From owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 18 20:21:23 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2174F16A4CE for ; Sun, 18 Jan 2004 20:21:23 -0800 (PST) Received: from sizone.org (mortar.sizone.org [65.126.154.242]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A11D043D49 for ; Sun, 18 Jan 2004 20:21:21 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from dgilbert@daveg.ca) Received: by sizone.org (Postfix, from userid 66) id B5BA9308F4; Sun, 18 Jan 2004 23:21:20 -0500 (EST) Received: by canoe.dclg.ca (Postfix, from userid 101) id 55B351D1D17; Sun, 18 Jan 2004 23:21:19 -0500 (EST) From: David Gilbert MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <16395.23359.217640.678336@canoe.dclg.ca> Date: Sun, 18 Jan 2004 23:21:19 -0500 To: Nils Vogels In-Reply-To: <4009CE84.9020307@yuckfou.org> References: <4001207E.6050602@heronetwork.com> <4009CE84.9020307@yuckfou.org> X-Mailer: VM 7.17 under 21.4 (patch 14) "Reasonable Discussion" XEmacs Lucid cc: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Cyrus-imapd failing on sasl_server_init X-BeenThere: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Internet Services Providers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 19 Jan 2004 04:21:23 -0000 >>>>> "Nils" == Nils Vogels writes: Nils> W. Ryan Merrick wrote: >> hello, >> >> I have been abused this for a while. I am trying to setup >> Postfix-2.0.16+cyrus-Imap-2.1.16_1+cyrus-sasl-2.1.17_1 on my >> FreeBSD 4.9 Stable server's inside NIC. I tried questions with no >> replies. >> >> Postfix is configured with: sasl2, TLS, BDB_ver 40 cyrus-imapd2' => >> '--with-sasl --with-openssl WITH_BDB_VER=4' cyrus-sasl2' => >> '--with-openssl WITH_BDB_VER=4 --enable-auth-sasldb --enable-login' >> >> Postfix runs fine by itself It complains that: >> >> Jan 10 02:47:22 c1529030-a postfix/pipe[35530]: 51BDF4113: >> to=, orig_to=, >> relay=cyrus, delay=9701, status=deferred (temporary >> failure. Command output: couldn't connect to lmtpd: Connection >> refused_ 421 4.3.0 deliver: couldn't connect to lmtpd_ ) >> Nils> Your postfix cannot find it's way to the Cyrus doors. Nils> I have the same setup running using Cyrus 2.2.3, and I Nils> encountered this as well, and I fixed it by having Cyrus put Nils> it's socket into the postfix environment and then pointing Nils> postfix to the right socket. Nils> In my case, the latter was done with a transport db, but hey, Nils> it's a free world :) Nils> imapd.conf: lmtpsocket: /var/spool/postfix/public/lmtp Nils> main.cf: transport_maps = hash:$config_directory/transport-cyrus Nils> transport-cyrus: my.virtual.domain.org lmtp:unix:public/lmtp Nils> postmap it, reload postfix and cyrus and have fun ;) In general, the default install of the cyrus imap server puts the lmtp socket inside /var/spool/imap ... which isn't traversable by group mail. It's a permissions problem. Dave. -- ============================================================================ |David Gilbert, Independent Contractor. | Two things can only be | |Mail: dave@daveg.ca | equal if and only if they | |http://daveg.ca | are precisely opposite. | =========================================================GLO================ From owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 19 08:50:09 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0041E16A4CE for ; Mon, 19 Jan 2004 08:50:09 -0800 (PST) Received: from pasmtp.tele.dk (pasmtp.tele.dk [193.162.159.95]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7C34B43D2D for ; Mon, 19 Jan 2004 08:50:07 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from c@pio.dk) Received: from pio.dk (cpe.atm2-0-1081013.0x50c4f962.bynxx9.customer.tele.dk [80.196.249.98]) by pasmtp.tele.dk (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4CE071EC3C3 for ; Mon, 19 Jan 2004 17:50:05 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <400C0BFF.5070507@pio.dk> Date: Mon, 19 Jan 2004 17:55:27 +0100 From: Christoffer Pio User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.0; en-US; rv:1.5) Gecko/20031007 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: FreeBSD router on a USB flash drive? X-BeenThere: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Internet Services Providers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 19 Jan 2004 16:50:09 -0000 Hello all, has anyone experience with booting from, and running a FreeBSD based router on a USB 2.0 flash drive? Is it possible and does it work well? Christoffer From owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 19 22:10:36 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B104816A4CE for ; Mon, 19 Jan 2004 22:10:36 -0800 (PST) Received: from srv1.cosmo-project.de (srv1.cosmo-project.de [213.83.6.106]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 59C4943D31 for ; Mon, 19 Jan 2004 22:10:33 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from andreas@klemm.apsfilter.org) Received: from srv1.cosmo-project.de (localhost [IPv6:::1]) i0K6ASN1005516 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NO) for ; Tue, 20 Jan 2004 07:10:32 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from andreas@klemm.apsfilter.org) Received: (from uucp@localhost)i0K6APgj005515 for freebsd-isp@freebsd.org; Tue, 20 Jan 2004 07:10:25 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from andreas@klemm.apsfilter.org) Received: from titan.klemm.apsfilter.org (localhost.klemm.apsfilter.org [127.0.0.1]) by klemm.apsfilter.org (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id i0K65c2B027337 for ; Tue, 20 Jan 2004 07:05:38 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from andreas@titan.klemm.apsfilter.org) Received: (from andreas@localhost)i0K65cNP027336 for freebsd-isp@freebsd.org; Tue, 20 Jan 2004 07:05:38 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from andreas) Date: Tue, 20 Jan 2004 07:05:38 +0100 From: Andreas Klemm To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20040120060538.GA27260@titan.klemm.apsfilter.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 5.2-RC X-Disclaimer: A free society is one where it is safe to be unpopular User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.5.1i Subject: which FreeBSD application best suited to test multicast routing ? X-BeenThere: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: bits_@web.de List-Id: Internet Services Providers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 20 Jan 2004 06:10:36 -0000 Hi, I have to test Cisco VPN via MPLS. For my lab I need a software - best from the freebsd ports collection - that generates multicast streams from files, not audio or video devices. Does somebody know such a port, that is easily to configure ? I the first attempt I had difficulties to get icecast2 running. BTW, does it send streams via multicast packets ??? Thanks a lot for any pointer Andreas /// -- Andreas Klemm - Powered by FreeBSD 5.1-CURRENT Need a magic printfilter today ? -> http://www.apsfilter.org/ From owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jan 20 03:45:35 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 99DA216A4CE for ; Tue, 20 Jan 2004 03:45:35 -0800 (PST) Received: from newmail.halenet.com.au (newmail.halenet.com.au [203.55.33.235]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 171BF43D2D for ; Tue, 20 Jan 2004 03:45:33 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from timbo@halenet.com.au) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by newmail.halenet.com.au (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1524120B18 for ; Tue, 20 Jan 2004 21:53:09 +1000 (EST) Received: from newmail.halenet.com.au ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (newmail.halenet.com.au [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 08919-06 for ; Tue, 20 Jan 2004 21:53:08 +1000 (EST) Received: from laptopt1 (temp23 [203.55.33.225]) (using TLSv1 with cipher RC4-MD5 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by newmail.halenet.com.au (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6343820AD8 for ; Tue, 20 Jan 2004 21:53:08 +1000 (EST) Message-ID: <534601c3df4a$0e8ef650$6500a8c0@halenet.com.au> From: "Tim McCullagh" To: Date: Tue, 20 Jan 2004 21:39:25 +1000 Organization: HaleNET MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4927.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4927.1200 X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at halenet.com.au Subject: fsck X-BeenThere: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Internet Services Providers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 20 Jan 2004 11:45:35 -0000 Hi Fellows Can someone shed some light on whether it is possible to do a fsck check on a dirty file system if it is installed (and not mounted) as a second HDD on a new system install. I have a mail server that crashed this morning and now fails to boot even into single user mode. So I installed a clean install of FreeBSD 4.9 on a spare HDD and have tried to mount the old drive, but it complains about a "Filesystem is not clean - run fsck". When I do this it seems to want to "WARNING: R/W mount of /var denied." /var is already mounted on da0s1f. Is there any way to run fsck to clean up the filesystem on /dev/da1s1f so that it can be mounted as a second HDD in this type of setup? Are there any other suggestions as to how to clean it up? Regards Tim From owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jan 20 03:57:34 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CAD7C16A4CE for ; Tue, 20 Jan 2004 03:57:34 -0800 (PST) Received: from complx.LF.net (complx.LF.net [212.9.190.63]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D644243D2F for ; Tue, 20 Jan 2004 03:57:33 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from lists@complx.LF.net) Received: from lists by complx.LF.net with local (Exim 4.14) id 1AiuVf-000Epp-DS; Tue, 20 Jan 2004 12:57:31 +0100 Date: Tue, 20 Jan 2004 12:57:31 +0100 From: Kurt Jaeger To: Tim McCullagh Message-ID: <20040120115731.GY987@complx.LF.net> References: <534601c3df4a$0e8ef650$6500a8c0@halenet.com.au> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <534601c3df4a$0e8ef650$6500a8c0@halenet.com.au> cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: fsck X-BeenThere: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: pi@LF.net List-Id: Internet Services Providers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 20 Jan 2004 11:57:34 -0000 Hi! > So I installed a clean install of FreeBSD 4.9 on a spare HDD and have tried > to mount the old drive, but it complains about a "Filesystem is not clean - > run fsck". When I do this it seems to want to "WARNING: R/W mount of /var > denied." /var is already mounted on da0s1f. Is there any way to run > fsck to clean up the filesystem on /dev/da1s1f so that it can be mounted as > a second HDD in this type of setup? > > Are there any other suggestions as to how to clean it up? Just run fsck on the proper partition. fsck /dev/da1s1f -- MfG/Best regards, Kurt Jaeger 16 years to go ! LF.net GmbH fon +49 711 90074-23 pi@LF.net Ruppmannstr. 27 fax +49 711 90074-33 D-70565 Stuttgart mob +49 171 3101372 From owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jan 20 04:05:53 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4CF0816A4CE for ; Tue, 20 Jan 2004 04:05:53 -0800 (PST) Received: from newmail.halenet.com.au (newmail.halenet.com.au [203.55.33.235]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E924943D45 for ; Tue, 20 Jan 2004 04:05:50 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from timbo@halenet.com.au) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by newmail.halenet.com.au (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5216820B1C; Tue, 20 Jan 2004 22:13:27 +1000 (EST) Received: from newmail.halenet.com.au ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (newmail.halenet.com.au [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 09110-09; Tue, 20 Jan 2004 22:13:26 +1000 (EST) Received: from laptopt1 (temp23 [203.55.33.225]) (using TLSv1 with cipher RC4-MD5 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by newmail.halenet.com.au (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6B51320B21; Tue, 20 Jan 2004 22:13:26 +1000 (EST) Message-ID: <535501c3df4c$e49144e0$6500a8c0@halenet.com.au> From: "Tim McCullagh" To: "Putinas Piliponis" References: <534601c3df4a$0e8ef650$6500a8c0@halenet.com.au> <004401c3df4b$abe1f780$1e64a8c0@spotripoli.local> Date: Tue, 20 Jan 2004 21:59:43 +1000 Organization: HaleNET MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1251" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4927.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4927.1200 X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at halenet.com.au cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: fsck X-BeenThere: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Internet Services Providers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 20 Jan 2004 12:05:53 -0000 Hi Putinas ----- Original Message ----- From: "Putinas Piliponis" To: "Tim McCullagh" Sent: Tuesday, January 20, 2004 9:50 PM Subject: Re: fsck > if it's mounted - unmount It is unmounted > and you just do fsck /dev/da1s1f That is what I thought and am doing. The only problem is that when I do that it comes up with the following errors and then seems to freeze. Or perhaps I am not waiting long enough cathy# fsck /dev/da1s1f ** /dev/da1s1f ** Last Mounted on /var ** Phase 1 - Check Blocks and Sizes CANNOT READ: BLK 29163616 UNEXPECTED SOFT UPDATE INCONSISTENCY CONTINUE? [yn] y THE FOLLOWING DISK SECTORS COULD NOT BE READ: 29163616, ** Phase 2 - Check Pathnames MISSING '.' I=1759514 OWNER=1002 MODE=40700 SIZE=512 MTIME=Jan 20 09:58 2004 DIR=? UNEXPECTED SOFT UPDATE INCONSISTENCY FIX? [yn] y MISSING '..' I=1759514 OWNER=1002 MODE=40700 SIZE=512 MTIME=Jan 20 09:58 2004 DIR=/spool/postfix/deferred/C UNEXPECTED SOFT UPDATE INCONSISTENCY FIX? [yn] y Message from syslogd@cathy at Tue Jan 20 22:05:56 2004 ... cathy /kernel: <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< Dump Card State Ends >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Then It freezes or continues to give cathy /kernel: <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< Dump Card State Ends >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> errors Should I just leave it and wait? Regards Tim > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Tim McCullagh" > To: > Sent: Tuesday, January 20, 2004 1:39 PM > Subject: fsck > > > > Hi Fellows > > > > Can someone shed some light on whether it is possible to do a fsck check > > on > > a dirty file system if it is installed (and not mounted) as a second HDD > > on > > a new system install. I have a mail server that crashed this morning and > > now fails to boot even into single user mode. > > > > So I installed a clean install of FreeBSD 4.9 on a spare HDD and have > > tried > > to mount the old drive, but it complains about a "Filesystem is not > > clean - > > run fsck". When I do this it seems to want to "WARNING: R/W mount of > > /var > > denied." /var is already mounted on da0s1f. Is there any way to run > > fsck to clean up the filesystem on /dev/da1s1f so that it can be mounted > > as > > a second HDD in this type of setup? > > > > Are there any other suggestions as to how to clean it up? > > > > Regards > > > > Tim > > > > _______________________________________________ > > freebsd-isp@freebsd.org mailing list > > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-isp > > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-isp-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > > > > > > From owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jan 20 10:30:54 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5B95916A4CE for ; Tue, 20 Jan 2004 10:30:54 -0800 (PST) Received: from complx.LF.net (complx.LF.net [212.9.190.63]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 65E9243D55 for ; Tue, 20 Jan 2004 10:30:51 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from lists@complx.LF.net) Received: from lists by complx.LF.net with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Aj0eC-000Fd6-Py; Tue, 20 Jan 2004 19:30:44 +0100 Date: Tue, 20 Jan 2004 19:30:44 +0100 From: Kurt Jaeger To: Tim McCullagh Message-ID: <20040120183044.GZ987@complx.LF.net> References: <534601c3df4a$0e8ef650$6500a8c0@halenet.com.au> <004401c3df4b$abe1f780$1e64a8c0@spotripoli.local> <535501c3df4c$e49144e0$6500a8c0@halenet.com.au> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <535501c3df4c$e49144e0$6500a8c0@halenet.com.au> cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: fsck X-BeenThere: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: pi@LF.net List-Id: Internet Services Providers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 20 Jan 2004 18:30:54 -0000 Hi! > Message from syslogd@cathy at Tue Jan 20 22:05:56 2004 ... > cathy /kernel: <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< Dump Card State Ends >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > Then It freezes or continues to give > cathy /kernel: <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< Dump Card State Ends >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > errors > > Should I just leave it and wait? Yes, try to wait a while (10 minutes?). I've seen these messages as well, and as of know they seem harmless and do not stop the system. But: Your system may vary... -- MfG/Best regards, Kurt Jaeger 16 years to go ! LF.net GmbH fon +49 711 90074-23 pi@LF.net Ruppmannstr. 27 fax +49 711 90074-33 D-70565 Stuttgart mob +49 171 3101372 From owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jan 20 15:19:17 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AA2B016A4CE for ; Tue, 20 Jan 2004 15:19:17 -0800 (PST) Received: from newmail.halenet.com.au (newmail.halenet.com.au [203.55.33.235]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7C3EE43D53 for ; Tue, 20 Jan 2004 15:19:15 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from timbo@halenet.com.au) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by newmail.halenet.com.au (Postfix) with ESMTP id E242420B1C; Wed, 21 Jan 2004 09:26:51 +1000 (EST) Received: from newmail.halenet.com.au ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (newmail.halenet.com.au [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 17474-06; Wed, 21 Jan 2004 09:26:50 +1000 (EST) Received: from laptopt1 (temp23 [203.55.33.225]) (using TLSv1 with cipher RC4-MD5 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by newmail.halenet.com.au (Postfix) with ESMTP id A265D20AD9; Wed, 21 Jan 2004 09:26:50 +1000 (EST) Message-ID: <664501c3dfaa$f772b4f0$6500a8c0@halenet.com.au> From: "Tim McCullagh" To: References: <534601c3df4a$0e8ef650$6500a8c0@halenet.com.au> <004401c3df4b$abe1f780$1e64a8c0@spotripoli.local> <535501c3df4c$e49144e0$6500a8c0@halenet.com.au> <20040120183044.GZ987@complx.LF.net> Date: Wed, 21 Jan 2004 09:13:07 +1000 Organization: HaleNET MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4927.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4927.1200 X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at halenet.com.au cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: fsck X-BeenThere: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Internet Services Providers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 20 Jan 2004 23:19:17 -0000 Hi Kurt Thanks for the response. I have run the fsck /dev/da1s1f and waited over an hour. When I do a ctrl +t it gets to somewhere between 1440K and 2880K of a 16GB partition and seems to just stop. Is it possible that because the partition was mounted as /var on /dev/da0s1f on the original machine and when fsck reads it it wants to mount it as /var, but is not able to because on the new host machine on which it is mounted as /dev/da1s1f that the new host machine has a /var on /dev/da0s1f. Would this have any affect at all? Regards Tim ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kurt Jaeger" To: "Tim McCullagh" Cc: "Putinas Piliponis" ; Sent: Wednesday, January 21, 2004 4:30 AM Subject: Re: fsck > Hi! > > > Message from syslogd@cathy at Tue Jan 20 22:05:56 2004 ... > > cathy /kernel: <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< Dump Card State Ends >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > Then It freezes or continues to give > > cathy /kernel: <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< Dump Card State Ends >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > errors > > > > Should I just leave it and wait? > > Yes, try to wait a while (10 minutes?). I've seen these messages > as well, and as of know they seem harmless and do not stop the > system. > > But: Your system may vary... > > -- > MfG/Best regards, Kurt Jaeger 16 years to go ! > LF.net GmbH fon +49 711 90074-23 pi@LF.net > Ruppmannstr. 27 fax +49 711 90074-33 > D-70565 Stuttgart mob +49 171 3101372 > From owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jan 20 15:52:04 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 902EB16A4D6 for ; Tue, 20 Jan 2004 15:52:04 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail1.txucom.net (mail1.txucom.net [207.70.175.20]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id CB8F743D66 for ; Tue, 20 Jan 2004 15:51:32 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from bob@buckhorn.net) Received: (qmail 8724 invoked from network); 20 Jan 2004 23:51:57 -0000 Received: from lfkn-adsl-dhcp-net1-197.txucom.net (HELO tardis.buckhorn.net) ([207.70.145.197]) (envelope-sender ) by mail1.txucom.net (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for ; 20 Jan 2004 23:51:57 -0000 Received: from buckhorn.net (localhost.buckhorn.net [127.0.0.1]) by tardis.buckhorn.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8B7941B8F0D; Tue, 20 Jan 2004 17:51:18 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <400DBEF6.2010606@buckhorn.net> Date: Tue, 20 Jan 2004 17:51:18 -0600 From: Bob Martin User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i386; en-US; rv:1.4) Gecko/20030624 Netscape/7.1 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Tim McCullagh References: <534601c3df4a$0e8ef650$6500a8c0@halenet.com.au> <004401c3df4b$abe1f780$1e64a8c0@spotripoli.local> <535501c3df4c$e49144e0$6500a8c0@halenet.com.au> <20040120183044.GZ987@complx.LF.net> <664501c3dfaa$f772b4f0$6500a8c0@halenet.com.au> In-Reply-To: <664501c3dfaa$f772b4f0$6500a8c0@halenet.com.au> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: fsck X-BeenThere: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Internet Services Providers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 20 Jan 2004 23:52:04 -0000 Tim, What gets mounted, and where, is determined by the file /ete/fstab. Unless you have entries in that file for the /dev/da1 disk, it will not be mounted. fsck is just reading a little entry off the disk that says where the slice was last mounted... A truly priceless thing to know if your building a phoenix out of someone else's ashes. I have seen fsck take all night to run. More over, I've seen your soft update errors more often than I would have liked. At least one directory on this slice is horribly corrupted. Unless there are files on there you just can't live without, (e.g. email that's in the spool, etc.), I would just newfs the slice, and start over. If that's not an option, run fsck -y /dev/da1s1f. Wait (all night if needs be) If it gives soft update errors, cold reboot the box (make sure the drives come to a full stop) and repeat the process until the errors go away. Watch the output. If fsck runs a ways, fixes some errors then hangs, kill it and restart it. If it's not making any head way at all, just be really patient. (The -y makes it go a little faster) One foot note to running newfs. While most of the stuff on var can be recreated, you'll loose your ports database. Something to keep in mind. Since you have a backup (you do have a backup don't you?) you can just newfs the file system and restore... I mention this now as it was an event just like this that drove me to doing regular, complete backups. I even back up my home system daily. (There is magic server pixy dust... It's called dump :) ) Bob Martin Tim McCullagh wrote: > Hi Kurt > > Thanks for the response. > > I have run the fsck /dev/da1s1f and waited over an hour. When I do a ctrl > +t it gets to somewhere between 1440K and 2880K of a 16GB partition and > seems to just stop. > > Is it possible that because the partition was mounted as /var on /dev/da0s1f > on the original machine and when fsck reads it it wants to mount it as /var, > but is not able to because on the new host machine on which it is mounted as > /dev/da1s1f that the new host machine has a /var on /dev/da0s1f. Would > this have any affect at all? > > Regards > > Tim > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Kurt Jaeger" > To: "Tim McCullagh" > Cc: "Putinas Piliponis" ; > > Sent: Wednesday, January 21, 2004 4:30 AM > Subject: Re: fsck > > > >>Hi! >> >> >>>Message from syslogd@cathy at Tue Jan 20 22:05:56 2004 ... >>>cathy /kernel: <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< Dump Card State Ends >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> >>>Then It freezes or continues to give >>>cathy /kernel: <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< Dump Card State Ends >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>errors >>> >>>Should I just leave it and wait? >> >>Yes, try to wait a while (10 minutes?). I've seen these messages >>as well, and as of know they seem harmless and do not stop the >>system. >> >>But: Your system may vary... >> >>-- >>MfG/Best regards, Kurt Jaeger 16 years to > > go ! > >>LF.net GmbH fon +49 711 90074-23 pi@LF.net >>Ruppmannstr. 27 fax +49 711 90074-33 >>D-70565 Stuttgart mob +49 171 3101372 >> > > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-isp@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-isp > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-isp-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 21 03:44:25 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EF4EC16A4CE for ; Wed, 21 Jan 2004 03:44:25 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail.telecoms.bg (mail.telecoms.bg [217.79.79.2]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 76CED43D3F for ; Wed, 21 Jan 2004 03:44:23 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from moskov@telecoms.bg) Received: from k.telecoms.bg (k.telecoms.bg [217.79.66.142]) by mail.telecoms.bg (8.12.10/8.12.8) with ESMTP id i0LBiKl2002259 for ; Wed, 21 Jan 2004 13:44:20 +0200 Received: from k (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by k.telecoms.bg (Postfix) with SMTP id 10ECC61A0 for ; Wed, 21 Jan 2004 13:45:09 +0200 (EET) Received: from 217.79.79.166 (SquirrelMail authenticated user moskov) by k with HTTP; Wed, 21 Jan 2004 13:45:09 +0200 (EET) Message-ID: <3446.217.79.79.166.1074685509.squirrel@k> Date: Wed, 21 Jan 2004 13:45:09 +0200 (EET) From: "Georgi Moskov" To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 Importance: Normal Subject: BGP solution ? X-BeenThere: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Internet Services Providers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 21 Jan 2004 11:44:26 -0000 Hi all, I have tha following setup: --- B --- / \ / \ 6802:100 194.141.24.0/24 -- A C ----------- F \ / 6802:200 \ / --- D --- Router F advertises to router C prefixes marked widh community 6802:100 and prefixes marked with 6802:200. Is it possible to configure the routers in such a way, that traffic to/from 194.141.24.0/24 and prefixes marked widh 6802:100 to pass through router B and traffic to/from 6802:200 to pass through router D ? (the ruters use zebra) Respectfully, Georgi Moskov From owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 21 03:45:11 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A88B416A4CE for ; Wed, 21 Jan 2004 03:45:11 -0800 (PST) Received: from cell.sick.ru (cell.sick.ru [217.72.144.68]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D57FC43D5C for ; Wed, 21 Jan 2004 03:45:04 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from glebius@cell.sick.ru) Received: from cell.sick.ru (glebius@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by cell.sick.ru (8.12.9/8.12.8) with ESMTP id i0LBj3AB017964 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Wed, 21 Jan 2004 14:45:03 +0300 (MSK) (envelope-from glebius@cell.sick.ru) Received: (from glebius@localhost) by cell.sick.ru (8.12.9/8.12.6/Submit) id i0LBj2CK017963 for freebsd-isp@freebsd.org; Wed, 21 Jan 2004 14:45:02 +0300 (MSK) Date: Wed, 21 Jan 2004 14:45:02 +0300 From: Gleb Smirnoff To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20040121114502.GC17802@cell.sick.ru> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=koi8-r Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.4i Subject: ng_netflow: testers are welcome X-BeenThere: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Internet Services Providers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 21 Jan 2004 11:45:11 -0000 Dear collegues, in recent time I have written down a netgraph node implementing Cisco's Netflow version 5 export feature on a FreeBSD router. It is currently in alpha state. However I've been succesfully using it for two weeks on a couple of routers. I'd be glad if someone will use it, and I'd be glad for any kind of feedback: ideas, patches and else. Source can be downloaded from http://sourceforge.net/projects/ng-netflow -- Totus tuus, Glebius. GLEBIUS-RIPN GLEB-RIPE From owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 21 03:52:54 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5E5E216A4CE for ; Wed, 21 Jan 2004 03:52:54 -0800 (PST) Received: from cell.sick.ru (cell.sick.ru [217.72.144.68]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ED6D443D1D for ; Wed, 21 Jan 2004 03:52:48 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from glebius@cell.sick.ru) Received: from cell.sick.ru (glebius@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by cell.sick.ru (8.12.9/8.12.8) with ESMTP id i0LBqkAB018048 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Wed, 21 Jan 2004 14:52:47 +0300 (MSK) (envelope-from glebius@cell.sick.ru) Received: (from glebius@localhost) by cell.sick.ru (8.12.9/8.12.6/Submit) id i0LBqkvr018047; Wed, 21 Jan 2004 14:52:46 +0300 (MSK) Date: Wed, 21 Jan 2004 14:52:46 +0300 From: Gleb Smirnoff To: Georgi Moskov Message-ID: <20040121115246.GA17996@cell.sick.ru> References: <3446.217.79.79.166.1074685509.squirrel@k> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=koi8-r Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <3446.217.79.79.166.1074685509.squirrel@k> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.4i cc: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: Re: BGP solution ? X-BeenThere: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Internet Services Providers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 21 Jan 2004 11:52:54 -0000 On Wed, Jan 21, 2004 at 01:45:09PM +0200, Georgi Moskov wrote: G> I have tha following setup: G> G> --- B --- G> / \ G> / \ 6802:100 G> 194.141.24.0/24 -- A C ----------- F G> \ / 6802:200 G> \ / G> --- D --- G> G> Router F advertises to router C prefixes marked widh community 6802:100 G> and prefixes marked with 6802:200. Is it possible to configure the routers G> in such a way, that traffic to/from 194.141.24.0/24 and prefixes marked G> widh 6802:100 to pass through router B and traffic to/from 6802:200 to G> pass through router D ? (the ruters use zebra) To configure incoming traffic to 194.141.24.0/24, you should create route maps on C, like this: match community 6802:(1,2)00 set as path prepend XXXX XXXX and attach this route maps to corresponding neighbor (don't forget "out" keyword). To deal with outgoing traffic, you should create route maps on A, like this: match commnity 6802:(1,2)00 set localpref 110 and attach them to corresponding neighbors, with "in" keyword. -- Totus tuus, Glebius. GLEBIUS-RIPN GLEB-RIPE From owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 21 03:54:20 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4CB6B16A4CE for ; Wed, 21 Jan 2004 03:54:20 -0800 (PST) Received: from figg.securenet.com.au (ns2.isecure.com.au [202.125.4.72]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3B86B43D1F for ; Wed, 21 Jan 2004 03:54:15 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from anwsmh@IPAustralia.Gov.AU) Received: from iron.securenet.com.au (iron.isecure.com.au [202.125.4.94] (may be forged))i0LBrv4D023420; Wed, 21 Jan 2004 22:53:57 +1100 Received: (from uucp@localhost) by iron.securenet.com.au (8.12.6/8.12.6) id i0LBrvIx027152; Wed, 21 Jan 2004 22:53:57 +1100 (EST) Received: from nodnsquery(10.11.3.10) by iron.securenet.com.au via csmap (V6.0) id srcAAAfVa4b1; Wed, 21 Jan 04 22:53:56 +1100 Received: from vmail.aipo.gov.au (localhost [127.0.0.1]) id i0LBrup1031991; Wed, 21 Jan 2004 22:53:56 +1100 Received: from stan.aipo.gov.au (wf-136.aipo.gov.au [192.168.1.136]) by vmail.aipo.gov.au (8.12.6/8.12.6) with ESMTP id i0LBrsZM001858; Wed, 21 Jan 2004 22:53:55 +1100 (EST) (envelope-from anwsmh@IPAustralia.Gov.AU) Received: from stan.aipo.gov.au (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by stan.aipo.gov.au (8.12.9p2/8.12.9) with ESMTP id i0LBrrAn000609; Wed, 21 Jan 2004 22:53:53 +1100 (EST) (envelope-from anwsmh@IPAustralia.Gov.AU) Received: (from anwsmh@localhost) by stan.aipo.gov.au (8.12.9p2/8.12.9/Submit) id i0LBrq0x000608; Wed, 21 Jan 2004 22:53:52 +1100 (EST) (envelope-from anwsmh@IPAustralia.Gov.AU) X-Authentication-Warning: stan.aipo.gov.au: anwsmh set sender to anwsmh@IPAustralia.Gov.AU using -f Date: Wed, 21 Jan 2004 22:53:51 +1100 From: Stanley Hopcroft To: Gleb Smirnoff Message-ID: <20040121225347.F240@IPAustralia.Gov.AU> References: <20040121114502.GC17802@cell.sick.ru> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5.1i In-Reply-To: <20040121114502.GC17802@cell.sick.ru>; from glebius@cell.sick.ru on Wed, Jan 21, 2004 at 02:45:02PM +0300 cc: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: Re: ng_netflow: testers are welcome X-BeenThere: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Internet Services Providers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 21 Jan 2004 11:54:20 -0000 Dear Sir, I am writing to say I think you are going to bring much happiness with this announcement, On Wed, Jan 21, 2004 at 02:45:02PM +0300, Gleb Smirnoff wrote: > Dear collegues, > > in recent time I have written down a netgraph node implementing > Cisco's Netflow version 5 export feature on a FreeBSD router. > The tasty ntop product (http://www.Ntop.ORG) accepts Netflow v5 (and 9, as well as sFlow and nFlow). FreeBSD router + ng-netflow + ntop == router with accounting, > It is currently in alpha state. However I've been succesfully > using it for two weeks on a couple of routers. > > I'd be glad if someone will use it, and I'd be glad for any kind > of feedback: ideas, patches and else. > Forwarding your announcement to the ntop list. > Source can be downloaded from http://sourceforge.net/projects/ng-netflow > > -- > Totus tuus, Glebius. > GLEBIUS-RIPN GLEB-RIPE Thank you, Yours sincerely. -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Stanley Hopcroft ------------------------------------------------------------------------ '...No man is an island, entire of itself; every man is a piece of the continent, a part of the main. If a clod be washed away by the sea, Europe is the less, as well as if a promontory were, as well as if a manor of thy friend's or of thine own were. Any man's death diminishes me, because I am involved in mankind; and therefore never send to know for whom the bell tolls; it tolls for thee...' from Meditation 17, J Donne. From owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 21 12:46:04 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9A84A16A4D0 for ; Wed, 21 Jan 2004 12:46:04 -0800 (PST) Received: from figg.securenet.com.au (ns2.isecure.com.au [202.125.4.72]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A1C7443D66 for ; Wed, 21 Jan 2004 12:44:49 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from anwsmh@IPAustralia.Gov.AU) Received: from iron.securenet.com.au (iron.isecure.com.au [202.125.4.94] (may be forged))i0LKim4D025368 for ; Thu, 22 Jan 2004 07:44:48 +1100 Received: (from uucp@localhost) by iron.securenet.com.au (8.12.6/8.12.6) id i0LKimoL027476 for ; Thu, 22 Jan 2004 07:44:48 +1100 (EST) Received: from nodnsquery(10.11.3.10) by iron.securenet.com.au via csmap (V6.0) id srcAAA22aiQ1; Thu, 22 Jan 04 07:44:47 +1100 Received: from vmail.aipo.gov.au (localhost [127.0.0.1]) id i0LKilfl010447 for ; Thu, 22 Jan 2004 07:44:47 +1100 Received: from stan.aipo.gov.au (wf-140.aipo.gov.au [192.168.1.140]) by vmail.aipo.gov.au (8.12.6/8.12.6) with ESMTP id i0LKikZM005419 for ; Thu, 22 Jan 2004 07:44:46 +1100 (EST) (envelope-from anwsmh@IPAustralia.Gov.AU) Received: from stan.aipo.gov.au (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by stan.aipo.gov.au (8.12.9p2/8.12.9) with ESMTP id i0LKijM9000305 for ; Thu, 22 Jan 2004 07:44:45 +1100 (EST) (envelope-from anwsmh@IPAustralia.Gov.AU) Received: (from anwsmh@localhost) by stan.aipo.gov.au (8.12.9p2/8.12.9/Submit) id i0LKii3n000304 for FreeBSD-ISP@FreeBSD.ORG; Thu, 22 Jan 2004 07:44:44 +1100 (EST) (envelope-from anwsmh@IPAustralia.Gov.AU) X-Authentication-Warning: stan.aipo.gov.au: anwsmh set sender to anwsmh@IPAustralia.Gov.AU using -f Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2004 07:44:43 +1100 From: Stanley Hopcroft To: FreeBSD-ISP@FreeBSD.ORG Message-ID: <20040122074438.B237@IPAustralia.Gov.AU> References: <20040121114502.GC17802@cell.sick.ru> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5.1i In-Reply-To: <20040121114502.GC17802@cell.sick.ru>; from glebius@cell.sick.ru on Wed, Jan 21, 2004 at 02:45:02PM +0300 Subject: Re: ng_netflow: testers are welcome: cannot reply to poster. X-BeenThere: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Internet Services Providers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 21 Jan 2004 20:46:04 -0000 Dear Folks, For those interested in commenting on this project, it may be worth noting that replies should, until Mr Smirnoff announces otherwise, be addressed to the list. The From: address of the announcement rejects replies. Yours sincerely. -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Stanley Hopcroft ------------------------------------------------------------------------ '...No man is an island, entire of itself; every man is a piece of the continent, a part of the main. If a clod be washed away by the sea, Europe is the less, as well as if a promontory were, as well as if a manor of thy friend's or of thine own were. Any man's death diminishes me, because I am involved in mankind; and therefore never send to know for whom the bell tolls; it tolls for thee...' from Meditation 17, J Donne. From owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 21 13:25:34 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 332E216A4CE for ; Wed, 21 Jan 2004 13:25:34 -0800 (PST) Received: from cell.sick.ru (cell.sick.ru [217.72.144.68]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DE8B943D45 for ; Wed, 21 Jan 2004 13:25:31 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from glebius@cell.sick.ru) Received: from cell.sick.ru (glebius@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by cell.sick.ru (8.12.9/8.12.8) with ESMTP id i0LLPTAB020882 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Thu, 22 Jan 2004 00:25:29 +0300 (MSK) (envelope-from glebius@cell.sick.ru) Received: (from glebius@localhost) by cell.sick.ru (8.12.9/8.12.6/Submit) id i0LLPSOs020881; Thu, 22 Jan 2004 00:25:28 +0300 (MSK) Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2004 00:25:28 +0300 From: Gleb Smirnoff To: Stanley Hopcroft Message-ID: <20040121212528.GC20746@cell.sick.ru> References: <20040121114502.GC17802@cell.sick.ru> <20040122074438.B237@IPAustralia.Gov.AU> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=koi8-r Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20040122074438.B237@IPAustralia.Gov.AU> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.4i cc: FreeBSD-ISP@freebsd.org Subject: Re: ng_netflow: testers are welcome: cannot reply to poster. X-BeenThere: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Internet Services Providers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 21 Jan 2004 21:25:34 -0000 On Thu, Jan 22, 2004 at 07:44:43AM +1100, Stanley Hopcroft wrote: S> For those interested in commenting on this project, it may be worth S> noting that replies should, until Mr Smirnoff announces otherwise, be S> addressed to the list. S> S> The From: address of the announcement rejects replies. I'm sorry for my hard antispam filtering, but my mailbox will die without it. In most cases false positivies are caused by lack of reverse DNS records on sender's mail server. -- Totus tuus, Glebius. GLEBIUS-RIPN GLEB-RIPE From owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 21 14:57:14 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CF1F316A4CE for ; Wed, 21 Jan 2004 14:57:14 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail.telecoms.bg (ns.telecoms.bg [217.79.79.2]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5C46043D1F for ; Wed, 21 Jan 2004 14:57:12 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from moskov@telecoms.bg) Received: from k.telecoms.bg (k.telecoms.bg [217.79.66.142]) by mail.telecoms.bg (8.12.10/8.12.8) with ESMTP id i0LMv7l2014374; Thu, 22 Jan 2004 00:57:07 +0200 Received: from k (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by k.telecoms.bg (Postfix) with SMTP id 88957678F; Thu, 22 Jan 2004 00:58:03 +0200 (EET) Received: from 217.79.66.142 (SquirrelMail authenticated user moskov) by k with HTTP; Thu, 22 Jan 2004 00:58:03 +0200 (EET) Message-ID: <52092.217.79.66.142.1074725883.squirrel@k> In-Reply-To: <20040121115246.GA17996@cell.sick.ru> References: <3446.217.79.79.166.1074685509.squirrel@k> <20040121115246.GA17996@cell.sick.ru> Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2004 00:58:03 +0200 (EET) From: "Georgi Moskov" To: "Gleb Smirnoff" User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 Importance: Normal cc: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: Re: BGP solution ? X-BeenThere: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Internet Services Providers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 21 Jan 2004 22:57:14 -0000 > On Wed, Jan 21, 2004 at 01:45:09PM +0200, Georgi Moskov wrote: > G> I have tha following setup: > G> > G> --- B --- > G> / \ > G> / \ 6802:100 > G> 194.141.24.0/24 -- A C ----------- F > G> \ / 6802:200 > G> \ / > G> --- D --- > G> > G> Router F advertises to router C prefixes marked widh community 6802:100 > G> and prefixes marked with 6802:200. Is it possible to configure the > routers > G> in such a way, that traffic to/from 194.141.24.0/24 and prefixes marked > G> widh 6802:100 to pass through router B and traffic to/from 6802:200 to > G> pass through router D ? (the ruters use zebra) > > To configure incoming traffic to 194.141.24.0/24, you should create > route maps on C, like this: > > match community 6802:(1,2)00 > set as path prepend XXXX XXXX > > and attach this route maps to corresponding neighbor (don't forget "out" > keyword). > > To deal with outgoing traffic, you should create route maps on A, like > this: > > match commnity 6802:(1,2)00 > set localpref 110 > > and attach them to corresponding neighbors, with "in" keyword. > > -- > Totus tuus, Glebius. > GLEBIUS-RIPN GLEB-RIPE > > Correct me if I'm wrong but in my understanding router C can have only 1 active path for 194.141.24.0/24 (the best one) and if so, then it will route traffic to it just through one of the interfaces. Respectfully, Georgi Moskov From owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 21 22:48:44 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 24C3816A4CE for ; Wed, 21 Jan 2004 22:48:44 -0800 (PST) Received: from bsdhosting.net (bsdhosting.net [65.39.221.113]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 19D9643D1F for ; Wed, 21 Jan 2004 22:48:43 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jhopper@bsdhosting.net) Received: (qmail 52636 invoked from network); 22 Jan 2004 06:47:23 -0000 Received: from bsdhosting.net (HELO work.gusalmighty.com) (jhopper@bsdhosting.net@65.39.221.113) by bsdhosting.net with SMTP; 22 Jan 2004 06:47:23 -0000 From: Justin Hopper To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <400C0BFF.5070507@pio.dk> References: <400C0BFF.5070507@pio.dk> Content-Type: text/plain Message-Id: <1074753830.1995.9.camel@work.gusalmighty.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Ximian Evolution 1.4.5 Date: Wed, 21 Jan 2004 22:43:51 -0800 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: FreeBSD router on a USB flash drive? X-BeenThere: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Internet Services Providers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2004 06:48:44 -0000 On Mon, 2004-01-19 at 08:55, Christoffer Pio wrote: > Hello all, has anyone experience with booting from, and running a FreeBSD > based router on a USB 2.0 flash drive? I'm really curious what brought you to the situation of needing to boot from a flash drive for a router? =) I picked up a USB 2.0 flash drive (128MB) for transferring files around between workstations and I really like its convenience. I formatted the drive in FreeBSD 5.1 and installed the standard boot loader. It took me a while to find a box with a new enough BIOS to be able to use the flash drive as a boot option, but I finally found one and was able to get to the boot loader. However, 128MB didn't seem to be enough space to do a minimum install so I was not able to install 5.1 on it and boot from it. I didn't have the time to try to see if I could trim down the install further, so this was as far as I got. I assume with a larger flash drive it is completely possible. As to why you would want to do it, I'm still not sure =) -- Justin Hopper UNIX Systems Engineer BSDHosting.net Hosting Division of Digital Oasys Inc. http://www.bsdhosting.net From owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 21 23:36:25 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F41DD16A4CE for ; Wed, 21 Jan 2004 23:36:24 -0800 (PST) Received: from cell.sick.ru (cell.sick.ru [217.72.144.68]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3DB8C43D39 for ; Wed, 21 Jan 2004 23:36:23 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from glebius@cell.sick.ru) Received: from cell.sick.ru (glebius@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by cell.sick.ru (8.12.9/8.12.8) with ESMTP id i0M7aKAB022450 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Thu, 22 Jan 2004 10:36:21 +0300 (MSK) (envelope-from glebius@cell.sick.ru) Received: (from glebius@localhost) by cell.sick.ru (8.12.9/8.12.6/Submit) id i0M7aJPf022449; Thu, 22 Jan 2004 10:36:19 +0300 (MSK) Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2004 10:36:19 +0300 From: Gleb Smirnoff To: Georgi Moskov Message-ID: <20040122073619.GA22400@cell.sick.ru> References: <3446.217.79.79.166.1074685509.squirrel@k> <20040121115246.GA17996@cell.sick.ru> <52092.217.79.66.142.1074725883.squirrel@k> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=koi8-r Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <52092.217.79.66.142.1074725883.squirrel@k> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.4i cc: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: Re: BGP solution ? X-BeenThere: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Internet Services Providers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2004 07:36:25 -0000 On Thu, Jan 22, 2004 at 12:58:03AM +0200, Georgi Moskov wrote: G> > G> --- B --- G> > G> / \ G> > G> / \ 6802:100 G> > G> 194.141.24.0/24 -- A C ----------- F G> > G> \ / 6802:200 G> > G> \ / G> > G> --- D --- G> > G> G> > G> in such a way, that traffic to/from 194.141.24.0/24 and prefixes marked G> > G> widh 6802:100 to pass through router B and traffic to/from 6802:200 to G> > G> pass through router D ? (the ruters use zebra) <==skip==> G> Correct me if I'm wrong but in my understanding router C can have only 1 G> active path for 194.141.24.0/24 (the best one) and if so, then it will G> route traffic to it just through one of the interfaces. You are right. Desired behavior of incoming traffic can be obtained only by means of policy routing. In FreeBSD I see no way to combine "ipfw fwd" feature and zebra. -- Totus tuus, Glebius. GLEBIUS-RIPN GLEB-RIPE From owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 21 23:50:54 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5107916A4CE for ; Wed, 21 Jan 2004 23:50:54 -0800 (PST) Received: from phantom.keystreams.com (phantom.keystreams.com [207.158.28.3]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 3C2A043D41 for ; Wed, 21 Jan 2004 23:50:52 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from volfman@keystreams.com) Received: (qmail 71062 invoked from network); 22 Jan 2004 07:50:51 -0000 Received: from ts46-01-qdr1564.wvlle.ca.charter.com (HELO keystreams.com) (66.189.142.28) by mail.keystreams.com with SMTP; 22 Jan 2004 07:50:51 -0000 Message-ID: <400F814F.2070304@keystreams.com> Date: Wed, 21 Jan 2004 23:52:47 -0800 From: Roman Volf User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.4b) Gecko/20030507 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org References: <400C0BFF.5070507@pio.dk> <1074753830.1995.9.camel@work.gusalmighty.com> In-Reply-To: <1074753830.1995.9.camel@work.gusalmighty.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: FreeBSD router on a USB flash drive? X-BeenThere: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Internet Services Providers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2004 07:50:54 -0000 The fewer moving parts in a router, the better. Flash drives have no moving parts and should have a lower probability of failure. Something you should look into, Christoffer, are pcmcia-to-ide and also CF-to-IDE adapters. You can get a cheaper Compact Flash card, plug it in, and the computer thinks that its a normal IDE HD. They cost about $40 for the adapters plus the price of the flash card. Roman Volf Justin Hopper wrote: >On Mon, 2004-01-19 at 08:55, Christoffer Pio wrote: > > >>Hello all, has anyone experience with booting from, and running a FreeBSD >>based router on a USB 2.0 flash drive? >> >> > >I'm really curious what brought you to the situation of needing to boot >from a flash drive for a router? =) > >I picked up a USB 2.0 flash drive (128MB) for transferring files around >between workstations and I really like its convenience. I formatted the >drive in FreeBSD 5.1 and installed the standard boot loader. It took me >a while to find a box with a new enough BIOS to be able to use the flash >drive as a boot option, but I finally found one and was able to get to >the boot loader. However, 128MB didn't seem to be enough space to do a >minimum install so I was not able to install 5.1 on it and boot from >it. I didn't have the time to try to see if I could trim down the >install further, so this was as far as I got. > >I assume with a larger flash drive it is completely possible. As to why >you would want to do it, I'm still not sure =) > > > -- Roman Volf Keystreams Internet Solutions (619) 572-2062 From owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 21 23:52:47 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 89A1016A4CE for ; Wed, 21 Jan 2004 23:52:47 -0800 (PST) Received: from praetor.linc-it.com (adsl-068-157-070-217.sip.jan.bellsouth.net [68.157.70.217]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 752A943D3F for ; Wed, 21 Jan 2004 23:52:45 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from fullermd@over-yonder.net) Received: from mortis.over-yonder.net (adsl-81-240-202.jan.bellsouth.net [65.81.240.202]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by praetor.linc-it.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E76AC155E0; Thu, 22 Jan 2004 01:52:43 -0600 (CST) Received: by mortis.over-yonder.net (Postfix, from userid 100) id C753020F94; Thu, 22 Jan 2004 01:52:41 -0600 (CST) Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2004 01:52:41 -0600 From: "Matthew D. Fuller" To: Justin Hopper Message-ID: <20040122075241.GZ83922@over-yonder.net> References: <400C0BFF.5070507@pio.dk> <1074753830.1995.9.camel@work.gusalmighty.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <1074753830.1995.9.camel@work.gusalmighty.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i-fullermd.1 X-Editor: vi X-OS: FreeBSD cc: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD router on a USB flash drive? X-BeenThere: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Internet Services Providers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2004 07:52:47 -0000 On Wed, Jan 21, 2004 at 10:43:51PM -0800 I heard the voice of Justin Hopper, and lo! it spake thus: > > It took me a while to find a box with a new enough BIOS to be able > to use the flash drive as a boot option, but I finally found one and > was able to get to the boot loader. This would be the hard part; I've seen relatively few BIOSs that'll boot off USB devices. > However, 128MB didn't seem to be enough space to do a minimum > install so I was not able to install 5.1 on it and boot from it. This part is easy. I build a custom dist (off 4.8, but it could by 4.9 with just a recompile) for Soekris boxes that runs off flash; I use 64 meg flash cards, but it would fit into 16 (just not economical to buy smaller than 64 at the consumer level). And it does everything you'd need out of a router and then some. -- Matthew Fuller (MF4839) | fullermd@over-yonder.net Systems/Network Administrator | http://www.over-yonder.net/~fullermd/ "The only reason I'm burning my candle at both ends, is because I haven't figured out how to light the middle yet" From owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jan 23 07:43:48 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4F1E516A4CE for ; Fri, 23 Jan 2004 07:43:48 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx0.dmpriest.net.uk (mx0.dmpriest.net.uk [62.13.128.30]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 609E643D48 for ; Fri, 23 Jan 2004 07:43:42 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from kpielorz@tdx.co.uk) Received: from raptor (kpielorz.dmpriest.net.uk [62.13.130.13]) by mx0.dmpriest.net.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6/Kp) with ESMTP id i0NFhbh01438 for ; Fri, 23 Jan 2004 15:43:37 GMT Date: Fri, 23 Jan 2004 15:43:44 +0000 From: Karl Pielorz To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Message-ID: <12565093.1074872624@raptor> X-Mailer: Mulberry/3.1.0 (Win32) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Subject: Incrementing ierrs normal on switched network? X-BeenThere: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Internet Services Providers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 23 Jan 2004 15:43:48 -0000 Hi All, We've got a FreeBSD test box in house - that's hooked up to another FreeBSD box via a crossover cable on one port (em0) - and to a switch & small network on the other port (em1). netstat -i -b shows... " Name Mtu Network Address Ipkts Ierrs em0 1500 00:07:e9:59:c1:11 42631375 0 em0 1500 192.168.0.1/30 em0 206 - em1 1500 00:02:b3:e8:ca:bf 5978522 11465 Ibytes Opkts Oerrs Obytes Coll [em0] 1761716617 43032198 0 97470457 0 [em0] 17336 3457943 - 1979378621 - [em1] 4135141601 5545022 0 1570455231 0 " [Wrapped for sanity] The em1 interface is constantly clocking up 'Ierrs' - admittedly they are a very small percentage of the total packets on the interface, but never the less they clock up constantly... Is this likely to be something silly like 'cheap switch' (It's a DLink 10/100 - nothing special). Is it normal to run a small % (i.e. <0.01) of errors? - I found the devtool 'ifinfo' - but this just reports them as 'Input Errors' as well... I'm trying to get hold of a different brand switch etc. to try it with at the moment... Thanks for any input, -Karl From owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jan 23 08:42:12 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 911F016A4CE for ; Fri, 23 Jan 2004 08:42:12 -0800 (PST) Received: from mordrede.visionsix.com (mordrede.visionsix.com [65.202.119.3]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 50C3043D66 for ; Fri, 23 Jan 2004 08:41:56 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from lists@visionsix.com) Received: from vsis169 (unverified [65.202.119.169]) by mordrede.visionsix.com for ; Fri, 23 Jan 2004 10:41:55 -0600 Message-ID: <014201c3e1cf$cd941620$df0a0a0a@visionsix.net> From: "Lewis Watson" To: Date: Fri, 23 Jan 2004 10:41:51 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Subject: NAT and var/log X-BeenThere: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Internet Services Providers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 23 Jan 2004 16:42:12 -0000 Hi there, We recently set up a FreeBsd firewall/ router for a client and /var is getting pretty full. Is there a table or log somewhere in /var that is filling up? I looked in /var/log and there is nothing here that is out of the ordinary. I would appreciate any pointers here. Thanks. Lewis From owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jan 23 09:01:59 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9C1D916A4CE for ; Fri, 23 Jan 2004 09:01:59 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail.trident-uk.co.uk (mail.trident-uk.co.uk [81.3.89.57]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A843C43D5E for ; Fri, 23 Jan 2004 09:01:11 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jamie@tridentmicrosystems.co.uk) Received: from localhost (localhost.pe.trident-uk.co.uk [127.0.0.1]) by mail.trident-uk.co.uk (Postfix) with ESMTP id C5F5C20D5C; Fri, 23 Jan 2004 17:01:03 +0000 (GMT) Received: from m0ng (wrkstn-62.pe.trident-uk.co.uk [192.168.100.62]) by mail.trident-uk.co.uk (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8AAF820D52; Fri, 23 Jan 2004 17:01:02 +0000 (GMT) From: "Jamie Heckford" To: "'Lewis Watson'" Date: Fri, 23 Jan 2004 17:00:58 -0000 Organization: Trident Microsystems Ltd Message-ID: <000201c3e1d2$794a9aa0$3e64a8c0@m0ng> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.2627 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <014201c3e1cf$cd941620$df0a0a0a@visionsix.net> X-Virus-Scanned: by AMaViS perl-11 cc: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: RE: NAT and var/log X-BeenThere: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: jamie@tridentmicrosystems.co.uk List-Id: Internet Services Providers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 23 Jan 2004 17:01:59 -0000 Du(1)? ;) -----Original Message----- From: owner-freebsd-isp@freebsd.org [mailto:owner-freebsd-isp@freebsd.org] On Behalf Of Lewis Watson Sent: 23 January 2004 16:42 To: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: NAT and var/log Hi there, We recently set up a FreeBsd firewall/ router for a client and /var is getting pretty full. Is there a table or log somewhere in /var that is filling up? I looked in /var/log and there is nothing here that is out of the ordinary. I would appreciate any pointers here. Thanks. Lewis _______________________________________________ freebsd-isp@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-isp To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-isp-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jan 23 10:02:15 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D7E1F16A4CF for ; Fri, 23 Jan 2004 10:02:15 -0800 (PST) Received: from kasie.rwsystems.net (ea.70.cf9e.cidr.airmail.net [207.158.112.234]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7AC1F43D6E for ; Fri, 23 Jan 2004 10:00:54 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jwyatt@RWSystems.net) Received: from localhost (jwyatt@localhost) by kasie.rwsystems.net (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id i0NI1VL18899; Fri, 23 Jan 2004 12:01:31 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from jwyatt@RWSystems.net) Date: Fri, 23 Jan 2004 12:01:31 -0600 (CST) From: James Wyatt To: Lewis Watson In-Reply-To: <014201c3e1cf$cd941620$df0a0a0a@visionsix.net> Message-ID: <20040123115110.R18285-100000@kasie.rwsystems.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII cc: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: Re: NAT and var/log X-BeenThere: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Internet Services Providers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 23 Jan 2004 18:02:16 -0000 There are a number of things under /var that can fill it up: /var/log, /var/mail, /var/run, /var/tmp. Common things that fill up are large user mailboxes, folks using vi to edit/view a large file, and log files that are deleted while still open. (Other reasons as well, but these are most.) Try doing a "du -kv /var/" and seeing if the total matches what shows as "used" on a "df -k /var/". If there is a large difference, then someone has likely deleted a file that is still open - usually by syslog. You can restart syslog "kill -hup `cat /var/run/syslog.pid`" and see if that helps. If that doesn't work and you can't find who has the file open, you will likely have to reboot. (And educate an admin or user...) If there is no large difference between what du tells you is used by files it can see and df shows the disk has used, then you can look for large files with something like "find /var/ -type f -size +1000 -print". I would look in /var/mail/ and /var/log/ first... If it comes and goes, then it's likely a user that needs to learn "more" and that vi (some versions) keep temp files unless they use read-only mode like "vi -r ". No doubt others can offer even better advice - this is a great list in terms of real experience... (^_^) Hope this helps - Jy@ On Fri, 23 Jan 2004, Lewis Watson wrote: > Hi there, > We recently set up a FreeBsd firewall/ router for a client and /var is > getting pretty full. Is there a table or log somewhere in /var that is > filling up? I looked in /var/log and there is nothing here that is out of > the ordinary. I would appreciate any pointers here. > Thanks. > Lewis > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-isp@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-isp > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-isp-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jan 23 10:14:10 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 98CE216A4CF for ; Fri, 23 Jan 2004 10:14:10 -0800 (PST) Received: from kasie.rwsystems.net (ea.70.cf9e.cidr.airmail.net [207.158.112.234]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 677AF43D64 for ; Fri, 23 Jan 2004 10:14:04 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jwyatt@RWSystems.net) Received: from localhost (jwyatt@localhost) by kasie.rwsystems.net (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id i0NIHqX19210; Fri, 23 Jan 2004 12:17:52 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from jwyatt@RWSystems.net) Date: Fri, 23 Jan 2004 12:17:51 -0600 (CST) From: James Wyatt To: Lewis Watson In-Reply-To: <20040123115110.R18285-100000@kasie.rwsystems.net> Message-ID: <20040123121409.X18285-100000@kasie.rwsystems.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII cc: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: Re: NAT and var/log X-BeenThere: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Internet Services Providers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 23 Jan 2004 18:14:10 -0000 Sorry to follow-up on my own post, but it's "du -kx", not "-kv". The "x" prevents du from wandering into subordinate filesystems mounted under /var/, if you care to know. It can be very handy to mount /var/log/ in append-only mode so the logfiles can't be edited... Thanks - Jy@ On Fri, 23 Jan 2004, James Wyatt wrote: > There are a number of things under /var that can fill it up: /var/log, > /var/mail, /var/run, /var/tmp. Common things that fill up are large user > mailboxes, folks using vi to edit/view a large file, and log files that > are deleted while still open. (Other reasons as well, but these are most.) > > Try doing a "du -kv /var/" and seeing if the total matches what shows as > "used" on a "df -k /var/". If there is a large difference, then someone > has likely deleted a file that is still open - usually by syslog. You can > restart syslog "kill -hup `cat /var/run/syslog.pid`" and see if that > helps. If that doesn't work and you can't find who has the file open, you > will likely have to reboot. (And educate an admin or user...) > > If there is no large difference between what du tells you is used by files > it can see and df shows the disk has used, then you can look for large > files with something like "find /var/ -type f -size +1000 -print". I would > look in /var/mail/ and /var/log/ first... > > If it comes and goes, then it's likely a user that needs to learn "more" > and that vi (some versions) keep temp files unless they use read-only mode > like "vi -r ". No doubt others can offer even better advice - this > is a great list in terms of real experience... (^_^) > > Hope this helps - Jy@ > > On Fri, 23 Jan 2004, Lewis Watson wrote: > > Hi there, > > We recently set up a FreeBsd firewall/ router for a client and /var is > > getting pretty full. Is there a table or log somewhere in /var that is > > filling up? I looked in /var/log and there is nothing here that is out of > > the ordinary. I would appreciate any pointers here. > > Thanks. > > Lewis > > > > _______________________________________________ > > freebsd-isp@freebsd.org mailing list > > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-isp > > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-isp-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jan 23 11:26:26 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8E56A16A4CF for ; Fri, 23 Jan 2004 11:26:26 -0800 (PST) Received: from psknet.com (kennedy.psknet.com [63.171.251.9]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 95D5843D5A for ; Fri, 23 Jan 2004 11:26:25 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from troy@psknet.com) Received: from dilbert.psknet.com ([63.171.251.35] helo=dilbert) by psknet.com with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 1Ak6wd-000O6a-F8; Fri, 23 Jan 2004 14:26:19 -0500 From: "Troy Settle" To: "'FreeBSD ISP List'" Date: Fri, 23 Jan 2004 14:26:19 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook, Build 11.0.5329 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Thread-Index: AcPh5sbsya8g8OhOSuGtluD5wIikjg== Message-Id: Subject: VOIP/Asterisk/Zaptel hardware for *BSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Internet Services Providers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 23 Jan 2004 19:26:26 -0000 All, I'm posting this here because I think a number of you may be interested in seeing a strong open source VOIP solution for FreeBSD. There's currently $1200 available as a bounty for someone to get Zaptel drivers written/ported to FreeBSD and get Asterisk up and running. For details on this bounty, please see: http://bugs.digium.com/bug_view_page.php?bug_id=0000847 I think this would be a great win for the FreeBSD community. If anyone on this list knows someone who might be interested in taking this bounty, please forward this along. If you wish to up the bounty, please feel free to post it. -- Troy Settle Pulaski Networks http://www.psknet.com 540.994.4254 ~ 866.477.5638 Pulaski Chamber 2002 Small Business Of The Year From owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jan 23 11:30:38 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2D7BA16A4CE for ; Fri, 23 Jan 2004 11:30:38 -0800 (PST) Received: from otter3.centtech.com (moat3.centtech.com [207.200.51.50]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A602B43DA0 for ; Fri, 23 Jan 2004 11:29:43 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from anderson@centtech.com) Received: from centtech.com (neutrino.centtech.com [10.177.171.220]) by otter3.centtech.com (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id i0NJTgE8049880; Fri, 23 Jan 2004 13:29:42 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from anderson@centtech.com) Message-ID: <4011760B.6020907@centtech.com> Date: Fri, 23 Jan 2004 13:29:15 -0600 From: Eric Anderson User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.5) Gecko/20040121 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Troy Settle References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: 'FreeBSD ISP List' Subject: Re: VOIP/Asterisk/Zaptel hardware for *BSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Internet Services Providers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 23 Jan 2004 19:30:38 -0000 Troy Settle wrote: >All, > >I'm posting this here because I think a number of you may be interested in >seeing a strong open source VOIP solution for FreeBSD. > >There's currently $1200 available as a bounty for someone to get Zaptel >drivers written/ported to FreeBSD and get Asterisk up and running. > >For details on this bounty, please see: > > http://bugs.digium.com/bug_view_page.php?bug_id=0000847 > >I think this would be a great win for the FreeBSD community. If anyone on >this list knows someone who might be interested in taking this bounty, >please forward this along. If you wish to up the bounty, please feel free >to post it. > > You might have better luck on -hackers. Eric -- ------------------------------------------------------------------ Eric Anderson Sr. Systems Administrator Centaur Technology Today is the tomorrow you worried about yesterday. ------------------------------------------------------------------ From owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jan 23 11:54:43 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A1BB216A4CE for ; Fri, 23 Jan 2004 11:54:43 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx0.dmpriest.net.uk (mx0.dmpriest.net.uk [62.13.128.30]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BD16743D7C for ; Fri, 23 Jan 2004 11:53:39 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from kpielorz@tdx.co.uk) Received: from rainbow (adsl-blk-62-13-130-225.dmpriest.net.uk [62.13.130.232] (may be forged)) by mx0.dmpriest.net.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6/Kp) with ESMTP id i0NJpHw18358; Fri, 23 Jan 2004 19:51:18 GMT Date: Fri, 23 Jan 2004 19:51:20 +0000 From: Karl Pielorz To: Alex Soares de Moura Message-ID: <1096250.1074887480@rainbow> In-Reply-To: <019801c3e1e0$3cf292c0$0d3f11c8@ncrj.rnp.br> References: <12565093.1074872624@raptor> <019801c3e1e0$3cf292c0$0d3f11c8@ncrj.rnp.br> X-Mailer: Mulberry/3.1.0 (Win32) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline cc: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Incrementing ierrs normal on switched network? X-BeenThere: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Internet Services Providers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 23 Jan 2004 19:54:43 -0000 --On 23 January 2004 16:39 -0200 Alex Soares de Moura wrote: > > Any {half/full} duplex configuration difference between the em interface > and the switch port? > Hmmm, good point - as far as I'm aware everything connected to the switch has both the 100Mbit & FDX lights on, but I'll check... Having been the victim of that kind of thing before - it usually really screws up (i.e. lots of errors) - if it is that, this'll be the first time it's actually left us with a 'usable' connection and not been in-sync w/the switch... -Kp From owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jan 23 14:22:41 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 558EB16A4CE for ; Fri, 23 Jan 2004 14:22:41 -0800 (PST) Received: from hexagon.stack.nl (hexagon.stack.nl [131.155.140.144]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C065043D39 for ; Fri, 23 Jan 2004 14:22:39 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from dean@dragon.stack.nl) Received: from dragon.stack.nl (dragon.stack.nl [IPv6:2001:610:1108:5011:207:e9ff:fe09:230]) by hexagon.stack.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 40119EAE#C9AE551D5; Fri, 23 Jan 2004 23:22:38 +0100 (CET) Received: by dragon.stack.nl (Postfix, from userid 1600) id AC7E95F1B8; Fri, 23 Jan 2004 23:22:38 +0100 (CET) Date: Fri, 23 Jan 2004 23:22:38 +0100 From: Dean Strik To: Karl Pielorz Message-ID: <20040123222238.GE26724@dragon.stack.nl> References: <12565093.1074872624@raptor> <019801c3e1e0$3cf292c0$0d3f11c8@ncrj.rnp.br> <1096250.1074887480@rainbow> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <1096250.1074887480@rainbow> X-Editor: VIM Rulez! http://www.vim.org/ X-MUD: Outerspace - telnet://mud.stack.nl:3333 X-Really: Yes User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.5.1i cc: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org cc: Alex Soares de Moura Subject: Re: Incrementing ierrs normal on switched network? X-BeenThere: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Internet Services Providers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 23 Jan 2004 22:22:41 -0000 Karl Pielorz wrote: > Hmmm, good point - as far as I'm aware everything connected to the switch > has both the 100Mbit & FDX lights on, but I'll check... Than it's probably ok. > Having been the victim of that kind of thing before - it usually really > screws up (i.e. lots of errors) - if it is that, this'll be the first time > it's actually left us with a 'usable' connection and not been in-sync w/the > switch... Have you tried replacing the cable? -- Dean C. Strik Eindhoven University of Technology dean@stack.nl | dean@ipnet6.org | http://www.ipnet6.org/ "This isn't right. This isn't even wrong." -- Wolfgang Pauli From owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jan 24 11:00:13 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DBE1916A4CE for ; Sat, 24 Jan 2004 11:00:13 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx2.dobleJ.net (243.Red-213-97-10.pooles.rima-tde.net [213.97.10.243]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 237AD43D54 for ; Sat, 24 Jan 2004 11:00:11 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from juanjo.listas@dobleJ.net) X-Server: Reenviado vía mx2.dobleJ.net From: Juan Jose Sanchez Mesa To: X-Mailer: PocoMail 3.03 (1740) - Licensed Version Date: Sat, 24 Jan 2004 20:00:02 +0100 Message-ID: <20041242002.831817@juanjo> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: BGP4 using FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Internet Services Providers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 24 Jan 2004 19:00:14 -0000 Hi! (sorry for my bad english) Currently we have only one carrier to connect to the Internet. Now, we are= thinking in add one more carrier, but doing BGP for redundancy and= reliability. We are looking to implement it via software using FreeBSD to replace the= expensive Cisco router needed to do BGP. Searching Google we found software from FutureSoft and from Merit Research= (BSD license) that do BGP routing, but we want to know if this really can= compete with a complete Cisco (or other manufacturer) hardware solution. Any experiences about this ? Thanks to all. From owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jan 24 13:12:25 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9297816A4CE for ; Sat, 24 Jan 2004 13:12:25 -0800 (PST) Received: from cell.sick.ru (cell.sick.ru [217.72.144.68]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EAF1F43D31 for ; Sat, 24 Jan 2004 13:12:23 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from glebius@cell.sick.ru) Received: from cell.sick.ru (glebius@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by cell.sick.ru (8.12.9/8.12.8) with ESMTP id i0OLCGAB036005 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Sun, 25 Jan 2004 00:12:17 +0300 (MSK) (envelope-from glebius@cell.sick.ru) Received: (from glebius@localhost) by cell.sick.ru (8.12.9/8.12.6/Submit) id i0OLCGt3036004; Sun, 25 Jan 2004 00:12:16 +0300 (MSK) Date: Sun, 25 Jan 2004 00:12:15 +0300 From: Gleb Smirnoff To: Juan Jose Sanchez Mesa Message-ID: <20040124211215.GA35944@cell.sick.ru> References: <20041242002.831817@juanjo> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=koi8-r Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20041242002.831817@juanjo> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.4i cc: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: Re: BGP4 using FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Internet Services Providers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 24 Jan 2004 21:12:25 -0000 On Sat, Jan 24, 2004 at 08:00:02PM +0100, Juan Jose Sanchez Mesa wrote: J> Currently we have only one carrier to connect to the Internet. Now, we are thinking in add one more carrier, but doing BGP for redundancy and reliability. J> J> We are looking to implement it via software using FreeBSD to replace the expensive Cisco router needed to do BGP. Look at /usr/ports/net/zebra or /usr/ports/net/zebra-devel. -- Totus tuus, Glebius. GLEBIUS-RIPN GLEB-RIPE From owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jan 24 13:14:30 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AC6C716A4CE for ; Sat, 24 Jan 2004 13:14:30 -0800 (PST) Received: from y0d4.mr0vka.eu.org (y0d4.mr0vka.eu.org [195.116.69.198]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BCAF743D45 for ; Sat, 24 Jan 2004 13:14:27 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from lbromirski@mr0vka.eu.org) Received: from mr0vka.eu.org (cn132.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl [80.54.210.132]) by y0d4.mr0vka.eu.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 86006ED2D for ; Sat, 24 Jan 2004 22:14:54 +0000 (GMT) Message-ID: <4012E087.4080504@mr0vka.eu.org> Date: Sat, 24 Jan 2004 22:15:51 +0100 From: =?ISO-8859-2?Q?=A3ukasz_Bromirski?= User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 0.5a (20031219) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-2; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Subject: Re: BGP4 using FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Internet Services Providers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 24 Jan 2004 21:14:30 -0000 Juan Jose Sanchez Mesa wrote: > We are looking to implement it via software using FreeBSD to > replace the expensive Cisco router needed to do BGP. > Searching Google we found software from FutureSoft and from Merit > Research (BSD license) that do BGP routing, but we want to know if > this really can compete with a complete Cisco (or other manufacturer) > hardware solution. Why you don't just lookup ports directory and install quagga? It's working solution to do also BGPv4, and it works in the real. Every decent PC (PIII-800) will do full BGPv4 routing with 128MB of RAM if it doesn't do anything else. Hardware is relatively cheap, so You can go for PIV or Athlon XP with 512MB RAM, and that machine will work flawlessly with multiple full BGP feeds. I have few PIII-800 with 512MB RAM and 3COM/Intel NICs, that are "benchmarking platform" for various Cisco, 3COM and Allied Telesyn routers. They're doing it almost idle, handling 160k prefixes. Moreover, they often better handle things, that would kill router. -- Łukasz Bromirski lbromirski:mr0vka.eu.org From owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jan 24 13:26:13 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1175816A4CE for ; Sat, 24 Jan 2004 13:26:13 -0800 (PST) Received: from phantom.keystreams.com (phantom.keystreams.com [207.158.28.3]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id E55AD43D1F for ; Sat, 24 Jan 2004 13:26:11 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from volfman@keystreams.com) Received: (qmail 83463 invoked from network); 24 Jan 2004 21:26:11 -0000 Received: from ts46-01-qdr1564.wvlle.ca.charter.com (HELO keystreams.com) (66.189.142.28) by mail.keystreams.com with SMTP; 24 Jan 2004 21:26:11 -0000 Message-ID: <4012E2F2.2000108@keystreams.com> Date: Sat, 24 Jan 2004 13:26:10 -0800 From: Roman Volf User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.6) Gecko/20040113 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org References: <4012E087.4080504@mr0vka.eu.org> In-Reply-To: <4012E087.4080504@mr0vka.eu.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-2; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Subject: Re: BGP4 using FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Internet Services Providers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 24 Jan 2004 21:26:13 -0000 When building your router be sure not to use hard drives, but get an IDE-to-CF adapter and use CompactFlash cards. Less moving parts = better when you're talking about a router. Roman Łukasz Bromirski wrote: > Juan Jose Sanchez Mesa wrote: > > > We are looking to implement it via software using FreeBSD to > > replace the expensive Cisco router needed to do BGP. > > > Searching Google we found software from FutureSoft and from Merit > > Research (BSD license) that do BGP routing, but we want to know if > > this really can compete with a complete Cisco (or other manufacturer) > > hardware solution. > > Why you don't just lookup ports directory and install quagga? It's > working solution to do also BGPv4, and it works in the real. Every > decent PC (PIII-800) will do full BGPv4 routing with 128MB of RAM if it > doesn't do anything else. Hardware is relatively cheap, so You > can go for PIV or Athlon XP with 512MB RAM, and that machine will > work flawlessly with multiple full BGP feeds. > > I have few PIII-800 with 512MB RAM and 3COM/Intel NICs, that are > "benchmarking platform" for various Cisco, 3COM and Allied Telesyn > routers. They're doing it almost idle, handling 160k prefixes. > Moreover, they often better handle things, that would kill router. > From owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jan 24 13:28:30 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3E65C16A500 for ; Sat, 24 Jan 2004 13:28:30 -0800 (PST) Received: from cell.sick.ru (cell.sick.ru [217.72.144.68]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A276843D31 for ; Sat, 24 Jan 2004 13:28:28 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from glebius@cell.sick.ru) Received: from cell.sick.ru (glebius@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by cell.sick.ru (8.12.9/8.12.8) with ESMTP id i0OLSQAB036198 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Sun, 25 Jan 2004 00:28:27 +0300 (MSK) (envelope-from glebius@cell.sick.ru) Received: (from glebius@localhost) by cell.sick.ru (8.12.9/8.12.6/Submit) id i0OLSPdV036197; Sun, 25 Jan 2004 00:28:25 +0300 (MSK) Date: Sun, 25 Jan 2004 00:28:25 +0300 From: Gleb Smirnoff To: Roman Volf Message-ID: <20040124212825.GD36069@cell.sick.ru> References: <4012E087.4080504@mr0vka.eu.org> <4012E2F2.2000108@keystreams.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=koi8-r Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <4012E2F2.2000108@keystreams.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.4i cc: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: Re: BGP4 using FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Internet Services Providers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 24 Jan 2004 21:28:30 -0000 On Sat, Jan 24, 2004 at 01:26:10PM -0800, Roman Volf wrote: R> When building your router be sure not to use hard drives, but get an R> IDE-to-CF adapter and use CompactFlash cards. Less moving parts = better R> when you're talking about a router. Since we are already offtopicing, :) can you give links to some devices that are working under FreeBSD and proved to be stable? -- Totus tuus, Glebius. GLEBIUS-RIPN GLEB-RIPE From owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jan 24 13:50:21 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DC23916A4CE for ; Sat, 24 Jan 2004 13:50:21 -0800 (PST) Received: from complx.LF.net (complx.LF.net [212.9.190.63]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0E75643D39 for ; Sat, 24 Jan 2004 13:50:21 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from lists@complx.LF.net) Received: from lists by complx.LF.net with local (Exim 4.14) id 1AkVfX-0004YV-Q6 for freebsd-isp@freebsd.org; Sat, 24 Jan 2004 22:50:19 +0100 Date: Sat, 24 Jan 2004 22:50:19 +0100 From: Kurt Jaeger To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20040124215019.GD987@complx.LF.net> References: <4012E087.4080504@mr0vka.eu.org> <4012E2F2.2000108@keystreams.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <4012E2F2.2000108@keystreams.com> Subject: Re: BGP4 using FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Internet Services Providers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 24 Jan 2004 21:50:22 -0000 Hi! > When building your router be sure not to use hard drives, but get an > IDE-to-CF adapter and use CompactFlash cards. Less moving parts = better > when you're talking about a router. We have and had SCSI disks in our freebsd based core routers (core.LF.net, core3.LF.net, core.oberon.net) since 1996. Disks were never the relevant topic. Basically, those systems just worked. Yes, they need a little hand-holding, but not because of the disks. -- MfG/Best regards, Kurt Jaeger 16 years to go ! LF.net GmbH fon +49 711 90074-23 pi@LF.net Ruppmannstr. 27 fax +49 711 90074-33 D-70565 Stuttgart mob +49 171 3101372 From owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jan 24 18:25:44 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 976A116A4CE for ; Sat, 24 Jan 2004 18:25:44 -0800 (PST) Received: from phantom.keystreams.com (phantom.keystreams.com [207.158.28.3]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 7566543D1F for ; Sat, 24 Jan 2004 18:25:43 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from volfman@keystreams.com) Received: (qmail 1741 invoked from network); 25 Jan 2004 02:25:43 -0000 Received: from ts46-01-qdr1564.wvlle.ca.charter.com (HELO keystreams.com) (66.189.142.28) by mail.keystreams.com with SMTP; 25 Jan 2004 02:25:43 -0000 Message-ID: <40132999.3020906@keystreams.com> Date: Sat, 24 Jan 2004 18:27:37 -0800 From: Roman Volf User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.4b) Gecko/20030507 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: glebius@cell.sick.ru References: <4012E087.4080504@mr0vka.eu.org> <4012E2F2.2000108@keystreams.com> <20040124215019.GD987@complx.LF.net> In-Reply-To: <20040124215019.GD987@complx.LF.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: Re: BGP4 using FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Internet Services Providers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 25 Jan 2004 02:25:44 -0000 Kurt Jaeger wrote: >Hi! > > > >>When building your router be sure not to use hard drives, but get an >>IDE-to-CF adapter and use CompactFlash cards. Less moving parts = better >>when you're talking about a router. >> >> > >We have and had SCSI disks in our freebsd based core routers >(core.LF.net, core3.LF.net, core.oberon.net) since 1996. > >Disks were never the relevant topic. Basically, those systems >just worked. Yes, they need a little hand-holding, but not because >of the disks. > > > Well that may be, but why risk having a hard drive go out? Flash memory most definatley outlasts traditional hard drives. And if its just doing routing, a 256 MB flash card is more than enough to do everything you need. As for the adapters, you don't need any drivers or anything. Here is one company that makes them: http://www.acscontrol.com/Index_ACS.asp?Page=/Pages/Products/CompactFlash/IDE_To_CF_Adapter.htm FreeBSD will just see the flash card as an IDE drive. I haven't used these myself though, so I can't vouch for their stability. Search around on google for people that use them in production. -- Roman Volf Keystreams Internet Solutions (619) 572-2062