From owner-freebsd-binup Thu Mar 6 4:58:54 2003 Delivered-To: freebsd-binup@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 840A237B406 for ; Thu, 6 Mar 2003 04:58:53 -0800 (PST) Received: from bela.bezeqint.net (bela.bezeqint.net [192.115.106.24]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7AADE43FDD for ; Thu, 6 Mar 2003 04:58:51 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from michael@zend.com) Received: from mr5.bezeqint.net (pip-17.bezeqint.net [192.115.106.17]) by bela.bezeqint.net (Bezeq International SMTP out Mail Server) with ESMTP id 229FF341F1 for ; Thu, 6 Mar 2003 14:58:49 +0200 (IST) Received: from mail.zend.com (bzq-117-235-230.cust.bezeqint.net [192.117.235.230]) by mr5.bezeqint.net (Mirapoint Messaging Server MOS 3.2.2-GA) with SMTP id ABY91924; Thu, 6 Mar 2003 14:58:02 +0200 (IST) Received: (qmail 9399 invoked from network); 6 Mar 2003 12:57:58 -0000 Received: from gibraltar.zend.office (10.1.2.137) by bzq-117-235-230.cust.bezeqint.net with SMTP; 6 Mar 2003 12:57:58 -0000 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" From: Michael Spector Organization: Zend Technologies LTD To: freebsd-binup@freebsd.org Subject: binup project Date: Thu, 6 Mar 2003 14:59:00 +0200 User-Agent: KMail/1.4.3 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <200303061459.00436.michael@zend.com> Sender: owner-freebsd-binup@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hello All! Can anybody say me what is the status of this project? Is this possible to participate? --=20 ---------------------------------------- With best regards, Michael Spector Tel: 972-(0)54840565 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-binup" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-binup Thu Mar 6 17:15:56 2003 Delivered-To: freebsd-binup@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1B43237B401 for ; Thu, 6 Mar 2003 17:15:55 -0800 (PST) Received: from arthur.nitro.dk (port324.ds1-khk.adsl.cybercity.dk [212.242.113.79]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1F31C43FBF for ; Thu, 6 Mar 2003 17:15:54 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from simon@arthur.nitro.dk) Received: by arthur.nitro.dk (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 692A110BF83; Fri, 7 Mar 2003 02:15:52 +0100 (CET) Date: Fri, 7 Mar 2003 02:15:52 +0100 From: "Simon L. Nielsen" To: Michael Spector Cc: freebsd-binup@freebsd.org Subject: Re: binup project Message-ID: <20030307011551.GB389@nitro.dk> References: <200303061459.00436.michael@zend.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="M9NhX3UHpAaciwkO" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <200303061459.00436.michael@zend.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.3i Sender: owner-freebsd-binup@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG --M9NhX3UHpAaciwkO Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 2003.03.06 14:59:00 +0200, Michael Spector wrote: > Can anybody say me what is the status of this project? I don't think anybody are actively working on the project at the moment. A few months ago I started a development document but I have not gotten much further since I stranded on how to deal with a few issues (mainly handling of version numbers and patches). > Is this possible to participate? Certainly - anything to get things going would be very helpful. I think the current code should be replaced with something based on HTTP, but I don't know what other people on the lists things about that. A few pointers : http://www.freebsd.org/projects/updater.html http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/cvsweb.cgi/projects/binup/ http://simon.nitro.dk/binup/binup-2003.html I have coded a litle bit in PHP... mostly to try to organise my thoughts on how binup could be done. http://simon.nitro.dk/binup/code/server/ --=20 Simon L. 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Nielsen" From: Colin Percival Subject: Re: binup project Cc: freebsd-binup@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <20030307011551.GB389@nitro.dk> References: <200303061459.00436.michael@zend.com> <200303061459.00436.michael@zend.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-freebsd-binup@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG At 02:15 07/03/2003 +0100, Simon L. Nielsen wrote: >I don't think anybody are actively working on the project at the moment. It's not intended to be as extensive as -binup, but I've got some binary updates code designed for tracking the security branches; I announced an earlier version here in late December, and I intend to have a new version (with several bug fixes, and support for updating nocrypto, krb4, and krb5 versions of files appropriately) ready by the time FreeBSD 4.8 is released. 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To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-binup" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-binup Sat Mar 8 10: 3: 8 2003 Delivered-To: freebsd-binup@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ABA8537B401 for ; Sat, 8 Mar 2003 10:03:06 -0800 (PST) Received: from arthur.nitro.dk (port324.ds1-khk.adsl.cybercity.dk [212.242.113.79]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 836CC43F75 for ; Sat, 8 Mar 2003 10:03:05 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from simon@arthur.nitro.dk) Received: by arthur.nitro.dk (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 7272010BF90; Sat, 8 Mar 2003 19:03:03 +0100 (CET) Date: Sat, 8 Mar 2003 19:03:03 +0100 From: "Simon L. Nielsen" To: Colin Percival Cc: freebsd-binup@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: binup project Message-ID: <20030308180302.GA431@nitro.dk> References: <200303061459.00436.michael@zend.com> <200303061459.00436.michael@zend.com> <5.0.2.1.1.20030307134749.01d80ba8@popserver.sfu.ca> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="Dxnq1zWXvFF0Q93v" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <5.0.2.1.1.20030307134749.01d80ba8@popserver.sfu.ca> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.3i Sender: owner-freebsd-binup@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG --Dxnq1zWXvFF0Q93v Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 2003.03.07 13:55:06 +0000, Colin Percival wrote: > >I don't think anybody are actively working on the project at the moment. > It's not intended to be as extensive as -binup, but I've got some binar= y=20 > updates code designed for tracking the security branches; I announced an= =20 > earlier version here in late December, and I intend to have a new version= =20 > (with several bug fixes, and support for updating nocrypto, krb4, and krb= 5=20 > versions of files appropriately) ready by the time FreeBSD 4.8 is release= d. I remember looking at it and it looked very interesting. If I remember corr= ectly on "only" deals with making/applying updated and not the distribution right? Perhaps your code could be put together with the simple HTTP protocol I was looking at to actually get a complete remote binary updater... It could be a start for a full binup. --=20 Simon L. Nielsen --Dxnq1zWXvFF0Q93v Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQE+ajBW8kocFXgPTRwRAqtGAJwNHnMmlIO7d2oRWX6l0zznODo4xACfdLIG Ng9voDGclIZ2ZJpdzbLt6uA= =U/yO -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Dxnq1zWXvFF0Q93v-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-binup" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-binup Sat Mar 8 14:34:44 2003 Delivered-To: freebsd-binup@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EA56737B401 for ; Sat, 8 Mar 2003 14:34:42 -0800 (PST) Received: from mta06-svc.ntlworld.com (mta06-svc.ntlworld.com [62.253.162.46]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CCA2743F75 for ; Sat, 8 Mar 2003 14:34:41 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from colin.percival@wadham.ox.ac.uk) Received: from piii600.wadham.ox.ac.uk ([81.103.196.4]) by mta06-svc.ntlworld.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.27 201-229-121-127-20010626) with ESMTP id <20030308223440.OKL8575.mta06-svc.ntlworld.com@piii600.wadham.ox.ac.uk>; Sat, 8 Mar 2003 22:34:40 +0000 Message-Id: <5.0.2.1.1.20030308222612.033d0e90@popserver.sfu.ca> X-Sender: cperciva@popserver.sfu.ca X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.0.2 Date: Sat, 08 Mar 2003 22:34:37 +0000 To: "Simon L. Nielsen" From: Colin Percival Subject: Re: binup project Cc: freebsd-binup@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <20030308180302.GA431@nitro.dk> References: <5.0.2.1.1.20030307134749.01d80ba8@popserver.sfu.ca> <200303061459.00436.michael@zend.com> <200303061459.00436.michael@zend.com> <5.0.2.1.1.20030307134749.01d80ba8@popserver.sfu.ca> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-freebsd-binup@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG At 19:03 08/03/2003 +0100, Simon L. Nielsen wrote: >I remember looking at it and it looked very interesting. If I remember >correctly >on "only" deals with making/applying updated and not the distribution right? > >Perhaps your code could be put together with the simple HTTP protocol I was >looking at to actually get a complete remote binary updater... It could be a >start for a full binup. My code cryptographically signs the updates; they can then be distributed by whatever means is convenient (http, ftp, shortwave radio broadcast...) although since the client code uses fetch(1) that imposes some restrictions. Doing things this way, in addition to eliminating spoofing attacks, also makes it possible for the severely paranoid to perform all secure operations on a system which is physically disconnected from the Internet (and copy the update files to a webserver via sneakernet). Colin Percival To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-binup" in the body of the message