From owner-freebsd-ppc@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Oct 26 01:08:32 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E54B016A4BF for ; Sun, 26 Oct 2003 01:08:32 -0800 (PST) Received: from dixie.svsecure.net (dixie.svsecure.net [64.247.1.34]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2D67443FF3 for ; Sun, 26 Oct 2003 01:08:06 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from info@bardic.com) Received: from nobody by dixie.svsecure.net with local (Exim 4.24) id 1ADgsV-00055G-TO for freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org; Sun, 26 Oct 2003 04:08:03 -0500 To: FREEBSD-PPC From: Roger Barnette Date: Sun, 26 Oct 2003 3:46:24 EST MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - dixie.svsecure.net X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - freebsd.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [99 99] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - bardic.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.1 Subject: DigiTales newsletter: Last call... 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From owner-freebsd-ppc@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Oct 26 16:54:37 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2183B16A4BF for ; Sun, 26 Oct 2003 16:54:37 -0800 (PST) Received: from dommail.onthenet.com.au (dommail.OntheNet.com.au [203.13.70.57]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 60FBC43FAF for ; Sun, 26 Oct 2003 16:54:35 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from peterg@ptree32.com.au) Received: from dommail.onthenet.com.au (localhost.onthenet.com.au [127.0.0.1]) by dommail.onthenet.com.au (Mirapoint Messaging Server MOS 3.2.4-GA) with ESMTP id ABW19247; Mon, 27 Oct 2003 10:54:18 +1000 (EST) From: Message-Id: <200310270054.ABW19247@dommail.onthenet.com.au> Received: from 203.144.29.242 by dommail.onthenet.com.au (Mirapoint Messaging Server MOS 3.2.4-GA) with HTTP/1.1; Mon, 27 Oct 2003 10:54:18 +1000 Date: Mon, 27 Oct 2003 10:54:18 +1000 To: Will Barton X-Mailer: Webmail Mirapoint Direct 3.2.4-GA MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: Will Barton cc: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: New tarball available X-BeenThere: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the PowerPC List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 27 Oct 2003 00:54:37 -0000 Hi Will, >when it gets to the 'mountroot>' prompt, I get a >"panic: Root mount failed", and it drops to the 'db>' >prompt, and continues to scroll as though the Enter >key is stuck until I hit another key (any key), at >which point it stops scrolling, but I cannot type anything >at all. That's the symptom of having a USB keyboard - FreeBSD and OpenFirmware are both messing with USB registers, and phantom keystrokes are the result. I've seen this exact behaviour on my eMac when disabling syscons. Mmmm... it might be possible to create a mode where OpenFirmware is used for character output, but FreeBSD's USB kbd is used for input. I'll have a think about it. later, Peter. From owner-freebsd-ppc@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Oct 26 17:03:12 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 96BFE16A4B3 for ; Sun, 26 Oct 2003 17:03:12 -0800 (PST) Received: from dommail.onthenet.com.au (dommail.OntheNet.com.au [203.13.70.57]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 043474400B for ; Sun, 26 Oct 2003 17:03:10 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from peterg@ptree32.com.au) Received: from dommail.onthenet.com.au (localhost.onthenet.com.au [127.0.0.1]) by dommail.onthenet.com.au (Mirapoint Messaging Server MOS 3.2.4-GA) with ESMTP id ABW19495; Mon, 27 Oct 2003 11:03:05 +1000 (EST) From: Message-Id: <200310270103.ABW19495@dommail.onthenet.com.au> Received: from 203.144.29.242 by dommail.onthenet.com.au (Mirapoint Messaging Server MOS 3.2.4-GA) with HTTP/1.1; Mon, 27 Oct 2003 11:03:05 +1000 Date: Mon, 27 Oct 2003 11:03:05 +1000 To: Alex Zepeda X-Mailer: Webmail Mirapoint Direct 3.2.4-GA MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: New tarball available X-BeenThere: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the PowerPC List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 27 Oct 2003 01:03:12 -0000 Hi Alex, >I believe... but am not 100% sure that the older OF versions >(at least what I'm using, 2.01f) can handle a pure ISO FS >just fine. It just doesn't recognize the ISO versioning >stuff by default. I think that's right: problem is, the older OFW versions don't understand the hybrid format, so at least the loader should be able to read both (instead of just the hybrid like my patched one does). >Does syscons have the ability to use off the shelf VGA >cards? An accelerated console would be very keen indeed >(something else NetBSD lacks). Syscons/VGA requires that the VGA card be set up in VGA mode. OFW doesn't do this: it puts the card into linear framebuffer 8-bit mode. I'm a bit out of my depth here, but I think that the onboard ROMs on VGA cards set up the legacy VGA mode - I don't think they power-up that way. So, I don't believe you can just stick an off-the-shelf VGA card into a Mac and expect it to work. Now, regarding accelerated rendering: this is the domain of the KGI-for-BSD project. Last time I looked they had support for a number of cards that are in Macs, but I don't think they have the syscons-style VTY switching yet. later, Peter. From owner-freebsd-ppc@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Oct 26 17:04:12 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4B09B16A4B3 for ; Sun, 26 Oct 2003 17:04:12 -0800 (PST) Received: from dommail.onthenet.com.au (dommail.OntheNet.com.au [203.13.70.57]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3588743FB1 for ; Sun, 26 Oct 2003 17:04:11 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from peterg@ptree32.com.au) Received: from dommail.onthenet.com.au (localhost.onthenet.com.au [127.0.0.1]) by dommail.onthenet.com.au (Mirapoint Messaging Server MOS 3.2.4-GA) with ESMTP id ABW19514; Mon, 27 Oct 2003 11:04:05 +1000 (EST) From: Message-Id: <200310270104.ABW19514@dommail.onthenet.com.au> Received: from 203.144.29.242 by dommail.onthenet.com.au (Mirapoint Messaging Server MOS 3.2.4-GA) with HTTP/1.1; Mon, 27 Oct 2003 11:04:05 +1000 Date: Mon, 27 Oct 2003 11:04:05 +1000 To: David Leimbach X-Mailer: Webmail Mirapoint Direct 3.2.4-GA MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: New tarball available X-BeenThere: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the PowerPC List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 27 Oct 2003 01:04:12 -0000 >Yeah.. the width is wrong in kernel.dave too. It looks > good though :). Good as in it does render correctly, but with an incorrect width ? Or is the screen garbled ? later, Peter. From owner-freebsd-ppc@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Oct 26 17:53:56 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9866216A4BF for ; Sun, 26 Oct 2003 17:53:56 -0800 (PST) Received: from smtpout.mac.com (A17-250-248-83.apple.com [17.250.248.83]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5041643FA3 for ; Sun, 26 Oct 2003 17:53:54 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from leimy2k@mac.com) Received: from mac.com (smtpin07-en2 [10.13.10.152]) by smtpout.mac.com (8.12.6/MantshX 2.0) with ESMTP id h9R1vVbo011776; Sun, 26 Oct 2003 17:57:31 -0800 (PST) Received: from [192.168.1.200] (adsl-19-141-157.jan.bellsouth.net [68.19.141.157]) (authenticated bits=0)h9R1rpCQ005974; Sun, 26 Oct 2003 17:53:52 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <200310270104.ABW19514@dommail.onthenet.com.au> References: <200310270104.ABW19514@dommail.onthenet.com.au> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v606) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Message-Id: <621A34B8-0820-11D8-A78E-000A95AFBEB4@mac.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: David Leimbach Date: Sun, 26 Oct 2003 19:53:38 -0600 To: peterg@ptree32.com.au X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.606) cc: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: New tarball available X-BeenThere: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the PowerPC List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 27 Oct 2003 01:53:56 -0000 On Oct 26, 2003, at 7:04 PM, peterg@ptree32.com.au wrote: >> Yeah.. the width is wrong in kernel.dave too. It looks >> good though :). > > Good as in it does render correctly, but with an incorrect > width ? Or is the screen garbled ? > Good looking text ... wrong width :) > later, > > Peter. From owner-freebsd-ppc@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Oct 27 05:13:51 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E2D9D16A4B3 for ; Mon, 27 Oct 2003 05:13:51 -0800 (PST) Received: from duke.cs.duke.edu (duke.cs.duke.edu [152.3.140.1]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 93ED843FCB for ; Mon, 27 Oct 2003 05:13:50 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gallatin@cs.duke.edu) Received: from grasshopper.cs.duke.edu (grasshopper.cs.duke.edu [152.3.145.30]) by duke.cs.duke.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id h9RDDin6013957 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NO); Mon, 27 Oct 2003 08:13:44 -0500 (EST) Received: (from gallatin@localhost) by grasshopper.cs.duke.edu (8.11.6/8.9.1) id h9RDDdn60110; Mon, 27 Oct 2003 08:13:39 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from gallatin@cs.duke.edu) From: Andrew Gallatin MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <16285.6659.125676.759934@grasshopper.cs.duke.edu> Date: Mon, 27 Oct 2003 08:13:39 -0500 (EST) To: In-Reply-To: <200310270103.ABW19495@dommail.onthenet.com.au> References: <200310270103.ABW19495@dommail.onthenet.com.au> X-Mailer: VM 6.75 under 21.1 (patch 12) "Channel Islands" XEmacs Lucid cc: Alex Zepeda cc: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: New tarball available X-BeenThere: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the PowerPC List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 27 Oct 2003 13:13:52 -0000 peterg@ptree32.com.au writes: > framebuffer 8-bit mode. I'm a bit out of my depth here, > but I think that the onboard ROMs on VGA cards set up the > legacy VGA mode - I don't think they power-up that way. FWIW, alphas have a mini 80286 emulator in the SRM console specifically to run the x86 code in these ROMs. Drew From owner-freebsd-ppc@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Oct 27 17:48:31 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 068B016A4CF for ; Mon, 27 Oct 2003 17:48:31 -0800 (PST) Received: from smtpout.mac.com (A17-250-248-89.apple.com [17.250.248.89]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E117F43FCB for ; Mon, 27 Oct 2003 17:48:29 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from resistor@mac.com) Received: from mac.com (smtpin07-en2 [10.13.10.152]) by smtpout.mac.com (Xserve/MantshX 2.0) with ESMTP id h9S1mT9D012473 for ; Mon, 27 Oct 2003 17:48:29 -0800 (PST) Received: from [192.168.0.9] (unpc-784-21.pc.ts2athga.ath.ga.charter.com [66.190.87.69]) (authenticated bits=0) by mac.com (Xserve/smtpin07/MantshX 3.0) with ESMTP id h9S1mSCQ020067 for ; Mon, 27 Oct 2003 17:48:29 -0800 (PST) Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v606) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed To: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org From: Owen Anderson Date: Mon, 27 Oct 2003 20:48:28 -0500 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.606) Subject: Re: New tarball available X-BeenThere: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the PowerPC List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 28 Oct 2003 01:48:31 -0000 I got the tarball and used a CD Boot to extract it to a new partition as per the instructions. Since then, however, I have hit up against a few problems. 1) I found that the "boot -s" command failed to boot the system in Singe User Mode. I had to go online and look up the "set single_boot" command in order to get it working. 2) My ethernet card is not registering. I don't know if there just isn't a driver, or if it's failing to bind. I'm using a G4/400, and the only indication that shows up in dmesg is this: pci2: at device 11.0 (no driver attached) Everything else seemed to work pretty well though. Keep up the good work! Owen Anderson From owner-freebsd-ppc@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Oct 27 18:06:00 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 216AF16A4CF for ; Mon, 27 Oct 2003 18:06:00 -0800 (PST) Received: from smtpout.mac.com (smtpout.mac.com [17.250.248.88]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1A2DF43FBF for ; Mon, 27 Oct 2003 18:05:59 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from leimy2k@mac.com) Received: from mac.com (smtpin07-en2 [10.13.10.152]) by smtpout.mac.com (Xserve/MantshX 2.0) with ESMTP id h9S25wT7002993 for ; Mon, 27 Oct 2003 18:05:58 -0800 (PST) Received: from [192.168.1.100] (adsl-19-155-180.jan.bellsouth.net [68.19.155.180]) (authenticated bits=0)h9S25vCQ025833; Mon, 27 Oct 2003 18:05:58 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v606) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Message-Id: <3F061475-08EB-11D8-AD40-000A95AFBEB4@mac.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: David Leimbach Date: Mon, 27 Oct 2003 20:05:47 -0600 To: Owen Anderson X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.606) cc: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: New tarball available X-BeenThere: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the PowerPC List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 28 Oct 2003 02:06:00 -0000 Yeah... I am also having network card issues on my dual 867 Mac. The TiBook seems to work but cannot transfer the image... i am sure if I used a CD it would be fine but I just haven't gotten around to trying it yet. Dave On Oct 27, 2003, at 7:48 PM, Owen Anderson wrote: > I got the tarball and used a CD Boot to extract it to a new partition > as per the instructions. Since then, however, I have hit up against a > few problems. > > 1) I found that the "boot -s" command failed to boot the system in > Singe User Mode. I had to go online and look up the "set single_boot" > command in order to get it working. > > 2) My ethernet card is not registering. I don't know if there just > isn't a driver, or if it's failing to bind. I'm using a G4/400, and > the only indication that shows up in dmesg is this: > > pci2: at device 11.0 (no driver attached) > > Everything else seemed to work pretty well though. Keep up the good > work! > > Owen Anderson > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-ppc > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-ppc-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-ppc@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Oct 27 19:00:20 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 54A0916A4CE for ; Mon, 27 Oct 2003 19:00:20 -0800 (PST) Received: from dommail.onthenet.com.au (dommail.OntheNet.com.au [203.13.70.57]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C2F6A43FB1 for ; Mon, 27 Oct 2003 19:00:18 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from peterg@ptree32.com.au) Received: from dommail.onthenet.com.au (localhost.onthenet.com.au [127.0.0.1]) by dommail.onthenet.com.au (Mirapoint Messaging Server MOS 3.2.4-GA) with ESMTP id ABX08141; Tue, 28 Oct 2003 13:00:01 +1000 (EST) From: Message-Id: <200310280300.ABX08141@dommail.onthenet.com.au> Received: from 220.240.128.31 by dommail.onthenet.com.au (Mirapoint Messaging Server MOS 3.2.4-GA) with HTTP/1.1; Tue, 28 Oct 2003 13:00:01 +1000 Date: Tue, 28 Oct 2003 13:00:01 +1000 To: David Leimbach X-Mailer: Webmail Mirapoint Direct 3.2.4-GA MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: New tarball available X-BeenThere: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the PowerPC List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 28 Oct 2003 03:00:20 -0000 Hi Dave, >> Good as in it does render correctly, but with an incorrect >> width ? Or is the screen garbled ? > >Good looking text ... wrong width :) Actually, that's by (poor?) design - I limit the width to 800x600 max. Looks good on a 1024x768 display (eMac), but might be a bit small on 1280x1024. I did it that way to give the not-quite-a-PC look that I've seen on some notebooks. What would people like to see ? Full-screen no matter what the res ? I was a bit worried that the chars would be too small at 1280x1024 (or higher). later, Peter. From owner-freebsd-ppc@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Oct 27 19:04:34 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1C6EC16A4CE for ; Mon, 27 Oct 2003 19:04:34 -0800 (PST) Received: from dommail.onthenet.com.au (dommail.OntheNet.com.au [203.13.70.57]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EF08243F3F for ; Mon, 27 Oct 2003 19:04:32 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from peterg@ptree32.com.au) Received: from dommail.onthenet.com.au (localhost.onthenet.com.au [127.0.0.1]) by dommail.onthenet.com.au (Mirapoint Messaging Server MOS 3.2.4-GA) with ESMTP id ABX08309; Tue, 28 Oct 2003 13:04:27 +1000 (EST) From: Message-Id: <200310280304.ABX08309@dommail.onthenet.com.au> Received: from 220.240.128.31 by dommail.onthenet.com.au (Mirapoint Messaging Server MOS 3.2.4-GA) with HTTP/1.1; Tue, 28 Oct 2003 13:04:27 +1000 Date: Tue, 28 Oct 2003 13:04:27 +1000 To: Owen Anderson X-Mailer: Webmail Mirapoint Direct 3.2.4-GA MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: New tarball available X-BeenThere: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the PowerPC List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 28 Oct 2003 03:04:34 -0000 Hi Owen, >1) I found that the "boot -s" command failed to boot the >system in Singe User Mode. I had to go online and look >up the "set single_boot" command in order to get it working. Yes, sorry, I think this is just a mis-match with the old loader. The new one does pass through '-s', but it doesn't sync the icache :-( >2) My ethernet card is not registering. I don't know if >there just isn't a driver, or if it's failing to bind. >I'm using a G4/400, and the only indication that shows >up in dmesg is this: > >pci2: at device 11.0 (no driver >attached) I think the only drivers compiled in are the fxp and gem. I'm assuming this isn't the on-board ethernet ? later, Peter. From owner-freebsd-ppc@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Oct 27 19:06:59 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6C27916A4CF for ; Mon, 27 Oct 2003 19:06:59 -0800 (PST) Received: from dommail.onthenet.com.au (dommail.OntheNet.com.au [203.13.70.57]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3A0DA43F85 for ; Mon, 27 Oct 2003 19:06:58 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from peterg@ptree32.com.au) Received: from dommail.onthenet.com.au (localhost.onthenet.com.au [127.0.0.1]) by dommail.onthenet.com.au (Mirapoint Messaging Server MOS 3.2.4-GA) with ESMTP id ABX08371; Tue, 28 Oct 2003 13:06:56 +1000 (EST) From: Message-Id: <200310280306.ABX08371@dommail.onthenet.com.au> Received: from 220.240.128.31 by dommail.onthenet.com.au (Mirapoint Messaging Server MOS 3.2.4-GA) with HTTP/1.1; Tue, 28 Oct 2003 13:06:56 +1000 Date: Tue, 28 Oct 2003 13:06:56 +1000 To: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org X-Mailer: Webmail Mirapoint Direct 3.2.4-GA MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Lightning-fried disk X-BeenThere: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the PowerPC List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 28 Oct 2003 03:06:59 -0000 Hi all, The Friday night lightning storm did indeed take out my main drive. Unless I can get it restored somehow, it's going to be development from memory - unfortunately I had a bit of stuff not checked in (loadable modules, works in the most recent snapshot! syscons, and a half-done BMAC driver) and not backed up :-( :-( later, Peter. From owner-freebsd-ppc@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Oct 27 19:09:15 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4092B16A4CE for ; Mon, 27 Oct 2003 19:09:15 -0800 (PST) Received: from caulfield.bitmap.net (h24-67-157-161.ed.shawcable.net [24.67.157.161]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C914243FBD for ; Mon, 27 Oct 2003 19:09:11 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from graham@bitmap.net) Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by caulfield.bitmap.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CD4DB3813BC; Tue, 28 Oct 2003 03:09:41 +0000 (GMT) Received: from caulfield.bitmap.net ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (caulfield.bitmap.net [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 31611-01; Mon, 27 Oct 2003 20:09:41 -0700 (MST) Received: from [192.168.0.20] (unknown [192.168.0.20]) by caulfield.bitmap.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8C787381033; Mon, 27 Oct 2003 20:09:41 -0700 (MST) In-Reply-To: <200310280300.ABX08141@dommail.onthenet.com.au> References: <200310280300.ABX08141@dommail.onthenet.com.au> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v606) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Message-Id: <196E8626-08F4-11D8-ADD2-000393C48938@bitmap.net> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Graham Bakay Date: Mon, 27 Oct 2003 20:09:09 -0700 To: X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.606) cc: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: New tarball available X-BeenThere: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the PowerPC List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 28 Oct 2003 03:09:15 -0000 On 27 Oct 2003, at 20:00, wrote: > Actually, that's by (poor?) design - I limit the width > to 800x600 max. Looks good on a 1024x768 display (eMac), > but might be a bit small on 1280x1024. i think 800x600 is a good place to start, since it is the minimum resolution that g3+ machines have (early ibooks). maybe a syscons flag/kernel option? > I did it that way to give the not-quite-a-PC look that > I've seen on some notebooks. i agree. it looks far better to have small text on a large screen (especially lcds) than to have the text stretched (interpolated on lcds). > What would people like to see ? Full-screen no matter what > the res ? I was a bit worried that the chars would be too > small at 1280x1024 (or higher). i think 800x600 works. is it possible to have it centered in the screen? (excuse me if it in fact already is, i'm still wrestling with getting my bootloader working.) cheers, graham. From owner-freebsd-ppc@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Oct 27 19:09:30 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3A84B16A4D7 for ; Mon, 27 Oct 2003 19:09:30 -0800 (PST) Received: from smtpout.mac.com (smtpout.mac.com [17.250.248.89]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 58E7143FB1 for ; Mon, 27 Oct 2003 19:09:29 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from resistor@mac.com) Received: from mac.com (smtpin08-en2 [10.13.10.153]) by smtpout.mac.com (Xserve/MantshX 2.0) with ESMTP id h9S39T9D020009 for ; Mon, 27 Oct 2003 19:09:29 -0800 (PST) Received: from [192.168.0.9] (unpc-784-21.pc.ts2athga.ath.ga.charter.com [66.190.87.69]) (authenticated bits=0) by mac.com (Xserve/smtpin08/MantshX 3.0) with ESMTP id h9S38mbo013139 for ; Mon, 27 Oct 2003 19:09:28 -0800 (PST) Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v606) In-Reply-To: <200310280304.ABX08309@dommail.onthenet.com.au> References: <200310280304.ABX08309@dommail.onthenet.com.au> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Message-Id: <246AFBB4-08F4-11D8-A5E5-000A279431A2@mac.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Owen Anderson Date: Mon, 27 Oct 2003 22:09:28 -0500 To: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.606) Subject: Re: New tarball available X-BeenThere: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the PowerPC List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 28 Oct 2003 03:09:30 -0000 On Oct 27, 2003, at 10:04 PM, peterg@ptree32.com.au wrote: > Hi Owen, > >> 1) I found that the "boot -s" command failed to boot the >> system in Singe User Mode. I had to go online and look >> up the "set single_boot" command in order to get it working. > > Yes, sorry, I think this is just a mis-match with the > old loader. The new one does pass through '-s', but it > doesn't sync the icache :-( Oh well. Not too serious, just a bit of an irritation. >> 2) My ethernet card is not registering. I don't know if >> there just isn't a driver, or if it's failing to bind. >> I'm using a G4/400, and the only indication that shows >> up in dmesg is this: >> >> pci2: at device 11.0 (no driver >> attached) > > I think the only drivers compiled in are the fxp and gem. > I'm assuming this isn't the on-board ethernet ? Nope. It's the built-in Gigabit ethernet on my PowerMac G4/400. It's registered under OS X 10.3 as en0 if that helps at all. Owen Anderson From owner-freebsd-ppc@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Oct 27 19:13:12 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6E67D16A4CE for ; Mon, 27 Oct 2003 19:13:12 -0800 (PST) Received: from dommail.onthenet.com.au (dommail.OntheNet.com.au [203.13.70.57]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 428B443F75 for ; Mon, 27 Oct 2003 19:13:11 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from peterg@ptree32.com.au) Received: from dommail.onthenet.com.au (localhost.onthenet.com.au [127.0.0.1]) by dommail.onthenet.com.au (Mirapoint Messaging Server MOS 3.2.4-GA) with ESMTP id ABX08553; Tue, 28 Oct 2003 13:13:06 +1000 (EST) From: Message-Id: <200310280313.ABX08553@dommail.onthenet.com.au> Received: from 220.240.128.31 by dommail.onthenet.com.au (Mirapoint Messaging Server MOS 3.2.4-GA) with HTTP/1.1; Tue, 28 Oct 2003 13:13:06 +1000 Date: Tue, 28 Oct 2003 13:13:06 +1000 To: Graham Bakay X-Mailer: Webmail Mirapoint Direct 3.2.4-GA MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: New tarball available X-BeenThere: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the PowerPC List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 28 Oct 2003 03:13:12 -0000 >> Actually, that's by (poor?) design - I limit the width >> to 800x600 max. Looks good on a 1024x768 display (eMac), >> but might be a bit small on 1280x1024. > >i think 800x600 is a good place to start, since it is the minimum >resolution that g3+ machines have (early ibooks). maybe a syscons >flag/kernel option? I'll support the minimum that the screen specifies: my B&W G3 boots up at 640x480 on a 14" monitor. It's just the max that is capped currently. >i agree. it looks far better to have small text on a large screen >(especially lcds) than to have the text stretched (interpolated on >lcds). One option would be to use a 16-bit wide EGA font instead of the 8x16 one currently used - that might help the large screens. >i think 800x600 works. is it possible to have it centered in the >screen? (excuse me if it in fact already is Yep, should be centered. later, Peter. From owner-freebsd-ppc@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Oct 27 19:25:55 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CFE3416A4CE for ; Mon, 27 Oct 2003 19:25:55 -0800 (PST) Received: from dommail.onthenet.com.au (dommail.OntheNet.com.au [203.13.70.57]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B19B043FAF for ; Mon, 27 Oct 2003 19:25:54 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from peterg@ptree32.com.au) Received: from dommail.onthenet.com.au (localhost.onthenet.com.au [127.0.0.1]) by dommail.onthenet.com.au (Mirapoint Messaging Server MOS 3.2.4-GA) with ESMTP id ABX08857; Tue, 28 Oct 2003 13:25:44 +1000 (EST) From: Message-Id: <200310280325.ABX08857@dommail.onthenet.com.au> Received: from 220.240.128.31 by dommail.onthenet.com.au (Mirapoint Messaging Server MOS 3.2.4-GA) with HTTP/1.1; Tue, 28 Oct 2003 13:25:44 +1000 Date: Tue, 28 Oct 2003 13:25:44 +1000 To: Owen Anderson X-Mailer: Webmail Mirapoint Direct 3.2.4-GA MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: New tarball available X-BeenThere: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the PowerPC List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 28 Oct 2003 03:25:55 -0000 >> I think the only drivers compiled in are the fxp and gem. >> I'm assuming this isn't the on-board ethernet ? > >Nope. It's the built-in Gigabit ethernet on my PowerMac G4/400. It's >registered under OS X 10.3 as en0 if that helps at all. OK, I'm pretty sure this is a GEM, but with a different PCI ID than what's in the kernel. I noticed that NetBSD's if_gm.c recognizes the GEM3, which is what you might have. If you're keen, you could binary-patch the kernel to recognize the variant. Simply locate the GEM2 device ID, 0x0024106b and change it to 0x0032106b. later, Peter. From owner-freebsd-ppc@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Oct 27 19:31:26 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4F11C16A4CF for ; Mon, 27 Oct 2003 19:31:26 -0800 (PST) Received: from smtpout.mac.com (smtpout.mac.com [17.250.248.88]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AC86443F3F for ; Mon, 27 Oct 2003 19:31:25 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from resistor@mac.com) Received: from mac.com (smtpin07-en2 [10.13.10.152]) by smtpout.mac.com (Xserve/MantshX 2.0) with ESMTP id h9S3VPT7011676 for ; Mon, 27 Oct 2003 19:31:25 -0800 (PST) Received: from [192.168.0.9] (unpc-784-21.pc.ts2athga.ath.ga.charter.com [66.190.87.69]) (authenticated bits=0) by mac.com (Xserve/smtpin07/MantshX 3.0) with ESMTP id h9S3VOCQ024493 for ; Mon, 27 Oct 2003 19:31:25 -0800 (PST) Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v606) In-Reply-To: <200310280325.ABX08857@dommail.onthenet.com.au> References: <200310280325.ABX08857@dommail.onthenet.com.au> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Message-Id: <349AD08C-08F7-11D8-A5E5-000A279431A2@mac.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Owen Anderson Date: Mon, 27 Oct 2003 22:31:23 -0500 To: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.606) Subject: Re: New tarball available X-BeenThere: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the PowerPC List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 28 Oct 2003 03:31:26 -0000 Sounds like a plan. I'd do just that if I had the faintest idea how. What files do I need to go poking around in, and what tools do I need to use for it? Owen Anderson On Oct 27, 2003, at 10:25 PM, peterg@ptree32.com.au wrote: >>> I think the only drivers compiled in are the fxp and gem. >>> I'm assuming this isn't the on-board ethernet ? >> >> Nope. It's the built-in Gigabit ethernet on my PowerMac > G4/400. It's >> registered under OS X 10.3 as en0 if that helps at all. > > OK, I'm pretty sure this is a GEM, but with a different > PCI ID than what's in the kernel. I noticed that NetBSD's > if_gm.c recognizes the GEM3, which is what you might have. > > If you're keen, you could binary-patch the kernel > to recognize the variant. Simply locate the GEM2 device > ID, 0x0024106b and change it to 0x0032106b. > > later, > > Peter. > > From owner-freebsd-ppc@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Oct 28 05:58:20 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7B7B816A4D5; Tue, 28 Oct 2003 05:58:20 -0800 (PST) Received: from motgate7.mot.com (motgate7.mot.com [129.188.136.7]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2483743FE5; Tue, 28 Oct 2003 05:58:19 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from Rafal.Jaworowski@motorola.com) Received: from il06exr02.mot.com (il06exr02.mot.com [129.188.137.132]) by motgate7.mot.com (Motorola/Motgate7) with ESMTP id h9SDvXBO023111; Tue, 28 Oct 2003 06:57:34 -0700 (MST) Received: from zpl02exm01.corp.mot.com (zpl02exm01.mpsc.mot.com [175.28.10.102])h9SDwF27005826; Tue, 28 Oct 2003 07:58:16 -0600 Received: by zpl02exm01.mpsc.mot.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2657.2) id ; Tue, 28 Oct 2003 14:57:29 +0100 Message-ID: From: Jaworowski Rafal-ARJ004 To: "'Peter Grehan'" Date: Tue, 28 Oct 2003 14:57:29 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2657.2) Content-Type: text/plain cc: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org Subject: [PPCBug] a couple of pmap-related questions X-BeenThere: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the PowerPC List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 28 Oct 2003 13:58:20 -0000 Peter, I believe I have more or less sorted out the pmap area for my PPCBug port, although I still have some doubts and questions. I'm using sources from mid Sep so maybe some of the points below are not valid anymore in up to date -current.. 1. In pmap_bootstrap() there is a number of assignemnts for BAT entries kept in battable[], but it seems for me that they are never used i.e. the cpu registers are never filled out according to this table; only two or three explicit BAT registers assignments exist (like for the bottom 256M and PCI bus io space). The battable[] is used however by pmap_bat_mapped() call but only for reading. Why is that (or am I missing something)? General question: what is the overall intended outcome for further kernel initialisation upon completion of pmap_bootstrap()? 2. powerpc_init() takes 'basekernel' as a parmeter but it's never used; more on the same note, 'kernelstart' and 'kernelend' are passed down to pmap_bootstrap() but this function doen't make use of it. Question: is there anything to be completed still and these will be used when it gets done? Or it just needs cleaning up? 3. powerpc_init() turns on address translation _before_ calling pmap_bootstrap() which sets up the memory maps etc. My understanding is that one first creates mappings, page tables etc. and only after that turns on address translations. My guess is the OF has some initial translations so it's safe to behave so but I'm not that intimate with OF. Comments? FWIW, my recent status is that the kernel goes through all the mi_startup() routines for SYSINITs compiled in (copyright, tunables, vm, all that), and prompts for the root mountpoint in the end. There's no device hierarchy built yet, no low-level clock support routines, no IRQs set up, nexus and related are stubbed at the moment. Just the kernel skeleton but I'll keep on slowly filling out the missing pieces. I'll appreciate your comments for the above. regards, Rafal From owner-freebsd-ppc@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Oct 28 08:25:14 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1988616A4CF for ; Tue, 28 Oct 2003 08:25:14 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail.speakeasy.net (mail8.speakeasy.net [216.254.0.208]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0BFDF43FA3 for ; Tue, 28 Oct 2003 08:25:13 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jhb@FreeBSD.org) Received: (qmail 25836 invoked from network); 28 Oct 2003 16:25:12 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO server.baldwin.cx) ([216.27.160.63]) (envelope-sender )encrypted SMTP for ; 28 Oct 2003 16:25:12 -0000 Received: from laptop.baldwin.cx (gw1.twc.weather.com [216.133.140.1]) by server.baldwin.cx (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h9SGP8ce027410; Tue, 28 Oct 2003 11:25:09 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from jhb@FreeBSD.org) Message-ID: X-Mailer: XFMail 1.5.4 on FreeBSD X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <200310280306.ABX08371@dommail.onthenet.com.au> Date: Tue, 28 Oct 2003 11:25:08 -0500 (EST) From: John Baldwin To: peterg@ptree32.com.au X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) cc: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org Subject: RE: Lightning-fried disk X-BeenThere: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the PowerPC List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 28 Oct 2003 16:25:14 -0000 On 28-Oct-2003 peterg@ptree32.com.au wrote: > Hi all, > > The Friday night lightning storm did indeed take out my > main drive. Unless I can get it restored somehow, it's > going to be development from memory - unfortunately I > had a bit of stuff not checked in (loadable modules, works > in the most recent snapshot! syscons, and a half-done BMAC > driver) and not backed up :-( :-( Might I suggest using the projects/powerpc tree in p4 and checking your stuff in there so that it is backed up in the future and also so that you have version control on your changes so it is easier to get back changes you revert, etc. -- John Baldwin <>< http://www.FreeBSD.org/~jhb/ "Power Users Use the Power to Serve!" - http://www.FreeBSD.org/ From owner-freebsd-ppc@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Oct 28 11:23:06 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2A8FB16A4CE for ; Tue, 28 Oct 2003 11:23:06 -0800 (PST) Received: from smtpout.mac.com (smtpout.mac.com [17.250.248.87]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6173D43F3F for ; Tue, 28 Oct 2003 11:23:05 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from alistairgorthy@mac.com) Received: from mac.com (smtpin08-en2 [10.13.10.153]) by smtpout.mac.com (Xserve/MantshX 2.0) with ESMTP id h9SJN59H018968 for ; Tue, 28 Oct 2003 11:23:05 -0800 (PST) Received: from mac.com (host81-128-126-240.in-addr.btopenworld.com [81.128.126.240]) (authenticated bits=0) by mac.com (Xserve/smtpin08/MantshX 3.0) with ESMTP id h9SJN3Zq000711 for ; Tue, 28 Oct 2003 11:23:04 -0800 (PST) Date: Tue, 28 Oct 2003 19:23:46 -0800 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v552) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed From: Alistair Gorthy To: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <4E516CF2-09BF-11D8-8EE5-000393825B92@mac.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.552) Subject: X-BeenThere: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the PowerPC List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 28 Oct 2003 19:23:06 -0000 From owner-freebsd-ppc@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Oct 28 17:02:35 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2E64716A4CE for ; Tue, 28 Oct 2003 17:02:35 -0800 (PST) Received: from dommail.onthenet.com.au (dommail.OntheNet.com.au [203.13.70.57]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8663F43FE5 for ; Tue, 28 Oct 2003 17:02:31 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from peterg@ptree32.com.au) Received: from dommail.onthenet.com.au (localhost.onthenet.com.au [127.0.0.1]) by dommail.onthenet.com.au (Mirapoint Messaging Server MOS 3.2.4-GA) with ESMTP id ABX28021; Wed, 29 Oct 2003 11:02:18 +1000 (EST) From: Message-Id: <200310290102.ABX28021@dommail.onthenet.com.au> Received: from 220.240.128.31 by dommail.onthenet.com.au (Mirapoint Messaging Server MOS 3.2.4-GA) with HTTP/1.1; Wed, 29 Oct 2003 11:02:18 +1000 Date: Wed, 29 Oct 2003 11:02:18 +1000 To: Owen Anderson X-Mailer: Webmail Mirapoint Direct 3.2.4-GA MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: New tarball available X-BeenThere: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the PowerPC List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 29 Oct 2003 01:02:35 -0000 Hi Owen, >Sounds like a plan. I'd do just that if I had the >faintest idea how. What files do I need to go poking >around in, and what tools do I need to use for it? You'll need to locate the hex string in /boot/kernel/kernel, and you'll have to use a hex editor. Emac's hexl-mode is quite good. later, Peter. From owner-freebsd-ppc@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Oct 28 17:04:52 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8141416A4CF for ; Tue, 28 Oct 2003 17:04:52 -0800 (PST) Received: from dommail.onthenet.com.au (dommail.OntheNet.com.au [203.13.70.57]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D761043FE0 for ; Tue, 28 Oct 2003 17:04:50 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from peterg@ptree32.com.au) Received: from dommail.onthenet.com.au (localhost.onthenet.com.au [127.0.0.1]) by dommail.onthenet.com.au (Mirapoint Messaging Server MOS 3.2.4-GA) with ESMTP id ABX28101; Wed, 29 Oct 2003 11:04:32 +1000 (EST) From: Message-Id: <200310290104.ABX28101@dommail.onthenet.com.au> Received: from 220.240.128.31 by dommail.onthenet.com.au (Mirapoint Messaging Server MOS 3.2.4-GA) with HTTP/1.1; Wed, 29 Oct 2003 11:04:32 +1000 Date: Wed, 29 Oct 2003 11:04:32 +1000 To: Phil Regnauld X-Mailer: Webmail Mirapoint Direct 3.2.4-GA MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Lightning-fried disk X-BeenThere: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the PowerPC List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 29 Oct 2003 01:04:52 -0000 > Does it probe at all ? (i.e. BIOS wise) If not, > chances are the media is ok, so you can "just" find an >identical drive, and mount the logic from that one on >the sick disk -- it's doable for most disks. Otherwise, >you'll have to go the professional recovery :-| It doesn't probe at BIOS time. I'll try your trick if I can locate a similar disk, otherwise it's off to the professionals. later, Peter. From owner-freebsd-ppc@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Oct 28 17:26:19 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 95CD016A4CE; Tue, 28 Oct 2003 17:26:19 -0800 (PST) Received: from dommail.onthenet.com.au (dommail.OntheNet.com.au [203.13.70.57]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2EC9043F85; Tue, 28 Oct 2003 17:26:18 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from peterg@ptree32.com.au) Received: from dommail.onthenet.com.au (localhost.onthenet.com.au [127.0.0.1]) by dommail.onthenet.com.au (Mirapoint Messaging Server MOS 3.2.4-GA) with ESMTP id ABX28763; Wed, 29 Oct 2003 11:26:11 +1000 (EST) From: Message-Id: <200310290126.ABX28763@dommail.onthenet.com.au> Received: from 220.240.128.31 by dommail.onthenet.com.au (Mirapoint Messaging Server MOS 3.2.4-GA) with HTTP/1.1; Wed, 29 Oct 2003 11:26:11 +1000 Date: Wed, 29 Oct 2003 11:26:11 +1000 To: Jaworowski Rafal-ARJ004 X-Mailer: Webmail Mirapoint Direct 3.2.4-GA MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: 'Peter Grehan' cc: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: [PPCBug] a couple of pmap-related questions X-BeenThere: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the PowerPC List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 29 Oct 2003 01:26:19 -0000 Hi Rafal, >1. In pmap_bootstrap() there is a number of assignemnts >for BAT entries kept in battable[], but it seems for >me that they are never used i.e. the cpu registers are >never filled out according to this table; only two or >three explicit BAT registers assignments exist (like >for the bottom 256M and PCI bus io space). The battable[] >is used however by pmap_bat_mapped() call but only for >reading. Why is that (or am I missing something)? Have a look at dsitrap in trap_subr.S - the battable[] array is searched for the faulting address, and if found, bat 2 or 3 is kicked out and replaced with the values found from the table. Work needs to be done in this area. For instance, it would be good to be able to use the 8 BATs available on some G3 & G4 CPUs, and the setting up of battable should be platform-specific. >General question: what is the overall intended outcome >for further kernel initialisation upon completion of >pmap_bootstrap()? The kernel will be running in virtual mode and have full control over VM hardware (e.g. hashed page table). >2. powerpc_init() takes 'basekernel' as a parmeter but >it's never used; more on the same note, 'kernelstart' >and 'kernelend' are passed down to pmap_bootstrap() >but this function doen't make use of it. Question: is >there anything to be completed still and these will be >used when it gets done? Or it just needs cleaning up? I think it's a relic from NetBSD, although it could be used on systems to exclude the kernel from available memory. >3. powerpc_init() turns on address translation _before_ >calling pmap_bootstrap() which sets up the memory maps etc. >My understanding is that one first creates mappings, page >tables etc. and only after that turns on address >translations. My guess is the OF has some initial >translations so it's safe to behave so but I'm not that >intimate with OF. Comments? I think that code can be removed. OF starts the kernel in virtual mode with it's own mappings, so it's a delicate dance to switch over to FreeBSD's mappings, while still retaining the ability to call back into OF after the switch. >FWIW, my recent status is that the kernel goes through >all the mi_startup() routines for SYSINITs compiled in >(copyright, tunables, vm, all that), and prompts for the >root mountpoint in the end. There's no device hierarchy >built yet, no low-level clock support routines, no IRQs >set up, nexus and related are stubbed at the moment. >Just the kernel skeleton but I'll keep on slowly filling >out the missing pieces. That's great ! later, Peter. From owner-freebsd-ppc@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Oct 28 21:48:03 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 754DA16A4CE for ; Tue, 28 Oct 2003 21:48:03 -0800 (PST) Received: from blarf.homeip.net (adsl-209-204-188-56.sonic.net [209.204.188.56]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E256943FBD for ; Tue, 28 Oct 2003 21:48:02 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from listmail@blarf.homeip.net) Received: by blarf.homeip.net (Postfix, from userid 2001) id 8219326E01; Tue, 28 Oct 2003 21:48:02 -0800 (PST) Date: Tue, 28 Oct 2003 21:48:02 -0800 From: Alex Zepeda To: peterg@ptree32.com.au, freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20031029054802.GA10407@blarf.homeip.net> References: <200310290104.ABX28101@dommail.onthenet.com.au> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <200310290104.ABX28101@dommail.onthenet.com.au> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i Sender: zipzippy@sonic.net Subject: Re: Lightning-fried disk X-BeenThere: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the PowerPC List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 29 Oct 2003 05:48:03 -0000 On Wed, Oct 29, 2003 at 11:04:32AM +1000, peterg@ptree32.com.au wrote: > It doesn't probe at BIOS time. I'll try your trick if > I can locate a similar disk, otherwise it's off to the > professionals. What type/make/model of disk was it? - alex From owner-freebsd-ppc@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Oct 29 19:26:37 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3155916A4CE for ; Wed, 29 Oct 2003 19:26:37 -0800 (PST) Received: from dommail.onthenet.com.au (dommail.OntheNet.com.au [203.13.70.57]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AD31543FD7 for ; Wed, 29 Oct 2003 19:26:35 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from peterg@ptree32.com.au) Received: from dommail.onthenet.com.au (localhost.onthenet.com.au [127.0.0.1]) by dommail.onthenet.com.au (Mirapoint Messaging Server MOS 3.2.4-GA) with ESMTP id ABX57787; Thu, 30 Oct 2003 13:26:30 +1000 (EST) From: Message-Id: <200310300326.ABX57787@dommail.onthenet.com.au> Received: from 220.240.128.31 by dommail.onthenet.com.au (Mirapoint Messaging Server MOS 3.2.4-GA) with HTTP/1.1; Thu, 30 Oct 2003 13:26:30 +1000 Date: Thu, 30 Oct 2003 13:26:30 +1000 To: Alex Zepeda X-Mailer: Webmail Mirapoint Direct 3.2.4-GA MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Lightning-fried disk X-BeenThere: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the PowerPC List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 30 Oct 2003 03:26:37 -0000 >What type/make/model of disk was it? The classic IBM deathstar 41G :) I've found an identical one, so it's time for the logic-board swap. later, Peter. From owner-freebsd-ppc@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Oct 30 12:17:50 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D33B416A4CE for ; Thu, 30 Oct 2003 12:17:50 -0800 (PST) Received: from blarf.homeip.net (adsl-209-204-188-56.sonic.net [209.204.188.56]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EE9A543FBD for ; Thu, 30 Oct 2003 12:17:48 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from listmail@blarf.homeip.net) Received: by blarf.homeip.net (Postfix, from userid 2001) id 9B96327FA7; Thu, 30 Oct 2003 12:17:48 -0800 (PST) Date: Thu, 30 Oct 2003 12:17:48 -0800 From: Alex Zepeda To: peterg@ptree32.com.au, freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20031030201748.GA4876@blarf.homeip.net> References: <200310300326.ABX57787@dommail.onthenet.com.au> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <200310300326.ABX57787@dommail.onthenet.com.au> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i Sender: zipzippy@sonic.net Subject: Re: Lightning-fried disk X-BeenThere: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the PowerPC List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 30 Oct 2003 20:17:51 -0000 On Thu, Oct 30, 2003 at 01:26:30PM +1000, peterg@ptree32.com.au wrote: > The classic IBM deathstar 41G :) I've found an identical > one, so it's time for the logic-board swap. Oh hey, I have one of those (30G) laying around.. dead. And the Maxtor that replaced it doesn't seem to be doing too well either. I sure hope you find a better drive to replace it :} - alex