From owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 30 20:02:39 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9B1C316A4CE for ; Sun, 30 Jan 2005 20:02:39 +0000 (GMT) Received: from ns1.tiadon.com (SMTP.tiadon.com [69.27.132.161]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 185EE43D41 for ; Sun, 30 Jan 2005 20:02:39 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from kdk@daleco.biz) Received: from [69.27.131.0] ([69.27.131.0]) by ns1.tiadon.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.211); Sun, 30 Jan 2005 14:02:40 -0600 Message-ID: <41FD3D56.6060503@daleco.biz> Date: Sun, 30 Jan 2005 14:02:30 -0600 From: Kevin Kinsey User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.7.3) Gecko/20041210 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Carmen Chase References: <20050128201138.D438943D60@mx1.FreeBSD.org> In-Reply-To: <20050128201138.D438943D60@mx1.FreeBSD.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-OriginalArrivalTime: 30 Jan 2005 20:02:41.0040 (UTC) FILETIME=[A7722100:01C50706] cc: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Subject: Re: spanish language configurations & preferences X-BeenThere: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Non technical items related to the community List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 30 Jan 2005 20:02:39 -0000 Carmen Chase wrote: >Greetings and salutations from Argentina! > >We’re new to FreeBSD and would like to “HISPANIFY” our BSD system as much as >possible. Though my English is fairly fluent, my husband’s is marginal. > > > That's OK, of course. >For starters, replace the default American english manual (the one >accessible from shells) with one that describes commands in a standard >Spanish. > >2ndly, change system language preference to Spanish - ¿isn’t there a Env >table or something in there that can be configured? Doesn’t KDE auto-select >language based on some system preference table or something? > >3rdly, in as much as possible, change system prompts, messages etc… to >standard Spanish - ¿has anyone bothered yet? If so, leads or instructions >would be great. > Handbook Chapter 18 deals with some of the localization issues you mention. It would be a place to start. Note that FreeBSD documentation is available in Spanish under /usr/share/doc/es/. As for the manual pages, I don't know if that's possible. Well, I mean, it should be possible, but I don't know if translations of the manpages already exist; and furthermore, I'm not aware whether or not a system is in place to build the manpages in the alternate language. It's possible someone with more knowledge on the Doc Team (docs@freebsd.org) might have a better answer for you. Also, have you looked for Spanish-speaking FBSD User Groups online? >We understand that the kernel, shells, etc remain in standard American >computerese, he he he… - no problem there. > >On a dare we put BSD on a AMD K-6 PC which we put together from parts. It’s >been a successful experiment! > > Great! > >Any thoughts, suggestions, leads, hints, instructions would be greatly >appreciated. > >Attently, > >Carmen Chase > >P.D. I used to work on a UNIX terminal back in US many years ago. > > > That kinda cool ;-) Kevin Kinsey From owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Feb 1 15:29:33 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0940E16A4D3 for ; Tue, 1 Feb 2005 15:29:33 +0000 (GMT) Received: from bast.unixathome.org (bast.unixathome.org [66.11.174.150]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C28B643D2D for ; Tue, 1 Feb 2005 15:29:32 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from dan@langille.org) Received: from wocker (wocker.unixathome.org [192.168.0.99]) by bast.unixathome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1F7E73D37; Tue, 1 Feb 2005 10:29:31 -0500 (EST) From: "Dan Langille" To: Ulf Zimmermann Date: Tue, 01 Feb 2005 10:27:28 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: <41FF5990.14802.4B422A7D@localhost> Priority: normal In-reply-to: <20050125194352.GK99125@seven.alameda.net> References: <41F65A6A.23011.281B9A2A@localhost> X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (4.21c) Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-description: Mail message body cc: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Subject: Re: authenticating users between websites X-BeenThere: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Non technical items related to the community List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 01 Feb 2005 15:29:33 -0000 On 25 Jan 2005 at 11:43, Ulf Zimmermann wrote: > On Tue, Jan 25, 2005 at 02:40:42PM -0500, Dan Langille wrote: > > I'm getting this request often and I'm not sure how to solve it. A > > client will have two websites and wants users to be able to browse > > freely between the websites after having logged into the primary > > website. > > > > For example, I browse to a.example.org, log in, and continue > > browsing. Then I browse over to b.example.org.... How can I be > > automagically be authenticated on that other website? > > > > cheers > > -- > > Dan Langille : http://www.langille.org/ > > BSDCan - The Technical BSD Conference - http://www.bsdcan.org/ > > If both sites are part of the same, you can set a cookie based on the > domain. That is how sites usual do it. If you are concerned about > someone modifying the cookie local on the client side, keep also some > information about the cookie in a database which can be accessed by > both sites. Unfortunately, I've just been informed: the two websites won't even be in the same domain. This complicates matters. :) -- Dan Langille : http://www.langille.org/ BSDCan - The Technical BSD Conference - http://www.bsdcan.org/ From owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Feb 4 19:25:11 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B969416A4CE for ; Fri, 4 Feb 2005 19:25:11 +0000 (GMT) Received: from troutmask.apl.washington.edu (troutmask.apl.washington.edu [128.208.78.105]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 88F0C43D53 for ; Fri, 4 Feb 2005 19:25:11 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from sgk@troutmask.apl.washington.edu) Received: from troutmask.apl.washington.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) j14JPBHd084393 for ; Fri, 4 Feb 2005 11:25:11 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from sgk@troutmask.apl.washington.edu) Received: (from sgk@localhost)j14JPBC1084392 for freebsd-chat@freebsd.org; Fri, 4 Feb 2005 11:25:11 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from sgk) Date: Fri, 4 Feb 2005 11:25:11 -0800 From: Steve Kargl To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20050204192511.GA84359@troutmask.apl.washington.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Subject: the value of a journal filesystem? X-BeenThere: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Non technical items related to the community List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 04 Feb 2005 19:25:11 -0000 I'm not sure if this is a ext2fs, ext3fs, or reiserfs, but the 2nd paragraph is somewhat ominious. The notice does statement whether the damaged filesystems are on other disks or on disks in other machines (ie. nfs mounted). -- steve ----- Forwarded message from do-not-reply@ecoscentric.com ----- From: do-not-reply@ecoscentric.com X-Accept-Language: en-gb, en, en-us To: sourceware users Subject: Outage of gcc.gnu.org / sourceware.org / sources.redhat.com Date: Fri, 4 Feb 2005 05:16:07 +0000 (GMT) X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.0.1 (2004-10-22) on troutmask.apl.washington.edu X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.4 required=3.0 tests=BAYES_05,NO_REAL_NAME autolearn=no version=3.0.1 sourceware.org, also known as sources.redhat.com, also known as gcc.gnu.org, also known as ecos.sourceware.org is down at the moment due to a failed disk. Unfortunately the failure caused significant filesystem corruption, even though that shouldn't have happened. As a result, sourceware will be down for some time longer. The sourceware overseers and Red Hat sysadmins are working hard to bring it back up. The disk has been replaced and the filesystems are about to be restored from backups, although we are still trying to see if there's any way to recover the filesystem data. We will send another notice when it comes back, so sit tight and watch this space. If there are any questions, e-mail Yours, The sourceware overseers ----- End forwarded message ----- -- Steve From owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Feb 5 02:45:56 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A21DA16A4CE for ; Sat, 5 Feb 2005 02:45:56 +0000 (GMT) Received: from julesburg.uits.indiana.edu (julesburg.uits.indiana.edu [129.79.1.75]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 26BAD43D3F for ; Sat, 5 Feb 2005 02:45:56 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from dmschei@attglobal.net) Received: from mail-relay.iu.edu (logchain.uits.indiana.edu [129.79.1.77]) j152jpsU005307; Fri, 4 Feb 2005 21:45:51 -0500 (EST) Received: from [10.0.1.4] (scheidt-rout.canopy.nd.edu [129.74.98.169] (may be forged)) (authenticated bits=0)j152jqsY028991; Fri, 4 Feb 2005 21:45:53 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <42043360.7040207@attglobal.net> Date: Fri, 04 Feb 2005 21:45:52 -0500 From: David Scheidt User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (X11/20050102) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Steve Kargl References: <20050204192511.GA84359@troutmask.apl.washington.edu> In-Reply-To: <20050204192511.GA84359@troutmask.apl.washington.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Subject: Re: the value of a journal filesystem? X-BeenThere: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Non technical items related to the community List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 05 Feb 2005 02:45:56 -0000 Steve Kargl wrote: > I'm not sure if this is a ext2fs, ext3fs, or reiserfs, but > the 2nd paragraph is somewhat ominious. The notice does > statement whether the damaged filesystems are on other > disks or on disks in other machines (ie. nfs mounted). > I'd suggest that it points out the value of a good, tested, known to work recovery plan, that people actually know how to use. A machine going up in smoke shouldn't require an outage longer than the time it takes to replace the hardware, install an os, and restore from the backup media. Having to muck around trying to figure out how to get stuff off tape is no fun. Having to do it while the boss is screaming at you is less fun. Backup is easy. Backup is usually done well enough (if it's done at all, but only idiots don't). Recovery is much harder, much less likely to have been tested properly, much less likely to be documented outside the head of the guy who sort of though about it, and much less likely to be practiced. David From owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Feb 5 10:15:43 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0235616A4CE for ; Sat, 5 Feb 2005 10:15:43 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mailout.zetnet.co.uk (mailout.zetnet.co.uk [194.247.47.231]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7DBFA43D2F for ; Sat, 5 Feb 2005 10:15:42 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from frank@esperance-linux.co.uk) Received: from irwell.zetnet.co.uk ([194.247.47.48] helo=zetnet.co.uk) by mailout.zetnet.co.uk with esmtp (Exim 3.36 #1 (Debian)) id 1CxMyb-0005tQ-00 for ; Sat, 05 Feb 2005 10:15:41 +0000 Received: from esperance.zetnet.co.uk (bts-0070.dialup.zetnet.co.uk [194.247.48.70])j15AFdfx015468 for ; Sat, 5 Feb 2005 10:15:40 GMT Received: (qmail 35356 invoked by uid 1001); 5 Feb 2005 10:14:29 -0000 From: "Frank Shute" Date: Sat, 5 Feb 2005 10:14:29 +0000 To: Steve Kargl Message-ID: <20050205101429.GA35168@peach.veggie.com> Mail-Followup-To: Steve Kargl , freebsd-chat@freebsd.org References: <20050204192511.GA84359@troutmask.apl.washington.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20050204192511.GA84359@troutmask.apl.washington.edu> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 4.11-PRERELEASE i386 X-Organisation: 'Esperance Linux' cc: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Subject: Re: the value of a journal filesystem? X-BeenThere: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Frank Shute List-Id: Non technical items related to the community List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 05 Feb 2005 10:15:43 -0000 On Fri, Feb 04, 2005 at 11:25:11AM -0800, Steve Kargl wrote: > > [filesystem corruption at sources.redhat.com] > > I'm not sure if this is a ext2fs, ext3fs, or reiserfs, but > the 2nd paragraph is somewhat ominious. The notice does > statement whether the damaged filesystems are on other > disks or on disks in other machines (ie. nfs mounted). Red Hat has shipped with ext3 since about RH7, so my money would be on that. I used it some years ago and it seemed to be pretty robust although rather slow. I can't remember reading about corruption issues (I stand to be corrected though). Difficult to speculate as to what happened. I hope they do an analysis of some sort and publish. Red Hat customers will want to know under what circumstances an "enterprise OS" seemingly failed and then took so long to come back up. Not that I'm a customer or likely to be but a bit of transparency from a vendor is a good thing. -- Frank print "f r a n k @ e s p e r a n c e - l i n u x . c o . u k" | sed 's/ //g' --->PGP keyID: 0x10BD6F4B<--- From owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Feb 5 15:20:35 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2A18016A4CE for ; Sat, 5 Feb 2005 15:20:35 +0000 (GMT) Received: from shrike.submonkey.net (cpc2-cdif3-6-0-cust204.cdif.cable.ntl.com [81.103.67.204]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C261B43D3F for ; Sat, 5 Feb 2005 15:20:34 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ceri@submonkey.net) Received: from mini.private.submonkey.net ([192.168.10.11]) by shrike.submonkey.net with esmtp (Exim 4.44 (FreeBSD)) id 1CxRjb-0005I0-O1 for chat@FreeBSD.org; Sat, 05 Feb 2005 15:20:33 +0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v619.2) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <1edca0513c3ef8b460c915b6fff6c551@submonkey.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed To: chat@FreeBSD.org From: Ceri Davies Date: Sat, 5 Feb 2005 15:20:29 +0000 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.619.2) Subject: [OT]: Gmail X-BeenThere: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Non technical items related to the community List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 05 Feb 2005 15:20:35 -0000 I seem to have 50 Gmail invites. If anybody wants one, drop me a line. Ceri From owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Feb 5 17:31:20 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 682D716A4CE for ; Sat, 5 Feb 2005 17:31:20 +0000 (GMT) Received: from cyrus.watson.org (cyrus.watson.org [204.156.12.53]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 227B743D49 for ; Sat, 5 Feb 2005 17:31:20 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from robert@fledge.watson.org) Received: from fledge.watson.org (fledge.watson.org [204.156.12.50]) by cyrus.watson.org (Postfix) with SMTP id A7EC546B8D; Sat, 5 Feb 2005 12:31:19 -0500 (EST) Date: Sat, 5 Feb 2005 17:30:26 +0000 (GMT) From: Robert Watson X-Sender: robert@fledge.watson.org To: Steve Kargl In-Reply-To: <20050204192511.GA84359@troutmask.apl.washington.edu> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII cc: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Subject: Re: the value of a journal filesystem? X-BeenThere: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Non technical items related to the community List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 05 Feb 2005 17:31:20 -0000 On Fri, 4 Feb 2005, Steve Kargl wrote: > I'm not sure if this is a ext2fs, ext3fs, or reiserfs, but the 2nd > paragraph is somewhat ominious. The notice does statement whether the > damaged filesystems are on other disks or on disks in other machines > (ie. nfs mounted). Journalling, as with Soft Updates, relies on generally correct operation of the media (i.e., changes are written or not, etc), and is intended to protect only against "fail stop" failure modes. Handling media failure is generally a task for RAID arrays, which are intended to mask corruption by coercing corruption to "fail stop" on the media. So the interesting question here would be: did their RAID not protect them? Or did they not have RAID? Robert N M Watson > > -- > steve > > ----- Forwarded message from do-not-reply@ecoscentric.com ----- > > From: do-not-reply@ecoscentric.com > X-Accept-Language: en-gb, en, en-us > To: sourceware users > Subject: Outage of gcc.gnu.org / sourceware.org / sources.redhat.com > Date: Fri, 4 Feb 2005 05:16:07 +0000 (GMT) > X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.0.1 (2004-10-22) on > troutmask.apl.washington.edu > X-Spam-Level: > X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.4 required=3.0 tests=BAYES_05,NO_REAL_NAME > autolearn=no version=3.0.1 > > sourceware.org, also known as sources.redhat.com, also known as > gcc.gnu.org, also known as ecos.sourceware.org is down at the moment due to > a failed disk. > > Unfortunately the failure caused significant filesystem corruption, even > though that shouldn't have happened. As a result, sourceware will be down > for some time longer. The sourceware overseers and Red Hat sysadmins are > working hard to bring it back up. The disk has been replaced and the > filesystems are about to be restored from backups, although we are still > trying to see if there's any way to recover the filesystem data. > > We will send another notice when it comes back, so sit tight and watch this > space. If there are any questions, e-mail > > Yours, > > The sourceware overseers > > ----- End forwarded message ----- > > -- > Steve > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-chat@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-chat > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-chat-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Feb 5 17:40:59 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A0E2016A4CE; Sat, 5 Feb 2005 17:40:59 +0000 (GMT) Received: from troutmask.apl.washington.edu (troutmask.apl.washington.edu [128.208.78.105]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 740C443D2F; Sat, 5 Feb 2005 17:40:59 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from sgk@troutmask.apl.washington.edu) Received: from troutmask.apl.washington.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) j15Hexi5091401; Sat, 5 Feb 2005 09:40:59 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from sgk@troutmask.apl.washington.edu) Received: (from sgk@localhost)j15HexpN091400; Sat, 5 Feb 2005 09:40:59 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from sgk) Date: Sat, 5 Feb 2005 09:40:59 -0800 From: Steve Kargl To: Robert Watson Message-ID: <20050205174059.GA91377@troutmask.apl.washington.edu> References: <20050204192511.GA84359@troutmask.apl.washington.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i cc: freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: the value of a journal filesystem? X-BeenThere: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Non technical items related to the community List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 05 Feb 2005 17:40:59 -0000 On Sat, Feb 05, 2005 at 05:30:26PM +0000, Robert Watson wrote: > > On Fri, 4 Feb 2005, Steve Kargl wrote: > > > I'm not sure if this is a ext2fs, ext3fs, or reiserfs, but the 2nd > > paragraph is somewhat ominious. The notice does statement whether the > > damaged filesystems are on other disks or on disks in other machines > > (ie. nfs mounted). > > Journalling, as with Soft Updates, relies on generally correct operation > of the media (i.e., changes are written or not, etc), and is intended to > protect only against "fail stop" failure modes. Handling media failure is > generally a task for RAID arrays, which are intended to mask corruption by > coercing corruption to "fail stop" on the media. So the interesting > question here would be: did their RAID not protect them? Or did they not > have RAID? > >From what I've read, redhat replaced a dead disk in a raid array with a new disk and started a recovery phase. During recovery, the filesystems were corrupted. I have not been able to find any info on what hardware controller redhat uses (or used :). gcc.gnu.org has been down for 72+ hours, which seems like a very long time for such an important site. -- Steve From owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Feb 5 17:59:32 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D25DA16A4CE for ; Sat, 5 Feb 2005 17:59:32 +0000 (GMT) Received: from pd2mo3so.prod.shaw.ca (shawidc-mo1.cg.shawcable.net [24.71.223.10]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 92A6143D2D for ; Sat, 5 Feb 2005 17:59:32 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from flowers@users.sourceforge.net) Received: from pd2mr5so.prod.shaw.ca (pd2mr5so-qfe3.prod.shaw.ca [10.0.141.8]) by l-daemon (Sun ONE Messaging Server 6.0 HotFix 1.01 (built Mar 15 2004)) with ESMTP id <0IBG00IBA9Z8FS10@l-daemon> for freebsd-chat@freebsd.org; Sat, 05 Feb 2005 10:59:32 -0700 (MST) Received: from pn2ml7so.prod.shaw.ca ([10.0.121.151]) by pd2mr5so.prod.shaw.ca (Sun ONE Messaging Server 6.0 HotFix 1.01 (built Mar 15 2004)) with ESMTP id <0IBG005739Z83Q30@pd2mr5so.prod.shaw.ca> for freebsd-chat@freebsd.org; Sat, 05 Feb 2005 10:59:32 -0700 (MST) Received: from procyon.nekulturny.org (S0106000c41b2b9a3.cg.shawcable.net [68.144.45.143]) by l-daemon (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.18 (built Jul 28 2003)) with ESMTP id <0IBG00K0T9Z76P@l-daemon> for freebsd-chat@freebsd.org; Sat, 05 Feb 2005 10:59:32 -0700 (MST) Date: Sat, 05 Feb 2005 10:59:31 -0700 From: Danny MacMillan In-reply-to: <41FF5990.14802.4B422A7D@localhost> To: Dan Langille Message-id: <20050205175931.GA680@procyon.nekulturny.org> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-disposition: inline References: <41F65A6A.23011.281B9A2A@localhost> <41FF5990.14802.4B422A7D@localhost> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.6i cc: Ulf Zimmermann cc: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Subject: Re: authenticating users between websites X-BeenThere: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Non technical items related to the community List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 05 Feb 2005 17:59:32 -0000 On Tue, Feb 01, 2005 at 10:27:28AM -0500, Dan Langille wrote: > On 25 Jan 2005 at 11:43, Ulf Zimmermann wrote: > > On Tue, Jan 25, 2005 at 02:40:42PM -0500, Dan Langille wrote: > > > I'm getting this request often and I'm not sure how to solve it. A > > > client will have two websites and wants users to be able to browse > > > freely between the websites after having logged into the primary > > > website. > > > > > > For example, I browse to a.example.org, log in, and continue > > > browsing. Then I browse over to b.example.org.... How can I be > > > automagically be authenticated on that other website? > > > > > > cheers > > > > If both sites are part of the same, you can set a cookie based on the > > domain. That is how sites usual do it. If you are concerned about > > someone modifying the cookie local on the client side, keep also some > > information about the cookie in a database which can be accessed by > > both sites. > > Unfortunately, I've just been informed: the two websites won't even > be in the same domain. This complicates matters. :) There are Single Sign-On solutions like SiteMinder and WebSeal. There are probably open source solutions, too. -- Danny From owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Feb 5 18:07:04 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BF60216A4CE for ; Sat, 5 Feb 2005 18:07:04 +0000 (GMT) Received: from www.ninjabucket.com (ninjabucket.com [65.174.56.20]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 15A5043D2F for ; Sat, 5 Feb 2005 18:07:04 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from aaron@snaphat.com) Received: from snaphat.com (pcp01483743pcs.frncht01.de.comcast.net [68.82.65.116]) by www.ninjabucket.com (8.13.3/8.13.1) with ESMTP id j15I72vP050625 for ; Sat, 5 Feb 2005 13:07:02 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from aaron@snaphat.com) Received: from [192.168.100.49] (localhost [192.168.100.49]) by snaphat.com (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id j15I6oIu050032 for ; Sat, 5 Feb 2005 13:06:50 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from aaron@snaphat.com) Message-ID: <42050B3A.7060304@snaphat.com> Date: Sat, 05 Feb 2005 13:06:50 -0500 From: Aaron Myles Landwehr User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (Windows/20041206) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org References: <20050204192511.GA84359@troutmask.apl.washington.edu> In-Reply-To: <20050204192511.GA84359@troutmask.apl.washington.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV version 0.81, clamav-milter version 0.81b on snaphat.com X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.8 required=5.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED autolearn=failed version=3.0.2 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.0.2 (2004-11-16) on snaphat.com Subject: Re: the value of a journal filesystem? X-BeenThere: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Non technical items related to the community List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 05 Feb 2005 18:07:04 -0000 >sourceware.org, also known as sources.redhat.com, also known as >gcc.gnu.org, also known as ecos.sourceware.org is down at the moment due to >a failed disk. > Also known as cygwin.com? -Aaron Myles Landwehr From owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Feb 5 18:22:17 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 48C6E16A4CE for ; Sat, 5 Feb 2005 18:22:17 +0000 (GMT) Received: from unsane.co.uk (unsane.co.uk [62.140.220.90]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8434443D4C for ; Sat, 5 Feb 2005 18:22:16 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jhary@unsane.co.uk) Received: from unsane.co.uk (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by unsane.co.uk (8.13.3/8.13.3) with ESMTP id j15IMOt2067574 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Sat, 5 Feb 2005 18:22:25 GMT (envelope-from jhary@unsane.co.uk) Received: from localhost (jhary@localhost) by unsane.co.uk (8.13.3/8.13.3/Submit) with ESMTP id j15IMOka067571 for ; Sat, 5 Feb 2005 18:22:24 GMT (envelope-from jhary@unsane.co.uk) Date: Sat, 5 Feb 2005 18:22:24 +0000 (GMT) From: Vince Hoffman To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <42050B3A.7060304@snaphat.com> Message-ID: <20050205182014.P32111@unsane.co.uk> References: <20050204192511.GA84359@troutmask.apl.washington.edu> <42050B3A.7060304@snaphat.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Subject: Re: the value of a journal filesystem? X-BeenThere: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Non technical items related to the community List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 05 Feb 2005 18:22:17 -0000 On Sat, 5 Feb 2005, Aaron Myles Landwehr wrote: > >> sourceware.org, also known as sources.redhat.com, also known as >> gcc.gnu.org, also known as ecos.sourceware.org is down at the moment due to >> a failed disk. >> > Also known as cygwin.com? > -Aaron Myles Landwehr Indeed, thus the cygwin mailing list being so quiet. I thought that was unusual. Vince > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-chat@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-chat > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-chat-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" >