From owner-freebsd-amd64@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jun 12 03:36:49 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 965B516A41C for ; Sun, 12 Jun 2005 03:36:49 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from lists@natserv.com) Received: from mail1.acecape.com (mail1.acecape.com [66.114.74.12]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 47C4543D48 for ; Sun, 12 Jun 2005 03:36:49 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from lists@natserv.com) Received: from zoraida.natserv.net (p65-147.acedsl.com [66.114.65.147]) by mail1.acecape.com (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5C3alBa008178; Sat, 11 Jun 2005 23:36:48 -0400 Date: Sat, 11 Jun 2005 23:36:47 -0400 (EDT) From: Francisco Reyes X-X-Sender: fran@zoraida.natserv.net To: Artur In-Reply-To: <556900035.20050611203150@robart.pl> Message-ID: <20050611233327.V46123@zoraida.natserv.net> References: <1829986263.20050609092653@robart.pl> <20050609121211.X20877@zoraida.natserv.net> <42A8724F.1000706@samsco.org> <20050609133320.S21358@zoraida.natserv.net> <42A87EBC.9080405@samsco.org> <20050609135551.X21453@zoraida.natserv.net> <556900035.20050611203150@robart.pl> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org Subject: Re[2]: Freebsd on motherboard GIGABYTE GA-K8NF-9 X-BeenThere: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the AMD64 platform List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 12 Jun 2005 03:36:49 -0000 On Sat, 11 Jun 2005, Artur wrote: > so i installed freebsd 5.4 and the raid on sata isn't working. > Maybe i'm doing something wrong but freebsd saw it as 2 separates That means FreeBSD doesn't recognise that RAID card. > ethernet card on motherboard didn't run too. Likely not recognized either. > on http://www.freebsd.org/releases/5.4R/hardware-amd64.html > i didn't see on this list NIC D-Link DGE-530T > but it does work under 5.4 as device 'sk0' > should i report it somewhere ? For starters if that motherboard is not already listed you can report from the AMD64 motherboard list. There is a link to the www send-pr interface. I think you need to select "www" for the category. I think you can use the same interface to report the network card too. From owner-freebsd-amd64@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jun 12 05:18:54 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5FD1B16A41C for ; Sun, 12 Jun 2005 05:18:54 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from astrodog@gmail.com) Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.202]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EE1C543D49 for ; Sun, 12 Jun 2005 05:18:53 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from astrodog@gmail.com) Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 69so668223wra for ; Sat, 11 Jun 2005 22:18:53 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=K/QrRBbervI0Sq6vuf8qyXhBfxnHU2XzF8rugQnNBMRXU8bZ+kTvZ468J6QkuRGBwDRaQwHScvco+lkcDjzRUhBDthu2a3A9rolJLKDCb8ezZdSZxRvtOaQ0ZQHcHONYKonV5CxzTizcqcbh8ACA5z0Uwcf4b6s+lJfwNsnW4U4= Received: by 10.54.10.7 with SMTP id 7mr1813591wrj; Sat, 11 Jun 2005 22:18:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.40.66 with HTTP; Sat, 11 Jun 2005 22:18:53 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <2fd864e0506112218187724d6@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sat, 11 Jun 2005 22:18:53 -0700 From: Astrodog To: Francisco Reyes In-Reply-To: <20050611233327.V46123@zoraida.natserv.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline References: <1829986263.20050609092653@robart.pl> <20050609121211.X20877@zoraida.natserv.net> <42A8724F.1000706@samsco.org> <20050609133320.S21358@zoraida.natserv.net> <42A87EBC.9080405@samsco.org> <20050609135551.X21453@zoraida.natserv.net> <556900035.20050611203150@robart.pl> <20050611233327.V46123@zoraida.natserv.net> Cc: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Re[2]: Freebsd on motherboard GIGABYTE GA-K8NF-9 X-BeenThere: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Astrodog List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the AMD64 platform List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 12 Jun 2005 05:18:54 -0000 On 6/11/05, Francisco Reyes wrote: > On Sat, 11 Jun 2005, Artur wrote: >=20 > > so i installed freebsd 5.4 and the raid on sata isn't working. > > Maybe i'm doing something wrong but freebsd saw it as 2 separates >=20 > That means FreeBSD doesn't recognise that RAID card. >=20 At a terminal, use atacontrol to create a software RAID atacontrol create RAID0 64 ad? ad? Or, atacontrol create RAID1 ad? ad? for RAID1 > > ethernet card on motherboard didn't run too. >=20 > Likely not recognized either. >=20 > > on http://www.freebsd.org/releases/5.4R/hardware-amd64.html > > i didn't see on this list NIC D-Link DGE-530T > > but it does work under 5.4 as device 'sk0' > > should i report it somewhere ? >=20 > For starters if that motherboard is not already listed you can report fro= m > the AMD64 motherboard list. There is a link to the www send-pr interface. > I think you need to select "www" for the category. >=20 > I think you can use the same interface to report the network card too. > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-amd64 > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-amd64-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-amd64@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jun 12 08:30:10 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ABCD916A41C for ; Sun, 12 Jun 2005 08:30:10 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from bzeeb-lists@lists.zabbadoz.net) Received: from transport.cksoft.de (transport.cksoft.de [62.111.66.27]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 414B643D1F for ; Sun, 12 Jun 2005 08:30:09 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from bzeeb-lists@lists.zabbadoz.net) Received: from transport.cksoft.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by transport.cksoft.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8666A1FFAD2; Sun, 12 Jun 2005 10:30:07 +0200 (CEST) Received: by transport.cksoft.de (Postfix, from userid 66) id 456151FFACE; Sun, 12 Jun 2005 10:30:05 +0200 (CEST) Received: by mail.int.zabbadoz.net (Postfix, from userid 1060) id 89DB715839; Sun, 12 Jun 2005 08:25:47 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.int.zabbadoz.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 87A04157EE; Sun, 12 Jun 2005 08:25:47 +0000 (UTC) Date: Sun, 12 Jun 2005 08:25:47 +0000 (UTC) From: "Bjoern A. Zeeb" X-X-Sender: bz@e0-0.zab2.int.zabbadoz.net To: Artur In-Reply-To: <556900035.20050611203150@robart.pl> Message-ID: References: <1829986263.20050609092653@robart.pl> <20050609121211.X20877@zoraida.natserv.net> <42A8724F.1000706@samsco.org> <20050609133320.S21358@zoraida.natserv.net> <42A87EBC.9080405@samsco.org> <20050609135551.X21453@zoraida.natserv.net> <556900035.20050611203150@robart.pl> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Virus-Scanned: by AMaViS cksoft-s20020300-20031204bz on transport.cksoft.de Cc: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org Subject: Re[2]: Freebsd on motherboard GIGABYTE GA-K8NF-9 X-BeenThere: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the AMD64 platform List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 12 Jun 2005 08:30:10 -0000 On Sat, 11 Jun 2005, Artur wrote: Hi, > and final questuion: > > on http://www.freebsd.org/releases/5.4R/hardware-amd64.html > i didn't see on this list NIC D-Link DGE-530T > but it does work under 5.4 as device 'sk0' > should i report it somewhere ? No. I committed that to the man page to HEAD and RELENG_5 but it was decided to not merge it to 5.4R because it had been few days before the release. -- Bjoern A. Zeeb bzeeb at Zabbadoz dot NeT From owner-freebsd-amd64@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jun 12 22:00:36 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-amd64@hub.freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-amd64@hub.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E428716A41C for ; Sun, 12 Jun 2005 22:00:36 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 91C9A43D4C for ; Sun, 12 Jun 2005 22:00:36 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (gnats@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.13.3/8.13.3) with ESMTP id j5CM0aCr011279 for ; Sun, 12 Jun 2005 22:00:36 GMT (envelope-from gnats@freefall.freebsd.org) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.13.3/8.13.1/Submit) id j5CM0a5W011276; Sun, 12 Jun 2005 22:00:36 GMT (envelope-from gnats) Resent-Date: Sun, 12 Jun 2005 22:00:36 GMT Resent-Message-Id: <200506122200.j5CM0a5W011276@freefall.freebsd.org> Resent-From: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.org (GNATS Filer) Resent-To: freebsd-amd64@FreeBSD.org Resent-Reply-To: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.org, morgothdbma Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7D30A16A451 for ; Sun, 12 Jun 2005 21:57:50 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from nobody@FreeBSD.org) Received: from www.freebsd.org (www.freebsd.org [216.136.204.117]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3E73043D53 for ; Sun, 12 Jun 2005 21:57:50 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from nobody@FreeBSD.org) Received: from www.freebsd.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by www.freebsd.org (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id j5CLvnOQ025480 for ; Sun, 12 Jun 2005 21:57:49 GMT (envelope-from nobody@www.freebsd.org) Received: (from nobody@localhost) by www.freebsd.org (8.13.1/8.13.1/Submit) id j5CLvn01025467; Sun, 12 Jun 2005 21:57:49 GMT (envelope-from nobody) Message-Id: <200506122157.j5CLvn01025467@www.freebsd.org> Date: Sun, 12 Jun 2005 21:57:49 GMT From: morgothdbma To: freebsd-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.org X-Send-Pr-Version: www-2.3 Cc: Subject: amd64/82176: ehci causes crash on amd64 X-BeenThere: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the AMD64 platform List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 12 Jun 2005 22:00:37 -0000 >Number: 82176 >Category: amd64 >Synopsis: ehci causes crash on amd64 >Confidential: no >Severity: serious >Priority: high >Responsible: freebsd-amd64 >State: open >Quarter: >Keywords: >Date-Required: >Class: sw-bug >Submitter-Id: current-users >Arrival-Date: Sun Jun 12 22:00:36 GMT 2005 >Closed-Date: >Last-Modified: >Originator: morgothdbma >Release: 5.4 >Organization: >Environment: FreeBSD 5.4 Starlight amd64 >Description: When using ehci driver for my external HDD (Seagate 160 Gb) with USB2.0 transfers (>20mb/s) causes system to hang. For example: mplayer some-film-on-usb.mpeg, and cp /usb/many/files /home/morgoth/bla >How-To-Repeat: heavy load on amd64 using USB2.0 transfers from external disk >Fix: use ohci instead (but 1.00 mb/s transfers :-(( ) >Release-Note: >Audit-Trail: >Unformatted: From owner-freebsd-amd64@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jun 12 22:10:23 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-amd64@hub.freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-amd64@hub.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A923716A41C for ; Sun, 12 Jun 2005 22:10:23 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3E68843D53 for ; Sun, 12 Jun 2005 22:10:23 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (gnats@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.13.3/8.13.3) with ESMTP id j5CMAN1A015723 for ; Sun, 12 Jun 2005 22:10:23 GMT (envelope-from gnats@freefall.freebsd.org) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.13.3/8.13.1/Submit) id j5CMANw5015722; Sun, 12 Jun 2005 22:10:23 GMT (envelope-from gnats) Resent-Date: Sun, 12 Jun 2005 22:10:23 GMT Resent-Message-Id: <200506122210.j5CMANw5015722@freefall.freebsd.org> Resent-From: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.org (GNATS Filer) Resent-To: freebsd-amd64@FreeBSD.org Resent-Reply-To: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.org, morgothdbma Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5B9F716A41C for ; Sun, 12 Jun 2005 22:04:33 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from nobody@FreeBSD.org) Received: from www.freebsd.org (www.freebsd.org [216.136.204.117]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2509243D1D for ; Sun, 12 Jun 2005 22:04:33 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from nobody@FreeBSD.org) Received: from www.freebsd.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by www.freebsd.org (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id j5CM4XMm030674 for ; Sun, 12 Jun 2005 22:04:33 GMT (envelope-from nobody@www.freebsd.org) Received: (from nobody@localhost) by www.freebsd.org (8.13.1/8.13.1/Submit) id j5CM4WB7030655; Sun, 12 Jun 2005 22:04:32 GMT (envelope-from nobody) Message-Id: <200506122204.j5CM4WB7030655@www.freebsd.org> Date: Sun, 12 Jun 2005 22:04:32 GMT From: morgothdbma To: freebsd-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.org X-Send-Pr-Version: www-2.3 Cc: Subject: amd64/82177: missing hardware acceleration for ati radeon 9200 on amd64 X-BeenThere: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the AMD64 platform List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 12 Jun 2005 22:10:23 -0000 >Number: 82177 >Category: amd64 >Synopsis: missing hardware acceleration for ati radeon 9200 on amd64 >Confidential: no >Severity: non-critical >Priority: medium >Responsible: freebsd-amd64 >State: open >Quarter: >Keywords: >Date-Required: >Class: change-request >Submitter-Id: current-users >Arrival-Date: Sun Jun 12 22:10:22 GMT 2005 >Closed-Date: >Last-Modified: >Originator: morgothdbma >Release: 5.4 >Organization: >Environment: FreeBSD 5.4 amd64 (STARLIGHT) >Description: HAccel don't work for ati radeon 9200 on amd64 >How-To-Repeat: it is hard not to repeat >Fix: fix ati kernel driver? newer X.org?? >Release-Note: >Audit-Trail: >Unformatted: From owner-freebsd-amd64@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jun 12 22:10:23 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-amd64@hub.freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-amd64@hub.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EE21C16A41C for ; Sun, 12 Jun 2005 22:10:23 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 90F9643D4C for ; Sun, 12 Jun 2005 22:10:23 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (gnats@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.13.3/8.13.3) with ESMTP id j5CMANHU015780 for ; Sun, 12 Jun 2005 22:10:23 GMT (envelope-from gnats@freefall.freebsd.org) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.13.3/8.13.1/Submit) id j5CMANHH015779; Sun, 12 Jun 2005 22:10:23 GMT (envelope-from gnats) Resent-Date: Sun, 12 Jun 2005 22:10:23 GMT Resent-Message-Id: <200506122210.j5CMANHH015779@freefall.freebsd.org> Resent-From: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.org (GNATS Filer) Resent-To: freebsd-amd64@FreeBSD.org Resent-Reply-To: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.org, morgothdbma Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2969D16A41C for ; Sun, 12 Jun 2005 22:10:12 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from nobody@FreeBSD.org) Received: from www.freebsd.org (www.freebsd.org [216.136.204.117]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0918E43D49 for ; Sun, 12 Jun 2005 22:10:12 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from nobody@FreeBSD.org) Received: from www.freebsd.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by www.freebsd.org (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id j5CMABUW044551 for ; Sun, 12 Jun 2005 22:10:11 GMT (envelope-from nobody@www.freebsd.org) Received: (from nobody@localhost) by www.freebsd.org (8.13.1/8.13.1/Submit) id j5CMABJd044550; Sun, 12 Jun 2005 22:10:11 GMT (envelope-from nobody) Message-Id: <200506122210.j5CMABJd044550@www.freebsd.org> Date: Sun, 12 Jun 2005 22:10:11 GMT From: morgothdbma To: freebsd-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.org X-Send-Pr-Version: www-2.3 Cc: Subject: amd64/82178: missing 32bit subsystem X-BeenThere: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the AMD64 platform List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 12 Jun 2005 22:10:24 -0000 >Number: 82178 >Category: amd64 >Synopsis: missing 32bit subsystem >Confidential: no >Severity: non-critical >Priority: low >Responsible: freebsd-amd64 >State: open >Quarter: >Keywords: >Date-Required: >Class: change-request >Submitter-Id: current-users >Arrival-Date: Sun Jun 12 22:10:23 GMT 2005 >Closed-Date: >Last-Modified: >Originator: morgothdbma >Release: 5.4 >Organization: >Environment: FreeBSD 5.4 amd64 (STARLIGHT) >Description: each time I want to run FreeBSD i386 binary I have answer that I haven't ld-elf32.so, I copied that library where system wanted me to, but now it wants libc.so.5, I cannot replace my 64bit libc.so with 32bit libc.so, mayby I shoul copy all 32bit files somewhere like /usr/32bit_world or something else. I don't know, can U tell me how to setup a 32bit subsytem inside 64bit system, I want at least run simple C programs. BTW: is there 32bit/64bit linux emulation in FreeBSD 5.4 amd64 >How-To-Repeat: just try to run 32bit FreeBSD i386 hello world application on FreeBSD amd64 (dynamically linked) >Fix: some special hierarchy for 32bit apps and libs ... chroot ?? >Release-Note: >Audit-Trail: >Unformatted: From owner-freebsd-amd64@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jun 12 22:20:14 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-amd64@hub.freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-amd64@hub.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 79CBE16A41C for ; Sun, 12 Jun 2005 22:20:14 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3408243D53 for ; Sun, 12 Jun 2005 22:20:14 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (gnats@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.13.3/8.13.3) with ESMTP id j5CMKEm9016043 for ; Sun, 12 Jun 2005 22:20:14 GMT (envelope-from gnats@freefall.freebsd.org) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.13.3/8.13.1/Submit) id j5CMKDsC016040; Sun, 12 Jun 2005 22:20:14 GMT (envelope-from gnats) Resent-Date: Sun, 12 Jun 2005 22:20:14 GMT Resent-Message-Id: <200506122220.j5CMKDsC016040@freefall.freebsd.org> Resent-From: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.org (GNATS Filer) Resent-To: freebsd-amd64@FreeBSD.org Resent-Reply-To: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.org, morgothdbma Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3BDD516A41C for ; Sun, 12 Jun 2005 22:13:34 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from nobody@FreeBSD.org) Received: from www.freebsd.org (www.freebsd.org [216.136.204.117]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0505443D49 for ; Sun, 12 Jun 2005 22:13:34 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from nobody@FreeBSD.org) Received: from www.freebsd.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by www.freebsd.org (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id j5CMDXlk045408 for ; Sun, 12 Jun 2005 22:13:33 GMT (envelope-from nobody@www.freebsd.org) Received: (from nobody@localhost) by www.freebsd.org (8.13.1/8.13.1/Submit) id j5CMDXKi045407; Sun, 12 Jun 2005 22:13:33 GMT (envelope-from nobody) Message-Id: <200506122213.j5CMDXKi045407@www.freebsd.org> Date: Sun, 12 Jun 2005 22:13:33 GMT From: morgothdbma To: freebsd-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.org X-Send-Pr-Version: www-2.3 Cc: Subject: amd64/82179: There is no box-magazine edition of FreeBSD for amd64 (only for i386) X-BeenThere: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the AMD64 platform List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 12 Jun 2005 22:20:14 -0000 >Number: 82179 >Category: amd64 >Synopsis: There is no box-magazine edition of FreeBSD for amd64 (only for i386) >Confidential: no >Severity: non-critical >Priority: low >Responsible: freebsd-amd64 >State: open >Quarter: >Keywords: >Date-Required: >Class: change-request >Submitter-Id: current-users >Arrival-Date: Sun Jun 12 22:20:13 GMT 2005 >Closed-Date: >Last-Modified: >Originator: morgothdbma >Release: 5.4 >Organization: >Environment: FreeBSD 5.4 amd64 (STARLIGHT) >Description: Every 4.X and 5.X FreeBSD version has box/magazine release in my country (poland) but the problem is there is only release for i386 arch, when arch amd64 magazine will be released ?? >How-To-Repeat: - >Fix: just release version for amd64 with FreeBSD 5.5 >Release-Note: >Audit-Trail: >Unformatted: From owner-freebsd-amd64@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jun 12 22:26:12 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-amd64@hub.freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-amd64@hub.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DC96416A436; Sun, 12 Jun 2005 22:26:12 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from pav@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A43FC43D1F; Sun, 12 Jun 2005 22:26:12 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from pav@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (pav@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.13.3/8.13.3) with ESMTP id j5CMQCcX016398; Sun, 12 Jun 2005 22:26:12 GMT (envelope-from pav@freefall.freebsd.org) Received: (from pav@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.13.3/8.13.1/Submit) id j5CMQCEu016394; Sun, 12 Jun 2005 22:26:12 GMT (envelope-from pav) Date: Sun, 12 Jun 2005 22:26:12 GMT From: Pav Lucistnik Message-Id: <200506122226.j5CMQCEu016394@freefall.freebsd.org> To: morgothdbma@o2.pl, pav@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-amd64@FreeBSD.org Cc: Subject: Re: amd64/82179: There is no box-magazine edition of FreeBSD for amd64 (only for i386) X-BeenThere: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the AMD64 platform List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 12 Jun 2005 22:26:13 -0000 Synopsis: There is no box-magazine edition of FreeBSD for amd64 (only for i386) State-Changed-From-To: open->closed State-Changed-By: pav State-Changed-When: Sun Jun 12 22:25:57 GMT 2005 State-Changed-Why: There's nothing we can do. You should ask publishers of your favourite magazine. http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=82179 From owner-freebsd-amd64@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jun 12 22:27:20 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-amd64@hub.freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-amd64@hub.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3EEB116A41F; Sun, 12 Jun 2005 22:27:20 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from pav@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F39F443D48; Sun, 12 Jun 2005 22:27:19 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from pav@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (pav@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.13.3/8.13.3) with ESMTP id j5CMRJNg016465; Sun, 12 Jun 2005 22:27:19 GMT (envelope-from pav@freefall.freebsd.org) Received: (from pav@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.13.3/8.13.1/Submit) id j5CMRJA4016461; Sun, 12 Jun 2005 22:27:19 GMT (envelope-from pav) Date: Sun, 12 Jun 2005 22:27:19 GMT From: Pav Lucistnik Message-Id: <200506122227.j5CMRJA4016461@freefall.freebsd.org> To: morgothdbma@o2.pl, pav@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-amd64@FreeBSD.org Cc: Subject: Re: amd64/82177: missing hardware acceleration for ati radeon 9200 on amd64 X-BeenThere: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the AMD64 platform List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 12 Jun 2005 22:27:20 -0000 Synopsis: missing hardware acceleration for ati radeon 9200 on amd64 State-Changed-From-To: open->closed State-Changed-By: pav State-Changed-When: Sun Jun 12 22:26:17 GMT 2005 State-Changed-Why: Works for me. Maybe if you can give us details about specific problem, but in general both 2D, 3D and xv hardware acceleration works on my Radeon 9200SE card here with xorg-server-snap, dri and stuff. http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=82177 From owner-freebsd-amd64@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jun 12 22:28:55 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-amd64@hub.freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-amd64@hub.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D44B016A41F; Sun, 12 Jun 2005 22:28:55 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from pav@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9FED243D55; Sun, 12 Jun 2005 22:28:55 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from pav@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (pav@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.13.3/8.13.3) with ESMTP id j5CMStq6016531; Sun, 12 Jun 2005 22:28:55 GMT (envelope-from pav@freefall.freebsd.org) Received: (from pav@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.13.3/8.13.1/Submit) id j5CMStFx016527; Sun, 12 Jun 2005 22:28:55 GMT (envelope-from pav) Date: Sun, 12 Jun 2005 22:28:55 GMT From: Pav Lucistnik Message-Id: <200506122228.j5CMStFx016527@freefall.freebsd.org> To: morgothdbma@o2.pl, pav@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-amd64@FreeBSD.org Cc: Subject: Re: amd64/82176: ehci causes crash on amd64 X-BeenThere: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the AMD64 platform List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 12 Jun 2005 22:28:55 -0000 Synopsis: ehci causes crash on amd64 State-Changed-From-To: open->feedback State-Changed-By: pav State-Changed-When: Sun Jun 12 22:28:26 GMT 2005 State-Changed-Why: Care to provide details, like, kernel tracebacks? http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=82176 From owner-freebsd-amd64@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jun 12 23:20:26 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-amd64@hub.freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-amd64@hub.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D813A16A41C for ; Sun, 12 Jun 2005 23:20:26 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B248F43D1D for ; Sun, 12 Jun 2005 23:20:26 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (gnats@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.13.3/8.13.3) with ESMTP id j5CNKQVt023115 for ; Sun, 12 Jun 2005 23:20:26 GMT (envelope-from gnats@freefall.freebsd.org) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.13.3/8.13.1/Submit) id j5CNKQAF023114; Sun, 12 Jun 2005 23:20:26 GMT (envelope-from gnats) Date: Sun, 12 Jun 2005 23:20:26 GMT Message-Id: <200506122320.j5CNKQAF023114@freefall.freebsd.org> To: freebsd-amd64@FreeBSD.org From: Steve Kargl Cc: Subject: Re: amd64/82178: missing 32bit subsystem X-BeenThere: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Steve Kargl List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the AMD64 platform List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 12 Jun 2005 23:20:27 -0000 The following reply was made to PR amd64/82178; it has been noted by GNATS. From: Steve Kargl To: morgothdbma Cc: freebsd-gnats-submit@freebsd.org Subject: Re: amd64/82178: missing 32bit subsystem Date: Sun, 12 Jun 2005 16:12:03 -0700 On Sun, Jun 12, 2005 at 10:10:11PM +0000, morgothdbma wrote: > > >Synopsis: missing 32bit subsystem > each time I want to run FreeBSD i386 binary I have answer > that I haven't ld-elf32.so, I copied that library where system > wanted me to, but now it wants libc.so.5, I cannot replace my 64bit > libc.so with 32bit libc.so, mayby I shoul copy all 32bit files > somewhere like /usr/32bit_world or something else. > I don't know, can U tell me how to setup a 32bit subsytem inside > 64bit system, I want at least run simple C programs. BTW: is there > 32bit/64bit linux emulation in FreeBSD 5.4 amd64 Please read the freebsd-amd64 mailing list archive. There is ample information there to help answer your problem. In short, install the source tree. Add WITH_LIB32=yes to /etc/make.conf. Add options COMPAT_IA32 #Compatible with i386 binaries options LINPROCFS options COMPAT_43 options COMPAT_LINUX32 to your kernel configuration file. Follow the instructions in /usr/src/UPDATING on procedure for updating your system. After the system has rebooted, install the linux ports you want. You'll definitely want linux-XFree86-libs-4.3.99.902_2 XFree86 libraries, Linux binary linux_base-8-8.0_6 Base set of packages needed in Linux mode (only for i386) -- Steve From owner-freebsd-amd64@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 13 02:13:00 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-amd64@FreeBSD.org Delivered-To: freebsd-amd64@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 12DCA16A41F for ; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 02:13:00 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from obrien@NUXI.com) Received: from dragon.NUXI.org (trang.nuxi.com [66.93.134.19]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CD68F43D49 for ; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 02:12:59 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from obrien@NUXI.com) Received: from dragon.NUXI.org (obrien@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by dragon.NUXI.org (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id j5D2CwNC020865; Sun, 12 Jun 2005 19:12:59 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from obrien@dragon.NUXI.org) Received: (from obrien@localhost) by dragon.NUXI.org (8.13.4/8.13.1/Submit) id j5D2CwRD020754; Sun, 12 Jun 2005 19:12:58 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from obrien) Date: Sun, 12 Jun 2005 19:12:58 -0700 From: "David O'Brien" To: Steve Kargl Message-ID: <20050613021258.GA5242@dragon.NUXI.org> References: <200506122320.j5CNKQAF023114@freefall.freebsd.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <200506122320.j5CNKQAF023114@freefall.freebsd.org> X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 6.0-CURRENT Organization: The NUXI BSD Group X-Pgp-Rsa-Fingerprint: B7 4D 3E E9 11 39 5F A3 90 76 5D 69 58 D9 98 7A X-Pgp-Rsa-Keyid: 1024/34F9F9D5 User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.9i Cc: freebsd-amd64@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: amd64/82178: missing 32bit subsystem X-BeenThere: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: obrien@FreeBSD.org List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the AMD64 platform List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 13 Jun 2005 02:13:00 -0000 On Sun, Jun 12, 2005 at 11:20:26PM +0000, Steve Kargl wrote: > From: Steve Kargl Actually this isn't correct for 5.4. There is a known issue that there are some missing bits in the 5.4 src/release/Makefile such that the 'base' tarball doesn't contain the 32-bit ld.so and 32-bit shared libs. Al one needs to do is 'make world' on a 5.4 system to get the needed bits. The GENERIC kernel already contains all the needed options, and src/Makefile.inc1 builds 32-bit bits by default. One would use NO_LIB32=yes to turn it off. -- -- David (obrien@FreeBSD.org) From owner-freebsd-amd64@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 13 04:56:09 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BB41C16A41F for ; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 04:56:09 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from dystopianrebel@yahoo.com) Received: from web52301.mail.yahoo.com (web52301.mail.yahoo.com [206.190.39.96]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 20C6243D53 for ; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 04:56:08 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from dystopianrebel@yahoo.com) Received: (qmail 97464 invoked by uid 60001); 13 Jun 2005 04:56:07 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=4U6Gym+4MYmPHMmWW1/JtdVdYRallkwdBUWRKZkhTIKtdcg/XmAo59t0FzugFKjKBLz2+8YEDWWaA8FqNNrKbRTDfdUNLX8pEBLekz06CLAs6yMKr9kiF5/phiqEowiSeXzAhaIZnNhghRh66LnahhutbFzrdu7gZLXRxr1g6b0= ; Message-ID: <20050613045607.97462.qmail@web52301.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [64.26.160.170] by web52301.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sun, 12 Jun 2005 21:56:07 PDT Date: Sun, 12 Jun 2005 21:56:07 -0700 (PDT) From: dR To: freebsd-java@freebsd.org, freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Cc: Subject: jdk15 amd64 error: "recompile with -fPIC" ? X-BeenThere: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the AMD64 platform List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 13 Jun 2005 04:56:09 -0000 If my life depended on getting amd64-native Java... I would not be writing to you now. ;o) My computer: amd64 + FreeBSD 5.4 Release + working Linux Java Compiling the jdk15 port, I get by the "permissions for javac" error using the script hack mentioned in the list archive. With that done, I issue "make build". Then I see this: /usr/bin/ld: /usr/X11R6/lib/libXm.a(CascadeB.o): relocation R_X86_64_32 can not be used when making a shared object; recompile with -fPIC /usr/X11R6/lib/libXm.a: could not read symbols: Bad value gmake[4]: *** [/disk2/usr2/freebsd_ports/ports/java/jdk15/work/control/build/bsd-amd64/lib/amd64/motif21/libmawt.so] Error 1 I would truly appreciate some help with this. __________________________________ Discover Yahoo! Use Yahoo! to plan a weekend, have fun online and more. Check it out! http://discover.yahoo.com/ From owner-freebsd-amd64@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 13 05:30:58 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 035F916A41C for ; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 05:30:58 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from sty@iki.fi) Received: from sammael.blosphere.net (sammael.Blosphere.net [193.66.203.225]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A24EA43D48 for ; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 05:30:57 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from sty@iki.fi) Received: from [172.16.112.32] (bsifw11.brain.riken.jp [134.160.173.1]) by sammael.blosphere.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B26A424; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 08:30:54 +0300 (EEST) In-Reply-To: <20050613045607.97462.qmail@web52301.mail.yahoo.com> References: <20050613045607.97462.qmail@web52301.mail.yahoo.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v730) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Tommi_L=E4tti?= Date: Mon, 13 Jun 2005 14:30:51 +0900 To: dR X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.730) Cc: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org Subject: Re: jdk15 amd64 error: "recompile with -fPIC" ? X-BeenThere: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the AMD64 platform List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 13 Jun 2005 05:30:58 -0000 On 13 Jun 2005, at 13:56, dR wrote: > I would truly appreciate some help with this. Well, just about 2 weeks ago it compiled just nicely, had to copy & paste the one very long line and then do maike build. I'm using 5.4- RELEASE-p1 (i did recompile the world & kernel). You could cvsup your ports to that point. Anyways, if that doesn't help I also made packages since building java is quite time-consuming process. If you want to use them they're available at http://www.blosphere.net/~sty/jdk-1.5.0p1_2.tbz and http://www.blosphere.net/~sty/javavmwrapper-2.0_4.tbz (dependancy) $ java -version java version "1.5.0-p1" Java(TM) 2 Runtime Environment, Standard Edition (build 1.5.0-p1- sty_23_may_2005_17_19) Java HotSpot(TM) 64-Bit Server VM (build 1.5.0-p1- sty_23_may_2005_17_19, mixed mode) $ file /usr/local/jdk1.5.0/bin/java /usr/local/jdk1.5.0/bin/java: ELF 64-bit LSB executable, AMD x86-64, version 1 (FreeBSD), for FreeBSD 5.4, dynamically linked (uses shared libs), stripped You might break some license agreements if you don't compile it yourself. -- br, Tommi From owner-freebsd-amd64@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 13 07:13:13 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5D4B316A41C; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 07:13:13 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ru@ip.net.ua) Received: from tigra.ip.net.ua (tigra.ip.net.ua [82.193.96.10]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DAB6243D1D; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 07:13:12 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ru@ip.net.ua) Received: from localhost (rocky.ip.net.ua [82.193.96.2]) by tigra.ip.net.ua (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5D7DAdV087325; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 10:13:10 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from ru@ip.net.ua) Received: from tigra.ip.net.ua ([82.193.96.10]) by localhost (rocky.ipnet [82.193.96.2]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 44124-18; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 10:13:09 +0300 (EEST) Received: from heffalump.ip.net.ua (heffalump.ip.net.ua [82.193.96.213]) by tigra.ip.net.ua (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5D7D8wE087319 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Mon, 13 Jun 2005 10:13:09 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from ru@ip.net.ua) Received: (from ru@localhost) by heffalump.ip.net.ua (8.13.3/8.13.3) id j5D7DcBx026089; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 10:13:38 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from ru) Date: Mon, 13 Jun 2005 10:13:38 +0300 From: Ruslan Ermilov To: "David O'Brien" Message-ID: <20050613071337.GA25893@ip.net.ua> References: <200506122320.j5CNKQAF023114@freefall.freebsd.org> <20050613021258.GA5242@dragon.NUXI.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="NzB8fVQJ5HfG6fxh" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20050613021258.GA5242@dragon.NUXI.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.9i X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at ip.net.ua Cc: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org Subject: Re: amd64/82178: missing 32bit subsystem X-BeenThere: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the AMD64 platform List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 13 Jun 2005 07:13:13 -0000 --NzB8fVQJ5HfG6fxh Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sun, Jun 12, 2005 at 07:12:58PM -0700, David O'Brien wrote: > On Sun, Jun 12, 2005 at 11:20:26PM +0000, Steve Kargl wrote: > > From: Steve Kargl >=20 > Actually this isn't correct for 5.4. > There is a known issue that there are some missing bits in the 5.4 > src/release/Makefile such that the 'base' tarball doesn't contain the > 32-bit ld.so and 32-bit shared libs. >=20 This should be fixed in Makefile.inc1, not in release/Makefile. Try this patch with "make release": %%% Index: Makefile =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D RCS file: /home/ncvs/src/Makefile,v retrieving revision 1.318 diff -u -r1.318 Makefile --- Makefile 2 Mar 2005 12:33:22 -0000 1.318 +++ Makefile 13 Jun 2005 07:08:27 -0000 @@ -71,7 +71,7 @@ obj objlink regress rerelease tags toolchain update \ _worldtmp _legacy _bootstrap-tools _cleanobj _obj \ _build-tools _cross-tools _includes _libraries _depend \ - build32 install32 + build32 distribute32 install32 =20 BITGTS=3D files includes BITGTS:=3D${BITGTS} ${BITGTS:S/^/build/} ${BITGTS:S/^/install/} Index: Makefile.inc1 =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D RCS file: /home/ncvs/src/Makefile.inc1,v retrieving revision 1.497 diff -u -r1.497 Makefile.inc1 --- Makefile.inc1 6 Jun 2005 09:39:46 -0000 1.497 +++ Makefile.inc1 13 Jun 2005 07:09:10 -0000 @@ -435,14 +435,18 @@ PROG=3Dld-elf32.so.1 ${LIB32MAKE} DESTDIR=3D${LIB32TMP} ${_t} .endfor =20 -install32: - mkdir -p ${DESTDIR}/usr/lib32 # XXX add to mtree - cd ${.CURDIR}/lib; ${LIB32MAKE} install - cd ${.CURDIR}/gnu/lib; ${LIB32MAKE} install +distribute32 install32: +.if make(distribute32) + mkdir -p ${DISTDIR}/base/usr/lib32 # XXX add to mtree +.else + mkdir -p ${DESTDIR}/usr/lib32 # XXX add to mtree +.endif + cd ${.CURDIR}/lib; ${LIB32MAKE} ${.TARGET:S/32$//} + cd ${.CURDIR}/gnu/lib; ${LIB32MAKE} ${.TARGET:S/32$//} .if !defined(NO_CRYPT) - cd ${.CURDIR}/secure/lib; ${LIB32MAKE} install + cd ${.CURDIR}/secure/lib; ${LIB32MAKE} ${.TARGET:S/32$//} .endif - cd ${.CURDIR}/libexec/rtld-elf; PROG=3Dld-elf32.so.1 ${LIB32MAKE} install + cd ${.CURDIR}/libexec/rtld-elf; PROG=3Dld-elf32.so.1 ${LIB32MAKE} ${.TARG= ET:S/32$//} .endif =20 =20 @@ -550,6 +554,9 @@ @echo ">>> Distributing everything" @echo "--------------------------------------------------------------" ${_+_}cd ${.CURDIR}; ${MAKE} -f Makefile.inc1 distribute +.if ${TARGET_ARCH} =3D=3D "amd64" && !defined(NO_LIB32) + ${_+_}cd ${.CURDIR}; ${MAKE} -f Makefile.inc1 distribute32 +.endif =20 distribution: cd ${.CURDIR}/etc; ${CROSSENV} PATH=3D${TMPPATH} ${MAKE} distribution %%% Cheers, --=20 Ruslan Ermilov ru@FreeBSD.org FreeBSD committer --NzB8fVQJ5HfG6fxh Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.1 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFCrTIhqRfpzJluFF4RArtUAJ9KPB++jWVQrArocJ7T4ncPdxQNLQCcCxh5 TWecUianAq1VO8RlwOEfVt4= =Lyw+ -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --NzB8fVQJ5HfG6fxh-- From owner-freebsd-amd64@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 13 08:50:35 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7F72316A41C; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 08:50:35 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from sean@mcneil.com) Received: from mail.mcneil.com (mcneil.com [24.199.45.54]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4CCE643D1D; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 08:50:35 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from sean@mcneil.com) Received: from localhost (localhost.mcneil.com [127.0.0.1]) by mail.mcneil.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id EA398F1C4C; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 01:50:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail.mcneil.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (server.mcneil.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 03842-03; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 01:50:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mcneil.com (mcneil.com [24.199.45.54]) by mail.mcneil.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 726FBF184C; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 01:50:33 -0700 (PDT) From: Sean McNeil To: dR In-Reply-To: <20050613045607.97462.qmail@web52301.mail.yahoo.com> References: <20050613045607.97462.qmail@web52301.mail.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain Organization: Sean McNeil Consulting, Inc Date: Mon, 13 Jun 2005 01:50:33 -0700 Message-Id: <1118652633.4362.0.camel@server.mcneil.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.2.3 FreeBSD GNOME Team Port Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at mcneil.com Cc: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org, freebsd-java@freebsd.org Subject: Re: jdk15 amd64 error: "recompile with -fPIC" ? X-BeenThere: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: sean@mcneil.com List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the AMD64 platform List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 13 Jun 2005 08:50:35 -0000 On Sun, 2005-06-12 at 21:56 -0700, dR wrote: > If my life depended on getting amd64-native Java... I > would not be writing to you now. ;o) > > My computer: > amd64 + FreeBSD 5.4 Release + working Linux Java > > Compiling the jdk15 port, I get by the "permissions > for javac" error using the script hack mentioned in > the list archive. With that done, I issue "make > build". Then I see this: > > /usr/bin/ld: /usr/X11R6/lib/libXm.a(CascadeB.o): > relocation R_X86_64_32 can not be used when making a > shared object; recompile with -fPIC > /usr/X11R6/lib/libXm.a: could not read symbols: Bad > value > gmake[4]: *** > [/disk2/usr2/freebsd_ports/ports/java/jdk15/work/control/build/bsd-amd64/lib/amd64/motif21/libmawt.so] > Error 1 > > I would truly appreciate some help with this. You are missing some shared libraries most likely. Check server# ls /usr/X11R6/lib/libXm* /usr/X11R6/lib/libXm.a /usr/X11R6/lib/libXmu.so.6 /usr/X11R6/lib/libXm.so /usr/X11R6/lib/libXmuu.a /usr/X11R6/lib/libXm.so.3 /usr/X11R6/lib/libXmuu.so /usr/X11R6/lib/libXmu.a /usr/X11R6/lib/libXmuu.so.1 /usr/X11R6/lib/libXmu.so From owner-freebsd-amd64@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 13 11:02:05 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E8C1916A41C for ; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 11:02:04 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from owner-bugmaster@freebsd.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9C7F743D53 for ; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 11:02:04 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from owner-bugmaster@freebsd.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (peter@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.13.3/8.13.3) with ESMTP id j5DB24X7046095 for ; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 11:02:04 GMT (envelope-from owner-bugmaster@freebsd.org) Received: (from peter@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.13.3/8.13.1/Submit) id j5DB239m046089 for freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 11:02:03 GMT (envelope-from owner-bugmaster@freebsd.org) Date: Mon, 13 Jun 2005 11:02:03 GMT Message-Id: <200506131102.j5DB239m046089@freefall.freebsd.org> X-Authentication-Warning: freefall.freebsd.org: peter set sender to owner-bugmaster@freebsd.org using -f From: FreeBSD bugmaster To: freebsd-amd64@FreeBSD.org Cc: Subject: Current problem reports assigned to you X-BeenThere: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the AMD64 platform List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 13 Jun 2005 11:02:05 -0000 Current FreeBSD problem reports Critical problems S Submitted Tracker Resp. Description ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- o [2004/10/27] amd64/73211 amd64 FAST_IPSEC broken on amd64 o [2005/05/28] amd64/81602 amd64 SATA crashes with parallel pcm access 2 problems total. Serious problems S Submitted Tracker Resp. Description ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- o [2003/11/26] amd64/59714 amd64 device timeout and ad0: WARNING - WRITE_D o [2004/07/28] amd64/69704 amd64 ext2/ext3 unstable in amd64 o [2004/07/28] amd64/69707 amd64 IPC32 dont work OK in amd64 FreeBSD o [2004/09/07] amd64/71471 amd64 Can not install 5.3beta3/amd64 on IBM eSe o [2004/10/28] amd64/73252 amd64 ad6: WARNING - READ_DMA interrupt was see o [2004/10/30] amd64/73322 amd64 unarchiving /etc to msdos fs locks up amd o [2004/11/01] amd64/73369 amd64 on-board firewire unreliable with Asus K8 o [2004/11/07] amd64/73650 amd64 5.3-release panics on boot o [2004/11/10] amd64/73775 amd64 Kernel panic (trap 12) when booting with o [2004/11/16] amd64/74014 amd64 5.3-RELEASE-AMD64 freezes on boot during o [2004/12/05] amd64/74747 amd64 System panic on shutdown when process wil o [2004/12/18] amd64/75209 amd64 5.3-Release panics on attempted boot from o [2004/12/23] amd64/75417 amd64 ACPI: SATA Hard-disk o [2005/01/12] amd64/76136 amd64 system halts before reboot o [2005/01/17] amd64/76336 amd64 racoon/setkey -D cases instant "Fatal Tra o [2005/02/02] amd64/77011 amd64 consisten 5.3-p5 make crash on installwor o [2005/02/04] amd64/77101 amd64 Please include ULi M1689 LAN, SATA, and A o [2005/02/17] amd64/77629 amd64 aMule hardlocks AMD64 system o [2005/02/23] amd64/77949 amd64 Pb boot FreeBSD 64 o [2005/03/04] amd64/78406 amd64 [panic]AMD64 w/ SCSI: issue 'rm -r /usr/p o [2005/03/07] amd64/78558 amd64 installation o [2005/03/14] amd64/78848 amd64 sis driver on FreeBSD 5.x does not work o o [2005/04/12] amd64/79813 amd64 Will not install/run on amd64 nForce 4 pl o [2005/04/19] amd64/80114 amd64 kldload snd_ich causes interrupt storm wh o [2005/05/06] amd64/80691 amd64 amd64 kernel hangs on load a [2005/05/10] amd64/80839 amd64 RELEASE 5.4 / libc: make buildworld fails o [2005/05/14] amd64/81037 amd64 SATA problem o [2005/05/19] amd64/81272 amd64 JDK 1.5 port doesn't build. p [2005/05/19] amd64/81279 amd64 /usr/games/random returns every line o [2005/05/20] amd64/81325 amd64 KLD if_ath.ko: depends on ath_hal - not a o [2005/06/09] amd64/82071 amd64 incorrect -march's parameter to build 32b f [2005/06/12] amd64/82176 amd64 ehci causes crash on amd64 32 problems total. Non-critical problems S Submitted Tracker Resp. Description ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- o [2004/01/11] amd64/61209 amd64 ppc0: cannot reserve I/O port range o [2004/02/21] amd64/63188 amd64 ti(4) broken on amd64 o [2004/07/28] amd64/69705 amd64 IPC problem (msq_queues) o [2004/07/28] amd64/69709 amd64 ACPI enabled then floppy don't work (5.2. o [2004/08/15] amd64/70500 amd64 bge driver for 3Com 3C996B on amd64 preve o [2004/12/02] amd64/74608 amd64 mpt hangs 5 minutes when booting o [2004/12/07] amd64/74811 amd64 df, nfs mount, negative Avail -> 32/64-bi o [2004/12/13] ports/75015 amd64 cvsup on amd64 with runsocks (socks5) cor o [2005/03/17] amd64/78954 amd64 kerberos 5 failed to build o [2005/05/11] amd64/80885 amd64 OpenGL hardware accel dont work on FreeBS o [2005/05/16] amd64/81089 amd64 FreeBSD 5.4 released version can not use o [2005/06/03] amd64/81823 amd64 ports/astro/boinc-setiathome never compil o [2005/06/12] amd64/82178 amd64 missing 32bit subsystem 13 problems total. From owner-freebsd-amd64@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 13 11:33:20 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 15E4716A41C for ; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 11:33:20 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from lists@natserv.com) Received: from mail1.acecape.com (mail1.acecape.com [66.114.74.12]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AB8D643D1D for ; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 11:33:19 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from lists@natserv.com) Received: from zoraida.natserv.net (p65-147.acedsl.com [66.114.65.147]) by mail1.acecape.com (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5DBXIuH025340; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 07:33:18 -0400 Date: Mon, 13 Jun 2005 07:33:18 -0400 (EDT) From: Francisco Reyes X-X-Sender: fran@zoraida.natserv.net To: =?WINDOWS-1252?B?lSCV?= In-Reply-To: <8f55402905060719386f941039@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <20050613073125.Y59922@zoraida.natserv.net> References: <20050604234246.G69694@zoraida.natserv.net> <200506050949.54551.groot@kde.org> <20050607113123.R97707@zoraida.natserv.net> <200506071749.28840.groot@kde.org> <8f55402905060719386f941039@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Which motherboard for RAID in AMD64? X-BeenThere: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the AMD64 platform List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 13 Jun 2005 11:33:20 -0000 On Wed, 8 Jun 2005, [WINDOWS-1252] ~U ~U wrote: > Just to confirm, the Promise controller on the Asus A8V Deluxe works > also - I disabled the other onboard VIA SATA RAID and just use the > Promise for mirrored drives Looking at the motherboard page there is no mention of RAID for that motherboard. May be a good idea to get it added. From owner-freebsd-amd64@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 13 12:26:00 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ECB9716A41C for ; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 12:26:00 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from dystopianrebel@yahoo.com) Received: from web52301.mail.yahoo.com (web52301.mail.yahoo.com [206.190.39.96]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 569D743D49 for ; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 12:26:00 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from dystopianrebel@yahoo.com) Received: (qmail 13156 invoked by uid 60001); 13 Jun 2005 12:25:54 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=K2qQS3ZsPDg4ur+VfigpwOHwTjp6CYk8qWHCnWGQrBEasil3nSAFoePUDvihptVDKOAkx7McCkGFuf6ILB+NG0IFDpeplDZzIGxcigVihOi/mR+oAUEE45pHLl8e0biHV0pC1Kh5DMWVdAPmGNjKy+lccmBl3KAsi20isg2YvDg= ; Message-ID: <20050613122554.13154.qmail@web52301.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [64.26.160.170] by web52301.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 05:25:54 PDT Date: Mon, 13 Jun 2005 05:25:54 -0700 (PDT) From: dR To: freebsd-java@freebsd.org, freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <1118652633.4362.0.camel@server.mcneil.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Cc: Subject: Re: jdk15 amd64 error: "recompile with -fPIC" ? X-BeenThere: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the AMD64 platform List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 13 Jun 2005 12:26:01 -0000 I have exactly what you list: %ls /usr/X11R6/lib/libXm* /usr/X11R6/lib/libXm.a /usr/X11R6/lib/libXmu.a /usr/X11R6/lib/libXmuu.a /usr/X11R6/lib/libXm.so /usr/X11R6/lib/libXmu.so /usr/X11R6/lib/libXmuu.so /usr/X11R6/lib/libXm.so.3 /usr/X11R6/lib/libXmu.so.6 /usr/X11R6/lib/libXmuu.so.1 Marko > > I would truly appreciate some help with this. > > You are missing some shared libraries most likely. > Check > > server# ls /usr/X11R6/lib/libXm* > /usr/X11R6/lib/libXm.a > /usr/X11R6/lib/libXmu.so.6 > /usr/X11R6/lib/libXm.so > /usr/X11R6/lib/libXmuu.a > /usr/X11R6/lib/libXm.so.3 > /usr/X11R6/lib/libXmuu.so > /usr/X11R6/lib/libXmu.a > /usr/X11R6/lib/libXmuu.so.1 > /usr/X11R6/lib/libXmu.so __________________________________ Discover Yahoo! 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Check it out! http://discover.yahoo.com/ From owner-freebsd-amd64@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 13 13:27:13 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C2EFF16A41C for ; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 13:27:13 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from etoll@vipstructures.com) Received: from rodan.vipstructures.com (rodan.vipstructures.com [66.195.71.71]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7CE8C43D4C for ; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 13:27:13 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from etoll@vipstructures.com) Received: from localhost (localhost.vipstructures.com [127.0.0.1]) by rodan.vipstructures.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B78C61EE83D for ; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 09:27:12 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mothra.vipstructures.com (mothra.vipstructures.com [192.168.1.3]) by rodan.vipstructures.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 809701EE828 for ; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 09:27:12 -0400 (EDT) content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.0.6487.1 Date: Mon, 13 Jun 2005 09:27:43 -0400 Message-ID: <9BC86C67C3AF7646B9C5382020457A9456EA37@VIP10-WIN2K> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: What kind of MotherBoard is better for FreeBsd and linux? Thread-Index: AcVulbh+LxZpJ0dZTr+oXeSdiZQovwBhbgkQ From: "Toll, Eric" To: "Francisco" , "Adriaan de Groot" Cc: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org Subject: RE: What kind of MotherBoard is better for FreeBsd and linux? X-BeenThere: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the AMD64 platform List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 13 Jun 2005 13:27:13 -0000 > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org=20 > [mailto:owner-freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org] On Behalf Of Francisco > Sent: Saturday, June 11, 2005 10:56 AM > To: Adriaan de Groot > Cc: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org > Subject: Re: What kind of MotherBoard is better for FreeBsd and linux? >=20 > On Fri, 10 Jun 2005, Adriaan de Groot wrote: >=20 > > I think the motherboards list could use a redesign so that=20 > it carries=20 > > _more_ information. >=20 >=20 > I think the design is fine, BUT it should be more specific.=20 > People should report what they know to work. We should=20 > probably get rid of the "functional" and "fully=20 > functional"... OR define what "fully functional"=20 > means. >=20 I *did* put quite a lot of info into the notes, but they (the person updating the HTML) truncated it to: "SATA untested" for the Gigabyte board I submitted (GA-7A8DW) -- I had a small paragraph of notes to include which again were *truncated*. The reason SATA was untested was that I found there were issues getting RAID to raid to work on the Sil chips, just from reading this list. People on list said 3Ware was a good way to go and GA-7A8DW is on the 3Ware certified motherboard listing. For $148.00 US the (2) channel 64bit 3Ware card is a no-brainer. But still some choose to ignore research and go after boards with questionable chipsets, then try to make something like RAID work on unsupported hardware that may be cheap, poorly designed and flawed to begin with. Stop buying the Kia and expecting the Mercedes, a little bit of research will go a long way. I am by no means a FreeBSD expert (just ask Roland Smith! ) , but I have setup servers long enough to know you get what you pay for. =20 I really was thrify with my server anyway. I spent $1,800.00 USD total for a EATX 550 Watt Antec quiet case, (2) 250Gb RAID edition drives, (2) 64 bit 242 Opteron processors, 1 Gb of ECC Reg DDR 400 Ram (certified to work with GA-7A8DW), the GA-7A8DW mainboard and the 3Ware raid controller. The dual operton servers I see online start at $3K USD and don't even come with RAID.... Stop buying the Kia and expecting the Mercedes! I am quite sure someone can come up with much better recipies for an AMD64 box than I have. Research is a wonderful thing. Eric =20 From owner-freebsd-amd64@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 13 13:40:42 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-amd64@FreeBSD.org Delivered-To: freebsd-amd64@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 950BD16A41C for ; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 13:40:42 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from pav@FreeBSD.org) Received: from e0-a11.b1.lan.prg.vol.cz (e0-a11.b1.lan.prg.vol.cz [195.122.204.152]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C2C7D43D1D for ; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 13:40:41 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from pav@FreeBSD.org) Received: from pav.hide.vol.cz (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by e0-a11.b1.lan.prg.vol.cz (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id j5DDedxa079419; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 15:40:39 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from pav@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from pav@localhost) by pav.hide.vol.cz (8.13.1/8.13.1/Submit) id j5DDeSV8079418; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 15:40:28 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from pav@FreeBSD.org) X-Authentication-Warning: pav.hide.vol.cz: pav set sender to pav@FreeBSD.org using -f From: Pav Lucistnik To: "Toll, Eric" In-Reply-To: <9BC86C67C3AF7646B9C5382020457A9456EA37@VIP10-WIN2K> References: <9BC86C67C3AF7646B9C5382020457A9456EA37@VIP10-WIN2K> Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="=-h2HD9KT2HUkknlL5oaRe" Date: Mon, 13 Jun 2005 15:40:27 +0200 Message-Id: <1118670027.59181.32.camel@pav.hide.vol.cz> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.2.3 FreeBSD GNOME Team Port Cc: Francisco , freebsd-amd64@FreeBSD.org Subject: RE: What kind of MotherBoard is better for FreeBsd and linux? X-BeenThere: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: pav@FreeBSD.org List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the AMD64 platform List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 13 Jun 2005 13:40:42 -0000 --=-h2HD9KT2HUkknlL5oaRe Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO8859-2 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Toll, Eric p=ED=B9e v po 13. 06. 2005 v 09:27 -0400: > I *did* put quite a lot of info into the notes, but they > (the person updating the HTML) truncated it to: "SATA > untested" for the Gigabyte board I submitted (GA-7A8DW) -- I > had a small paragraph of notes to include which again were > *truncated*. That person was me. Honestly, the rest of your submission was about parts you plugged into the board, which obviously does not belong into the _motherboard_ entry. If people feel like we should have RAID cards on FreeBSD/amd64 list, we should start one :) --=20 Pav Lucistnik 25 And the Lord spoke unto the Angel that guarded the eastern gate, saying, Where is the flaming sword which was given unto thee? 26 And the Angel said, I had here only a moment ago, I must have put it dow= n some where, forget my own head next. 27 And the Lord did not ask him again. --=-h2HD9KT2HUkknlL5oaRe Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Description: This is a digitally signed message part -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.1 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQBCrYzLntdYP8FOsoIRAlvPAJ0bvpvH6SnMo7q86WXcvXg9iEyUDQCgoBvM s2tQKOWgTLNwbHeqNzjGCPI= =lIKm -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --=-h2HD9KT2HUkknlL5oaRe-- From owner-freebsd-amd64@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 13 14:01:50 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-amd64@FreeBSD.org Delivered-To: freebsd-amd64@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 11AF016A41C; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 14:01:50 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from etoll@vipstructures.com) Received: from rodan.vipstructures.com (rodan.vipstructures.com [66.195.71.71]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C853B43D1F; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 14:01:49 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from etoll@vipstructures.com) Received: from localhost (localhost.vipstructures.com [127.0.0.1]) by rodan.vipstructures.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2F5AA1EE835; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 10:01:49 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mothra.vipstructures.com (mothra.vipstructures.com [192.168.1.3]) by rodan.vipstructures.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E30151EE828; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 10:01:48 -0400 (EDT) content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-2" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.0.6487.1 Date: Mon, 13 Jun 2005 10:02:20 -0400 Message-ID: <9BC86C67C3AF7646B9C5382020457A9456EA38@VIP10-WIN2K> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: What kind of MotherBoard is better for FreeBsd and linux? Thread-Index: AcVwHbd83qCJBi56RbyKSrd3Z/hYpwAAk9Fg From: "Toll, Eric" To: Cc: Francisco , freebsd-amd64@FreeBSD.org Subject: RE: What kind of MotherBoard is better for FreeBsd and linux? X-BeenThere: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the AMD64 platform List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 13 Jun 2005 14:01:50 -0000 > Subject: RE: What kind of MotherBoard is better for FreeBsd and linux? >=20 > Toll, Eric p=ED=B9e v po 13. 06. 2005 v 09:27 -0400: >=20 > > I *did* put quite a lot of info into the notes, but they > (the person=20 > > updating the HTML) truncated it to: "SATA untested" for the=20 > Gigabyte=20 > > board I submitted (GA-7A8DW) -- I had a small paragraph of notes to=20 > > include which again were *truncated*. >=20 > That person was me. Honestly, the rest of your submission was=20 > about parts you plugged into the board, which obviously does=20 > not belong into the _motherboard_ entry. >=20 > If people feel like we should have RAID cards on=20 > FreeBSD/amd64 list, we should start one :) Hmm, if the reason that a particular component on the MB was untested was due to a known existing glitch *and* a workround/improvement is provided then I feel it should be listed. Thanks for helping out with the AMD64 project. I appreciate your efforts. Kind Regards, Eric From owner-freebsd-amd64@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 13 16:06:56 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-amd64@FreeBSD.org Delivered-To: freebsd-amd64@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D3CA716A41C; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 16:06:56 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from francisco@natserv.net) Received: from mail1.acecape.com (mail1.acecape.com [66.114.74.12]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 71E7343D1F; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 16:06:53 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from francisco@natserv.net) Received: from zoraida.natserv.net (p65-147.acedsl.com [66.114.65.147]) by mail1.acecape.com (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5DG6okE024593; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 12:06:50 -0400 Date: Mon, 13 Jun 2005 12:06:50 -0400 (EDT) From: Francisco Reyes X-X-Sender: fran@zoraida.natserv.net To: Pav Lucistnik In-Reply-To: <1118670027.59181.32.camel@pav.hide.vol.cz> Message-ID: <20050613120414.V65109@zoraida.natserv.net> References: <9BC86C67C3AF7646B9C5382020457A9456EA37@VIP10-WIN2K> <1118670027.59181.32.camel@pav.hide.vol.cz> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: "Toll, Eric" , freebsd-amd64@FreeBSD.org Subject: RE: What kind of MotherBoard is better for FreeBsd and linux? X-BeenThere: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: francisco@natserv.net List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the AMD64 platform List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 13 Jun 2005 16:06:56 -0000 On Mon, 13 Jun 2005, Pav Lucistnik wrote: > If people feel like we should have RAID cards on FreeBSD/amd64 list, we > should start one :) I think that belongs in the hardware notes.. but it would be nice if people indicated if they tested the RAID component of motherboards. Just my opinion... From owner-freebsd-amd64@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 13 16:16:16 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-amd64@FreeBSD.ORG Delivered-To: freebsd-amd64@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 95A7316A41C for ; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 16:16:16 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from olli@lurza.secnetix.de) Received: from lurza.secnetix.de (lurza.secnetix.de [83.120.8.8]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 033E743D1F for ; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 16:16:15 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from olli@lurza.secnetix.de) Received: from lurza.secnetix.de (jajcho@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by lurza.secnetix.de (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id j5DGGDXw067535 for ; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 18:16:13 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from oliver.fromme@secnetix.de) Received: (from olli@localhost) by lurza.secnetix.de (8.13.1/8.13.1/Submit) id j5DGGDfr067534; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 18:16:13 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from olli) Date: Mon, 13 Jun 2005 18:16:13 +0200 (CEST) Message-Id: <200506131616.j5DGGDfr067534@lurza.secnetix.de> From: Oliver Fromme To: freebsd-amd64@FreeBSD.ORG X-Newsgroups: list.freebsd-amd64 User-Agent: tin/1.5.4-20000523 ("1959") (UNIX) (FreeBSD/4.11-RELEASE (i386)) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Cc: Subject: Athlon64 board with ECC support? X-BeenThere: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the AMD64 platform List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 13 Jun 2005 16:16:16 -0000 Hi, I'm currently evaluating possibilities to upgrade to a 64bit system (preferably AMD). I would like to get a single-processor Athlon64 system, no Opteron, because of heat, noise and power consumption (and price). Furthermore, I would like to have ECC RAM. However, it seems that this requirement is not easy to meet. So far, Google told me that the Athlon64 and the socket939 basically support ECC. However, it also requires support in the chipset and in the BIOS. I've looked at a few random socket939 board specs, and all of them allow the use of ECC memory, _but_ they don't support using it for actual error correction, i.e. they treat 72bit DIMMs like 64bit DIMMs and ignore the ECC part. This is not what I want, of course. Now my question is: Are there any Athlon64 (s939) boards that really support ECC RAM? Any recommendations? (Yes, I've looked at the FreeBSD AMD64 mainboard webpage, but it doesn't contain useful information regarding this.) Thanks in advance for any help and advice. Best regards Oliver PS: I'm reading the list, so there's no need to Cc me. -- Oliver Fromme, secnetix GmbH & Co KG, Oettingenstr. 2, 80538 München Any opinions expressed in this message may be personal to the author and may not necessarily reflect the opinions of secnetix in any way. (On the statement print "42 monkeys" + "1 snake":) By the way, both perl and Python get this wrong. Perl gives 43 and Python gives "42 monkeys1 snake", when the answer is clearly "41 monkeys and 1 fat snake". -- Jim Fulton From owner-freebsd-amd64@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 13 18:22:29 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 07DB716A41C for ; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 18:22:29 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from peter@wemm.org) Received: from daintree.corp.yahoo.com (daintree.corp.yahoo.com [216.145.52.172]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D6A8343D48 for ; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 18:22:28 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from peter@wemm.org) Received: by daintree.corp.yahoo.com (Postfix, from userid 2154) id C3ACB197A9; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 11:22:28 -0700 (PDT) From: Peter Wemm To: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org Date: Mon, 13 Jun 2005 11:22:28 -0700 User-Agent: KMail/1.7.2 References: <200506122320.j5CNKQAF023114@freefall.freebsd.org> <20050613021258.GA5242@dragon.NUXI.org> <20050613071337.GA25893@ip.net.ua> In-Reply-To: <20050613071337.GA25893@ip.net.ua> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200506131122.28463.peter@wemm.org> Subject: Re: amd64/82178: missing 32bit subsystem X-BeenThere: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the AMD64 platform List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 13 Jun 2005 18:22:29 -0000 On Monday 13 June 2005 12:13 am, Ruslan Ermilov wrote: > On Sun, Jun 12, 2005 at 07:12:58PM -0700, David O'Brien wrote: > > On Sun, Jun 12, 2005 at 11:20:26PM +0000, Steve Kargl wrote: > > > From: Steve Kargl > > > > Actually this isn't correct for 5.4. > > There is a known issue that there are some missing bits in the 5.4 > > src/release/Makefile such that the 'base' tarball doesn't contain > > the 32-bit ld.so and 32-bit shared libs. > > This should be fixed in Makefile.inc1, not in release/Makefile. That looks a step in the right direction, but I wonder if we can have this stuff in a seperate sysinstall-selectable distribution instead of the base dist? Or is adding a conditional platform dist going to be hard? -- Peter Wemm - peter@wemm.org; peter@FreeBSD.org; peter@yahoo-inc.com "All of this is for nothing if we don't go to the stars" - JMS/B5 From owner-freebsd-amd64@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 13 18:26:49 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 608EC16A41C for ; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 18:26:49 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from peter@wemm.org) Received: from daintree.corp.yahoo.com (daintree.corp.yahoo.com [216.145.52.172]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3F3DA43D1F for ; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 18:26:49 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from peter@wemm.org) Received: by daintree.corp.yahoo.com (Postfix, from userid 2154) id 30514197B2; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 11:26:49 -0700 (PDT) From: Peter Wemm To: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org Date: Mon, 13 Jun 2005 11:26:48 -0700 User-Agent: KMail/1.7.2 References: <200506131616.j5DGGDfr067534@lurza.secnetix.de> In-Reply-To: <200506131616.j5DGGDfr067534@lurza.secnetix.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200506131126.48885.peter@wemm.org> Subject: Re: Athlon64 board with ECC support? X-BeenThere: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the AMD64 platform List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 13 Jun 2005 18:26:49 -0000 On Monday 13 June 2005 09:16 am, Oliver Fromme wrote: > Hi, > > I'm currently evaluating possibilities to upgrade to a > 64bit system (preferably AMD). I would like to get a > single-processor Athlon64 system, no Opteron, because of > heat, noise and power consumption (and price). > > Furthermore, I would like to have ECC RAM. However, it > seems that this requirement is not easy to meet. > > So far, Google told me that the Athlon64 and the socket939 > basically support ECC. However, it also requires support > in the chipset and in the BIOS. I've looked at a few > random socket939 board specs, and all of them allow the > use of ECC memory, _but_ they don't support using it for > actual error correction, i.e. they treat 72bit DIMMs like > 64bit DIMMs and ignore the ECC part. This is not what I > want, of course. > > Now my question is: Are there any Athlon64 (s939) boards > that really support ECC RAM? Any recommendations? I was under the impression that the memory controller always supported ECC. I know my socket-754 motherboard (asus) does. I've checked the memory controller settings from within freebsd and confirmed that ECC is indeed enabled. There is no chipset support required because the ram is directly connected to the cpu. OK, I guess they could leave out the traces on the motherboard for bits 65 through 72, but that would be pretty silly. And of course the bios has to turn it on, as you say. But thats all there is to it. The real trick is finding unregistered ECC (72 bit wide) memory though. I can look up the pciconf commands again to read the memory controller to confirm whether ecc mode is active if you like.. -- Peter Wemm - peter@wemm.org; peter@FreeBSD.org; peter@yahoo-inc.com "All of this is for nothing if we don't go to the stars" - JMS/B5 From owner-freebsd-amd64@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 13 18:38:42 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DCBF416A41C for ; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 18:38:42 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from josemi@freebsd.jazztel.es) Received: from 62-15-68-167.inversas.jazztel.es (62-15-68-167.inversas.jazztel.es [62.15.68.167]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7EBE043D1D for ; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 18:38:37 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from josemi@freebsd.jazztel.es) Received: from redesjm.local (orion.redesjm.local [192.168.254.16]) by 62-15-68-167.inversas.jazztel.es (8.13.3/8.13.3) with ESMTP id j5DIcQHF053392; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 20:38:26 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from josemi@redesjm.local) Received: from localhost (localhost [[UNIX: localhost]]) by redesjm.local (8.13.3/8.13.3/Submit) id j5DIcQJu001039; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 20:38:26 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from josemi@redesjm.local) From: Jose M Rodriguez To: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org Date: Mon, 13 Jun 2005 20:38:25 +0200 User-Agent: KMail/1.8 References: <200506131616.j5DGGDfr067534@lurza.secnetix.de> In-Reply-To: <200506131616.j5DGGDfr067534@lurza.secnetix.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200506132038.25975.josemi@redesjm.local> X-AntiVirus: checked by AntiVir Milter (version: 1.1.0-3; AVE: 6.30.0.15; VDF: 6.30.0.207; host: antares.redesjm.local) Cc: Oliver Fromme Subject: Re: Athlon64 board with ECC support? X-BeenThere: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the AMD64 platform List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 13 Jun 2005 18:38:43 -0000 El Lunes, 13 de Junio de 2005 18:16, Oliver Fromme escribi=F3: > Hi, > > I'm currently evaluating possibilities to upgrade to a > 64bit system (preferably AMD). I would like to get a > single-processor Athlon64 system, no Opteron, because of > heat, noise and power consumption (and price). > > Furthermore, I would like to have ECC RAM. However, it > seems that this requirement is not easy to meet. > > So far, Google told me that the Athlon64 and the socket939 > basically support ECC. However, it also requires support > in the chipset and in the BIOS. I've looked at a few > random socket939 board specs, and all of them allow the > use of ECC memory, _but_ they don't support using it for > actual error correction, i.e. they treat 72bit DIMMs like > 64bit DIMMs and ignore the ECC part. This is not what I > want, of course. > > Now my question is: Are there any Athlon64 (s939) boards > that really support ECC RAM? Any recommendations? As far I know, only nvidia nforce4 have support for this. But this may=20 get you into problems with lan and disk (SATA). And it's unbuffered ECC ram. So, I think you must choose between an anthlon64 non-ECC unbuffered=20 system or an opteron registered ECC system. I've both running: an asus AV8 Pro system and a tyan tomcat k8s. The=20 tomcat part is not too expensive. =2D- josemi > > (Yes, I've looked at the FreeBSD AMD64 mainboard webpage, > but it doesn't contain useful information regarding this.) > > Thanks in advance for any help and advice. > > Best regards > Oliver > > PS: I'm reading the list, so there's no need to Cc me. From owner-freebsd-amd64@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 13 18:47:50 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C83C316A41C for ; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 18:47:50 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from peter@wemm.org) Received: from daintree.corp.yahoo.com (daintree.corp.yahoo.com [216.145.52.172]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A52E843D1D for ; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 18:47:50 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from peter@wemm.org) Received: by daintree.corp.yahoo.com (Postfix, from userid 2154) id 94EA1197AE; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 11:47:50 -0700 (PDT) From: Peter Wemm To: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org Date: Mon, 13 Jun 2005 11:47:50 -0700 User-Agent: KMail/1.7.2 References: <200506131616.j5DGGDfr067534@lurza.secnetix.de> <200506132038.25975.josemi@redesjm.local> In-Reply-To: <200506132038.25975.josemi@redesjm.local> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200506131147.50300.peter@wemm.org> Cc: Subject: Re: Athlon64 board with ECC support? X-BeenThere: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the AMD64 platform List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 13 Jun 2005 18:47:50 -0000 On Monday 13 June 2005 11:38 am, Jose M Rodriguez wrote: > El Lunes, 13 de Junio de 2005 18:16, Oliver Fromme escribi=F3: > > Hi, > > > > I'm currently evaluating possibilities to upgrade to a > > 64bit system (preferably AMD). I would like to get a > > single-processor Athlon64 system, no Opteron, because of > > heat, noise and power consumption (and price). > > > > Furthermore, I would like to have ECC RAM. However, it > > seems that this requirement is not easy to meet. > > > > So far, Google told me that the Athlon64 and the socket939 > > basically support ECC. However, it also requires support > > in the chipset and in the BIOS. I've looked at a few > > random socket939 board specs, and all of them allow the > > use of ECC memory, _but_ they don't support using it for > > actual error correction, i.e. they treat 72bit DIMMs like > > 64bit DIMMs and ignore the ECC part. This is not what I > > want, of course. > > > > Now my question is: Are there any Athlon64 (s939) boards > > that really support ECC RAM? Any recommendations? > > As far I know, only nvidia nforce4 have support for this. But this > may get you into problems with lan and disk (SATA). The system chipset has nothing to do with ECC support. Unlike on Intel=20 systems, memory is connected to the CPU, not the chipset. The chipset=20 (nforce vs via vs whatever) has no say in the matter. =2D-=20 Peter Wemm - peter@wemm.org; peter@FreeBSD.org; peter@yahoo-inc.com "All of this is for nothing if we don't go to the stars" - JMS/B5 From owner-freebsd-amd64@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 13 19:03:18 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 39FB316A41C for ; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 19:03:18 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from josemi@freebsd.jazztel.es) Received: from 62-15-68-167.inversas.jazztel.es (62-15-68-167.inversas.jazztel.es [62.15.68.167]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1108B43D49 for ; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 19:03:12 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from josemi@freebsd.jazztel.es) Received: from redesjm.local (orion.redesjm.local [192.168.254.16]) by 62-15-68-167.inversas.jazztel.es (8.13.3/8.13.3) with ESMTP id j5DJ2uPW053518; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 21:02:56 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from josemi@redesjm.local) Received: from localhost (localhost [[UNIX: localhost]]) by redesjm.local (8.13.3/8.13.3/Submit) id j5DJ2ux9001229; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 21:02:56 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from josemi@redesjm.local) From: Jose M Rodriguez To: Peter Wemm Date: Mon, 13 Jun 2005 21:02:55 +0200 User-Agent: KMail/1.8 References: <200506131616.j5DGGDfr067534@lurza.secnetix.de> <200506132038.25975.josemi@redesjm.local> <200506131147.50300.peter@wemm.org> In-Reply-To: <200506131147.50300.peter@wemm.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200506132102.56346.josemi@redesjm.local> X-AntiVirus: checked by AntiVir Milter (version: 1.1.0-3; AVE: 6.30.0.15; VDF: 6.30.0.207; host: antares.redesjm.local) Cc: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Athlon64 board with ECC support? X-BeenThere: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the AMD64 platform List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 13 Jun 2005 19:03:18 -0000 El Lunes, 13 de Junio de 2005 20:47, Peter Wemm escribi=F3: > On Monday 13 June 2005 11:38 am, Jose M Rodriguez wrote: > > El Lunes, 13 de Junio de 2005 18:16, Oliver Fromme escribi=F3: > > > Hi, > > > > > > I'm currently evaluating possibilities to upgrade to a > > > 64bit system (preferably AMD). I would like to get a > > > single-processor Athlon64 system, no Opteron, because of > > > heat, noise and power consumption (and price). > > > > > > Furthermore, I would like to have ECC RAM. However, it > > > seems that this requirement is not easy to meet. > > > > > > So far, Google told me that the Athlon64 and the socket939 > > > basically support ECC. However, it also requires support > > > in the chipset and in the BIOS. I've looked at a few > > > random socket939 board specs, and all of them allow the > > > use of ECC memory, _but_ they don't support using it for > > > actual error correction, i.e. they treat 72bit DIMMs like > > > 64bit DIMMs and ignore the ECC part. This is not what I > > > want, of course. > > > > > > Now my question is: Are there any Athlon64 (s939) boards > > > that really support ECC RAM? Any recommendations? > > > > As far I know, only nvidia nforce4 have support for this. But this > > may get you into problems with lan and disk (SATA). > > The system chipset has nothing to do with ECC support. Unlike on > Intel systems, memory is connected to the CPU, not the chipset. The > chipset (nforce vs via vs whatever) has no say in the matter. Well, I only see this in new nvidia nforce4 based boards. I also think=20 this is more a bios problem. =2D- josemi From owner-freebsd-amd64@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 13 19:20:11 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-amd64@FreeBSD.ORG Delivered-To: freebsd-amd64@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F3EBA16A41C for ; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 19:20:10 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from obrien@NUXI.com) Received: from dragon.NUXI.org (trang.nuxi.com [66.93.134.19]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A52C843D5F for ; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 19:20:10 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from obrien@NUXI.com) Received: from dragon.NUXI.org (obrien@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by dragon.NUXI.org (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id j5DJKAbw012015 for ; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 12:20:10 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from obrien@dragon.NUXI.org) Received: (from obrien@localhost) by dragon.NUXI.org (8.13.4/8.13.1/Submit) id j5DJK9Ve012014 for freebsd-amd64@FreeBSD.ORG; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 12:20:09 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from obrien) Date: Mon, 13 Jun 2005 12:20:09 -0700 From: "David O'Brien" To: freebsd-amd64@FreeBSD.ORG Message-ID: <20050613192009.GA4323@dragon.NUXI.org> References: <200506131616.j5DGGDfr067534@lurza.secnetix.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <200506131616.j5DGGDfr067534@lurza.secnetix.de> X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 6.0-CURRENT Organization: The NUXI BSD Group X-Pgp-Rsa-Fingerprint: B7 4D 3E E9 11 39 5F A3 90 76 5D 69 58 D9 98 7A X-Pgp-Rsa-Keyid: 1024/34F9F9D5 User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.9i Cc: Subject: Re: Athlon64 board with ECC support? X-BeenThere: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd-amd64@FreeBSD.ORG List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the AMD64 platform List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 13 Jun 2005 19:20:11 -0000 On Mon, Jun 13, 2005 at 06:16:13PM +0200, Oliver Fromme wrote: > I'm currently evaluating possibilities to upgrade to a > 64bit system (preferably AMD). I would like to get a > single-processor Athlon64 system, no Opteron, because of > heat, noise and power consumption (and price). There is no difference between Athlon64 and Opteron with respect to heat, noise and power consumption. There is yes a price difference. > PS: I'm reading the list, so there's no need to Cc me. Please set "Reply-To:" so one doesn't have to edit headers. -- -- David (obrien@FreeBSD.org) From owner-freebsd-amd64@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 13 19:22:33 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AAD5216A41C for ; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 19:22:33 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from obrien@NUXI.com) Received: from dragon.NUXI.org (trang.nuxi.com [66.93.134.19]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5177243D1F for ; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 19:22:33 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from obrien@NUXI.com) Received: from dragon.NUXI.org (obrien@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by dragon.NUXI.org (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id j5DJMOvU017516; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 12:22:25 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from obrien@dragon.NUXI.org) Received: (from obrien@localhost) by dragon.NUXI.org (8.13.4/8.13.1/Submit) id j5DJMODc017515; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 12:22:24 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from obrien) Date: Mon, 13 Jun 2005 12:22:24 -0700 From: "David O'Brien" To: Jose M Rodriguez Message-ID: <20050613192224.GB4323@dragon.NUXI.org> References: <200506131616.j5DGGDfr067534@lurza.secnetix.de> <200506132038.25975.josemi@redesjm.local> <200506131147.50300.peter@wemm.org> <200506132102.56346.josemi@redesjm.local> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <200506132102.56346.josemi@redesjm.local> X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 6.0-CURRENT Organization: The NUXI BSD Group X-Pgp-Rsa-Fingerprint: B7 4D 3E E9 11 39 5F A3 90 76 5D 69 58 D9 98 7A X-Pgp-Rsa-Keyid: 1024/34F9F9D5 User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.9i Cc: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Athlon64 board with ECC support? X-BeenThere: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the AMD64 platform List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 13 Jun 2005 19:22:33 -0000 On Mon, Jun 13, 2005 at 09:02:55PM +0200, Jose M Rodriguez wrote: > Well, I only see this in new nvidia nforce4 based boards. I also think > this is more a bios problem. Yes, most likely. The Athlon64 embedded memory controller does support ECC. As Peter mentioned, finding non-registered ECC DIMM's is the challenge. -- -- David (obrien@FreeBSD.org) From owner-freebsd-amd64@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 13 19:24:24 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7CFEB16A41C for ; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 19:24:24 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from obrien@NUXI.com) Received: from dragon.NUXI.org (trang.nuxi.com [66.93.134.19]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 32E2243D5C for ; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 19:24:24 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from obrien@NUXI.com) Received: from dragon.NUXI.org (obrien@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by dragon.NUXI.org (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id j5DJONBa017567; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 12:24:23 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from obrien@dragon.NUXI.org) Received: (from obrien@localhost) by dragon.NUXI.org (8.13.4/8.13.1/Submit) id j5DJONvJ017566; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 12:24:23 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from obrien) Date: Mon, 13 Jun 2005 12:24:23 -0700 From: "David O'Brien" To: Peter Wemm Message-ID: <20050613192423.GC4323@dragon.NUXI.org> References: <200506122320.j5CNKQAF023114@freefall.freebsd.org> <20050613021258.GA5242@dragon.NUXI.org> <20050613071337.GA25893@ip.net.ua> <200506131122.28463.peter@wemm.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <200506131122.28463.peter@wemm.org> X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 6.0-CURRENT Organization: The NUXI BSD Group X-Pgp-Rsa-Fingerprint: B7 4D 3E E9 11 39 5F A3 90 76 5D 69 58 D9 98 7A X-Pgp-Rsa-Keyid: 1024/34F9F9D5 User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.9i Cc: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org Subject: Re: amd64/82178: missing 32bit subsystem X-BeenThere: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: obrien@freebsd.org List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the AMD64 platform List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 13 Jun 2005 19:24:24 -0000 On Mon, Jun 13, 2005 at 11:22:28AM -0700, Peter Wemm wrote: > On Monday 13 June 2005 12:13 am, Ruslan Ermilov wrote: > > On Sun, Jun 12, 2005 at 07:12:58PM -0700, David O'Brien wrote: > > > There is a known issue that there are some missing bits in the 5.4 > > > src/release/Makefile such that the 'base' tarball doesn't contain > > > the 32-bit ld.so and 32-bit shared libs. > > > > This should be fixed in Makefile.inc1, not in release/Makefile. > > That looks a step in the right direction, but I wonder if we can have > this stuff in a seperate sysinstall-selectable distribution instead of > the base dist? Agreed, it would be nice to have more granularity in our install bits. -- -- David (obrien@FreeBSD.org) From owner-freebsd-amd64@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 13 19:29:49 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 78BA816A41C for ; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 19:29:49 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from obrien@NUXI.com) Received: from dragon.NUXI.org (trang.nuxi.com [66.93.134.19]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3EB3643D1D for ; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 19:29:49 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from obrien@NUXI.com) Received: from dragon.NUXI.org (obrien@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by dragon.NUXI.org (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id j5DJTm9K020038; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 12:29:48 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from obrien@dragon.NUXI.org) Received: (from obrien@localhost) by dragon.NUXI.org (8.13.4/8.13.1/Submit) id j5DJTlnU020037; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 12:29:47 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from obrien) Date: Mon, 13 Jun 2005 12:29:47 -0700 From: "David O'Brien" To: Tarasov Alexey Message-ID: <20050613192947.GE4323@dragon.NUXI.org> References: <42A975E0.6010400@wincmd.ru> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <42A975E0.6010400@wincmd.ru> X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 6.0-CURRENT Organization: The NUXI BSD Group X-Pgp-Rsa-Fingerprint: B7 4D 3E E9 11 39 5F A3 90 76 5D 69 58 D9 98 7A X-Pgp-Rsa-Keyid: 1024/34F9F9D5 User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.9i Cc: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Couldn't make kernel on FreeBSD 6.0-CURRENT under amd64 X-BeenThere: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the AMD64 platform List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 13 Jun 2005 19:29:49 -0000 On Fri, Jun 10, 2005 at 03:13:36PM +0400, Tarasov Alexey wrote: > Hello! > > I am trying to make kernel under amd64, but I have following error: > > >stage 3.1. making depencies > >... > >/usr/src/sys/amd64/amd64/genassym.c:1 error: code mode `kernel' not > > supported in 32bit mode > > What should I do to make kernel properly? Give us enough detail to help you. What is the output of 'uname -a'? Exactly what command did you run? You trimmed way to much - what were the, say 10 lines, above the error message? -- -- David (obrien@FreeBSD.org) From owner-freebsd-amd64@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 13 20:01:18 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C012A16A41F for ; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 20:01:18 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from rb@gid.co.uk) Received: from gidgate.gid.co.uk (gid.co.uk [194.32.164.225]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D1A6243D1F for ; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 20:01:17 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from rb@gid.co.uk) Received: (from rb@localhost) by gidgate.gid.co.uk (8.11.7/8.11.6) id j5DK1FY37327; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 21:01:15 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from rb) Message-Id: <6.2.0.14.2.20050613210012.0441d420@gid.co.uk> X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 6.2.0.14 Date: Mon, 13 Jun 2005 21:01:09 +0100 To: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org, Jose M Rodriguez From: Bob Bishop In-Reply-To: <20050613192224.GB4323@dragon.NUXI.org> References: <200506131616.j5DGGDfr067534@lurza.secnetix.de> <200506132038.25975.josemi@redesjm.local> <200506131147.50300.peter@wemm.org> <200506132102.56346.josemi@redesjm.local> <20050613192224.GB4323@dragon.NUXI.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Cc: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Athlon64 board with ECC support? X-BeenThere: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the AMD64 platform List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 13 Jun 2005 20:01:18 -0000 At 20:22 13/06/2005, David O'Brien wrote: >[...] As Peter mentioned, finding non-registered ECC DIMM's is the >challenge. http://www.crucial.com -- Bob Bishop +44 (0)118 940 1243 rb@gid.co.uk fax +44 (0)118 940 1295 From owner-freebsd-amd64@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 13 20:19:07 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 49D5B16A41C; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 20:19:07 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from sean@mcneil.com) Received: from mail.mcneil.com (mcneil.com [24.199.45.54]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 15AA343D48; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 20:19:06 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from sean@mcneil.com) Received: from localhost (localhost.mcneil.com [127.0.0.1]) by mail.mcneil.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 814B1F1BE2; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 13:19:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail.mcneil.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (server.mcneil.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 51034-05; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 13:19:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mcneil.com (mcneil.com [24.199.45.54]) by mail.mcneil.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id F18D0F1BD5; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 13:19:03 -0700 (PDT) From: Sean McNeil To: dR In-Reply-To: <20050613122554.13154.qmail@web52301.mail.yahoo.com> References: <20050613122554.13154.qmail@web52301.mail.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain Organization: Sean McNeil Consulting, Inc Date: Mon, 13 Jun 2005 13:19:03 -0700 Message-Id: <1118693943.51346.5.camel@server.mcneil.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.2.3 FreeBSD GNOME Team Port Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at mcneil.com Cc: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org, freebsd-java@freebsd.org Subject: Re: jdk15 amd64 error: "recompile with -fPIC" ? X-BeenThere: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: sean@mcneil.com List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the AMD64 platform List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 13 Jun 2005 20:19:07 -0000 On Mon, 2005-06-13 at 05:25 -0700, dR wrote: > I have exactly what you list: > > %ls /usr/X11R6/lib/libXm* > /usr/X11R6/lib/libXm.a > /usr/X11R6/lib/libXmu.a > /usr/X11R6/lib/libXmuu.a > /usr/X11R6/lib/libXm.so > /usr/X11R6/lib/libXmu.so > /usr/X11R6/lib/libXmuu.so > /usr/X11R6/lib/libXm.so.3 > /usr/X11R6/lib/libXmu.so.6 > /usr/X11R6/lib/libXmuu.so.1 > > Marko > > > > I would truly appreciate some help with this. > > > > You are missing some shared libraries most likely. > > Check > > > > server# ls /usr/X11R6/lib/libXm* > > /usr/X11R6/lib/libXm.a > > /usr/X11R6/lib/libXmu.so.6 > > /usr/X11R6/lib/libXm.so > > /usr/X11R6/lib/libXmuu.a > > /usr/X11R6/lib/libXm.so.3 > > /usr/X11R6/lib/libXmuu.so > > /usr/X11R6/lib/libXmu.a > > /usr/X11R6/lib/libXmuu.so.1 > > /usr/X11R6/lib/libXmu.so You need to give us more information. We need to see the complete command that this failed with. Nothing in this port should have linked to a static version of that library. We have to find out who is doing it and why. It could be that a different port that jdk15 relies on was miscompiled. It could also be that you missed part of the link command at the failure point when you have to cut/paste and run it manually. Without additional info I'm afraid there isn't much we can do. Sean From owner-freebsd-amd64@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 13 20:42:10 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 93D1A16A41C for ; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 20:42:10 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from lists@natserv.com) Received: from mail1.acecape.com (mail1.acecape.com [66.114.74.12]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3C5E843D1F for ; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 20:42:10 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from lists@natserv.com) Received: from zoraida.natserv.net (p65-147.acedsl.com [66.114.65.147]) by mail1.acecape.com (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5DKg7Nd009301 for ; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 16:42:09 -0400 Date: Mon, 13 Jun 2005 16:42:07 -0400 (EDT) From: Francisco Reyes X-X-Sender: fran@zoraida.natserv.net To: FreeBSD amd64 List Message-ID: <20050613164038.B66607@zoraida.natserv.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Subject: Cvsup in AMD64 X-BeenThere: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the AMD64 platform List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 13 Jun 2005 20:42:10 -0000 Does Cvsup upgrades on AMD64 work exactly the same than in i386? In particular can I just copy a Cvsup configuration file from i386 and without changes? From owner-freebsd-amd64@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 13 21:13:30 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 00FD316A41C for ; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 21:13:30 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from vkushnir@i.kiev.ua) Received: from horse.iptelecom.net.ua (horse.iptelecom.net.ua [212.9.224.8]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0D21D43D48 for ; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 21:13:28 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from vkushnir@i.kiev.ua) Received: from h44.243.159.dialup.iptcom.net ([213.159.243.44]:28892 "EHLO kushnir1.kiev.ua" ident: "SOCKFAULT1" whoson: "vkushnir") by horse.iptelecom.net.ua with ESMTP id S1219743AbVFMVN0 (INRCPT ); Tue, 14 Jun 2005 00:13:26 +0300 Received: from kushnir1.kiev.ua (kushnir1.kiev.ua [10.0.0.1]) by kushnir1.kiev.ua (8.13.4/8.13.3) with ESMTP id j5DLDN7I031280 for ; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 00:13:23 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from vkushnir@i.kiev.ua) Date: Tue, 14 Jun 2005 00:13:23 +0300 (EEST) From: Vladimir Kushnir X-X-Sender: vkushnir@kushnir1.kiev.ua To: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20050614000247.X30515@kushnir1.kiev.ua> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Subject: nForce4 + PCIE Radeons - anybody? X-BeenThere: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the AMD64 platform List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 13 Jun 2005 21:13:30 -0000 Hi all, Has anybody had any luck with this combination? So far no matter what I do stock X (xorg-server) just hangs my box, and xorg-server-snapshot displays absolutely distorted picture (wrong timings?) with xterm pulled over entire screen and so forth :-( Box: -CURRENT (the same was with 5.4 release), Athlon64 (naturally :-), Asus A8N SLI (not Deluxe), Sapphire Radeon X600 TIA, Vladimir From owner-freebsd-amd64@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 13 21:25:59 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ED4EC16A41C; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 21:25:59 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ru@ip.net.ua) Received: from tigra.ip.net.ua (tigra.ip.net.ua [82.193.96.10]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 466A843D1F; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 21:25:59 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ru@ip.net.ua) Received: from localhost (rocky.ip.net.ua [82.193.96.2]) by tigra.ip.net.ua (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5DLPvcA046112; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 00:25:57 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from ru@ip.net.ua) Received: from tigra.ip.net.ua ([82.193.96.10]) by localhost (rocky.ipnet [82.193.96.2]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 05796-16; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 00:25:57 +0300 (EEST) Received: from heffalump.ip.net.ua (heffalump.ip.net.ua [82.193.96.213]) by tigra.ip.net.ua (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5DLPurj046105 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Tue, 14 Jun 2005 00:25:57 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from ru@ip.net.ua) Received: (from ru@localhost) by heffalump.ip.net.ua (8.13.3/8.13.3) id j5DLQQhx069015; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 00:26:26 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from ru) Date: Tue, 14 Jun 2005 00:26:26 +0300 From: Ruslan Ermilov To: "David O'Brien" Message-ID: <20050613212626.GC6385@ip.net.ua> References: <200506122320.j5CNKQAF023114@freefall.freebsd.org> <20050613021258.GA5242@dragon.NUXI.org> <20050613071337.GA25893@ip.net.ua> <200506131122.28463.peter@wemm.org> <20050613192423.GC4323@dragon.NUXI.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="1SQmhf2mF2YjsYvc" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20050613192423.GC4323@dragon.NUXI.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.9i X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at ip.net.ua Cc: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org Subject: Re: amd64/82178: missing 32bit subsystem X-BeenThere: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the AMD64 platform List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 13 Jun 2005 21:26:00 -0000 --1SQmhf2mF2YjsYvc Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Mon, Jun 13, 2005 at 12:24:23PM -0700, David O'Brien wrote: > On Mon, Jun 13, 2005 at 11:22:28AM -0700, Peter Wemm wrote: > > On Monday 13 June 2005 12:13 am, Ruslan Ermilov wrote: > > > On Sun, Jun 12, 2005 at 07:12:58PM -0700, David O'Brien wrote: > > > > There is a known issue that there are some missing bits in the 5.4 > > > > src/release/Makefile such that the 'base' tarball doesn't contain > > > > the 32-bit ld.so and 32-bit shared libs. > > > > > > This should be fixed in Makefile.inc1, not in release/Makefile. > >=20 > > That looks a step in the right direction, but I wonder if we can have= =20 > > this stuff in a seperate sysinstall-selectable distribution instead of= =20 > > the base dist? >=20 > Agreed, it would be nice to have more granularity in our install bits. > =20 OK, I will do it (modulo the sysinstall part). Cheers, --=20 Ruslan Ermilov ru@FreeBSD.org FreeBSD committer --1SQmhf2mF2YjsYvc Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.1 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFCrfoBqRfpzJluFF4RAjzfAJ46Hea4ogItna6bRAPdog9YxMiT9ACfaYyK /qCfSoRQhEQRxPUtWGtRcLU= =Rgpr -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --1SQmhf2mF2YjsYvc-- From owner-freebsd-amd64@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 13 21:39:42 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4976316A41C for ; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 21:39:42 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from scottl@samsco.org) Received: from pooker.samsco.org (pooker.samsco.org [168.103.85.57]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D961D43D5C for ; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 21:39:41 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from scottl@samsco.org) Received: from [192.168.254.14] (imini.samsco.home [192.168.254.14]) (authenticated bits=0) by pooker.samsco.org (8.13.3/8.13.3) with ESMTP id j5DLiWsN006889; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 15:44:32 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from scottl@samsco.org) Message-ID: <42ADFC85.6030503@samsco.org> Date: Mon, 13 Jun 2005 15:37:09 -0600 From: Scott Long User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; PPC Mac OS X Mach-O; en-US; rv:1.7.7) Gecko/20050416 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Vladimir Kushnir References: <20050614000247.X30515@kushnir1.kiev.ua> In-Reply-To: <20050614000247.X30515@kushnir1.kiev.ua> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.8 required=3.8 tests=ALL_TRUSTED autolearn=failed version=3.0.2 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.0.2 (2004-11-16) on pooker.samsco.org Cc: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org Subject: Re: nForce4 + PCIE Radeons - anybody? X-BeenThere: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the AMD64 platform List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 13 Jun 2005 21:39:42 -0000 Vladimir Kushnir wrote: > Hi all, > Has anybody had any luck with this combination? So far no matter what I > do stock X (xorg-server) just hangs my box, and xorg-server-snapshot > displays absolutely distorted picture (wrong timings?) with xterm pulled > over entire screen and so forth :-( > Box: -CURRENT (the same was with 5.4 release), Athlon64 (naturally :-), > Asus A8N SLI (not Deluxe), Sapphire Radeon X600 > > TIA, > Vladimir I have a Gigabyte 'K8 Triton' NForce4 board and a Gigebyte X600 Pro PCIe (Radeon family) video card, and they work fine together. Scott From owner-freebsd-amd64@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 13 21:51:57 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 18DDC16A41C for ; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 21:51:57 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from vkushnir@i.kiev.ua) Received: from horse.iptelecom.net.ua (horse.iptelecom.net.ua [212.9.224.8]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2598E43D1D for ; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 21:51:56 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from vkushnir@i.kiev.ua) Received: from h44.243.159.dialup.iptcom.net ([213.159.243.44]:42967 "EHLO kushnir1.kiev.ua" ident: "SOCKFAULT1" whoson: "vkushnir") by horse.iptelecom.net.ua with ESMTP id S1219746AbVFMVvy (INRCPT ); Tue, 14 Jun 2005 00:51:54 +0300 Received: from kushnir1.kiev.ua (kushnir1.kiev.ua [10.0.0.1]) by kushnir1.kiev.ua (8.13.4/8.13.3) with ESMTP id j5DLppwe031482; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 00:51:51 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from vkushnir@i.kiev.ua) Date: Tue, 14 Jun 2005 00:51:51 +0300 (EEST) From: Vladimir Kushnir X-X-Sender: vkushnir@kushnir1.kiev.ua To: Scott Long In-Reply-To: <42ADFC85.6030503@samsco.org> Message-ID: <20050614004627.P30515@kushnir1.kiev.ua> References: <20050614000247.X30515@kushnir1.kiev.ua> <42ADFC85.6030503@samsco.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org Subject: Re: nForce4 + PCIE Radeons - anybody? X-BeenThere: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the AMD64 platform List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 13 Jun 2005 21:51:57 -0000 On Mon, 13 Jun 2005, Scott Long wrote: > Vladimir Kushnir wrote: > > > I have a Gigabyte 'K8 Triton' NForce4 board and a Gigebyte X600 Pro PCIe > (Radeon family) video card, and they work fine together. > > Scott > Have you had to make any adjustments to xorg.conf/kernel/BIOS settings? Regards, Vladimir From owner-freebsd-amd64@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 13 21:56:14 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4186A16A41C for ; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 21:56:14 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from groot@kde.org) Received: from pandora.cs.kun.nl (pandora.cs.kun.nl [131.174.33.4]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B700943D5F for ; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 21:56:13 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from groot@kde.org) Received: from odin.cs.kun.nl [131.174.33.33] (helo=localhost.englishbreakfastnetwork.org) by pandora.cs.kun.nl (8.12.10/5.2) with ESMTP id j5DLu2I4006119 for ; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 23:56:02 +0200 (MEST) From: Adriaan de Groot To: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org Date: Mon, 13 Jun 2005 23:56:01 +0200 User-Agent: KMail/1.8.50 References: <9BC86C67C3AF7646B9C5382020457A9456EA37@VIP10-WIN2K> <1118670027.59181.32.camel@pav.hide.vol.cz> <20050613120414.V65109@zoraida.natserv.net> In-Reply-To: <20050613120414.V65109@zoraida.natserv.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Multipart/Mixed; boundary="Boundary-00=_xDgrCyymEkx1kn1" Message-Id: <200506132356.01937.groot@kde.org> X-Spam-Score: 0.408 () BAYES_00, FORGED_RCVD_HELO, HTML_70_80, HTML_BADTAG_00_10, HTML_MESSAGE, HTML_NONELEMENT_00_10, HTML_TAG_EXIST_TBODY, INFO_TLD X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.48 on 131.174.33.4 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: Re: What kind of MotherBoard is better for FreeBsd and linux? X-BeenThere: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the AMD64 platform List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 13 Jun 2005 21:56:14 -0000 --Boundary-00=_xDgrCyymEkx1kn1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline On Monday 13 June 2005 18:06, Francisco Reyes wrote: > On Mon, 13 Jun 2005, Pav Lucistnik wrote: > > If people feel like we should have RAID cards on FreeBSD/amd64 list, we > > should start one :) > > I think that belongs in the hardware notes.. but it would be nice if > people indicated if they tested the RAID component of motherboards. > Just my opinion... How about the attached layout for the motherboards page? It opens up some more space for notes and reduces the amount of, well, research required. I hope. I've just done the top few motherboards alphabetically and added stuff where I know what's going on. I'll do the rest too if this is deemed an improvement. -- These are your friends - Adem GPG: FEA2 A3FE Adriaan de Groot --Boundary-00=_xDgrCyymEkx1kn1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="motherboards.html" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"; name="motherboards.html" [1]3D"Navigation=20 FreeBSD/amd64 Project -- motherboards =20 On this page we try to collect information about motherboards for the amd64 architecture and their ability to run FreeBSD. If a particular motherboard is not listed here, chances are we do not know about it. Please submit new entries or correction of existing entries using [2]send-pr(1) or [3]web form. Please set category to www. Abit Asus Gigabyte HP * [4]AV8 * [5]A8N-SLI Deluxe * [6]A8V Deluxe * [7]K8V-SE Deluxe * [8]K8V-X * [9]Ga-7A8DW * [10]Ga-K8NS * [11]Ga-K8NS Pro * [12]Ga-K8VT800 * [13]ProLiant BL45p * [14]ProLiant DL145 * [15]ProLiant DL380 G4 Abit Model Socket Chipset NIC RAID Audio Submitter [16]AV8 939 VIA K8T800 vge(4) Not Tested Not Tested [17]Daniel O'Connor (5.3-RELEASE) The NIC driver (vge(4)) only works if statically compiled into the kernel. Asus Model Socket Chipset NIC RAID Audio Submitter [18]A8N-SLI Deluxe 939 nVidia nForce4 SLI nve(4) Sil3114 Not Tested [19]Florent Thoumie (5.4-STABLE [20]dmesg) On-board nForce ethernet controller will only work with nve(4) which is only in 6-CURRENT (as of Apr 2005). SATA-RAID Controller is Sil3114, recognized only as generic ATA controller; RAID not supported at all in 5-STABLE. [21]A8V Deluxe 939 VIA K8T800 Not Tested Not Tested Not Tested [22]Sangwoo Shim [23]Brian Thomas (5.4-STABLE [24]dmesg= ) (6-CURRENT (Apr 2005) [25]dmesg= ) [26]K8V SE Deluxe 754 VIA K8T800 sk(4) VIA KT800 _________________________________________________________________ Promise 20378 VIA8237 [27]Cl=E9ment Martin (5.4-STABLE [28]dmes= g) On-board RAID controllers are both 2-port; RAID mirroring tested on both, fully functional. RAID mirrors (at least) are compatible across the controllers as well, so you can move disks from one controller to another. Audio is mostly normal, although the mixer(1) settings are off: the "vol" channel has no effect, so you need to use the "ogain" channel instead. xmbmon(1) does not autodetect correct monitoring mode, needs -I flag. [29]K8V-X 754 VIA K8T800 sk(4) Not Tested Not Tested [30]Joseph Koshy (5.4-STABLE) Audio is yet to be tested. The on-board sk0 ethernet controller had issues with 5.3-RELEASE. _________________________________________________________________ [31]home | [32]contact | [33]legal | © 1995-2005 The FreeBSD Project. All rights reserved. Last modified: 2005/06/13 15:22:41 References 1. LYNXIMGMAP:file://localhost/tmp/3D"#bar" 2. 3D"http://www.FreeBSD.org/cgi/man.cgi?query=3Dsend-pr&sektion= 3. file://localhost/tmp/send-pr.html" 4. file://localhost/tmp/3D"#abit-av8" 5. file://localhost/tmp/3D"#asus-a8n-sli" 6. file://localhost/tmp/3D"#asus-a8v" 7. file://localhost/tmp/3D"#asus-k8v-se" 8. file://localhost/tmp/3D"#asus-k8v-x" 9. file://localhost/tmp/3D"#ga-7a8dw" 10. file://localhost/tmp/3D"#ga-k8ns" 11. file://localhost/tmp/3D"#ga-k8nspro" 12. file://localhost/tmp/3D"#ga-k8vt800" 13. file://localhost/tmp/3D"#hp-bl45p" 14. file://localhost/tmp/3D"#hp-dl145" 15. file://localhost/tmp/3D"#hp-dl380" 16. 3D"http://www.abit-usa.com/products/mb/products.php?categori= 17. 3D"mailto:doconnor@gsoft.com.au" 18. 3D"http://www.asus.com/products4.aspx?modelmenu=3D2&mode= 19. 3D"mailto:flz@FreeBSD.org" 20. 3D"http://people.freebsd.org/~flz/local/dmesg.cream" 21. 3D"http://www.asus.com/products4.aspx?modelmenu=3D2&mode= 22. 3D"mailto:ssw@neo.redjade.org" 23. 3D"mailto:googl3meister@gmail.com" 24. 3D"http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=3D82089" 25. 3D"http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=3D80174" 26. 3D"http://www.asus.com/products4.aspx?modelmenu=3D2&mode= 27. 3D"mailto:twisla@gcu.info" 28. 3D"http://twisla.com/dmesg.satan" 29. 3D"http://www.asus.com/products4.aspx?modelmenu=3D2&mode= 30. 3D"mailto:jkoshy@FreeBSD.org" 31. file://localhost/tmp/index.html" 32. file://localhost/tmp/mailto.html" 33. file://localhost/tmp/copyright/index.html" --Boundary-00=_xDgrCyymEkx1kn1-- From owner-freebsd-amd64@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 13 22:01:21 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 74B4C16A41C for ; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 22:01:21 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from groot@kde.org) Received: from pandora.cs.kun.nl (pandora.cs.kun.nl [131.174.33.4]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0011E43D55 for ; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 22:01:20 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from groot@kde.org) Received: from odin.cs.kun.nl [131.174.33.33] (helo=localhost.englishbreakfastnetwork.org) by pandora.cs.kun.nl (8.12.10/5.2) with ESMTP id j5DM1II4006400 for ; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 00:01:18 +0200 (MEST) From: Adriaan de Groot To: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org Date: Tue, 14 Jun 2005 00:01:17 +0200 User-Agent: KMail/1.8.50 References: <9BC86C67C3AF7646B9C5382020457A9456EA37@VIP10-WIN2K> In-Reply-To: <9BC86C67C3AF7646B9C5382020457A9456EA37@VIP10-WIN2K> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200506140001.18107.groot@kde.org> X-Spam-Score: -1.399 () BAYES_00,FORGED_RCVD_HELO X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.48 on 131.174.33.4 Subject: Re: What kind of MotherBoard is better for FreeBsd and linux? X-BeenThere: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the AMD64 platform List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 13 Jun 2005 22:01:21 -0000 On Monday 13 June 2005 15:27, you wrote: > > People should report what they know to work. We should > > probably get rid of the "functional" and "fully > > functional"... OR define what "fully functional" > > means. This was the important bit of my message: if "fully functional" means "the bits I care about worked" then there's just not much point in putting it up there. > The reason SATA was untested was that I found there were > issues getting RAID to raid to work on the Sil chips, just > from reading this list. Oh, so did I. This was one of the few times I've received a new box and thought "oh, crap", since I knew it just wasn't going to work, not for the purposes I have for it. Well, modulo the amount of effort I wanted to put into it. (Gosh, but Scott has an nForce4 board working "just fine", so maybe 6-CURRENT _is_ the way to go.) -- These are your friends - Adem GPG: FEA2 A3FE Adriaan de Groot From owner-freebsd-amd64@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 13 22:14:33 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D120D16A41C for ; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 22:14:33 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from obrien@NUXI.com) Received: from dragon.NUXI.org (trang.nuxi.com [66.93.134.19]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8685B43D4C for ; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 22:14:33 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from obrien@NUXI.com) Received: from dragon.NUXI.org (obrien@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by dragon.NUXI.org (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id j5DMEXBF003761; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 15:14:33 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from obrien@dragon.NUXI.org) Received: (from obrien@localhost) by dragon.NUXI.org (8.13.4/8.13.1/Submit) id j5DMEXCg003760; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 15:14:33 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from obrien) Date: Mon, 13 Jun 2005 15:14:33 -0700 From: "David O'Brien" To: Francisco Reyes Message-ID: <20050613221433.GA3737@dragon.NUXI.org> References: <20050613164038.B66607@zoraida.natserv.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20050613164038.B66607@zoraida.natserv.net> X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 6.0-CURRENT Organization: The NUXI BSD Group X-Pgp-Rsa-Fingerprint: B7 4D 3E E9 11 39 5F A3 90 76 5D 69 58 D9 98 7A X-Pgp-Rsa-Keyid: 1024/34F9F9D5 User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.9i Cc: FreeBSD amd64 List Subject: Re: Cvsup in AMD64 X-BeenThere: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: obrien@freebsd.org List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the AMD64 platform List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 13 Jun 2005 22:14:33 -0000 On Mon, Jun 13, 2005 at 04:42:07PM -0400, Francisco Reyes wrote: > Does Cvsup upgrades on AMD64 work exactly the same than in i386? > In particular can I just copy a Cvsup configuration file from i386 and > without changes? Yes. Same for moving one to Alpha and Sparc64. From owner-freebsd-amd64@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 13 22:24:30 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DA75916A41C for ; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 22:24:30 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from obrien@NUXI.com) Received: from dragon.NUXI.org (trang.nuxi.com [66.93.134.19]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9ECD543D48 for ; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 22:24:30 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from obrien@NUXI.com) Received: from dragon.NUXI.org (obrien@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by dragon.NUXI.org (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id j5DMOUbi003992; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 15:24:30 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from obrien@dragon.NUXI.org) Received: (from obrien@localhost) by dragon.NUXI.org (8.13.4/8.13.1/Submit) id j5DMOTvu003991; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 15:24:29 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from obrien) Date: Mon, 13 Jun 2005 15:24:28 -0700 From: "David O'Brien" To: Oleg Rusanov Message-ID: <20050613222428.GA3835@dragon.NUXI.org> References: <99389684.20050610003512@molecon.ru> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <99389684.20050610003512@molecon.ru> X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 6.0-CURRENT Organization: The NUXI BSD Group X-Pgp-Rsa-Fingerprint: B7 4D 3E E9 11 39 5F A3 90 76 5D 69 58 D9 98 7A X-Pgp-Rsa-Keyid: 1024/34F9F9D5 User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.9i Cc: freebsd-amd64 Subject: Re: What kind of MotherBoard is better for FreeBsd and linux? X-BeenThere: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the AMD64 platform List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 13 Jun 2005 22:24:31 -0000 On Fri, Jun 10, 2005 at 12:35:12AM +0400, Oleg Rusanov wrote: > What kind of MotherBoard for Amd64 OPteron 252 or 264 processors is > better for FreeBsd and linux? > > ----------------Amd64 OPteron 264 MBs------------- > MSI > K8D Master3 (MS-9161) > 2.0 eATX AMD-8131 Supports up to processor stepping: E6 This board is nice in that it has 12 DIMM slots - so you can easily get 12gb or 24gb in a 2P machine. Uses the AMD8100 chipset. > Tyan Thunder K8SD Pro (S2882-D) Also is a fine motherboard. Uses the AMD 8100 chipset. > MSI > K8D Master3 (MS-9161) > 1.0 eATX AMD-8131 Supports up to processor stepping: E4 I would get a rev 2.0 board (as it appears above you can) than get a rev 1.0 board. > Tyan Thunder K8SD Pro (S2882-D) > 04UOT eATX AMD-8131 Supports up to processor stepping: E6 Already talked about this one above. > Thunder K8SR (S2881) > 04MOA eATX AMD-8131 Supports up to processor stepping: E4 This is the 1U rack mount version of the Tyan Thunder K8SD Pro (S2882-D). It also is a fine board using the AMD 8100 chipset. You should be happy with any of these three boards. -- -- David (obrien@FreeBSD.org) From owner-freebsd-amd64@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 13 22:24:57 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-amd64@FreeBSD.org Delivered-To: freebsd-amd64@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A4EA016A41C for ; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 22:24:57 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from pav@FreeBSD.org) Received: from hood.oook.cz (hood.oook.cz [212.27.205.50]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A1F0E43D48 for ; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 22:24:56 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from pav@FreeBSD.org) Received: from hood.oook.cz (localhost.oook.cz [127.0.0.1]) by hood.oook.cz (8.13.3/8.13.3) with ESMTP id j5DMOsoT035833 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Tue, 14 Jun 2005 00:24:54 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from pav@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from pav@localhost) by hood.oook.cz (8.13.3/8.13.3/Submit) id j5DMOsWj035832; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 00:24:54 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from pav@FreeBSD.org) X-Authentication-Warning: hood.oook.cz: pav set sender to pav@FreeBSD.org using -f From: Pav Lucistnik To: Adriaan de Groot In-Reply-To: <200506132356.01937.groot@kde.org> References: <9BC86C67C3AF7646B9C5382020457A9456EA37@VIP10-WIN2K> <1118670027.59181.32.camel@pav.hide.vol.cz> <20050613120414.V65109@zoraida.natserv.net> <200506132356.01937.groot@kde.org> Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="=-IdtQPmloDhuyJqgxWCDl" Date: Tue, 14 Jun 2005 00:24:54 +0200 Message-Id: <1118701494.34657.8.camel@hood.oook.cz> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.2.3 FreeBSD GNOME Team Port Cc: freebsd-amd64@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: What kind of MotherBoard is better for FreeBsd and linux? X-BeenThere: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: pav@FreeBSD.org List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the AMD64 platform List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 13 Jun 2005 22:24:57 -0000 --=-IdtQPmloDhuyJqgxWCDl Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-2 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Adriaan de Groot p=ED=B9e v po 13. 06. 2005 v 23:56 +0200: > On Monday 13 June 2005 18:06, Francisco Reyes wrote: > > On Mon, 13 Jun 2005, Pav Lucistnik wrote: > > > If people feel like we should have RAID cards on FreeBSD/amd64 list, = we > > > should start one :) > > > > I think that belongs in the hardware notes.. but it would be nice if > > people indicated if they tested the RAID component of motherboards. > > Just my opinion... >=20 > How about the attached layout for the motherboards page? It opens up some= more=20 > space for notes and reduces the amount of, well, research required. I hop= e.=20 > I've just done the top few motherboards alphabetically and added stuff wh= ere=20 > I know what's going on. I'll do the rest too if this is deemed an=20 > improvement. Well I got something what looks like eaten by angry lynx, no idea if it's my mimedefang or it was sent that way from you. But I got an idea. I think NIC and RAID columns are a bit overkill, but I agree that Issues and Notes columns de facto carry same information and should be merged. Validity of data is all subject to quality of submissions. If your experience with given board differs from it's entry, don't hesitate to send-pr(1) or mailing me. Directing submissions to me directly is important because I don't monitor all existing mailing lists. --=20 Pav Lucistnik Crucifixion? Good. Out of the door, line on the left, one cross each. Next! --=-IdtQPmloDhuyJqgxWCDl Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Description: This is a digitally signed message part -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.1 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQBCrge2ntdYP8FOsoIRAjI+AJ9DWrP4nIrUSjJCt0NR2VtYZjpoggCgr7v/ p903z/BciI/hpiohNek8WYE= =mVhD -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --=-IdtQPmloDhuyJqgxWCDl-- From owner-freebsd-amd64@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jun 14 05:11:37 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D02F616A41C for ; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 05:11:37 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from kolicz@EUnet.yu) Received: from smtpclu-4.eunet.yu (smtpclu-4.eunet.yu [194.247.192.229]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3E3AB43D48 for ; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 05:11:36 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from kolicz@EUnet.yu) Received: from faust.net (P-2.106.EUnet.yu [213.240.2.106]) by smtpclu-4.eunet.yu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5E5BWd4032669 for ; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 07:11:32 +0200 Received: by faust.net (Postfix, from userid 1001) id A13F5421E; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 07:09:52 +0200 (CEST) Date: Tue, 14 Jun 2005 07:09:52 +0200 From: Zoran Kolic To: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20050614050952.GB655@faust.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline X-Virus-Scan: EUnet-AVAS-Milter X-AVAS-Virus-Status: clean X-Spam-Checker: EUnet-AVAS-Milter X-AVAS-Spam-Score: -2.4 X-AVAS-Spam-Symbols: AWL BAYES_44 Subject: temperature measurement X-BeenThere: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the AMD64 platform List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 14 Jun 2005 05:11:37 -0000 Hi all! I'd like to know is there any way to approach sensors on nforce3 250 motherboard (except from bios)? I cannot see option in acpi for that. Lm doesn't make a job. Release 5.4 for amd64. Asus k8n nforce3 250 Amd64 2800+ Best regards Zoran From owner-freebsd-amd64@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jun 14 05:35:36 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7EA8E16A41C for ; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 05:35:36 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from lehmann@ans-netz.de) Received: from avocado.salatschuessel.net (avocado.salatschuessel.net [83.136.81.184]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 09FE243D4C for ; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 05:35:35 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from lehmann@ans-netz.de) Received: (qmail 44991 invoked by uid 89); 14 Jun 2005 05:34:28 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO kartoffel.salatschuessel.net) (83.136.81.185) by avocado.salatschuessel.net with SMTP; 14 Jun 2005 05:34:28 -0000 Date: Tue, 14 Jun 2005 07:35:33 +0200 From: Oliver Lehmann To: Zoran Kolic Message-Id: <20050614073533.6ebcf607.lehmann@ans-netz.de> In-Reply-To: <20050614050952.GB655@faust.net> References: <20050614050952.GB655@faust.net> X-Mailer: Sylpheed version 1.9.12 (GTK+ 2.6.7; amd64-portbld-freebsd6.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org Subject: Re: temperature measurement X-BeenThere: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the AMD64 platform List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 14 Jun 2005 05:35:36 -0000 Zoran Kolic wrote: > to approach sensors on nforce3 250 > motherboard I don't now if it works with your chipset, but you could ports/sysutils/ xmbmon a try. -- Oliver Lehmann http://www.pofo.de/ http://wishlist.ans-netz.de/ From owner-freebsd-amd64@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jun 14 07:00:08 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-amd64@FreeBSD.org Delivered-To: freebsd-amd64@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 714F616A41C; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 07:00:08 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from obrien@NUXI.com) Received: from dragon.NUXI.org (trang.nuxi.com [66.93.134.19]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 09FB843D1F; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 07:00:08 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from obrien@NUXI.com) Received: from dragon.NUXI.org (obrien@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by dragon.NUXI.org (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id j5E707xA032755; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 00:00:07 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from obrien@dragon.NUXI.org) Received: (from obrien@localhost) by dragon.NUXI.org (8.13.4/8.13.1/Submit) id j5E70719032740; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 00:00:07 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from obrien) Date: Tue, 14 Jun 2005 00:00:06 -0700 From: "David O'Brien" To: Pav Lucistnik Message-ID: <20050614070006.GA27141@dragon.NUXI.org> References: <9BC86C67C3AF7646B9C5382020457A9456EA37@VIP10-WIN2K> <1118670027.59181.32.camel@pav.hide.vol.cz> <20050613120414.V65109@zoraida.natserv.net> <200506132356.01937.groot@kde.org> <1118701494.34657.8.camel@hood.oook.cz> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <1118701494.34657.8.camel@hood.oook.cz> X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 6.0-CURRENT Organization: The NUXI BSD Group X-Pgp-Rsa-Fingerprint: B7 4D 3E E9 11 39 5F A3 90 76 5D 69 58 D9 98 7A X-Pgp-Rsa-Keyid: 1024/34F9F9D5 User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.9i Cc: freebsd-amd64@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: What kind of MotherBoard is better for FreeBsd and linux? X-BeenThere: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd-amd64@FreeBSD.org List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the AMD64 platform List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 14 Jun 2005 07:00:08 -0000 On Tue, Jun 14, 2005 at 12:24:54AM +0200, Pav Lucistnik wrote: > I think NIC and RAID columns are a bit overkill Why? Those two devices are the ones most likely to give trouble - after basic booting. -- -- David (obrien@FreeBSD.org) From owner-freebsd-amd64@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jun 14 07:19:15 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2381C16A41C; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 07:19:15 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from obrien@NUXI.com) Received: from dragon.NUXI.org (trang.nuxi.com [66.93.134.19]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D824B43D4C; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 07:19:14 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from obrien@NUXI.com) Received: from dragon.NUXI.org (obrien@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by dragon.NUXI.org (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id j5E7JEeD055836; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 00:19:14 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from obrien@dragon.NUXI.org) Received: (from obrien@localhost) by dragon.NUXI.org (8.13.4/8.13.1/Submit) id j5E7JESe055835; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 00:19:14 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from obrien) Date: Tue, 14 Jun 2005 00:19:14 -0700 From: "David O'Brien" To: Ruslan Ermilov Message-ID: <20050614071914.GD55703@dragon.NUXI.org> References: <200506122320.j5CNKQAF023114@freefall.freebsd.org> <20050613021258.GA5242@dragon.NUXI.org> <20050613071337.GA25893@ip.net.ua> <200506131122.28463.peter@wemm.org> <20050613192423.GC4323@dragon.NUXI.org> <20050613212626.GC6385@ip.net.ua> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20050613212626.GC6385@ip.net.ua> X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 6.0-CURRENT Organization: The NUXI BSD Group X-Pgp-Rsa-Fingerprint: B7 4D 3E E9 11 39 5F A3 90 76 5D 69 58 D9 98 7A X-Pgp-Rsa-Keyid: 1024/34F9F9D5 User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.9i Cc: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org Subject: Re: amd64/82178: missing 32bit subsystem X-BeenThere: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: obrien@freebsd.org List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the AMD64 platform List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 14 Jun 2005 07:19:15 -0000 On Tue, Jun 14, 2005 at 12:26:26AM +0300, Ruslan Ermilov wrote: > On Mon, Jun 13, 2005 at 12:24:23PM -0700, David O'Brien wrote: > > On Mon, Jun 13, 2005 at 11:22:28AM -0700, Peter Wemm wrote: > > > On Monday 13 June 2005 12:13 am, Ruslan Ermilov wrote: > > > > On Sun, Jun 12, 2005 at 07:12:58PM -0700, David O'Brien wrote: > > > > > There is a known issue that there are some missing bits in the 5.4 > > > > > src/release/Makefile such that the 'base' tarball doesn't contain > > > > > the 32-bit ld.so and 32-bit shared libs. > > > > > > > > This should be fixed in Makefile.inc1, not in release/Makefile. > > > > > > That looks a step in the right direction, but I wonder if we can have > > > this stuff in a seperate sysinstall-selectable distribution instead of > > > the base dist? > > > > Agreed, it would be nice to have more granularity in our install bits. > > > OK, I will do it (modulo the sysinstall part). I can do that part if you like. Just send the patch that will create the 32compat/ directory and splited 32compat.XY files. Is 32compat or 32bit a suitable name, or do we want a different one? "compat32" may be confused with FreeBSD-3.2 compatibility libs. -- -- David (obrien@FreeBSD.org) From owner-freebsd-amd64@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jun 14 08:14:34 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-amd64@FreeBSD.org Delivered-To: freebsd-amd64@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5AC0116A41C for ; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 08:14:34 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from pav@FreeBSD.org) Received: from hood.oook.cz (hood.oook.cz [212.27.205.50]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 94BF043D4C for ; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 08:14:33 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from pav@FreeBSD.org) Received: from hood.oook.cz (localhost.oook.cz [127.0.0.1]) by hood.oook.cz (8.13.3/8.13.3) with ESMTP id j5E8EVTa039670 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 10:14:31 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from pav@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from pav@localhost) by hood.oook.cz (8.13.3/8.13.3/Submit) id j5E8EV1I039669 for freebsd-amd64@FreeBSD.org; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 10:14:31 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from pav@FreeBSD.org) X-Authentication-Warning: hood.oook.cz: pav set sender to pav@FreeBSD.org using -f From: Pav Lucistnik To: freebsd-amd64@FreeBSD.org In-Reply-To: <20050614070006.GA27141@dragon.NUXI.org> References: <9BC86C67C3AF7646B9C5382020457A9456EA37@VIP10-WIN2K> <1118670027.59181.32.camel@pav.hide.vol.cz> <20050613120414.V65109@zoraida.natserv.net> <200506132356.01937.groot@kde.org> <1118701494.34657.8.camel@hood.oook.cz> <20050614070006.GA27141@dragon.NUXI.org> Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="=-XZjjUnNFQxD4g9EDeXCR" Date: Tue, 14 Jun 2005 10:14:31 +0200 Message-Id: <1118736871.39418.14.camel@hood.oook.cz> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.2.3 FreeBSD GNOME Team Port Cc: Subject: Re: What kind of MotherBoard is better for FreeBsd and linux? X-BeenThere: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: pav@FreeBSD.org List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the AMD64 platform List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 14 Jun 2005 08:14:34 -0000 --=-XZjjUnNFQxD4g9EDeXCR Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-2 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable David O'Brien p=ED=B9e v =FAt 14. 06. 2005 v 00:00 -0700: > On Tue, Jun 14, 2005 at 12:24:54AM +0200, Pav Lucistnik wrote: > > I think NIC and RAID columns are a bit overkill >=20 > Why? Those two devices are the ones most likely to give trouble - after > basic booting. Agreed. Any problems encountered with them should be of course noted in Notes column, and their device nodes/drivers can be read from dmesgs. And of course, I'm lazy boy and as such oppose any change that would bring me a lot of work :) --=20 Pav Lucistnik Me go and see Elves and all! Hooray! --=-XZjjUnNFQxD4g9EDeXCR Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Description: This is a digitally signed message part -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.1 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQBCrpHnntdYP8FOsoIRAskrAKCnm/IB6JT35UV/Ao1C4K6JFXwd9wCgohRO X/xO1vLTBlTWoRKGUymR/QE= =9rmU -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --=-XZjjUnNFQxD4g9EDeXCR-- From owner-freebsd-amd64@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jun 14 09:35:27 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8C17B16A41C for ; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 09:35:27 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from martin@gneto.com) Received: from av9-1-sn2.hy.skanova.net (av9-1-sn2.hy.skanova.net [81.228.8.179]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 37E7643D48 for ; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 09:35:26 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from martin@gneto.com) Received: by av9-1-sn2.hy.skanova.net (Postfix, from userid 502) id 304AE3816D; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 11:35:25 +0200 (CEST) Received: from smtp4-1-sn2.hy.skanova.net (smtp4-1-sn2.hy.skanova.net [81.228.8.92]) by av9-1-sn2.hy.skanova.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 21E3537FBE; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 11:35:25 +0200 (CEST) Received: from [192.168.2.30] (h63n1fls31o985.telia.com [213.65.16.63]) by smtp4-1-sn2.hy.skanova.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E8F3B37E4A; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 11:35:24 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <42AEA4DB.7020604@gneto.com> Date: Tue, 14 Jun 2005 11:35:23 +0200 From: Martin Nilsson User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (Windows/20041206) X-Accept-Language: sv, en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org References: <99389684.20050610003512@molecon.ru> <20050613222428.GA3835@dragon.NUXI.org> In-Reply-To: <20050613222428.GA3835@dragon.NUXI.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Subject: Re: What kind of MotherBoard is better for FreeBsd and linux? X-BeenThere: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the AMD64 platform List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 14 Jun 2005 09:35:27 -0000 David O'Brien wrote: > On Fri, Jun 10, 2005 at 12:35:12AM +0400, Oleg Rusanov wrote: > >>What kind of MotherBoard for Amd64 OPteron 252 or 264 processors is >>better for FreeBsd and linux? >> >>----------------Amd64 OPteron 264 MBs------------- >>MSI >> K8D Master3 (MS-9161) >> 2.0 eATX AMD-8131 Supports up to processor stepping: E6 > > > This board is nice in that it has 12 DIMM slots - so you can easily get > 12gb or 24gb in a 2P machine. Uses the AMD8100 chipset. It is very picky with the memories on the CPU that have 8 slots. MSI only supports 8 dimms on that CPU at 266MHz, 6*dimm at 333MHz. I managed to get it to work at 400MHz with 6* Samsung handpicked dimms (bga chips) but YMMV, so don't count on it! MSI:s support is slow and terrible - you get what you pay for! Also IPMI is not availabe on this board, making it not that useful as a server in a remote location. I'm testing the Supermicro OEM boards instead, I will post a status report when I know more. /Martin From owner-freebsd-amd64@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jun 14 10:01:46 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7317716A420 for ; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 10:01:46 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from obrien@NUXI.com) Received: from dragon.NUXI.org (trang.nuxi.com [66.93.134.19]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0265D43D1D for ; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 10:01:45 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from obrien@NUXI.com) Received: from dragon.NUXI.org (obrien@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by dragon.NUXI.org (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id j5EA1jPc001165; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 03:01:45 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from obrien@dragon.NUXI.org) Received: (from obrien@localhost) by dragon.NUXI.org (8.13.4/8.13.1/Submit) id j5EA1i0r001164; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 03:01:44 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from obrien) Date: Tue, 14 Jun 2005 03:01:44 -0700 From: "David O'Brien" To: Martin Nilsson Message-ID: <20050614100144.GA1103@dragon.NUXI.org> References: <99389684.20050610003512@molecon.ru> <20050613222428.GA3835@dragon.NUXI.org> <42AEA4DB.7020604@gneto.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <42AEA4DB.7020604@gneto.com> X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 6.0-CURRENT Organization: The NUXI BSD Group X-Pgp-Rsa-Fingerprint: B7 4D 3E E9 11 39 5F A3 90 76 5D 69 58 D9 98 7A X-Pgp-Rsa-Keyid: 1024/34F9F9D5 User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.9i Cc: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org Subject: Re: What kind of MotherBoard is better for FreeBsd and linux? X-BeenThere: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: obrien@freebsd.org List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the AMD64 platform List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 14 Jun 2005 10:01:46 -0000 On Tue, Jun 14, 2005 at 11:35:23AM +0200, Martin Nilsson wrote: > David O'Brien wrote: > >On Fri, Jun 10, 2005 at 12:35:12AM +0400, Oleg Rusanov wrote: > > > >>What kind of MotherBoard for Amd64 OPteron 252 or 264 processors is > >>better for FreeBsd and linux? > >> > >>----------------Amd64 OPteron 264 MBs------------- > >>MSI > >>K8D Master3 (MS-9161) > >>2.0 eATX AMD-8131 Supports up to processor stepping: E6 > > > >This board is nice in that it has 12 DIMM slots - so you can easily get > >12gb or 24gb in a 2P machine. Uses the AMD8100 chipset. > > It is very picky with the memories on the CPU that have 8 slots. MSI > only supports 8 dimms on that CPU at 266MHz, 6*dimm at 333MHz. It depends on the revision of the Opteron used. Rev.E CPU's should handle 8*DDR333 fine. > MSI:s support is slow and terrible - you get what you pay for! Agreed! They also have a nasty habit of end-of-lifeing their Opteron boards. In fact you can't even navigate to the MS-9161 product page on the MSI USA web site. :-( > I'm testing the Supermicro OEM boards instead, I will post a status > report when I know more. What model board do you have? -- -- David (obrien@FreeBSD.org) From owner-freebsd-amd64@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jun 14 10:31:38 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4A00416A41C for ; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 10:31:38 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from lexa@wincmd.ru) Received: from kunnilinux.birulevo.net (kunnilinux.birulevo.net [195.54.208.3]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DB94043D1D for ; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 10:31:35 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from lexa@wincmd.ru) Received: (qmail 3207 invoked by uid 210); 14 Jun 2005 14:27:28 +0400 Received: from 10.4.22.222 by kunnilinux (envelope-from , uid 201) with qmail-scanner-1.25st (clamdscan: 0.85.1/936. spamassassin: 3.0.4. perlscan: 1.25st. Clear:RC:1(10.4.22.222):. Processed in 0.058612 secs); 14 Jun 2005 10:27:28 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?10.4.22.222?) (10.4.22.222) by kunnilinux.birulevo.net with SMTP; 14 Jun 2005 14:27:27 +0400 Message-ID: <42AEB207.7020907@wincmd.ru> Date: Tue, 14 Jun 2005 14:31:35 +0400 From: Tarasov Alexey User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (Windows/20041206) X-Accept-Language: ru-ru, ru MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org References: <42A975E0.6010400@wincmd.ru> <20050613192947.GE4323@dragon.NUXI.org> In-Reply-To: <20050613192947.GE4323@dragon.NUXI.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Couldn't make kernel on FreeBSD 6.0-CURRENT under amd64 X-BeenThere: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the AMD64 platform List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 14 Jun 2005 10:31:38 -0000 David O'Brien wrote: >Give us enough detail to help you. >What is the output of 'uname -a'? Exactly what command did you run? You >trimmed way to much - what were the, say 10 lines, above the error >message? > > > > [11:22:58]root@computer.lexasoft.ru: > /home/lexa>uname -a > FreeBSD computer.lexasoft.ru 6.0-CURRENT FreeBSD 6.0-CURRENT #0: Thu > Jun 9 14:31:32 MSD 2005 > root@computer.lexasoft.ru:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC i386 > [11:25:12]root@computer.lexasoft.ru: > /usr/src>make buildworld No errors... > [11:25:12]root@computer.lexasoft.ru: > /usr/src>make buildkernel TARGET_ARCH=amd64 > -------------------------------------------------------------- > >>> stage 3.1: making dependencies > -------------------------------------------------------------- > cd /usr/obj/amd64/usr/src/sys/GENERIC; > MAKEOBJDIRPREFIX=/usr/obj/amd64 MACHINE_ARCH=amd64 MACHINE=amd64 > CPUTYPE= GROFF_BIN_PATH=/usr/obj/amd64/usr/src/tmp/legacy/usr/bin > GROFF_FONT_PATH=/usr/obj/amd64/usr/src/tmp/legacy/usr/share/groff_font > GROFF_TMAC_PATH=/usr/obj/amd64/usr/src/tmp/legacy/usr/share/tmac > _SHLIBDIRPREFIX=/usr/obj/amd64/usr/src/tmp INSTALL="sh > /usr/src/tools/install.sh" > PATH=/usr/obj/amd64/usr/src/tmp/legacy/usr/sbin:/usr/obj/amd64/usr/src/tmp/legacy/usr/bin:/usr/obj/amd64/usr/src/tmp/legacy/usr/games:/usr/obj/amd64/usr/src/tmp/usr/sbin:/usr/obj/amd64/usr/src/tmp/usr/bin:/usr/obj/amd64/usr/src/tmp/usr/games:/sbin:/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin > /usr/obj/usr/src/make.i386/make KERNEL=kernel depend -DNO_MODULES_OBJ > cc -c -O2 -frename-registers -pipe -fno-strict-aliasing -Wall > -Wredundant-decls -Wnested-externs -Wstrict-prototypes > -Wmissing-prototypes -Wpointer-arith -Winline -Wcast-qual > -fformat-extensions -std=c99 -g -nostdinc -I- -I. -I/usr/src/sys > -I/usr/src/sys/contrib/dev/acpica -I/usr/src/sys/contrib/altq > -I/usr/src/sys/contrib/ipfilter -I/usr/src/sys/contrib/pf > -I/usr/src/sys/contrib/dev/ath -I/usr/src/sys/contrib/dev/ath/freebsd > -I/usr/src/sys/contrib/ngatm -I/usr/src/sys/dev/twa -D_KERNEL -include > opt_global.h -finline-limit=8000 --param inline-unit-growth=100 > --param large-function-growth=1000 -fno-omit-frame-pointer > -mcmodel=kernel -mno-red-zone -mfpmath=387 -mno-sse -mno-sse2 -mno-mmx > -mno-3dnow -msoft-float -fno-asynchronous-unwind-tables -ffreestanding > /usr/src/sys/amd64/amd64/genassym.c > /usr/src/sys/amd64/amd64/genassym.c:1: error: code model `kernel' not > supported in the 32 bit mode > *** Error code 1 > > Stop in /usr/obj/amd64/usr/src/sys/GENERIC. > *** Error code 1 > > Stop in /usr/src. > *** Error code 1 > > Stop in /usr/src. > [11:28:48]root@computer.lexasoft.ru: > /usr/src>cat /etc/make.conf > # -- use.perl generated deltas -- # > # Created: Wed Jun 1 22:17:28 2005 > # Setting to use base perl from ports: > PERL_VER=5.8.5 > PERL_VERSION=5.8.5 > PERL_ARCH=mach > NOPERL=yo > NO_PERL=yo > NO_PERL_WRAPPER=yo > > #FETCH_CMD=/usr/local/bin/wget --continue --passive-ftp -t 3 > > FETCH_CMD=/usr/local/bin/wget \${URI} Best regards, Alexey From owner-freebsd-amd64@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jun 14 12:15:17 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D253316A41C; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 12:15:17 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from martin@gneto.com) Received: from av12-1-sn2.hy.skanova.net (av12-1-sn2.hy.skanova.net [81.228.8.185]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 756FB43D1F; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 12:15:17 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from martin@gneto.com) Received: by av12-1-sn2.hy.skanova.net (Postfix, from userid 502) id BA5BE3821F; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 14:15:09 +0200 (CEST) Received: from smtp4-2-sn2.hy.skanova.net (smtp4-2-sn2.hy.skanova.net [81.228.8.93]) by av12-1-sn2.hy.skanova.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5D8E338216; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 14:15:06 +0200 (CEST) Received: from [192.168.2.30] (h63n1fls31o985.telia.com [213.65.16.63]) by smtp4-2-sn2.hy.skanova.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3DBB937E4A; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 14:15:06 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <42AECA48.3090101@gneto.com> Date: Tue, 14 Jun 2005 14:15:04 +0200 From: Martin Nilsson User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (Windows/20041206) X-Accept-Language: sv, en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: obrien@freebsd.org References: <99389684.20050610003512@molecon.ru> <20050613222428.GA3835@dragon.NUXI.org> <42AEA4DB.7020604@gneto.com> <20050614100144.GA1103@dragon.NUXI.org> In-Reply-To: <20050614100144.GA1103@dragon.NUXI.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org Subject: Re: What kind of MotherBoard is better for FreeBsd and linux? X-BeenThere: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the AMD64 platform List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 14 Jun 2005 12:15:17 -0000 David O'Brien wrote: >>>>MSI >>>>K8D Master3 (MS-9161) >>It is very picky with the memories on the CPU that have 8 slots. MSI >>only supports 8 dimms on that CPU at 266MHz, 6*dimm at 333MHz. > > It depends on the revision of the Opteron used. Rev.E CPU's should > handle 8*DDR333 fine. Aha, nice to know I probably had rev.CG (2*246) as this was a couple of months ago. Are rev. E CPU:s out yet in models slower than the pricy 252? >>MSI:s support is slow and terrible - you get what you pay for! > Agreed! They also have a nasty habit of end-of-lifeing their Opteron > boards. In fact you can't even navigate to the MS-9161 product page on > the MSI USA web site. :-( The BIOS for their older Opteron boards haven't been updated in ages! >>I'm testing the Supermicro OEM boards instead, I will post a status >>report when I know more. > What model board do you have? H8DAE-B (AMD 8131/8111) H8DCE-B (nVidia CK804/IO4) On order, haven't got these yet. /Martin From owner-freebsd-amd64@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jun 14 13:39:26 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 376E916A41C; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 13:39:26 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ru@ip.net.ua) Received: from tigra.ip.net.ua (tigra.ip.net.ua [82.193.96.10]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 59F7843D53; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 13:39:25 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ru@ip.net.ua) Received: from localhost (rocky.ip.net.ua [82.193.96.2]) by tigra.ip.net.ua (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5EDdOqT009686; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 16:39:24 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from ru@ip.net.ua) Received: from tigra.ip.net.ua ([82.193.96.10]) by localhost (rocky.ipnet [82.193.96.2]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 44248-16; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 16:39:23 +0300 (EEST) Received: from heffalump.ip.net.ua (heffalump.ip.net.ua [82.193.96.213]) by tigra.ip.net.ua (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5EDdNgB009683 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Tue, 14 Jun 2005 16:39:23 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from ru@ip.net.ua) Received: (from ru@localhost) by heffalump.ip.net.ua (8.13.3/8.13.3) id j5EDdqwR076554; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 16:39:52 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from ru) Date: Tue, 14 Jun 2005 16:39:52 +0300 From: Ruslan Ermilov To: "David O'Brien" Message-ID: <20050614133952.GF75048@ip.net.ua> References: <200506122320.j5CNKQAF023114@freefall.freebsd.org> <20050613021258.GA5242@dragon.NUXI.org> <20050613071337.GA25893@ip.net.ua> <200506131122.28463.peter@wemm.org> <20050613192423.GC4323@dragon.NUXI.org> <20050613212626.GC6385@ip.net.ua> <20050614071914.GD55703@dragon.NUXI.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="Zrag5V6pnZGjLKiw" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20050614071914.GD55703@dragon.NUXI.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.9i X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at ip.net.ua Cc: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org Subject: Re: amd64/82178: missing 32bit subsystem X-BeenThere: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the AMD64 platform List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 14 Jun 2005 13:39:26 -0000 --Zrag5V6pnZGjLKiw Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Tue, Jun 14, 2005 at 12:19:14AM -0700, David O'Brien wrote: > On Tue, Jun 14, 2005 at 12:26:26AM +0300, Ruslan Ermilov wrote: > > On Mon, Jun 13, 2005 at 12:24:23PM -0700, David O'Brien wrote: > > > On Mon, Jun 13, 2005 at 11:22:28AM -0700, Peter Wemm wrote: > > > > On Monday 13 June 2005 12:13 am, Ruslan Ermilov wrote: > > > > > On Sun, Jun 12, 2005 at 07:12:58PM -0700, David O'Brien wrote: > > > > > > There is a known issue that there are some missing bits in the = 5.4 > > > > > > src/release/Makefile such that the 'base' tarball doesn't conta= in > > > > > > the 32-bit ld.so and 32-bit shared libs. > > > > > > > > > > This should be fixed in Makefile.inc1, not in release/Makefile. > > > >=20 > > > > That looks a step in the right direction, but I wonder if we can ha= ve=20 > > > > this stuff in a seperate sysinstall-selectable distribution instead= of=20 > > > > the base dist? > > >=20 > > > Agreed, it would be nice to have more granularity in our install bits. > > > =20 > > OK, I will do it (modulo the sysinstall part). >=20 > I can do that part if you like. Just send the patch that will create the > 32compat/ directory and splited 32compat.XY files. >=20 > Is 32compat or 32bit a suitable name, or do we want a different one? > "compat32" may be confused with FreeBSD-3.2 compatibility libs. > =20 I've choosen a more natural "lib32". You should have the patch in your mailbox now. Cheers, --=20 Ruslan Ermilov ru@FreeBSD.org FreeBSD committer --Zrag5V6pnZGjLKiw Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.1 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFCrt4oqRfpzJluFF4RAjVJAJ4kkdgYmcanYjkIR4EsL78kuvNkmQCcD5u6 nr1ACZv739HdM604lbbYW/s= =tt8x -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Zrag5V6pnZGjLKiw-- From owner-freebsd-amd64@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jun 14 13:49:19 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 98A6916A41C for ; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 13:49:19 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ohartman@mail.uni-mainz.de) Received: from mailgate2.zdv.Uni-Mainz.DE (mailgate2.zdv.Uni-Mainz.DE [134.93.178.130]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 44C6E43D1D for ; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 13:49:19 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ohartman@mail.uni-mainz.de) Received: from [134.93.180.218] (edda.Physik.Uni-Mainz.DE [134.93.180.218]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mailgate2.zdv.Uni-Mainz.DE (Postfix) with ESMTP id AA64230001E8 for ; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 15:49:17 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <42AEE063.6090104@mail.uni-mainz.de> Date: Tue, 14 Jun 2005 15:49:23 +0200 From: "O. Hartmann" Organization: Institut =?ISO-8859-1?Q?f=FCr_Geophysik?= User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.2 (X11/20050424) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org References: <200506131616.j5DGGDfr067534@lurza.secnetix.de> <200506132038.25975.josemi@redesjm.local> <200506131147.50300.peter@wemm.org> <200506132102.56346.josemi@redesjm.local> <20050613192224.GB4323@dragon.NUXI.org> In-Reply-To: <20050613192224.GB4323@dragon.NUXI.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at uni-mainz.de Subject: Re: Athlon64 board with ECC support? X-BeenThere: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the AMD64 platform List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 14 Jun 2005 13:49:19 -0000 David O'Brien wrote: > On Mon, Jun 13, 2005 at 09:02:55PM +0200, Jose M Rodriguez wrote: > >>Well, I only see this in new nvidia nforce4 based boards. I also think >>this is more a bios problem. > > > Yes, most likely. The Athlon64 embedded memory controller does support > ECC. As Peter mentioned, finding non-registered ECC DIMM's is the > challenge. > On my ASUS A8N-SLI Deluxe mobo with Athlon64 3500+ (Winchester core) I use 2x 1GB DIMMS DDR400 from Infineon (have no part number at work here, so I can give them when back at home if anybodey is interested). Memory works well for me but may not run at the highest possible access. Oliver From owner-freebsd-amd64@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jun 14 15:42:33 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-amd64@FreeBSD.ORG Delivered-To: freebsd-amd64@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E632A16A41C for ; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 15:42:32 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from olli@lurza.secnetix.de) Received: from lurza.secnetix.de (lurza.secnetix.de [83.120.8.8]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5AF9243D48 for ; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 15:42:32 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from olli@lurza.secnetix.de) Received: from lurza.secnetix.de (upcryt@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by lurza.secnetix.de (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id j5EFgUmO015428 for ; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 17:42:30 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from oliver.fromme@secnetix.de) Received: (from olli@localhost) by lurza.secnetix.de (8.13.1/8.13.1/Submit) id j5EFgUvq015427; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 17:42:30 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from olli) Date: Tue, 14 Jun 2005 17:42:30 +0200 (CEST) Message-Id: <200506141542.j5EFgUvq015427@lurza.secnetix.de> From: Oliver Fromme To: freebsd-amd64@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <200506131126.48885.peter@wemm.org> X-Newsgroups: list.freebsd-amd64 User-Agent: tin/1.5.4-20000523 ("1959") (UNIX) (FreeBSD/4.11-RELEASE (i386)) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Cc: Subject: Re: Athlon64 board with ECC support? X-BeenThere: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd-amd64@FreeBSD.ORG List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the AMD64 platform List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 14 Jun 2005 15:42:33 -0000 Peter Wemm wrote: > On Monday 13 June 2005 09:16 am, Oliver Fromme wrote: > > I'm currently evaluating possibilities to upgrade to a > > 64bit system (preferably AMD). I would like to get a > > single-processor Athlon64 system, no Opteron, because of > > heat, noise and power consumption (and price). > > > > Furthermore, I would like to have ECC RAM. However, it > > seems that this requirement is not easy to meet. > > > > So far, Google told me that the Athlon64 and the socket939 > > basically support ECC. However, it also requires support > > in the chipset and in the BIOS. I've looked at a few > > random socket939 board specs, and all of them allow the > > use of ECC memory, _but_ they don't support using it for > > actual error correction, i.e. they treat 72bit DIMMs like > > 64bit DIMMs and ignore the ECC part. This is not what I > > want, of course. > > > > Now my question is: Are there any Athlon64 (s939) boards > > that really support ECC RAM? Any recommendations? > > I was under the impression that the memory controller always supported > ECC. I know my socket-754 motherboard (asus) does. I've checked the > memory controller settings from within freebsd and confirmed that ECC > is indeed enabled. There is no chipset support required because the > ram is directly connected to the cpu. OK, I guess they could leave out > the traces on the motherboard for bits 65 through 72, but that would be > pretty silly. And of course the bios has to turn it on, as you say. > But thats all there is to it. Thanks for the information. So that means, basically, the only thing that might prevent a board from supporting ECC is the BIOS, right? A friend of mine has got an MSI K8T Neo2-FIR (socket939). The board's manual specifically says that it does _not_ support ECC memory (although it's possible to put ECC RAM modules into the slots, the ECC bits won't be used). BTW, apart from not supporting ECC, the board runs fine with FreeBSD and Solaris. So the question remains: Can anyone recommend a socket939 board that definitely supports ECC RAM? (That means, a board with a BIOS which can flip the "ECC enable" bit.) > The real trick is finding unregistered ECC (72 bit wide) memory though. That doesn't seem to be difficult over here. The well- known German online-shop "Alternate" (www.alternate.de) offers various brands, sizes and speeds of non-registered ECC DDR modules (Buffalo, Infineon, Kingston, Transcend), even at reasonable prices. Best regards Oliver -- Oliver Fromme, secnetix GmbH & Co KG, Oettingenstr. 2, 80538 München Any opinions expressed in this message may be personal to the author and may not necessarily reflect the opinions of secnetix in any way. I suggested holding a "Python Object Oriented Programming Seminar", but the acronym was unpopular. -- Joseph Strout From owner-freebsd-amd64@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jun 14 16:10:14 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-amd64@FreeBSD.ORG Delivered-To: freebsd-amd64@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B40BA16A41C for ; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 16:10:14 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from olli@lurza.secnetix.de) Received: from lurza.secnetix.de (lurza.secnetix.de [83.120.8.8]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1379C43D48 for ; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 16:10:13 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from olli@lurza.secnetix.de) Received: from lurza.secnetix.de (ilclej@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by lurza.secnetix.de (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id j5EGACaG016265 for ; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 18:10:12 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from oliver.fromme@secnetix.de) Received: (from olli@localhost) by lurza.secnetix.de (8.13.1/8.13.1/Submit) id j5EGAC8A016264; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 18:10:12 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from olli) Date: Tue, 14 Jun 2005 18:10:12 +0200 (CEST) Message-Id: <200506141610.j5EGAC8A016264@lurza.secnetix.de> From: Oliver Fromme To: freebsd-amd64@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <20050613192009.GA4323@dragon.NUXI.org> X-Newsgroups: list.freebsd-amd64 User-Agent: tin/1.5.4-20000523 ("1959") (UNIX) (FreeBSD/4.11-RELEASE (i386)) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Cc: Subject: Re: Athlon64 board with ECC support? X-BeenThere: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd-amd64@FreeBSD.ORG List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the AMD64 platform List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 14 Jun 2005 16:10:14 -0000 David O'Brien wrote: > On Mon, Jun 13, 2005 at 06:16:13PM +0200, Oliver Fromme wrote: > > I'm currently evaluating possibilities to upgrade to a > > 64bit system (preferably AMD). I would like to get a > > single-processor Athlon64 system, no Opteron, because of > > heat, noise and power consumption (and price). > > There is no difference between Athlon64 and Opteron with respect to heat, > noise and power consumption. There is yes a price difference. That's interesting. I've seen several Athlon64 and Opteron systems, and it was my impression that the latter were all noisier and ran "hotter". But my impression could be wrong. It's also interesting to note that there are now plenty of Athlon64-based notebooks, but I haven't seen any Opteron notebook so far, which lead me to believe that the Athlon64 has some power-saving features which the Opteron lacks. Does the Opteron have "PowerNow" or "Cool'n'Quiet"? Anyway, the price argument is still valid. This is for a private PC at home, so would like to keep the costs down as far as possible. I'll also try to re-use my old hardware, such as a plain old PCI graphics card, so I need neither AGP nor PCI-X oder PCI-E slots ... even a simple on-board graphics would be good (saves one slot). I'm not going to run demanding graphics applications on this machine. Also, I don't need a S-ATA controller, because I don't plan to buy new S-ATA drives. On-board (P-) ATA would be perfect. > > PS: I'm reading the list, so there's no need to Cc me. > > Please set "Reply-To:" so one doesn't have to edit headers. I'm sorry. I intended to do that, but I forgot. Best regards Oliver -- Oliver Fromme, secnetix GmbH & Co KG, Oettingenstr. 2, 80538 München Any opinions expressed in this message may be personal to the author and may not necessarily reflect the opinions of secnetix in any way. Perl is worse than Python because people wanted it worse. -- Larry Wall From owner-freebsd-amd64@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jun 14 16:29:06 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-amd64@FreeBSD.ORG Delivered-To: freebsd-amd64@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CC4EF16A41C for ; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 16:29:06 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from killing@multiplay.co.uk) Received: from multiplay.co.uk (www1.multiplay.co.uk [212.42.16.7]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 65F9143D4C for ; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 16:29:05 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from killing@multiplay.co.uk) Received: from vader ([212.135.219.179]) by multiplay.co.uk (multiplay.co.uk [212.42.16.7]) (MDaemon.PRO.v8.0.2.R) with ESMTP id md50001526782.msg for ; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 17:23:24 +0100 Message-ID: <006e01c570fe$0d9882b0$b3db87d4@multiplay.co.uk> From: "Steven Hartland" To: References: <200506141610.j5EGAC8A016264@lurza.secnetix.de> Date: Tue, 14 Jun 2005 17:28:06 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2527 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2527 X-Spam-Processed: multiplay.co.uk, Tue, 14 Jun 2005 17:23:24 +0100 (not processed: message from valid local sender) X-MDRemoteIP: 212.135.219.179 X-Return-Path: killing@multiplay.co.uk X-MDaemon-Deliver-To: freebsd-amd64@FreeBSD.ORG X-MDAV-Processed: multiplay.co.uk, Tue, 14 Jun 2005 17:23:24 +0100 Cc: Subject: Re: Athlon64 board with ECC support? X-BeenThere: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the AMD64 platform List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 14 Jun 2005 16:29:06 -0000 I can recommend GA-7A8DW its a "cheap" dual proc opteron board its not the absolute hottest performer due to the memory layout but it makes for a very nice server / workstation. Works faultlessly with BSD ( not tried the onboard SATA ) basic IDE works fine and has PCI-X as well as AGP 8X so sounds just what u want. Steve ----- Original Message ----- From: "Oliver Fromme" > That's interesting. I've seen several Athlon64 and Opteron > systems, and it was my impression that the latter were all > noisier and ran "hotter". But my impression could be wrong. > > It's also interesting to note that there are now plenty of > Athlon64-based notebooks, but I haven't seen any Opteron > notebook so far, which lead me to believe that the Athlon64 > has some power-saving features which the Opteron lacks. > Does the Opteron have "PowerNow" or "Cool'n'Quiet"? > > Anyway, the price argument is still valid. This is for a > private PC at home, so would like to keep the costs down as > far as possible. I'll also try to re-use my old hardware, > such as a plain old PCI graphics card, so I need neither > AGP nor PCI-X oder PCI-E slots ... even a simple on-board > graphics would be good (saves one slot). I'm not going to > run demanding graphics applications on this machine. Also, > I don't need a S-ATA controller, because I don't plan to > buy new S-ATA drives. On-board (P-) ATA would be perfect. ================================================ This e.mail is private and confidential between Multiplay (UK) Ltd. and the person or entity to whom it is addressed. In the event of misdirection, the recipient is prohibited from using, copying, printing or otherwise disseminating it or any information contained in it. In the event of misdirection, illegible or incomplete transmission please telephone (023) 8024 3137 or return the E.mail to postmaster@multiplay.co.uk. From owner-freebsd-amd64@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jun 14 16:32:16 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-amd64@FreeBSD.ORG Delivered-To: freebsd-amd64@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 35EB816A41F for ; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 16:32:16 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from fcash@ocis.net) Received: from imap.sd73.bc.ca (smtp.sd73.bc.ca [142.24.13.149]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D7C9343D55 for ; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 16:32:15 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from fcash@ocis.net) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by localhost.sd73.bc.ca (Postfix) with ESMTP id E151818CCA3 for ; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 09:32:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: from imap.sd73.bc.ca ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (mailtest.sd73.bc.ca [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 48738-01-28 for ; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 09:32:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: from s9.sbo (s9.sbo [192.168.0.9]) by imap.sd73.bc.ca (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7139918CCA5 for ; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 09:32:12 -0700 (PDT) From: Freddie Cash To: freebsd-amd64@FreeBSD.ORG Date: Tue, 14 Jun 2005 09:32:09 -0700 User-Agent: KMail/1.8 References: <200506141610.j5EGAC8A016264@lurza.secnetix.de> In-Reply-To: <200506141610.j5EGAC8A016264@lurza.secnetix.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200506140932.10548.fcash@ocis.net> X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new using ClamAV at sd73.bc.ca Cc: Subject: Re: Athlon64 board with ECC support? X-BeenThere: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the AMD64 platform List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 14 Jun 2005 16:32:16 -0000 On June 14, 2005 09:10 am, Oliver Fromme wrote: > David O'Brien wrote: > > There is no difference between Athlon64 and Opteron with respect to > > heat, noise and power consumption. There is yes a price difference. > That's interesting. I've seen several Athlon64 and Opteron > systems, and it was my impression that the latter were all > noisier and ran "hotter". But my impression could be wrong. All Athlon64 systems are single-CPU setups. They're also usually in large tower cases with large (quiet) fans, and tonnes of heatsinks. Athlon64 CPUs also support various throttling and power save modes that further reduce the noise / heat. While it is possible to have single-CPU Opteron systems, most are dual-CPU or quad-CPU. Hence, double or quadruple the heat/noise of a single-CPU system. These are also usually server systems with SCSI or SATA drives that are a lot louder than the consumer PATA/SATA drives. Add in that most server are in rackmount cases where you can't put large, quiet fans, and you get some noisy systems. The CPUs themselves are virtually identical for heat/power/noise. It's the rest of the system you have to look at. :) > It's also interesting to note that there are now plenty of > Athlon64-based notebooks, but I haven't seen any Opteron > notebook so far, which lead me to believe that the Athlon64 > has some power-saving features which the Opteron lacks. > Does the Opteron have "PowerNow" or "Cool'n'Quiet"? The latest Opterons do, not sure about older Opterons. But, Opterons are designed for multi-CPU setups. Why would you want to run one in a laptop? -- Freddie Cash fcash@ocis.net From owner-freebsd-amd64@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jun 14 16:53:29 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-amd64@FreeBSD.ORG Delivered-To: freebsd-amd64@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2783616A41C for ; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 16:53:29 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from olli@lurza.secnetix.de) Received: from lurza.secnetix.de (lurza.secnetix.de [83.120.8.8]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7D43543D48 for ; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 16:53:28 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from olli@lurza.secnetix.de) Received: from lurza.secnetix.de (atmzeb@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by lurza.secnetix.de (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id j5EGrQEh018125 for ; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 18:53:26 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from oliver.fromme@secnetix.de) Received: (from olli@localhost) by lurza.secnetix.de (8.13.1/8.13.1/Submit) id j5EGrQMv018124; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 18:53:26 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from olli) Date: Tue, 14 Jun 2005 18:53:26 +0200 (CEST) Message-Id: <200506141653.j5EGrQMv018124@lurza.secnetix.de> From: Oliver Fromme To: freebsd-amd64@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <200506140932.10548.fcash@ocis.net> X-Newsgroups: list.freebsd-amd64 User-Agent: tin/1.5.4-20000523 ("1959") (UNIX) (FreeBSD/4.11-RELEASE (i386)) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Cc: Subject: Re: Athlon64 board with ECC support? X-BeenThere: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd-amd64@FreeBSD.ORG List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the AMD64 platform List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 14 Jun 2005 16:53:29 -0000 Freddie Cash wrote: > On June 14, 2005 09:10 am, Oliver Fromme wrote: > > That's interesting. I've seen several Athlon64 and Opteron > > systems, and it was my impression that the latter were all > > noisier and ran "hotter". But my impression could be wrong. > > All Athlon64 systems are single-CPU setups. They're also usually in large > tower cases with large (quiet) fans, and tonnes of heatsinks. Athlon64 > CPUs also support various throttling and power save modes that further > reduce the noise / heat. > > While it is possible to have single-CPU Opteron systems, most are dual-CPU > or quad-CPU. The systems which I referred to were single Opterons. > > It's also interesting to note that there are now plenty of > > Athlon64-based notebooks, but I haven't seen any Opteron > > notebook so far, which lead me to believe that the Athlon64 > > has some power-saving features which the Opteron lacks. > > Does the Opteron have "PowerNow" or "Cool'n'Quiet"? > > The latest Opterons do, not sure about older Opterons. But, Opterons are > designed for multi-CPU setups. Only the 2xx and 8xx Opterons. The (cheap) 1xx Opterons are for single-CPU systems. _If_ I buy an Opteron system (which I'm currently not sure about), it'll be a single-CPU system. That's already expensive enough, and I don't need that much CPU power, so why waste money on a second processor? > Why would you want to run one in a laptop? I don't want to. I'm just making observations and try to find some sense in them. :-) Best regards Oliver -- Oliver Fromme, secnetix GmbH & Co KG, Oettingenstr. 2, 80538 München Any opinions expressed in this message may be personal to the author and may not necessarily reflect the opinions of secnetix in any way. "If you think C++ is not overly complicated, just what is a protected abstract virtual base pure virtual private destructor, and when was the last time you needed one?" -- Tom Cargil, C++ Journal From owner-freebsd-amd64@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jun 14 16:57:30 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CD6A916A41C for ; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 16:57:30 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from peter@wemm.org) Received: from daintree.corp.yahoo.com (daintree.corp.yahoo.com [216.145.52.172]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B9B3A43D55 for ; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 16:57:30 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from peter@wemm.org) Received: by daintree.corp.yahoo.com (Postfix, from userid 2154) id A17491976F; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 09:57:30 -0700 (PDT) From: Peter Wemm To: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org Date: Tue, 14 Jun 2005 09:57:29 -0700 User-Agent: KMail/1.7.2 References: <200506131616.j5DGGDfr067534@lurza.secnetix.de> <20050613192224.GB4323@dragon.NUXI.org> <6.2.0.14.2.20050613210012.0441d420@gid.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <6.2.0.14.2.20050613210012.0441d420@gid.co.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200506140957.30304.peter@wemm.org> Cc: Subject: Re: Athlon64 board with ECC support? X-BeenThere: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the AMD64 platform List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 14 Jun 2005 16:57:30 -0000 On Monday 13 June 2005 01:01 pm, Bob Bishop wrote: > At 20:22 13/06/2005, David O'Brien wrote: > >[...] As Peter mentioned, finding non-registered ECC DIMM's is the > >challenge. > > http://www.crucial.com Yes, I can't recommend these folks enough either. That's where I got all my ecc non-registered dimms from for my athlon64 socket 754 systems. -- Peter Wemm - peter@wemm.org; peter@FreeBSD.org; peter@yahoo-inc.com "All of this is for nothing if we don't go to the stars" - JMS/B5 From owner-freebsd-amd64@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jun 14 17:26:55 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 190A616A41C for ; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 17:26:55 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from gofda-freebsd-amd64@m.gmane.org) Received: from ciao.gmane.org (main.gmane.org [80.91.229.2]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CA22F43D48 for ; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 17:26:54 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from gofda-freebsd-amd64@m.gmane.org) Received: from root by ciao.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.43) id 1DiF5n-0001Bn-1E for freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 19:20:51 +0200 Received: from h140.c18.b96.tor.eicat.ca ([66.96.18.140]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 19:20:51 +0200 Received: from x by h140.c18.b96.tor.eicat.ca with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 19:20:51 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org From: Tim Middleton Date: Tue, 14 Jun 2005 08:51:21 -0400 Organization: VexTech Lines: 14 Message-ID: References: <20050613045607.97462.qmail@web52301.mail.yahoo.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8Bit X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: h140.c18.b96.tor.eicat.ca Mail-Copies-To: x@vex.net User-Agent: KNode/0.9.0 Sender: news Subject: Re: jdk15 amd64 error: "recompile with -fPIC" ? X-BeenThere: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the AMD64 platform List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 14 Jun 2005 17:26:55 -0000 Tommi Lätti wrote: > java is quite time-consuming process. If you want to use them they're > available at http://www.blosphere.net/~sty/jdk-1.5.0p1_2.tbz and Hey, thanks for this... unfortunately this post comes after I've already installed the irritating linux base/jvm to bootstrap this process... but still, saves the actual java compile time. And provides me with a small happy opportunity to flip Sun the bird... so to speak.. -- Tim Middleton | Vex.Net | There are a thousand hacking at the branches x@veX.net | VexTech.ca | of evil [but who] at the root. --Thoreau (W) From owner-freebsd-amd64@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jun 14 19:14:29 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4EDFE16A41C for ; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 19:14:29 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from obrien@NUXI.com) Received: from dragon.NUXI.org (trang.nuxi.com [66.93.134.19]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 23A7343D1F for ; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 19:14:29 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from obrien@NUXI.com) Received: from dragon.NUXI.org (obrien@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by dragon.NUXI.org (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id j5EJESvk013566; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 12:14:28 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from obrien@dragon.NUXI.org) Received: (from obrien@localhost) by dragon.NUXI.org (8.13.4/8.13.1/Submit) id j5EJEQ7d013565; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 12:14:26 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from obrien) Date: Tue, 14 Jun 2005 12:14:26 -0700 From: "David O'Brien" To: Martin Nilsson Message-ID: <20050614191426.GB13306@dragon.NUXI.org> References: <99389684.20050610003512@molecon.ru> <20050613222428.GA3835@dragon.NUXI.org> <42AEA4DB.7020604@gneto.com> <20050614100144.GA1103@dragon.NUXI.org> <42AECA48.3090101@gneto.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <42AECA48.3090101@gneto.com> X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 6.0-CURRENT Organization: The NUXI BSD Group X-Pgp-Rsa-Fingerprint: B7 4D 3E E9 11 39 5F A3 90 76 5D 69 58 D9 98 7A X-Pgp-Rsa-Keyid: 1024/34F9F9D5 User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.9i Cc: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org Subject: Re: What kind of MotherBoard is better for FreeBsd and linux? X-BeenThere: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: obrien@freebsd.org List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the AMD64 platform List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 14 Jun 2005 19:14:29 -0000 On Tue, Jun 14, 2005 at 02:15:04PM +0200, Martin Nilsson wrote: > David O'Brien wrote: > >>>>MSI K8D Master3 (MS-9161) > >>It is very picky with the memories on the CPU that have 8 slots. MSI > >>only supports 8 dimms on that CPU at 266MHz, 6*dimm at 333MHz. > > > >It depends on the revision of the Opteron used. Rev.E CPU's should > >handle 8*DDR333 fine. > > Aha, nice to know I probably had rev.CG (2*246) as this was a couple of > months ago. Are rev. E CPU:s out yet in models slower than the pricy 252? The slowest rev.E I know of is the 248. I don't know what the speed of the rev.E 30W part is - probably slower. -- -- David (obrien@FreeBSD.org) From owner-freebsd-amd64@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jun 14 20:07:47 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-amd64@FreeBSD.ORG Delivered-To: freebsd-amd64@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7F77516A41C for ; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 20:07:47 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from obrien@NUXI.com) Received: from dragon.NUXI.org (trang.nuxi.com [66.93.134.19]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3BB4D43D49 for ; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 20:07:47 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from obrien@NUXI.com) Received: from dragon.NUXI.org (obrien@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by dragon.NUXI.org (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id j5EK7kHP015088 for ; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 13:07:46 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from obrien@dragon.NUXI.org) Received: (from obrien@localhost) by dragon.NUXI.org (8.13.4/8.13.1/Submit) id j5EK7kul015087 for freebsd-amd64@FreeBSD.ORG; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 13:07:46 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from obrien) Date: Tue, 14 Jun 2005 13:07:46 -0700 From: "David O'Brien" To: freebsd-amd64@FreeBSD.ORG Message-ID: <20050614200746.GA14998@dragon.NUXI.org> References: <20050613192009.GA4323@dragon.NUXI.org> <200506141610.j5EGAC8A016264@lurza.secnetix.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <200506141610.j5EGAC8A016264@lurza.secnetix.de> X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 6.0-CURRENT Organization: The NUXI BSD Group X-Pgp-Rsa-Fingerprint: B7 4D 3E E9 11 39 5F A3 90 76 5D 69 58 D9 98 7A X-Pgp-Rsa-Keyid: 1024/34F9F9D5 User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.9i Cc: Subject: Re: Athlon64 board with ECC support? X-BeenThere: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd-amd64@FreeBSD.ORG List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the AMD64 platform List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 14 Jun 2005 20:07:47 -0000 On Tue, Jun 14, 2005 at 06:10:12PM +0200, Oliver Fromme wrote: > David O'Brien wrote: > > On Mon, Jun 13, 2005 at 06:16:13PM +0200, Oliver Fromme wrote: > > > I'm currently evaluating possibilities to upgrade to a > > > 64bit system (preferably AMD). I would like to get a > > > single-processor Athlon64 system, no Opteron, because of > > > heat, noise and power consumption (and price). > > > > There is no difference between Athlon64 and Opteron with respect to heat, > > noise and power consumption. There is yes a price difference. > > That's interesting. I've seen several Athlon64 and Opteron > systems, and it was my impression that the latter were all > noisier and ran "hotter". But my impression could be wrong. The thermal requirements of standard Opteron and Athlon64 are the same. There are low-power Opterons (30W & 55W), which aren't available in the Athlon64 line. > It's also interesting to note that there are now plenty of > Athlon64-based notebooks, but I haven't seen any Opteron > notebook so far, WHY would you want an Opteron notebook? You certainly don't have the room in a notebook to add all kind of I/O devices to utilize the 3 HyperTransport links (vs. the 1 of Athlon64). I don't know of anyone that wants to track down registered(buffered) SODIMM's either. I don't think most notebook design houses could do a proper 2P notebook design. Thus what is the advantage of Opteron over Athlon64 in the notebook arena? > which lead me to believe that the Athlon64 > has some power-saving features which the Opteron lacks. > Does the Opteron have "PowerNow" or "Cool'n'Quiet"? Yes, Opteron definitely has "PowerNow!". You need a rev.CG processor and BIOS that supports it. -- -- David (obrien@FreeBSD.org) From owner-freebsd-amd64@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jun 14 20:13:46 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-amd64@www.freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-amd64@www.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8061F16A41C for ; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 20:13:46 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from gallatin@cs.duke.edu) Received: from duke.cs.duke.edu (duke.cs.duke.edu [152.3.140.1]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3E73B43D48 for ; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 20:13:46 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from gallatin@cs.duke.edu) Received: from grasshopper.cs.duke.edu (grasshopper.cs.duke.edu [152.3.145.30]) by duke.cs.duke.edu (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id j5EKDjkO003742 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 16:13:45 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from gallatin@localhost) by grasshopper.cs.duke.edu (8.12.9p2/8.12.9/Submit) id j5EKDeGV043243; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 16:13:40 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from gallatin) From: Andrew Gallatin MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <17071.14964.206344.53204@grasshopper.cs.duke.edu> Date: Tue, 14 Jun 2005 16:13:40 -0400 (EDT) To: freebsd-amd64@www.freebsd.org X-Mailer: VM 6.75 under 21.1 (patch 12) "Channel Islands" XEmacs Lucid Cc: Subject: nforce4 crashes at boot with 6.0-CURRENT-SNAP004-amd64-disc1.iso X-BeenThere: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the AMD64 platform List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 14 Jun 2005 20:13:46 -0000 This is transcribed by hand from a screen across the room acd0: DVDROM ata4: CONNECT requested ata4: DISCONNECT requested ata5: CONNECT requested ata5: DISCONNECT requested ata4: CONNECTED ata4: CONNECT requested ata4: DISCONNECT requested ata5: CONNECT requested ata5: DISCONNECT requested ata4: CONNECT requested ata4: DISCONNECT requested ata5: CONNECT requested ata5: DISCONNECT requested fault virt. address = 0x50 instr ptr = 0x0:0xffffffff803c31e2 <...> stack: device_attach+0x22 bus_generic_attach+0x18 ata_identify+0xe6 ata_sata_phy_event+0xa2 taskqueue_run fork_exit fork_trampoline Amusingly, it finds both the sk0 and nve0 devices on this board. Linux lists the hardware as: 00:00.0 Class 0580: 10de:005e (rev a3) 00:01.0 Class 0601: 10de:0050 (rev a3) 00:01.1 Class 0c05: 10de:0052 (rev a2) 00:02.0 Class 0c03: 10de:005a (rev a2) 00:02.1 Class 0c03: 10de:005b (rev a3) 00:06.0 Class 0101: 10de:0053 (rev a2) 00:07.0 Class 0101: 10de:0054 (rev a3) 00:08.0 Class 0101: 10de:0055 (rev a3) 00:09.0 Class 0604: 10de:005c (rev a2) 00:0a.0 Class 0200: 10de:0057 (rev a3) 00:0b.0 Class 0604: 10de:005d (rev a3) 00:0c.0 Class 0604: 10de:005d (rev a3) 00:0d.0 Class 0604: 10de:005d (rev a3) 00:0e.0 Class 0604: 10de:005d (rev a3) 01:06.0 Class 0300: 1002:5159 01:09.0 Class 0c00: 1106:3044 (rev 80) 01:0a.0 Class 0200: 11ab:4320 (rev 13) The IDE controllers are: 00:06.0 IDE interface: nVidia Corporation CK804 IDE (rev a2) 00:07.0 IDE interface: nVidia Corporation CK804 Serial ATA Controller (rev a3) 00:08.0 IDE interface: nVidia Corporation CK804 Serial ATA Controller (rev a3) 00:09.0 PCI bridge: nVidia Corporation CK804 PCI Bridge (rev a2) I know Soren is working on this. Has there been any progress since June2, which was the date of the 6.0-CURRENT-SNAP004-amd64-disc1.iso snap? Drew From owner-freebsd-amd64@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jun 14 20:19:57 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-amd64@FreeBSD.ORG Delivered-To: freebsd-amd64@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C4F9116A453 for ; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 20:19:57 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from lars.tunkrans@bredband.net) Received: from mxfep02.bredband.com (mxfep02.bredband.com [195.54.107.73]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0D1E843D1F for ; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 20:19:56 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from lars.tunkrans@bredband.net) Received: from [192.168.245.231] ([213.112.167.64] [213.112.167.64]) by mxfep02.bredband.com with ESMTP id <20050614201955.VCBD15919.mxfep02.bredband.com@[192.168.245.231]> for ; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 22:19:55 +0200 Message-ID: <42AF3A68.502@bredband.net> Date: Tue, 14 Jun 2005 22:13:28 +0200 From: Lars Tunkrans Organization: None User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; SunOS sun4u; en-US; rv:1.7.3) Gecko/20041024 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-amd64@FreeBSD.ORG References: <20050613192009.GA4323@dragon.NUXI.org> <200506141610.j5EGAC8A016264@lurza.secnetix.de> <20050614200746.GA14998@dragon.NUXI.org> In-Reply-To: <20050614200746.GA14998@dragon.NUXI.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Subject: Re: Athlon64 board with ECC support? X-BeenThere: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the AMD64 platform List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 14 Jun 2005 20:19:57 -0000 David O'Brien wrote: > > The thermal requirements of standard Opteron and Athlon64 are the same. > There are low-power Opterons (30W & 55W), which aren't available in the > Athlon64 line. > There are low-power Athlon64's as well - These are targeted at the notebook market , ACER Ferrari 3400 notebook has a 35 W Athlon 64 3000+ 2GHz Cpu. //Lars From owner-freebsd-amd64@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jun 15 11:38:31 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-amd64@www.freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-amd64@www.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E750D16A41C for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 11:38:30 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ohartman@mail.uni-mainz.de) Received: from mailgate2.zdv.Uni-Mainz.DE (mailgate2.zdv.Uni-Mainz.DE [134.93.178.130]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 505A543D5D for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 11:38:30 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ohartman@mail.uni-mainz.de) Received: from [134.93.180.218] (edda.Physik.Uni-Mainz.DE [134.93.180.218]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mailgate2.zdv.Uni-Mainz.DE (Postfix) with ESMTP id 22C673000D90; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 13:38:29 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <42B0133D.5090308@mail.uni-mainz.de> Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2005 13:38:37 +0200 From: "O. Hartmann" Organization: Institut =?ISO-8859-1?Q?f=FCr_Geophysik?= User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.2 (X11/20050424) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Andrew Gallatin References: <17071.14964.206344.53204@grasshopper.cs.duke.edu> In-Reply-To: <17071.14964.206344.53204@grasshopper.cs.duke.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at uni-mainz.de Cc: freebsd-amd64@www.freebsd.org Subject: Re: nforce4 crashes at boot with 6.0-CURRENT-SNAP004-amd64-disc1.iso X-BeenThere: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the AMD64 platform List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2005 11:38:31 -0000 Hello. I got the same fault on my A8N-SLI Deluxe with two at nForce4 chipset attached SATA haddrives. I used the 6.0-CURRENT-SNAP004/AMD64 as mentioned. Andrew Gallatin wrote: > > This is transcribed by hand from a screen across the room > > acd0: DVDROM > ata4: CONNECT requested > ata4: DISCONNECT requested > ata5: CONNECT requested > ata5: DISCONNECT requested > ata4: CONNECTED > ata4: CONNECT requested > ata4: DISCONNECT requested > ata5: CONNECT requested > ata5: DISCONNECT requested > ata4: CONNECT requested > ata4: DISCONNECT requested > ata5: CONNECT requested > ata5: DISCONNECT requested > > fault virt. address = 0x50 > instr ptr = 0x0:0xffffffff803c31e2 > <...> > > stack: > device_attach+0x22 > bus_generic_attach+0x18 > ata_identify+0xe6 > ata_sata_phy_event+0xa2 > taskqueue_run > fork_exit > fork_trampoline > > > Amusingly, it finds both the sk0 and nve0 devices on this board. > > Linux lists the hardware as: > 00:00.0 Class 0580: 10de:005e (rev a3) > 00:01.0 Class 0601: 10de:0050 (rev a3) > 00:01.1 Class 0c05: 10de:0052 (rev a2) > 00:02.0 Class 0c03: 10de:005a (rev a2) > 00:02.1 Class 0c03: 10de:005b (rev a3) > 00:06.0 Class 0101: 10de:0053 (rev a2) > 00:07.0 Class 0101: 10de:0054 (rev a3) > 00:08.0 Class 0101: 10de:0055 (rev a3) > 00:09.0 Class 0604: 10de:005c (rev a2) > 00:0a.0 Class 0200: 10de:0057 (rev a3) > 00:0b.0 Class 0604: 10de:005d (rev a3) > 00:0c.0 Class 0604: 10de:005d (rev a3) > 00:0d.0 Class 0604: 10de:005d (rev a3) > 00:0e.0 Class 0604: 10de:005d (rev a3) > 01:06.0 Class 0300: 1002:5159 > 01:09.0 Class 0c00: 1106:3044 (rev 80) > 01:0a.0 Class 0200: 11ab:4320 (rev 13) > > The IDE controllers are: > > 00:06.0 IDE interface: nVidia Corporation CK804 IDE (rev a2) > 00:07.0 IDE interface: nVidia Corporation CK804 Serial ATA Controller (rev a3) > 00:08.0 IDE interface: nVidia Corporation CK804 Serial ATA Controller (rev a3) > 00:09.0 PCI bridge: nVidia Corporation CK804 PCI Bridge (rev a2) > > > I know Soren is working on this. Has there been any progress since > June2, which was the date of the 6.0-CURRENT-SNAP004-amd64-disc1.iso snap? > > Drew > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-amd64 > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-amd64-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-amd64@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jun 15 17:23:42 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-amd64@FreeBSD.ORG Delivered-To: freebsd-amd64@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DDEB416A41C for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 17:23:42 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from obrien@NUXI.com) Received: from dragon.NUXI.org (trang.nuxi.com [66.93.134.19]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BB45F43D1F for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 17:23:42 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from obrien@NUXI.com) Received: from dragon.NUXI.org (obrien@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by dragon.NUXI.org (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id j5FHNdMU002127; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 10:23:39 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from obrien@dragon.NUXI.org) Received: (from obrien@localhost) by dragon.NUXI.org (8.13.4/8.13.1/Submit) id j5FHNcus002126; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 10:23:38 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from obrien) Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2005 10:23:38 -0700 From: "David O'Brien" To: Lars Tunkrans Message-ID: <20050615172338.GB1675@dragon.NUXI.org> References: <20050613192009.GA4323@dragon.NUXI.org> <200506141610.j5EGAC8A016264@lurza.secnetix.de> <20050614200746.GA14998@dragon.NUXI.org> <42AF3A68.502@bredband.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <42AF3A68.502@bredband.net> X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 6.0-CURRENT Organization: The NUXI BSD Group X-Pgp-Rsa-Fingerprint: B7 4D 3E E9 11 39 5F A3 90 76 5D 69 58 D9 98 7A X-Pgp-Rsa-Keyid: 1024/34F9F9D5 User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.9i Cc: freebsd-amd64@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Athlon64 board with ECC support? X-BeenThere: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd-amd64@FreeBSD.ORG List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the AMD64 platform List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2005 17:23:43 -0000 On Tue, Jun 14, 2005 at 10:13:28PM +0200, Lars Tunkrans wrote: > David O'Brien wrote: > >The thermal requirements of standard Opteron and Athlon64 are the same. > >There are low-power Opterons (30W & 55W), which aren't available in the > >Athlon64 line. > > There are low-power Athlon64's as well - These are targeted at the > notebook > market , ACER Ferrari 3400 notebook has a 35 W Athlon 64 3000+ 2GHz > Cpu. These aren't available in the channel. And AMD's laptop CPU is now named "Turion". :-) -- -- David (obrien@FreeBSD.org) From owner-freebsd-amd64@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jun 15 17:26:32 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 45B5316A41C for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 17:26:32 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from obrien@NUXI.com) Received: from dragon.NUXI.org (trang.nuxi.com [66.93.134.19]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 202E643D48 for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 17:26:32 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from obrien@NUXI.com) Received: from dragon.NUXI.org (obrien@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by dragon.NUXI.org (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id j5FHQVYY002219; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 10:26:31 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from obrien@dragon.NUXI.org) Received: (from obrien@localhost) by dragon.NUXI.org (8.13.4/8.13.1/Submit) id j5FHQVxV002218; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 10:26:31 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from obrien) Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2005 10:26:30 -0700 From: "David O'Brien" To: Tarasov Alexey Message-ID: <20050615172630.GD1675@dragon.NUXI.org> References: <42A975E0.6010400@wincmd.ru> <20050613192947.GE4323@dragon.NUXI.org> <42AEB207.7020907@wincmd.ru> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <42AEB207.7020907@wincmd.ru> X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 6.0-CURRENT Organization: The NUXI BSD Group X-Pgp-Rsa-Fingerprint: B7 4D 3E E9 11 39 5F A3 90 76 5D 69 58 D9 98 7A X-Pgp-Rsa-Keyid: 1024/34F9F9D5 User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.9i Cc: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Couldn't make kernel on FreeBSD 6.0-CURRENT under amd64 X-BeenThere: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the AMD64 platform List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2005 17:26:32 -0000 On Tue, Jun 14, 2005 at 02:31:35PM +0400, Tarasov Alexey wrote: > >[11:22:58]root@computer.lexasoft.ru: > >/home/lexa>uname -a > >FreeBSD computer.lexasoft.ru 6.0-CURRENT FreeBSD 6.0-CURRENT #0: Thu > >Jun 9 14:31:32 MSD 2005 > >root@computer.lexasoft.ru:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC i386 You are building on a 32-bit OS! > >[11:25:12]root@computer.lexasoft.ru: > >/usr/src>make buildworld > No errors... > >[11:25:12]root@computer.lexasoft.ru: > >/usr/src>make buildkernel TARGET_ARCH=amd64 This isn't the correct way to do this. You need "TARGET_ARCH=amd64" in *all* stages of the process. -- -- David (obrien@FreeBSD.org) From owner-freebsd-amd64@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jun 16 02:16:34 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: amd64@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-amd64@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 91C1B16A41C for ; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 02:16:34 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from sean@mcneil.com) Received: from mail.mcneil.com (mcneil.com [24.199.45.54]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7681643D1F for ; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 02:16:34 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from sean@mcneil.com) Received: from localhost (localhost.mcneil.com [127.0.0.1]) by mail.mcneil.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1F1E1F1AB6 for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 19:16:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail.mcneil.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (server.mcneil.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 00725-02 for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 19:16:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mcneil.com (mcneil.com [24.199.45.54]) by mail.mcneil.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 062E8F1A1D for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 19:16:31 -0700 (PDT) From: Sean McNeil To: amd64@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain Organization: Sean McNeil Consulting, Inc Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2005 19:16:31 -0700 Message-Id: <1118888191.67168.5.camel@server.mcneil.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.2.3 FreeBSD GNOME Team Port Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at mcneil.com Cc: Subject: easy to crash -STABLE with debugger X-BeenThere: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: sean@mcneil.com List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the AMD64 platform List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 16 Jun 2005 02:16:34 -0000 This should not be possible, but I can crash my system with no effort. The only thing I get logged is: Jun 15 16:02:48 server kernel: Fatal double fault All I have to do is run a program that seg faults or has some other problem. The most recent one was abiword. I did the following: gdb `which abiword` (gdb) r then I opened a file and did a "save as...", which causes a seg fault. Then I did a (gdb) c and boom! reboot. Sean From owner-freebsd-amd64@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jun 16 07:36:10 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4F99E16A41C for ; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 07:36:10 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ru@ip.net.ua) Received: from tigra.ip.net.ua (tigra.ip.net.ua [82.193.96.10]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AE5E843D4C for ; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 07:36:09 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ru@ip.net.ua) Received: from localhost (rocky.ip.net.ua [82.193.96.2]) by tigra.ip.net.ua (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5G7a31O050277; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 10:36:03 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from ru@ip.net.ua) Received: from tigra.ip.net.ua ([82.193.96.10]) by localhost (rocky.ipnet [82.193.96.2]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 23496-19; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 10:36:02 +0300 (EEST) Received: from heffalump.ip.net.ua (heffalump.ip.net.ua [82.193.96.213]) by tigra.ip.net.ua (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5G7a2M7050274 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Thu, 16 Jun 2005 10:36:02 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from ru@ip.net.ua) Received: (from ru@localhost) by heffalump.ip.net.ua (8.13.3/8.13.3) id j5G7aWmf071283; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 10:36:32 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from ru) Date: Thu, 16 Jun 2005 10:36:32 +0300 From: Ruslan Ermilov To: Oliver Lehmann Message-ID: <20050616073632.GE23579@ip.net.ua> References: <20050614050952.GB655@faust.net> <20050614073533.6ebcf607.lehmann@ans-netz.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="10jrOL3x2xqLmOsH" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20050614073533.6ebcf607.lehmann@ans-netz.de> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.9i X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at ip.net.ua Cc: Zoran Kolic , freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org Subject: Re: temperature measurement X-BeenThere: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the AMD64 platform List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 16 Jun 2005 07:36:10 -0000 --10jrOL3x2xqLmOsH Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Tue, Jun 14, 2005 at 07:35:33AM +0200, Oliver Lehmann wrote: > Zoran Kolic wrote: >=20 > > to approach sensors on nforce3 250 > > motherboard >=20 > I don't now if it works with your chipset, but you could ports/sysutils/ > xmbmon a try. >=20 No, it doesn't work (SMBus on this motherboard isn't supported by FreeBSD): none0@pci0:1:1: class=3D0x0c0500 card=3D0x80c51043 chip=3D0x00d410de rev=3D= 0xa4 hdr=3D0x00 vendor =3D 'NVIDIA Corporation' device =3D 'nForce MCP3? SMBus Controller' class =3D serial bus subclass =3D SMBus I've given up trying to find this motherboard's specifications. Cheers, --=20 Ruslan Ermilov ru@FreeBSD.org FreeBSD committer --10jrOL3x2xqLmOsH Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.1 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFCsSwAqRfpzJluFF4RAqkCAJ9dPua0cw5+MQ6L5RfgoT2i/cCioQCfTHOS e6XKJsAjiIUih5+QBF/42EI= =C2+R -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --10jrOL3x2xqLmOsH-- From owner-freebsd-amd64@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jun 16 13:44:03 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0128B16A41C for ; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 13:44:03 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from etoll@vipstructures.com) Received: from rodan.vipstructures.com (rodan.vipstructures.com [66.195.71.71]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C9CD243D4C for ; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 13:44:02 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from etoll@vipstructures.com) Received: from localhost (localhost.vipstructures.com [127.0.0.1]) by rodan.vipstructures.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id EA60D1EE835 for ; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 09:44:01 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mothra.vipstructures.com (mothra.vipstructures.com [192.168.1.3]) by rodan.vipstructures.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id BDE311EE824 for ; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 09:44:01 -0400 (EDT) content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.0.6487.1 Date: Thu, 16 Jun 2005 09:44:38 -0400 Message-ID: <9BC86C67C3AF7646B9C5382020457A944E4D6F@VIP10-WIN2K> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: freebsd-gfx-bugs@nvidia.com Thread-Index: AcVyeYlMkHSKj+X2QuyEsfPl75vo2A== From: "Toll, Eric" To: "FreeBSD amd64 List" Cc: freebsd-gfx-bugs@nvidia.com Subject: freebsd-gfx-bugs@nvidia.com X-BeenThere: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the AMD64 platform List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 16 Jun 2005 13:44:03 -0000 freebsd-gfx-bugs@nvidia.com is the correct email address to request an AMD64 FreeBSD AMD64 accelerated driver. I am using the ATI Radeon 9200 card with DRI for OpenGL. (Thanks Roland!) It's O..K.., but I'd rather have a Nvidia card in there. Perhaps all those with Nforce chipset issues could also request support for FreeBSD AMD64 as well. Again that email address is: freebsd-gfx-bugs@nvidia.com for those would like Nvidia to know that we'd like a FreeBSD AMD64 hardware accelerated drivers for Nvidia cards. I see they have a AMD64 drivers for linux, has anyone hacked this to work with FreeBSD? TIA Eric From owner-freebsd-amd64@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jun 16 16:42:37 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: amd64@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-amd64@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8FBEE16A41C for ; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 16:42:37 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from kris@obsecurity.org) Received: from obsecurity.dyndns.org (CPE0050040655c8-CM00111ae02aac.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com [69.194.102.232]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4B26943D1F for ; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 16:42:37 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from kris@obsecurity.org) Received: by obsecurity.dyndns.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 6FDD85142C; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 12:42:36 -0400 (EDT) Date: Thu, 16 Jun 2005 12:42:36 -0400 From: Kris Kennaway To: Sean McNeil Message-ID: <20050616164236.GA60548@xor.obsecurity.org> References: <1118888191.67168.5.camel@server.mcneil.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="RnlQjJ0d97Da+TV1" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <1118888191.67168.5.camel@server.mcneil.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Cc: amd64@freebsd.org Subject: Re: easy to crash -STABLE with debugger X-BeenThere: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the AMD64 platform List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 16 Jun 2005 16:42:37 -0000 --RnlQjJ0d97Da+TV1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Wed, Jun 15, 2005 at 07:16:31PM -0700, Sean McNeil wrote: > This should not be possible, but I can crash my system with no effort. > The only thing I get logged is: >=20 > Jun 15 16:02:48 server kernel: Fatal double fault >=20 > All I have to do is run a program that seg faults or has some other > problem. The most recent one was abiword. I did the following: >=20 > gdb `which abiword` > (gdb) r >=20 > then I opened a file and did a "save as...", which causes a seg fault. > Then I did a >=20 > (gdb) c >=20 > and boom! reboot. Please set up DDB as described in the developers handbook and obtain a debugging traceback. Kris --RnlQjJ0d97Da+TV1 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.1 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFCsav8Wry0BWjoQKURAvB4AKDYDe9au4//sLErAG1epGifb8JKZwCgxMZ4 4oxK38/9DcL4G+O/M3O5nRI= =l1VK -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --RnlQjJ0d97Da+TV1-- From owner-freebsd-amd64@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jun 16 17:21:23 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-amd64@hub.freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-amd64@hub.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 39FAB16A41F; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 17:21:23 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jhb@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0938743D4C; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 17:21:23 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jhb@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (jhb@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.13.3/8.13.3) with ESMTP id j5GHLMW4003791; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 17:21:22 GMT (envelope-from jhb@freefall.freebsd.org) Received: (from jhb@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.13.3/8.13.1/Submit) id j5GHLM99003787; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 17:21:22 GMT (envelope-from jhb) Date: Thu, 16 Jun 2005 17:21:22 GMT From: John Baldwin Message-Id: <200506161721.j5GHLM99003787@freefall.freebsd.org> To: morgothdbma@o2.pl, jhb@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-amd64@FreeBSD.org Cc: Subject: Re: amd64/80885: OpenGL hardware accel dont work on FreeBSD 5.4 amd64 for Radeon 9200 X-BeenThere: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the AMD64 platform List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 16 Jun 2005 17:21:23 -0000 Synopsis: OpenGL hardware accel dont work on FreeBSD 5.4 amd64 for Radeon 9200 State-Changed-From-To: open->closed State-Changed-By: jhb State-Changed-When: Thu Jun 16 17:20:21 GMT 2005 State-Changed-Why: Several folks have reported success getting DRI/DRM to work on 92XX cards and this PR hasn't had any followup from the submitter and includes no details about what exactly is broken or doesn't work. http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=80885 From owner-freebsd-amd64@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jun 16 17:22:41 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-amd64@hub.freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-amd64@hub.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B5C9716A41C; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 17:22:41 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jhb@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CF4F843D5C; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 17:22:40 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jhb@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (jhb@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.13.3/8.13.3) with ESMTP id j5GHMeI4003861; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 17:22:40 GMT (envelope-from jhb@freefall.freebsd.org) Received: (from jhb@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.13.3/8.13.1/Submit) id j5GHMdav003857; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 17:22:39 GMT (envelope-from jhb) Date: Thu, 16 Jun 2005 17:22:39 GMT From: John Baldwin Message-Id: <200506161722.j5GHMdav003857@freefall.freebsd.org> To: email-published-in-newsgroups-are-you-mad?@nowhere.com, jhb@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-amd64@FreeBSD.org Cc: Subject: Re: amd64/81823: ports/astro/boinc-setiathome never compiled on amd64 & -DWITHOUT_X11 X-BeenThere: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the AMD64 platform List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 16 Jun 2005 17:22:41 -0000 Synopsis: ports/astro/boinc-setiathome never compiled on amd64 & -DWITHOUT_X11 State-Changed-From-To: open->closed State-Changed-By: jhb State-Changed-When: Thu Jun 16 17:22:17 GMT 2005 State-Changed-Why: Problem is reported to be fixed and original submitter never replied to followup questions. http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=81823 From owner-freebsd-amd64@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jun 16 17:24:04 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EDA0E16A41C for ; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 17:24:04 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jhb@FreeBSD.org) Received: from mv.twc.weather.com (mv.twc.weather.com [65.212.71.225]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AD66D43D5C for ; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 17:24:04 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jhb@FreeBSD.org) Received: from [10.50.41.231] (Not Verified[216.133.140.1]) by mv.twc.weather.com with NetIQ MailMarshal (v6, 0, 3, 8) id ; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 13:37:29 -0400 From: John Baldwin To: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org Date: Thu, 16 Jun 2005 13:24:39 -0400 User-Agent: KMail/1.8 References: <9BC86C67C3AF7646B9C5382020457A944E4D6F@VIP10-WIN2K> In-Reply-To: <9BC86C67C3AF7646B9C5382020457A944E4D6F@VIP10-WIN2K> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200506161324.40052.jhb@FreeBSD.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: "Toll, Eric" Subject: Re: freebsd-gfx-bugs@nvidia.com X-BeenThere: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the AMD64 platform List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 16 Jun 2005 17:24:05 -0000 On Thursday 16 June 2005 09:44 am, Toll, Eric wrote: > freebsd-gfx-bugs@nvidia.com is the correct email address to > request an AMD64 FreeBSD AMD64 accelerated driver. > > I am using the ATI Radeon 9200 card with DRI for OpenGL. > (Thanks Roland!) It's O..K.., but I'd rather have a Nvidia > card in there. Perhaps all those with Nforce chipset issues > could also request support for FreeBSD AMD64 as well. > > Again that email address is: freebsd-gfx-bugs@nvidia.com for > those would like Nvidia to know that we'd like a FreeBSD > AMD64 hardware accelerated drivers for Nvidia cards. > > I see they have a AMD64 drivers for linux, has anyone hacked > this to work with FreeBSD? Nvidia is waiting for certain changes to be made to the kernel on our end before they can release an amd64 driver for FreeBSD. -- John Baldwin <>< http://www.FreeBSD.org/~jhb/ "Power Users Use the Power to Serve" = http://www.FreeBSD.org From owner-freebsd-amd64@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jun 16 17:54:18 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8EDE916A41C for ; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 17:54:18 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from rsmith@xs4all.nl) Received: from smtp-vbr3.xs4all.nl (smtp-vbr3.xs4all.nl [194.109.24.23]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 24A6943D53 for ; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 17:54:17 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from rsmith@xs4all.nl) Received: from slackbox.xs4all.nl (slackbox.xs4all.nl [213.84.242.160]) by smtp-vbr3.xs4all.nl (8.13.3/8.13.3) with ESMTP id j5GHsG1g010026; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 19:54:16 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from rsmith@xs4all.nl) Received: by slackbox.xs4all.nl (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 1379B656A; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 19:54:16 +0200 (CEST) Date: Thu, 16 Jun 2005 19:54:16 +0200 From: Roland Smith To: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20050616175416.GD44491@slackbox.xs4all.nl> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org, "Toll, Eric" References: <9BC86C67C3AF7646B9C5382020457A944E4D6F@VIP10-WIN2K> <200506161324.40052.jhb@FreeBSD.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="rz+pwK2yUstbofK6" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <200506161324.40052.jhb@FreeBSD.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i X-GPG-Fingerprint: 1A2B 477F 9970 BA3C 2914 B7CE 1277 EFB0 C321 A725 X-GPG-Key: http://www.xs4all.nl/~rsmith/pubkey.txt X-GPG-Notice: If this message is not signed, don't assume I sent it! X-Virus-Scanned: by XS4ALL Virus Scanner Cc: "Toll, Eric" Subject: Re: freebsd-gfx-bugs@nvidia.com X-BeenThere: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the AMD64 platform List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 16 Jun 2005 17:54:18 -0000 --rz+pwK2yUstbofK6 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Thu, Jun 16, 2005 at 01:24:39PM -0400, John Baldwin wrote: > On Thursday 16 June 2005 09:44 am, Toll, Eric wrote: > > freebsd-gfx-bugs@nvidia.com is the correct email address to > > request an AMD64 FreeBSD AMD64 accelerated driver. > > > > I am using the ATI Radeon 9200 card with DRI for OpenGL. > > (Thanks Roland!) It's O..K.., but I'd rather have a Nvidia > > card in there. Perhaps all those with Nforce chipset issues > > could also request support for FreeBSD AMD64 as well. Be carefull what you wish for. The Radeon works on amd64 because the driver is open source and a couple of us were able to dive into the code and fix it (it had a small 32-bit-ness issue). If your binary-only Nvidia driver breaks you have to wait for nvidia to release a fix. Encouraging binary drivers is like building a skyscraper on quicksand. IMHO it's better to do business with people who are willing to release documentation. Roland --=20 R.F.Smith (http://www.xs4all.nl/~rsmith/) Please send e-mail as plain text. public key: http://www.xs4all.nl/~rsmith/pubkey.txt --rz+pwK2yUstbofK6 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.1 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFCsbzIEnfvsMMhpyURAmp1AJ4mKd+sREEI3UnapMgRxpIe6LDQIgCfecBA 3PYSaxGngZQoCzsJw088bx8= =UP2O -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --rz+pwK2yUstbofK6-- From owner-freebsd-amd64@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jun 16 18:09:52 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F139D16A41C; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 18:09:52 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from etoll@vipstructures.com) Received: from rodan.vipstructures.com (rodan.vipstructures.com [66.195.71.71]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BA5CB43D48; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 18:09:52 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from etoll@vipstructures.com) Received: from localhost (localhost.vipstructures.com [127.0.0.1]) by rodan.vipstructures.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D56CB1EE83F; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 14:09:51 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mothra.vipstructures.com (mothra.vipstructures.com [192.168.1.3]) by rodan.vipstructures.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A8A691EE824; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 14:09:51 -0400 (EDT) content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.0.6487.1 Date: Thu, 16 Jun 2005 14:10:28 -0400 Message-ID: <9BC86C67C3AF7646B9C5382020457A9456EA70@VIP10-WIN2K> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: freebsd-gfx-bugs@nvidia.com Thread-Index: AcVymE0JocmpFcqYQsO69UMlnjcARAABam7g From: "Toll, Eric" To: "John Baldwin" , Cc: Subject: RE: freebsd-gfx-bugs@nvidia.com X-BeenThere: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the AMD64 platform List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 16 Jun 2005 18:09:53 -0000 >=20 > On Thursday 16 June 2005 09:44 am, Toll, Eric wrote: > > freebsd-gfx-bugs@nvidia.com is the correct email address to=20 > request an=20 > > AMD64 FreeBSD AMD64 accelerated driver. > > > > I am using the ATI Radeon 9200 card with DRI for OpenGL. > > (Thanks Roland!) It's O..K.., but I'd rather have a Nvidia card in=20 > > there. Perhaps all those with Nforce chipset issues could also=20 > > request support for FreeBSD AMD64 as well. > > > > Again that email address is: freebsd-gfx-bugs@nvidia.com for those=20 > > would like Nvidia to know that we'd like a FreeBSD > > AMD64 hardware accelerated drivers for Nvidia cards. > > > Nvidia is waiting for certain changes to be made to the=20 > kernel on our end before they can release an amd64 driver for FreeBSD. >=20 > -- > John Baldwin =20 Ahh-Haaa... I guess I'll be patient and wait. Perhaps if you posted some work items to the list, some memebers may be able to provide assistance/help/authorship? Thanks for your reply. Eric From owner-freebsd-amd64@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jun 17 07:19:51 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A5AE916A41C for ; Fri, 17 Jun 2005 07:19:51 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from obrien@NUXI.com) Received: from dragon.NUXI.org (trang.nuxi.com [66.93.134.19]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 80C7843D1F for ; Fri, 17 Jun 2005 07:19:51 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from obrien@NUXI.com) Received: from dragon.NUXI.org (obrien@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by dragon.NUXI.org (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id j5H7Jo7B001599; Fri, 17 Jun 2005 00:19:51 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from obrien@dragon.NUXI.org) Received: (from obrien@localhost) by dragon.NUXI.org (8.13.4/8.13.1/Submit) id j5H7Jo52001598; Fri, 17 Jun 2005 00:19:50 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from obrien) Date: Fri, 17 Jun 2005 00:19:50 -0700 From: "David O'Brien" To: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org, "Toll, Eric" Message-ID: <20050617071950.GA1485@dragon.NUXI.org> References: <9BC86C67C3AF7646B9C5382020457A944E4D6F@VIP10-WIN2K> <200506161324.40052.jhb@FreeBSD.org> <20050616175416.GD44491@slackbox.xs4all.nl> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20050616175416.GD44491@slackbox.xs4all.nl> X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 6.0-CURRENT Organization: The NUXI BSD Group X-Pgp-Rsa-Fingerprint: B7 4D 3E E9 11 39 5F A3 90 76 5D 69 58 D9 98 7A X-Pgp-Rsa-Keyid: 1024/34F9F9D5 User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.9i Cc: Subject: Re: freebsd-gfx-bugs@nvidia.com X-BeenThere: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: obrien@freebsd.org List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the AMD64 platform List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 17 Jun 2005 07:19:51 -0000 On Thu, Jun 16, 2005 at 07:54:16PM +0200, Roland Smith wrote: > Be carefull what you wish for. The Radeon works on amd64 because the > driver is open source and a couple of us were able to dive into the code > and fix it (it had a small 32-bit-ness issue). Is there a PCI-express ATI video card that is accelerated with the open source Radeon driver? > If your binary-only Nvidia driver breaks you have to wait for nvidia to > release a fix. Amen! -- -- David (obrien@FreeBSD.org) From owner-freebsd-amd64@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jun 17 08:09:59 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C4CFA16A431; Fri, 17 Jun 2005 08:09:59 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from eta@lclark.edu) Received: from leguin.anholt.net (69-30-77-85.dq1sn.easystreet.com [69.30.77.85]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 364A543D48; Fri, 17 Jun 2005 08:09:58 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from eta@lclark.edu) Received: from leguin.anholt.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by leguin.anholt.net (8.13.4/8.13.1) with ESMTP id j5H89vUN003961; Fri, 17 Jun 2005 01:09:57 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from eta@lclark.edu) Received: (from anholt@localhost) by leguin.anholt.net (8.13.4/8.13.1/Submit) id j5H89uOJ003960; Fri, 17 Jun 2005 01:09:56 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from eta@lclark.edu) X-Authentication-Warning: leguin.anholt.net: anholt set sender to eta@lclark.edu using -f From: Eric Anholt To: obrien@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <20050617071950.GA1485@dragon.NUXI.org> References: <9BC86C67C3AF7646B9C5382020457A944E4D6F@VIP10-WIN2K> <200506161324.40052.jhb@FreeBSD.org> <20050616175416.GD44491@slackbox.xs4all.nl> <20050617071950.GA1485@dragon.NUXI.org> Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Date: Fri, 17 Jun 2005 01:09:56 -0700 Message-Id: <1118995796.3943.1.camel@leguin> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.2.2 FreeBSD GNOME Team Port Cc: "Toll, Eric" , freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org Subject: Re: freebsd-gfx-bugs@nvidia.com X-BeenThere: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the AMD64 platform List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 17 Jun 2005 08:10:00 -0000 On Fri, 2005-06-17 at 00:19 -0700, David O'Brien wrote: > On Thu, Jun 16, 2005 at 07:54:16PM +0200, Roland Smith wrote: > > Be carefull what you wish for. The Radeon works on amd64 because the > > driver is open source and a couple of us were able to dive into the code > > and fix it (it had a small 32-bit-ness issue). > > Is there a PCI-express ATI video card that is accelerated with the open > source Radeon driver? Not quite. Dave Airlie has the PCIE bits nearly reverse-engineered, but is still having some issues. (Of course, 2d is accelerated already, this is just the 3d bits) -- Eric Anholt eta@lclark.edu http://people.freebsd.org/ ~anholt/ anholt@FreeBSD.org From owner-freebsd-amd64@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jun 17 08:14:55 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 36A8416A41C; Fri, 17 Jun 2005 08:14:55 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from obrien@NUXI.com) Received: from dragon.NUXI.org (trang.nuxi.com [66.93.134.19]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EA24743D4C; Fri, 17 Jun 2005 08:14:54 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from obrien@NUXI.com) Received: from dragon.NUXI.org (obrien@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by dragon.NUXI.org (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id j5H8EsmL002849; Fri, 17 Jun 2005 01:14:54 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from obrien@dragon.NUXI.org) Received: (from obrien@localhost) by dragon.NUXI.org (8.13.4/8.13.1/Submit) id j5H8Eok0002848; Fri, 17 Jun 2005 01:14:50 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from obrien) Date: Fri, 17 Jun 2005 01:14:50 -0700 From: "David O'Brien" To: "Bjoern A. Zeeb" Message-ID: <20050617081450.GF1485@dragon.NUXI.org> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 6.0-CURRENT Organization: The NUXI BSD Group X-Pgp-Rsa-Fingerprint: B7 4D 3E E9 11 39 5F A3 90 76 5D 69 58 D9 98 7A X-Pgp-Rsa-Keyid: 1024/34F9F9D5 User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.9i Cc: ports@freebsd.org, freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org Subject: Re: ezm3/cvsup ports diffs for amd64 X-BeenThere: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: obrien@freebsd.org List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the AMD64 platform List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 17 Jun 2005 08:14:55 -0000 On Tue, Jun 07, 2005 at 06:57:21PM +0000, Bjoern A. Zeeb wrote: > The ezm3 port will use version 1.1 and not 1.2 on amd64. Why can't ezm3 1.2 be used? -- -- David (obrien@FreeBSD.org) From owner-freebsd-amd64@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jun 17 08:18:56 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0DACE16A41C for ; Fri, 17 Jun 2005 08:18:56 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from obrien@NUXI.com) Received: from dragon.NUXI.org (trang.nuxi.com [66.93.134.19]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DAEBC43D53 for ; Fri, 17 Jun 2005 08:18:55 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from obrien@NUXI.com) Received: from dragon.NUXI.org (obrien@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by dragon.NUXI.org (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id j5H8IseB002989; Fri, 17 Jun 2005 01:18:54 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from obrien@dragon.NUXI.org) Received: (from obrien@localhost) by dragon.NUXI.org (8.13.4/8.13.1/Submit) id j5H8IsMG002987; Fri, 17 Jun 2005 01:18:54 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from obrien) Date: Fri, 17 Jun 2005 01:18:54 -0700 From: "David O'Brien" To: Adriaan de Groot Message-ID: <20050617081853.GG1485@dragon.NUXI.org> References: <20050604234246.G69694@zoraida.natserv.net> <200506050949.54551.groot@kde.org> <20050607113123.R97707@zoraida.natserv.net> <200506071749.28840.groot@kde.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <200506071749.28840.groot@kde.org> X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 6.0-CURRENT Organization: The NUXI BSD Group X-Pgp-Rsa-Fingerprint: B7 4D 3E E9 11 39 5F A3 90 76 5D 69 58 D9 98 7A X-Pgp-Rsa-Keyid: 1024/34F9F9D5 User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.9i Cc: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Which motherboard for RAID in AMD64? X-BeenThere: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: obrien@freebsd.org List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the AMD64 platform List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 17 Jun 2005 08:18:56 -0000 On Tue, Jun 07, 2005 at 05:49:28PM +0200, Adriaan de Groot wrote: > On Tuesday 07 June 2005 17:32, you wrote: > > On Sun, 5 Jun 2005, Adriaan de Groot wrote: > > > Via KT800's embedded RAID which shows up as atapci1: > > controller> works as a RAID controller; configure the RAID array before > > > installation and use ar0 as the device to install FreeBSD to. > > > > > > Promise 20378 RAID which shows up as atapci0: > > controller> works as a RAID controller; same deal. > > > > > > My K8V has both of these controllers, > > > > I am a little confused. Do you have one of those onboard and the second as > > a pci card? > > Lots of motherboards have two RAID controllers on board. See, the VIA KT800 > chipset has one and some vendors add a second, like a promise, for added > value. 4 SATA connectors on the motherboard, on two different controllers. Why do so many motherboard manufacturers do that? Is the SiI or Promise RAID controller ready better than the VIA one? -- -- David (obrien@FreeBSD.org) From owner-freebsd-amd64@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jun 17 08:27:23 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-amd64@FreeBSD.org Delivered-To: freebsd-amd64@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AF2C816A41C; Fri, 17 Jun 2005 08:27:23 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from pav@FreeBSD.org) Received: from e0-a11.b1.lan.prg.vol.cz (e0-a11.b1.lan.prg.vol.cz [195.122.204.152]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3683843D48; Fri, 17 Jun 2005 08:27:23 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from pav@FreeBSD.org) Received: from pav.hide.vol.cz (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by e0-a11.b1.lan.prg.vol.cz (8.13.3/8.13.1) with ESMTP id j5H8RKGx080133; Fri, 17 Jun 2005 10:27:21 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from pav@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from pav@localhost) by pav.hide.vol.cz (8.13.3/8.13.1/Submit) id j5H8RFr9080132; Fri, 17 Jun 2005 10:27:15 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from pav@FreeBSD.org) X-Authentication-Warning: pav.hide.vol.cz: pav set sender to pav@FreeBSD.org using -f From: Pav Lucistnik To: obrien@FreeBSD.org In-Reply-To: <20050617081853.GG1485@dragon.NUXI.org> References: <20050604234246.G69694@zoraida.natserv.net> <200506050949.54551.groot@kde.org> <20050607113123.R97707@zoraida.natserv.net> <200506071749.28840.groot@kde.org> <20050617081853.GG1485@dragon.NUXI.org> Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="=-/L6bLbbnh4lUM4Wxn/qz" Date: Fri, 17 Jun 2005 10:27:15 +0200 Message-Id: <1118996835.79280.10.camel@pav.hide.vol.cz> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.2.3 FreeBSD GNOME Team Port Cc: freebsd-amd64@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: Which motherboard for RAID in AMD64? X-BeenThere: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: pav@FreeBSD.org List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the AMD64 platform List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 17 Jun 2005 08:27:23 -0000 --=-/L6bLbbnh4lUM4Wxn/qz Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO8859-2 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable David O'Brien p=ED=B9e v p=E1 17. 06. 2005 v 01:18 -0700: > On Tue, Jun 07, 2005 at 05:49:28PM +0200, Adriaan de Groot wrote: > > On Tuesday 07 June 2005 17:32, you wrote: > > > On Sun, 5 Jun 2005, Adriaan de Groot wrote: > > > > Via KT800's embedded RAID which shows up as atapci1: > > > controller> works as a RAID controller; configure the RAID array be= fore > > > > installation and use ar0 as the device to install FreeBSD to. > > > > > > > > Promise 20378 RAID which shows up as atapci0: > > > controller> works as a RAID controller; same deal. > > > > > > > > My K8V has both of these controllers, > > > > > > I am a little confused. Do you have one of those onboard and the seco= nd as > > > a pci card? > >=20 > > Lots of motherboards have two RAID controllers on board. See, the VIA K= T800=20 > > chipset has one and some vendors add a second, like a promise, for adde= d=20 > > value. 4 SATA connectors on the motherboard, on two different controlle= rs. >=20 > Why do so many motherboard manufacturers do that? Is the SiI or Promise > RAID controller ready better than the VIA one? Marketing advantage. Boards with four SATA connectors (2 controllers) sell better than boards with two SATA connectors (single controller). --=20 Pav Lucistnik If God is perfect, why did He create discontinuous functions? --=-/L6bLbbnh4lUM4Wxn/qz Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Description: This is a digitally signed message part -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.1 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQBCsoljntdYP8FOsoIRAsBRAKC/cE9xCBZjbGcO040nKlX2o87iVACeLIuF ux0bT6ekZHs9xToEZXVgFU8= =XdAv -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --=-/L6bLbbnh4lUM4Wxn/qz-- From owner-freebsd-amd64@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jun 17 11:15:10 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A192F16A41C; Fri, 17 Jun 2005 11:15:10 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from bzeeb-lists@lists.zabbadoz.net) Received: from transport.cksoft.de (transport.cksoft.de [62.111.66.27]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5C5FD43D48; Fri, 17 Jun 2005 11:15:09 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from bzeeb-lists@lists.zabbadoz.net) Received: from transport.cksoft.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by transport.cksoft.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id B75581FFACA; Fri, 17 Jun 2005 13:15:07 +0200 (CEST) Received: by transport.cksoft.de (Postfix, from userid 66) id 634C71FF931; Fri, 17 Jun 2005 13:15:05 +0200 (CEST) Received: by mail.int.zabbadoz.net (Postfix, from userid 1060) id 45991157F4; Fri, 17 Jun 2005 11:13:57 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.int.zabbadoz.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3B4CD15583; Fri, 17 Jun 2005 11:13:58 +0000 (UTC) Date: Fri, 17 Jun 2005 11:13:58 +0000 (UTC) From: "Bjoern A. Zeeb" X-X-Sender: bz@e0-0.zab2.int.zabbadoz.net To: David O'Brien In-Reply-To: <20050617081450.GF1485@dragon.NUXI.org> Message-ID: References: <20050617081450.GF1485@dragon.NUXI.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Virus-Scanned: by AMaViS cksoft-s20020300-20031204bz on transport.cksoft.de Cc: ports@freebsd.org, freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org Subject: Re: ezm3/cvsup ports diffs for amd64 X-BeenThere: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the AMD64 platform List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 17 Jun 2005 11:15:10 -0000 On Fri, 17 Jun 2005, David O'Brien wrote: > On Tue, Jun 07, 2005 at 06:57:21PM +0000, Bjoern A. Zeeb wrote: > > The ezm3 port will use version 1.1 and not 1.2 on amd64. > > Why can't ezm3 1.2 be used? imho ezm3 1.2 doesn't natively support amd64 (else we would have had a working port already) and I don't have patches for 1.2 either. -- Bjoern A. Zeeb bzeeb at Zabbadoz dot NeT From owner-freebsd-amd64@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jun 17 12:53:20 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 97F5816A41C; Fri, 17 Jun 2005 12:53:20 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from joel@automatvapen.se) Received: from av6-1-sn3.vrr.skanova.net (av6-1-sn3.vrr.skanova.net [81.228.9.179]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5178243D48; Fri, 17 Jun 2005 12:53:19 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from joel@automatvapen.se) Received: by av6-1-sn3.vrr.skanova.net (Postfix, from userid 502) id B926937E4C; Fri, 17 Jun 2005 14:53:18 +0200 (CEST) Received: from smtp3-1-sn3.vrr.skanova.net (smtp3-1-sn3.vrr.skanova.net [81.228.9.101]) by av6-1-sn3.vrr.skanova.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A2E6D37E42; Fri, 17 Jun 2005 14:53:18 +0200 (CEST) Received: from t10o55p77.telia.com (t10o55p77.telia.com [81.225.221.197]) by smtp3-1-sn3.vrr.skanova.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 66F8137E47; Fri, 17 Jun 2005 14:53:16 +0200 (CEST) From: Joel Dahl To: John Baldwin In-Reply-To: <200506161324.40052.jhb@FreeBSD.org> References: <9BC86C67C3AF7646B9C5382020457A944E4D6F@VIP10-WIN2K> <200506161324.40052.jhb@FreeBSD.org> Content-Type: text/plain Date: Fri, 17 Jun 2005 14:42:12 +0200 Message-Id: <1119012132.671.1.camel@dude.automatvapen.se> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.2.2 FreeBSD GNOME Team Port Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: "Toll, Eric" , freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org Subject: Re: freebsd-gfx-bugs@nvidia.com X-BeenThere: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the AMD64 platform List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 17 Jun 2005 12:53:20 -0000 On Thu, 2005-06-16 at 13:24 -0400, John Baldwin wrote: > On Thursday 16 June 2005 09:44 am, Toll, Eric wrote: > > freebsd-gfx-bugs@nvidia.com is the correct email address to > > request an AMD64 FreeBSD AMD64 accelerated driver. > > > > I am using the ATI Radeon 9200 card with DRI for OpenGL. > > (Thanks Roland!) It's O..K.., but I'd rather have a Nvidia > > card in there. Perhaps all those with Nforce chipset issues > > could also request support for FreeBSD AMD64 as well. > > > > Again that email address is: freebsd-gfx-bugs@nvidia.com for > > those would like Nvidia to know that we'd like a FreeBSD > > AMD64 hardware accelerated drivers for Nvidia cards. > > > > I see they have a AMD64 drivers for linux, has anyone hacked > > this to work with FreeBSD? > > Nvidia is waiting for certain changes to be made to the kernel on our end > before they can release an amd64 driver for FreeBSD. Exactly what are those "certain changes"? :-) -- Joel From owner-freebsd-amd64@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jun 17 13:54:37 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 51AE816A41C for ; Fri, 17 Jun 2005 13:54:37 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ohartman@mail.uni-mainz.de) Received: from mailgate1.zdv.Uni-Mainz.DE (mailgate1.zdv.Uni-Mainz.DE [134.93.178.129]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1439E43D48 for ; Fri, 17 Jun 2005 13:54:36 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ohartman@mail.uni-mainz.de) Received: from [134.93.180.218] (edda.Physik.Uni-Mainz.DE [134.93.180.218]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mailgate1.zdv.Uni-Mainz.DE (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5884A3000E19 for ; Fri, 17 Jun 2005 15:54:35 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <42B2D638.8090501@mail.uni-mainz.de> Date: Fri, 17 Jun 2005 15:55:04 +0200 From: "O. Hartmann" Organization: Institut =?ISO-8859-15?Q?f=FCr_Geophysik?= User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.2 (X11/20050424) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at uni-mainz.de Subject: 6.0-CURRENT (SNAP004) on AMD64 fails, alternatives? X-BeenThere: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the AMD64 platform List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 17 Jun 2005 13:54:37 -0000 Hello. I try to boot 6.0-Current from the most recent June2005 snap built and kernel fails due to detaching and ataching hard drives connected to the nForce4 SATA controller (ASUS A8N-SLI Deluxe with Maxtor 6MO200B and Samsung 2004C drives). I read about problems with SATA/ATA in this list so I don't want to do a error report. I would like to know whether there is an alternative way to get a maybe fixed boot image of 6.0-CURRENT? Oliver From owner-freebsd-amd64@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jun 17 19:20:44 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: amd64@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-amd64@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9D19E16A41F; Fri, 17 Jun 2005 19:20:44 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jhb@FreeBSD.org) Received: from mv.twc.weather.com (mv.twc.weather.com [65.212.71.225]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1549343D48; Fri, 17 Jun 2005 19:20:43 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jhb@FreeBSD.org) Received: from [10.50.41.231] (Not Verified[216.133.140.1]) by mv.twc.weather.com with NetIQ MailMarshal (v6, 0, 3, 8) id ; Fri, 17 Jun 2005 15:34:10 -0400 From: John Baldwin To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Date: Fri, 17 Jun 2005 14:34:47 -0400 User-Agent: KMail/1.8 References: <20050510223636.GA49927@xor.obsecurity.org> <20050529175056.GA99318@xor.obsecurity.org> In-Reply-To: <20050529175056.GA99318@xor.obsecurity.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-6" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200506171434.49008.jhb@FreeBSD.org> Cc: amd64@freebsd.org, current@freebsd.org, Kris Kennaway Subject: Re: Fatal trap 12 in exec_copyout_strings() X-BeenThere: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the AMD64 platform List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 17 Jun 2005 19:20:44 -0000 On Sunday 29 May 2005 01:50 pm, Kris Kennaway wrote: > On Tue, May 10, 2005 at 03:36:36PM -0700, Kris Kennaway wrote: > > Got this on a dual amd64 with 8GB RAM running 6.0 from last week: > > > > Fatal trap 12: page fault while in kernel mode > > cpuid = 1; apic id = 01 > > fault virtual address = 0xffffffffa9cdc000 > > fault code = supervisor read, page not present > > instruction pointer = 0x8:0xffffffff8037759f > > stack pointer = 0x10:0xffffffffba1637d0 > > frame pointer = 0x10:0xffffffffba163820 > > code segment = base 0x0, limit 0xfffff, type 0x1b > > = DPL 0, pres 1, long 1, def32 0, gran 1 > > processor eflags = interrupt enabled, resume, IOPL = 0 > > current process = 52247 (sh) > > [thread pid 52247 tid 100149 ] > > Stopped at exec_copyout_strings+0x12f: > > db> wh > > Tracing pid 52247 tid 100149 td 0xffffff016e5724c0 > > exec_copyout_strings() at exec_copyout_strings+0x12f > > do_execve() at do_execve+0x39a > > kern_execve() at kern_execve+0xab > > execve() at execve+0x49 > > syscall() at syscall+0x382 > > Xfast_syscall() at Xfast_syscall+0xa8 > > --- syscall (59, FreeBSD ELF64, execve), rip = 0x80090622c, rsp = > > 0x7fffffffe058, rbp = 0xffffffff --- db> > > I've got this panic twice more since. Do you have a kernel.debug? Can you do 'list *exec_copyout_strings+0x12f'? I think I've seen reports of the linux32_exec_copyout_strings() having a similar fault as well on amd64. -- John Baldwin <>< http://www.FreeBSD.org/~jhb/ "Power Users Use the Power to Serve" = http://www.FreeBSD.org From owner-freebsd-amd64@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jun 17 22:51:21 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F048716A41F for ; Fri, 17 Jun 2005 22:51:20 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from groot@kde.org) Received: from pandora.cs.kun.nl (pandora.cs.kun.nl [131.174.33.4]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8D36E43D1F for ; Fri, 17 Jun 2005 22:51:20 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from groot@kde.org) Received: from odin.cs.kun.nl [131.174.33.33] (helo=localhost.englishbreakfastnetwork.org) by pandora.cs.kun.nl (8.12.10/5.2) with ESMTP id j5HMpHI4015725 for ; Sat, 18 Jun 2005 00:51:17 +0200 (MEST) From: Adriaan de Groot To: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org Date: Sat, 18 Jun 2005 00:51:17 +0200 User-Agent: KMail/1.8.50 References: <20050604234246.G69694@zoraida.natserv.net> <200506071749.28840.groot@kde.org> <20050617081853.GG1485@dragon.NUXI.org> In-Reply-To: <20050617081853.GG1485@dragon.NUXI.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200506180051.17505.groot@kde.org> X-Spam-Score: 1.833 (*) BAYES_50,FORGED_RCVD_HELO X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.48 on 131.174.33.4 Subject: Re: Which motherboard for RAID in AMD64? X-BeenThere: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the AMD64 platform List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 17 Jun 2005 22:51:22 -0000 On Friday 17 June 2005 10:18, David O'Brien wrote: > On Tue, Jun 07, 2005 at 05:49:28PM +0200, Adriaan de Groot wrote: > > Lots of motherboards have two RAID controllers on board. See, the VIA > > KT800 chipset has one and some vendors add a second, like a promise, for > > added value. 4 SATA connectors on the motherboard, on two different > > controllers. > > Why do so many motherboard manufacturers do that? Is the SiI or Promise > RAID controller ready better than the VIA one? Two is better than one. Iterate that a few times and you've got four. I don't immediately see the advantage of the additional connectors since you can't combine the 4 drives you might connect into a single array, only as two separate arrays. Hey, but you could GEOM across controllers. I haven't tried any performance measurements on the one controller or the other -- I'm pleased that I can move the array from one controller to another and that it works, that's enough for me. Sil (e.g. the Sil3114 on the nForce4-based Asus A8N-SLI) isn't supported beyond "generic ata", right? I've not seen it mentioned in the hardware notes for ages. -- These are your friends - Adem GPG: FEA2 A3FE Adriaan de Groot From owner-freebsd-amd64@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jun 17 23:08:01 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: amd64@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-amd64@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D57D716A41C; Fri, 17 Jun 2005 23:08:01 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from kris@obsecurity.org) Received: from obsecurity.dyndns.org (CPE0050040655c8-CM00111ae02aac.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com [69.194.102.232]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8D3BD43D1F; Fri, 17 Jun 2005 23:08:01 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from kris@obsecurity.org) Received: by obsecurity.dyndns.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id B379451259; Fri, 17 Jun 2005 19:08:00 -0400 (EDT) Date: Fri, 17 Jun 2005 19:08:00 -0400 From: Kris Kennaway To: John Baldwin Message-ID: <20050617230800.GA72019@xor.obsecurity.org> References: <20050510223636.GA49927@xor.obsecurity.org> <20050529175056.GA99318@xor.obsecurity.org> <200506171434.49008.jhb@FreeBSD.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="cNdxnHkX5QqsyA0e" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <200506171434.49008.jhb@FreeBSD.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Cc: amd64@freebsd.org, freebsd-current@freebsd.org, current@freebsd.org, Kris Kennaway Subject: Re: Fatal trap 12 in exec_copyout_strings() X-BeenThere: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the AMD64 platform List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 17 Jun 2005 23:08:02 -0000 --cNdxnHkX5QqsyA0e Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Fri, Jun 17, 2005 at 02:34:47PM -0400, John Baldwin wrote: > On Sunday 29 May 2005 01:50 pm, Kris Kennaway wrote: > > On Tue, May 10, 2005 at 03:36:36PM -0700, Kris Kennaway wrote: > > > Got this on a dual amd64 with 8GB RAM running 6.0 from last week: > > > > > > Fatal trap 12: page fault while in kernel mode > > > cpuid =3D 1; apic id =3D 01 > > > fault virtual address =3D 0xffffffffa9cdc000 > > > fault code =3D supervisor read, page not present > > > instruction pointer =3D 0x8:0xffffffff8037759f > > > stack pointer =3D 0x10:0xffffffffba1637d0 > > > frame pointer =3D 0x10:0xffffffffba163820 > > > code segment =3D base 0x0, limit 0xfffff, type 0x1b > > > =3D DPL 0, pres 1, long 1, def32 0, gran 1 > > > processor eflags =3D interrupt enabled, resume, IOPL =3D 0 > > > current process =3D 52247 (sh) > > > [thread pid 52247 tid 100149 ] > > > Stopped at exec_copyout_strings+0x12f: > > > db> wh > > > Tracing pid 52247 tid 100149 td 0xffffff016e5724c0 > > > exec_copyout_strings() at exec_copyout_strings+0x12f > > > do_execve() at do_execve+0x39a > > > kern_execve() at kern_execve+0xab > > > execve() at execve+0x49 > > > syscall() at syscall+0x382 > > > Xfast_syscall() at Xfast_syscall+0xa8 > > > --- syscall (59, FreeBSD ELF64, execve), rip =3D 0x80090622c, rsp =3D > > > 0x7fffffffe058, rbp =3D 0xffffffff --- db> > > > > I've got this panic twice more since. >=20 > Do you have a kernel.debug? Can you do 'list *exec_copyout_strings+0x12f= '? I=20 > think I've seen reports of the linux32_exec_copyout_strings() having a=20 > similar fault as well on amd64. If (when) it happens again I'll do this (unfortunately I can't dump on this machine, though). Thanks for the response. Kris --cNdxnHkX5QqsyA0e Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.1 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFCs1fQWry0BWjoQKURAvZtAJ4uI7edNhqHxiLhSVNGmWW3R1/mQwCfcLYJ kfKV8J73pOcy7oIXm0SHd1M= =XMEj -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --cNdxnHkX5QqsyA0e-- From owner-freebsd-amd64@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jun 17 23:38:01 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B18F816A41C for ; Fri, 17 Jun 2005 23:38:01 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jmartin37@speakeasy.net) Received: from mail27.sea5.speakeasy.net (mail27.sea5.speakeasy.net [69.17.117.29]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8914543D4C for ; Fri, 17 Jun 2005 23:38:01 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jmartin37@speakeasy.net) Received: (qmail 24071 invoked from network); 17 Jun 2005 23:38:01 -0000 Received: from dsl027-163-157.atl1.dsl.speakeasy.net (HELO [192.168.0.200]) (moonlightcheese@[216.27.163.157]) (envelope-sender ) by mail27.sea5.speakeasy.net (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for ; 17 Jun 2005 23:38:01 -0000 Message-ID: <42B35EDB.1080308@speakeasy.net> Date: Fri, 17 Jun 2005 19:38:03 -0400 From: Jarrod Martin User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (Windows/20041206) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Adriaan de Groot References: <20050604234246.G69694@zoraida.natserv.net> <200506071749.28840.groot@kde.org> <20050617081853.GG1485@dragon.NUXI.org> <200506180051.17505.groot@kde.org> In-Reply-To: <200506180051.17505.groot@kde.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Which motherboard for RAID in AMD64? X-BeenThere: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the AMD64 platform List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 17 Jun 2005 23:38:01 -0000 Adriaan de Groot wrote: >On Friday 17 June 2005 10:18, David O'Brien wrote: > > >>On Tue, Jun 07, 2005 at 05:49:28PM +0200, Adriaan de Groot wrote: >> >> >>>Lots of motherboards have two RAID controllers on board. See, the VIA >>>KT800 chipset has one and some vendors add a second, like a promise, for >>>added value. 4 SATA connectors on the motherboard, on two different >>>controllers. >>> >>> >>Why do so many motherboard manufacturers do that? Is the SiI or Promise >>RAID controller ready better than the VIA one? >> >> no... it isn't. you can read most of the motherboard reviews and learn that the performance increases are slim to none for the secondary SATA controller. in fact performance on the included SATA controller is normally better (but by a negligible amount). > >Two is better than one. Iterate that a few times and you've got >four. I don't immediately see the advantage of the additional connectors >since you can't combine the 4 drives you might connect into a single array, >only as two separate arrays. Hey, but you could GEOM across controllers. I >haven't tried any performance measurements on the one controller or the other >-- I'm pleased that I can move the array from one controller to another and >that it works, that's enough for me. > >Sil (e.g. the Sil3114 on the nForce4-based Asus A8N-SLI) isn't >supported beyond "generic ata", right? I've not seen it mentioned in the >hardware notes for ages. > > > From owner-freebsd-amd64@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jun 18 00:08:13 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 18E9616A41C for ; Sat, 18 Jun 2005 00:08:13 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from davidxu@freebsd.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F381243D1F; Sat, 18 Jun 2005 00:08:12 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from davidxu@freebsd.org) Received: from [127.0.0.1] (davidxu@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.13.3/8.13.3) with ESMTP id j5I08Bae078761; Sat, 18 Jun 2005 00:08:12 GMT (envelope-from davidxu@freebsd.org) Message-ID: <42B365E1.6050501@freebsd.org> Date: Sat, 18 Jun 2005 08:08:01 +0800 From: David Xu User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD amd64; en-US; rv:1.7.8) Gecko/20050605 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Jarrod Martin References: <20050604234246.G69694@zoraida.natserv.net> <200506071749.28840.groot@kde.org> <20050617081853.GG1485@dragon.NUXI.org> <200506180051.17505.groot@kde.org> <42B35EDB.1080308@speakeasy.net> In-Reply-To: <42B35EDB.1080308@speakeasy.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Which motherboard for RAID in AMD64? X-BeenThere: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the AMD64 platform List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 18 Jun 2005 00:08:13 -0000 Jarrod Martin wrote: > Adriaan de Groot wrote: > >> On Friday 17 June 2005 10:18, David O'Brien wrote: >> >> >>> On Tue, Jun 07, 2005 at 05:49:28PM +0200, Adriaan de Groot wrote: >>> >>> >>>> Lots of motherboards have two RAID controllers on board. See, the VIA >>>> KT800 chipset has one and some vendors add a second, like a >>>> promise, for >>>> added value. 4 SATA connectors on the motherboard, on two different >>>> controllers. >>>> >>> >>> Why do so many motherboard manufacturers do that? Is the SiI or >>> Promise >>> RAID controller ready better than the VIA one? >>> >> > no... it isn't. you can read most of the motherboard reviews and > learn that the performance increases are slim to none for the > secondary SATA controller. in fact performance on the included SATA > controller is normally better (but by a negligible amount). > Secondary SATA normally is connected by PCI which has limited bandwidth and longer latency when comparing with chipsets built in SATA controller, Don't know how well a PCI-e based SATA controller will perform. David Xu From owner-freebsd-amd64@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jun 18 00:09:06 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-amd64@FreeBSD.org Delivered-To: freebsd-amd64@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9B8AE16A41C for ; Sat, 18 Jun 2005 00:09:06 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from nakaji@takamatsu-nct.ac.jp) Received: from www.heimat.gr.jp (www.heimat.gr.jp [221.186.186.10]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6354943D4C for ; Sat, 18 Jun 2005 00:09:05 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from nakaji@takamatsu-nct.ac.jp) Received: from ra333.heimat.gr.jp.takamatsu-nct.ac.jp (xa12.heimat.gr.jp [IPv6:2001:3e0:a84:0:200:4cff:fe17:573c]) by www.heimat.gr.jp (8.13.3/8.13.1) with ESMTP id j5I090TN042334 for ; Sat, 18 Jun 2005 09:09:00 +0900 (JST) (envelope-from nakaji@takamatsu-nct.ac.jp) Sender: nakaji@takamatsu-nct.ac.jp From: NAKAJI Hiroyuki To: freebsd-amd64@FreeBSD.org Date: Sat, 18 Jun 2005 09:09:00 +0900 Message-ID: <861x70h6g3.fsf@ra333.heimat.gr.jp> User-Agent: Gnus/5.110004 (No Gnus v0.4) Emacs/21.3 (berkeley-unix) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Cc: Subject: HDAMD, 39320A-R and U320 disks X-BeenThere: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the AMD64 platform List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 18 Jun 2005 00:09:06 -0000 Hello all, After 9 months, I started operation on my Dual Opteron system which I bought in the end of Sep 2004. I posted a mail to amd64 list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/htdig/freebsd-amd64/2004-September/002152.html and long time no use of this box. The system is, o Rioworks HDAMD o 2 Opteron CPUs (1.4GHz, almost 1 year old) o 1GB memory o Adaptec 39320A-R (PCI-X) o 2 U320 drives (72GB) o ATA disk (80GB) I made a snapshot on 20050616 and tried it. The results are, 1. When ACPI is enabled by BIOS, all devices including 39320A-R on PCI-X bus are detected but the disks connected to 39320A-R are not found and the system seems hangup. 2. When ACPI is disabled, many of devices such as 39320A-R are not detected and installation onto ATA drive can finish. But with NO SCSI. (Oops, I forgot copy dmesg.boot...) How can I use this U320 system then? Are there any additional patch for current or any hope? FYI, Solaris 10 can work with this system, but (Free|Net)BSD cannot. The situation on NetBSD is worse than on FreeBSD. When I tested it 9 month ago, Fedora Core 2 also worked. Thanks. -- NAKAJI Hiroyuki From owner-freebsd-amd64@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jun 18 10:10:23 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-amd64@hub.freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-amd64@hub.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DAA1F16A41C for ; Sat, 18 Jun 2005 10:10:23 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B425E43D49 for ; Sat, 18 Jun 2005 10:10:23 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (gnats@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.13.3/8.13.3) with ESMTP id j5IAANMo097245 for ; Sat, 18 Jun 2005 10:10:23 GMT (envelope-from gnats@freefall.freebsd.org) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.13.3/8.13.1/Submit) id j5IAANjJ097244; Sat, 18 Jun 2005 10:10:23 GMT (envelope-from gnats) Resent-Date: Sat, 18 Jun 2005 10:10:23 GMT Resent-Message-Id: <200506181010.j5IAANjJ097244@freefall.freebsd.org> Resent-From: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.org (GNATS Filer) Resent-To: freebsd-amd64@FreeBSD.org Resent-Reply-To: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.org, Stanislav Sedov Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 166A816A41C for ; Sat, 18 Jun 2005 10:02:50 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from stas@core.310.ru) Received: from core.310.ru (core.310.ru [83.97.105.75]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4A10F43D48 for ; Sat, 18 Jun 2005 10:02:50 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from stas@core.310.ru) Received: from core.310.ru (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core.310.ru (8.13.3/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5I9XhYp093953 for ; Sat, 18 Jun 2005 13:33:43 +0400 (MSD) (envelope-from stas@core.310.ru) Received: (from stas@localhost) by core.310.ru (8.13.3/8.12.11/Submit) id j5I9Xh7A093952; Sat, 18 Jun 2005 13:33:43 +0400 (MSD) (envelope-from stas) Message-Id: <200506180933.j5I9Xh7A093952@core.310.ru> Date: Sat, 18 Jun 2005 13:33:43 +0400 (MSD) From: Stanislav Sedov To: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.org X-Send-Pr-Version: 3.113 Cc: Subject: amd64/82380: buildworld error in libc X-BeenThere: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Stanislav Sedov List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the AMD64 platform List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 18 Jun 2005 10:10:24 -0000 >Number: 82380 >Category: amd64 >Synopsis: buildworld error in libc >Confidential: no >Severity: non-critical >Priority: medium >Responsible: freebsd-amd64 >State: open >Quarter: >Keywords: >Date-Required: >Class: sw-bug >Submitter-Id: current-users >Arrival-Date: Sat Jun 18 10:10:23 GMT 2005 >Closed-Date: >Last-Modified: >Originator: Stanislav Sedov >Release: FreeBSD 5.4-STABLE amd64 >Organization: 310.ru [Tridesyatoe] >Environment: System: FreeBSD de7.310.ru 5.4-STABLE FreeBSD 5.4-STABLE #4: Sat Jun 18 00:29:33 MSD 2005 root@de7.310.ru:/usr/src/sys/amd64/compile/DE7 amd64 >Description: As "make buildworld" compile libc with -Werror enabled, the warnings about type conversions in lib/libc/i386/sys/_amd64_get_gsbase.c and lib/libc/i386/sys/_amd64_get_fsbase.c stop building. The following patch would help. >How-To-Repeat: cd /usr/src; make buildworld >Fix: --- diff1 begins here --- --- lib/libc/i386/sys/_amd64_get_gsbase.c.orig Sat Nov 27 23:24:31 2004 +++ lib/libc/i386/sys/_amd64_get_gsbase.c Sat Jun 18 17:28:45 2005 @@ -33,11 +33,11 @@ int _amd64_get_gsbase(void **addr) { - uint64_t addr64; + uint64_t addr64[1]; int ret; - addr64 = 0; - ret = sysarch(_AMD64_GET_GSBASE, (void **)(&addr64)); + addr64[0] = 0; + ret = sysarch(_AMD64_GET_GSBASE, &addr64); if (ret != -1) *addr = (void *)(uintptr_t)addr64; return ret; --- diff1 ends here --- --- diff2 begins here --- --- lib/libc/i386/sys/_amd64_get_fsbase.c.orig Sat Nov 27 23:24:31 2004 +++ lib/libc/i386/sys/_amd64_get_fsbase.c Sat Jun 18 17:28:36 2005 @@ -33,11 +33,11 @@ int _amd64_get_fsbase(void **addr) { - uint64_t addr64; + uint64_t addr64[1]; int ret; - addr64 = 0; - ret = sysarch(_AMD64_GET_FSBASE, (void **)(&addr64)); + addr64[0] = 0; + ret = sysarch(_AMD64_GET_FSBASE, &addr64); if (ret != -1) *addr = (void *)(uintptr_t)addr64; return ret; --- diff2 ends here --- >Release-Note: >Audit-Trail: >Unformatted: From owner-freebsd-amd64@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jun 18 11:46:13 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 866E916A41F for ; Sat, 18 Jun 2005 11:46:13 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ohartman@mail.uni-mainz.de) Received: from mailgate2.zdv.Uni-Mainz.DE (mailgate2.zdv.Uni-Mainz.DE [134.93.178.130]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1422243D5E for ; Sat, 18 Jun 2005 11:46:13 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ohartman@mail.uni-mainz.de) Received: from [134.93.180.218] (edda.Physik.Uni-Mainz.DE [134.93.180.218]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mailgate2.zdv.Uni-Mainz.DE (Postfix) with ESMTP id C3D993000752 for ; Sat, 18 Jun 2005 13:46:11 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <42B409A7.5020909@mail.uni-mainz.de> Date: Sat, 18 Jun 2005 13:46:47 +0200 From: "O. Hartmann" Organization: Institut =?ISO-8859-15?Q?f=FCr_Geophysik?= User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.2 (X11/20050424) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at uni-mainz.de Subject: 6.0-Current and gcc 4.x X-BeenThere: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the AMD64 platform List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 18 Jun 2005 11:46:13 -0000 Hi. As I see in the sources, FreeBSD 6.0-Current is still based on gcc 3.4.4. I think due to code freezing this version will be the platform compiler when 6.0-RELEASE comes out. Are there any plans using a more recent version of gcc, like 4.0 or 4.1? On some lists I read something about better support of the features of AMD64/EM64T architectures, especially SSE3. Thanks. Oliver From owner-freebsd-amd64@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jun 18 12:47:22 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 13E1E16A41C for ; Sat, 18 Jun 2005 12:47:22 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from scottl@samsco.org) Received: from pooker.samsco.org (pooker.samsco.org [168.103.85.57]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BF67243D1D for ; Sat, 18 Jun 2005 12:47:19 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from scottl@samsco.org) Received: from [192.168.1.156] ([62.233.162.77]) (authenticated bits=0) by pooker.samsco.org (8.13.3/8.13.3) with ESMTP id j5ICpIV3041537; Sat, 18 Jun 2005 06:51:20 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from scottl@samsco.org) Message-ID: <42B417C7.80904@samsco.org> Date: Sat, 18 Jun 2005 06:47:03 -0600 From: Scott Long User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.7.8) Gecko/20050615 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "O. Hartmann" References: <42B409A7.5020909@mail.uni-mainz.de> In-Reply-To: <42B409A7.5020909@mail.uni-mainz.de> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.0 required=3.8 tests=none autolearn=failed version=3.0.2 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.0.2 (2004-11-16) on pooker.samsco.org Cc: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org Subject: Re: 6.0-Current and gcc 4.x X-BeenThere: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the AMD64 platform List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 18 Jun 2005 12:47:22 -0000 O. Hartmann wrote: > Hi. > As I see in the sources, FreeBSD 6.0-Current is still based on gcc > 3.4.4. I think due to code freezing this version will be the platform > compiler when 6.0-RELEASE comes out. Are there any plans using a more > recent version of gcc, like 4.0 or 4.1? On some lists I read something > about better support of the features of AMD64/EM64T architectures, > especially SSE3. > > Thanks. > Oliver No, it's far too late to consider switching to gcc 4.0 for FreeBSD 6.x. Once we switch, there will likely be a massive amount of work to do in the ports tree. Given all the disruptions in the past 3 years over gcc 3.x, I think it would be nice to take a small break and not be on the bleeding edge of gcc. Scott From owner-freebsd-amd64@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jun 18 13:01:49 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D580816A41C for ; Sat, 18 Jun 2005 13:01:49 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from delphij@frontfree.net) Received: from tarsier.geekcn.org (tarsier.geekcn.org [210.51.165.229]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6AEB643D53 for ; Sat, 18 Jun 2005 13:01:48 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from delphij@frontfree.net) Received: from beastie.frontfree.net (unknown [219.239.99.7]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by tarsier.geekcn.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 29671EB1BEE for ; Sat, 18 Jun 2005 21:01:45 +0800 (CST) Received: from localhost (localhost.frontfree.net [127.0.0.1]) by beastie.frontfree.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E781A130E22; Sat, 18 Jun 2005 21:01:42 +0800 (CST) Received: from beastie.frontfree.net ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (beastie.frontfree.net [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 24307-01; Sat, 18 Jun 2005 21:01:31 +0800 (CST) Received: from [172.21.25.83] (unknown [172.21.25.83]) (using TLSv1 with cipher RC4-MD5 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by beastie.frontfree.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DA714130DBB; Sat, 18 Jun 2005 21:01:25 +0800 (CST) From: Xin LI To: "O. Hartmann" In-Reply-To: <42B409A7.5020909@mail.uni-mainz.de> References: <42B409A7.5020909@mail.uni-mainz.de> Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="=-o3pTpH+rUpiywhu/h8vP" Organization: The FreeBSD Simplified Chinese Project Date: Sat, 18 Jun 2005 21:01:21 +0800 Message-Id: <1119099681.759.22.camel@spirit> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.2.3 FreeBSD GNOME Team Port X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at frontfree.net Cc: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org Subject: Re: 6.0-Current and gcc 4.x X-BeenThere: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: delphij@delphij.net List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the AMD64 platform List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 18 Jun 2005 13:01:50 -0000 --=-o3pTpH+rUpiywhu/h8vP Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi, =E5=9C=A8 2005-06-18=E5=85=AD=E7=9A=84 13:46 +0200=EF=BC=8CO. Hartmann=E5= =86=99=E9=81=93=EF=BC=9A > Hi. > As I see in the sources, FreeBSD 6.0-Current is still based on gcc=20 > 3.4.4. I think due to code freezing this version will be the platform=20 > compiler when 6.0-RELEASE comes out. Are there any plans using a more=20 > recent version of gcc, like 4.0 or 4.1? On some lists I read something=20 > about better support of the features of AMD64/EM64T architectures,=20 > especially SSE3. Currently there is no plan to upgrade to GCC 4.x. We are in a code slush for preparation of RELENG_6 right now, since GCC 4.x import would involve a large scale code modification (some of our code would not compile on gcc 4.x since it is more picky than 3.x series, and some of gcc 3.x features has been removed since they are not ISO C/C++ and certain part of our code has utilized these features), and causes performance degradation on i386 architecture, I don't think we will import gcc 4.x in FreeBSD 6.x. Help on making FreeBSD compile on newer compiler(s) and clean up the code base is always appreciated, of course :-) Meantime you would be able to get latest GCC 4.x from our ports collection. Cheers, --=20 Xin LI http://www.delphij.net/ --=-o3pTpH+rUpiywhu/h8vP Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Description: This is a digitally signed message part -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.1 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQBCtBsh/cVsHxFZiIoRAr68AJ0cZ9L2EoanECTkPj5x7UaaB17Y+wCfXJPv 4ji89UWtlqyNBffgzckZHfE= =lNdq -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --=-o3pTpH+rUpiywhu/h8vP-- From owner-freebsd-amd64@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jun 18 16:29:27 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BC2B316A41C for ; Sat, 18 Jun 2005 16:29:27 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from sgk@troutmask.apl.washington.edu) Received: from troutmask.apl.washington.edu (troutmask.apl.washington.edu [128.208.78.105]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9EA8E43D48 for ; Sat, 18 Jun 2005 16:29:27 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from sgk@troutmask.apl.washington.edu) Received: from troutmask.apl.washington.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by troutmask.apl.washington.edu (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id j5IGTRQi055674; Sat, 18 Jun 2005 09:29:27 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from sgk@troutmask.apl.washington.edu) Received: (from sgk@localhost) by troutmask.apl.washington.edu (8.13.4/8.13.1/Submit) id j5IGTNtH055673; Sat, 18 Jun 2005 09:29:23 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from sgk) Date: Sat, 18 Jun 2005 09:29:23 -0700 From: Steve Kargl To: "O. Hartmann" Message-ID: <20050618162922.GE55448@troutmask.apl.washington.edu> References: <42B409A7.5020909@mail.uni-mainz.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <42B409A7.5020909@mail.uni-mainz.de> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Cc: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org Subject: Re: 6.0-Current and gcc 4.x X-BeenThere: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the AMD64 platform List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 18 Jun 2005 16:29:27 -0000 On Sat, Jun 18, 2005 at 01:46:47PM +0200, O. Hartmann wrote: > > As I see in the sources, FreeBSD 6.0-Current is still based on gcc > 3.4.4. I think due to code freezing this version will be the platform > compiler when 6.0-RELEASE comes out. Are there any plans using a more > recent version of gcc, like 4.0 or 4.1? On some lists I read something > about better support of the features of AMD64/EM64T architectures, > especially SSE3. > It's David O'Brien and Kan's call, but I would recommend against the use of gcc 4.0.0. GCC is in the process of (early) release of 4.0.1 due to serious bugs affecting compilation of C++ and KDE. -- Steve From owner-freebsd-amd64@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jun 18 23:30:08 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-amd64@hub.freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-amd64@hub.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DAEAC16A41C for ; Sat, 18 Jun 2005 23:30:08 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B696843D48 for ; Sat, 18 Jun 2005 23:30:08 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (gnats@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.13.3/8.13.3) with ESMTP id j5INU8qG085858 for ; Sat, 18 Jun 2005 23:30:08 GMT (envelope-from gnats@freefall.freebsd.org) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.13.3/8.13.1/Submit) id j5INU8f3085855; Sat, 18 Jun 2005 23:30:08 GMT (envelope-from gnats) Resent-Date: Sat, 18 Jun 2005 23:30:08 GMT Resent-Message-Id: <200506182330.j5INU8f3085855@freefall.freebsd.org> Resent-From: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.org (GNATS Filer) Resent-To: freebsd-amd64@FreeBSD.org Resent-Reply-To: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.org, Ahmet Engin Karahan Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6074416A41C for ; Sat, 18 Jun 2005 23:20:49 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from nobody@FreeBSD.org) Received: from www.freebsd.org (www.freebsd.org [216.136.204.117]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 32C3143D48 for ; Sat, 18 Jun 2005 23:20:49 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from nobody@FreeBSD.org) Received: from www.freebsd.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by www.freebsd.org (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id j5INKnJL080599 for ; Sat, 18 Jun 2005 23:20:49 GMT (envelope-from nobody@www.freebsd.org) Received: (from nobody@localhost) by www.freebsd.org (8.13.1/8.13.1/Submit) id j5INKn2u080598; Sat, 18 Jun 2005 23:20:49 GMT (envelope-from nobody) Message-Id: <200506182320.j5INKn2u080598@www.freebsd.org> Date: Sat, 18 Jun 2005 23:20:49 GMT From: Ahmet Engin Karahan To: freebsd-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.org X-Send-Pr-Version: www-2.3 Cc: Subject: amd64/82399: MSI K8N Neo4 Platinium is not supported X-BeenThere: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the AMD64 platform List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 18 Jun 2005 23:30:09 -0000 >Number: 82399 >Category: amd64 >Synopsis: MSI K8N Neo4 Platinium is not supported >Confidential: no >Severity: non-critical >Priority: medium >Responsible: freebsd-amd64 >State: open >Quarter: >Keywords: >Date-Required: >Class: change-request >Submitter-Id: current-users >Arrival-Date: Sat Jun 18 23:30:08 GMT 2005 >Closed-Date: >Last-Modified: >Originator: Ahmet Engin Karahan >Release: I just would like to try it first time with a system on MSI K8N Neo4, AMD Athlon 64 socket 936 >Organization: na >Environment: >Description: >How-To-Repeat: >Fix: >Release-Note: >Audit-Trail: >Unformatted: