From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jul 25 00:28:09 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E743116A4CE for ; Sun, 25 Jul 2004 00:28:09 +0000 (GMT) Received: from phoenix.gargantuan.com (rrcs-se-24-73-171-238.biz.rr.com [24.73.171.238]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 89B4C43D2D for ; Sun, 25 Jul 2004 00:28:09 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from freebsd-mobile@gargantuan.com) Received: from localhost (localhost.gargantuan.com [127.0.0.1]) by spamassassin-injector (Postfix) with SMTP id 87049668 for ; Sat, 24 Jul 2004 20:28:07 -0400 (EDT) Received: by phoenix.gargantuan.com (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 8CCDC400; Sat, 24 Jul 2004 20:27:30 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sat, 24 Jul 2004 20:27:30 -0400 From: "Michael W. Oliver" To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20040725002730.GA69069@gargantuan.com> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="pWyiEgJYm5f9v55/" Content-Disposition: inline X-WWW-Site: http://michael.gargantuan.com X-PGP-Public-Key: $X-WWW-Site/gnupg/pubkey.asc X-PGP-Fingerprint: 2694 0179 AE3F BFAE 0916 0BF5 B16B FBAB C5FA A3C9 X-Home-Phone: +1-863-816-8091 X-Mobile-Phone: +1-863-738-2334 X-Home-Address0: 8008 Apache Lane X-Home-Address1: Lakeland, FL X-Home-Address2: 33810-2172 X-Home-Address3: United States of America X-Good-Question-Guide: http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html X-Netiquette-Guidelines: http://www.ietf.org/rfc/rfc1855.txt User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.6i X-Spam-DCC: : X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on phoenix.gargantuan.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-1.6 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_00,NO_DNS_FOR_FROM autolearn=no version=2.63 Subject: new laptop suggestions - not the usual stuff X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 25 Jul 2004 00:28:10 -0000 --pWyiEgJYm5f9v55/ Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Ok folks, I know that this comes up from time to time, and I know very well the FreeBSD laptop compatibility list (which rocks!), but I think this case is different, and here's why. I am looking for a new laptop that has the following features: 1) pointing stick in keyboard *THIS IS A MUST* 2) AMD64 proc 3) better-than XGA display ((W)SXGA or (W)UXGA) 4) integrated and supported bluetooth 5) integrated and supported 802.11 a/b/g 6) integrated and supported 10/100(/1000) wired Ethernet 7) CDRW (not necessary, but nice) So far, I have been stuck on the HP nc8000, and it meets every criteria except #2 (not sure about #4). I _really_ want #2, but would settle for the nc8000 with Pentium-M @ 1.7GHz if there is no other alternative. Oh yeah, and I will be running -CURRENT on it. Suggestions? Thanks all. --=20 Mike perl -e 'print unpack("u","88V]N=3D&%C=3D\"!I;F9O(&EN(&AE861E Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 867D816A4CE for ; Sun, 25 Jul 2004 01:21:17 +0000 (GMT) Received: from ozlabs.org (ozlabs.org [203.10.76.45]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A840C43D1F for ; Sun, 25 Jul 2004 01:21:16 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from grog@lemis.com) Received: from blackwater.lemis.com (blackwater.lemis.com [192.109.197.80]) by ozlabs.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9B5092BD67 for ; Sun, 25 Jul 2004 11:21:11 +1000 (EST) Received: by blackwater.lemis.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 8572D511FA; Sun, 25 Jul 2004 10:51:09 +0930 (CST) Date: Sun, 25 Jul 2004 10:51:09 +0930 From: Greg 'groggy' Lehey To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20040725012109.GG78419@wantadilla.lemis.com> References: <20040725002730.GA69069@gargantuan.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="2eauhx3HRLXw1WRo" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20040725002730.GA69069@gargantuan.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i Organization: The FreeBSD Project Phone: +61-8-8388-8286 Fax: +61-8-8388-8725 Mobile: +61-418-838-708 WWW-Home-Page: http://www.FreeBSD.org/ X-PGP-Fingerprint: 9A1B 8202 BCCE B846 F92F 09AC 22E6 F290 507A 4223 Subject: Re: new laptop suggestions - not the usual stuff X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 25 Jul 2004 01:21:17 -0000 --2eauhx3HRLXw1WRo Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline On Saturday, 24 July 2004 at 20:27:30 -0400, Michael W. Oliver wrote: > Ok folks, I know that this comes up from time to time, and I know very > well the FreeBSD laptop compatibility list (which rocks!), but I think > this case is different, and here's why. > > I am looking for a new laptop that has the following features: > > 1) pointing stick in keyboard *THIS IS A MUST* Well, I suppose there's no accounting for taste... > 2) AMD64 proc > 3) better-than XGA display ((W)SXGA or (W)UXGA) I have no idea what this means, but I suppose you mean > 1024x768. > 4) integrated and supported bluetooth > 5) integrated and supported 802.11 a/b/g > 6) integrated and supported 10/100(/1000) wired Ethernet > 7) CDRW (not necessary, but nice) > > So far, I have been stuck on the HP nc8000, and it meets every > criteria except #2 (not sure about #4). I _really_ want #2, but > would settle for the nc8000 with Pentium-M @ 1.7GHz if there is no > other alternative. I suspect you'll have difficulty getting both AMD 64 and high resolution. I have a Dell Inspiron 9100 which also has all these features except for 2. It has display resolutions of up to 1920x1440. Bluetooth and wireless. I haven't got the wireless working, but I've been told that it works with Project Evil, and I suppose the Bluetooth would too; I have no application for that. Greg -- Note: I discard all HTML mail unseen. Finger grog@FreeBSD.org for PGP public key. See complete headers for address and phone numbers. --2eauhx3HRLXw1WRo Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.0 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFBAwsFIubykFB6QiMRAjLtAJ9Y4ub4qVwgPKwJh8oNfaOhgNAyRACfUibJ brMZ4rBdyzm1O3AOh4lW0sM= =sgrh -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --2eauhx3HRLXw1WRo-- From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jul 25 02:12:03 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AC2E616A4CE; Sun, 25 Jul 2004 02:12:03 +0000 (GMT) Received: from otter3.centtech.com (moat3.centtech.com [207.200.51.50]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3AF2043D45; Sun, 25 Jul 2004 02:12:03 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from anderson@centtech.com) Received: from [192.168.42.25] ([192.168.42.25]) by otter3.centtech.com (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id i6P2C2Cw082243; Sat, 24 Jul 2004 21:12:02 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from anderson@centtech.com) Message-ID: <410316E1.7020808@centtech.com> Date: Sat, 24 Jul 2004 21:11:45 -0500 From: Eric Anderson User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 0.7.2 (X11/20040720) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Greg 'groggy' Lehey" References: <20040725002730.GA69069@gargantuan.com> <20040725012109.GG78419@wantadilla.lemis.com> In-Reply-To: <20040725012109.GG78419@wantadilla.lemis.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Subject: Re: new laptop suggestions - not the usual stuff X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 25 Jul 2004 02:12:03 -0000 Greg 'groggy' Lehey wrote: [..snip..] >I suspect you'll have difficulty getting both AMD 64 and high >resolution. I have a Dell Inspiron 9100 which also has all these >features except for 2. It has display resolutions of up to 1920x1440. >Bluetooth and wireless. I haven't got the wireless working, but I've >been told that it works with Project Evil, and I suppose the Bluetooth >would too; I have no application for that. > Are you saying your laptop's LCD does 1920x1440, or the video out does? Eric -- ------------------------------------------------------------------ Eric Anderson Sr. Systems Administrator Centaur Technology Talk sense to a fool and he calls you foolish. ------------------------------------------------------------------ From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jul 25 02:19:18 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 06B4F16A4CE for ; Sun, 25 Jul 2004 02:19:18 +0000 (GMT) Received: from ozlabs.org (ozlabs.org [203.10.76.45]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 88CB743D3F for ; Sun, 25 Jul 2004 02:19:17 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from grog@lemis.com) Received: from blackwater.lemis.com (blackwater.lemis.com [192.109.197.80]) by ozlabs.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6D57A2BD67 for ; Sun, 25 Jul 2004 12:19:15 +1000 (EST) Received: by blackwater.lemis.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A12AD511FA; Sun, 25 Jul 2004 11:49:13 +0930 (CST) Date: Sun, 25 Jul 2004 11:49:13 +0930 From: Greg 'groggy' Lehey To: Eric Anderson Message-ID: <20040725021913.GJ78419@wantadilla.lemis.com> References: <20040725002730.GA69069@gargantuan.com> <20040725012109.GG78419@wantadilla.lemis.com> <410316E1.7020808@centtech.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="H6o9R95t2FPeZmf3" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <410316E1.7020808@centtech.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i Organization: The FreeBSD Project Phone: +61-8-8388-8286 Fax: +61-8-8388-8725 Mobile: +61-418-838-708 WWW-Home-Page: http://www.FreeBSD.org/ X-PGP-Fingerprint: 9A1B 8202 BCCE B846 F92F 09AC 22E6 F290 507A 4223 cc: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Subject: Re: new laptop suggestions - not the usual stuff X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 25 Jul 2004 02:19:18 -0000 --H6o9R95t2FPeZmf3 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline On Saturday, 24 July 2004 at 21:11:45 -0500, Eric Anderson wrote: > Greg 'groggy' Lehey wrote: > [..snip..] > >> I suspect you'll have difficulty getting both AMD 64 and high >> resolution. I have a Dell Inspiron 9100 which also has all these >> features except for 2. It has display resolutions of up to 1920x1440. >> Bluetooth and wireless. I haven't got the wireless working, but I've >> been told that it works with Project Evil, and I suppose the Bluetooth >> would too; I have no application for that. > > Are you saying your laptop's LCD does 1920x1440, or the video out > does? Neither :-) The Inspiron 9100 has an optional 1920x1440 LCD screen. Mine was bought for me by the company, unfortunately, and only has 1680x1050. All models can handle video out of 2048x1536. Greg -- Note: I discard all HTML mail unseen. Finger grog@FreeBSD.org for PGP public key. See complete headers for address and phone numbers. --H6o9R95t2FPeZmf3 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.0 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFBAxihIubykFB6QiMRAtRbAJ4/vHR7os/nG7OZ+5A3CFYvoMNbNwCgoE+D uGxhXCvlXtWJcO3oHn2m1fQ= =LDXa -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --H6o9R95t2FPeZmf3-- From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jul 25 05:43:31 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E655F16A4CE for ; Sun, 25 Jul 2004 05:43:31 +0000 (GMT) Received: from grande.el.net (NS2.EL.NET [68.165.89.67]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id EBC9343D5A for ; Sun, 25 Jul 2004 05:43:30 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from kalin@el.net) Received: (qmail 21994 invoked from network); 25 Jul 2004 05:49:07 -0000 Received: from localhost (HELO el.net) (127.0.0.1) by grande.el.net with SMTP; 25 Jul 2004 05:49:07 -0000 Received: from 151.204.154.241 (SquirrelMail authenticated user kalin) by el.net with HTTP; Sun, 25 Jul 2004 01:49:07 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <49409.151.204.154.241.1090734547.squirrel@el.net> Date: Sun, 25 Jul 2004 01:49:07 -0400 (EDT) From: "kalin mintchev" To: madwifi-users@lists.sourceforge.net User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 Importance: Normal References: <50138.151.204.154.241.1090701435.squirrel@el.net> <49251.151.204.154.241.1090712879.squirrel@el.net> In-Reply-To: <49251.151.204.154.241.1090712879.squirrel@el.net> cc: randy@psg.com cc: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Subject: Re: ath card problem X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 25 Jul 2004 05:43:32 -0000 now this is what i do: both cards come up; i turn xl0 down - if i don't and try to associate ath0 i get: ifconfig: ioctl (SIOCAIFADDR): File exists ; with the xl0 down i do: ifconfig ath0 inet 192.168.1.21 netmask 255.255.255.0 ssid apname; ping to 192.168.1.1 works; ping to anywhere outside does NOT work i get: ping: sendto: Network is down !?!? i don't know why.. then i bring the xl0 up ping outside works fine with it. help?! > some additional information from the log > kernel: arp: 192.168.1.3 is on ath0 but got reply from 00:0b:5f:32:72:48 > on xl0 > Jul 24 18:39:50 host kernel: ath0: hardware error; resetting > Jul 24 18:39:50 host kernel: ath0: ath_reset: unable to reset hardware; hal status 3 > Jul 24 18:39:53 host kernel: arp: 192.168.1.3 is on ath0 but got reply from 00:0b:5f:32:72:48 on xl0 > Jul 24 18:40:23 host last message repeated 4 times > Jul 24 18:42:23 host last message repeated 17 times > output from arp -a returns only: > ? (192.168.1.1) at 00:0f:66:8b:60:13 on xl0 [ethernet] > and arp -i ath0 -a returns nothing > both cards have the same irq 11 at boot. i took 11 out of the pccard.conf > but it still comes up as 11 > can anybody help please... > thanks > more: > about xl0 from dmesg: > xl0: <3Com 3c556B Fast Etherlink XL> port 0x1800-0x18ff mem > 0xe8101000-0xe810107f,0xe8101400-0xe810147f irq 11 at device 3.0 on pci0 xl0: chip is in D3 power mode -- setting to D0 > xl0: Ethernet address: 00:00:86:43:54:46 > miibus0: on xl0 > about ath0 from dmesg: > ath0: mem 0x88000000-0x8800ffff irq 11 at device 0.0 on cardbus0 > ath0: mac 5.6 phy 4.1 5ghz radio 1.7 2ghz radio 2.3 > ath0: 11a rates: 6Mbps 9Mbps 12Mbps 18Mbps 24Mbps 36Mbps 48Mbps 54Mbps ath0: 11b rates: 1Mbps 2Mbps 5.5Mbps 11Mbps > ath0: 11g rates: 1Mbps 2Mbps 5.5Mbps 11Mbps 6Mbps 9Mbps 12Mbps 18Mbps 24Mbps 36Mbps 48Mbps 54Mbps > ath0: turbo rates: 6Mbps 9Mbps 12Mbps 18Mbps 24Mbps 36Mbps 48Mbps 54Mbps ath0: 802.11 address: 00:80:c8:16:eb:4b >> hi all.. >> i'm having trouble getting an ath card to work properly >> ifconfig output: >> ath0: flags=8843 mtu 1500 >> inet6 fe80::280:c8ff:fe16:eb4b%ath0 prefixlen 64 scopeid 0x4 >> ether 00:80:c8:16:eb:4b >> media: IEEE 802.11 Wireless Ethernet autoselect (DS/11Mbps) >> status: associated >> ssid accesspoint 1:accesspoint >> channel 6 authmode OPEN powersavemode OFF powersavesleep 100 >> wepmode OFF weptxkey 1 >> output of wicontrol: >> C serial number: [ ] >> Station name: [ myhost ] >> SSID for IBSS creation: [ accesspoint ] >> Current netname (SSID): [ accesspoint ] >> Desired netname (SSID): [ accesspoint ] >> Current BSSID: [ 00:0f:66:8b:60:13 ] >> Channel list: [ ffe 0 1510 1515 1 0 0 0 0 2320 23 ] >> IBSS channel: [ 6 ] >> Current channel: [ 6 ] >> Comms quality/signal/noise: [ 0 32 0 ] >> Promiscuous mode: [ Off ] >> Intersil-Prism2 based card: [ 1 ] >> Port type (1=BSS, 3=ad-hoc): [ 1 ] >> MAC address: [ 00:80:c8:16:eb:4b ] >> TX rate (selection): [ 0 ] >> TX rate (actual speed): [ 11 ] >> RTS/CTS handshake threshold: [ 2312 ] >> Create IBSS: [ Off ] >> Access point density: [ 1 ] >> Power Mgmt (1=on, 0=off): [ 0 ] >> Max sleep time: [ 100 ] >> WEP encryption: [ Off ] >> TX encryption key: [ 1 ] >> Encryption keys: [ ][ ][ ][ ] >> it dies see the router because it has status: associated and the channel >> setting is the one off the accesspoint. >> when i turn the nic off and try to ping out i get: >> ping: sendto: Network is down. >> network is not down because if i turn the nic on again i can do the ping. >> the router is common syslink one and the wireless setup is the >> basic/default one with no wep yet. >> i should say that the card was able to ping th router when the nic card didn't come up - that happens sometimes on this machine - t20 thinkpad. freebsd 5.2.1 >> is it an irq thing between the two cards? >> what else needs to be done in order to get the card working? >> thanks... >> _______________________________________________ >> freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org mailing list >> http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-mobile >> To unsubscribe, send any mail to >> "freebsd-mobile-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-mobile > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-mobile-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" -- Software is like sex: It's better when it's free. (Linus Torvalds) From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jul 26 04:12:55 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DC38316A4CE for ; Mon, 26 Jul 2004 04:12:55 +0000 (GMT) Received: from grande.el.net (NS2.EL.NET [68.165.89.67]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 3674943D1F for ; Mon, 26 Jul 2004 04:12:53 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from kalin@el.net) Received: (qmail 1878 invoked from network); 26 Jul 2004 04:18:31 -0000 Received: from localhost (HELO el.net) (127.0.0.1) by grande.el.net with SMTP; 26 Jul 2004 04:18:31 -0000 Received: from 151.204.154.241 (SquirrelMail authenticated user kalin) by el.net with HTTP; Mon, 26 Jul 2004 00:18:31 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <1303.151.204.154.241.1090815511.squirrel@el.net> In-Reply-To: <4103D689.2000404@geffychan.co.uk> References: <50138.151.204.154.241.1090701435.squirrel@el.net> <49251.151.204.154.241.1090712879.squirrel@el.net> <49409.151.204.154.241.1090734547.squirrel@el.net> <4103D689.2000404@geffychan.co.uk> Date: Mon, 26 Jul 2004 00:18:31 -0400 (EDT) From: "kalin mintchev" To: "Geffy" User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 Importance: Normal cc: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Subject: Re: ath card problem X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 26 Jul 2004 04:12:56 -0000 hi Geoff.. thanks. your recipe worked. except the server i used to ping while doing all the tests - my mail server (and only my mail server) - is no longer accessible from my laptop?! - host is down (down my ...!). and only from the laptop. and only with the ath0. i'm replying from another machine on the same network with an ip one behind my laptop that reaches my mail server interface just fine. apparently the atheros driver for freebsd has a lot to improve still. i probably could've bought another card and spare me the 12 or so hours of agony of recompiling kernel and ifconfig/wicontrol/ath hell. i'm used to do all this stuff but not for such a long time to get one wifi card to see every machine on the internet except my mail server... thank you, i really appreciate your help... > I had this same problem on my laptop with an rl card and the ath as a > pcmcia card, if I use the rc.conf to setup the ath0 card and not do > anything with the rl0 then all is fine. > When you take the xl0 down, you will also need to redefine your default > gateway route as that seems to get associated with a particular card, so > what I would have to do is take the rl0 card down with ifconfig, then > bring the ath0 up and set its ip, netmask, ssid, wepkey and so on then > modify the default route entry by > route change default > > if that doesnt work then > route flush > route add default > > you can see the default route by entering > netstat -rn > It should be called default and have a G as one of its flags. > > Hope that helps > - Geoff > > kalin mintchev wrote: >> now this is what i do: >> both cards come up; >> i turn xl0 down - if i don't and try to associate ath0 i get: >> ifconfig: ioctl (SIOCAIFADDR): File exists ; >> with the xl0 down i do: >> ifconfig ath0 inet 192.168.1.21 netmask 255.255.255.0 ssid apname; ping >> to >> 192.168.1.1 works; >> ping to anywhere outside does NOT work i get: >> ping: sendto: Network is down >> !?!? >> i don't know why.. >> >> then i bring the xl0 up ping outside works fine with it. >> >> help?! >> >> >> >>>some additional information from the log >>> kernel: arp: 192.168.1.3 is on ath0 but got reply from >> >> 00:0b:5f:32:72:48 >> >>>on xl0 >>>Jul 24 18:39:50 host kernel: ath0: hardware error; resetting >>>Jul 24 18:39:50 host kernel: ath0: ath_reset: unable to reset hardware; >> >> hal status 3 >> >>>Jul 24 18:39:53 host kernel: arp: 192.168.1.3 is on ath0 but got reply >> >> from 00:0b:5f:32:72:48 on xl0 >> >>>Jul 24 18:40:23 host last message repeated 4 times >>>Jul 24 18:42:23 host last message repeated 17 times >>>output from arp -a returns only: >>>? (192.168.1.1) at 00:0f:66:8b:60:13 on xl0 [ethernet] >>>and arp -i ath0 -a returns nothing >>>both cards have the same irq 11 at boot. i took 11 out of the >> >> pccard.conf >> >>>but it still comes up as 11 >>>can anybody help please... >>>thanks >>>more: >>>about xl0 from dmesg: >>>xl0: <3Com 3c556B Fast Etherlink XL> port 0x1800-0x18ff mem >>>0xe8101000-0xe810107f,0xe8101400-0xe810147f irq 11 at device 3.0 on pci0 >> >> xl0: chip is in D3 power mode -- setting to D0 >> >>>xl0: Ethernet address: 00:00:86:43:54:46 >>>miibus0: on xl0 >>>about ath0 from dmesg: >>>ath0: mem 0x88000000-0x8800ffff irq 11 at device 0.0 on >> >> cardbus0 >> >>>ath0: mac 5.6 phy 4.1 5ghz radio 1.7 2ghz radio 2.3 >>>ath0: 11a rates: 6Mbps 9Mbps 12Mbps 18Mbps 24Mbps 36Mbps 48Mbps 54Mbps >> >> ath0: 11b rates: 1Mbps 2Mbps 5.5Mbps 11Mbps >> >>>ath0: 11g rates: 1Mbps 2Mbps 5.5Mbps 11Mbps 6Mbps 9Mbps 12Mbps 18Mbps >> >> 24Mbps 36Mbps 48Mbps 54Mbps >> >>>ath0: turbo rates: 6Mbps 9Mbps 12Mbps 18Mbps 24Mbps 36Mbps 48Mbps 54Mbps >> >> ath0: 802.11 address: 00:80:c8:16:eb:4b >> >>>>hi all.. >>>>i'm having trouble getting an ath card to work properly >>>>ifconfig output: >>>>ath0: flags=8843 mtu 1500 >>>> inet6 fe80::280:c8ff:fe16:eb4b%ath0 prefixlen 64 scopeid 0x4 >>>> ether 00:80:c8:16:eb:4b >>>> media: IEEE 802.11 Wireless Ethernet autoselect (DS/11Mbps) >>>> status: associated >>>> ssid accesspoint 1:accesspoint >>>> channel 6 authmode OPEN powersavemode OFF powersavesleep 100 >>>> wepmode OFF weptxkey 1 >>>>output of wicontrol: >>>>C serial number: [ ] >>>>Station name: [ myhost ] >>>>SSID for IBSS creation: [ accesspoint ] >>>>Current netname (SSID): [ accesspoint ] >>>>Desired netname (SSID): [ accesspoint ] >>>>Current BSSID: [ 00:0f:66:8b:60:13 ] >>>>Channel list: [ ffe 0 1510 1515 1 0 0 0 0 2320 23 ] >>>>IBSS channel: [ 6 ] >>>>Current channel: [ 6 ] >>>>Comms quality/signal/noise: [ 0 32 0 ] >>>>Promiscuous mode: [ Off ] >>>>Intersil-Prism2 based card: [ 1 ] >>>>Port type (1=BSS, 3=ad-hoc): [ 1 ] >>>>MAC address: [ 00:80:c8:16:eb:4b ] >>>>TX rate (selection): [ 0 ] >>>>TX rate (actual speed): [ 11 ] >>>>RTS/CTS handshake threshold: [ 2312 ] >>>>Create IBSS: [ Off ] >>>>Access point density: [ 1 ] >>>>Power Mgmt (1=on, 0=off): [ 0 ] >>>>Max sleep time: [ 100 ] >>>>WEP encryption: [ Off ] >>>>TX encryption key: [ 1 ] >>>>Encryption keys: [ ][ ][ ][ ] >>>>it dies see the router because it has status: associated and the >> >> channel >> >>>>setting is the one off the accesspoint. >>>>when i turn the nic off and try to ping out i get: >>>>ping: sendto: Network is down. >>>>network is not down because if i turn the nic on again i can do the >>>> ping. >>>>the router is common syslink one and the wireless setup is the >>>>basic/default one with no wep yet. >>>>i should say that the card was able to ping th router when the nic card >> >> didn't come up - that happens sometimes on this machine - t20 thinkpad. >> freebsd 5.2.1 >> >>>>is it an irq thing between the two cards? >>>>what else needs to be done in order to get the card working? >>>>thanks... >>>>_______________________________________________ >>>>freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org mailing list >>>>http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-mobile >>>>To unsubscribe, send any mail to >>>>"freebsd-mobile-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" >>> >>>_______________________________________________ >>>freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org mailing list >>>http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-mobile >>>To unsubscribe, send any mail to >> >> "freebsd-mobile-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" >> >> >> -- >> Software is like sex: It's better when it's free. (Linus Torvalds) >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org mailing list >> http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-mobile >> To unsubscribe, send any mail to >> "freebsd-mobile-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" >> >> >> > -- Software is like sex: It's better when it's free. (Linus Torvalds) From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jul 26 13:07:24 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9386E16A4CE for ; Mon, 26 Jul 2004 13:07:24 +0000 (GMT) Received: from styx.aic.net (styx.aic.net [195.250.64.68]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1108B43D55 for ; Mon, 26 Jul 2004 13:07:24 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ran@styx.aic.net) Received: from ran by styx.aic.net with local (Exim 4.34 (FreeBSD)) id 1Bp5CK-000OM4-H6; Mon, 26 Jul 2004 18:07:20 +0500 In-Reply-To: <200407221351.31787.stuq@dstoys.com> To: Stuart Quimby Date: Mon, 26 Jul 2004 18:07:20 +0500 (AMST) X-PGP: http://styx.aic.net/pgpkeys/ran.asc X-NCC-RegID: am.nic X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL99b (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Message-Id: From: Hrant Dadivanyan cc: FreeBSD Laptoppers Subject: Re: working the bugs out of a Sony GRX650 - interrupts and the sound card X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 26 Jul 2004 13:07:24 -0000 Hi Stuart, You also should have difficulties with memory stick, second PC card slot and sometimes USB, correct ? AFAIK, Sony GRX and GR series have the same issue with interrupts delivery, when no interrupts are received by driver. vmstat -i should confirm it. I own GR300 and after two years fight found a workaround to get at least sound to work with STABLE - since video and sound share the same irq 9 as almost everything in this Sony design, if you configure kernel and X to use DRI (http://people.freebsd.org/~anholt/dri/), it will produce enough interrupts the sound to work well. Two weeks ago I have installed CURRENT and found that everything works pretty well in generic install. Also during these days CURRENT looks much stable with my laptop than STABLE. Thanks to all people working on FreeBSD ! Hope it help you, Hrant > Hi all, > > I'm running 4.9-RELEASE on my lapper and have been trying for over a year to > get the sound card running properly. I'm probably 'medium' level in my OS > skills, so there may be something basic that I'm missing. > > Dmesg reports the following on the card: > pcm0: port 0x18c0-0x18ff,0x1c00-0x1cff irq 9 at device > 31.5 on pci0 > pcm0: > > I have the same behavior I've heard others mention on this list: the sound > works fine as long as I wiggle the mouse - presumably this is generating > enough interrupts to keep the sound steady. > > I've tried both Intel ICH and the generic snd_driver and get identical (bad) > results. > > Anyone have this model and get it running properly? > > Thanks. > > > > -- > > Stuart Quimby > Pres. Design Science Toys, Ltd. > 172 Pleasant Vale Rd. > Tivoli, NY 12583 > 845.756.4221 (fax)4223 > stuq@dstoys.com > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-mobile > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-mobile-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > -- Hrant Dadivanyan (aka Ran d'Adi) ran(at)amnic.net /* "Feci quod potui, faciant meliora potentes." */ ran(at)styx.aic.net From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jul 26 14:50:22 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 17A3716A4D0; Mon, 26 Jul 2004 14:50:22 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtp-mclean.mitre.org (smtpproxy2.mitre.org [192.80.55.71]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5399A43D48; Mon, 26 Jul 2004 14:50:17 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jandrese@mitre.org) Received: from smtp-mclean.mitre.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by smtp-mclean.mitre.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id i6QEoGG16124; Mon, 26 Jul 2004 10:50:16 -0400 Received: from MAILHUB2 (mailhub2.mitre.org [129.83.221.18]) by smtp-mclean.mitre.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id i6QEoEg16067; Mon, 26 Jul 2004 10:50:14 -0400 Received: from mm112324-2k.mitre.org (128.29.3.51) by mailhub2.mitre.org with SMTP id 3828142; Mon, 26 Jul 2004 10:50:09 -0400 Message-ID: <41051A21.1010905@mitre.org> Date: Mon, 26 Jul 2004 10:50:09 -0400 From: Jason Andresen User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.0; en-US; rv:1.7.1) Gecko/20040707 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Greg 'groggy' Lehey" References: <20040725002730.GA69069@gargantuan.com> <20040725012109.GG78419@wantadilla.lemis.com> <410316E1.7020808@centtech.com> <20040725021913.GJ78419@wantadilla.lemis.com> In-Reply-To: <20040725021913.GJ78419@wantadilla.lemis.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: Eric Anderson cc: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Subject: Re: new laptop suggestions - not the usual stuff X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 26 Jul 2004 14:50:22 -0000 Greg 'groggy' Lehey wrote: > >Neither :-) > >The Inspiron 9100 has an optional 1920x1440 LCD screen. Mine was >bought for me by the company, unfortunately, and only has 1680x1050. >All models can handle video out of 2048x1536. > > However, it should be noted that the 1920x1440 resolution is only for people with very good eyes or a willingness to bump up the font size for every application they run. From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jul 26 15:42:54 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9254516A4CE for ; Mon, 26 Jul 2004 15:42:54 +0000 (GMT) Received: from a.outbound.bsdwebsolutions.com (a.outbound.bsdwebsolutions.com [64.72.68.2]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F0B2543D58 for ; Mon, 26 Jul 2004 15:42:49 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from stuq@dstoys.com) Received: (qmail 15579 invoked from network); 26 Jul 2004 15:42:32 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mail.bsdwebsolutions.com) (64.72.68.15) by a.outbound.bsdwebsolutions.com with AES256-SHA encrypted SMTP; 26 Jul 2004 15:42:32 -0000 Received: from [65.167.123.238] (helo=smtp.dstoys.com) by mail.bsdwebsolutions.com with esmtp (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.34; FreeBSD) id 1Bp7cW-0000Ud-4n for freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org ; Mon, 26 Jul 2004 11:42:32 -0400 Received: (qmail 56968 invoked from network); 26 Jul 2004 15:42:31 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?172.16.0.177?) (stuq@172.16.0.177) by smtp.dstoys.com with SMTP; 26 Jul 2004 15:42:31 -0000 From: Stuart Quimby Organization: Design Science Toys Ltd. To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Date: Mon, 26 Jul 2004 11:47:36 -0400 User-Agent: KMail/1.6.2 References: In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <200407261147.36418.stuq@dstoys.com> X-BSD-Recvd-From: [65.167.123.238] (helo=smtp.dstoys.com) X-BSD-Recvd-For: X-BSD-Auth-Id: X-BSD-AntiVirus: Yes [Mon Jul 26 11:42:32 2004] X-BSD-MailFrom: [stuq@dstoys.com] Subject: Re: working the bugs out of a Sony GRX650 - interrupts and the sound card X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 26 Jul 2004 15:42:54 -0000 Thanks for the tip! I'll try upgrading to CURRENT. Stuart On Monday 26 July 2004 09:07 am, Hrant Dadivanyan wrote: > Hi Stuart, > > You also should have difficulties with memory stick, second PC card slot > and sometimes USB, correct ? AFAIK, Sony GRX and GR series have the same > issue with interrupts delivery, when no interrupts are received by driver. > vmstat -i should confirm it. > > I own GR300 and after two years fight found a workaround to get at least > sound to work with STABLE - since video and sound share the same irq 9 as > almost everything in this Sony design, if you configure kernel and X to > use DRI (http://people.freebsd.org/~anholt/dri/), it will produce enough > interrupts the sound to work well. > > Two weeks ago I have installed CURRENT and found that everything works > pretty well in generic install. Also during these days CURRENT looks much > stable with my laptop than STABLE. Thanks to all people working on FreeBSD > ! > > Hope it help you, > Hrant > > > Hi all, > > > > I'm running 4.9-RELEASE on my lapper and have been trying for over a > > year to get the sound card running properly. I'm probably 'medium' level > > in my OS skills, so there may be something basic that I'm missing. > > > > Dmesg reports the following on the card: > > pcm0: port 0x18c0-0x18ff,0x1c00-0x1cff irq 9 at > > device 31.5 on pci0 > > pcm0: > > > > I have the same behavior I've heard others mention on this list: the > > sound works fine as long as I wiggle the mouse - presumably this is > > generating enough interrupts to keep the sound steady. > > > > I've tried both Intel ICH and the generic snd_driver and get identical > > (bad) results. > > > > Anyone have this model and get it running properly? > > > > Thanks. > > > > > > > > -- > > > > Stuart Quimby > > Pres. Design Science Toys, Ltd. > > 172 Pleasant Vale Rd. > > Tivoli, NY 12583 > > 845.756.4221 (fax)4223 > > stuq@dstoys.com > > _______________________________________________ > > freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org mailing list > > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-mobile > > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-mobile-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" -- Stuart Quimby Pres. Design Science Toys, Ltd. 172 Pleasant Vale Rd. Tivoli, NY 12583 845.756.4221 (fax)4223 stuq@dstoys.com From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jul 27 02:31:09 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from green.homeunix.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0038A16A4CE; Tue, 27 Jul 2004 02:31:08 +0000 (GMT) Received: from green.homeunix.org (green@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by green.homeunix.org (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id i6R2V84F099874; Mon, 26 Jul 2004 22:31:08 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from green@green.homeunix.org) Received: (from green@localhost) by green.homeunix.org (8.12.11/8.12.11/Submit) id i6R2V6nh099873; Mon, 26 Jul 2004 22:31:07 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from green) Date: Mon, 26 Jul 2004 22:31:06 -0400 From: Brian Fundakowski Feldman To: Patrick Hurrelmann Message-ID: <20040727023106.GD96815@green.homeunix.org> References: <40921E4B.3080609@bytephobia.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <40921E4B.3080609@bytephobia.de> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.6i cc: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org cc: freebsd-current@freebsd.org cc: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Prism54 Chipsets Supported? X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 27 Jul 2004 02:31:09 -0000 On Fri, Apr 30, 2004 at 11:37:15AM +0200, Patrick Hurrelmann wrote: > Hi, > > I am currently using a Dell TrueMobile 1300 (Broadcom) on my Dell > Latitude D600 Notebook. Thanks to Bill Pauls awesome work it is performs > very well for daily und "normal" wireless lan usage. > > But i want to run some tools, that are only available fo wi-cards. > Is Prism54-Chipset already supported? I read something that a driver for > linux exists on www.prism54.org. will it make it to freebsd or is it > highly unlikely? > > Some on the lists posted, that he has replaced his card with an > ath-based one. Maybe ath is an alternative to wi, but i'd relly prefer > wi (802.11g or a is a must have). Please check out: Note that this may well not compile on 5.2.1-RELEASE, just -CURRENT (and certainly not -STABLE). Seat belts are not included, but I have taken great lengths to make this what I belive to be one of the most inherently stable drivers on FreeBSD. Currently working are: ad-hoc mode, infrastracture mode, and HostAP (firmware-based) mode. WEP support works fine, but radiotap and promiscuous mode are not implemented. I can't find any PCI cards for sure that have Prism GT/Prism Duette chipsets (note that the Prism Nitro ones certainly won't work yet, but I don't know how much work it is to support them). I'm using NetGear WG511 CardBus cards, but haven't tried doing suspend/resume support yet. Notably absent are HostAP management features (listing associated clients, kicking them off, associating with 802.1x) and the support for TKIP. Still, it's nice having an 802.11 card that can do over 20Mbit/s and not take all your CPU time to do it. -- Brian Fundakowski Feldman \'[ FreeBSD ]''''''''''\ <> green@FreeBSD.org \ The Power to Serve! \ Opinions expressed are my own. \,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,\ From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jul 27 07:04:12 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 97C9016A4CE; Tue, 27 Jul 2004 07:04:12 +0000 (GMT) Received: from dd2626.kasserver.com (dd2626.kasserver.com [81.209.184.189]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2A97643D41; Tue, 27 Jul 2004 07:04:12 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from outi@bytephobia.de) Received: from duality.bytephobia.de (p50843E4D.dip.t-dialin.net [80.132.62.77]) by dd2626.kasserver.com (Postfix) with SMTP id 1467A70A74; Tue, 27 Jul 2004 09:04:08 +0200 (CEST) Date: Tue, 27 Jul 2004 09:10:20 +0200 From: Patrick Hurrelmann To: Brian Fundakowski Feldman Message-Id: <20040727091020.57f6a517@duality.bytephobia.de> In-Reply-To: <20040727023106.GD96815@green.homeunix.org> References: <40921E4B.3080609@bytephobia.de> <20040727023106.GD96815@green.homeunix.org> Organization: private X-Mailer: Sylpheed-Claws 0.9.12 (GTK+ 1.2.10; i386-portbld-freebsd5.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org cc: freebsd-current@freebsd.org cc: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Prism54 Chipsets Supported? X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: outi@bytephobia.de List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 27 Jul 2004 07:04:12 -0000 On Mon, 26 Jul 2004 22:31:06 -0400 Brian Fundakowski Feldman wrote: > Please check out: > > Note that this may well not compile on 5.2.1-RELEASE, just -CURRENT > (and certainly not -STABLE). Seat belts are not included, but I have > taken great lengths to make this what I belive to be one of the most > inherently stable drivers on FreeBSD. > > Currently working are: ad-hoc mode, infrastracture mode, and HostAP > (firmware-based) mode. WEP support works fine, but radiotap and > promiscuous mode are not implemented. I can't find any PCI cards > for sure that have Prism GT/Prism Duette chipsets (note that the > Prism Nitro ones certainly won't work yet, but I don't know how > much work it is to support them). I'm using NetGear WG511 CardBus > cards, but haven't tried doing suspend/resume support yet. > > Notably absent are HostAP management features (listing associated > clients, kicking them off, associating with 802.1x) and the > support for TKIP. Still, it's nice having an 802.11 card that can > do over 20Mbit/s and not take all your CPU time to do it. Thats great :) But first i'll have to get a card based on prism54. I bought a senao prism2,5 mini-pci card. i'm looking forward to test these drivers, if i'm able to get one of these cards in the near future. But nevertheless thanks for your work! Patrick -- =========================================================================== Patrick Hurrelmann | "Programming today is a race between software Mannheim, Germany | engineers striving to build bigger and better | idiot-proof programs, and the Universe trying outi at bytephobia.de | to produce bigger and better idiots. So far, www.bytephobia.de | the Universe is winning." - Rich Cook From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jul 27 21:15:55 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5271F16A4CE for ; Tue, 27 Jul 2004 21:15:55 +0000 (GMT) Received: from sage.thought.org (dsl231-043-140.sea1.dsl.speakeasy.net [216.231.43.140]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CDC9843D39 for ; Tue, 27 Jul 2004 21:15:54 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from kline@tao.thought.org) Received: from thought.org (tao [10.0.0.247]) by sage.thought.org (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id i6RLFq0E056138 for ; Tue, 27 Jul 2004 14:15:53 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kline@tao.thought.org) Received: from tao.thought.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by thought.org (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id i6RLFpJQ031787 for ; Tue, 27 Jul 2004 14:15:51 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kline@tao.thought.org) Received: (from kline@localhost) by tao.thought.org (8.12.11/8.12.11/Submit) id i6RLFpqv031786 for freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG; Tue, 27 Jul 2004 14:15:51 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kline) Date: Tue, 27 Jul 2004 14:15:50 -0700 From: Gary Kline To: FreeBSD Mobile Mailing List Message-ID: <20040727211550.GA31748@tao.thought.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline X-Organization: Thought Unlimited. Public service Unix since 1986. X-Of_Interest: Observing 18 years of service to the Unix community User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.6i Subject: Thinkpad 600E with Xircom ethernet adaptor X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 27 Jul 2004 21:15:55 -0000 Recently I got a 366MHz Thinkpad 600E. It came without a network card so I bought a Xircom Ethernet II 10/100 CBE2-100. I put the card in the bottom, slot, plugged the IBM USB-to-CAT5 cable with the adaptor to my CAT5 cable. Into my switch, and from 4.8 floppies tried to do do a network install. The thing is that /stand/sysinstall only gives me two options: SLIP and PPP. This I don't have. I got the network screen and entered my gateway and my DNS server (NS1.THOUGHT.ORG); still, no-joy. I toggled DCHP from hte options list, I chose the Default address range (0x0000) and irq 3. What am I doing wrong? Wrong card? ... thanks in advance, gary -- Gary Kline kline@thought.org www.thought.org Public service Unix From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jul 27 21:54:06 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4C2AD16A4CE for ; Tue, 27 Jul 2004 21:54:06 +0000 (GMT) Received: from simmts7-srv.bellnexxia.net (simmts7.bellnexxia.net [206.47.199.165]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 770FA43D39 for ; Tue, 27 Jul 2004 21:54:05 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from joshnet@nbnet.nb.ca) Received: from abydos.starfleet.com ([156.34.180.188]) by simmts7-srv.bellnexxia.netESMTP <20040727215254.GOVX18206.simmts7-srv.bellnexxia.net@abydos.starfleet.com> for ; Tue, 27 Jul 2004 17:52:54 -0400 Received: from [192.168.2.83] ([192.168.2.83]) by abydos.starfleet.com (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id i6RLm5rd070050 for ; Tue, 27 Jul 2004 18:48:05 -0300 (ADT) (envelope-from joshnet@nbnet.nb.ca) From: Joshua Colp To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Date: Tue, 27 Jul 2004 18:52:22 +0000 User-Agent: KMail/1.6.2 References: <20040727211550.GA31748@tao.thought.org> In-Reply-To: <20040727211550.GA31748@tao.thought.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <200407271852.22486.joshnet@nbnet.nb.ca> Subject: Re: Thinkpad 600E with Xircom ethernet adaptor X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 27 Jul 2004 21:54:06 -0000 Hello, Gary FreeBSD 4 doesn't support cardbus and your Xircom card probably uses it. Thus, you'll have to install FreeBSD 5 if you want to use it. (I had the same problem with my 3Com NIC). - Joshua Colp. On July 27, 2004 09:15 pm, Gary Kline wrote: > Recently I got a 366MHz Thinkpad 600E. It came without > a network card so I bought a Xircom Ethernet II 10/100 CBE2-100. > I put the card in the bottom, slot, plugged the IBM > USB-to-CAT5 cable with the adaptor to my CAT5 cable. Into > my switch, and from 4.8 floppies tried to do do a network > install. > > The thing is that /stand/sysinstall only gives me two options: > SLIP and PPP. This I don't have. I got the network screen > and entered my gateway and my DNS server (NS1.THOUGHT.ORG); > still, no-joy. I toggled DCHP from hte options list, I > chose the Default address range (0x0000) and irq 3. > > What am I doing wrong? Wrong card? ... > > thanks in advance, > > gary From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jul 27 22:36:10 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AE95A16A4E0 for ; Tue, 27 Jul 2004 22:36:10 +0000 (GMT) Received: from sage.thought.org (dsl231-043-140.sea1.dsl.speakeasy.net [216.231.43.140]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 333B743D45 for ; Tue, 27 Jul 2004 22:36:10 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from kline@tao.thought.org) Received: from thought.org (tao [10.0.0.247]) by sage.thought.org (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id i6RMa80E056304; Tue, 27 Jul 2004 15:36:09 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kline@tao.thought.org) Received: from tao.thought.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by thought.org (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id i6RMa74p031958; Tue, 27 Jul 2004 15:36:08 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kline@tao.thought.org) Received: (from kline@localhost) by tao.thought.org (8.12.11/8.12.11/Submit) id i6RMa790031957; Tue, 27 Jul 2004 15:36:07 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kline) Date: Tue, 27 Jul 2004 15:36:06 -0700 From: Gary Kline To: Joshua Colp Message-ID: <20040727223606.GB31898@tao.thought.org> References: <20040727211550.GA31748@tao.thought.org> <200407271852.22486.joshnet@nbnet.nb.ca> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <200407271852.22486.joshnet@nbnet.nb.ca> X-Organization: Thought Unlimited. Public service Unix since 1986. X-Of_Interest: Observing 18 years of service to the Unix community User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.6i cc: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Thinkpad 600E with Xircom ethernet adaptor X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 27 Jul 2004 22:36:10 -0000 On Tue, Jul 27, 2004 at 06:52:22PM +0000, Joshua Colp wrote: > Hello, Gary > > FreeBSD 4 doesn't support cardbus and your Xircom card probably uses it. Thus, > you'll have to install FreeBSD 5 if you want to use it. (I had the same > problem with my 3Com NIC). > > - Joshua Colp. > Hm. The last time I did a // tried a floppy install of 5.2, the istall (on one of my tower servers) hung up. I'll try with the (hopefully new!) 5.2 floppies; maybe they work by now. --what PCMCIA cards do work with 4.8? and the Thinkpad, &c. thanks much! gary PS: the card does say "card bus"... . -- Gary Kline kline@thought.org www.thought.org Public service Unix From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jul 27 23:16:54 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4312A16A4D0 for ; Tue, 27 Jul 2004 23:16:54 +0000 (GMT) Received: from grande.el.net (NS2.EL.NET [68.165.89.67]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 705D043D3F for ; Tue, 27 Jul 2004 23:16:53 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from kalin@el.net) Received: (qmail 27783 invoked from network); 27 Jul 2004 23:22:25 -0000 Received: from localhost (HELO el.net) (127.0.0.1) by grande.el.net with SMTP; 27 Jul 2004 23:22:25 -0000 Received: from 151.204.154.241 (SquirrelMail authenticated user kalin) by el.net with HTTP; Tue, 27 Jul 2004 19:22:25 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <49561.151.204.154.241.1090970545.squirrel@el.net> In-Reply-To: <4103D689.2000404@geffychan.co.uk> References: <50138.151.204.154.241.1090701435.squirrel@el.net> <49251.151.204.154.241.1090712879.squirrel@el.net> <49409.151.204.154.241.1090734547.squirrel@el.net> <4103D689.2000404@geffychan.co.uk> Date: Tue, 27 Jul 2004 19:22:25 -0400 (EDT) From: "kalin mintchev" To: "Geffy" User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 Importance: Normal cc: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Subject: Re: ath card problem X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 27 Jul 2004 23:16:54 -0000 thanks again about this tip.. now what happens is that whenever i do this procedure the card stays up for about 10 - 15 min and then i get the dmesg of: ath0: device timeout ath0: ath_reset: unable to reset hardware; hal status 3 ath0: device timeout ath0: ath_reset: unable to reset hardware; hal status 3 ath0: device timeout it's not to much fun to do that every 10 minutes or so. is there a refresh rate that has to be set up somewhere that will take care of that? i looked at the ifconfig manual but nothing from that sort... i use either ifconfig or dhclient - they both seem to work.. thanks > I had this same problem on my laptop with an rl card and the ath as a > pcmcia card, if I use the rc.conf to setup the ath0 card and not do > anything with the rl0 then all is fine. > When you take the xl0 down, you will also need to redefine your default > gateway route as that seems to get associated with a particular card, so > what I would have to do is take the rl0 card down with ifconfig, then > bring the ath0 up and set its ip, netmask, ssid, wepkey and so on then > modify the default route entry by > route change default > > if that doesnt work then > route flush > route add default > > you can see the default route by entering > netstat -rn > It should be called default and have a G as one of its flags. > > Hope that helps > - Geoff > > kalin mintchev wrote: >> now this is what i do: >> both cards come up; >> i turn xl0 down - if i don't and try to associate ath0 i get: >> ifconfig: ioctl (SIOCAIFADDR): File exists ; >> with the xl0 down i do: >> ifconfig ath0 inet 192.168.1.21 netmask 255.255.255.0 ssid apname; ping >> to >> 192.168.1.1 works; >> ping to anywhere outside does NOT work i get: >> ping: sendto: Network is down >> !?!? >> i don't know why.. >> >> then i bring the xl0 up ping outside works fine with it. >> >> help?! >> >> >> >>>some additional information from the log >>> kernel: arp: 192.168.1.3 is on ath0 but got reply from >> >> 00:0b:5f:32:72:48 >> >>>on xl0 >>>Jul 24 18:39:50 host kernel: ath0: hardware error; resetting >>>Jul 24 18:39:50 host kernel: ath0: ath_reset: unable to reset hardware; >> >> hal status 3 >> >>>Jul 24 18:39:53 host kernel: arp: 192.168.1.3 is on ath0 but got reply >> >> from 00:0b:5f:32:72:48 on xl0 >> >>>Jul 24 18:40:23 host last message repeated 4 times >>>Jul 24 18:42:23 host last message repeated 17 times >>>output from arp -a returns only: >>>? (192.168.1.1) at 00:0f:66:8b:60:13 on xl0 [ethernet] >>>and arp -i ath0 -a returns nothing >>>both cards have the same irq 11 at boot. i took 11 out of the >> >> pccard.conf >> >>>but it still comes up as 11 >>>can anybody help please... >>>thanks >>>more: >>>about xl0 from dmesg: >>>xl0: <3Com 3c556B Fast Etherlink XL> port 0x1800-0x18ff mem >>>0xe8101000-0xe810107f,0xe8101400-0xe810147f irq 11 at device 3.0 on pci0 >> >> xl0: chip is in D3 power mode -- setting to D0 >> >>>xl0: Ethernet address: 00:00:86:43:54:46 >>>miibus0: on xl0 >>>about ath0 from dmesg: >>>ath0: mem 0x88000000-0x8800ffff irq 11 at device 0.0 on >> >> cardbus0 >> >>>ath0: mac 5.6 phy 4.1 5ghz radio 1.7 2ghz radio 2.3 >>>ath0: 11a rates: 6Mbps 9Mbps 12Mbps 18Mbps 24Mbps 36Mbps 48Mbps 54Mbps >> >> ath0: 11b rates: 1Mbps 2Mbps 5.5Mbps 11Mbps >> >>>ath0: 11g rates: 1Mbps 2Mbps 5.5Mbps 11Mbps 6Mbps 9Mbps 12Mbps 18Mbps >> >> 24Mbps 36Mbps 48Mbps 54Mbps >> >>>ath0: turbo rates: 6Mbps 9Mbps 12Mbps 18Mbps 24Mbps 36Mbps 48Mbps 54Mbps >> >> ath0: 802.11 address: 00:80:c8:16:eb:4b >> >>>>hi all.. >>>>i'm having trouble getting an ath card to work properly >>>>ifconfig output: >>>>ath0: flags=8843 mtu 1500 >>>> inet6 fe80::280:c8ff:fe16:eb4b%ath0 prefixlen 64 scopeid 0x4 >>>> ether 00:80:c8:16:eb:4b >>>> media: IEEE 802.11 Wireless Ethernet autoselect (DS/11Mbps) >>>> status: associated >>>> ssid accesspoint 1:accesspoint >>>> channel 6 authmode OPEN powersavemode OFF powersavesleep 100 >>>> wepmode OFF weptxkey 1 >>>>output of wicontrol: >>>>C serial number: [ ] >>>>Station name: [ myhost ] >>>>SSID for IBSS creation: [ accesspoint ] >>>>Current netname (SSID): [ accesspoint ] >>>>Desired netname (SSID): [ accesspoint ] >>>>Current BSSID: [ 00:0f:66:8b:60:13 ] >>>>Channel list: [ ffe 0 1510 1515 1 0 0 0 0 2320 23 ] >>>>IBSS channel: [ 6 ] >>>>Current channel: [ 6 ] >>>>Comms quality/signal/noise: [ 0 32 0 ] >>>>Promiscuous mode: [ Off ] >>>>Intersil-Prism2 based card: [ 1 ] >>>>Port type (1=BSS, 3=ad-hoc): [ 1 ] >>>>MAC address: [ 00:80:c8:16:eb:4b ] >>>>TX rate (selection): [ 0 ] >>>>TX rate (actual speed): [ 11 ] >>>>RTS/CTS handshake threshold: [ 2312 ] >>>>Create IBSS: [ Off ] >>>>Access point density: [ 1 ] >>>>Power Mgmt (1=on, 0=off): [ 0 ] >>>>Max sleep time: [ 100 ] >>>>WEP encryption: [ Off ] >>>>TX encryption key: [ 1 ] >>>>Encryption keys: [ ][ ][ ][ ] >>>>it dies see the router because it has status: associated and the >> >> channel >> >>>>setting is the one off the accesspoint. >>>>when i turn the nic off and try to ping out i get: >>>>ping: sendto: Network is down. >>>>network is not down because if i turn the nic on again i can do the >>>> ping. >>>>the router is common syslink one and the wireless setup is the >>>>basic/default one with no wep yet. >>>>i should say that the card was able to ping th router when the nic card >> >> didn't come up - that happens sometimes on this machine - t20 thinkpad. >> freebsd 5.2.1 >> >>>>is it an irq thing between the two cards? >>>>what else needs to be done in order to get the card working? >>>>thanks... >>>>_______________________________________________ >>>>freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org mailing list >>>>http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-mobile >>>>To unsubscribe, send any mail to >>>>"freebsd-mobile-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" >>> >>>_______________________________________________ >>>freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org mailing list >>>http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-mobile >>>To unsubscribe, send any mail to >> >> "freebsd-mobile-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" >> >> >> -- >> Software is like sex: It's better when it's free. (Linus Torvalds) >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org mailing list >> http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-mobile >> To unsubscribe, send any mail to >> "freebsd-mobile-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" >> >> >> > -- Software is like sex: It's better when it's free. (Linus Torvalds) From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jul 28 04:27:00 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9F55516A51F for ; Wed, 28 Jul 2004 04:27:00 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mail6.speakeasy.net (mail6.speakeasy.net [216.254.0.206]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6655643D55 for ; Wed, 28 Jul 2004 04:27:00 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jhb@FreeBSD.org) Received: (qmail 31620 invoked from network); 28 Jul 2004 04:26:59 -0000 Received: from dsl027-160-063.atl1.dsl.speakeasy.net (HELO server.baldwin.cx) ([216.27.160.63]) (envelope-sender ) encrypted SMTP for ; 28 Jul 2004 04:26:59 -0000 Received: from slimer.baldwin.cx (slimer.baldwin.cx [192.168.0.16]) (authenticated bits=0) by server.baldwin.cx (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id i6S4QMKj076150; Wed, 28 Jul 2004 00:26:44 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from jhb@FreeBSD.org) From: John Baldwin To: freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.org Date: Tue, 27 Jul 2004 21:35:11 -0400 User-Agent: KMail/1.6 References: <40FD4EB3.10993.2690B26F@localhost> <40FEA91F.8010403@makeworld.com> In-Reply-To: <40FEA91F.8010403@makeworld.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <200407272135.11807.jhb@FreeBSD.org> X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on server.baldwin.cx cc: jesse@wingnet.net Subject: Re: Anyone following RELENG_5_2? X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 28 Jul 2004 04:27:00 -0000 On Wednesday 21 July 2004 01:34 pm, Chris wrote: > Jesse Guardiani wrote: > > Chris wrote: > >>RacerX wrote: > >>>Dan Langille wrote: > >>>>Are you following RELENG_5_2 by cvsup'ing and building world? I ask > >>>>because I've never tried that on -CURRENT. Anyone having good results > >>>>by upgrading from 5.2.1-RELEASE? > >>>> > >>>>Someone mentioned that we are now up to 5.2.1-RELEASE-p9 and I figure > >>>>I should upgrade. Perhaps tomorrow, while I'm at > >>>>http://www.linuxsymposium.org/ ;) > >>> > >>>Dan - > >>> > >>> I use 5.2.1-REL-p9 on both my devices. Have been for months. It runs > >>>just dandy, and everything I use works. > >>> > >>>Some specs - > >>>On my home PC: > >>>Athlon 2100 > >>> > >>>Laptop: > >>>Dell Inspiron 7500 > >> > >>Blah - sorry about that. New mail client. Dropped KMail for Thunderbird > >>and I guess I didn't have all of it configured. > > > > How is that working out for you? (Kmail -> Thunderbird) > > > > I've always felt that KMail is a superior mail client, especially when it > > comes to IMAP, but I'd love to be able to use something that runs on > > Win32 too. How much mail do you manage daily, and do you use IMAP? > > KMail is nice - however, for IMAP, KMail does NOT support the use of > email filters. (Booo) Perhaps in an upcoming release it may. > > The Mozilla site has a how-to if you need to "export" your email from > KMail. Mind you, I use the term export lightly. > > It's time consuming but rather straight to the point. I did it, and I am > very happy I did so. T-Bird does support IMAP (Coo) but I don't use it > thus far. > > The filtering is far better then KMail's (IMHO) and like you, am trying > to keep my mail clients even in both FreeBSD and Winders. With IMAP, it makes the most sense to do the mail filtering on the server when the mail comes in rather than when the client connects. If you do the filtering in each of your clients. I use a cyrus IMAP server with a Sieve filtering script on my server. By doing the filtering on the server, my mail is always properly sorted if I use kmail, squirrelmail webmail, mutt, or any other mail client. It's also more efficient bandwidth-wise to do the filtering on the server. :) -- John Baldwin <>< http://www.FreeBSD.org/~jhb/ "Power Users Use the Power to Serve" = http://www.FreeBSD.org From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jul 28 05:16:28 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CD3BC16A4CE for ; Wed, 28 Jul 2004 05:16:28 +0000 (GMT) Received: from sage.thought.org (dsl231-043-140.sea1.dsl.speakeasy.net [216.231.43.140]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C626343D39 for ; Wed, 28 Jul 2004 05:16:27 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from kline@tao.thought.org) Received: from thought.org (tao [10.0.0.247]) by sage.thought.org (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id i6S5GP0E056774 for ; Tue, 27 Jul 2004 22:16:25 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kline@tao.thought.org) Received: from tao.thought.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by thought.org (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id i6S5GNcD032541 for ; Tue, 27 Jul 2004 22:16:24 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kline@tao.thought.org) Received: (from kline@localhost) by tao.thought.org (8.12.11/8.12.11/Submit) id i6S5GNP3032540 for freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG; Tue, 27 Jul 2004 22:16:23 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kline) Date: Tue, 27 Jul 2004 22:16:22 -0700 From: Gary Kline To: FreeBSD Mobile Mailing List Message-ID: <20040728051622.GA32519@tao.thought.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline X-Organization: Thought Unlimited. Public service Unix since 1986. X-Of_Interest: Observing 18 years of service to the Unix community User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.6i Subject: Thinkpad 600E and 5.2 X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 28 Jul 2004 05:16:28 -0000 Folks, Many months ago I tried a floppy install of 5.3 on my HP Kayak. It poisoned. A few hours ago today I downloaded the latest 5.2 floppy set nd booted my ThinkPad 600E. The boot *did* see my Xircom Ethernet II adaptor, but the kernel poisoned and rebooted after 15 seconds. Eventually I will be able to use the Xircom. But for now it's time to go back to old, STABLE 4.8. Soooo, nutshell, what cards will work with my ISDL CAT5 cable in 4.8? I'd like the name and model and any other id regarding the card so that I get it right next time. Thanks in advance, guys, gary -- Gary Kline kline@thought.org www.thought.org Public service Unix From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jul 28 06:01:25 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 512D016A4E3 for ; Wed, 28 Jul 2004 06:01:25 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtp.masterhost.ru (smtp.masterhost.ru [217.16.16.82]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 011D643D49 for ; Wed, 28 Jul 2004 06:01:24 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from vbratsev@apt-telecom.ru) Received: (qmail 67775 invoked from network); 28 Jul 2004 06:01:08 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO victor) (vbratsev@apt-telecom.ru@213.208.181.214) by smtp.masterhost.ru with SMTP; 28 Jul 2004 06:01:08 -0000 Message-ID: <00f701c47468$517e0290$0400a8c0@victor> From: "Victor Bratsev" To: "Gary Kline" References: <20040728051622.GA32519@tao.thought.org> Date: Wed, 28 Jul 2004 10:01:26 +0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4807.1700 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4910.0300 cc: FreeBSD Mobile Mailing List Subject: Re: Thinkpad 600E and 5.2 X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 28 Jul 2004 06:01:25 -0000 You should look at HARDWARE.txt for devices that work with freebsd or ask about specific device, maybe somebody is using it. I've got TP600E with Xircom RE-100 (with some unresolved issues) under 4.7-R and 4.10-R ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gary Kline" To: "FreeBSD Mobile Mailing List" Sent: Wednesday, July 28, 2004 9:16 AM Subject: Thinkpad 600E and 5.2 > > Folks, > > Many months ago I tried a floppy install of 5.3 on my > HP Kayak. It poisoned. A few hours ago today I downloaded > the latest 5.2 floppy set nd booted my ThinkPad 600E. > The boot *did* see my Xircom Ethernet II adaptor, but the > kernel poisoned and rebooted after 15 seconds. > > Eventually I will be able to use the Xircom. But for now > it's time to go back to old, STABLE 4.8. Soooo, nutshell, > what cards will work with my ISDL CAT5 cable in 4.8? I'd like > the name and model and any other id regarding the card so > that I get it right next time. > > Thanks in advance, guys, > > gary > > -- > Gary Kline kline@thought.org www.thought.org Public service Unix > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-mobile > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-mobile-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jul 28 17:07:08 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BF71616A4CE for ; Wed, 28 Jul 2004 17:07:08 +0000 (GMT) Received: from sage.thought.org (dsl231-043-140.sea1.dsl.speakeasy.net [216.231.43.140]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E1BF143D58 for ; Wed, 28 Jul 2004 17:07:07 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from kline@tao.thought.org) Received: from thought.org (tao [10.0.0.247]) by sage.thought.org (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id i6SH6s0E058369; Wed, 28 Jul 2004 10:06:56 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kline@tao.thought.org) Received: from tao.thought.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by thought.org (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id i6SH6q34065605; Wed, 28 Jul 2004 10:06:53 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kline@tao.thought.org) Received: (from kline@localhost) by tao.thought.org (8.12.11/8.12.11/Submit) id i6SH6pCm065604; Wed, 28 Jul 2004 10:06:51 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kline) Date: Wed, 28 Jul 2004 10:06:50 -0700 From: Gary Kline To: Victor Bratsev Message-ID: <20040728170650.GA65532@tao.thought.org> References: <20040728051622.GA32519@tao.thought.org> <00f701c47468$517e0290$0400a8c0@victor> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <00f701c47468$517e0290$0400a8c0@victor> X-Organization: Thought Unlimited. Public service Unix since 1986. X-Of_Interest: Observing 18 years of service to the Unix community User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.6i cc: FreeBSD Mobile Mailing List Subject: Re: Thinkpad 600E and 5.2 X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 28 Jul 2004 17:07:08 -0000 On Wed, Jul 28, 2004 at 10:01:26AM +0400, Victor Bratsev wrote: > You should look at HARDWARE.txt for devices that work with freebsd or ask > about specific device, maybe somebody is using it. > > I've got TP600E with Xircom RE-100 (with some unresolved issues) under 4.7-R > and 4.10-R > (Can you describe what your "unresolved issues" are?)... . Good points. It seems to me that any NIC card that works on a laptop should work on a Thinkppad. I'm looking at the 3Com type cards and anything that uses the DEC/Intel 21143 chipset/logic. The Linksys cards have workrd flawlessly on four of my tower systems. According to the 4.8R HARDWARE.txt list there is: * Linksys EC2T/PCMPC100/PCM100, PCMLM56, EtherFast 10/100 PC Card, Combo PCMCIA Ethernet Card (PCMPC100 V2) If anyone on -mobile has one of these on 4.8 or later I'll try one of these. Anybody?? thanks much, gary > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Gary Kline" > To: "FreeBSD Mobile Mailing List" > Sent: Wednesday, July 28, 2004 9:16 AM > Subject: Thinkpad 600E and 5.2 > > > > > > Folks, > > > > Many months ago I tried a floppy install of 5.3 on my > > HP Kayak. It poisoned. A few hours ago today I downloaded > > the latest 5.2 floppy set nd booted my ThinkPad 600E. > > The boot *did* see my Xircom Ethernet II adaptor, but the > > kernel poisoned and rebooted after 15 seconds. > > > > Eventually I will be able to use the Xircom. But for now > > it's time to go back to old, STABLE 4.8. Soooo, nutshell, > > what cards will work with my ISDL CAT5 cable in 4.8? I'd like > > the name and model and any other id regarding the card so > > that I get it right next time. > > > > Thanks in advance, guys, > > > > gary > > > > -- > > Gary Kline kline@thought.org www.thought.org Public service > Unix > > > > _______________________________________________ > > freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org mailing list > > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-mobile > > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-mobile-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-mobile > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-mobile-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" -- Gary Kline kline@thought.org www.thought.org Public service Unix From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jul 28 17:21:37 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4C61716A4CE for ; Wed, 28 Jul 2004 17:21:37 +0000 (GMT) Received: from virusproxy.wilkshire.net (virusproxy.wilkshire.net [207.206.44.14]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 6702C43D60 for ; Wed, 28 Jul 2004 17:21:36 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from cody@spintime.org) Received: (qmail 9519 invoked by uid 5020); 28 Jul 2004 17:43:04 -0000 Received: from cody@spintime.org by virusproxy.wilkshire.net by uid 5013 with qmail-scanner-1.22 (clamdscan: 0.71. 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(cody@wilkshire.net@207.206.44.4) by mail.wilkshire.net with SMTP; 28 Jul 2004 17:18:29 -0000 Message-ID: <4107E095.2000605@spintime.org> Date: Wed, 28 Jul 2004 13:21:25 -0400 From: Cody Baker User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 0.6 (Macintosh/20040502) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG References: <20040728051622.GA32519@tao.thought.org> <00f701c47468$517e0290$0400a8c0@victor> <20040728170650.GA65532@tao.thought.org> In-Reply-To: <20040728170650.GA65532@tao.thought.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Thinkpad 600E and 5.2 X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 28 Jul 2004 17:21:37 -0000 I have a Thinkpad 770e (PII 266) with one of the Linksys PCMPC100 cards. It does work well in FreeBSD 4.10-stable. Do realize that you won't be able to realize true 100MB performance from one of these 16bit cards. While we're on the subject though, I can't get anything to work in 5.2.1. I continually get these watchdog timeout errors, be it a Cardbus card, or a 16bit card like the Linksys. I'm planning on tossing -current on it this weekend to see if the problem has already been solved there. If anyone has any thoughts I'd appreciate them. Thank You, Cody Baker cody@spintime.org 330.934.0659 Gary Kline wrote: >On Wed, Jul 28, 2004 at 10:01:26AM +0400, Victor Bratsev wrote: > > >>You should look at HARDWARE.txt for devices that work with freebsd or ask >>about specific device, maybe somebody is using it. >> >>I've got TP600E with Xircom RE-100 (with some unresolved issues) under 4.7-R >>and 4.10-R >> >> >> > > (Can you describe what your "unresolved issues" are?)... . > > Good points. It seems to me that any NIC card that works on > a laptop should work on a Thinkppad. I'm looking at the > 3Com type cards and anything that uses the DEC/Intel 21143 > chipset/logic. The Linksys cards have workrd flawlessly > on four of my tower systems. > > According to the 4.8R HARDWARE.txt list there is: > > * Linksys EC2T/PCMPC100/PCM100, PCMLM56, EtherFast 10/100 PC Card, > Combo PCMCIA Ethernet Card (PCMPC100 V2) > > If anyone on -mobile has one of these on 4.8 or later > I'll try one of these. > > Anybody?? > > thanks much, > > gary > > > > > > >>----- Original Message ----- >>From: "Gary Kline" >>To: "FreeBSD Mobile Mailing List" >>Sent: Wednesday, July 28, 2004 9:16 AM >>Subject: Thinkpad 600E and 5.2 >> >> >> >> >>>Folks, >>> >>>Many months ago I tried a floppy install of 5.3 on my >>>HP Kayak. It poisoned. A few hours ago today I downloaded >>>the latest 5.2 floppy set nd booted my ThinkPad 600E. >>>The boot *did* see my Xircom Ethernet II adaptor, but the >>>kernel poisoned and rebooted after 15 seconds. >>> >>>Eventually I will be able to use the Xircom. But for now >>>it's time to go back to old, STABLE 4.8. Soooo, nutshell, >>>what cards will work with my ISDL CAT5 cable in 4.8? I'd like >>>the name and model and any other id regarding the card so >>>that I get it right next time. >>> >>>Thanks in advance, guys, >>> >>>gary >>> >>>-- >>> Gary Kline kline@thought.org www.thought.org Public service >>> >>> >>Unix >> >> >>>_______________________________________________ >>>freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org mailing list >>>http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-mobile >>>To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-mobile-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" >>> >>> >>> >>_______________________________________________ >>freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org mailing list >>http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-mobile >>To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-mobile-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" >> >> > > > From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jul 28 17:51:57 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ED42416A4CE for ; Wed, 28 Jul 2004 17:51:57 +0000 (GMT) Received: from sage.thought.org (dsl231-043-140.sea1.dsl.speakeasy.net [216.231.43.140]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2D41C43D6E for ; Wed, 28 Jul 2004 17:51:55 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from kline@tao.thought.org) Received: from thought.org (tao [10.0.0.247]) by sage.thought.org (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id i6SHpr0E058462; Wed, 28 Jul 2004 10:51:54 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kline@tao.thought.org) Received: from tao.thought.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by thought.org (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id i6SHpqId065724; Wed, 28 Jul 2004 10:51:52 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kline@tao.thought.org) Received: (from kline@localhost) by tao.thought.org (8.12.11/8.12.11/Submit) id i6SHppKh065723; Wed, 28 Jul 2004 10:51:51 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kline) Date: Wed, 28 Jul 2004 10:51:50 -0700 From: Gary Kline To: Cody Baker Message-ID: <20040728175150.GC65532@tao.thought.org> References: <20040728051622.GA32519@tao.thought.org> <00f701c47468$517e0290$0400a8c0@victor> <20040728170650.GA65532@tao.thought.org> <4107E095.2000605@spintime.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <4107E095.2000605@spintime.org> X-Organization: Thought Unlimited. Public service Unix since 1986. X-Of_Interest: Observing 18 years of service to the Unix community User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.6i cc: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Thinkpad 600E and 5.2 X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 28 Jul 2004 17:51:58 -0000 On Wed, Jul 28, 2004 at 01:21:25PM -0400, Cody Baker wrote: > I have a Thinkpad 770e (PII 266) with one of the Linksys PCMPC100 > cards. It does work well in FreeBSD 4.10-stable. Do realize that you > won't be able to realize true 100MB performance from one of these 16bit > cards. While we're on the subject though, I can't get anything to work > in 5.2.1. I continually get these watchdog timeout errors, be it a > Cardbus card, or a 16bit card like the Linksys. I'm planning on tossing > -current on it this weekend to see if the problem has already been > solved there. If anyone has any thoughts I'd appreciate them. > > Thank You, > > Cody Baker > cody@spintime.org > 330.934.0659 > Hmm. Well, if the 770e series iis just an "older version" of the 600E, then it looks like thw Linksys PCMPC100 is the way to fly. --100Mb performance isn't that important. I just finally upgraded my nework from 10 -> 10/100 after years of working at 10. So long as I'll be able to so -ports cvsups or stable- cvsups, and share data, speed isn't a factor. I'll have time for a brew:-) Would you kindly keep me posted re your progress with your experiments? And how did you manage to get 5.2 installed of your Thinkpad? CDROM? My 5.2.1 CDROM's are months old but the install disk traps... (?) gary > > Gary Kline wrote: > > >On Wed, Jul 28, 2004 at 10:01:26AM +0400, Victor Bratsev wrote: > > > > > >>You should look at HARDWARE.txt for devices that work with freebsd or ask > >>about specific device, maybe somebody is using it. > >> > >>I've got TP600E with Xircom RE-100 (with some unresolved issues) under > >>4.7-R > >>and 4.10-R > >> > >> > >> > > > > (Can you describe what your "unresolved issues" are?)... . > > > > Good points. It seems to me that any NIC card that works on > > a laptop should work on a Thinkppad. I'm looking at the > > 3Com type cards and anything that uses the DEC/Intel 21143 > > chipset/logic. The Linksys cards have workrd flawlessly > > on four of my tower systems. > > > > According to the 4.8R HARDWARE.txt list there is: > > > > * Linksys EC2T/PCMPC100/PCM100, PCMLM56, EtherFast 10/100 PC Card, > > Combo PCMCIA Ethernet Card (PCMPC100 V2) > > > > If anyone on -mobile has one of these on 4.8 or later > > I'll try one of these. > > > > Anybody?? > > > > thanks much, > > > > gary > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>----- Original Message ----- > >>From: "Gary Kline" > >>To: "FreeBSD Mobile Mailing List" > >>Sent: Wednesday, July 28, 2004 9:16 AM > >>Subject: Thinkpad 600E and 5.2 > >> > >> > >> > >> > >>>Folks, > >>> > >>>Many months ago I tried a floppy install of 5.3 on my > >>>HP Kayak. It poisoned. A few hours ago today I downloaded > >>>the latest 5.2 floppy set nd booted my ThinkPad 600E. > >>>The boot *did* see my Xircom Ethernet II adaptor, but the > >>>kernel poisoned and rebooted after 15 seconds. > >>> > >>>Eventually I will be able to use the Xircom. But for now > >>>it's time to go back to old, STABLE 4.8. Soooo, nutshell, > >>>what cards will work with my ISDL CAT5 cable in 4.8? I'd like > >>>the name and model and any other id regarding the card so > >>>that I get it right next time. > >>> > >>>Thanks in advance, guys, > >>> > >>>gary > >>> > >>>-- > >>> Gary Kline kline@thought.org www.thought.org Public service > >>> > >>> > >>Unix > >> > >> > >>>_______________________________________________ > >>>freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org mailing list > >>>http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-mobile > >>>To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-mobile-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>_______________________________________________ > >>freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org mailing list > >>http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-mobile > >>To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-mobile-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > >> > >> > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-mobile > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-mobile-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" -- Gary Kline kline@thought.org www.thought.org Public service Unix From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jul 28 18:29:18 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DE7DA16A4CE for ; Wed, 28 Jul 2004 18:29:18 +0000 (GMT) Received: from virusproxy.wilkshire.net (virusproxy.wilkshire.net [207.206.44.14]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 3B61943D46 for ; Wed, 28 Jul 2004 18:29:18 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from cody@spintime.org) Received: (qmail 71565 invoked by uid 5020); 28 Jul 2004 18:50:48 -0000 Received: from cody@spintime.org by virusproxy.wilkshire.net by uid 5013 with qmail-scanner-1.22 (clamdscan: 0.71. 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(cody@wilkshire.net@207.206.44.4) by mail.wilkshire.net with SMTP; 28 Jul 2004 18:25:57 -0000 Message-ID: <4107F065.4000100@spintime.org> Date: Wed, 28 Jul 2004 14:28:53 -0400 From: Cody Baker User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 0.6 (Macintosh/20040502) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG References: <20040728051622.GA32519@tao.thought.org> <00f701c47468$517e0290$0400a8c0@victor> <20040728170650.GA65532@tao.thought.org> <4107E095.2000605@spintime.org> <20040728175150.GC65532@tao.thought.org> In-Reply-To: <20040728175150.GC65532@tao.thought.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Thinkpad 600E and 5.2 X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 28 Jul 2004 18:29:19 -0000 Installing 5.2.1 was not a problem from CD-ROM, went very smoothly. Gary, I got a bounce when i tried to reply directly to you. Gary Kline wrote: >On Wed, Jul 28, 2004 at 01:21:25PM -0400, Cody Baker wrote: > > >>I have a Thinkpad 770e (PII 266) with one of the Linksys PCMPC100 >>cards. It does work well in FreeBSD 4.10-stable. Do realize that you >>won't be able to realize true 100MB performance from one of these 16bit >>cards. While we're on the subject though, I can't get anything to work >>in 5.2.1. I continually get these watchdog timeout errors, be it a >>Cardbus card, or a 16bit card like the Linksys. I'm planning on tossing >>-current on it this weekend to see if the problem has already been >>solved there. If anyone has any thoughts I'd appreciate them. >> >>Thank You, >> >>Cody Baker >>cody@spintime.org >>330.934.0659 >> >> >> > > Hmm. Well, if the 770e series iis just an "older version" > of the 600E, then it looks like thw Linksys PCMPC100 is > the way to fly. --100Mb performance isn't that important. > I just finally upgraded my nework from 10 -> 10/100 after > years of working at 10. So long as I'll be able to so > -ports cvsups or stable- cvsups, and share data, speed > isn't a factor. I'll have time for a brew:-) > > Would you kindly keep me posted re your progress with your > experiments? And how did you manage to get 5.2 installed > of your Thinkpad? CDROM? My 5.2.1 CDROM's are months old > but the install disk traps... (?) > > gary > > > > >>Gary Kline wrote: >> >> >> >>>On Wed, Jul 28, 2004 at 10:01:26AM +0400, Victor Bratsev wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>> >>>>You should look at HARDWARE.txt for devices that work with freebsd or ask >>>>about specific device, maybe somebody is using it. >>>> >>>>I've got TP600E with Xircom RE-100 (with some unresolved issues) under >>>>4.7-R >>>>and 4.10-R >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> (Can you describe what your "unresolved issues" are?)... . >>> >>> Good points. It seems to me that any NIC card that works on >>> a laptop should work on a Thinkppad. I'm looking at the >>> 3Com type cards and anything that uses the DEC/Intel 21143 >>> chipset/logic. The Linksys cards have workrd flawlessly >>> on four of my tower systems. >>> >>> According to the 4.8R HARDWARE.txt list there is: >>> >>> * Linksys EC2T/PCMPC100/PCM100, PCMLM56, EtherFast 10/100 PC Card, >>> Combo PCMCIA Ethernet Card (PCMPC100 V2) >>> >>> If anyone on -mobile has one of these on 4.8 or later >>> I'll try one of these. >>> >>> Anybody?? >>> >>> thanks much, >>> >>> gary >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>>>----- Original Message ----- >>>>From: "Gary Kline" >>>>To: "FreeBSD Mobile Mailing List" >>>>Sent: Wednesday, July 28, 2004 9:16 AM >>>>Subject: Thinkpad 600E and 5.2 >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>>Folks, >>>>> >>>>>Many months ago I tried a floppy install of 5.3 on my >>>>>HP Kayak. It poisoned. A few hours ago today I downloaded >>>>>the latest 5.2 floppy set nd booted my ThinkPad 600E. >>>>>The boot *did* see my Xircom Ethernet II adaptor, but the >>>>>kernel poisoned and rebooted after 15 seconds. >>>>> >>>>>Eventually I will be able to use the Xircom. But for now >>>>>it's time to go back to old, STABLE 4.8. Soooo, nutshell, >>>>>what cards will work with my ISDL CAT5 cable in 4.8? I'd like >>>>>the name and model and any other id regarding the card so >>>>>that I get it right next time. >>>>> >>>>>Thanks in advance, guys, >>>>> >>>>>gary >>>>> >>>>>-- >>>>> Gary Kline kline@thought.org www.thought.org Public service >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>Unix >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>>_______________________________________________ >>>>>freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org mailing list >>>>>http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-mobile >>>>>To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-mobile-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>_______________________________________________ >>>>freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org mailing list >>>>http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-mobile >>>>To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-mobile-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> >>_______________________________________________ >>freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org mailing list >>http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-mobile >>To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-mobile-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" >> >> > > > From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jul 28 18:52:37 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B49B316A4CE for ; Wed, 28 Jul 2004 18:52:37 +0000 (GMT) Received: from sage.thought.org (dsl231-043-140.sea1.dsl.speakeasy.net [216.231.43.140]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C5BB443D6A for ; Wed, 28 Jul 2004 18:52:34 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from kline@tao.thought.org) Received: from thought.org (tao [10.0.0.247]) by sage.thought.org (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id i6SIqX0E058589; Wed, 28 Jul 2004 11:52:33 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kline@tao.thought.org) Received: from tao.thought.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by thought.org (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id i6SIqG7s065867; Wed, 28 Jul 2004 11:52:24 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kline@tao.thought.org) Received: (from kline@localhost) by tao.thought.org (8.12.11/8.12.11/Submit) id i6SIqFsc065866; Wed, 28 Jul 2004 11:52:15 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kline) Date: Wed, 28 Jul 2004 11:52:14 -0700 From: Gary Kline To: Cody Baker Message-ID: <20040728185214.GA65844@tao.thought.org> References: <20040728051622.GA32519@tao.thought.org> <00f701c47468$517e0290$0400a8c0@victor> <20040728170650.GA65532@tao.thought.org> <4107E095.2000605@spintime.org> <20040728175150.GC65532@tao.thought.org> <4107F065.4000100@spintime.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <4107F065.4000100@spintime.org> X-Organization: Thought Unlimited. Public service Unix since 1986. X-Of_Interest: Observing 18 years of service to the Unix community User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.6i cc: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Thinkpad 600E and 5.2 X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 28 Jul 2004 18:52:37 -0000 On Wed, Jul 28, 2004 at 02:28:53PM -0400, Cody Baker wrote: > Installing 5.2.1 was not a problem from CD-ROM, went very smoothly. Maybe it's something with my media. I'll 2-check. > > Gary, I got a bounce when i tried to reply directly to you. > Can you send the bounce to me at kline@magnesium.net, if you still have it? I'll check my maillog on NS1.THOUGHT.ORG. This's happened too ofen. thans, gary > > > Gary Kline wrote: > > >On Wed, Jul 28, 2004 at 01:21:25PM -0400, Cody Baker wrote: > > > > > >>I have a Thinkpad 770e (PII 266) with one of the Linksys PCMPC100 > >>cards. It does work well in FreeBSD 4.10-stable. Do realize that you > >>won't be able to realize true 100MB performance from one of these 16bit > >>cards. While we're on the subject though, I can't get anything to work > >>in 5.2.1. I continually get these watchdog timeout errors, be it a > >>Cardbus card, or a 16bit card like the Linksys. I'm planning on tossing > >>-current on it this weekend to see if the problem has already been > >>solved there. If anyone has any thoughts I'd appreciate them. > >> > >>Thank You, > >> > >>Cody Baker > >>cody@spintime.org > >>330.934.0659 > >> > >> > >> > > > > Hmm. Well, if the 770e series iis just an "older version" > > of the 600E, then it looks like thw Linksys PCMPC100 is > > the way to fly. --100Mb performance isn't that important. > > I just finally upgraded my nework from 10 -> 10/100 after > > years of working at 10. So long as I'll be able to so > > -ports cvsups or stable- cvsups, and share data, speed > > isn't a factor. I'll have time for a brew:-) > > > > Would you kindly keep me posted re your progress with your > > experiments? And how did you manage to get 5.2 installed > > of your Thinkpad? CDROM? My 5.2.1 CDROM's are months old > > but the install disk traps... (?) > > > > gary > > > > > > > > > >>Gary Kline wrote: > >> > >> > >> > >>>On Wed, Jul 28, 2004 at 10:01:26AM +0400, Victor Bratsev wrote: > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>>>You should look at HARDWARE.txt for devices that work with freebsd or > >>>>ask > >>>>about specific device, maybe somebody is using it. > >>>> > >>>>I've got TP600E with Xircom RE-100 (with some unresolved issues) under > >>>>4.7-R > >>>>and 4.10-R > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>> (Can you describe what your "unresolved issues" are?)... . > >>> > >>> Good points. It seems to me that any NIC card that works on > >>> a laptop should work on a Thinkppad. I'm looking at the > >>> 3Com type cards and anything that uses the DEC/Intel 21143 > >>> chipset/logic. The Linksys cards have workrd flawlessly > >>> on four of my tower systems. > >>> > >>> According to the 4.8R HARDWARE.txt list there is: > >>> > >>> * Linksys EC2T/PCMPC100/PCM100, PCMLM56, EtherFast 10/100 PC Card, > >>> Combo PCMCIA Ethernet Card (PCMPC100 V2) > >>> > >>> If anyone on -mobile has one of these on 4.8 or later > >>> I'll try one of these. > >>> > >>> Anybody?? > >>> > >>> thanks much, > >>> > >>> gary > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>>>----- Original Message ----- > >>>>From: "Gary Kline" > >>>>To: "FreeBSD Mobile Mailing List" > >>>>Sent: Wednesday, July 28, 2004 9:16 AM > >>>>Subject: Thinkpad 600E and 5.2 > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>>>Folks, > >>>>> > >>>>>Many months ago I tried a floppy install of 5.3 on my > >>>>>HP Kayak. It poisoned. A few hours ago today I downloaded > >>>>>the latest 5.2 floppy set nd booted my ThinkPad 600E. > >>>>>The boot *did* see my Xircom Ethernet II adaptor, but the > >>>>>kernel poisoned and rebooted after 15 seconds. > >>>>> > >>>>>Eventually I will be able to use the Xircom. But for now > >>>>>it's time to go back to old, STABLE 4.8. Soooo, nutshell, > >>>>>what cards will work with my ISDL CAT5 cable in 4.8? I'd like > >>>>>the name and model and any other id regarding the card so > >>>>>that I get it right next time. > >>>>> > >>>>>Thanks in advance, guys, > >>>>> > >>>>>gary > >>>>> > >>>>>-- > >>>>>Gary Kline kline@thought.org www.thought.org Public service > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>Unix > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>>>_______________________________________________ > >>>>>freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org mailing list > >>>>>http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-mobile > >>>>>To unsubscribe, send any mail to > >>>>>"freebsd-mobile-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>_______________________________________________ > >>>>freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org mailing list > >>>>http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-mobile > >>>>To unsubscribe, send any mail to > >>>>"freebsd-mobile-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>_______________________________________________ > >>freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org mailing list > >>http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-mobile > >>To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-mobile-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > >> > >> > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-mobile > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-mobile-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" -- Gary Kline kline@thought.org www.thought.org Public service Unix From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jul 29 00:15:33 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5CBC716A4CE for ; Thu, 29 Jul 2004 00:15:33 +0000 (GMT) Received: from gizmo08ps.bigpond.com (gizmo08ps.bigpond.com [144.140.71.18]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 62F7C43D58 for ; Thu, 29 Jul 2004 00:15:30 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from peter@sandilands.vu) Received: (qmail 23868 invoked from network); 29 Jul 2004 00:15:28 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO psmam07.bigpond.com) (144.135.25.87) by gizmo08ps.bigpond.com with SMTP; 29 Jul 2004 00:15:28 -0000 Received: from cpe-144-136-126-49.nsw.bigpond.net.au ([144.136.126.49]) by psmam07.bigpond.com(MAM REL_3_4_2a 125/15903758) with SMTP id 15903758; Thu, 29 Jul 2004 10:15:28 +1000 From: "Peter Sandilands" To: "Gary Kline" , "Victor Bratsev" Date: Thu, 29 Jul 2004 10:15:16 +1000 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 In-Reply-To: <20040728170650.GA65532@tao.thought.org> cc: FreeBSD Mobile Mailing List Subject: RE: Thinkpad 600E and 5.2 X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: peter@sandilands.vu List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 29 Jul 2004 00:15:33 -0000 I just dug out a TP600E, installed 4.10........ Xircom RE100 - works fine (16 bit card) Xircom RealPort Cardbus Ethernet 10/100-Modem 56 - no go, expected as no cardbus support in 4.x D-Link DFE650 - works fine 3Com Megahertz 3CCFE574BT - works fine The "E" is a 2645-5JA Just FYI these also work in a TP600, TP600X If I use 5.x I need to run OLDCARD but the above cards work there also regards Pete > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org > [mailto:owner-freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org]On Behalf Of Gary Kline > Sent: Thursday, July 29, 2004 3:07 AM > To: Victor Bratsev > Cc: FreeBSD Mobile Mailing List > Subject: Re: Thinkpad 600E and 5.2 > > > On Wed, Jul 28, 2004 at 10:01:26AM +0400, Victor Bratsev wrote: > > You should look at HARDWARE.txt for devices that work > with freebsd or ask > > about specific device, maybe somebody is using it. > > > > I've got TP600E with Xircom RE-100 (with some unresolved > issues) under 4.7-R > > and 4.10-R > > > > (Can you describe what your "unresolved issues" are?)... . > > Good points. It seems to me that any NIC card that works on > a laptop should work on a Thinkppad. I'm looking at the > 3Com type cards and anything that uses the DEC/Intel 21143 > chipset/logic. The Linksys cards have workrd flawlessly > on four of my tower systems. > > According to the 4.8R HARDWARE.txt list there is: > > * Linksys EC2T/PCMPC100/PCM100, PCMLM56, EtherFast > 10/100 PC Card, > Combo PCMCIA Ethernet Card (PCMPC100 V2) > > If anyone on -mobile has one of these on 4.8 or later > I'll try one of these. > > Anybody?? > > thanks much, > > gary > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Gary Kline" > > To: "FreeBSD Mobile Mailing List" > > Sent: Wednesday, July 28, 2004 9:16 AM > > Subject: Thinkpad 600E and 5.2 > > > > > > > > > > Folks, > > > > > > Many months ago I tried a floppy install of 5.3 on my > > > HP Kayak. It poisoned. A few hours ago today I downloaded > > > the latest 5.2 floppy set nd booted my ThinkPad 600E. > > > The boot *did* see my Xircom Ethernet II adaptor, but the > > > kernel poisoned and rebooted after 15 seconds. > > > > > > Eventually I will be able to use the Xircom. But for now > > > it's time to go back to old, STABLE 4.8. Soooo, nutshell, > > > what cards will work with my ISDL CAT5 cable in 4.8? I'd like > > > the name and model and any other id regarding the card so > > > that I get it right next time. > > > > > > Thanks in advance, guys, > > > > > > gary > > > > > > -- > > > Gary Kline kline@thought.org www.thought.org > Public service > > Unix > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org mailing list > > > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-mobile > > > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-mobile-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org mailing list > > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-mobile > > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-mobile-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > -- > Gary Kline kline@thought.org www.thought.org > Public service Unix > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-mobile > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-mobile-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jul 29 00:24:27 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CC57716A4CE for ; Thu, 29 Jul 2004 00:24:27 +0000 (GMT) Received: from postal1.es.net (postal1.es.net [198.128.3.205]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6B28743D5D for ; Thu, 29 Jul 2004 00:24:27 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from oberman@es.net) Received: from ptavv.es.net ([198.128.4.29]) by postal1.es.net (Postal Node 1) with ESMTP (SSL) id IBA74465; Wed, 28 Jul 2004 17:24:25 -0700 Received: from ptavv (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ptavv.es.net (Tachyon Server) with ESMTP id 061055D08; Wed, 28 Jul 2004 17:24:24 -0700 (PDT) To: peter@sandilands.vu In-reply-to: Your message of "Thu, 29 Jul 2004 10:15:16 +1000." Date: Wed, 28 Jul 2004 17:24:23 -0700 From: "Kevin Oberman" Message-Id: <20040729002424.061055D08@ptavv.es.net> cc: Gary Kline cc: Victor Bratsev cc: FreeBSD Mobile Mailing List Subject: Re: Thinkpad 600E and 5.2 X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 29 Jul 2004 00:24:27 -0000 > From: "Peter Sandilands" > Date: Thu, 29 Jul 2004 10:15:16 +1000 > Sender: owner-freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org > > I just dug out a TP600E, installed 4.10........ > > Xircom RE100 - works fine (16 bit card) > Xircom RealPort Cardbus Ethernet 10/100-Modem 56 - no go, expected as > no cardbus support in 4.x > D-Link DFE650 - works fine > 3Com Megahertz 3CCFE574BT - works fine > > The "E" is a 2645-5JA > > Just FYI these also work in a TP600, TP600X > > If I use 5.x I need to run OLDCARD but the above cards work there also This surprises me a bit. I have not booted V5 on my 600E for about a year, but I was running NEWCARD on it at that time. Has something broken? I do belive that I did have to add a sysctl to make NEWCARD work, though, but it supported my CardBus 10/100 Xircom card. Maybe I should try updating to CURRENT and see how it does. -- R. Kevin Oberman, Network Engineer Energy Sciences Network (ESnet) Ernest O. Lawrence Berkeley National Laboratory (Berkeley Lab) E-mail: oberman@es.net Phone: +1 510 486-8634 From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jul 29 00:34:46 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ECA3F16A4CF for ; Thu, 29 Jul 2004 00:34:46 +0000 (GMT) Received: from gizmo05ps.bigpond.com (gizmo05ps.bigpond.com [144.140.71.40]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 1E42143D41 for ; Thu, 29 Jul 2004 00:34:46 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from peter@sandilands.vu) Received: (qmail 12777 invoked from network); 29 Jul 2004 00:34:42 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO psmam07.bigpond.com) (144.135.25.87) by gizmo05ps.bigpond.com with SMTP; 29 Jul 2004 00:34:42 -0000 Received: from cpe-144-136-126-49.nsw.bigpond.net.au ([144.136.126.49]) by psmam07.bigpond.com(MAM REL_3_4_2a 125/15911236) with SMTP id 15911236; Thu, 29 Jul 2004 10:34:41 +1000 From: "Peter Sandilands" To: "Kevin Oberman" Date: Thu, 29 Jul 2004 10:34:30 +1000 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 In-Reply-To: <20040729002424.061055D08@ptavv.es.net> cc: Gary Kline cc: Victor Bratsev cc: FreeBSD Mobile Mailing List Subject: RE: Thinkpad 600E and 5.2 X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: peter@sandilands.vu List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 29 Jul 2004 00:34:47 -0000 > -----Original Message----- > From: Kevin Oberman [mailto:oberman@es.net] > Sent: Thursday, July 29, 2004 10:24 AM > To: peter@sandilands.vu > Cc: Gary Kline; Victor Bratsev; FreeBSD Mobile Mailing List > Subject: Re: Thinkpad 600E and 5.2 > > > > From: "Peter Sandilands" > > Date: Thu, 29 Jul 2004 10:15:16 +1000 > > Sender: owner-freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org > > > > I just dug out a TP600E, installed 4.10........ > > > > Xircom RE100 - works fine (16 bit card) > > Xircom RealPort Cardbus Ethernet 10/100-Modem 56 - no go, > expected as > > no cardbus support in 4.x > > D-Link DFE650 - works fine > > 3Com Megahertz 3CCFE574BT - works fine > > > > The "E" is a 2645-5JA > > > > Just FYI these also work in a TP600, TP600X > > > > If I use 5.x I need to run OLDCARD but the above cards > work there also > > This surprises me a bit. I have not booted V5 on my 600E for about a > year, but I was running NEWCARD on it at that time. Has something > broken? > > I do belive that I did have to add a sysctl to make NEWCARD work, > though, but it supported my CardBus 10/100 Xircom card. I'd be very interested in what the sysctl change was. I've tried 5.1, 5.2, 5.21 and none of them work out of the box with my cards and my TPs (yeah I own a collection :-) ). So I've always just fallen back to using OLDCARD. But I'd like to switch to NEWCARD. Maybe I should do some digging?? Pete From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jul 29 00:56:13 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 028DA16A4CE for ; Thu, 29 Jul 2004 00:56:13 +0000 (GMT) Received: from sage.thought.org (dsl231-043-140.sea1.dsl.speakeasy.net [216.231.43.140]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8C9F443D2F for ; Thu, 29 Jul 2004 00:56:12 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from kline@tao.thought.org) Received: from thought.org (tao [10.0.0.247]) by sage.thought.org (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id i6T0u20E059308; Wed, 28 Jul 2004 17:56:06 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kline@tao.thought.org) Received: from tao.thought.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by thought.org (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id i6T0u0BY066651; Wed, 28 Jul 2004 17:56:01 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kline@tao.thought.org) Received: (from kline@localhost) by tao.thought.org (8.12.11/8.12.11/Submit) id i6T0tuoH066646; Wed, 28 Jul 2004 17:55:56 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kline) Date: Wed, 28 Jul 2004 17:55:55 -0700 From: Gary Kline To: Peter Sandilands Message-ID: <20040729005555.GB66469@tao.thought.org> References: <20040728170650.GA65532@tao.thought.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: X-Organization: Thought Unlimited. Public service Unix since 1986. X-Of_Interest: Observing 18 years of service to the Unix community User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.6i cc: Victor Bratsev cc: FreeBSD Mobile Mailing List Subject: Re: Thinkpad 600E and 5.2 X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 29 Jul 2004 00:56:13 -0000 On Thu, Jul 29, 2004 at 10:15:16AM +1000, Peter Sandilands wrote: > I just dug out a TP600E, installed 4.10........ > > Xircom RE100 - works fine (16 bit card) > Xircom RealPort Cardbus Ethernet 10/100-Modem 56 - no go, expected as > no cardbus support in 4.x > D-Link DFE650 - works fine > 3Com Megahertz 3CCFE574BT - works fine > > The "E" is a 2645-5JA > > Just FYI these also work in a TP600, TP600X Outstanding. > > If I use 5.x I need to run OLDCARD but the above cards work there also Can you explain wht OLDCARD is? I'd like one card that I can transfer, etc.... > > regards > Pete thanks, gary > -- Gary Kline kline@thought.org www.thought.org Public service Unix From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jul 29 01:35:41 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E07D716A4CE for ; Thu, 29 Jul 2004 01:35:41 +0000 (GMT) Received: from gizmo11ps.bigpond.com (gizmo11ps.bigpond.com [144.140.71.21]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 6F62E43D53 for ; Thu, 29 Jul 2004 01:35:40 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from peter@sandilands.vu) Received: (qmail 27060 invoked from network); 29 Jul 2004 01:35:38 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO psmam07.bigpond.com) (144.135.25.87) by gizmo11ps.bigpond.com with SMTP; 29 Jul 2004 01:35:38 -0000 Received: from cpe-144-136-126-49.nsw.bigpond.net.au ([144.136.126.49]) by psmam07.bigpond.com(MAM REL_3_4_2a 125/15935523) with SMTP id 15935523; Thu, 29 Jul 2004 11:35:38 +1000 From: "Peter Sandilands" To: "Gary Kline" , Date: Thu, 29 Jul 2004 11:35:25 +1000 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 In-Reply-To: <20040729005555.GB66469@tao.thought.org> cc: Victor Bratsev cc: FreeBSD Mobile Mailing List Subject: RE: Thinkpad 600E and 5.2 X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: peter@sandilands.vu List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 29 Jul 2004 01:35:42 -0000 > > If I use 5.x I need to run OLDCARD but the above cards > work there also > > Can you explain wht OLDCARD is? I'd like one card that I can > transfer, etc.... 5.x has a new PCMCIA structure - NEWCARD. This adds Cardbus support and I think reworked the pcmcia device architecture quite a bit. OLDCARD is a kernel conf file that replaces the new devices with the device structure out of 4.x. Basically you need to recompile the kernel as per the handbook but use OLDCARD in /usr/src/sys/i386/conf as your starting point. BTW mail direct to your tao.thought.org address is being bounced as spam regards Pete From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jul 29 01:48:00 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 043BB16A4CE for ; Thu, 29 Jul 2004 01:48:00 +0000 (GMT) Received: from spintime.org (mail.spintime.org [207.206.44.110]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 98F4F43D67 for ; Thu, 29 Jul 2004 01:47:59 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from cody@spintime.org) Received: (qmail 17277 invoked by uid 5020); 30 Jul 2004 01:47:18 -0000 Received: from cody@spintime.org by prepbox.spintime.org by uid 0 with qmail-scanner-1.22 (clamdscan: 0.74. Clear:RC:1(198.88.94.84):. Processed in 0.084913 secs); 30 Jul 2004 01:47:18 -0000 Received: from home.spintime.org (HELO ?192.168.1.155?) (spinnah@spintime.org@198.88.94.84) by mail.spintime.org with (DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA encrypted) SMTP; 30 Jul 2004 01:47:17 -0000 Message-ID: <41085749.4000803@spintime.org> Date: Wed, 28 Jul 2004 21:47:53 -0400 From: Cody Baker User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 0.7 (Windows/20040616) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Thinkpad 600E and 5.2 X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 29 Jul 2004 01:48:00 -0000 I looked a few months back, and found this thread. I'm not sure how well they relate, but it does make mention of the error I'm getting, and also a tunable. I haven't the foggiest what I would set that tunable to. http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-mobile/2004-April/003695.html http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-mobile/2004-April/003697.html http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-mobile/2004-April/003698.html http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-mobile/2004-April/003699.html http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-mobile/2004-April/003700.html http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-mobile/2004-April/003706.html http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-mobile/2004-April/003707.html Peter Sandilands wrote: > > >>-----Original Message----- >>From: Kevin Oberman [mailto:oberman@es.net] >>Sent: Thursday, July 29, 2004 10:24 AM >>To: peter@sandilands.vu >>Cc: Gary Kline; Victor Bratsev; FreeBSD Mobile Mailing List >>Subject: Re: Thinkpad 600E and 5.2 >> >> >> >> >>>From: "Peter Sandilands" >>>Date: Thu, 29 Jul 2004 10:15:16 +1000 >>>Sender: owner-freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org >>> >>>I just dug out a TP600E, installed 4.10........ >>> >>>Xircom RE100 - works fine (16 bit card) >>>Xircom RealPort Cardbus Ethernet 10/100-Modem 56 - no go, >>> >>> >> expected as >> >> >>>no cardbus support in 4.x >>>D-Link DFE650 - works fine >>>3Com Megahertz 3CCFE574BT - works fine >>> >>>The "E" is a 2645-5JA >>> >>>Just FYI these also work in a TP600, TP600X >>> >>>If I use 5.x I need to run OLDCARD but the above cards >>> >>> >>work there also >> >>This surprises me a bit. I have not booted V5 on my 600E for about a >>year, but I was running NEWCARD on it at that time. Has something >>broken? >> >>I do belive that I did have to add a sysctl to make NEWCARD work, >>though, but it supported my CardBus 10/100 Xircom card. >> >> > >I'd be very interested in what the sysctl change was. >I've tried 5.1, 5.2, 5.21 and none of them work out of the box with my >cards and my TPs (yeah I own a collection :-) ). >So I've always just fallen back to using OLDCARD. But I'd like to >switch to NEWCARD. > >Maybe I should do some digging?? > >Pete > >_______________________________________________ >freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org mailing list >http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-mobile >To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-mobile-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jul 29 06:00:26 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C89E616A4CE for ; Thu, 29 Jul 2004 06:00:26 +0000 (GMT) Received: from sage.thought.org (dsl231-043-140.sea1.dsl.speakeasy.net [216.231.43.140]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 135AD43D5D for ; Thu, 29 Jul 2004 06:00:26 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from kline@tao.thought.org) Received: from thought.org (tao [10.0.0.247]) by sage.thought.org (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id i6T60EMu059824; Wed, 28 Jul 2004 23:00:17 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kline@tao.thought.org) Received: from tao.thought.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by thought.org (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id i6T60Bfd067051; Wed, 28 Jul 2004 23:00:12 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kline@tao.thought.org) Received: (from kline@localhost) by tao.thought.org (8.12.11/8.12.11/Submit) id i6T608TA067050; Wed, 28 Jul 2004 23:00:08 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kline) Date: Wed, 28 Jul 2004 23:00:05 -0700 From: Gary Kline To: Peter Sandilands Message-ID: <20040729060005.GC66469@tao.thought.org> References: <20040729005555.GB66469@tao.thought.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: X-Organization: Thought Unlimited. Public service Unix since 1986. X-Of_Interest: Observing 18 years of service to the Unix community User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.6i cc: Victor Bratsev cc: kline@magnesium.net cc: FreeBSD Mobile Mailing List Subject: Re: Thinkpad 600E and 5.2 X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 29 Jul 2004 06:00:27 -0000 On Thu, Jul 29, 2004 at 11:35:25AM +1000, Peter Sandilands wrote: > > > If I use 5.x I need to run OLDCARD but the above cards > > work there also > > > > Can you explain wht OLDCARD is? I'd like one card that I can > > transfer, etc.... > > 5.x has a new PCMCIA structure - NEWCARD. This adds Cardbus support > and I think reworked the pcmcia device architecture quite a bit. > OLDCARD is a kernel conf file that replaces the new devices with the > device structure out of 4.x. > Basically you need to recompile the kernel as per the handbook but use > OLDCARD in /usr/src/sys/i386/conf as your starting point. In otherworlds it's # make buildkernel installkernel KERNEL=OLDCARD or something else? I found the OLDCARD file, no NEWCARD. (i guess i'll find out if it's generatd...) > > BTW mail direct to your tao.thought.org address is being bounced as > spam Yeah, I junt messed with /etc/mail on sage/ns1, but thanks to Cody's forwarding his bounce to me at magnesium, looks like my /etc/mail/access[.db] here on tao was amiss. Should be fixed. {I-hope,I-hope} gary > -- Gary Kline kline@thought.org www.thought.org Public service Unix From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jul 29 06:32:55 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 629E016A4CE for ; Thu, 29 Jul 2004 06:32:55 +0000 (GMT) Received: from gizmo02ps.bigpond.com (gizmo02ps.bigpond.com [144.140.71.12]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 2064E43D46 for ; Thu, 29 Jul 2004 06:32:54 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from peter@sandilands.vu) Received: (qmail 32744 invoked from network); 29 Jul 2004 06:32:44 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO psmam06.bigpond.com) (144.135.25.84) by gizmo02ps.bigpond.com with SMTP; 29 Jul 2004 06:32:44 -0000 Received: from cpe-144-136-114-229.nsw.bigpond.net.au ([144.136.114.229]) by psmam06.bigpond.com(MAM REL_3_4_2a 116/17571292) with SMTP id 17571292; Thu, 29 Jul 2004 16:32:44 +1000 From: "Peter Sandilands" To: "Gary Kline" Date: Thu, 29 Jul 2004 16:32:31 +1000 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 In-Reply-To: <20040729060005.GC66469@tao.thought.org> cc: kline@magnesium.net cc: FreeBSD Mobile Mailing List Subject: RE: Thinkpad 600E and 5.2 X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: peter@sandilands.vu List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 29 Jul 2004 06:32:55 -0000 > > Basically you need to recompile the kernel as per the > handbook but use > > OLDCARD in /usr/src/sys/i386/conf as your starting point. > > In otherworlds it's > > # make buildkernel installkernel KERNEL=OLDCARD > > or something else? I found the OLDCARD file, no > NEWCARD. (i guess i'll find out if it's generatd...) Too complicated ....... I just do the kernel build. Copy GENERIC to TEST (say), edit the options you normally do, Copy OLDCARD to TEST1 and edit to include TEST (you'll see where in the file) run /usr/sbin/config TEST1, then cd as directed, do make depend, make and make install In ?etc/rc.conf add pccard_enable="YES", reboot and you should be laughing > > > > BTW mail direct to your tao.thought.org address is being > bounced as > > spam > > > Yeah, I junt messed with /etc/mail on sage/ns1, but thanks > to Cody's forwarding his bounce to me at magnesium, looks > like my /etc/mail/access[.db] here on tao was amiss. > Should be fixed. {I-hope,I-hope} see what happens with this mail Pete From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jul 29 11:59:51 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BC30B16A4CE for ; Thu, 29 Jul 2004 11:59:51 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtp.masterhost.ru (smtp.masterhost.ru [217.16.16.82]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 732B343D55 for ; Thu, 29 Jul 2004 11:59:50 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from vbratsev@apt-telecom.ru) Received: (qmail 60014 invoked from network); 29 Jul 2004 11:58:58 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO victor) (vbratsev@apt-telecom.ru@213.208.181.214) by smtp.masterhost.ru with SMTP; 29 Jul 2004 11:58:58 -0000 Message-ID: <023b01c47563$78a248d0$0400a8c0@victor> From: "Victor Bratsev" To: "FreeBSD Mobile Mailing List" References: <20040728051622.GA32519@tao.thought.org> <00f701c47468$517e0290$0400a8c0@victor> <20040728170650.GA65532@tao.thought.org> Date: Thu, 29 Jul 2004 15:59:15 +0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4807.1700 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4910.0300 Subject: Re: Thinkpad 600E and 5.2 X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 29 Jul 2004 11:59:51 -0000 Sorry for delay. My unresolved problems are "watchdog timeout; resetting card" and unreachability of the host from network and network from the host. I don't understand what it means so I silly trying what is coming in my head: ifconfig-down/ifconfig-up aren't help as removing/inserting of a card. One technic is helping - "nmap -P0 " :)) so as reboot :(( I give it up while I'll have some time to knew about watchdogs and try to resolve it. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gary Kline" To: "Victor Bratsev" Cc: "FreeBSD Mobile Mailing List" Sent: Wednesday, July 28, 2004 9:06 PM Subject: Re: Thinkpad 600E and 5.2 > On Wed, Jul 28, 2004 at 10:01:26AM +0400, Victor Bratsev wrote: > > You should look at HARDWARE.txt for devices that work with freebsd or ask > > about specific device, maybe somebody is using it. > > > > I've got TP600E with Xircom RE-100 (with some unresolved issues) under 4.7-R > > and 4.10-R > > > > (Can you describe what your "unresolved issues" are?)... . > > Good points. It seems to me that any NIC card that works on > a laptop should work on a Thinkppad. I'm looking at the > 3Com type cards and anything that uses the DEC/Intel 21143 > chipset/logic. The Linksys cards have workrd flawlessly > on four of my tower systems. > > According to the 4.8R HARDWARE.txt list there is: > > * Linksys EC2T/PCMPC100/PCM100, PCMLM56, EtherFast 10/100 PC Card, > Combo PCMCIA Ethernet Card (PCMPC100 V2) > > If anyone on -mobile has one of these on 4.8 or later > I'll try one of these. > > Anybody?? > > thanks much, > > gary > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Gary Kline" > > To: "FreeBSD Mobile Mailing List" > > Sent: Wednesday, July 28, 2004 9:16 AM > > Subject: Thinkpad 600E and 5.2 > > > > > > > > > > Folks, > > > > > > Many months ago I tried a floppy install of 5.3 on my > > > HP Kayak. It poisoned. A few hours ago today I downloaded > > > the latest 5.2 floppy set nd booted my ThinkPad 600E. > > > The boot *did* see my Xircom Ethernet II adaptor, but the > > > kernel poisoned and rebooted after 15 seconds. > > > > > > Eventually I will be able to use the Xircom. But for now > > > it's time to go back to old, STABLE 4.8. Soooo, nutshell, > > > what cards will work with my ISDL CAT5 cable in 4.8? I'd like > > > the name and model and any other id regarding the card so > > > that I get it right next time. > > > > > > Thanks in advance, guys, > > > > > > gary > > > > > > -- > > > Gary Kline kline@thought.org www.thought.org Public service > > Unix > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org mailing list > > > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-mobile > > > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-mobile-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org mailing list > > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-mobile > > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-mobile-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > -- > Gary Kline kline@thought.org www.thought.org Public service Unix > > From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jul 29 15:31:48 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0265B16A4CE for ; Thu, 29 Jul 2004 15:31:48 +0000 (GMT) Received: from broad.100mwh.com (broad.100mwh.com [205.214.86.31]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B13D843D3F for ; Thu, 29 Jul 2004 15:31:47 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from rseals@vdsi.net) Received: from aqua.magellanhealth.com ([204.193.75.20] helo=[10.200.10.14]) by broad.100mwh.com with asmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1BqCsY-0001Eq-FG; Thu, 29 Jul 2004 10:31:12 -0500 From: Ray Seals To: "Michael W. Oliver" In-Reply-To: <20040725002730.GA69069@gargantuan.com> References: <20040725002730.GA69069@gargantuan.com> Content-Type: text/plain Message-Id: <1091115088.583.4.camel@mgl.magellanhealth.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Ximian Evolution 1.4.5 Date: Thu, 29 Jul 2004 10:31:29 -0500 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - broad.100mwh.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - freebsd.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - vdsi.net X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: cc: FreeBSD Mobile Subject: Re: new laptop suggestions - not the usual stuff X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 29 Jul 2004 15:31:48 -0000 On Sat, 2004-07-24 at 19:27, Michael W. Oliver wrote: > Ok folks, I know that this comes up from time to time, and I know very > well the FreeBSD laptop compatibility list (which rocks!), but I think > this case is different, and here's why. > > I am looking for a new laptop that has the following features: > > 1) pointing stick in keyboard *THIS IS A MUST* > 2) AMD64 proc I purchased an e-machines laptop and had serious cooling problems with my AMD64 and FreeBSD. It would only run for about an hour before it shutdown due to heating issues. I was unable to control the fan using various suggestions from the Questions list. Just be aware that the BIOS on the laptop my not let you cool things properly. I loved the machine and it was fast, had a big screen. But I had to give it to my wife to use (Windows XP). I only run FreeBSD on my machines. -- Ray Seals From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jul 29 17:08:48 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 90C4316A4CE for ; Thu, 29 Jul 2004 17:08:48 +0000 (GMT) Received: from sage.thought.org (dsl231-043-140.sea1.dsl.speakeasy.net [216.231.43.140]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BB7C643D46 for ; Thu, 29 Jul 2004 17:08:47 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from kline@tao.thought.org) Received: from thought.org (tao [10.0.0.247]) by sage.thought.org (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id i6TH8kMu061357 for ; Thu, 29 Jul 2004 10:08:46 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kline@tao.thought.org) Received: from tao.thought.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by thought.org (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id i6TH8jUW000319 for ; Thu, 29 Jul 2004 10:08:45 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kline@tao.thought.org) Received: (from kline@localhost) by tao.thought.org (8.12.11/8.12.11/Submit) id i6TH8igB000314 for freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org; Thu, 29 Jul 2004 10:08:44 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kline) Date: Thu, 29 Jul 2004 10:08:44 -0700 From: Gary Kline To: FreeBSD Mobile Mailing List Message-ID: <20040729170844.GA187@tao.thought.org> References: <20040729002424.061055D08@ptavv.es.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20040729002424.061055D08@ptavv.es.net> X-Organization: Thought Unlimited. Public service Unix since 1986. X-Of_Interest: Observing 18 years of service to the Unix community User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.6i Subject: Re: Thinkpad 600E and 5.2 X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 29 Jul 2004 17:08:48 -0000 Closer. After I rebuild the kernel with target OLDCARD, and rebooted (withh Xircom Ethernet II 10/100 inserted, no more kernel traps. I added pccard_ether xe0 start link0 to rc.conf and rebooted. Zero. The cabling is solid. The defaultrouter="10.0.0.1" entry doesn't seem to have any effect. I set get the "Setup PC-CARD" message when coming up. How do I get into this setup? Am I missing some sysctl cmd? Anything else? gary -- Gary Kline kline@thought.org www.thought.org Public service Unix From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jul 29 18:29:46 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B7A2916A4CE for ; Thu, 29 Jul 2004 18:29:46 +0000 (GMT) Received: from postal3.es.net (postal3.es.net [198.128.3.207]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A159543D39 for ; Thu, 29 Jul 2004 18:29:46 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from oberman@es.net) Received: from ptavv.es.net ([198.128.4.29]) by postal3.es.net (Postal Node 3) with ESMTP (SSL) id IBA74465; Thu, 29 Jul 2004 11:29:22 -0700 Received: from ptavv (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ptavv.es.net (Tachyon Server) with ESMTP id 470275D08; Thu, 29 Jul 2004 11:29:22 -0700 (PDT) To: peter@sandilands.vu In-reply-to: Your message of "Thu, 29 Jul 2004 10:34:30 +1000." Date: Thu, 29 Jul 2004 11:29:22 -0700 From: "Kevin Oberman" Message-Id: <20040729182922.470275D08@ptavv.es.net> cc: Gary Kline cc: Victor Bratsev cc: FreeBSD Mobile Mailing List Subject: Re: Thinkpad 600E and 5.2 X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 29 Jul 2004 18:29:46 -0000 > From: "Peter Sandilands" > Date: Thu, 29 Jul 2004 10:34:30 +1000 > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Kevin Oberman [mailto:oberman@es.net] > > Sent: Thursday, July 29, 2004 10:24 AM > > To: peter@sandilands.vu > > Cc: Gary Kline; Victor Bratsev; FreeBSD Mobile Mailing List > > Subject: Re: Thinkpad 600E and 5.2 > > > > > > > From: "Peter Sandilands" > > > Date: Thu, 29 Jul 2004 10:15:16 +1000 > > > Sender: owner-freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org > > > > > > I just dug out a TP600E, installed 4.10........ > > > > > > Xircom RE100 - works fine (16 bit card) > > > Xircom RealPort Cardbus Ethernet 10/100-Modem 56 - no go, > > expected as > > > no cardbus support in 4.x > > > D-Link DFE650 - works fine > > > 3Com Megahertz 3CCFE574BT - works fine > > > > > > The "E" is a 2645-5JA > > > > > > Just FYI these also work in a TP600, TP600X > > > > > > If I use 5.x I need to run OLDCARD but the above cards > > work there also > > > > This surprises me a bit. I have not booted V5 on my 600E for about a > > year, but I was running NEWCARD on it at that time. Has something > > broken? > > > > I do belive that I did have to add a sysctl to make NEWCARD work, > > though, but it supported my CardBus 10/100 Xircom card. > > I'd be very interested in what the sysctl change was. > I've tried 5.1, 5.2, 5.21 and none of them work out of the box with my > cards and my TPs (yeah I own a collection :-) ). > So I've always just fallen back to using OLDCARD. But I'd like to > switch to NEWCARD. > > Maybe I should do some digging?? I just fired up my 600E. It's running 5.2-BETA from Dec. of last year. Something my have broken since then, but I get NEWCARD to work with the following in /boot/loader.conf: hw.cbb.start_memory="0x20000000" hw.pci.allow_unsupported_io_range="1" My kernel config is: device cbb device pccard device cardbus It was not happy with ACPI, so I am running APM. My Xircom card seems quite happy there. -- R. Kevin Oberman, Network Engineer Energy Sciences Network (ESnet) Ernest O. Lawrence Berkeley National Laboratory (Berkeley Lab) E-mail: oberman@es.net Phone: +1 510 486-8634 From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jul 29 18:57:31 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2A4FE16A4D0 for ; Thu, 29 Jul 2004 18:57:31 +0000 (GMT) Received: from web90108.mail.scd.yahoo.com (web90108.mail.scd.yahoo.com [66.218.94.79]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 0379643D1D for ; Thu, 29 Jul 2004 18:57:31 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from freemandyson2001@yahoo.com) Message-ID: <20040729185705.31943.qmail@web90108.mail.scd.yahoo.com> Received: from [198.145.31.2] by web90108.mail.scd.yahoo.com via HTTP; Thu, 29 Jul 2004 11:57:05 PDT Date: Thu, 29 Jul 2004 11:57:05 -0700 (PDT) From: freeman dyson To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org, freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Subject: 5.2.1 with Linksys WPC54G & NDIS project evil... X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 29 Jul 2004 18:57:31 -0000 Hi all, I'm Running FreeBSD 5.2.1-RELEASE on a Dell Latitude. I have a Linksys WPC54G. I've gotten the sys/compat/ndis stuff and compiled and installed it according to these instructions: http://www.freebsddiary.org/ibm-thinkpad-t41.php I'm currently at the O'Reilly open source conference, which has a huge wireless network, and tons of users. the card works fine on their network in my room. when I'm downstairs in the sessions ( where all the other people are too ), I get an IP address from the dhcp server ( on the right network ), but I can't ping anything, or connect to any machine. I can see traffic ( via tcpdump ). also wicontrol behaves funny ( strange data output ). should I also update ifconfig & wicontrol to current? also, it doesn't let me switch channels using "ifconfig ndis0 channel 8" My windows drive works fine ( slow, but it works ) with this card. I've turned all the debugging on via sysctl, and when I plug the card in, there doesn't appear to be any errors. and when I do a dhclient, I get "ndis0 link up". when I get back up to my room, I'll boot up to FreeBSD and reply with more detailed info. anyone have any sugesstions? thanks, -freeman __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Read only the mail you want - Yahoo! Mail SpamGuard. http://promotions.yahoo.com/new_mail From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jul 29 19:05:59 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E5D8416A4CE; Thu, 29 Jul 2004 19:05:59 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mp2.macomnet.net (mp2.macomnet.net [195.128.64.6]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2E12043D69; Thu, 29 Jul 2004 19:05:59 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from maxim@macomnet.ru) Received-SPF: pass (mp2.macomnet.net: domain of maxim@macomnet.ru designates 127.0.0.1 as permitted sender) receiver=mp2.macomnet.net; client_ip=127.0.0.1; envelope-from=maxim@macomnet.ru; Received: from localhost (wlbcd4mt@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mp2.macomnet.net (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id i6TJ5ZlE005635; Thu, 29 Jul 2004 23:05:35 +0400 (MSD) (envelope-from maxim@macomnet.ru) Date: Thu, 29 Jul 2004 23:05:35 +0400 (MSD) From: Maxim Konovalov To: freeman dyson In-Reply-To: <20040729185705.31943.qmail@web90108.mail.scd.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <20040729230242.O5629@mp2.macomnet.net> References: <20040729185705.31943.qmail@web90108.mail.scd.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII cc: freebsd-current@freebsd.org cc: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Subject: Re: 5.2.1 with Linksys WPC54G & NDIS project evil... X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 29 Jul 2004 19:06:00 -0000 On Thu, 29 Jul 2004, 11:57-0700, freeman dyson wrote: > > Hi all, > > I'm Running FreeBSD 5.2.1-RELEASE on a Dell Latitude. > I have a Linksys WPC54G. I've gotten the > sys/compat/ndis stuff and compiled and installed it > according to these instructions: > http://www.freebsddiary.org/ibm-thinkpad-t41.php [...] > anyone have any sugesstions? I see no problems with WPC64G and ath(4) on my sony v505bx. Yes, it is -CURRENT, not sure about 5.2.1-R. -- Maxim Konovalov From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jul 29 19:21:40 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AA7B516A4D2 for ; Thu, 29 Jul 2004 19:21:40 +0000 (GMT) Received: from web90103.mail.scd.yahoo.com (web90103.mail.scd.yahoo.com [66.218.94.74]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 7DC3443D2D for ; Thu, 29 Jul 2004 19:21:40 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from freemandyson2001@yahoo.com) Message-ID: <20040729192134.95608.qmail@web90103.mail.scd.yahoo.com> Received: from [198.145.31.2] by web90103.mail.scd.yahoo.com via HTTP; Thu, 29 Jul 2004 12:21:34 PDT Date: Thu, 29 Jul 2004 12:21:34 -0700 (PDT) From: freeman dyson To: Maxim Konovalov In-Reply-To: <20040729230242.O5629@mp2.macomnet.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii cc: freebsd-current@freebsd.org cc: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Subject: Re: 5.2.1 with Linksys WPC54G & NDIS project evil... X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 29 Jul 2004 19:21:40 -0000 aah, well, I'd love to use the ath driver, but I can't get it to recognize it... I can't find the right "magic" for pccardd.conf .... did you have to tweak it somehow? or did it "just work" ? thanks. --- Maxim Konovalov wrote: > On Thu, 29 Jul 2004, 11:57-0700, freeman dyson > wrote: > > > > Hi all, > > > > I'm Running FreeBSD 5.2.1-RELEASE on a Dell > Latitude. > > I have a Linksys WPC54G. I've gotten the > > sys/compat/ndis stuff and compiled and installed > it > > according to these instructions: > > http://www.freebsddiary.org/ibm-thinkpad-t41.php > > [...] > > anyone have any sugesstions? > > I see no problems with WPC64G and ath(4) on my sony > v505bx. Yes, it > is -CURRENT, not sure about 5.2.1-R. > > -- > Maxim Konovalov > __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? New and Improved Yahoo! Mail - Send 10MB messages! http://promotions.yahoo.com/new_mail From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jul 29 19:27:24 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5D03316A4CF for ; Thu, 29 Jul 2004 19:27:24 +0000 (GMT) Received: from www.kukulies.org (www.kukulies.org [213.146.112.180]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7F62D43D5D for ; Thu, 29 Jul 2004 19:27:23 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from kuku@www.kukulies.org) Received: from www.kukulies.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by www.kukulies.org (8.12.11/8.12.10) with ESMTP id i6TJRC67011412 for ; Thu, 29 Jul 2004 21:27:13 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from kuku@www.kukulies.org) Received: (from kuku@localhost) by www.kukulies.org (8.12.11/8.12.10/Submit) id i6TJRCkk011411 for freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org; Thu, 29 Jul 2004 21:27:12 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from kuku) Date: Thu, 29 Jul 2004 21:27:12 +0200 (CEST) From: Christoph Kukulies Message-Id: <200407291927.i6TJRCkk011411@www.kukulies.org> To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Subject: tablet PC and FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 29 Jul 2004 19:27:24 -0000 Any recommendable tablet PC for FreeBSD? -- Chris Christoph P. U. Kukulies kuku_at_kukulies.org From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jul 29 19:33:01 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2296616A4CF for ; Thu, 29 Jul 2004 19:33:01 +0000 (GMT) Received: from sage.thought.org (dsl231-043-140.sea1.dsl.speakeasy.net [216.231.43.140]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9799D43D41 for ; Thu, 29 Jul 2004 19:33:00 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from kline@tao.thought.org) Received: from thought.org (tao [10.0.0.247]) by sage.thought.org (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id i6TJWV3C061689; Thu, 29 Jul 2004 12:32:32 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kline@tao.thought.org) Received: from tao.thought.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by thought.org (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id i6TJWUJV000745; Thu, 29 Jul 2004 12:32:30 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kline@tao.thought.org) Received: (from kline@localhost) by tao.thought.org (8.12.11/8.12.11/Submit) id i6TJWGpa000744; Thu, 29 Jul 2004 12:32:16 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kline) Date: Thu, 29 Jul 2004 12:32:15 -0700 From: Gary Kline To: Kevin Oberman Message-ID: <20040729193215.GA599@tao.thought.org> References: <20040729182922.470275D08@ptavv.es.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20040729182922.470275D08@ptavv.es.net> X-Organization: Thought Unlimited. Public service Unix since 1986. X-Of_Interest: Observing 18 years of service to the Unix community User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.6i cc: peter@sandilands.vu cc: Victor Bratsev cc: FreeBSD Mobile Mailing List Subject: Re: Thinkpad 600E and 5.2 X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 29 Jul 2004 19:33:01 -0000 On Thu, Jul 29, 2004 at 11:29:22AM -0700, Kevin Oberman wrote: > > From: "Peter Sandilands" > > Date: Thu, 29 Jul 2004 10:34:30 +1000 > > [ ... ] > > I just fired up my 600E. It's running 5.2-BETA from Dec. of last year. > Something my have broken since then, but I get NEWCARD to work with the > following in /boot/loader.conf: hw.cbb.start_memory="0x20000000" > hw.pci.allow_unsupported_io_range="1" > > My kernel config is: > device cbb > device pccard > device cardbus > > It was not happy with ACPI, so I am running APM. > > My Xircom card seems quite happy there. A couple of questons. First, we are prob'ly running a similar 5.2; none of the files in my KERNEL conf directory is older that early Dec., '03. Where is the NEWCARD file? Should my Xircom be recognized once I rebuild the GENERIC kernel? I see that what you have as ^define targets and nodefines in OLDCARD. gary -- Gary Kline kline@thought.org www.thought.org Public service Unix From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jul 29 19:36:24 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D686516A4CE; Thu, 29 Jul 2004 19:36:24 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mp2.macomnet.net (mp2.macomnet.net [195.128.64.6]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1E70243D62; Thu, 29 Jul 2004 19:36:24 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from maxim@macomnet.ru) Received-SPF: pass (mp2.macomnet.net: domain of maxim@macomnet.ru designates 127.0.0.1 as permitted sender) receiver=mp2.macomnet.net; client_ip=127.0.0.1; envelope-from=maxim@macomnet.ru; Received: from localhost (3f9bom99@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mp2.macomnet.net (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id i6TJaKma005774; Thu, 29 Jul 2004 23:36:20 +0400 (MSD) (envelope-from maxim@macomnet.ru) Date: Thu, 29 Jul 2004 23:36:20 +0400 (MSD) From: Maxim Konovalov To: freeman dyson In-Reply-To: <20040729192134.95608.qmail@web90103.mail.scd.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <20040729233437.F5753@mp2.macomnet.net> References: <20040729192134.95608.qmail@web90103.mail.scd.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII cc: freebsd-current@freebsd.org cc: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Subject: Re: 5.2.1 with Linksys WPC54G & NDIS project evil... X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 29 Jul 2004 19:36:25 -0000 On Thu, 29 Jul 2004, 12:21-0700, freeman dyson wrote: > > aah, well, I'd love to use the ath driver, but I can't > get it to recognize it... I can't find the right > "magic" for pccardd.conf .... did you have to tweak > it somehow? or did it "just work" ? Just works. The kernel config is almost generic. -- Maxim Konovalov From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jul 29 19:50:34 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B9C6416A5A5 for ; Thu, 29 Jul 2004 19:50:33 +0000 (GMT) Received: from hotmail.com (sea1-f46.sea1.hotmail.com [207.68.163.46]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 19E7343D2F for ; Thu, 29 Jul 2004 19:50:31 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from tpen0010@hotmail.com) Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Thu, 29 Jul 2004 12:50:18 -0700 Received: from 207.237.44.20 by sea1fd.sea1.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Thu, 29 Jul 2004 19:50:18 GMT X-Originating-IP: [207.237.44.20] X-Originating-Email: [tpen0010@hotmail.com] X-Sender: tpen0010@hotmail.com From: "Michael Roberts" To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Date: Thu, 29 Jul 2004 15:50:18 -0400 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 29 Jul 2004 19:50:18.0662 (UTC) FILETIME=[46887C60:01C475A5] Subject: DLink DWL-G650 (h/w ver. B4) X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 29 Jul 2004 19:50:35 -0000 Greetings, I got DLink DWL-G650 (h/w ver. B4) pc-card recently, which is supposed to run 802.11g using the atheros drivers. However, I've been trying to get it to work for the past three days w/o success. Other people on this list claim to have gotten it working, so any help would be much appreciated. My setup is: -current (from early July) on a Dell 8600, running a Broadcom ethernet interface on bfe0, and a kernel recompiled with "device ath" and "device ath_hal". When I put the Dlink card in, i get the following: cardbus0: Resource not specified in CIS: id=10, size=2000 bfe1: < Broadcom ... > irq 11 at device 0.0 on cardbus0 bfe1: BUG! Timeout waiting for bit 00000002 of register 42C to clear bfe1: MII without any PHY! device_attach: bfe1 attach returned 6 cbb0: Cardbus activation failed. Then a few seconds later I get something like bfe0: BUG! Timeout waiting for bit 00000002 of register 42C about 6 times, and then the computer freezes. The above line is not the exact output, since after the computer freezes, I can't copy the text (clearly..). Now, the above is strange because the card should be picked up by an atheros driver, not the bfe driver (note that bfe0 is my internal ethernet card, and the above is trying to assign the pccard to bfe1). I've tryed putting in hw.pccard.debug=1 and cis_debug=1, however the computer freezes before I get any output from those. I've read in other posts on the lists that the "Resource not specified" line is some sort of resource management issue, but no one has specified how to fix it. And that doesn't seem to address the other issue that the card isn't recognized by the atheros driver. So... I'm at a loss as to what to do. Any help would be much appreciated. regards, Mike _________________________________________________________________ FREE pop-up blocking with the new MSN Toolbar – get it now! http://toolbar.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200415ave/direct/01/ From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jul 29 19:57:45 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5B2FF16A4D0 for ; Thu, 29 Jul 2004 19:57:45 +0000 (GMT) Received: from postal1.es.net (postal1.es.net [198.128.3.205]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 379DC43D5A for ; Thu, 29 Jul 2004 19:57:45 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from oberman@es.net) Received: from ptavv.es.net ([198.128.4.29]) by postal1.es.net (Postal Node 1) with ESMTP (SSL) id IBA74465; Thu, 29 Jul 2004 12:57:40 -0700 Received: from ptavv (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ptavv.es.net (Tachyon Server) with ESMTP id D5D045D08; Thu, 29 Jul 2004 12:57:39 -0700 (PDT) To: Gary Kline In-reply-to: Your message of "Thu, 29 Jul 2004 12:32:15 PDT." <20040729193215.GA599@tao.thought.org> Date: Thu, 29 Jul 2004 12:57:39 -0700 From: "Kevin Oberman" Message-Id: <20040729195739.D5D045D08@ptavv.es.net> cc: peter@sandilands.vu cc: Victor Bratsev cc: FreeBSD Mobile Mailing List Subject: Re: Thinkpad 600E and 5.2 X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 29 Jul 2004 19:57:45 -0000 > Date: Thu, 29 Jul 2004 12:32:15 -0700 > From: Gary Kline > > On Thu, Jul 29, 2004 at 11:29:22AM -0700, Kevin Oberman wrote: > > > From: "Peter Sandilands" > > > Date: Thu, 29 Jul 2004 10:34:30 +1000 > > > > [ ... ] > > > > > I just fired up my 600E. It's running 5.2-BETA from Dec. of last year. > > Something my have broken since then, but I get NEWCARD to work with the > > following in /boot/loader.conf: hw.cbb.start_memory="0x20000000" > > hw.pci.allow_unsupported_io_range="1" > > > > My kernel config is: > > device cbb > > device pccard > > device cardbus > > > > It was not happy with ACPI, so I am running APM. > > > > My Xircom card seems quite happy there. > > > A couple of questons. First, we are prob'ly running a similar > 5.2; none of the files in my KERNEL conf directory is older > that early Dec., '03. Where is the NEWCARD file? Should my > Xircom be recognized once I rebuild the GENERIC kernel? > I see that what you have as ^define targets and nodefines in > OLDCARD. There is no "NEWCARD" file. GENERIC is NEWCARD. The config lines I included result in a NEWCARD kernel. OLDCARD uses pcic and card while GENERIC uses cbb, cardbus, and pccard. The dmesg should contain entries for 2 each cbb, cardbus, and pccard devices. The actual Ethernet device will be way down the dmesg from the other stuff. -- R. Kevin Oberman, Network Engineer Energy Sciences Network (ESnet) Ernest O. Lawrence Berkeley National Laboratory (Berkeley Lab) E-mail: oberman@es.net Phone: +1 510 486-8634 From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jul 29 20:25:02 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A400416A4CE for ; Thu, 29 Jul 2004 20:25:02 +0000 (GMT) Received: from sage.thought.org (dsl231-043-140.sea1.dsl.speakeasy.net [216.231.43.140]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EBC3343D49 for ; Thu, 29 Jul 2004 20:25:01 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from kline@tao.thought.org) Received: from thought.org (tao [10.0.0.247]) by sage.thought.org (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id i6TKOj3C061786; Thu, 29 Jul 2004 13:24:46 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kline@tao.thought.org) Received: from tao.thought.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by thought.org (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id i6TKOhWM000886; Thu, 29 Jul 2004 13:24:44 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kline@tao.thought.org) Received: (from kline@localhost) by tao.thought.org (8.12.11/8.12.11/Submit) id i6TKOdpK000885; Thu, 29 Jul 2004 13:24:39 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kline) Date: Thu, 29 Jul 2004 13:24:38 -0700 From: Gary Kline To: Kevin Oberman Message-ID: <20040729202438.GA855@tao.thought.org> References: <20040729193215.GA599@tao.thought.org> <20040729195739.D5D045D08@ptavv.es.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20040729195739.D5D045D08@ptavv.es.net> X-Organization: Thought Unlimited. Public service Unix since 1986. X-Of_Interest: Observing 18 years of service to the Unix community User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.6i cc: peter@sandilands.vu cc: Victor Bratsev cc: FreeBSD Mobile Mailing List Subject: Re: Thinkpad 600E and 5.2 X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 29 Jul 2004 20:25:02 -0000 On Thu, Jul 29, 2004 at 12:57:39PM -0700, Kevin Oberman wrote: > > Date: Thu, 29 Jul 2004 12:32:15 -0700 > > From: Gary Kline > > > > On Thu, Jul 29, 2004 at 11:29:22AM -0700, Kevin Oberman wrote: > > > > From: "Peter Sandilands" > > > > Date: Thu, 29 Jul 2004 10:34:30 +1000 > > > > > > [ ... ] > > > > > > > > I just fired up my 600E. It's running 5.2-BETA from Dec. of last year. > > > Something my have broken since then, but I get NEWCARD to work with the > > > following in /boot/loader.conf: hw.cbb.start_memory="0x20000000" > > > hw.pci.allow_unsupported_io_range="1" > > > > > > My kernel config is: > > > device cbb > > > device pccard > > > device cardbus > > > > > > It was not happy with ACPI, so I am running APM. > > > > > > My Xircom card seems quite happy there. > > > > > > A couple of questons. First, we are prob'ly running a similar > > 5.2; none of the files in my KERNEL conf directory is older > > that early Dec., '03. Where is the NEWCARD file? Should my > > Xircom be recognized once I rebuild the GENERIC kernel? > > I see that what you have as ^define targets and nodefines in > > OLDCARD. > > There is no "NEWCARD" file. GENERIC is NEWCARD. The config lines I > included result in a NEWCARD kernel. OLDCARD uses pcic and card while > GENERIC uses cbb, cardbus, and pccard. The dmesg should contain entries > for 2 each cbb, cardbus, and pccard devices. The actual Ethernet device > will be way down the dmesg from the other stuff. Thanks for clarifying. I'm about 45 minutes into a rebuild with KERCONF=GENERIC. I should know fairly soon; will post further comments|queries in a few hours. when did lbl become es.net? i worked at llnl for a few years and thought all the labs were .gov. gary -- Gary Kline kline@thought.org www.thought.org Public service Unix From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jul 29 23:32:33 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 143BE16A4CE for ; Thu, 29 Jul 2004 23:32:33 +0000 (GMT) Received: from postal3.es.net (postal3.es.net [198.128.3.207]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E9C4F43D5F for ; Thu, 29 Jul 2004 23:32:32 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from oberman@es.net) Received: from ptavv.es.net ([198.128.4.29]) by postal3.es.net (Postal Node 3) with ESMTP (SSL) id IBA74465; Thu, 29 Jul 2004 16:32:32 -0700 Received: from ptavv (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ptavv.es.net (Tachyon Server) with ESMTP id D3AB85D08; Thu, 29 Jul 2004 16:32:31 -0700 (PDT) To: Gary Kline In-reply-to: Your message of "Thu, 29 Jul 2004 13:24:38 PDT." <20040729202438.GA855@tao.thought.org> Date: Thu, 29 Jul 2004 16:32:31 -0700 From: "Kevin Oberman" Message-Id: <20040729233231.D3AB85D08@ptavv.es.net> cc: peter@sandilands.vu cc: Victor Bratsev cc: FreeBSD Mobile Mailing List Subject: Re: Thinkpad 600E and 5.2 X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 29 Jul 2004 23:32:33 -0000 > Date: Thu, 29 Jul 2004 13:24:38 -0700 > From: Gary Kline > > On Thu, Jul 29, 2004 at 12:57:39PM -0700, Kevin Oberman wrote: > > > Date: Thu, 29 Jul 2004 12:32:15 -0700 > > > From: Gary Kline > > > > > > On Thu, Jul 29, 2004 at 11:29:22AM -0700, Kevin Oberman wrote: > > > > > From: "Peter Sandilands" > > > > > Date: Thu, 29 Jul 2004 10:34:30 +1000 > > > > > > > > [ ... ] > > > > > > > > > > > I just fired up my 600E. It's running 5.2-BETA from Dec. of last year. > > > > Something my have broken since then, but I get NEWCARD to work with the > > > > following in /boot/loader.conf: hw.cbb.start_memory="0x20000000" > > > > hw.pci.allow_unsupported_io_range="1" > > > > > > > > My kernel config is: > > > > device cbb > > > > device pccard > > > > device cardbus > > > > > > > > It was not happy with ACPI, so I am running APM. > > > > > > > > My Xircom card seems quite happy there. > > > > > > > > > A couple of questons. First, we are prob'ly running a similar > > > 5.2; none of the files in my KERNEL conf directory is older > > > that early Dec., '03. Where is the NEWCARD file? Should my > > > Xircom be recognized once I rebuild the GENERIC kernel? > > > I see that what you have as ^define targets and nodefines in > > > OLDCARD. > > > > There is no "NEWCARD" file. GENERIC is NEWCARD. The config lines I > > included result in a NEWCARD kernel. OLDCARD uses pcic and card while > > GENERIC uses cbb, cardbus, and pccard. The dmesg should contain entries > > for 2 each cbb, cardbus, and pccard devices. The actual Ethernet device > > will be way down the dmesg from the other stuff. > > Thanks for clarifying. I'm about 45 minutes into a rebuild > with KERCONF=GENERIC. I should know fairly soon; will post > further comments|queries in a few hours. > > > when did lbl become es.net? i worked at llnl for a few years > and thought all the labs were .gov. > LBL won the contract to operate ESnet about 8 years ago. Prior to that ESnet was operated as a part of the NERSC supercomputing facility at LLNL. ESnet is the wide area network that provides connectivity to DOE laboratories and contract facilities around the country. We act as an NSP for LLNL, LBNL, LANL, Sandia, Brookhaven, Fermilab, Argonne, and about 40 other sites and maintain a 10 Gbps trans-continental backbone to carry the traffic between DOE sites and US and international research sites such as CERN. We also provide commercial connectivity for our sites and peer with over 100 commercial Internet providers such as UUnet, Sprint, Savvis and AT&T. While we are currently located at LBNL (and I hope to stay there), except for administrative support, we LBNL is just another site on the network. So my work address is es.net, but I can also be reached at KOberman@lbl.gov. The legal name of LBNL is the rather verbose one in my .sig file, but lab management prefers "Berkeley Lab", so I stick it in there, too. I was at LLNL for 23 years before moving to LBNL, mostly in the Engineering Department where my last job was managing their internal networks. Might I ask when and where you worked at LLNL? -- R. Kevin Oberman, Network Engineer Energy Sciences Network (ESnet) Ernest O. Lawrence Berkeley National Laboratory (Berkeley Lab) E-mail: oberman@es.net Phone: +1 510 486-8634 From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jul 29 23:35:18 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EC06D16A4CE for ; Thu, 29 Jul 2004 23:35:18 +0000 (GMT) Received: from postal2.es.net (postal2.es.net [198.128.3.206]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DB2BE43D53 for ; Thu, 29 Jul 2004 23:35:18 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from oberman@es.net) Received: from ptavv.es.net ([198.128.4.29]) by postal2.es.net (Postal Node 2) with ESMTP (SSL) id IBA74465 for ; Thu, 29 Jul 2004 16:35:18 -0700 Received: from ptavv (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ptavv.es.net (Tachyon Server) with ESMTP id 789B55D08 for ; Thu, 29 Jul 2004 16:35:18 -0700 (PDT) To: FreeBSD Mobile Mailing List In-reply-to: Your message of "Thu, 29 Jul 2004 16:32:31 PDT." <20040729233231.D3AB85D08@ptavv.es.net> Date: Thu, 29 Jul 2004 16:35:18 -0700 From: "Kevin Oberman" Message-Id: <20040729233518.789B55D08@ptavv.es.net> Subject: Re: Thinkpad 600E and 5.2 X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 29 Jul 2004 23:35:19 -0000 Oops! I meant to just send that last note to Gary. Sorry! -- R. Kevin Oberman, Network Engineer Energy Sciences Network (ESnet) Ernest O. Lawrence Berkeley National Laboratory (Berkeley Lab) E-mail: oberman@es.net Phone: +1 510 486-8634 From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jul 30 00:25:43 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8729A16A4CE for ; Fri, 30 Jul 2004 00:25:43 +0000 (GMT) Received: from ms-smtp-01-eri0.southeast.rr.com (ms-smtp-01-lbl.southeast.rr.com [24.25.9.100]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D408543D31 for ; Fri, 30 Jul 2004 00:25:38 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from morganw@chemikals.org) Received: from volatile.chemikals.org (cpe-024-211-118-154.sc.rr.com [24.211.118.154])i6U0PMPf009727; Thu, 29 Jul 2004 20:25:24 -0400 (EDT) Received: from volatile.chemikals.org (morganw@localhost [127.0.0.1]) i6U0PL3u097369; Thu, 29 Jul 2004 20:25:21 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from morganw@chemikals.org) Received: from localhost (morganw@localhost)i6U0PLrL097366; Thu, 29 Jul 2004 20:25:21 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from morganw@chemikals.org) X-Authentication-Warning: volatile.chemikals.org: morganw owned process doing -bs Date: Thu, 29 Jul 2004 20:25:21 -0400 (EDT) From: Wesley Morgan To: Ray Seals In-Reply-To: <1091115088.583.4.camel@mgl.magellanhealth.com> Message-ID: <20040729202414.K96671@volatile.chemikals.org> References: <20040725002730.GA69069@gargantuan.com> <1091115088.583.4.camel@mgl.magellanhealth.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Virus-Scanned: Symantec AntiVirus Scan Engine cc: FreeBSD Mobile Subject: Re: new laptop suggestions - not the usual stuff X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 30 Jul 2004 00:25:43 -0000 On Thu, 29 Jul 2004, Ray Seals wrote: > On Sat, 2004-07-24 at 19:27, Michael W. Oliver wrote: >> Ok folks, I know that this comes up from time to time, and I know very >> well the FreeBSD laptop compatibility list (which rocks!), but I think >> this case is different, and here's why. >> >> I am looking for a new laptop that has the following features: >> >> 1) pointing stick in keyboard *THIS IS A MUST* These are sadly becoming harder to find, despite their obvious superiority to the "touch pad". I was very put off when Toshiba dropped their Satellite Pro line that featured this! I'll have to hang on to my current laptop forever. -- Hi! I'm a .signature virus! Copy me into your ~/.signature to help me spread! From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jul 30 00:28:52 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AD95616A4DC for ; Fri, 30 Jul 2004 00:28:52 +0000 (GMT) Received: from sage.thought.org (dsl231-043-140.sea1.dsl.speakeasy.net [216.231.43.140]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6A88843D41 for ; Fri, 30 Jul 2004 00:28:51 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from kline@tao.thought.org) Received: from thought.org (tao [10.0.0.247]) by sage.thought.org (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id i6U0SQhK062353; Thu, 29 Jul 2004 17:28:27 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kline@tao.thought.org) Received: from tao.thought.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by thought.org (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id i6U0SOGU001579; Thu, 29 Jul 2004 17:28:25 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kline@tao.thought.org) Received: (from kline@localhost) by tao.thought.org (8.12.11/8.12.11/Submit) id i6U0SEvE001578; Thu, 29 Jul 2004 17:28:14 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kline) Date: Thu, 29 Jul 2004 17:28:14 -0700 From: Gary Kline To: Kevin Oberman Message-ID: <20040730002814.GA1441@tao.thought.org> References: <20040729202438.GA855@tao.thought.org> <20040729233231.D3AB85D08@ptavv.es.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20040729233231.D3AB85D08@ptavv.es.net> X-Organization: Thought Unlimited. Public service Unix since 1986. X-Of_Interest: Observing 18 years of service to the Unix community User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.6i cc: peter@sandilands.vu cc: Victor Bratsev cc: FreeBSD Mobile Mailing List Subject: Re: Thinkpad 600E and 5.2 X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 30 Jul 2004 00:28:52 -0000 [[ ... ]] > > > > when did lbl become es.net? i worked at llnl for a few years > > and thought all the labs were .gov. > > > > LBL won the contract to operate ESnet about 8 years ago. Prior to that > ESnet was operated as a part of the NERSC supercomputing facility at > LLNL. ESnet is the wide area network that provides connectivity to DOE > laboratories and contract facilities around the country. We act as an > NSP for LLNL, LBNL, LANL, Sandia, Brookhaven, Fermilab, Argonne, and > about 40 other sites and maintain a 10 Gbps trans-continental backbone > to carry the traffic between DOE sites and US and international research > sites such as CERN. Oh, yumm... . > We also provide commercial connectivity for our > sites and peer with over 100 commercial Internet providers such as > UUnet, Sprint, Savvis and AT&T. > > While we are currently located at LBNL (and I hope to stay there), > except for administrative support, we LBNL is just another site on the > network. So my work address is es.net, but I can also be reached at > KOberman@lbl.gov. The legal name of LBNL is the rather verbose one in my > .sig file, but lab management prefers "Berkeley Lab", so I stick it in > there, too. Understand. Bekeley Lab has a nicer ring to it... (Well, that depends, I 'spose.) > > I was at LLNL for 23 years before moving to LBNL, mostly in the > Engineering Department where my last job was managing their internal > networks. Might I ask when and where you worked at LLNL? I was at Livermore as an intern from 1980-83. Worked for Lowell Wood on the S1 supercomputer (Navy). Electrical Engineering was a 2nd career and I was in my mid-30's when Lowell had his 40th birthday party. Edw Teller was there that day. ANyway, I worked on porting Stu Feldman's "Portable" Fortran Compiler from (*don't laugh*) the project's 11/40 to the S1 architecture! --There's more to the story... . LLL was the best place I've ever worked; there was a rif in '83 that made me look elsewhere, but I managed to spent the rest of my career in HPC. ...What a time it's been. But _anyway_: Re ThinkPad 600E, I enclose the followng console.log. Why isn't pccard_ether being recognized? What ifconfig line am I missing? or other config line? --more below-- Jul 29 18:17:33 talk kernel: Jul 29 18:17:33 talk shutdown: power-down by root: Jul 29 18:17:35 talk kernel: pccard_ether: not found Jul 29 18:17:35 talk kernel: Stopping inetd. Jul 29 18:17:35 talk kernel: Shutting down daemon processes: Jul 29 18:17:35 talk kernel: . Jul 29 18:17:35 talk kernel: Stopping cron. Jul 29 18:17:35 talk kernel: Shutting down local daemons: Jul 29 18:17:35 talk kernel: . Jul 29 18:17:35 talk kernel: Writing entropy file: Jul 29 18:19:15 talk kernel: Loading configuration files. Jul 29 18:19:15 talk kernel: pccard_ether: not found Jul 29 18:19:15 talk kernel: Entropy harvesting: Jul 29 18:19:15 talk kernel: interrupts Jul 29 18:19:15 talk kernel: ethernet Jul 29 18:19:15 talk kernel: point_to_point Jul 29 18:19:15 talk kernel: . Jul 29 18:19:15 talk kernel: swapon: adding /dev/ad0s2b as swap device Jul 29 18:19:15 talk kernel: Starting file system checks: Jul 29 18:19:15 talk kernel: /dev/ad0s1a: FILE SYSTEM CLEAN; SKIPPING CHECKS Jul 29 18:19:15 talk kernel: /dev/ad0s1a: clean, 92235 free (987 frags, 11406 blocks, 0.8% fragmentation) Jul 29 18:19:15 talk kernel: /dev/ad0s3d: FILE SYSTEM CLEAN; SKIPPING CHECKS Jul 29 18:19:15 talk kernel: /dev/ad0s3d: clean, 494150 free (22 frags, 61766 blocks, 0.0% fragmentation) Jul 29 18:19:15 talk kernel: /dev/ad0s4d: FILE SYSTEM CLEAN; SKIPPING CHECKS Jul 29 18:19:15 talk kernel: /dev/ad0s4d: clean, 3481501 free (75645 frags, 425732 blocks, 1.9% fragmentation) Jul 29 18:19:15 talk kernel: Setting hostname: talk.thought.org. Jul 29 18:19:15 talk kernel: lo0: flags=8049 mtu 16384 Jul 29 18:19:15 talk kernel: inet 127.0.0.1 netmask 0xff000000 Jul 29 18:19:15 talk kernel: inet6 ::1 prefixlen 128 Jul 29 18:19:15 talk kernel: inet6 fe80::1%lo0 prefixlen 64 scopeid 0x2 Jul 29 18:19:15 talk kernel: pccard_ether: not found Jul 29 18:19:15 talk kernel: route: Jul 29 18:19:15 talk kernel: writing to routing socket Jul 29 18:19:15 talk kernel: : Jul 29 18:19:15 talk kernel: Network is unreachable Jul 29 18:19:15 talk kernel: add net default: gateway 10.0.0.1: Network is unreachable Jul 29 18:19:15 talk kernel: Additional routing options: Jul 29 18:19:15 talk kernel: . Jul 29 18:19:15 talk kernel: hw.bus.devctl_disable: Jul 29 18:19:15 talk kernel: 0 Jul 29 18:19:15 talk kernel: -> Jul 29 18:19:15 talk kernel: 1 Jul 29 18:19:15 talk kernel: Jul 29 18:19:15 talk kernel: Mounting NFS file systems: Jul 29 18:19:15 talk kernel: . Jul 29 18:19:15 talk kernel: Starting syslogd. Jul 29 18:19:15 talk kernel: Jul 29 18:19:14 talk syslogd: kernel boot file is /boot/kernel/kernel Jul 29 18:19:15 talk kernel: Starting rpcbind. Jul 29 18:19:16 talk kernel: Turning on accounting. Jul 29 18:19:16 talk kernel: Jul 29 18:19:16 talk kernel: Accounting enabled Jul 29 18:19:16 talk kernel: ELF ldconfig path: /lib /usr/lib /usr/lib/compat /usr/X11R6/lib /usr/local/lib Jul 29 18:19:16 talk kernel: a.out ldconfig path: /usr/lib/aout /usr/lib/compat/aout /usr/X11R6/lib/aout Jul 29 18:19:17 talk kernel: Starting usbd. Jul 29 18:19:17 talk kernel: Starting local daemons: Jul 29 18:19:17 talk kernel: . Jul 29 18:19:17 talk kernel: Starting lpd. Jul 29 18:19:17 talk kernel: Updating motd Jul 29 18:19:17 talk kernel: . Jul 29 18:19:18 talk kernel: /etc/rc: WARNING: /etc/ntp.conf is not readable. Jul 29 18:19:18 talk kernel: Starting rwhod. Jul 29 18:19:18 talk kernel: Configuring syscons: Jul 29 18:19:18 talk kernel: blanktime Jul 29 18:19:18 talk kernel: . Jul 29 18:19:18 talk kernel: Starting sshd. Jul 29 18:19:19 talk kernel: Starting sendmail. Jul 29 18:19:20 talk kernel: Initial i386 initialization: Jul 29 18:19:20 talk kernel: . Jul 29 18:19:20 talk kernel: Additional ABI support: Jul 29 18:19:20 talk kernel: linux Jul 29 18:19:30 talk kernel: . Jul 29 18:19:30 talk kernel: Starting cron. Jul 29 18:19:31 talk kernel: Local package initialization: Jul 29 18:19:31 talk kernel: . Jul 29 18:19:31 talk kernel: Additional TCP options: Jul 29 18:19:31 talk kernel: . Jul 29 18:19:31 talk kernel: pccard_ether: not found Jul 29 18:19:31 talk kernel: Starting moused: Jul 29 18:19:32 talk kernel: . Jul 29 18:19:32 talk kernel: Starting inetd. Jul 29 18:19:32 talk kernel: Starting background file system checks in 60 seconds. Jul 29 18:19:32 talk kernel: Jul 29 18:19:33 talk kernel: Thu Jul 29 18:19:32 GMT 2004 Jul 29 18:19:47 talk kernel: Jul 29 18:19:47 talk login: ROOT LOGIN (root) ON ttyv0 ifconfig -a shows that the 600E knows there is a 100 card there. In rc.conf I've got pccard_ether xe0 start link0 or pccard_ether dc0 start link0 I *had* and deleted: ifconfig_[xe|dc]0="DHCP" hostname="talk.thought.org" defaultrouter="10.0.0.1" This seems to cause havoc; I'm guessing there is some other way f telling the kernel to exec dhclient. gary -- Gary Kline kline@thought.org www.thought.org Public service Unix From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jul 30 01:03:37 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 999DB16A4CE for ; Fri, 30 Jul 2004 01:03:37 +0000 (GMT) Received: from bast.unixathome.org (bast.unixathome.org [66.11.174.150]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7010843D41 for ; Fri, 30 Jul 2004 01:03:37 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from dan@langille.org) Received: from xeon (xeon.unixathome.org [192.168.0.18]) by bast.unixathome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BF2E13D34; Thu, 29 Jul 2004 21:03:36 -0400 (EDT) Date: Thu, 29 Jul 2004 21:03:36 -0400 (EDT) From: Dan Langille X-X-Sender: dan@xeon.unixathome.org To: Wesley Morgan In-Reply-To: <20040729202414.K96671@volatile.chemikals.org> Message-ID: <20040729210322.B16506@xeon.unixathome.org> References: <20040725002730.GA69069@gargantuan.com> <20040729202414.K96671@volatile.chemikals.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII cc: Ray Seals cc: FreeBSD Mobile Subject: Re: new laptop suggestions - not the usual stuff X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 30 Jul 2004 01:03:37 -0000 On Thu, 29 Jul 2004, Wesley Morgan wrote: > On Thu, 29 Jul 2004, Ray Seals wrote: > > > On Sat, 2004-07-24 at 19:27, Michael W. Oliver wrote: > >> Ok folks, I know that this comes up from time to time, and I know very > >> well the FreeBSD laptop compatibility list (which rocks!), but I think > >> this case is different, and here's why. > >> > >> I am looking for a new laptop that has the following features: > >> > >> 1) pointing stick in keyboard *THIS IS A MUST* > > These are sadly becoming harder to find, despite their obvious superiority > to the "touch pad". I was very put off when Toshiba dropped their > Satellite Pro line that featured this! I'll have to hang on to my current > laptop forever. IBM are committed to the stick I think. -- Dan Langille - http://www.langille.org/ From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jul 30 01:31:02 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 89BF016A4CE for ; Fri, 30 Jul 2004 01:31:02 +0000 (GMT) Received: from sage.thought.org (dsl231-043-140.sea1.dsl.speakeasy.net [216.231.43.140]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 06B9643D46 for ; Fri, 30 Jul 2004 01:31:02 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from kline@tao.thought.org) Received: from thought.org (tao [10.0.0.247]) by sage.thought.org (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id i6U1UvhK062458; Thu, 29 Jul 2004 18:30:58 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kline@tao.thought.org) Received: from tao.thought.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by thought.org (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id i6U1UuVT001668; Thu, 29 Jul 2004 18:30:56 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kline@tao.thought.org) Received: (from kline@localhost) by tao.thought.org (8.12.11/8.12.11/Submit) id i6U1Utgj001667; Thu, 29 Jul 2004 18:30:55 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kline) Date: Thu, 29 Jul 2004 18:30:55 -0700 From: Gary Kline To: Kevin Oberman Message-ID: <20040730013055.GB1441@tao.thought.org> References: <20040729233231.D3AB85D08@ptavv.es.net> <20040729233518.789B55D08@ptavv.es.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20040729233518.789B55D08@ptavv.es.net> X-Organization: Thought Unlimited. Public service Unix since 1986. X-Of_Interest: Observing 18 years of service to the Unix community User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.6i cc: FreeBSD Mobile Mailing List Subject: Re: Thinkpad 600E and 5.2 X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 30 Jul 2004 01:31:02 -0000 On Thu, Jul 29, 2004 at 04:35:18PM -0700, Kevin Oberman wrote: > Oops! I meant to just send that last note to Gary. Sorry! Same with my reply, so apologies to the list. My finger tends tward the 'g' key by default. gary -- Gary Kline kline@thought.org www.thought.org Public service Unix From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jul 30 01:39:22 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 610B416A4CE for ; Fri, 30 Jul 2004 01:39:22 +0000 (GMT) Received: from ms-smtp-01-eri0.southeast.rr.com (ms-smtp-01-lbl.southeast.rr.com [24.25.9.100]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F38DB43D64 for ; Fri, 30 Jul 2004 01:39:21 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from morganw@chemikals.org) Received: from volatile.chemikals.org (cpe-024-211-118-154.sc.rr.com [24.211.118.154])i6U1dHPf022660; Thu, 29 Jul 2004 21:39:18 -0400 (EDT) Received: from volatile.chemikals.org (morganw@localhost [127.0.0.1]) i6U1dHAb098366; Thu, 29 Jul 2004 21:39:17 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from morganw@chemikals.org) Received: from localhost (morganw@localhost)i6U1dGla098363; Thu, 29 Jul 2004 21:39:16 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from morganw@chemikals.org) X-Authentication-Warning: volatile.chemikals.org: morganw owned process doing -bs Date: Thu, 29 Jul 2004 21:39:16 -0400 (EDT) From: Wesley Morgan To: Dan Langille In-Reply-To: <20040729210322.B16506@xeon.unixathome.org> Message-ID: <20040729213847.T96671@volatile.chemikals.org> References: <20040725002730.GA69069@gargantuan.com> <20040729202414.K96671@volatile.chemikals.org> <20040729210322.B16506@xeon.unixathome.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Virus-Scanned: Symantec AntiVirus Scan Engine cc: Ray Seals cc: FreeBSD Mobile Subject: Re: new laptop suggestions - not the usual stuff X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 30 Jul 2004 01:39:22 -0000 On Thu, 29 Jul 2004, Dan Langille wrote: > On Thu, 29 Jul 2004, Wesley Morgan wrote: > >> On Thu, 29 Jul 2004, Ray Seals wrote: >> >>> On Sat, 2004-07-24 at 19:27, Michael W. Oliver wrote: >>>> Ok folks, I know that this comes up from time to time, and I know very >>>> well the FreeBSD laptop compatibility list (which rocks!), but I think >>>> this case is different, and here's why. >>>> >>>> I am looking for a new laptop that has the following features: >>>> >>>> 1) pointing stick in keyboard *THIS IS A MUST* >> >> These are sadly becoming harder to find, despite their obvious superiority >> to the "touch pad". I was very put off when Toshiba dropped their >> Satellite Pro line that featured this! I'll have to hang on to my current >> laptop forever. > > IBM are committed to the stick I think. Yeah but the keyboards on thinkpads suck. All springy and stiff :) -- Hi! I'm a .signature virus! Copy me into your ~/.signature to help me spread! From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jul 30 04:08:10 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AFC5516A4CE for ; Fri, 30 Jul 2004 04:08:10 +0000 (GMT) Received: from santiago.pacific.net.sg (santiago.pacific.net.sg [203.120.90.135]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 9404843D58 for ; Fri, 30 Jul 2004 04:08:09 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from oceanare@pacific.net.sg) Received: (qmail 6690 invoked from network); 30 Jul 2004 04:07:58 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO maxwell2.pacific.net.sg) (203.120.90.192) by santiago with SMTP; 30 Jul 2004 04:07:57 -0000 Received: from [192.168.0.107] ([210.24.202.160]) by maxwell2.pacific.net.sg with ESMTP <20040730040757.NQRT1183.maxwell2.pacific.net.sg@[192.168.0.107]>; Fri, 30 Jul 2004 12:07:57 +0800 Message-ID: <4109C97E.3080003@pacific.net.sg> Date: Fri, 30 Jul 2004 12:07:26 +0800 From: Erich Dollansky User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 0.7.1 (X11/20040714) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Dan Langille References: <20040725002730.GA69069@gargantuan.com> <20040729202414.K96671@volatile.chemikals.org> <20040729210322.B16506@xeon.unixathome.org> In-Reply-To: <20040729210322.B16506@xeon.unixathome.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: Ray Seals cc: FreeBSD Mobile Subject: Re: new laptop suggestions - not the usual stuff X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 30 Jul 2004 04:08:10 -0000 Hi, Dan Langille wrote: > On Thu, 29 Jul 2004, Wesley Morgan wrote: > > >>On Thu, 29 Jul 2004, Ray Seals wrote: >> >> >>>On Sat, 2004-07-24 at 19:27, Michael W. Oliver wrote: >>> >>>>Ok folks, I know that this comes up from time to time, and I know very >>>>well the FreeBSD laptop compatibility list (which rocks!), but I think >>>>this case is different, and here's why. >>>> >>>>I am looking for a new laptop that has the following features: >>>> >>>>1) pointing stick in keyboard *THIS IS A MUST* >> >>These are sadly becoming harder to find, despite their obvious superiority >>to the "touch pad". I was very put off when Toshiba dropped their >>Satellite Pro line that featured this! I'll have to hang on to my current >>laptop forever. > > > IBM are committed to the stick I think. > This is not the case. Some have already both. This is how it started with Toshiba too. I found a Fujitsu with a stick. But only the smallest in production still has it. Erich From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jul 30 04:27:33 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C785E16A4CF for ; Fri, 30 Jul 2004 04:27:30 +0000 (GMT) Received: from phoenix.gargantuan.com (rrcs-se-24-73-171-238.biz.rr.com [24.73.171.238]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5262943D66 for ; Fri, 30 Jul 2004 04:27:27 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from freebsd-mobile@gargantuan.com) Received: from localhost (localhost.gargantuan.com [127.0.0.1]) by spamassassin-injector (Postfix) with SMTP id 5E130380 for ; Fri, 30 Jul 2004 00:26:43 -0400 (EDT) Received: by phoenix.gargantuan.com (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 97CD0176; Fri, 30 Jul 2004 00:26:06 -0400 (EDT) Date: Fri, 30 Jul 2004 00:26:06 -0400 From: "Michael W. Oliver" To: FreeBSD Mobile Message-ID: <20040730042606.GC96313@gargantuan.com> Mail-Followup-To: FreeBSD Mobile References: <20040725002730.GA69069@gargantuan.com> <20040729202414.K96671@volatile.chemikals.org> <20040729210322.B16506@xeon.unixathome.org> <4109C97E.3080003@pacific.net.sg> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="LpQ9ahxlCli8rRTG" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <4109C97E.3080003@pacific.net.sg> X-WWW-Site: http://michael.gargantuan.com X-PGP-Public-Key: $X-WWW-Site/gnupg/pubkey.asc X-PGP-Fingerprint: 2694 0179 AE3F BFAE 0916 0BF5 B16B FBAB C5FA A3C9 X-Home-Phone: +1-863-816-8091 X-Mobile-Phone: +1-863-738-2334 X-Home-Address0: 8008 Apache Lane X-Home-Address1: Lakeland, FL X-Home-Address2: 33810-2172 X-Home-Address3: United States of America X-Good-Question-Guide: http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html X-Netiquette-Guidelines: http://www.ietf.org/rfc/rfc1855.txt User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.6i X-Spam-DCC: : X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on phoenix.gargantuan.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-2.7 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_00,NO_DNS_FOR_FROM autolearn=no version=2.63 Subject: Re: new laptop suggestions - not the usual stuff X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 30 Jul 2004 04:27:34 -0000 --LpQ9ahxlCli8rRTG Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Thanks to you all for your suggestions. Unfortunately, I think I am going to have to give up on the AMD64 piece for now and just settle for everything else in a HP NC8000. My wife has a NC3000 from work and it is a very nice machine, so I am ok with the NC8000. P.S. - my desire for the pointing stick is born of using ThinkPads for many years, and I would certainly get a ThinkPad instead of the NC8000 if they were anywhere close to one another in price... --=20 Mike perl -e 'print unpack("u","88V]N=3D&%C=3D\"!I;F9O(&EN(&AE861E Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DBE8516A4CE for ; Fri, 30 Jul 2004 06:02:17 +0000 (GMT) Received: from freebsd.giovannelli.com (freebsd.giovannelli.com [83.149.149.149]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7624943D62 for ; Fri, 30 Jul 2004 06:02:11 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from gmarco@giovannelli.it) Received: from latitude.giovannelli.com ([10.254.254.147]) i6U618cU037257 for ; Fri, 30 Jul 2004 08:01:09 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from gmarco@giovannelli.it) From: Gianmarco To: FreeBSD Mobile Date: Fri, 30 Jul 2004 08:01:36 +0200 User-Agent: KMail/1.6.2 References: <20040725002730.GA69069@gargantuan.com> <4109C97E.3080003@pacific.net.sg> <20040730042606.GC96313@gargantuan.com> In-Reply-To: <20040730042606.GC96313@gargantuan.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <200407300801.37113.gmarco@giovannelli.it> X-AntiVirus: checked by AntiVir Milter 1.1-beta; AVE 6.26.0.10; VDF 6.26.0.51 (host: freebsd.giovannelli.com) Subject: Re: new laptop suggestions - not the usual stuff X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 30 Jul 2004 06:02:18 -0000 On Friday 30 July 2004 06:26, Michael W. Oliver wrote: > Thanks to you all for your suggestions. Unfortunately, I think I am > going to have to give up on the AMD64 piece for now and just settle for > everything else in a HP NC8000. My wife has a NC3000 from work and it > is a very nice machine, so I am ok with the NC8000. > > P.S. - my desire for the pointing stick is born of using ThinkPads for > many years, and I would certainly get a ThinkPad instead of the NC8000 > if they were anywhere close to one another in price... I have a dell latitude d600, which has the stick (plus the standard pointing system) and works very well with FreeBSD (display 14.1 1400x1050, low weight, acpi working, wifi supportted, gigabit ethernet too etc etc...) From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jul 30 07:15:52 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2AF6C16A4CE; Fri, 30 Jul 2004 07:15:52 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mp2.macomnet.net (mp2.macomnet.net [195.128.64.6]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4A30443D31; Fri, 30 Jul 2004 07:15:51 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from maxim@macomnet.ru) Received-SPF: pass (mp2.macomnet.net: domain of maxim@macomnet.ru designates 127.0.0.1 as permitted sender) receiver=mp2.macomnet.net; client_ip=127.0.0.1; envelope-from=maxim@macomnet.ru; Received: from localhost (8chmayv6@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mp2.macomnet.net (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id i6U7FKw6008339; Fri, 30 Jul 2004 11:15:24 +0400 (MSD) (envelope-from maxim@macomnet.ru) Date: Fri, 30 Jul 2004 11:15:20 +0400 (MSD) From: Maxim Konovalov To: Marian Hettwer In-Reply-To: <4109F4D8.2070909@kernel32.de> Message-ID: <20040730111442.P8292@mp2.macomnet.net> References: <20040729185705.31943.qmail@web90108.mail.scd.yahoo.com> <20040729230242.O5629@mp2.macomnet.net> <4109F4D8.2070909@kernel32.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII cc: freeman dyson cc: freebsd-current@freebsd.org cc: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Subject: Re: 5.2.1 with Linksys WPC54G & NDIS project evil... X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 30 Jul 2004 07:15:52 -0000 On Fri, 30 Jul 2004, 09:12+0200, Marian Hettwer wrote: > > > Maxim Konovalov wrote: > > On Thu, 29 Jul 2004, 11:57-0700, freeman dyson wrote: > >>I'm Running FreeBSD 5.2.1-RELEASE on a Dell Latitude. > >>I have a Linksys WPC54G. I've gotten the > > > >>anyone have any sugesstions? > > > > > > I see no problems with WPC64G and ath(4) on my sony v505bx. Yes, it > > is -CURRENT, not sure about 5.2.1-R. > > > I guess it was a typo, 'cause the thread is about the WPC54G ... > However, I was wondering wether it's really supported by ath(4) in -CURRENT, > because the WPC54G isn't atheros based. It has some strange Broadcom Chipset, > which is AFAIK not supported by ath. > Also the online manpage of ath(4) is not mentioning the LinkSys WPC54G. I have > FreeBSD 5.2.1 running and it's definitly not supported by ath(4). Yes, that was supposed to be WPC54AG, sorry for the confusion :-| -- Maxim Konovalov From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jul 30 07:39:17 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9816D16A4CE; Fri, 30 Jul 2004 07:39:17 +0000 (GMT) Received: from www.cyclades.de (mail.linux-router.org [62.225.173.194]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DE82343D5D; Fri, 30 Jul 2004 07:39:16 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from mh@kernel32.de) Received: from [192.168.10.148] (helo=[192.168.10.148]) by www.cyclades.de with asmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 1BqRYN-00078o-00; Fri, 30 Jul 2004 09:11:43 +0200 Message-ID: <4109F4D8.2070909@kernel32.de> Date: Fri, 30 Jul 2004 09:12:24 +0200 From: Marian Hettwer User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 0.7.2 (X11/20040720) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Maxim Konovalov References: <20040729185705.31943.qmail@web90108.mail.scd.yahoo.com> <20040729230242.O5629@mp2.macomnet.net> In-Reply-To: <20040729230242.O5629@mp2.macomnet.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-MailScanner-SpamCheck: cc: freeman dyson cc: freebsd-current@freebsd.org cc: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Subject: Re: 5.2.1 with Linksys WPC54G & NDIS project evil... X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 30 Jul 2004 07:39:17 -0000 Maxim Konovalov wrote: > On Thu, 29 Jul 2004, 11:57-0700, freeman dyson wrote: >>I'm Running FreeBSD 5.2.1-RELEASE on a Dell Latitude. >>I have a Linksys WPC54G. I've gotten the > >>anyone have any sugesstions? > > > I see no problems with WPC64G and ath(4) on my sony v505bx. Yes, it > is -CURRENT, not sure about 5.2.1-R. > I guess it was a typo, 'cause the thread is about the WPC54G ... However, I was wondering wether it's really supported by ath(4) in -CURRENT, because the WPC54G isn't atheros based. It has some strange Broadcom Chipset, which is AFAIK not supported by ath. Also the online manpage of ath(4) is not mentioning the LinkSys WPC54G. I have FreeBSD 5.2.1 running and it's definitly not supported by ath(4). regards, Marian From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jul 30 14:56:00 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4C9B716A4CE for ; Fri, 30 Jul 2004 14:56:00 +0000 (GMT) Received: from schlepper.zs64.net (schlepper.zs64.net [212.12.50.230]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ABA5643D55 for ; Fri, 30 Jul 2004 14:55:59 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from cracauer@schlepper.zs64.net) Received: from schlepper.zs64.net (schlepper [212.12.50.230]) by schlepper.zs64.net (8.12.11/8.11.1) with ESMTP id i6UEtwra040449; Fri, 30 Jul 2004 16:55:58 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from cracauer@schlepper.zs64.net) Received: (from cracauer@localhost) by schlepper.zs64.net (8.12.11/8.12.9/Submit) id i6UEtswS040448; Fri, 30 Jul 2004 10:55:54 -0400 (EDT) Date: Fri, 30 Jul 2004 10:55:54 -0400 From: Martin Cracauer To: Gianmarco Message-ID: <20040730105554.A40381@seagull.cons.org> References: <20040725002730.GA69069@gargantuan.com> <4109C97E.3080003@pacific.net.sg> <20040730042606.GC96313@gargantuan.com> <200407300801.37113.gmarco@giovannelli.it> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <200407300801.37113.gmarco@giovannelli.it>; from gmarco@giovannelli.it on Fri, Jul 30, 2004 at 08:01:36AM +0200 cc: FreeBSD Mobile Subject: Re: new laptop suggestions - not the usual stuff X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 30 Jul 2004 14:56:00 -0000 Gianmarco wrote on Fri, Jul 30, 2004 at 08:01:36AM +0200: > On Friday 30 July 2004 06:26, Michael W. Oliver wrote: > > Thanks to you all for your suggestions. Unfortunately, I think I am > > going to have to give up on the AMD64 piece for now and just settle for > > everything else in a HP NC8000. My wife has a NC3000 from work and it > > is a very nice machine, so I am ok with the NC8000. > > > > P.S. - my desire for the pointing stick is born of using ThinkPads for > > many years, and I would certainly get a ThinkPad instead of the NC8000 > > if they were anywhere close to one another in price... > > I have a dell latitude d600, which has the stick (plus the standard pointing > system) and works very well with FreeBSD (display 14.1 1400x1050, low weight, > acpi working, wifi supportted, gigabit ethernet too etc etc...) Which wireless option do you have? And how the hell do I choose the big display on that mess of a website? Sorry :-) Martin -- %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% Martin Cracauer http://www.cons.org/cracauer/ No warranty. This email is probably produced by one of my cats stepping on the keys. No, I don't have an infinite number of cats. From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jul 30 15:49:01 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 34CB516A4CE for ; Fri, 30 Jul 2004 15:49:01 +0000 (GMT) Received: from postal2.es.net (postal2.es.net [198.128.3.206]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1F5A343D41 for ; Fri, 30 Jul 2004 15:49:01 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from oberman@es.net) Received: from ptavv.es.net ([198.128.4.29]) by postal2.es.net (Postal Node 2) with ESMTP (SSL) id IBA74465; Fri, 30 Jul 2004 08:48:48 -0700 Received: from ptavv (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ptavv.es.net (Tachyon Server) with ESMTP id 4A6855D08; Fri, 30 Jul 2004 08:48:47 -0700 (PDT) To: Wesley Morgan In-reply-to: Your message of "Thu, 29 Jul 2004 21:39:16 EDT." <20040729213847.T96671@volatile.chemikals.org> Date: Fri, 30 Jul 2004 08:48:47 -0700 From: "Kevin Oberman" Message-Id: <20040730154847.4A6855D08@ptavv.es.net> cc: Dan Langille cc: Ray Seals cc: FreeBSD Mobile Subject: Re: new laptop suggestions - not the usual stuff X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 30 Jul 2004 15:49:01 -0000 > Date: Thu, 29 Jul 2004 21:39:16 -0400 (EDT) > From: Wesley Morgan > Sender: owner-freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org > > On Thu, 29 Jul 2004, Dan Langille wrote: > > > On Thu, 29 Jul 2004, Wesley Morgan wrote: > > > >> On Thu, 29 Jul 2004, Ray Seals wrote: > >> > >>> On Sat, 2004-07-24 at 19:27, Michael W. Oliver wrote: > >>>> Ok folks, I know that this comes up from time to time, and I know very > >>>> well the FreeBSD laptop compatibility list (which rocks!), but I think > >>>> this case is different, and here's why. > >>>> > >>>> I am looking for a new laptop that has the following features: > >>>> > >>>> 1) pointing stick in keyboard *THIS IS A MUST* > >> > >> These are sadly becoming harder to find, despite their obvious superiority > >> to the "touch pad". I was very put off when Toshiba dropped their > >> Satellite Pro line that featured this! I'll have to hang on to my current > >> laptop forever. > > > > IBM are committed to the stick I think. > > Yeah but the keyboards on thinkpads suck. All springy and stiff :) Odd. We have always used ThinkPads in my organization and the keyboard is the one reason IBM has won the last two times we have evaluated laptops on the basis of their excellent keyboards. I did a bit or research into them and IBM actually did human testing to determine the what trained typists liked in terms of force required, length of key travel and tactile feedback and designed their keyboards accordingly. I have loved mine from the first time I used it, though I won't claim to be a trained typist. My only issue with ThinkPads is the price and I've always found them to be worth it. A happy 560, 600E and T30 user. -- R. Kevin Oberman, Network Engineer Energy Sciences Network (ESnet) Ernest O. Lawrence Berkeley National Laboratory (Berkeley Lab) E-mail: oberman@es.net Phone: +1 510 486-8634 From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jul 30 17:54:00 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4435116A4CE for ; Fri, 30 Jul 2004 17:54:00 +0000 (GMT) Received: from virusproxy.wilkshire.net (virusproxy.wilkshire.net [207.206.44.14]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id AD03A43D1F for ; Fri, 30 Jul 2004 17:53:59 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from cody@spintime.org) Received: (qmail 32676 invoked by uid 5020); 30 Jul 2004 18:11:33 -0000 Received: from cody@spintime.org by virusproxy.wilkshire.net by uid 5013 with qmail-scanner-1.22 (clamdscan: 0.75. Clear:RC:1(10.10.55.15):. 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(cody@wilkshire.net@207.206.44.4) by mail.wilkshire.net with SMTP; 30 Jul 2004 17:50:18 -0000 Message-ID: <410A8B0E.707@spintime.org> Date: Fri, 30 Jul 2004 13:53:18 -0400 From: Cody Baker User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 0.6 (Macintosh/20040502) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG References: <20040729182922.470275D08@ptavv.es.net> In-Reply-To: <20040729182922.470275D08@ptavv.es.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Thinkpad 600E and 5.2 X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 30 Jul 2004 17:54:00 -0000 This didn't work for me, infact it seemed to make it just flat out not recognize the cards. I went ahead and put -current on it and it works wonderfully now. Thank you, Cody Baker > >I just fired up my 600E. It's running 5.2-BETA from Dec. of last year. >Something my have broken since then, but I get NEWCARD to work with the >following in /boot/loader.conf: hw.cbb.start_memory="0x20000000" >hw.pci.allow_unsupported_io_range="1" > >My kernel config is: >device cbb >device pccard >device cardbus > >It was not happy with ACPI, so I am running APM. > >My Xircom card seems quite happy there. > > From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jul 30 18:49:10 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2E0ED16A4D0 for ; Fri, 30 Jul 2004 18:49:10 +0000 (GMT) Received: from sage.thought.org (dsl231-043-140.sea1.dsl.speakeasy.net [216.231.43.140]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7620743D2F for ; Fri, 30 Jul 2004 18:49:09 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from kline@tao.thought.org) Received: from thought.org (tao [10.0.0.247]) by sage.thought.org (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id i6UIlwhK064141; Fri, 30 Jul 2004 11:47:59 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kline@tao.thought.org) Received: from tao.thought.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by thought.org (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id i6UIlu2I036075; Fri, 30 Jul 2004 11:47:56 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kline@tao.thought.org) Received: (from kline@localhost) by tao.thought.org (8.12.11/8.12.11/Submit) id i6UIltNm036074; Fri, 30 Jul 2004 11:47:55 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kline) Date: Fri, 30 Jul 2004 11:47:55 -0700 From: Gary Kline To: Cody Baker Message-ID: <20040730184755.GA36047@tao.thought.org> References: <20040729182922.470275D08@ptavv.es.net> <410A8B0E.707@spintime.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <410A8B0E.707@spintime.org> X-Organization: Thought Unlimited. Public service Unix since 1986. X-Of_Interest: Observing 18 years of service to the Unix community User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.6i cc: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Thinkpad 600E and 5.2 X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 30 Jul 2004 18:49:10 -0000 On Fri, Jul 30, 2004 at 01:53:18PM -0400, Cody Baker wrote: > This didn't work for me, infact it seemed to make it just flat out not > recognize the cards. I went ahead and put -current on it and it works > wonderfully now. > Well, at this end, the new configuration still doesn't work. The kernel recognizes the Xircom as a "dc0"; it says the card is a 100baseTX. I've check the cables: good. I've checked everyything else I can think of. No joy. What knd of card do you have? How did you get -current on your 600E without a network link? CDn burner maybe? thanks, gary -- Gary Kline kline@thought.org www.thought.org Public service Unix From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jul 30 19:59:42 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8308516A4CE for ; Fri, 30 Jul 2004 19:59:42 +0000 (GMT) Received: from main.gmane.org (main.gmane.org [80.91.224.249]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B361A43D45 for ; Fri, 30 Jul 2004 19:59:41 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from freebsd-mobile@m.gmane.org) Received: from list by main.gmane.org with local (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 1BqdX3-00028E-00 for ; Fri, 30 Jul 2004 21:59:09 +0200 Received: from makrothumia.wingnet.net ([206.30.215.5]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Fri, 30 Jul 2004 21:59:09 +0200 Received: from jesse by makrothumia.wingnet.net with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Fri, 30 Jul 2004 21:59:09 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org From: Jesse Guardiani Date: Fri, 30 Jul 2004 15:59:05 -0400 Organization: WingNET Lines: 56 Message-ID: References: <20040729213847.T96671@volatile.chemikals.org> <20040730154847.4A6855D08@ptavv.es.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: makrothumia.wingnet.net User-Agent: KNode/0.7.2 X-Mail-Copies-To: never Sender: news Subject: Re: new laptop suggestions - not the usual stuff X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: jesse@wingnet.net List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 30 Jul 2004 19:59:42 -0000 Kevin Oberman wrote: >> Date: Thu, 29 Jul 2004 21:39:16 -0400 (EDT) >> From: Wesley Morgan >> Sender: owner-freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org >> >> On Thu, 29 Jul 2004, Dan Langille wrote: >> >> > On Thu, 29 Jul 2004, Wesley Morgan wrote: >> > >> >> On Thu, 29 Jul 2004, Ray Seals wrote: >> >> >> >>> On Sat, 2004-07-24 at 19:27, Michael W. Oliver wrote: >> >>>> Ok folks, I know that this comes up from time to time, and I know >> >>>> very well the FreeBSD laptop compatibility list (which rocks!), but >> >>>> I think this case is different, and here's why. >> >>>> >> >>>> I am looking for a new laptop that has the following features: >> >>>> >> >>>> 1) pointing stick in keyboard *THIS IS A MUST* >> >> >> >> These are sadly becoming harder to find, despite their obvious >> >> superiority to the "touch pad". I was very put off when Toshiba >> >> dropped their Satellite Pro line that featured this! I'll have to hang >> >> on to my current laptop forever. >> > >> > IBM are committed to the stick I think. >> >> Yeah but the keyboards on thinkpads suck. All springy and stiff :) > > Odd. We have always used ThinkPads in my organization and the keyboard > is the one reason IBM has won the last two times we have evaluated > laptops on the basis of their excellent keyboards. > > I did a bit or research into them and IBM actually did human testing to > determine the what trained typists liked in terms of force required, > length of key travel and tactile feedback and designed their keyboards > accordingly. I have loved mine from the first time I used it, though I > won't claim to be a trained typist. > > My only issue with ThinkPads is the price and I've always found them to > be worth it. > > A happy 560, 600E and T30 user. :) I'm fairly certain Mr. Morgan was attempting to utilize the fine art of sarcasm. It's hard to tell from an email though. I almost wrote a similar rebuttal before I saw the smiley at the end of his comment. -- Jesse Guardiani, Systems Administrator WingNET Internet Services, P.O. Box 2605 // Cleveland, TN 37320-2605 423-559-LINK (v) 423-559-5145 (f) http://www.wingnet.net From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jul 31 06:32:53 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 918B716A4CF for ; Sat, 31 Jul 2004 06:32:53 +0000 (GMT) Received: from web90109.mail.scd.yahoo.com (web90109.mail.scd.yahoo.com [66.218.94.80]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 6E1EC43D4C for ; Sat, 31 Jul 2004 06:32:53 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from freemandyson2001@yahoo.com) Message-ID: <20040731063208.96519.qmail@web90109.mail.scd.yahoo.com> Received: from [199.107.157.27] by web90109.mail.scd.yahoo.com via HTTP; Fri, 30 Jul 2004 23:32:08 PDT Date: Fri, 30 Jul 2004 23:32:08 -0700 (PDT) From: freeman dyson To: Maxim Konovalov , Marian Hettwer In-Reply-To: <20040730111442.P8292@mp2.macomnet.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii cc: freeman dyson cc: freebsd-current@freebsd.org cc: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Subject: Re: 5.2.1 with Linksys WPC54G & NDIS project evil... X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 31 Jul 2004 06:32:53 -0000 aah, thanks, well, the card works fine with noone ( or not many ) other people on the net... but when it gets congested... well, I can't get any pings... no worries, the conference is over... --- Maxim Konovalov wrote: > On Fri, 30 Jul 2004, 09:12+0200, Marian Hettwer > wrote: > > > > > > > Maxim Konovalov wrote: > > > On Thu, 29 Jul 2004, 11:57-0700, freeman dyson > wrote: > > >>I'm Running FreeBSD 5.2.1-RELEASE on a Dell > Latitude. > > >>I have a Linksys WPC54G. I've gotten the > > > > > >>anyone have any sugesstions? > > > > > > > > > I see no problems with WPC64G and ath(4) on my > sony v505bx. Yes, it > > > is -CURRENT, not sure about 5.2.1-R. > > > > > I guess it was a typo, 'cause the thread is about > the WPC54G ... > > However, I was wondering wether it's really > supported by ath(4) in -CURRENT, > > because the WPC54G isn't atheros based. It has > some strange Broadcom Chipset, > > which is AFAIK not supported by ath. > > Also the online manpage of ath(4) is not > mentioning the LinkSys WPC54G. I have > > FreeBSD 5.2.1 running and it's definitly not > supported by ath(4). > > Yes, that was supposed to be WPC54AG, sorry for the > confusion :-| > > -- > Maxim Konovalov > __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? New and Improved Yahoo! Mail - Send 10MB messages! http://promotions.yahoo.com/new_mail From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jul 31 09:28:24 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 33C8F16A4CE; Sat, 31 Jul 2004 09:28:24 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mailhub.intercaf.ru (mailhub.intercaf.ru [195.96.167.50]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3827443D39; Sat, 31 Jul 2004 09:28:23 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from lesha@intercaf.ru) Received: from webmail.intercaf.ru (mail.intercaf.ru [195.96.167.50]) (authenticated bits=0) by mailhub.intercaf.ru (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id i6V9S9XG009772; Sat, 31 Jul 2004 13:28:10 +0400 (MSD) (envelope-from lesha@intercaf.ru) Received: from 192.169.41.44 (proxying for 210.24.210.212) (SquirrelMail authenticated user lesha) by webmail.intercaf.ru with HTTP; Sat, 31 Jul 2004 13:28:10 +0400 (MSD) Message-ID: <51001.192.169.41.44.1091266090.squirrel@webmail.intercaf.ru> Date: Sat, 31 Jul 2004 13:28:10 +0400 (MSD) From: lesha@intercaf.ru To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=koi8-r Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 Importance: Normal X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV version 'clamd / ClamAV version 0.65', clamav-milter version '0.60p' cc: freebsd-net@freebsd.org Subject: Proxim WiFi cards anyone? X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 31 Jul 2004 09:28:24 -0000 Hello, all! Today I have bought myself new Proxim Orinoco Gold b/g card to replace my old Lucent Orinoco b one. New card is working fine with the ath driver, but... Signal strength and radio perfomance are very nasty. Where my old card gave me signal strength of 106 new one gives only 51. (that is 5m away from AP) (same AP, same channels, same everything) It is not working even in next room to the AP. What can be the problem, or just Proxim got lame engineers? (behavior is same under "the Other OS" Transmit power is set to "Maximum" in supplied configuration utility. Cheers, AL. p.s. pls CC, so I will not loose your reply. From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jul 31 17:04:22 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9739916A4CE for ; Sat, 31 Jul 2004 17:04:22 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mta02-svc.ntlworld.com (mta02-svc.ntlworld.com [62.253.162.42]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 958A943D41 for ; Sat, 31 Jul 2004 17:04:21 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from scott@fishballoon.org) Received: from llama.fishballoon.org ([81.104.195.124]) by mta02-svc.ntlworld.comESMTP <20040731163804.RUPO12282.mta02-svc.ntlworld.com@llama.fishballoon.org>; Sat, 31 Jul 2004 17:38:04 +0100 Received: from tuatara.fishballoon.org ([192.168.1.6]) by llama.fishballoon.org with esmtp (Exim 4.40 (FreeBSD)) id 1BqwtG-0008Wy-Mm; Sat, 31 Jul 2004 17:39:22 +0100 Received: (from scott@localhost) by tuatara.fishballoon.org (8.12.11/8.12.11/Submit) id i6VGdL4J000722; Sat, 31 Jul 2004 17:39:21 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from scott) Date: Sat, 31 Jul 2004 17:39:21 +0100 From: Scott Mitchell To: Gary Kline Message-ID: <20040731163921.GB466@tuatara.fishballoon.org> References: <20040729002424.061055D08@ptavv.es.net> <20040729170844.GA187@tao.thought.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20040729170844.GA187@tao.thought.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 4.10-STABLE i386 cc: FreeBSD Mobile Mailing List Subject: Re: Thinkpad 600E and 5.2 X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 31 Jul 2004 17:04:22 -0000 On Thu, Jul 29, 2004 at 10:08:44AM -0700, Gary Kline wrote: > Closer. After I rebuild the kernel with target OLDCARD, and > rebooted (withh Xircom Ethernet II 10/100 inserted, no more > kernel traps. > > I added > > pccard_ether xe0 start link0 > > to rc.conf and rebooted. Zero. The cabling is solid. > The defaultrouter="10.0.0.1" entry doesn't seem to > have any effect. I set get the "Setup PC-CARD" message > when coming up. How do I get into this setup? Am I > missing some sysctl cmd? Anything else? > > gary Hi Gary, Could you post your full /etc/rc.conf and /var/run/dmesg.boot? The hardware you've got there should work, so I'm guessing this is just a configuration issue. For reference, the only stuff I have in my rc.conf to enable xe0 on my TP380D is: ifconfig_xe0="DHCP" pccard_enable="YES" If you're not using DHCP, obviously put something else in the ifconfig_xe0 line. Using pccard_enable is important - you're running an OLDCARD kernel so you need to make sure that pccardd is started to attach the card. Cheers, Scott -- =========================================================================== Scott Mitchell | PGP Key ID | "Eagles may soar, but weasels Cambridge, England | 0x54B171B9 | don't get sucked into jet engines" scott at fishballoon.org | 0xAA775B8B | -- Anon From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jul 31 21:22:55 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 14C3616A4CE for ; Sat, 31 Jul 2004 21:22:55 +0000 (GMT) Received: from sage.thought.org (dsl231-043-140.sea1.dsl.speakeasy.net [216.231.43.140]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5A9F643D39 for ; Sat, 31 Jul 2004 21:22:48 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from kline@tao.thought.org) Received: from thought.org (tao [10.0.0.247]) by sage.thought.org (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id i6VLLYhK097268; Sat, 31 Jul 2004 14:21:41 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kline@tao.thought.org) Received: from tao.thought.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by thought.org (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id i6VLLA0E070886; Sat, 31 Jul 2004 14:21:16 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kline@tao.thought.org) Received: (from kline@localhost) by tao.thought.org (8.12.11/8.12.11/Submit) id i6VLL6OO070885; Sat, 31 Jul 2004 14:21:06 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kline) Date: Sat, 31 Jul 2004 14:21:04 -0700 From: Gary Kline To: Scott Mitchell Message-ID: <20040731212104.GB70627@tao.thought.org> References: <20040729002424.061055D08@ptavv.es.net> <20040729170844.GA187@tao.thought.org> <20040731163921.GB466@tuatara.fishballoon.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20040731163921.GB466@tuatara.fishballoon.org> X-Organization: Thought Unlimited. Public service Unix since 1986. X-Of_Interest: Observing 18 years of service to the Unix community User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.6i cc: FreeBSD Mobile Mailing List Subject: Re: Thinkpad 600E and 5.2 X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 31 Jul 2004 21:22:55 -0000 On Sat, Jul 31, 2004 at 05:39:21PM +0100, Scott Mitchell wrote: > On Thu, Jul 29, 2004 at 10:08:44AM -0700, Gary Kline wrote: > > Closer. After I rebuild the kernel with target OLDCARD, and > > rebooted (withh Xircom Ethernet II 10/100 inserted, no more > > kernel traps. > > > > I added > > > > pccard_ether xe0 start link0 > > > > to rc.conf and rebooted. Zero. The cabling is solid. > > The defaultrouter="10.0.0.1" entry doesn't seem to > > have any effect. I set get the "Setup PC-CARD" message > > when coming up. How do I get into this setup? Am I > > missing some sysctl cmd? Anything else? > > > > gary > > Hi Gary, > > Could you post your full /etc/rc.conf and /var/run/dmesg.boot? The > hardware you've got there should work, so I'm guessing this is just a > configuration issue. > > For reference, the only stuff I have in my rc.conf to enable xe0 on my > TP380D is: > ifconfig_xe0="DHCP" > pccard_enable="YES" > > If you're not using DHCP, obviously put something else in the ifconfig_xe0 > line. Using pccard_enable is important - you're running an OLDCARD kernel > so you need to make sure that pccardd is started to attach the card. > Hm. I'm running GENERIC again, after running with the OLDCARD configuration failed. The system does recognize my Xircom, but as "dc0" But when I boot with ifconfig_dc0="DHCP" I run into 'watchdog timeout' errs (prob'ly from dhclient). My card is a Xircom Ethernet II 10/100 CBE2-100. If your card is identical, I'll go back to the OLDCARD conf and try again. thanks much, gary -- Gary Kline kline@thought.org www.thought.org Public service Unix From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jul 31 22:22:37 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CE32416A4CE for ; Sat, 31 Jul 2004 22:22:37 +0000 (GMT) Received: from postal2.es.net (postal2.es.net [198.128.3.206]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B51C043D3F for ; Sat, 31 Jul 2004 22:22:37 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from oberman@es.net) Received: from ptavv.es.net ([198.128.4.29]) by postal2.es.net (Postal Node 2) with ESMTP (SSL) id IBA74465; Sat, 31 Jul 2004 15:22:37 -0700 Received: from ptavv (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ptavv.es.net (Tachyon Server) with ESMTP id 33CDF5D08; Sat, 31 Jul 2004 15:22:37 -0700 (PDT) To: Gary Kline In-reply-to: Your message of "Sat, 31 Jul 2004 14:21:04 PDT." <20040731212104.GB70627@tao.thought.org> Date: Sat, 31 Jul 2004 15:22:37 -0700 From: "Kevin Oberman" Message-Id: <20040731222237.33CDF5D08@ptavv.es.net> cc: Scott Mitchell cc: FreeBSD Mobile Mailing List Subject: Re: Thinkpad 600E and 5.2 X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 31 Jul 2004 22:22:38 -0000 > Date: Sat, 31 Jul 2004 14:21:04 -0700 > From: Gary Kline > Sender: owner-freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org > > On Sat, Jul 31, 2004 at 05:39:21PM +0100, Scott Mitchell wrote: > > On Thu, Jul 29, 2004 at 10:08:44AM -0700, Gary Kline wrote: > > > Closer. After I rebuild the kernel with target OLDCARD, and > > > rebooted (withh Xircom Ethernet II 10/100 inserted, no more > > > kernel traps. > > > > > > I added > > > > > > pccard_ether xe0 start link0 > > > > > > to rc.conf and rebooted. Zero. The cabling is solid. > > > The defaultrouter="10.0.0.1" entry doesn't seem to > > > have any effect. I set get the "Setup PC-CARD" message > > > when coming up. How do I get into this setup? Am I > > > missing some sysctl cmd? Anything else? > > > > > > gary > > > > Hi Gary, > > > > Could you post your full /etc/rc.conf and /var/run/dmesg.boot? The > > hardware you've got there should work, so I'm guessing this is just a > > configuration issue. > > > > For reference, the only stuff I have in my rc.conf to enable xe0 on my > > TP380D is: > > ifconfig_xe0="DHCP" > > pccard_enable="YES" > > > > If you're not using DHCP, obviously put something else in the ifconfig_xe0 > > line. Using pccard_enable is important - you're running an OLDCARD kernel > > so you need to make sure that pccardd is started to attach the card. > > > > Hm. I'm running GENERIC again, after running with the OLDCARD > configuration failed. The system does recognize my Xircom, > but as "dc0" But when I boot with ifconfig_dc0="DHCP" I > run into 'watchdog timeout' errs (prob'ly from dhclient). > > My card is a Xircom Ethernet II 10/100 CBE2-100. If your > card is identical, I'll go back to the OLDCARD conf and > try again. Don't bother trying OLDCARD. The CBE2-100 is a CardBus card and will not work with OLDCARD at all. I have almost the same card, the RBEM100-56G. This is the Realport version that also includes a 56K Global modem. This card does use the dc(4) driver. -- R. Kevin Oberman, Network Engineer Energy Sciences Network (ESnet) Ernest O. Lawrence Berkeley National Laboratory (Berkeley Lab) E-mail: oberman@es.net Phone: +1 510 486-8634 From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jul 31 23:12:19 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D797416A4CE; Sat, 31 Jul 2004 23:12:19 +0000 (GMT) Received: from harmony.village.org (rover.village.org [168.103.84.182]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5908043D1F; Sat, 31 Jul 2004 23:12:17 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from imp@bsdimp.com) Received: from localhost (warner@rover2.village.org [10.0.0.1]) by harmony.village.org (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id i6VNC2hm002578; Sat, 31 Jul 2004 17:12:02 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from imp@bsdimp.com) Date: Sat, 31 Jul 2004 17:12:29 -0600 (MDT) Message-Id: <20040731.171229.29785775.imp@bsdimp.com> To: lesha@intercaf.ru From: "M. Warner Losh" In-Reply-To: <51001.192.169.41.44.1091266090.squirrel@webmail.intercaf.ru> References: <51001.192.169.41.44.1091266090.squirrel@webmail.intercaf.ru> X-Mailer: Mew version 3.3 on Emacs 21.3 / Mule 5.0 (SAKAKI) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: freebsd-net@freebsd.org cc: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Proxim WiFi cards anyone? X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 31 Jul 2004 23:12:20 -0000 In message: <51001.192.169.41.44.1091266090.squirrel@webmail.intercaf.ru> lesha@intercaf.ru writes: : Hello, all! : : : Today I have bought myself new Proxim Orinoco Gold b/g card : to replace my old Lucent Orinoco b one. : : New card is working fine with the ath driver, but... : Signal strength and radio perfomance are very nasty. : : Where my old card gave me signal strength of 106 : new one gives only 51. (that is 5m away from AP) : (same AP, same channels, same everything) : : It is not working even in next room to the AP. : : What can be the problem, or just Proxim got lame engineers? Lame antenna. Also, the signal strength, as reported by FreeBSD, can be radically different when the RF levels are exactly the same. Different firmware has different formulas to convert the values that are reported. Also, different antennas have different gains. Warner