From owner-freebsd-newbies Sun Jan 27 4:42:14 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from web21102.mail.yahoo.com (web21102.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.227.104]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id A23AF37B402 for ; Sun, 27 Jan 2002 04:42:07 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <20020127124207.40205.qmail@web21102.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [62.254.0.5] by web21102.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sun, 27 Jan 2002 04:42:07 PST Date: Sun, 27 Jan 2002 04:42:07 -0800 (PST) From: Hiten Pandya Subject: Re: checksum calculation To: Tadimeti Keshav Cc: newbies@FreeBSD.org In-Reply-To: <20020127045610.700.qmail@web21005.mail.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org hi, > Q: How do I use it to verify the file size? You can produce your own checksums by using the md5(1) utility. The following would be ideal. Supposing you have all your CD images (for 4.4) in one directory: #md5 * | sort > tmp.outfile #cmp tmp.outfile CHECKSUM.MD5 regards, - Hiten - __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Great stuff seeking new owners in Yahoo! Auctions! http://auctions.yahoo.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Sun Jan 27 7:26:15 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from hotmail.com (f267.law9.hotmail.com [64.4.8.142]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8834737B400 for ; Sun, 27 Jan 2002 07:26:12 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Sun, 27 Jan 2002 07:26:12 -0800 Received: from 200.53.254.225 by lw9fd.law9.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Sun, 27 Jan 2002 15:26:09 GMT X-Originating-IP: [200.53.254.225] From: "Dummy dummy5" To: macc@usac.edu.gt, freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Subject: Re: saludos, tengo una duda... Date: Sun, 27 Jan 2002 07:26:09 -0800 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 27 Jan 2002 15:26:12.0558 (UTC) FILETIME=[F3F566E0:01C1A746] Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org take a look at the following link: http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/mail.html In the future, I invite you to use the search command at www.freebsd.org page. >From: "Manuel A. Castañeda Castillo" >To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org >Subject: saludos, tengo una duda... >Date: Thu, 10 Jan 2002 15:00:11 -0600 > > Hola, gusto en saludarte, me llamo Manuel Castañeda, y trabajo como >técnico en computación en una universidad, quisiera si se puede, me >ayuden a conseguir información sobre cómo se configura el sendmail de >freeBSD. > > Por la info ses estaré muy agradecido... > > Hasta luego. > > >To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org >with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message _________________________________________________________________ MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Sun Jan 27 18:16:21 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from smtp015.mail.yahoo.com (smtp015.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.173.59]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 2E82337B400 for ; Sun, 27 Jan 2002 18:16:14 -0800 (PST) Received: from fi-hs26169.zapsurf.com.sg (HELO keshav) (203.169.77.169) by smtp.mail.vip.sc5.yahoo.com with SMTP; 28 Jan 2002 02:16:12 -0000 Message-ID: <001401c1a7a1$d38226e0$a94da9cb@keshav> From: "Keshav Tadimeti" To: Subject: FreeBSD 4.4 packages Date: Mon, 28 Jan 2002 10:16:39 +0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0011_01C1A7E4.E01E2AA0" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0011_01C1A7E4.E01E2AA0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello All, I finally managed to download FreeBSD 4.4 (4 discs). Thanks for all your = help (esp Mark Hepp). I am disapointed with the ports and packages collection in the CDROMs 3& = 4. I particularly want KDevelop (the IDE for KDE development). The = number of ports/packages is limited!! No JDK!! 1. DO I have to download this (KDevelop) seperately? Is it available as = an ISO image? 2. Also does anyone know how to UPGRADE from 4.3 to 4.4. I went through = the INSTALL document in the installation CD ROM. THere are parts that I = find difficult. He says configuration files in /etc must be backed up and restored. = Since I am new to all this, I am hesitant to do this. Can some one (with = some time to spare) list out what (s)he did? Thank you WIth regards Keshav ------=_NextPart_000_0011_01C1A7E4.E01E2AA0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hello All,
I finally managed to download FreeBSD = 4.4 (4=20 discs). Thanks for all your help (esp Mark Hepp).
 
I am disapointed with the ports and = packages=20 collection in the CDROMs 3& 4. I particularly want KDevelop (the IDE = for KDE=20 development). The number of ports/packages is limited!! No = JDK!!
 
1. DO I have to download this = (KDevelop)=20 seperately? Is it available as an ISO image?
 
2. Also does anyone know how to UPGRADE = from 4.3 to=20 4.4. I went through the INSTALL document in the installation CD ROM. = THere are=20 parts that I find difficult.
    He says = configuration files in=20 /etc must be backed up and restored. Since I am new to all this, I am = hesitant=20 to do this. Can some one (with some time to spare) list out =20 what (s)he did?
 
Thank you
WIth regards
Keshav
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Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Sun Jan 27 19:27:58 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mailsrv.otenet.gr (mailsrv.otenet.gr [195.170.0.5]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5BFA437B400 for ; Sun, 27 Jan 2002 19:27:54 -0800 (PST) Received: from hades.hell.gr (patr530-a145.otenet.gr [212.205.215.145]) by mailsrv.otenet.gr (8.11.5/8.11.5) with ESMTP id g0S3RoK18979; Mon, 28 Jan 2002 05:27:51 +0200 (EET) Received: (from charon@localhost) by hades.hell.gr (8.11.6/8.11.6) id g0S3RnP55760; Mon, 28 Jan 2002 05:27:49 +0200 (EET) (envelope-from keramida@freebsd.org) Date: Mon, 28 Jan 2002 05:27:48 +0200 From: Giorgos Keramidas To: Keshav Tadimeti Cc: newbies@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD 4.4 packages Message-ID: <20020128032748.GC47298@hades.hell.gr> References: <001401c1a7a1$d38226e0$a94da9cb@keshav> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <001401c1a7a1$d38226e0$a94da9cb@keshav> User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.25i Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On 2002-01-28 10:16:39, Keshav Tadimeti wrote: > Hello All, > I finally managed to download FreeBSD 4.4 (4 discs). Thanks for all > your help (esp Mark Hepp). Welcome to the FreeBSD side of the world :))) > I am disapointed with the ports and packages collection in the CDROMs > 3& 4. I particularly want KDevelop (the IDE for KDE development). The > number of ports/packages is limited!! No JDK!! The space a single .iso image has is limited, as you know. That is why the ports collection exists. Those packages that can not be included in a single CDROM image, can be downloaded and installed later on, using the /usr/ports framework. > 1. DO I have to download this (KDevelop) seperately? Is it available > as an ISO image? Yes, you can use /usr/ports to download and install many Gigabytes of software. There is not enough space to put ALL the packages in a single CDROM image though :-/ > 2. Also does anyone know how to UPGRADE from 4.3 to 4.4. I went > through the INSTALL document in the installation CD ROM. THere are > parts that I find difficult. Your best bet is not to upgrade using the CDROM installation, but to download the changes to the source with CVSup and rebuild from the source. This has worked for me nicely ever since the first 3.0-RELEASE installation I used to get rid of an old, rusty Slackware Linux installation that I had got tired of upgrading manually. > He says configuration files in /etc must be backed up and restored. > Since I am new to all this, I am hesitant to do this. Can some one > (with some time to spare) list out what (s)he did? As I said, my first installation was from a 3.0-RELEASE CDROM. I had borrowed and copied that from a local FreeBSD user. Then I read the Handbook and the FAQ to find my way around the system. You can only guess how happy I was that installing the doc distribution from the CDROM gave me a full copy of the Handbook and FAQ in /usr/share/doc. The rest was easy. - I read the Handbook section on upgrading from source with CVSup. http://www.FreeBSD.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/cutting-edge.html - I installed cvsup from the ports. You can either install from the ports, or grab the latest cvsup as a package, and install it by running as root: # pkg_install http://people.freebsd.org/~jdp/s1g/i386-nogui/cvsup-16.1e.tgz - I updated my sources in /usr/src using: # cvsup -g -L 2 -h cvsup.de.freebsd.org /usr/share/examples/cvsup/stable-supfile (At the time there wasn't a Greek CVSup mirror, so I used either cvsup.de.freebsd.org or cvsup.dk.freebsd.org for my updates.) - I rebuild everything following the instructions of /usr/src/UPDATING. That's all. If you try to update your system following the steps shown above and you still have questions, you can always ask by posting a message to the freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org list. Have fun upgrading, -- Giorgos Keramidas . . . . . . . . . keramida@{ceid.upatras.gr,freebsd.org} FreeBSD Documentation Project . . . http://www.freebsd.org/docproj/ FreeBSD: The power to serve . . . . http://www.freebsd.org/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Mon Jan 28 12: 0:33 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mail.takas.lt (mail-src.takas.lt [212.59.31.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 73D4837B400 for ; Mon, 28 Jan 2002 12:00:17 -0800 (PST) Received: from praba ([212.59.28.36]) by mail.takas.lt with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.2966); Mon, 28 Jan 2002 22:00:10 +0200 From: "Francisco Borggia" To: Subject: AETHRA ISDN external modem Date: Mon, 28 Jan 2002 21:58:28 -0800 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0004_01C1A846.EB10AC00" X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Importance: Normal X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 28 Jan 2002 20:00:10.0874 (UTC) FILETIME=[645F1DA0:01C1A836] Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0004_01C1A846.EB10AC00 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hello everyone! I am trying to establish PPP with this modem but unsuccesfully. It responds to "term" commands and after beeing connected for some 8 seconds indicates NO_ CARRIER. What are peculiarities of AETHRA modems? With Windows it works normaly.How to make it work with FreeBSD? Any advice is apreciated. 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Linux distros come loaded with apps. Anyways I don't intend to connect to the internet using FreeBSD because at SIngapore ISPs make it possible for Windows and MACS ONLY. This is my sole complaint with FreeBSD - nothing comes with the CD, one has to connect to the internet for everything from ports to upgrading. Thanks. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Everything you'll ever need on one web page from News and Sport to Email and Music Charts http://uk.my.yahoo.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Tue Jan 29 6: 3:19 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mobil.cz (diana.mobil.cz [195.39.16.12]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2A1E337B405 for ; Tue, 29 Jan 2002 06:03:05 -0800 (PST) Received: from ester.mobil.cz (ester.mobil.cz [194.213.62.23]) by mobil.cz (8.11.6/8.11.0) with ESMTP id g0TE33Z27597 for ; Tue, 29 Jan 2002 15:03:03 +0100 Received: from roman.mobil.cz ([10.2.0.89]) by ester.mobil.cz (Lotus Domino Release 5.0.7) with ESMTP id 2002012915001670:2193 ; Tue, 29 Jan 2002 15:00:16 +0100 Received: (from roman@localhost) by roman.mobil.cz (8.11.6/8.11.6) id g0TEDrP75916 for newbies@freebsd.org; Tue, 29 Jan 2002 15:13:53 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from neuhauser@mobil.cz) X-Authentication-Warning: roman.mobil.cz: roman set sender to neuhauser@mobil.cz using -f Date: Tue, 29 Jan 2002 15:13:53 +0100 From: Roman Neuhauser To: newbies@freebsd.org Subject: Re: ports on FreeBSD4.4 Message-ID: <20020129151353.F68986@roman.mobil.cz> Mail-Followup-To: newbies@freebsd.org References: <20020129132410.12323.qmail@web21007.mail.yahoo.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <20020129132410.12323.qmail@web21007.mail.yahoo.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.23i X-MIMETrack: Itemize by SMTP Server on ester/Mobil(Release 5.0.7 |March 21, 2001) at 01/29/2002 03:00:16 PM, Serialize by Router on ester/Mobil(Release 5.0.7 |March 21, 2001) at 01/29/2002 03:00:22 PM, Serialize complete at 01/29/2002 03:00:22 PM Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > Date: Tue, 29 Jan 2002 13:24:10 +0000 (GMT) > From: Tadimeti Keshav > Subject: RE:ports on FreeBSD4.4 > To: newbies@freebsd.org > > Hello George, > Thanks, but I wonder why CD 3 and CD 4 have the very > same ports/packages. Linux distros come loaded with > apps. CDs #3 and #4 aren't the same. Some packages are on both, so that you don't have to shuffle CD's because of dependancies. I imagine this is not actually for your comfort, but because of sysinstall being unable to handle such situation. But it's just a nit IMO. > Anyways I don't intend to connect to the internet > using FreeBSD because at SIngapore ISPs make it > possible for Windows and MACS ONLY. That's a pity. Let them know you prefer different OS. Although, I find it almost unbelievable that all of the ISP's there ban access with other OS's. > This is my sole complaint with FreeBSD - nothing comes > with the CD, one has to connect to the internet for > everything from ports to upgrading. Hehe, this is so untrue... I run a standalone machine with FreeBSD 4.4, and although I don't have internet access on that machine, FreeBSD CD's have catered for vast majority of my installing needs. As for upgrading: do you mean upgrading the base system? Well, the idea that e. g. 4.4 CD's should also contain the 4.5 release certainly looks very innovative... -- FreeBSD 4.4-STABLE 3:06PM up 8 days, 21:30, 14 users, load averages: 0.04, 0.05, 0.04 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Tue Jan 29 8: 5:36 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from support.euronet.nl (support.euronet.nl [194.134.32.134]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E0C4537B43E for ; Tue, 29 Jan 2002 08:05:26 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (marcs@localhost) by support.euronet.nl (8.11.6/8.11.0) with ESMTP id g0TG5P535702 for ; Tue, 29 Jan 2002 17:05:25 +0100 (CET) Date: Tue, 29 Jan 2002 17:05:25 +0100 (CET) From: Marc Smits To: freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Networking In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20020129170307.P89661-100000@support.euronet.nl> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org OK dudes and ladies, what am I missing here? I try to unsubscribe from Freebsd-Newbies. This way: telnet smtp.euronet.nl 25 Trying 194.134.35.141... Connected to smtp.euronet.nl. Escape character is '^]'. 220 smtp0.euronet.nl ESMTP Postfix HELO support.euronet.nl 250 smtp0.euronet.nl mail from: marcs@support.euronet.nl 250 Ok rcpt to: Majordomo@FreeBSD.ORG 250 Ok data 354 End data with . Subject: auth 16779625 unsubscribe freebsd-newbie . 250 Ok: queued as 85C6124663 quit Still Marjordomo does not agree :-( What am I doing wrong? Grtz, Marc To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Tue Jan 29 8:11:54 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from support.euronet.nl (support.euronet.nl [194.134.32.134]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BD87537B400 for ; Tue, 29 Jan 2002 08:11:51 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (marcs@localhost) by support.euronet.nl (8.11.6/8.11.0) with ESMTP id g0TGBoS36621 for ; Tue, 29 Jan 2002 17:11:50 +0100 (CET) Date: Tue, 29 Jan 2002 17:11:50 +0100 (CET) From: Marc Smits To: freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Networking In-Reply-To: <20020129170307.P89661-100000@support.euronet.nl> Message-ID: <20020129171051.O89661-100000@support.euronet.nl> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Eehhhmm oops sorry. forgot to CTRL-U the Subject in my previous mail. Grtz, Marc To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Tue Jan 29 8:24:59 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from phoenix.welearn.com.au (phoenix.welearn.com.au [139.130.44.81]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4357B37B404 for ; Tue, 29 Jan 2002 08:24:53 -0800 (PST) Received: (from sue@localhost) by phoenix.welearn.com.au (8.11.6/8.11.6) id g0TGOjm13413; Wed, 30 Jan 2002 03:24:45 +1100 (EST) (envelope-from sue) Date: Wed, 30 Jan 2002 03:24:45 +1100 From: Sue Blake To: Marc Smits Cc: freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Networking Message-ID: <20020130032445.X662@welearn.com.au> Mail-Followup-To: Sue Blake , Marc Smits , freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG References: <20020129170307.P89661-100000@support.euronet.nl> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <20020129170307.P89661-100000@support.euronet.nl>; from marcs@support.euronet.nl on Tue, Jan 29, 2002 at 05:05:25PM +0100 Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Tue, Jan 29, 2002 at 05:05:25PM +0100, Marc Smits wrote: > > OK dudes and ladies, what am I missing here? I try to unsubscribe from > Freebsd-Newbies. This way: > > telnet smtp.euronet.nl 25 > Trying 194.134.35.141... > Connected to smtp.euronet.nl. > Escape character is '^]'. > 220 smtp0.euronet.nl ESMTP Postfix > HELO support.euronet.nl > 250 smtp0.euronet.nl > mail from: marcs@support.euronet.nl > 250 Ok > rcpt to: Majordomo@FreeBSD.ORG > 250 Ok > data > 354 End data with . > Subject: > auth 16779625 unsubscribe freebsd-newbie > . > 250 Ok: queued as 85C6124663 > quit > > > > Still Marjordomo does not agree :-( > What am I doing wrong? Tried making freebsd-newbies plural? -- Regards, -*Sue*- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Tue Jan 29 10:51:35 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from odin.acuson.com (odin.acuson.com [157.226.230.71]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 55FB137B404 for ; Tue, 29 Jan 2002 10:51:30 -0800 (PST) Received: from mvaexch00.acuson.com ([157.226.230.212]) by odin.acuson.com (Netscape Messaging Server 3.54) with ESMTP id AAA178B; Tue, 29 Jan 2002 10:51:28 -0800 Received: by mvaexch00.acuson.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Tue, 29 Jan 2002 10:46:48 -0800 Received: from there (dhcp-46-100.acuson.com [157.226.46.100]) by mvaexch01.acuson.com with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2653.13) id CJVD133B; Tue, 29 Jan 2002 10:42:20 -0800 From: Johnson David To: Tadimeti Keshav , newbies@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Organization: Acuson Subject: Re: ports on FreeBSD4.4 Date: Tue, 29 Jan 2002 10:51:23 -0800 X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.3.2] References: <20020129132410.12323.qmail@web21007.mail.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <20020129132410.12323.qmail@web21007.mail.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-Id: <20020129185130.55FB137B404@hub.freebsd.org> Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Tuesday 29 January 2002 05:24 am, Tadimeti Keshav wrote: > Hello George, > Thanks, but I wonder why CD 3 and CD 4 have the very > same ports/packages. Linux distros come loaded with > apps. FreeBSD *does* come loaded with apps. Tons on CD1, and tons more on 3 and 4. I don't know why you think 3 and 4 have the same packages. There is some duplication, but not much. The duplication is resolve dependencies (anything that any package on CD4 needs will be on CD4). FreeBSD comes loaded with apps!!! Just look at it and you will see! > Anyways I don't intend to connect to the internet > using FreeBSD because at SIngapore ISPs make it > possible for Windows and MACS ONLY. My suspicion is that you can indeed connect with FreeBSD. They won't *support* FreeBSD. They won't help you set up your connection if they know you're not using their preferred OS. But you should be able to connect. Just try it. > This is my sole complaint with FreeBSD - nothing comes > with the CD, one has to connect to the internet for > everything from ports to upgrading. CD 1 has packages. 3 and 4 have even more. Take a look. As for upgrading, I don't quite follow you. Are you saying that there are Linux distros out there that will allow you to upgrade without an internet connection or waiting for the shipment of the next release? David To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Tue Jan 29 13: 3:30 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from pc1-dale5-0-cust136.not.cable.ntl.com (pc1-dale5-0-cust136.not.cable.ntl.com [80.1.76.136]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id C8B4437B402 for ; Tue, 29 Jan 2002 13:03:25 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 2044 invoked from network); 29 Jan 2002 21:03:16 -0000 Received: from localhost (HELO matt.thebigchoice.com) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 29 Jan 2002 21:03:16 -0000 Date: Tue, 29 Jan 2002 21:03:15 +0000 From: Matt H To: newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: ports on FreeBSD4.4 Message-Id: <20020129210315.4f8fc390.matt@proweb.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <20020129185130.55FB137B404@hub.freebsd.org> References: <20020129132410.12323.qmail@web21007.mail.yahoo.com> <20020129185130.55FB137B404@hub.freebsd.org> X-Mailer: Sylpheed version 0.7.0 (GTK+ 1.2.10; i386--freebsd4.4) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > > > This is my sole complaint with FreeBSD - nothing comes > > with the CD, one has to connect to the internet for > > everything from ports to upgrading. > > CD 1 has packages. 3 and 4 have even more. Take a look. > I have no idea what's on the CD's but you have to tell FreeBSD where to find the ports/packages to install anything by default ports are searched for in /usr/ports/distfiles so copy/moun/symlink the files into there and off you go To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Tue Jan 29 13:40:11 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from odin.acuson.com (odin.acuson.com [157.226.230.71]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 58B3F37B402 for ; Tue, 29 Jan 2002 13:40:08 -0800 (PST) Received: from mvaexch00.acuson.com ([157.226.230.212]) by odin.acuson.com (Netscape Messaging Server 3.54) with ESMTP id AAA66E4; Tue, 29 Jan 2002 13:40:06 -0800 Received: by mvaexch00.acuson.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Tue, 29 Jan 2002 13:35:26 -0800 Received: from there (dhcp-46-100.acuson.com [157.226.46.100]) by mvaexch01.acuson.com with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2653.13) id CJVD1PVD; Tue, 29 Jan 2002 13:30:54 -0800 From: Johnson David To: Matt H , newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Organization: Acuson Subject: Re: ports on FreeBSD4.4 Date: Tue, 29 Jan 2002 13:39:57 -0800 X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.3.2] References: <20020129132410.12323.qmail@web21007.mail.yahoo.com> <20020129185130.55FB137B404@hub.freebsd.org> <20020129210315.4f8fc390.matt@proweb.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <20020129210315.4f8fc390.matt@proweb.co.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-Id: <20020129214008.58B3F37B402@hub.freebsd.org> Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Tuesday 29 January 2002 01:03 pm, Matt H wrote: > by default ports are searched for in /usr/ports/distfiles First off, these CDs contain precompiled packages as well as the source code. Second, after searchng for the ports in /usr/ports/distfiles, it will search for them at /cdrom/ports/distfiles. Far from being useless, CDs 3 and 4 are very useful things to have, and very easy to use. David To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Tue Jan 29 16:28:32 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mail.softalia.com (rainforest.softalia.com [65.161.202.20]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 193E937B400 for ; Tue, 29 Jan 2002 16:28:28 -0800 (PST) Received: from tigger.softalia.com (root@tigger.softalia.com [65.161.202.175]) by mail.softalia.com (8.11.4/3.7W-isfs) with ESMTP id g0U0SD829664; Tue, 29 Jan 2002 19:28:13 -0500 (EST) Received: from tigger.softalia.com (kkonaka@tigger.softalia.com [65.161.202.175]) by tigger.softalia.com (8.11.4/3.7W-isfs) with ESMTP id g0U0SAv10618; Tue, 29 Jan 2002 19:28:10 -0500 Date: Tue, 29 Jan 2002 19:28:07 -0500 Message-ID: From: kkonaka@mac.com To: newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: ie(4) - EtherExpress16 User-Agent: Wanderlust/2.6.0 (Twist And Shout) SEMI/1.14.3 (Ushinoya) FLIM/1.14.3 (=?ISO-8859-4?Q?Unebigory=F2mae?=) APEL/10.3 Emacs/20.7 (i586-pc-linux-gnu) MULE/4.0 (HANANOEN) MIME-Version: 1.0 (generated by SEMI 1.14.3 - "Ushinoya") Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org hi! - started using freebsd for two days :) how do I install 4.4-RELEASE into a PC with only etherexpress16 - ie(4) network interface? I did install 4.4-RELEASE on another PC with 3c590, (over both ftp&nfs install) but it looks like installer for 4.4-RELEASE doesn't have immediate support for ie(4). I've casually tried 4.2-RELEASE installer which appears to have ie(4) support, but somehow this seems to have failed probing the hardware (?) now I'm thinking about two choises: - 0) first, swap the disk beween two machines once, then - a) install 4.4-RELEASE, then somehow reconfigure the kernel to have ie(4) support. - b) install 4.2-RELEASE, expecting I may not have to do anything to support for ie(4). should I try 0)-a) or 0)-b) or there's actually no need to do 0) in the first place ? ;; for now it really doesn't matter even if its 4.2-RELEASE ;; (in fact, I'm interested in take looking at the differences :) thanks much :) kenji To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Tue Jan 29 16:37:31 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from 1nova.com (heorot.1nova.com [63.105.24.23]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EE24B37B402 for ; Tue, 29 Jan 2002 16:37:09 -0800 (PST) Received: by 1nova.com (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 95B0C18F4; Tue, 29 Jan 2002 17:37:02 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by 1nova.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8CEC118F3; Tue, 29 Jan 2002 17:37:02 -0800 (PST) Date: Tue, 29 Jan 2002 17:37:02 -0800 (PST) From: Rick Hamell To: kkonaka@mac.com Cc: newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: ie(4) - EtherExpress16 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org You're better off asking questions in -questions. That is what that group is for. -newbies is not for asking technical questions. :) Rick ******************************************************************* Rick's FreeBSD Web page http://heorot.1nova.com/freebsd Ace Logan's Hardware Guide http://hw.shatteredcrystal.com ***FreeBSD - The Power to Serve! http://www.freebsd.org On Tue, 29 Jan 2002 kkonaka@mac.com wrote: > hi! - started using freebsd for two days :) > > how do I install 4.4-RELEASE into a PC with only > etherexpress16 - ie(4) network interface? > > I did install 4.4-RELEASE on another PC with 3c590, (over > both ftp&nfs install) but it looks like installer for > 4.4-RELEASE doesn't have immediate support for ie(4). > > I've casually tried 4.2-RELEASE installer which appears > to have ie(4) support, but somehow this seems to have > failed probing the hardware (?) > > now I'm thinking about two choises: > > - 0) first, swap the disk beween two machines once, then > - a) install 4.4-RELEASE, then somehow reconfigure the > kernel to have ie(4) support. > - b) install 4.2-RELEASE, expecting I may not have > to do anything to support for ie(4). > > should I try 0)-a) or 0)-b) or there's actually no need > to do 0) in the first place ? > > ;; for now it really doesn't matter even if its 4.2-RELEASE > ;; (in fact, I'm interested in take looking at the differences :) > > thanks much :) > kenji > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Tue Jan 29 16:50:17 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mail.softalia.com (rainforest.softalia.com [65.161.202.20]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E113C37B416 for ; Tue, 29 Jan 2002 16:50:13 -0800 (PST) Received: from tigger.softalia.com (root@tigger.softalia.com [65.161.202.175]) by mail.softalia.com (8.11.4/3.7W-isfs) with ESMTP id g0U0o7800110; Tue, 29 Jan 2002 19:50:07 -0500 (EST) Received: from tigger.softalia.com (kkonaka@tigger.softalia.com [65.161.202.175]) by tigger.softalia.com (8.11.4/3.7W-isfs) with ESMTP id g0U0o3v12660; Tue, 29 Jan 2002 19:50:03 -0500 Date: Tue, 29 Jan 2002 19:50:00 -0500 Message-ID: From: kkonaka@mac.com To: hamellr@heorot.1nova.com Cc: matt@proweb.co.uk Cc: newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: ie(4) - EtherExpress16 In-Reply-To: References: User-Agent: Wanderlust/2.6.0 (Twist And Shout) SEMI/1.14.3 (Ushinoya) FLIM/1.14.3 (=?ISO-8859-4?Q?Unebigory=F2mae?=) APEL/10.3 Emacs/20.7 (i586-pc-linux-gnu) MULE/4.0 (HANANOEN) MIME-Version: 1.0 (generated by SEMI 1.14.3 - "Ushinoya") Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org thanks! :) in retrospect, I think it was a typical 'freebsd newbie' mistake [*blush*] kenji At Tue, 29 Jan 2002 17:37:02 -0800 (PST), hamellr@heorot.1nova.com wrote: > > > You're better off asking questions in -questions. That is what > that group is for. -newbies is not for asking technical questions. :) > > Rick To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Tue Jan 29 17: 5:58 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from odin.acuson.com (odin.acuson.com [157.226.230.71]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5CD5737B400 for ; Tue, 29 Jan 2002 17:05:54 -0800 (PST) Received: from mvaexch00.acuson.com ([157.226.230.212]) by odin.acuson.com (Netscape Messaging Server 3.54) with ESMTP id AAA57F9; Tue, 29 Jan 2002 17:05:52 -0800 Received: by mvaexch00.acuson.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Tue, 29 Jan 2002 17:01:11 -0800 Received: from there (dhcp-46-100.acuson.com [157.226.46.100]) by mvaexch01.acuson.com with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2653.13) id CJVD1RC5; Tue, 29 Jan 2002 16:56:39 -0800 From: Johnson David To: kkonaka@mac.com, newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Organization: Acuson Subject: Re: ie(4) - EtherExpress16 Date: Tue, 29 Jan 2002 17:05:42 -0800 X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.3.2] References: In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-Id: <20020130010554.5CD5737B400@hub.freebsd.org> Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Tuesday 29 January 2002 04:28 pm, kkonaka@mac.com wrote: > hi! - started using freebsd for two days :) > > how do I install 4.4-RELEASE into a PC with only > etherexpress16 - ie(4) network interface? This would probably be best asked in -questions, but I can give you some directions to travel... > - a) install 4.4-RELEASE, then somehow reconfigure the > kernel to have ie(4) support. If you have the FreeBSD CD, then this is the way to go. Install the base system, rebuild the kernel with ie support, then continue. The fact that you mentioned this as a viable option makes me believe you have a CD to install from. Rebuilding the kernel afterwards is relatively easy provided you read the handbook first. If you don't have the CD then it will involve further work. One possibility is installing from an MSDOS partition. The handbook (and faq) covers many installation options. Also re-ask the question on the -questions list. David To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Tue Jan 29 17:34:42 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mail.softalia.com (rainforest.softalia.com [65.161.202.20]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0F66037B400 for ; Tue, 29 Jan 2002 17:34:36 -0800 (PST) Received: from tigger.softalia.com (root@tigger.softalia.com [65.161.202.175]) by mail.softalia.com (8.11.4/3.7W-isfs) with ESMTP id g0U1YY800921; Tue, 29 Jan 2002 20:34:34 -0500 (EST) Received: from tigger.softalia.com (kkonaka@tigger.softalia.com [65.161.202.175]) by tigger.softalia.com (8.11.4/3.7W-isfs) with ESMTP id g0U1YVv15157; Tue, 29 Jan 2002 20:34:31 -0500 Date: Tue, 29 Jan 2002 20:34:17 -0500 Message-ID: From: kkonaka@mac.com To: djohnson@acuson.com Cc: newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: ie(4) - EtherExpress16 In-Reply-To: <20020130010554.5CD5737B400@hub.freebsd.org> References: <20020130010554.5CD5737B400@hub.freebsd.org> User-Agent: Wanderlust/2.6.0 (Twist And Shout) SEMI/1.14.3 (Ushinoya) FLIM/1.14.3 (=?ISO-8859-4?Q?Unebigory=F2mae?=) APEL/10.3 Emacs/20.7 (i586-pc-linux-gnu) MULE/4.0 (HANANOEN) MIME-Version: 1.0 (generated by SEMI 1.14.3 - "Ushinoya") Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org hi! - thank you very much, > If you have the FreeBSD CD, then this is the way to go. Install the base > system, rebuild the kernel with ie support, then continue. The fact that you > mentioned this as a viable option makes me believe you have a CD to install > from. Rebuilding the kernel afterwards is relatively easy provided you read > the handbook first. I don't really have a CD, but I've downloaded (maybe...) everything during the weekend into another linux machine (oops.?), so I guess it's only a matter of doing ``cp -r'' [then wait for equivalent of a few cup of coffee, or (probably better) to re-read the handbook/faq :)] to prepare equivalent media. > If you don't have the CD then it will involve further work. One possibility > is installing from an MSDOS partition. The handbook (and faq) covers many > installation options. Also re-ask the question on the -questions list. one of the things I was wondering about was => if the 4.4-RELEASE still have the driver (source) code for ie(4) or not - ie., is it only missing in the kernel configuration file, or already have dropped the driver source code as well (do I have to resurrect it from 4.2-RELEASE)? -- stuff like that. but since you suggest :) -- I'll try the 4.4-RELEASE PATH first anyway. ...if I'm stuck - will comeback :) thank again!! kenji To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Tue Jan 29 18: 5:23 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from odin.acuson.com (odin.acuson.com [157.226.230.71]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9042637B417 for ; Tue, 29 Jan 2002 18:05:20 -0800 (PST) Received: from mvaexch02.acuson.com ([157.226.230.209]) by odin.acuson.com (Netscape Messaging Server 3.54) with ESMTP id AAA7345; Tue, 29 Jan 2002 18:05:15 -0800 Received: by mvaexch02.acuson.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Tue, 29 Jan 2002 18:05:00 -0800 Received: from there (dhcp-46-100.acuson.com [157.226.46.100]) by mvaexch01.acuson.com with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2653.13) id CJVD1RLL; Tue, 29 Jan 2002 17:56:00 -0800 From: Johnson David To: kkonaka@mac.com Cc: newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Organization: Acuson Subject: Re: ie(4) - EtherExpress16 Date: Tue, 29 Jan 2002 18:05:03 -0800 X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.3.2] References: <20020130010554.5CD5737B400@hub.freebsd.org> In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-Id: <20020130020520.9042637B417@hub.freebsd.org> Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Tuesday 29 January 2002 05:34 pm, kkonaka@mac.com wrote: > one of the things I was wondering about was => if the > 4.4-RELEASE still have the driver (source) code for ie(4) or > not - ie., is it only missing in the kernel configuration Yes, ie0 is still there in 4.4, and is built by default in the GENERIC kernel. I'm only assuming that they left it out of the install kernel to make room. David To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Tue Jan 29 18:54:51 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from web13204.mail.yahoo.com (web13204.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.174.189]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 0604337B416 for ; Tue, 29 Jan 2002 18:54:25 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <20020130025424.21421.qmail@web13204.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [63.101.143.5] by web13204.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Tue, 29 Jan 2002 20:54:24 CST Date: Tue, 29 Jan 2002 20:54:24 -0600 (CST) From: =?iso-8859-1?q?Eduardo=20Huertas?= Subject: Re: AETHRA ISDN external modem To: Francisco Borggia , freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi Franciso I have an AETHRA modem too and works well. In this moment I don't have the ppp.conf at hand, but you can hack on Window$, as you say you could work with it. What you need is the string for initialize the modem and get up the two channels, after that it works just fine. -edu- --- Francisco Borggia escribió: > Hello everyone! > I am trying to establish PPP with this > modem but unsuccesfully. > It responds to "term" commands and after beeing > connected for some 8 > seconds indicates > NO_ CARRIER. What are peculiarities of > AETHRA modems? > With Windows it works normaly.How to make it > work with FreeBSD? > Any advice is apreciated. > > P.B. > > ATTACHMENT part 2 application/ms-tnef name=winmail.dat _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Información de Estados Unidos y América Latina, en Yahoo! Noticias. Visítanos en http://noticias.espanol.yahoo.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Wed Jan 30 3: 4: 0 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from go4.ext.ti.com (dlezb.ext.ti.com [192.91.75.132]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9E7EA37B416; Wed, 30 Jan 2002 03:03:53 -0800 (PST) Received: from dlep8.itg.ti.com ([157.170.134.88]) by go4.ext.ti.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g0UB3r624539; Wed, 30 Jan 2002 05:03:53 -0600 (CST) Received: from dlep8.itg.ti.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by dlep8.itg.ti.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id FAA25675; Wed, 30 Jan 2002 05:03:52 -0600 (CST) Received: from popsvr.india.ti.com (popsvr.india.ti.com [157.87.95.215]) by dlep8.itg.ti.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id FAA25661; Wed, 30 Jan 2002 05:03:50 -0600 (CST) Received: from paspcsham (dhcp86159 [157.87.86.159]) by popsvr.india.ti.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id QAA10603; Wed, 30 Jan 2002 16:33:46 +0530 (IST) Message-ID: <002001c1a97f$422ab380$9f56579d@india.ti.com> From: "Gautham Ganapathy" To: "FreeBSD Newbies @ FreeBSD.org" , "FreeBSD Questions @ FreeBSD.org" Subject: Mounting logical fat32 partitions Date: Wed, 30 Jan 2002 16:44:13 +0530 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi I am unable to mount my fat32 partitions from freebsd. I am able to mount fat partitions which are configured as primary fat partitions, such as thos in thee 3rd drive. however, i am unable to mount the partitions in the 2nd drive. How exactly do i reference a drive in the second drive. i have been trying something like ad1s2a,b,... my hdd conf is as follows hdd1 P1 ext3 Ext P5 ext3 P6 ext3 . . . hdd2 P1 ntfs Ext P5 fat32 P6 fat32 . . . hdd3 P1 FreeBSD P2 Fat32 P3 Fat32 regards gautham To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Wed Jan 30 12:37:19 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from pooh.softalia.com (pooh.softalia.com [65.161.202.173]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E3C0237B417; Wed, 30 Jan 2002 12:37:14 -0800 (PST) Received: from tigger.softalia.com (tigger.softalia.com [65.161.202.175]) by pooh.softalia.com (8.9.3+Sun/3.7W-isfs) with ESMTP id PAA00394; Wed, 30 Jan 2002 15:37:04 -0500 (EST) Received: from tigger.softalia.com (kkonaka@tigger.softalia.com [65.161.202.175]) by tigger.softalia.com (8.11.4/3.7W-isfs) with ESMTP id g0UKb4v27716; Wed, 30 Jan 2002 15:37:04 -0500 Date: Wed, 30 Jan 2002 15:37:02 -0500 Message-ID: From: kkonaka@mac.com To: djohnson@acuson.com, cjc@FreeBSD.ORG Cc: newbies@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: ie(4) - EtherExpress16 In-Reply-To: <20020130020520.9042637B417@hub.freebsd.org> References: <20020130010554.5CD5737B400@hub.freebsd.org> <20020130020520.9042637B417@hub.freebsd.org> <20020129173858.K79208@blossom.cjclark.org> User-Agent: Wanderlust/2.6.0 (Twist And Shout) SEMI/1.14.3 (Ushinoya) FLIM/1.14.3 (=?ISO-8859-4?Q?Unebigory=F2mae?=) APEL/10.3 Emacs/20.7 (i586-pc-linux-gnu) MULE/4.0 (HANANOEN) MIME-Version: 1.0 (generated by SEMI 1.14.3 - "Ushinoya") Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org At Tue, 29 Jan 2002 18:05:03 -0800, djohnson@acuson.com wrote: > Yes, ie0 is still there in 4.4, and is built by default in the GENERIC > kernel. I'm only assuming that they left it out of the install kernel to make > room. At Tue, 29 Jan 2002 17:38:58 -0800, cjc@FreeBSD.ORG wrote: > Hmmm... Nope. Looks like it is not in the install kernel, but I still > see ie(4) listed in the GENERIC kernel. ... > Once you install, ie(4) support will be in the GENERIC kernel. thanks again David, Crist - you are right and I was wrong ; somehow I didn't recognize the line for ie0 in conf/GENERIC yesterday. now I did install 4.4-RELEASE into this other machine; only that the started kernel still somehow doesn't pickup ie0 -- trying to double check parameters... > The ie(4) is a jumpered ISA card, IIRC. The settings on the card have > to match up with the kernel's idea of where to find the card. 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Message-ID: <20020131031140.L1377-100000@localhost.b.lab.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi, it is a question but an extremly trivial more or less untechnical: I saw some files with the extension bz2. bunzip was wrong. It seems to be a rather common format, what is it, how can I decode it ? Thanks, H. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Wed Jan 30 19:51:58 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from Amelia.bsdprophet.org (cherry46.theshop.net [63.67.33.111]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 38A6037B405 for ; Wed, 30 Jan 2002 19:51:56 -0800 (PST) Received: from bsdprophet.org (localhost.bsdprophet.org [127.0.0.1]) by Amelia.bsdprophet.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g0V3r3t02200; Wed, 30 Jan 2002 21:53:03 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from scott@bsdprophet.org) Message-ID: <3C58BF9F.CE2882AA@bsdprophet.org> Date: Wed, 30 Jan 2002 21:53:03 -0600 From: Scott Corey X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.4.2 i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Heiko Recktenwald Cc: freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: bla.bz2, what is that ? References: <20020131031140.L1377-100000@localhost.b.lab.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org man bzip2 Heiko Recktenwald wrote: > > Hi, it is a question but an extremly trivial more or less untechnical: > I saw some files with the extension bz2. bunzip was wrong. > It seems to be a rather common format, what is it, how can I decode it ? > > Thanks, > > H. > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message -- To those accustomed to the precise, structured methods of conventional system development, exploratory development techniques may seem messy, inelegant, and unsatisfying. But it's a question of congruence: precision and flexibility may be just as dysfunctional in novel, uncertain situations as sloppiness and vacillation are in familiar, well-defined ones. Those who admire the massive, rigid bone structures of dinosaurs should remember that jellyfish still enjoy their very secure ecological niche. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Wed Jan 30 20:10: 7 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from nycsmtp1out.rdc-nyc.rr.com (nycsmtp1out.rdc-nyc.rr.com [24.29.99.226]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A8CDA37B405 for ; Wed, 30 Jan 2002 20:10:03 -0800 (PST) Received: from scottro11.homeunix.net (24-168-24-239.nyc.rr.com [24.168.24.239]) by nycsmtp1out.rdc-nyc.rr.com (8.12.1/Road Runner SMTP Server 1.0) with SMTP id g0V49OfZ013020; Wed, 30 Jan 2002 23:09:29 -0500 (EST) Date: Thu, 31 Jan 2002 13:18:01 -0500 From: Scott Robbins To: Scott Corey Cc: uzs106@ibm.rhrz.uni-bonn.de, freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: bla.bz2, what is that ? Message-Id: <20020131131801.461f97e3.scottro@nyc.rr.com> In-Reply-To: <3C58BF9F.CE2882AA@bsdprophet.org> References: <20020131031140.L1377-100000@localhost.b.lab.net> <3C58BF9F.CE2882AA@bsdprophet.org> X-Mailer: Sylpheed version 0.7.0 (GTK+ 1.2.10; i386--freebsd4.5) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Wed, 30 Jan 2002 21:53:03 -0600 Scott Corey wrote: > man bzip2 I always go back and forth in my mind about this--sometimes, I think it's good to send a beginner to a man page, other times, it seems like answering a 5 year old's questions about reproduction by handing them a PhD thesis on DNA. :) In this case the man page is a bit rough for a beginner. The answer he needs is: tar -yxvf filename.tar.bz2 Or tar -jxvf filename.tar.bz2 After doing that, however, you might then try Mr. Corey's advice--I've often thought that one good way to learn how to use man pages is to look at the ones for the commands you already know--then, you get used to the layout, etc, and as you get more advanced, it becomes easier and easier to make good use of them. (Also look at the man page for tar) Scott Robbins > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Wed Jan 30 21:44:10 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from tomts11-srv.bellnexxia.net (tomts11.bellnexxia.net [209.226.175.55]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6BE5037B417 for ; Wed, 30 Jan 2002 21:44:06 -0800 (PST) Received: from pavilion ([64.231.72.250]) by tomts11-srv.bellnexxia.net (InterMail vM.4.01.03.16 201-229-121-116-20010115) with SMTP id <20020131054405.NAGF12553.tomts11-srv.bellnexxia.net@pavilion> for ; Thu, 31 Jan 2002 00:44:05 -0500 Message-ID: <000801c1aa22$7e244240$b2e7fea9@pavilion> From: "olavinho" To: Subject: big problem Date: Thu, 31 Jan 2002 00:42:45 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0005_01C1A9F0.32E1F980" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0005_01C1A9F0.32E1F980 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable is my first type using and trying to get freebsd=20 I want to know what freebsd OS do i need for a IRC server for a AMD 1g=20 thx=20 carlos=20 ------=_NextPart_000_0005_01C1A9F0.32E1F980 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
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------=_NextPart_000_0005_01C1A9F0.32E1F980-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Thu Jan 31 5: 6:20 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from Mail.ZEDAT.FU-Berlin.DE (mail.zedat.fu-berlin.de [130.133.1.48]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 83D0B37B404 for ; Thu, 31 Jan 2002 05:06:17 -0800 (PST) Received: by Mail.ZEDAT.FU-Berlin.DE (Smail3.2.0.98) from [130.133.197.137] (130.133.197.137) with esmtp id ; Thu, 31 Jan 2002 14:06:07 +0100 (MET) Date: Thu, 31 Jan 2002 14:06:07 +0100 (MET) X-Sender: uzs106@mailin.uni-bonn.de Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <000801c1aa22$7e244240$b2e7fea9@pavilion> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: "olavinho" , From: Heiko Recktenwald Subject: Re: big problem Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org At 0:42 Uhr -0600 31.01.2002, olavinho wrote: > is my first type using and trying to get freebsd I want to know what >freebsd OS do i need for a IRC server for a AMD 1g thx carlos Any version of the OS should do, the latest is 4.5 R. Good luck, H. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Thu Jan 31 6:58:29 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from gurke.b.lab.net (port-212-202-128-197.reverse.qsc.de [212.202.128.197]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7F44937B416 for ; Thu, 31 Jan 2002 06:58:26 -0800 (PST) Received: from port-212-202-128-215.reverse.qsc.de (port-212-202-128-215.reverse.qsc.de [212.202.128.215]) by gurke.b.lab.net (8.12.1/8.12.1/Debian -5) with ESMTP id g0VEwJlc012453 for ; Thu, 31 Jan 2002 15:58:24 +0100 Date: Thu, 31 Jan 2002 15:58:18 +0100 (CET) From: Heiko Recktenwald X-X-Sender: To: Subject: Miro S3 or Cirrus Logic GD5446 Message-ID: <20020131154435.O347-100000@localhost.b.lab.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi, I have two graphic cards. My old Miro S3 SD20 PCI and some other. The other one has also 2 MB and works better with the monitor. But isnt the S3 somehow "accelerated" ? I am hesitating to give the S3 for the Cirrus and prefer to wait for a better monitor but maybe the Cirrus isnt much worse. Well, newbies lowtech problems..... Google didnt tell me anything usefull, exept that the Cirrus goes with the SVGA server. The Miro S3 has the strange problem, that it doesnt display fonts with anything better than the VGA16 server. Maybe I can disable some SVGA or S3 feature. Instead of fonts, there are just stripes. Or nothing. Maybe this has something to do with hardware acceleration, which isnt ok with this braindead old monitor here, some 100 miles away from home.. H. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Thu Jan 31 8:13:55 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from gurke.b.lab.net (port-212-202-128-197.reverse.qsc.de [212.202.128.197]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CAC6C37B41B for ; Thu, 31 Jan 2002 08:13:29 -0800 (PST) Received: from port-212-202-128-215.reverse.qsc.de (port-212-202-128-215.reverse.qsc.de [212.202.128.215]) by gurke.b.lab.net (8.12.1/8.12.1/Debian -5) with ESMTP id g0VGDDlc026131; Thu, 31 Jan 2002 17:13:17 +0100 Date: Thu, 31 Jan 2002 17:13:12 +0100 (CET) From: Heiko Recktenwald X-X-Sender: To: Maxi Cc: Scott Robbins , Scott Corey , Subject: Re: bla.bz2, what is that ? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20020131171146.P585-100000@localhost.b.lab.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Thanks to all. On Thu, 31 Jan 2002, Maxi wrote: > decompress a file with extension BZ2 try > > bunzip2 file.bz2 Didnt help much with the file since it didnt compile. Best, H. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Thu Jan 31 15:10:27 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from pooh.softalia.com (pooh.softalia.com [65.161.202.173]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 54E7B37B400; Thu, 31 Jan 2002 15:10:23 -0800 (PST) Received: from tigger.softalia.com (tigger.softalia.com [65.161.202.175]) by pooh.softalia.com (8.9.3+Sun/3.7W-isfs) with ESMTP id SAA02539; Thu, 31 Jan 2002 18:10:16 -0500 (EST) Received: from kanga.softalia.com (kanga.softalia.com [65.161.202.14]) by tigger.softalia.com (8.11.4/3.7W-isfs) with ESMTP id g0VNAGv06931; Thu, 31 Jan 2002 18:10:16 -0500 Date: Thu, 31 Jan 2002 18:10:15 -0500 Message-ID: From: kkonaka@mac.com To: djohnson@acuson.com, cjc@FreeBSD.ORG Cc: newbies@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: SOLVED - Re: ie(4) - EtherExpress16 In-Reply-To: References: <20020130010554.5CD5737B400@hub.freebsd.org> <20020130020520.9042637B417@hub.freebsd.org> <20020129173858.K79208@blossom.cjclark.org> User-Agent: Wanderlust/2.6.0 (Twist And Shout) SEMI/1.14.3 (Ushinoya) FLIM/1.14.3 (=?ISO-8859-4?Q?Unebigory=F2mae?=) APEL/10.3 Emacs/20.7 (i386-unknown-freebsdelf4.4) MULE/4.0 (HANANOEN) MIME-Version: 1.0 (generated by SEMI 1.14.3 - "Ushinoya") Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org now it's solved; this and turned out to be the final answer: http://www.jfitz.com/tips/freebsd_etherexpress16.html kenji @ writing the message on the new machine ;) - thanks again; as otherwise it may have took twice as long. 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To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Thu Jan 31 21:46:27 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from e4500b.callatg.com (e4500b.atgi.net [216.174.194.61]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id B48E837B404 for ; Thu, 31 Jan 2002 21:46:18 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 22041 invoked from network); 1 Feb 2002 05:46:17 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO freestylin) (216.187.132.10) by e4500b with SMTP; 1 Feb 2002 05:46:17 -0000 From: "Christian Nelson" To: Subject: Question Regarding IENTD Date: Thu, 31 Jan 2002 21:46:04 -0800 Message-ID: <020401c1aae3$bd106170$0100a8c0@freestylin> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0205_01C1AAA0.AEED2170" X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.2616 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Importance: Normal Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0205_01C1AAA0.AEED2170 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi..I'm new to the mailing lists.so give me a break here..and let me know if I'm doing this totally wrong. Anyways, I just setup my FreeBSD box behind a Netgear RT314 Router using static Routing. I set the local ip to my box as 192.168.0.2 and setup the router to use DHCP to get a IP address from the charter pipeline service (crappy). Anyways, I set it to route all ports (default) to my ip address of 192.168.0.2 and it seems to be working fine (http/ssh/ssh2/ftp all work fine) except that for some reason I cannot get IDENTD to work. I had it running before it was behind the router fine and it worked great. I have these lines in my inetd.conf auth stream tcp nowait root internal auth -r -f -n -o UNKNOWN -t 60 I also installed midentd later, because identd wasn't working, and added this line auth stream tcp nowait nobody /usr/local/sbin/midentd midentd I obviously restarted inetd but it still won't work. I'm a pretty big newbie to bsd, as is obvious =). Any help would be appreciated. ------=_NextPart_000_0205_01C1AAA0.AEED2170 Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Hi..I’m new to the mailing lists…so give me a break here..and let me know if I’m doing this = totally wrong.

 

Anyways, I just setup my FreeBSD box behind a Netgear RT314 Router using static Routing. I set = the local ip to my box as 192.168.0.2 and setup the router = to use DHCP to get a IP address from the charter = pipeline service (crappy). Anyways, I set it to route all ports (default) to my = ip address of 192.168.0.2 and it seems to be = working fine (http/ssh/ssh2/ftp all work fine) except that for some reason I cannot = get IDENTD to work. I had it running before it was behind the router fine = and it worked great.

 

I have these lines in my inetd.conf

 

auth    stream  tcp     nowait  = root    internal        = auth -r -f -n -o UNKNOWN -t 60

 

I also installed midentd = later, because identd wasn’t working, and = added this line

 

auth    stream  tcp     nowait  = nobody  /usr/local/sbin/midentd    midentd

 

I obviously restarted inetd but it still won’t work. I’m a pretty big newbie to bsd, as is obvious =3D). Any help would be = appreciated.

 

 

------=_NextPart_000_0205_01C1AAA0.AEED2170-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Thu Jan 31 21:49:36 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from e4500b.callatg.com (e4500b.atgi.net [216.174.194.61]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 5927837B402 for ; Thu, 31 Jan 2002 21:49:24 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 27380 invoked from network); 1 Feb 2002 05:49:23 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO freestylin) (216.187.132.10) by e4500b with SMTP; 1 Feb 2002 05:49:23 -0000 From: "Christian Nelson" To: Subject: Question Regarding IDENTD Date: Thu, 31 Jan 2002 21:49:09 -0800 Message-ID: <020b01c1aae4$2ba89b20$0100a8c0@freestylin> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_020C_01C1AAA1.1D855B20" X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.2616 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Importance: Normal Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_020C_01C1AAA1.1D855B20 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi..I'm new to the mailing lists.so give me a break here..and let me know if I'm doing this totally wrong. Anyways, I just setup my FreeBSD box behind a Netgear RT314 Router using static Routing. I set the local ip to my box as 192.168.0.2 and setup the router to use DHCP to get a IP address from the charter pipeline service (crappy). Anyways, I set it to route all ports (default) to my ip address of 192.168.0.2 and it seems to be working fine (http/ssh/ssh2/ftp all work fine) except that for some reason I cannot get IDENTD to work. I had it running before it was behind the router fine and it worked great. I have these lines in my inetd.conf auth stream tcp nowait root internal auth -r -f -n -o UNKNOWN -t 60 I also installed midentd later, because identd wasn't working, and added this line auth stream tcp nowait nobody /usr/local/sbin/midentd midentd I obviously restarted inetd but it still won't work. I'm a pretty big newbie to bsd, as is obvious =). Any help would be appreciated. ------=_NextPart_000_020C_01C1AAA1.1D855B20 Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Hi..I’m new to the mailing lists…so give me a break here..and let me know if = I’m doing this totally wrong.

 

Anyways, I just setup my FreeBSD box behind a Netgear = RT314 Router using static Routing. I set the local ip to my box as 192.168.0.2 = and setup the router to use DHCP to get a IP address from the charter = pipeline service (crappy). Anyways, I set it to route all ports (default) to my = ip address of 192.168.0.2 and it seems to be working fine = (http/ssh/ssh2/ftp all work fine) except that for some reason I cannot get IDENTD to work. I = had it running before it was behind the router fine and it worked = great.

 

I have these lines in my inetd.conf =

 

auth    stream  tcp     nowait  root    internal        = auth -r -f -n -o UNKNOWN -t 60

 

I also installed midentd later, because identd = wasn’t working, and added this line

 

auth    stream  tcp     nowait  nobody  /usr/local/sbin/midentd    = midentd

 

I obviously restarted inetd but it still won’t = work. I’m a pretty big newbie to bsd, as is obvious =3D). Any help would = be appreciated.

 

 

------=_NextPart_000_020C_01C1AAA1.1D855B20-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Fri Feb 1 1:38:25 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from pc1-dale5-0-cust136.not.cable.ntl.com (pc1-dale5-0-cust136.not.cable.ntl.com [80.1.76.136]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 0359237B400 for ; Fri, 1 Feb 2002 01:38:23 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 40595 invoked from network); 1 Feb 2002 09:38:19 -0000 Received: from localhost (HELO matt.thebigchoice.com) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 1 Feb 2002 09:38:19 -0000 Date: Fri, 1 Feb 2002 09:38:19 +0000 From: Matt H To: "Christian Nelson" Cc: freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Question Regarding IENTD Message-Id: <20020201093819.10e8ecc3.matt@proweb.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <020401c1aae3$bd106170$0100a8c0@freestylin> References: <020401c1aae3$bd106170$0100a8c0@freestylin> X-Mailer: Sylpheed version 0.7.0 (GTK+ 1.2.10; i386--freebsd4.4) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Thu, 31 Jan 2002 21:46:04 -0800 "Christian Nelson" wrote: > Hi..I'm new to the mailing lists.so give me a break here..and let me > know if I'm doing this totally wrong. yeah, you should direct questions to freebsd-questions and not newbies newbies is for, well, people to discuss what it's like being a newbie and I've never seen any traffic in here regarding newbieism butI do see plenty of mis-directed questions... > (http/ssh/ssh2/ftp all work fine) except that for some reason I cannot > get IDENTD to work. I had it running before it was behind the router > fine and it worked great. Once they dig around a bit most people dump inetd as it's not a great piece of software. Apparently it leaks memory (bad thing) and can be insecure (badder thing) the alternatives usually recommended are xinetd, tcpwrapeprs or tcpserver I use tcpserver because that's what gets installed when you replace sendmail with qmail you might get different and possibly better advice from freebsd-questions though M To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Fri Feb 1 1:54:58 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from hotmail.com (oe14.law12.hotmail.com [64.4.18.118]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4F2B237B402 for ; Fri, 1 Feb 2002 01:54:46 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Fri, 1 Feb 2002 01:54:46 -0800 X-Originating-IP: [4.41.157.155] From: "Shawn Halloran" To: "Matt H" , "Christian Nelson" Cc: Subject: Re: Question Regarding IENTD Date: Fri, 1 Feb 2002 01:58:46 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: MSN Explorer 7.00.0021.1702 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_001_0003_01C1AAC3.FBF88F40" Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 01 Feb 2002 09:54:46.0157 (UTC) FILETIME=[7ACE2BD0:01C1AB06] Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org ------=_NextPart_001_0003_01C1AAC3.FBF88F40 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Well, I'm a newbie and I'll respond to newbieism. I tried my first install last night and it failed. I'll try again this we= ek end with a different partition (slice) structure. I don't know whether= I should send out an SOS or sink into the abyss alone. I know I'll be ab= le to learn this OS, but it's been a long time since I've experienced suc= h confusion when sitting at a keyboard. Whether anybody gives a s@$% or n= ot, my motivations to learn FreeBSD include a) a desire to provide web se= rvices to small businesses b) a free OS used by 60% of the servers on the= web, , b) Apache Server (open-source software) and, c) no licensing rest= rictions. Any suggestions? I'm getting the feeling I need to approach this project = with a lot of optimism. =20 Shawn H ----- Original Message ----- From: Matt H Sent: Friday, February 01, 2002 1:44 AM To: Christian Nelson Cc: freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Question Regarding IENTD =20 On Thu, 31 Jan 2002 21:46:04 -0800 "Christian Nelson" wrote: > Hi..I'm new to the mailing lists.so give me a break here..and let me > know if I'm doing this totally wrong. yeah, you should direct questions to freebsd-questions and not newbies newbies is for, well, people to discuss what it's like being a newbie and= I've never seen any traffic in here regarding newbieism butI do see plen= ty of mis-directed questions... > (http/ssh/ssh2/ftp all work fine) except that for some reason I cannot > get IDENTD to work. I had it running before it was behind the router > fine and it worked great. Once they dig around a bit most people dump inetd as it's not a great pie= ce of software. Apparently it leaks memory (bad thing) and can be insecur= e (badder thing) the alternatives usually recommended are xinetd, tcpwrapeprs or tcpserver I use tcpserver because that's what gets installed when you replace sendm= ail with qmail you might get different and possibly better advice from freebsd-questions= though M To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the messageGet more fro= m the Web. FREE MSN Explorer download : http://explorer.msn.com ------=_NextPart_001_0003_01C1AAC3.FBF88F40 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Well, I'm a ne= wbie and I'll respond to newbieism.
 
I tried = my first install last night and it failed. I'll try again this week end w= ith a different partition (slice) structure. I don't know whether I shoul= d send out an SOS or sink into the abyss alone. I know I'll be able to le= arn this OS, but it's been a long time since I've experienced such confus= ion when sitting at a keyboard. Whether anybody gives a s@$% or not, my motivations to learn FreeBSD include a) a desi= re to provide web services to small businesses b) a free OS used by = 60% of the servers on the web, , b) Apache Server (open-source software) = and, c) no licensing restrictions.
 
Any sugge= stions? I'm getting the feeling I need to approach this project = ;with a lot of optimism.  
 
Shawn H
----- Original Message -----
From: Matt H
=
Sent: Friday, February 01, 2002 1:= 44 AM
To: Christian Nelson
Cc: freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.O= RG
Subject: Re: Question Reg= arding IENTD
 
On Thu, 31 Jan 2002 21:46:04 -0800"Christian Nelson" <freshzive@charter.net> wrote:

> Hi..= I'm new to the mailing lists.so give me a break here..and let me
> = know if I'm doing this totally wrong.

yeah, you should direct ques= tions to freebsd-questions and not newbies

newbies is for, well, p= eople to discuss what it's like being a newbie and I've never seen any tr= affic in here regarding newbieism butI do see plenty of mis-directed ques= tions...


> (http/ssh/ssh2/ftp all work fine) except that fo= r some reason I cannot
> get IDENTD to work. I had it running befor= e it was behind the router
> fine and it worked great.

Once = they dig around a bit most people dump inetd as it's not a great piece of= software. Apparently it leaks memory (bad thing) and can be insecure (ba= dder thing)

the alternatives usually recommended are xinetd, tcpwr= apeprs or tcpserver

I use tcpserver because that's what gets insta= lled when you replace sendmail with qmail

you might get different = and possibly better advice from freebsd-questions though

M

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with "unsubscribe f= reebsd-newbies" in the body of the message
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------=_NextPart_001_0003_01C1AAC3.FBF88F40-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Fri Feb 1 2:13:20 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from pc1-dale5-0-cust136.not.cable.ntl.com (pc1-dale5-0-cust136.not.cable.ntl.com [80.1.76.136]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id E87E137B405 for ; Fri, 1 Feb 2002 02:13:14 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 40893 invoked from network); 1 Feb 2002 10:13:11 -0000 Received: from localhost (HELO matt.thebigchoice.com) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 1 Feb 2002 10:13:11 -0000 Date: Fri, 1 Feb 2002 10:13:10 +0000 From: Matt H To: "Shawn Halloran" Cc: freshzive@charter.net, freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Question Regarding IENTD Message-Id: <20020201101310.2b635a9c.freebsd-questions@cuntbubble.com> In-Reply-To: References: X-Mailer: Sylpheed version 0.7.0 (GTK+ 1.2.10; i386--freebsd4.4) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Fri, 1 Feb 2002 01:58:46 -0800 "Shawn Halloran" wrote: > Well, I'm a newbie and I'll respond to newbieism. :) > I tried my first install last night and it failed. I'll try again this week end with a different partition (slice) structure. I don't know whether I should send out an SOS or sink into the abyss alone. I know I'll be able to learn this OS, but it's been a long time since I've experienced such confusion when sitting at a keyboard. Whether anybody gives a s@$% or not, my motivations to learn FreeBSD include a) a desire to provide web services to small businesses b) a free OS used by 60% of the servers on the web, , b) Apache Server (open-source software) and, c) no licensing restrictions. A good set of motivations. I think my first install or two was a screwup too. I think it takes a couple of goes to learn what the questions mean! FreeBSD is good for the things you want it for but I'm not sure that your 60% figure is quite accurate though. > Any suggestions? I'm getting the feeling I need to approach this project with a lot of optimism. Well optimism always helps. I used the whole disk and went with the fdisk defaults once there it's a good idea to symlink /var/tmp and /var/db to somewhere else as they can get bigger over time and eventually things start to go weird when they can't write to tmp Use the packages where you can as it's quicker than compiling the source code but don;t be scared of compiling if that's the only way. Subscribe and keep tabs on freebsd-questions & freebsd-security you might want to subscribe to apache as well (I must get round to that one) replace sendmail as soon as possible (and before adding loads of users) use ssh and not telnet if you cross public networks or are on a LAN with other people about (if you use telnet your passwords go across in clear text (same with ftp & pop3) You've got a bit of learning to do before you're commercially ready because no doubt they will want to ask you questions about your system like "can I run php/perl/python/ruby/asp scripts" and "where's the sendmail binary" and "can I use frontpage" and stuff like that. Best of luck M To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Fri Feb 1 2:22:18 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from smtpzilla3.xs4all.nl (smtpzilla3.xs4all.nl [194.109.127.139]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C31A437B417 for ; Fri, 1 Feb 2002 02:22:01 -0800 (PST) Received: from roelxp (213-84-241-73.adsl.xs4all.nl [213.84.241.73]) by smtpzilla3.xs4all.nl (8.12.0/8.12.0) with SMTP id g11ALwPE047056; Fri, 1 Feb 2002 11:21:59 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <004501c1ab0a$48e95b40$9b00000a@roelxp> From: "Roel Kroes" To: "Shawn Halloran" Cc: References: Subject: Re: Question Regarding IENTD Date: Fri, 1 Feb 2002 11:21:59 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0042_01C1AB12.AA63C1F0" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0042_01C1AB12.AA63C1F0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable The first time i installed FreeBSD it failed too and I had the same = feeling. So, you are not alone out there. When i finally got it installed (after lots of coffee), i had to find = all the .conf files and find out how everything is configured. Like = Apache, MySQL and the lot. *Sigh* Someone suggested me to start with Webmin, a webbased configuration tool = for all kinds of OS'es.=20 Now THAT was easy. Configuring FreeBSD was a breeze after I installed = webmin. It lets me edit something in my browser and review the changes = in the conf files. So i even learned something from it. Webmin lets you = administer Apache, MySQL, FTP services, users, mailinglists and more all = from your web browser.=20 I can also think of lots of disadvantages for using such a tool but you = say that all you want is to provide web services to small businesses. = Then this is what you want. Have a look at http://www.webmin.com/=20 Good luck. R. ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Shawn Halloran=20 To: Matt H ; Christian Nelson=20 Cc: freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG=20 Sent: Friday, February 01, 2002 10:58 AM Subject: Re: Question Regarding IENTD Well, I'm a newbie and I'll respond to newbieism. I tried my first install last night and it failed. I'll try again this = week end with a different partition (slice) structure. I don't know = whether I should send out an SOS or sink into the abyss alone. I know = I'll be able to learn this OS, but it's been a long time since I've = experienced such confusion when sitting at a keyboard. Whether anybody = gives a s@$% or not, my motivations to learn FreeBSD include a) a desire = to provide web services to small businesses b) a free OS used by 60% of = the servers on the web, , b) Apache Server (open-source software) and, = c) no licensing restrictions. Any suggestions? I'm getting the feeling I need to approach this = project with a lot of optimism. =20 Shawn H ----- Original Message ----- From: Matt H Sent: Friday, February 01, 2002 1:44 AM To: Christian Nelson Cc: freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Question Regarding IENTD On Thu, 31 Jan 2002 21:46:04 -0800 "Christian Nelson" wrote: > Hi..I'm new to the mailing lists.so give me a break here..and let = me > know if I'm doing this totally wrong. yeah, you should direct questions to freebsd-questions and not = newbies newbies is for, well, people to discuss what it's like being a = newbie and I've never seen any traffic in here regarding newbieism butI = do see plenty of mis-directed questions... > (http/ssh/ssh2/ftp all work fine) except that for some reason I = cannot > get IDENTD to work. I had it running before it was behind the = router > fine and it worked great. Once they dig around a bit most people dump inetd as it's not a = great piece of software. Apparently it leaks memory (bad thing) and can = be insecure (badder thing) the alternatives usually recommended are xinetd, tcpwrapeprs or = tcpserver I use tcpserver because that's what gets installed when you replace = sendmail with qmail you might get different and possibly better advice from = freebsd-questions though M To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message -------------------------------------------------------------------------= ----- Get more from the Web. FREE MSN Explorer download : = http://explorer.msn.com ------=_NextPart_000_0042_01C1AB12.AA63C1F0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
The first time i installed FreeBSD it failed too = and I had=20 the same feeling. So, you are not alone out there.
 
When i finally got it installed (after lots of = coffee), i=20 had to find all the .conf files and find out how everything is = configured. Like=20 Apache, MySQL and the lot. *Sigh*
 
Someone suggested me to start with Webmin, a = webbased=20 configuration tool for all kinds of OS'es.
Now THAT was easy. Configuring FreeBSD was a=20 breeze after I installed webmin. It lets me edit something in my = browser=20 and review the changes in the conf files. So i even learned something = from it.=20 Webmin lets you administer Apache, MySQL, = FTP=20 services, users, mailinglists and more all from your web browser.=20
 
I can also think of lots of = disadvantages for=20 using such a tool but you say that all you want is to provide web = services to=20 small businesses. Then this is what you want.
 
Have a look at http://www.webmin.com/ 
 
Good luck.
 
R.
 
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 Shawn=20 Halloran
Sent: Friday, February 01, 2002 = 10:58=20 AM
Subject: Re: Question Regarding = IENTD

Well, I'm a newbie and I'll respond to newbieism.
 
 
Any suggestions? I'm getting the feeling I need to approach = this=20 project with a lot of optimism.  
 
Shawn H
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 Matt H
Sent: Friday, February 01, = 2002 1:44=20 AM
To: Christian Nelson
Cc: = freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject: Re: Question = Regarding=20 IENTD
 
On Thu, 31 Jan 2002 21:46:04 -0800
"Christian = Nelson"=20 <freshzive@charter.net> wrote:

> Hi..I'm new to the = mailing=20 lists.so give me a break here..and let me
> know if I'm doing = this=20 totally wrong.

yeah, you should direct questions to = freebsd-questions=20 and not newbies

newbies is for, well, people to discuss what = it's=20 like being a newbie and I've never seen any traffic in here = regarding=20 newbieism butI do see plenty of mis-directed = questions...


>=20 (http/ssh/ssh2/ftp all work fine) except that for some reason I=20 cannot
> get IDENTD to work. I had it running before it was = behind the=20 router
> fine and it worked great.

Once they dig around = a bit=20 most people dump inetd as it's not a great piece of software. = Apparently it=20 leaks memory (bad thing) and can be insecure (badder = thing)

the=20 alternatives usually recommended are xinetd, tcpwrapeprs or=20 tcpserver

I use tcpserver because that's what gets installed = when you=20 replace sendmail with qmail

you might get different and = possibly=20 better advice from freebsd-questions though

M

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------=_NextPart_000_0042_01C1AB12.AA63C1F0-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Fri Feb 1 2:37:22 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mail1.messagelabs.com (mail.london-2.starlabs.net [212.125.75.4]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 708E137B402 for ; Fri, 1 Feb 2002 02:37:19 -0800 (PST) X-VirusChecked: Checked Received: (qmail 27572 invoked from network); 1 Feb 2002 10:30:13 -0000 Received: from smtp.morse.com (HELO mailgw1.morse.com) (195.152.231.118) by server-16.tower-1.messagelabs.com with SMTP; 1 Feb 2002 10:30:13 -0000 Received: by mailgw1.morse.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Fri, 1 Feb 2002 10:39:09 -0000 Message-ID: <0F59E973A6C7D511886F00508BFC92971618AB@DBYEXCH1> From: Les Lytollis To: "Freebsd-Newbies (E-mail)" Subject: first post Date: Fri, 1 Feb 2002 10:36:27 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi All, I'm trying to search the mailing list archives before I go posting to the questions list. Can anyone tell me why a search for (e.g) Maxtor returns a resultset no problem - but a search for something like an error string ("ad0: READ command timeout")or "MAKE DEPEND" returns nothing? Cheers Lez To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Fri Feb 1 6:30:19 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from grlu5117.cnet.navy.mil (grlu5117.cnet.navy.Mil [160.127.129.23]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 13A2C37B404 for ; Fri, 1 Feb 2002 06:29:57 -0800 (PST) Received: from penx68322m1.cnet.navy.mil (pens0394.cnet.navy.Mil [160.125.210.190]) by grlu5117.cnet.navy.mil (8.9.3 (PHNE_18546)/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA20647; Fri, 1 Feb 2002 08:29:44 -0600 (CST) Received: by pens0394.cnet.navy.Mil with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Fri, 1 Feb 2002 08:35:21 -0600 Message-ID: From: "Burt, Randall -CONT(DYN)" To: "'Roel Kroes'" , Shawn Halloran Cc: freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: RE: Question Regarding IENTD Date: Fri, 1 Feb 2002 08:35:20 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----_=_NextPart_001_01C1AB2D.ACC0D080" Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C1AB2D.ACC0D080 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Well, I managed to get FreeBSD working after about 2.5 days of experimentation and research. One of the reasons I kept at it is that I'm one of those "fed up with MS/closed software" types and was ready for something new. What I realized during this process is that all of this has made running a computer *fun* again. I know, I know, its frustrating, but what sense of accomplishment does one get from inserting the Windows CD and drinking coffee while the install does its thing? I'm not MS bashing, mind you, its just that I have felt for some time that computing was getting a bit stale and that every time there was some new, interesting technology, MS kindly packaged it up and took all of the fun (again, for me) out of it. Now, I've gotten into this Open OS stuff and am having a blast (though my language as gotten a bit foul of late :)) So, stick with it for stability. Stick with it for community. Stick with it because it assumes you DO know, or are capable of knowing, what you are doing. Stick with it for the fun. -----Original Message----- From: Roel Kroes [mailto:freebsd@Kroes.com] Sent: Friday, February 01, 2002 4:22 AM To: Shawn Halloran Cc: freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Question Regarding IENTD The first time i installed FreeBSD it failed too and I had the same feeling. So, you are not alone out there. When i finally got it installed (after lots of coffee), i had to find all the .conf files and find out how everything is configured. Like Apache, MySQL and the lot. *Sigh* Someone suggested me to start with Webmin, a webbased configuration tool for all kinds of OS'es. Now THAT was easy. Configuring FreeBSD was a breeze after I installed webmin. It lets me edit something in my browser and review the changes in the conf files. So i even learned something from it. Webmin lets you administer Apache, MySQL, FTP services, users, mailinglists and more all from your web browser. I can also think of lots of disadvantages for using such a tool but you say that all you want is to provide web services to small businesses. Then this is what you want. Have a look at http://www.webmin.com/ Good luck. R. ----- Original Message ----- From: Shawn Halloran To: Matt H ; Christian Nelson Cc: freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Sent: Friday, February 01, 2002 10:58 AM Subject: Re: Question Regarding IENTD Well, I'm a newbie and I'll respond to newbieism. I tried my first install last night and it failed. I'll try again this week end with a different partition (slice) structure. I don't know whether I should send out an SOS or sink into the abyss alone. I know I'll be able to learn this OS, but it's been a long time since I've experienced such confusion when sitting at a keyboard. Whether anybody gives a s@$% or not, my motivations to learn FreeBSD include a) a desire to provide web services to small businesses b) a free OS used by 60% of the servers on the web, , b) Apache Server (open-source software) and, c) no licensing restrictions. Any suggestions? I'm getting the feeling I need to approach this project with a lot of optimism. Shawn H ----- Original Message ----- From: Matt H Sent: Friday, February 01, 2002 1:44 AM To: Christian Nelson Cc: freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Question Regarding IENTD On Thu, 31 Jan 2002 21:46:04 -0800 "Christian Nelson" wrote: > Hi..I'm new to the mailing lists.so give me a break here..and let me > know if I'm doing this totally wrong. yeah, you should direct questions to freebsd-questions and not newbies newbies is for, well, people to discuss what it's like being a newbie and I've never seen any traffic in here regarding newbieism butI do see plenty of mis-directed questions... > (http/ssh/ssh2/ftp all work fine) except that for some reason I cannot > get IDENTD to work. I had it running before it was behind the router > fine and it worked great. Once they dig around a bit most people dump inetd as it's not a great piece of software. Apparently it leaks memory (bad thing) and can be insecure (badder thing) the alternatives usually recommended are xinetd, tcpwrapeprs or tcpserver I use tcpserver because that's what gets installed when you replace sendmail with qmail you might get different and possibly better advice from freebsd-questions though M To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message _____ Get more from the Web. FREE MSN Explorer download : http://explorer.msn.com ------_=_NextPart_001_01C1AB2D.ACC0D080 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1"
Well, I managed to get FreeBSD working after about 2.5 days of experimentation and research.  One of the reasons I kept at it is that I'm one of those "fed up with MS/closed software" types and was ready for something new.  What I realized during this process is that all of this has made running a computer *fun* again.  I know, I know, its frustrating, but what sense of accomplishment does one get from inserting the Windows CD and drinking coffee while the install does its thing?  I'm not MS bashing, mind you, its just that I have felt for some time that computing was getting a bit stale and that every time there was some new, interesting technology, MS kindly packaged it up and took all of the fun (again, for me) out of it.  Now, I've gotten into this Open OS stuff and am having a blast (though my language as gotten a bit foul of late :))  So, stick with it for stability.  Stick with it for community.  Stick with it because it assumes you DO know, or are capable of knowing, what you are doing.  Stick with it for the fun.
-----Original Message-----
From: Roel Kroes [mailto:freebsd@Kroes.com]
Sent: Friday, February 01, 2002 4:22 AM
To: Shawn Halloran
Cc: freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject: Re: Question Regarding IENTD

The first time i installed FreeBSD it failed too and I had the same feeling. So, you are not alone out there.
 
When i finally got it installed (after lots of coffee), i had to find all the .conf files and find out how everything is configured. Like Apache, MySQL and the lot. *Sigh*
 
Someone suggested me to start with Webmin, a webbased configuration tool for all kinds of OS'es.
Now THAT was easy. Configuring FreeBSD was a breeze after I installed webmin. It lets me edit something in my browser and review the changes in the conf files. So i even learned something from it. Webmin lets you administer Apache, MySQL, FTP services, users, mailinglists and more all from your web browser.
 
I can also think of lots of disadvantages for using such a tool but you say that all you want is to provide web services to small businesses. Then this is what you want.
 
Have a look at http://www.webmin.com/ 
 
Good luck.
 
R.
 
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Friday, February 01, 2002 10:58 AM
Subject: Re: Question Regarding IENTD

Well, I'm a newbie and I'll respond to newbieism.
 
I tried my first install last night and it failed. I'll try again this week end with a different partition (slice) structure. I don't know whether I should send out an SOS or sink into the abyss alone. I know I'll be able to learn this OS, but it's been a long time since I've experienced such confusion when sitting at a keyboard. Whether anybody gives a s@$% or not, my motivations to learn FreeBSD include a) a desire to provide web services to small businesses b) a free OS used by 60% of the servers on the web, , b) Apache Server (open-source software) and, c) no licensing restrictions.
 
Any suggestions? I'm getting the feeling I need to approach this project with a lot of optimism.  
 
Shawn H
----- Original Message -----
From: Matt H
Sent: Friday, February 01, 2002 1:44 AM
To: Christian Nelson
Cc: freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject: Re: Question Regarding IENTD
 
On Thu, 31 Jan 2002 21:46:04 -0800
"Christian Nelson" <freshzive@charter.net> wrote:

> Hi..I'm new to the mailing lists.so give me a break here..and let me
> know if I'm doing this totally wrong.

yeah, you should direct questions to freebsd-questions and not newbies

newbies is for, well, people to discuss what it's like being a newbie and I've never seen any traffic in here regarding newbieism butI do see plenty of mis-directed questions...


> (http/ssh/ssh2/ftp all work fine) except that for some reason I cannot
> get IDENTD to work. I had it running before it was behind the router
> fine and it worked great.

Once they dig around a bit most people dump inetd as it's not a great piece of software. Apparently it leaks memory (bad thing) and can be insecure (badder thing)

the alternatives usually recommended are xinetd, tcpwrapeprs or tcpserver

I use tcpserver because that's what gets installed when you replace sendmail with qmail

you might get different and possibly better advice from freebsd-questions though

M

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------_=_NextPart_001_01C1AB2D.ACC0D080-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Fri Feb 1 7:50:42 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from 1nova.com (heorot.1nova.com [63.105.24.23]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E7FA137B405 for ; Fri, 1 Feb 2002 07:50:33 -0800 (PST) Received: by 1nova.com (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 68C1B18F4; Fri, 1 Feb 2002 08:48:58 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by 1nova.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 58ACD18F3; Fri, 1 Feb 2002 08:48:58 -0800 (PST) Date: Fri, 1 Feb 2002 08:48:58 -0800 (PST) From: Rick Hamell To: Les Lytollis Cc: "Freebsd-Newbies (E-mail)" Subject: Re: first post In-Reply-To: <0F59E973A6C7D511886F00508BFC92971618AB@DBYEXCH1> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > I'm trying to search the mailing list archives before I go posting to the > questions list. > Can anyone tell me why a search for (e.g) Maxtor returns a resultset no > problem - but a search for something like an error string ("ad0: READ > command timeout")or "MAKE DEPEND" returns nothing? Everyone.... please, please, please ask questions in -questions. For those already on the list, please redirect people to -questions. Do not answer their question here. If we continue to abuse this group, it'll be removed. Rick To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Fri Feb 1 8:25:52 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mail1.messagelabs.com (mail.london-2.starlabs.net [212.125.75.4]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 3922037B405 for ; Fri, 1 Feb 2002 08:25:47 -0800 (PST) X-VirusChecked: Checked Received: (qmail 7490 invoked from network); 1 Feb 2002 16:18:42 -0000 Received: from smtp.morse.com (HELO mailgw1.morse.com) (195.152.231.118) by server-15.tower-1.messagelabs.com with SMTP; 1 Feb 2002 16:18:42 -0000 Received: by mailgw1.morse.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Fri, 1 Feb 2002 16:27:41 -0000 Message-ID: <0F59E973A6C7D511886F00508BFC92971618B0@DBYEXCH1> From: Les Lytollis To: "Freebsd-Newbies (E-mail)" Subject: RE: first post Date: Fri, 1 Feb 2002 16:24:58 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > > I'm trying to search the mailing list archives before I go > posting to the > > questions list. > > Can anyone tell me why a search for (e.g) Maxtor returns a > resultset no > > problem - but a search for something like an error string > ("ad0: READ > > command timeout")or "MAKE DEPEND" returns nothing? > Everyone.... please, please, please ask questions in > -questions. OK, sorry I assumed because this was a non-technical v. newbie question it was appropriate here. Newbie thoughts then, by way of apology: I started using freeBSD partly because it was used as our web server at an old workplace and was rock solid at its job. Secondly (and thirdly), because I have such limited hardware to put it on (Cyrix PR200, AT mobo, 1.4GB HDD, no CD-ROM) and I only wanted to setup a firewall/gateway and leave it running quietly in a corner, while learning a little more *nix during the process. The initial install was a breeze - download the floppies via my windows box - plug my cable modem into the proposed external NIC on the gateway and boot up. I followed one of the numerous guides out there and installed a basic setup with kernel source from ftp via my CM - pretty cool! Now, though - I'm trying to build a custom Kernel in order to strip the whole thing down and turn it into a firewall, as soon as I ran into an error I've found it very difficult to resolve. Nothing appropriate in the Handbook, nothing (so far) in the archives and never *quite* the same problem on any web/usenet searches. Maybe I've just been unlucky - but I'm surprised that running into an error so early on isn't a well documented newbie pitfall. I'll stick with it though, just because I'm a stubborn s@d ;) Cheers Lez To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Fri Feb 1 9: 5:27 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from herald.cc.purdue.edu (herald.cc.purdue.edu [128.210.11.29]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4816737B402 for ; Fri, 1 Feb 2002 09:05:24 -0800 (PST) Received: from purdue.edu (stewg68pc21.cc.purdue.edu [128.210.17.31]) by herald.cc.purdue.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6/herald) with ESMTP id g11H5NY10153; Fri, 1 Feb 2002 12:05:23 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <3C5ACB12.1167DF16@purdue.edu> Date: Fri, 01 Feb 2002 12:06:27 -0500 From: James Scott X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.77 [en]C-CCK-MCD (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.org Subject: help Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Trying to create server that will be used as internal file storage. I already have DHCP running on my dsl router and have no desire to replace that with the BSD box till i become more familar and comfortable with the OS. I'm doing this as a learning project. any ideas or thing out of the handbook i should read? Jay Scott scottjj@purdue.edu -- CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This email and any attachments are for the exclusive and confidential use of the intended recipient. If you are not the intended recipient, please do not read, distribute or take action in reliance upon this message. If you have received this in error, please notify us immediately by return email and promptly delete this message and its attachments from your computer system. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Fri Feb 1 9:31:17 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mail1.messagelabs.com (mail.london-2.starlabs.net [212.125.75.4]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id EA3E137B405 for ; Fri, 1 Feb 2002 09:31:14 -0800 (PST) X-VirusChecked: Checked Received: (qmail 13596 invoked from network); 1 Feb 2002 17:24:09 -0000 Received: from smtp.morse.com (HELO mailgw1.morse.com) (195.152.231.118) by server-19.tower-1.messagelabs.com with SMTP; 1 Feb 2002 17:24:09 -0000 Received: by mailgw1.morse.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Fri, 1 Feb 2002 17:33:08 -0000 Message-ID: <0F59E973A6C7D511886F00508BFC92971618B1@DBYEXCH1> From: Les Lytollis To: 'James Scott' Cc: "Freebsd-Newbies (E-mail)" Subject: RE: help Date: Fri, 1 Feb 2002 17:30:26 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > Trying to create server that will be used as internal file storage. > I'm doing this as a learning project. any ideas or > thing out of > the handbook i should read? > Well, consider the important things a fileserver would need: access and retrieval - local? remote? - look at samba, ftp security - permissions, ssh, scp backups to or from the freeBSD box - cron, mounting cd burners Hope this points you in the right direction Lez To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Fri Feb 1 11:34:32 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mail.takas.lt (mail-src.takas.lt [212.59.31.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0019237B41C for ; Fri, 1 Feb 2002 11:33:55 -0800 (PST) Received: from praba ([212.59.28.209]) by mail.takas.lt with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.2966); Fri, 1 Feb 2002 21:33:52 +0200 From: "Francisco Borggia" To: Subject: simple problem Date: Fri, 1 Feb 2002 21:32:06 -0800 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0006_01C1AB67.E5CA34E0" X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Importance: Normal X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 01 Feb 2002 19:33:53.0095 (UTC) FILETIME=[61982570:01C1AB57] Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0006_01C1AB67.E5CA34E0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Can anyone tell how to launche Gnome desktop? 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Fri, 1 Feb 2002 14:16:43 -0800 (PST) Received: from gaia.ecs.csus.edu (root@gaia.ecs.csus.edu [130.86.71.9]) by hera.ecs.csus.edu (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id g11MGcQ01632 for ; Fri, 1 Feb 2002 14:16:39 -0800 Received: from localhost (mrazj@localhost) by gaia.ecs.csus.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA06143 for ; Fri, 1 Feb 2002 14:03:22 -0800 (PST) Date: Fri, 1 Feb 2002 14:03:12 -0800 (PST) From: jmraz To: Subject: pcmcia question In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I've got a presario 1200xl125 laptop with one card slot. Before I go and buy an ethernet/modem combo card from Fry's, which of these can I get a recommendation on in so far as compatibility with FBSD (I'm waiting to get the card before mounting the OS): Ambicom CB100-EZ.. 32b, 10/100; Linksys PCMPC100.. 16b, 10/100; Netgear FA411.. 16b, 10/100; Netgear FA511.. 32b, 10/100; SMC 8036TX.. 16/32b, 10/100; SOHO NCB-100.. 32b, 10/100; Xircom XEM5600.. 16b, 10/100/56K; As far as the cards go, the price doesn't matter. Compatibility and "does it work as it's supposed to in FBSD ?" is all im concerned with. 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Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi, I am running version 3.4 and want to upgrade. Do I just run the /stand/sysinstall that is on my system now, or do I download the new version (that I want to upgrade to) and run it's sysinstall? Any how-to on upgrading would be appreciated! Thanks, Phillip _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Fri Feb 1 19:10:12 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BA07437B400 for ; Fri, 1 Feb 2002 19:10:01 -0800 (PST) Received: (from sue@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) id g123A1r83890 for freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org; Fri, 1 Feb 2002 19:10:01 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from sue) Date: Fri, 1 Feb 2002 19:10:01 -0800 (PST) From: Message-Id: <200202020310.g123A1r83890@freefall.freebsd.org> To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Subject: FreeBSD Newbies First Aid Kit Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org FreeBSD-Newbies First Aid Kit (This is a regular posting to the FreeBSD-Newbies mailing list. It is also available at http://www.welearn.com.au/freebsd/newbies/) FreeBSD-Questions@FreeBSD.ORG is the place to send all questions about installing, configuring, running and using FreeBSD. All help requests are handled by FreeBSD-Questions, including newbies questions. FreeBSD-Newbies is different. We don't ask for help or answer how-to questions. It is a discussion forum for newbies. FreeBSD-Newbies provides a place for new FreeBSD users to meet and covers any of the activities of newbies that are not already dealt with elsewhere. Examples include helping each other to learn more on our own, finding and using resources, problem solving techniques, how to seek help elsewhere, how to use mailing lists and which lists to use, general chat, making mistakes, boasting, sharing ideas, stories, moral (but not technical) support, and taking an active part in the FreeBSD community. We take our problems and support questions to freebsd-questions, and use freebsd-newbies to meet others who are doing the same things that we do as newbies. One of the things we do together is learn more effective ways to find help when we need it. Here are some suggestions: When something doesn't work the way you expect 1. First look at the errata for your release of FreeBSD at http://www.FreeBSD.ORG/releases/ for the latest information and security advisories. 2. Search the Handbook, FAQ, and mail archives at http://www.FreeBSD.ORG/search.html 3. If you still have a question or problem, collect the output of `uname -a' and of any relevant program(s) and email your question to FreeBSD-questions@FreeBSD.ORG. Mailing lists When you have a problem that you can't solve by yourself, there's only one support mailing list and that's FreeBSD-questions@FreeBSD.ORG. FreeBSD-questions helps with installation and basic setup as well as more general and advanced questions. You don't have to actually join freebsd-questions before asking a question there. Replies to your question will normally be sent to you personally as well as to the list. Just make sure you have read and followed the guidelines for posting, because you might find them different to what you're used to. If you do subscribe to freebsd-questions you'll have the advantage of seeing all of the recent questions and their answers. Before you post to FreeBSD-questions, please read the guidelines at http://www.lemis.com/questions.html Many of the people who answer FreeBSD-questions are very knowledgeable, but they get frustrated when they get questions which are difficult to understand. http://www.lemis.com/email.html is worth reading too. If you're not sure that you can follow these guidelines, come back and ask the other newbies for help on how to post an effective question to the support mailing list. Maybe your question has been asked before. If you search the mailing list archives at http://www.freebsd.org/search.html first you might get the answer right away. It's always worth trying. Other mailing lists (http://www.freebsd.org/handbook/eresources.html#ERESOURCES-CHARTERS) cover specialised areas and many are more developer-oriented. You'll need to read their charters carefully before participating, but it's probably a good idea to ask on either -newbies or -questions for advice about where to post a more specialised question. FreeBSD-announce is a very low volume read-only list for occasional announcements, such as notice of new releases, and the Really Quick Newsletter. It's worth subscribing to FreeBSD-announce too. Manuals You'll always be expected to show that you have made some effort to use the available documentation before asking for help. That's not always as easy as it sounds! If you know what documentation you need but can't locate it, send a brief query to FreeBSD-questions. If you don't know what you need, always have trouble finding it, or can't make any sense of it when you do, ask some patient newbies to steer you in the right direction. Anyone interested in writing or reviewing documentation for FreeBSD is encouraged to join the FreeBSD Documentation Project. Details are at http://www.freebsd.org/docproj/docproj.html Other resources A resource list is available at http://www.freebsd.org/projects/newbies.html to help new and inexperienced FreeBSD users to find relevant information quickly. It includes books, on line documents and tutorials, and links to web pages that other newbies have found useful for learning. If you have a suggestion for good material to be included, please write to freebsd-newbies and tell us about it. But I have seen people asking questions here! It is quite common for people to send the wrong kind of post to a mailing list. Because we're newbies it'll certainly happen here from time to time. The best thing to do if you see a message that doesn't belong on a list is to ignore it. There's always someone around whose job it is to sort these problems out privately. The posts to the lists go straight through, whatever their content. It is going to be confusing for a little while because we're all newbies so we all make mistakes. That's OK. One thing we're going to see a fair bit is people posting questions, believing they're doing the right thing by posting here as newbies, not realising how it works. If someone answers those questions the situation will snowball. There's nothing wrong with helping someone to redirect their question to freebsd-questions, but please do so gently. There's nothing wrong with the occasional mistake either. So all questions, requests for help, etc still go to freebsd-questions as usual. Ours is more of a discussion group, a place where newbies can relax with other newbies and focus more on our successes than on our temporary imperfection. We can talk about things here that are not allowed on freebsd-questions. We're also a bit freer to make the mistakes that we need to make in order to learn. _________________________________________________________________ To Subscribe to FreeBSD-Newbies: Send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "subscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message. Mail sent to freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org appears on the mailing list. _________________________________________________________________ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Fri Feb 1 19:23:34 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from apollo.pwhsnet.com (adsl-64-164-36-110.dsl.scrm01.pacbell.net [64.164.36.110]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4907A37B402 for ; Fri, 1 Feb 2002 19:23:31 -0800 (PST) Received: from zeus (patrick@zeus [192.168.0.35] (may be forged)) by apollo.pwhsnet.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id g123MxP12206; Fri, 1 Feb 2002 19:22:59 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from patrick@pwhsnet.com) From: Patrick Fish (patrick@pwhsnet.com) Message-ID: <001101c1ab98$4d1b0680$2300a8c0@zeus> To: , "Phillip Rhodes" References: <5.1.0.14.0.20020201215230.00a712b0@mail.telerama.com> Subject: Re: simple upgrade question? Date: Fri, 1 Feb 2002 19:18:35 -0800 Organization: PWHS Networks MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4807.1700 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4807.1700 Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Although this should go onto freebsd-questions@ - I'll go ahead and answer it. You can upgrade using cvsup, there are examples in /usr/src/share/examples/cvsup/ Once its done downloading, read /usr/src/UPDATING -- Patrick Fish - patrick@pwhsnet.com PWHS Networks - http://www.pwhsnet.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "Phillip Rhodes" To: Sent: Friday, February 01, 2002 6:53 PM Subject: simple upgrade question? > Hi, > I am running version 3.4 and want to upgrade. > Do I just run the /stand/sysinstall that is on my system now, or do I > download the new version (that I want to upgrade to) and run it's sysinstall? > Any how-to on upgrading would be appreciated! > Thanks, > Phillip > > > _________________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Fri Feb 1 21:16:17 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from andrsn.stanford.edu (andrsn.Stanford.EDU [171.66.112.163]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D36B037B402 for ; Fri, 1 Feb 2002 21:16:15 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (andrsn@localhost.stanford.edu [127.0.0.1]) by andrsn.stanford.edu (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id VAA44434; Fri, 1 Feb 2002 21:12:47 -0800 (PST) Date: Fri, 1 Feb 2002 21:12:47 -0800 (PST) From: Annelise Anderson To: Francisco Borggia Cc: freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: simple problem In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Fri, 1 Feb 2002, Francisco Borggia wrote: > Can anyone tell how to launche Gnome desktop? > When I type most of names marked as executables > in /usr/local/bin directory I get a reply "Command not found" > > F.B > In .xinitrc or .xsession gnome-session Annelise -- Annelise Anderson Author of: FreeBSD: An Open-Source Operating System for Your PC Available from: BSDmall.com and amazon.com Book Website: http://www.bittreepress.com/FreeBSD/introbook/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Fri Feb 1 21:30: 8 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from andrsn.stanford.edu (andrsn.Stanford.EDU [171.66.112.163]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1B94637B402 for ; Fri, 1 Feb 2002 21:30:04 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (andrsn@localhost.stanford.edu [127.0.0.1]) by andrsn.stanford.edu (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id VAA44470; Fri, 1 Feb 2002 21:24:57 -0800 (PST) Date: Fri, 1 Feb 2002 21:24:57 -0800 (PST) From: Annelise Anderson To: Rick Hamell Cc: Les Lytollis , "Freebsd-Newbies (E-mail)" Subject: Re: first post In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Fri, 1 Feb 2002, Rick Hamell wrote: > > > I'm trying to search the mailing list archives before I go posting to the > > questions list. > > Can anyone tell me why a search for (e.g) Maxtor returns a resultset no > > problem - but a search for something like an error string ("ad0: READ > > command timeout")or "MAKE DEPEND" returns nothing? > > Everyone.... please, please, please ask questions in > -questions. For those already on the list, please redirect people to > -questions. Do not answer their question here. If we continue to abuse > this group, it'll be removed. > > Rick > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message > I as well as others are guilty of answering the occasional question. However, it seems to me this one is well within the charter of the group. Annelise -- Annelise Anderson Author of: FreeBSD: An Open-Source Operating System for Your PC Available from: BSDmall.com and amazon.com Book Website: http://www.bittreepress.com/FreeBSD/introbook/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Fri Feb 1 22:11:26 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from andrsn.stanford.edu (andrsn.Stanford.EDU [171.66.112.163]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7F74037B400 for ; Fri, 1 Feb 2002 22:11:21 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (andrsn@localhost.stanford.edu [127.0.0.1]) by andrsn.stanford.edu (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id WAA44600; Fri, 1 Feb 2002 22:10:32 -0800 (PST) Date: Fri, 1 Feb 2002 22:10:32 -0800 (PST) From: Annelise Anderson To: Les Lytollis Cc: "Freebsd-Newbies (E-mail)" Subject: RE: first post In-Reply-To: <0F59E973A6C7D511886F00508BFC92971618B0@DBYEXCH1> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Fri, 1 Feb 2002, Les Lytollis wrote: > > > I'm trying to search the mailing list archives before I go > > posting to the > > > questions list. > > > Can anyone tell me why a search for (e.g) Maxtor returns a > > resultset no > > > problem - but a search for something like an error string > > ("ad0: READ > > > command timeout")or "MAKE DEPEND" returns nothing? > > > Everyone.... please, please, please ask questions in > > -questions. > > > OK, sorry > > I assumed because this was a non-technical v. newbie question it was > appropriate here. I will not answer the question but I will tell you my experience. I have used the search stuff on www.freebsd.org extensively--the mailing list archives. But I have much better luck with www.google.com. I click on Groups. I put in the search box mailing.freebsd I get a list of all the freebsd mailing groups. I can view the messages in a "group" (e.g., what google calls mailing.freebsd.questions) or I can search all the groups. As I recall there's a radio button for searching all google groups or only the specific group or groups. This gave me over 700 hits on ad0: READ command timeout I can sort these by date or relevance. Why does this work so much better than www.freebsd.org? Maybe because google indexes, whereas the FreeBSD web page search is searching the documents themselves. However there are threads on other groups (chat, recently) about search services indexing the FreeBSD mailing list archives--something about egroups on Yahoo. Annelise -- Annelise Anderson Author of: FreeBSD: An Open-Source Operating System for Your PC Available from: BSDmall.com and amazon.com Book Website: http://www.bittreepress.com/FreeBSD/introbook/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Sat Feb 2 0:20:55 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from boomerang.bytehosting.com (boomerang.bytehosting.com [65.196.231.162]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id C393237B493 for ; Sat, 2 Feb 2002 00:19:36 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 27078 invoked by uid 0); 2 Feb 2002 07:40:27 -0000 Received: from mike@worklife.com by boomerang.bytehosting.com with qmail-scanner-0.96 (sweep: 2.4/3.47. . Clean. Processed in 0.571449 secs); 02 Feb 2002 07:40:27 -0000 X-Qmail-Scanner-Mail-From: mike@worklife.com via boomerang.bytehosting.com X-Qmail-Scanner: 0.96 (No viruses found. Processed in 0.571449 secs) Received: from we-24-126-132-152.we.mediaone.net (HELO racerx) (24.126.132.152) by boomerang.bytehosting.com with SMTP; 2 Feb 2002 07:40:25 -0000 From: "Mike Kanaly" To: , Subject: Book Suggestions for a newbie Date: Fri, 1 Feb 2002 23:46:06 -0800 Message-ID: <000a01c1abbd$b654e470$6401a8c0@racerx> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_000B_01C1AB7A.A831A470" X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.2616 Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_000B_01C1AB7A.A831A470 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I'm wondering which books would be best in explaining what I need from freebsd. I'm a newbie, and I'm planning on using freebsd to serve some webpages, provide ftp/ssh access, meanwhile be accessible on my Windows network/workgroup. I've looked over some options as far as setup goes and all that, and I think I'm going to go with the following: The FreeBSD Corporate Networker's Guide FreeBSD Handbook, 2nd Ed. Are these solid choices? Any of these delve into apache or samba at all? I know absolutely nothing about freebsd, apache, and samba, and am anxious for some reading material that will help me cover basic installs/configurations. I'm currently running 4.5-stable, and am wondering if they will still be relevant considering they cover older versions? Will they have newer versions of these books out soon that I should maybe wait for? Tia -Mike ------=_NextPart_000_000B_01C1AB7A.A831A470 Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

I’m wondering which books would be best in = explaining what I need from freebsd.  I’m a newbie, and = I’m planning on using freebsd to serve some = webpages, provide ftp/ssh access, meanwhile be accessible on my Windows network/workgroup. =

 

I’ve looked over some options as far as setup = goes and all that, and I think I’m going to go with the following: 

  =

The FreeBSD Corporate Networker's Guide

FreeBSD Handbook, 2nd = Ed.

 

Are these solid choices?  Any of these delve into apache = or samba at all?  I know absolutely = nothing about freebsd, apache, and samba, and am = anxious for some reading material that will help me cover basic = installs/configurations.  I’m currently running = 4.5-stable, and am wondering if they will still be relevant considering they cover = older versions? Will they have newer versions of these books out soon that I = should maybe wait for?   

Tia

-Mike
 

 

------=_NextPart_000_000B_01C1AB7A.A831A470-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Sat Feb 2 0:26: 7 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from phoenix.welearn.com.au (phoenix.welearn.com.au [139.130.44.81]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 512C437B400 for ; Sat, 2 Feb 2002 00:26:01 -0800 (PST) Received: (from sue@localhost) by phoenix.welearn.com.au (8.11.6/8.11.6) id g128PuV34722; Sat, 2 Feb 2002 19:25:56 +1100 (EST) (envelope-from sue) Date: Sat, 2 Feb 2002 19:25:56 +1100 From: Sue Blake To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Cc: Annelise Anderson , Rick Hamell , Les Lytollis Subject: Re: first post Message-ID: <20020202192556.J662@welearn.com.au> Mail-Followup-To: Sue Blake , freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org, Annelise Anderson , Rick Hamell , Les Lytollis References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: ; from andrsn@andrsn.stanford.edu on Fri, Feb 01, 2002 at 09:24:57PM -0800 Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Fri, Feb 01, 2002 at 09:24:57PM -0800, Annelise Anderson wrote: > On Fri, 1 Feb 2002, Rick Hamell wrote: > > > > > > I'm trying to search the mailing list archives before I go posting to the > > > questions list. > > > Can anyone tell me why a search for (e.g) Maxtor returns a resultset no > > > problem - but a search for something like an error string ("ad0: READ > > > command timeout")or "MAKE DEPEND" returns nothing? > > > > Everyone.... please, please, please ask questions in > > -questions. For those already on the list, please redirect people to > > -questions. Do not answer their question here. If we continue to abuse > > this group, it'll be removed. Quite correct, and it's good to see list members helping each other to keep on the straight and narrow. If you know enough to answer a question, you know enough to (gently) help newcomers to go to the right place, and the last thing you lot need is people like me hanging over you with a big stick :-) One thing this list has always been meant for, is to discuss questions _about_ freebsd-questions (or other FreeBSD lists), and difficulties accessing documentation and support in general. In that way this list performs a valuable service to the FreeBSD community without cluttering other lists. Therefore, the question that was asked is quite appropriate. We seem to have found a new user who reads the instructions before acting. Watch this guy: he's going places fast! The only place where someone might step wrong is if they tried to answer the technical question, rather than the search question. Very tempting, I know, but see below. We have more problems with people _answering_ questions here than people accidentally asking the wrong ones. Annelise said... > I as well as others are guilty of answering the occasional > question. If you see a how-to/support question here that really needs answering, all you have to do is change the header to point to freebsd-questions. Simple :-) Of course a cc: would go to the asker as usual, and -newbies readers would see no answer unless we search the archives or read -questions. That's how it's meant to be. We don't mind a few mistakes here, but new users should not be enticed to trust any answers that didn't come via freebsd-questions, because of the active peer review that makes for pretty good quality of support over there. > However, it seems to me this one is well within the charter of > the group. Quite correct, and thanks for helping out with the searching tip that we can all benefit from. (I have trouble searching too.) I'll include more URLs in the FAK. -- Regards, -*Sue*- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Sat Feb 2 3:57:45 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (pc-62-31-42-140-hy.blueyonder.co.uk [62.31.42.140]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0D19337B405; Sat, 2 Feb 2002 03:57:36 -0800 (PST) Received: (from nik@localhost) by nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) id g12BXFa12607; Sat, 2 Feb 2002 11:33:15 GMT (envelope-from nik) Date: Sat, 2 Feb 2002 11:33:14 +0000 From: Nik Clayton To: Mike Kanaly Cc: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org, freebsd-questions-digest@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Book Suggestions for a newbie Message-ID: <20020202113314.B5732@clan.nothing-going-on.org> References: <000a01c1abbd$b654e470$6401a8c0@racerx> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-md5; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="K8nIJk4ghYZn606h" Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5.1i In-Reply-To: <000a01c1abbd$b654e470$6401a8c0@racerx>; from mike@worklife.com on Fri, Feb 01, 2002 at 11:46:06PM -0800 Organization: FreeBSD Project Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org --K8nIJk4ghYZn606h Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable [ At last -- a post that's on topic ] On Fri, Feb 01, 2002 at 11:46:06PM -0800, Mike Kanaly wrote: > I'm wondering which books would be best in explaining what I need from > freebsd. I'm a newbie, and I'm planning on using freebsd to serve some > webpages, provide ftp/ssh access, meanwhile be accessible on my Windows > network/workgroup.=20 > =20 > I've looked over some options as far as setup goes and all that, and I > think I'm going to go with the following: =20 > =20 > The FreeBSD Corporate Networker's Guide=20 Is probably too advanced for your needs. It might be useful if you're planning on using FreeBSD on a larger network with many Windows machines (at which point it's invaluable). > FreeBSD Handbook, 2nd Ed. You can read this on the web at http://www.freebsd.org/handbook/ and then decide whether or not you need the dead-tree edition :-) A book I can personally recommend is Annelise Anderson's FreeBSD: An Open Source Operating System for your computer It's probably right up your street. I've also heard good things about "FreeBSD Unleashed", which is a much heavier tome. I haven't read it though, so I don't know how 'newbie friendly' it is. You can get all of these online. I recommend the BSDMall for these; http://www.bsdmall.com/books.html N --=20 FreeBSD: The Power to Serve http://www.freebsd.org/ (__) FreeBSD Documentation Project http://www.freebsd.org/docproj/ \\\'',) \/ \= ^ --- 15B8 3FFC DDB4 34B0 AA5F 94B7 93A8 0764 2C37 E375 --- .\._/= _) --K8nIJk4ghYZn606h Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (FreeBSD) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iEYEARECAAYFAjxbznoACgkQk6gHZCw343XVZACeM0mN2FDM3UUYsKhmdqeNZ4xC yvAAn1fTTahNAqPmyNxJqMHP2wh9XEIS =2DnY -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --K8nIJk4ghYZn606h-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Sat Feb 2 8:11:42 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from nycsmtp1out.rdc-nyc.rr.com (nycsmtp1out.rdc-nyc.rr.com [24.29.99.226]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8557837B416; Sat, 2 Feb 2002 08:11:34 -0800 (PST) Received: from scott1.nyc.rr.com (24-168-24-239.nyc.rr.com [24.168.24.239]) by nycsmtp1out.rdc-nyc.rr.com (8.12.1/Road Runner SMTP Server 1.0) with ESMTP id g12GB0fa022124; Sat, 2 Feb 2002 11:11:01 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <5.1.0.14.0.20020202111131.00bb9a38@pop-server.nyc.rr.com> X-Sender: scottro@pop-server.nyc.rr.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Sat, 02 Feb 2002 11:15:28 -0500 To: Nik Clayton , Mike Kanaly From: Scott Subject: Re: Book Suggestions for a newbie Cc: freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-questions-digest@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <20020202113314.B5732@clan.nothing-going-on.org> References: <000a01c1abbd$b654e470$6401a8c0@racerx> <000a01c1abbd$b654e470$6401a8c0@racerx> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org At 11:33 2002/02/02 +0000, Nik Clayton wrote: >[ At last -- a post that's on topic ] > >On Fri, Feb 01, 2002 at 11:46:06PM -0800, Mike Kanaly wrote: > > I'm wondering which books would be best in explaining what I need from > > freebsd. > > > > The FreeBSD Corporate Networker's Guide > >Is probably too advanced for your needs. It might be useful if you're >planning on using FreeBSD on a larger network with many Windows machines >(at which point it's invaluable). > > > FreeBSD Handbook, 2nd Ed. > >You can read this on the web at > > http://www.freebsd.org/handbook/ > >and then decide whether or not you need the dead-tree edition :-) > >A book I can personally recommend is Annelise Anderson's > > FreeBSD: An Open Source Operating System for your computer > >It's probably right up your street. I've also heard good things about >"FreeBSD Unleashed", which is a much heavier tome. I haven't read it >though, so I don't know how 'newbie friendly' it is. It's a great second book (after Ms. Anderson's excellent book). Ms. Anderson's doesn't go that deeply into Apache or Samba (both of which, in my experience work fairly well out of the box) but is a great reference for things that you figure you should know, but don't. :) >You can get all of these online. I recommend the BSDMall for these; > > http://www.bsdmall.com/books.html I had the pleasure of meeting a few of those folks at LinuxWorld this week--you should buy from them if you can, they're very nice --hey, they gave me free stickers. :) Scott Robbins To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Sat Feb 2 10:39:26 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mail.jodeit.com (mail.jodeit.com [207.10.131.48]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E293F37B416 for ; Sat, 2 Feb 2002 10:39:21 -0800 (PST) Received: from gdennyj [207.10.131.111] by mail.jodeit.com (SMTPD32-6.06) id A1FA4900F0; Sat, 02 Feb 2002 13:37:46 -0500 Message-ID: <007c01c1ac1a$1ae50b70$6f830acf@gdennyj> From: "Denny Jodeit" To: References: <000a01c1abbd$b654e470$6401a8c0@racerx> <000a01c1abbd$b654e470$6401a8c0@racerx> <5.1.0.14.0.20020202111131.00bb9a38@pop-server.nyc.rr.com> Subject: Re: Book Suggestions for a newbie Date: Sat, 2 Feb 2002 13:47:45 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 X-Note: This E-mail was scanned by Declude JunkMail (www.declude.com) for spam. Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org ----- Original Message ----- From: "Scott" To: "Nik Clayton" ; "Mike Kanaly" Cc: ; Sent: Saturday, February 02, 2002 11:15 AM Subject: Re: Book Suggestions for a newbie > At 11:33 2002/02/02 +0000, Nik Clayton wrote: > >[ At last -- a post that's on topic ] > > > >On Fri, Feb 01, 2002 at 11:46:06PM -0800, Mike Kanaly wrote: > > > I'm wondering which books would be best in explaining what I need from > > > freebsd. > > > > > > The FreeBSD Corporate Networker's Guide > > > >Is probably too advanced for your needs. It might be useful if you're > >planning on using FreeBSD on a larger network with many Windows machines > >(at which point it's invaluable). > > > > > FreeBSD Handbook, 2nd Ed. > > > >You can read this on the web at > > > > http://www.freebsd.org/handbook/ > > > >and then decide whether or not you need the dead-tree edition :-) > > > >A book I can personally recommend is Annelise Anderson's > > > > FreeBSD: An Open Source Operating System for your computer > > > >It's probably right up your street. I've also heard good things about > >"FreeBSD Unleashed", which is a much heavier tome. I haven't read it > >though, so I don't know how 'newbie friendly' it is. > > > It's a great second book (after Ms. Anderson's excellent book). Ms. > Anderson's doesn't go that deeply into Apache or Samba (both of which, in > my experience work fairly well out of the box) but is a great reference for > things that you figure you should know, but don't. :) > > >You can get all of these online. I recommend the BSDMall for these; > > > > http://www.bsdmall.com/books.html > > > I had the pleasure of meeting a few of those folks at LinuxWorld this > week--you should buy from them if you can, they're very nice --hey, they > gave me free stickers. :) > > Scott Robbins I'd like to add that I found Greg Lehey's The Complete FreeBSD an invaluable reference guide. The book is published by Walnut Creek CDROM Books and available at bsdmall, Borders, Amazon, etc. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Sat Feb 2 12:47:59 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from nycsmtp2out.rdc-nyc.rr.com (nycsmtp2out.rdc-nyc.rr.com [24.29.99.227]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0E2B837B405 for ; Sat, 2 Feb 2002 12:47:48 -0800 (PST) Received: from scott1.nyc.rr.com (24-168-24-239.nyc.rr.com [24.168.24.239]) by nycsmtp2out.rdc-nyc.rr.com (8.12.1/Road Runner SMTP Server 1.0) with ESMTP id g12Kkhlg017773; Sat, 2 Feb 2002 15:46:43 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <5.1.0.14.0.20020202154621.00c28e48@pop-server.nyc.rr.com> X-Sender: scottro@pop-server.nyc.rr.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Sat, 02 Feb 2002 15:51:42 -0500 To: "Denny Jodeit" , From: Scott Subject: Re: Book Suggestions for a newbie In-Reply-To: <007c01c1ac1a$1ae50b70$6f830acf@gdennyj> References: <000a01c1abbd$b654e470$6401a8c0@racerx> <000a01c1abbd$b654e470$6401a8c0@racerx> <5.1.0.14.0.20020202111131.00bb9a38@pop-server.nyc.rr.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org At 13:47 2002/02/02 -0500, Denny Jodeit wrote: >-- > > > > >I'd like to add that I found Greg Lehey's The Complete FreeBSD an invaluable >reference guide. The book is published by Walnut Creek CDROM Books and >available at bsdmall, Borders, Amazon, etc. Oops--how the heck did we leave that one out of the list???? Sigh, I AM getting old. That's more or less the bible. That of course, is probably the first book that one should buy. The others mentioned are good at filling in the gaps but Mr. Lehey's, is pretty much the first place one looks. I'll just say that I figured someone mentioned it already and I'd missed that post. :) Scott Scott >To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org >with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Sat Feb 2 14:42:12 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from web13601.mail.yahoo.com (web13601.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.175.112]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 883A437B404 for ; Sat, 2 Feb 2002 14:42:08 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <20020202224208.81023.qmail@web13601.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [12.225.223.52] by web13601.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sat, 02 Feb 2002 14:42:08 PST Date: Sat, 2 Feb 2002 14:42:08 -0800 (PST) From: Bzdik BSD Subject: Re: Book Suggestions for a newbie To: freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <5.1.0.14.0.20020202154621.00c28e48@pop-server.nyc.rr.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org --- Scott wrote: > At 13:47 2002/02/02 -0500, Denny Jodeit wrote: > > >-- > > > > > > > >I'd like to add that I found Greg Lehey's The Complete FreeBSD an > invaluable > >reference guide. The book is published by Walnut Creek CDROM Books > and > >available at bsdmall, Borders, Amazon, etc. > > > Oops--how the heck did we leave that one out of the list???? Sigh, I > AM > getting old. > That's more or less the bible. That of course, is probably the first > book > that one should buy. The others mentioned are good at filling in the > gaps > but Mr. Lehey's, is pretty much the first place one looks. I'll just > say > that I figured someone mentioned it already and I'd missed that post. > :) > > Scott The book (not Mr. Lehey himself) is outdated and overpriced. $60 for a book that is very good for FreeBSD 3.0 and below. Sucking up eh? __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Great stuff seeking new owners in Yahoo! Auctions! http://auctions.yahoo.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Sat Feb 2 15:29:10 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from nycsmtp1out.rdc-nyc.rr.com (nycsmtp1out.rdc-nyc.rr.com [24.29.99.226]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0914037B402 for ; Sat, 2 Feb 2002 15:29:07 -0800 (PST) Received: from scott1.nyc.rr.com (24-168-24-239.nyc.rr.com [24.168.24.239]) by nycsmtp1out.rdc-nyc.rr.com (8.12.1/Road Runner SMTP Server 1.0) with ESMTP id g12NSYfa013887; Sat, 2 Feb 2002 18:28:34 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <5.1.0.14.0.20020202183006.048538b8@pop-server.nyc.rr.com> X-Sender: scottro@pop-server.nyc.rr.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Sat, 02 Feb 2002 18:33:01 -0500 To: Bzdik BSD , freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG From: Scott Subject: Re: Book Suggestions for a newbie In-Reply-To: <20020202224208.81023.qmail@web13601.mail.yahoo.com> References: <5.1.0.14.0.20020202154621.00c28e48@pop-server.nyc.rr.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org At 14:42 2002/02/02 -0800, Bzdik BSD wrote: >--- Scott wrote: > > > > > Scott > >The book (not Mr. Lehey himself) is outdated and overpriced. $60 for a >book that is very good for FreeBSD 3.0 and below. > >Sucking up eh? Sure, why not? Seriously, it's usually on ebay for under 20 dollars, and I'd have to argue the fact that it's not useful for 4.x---for a total newbie, things might be confusing as some things mentioned might be in different places, but still the book is often the first place to start. There are also errata published monthly (at least) on freebsd-questions. Scott >__________________________________________________ >Do You Yahoo!? >Great stuff seeking new owners in Yahoo! Auctions! >http://auctions.yahoo.com > >To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org >with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Sat Feb 2 17:11:20 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mail01.edsamail.com.ph (mail01.edsamail.com.ph [210.16.71.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 522C437B405 for ; Sat, 2 Feb 2002 17:11:14 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 7560 invoked from network); 3 Feb 2002 01:11:11 -0000 Received: from mail05.edsamail.com.ph (HELO edsamail.com.ph) (210.16.71.11) by mail01.edsamail.com.ph with SMTP; 3 Feb 2002 01:11:11 -0000 X-Mailer: Edsamail 1.31 (Build 1129) Date: Sun, 3 Feb 2002 09:20:22 +0800 From: "shancecgol S Yorgen" To: "freebsd-newbies" Subject: installing kernel src... Content-Type: text/plain Message-Id: <20020203011114.522C437B405@hub.freebsd.org> Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org This is my forst time using a freeBSD, bt ive been using linux for 3years now. I want to recompile my freeBSD kernel and went to the /usr/src and did not find "sys" directory in it, so i assumed that the kernel src package is not installed. I read somewhere that to install the kernel src i should run /stand/sysinstall i did that howerver i do not know what to do next. I'm not really sure what is the package name of the kernel src and where is it located in the FreeBSD CD. BTW, Im using FreeBSD 4.3. Please someone please guide me on what to do, Im an absolute newbie to FreeBSD. Thanx in advance!!! -shancecgol __________________________________ www.edsamail.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Sat Feb 2 17:27:13 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from phoenix.welearn.com.au (phoenix.welearn.com.au [139.130.44.81]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 912B237B400 for ; Sat, 2 Feb 2002 17:27:09 -0800 (PST) Received: (from sue@localhost) by phoenix.welearn.com.au (8.11.6/8.11.6) id g131R7Q38264 for freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG; Sun, 3 Feb 2002 12:27:07 +1100 (EST) (envelope-from sue) Date: Sun, 3 Feb 2002 12:27:07 +1100 From: Sue Blake To: freebsd-newbies Subject: Re: installing kernel src... Message-ID: <20020203122707.O662@welearn.com.au> Mail-Followup-To: Sue Blake , freebsd-newbies References: <20020203011114.522C437B405@hub.freebsd.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <20020203011114.522C437B405@hub.freebsd.org>; from shancecgol@edsamail.com.ph on Sun, Feb 03, 2002 at 09:20:22AM +0800 Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Answer posted to freebsd-questions. -- Regards, -*Sue*- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Sat Feb 2 17:28:20 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from femail47.sdc1.sfba.home.com (femail47.sdc1.sfba.home.com [24.254.60.41]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 32C7137B404 for ; Sat, 2 Feb 2002 17:28:16 -0800 (PST) Received: from pcp752839pcs.dalect01.va.comcast.net ([68.49.117.37]) by femail47.sdc1.sfba.home.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.20 201-229-121-120-20010223) with ESMTP id <20020203012815.MWNA9504.femail47.sdc1.sfba.home.com@pcp752839pcs.dalect01.va.comcast.net> for ; Sat, 2 Feb 2002 17:28:15 -0800 Subject: Re: installing kernel src... From: "James E. Hall" To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <20020203011114.522C437B405@hub.freebsd.org> References: <20020203011114.522C437B405@hub.freebsd.org> Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Evolution/1.0 (Preview Release) Date: 02 Feb 2002 20:27:20 -0500 Message-Id: <1012699640.4736.3.camel@sophia> Mime-Version: 1.0 Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/kernelconfig-building.html On Sat, 2002-02-02 at 20:20, shancecgol S Yorgen wrote: > This is my forst time using a freeBSD, bt ive been using linux for 3years now. I want to recompile my freeBSD kernel and went to the /usr/src and did not find "sys" directory in it, so i assumed that the kernel src package is not installed. I read somewhere that to install the kernel src i should run /stand/sysinstall i did that howerver i do not know what to do next. > > I'm not really sure what is the package name of the kernel src and where is it located in the FreeBSD CD. > BTW, Im using FreeBSD 4.3. Please someone please guide me on what to do, Im an absolute newbie to FreeBSD. > > > Thanx in advance!!! > > -shancecgol > > __________________________________ > www.edsamail.com > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Sat Feb 2 21:10:11 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from m20.unixathome.org (m20.unixathome.org [216.187.106.227]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E8A9037B402; Sat, 2 Feb 2002 21:10:07 -0800 (PST) Received: (from dan@localhost) by m20.unixathome.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) id g135A5Z24602; Sun, 3 Feb 2002 00:10:05 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from dan) Date: Sun, 3 Feb 2002 00:10:05 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <200202030510.g135A5Z24602@m20.unixathome.org> From: Dan Langille To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: The FreeBSD Diary: 2002-01-13 - 2002-02-02 Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org The FreeBSD Diary contains a large number of practical examples and how-to guides. This message is posted weekly to freebsd-questions@freebsd.org with the aim of letting people know what's available on the website. Before you post a question here it might be a good idea to first search the mailing list archives and/or The FreeBSD Diary . These are the articles posted during this period: 16-Jan : Your Makefile has been rebuilt. One very annoying failure of make buildworld... http://freebsddiary.org/badtime.php?2 14-Jan : And one port to install them all! Yeah, sorry, it\'s a cheap title... http://freebsddiary.org/meta-ports.php?2 -- Dan Langille - DVL Software Limited The FreeBSD Diary - http://freebsddiary.org/ - practical examples FreshPorts - http://freshports.org/ - the place for ports To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Sat Feb 2 21:51:34 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from ns6.icdc.com (ns6.icdc.com [208.244.152.35]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9BB9A37B405 for ; Sat, 2 Feb 2002 21:51:17 -0800 (PST) Received: from hackmasteer-2k (drkmage@peco.3.intrepid.icdc.com [208.244.152.57]) by ns6.icdc.com (8.11.3/8.11.3) with SMTP id g135k8u08016; Sun, 3 Feb 2002 00:46:09 -0500 (EST) From: "Chauncey Smith" To: "Bzdik BSD" , , "Scott" Subject: Re: Book Suggestions for a newbie Date: Sun, 3 Feb 2002 00:36:56 -0500 Message-ID: <01c1ac74$caf01500$3998f4d0@hackmasteer-2k> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.71.1712.3 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.71.1712.3 Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I've read that book but also would like to say I've found it very useful as a resource. it's the place to go for BSD questions and answers. I've also found it quite useful to have a couple of Unix books as well like the O'Reilly book Learning the Unix Operating system useful too. I find that due to the fact that I have stupid Unix questions that may or may not be found in a BSD book because it was over looked by the author as something I should really know but I don't because I've used other non Unix OS'S -----Original Message----- From: Scott To: Bzdik BSD ; freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Date: Saturday, February 02, 2002 6:29 PM Subject: Re: Book Suggestions for a newbie >At 14:42 2002/02/02 -0800, Bzdik BSD wrote: >>--- Scott wrote: >> > >> >> > Scott >> >>The book (not Mr. Lehey himself) is outdated and overpriced. $60 for a >>book that is very good for FreeBSD 3.0 and below. >> >>Sucking up eh? > > > Sure, why not? >Seriously, it's usually on ebay for under 20 dollars, and I'd have to argue >the fact that it's not useful for 4.x---for a total newbie, things might be >confusing as some things mentioned might be in different places, but still >the book is often the first place to start. > >There are also errata published monthly (at least) on freebsd-questions. > >Scott > > > >>__________________________________________________ >>Do You Yahoo!? >>Great stuff seeking new owners in Yahoo! Auctions! >>http://auctions.yahoo.com >> >>To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org >>with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message > > >To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org >with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Sat Feb 2 23:31: 3 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from cliff.cs.athabascau.ca (cliff.cs.athabascau.ca [131.232.10.7]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E2CB637B419 for ; Sat, 2 Feb 2002 23:30:57 -0800 (PST) Received: from CONVERSION-DAEMON.local.athabascau.ca by local.athabascau.ca (PMDF V6.1 #37324) id <0GQY00G014VJ7L@local.athabascau.ca> for freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org; Sun, 03 Feb 2002 00:30:57 -0700 (MST) Received: from athabascau.ca ([142.66.72.120]) by local.athabascau.ca (PMDF V6.1 #37324) with ESMTPA id <0GQY00HKA4VFVJ@local.athabascau.ca> for freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org; Sun, 03 Feb 2002 00:30:55 -0700 (MST) Date: Sun, 03 Feb 2002 00:33:15 -0700 From: Robbie Chernish Subject: subscribe To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Message-id: <3C5CE7BB.7D7B167E@athabascau.ca> Organization: Athabasca University MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.78 [en] (Win98; U) Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Accept-Language: en Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message