From owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Sep 20 15:32:12 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 570BB16A41F for ; Tue, 20 Sep 2005 15:32:12 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jev@ecad.org) Received: from mail.emmplus.ie (mail.emmplus.ie [66.154.97.148]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E126D43D48 for ; Tue, 20 Sep 2005 15:32:11 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jev@ecad.org) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.emmplus.ie (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9823215D3B; Tue, 20 Sep 2005 16:31:55 +0100 (IST) Received: from mail.emmplus.ie ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (cohiba.emmplus.ie [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 68745-04; Tue, 20 Sep 2005 16:31:55 +0100 (IST) Received: from [192.168.0.105] (metro.digifonica.com [204.244.149.125]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.emmplus.ie (Postfix) with ESMTP id 28125A1218; Tue, 20 Sep 2005 16:31:55 +0100 (IST) Message-ID: <43302B11.50700@ecad.org> Date: Tue, 20 Sep 2005 08:30:25 -0700 From: Jev User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.6 (X11/20050906) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at emmplus.ie Subject: FreeBSD Users/Admins in Shenzhen China?? 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If you are experiencing problems with the termination process please call the following number: (623) 321-1223 (List Code: WEG) WEG, Inc. 20423 State Road 7, S-6511 Boca Raton, FL 33498 From owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Sep 23 21:27:11 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3E27616A41F for ; Fri, 23 Sep 2005 21:27:11 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from reed@pilchuck.reedmedia.net) Received: from pilchuck.reedmedia.net (pilchuck.reedmedia.net [209.166.74.74]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A941643D46 for ; Fri, 23 Sep 2005 21:27:10 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from reed@pilchuck.reedmedia.net) Received: from reed by pilchuck.reedmedia.net with local (Exim 4.44) id 1EIv4X-0001YO-GT for freebsd-chat@freebsd.org; Fri, 23 Sep 2005 14:27:09 -0700 Date: Fri, 23 Sep 2005 14:27:09 -0700 (PDT) From: "Jeremy C. Reed" To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Sender: "Jeremy C. Reed" Subject: torrents for FreeBSD ISOs? X-BeenThere: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Non technical items related to the community List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 23 Sep 2005 21:27:11 -0000 Are there any active torrents for FreeBSD ISOs? I used torrent file as found via FreeBSD 5.4 announcement. But for over 30 minutes ctorrent timed out attempting to retrieve it. I had used it with great success and speed in May. Jeremy C. Reed From owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Sep 24 16:30:25 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2F9CB16A41F for ; Sat, 24 Sep 2005 16:30:25 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from freebsd-chat-local@be-well.ilk.org) Received: from mail26.sea5.speakeasy.net (mail26.sea5.speakeasy.net [69.17.117.28]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DE46143D48 for ; Sat, 24 Sep 2005 16:30:24 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from freebsd-chat-local@be-well.ilk.org) Received: (qmail 4104 invoked from network); 24 Sep 2005 16:30:24 -0000 Received: from dsl092-078-145.bos1.dsl.speakeasy.net (HELO be-well.ilk.org) ([66.92.78.145]) (envelope-sender ) by mail26.sea5.speakeasy.net (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for ; 24 Sep 2005 16:30:24 -0000 Received: by be-well.ilk.org (Postfix, from userid 1147) id 0F23836; Sat, 24 Sep 2005 12:30:20 -0400 (EDT) Sender: lowell@be-well.ilk.org To: "Jeremy C. Reed" References: From: Lowell Gilbert Date: 24 Sep 2005 12:30:20 -0400 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <44d5my1l9f.fsf@be-well.ilk.org> Lines: 13 User-Agent: Gnus/5.09 (Gnus v5.9.0) Emacs/21.3 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Cc: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Subject: Re: torrents for FreeBSD ISOs? X-BeenThere: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Non technical items related to the community List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 24 Sep 2005 16:30:25 -0000 "Jeremy C. Reed" writes: > Are there any active torrents for FreeBSD ISOs? > > I used torrent file as found via FreeBSD 5.4 announcement. But for > over 30 minutes ctorrent timed out attempting to retrieve it. > > I had used it with great success and speed in May. Torrents are really only useful for files that a lot of people want to download at the same time. There's just no reason to keep it going now. [Not that I have any specific knowledge about whether the seeder is still running.] From owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Sep 24 17:10:22 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0BAA716A41F for ; Sat, 24 Sep 2005 17:10:22 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from reed@pilchuck.reedmedia.net) Received: from pilchuck.reedmedia.net (pilchuck.reedmedia.net [209.166.74.74]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A82E543D48 for ; Sat, 24 Sep 2005 17:10:21 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from reed@pilchuck.reedmedia.net) Received: from reed by pilchuck.reedmedia.net with local (Exim 4.44) id 1EJDXZ-0004SC-DD; Sat, 24 Sep 2005 10:10:21 -0700 Date: Sat, 24 Sep 2005 10:10:21 -0700 (PDT) From: "Jeremy C. Reed" To: Lowell Gilbert In-Reply-To: <44d5my1l9f.fsf@be-well.ilk.org> Message-ID: References: <44d5my1l9f.fsf@be-well.ilk.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Sender: "Jeremy C. Reed" Cc: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Subject: Re: torrents for FreeBSD ISOs? X-BeenThere: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Non technical items related to the community List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 24 Sep 2005 17:10:22 -0000 On Sat, 24 Sep 2005, Lowell Gilbert wrote: >> Are there any active torrents for FreeBSD ISOs? >> >> I used torrent file as found via FreeBSD 5.4 announcement. But for >> over 30 minutes ctorrent timed out attempting to retrieve it. >> >> I had used it with great success and speed in May. > > Torrents are really only useful for files that a lot of people want to > download at the same time. There's just no reason to keep it going now. > [Not that I have any specific knowledge about whether the seeder is > still running.] Thanks for the response. That is what I was thinking. I am teaching a class and hoped to cover version 6.0 but when 6.0-BETA4-i386-bootonly.iso failed on my laptop due to some vr0 LOR error (I found was already known[1] but not in a PR and I don't know if it is fixed), I realized that I shouldn't use it since I can't test the hardware in my classroom ahead of time. And I read that 5.5 was to be released in September but no other news. So decided to download 5.4 release again. Anyways, I got the ISO after an hour or so. Maybe FreeBSD could provide torrent "servers" that are always running just in case that someone attempts it? (I don't know a lot about torrent though, but I assume that that is doable.) Jeremy C. Reed http://www.reedmedia.net/ [1] http://sources.zabbadoz.net/freebsd/lor.html From owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Sep 24 18:43:58 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 99DC916A41F for ; Sat, 24 Sep 2005 18:43:58 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from WD@US-Webmasters.com) Received: from usw2.natel.net (2b.bz [209.152.117.190]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 26DCE43D48 for ; Sat, 24 Sep 2005 18:43:57 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from WD@US-Webmasters.com) Received: (qmail 4100 invoked from network); 24 Sep 2005 18:43:54 -0000 Received: from batv-01-192.dsl.netins.net (HELO Htebazile.US-Webmasters.com) (207.199.193.192) by us-webmasters.com with SMTP; 24 Sep 2005 18:43:54 -0000 Message-Id: <5.1.0.14.2.20050924134246.05678430@209.152.117.178> X-Sender: wd@209.152.117.178 X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Sat, 24 Sep 2005 13:43:18 -0500 To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org From: "W. D." In-Reply-To: References: <44d5my1l9f.fsf@be-well.ilk.org> <44d5my1l9f.fsf@be-well.ilk.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: Subject: Re: torrents for FreeBSD ISOs? X-BeenThere: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Non technical items related to the community List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 24 Sep 2005 18:43:58 -0000 At 12:10 9/24/2005, Jeremy C. Reed, wrote: >On Sat, 24 Sep 2005, Lowell Gilbert wrote: > >>> Are there any active torrents for FreeBSD ISOs? >>> >>> I used torrent file as found via FreeBSD 5.4 announcement. But for >>> over 30 minutes ctorrent timed out attempting to retrieve it. >>> >>> I had used it with great success and speed in May. >> >> Torrents are really only useful for files that a lot of people want to >> download at the same time. There's just no reason to keep it going now. >> [Not that I have any specific knowledge about whether the seeder is >> still running.] > >Thanks for the response. That is what I was thinking. > >I am teaching a class and hoped to cover version 6.0 but when=20 >6.0-BETA4-i386-bootonly.iso failed on my laptop due to some vr0 LOR error= =20 >(I found was already known[1] but not in a PR and I don't know if it is=20 >fixed), I realized that I shouldn't use it since I can't test the hardware= =20 >in my classroom ahead of time. > >And I read that 5.5 was to be released in September but no other news. So= =20 >decided to download 5.4 release again. Anyways, I got the ISO after an=20 >hour or so. > >Maybe FreeBSD could provide torrent "servers" that are always running just= =20 >in case that someone attempts it? (I don't know a lot about torrent=20 >though, but I assume that that is doable.) http://isohunt.com/torrents.php?ihq=3Dfreebsd&ext=3D&op=3Dand Start Here to Find It Fast!=99 ->= http://www.US-Webmasters.com/best-start-page/ $8.77 Domain Names -> http://domains.us-webmasters.com/ From owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Sep 24 18:46:03 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 90CDC16A41F for ; Sat, 24 Sep 2005 18:46:03 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from freebsd-chat-local@be-well.ilk.org) Received: from mail25.sea5.speakeasy.net (mail25.sea5.speakeasy.net [69.17.117.27]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 431C743D48 for ; Sat, 24 Sep 2005 18:46:03 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from freebsd-chat-local@be-well.ilk.org) Received: (qmail 9409 invoked from network); 24 Sep 2005 18:46:01 -0000 Received: from dsl092-078-145.bos1.dsl.speakeasy.net (HELO be-well.ilk.org) ([66.92.78.145]) (envelope-sender ) by mail25.sea5.speakeasy.net (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for ; 24 Sep 2005 18:46:01 -0000 Received: by be-well.ilk.org (Postfix, from userid 1147) id A789F36; Sat, 24 Sep 2005 14:46:00 -0400 (EDT) Sender: lowell@be-well.ilk.org To: "Jeremy C. Reed" References: <44d5my1l9f.fsf@be-well.ilk.org> From: Lowell Gilbert Date: 24 Sep 2005 14:46:00 -0400 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <44psqyz4lz.fsf@be-well.ilk.org> Lines: 48 User-Agent: Gnus/5.09 (Gnus v5.9.0) Emacs/21.3 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Cc: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Subject: Re: torrents for FreeBSD ISOs? X-BeenThere: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Non technical items related to the community List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 24 Sep 2005 18:46:03 -0000 "Jeremy C. Reed" writes: > On Sat, 24 Sep 2005, Lowell Gilbert wrote: > > >> Are there any active torrents for FreeBSD ISOs? > >> > >> I used torrent file as found via FreeBSD 5.4 announcement. But for > >> over 30 minutes ctorrent timed out attempting to retrieve it. > >> > >> I had used it with great success and speed in May. > > > > Torrents are really only useful for files that a lot of people want to > > download at the same time. There's just no reason to keep it going now. > > [Not that I have any specific knowledge about whether the seeder is > > still running.] > > Thanks for the response. That is what I was thinking. > > I am teaching a class and hoped to cover version 6.0 but when > 6.0-BETA4-i386-bootonly.iso failed on my laptop due to some vr0 LOR > error (I found was already known[1] but not in a PR and I don't know > if it is fixed), I realized that I shouldn't use it since I can't test > the hardware in my classroom ahead of time. Regardless of which release you are using, you really want to test on the target hardware ahead of time. > And I read that 5.5 was to be released in September but no other > news. It's been delayed because 6.0 is delayed. There aren't enough release engineers to work on both releases at once. > So decided to download 5.4 release again. Anyways, I got the ISO > after an hour or so. I would expect an academic to have pretty good connectivity. Sounds like it. > Maybe FreeBSD could provide torrent "servers" that are always running > just in case that someone attempts it? (I don't know a lot about > torrent though, but I assume that that is doable.) It is certainly possible. Bear in mind, though, that the torrents for the releases are still an experimental distribution mechanism. And for a *single* downloader, FTP is faster than Bittorrent, so even if the torrent were still running, you would have been better off with conventional downloading techniques. From owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Sep 24 23:43:15 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EFA4416A41F for ; Sat, 24 Sep 2005 23:43:15 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from reed@pilchuck.reedmedia.net) Received: from pilchuck.reedmedia.net (pilchuck.reedmedia.net [209.166.74.74]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 93BF643D48 for ; Sat, 24 Sep 2005 23:43:15 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from reed@pilchuck.reedmedia.net) Received: from reed by pilchuck.reedmedia.net with local (Exim 4.44) id 1EJJfn-00040z-JC for freebsd-chat@freebsd.org; Sat, 24 Sep 2005 16:43:15 -0700 Date: Sat, 24 Sep 2005 16:43:15 -0700 (PDT) From: "Jeremy C. Reed" To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <44psqyz4lz.fsf@be-well.ilk.org> Message-ID: References: <44d5my1l9f.fsf@be-well.ilk.org> <44psqyz4lz.fsf@be-well.ilk.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Sender: "Jeremy C. Reed" Subject: Re: torrents for FreeBSD ISOs? X-BeenThere: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Non technical items related to the community List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 24 Sep 2005 23:43:16 -0000 On Sat, 24 Sep 2005, Lowell Gilbert wrote: >> I am teaching a class and hoped to cover version 6.0 but when >> 6.0-BETA4-i386-bootonly.iso failed on my laptop due to some vr0 LOR >> error (I found was already known[1] but not in a PR and I don't know >> if it is fixed), I realized that I shouldn't use it since I can't test >> the hardware in my classroom ahead of time. > > Regardless of which release you are using, you really want to test on > the target hardware ahead of time. Not very easy. I can't expect the facility to test for me since they don't know the first thing about FreeBSD and it would be time consuming to do remotely. And I am over 1500 miles away. I feel comfortable with 5.4-RELEASE. I have taught over 14 classes covering FreeBSD 4.x through 5.x and don't have opportunity to test in most cases. A few times, I have flown in earlier day and visit classroom and in a few cases companies/students have tested on their hardware ahead of time. Jeremy C. Reed technical support & remote administration http://www.pugetsoundtechnology.com/