page with some information is delivered. This is a problem in the sense that it blocks partial downloads, don't? One could wget --continue files if needed, or even use some windows downloader. Jonny -- Joao Carlos Mendes Luis jonny@jonny.eng.br Networking Engineer jcml@ieee.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hubs" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hubs Thu Oct 10 14:43:41 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-hubs@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 38AFD37B401 for ; Thu, 10 Oct 2002 14:43:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: from bessel.tekniikka.turkuamk.fi (bessel.tekniikka.turkuamk.fi [193.166.133.10]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1D35343ED4 for ; Thu, 10 Oct 2002 14:43:39 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from eyurtese@bessel.tekniikka.turkuamk.fi) Received: from localhost (eyurtese@localhost) by bessel.tekniikka.turkuamk.fi (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id AAA51264 for ; Fri, 11 Oct 2002 00:43:37 +0300 Date: Fri, 11 Oct 2002 00:43:36 +0300 (WET) From: Evren Yurtesen To: freebsd-hubs@freebsd.org Subject: broken link at http://www.freebsd.org/support.html#user Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8BIT Sender: owner-freebsd-hubs@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org The description of the broken link at freebsd user groups page is below; The address http://www.freebsdturkey.org/ gives a 404 error in essence. and on the page there is a link to http://www.trbil.net/ in turn which happens to be a link to an ISP and lots of Linux documentation and without a word about FreeBSD =((( ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Turkey The Turkish FreeBSD Users Group (Türkiye FreeBSD Kullanicilari Grubu) was founded in September 1999. TFUG is intended to help Turkish FreeBSD users to find support and articles on and about FreeBSD in the Turkish language. Contact M. Guven Mucuk for more info. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- PS. Was this the right place to inform this inciden? Thanks Evren To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hubs" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hubs Thu Oct 10 17:47:31 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-hubs@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C15E837B401 for ; Thu, 10 Oct 2002 17:47:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: from orthanc.ab.ca (orthanc.ab.ca [216.123.203.186]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3014643EB1 for ; Thu, 10 Oct 2002 17:47:30 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from lyndon@orthanc.ab.ca) Received: from orthanc.ab.ca (localhost.orthanc.ab.ca [IPv6:::1]) by orthanc.ab.ca (8.12.6/8.12.6) with ESMTP id g9B0la9a008553 for ; Thu, 10 Oct 2002 18:47:36 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from lyndon@orthanc.ab.ca) Received: (from lyndon@localhost) by orthanc.ab.ca (8.12.6/8.12.6/Submit) id g9B0laqw008552 for hubs@freebsd.org; Thu, 10 Oct 2002 18:47:36 -0600 (MDT) Date: Thu, 10 Oct 2002 18:47:36 -0600 (MDT) From: Lyndon Nerenberg Message-Id: <200210110047.g9B0laqw008552@orthanc.ab.ca> To: hubs@freebsd.org Subject: Questionable ISO modes on ftp2 Sender: owner-freebsd-hubs@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org The permissions for the 4.7 i386 ISO images on ftp2 are: 150 Opening ASCII mode data connection for '/bin/ls'. total 5487666 -rw-rw-r-- 1 root 65532 639729664 Oct 9 22:11 4.7-disc1.iso -rw-rw-r-- 1 65532 65532 666075136 Oct 9 07:17 4.7-disc2.iso -rw-rw-r-- 1 65532 65532 654835712 Oct 8 10:13 4.7-disc3.iso -rw-rw-r-- 1 65532 65532 648937472 Oct 8 10:47 4.7-disc4.iso -rw-rw-r-- 1 root 65532 198672384 Oct 9 23:07 4.7-mini.iso -rw-rw-r-- 1 root 65532 274 Oct 9 23:19 CHECKSUM.MD5 226 Transfer complete. These look a bit dangerous. While ftpd might be configured read-only, the non-root [gu]ids that have write access to the images make me nervous. So, this is a gentle nudge to the FTP site admins to take a look at the distribution files on your servers and make sure the permissions are reasonable (especially in light of the recent sendmail distributions compromise). While trolling though some other servers, ftp9 shows: -rw-rw-r-- 1 ftpuser ftpusers 639729664 Oct 9 17:11 4.7-disc1.iso -rw-rw-r-- 1 ftpuser ftpusers 666075136 Oct 9 02:17 4.7-disc2.iso -rw-rw-r-- 1 ftpuser ftpusers 654835712 Oct 8 05:13 4.7-disc3.iso -rw-rw-r-- 1 ftpuser ftpusers 648937472 Oct 8 05:47 4.7-disc4.iso -rw-rw-r-- 1 ftpuser ftpusers 198672384 Oct 9 18:07 4.7-mini.iso -rw-rw-r-- 1 ftpuser ftpusers 274 Oct 9 18:19 CHECKSUM.MD5 226 Listing completed. So maybe the distribution files on ftp-master had mode 664 to begin with? --lyndon To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hubs" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hubs Thu Oct 10 18:46:24 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-hubs@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1A8C637B401 for ; Thu, 10 Oct 2002 18:46:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: from veil.qala.com.sg (veil.qala.com.sg [210.193.2.44]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 19E7243EAA for ; Thu, 10 Oct 2002 18:46:22 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mirror-maintainer@mirror.averse.net) Received: from spam.averse.net (mirror [210.193.6.237] (may be forged)) by veil.qala.com.sg (8.11.3/8.11.3) with ESMTP id g9B1kB309189 for ; Fri, 11 Oct 2002 09:46:12 +0800 (SGT) Date: Fri, 11 Oct 2002 09:46:13 +0800 (SGT) From: mirror-maintainer@mirror.averse.net X-X-Sender: pyng@spam.averse.net To: hubs@freebsd.org Subject: Re: HTTP access to ftpX.freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <3DA5CAA7.6000203@jonny.eng.br> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-hubs@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Thu, 10 Oct 2002, Joao Carlos Mendes Luis wrote: > David O'Brien wrote: > > Are any of the ftp*.freebsd.org servers willing to also offer files thru > > the HTTP protocol besides ftp? Corporate firewalls are getting more and > > more hostile to FTP; but of course there is no way they can't not support > > "web". > As of today, ftp.br.freebsd.org can also be reached by http. I wonder > why I've never had this idea before. :-( For what it's worth, ftp.sg.freebsd.org can now be reached by http too, via http://ftp.sg.freebsd.org/freebsd, although 4.7 is not available yet because I mirror from sunsite.dk and they don't seem to have it up yet ;) > must agree on a format for the directories. I chose to use the > /pub/FreeBSD as root, so one cannot see anything other than FreeBSD > files in here. Agreeing on a format would be great. Should we go with the defacto .../pub/FreeBSD/ ? To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hubs" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hubs Thu Oct 10 19:11:19 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-hubs@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AE54E37B401; Thu, 10 Oct 2002 19:11:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: from sabre.velocet.net (sabre.velocet.net [216.138.209.205]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0E14743EA9; Thu, 10 Oct 2002 19:11:17 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dgilbert@velocet.ca) Received: from trooper.velocet.ca (trooper.velocet.net [216.138.242.2]) by sabre.velocet.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C1236138206; Thu, 10 Oct 2002 22:11:07 -0400 (EDT) Received: by trooper.velocet.ca (Postfix, from userid 66) id 7B6ED745EE; Thu, 10 Oct 2002 22:11:07 -0400 (EDT) Received: by canoe.velocet.net (Postfix, from userid 101) id CED74567627; Thu, 10 Oct 2002 18:56:02 -0400 (EDT) From: David Gilbert MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <15782.1410.760385.123801@canoe.velocet.net> Date: Thu, 10 Oct 2002 18:56:02 -0400 To: Murray Stokely Cc: Daniel Lang , Murray Stokely , hubs@FreeBSD.org, re@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: 4.7 Download Statistics In-Reply-To: <20021010090635.K1982@freebsdmall.com> References: <20021010082732.G1982@freebsdmall.com> <20021010155247.GB20985@atrbg11.informatik.tu-muenchen.de> <20021010090635.K1982@freebsdmall.com> X-Mailer: VM 7.07 under 21.1 (patch 14) "Cuyahoga Valley" XEmacs Lucid Sender: owner-freebsd-hubs@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org >>>>> "Murray" == Murray Stokely writes: Murray> On Thu, Oct 10, 2002 at 05:52:47PM +0200, Daniel Lang wrote: >> I think it will be difficult to get real numbers, but maybe its >> possible to get an idea or a trend. Murray> 1. Number of bytes transferred from ${dir} directory. Murray> 2. Number of files transferred from ${dir} directory. Murray> where ${dir} is /pub/FreeBSD, Murray> /pub/FreeBSD/releases/i386/4.7-RELEASE, the ISO images dirs, Murray> etc.. >> The question remains, whole ISO files? Just the install-iso? How >> about repeated downloads? Murray> Are repeated downloads substantial? I assumed they would be Murray> insignificant. It's a difficult problem for many distributions. We run a centrallized cvsup server for our organization (and anyone who uses our ISP) and the majority of our 200-ish deployed machines update via CVSUP. We keep our own install master that is largely disk-duplicated into new machines for install ... and the remaining installs come from a single download of the ISO that I do each release. I also offer free ISOs to anyone locally who expresses an interest in FreeBSD. I typically distribute 5 to 10 copies per release. ... It may help get a handle on numbers if people were encouraged to submit the number of FreeBSD hosts they run in their organization. I know that take-up on a proposal like this isn't 100%, but then the ftp stats aren't an accurate representation, either. However, if you also asked for a 'number of downloads' type number, you could compare the installations to the ftp to come up with a slightly better estimate. Dave. -- ============================================================================ |David Gilbert, Velocet Communications. | Two things can only be | |Mail: dgilbert@velocet.net | equal if and only if they | |http://daveg.ca | are precisely opposite. | =========================================================GLO================ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hubs" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hubs Fri Oct 11 4:40: 6 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-hubs@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 76F2337B401 for ; Fri, 11 Oct 2002 04:40:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: from woozle.rinet.ru (woozle.rinet.ru [195.54.192.68]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 391C243EAC for ; Fri, 11 Oct 2002 04:40:03 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from marck@rinet.ru) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by woozle.rinet.ru (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g9BBdwTJ073610 for ; Fri, 11 Oct 2002 15:39:58 +0400 (MSD) (envelope-from marck@rinet.ru) Date: Fri, 11 Oct 2002 14:45:13 +0400 (MSD) From: Dmitry Morozovsky To: ftp@freebsd.org Cc: re@freebsd.org Subject: outdated .message at /pub/FreeBSD/ports/i386 Message-ID: <20021011144155.X30934-100000@woozle.rinet.ru> X-NCC-RegID: ru.rinet MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-hubs@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hello there colleagues, at tier1 FreeBSD mirrors, there are outdated .message files at packages collection hierarchy. In particular, it mentions 2.2 and 3 packages not exist anymore, and states packages-5-current as unavailable. I suppose it'd better be fixed ;-) Sincerely, D.Marck [DM5020, DM268-RIPE, DM3-RIPN] ------------------------------------------------------------------------ *** Dmitry Morozovsky --- D.Marck --- Wild Woozle --- marck@rinet.ru *** ------------------------------------------------------------------------ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hubs" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hubs Fri Oct 11 5:53:12 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-hubs@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B78D837B401 for ; Fri, 11 Oct 2002 05:53:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: from bessel.tekniikka.turkuamk.fi (bessel.tekniikka.turkuamk.fi [193.166.133.10]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B2EBB43E7B for ; Fri, 11 Oct 2002 05:53:08 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from eyurtese@bessel.tekniikka.turkuamk.fi) Received: from localhost (eyurtese@localhost) by bessel.tekniikka.turkuamk.fi (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id PAA45404 for ; Fri, 11 Oct 2002 15:53:04 +0300 Date: Fri, 11 Oct 2002 15:53:03 +0300 (WET) From: Evren Yurtesen To: freebsd-hubs@freebsd.org Subject: about @XX.freebsd.org email account policies...??? Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII Content-ID: Content-Disposition: INLINE Sender: owner-freebsd-hubs@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi I am currently hosting dns entries for tr.freebsd.org and www.tr.freebsd.org web site. I was wondering what kind of policies the freebsd project has about email addresses used by subdomains like @XX.freebsd.org I ask this because one of my friend who is affiliated with http://www.enderunix.org/ suggested that they want to give some email addresses to some people who are developing software, making documentation in Turkish etc. for FreeBSD in Turkey. So I should set the MX records... I just felt inclined to ask about the freebsd project's policies about this just to be on the safe side. If you know anybody who can answer this question or if you can give a quick answer, it would be nice. Thanks Evren To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hubs" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hubs Fri Oct 11 5:56:15 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-hubs@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 91B5237B401 for ; Fri, 11 Oct 2002 05:56:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: from post.kis.ru (post.kis.ru [195.98.32.206]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1F79643E6A for ; Fri, 11 Oct 2002 05:56:12 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dv@dv.ru) Received: from xkis.kis.ru ([195.98.32.200] verified) by post.kis.ru (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 3.5.9) with ESMTP id 816462; Fri, 11 Oct 2002 16:56:08 +0400 Date: Fri, 11 Oct 2002 16:56:09 +0400 (MSD) From: Dmitry Valdov X-X-Sender: dv@xkis.kis.ru To: hostmaster@ru.freebsd.org Cc: hubs@freebsd.org Subject: 2nd try Message-ID: <20021011165442.J24679-100000@xkis.kis.ru> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-hubs@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi! Once again, please change cvsup2.ru.freebsd.org to CNAME cvsup.freebsd.nnov.ru and www4.ru.freebsd.org to www.freebsd.nnov.ru. -- Dmitry Valdov mailto:dv@dv.ru CCNP To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hubs" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hubs Fri Oct 11 6:12:29 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-hubs@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A3C3937B401; Fri, 11 Oct 2002 06:12:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: from amun.isnic.is (amun.isnic.is [193.4.58.10]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D325143EAC; Fri, 11 Oct 2002 06:12:27 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from oli@amun.isnic.is) Received: from amun.isnic.is (oli@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by amun.isnic.is (8.12.3/8.12.3/isnic) with ESMTP id g9BDCGIa026036; Fri, 11 Oct 2002 13:12:16 GMT (envelope-from oli@amun.isnic.is) Received: (from oli@localhost) by amun.isnic.is (8.12.3/8.12.3/Submit) id g9BDCGhv026035; Fri, 11 Oct 2002 13:12:16 GMT (envelope-from oli) Date: Fri, 11 Oct 2002 13:12:16 +0000 From: Olafur Osvaldsson To: "David O'Brien" Cc: hubs@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: HTTP access to ftpX.freebsd.org Message-ID: <20021011131216.GC25334@isnic.is> References: <20021010161532.GA5567@dragon.nuxi.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20021010161532.GA5567@dragon.nuxi.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.28i Sender: owner-freebsd-hubs@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org We have http and rsync at ftp.is.* /Oli On Thu, 10 Oct 2002, David O'Brien wrote: > Are any of the ftp*.freebsd.org servers willing to also offer files thru > the HTTP protocol besides ftp? Corporate firewalls are getting more and > more hostile to FTP; but of course there is no way they can't not support > "web". > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-hubs" in the body of the message -- Olafur Osvaldsson Systems Administrator Internet a Islandi hf. Tel: +354 525-5291 Email: oli@isnic.is To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hubs" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hubs Fri Oct 11 6:16:52 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-hubs@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1717137B401 for ; Fri, 11 Oct 2002 06:16:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: from bast.unixathome.org (bast.unixathome.org [216.187.105.150]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A220743E6A for ; Fri, 11 Oct 2002 06:16:51 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dan@langille.org) Received: from wocker (wocker.unixathome.org [192.168.0.99]) by bast.unixathome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 425243F4B; Fri, 11 Oct 2002 09:16:50 -0400 (EDT) From: "Dan Langille" To: Dmitry Valdov Date: Fri, 11 Oct 2002 09:17:06 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: 2nd try Cc: hubs@freebsd.org, hostmaster@ru.freebsd.org Message-ID: <3DA69712.21810.292A1F0E@localhost> In-reply-to: <20021011165442.J24679-100000@xkis.kis.ru> X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v4.02) Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-description: Mail message body Sender: owner-freebsd-hubs@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On 11 Oct 2002 at 16:56, Dmitry Valdov wrote: > Hi! > > Once again, please change cvsup2.ru.freebsd.org to CNAME > cvsup.freebsd.nnov.ru and www4.ru.freebsd.org to www.freebsd.nnov.ru. I think your messages should be directed to hostmaster@ru.freebsd.org. -- Dan Langille I'm looking for a computer job: http://www.freebsddiary.org/dan_langille.php To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hubs" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hubs Fri Oct 11 6:37:24 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-hubs@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 552EB37B401 for ; Fri, 11 Oct 2002 06:37:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: from tenchi.dreamlabs.com (tenchi.dreamlabs.com [216.220.37.61]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D361A43E91 for ; Fri, 11 Oct 2002 06:37:21 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mit@dreamlabs.com) Received: from shadow (unknown [65.48.152.81]) by tenchi.dreamlabs.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3DD53390B4D; Fri, 11 Oct 2002 09:37:13 -0400 (EDT) Reply-To: From: "Will Mitayai Keeso Rowe" To: "'Evren Yurtesen'" , Subject: RE: about @XX.freebsd.org email account policies...??? Date: Fri, 11 Oct 2002 09:37:10 -0400 Organization: DreamLabs.Com Message-ID: <003501c2712b$4da0a020$51983041@shadow> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.3416 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 In-Reply-To: Importance: Normal Sender: owner-freebsd-hubs@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I have to admit that this makes me a bit uncomfortable. I do have MX records for ca.freebsd.org, but that's for purposes of administration: "hostmaster", "abuse" and "webmaster". To list my email as, say, mitayai@ca.freebsd.org, might give the false impression to the public that I'm more part of the freebsd team than I am. There is a certain 'prestige' that comes with a freebsd.org address (which I have yet to deserve) as well, I think, a responsibility as a visible, respected member of the community. So, I'm suggesting that use of a XX.freebsd.org addess be discouraged, and that if anyone wants a freebsd.org address they apply straight to the freebsd team directly themselves. -Mit -----Original Message----- From: owner-freebsd-hubs@FreeBSD.ORG [mailto:owner-freebsd-hubs@FreeBSD.ORG] On Behalf Of Evren Yurtesen Sent: October 11, 2002 8:53 AM To: freebsd-hubs@freebsd.org Subject: about @XX.freebsd.org email account policies...??? Hi I am currently hosting dns entries for tr.freebsd.org and www.tr.freebsd.org web site. I was wondering what kind of policies the freebsd project has about email addresses used by subdomains like @XX.freebsd.org I ask this because one of my friend who is affiliated with http://www.enderunix.org/ suggested that they want to give some email addresses to some people who are developing software, making documentation in Turkish etc. for FreeBSD in Turkey. So I should set the MX records... I just felt inclined to ask about the freebsd project's policies about this just to be on the safe side. If you know anybody who can answer this question or if you can give a quick answer, it would be nice. Thanks Evren To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hubs" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hubs" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hubs Fri Oct 11 6:40: 6 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-hubs@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ADC9437B401 for ; Fri, 11 Oct 2002 06:40:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: from post.kis.ru (post.kis.ru [195.98.32.206]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1F3D943EA3 for ; Fri, 11 Oct 2002 06:40:03 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dv@dv.ru) Received: from xkis.kis.ru ([195.98.32.200] verified) by post.kis.ru (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 3.5.9) with ESMTP id 816635; Fri, 11 Oct 2002 17:40:00 +0400 Date: Fri, 11 Oct 2002 17:40:00 +0400 (MSD) From: Dmitry Valdov X-X-Sender: dv@xkis.kis.ru To: Dan Langille Cc: hubs@FreeBSD.ORG, Subject: Re: 2nd try In-Reply-To: <3DA69712.21810.292A1F0E@localhost> Message-ID: <20021011173934.X31780-100000@xkis.kis.ru> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-hubs@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Fri, 11 Oct 2002, Dan Langille wrote: > On 11 Oct 2002 at 16:56, Dmitry Valdov wrote: > > > Hi! > > > > Once again, please change cvsup2.ru.freebsd.org to CNAME > > cvsup.freebsd.nnov.ru and www4.ru.freebsd.org to www.freebsd.nnov.ru. > > I think your messages should be directed to > hostmaster@ru.freebsd.org. > Already done. There is no answer. -- Dmitry Valdov mailto:dv@dv.ru CCNP To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hubs" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hubs Fri Oct 11 6:46:22 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-hubs@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 494BF37B401; Fri, 11 Oct 2002 06:46:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: from bast.unixathome.org (bast.unixathome.org [216.187.105.150]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CBCCF43EA3; Fri, 11 Oct 2002 06:46:20 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dan@langille.org) Received: from wocker (wocker.unixathome.org [192.168.0.99]) by bast.unixathome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D90683F4B; Fri, 11 Oct 2002 09:46:19 -0400 (EDT) From: "Dan Langille" To: Dmitry Valdov Date: Fri, 11 Oct 2002 09:46:36 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: 2nd try Cc: hubs@FreeBSD.ORG, , hostmaster@freebsd.org Message-ID: <3DA69DFC.963.29452014@localhost> References: <3DA69712.21810.292A1F0E@localhost> In-reply-to: <20021011173934.X31780-100000@xkis.kis.ru> X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v4.02) Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-description: Mail message body Sender: owner-freebsd-hubs@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On 11 Oct 2002 at 17:40, Dmitry Valdov wrote: > On Fri, 11 Oct 2002, Dan Langille wrote: > > > On 11 Oct 2002 at 16:56, Dmitry Valdov wrote: > > > > > Hi! > > > > > > Once again, please change cvsup2.ru.freebsd.org to CNAME > > > cvsup.freebsd.nnov.ru and www4.ru.freebsd.org to www.freebsd.nnov.ru. > > > > I think your messages should be directed to > > hostmaster@ru.freebsd.org. > > > > Already done. There is no answer. Then I suggest hostmaster@freebsd.org. Go up the chain. -- Dan Langille I'm looking for a computer job: http://www.freebsddiary.org/dan_langille.php To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hubs" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hubs Fri Oct 11 6:50:46 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-hubs@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B1A5C37B401 for ; Fri, 11 Oct 2002 06:50:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: from bast.unixathome.org (bast.unixathome.org [216.187.105.150]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3DB5A43E97 for ; Fri, 11 Oct 2002 06:50:45 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dan@langille.org) Received: from wocker (wocker.unixathome.org [192.168.0.99]) by bast.unixathome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4F93A3F4B; Fri, 11 Oct 2002 09:50:44 -0400 (EDT) From: "Dan Langille" To: "Will Mitayai Keeso Rowe" Date: Fri, 11 Oct 2002 09:51:00 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: RE: about @XX.freebsd.org email account policies...??? Cc: freebsd-hubs@freebsd.org Message-ID: <3DA69F04.1263.29492921@localhost> In-reply-to: <003501c2712b$4da0a020$51983041@shadow> References: X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v4.02) Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-description: Mail message body Sender: owner-freebsd-hubs@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On 11 Oct 2002 at 9:37, Will Mitayai Keeso Rowe wrote: > To list my email as, say, mitayai@ca.freebsd.org, might give the false > impression to the public that I'm more part of the freebsd team than I > am. You are part of the FreeBSD team. Specifically, the ca.freebsd.org team. I think it's quite clear to anyone involved that a @ca.freebsd.org address is very different to a @freebsd.org. -- Dan Langille I'm looking for a computer job: http://www.freebsddiary.org/dan_langille.php To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hubs" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hubs Fri Oct 11 7: 7:33 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-hubs@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C253837B406 for ; Fri, 11 Oct 2002 07:07:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: from tenchi.dreamlabs.com (tenchi.dreamlabs.com [216.220.37.61]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6587543E8A for ; Fri, 11 Oct 2002 07:07:31 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mit@dreamlabs.com) Received: from shadow (CPE014400120707.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com [65.48.152.81]) by tenchi.dreamlabs.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2A800390B4D; Fri, 11 Oct 2002 10:07:29 -0400 (EDT) From: "Will Mitayai Keeso Rowe" To: "'Dan Langille'" Cc: Subject: RE: about @XX.freebsd.org email account policies...??? Date: Fri, 11 Oct 2002 10:07:26 -0400 Message-ID: <005801c2712f$87c484c0$51983041@shadow> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.3416 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 In-Reply-To: <3DA69F04.1263.29492921@localhost> Importance: Normal Sender: owner-freebsd-hubs@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org That may be so, (in fact, at this point me and my staff *are* ca.freebsd.org team, something we're trolling around bsd groups to change), but I still would feel awkward about joeblowuser@xx.freebsd.org. It's clear to you and me that there is a difference, but is it clear to the public? -Mit -----Original Message----- From: owner-freebsd-hubs@FreeBSD.ORG [mailto:owner-freebsd-hubs@FreeBSD.ORG] On Behalf Of Dan Langille Sent: October 11, 2002 9:51 AM To: Will Mitayai Keeso Rowe Cc: freebsd-hubs@freebsd.org Subject: RE: about @XX.freebsd.org email account policies...??? On 11 Oct 2002 at 9:37, Will Mitayai Keeso Rowe wrote: > To list my email as, say, mitayai@ca.freebsd.org, might give the false > impression to the public that I'm more part of the freebsd team than I > am. You are part of the FreeBSD team. Specifically, the ca.freebsd.org team. I think it's quite clear to anyone involved that a @ca.freebsd.org address is very different to a @freebsd.org. -- Dan Langille I'm looking for a computer job: http://www.freebsddiary.org/dan_langille.php To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hubs" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hubs" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hubs Fri Oct 11 7:14:23 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-hubs@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9169237B401; Fri, 11 Oct 2002 07:14:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: from demos.su (mx.demos.su [194.87.0.32]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8346A43EA9; Fri, 11 Oct 2002 07:14:19 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from bag@sinbin.demos.su) Received: from [194.87.5.31] (HELO sinbin.demos.su) by demos.su (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.0b9/D) with ESMTP-TLS id 51975034; Fri, 11 Oct 2002 18:14:18 +0400 Received: from sinbin.demos.su by sinbin.demos.su with ESMTPœ id g9BEDNx1065161; (8.12.6/D) Fri, 11 Oct 2002 18:13:23 +0400 (MSD) Received: (from bag@localhost) by sinbin.demos.su (8.12.6/8.12.5/Submit) id g9BEDNjR065160; Fri, 11 Oct 2002 18:13:23 +0400 (MSD) Message-Id: <200210111413.g9BEDNjR065160@sinbin.demos.su> Subject: Re: 2nd try In-Reply-To: <3DA69DFC.963.29452014@localhost> from Dan Langille at "Oct 11, 2002 9:46:36 am" To: dan@langille.org (Dan Langille) Date: Fri, 11 Oct 2002 18:13:23 +0400 (MSD) Cc: dv@dv.ru, hubs@FreeBSD.ORG, hostmaster@ru.freebsd.org, hostmaster@FreeBSD.ORG From: "Alex G. Bulushev" Organization: Demos Internet X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-hubs@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > On 11 Oct 2002 at 17:40, Dmitry Valdov wrote: > > > On Fri, 11 Oct 2002, Dan Langille wrote: > > > > > On 11 Oct 2002 at 16:56, Dmitry Valdov wrote: > > > > > > > Hi! > > > > > > > > Once again, please change cvsup2.ru.freebsd.org to CNAME > > > > cvsup.freebsd.nnov.ru and www4.ru.freebsd.org to www.freebsd.nnov.ru. > > > > > > I think your messages should be directed to > > > hostmaster@ru.freebsd.org. > > > > > > > Already done. There is no answer. > > Then I suggest hostmaster@freebsd.org. Go up the chain. > -- > Dan Langille > I'm looking for a computer job: > http://www.freebsddiary.org/dan_langille.php ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 11 Oct 2002 17:46:33 +0400 To: Dmitry Valdov Cc: hostmaster@ru.freebsd.org Subject: Re: 2nd try On Fri, 11 Oct 2002 16:56:09 +0400 (MSD) Dmitry Valdov wrote: Done. > Hi! > > Once again, please change cvsup2.ru.freebsd.org to CNAME > cvsup.freebsd.nnov.ru and www4.ru.freebsd.org to www.freebsd.nnov.ru. > > -- > Dmitry Valdov mailto:dv@dv.ru > CCNP --- Zherdev Anatoly. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hubs" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hubs Fri Oct 11 7:21: 3 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-hubs@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9EF3137B401 for ; Fri, 11 Oct 2002 07:21:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: from bessel.tekniikka.turkuamk.fi (bessel.tekniikka.turkuamk.fi [193.166.133.10]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B2F2E43E97 for ; Fri, 11 Oct 2002 07:20:58 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from eyurtese@bessel.tekniikka.turkuamk.fi) Received: from localhost (eyurtese@localhost) by bessel.tekniikka.turkuamk.fi (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id RAA57302; Fri, 11 Oct 2002 17:20:42 +0300 Date: Fri, 11 Oct 2002 17:20:42 +0300 (WET) From: Evren Yurtesen To: Will Mitayai Keeso Rowe Cc: freebsd-hubs@freebsd.org Subject: RE: about @XX.freebsd.org email account policies...??? In-Reply-To: <003501c2712b$4da0a020$51983041@shadow> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-hubs@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org What if I register freebsd.org.tr? Would using those email addresses be inappropriate do you think? Evren On Fri, 11 Oct 2002, Will Mitayai Keeso Rowe wrote: > I have to admit that this makes me a bit uncomfortable. > > I do have MX records for ca.freebsd.org, but that's for purposes of > administration: "hostmaster", "abuse" and "webmaster". > > To list my email as, say, mitayai@ca.freebsd.org, might give the false > impression to the public that I'm more part of the freebsd team than I > am. There is a certain 'prestige' that comes with a freebsd.org address > (which I have yet to deserve) as well, I think, a responsibility as a > visible, respected member of the community. > > So, I'm suggesting that use of a XX.freebsd.org addess be discouraged, > and that if anyone wants a freebsd.org address they apply straight to > the freebsd team directly themselves. > > -Mit > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-freebsd-hubs@FreeBSD.ORG > [mailto:owner-freebsd-hubs@FreeBSD.ORG] On Behalf Of Evren Yurtesen > Sent: October 11, 2002 8:53 AM > To: freebsd-hubs@freebsd.org > Subject: about @XX.freebsd.org email account policies...??? > > > Hi > > I am currently hosting dns entries for tr.freebsd.org and > www.tr.freebsd.org web site. > > I was wondering what kind of policies the freebsd project > has about email addresses used by subdomains like @XX.freebsd.org > > I ask this because one of my friend who is affiliated with > http://www.enderunix.org/ suggested that they want to give some email > addresses to some people who are developing software, making > documentation > in Turkish etc. for FreeBSD in Turkey. So I should set the MX records... > > I just felt inclined to ask about the freebsd project's policies about > this just to be on the safe side. > > If you know anybody who can answer this question or if you can give a > quick answer, it would be nice. > > Thanks > Evren > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-hubs" in the body of the message > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hubs" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hubs Fri Oct 11 7:26:54 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-hubs@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 14A8E37B401 for ; Fri, 11 Oct 2002 07:26:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: from bast.unixathome.org (bast.unixathome.org [216.187.105.150]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 952CC43EA3 for ; Fri, 11 Oct 2002 07:26:53 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dan@langille.org) Received: from wocker (wocker.unixathome.org [192.168.0.99]) by bast.unixathome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CE0AC3F4B; Fri, 11 Oct 2002 10:26:52 -0400 (EDT) From: "Dan Langille" To: "Will Mitayai Keeso Rowe" Date: Fri, 11 Oct 2002 10:27:09 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: RE: about @XX.freebsd.org email account policies...??? Cc: Message-ID: <3DA6A77D.13845.296A4091@localhost> In-reply-to: <005801c2712f$87c484c0$51983041@shadow> References: <3DA69F04.1263.29492921@localhost> X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v4.02) Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-description: Mail message body Sender: owner-freebsd-hubs@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org We can't be responsible for educating everyone. They have to do some things on their own. On 11 Oct 2002 at 10:07, Will Mitayai Keeso Rowe wrote: > That may be so, (in fact, at this point me and my staff *are* > ca.freebsd.org team, something we're trolling around bsd groups to > change), but I still would feel awkward about > joeblowuser@xx.freebsd.org. It's clear to you and me that there is a > difference, but is it clear to the public? -- Dan Langille I'm looking for a computer job: http://www.freebsddiary.org/dan_langille.php To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hubs" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hubs Fri Oct 11 11:55:43 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-hubs@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 974DB37B401 for ; Fri, 11 Oct 2002 11:55:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gaultopia.org (yttrium.4ph.com [66.197.0.170]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0171443E97 for ; Fri, 11 Oct 2002 11:55:41 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from eng@gaultopia.org) Received: (qmail 30050 invoked by uid 1001); 11 Oct 2002 18:55:39 -0000 Date: Fri, 11 Oct 2002 14:45:09 -0400 From: Erik Gault To: Lyndon Nerenberg Subject: Re: Questionable ISO modes on ftp2 Message-ID: <20021011184509.GC29449@yttrium.gaultopia.org> References: <200210110047.g9B0laqw008552@orthanc.ab.ca> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <200210110047.g9B0laqw008552@orthanc.ab.ca> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.1i Sender: owner-freebsd-hubs@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org mistake. thanks for pointing it out =). erik On Thu, Oct 10, 2002 at 06:47:36PM -0600, Lyndon Nerenberg wrote: > The permissions for the 4.7 i386 ISO images on ftp2 are: > > 150 Opening ASCII mode data connection for '/bin/ls'. > total 5487666 > -rw-rw-r-- 1 root 65532 639729664 Oct 9 22:11 4.7-disc1.iso > -rw-rw-r-- 1 65532 65532 666075136 Oct 9 07:17 4.7-disc2.iso > -rw-rw-r-- 1 65532 65532 654835712 Oct 8 10:13 4.7-disc3.iso > -rw-rw-r-- 1 65532 65532 648937472 Oct 8 10:47 4.7-disc4.iso > -rw-rw-r-- 1 root 65532 198672384 Oct 9 23:07 4.7-mini.iso > -rw-rw-r-- 1 root 65532 274 Oct 9 23:19 CHECKSUM.MD5 > 226 Transfer complete. > > These look a bit dangerous. While ftpd might be configured read-only, > the non-root [gu]ids that have write access to the images make me > nervous. So, this is a gentle nudge to the FTP site admins to take > a look at the distribution files on your servers and make sure > the permissions are reasonable (especially in light of the recent > sendmail distributions compromise). > > While trolling though some other servers, ftp9 shows: > > -rw-rw-r-- 1 ftpuser ftpusers 639729664 Oct 9 17:11 4.7-disc1.iso > -rw-rw-r-- 1 ftpuser ftpusers 666075136 Oct 9 02:17 4.7-disc2.iso > -rw-rw-r-- 1 ftpuser ftpusers 654835712 Oct 8 05:13 4.7-disc3.iso > -rw-rw-r-- 1 ftpuser ftpusers 648937472 Oct 8 05:47 4.7-disc4.iso > -rw-rw-r-- 1 ftpuser ftpusers 198672384 Oct 9 18:07 4.7-mini.iso > -rw-rw-r-- 1 ftpuser ftpusers 274 Oct 9 18:19 CHECKSUM.MD5 > 226 Listing completed. > > So maybe the distribution files on ftp-master had mode 664 to begin > with? > > --lyndon > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-hubs" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hubs" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hubs Fri Oct 11 12:34:45 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-hubs@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 631A137B401 for ; Fri, 11 Oct 2002 12:34:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: from bessel.tekniikka.turkuamk.fi (bessel.tekniikka.turkuamk.fi [193.166.133.10]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CE0FC43E97 for ; Fri, 11 Oct 2002 12:34:40 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from eyurtese@bessel.tekniikka.turkuamk.fi) Received: from localhost (eyurtese@localhost) by bessel.tekniikka.turkuamk.fi (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id WAA49436; Fri, 11 Oct 2002 22:34:24 +0300 Date: Fri, 11 Oct 2002 22:34:24 +0300 (WET) From: Evren Yurtesen To: Will Mitayai Keeso Rowe , Dan Langille Cc: freebsd-hubs@freebsd.org Subject: RE:(2) about @XX.freebsd.org email account policies...??? In-Reply-To: <003501c2712b$4da0a020$51983041@shadow> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-hubs@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I was thinking of this little bit. I have came to the conclusion that perhaps its not right to give free email accounts with @xx.freebsd.org =) I agree that having an email account @freebsd.org domain is a privilege and requires hard working. Thus not many people can have this privilege although they might contribute to the FreeBSD project in some way. I also think that having an @xx.freebsd.org email account is a privilege but it is not so big deal since it has more of a local significance when its compared by having an @freeebsd.org email account which would have a global significance. The suggestion that the people who wants to have an @xx.freebsd.org email address should apply to the freebsd team directly is great but again it would require some amount of processing on the freebsd team. But instead if we define some guidelines on giving @xx.freebsd.org email addresses perhaps the people who administrate DNS records of xx.freebsd.org domains could also administrate the distribution of local email accounts of the people who contribute to the project in some way in their local region. The FreeBSD user base is obviously growing. We cant expect that the current freebsd team who is handling these email accounts would be sufficient in processing all the requests forever. Localising some operations would be most beneficial. For example if a document is being translated -lets say into Turkish- then the best person who can confirm the validity of the document would be a trusted person who can understand Turkish. So the question arises that who would define the guidelines of giving @xx.freebsd.org email accounts etc. for the local sites? Any contact emails etc. that you can inform or provide? Thanks Evren On Fri, 11 Oct 2002, Will Mitayai Keeso Rowe wrote: > I have to admit that this makes me a bit uncomfortable. > > I do have MX records for ca.freebsd.org, but that's for purposes of > administration: "hostmaster", "abuse" and "webmaster". > > To list my email as, say, mitayai@ca.freebsd.org, might give the false > impression to the public that I'm more part of the freebsd team than I > am. There is a certain 'prestige' that comes with a freebsd.org address > (which I have yet to deserve) as well, I think, a responsibility as a > visible, respected member of the community. > > So, I'm suggesting that use of a XX.freebsd.org addess be discouraged, > and that if anyone wants a freebsd.org address they apply straight to > the freebsd team directly themselves. > > -Mit > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-freebsd-hubs@FreeBSD.ORG > [mailto:owner-freebsd-hubs@FreeBSD.ORG] On Behalf Of Evren Yurtesen > Sent: October 11, 2002 8:53 AM > To: freebsd-hubs@freebsd.org > Subject: about @XX.freebsd.org email account policies...??? > > > Hi > > I am currently hosting dns entries for tr.freebsd.org and > www.tr.freebsd.org web site. > > I was wondering what kind of policies the freebsd project > has about email addresses used by subdomains like @XX.freebsd.org > > I ask this because one of my friend who is affiliated with > http://www.enderunix.org/ suggested that they want to give some email > addresses to some people who are developing software, making > documentation > in Turkish etc. for FreeBSD in Turkey. So I should set the MX records... > > I just felt inclined to ask about the freebsd project's policies about > this just to be on the safe side. > > If you know anybody who can answer this question or if you can give a > quick answer, it would be nice. > > Thanks > Evren > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-hubs" in the body of the message > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hubs" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hubs Fri Oct 11 13:36:57 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-hubs@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ACC5237B401 for ; Fri, 11 Oct 2002 13:36:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: from m20.unixathome.org (m20.unixathome.org [66.11.168.227]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 231E943E77 for ; Fri, 11 Oct 2002 13:36:56 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dan@langille.org) Received: by m20.unixathome.org (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 6A7D97A11; Fri, 11 Oct 2002 16:34:22 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by m20.unixathome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 651161F03; Fri, 11 Oct 2002 16:34:22 -0400 (EDT) Date: Fri, 11 Oct 2002 16:34:22 -0400 (EDT) From: Dan Langille X-X-Sender: dan@m20.unixathome.org To: Evren Yurtesen Cc: Will Mitayai Keeso Rowe , Subject: RE:(2) about @XX.freebsd.org email account policies...??? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20021011162850.P87290-100000@m20.unixathome.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-hubs@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Fri, 11 Oct 2002, Evren Yurtesen wrote: > I was thinking of this little bit. I have came to the conclusion that > perhaps its not right to give free email accounts with @xx.freebsd.org =) Free? You mean charge for them? ;) I'm in charge of nz.freebsd.org. I never gave out addresses at first. I was very leary of doing that. Then I started to delegate the work. I gave ftp@ to the guy in charge of the ftp server. But I never gave someone an email address unless they needed it to do their job. e.g. I didn't give my mate Tom one just so he could be part of the domain. > The suggestion that the people who wants to have an @xx.freebsd.org email > address should apply to the freebsd team directly is great but again > it would require some amount of processing on the freebsd team. But > instead if we define some guidelines on giving @xx.freebsd.org email > addresses perhaps the people who administrate DNS records of > xx.freebsd.org domains could also administrate the distribution of local > email accounts of the people who contribute to the project in some way in > their local region. The people in charge of xx.freebsd.org already have charge of email for that domain. It's a characteristic of DNS. > So the question arises that who would define the guidelines of giving > @xx.freebsd.org email accounts etc. for the local sites? Any contact > emails etc. that you can inform or provide? IMHO, those that do the work, get the addresses. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hubs" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hubs Fri Oct 11 14:12: 4 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-hubs@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2025037B42C for ; Fri, 11 Oct 2002 14:12:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: from bessel.tekniikka.turkuamk.fi (bessel.tekniikka.turkuamk.fi [193.166.133.10]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 87D0943E6E for ; Fri, 11 Oct 2002 14:12:01 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from eyurtese@bessel.tekniikka.turkuamk.fi) Received: from localhost (eyurtese@localhost) by bessel.tekniikka.turkuamk.fi (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id AAA81370; Sat, 12 Oct 2002 00:11:51 +0300 Date: Sat, 12 Oct 2002 00:11:51 +0300 (WET) From: Evren Yurtesen To: Dan Langille Cc: Will Mitayai Keeso Rowe , freebsd-hubs@freebsd.org Subject: RE:(2) about @XX.freebsd.org email account policies...??? In-Reply-To: <20021011162850.P87290-100000@m20.unixathome.org> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-hubs@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Fri, 11 Oct 2002, Dan Langille wrote: > On Fri, 11 Oct 2002, Evren Yurtesen wrote: > > > I was thinking of this little bit. I have came to the conclusion that > > perhaps its not right to give free email accounts with @xx.freebsd.org =) > > Free? You mean charge for them? ;) > > I'm in charge of nz.freebsd.org. I never gave out addresses at first. I > was very leary of doing that. Then I started to delegate the work. > I gave ftp@ to the guy in charge of the ftp server. But I never gave > someone an email address unless they needed it to do their job. e.g. I > didn't give my mate Tom one just so he could be part of the domain. How do you define that somebody is doing a job worthy of getting an @nz.freebsd.org email? > > The suggestion that the people who wants to have an @xx.freebsd.org email > > address should apply to the freebsd team directly is great but again > > it would require some amount of processing on the freebsd team. But > > instead if we define some guidelines on giving @xx.freebsd.org email > > addresses perhaps the people who administrate DNS records of > > xx.freebsd.org domains could also administrate the distribution of local > > email accounts of the people who contribute to the project in some way in > > their local region. > > The people in charge of xx.freebsd.org already have charge of email > for that domain. It's a characteristic of DNS. Yes indeed, but until now there havent been any clear manual which defines how to use the power which comes by being in charge of xx.freebsd.org. At least, I havent seen any documentation which covers email addresses related to xx.freebsd.org domains. If there were, then we wouldnt be discussing about whether it is advisable to give emails of xx.freebsd.org domains or not. We would just know the answer, I presume. ;) Since this seems to be a subject which needs to be addressed. I suggest that the freebsd team should define a set of rules about administration of these domains' email distribution or we should make a set of rules and propose to the FreeBSD team. Which in return would be published at FreeBSD web site for the review of domain administrators now and in future. > > So the question arises that who would define the guidelines of giving > > @xx.freebsd.org email accounts etc. for the local sites? Any contact > > emails etc. that you can inform or provide? > > IMHO, those that do the work, get the addresses. As I said, the word "work" can be interpreted in many ways. What kind of work grants the person to get the address? Is there anywhere a written definition for this? Evren To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hubs" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hubs Fri Oct 11 14:31:12 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-hubs@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4E8BD37B401 for ; Fri, 11 Oct 2002 14:31:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: from m20.unixathome.org (m20.unixathome.org [66.11.168.227]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 49F5C43E9E for ; Fri, 11 Oct 2002 14:31:10 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dan@langille.org) Received: by m20.unixathome.org (Postfix, from userid 1001) id E25487A11; Fri, 11 Oct 2002 17:28:36 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by m20.unixathome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5CA3B1F03; Fri, 11 Oct 2002 17:28:36 -0400 (EDT) Date: Fri, 11 Oct 2002 17:28:36 -0400 (EDT) From: Dan Langille X-X-Sender: dan@m20.unixathome.org To: Evren Yurtesen Cc: Will Mitayai Keeso Rowe , Subject: RE:(2) about @XX.freebsd.org email account policies...??? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20021011172544.S87290-100000@m20.unixathome.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-hubs@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Sat, 12 Oct 2002, Evren Yurtesen wrote: > On Fri, 11 Oct 2002, Dan Langille wrote: > > > On Fri, 11 Oct 2002, Evren Yurtesen wrote: > > > > > I was thinking of this little bit. I have came to the conclusion that > > > perhaps its not right to give free email accounts with @xx.freebsd.org =) > > > > Free? You mean charge for them? ;) > > > > I'm in charge of nz.freebsd.org. I never gave out addresses at first. I > > was very leary of doing that. Then I started to delegate the work. > > I gave ftp@ to the guy in charge of the ftp server. But I never gave > > someone an email address unless they needed it to do their job. e.g. I > > didn't give my mate Tom one just so he could be part of the domain. > > How do you define that somebody is doing a job worthy of getting an > @nz.freebsd.org email? Isn't my example of ftp@ sufficient? I redirected ftp@ to joe@example.org because Joe was running ftp.nz.freebsd.org. I never gave Joe a joe at nz.freebsd.org email address. > > > So the question arises that who would define the guidelines of giving > > > @xx.freebsd.org email accounts etc. for the local sites? Any contact > > > emails etc. that you can inform or provide? > > > > IMHO, those that do the work, get the addresses. > > As I said, the word "work" can be interpreted in many ways. What kind of > work grants the person to get the address? In my case, it's quite clear. > Is there anywhere a written definition for this? Not to my knowledge. Is it a problem? If it's not a problem, do we need a solution? To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hubs" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hubs Fri Oct 11 16:33:39 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-hubs@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 16BA237B401; Fri, 11 Oct 2002 16:33:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: from anduril.ncsa.uiuc.edu (anduril.ncsa.uiuc.edu [141.142.102.8]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C39C943E7B; Fri, 11 Oct 2002 16:33:38 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jdugan@anduril.ncsa.uiuc.edu) Received: by anduril.ncsa.uiuc.edu (Postfix, from userid 501) id C7F1C1DD823; Fri, 11 Oct 2002 18:33:46 -0500 (CDT) Date: Fri, 11 Oct 2002 18:33:46 -0500 From: Jon Dugan To: David O'Brien Cc: hubs@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: HTTP access to ftpX.freebsd.org Message-ID: <20021011233346.GA22018@ncsa.uiuc.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20021010161532.GA5567@dragon.nuxi.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4i Sender: owner-freebsd-hubs@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org i've been planning to add this for ftp12 for sometime, but i haven't ever quite gotten around to it. i'll probably turn it on in the next couple of weeks. i've been planning to mirror some websites (freebsd and postrgresql probably) as well on that machine so i need to think a bit about how i want to handle that. On Thu, Oct 10, 2002 at 09:15:32AM -0700, David O'Brien wrote: > Are any of the ftp*.freebsd.org servers willing to also offer files thru > the HTTP protocol besides ftp? Corporate firewalls are getting more and > more hostile to FTP; but of course there is no way they can't not support > "web". > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-hubs" in the body of the message -- Jon Dugan | Senior Network Engineer, NCSA Network Research jdugan@ncsa.uiuc.edu | 269 CAB, 605 E Springfield, Champaign, IL 61820 217-244-7715 | http://www.ncsa.uiuc.edu/~jdugan/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hubs" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hubs Fri Oct 11 19:50:20 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-hubs@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 047CC37B401 for ; Fri, 11 Oct 2002 19:50:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: from veil.qala.com.sg (veil.qala.com.sg [210.193.2.44]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C9F9343E65 for ; Fri, 11 Oct 2002 19:50:18 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mirror-maintainer@mirror.averse.net) Received: from spam.averse.net (mirror [210.193.6.237] (may be forged)) by veil.qala.com.sg (8.11.3/8.11.3) with ESMTP id g9C2o7328343 for ; Sat, 12 Oct 2002 10:50:09 +0800 (SGT) Date: Sat, 12 Oct 2002 10:49:58 +0800 (SGT) From: mirror-maintainer@mirror.averse.net X-X-Sender: pyng@spam.averse.net To: freebsd-hubs@freebsd.org Subject: RE:(2) about @XX.freebsd.org email account policies...??? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-hubs@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Sat, 12 Oct 2002, Evren Yurtesen wrote: > Yes indeed, but until now there havent been any clear manual which defines > how to use the power which comes by being in charge of xx.freebsd.org. At > least, I havent seen any documentation which covers email addresses > related to xx.freebsd.org domains. > If there were, then we wouldnt be discussing about whether it is advisable > to give emails of xx.freebsd.org domains or not. We would just know the > answer, I presume. ;) > Since this seems to be a subject which needs to be addressed. I suggest > that the freebsd team should define a set of rules about administration of > these domains' email distribution or we should make a set of rules and > propose to the FreeBSD team. Which in return would be published at FreeBSD > web site for the review of domain administrators now and in future. I cannot agree more. In particular, I've seen vanity hosts of the form .xx.freebsd.org appear on irc. Common sense ought to prevail, but where that is lacking, a set of guidelines should suffice to show the way. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hubs" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hubs Sat Oct 12 0:30:50 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-hubs@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DF31037B401 for ; Sat, 12 Oct 2002 00:30:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gaultopia.org (yttrium.4ph.com [66.197.0.170]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A125643E9C for ; Sat, 12 Oct 2002 00:30:48 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from eng@gaultopia.org) Received: (qmail 39479 invoked by uid 1001); 12 Oct 2002 07:30:46 -0000 Date: Sat, 12 Oct 2002 03:30:46 -0400 From: Erik Gault To: Murray Stokely Cc: hubs@FreeBSD.org, re@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: 4.7 Download Statistics Message-ID: <20021012073046.GE29449@yttrium.gaultopia.org> References: <20021010082732.G1982@freebsdmall.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20021010082732.G1982@freebsdmall.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.1i Sender: owner-freebsd-hubs@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org hm, i'll see if i can put something together for ftp2 at least. we keep full ftp logs, ought to be some reasonable way to parse that out. i'll get http set up too. erik On Thu, Oct 10, 2002 at 08:27:32AM -0700, Murray Stokely wrote: > I'm very interested in getting download statistics about 4.7-RELEASE. > In the old days with wcarchive.cdrom.com, it was very easy to track > the increasing popularity of FreeBSD through downloads. This would be > a lot more work now with so many mirrors spread around the world, but > I think it is certainly worth while. > > Does anyone have any bright ideas about how best to collect and > tabulate the FTP logs for 4.7 from tens of different servers and > generate a unified download report? I don't have much time to > actually help with this endeavor, but it "Sure would be nice", and it > couldn't take more than a page of Perl and lots of coordination with > the various site admins. > > - Murray > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-hubs" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hubs" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hubs Sat Oct 12 6:56:55 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-hubs@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1621937B401 for ; Sat, 12 Oct 2002 06:56:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: from finland.ispro.net.tr (finland.ispro.net.tr [217.21.68.1]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7949C43EB2 for ; Sat, 12 Oct 2002 06:56:52 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from yurtesen@ispro.net.tr) Received: (from root@localhost) by finland.ispro.net.tr (8.12.6/8.12.5) id g9CDufTi085000; Sat, 12 Oct 2002 16:56:41 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from yurtesen@ispro.net.tr) Received: from finland.ispro.net.tr (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by finland.ispro.net.tr (8.12.6/8.12.5av) with ESMTP id g9CDue9K084995; Sat, 12 Oct 2002 16:56:40 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from yurtesen@ispro.net.tr) Received: from localhost (yurtesen@localhost) by finland.ispro.net.tr (8.12.6/8.12.6/Submit) with ESMTP id g9CDudU9084991; Sat, 12 Oct 2002 16:56:39 +0300 (EEST) X-Authentication-Warning: finland.ispro.net.tr: yurtesen owned process doing -bs Date: Sat, 12 Oct 2002 16:56:39 +0300 (EEST) From: Evren Yurtesen To: mirror-maintainer@mirror.averse.net Cc: freebsd-hubs@freebsd.org Subject: RE:(3) about @XX.freebsd.org email account policies...??? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20021012164829.S84015-100000@finland.ispro.net.tr> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Virus-Scanned: by IsproNET Sender: owner-freebsd-hubs@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Sat, 12 Oct 2002 mirror-maintainer@mirror.averse.net wrote: > On Sat, 12 Oct 2002, Evren Yurtesen wrote: > > > Yes indeed, but until now there havent been any clear manual which defines > > how to use the power which comes by being in charge of xx.freebsd.org. At > > least, I havent seen any documentation which covers email addresses > > related to xx.freebsd.org domains. > > If there were, then we wouldnt be discussing about whether it is advisable > > to give emails of xx.freebsd.org domains or not. We would just know the > > answer, I presume. ;) > > Since this seems to be a subject which needs to be addressed. I suggest > > that the freebsd team should define a set of rules about administration of > > these domains' email distribution or we should make a set of rules and > > propose to the FreeBSD team. Which in return would be published at FreeBSD > > web site for the review of domain administrators now and in future. > > I cannot agree more. In particular, I've seen vanity hosts of the form > .xx.freebsd.org appear on irc. Common sense ought to prevail, but > where that is lacking, a set of guidelines should suffice to show the way. Yes but who will do the work of preparing the guidelines.. If there are some people subscribed to this this who has any suggestions about what the guidelines should be, then we should start collecting their ideas and perhaps make a list and then open it for voting which ones should be included in the guidelines and which shouldnt? and who should collect the data? Evren To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hubs" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hubs Sat Oct 12 7:12:31 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-hubs@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7054A37B401 for ; Sat, 12 Oct 2002 07:12:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lurza.secnetix.de (lurza.secnetix.de [212.66.1.130]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8CF9A43E7B for ; Sat, 12 Oct 2002 07:12:29 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from olli@lurza.secnetix.de) Received: from lurza.secnetix.de (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by lurza.secnetix.de (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g9CECSmC008006 for ; Sat, 12 Oct 2002 16:12:28 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from oliver.fromme@secnetix.de) Received: (from olli@localhost) by lurza.secnetix.de (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g9CECS00008004 for freebsd-hubs@FreeBSD.ORG; Sat, 12 Oct 2002 16:12:28 +0200 (CEST) From: Oliver Fromme Message-Id: <200210121412.g9CECS00008004@lurza.secnetix.de> Subject: Re: (3) about @XX.freebsd.org email account policies...??? To: freebsd-hubs@FreeBSD.ORG Date: Sat, 12 Oct 2002 16:12:28 +0200 (CEST) Reply-To: freebsd-hubs@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <20021012164829.S84015-100000@finland.ispro.net.tr> from "Evren Yurtesen" at Oct 12, 2002 04:56:39 PM X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.5 PL3] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-freebsd-hubs@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org There was a question in one of the mailing lists some time ago (I think it was on the questions list). Someone asked for a mail alias or forward @freebsd.org. It was purely for vanity reasons, obviously. The answer was "no", of course, and that only those people get an account (and email) there who require it for strictly _technical_ reasons, such as comitters, maintainers of the actual hardware, and people who have to be contactable through aliases like postmaster@, hostmaster@, webmaster@ etc. I think that was a pretty clear explanation, and I don't see a reason why the same policy shouldn't be adopted for subdomains xx.freebsd.org as well. Regards Oliver -- Oliver Fromme, secnetix GmbH & Co KG, Oettingenstr. 2, 80538 München Any opinions expressed in this message may be personal to the author and may not necessarily reflect the opinions of secnetix in any way. "All that we see or seem is just a dream within a dream" (E. A. Poe) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hubs" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hubs Sat Oct 12 7:51:14 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-hubs@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6E1DC37B404 for ; Sat, 12 Oct 2002 07:51:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: from finland.ispro.net.tr (finland.ispro.net.tr [217.21.68.1]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7259E43EDE for ; Sat, 12 Oct 2002 07:51:10 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from yurtesen@ispro.net.tr) Received: (from root@localhost) by finland.ispro.net.tr (8.12.6/8.12.5) id g9CEp5xJ090406 for freebsd-hubs@freebsd.org; Sat, 12 Oct 2002 17:51:05 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from yurtesen@ispro.net.tr) Received: from finland.ispro.net.tr (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by finland.ispro.net.tr (8.12.6/8.12.5av) with ESMTP id g9CEp49K090397 for ; Sat, 12 Oct 2002 17:51:04 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from yurtesen@ispro.net.tr) Received: from localhost (yurtesen@localhost) by finland.ispro.net.tr (8.12.6/8.12.6/Submit) with ESMTP id g9CEp4IK090394 for ; Sat, 12 Oct 2002 17:51:04 +0300 (EEST) X-Authentication-Warning: finland.ispro.net.tr: yurtesen owned process doing -bs Date: Sat, 12 Oct 2002 17:51:04 +0300 (EEST) From: Evren Yurtesen To: freebsd-hubs@freebsd.org Subject: Re: (3) about @XX.freebsd.org email account policies...??? In-Reply-To: <200210121412.g9CECS00008004@lurza.secnetix.de> Message-ID: <20021012173407.B84015-100000@finland.ispro.net.tr> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=X-UNKNOWN Content-Transfer-Encoding: QUOTED-PRINTABLE X-Virus-Scanned: by IsproNET Sender: owner-freebsd-hubs@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I see your point that the @freebsd.org mail addresses are for the people who work for the FreeBSD project deeply. But there are still many people who contribute to the project in some way, even if their contribution is a handbook page or less. Then wouldnt it be nice that they get something in return? Obviously giving @freebsd.org address would be too much, but giving an @xx.freebsd.org address might be possible. Plus the use of these email addresses would let FreeBSD domain pop up on more mailing lists, web searches etc. Which would in return be a free advertisement for FreeBSD and hopefully increase the number of the people who thinks 'what is this freebsd?' =3D) I dont suggest that we give service like hotmail =3D) But, give these addresses to selected people who contribute to the project but the selection criteria might be relaxed little bit. For example these emails might be given to people who write documentation to FreeBSD, or to people who prove to be using FreeBSD as the main server or workstation operating system in their company or in their products. Thus contributing to FreeBSD even though they dont develop FreeBSD operating system. Evren On Sat, 12 Oct 2002, Oliver Fromme wrote: > > There was a question in one of the mailing lists some time ago > (I think it was on the questions list). Someone asked for a > mail alias or forward @freebsd.org. It was purely for vanity > reasons, obviously. The answer was "no", of course, and that > only those people get an account (and email) there who require > it for strictly _technical_ reasons, such as comitters, > maintainers of the actual hardware, and people who have to be > contactable through aliases like postmaster@, hostmaster@, > webmaster@ etc. > > I think that was a pretty clear explanation, and I don't see > a reason why the same policy shouldn't be adopted for subdomains > xx.freebsd.org as well. > > Regards > Oliver > > -- > Oliver Fromme, secnetix GmbH & Co KG, Oettingenstr. 2, 80538 M=FCnchen > Any opinions expressed in this message may be personal to the author > and may not necessarily reflect the opinions of secnetix in any way. > > "All that we see or seem is just a dream within a dream" (E. A. Poe) > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-hubs" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hubs" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hubs Sat Oct 12 8: 8: 2 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-hubs@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B19FB37B401 for ; Sat, 12 Oct 2002 08:08:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: from bast.unixathome.org (bast.unixathome.org [216.187.105.150]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1989943E6E for ; Sat, 12 Oct 2002 08:08:01 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dan@langille.org) Received: from wocker (wocker.unixathome.org [192.168.0.99]) by bast.unixathome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 041453F4B; Sat, 12 Oct 2002 11:08:00 -0400 (EDT) From: "Dan Langille" To: Oliver Fromme Date: Sat, 12 Oct 2002 11:08:22 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: (3) about @XX.freebsd.org email account policies...??? Cc: hubs@FreeBSD.ORG Message-ID: <3DA802A6.18391.2EB65A9C@localhost> In-reply-to: <200210121412.g9CECS00008004@lurza.secnetix.de> References: <20021012164829.S84015-100000@finland.ispro.net.tr> from "Evren Yurtesen" at Oct 12, 2002 04:56:39 PM X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v4.02) Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-description: Mail message body Sender: owner-freebsd-hubs@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On 12 Oct 2002 at 16:12, Oliver Fromme wrote: > I think that was a pretty clear explanation, and I don't see > a reason why the same policy shouldn't be adopted for subdomains > xx.freebsd.org as well. I agree: -- Dan Langille I'm looking for a computer job: http://www.freebsddiary.org/dan_langille.php To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hubs" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hubs Sat Oct 12 8: 8:24 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-hubs@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7186137B401 for ; Sat, 12 Oct 2002 08:08:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: from bast.unixathome.org (bast.unixathome.org [216.187.105.150]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E83D743EC5 for ; Sat, 12 Oct 2002 08:08:22 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dan@langille.org) Received: from wocker (wocker.unixathome.org [192.168.0.99]) by bast.unixathome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 616973F4B for ; Sat, 12 Oct 2002 11:08:22 -0400 (EDT) From: "Dan Langille" To: hubs@FreeBSD.ORG Date: Sat, 12 Oct 2002 11:08:45 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: (3) about @XX.freebsd.org email account policies...??? Message-ID: <3DA802BD.24459.2EB6B201@localhost> References: <200210121412.g9CECS00008004@lurza.secnetix.de> In-reply-to: <20021012173407.B84015-100000@finland.ispro.net.tr> X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v4.02) Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-description: Mail message body Sender: owner-freebsd-hubs@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On 12 Oct 2002 at 17:51, Evren Yurtesen wrote: > But there are still many people who contribute to the project in some way, > even if their contribution is a handbook page or less. Then wouldnt it be > nice that they get something in return? Obviously giving @freebsd.org > address would be too much, but giving an @xx.freebsd.org address might be > possible. Sure, it might be nice, but I don't think it should be done, just because it's nice and they have contributed. > For example these emails might be given to people who write documentation > to FreeBSD, or to people who prove to be using FreeBSD as the main server > or workstation operating system in their company or in their products. > Thus contributing to FreeBSD even though they dont develop FreeBSD > operating system. There is a contributer page on the website. That's where they can be recognized. -- Dan Langille I'm looking for a computer job: http://www.freebsddiary.org/dan_langille.php To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hubs" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hubs Sat Oct 12 8: 9: 9 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-hubs@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CA4F237B401 for ; Sat, 12 Oct 2002 08:09:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gaultopia.org (yttrium.4ph.com [66.197.0.170]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6612643E88 for ; Sat, 12 Oct 2002 08:09:08 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from eng@gaultopia.org) Received: (qmail 54021 invoked by uid 1001); 12 Oct 2002 15:09:03 -0000 Date: Sat, 12 Oct 2002 11:09:03 -0400 From: Erik Gault To: hubs@freebsd.org Subject: ftp2 now supports http Message-ID: <20021012150902.GI29449@yttrium.gaultopia.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.1i Sender: owner-freebsd-hubs@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org yep To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hubs" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hubs Sat Oct 12 8:13:29 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-hubs@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8FF0037B401 for ; Sat, 12 Oct 2002 08:13:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gaultopia.org (yttrium.4ph.com [66.197.0.170]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EC24143ECD for ; Sat, 12 Oct 2002 08:13:27 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from eng@gaultopia.org) Received: (qmail 54074 invoked by uid 1001); 12 Oct 2002 15:13:27 -0000 Date: Sat, 12 Oct 2002 11:13:27 -0400 From: Erik Gault To: hubs@freebsd.org Subject: pub/FreeBSD/index.html Message-ID: <20021012151327.GJ29449@yttrium.gaultopia.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.1i Sender: owner-freebsd-hubs@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org sorry if this has been mentioned already, but pub/FreeBSD/index.html is out of date To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hubs" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hubs Sat Oct 12 10: 6:46 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-hubs@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 25FE637B401 for ; Sat, 12 Oct 2002 10:06:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail.freebsdmall.com (unknown [66.220.2.194]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CA31143E9C for ; Sat, 12 Oct 2002 10:06:45 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from murray@freebsdmall.com) Received: by mail.freebsdmall.com (Postfix, from userid 2074) id 7F5312E89D; Sat, 12 Oct 2002 10:05:24 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sat, 12 Oct 2002 10:05:24 -0700 From: Murray Stokely To: Erik Gault Cc: hubs@freebsd.org Subject: Re: pub/FreeBSD/index.html Message-ID: <20021012100524.A84288@freebsdmall.com> References: <20021012151327.GJ29449@yttrium.gaultopia.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5.1i In-Reply-To: <20021012151327.GJ29449@yttrium.gaultopia.org>; from e@gaultopia.org on Sat, Oct 12, 2002 at 11:13:27AM -0400 X-GPG-Key-ID: 1024D/0E451F7D X-GPG-Key-Fingerprint: E2CA 411D DD44 53FD BB4B 3CB5 B4D7 10A2 0E45 1F7D Sender: owner-freebsd-hubs@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Mind if I just remove it? - Murray On Sat, Oct 12, 2002 at 11:13:27AM -0400, Erik Gault wrote: > sorry if this has been mentioned already, but pub/FreeBSD/index.html is out of > date > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-hubs" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hubs" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hubs Sat Oct 12 10:10:26 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-hubs@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 63AFE37B401; Sat, 12 Oct 2002 10:10:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail.freebsdmall.com (unknown [66.220.2.194]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0712943EEF; Sat, 12 Oct 2002 10:10:24 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from murray@freebsdmall.com) Received: by mail.freebsdmall.com (Postfix, from userid 2074) id 34AC62E89D; Sat, 12 Oct 2002 10:09:04 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sat, 12 Oct 2002 10:09:04 -0700 From: Murray Stokely To: Erik Gault Cc: Murray Stokely , hubs@FreeBSD.org, re@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: 4.7 Download Statistics Message-ID: <20021012100903.B84288@freebsdmall.com> References: <20021010082732.G1982@freebsdmall.com> <20021012073046.GE29449@yttrium.gaultopia.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5.1i In-Reply-To: <20021012073046.GE29449@yttrium.gaultopia.org>; from e@gaultopia.org on Sat, Oct 12, 2002 at 03:30:46AM -0400 X-GPG-Key-ID: 1024D/0E451F7D X-GPG-Key-Fingerprint: E2CA 411D DD44 53FD BB4B 3CB5 B4D7 10A2 0E45 1F7D Sender: owner-freebsd-hubs@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Ok, I will go ahead an write a script to process the different logs and generate a report. I'm interested primarily in the first week after the release announcement went out. Please keep your logs around for one week, and then send them to me (or place them up for FTP/HTTP somewhere, since I presume they'll be quite large) at the end of the week. Any reasonable log format will be sufficient. Thanks, - Murray On Sat, Oct 12, 2002 at 03:30:46AM -0400, Erik Gault wrote: > hm, i'll see if i can put something together for ftp2 at least. we keep full > ftp logs, ought to be some reasonable way to parse that out. i'll get http set up too. > > erik > > On Thu, Oct 10, 2002 at 08:27:32AM -0700, Murray Stokely wrote: > > I'm very interested in getting download statistics about 4.7-RELEASE. > > In the old days with wcarchive.cdrom.com, it was very easy to track > > the increasing popularity of FreeBSD through downloads. This would be > > a lot more work now with so many mirrors spread around the world, but > > I think it is certainly worth while. > > > > Does anyone have any bright ideas about how best to collect and > > tabulate the FTP logs for 4.7 from tens of different servers and > > generate a unified download report? I don't have much time to > > actually help with this endeavor, but it "Sure would be nice", and it > > couldn't take more than a page of Perl and lots of coordination with > > the various site admins. > > > > - Murray > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > > with "unsubscribe freebsd-hubs" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hubs" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hubs Sat Oct 12 12:29: 8 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-hubs@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 750DD37B401 for ; Sat, 12 Oct 2002 12:29:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gaultopia.org (yttrium.4ph.com [66.197.0.170]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CBB7943EA3 for ; Sat, 12 Oct 2002 12:29:06 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from eng@gaultopia.org) Received: (qmail 56641 invoked by uid 1001); 12 Oct 2002 19:29:06 -0000 Date: Sat, 12 Oct 2002 15:29:05 -0400 From: Erik Gault To: Murray Stokely Cc: hubs@freebsd.org Subject: Re: pub/FreeBSD/index.html Message-ID: <20021012192905.GK29449@yttrium.gaultopia.org> References: <20021012151327.GJ29449@yttrium.gaultopia.org> <20021012100524.A84288@freebsdmall.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20021012100524.A84288@freebsdmall.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.1i Sender: owner-freebsd-hubs@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org i was hoping you'd say that =). On Sat, Oct 12, 2002 at 10:05:24AM -0700, Murray Stokely wrote: > Mind if I just remove it? > > - Murray > > On Sat, Oct 12, 2002 at 11:13:27AM -0400, Erik Gault wrote: > > sorry if this has been mentioned already, but pub/FreeBSD/index.html is out of > > date > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > > with "unsubscribe freebsd-hubs" in the body of the message > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-hubs" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hubs" in the body of the message