From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Aug 24 03:28:42 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@hub.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B121616A4BF; Sun, 24 Aug 2003 03:28:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 427AA43F75; Sun, 24 Aug 2003 03:28:42 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from simon@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (simon@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h7OASgUp040178; Sun, 24 Aug 2003 03:28:42 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from simon@freefall.freebsd.org) Received: (from simon@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.12.9/8.12.9/Submit) id h7OASfwJ040169; Sun, 24 Aug 2003 03:28:41 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sun, 24 Aug 2003 03:28:41 -0700 (PDT) From: "Simon L. Nielsen" Message-Id: <200308241028.h7OASfwJ040169@freefall.freebsd.org> To: swp@uni-altai.ru, simon@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: docs/43416: pw(8) -u uidmin,uidmax feature is out of man X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 24 Aug 2003 10:28:42 -0000 Synopsis: pw(8) -u uidmin,uidmax feature is out of man State-Changed-From-To: open->closed State-Changed-By: simon State-Changed-When: Sun Aug 24 03:27:52 PDT 2003 State-Changed-Why: Close at submitters request. http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=43416 From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Aug 24 04:09:50 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@hub.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8592A16A4BF; Sun, 24 Aug 2003 04:09:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C8C4143FF5; Sun, 24 Aug 2003 04:09:49 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from simon@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (simon@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h7OB9nUp048543; Sun, 24 Aug 2003 04:09:49 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from simon@freefall.freebsd.org) Received: (from simon@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.12.9/8.12.9/Submit) id h7OB9mV9048539; Sun, 24 Aug 2003 04:09:48 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sun, 24 Aug 2003 04:09:48 -0700 (PDT) From: "Simon L. Nielsen" Message-Id: <200308241109.h7OB9mV9048539@freefall.freebsd.org> To: j.el-rayes@daemon.li, simon@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: docs/54574: [patch] fixed b0rked X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 24 Aug 2003 11:09:50 -0000 Synopsis: [patch] fixed b0rked State-Changed-From-To: open->closed State-Changed-By: simon State-Changed-When: Sun Aug 24 04:05:33 PDT 2003 State-Changed-Why: This is due to ghostscript failing when built with A4=yes, as noted by blackend in the message 20030719105828.GB572@nosferatu.blackend.org . We can't really do much about this since it's a ghostscript issue. Submitter is OK with PR being closed. http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=54574 From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Aug 24 04:11:52 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B1DE816A4BF; Sun, 24 Aug 2003 04:11:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: from Kain.sumuk.de (Kain.sumuk.de [213.221.86.114]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1205A43FAF; Sun, 24 Aug 2003 04:11:49 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from vincent@sumuk.de) Received: from Moses.earth.sol (Moses.earth.sol [192.168.1.1]) by Kain.sumuk.de (8.12.9/8.12.8) with ESMTP id h7OBBlZ6032057; Sun, 24 Aug 2003 13:11:47 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from vincent@sumuk.de) Received: from Moses.earth.sol (localhost.earth.sol [127.0.0.1]) by Moses.earth.sol (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id h7OBBjPg064693; Sun, 24 Aug 2003 13:11:46 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from vincent@Moses.earth.sol) Received: (from vincent@localhost) by Moses.earth.sol (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id h7OBBjZ4064692; Sun, 24 Aug 2003 13:11:45 +0200 (CEST) Date: Sun, 24 Aug 2003 13:11:44 +0200 From: Martin Heinen To: Tom Rhodes Message-ID: <20030824131144.A62111@sumuk.de> References: <20030823092754.1e3dc84c.trhodes@FreeBSD.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <20030823092754.1e3dc84c.trhodes@FreeBSD.org>; from trhodes@freebsd.org on Sat, Aug 23, 2003 at 09:27:54AM -0400 cc: FreeBSD-doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: [Review Request: Kerberos5] handbook security chapter review X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: FreeBSD-doc@freebsd.org List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 24 Aug 2003 11:11:52 -0000 On Sat, Aug 23, 2003 at 09:27:54AM -0400, Tom Rhodes wrote: > Greetings, > > Here I bring the kerberos5 handbook section to everyone for review. Great, thanks to both of you. You will find my suggestions inline. There are a lot of contractions (you're) inside which need to be expanded (I did not mark them all). > This was submitted to me in plain text, thus I did 95% of the > mark up. All mistakes are mine and should be pointed out to > me. I plan to commit this on Monday, or even Sunday night EST > if I get enough review. Thanks! This is a long patch to review, it took me at least three runs :-) > --- chapter.old Sat Aug 23 08:11:30 2003 > +++ chapter.sgml Sat Aug 23 09:21:11 2003 > @@ -106,7 +106,7 @@ > servers – meaning that external entities can connect and talk > to them. As yesterday's mini-computers and mainframes become > today's desktops, and as computers become networked and > - internetworked, security becomes an even bigger issue. > + inter-networked, security becomes an even bigger issue. This would be a separate commit? > > Security is best implemented through a layered > onion approach. In a nutshell, what you want to do is > @@ -1919,6 +1919,740 @@ > FreeBSD BUILT-19950429 (GR386) #0: Sat Apr 29 17:50:09 SAT 1995 > > [ ... ] > + <application>Kerberos5</application> > + > + Every &os; release beyond &os;-5.1 includes support > + only for Kerberos5. Hence > + Kerberos5 is the only version > + included, and its configuration is similar in many aspects > + to that of KerberosIV. The following > + information should only apply to ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ ... applies only to > + Kerberos5 in post &os;-5.0 > + releases. > + > + Kerberos is a network add-on > + system/protocol that allows users to authenticate themselves > + through the services of a secure server. Services such as remote > + login, remote copy, secure inter-system file copying and other > + high-risk tasks are made considerably safer and more > + controllable. [1] (reference, see below) The introduction should also explain the common Kerberos buzzwords (e.g. tickets, principals). > + > + Kerberos can be described as an > + identity-verifying proxy system. It can also be described as a > + trusted third-party authentication system. > + > + Note that Kerberos provides only > + authentication services and nothing more. Therefore it is highly > + recommended that Kerberos be used with > + other security methods which authorization and audit services. ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ ... which provide authorization > + > + The following instructions can be used as a guide on how to set > + up Kerberos as distributed for &os;. > + However, you should refer to the relevant manual pages for a complete > + description. > + > + For purposes of demonstrating a Kerberos > + installation, the various namespaceswill be handled as follows: ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ ... namespaces will > + > + > + > + The DNS domain (zone) will be example.prv. > + > + > + > + The Kerberos realm will be > + EXAMPLE.PRV. > + > + All domain names in examples should be "example.org". > + > + Please refrain from the use of these namespaces in the real > + world. Not only will it not be optimal for your network and > + DNS server, it will make interoperating with other > + Kerberos realms more difficult. I would like to put this into a note and reformulate it a bit: Please use real domain names when setting up Kerberos. This avoids DNS problems and assures interoperation with other Kerberos realms. > + > + > + Background: History If history is background information, then there is no need to state this: History > + > + Kerberos was created by > + MIT as a solution to network security problems. > + The Kerberos protocol uses strong > + cryptography so that a client can prove its identity to a server > + (and vice versa) across an insecure network connection. > + > + Kerberos provides only one > + function -- the secure authentication of users on the network. It ^^ — > + does not provide authorization functions (what those users are > + able to perform) or auditing fuctions (what those users did). Maybe "what users are allowed to do" sounds better? > + After a client and server have used > + Kerberos to prove their identity, they > + can also encrypt all of their communications to assure privacy > + and data integrity as they go about their business. > + > + Kerberos is both the name of a > + network authentication protocol and an adjective to describe > + programs that implement the program > + (Kerberos telnet, for example). The > + current version of the protocol is version 5, described in > + RFC 1510. Kerberos ^ RFC 1510. > + was designed to provide strong authentication for client/server > + applications (such as traditional Internet services like > + FTP and telnet) by using secret-key > + cryptography. The purpose of Kerberos was already described above [1]. The last sentence could be removed. > + > + Several free implementations of this protocol are available, > + covering a wide range of operating systems. The Massachusetts > + Institute of Technology, where Kerberos > + was originally developed, continues to develop their > + Kerberos package and it is commonly used Split this into two sentences? package. Kerberos is commonly ... > + in the US (as a cryptography product, it has > + historically been affected by US export > + regulations). The MIT > + Kerberos is available as a port > + (security/krb5). Heimdal > + Kerberos is another version 5 > + implementation, and was explicitly developed outside of the > + US to avoid export > + regulations (and is thus often included in non-commercial Unix ^^^^ UNIX or &unix; > + variants). The Heimdal Kerberos > + distribution is available as a port > + (security/heimdal), and a > + minimal installation of it is included in the base &os; > + install. > + > + In order to reach the widest audience, these instructions assume > + the use of the Heimdal distribution included in &os;. > + > + > + > + > + Background: <application>KerberosIV</application> and > + <application>Kerberos</application> 5 > + > + Older versions of Kerberos included both > + KerberosIV (eBones) and > + Kerberos 5 (Heimdal). Support for > + KerberosIV has been dropped as of &os; > + 5.0. > + > + This section tells nothing new and should be removed. > + > + > + Setting up a Heimdal <acronym>KDC</acronym> > + > + The KDC, or Key Distribution Center, is the The Key Distribution Center (KDC) > + centralized authentication service that > + Kerberos provides -- it is the computer — > + that issues Kerberos tickets. The > + KDC is considered trusted by all > + other computers in the Kerberos realm, and thus ^^^^^^^^^ > + has heightened security concerns. > + > + Note that while running the Kerberos > + server requires very few computing resources, a dedicated machine > + acting only as a KDC is recommended for security > + reasons. > + > + To begin setting up a KDC, ensure that your > + /etc/rc.conf file contains the correct > + settings to act as a KDC (you may need to adjust > + paths to reflect your own system): > + > + Kerberos5_server_enable="YES" > +kadmind5_server_enable="YES" > +Kerberos_stash="YES" Don't know exactly: ... kerberos5_server_enable="YES" CURRENT does not have "Kerberos_stash" in /etc/defaults/rc.conf. > + > + Next we'll set up your Kerberos we will > + config file, /etc/krb5.conf: > + > + [libdefaults] > + default_realm = EXAMPLE.PRV > +[realms] > + EXAMPLE.PRV = { > + kdc = Kerberos.example.prv ^^^^^^^^^^^^^ I don't think we should markup to program listings. The listings are provided as is. > + } > +[domain_realm] > + .example.prv = EXAMPLE.PRV > + > + Note that this /etc/krb5.conf file implies > + that your KDC will have the fully-qualified > + hostname of Kerberos.example.prv. You will need > + to add a CNAME (alias) entry to your zone file to accomplish this > + if your KDC has a different hostname. > + > + Next we will create the Kerberos > + database. The keys of all the principals are stored in this > + database in encrypted form with a master password. You are not How about: The database contains the keys of all principals encrypted with a master password. > + required to remember this password, it will be stored in a file > + (/var/heimdal/m-key). To create the master > + key, run kstash and enter a password. > + > + Once the master key has been created, you can initialize the > + database using the kadmin program with the > + -l option (standing for local). > + This option instructs kadmin to modify the > + database files directly rather than going through the > + kadmind network service. This handles the > + chicken-and-egg problem of trying to connect to the database > + before it is created. Once you have the kadmin> ^ kadmin > + prompt, use the init command to create your > + realms initial database. > + > + Lastly, while still in kadmin, create your > + first principal using the add command. Stick > + to the defaults options for the principal for now, you can always > + change them later with the modify command. > + Note that you can use the ? command at any > + prompt to see the available options are. ^^^^^ available options. > + > + A sample database creation session is shown below: > + > + &prompt.root;kstash > +Master key: xxxxxxxx > +Verifying password - Master key: xxxxxxxx > + > +&prompt.root;kadmin -l > +kadmin> init EXAMPLE.PRV > +Realm max ticket life [unlimited]: > +kadmin> add tillman > +Max ticket life [unlimited]: > +Max renewable life [unlimited]: > +Attributes []: > +Password: xxxxxxxx > +Verifying password - Password: xxxxxxxx This should be a screen element and entered text should be marked up with tags. There should be space between the prompt and the command. > + > + Now it's time to start up the KDC services. ^^^^ ... it is > + Run /etc/rc.d/Kerberos start and > + /etc/rc.d/kadmind start to bring up the > + services. Note that you won't have any Kerberized daemons running > + at this point but you should be able to confirm the that the > + KDC is functioning by obtaining and listing a > + ticket for the principal (user) that you just created from the > + command-line of the KDC itself: > + > + &prompt.user;k5init tillman > +tillman@EXAMPLE.PRV's Password: > + > +&prompt.user;k5list > +Credentials cache: FILE:/tmp/krb5cc_500 > + Principal: tillman@EXAMPLE.PRV > + > + Issued Expires Principal > +Aug 27 15:37:58 Aug 28 01:37:58 krbtgt/EXAMPLE.PRV@EXAMPLE.PRV > +Aug 27 15:37:58 Aug 28 01:37:58 krbtgt/EXAMPLE.PRV@EXAMPLE.PRV > + > +v4-ticket file: /tmp/tkt500 > +k5list: No ticket file (tf_util) This "screen shot" should use too. > + > + > + > + > + <application>Kerberos</application> enabling a server with > + Heimdal services > + > + First, we need a copy of the Kerberos > + configuration file, /etc/krb5.conf. To do > + so, simply copy it over to the client computer from the > + KDC in a secure fashion (using the network, > + such as scp, or physically via a > + floppy). Does /etc/krb5.conf really need to be transfered in a secure fashion? After all, it contains only information which is already public. > + > + Next you need a /etc/krb5.keytab file. > + This is the major difference between a server provide ^^^^^^^ ... providing > + Kerberos enabled daemons and a > + workstation -- the server must have a keytab file. This file — "keytab" and all further instances should probably be marked up with keytab. > + contains the servers host key, which allows it and the > + KDC to verify each others identity. It > + must be transmitted to the server in a secure fashion, as the > + security of the server can be broken if the key is made public. > + This explicitly means that transferring it via a clear text > + channel, such as FTP, is a very bad idea. Instead of stating what not to do, it is better to explain how to transfer the file in a secure fashion (scp, floppy). > + > + Typically, you transfer to the keytab to the server using the ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ ... transfer the keytab file to > + kadmin program. This is handy because you also > + need to create the host principal (the KDC end > + of the krb5.keytab) using > + kadmin. > + [ ... ] > + &prompt.root;kadmin > +kadmin> add --random-key host/myserver.example.prv > +Max ticket life [unlimited]: > +Max renewable life [unlimited]: > +Attributes []: > +kadmin> ext host/myserver.example.prv > +kadmin> exit > + > + Note that the ext command (short for > + extract) stores the extracted key in > + /etc/krb5.keytab by default, which is > + handy. Delete "which is handy" The example following proves that this is not handy :-) > + > + If you do not have kadmind running on the > + KDC (possibly for security reasons) and thus > + do not have access to kadmin remotely, you > + can add the host principal > + (host/myserver.example.prv) directly on the > + KDC and then extract it to a temporary file > + (to avoid over-writing the /etc/krb5.keytab > + on the KDC) using something like this: > + > + &prompt.root;kadmin > +kadmin> ext --keytab=/tmp/example.keytab host/myserver.smithclan.prv > +kadmin> exit > + > + You can then securely copy the keytab to the server > + computer (using scp or a floppy, for > + example). Be sure to specify a non-default keytab name > + to avoid over-writing the keytab on the > + KDC ^^ Missing ".". > + > + At this point your server can communicate with the > + KDC (due to it's krb5.conf > + file) and it can prove it's own identity (due to the > + krb5.keytab file). It's now ready for ... It is now > + you to enable some Kerberos services. > + For this example we will enable the telnet > + service by putting a line like this into your > + /etc/inetd.conf and then restarting the > + inetd service with > + /etc/rc.d inetd restart: > + > + telnet stream tcp nowait root /usr/libexec/telnetd telnetd -a user > + > + The critical bit is that the -a > + (for authentication) type is set to user. Consult for the > + telnetd man page for more details. ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ &man.telnetd.8; > + > + > + > + > + <application>Kerberos</application> enabling a client with Heimdal > + > + Setting up a client computer is almost trivially easy. As > + far as Kerberos configuration goes, > + you only need the Kerberos > + configuration file, located at /etc/krb5.conf. > + Simply securely copy it over to the client computer from the ^^^^^^^^ See above. > + KDC. > + > + Test your client computer by attempting to use > + kinit, klist and > + kdestroy from the client to obtain, show, and > + then delete a ticket for the principal you created above. You > + should also be to use Kerberos ^^^^^ Missing "able". > + applications to connect to Kerberos > + enabled servers, though if that doesn't work and obtaining a ^^^^^^^ ... does not > + ticket does the problem is likely with the server and not with > + the client or the KDC. [ ... ] > + > + User config file: .k5login and .k5users .k5login and .k5users > + > + Users within a realm typically have their > + Kerberos principal (such as > + tillman@EXAMPLE.PRV) mapped to a local > + user account (such as a local account named > + tillman). This well as the user account > + usually does not have to be specified when using a client > + application such as telnet. How about: Client applications such as telnet usually do not require a user name or a principal. > + > + Occasionally, however, you want to grant access to a local > + user account to someone who does not have a matching > + Kerberos principal. For example, > + tillman@EXAMPLE.PRV may need access to the > + local user account webdevelopers. Other > + principals may also need access to that local account. > + > + The .k5login and > + .k5users files, placed in a users home > + directory, can be used similar to a powerful combination of > + .hosts and sudo, solving I don't know if everyone is familar with sudo. The file .k5login is similar to .rhosts, which is well known. > + this problem. For example, if a .k5login > + with the following contents: [ ... ] > + > + Troubleshooting > + > + > + > + When using either the Heimdal or MIT > + Kerberos ports ensure that your > + PATH environment variable lists the ^^^^^^^^^ > + Kerberos versions of the client > + applications before the system versions. > + > + > + > + Is your time in sync? Are you sure? If the time is not in > + sync (typically within five minutes) authentication often > + fails. It will fail: ... minutes) authentication fails. > + > + > + > + MITand Heimdal interoperate nicely. ^^^ ... and > + Except for kadmin, the protocol for > + which is not standardized. > + > + > + > + If you change your hostname, you also need to change your > + host/ principal and update your keytab. > + This also applies to special keytab entries like the > + www/ principal used for Apache's > + mod_auth_kerb. > + > + > + > + All hosts in your realm must be resolvable (both forwards > + and reverse) in DNS (or > + /etc/hosts as a minimum). CNAMEs > + will work, but the A and PTR records must be correct and in > + place. The error message isn't very intuitive: > + KerberosV5 refuses authentication because Read req ^^^^^^^ is for error messages. > + failed: Key table entry not found. > + > + > + > + Some operating systems that may being acting as clients > + to your KDC do not set the permissions > + for ksu to be setuid > + root. This means that > + ksu does not work, which is a good > + security idea but annoying. This is not a > + KDC error. > + > + > + > + With MIT > + Kerberos, if you want to allow a > + principal to have a ticket life longer than the default ten ^^^^ lifetime > + hours, you must use modify_prinicpal in > + kadmin to change the maxlife of both the > + principal in question and the krbtgt > + principal. Then the principal can use the > + option with kinit > + to request a ticket with a longer life. ^^^^^ lifetime > + > + > + > + Note: If you run a packet sniffer on your > + KDC to add in troubleshooting and then run > + kinit from a workstation, you will notice > + that your TGT is sent immediately upon > + running kinit -- even before you type your — > + password! The explanation is that the > + Kerberos server freely transmits a > + TGT to any unauthorized request ... however, Is "..." really needed here? &ellip; > + every TGT is encrypted in a key derived from > + the user's password. Therefore, when a user types their > + password it is not being sent to the KDC, > + it's being used to decrypt the TGT that it is ... > + kinit already obtained. If the decryption > + process results in a valid ticket with a valid time stamp, the > + user has valid Kerberos credentials. > + These credentials include a session key for establishing secure > + communications with the Kerberos > + server in the future, as well as the actual ticket-granting > + ticket, which is actually encrypted with the > + Kerberos server's own key. This > + second layer of encryption is unknown to the user, but it's what it is ... > + allows the Kerberos server to verify > + the authenticity of each TGT. > + > + > + > + > + <application>Kerberos</application> Tips Time synchronization and ticket lifetimes were discussed in "Troubleshooting". How about one section "Tips and Troubleshooting"? > + > + > + > + > + You have to keep the time in sync between all the > + computers in your realm. NTP is > + perfect for this. > + > + > + > + If you want to use long ticket lifetimes (a week, for > + example) and you are using OpenSSH > + to connect to the machine where your ticket is stored, make > + sure that Kerberos > + is set to no > + in your sshd_config or else your tickets > + will be deleted when you log out. > + > + > + > + Remember that host principals can have a longer ticket > + life as well. If your user principal has a lifetime of a ^^^^ ... lifetime > + week but the host you're connecting to has a lifetime of nine > + hours, you will have an expired host principal in your cache > + and the ticket cache will not work as expected. > + > + > + > + When setting up a krb5.dict file to > + prevent specific bad passwords from being used (the man page for ^^^^^^^^ manual page > + kadmind covers this briefly), remember that > + it only applies to principals that have a password policy > + assigned to them. The krb5.dict files > + format is simple: one string per line. Creating a symlink to ^^^^^^^ symbolic link > + /usr/share/dict/words might be > + useful. > + > + > + > + > + > + > + Differences with the MIT port > + > + The major differences between the MIT difference > + and Heimdal installs relates to the kadmin > + program which has a different (but equivalent) set of commands > + and uses a different protocol. This has a large implications > + if your KDC is MIT as you > + will not be able to use the Heimdal kadmin > + program to administer your KDC remotely > + (or vice versa, for that matter). > + > + The client applications may also take slightly different > + command line options to accomplish the same tasks. Following > + the instructions on the MIT > + Kerberos web site () > + is recommended. Be careful of path issues: the > + MIT port installs into > + /usr/local/ by default, and the > + normal system applications may be run instead > + of MIT if your PATH > + environment variable lists the system directories first. > + > + Important note: With the MIT krb5 port > + that is provided by &os;, be sure and read the > + /usr/local/share/doc/krb5/README.FreeBSD > + file installed by the port if you want to understand why logins > + via telnetd and klogind > + behave somewhat oddly. Most importantly, correcting the > + incorrect permissions on cache file behavior > + requires that the login.krb5 binary be used > + for authentication so that it can properly chown the forwarded chown does not seem to be a proper verb. > + credentials. > + > + > + > + > + Mitigating limitations found in <application>Kerberos</application> > + > + > + <application>Kerberos</application> is an all-or-nothing approach > + > + Every service enabled on the network must be modified to > + work with Kerberos (or be otherwise > + secured against network attacks) or else the users credentials > + could be stolen and re-used. An example of this would be > + Kerberos enabling all remote shells > + (via rsh and telnet, for > + example) but not converting the POP3 mail > + server ... which sends passwords in plaintext. &ellip; if it is really needed here. > + > + > + > + > + <application>Kerberos</application> is intended for single-user workstations > + > + In a multi-user environment, > + Kerberos is less secure. This is > + because it stores the tickets in the global What is "global" about /tmp? ... in the /tmp directory > + /tmp directory, which is readable by all > + users. If a user is sharing a computer with several other > + people simultaneously (i.e. multi-user), it is possible that > + the user's tickets can be stolen (copied) by another > + user. > + > + This can be overcome with the -c > + filename command-line option or (preferably) the > + KRB5CCNAME environment variable, but this > + is rarely done. In principal, storing the ticket in the users > + home directory and using simple file permissions can mitigate > + this problem. > + > + > + > + > + The KDC is a single point of security failure The KDC is a single point of failure It's not only about security: If you loose the master database, everything is lost! > + > + By design, the KDC must be secure as must be as secure as > + the master password database is contained on it. The > + KDC should have absolutely no other > + services running on it and should be physically secured. The > + danger is high because Kerberos > + stores all passwords encrypted with the same key (the > + master key), which in turn is stored as a file > + on the KDC. > + > + As a side note, a compromised master key is not quite as > + bad as one might normally fear. The master key is only used > + to encrypt the Kerberos database > + and as a seed for the random number generator. As long as > + access to your KDC is secure, an attacker > + cannot do much with the master key. > + > + Additionally, if the KDC is unavailable > + (perhaps due to a denial of service attack or network problems) > + the network services are unusable as authentication can not be > + performed, a recipe for a denail-of-service attack. This can > + alleviated with multiple KDCs (a single KDCs > + master and one or more slaves) and with careful implementation > + of secondary or fall-back authentication > + (PAM is excellent for this). > + > + [ ... ] -- Marxpitn From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Aug 24 04:21:23 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@hub.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A09DF16A4BF; Sun, 24 Aug 2003 04:21:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3231143F85; Sun, 24 Aug 2003 04:21:23 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from simon@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (simon@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h7OBLNUp049305; Sun, 24 Aug 2003 04:21:23 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from simon@freefall.freebsd.org) Received: (from simon@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.12.9/8.12.9/Submit) id h7OBLMO6049301; Sun, 24 Aug 2003 04:21:22 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sun, 24 Aug 2003 04:21:22 -0700 (PDT) From: "Simon L. Nielsen" Message-Id: <200308241121.h7OBLMO6049301@freefall.freebsd.org> To: murphyp1@ais.msu.edu, simon@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: misc/33926: Search function on website can not access freebsd-questions X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 24 Aug 2003 11:21:23 -0000 Synopsis: Search function on website can not access freebsd-questions State-Changed-From-To: open->closed State-Changed-By: simon State-Changed-When: Sun Aug 24 04:16:37 PDT 2003 State-Changed-Why: Feedback timeout. Sometimes the update of the search engine fails, which causes it to not work at all untill next update, it's not a general problem. http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=33926 From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Aug 24 04:27:10 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3BBB716A4BF for ; Sun, 24 Aug 2003 04:27:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: from arthur.nitro.dk (port324.ds1-khk.adsl.cybercity.dk [212.242.113.79]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8A7C743FB1 for ; Sun, 24 Aug 2003 04:27:09 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from simon@arthur.nitro.dk) Received: by arthur.nitro.dk (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 474C710BF89; Sun, 24 Aug 2003 13:27:08 +0200 (CEST) Date: Sun, 24 Aug 2003 13:27:08 +0200 From: "Simon L. Nielsen" To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Message-ID: <20030824112707.GB399@FreeBSD.org> References: <200308241121.h7OBLMO6049301@freefall.freebsd.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="f2QGlHpHGjS2mn6Y" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <200308241121.h7OBLMO6049301@freefall.freebsd.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.4i cc: Patrick Murphy Subject: Re: misc/33926: Search function on website can not access freebsd-questions X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 24 Aug 2003 11:27:10 -0000 --f2QGlHpHGjS2mn6Y Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 2003.08.24 04:21:22 -0700, Simon L. Nielsen wrote: > Synopsis: Search function on website can not access freebsd-questions >=20 > State-Changed-From-To: open->closed > State-Changed-By: simon > State-Changed-When: Sun Aug 24 04:16:37 PDT 2003 > State-Changed-Why:=20 > Feedback timeout. >=20 > Sometimes the update of the search engine fails, which causes it to > not work at all untill next update, it's not a general problem. I actually just noticed (after closing the PR) that the search engine is not working at the moment. I have written webmaster about it, so hopefully they can fix it. --=20 Simon L. Nielsen FreeBSD Documentation Team --f2QGlHpHGjS2mn6Y Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.3 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQE/SKELh9pcDSc1mlERAvAuAJwNYMVxi64elgDyW9cJeIZHrsHX2wCfQ1aJ TExo7NTqen0ESZtMqCgmEkc= =HZgx -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --f2QGlHpHGjS2mn6Y-- From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Aug 24 06:20:15 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@hub.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AAC4816A4BF for ; Sun, 24 Aug 2003 06:20:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6375D43FB1 for ; Sun, 24 Aug 2003 06:20:14 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (gnats@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h7ODKEUp069508 for ; Sun, 24 Aug 2003 06:20:14 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats@freefall.freebsd.org) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.12.9/8.12.9/Submit) id h7ODKEdX069507; Sun, 24 Aug 2003 06:20:14 -0700 (PDT) Resent-Date: Sun, 24 Aug 2003 06:20:14 -0700 (PDT) Resent-Message-Id: <200308241320.h7ODKEdX069507@freefall.freebsd.org> Resent-From: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.org (GNATS Filer) Resent-To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Resent-Reply-To: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.org, Josef El-Rayes Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EEA4A16A4BF for ; Sun, 24 Aug 2003 06:12:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail.ac-net.at (secure.ac-net.at [212.24.125.8]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7838E43FDF for ; Sun, 24 Aug 2003 06:12:00 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from shammer@daemon.li) Received: from localhost (server.ac-net.at [127.0.0.1]) by mail.ac-net.at (AC-net Mailserver v1.3a) with ESMTP id C652B3F77 for ; Sun, 24 Aug 2003 15:11:51 +0200 (CEST) Received: from daemon.li (dsl-152-250.utaonline.at [62.218.152.250]) by mail.ac-net.at (AC-net Mailserver v1.3a) with SMTP id 90DC23F5D for ; Sun, 24 Aug 2003 13:11:50 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 1261 invoked from network); 24 Aug 2003 13:14:17 -0000 Received: from localhost (HELO daemon.li) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 24 Aug 2003 13:14:17 -0000 Received: (from shammer@localhost) by daemon.li (8.12.6/8.12.7/Submit) id h7ODEGS2001259; Sun, 24 Aug 2003 15:14:16 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from shammer) Message-Id: <200308241314.h7ODEGS2001259@daemon.li> Date: Sun, 24 Aug 2003 15:14:16 +0200 (CEST) From: Josef El-Rayes To: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.org X-Send-Pr-Version: 3.113 Subject: docs/55923: [patch] articles/laptop: fix bad english + minor sgml issues X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Josef El-Rayes List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 24 Aug 2003 13:20:15 -0000 >Number: 55923 >Category: docs >Synopsis: [patch] articles/laptop: fix bad english + minor sgml issues >Confidential: no >Severity: non-critical >Priority: low >Responsible: freebsd-doc >State: open >Quarter: >Keywords: >Date-Required: >Class: update >Submitter-Id: current-users >Arrival-Date: Sun Aug 24 06:20:13 PDT 2003 >Closed-Date: >Last-Modified: >Originator: Josef El-Rayes >Release: FreeBSD 4.8-STABLE i386 >Organization: >Environment: System: FreeBSD daemon.li 4.8-STABLE FreeBSD 4.8-STABLE #8: Tue Jul 22 18:16:23 CEST 2003 root@daemon.li:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/CUSTOM i386 >Description: doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/articles/laptop/article.sgml: 1) "...FreeBSD can not seem to use..." this is not correct english 2) added very useful link to a freebsd laptops compatibility database 3) replaced "FreeBSD" with &os; >How-To-Repeat: >Fix: --- article.sgml.diff begins here --- --- article.sgml.orig Sun Aug 24 14:21:53 2003 +++ article.sgml Sun Aug 24 15:06:27 2003 @@ -14,19 +14,19 @@
- FreeBSD on Laptops + &os; on Laptops $FreeBSD: doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/articles/laptop/article.sgml,v 1.15 2003/06/20 18:02:53 blackend Exp $ - FreeBSD works fine on most laptops, with a few caveats. - Some issues specific to running FreeBSD on laptops, relating + &os; works fine on most laptops, with a few caveats. + Some issues specific to running &os; on laptops, relating to different hardware requirements from desktops, are discussed below. - FreeBSD is often thought of as a server operating system, but + &os; is often thought of as a server operating system, but it works just fine on the desktop, and if you want to use it on your laptop you can enjoy all the usual benefits: systematic layout, easy administration and upgrading, the ports/packages @@ -42,7 +42,11 @@ part of the &os; documentation. You might very well find some information if you type the name of your laptop model and the word &os; into a search engine of your - choice. + choice. + Additionally there is a &os;-specific online database which aims to + give information on hardware issues with laptops, the + FreeBSD Laptops Compatibility List. + XFree86 @@ -107,7 +111,7 @@ PCMCIA (PC Card) devices Most laptops come with PCMCIA (also called PC Card) - slots; these are supported fine under FreeBSD. Look through + slots; these are supported fine under &os;. Look through your boot-up messages (using &man.dmesg.8;) and see whether these were detected correctly (they should appear as pccard0, @@ -145,8 +149,8 @@ log messages about new devices being enabled. There have been major changes to the pccard code - (including ISA routing of interrupts, for machines whose - PCI BIOS FreeBSD can not seem to use) before the FreeBSD 4.4 + (including ISA routing of interrupts, for machines where + &os; is not able to use the PCI BIOS) before the &os; 4.4 release. If you have problems, try upgrading your system. @@ -156,7 +160,7 @@ Power management Unfortunately, this is not very reliably supported under - FreeBSD. If you are lucky, some functions may work reliably; + &os;. If you are lucky, some functions may work reliably; or they may not work at all. To make things a little more complex, there are two existing --- article.sgml.diff ends here --- >Release-Note: >Audit-Trail: >Unformatted: From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Aug 24 06:46:55 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@hub.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 11DDC16A4BF; Sun, 24 Aug 2003 06:46:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 920E243FDF; Sun, 24 Aug 2003 06:46:54 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from blackend@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (blackend@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h7ODksUp074507; Sun, 24 Aug 2003 06:46:54 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from blackend@freefall.freebsd.org) Received: (from blackend@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.12.9/8.12.9/Submit) id h7ODksa8074503; Sun, 24 Aug 2003 06:46:54 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sun, 24 Aug 2003 06:46:54 -0700 (PDT) From: Marc Fonvieille Message-Id: <200308241346.h7ODksa8074503@freefall.freebsd.org> To: j.el-rayes@daemon.li, blackend@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: docs/55923: [patch] articles/laptop: fix bad english + minor sgml issues X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 24 Aug 2003 13:46:55 -0000 Synopsis: [patch] articles/laptop: fix bad english + minor sgml issues State-Changed-From-To: open->closed State-Changed-By: blackend State-Changed-When: Sun Aug 24 06:43:06 PDT 2003 State-Changed-Why: I committed a slightly different version of your patch: I did not do the s/FreeBSD/&os; since it does not bring anything to the reader and does not worth the "repo size increasing"; I, of course, did this change on new committed/changed lines. Thanks! http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=55923 From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Aug 24 08:20:04 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@hub.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EF43216A50B for ; Sun, 24 Aug 2003 08:20:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F3F0843FBD for ; Sun, 24 Aug 2003 08:20:03 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (gnats@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h7OFK3Up008466 for ; Sun, 24 Aug 2003 08:20:03 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats@freefall.freebsd.org) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.12.9/8.12.9/Submit) id h7OFK37W008465; Sun, 24 Aug 2003 08:20:03 -0700 (PDT) Resent-Date: Sun, 24 Aug 2003 08:20:03 -0700 (PDT) Resent-Message-Id: <200308241520.h7OFK37W008465@freefall.freebsd.org> Resent-From: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.org (GNATS Filer) Resent-To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Resent-Reply-To: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.org, "Michael L. Squires" Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 70EAE16A4BF for ; Sun, 24 Aug 2003 08:18:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: from siralan.org (12-223-225-141.client.insightbb.com [12.223.225.141]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9079443FE0 for ; Sun, 24 Aug 2003 08:18:41 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mikes@siralan.org) Received: from siralan.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by siralan.org (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h7OFIei1015900 for ; Sun, 24 Aug 2003 10:18:40 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from mikes@siralan.org) Received: (from mikes@localhost) by siralan.org (8.12.9/8.12.9/Submit) id h7OFIebT015899; Sun, 24 Aug 2003 10:18:40 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <200308241518.h7OFIebT015899@siralan.org> Date: Sun, 24 Aug 2003 10:18:40 -0500 (EST) From: "Michael L. Squires" To: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.org X-Send-Pr-Version: 3.113 Subject: docs/55925: mt, mtio, tcopy man pages refers to *rsa*, not *sa* X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: "Michael L. Squires" List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 24 Aug 2003 15:20:05 -0000 >Number: 55925 >Category: docs >Synopsis: mt, mtio, tcopy man pages refers to *rsa*, not *sa* >Confidential: no >Severity: non-critical >Priority: low >Responsible: freebsd-doc >State: open >Quarter: >Keywords: >Date-Required: >Class: doc-bug >Submitter-Id: current-users >Arrival-Date: Sun Aug 24 08:20:02 PDT 2003 >Closed-Date: >Last-Modified: >Originator: Michael L. Squires >Release: FreeBSD 5.1-RELEASE i386 >Organization: siralan.org >Environment: System: FreeBSD mikes.siralan.org 5.1-RELEASE FreeBSD 5.1-RELEASE #1: Sat Aug 23 14:56:45 EST 2003 root@mikes.siralan.org:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/MIKES i386 FreeBSD 5.1-RELEASE, no updates >Description: man entries for mt, mtio, tcopy refer to obsolete /dev/rsa* device entries >How-To-Repeat: >Fix: >Release-Note: >Audit-Trail: >Unformatted: From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Aug 24 11:15:26 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@hub.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7A10016A4C0; Sun, 24 Aug 2003 11:15:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E6F3A43FE9; Sun, 24 Aug 2003 11:15:25 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from simon@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (simon@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h7OIFPUp023785; Sun, 24 Aug 2003 11:15:25 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from simon@freefall.freebsd.org) Received: (from simon@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.12.9/8.12.9/Submit) id h7OIFPa4023781; Sun, 24 Aug 2003 11:15:25 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sun, 24 Aug 2003 11:15:25 -0700 (PDT) From: "Simon L. Nielsen" Message-Id: <200308241815.h7OIFPa4023781@freefall.freebsd.org> To: simon@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org, simon@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: docs/55557: [PATCH] catch up sym(4) with hardware notes X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 24 Aug 2003 18:15:26 -0000 Synopsis: [PATCH] catch up sym(4) with hardware notes Responsible-Changed-From-To: freebsd-doc->simon Responsible-Changed-By: simon Responsible-Changed-When: Sun Aug 24 11:15:04 PDT 2003 Responsible-Changed-Why: I will look into this one. http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=55557 From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Aug 24 12:44:50 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3D2D716A4BF for ; Sun, 24 Aug 2003 12:44:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail.seekingfire.com (coyote.seekingfire.com [24.72.10.212]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 121D343FAF for ; Sun, 24 Aug 2003 12:44:49 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tillman@seekingfire.com) Received: from blues.seekingfire.prv (blues.seekingfire.prv [192.168.23.211]) by mail.seekingfire.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id F0CDB1AD for ; Sun, 24 Aug 2003 13:44:47 -0600 (CST) Received: (from tillman@localhost) by blues.seekingfire.prv (8.11.6/8.11.6) id h7OJilR30388 for FreeBSD-doc@freebsd.org; Sun, 24 Aug 2003 13:44:47 -0600 Date: Sun, 24 Aug 2003 13:44:47 -0600 From: Tillman Hodgson To: FreeBSD-doc@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20030824134447.D19066@seekingfire.com> References: <20030823092754.1e3dc84c.trhodes@FreeBSD.org> <20030824131144.A62111@sumuk.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5.1i In-Reply-To: <20030824131144.A62111@sumuk.de>; from martin@sumuk.de on Sun, Aug 24, 2003 at 01:11:44PM +0200 X-Urban-Legend: There is lots of hidden information in headers Subject: Re: [Review Request: Kerberos5] handbook security chapter review X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 24 Aug 2003 19:44:50 -0000 On Sun, Aug 24, 2003 at 01:11:44PM +0200, Martin Heinen wrote: > On Sat, Aug 23, 2003 at 09:27:54AM -0400, Tom Rhodes wrote: > > Greetings, > > > > Here I bring the kerberos5 handbook section to everyone for review. > > Great, thanks to both of you. You will find my > suggestions inline. There are a lot of contractions > (you're) inside which need to be expanded (I did > not mark them all). Thanks for reviewing it. I'll respond in-line to only the non markup comments (as Tom is /much/ better at that than I am ;-) ). > > + Kerberos is a network add-on > > + system/protocol that allows users to authenticate themselves > > + through the services of a secure server. Services such as remote > > + login, remote copy, secure inter-system file copying and other > > + high-risk tasks are made considerably safer and more > > + controllable. > > [1] (reference, see below) > > The introduction should also explain the common > Kerberos buzzwords (e.g. tickets, principals). Would reference to an outside reference (the MIT glossary, for example) work? I could also incorporate the glossary I wrote for ROSPA (pages 16 and 17 of http://www.rospa.ca/projects/kerberos/Heimdal_Kerberos.pdf). It's probably too wordy though. > > + > > + > > + The DNS domain (zone) will be example.prv. > > + > > + > > + > > + The Kerberos realm will be > > + EXAMPLE.PRV. > > + > > + > > All domain names in examples should be "example.org". We should move all the Kerberos realms to EXAMPLE.ORG as well then. > > + Please refrain from the use of these namespaces in the real > > + world. Not only will it not be optimal for your network and > > + DNS server, it will make interoperating with other > > + Kerberos realms more difficult. > > I would like to put this into a note and reformulate it a bit: > > > Please use real domain names when setting up > Kerberos. This avoids > DNS problems and assures > interoperation with other Kerberos > realms. > I'd add: "... when setting up Kerberos even if you intend to run it internally." (As an aside, ROSPA (a user group/professional association) runs a VPN tunnel network. It connects multiple internal networks which means we had to deal with realm name collisions issues). > > + does not provide authorization functions (what those users are > > + able to perform) or auditing fuctions (what those users did). > > Maybe "what users are allowed to do" sounds better? Probably more accurate too, as authorization does actually provide the capability of performing actions (services do that). > > + In order to reach the widest audience, these instructions assume > > + the use of the Heimdal distribution included in &os;. > This section tells nothing new and should be removed. I think it's important to note that we're using the Heimdal in the base OS. MIT is more common by far in North America and the base Heimdal doesn't include all the applications and daemons that the full Heimdal package does. I would install a Kerberos system differently if I wasn't using the base Heimdal, for example. > > + Kerberos5_server_enable="YES" > > +kadmind5_server_enable="YES" > > +Kerberos_stash="YES" > > Don't know exactly: > > ... kerberos5_server_enable="YES" > > CURRENT does not have "Kerberos_stash" in /etc/defaults/rc.conf. That's true. I think it's a leftover in my conversion of the document from -STABLE to -CURRENT. It's not needed in -CURRENT. > > + First, we need a copy of the Kerberos > > + configuration file, /etc/krb5.conf. To do > > + so, simply copy it over to the client computer from the > > + KDC in a secure fashion (using the network, > > + such as scp, or physically via a > > + floppy). > > Does /etc/krb5.conf really need to be transfered in a > secure fashion? After all, it contains only information > which is already public. No, it doesn't. My intent was to ensure that users new to Kerberos get in the habit of transferring everything securely so that they don't have to figure out when it's safe not to. Drawing that line at "anything key related" and dropping the secure instructions for krb5.conf might work as well. > > + Kerberos enabled daemons and a > > + workstation -- the server must have a keytab file. This file > > — > > "keytab" and all further instances should probably be > marked up with keytab. Definitely for isntances of /etc/krb5.keytab. I was using "keytab" in it's generic sense here ... does that still qualify for treatment? I think there is a need for a generic term. For example, on the ROSPA web server there is also a keytab in /usr/local/etc/apache/ (for use with mod_auth_kerb). Several other daemons also liek their own keytab and special keytabs are commonly used for Kerberos authenticated cron jobs. > > + contains the servers host key, which allows it and the > > + KDC to verify each others identity. It > > + must be transmitted to the server in a secure fashion, as the > > + security of the server can be broken if the key is made public. > > + This explicitly means that transferring it via a clear text > > + channel, such as FTP, is a very bad idea. > > Instead of stating what not to do, it is better to > explain how to transfer the file in a secure fashion > (scp, floppy). Can we reuse the wording from the krb5.conf section? > > + telnetd man page for more details. > ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ > &man.telnetd.8; Oh, that's how that's done. Neat. > > + Users within a realm typically have their > > + Kerberos principal (such as > > + tillman@EXAMPLE.PRV) mapped to a local > > + user account (such as a local account named > > + tillman). This well as the user account > > + usually does not have to be specified when using a client > > + application such as telnet. > > How about: > > Client applications such as telnet > usually do not require a user name or a principal. They still require a user /account/, though. I'd like to make that unambiguous. Is there better wording to stress that? > > + Occasionally, however, you want to grant access to a local > > + user account to someone who does not have a matching > > + Kerberos principal. For example, > > + tillman@EXAMPLE.PRV may need access to the > > + local user account webdevelopers. Other > > + principals may also need access to that local account. > > + > > + The .k5login and > > + .k5users files, placed in a users home > > + directory, can be used similar to a powerful combination of > > + .hosts and sudo, solving > > I don't know if everyone is familar with sudo. The > file .k5login is similar to .rhosts, which is well known. .hosts above should definitely say .rhosts. Removing the reference to sudo would mean rewording the "combination" aspect and replacing it with something else like: The .k5login and .k5users files, placed in a users home directory, can be used in a similar fashion to .rhosts. They can also provide fine-grained authorization beyond what .rhosts provides. For example, if a ... > > + > > + Is your time in sync? Are you sure? If the time is not in > > + sync (typically within five minutes) authentication often > > + fails. > > It will fail: > ... minutes) authentication fails. Is it worth adding that the number of minutes of "drift" that is allowed can be controlled by the krb5.conf "clockskew" setting? > Time synchronization and ticket lifetimes were discussed > in "Troubleshooting". How about one section "Tips and > Troubleshooting"? I'm not positive that those sections overlap nicely. For example, if authentication fails discovering that clockskew can cause that is troubleshooting. Recommending that NTP be used to prevent that isn't. It coudl be made to work if all the tips were worded such that expressed the negative ("long ticket lifetimes don't work", etc), but that might be awkward. > > + In a multi-user environment, > > + Kerberos is less secure. This is > > + because it stores the tickets in the global > > What is "global" about /tmp? It's opposed to /home/user/tmp, which is a great way to solve the problem of easily read tickets when stored on disk. > > + The KDC is a single point of security failure > > The KDC is a single point of failure > > It's not only about security: If you loose the master database, > everything is lost! True enough. The whole question of securing your backups isn't even touched on in this document :-) Thanks for your comments! -T -- "Everything you are against weakens you. Everything you are for empowers you." - Wayne Dyer (American Psychotherapist & Author) From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Aug 24 14:12:46 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 913A216A4C3 for ; Sun, 24 Aug 2003 14:12:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: from hood.oook.cz (hood.oook.cz [212.27.205.50]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1858143FEC for ; Sun, 24 Aug 2003 14:12:35 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from pav@oook.cz) Received: from hood.oook.cz (localhost.oook.cz [127.0.0.1]) by hood.oook.cz (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h7OLCMBk044079 for ; Sun, 24 Aug 2003 23:12:23 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from pav@oook.cz) Received: (from pav@localhost) by hood.oook.cz (8.12.9/8.12.9/Submit) id h7OLCMnh044078 for doc@freebsd.org; Sun, 24 Aug 2003 23:12:22 +0200 (CEST) X-Authentication-Warning: hood.oook.cz: pav set sender to pav@oook.cz using -f From: Pav Lucistnik To: doc@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <1061759541.75494.48.camel@hood.oook.cz> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Ximian Evolution 1.4.4 Date: Sun, 24 Aug 2003 23:12:21 +0200 Subject: website related questions X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 24 Aug 2003 21:12:46 -0000 Hi, I have few FreeBSD website related questions. 1) I know there is www mailing list, but I also see a lot of www related talk here at doc mailing list. Where should I post questions, suggestions and patches about website infrastructure (markup, Makefiles etc)? 2) What about tidy errors/warning, both on web and in doc? Is there any concern on fixing them? Those Error (ignored) messages are disturbing :) I'm willing to fix them. 3) Website validity (according to W3 Validator). Even our homepage now fails to validate. Should I submit fixes, as PRs maybe? Thanks for you patience, -- Pav Lucistnik What do we know about love? Love is like a pear. Pear is sweet and have a specific shape. Try to exactly define the shape of a pear. -- Marigold: 50 Years Of Poetry From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Aug 24 14:25:33 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BDBE816A4BF for ; Sun, 24 Aug 2003 14:25:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: from abigail.blackend.org (blackend.org [212.11.35.229]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2BEFF43FBD for ; Sun, 24 Aug 2003 14:25:32 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from marc@blackend.org) Received: from nosferatu.blackend.org (nosferatu.blackend.org [192.168.10.205]) by abigail.blackend.org (8.12.9/8.12.3) with ESMTP id h7OLPT35019036; Sun, 24 Aug 2003 23:25:29 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from marc@abigail.blackend.org) Received: from nosferatu.blackend.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) h7OLOjD1002373; Sun, 24 Aug 2003 23:24:45 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from marc@nosferatu.blackend.org) Received: (from marc@localhost) by nosferatu.blackend.org (8.12.9/8.12.9/Submit) id h7OLOifj002372; Sun, 24 Aug 2003 23:24:44 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from marc) Date: Sun, 24 Aug 2003 23:24:44 +0200 From: Marc Fonvieille To: Pav Lucistnik Message-ID: <20030824212444.GB579@nosferatu.blackend.org> References: <1061759541.75494.48.camel@hood.oook.cz> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <1061759541.75494.48.camel@hood.oook.cz> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4i X-Useless-Header: blackend.org X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 5.1-CURRENT cc: doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: website related questions X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 24 Aug 2003 21:25:33 -0000 On Sun, Aug 24, 2003 at 11:12:21PM +0200, Pav Lucistnik wrote: > Hi, I have few FreeBSD website related questions. > > 1) I know there is www mailing list, but I also see a lot of www related > talk here at doc mailing list. Where should I post questions, > suggestions and patches about website infrastructure (markup, Makefiles > etc)? > freebsd-www mailing list is the right place at first. > 2) What about tidy errors/warning, both on web and in doc? Is there any > concern on fixing them? Those Error (ignored) messages are disturbing :) > I'm willing to fix them. > > 3) Website validity (according to W3 Validator). Even our homepage now > fails to validate. Should I submit fixes, as PRs maybe? > Hmm I just did http://validator.w3.org/check?uri=www.freebsd.org and the result was Ok. What you mean by "our homepage"? Marc From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Aug 24 14:26:51 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5E76116A4BF for ; Sun, 24 Aug 2003 14:26:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: from arthur.nitro.dk (port324.ds1-khk.adsl.cybercity.dk [212.242.113.79]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BC97C43FF3 for ; Sun, 24 Aug 2003 14:26:50 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from simon@arthur.nitro.dk) Received: by arthur.nitro.dk (Postfix, from userid 1000) id CD7E910BF89; Sun, 24 Aug 2003 23:26:49 +0200 (CEST) Date: Sun, 24 Aug 2003 23:26:49 +0200 From: "Simon L. Nielsen" To: Pav Lucistnik Message-ID: <20030824212648.GB7977@FreeBSD.org> References: <1061759541.75494.48.camel@hood.oook.cz> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="p4qYPpj5QlsIQJ0K" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <1061759541.75494.48.camel@hood.oook.cz> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.4i cc: doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: website related questions X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 24 Aug 2003 21:26:51 -0000 --p4qYPpj5QlsIQJ0K Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 2003.08.24 23:12:21 +0200, Pav Lucistnik wrote: > Hi, I have few FreeBSD website related questions. >=20 > 1) I know there is www mailing list, but I also see a lot of www related > talk here at doc mailing list. Where should I post questions, > suggestions and patches about website infrastructure (markup, Makefiles > etc)? It's not really that important... I expect that most people doing www/ work is on both lists. Anyway it is prefered to send patches as PR's so they don't get lost. > 2) What about tidy errors/warning, both on web and in doc? Is there any > concern on fixing them? Those Error (ignored) messages are disturbing :) > I'm willing to fix them. I don't particular think it's a goal to have tidy run without error/warnings in itself, but I do think it would be great if the sgml files under www/ are as correct as possible, which should in turn also make tidy quite. Hope the difference makes some sence. > 3) Website validity (according to W3 Validator). Even our homepage now > fails to validate. Should I submit fixes, as PRs maybe? I think the entire website (if possible) should be valid HTML. I also think this is more important than '2)', since people actually "see" the resulting website. --=20 Simon L. Nielsen FreeBSD Documentation Team --p4qYPpj5QlsIQJ0K Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.3 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQE/SS2Yh9pcDSc1mlERAumhAKC+DVN0I6LgQmKCUSD4+P5lngwkpgCfakD8 pHqJeVe5GtoD3YhuStD0YHo= =FKaZ -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --p4qYPpj5QlsIQJ0K-- From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Aug 24 14:31:05 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7474516A4BF; Sun, 24 Aug 2003 14:31:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: from hood.oook.cz (hood.oook.cz [212.27.205.50]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B292D43FF5; Sun, 24 Aug 2003 14:31:03 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from pav@oook.cz) Received: from hood.oook.cz (localhost.oook.cz [127.0.0.1]) by hood.oook.cz (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h7OLV2Bk044520; Sun, 24 Aug 2003 23:31:02 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from pav@oook.cz) Received: (from pav@localhost) by hood.oook.cz (8.12.9/8.12.9/Submit) id h7OLV10q044519; Sun, 24 Aug 2003 23:31:01 +0200 (CEST) X-Authentication-Warning: hood.oook.cz: pav set sender to pav@oook.cz using -f From: Pav Lucistnik To: Marc Fonvieille In-Reply-To: <20030824212444.GB579@nosferatu.blackend.org> References: <1061759541.75494.48.camel@hood.oook.cz> <20030824212444.GB579@nosferatu.blackend.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-2 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <1061760661.75494.51.camel@hood.oook.cz> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Ximian Evolution 1.4.4 Date: Sun, 24 Aug 2003 23:31:01 +0200 cc: doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: website related questions X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 24 Aug 2003 21:31:05 -0000 V ne, 24. 08. 2003 v 23:24, Marc Fonvieille p=ED=B9e: > > 3) Website validity (according to W3 Validator). Even our homepage now > > fails to validate. Should I submit fixes, as PRs maybe? > Hmm I just did http://validator.w3.org/check?uri=3Dwww.freebsd.org > and the result was Ok. What you mean by "our homepage"? Oh sorry, my bad. I mean news page (fixing it will require tweak to homepag= e too). Try validating http://www.freebsd.org/news/newsflash.html --=20 Pav Lucistnik What do we know about love? Love is like a pear. Pear is sweet and have a specific shape. Try to exactly define the shape of a pear. -- Marigold: 50 Years Of Poetry From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Aug 24 14:42:28 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 03A3516A4BF; Sun, 24 Aug 2003 14:42:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: from abigail.blackend.org (blackend.org [212.11.35.229]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 900E743FDF; Sun, 24 Aug 2003 14:42:26 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from marc@blackend.org) Received: from nosferatu.blackend.org (nosferatu.blackend.org [192.168.10.205]) by abigail.blackend.org (8.12.9/8.12.3) with ESMTP id h7OLgP35019270; Sun, 24 Aug 2003 23:42:25 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from marc@abigail.blackend.org) Received: from nosferatu.blackend.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) h7OLfeD1002426; Sun, 24 Aug 2003 23:41:40 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from marc@nosferatu.blackend.org) Received: (from marc@localhost) by nosferatu.blackend.org (8.12.9/8.12.9/Submit) id h7OLfeHF002425; Sun, 24 Aug 2003 23:41:40 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from marc) Date: Sun, 24 Aug 2003 23:41:40 +0200 From: Marc Fonvieille To: "Simon L. Nielsen" Message-ID: <20030824214140.GC579@nosferatu.blackend.org> References: <1061759541.75494.48.camel@hood.oook.cz> <20030824212648.GB7977@FreeBSD.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="fdj2RfSjLxBAspz7" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20030824212648.GB7977@FreeBSD.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4i X-Useless-Header: blackend.org X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 5.1-CURRENT cc: doc@FreeBSD.org cc: Pav Lucistnik Subject: Re: website related questions X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 24 Aug 2003 21:42:28 -0000 --fdj2RfSjLxBAspz7 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sun, Aug 24, 2003 at 11:26:49PM +0200, Simon L. Nielsen wrote: > On 2003.08.24 23:12:21 +0200, Pav Lucistnik wrote: > > Hi, I have few FreeBSD website related questions. > >=20 > > 1) I know there is www mailing list, but I also see a lot of www related > > talk here at doc mailing list. Where should I post questions, > > suggestions and patches about website infrastructure (markup, Makefiles > > etc)? >=20 > It's not really that important... I expect that most people doing www/ > work is on both lists. Anyway it is prefered to send patches as PR's so > they don't get lost. > It is actually important, freebsd-www mailing list was created for this purpose and it's the same thing for the www PR category. So, please folks use that list :) Marc --fdj2RfSjLxBAspz7 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQE/STET81T1MWxkgcoRAr49AJ9E1dbLSFXgv9InAtVou3Y7KZR9FgCgjFHU W+ngLaQ1GirXxuwuTcm1Wbo= =YnoB -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --fdj2RfSjLxBAspz7-- From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Aug 24 14:46:13 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5803916A4BF; Sun, 24 Aug 2003 14:46:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: from bunrab.catwhisker.org (adsl-63-193-123-122.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net [63.193.123.122]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A42DC43FE1; Sun, 24 Aug 2003 14:46:10 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from david@catwhisker.org) Received: from bunrab.catwhisker.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by bunrab.catwhisker.org (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h7OLkAnj083277; Sun, 24 Aug 2003 14:46:10 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from david@bunrab.catwhisker.org) Received: (from david@localhost) by bunrab.catwhisker.org (8.12.9/8.12.9/Submit) id h7OLkAkZ083276; Sun, 24 Aug 2003 14:46:10 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sun, 24 Aug 2003 14:46:10 -0700 (PDT) From: David Wolfskill Message-Id: <200308242146.h7OLkAkZ083276@bunrab.catwhisker.org> To: lofi@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <200308240022.25079.michaelnottebrock@gmx.net> cc: doc@freebsd.org cc: simon@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Can text/x-diff be added to the list of allowed attachments? X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 24 Aug 2003 21:46:13 -0000 >From: Michael Nottebrock >Reply-To: lofi@freebsd.org >To: postmaster@freebsd.org >Subject: Can text/x-diff be added to the list of allowed attachments? >Date: Sun, 24 Aug 2003 00:22:24 +0200 >text/x-diff is the MIME-type KDE applications assign for files produced by= >=20 >diff(1), including kmail (KDE's mail user agent application). Right now, I= >=20 >(or any other kmail user) cannot send patches to freebsd mailing lists=20 >because of this. OK; that should work now. You might want to test it (by posting to freebsd-test@freebsd.org) before going hog-wild, but at this point, failure to accept text/x-diff (for any list that accepts text/x-pach, anyway -- all of them but mailman@) is someting I consider a "bug". Peace, david (current hat: postmaster@freebsd.org) -- David H. Wolfskill david@catwhisker.org If you want true virus-protection for your PC, install a non-Microsoft OS on it. Plausible candidates include FreeBSD, Linux, NetBSD, OpenBSD, and Solaris (in alphabetical order). From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Aug 24 14:50:06 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B6EDA16A4BF; Sun, 24 Aug 2003 14:50:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: from arthur.nitro.dk (port324.ds1-khk.adsl.cybercity.dk [212.242.113.79]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D902543F75; Sun, 24 Aug 2003 14:50:05 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from simon@arthur.nitro.dk) Received: by arthur.nitro.dk (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 4BEDD10BF89; Sun, 24 Aug 2003 23:50:04 +0200 (CEST) Date: Sun, 24 Aug 2003 23:50:04 +0200 From: "Simon L. Nielsen" To: Marc Fonvieille Message-ID: <20030824215003.GC7977@FreeBSD.org> References: <1061759541.75494.48.camel@hood.oook.cz> <20030824212648.GB7977@FreeBSD.org> <20030824214140.GC579@nosferatu.blackend.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="B4IIlcmfBL/1gGOG" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20030824214140.GC579@nosferatu.blackend.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.4i cc: doc@FreeBSD.org cc: Pav Lucistnik Subject: Re: website related questions X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 24 Aug 2003 21:50:06 -0000 --B4IIlcmfBL/1gGOG Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 2003.08.24 23:41:40 +0200, Marc Fonvieille wrote: > On Sun, Aug 24, 2003 at 11:26:49PM +0200, Simon L. Nielsen wrote: > > On 2003.08.24 23:12:21 +0200, Pav Lucistnik wrote: > > > Hi, I have few FreeBSD website related questions. > > >=20 > > > 1) I know there is www mailing list, but I also see a lot of www rela= ted > > > talk here at doc mailing list. Where should I post questions, > > > suggestions and patches about website infrastructure (markup, Makefil= es > > > etc)? > >=20 > > It's not really that important... I expect that most people doing www/ > > work is on both lists. Anyway it is prefered to send patches as PR's so > > they don't get lost. > > >=20 > It is actually important, freebsd-www mailing list was created for this > purpose and it's the same thing for the www PR category. So, please > folks use that list :) Ah OK, I have seen talk about mergeing the two lists, which was why I thought it didn't really matter. In any case; I read both lists, so using -www is fine by me :-). --=20 Simon L. Nielsen FreeBSD Documentation Team --B4IIlcmfBL/1gGOG Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.3 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQE/STMLh9pcDSc1mlERAkQMAKCKtz/XnOO0YzEkKKF4hiTlMYbGdgCfTreo XPsFEOwm4FvKAyRdzP4RxMQ= =RB85 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --B4IIlcmfBL/1gGOG-- From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Aug 24 14:54:12 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9265C16A4BF; Sun, 24 Aug 2003 14:54:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: from smtp.eos.ocn.ne.jp (eos.ocn.ne.jp [211.6.83.117]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B67DD43FBF; Sun, 24 Aug 2003 14:54:11 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from hrs@eos.ocn.ne.jp) Received: from mail.d.allbsd.org (p59075-adsao12honb4-acca.tokyo.ocn.ne.jp [220.96.141.75]) by smtp.eos.ocn.ne.jp (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8D47AD4C; Mon, 25 Aug 2003 06:54:10 +0900 (JST) Received: from localhost (alph.allbsd.org [192.168.0.10]) h7OLp5IF019340; Mon, 25 Aug 2003 06:51:05 +0900 (JST) (envelope-from hrs@eos.ocn.ne.jp) Date: Mon, 25 Aug 2003 06:50:50 +0900 (JST) Message-Id: <20030825.065050.35456478.hrs@eos.ocn.ne.jp> To: pav@oook.cz From: Hiroki Sato In-Reply-To: <1061760661.75494.51.camel@hood.oook.cz> References: <1061759541.75494.48.camel@hood.oook.cz> <20030824212444.GB579@nosferatu.blackend.org> <1061760661.75494.51.camel@hood.oook.cz> X-PGPkey-fingerprint: BDB3 443F A5DD B3D0 A530 FFD7 4F2C D3D8 2793 CF2D X-Mailer: Mew version 3.3 on Emacs 20.7 / Mule 4.0 (HANANOEN) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: website related questions X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 24 Aug 2003 21:54:12 -0000 Pav Lucistnik wrote in <1061760661.75494.51.camel@hood.oook.cz>: pav> Oh sorry, my bad. I mean news page (fixing it will require tweak to homepage too). pav> Try validating http://www.freebsd.org/news/newsflash.html Hmm, this problem is due to generate-*-anchor in www/en/news/includes.xsl and can be fixed by changing the xsl:templetes and re-building www/. -- | Hiroki SATO / From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Aug 24 14:59:42 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 97F7016A4BF; Sun, 24 Aug 2003 14:59:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: from arthur.nitro.dk (port324.ds1-khk.adsl.cybercity.dk [212.242.113.79]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DCA5143FBD; Sun, 24 Aug 2003 14:59:41 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from simon@arthur.nitro.dk) Received: by arthur.nitro.dk (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 2A70E10BF89; Sun, 24 Aug 2003 23:59:41 +0200 (CEST) Date: Sun, 24 Aug 2003 23:59:41 +0200 From: "Simon L. Nielsen" To: David Wolfskill Message-ID: <20030824215940.GD7977@FreeBSD.org> References: <200308240022.25079.michaelnottebrock@gmx.net> <200308242146.h7OLkAkZ083276@bunrab.catwhisker.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="AbQceqfdZEv+FvjW" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <200308242146.h7OLkAkZ083276@bunrab.catwhisker.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.4i cc: doc@freebsd.org cc: lofi@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Can text/x-diff be added to the list of allowed attachments? X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 24 Aug 2003 21:59:42 -0000 --AbQceqfdZEv+FvjW Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 2003.08.24 14:46:10 -0700, David Wolfskill wrote: > >From: Michael Nottebrock > >Reply-To: lofi@freebsd.org > >To: postmaster@freebsd.org > >Subject: Can text/x-diff be added to the list of allowed attachments? > >Date: Sun, 24 Aug 2003 00:22:24 +0200 >=20 > >text/x-diff is the MIME-type KDE applications assign for files produced = by=3D > >=3D20 > >diff(1), including kmail (KDE's mail user agent application). Right now,= I=3D > >=3D20 > >(or any other kmail user) cannot send patches to freebsd mailing lists= =3D20 > >because of this. >=20 > OK; that should work now. >=20 > You might want to test it (by posting to freebsd-test@freebsd.org) > before going hog-wild, but at this point, failure to accept text/x-diff > (for any list that accepts text/x-pach, anyway -- all of them but > mailman@) is someting I consider a "bug". OK, I just added it to the Handbook. --=20 Simon L. Nielsen FreeBSD Documentation Team --AbQceqfdZEv+FvjW Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.3 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQE/STVMh9pcDSc1mlERAkRQAJ9SXAFbM7w4yhSagKCa6LLN5qqMlQCgvTMS UDn48sKHbMn3ZfFtH0BhAvw= =GEzC -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --AbQceqfdZEv+FvjW-- From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Aug 24 15:04:58 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B858816A4BF for ; Sun, 24 Aug 2003 15:04:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: from shrike.submonkey.net (pc3-cdif2-5-cust222.cdif.cable.ntl.com [81.101.152.222]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C7D9643FDD for ; Sun, 24 Aug 2003 15:04:57 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from setantae@submonkey.net) Received: from setantae by shrike.submonkey.net with local (Exim 4.20) id 19r2ym-000BG3-1K; Sun, 24 Aug 2003 23:04:56 +0100 Date: Sun, 24 Aug 2003 23:04:55 +0100 From: Ceri Davies To: Pav Lucistnik Message-ID: <20030824220455.GA2947@submonkey.net> Mail-Followup-To: Ceri Davies , Pav Lucistnik , doc@freebsd.org References: <1061759541.75494.48.camel@hood.oook.cz> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="RnlQjJ0d97Da+TV1" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <1061759541.75494.48.camel@hood.oook.cz> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.4i Sender: Ceri Davies cc: doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: website related questions X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 24 Aug 2003 22:04:58 -0000 --RnlQjJ0d97Da+TV1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sun, Aug 24, 2003 at 11:12:21PM +0200, Pav Lucistnik wrote: > 1) I know there is www mailing list, but I also see a lot of www related > talk here at doc mailing list. Where should I post questions, > suggestions and patches about website infrastructure (markup, Makefiles > etc)? Website stuff belongs on www@, but I usually submit stuff to both, as there seems to be a very small number of doc committers active on www@ (which shouldn't be the case). > 2) What about tidy errors/warning, both on web and in doc? Is there any > concern on fixing them? Those Error (ignored) messages are disturbing :) > I'm willing to fix them. I have occassionally wondered about those, but have always assumed that these were due to validation errors (for which, see #3). If they are for other reasons, they are probably worth fixing. > 3) Website validity (according to W3 Validator). Even our homepage now > fails to validate. Should I submit fixes, as PRs maybe? I worked on this some time ago, but the work was greeted with some indifference. See the posting at http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=3Dfreebsd-doc&m=3D104955591810574&w=3D2 for some vague details, although I am sure I have posted other patches since then. Let us know what form your patches would take, and we'll take it from there. Personally, I think that having webpages that validate should be an important goal, and also having pages that are Bobby compliant should be a long term goal (http://bobby.watchfire.com/bobby/html/en/index.jsp). This is something that I have toyed with in a local tree, although the patches a= re far from anything other than concept. Ceri --=20 User: DO YOU ACCEPT JESUS CHRIST AS YOUR PERSONAL LORD AND SAVIOR? Iniaes: Sure, I can accept all forms of payment. -- www.chatterboxchallenge.com --RnlQjJ0d97Da+TV1 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.3 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQE/STaGocfcwTS3JF8RAk1QAJ9CTfKvYOSrjraLwUhrtimSIrWORACfTvu0 5QfG1wBGj7HVC4Ns6VFNDp0= =Nt1y -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --RnlQjJ0d97Da+TV1-- From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Aug 24 15:37:41 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 05F6316A4BF; Sun, 24 Aug 2003 15:37:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: from hood.oook.cz (hood.oook.cz [212.27.205.50]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 87F0143FE5; Sun, 24 Aug 2003 15:37:39 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from pav@oook.cz) Received: from hood.oook.cz (localhost.oook.cz [127.0.0.1]) by hood.oook.cz (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h7OMbcBk060093; Mon, 25 Aug 2003 00:37:38 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from pav@oook.cz) Received: (from pav@localhost) by hood.oook.cz (8.12.9/8.12.9/Submit) id h7OMbbrO060092; Mon, 25 Aug 2003 00:37:37 +0200 (CEST) X-Authentication-Warning: hood.oook.cz: pav set sender to pav@oook.cz using -f From: Pav Lucistnik To: Ceri Davies In-Reply-To: <20030824220455.GA2947@submonkey.net> References: <1061759541.75494.48.camel@hood.oook.cz> <20030824220455.GA2947@submonkey.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-2 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <1061764657.75494.58.camel@hood.oook.cz> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Ximian Evolution 1.4.4 Date: Mon, 25 Aug 2003 00:37:37 +0200 cc: doc@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: website related questions X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 24 Aug 2003 22:37:41 -0000 V po, 25. 08. 2003 v 00:04, Ceri Davies p=ED=B9e: > > 3) Website validity (according to W3 Validator). Even our homepage now > > fails to validate. Should I submit fixes, as PRs maybe? >=20 > I worked on this some time ago, but the work was greeted with some > indifference. See the posting at > http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=3Dfreebsd-doc&m=3D104955591810574&w=3D2 f= or > some vague details, although I am sure I have posted other patches > since then. I don't see any clearly negative replies. We definately should have the website validate. BTW in the old thread you linked above, you was wondering about xmlns attribute propagating to output pages. This is valid behaviour by specs and it can be cancelled by adding=20 exclude-result-prefixes=3D"cvs" to element. It's happening on my local copy of news/newsflash.xsl but obviously it's not happening on www.freebsd.org, I don't know why. Should I send it as a PR? > Let us know what form your patches would take, and we'll take it from > there. I'm planning on producing a lot of small patches, as I go and notice things. You can see first fruit as PR 55938. I feel uncomfortable about filing many small PRs in GNATS, if some committer would agree on taking care of such patches, I'd submit them directly to him. --=20 Pav Lucistnik What do we know about love? Love is like a pear. Pear is sweet and have a specific shape. Try to exactly define the shape of a pear. -- Marigold: 50 Years Of Poetry From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Aug 24 16:20:15 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@hub.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EAD8C16A4BF for ; Sun, 24 Aug 2003 16:20:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AD06C43FDF for ; Sun, 24 Aug 2003 16:20:13 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (gnats@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h7ONKDUp050301 for ; Sun, 24 Aug 2003 16:20:13 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats@freefall.freebsd.org) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.12.9/8.12.9/Submit) id h7ONKDmw050300; Sun, 24 Aug 2003 16:20:13 -0700 (PDT) Resent-Date: Sun, 24 Aug 2003 16:20:13 -0700 (PDT) Resent-Message-Id: <200308242320.h7ONKDmw050300@freefall.freebsd.org> Resent-From: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.org (GNATS Filer) Resent-To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Resent-Reply-To: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.org, Josef El-Rayes Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A3A9C16A4BF for ; Sun, 24 Aug 2003 16:16:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail.ac-net.at (secure.ac-net.at [212.24.125.8]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4199D43FCB for ; Sun, 24 Aug 2003 16:16:57 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from shammer@daemon.li) Received: from localhost (server.ac-net.at [127.0.0.1]) by mail.ac-net.at (AC-net Mailserver v1.3a) with ESMTP id 771BA3F77 for ; Mon, 25 Aug 2003 01:16:55 +0200 (CEST) Received: from daemon.li (dsl-240-208.utaonline.at [212.152.240.208]) by mail.ac-net.at (AC-net Mailserver v1.3a) with SMTP id 8BEA53F5D for ; Sun, 24 Aug 2003 23:16:52 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 1020 invoked from network); 24 Aug 2003 23:19:13 -0000 Received: from localhost (HELO daemon.li) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 24 Aug 2003 23:19:13 -0000 Received: (from shammer@localhost) by daemon.li (8.12.6/8.12.7/Submit) id h7ONJ9uQ001018; Mon, 25 Aug 2003 01:19:10 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from shammer) Message-Id: <200308242319.h7ONJ9uQ001018@daemon.li> Date: Mon, 25 Aug 2003 01:19:10 +0200 (CEST) From: Josef El-Rayes To: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.org X-Send-Pr-Version: 3.113 Subject: docs/55939: [patch] article/java-tomcat: fix broken url + typo X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Josef El-Rayes List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 24 Aug 2003 23:20:15 -0000 >Number: 55939 >Category: docs >Synopsis: [patch] article/java-tomcat: fix broken url + typo >Confidential: no >Severity: non-critical >Priority: low >Responsible: freebsd-doc >State: open >Quarter: >Keywords: >Date-Required: >Class: update >Submitter-Id: current-users >Arrival-Date: Sun Aug 24 16:20:13 PDT 2003 >Closed-Date: >Last-Modified: >Originator: Josef El-Rayes >Release: FreeBSD 4.8-STABLE i386 >Organization: >Environment: System: FreeBSD daemon.li 4.8-STABLE FreeBSD 4.8-STABLE #8: Tue Jul 22 18:16:23 CEST 2003 root@daemon.li:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/CUSTOM i386 >Description: doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/articles/java-tomcat/article.sgml: 1) fix broken url, which does not exist anymore 2) fix typo >How-To-Repeat: >Fix: --- article.sgml.diff begins here --- --- article.sgml.orig Mon Aug 25 01:08:04 2003 +++ article.sgml Mon Aug 25 01:14:26 2003 @@ -142,7 +142,7 @@ url="../../books/handbook/cvsup.html"> for more information. You can also download the ports you need manually from to + url="&ftpurl;/pub/FreeBSD/ports/"> to get you going. @@ -229,7 +229,7 @@ Legal page, where you must accept the license agreement; scroll down (reading the license) and click on the Continue button. Next page, is the - Receipt page. This is where you will save you + Receipt page. This is where you will save your order number. You will be able to choose the location that is nearest to you. Click on Java 2 SDK, Standard Edition, version 1.3.1. Save the --- article.sgml.diff ends here --- >Release-Note: >Audit-Trail: >Unformatted: From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Aug 24 17:18:00 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B925D16A4C0 for ; Sun, 24 Aug 2003 17:18:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: from Kain.sumuk.de (Kain.sumuk.de [213.221.86.114]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 967E543FCB for ; Sun, 24 Aug 2003 17:17:58 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from vincent@sumuk.de) Received: from Moses.earth.sol (Moses.earth.sol [192.168.1.1]) by Kain.sumuk.de (8.12.9/8.12.8) with ESMTP id h7P0HuZ6039995; Mon, 25 Aug 2003 02:17:56 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from vincent@sumuk.de) Received: from Moses.earth.sol (localhost.earth.sol [127.0.0.1]) by Moses.earth.sol (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id h7P0HtPg066462; Mon, 25 Aug 2003 02:17:55 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from vincent@Moses.earth.sol) Received: (from vincent@localhost) by Moses.earth.sol (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id h7P0HseQ066461; Mon, 25 Aug 2003 02:17:54 +0200 (CEST) Date: Mon, 25 Aug 2003 02:17:53 +0200 From: Martin Heinen To: Tillman Hodgson Message-ID: <20030825021752.A65383@sumuk.de> References: <20030823092754.1e3dc84c.trhodes@FreeBSD.org> <20030824131144.A62111@sumuk.de> <20030824134447.D19066@seekingfire.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <20030824134447.D19066@seekingfire.com>; from tillman@seekingfire.com on Sun, Aug 24, 2003 at 01:44:47PM -0600 cc: FreeBSD-doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: [Review Request: Kerberos5] handbook security chapter review X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: FreeBSD-doc@freebsd.org List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 25 Aug 2003 00:18:00 -0000 On Sun, Aug 24, 2003 at 01:44:47PM -0600, Tillman Hodgson wrote: > On Sun, Aug 24, 2003 at 01:11:44PM +0200, Martin Heinen wrote: > > On Sat, Aug 23, 2003 at 09:27:54AM -0400, Tom Rhodes wrote: > > The introduction should also explain the common > > Kerberos buzzwords (e.g. tickets, principals). > > Would reference to an outside reference (the MIT glossary, for example) > work? The text should at least explain the terms which are used later on. That a principal could be something other than a normal user (a service) is not obvious. Simon, in his review, noticed the "sudden" appearance of the term TGT. If the reader knows what a ticket granting ticket is, he probably already knows how to set up Kerberos. Forcing the reader into a search engine is not a good idea. For further details we could reference the reader to the original documentation. > I could also incorporate the glossary I wrote for ROSPA (pages 16 and 17 > of http://www.rospa.ca/projects/kerberos/Heimdal_Kerberos.pdf). It's > probably too wordy though. Thinking of references, we might want to add Brian Tung's Kerberos book to the bibliography: http://www.awprofessional.com/catalog/product.asp?product_id={B2EC5D6E-D38A-4C96-BEB1-9EECCAB7D36D} > > > > Please use real domain names when setting up > > Kerberos. This avoids > > DNS problems and assures > > interoperation with other Kerberos > > realms. > > > > I'd add: > > "... when setting up Kerberos even if you > intend to run it internally." Good point. > > > + In order to reach the widest audience, these instructions assume > > > + the use of the Heimdal distribution included in &os;. > > > > > This section tells nothing new and should be removed. > > I think it's important to note that we're using the Heimdal in the base > OS. MIT is more common by far in North America and the base Heimdal > doesn't include all the applications and daemons that the full Heimdal > package does. > > I would install a Kerberos system differently if I wasn't using the base > Heimdal, for example. I only meant to remove the section "KerberosIV and Kerberos 5". That Kerberos IV has been dropped was already mentioned in the introduction. If it is important to mention eBones and Heimdal we could do that in the first paragraphs too. > > > + Kerberos5_server_enable="YES" > > > +kadmind5_server_enable="YES" > > > +Kerberos_stash="YES" > > > > Don't know exactly: > > > > ... kerberos5_server_enable="YES" > > > > CURRENT does not have "Kerberos_stash" in /etc/defaults/rc.conf. > > That's true. I think it's a leftover in my conversion of > the document from -STABLE to -CURRENT. It's not needed in -CURRENT. Aah, I only checked -CURRENT, we should add a note for -CURRENT then (the Handbook covers both -CURRENT and -STABLE). > > "keytab" and all further instances should probably be > > marked up with keytab. > > Definitely for isntances of /etc/krb5.keytab. I was using "keytab" in > it's generic sense here ... does that still qualify for > treatment? > > I think there is a need for a generic term. For example, on the ROSPA > web server there is also a keytab in /usr/local/etc/apache/ (for use > with mod_auth_kerb). Several other daemons also liek their own keytab > and special keytabs are commonly used for Kerberos authenticated cron > jobs. If "keytab" references to file containing keys, we should write keytab. In the handbook "supfile" is used in this way. > > Instead of stating what not to do, it is better to > > explain how to transfer the file in a secure fashion > > (scp, floppy). > > Can we reuse the wording from the krb5.conf section? ok. > > > + telnetd man page for more details. > > ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ > > &man.telnetd.8; > > > Oh, that's how that's done. Neat. I love this one too. It's described in the Documentation Project Primer http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/fdp-primer/index.html which has a lot of other cool stuff :-) > > > + > > > + Is your time in sync? Are you sure? If the time is not in > > > + sync (typically within five minutes) authentication often > > > + fails. > > > > It will fail: > > ... minutes) authentication fails. > > Is it worth adding that the number of minutes of "drift" that is allowed > can be controlled by the krb5.conf "clockskew" setting? No, I don't think so. The chapter should not deal with Kerberos in detail, it should be just a "Getting Started". Describing all details duplicates existing (external) documentation. > > Time synchronization and ticket lifetimes were discussed > > in "Troubleshooting". How about one section "Tips and > > Troubleshooting"? > > I'm not positive that those sections overlap nicely. > > For example, if authentication fails discovering that clockskew can > cause that is troubleshooting. Recommending that NTP be used to prevent > that isn't. > > It coudl be made to work if all the tips were worded such that expressed > the negative ("long ticket lifetimes don't work", etc), but that might > be awkward. Indeed, that sounds strange. If the sections do not duplicate information, I'm fine with them. -- Marxpitn From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Aug 24 17:20:11 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@hub.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 495BF16A4BF for ; Sun, 24 Aug 2003 17:20:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E60C343FCB for ; Sun, 24 Aug 2003 17:20:10 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (gnats@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h7P0KAUp055420 for ; Sun, 24 Aug 2003 17:20:10 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats@freefall.freebsd.org) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.12.9/8.12.9/Submit) id h7P0KAgD055419; Sun, 24 Aug 2003 17:20:10 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sun, 24 Aug 2003 17:20:10 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <200308250020.h7P0KAgD055419@freefall.freebsd.org> To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org From: Rui Lopes Subject: Re: docs/55805: a little correction to the arch-handbook X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Rui Lopes List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 25 Aug 2003 00:20:11 -0000 The following reply was made to PR docs/55805; it has been noted by GNATS. From: Rui Lopes To: Igor Ahmetov Cc: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: docs/55805: a little correction to the arch-handbook Date: 25 Aug 2003 01:22:39 +0100 On S?, 2000-01-01 at 02:24, Igor Ahmetov wrote: [...] > >Description: > Looking into the example in section 13.4 of the arch-handbook (driverbasics/chapter.sgml), > we see a declaration: > typedef struct s_echo { > char msg[BUFFERSIZE]; > int len; > } t_echo; > > And later, in function echo_write, the following statement: > *(echomsg->msg + MIN(uio->uio_iov->iov_len,BUFFERSIZE)) = 0; > > So isn't it more correct to declare member msg of struct s_echo as char msg[BUFFERSIZE + 1]? Take a look at: http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=docs/55445 From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Aug 24 21:32:17 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@hub.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1D7D716A4BF; Sun, 24 Aug 2003 21:32:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AC8B143FDD; Sun, 24 Aug 2003 21:32:16 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from bmah@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (bmah@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h7P4WGUp077296; Sun, 24 Aug 2003 21:32:16 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from bmah@freefall.freebsd.org) Received: (from bmah@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.12.9/8.12.9/Submit) id h7P4WGAM077292; Sun, 24 Aug 2003 21:32:16 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sun, 24 Aug 2003 21:32:16 -0700 (PDT) From: "Bruce A. Mah" Message-Id: <200308250432.h7P4WGAM077292@freefall.freebsd.org> To: l.ertl@univie.ac.at, bmah@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org, bmah@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: docs/55637: [PATCH] catch up ti(4) with hardware notes X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 25 Aug 2003 04:32:17 -0000 Synopsis: [PATCH] catch up ti(4) with hardware notes State-Changed-From-To: open->patched State-Changed-By: bmah State-Changed-When: Sun Aug 24 21:31:36 PDT 2003 State-Changed-Why: Committed to HEAD, thanks! I'll do an MFC soon. Responsible-Changed-From-To: freebsd-doc->bmah Responsible-Changed-By: bmah Responsible-Changed-When: Sun Aug 24 21:31:36 PDT 2003 Responsible-Changed-Why: I'm working on this. http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=55637 From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Aug 25 02:55:21 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@hub.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ADFED16A4BF; Mon, 25 Aug 2003 02:55:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 45F3D43FEA; Mon, 25 Aug 2003 02:55:21 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from blackend@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (blackend@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h7P9tLUp018117; Mon, 25 Aug 2003 02:55:21 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from blackend@freefall.freebsd.org) Received: (from blackend@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.12.9/8.12.9/Submit) id h7P9tKhI018113; Mon, 25 Aug 2003 02:55:20 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 25 Aug 2003 02:55:20 -0700 (PDT) From: Marc Fonvieille Message-Id: <200308250955.h7P9tKhI018113@freefall.freebsd.org> To: j.el-rayes@daemon.li, blackend@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: docs/55939: [patch] article/java-tomcat: fix broken url + typo X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 25 Aug 2003 09:55:21 -0000 Synopsis: [patch] article/java-tomcat: fix broken url + typo State-Changed-From-To: open->closed State-Changed-By: blackend State-Changed-When: Mon Aug 25 02:54:55 PDT 2003 State-Changed-Why: Committed, thanks. http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=55939 From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Aug 25 04:20:05 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2A78F16A4BF for ; Mon, 25 Aug 2003 04:20:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail.ut.caldera.com (mail.ut.caldera.com [216.250.130.2]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 59DDA43FE1 for ; Mon, 25 Aug 2003 04:20:04 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ) Received: (qmail 32175 invoked from network); 25 Aug 2003 11:20:03 -0000 Received: from vms.caldera.com (216.250.130.31) by mail.ut.caldera.com with SMTP; 25 Aug 2003 11:20:03 -0000 Received: from vms.caldera.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by localhost (Postfix) with ESMTP id 51E43A004 for ; Mon, 25 Aug 2003 05:20:03 -0600 (MDT) Received: by vms.caldera.com (Postfix, from userid 1000) id D95E9A006; Mon, 25 Aug 2003 05:20:02 -0600 (MDT) Message-ID: Date: Mon, 25 Aug 2003 05:20:02 -0600 X-Sieve: CMU Sieve 2.2 From: To: In-Reply-To: <20030825112000.0251BA009@vms.caldera.com> Auto-Submitted: auto-replied (vacation) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Subject: Automatic reply - Paul Hatch X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 25 Aug 2003 11:20:05 -0000 This is an automated reply: This person is temporarily out of the office and has left the following note: From: Paul Hatch I am no longer with SCO - I have left to pursue a graduate degree. For all PR related issues, please contact Blake Stowell (bstowell@sco.com) or Schwartz Communications (sco@schwartz-pr.com). Thanks, ~Paul Hatch SCO Public Relations From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Aug 25 05:30:14 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@hub.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CB3AB16A4BF for ; Mon, 25 Aug 2003 05:30:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9754643FF2 for ; Mon, 25 Aug 2003 05:30:13 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (gnats@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h7PCUDUp037521 for ; Mon, 25 Aug 2003 05:30:13 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats@freefall.freebsd.org) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.12.9/8.12.9/Submit) id h7PCUD0w037520; Mon, 25 Aug 2003 05:30:13 -0700 (PDT) Resent-Date: Mon, 25 Aug 2003 05:30:13 -0700 (PDT) Resent-Message-Id: <200308251230.h7PCUD0w037520@freefall.freebsd.org> Resent-From: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.org (GNATS Filer) Resent-To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Resent-Reply-To: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.org, Josef El-Rayes Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CBEF416A4BF for ; Mon, 25 Aug 2003 05:29:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail.ac-net.at (secure.ac-net.at [212.24.125.8]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 20DEB43FB1 for ; Mon, 25 Aug 2003 05:29:46 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from shammer@daemon.li) Received: from localhost (server.ac-net.at [127.0.0.1]) by mail.ac-net.at (AC-net Mailserver v1.3a) with ESMTP id C21703F77 for ; Mon, 25 Aug 2003 14:29:37 +0200 (CEST) Received: from daemon.li (dsl-239-27.utaonline.at [212.152.239.27]) by mail.ac-net.at (AC-net Mailserver v1.3a) with SMTP id 5D2763F5D for ; Mon, 25 Aug 2003 12:29:35 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 800 invoked from network); 25 Aug 2003 12:32:04 -0000 Received: from localhost (HELO daemon.li) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 25 Aug 2003 12:32:04 -0000 Received: (from shammer@localhost) by daemon.li (8.12.6/8.12.7/Submit) id h7PCVxqn000798; Mon, 25 Aug 2003 14:31:59 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from shammer) Message-Id: <200308251231.h7PCVxqn000798@daemon.li> Date: Mon, 25 Aug 2003 14:31:59 +0200 (CEST) From: Josef El-Rayes To: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.org X-Send-Pr-Version: 3.113 Subject: docs/55955: [patch] articles/laptop: add useful ressources X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Josef El-Rayes List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 25 Aug 2003 12:30:15 -0000 >Number: 55955 >Category: docs >Synopsis: [patch] articles/laptop: add useful ressources >Confidential: no >Severity: non-critical >Priority: low >Responsible: freebsd-doc >State: open >Quarter: >Keywords: >Date-Required: >Class: update >Submitter-Id: current-users >Arrival-Date: Mon Aug 25 05:30:12 PDT 2003 >Closed-Date: >Last-Modified: >Originator: Josef El-Rayes >Release: FreeBSD 4.8-STABLE i386 >Organization: >Environment: System: FreeBSD daemon.li 4.8-STABLE FreeBSD 4.8-STABLE #8: Tue Jul 22 18:16:23 CEST 2003 root@daemon.li:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/CUSTOM i386 >Description: doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/articles/laptop/article.sgml: 1) added link to freebsd-mobile mailinglist which is an important ressource for freebsd on laptops 2) added link to xfree86 driver status page to give a good ressource for checking available support of video cards. >How-To-Repeat: >Fix: --- article.sgml.diff begins here --- --- article.sgml.orig Mon Aug 25 13:53:00 2003 +++ article.sgml Mon Aug 25 14:27:39 2003 @@ -47,6 +47,10 @@ The &os; Laptop Compatibility List. + For communications with other &os; laptop users, check out + the + freebsd-mobile mailing list. + XFree86 @@ -55,8 +59,9 @@ supported, but a generic SVGA configuration should work. Check your laptop documentation for which card you have, - and check in the XFree86 documentation (or setup program) - to see whether it is specifically supported. If it is not, use + and check in the XFree86 documentation or the + Driver Status for XFree86[tm] 4.3.0 + website, to see whether it is specifically supported. If it is not, use a generic device (do not go for a name which just looks similar). In XFree86 version 4, you can try your luck with the command XFree86 -configure --- article.sgml.diff ends here --- >Release-Note: >Audit-Trail: >Unformatted: From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Aug 25 11:00:48 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8E9C216A4BF for ; Mon, 25 Aug 2003 11:00:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6925643FAF for ; Mon, 25 Aug 2003 11:00:41 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-bugmaster@freebsd.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (peter@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h7PI0fUp029663 for ; Mon, 25 Aug 2003 11:00:41 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-bugmaster@freebsd.org) Received: (from peter@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.12.9/8.12.9/Submit) id h7PI0e26029657 for freebsd-doc@freebsd.org; Mon, 25 Aug 2003 11:00:40 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 25 Aug 2003 11:00:40 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <200308251800.h7PI0e26029657@freefall.freebsd.org> X-Authentication-Warning: freefall.freebsd.org: peter set sender to owner-bugmaster@freebsd.org using -f From: FreeBSD bugmaster To: FreeBSD doc list Subject: Current unassigned doc problem reports X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 25 Aug 2003 18:00:48 -0000 Current FreeBSD problem reports The following is a listing of current problems submitted by FreeBSD users. These represent problem reports covering all versions including experimental development code and obsolete releases. Bugs can be in one of several states: o - open A problem report has been submitted, no sanity checking performed. a - analyzed The problem is understood and a solution is being sought. f - feedback Further work requires additional information from the originator or the community - possibly confirmation of the effectiveness of a proposed solution. p - patched A patch has been committed, but some issues (MFC and / or confirmation from originator) are still open. s - suspended The problem is not being worked on, due to lack of information or resources. This is a prime candidate for somebody who is looking for a project to do. If the problem cannot be solved at all, it will be closed, rather than suspended. c - closed A problem report is closed when any changes have been integrated, documented, and tested -- or when fixing the problem is abandoned. Critical problems S Submitted Tracker Resp. Description ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- a [2001/10/31] i386/31671 doc 4.4 installer hangs at " Mounting root fr 1 problem total. Serious problems S Submitted Tracker Resp. Description ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- s [2000/07/18] docs/20028 doc ASCII docs should reflect tags o [2001/05/23] docs/27605 doc Cross-document references () s [2002/03/08] docs/35678 doc docproj Makefiles for web are broken for o [2002/03/21] docs/36168 doc -pthread/_THREAD_SAFE docs missing in gcc o [2002/09/13] docs/42762 doc ppp.8 has no description of $env and ~use o [2002/11/14] docs/45303 doc Bug in PDF DocBook rendering f [2003/02/19] docs/48472 doc Documentation unreadable. s [1999/10/04] i386/14135 doc lpt1 nolonger exists after 3.2-RELEASE o [2002/01/15] ports/33929 doc Section 15.15 of the FreeBSD Porter's Han o [2003/08/08] docs/55391 doc plist generation instructions incorrect o [2003/08/15] docs/55613 doc su man page confusing, probably incorrect 11 problems total. Non-critical problems S Submitted Tracker Resp. Description ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- o [2002/02/15] bin/34955 doc [PATCH] ps(1) is out of touch with realit o [2001/02/01] docs/24786 doc missing FILES descriptions in sa(4) o [2001/07/26] docs/29245 doc top(1) manpage doesn't understand SMP a [2001/08/23] docs/30008 doc This document should be translated, comme o [2001/09/27] docs/30873 doc ``ip'' man page does not specify byte ord o [2001/10/07] docs/31109 doc replace gif images w/ png ones due to pat o [2001/11/15] docs/32020 doc loader.8 manpage missing tunables o [2002/01/05] docs/33589 doc Patch to doc.docbook.mk to post process . o [2002/01/13] docs/33852 doc split(1) man page implies that input file o [2002/01/14] docs/33877 doc Documentet behaviour of SF_flags for non- a [2002/02/16] docs/35011 doc There are no commands called "diskless" o o [2001/04/29] docs/26943 doc [patch] description of :C modifier is mis o [2002/02/22] docs/35222 doc mailing list archive URL regexp suboptima o [2002/03/06] docs/35602 doc dump(8)/restore(8) pages don't explain "a o [2002/03/06] docs/35607 doc dump(1) page needs discussion of scary er o [2002/03/06] docs/35608 doc mt(1) page uses "setmark" without explana o [2002/03/06] docs/35609 doc mt(1) page needs explanation of "long era o [2002/03/06] docs/35612 doc ps(1) page "state" description doesn't me o [2002/03/07] docs/35642 doc lo(4) page maybe should document optional o [2002/03/07] docs/35644 doc lo(4) page presumes familiarity with prin o [2002/03/07] docs/35646 doc cp(1) page needs a "Bugs" section. o [2002/03/07] docs/35647 doc www; combine query-by-number and multi-fi o [2002/03/07] docs/35648 doc rc.conf; add note about "flags" to both f o [2002/03/08] docs/35686 doc blackhole(4) page seems to contradict its o [2002/03/08] docs/35687 doc /etc/nsmb.conf missing mention of readers o [2002/03/09] docs/35711 doc the "gnats page" should move to its own s o [2002/03/10] docs/35732 doc adduser(8) page has obsolete reference an o [2002/03/28] docs/36449 doc symlink(7) manual doesn't mention trailin o [2002/03/15] docs/35943 doc at(1) config files are misplaced in /var/ o [2002/03/15] docs/35953 doc hosts.equiv(5) manual is confusing or wro o [2002/03/28] docs/36432 doc Proposal for doc/share/mk: make folded bo o [2002/05/03] docs/37719 doc Detail VOP_ naming in a relevant man-page s [2002/05/07] docs/37843 doc manual for pthread_setschedparam is wrong o [2002/05/18] docs/38225 doc change "CDROM" to "CD-ROM" o [2002/05/25] docs/38556 doc EPS file of beastie, as addition to exist o [2002/05/27] docs/38620 doc Committers Guide and CVS o [2002/05/31] docs/38772 doc firewall_type feature not mentioned on Ha o [2002/06/07] docs/38982 doc developers-hanbook/Jail fix o [2002/06/12] docs/39213 doc No rc(4) man page o [2002/06/15] docs/39348 doc kenv fetch of hostname requires dhcp/boot o [2002/06/19] docs/39530 doc access(2) man page has unnecessarily broa o [2002/06/19] docs/39532 doc 'find' man page should o [2002/06/24] docs/39824 doc Various tweaks for doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/bo o [2002/07/04] docs/40196 doc man find does not describe -follow o [2002/07/10] docs/40423 doc Keyboard(4)'s definition of parameters to o [2002/07/10] docs/40443 doc Update books/faq/book.sgml for USB .ko's o [2002/07/21] docs/40851 doc [PATCH] "mergemaster -p" in UPDATING's "C o [2002/07/28] docs/41089 doc pax -B option does not mention interactio o [2002/07/29] docs/41110 doc "apropos linux" doesn't find brandelf o [2002/08/07] docs/41423 doc Update FAQ: attrib command for windows du o [2002/08/18] docs/41761 doc Update for /ru/internal/ part of site o [2002/08/19] docs/41787 doc man page for route (Section 8) missing de o [2002/08/19] docs/41791 doc Documentation formatting error o [2002/08/02] docs/41270 doc confusing directions for kernelconfig cha o [2002/08/19] docs/41807 doc natd -punch_fw "bug" o [2002/08/20] docs/41820 doc Device driver confusion in Handbook (2.3) a [2002/08/27] docs/42058 doc Documentation: Installing Oracle 8i onto o [2002/10/01] docs/43569 doc src/share/examples/worm/README out-of-dat o [2002/10/04] docs/43651 doc stab(5) incorrectly states to include jus o [2002/10/09] docs/43861 doc non-trivial typo in wicontrol man page o [2002/10/11] docs/43941 doc Rationale for Upgrade Sequence o [2002/10/14] docs/44074 doc ln(1) manual clarifications [patch] o [2002/10/23] docs/44400 doc ipfw(8) has contradictions in bridged and o [2002/10/24] docs/44435 doc sysctl manpage: add example for tcsh o [2002/10/29] docs/44594 doc Handbook doesn't mention drivers.flp for o [2002/11/17] docs/45371 doc man page for exports lacks information on o [2002/12/02] docs/45940 doc burncd missing info o [2002/12/11] docs/46181 doc "make fetch-recursive" target description o [2002/12/11] docs/46196 doc Missing return value in (set_)menu_format o [2002/12/11] docs/46200 doc fix for ru_RU.KOI8-R/books/porters-handbo o [2002/12/16] docs/46291 doc correlation between HZ kernel config para o [2002/12/16] docs/46295 doc please add information to Nvi recovery em o [2003/01/02] docs/46709 doc tables in terminfo.5 are broken o [2003/01/05] docs/46793 doc DEVICE_POLLING can not be used with SMP, o [2003/01/14] docs/47085 doc boot(8) manpage is incomplete according t o [2003/01/27] docs/47575 doc Clarify requirements for IPFW2 in STABLE o [2003/01/28] docs/47594 doc [PATH] passwd(5) incorrectly states allow o [2003/01/30] docs/47690 doc builtin(1) manpage is wrong about externa o [2003/01/30] docs/47705 doc wc(1) manpage has poor explanations. f [2003/02/02] docs/47818 doc ln(1) manpage is confusing f [2003/02/07] docs/48038 doc [PATCH] add Tips and Tricks section into o [2003/02/12] docs/48210 doc make -q only does what the manpage says i o [2003/02/28] docs/48767 doc wrong key numbers for left/right windows o [2003/03/06] docs/48980 doc [PATCH] nsgmls -s errors and sect. 3.2.1 o [2003/03/14] docs/50013 doc [PATCH] add much more russian holydays o [2003/03/23] docs/50211 doc [PATCH] Fix textfile creation o [2003/03/27] docs/50349 doc make release fails with NO_OPENSSH and ! f [2003/03/28] docs/50391 doc Incorrect information in a man o [2003/04/03] docs/50573 doc return values for res_query/res_search/re f [2003/04/07] docs/50677 doc [PATCH] update doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/ o [2003/04/10] docs/50773 doc NFS problems by jumbo frames to mention i o [2003/05/06] docs/51875 doc atkbd(4) adjustment o [2003/05/06] docs/51891 doc DIAGNOSTICS in ed driver manpage don't ma o [2003/05/07] docs/51921 doc ls(1) manpage lacks some information abou o [2003/05/11] docs/52071 doc [PATCH] Add more information about soft u o [2003/05/25] docs/52672 doc Porter's Handbook: couple of corrections o [2003/06/02] docs/52878 doc [PATCH] security(7): small clairification o [2003/06/13] docs/53303 doc mount(2) man page error o [2003/06/14] docs/53315 doc [PATCH] remove extraneous whitespace at t o [2003/06/18] docs/53454 doc wrong sample code in manpage of wcwidth(3 o [2003/06/19] docs/53501 doc [PATCH] Handbook: update snapshots sectio o [2003/06/20] docs/53575 doc Change to Handbook Section 20.9 o [2003/06/21] docs/53596 doc Updates to mt manual page o [2003/06/25] docs/53732 doc quota output and man page do not document o [2003/06/26] docs/53751 doc bus_dma(9) incorrectly documents BUS_DMA_ o [2003/07/07] docs/54197 doc Mentioning of devfs is missing in the Ger o [2003/07/11] docs/54380 doc [PATCH] document additional perl variable o [2003/07/11] docs/54391 doc Document that glob(3) respects LC_COLLATE o [2002/03/20] misc/36154 doc Getting USB mouse to work: usbd and mouse o [2003/07/20] docs/54678 doc [patch] add PACKAGESITE to packages chapt o [2003/07/22] docs/54752 doc bus_dma explained in ISA section: should o [2003/07/22] docs/54769 doc [patch] updates to FAQ o [2003/07/23] docs/54789 doc [PATCH] brush up the "New Users" article o [2003/07/24] docs/54806 doc [patch] adds fvwm2 to x11-wm o [2003/07/25] docs/54879 doc man 1 jot, -r description o [2003/07/28] docs/54995 doc Error in accept(2) man page o [2003/07/28] docs/54999 doc Documentation Project Primer doesn't conf o [2003/08/03] docs/55207 doc [patch] update acroread section & add loc o [2003/08/03] docs/55226 doc [PATCH] handbook: add nonbreaking spaces o [2003/08/05] docs/55276 doc [patch] Update tuning.7 to reflect phk's o [2003/08/06] docs/55306 doc [patch] adds filemanagers to desktop appl o [2003/08/10] docs/55445 doc [PATCH] off-by-one bug in example code o [2003/08/11] docs/55458 doc [patch] add useful content & hints to por o [2003/08/11] docs/55482 doc DUMP has access to block devices in a JAI o [2003/08/13] docs/55538 doc [patch] add screenshots to desktop chapte o [2003/08/13] docs/55558 doc [PATCH] catch up isp(4) with hardware not o [2003/08/13] docs/55559 doc [PATCH] catch up rl(4) with hardware note o [2003/08/13] docs/55562 doc [PATCH] document SC_NO_SUSPEND_VTYSWITCH o [2003/08/15] docs/55605 doc stg driver lacks a man page o [2003/08/16] docs/55641 doc [PATCH] catch up tl(4) with hardware note o [2003/08/16] docs/55643 doc [PATCH] catch up aue(4) with hardware not o [2003/08/16] docs/55645 doc [PATCH] catch up kue(4) with hardware not o [2003/08/16] docs/55653 doc chflags.1 - note that not all tools chfla o [2003/08/20] docs/55805 doc a little correction to the arch-handbook o [2003/08/21] docs/55837 doc nice: man pages incorrect (4.8,5.0&5.1) o [2003/08/22] docs/55883 doc advanced-networking/chapter.sgml o [2003/08/24] docs/55925 doc mt, mtio, tcopy man pages refers to *rsa o [2003/08/25] docs/55955 doc [patch] articles/laptop: add useful resso 138 problems total. From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Aug 25 14:41:25 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C055516A4BF for ; Mon, 25 Aug 2003 14:41:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lyris.lyris.net (wood.lyris.net [216.91.57.29]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id E067843FDF for ; Mon, 25 Aug 2003 14:41:24 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from bounce-heroicstories-1174960@lyris.net) X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-99.2 required=5.0 Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: Date: Mon, 25 Aug 2003 14:00:00 -0700 To: doc@freebsd.org From: HeroicStories Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" Subject: HeroicStories #438: The Color Blind Hug X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Don't Mail Here!See Bottom of Message List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 25 Aug 2003 21:41:26 -0000 Reaching more than 31,000 subscribers in 103 countries, this is... ------------------------------------------------------------------------ HeroicStories #438: 25 August 2003 www.HeroicStories.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------ The Color Blind Hug Story Editor: by Susan Golian Joyce Schowalter California, USA When I was 24 I suffered my fourth miscarriage. My Air Force husband was assigned to another base for six weeks, so I was all alone in a small town in the western USA. I had learned two days earlier by ultrasound that this was an unsuccessful pregnancy, and my doctor wanted me to "let nature take its course." I was to walk a great deal and that would lead to a natural end of things. After a long, depressing walk I climbed into bed and pulled the covers up over my head to sleep and grieve. Many hours later the doorbell awakened me and I discovered I had hemorrhaged while sleeping. I opened the door to find one of my girlfriends, thank goodness, who immediately drove me to the hospital. I was admitted to the maternity floor (no shortage of irony there) and a nurse came in to start an I.V. for me. I had a tremendous fear of needles and, having lost a huge amount of blood, my veins collapsed. I finally lost my composure and sobbed uncontrollably during the I.V. ordeal and the brief wait for someone to cart me down to surgery. The orderly arrived, an enormous, sweet-faced black man. For the record, I am so white I practically glow in the dark. I continued to weep as he pushed me down the hall and into the elevator car. We started down to the surgery floor and suddenly he pushed the stop button and the elevator car jerked to a halt. He came around the side of the gurney and bent down over me. He gently scooped the top half of me up into his arms and cradled me against his chest, rocked me like a baby and murmured encouragement and blessings. After a couple minutes I settled into those post-hysterical cry hiccups. Then he kissed the top of my head saying, "God bless and keep you," and tenderly laid me back down, smoothed my hair and punched the "Go" button. The elevator lurched back into action and he wheeled me into the surgery prep area. Amazingly, my husband appeared at my side just before they wheeled me into the operating room. My girlfriend had called someone with enough juice to make an Air Force pilot throw him into a fast jet and whisk him back to my side. I was, of course, glad to see my husband. But I will never forget the tender comfort given me in the elevator. That man risked so much to soothe me. What if I had complained to the hospital that he had touched me while we were alone? He risked his job and possibly his career. His behavior was in stark contrast to the way almost everyone else had treated me during each of my miscarriages; as "just a body" instead of as a feeling person. I don't know this man's name, but I have no doubt that others are being comforted by him to this day. ----------==========----------o----------==========---------- Let HeroicStories help you market your product, or promote a cause you care about. See http://www.HeroicStories.com for details. Thanks to all our readers who have contributed support to HS for three years. To see their names, or to add yours, see http://www.HeroicStories.com/fund.html ----------==========----------o----------==========---------- Thanks to all those who wrote about our first "HeroicStories" recipes, which resulted from the story "The Greatest Gift" (#435), which mentioned two recipes. Well, our first recipes for the *kitchen* that is, every week we deliver recipes for being a better person in our stories. Several readers wrote to ask if we meant "1/4 cup" or "1/3 cup" sugar in one of the recipes. The quantities are corrected now, at: http://heroicstories.com/435.html . We received quite a response to "Send It All!" (HS#437). Chris in Colorado wrote: "Thanks for sending out this story. I've never commented on a HeroicStories issue before, but this one really reverberated with me. It was so refreshing to read about Declan's first glimpse of the joy that charity (and for that matter, activism in general) can provide. The idea that you can reach out and make a change for the better often doesn't dawn on people today. Here's hoping that Declan continues to feel that he can really make a difference in our world." Pat from Pennsylvania:"What a truly wonderful story! Declan shows us all that giving is from the heart." Janelle in Kansas: "I believe Tamara is another hero in this story. A child who can reason out 'But that's OK, because lots of people look at the trains, and I'm the only one that would play with this car' at only 4 years old must have a wonderful example of generosity to learn from. But I noticed something else that I think makes Tamara a hero. When they were discussing what to do with the money, she reminded Declan that he wouldn't be able to buy any toys for a while. And when they were at the grocery store, he put a toy back because HE didn't have any money. I applaud Tamara for teaching her son at such an early age that money has value and choices have consequences. When he does accumulate enough money to buy another toy, I'm sure he will appreciate it, value it, and take care of it -- much more than if he got any toy he wanted at the grocery store simply by begging Mom to buy it for him." Patti in Virginia writes the author, "Tamara, please write down your parenting tips and PUBLISH them! Your little boy sounds like he's growing up in a household that encourages this kind of selfless behaviour. I realize that some of that has to do with the child's *nature*, but the *nurture* part of it is huge. Declan is wise and compassionate in ways that I don't see in many adults, let alone in many children." Speaking of kids, Happy Birthday, August! Joyce Schowalter, Editor in Chief Co-Conspirator to Make the World a Better Place SUBSCRIPTIONS to HeroicStories are FREE. 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From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Aug 25 14:12:52 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AA0CD16A4BF for ; Mon, 25 Aug 2003 14:12:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: from imo-d06.mx.aol.com (imo-d06.mx.aol.com [205.188.157.38]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A3DDC43FA3 for ; Mon, 25 Aug 2003 14:12:51 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from Godmath9@wmconnect.com) Received: from Godmath9@wmconnect.com by imo-d06.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v36_r1.1.) id n.f7.2f81351e (25508); Mon, 25 Aug 2003 17:12:38 -0400 (EDT) From: Godmath9@wmconnect.com Message-ID: Date: Mon, 25 Aug 2003 17:12:37 EDT To: doc@FreeBSD.org MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: 6.0 for Windows XP sub 52 X-Mailman-Approved-At: Mon, 25 Aug 2003 15:30:17 -0700 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.1 cc: Godmath9@wmconnect.com Subject: getting disks & handbook X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 25 Aug 2003 21:12:52 -0000 HI! I want to get BSD unix disks, & don't know who I can trust for the price. I hope you can sell me the disks or direct me ti a reliable source. Thank you, Bob Doyle From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Aug 25 20:24:51 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8AFDB16A4BF for ; Mon, 25 Aug 2003 20:24:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: from bessel.tekniikka.turkuamk.fi (bessel.tekniikka.turkuamk.fi [193.166.133.10]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 66CA043F93 for ; Mon, 25 Aug 2003 20:24:50 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from eyurtese@bessel.tekniikka.turkuamk.fi) Received: from localhost (eyurtese@localhost) by bessel.tekniikka.turkuamk.fi (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id GAA26884 for ; Tue, 26 Aug 2003 06:24:49 +0300 Date: Tue, 26 Aug 2003 06:24:49 +0300 (WET) From: Evren Yurtesen To: freebsd-docs@freebsd.org Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Subject: ftpd man page is little bit wrong X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 26 Aug 2003 03:24:51 -0000 I tried to use -u option of ftpd without any success for 2 hours! Then I thought lets see whats going on inside the sources... Voila, the -u option is overridden by login.conf /* May be overridden by login.conf */ (void) umask(defumask); Cant anybody put this into the man page of ftpd so that people will know why their -u option doesnt work? :) I was really mad at ftpd Evren From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Aug 25 21:53:07 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6AB7116A4BF for ; Mon, 25 Aug 2003 21:53:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: from cpanel07.gzo.com (cpanel07.gzo.com [64.157.176.63]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B1EFE43FDD for ; Mon, 25 Aug 2003 21:53:06 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from shahrabi@zaeim.com) Received: from [212.165.86.4] (helo=Darya) by cpanel07.gzo.com with smtp (Exim 4.20) id 19rVpD-0003V5-4M; Mon, 25 Aug 2003 23:53:01 -0500 Message-ID: <005001c36b8e$22a320b0$59071eac@Darya> From: "Reza Shahrabi" To: Date: Tue, 26 Aug 2003 09:24:19 +0430 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - cpanel07.gzo.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - freebsd.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - zaeim.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1256" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.1 Subject: question X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 26 Aug 2003 04:53:07 -0000 hi I have a problem with FreeBSD Mail Server. from few days ago in mail server this Message is prompted : " Aug 26 8:35:55 molavi ( the name of this server ) qmail : 1061873351 . = 361023 alert : unable to append a bounce a message : HELP ! Sleeping = ..... " and form this days we are not receiving any mail . so i would like to = say me what should i do . and what does it mean ?=20 thanks Reza shahrabi From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Aug 26 00:00:37 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@hub.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 79ECC16A4BF for ; Tue, 26 Aug 2003 00:00:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0601143FBF for ; Tue, 26 Aug 2003 00:00:36 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (gnats@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h7Q70ZUp011694 for ; Tue, 26 Aug 2003 00:00:35 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats@freefall.freebsd.org) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.12.9/8.12.9/Submit) id h7Q70ZxN011692; Tue, 26 Aug 2003 00:00:35 -0700 (PDT) Resent-Date: Tue, 26 Aug 2003 00:00:35 -0700 (PDT) Resent-Message-Id: <200308260700.h7Q70ZxN011692@freefall.freebsd.org> Resent-From: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.org (GNATS Filer) Resent-To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Resent-Reply-To: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.org, Denis Peplin Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 185B416A4C0 for ; Mon, 25 Aug 2003 23:55:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail.sg.vsmi.ru (vsmi-gw.sprint-v.com.ru [81.22.1.67]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3B99243FF7 for ; Mon, 25 Aug 2003 23:55:00 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from info@volginfo.ru) Received: by mail.sg.vsmi.ru (Postfix, from userid 426) id CF80F1CDDC; Tue, 26 Aug 2003 10:54:57 +0400 (MSD) Received: from exp.local (unknown [192.168.0.199]) by mail.sg.vsmi.ru (Postfix) with ESMTP id 12D881CDDA for ; Tue, 26 Aug 2003 10:54:57 +0400 (MSD) Message-Id: <200308261054.57546.info@volginfo.ru> Date: Tue, 26 Aug 2003 10:54:57 +0400 From: Denis Peplin To: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.org Subject: docs/55987: [PATCH] correct a few in handbook X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 26 Aug 2003 07:00:37 -0000 >Number: 55987 >Category: docs >Synopsis: [PATCH] correct a few in handbook >Confidential: no >Severity: non-critical >Priority: medium >Responsible: freebsd-doc >State: open >Quarter: >Keywords: >Date-Required: >Class: doc-bug >Submitter-Id: current-users >Arrival-Date: Tue Aug 26 00:00:35 PDT 2003 >Closed-Date: >Last-Modified: >Originator: User & >Release: FreeBSD 5.1-RELEASE-p2 i386 >Organization: >Environment: System: FreeBSD exp.local 5.1-RELEASE-p2 FreeBSD 5.1-RELEASE-p2 #0: Mon Aug 11 15:07:04 MSD 2003 root@exp.local:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/EXP i386 >Description: see fix below >How-To-Repeat: >Fix: Index: advanced-networking/chapter.sgml =================================================================== RCS file: /home/ncvs/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/advanced-networking/chapter.sgml,v retrieving revision 1.234 diff -u -r1.234 chapter.sgml --- advanced-networking/chapter.sgml 21 Jul 2003 13:35:50 -0000 1.234 +++ advanced-networking/chapter.sgml 25 Aug 2003 22:47:43 -0000 @@ -715,7 +715,7 @@ point or another client directly. Typically, wireless clients only have one network device, - the wireless networking card. + the wireless networking card. There are a few different ways to configure a wireless client. These are based on the different wireless modes, @@ -888,7 +888,7 @@ a wi0 interface. If you had a Cisco wireless device, it would come up as an0, and therefore you would use - &man.ancontrol.8;. + &man.ancontrol.8;. @@ -1107,7 +1107,7 @@ that there is no support for spanning tree link management. A bridge can add latency to your ping times, especially for - traffic from one segment to another. + traffic from one segment to another. @@ -2060,7 +2060,7 @@ /usr/share/examples/diskless/clone_root shell script. This script needs customization, at least to adjust the place where the filesystem will be created (the - DEST variable). + DEST variable). Refer to the comments at the top of the script for instructions. They explain how the base filesystem is built, @@ -6578,7 +6578,7 @@ Background on IPv6 Addresses There are different types of IPv6 addresses: Unicast, Anycast and - Multicast. + Multicast. Unicast addresses are the well known addresses. A packet sent to a unicast address arrives exactly at the interface belonging to Index: config/chapter.sgml =================================================================== RCS file: /home/ncvs/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/config/chapter.sgml,v retrieving revision 1.117 diff -u -r1.117 chapter.sgml --- config/chapter.sgml 31 Jul 2003 11:26:43 -0000 1.117 +++ config/chapter.sgml 25 Aug 2003 22:42:19 -0000 @@ -137,7 +137,7 @@ of the files required to support the system, the &man.ports.7; collection (recommended) and the source code (optional). Both of which are optional at install time. - At least 2 gigabytes would be recommended for this partition. + At least 2 gigabytes would be recommended for this partition. When selecting partition sizes, keep the space requirements in mind. Running out of space in @@ -548,6 +548,7 @@ option is available. This will invoke the selected editor with an empty file. When the file is saved, it will be automatically installed by the crontab command. + Index: desktop/chapter.sgml =================================================================== RCS file: /home/ncvs/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/desktop/chapter.sgml,v retrieving revision 1.26 diff -u -r1.26 chapter.sgml --- desktop/chapter.sgml 31 Jul 2003 05:54:50 -0000 1.26 +++ desktop/chapter.sgml 25 Aug 2003 22:40:17 -0000 @@ -265,7 +265,7 @@ not worked for me. Install the www/mozilla port, - if Mozilla is not already installed. + if Mozilla is not already installed. Now copy the flash plug-in files with: Index: linuxemu/chapter.sgml =================================================================== RCS file: /home/ncvs/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/linuxemu/chapter.sgml,v retrieving revision 1.89 diff -u -r1.89 chapter.sgml --- linuxemu/chapter.sgml 13 Jul 2003 19:45:58 -0000 1.89 +++ linuxemu/chapter.sgml 25 Aug 2003 21:03:54 -0000 @@ -1474,7 +1474,7 @@ It might also be a good idea to add linprocfs to /etc/fstab. See man linprocfs. Another parameter to set is kern.fallback_elf_brand=3 - which is done in file /etc/sysctl.conf. + which is done in file /etc/sysctl.conf. Index: mirrors/chapter.sgml =================================================================== RCS file: /home/ncvs/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/mirrors/chapter.sgml,v retrieving revision 1.312 diff -u -r1.312 chapter.sgml --- mirrors/chapter.sgml 20 Jul 2003 19:51:02 -0000 1.312 +++ mirrors/chapter.sgml 25 Aug 2003 21:02:56 -0000 @@ -4698,7 +4698,7 @@ United States of America - rsync://ftp-master.FreeBSD.org/ + rsync://ftp-master.FreeBSD.org/ This server may only be used by FreeBSD primary mirror sites. Index: multimedia/chapter.sgml =================================================================== RCS file: /home/ncvs/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/multimedia/chapter.sgml,v retrieving revision 1.52 diff -u -r1.52 chapter.sgml --- multimedia/chapter.sgml 13 Jul 2003 20:36:52 -0000 1.52 +++ multimedia/chapter.sgml 25 Aug 2003 21:01:45 -0000 @@ -1175,7 +1175,7 @@ To play from file, such as testfile.avi through one of the various - video interfaces set the : + video interfaces set the : &prompt.user; mplayer -vo xv testfile.avi &prompt.user; mplayer -vo sdl testfile.avi Index: security/chapter.sgml =================================================================== RCS file: /home/ncvs/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/security/chapter.sgml,v retrieving revision 1.164 diff -u -r1.164 chapter.sgml --- security/chapter.sgml 30 Jul 2003 13:49:47 -0000 1.164 +++ security/chapter.sgml 25 Aug 2003 21:00:44 -0000 @@ -3178,7 +3178,7 @@ Once this packet arrives at W.X.Y.Z it will need to unencapsulated, and delivered to 192.168.2.1. + role="ipaddr">192.168.2.1. You can think of this as requiring a tunnel >Release-Note: >Audit-Trail: >Unformatted: From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Aug 26 00:04:04 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@hub.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E10B816A4C1; Tue, 26 Aug 2003 00:04:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7D38043FBD; Tue, 26 Aug 2003 00:04:04 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from blackend@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (blackend@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h7Q744Up012946; Tue, 26 Aug 2003 00:04:04 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from blackend@freefall.freebsd.org) Received: (from blackend@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.12.9/8.12.9/Submit) id h7Q744Ds012942; Tue, 26 Aug 2003 00:04:04 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 26 Aug 2003 00:04:04 -0700 (PDT) From: Marc Fonvieille Message-Id: <200308260704.h7Q744Ds012942@freefall.freebsd.org> To: blackend@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org, blackend@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: docs/55987: [PATCH] correct a few in handbook X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 26 Aug 2003 07:04:05 -0000 Synopsis: [PATCH] correct a few in handbook Responsible-Changed-From-To: freebsd-doc->blackend Responsible-Changed-By: blackend Responsible-Changed-When: Tue Aug 26 00:03:39 PDT 2003 Responsible-Changed-Why: I'll take this one. http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=55987 From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Aug 26 00:43:02 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@hub.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8F09C16A4BF; Tue, 26 Aug 2003 00:43:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 29A1043FBF; Tue, 26 Aug 2003 00:43:02 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from blackend@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (blackend@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h7Q7h2Up018333; Tue, 26 Aug 2003 00:43:02 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from blackend@freefall.freebsd.org) Received: (from blackend@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.12.9/8.12.9/Submit) id h7Q7h1LE018329; Tue, 26 Aug 2003 00:43:01 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 26 Aug 2003 00:43:01 -0700 (PDT) From: Marc Fonvieille Message-Id: <200308260743.h7Q7h1LE018329@freefall.freebsd.org> To: j.el-rayes@daemon.li, blackend@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: docs/55955: [patch] articles/laptop: add useful ressources X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 26 Aug 2003 07:43:02 -0000 Synopsis: [patch] articles/laptop: add useful ressources State-Changed-From-To: open->closed State-Changed-By: blackend State-Changed-When: Tue Aug 26 00:40:02 PDT 2003 State-Changed-Why: I committed a different version of your patch: - I used mailing list entity instead of the ulink scheme - For the link to the XFree86 Driver Status page, I removed the version number, it will avoid multiple updates in future. Thanks. http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=55955 From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Aug 26 00:52:43 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AE0DF16A4BF; Tue, 26 Aug 2003 00:52:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: from abigail.blackend.org (blackend.org [212.11.35.229]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D997643FE1; Tue, 26 Aug 2003 00:52:40 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from marc@blackend.org) Received: from nosferatu.blackend.org (nosferatu.blackend.org [192.168.10.205]) by abigail.blackend.org (8.12.9/8.12.3) with ESMTP id h7Q7qbk9065780; Tue, 26 Aug 2003 09:52:37 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from marc@abigail.blackend.org) Received: from nosferatu.blackend.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) h7Q7pmIM000829; Tue, 26 Aug 2003 09:51:48 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from marc@nosferatu.blackend.org) Received: (from marc@localhost) by nosferatu.blackend.org (8.12.9/8.12.9/Submit) id h7Q7pmHI000828; Tue, 26 Aug 2003 09:51:48 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from marc) Date: Tue, 26 Aug 2003 09:51:48 +0200 From: Marc Fonvieille To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Message-ID: <20030826075148.GA806@nosferatu.blackend.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.4i X-Useless-Header: blackend.org X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 5.1-CURRENT cc: simon@FreeBSD.org Subject: Another "annoying" trademark :) X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 26 Aug 2003 07:52:43 -0000 Hi, Well I just read this: XFree86(TM) is a trademark of The XFree86 Project, Inc, and is pending registration. Maybe we can wait for the registration to be effective... TradeMarc From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Aug 26 01:21:04 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E3C2816A4C0 for ; Tue, 26 Aug 2003 01:21:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: from milla.ask33.net (milla.ask33.net [217.197.166.60]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2961943FB1 for ; Tue, 26 Aug 2003 01:21:04 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nick@milla.ask33.net) Received: by milla.ask33.net (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 08B973ABB4E; Tue, 26 Aug 2003 10:22:21 +0200 (CEST) Date: Tue, 26 Aug 2003 10:22:20 +0200 From: Pawel Jakub Dawidek To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20030826082220.GG47959@garage.freebsd.pl> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-md5; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="Ut0KX4oafLh8aNyr" Content-Disposition: inline X-PGP-Key-URL: http://garage.freebsd.pl/jules.asc X-OS: FreeBSD 4.8-RELEASE-p3 i386 X-URL: http://garage.freebsd.pl User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.1i Subject: bsd.kmod.mk and manual pages. X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 26 Aug 2003 08:21:05 -0000 --Ut0KX4oafLh8aNyr Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-2 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello. How to put manual page to kld module using bsd.kmod.mk? There are some examples in /sys/modules/ of such usage: [...] KMOD=3D foo [...] MAN4=3D foo.4 [...] but I'm not sure what for, because bsd.kmod.mk ignores it. So how could I hook up manual page placed in one directory with module to the build? Thanks. --=20 Pawel Jakub Dawidek pawel@dawidek.net UNIX Systems Programmer/Administrator http://garage.freebsd.pl Am I Evil? Yes, I Am! http://cerber.sourceforge.net --Ut0KX4oafLh8aNyr Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.7 (FreeBSD) iQCVAwUBP0sYvD/PhmMH/Mf1AQHBIAQAhQA8V1TEGEb4O+XWcypSegZw6fXERROW 1liofLpJh7F7GKHndmgZekveVKxg4rOb8XLdv6S+dBWI0mphcYxKNpmQW1JGoJco vSxwPyZDWLv1qR3kqkrK9O8IcWfQTOQz54grhX+oGqhAK0JcBW5fHpxwrmVqoaC3 sbOHYXulRWQ= =TUxK -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Ut0KX4oafLh8aNyr-- From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Aug 26 04:44:22 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 31BB916A4BF for ; Tue, 26 Aug 2003 04:44:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: from web21001.mail.yahoo.com (web21001.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.227.55]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id E438543FE1 for ; Tue, 26 Aug 2003 04:44:21 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from bschandramohan@yahoo.com) Message-ID: <20030826114421.33535.qmail@web21001.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [202.56.254.13] by web21001.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Tue, 26 Aug 2003 04:44:21 PDT Date: Tue, 26 Aug 2003 04:44:21 -0700 (PDT) From: Chandra mohan To: doc@FreeBSD.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Subject: Serial and UART Tutorial X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 26 Aug 2003 11:44:22 -0000 Hi, I am just starting an UART Character device driver implementation with friends. \ Just wanted to know if there is any documentation relating to implementation of the same or if project source code under GPL is available for the same. Thanks, Chandra Mohan __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free, easy-to-use web site design software http://sitebuilder.yahoo.com From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Aug 26 05:22:59 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E38FB16A4BF; Tue, 26 Aug 2003 05:22:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: from arthur.nitro.dk (port324.ds1-khk.adsl.cybercity.dk [212.242.113.79]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3E8C143FCB; Tue, 26 Aug 2003 05:22:59 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from simon@arthur.nitro.dk) Received: by arthur.nitro.dk (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 6A7A010BF8C; Tue, 26 Aug 2003 14:22:57 +0200 (CEST) Date: Tue, 26 Aug 2003 14:22:57 +0200 From: "Simon L. Nielsen" To: Marc Fonvieille Message-ID: <20030826122255.GA403@FreeBSD.org> References: <20030826075148.GA806@nosferatu.blackend.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="LQksG6bCIzRHxTLp" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20030826075148.GA806@nosferatu.blackend.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.4i cc: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: Another "annoying" trademark :) X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 26 Aug 2003 12:23:00 -0000 X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 26 Aug 2003 12:23:00 -0000 --LQksG6bCIzRHxTLp Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 2003.08.26 09:51:48 +0200, Marc Fonvieille wrote: > Well I just read this: >=20 > XFree86(TM) is a trademark of The XFree86 Project, Inc, and is pending > registration. There is no policy on usage of the trademark on the XFree86 website, so I wrote them a mail two weeks requesting some sort of guidelines. So far I have only recieved a mail saying that they have recieved my mail, and that my mail has been forwarded to the XFree86 Bord Of Directors / Core. When I hear something back, and if they request that we use (tm), I plan handle it like the other trademarks. The reason that I didn't just include it in my current work, is that some organizations don't request/require that you use trademark symbols. Most prominent examples are... FreeBSD and Linux. I have no idea what effect that have with regards to protecting the trademark. Of course the FreeBSD trademark is a more complicated story due to the Walnut Creek -> BSDi -> Wind River acquisitions. > Maybe we can wait for the registration to be effective... That could take a very long time, so when somebody from XFree86 respond, I plan to handle it along with all the other unregistered trademarks. E.g. the registration process of 'FreeBSD' took 2 years acording to US Patent & Trademark office records, and the XFree86 trademark claim was only filed 2003-04-22. > TradeMarc :-) --=20 Simon L. Nielsen FreeBSD Documentation Team --LQksG6bCIzRHxTLp Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.3 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQE/S1Efh9pcDSc1mlERAlMzAJ9EPmHu9QJeTAijn3CG/LvFIcqHPACfa/TG kVil8Rz5u2K3GL3Gplb3eW4= =meO4 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --LQksG6bCIzRHxTLp-- From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Aug 26 08:25:33 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F3FEB16A4BF for ; Tue, 26 Aug 2003 08:25:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pittgoth.com (14.zlnp1.xdsl.nauticom.net [209.195.149.111]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EB19E43FCB for ; Tue, 26 Aug 2003 08:25:31 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from trhodes@FreeBSD.org) Received: from localhost (acs-24-154-229-196.zoominternet.net [24.154.229.196]) by pittgoth.com (8.12.9/8.12.9) with SMTP id h7QFPUvd076745 for ; Tue, 26 Aug 2003 11:25:30 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from trhodes@FreeBSD.org) Date: Tue, 26 Aug 2003 10:56:21 -0400 From: Tom Rhodes To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Message-Id: <20030826105621.31c83b95.trhodes@FreeBSD.org> In-Reply-To: <20030826082220.GG47959@garage.freebsd.pl> References: <20030826082220.GG47959@garage.freebsd.pl> X-Mailer: Sylpheed version 0.9.3claws (GTK+ 1.2.10; i386-portbld-freebsd5.1) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: bsd.kmod.mk and manual pages. X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 26 Aug 2003 15:25:33 -0000 On Tue, 26 Aug 2003 10:22:20 +0200 Pawel Jakub Dawidek wrote: > Hello. > > How to put manual page to kld module using bsd.kmod.mk? > > There are some examples in /sys/modules/ of such usage: > > [...] > KMOD= foo > [...] > MAN4= foo.4 > [...] > Usually driver manual pages are added to section four, and then they are built with the Makefile from that location. Or did I misinterpret your question? -- Tom Rhodes From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Aug 26 08:38:32 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A80F616A4BF for ; Tue, 26 Aug 2003 08:38:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: from arthur.nitro.dk (port324.ds1-khk.adsl.cybercity.dk [212.242.113.79]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0CE5E43FB1 for ; Tue, 26 Aug 2003 08:38:32 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from simon@arthur.nitro.dk) Received: by arthur.nitro.dk (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 794EF10BF8C; Tue, 26 Aug 2003 17:38:30 +0200 (CEST) Date: Tue, 26 Aug 2003 17:38:30 +0200 From: "Simon L. Nielsen" To: Godmath9@wmconnect.com Message-ID: <20030826153828.GC403@FreeBSD.org> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="BwCQnh7xodEAoBMC" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.4i cc: doc@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: getting disks & handbook X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 26 Aug 2003 15:38:32 -0000 --BwCQnh7xodEAoBMC Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 2003.08.25 17:12:37 -0400, Godmath9@wmconnect.com wrote: > HI! I want to get BSD unix disks, & don't know who I can trust for the pr= ice.=20 > I hope you can sell me the disks or direct me ti a reliable source. Thank= =20 > you, Bob Doyle The FreeBSD Handbook lists several resellers or you can download it yourself. Please see http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/mirrors.html . This is the mailing lists for the FreeBSD documentation, so please direct any further questions to the freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list. --=20 Simon L. Nielsen FreeBSD Documentation Team --BwCQnh7xodEAoBMC Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.3 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQE/S370h9pcDSc1mlERAtN0AJ9HABB0wU8S8qnHb2J8q7yObmpoHACgx3/W dJ7B14sV7o9SY8MJ9pOGAYE= =ij7c -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --BwCQnh7xodEAoBMC-- From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Aug 26 08:42:42 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8F19716A4BF for ; Tue, 26 Aug 2003 08:42:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: from arthur.nitro.dk (port324.ds1-khk.adsl.cybercity.dk [212.242.113.79]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E453C43F85 for ; Tue, 26 Aug 2003 08:42:41 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from simon@arthur.nitro.dk) Received: by arthur.nitro.dk (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 2F38810BF8C; Tue, 26 Aug 2003 17:42:41 +0200 (CEST) Date: Tue, 26 Aug 2003 17:42:41 +0200 From: "Simon L. Nielsen" To: Evren Yurtesen Message-ID: <20030826154240.GD403@FreeBSD.org> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="ZwgA9U+XZDXt4+m+" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.4i cc: freebsd-docs@freebsd.org Subject: Re: ftpd man page is little bit wrong X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 26 Aug 2003 15:42:42 -0000 --ZwgA9U+XZDXt4+m+ Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 2003.08.26 06:24:49 +0300, Evren Yurtesen wrote: > I tried to use -u option of ftpd without any success for 2 hours! > Then I thought lets see whats going on inside the sources... > Voila, the -u option is overridden by login.conf >=20 > /* May be overridden by login.conf */ =20 > (void) umask(defumask);=20 >=20 > Cant anybody put this into the man page of ftpd so that people will know > why their -u option doesnt work? :) I was really mad at ftpd I have actually had this on my TODO list for some time, but I haven't gotten around to looking at it yet. If you want to get this fixed faster, the best way is to send a PR (with send-pr) about the problem, and even better included a patch to update the manual page. --=20 Simon L. Nielsen FreeBSD Documentation Team --ZwgA9U+XZDXt4+m+ Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.3 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQE/S3/wh9pcDSc1mlERAp75AKC0z5zYg9/IWWKplpLvX/TUaVlRRACdFf+C aOexm4/SJgahZwa2GuWRVDo= =sUlF -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --ZwgA9U+XZDXt4+m+-- From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Aug 26 08:46:07 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C731816A4BF for ; Tue, 26 Aug 2003 08:46:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: from arthur.nitro.dk (port324.ds1-khk.adsl.cybercity.dk [212.242.113.79]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1F88143FCB for ; Tue, 26 Aug 2003 08:46:07 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from simon@arthur.nitro.dk) Received: by arthur.nitro.dk (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 6E9AE10BF8C; Tue, 26 Aug 2003 17:46:06 +0200 (CEST) Date: Tue, 26 Aug 2003 17:46:06 +0200 From: "Simon L. Nielsen" To: Reza Shahrabi Message-ID: <20030826154606.GE403@FreeBSD.org> References: <005001c36b8e$22a320b0$59071eac@Darya> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="YToU2i3Vx8H2dn7O" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <005001c36b8e$22a320b0$59071eac@Darya> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.4i cc: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: question X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 26 Aug 2003 15:46:07 -0000 --YToU2i3Vx8H2dn7O Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 2003.08.26 09:24:19 +0430, Reza Shahrabi wrote: > hi > I have a problem with FreeBSD Mail Server. > from few days ago in mail server this Message is prompted : > " Aug 26 8:35:55 molavi ( the name of this server ) qmail : 1061873351 . = 361023 alert : unable to append a bounce a message : HELP ! Sleeping ..... " > and form this days we are not receiving any mail . so i would like to say= me what should i do . > and what does it mean ?=20 This is the mailing list for the FreeBSD documentation only. You can try asking your question on the freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list. Other than that, I think you need to suply more information about the problem, since the above description is not enough to diagnose the problem. --=20 Simon L. Nielsen FreeBSD Documentation Team --YToU2i3Vx8H2dn7O Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.3 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQE/S4C9h9pcDSc1mlERAsKXAKCJp8fvVIh3aco7KcYAQiG7dq3dKQCdFMoC rjtKy1Kh+atUl4qPjmQsBYg= =EwJS -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --YToU2i3Vx8H2dn7O-- From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Aug 26 08:53:03 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7629D16A4BF; Tue, 26 Aug 2003 08:53:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: from milla.ask33.net (milla.ask33.net [217.197.166.60]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1FE7E43FE9; Tue, 26 Aug 2003 08:52:58 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nick@milla.ask33.net) Received: by milla.ask33.net (Postfix, from userid 1001) id CC5493ABB4F; Tue, 26 Aug 2003 17:54:17 +0200 (CEST) Date: Tue, 26 Aug 2003 17:54:17 +0200 From: Pawel Jakub Dawidek To: Tom Rhodes Message-ID: <20030826155417.GI47959@garage.freebsd.pl> References: <20030826082220.GG47959@garage.freebsd.pl> <20030826105621.31c83b95.trhodes@FreeBSD.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-md5; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="TOmSpbqtysumMR8M" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20030826105621.31c83b95.trhodes@FreeBSD.org> X-PGP-Key-URL: http://garage.freebsd.pl/jules.asc X-OS: FreeBSD 4.8-RELEASE-p3 i386 X-URL: http://garage.freebsd.pl User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.1i cc: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: bsd.kmod.mk and manual pages. X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 26 Aug 2003 15:53:03 -0000 --TOmSpbqtysumMR8M Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-2 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Tue, Aug 26, 2003 at 10:56:21AM -0400, Tom Rhodes wrote: +> Usually driver manual pages are added to section four, and then +> they are built with the Makefile from that location. +>=20 +> Or did I misinterpret your question? I want to create Makefile for kernel module: ---[ Makefile start ]--- KMOD=3D foo SRCS=3D foo.c MAN=3D foo.4 =2Einclude ---[ Makefile end ]--- As you can see, manual page is in the same directory, but bsd.kmod.mk ignores 'MAN' variable, so manual page isn't gziped on 'make' nor installed on 'make install'. For example bsd.prog.mk know how to handle 'MAN' variable. So my question is: Is there some clean way to prepare Makefile which will handle module with manual page? --=20 Pawel Jakub Dawidek pawel@dawidek.net UNIX Systems Programmer/Administrator http://garage.freebsd.pl Am I Evil? Yes, I Am! http://cerber.sourceforge.net --TOmSpbqtysumMR8M Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.7 (FreeBSD) iQCVAwUBP0uCqT/PhmMH/Mf1AQHEFAP9GO6kKx5/W/ehInv+YNAMeClTzigc908J 4EAKxjZRqGrqG8/UEdAUqVDAbAGBHjvD7inPVWffFkb1fNphQZb41l2lgDQkBjBA W7QmjklacluIj/RbGCwk43RtCyAYZhMIlwAg+SHz7XStsBEu5eWxt/mDfAhfXkEJ GRqLD0Ia50E= =06R0 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --TOmSpbqtysumMR8M-- From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Aug 26 09:02:04 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 90D1016A4BF; Tue, 26 Aug 2003 09:02:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: from arthur.nitro.dk (port324.ds1-khk.adsl.cybercity.dk [212.242.113.79]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D3D7143FD7; Tue, 26 Aug 2003 09:02:03 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from simon@arthur.nitro.dk) Received: by arthur.nitro.dk (Postfix, from userid 1000) id F3F3510BF8C; Tue, 26 Aug 2003 18:02:02 +0200 (CEST) Date: Tue, 26 Aug 2003 18:02:02 +0200 From: "Simon L. Nielsen" To: Pawel Jakub Dawidek Message-ID: <20030826160202.GF403@FreeBSD.org> References: <20030826082220.GG47959@garage.freebsd.pl> <20030826105621.31c83b95.trhodes@FreeBSD.org> <20030826155417.GI47959@garage.freebsd.pl> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="n+lFg1Zro7sl44OB" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20030826155417.GI47959@garage.freebsd.pl> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.4i cc: Tom Rhodes cc: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: bsd.kmod.mk and manual pages. X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 26 Aug 2003 16:02:04 -0000 --n+lFg1Zro7sl44OB Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 2003.08.26 17:54:17 +0200, Pawel Jakub Dawidek wrote: > On Tue, Aug 26, 2003 at 10:56:21AM -0400, Tom Rhodes wrote: > +> Usually driver manual pages are added to section four, and then > +> they are built with the Makefile from that location. > +>=20 > +> Or did I misinterpret your question? >=20 > I want to create Makefile for kernel module: >=20 > ---[ Makefile start ]--- > KMOD=3D foo > SRCS=3D foo.c > MAN=3D foo.4 >=20 > .include > ---[ Makefile end ]--- >=20 > As you can see, manual page is in the same directory, but bsd.kmod.mk > ignores 'MAN' variable, so manual page isn't gziped on 'make' nor > installed on 'make install'. >=20 > For example bsd.prog.mk know how to handle 'MAN' variable. >=20 > So my question is: Is there some clean way to prepare Makefile which will > handle module with manual page? I actually don't think so. From a quick check it does not appear that bsd.kmod.mk includes bsd.man.mk (which handles all the manual page related things). Normally in FreeBSD all the kernel manual pages are located under src/share/man/man?/ . I assume the reason you want to include the manual page with the module, is because it's a 3rd party module which are not being distriubted as part of FreeBSD? You might want to ask on -hackers, since this is more of a buildsystem problem, than documentation problem (and I don't think most of the buildsystem guys are on -doc). --=20 Simon L. Nielsen FreeBSD Documentation Team --n+lFg1Zro7sl44OB Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.3 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQE/S4R6h9pcDSc1mlERAoHLAKCKqsHZhAkRziVNrdU2Fzqc8iS+zACdFdsA p2lRcVA0y6YfAWiIcKs2Cmc= =RFXL -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --n+lFg1Zro7sl44OB-- From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Aug 26 09:02:26 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8B26616A4BF; Tue, 26 Aug 2003 09:02:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: from bessel.tekniikka.turkuamk.fi (bessel.tekniikka.turkuamk.fi [193.166.133.10]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F335143F85; Tue, 26 Aug 2003 09:02:22 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from eyurtese@bessel.tekniikka.turkuamk.fi) Received: from localhost (eyurtese@localhost) by bessel.tekniikka.turkuamk.fi (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id TAA26930; Tue, 26 Aug 2003 19:02:21 +0300 Date: Tue, 26 Aug 2003 19:02:21 +0300 (WET) From: Evren Yurtesen To: "Simon L. Nielsen" In-Reply-To: <20030826154240.GD403@FreeBSD.org> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII cc: freebsd-docs@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: ftpd man page is little bit wrong X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 26 Aug 2003 16:02:26 -0000 Isnt there a web interfac for this? send-pr? I remember such thing was existing but couldnt find? Evren On Tue, 26 Aug 2003, Simon L. Nielsen wrote: > On 2003.08.26 06:24:49 +0300, Evren Yurtesen wrote: > > I tried to use -u option of ftpd without any success for 2 hours! > > Then I thought lets see whats going on inside the sources... > > Voila, the -u option is overridden by login.conf > > > > /* May be overridden by login.conf */ > > (void) umask(defumask); > > > > Cant anybody put this into the man page of ftpd so that people will know > > why their -u option doesnt work? :) I was really mad at ftpd > > I have actually had this on my TODO list for some time, but I haven't > gotten around to looking at it yet. If you want to get this fixed > faster, the best way is to send a PR (with send-pr) about the problem, > and even better included a patch to update the manual page. > > -- > Simon L. Nielsen > FreeBSD Documentation Team > From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Aug 26 09:06:43 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 624B516A4BF for ; Tue, 26 Aug 2003 09:06:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail.ac-net.at (secure.ac-net.at [212.24.125.8]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7D90B43FDD for ; Tue, 26 Aug 2003 09:06:40 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from shammer@daemon.li) Received: from localhost (server.ac-net.at [127.0.0.1]) by mail.ac-net.at (AC-net Mailserver v1.3a) with ESMTP id DDEE93FFC for ; Tue, 26 Aug 2003 18:06:30 +0200 (CEST) Received: from daemon.li (dsl-156-45.utaonline.at [62.218.156.45]) by mail.ac-net.at (AC-net Mailserver v1.3a) with SMTP id 443363FFA for ; Tue, 26 Aug 2003 16:06:29 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 1674 invoked from network); 26 Aug 2003 16:08:59 -0000 Received: from localhost (HELO daemon.li) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 26 Aug 2003 16:08:59 -0000 Received: (from shammer@localhost) by daemon.li (8.12.6/8.12.7/Submit) id h7QG8v4h001672; Tue, 26 Aug 2003 18:08:57 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from shammer) Date: Tue, 26 Aug 2003 18:08:56 +0200 From: Josef El-Rayes To: Evren Yurtesen Message-ID: <20030826160856.GA1655@daemon.li> References: <20030826154240.GD403@FreeBSD.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i Reply-Path: j.el-rayes@daemon.li X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 4.8-STABLE X-Virus-Scanned: by AMaViS 0.3.12 with AC-networks extensions cc: freebsd-docs@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: ftpd man page is little bit wrong X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: j.el-rayes@daemon.li List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 26 Aug 2003 16:06:43 -0000 Evren Yurtesen wrote: > Isnt there a web interfac for this? send-pr? I remember such thing was > existing but couldnt find? there was a web interface which is currently disabled due to misuse of it. if you are running a freebsd maschine you can use send-pr or if not, send me the patch and i will file it for you. greets, josef -- www: http://www.daemon.li nic-hdl: JER1080312-NICAT BSD in AT: www.bsdcode.at "Make World - Not War!" From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Aug 26 09:32:24 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E0E9616A4BF for ; Tue, 26 Aug 2003 09:32:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: from bessel.tekniikka.turkuamk.fi (bessel.tekniikka.turkuamk.fi [193.166.133.10]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9985743FE0 for ; Tue, 26 Aug 2003 09:32:21 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from eyurtese@bessel.tekniikka.turkuamk.fi) Received: from localhost (eyurtese@localhost) by bessel.tekniikka.turkuamk.fi (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id TAA26834; Tue, 26 Aug 2003 19:32:18 +0300 Date: Tue, 26 Aug 2003 19:32:18 +0300 (WET) From: Evren Yurtesen To: Josef El-Rayes In-Reply-To: <20030826160856.GA1655@daemon.li> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: MULTIPART/MIXED; BOUNDARY="-1046051574-1399344125-1061915444=:24482" Content-ID: cc: freebsd-docs@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: ftpd man page is little bit wrong X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 26 Aug 2003 16:32:25 -0000 This message is in MIME format. The first part should be readable text, while the remaining parts are likely unreadable without MIME-aware tools. Send mail to mime@docserver.cac.washington.edu for more info. ---1046051574-1399344125-1061915444=:24482 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII Content-ID: I have freebsd machine but I find emailing you a lot easier. I am not sending prs everyday and I guess today is my lazy day :) I attach the patch although it is only 1 sentence added to man page. In the -u option, I added This option may be overridden by login.conf Which was half stolen from ftpd.c :) /* May be overridden by login.conf */ Evren On Tue, 26 Aug 2003, Josef El-Rayes wrote: > Evren Yurtesen wrote: > > Isnt there a web interfac for this? send-pr? I remember such thing was > > existing but couldnt find? > > there was a web interface which is currently disabled due to misuse of > it. if you are running a freebsd maschine you can use send-pr or if not, > send me the patch and i will file it for you. > > greets, josef > > -- > www: http://www.daemon.li > nic-hdl: JER1080312-NICAT > BSD in AT: www.bsdcode.at > "Make World - Not War!" > ---1046051574-1399344125-1061915444=:24482 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII; NAME="ftpd.8.patch" Content-Transfer-Encoding: BASE64 Content-ID: Content-Description: Content-Disposition: ATTACHMENT; FILENAME="ftpd.8.patch" LS0tIGZ0cGQuOC5vcmlnCVR1ZSBBdWcgMjYgMTk6MjQ6NTcgMjAwMw0KKysr IGZ0cGQuOAlUdWUgQXVnIDI2IDE5OjI2OjE0IDIwMDMNCkBAIC04OCw3ICs4 OCw3IEBADQogDQogICAgICAtCC11CHUgICAgICBUaGUgZGVmYXVsdCBmaWxl IGNyZWF0aW9uIG1vZGUgbWFzayBpcyBzZXQgdG8gXwh1XwhtXwhhXwhzXwhr LCB3aGljaCBpcw0KIAkgICAgIGV4cGVjdGVkIHRvIGJlIGFuIG9jdGFsIG51 bWVyaWMgdmFsdWUuICBSZWZlciB0byB1bWFzaygyKSBmb3INCi0JICAgICBk ZXRhaWxzLg0KKwkgICAgIGRldGFpbHMuIFRoaXMgb3B0aW9uIG1heSBiZSBv dmVycmlkZGVuIGJ5IGxvZ2luLmNvbmYNCiANCiAgICAgIC0ILVUIVSAgICAg IEluIHByZXZpb3VzIHZlcnNpb25zIG9mIGYIZnQIdHAIcGQIZCwgd2hlbiBh IHBhc3NpdmUgbW9kZSBjbGllbnQNCiAJICAgICByZXF1ZXN0ZWQgYSBkYXRh IGNvbm5lY3Rpb24gdG8gdGhlIHNlcnZlciwgdGhlIHNlcnZlciB3b3VsZCB1 c2UNCg== ---1046051574-1399344125-1061915444=:24482-- From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Aug 26 10:36:00 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 86E3116A4BF; Tue, 26 Aug 2003 10:36:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rwcrmhc13.comcast.net (rwcrmhc13.comcast.net [204.127.198.39]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9E5CD43F85; Tue, 26 Aug 2003 10:35:59 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from underway@comcast.net) Received: from localhost.localdomain (12-230-74-101.client.attbi.com[12.230.74.101](untrusted sender)) by attbi.com (rwcrmhc13) with ESMTP id <20030826173242015006pg4ae>; Tue, 26 Aug 2003 17:32:42 +0000 Received: from localhost.localdomain (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by localhost.localdomain (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h7QHXcRw011637; Tue, 26 Aug 2003 10:33:38 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from underway@comcast.net) Received: (from jojo@localhost) by localhost.localdomain (8.12.9/8.12.9/Submit) id h7QHXXQn011636; Tue, 26 Aug 2003 10:33:33 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from underway@comcast.net) To: "Simon L. Nielsen" References: <20030826075148.GA806@nosferatu.blackend.org> <20030826122255.GA403@FreeBSD.org> From: underway@comcast.net (Gary W. Swearingen) Date: Tue, 26 Aug 2003 10:33:32 -0700 In-Reply-To: <20030826122255.GA403@FreeBSD.org> (Simon L. Nielsen's message of "Tue, 26 Aug 2003 14:22:57 +0200") Message-ID: <507k50nx1v.k50@mail.comcast.net> User-Agent: Gnus/5.1002 (Gnus v5.10.2) XEmacs/21.4 (Portable Code, berkeley-unix) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii cc: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org cc: Marc Fonvieille Subject: Re: Another "annoying" trademark :) X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 26 Aug 2003 17:36:00 -0000 "Simon L. Nielsen" writes: > On 2003.08.26 09:51:48 +0200, Marc Fonvieille wrote: ... >> Maybe we can wait for the registration to be effective... > > That could take a very long time, so when somebody from XFree86 respond, > I plan to handle it along with all the other unregistered trademarks. ... I'm curious why unregistered and registered trademarks should be handled differently. IMO, they should be be handled the same, with some default treatment (eg, use "(TM)" or not) and some special treatment for owners who are known to desire it (not necessarily the treatment they desire), regardless of registration. It seems safest to assume that any (?) claims of trademark are valid claims and that you are dealing with a proprietary trademark which gives someone rights in the use of the trademark. I'm fairly sure that the owner can sue you (and even win) with or without registration, with the main difference being whether it's going to cost you a lot or a whole lot. There should be one difference in handling, according to the USPTO web site's intro material: It says that the circle-R symbol may not be used except with registered trademarks. (I'm not so sure about that. I've never seen any law against it or even against a false claim of copyright or non-registered trademark ownership.) The statute also has a footnote saying that there are other ways to mark a trademark (other than the circle-R and "Registered in U.S. Patent and Trademark Office" and "Reg. U.S. Pat. & Tm. Off.") to give notice that it is registered, but it refers to some old law that I couldn't find. AFAIK, "(TM)" and the small raised "TM" only imply a trademark claim, not registration. Anyone know of (semi?) official documents on the matter? From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Aug 26 10:46:14 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8263C16A4BF; Tue, 26 Aug 2003 10:46:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: from milla.ask33.net (milla.ask33.net [217.197.166.60]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A753E43FBD; Tue, 26 Aug 2003 10:46:13 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nick@milla.ask33.net) Received: by milla.ask33.net (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 5456C3ABB4F; Tue, 26 Aug 2003 19:47:34 +0200 (CEST) Date: Tue, 26 Aug 2003 19:47:34 +0200 From: Pawel Jakub Dawidek To: "Simon L. Nielsen" Message-ID: <20030826174734.GJ47959@garage.freebsd.pl> References: <20030826082220.GG47959@garage.freebsd.pl> <20030826105621.31c83b95.trhodes@FreeBSD.org> <20030826155417.GI47959@garage.freebsd.pl> <20030826160202.GF403@FreeBSD.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-md5; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="Epi5nlKhkk4Kf+ga" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20030826160202.GF403@FreeBSD.org> X-PGP-Key-URL: http://garage.freebsd.pl/jules.asc X-OS: FreeBSD 4.8-RELEASE-p3 i386 X-URL: http://garage.freebsd.pl User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.1i cc: Tom Rhodes cc: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: bsd.kmod.mk and manual pages. X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 26 Aug 2003 17:46:14 -0000 --Epi5nlKhkk4Kf+ga Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-2 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Tue, Aug 26, 2003 at 06:02:02PM +0200, Simon L. Nielsen wrote: +> Normally in FreeBSD all the kernel manual pages are located under +> src/share/man/man?/ . I assume the reason you want to include the +> manual page with the module, is because it's a 3rd party module which +> are not being distriubted as part of FreeBSD? Yes, but in base system are also modules that screams for this functionality:) Here is the list of Makefiles for modules that use variable 'NOMAN': /sys/modules/drm/mga/Makefile /sys/modules/drm/r128/Makefile /sys/modules/drm/radeon/Makefile /sys/modules/drm/tdfx/Makefile /sys/modules/netgraph/fec/Makefile /sys/modules/raidframe/Makefile /sys/modules/ubsa/Makefile /sys/modules/ucom/Makefile /sys/modules/udf/Makefile /sys/modules/ufm/Makefile /sys/modules/uftdi/Makefile /sys/modules/uplcom/Makefile /sys/modules/uvisor/Makefile /sys/modules/uvscom/Makefile /sys/modules/umct/Makefile And those use 'MAN4' variable: /sys/modules/netgraph/bluetooth/bluetooth/Makefile /sys/modules/netgraph/bluetooth/bt3c/Makefile /sys/modules/netgraph/bluetooth/h4/Makefile /sys/modules/netgraph/bluetooth/hci/Makefile /sys/modules/netgraph/bluetooth/l2cap/Makefile /sys/modules/netgraph/bluetooth/socket/Makefile /sys/modules/netgraph/bluetooth/ubt/Makefile /sys/modules/netgraph/bluetooth/ubtbcmfw/Makefile --=20 Pawel Jakub Dawidek pawel@dawidek.net UNIX Systems Programmer/Administrator http://garage.freebsd.pl Am I Evil? Yes, I Am! http://cerber.sourceforge.net --Epi5nlKhkk4Kf+ga Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.7 (FreeBSD) iQCVAwUBP0udNj/PhmMH/Mf1AQFlCgP8CvtMe0j0UV1sSN6YbRv9RI7DaylaCMR2 lMHnVKc4abYBQNoYvWlpYNmwyvGnH9/XexiiFMINHR497XDOZ/9NhViCaxbwmgwZ l6C7bgi/wMZoQs1VIC3ORdVMiyZYCMurMP4wvlYWi+ZJ5JXbkvKdjyifOMMh+zlI 8+9YOecjWWc= =Ws0B -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Epi5nlKhkk4Kf+ga-- From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Aug 26 14:20:12 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@hub.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AB4C216A4BF for ; Tue, 26 Aug 2003 14:20:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B69A543F93 for ; Tue, 26 Aug 2003 14:20:11 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (gnats@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h7QLKBUp052350 for ; Tue, 26 Aug 2003 14:20:11 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats@freefall.freebsd.org) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.12.9/8.12.9/Submit) id h7QLKB1P052349; Tue, 26 Aug 2003 14:20:11 -0700 (PDT) Resent-Date: Tue, 26 Aug 2003 14:20:11 -0700 (PDT) Resent-Message-Id: <200308262120.h7QLKB1P052349@freefall.freebsd.org> Resent-From: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.org (GNATS Filer) Resent-To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Resent-Reply-To: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.org, Josef El-Rayes Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AE04716A4BF for ; Tue, 26 Aug 2003 14:18:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail.ac-net.at (secure.ac-net.at [212.24.125.8]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EF79F43F3F for ; Tue, 26 Aug 2003 14:18:23 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from shammer@daemon.li) Received: from localhost (server.ac-net.at [127.0.0.1]) by mail.ac-net.at (AC-net Mailserver v1.3a) with ESMTP id DCD373FFD for ; Tue, 26 Aug 2003 23:18:11 +0200 (CEST) Received: from daemon.li (dsl-237-228.utaonline.at [212.152.237.228]) by mail.ac-net.at (AC-net Mailserver v1.3a) with SMTP id 153203FFA for ; Tue, 26 Aug 2003 21:18:10 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 2600 invoked from network); 26 Aug 2003 21:20:41 -0000 Received: from localhost (HELO daemon.li) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 26 Aug 2003 21:20:41 -0000 Received: (from root@localhost) by daemon.li (8.12.6/8.12.7/Submit) id h7QLKevr002598; Tue, 26 Aug 2003 23:20:40 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from shammer) Message-Id: <200308262120.h7QLKevr002598@daemon.li> Date: Tue, 26 Aug 2003 23:20:40 +0200 (CEST) From: Josef El-Rayes To: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.org X-Send-Pr-Version: 3.113 cc: eyurtese@tekniikka.turkuamk.fi Subject: docs/56017: [patch] ftpd(8): add hint to -u flag X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Josef El-Rayes List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 26 Aug 2003 21:20:12 -0000 >Number: 56017 >Category: docs >Synopsis: [patch] ftpd(8): add hint to -u flag >Confidential: no >Severity: non-critical >Priority: low >Responsible: freebsd-doc >State: open >Quarter: >Keywords: >Date-Required: >Class: update >Submitter-Id: current-users >Arrival-Date: Tue Aug 26 14:20:10 PDT 2003 >Closed-Date: >Last-Modified: >Originator: Josef El-Rayes >Release: FreeBSD 4.8-STABLE i386 >Organization: >Environment: System: FreeBSD daemon.li 4.8-STABLE FreeBSD 4.8-STABLE #8: Tue Jul 22 18:16:23 CEST 2003 root@daemon.li:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/CUSTOM i386 >Description: /usr/src/libexec/ftpd/ftpd.8: this patch adds a hint to the -u flag the request of this pr comes from evren yurtesen, i did the patch against the manual page source file and filed it for him due to his request. this is my first manual pages patch, i hope it does not break anything. >How-To-Repeat: >Fix: --- ftpd.8.diff begins here --- --- ftpd.8.orig Tue Aug 26 23:08:19 2003 +++ ftpd.8 Tue Aug 26 23:14:48 2003 @@ -192,7 +192,7 @@ which is expected to be an octal numeric value. Refer to .Xr umask 2 -for details. +for details. This option may be overridden by login.conf. .It Fl U In previous versions of .Nm , --- ftpd.8.diff ends here --- >Release-Note: >Audit-Trail: >Unformatted: From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Aug 26 14:46:53 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 27B6616A4D8; Tue, 26 Aug 2003 14:46:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: from odin.ac.hmc.edu (Odin.AC.HMC.Edu [134.173.32.75]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6320C43FCB; Tue, 26 Aug 2003 14:46:50 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from brdavis@odin.ac.hmc.edu) Received: from odin.ac.hmc.edu (IDENT:brdavis@localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by odin.ac.hmc.edu (8.12.9/8.12.3) with ESMTP id h7QLkj7c019613; Tue, 26 Aug 2003 14:46:45 -0700 Received: (from brdavis@localhost) by odin.ac.hmc.edu (8.12.9/8.12.3/Submit) id h7QLkj4A019612; Tue, 26 Aug 2003 14:46:45 -0700 Date: Tue, 26 Aug 2003 14:46:45 -0700 From: Brooks Davis To: "Gary W. Swearingen" Message-ID: <20030826214645.GD3101@Odin.AC.HMC.Edu> References: <20030826075148.GA806@nosferatu.blackend.org> <20030826122255.GA403@FreeBSD.org> <507k50nx1v.k50@mail.comcast.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="JwB53PgKC5A7+0Ej" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <507k50nx1v.k50@mail.comcast.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.4i X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-milter (http://amavis.org/) on odin.ac.hmc.edu cc: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org cc: "Simon L. Nielsen" Subject: Re: Another "annoying" trademark :) X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 26 Aug 2003 21:46:53 -0000 --JwB53PgKC5A7+0Ej Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Tue, Aug 26, 2003 at 10:33:32AM -0700, Gary W. Swearingen wrote: > The statute also has a footnote saying that there are other ways to > mark a trademark (other than the circle-R and "Registered in > U.S. Patent and Trademark Office" and "Reg. U.S. Pat. & Tm. Off.") to > give notice that it is registered, but it refers to some old law that > I couldn't find. >=20 > AFAIK, "(TM)" and the small raised "TM" only imply a trademark claim, > not registration. Anyone know of (semi?) official documents on the > matter? On another project I've been associated with, a couple trademarks were registered. Once they started the process, the lawyers wanted them to always use the trademarked terms and always mark them with (tm) symbols. They also had to change to using the circle-R form fairly quickly. As I understood it, they didn't need to worry much about people using the wrong form as long as they weren't associated with the project. -- Brooks --=20 Any statement of the form "X is the one, true Y" is FALSE. PGP fingerprint 655D 519C 26A7 82E7 2529 9BF0 5D8E 8BE9 F238 1AD4 --JwB53PgKC5A7+0Ej Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE/S9VEXY6L6fI4GtQRAqkZAKDVHvu4kzD8AMfmNdklgnNZS6X1+ACfbNti Y55T4W2oGJkGo/zftm/VTcs= =ysK+ -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --JwB53PgKC5A7+0Ej-- From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Aug 26 14:53:37 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6DBC616A4BF; Tue, 26 Aug 2003 14:53:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: from arthur.nitro.dk (port324.ds1-khk.adsl.cybercity.dk [212.242.113.79]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DA7D443FDD; Tue, 26 Aug 2003 14:53:33 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from simon@arthur.nitro.dk) Received: by arthur.nitro.dk (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 45E9010BF8C; Tue, 26 Aug 2003 23:53:32 +0200 (CEST) Date: Tue, 26 Aug 2003 23:53:32 +0200 From: "Simon L. Nielsen" To: "Gary W. Swearingen" Message-ID: <20030826215331.GA2363@FreeBSD.org> References: <20030826075148.GA806@nosferatu.blackend.org> <20030826122255.GA403@FreeBSD.org> <507k50nx1v.k50@mail.comcast.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="2oS5YaxWCcQjTEyO" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <507k50nx1v.k50@mail.comcast.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.4i cc: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org cc: Marc Fonvieille Subject: Re: Another "annoying" trademark :) X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 26 Aug 2003 21:53:37 -0000 --2oS5YaxWCcQjTEyO Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 2003.08.26 10:33:32 -0700, Gary W. Swearingen wrote: > "Simon L. Nielsen" writes: >=20 > > On 2003.08.26 09:51:48 +0200, Marc Fonvieille wrote: > ... > >> Maybe we can wait for the registration to be effective... > > > > That could take a very long time, so when somebody from XFree86 respond, > > I plan to handle it along with all the other unregistered trademarks. > ... >=20 > I'm curious why unregistered and registered trademarks should be > handled differently. IMO, they should be be handled the same, with > some default treatment (eg, use "(TM)" or not) and some special > treatment for owners who are known to desire it (not necessarily the > treatment they desire), regardless of registration. Yes exactly. In most situations there are no difference with regards to registered and unregistered trademarks. I guess that I should have been more clear. The reason that I wrote that it should be handled the same as other unregistered trademarks, was exactly that it should be used with proper trademark symbol and trademark attributution, even when it's not registed. > It seems safest to assume that any (?) claims of trademark are valid > claims and that you are dealing with a proprietary trademark which > gives someone rights in the use of the trademark. Yes I have also been working under that asumption, and then checking with the USPTO trademark database sometimes. > I'm fairly sure > that the owner can sue you (and even win) with or without > registration, with the main difference being whether it's going to > cost you a lot or a whole lot. As I understand it when a trademark is registered the main differnce is that any claim that others are violating the trademark is simpler, since you don't have to prove that you have a right to the trademark, since that has already been done to the trademark office (USPTO in the United States). > There should be one difference in handling, according to the USPTO web > site's intro material: It says that the circle-R symbol may not be > used except with registered trademarks. =20 >=20 > (I'm not so sure about that. I've never seen any law against it or > even against a false claim of copyright or non-registered trademark > ownership.) Yes, you are only allowed to use (r) if the trademark is really registed, though I'm not really sure who whould come after you if you did misuse it. > The statute also has a footnote saying that there are other ways to > mark a trademark (other than the circle-R and "Registered in > U.S. Patent and Trademark Office" and "Reg. U.S. Pat. & Tm. Off.") to > give notice that it is registered, but it refers to some old law that > I couldn't find. OK, I actually havent seen anything about that. All the trademark policies from trademark holderes I have seen just say to use the apropriate (r)/(tm). > AFAIK, "(TM)" and the small raised "TM" only imply a trademark claim, > not registration. Anyone know of (semi?) official documents on the > matter? Yes (tm) means that the company in question claim a trademark, and they either haven't registed it, or is in the process of registering it. A odd case is Sun which asks that (tm) be used all the their trademarks, also their registered trademarks. Disclaimer: I am not lawyer, what I know about trademarks I have gathered from various websites, so I might be wrong. Note: When I write (tm) or (r) I do mean the trademark symbols generated by ® and ™, it's just a bit hard to write in plain text). --=20 Simon L. Nielsen FreeBSD Documentation Team --2oS5YaxWCcQjTEyO Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.3 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQE/S9bbh9pcDSc1mlERAkZXAJwJSRZgbgXKZ7niPRvCNrpLG4anOACfVcGO 2PrGRGKEN195f3tmN9X/XaY= =OE2W -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --2oS5YaxWCcQjTEyO-- From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Aug 26 15:19:29 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 56DB316A4D6 for ; Tue, 26 Aug 2003 15:19:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: from darkstar.egenieria.com (cable200-75-85-181.epm.net.co [200.75.85.181]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1E2C843FA3 for ; Tue, 26 Aug 2003 15:19:26 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gsobalvarro@e-genieria.com) Received: (from root@localhost) by darkstar.egenieria.com (8.12.8/8.12.8) id h7QMNZgw000837 for freebsd-doc@freebsd.org; Tue, 26 Aug 2003 17:23:35 -0500 (COT) (envelope-from gsobalvarro@e-genieria.com) Received: from [200.75.85.181] (cable200-75-85-181.epm.net.co [200.75.85.181]) by darkstar.egenieria.com (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id h7QMNWNg000790 for ; Tue, 26 Aug 2003 17:23:32 -0500 (COT) (envelope-from gsobalvarro@e-genieria.com) From: Guillermo Sobalvarro To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Organization: Message-Id: <1061936611.622.2.camel@darkstar.egenieria.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Ximian Evolution 1.2.2 Date: 26 Aug 2003 17:23:32 -0500 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-scanner: e-scan de E-geniería (e-scan@e-genieria.com) Subject: Translations X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 26 Aug 2003 22:19:29 -0000 I would like to contribute some of my spre time to translating documentation to Spanish. Can't promise a whole lot but would like to give something back since I've been a FreeBSD user for many years. Please let me know. Regards, Guillermo Sobalvarro E-geniería __________________________________________________________ Correo certificado libre de viurs por e-scan de E-genieria Informes: e-scan@e-genieria.com From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Aug 26 15:21:15 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A0F9916A4C1; Tue, 26 Aug 2003 15:21:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: from arthur.nitro.dk (port324.ds1-khk.adsl.cybercity.dk [212.242.113.79]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 83A5943FF3; Tue, 26 Aug 2003 15:21:03 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from simon@arthur.nitro.dk) Received: by arthur.nitro.dk (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 4F6ED10BF8C; Wed, 27 Aug 2003 00:21:02 +0200 (CEST) Date: Wed, 27 Aug 2003 00:21:02 +0200 From: "Simon L. Nielsen" To: Pawel Jakub Dawidek Message-ID: <20030826222101.GD2363@FreeBSD.org> References: <20030826082220.GG47959@garage.freebsd.pl> <20030826105621.31c83b95.trhodes@FreeBSD.org> <20030826155417.GI47959@garage.freebsd.pl> <20030826160202.GF403@FreeBSD.org> <20030826174734.GJ47959@garage.freebsd.pl> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="jL2BoiuKMElzg3CS" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20030826174734.GJ47959@garage.freebsd.pl> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.4i cc: Tom Rhodes cc: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: bsd.kmod.mk and manual pages. X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 26 Aug 2003 22:21:15 -0000 --jL2BoiuKMElzg3CS Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 2003.08.26 19:47:34 +0200, Pawel Jakub Dawidek wrote: > On Tue, Aug 26, 2003 at 06:02:02PM +0200, Simon L. Nielsen wrote: > +> Normally in FreeBSD all the kernel manual pages are located under > +> src/share/man/man?/ . I assume the reason you want to include the > +> manual page with the module, is because it's a 3rd party module which > +> are not being distriubted as part of FreeBSD? >=20 > Yes, but in base system are also modules that screams for this > functionality:) > Here is the list of Makefiles for modules that use variable 'NOMAN': [CUT] Well, I have a feeling that it's not that lack of build intrastructure that keeps peple from writing manual pages for those devices. In any case that shouldn't stop people :-). > And those use 'MAN4' variable: >=20 > /sys/modules/netgraph/bluetooth/bluetooth/Makefile > /sys/modules/netgraph/bluetooth/bt3c/Makefile > /sys/modules/netgraph/bluetooth/h4/Makefile > /sys/modules/netgraph/bluetooth/hci/Makefile > /sys/modules/netgraph/bluetooth/l2cap/Makefile > /sys/modules/netgraph/bluetooth/socket/Makefile > /sys/modules/netgraph/bluetooth/ubt/Makefile > /sys/modules/netgraph/bluetooth/ubtbcmfw/Makefile Hmm... Bluetooth was developed outside the FreeBSD tree, so it might just be there because the author didn't now how to handle the manual pages... I just did a quick check and I couldn't find the actual files for the manual pages anywhere. I think an important reason that the manual pages aren't in the sys/ part of the tree, is that they need to be build by the buildworld stage, not buildkernel. If the manual pages were located under sys/ it would give problems determining when to build/install them. Not that any of this helps you :-). You could look into how some of the third party kernel modules that are in ports are handled. --=20 Simon L. Nielsen FreeBSD Documentation Team --jL2BoiuKMElzg3CS Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.3 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQE/S91Nh9pcDSc1mlERAhrcAJ46X+cw6UO9g5za8O1GhwGD0yZGUACfVp/n dJZm6y7ScxI8E2fyoSbrHZI= =TvDl -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --jL2BoiuKMElzg3CS-- From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Aug 26 15:30:14 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 41BDA16A4BF; Tue, 26 Aug 2003 15:30:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: from shrike.submonkey.net (pc3-cdif2-5-cust222.cdif.cable.ntl.com [81.101.152.222]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3A0E043FA3; Tue, 26 Aug 2003 15:30:11 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from setantae@submonkey.net) Received: from setantae by shrike.submonkey.net with local (Exim 4.20) id 19rmKG-000I3D-Vt; Tue, 26 Aug 2003 23:30:08 +0100 Date: Tue, 26 Aug 2003 23:30:08 +0100 From: Ceri Davies To: Guillermo Sobalvarro Message-ID: <20030826223008.GA65387@submonkey.net> Mail-Followup-To: Ceri Davies , Guillermo Sobalvarro , freebsd-doc@freebsd.org, jesusr@FreeBSD.org References: <1061936611.622.2.camel@darkstar.egenieria.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="qDbXVdCdHGoSgWSk" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <1061936611.622.2.camel@darkstar.egenieria.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.4i Sender: Ceri Davies cc: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org cc: jesusr@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: Translations X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 26 Aug 2003 22:30:14 -0000 --qDbXVdCdHGoSgWSk Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Tue, Aug 26, 2003 at 05:23:32PM -0500, Guillermo Sobalvarro wrote: > I would like to contribute some of my spre time to translating > documentation to Spanish. Can't promise a whole lot but would like to > give something back since I've been a FreeBSD user for many years.=20 > Please let me know. Hi, I think the main coordinator for the Spanish translation efforts is jesusr@FreeBSD.org; you should drop him a line and ask him where he needs help. Thanks, Ceri --=20 User: DO YOU ACCEPT JESUS CHRIST AS YOUR PERSONAL LORD AND SAVIOR? 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From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Aug 26 16:20:21 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@hub.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D47F116A4BF for ; Tue, 26 Aug 2003 16:20:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DCD4F43FD7 for ; Tue, 26 Aug 2003 16:20:20 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (gnats@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h7QNKKUp063340 for ; Tue, 26 Aug 2003 16:20:20 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats@freefall.freebsd.org) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.12.9/8.12.9/Submit) id h7QNKKuO063339; Tue, 26 Aug 2003 16:20:20 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 26 Aug 2003 16:20:20 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <200308262320.h7QNKKuO063339@freefall.freebsd.org> To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org From: Ceri Davies Subject: Re: docs/56017: [patch] ftpd(8): add hint to -u flag X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Ceri Davies List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 26 Aug 2003 23:20:22 -0000 The following reply was made to PR docs/56017; it has been noted by GNATS. From: Ceri Davies To: Josef El-Rayes Cc: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: docs/56017: [patch] ftpd(8): add hint to -u flag Date: Wed, 27 Aug 2003 00:14:10 +0100 On Tue, Aug 26, 2003 at 11:20:40PM +0200, Josef El-Rayes wrote: Hi Josef, Since this is your first mdoc(7) patch, here's the hint: > --- ftpd.8.diff begins here --- > --- ftpd.8.orig Tue Aug 26 23:08:19 2003 > +++ ftpd.8 Tue Aug 26 23:14:48 2003 > @@ -192,7 +192,7 @@ > which is expected to be an octal numeric value. > Refer to > .Xr umask 2 > -for details. > +for details. This option may be overridden by login.conf. New sentences should begin on a newline, i.e. the patch should become for details. +This option may be overridden by login.conf. Cheers, Ceri -- User: DO YOU ACCEPT JESUS CHRIST AS YOUR PERSONAL LORD AND SAVIOR? Iniaes: Sure, I can accept all forms of payment. -- www.chatterboxchallenge.com From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Aug 26 16:30:20 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@hub.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F16D016A4BF for ; Tue, 26 Aug 2003 16:30:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 96DB843FE1 for ; Tue, 26 Aug 2003 16:30:20 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (gnats@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h7QNUKUp063574 for ; Tue, 26 Aug 2003 16:30:20 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats@freefall.freebsd.org) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.12.9/8.12.9/Submit) id h7QNUKHb063573; Tue, 26 Aug 2003 16:30:20 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 26 Aug 2003 16:30:20 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <200308262330.h7QNUKHb063573@freefall.freebsd.org> To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org From: Ceri Davies Subject: Re: docs/56017: [patch] ftpd(8): add hint to -u flag X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Ceri Davies List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 26 Aug 2003 23:30:21 -0000 The following reply was made to PR docs/56017; it has been noted by GNATS. From: Ceri Davies To: FreeBSD Gnats Submit Cc: Subject: Re: docs/56017: [patch] ftpd(8): add hint to -u flag Date: Wed, 27 Aug 2003 00:25:41 +0100 On Tue, Aug 26, 2003 at 04:20:20PM -0700, Ceri Davies wrote: > > New sentences should begin on a newline, i.e. the patch should become > > for details. > +This option may be overridden by login.conf. I tell a lie; it should actually become: --- /usr/src/libexec/ftpd/ftpd.8 Tue Feb 11 14:28:28 2003 +++ /tmp/a Wed Aug 27 00:23:57 2003 @@ -193,6 +193,8 @@ Refer to .Xr umask 2 for details. +This option may be overridden by +.Xr login.conf 5 . .It Fl U In previous versions of .Nm , Ceri -- User: DO YOU ACCEPT JESUS CHRIST AS YOUR PERSONAL LORD AND SAVIOR? Iniaes: Sure, I can accept all forms of payment. -- www.chatterboxchallenge.com From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Aug 26 17:59:09 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3E6C116A4BF for ; Tue, 26 Aug 2003 17:59:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: from list.cobalt.com (list.cobalt.com [12.40.201.23]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AB8C043F3F for ; Tue, 26 Aug 2003 17:59:08 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mail@list.cobalt.com) Received: (from mail@localhost) by list.cobalt.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id RAA07253; Tue, 26 Aug 2003 17:59:08 -0700 Date: Tue, 26 Aug 2003 17:59:08 -0700 Message-Id: <200308270059.RAA07253@list.cobalt.com> To: doc@FreeBSD.org References: <200308270058.RAA07199@list.cobalt.com> In-Reply-To: <200308270058.RAA07199@list.cobalt.com> Precedence: junk X-Loop: html-bounce From: mailman-owner@list.cobalt.com Subject: Re: Details X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 27 Aug 2003 00:59:09 -0000 Hello, I'm sorry, your e-mail to the Cobalt Mailing List was bounced because you either - Included an attachment - Sent HTML format mail - Send MIME format mail Please send only plain text to the Cobalt mailing lists. 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From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Aug 26 18:10:06 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@hub.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E4E7416A4BF for ; Tue, 26 Aug 2003 18:10:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4D17B43FEA for ; Tue, 26 Aug 2003 18:10:03 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (gnats@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h7R1A3Up073043 for ; Tue, 26 Aug 2003 18:10:03 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats@freefall.freebsd.org) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.12.9/8.12.9/Submit) id h7R1A3DZ073042; Tue, 26 Aug 2003 18:10:03 -0700 (PDT) Resent-Date: Tue, 26 Aug 2003 18:10:03 -0700 (PDT) Resent-Message-Id: <200308270110.h7R1A3DZ073042@freefall.freebsd.org> Resent-From: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.org (GNATS Filer) Resent-To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Resent-Reply-To: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.org, Glen Gibb Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 883A816A4BF for ; Tue, 26 Aug 2003 18:07:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: from genesis.ridley.unimelb.edu.au (genesis.ridley.unimelb.edu.au [128.250.2.82]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1562343FCB for ; Tue, 26 Aug 2003 18:07:25 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from grg@ridley.unimelb.edu.au) Received: (from root@localhost) by genesis.ridley.unimelb.edu.au (8.12.3p2/8.11.6) id h7R17Ng4047527 for freebsd-gnats-submit@freebsd.org; Wed, 27 Aug 2003 11:07:23 +1000 (EST) (envelope-from grg@genesis.ridley.unimelb.edu.au) Received: from genesis.ridley.unimelb.edu.au (localhost [127.0.0.1]) h7R17Ln3047515 for ; Wed, 27 Aug 2003 11:07:21 +1000 (EST) (envelope-from grg@genesis.ridley.unimelb.edu.au) Received: (from root@localhost)h7R17L23047514; Wed, 27 Aug 2003 11:07:21 +1000 (EST) (envelope-from grg) Message-Id: <200308270107.h7R17L23047514@genesis.ridley.unimelb.edu.au> Date: Wed, 27 Aug 2003 11:07:21 +1000 (EST) From: Glen Gibb To: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.org X-Send-Pr-Version: 3.113 Subject: docs/56021: Documentation incorrect for mac in ipfw2 X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 27 Aug 2003 01:10:06 -0000 >Number: 56021 >Category: docs >Synopsis: Documentation incorrect for mac in ipfw2 >Confidential: no >Severity: non-critical >Priority: low >Responsible: freebsd-doc >State: open >Quarter: >Keywords: >Date-Required: >Class: doc-bug >Submitter-Id: current-users >Arrival-Date: Tue Aug 26 18:10:02 PDT 2003 >Closed-Date: >Last-Modified: >Originator: Glen Gibb >Release: FreeBSD 5.1-CURRENT i386 >Organization: Ridley College >Environment: System: FreeBSD genesis.ridley.unimelb.edu.au 5.1-CURRENT FreeBSD 5.1-CURRENT #3: Wed Aug 27 00:08:46 EST 2003 grg@leviticus.ridley.unimelb.edu.au:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENESIS i386 >Description: The man page for ipfw (IPFW2) is incomplete/misleading in regards to the "mac" option in the RULE OPTIONS section. The man page states that the address can be "optionally followed by a mask indicating how many bits are significant, as in MAC 10:20:30:40:50:60/33 any". This IS correct but it does not mention the second method of specifying a bit mask, that is by following the address with an ampersand (&) followed by the bitmask whcich is specified using the same format as the address. For example, if we wanted to match any mac address that ended with 60, we could use the following mask: MAC 00:00:00:00:50:60&00:00:00:00:00:ff >How-To-Repeat: man ipfw :) >Fix: Suggested change to the documentation: "Match packets with a given dst-mac and src-mac addresses, speci- fied as the any keyword (matching any MAC address), or six groups of hex digits separated by colons, and optionally followed by a mask indicating the significant bits. The mask may be specified using either of the following methods: i) append to the address a slash (/) followed by the number of bits that are significant. For example, an address in which the first 33 bits are significant could be specified as: MAC 10:20:30:40:50:60/33 any ii) append to the address an ampersand (&) followed by a bitmask specified as six groupsof hex digits separated by colons. For example, an address in which the last 16 bits are significant could be specified as: MAC 10:20:30:40:50:60&00:00:00:00:00:ff any Note that the ampersand character has special meaning in most shells and must generally be escaped. Note that the order of MAC addresses (destination first, source second) is the same as on the wire, but the opposite of the one used for IP addresses." >Release-Note: >Audit-Trail: >Unformatted: From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Aug 27 03:11:11 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0CB7D16A4C0; Wed, 27 Aug 2003 03:11:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: from camel.jerocu.net (camel.jerocu.net [213.129.160.132]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A6B8743FE3; Wed, 27 Aug 2003 03:11:08 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jesusr@voztele.com) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by camel.jerocu.net (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h7RA9GcP041503; Wed, 27 Aug 2003 12:09:17 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from jesusr@voztele.com) Date: Wed, 27 Aug 2003 12:09:16 +0200 (CEST) From: Jesus Rodriguez X-X-Sender: jesusr@camel To: Ceri Davies In-Reply-To: <20030826223008.GA65387@submonkey.net> Message-ID: <20030827120535.X41429@camel> References: <1061936611.622.2.camel@darkstar.egenieria.com> <20030826223008.GA65387@submonkey.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII cc: Guillermo Sobalvarro cc: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: Translations X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 27 Aug 2003 10:11:11 -0000 On Tue, 26 Aug 2003, Ceri Davies wrote: Hello Ceri and Guillermo, > On Tue, Aug 26, 2003 at 05:23:32PM -0500, Guillermo Sobalvarro wrote: > > I would like to contribute some of my spre time to translating > > documentation to Spanish. Can't promise a whole lot but would like to > > give something back since I've been a FreeBSD user for many years. > > Please let me know. > > Hi, > > I think the main coordinator for the Spanish translation efforts is > jesusr@FreeBSD.org; you should drop him a line and ask him where he > needs help. Guillermo, please, subscribe to doc@es.freebsd.org at http://listas.es.freebsd.org and contact me on that list. Thanks!. Saludos JesusR. ------------------------------- Jesus Rodriguez VozTelecom Sistemas, S.L. jesusr@voztele.com http://www.voztele.com Tel. 902360305 ------------------------------- From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Aug 27 07:06:14 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@hub.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5ACFF16A4F9; Wed, 27 Aug 2003 07:06:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2858643FA3; Wed, 27 Aug 2003 07:06:13 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tom@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (tom@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h7RE6DUp081493; Wed, 27 Aug 2003 07:06:13 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tom@freefall.freebsd.org) Received: (from tom@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.12.9/8.12.9/Submit) id h7RE6DOR081489; Wed, 27 Aug 2003 07:06:13 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 27 Aug 2003 07:06:13 -0700 (PDT) From: Tom Hukins Message-Id: <200308271406.h7RE6DOR081489@freefall.freebsd.org> To: tom@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org, tom@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: docs/55391: plist generation instructions incorrect X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 27 Aug 2003 14:06:14 -0000 Synopsis: plist generation instructions incorrect Responsible-Changed-From-To: freebsd-doc->tom Responsible-Changed-By: tom Responsible-Changed-When: Wed Aug 27 07:05:51 PDT 2003 Responsible-Changed-Why: I'll take this http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=55391 From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Aug 27 09:30:15 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 02A6C16A4BF; Wed, 27 Aug 2003 09:30:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rwcrmhc11.comcast.net (rwcrmhc11.comcast.net [204.127.198.35]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D5C6343FD7; Wed, 27 Aug 2003 09:30:11 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from underway@comcast.net) Received: from localhost.localdomain (12-230-74-101.client.attbi.com[12.230.74.101](untrusted sender)) by attbi.com (rwcrmhc11) with ESMTP id <20030827162241013006itrde>; Wed, 27 Aug 2003 16:22:41 +0000 Received: from localhost.localdomain (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by localhost.localdomain (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h7RGNw4d018439; Wed, 27 Aug 2003 09:23:58 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from underway@comcast.net) Received: (from jojo@localhost) by localhost.localdomain (8.12.9/8.12.9/Submit) id h7RGNqC5018438; Wed, 27 Aug 2003 09:23:52 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from underway@comcast.net) To: Brooks Davis References: <20030826075148.GA806@nosferatu.blackend.org> <20030826122255.GA403@FreeBSD.org> <507k50nx1v.k50@mail.comcast.net> <20030826214645.GD3101@Odin.AC.HMC.Edu> From: underway@comcast.net (Gary W. Swearingen) Date: Wed, 27 Aug 2003 09:23:52 -0700 In-Reply-To: <20030826214645.GD3101@Odin.AC.HMC.Edu> (Brooks Davis's message of "Tue, 26 Aug 2003 14:46:45 -0700") Message-ID: User-Agent: Gnus/5.1002 (Gnus v5.10.2) XEmacs/21.4 (Portable Code, berkeley-unix) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii cc: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org cc: "Simon L. Nielsen" Subject: Re: Another "annoying" trademark :) X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 27 Aug 2003 16:30:15 -0000 Brooks Davis writes: > On another project I've been associated with, a couple trademarks were > registered. Once they started the process, the lawyers wanted them to > always use the trademarked terms and always mark them with (tm) symbols. > They also had to change to using the circle-R form fairly quickly. As I > understood it, they didn't need to worry much about people using the > wrong form as long as they weren't associated with the project. I also am not a lawyer and this is just lay opinion, and not advice. A trademark owner uses (TM) and (R) symbols (or words also suggested in the statutes) to let people know that someone is claiming ownership of the trademark. They should also make an explicit claim of ownership using their name. Both discourage misuse and can help out in a law suit, even when people would be expected to know that someone owns the trademark such as when it is well-known or has been registered. But by the same theory, if to less effect, a trademark owner should prohibit (to the extent allowed) the use of his trademark by others without a similar marking nor even without naming the owner. So that many companies spend a good deal of effort getting people to use "Jerco(TM) is a trademark or registered trademark of Jercorp". (I've also read rumors that trademarks can lose their trademark status if they become too widely used otherwise, but I'm sure that's very rare and an overblown reason for enforcing trademark markings, and usually impossible to prevent anyway because most use is "fair use".) But we all know that most companies are fairly loose about all of this, especially when it would require hassling potential customers about it. (I know that I've had very bad feelings toward Disney(R) starting as a young boy when my brother was told he couldn't put a Disney(R) image on his boat, and hearing of their nastiness ever since. I won't shop in a Disney(R) store until it's the last one.) Most companies seem to be satisfied with the hilariously-redundant statement something like "All marks are owned by thier owners.", but it's probably good self-defense on the part of users to include a "(TM)" and naming of the owner, when practical. I'll make this even longer by noting that at least one person who thought he was running a non-commercial website, was determined by a court to be running a commercial website solely (IIRC) because it was deemed to be conducting commercial advertising, and regardless of the fact that the site was a .org run by one guy who funded the site out of his own pocket except for the few ad dollars that dribbled in. Because it was deemed commercial, he lost important fair use rights which restricted his ability to use other's IP. (IIRC, people were pasting news articles into his discussion forum messages. Some of you probably remember more about the case than I do.) WWW.FreeBSD.org seems to be doing a bit of advertising, but I haven't thought through the consequences of it being considered a commercial activity. From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Aug 27 10:30:21 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@hub.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7F25216A4BF for ; Wed, 27 Aug 2003 10:30:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B5B7E43F3F for ; Wed, 27 Aug 2003 10:30:19 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (gnats@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h7RHUJUp099103 for ; Wed, 27 Aug 2003 10:30:19 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats@freefall.freebsd.org) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.12.9/8.12.9/Submit) id h7RHUJUC099102; Wed, 27 Aug 2003 10:30:19 -0700 (PDT) Resent-Date: Wed, 27 Aug 2003 10:30:19 -0700 (PDT) Resent-Message-Id: <200308271730.h7RHUJUC099102@freefall.freebsd.org> Resent-From: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.org (GNATS Filer) Resent-To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Resent-Reply-To: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.org, Felix Opatz Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 19CB116A4C0 for ; Wed, 27 Aug 2003 10:29:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: from moutng.kundenserver.de (moutng.kundenserver.de [212.227.126.184]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DC45243FA3 for ; Wed, 27 Aug 2003 10:29:34 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from felix@zotteljedi.de) Received: from [212.227.126.155] (helo=mrelayng.kundenserver.de) by moutng.kundenserver.de with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1) id 19s46w-0000JE-00 for FreeBSD-gnats-submit@freebsd.org; Wed, 27 Aug 2003 19:29:34 +0200 Received: from [80.128.199.205] (helo=grishnakh.zotteljedi.de) by mrelayng.kundenserver.de with asmtp (Exim 3.35 #1) id 19s46w-0000cs-00 for FreeBSD-gnats-submit@freebsd.org; Wed, 27 Aug 2003 19:29:34 +0200 Received: by grishnakh.zotteljedi.de (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 7D427A2BE; Mon, 25 Aug 2003 18:25:38 +0200 (CEST) Message-Id: <20030825162538.7D427A2BE@grishnakh.zotteljedi.de> Date: Mon, 25 Aug 2003 18:25:38 +0200 (CEST) From: Felix Opatz To: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.org X-Send-Pr-Version: 3.113 Subject: docs/56044: missing information in manpage for accept(2) X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Felix Opatz List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 27 Aug 2003 17:30:21 -0000 >Number: 56044 >Category: docs >Synopsis: missing information in manpage for accept(2) >Confidential: no >Severity: non-critical >Priority: low >Responsible: freebsd-doc >State: open >Quarter: >Keywords: >Date-Required: >Class: doc-bug >Submitter-Id: current-users >Arrival-Date: Wed Aug 27 10:30:19 PDT 2003 >Closed-Date: >Last-Modified: >Originator: Felix Opatz >Release: FreeBSD 4.7-RELEASE i386 >Organization: >Environment: System: FreeBSD grishnakh.zotteljedi.de 4.7-RELEASE FreeBSD 4.7-RELEASE #2: Sat May 3 14:55:24 CEST 2003 felix@grishnakh.zotteljedi.de:/usr/src/sys/compile/MEINER i386 >Description: The manpage for accept(2) doesn't tell the user, that the second parameter can be NULL in order to ignore the third one, and to tell the kernel not to fill in any information about the client. >How-To-Repeat: >Fix: >Release-Note: >Audit-Trail: >Unformatted: From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Aug 27 21:55:40 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B50DB16A4BF for ; Wed, 27 Aug 2003 21:55:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: from t-mta3.odn.ne.jp (mfep3.odn.ne.jp [143.90.131.181]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 650E643FE5 for ; Wed, 27 Aug 2003 21:55:39 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from delmonta@ht.sakura.ne.jp) Received: from ht.sakura.ne.jp ([218.218.206.139]) by t-mta3.odn.ne.jp with ESMTP id <20030828045538728.ZTIB.358488.t-mta3.odn.ne.jp@mta3.odn.ne.jp>; Thu, 28 Aug 2003 13:55:38 +0900 Message-ID: <3F4D8B28.737D6B0C@ht.sakura.ne.jp> Date: Thu, 28 Aug 2003 13:55:04 +0900 From: IIJIMA Hiromitsu Organization: DENNOU GEDOU GAKKAI, N. D. D. http://www.dennougedougakkai-ndd.org X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.78 [ja] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: ja,en,zh-TW,zh,zh-CN,de,es,ko MIME-Version: 1.0 To: doc-jp-work@jp.freebsd.org, freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG References: <002901c36c93$ee58dfa0$020ba8c0@front> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: FreeBSD-users-jp@jp.FreeBSD.org Subject: Obsolete license terms at the FreeBSD website (Re:[FreeBSD-users-jp 75962]) X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: doc-jp-work@jp.freebsd.org, freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 28 Aug 2003 04:55:40 -0000 Dear all: # [Note] I've once posted it with charset=iso-2022-jp; I am reposting # since the previous post might be refused from FreeBSD-doc@freebsd.org. # # And I got subscribed to freebsd-doc@freebsd.org, so direct your replies # to the two groups. This is an information from a thread that starts with [FreeBSD-users-jp 75962]. http://www.freebsd.org/copyright/ and http://www.freebsd.org/ja/copyright/ introduce some copyright and legal issues concerning FreeBSD, but it seems that some of them are obsolete. 1. About GNU LGPL: GNU Library GPL (LGPL) was renamed to GNU *Lesser* GPL (also abbreviated as LGPL), with the reason described at http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/why-not-lgpl.html. The page above claims that ordinary GPL, not LGPL, should be applied for certain libraries while some libraries should remain in LGPL. I think that at least the page http://www.freebsd.org/(ja/)copyright/COPYING.LIB should be replaced by the latest Lesser GPL 2.1. 2. About 4.4BSD Copyright Terms: In the 4.4BSD copyright terms in http://www.freebsd.org/(ja/)copyright/license.html, the clause | 3.All advertising materials mentioning features or use of this software | must display the following acknowledgement: | | This product includes software developed by the University of | California, Berkeley and its contributors. was 'deleted in its entirety' in 1999, by the Director of Office of Tech- nology Licensing at UCB. cf. http://www.opensource.org/licenses/bsd-license.php I think that the fact that this clause was deleted should be noted as editors' note, with original text kept original, to show the historical change. ======================================================================== (Mr.) IIJIMA Hiromitsu, mailto:delmonta@ht.sakura.ne.jp aka Delmonta http://www.ht.sakura.ne.jp/~delmonta/ From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Aug 28 03:10:26 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@hub.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C7BF616A4BF for ; 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Thu, 28 Aug 2003 03:02:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx2.fillmore-labs.com (lima.fillmore-labs.com [62.138.193.83]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 666B443FA3 for ; Thu, 28 Aug 2003 03:01:41 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from eikemeier@fillmore-labs.com) Received: from p5080b7aa.dip.t-dialin.net ([80.128.183.170] helo=fillmore-labs.com ident=yvpet9qn4w6l1pvf) by mx2.fillmore-labs.com with asmtp (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.22) id 19sJb0-0007UC-6K for FreeBSD-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.org; Thu, 28 Aug 2003 12:01:38 +0200 Message-Id: <3F4DD2FD.7070507@fillmore-labs.com> Date: Thu, 28 Aug 2003 12:01:33 +0200 From: Oliver Eikemeier To: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.org Subject: docs/56075: reserve user id 389 for the OpenLDAP server X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 28 Aug 2003 10:10:26 -0000 >Number: 56075 >Category: docs >Synopsis: reserve user id 389 for the OpenLDAP server >Confidential: no >Severity: non-critical >Priority: medium >Responsible: freebsd-doc >State: open >Quarter: >Keywords: >Date-Required: >Class: change-request >Submitter-Id: current-users >Arrival-Date: Thu Aug 28 03:10:23 PDT 2003 >Closed-Date: >Last-Modified: >Originator: Oliver Eikemeier >Release: FreeBSD 4.8-STABLE i386 >Organization: Fillmore Labs - http://www.fillmore-labs.com >Environment: System: FreeBSD nuuk.fillmore-labs.com 4.8-STABLE >Description: Please reserve uid 389 for the OpenLDAP standalone LDAP server in http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/porters-handbook/dads-uid.html >How-To-Repeat: >Fix: include ldap:*:389:389:OpenLDAP Server:/nonexistent:/sbin/nologin in doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/porters-handbook/book.sgml >Release-Note: >Audit-Trail: >Unformatted: From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Aug 28 06:32:38 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@hub.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 47F0116A4BF; Thu, 28 Aug 2003 06:32:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8DA6A43F75; Thu, 28 Aug 2003 06:32:37 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from brueffer@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (brueffer@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h7SDWbUp052138; Thu, 28 Aug 2003 06:32:37 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from brueffer@freefall.freebsd.org) Received: (from brueffer@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.12.9/8.12.9/Submit) id h7SDWbNu052134; Thu, 28 Aug 2003 15:32:37 +0200 (CEST) Date: Thu, 28 Aug 2003 15:32:37 +0200 (CEST) From: Christian Brueffer Message-Id: <200308281332.h7SDWbNu052134@freefall.freebsd.org> To: eikemeier@fillmore-labs.com, brueffer@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: docs/56075: reserve user id 389 for the OpenLDAP server X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 28 Aug 2003 13:32:38 -0000 Synopsis: reserve user id 389 for the OpenLDAP server State-Changed-From-To: open->closed State-Changed-By: brueffer State-Changed-When: Thu Aug 28 15:32:21 CEST 2003 State-Changed-Why: Committed, thanks! http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=56075 From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Aug 28 08:30:38 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 069A016A4BF for ; 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charset="koi8-r" Subject: errata at FreeBSD HandBook X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 28 Aug 2003 15:30:38 -0000 Hello, Doc@freebsd.Org!!! FreeBSD Handbook called /dev/cuaiaN as /dev/cuai0N. Or I'm wrong? Sergey. ... úÎÁÎÉÅ - ÓÔÏÌØ ÄpÁÇÏÃÅÎÎÁÑ ×ÅÝØ, ÞÔÏ ÅÇÏ ÎÅ ÚÁÚÏpÎÏ ÄÏÂÙ×ÁÔØ ÉÚ ÌÀÂÏÇÏ From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Aug 28 09:30:10 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@hub.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 72EFC16A4C0 for ; Thu, 28 Aug 2003 09:30:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 90DE743FCB for ; Thu, 28 Aug 2003 09:30:06 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (gnats@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h7SGU6Up068490 for ; Thu, 28 Aug 2003 09:30:06 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats@freefall.freebsd.org) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.12.9/8.12.9/Submit) id h7SGU6rB068489; Thu, 28 Aug 2003 09:30:06 -0700 (PDT) Resent-Date: Thu, 28 Aug 2003 09:30:06 -0700 (PDT) Resent-Message-Id: <200308281630.h7SGU6rB068489@freefall.freebsd.org> Resent-From: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.org (GNATS Filer) Resent-To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Resent-Reply-To: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.org, Lukas Ertl Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A91AF16A4C1 for ; Thu, 28 Aug 2003 09:26:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mailbox.univie.ac.at (mail.univie.ac.at [131.130.1.27]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5AFB143FA3 for ; Thu, 28 Aug 2003 09:26:48 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from le@univie.ac.at) Received: from korben.in.tern (adslle.cc.univie.ac.at [131.130.102.11]) by mailbox.univie.ac.at (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h7SGQJDj214816 for ; Thu, 28 Aug 2003 18:26:26 +0200 Received: from korben.in.tern (korben.in.tern [127.0.0.1]) by korben.in.tern (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h7SGQH9x041151 for ; Thu, 28 Aug 2003 18:26:17 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from le@korben.in.tern) Received: (from le@localhost) by korben.in.tern (8.12.9/8.12.9/Submit) id h7SGQGkw041150; Thu, 28 Aug 2003 18:26:16 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from le) Message-Id: <200308281626.h7SGQGkw041150@korben.in.tern> Date: Thu, 28 Aug 2003 18:26:16 +0200 (CEST) From: Lukas Ertl To: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.org X-Send-Pr-Version: 3.113 Subject: docs/56086: [PATCH] catch up vx(4) with hardware notes X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Lukas Ertl List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 28 Aug 2003 16:30:10 -0000 >Number: 56086 >Category: docs >Synopsis: [PATCH] catch up vx(4) with hardware notes >Confidential: no >Severity: non-critical >Priority: low >Responsible: freebsd-doc >State: open >Quarter: >Keywords: >Date-Required: >Class: doc-bug >Submitter-Id: current-users >Arrival-Date: Thu Aug 28 09:30:06 PDT 2003 >Closed-Date: >Last-Modified: >Originator: Lukas Ertl >Release: FreeBSD 5.1-CURRENT i386 >Organization: Vienna University Computer Center >Environment: System: FreeBSD korben 5.1-CURRENT FreeBSD 5.1-CURRENT #14: Mon Aug 25 20:27:12 CEST 2003 le@korben:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/KORBEN i386 >Description: Confirmed by: source code. >How-To-Repeat: >Fix: --- vx.4.diff begins here --- Index: share/man/man4/man4.i386/vx.4 =================================================================== RCS file: /usr/local/bsdcvs/src/share/man/man4/man4.i386/vx.4,v retrieving revision 1.16 diff -u -r1.16 vx.4 --- share/man/man4/man4.i386/vx.4 14 Jul 2001 19:41:04 -0000 1.16 +++ share/man/man4/man4.i386/vx.4 28 Aug 2003 16:24:28 -0000 @@ -42,7 +42,8 @@ The .Nm driver provides support for the 3Com 3c590 and 3c595 EtherLink III and Fast -EtherLink III PCI Ethernet cards in 10 Mbps mode. The medium selection +EtherLink III PCI Ethernet cards, as well as the 3c592/3c597 EISA Ethernet +cards in 10 Mbps mode. The medium selection can be influenced by the following link flags to the .Xr ifconfig 8 command: --- vx.4.diff ends here --- >Release-Note: >Audit-Trail: >Unformatted: From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Aug 28 10:24:52 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D9B0B16A4BF for ; Thu, 28 Aug 2003 10:24:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: from uri.sublimemail.com (uri.sublimemail.com [66.45.27.201]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 24BFB43FEC for ; Thu, 28 Aug 2003 10:24:52 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from steve@havk.org) Received: from bsd.havk.org (unknown [208.3.11.173]) by uri.sublimemail.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6A21A4FC03E for ; Thu, 28 Aug 2003 12:24:51 -0500 (CDT) Received: by bsd.havk.org (Postfix, from userid 1001) id B78301A7BE; Thu, 28 Aug 2003 12:24:45 -0500 (CDT) Date: Thu, 28 Aug 2003 12:24:45 -0500 From: Steve Price To: freebsd-docs@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20030828172445.GU424@bsd.havk.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="+QahgC5+KEYLbs62" Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.27i X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 4.7-STABLE i386 Subject: FW: [PATCH] manpage fix X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 28 Aug 2003 17:24:53 -0000 --+QahgC5+KEYLbs62 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Can someone please verify this patch and get it committed if appropriate? Please Cc me on any replies. Thanks. -steve ----- Forwarded message from Tilghman Lesher ----- While looking at the source for libc, I realized that the tzfile.5 manpage is missing part of the file format, which could seriously screw up anybody attempting to parse the file(s). Attached is a patch for this. The file is normally found at: /usr/src/lib/libc/stdtime/tzfile.5 /usr/share/man/man5/tzfile.5.gz This patch is hereby disclaimed under the same license under which FreeBSD itself is distributed. -Tilghman ----- End forwarded message ----- --+QahgC5+KEYLbs62 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="tzfile.5.patch" --- tzfile.5.old Fri Aug 17 10:42:43 2001 +++ tzfile.5.fix Thu Aug 28 11:15:00 2003 @@ -15,7 +15,7 @@ to identify them as time zone information files, followed by sixteen bytes reserved for future use, -followed by four four-byte values +followed by six four-byte values written in a ``standard'' byte order (the high-order byte of the value is written first). These values are, @@ -89,6 +89,13 @@ that follow the .Li ttinfo structure(s) in the file. +.Pp +Then there are +.Va tzh_charcnt +bytes of ``timezone identification strings'' in standard C +(null-terminated) notation. See +.Va tt_abbrind +above for how these strings are referenced. .Pp Then there are .Va tzh_leapcnt --+QahgC5+KEYLbs62-- From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Aug 28 11:33:22 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3ACB816A4BF for ; Thu, 28 Aug 2003 11:33:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rwcrmhc12.comcast.net (rwcrmhc12.comcast.net [216.148.227.85]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0AA9643FBF for ; Thu, 28 Aug 2003 11:33:21 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from underway@comcast.net) Received: from localhost.localdomain (12-230-74-101.client.attbi.com[12.230.74.101](untrusted sender)) by attbi.com (rwcrmhc12) with ESMTP id <20030828182245014002a99ie>; Thu, 28 Aug 2003 18:22:45 +0000 Received: from localhost.localdomain (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by localhost.localdomain (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h7SINn4d044511; Thu, 28 Aug 2003 11:23:50 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from underway@comcast.net) Received: (from jojo@localhost) by localhost.localdomain (8.12.9/8.12.9/Submit) id h7SINdJR044508; Thu, 28 Aug 2003 11:23:39 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from underway@comcast.net) To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG References: <002901c36c93$ee58dfa0$020ba8c0@front> <3F4D8B28.737D6B0C@ht.sakura.ne.jp> From: underway@comcast.net (Gary W. Swearingen) Date: Thu, 28 Aug 2003 11:23:38 -0700 In-Reply-To: <3F4D8B28.737D6B0C@ht.sakura.ne.jp> (IIJIMA Hiromitsu's message of "Thu, 28 Aug 2003 13:55:04 +0900") Message-ID: <41he41od3p.e41@mail.comcast.net> User-Agent: Gnus/5.1002 (Gnus v5.10.2) XEmacs/21.4 (Portable Code, berkeley-unix) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii cc: doc-jp-work@jp.FreeBSD.org cc: FreeBSD-users-jp@jp.FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: Obsolete license terms at the FreeBSD website (Re:[FreeBSD-users-jp 75962]) X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 28 Aug 2003 18:33:22 -0000 IIJIMA Hiromitsu writes: > 1. About GNU LGPL: > > GNU Library GPL (LGPL) was renamed to GNU *Lesser* GPL (also abbreviated > as LGPL), with the reason described at > http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/why-not-lgpl.html. Strictly speaking, it wasn't. From LGPL v.2.1, dated Feb'1999: This is the first released version of the Lesser GPL. The older v.2 license, which describes itself as the "Library General Public License", is still in use and will be for a very long time. The LGPL 2.1 should be added to FreeBSD.org, though. And while the FSF is free to name their licenses as provocatively as they want, others are free to refer to them as they want. I'd like to see Freebsd.org use links with this text (FreeBSD shouldn't associate itself with the term "GNU" any more than necessary). LGPL v.2 -- The FSF's library license, version 2 LGPL v.2.1 -- The FSF's library license, version 2.1 (I might even go so far as to counter-provoke with "... The FSF's library greater public license...". :) > The page above claims that ordinary GPL, not LGPL, should be applied for > certain libraries while some libraries should remain in LGPL. Which doesn't detract from the fact that both versions of the LGPL are explicitly intended for libraries, using the word "library" throughout, except in the name of v.2.1, regardless of RMS's use of the disparaging word to discourag use of the more liberal license. So they are both rightly called a "GNU Library General Public License", regardless of their FSF-given title. Of course, the site maintainers will probably want to use the FSF title on v.2.1 to reduce complaints. Either way, I'd like to see a comment there about the term "lesser". On second thought, having the two titles together is its own comment. I find the term "lesser" offensive (in LGPL context) and think that it should be avoided when practical, as in this case. Consider how the FSF treats links it finds offensive: On gnu.misc.discuss (2002-02-18) some poor guy wanted the FSF to link to his Chinese GPL translation, but his URL had "Linux" in the domain name. From the message RMS> We don't link to translations of the GPL in URLs that say "Linux" RMS> because those URLs imply that the GPL is something about Linux. RMS> We find that claim offensive and we will not accept it. (The guy grovels in his reply to RMS, trying to get his translation used somehow, and he demonstrate's RMS's influence when he finishes: [Good thing I found out about the severity of this early, I was thinking of getting a @linux.org.* vanity e-mail address... now I can avoid another debugging session perhaps somewhere in the future.] > | 3.All advertising materials mentioning features or use of this software > I think that the fact that this clause was deleted should be noted as > editors' note, with original text kept original, to show the historical > change. Good idea. Maybe something like this (only slightly facetious): This page links to copies of the licenses which are associated with most parts of FreeBSD. There are other licenses, some with terms which might be considered more restrictive than the listed licenses. Various parts of FreeBSD are copyrighted by various parties. Many parts are copyrighted by multiple parties. Copyright notices are usually incomplete. (FreeBSD archives contain much identifying information, should anyone ever want to investigate ownership.) Those facts mean that users cannot expect to be able to identify every copyright owner or find the owners' explicit offers to license their software. Users can only hope that courts would find implied offers to use the software under the license commonly associated with the portion of FreeBSD in question. There is some legal risk involved in the use of most open-source software, including FreeBSD. Given the unusually generous nature of the most commonly used licenses in FreeBSD, one could guess that the risk is less with FreeBSD than some other operating systems. Much of the software was derived from the BSD which came from UCB (University of California, Berkeley) with the license labeled "The BSD License" below. The notice at ftp://ftp.cs.berkeley.edu/pub/4bsd/README.Impt.License.Change implies that the "advertising" clause of that license is no longer in force. From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Aug 28 12:19:52 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5FAA416A4BF for ; Thu, 28 Aug 2003 12:19:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: from shrike.submonkey.net (pc3-cdif2-5-cust222.cdif.cable.ntl.com [81.101.152.222]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 504F843FA3 for ; Thu, 28 Aug 2003 12:19:51 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from setantae@submonkey.net) Received: from setantae by shrike.submonkey.net with local (Exim 4.20) id 19sSJB-000Oeq-Qf; Thu, 28 Aug 2003 20:19:49 +0100 Date: Thu, 28 Aug 2003 20:19:49 +0100 From: Ceri Davies To: Sergey Zaikov Message-ID: <20030828191949.GE77721@submonkey.net> Mail-Followup-To: Ceri Davies , Sergey Zaikov , Doc@freebsd.Org References: <1062096786@p66.f5.n5022.z2.fidonet> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="qtZFehHsKgwS5rPz" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <1062096786@p66.f5.n5022.z2.fidonet> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.4i Sender: Ceri Davies cc: Doc@freebsd.Org Subject: Re: errata at FreeBSD HandBook X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 28 Aug 2003 19:19:52 -0000 --qtZFehHsKgwS5rPz Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Thu, Aug 28, 2003 at 05:52:10PM +0400, Sergey Zaikov wrote: > Hello, Doc@freebsd.Org!!! >=20 > FreeBSD Handbook called /dev/cuaiaN as /dev/cuai0N. >=20 > Or I'm wrong? No, you're right. There's also one instance of "cual0N". The attached patch should fix it; could someone confirm that Sergey and I haven't gone insane? Index: serialcomms/chapter.sgml =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D RCS file: /home/dcvs/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/serialcomms/chapter= =2Esgml,v retrieving revision 1.80 diff -u -r1.80 chapter.sgml --- serialcomms/chapter.sgml 13 Jul 2003 20:36:53 -0000 1.80 +++ serialcomms/chapter.sgml 28 Aug 2003 19:18:24 -0000 @@ -387,10 +387,10 @@ and /dev/cuaaN (call-out) devices. FreeBSD also provides initialization devices (/dev/ttyidN and - /dev/cuai0N) and + /dev/cuaiaN) and locking devices (/dev/ttyldN and - /dev/cual0N). The + /dev/cualaN). The initialization devices are used to initialize communications port parameters each time a port is opened, such as crtscts for modems which use @@ -1334,7 +1334,7 @@ /etc/rc.serial: # Serial port initial configuration stty -f /dev/ttyid1 crtscts -stty -f /dev/cuai01 crtscts +stty -f /dev/cuaia1 crtscts =20 Ceri --=20 User: DO YOU ACCEPT JESUS CHRIST AS YOUR PERSONAL LORD AND SAVIOR? Iniaes: Sure, I can accept all forms of payment. -- www.chatterboxchallenge.com --qtZFehHsKgwS5rPz Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.3 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQE/TlXVocfcwTS3JF8RAnkVAJ0XELoCPVB0hN5Vhe9aWtAsEHu+jgCdH5ds DTgPuaL58ZrfFwOSGaL1NFM= =9Fue -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --qtZFehHsKgwS5rPz-- From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Aug 28 14:10:21 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@hub.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BD0C116A4BF for ; Thu, 28 Aug 2003 14:10:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2A19F43F93 for ; Thu, 28 Aug 2003 14:10:21 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (gnats@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h7SLALUp095894 for ; Thu, 28 Aug 2003 14:10:21 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats@freefall.freebsd.org) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.12.9/8.12.9/Submit) id h7SLAKrF095888; Thu, 28 Aug 2003 14:10:21 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 28 Aug 2003 14:10:21 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <200308282110.h7SLAKrF095888@freefall.freebsd.org> To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org From: "Simon L. Nielsen" Subject: Re: docs/56017: [patch] ftpd(8): add hint to -u flag X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: "Simon L. Nielsen" List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 28 Aug 2003 21:10:21 -0000 The following reply was made to PR docs/56017; it has been noted by GNATS. From: "Simon L. Nielsen" To: Ceri Davies Cc: freebsd-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: docs/56017: [patch] ftpd(8): add hint to -u flag Date: Thu, 28 Aug 2003 23:09:50 +0200 --ibTvN161/egqYuK8 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 2003.08.26 16:30:20 -0700, Ceri Davies wrote: > I tell a lie; it should actually become: > =20 > --- /usr/src/libexec/ftpd/ftpd.8 Tue Feb 11 14:28:28 2003 > +++ /tmp/a Wed Aug 27 00:23:57 2003 > @@ -193,6 +193,8 @@ > Refer to > .Xr umask 2 > for details. > +This option may be overridden by > +.Xr login.conf 5 . > .It Fl U > In previous versions of > .Nm , I think this is good and should be committed. Will you do it? --=20 Simon L. Nielsen FreeBSD Documentation Team --ibTvN161/egqYuK8 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.3 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQE/Tm+ch9pcDSc1mlERAmaTAKCegsguCB67WKoxlXKTkcbE2OzK3gCZAWmN FaGK7LIOcjeteWCvzek7AFQ= =jbQM -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --ibTvN161/egqYuK8-- From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Aug 28 15:36:44 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E449D16A4BF for ; Thu, 28 Aug 2003 15:36:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail.ac-net.at (secure.ac-net.at [212.24.125.8]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A852F43FE3 for ; Thu, 28 Aug 2003 15:36:42 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from shammer@daemon.li) Received: from localhost (server.ac-net.at [127.0.0.1]) by mail.ac-net.at (AC-net Mailserver v1.3a) with ESMTP id DD8C23FFA for ; Fri, 29 Aug 2003 00:36:39 +0200 (CEST) Received: from daemon.li (dsl-238-106.utaonline.at [212.152.238.106]) by mail.ac-net.at (AC-net Mailserver v1.3a) with SMTP id B9DA03F5D for ; Thu, 28 Aug 2003 22:36:38 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 486 invoked from network); 28 Aug 2003 22:39:08 -0000 Received: from localhost (HELO daemon.li) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 28 Aug 2003 22:39:08 -0000 Received: (from shammer@localhost) by daemon.li (8.12.6/8.12.7/Submit) id h7SMd7Bi000484 for freebsd-doc@freebsd.org; Fri, 29 Aug 2003 00:39:07 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from shammer) Date: Fri, 29 Aug 2003 00:39:06 +0200 From: Josef El-Rayes To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20030828223906.GA451@daemon.li> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i Reply-Path: j.el-rayes@daemon.li X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 4.8-STABLE X-Virus-Scanned: by AMaViS 0.3.12 with AC-networks extensions Subject: articles/console-server: docbookify? X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: j.el-rayes@daemon.li List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 28 Aug 2003 22:36:45 -0000 hi! i was wondering why the article "console-server" is not marked up (like all our other documentation) in docbook. is there a special reason that keeps it from being marked up that way or might i test my docbook knowledge and convert it? please tell me what you think greets, josef -- www: http://www.daemon.li nic-hdl: JER1080312-NICAT BSD in AT: www.bsdcode.at "Make World - Not War!" From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Aug 28 16:10:12 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6565F16A4BF; Thu, 28 Aug 2003 16:10:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: from arthur.nitro.dk (port324.ds1-khk.adsl.cybercity.dk [212.242.113.79]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3B19343FB1; Thu, 28 Aug 2003 16:10:11 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from simon@arthur.nitro.dk) Received: by arthur.nitro.dk (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 59D9010BFAA; Fri, 29 Aug 2003 01:10:09 +0200 (CEST) Date: Fri, 29 Aug 2003 01:10:09 +0200 From: "Simon L. Nielsen" To: Ceri Davies , Sergey Zaikov , Doc@freebsd.Org Message-ID: <20030828231007.GC390@FreeBSD.org> References: <1062096786@p66.f5.n5022.z2.fidonet> <20030828191949.GE77721@submonkey.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="w7PDEPdKQumQfZlR" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20030828191949.GE77721@submonkey.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.4i Subject: Re: errata at FreeBSD HandBook X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 28 Aug 2003 23:10:12 -0000 --w7PDEPdKQumQfZlR Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 2003.08.28 20:19:49 +0100, Ceri Davies wrote: > On Thu, Aug 28, 2003 at 05:52:10PM +0400, Sergey Zaikov wrote: > > Hello, Doc@freebsd.Org!!! > >=20 > > FreeBSD Handbook called /dev/cuaiaN as /dev/cuai0N. > >=20 > > Or I'm wrong? >=20 > No, you're right. There's also one instance of "cual0N". > The attached patch should fix it; could someone confirm that Sergey > and I haven't gone insane? I checked of the sio(4) manual page, the sio(4) source code, and /dev on a 4.8 and a 5.1 system. All confirm the that 'cua[il]a' are the correct names, so I'm rather sure the change is correct. > Index: serialcomms/chapter.sgml > =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D > RCS file: /home/dcvs/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/serialcomms/chapt= er.sgml,v > retrieving revision 1.80 > diff -u -r1.80 chapter.sgml > --- serialcomms/chapter.sgml 13 Jul 2003 20:36:53 -0000 1.80 > +++ serialcomms/chapter.sgml 28 Aug 2003 19:18:24 -0000 > @@ -387,10 +387,10 @@ > and /dev/cuaaN > (call-out) devices. FreeBSD also provides initialization devices > (/dev/ttyidN and > - /dev/cuai0N) and > + /dev/cuaiaN) and > locking devices > (/dev/ttyldN and > - /dev/cual0N). The > + /dev/cualaN). The > initialization devices are used to initialize communications port > parameters each time a port is opened, such as > crtscts for modems which use > @@ -1334,7 +1334,7 @@ > /etc/rc.serial: > # Serial port initial configuration > stty -f /dev/ttyid1 crtscts > -stty -f /dev/cuai01 crtscts > +stty -f /dev/cuaia1 crtscts > =20 > > --=20 Simon L. Nielsen FreeBSD Documentation Team --w7PDEPdKQumQfZlR Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.3 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQE/TovPh9pcDSc1mlERAjMmAKCGL2cT6PPbOtiPVlDsFoBRZUdJFQCfaykO ea68sCmWEZqQq4gmAzqquLo= =qrYl -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --w7PDEPdKQumQfZlR-- From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Aug 28 16:36:55 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6F6C616A4BF for ; Thu, 28 Aug 2003 16:36:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: from shrike.submonkey.net (pc3-cdif2-5-cust222.cdif.cable.ntl.com [81.101.152.222]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A24A943F75 for ; Thu, 28 Aug 2003 16:36:54 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from setantae@submonkey.net) Received: from setantae by shrike.submonkey.net with local (Exim 4.20) id 19sWJr-000PeW-2x; Fri, 29 Aug 2003 00:36:47 +0100 Date: Fri, 29 Aug 2003 00:36:47 +0100 From: Ceri Davies To: Josef El-Rayes Message-ID: <20030828233646.GF77721@submonkey.net> Mail-Followup-To: Ceri Davies , Josef El-Rayes , freebsd-doc@freebsd.org References: <20030828223906.GA451@daemon.li> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="pQhZXvAqiZgbeUkD" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20030828223906.GA451@daemon.li> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.4i Sender: Ceri Davies cc: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: articles/console-server: docbookify? X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 28 Aug 2003 23:36:55 -0000 --pQhZXvAqiZgbeUkD Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Fri, Aug 29, 2003 at 12:39:06AM +0200, Josef El-Rayes wrote: > hi! >=20 > i was wondering why the article "console-server" is not marked up (like > all our other documentation) in docbook. > is there a special reason that keeps it from being marked up that way or > might i test my docbook knowledge and convert it? No, it should be converted. I have some work in progress in this area (most of which was done by keramida). If this is really something that you want to do, then I'll dig it out for you. Ceri --=20 User: DO YOU ACCEPT JESUS CHRIST AS YOUR PERSONAL LORD AND SAVIOR? Iniaes: Sure, I can accept all forms of payment. -- www.chatterboxchallenge.com --pQhZXvAqiZgbeUkD Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.3 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQE/TpIOocfcwTS3JF8RAtzdAKC3caBlagpRWe8Z3SiiwMTLNo4LIgCfc3Zg eADfTINIVKKXZiuCw4ASdtk= =HL3N -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --pQhZXvAqiZgbeUkD-- From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Aug 28 16:40:20 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@hub.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9B30E16A4C0 for ; Thu, 28 Aug 2003 16:40:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 309F943FA3 for ; Thu, 28 Aug 2003 16:40:20 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (gnats@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h7SNeJUp008319 for ; Thu, 28 Aug 2003 16:40:19 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats@freefall.freebsd.org) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.12.9/8.12.9/Submit) id h7SNeJ8r008318; Thu, 28 Aug 2003 16:40:19 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 28 Aug 2003 16:40:19 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <200308282340.h7SNeJ8r008318@freefall.freebsd.org> To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org From: Bernd Luevelsmeyer Subject: Re: docs/56044: missing information in manpage for accept(2) X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Bernd Luevelsmeyer List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 28 Aug 2003 23:40:20 -0000 The following reply was made to PR docs/56044; it has been noted by GNATS. From: Bernd Luevelsmeyer To: freebsd-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.org, felix@zotteljedi.de Cc: Subject: Re: docs/56044: missing information in manpage for accept(2) Date: Fri, 29 Aug 2003 01:38:45 +0200 I suggest this patch: --- accept.2.orig Fri Aug 29 01:26:29 2003 +++ accept.2 Fri Aug 29 01:32:53 2003 @@ -86,7 +86,13 @@ .Fa addr parameter is determined by the domain in which the communication is occurring. -The +.Fa addr +may be a NULL pointer if the address information is not desired. +If +.Fa addr +is a NULL pointer, +.Fa addrlen +is not used and should be NULL; otherwise, the .Fa addrlen is a value-result parameter; it should initially contain the amount of space pointed to by From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Aug 28 16:42:11 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B7ACE16A4C2; Thu, 28 Aug 2003 16:42:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: from shrike.submonkey.net (pc3-cdif2-5-cust222.cdif.cable.ntl.com [81.101.152.222]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1B45143F3F; Thu, 28 Aug 2003 16:42:10 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from setantae@submonkey.net) Received: from setantae by shrike.submonkey.net with local (Exim 4.20) id 19sWP3-000PgX-DH; Fri, 29 Aug 2003 00:42:09 +0100 Date: Fri, 29 Aug 2003 00:42:09 +0100 From: Ceri Davies To: "Simon L. Nielsen" Message-ID: <20030828234209.GG77721@submonkey.net> Mail-Followup-To: Ceri Davies , "Simon L. Nielsen" , Sergey Zaikov , Doc@freebsd.Org References: <1062096786@p66.f5.n5022.z2.fidonet> <20030828191949.GE77721@submonkey.net> <20030828231007.GC390@FreeBSD.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="47eKBCiAZYFK5l32" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20030828231007.GC390@FreeBSD.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.4i Sender: Ceri Davies cc: Doc@freebsd.Org cc: Sergey Zaikov Subject: Re: errata at FreeBSD HandBook X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 28 Aug 2003 23:42:11 -0000 --47eKBCiAZYFK5l32 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Fri, Aug 29, 2003 at 01:10:09AM +0200, Simon L. Nielsen wrote: > On 2003.08.28 20:19:49 +0100, Ceri Davies wrote: > > On Thu, Aug 28, 2003 at 05:52:10PM +0400, Sergey Zaikov wrote: > > > Hello, Doc@freebsd.Org!!! > > >=20 > > > FreeBSD Handbook called /dev/cuaiaN as /dev/cuai0N. > > >=20 > > > Or I'm wrong? > >=20 > > No, you're right. There's also one instance of "cual0N". > > The attached patch should fix it; could someone confirm that Sergey > > and I haven't gone insane? >=20 > I checked of the sio(4) manual page, the sio(4) source code, and /dev on > a 4.8 and a 5.1 system. All confirm the that 'cua[il]a' are the correct > names, so I'm rather sure the change is correct. Ace. Fixed, then. Thanks for letting us know, Sergey. Ceri --=20 User: DO YOU ACCEPT JESUS CHRIST AS YOUR PERSONAL LORD AND SAVIOR? Iniaes: Sure, I can accept all forms of payment. -- www.chatterboxchallenge.com --47eKBCiAZYFK5l32 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.3 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQE/TpNRocfcwTS3JF8RAotVAJ4xBlO/XresdVJhxwQsH3os406EBgCgnXU9 0eNDVWiFBiHYtlgKQOMUXog= =UVYO -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --47eKBCiAZYFK5l32-- From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Aug 28 16:44:46 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 23B8716A4BF for ; Thu, 28 Aug 2003 16:44:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail.ac-net.at (secure.ac-net.at [212.24.125.8]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 09A5A43FF2 for ; Thu, 28 Aug 2003 16:44:44 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from shammer@daemon.li) Received: from localhost (server.ac-net.at [127.0.0.1]) by mail.ac-net.at (AC-net Mailserver v1.3a) with ESMTP id 95B6C3FFD for ; Fri, 29 Aug 2003 01:44:41 +0200 (CEST) Received: from daemon.li (dsl-238-106.utaonline.at [212.152.238.106]) by mail.ac-net.at (AC-net Mailserver v1.3a) with SMTP id E04AE3FFA for ; Thu, 28 Aug 2003 23:44:39 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 680 invoked from network); 28 Aug 2003 23:47:09 -0000 Received: from localhost (HELO daemon.li) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 28 Aug 2003 23:47:09 -0000 Received: (from shammer@localhost) by daemon.li (8.12.6/8.12.7/Submit) id h7SNl88G000678; Fri, 29 Aug 2003 01:47:08 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from shammer) Date: Fri, 29 Aug 2003 01:47:08 +0200 From: Josef El-Rayes To: Ceri Davies Message-ID: <20030828234708.GA652@daemon.li> References: <20030828223906.GA451@daemon.li> <20030828233646.GF77721@submonkey.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20030828233646.GF77721@submonkey.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i Reply-Path: j.el-rayes@daemon.li X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 4.8-STABLE X-Virus-Scanned: by AMaViS 0.3.12 with AC-networks extensions cc: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: articles/console-server: docbookify? X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: j.el-rayes@daemon.li List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 28 Aug 2003 23:44:46 -0000 Ceri Davies wrote: > No, it should be converted. > > I have some work in progress in this area (most of which was done by > keramida). If this is really something that you want to do, then I'll > dig it out for you. i would really like to see this converted and after all i am always looking for work i can do :) greets, josef -- www: http://www.daemon.li nic-hdl: JER1080312-NICAT BSD in AT: www.bsdcode.at "Make World - Not War!" From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Aug 28 17:31:02 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 705E716A4BF for ; Thu, 28 Aug 2003 17:31:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: from unbreakable.homeunix.org (a213-22-141-83.netcabo.pt [213.22.141.83]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8CD3843FE0 for ; Thu, 28 Aug 2003 17:31:01 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from sub_0@netcabo.pt) From: Mario Freitas To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="=-Ukt2Ly3j/hhBcW6vLHzK" Message-Id: <1062117062.706.6.camel@suzy.unbreakable.homeunix.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Ximian Evolution 1.4.4 Date: Fri, 29 Aug 2003 00:31:03 +0000 Subject: Missing parentesis X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: sub_0@netcabo.pt List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 29 Aug 2003 00:31:02 -0000 --=-Ukt2Ly3j/hhBcW6vLHzK Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable This problem is minimum but I thought that it was worthy. There is a missing parentesis in handbook (section 18.7.2.2.1): "(see the manual pages for syslogd(8) and syslog.conf(5) and perhaps check /etc/syslog.conf to see to what syslogd is logging and where it is logging to." Thanks, --=20 M=E1rio Freitas (sub_0@netcabo.pt) N=FAcleo Portugu=EAs de FreeBSD (NPF) --=-Ukt2Ly3j/hhBcW6vLHzK Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Description: This is a digitally signed message part -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.2 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQA/Tp7GmOO46MB/5oURAjV8AKDAgofceAPeSkkcW0yfBdhsWS5XaQCgrtDt 9/IUpoNv29pzK/aZ8ALYWr8= =Qfgg -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --=-Ukt2Ly3j/hhBcW6vLHzK-- From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Aug 29 00:03:44 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2E4FF16A4BF for ; Fri, 29 Aug 2003 00:03:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: from abigail.blackend.org (blackend.org [212.11.35.229]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5D40543FE9 for ; Fri, 29 Aug 2003 00:03:42 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from marc@blackend.org) Received: from nosferatu.blackend.org (nosferatu.blackend.org [192.168.10.205]) by abigail.blackend.org (8.12.9/8.12.3) with ESMTP id h7T73dWp052832; Fri, 29 Aug 2003 09:03:40 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from marc@abigail.blackend.org) Received: from nosferatu.blackend.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) h7T72riN004120; Fri, 29 Aug 2003 09:02:53 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from marc@nosferatu.blackend.org) Received: (from marc@localhost) by nosferatu.blackend.org (8.12.9/8.12.9/Submit) id h7T72rO3004119; Fri, 29 Aug 2003 09:02:53 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from marc) Date: Fri, 29 Aug 2003 09:02:53 +0200 From: Marc Fonvieille To: Mario Freitas Message-ID: <20030829070253.GB577@nosferatu.blackend.org> References: <1062117062.706.6.camel@suzy.unbreakable.homeunix.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="X1bOJ3K7DJ5YkBrT" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <1062117062.706.6.camel@suzy.unbreakable.homeunix.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4i X-Useless-Header: blackend.org X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 5.1-CURRENT cc: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Missing parentesis X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 29 Aug 2003 07:03:44 -0000 --X1bOJ3K7DJ5YkBrT Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline On Fri, Aug 29, 2003 at 12:31:03AM +0000, Mario Freitas wrote: > This problem is minimum but I thought that it was worthy. There is a > missing parentesis in handbook (section 18.7.2.2.1): > "(see the manual pages for syslogd(8) and syslog.conf(5) and perhaps > check /etc/syslog.conf to see to what syslogd is logging and where it is > logging to." > Done, Thanks. Marc --X1bOJ3K7DJ5YkBrT Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQE/Tvqa81T1MWxkgcoRAs9ZAJ9WA0asnCMW1Uw8fNOl6AK/jK/plQCeNblt sYHVAjKZdM0ibDOAc95HfsA= =nf3p -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --X1bOJ3K7DJ5YkBrT-- From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Aug 29 02:14:07 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BBF8D16A4BF for ; Fri, 29 Aug 2003 02:14:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: from eufig1.rit.reuters.com (eufig1.rit.reuters.com [194.205.123.3]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 30F7443F85 for ; Fri, 29 Aug 2003 02:14:06 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from Geoff.Buckingham@reuters.com) Received: from no.name.available by eufig1.rit.reuters.com via smtpd (for mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) with SMTP; 29 Aug 2003 09:14:06 UT Received: from eupig1 (unverified) by dtcseuvig5.dtc.lon.ime.reuters.com (Content Technologies SMTPRS 4.3.6) with ESMTP id for ; Fri, 29 Aug 2003 10:13:04 +0100 Message-ID: Received: from gsssmsxb01.emea.ime.reuters.com ([10.5.150.32]) by eupig1.dtc.lon.ime.reuters.com (PMDF V6.1-1 #40186) with ESMTP id <0HKD00NCJIZ84X@eupig1.dtc.lon.ime.reuters.com> for doc@freebsd.org; Fri, 29 Aug 2003 09:13:56 +0000 (GMT) Received: from dtcsmsxm06.emea.ime.reuters.com ([10.5.150.53]) by gsssmsxb01.emea.ime.reuters.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC (5.0.2195.4905); Fri, 29 Aug 2003 10:11:58 +0100 Date: Fri, 29 Aug 2003 10:11:58 +0100 From: Geoff Buckingham To: doc@freebsd.org MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.0.6344.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable Thread-Topic: Zdnet pick up java story: Thread-Index: AcNuDZl6FM2pgkFJSemT4tGDYByVoQ== content-class: urn:content-classes:message X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 29 Aug 2003 09:11:58.0901 (UTC) FILETIME=[99B67E50:01C36E0D] Subject: Zdnet pick up java story: X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 29 Aug 2003 09:14:07 -0000 http://news.zdnet.co.uk/software/linuxunix/0,39020390,39115978,00.htm --------------------------------------------------------------- - Visit our Internet site at http://www.reuters.com Get closer to the financial markets with Reuters Messaging - for more information and to register, visit http://www.reuters.com/messaging Any views expressed in this message are those of the individual sender, except where the sender specifically states them to be the views of Reuters Ltd. From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Aug 29 03:43:41 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8562D16A4BF for ; Fri, 29 Aug 2003 03:43:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: from vsmtp3.tin.it (vsmtp3.tin.it [212.216.176.223]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3524443FEC for ; Fri, 29 Aug 2003 03:43:40 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from rionda@gufi.org) Received: from kaiser.sig11.org (80.117.55.21) by vsmtp3.tin.it (7.0.019) id 3F4F1DDF000062DF for doc@freebsd.org; Fri, 29 Aug 2003 12:43:38 +0200 Received: by kaiser.sig11.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 12E9021; Fri, 29 Aug 2003 12:43:36 +0200 (CEST) From: Matteo Riondato To: doc@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <1062153816.15977.33.camel@kaiser.sig11.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Ximian Evolution 1.4.4 Date: Fri, 29 Aug 2003 12:43:36 +0200 Subject: no more X(7) man page? X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: rionda@gufi.org List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 29 Aug 2003 10:43:41 -0000 In xhost(1) there is a reference to X(7), but this manual page doesn't seem to exist on my -CURRENT box. Is this a bug or is it only one of my many problems? :) Regards -- Rionda aka Matteo Riondato G.U.F.I Staff Member (http://www.gufi.org) BSD-FAQ-it Main Developer (http://www.gufi.org/~rionda) GPG key at: http://www.riondabsd.net/riondagpg.asc Sent from: kaiser.sig11.org running FreeBSD-5.1-CURRENT From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Aug 29 04:51:40 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@hub.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9382A16A4BF; Fri, 29 Aug 2003 04:51:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1E6BC43FBD; Fri, 29 Aug 2003 04:51:40 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from simon@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (simon@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h7TBpeUp081314; Fri, 29 Aug 2003 04:51:40 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from simon@freefall.freebsd.org) Received: (from simon@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.12.9/8.12.9/Submit) id h7TBpd2L081310; Fri, 29 Aug 2003 04:51:39 -0700 (PDT) Date: Fri, 29 Aug 2003 04:51:39 -0700 (PDT) From: "Simon L. Nielsen" Message-Id: <200308291151.h7TBpd2L081310@freefall.freebsd.org> To: simon@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org, simon@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: docs/56086: [PATCH] catch up vx(4) with hardware notes X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 29 Aug 2003 11:51:40 -0000 Synopsis: [PATCH] catch up vx(4) with hardware notes Responsible-Changed-From-To: freebsd-doc->simon Responsible-Changed-By: simon Responsible-Changed-When: Fri Aug 29 04:51:14 PDT 2003 Responsible-Changed-Why: I'm working on this one. http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=56086 From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Aug 29 06:00:31 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@hub.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D241816A4BF for ; Fri, 29 Aug 2003 06:00:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8F08E43FB1 for ; Fri, 29 Aug 2003 06:00:30 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (gnats@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h7TD0UUp018717 for ; Fri, 29 Aug 2003 06:00:30 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats@freefall.freebsd.org) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.12.9/8.12.9/Submit) id h7TD0Umc018716; Fri, 29 Aug 2003 06:00:30 -0700 (PDT) Resent-Date: Fri, 29 Aug 2003 06:00:30 -0700 (PDT) Resent-Message-Id: <200308291300.h7TD0Umc018716@freefall.freebsd.org> Resent-From: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.org (GNATS Filer) Resent-To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Resent-Reply-To: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.org, marcov@stack.nl Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 151AA16A4C0 for ; Fri, 29 Aug 2003 05:54:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: from hexagon2.stack.nl (hexagon2.stack.nl [131.155.140.147]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AF7BB43FCB for ; Fri, 29 Aug 2003 05:54:13 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from marcov@stack.nl) Received: from toad.stack.nl (zen.stack.nl [IPv6:2001:610:1108:5010::130]) by hexagon2.stack.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id F1D835C01E for ; Fri, 29 Aug 2003 14:54:00 +0200 (CEST) Received: by toad.stack.nl (Postfix, from userid 816) id 67FD09B; Fri, 29 Aug 2003 14:54:12 +0200 (CEST) Message-Id: <20030829125412.67FD09B@toad.stack.nl> Date: Fri, 29 Aug 2003 14:54:12 +0200 (CEST) From: marcov@stack.nl (Marco van de Voort) To: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.org X-Send-Pr-Version: 3.113 Subject: docs/56132: There are 2 pascal compilers in ports. Fix for tool-doc. X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: marcov@stack.nl List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 29 Aug 2003 13:00:31 -0000 >Number: 56132 >Category: docs >Synopsis: There are 2 pascal compilers in ports. Fix for tool-doc. >Confidential: no >Severity: non-critical >Priority: low >Responsible: freebsd-doc >State: open >Quarter: >Keywords: >Date-Required: >Class: doc-bug >Submitter-Id: current-users >Arrival-Date: Fri Aug 29 06:00:30 PDT 2003 >Closed-Date: >Last-Modified: >Originator: Marco van de Voort >Release: FreeBSD 4.7-RELEASE i386 >Organization: Free Pascal >Environment: System: FreeBSD deathstar 4.7-RELEASE FreeBSD 4.7-RELEASE #0: Fri Nov 8 20:35:05 CET 2002 root@:/usr/src/sys/compile/GENERIC i386 >Description: There are 2 pascal compilers in ports. Fix for tool-doc ( http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/developers-handbook/tools-programming.html ) >How-To-Repeat: >Fix: apply patch to /usr/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/developers-handbook/tools/chapter.sgnl --- chapter.sgml Wed Aug 27 09:16:27 2003 +++ chapter.sgml Fri Aug 29 14:49:07 2003 @@ -321,9 +321,11 @@ experienced programmers; Pascal, on the other hand, was designed as an educational language, and is quite a good language to start with. FreeBSD does not include Pascal - support in the base system, but the GNU Pascal Compiler (gpc) - is available in the ports collection as - lang/gpc. + support in the base system, but both the GNU Pascal Compiler (gpc) + and the Free Pascal Compiler are available in the ports + collection as + lang/gpc and + lang/fpc. As the edit-compile-run-debug cycle is rather tedious when using separate programs, many commercial compiler makers have >Release-Note: >Audit-Trail: >Unformatted: Reply-To: marcov@stack.nl Cc: X-send-pr-version: 3.113 X-GNATS-Notify: From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Aug 29 06:32:17 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@hub.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BDFF416A4BF; Fri, 29 Aug 2003 06:32:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 10B3343F75; Fri, 29 Aug 2003 06:32:17 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from blackend@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (blackend@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h7TDWGUp024066; Fri, 29 Aug 2003 06:32:16 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from blackend@freefall.freebsd.org) Received: (from blackend@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.12.9/8.12.9/Submit) id h7TDWG1V024062; Fri, 29 Aug 2003 06:32:16 -0700 (PDT) Date: Fri, 29 Aug 2003 06:32:16 -0700 (PDT) From: Marc Fonvieille Message-Id: <200308291332.h7TDWG1V024062@freefall.freebsd.org> To: marcov@stack.nl, blackend@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: docs/56132: There are 2 pascal compilers in ports. Fix for tool-doc. X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 29 Aug 2003 13:32:17 -0000 Synopsis: There are 2 pascal compilers in ports. Fix for tool-doc. State-Changed-From-To: open->closed State-Changed-By: blackend State-Changed-When: Fri Aug 29 06:31:36 PDT 2003 State-Changed-Why: I committed a very slightly different version of your patch. Thanks. http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=56132 From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Aug 29 09:10:53 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0171816A4BF for ; Fri, 29 Aug 2003 09:10:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rwcrmhc11.comcast.net (rwcrmhc11.comcast.net [204.127.198.35]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D411943FAF for ; Fri, 29 Aug 2003 09:10:49 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from underway@comcast.net) Received: from localhost.localdomain (12-230-74-101.client.attbi.com[12.230.74.101](untrusted sender)) by attbi.com (rwcrmhc11) with ESMTP id <20030829161049013001qc04e>; Fri, 29 Aug 2003 16:10:49 +0000 Received: from localhost.localdomain (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by localhost.localdomain (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h7TGBV4d067097; Fri, 29 Aug 2003 09:11:37 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from underway@comcast.net) Received: (from jojo@localhost) by localhost.localdomain (8.12.9/8.12.9/Submit) id h7TGBP4F067096; Fri, 29 Aug 2003 09:11:25 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from underway@comcast.net) To: rionda@gufi.org References: <1062153816.15977.33.camel@kaiser.sig11.org> From: underway@comcast.net (Gary W. Swearingen) Date: Fri, 29 Aug 2003 09:11:25 -0700 In-Reply-To: <1062153816.15977.33.camel@kaiser.sig11.org> (Matteo Riondato's message of "Fri, 29 Aug 2003 12:43:36 +0200") Message-ID: User-Agent: Gnus/5.1002 (Gnus v5.10.2) XEmacs/21.4 (Portable Code, berkeley-unix) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii cc: doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: no more X(7) man page? X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 29 Aug 2003 16:10:53 -0000 It's on mine with /var/db/pkg/XFree86-4.3.0,1 And "man -wa X" and "man X" work. But I wonder way the header is "X(__miscmansuffix__)". From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Aug 29 09:24:56 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F35F516A4BF for ; Fri, 29 Aug 2003 09:24:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: from arthur.nitro.dk (port324.ds1-khk.adsl.cybercity.dk [212.242.113.79]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3B22343FD7 for ; Fri, 29 Aug 2003 09:24:55 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from simon@arthur.nitro.dk) Received: by arthur.nitro.dk (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 9BAE710BF8C; Fri, 29 Aug 2003 18:24:53 +0200 (CEST) Date: Fri, 29 Aug 2003 18:24:53 +0200 From: "Simon L. Nielsen" To: "Gary W. Swearingen" Message-ID: <20030829162451.GC391@FreeBSD.org> References: <1062153816.15977.33.camel@kaiser.sig11.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="sgneBHv3152wZ8jf" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.4i cc: doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: no more X(7) man page? X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 29 Aug 2003 16:24:56 -0000 --sgneBHv3152wZ8jf Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 2003.08.29 09:11:25 -0700, Gary W. Swearingen wrote: > It's on mine with /var/db/pkg/XFree86-4.3.0,1 >=20 > And "man -wa X" and "man X" work. I just checked and I didn't have an X manual page. I installed x11/XFree86-4-manual and now I do have one. For some reason XFree86-4-manual is not part of the XFree86-4 meta port. --=20 Simon L. Nielsen FreeBSD Documentation Team --sgneBHv3152wZ8jf Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.3 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQE/T35Th9pcDSc1mlERAkgRAKCOFq0AwACHxyodxX4Ai4QgBxfvWACfdIul 4aBj5HAksFO+reG6XyCfZZY= =gTCr -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --sgneBHv3152wZ8jf-- From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Aug 29 23:31:55 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 39B2516A4BF; Fri, 29 Aug 2003 23:31:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: from vsmtp2.tin.it (vsmtp2.tin.it [212.216.176.222]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E947D43FBF; Fri, 29 Aug 2003 23:31:53 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from rionda@gufi.org) Received: from kaiser.sig11.org (80.117.55.21) by vsmtp2.tin.it (7.0.019) id 3F4F193C00046515; Sat, 30 Aug 2003 08:31:52 +0200 Received: by kaiser.sig11.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 36B911F; Sat, 30 Aug 2003 08:31:51 +0200 (CEST) From: Matteo Riondato To: "Simon L. Nielsen" In-Reply-To: <20030829162451.GC391@FreeBSD.org> References: <1062153816.15977.33.camel@kaiser.sig11.org> <20030829162451.GC391@FreeBSD.org> Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <1062225110.15977.50.camel@kaiser.sig11.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Ximian Evolution 1.4.4 Date: Sat, 30 Aug 2003 08:31:50 +0200 cc: doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: no more X(7) man page? X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: rionda@gufi.org List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 30 Aug 2003 06:31:55 -0000 Il Ven, 2003-08-29 alle 18:24, Simon L. Nielsen ha scritto: > On 2003.08.29 09:11:25 -0700, Gary W. Swearingen wrote: > > It's on mine with /var/db/pkg/XFree86-4.3.0,1 > > > > And "man -wa X" and "man X" work. > > I just checked and I didn't have an X manual page. I installed > x11/XFree86-4-manual and now I do have one. For some reason > XFree86-4-manual is not part of the XFree86-4 meta port. Should I contact XFree86-4 meta port maintainer to let him now of this little bug (or is it a feature??) -- Rionda aka Matteo Riondato G.U.F.I Staff Member (http://www.gufi.org) BSD-FAQ-it Main Developer (http://www.gufi.org/~rionda) GPG key at: http://www.riondabsd.net/riondagpg.asc Sent from: kaiser.sig11.org running FreeBSD-5.1-CURRENT From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Aug 30 05:42:58 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CB24916A4BF for ; Sat, 30 Aug 2003 05:42:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: from arthur.nitro.dk (port324.ds1-khk.adsl.cybercity.dk [212.242.113.79]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 18ACE43FDF for ; Sat, 30 Aug 2003 05:42:58 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from simon@arthur.nitro.dk) Received: by arthur.nitro.dk (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 6700910BFAA; Sat, 30 Aug 2003 14:42:56 +0200 (CEST) Date: Sat, 30 Aug 2003 14:42:56 +0200 From: "Simon L. Nielsen" To: Matteo Riondato Message-ID: <20030830124254.GC392@FreeBSD.org> References: <1062153816.15977.33.camel@kaiser.sig11.org> <20030829162451.GC391@FreeBSD.org> <1062225110.15977.50.camel@kaiser.sig11.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="lMM8JwqTlfDpEaS6" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <1062225110.15977.50.camel@kaiser.sig11.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.4i cc: doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: no more X(7) man page? X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 30 Aug 2003 12:42:58 -0000 --lMM8JwqTlfDpEaS6 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 2003.08.30 08:31:50 +0200, Matteo Riondato wrote: > Il Ven, 2003-08-29 alle 18:24, Simon L. Nielsen ha scritto: > > On 2003.08.29 09:11:25 -0700, Gary W. Swearingen wrote: > > > It's on mine with /var/db/pkg/XFree86-4.3.0,1 > > >=20 > > > And "man -wa X" and "man X" work. > >=20 > > I just checked and I didn't have an X manual page. I installed > > x11/XFree86-4-manual and now I do have one. For some reason > > XFree86-4-manual is not part of the XFree86-4 meta port. >=20 > Should I contact XFree86-4 meta port maintainer to let him now of this > little bug (or is it a feature??) There is no need for that, since I wrote a mail to him yesterday asking about this. --=20 Simon L. Nielsen FreeBSD Documentation Team --lMM8JwqTlfDpEaS6 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.3 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQE/UJvOh9pcDSc1mlERArlVAJ94DebtBJhxLf4uzKgQny22LPD9igCffpIJ nLnvcV6qsOiCs+0j6zVJxN0= =PngN -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --lMM8JwqTlfDpEaS6-- From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Aug 30 05:55:19 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1CE0316A4BF; Sat, 30 Aug 2003 05:55:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: from vsmtp2.tin.it (vsmtp2.tin.it [212.216.176.222]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D8D6243FEA; Sat, 30 Aug 2003 05:55:17 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from rionda@gufi.org) Received: from kaiser.sig11.org (80.117.55.21) by vsmtp2.tin.it (7.0.019) id 3F4F193C0005A451; Sat, 30 Aug 2003 14:55:15 +0200 Received: by kaiser.sig11.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 23D2F1F; Sat, 30 Aug 2003 14:55:13 +0200 (CEST) From: Matteo Riondato To: "Simon L. Nielsen" In-Reply-To: <20030830124254.GC392@FreeBSD.org> References: <1062153816.15977.33.camel@kaiser.sig11.org> <20030829162451.GC391@FreeBSD.org> <1062225110.15977.50.camel@kaiser.sig11.org> <20030830124254.GC392@FreeBSD.org> Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <1062248112.15977.63.camel@kaiser.sig11.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Ximian Evolution 1.4.4 Date: Sat, 30 Aug 2003 14:55:13 +0200 cc: doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: no more X(7) man page? X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: rionda@gufi.org List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 30 Aug 2003 12:55:19 -0000 Il Sab, 2003-08-30 alle 14:42, Simon L. Nielsen : > On 2003.08.30 08:31:50 +0200, Matteo Riondato wrote: > > Il Ven, 2003-08-29 alle 18:24, Simon L. Nielsen ha scritto: > > > For some reason > > > XFree86-4-manual is not part of the XFree86-4 meta port. > > > > Should I contact XFree86-4 meta port maintainer to let him now of this > > little bug (or is it a feature??) > > There is no need for that, since I wrote a mail to him yesterday asking > about this. Thanks -- Rionda aka Matteo Riondato G.U.F.I Staff Member (http://www.gufi.org) BSD-FAQ-it Main Developer (http://www.gufi.org/~rionda) GPG key at: http://www.riondabsd.net/riondagpg.asc Sent from: kaiser.sig11.org running FreeBSD-5.1-CURRENT From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Aug 30 15:48:18 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@hub.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7E30116A4BF; Sat, 30 Aug 2003 15:48:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0917B43FF9; Sat, 30 Aug 2003 15:48:18 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from brueffer@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (brueffer@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h7UMmHUp065899; Sat, 30 Aug 2003 15:48:17 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from brueffer@freefall.freebsd.org) Received: (from brueffer@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.12.9/8.12.9/Submit) id h7UMmHp8065895; Sun, 31 Aug 2003 00:48:17 +0200 (CEST) Date: Sun, 31 Aug 2003 00:48:17 +0200 (CEST) From: Christian Brueffer Message-Id: <200308302248.h7UMmHp8065895@freefall.freebsd.org> To: wiwi@progon.net, brueffer@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: docs/55837: nice: man pages incorrect (4.8,5.0&5.1) X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 30 Aug 2003 22:48:18 -0000 Synopsis: nice: man pages incorrect (4.8,5.0&5.1) State-Changed-From-To: open->feedback State-Changed-By: brueffer State-Changed-When: Sun Aug 31 00:47:46 CEST 2003 State-Changed-Why: Waiting for feedback from the submitter http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=55837 From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Aug 30 20:56:56 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A032616A4BF for ; Sat, 30 Aug 2003 20:56:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: from imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.67]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C0C6343FE0 for ; Sat, 30 Aug 2003 20:56:55 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from sidekickmail@bellsouth.net) Received: from bhdd2caf ([68.155.251.210]) by imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with SMTP id <20030831035655.ZSBG24929.imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net@bhdd2caf> for ; Sat, 30 Aug 2003 23:56:55 -0400 Message-ID: <000a01c36f73$f7528b50$6601a8c0@bhdd2caf> From: "Sidekickmail" To: Date: Sat, 30 Aug 2003 23:57:15 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.1 Subject: Will your OS do? X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 31 Aug 2003 03:56:56 -0000 How about gaming? Delta Force Black Hawk Down? Diablo 2? Nascar2003? = WIll your OS support games? =20 Thanks, Sidekick