From owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Sun May 25 00:04:37 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 558A037B401 for ; Sun, 25 May 2003 00:04:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: from wantadilla.lemis.com (wantadilla.lemis.com [192.109.197.80]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 978F343FAF for ; Sun, 25 May 2003 00:04:35 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from grog@lemis.com) Received: by wantadilla.lemis.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 0F48B51A6F; Sun, 25 May 2003 16:34:24 +0930 (CST) Date: Sun, 25 May 2003 16:34:23 +0930 From: Greg 'groggy' Lehey To: "Jerry M. Howell II" Message-ID: <20030525070423.GA15770@wantadilla.lemis.com> References: <200305241756.11030.j.e.drews@worldnet.att.net> <20030525002249.A6280@jmhowell.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="lrZ03NoBR/3+SXJZ" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20030525002249.A6280@jmhowell.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4i Organization: The FreeBSD Project Phone: +61-8-8388-8286 Fax: +61-8-8388-8725 Mobile: +61-418-838-708 WWW-Home-Page: http://www.FreeBSD.org/ X-PGP-Fingerprint: 9A1B 8202 BCCE B846 F92F 09AC 22E6 F290 507A 4223 cc: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Good FreeBSD book X-BeenThere: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Gathering place for new users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 25 May 2003 07:04:37 -0000 --lrZ03NoBR/3+SXJZ Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline On Sunday, 25 May 2003 at 0:22:49 -0600, Jerry M. Howell II wrote: > On Sat, May 24, 2003 at 05:56:11PM -0500, Jonathan wrote: >> Hi: >> >> I recently got "FreeBSD: An Open-Source operating system for your personal >> computer", by Annelise Anderson. I must say this is a really excellent >> introduction to FreeBSD. Although the book covers FreeBSD 4.3, much of the >> material is still relevant to 4.8. A 4.8 CD was included with the book. She >> has an entire chapter on ports plus a very nice chapter on kernel >> configuration and compiling. She covers the commands: kldstat, kldload, >> dmesg, ldconfig, last, netstat, w, who, ps and top. She covers cvsup too. I >> learned a lot about my new FreeBSD by reading this book. >> >> http://www.bsdmall.com/freebosforyo.html > > I personaly liked FreeBSD Unleashed even though I'm not a big SAMS > advocate. Agreed. SAMS have a bad reputation, but this book is surprisingly good. > Most of my books are from O'Reilly but they did a realy good job on > this book. two thumbs up. Anyone else have any recomendations, > besides the obvoius handbook and other websites posted on the > freebsd site? Well, since you mention O'Reilly, and at the risk of blowing my own trumpet, take a look at "The Complete FreeBSD", fourth edition, which is hot off the press. http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/cfreebsd/desc.html. Greg -- See complete headers for address and phone numbers --lrZ03NoBR/3+SXJZ Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.0 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQE+0Gr3IubykFB6QiMRAhyQAJ0SgoSsSw7c394Y7SYk7l/3OIbqnQCcCwjb /Xb+s6bgFPbHBUVxL5rR/XU= =F0Mg -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --lrZ03NoBR/3+SXJZ-- From owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Sun May 25 00:10:02 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8EFC837B401; Sun, 25 May 2003 00:10:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nezlok.unixathome.org (nezlok.unixathome.org [64.251.88.60]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3DB7743F93; Sun, 25 May 2003 00:10:02 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dan@nezlok.unixathome.org) Received: by nezlok.unixathome.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 7FE19AE46A; Sun, 25 May 2003 00:10:01 -0700 (PDT) From: Dan Langille To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-Id: <20030525071001.7FE19AE46A@nezlok.unixathome.org> Date: Sun, 25 May 2003 00:10:01 -0700 (PDT) Subject: The FreeBSD Diary: 2003-05-04 - 2003-05-24 X-BeenThere: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Gathering place for new users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 25 May 2003 07:10:02 -0000 The FreeBSD Diary contains a large number of practical examples and how-to guides. This message is posted weekly to freebsd-questions@freebsd.org with the aim of letting people know what's available on the website. Before you post a question here it might be a good idea to first search the mailing list archives and/or The FreeBSD Diary . These are the articles posted during this period: 21-May : Postfix - virtual domains (part II) A bit more detail on the options http://freebsddiary.org/postfix-virtual-domains.php?2 10-May : Google blocking searches from unknown browsers I'm sure it'll be fixed soon http://freebsddiary.org/google-links-forbidden.php?2 -- Dan Langille - DVL Software Limited The FreeBSD Diary - http://www.FreeBSDDiary.org/ - practical examples FreshPorts - http://www.FreshPorts.org/ - the place for ports FreshSource - http://www.FreshSource.org/ - the place for source From owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Sun May 25 00:35:22 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D2F5037B401 for ; Sun, 25 May 2003 00:35:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: from arzaga.net (adsl-64-109-180-25.dsl.chcgil.ameritech.net [64.109.180.25]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id EC43143FAF for ; Sun, 25 May 2003 00:35:21 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from broohaha@arzaga.net) Received: (qmail 18684 invoked by uid 1001); 25 May 2003 07:35:27 -0000 Date: Sun, 25 May 2003 02:35:27 -0500 From: Al Arzaga To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20030525023527.A18674@arzaga.net> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org References: <200305241756.11030.j.e.drews@worldnet.att.net> <20030525002249.A6280@jmhowell.com> <20030525070423.GA15770@wantadilla.lemis.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5.1i In-Reply-To: <20030525070423.GA15770@wantadilla.lemis.com>; from grog@FreeBSD.org on Sun, May 25, 2003 at 04:34:23PM +0930 Subject: Re: Good FreeBSD book X-BeenThere: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Gathering place for new users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 25 May 2003 07:35:23 -0000 Great book. I wore out the pages of your third edition copy that I got myself another copy and gave away the old one to another newbie. The one I have was published by Walnut Creek CD, it appears. Not O'Reilly. Well, anyway, thanks for a well-written book. It helped me a lot when I started out. I definitely recommend this book to others, especially if this new edition is anything like the third edition. -Al On Sun, May 25, 2003 at 04:34:23PM +0930, Greg 'groggy' Lehey wrote: > > Well, since you mention O'Reilly, and at the risk of blowing my own > trumpet, take a look at "The Complete FreeBSD", fourth edition, which > is hot off the press. > http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/cfreebsd/desc.html. > > Greg > -- > See complete headers for address and phone numbers From owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Sun May 25 01:56:56 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C2B5E37B401 for ; Sun, 25 May 2003 01:56:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: from smtp-1.hut.fi (smtp-1.hut.fi [130.233.228.91]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 590DD43F75 for ; Sun, 25 May 2003 01:56:55 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jhuvinen@lyta.hut.fi) Received: from lyta.hut.fi (lyta.hut.fi [130.233.228.21]) by smtp-1.hut.fi (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h4P8ursW011191 for ; Sun, 25 May 2003 11:56:53 +0300 Date: Sun, 25 May 2003 11:56:53 +0300 (EET DST) From: Jukka Huvinen To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-RAVMilter-Version: 8.4.3(snapshot 20030212) (smtp-1.hut.fi) X-DCC-HUTCC-Metrics: smtp-1.hut.fi 1165; Body=1 Fuz1=1 Fuz2=1 Subject: Updating ports X-BeenThere: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Gathering place for new users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 25 May 2003 08:56:57 -0000 I'm stuck with a mouse bug (freezes while typing text) and I was told updating latest XFree86 might help. Ok. I'm running 4.8 release. How should I update my ports-tree? I tried cvsup. Manual says there is only a current branch for the ports collection. (cvsup: tag=.) If I give tag=RELENG_4, it only deletes the port directories. Is it possible to update the ports tree to stable branch at all, i.e. "current" 4 stable? I have only a modem connection and I would like to avoid updating everything and would like to stay within stable-branch. Thanks for any help!! -- Jukka From owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Sun May 25 02:08:25 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 014E637B401 for ; Sun, 25 May 2003 02:08:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: from www.tuners.ch (dclient217-162-135-234.hispeed.ch [217.162.135.234]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6F2EC43F3F for ; Sun, 25 May 2003 02:08:24 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from vx@tuners.ch) Received: from binah.tuners.ch (unknown [192.168.0.3]) by www.tuners.ch (Postfix) with ESMTP id ED0D5B79B; Sun, 25 May 2003 11:08:21 +0200 (CEST) From: Hernani Marques Madeira To: Jukka Huvinen , freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Date: Sun, 25 May 2003 11:08:21 +0200 User-Agent: KMail/1.5 References: In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200305251108.21871.vx@tuners.ch> Subject: Re: Updating ports X-BeenThere: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Gathering place for new users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 25 May 2003 09:08:25 -0000 Hi On Sunday 25 May 2003 10:56, Jukka Huvinen wrote: > I'm stuck with a mouse bug (freezes while typing text) > and I was told updating latest XFree86 might help. What type of mouse is it & what protocol are you using in /etc/X11/XF86Config-4 ? > Ok. I'm running 4.8 release. How should I update my > ports-tree? I tried cvsup. Here's my cvsupfile that works fine: ### SNIP ### *default host=cvsup.de.FreeBSD.org *default base=/usr *default prefix=/usr *default release=cvs *default tag=RELENG_4 *default delete use-rel-suffix src-all *default tag=. ports-all doc-all ### SNIP ### > I have only a modem connection and I would like to avoid > updating everything and would like to stay within > stable-branch. Have a look at http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/cvsup.html and modify the bottom lines of the above cvsupfile to get only the things you really need. Hernani From owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Sun May 25 02:49:32 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ADA2337B401 for ; Sun, 25 May 2003 02:49:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: from hotmail.com (f24.sea1.hotmail.com [207.68.163.24]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C154843F3F for ; Sun, 25 May 2003 02:49:31 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from crollins666@hotmail.com) Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Sun, 25 May 2003 02:49:31 -0700 Received: from 216.19.22.118 by sea1fd.sea1.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Sun, 25 May 2003 09:49:31 GMT X-Originating-IP: [216.19.22.118] X-Originating-Email: [crollins666@hotmail.com] From: "clayton rollins" To: jhuvinen@cc.hut.fi Date: Sun, 25 May 2003 09:49:31 +0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 25 May 2003 09:49:31.0409 (UTC) FILETIME=[F0A7F010:01C322A2] cc: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Updating ports X-BeenThere: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Gathering place for new users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 25 May 2003 09:49:33 -0000 On Sun, 25 May 2003 Jukka Huvinen > >I'm stuck with a mouse bug (freezes while typing text) and I was told >updating latest XFree86 might help. > >Ok. I'm running 4.8 release. How should I update my ports-tree? >I tried cvsup. > >Manual says there is only a current branch for the ports collection. >(cvsup: tag=.) If I give tag=RELENG_4, it only deletes the port >directories. > ; ) I did the same thing. > >Is it possible to update the ports tree to stable branch at all, i.e. >"current" 4 stable? > I'm pretty sure the thinking here is that, since it's third party software, current vs. stable doesn't apply in the same way. On a side note, I haven't had any real problems running the current ports tree. And, just to note, my ports lists ver. XFree86-4.3.0,1 > >I have only a modem connection and I would like to avoid updating >everything and would like to stay within stable-branch. > If you use cvsup with compression, it shouldn't be too big to just get the ports tree. (I think it was just over 30 megs when I did it...) > >Thanks for any help!! > > >-- >Jukka > I'd like to ask you more about this 'mouse bug,' but it's not really appropriate on this list. (though it does really sound interesting.) If you still can't get it to work, I'll watch for your post to -questions. Peace, Clayton _________________________________________________________________ Add photos to your messages with MSN 8. Get 2 months FREE*. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/featuredemail From owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Sun May 25 03:31:24 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4B53037B401 for ; Sun, 25 May 2003 03:31:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: from smtp-2.hut.fi (smtp-2.hut.fi [130.233.228.92]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 04ECC43FA3 for ; Sun, 25 May 2003 03:31:23 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jhuvinen@lyta.hut.fi) Received: from lyta.hut.fi (lyta.hut.fi [130.233.228.21]) by smtp-2.hut.fi (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h4PAVLY4010246 for ; Sun, 25 May 2003 13:31:21 +0300 Date: Sun, 25 May 2003 13:31:21 +0300 (EET DST) From: Jukka Huvinen To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: Message-ID: References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-RAVMilter-Version: 8.4.3(snapshot 20030212) (smtp-2.hut.fi) X-DCC-HUTCC-Metrics: smtp-2.hut.fi 1165; Body=1 Fuz1=1 Fuz2=1 Subject: Re: Updating ports X-BeenThere: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Gathering place for new users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 25 May 2003 10:31:24 -0000 On Sun, 25 May 2003, clayton rollins wrote: > >I have only a modem connection and I would like to avoid updating > >everything and would like to stay within stable-branch. > > > > If you use cvsup with compression, it shouldn't be too big to just get the > ports tree. (I think it was just over 30 megs when I did it...) Yes, the tree is not a problem, but the ports are. XFree + gnome2 are almost everything. And all depends on others... I updated to the "current" ports tree also, but some of them are not even available as a package. Also portupgrade used a download path .../stable_4_8 ... or similar and did not find the packages. Getting them manually was possible, but I ended up with partial upgrade and nonfunctional X. Something went wrong. pkg_delete -a and reinstall restored it back to 4.8... BTW, there are a package-directory current-4 or stable-4 in ftp.freebsd.org. I wonder why there would not be a ports tree available for it. I could give a try with manual update according to that directory versions. -- Jukka From owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Sun May 25 05:15:26 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 42E2137B401 for ; Sun, 25 May 2003 05:15:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: from fep04-mail.bloor.is.net.cable.rogers.com (fep04-mail.bloor.is.net.cable.rogers.com [66.185.86.74]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E332E43F3F for ; Sun, 25 May 2003 05:15:24 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mj001@rogers.com) Received: from rogers.com ([24.101.253.54]) by fep04-mail.bloor.is.net.cable.rogers.comESMTP <20030525121523.OEHX165584.fep04-mail.bloor.is.net.cable.rogers.com@rogers.com>; Sun, 25 May 2003 08:15:23 -0400 Message-ID: <3ED0B3DB.3060506@rogers.com> Date: Sun, 25 May 2003 08:15:23 -0400 From: mj001 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.0.1) Gecko/20021005 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Jonathan References: <200305241756.11030.j.e.drews@worldnet.att.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Authentication-Info: Submitted using SMTP AUTH PLAIN at fep04-mail.bloor.is.net.cable.rogers.com from [24.101.253.54] using ID at Sun, 25 May 2003 08:15:23 -0400 cc: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Good FreeBSD book X-BeenThere: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Gathering place for new users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 25 May 2003 12:15:26 -0000 Jonathan wrote: > Hi: > > I recently got "FreeBSD: An Open-Source operating system for your personal > computer", by Annelise Anderson. I must say this is a really excellent > introduction to FreeBSD. Although the book covers FreeBSD 4.3, much of the > material is still relevant to 4.8. A 4.8 CD was included with the book. She > has an entire chapter on ports plus a very nice chapter on kernel > configuration and compiling. She covers the commands: kldstat, kldload, > dmesg, ldconfig, last, netstat, w, who, ps and top. She covers cvsup too. I > learned a lot about my new FreeBSD by reading this book. > > http://www.bsdmall.com/freebosforyo.html > > > Kind regards, > Jonathan > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-newbies > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-newbies-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > I also recommend "Absolute BSD", by Michael Lucas. It is subtitled "The ultimate guide to FreeBSD", and is very comprehensive. It is more technical, and less a beginer's guide, than "FreeBSD Unleashed". It gives lots of information on security and configuration; there is a complete run-down of the /etc hierarchy, for example. ISBN 1-886411-74-3. From owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Sun May 25 14:48:03 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9583A37B401 for ; Sun, 25 May 2003 14:48:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: from hotmail.com (f90.sea1.hotmail.com [207.68.163.90]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1D5B343F75 for ; Sun, 25 May 2003 14:48:03 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from crollins666@hotmail.com) Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Sun, 25 May 2003 14:48:02 -0700 Received: from 216.19.22.118 by sea1fd.sea1.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Sun, 25 May 2003 21:48:01 GMT X-Originating-IP: [216.19.22.118] X-Originating-Email: [crollins666@hotmail.com] From: "clayton rollins" To: jhuvinen@cc.hut.fi Date: Sun, 25 May 2003 21:48:01 +0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 25 May 2003 21:48:02.0874 (UTC) FILETIME=[511771A0:01C32307] cc: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Updating ports X-BeenThere: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Gathering place for new users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 25 May 2003 21:48:03 -0000 On Sun, 25 May 2003 Jukka Huvinen wrote: > > >On Sun, 25 May 2003, clayton rollins wrote: > > > >I have only a modem connection and I would like to avoid updating > > >everything and would like to stay within stable-branch. > > > > > > > If you use cvsup with compression, it shouldn't be too big to just get >the > > ports tree. (I think it was just over 30 megs when I did it...) > >Yes, the tree is not a problem, but the ports are. XFree + gnome2 are >almost everything. And all depends on others... > I see what you mean; yes, it is a *lot* of stuff. >I updated to the "current" ports tree also, but some of them are not even >available as a package. Also portupgrade used a download path >.../stable_4_8 ... or similar and did not find the packages. Getting them >manually was possible, but I ended up with partial upgrade and >nonfunctional X. Something went wrong. > >pkg_delete -a and reinstall restored it back to 4.8... > First, did you check to see if the packages may have just been moved? /usr/ports/MOVED has a listing of recently removed or moved packages... I'm not really sure what you mean by "portupgrade used a download path .../stable_4_8 ... or similar." Was this in the URL, or the distfile path? If it's the second, you might verify that PORTSDIR is not set to point to it. If it's the first, you might check the Makefile line MASTER_SITES to see if it's pointing to it. (I have no plausable explanation for either case, though.) At any rate, this question is a bit beyond what -newbies should handle. Feel free to ask again on -questions. (A crazy newbie idea to, quite likely, get yourself in trouble: run a 'pkgdb -u' without updating the tree, then 'portupgrade -r -R XFree86.' I have no idea if it would/should work. (that's what you get when you ask a newbie questions... I'm not sure if 'pkgdb -u' checks against a remote database; I think it does.) Checking with portversion will show if pkgdb lists the packages as outdated; if it does, portupgrade *should* work.) Peace, Clayton _________________________________________________________________ The new MSN 8: smart spam protection and 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail From owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Mon May 26 08:29:01 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AD19C37B401 for ; Mon, 26 May 2003 08:29:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: from smgl.positivism.org (irc.positivism.org [65.102.47.196]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BA9B343F75 for ; Mon, 26 May 2003 08:28:58 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from sarah@ironicallyyours.org) Received: from tautology.org (evrtwa1-ar13-4-33-070-190.evrtwa1.dsl-verizon.net [4.33.70.190]) by smgl.positivism.org (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h4QFSvTE001353 for ; Mon, 26 May 2003 15:28:57 GMT Received: from tautology.org (tautology.org [127.0.0.1]) by tautology.org (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h4QFSuph006469 for ; Mon, 26 May 2003 08:28:56 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from sarah@ironicallyyours.org) Date: Mon, 26 May 2003 08:28:56 -0700 (PDT) From: Sarah Woolley X-X-Sender: sarah@tautology.org To: freebsd-newbies In-Reply-To: <3ECC3792.9040502@rogers.com> Message-ID: <20030526082750.A6316-100000@tautology.org> References: <002001c31f98$32259640$9600000a@medkat> <3ECBB074.9010601@ns.sympatico.ca> <3ECC3792.9040502@rogers.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Subject: Re: minimum system requirements X-BeenThere: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Gathering place for new users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 26 May 2003 15:29:02 -0000 if you do want to try x windows, you might want to look at blackbox or some other smaller manager, instead of kde or gnome From owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Mon May 26 11:17:18 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 08D1037B401 for ; Mon, 26 May 2003 11:17:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: from smtpzilla5.xs4all.nl (smtpzilla5.xs4all.nl [194.109.127.141]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E6A5643F85 for ; Mon, 26 May 2003 11:17:16 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from camaleon@xs4all.nl) Received: from medkat (194-109-252-19.adsl.xs4all.nl [194.109.252.19]) by smtpzilla5.xs4all.nl (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h4QIHFxL034712 for ; Mon, 26 May 2003 20:17:15 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <000b01c323b3$0a4c5a40$9600000a@medkat> From: "camaleon" To: "freebsd-newbies" References: <002001c31f98$32259640$9600000a@medkat><3ECBB074.9010601@ns.sympatico.ca> <3ECC3792.9040502@rogers.com> <20030526082750.A6316-100000@tautology.org> Date: Mon, 26 May 2003 20:17:16 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Subject: Re: minimum system requirements X-BeenThere: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Gathering place for new users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 26 May 2003 18:17:18 -0000 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sarah Woolley" To: "freebsd-newbies" Sent: Monday, May 26, 2003 5:28 PM Subject: Re: minimum system requirements > if you do want to try x windows, you might want to look at blackbox or > some other smaller manager, instead of kde or gnome Funny that you should mention that window manager, because it was just the manager that I did use under Slackware to have XWindows running. I have burned the cd-roms in the meantime, and I will probably "rebuild" the old machine today or in the next couple of days, and then have a go at installing FreeBSD. - camaleon From owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Mon May 26 15:47:40 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8473637B401 for ; Mon, 26 May 2003 15:47:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pd4mo1so.prod.shaw.ca (shawidc-mo1.cg.shawcable.net [24.71.223.10]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AD20943FAF for ; Mon, 26 May 2003 15:47:37 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from timmssimon@shaw.ca) Received: from pd3mr1so.prod.shaw.ca (pd3mr1so-ser.prod.shaw.ca [10.0.141.177])2003))freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org; Mon, 26 May 2003 16:43:29 -0600 (MDT) Received: from shaw.ca (pd6ms1so-con.prod.shaw.ca [10.0.122.101]) by l-daemon (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.14 (built Mar 18 2003)) with ESMTP id <0HFI00M1ZN4HA0@l-daemon> for freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org; Mon, 26 May 2003 16:43:29 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [10.0.142.58] by pd6ims1.prod.shaw.ca (mshttpd); Mon, 26 May 2003 16:43:29 -0600 Date: Mon, 26 May 2003 16:43:29 -0600 From: timmssimon@shaw.ca To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Message-id: <63baa65008.6500863baa@shaw.ca> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: iPlanet Messenger Express 5.1 HotFix 1.6 (built Oct 18 2002) Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-language: en Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-disposition: inline X-Accept-Language: en Subject: CVSup & ports collection X-BeenThere: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Gathering place for new users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 26 May 2003 22:47:40 -0000 Hi, I have just tried to update my ports collection using CVSup. I followed the instructions in the hand book and specified the following: *default host=cvsup.ca.FreeBSD.org *default base=/usr/local/etc/cvsup *default prefix=/usr *default release=cvs delete use-rel-suffix compress src-all ports-all The CVSup seems to run fine. I am left, however, with a large number of files with ",v" appended to the end. Is there some sort of merger procedure which I should follow to update my current files and to rename the new files to their name without the ",v"? From owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Mon May 26 16:14:38 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D124D37B401 for ; Mon, 26 May 2003 16:14:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: from smtp805.mail.sc5.yahoo.com (smtp805.mail.sc5.yahoo.com [66.163.168.184]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 4107843FBD for ; Mon, 26 May 2003 16:14:36 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from scott@bsdprophet.org) Received: from adsl-67-39-36-114.dsl.milwwi.ameritech.net (HELO bsdprophet.org) (bsdprophet%sbcglobal.net@67.39.36.114 with plain) by smtp-sbc-v1.mail.vip.sc5.yahoo.com with SMTP; 26 May 2003 23:14:36 -0000 Message-ID: <3ED29FE4.3020906@bsdprophet.org> Date: Mon, 26 May 2003 18:14:44 -0500 From: Scott Corey User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.4b) Gecko/20030516 X-Accept-Language: en-us, ja, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: timmssimon@shaw.ca References: <63baa65008.6500863baa@shaw.ca> In-Reply-To: <63baa65008.6500863baa@shaw.ca> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Subject: Re: CVSup & ports collection X-BeenThere: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Gathering place for new users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 26 May 2003 23:14:39 -0000 timmssimon@shaw.ca wrote: > Hi, > I have just tried to update my ports collection using CVSup. I followed the instructions in the hand book and specified the following: > > *default host=cvsup.ca.FreeBSD.org Keep > *default base=/usr/local/etc/cvsup keep > *default prefix=/usr keep > *default release=cvs delete use-rel-suffix compress remove try this instead *default release=cvs *default tag=RELENG_4 <--- if you want the latest 4.x stable *default delete use-rel-suffix > > src-all > add between these two " *default tag=. " don't include the "", this will give you the latest ports. > ports-all > > > The CVSup seems to run fine. I am left, however, with a large number of files with ",v" appended to the end. Is there some sort of merger procedure which I should follow to update my current files and to rename the new files to their name without the ",v"? From owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Mon May 26 16:17:38 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D71EA37B401 for ; Mon, 26 May 2003 16:17:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: from smtp806.mail.sc5.yahoo.com (smtp806.mail.sc5.yahoo.com [66.163.168.185]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 41F5B43F3F for ; Mon, 26 May 2003 16:17:38 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from matt@forsetti.com) Received: from 5.163.252.64.snet.net (HELO forsetti.com) (matthew2967@sbcglobal.net@64.252.163.5 with plain) by smtp-sbc-v1.mail.vip.sc5.yahoo.com with SMTP; 26 May 2003 23:17:38 -0000 Message-ID: <3ED26957.3010600@forsetti.com> Date: Mon, 26 May 2003 19:21:59 +0000 From: Matt Smith User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.3) Gecko/20030423 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: timmssimon@shaw.ca References: <63baa65008.6500863baa@shaw.ca> In-Reply-To: <63baa65008.6500863baa@shaw.ca> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.73.1.0 X-Enigmail-Supports: pgp-inline, pgp-mime Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Subject: Re: CVSup & ports collection X-BeenThere: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Gathering place for new users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 26 May 2003 23:17:39 -0000 timmssimon@shaw.ca wrote: > Hi, > I have just tried to update my ports collection using CVSup. I followed the instructions in the hand book and specified the following: > > *default host=cvsup.ca.FreeBSD.org > *default base=/usr/local/etc/cvsup > *default prefix=/usr > *default release=cvs delete use-rel-suffix compress > > src-all > > ports-all > > > The CVSup seems to run fine. I am left, however, with a large number of files with ",v" appended to the end. Is there some sort of merger procedure which I should follow to update my current files and to rename the new files to their name without the ",v"? > > > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-newbies > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-newbies-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > Check out that Handbook example again: http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/cvsup.html Note the line(s) referring to "tag". Hope that helps! -Matt From owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Mon May 26 20:38:14 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C6B3537B401 for ; Mon, 26 May 2003 20:38:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nycsmtp4out-eri0.rdc-nyc.rr.com (nycsmtp4out-eri0.rdc-nyc.rr.com [24.29.99.227]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B042B43FD7 for ; Mon, 26 May 2003 20:38:13 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from asolomon15@nyc.rr.com) Received: from matrix.solomon.net (24-193-64-140.nyc.rr.com [24.193.64.140]) 1.0) with ESMTP id h4R3cCPc027329 for ; Mon, 26 May 2003 23:38:12 -0400 (EDT) Date: Mon, 26 May 2003 23:40:42 -0400 From: Antoine Solomon To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Message-Id: <20030526234042.2d14fced.asolomon15@nyc.rr.com> In-Reply-To: <20030525023527.A18674@arzaga.net> References: <200305241756.11030.j.e.drews@worldnet.att.net> <20030525002249.A6280@jmhowell.com> <20030525070423.GA15770@wantadilla.lemis.com> <20030525023527.A18674@arzaga.net> X-Mailer: Sylpheed version 0.9.0 (GTK+ 1.2.10; i386-portbld-freebsd5.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Good FreeBSD book X-BeenThere: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Gathering place for new users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 27 May 2003 03:38:15 -0000 On Sun, 25 May 2003 02:35:27 -0500 Al Arzaga wrote: > Great book. I wore out the pages of your third edition copy that I got > myself another copy and gave away the old one to another newbie. > The one I have was published by Walnut Creek CD, it appears. Not O'Reilly. > > Well, anyway, thanks for a well-written book. It helped me a lot > when I started out. I definitely recommend this book to others, > especially if this new edition is anything like the third edition. > > -Al > > On Sun, May 25, 2003 at 04:34:23PM +0930, Greg 'groggy' Lehey wrote: > > > > Well, since you mention O'Reilly, and at the risk of blowing my own > > trumpet, take a look at "The Complete FreeBSD", fourth edition, which > > is hot off the press. > > http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/cfreebsd/desc.html. > > > > Greg > > -- > > See complete headers for address and phone numbers > > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-newbies > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-newbies-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" I just got the 4th edition of the complete freebsd.. This is a must have for the beginner like me.. Thanks Greg :-) -- From owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Tue May 27 13:15:46 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9D6E337B401 for ; Tue, 27 May 2003 13:15:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: from fmx1.freemail.hu (fmx1.freemail.hu [195.228.242.221]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 6133C43F85 for ; Tue, 27 May 2003 13:15:45 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gannater@freemail.hu) Received: (qmail 51689 invoked from network); 27 May 2003 22:15:43 +0200 Received: from fm2.freemail.hu (195.228.242.202) by fmx1.freemail.hu with SMTP; 27 May 2003 22:15:43 +0200 Received: (qmail 11655 invoked by uid 3644897); 27 May 2003 22:15:43 +0200 Date: Tue, 27 May 2003 22:15:43 +0200 (CEST) From: =?ISO-8859-2?Q?Gannater_J=E1nos?= To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Message-ID: X-Originating-IP: [81.182.49.109] X-HTTP-User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.0.2) Gecko/20030208 Netscape/7.02 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=ISO-8859-2 Subject: passwd X-BeenThere: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Gathering place for new users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 27 May 2003 20:15:46 -0000 Hello, I am a real newbie. I deleted the users I didn't know, now I am in big trouble. Could you tell me what user should I add to make my system work again. Now I can't login with any user.... $ cat /etc/passwd root:*:0:0:Misi Balassy:/root:/usr/local/bin/bash daemon:*:1:1:Owner of many system processes:/root:/sbin/nologin operator:*:2:5:System &:/:/sbin/nologin bin:*:3:7:Binaries Commands and Source:/:/sbin/nologin tty:*:4:65533:Tty Sandbox:/:/sbin/nologin kmem:*:5:65533:KMem Sandbox:/:/sbin/nologin games:*:7:13:Games pseudo-user:/usr/games:/sbin/nologin man:*:9:9:Mister Man Pages:/usr/share/man:/sbin/nologin sshd:*:22:22:Secure Shell Daemon:/var/empty:/sbin/nologin smmsp:*:25:25:Sendmail Submission User:/var/spool/clientmqueue:/sbin/nologin mailnull:*:26:26:Sendmail Default User:/var/spool/mqueue:/sbin/nologin pop:*:68:6:Post Office Owner:/nonexistent:/sbin/nologin www:*:80:80:World Wide Web Owner:/nonexistent:/sbin/nologin nobody:*:65534:65534:Unprivileged user:/nonexistent:/sbin/nologin postfix:*:1006:1006:Postfix Mail System:/var/spool/postfix:/sbin/nologin postmaster:*:1014:1008:Mail Postmaster:/home/vendeg/postmaster:/usr/local/bin/bash cyrus:*:60:60:the cyrus mail server:/nonexistent:/sbin/nologin From owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Tue May 27 13:24:04 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C4D9137B401 for ; Tue, 27 May 2003 13:24:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: from devil.tebokkel.com (ptb.xs4all.nl [80.126.6.185]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6F3A843F3F for ; Tue, 27 May 2003 13:24:03 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from paul@tebokkel.com) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by devil.tebokkel.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 85D71148; Tue, 27 May 2003 22:24:01 +0200 (CEST) Received: from by localhost (amavisd-new, port ) id mdR0A8kH; Tue, 27 May 2003 22:23:59 +0200 (CEST) Received: by devil.tebokkel.com (Postfix, from userid 1001) id CB6397B; Tue, 27 May 2003 22:23:58 +0200 (CEST) Date: Tue, 27 May 2003 22:23:58 +0200 From: Paul te Bokkel To: Gannater =?iso-8859-1?Q?J=E1nos?= Message-ID: <20030527202358.GA5798@tebokkel.com> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.4i X-Virus-Scanned: by AMaViS with NAI vscan (datfiles 4266) cc: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Subject: Re: passwd X-BeenThere: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Gathering place for new users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 27 May 2003 20:24:05 -0000 Have a look at /var/backups. Backups of /etc/passwd, passwd.system and group should be there if you haven't touched daily_backup_passwd_enable in /etc/periodic.conf _and_ your system has been running overnight recently. Regards, Paul On Tue, May 27, 2003 at 10:15:43PM +0200, Gannater János wrote: > Hello, > > I am a real newbie. > I deleted the users I didn't know, now I am in big trouble. > Could you tell me what user should I add to make my system > work again. Now I can't login with any user.... > > $ cat /etc/passwd > root:*:0:0:Misi Balassy:/root:/usr/local/bin/bash > daemon:*:1:1:Owner of many system processes:/root:/sbin/nologin > operator:*:2:5:System &:/:/sbin/nologin > bin:*:3:7:Binaries Commands and Source:/:/sbin/nologin > tty:*:4:65533:Tty Sandbox:/:/sbin/nologin > kmem:*:5:65533:KMem Sandbox:/:/sbin/nologin > games:*:7:13:Games pseudo-user:/usr/games:/sbin/nologin > man:*:9:9:Mister Man Pages:/usr/share/man:/sbin/nologin > sshd:*:22:22:Secure Shell Daemon:/var/empty:/sbin/nologin > smmsp:*:25:25:Sendmail Submission > User:/var/spool/clientmqueue:/sbin/nologin > mailnull:*:26:26:Sendmail Default > User:/var/spool/mqueue:/sbin/nologin > pop:*:68:6:Post Office Owner:/nonexistent:/sbin/nologin > www:*:80:80:World Wide Web Owner:/nonexistent:/sbin/nologin > nobody:*:65534:65534:Unprivileged > user:/nonexistent:/sbin/nologin > postfix:*:1006:1006:Postfix Mail > System:/var/spool/postfix:/sbin/nologin > postmaster:*:1014:1008:Mail > Postmaster:/home/vendeg/postmaster:/usr/local/bin/bash > cyrus:*:60:60:the cyrus mail server:/nonexistent:/sbin/nologin > > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-newbies > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-newbies-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Wed May 28 01:06:37 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D45A037B401 for ; Wed, 28 May 2003 01:06:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: from fmx4.freemail.hu (fmx4.freemail.hu [195.228.242.224]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 6951B43F3F for ; Wed, 28 May 2003 01:06:36 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gannater@freemail.hu) Received: (qmail 16373 invoked from network); 28 May 2003 10:06:34 +0200 Received: from fm6.freemail.hu (195.228.242.206) by fmx4.freemail.hu with SMTP; 28 May 2003 10:06:34 +0200 Received: (qmail 71849 invoked by uid 3644897); 28 May 2003 10:06:33 +0200 Date: Wed, 28 May 2003 10:06:33 +0200 (CEST) From: =?ISO-8859-2?Q?Gannater_J=E1nos?= To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Message-ID: X-Originating-IP: [81.182.50.2] X-HTTP-User-Agent: Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 6.0; Windows NT 5.1) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=ISO-8859-2 Subject: passwd X-BeenThere: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Gathering place for new users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 28 May 2003 08:06:38 -0000 Hello, > Another newbie here, had a similar prob myself, try a reboot, and hit > any key (other than enter) before the kernel boots. Then go boot -s > (this boots you into single user mode) the type passwd, this will set > the root password, You can now log in as root, then > go /stand/sysinstall and you can add yourself as a user again. I thought of the same idea as well. My question is that how could it be that there is a user in the /etc/passwd file, but it doesn't exists. So I think there is a database and the /etc/passwd file that stores the user information. How can I compare them? From owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Wed May 28 10:44:34 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6DA3037B401 for ; Wed, 28 May 2003 10:44:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: from fmx4.freemail.hu (fmx4.freemail.hu [195.228.242.224]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 3D7A443F85 for ; Wed, 28 May 2003 10:44:33 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kovacspeter2@freemail.hu) Received: (qmail 16808 invoked from network); 28 May 2003 19:44:32 +0200 Received: from fm1.freemail.hu (195.228.242.201) by fmx4.freemail.hu with SMTP; 28 May 2003 19:44:32 +0200 Received: (qmail 63658 invoked by uid 3421979); 28 May 2003 19:44:31 +0200 Date: Wed, 28 May 2003 19:44:31 +0200 (CEST) From: =?ISO-8859-2?Q?Kov=E1cs_P=E9ter?= To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Message-ID: X-Originating-IP: [81.182.50.250] X-HTTP-User-Agent: Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 6.0; Windows NT 5.1) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=ISO-8859-2 Subject: mux.pid X-BeenThere: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Gathering place for new users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 28 May 2003 17:44:34 -0000 Hello, I have a system running FreeBSD 4.8. After running the make world the following error come up in the /var/log/messages file: saslauthd[296]: FATAL: setting master lock on /var/state/saslauthd/mux.pid: Resource temporarily unavailable I recompiled the whole sasl2, but the error still exist. And of course the file exsits as well. It has a number inside. Thanks... From owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Wed May 28 13:25:57 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0C4B437B401 for ; Wed, 28 May 2003 13:25:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pantheon-po01.its.yale.edu (pantheon-po01.its.yale.edu [130.132.50.18]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 212D343F93 for ; Wed, 28 May 2003 13:25:56 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from lukas.muehlethaler@yale.edu) Received: from [130.132.244.231] (ppp130132244231.student.yale.edu [130.132.244.231])h4SKPrv13794 for ; Wed, 28 May 2003 16:25:53 -0400 (EDT) Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: Date: Wed, 28 May 2003 16:25:12 -0500 To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org From: Lukas Muehlethaler Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" X-YaleITSMailFilter: Version 1.0c (attachment(s) not renamed) Subject: Hardware X-BeenThere: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Gathering place for new users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 28 May 2003 20:25:57 -0000 Dear listmembers, I am using Mac OS 10.2 on an iBook and want to have a simple and inexpensive FreeBSD desktop computer at home. I am offered a used Dell Dimension 4100 Pentium III 1Ghz, 133 Mhz SDRAM with an 16 inch monitor for 300 bucks. Has anybody on the list experience with running FreeBSD on such a machine? I checked on the net and found that there are some FreeBSD installation issues with the BIOS and the firmware of these machines which can be solved with an update from the Dell website. Any other suggestions, tips and hints are very welcome, Lukas From owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Wed May 28 15:27:45 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 625C437B401 for ; Wed, 28 May 2003 15:27:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: from remt20.cluster1.charter.net (remt20.cluster1.charter.net [209.225.8.30]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 93A0343F75 for ; Wed, 28 May 2003 15:27:44 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from osuisn01@charter.net) Received: from [68.116.144.187] (HELO dell) by remt20.cluster1.charter.net (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.0.6) with SMTP id 43078448 for freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org; Wed, 28 May 2003 18:27:43 -0400 From: "David Nicholas" To: Date: Wed, 28 May 2003 17:26:57 -0500 Message-ID: <001f01c32568$40682760$6601a8c0@dell> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook CWS, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6600 Importance: Normal Subject: Installing on a IBM PC320 Server X-BeenThere: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Gathering place for new users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 28 May 2003 22:27:45 -0000 I have an old IBM PC320 Server with the following hardware (use to have Microsoft SBS 4.5 installed before I tried to install FreeBSD): 128MB RAM 2 (4.5GB) Quantum Viking WSE SCSI hard drives, one is SCSI ID#0 and the other SCSI ID#1 SCSI ID#7 Adaptec AHA-2940 SCSI controller SCSI ID#2 HP 35470A Tape Drive SCSI ID#3 IBM CDRM00203 SCSI CD-ROM Trident TGVA (1MB) video card 2 (100Mhz) Pentium Processors Installed FreeBSD 4.8 (and also tried FreeBSD 4.2) with no hiccups using the outlined installation in the FreeBSD handbook with no other operating systems. When I go to reboot, the Boot Manager comes up with two options: F1 FreeBSD and F5 Drive 1 (or F5 Drive 0, depending if I select F5). Neither work. It will not boot past this point. What am I doing wrong? I know it probably has something to do with my SCSI ID's but I don't have a clue what arrangement or BIOS settings that need to be adjusted. Has anyone installed on this type of server and if so, what settings are needed on the physical server. Or is there a way to get around it in the installation process. Thanks for all your help! I'd really like to get FreeBSD going on this particular box. David Nicholas osuisn01@charter.net From owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Wed May 28 19:03:17 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C759837B401; Wed, 28 May 2003 19:03:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: from hotmail.com (f129.sea1.hotmail.com [207.68.163.129]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 344E343F75; Wed, 28 May 2003 19:03:17 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from crollins666@hotmail.com) Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Wed, 28 May 2003 19:03:17 -0700 Received: from 216.19.22.118 by sea1fd.sea1.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Thu, 29 May 2003 02:03:16 GMT X-Originating-IP: [216.19.22.118] X-Originating-Email: [crollins666@hotmail.com] From: "clayton rollins" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Thu, 29 May 2003 02:03:16 +0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 29 May 2003 02:03:17.0043 (UTC) FILETIME=[78497030:01C32586] cc: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Subject: Fw: Installing on a IBM PC320 Server (from -newbies) X-BeenThere: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Gathering place for new users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 29 May 2003 02:03:18 -0000 On Wed, 28 May 2003 "David Nicholas" wrote: > > >I have an old IBM PC320 Server with the following hardware (use to have >Microsoft SBS 4.5 installed before I tried to install FreeBSD): > >128MB RAM >2 (4.5GB) Quantum Viking WSE SCSI hard drives, one is SCSI ID#0 and the >other SCSI ID#1 >SCSI ID#7 Adaptec AHA-2940 SCSI controller >SCSI ID#2 HP 35470A Tape Drive >SCSI ID#3 IBM CDRM00203 SCSI CD-ROM >Trident TGVA (1MB) video card >2 (100Mhz) Pentium Processors > >Installed FreeBSD 4.8 (and also tried FreeBSD 4.2) with no hiccups using >the >outlined installation in the FreeBSD handbook with no other operating >systems. When I go to reboot, the Boot Manager comes up with two options: >F1 FreeBSD and F5 Drive 1 (or F5 Drive 0, depending if I select F5). >Neither work. It will not boot past this point. What am I doing wrong? I >know it probably has something to do with my SCSI ID's but I don't have a >clue what arrangement or BIOS settings that need to be adjusted. Has >anyone >installed on this type of server and if so, what settings are needed on the >physical server. Or is there a way to get around it in the installation >process. Thanks for all your help! I'd really like to get FreeBSD going >on >this particular box. > >David Nicholas >osuisn01@charter.net > Hi David, It does sound like your hard drive is misconfigured somehow, but I don't know how much the -newbies list can help you. (Hence, I'm forwarding it to -questions; please continue that thread...) I can only think of a few things that you might try. One, verify that the disk geometry is set right during the install. Two, disable LBA and any other non-unix friendly settings in the bios. (As I don't know a whole lot about SCSI, I can't say much about the latter course of action.) Hope you get it worked out, Clayton _________________________________________________________________ MSN 8 with e-mail virus protection service: 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/virus From owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Wed May 28 23:20:18 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C54D637B49A for ; Wed, 28 May 2003 23:20:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: from fed1mtao06.cox.net (fed1mtao06.cox.net [68.6.19.125]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3EEC643F75 for ; Wed, 28 May 2003 23:20:18 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from stickney@ece.arizona.edu) Received: from HarryPotter.hogwarts ([68.105.138.15]) by fed1mtao06.cox.net ESMTP <20030529062016.QKXM25684.fed1mtao06.cox.net@HarryPotter.hogwarts> for ; Thu, 29 May 2003 02:20:16 -0400 From: Robert Stickney To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Date: Wed, 28 May 2003 23:20:17 -0700 User-Agent: KMail/1.5.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200305282320.17938.stickney@ece.arizona.edu> Subject: preferred email system X-BeenThere: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Gathering place for new users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 29 May 2003 06:20:19 -0000 I am relatively new to FreeBSD. I move from MS Windows, tried linux, and fell in love with the ports tree. I am trying to setup my email system. I found Evolution. It is a nice replacement of MS Outlook but then realized that I could do more if i found the right blend of software. I am looking for suggestions of software (mostlikely a group of software) which will allow me to meet these criteria: robust sorting system some intelligent way to deal with spam nice GUI for use in XFree86 shell interface to same email database for remote access (the two clients running at the same time would be best) if possible share an address book (and with Palm Vx) a good calendar system (links with Palm Vx - have jPilot installed) if possible download new emails into Palm Vx (sorted into correct directories -- MS outlook could not do that.) later it might be nice to add web email as a remote option. Any suggestions would be help full. If anybody has done anything similar it would be nice to know how you did it. Thank you, Robert Stickney stickney@ece.arizona.edu PS. Please CC me since I am not currently signed up to the listserve. PPS. Sent this message to both Chat and Newbies to get different perspectives. From owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Thu May 29 05:58:05 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8BA6137B401 for ; Thu, 29 May 2003 05:58:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: from bio.fsu.edu (bio.fsu.edu [128.186.38.55]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5297D43F85 for ; Thu, 29 May 2003 05:58:04 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gillis@neuro.fsu.edu) Received: from zeus1.neuro.fsu.edu (zeus.neuro.fsu.edu [128.186.21.21]) by bio.fsu.edu (8.12.6p2/8.12.6) with ESMTP id h4TD2cjN039897 for ; Thu, 29 May 2003 09:02:39 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from gillis@neuro.fsu.edu) Message-Id: <5.2.0.9.2.20030529085745.00bc3740@mail.neuro.fsu.edu> X-Sender: gillis@mail.neuro.fsu.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.0.9 Date: Thu, 29 May 2003 08:58:01 -0400 To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org From: Chris Mime-Version: 1.0 X-MailScanner: Found to be clean Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.1 Subject: Re: Installing on a IBM PC320 Server X-BeenThere: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Gathering place for new users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 29 May 2003 12:58:05 -0000 David, check out this page: http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/install-steps.html Before you install and configure FreeBSD on your system, there is an important subject that you should be aware of, especially if you have multiple hard drives. In a PC running a BIOS-dependent operating system such as MS-DOS or Microsoft Windows, the BIOS is able to abstract the normal disk drive order, and the operating system goes along with the change. This allows the user to boot from a disk drive other than the so-called ``primary master''. A user who is accustomed to taking advantage of these features may become surprised when the results with FreeBSD are not as expected. FreeBSD does not use the BIOS, and does not know the ``logical BIOS drive mapping''. This can lead to very perplexing situations, especially when drives are physically identical in geometry, and have also been made as data clones of one another. When using FreeBSD, always restore the BIOS to natural drive numbering before installing FreeBSD, and then leave it that way. If you need to switch drives around, then do so, but do it the hard way, and open the case and move the jumpers and cables. hope this helps, Chris At 05:26 PM 5/28/2003 -0500, you wrote: >I have an old IBM PC320 Server with the following hardware (use to have >Microsoft SBS 4.5 installed before I tried to install FreeBSD): > >128MB RAM >2 (4.5GB) Quantum Viking WSE SCSI hard drives, one is SCSI ID#0 and the >other SCSI ID#1 >SCSI ID#7 Adaptec AHA-2940 SCSI controller >SCSI ID#2 HP 35470A Tape Drive >SCSI ID#3 IBM CDRM00203 SCSI CD-ROM >Trident TGVA (1MB) video card >2 (100Mhz) Pentium Processors > >Installed FreeBSD 4.8 (and also tried FreeBSD 4.2) with no hiccups using the >outlined installation in the FreeBSD handbook with no other operating >systems. When I go to reboot, the Boot Manager comes up with two options: >F1 FreeBSD and F5 Drive 1 (or F5 Drive 0, depending if I select F5). >Neither work. It will not boot past this point. What am I doing wrong? I >know it probably has something to do with my SCSI ID's but I don't have a >clue what arrangement or BIOS settings that need to be adjusted. Has anyone >installed on this type of server and if so, what settings are needed on the >physical server. Or is there a way to get around it in the installation >process. Thanks for all your help! I'd really like to get FreeBSD going on >this particular box. > >David Nicholas >osuisn01@charter.net > > >_______________________________________________ >freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org mailing list >http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-newbies >To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-newbies-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" /************************************** Chris Gillis Network/Systems Administrator, Webmaster, all around computer guy :) Neuroscience @ FSU office: 850-644-4876 fax: 850-644-0989 **************************************/ From owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Fri May 30 03:17:58 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BDC6237B404 for ; Fri, 30 May 2003 03:17:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: from fmx1.freemail.hu (fmx1.freemail.hu [195.228.242.221]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 8994543F85 for ; Fri, 30 May 2003 03:17:57 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gannater@freemail.hu) Received: (qmail 91158 invoked from network); 30 May 2003 12:17:56 +0200 Received: from fm6.freemail.hu (195.228.242.206) by fmx1.freemail.hu with SMTP; 30 May 2003 12:17:56 +0200 Received: (qmail 26962 invoked by uid 3644897); 30 May 2003 12:17:56 +0200 Date: Fri, 30 May 2003 12:17:56 +0200 (CEST) From: =?ISO-8859-2?Q?Gannater_J=E1nos?= To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Message-ID: X-Originating-IP: [81.182.48.229] X-HTTP-User-Agent: Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 6.0; Windows NT 5.1) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=ISO-8859-2 Subject: passwd again X-BeenThere: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Gathering place for new users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 30 May 2003 10:17:59 -0000 Hello, I again have a real newbie question. As you know I deleteted the users. :(( And of course some programs need special users, so that they can run. For example postfix. How can I create a postfix user, that look-ed like this: postfix:*:1006:1006:Postfix Mail System:/var/spool/postfix:/sbin/nologin And does it need a password? Bye, From owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Fri May 30 03:28:59 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0143237B401 for ; Fri, 30 May 2003 03:28:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: from prioris.mini.pw.edu.pl (prioris.mini.pw.edu.pl [194.29.178.2]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 406FB43FDF for ; Fri, 30 May 2003 03:28:58 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from G.Czaplinski@prioris.mini.pw.edu.pl) Received: from localhost (localhost.mini.pw.edu.pl [127.0.0.1]) by prioris.mini.pw.edu.pl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 96C8024396; Fri, 30 May 2003 12:28:55 +0200 (CEST) Received: by prioris.mini.pw.edu.pl (Postfix, from userid 1368) id ACD292438D; Fri, 30 May 2003 12:28:50 +0200 (CEST) Date: Fri, 30 May 2003 12:28:50 +0200 From: Grzegorz Czaplinski To: Gannater =?iso-8859-2?Q?J=E1nos?= Message-ID: <20030530102850.GA50758@prioris.mini.pw.edu.pl> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="VbJkn9YxBvnuCH5J" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i X-PGP: http://prioris.mini.pw.edu.pl/~gregory/pgp.txt X-3w: http://prioris.mini.pw.edu.pl/~gregory/ X-Virus-Scanned: by AMaViS (prioris) cc: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Subject: Re: passwd again X-BeenThere: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Gathering place for new users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 30 May 2003 10:28:59 -0000 --VbJkn9YxBvnuCH5J Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-2 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Fri, May 30, 2003 at 12:17:56PM +0200, Gannater J=E1nos wrote: > Hello, >=20 > I again have a real newbie question. > As you know I deleteted the users. :(( > And of course some programs need special users, so that they can run. > For example postfix. > How can I create a postfix user, that look-ed like this: > postfix:*:1006:1006:Postfix Mail System:/var/spool/postfix:/sbin/nologin > And does it need a password? >=20 :) pw useradd -u 1006 -g 1006 -c "Postfix Mail System" -d /var/spool/postfix -m -s /sbin/nologin -h - -n postfix It does not need the password. :) Cheers, gregory=09 -- Grzegorz Czaplinski "The Power to Serve, Right for the Power Users!" - http://www.FreeBSD.org/ Fingerprint: EB77 E19D CFA2 5736 810F 847C A70F A275 2489 469F --VbJkn9YxBvnuCH5J Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (FreeBSD) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iEYEARECAAYFAj7XMmIACgkQpw+idSSJRp9auACfUVrAF1Fkmapez/mdh4pmG8mP hRcAmwWiw4tVpzZTTqZa+PHLPVoi80KA =HysE -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --VbJkn9YxBvnuCH5J-- From owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Fri May 30 19:10:17 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E106637B401 for ; Fri, 30 May 2003 19:10:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 669B843FAF for ; Fri, 30 May 2003 19:10:17 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from sue@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (sue@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h4V2AHUp006884 for ; Fri, 30 May 2003 19:10:17 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from sue@freefall.freebsd.org) Received: (from sue@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.12.9/8.12.9/Submit) id h4V2AHaS006882 for freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org; Fri, 30 May 2003 19:10:17 -0700 (PDT) Date: Fri, 30 May 2003 19:10:17 -0700 (PDT) From: Sue Blake Message-Id: <200305310210.h4V2AHaS006882@freefall.freebsd.org> To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Subject: FreeBSD Newbies FAK X-BeenThere: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Gathering place for new users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 31 May 2003 02:10:18 -0000 FreeBSD-Newbies First Aid Kit This is a regular posting to the FreeBSD-Newbies mailing list. It is also available at http://people.freebsd.org/~sue/newbies/fak.html FreeBSD-Questions@FreeBSD.ORG is the place to send all questions about installing, configuring, running and using FreeBSD. All help requests are handled by FreeBSD-Questions, including newbies questions. It is particularly important to send all installation questions and answers to FreeBSD-Questions so that they only appear in one place. FreeBSD-Newbies is different. We don't ask for FreeBSD help or answer how-to questions. It is a discussion forum for newbies. FreeBSD-Newbies provides a place for new FreeBSD users to meet and covers any of the activities of newbies that are not already dealt with elsewhere. Examples include helping each other to learn more on our own, finding and using resources, problem solving techniques, how to seek help elsewhere, how to use mailing lists and which lists to use, general chat, making mistakes, boasting, sharing ideas, stories, moral (but not technical) support, and taking an active part in the FreeBSD community. We take our problems and support questions to freebsd-questions, and use freebsd-newbies to meet others who are doing the same things that we do as newbies. We can help people to use the FreeBSD mailing lists and resources, or to interact more productively with the broader FreeBSD community. These are not support questions, and not technical, so we deal with them here. Everyone can help with these new user orientation requests. One of the things we do together is learn more effective ways to find help when we need it. Here are some suggestions: When something doesn't work the way you expect 1. First look at the errata for your release of FreeBSD at http://www.FreeBSD.ORG/releases/ for the latest information and security advisories. 2. Search the Handbook, FAQ, and mail archives at http://www.FreeBSD.ORG/search/search.html 3. If you still have a question or problem, collect the output of `uname -a' and of any relevant program(s) and email your question to FreeBSD-questions@FreeBSD.ORG. Mailing lists When you have a problem that you can't solve by yourself, there's only one support mailing list and that's FreeBSD-questions@FreeBSD.ORG. FreeBSD-questions helps with installation and basic setup as well as more general and advanced questions. You don't have to actually join freebsd-questions before asking a question there. Replies to your question will normally be sent to you personally as well as to the list. Just make sure you have read and followed the guidelines for posting, because you might find them different to what you're used to. If you do subscribe to freebsd-questions you'll have the advantage of seeing all of the recent questions and their answers. Before you post to FreeBSD-questions, please read the guidelines at http://www.lemis.com/questions.html Many of the people who answer FreeBSD-questions are very knowledgeable, but they get frustrated when they get questions which are difficult to understand. http://www.lemis.com/email.html is worth reading too. If you're not sure that you can follow these guidelines, come back and ask the other newbies for help on how to post an effective question to the support mailing list. Maybe your question has been asked before. If you search the mailing list archives at http://www.freebsd.org/search/search.html first you might get the answer right away. It's always worth trying. Other mailing lists (http://www.freebsd.org/handbook/eresources.html#ERESOURCES-CHARTERS) cover specialised areas and many are more developer-oriented. You'll need to read their charters carefully before participating, but it's probably a good idea to ask on either -newbies or -questions for advice about where to post a more specialised question. FreeBSD-announce is a very low volume read-only list for occasional announcements, such as notice of new releases, and the Really Quick Newsletter. It's worth subscribing to FreeBSD-announce too. Manuals You'll always be expected to show that you have made some effort to use the available documentation before asking for help. That's not always as easy as it sounds! If you know what documentation you need but can't locate it, send a brief query to FreeBSD-questions. If you don't know what you need, always have trouble finding it, or can't make any sense of it when you do, ask some patient newbies to steer you in the right direction. Anyone interested in writing or reviewing documentation for FreeBSD is encouraged to join the FreeBSD Documentation Project. Details are at http://www.freebsd.org/docproj/docproj.html Other resources A resource list is available at http://www.freebsd.org/projects/newbies.html to help new and inexperienced FreeBSD users to find relevant information quickly. It includes books, on line documents and tutorials, and links to web pages that other newbies have found useful for learning. If you have a suggestion for good material to be included, please write to freebsd-newbies and tell us about it. But I have seen people asking questions here! It is quite common for people to send the wrong kind of post to a mailing list. Because we're newbies it'll certainly happen here from time to time. The best thing to do if you see a message that doesn't belong on a list is to ignore it. There's always someone around whose job it is to sort these problems out privately. The posts to the lists go straight through, whatever their content. It is going to be confusing for a little while because we're all newbies so we all make mistakes. That's OK. One thing we're going to see a fair bit is people posting questions, believing they're doing the right thing by posting here as newbies, not realising how it works. If someone answers those questions the situation will snowball. There's nothing wrong with helping someone to redirect their question to freebsd-questions, but please do so gently. There's nothing wrong with the occasional mistake either. So all questions, requests for help, etc still go to freebsd-questions as usual. Ours is more of a discussion group, a place where newbies can relax with other newbies and focus more on our successes than on our temporary imperfection. We can talk about things here that are not allowed on freebsd-questions. We're also a bit freer to make the mistakes that we need to make in order to learn. _________________________________________________________________ Mailing list membership To Subscribe to FreeBSD-Newbies: Use the easy form at http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-newbies to subscribe to the FreeBSD-Newbies mailing list, or to change your subscription details if you are already a member. To Unsubscribe from FreeBSD-Newbies: To stop receiving list emails, simply follow the unsubscribe link that appears at the bottom of each email you receive from the mailing list. Mail sent to freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org is distributed to all members of the FreeBSD-Newbies mailing list. _________________________________________________________________ From owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Fri May 30 20:29:17 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B73EF37B401 for ; Fri, 30 May 2003 20:29:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: from troilo.qlp.com.ar (host-200-080-158-073.bbt.net.ar [200.80.158.73]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2E11C43F85 for ; Fri, 30 May 2003 20:29:17 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from fmaresca@troilo.qlp.com.ar) Received: by troilo.qlp.com.ar (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 351D317028; Sat, 31 May 2003 00:31:55 -0300 (ART) Date: Sat, 31 May 2003 00:31:55 -0300 From: "Fernando M. Maresca" To: Lista Newbies FreeBSD Message-ID: <20030531033155.GA90593@ciudad.com.ar> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.4i Subject: kbdcontrol nor rc.conf but kbdmap problem X-BeenThere: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: "Fernando M. Maresca" List-Id: Gathering place for new users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 31 May 2003 03:29:18 -0000 Hey everybody, is this the right place, or freebsd-questions is? The quests are: 1) kbdcontrol -l some-map nor rc.conf entry can set the keymap, but kbdmap does. Any idea? 2) Is there a way to know for a file to wich pakage belongs to, i mean, I need to know wich port/package puts /etc/X11R6/include/X11/Xft/*, because i can't get it updated and mozilla and phoenix depends on them to build, but i can't find where the hell is the port that i need to remake. I recently makeworld, and one more time make XFree86 and any port i suspect be envolved. Xft port's .c includes this libs but my versions are old an the fucntions are diferents. Thanks a lot, Fernando From owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Fri May 30 20:54:32 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F419037B401 for ; Fri, 30 May 2003 20:54:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: from hotmail.com (sea1-f123.sea1.hotmail.com [207.68.163.123]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 86E6843F85 for ; Fri, 30 May 2003 20:54:31 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from crollins666@hotmail.com) Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Fri, 30 May 2003 20:54:31 -0700 Received: from 216.19.22.118 by sea1fd.sea1.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Sat, 31 May 2003 03:54:30 GMT X-Originating-IP: [216.19.22.118] X-Originating-Email: [crollins666@hotmail.com] From: "clayton rollins" To: f_maresca@ciudad.com.ar Date: Sat, 31 May 2003 03:54:30 +0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 31 May 2003 03:54:31.0343 (UTC) FILETIME=[574E4BF0:01C32728] cc: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Subject: Re: kbdcontrol nor rc.conf but kbdmap problem X-BeenThere: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Gathering place for new users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 31 May 2003 03:54:32 -0000 On Sat, 31 May 2003 00:31:55 "Fernando M. Maresca" wrote > >Hey everybody, > is this the right place, or freebsd-questions is? questions would probably be more proper. > The quests are: > 1) kbdcontrol -l some-map nor rc.conf entry can set the keymap, but > kbdmap does. Any idea? try using bindkey to build a good startup script. (bindkey -h for help; no man page.) You could put the commands into your shell rc file (~/.cshrc) or create a script in /usr/local/etc/rc.d/ > 2) Is there a way to know for a file to wich pakage belongs to, i > mean, I need to know wich port/package puts > /etc/X11R6/include/X11/Xft/*, because i can't get it updated and > mozilla and phoenix depends on them to build, but i can't find where > the hell is the port that i need to remake. > I recently makeworld, and one more time make XFree86 and any port i > suspect be envolved. Xft port's .c includes this libs but my > versions are old an the fucntions are diferents. > I'm not sure how to do what you want to do. But, portupgrade is a wonderful tool for managing dependencies. Run pkgdb -u (or -F if you've already created one). Then portupgrade -r -R mozilla should get the packeges you need. > Thanks a lot, > Fernando > Hope that helps, Clayton _________________________________________________________________ Tired of spam? Get advanced junk mail protection with MSN 8. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail From owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Fri May 30 20:56:52 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EE4B337B401 for ; Fri, 30 May 2003 20:56:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: from hotmail.com (sea1-f77.sea1.hotmail.com [207.68.163.77]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 827C143F75 for ; Fri, 30 May 2003 20:56:52 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from crollins666@hotmail.com) Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Fri, 30 May 2003 20:56:52 -0700 Received: from 216.19.22.118 by sea1fd.sea1.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Sat, 31 May 2003 03:56:52 GMT X-Originating-IP: [216.19.22.118] X-Originating-Email: [crollins666@hotmail.com] From: "clayton rollins" To: f_maresca@ciudad.com.ar Date: Sat, 31 May 2003 03:56:52 +0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 31 May 2003 03:56:52.0313 (UTC) FILETIME=[AB549C90:01C32728] cc: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Subject: Re: kbdcontrol nor rc.conf but kbdmap problem X-BeenThere: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Gathering place for new users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 31 May 2003 03:56:53 -0000 Edit that last message. It looks like bindkey will only work for C shell... Sorry... _________________________________________________________________ Add photos to your messages with MSN 8. Get 2 months FREE*. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/featuredemail From owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Sat May 31 04:59:29 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 49B5137B401 for ; Sat, 31 May 2003 04:59:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail3.netbeat.de (mail3.netbeat.de [62.208.140.20]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id ECD7843F93 for ; Sat, 31 May 2003 04:59:26 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from alex@gutza36.de) Received: (qmail 4293 invoked by uid 101); 31 May 2003 11:59:25 -0000 Received: from dsl01.212.114.236.62.nefkom.net (HELO Xanthos) (212.114.236.62) by mail3.netbeat.de with SMTP; 31 May 2003 11:59:25 -0000 From: "alex@home" To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org, rofug@rofug.ro Date: Sat, 31 May 2003 13:59:22 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: <3ED8B53A.330.4BDD41@localhost> Priority: normal X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v4.11) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT Content-Description: Mail message body X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.1 Subject: gdm2-2.4.1.3 X-BeenThere: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Gathering place for new users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 31 May 2003 11:59:29 -0000 hi, i have tried to set up the Gnome Desktop Manager on my freshly installed 4.8-STABLE box, but some errors refuse to disappear: error msg: gdm_config_parse: Authdir /usr/X11R6/share/gnome/gdm is not owned by user nobody, group gdm. Aborting. _________________________ what i have already done: #pkg_info -L gdm2-2.4.1.3 /usr/X11R6/bin/gdm ... added this line in the group file in /etc/ gdm:*:11: same for passwd in /etc/ gdm:*:11:11:Gnome Desktop Manager:/usr/X11R6/etc/gdm:/sbin/nologin and set the entry in the /etc/ttys to /gdm on i couldn' manage to set the owner of the dir/files: (why?!) /usr/X11R6/etc/gdm/ drwxr-xr-x 3 root gdm 512 May 29 18:47 gdm gdm.conf in /usr/X11R6/etc/gdm/ -rw-r--r-- 1 root gdm 2628 May 31 10:20 gdm.conf #chown gdm .keep_me chown: gdm: illegal user name _____________________________ what am i doing wrong?! any help will be appreciated;-) thanx in advance *bsd-n00b From owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Sat May 31 10:21:17 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5F88E37B401 for ; Sat, 31 May 2003 10:21:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ms-smtp-01.southeast.rr.com (ms-smtp-01.southeast.rr.com [24.93.67.82]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6C02443F85 for ; Sat, 31 May 2003 10:21:16 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from marcus@marcuscom.com) Received: from creme-brulee.marcuscom.com (rdu57-17-158.nc.rr.com [66.57.17.158])h4VHFsd2029768; Sat, 31 May 2003 13:15:55 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [192.168.1.4] (shumai.marcuscom.com [192.168.1.4]) h4VHIvV8001001; Sat, 31 May 2003 13:18:57 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from marcus@marcuscom.com) From: Joe Marcus Clarke To: "alex@home" In-Reply-To: <3ED8B53A.330.4BDD41@localhost> References: <3ED8B53A.330.4BDD41@localhost> Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="=-AteVNUR8ow8D502ay0fU" Organization: MarcusCom, Inc. Message-Id: <1054401672.6433.10.camel@shumai.marcuscom.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Ximian Evolution 1.3.92 (Preview Release) Date: 31 May 2003 13:21:13 -0400 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-8.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_01,EMAIL_ATTRIBUTION,IN_REP_TO,PGP_SIGNATURE_2, QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT,REFERENCES,REPLY_WITH_QUOTES autolearn=ham version=2.55 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) cc: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org cc: rofug@rofug.ro Subject: Re: gdm2-2.4.1.3 X-BeenThere: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Gathering place for new users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 31 May 2003 17:21:17 -0000 --=-AteVNUR8ow8D502ay0fU Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sat, 2003-05-31 at 07:59, alex@home wrote: > hi,=20 > i have tried to set up the Gnome Desktop Manager on my freshly installed > 4.8-STABLE box, but some errors refuse to disappear: >=20 > error msg: > gdm_config_parse: Authdir /usr/X11R6/share/gnome/gdm is not owned by=20 > user nobody, group gdm. Aborting. First, /usr/X11R6/share/gnome/gdm should be owned by gdm:gdm. Make sure you're not using an old /usr/X11R6/etc/gdm/gdm.conf. You might want to copy the factory-gdm.conf over gdm.conf just to be sure. >=20 > _________________________ > what i have already done: >=20 > #pkg_info -L gdm2-2.4.1.3 > /usr/X11R6/bin/gdm > ... >=20 > added this line in the group file in /etc/ > gdm:*:11: >=20 > same for passwd in /etc/ > gdm:*:11:11:Gnome Desktop Manager:/usr/X11R6/etc/gdm:/sbin/nologin This should have already been done for you. The gdm user has uid 92, and you need to add this entry to /etc/master.passwd: gdm:*:92:92::0:0:GDM Sandbox:/:/sbin/nologin Change your /etc/group entry so the gid matches. >=20 > and set the entry in the /etc/ttys to=20 > /gdm on Don't do this. Read the pkg-message from the gdm2 port. You need to use the included rc script to start gdm2. Joe >=20 > i couldn' manage to set the owner of the dir/files: (why?!) >=20 > /usr/X11R6/etc/gdm/ > drwxr-xr-x 3 root gdm 512 May 29 18:47 gdm >=20 > gdm.conf in /usr/X11R6/etc/gdm/ > -rw-r--r-- 1 root gdm 2628 May 31 10:20 gdm.conf >=20 > #chown gdm .keep_me > chown: gdm: illegal user name > _____________________________ >=20 > what am i doing wrong?! >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 > any help will be appreciated;-) > thanx in advance > *bsd-n00b > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-newbies > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-newbies-unsubscribe@freebsd.org= " >=20 > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.o= rg" --=20 PGP Key : http://www.marcuscom.com/pgp.asc --=-AteVNUR8ow8D502ay0fU Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Description: This is a digitally signed message part -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.2 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQA+2OSIb2iPiv4Uz4cRAgsHAJ0V5c/PnoGKM3nLbSQ71m0O3nZBQQCfWpW9 pIQjnGcW1oaFQy2A9noX8pM= =aaTf -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --=-AteVNUR8ow8D502ay0fU--