From owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Sun May 4 00:10:03 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 58BF137B401; Sun, 4 May 2003 00:10:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nezlok.unixathome.org (nezlok.unixathome.org [64.251.88.60]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0718443FD7; Sun, 4 May 2003 00:10:03 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dan@nezlok.unixathome.org) Received: by nezlok.unixathome.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 8AE88AE4B4; Sun, 4 May 2003 00:10:01 -0700 (PDT) From: Dan Langille To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-Id: <20030504071001.8AE88AE4B4@nezlok.unixathome.org> Date: Sun, 4 May 2003 00:10:01 -0700 (PDT) Subject: The FreeBSD Diary: 2003-04-13 - 2003-05-03 X-BeenThere: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Gathering place for new users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 04 May 2003 07:10:03 -0000 The FreeBSD Diary contains a large number of practical examples and how-to guides. 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These are the articles posted during this period: 1-May : New FreshPorts release brings interesting challenges Coding, blacklists, and stunnel... http://freebsddiary.org/freshports-release-2003.04.29.php?2 -- Dan Langille - DVL Software Limited The FreeBSD Diary - http://www.FreeBSDDiary.org/ - practical examples FreshPorts - http://www.FreshPorts.org/ - the place for ports FreshSource - http://www.FreshSource.org/ - the place for source From owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Mon May 5 12:38:34 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D4BC337B401 for ; Mon, 5 May 2003 12:38:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [12.162.34.13] (dnsmom.beanstalk.net [12.162.34.13]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C249243F75 for ; Mon, 5 May 2003 12:38:33 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from PTFD9100@beanstalk.net) Received: from chiefnb (unverified [12.162.36.206]) by (Vircom SMTPRS 4.2.181) with ESMTP id ; Mon, 5 May 2003 15:31:40 -0400 From: "Michael W. Holdeman" Organization: PTFD To: "clayton rollins" , jesuscash@cox.net Date: Mon, 5 May 2003 15:38:07 -0400 User-Agent: KMail/1.5.1 References: In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200305051538.07956.PTFD9100@beanstalk.net> cc: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Another reason to like FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Gathering place for new users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 05 May 2003 19:38:35 -0000 I had FreeBSD 4.5 running on my laptop and dearly loved it. Wish I could go back! Problem was there was not enough interest from BSD users to get Netraverse to port Win4Lin to BSD. Any progress on this? I have 2 legacy Windoze apps I must run, and Win4Lin is the only way to run them ! Mike On Friday 02 May 2003 04:24 pm, clayton rollins wrote: > >on Fri, 02 May 2003 11:15:14 Jesus Cash wrote: > > > >Also it seems lately tha the major distributions of Linux are full of > >bloat, not getting to be much different than Windows. I have a P100 laptop > >I use for writing and some times some Nintendo emulation. I tried loading > >Red Hat 9 on it, stripping it down of course... But it wouldn't even let > > me do that. Just flat out said no way, your system sucks. > > > >Where I work there's a group of people some of us call the Cult of Gentoo. > >While one of them is just doing it to fit in (the guy can hardly tech > >Windows, which is our job), they all talk about about Gentoo's ease of use > >compared to the other distros and other *NIX kernels, their arguements > >inevitably lead to Gentoo's "emerge" function. I keep telling them that > >FreeBSD has two very similar systems of installing programs, and it does > > it about the same, downloading dependencies automatically. Not too sure > > if Gentoo patches itself either. Not to mention I didn't have to go > > through some huge set-up to get FreeBSD running AND FreeBSD actually > > detected my NIC, which Gentoo didn't. Another guy at work and I are just > > getting into FreeBSD and already we've had less issues than the guys that > > have been running Gentoo since they first put it out. One of these days > > I'm gonna log into "The Cult's" computers and change their desktop > > wallpapers to BSD centric images. > > > >Viva La Revolution! :P > > > >-B > > > >P.S. > >I know there may still be some linux ethusists out there on this list, > > this is nothing against you or Linux, it's against just some of the > > kernel's followers. I'm sure there are some who can argue this better > > than they can and beat me, but eh... I'm only defending my kernel of > > choice from the uninformed. After all, despite "The Cult's" presence, I > > still take all the Linux calls. > > (snip) > > If you want to be outright mean, try the logo from > http://www.linuxisforbitches.com/ (a site devoted to poking fun at LUsers > like your 'cult') > > Peace, > Clayton > > > _________________________________________________________________ > Help STOP SPAM with the new MSN 8 and get 2 months FREE* > http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-newbies > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-newbies-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" -- Michael W. Holdeman Why keep payin g for windoze?? Powered by Gentoo Linux 1.2 www.gentoo.org Linux Kernel 2.4.20 lowlatency, preemptable Windows Apps thanks to Win4Lin 4.0 www.netraverse.com From owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Mon May 5 13:23:51 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 62DB037B404 for ; Mon, 5 May 2003 13:23:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: from hotmail.com (oe66.law11.hotmail.com [64.4.16.201]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B2CA043FAF for ; Mon, 5 May 2003 13:23:50 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from meimi_1@hotmail.com) Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Mon, 5 May 2003 13:23:50 -0700 Received: from 144.173.6.77 by oe66.law11.hotmail.com with DAV; Mon, 05 May 2003 20:23:50 +0000 X-Originating-IP: [144.173.6.77] X-Originating-Email: [meimi_1@hotmail.com] From: "meimi" To: Date: Mon, 5 May 2003 21:22:28 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 05 May 2003 20:23:50.0723 (UTC) FILETIME=[3D836130:01C31344] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="big5" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.1 Subject: Add IP address to server X-BeenThere: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Gathering place for new users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 05 May 2003 20:23:51 -0000 Hello, I am new to FreeBSD and it is my first email to this list. Here is my question: My provider assigned some IPs to my server. How should I add them all = to my server? Please tell me as detail as possible, since I don't know = much now. Thanks meimi From owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Mon May 5 13:38:32 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D471A37B401 for ; Mon, 5 May 2003 13:38:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: from hotmail.com (f122.sea1.hotmail.com [207.68.163.122]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5DB7A43FB1 for ; Mon, 5 May 2003 13:38:32 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from crollins666@hotmail.com) Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Mon, 5 May 2003 13:38:32 -0700 Received: from 216.19.22.118 by sea1fd.sea1.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Mon, 05 May 2003 20:38:32 GMT X-Originating-IP: [216.19.22.118] X-Originating-Email: [crollins666@hotmail.com] From: "clayton rollins" To: PTFD9100@beanstalk.net Date: Mon, 05 May 2003 20:38:32 +0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 05 May 2003 20:38:32.0321 (UTC) FILETIME=[4AFC8F10:01C31346] cc: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Another reason to like FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Gathering place for new users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 05 May 2003 20:38:33 -0000 >On 5 May 2003 15:38:07 "Michael W. Holdeman" > >I had FreeBSD 4.5 running on my laptop and dearly loved it. Wish I could go >back! Problem was there was not enough interest from BSD users to get >Netraverse to port Win4Lin to BSD. >Any progress on this? I have 2 legacy Windoze apps I must run, and Win4Lin >is >the only way to run them ! > >Mike > (snipped) Hi Mike, I have never heard of win4lin, but you might find wine just as useful. Here's a snippet from the pkg-descr: (in case you don't have bsd up and running) "Wine is a Microsoft Windows 3.1/95/98/NT/2000 emulator running under Unix on i386 (and compatible) CPUs. It is still alpha quality, but is definitely making progress. Most applications already work, more or less, including even a couple of games." The port directory is emulators/wine. Hope it works for your app.s, Peace, Clayton _________________________________________________________________ Help STOP SPAM with the new MSN 8 and get 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail From owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Mon May 5 14:00:09 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 41E7C37B404 for ; Mon, 5 May 2003 14:00:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: from hotmail.com (f85.sea1.hotmail.com [207.68.163.85]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 85E2C43FA3 for ; Mon, 5 May 2003 14:00:04 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from crollins666@hotmail.com) Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Mon, 5 May 2003 14:00:04 -0700 Received: from 216.19.22.118 by sea1fd.sea1.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Mon, 05 May 2003 21:00:03 GMT X-Originating-IP: [216.19.22.118] X-Originating-Email: [crollins666@hotmail.com] From: "clayton rollins" To: meimi_1@hotmail.com Date: Mon, 05 May 2003 21:00:03 +0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 05 May 2003 21:00:04.0418 (UTC) FILETIME=[4D22EA20:01C31349] cc: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Add IP address to server X-BeenThere: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Gathering place for new users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 05 May 2003 21:00:09 -0000 >On 5 May 2003 21:22:28 "meimi" wrote: > >Hello, > I am new to FreeBSD and it is my first email to this list. > Here is my question: > My provider assigned some IPs to my server. How should I add them all to >my server? Please tell me as detail as possible, > since I don't know much >now. >Thanks >meimi > Hi Meimi, First off, welcome to freebsd. I'm sure you'll like it. (once you get all the little things ironed out...) Secondly, this particular list isn't really for answering/asking questions; you should re-post this question to freebsd-questions. All technical questions, no matter how newbie, go to -questions. (You'll find a lot more knowledgeable people there too.) This list is more just for newbies to chat about experiences with freebsd, etc. (Don't worry though, you're not the first person to post a question here... it's a common mistake.) Before sending, you might edit your post to contain a little more information regarding your specific net. layout, since you are asking for specific advice. (i.e. are you using a single IP for the outgoing end of your server? How does your subnet look? are you using a router, or having the server route using multiple NICs?) You may just need to configure NAT, but, I'm too much of a newbie to be sure. Peace, and good luck, Clayton _________________________________________________________________ STOP MORE SPAM with the new MSN 8 and get 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail From owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Mon May 5 14:14:50 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 32CF337B40E for ; Mon, 5 May 2003 14:14:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [12.162.34.13] (dnsmom.beanstalk.net [12.162.34.13]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B57D143FB1 for ; Mon, 5 May 2003 14:14:46 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from PTFD9100@beanstalk.net) Received: from chiefnb (unverified [12.162.36.206]) by (Vircom SMTPRS 4.2.181) with ESMTP id ; Mon, 5 May 2003 17:07:52 -0400 From: "Michael W. Holdeman" Organization: PTFD To: "clayton rollins" Date: Mon, 5 May 2003 17:14:25 -0400 User-Agent: KMail/1.5.1 References: In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200305051714.25747.PTFD9100@beanstalk.net> cc: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Another reason to like FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Gathering place for new users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 05 May 2003 21:14:50 -0000 Hi Clayton, Thanks, I was unable to get Wine ot run my apps, I realize they are making progress and I should retry soon. Win4lin is at www.netraverse.com Mike On Monday 05 May 2003 04:38 pm, clayton rollins wrote: > >On 5 May 2003 15:38:07 "Michael W. Holdeman" > > > >I had FreeBSD 4.5 running on my laptop and dearly loved it. Wish I could > > go back! Problem was there was not enough interest from BSD users to get > > Netraverse to port Win4Lin to BSD. > >Any progress on this? I have 2 legacy Windoze apps I must run, and Win4Lin > >is > >the only way to run them ! > > > >Mike > > (snipped) > > Hi Mike, > > I have never heard of win4lin, but you might find wine just as useful. > > Here's a snippet from the pkg-descr: (in case you don't have bsd up and > running) > "Wine is a Microsoft Windows 3.1/95/98/NT/2000 emulator running under Unix > on i386 (and compatible) CPUs. > > It is still alpha quality, but is definitely making progress. Most > applications already work, more or less, including even a couple of games." > > The port directory is emulators/wine. > > Hope it works for your app.s, > Peace, > Clayton > > > _________________________________________________________________ > Help STOP SPAM with the new MSN 8 and get 2 months FREE* > http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail -- Michael W. Holdeman Why keep payin g for windoze?? Powered by Gentoo Linux 1.2 www.gentoo.org Linux Kernel 2.4.20 lowlatency, preemptable Windows Apps thanks to Win4Lin 4.0 www.netraverse.com From owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Mon May 5 14:49:47 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 35B8B37B401 for ; Mon, 5 May 2003 14:49:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: from iota.root-servers.ch (iota.root-servers.ch [193.41.193.195]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id B314343F75 for ; Mon, 5 May 2003 14:49:45 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gabriel_ambuehl@buz.ch) Received: (qmail 77718 invoked from network); 5 May 2003 21:49:44 -0000 Received: from dclient80-218-106-179.hispeed.ch (HELO gaxp1800.root.li) (80.218.106.179) by 0 with SMTP; 5 May 2003 21:49:44 -0000 Date: Mon, 5 May 2003 23:51:49 +0200 From: Gabriel Ambuehl X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62i) Educational Organization: BUZ Internet Services X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <100729001484.20030505235149@buz.ch> To: "Michael W. Holdeman" In-Reply-To: <200305051714.25747.PTFD9100@beanstalk.net> References: <200305051714.25747.PTFD9100@beanstalk.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Subject: Re[2]: Another reason to like FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: gabriel_ambuehl@buz.ch List-Id: Gathering place for new users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 05 May 2003 21:49:47 -0000 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hello Michael, Monday, May 5, 2003, 11:14:25 PM, you wrote: > Hi Clayton, > Thanks, I was unable to get Wine ot run my apps, I realize they are making > progress and I should retry soon. > Win4lin is at www.netraverse.com You could look into vmware, that allows you to run Windows inside of FreeBSD. Best regards, Gabriel -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: PGP 6.0.2i iQEVAwUBPrbO6sZa2WpymlDxAQHWAAf/eCsaBStz7ff9qB4vhHe/zIbkJRygIO7+ qA+wQeR9pR6Zx9mhr6/IRPUCd6hqWG6Fuatc5XX56KIN8RZ9D4fvECbb01O+uYaT qAvYUhnJ7NxTNtzAoNXPQTcKlp4DvU3tFiLpAYFEqbPFoCgV5XHPwZJt5Pv0oe7G Eb3XgR8tg1mc3tXbtcd4C5MOLZ+fuOj6b5W9TuVeN30oE4TeAYfxozpj2t/0389S ehwc+Yamx8afhSl1cNrTug42M5Ph4lpqGQPD0qWvjADwDPJqHeiYThDPBHq96k6n hQdILY0RSXo73Huj5AzubyAYAJKrSmphqnoJt1UOmi/KERTMEv9M8Q== =Av3I -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Mon May 5 19:04:54 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3F08C37B404 for ; Mon, 5 May 2003 19:04:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: from hotmail.com (f88.sea1.hotmail.com [207.68.163.88]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B85E743F3F for ; Mon, 5 May 2003 19:04:53 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from crollins666@hotmail.com) Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Mon, 5 May 2003 19:04:53 -0700 Received: from 216.19.22.118 by sea1fd.sea1.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Tue, 06 May 2003 02:04:53 GMT X-Originating-IP: [216.19.22.118] X-Originating-Email: [crollins666@hotmail.com] From: "clayton rollins" To: PTFD9100@beanstalk.net Date: Tue, 06 May 2003 02:04:53 +0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 06 May 2003 02:04:53.0532 (UTC) FILETIME=[E24C3DC0:01C31373] cc: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Another reason to like FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Gathering place for new users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 06 May 2003 02:04:54 -0000 >On Mon, 5 May 2003 23:51:49 Gabriel Ambuehl wrote: > >Hello Michael, > >Monday, May 5, 2003, 11:14:25 PM, "Michael W. Holdeman" > > wrote: > > > Hi Clayton, > > Thanks, I was unable to get Wine ot run my apps, I realize they are > > making progress and I should retry soon. > > Win4lin is at www.netraverse.com > >You could look into vmware, that allows you to run Windows inside of >FreeBSD. > > > >Best regards, > Gabriel Sorry to hear the bad news Michael; luckily, according to Gabriel's post, hope is not lost entirely. (you can get the cvs of wine too, look here http://www.winehq.com/?page=cvs ) Failing all that, may I ask why you need the legacy app.s? Do you just have a ton of data in a certain format? Or just no suitable alternative available from ports? I only ask because, one of the first things I set out to do on my box was install wine and get my windows app.s working; I never really got around to it, because I consistently found similar or better software available through ports. In fact, I installed wine earlier today and really couldn't think of any app.s I wanted to run. (the flash thing kind of sucks..., otherwise my freebsd boxes are way more capable than any win. machine I had.) If the problem is data in some legacy format, you might check the conversion utilities in ports. Well, I hope you get it worked out. Or, that some crucial enhancement is coming to one of these projects sometime soon. Peace, Clayton PS. On a side note, I wonder if win4lin can be run via the compatibility libraries... Sounds contrived, but it may work... _________________________________________________________________ Add photos to your e-mail with MSN 8. Get 2 months FREE*. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/featuredemail From owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Tue May 6 13:27:04 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3383037B401 for ; Tue, 6 May 2003 13:27:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: from hotmail.com (f87.sea1.hotmail.com [207.68.163.87]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7B43643F3F for ; Tue, 6 May 2003 13:27:03 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from crollins666@hotmail.com) Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Tue, 6 May 2003 13:27:02 -0700 Received: from 216.19.22.118 by sea1fd.sea1.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Tue, 06 May 2003 20:27:01 GMT X-Originating-IP: [216.19.22.118] X-Originating-Email: [crollins666@hotmail.com] From: "clayton rollins" To: gabriel_ambuehl@buz.ch Date: Tue, 06 May 2003 20:27:01 +0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 06 May 2003 20:27:02.0070 (UTC) FILETIME=[D9FA5D60:01C3140D] cc: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Another reason to like FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Gathering place for new users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 06 May 2003 20:27:04 -0000 >On Tue, 6 May 2003 Gabriel Ambuehl > > >Hello clayton, > >Tuesday, May 6, 2003, 4:04:53 AM, clayton wrote: > > > PS. On a side note, I wonder if win4lin can be run via the compatibility > > libraries... Sounds contrived, but it may work... > > >IIRC, you can run Linux Flash with those. > >Best regards, > Gabriel > Thanks for the tip! I was just looking at a recent post on -questions that said there is a plugin available for mozilla too. Although I use konqueror usually, I may be using both now. (I have both installed anyways.) For now, though, I am plenty happy with the way it is. (I just got java to work; they're right, blackdown 1.3 is the best to use with konqueror...) I was more just using flash as an example that some multimedia, etc., apps are still somewhat hard to find/install/port. Peace, Clayton _________________________________________________________________ MSN 8 with e-mail virus protection service: 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/virus From owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Tue May 6 14:45:34 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7836D37B401 for ; Tue, 6 May 2003 14:45:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: from hotmail.com (f38.sea1.hotmail.com [207.68.163.38]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EFF1A43F85 for ; Tue, 6 May 2003 14:45:33 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from crollins666@hotmail.com) Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Tue, 6 May 2003 14:45:33 -0700 Received: from 216.19.22.118 by sea1fd.sea1.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Tue, 06 May 2003 21:45:33 GMT X-Originating-IP: [216.19.22.118] X-Originating-Email: [crollins666@hotmail.com] From: "clayton rollins" To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Date: Tue, 06 May 2003 21:45:33 +0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 06 May 2003 21:45:33.0763 (UTC) FILETIME=[D25DA930:01C31418] cc: gabriel_ambuehl@buz.ch Subject: Re: Another reason to like FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Gathering place for new users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 06 May 2003 21:45:34 -0000 >On Tue, 6 May 2003 Gabriel Ambuehl wrote: > > >Tuesday, May 6, 2003, 10:27:01 PM, "clayton rollins" > wrote: > > > For now, though, I am plenty happy with the way it is. (I just got > > java to work; they're right, blackdown 1.3 is the best to use with > > konqueror...) I was more just using flash as an example that some > >multimedia, etc., apps are still somewhat hard to find/install/port. > >Flash is quite probably the only client that is hard to get running >under FreeBSD. Mplayer works like a charm so that video of Gnutella >surely will play, even if it's WMV or Quicktime (assuming you run X86 >FreeBSD of course) ;-) > >Best regards, > Gabriel > I have to agree. MPlayer is definitely a trick little piece of software (once you RTFM a few times), and with proper codecs can play almost any video. (It doesn't play nice with artsd for some reason I have yet to figure out, and has caused about 5 total lockups in 6 months, but, beyond being a little buggy, I really like it.) aKtion, kde's builtin video player, has also come quite a ways in kde 3.1, and will play a lot of videos, though still not as many as mplayer. Gnutella rocks and always will (as long as the RIAA doesn't kill it). I use gtk-gnutella, which is easily as good as any of the clients on windows, and currently have upward of 1 gig of distfiles shared. (and some media, docs, snes roms, etc.) It's always a quick (sometimes) and easy way to get those when all the ftp servers are busy or down. And, since the files need to pass the checksum listed in the ports directory, there's no extra security risk. Peace, Clayton _________________________________________________________________ MSN 8 with e-mail virus protection service: 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/virus From owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Tue May 6 17:58:26 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F0E2C37B401 for ; Tue, 6 May 2003 17:58:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: from hotmail.com (f47.sea1.hotmail.com [207.68.163.47]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7C92643FAF for ; Tue, 6 May 2003 17:58:26 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from crollins666@hotmail.com) Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Tue, 6 May 2003 17:58:26 -0700 Received: from 216.19.22.118 by sea1fd.sea1.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Wed, 07 May 2003 00:58:26 GMT X-Originating-IP: [216.19.22.118] X-Originating-Email: [crollins666@hotmail.com] From: "clayton rollins" To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Date: Wed, 07 May 2003 00:58:26 +0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 07 May 2003 00:58:26.0308 (UTC) FILETIME=[C423E440:01C31433] cc: gabriel_ambuehl@buz.ch Subject: Re: Another reason to like FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Gathering place for new users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 07 May 2003 00:58:27 -0000 >On 7 May 2003 00:06:02 Gabriel Ambuehl wrote: > >Hello clayton, > >Tuesday, May 6, 2003, 11:45:33 PM, clayton wrote: > > I have to agree. MPlayer is definitely a trick little piece of software > > (once you RTFM a few times), and with proper codecs can play almost any > > video. (It doesn't play nice with artsd for some reason I have yet to >figure > out, and has caused about 5 total lockups in 6 months, but, beyond >being a > > little buggy, I really like it.) > >Mhh I didn't have to RTFM. Worked for me out of ports ;-) > See what happens when you use the ports system. (lol!) I forgot, that's one of the ones where I decided to circumvent ports, to keep on the bleeding edge. (That should also be applied to what I said about mild bugs in the code; it's not the stable release I'm supposed to be using.) Peace, Clayton _________________________________________________________________ STOP MORE SPAM with the new MSN 8 and get 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail From owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Wed May 7 00:07:03 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BE01937B401 for ; Wed, 7 May 2003 00:07:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gate.pinvest.cn.ua (pinvest.RBone.ci.net.ua [212.86.100.23]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A375443F85 for ; Wed, 7 May 2003 00:06:59 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from andrey@pinvest-ua.com) Received: from andrey.kiev.pinvest (andrey.pinvest [10.2.155.6]) h4776qkd062015 for ; Wed, 7 May 2003 10:06:54 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from andrey@pinvest-ua.com) Date: Wed, 7 May 2003 10:06:39 +0300 From: "Andrey V.Luzan" X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Personal Organization: JSB Privatinvest X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1711794389.20030507100639@pinvest-ua.com> To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Help me with mirror WWW please! X-BeenThere: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: "Andrey V.Luzan" List-Id: Gathering place for new users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 07 May 2003 07:07:04 -0000 I got www mirror from CVS. go to www and type "make" and see so: ===> en ===> en/security ===> en/commercial ===> en/docproj ===> en/news ===> en/news/1996 ===> en/news/1997 ===> en/news/1998 ===> en/news/1999 ===> en/news/2000 ===> en/news/2001 ===> en/news/status ===> en/news/1996 ===> en/news/1997 ===> en/news/1998 ===> en/news/1999 ===> en/news/2000 ===> en/news/2001 ===> en/news/status ===> en/advocacy ===> en/events ===> en/events/2002 ===> en/events/2002 ===> en/FAQ ===> en/handbook ===> en/internal ===> en/java ===> en/java/dists ===> en/java/docs ===> en/java/links ===> en/java/dists ===> en/java/docs ===> en/java/links ===> en/copyright ===> en/search ===> en/gallery ===> en/projects ===> en/projects/busdma ===> en/projects/c99 ===> en/projects/mips ===> en/projects/busdma ===> en/projects/c99 ===> en/projects/mips ===> en/prstats ===> en/platforms ===> en/platforms/ia64 ===> en/platforms/ia64 ===> en/releases ===> en/releases/1.1 ===> en/releases/1.1.5 ===> en/releases/2.0 ===> en/releases/2.0.5R ===> en/releases/2.1R ===> en/releases/2.1.5R ===> en/releases/2.1.6R ===> en/releases/2.1.7R ===> en/releases/2.2R ===> en/releases/2.2.1R ===> en/releases/2.2.2R ===> en/releases/2.2.5R ===> en/releases/2.2.6R ===> en/releases/2.2.7R ===> en/releases/2.2.8R ===> en/releases/3.0R ===> en/releases/3.1R ===> en/releases/3.2R ===> en/releases/3.3R ===> en/releases/3.4R ===> en/releases/3.5R ===> en/releases/4.0R ===> en/releases/4.1R ===> en/releases/4.1.1R ===> en/releases/4.2R ===> en/releases/4.3R ===> en/releases/4.4R ===> en/releases/4.5R ===> en/releases/4.6R ===> en/releases/4.6.2R ===> en/releases/4.7R ===> en/releases/4.8R ===> en/releases/5.0R ===> en/releases/5.0R/DP1 ===> en/releases/5.0R/DP2 ===> en/releases/5.0R/DP1 ===> en/releases/5.0R/DP2 ===> en/releases/5.1R ===> en/releases/5.2R ===> en/releases/1.1 ===> en/releases/1.1.5 ===> en/releases/2.0 ===> en/releases/2.0.5R ===> en/releases/2.1R ===> en/releases/2.1.5R ===> en/releases/2.1.6R ===> en/releases/2.1.7R ===> en/releases/2.2R ===> en/releases/2.2.1R ===> en/releases/2.2.2R ===> en/releases/2.2.5R ===> en/releases/2.2.6R ===> en/releases/2.2.7R ===> en/releases/2.2.8R ===> en/releases/3.0R ===> en/releases/3.1R ===> en/releases/3.2R ===> en/releases/3.3R ===> en/releases/3.4R ===> en/releases/3.5R ===> en/releases/4.0R ===> en/releases/4.1R ===> en/releases/4.1.1R ===> en/releases/4.2R ===> en/releases/4.3R ===> en/releases/4.4R ===> en/releases/4.5R ===> en/releases/4.6R ===> en/releases/4.6.2R ===> en/releases/4.7R ===> en/releases/4.8R ===> en/releases/5.0R ===> en/releases/5.0R/DP1 ===> en/releases/5.0R/DP2 ===> en/releases/5.0R/DP1 ===> en/releases/5.0R/DP2 ===> en/releases/5.1R ===> en/releases/5.2R ===> en/releng ===> en/smp ===> en/kse ===> en/gnome /usr/local/bin/xsltproc -o index.html /usr/local/www/freebsd/www/en/gnome/index.xsl /usr/local/www/freebsd/www/en/gnome/news.xml file:///usr/local/share/xml/catalog:1: error: Start tag expected, '<' not found CATALOG "dtd/catalog" ^ /usr/local/bin/tidy -i -m -raw -preserve -f /dev/null -asxml index.html *** Error code 1 (ignored) /usr/local/bin/xsltproc -o news.rdf /usr/local/www/freebsd/www/en/gnome/rss.xsl /usr/local/www/freebsd/www/en/gnome/news.xml /usr/local/bin/tidy -xml -wrap 0 -i -m -raw -preserve -f /dev/null -asxml news.rdf ===> en/gnome/docs ===> en/gnome/images ===> en/gnome/docs ===> en/gnome/images ===> en/donations ===> en/ports cd /usr/local/www/freebsd/www/en/ports; make -f /usr/local/www/freebsd/www/en/ports/Makefile.inc0 all /usr/bin/sed -e 's///' index.sgml | /usr/bin/env SGML_CATALOG_FILES= /usr/local/bin/sgmlnorm -d -c /usr/local/share/sgml/html/catalog -D /usr/local/www/freebsd/www/en/ports > index.html || (/bin/rm -f index.html && false) /usr/local/bin/sgmlnorm:0:16:4:E: end tag for "UL" which is not finished *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/local/www/freebsd/www/en/ports. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/local/www/freebsd/www/en/ports. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/local/www/freebsd/www/en. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/local/www/freebsd/www. What I do wrong? P.S. FreeBSD 4.8 STABLE docproj = docproj-1.11 From owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Wed May 7 02:56:50 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DB78A37B401 for ; Wed, 7 May 2003 02:56:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: from wdm.pl (wdm.pl [80.244.136.50]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id B999F43FA3 for ; Wed, 7 May 2003 02:56:48 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gavroche@wdm.pl) Received: (qmail 62126 invoked by uid 1121); 7 May 2003 10:07:49 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO gavroche.biz) (gavroche@80.244.136.34) by 0 with SMTP; 7 May 2003 10:07:49 -0000 Date: Wed, 7 May 2003 11:55:42 +0200 From: Dominik =?ISO-8859-2?Q?=AFy=B3a?= To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Message-Id: <20030507115542.1d821add.gavroche@wdm.pl> In-Reply-To: References: X-Mailer: Sylpheed version 0.8.10claws13 (GTK+ 1.2.10; i386-debian-linux-gnu) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Add IP address to server X-BeenThere: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Gathering place for new users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 07 May 2003 09:56:51 -0000 On Mon, 5 May 2003 21:22:28 +0100 "meimi" wrote: > Hello, > I am new to FreeBSD and it is my first email to this list. > Here is my question: > My provider assigned some IPs to my server. How should I add them all to my server? Please tell me as detail as possible, since I don't know much now. > Thanks > meimi > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-newbies > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-newbies-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > In rc.conf: #main ip addres ifconfig_fxp0="inet 213.216.79.2 netmask 255.255.255.192" #rest of ips ifconfig_fxp0_alias0="inet 213.216.79.15 netmask 255.255.255.255" ifconfig_fxp0_alias1="inet 213.216.79.17 netmask 255.255.255.255" ifconfig_fxp0_alias2="inet 213.216.79.18 netmask 255.255.255.255" ifconfig_fxp0_alias3="inet 213.216.79.19 netmask 255.255.255.255" From owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Wed May 7 04:52:40 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 453E437B401 for ; Wed, 7 May 2003 04:52:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: from smtp805.mail.sc5.yahoo.com (smtp805.mail.sc5.yahoo.com [66.163.168.184]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id D141E43F3F for ; Wed, 7 May 2003 04:52:39 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from decypher13@sbcglobal.net) Received: from adsl-64-109-56-125.dsl.ipltin.ameritech.net (HELO sbcglobal.net) (decypher13@sbcglobal.net@64.109.56.125 with plain) by smtp-sbc-v1.mail.vip.sc5.yahoo.com with SMTP; 7 May 2003 11:52:39 -0000 Message-ID: <3EB8FD56.9010205@sbcglobal.net> Date: Wed, 07 May 2003 07:34:30 -0500 From: Justin Nichols User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.0; en-US; rv:1.4a) Gecko/20030401 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: wireless question X-BeenThere: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Gathering place for new users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 07 May 2003 11:52:40 -0000 this is probably the epitomy newbie ignorance, but i was just wondering if i could get wireless kernel support out of the retail distribution of 4.6 stable. I didn't see it as a kernel config option the couple of times i did it. sadly all i need is a yes or no, but anymore info would be good (though i don't know what else would help me). From owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Wed May 7 05:32:07 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2335337B401 for ; Wed, 7 May 2003 05:32:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: from anchor-post-31.mail.demon.net (anchor-post-31.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.89]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6622B43F85 for ; Wed, 7 May 2003 05:32:06 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kevin@caomhin.demon.co.uk) Received: from caomhin.demon.co.uk ([62.49.21.186]) by anchor-post-31.mail.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1) id 19DO5d-0003VG-0V for freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG; Wed, 07 May 2003 13:32:05 +0100 Message-ID: Date: Wed, 7 May 2003 13:29:53 +0100 To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org From: Kevin Golding References: <3EB8FD56.9010205@sbcglobal.net> In-Reply-To: <3EB8FD56.9010205@sbcglobal.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Turnpike Integrated Version 5.01 U Subject: Re: wireless question X-BeenThere: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Gathering place for new users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 07 May 2003 12:32:07 -0000 In article <3EB8FD56.9010205@sbcglobal.net>, Justin Nichols writes >this is probably the epitomy newbie ignorance, but i was just wondering >if i could get wireless kernel support out of the retail distribution of >4.6 stable. I didn't see it as a kernel config option the couple of >times i did it. sadly all i need is a yes or no, but anymore info would >be good (though i don't know what else would help me). Yes ;-) It really depends on what chipset you've got but there are a few choices tucked away in /usr/src/sys/i386/conf/GENERIC - start by looking for the wi driver (which is the one I can remember) and the others will be nearby. After that keep going until you get stuck, that's about the stage you check the handbook then ask -questions :-) Kevin -- kevin@caomhin.demon.co.uk From owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Wed May 7 07:25:42 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 78AF737B405 for ; Wed, 7 May 2003 07:25:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: from web40909.mail.yahoo.com (web40909.mail.yahoo.com [66.218.78.206]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id DC89543F93 for ; Wed, 7 May 2003 07:25:39 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from davemjones13@yahoo.com) Message-ID: <20030507142539.5340.qmail@web40909.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [129.55.200.20] by web40909.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Wed, 07 May 2003 07:25:39 PDT Date: Wed, 7 May 2003 07:25:39 -0700 (PDT) From: dave jones To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Subject: Fwd: wireless question X-BeenThere: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: dmj111@psualum.com List-Id: Gathering place for new users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 07 May 2003 14:25:42 -0000 Justin [this does contain a tidbit of information directly related to your question... but a good part is for the general audience] --- Justin Nichols wrote: > this is probably the epitomy newbie ignorance, but i was just > wondering > if i could get wireless kernel support out of the retail distribution > of > 4.6 stable. I didn't see it as a kernel config option the couple of > times i did it. sadly all i need is a yes or no, but anymore info > would > be good (though i don't know what else would help me). > Someone else already answered yes, but I have a newbie tip I just relearned the hard way. I was having a hard time finding out which wifi cards are supported by fbsd. I looked around for some time, reading lots of good stuff, but never quite sure which cards worked with the wi driver. Doooh! man wi gives a list of cards. You might want to try looking at it or the other wireless drivers (an, ray, awi,?) I guess the moral is to try to go straight to the source. Sometimes I have a hard time with man pages, but usually if I do not look at them, they contain exactly what I wanted to find. good luck! dave __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Search - Faster. Easier. Bingo. http://search.yahoo.com From owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Wed May 7 07:59:24 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E4E4A37B401 for ; Wed, 7 May 2003 07:59:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail.cordis.lu (mail.cordis.lu [212.190.217.57]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 19B5443FA3 for ; Wed, 7 May 2003 07:59:23 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from a.carter@cordis.lu) Received: from mailsvr.intrasoft.lu (mail.intrasoft.lu [212.190.217.251]) by mail.cordis.lu (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id h47FBa9g007345 for ; Wed, 7 May 2003 17:11:36 +0200 Received: by mail.intrasoft.lu with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2656.59) id ; Wed, 7 May 2003 16:55:17 +0200 Received: from 212.190.217.170 ([212.190.217.170]) by mailsvr.intrasoft.lu with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2656.59) id JS23CNNP; Wed, 7 May 2003 16:55:15 +0200 From: CARTER Anthony To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Organization: Intrasoft Date: Wed, 7 May 2003 16:59:52 +0200 User-Agent: KMail/1.5.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200305071659.52878.a.carter@intrasoft.lu> X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-105.8 required=4.2 tests=USER_AGENT_KMAIL,USER_IN_WHITELIST version=2.53 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.53 (1.174.2.15-2003-03-30-exp) Subject: Login & kdm, sort of X-BeenThere: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Gathering place for new users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 07 May 2003 14:59:25 -0000 My freebsd-current is working fine, just latest cutting edge build :D However, since a number of builds ago (in fact all since 5.0-Current around Feb) I have a little, although not really bothering, error. I don't see it unless I switch back to console mode from my kde login screen. I get this: intra241 kdm[539]: Abnormal helper termination, code 0, signal 5 Any idea what this is? As I said, it doesn't seem to do anything bad to my system, well as far as I know anyway... Any clue could be helpful, thanks, Anthony From owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Wed May 7 14:11:42 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 22EB237B401 for ; Wed, 7 May 2003 14:11:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mxbackup.webpartner.dk (mxbackup.webpartner.dk [195.184.96.22]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5F39143FAF for ; Wed, 7 May 2003 14:11:41 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nobody@victory.webpartner.dk) Received: from victory.webpartner.dk (victory.webpartner.dk [195.184.96.46]) by mxbackup.webpartner.dk (Postfix) with ESMTP id BD7A6DEE31 for ; Wed, 7 May 2003 23:11:38 +0200 (CEST) Received: (from nobody@localhost) by victory.webpartner.dk (8.12.6/8.12.3/Submit) id h47LBZO2094174; Wed, 7 May 2003 23:11:35 +0200 (CEST) Date: Wed, 7 May 2003 23:11:35 +0200 (CEST) Message-Id: <200305072111.h47LBZO2094174@victory.webpartner.dk> To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org From: thehidden@ztinkyfingaz.dk MIME-Version: 1.0 Cc: X-Mailer: NuralStorm Webmail Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: edimax ethernet nic X-BeenThere: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Gathering place for new users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 07 May 2003 21:11:42 -0000 Hi! I\'ve just got a new ethernet card, Edimax EN-9130-TXA, so I can boot over floppy and ftp, but I just thought of checking the hardware notes for if it was a supported card, and It wasn\'t mentioned. So I thought of taking a google search, and RTFM again, and the only info associated with Edimax I found was the following \"... Don\'t work/test PC Cards ... Edimax EP-4101 16-bit PCMCIA 10/100 ether card ... \" from http://www.linkclub.or.jp/~clover/cis/ So if anyone knows if I can use Edimax EN-9130-TXA, I would be grateful to know that too, before I try installing. I cannot return it after it is unpacked. Greets and thanks, thehidden From owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Wed May 7 15:29:13 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 29AAD37B401 for ; Wed, 7 May 2003 15:29:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: from joloxbox.joshualokken.com (12-225-249-250.client.attbi.com [12.225.249.250]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C9E1443FCB for ; Wed, 7 May 2003 15:29:08 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from joshua@joshualokken.com) Received: from joshualokken.com (joloxbox.joshualokken.com [10.0.0.2]) h47MSiU2016839; Wed, 7 May 2003 15:28:49 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from joshua@joshualokken.com) Date: Wed, 7 May 2003 15:28:44 -0700 From: Joshua Lokken To: "Michael W. Holdeman" Message-ID: <20030507222844.GB16276@joloxbox.joshualokken.com> Mail-Followup-To: "Michael W. Holdeman" , freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org References: <200305051538.07956.PTFD9100@beanstalk.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <200305051538.07956.PTFD9100@beanstalk.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i Organization: little to none X-OS: FreeBSD joloxbox.joshualokken.com 4.8-STABLE i386 cc: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Another reason to like FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Gathering place for new users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 07 May 2003 22:29:13 -0000 * Michael W. Holdeman (PTFD9100@beanstalk.net) wrote: ==> I had FreeBSD 4.5 running on my laptop and dearly loved it. Wish I could go ==> back! Problem was there was not enough interest from BSD users to get ==> Netraverse to port Win4Lin to BSD. ==> Any progress on this? I have 2 legacy Windoze apps I must run, and Win4Lin is ==> the only way to run them ! ==> ==> Mike ==> ==> You seem pretty sure, so you may have already considered it, but vmware may do what you're looking for. Certainly a lot of over- head, though to run 2 win apps. -- Joshua From owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Wed May 7 16:29:03 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DAB0F37B401 for ; Wed, 7 May 2003 16:29:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mtiwmhc13.worldnet.att.net (mtiwmhc13.worldnet.att.net [204.127.131.117]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E8C5643F93 for ; Wed, 7 May 2003 16:29:02 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from j.e.drews@worldnet.att.net) Received: from 89.st-louis-57-60ev.mo.dial-access.att.net ([12.85.158.89]) by mtiwmhc13.worldnet.att.net (mtiwmhc13) with SMTP id <200305072329011130034utfe>; Wed, 7 May 2003 23:29:01 +0000 From: Jonathan Drews To: FreeBSD Date: Wed, 7 May 2003 18:33:30 -0500 User-Agent: KMail/1.5.1 References: <200305071659.52878.a.carter@intrasoft.lu> In-Reply-To: <200305071659.52878.a.carter@intrasoft.lu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200305071833.30080.j.e.drews@worldnet.att.net> Subject: Re: Login & kdm, sort of X-BeenThere: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Gathering place for new users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 07 May 2003 23:29:04 -0000 On Wednesday 07 May 2003 09:59, CARTER Anthony wrote: > However, since a number of builds ago (in fact all since 5.0-Current around > Feb) I have a little, although not really bothering, error. > intra241 kdm[539]: Abnormal helper termination, code 0, signal 5 Hi Anthony I get this in 4.8 too. I asked on #kde-freebsd and they say that it is harmless. It is just a spurious warning. Kind regards Jonathan From owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Wed May 7 18:22:13 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 67F8637B401 for ; Wed, 7 May 2003 18:22:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: from web10506.mail.yahoo.com (web10506.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.130.156]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 6BD9243F93 for ; Wed, 7 May 2003 18:22:12 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from frebhed@yahoo.com.au) Message-ID: <20030508012212.14005.qmail@web10506.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [202.76.136.20] by web10506.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Thu, 08 May 2003 11:22:12 EST Date: Thu, 8 May 2003 11:22:12 +1000 (EST) From: =?iso-8859-1?q?Frederick=20Johnson?= To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <200305072111.h47LBZO2094174@victory.webpartner.dk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Subject: Re: edimax ethernet nic X-BeenThere: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Gathering place for new users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 08 May 2003 01:22:13 -0000 --- thehidden@ztinkyfingaz.dk wrote: > > > Hi! > > I\'ve just got a new ethernet card, Edimax EN-9130-TXA, so I can boot over > floppy and ftp, but I just thought of checking the hardware notes for if it > was a supported card, and It wasn\'t mentioned. So I thought of taking a > google search, and RTFM again, and the only info associated with Edimax I > found was the following > \"... Don\'t work/test PC Cards > > ... > Edimax EP-4101 16-bit PCMCIA 10/100 ether card > ... \" > > from http://www.linkclub.or.jp/~clover/cis/ > > So if anyone knows if I can use Edimax EN-9130-TXA, I would be grateful to > know that too, before I try installing. I cannot return it after it is > unpacked. This may help (?) http://www.netbsd.org/cgi-bin/query-pr-single.pl?number=15666 Fred ===== worry is a missuse of imagination http://mobile.yahoo.com.au - Yahoo! Mobile - Check & compose your email via SMS on your Telstra or Vodafone mobile. From owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Thu May 8 07:52:47 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 110D337B401 for ; Thu, 8 May 2003 07:52:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: from f13.mail.ru (f13.mail.ru [194.67.57.43]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DF9CF43F85 for ; Thu, 8 May 2003 07:52:43 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from quam@mail.ru) Received: from mail by f13.mail.ru with local id 19DmlG-000JZI-00 for freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org; Thu, 08 May 2003 18:52:42 +0400 Received: from [147.32.127.204] by koi.mail.ru with HTTP; Thu, 08 May 2003 18:52:42 +0400 From: "Scoobie Ray" To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: mPOP Web-Mail 2.19 X-Originating-IP: 147.32.118.109 via proxy [147.32.127.204] Date: Thu, 08 May 2003 18:52:42 +0400 In-Reply-To: <20030507190138.C6F2337B401@hub.freebsd.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=koi8-r Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-Id: Subject: FreeBSD 5.0 & device dsp X-BeenThere: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Scoobie Ray List-Id: Gathering place for new users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 08 May 2003 14:52:47 -0000 Hi all! I have FreeBSD Release: 5.0. I can't make device dsp. In FAQ is wrote: # cd /dev # sh MAKEDEV snd0 Note: You can omit this step if you are running FreeBSD 5.0-RELEASE or newer with devfs(5) enabled. I have wrote to command line: # devfs rule add path dsp mode 666 I have had this message: devfs rule: ioctl DEVFSIO_RADD: Input/output error Can you help me please? From owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Thu May 8 10:01:46 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 379F237B401 for ; Thu, 8 May 2003 10:01:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: from thor.acuson.com (thor.acuson.com [157.226.71.79]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 758C243F93 for ; Thu, 8 May 2003 10:01:45 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from DavidJohnson@Siemens.com) Received: from mvaexch02.acuson.com (mvaexch02.acuson.com [157.226.230.209]) by thor.acuson.com (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 (built Feb 21 2002)) with ESMTP id <0HEK00EPVV9CZ1@thor.acuson.com> for freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org; Thu, 08 May 2003 10:00:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: by mvaexch02.acuson.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Thu, 08 May 2003 09:50:53 -0700 Received: from dhcp-46-117.acuson.com ([157.226.46.117]) by mvaexch01.acuson.com with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2653.13) id JQ7MJAFN; Thu, 08 May 2003 09:52:18 -0700 Content-return: allowed Date: Thu, 08 May 2003 10:01:13 -0700 From: Johnson David In-reply-to: To: Scoobie Ray , freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Message-id: <200305081001.13470.DavidJohnson@Siemens.com> Organization: Siemens Medical Systems MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=koi8-r Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-disposition: inline User-Agent: KMail/1.5.1 References: Subject: Re: FreeBSD 5.0 & device dsp X-BeenThere: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Gathering place for new users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 08 May 2003 17:01:46 -0000 On Thursday 08 May 2003 07:52 am, Scoobie Ray wrote: > Hi all! > I have FreeBSD Release: 5.0. I can't make device dsp. Does your kernel have an audio driver compiled in? It isn't by default. The pcm device covers most sound cards. If it is compiled in, then redirect this question towards the -questions list, along with any relevant output from dmesg. David From owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Thu May 8 19:51:25 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1035D37B401 for ; Thu, 8 May 2003 19:51:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lug.stikom.edu (lug.stikom.edu [202.155.19.6]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id DC0E443F3F for ; Thu, 8 May 2003 19:51:23 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from zainal@lug.stikom.edu) Received: (qmail 16156 invoked by uid 2043); 9 May 2003 02:52:28 -0000 Date: 9 May 2003 02:52:28 -0000 Message-ID: <20030509025228.16155.qmail@lug.stikom.edu> To: freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-URL: http://www.freebsd.org/projects/newbies.html X-Mailer: Lynx, Version 2.8.3rel.1 X-Personal_name: Zainal Abidin From: zainal@lug.stikom.edu Subject: http://www.freebsd.org/projects/newbies.html X-BeenThere: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Gathering place for new users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 09 May 2003 02:51:25 -0000 howto join The NewBie mailing-list thx jh@ From owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Thu May 8 20:19:56 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4BBB537B401 for ; Thu, 8 May 2003 20:19:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ms-smtp-01.tampabay.rr.com (ms-smtp-01.tampabay.rr.com [65.32.1.43]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6EE9C43FBF for ; Thu, 8 May 2003 20:19:55 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from xanith@tampabay.rr.com) Received: from xn1 (242853hfc76.tampabay.rr.com [24.28.53.76]) h493JsCO022999 for ; Thu, 8 May 2003 23:19:54 -0400 (EDT) From: "xanith" To: Date: Thu, 8 May 2003 23:19:54 -0400 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <20030509025228.16155.qmail@lug.stikom.edu> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Subject: RE: http://www.freebsd.org/projects/newbies.html X-BeenThere: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Gathering place for new users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 09 May 2003 03:19:56 -0000 You're on the mailing list it seems :P -xanith -----Original Message----- From: owner-freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org [mailto:owner-freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org]On Behalf Of zainal@lug.stikom.edu Sent: Thursday, May 08, 2003 10:52 PM To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Subject: http://www.freebsd.org/projects/newbies.html howto join The NewBie mailing-list thx jh@ _______________________________________________ freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-newbies To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-newbies-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Fri May 9 19:10:06 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A8F3737B401 for ; Fri, 9 May 2003 19:10:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2E39243FE5 for ; Fri, 9 May 2003 19:10:06 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from sue@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (sue@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h4A2A6Up063881 for ; Fri, 9 May 2003 19:10:06 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from sue@freefall.freebsd.org) Received: (from sue@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.12.9/8.12.9/Submit) id h4A2A5sO063879 for freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org; Fri, 9 May 2003 19:10:05 -0700 (PDT) Date: Fri, 9 May 2003 19:10:05 -0700 (PDT) From: Sue Blake Message-Id: <200305100210.h4A2A5sO063879@freefall.freebsd.org> To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Subject: FreeBSD Newbies FAK X-BeenThere: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Gathering place for new users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 10 May 2003 02:10:07 -0000 FreeBSD-Newbies First Aid Kit This is a regular posting to the FreeBSD-Newbies mailing list. 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Examples include helping each other to learn more on our own, finding and using resources, problem solving techniques, how to seek help elsewhere, how to use mailing lists and which lists to use, general chat, making mistakes, boasting, sharing ideas, stories, moral (but not technical) support, and taking an active part in the FreeBSD community. We take our problems and support questions to freebsd-questions, and use freebsd-newbies to meet others who are doing the same things that we do as newbies. We can help people to use the FreeBSD mailing lists and resources, or to interact more productively with the broader FreeBSD community. These are not support questions, and not technical, so we deal with them here. Everyone can help with these new user orientation requests. One of the things we do together is learn more effective ways to find help when we need it. Here are some suggestions: When something doesn't work the way you expect 1. First look at the errata for your release of FreeBSD at http://www.FreeBSD.ORG/releases/ for the latest information and security advisories. 2. Search the Handbook, FAQ, and mail archives at http://www.FreeBSD.ORG/search/search.html 3. If you still have a question or problem, collect the output of `uname -a' and of any relevant program(s) and email your question to FreeBSD-questions@FreeBSD.ORG. Mailing lists When you have a problem that you can't solve by yourself, there's only one support mailing list and that's FreeBSD-questions@FreeBSD.ORG. FreeBSD-questions helps with installation and basic setup as well as more general and advanced questions. You don't have to actually join freebsd-questions before asking a question there. Replies to your question will normally be sent to you personally as well as to the list. Just make sure you have read and followed the guidelines for posting, because you might find them different to what you're used to. If you do subscribe to freebsd-questions you'll have the advantage of seeing all of the recent questions and their answers. Before you post to FreeBSD-questions, please read the guidelines at http://www.lemis.com/questions.html Many of the people who answer FreeBSD-questions are very knowledgeable, but they get frustrated when they get questions which are difficult to understand. http://www.lemis.com/email.html is worth reading too. If you're not sure that you can follow these guidelines, come back and ask the other newbies for help on how to post an effective question to the support mailing list. Maybe your question has been asked before. If you search the mailing list archives at http://www.freebsd.org/search/search.html first you might get the answer right away. It's always worth trying. Other mailing lists (http://www.freebsd.org/handbook/eresources.html#ERESOURCES-CHARTERS) cover specialised areas and many are more developer-oriented. You'll need to read their charters carefully before participating, but it's probably a good idea to ask on either -newbies or -questions for advice about where to post a more specialised question. FreeBSD-announce is a very low volume read-only list for occasional announcements, such as notice of new releases, and the Really Quick Newsletter. It's worth subscribing to FreeBSD-announce too. Manuals You'll always be expected to show that you have made some effort to use the available documentation before asking for help. That's not always as easy as it sounds! If you know what documentation you need but can't locate it, send a brief query to FreeBSD-questions. If you don't know what you need, always have trouble finding it, or can't make any sense of it when you do, ask some patient newbies to steer you in the right direction. Anyone interested in writing or reviewing documentation for FreeBSD is encouraged to join the FreeBSD Documentation Project. Details are at http://www.freebsd.org/docproj/docproj.html Other resources A resource list is available at http://www.freebsd.org/projects/newbies.html to help new and inexperienced FreeBSD users to find relevant information quickly. It includes books, on line documents and tutorials, and links to web pages that other newbies have found useful for learning. If you have a suggestion for good material to be included, please write to freebsd-newbies and tell us about it. But I have seen people asking questions here! It is quite common for people to send the wrong kind of post to a mailing list. Because we're newbies it'll certainly happen here from time to time. The best thing to do if you see a message that doesn't belong on a list is to ignore it. There's always someone around whose job it is to sort these problems out privately. The posts to the lists go straight through, whatever their content. It is going to be confusing for a little while because we're all newbies so we all make mistakes. That's OK. One thing we're going to see a fair bit is people posting questions, believing they're doing the right thing by posting here as newbies, not realising how it works. If someone answers those questions the situation will snowball. There's nothing wrong with helping someone to redirect their question to freebsd-questions, but please do so gently. There's nothing wrong with the occasional mistake either. So all questions, requests for help, etc still go to freebsd-questions as usual. Ours is more of a discussion group, a place where newbies can relax with other newbies and focus more on our successes than on our temporary imperfection. We can talk about things here that are not allowed on freebsd-questions. We're also a bit freer to make the mistakes that we need to make in order to learn. _________________________________________________________________ Mailing list membership To Subscribe to FreeBSD-Newbies: Use the easy form at http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-newbies to subscribe to the FreeBSD-Newbies mailing list, or to change your subscription details if you are already a member. To Unsubscribe from FreeBSD-Newbies: To stop receiving list emails, simply follow the unsubscribe link that appears at the bottom of each email you receive from the mailing list. Mail sent to freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org is distributed to all members of the FreeBSD-Newbies mailing list. _________________________________________________________________ From owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Sat May 10 12:50:42 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C72B737B401 for ; Sat, 10 May 2003 12:50:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: from smtp807.mail.sc5.yahoo.com (smtp807.mail.sc5.yahoo.com [66.163.168.186]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 222EA43FBF for ; Sat, 10 May 2003 12:50:40 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from decypher13@sbcglobal.net) Received: from adsl-67-38-32-43.dsl.ipltin.ameritech.net (HELO sbcglobal.net) (decypher13@sbcglobal.net@67.38.32.43 with plain) by smtp-sbc-v1.mail.vip.sc5.yahoo.com with SMTP; 10 May 2003 19:50:39 -0000 Message-ID: <3EBD53CE.6050008@sbcglobal.net> Date: Sat, 10 May 2003 14:32:30 -0500 From: buck User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.0; en-US; rv:1.4b) Gecko/20030507 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: wireless qs X-BeenThere: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Gathering place for new users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 10 May 2003 19:50:43 -0000 I purchased bsd 4.6 from my local retailer, and was wanting to get the wireless support option in the kernel, but can't find it during installation. i don't know if it makes a difference, but i am using a d-link dwl 520+. Like i said i am still trying to get started, so my first objective is to get it connected to the internet. So, all i think i need right now is wireless support. any help is greatly appreciated. From owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Sat May 10 14:11:05 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EC27D37B401 for ; Sat, 10 May 2003 14:11:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rwcrmhc51.attbi.com (rwcrmhc51.attbi.com [204.127.198.38]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3350E43F93 for ; Sat, 10 May 2003 14:11:05 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from DougB@freebsd.org) Received: from master.dougb.net (12-234-22-23.client.attbi.com[12.234.22.23]) by attbi.com (rwcrmhc51) with SMTP id <2003051021110405100buqmte>; Sat, 10 May 2003 21:11:04 +0000 Date: Sat, 10 May 2003 14:11:03 -0700 (PDT) From: Doug Barton To: buck In-Reply-To: <3EBD53CE.6050008@sbcglobal.net> Message-ID: <20030510140728.A5056@znfgre.qbhto.arg> References: <3EBD53CE.6050008@sbcglobal.net> Organization: http://www.FreeBSD.org/ X-message-flag: Outlook -- Not just for spreading viruses anymore! MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII cc: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Subject: Re: wireless qs X-BeenThere: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Gathering place for new users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 10 May 2003 21:11:06 -0000 First off, this list is for new user experiences, not questions. You'll want to ask your questions on freebsd-questions. On Sat, 10 May 2003, buck wrote: > I purchased bsd 4.6 from my local retailer, and was wanting to get the > wireless support option in the kernel, but can't find it during > installation. i don't know if it makes a difference, but i am using a > d-link dwl 520+. This card is supported in the current version of the wi driver, so if the isntaller asks you to configure a network card, say yes, and look for wi0 in the menu. If that doesn't work, you should ask on -questions. Good luck, Doug -- This .signature sanitized for your protection From owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Sat May 10 15:21:52 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CCBFF37B405 for ; Sat, 10 May 2003 15:21:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ms-smtp-01.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-01.texas.rr.com [24.93.36.229]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A5D8A43FE0 for ; Sat, 10 May 2003 15:21:50 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from xeon@austin.rr.com) Received: from austin.rr.com (cs6668188-147.austin.rr.com [66.68.188.147]) h4AMLn8b020379 for ; Sat, 10 May 2003 17:21:49 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <3EBD7B59.90908@austin.rr.com> Date: Sat, 10 May 2003 17:21:13 -0500 From: Xeon User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.4b) Gecko/20030507 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org References: <3EBD53CE.6050008@sbcglobal.net> <20030510140728.A5056@znfgre.qbhto.arg> In-Reply-To: <20030510140728.A5056@znfgre.qbhto.arg> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: wireless qs X-BeenThere: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Gathering place for new users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 10 May 2003 22:21:52 -0000 Doug Barton wrote: > This card is supported in the current version of the wi driver, so if the > isntaller asks you to configure a network card, say yes, and look for wi0 > in the menu. If that doesn't work, you should ask on -questions. No! Please don't send him on a quest (similar to one I went on). It is absolutely NOT supported right now. You are thinking of the DWL-520 NOT the DWL-520+ which is a completely different chipset. There are no drivers for any OS other than Windows for it right now. A project was set up a long time ago to reverse engineer it at http://acx100.sf.net/ , but has yet to release code (it's been 3 or so months now too)... Complain to D-Link, because it's beginning to look like this card is never going to be supported. -Xeon From owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Sat May 10 15:30:17 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8D74237B401 for ; Sat, 10 May 2003 15:30:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rwcrmhc53.attbi.com (rwcrmhc53.attbi.com [204.127.198.39]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1E1D043F75 for ; Sat, 10 May 2003 15:30:17 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from DougB@freebsd.org) Received: from master.dougb.net (12-234-22-23.client.attbi.com[12.234.22.23]) by attbi.com (rwcrmhc53) with SMTP id <2003051022301605300iv2ose>; Sat, 10 May 2003 22:30:16 +0000 Date: Sat, 10 May 2003 15:30:16 -0700 (PDT) From: Doug Barton To: Xeon In-Reply-To: <3EBD7B59.90908@austin.rr.com> Message-ID: <20030510152939.Q5056@znfgre.qbhto.arg> References: <3EBD53CE.6050008@sbcglobal.net> <20030510140728.A5056@znfgre.qbhto.arg> <3EBD7B59.90908@austin.rr.com> Organization: http://www.FreeBSD.org/ X-message-flag: Outlook -- Not just for spreading viruses anymore! MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII cc: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Subject: Re: wireless qs X-BeenThere: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Gathering place for new users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 10 May 2003 22:30:17 -0000 On Sat, 10 May 2003, Xeon wrote: > Doug Barton wrote: > > > This card is supported in the current version of the wi driver, so if the > > isntaller asks you to configure a network card, say yes, and look for wi0 > > in the menu. If that doesn't work, you should ask on -questions. > > No! Please don't send him on a quest (similar to one I went on). It is > absolutely NOT supported right now. You are thinking of the DWL-520 NOT > the DWL-520+ which is a completely different chipset. Ah, there is another good reason not to ask questions in -newbies. :) Thanks, Doug -- This .signature sanitized for your protection