From owner-freebsd-performance@FreeBSD.ORG Sun May 18 05:24:52 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-performance@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E045937B404 for ; Sun, 18 May 2003 05:24:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail.rdslink.ro (mail.rdslink.ro [193.231.236.20]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 68ABE43FAF for ; Sun, 18 May 2003 05:24:50 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from enache@rdslink.ro) Received: (qmail 14238 invoked from network); 18 May 2003 12:28:19 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ratsnest.hole) (10.100.0.30) by mail.rdslink.ro with SMTP; 18 May 2003 12:28:19 -0000 Date: Sun, 18 May 2003 15:26:19 +0300 From: Enache Adrian To: Poul-Henning Kamp Message-ID: <20030518122619.GB826@ratsnest.hole> Mail-Followup-To: Poul-Henning Kamp , Narvi , freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org, freebsd-performance@freebsd.org, Marcel Moolenaar References: <20030516002105.K40030-100000@haldjas.folklore.ee> <3641.1053034682@critter.freebsd.dk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <3641.1053034682@critter.freebsd.dk> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4i X-Mailman-Approved-At: Mon, 19 May 2003 13:14:16 -0700 cc: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org cc: freebsd-performance@freebsd.org cc: Narvi cc: Marcel Moolenaar Subject: Re: Optimizations. X-BeenThere: freebsd-performance@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Performance/tuning List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 18 May 2003 12:24:53 -0000 On Thu, May 15, 2003 at 11:38:02PM +0200, Poul-Henning Kamp wrote: > So I really think the band of merry men we are talking about, if they > can be interested, would do much more good if they would start out > building functional and regression tests for our most critical > facilities. > > I can't speak for the other heavy-duty guys in the project, but I > would personally be _really_ _REALLY_ grateful if I could "cd > /usr/src ; make test" and know that a significant fraction of our > functionality worked if it returned a zero exit code. My humble opinion on the subject: The only sane principle will probably be "no bugfix/modification without a regression test" but I guess this isn't going to happen ... My limited experience is with Perl's testsuite shaking bugs in FreeBSD's libraries: bin/51535, bin/49087. And with FreeBSD's malloc completely trashing the performance of any realloc addicted program, like Perl. Regards, Adi From owner-freebsd-performance@FreeBSD.ORG Tue May 20 13:40:55 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-performance@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6AF4837B404 for ; Tue, 20 May 2003 13:40:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: from bluhayz.homeunix.org (ip68-106-103-50.nv.nv.cox.net [68.106.103.50]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 682C643FBD for ; Tue, 20 May 2003 13:40:54 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dero@bluhayz.homeunix.org) Received: from bluhayz.homeunix.org (localhost.homeunix.org [127.0.0.1]) h4KKfueV003089 for ; Tue, 20 May 2003 16:41:56 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from dero@bluhayz.homeunix.org) Received: (from nobody@localhost) by bluhayz.homeunix.org (8.12.8p1/8.12.8/Submit) id h4KKftxC003088; Tue, 20 May 2003 16:41:55 -0400 (EDT) X-Authentication-Warning: bluhayz.homeunix.org: nobody set sender to dero@bluhayz.homeunix.org using -f Received: from 172.180.159.70 (SquirrelMail authenticated user dero) by bluhayz.homeunix.org with HTTP; Tue, 20 May 2003 16:41:55 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <3120.172.180.159.70.1053463315.squirrel@bluhayz.homeunix.org> Date: Tue, 20 May 2003 16:41:55 -0400 (EDT) From: "agent dero" To: freebsd-performance@freebsd.org User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 X-Priority: 3 Importance: Normal Subject: X-BeenThere: freebsd-performance@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Performance/tuning List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 20 May 2003 20:40:55 -0000 I gotta question. I am contemplating buying the new AMD Opteron for a newer FreeBSD server. I am certain because of it's x86 compatibility running FBSD won't be a problem, and I know that there is a 64Bit Apache underways, but is there any 64 bit MySQL Server on the way? Or does MySQL compile with that option? I am certain it can be built with Hyper Threading, but can that help performance on a single 64 bit CPU? Please help! (before I invest :-)) -- -------- TSD Hosting with FreeBSD From owner-freebsd-performance@FreeBSD.ORG Thu May 22 00:11:20 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-performance@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9202537B401 for ; Thu, 22 May 2003 00:11:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx5.mail.ru (mx5.mail.ru [194.67.23.25]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EA79243F75 for ; Thu, 22 May 2003 00:11:19 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from pavelkraynyukhov@mail.ru) Received: from [80.133.121.57] (port=1642 helo=erfolg) by mx5.mail.ru with smtp id 19IkEL-00008r-00 for freebsd-performance@freebsd.org; Thu, 22 May 2003 11:11:13 +0400 Message-ID: <002901c32031$d332bd30$0101a8c0@erfolg> From: "Pavel Kraynyukhov" To: References: <20030521190037.2041F37B404@hub.freebsd.org> Date: Thu, 22 May 2003 09:14:45 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Subject: Re: freebsd-performance Digest, Vol 3, Issue 11 X-BeenThere: freebsd-performance@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Performance/tuning List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 22 May 2003 07:11:20 -0000 As far as i know HyperThreading is an Intel trademark and technologie as well. AMD has something similar for them processors, but i have no idea is such feature supported by FreeBSD for AMD processors. In adition FreeBSD 5.0 is very unstable on the 64bits platforms. Wait for 5.3 version :) ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Wednesday, May 21, 2003 9:00 PM Subject: freebsd-performance Digest, Vol 3, Issue 11 > Send freebsd-performance mailing list submissions to > freebsd-performance@freebsd.org > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-performance > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > freebsd-performance-request@freebsd.org > > You can reach the person managing the list at > freebsd-performance-owner@freebsd.org > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of freebsd-performance digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. (agent dero) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Tue, 20 May 2003 16:41:55 -0400 (EDT) > From: "agent dero" > To: freebsd-performance@freebsd.org > Message-ID: > <3120.172.180.159.70.1053463315.squirrel@bluhayz.homeunix.org> > Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 > > I gotta question. I am contemplating buying the new AMD Opteron for a > newer FreeBSD server. I am certain because of it's x86 compatibility > running FBSD won't be a problem, and I know that there is a 64Bit Apache > underways, but is there any 64 bit MySQL Server on the way? Or does MySQL > compile with that option? I am certain it can be built with Hyper > Threading, but can that help performance on a single 64 bit CPU? Please > help! (before I invest :-)) > > > -- > -------- > TSD Hosting with FreeBSD > > ------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-performance@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-performance > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-performance-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > End of freebsd-performance Digest, Vol 3, Issue 11 > ************************************************** > From owner-freebsd-performance@FreeBSD.ORG Thu May 22 04:24:51 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-performance@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DF1AD37B401 for ; Thu, 22 May 2003 04:24:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mwinf0504.wanadoo.fr (smtp4.wanadoo.fr [193.252.22.26]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C734043FA3 for ; Thu, 22 May 2003 04:24:50 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from patpro@patpro.net) Received: from patpro.net (unknown [217.128.219.22]) by mwinf0504.wanadoo.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 4855910003DB for ; Thu, 22 May 2003 13:24:47 +0200 (CEST) Date: Thu, 22 May 2003 13:24:46 +0200 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v552) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed From: patpro To: freebsd-performance@freebsd.org Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.552) Subject: threads and performances X-BeenThere: freebsd-performance@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Performance/tuning List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 22 May 2003 11:24:52 -0000 Hello, I use MySQL on several machines running freeBSD, and I was quite surprised to read this : http://jeremy.zawodny.com/blog/archives/000697.html (and http://jeremy.zawodny.com/blog/archives/000203.html) here is the summary of the article : MySQL now runs very well on FreeBSD. I'm no longer steering people toward Linux. There are two important things you should do to make the FreeBSD/MySQL combo work well: (1) build MySQL with LinuxThreads rather than FreeBSD's native threads, and (2) use MySQL 4.x or newer. For more details, keep reading. Is this guy more or less wrong in his explanations about threads ? (I was said so) As I know nothing about threads, but I noticed a similar behavior on MacOSX, and MySQL performances are as bad on FreeBSD as on MacOSX, compared to linux. any explanation/confirmation/correction greatly appreciated. patpro From owner-freebsd-performance@FreeBSD.ORG Thu May 22 05:25:58 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-performance@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8C8BF37B401 for ; Thu, 22 May 2003 05:25:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: from silver.he.iki.fi (silver.he.iki.fi [193.64.42.241]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2628543F85 for ; Thu, 22 May 2003 05:25:57 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from pete@he.iki.fi) Received: from he.iki.fi (localhost.he.iki.fi [127.0.0.1]) by silver.he.iki.fi (8.12.9/8.11.4) with ESMTP id h4MCPrk8001294; Thu, 22 May 2003 15:25:54 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from pete@he.iki.fi) Message-ID: <3ECCC1D1.50609@he.iki.fi> Date: Thu, 22 May 2003 15:25:53 +0300 From: Petri Helenius User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.3) Gecko/20030501 X-Accept-Language: English [en],Finnish [fi] MIME-Version: 1.0 To: patpro References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: freebsd-performance@freebsd.org Subject: Re: threads and performances X-BeenThere: freebsd-performance@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Performance/tuning List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 22 May 2003 12:25:58 -0000 I can confirm that mysql4.0 with linuxthreads works well and reliably even on SMP machines. Pete patpro wrote: > Hello, > > I use MySQL on several machines running freeBSD, and I was quite > surprised to read this : > http://jeremy.zawodny.com/blog/archives/000697.html > (and http://jeremy.zawodny.com/blog/archives/000203.html) > > here is the summary of the article : > > MySQL now runs very well on FreeBSD. I'm no longer steering people > toward Linux. There are two important things you should do to make > the FreeBSD/MySQL combo work well: (1) build MySQL with LinuxThreads > rather than FreeBSD's native threads, and (2) use MySQL 4.x or newer. > For more details, keep reading. > > Is this guy more or less wrong in his explanations about threads ? (I > was said so) > As I know nothing about threads, but I noticed a similar behavior on > MacOSX, and MySQL performances are as bad on FreeBSD as on MacOSX, > compared to linux. > > any explanation/confirmation/correction greatly appreciated. > > patpro > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-performance@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-performance > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-performance-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-performance@FreeBSD.ORG Thu May 22 07:14:36 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-performance@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CAF3937B401 for ; Thu, 22 May 2003 07:14:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lug.org.uk (xinit.lug.org.uk [195.92.253.3]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D9C7643F3F for ; Thu, 22 May 2003 07:14:35 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from andy@strugglers.net) Received: from andy by lug.org.uk with local (Exim 3.33 #2) id 19Iqq2-0006DH-00 for freebsd-performance@freebsd.org; Thu, 22 May 2003 15:14:34 +0100 Date: Thu, 22 May 2003 15:14:34 +0100 From: Andy Smith To: freebsd-performance@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20030522141434.GQ10115@lug.org.uk> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-performance@freebsd.org References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: X-Uptime: 156 days X-URL: http://www.strugglers.net/~andy/ X-Habeas-SWE-1: winter into spring X-Habeas-SWE-2: brightly anticipated X-Habeas-SWE-3: like Habeas SWE (tm) X-Habeas-SWE-4: Copyright 2002 Habeas (tm) X-Habeas-SWE-5: Sender Warranted Email (SWE) (tm). The sender of this X-Habeas-SWE-6: email in exchange for a license for this Habeas X-Habeas-SWE-7: warrant mark warrants that this is a Habeas Compliant X-Habeas-SWE-8: Message (HCM) and not spam. Please report use of this X-Habeas-SWE-9: mark in spam to . User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.1i Subject: Re: threads and performances X-BeenThere: freebsd-performance@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Performance/tuning List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 22 May 2003 14:14:37 -0000 On Thu, May 22, 2003 at 01:24:46PM +0200, patpro wrote: > Hello, > > I use MySQL on several machines running freeBSD, and I was quite > surprised to read this : > http://jeremy.zawodny.com/blog/archives/000697.html > (and http://jeremy.zawodny.com/blog/archives/000203.html) > > here is the summary of the article : > > MySQL now runs very well on FreeBSD. I'm no longer steering people > toward Linux. There are two important things you should do to make > the FreeBSD/MySQL combo work well: (1) build MySQL with LinuxThreads > rather than FreeBSD's native threads, and (2) use MySQL 4.x or newer. > For more details, keep reading. > > Is this guy more or less wrong in his explanations about threads ? (I > was said so) I have no idea about FreeBSD's threading implementation, but since Jeremy Zawodny looks after all of Yahoo!'s MySQL servers and is probably one of the larger users of MySQL on Earth, he _does_ have a wealth of real-world experience to quote from. From owner-freebsd-performance@FreeBSD.ORG Thu May 22 09:17:13 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-performance@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 143B137B404 for ; Thu, 22 May 2003 09:17:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail.ubergeeks.com (lorax.ubergeeks.com [209.145.65.55]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4A63243F85 for ; Thu, 22 May 2003 09:17:12 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from adrian+freebsd-perf@ubergeeks.com) Received: from mail.ubergeeks.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.ubergeeks.com (8.12.8p1/8.12.8) with ESMTP id h4MGHB0D054063; Thu, 22 May 2003 12:17:11 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from adrian+freebsd-perf@ubergeeks.com) Received: from localhost (adrian@localhost)h4MGH81E054060; Thu, 22 May 2003 12:17:11 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from adrian+freebsd-perf@ubergeeks.com) X-Authentication-Warning: lorax.ubergeeks.com: adrian owned process doing -bs Date: Thu, 22 May 2003 12:17:08 -0400 (EDT) From: Adrian Filipi-Martin Sender: adrian@ubergeeks.com To: patpro In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20030522121542.H54052@lorax.ubergeeks.com> References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII cc: freebsd-performance@freebsd.org Subject: Re: threads and performances X-BeenThere: freebsd-performance@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Performance/tuning List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 22 May 2003 16:17:13 -0000 On Thu, 22 May 2003, patpro wrote: > Hello, > > I use MySQL on several machines running freeBSD, and I was quite > surprised to read this : > http://jeremy.zawodny.com/blog/archives/000697.html > (and http://jeremy.zawodny.com/blog/archives/000203.html) > > here is the summary of the article : > > MySQL now runs very well on FreeBSD. I'm no longer steering people > toward Linux. There are two important things you should do to make > the FreeBSD/MySQL combo work well: (1) build MySQL with LinuxThreads > rather than FreeBSD's native threads, and (2) use MySQL 4.x or newer. > For more details, keep reading. > > Is this guy more or less wrong in his explanations about threads ? (I > was said so) > As I know nothing about threads, but I noticed a similar behavior on > MacOSX, and MySQL performances are as bad on FreeBSD as on MacOSX, > compared to linux. If you read further down you find that realpath(3) was one of the treading problems when using native threads. A thread-safe version is on -CURRENT and looks to be scheduled for an MFC real soon. Adrian -- [ adrian@ubergeeks.com ] From owner-freebsd-performance@FreeBSD.ORG Thu May 22 10:32:22 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-performance@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 22AE137B401 for ; Thu, 22 May 2003 10:32:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: from boleskine.patpro.net (boleskine.patpro.net [62.4.20.155]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8574E43FB1 for ; Thu, 22 May 2003 10:32:21 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from patpro@patpro.net) Received: from patpro.net (cassandre [192.168.0.1]) by boleskine.patpro.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CDFAD4B for ; Thu, 22 May 2003 19:32:20 +0200 (CEST) Date: Thu, 22 May 2003 19:32:21 +0200 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v552) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed From: Patrick Proniewski To: freebsd-performance@freebsd.org Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <57F9C33C-8C7B-11D7-BEAB-0030654D97EC@patpro.net> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.552) Subject: X-BeenThere: freebsd-performance@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Performance/tuning List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 22 May 2003 17:32:22 -0000 > From: Petri Helenius > > I can confirm that mysql4.0 with linuxthreads works well and reliably > even on SMP machines. > From: Adrian Filipi-Martin > > If you read further down you find that realpath(3) was one of the > treading problems when using native threads. A thread-safe version is > on > -CURRENT and looks to be scheduled for an MFC real soon. > thank you all for these details. Now on a more general point of view, is there any other application that would really derive benefits from a compilation with linuxthread lib ? patpro From owner-freebsd-performance@FreeBSD.ORG Thu May 22 10:56:31 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-performance@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DBF1E37B401 for ; Thu, 22 May 2003 10:56:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: from dragon.nuxi.com (trang.nuxi.com [66.93.134.19]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3873843F93 for ; Thu, 22 May 2003 10:56:31 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from obrien@NUXI.com) Received: from dragon.nuxi.com (obrien@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by dragon.nuxi.com (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h4MHuGTY081979; Thu, 22 May 2003 10:56:20 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from obrien@dragon.nuxi.com) Received: (from obrien@localhost) by dragon.nuxi.com (8.12.9/8.12.9/Submit) id h4MHuG3W081978; Thu, 22 May 2003 10:56:16 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 22 May 2003 10:56:15 -0700 From: "David O'Brien" To: Pavel Kraynyukhov Message-ID: <20030522175615.GB81438@dragon.nuxi.com> References: <20030521190037.2041F37B404@hub.freebsd.org> <002901c32031$d332bd30$0101a8c0@erfolg> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <002901c32031$d332bd30$0101a8c0@erfolg> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4i X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 5.0-CURRENT Organization: The NUXI BSD Group X-Pgp-Rsa-Fingerprint: B7 4D 3E E9 11 39 5F A3 90 76 5D 69 58 D9 98 7A X-Pgp-Rsa-Keyid: 1024/34F9F9D5 cc: freebsd-performance@freebsd.org Subject: Re: freebsd-performance Digest, Vol 3, Issue 11 X-BeenThere: freebsd-performance@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd-performance@freebsd.org List-Id: Performance/tuning List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 22 May 2003 17:56:32 -0000 On Thu, May 22, 2003 at 09:14:45AM +0200, Pavel Kraynyukhov wrote: > As far as i know HyperThreading is an Intel trademark and technologie as > well. > AMD has something similar for them processors, but i have no idea is such > feature supported by FreeBSD for AMD processors. I can tell you with upmost authority that AMD does not have something like HyperThreading in its CPU's -- not even in K8. > > I gotta question. I am contemplating buying the new AMD Opteron for a > > newer FreeBSD server. I am certain because of it's x86 compatibility > > running FBSD won't be a problem, Nope, no problems: FreeBSD 5.1-BETA #9: Thu May 22 09:20:08 GMT 2003 root@k8.amd.com:/hammer/sys/amd64/compile/GENERIC CPU: AuthenticAMD AMD64 Class Processor Origin = "AuthenticAMD" Id = 0xf40 Stepping = 0 Features=0x78bfbff AMD Features=0xe0500000<,AMIE,,DSP,3DNow!> # file /boot/kernel/kernel /boot/kernel/kernel: ELF 64-bit LSB executable, AMD x86-64, version 1 (FreeBSD), dynamically linked (uses shared libs), not stripped > > and I know that there is a 64Bit Apache > > underways, but is there any 64 bit MySQL Server on the way? Or does MySQL > > compile with that option? I am certain it can be built with Hyper > > Threading, but can that help performance on a single 64 bit CPU? Please > > help! (before I invest :-)) It will perform very well -- HyperThreading does is not the same as having two real processors. Some apps do perform better on a HyperThreaded CPU, others don't. From owner-freebsd-performance@FreeBSD.ORG Thu May 22 15:21:33 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-performance@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E956937B401; Thu, 22 May 2003 15:21:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: from fep1.cogeco.net (smtp.cogeco.net [216.221.81.25]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C999143F93; Thu, 22 May 2003 15:21:32 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from pnmurphy@cogeco.ca) Received: from earth.upton.net (d141-18-230.home.cgocable.net [24.141.18.230]) by fep1.cogeco.net (Postfix) with SMTP id E0BADB17; Thu, 22 May 2003 18:21:31 -0400 (EDT) Date: Thu, 22 May 2003 18:21:16 -0400 From: Paul Murphy To: freebsd-performance@freebsd.org Message-Id: <20030522182116.591c9fe6.pnmurphy@cogeco.ca> In-Reply-To: <20030522175615.GB81438@dragon.nuxi.com> References: <20030521190037.2041F37B404@hub.freebsd.org> <002901c32031$d332bd30$0101a8c0@erfolg> <20030522175615.GB81438@dragon.nuxi.com> X-Mailer: Sylpheed version 0.8.10claws (GTK+ 1.2.10; i386-portbld-freebsd4.8) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg="pgp-sha1"; boundary="=.9P1MymvzX:Yz5K" cc: obrien@freebsd.org Subject: [OT] Re: freebsd-performance Digest, Vol 3, Issue 11 X-BeenThere: freebsd-performance@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Performance/tuning List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 22 May 2003 22:21:34 -0000 --=.9P1MymvzX:Yz5K Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On Thu, 22 May 2003 10:56:15 -0700 "David O'Brien" wrote: > > FreeBSD 5.1-BETA #9: Thu May 22 09:20:08 GMT 2003 > root@k8.amd.com:/hammer/sys/amd64/compile/GENERIC > > CPU: AuthenticAMD AMD64 Class Processor ^^^^^ > Origin = "AuthenticAMD" Id = 0xf40 Stepping = 0 > Features=0x78bfbff ,PGE,MCA,CM > OV,PAT,PSE36,CLFLUSH,MMX,FXSR,SSE,SSE2> > AMD Features=0xe0500000<,AMIE,,DSP,3DNow!> > > > # file /boot/kernel/kernel > /boot/kernel/kernel: ELF 64-bit LSB executable, AMD x86-64, version 1 ^^^^^^^^^^ > (FreeBSD), > dynamically linked (uses shared libs), not stripped > [earth] /home/paul: dmesg FreeBSD 4.8-STABLE #0: Fri May 2 21:12:02 EDT 2003 root@earth.upton.net:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/EARTH CPU: AMD Athlon(tm) Processor (1210.76-MHz 686-class CPU) ^^^^^^^^^ Origin = "AuthenticAMD" Id = 0x642 Stepping = 2 Features=0x183f9ff AMD Features=0xc0440000 [earth] /home/paul: file /kernel /kernel: ELF 32-bit LSB executable, Intel 80386, version 1 (FreeBSD), ^^^^^^^^^^^ dynamically linked (uses shared libs), not stripped Just wondering. Are the above [^^^] just the difference between 4.8 and 5.0, or 32 bit and 64 bit, or did I miss something in the kernel configuration? (I realize I have a 32 bit CPU, I am concerned about the AMD vs. the Intel x86 stuff) [earth] /home/paul: less /sys/i386/conf/EARTH machine i386 cpu I686_CPU [snip] -- Cogeco ergo sum --=.9P1MymvzX:Yz5K Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.2 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQE+zU1rTv5Mxsi/WPMRAphAAJ43yAqD7/ZQBwPxC4L5TPa3NFX9zgCffQ2Z SDyN8YrCcbk5Pq38wTkPTDk= =WykI -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --=.9P1MymvzX:Yz5K-- From owner-freebsd-performance@FreeBSD.ORG Thu May 22 19:24:59 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-performance@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0037237B401 for ; Thu, 22 May 2003 19:24:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: from dragon.nuxi.com (trang.nuxi.com [66.93.134.19]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 09B3F43FA3 for ; Thu, 22 May 2003 19:24:58 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from obrien@NUXI.com) Received: from dragon.nuxi.com (obrien@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by dragon.nuxi.com (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h4N2OZTY085967; Thu, 22 May 2003 19:24:39 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from obrien@dragon.nuxi.com) Received: (from obrien@localhost) by dragon.nuxi.com (8.12.9/8.12.9/Submit) id h4N2OZdn085966; Thu, 22 May 2003 19:24:35 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 22 May 2003 19:24:34 -0700 From: "David O'Brien" To: Paul Murphy Message-ID: <20030523022434.GA85927@dragon.nuxi.com> References: <20030521190037.2041F37B404@hub.freebsd.org> <002901c32031$d332bd30$0101a8c0@erfolg> <20030522175615.GB81438@dragon.nuxi.com> <20030522182116.591c9fe6.pnmurphy@cogeco.ca> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20030522182116.591c9fe6.pnmurphy@cogeco.ca> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4i X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 5.0-CURRENT Organization: The NUXI BSD Group X-Pgp-Rsa-Fingerprint: B7 4D 3E E9 11 39 5F A3 90 76 5D 69 58 D9 98 7A X-Pgp-Rsa-Keyid: 1024/34F9F9D5 cc: freebsd-performance@freebsd.org Subject: Re: [OT] Re: freebsd-performance Digest, Vol 3, Issue 11 X-BeenThere: freebsd-performance@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd-performance@freebsd.org List-Id: Performance/tuning List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 23 May 2003 02:24:59 -0000 On Thu, May 22, 2003 at 06:21:16PM -0400, Paul Murphy wrote: > > FreeBSD 5.1-BETA #9: Thu May 22 09:20:08 GMT 2003 > > root@k8.amd.com:/hammer/sys/amd64/compile/GENERIC > > > > CPU: AuthenticAMD AMD64 Class Processor > ^^^^^ ... > > # file /boot/kernel/kernel > > /boot/kernel/kernel: ELF 64-bit LSB executable, AMD x86-64, version 1 ^^^^^^^^^^ > Just wondering. Are the above [^^^] just the difference between 4.8 and > 5.0, or 32 bit and 64 bit, or did I miss something in the kernel > configuration? (I realize I have a 32 bit CPU, I am concerned about the > AMD vs. the Intel x86 stuff) What I posted is a full 64-bit FreeBSD/amd64 kernel running on K8 system.