From owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 14 06:25:09 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 73E3816A4CE for ; Sun, 14 Mar 2004 06:25:09 -0800 (PST) Received: from www6.web2010.com (www6.web2010.com [216.157.5.254]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 181D043D55 for ; Sun, 14 Mar 2004 06:25:09 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from MLandman@face2interface.com) Received: from delliver.face2interface.com (dialup-wash-129-203.thebiz.net [64.30.129.203] (may be forged)) by www6.web2010.com (8.12.10/8.9.0) with ESMTP id i2EEOvfK007532 for ; Sun, 14 Mar 2004 09:25:04 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <6.0.0.22.0.20040314090850.090626d0@pop.face2interface.com> X-Sender: face@pop.face2interface.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 6.0.0.22 Date: Sun, 14 Mar 2004 09:24:58 -0500 To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org From: Marty Landman In-Reply-To: <20040314120702.GB9984@happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co .uk> References: <6.0.0.22.0.20040309174210.21cd7918@pop.face2interface.com> <200403131404.42487.anubis357@optusnet.com.au> <6.0.0.22.0.20040313104947.14d6d920@pop.face2interface.com> <20040314120702.GB9984@happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Subject: Re: using samba for backups X-BeenThere: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Non technical items related to the community List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 14 Mar 2004 14:25:09 -0000 At 07:07 AM 3/14/2004, Matthew Seaman wrote: > > There was an article around a couple of years ago I think about some > > disgruntled MS employee who put code into W95 to make it crash after 41 > > days or something.The funny part of course was how nobody interviewed > could > > even imagine a 95 box staying up that long. > >I don't think there was deliberate sabotage. It was a programming >error that led to some early versions of NT4 having a counter >roll-over every 42 days, causing the system to crash. Thanks for the sanity check. Just shows how messed up my memory can be after a time. >The greatest irony of all was that Microsoft were touting NT4 at the time as a >"Unix killer" and promising that five-nines uptimes could be achieved, >at the same time as officially advising all users to reboot their >systems every 30-something days. Somebody calculated that meant that >NT4 would have to be able reboot in well under a minute... What I'm experiencing with my XP home workstation is that while it is quite stable, it also has a propensity to accumulate CSRSS tasks which run as system and can't be killed through task mgr. I think that because of this my system gets sluggish over time. Right now it's been more than 23 days since my last reboot, and 24 out of 46 running processes are csrss. BTW after a reboot there are iirc only 2 of these running. However over time child processes accumulate; it seems to be some kind of bug where they get spawned but not killed when no longer needed. >Note: followup to freebsd-chat, as this is getting off-topic. Yep, thanks for setting up that way. Marty Landman Face 2 Interface Inc. 845-679-9387 Web Installed Formmailer: http://face2interface.com/Products/Formal.shtml FormATable DB: http://face2interface.com/Products/FormATable.shtml Make a Website: http://face2interface.com/Home/Demo.shtml From owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 14 22:17:21 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 060C416A4CE for ; Sun, 14 Mar 2004 22:17:21 -0800 (PST) Received: from palfreman.com (unknown [69.36.162.3]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 88C8043D48 for ; Sun, 14 Mar 2004 22:17:20 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from william@palfreman.com) Received: from localhost (root@localhost) by palfreman.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id i2F6HGZ17071; Sun, 14 Mar 2004 23:17:17 -0700 Date: Sun, 14 Mar 2004 23:17:16 -0700 (MST) From: William Palfreman X-X-Sender: palfreman@palfreman.com To: chat@freebsd.org Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII cc: lbw@eartha.cyberware.co.uk cc: hants@mailman.lug.org.uk Subject: Let it BSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Non technical items related to the community List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 15 Mar 2004 06:17:21 -0000 I had a few minutes spare working the Sunday nightshift, so I wrote a BSD theme song, "Let it BSD". This is sung to the tune of Lennon & McCartney's Let It Be, but instead of being about wussy religious and emotional stuff, it is about important things, i.e. BSD operating systems. I believe it is original - obviously it's a bit like "Code in C", but not much like it. And I've not found anything similar with Google. -Bill. ** Let it BSD ** When I find myself with system trouble, Library incompatibilities, There are words of wisdom, BSD. And in my hour of darkness, there is one CVS tree make update in /usr/src and download BSD. BSD, BSD, BSD, BSD, Whispered words of wisdom, "Just use BSD." And for the broken NT servers, leaking kernel memory, There will be an answer, installing BSD For though there is GNU Parted, resizing Linux directories, You only need one disklabel, for running BSD. BSD, BSD, BSD, BSD, Whispered words of wisdom, "Just use BSD." And when the comms room's darkened, LEDs still shine on me, UPSed until tomorrow, up 2 years on BSD. I wake up to the sound of servers, with fans humming merrily, Crunching starry wisdom, with SETI and BSD BSD, BSD, BSD yeah BSD Solaris is no answer, it's not a BSD BSD, BSD, BSD yeah BSD Whisper words of wisdom, "Just use BSD". -- William Palfreman Tel: +44 (0)771 355-0354 From owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 15 05:49:04 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3C90416A4CE for ; Mon, 15 Mar 2004 05:49:04 -0800 (PST) Received: from smtp3.adl2.internode.on.net (smtp3.adl2.internode.on.net [203.16.214.203]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9035443D4C for ; Mon, 15 Mar 2004 05:49:03 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from smckay@internode.on.net) Received: from dungeon.home (ppp190-27.lns1.bne1.internode.on.net [150.101.190.27])i2FDmuUK029644; Tue, 16 Mar 2004 00:18:57 +1030 (CST) Received: from dungeon.home (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by dungeon.home (8.12.8p2/8.11.6) with ESMTP id i2FDmuew007550; Mon, 15 Mar 2004 23:48:56 +1000 (EST) (envelope-from mckay) Message-Id: <200403151348.i2FDmuew007550@dungeon.home> To: des@des.no (Dag-Erling =?iso-8859-1?q?Sm=F8rgrav?=) References: <200403140716.i2E7GDKa007204@dungeon.home> <20040315000944.GA93356@xor.obsecurity.org> <200403150134.i2F1Y5ew004366@dungeon.home> In-Reply-To: 14:08:28 +0100" Date: Mon, 15 Mar 2004 23:48:56 +1000 From: Stephen McKay cc: chat@freebsd.org cc: Stephen McKay Subject: Doing it right (Was: HEADS UP! MAJOR change to FreeBSD/sparc64) X-BeenThere: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Non technical items related to the community List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 15 Mar 2004 13:49:04 -0000 On Monday, 15th March 2004, Dag-Erling =?iso-8859-1?q?Sm=F8rgrav?= wrote: >Stephen McKay writes: >> On Monday, 15th March 2004, Kris Kennaway wrote: >> > No-one donated their time to do it that way. >> I don't think that's relevant. The question is whether it's the right way >> to do it or not. If what I've suggested is technically correct (and that's >> what I believe) then that's how it should be done. > >Armchair generals are a dime a dozen. Competent developers aren't >quite as easy to come by. True and true, but that's not the point. While you and Kris were defending your territory with this style of comment, Garance explained his reasoning, and it's technically sound. That wins the argument, as it should. I think it is a legitimate (and helpful) thing for developers to question the technical merits of changes even if they aren't personally contributing much code. It can't simply be the case that whoever has the time to commit the most code changes wins. Changes must be in the long term interests of the project. Hence questioning code changes can be as much a contribution as writing new code if it avoids a future problem. Stephen. From owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 15 06:11:33 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3956416A4CE for ; Mon, 15 Mar 2004 06:11:33 -0800 (PST) Received: from smtp.des.no (flood.des.no [217.116.83.31]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C19D043D46 for ; Mon, 15 Mar 2004 06:11:32 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from des@des.no) Received: by smtp.des.no (Pony Express, from userid 666) id 2660E530A; Mon, 15 Mar 2004 15:11:31 +0100 (CET) Received: from dwp.des.no (des.no [80.203.228.37]) by smtp.des.no (Pony Express) with ESMTP id 374B8530E; Mon, 15 Mar 2004 15:11:24 +0100 (CET) Received: by dwp.des.no (Postfix, from userid 2602) id D6B5C33CA7; Mon, 15 Mar 2004 15:11:23 +0100 (CET) To: Stephen McKay References: <200403140716.i2E7GDKa007204@dungeon.home> <20040315000944.GA93356@xor.obsecurity.org> <200403150134.i2F1Y5ew004366@dungeon.home> <200403151348.i2FDmuew007550@dungeon.home> From: des@des.no (Dag-Erling =?iso-8859-1?q?Sm=F8rgrav?=) Date: Mon, 15 Mar 2004 15:11:23 +0100 In-Reply-To: <200403151348.i2FDmuew007550@dungeon.home> (Stephen McKay's message of "Mon, 15 Mar 2004 23:48:56 +1000") Message-ID: User-Agent: Gnus/5.090024 (Oort Gnus v0.24) Emacs/21.3 (berkeley-unix) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on flood.des.no X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=AWL autolearn=no version=2.63 cc: chat@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Doing it right X-BeenThere: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Non technical items related to the community List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 15 Mar 2004 14:11:33 -0000 Stephen McKay writes: > I think it is a legitimate (and helpful) thing for developers to question > the technical merits of changes even if they aren't personally contributi= ng > much code. It can't simply be the case that whoever has the time to comm= it > the most code changes wins. Changes must be in the long term interests of > the project. Hence questioning code changes can be as much a contribution > as writing new code if it avoids a future problem. Sorry, but you get zero points for criticizing this decision after the fact when it had already been discussed to death for literally months before it was implemented, and Garance spent uncounted hours writing and testing the transition scripts and documentation. No points either for criticizing a decision which you clearly did not bother to learn enough about to even discover that it did not affect you. Now, if your message had been something like the following, this thread might have turned out very differently: "Are you planning something similar for i386? In that case, I think we should place more emphasis on backward compatibility..." DES --=20 Dag-Erling Sm=C3=B8rgrav - des@des.no From owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 15 06:37:27 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5DC5616A4CE for ; Mon, 15 Mar 2004 06:37:27 -0800 (PST) Received: from smtp3.adl2.internode.on.net (smtp3.adl2.internode.on.net [203.16.214.203]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BA93B43D2F for ; Mon, 15 Mar 2004 06:37:26 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from smckay@internode.on.net) Received: from dungeon.home (ppp190-27.lns1.bne1.internode.on.net [150.101.190.27])i2FEbLUK038167; Tue, 16 Mar 2004 01:07:22 +1030 (CST) Received: from dungeon.home (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by dungeon.home (8.12.8p2/8.11.6) with ESMTP id i2FEbLew007813; Tue, 16 Mar 2004 00:37:21 +1000 (EST) (envelope-from mckay) Message-Id: <200403151437.i2FEbLew007813@dungeon.home> To: des@des.no (Dag-Erling =?iso-8859-1?q?Sm=F8rgrav?=) References: <200403140716.i2E7GDKa007204@dungeon.home> <20040315000944.GA93356@xor.obsecurity.org> <200403150134.i2F1Y5ew004366@dungeon.home> <200403151348.i2FDmuew007550@dungeon.home> In-Reply-To: 15:11:23 +0100" Date: Tue, 16 Mar 2004 00:37:21 +1000 From: Stephen McKay cc: chat@freebsd.org cc: Stephen McKay Subject: Re: Doing it right X-BeenThere: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Non technical items related to the community List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 15 Mar 2004 14:37:27 -0000 On Monday, 15th March 2004, Dag-Erling =?iso-8859-1?q?Sm=F8rgrav?= wrote: >Sorry, but you get zero points for criticizing this decision after the >fact when it had already been discussed to death ... Presumably it was discussed to death on the -sparc list that I don't read. It's easy to miss things. You have to ignore 99% of the stuff that goes by if you want to avoid livelock. I responded to the commit of UPDATING.64BTT, which looked alarming to me. Turns out it isn't. I don't believe it is ever too late to do more thinking about a difficult problem. I've seen plenty of bad ideas pushed through because "we're tired of talking about it now" or because someone wanted "action, not words". >Now, if your message had been something like the following, this >thread might have turned out very differently: > > "Are you planning something similar for i386? In that case, I think > we should place more emphasis on backward compatibility..." So you are basically agreeing with my general premise (criticising technical decisions is a contribution), but didn't like the wording of my initial message? If so, fine. I take care when I write to the lists, but I can't get every nuance perfect. I think Garance read it the way it was intended. If you think that only code (or documentation and other concrete things) is a contribution, then I disagree, and will debate this further. Stephen. From owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 15 06:51:48 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DCFA116A4CE for ; Mon, 15 Mar 2004 06:51:48 -0800 (PST) Received: from smtp.des.no (flood.des.no [217.116.83.31]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 66A4B43D5C for ; Mon, 15 Mar 2004 06:51:47 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from des@des.no) Received: by smtp.des.no (Pony Express, from userid 666) id 6039D530E; Mon, 15 Mar 2004 15:51:46 +0100 (CET) Received: from dwp.des.no (des.no [80.203.228.37]) by smtp.des.no (Pony Express) with ESMTP id 5D470530A; Mon, 15 Mar 2004 15:51:38 +0100 (CET) Received: by dwp.des.no (Postfix, from userid 2602) id CCD0233CA7; Mon, 15 Mar 2004 15:51:37 +0100 (CET) To: Stephen McKay References: <200403140716.i2E7GDKa007204@dungeon.home> <20040315000944.GA93356@xor.obsecurity.org> <200403150134.i2F1Y5ew004366@dungeon.home> <200403151348.i2FDmuew007550@dungeon.home> <200403151437.i2FEbLew007813@dungeon.home> From: des@des.no (Dag-Erling =?iso-8859-1?q?Sm=F8rgrav?=) Date: Mon, 15 Mar 2004 15:51:37 +0100 In-Reply-To: <200403151437.i2FEbLew007813@dungeon.home> (Stephen McKay's message of "Tue, 16 Mar 2004 00:37:21 +1000") Message-ID: User-Agent: Gnus/5.090024 (Oort Gnus v0.24) Emacs/21.3 (berkeley-unix) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on flood.des.no X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=AWL autolearn=no version=2.63 cc: chat@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Doing it right X-BeenThere: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Non technical items related to the community List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 15 Mar 2004 14:51:49 -0000 Stephen McKay writes: > It's easy to miss things. You have to ignore 99% of the stuff that goes = by > if you want to avoid livelock. I responded to the commit of UPDATING.64B= TT, > which looked alarming to me. Turns out it isn't. Rule #1: before reacting to a commit message, read the actual diffs. DES --=20 Dag-Erling Sm=C3=B8rgrav - des@des.no From owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 15 14:33:40 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 57DF516A4E8 for ; Mon, 15 Mar 2004 14:33:40 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail1.acecape.com (mail1.acecape.com [66.114.74.12]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DFCE343D39 for ; Mon, 15 Mar 2004 14:33:39 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from lists@natserv.com) Received: from p65-147.acedsl.com (p65-147.acedsl.com [66.114.65.147]) by mail1.acecape.com (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id i2FMXcWO031779 for ; Mon, 15 Mar 2004 17:33:39 -0500 Date: Mon, 15 Mar 2004 17:41:33 +0000 (GMT) From: Francisco Reyes X-X-Sender: fran@zoraida.natserv.net To: FreeBSD Chat List Message-ID: <20040315173817.U97283@zoraida.natserv.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Subject: Internet billing X-BeenThere: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Non technical items related to the community List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 15 Mar 2004 22:33:40 -0000 Anyone is happy with whatever company they use for internet billing? Researching online it seems that for every company out there there is a number of people unhappy with them (starting of course with paypal and paypalsucks.com). This will be for a startup company and will be selling subscriptions to a web service. From owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 16 10:06:02 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0F9F616A4CE for ; Tue, 16 Mar 2004 10:06:02 -0800 (PST) Received: from reid.bravenet.com (reid.bravenet.com [65.39.176.27]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A4A9443D1F for ; Tue, 16 Mar 2004 10:06:01 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from rhickok1109@earthlink.net) Received: from bravenet.com (celeborn.vc.bravenet.com [172.16.0.23]) by reid.bravenet.com (Postfix) with SMTP id F01144125 for ; Tue, 16 Mar 2004 10:06:16 -0800 (PST) To: "Joseph Mallett" Received: from [63.159.232.17] by bravenet.com with HTTP From: rhickok1109@earthlink.net Sender: rhickok1109@earthlink.net X-ListID: 12757 X-Groupnum: 47 X-IPAddy: 63.159.232.17 X-Usernum: 4021315440 X-Replyto: rhickok1109@earthlink.net Message-Id: <20040316180617.F01144125@reid.bravenet.com> Date: Tue, 16 Mar 2004 10:06:17 -0800 (PST) Subject: Hickok Sports.com NewsletterMarch 16, 2004 X-BeenThere: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Non technical items related to the community List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 16 Mar 2004 18:06:02 -0000 Your HickokSports.com newsletter I was forced to take about a week off because I bought a new computer. Many of you, I'm sure, have been through that at one time or another. As computer memories and programs expand, moving from old to new becomes more and more complex and time-consuming. I had to transfer about 16 gigabytes of data and applications, re-install a bunch of programs, download a couple of hundred megabytes of updates from Microsoft, and then go through the tweaking and re-tweaking process. So it was a week off without being a vacation. Excuses, excuses. . . The upshot is that it's been a while between newsletters and, despite the long lapse, there's not a great deal to report. But here it is, anyway. DARTS AND DARTERS I've added a three-part history of darts and a list of world professional champions. That list is from the former Embassy World Darts Championship, which is now named for the Lakeside Country Club, where it's been held since 1986. History of Darts http://www.hickoksports.com/history/darts01.shtml World Darts Champions http://www.hickoksports.com/history/wdartschampions.shtml INTERNATIONAL BADMINTON Listings of international badminton champions are now on site. That includes the Thomas Cup, for the men's team championship, the Uber Cup, for the women's team championship, and world championship winners. http://www.hickoksports.com/history/wbadminton.shtml U. S. WEIGHTLIFTING CHAMPIONS A complete list of U. S. weightlifting champions has been added. Incidentally, this year's championship just concluded, so I'll be updating that list today. http://www.hickoksports.com/history/usweightlifting.shtml SPEAKING OF UPDATES About this time last year, I commented that March is a very busy month for sports. It's certainly the NCAA's biggest month. While March Madness gets most of the publicity, the NCAA also conducts its wrestling, indoor track and field, swimming, rifle, fencing, and hockey championships. I've been pretty busy just keeping those pages updated, and I'll be doing quite a few more updates in the course of the month, which obviously limits the amount of time I can spend getting new material prepared. (See the next section.) ON THE CALENDAR Here are some major events that are coming up in the next couple of weeks, with links to relevant pages on site: March 15-21 PBA World Bowling Championship http://www.hickoksports.com/history/pbanatl.shtml March 18-20 NCAA DI Women's Swimming Championships http://www.hickoksports.com/history/ncaawswim.shtml March 18-20 NCAA DI Wrestling Championships http://www.hickoksports.com/history/ncaawrestl.shtml March 18-20 NCAA Men's DIII Swimming Championships http://www.hickoksports.com/history/ncaamd3swim.shtml March 19-20 NCAA DIII Men's Basketball Finals http://www.hickoksports.com/history/ncmd3bask.shtml March 19-20 NCAA DIII Women's Basketball Finals http://www.hickoksports.com/history/ncmd3bask.shtml March 19-20 NCAA Women's DIII Hockey Finals http://www.hickoksports.com/history/ncawd3hock.shtml March 20 or 21 NCAA DIII Men's Hockey Final http://www.hickoksports.com/history/ncad3hock.shtml March 20-21 World Cross Country Championships http://www.hickoksports.com/history/wxcountry.shtml March 22-25 World Figure Skating Championships http://www.hickoksports.com/history/wfigschamps.shtml March 25-27 NCAA DI Men's Swimming Championships http://www.hickoksports.com/history/ncaamswim.shtml March 25-28 NCAA Fencing Championships http://www.hickoksports.com/history/ncaafencing.shtml March 25-28 Nabisco Golf Championship http://www.hickoksports.com/history/dinahsho.shtml March 27 NCAA Men's DII Basketball Final http://www.hickoksports.com/history/ncmd2bask.shtml March 27 NCAA Women's DII Basketball Final http://www.hickoksports.com/history/ncwd2bask.shtml March 28 NCAA Women's DI Hockey Final http://www.hickoksports.com/history/ncawhock.shtml March 28-30 NCAA Men's DI Swimming Championships http://www.hickoksports.com/history/ncaamswim.shtml March 31 NCAA Women's DI Basketball Final http://www.hickoksports.com/history/ncwbask.shtml As always, if you have any comments or suggestions, please let me know at: rhickok1109@earthlink.net To unsubscribe from this newsletter, click the link below: http://pub47.bravenet.com/elist/add.php?action=leave&usernum=4021315440&emailaddress=freebsd-chat@freebsd.org From owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 16 10:12:38 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 58CBE16A4CE for ; Tue, 16 Mar 2004 10:12:38 -0800 (PST) Received: from galadriel.bravenet.com (galadriel.bravenet.com [65.39.176.22]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4B47343D1D for ; Tue, 16 Mar 2004 10:12:38 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from generalmail@bravenet.com) Received: from bidoc.vc.bravenet.com (bidoc.vc.bravenet.com [172.16.0.80]) by galadriel.bravenet.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3AA69188ED7 for ; Tue, 16 Mar 2004 10:12:54 -0800 (PST) Received: by bidoc.vc.bravenet.com (Postfix, from userid 500) id 3822C188E90; Tue, 16 Mar 2004 10:12:54 -0800 (PST) To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org From: rhickok1109@earthlink.net MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: from [212.242.113.79] by bravenet.com with HTTP; Tue, 16 Mar 2004 10:12:54 -0800 X-IPAddy: 212.242.113.79 X-Usernum: 4021315440 X-BNService: elist Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Message-Id: <20040316181254.3822C188E90@bidoc.vc.bravenet.com> Date: Tue, 16 Mar 2004 10:12:54 -0800 (PST) Subject: Sorry to see you go. X-BeenThere: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Non technical items related to the community List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 16 Mar 2004 18:12:38 -0000 You have been removed from the mail list at http://www.hickoksports.com/ Get a free phone card! (US and Canadian Residents only, please). http://linktrack.bravenet.com/o.php?id=11027 From owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 16 16:33:58 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CFD1016A4CE for ; Tue, 16 Mar 2004 16:33:58 -0800 (PST) Received: from ns1.tiadon.com (SMTP.tiadon.com [69.27.132.161]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 89DCB43D31 for ; Tue, 16 Mar 2004 16:33:58 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from kdk@daleco.biz) Received: from daleco.biz ([69.27.131.0]) by ns1.tiadon.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.0); Tue, 16 Mar 2004 18:34:26 -0600 Message-ID: <40579CF2.5050708@daleco.biz> Date: Tue, 16 Mar 2004 18:33:54 -0600 From: "Kevin D. Kinsey, DaleCo, S.P." User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.6) Gecko/20040212 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: William Palfreman References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-OriginalArrivalTime: 17 Mar 2004 00:34:27.0015 (UTC) FILETIME=[9A607570:01C40BB7] cc: chat@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Let it BSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Non technical items related to the community List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 17 Mar 2004 00:33:58 -0000 William Palfreman wrote: >I had a few minutes spare working the Sunday nightshift, so I wrote a >BSD theme song, "Let it BSD". This is sung to the tune of Lennon & >McCartney's Let It Be, but instead of being about wussy religious and >emotional stuff, it is about important things, i.e. BSD operating systems. >I believe it is original - obviously it's a bit like "Code in C", but not >much like it. And I've not found anything similar with Google. >-Bill. > > >** Let it BSD ** > >When I find myself with system trouble, >Library incompatibilities, >There are words of wisdom, BSD. >And in my hour of darkness, there is one CVS tree >make update in /usr/src and download BSD. > >BSD, BSD, BSD, BSD, >Whispered words of wisdom, >"Just use BSD." > >And for the broken NT servers, leaking kernel memory, >There will be an answer, installing BSD >For though there is GNU Parted, resizing Linux directories, >You only need one disklabel, for running BSD. > >BSD, BSD, BSD, BSD, >Whispered words of wisdom, >"Just use BSD." > >And when the comms room's darkened, LEDs still shine on me, >UPSed until tomorrow, up 2 years on BSD. >I wake up to the sound of servers, with fans humming merrily, >Crunching starry wisdom, with SETI and BSD > >BSD, BSD, BSD yeah BSD >Solaris is no answer, it's not a BSD >BSD, BSD, BSD yeah BSD >Whisper words of wisdom, >"Just use BSD". > > > Kudos, William! It's funny and likeable. I wonder if it'd be more singable if the syllabic structure were a tad more like the archtype; but, that's another issue, unless someone wants to record it. Hmm, throw an MP3 on the web, then see if we could /. it; might be a Good Thing(tm).... Which makes me wonder ... maybe I should fire up the sequencer and give it a go. I've never tried to imitate Paul ;-) Kevin Kinsey DaleCo, S.P. From owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 16 16:43:06 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C519816A4CE for ; Tue, 16 Mar 2004 16:43:06 -0800 (PST) Received: from seven.Alameda.net (seven.alameda.net [64.81.53.71]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B702643D2F for ; Tue, 16 Mar 2004 16:43:06 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from ulf@Alameda.net) Received: by seven.Alameda.net (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 79F8B3A203; Tue, 16 Mar 2004 16:43:06 -0800 (PST) Date: Tue, 16 Mar 2004 16:43:06 -0800 From: Ulf Zimmermann To: chat@FreeBSD.org Message-ID: <20040317004306.GT89845@seven.alameda.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i Organization: Alameda Networks, Inc. X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 4.8-RELEASE-p5 Subject: Anyone interested in trying to port a Digi/Patton driver ? X-BeenThere: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: ulf@Alameda.net List-Id: Non technical items related to the community List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 17 Mar 2004 00:43:06 -0000 Hello, I currently have, at least for a while, a system available with a Digi/Patton DataFire RAS T1/PRI 24port (Patton 2977) card. There is only an old linux driver available (like up to RH7.0) although I made it work on RH8 with 2.4.20 kernel. If someone has currently time and wants to take a look at it to try porting the driver, please contact me. -- Regards, Ulf. --------------------------------------------------------------------- Ulf Zimmermann, 1525 Pacific Ave., Alameda, CA-94501, #: 510-865-0204 You can find my resume at: http://seven.Alameda.net/~ulf/resume.html From owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 16 17:18:18 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2713316A4CE for ; Tue, 16 Mar 2004 17:18:18 -0800 (PST) Received: from hedwig.avlug.org (74.muh190.lsan.ls3ca31ur.dsl.att.net [12.135.190.74]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id E418C43D3F for ; Tue, 16 Mar 2004 17:18:17 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from schelcj@pobox.com) Received: (qmail 11177 invoked by uid 1000); 17 Mar 2004 01:18:14 -0000 Message-ID: <20040317011814.11176.qmail@mail.avlug.org> Date: Tue, 16 Mar 2004 17:18:14 -0800 From: Chris Scheller To: chat@freebsd.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="Lg8eXa+brxrbjAbR" Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2i X-GPG-Key: http://www.pobox.com/~schelcj/files/pubkey.asc X-GPG-Key-FingerPrint: E9FF 9015 092B C242 E7E7 7C7D 548A 2CB4 8517 DA0D Subject: freebsd cvs case study? X-BeenThere: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Non technical items related to the community List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 17 Mar 2004 01:18:18 -0000 --Lg8eXa+brxrbjAbR Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable are there any good case studies of how freebsd uses cvs? i'm still googling but thought i might ask here anyways. --=20 Chris Scheller | http://www.pobox.com/~schelcj | JID: schelcj@jabber.avlug.= org=20 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------= --- The gentlemen looked one another over with microscopic carelessness. --Lg8eXa+brxrbjAbR Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.2 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFAV6dWVIostIUX2g0RAk6yAJ0ViJoPbt2tihkHieaiOEElF7ChjgCeJfr5 NEMpurGSUN3PEVBCpCwpv+A= =5FN2 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Lg8eXa+brxrbjAbR-- From owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 17 10:44:50 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7129D16A4CE for ; Wed, 17 Mar 2004 10:44:50 -0800 (PST) Received: from smtp.nildram.co.uk (smtp.nildram.co.uk [195.112.4.54]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1518E43D1D for ; Wed, 17 Mar 2004 10:44:50 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mark@ukug.uk.freebsd.org) Received: from ukug.uk.freebsd.org (parish.gotadsl.co.uk [62.3.235.43]) by smtp.nildram.co.uk (Postfix) with ESMTP id AA3FB250192; Wed, 17 Mar 2004 18:37:08 +0000 (GMT) Message-ID: <40589ADF.4000804@ukug.uk.freebsd.org> Date: Wed, 17 Mar 2004 18:37:19 +0000 From: Mark Ovens User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 7.0 (Windows/20040303) X-Accept-Language: en-gb, en-us MIME-Version: 1.0 To: FreeBSD Chat , freebsd-users@uk.freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: A shaggy dog story? X-BeenThere: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Non technical items related to the community List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 17 Mar 2004 18:44:50 -0000 I took SWMBO's car in today to have a couple of new tyres fitted. Whilst I was waiting for it, a young lady brought her car in for new tyres as well and she had her dog with her. What's this got to do with FreeBSD you might wonder? Well, normally, nothing, except that this dog was called Linux! I kid you not; I thought I'd misheard her the first time she called it. Unfortunately she didn't wait around while her car was done so I didn't get the chance to enquire further. Was she a Linux user, or just like the name? If she was a Linux user I would have suggeted that she tried FreeBSD, but then she'd have to rename the dog Beastie (or Chuck). I did wonder as she and the dog walked off whether she had a pooper-scooper to clear up all it's core dumps ;-) Regards, Mark From owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 17 10:49:58 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B4E4216A4CE for ; Wed, 17 Mar 2004 10:49:58 -0800 (PST) Received: from ns1.tiadon.com (SMTP.tiadon.com [69.27.132.161]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CA5EF43D2D for ; Wed, 17 Mar 2004 10:49:56 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from kdk@daleco.biz) Received: from daleco.biz ([69.27.131.0]) by ns1.tiadon.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.0); Wed, 17 Mar 2004 12:50:25 -0600 Message-ID: <40589DD1.7050003@daleco.biz> Date: Wed, 17 Mar 2004 12:49:53 -0600 From: "Kevin D. Kinsey, DaleCo, S.P." User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.6) Gecko/20040212 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: chat@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-OriginalArrivalTime: 17 Mar 2004 18:50:25.0859 (UTC) FILETIME=[B5B3C130:01C40C50] Subject: Programmer joke... X-BeenThere: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Non technical items related to the community List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 17 Mar 2004 18:49:58 -0000 Anyone got a good programmer joke? An Italian guy on a forum I read told this one: /There are 4 programmers. One does PHP, one PASCAL, one C, and the last is a JAVA guru.... The PHP guy says... "Why doesn't this work! " function greets() { echo $foo; } $foo="Hello world"; greets(); The PASCAL guy answers: "Just one thing: keep out the ';' after the 'echo' instruction..." The C guy says: "Just one problem: you are missing the void() before the function declaration..." The JAVA guy: "I see about 1000 errors... you need to make a class, then inherit it, while do this, you have to... bla, bla, bla...."/ ---------------------------------------------- :-) Kevin Kinsey From owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 17 11:06:25 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 026D216A4CE for ; Wed, 17 Mar 2004 11:06:25 -0800 (PST) Received: from smtp.nildram.co.uk (smtp.nildram.co.uk [195.112.4.54]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4EDFC43D2F for ; Wed, 17 Mar 2004 11:06:24 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mark@ukug.uk.freebsd.org) Received: from ukug.uk.freebsd.org (parish.gotadsl.co.uk [62.3.235.43]) by smtp.nildram.co.uk (Postfix) with ESMTP id 90FBC24E424; Wed, 17 Mar 2004 19:02:20 +0000 (GMT) Message-ID: <4058A0CB.8010307@ukug.uk.freebsd.org> Date: Wed, 17 Mar 2004 19:02:35 +0000 From: Mark Ovens User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 7.0 (Windows/20040303) X-Accept-Language: en-gb, en-us MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Kevin D. Kinsey, DaleCo, S.P." , FreeBSD Chat References: <40589DD1.7050003@daleco.biz> In-Reply-To: <40589DD1.7050003@daleco.biz> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Programmer joke... X-BeenThere: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Non technical items related to the community List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 17 Mar 2004 19:06:25 -0000 Kevin D. Kinsey, DaleCo, S.P. wrote: > Anyone got a good programmer joke? > Will this do? The Evolution of a Programmer ----------------------------- High School/Jr.High =================== 10 PRINT "HELLO WORLD" 20 END ===================== First year in College ===================== program Hello(input, output) begin writeln('Hello World'); end. ====================== Senior year in College ====================== (defun hello (print (cons 'Hello (list 'World)))) ================ New professional ================ #include void main(void) { char *message[] = {"Hello ", "World"}; int i; for(i = 0; i < 2; ++i) printf("%s", message[i]); printf("\n"); } ==================== Seasoned professional ===================== #include #include class string { private: int size; char *ptr; public: string() : size(0), ptr(new char('\0')) {} string(const string &s) : size(s.size) { ptr = new char[size + 1]; strcpy(ptr, s.ptr); } ~string() { delete [] ptr; } friend ostream &operator <<(ostream &, const string &); string &operator=(const char *); }; ostream &operator<<(ostream &stream, const string &s) { return(stream << s.ptr); } string &string::operator=(const char *chrs) { if (this != &chrs) { delete [] ptr; size = strlen(chrs); ptr = new char[size + 1]; strcpy(ptr, chrs); } return(*this); } int main() { string str; str = "Hello World"; cout << str << endl; return(0); } ================= Master Programmer ================= [ uuid(2573F8F4-CFEE-101A-9A9F-00AA00342820) ] library LHello { // bring in the master library importlib("actimp.tlb"); importlib("actexp.tlb"); // bring in my interfaces #include "pshlo.idl" [ uuid(2573F8F5-CFEE-101A-9A9F-00AA00342820) ] cotype THello { interface IHello; interface IPersistFile; }; }; [ exe, uuid(2573F890-CFEE-101A-9A9F-00AA00342820) ] module CHelloLib { // some code related header files importheader(); importheader(); importheader(); importheader("pshlo.h"); importheader("shlo.hxx"); importheader("mycls.hxx"); // needed typelibs importlib("actimp.tlb"); importlib("actexp.tlb"); importlib("thlo.tlb"); [ uuid(2573F891-CFEE-101A-9A9F-00AA00342820), aggregatable ] coclass CHello { cotype THello; }; }; #include "ipfix.hxx" extern HANDLE hEvent; class CHello : public CHelloBase { public: IPFIX(CLSID_CHello); CHello(IUnknown *pUnk); ~CHello(); HRESULT __stdcall PrintSz(LPWSTR pwszString); private: static int cObjRef; }; #include #include #include #include #include "thlo.h" #include "pshlo.h" #include "shlo.hxx" #include "mycls.hxx" int CHello:cObjRef = 0; CHello::CHello(IUnknown *pUnk) : CHelloBase(pUnk) { cObjRef++; return; } HRESULT __stdcall CHello::PrintSz(LPWSTR pwszString) { printf("%ws\n", pwszString); return(ResultFromScode(S_OK)); } CHello::~CHello(void) { // when the object count goes to zero, stop the server cObjRef--; if( cObjRef == 0 ) PulseEvent(hEvent); return; } #include #include #include "pshlo.h" #include "shlo.hxx" #include "mycls.hxx" HANDLE hEvent; int _cdecl main( int argc, char * argv[] ) { ULONG ulRef; DWORD dwRegistration; CHelloCF *pCF = new CHelloCF(); hEvent = CreateEvent(NULL, FALSE, FALSE, NULL); // Initialize the OLE libraries CoInitiali, NULL); // Initialize the OLE libraries CoInitializeEx(NULL, COINIT_MULTITHREADED); CoRegisterClassObject(CLSID_CHello, pCF, CLSCTX_LOCAL_SERVER, REGCLS_MULTIPLEUSE, &dwRegistration); // wait on an event to stop WaitForSingleObject(hEvent, INFINITE); // revoke and release the class object CoRevokeClassObject(dwRegistration); ulRef = pCF->Release(); // Tell OLE we are going away. CoUninitialize(); return(0); } extern CLSID CLSID_CHello; extern UUID LIBID_CHelloLib; CLSID CLSID_CHello = { /* 2573F891-CFEE-101A-9A9F-00AA00342820 */ 0x2573F891, 0xCFEE, 0x101A, { 0x9A, 0x9F, 0x00, 0xAA, 0x00, 0x34, 0x28, 0x20 } }; UUID LIBID_CHelloLib = { /* 2573F890-CFEE-101A-9A9F-00AA00342820 */ 0x2573F890, 0xCFEE, 0x101A, { 0x9A, 0x9F, 0x00, 0xAA, 0x00, 0x34, 0x28, 0x20 } }; #include #include #include #include #include #include "pshlo.h" #include "shlo.hxx" #include "clsid.h" int _cdecl main( int argc, char * argv[] ) { HRESULT hRslt; IHello *pHello; ULONG ulCnt; IMoniker * pmk; WCHAR wcsT[_MAX_PATH]; WCHAR wcsPath[2 * _MAX_PATH]; // get object path wcsPath[0] = '\0'; wcsT[0] = '\0'; if( argc > 1) { mbstowcs(wcsPath, argv[1], strlen(argv[1]) + 1); wcsupr(wcsPath); } else { fprintf(stderr, "Object path must be specified\n"); return(1); } // get print string if(argc > 2) mbstowcs(wcsT, argv[2], strlen(argv[2]) + 1); else wcscpy(wcsT, L"Hello World"); printf("Linking to object %ws\n", wcsPath); printf("Text String %ws\n", wcsT); // Initialize the OLE libraries hRslt = CoInitializeEx(NULL, COINIT_MULTITHREADED); if(SUCCEEDED(hRslt)) { hRslt = CreateFileMoniker(wcsPath, &pmk); if(SUCCEEDED(hRslt)) hRslt = BindMoniker(pmk, 0, IID_IHello, (void **)&pHello); if(SUCCEEDED(hRslt)) { // print a string out pHello->PrintSz(wcsT); Sleep(2000); ulCnt = pHello->Release(); } else printf("Failure to connect, status: %lx", hRslt); // Tell OLE we are going away. CoUninitialize(); } return(0); } ================= Apprentice Hacker ================= #!/usr/local/bin/perl $msg="Hello, world.\n"; if ($#ARGV >= 0) { while(defined($arg=shift(@ARGV))) { $outfilename = $arg; open(FILE, ">" . $outfilename) || die "Can't write $arg: $!\n"; print (FILE $msg); close(FILE) || die "Can't close $arg: $!\n"; } } else { print ($msg); } 1; ================== Experienced Hacker ================== #include #define S "Hello, World\n" main(){exit(printf(S) == strlen(S) ? 0 : 1);} =============== Seasoned Hacker =============== % cc -o a.out ~/src/misc/hw/hw.c % a.out =========== Guru Hacker =========== % cat Hello, world. ^D ===================== AXE System programmer ===================== LL0: .seg "data" .seg "text" .proc 04 .global _main _main: !#PROLOGUE# 0 sethi %hi(LF26),%g1 add %g1,%lo(LF26),%g1 save %sp,%g1,%sp !#PROLOGUE# 1 .seg "data1" L30: .ascii "Hello, World\012\0" .seg "text" .seg "data1" L32: .ascii "Hello, World\012\0" .seg "text" set L32,%o0 call _strlen,1 nop mov %o0,%i5 set L30,%o0 call _printf,1 nop cmp %o0,%i5 bne L2000000 nop mov 0,%o0 b L2000001 nop L2000000: mov 0x1,%o0 L2000001: call _exit,1 nop LE26: ret restore LF26 = -96 LP26 = 96 LST26 = 96 LT26 = 96 .seg "data" 0000000 0103 0107 0000 0060 0000 0020 0000 0000 0000020 0000 0030 0000 0000 0000 0054 0000 0000 0000040 033f ffff 8200 63a0 9de3 8001 1100 0000 0000060 9012 2000 4000 0000 0100 0000 ba10 0008 0000100 1100 0000 9012 2000 4000 0000 0100 00 ba10 0008 0000100 1100 0000 9012 2000 4000 0000 0100 0000 0000120 80a2 001d 1280 0005 0100 0000 9010 2000 0000140 1080 0003 0100 0000 9010 2001 4000 0000 0000160 0100 0000 81c7 e008 81e8 0000 0000 0000 0000200 4865 6c6c 6f2c 2057 6f72 6c64 0a00 4865 0000220 6c6c 6f2c 2057 6f72 6c64 0a00 0000 0000 0000240 0000 000c 0000 0608 0000 006e 0000 0010 0000260 0000 060b 0000 006e 0000 0014 0000 0286 0000300 ffff ffec 0000 0020 0000 0608 0000 0060 0000320 0000 0024 0000 060b 0000 0060 0000 0028 0000340 0000 0186 ffff ffd8 0000 004c 0000 0386 0000360 ffff ffb4 0000 0004 0500 0000 0000 0000 0000400 0000 000a 0100 0000 0000 0000 0000 0012 0000420 0100 0000 0000 0000 0000 001a 0100 0000 0000440 0000 0000 0000 0020 5f6d 6169 6e00 5f70 0000460 7269 6e74 6600 5f73 7472 6c65 6e00 5f65 0000500 7869 7400 0000504 % axe_generate -f system.uhdl Application 'Exchange' generated 2324042350000000 source code lines No Errors detected. Hardware retrieval...done OK Certification Test...done OK Packing..............done OK Delivery.............done OK Application 'Exchange' delivered to customer 23456000 bytes/sec. End processing, 2345 seconds. =========================== Ultra high level programmer =========================== system.uhdl : SYSTEM CREATE ScreenWin SIZE 20000000/Unit=One DESTINATION Order.dest[One] OUTPUT CHARACTER['Hello world'] END END =========== New Manager =========== 10 PRINT "HELLO WORLD" 20 END ============== Middle Manager ============== mail -s "Hello, world." bob@b12 Bob, could you please write me a program that prints "Hello, world."? I need it by tomorrow. ^D ============== Senior Manager ============== % zmail all I need a "Hello, world." program by this afternoon. =============== Chief Executive =============== % message message: Command not found % pm pm: Command not found % letter letter: Command not found. % mail To: ^X ^F ^C >> help mail help: Command not found. >>what what: Command not found >>need help need: Command not found >> damn! !: Event unrecognized >>exit exit: Unknown >>quit % % logout -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Regards (:)OINK! __ ^..^ __ ___||___(oo)____||___ ---||---"--"----||--- ___||___(___)___||___ ===================== From owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 17 11:13:58 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CD97D16A4CE for ; Wed, 17 Mar 2004 11:13:58 -0800 (PST) Received: from krusty.intranet.com.mx (krusty.intranet.com.mx [200.33.246.3]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3307B43D1F for ; Wed, 17 Mar 2004 11:13:58 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jbiquez@icsmx.com) Received: from intra1ofi.icsmx.com ([200.33.246.4]) by krusty.intranet.com.mx (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id i2HJEKwe065298 for ; Wed, 17 Mar 2004 13:15:40 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from jbiquez@icsmx.com) Message-Id: <5.1.0.14.2.20040317130926.02ea2150@mail.icsmx.com> X-Sender: jbiquez@mail.icsmx.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Wed, 17 Mar 2004 13:10:05 -0600 To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org From: Jorge Biquez In-Reply-To: <4058A0CB.8010307@ukug.uk.freebsd.org> References: <40589DD1.7050003@daleco.biz> <40589DD1.7050003@daleco.biz> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Subject: Re: Programmer joke... X-BeenThere: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Non technical items related to the community List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 17 Mar 2004 19:13:58 -0000 Hello. Thanks!!!!.. The best I've ever read .... take care all... JB At 07:02 p.m. 17/03/04 +0000, you wrote: >Kevin D. Kinsey, DaleCo, S.P. wrote: > >>Anyone got a good programmer joke? > >Will this do? > >The Evolution of a Programmer >----------------------------- > >High School/Jr.High >=================== > >10 PRINT "HELLO WORLD" >20 END > >===================== >First year in College >===================== > >program Hello(input, output) >begin >writeln('Hello World'); >end. > >====================== >Senior year in College >====================== > >(defun hello >(print >(cons 'Hello (list 'World)))) > >================ >New professional >================ > >#include >void main(void) >{ >char *message[] = {"Hello ", "World"}; >int i; > >for(i = 0; i < 2; ++i) >printf("%s", message[i]); >printf("\n"); >} > >==================== >Seasoned professional >===================== > >#include >#include > >class string >{ >private: >int size; >char *ptr; > >public: >string() : size(0), ptr(new char('\0')) {} > >string(const string &s) : size(s.size) >{ >ptr = new char[size + 1]; >strcpy(ptr, s.ptr); >} > >~string() >{ >delete [] ptr; >} > >friend ostream &operator <<(ostream &, const string &); >string &operator=(const char *); >}; > >ostream &operator<<(ostream &stream, const string &s) >{ >return(stream << s.ptr); >} > >string &string::operator=(const char *chrs) >{ >if (this != &chrs) >{ >delete [] ptr; >size = strlen(chrs); >ptr = new char[size + 1]; >strcpy(ptr, chrs); >} >return(*this); >} > >int main() >{ >string str; > >str = "Hello World"; >cout << str << endl; > >return(0); >} > >================= >Master Programmer >================= > >[ >uuid(2573F8F4-CFEE-101A-9A9F-00AA00342820) >] >library LHello >{ >// bring in the master library >importlib("actimp.tlb"); >importlib("actexp.tlb"); > >// bring in my interfaces >#include "pshlo.idl" > >[ >uuid(2573F8F5-CFEE-101A-9A9F-00AA00342820) >] >cotype THello >{ >interface IHello; >interface IPersistFile; >}; >}; > >[ >exe, >uuid(2573F890-CFEE-101A-9A9F-00AA00342820) >] >module CHelloLib >{ > >// some code related header files >importheader(); >importheader(); >importheader(); >importheader("pshlo.h"); >importheader("shlo.hxx"); >importheader("mycls.hxx"); > >// needed typelibs >importlib("actimp.tlb"); >importlib("actexp.tlb"); >importlib("thlo.tlb"); > >[ >uuid(2573F891-CFEE-101A-9A9F-00AA00342820), >aggregatable >] >coclass CHello >{ >cotype THello; >}; >}; > >#include "ipfix.hxx" >extern HANDLE hEvent; >class CHello : public CHelloBase >{ >public: >IPFIX(CLSID_CHello); > >CHello(IUnknown *pUnk); >~CHello(); > >HRESULT __stdcall PrintSz(LPWSTR pwszString); > >private: >static int cObjRef; >}; > >#include >#include >#include >#include >#include "thlo.h" >#include "pshlo.h" >#include "shlo.hxx" >#include "mycls.hxx" > >int CHello:cObjRef = 0; > >CHello::CHello(IUnknown *pUnk) : CHelloBase(pUnk) >{ >cObjRef++; >return; >} > >HRESULT __stdcall CHello::PrintSz(LPWSTR pwszString) >{ >printf("%ws\n", pwszString); >return(ResultFromScode(S_OK)); >} > > >CHello::~CHello(void) >{ > >// when the object count goes to zero, stop the server >cObjRef--; >if( cObjRef == 0 ) >PulseEvent(hEvent); > >return; >} > >#include >#include >#include "pshlo.h" >#include "shlo.hxx" >#include "mycls.hxx" > >HANDLE hEvent; > >int _cdecl main( >int argc, >char * argv[] >) { >ULONG ulRef; >DWORD dwRegistration; >CHelloCF *pCF = new CHelloCF(); > >hEvent = CreateEvent(NULL, FALSE, FALSE, NULL); > >// Initialize the OLE libraries >CoInitiali, NULL); > >// Initialize the OLE libraries >CoInitializeEx(NULL, COINIT_MULTITHREADED); > >CoRegisterClassObject(CLSID_CHello, pCF, CLSCTX_LOCAL_SERVER, >REGCLS_MULTIPLEUSE, &dwRegistration); > >// wait on an event to stop >WaitForSingleObject(hEvent, INFINITE); > >// revoke and release the class object >CoRevokeClassObject(dwRegistration); >ulRef = pCF->Release(); > >// Tell OLE we are going away. >CoUninitialize(); > >return(0); } > >extern CLSID CLSID_CHello; >extern UUID LIBID_CHelloLib; > >CLSID CLSID_CHello = { /* 2573F891-CFEE-101A-9A9F-00AA00342820 */ >0x2573F891, >0xCFEE, >0x101A, >{ 0x9A, 0x9F, 0x00, 0xAA, 0x00, 0x34, 0x28, 0x20 } >}; > >UUID LIBID_CHelloLib = { /* 2573F890-CFEE-101A-9A9F-00AA00342820 */ >0x2573F890, >0xCFEE, >0x101A, >{ 0x9A, 0x9F, 0x00, 0xAA, 0x00, 0x34, 0x28, 0x20 } >}; > >#include >#include >#include >#include >#include >#include "pshlo.h" >#include "shlo.hxx" >#include "clsid.h" > >int _cdecl main( >int argc, >char * argv[] >) { >HRESULT hRslt; >IHello *pHello; >ULONG ulCnt; >IMoniker * pmk; >WCHAR wcsT[_MAX_PATH]; >WCHAR wcsPath[2 * _MAX_PATH]; > >// get object path >wcsPath[0] = '\0'; >wcsT[0] = '\0'; >if( argc > 1) { >mbstowcs(wcsPath, argv[1], strlen(argv[1]) + 1); >wcsupr(wcsPath); >} >else { >fprintf(stderr, "Object path must be specified\n"); >return(1); >} > >// get print string >if(argc > 2) >mbstowcs(wcsT, argv[2], strlen(argv[2]) + 1); >else >wcscpy(wcsT, L"Hello World"); > >printf("Linking to object %ws\n", wcsPath); >printf("Text String %ws\n", wcsT); > >// Initialize the OLE libraries >hRslt = CoInitializeEx(NULL, COINIT_MULTITHREADED); > >if(SUCCEEDED(hRslt)) { > >hRslt = CreateFileMoniker(wcsPath, &pmk); >if(SUCCEEDED(hRslt)) >hRslt = BindMoniker(pmk, 0, IID_IHello, (void **)&pHello); > >if(SUCCEEDED(hRslt)) { > >// print a string out >pHello->PrintSz(wcsT); > >Sleep(2000); >ulCnt = pHello->Release(); >} >else >printf("Failure to connect, status: %lx", hRslt); > >// Tell OLE we are going away. >CoUninitialize(); >} > >return(0); >} > >================= >Apprentice Hacker >================= > >#!/usr/local/bin/perl >$msg="Hello, world.\n"; >if ($#ARGV >= 0) { >while(defined($arg=shift(@ARGV))) { >$outfilename = $arg; >open(FILE, ">" . $outfilename) || die "Can't write $arg: $!\n"; >print (FILE $msg); >close(FILE) || die "Can't close $arg: $!\n"; >} >} else { >print ($msg); >} >1; > >================== >Experienced Hacker >================== > >#include >#define S "Hello, World\n" >main(){exit(printf(S) == strlen(S) ? 0 : 1);} > >=============== >Seasoned Hacker >=============== > >% cc -o a.out ~/src/misc/hw/hw.c >% a.out > >=========== >Guru Hacker >=========== > >% cat >Hello, world. >^D > >===================== >AXE System programmer >===================== > >LL0: >.seg "data" >.seg "text" >.proc 04 >.global _main >_main: >!#PROLOGUE# 0 >sethi %hi(LF26),%g1 >add %g1,%lo(LF26),%g1 >save %sp,%g1,%sp >!#PROLOGUE# 1 >.seg "data1" >L30: >.ascii "Hello, World\012\0" >.seg "text" >.seg "data1" >L32: >.ascii "Hello, World\012\0" >.seg "text" >set L32,%o0 >call _strlen,1 >nop >mov %o0,%i5 >set L30,%o0 >call _printf,1 >nop >cmp %o0,%i5 >bne L2000000 >nop >mov 0,%o0 >b L2000001 >nop >L2000000: >mov 0x1,%o0 >L2000001: >call _exit,1 >nop >LE26: >ret >restore >LF26 = -96 >LP26 = 96 >LST26 = 96 >LT26 = 96 >.seg "data" > >0000000 0103 0107 0000 0060 0000 0020 0000 0000 >0000020 0000 0030 0000 0000 0000 0054 0000 0000 >0000040 033f ffff 8200 63a0 9de3 8001 1100 0000 >0000060 9012 2000 4000 0000 0100 0000 ba10 0008 >0000100 1100 0000 9012 2000 4000 0000 0100 00 ba10 0008 >0000100 1100 0000 9012 2000 4000 0000 0100 0000 >0000120 80a2 001d 1280 0005 0100 0000 9010 2000 >0000140 1080 0003 0100 0000 9010 2001 4000 0000 >0000160 0100 0000 81c7 e008 81e8 0000 0000 0000 >0000200 4865 6c6c 6f2c 2057 6f72 6c64 0a00 4865 >0000220 6c6c 6f2c 2057 6f72 6c64 0a00 0000 0000 >0000240 0000 000c 0000 0608 0000 006e 0000 0010 >0000260 0000 060b 0000 006e 0000 0014 0000 0286 >0000300 ffff ffec 0000 0020 0000 0608 0000 0060 >0000320 0000 0024 0000 060b 0000 0060 0000 0028 >0000340 0000 0186 ffff ffd8 0000 004c 0000 0386 >0000360 ffff ffb4 0000 0004 0500 0000 0000 0000 >0000400 0000 000a 0100 0000 0000 0000 0000 0012 >0000420 0100 0000 0000 0000 0000 001a 0100 0000 >0000440 0000 0000 0000 0020 5f6d 6169 6e00 5f70 >0000460 7269 6e74 6600 5f73 7472 6c65 6e00 5f65 >0000500 7869 7400 >0000504 > >% axe_generate -f system.uhdl >Application 'Exchange' generated >2324042350000000 source code lines >No Errors detected. >Hardware retrieval...done OK >Certification Test...done OK >Packing..............done OK >Delivery.............done OK >Application 'Exchange' delivered to customer >23456000 bytes/sec. >End processing, 2345 seconds. > >=========================== >Ultra high level programmer >=========================== > >system.uhdl : > >SYSTEM >CREATE ScreenWin >SIZE 20000000/Unit=One >DESTINATION Order.dest[One] >OUTPUT CHARACTER['Hello world'] >END >END > >=========== >New Manager >=========== > >10 PRINT "HELLO WORLD" >20 END > >============== >Middle Manager >============== > >mail -s "Hello, world." bob@b12 > >Bob, could you please write me a program that prints >"Hello, world."? I need it by tomorrow. > >^D > >============== >Senior Manager >============== > >% zmail all > >I need a "Hello, world." program by this afternoon. > >=============== >Chief Executive >=============== > >% message >message: Command not found >% pm >pm: Command not found >% letter >letter: Command not found. >% mail >To: ^X ^F ^C > > >> help mail > >help: Command not found. > > >>what > >what: Command not found > > >>need help > >need: Command not found > > >> damn! > >!: Event unrecognized > > >>exit > >exit: Unknown > > >>quit > >% >% logout > > > >-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > >Regards > > > (:)OINK! > __ ^..^ __ >___||___(oo)____||___ >---||---"--"----||--- >___||___(___)___||___ >===================== > > > >_______________________________________________ >freebsd-chat@freebsd.org mailing list >http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-chat >To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-chat-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 17 11:14:22 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5DC8D16A4CE for ; Wed, 17 Mar 2004 11:14:22 -0800 (PST) Received: from smtp.nildram.co.uk (smtp.nildram.co.uk [195.112.4.54]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2C4DB43D46 for ; Wed, 17 Mar 2004 11:14:22 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mark@ukug.uk.freebsd.org) Received: from ukug.uk.freebsd.org (parish.gotadsl.co.uk [62.3.235.43]) by smtp.nildram.co.uk (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8261F2A08EA; Wed, 17 Mar 2004 19:13:48 +0000 (GMT) Message-ID: <4058A37A.8000307@ukug.uk.freebsd.org> Date: Wed, 17 Mar 2004 19:14:02 +0000 From: Mark Ovens User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 7.0 (Windows/20040303) X-Accept-Language: en-gb, en-us MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Kevin D. Kinsey, DaleCo, S.P." , FreeBSD Chat References: <40589DD1.7050003@daleco.biz> <4058A0CB.8010307@ukug.uk.freebsd.org> In-Reply-To: <4058A0CB.8010307@ukug.uk.freebsd.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Programmer joke... X-BeenThere: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Non technical items related to the community List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 17 Mar 2004 19:14:22 -0000 Mark Ovens wrote: > Kevin D. Kinsey, DaleCo, S.P. wrote: > Anyone got a good programmer joke? > > Will this do? > > The Evolution of a Programmer > ----------------------------- Or these (not really jokes, but funny nonetheless)..... Funny C declarations! --------------------- auto accident; register voters; static electricity; struct by_lightning; void *where_prohibited; char broiled; short circuit; short changed; long johns; unsigned long letter; double entendre; double trouble; double glazing; union organizer; union pacific, railroad; float valve; short pants; union station; void check; unsigned check; struct dumb by[sizeof (member)]; union onion; /*submitted by srp*/ /*if GCC extensions are allowed -- Dave Gilbert*/ long long ago; /* in a galaxy far far away */ ========================================= Silly Commands -------------- Note that the '%' prompt indicates that the command should be issued from the C shell, and the '$' prompt indicates the Bourne shell. % rm meese-ethics rm: meese-ethics nonexistent % ar m God ar: God does not exist % "How would you rate Reagan's incompetence? Unmatched ". % [Where is Jimmy Hoffa? Missing ]. % ^How did the sex change^ operation go? Modifier failed. % If I had a ( for every $ Congress spent, what would I have? Too many ('s. % make love Make: Don't know how to make love. Stop. % sleep with me bad character % got a light? No match. % man: why did you get a divorce? man:: Too many arguments. % ^What is saccharine? Bad substitute. % %blow %blow: No such job. % \(- (-: Command not found. % sh $ PATH=pretending! /usr/ucb/which sense no sense in pretending! $ drink < bottle; opener bottle: cannot open opener: not found $ mkdir matter; cat > matter matter: cannot create From owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 17 14:21:13 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8BB1116A4F2 for ; Wed, 17 Mar 2004 14:21:13 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail19f.dulles19-verio.com (mail19f.dulles19-verio.com [198.170.241.24]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id E080C43D1F for ; Wed, 17 Mar 2004 14:21:12 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from rob@pythonemproject.com) Received: from www.pythonemproject.com (198.104.176.109)0-0129972070 for ; Wed, 17 Mar 2004 17:21:10 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <4058CF56.60104@pythonemproject.com> Date: Wed, 17 Mar 2004 14:21:10 -0800 From: Rob User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.6) Gecko/20040217 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: chat@freebsd.org References: <40589DD1.7050003@daleco.biz> <4058A0CB.8010307@ukug.uk.freebsd.org> <4058A37A.8000307@ukug.uk.freebsd.org> In-Reply-To: <4058A37A.8000307@ukug.uk.freebsd.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Loop-Detect: 1 Subject: Re: Programmer joke... X-BeenThere: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Non technical items related to the community List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 17 Mar 2004 22:21:13 -0000 all very funny. Question, in the scaled programmer Joke, where was Python? From the console: "Hello World" Rob Mark Ovens wrote: > Mark Ovens wrote: > >> Kevin D. Kinsey, DaleCo, S.P. wrote: >> > Anyone got a good programmer joke? > >> >> Will this do? >> >> The Evolution of a Programmer >> ----------------------------- > > > Or these (not really jokes, but funny nonetheless)..... > > Funny C declarations! > --------------------- > auto accident; > register voters; > static electricity; > struct by_lightning; > void *where_prohibited; > char broiled; > short circuit; > short changed; > long johns; > unsigned long letter; > double entendre; > double trouble; > double glazing; > union organizer; > union pacific, railroad; > float valve; > short pants; > union station; > void check; > unsigned check; > struct dumb by[sizeof (member)]; > union onion; /*submitted by srp*/ > > /*if GCC extensions are allowed -- Dave Gilbert*/ > > long long ago; /* in a galaxy far far away */ > > ========================================= > > Silly Commands > -------------- > > Note that the '%' prompt indicates that the command should be issued > from the C shell, and the '$' prompt indicates the Bourne shell. > > % rm meese-ethics > rm: meese-ethics nonexistent > > % ar m God > ar: God does not exist > > % "How would you rate Reagan's incompetence? > Unmatched ". > > % [Where is Jimmy Hoffa? > Missing ]. > > % ^How did the sex change^ operation go? > Modifier failed. > > % If I had a ( for every $ Congress spent, what would I have? > Too many ('s. > > % make love > Make: Don't know how to make love. Stop. > > % sleep with me > bad character > > % got a light? > No match. > > % man: why did you get a divorce? > man:: Too many arguments. > > % ^What is saccharine? > Bad substitute. > > % %blow > %blow: No such job. > > % \(- > (-: Command not found. > > % sh > > $ PATH=pretending! /usr/ucb/which sense > no sense in pretending! > > $ drink < bottle; opener > bottle: cannot open > opener: not found > > $ mkdir matter; cat > matter > matter: cannot create > > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-chat@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-chat > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-chat-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 17 17:17:40 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4404D16A4CE for ; Wed, 17 Mar 2004 17:17:40 -0800 (PST) Received: from mailout.zetnet.co.uk (mailout.zetnet.co.uk [194.247.47.231]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DCD3443D31 for ; Wed, 17 Mar 2004 17:17:39 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from frank@esperance-linux.co.uk) Received: from irwell.zetnet.co.uk ([194.247.47.48] helo=zetnet.co.uk) by mailout.zetnet.co.uk with esmtp (Exim 3.36 #1 (Debian)) id 1B3mAE-0005Gv-00 for ; Thu, 18 Mar 2004 01:17:38 +0000 Received: from esperance.zetnet.co.uk (bts-0987.dialup.zetnet.co.uk [194.247.51.219])i2I1HZTD017534 for ; Thu, 18 Mar 2004 01:17:37 GMT Received: (qmail 56031 invoked by uid 1001); 18 Mar 2004 00:06:27 -0000 From: "Frank Shute" Date: Thu, 18 Mar 2004 00:06:27 +0000 To: Mark Ovens Message-ID: <20040318000627.GA56009@peach.veggie.com> Mail-Followup-To: Mark Ovens , FreeBSD Chat , freebsd-users@uk.freebsd.org References: <40589ADF.4000804@ukug.uk.freebsd.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <40589ADF.4000804@ukug.uk.freebsd.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2i X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 4.9-RELEASE-p2 i386 X-Organisation: 'Esperance Linux' cc: FreeBSD Chat cc: freebsd-users@uk.freebsd.org Subject: Re: A shaggy dog story? X-BeenThere: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Frank Shute List-Id: Non technical items related to the community List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 18 Mar 2004 01:17:40 -0000 On Wed, Mar 17, 2004 at 06:37:19PM +0000, Mark Ovens wrote: > > I took SWMBO's car in today to have a couple of new tyres fitted. Whilst > I was waiting for it, a young lady brought her car in for new tyres as > well and she had her dog with her. > > What's this got to do with FreeBSD you might wonder? Well, normally, > nothing, except that this dog was called Linux! I kid you not; I thought > I'd misheard her the first time she called it. > > Unfortunately she didn't wait around while her car was done so I didn't > get the chance to enquire further. Was she a Linux user, or just like > the name? If she was a Linux user I would have suggeted that she tried > FreeBSD, but then she'd have to rename the dog Beastie (or Chuck). > > I did wonder as she and the dog walked off whether she had a > pooper-scooper to clear up all it's core dumps ;-) If the dog's called Linux it must be a mongrel ;) I also hope Stallman doesn't meet this owner and her dog or he'd demand that she change it's name to GNU/Linux and some unpleasantness might ensue. -- Frank *-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-* Boroughbridge. Tel: 01423 323019 --------- PGP keyID: 0xC0B341A3 *-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-* http://www.esperance-linux.co.uk/ Bread is often a "gateway" food item, leading the user to "harder" items such as butter, jelly, peanut butter and even cold cuts. From owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 17 19:17:20 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4689916A4CE for ; Wed, 17 Mar 2004 19:17:20 -0800 (PST) Received: from smtp105.mail.sc5.yahoo.com (smtp105.mail.sc5.yahoo.com [66.163.169.225]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 3A8B343D39 for ; Wed, 17 Mar 2004 19:17:20 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from r11roadster@yahoo.com) Received: from unknown (HELO Tarabon) (r11roadster@66.191.52.133 with login) by smtp105.mail.sc5.yahoo.com with SMTP; 18 Mar 2004 03:17:19 -0000 From: "Ronny Hippler" To: "chat@freebsd.org" Date: Wed, 17 Mar 2004 22:17:03 -0500 Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 2000 Professional (2.20.2717) For Windows 2000 (5.1.2600;1) In-Reply-To: <40589DD1.7050003@daleco.biz> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <20040318031720.3A8B343D39@mx1.FreeBSD.org> Subject: Re: Programmer joke... X-BeenThere: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Ronny Hippler List-Id: Non technical items related to the community List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 18 Mar 2004 03:17:20 -0000 -----BEGIN=20PGP=20SIGNED=20MESSAGE----- Hash:=20SHA1 On=20Wed,=2017=20Mar=202004=2012:49:53=20-0600,=20Kevin=20D.=20Kinsey,=20D= aleCo,=20S.P. wrote: >Anyone=20got=20a=20good=20programmer=20joke? oldie=20but=20goodie..... =20=20=20=20=20Programmer's=20Guide=20to=20Shooting=20Yourself=20in=20the=20= Foot. Assembler:=20You=20shoot=20yourself=20in=20the=20foot. Ada:=20The=20Department=20of=20Defense=20shoots=20you=20in=20the=20foot=20= after=20offering you=20a=20blindfold=20and=20last=20cigarette. APL:=20GN=20=ED=20FT=20^=20BLT BASIC=20(Interpreted):=20You=20shoot=20yourslf=20in=20the=20foot=20with=20= a=20water=20pistol until=20your=20leg=20is=20waterlogged=20and=20rots=20off. 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Ronny=20Hippler=20||=20Spartanburg=20SC http://www.vr5.dyndns.org:8008/=20||=20ftp://ftp.vr5.dyndns.org:2112/ For=20PGP=20key=20email=20with=20"PGPKey"=20in=20the=20subject -----BEGIN=20PGP=20SIGNATURE----- Version:=20PGP=20SDK=203.0.2 iQA/AwUBQFkUrzeqiUsaKJ66EQK4bwCg0ZiFvST2KCzDSl17PZBvVJwaeUcAnRLw 79hovCf4Uqg3sjkSxuCeOo6U =3DTfcJ -----END=20PGP=20SIGNATURE----- From owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 18 04:42:47 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E493316A4CE for ; Thu, 18 Mar 2004 04:42:47 -0800 (PST) Received: from bast.unixathome.org (bast.unixathome.org [66.11.174.150]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AFE8843D31 for ; Thu, 18 Mar 2004 04:42:47 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from dan@langille.org) Received: from xeon (xeon.unixathome.org [192.168.0.18]) by bast.unixathome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 95C8D3D32 for ; Thu, 18 Mar 2004 07:42:46 -0500 (EST) Date: Thu, 18 Mar 2004 07:42:46 -0500 (EST) From: Dan Langille X-X-Sender: dan@xeon.unixathome.org To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20040318073514.A69874@xeon.unixathome.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Subject: warning: biff_notify: Invalid argument X-BeenThere: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Non technical items related to the community List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 18 Mar 2004 12:42:48 -0000 I regularly see this message in /var/log/messages in a jail I'm running. It appears on no other machine: warning: biff_notify: Invalid argument It is annoying more than anything. I'd like to get rid of it, but I can't see how. After reading man biff, I checked all the .login and .profile files I could find (there are only three users in the jail). I also grepped entire home directories, but found nothing calling biff. Any ideas? -- Dan Langille - BSDCan: http://www.bsdcan.org/ From owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 18 06:25:57 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E3CE816A4CE for ; Thu, 18 Mar 2004 06:25:57 -0800 (PST) Received: from smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk [81.2.69.218]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B3CA843D1D for ; Thu, 18 Mar 2004 06:25:56 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) Received: from happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk (localhost [IPv6:::1]) i2IEPonE058850 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Thu, 18 Mar 2004 14:25:50 GMT (envelope-from matthew@happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk) Received: (from matthew@localhost)id i2IEPoH2058849; Thu, 18 Mar 2004 14:25:50 GMT (envelope-from matthew) Date: Thu, 18 Mar 2004 14:25:49 +0000 From: Matthew Seaman To: Dan Langille Message-ID: <20040318142549.GA58673@happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk> Mail-Followup-To: Dan Langille , freebsd-chat@freebsd.org References: <20040318073514.A69874@xeon.unixathome.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="lrZ03NoBR/3+SXJZ" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20040318073514.A69874@xeon.unixathome.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.6i X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-4.8 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=2.63 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk X-Virus-Scanned: clamd / ClamAV version devel-20040316, clamav-milter version 0.67l cc: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Subject: Re: warning: biff_notify: Invalid argument X-BeenThere: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Non technical items related to the community List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 18 Mar 2004 14:25:58 -0000 --lrZ03NoBR/3+SXJZ Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Thu, Mar 18, 2004 at 07:42:46AM -0500, Dan Langille wrote: > I regularly see this message in /var/log/messages in a jail I'm running. > It appears on no other machine: >=20 > warning: biff_notify: Invalid argument >=20 > It is annoying more than anything. I'd like to get rid of it, but I can't > see how. >=20 > After reading man biff, I checked all the .login and .profile files I > could find (there are only three users in the jail). I also grepped > entire home directories, but found nothing calling biff. >=20 > Any ideas? Do you have comsat(8) enabled in /etc/inetd.conf ? Got anything that likes to connect to port 512/udp, such as mail.local(8), procmail(1) or other Mail Delivery Agents? Cheers, Matthew --=20 Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. 26 The Paddocks Savill Way PGP: http://www.infracaninophile.co.uk/pgpkey Marlow Tel: +44 1628 476614 Bucks., SL7 1TH UK --lrZ03NoBR/3+SXJZ Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFAWbFtdtESqEQa7a0RAscaAKCTVZ4N0RFcvS/gkQAwIWS8B0dh2gCfW5go Yp7nQp+HkUuH5M+PilKoxQM= =/AkE -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --lrZ03NoBR/3+SXJZ-- From owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 18 07:25:00 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BF12D16A52E for ; Thu, 18 Mar 2004 07:25:00 -0800 (PST) Received: from pilchuck.reedmedia.net (pilchuck.reedmedia.net [209.166.74.74]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7210243D2F for ; Thu, 18 Mar 2004 07:25:00 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from reed@reedmedia.net) Received: from reed by pilchuck.reedmedia.net with local-esmtp (Exim 3.12 #1 (Debian)) id 1B3zO1-0000Dl-00; Thu, 18 Mar 2004 07:24:45 -0800 Date: Thu, 18 Mar 2004 07:24:45 -0800 (PST) From: "Jeremy C. Reed" To: Dan Langille In-Reply-To: <20040318073514.A69874@xeon.unixathome.org> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII cc: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Subject: Re: warning: biff_notify: Invalid argument X-BeenThere: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Non technical items related to the community List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 18 Mar 2004 15:25:00 -0000 On Thu, 18 Mar 2004, Dan Langille wrote: > I regularly see this message in /var/log/messages in a jail I'm running. > It appears on no other machine: > > warning: biff_notify: Invalid argument This looks like a postfix message, but I am not sure why it doesn't say postfix in the log and why it is in the messages log. If this is postfix, then have your postfix/main.cf have "biff = no" to disable postfix from attempting it. Jeremy C. Reed http://www.reedmedia.net/ From owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 18 07:26:56 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8003C16A4CE for ; Thu, 18 Mar 2004 07:26:56 -0800 (PST) Received: from bast.unixathome.org (bast.unixathome.org [66.11.174.150]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5349B43D1F for ; Thu, 18 Mar 2004 07:26:56 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from dan@langille.org) Received: from xeon (xeon.unixathome.org [192.168.0.18]) by bast.unixathome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9DCB23D3D; Thu, 18 Mar 2004 10:26:55 -0500 (EST) Date: Thu, 18 Mar 2004 10:26:55 -0500 (EST) From: Dan Langille X-X-Sender: dan@xeon.unixathome.org To: "Jeremy C. Reed" In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20040318102551.O69874@xeon.unixathome.org> References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII cc: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Subject: Re: warning: biff_notify: Invalid argument X-BeenThere: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Non technical items related to the community List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 18 Mar 2004 15:26:56 -0000 On Thu, 18 Mar 2004, Jeremy C. Reed wrote: > On Thu, 18 Mar 2004, Dan Langille wrote: > > > I regularly see this message in /var/log/messages in a jail I'm running. > > It appears on no other machine: > > > > warning: biff_notify: Invalid argument > > This looks like a postfix message, but I am not sure why it doesn't say > postfix in the log and why it is in the messages log. > > If this is postfix, then have your postfix/main.cf have "biff = no" to > disable postfix from attempting it. Hmmm, the output from "/usr/local/sbin/postconf | grep biff" indicates that biff is on for all my machines. Why does only this one cause a problem? FWIW, it is also the only jailed Postfix. -- Dan Langille - BSDCan: http://www.bsdcan.org/ From owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 18 08:40:19 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D468D16A4DD for ; Thu, 18 Mar 2004 08:40:19 -0800 (PST) Received: from ren.sasknow.com (ren.sasknow.com [207.195.92.131]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F2B1743D2D for ; Thu, 18 Mar 2004 08:40:13 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from ryan@sasknow.com) Received: from earl.sasknow.net (earl.sasknow.net [207.195.92.130]) by ren.sasknow.com (8.12.8p1/8.12.8) with ESMTP id i2IGe61F074404; Thu, 18 Mar 2004 10:40:06 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from ryan@sasknow.com) Received: from earl.sasknow.net (earl.sasknow.net [207.195.92.130]) by earl.sasknow.net (8.12.9p2/8.12.9) with ESMTP id i2IGe4vE064590; Thu, 18 Mar 2004 10:40:05 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from ryan@sasknow.com) Date: Thu, 18 Mar 2004 10:40:04 -0600 (CST) From: Ryan Thompson To: "Kevin D. Kinsey, DaleCo, S.P." In-Reply-To: <40589DD1.7050003@daleco.biz> Message-ID: <20040318103434.P61702@earl.sasknow.net> References: <40589DD1.7050003@daleco.biz> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: QUOTED-PRINTABLE X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-4.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=2.61 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.61 (1.212.2.1-2003-12-09-exp) on earl.sasknow.net X-Virus-Scanned: clamd / ClamAV version devel-20040316, clamav-milter version 0.70 cc: chat@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Programmer joke... X-BeenThere: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Non technical items related to the community List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 18 Mar 2004 16:40:20 -0000 Kevin D. Kinsey, DaleCo, S.P. wrote to chat@freebsd.org: > Anyone got a good programmer joke? Well, I came up with this the other day: I really miss the days where spam was a mystery meat, viruses were treatable primarily with chicken soup and bedrest, and an "inbox" was something in which I could put all of my Atari manuals. =C9mail was a material used to glaze ceramics. Servers were the people you tipped well if they didn't fsck up your order. Procedures were followed, not debugged. Functions were things you dressed up for. Threads were stylin', and not so prone to memory leaks. Bootstraps were... well, they were bootstraps. Power bars contained carbohydrates. Unattended backups were what happened when your toilet overflowed while you were away on vacation. Keyboards were friendly (honestly, when did you ever hear of an ill-tempered clavier?). Mice were always cordless. File systems could be designed and implemented by minimum-wage secretarial help. If you made a new device, you got a patent, not a major number. Mounting special devices was generally done against doctor's orders. Batches of things were generally edible, not editable. A brute force crypt attack usually involved a mallet and a wooden stake. Less was only sometimes more. Scripts were generally well-written. The answer to "whoami" wasn't limited to sixteen alpha-numeric characters. Windows were transparent and could be replaced without having to also re-install one's appliances and re-re-decorate. Jails had exercise programs. Trees had the leaves on top. Hash functions were a lot more laid back. Stack smashing was really only popular among violent extremists. Excel was a verb, and it had positive connotations. "named" was correctly monosyllabic. Hooks suspended coats and caught fish for supper. Goals in bus architecture included seating capacity and fuel economy. North bridges and south bridges could be quenched with water if they caught fire. Rust was about the only thing one had to watch for on one's chassis. Menus didn't need keyboard shortcuts. Registers were the things one filled out at weddings and such. Loop unrolling, you might do with say, an extension cord. Pointers didn't require dereferencing to be useful. Most people knew what "or" meant. People who attempted to send messages to objects were given better drugs. Classes usually had at least one hot girl (or guy). Hacking either involved chest congestion, or a big knife, or both. Pirates had cool ships. - Ryan --=20 Ryan Thompson SaskNow Technologies - http://www.sasknow.com 901-1st Avenue North - Saskatoon, SK - S7K 1Y4 Tel: 306-664-3600 Fax: 306-244-7037 Saskatoon Toll-Free: 877-727-5669 (877-SASKNOW) North America From owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 18 10:19:51 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2DE0B16A4CE for ; Thu, 18 Mar 2004 10:19:51 -0800 (PST) Received: from 82-41-155-225.cable.ubr01.linl.blueyonder.co.uk (82-41-155-225.cable.ubr01.linl.blueyonder.co.uk [82.41.155.225]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DCA6043D1F for ; Thu, 18 Mar 2004 10:19:50 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from andrew@mux.org.uk) Received: from mux.org.uk (spatula.home [192.168.0.4]) by gateway.home (Postfix) with ESMTP id 08EF512F; Thu, 18 Mar 2004 18:19:48 +0000 (GMT) Message-ID: <4059E844.5070608@mux.org.uk> Date: Thu, 18 Mar 2004 18:19:48 +0000 From: Andrew Boothman User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.0; en-US; rv:1.6b) Gecko/20031205 Thunderbird/0.4 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Mark Ovens References: <40589ADF.4000804@ukug.uk.freebsd.org> In-Reply-To: <40589ADF.4000804@ukug.uk.freebsd.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: FreeBSD Chat cc: freebsd-users@uk.freebsd.org Subject: Re: A shaggy dog story? X-BeenThere: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Non technical items related to the community List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 18 Mar 2004 18:19:51 -0000 Mark Ovens wrote: > I took SWMBO's car in today to have a couple of new tyres fitted. Whilst > I was waiting for it, a young lady brought her car in for new tyres as > well and she had her dog with her. > > What's this got to do with FreeBSD you might wonder? Well, normally, > nothing, except that this dog was called Linux! I kid you not; I thought > I'd misheard her the first time she called it. I wonder if she appricates that the dog license for that dog will have to apply to all it's puppies as well? ;) Andrew From owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 18 11:07:24 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5DBCC16A4CF for ; Thu, 18 Mar 2004 11:07:24 -0800 (PST) Received: from ns1.tiadon.com (SMTP.tiadon.com [69.27.132.161]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0363843D39 for ; Thu, 18 Mar 2004 11:07:24 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from kdk@daleco.biz) Received: from daleco.biz ([69.27.131.0]) by ns1.tiadon.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.0); Thu, 18 Mar 2004 13:07:52 -0600 Message-ID: <4059F367.6070701@daleco.biz> Date: Thu, 18 Mar 2004 13:07:19 -0600 From: "Kevin D. Kinsey, DaleCo, S.P." User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.6) Gecko/20040212 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Andrew Boothman References: <40589ADF.4000804@ukug.uk.freebsd.org> <4059E844.5070608@mux.org.uk> In-Reply-To: <4059E844.5070608@mux.org.uk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-OriginalArrivalTime: 18 Mar 2004 19:07:53.0390 (UTC) FILETIME=[507E0CE0:01C40D1C] cc: FreeBSD Chat cc: Mark Ovens cc: freebsd-users@uk.freebsd.org Subject: Re: A shaggy dog story? X-BeenThere: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Non technical items related to the community List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 18 Mar 2004 19:07:24 -0000 Andrew Boothman wrote: > Mark Ovens wrote: > >> I took SWMBO's car in today to have a couple of new tyres fitted. >> Whilst I was waiting for it, a young lady brought her car in for new >> tyres as well and she had her dog with her. >> >> What's this got to do with FreeBSD you might wonder? Well, normally, >> nothing, except that this dog was called Linux! I kid you not; I >> thought I'd misheard her the first time she called it. > > > I wonder if she appricates that the dog license for that dog will have > to apply to all it's puppies as well? ;) > > Andrew ROFL! Not to mention, having to release the "source code" to any interested party will make your PO box a stinking sticky mess .... :o From owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 18 15:10:17 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C421216A4CE for ; Thu, 18 Mar 2004 15:10:17 -0800 (PST) Received: from enterprise.sd73.bc.ca (romulus-net.sd73.bc.ca [142.24.13.134]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8A50B43D1D for ; Thu, 18 Mar 2004 15:10:17 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from fcash-ml@sd73.bc.ca) Received: from mailtest.sd73.bc.ca (mailtest.sd73.bc.ca [10.10.10.14]) i2IN0R0c000840 for ; Thu, 18 Mar 2004 15:00:27 -0800 Received: from 192.168.0.185 (SquirrelMail authenticated user fcash) by mailtest.sd73.bc.ca with HTTP; Thu, 18 Mar 2004 15:10:18 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <59516.192.168.0.185.1079651418.squirrel@mailtest.sd73.bc.ca> In-Reply-To: <20040318103434.P61702@earl.sasknow.net> References: <40589DD1.7050003@daleco.biz> <20040318103434.P61702@earl.sasknow.net> Date: Thu, 18 Mar 2004 15:10:18 -0800 (PST) From: "Freddie Cash" To: chat@freebsd.org User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 Importance: Normal Subject: Re: Programmer joke... X-BeenThere: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Non technical items related to the community List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 18 Mar 2004 23:10:17 -0000 Saw this one on Slashdot this afternoon: Jesus and the Devil get into an argument one day about who could use the computer better. Finally, God got tired of them bickering, and offered to be the judge in a contest to see who really was better. The day of the contest came, and both Jesus and the Devil worked all day long, making spreadsheets, typing documents and scanning images. Just a few minutes before the contest ended, the power went out. The devil started cursing and screaming, but Jesus simply turned his PC back on, and printed his work for God to judge. The devil started screaming that Jesus had cheated, and it wasn't fair, but all God said was... Jesus saves! -- Freddie Cash fcash-ml@sd73.bc.ca From owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 18 15:29:13 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B019B16A4CE for ; Thu, 18 Mar 2004 15:29:13 -0800 (PST) Received: from lariat.org (lariat.org [63.229.157.2]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1A83D43D2D for ; Thu, 18 Mar 2004 15:29:13 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from brett@lariat.org) Received: from runaround.lariat.org (IDENT:ppp1000.lariat.org@lariat.org [63.229.157.2]) by lariat.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA21218; Thu, 18 Mar 2004 16:29:03 -0700 (MST) X-message-flag: Warning! Use of Microsoft Outlook renders your system susceptible to Internet worms. Message-Id: <6.0.0.22.2.20040318162838.05342248@localhost> X-Sender: brett@localhost (Unverified) X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 6.0.0.22 Date: Thu, 18 Mar 2004 16:28:59 -0700 To: Andrew Boothman , Mark Ovens From: Brett Glass In-Reply-To: <4059E844.5070608@mux.org.uk> References: <40589ADF.4000804@ukug.uk.freebsd.org> <4059E844.5070608@mux.org.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" cc: FreeBSD Chat Subject: Re: A shaggy dog story? X-BeenThere: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Non technical items related to the community List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 18 Mar 2004 23:29:13 -0000 At 11:19 AM 3/18/2004, Andrew Boothman wrote: >Mark Ovens wrote: >>I took SWMBO's car in today to have a couple of new tyres fitted. Whilst I was waiting for it, a young lady brought her car in for new tyres as well and she had her dog with her. >>What's this got to do with FreeBSD you might wonder? Well, normally, nothing, except that this dog was called Linux! I kid you not; I thought I'd misheard her the first time she called it. > >I wonder if she appricates that the dog license for that dog will have to apply to all it's puppies as well? ;) ..which will have to be given away at no cost. --Brett Glass From owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 18 16:14:56 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2701716A4CE for ; Thu, 18 Mar 2004 16:14:56 -0800 (PST) Received: from smtp.nildram.co.uk (smtp.nildram.co.uk [195.112.4.54]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B182043D1D for ; Thu, 18 Mar 2004 16:14:55 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mark@ukug.uk.freebsd.org) Received: from ukug.uk.freebsd.org (parish.gotadsl.co.uk [62.3.235.43]) by smtp.nildram.co.uk (Postfix) with ESMTP id 268132A4783; Fri, 19 Mar 2004 00:13:58 +0000 (GMT) Message-ID: <405A3B55.7010305@ukug.uk.freebsd.org> Date: Fri, 19 Mar 2004 00:14:13 +0000 From: Mark Ovens User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 7.0 (X11/20040318) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Andrew Boothman References: <40589ADF.4000804@ukug.uk.freebsd.org> <4059E844.5070608@mux.org.uk> In-Reply-To: <4059E844.5070608@mux.org.uk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: FreeBSD Chat cc: freebsd-users@uk.freebsd.org Subject: Re: A shaggy dog story? X-BeenThere: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Non technical items related to the community List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 19 Mar 2004 00:14:56 -0000 Andrew Boothman wrote: > Mark Ovens wrote: >> I took SWMBO's car in today to have a couple of new tyres fitted. Whilst >> I was waiting for it, a young lady brought her car in for new tyres as >> well and she had her dog with her. >> >> What's this got to do with FreeBSD you might wonder? Well, normally, >> nothing, except that this dog was called Linux! I kid you not; I thought >> I'd misheard her the first time she called it. > > I wonder if she appricates that the dog license for that dog will have > to apply to all it's puppies as well? ;) > Gnu Puppy Licence? Regards, Mark > Andrew > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-chat@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-chat > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-chat-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > From owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 18 16:39:15 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C892616A4CE for ; Thu, 18 Mar 2004 16:39:15 -0800 (PST) Received: from smtp.nildram.co.uk (smtp.nildram.co.uk [195.112.4.54]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 99A0243D2D for ; Thu, 18 Mar 2004 16:39:15 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mark@ukug.uk.freebsd.org) Received: from ukug.uk.freebsd.org (parish.gotadsl.co.uk [62.3.235.43]) by smtp.nildram.co.uk (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1A735255CFD for ; Fri, 19 Mar 2004 00:36:41 +0000 (GMT) Message-ID: <405A40A8.40106@ukug.uk.freebsd.org> Date: Fri, 19 Mar 2004 00:36:56 +0000 From: Mark Ovens User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 7.0 (X11/20040318) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: chat@freebsd.org References: <40589DD1.7050003@daleco.biz> <20040318103434.P61702@earl.sasknow.net> <59516.192.168.0.185.1079651418.squirrel@mailtest.sd73.bc.ca> In-Reply-To: <59516.192.168.0.185.1079651418.squirrel@mailtest.sd73.bc.ca> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Programmer joke... X-BeenThere: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Non technical items related to the community List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 19 Mar 2004 00:39:15 -0000 Remember when... A computer was something on TV On a science fiction show of note. A "window" was something you hated to clean, And "ram" was the cousin of a goat. "Meg" was the name of your girlfriend, And "gig" was a job for the nights. Now they all mean different things And that really mega "bytes"! An "application" was for employment. A "program" was a TV show. A "cursor" used profanity. A "keyboard" was a piano. "Memory" was something that you lost with age; A "CD" was a bank account. And if you had a 3-1/2 inch "floppy," You hoped nobody found out! "Compress" was something you did to the garbage, Not something you did to a file. And if you "unzipped" anything in public, You'd be in jail for a while! "Log on" was adding wood to the fire; A "hard drive" was a long trip on the road. A "mouse pad" was where a mouse lived; And "backup" happened to your commode. "Cut" you did with a pocket knife; "Paste" you did with glue. A "web" was a spider's home, And a "virus" was the flu. I guess I'll stick to my pad and paper And the memory in my head. I hear nobody's been killed in a computer crash But when it happens they wish they were dead! Regards, Mark From owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 18 17:56:52 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A6C2316A51C for ; Thu, 18 Mar 2004 17:56:52 -0800 (PST) Received: from hermes.pressenter.com (hermes.pressenter.com [69.58.128.19]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 41AE843D1D for ; Thu, 18 Mar 2004 17:56:52 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from nospam@hiltonbsd.com) Received: from [69.58.135.133] (helo=daggar.sbgnet.local) by hermes.pressenter.com with smtp (Exim 3.35 #1) id 1B48s1-0006fT-00 for freebsd-chat@freebsd.org; Thu, 18 Mar 2004 19:32:21 -0600 Date: Thu, 18 Mar 2004 19:32:18 -0600 From: Stephen Hilton To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Message-Id: <20040318193218.6b2bc0da.nospam@hiltonbsd.com> In-Reply-To: <405A3B55.7010305@ukug.uk.freebsd.org> References: <40589ADF.4000804@ukug.uk.freebsd.org> <4059E844.5070608@mux.org.uk> <405A3B55.7010305@ukug.uk.freebsd.org> X-Mailer: Sylpheed version 0.9.10 (GTK+ 1.2.10; i386-portbld-freebsd5.2.1) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: A shaggy dog story? X-BeenThere: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Non technical items related to the community List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 19 Mar 2004 01:56:52 -0000 On Fri, 19 Mar 2004 00:14:13 +0000 Mark Ovens wrote: > Andrew Boothman wrote: > > Mark Ovens wrote: > >> I took SWMBO's car in today to have a couple of new tyres fitted. Whilst > >> I was waiting for it, a young lady brought her car in for new tyres as > >> well and she had her dog with her. > >> > >> What's this got to do with FreeBSD you might wonder? Well, normally, > >> nothing, except that this dog was called Linux! I kid you not; I thought > >> I'd misheard her the first time she called it. > > > > I wonder if she appricates that the dog license for that dog will have > > to apply to all it's puppies as well? ;) > > > > Gnu Puppy Licence? > I beleive the shaggy dog was a gnufoundland. Cheers, Stephen Hilton nospam@hiltonbsd.com From owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Mar 20 12:06:53 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E38F116A4CE for ; Sat, 20 Mar 2004 12:06:53 -0800 (PST) Received: from schlepper.zs64.net (schlepper.zs64.net [212.12.50.230]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BA9D243D1D for ; Sat, 20 Mar 2004 12:06:52 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from stb@lassitu.de) Received: from [127.0.0.1] (schlepper [212.12.50.230]) by schlepper.zs64.net (8.12.10/8.11.1) with ESMTP id i2KK6o7D093343; Sat, 20 Mar 2004 21:06:50 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from stb@lassitu.de) In-Reply-To: <20040318103434.P61702@earl.sasknow.net> References: <40589DD1.7050003@daleco.biz> <20040318103434.P61702@earl.sasknow.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v613) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Message-Id: <1FBFD0EE-7AAA-11D8-8F9F-000393496BE8@lassitu.de> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Stefan Bethke Date: Sat, 20 Mar 2004 21:06:50 +0100 To: Ryan Thompson X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.613) cc: chat@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Programmer joke... X-BeenThere: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Non technical items related to the community List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 20 Mar 2004 20:06:54 -0000 Am 18.03.2004 um 17:40 schrieb Ryan Thompson: > Jails had exercise programs. Heh. I do run seti@home in a jail whenever I can though... -- Stefan Bethke Fon +49 170 346 0140