From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Oct 9 03:20:18 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-doc@hub.freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@hub.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 80D6416A41F for ; Sun, 9 Oct 2005 03:20:18 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CE8BB43D46 for ; Sun, 9 Oct 2005 03:20:17 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (gnats@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.13.3/8.13.3) with ESMTP id j993KHht078429 for ; Sun, 9 Oct 2005 03:20:17 GMT (envelope-from gnats@freefall.freebsd.org) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.13.3/8.13.1/Submit) id j993KH1d078428; Sun, 9 Oct 2005 03:20:17 GMT (envelope-from gnats) Resent-Date: Sun, 9 Oct 2005 03:20:17 GMT Resent-Message-Id: <200510090320.j993KH1d078428@freefall.freebsd.org> Resent-From: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.org (GNATS Filer) Resent-To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Resent-Reply-To: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.org, Matthew Luckie Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 636B616A41F for ; Sun, 9 Oct 2005 03:18:51 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from nobody@FreeBSD.org) Received: from www.freebsd.org (www.freebsd.org [216.136.204.117]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 32EB343D45 for ; Sun, 9 Oct 2005 03:18:51 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from nobody@FreeBSD.org) Received: from www.freebsd.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by www.freebsd.org (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id j993Iof4037107 for ; Sun, 9 Oct 2005 03:18:50 GMT (envelope-from nobody@www.freebsd.org) Received: (from nobody@localhost) by www.freebsd.org (8.13.1/8.13.1/Submit) id j993IosR037106; Sun, 9 Oct 2005 03:18:50 GMT (envelope-from nobody) Message-Id: <200510090318.j993IosR037106@www.freebsd.org> Date: Sun, 9 Oct 2005 03:18:50 GMT From: Matthew Luckie To: freebsd-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.org X-Send-Pr-Version: www-2.3 Cc: Subject: docs/87147: [patch] src/share/man/man9/microtime.9 history correction X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 09 Oct 2005 03:20:18 -0000 >Number: 87147 >Category: docs >Synopsis: [patch] src/share/man/man9/microtime.9 history correction >Confidential: no >Severity: non-critical >Priority: low >Responsible: freebsd-doc >State: open >Quarter: >Keywords: >Date-Required: >Class: doc-bug >Submitter-Id: current-users >Arrival-Date: Sun Oct 09 03:20:17 GMT 2005 >Closed-Date: >Last-Modified: >Originator: Matthew Luckie >Release: 5.4, 6.0 >Organization: University of Waikato >Environment: FreeBSD sorcerer.cs.waikato.ac.nz 5.3-RELEASE-p10 FreeBSD 5.3-RELEASE-p10 #1: Wed Jun 15 15:01:09 NZST 2005 root@sorcerer.cs.waikato.ac.nz:/usr/src/sys/i386/compile/TSC_CLOCK i386 >Description: The microtime.9 manpage was modified in rev 1.8 (12 months ago) to include a description of the bintime function, which first appeared in FreeBSD 5.0. However, the history section now reads that the bintime function has been around since 4.4BSD. >How-To-Repeat: man 9 microtime, try and parse the history section. >Fix: --- microtime.9.orig Sun Oct 9 16:03:22 2005 +++ microtime.9 Sun Oct 9 16:05:46 2005 @@ -109,7 +109,7 @@ functions first appeared in .Fx 5.0 . The -.Nm +.Nm microtime and .Nm nanotime functions first appeared in >Release-Note: >Audit-Trail: >Unformatted: From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Oct 9 10:22:16 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D23C916A422 for ; Sun, 9 Oct 2005 10:22:16 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from itetcu@people.tecnik93.com) Received: from relay.rdsnet.ro (gimli.rdsnet.ro [193.231.236.70]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id B0B3343D49 for ; Sun, 9 Oct 2005 10:22:14 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from itetcu@people.tecnik93.com) Received: (qmail 18158 invoked from network); 9 Oct 2005 10:22:11 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO smtp.rdsnet.ro) (62.231.74.130) by smtp1-133.rdsnet.ro with SMTP; 9 Oct 2005 10:22:11 -0000 Received: (qmail 3703 invoked by uid 89); 9 Oct 2005 10:22:09 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO it.buh.tecnik93.com) (81.196.204.98) by 0 with SMTP; 9 Oct 2005 10:22:09 -0000 Received: from it.buh.tecnik93.com (localhost.buh.tecnik93.com [127.0.0.1]) by it.buh.tecnik93.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id CF161115F7; Sun, 9 Oct 2005 13:22:06 +0300 (EEST) Date: Sun, 9 Oct 2005 13:22:05 +0300 From: Ion-Mihai Tetcu To: Mark Linimon Message-ID: <20051009132205.6478a5fb@it.buh.tecnik93.com> In-Reply-To: <200510071804.j97I4jOD099219@freefall.freebsd.org> References: <200510071804.j97I4jOD099219@freefall.freebsd.org> X-Mailer: Sylpheed-Claws 1.9.12 (GTK+ 2.6.8; i386-portbld-freebsd5.4) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: linimon`@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org, linimon@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: docs/87073: New article: Maintaining and contributing to the FreeBSD Ports Collection X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 09 Oct 2005 10:22:16 -0000 On Fri, 7 Oct 2005 18:04:45 GMT Mark Linimon wrote: > Synopsis: New article: Maintaining and contributing to the FreeBSD > Ports Collection I find this to be a very interesting overview of a maintainer's work. Thanks Sam ! Maybe it would make sense to cross-reference this in both PH (as PH is a technical document, e.g. answer very detailed to how but doesn't give you as fast the big picture) and Ports chapter in Handbook (both to encourage people being maintainers and to provide some better understanding towards maintainers). -- IOnut Unregistered ;) FreeBSD "user" "Intellectual Property" is nowhere near as valuable as "Intellect" From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Oct 9 14:23:39 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 21F0216A41F for ; Sun, 9 Oct 2005 14:23:39 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from petruha@rulz.lv) Received: from mail.rulz.lv (mail.rulz.lv [159.148.95.112]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B1A8F43D45 for ; Sun, 9 Oct 2005 14:23:38 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from petruha@rulz.lv) Received: by mail.rulz.lv (unknown, from userid 1000) id D4F9C97A2; Sun, 9 Oct 2005 17:23:36 +0300 (EEST) Date: Sun, 9 Oct 2005 17:23:36 +0300 From: peter dunaskin To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20051009142336.GP6779@rulz.lv> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="zxEKvxCKojqA/Afl" Content-Disposition: inline X-Copyright: (c) peter dunaskin. forwarding not permitted. X-PGP-Key: http://petruha.rulz.lv/petruha.asc Subject: Latvian BSD mailinglist X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 09 Oct 2005 14:23:39 -0000 --zxEKvxCKojqA/Afl Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Hello, I wanted to inform you that there is Latvian BSD mailinglist available. It'd be nice to have it included in http://www.freebsd.org/community/mailinglists.html non-english mailing list section. WWW: http://lists.bsd.lv/ email: bsd-owner@lists.bsd.lv Thanks, p. --zxEKvxCKojqA/Afl Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.1 (OpenBSD) iD8DBQFDSSfoo/FsBm/0QEoRAlfdAJ4vhwhSqFJBDvyrWX1gMYhWY+EmzQCeMdNe zjhPvEvff9dySXA49ZlwyGE= =dmJN -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --zxEKvxCKojqA/Afl-- From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Oct 9 15:34:30 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8895716A41F; Sun, 9 Oct 2005 15:34:30 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from boris@brooknet.com.au) Received: from mailout1.pacific.net.au (mailout1.pacific.net.au [61.8.0.84]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C6B9943D67; Sun, 9 Oct 2005 15:34:22 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from boris@brooknet.com.au) Received: from mailproxy1.pacific.net.au (mailproxy1.pacific.net.au [61.8.0.86]) by mailout1.pacific.net.au (8.13.4/8.13.4/Debian-3) with ESMTP id j99FYL5G022842; Mon, 10 Oct 2005 01:34:21 +1000 Received: from dirk.no.domain (ppp2044.dyn.pacific.net.au [61.8.32.68]) by mailproxy1.pacific.net.au (8.13.4/8.13.4/Debian-3) with ESMTP id j99FYJCP023367; Mon, 10 Oct 2005 01:34:20 +1000 Date: Mon, 10 Oct 2005 01:35:07 +1000 From: Sam Lawrance To: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Message-ID: <20051010013507.64dd8cdd@dirk.no.domain> In-Reply-To: <200510071540.j97Fe9dg081272@freefall.freebsd.org> References: <20051007153212.5AF242283A@localhost> <200510071540.j97Fe9dg081272@freefall.freebsd.org> X-Mailer: Sylpheed-Claws 1.9.15 (GTK+ 2.6.10; i386-portbld-freebsd6.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Subject: Re: docs/87073: New article: Maintaing and contributing to the FreeBSD Ports Collection X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 09 Oct 2005 15:34:30 -0000 I have updated the shar and html preview. Changes: - wrap, indent and format according to FDP primer - included a number of small rewording suggestions from eivind http://people.freebsd.org/~lawrance/contributing-ports/article.html http://people.freebsd.org/~lawrance/contributing-ports/contributing-ports.sh From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Oct 9 16:59:52 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B67B216A41F for ; Sun, 9 Oct 2005 16:59:52 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from kambizzz@gmail.com) Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.201]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 53E5343D45 for ; Sun, 9 Oct 2005 16:59:52 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from kambizzz@gmail.com) Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id i20so495511wra for ; Sun, 09 Oct 2005 09:59:51 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:mime-version:content-type; b=YR7wf6jQ+oJpJB+lrFt640B4M9Ur1MYB0rd81COrJbcNnfmMSVcC+Yz9zP8k/72Piu1TmseG6xI5RXq0e91DNtXntoNeVoP/Ae/6FyE2iVLkCtanD7gM+HIp1hf/QfdPt7fc/beGK0hqP8l8RJSa+/dStRc7eVm+JEVrjhKJu9I= Received: by 10.54.99.18 with SMTP id w18mr3024845wrb; Sun, 09 Oct 2005 09:59:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.84.13 with HTTP; Sun, 9 Oct 2005 09:59:51 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Mon, 10 Oct 2005 00:59:51 +0800 From: Kambiz Agahian To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: Right-to-left Languages in FreeBSD docs X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Kambiz Agahian List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 09 Oct 2005 16:59:52 -0000 Hi friends, Could you please let me know whether or not there is any plan to support right-to-left languages in freebsd docs? especially in terms of fonts to be used there. Sincerely, From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Oct 9 17:01:05 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D11B616A41F; Sun, 9 Oct 2005 17:01:05 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from linimon@lonesome.com) Received: from mail.soaustin.net (mail.soaustin.net [207.200.4.66]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8E55143D49; Sun, 9 Oct 2005 17:01:05 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from linimon@lonesome.com) Received: by mail.soaustin.net (Postfix, from userid 502) id 38EF32E94; Sun, 9 Oct 2005 12:01:05 -0500 (CDT) Date: Sun, 9 Oct 2005 12:01:05 -0500 To: Ion-Mihai Tetcu Message-ID: <20051009170105.GE22643@soaustin.net> References: <200510071804.j97I4jOD099219@freefall.freebsd.org> <20051009132205.6478a5fb@it.buh.tecnik93.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20051009132205.6478a5fb@it.buh.tecnik93.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.9i From: linimon@lonesome.com (Mark Linimon) Cc: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org, Mark Linimon Subject: Re: docs/87073: New article: Maintaining and contributing to the FreeBSD Ports Collection X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 09 Oct 2005 17:01:06 -0000 On Sun, Oct 09, 2005 at 01:22:05PM +0300, Ion-Mihai Tetcu wrote: > Maybe it would make sense to cross-reference this in both PH (as PH is > a technical document, e.g. answer very detailed to how but doesn't give > you as fast the big picture) and Ports chapter in Handbook (both to > encourage people being maintainers and to provide some better > understanding towards maintainers). Absolutely. I think first I'll just try to get it committed so at least we can be referring people to it. After that I think we'll find things to tweak up in it, too. As has been discussed (possibly off-list) there's stuff in the PH that isn't technical and that stuff needs to go "somewhere" and then everything get cross-referenced. mcl From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Oct 9 17:06:31 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 92FC616A41F for ; Sun, 9 Oct 2005 17:06:31 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from remko@freebsd.org) Received: from caelis.elvandar.org (caelis.elvandar.org [217.148.169.59]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 35E9743D45 for ; Sun, 9 Oct 2005 17:06:31 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from remko@freebsd.org) Received: from localhost (caelis.elvandar.org [217.148.169.59]) by caelis.elvandar.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CC281930D21; Sun, 9 Oct 2005 19:06:27 +0200 (CEST) Received: from caelis.elvandar.org ([217.148.169.59]) by localhost (caelis.elvandar.org [217.148.169.59]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 56053-08; Sun, 9 Oct 2005 19:06:27 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <43494E21.4090709@FreeBSD.org> Date: Sun, 09 Oct 2005 19:06:41 +0200 From: Remko Lodder User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.6 (Windows/20050716) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: peter dunaskin References: <20051009142336.GP6779@rulz.lv> In-Reply-To: <20051009142336.GP6779@rulz.lv> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by the elvandar.org maildomain Cc: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Latvian BSD mailinglist X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 09 Oct 2005 17:06:31 -0000 peter dunaskin wrote: > Hello, > > I wanted to inform you that there is Latvian BSD mailinglist available. > It'd be nice to have it included in > http://www.freebsd.org/community/mailinglists.html non-english mailing > list section. > > WWW: http://lists.bsd.lv/ > email: bsd-owner@lists.bsd.lv > > Thanks, > p. Hi, I added you to the mailinglists moments ago. It should appear within 24 hours (After the next scheduled webbuild). Cheers! -- Kind regards, Remko Lodder ** remko@elvandar.org FreeBSD ** remko@FreeBSD.org Reporter DSINET ** remko@DSINet.org From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Oct 9 17:16:17 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-doc@hub.freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@hub.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 009C216A421; Sun, 9 Oct 2005 17:16:16 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from remko@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 50C6243D73; Sun, 9 Oct 2005 17:16:12 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from remko@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (remko@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.13.3/8.13.3) with ESMTP id j99HGCeB090197; Sun, 9 Oct 2005 17:16:12 GMT (envelope-from remko@freefall.freebsd.org) Received: (from remko@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.13.3/8.13.1/Submit) id j99HGC56090193; Sun, 9 Oct 2005 17:16:12 GMT (envelope-from remko) Date: Sun, 9 Oct 2005 17:16:12 GMT From: Remko Lodder Message-Id: <200510091716.j99HGC56090193@freefall.freebsd.org> To: remko@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org, remko@FreeBSD.org Cc: Subject: Re: docs/38556: EPS file of beastie, as addition to existing examples X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 09 Oct 2005 17:16:17 -0000 Synopsis: EPS file of beastie, as addition to existing examples Responsible-Changed-From-To: freebsd-doc->remko Responsible-Changed-By: remko Responsible-Changed-When: Sun Oct 9 17:15:47 GMT 2005 Responsible-Changed-Why: Perhaps this is something for the arts page's (thanks simon for mentioning that). I will look into that. http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=38556 From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Oct 9 17:53:12 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 11F5916A41F for ; Sun, 9 Oct 2005 17:53:12 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from simon@zaphod.nitro.dk) Received: from zaphod.nitro.dk (cpe.atm2-0-71337.0x535ccf26.taanxx2.customer.tele.dk [83.92.207.38]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9D33543D45 for ; Sun, 9 Oct 2005 17:53:11 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from simon@zaphod.nitro.dk) Received: by zaphod.nitro.dk (Postfix, from userid 3000) id D90D811B01; Sun, 9 Oct 2005 19:53:09 +0200 (CEST) Date: Sun, 9 Oct 2005 19:53:09 +0200 From: "Simon L. Nielsen" To: Kambiz Agahian Message-ID: <20051009175309.GC916@zaphod.nitro.dk> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="8X7/QrJGcKSMr1RN" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.10i Cc: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Right-to-left Languages in FreeBSD docs X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 09 Oct 2005 17:53:12 -0000 --8X7/QrJGcKSMr1RN Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 2005.10.10 00:59:51 +0800, Kambiz Agahian wrote: > Hi friends, > Could you please let me know whether or not there is any plan to support > right-to-left languages in freebsd docs? especially in terms of fonts to = be > used there. I haven't heard of anyone working on this. I actually have no idea what is required to support such languages, but I would be suprised if it isn't somehow possible with our DocBook framework. If somebody makes patches I'm sure they can be committed :-). --=20 Simon L. Nielsen --8X7/QrJGcKSMr1RN Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.2 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFDSVkFh9pcDSc1mlERAr2mAJ97J3ap0dEB/hN2P/GGhUiyKgOdpwCfS2jL J0Agb9sZdH8N9IdB6ZGmqvk= =0BcN -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --8X7/QrJGcKSMr1RN-- From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Oct 9 17:58:15 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 89D4716A41F for ; Sun, 9 Oct 2005 17:58:15 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from kambizzz@gmail.com) Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.194]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1CEB743D45 for ; Sun, 9 Oct 2005 17:58:15 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from kambizzz@gmail.com) Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id i20so498094wra for ; Sun, 09 Oct 2005 10:58:14 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=h1Ig7UFM3TRJn4moF/wI4X93y9SDQIUjAkSiWr2zgrhxC3rhc57DiluejDIgD8rTsZpLqRalLxsQWrFyIDLv6AWRjdstQcUBM/av1vtgMD7Fbm/dmtk6+MNIl70Pqav+KHA/JdGSp9U82IceIHygcd3PLXTvo3pBREqkozk3KY4= Received: by 10.54.99.18 with SMTP id w18mr3032590wrb; Sun, 09 Oct 2005 10:58:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.84.13 with HTTP; Sun, 9 Oct 2005 10:58:14 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Mon, 10 Oct 2005 01:58:14 +0800 From: Kambiz Agahian To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: Re: Right-to-left Languages in FreeBSD docs X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Kambiz Agahian List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 09 Oct 2005 17:58:15 -0000 Hi, Thank you for comment. We are looking for right-to-left in order to add support of Persian languag= e to FreeBSD docs. normally we use UTF-8 and I wonder if anyone help our team to start job wit= h right-to-left Persian fonts. Thank you On 10/10/05, Kambiz Agahian wrote: > > Hi friends, > Could you please let me know whether or not there is any plan to support > right-to-left languages in freebsd docs? especially in terms of fonts to = be > used there. > Sincerely, > From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Oct 9 18:51:54 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A61A616A41F for ; Sun, 9 Oct 2005 18:51:54 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from cswiger@mac.com) Received: from vms046pub.verizon.net (vms046pub.verizon.net [206.46.252.46]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5DFE043D45 for ; Sun, 9 Oct 2005 18:51:54 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from cswiger@mac.com) Received: from [192.168.1.3] ([68.161.71.31]) by vms046.mailsrvcs.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2 HotFix 0.04 (built Dec 24 2004)) with ESMTPA id <0IO300047WEHCWF3@vms046.mailsrvcs.net> for freebsd-doc@freebsd.org; Sun, 09 Oct 2005 13:51:53 -0500 (CDT) Date: Sun, 09 Oct 2005 14:51:58 -0400 From: Chuck Swiger In-reply-to: To: Kambiz Agahian Message-id: <434966CE.2010802@mac.com> Organization: The Courts of Chaos MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 8BIT X-Accept-Language: en-us, en References: User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.12) Gecko/20050915 Cc: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Right-to-left Languages in FreeBSD docs X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 09 Oct 2005 18:51:54 -0000 Kambiz Agahian wrote: > We are looking for right-to-left in order to add support of Persian language > to FreeBSD docs. normally we use UTF-8 and I wonder if anyone help our team > to start job with right-to-left Persian fonts. Welcome to "Alphabet soup", which is aptly named. I think Persian and Farsi are covered by ISO 8859-6 here: http://czyborra.com/charsets/iso8859.html#ISO-8859-6 There seems to be a downloadable BDF font image, and this commentary: "This is the Arabic alphabet, unfortunately the basic alphabet for the Arabic (ar) language only and not containing the four extra letters for Persian (fa) nor the eight extra letters for Pakistani Urdu (ur). This fixed font is not well-suited for text display. Each Arabic letter occurs in up to four (2²) presentation forms: initial, medial, final or separate. To make Arabic text legible you'll need a display engine that analyses the context and combines the appropriate glyphs on top of a handler for the reverse writing direction shared with Hebrew. The rendering algorithm is described in the Unicode book and I have implemented it in my arabjoin perl script." You might also try hunting down some Linux distribution which has Persian documentation or support, and ask them about what they're doing in terms of fonts and compositing. One you get something, your stuff would go under a "ar_AR.ISO8859-6" subdirectory of the docs tree (ie, /usr/share/docs), or "fa" something-or-other...? :-) -- -Chuck From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Oct 9 20:10:19 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-doc@hub.freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@hub.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2666B16A420 for ; Sun, 9 Oct 2005 20:10:19 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6208D43D46 for ; Sun, 9 Oct 2005 20:10:18 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (gnats@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.13.3/8.13.3) with ESMTP id j99KAIAI013734 for ; Sun, 9 Oct 2005 20:10:18 GMT (envelope-from gnats@freefall.freebsd.org) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.13.3/8.13.1/Submit) id j99KAIHV013733; Sun, 9 Oct 2005 20:10:18 GMT (envelope-from gnats) Resent-Date: Sun, 9 Oct 2005 20:10:18 GMT Resent-Message-Id: <200510092010.j99KAIHV013733@freefall.freebsd.org> Resent-From: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.org (GNATS Filer) Resent-To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Resent-Reply-To: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.org, "Devon H. O'Dell" Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C416816A41F for ; Sun, 9 Oct 2005 20:05:25 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from dodell@skik.dtrace.internal.sitetronics.com) Received: from knight.ixsystems.net (afg.ixsystems.net [206.40.55.73]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 637E543D73 for ; Sun, 9 Oct 2005 20:05:21 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from dodell@skik.dtrace.internal.sitetronics.com) Received: from skik.dtrace.internal.sitetronics.com (afg.ixsystems.net [206.40.55.73]) by knight.ixsystems.net (8.12.10/8.11.6) with ESMTP id j99JXeCI057364 for ; Sun, 9 Oct 2005 12:33:44 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dodell@skik.dtrace.internal.sitetronics.com) Received: from skik.dtrace.internal.sitetronics.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by skik.dtrace.internal.sitetronics.com (8.13.5/8.13.4) with ESMTP id j99K5afX036751 for ; Sun, 9 Oct 2005 13:05:36 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dodell@skik.dtrace.internal.sitetronics.com) Received: (from dodell@localhost) by skik.dtrace.internal.sitetronics.com (8.13.5/8.13.4/Submit) id j99K5a3J036750; Sun, 9 Oct 2005 13:05:36 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dodell) Message-Id: <200510092005.j99K5a3J036750@skik.dtrace.internal.sitetronics.com> Date: Sun, 9 Oct 2005 13:05:36 -0700 (PDT) From: "Devon H. O'Dell" To: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.org X-Send-Pr-Version: 3.113 Cc: Subject: docs/87176: X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: "Devon H. O'Dell" List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 09 Oct 2005 20:10:19 -0000 >Number: 87176 >Category: docs >Synopsis: >Confidential: no >Severity: non-critical >Priority: low >Responsible: freebsd-doc >State: open >Quarter: >Keywords: >Date-Required: >Class: doc-bug >Submitter-Id: current-users >Arrival-Date: Sun Oct 09 20:10:17 GMT 2005 >Closed-Date: >Last-Modified: >Originator: Devon H. O'Dell >Release: FreeBSD 7.0-CURRENT amd64 >Organization: OffMyServer, Inc. >Environment: System: FreeBSD skik.dtrace.internal.sitetronics.com 7.0-CURRENT FreeBSD 7.0-CURRENT #0: Tue Oct 4 13:44:46 PDT 2005 dodell@skik.dtrace.internal.sitetronics.com:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/SKIK-RD amd64 >Description: The device_get_softc(9) manpage incorrectly or ambiguously specifies when allocation of the device's softc takes place. My interpretation was that it takes place on the call of device_get_softc(9). To the contrary, the implementation of device_get_softc simply returns the dev->softc field; allocation is automatically done when the device attaches. >How-To-Repeat: man 9 device_get_softc >Fix: --- device_get_softc.9.patch begins here --- --- share/man/man9/device_get_softc.9.old Sun Oct 9 12:57:20 2005 +++ share/man/man9/device_get_softc.9 Sun Oct 9 12:58:05 2005 @@ -42,8 +42,8 @@ .Sh DESCRIPTION Return the driver-specific state of .Fa dev . -The softc is automatically allocated and zeroed the first -time it is requested. +The softc is automatically allocated and zeroed when the +driver is attached. The size of the allocation is determined by the device's .Vt driver_t information used to define the driver. --- device_get_softc.9.patch ends here --- >Release-Note: >Audit-Trail: >Unformatted: [patch] device_get_softc(9) is ambiguous about when allocation takes place From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Oct 9 23:53:49 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9960D16A41F for ; Sun, 9 Oct 2005 23:53:49 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from itetcu@people.tecnik93.com) Received: from relay.rdsnet.ro (gimli.rdsnet.ro [193.231.236.70]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 07E8A43D4C for ; Sun, 9 Oct 2005 23:53:47 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from itetcu@people.tecnik93.com) Received: (qmail 17925 invoked from network); 9 Oct 2005 23:53:45 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO smtp.rdsnet.ro) (62.231.74.130) by smtp1-133.rdsnet.ro with SMTP; 9 Oct 2005 23:53:45 -0000 Received: (qmail 18668 invoked by uid 89); 9 Oct 2005 23:53:44 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO it.buh.tecnik93.com) (81.196.204.98) by 0 with SMTP; 9 Oct 2005 23:53:44 -0000 Received: from it.buh.tecnik93.com (localhost.buh.tecnik93.com [127.0.0.1]) by it.buh.tecnik93.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C186D115F6; Mon, 10 Oct 2005 02:53:40 +0300 (EEST) Date: Mon, 10 Oct 2005 02:53:35 +0300 From: Ion-Mihai Tetcu To: linimon@lonesome.com (Mark Linimon) Message-ID: <20051010025335.10d473ee@it.buh.tecnik93.com> In-Reply-To: <20051009170105.GE22643@soaustin.net> References: <200510071804.j97I4jOD099219@freefall.freebsd.org> <20051009132205.6478a5fb@it.buh.tecnik93.com> <20051009170105.GE22643@soaustin.net> X-Mailer: Sylpheed-Claws 1.9.12 (GTK+ 2.6.8; i386-portbld-freebsd5.4) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org, Mark Linimon Subject: Re: docs/87073: New article: Maintaining and contributing to the FreeBSD Ports Collection X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 09 Oct 2005 23:53:49 -0000 On Sun, 9 Oct 2005 12:01:05 -0500 linimon@lonesome.com (Mark Linimon) wrote: > On Sun, Oct 09, 2005 at 01:22:05PM +0300, Ion-Mihai Tetcu wrote: > > Maybe it would make sense to cross-reference this in both PH (as PH > > is a technical document, e.g. answer very detailed to how but > > doesn't give you as fast the big picture) and Ports chapter in > > Handbook (both to encourage people being maintainers and to provide > > some better understanding towards maintainers). > > Absolutely. I think first I'll just try to get it committed so at > least we can be referring people to it. After that I think we'll > find things to tweak up in it, too. :) > As has been discussed (possibly off-list) there's stuff in the PH that > isn't technical and that stuff needs to go "somewhere" And stuff that isn't there but should be :) (from time to time) I'm thinking if we shouldn't impose documenting in PH the new things that go in bsd.*.mk's files (the things that are supposed to go in CHANGES). (don't commit if you don't document it in PH or at least provide a non-doc-book version so more proficient doc people can do it fast). -- IOnut Unregistered ;) FreeBSD "user" "Intellectual Property" is nowhere near as valuable as "Intellect" From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Oct 10 00:22:22 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A5F2C16A41F; Mon, 10 Oct 2005 00:22:22 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from linimon@lonesome.com) Received: from mail.soaustin.net (mail.soaustin.net [207.200.4.66]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5FAF143D53; Mon, 10 Oct 2005 00:22:22 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from linimon@lonesome.com) Received: by mail.soaustin.net (Postfix, from userid 502) id E0E232F5C; Sun, 9 Oct 2005 19:22:21 -0500 (CDT) Date: Sun, 9 Oct 2005 19:22:21 -0500 To: Ion-Mihai Tetcu Message-ID: <20051010002221.GB11266@soaustin.net> References: <200510071804.j97I4jOD099219@freefall.freebsd.org> <20051009132205.6478a5fb@it.buh.tecnik93.com> <20051009170105.GE22643@soaustin.net> <20051010025335.10d473ee@it.buh.tecnik93.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20051010025335.10d473ee@it.buh.tecnik93.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.9i From: linimon@lonesome.com (Mark Linimon) Cc: Mark Linimon , freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: docs/87073: New article: Maintaining and contributing to the FreeBSD Ports Collection X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 10 Oct 2005 00:22:22 -0000 On Mon, Oct 10, 2005 at 02:53:35AM +0300, Ion-Mihai Tetcu wrote: > I'm thinking if we shouldn't impose documenting in PH the new things > that go in bsd.*.mk's files (the things that are supposed to go in > CHANGES). (don't commit if you don't document it in PH or at least > provide a non-doc-book version so more proficient doc people can do it > fast). Yeah, well, the rulemaking stuff can get pretty unpopular sometimes. I'll settle for "suggest" for most stuff these days. Patches welcome btw :-) A lot of work is needed here. mcl From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Oct 10 04:50:17 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-doc@hub.freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@hub.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4C44B16A41F for ; Mon, 10 Oct 2005 04:50:17 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C5CE343D4C for ; Mon, 10 Oct 2005 04:50:16 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (gnats@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.13.3/8.13.3) with ESMTP id j9A4oGCP093593 for ; Mon, 10 Oct 2005 04:50:16 GMT (envelope-from gnats@freefall.freebsd.org) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.13.3/8.13.1/Submit) id j9A4oG1v093592; Mon, 10 Oct 2005 04:50:16 GMT (envelope-from gnats) Resent-Date: Mon, 10 Oct 2005 04:50:16 GMT Resent-Message-Id: <200510100450.j9A4oG1v093592@freefall.freebsd.org> Resent-From: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.org (GNATS Filer) Resent-To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Resent-Reply-To: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.org, Chad Castleberry Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6DD2C16A41F for ; Mon, 10 Oct 2005 04:45:49 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from nobody@FreeBSD.org) Received: from www.freebsd.org (www.freebsd.org [216.136.204.117]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3FF1143D45 for ; Mon, 10 Oct 2005 04:45:49 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from nobody@FreeBSD.org) Received: from www.freebsd.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by www.freebsd.org (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id j9A4jnul011135 for ; Mon, 10 Oct 2005 04:45:49 GMT (envelope-from nobody@www.freebsd.org) Received: (from nobody@localhost) by www.freebsd.org (8.13.1/8.13.1/Submit) id j9A4jn6a011134; Mon, 10 Oct 2005 04:45:49 GMT (envelope-from nobody) Message-Id: <200510100445.j9A4jn6a011134@www.freebsd.org> Date: Mon, 10 Oct 2005 04:45:49 GMT From: Chad Castleberry To: freebsd-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.org X-Send-Pr-Version: www-2.3 Cc: Subject: docs/87186: Handbook recommends outdated make op. X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 10 Oct 2005 04:50:17 -0000 >Number: 87186 >Category: docs >Synopsis: Handbook recommends outdated make op. >Confidential: no >Severity: non-critical >Priority: low >Responsible: freebsd-doc >State: open >Quarter: >Keywords: >Date-Required: >Class: doc-bug >Submitter-Id: current-users >Arrival-Date: Mon Oct 10 04:50:16 GMT 2005 >Closed-Date: >Last-Modified: >Originator: Chad Castleberry >Release: N/A >Organization: >Environment: N/A >Description: Handbook recommends using NOPROFILE when building world(http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/makeworld.html) Yet that option has been depreciated in favor of NO_PROFILE. >How-To-Repeat: http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/makeworld.html Section 20.4.7.2 "Compile the Base System". >Fix: Simply change "make -DNOPROFILE target" to "make -DNO_PROFILE target" and "NOPROFILE= true # Avoid compiling profiled libraries" to "NO_PROFILE= true # Avoid compiling profiled libraries" >Release-Note: >Audit-Trail: >Unformatted: From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Oct 10 05:05:16 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 259C516A41F for ; Mon, 10 Oct 2005 05:05:16 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from itetcu@people.tecnik93.com) Received: from relay.rdsnet.ro (gimli.rdsnet.ro [193.231.236.70]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id D291A43D48 for ; Mon, 10 Oct 2005 05:05:14 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from itetcu@people.tecnik93.com) Received: (qmail 715 invoked from network); 10 Oct 2005 05:05:12 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO smtp.rdsnet.ro) (62.231.74.130) by smtp1-133.rdsnet.ro with SMTP; 10 Oct 2005 05:05:12 -0000 Received: (qmail 31302 invoked by uid 89); 10 Oct 2005 05:05:12 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO it.buh.tecnik93.com) (81.196.204.98) by 0 with SMTP; 10 Oct 2005 05:05:12 -0000 Received: from it.buh.tecnik93.com (localhost.buh.tecnik93.com [127.0.0.1]) by it.buh.tecnik93.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 46F8E115F7; Mon, 10 Oct 2005 08:04:37 +0300 (EEST) Date: Mon, 10 Oct 2005 08:04:36 +0300 From: Ion-Mihai Tetcu Message-ID: <20051010080436.2dd3aa28@it.buh.tecnik93.com> In-Reply-To: <20051010002221.GB11266@soaustin.net> References: <200510071804.j97I4jOD099219@freefall.freebsd.org> <20051009132205.6478a5fb@it.buh.tecnik93.com> <20051009170105.GE22643@soaustin.net> <20051010025335.10d473ee@it.buh.tecnik93.com> <20051010002221.GB11266@soaustin.net> X-Mailer: Sylpheed-Claws 1.9.12 (GTK+ 2.6.8; i386-portbld-freebsd5.4) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Mark Linimon , freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: docs/87073: New article: Maintaining and contributing to the FreeBSD Ports Collection X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 10 Oct 2005 05:05:16 -0000 On Sun, 9 Oct 2005 19:22:21 -0500 linimon@lonesome.com (Mark Linimon) wrote: > On Mon, Oct 10, 2005 at 02:53:35AM +0300, Ion-Mihai Tetcu wrote: > > I'm thinking if we shouldn't impose documenting in PH the new things > > that go in bsd.*.mk's files (the things that are supposed to go in > > CHANGES). (don't commit if you don't document it in PH or at least > > provide a non-doc-book version so more proficient doc people can do > > it fast). > > Yeah, well, the rulemaking stuff can get pretty unpopular sometimes. > I'll settle for "suggest" for most stuff these days. Ah. so it depends of what side of the ruling process you are ? Never thought of that. :) And now that my partner is in Berlin for a week I'm left here doing more ruling that my usual; I guess it became a learned habit. :) > Patches welcome btw :-) A lot of work is needed here. Promise to send when I crash my head against something that's not in PH. -- IOnut Unregistered ;) FreeBSD "user" "Intellectual Property" is nowhere near as valuable as "Intellect" From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Oct 10 11:00:40 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0ABFB16A41F for ; Mon, 10 Oct 2005 11:00:40 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from owner-bugmaster@freebsd.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AE14443D46 for ; Mon, 10 Oct 2005 11:00:39 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from owner-bugmaster@freebsd.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (peter@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.13.3/8.13.3) with ESMTP id j9AB0d07050246 for ; Mon, 10 Oct 2005 11:00:39 GMT (envelope-from owner-bugmaster@freebsd.org) Received: (from peter@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.13.3/8.13.1/Submit) id j9AB0c6j050240 for freebsd-doc@freebsd.org; Mon, 10 Oct 2005 11:00:38 GMT (envelope-from owner-bugmaster@freebsd.org) Date: Mon, 10 Oct 2005 11:00:38 GMT Message-Id: <200510101100.j9AB0c6j050240@freefall.freebsd.org> X-Authentication-Warning: freefall.freebsd.org: peter set sender to owner-bugmaster@freebsd.org using -f From: FreeBSD bugmaster To: FreeBSD doc list Subject: Current unassigned doc problem reports X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 10 Oct 2005 11:00:40 -0000 Current FreeBSD problem reports The following is a listing of current problems submitted by FreeBSD users. These represent problem reports covering all versions including experimental development code and obsolete releases. Bugs can be in one of several states: o - open A problem report has been submitted, no sanity checking performed. a - analyzed The problem is understood and a solution is being sought. f - feedback Further work requires additional information from the originator or the community - possibly confirmation of the effectiveness of a proposed solution. p - patched A patch has been committed, but some issues (MFC and / or confirmation from originator) are still open. s - suspended The problem is not being worked on, due to lack of information or resources. This is a prime candidate for somebody who is looking for a project to do. If the problem cannot be solved at all, it will be closed, rather than suspended. c - closed A problem report is closed when any changes have been integrated, documented, and tested -- or when fixing the problem is abandoned. Critical problems Serious problems S Submitted Tracker Resp. Description ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- o [2001/05/24] docs/27605 doc Cross-document references () s [2002/03/08] docs/35678 doc docproj Makefiles for web are broken for o [2002/03/21] docs/36168 doc -pthread/_THREAD_SAFE docs missing in gcc o [2003/12/29] docs/60679 doc pthreads documentation does not describe o [2004/01/20] docs/61605 doc Improve documentation for i386 disk geome o [2004/10/03] docs/72285 doc GCC manuals are out of sync o [2004/10/15] docs/72743 doc Porter's Handbook lacks info on using aut o [2004/10/19] docs/72897 doc ERRATA and RELNOTES are missing warnings o [2005/02/25] docs/78062 doc Sample Echo Pseudo-Device Driver for Free o [2005/02/27] docs/78154 doc [PATCH] Make en_US FreeBSD Handbook more o [2005/03/03] docs/78357 doc getaddrinfo()'s AI_ADDRCONFIG not documen o [2005/04/07] docs/79658 doc Freebsd Handbook incorrect about ATAPI CD o [2005/04/13] docs/79857 doc manpage about ntp is wrong o [2005/05/10] docs/80843 doc [patch] Suggested doc fix for psm0 / hand o [2005/06/15] docs/82296 doc ttys(5) man page misleads about use for n o [2005/07/20] docs/83771 doc handbook/raid.html and atacontrol o [2005/09/08] docs/85867 doc dumpon.8 is missing crucial information o [2005/09/24] docs/86532 doc [patch] wpa_supplicant.conf man page shou 18 problems total. Non-critical problems S Submitted Tracker Resp. Description ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- s [1999/09/17] docs/13787 doc lnc driver isn't really the lnc driver s [2000/07/19] docs/20028 doc ASCII docs should reflect tags o [2001/02/02] docs/24786 doc missing FILES descriptions in sa(4) o [2001/04/02] docs/26286 doc *printf(3) etc should gain format string s [2001/06/03] docs/27843 doc [PATCH] make.conf WITH_* variables aren't o [2001/07/26] docs/29245 doc top(1) manpage doesn't understand SMP a [2001/08/23] docs/30008 doc This document should be translated, comme o [2001/10/07] docs/31109 doc replace gif images w/ png ones due to pat o [2002/01/05] docs/33589 doc Patch to doc.docbook.mk to post process . o [2002/01/09] docs/33724 doc [patch] fix Handbook error about Advanced o [2002/01/14] docs/33852 doc split(1) man page implies that input file o [2002/01/14] docs/33877 doc Documented behaviour of SF_flags for non- a [2002/02/16] docs/35011 doc There are no commands called "diskless" o o [2002/02/22] docs/35222 doc mailing list archive URL regexp suboptima o [2002/03/06] docs/35608 doc mt(1) page uses "setmark" without explana o [2002/03/06] docs/35609 doc mt(1) page needs explanation of "long era o [2002/03/06] docs/35612 doc ps(1) page "state" description doesn't me o [2002/03/07] docs/35642 doc lo(4) page maybe should document optional o [2002/03/07] docs/35644 doc lo(4) page presumes familiarity with prin o [2002/03/07] docs/35646 doc cp(1) page needs a "Bugs" section. o [2002/03/08] docs/35686 doc blackhole(4) page seems to contradict its o [2002/03/08] docs/35687 doc /etc/nsmb.conf missing mention of readers o [2002/03/10] docs/35732 doc adduser(8) page has obsolete reference an o [2002/03/16] docs/35943 doc at(1) config files are misplaced in /var/ o [2002/03/16] docs/35953 doc hosts.equiv(5) manual is confusing or wro o [2002/03/28] docs/36432 doc Proposal for doc/share/mk: make folded bo o [2002/03/29] docs/36449 doc symlink(7) manual doesn't mention trailin s [2002/05/07] docs/37843 doc manual for pthread_setschedparam is wrong o [2002/05/27] docs/38620 doc Committers Guide and CVS o [2002/05/31] docs/38772 doc firewall_type feature not mentioned on Ha o [2002/06/07] docs/38982 doc developers-hanbook/Jail fix o [2002/06/15] docs/39348 doc kenv fetch of hostname requires dhcp/boot o [2002/06/19] docs/39530 doc access(2) man page has unnecessarily broa o [2002/06/25] docs/39824 doc Various tweaks for doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/bo o [2002/07/10] docs/40423 doc Keyboard(4)'s definition of parameters to o [2002/07/21] docs/40851 doc [PATCH] "mergemaster -p" in UPDATING's "C o [2002/07/28] docs/41089 doc pax -B option does not mention interactio o [2002/08/02] docs/41270 doc confusing directions for kernelconfig cha o [2002/08/20] docs/41807 doc natd -punch_fw "bug" o [2002/08/20] docs/41820 doc Device driver confusion in Handbook (2.3) a [2002/08/27] docs/42058 doc Documentation: Installing Oracle 8i onto o [2002/10/04] docs/43651 doc stab(5) incorrectly states to include jus o [2002/10/08] docs/43823 doc [PATCH] update to environ(7) manpage o [2002/10/09] docs/43861 doc non-trivial typo in wicontrol man page o [2002/10/11] docs/43941 doc Rationale for Upgrade Sequence o [2002/10/15] docs/44074 doc ln(1) manual clarifications [patch] o [2002/10/29] docs/44594 doc Handbook doesn't mention drivers.flp for o [2002/12/02] docs/45940 doc burncd missing info o [2002/12/11] docs/46196 doc Missing return value in (set_)menu_format o [2002/12/16] docs/46291 doc correlation between HZ kernel config para o [2002/12/16] docs/46295 doc please add information to Nvi recovery em o [2003/01/28] docs/47575 doc Clarify requirements for IPFW2 in STABLE o [2003/01/28] docs/47594 doc [PATCH] passwd(5) incorrectly states allo o [2003/02/02] docs/47818 doc ln(1) manpage is confusing o [2003/02/08] docs/48101 doc There's no documentation on the fixit dis o [2003/03/06] docs/48980 doc [PATCH] nsgmls -s errors and sect. 3.2.1 o [2003/03/23] docs/50211 doc [PATCH] Fix textfile creation o [2003/04/03] docs/50573 doc return values for res_query/res_search/re o [2003/04/07] docs/50677 doc [PATCH] update doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/ o [2003/05/06] docs/51875 doc [patch] atkbd(4) adjustment o [2003/05/06] docs/51891 doc DIAGNOSTICS in ed driver manpage don't ma o [2003/05/07] docs/51921 doc ls(1) manpage lacks some information abou o [2003/05/11] docs/52071 doc [PATCH] Add more information about soft u o [2003/06/21] docs/53575 doc Change to Handbook Section 20.9 o [2003/06/21] docs/53596 doc Updates to mt manual page o [2003/06/25] docs/53732 doc quota output and man page do not document o [2003/07/13] docs/54451 doc [patch] i386_{get|set}_ldt manual page is o [2003/07/26] docs/54879 doc man 1 jot, -r description o [2003/08/12] docs/55482 doc DUMP has access to block devices in a JAI o [2003/09/24] docs/57153 doc S_IRWXU missing in fstat(2) man page? o [2003/09/30] docs/57388 doc INSTALL.TXT enhancement: mention ok promp o [2003/10/04] docs/57569 doc error on gensetdefs(8) man page o [2003/10/13] docs/57926 doc amd.conf.5 poorly format as it has both m o [2003/10/13] docs/57974 doc man page apropos for select macros (FD_SE o [2003/10/13] docs/57978 doc Type miss of GPIB in Hardware Notes o [2003/10/16] docs/58111 doc Handbook 12.4.3 Rebuilding ATA RAID1 Arra o [2003/10/28] docs/58615 doc update for Vinum chapter of Handbook: des o [2003/10/30] docs/58710 doc killpg(2) contains an error regarding sen o [2003/11/07] docs/59044 doc doc.docbook.mk does not properly handle a o [2003/11/19] docs/59477 doc Outdated Info Documents at http://docs.fr o [2003/11/30] docs/59835 doc ipfw(8) man page does not warn about acce o [2003/12/23] docs/60529 doc resolver(5) man page is badly out of date o [2003/12/24] docs/60544 doc getenv(3) manpage doesn't state the retur o [2004/01/08] docs/61070 doc handbook: Installation docs misleading: o [2004/01/13] docs/61301 doc [patch] Manpage patch for aue(4) to enabl o [2004/01/21] docs/61667 doc Obsolete documentation on FreeBSD PnP o [2004/01/25] docs/61859 doc Incorrect informaiton about trace command o [2004/02/05] docs/62402 doc easily circumventable Blade150 problem o [2004/02/06] docs/62412 doc one of the diskless boot methods describe o [2004/02/12] docs/62719 doc cross-reference pccardd and devd o [2004/02/12] docs/62724 doc host(1) manpage does not include informat o [2004/02/22] docs/63215 doc Wrong prototypes in mi_switch(9) (ref doc o [2004/03/27] docs/64807 doc Handbook section on NAT incomplete o [2004/04/02] docs/65065 doc improper language ntpd man pages o [2004/04/13] docs/65477 doc Installation Instruction fail to mention o [2004/04/14] docs/65530 doc minor improvement to getgrent.3 o [2004/05/04] docs/66264 doc [patch] libexec/rtld/rtld.1 typo fixes no o [2004/05/04] docs/66265 doc [patch] Document what -f and LD_TRACE_LOA o [2004/05/05] docs/66296 doc [patch] contrib/amd/amq/amq.8 uses log_op o [2004/05/07] docs/66343 doc unlisted supported card on man page for w o [2004/05/10] docs/66483 doc [patch] share/man/man4/csa.4 grammar nits o [2004/05/17] docs/66768 doc 4_RELENG share/man/man4/ng_one2many.4 MFC o [2004/05/17] docs/66770 doc [patch] share/man/man4/ng_pppoe.4 tyops, o [2004/05/23] docs/67078 doc [patch] MFC of a rtld(1) man page is inco f [2004/06/10] docs/67806 doc [patch] Let 5.x users know how to boot in o [2004/06/13] docs/67893 doc boot.8's -m description is insufficient. o [2004/06/28] docs/68453 doc [patch] rc.subr.8 o [2004/07/02] docs/68606 doc Porter's Handbook: document how to write o [2004/07/09] docs/68843 doc Dates on rc.subr(8) & rc(8) are whack. o [2004/07/09] docs/68845 doc The .At macro produces unexpected results o [2004/08/01] docs/69861 doc [patch] usr.bin/csplit/csplit.1 does not o [2004/08/09] docs/70217 doc Suggested rewrite of docproj/sgml.sgml o [2004/08/16] docs/70555 doc [patch] changes to freebsd-glossary o [2004/08/20] docs/70697 doc pcm(4) is out of date o [2004/09/10] docs/71555 doc how to run matlab on 5.2 o [2004/09/13] docs/71690 doc [patch] inaccurate information in systat( o [2004/09/16] docs/71782 doc mount_nfs man page is a bit out of date f [2004/09/21] docs/71980 doc Handbook says that no other software is k o [2004/10/06] docs/72383 doc manpage for awk(1) is terribly small and o [2004/11/06] docs/73583 doc [patch] add missing instructions to ndis( o [2004/11/07] docs/73638 doc ipfw(8): Clarify syntax for use of tables o [2004/11/08] docs/73679 doc FreeBSD 5.3 Release notes mention new nat o [2004/11/28] docs/74477 doc [patch] Correct several links in the cont o [2004/12/02] docs/74612 doc [patch] updates to the glossary o [2004/12/14] docs/75068 doc login.conf(5) manual page says nothing ab o [2004/12/28] docs/75577 doc typos in man3 manual pages, login_class.3 o [2005/01/05] docs/75865 doc comments on "backup-basics" in handbook o [2005/01/09] docs/75995 doc hcreate documentation(?) bug o [2005/01/11] docs/76094 doc Incorrect statement about partition d o [2005/01/17] docs/76333 doc EOF indicator can be cleared by not only o [2005/01/20] docs/76515 doc missleading use of make -j flag in handbo o [2005/02/04] docs/77087 doc The bootvinum script given in the handboo o [2005/02/24] docs/78041 doc docs for md need further explanation of t o [2005/02/27] docs/78138 doc Error in pre-installation section of inst o [2005/03/01] docs/78240 doc Replace with around a # o [2005/03/02] docs/78275 doc Keyword size needs to be changed to lengt o [2005/03/06] docs/78479 doc SO_NOSIGPIPE socket option undocumented o [2005/03/06] docs/78480 doc Networked printer setup unnecessarily com o [2005/03/07] docs/78520 doc error in man(5) lpd.conf, lpd.perms pages o [2005/03/16] docs/78915 doc rfork()'s RFTHREAD is not documented o [2005/03/23] docs/79156 doc buffersize knob for sound(4) is a tunable o [2005/04/18] docs/80070 doc [patch] Wrong dbm_close return value desc o [2005/04/20] docs/80159 doc [patch] rtld(1) mentions "%m" but it's no o [2005/05/11] docs/80871 doc terminfo(5) man page source corrupted o [2005/06/01] docs/81776 doc ifconfig(8) man page not updated with car o [2005/06/10] docs/82114 doc Misisng ndisapi(9) manual page o [2005/06/21] docs/82481 doc tar/gtar man page mod request o [2005/06/22] docs/82508 doc misleading man page for basename/dirname o [2005/06/24] docs/82595 doc 25.5.3 Configuring a bridge section of th o [2005/06/29] docs/82779 doc [patch] Kill entry for ddb manpage o [2005/07/17] docs/83621 doc [patch]: Minor omissions in /usr/src/UPDA o [2005/07/24] docs/84021 doc Missing manpage on RELENG_6 o [2005/07/27] docs/84154 doc Handbook somewhat off in use of /boot/ker o [2005/07/29] docs/84265 doc [patch] chmod(1) manpage omits implicatio o [2005/07/29] docs/84267 doc chflags(1) manual doesn't say it's affect o [2005/07/29] docs/84268 doc chmod(1) manpage's BUGS entry is either w o [2005/07/29] docs/84317 doc fdp-primer doesn't show class=USERNAME di o [2005/07/31] docs/84408 doc dump(8) manpage doesn't require an option o [2005/07/31] docs/84409 doc vinum-object-naming.html -v/-U typo o [2005/08/02] docs/84467 doc bsdlabel(8) manpage uses archaic "pack" i o [2005/08/03] docs/84509 doc Update some items at porters handbook abo s [2005/08/03] docs/84519 doc [patch] mdoc(7) manpage needs more about o [2005/08/04] docs/84538 doc sk(4) driver supports Marvell 88E800x chi o [2005/08/04] docs/84549 doc [patch] errno(2) manpage uses "<...>" for s [2005/08/04] docs/84550 doc mdoc(7) manpage erroneously requires SYNO o [2005/08/06] docs/84620 doc [patch] xargs(1) manpage has "utility" an o [2005/08/07] docs/84645 doc intro(6) manpage should always be install o [2005/08/07] docs/84646 doc terminfo(5) manpage confuses man program. o [2005/08/08] docs/84670 doc [patch] tput(1) manpage missing ENVIRONME o [2005/08/10] docs/84764 doc [patch] hosts.equiv(5) manpage should SEE o [2005/08/11] docs/84790 doc Error in SYSCALL_MODULE(9) manual page o [2005/08/11] docs/84806 doc mdoc(7) manpage has section ordering prob o [2005/08/12] docs/84849 doc [patch] fdisk(8) manpage doesn't warn fdi o [2005/08/14] docs/84913 doc bsdlabel(8) manpage seems wrong about fsi o [2005/08/15] docs/84955 doc [patch] mdoc(7) manpage should mention mi o [2005/08/15] docs/84956 doc [patch] intro(5) manpage doesn't mention o [2005/08/15] docs/84961 doc [patch] Sync NDIS documentation with real o [2005/08/17] docs/85062 doc tr(1) manpage omits several character cla o [2005/08/17] docs/85063 doc expand(1) manpage needs to clarify -t opt o [2005/08/17] docs/85066 doc [patch] builtin(1) manpage has incomplete o [2005/08/18] docs/85097 doc [patch] devd.conf.5 lacks a lot of vital o [2005/08/18] docs/85100 doc ICH audio device support statement is amb o [2005/08/19] docs/85103 doc sh(1) manpage doesn't contain the word "c o [2005/08/19] docs/85118 doc [PATCH] opiekey(1) references non-existin o [2005/08/19] docs/85127 doc loader(8) manpage uses too-rare "depurati o [2005/08/19] docs/85128 doc loader.conf autoboot_delay incompletly de o [2005/08/21] docs/85186 doc ktrace(1) manpage doesn't warn about need o [2005/08/21] docs/85187 doc find(1) manpage missing block info for -l o [2005/08/21] docs/85194 doc man ssh(1) -o description o [2005/08/22] docs/85209 doc pfsync man page corrections o [2005/08/22] docs/85232 doc [PATCH] instructions on building web site o [2005/08/23] docs/85243 doc Missing icmp related abbreviations for pf o [2005/08/27] docs/85353 doc Very little cosmetic/ponctuation changes o [2005/08/29] docs/85425 doc fido (watchdog) device /dev/fido not docu o [2005/09/11] docs/85986 doc FreeBSD keyword missing if you display se o [2005/09/12] docs/86028 doc [patch] Add Ruby to the list of interpret o [2005/09/13] docs/86044 doc man 8 jail missing crucial mount in start o [2005/09/13] docs/86090 doc [PATCH] clarification of rc.conf(5) manua o [2005/09/19] docs/86342 doc bikeshed entry of Handbook is wrong o [2005/09/29] docs/86733 doc [patch] Add using kldload as an alternati o [2005/10/03] docs/86876 doc Opera is now ad-free for everybody, refle o [2005/10/09] docs/87147 doc [patch] src/share/man/man9/microtime.9 hi o [2005/10/09] docs/87176 doc o [2005/10/10] docs/87186 doc Handbook recommends outdated make op. 204 problems total. From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Oct 10 13:40:24 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-doc@hub.freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@hub.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2953116A423 for ; Mon, 10 Oct 2005 13:40:24 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EE8A443D46 for ; Mon, 10 Oct 2005 13:40:23 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (gnats@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.13.3/8.13.3) with ESMTP id j9ADeNFZ080470 for ; Mon, 10 Oct 2005 13:40:23 GMT (envelope-from gnats@freefall.freebsd.org) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.13.3/8.13.1/Submit) id j9ADeN1m080469; Mon, 10 Oct 2005 13:40:23 GMT (envelope-from gnats) Date: Mon, 10 Oct 2005 13:40:23 GMT Message-Id: <200510101340.j9ADeN1m080469@freefall.freebsd.org> To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org From: Giorgos Keramidas Cc: Subject: Re: docs/87186: Handbook recommends outdated make op. X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Giorgos Keramidas List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 10 Oct 2005 13:40:24 -0000 The following reply was made to PR docs/87186; it has been noted by GNATS. From: Giorgos Keramidas To: Chad Castleberry Cc: bug-followup@freebsd.org Subject: Re: docs/87186: Handbook recommends outdated make op. Date: Mon, 10 Oct 2005 16:36:44 +0300 On 2005-10-10 04:45, Chad Castleberry wrote: > Handbook recommends using NOPROFILE when building world > http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/makeworld.html > Yet that option has been depreciated in favor of NO_PROFILE. Good catch. The Handbook has to support older releases too (i.e. 4.11), that may not have NO_XXX options. I think we can change NOPROFILE to NO_PROFILE and add a for those older releases though. From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Oct 10 20:02:01 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: doc@FreeBSD.org Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BB8FE16A41F for ; Mon, 10 Oct 2005 20:02:01 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from siddhartht23@gmail.com) Received: from qproxy.gmail.com (qproxy.gmail.com [72.14.204.192]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D816E43D49 for ; Mon, 10 Oct 2005 20:01:59 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from siddhartht23@gmail.com) Received: by qproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id o12so374157qba for ; Mon, 10 Oct 2005 13:01:58 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:mime-version:content-type; b=Zh1eWs+lHMQpmS/VqOXQuFowFoz6iPnOJjbms7cR55igDFZ5cDjmuNiPwLKRd+2XmjdYOJB0YhzUwhMNJLcWKdECQjfXblX1TKToaiYmzo2UHI45DfgaOlbdlfcUTP4oms9Zw9/lmfy8vmxuaJm7xD8z3vgRf8w5aZHbdGg1xhU= Received: by 10.65.40.18 with SMTP id s18mr3401737qbj; Mon, 10 Oct 2005 13:01:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.64.249.15 with HTTP; Mon, 10 Oct 2005 13:01:58 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Mon, 10 Oct 2005 16:01:58 -0400 From: siddharth tirodkar To: doc@FreeBSD.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: Subject: doubts........imp X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: siddharth tirodkar List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 10 Oct 2005 20:02:01 -0000 hi, this is siddharth and i had a few fundamentals doubts about linux os ..if u could please resolve them.. 1. In Unix systems the read system call is implemented by the a procedure in the standard library package (libc) which is also called read. Is is essential that both of these have the same name? 2.To a programmer, a system call looks like any other call to a library procedure. Under what circumstances would it be important that a programmer knows which library procedures result in system calls. thanks From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Oct 10 21:53:31 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: doc@FreeBSD.org Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0B9E016A41F for ; Mon, 10 Oct 2005 21:53:31 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from linimon@lonesome.com) Received: from mail.soaustin.net (mail.soaustin.net [207.200.4.66]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C5DDD43D45 for ; Mon, 10 Oct 2005 21:53:30 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from linimon@lonesome.com) Received: by mail.soaustin.net (Postfix, from userid 502) id 5F8272F7F; Mon, 10 Oct 2005 16:53:30 -0500 (CDT) Date: Mon, 10 Oct 2005 16:53:30 -0500 To: siddharth tirodkar Message-ID: <20051010215330.GD32546@soaustin.net> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.9i From: linimon@lonesome.com (Mark Linimon) Cc: doc@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: doubts........imp X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 10 Oct 2005 21:53:31 -0000 On Mon, Oct 10, 2005 at 04:01:58PM -0400, siddharth tirodkar wrote: > this is siddharth and i had a few fundamentals doubts about linux os This is the wrong place to ask questions about Linux. FreeBSD is entirely separate from Linux. mcl From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Oct 11 01:58:52 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 79CB616A41F for ; Tue, 11 Oct 2005 01:58:52 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from www@FreeBSD.org) Received: from www.freebsd.org (www.freebsd.org [216.136.204.117]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 283AE43D45 for ; Tue, 11 Oct 2005 01:58:52 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from www@FreeBSD.org) Received: from www.freebsd.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by www.freebsd.org (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id j9B1wp2H009652 for ; Tue, 11 Oct 2005 01:58:52 GMT (envelope-from www@www.freebsd.org) Received: (from www@localhost) by www.freebsd.org (8.13.1/8.13.1/Submit) id j9B1wpOb009651 for freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org; Tue, 11 Oct 2005 01:58:51 GMT (envelope-from www) Date: Tue, 11 Oct 2005 01:58:51 GMT From: World Wide Web Owner Message-Id: <200510110158.j9B1wpOb009651@www.freebsd.org> To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Cc: Subject: FreeBSD web build failed on www.freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 11 Oct 2005 01:58:52 -0000 /usr/bin/sed -e 's///' windowmaker.sgml | /usr/bin/env SGML_CATALOG_FILES= /usr/local/bin/sgmlnorm -d -ifreebsd.urls.absolute -c /usr/local/share/sgml/html/catalog -D /w/www/build/www/en/ports > windowmaker.html || (/bin/rm -f windowmaker.html && false) /usr/bin/sed -e 's///' www.sgml | /usr/bin/env SGML_CATALOG_FILES= /usr/local/bin/sgmlnorm -d -ifreebsd.urls.absolute -c /usr/local/share/sgml/html/catalog -D /w/www/build/www/en/ports > www.html || (/bin/rm -f www.html && false) /usr/bin/sed -e 's///' x11-clocks.sgml | /usr/bin/env SGML_CATALOG_FILES= /usr/local/bin/sgmlnorm -d -ifreebsd.urls.absolute -c /usr/local/share/sgml/html/catalog -D /w/www/build/www/en/ports > x11-clocks.html || (/bin/rm -f x11-clocks.html && false) /usr/bin/sed -e 's///' x11-fm.sgml | /usr/bin/env SGML_CATALOG_FILES= /usr/local/bin/sgmlnorm -d -ifreebsd.urls.absolute -c /usr/local/share/sgml/html/catalog -D /w/www/build/www/en/ports > x11-fm.html || (/bin/rm -f x11-fm.html && false) /usr/bin/sed -e 's///' x11-fonts.sgml | /usr/bin/env SGML_CATALOG_FILES= /usr/local/bin/sgmlnorm -d -ifreebsd.urls.absolute -c /usr/local/share/sgml/html/catalog -D /w/www/build/www/en/ports > x11-fonts.html || (/bin/rm -f x11-fonts.html && false) /usr/bin/sed -e 's///' x11-servers.sgml | /usr/bin/env SGML_CATALOG_FILES= /usr/local/bin/sgmlnorm -d -ifreebsd.urls.absolute -c /usr/local/share/sgml/html/catalog -D /w/www/build/www/en/ports > x11-servers.html || (/bin/rm -f x11-servers.html && false) /usr/bin/sed -e 's///' x11-themes.sgml | /usr/bin/env SGML_CATALOG_FILES= /usr/local/bin/sgmlnorm -d -ifreebsd.urls.absolute -c /usr/local/share/sgml/html/catalog -D /w/www/build/www/en/ports > x11-themes.html || (/bin/rm -f x11-themes.html && false) /usr/bin/sed -e 's///' x11-toolkits.sgml | /usr/bin/env SGML_CATALOG_FILES= /usr/local/bin/sgmlnorm -d -ifreebsd.urls.absolute -c /usr/local/share/sgml/html/catalog -D /w/www/build/www/en/ports > x11-toolkits.html || (/bin/rm -f x11-toolkits.html && false) /usr/bin/sed -e 's///' x11-wm.sgml | /usr/bin/env SGML_CATALOG_FILES= /usr/local/bin/sgmlnorm -d -ifreebsd.urls.absolute -c /usr/local/share/sgml/html/catalog -D /w/www/build/www/en/ports > x11-wm.html || (/bin/rm -f x11-wm.html && false) /usr/bin/sed -e 's///' x11.sgml | /usr/bin/env SGML_CATALOG_FILES= /usr/local/bin/sgmlnorm -d -ifreebsd.urls.absolute -c /usr/local/share/sgml/html/catalog -D /w/www/build/www/en/ports > x11.html || (/bin/rm -f x11.html && false) /usr/bin/sed -e 's///' xfce.sgml | /usr/bin/env SGML_CATALOG_FILES= /usr/local/bin/sgmlnorm -d -ifreebsd.urls.absolute -c /usr/local/share/sgml/html/catalog -D /w/www/build/www/en/ports > xfce.html || (/bin/rm -f xfce.html && false) /usr/bin/sed -e 's///' zope.sgml | /usr/bin/env SGML_CATALOG_FILES= /usr/local/bin/sgmlnorm -d -ifreebsd.urls.absolute -c /usr/local/share/sgml/html/catalog -D /w/www/build/www/en/ports > zope.html || (/bin/rm -f zope.html && false) cd growth; make all cd /w/www/build/www/en/ports/growth/../../../tools/portsgrowth; make all ===> relnotes ===> relnotes/CURRENT/share/sgml /usr/bin/perl /w/www/build/relnotes/doc/share/sgml/../../share/misc/man2hwnotes.pl -a /w/www/build/relnotes/doc/share/sgml/../../share/misc/dev.archlist.txt -o dev-auto.sgml /w/www/build/relnotes/doc/share/sgml/../../../man4/*.4 /w/www/build/relnotes/doc/share/sgml/../../../man4/man4.*/*.4 ===> relnotes/CURRENT/en_US.ISO8859-1 ===> relnotes/CURRENT/en_US.ISO8859-1/relnotes ===> relnotes/CURRENT/en_US.ISO8859-1/relnotes/alpha ===> relnotes/CURRENT/en_US.ISO8859-1/relnotes/amd64 ===> relnotes/CURRENT/en_US.ISO8859-1/relnotes/ia64 ===> relnotes/CURRENT/en_US.ISO8859-1/relnotes/i386 ===> relnotes/CURRENT/en_US.ISO8859-1/relnotes/pc98 ===> relnotes/CURRENT/en_US.ISO8859-1/relnotes/sparc64 ===> relnotes/CURRENT/en_US.ISO8859-1/hardware ===> relnotes/CURRENT/en_US.ISO8859-1/hardware/alpha cd /w/www/build/relnotes/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/hardware/alpha/../../../share/sgml && make dev-auto.sgml `dev-auto.sgml' is up to date. /usr/bin/env SP_ENCODING=ISO-8859-1 /usr/local/bin/jade -V nochunks -ioutput.html -d /w/www/build/relnotes/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/hardware/alpha/../../../share/sgml/default.dsl -ifreebsd.urls.absolute -V %generate-legalnotice-link% -V %generate-docformat-navi-link% -ioutput.html.images -V %generate-article-toc% -ino.include.historic -D /usr/obj/w/www/build/relnotes/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/hardware/alpha -c /w/www/build/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/share/sgml/catalog -c /w/www/build/doc/share/sgml/catalog -c /usr/local/share/sgml/docbook/dsssl/modular/catalog -c /usr/local/share/sgml/iso8879/catalog -c /usr/local/share/sgml/docbook/catalog -c /usr/local/share/sgml/jade/catalog -c /w/www/build/relnotes/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/hardware/alpha/../../../en_US.ISO8859-1/share/sgml/catalog -c /w/www/build/relnotes/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/hardware/alpha/../../../share/sgml/catalog -c /usr/local/share/sgml/catalog.ports -c /w/www/build/relnotes/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/hardware/alpha/../../../share/sgml/catalog-a uto -c /w/www/build/relnotes/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/hardware/alpha/../../../share/sgml/catalog-auto -t sgml /w/www/build/relnotes/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/hardware/alpha/article.sgml > article.html || (/bin/rm -f article.html && false) /usr/local/bin/jade:/w/www/build/relnotes/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/hardware/alpha/../common/../common/dev.sgml:694:20:E: general entity "man.snd.mss.4" not defined and no default entity *** Error code 1 Stop in /w/www/build/relnotes/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/hardware/alpha. *** Error code 1 Stop in /w/www/build/relnotes/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/hardware. *** Error code 1 Stop in /w/www/build/relnotes/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1. *** Error code 1 Stop in /w/www/build/relnotes/doc. *** Error code 1 Stop in /w/www/build/www/en/relnotes. *** Error code 1 Stop in /w/www/build/www/en. 2104.77 real 1287.42 user 153.98 sys From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Oct 11 03:04:45 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B8E8B16A41F for ; Tue, 11 Oct 2005 03:04:45 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from rushani@bl.mmtr.or.jp) Received: from wasley.bl.mmtr.or.jp (wasley.bl.mmtr.or.jp [210.228.173.142]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id CF04D43D49 for ; Tue, 11 Oct 2005 03:04:43 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from rushani@bl.mmtr.or.jp) Received: (qmail 24042 invoked from network); 11 Oct 2005 03:04:32 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO localhost) (210.165.212.52) by wasley.bl.mmtr.or.jp with SMTP; 11 Oct 2005 03:04:32 -0000 Date: Tue, 11 Oct 2005 12:01:43 +0900 (JST) Message-Id: <20051011.120143.92580795.rushani@bl.mmtr.or.jp> To: www@FreeBSD.org From: Hideyuki KURASHINA In-Reply-To: <200510110158.j9B1wpOb009651@www.freebsd.org> References: <200510110158.j9B1wpOb009651@www.freebsd.org> X-URL: http://www.rushani.jp/ X-PGP-Public-Key: http://www.rushani.jp/rushani.asc X-PGP-Fingerprint: A052 6F98 6146 6FE3 91E2 DA6B F2FA 2088 439A DC57 X-RC5-72-Stats: http://stats.distributed.net/participant/psummary.php?project_id=8&id=432320 X-Mailer: Mew version 4.2.53 on Emacs 21.3 / Mule 5.0 (SAKAKI) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD web build failed on www.freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 11 Oct 2005 03:04:45 -0000 Hi, >>> On Tue, 11 Oct 2005 01:58:51 GMT, World Wide Web Owner said: > /usr/local/bin/jade:/w/www/build/relnotes/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/hardware/alpha/../common/../common/dev.sgml:694:20:E: general entity "man.snd.mss.4" not defined and no default entity Should be fixed for now. -- rushani From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Oct 11 22:10:24 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-doc@hub.freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@hub.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1E78616A422; Tue, 11 Oct 2005 22:10:24 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from pav@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 15FD343D5A; Tue, 11 Oct 2005 22:10:23 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from pav@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (pav@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.13.3/8.13.3) with ESMTP id j9BMAMMR077239; Tue, 11 Oct 2005 22:10:22 GMT (envelope-from pav@freefall.freebsd.org) Received: (from pav@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.13.3/8.13.1/Submit) id j9BMAM2a077235; Tue, 11 Oct 2005 22:10:22 GMT (envelope-from pav) Date: Tue, 11 Oct 2005 22:10:22 GMT From: Pav Lucistnik Message-Id: <200510112210.j9BMAM2a077235@freefall.freebsd.org> To: vsevolod@freebsd.org, pav@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Cc: Subject: Re: docs/84509: Update some items at porters handbook about Python and PORTDOCS X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 11 Oct 2005 22:10:24 -0000 Synopsis: Update some items at porters handbook about Python and PORTDOCS State-Changed-From-To: open->closed State-Changed-By: pav State-Changed-When: Tue Oct 11 22:10:05 GMT 2005 State-Changed-Why: Finished committing the last patch (python changes were already in) http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=84509 From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Oct 12 01:47:08 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: doc@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D6E8716A41F for ; Wed, 12 Oct 2005 01:47:08 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from bugtraq@post.vlad.ru) Received: from mail.vladivostok.ru (mail.vladivostok.ru [212.91.192.20]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E3CF543D45 for ; Wed, 12 Oct 2005 01:47:07 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from bugtraq@post.vlad.ru) Received: from dsm.it.ds (unverified [212.122.1.130]) by mail.vladivostok.ru (Vircom SMTPRS 5.3.232) with ESMTP id for ; Wed, 12 Oct 2005 12:45:16 +1100 Date: Wed, 12 Oct 2005 12:47:03 +1100 From: bugtraq_reader X-Mailer: The Bat! (v2.10.01) Business X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <665066486.20051012124703@post.vlad.ru> To: doc@FreeBSD.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Subject: Error in Documentation! X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: bugtraq_reader List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 12 Oct 2005 01:47:09 -0000 Hello doc, Due your error I was unable to make mirror and lost remote control. Plz fix your docs! http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/geom-mirror.html In Section ---------------- Now edit the replicated /mnt/etc/fstab file and remove or comment out the swap file. Change the other file system information to use the new disk. See the following example: # Device Mountpoint FStype Options Dump Pass# #/dev/da0s2b none swap sw 0 0 /dev/mirror/gm0sa1 / ufs rw 1 1 ----------------- > /dev/mirror/gm0sa1 / ufs rw 1 1 Incorrect device gm0sa1, instead gm0s1a! -- Best regards, bugtraq_reader mailto:bugtraq@post.vlad.ru From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Oct 12 02:10:15 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: doc@FreeBSD.org Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ED93D16A41F for ; Wed, 12 Oct 2005 02:10:15 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from trhodes@FreeBSD.org) Received: from pittgoth.com (ns1.pittgoth.com [216.38.206.188]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 86E7E43D45 for ; Wed, 12 Oct 2005 02:10:15 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from trhodes@FreeBSD.org) Received: from localhost (net-ix.gw.ai.net [205.134.160.6] (may be forged)) (authenticated bits=0) by pittgoth.com (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id j9C2FxpK079519 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT); Tue, 11 Oct 2005 22:16:00 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from trhodes@FreeBSD.org) Date: Tue, 11 Oct 2005 22:09:07 -0400 From: Tom Rhodes To: bugtraq_reader Message-Id: <20051011220907.409fc423.trhodes@FreeBSD.org> In-Reply-To: <665066486.20051012124703@post.vlad.ru> References: <665066486.20051012124703@post.vlad.ru> X-Mailer: Sylpheed version 1.0.5 (GTK+ 1.2.10; i386-portbld-freebsd7.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: doc@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: Error in Documentation! X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 12 Oct 2005 02:10:16 -0000 On Wed, 12 Oct 2005 12:47:03 +1100 bugtraq_reader wrote: > Hello doc, > > Due your error I was unable to make mirror and lost remote control. Plz fix your docs! > Fixed, sorry about the typo. -- Tom Rhodes From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Oct 12 02:40:15 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-doc@hub.freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@hub.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8A6C316A41F for ; Wed, 12 Oct 2005 02:40:15 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A45D743D55 for ; Wed, 12 Oct 2005 02:40:14 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (gnats@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.13.3/8.13.3) with ESMTP id j9C2eEep009124 for ; Wed, 12 Oct 2005 02:40:14 GMT (envelope-from gnats@freefall.freebsd.org) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.13.3/8.13.1/Submit) id j9C2eEVp009123; Wed, 12 Oct 2005 02:40:14 GMT (envelope-from gnats) Resent-Date: Wed, 12 Oct 2005 02:40:14 GMT Resent-Message-Id: <200510120240.j9C2eEVp009123@freefall.freebsd.org> Resent-From: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.org (GNATS Filer) Resent-To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Resent-Reply-To: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.org, Xin LI Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D9F6A16A41F; Wed, 12 Oct 2005 02:34:50 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from delphij@FreeBSD.org) Received: from mail.sina.com.cn (sina152-194.staff.sina.com.cn [61.135.152.194]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AAD2E43D45; Wed, 12 Oct 2005 02:34:49 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from delphij@FreeBSD.org) Received: from backup.sinamail.sina.com.cn (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by backup.sinamail.sina.com.cn (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id j9C2RjoD071905; Wed, 12 Oct 2005 10:27:45 +0800 (CST) (envelope-from delphij@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from delphij@localhost) by backup.sinamail.sina.com.cn (8.13.4/8.13.4/Submit) id j9C2RiUd071904; Wed, 12 Oct 2005 10:27:44 +0800 (CST) (envelope-from delphij) Message-Id: <200510120227.j9C2RiUd071904@backup.sinamail.sina.com.cn> Date: Wed, 12 Oct 2005 10:27:44 +0800 (CST) From: Xin LI To: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.org X-Send-Pr-Version: 3.113 Cc: scottl@FreeBSD.org, obrien@FreeBSD.org Subject: docs/87302: [PATCH] Mention the fact that hptmv(4) works on amd64 as well X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Xin LI List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 12 Oct 2005 02:40:15 -0000 >Number: 87302 >Category: docs >Synopsis: [PATCH] Mention the fact that hptmv(4) works on amd64 as well >Confidential: no >Severity: non-critical >Priority: low >Responsible: freebsd-doc >State: open >Quarter: >Keywords: >Date-Required: >Class: change-request >Submitter-Id: current-users >Arrival-Date: Wed Oct 12 02:40:14 GMT 2005 >Closed-Date: >Last-Modified: >Originator: Xin LI >Release: FreeBSD 6.0-RC1 i386 >Organization: The FreeBSD Project >Environment: System: FreeBSD backup.sinamail.sina.com.cn 6.0-RC1 FreeBSD 6.0-RC1 #0: Sun Oct 9 18:49:46 CST 2005 delphij@backup.sinamail.sina.com.cn:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/SMP i386 >Description: This manual update reflects the fact that hptmv(4) also works for the amd64 platform. The patchset was generated against -HEAD, but also applies to RELENG_6. >How-To-Repeat: >Fix: --- patch-hptmv.4 begins here --- Index: hptmv.4 =================================================================== RCS file: /home/ncvs/src/share/man/man4/hptmv.4,v retrieving revision 1.4 diff -u -r1.4 hptmv.4 --- hptmv.4 21 Jan 2005 08:36:37 -0000 1.4 +++ hptmv.4 12 Oct 2005 02:22:11 -0000 @@ -24,7 +24,7 @@ .\" .\" $FreeBSD: src/share/man/man4/hptmv.4,v 1.4 2005/01/21 08:36:37 ru Exp $ .\" -.Dd November 19, 2004 +.Dd October 12, 2005 .Dt HPTMV 4 .Os .Sh NAME @@ -52,8 +52,8 @@ .Sh NOTES The .Nm -driver only works on the i386 platform as it requires a binary blob object -from the manufacturer which they only supply for the i386 platform. +driver only works on the i386 and amd64 platforms as it requires a binary +blob object from the manufacturer which they only supply for these platforms. .Sh SEE ALSO .Xr kld 4 , .Xr kldload 8 , --- patch-hptmv.4 ends here --- >Release-Note: >Audit-Trail: >Unformatted: From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Oct 12 20:22:58 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E963C16A420 for ; Wed, 12 Oct 2005 20:22:57 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jbaez444@yahoo.com) Received: from web33713.mail.mud.yahoo.com (web33713.mail.mud.yahoo.com [68.142.201.210]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 7ED9D43D4C for ; Wed, 12 Oct 2005 20:22:57 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jbaez444@yahoo.com) Received: (qmail 22825 invoked by uid 60001); 12 Oct 2005 20:22:56 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=n7pgTdnV5PhxTEm251ZH+l7jxZV6gFfhYoaMGXmeOEK1SuEWLxd9m6UOtfaTDxTbpYLZq9TIwEH/0zrD5f5q/CiPopkm8RHKidFhnneRy8DnWlucyN3lBNl1o0TW1uul4NwLwXvIs1TexyTD+qSjgpEpBBBTR6xMn4+5m88WiDA= ; Message-ID: <20051012202256.22823.qmail@web33713.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Received: from [199.219.138.254] by web33713.mail.mud.yahoo.com via HTTP; Wed, 12 Oct 2005 13:22:56 PDT Date: Wed, 12 Oct 2005 13:22:56 -0700 (PDT) From: John Baez To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: Subject: Immediate Question (Help!) X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 12 Oct 2005 20:22:58 -0000 Dear: Members Im a newbie and im downloading the packages via ftp. My question is, I have seen the many folders available ,but my concern is with the PACKAGES folder. How much is enough and which should be of choice, so far from reading I've been reading your online doc's, I decided to dl the ( x (files), www, graphichs, emulator among other which I think are important. Do I really need the Latest folder? (It seems very lengthy is it necessary?) Please get back to me on this. I think that the folder (latest) is just direct acess for ftp use from freebsd in case something is not found. Please let me know what should be of main use from the Packages folder. I need some help with that. 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X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 12 Oct 2005 20:23:23 -0000 Dear: Members Im a newbie and im downloading the packages via ftp. My question is, I have seen the many folders available ,but my concern is with the PACKAGES folder. How much is enough and which should be of choice, so far from reading I've been reading your online doc's, I decided to dl the ( x (files), www, graphichs, emulator among other which I think are important. Do I really need the Latest folder? (It seems very lengthy is it necessary?) Please get back to me on this. I think that the folder (latest) is just direct acess for ftp use from freebsd in case something is not found. Please let me know what should be of main use from the Packages folder. I need some help with that. 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X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 12 Oct 2005 20:26:14 -0000 Dear: Members Im a newbie and im downloading the packages via ftp. My question is, I have seen the many folders available ,but my concern is with the PACKAGES folder. How much is enough and which should be of choice, so far from reading I've been reading your online doc's, I decided to dl the ( x (files), www, graphichs, emulator among other which I think are important. Do I really need the Latest folder? (It seems very lengthy is it necessary?) Please get back to me on this. I think that the folder (latest) is just direct acess for ftp use from freebsd in case something is not found. Please let me know what should be of main use from the Packages folder. I need some help with that. 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From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Oct 12 20:28:08 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A9CA216A41F for ; Wed, 12 Oct 2005 20:28:08 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jbaez444@yahoo.com) Received: from web33714.mail.mud.yahoo.com (web33714.mail.mud.yahoo.com [68.142.201.211]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 3DAEC43D45 for ; Wed, 12 Oct 2005 20:28:08 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jbaez444@yahoo.com) Received: (qmail 5915 invoked by uid 60001); 12 Oct 2005 20:28:07 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=pwZi1YA4SWsCYviHpiEQC9Mc+alyKYGtVw7YLUIMXhzDazHOzR2kstXP31RK0NGiZiADvpr9QMnBzLgmGezGwlNzU6jiI8YH6WtoKcGPYhqc1XYA0kV6OjsfbZX6BNMHYYPlWt16HNNbpRVKWwIU1ylZPHGRr2p+XM8+q3RASkU= ; Message-ID: <20051012202807.5913.qmail@web33714.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Received: from [199.219.138.254] by web33714.mail.mud.yahoo.com via HTTP; Wed, 12 Oct 2005 13:28:07 PDT Date: Wed, 12 Oct 2005 13:28:07 -0700 (PDT) From: John Baez To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: Subject: Re: Immediate Question (Help!) X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 12 Oct 2005 20:28:08 -0000 John Baez wrote:Dear: Members Im a newbie and im downloading the packages via ftp. My question is, I have seen the many folders available ,but my concern is with the PACKAGES folder. How much is enough and which should be of choice, so far from reading I've been reading your online doc's, I decided to dl the ( x (files), www, graphichs, emulator among other which I think are important. Do I really need the Latest folder? (It seems very lengthy is it necessary?) Please get back to me on this. I think that the folder (latest) is just direct acess for ftp use from freebsd in case something is not found. Please let me know what should be of main use from the Packages folder. I need some help with that. 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From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Oct 12 20:41:46 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1E4A116A41F for ; Wed, 12 Oct 2005 20:41:46 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from brdavis@odin.ac.hmc.edu) Received: from odin.ac.hmc.edu (Odin.AC.HMC.Edu [134.173.32.75]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BFCBC43D45 for ; Wed, 12 Oct 2005 20:41:45 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from brdavis@odin.ac.hmc.edu) Received: from odin.ac.hmc.edu (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by odin.ac.hmc.edu (8.13.0/8.13.0) with ESMTP id j9CKfiuq010279; Wed, 12 Oct 2005 13:41:44 -0700 Received: (from brdavis@localhost) by odin.ac.hmc.edu (8.13.0/8.13.0/Submit) id j9CKfi8x010278; Wed, 12 Oct 2005 13:41:44 -0700 Date: Wed, 12 Oct 2005 13:41:44 -0700 From: Brooks Davis To: John Baez Message-ID: <20051012204144.GA9161@odin.ac.hmc.edu> References: <20051012202322.4751.qmail@web33701.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="zYM0uCDKw75PZbzx" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20051012202322.4751.qmail@web33701.mail.mud.yahoo.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=8.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on odin.ac.hmc.edu Cc: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Immediate Question (Help!) X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 12 Oct 2005 20:41:46 -0000 --zYM0uCDKw75PZbzx Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable [This sort of question should be asked on the freebsd-questions list. Also, please configure your mailer to wrap your lines at <78 columns.] On Wed, Oct 12, 2005 at 01:23:22PM -0700, John Baez wrote: > Dear: Members > =20 > Im a newbie and im downloading the packages via ftp. My question is, > I have seen the many folders available ,but my concern is with the > PACKAGES folder. How much is enough and which should be of choice, so > far from reading I've been reading your online doc's, I decided to dl > the ( x (files), www, graphichs, emulator among other which I think > are important. > > Do I really need the Latest folder? (It seems very lengthy is it > necessary?) Please get back to me on this. I think that the folder > (latest) is just direct acess for ftp use from freebsd in case > something is not found. > > Please let me know what should be of main use from the Packages > folder. I need some help with that. In general, you don't want to do this. You want to download only those packages you actually need and their dependencies. Simply downloading directories will result in packages you can't install due to dependencies you didn't download and a lot of wasted bandwidth. It is possible to download everything though that won't get you all ports due to license restrictions. That will require 11GB of disk space and probably be obsolete before you finish. :) -- Brooks --zYM0uCDKw75PZbzx Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFDTXUIXY6L6fI4GtQRAhjAAJwIz6uPHvYeT6ZsL1CnmU7TdMRAswCgljo6 cHn1xAsMurN/fyb1u4tuXC8= =d8hl -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --zYM0uCDKw75PZbzx-- From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Oct 12 20:48:10 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: doc@FreeBSD.org Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4E74316A41F; Wed, 12 Oct 2005 20:48:10 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from hrs@FreeBSD.org) Received: from mail.allbsd.org (vlsi00.si.noda.tus.ac.jp [133.31.130.32]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AF8E043D46; Wed, 12 Oct 2005 20:48:09 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from hrs@FreeBSD.org) Received: from delta.allbsd.org (p13123-adsau14honb8-acca.tokyo.ocn.ne.jp [220.106.49.123]) (authenticated bits=128) by mail.allbsd.org (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id j9CKm55m075551; Thu, 13 Oct 2005 05:48:07 +0900 (JST) (envelope-from hrs@FreeBSD.org) Received: from localhost (alph.allbsd.org [192.168.0.10]) by delta.allbsd.org (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id j9CKlKAP074762; Thu, 13 Oct 2005 05:47:21 +0900 (JST) (envelope-from hrs@FreeBSD.org) Date: Thu, 13 Oct 2005 05:46:28 +0900 (JST) Message-Id: <20051013.054628.126812122.hrs@allbsd.org> To: doc@FreeBSD.org, doc-committers@FreeBSD.org From: Hiroki Sato In-Reply-To: <20051006.113554.00465663.hrs@allbsd.org> References: <20051003.012619.102585493.hrs@allbsd.org> <20051006.113554.00465663.hrs@allbsd.org> X-PGPkey-fingerprint: BDB3 443F A5DD B3D0 A530 FFD7 4F2C D3D8 2793 CF2D X-Mailer: Mew version 4.2.52 on Emacs 21.3 / Mule 5.0 (SAKAKI) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Multipart/Signed; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=pgp-sha1; boundary="--Security_Multipart(Thu_Oct_13_05_46_28_2005_432)--" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV version 0.86.2, clamav-milter version 0.86 on gatekeeper.allbsd.org X-Virus-Status: Clean Cc: doceng@FreeBSD.org, re@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: HEADS UP: doc/ slush for 6.0R begins on 5 October, 2005 X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 12 Oct 2005 20:48:10 -0000 ----Security_Multipart(Thu_Oct_13_05_46_28_2005_432)-- Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi all, Hiroki Sato wrote in <20051006.113554.00465663.hrs@allbsd.org>: hr> While merging the new web design is in progress, the doc tree is hr> now in a slush except for the related fixes as announced. Please hr> postpone all non-essential changes for the English documents hr> until after the doc tree is tagged (currently scheduled on hr> 10 October, 2005). The doc tree has been tagged for 6.0-RELEASE. If you notice there is a problem or have a change which must be included in the release, please let me know. You can consider the doc tree is open for commits now, but any sweeping changes should be postponed until after the release day. Thank you for your cooperation and keep up the good work! -- | Hiroki SATO ----Security_Multipart(Thu_Oct_13_05_46_28_2005_432)-- Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.2 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQBDTXYmTyzT2CeTzy0RAsIkAKDFXAVxqE9TnYMEhcbeTkTLB0KewACfVzyx +wtrAeQcD+OPp4qwJ6awINI= =+6wL -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- ----Security_Multipart(Thu_Oct_13_05_46_28_2005_432)---- From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Oct 12 23:17:40 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: doc@FreeBSD.org Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AA2D216A420; Wed, 12 Oct 2005 23:17:40 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ceri@submonkey.net) Received: from shrike.submonkey.net (cpc2-cdif2-3-1-cust208.cdif.cable.ntl.com [82.31.78.208]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 728E543D46; Wed, 12 Oct 2005 23:17:35 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ceri@submonkey.net) Received: from ceri by shrike.submonkey.net with local (Exim 4.54 (FreeBSD)) id 1EPpqn-000Nw2-T8; Thu, 13 Oct 2005 00:17:33 +0100 Date: Thu, 13 Oct 2005 00:17:33 +0100 From: Ceri Davies To: Hiroki Sato Message-ID: <20051012231733.GL99170@submonkey.net> Mail-Followup-To: Ceri Davies , Hiroki Sato , doc@FreeBSD.org References: <20051003.012619.102585493.hrs@allbsd.org> <20051006.113554.00465663.hrs@allbsd.org> <20051013.054628.126812122.hrs@allbsd.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="ReXtUC6oQrwpduSE" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20051013.054628.126812122.hrs@allbsd.org> X-PGP: finger ceri@FreeBSD.org User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.11 Sender: Ceri Davies Cc: doc@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: HEADS UP: doc/ slush for 6.0R begins on 5 October, 2005 X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 12 Oct 2005 23:17:40 -0000 --ReXtUC6oQrwpduSE Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="p+SyGXcYc+aq/C8k" Content-Disposition: inline --p+SyGXcYc+aq/C8k Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Thu, Oct 13, 2005 at 05:46:28AM +0900, Hiroki Sato wrote: > Hi all, >=20 > Hiroki Sato wrote > in <20051006.113554.00465663.hrs@allbsd.org>: >=20 > hr> While merging the new web design is in progress, the doc tree is > hr> now in a slush except for the related fixes as announced. Please > hr> postpone all non-essential changes for the English documents > hr> until after the doc tree is tagged (currently scheduled on > hr> 10 October, 2005). >=20 > The doc tree has been tagged for 6.0-RELEASE. If you notice > there is a problem or have a change which must be included in the > release, please let me know. >=20 > You can consider the doc tree is open for commits now, but any > sweeping changes should be postponed until after the release day. Does this count as sweeping? It gets rid of all the xnnn.html files generated by {open,}jade. Ceri --=20 Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former. -- Einstein (attrib.) --p+SyGXcYc+aq/C8k Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="no-x.diff" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Index: dialup-firewall/article.sgml =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D RCS file: /home/dcvs/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/articles/dialup-firewall/article.s= gml,v retrieving revision 1.41 diff -u -r1.41 article.sgml --- dialup-firewall/article.sgml 5 Jan 2005 12:09:47 -0000 1.41 +++ dialup-firewall/article.sgml 10 Oct 2005 17:25:20 -0000 @@ -124,7 +124,7 @@ &man.rc.conf.5; =20 - + Enable PPP's network address translation =20 In order to allow clients on your network to connect via @@ -224,7 +224,7 @@ suggestions to improve this page, please email me. =20 - + Questions =20 Index: diskless-x/article.sgml =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D RCS file: /home/dcvs/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/articles/diskless-x/article.sgml,v retrieving revision 1.17 diff -u -r1.17 article.sgml --- diskless-x/article.sgml 29 Nov 2004 21:43:33 -0000 1.17 +++ diskless-x/article.sgml 10 Oct 2005 17:25:21 -0000 @@ -58,7 +58,7 @@ =20 - + Creating the boot floppy (On the diskless system) =20 Since the network boot loaders will not work with some of the TS= R's @@ -102,7 +102,7 @@ =20 - + Getting the network boot programs (On the server) =20 Compile the net-boot programs that are located in @@ -116,7 +116,7 @@ put both programs on the &ms-dos; boot floppy created earlier. =20 - + Determine which program to run (On the diskless system) =20 If you know the chipset that your Ethernet adapter uses, this is @@ -128,7 +128,7 @@ your own. =20 - + Booting across the network =20 Boot the diskless system with out any config.sys/autoexec.bat @@ -162,7 +162,7 @@ Makefile correctly. =20 - + Allowing systems to boot across the network (On the server)</ti= tle> =20 <para>Make sure the <filename>/etc/inetd.conf</filename> file has entr= ies Index: euro/article.sgml =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D RCS file: /home/dcvs/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/articles/euro/article.sgml,v retrieving revision 1.11 diff -u -r1.11 article.sgml --- euro/article.sgml 18 Aug 2005 07:53:23 -0000 1.11 +++ euro/article.sgml 10 Oct 2005 17:25:21 -0000 @@ -52,7 +52,7 @@ </abstract> </articleinfo> =20 - <sect1> + <sect1 id=3D"euro-in-a-nutshell"> <title>The Euro in a nutshell =20 If you already feel comfortable with=20 Index: formatting-media/article.sgml =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D RCS file: /home/dcvs/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/articles/formatting-media/article.= sgml,v retrieving revision 1.29 diff -u -r1.29 article.sgml --- formatting-media/article.sgml 9 Aug 2004 19:49:16 -0000 1.29 +++ formatting-media/article.sgml 10 Oct 2005 17:25:21 -0000 @@ -41,10 +41,10 @@ =20 - + Introduction & Definitions =20 - + Overview =20 Successfully adding disks to an existing system is the @@ -95,7 +95,7 @@ manipulation. =20 - + Definitions =20 &unix; disk management over the centuries has invented many @@ -157,7 +157,7 @@ =20 - + Warnings & Pitfalls =20 Building disks is not something to take lightly. It is @@ -174,7 +174,7 @@ your own risk! =20 - + Zip, Jaz, and Other Removables =20 Removable disks can be formatted in the same way as normal @@ -194,10 +194,10 @@ =20 - + Formatting Disks in Dedicated Mode =20 - + Introduction =20 This section details how to make disks that are totally @@ -205,7 +205,7 @@ cannot be booted by the PC architecture. =20 - + Making Dedicated Mode Disks using Sysinstall =20 /stand/sysinstall, the system @@ -308,7 +308,7 @@ =20 - + Making Dedicated Mode Disks Using the Command Line =20 Execute the following commands, replacing ad2 with the @@ -337,10 +337,10 @@ =20 - + Making Compatibility Mode Disks =20 - + Introduction =20 The command line is the easiest way to make dedicated @@ -351,7 +351,7 @@ compatibility disks, as described below. =20 - + Making Compatibility Mode Disks Using Sysinstall =20 @@ -447,10 +447,10 @@ =20 - + Other Disk Operations =20 - + Adding Swap Space =20 As a system grows, its need for swap space can also grow. @@ -500,7 +500,7 @@ =20 - + Copying the Contents of Disks =20 @@ -520,7 +520,7 @@ =20 - + Creating Striped Disks using CCD =20 Commands Submitted By: Stan Brown @@ -596,7 +596,7 @@ =20 - + Credits =20 The author would like to thank the following individuals for Index: freebsd-questions/article.sgml =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D RCS file: /home/dcvs/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/articles/freebsd-questions/article= =2Esgml,v retrieving revision 1.24 diff -u -r1.24 article.sgml --- freebsd-questions/article.sgml 28 Sep 2005 11:08:15 -0000 1.24 +++ freebsd-questions/article.sgml 10 Oct 2005 17:25:21 -0000 @@ -39,8 +39,8 @@ =20 - - Introduction + + Introduction =20 FreeBSD-questions is a mailing list maintaine= d by the FreeBSD project to help people who have questions about the norm= al @@ -77,8 +77,8 @@ a question; after that, we will look at how to answer one. =20 - - How to subscribe to FreeBSD-questions + + How to subscribe to FreeBSD-questions =20 FreeBSD-questions is a mailing list, so you need mail access. P= oint your WWW browser to the information= page of the FreeBSD-questions mailing list. @@ -104,8 +104,8 @@ there. See the next section for more details. =20 - - How to unsubscribe from FreeBSD-questions</t= itle> + <sect1 id=3D"unsubscribe"> + <title>How to unsubscribe from FreeBSD-questions =20 When you subscribed to FreeBSD-questions, you got a welcome mess= age from mailman. In this message, amongst @@ -162,8 +162,8 @@ FreeBSD-questions: they can not help you. =20 - - Should I ask <literal>-questions</literal> or + <sect1 id=3D"askwho"> + <title>Should I ask <literal>-questions</literal> or <literal>-hackers</literal>? =20 Two mailing lists handle general questions about FreeBSD, @@ -210,8 +210,8 @@ good results that way. =20 - - Before submitting a question + + Before submitting a question =20 You can (and should) do some things yourself before asking a que= stion on one of the mailing lists: @@ -257,8 +257,8 @@ =20 - - How to submit a question + + How to submit a question =20 When submitting a question to FreeBSD-questions, consider the following points: @@ -473,8 +473,8 @@ =20 - - How to follow up to a question + + How to follow up to a question =20 Often you will want to send in additional information to a quest= ion you have already sent. The best way to do this is to reply to your @@ -503,8 +503,8 @@ =20 - - How to answer a question + + How to answer a question =20 =20 Before you answer a question to FreeBSD-questions, consider: Index: java-tomcat/article.sgml =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D RCS file: /home/dcvs/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/articles/java-tomcat/article.sgml,v retrieving revision 1.27 diff -u -r1.27 article.sgml --- java-tomcat/article.sgml 22 Feb 2005 09:25:45 -0000 1.27 +++ java-tomcat/article.sgml 10 Oct 2005 17:25:22 -0000 @@ -102,7 +102,7 @@ =20 - + Introduction =20 The &java; programming language was released on May 23rd @@ -140,7 +140,7 @@ further reading.=09 =20 - + The &java; Environment =20 Ensure that you have the current ports collection as @@ -308,10 +308,10 @@ &jdk;) will take some time. =20 - + Jakarta Tomcat Setup =20 - + Overview =20 &java; is becoming an even more popular for making diverse @@ -400,7 +400,7 @@ =20 - + The Tomcat environment for FreeBSD =20 It is very simple to install Tomcat on a FreeBSD machine, @@ -494,7 +494,7 @@ =20 - + Operating Tomcat - Basics =20 Now that we have finished installing Tomcat. The following @@ -593,7 +593,7 @@ =20 - + Conclusion =20 Finally, we are at the end of the article and have a working Index: mh/article.sgml =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D RCS file: /home/dcvs/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/articles/mh/article.sgml,v retrieving revision 1.25 diff -u -r1.25 article.sgml --- mh/article.sgml 9 Aug 2004 19:49:16 -0000 1.25 +++ mh/article.sgml 10 Oct 2005 17:25:22 -0000 @@ -99,7 +99,7 @@ Programmers. =20 - + Reading Mail =20 This section covers how to use inc, @@ -349,7 +349,7 @@ =20 - + Folders and Mail Searching =20 Anybody who gets lots of email definitely wants to be able @@ -630,7 +630,7 @@ =20 - + Sending Mail =20 Email is a two way street for most people so you want to be Index: multi-os/article.sgml =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D RCS file: /home/dcvs/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/articles/multi-os/article.sgml,v retrieving revision 1.39 diff -u -r1.39 article.sgml --- multi-os/article.sgml 9 Aug 2004 19:49:17 -0000 1.39 +++ multi-os/article.sgml 10 Oct 2005 17:25:23 -0000 @@ -375,7 +375,7 @@ url=3D"file://localhost/usr/src/sys/i386/boot/biosboot/README.386BSD">/us= r/src/sys/i386/boot/biosboot/README.386BSD. =20 - + Technical Details =20 (Contributed by Randall Hopper, Index: new-users/article.sgml =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D RCS file: /home/dcvs/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/articles/new-users/article.sgml,v retrieving revision 1.47 diff -u -r1.47 article.sgml --- new-users/article.sgml 9 Aug 2004 19:49:17 -0000 1.47 +++ new-users/article.sgml 10 Oct 2005 17:25:23 -0000 @@ -44,7 +44,7 @@ =20 - + Logging in and Getting Out =20 Log in (when you see login:) as a user you @@ -94,7 +94,7 @@ do not want to have to reinstall this thing, do you? =20 - + Adding A User with Root Privileges =20 If you did not create any users when you installed the system @@ -153,7 +153,7 @@ command. =20 - + Looking Around =20 Logged in as an ordinary user, look around and try out some @@ -277,7 +277,7 @@ /etc/csh.cshrc. =20 - + Getting Help and Information =20 Here are some useful sources of help. @@ -417,7 +417,7 @@ ISBN 0-596-00343-9). I used Nemeth. =20 - + Editing Text =20 To configure your system, you need to edit text files. Most @@ -611,7 +611,7 @@ put a space after the comma, did you?) =20 - + Printing Files from DOS =20 At this point you probably do not have the printer working, @@ -699,7 +699,7 @@ handbook. =20 - + Other Useful Commands =20 @@ -789,7 +789,7 @@ There is also a lot of &unix; information on the Internet. =20 - + Next Steps =20 You should now have the tools you need to get around and @@ -917,7 +917,7 @@ /usr/local/netscape/netscape. =20 - + Your Working Environment =20 Your shell is the most important part of your working @@ -1021,7 +1021,7 @@ vt100. =20 - + Other =20 As root, you can unmount the CDROM with @@ -1044,7 +1044,7 @@ man lndir. =20 - + Comments Welcome =20 If you use this guide I would be interested in knowing where it --p+SyGXcYc+aq/C8k-- --ReXtUC6oQrwpduSE Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.2 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFDTZmNocfcwTS3JF8RAmMuAJ4jeW2VM0cSa4zYbIGecTxIJbNG4wCgiPGA chxkW8RGm0/UndQ8+TL9wbE= =3Wq7 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --ReXtUC6oQrwpduSE-- From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Oct 13 00:10:20 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-doc@hub.freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@hub.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1DD4F16A41F for ; Thu, 13 Oct 2005 00:10:20 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6A15743D48 for ; Thu, 13 Oct 2005 00:10:19 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (gnats@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.13.3/8.13.3) with ESMTP id j9D0AJ4h081908 for ; Thu, 13 Oct 2005 00:10:19 GMT (envelope-from gnats@freefall.freebsd.org) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.13.3/8.13.1/Submit) id j9D0AJsc081907; Thu, 13 Oct 2005 00:10:19 GMT (envelope-from gnats) Resent-Date: Thu, 13 Oct 2005 00:10:19 GMT Resent-Message-Id: <200510130010.j9D0AJsc081907@freefall.freebsd.org> Resent-From: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.org (GNATS Filer) Resent-To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Resent-Reply-To: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.org, "Eli K. Breen" Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C5B0116A41F for ; Thu, 13 Oct 2005 00:05:29 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from nobody@FreeBSD.org) Received: from www.freebsd.org (www.freebsd.org [216.136.204.117]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 929BD43D48 for ; Thu, 13 Oct 2005 00:05:29 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from nobody@FreeBSD.org) Received: from www.freebsd.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by www.freebsd.org (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id j9D05THw027381 for ; Thu, 13 Oct 2005 00:05:29 GMT (envelope-from nobody@www.freebsd.org) Received: (from nobody@localhost) by www.freebsd.org (8.13.1/8.13.1/Submit) id j9D05Tnm027376; Thu, 13 Oct 2005 00:05:29 GMT (envelope-from nobody) Message-Id: <200510130005.j9D05Tnm027376@www.freebsd.org> Date: Thu, 13 Oct 2005 00:05:29 GMT From: "Eli K. Breen" To: freebsd-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.org X-Send-Pr-Version: www-2.3 Cc: Subject: docs/87351: Jail building instructions don't work as described with default CSH shell X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 13 Oct 2005 00:10:20 -0000 >Number: 87351 >Category: docs >Synopsis: Jail building instructions don't work as described with default CSH shell >Confidential: no >Severity: non-critical >Priority: medium >Responsible: freebsd-doc >State: open >Quarter: >Keywords: >Date-Required: >Class: doc-bug >Submitter-Id: current-users >Arrival-Date: Thu Oct 13 00:10:18 GMT 2005 >Closed-Date: >Last-Modified: >Originator: Eli K. Breen >Release: FreeBSD 5.4-RELEASE >Organization: UNIX|Forge Heavy Industries >Environment: FreeBSD cannon.activestate.com 5.4-RELEASE FreeBSD 5.4-RELEASE #0: Tue Aug 16 13:02:01 PDT 2005 root@cannon.activestate.com:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/LONGSHOT_II i386 >Description: Building jails does not work as perscribed in the man (8) jail docs. The default shell for root on a new and stock FreeBSD box is csh, the instruction include the line: D=/path/to/your/jail ..which does not work under csh, this returns a Command Not Found error. >How-To-Repeat: switch to csh, try to build a jail using the supplied instructions from the jail(8) manpage. .. user@box# csh user@box# D=/path/to/your/jail D=/path/to/your/jail: Command not found. user@box# >Fix: jail manpage currently reads: D=/here/is/the/jail cd /usr/src mkdir -p $D make world DESTDIR=$D cd etc make distribution DESTDIR=$D mount_devfs devfs $D/dev cd $D ln -sf dev/null kernel ..and should read: set D=/here/is/the/jail cd /usr/src mkdir -p $D make world DESTDIR=$D cd etc make distribution DESTDIR=$D mount_devfs devfs $D/dev cd $D ln -sf dev/null kernel .. or specify that the instructions do not work under csh. >Release-Note: >Audit-Trail: >Unformatted: From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Oct 13 04:32:54 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-doc@hub.freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@hub.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C144016A47E; Thu, 13 Oct 2005 04:32:54 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from linimon@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5D05743D8D; Thu, 13 Oct 2005 04:32:40 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from linimon@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (linimon@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.13.3/8.13.3) with ESMTP id j9D4WdwE018119; Thu, 13 Oct 2005 04:32:39 GMT (envelope-from linimon@freefall.freebsd.org) Received: (from linimon@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.13.3/8.13.1/Submit) id j9D4Wd4P018115; Thu, 13 Oct 2005 04:32:39 GMT (envelope-from linimon) Date: Thu, 13 Oct 2005 04:32:39 GMT From: Mark Linimon Message-Id: <200510130432.j9D4Wd4P018115@freefall.freebsd.org> To: linimon@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-bugs@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Cc: Subject: Re: docs/87355: [patch] there is a critical typo that will not allow the bridge to workFreeBSD Handbook Section 26.3.3.2.2 Setting It Up - X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 13 Oct 2005 04:32:55 -0000 Old Synopsis: there is a critical typo that will not allow the bridge to workFreeBSD Handbook Section 26.3.3.2.2 Setting It Up - New Synopsis: [patch] there is a critical typo that will not allow the bridge to workFreeBSD Handbook Section 26.3.3.2.2 Setting It Up - Responsible-Changed-From-To: freebsd-bugs->freebsd-doc Responsible-Changed-By: linimon Responsible-Changed-When: Thu Oct 13 04:31:39 GMT 2005 Responsible-Changed-Why: Documentation bug. http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=87355 From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Oct 13 16:02:10 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-doc@hub.freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@hub.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4A94616A420; Thu, 13 Oct 2005 16:02:10 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jhb@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C83AF43D48; Thu, 13 Oct 2005 16:02:09 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jhb@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (jhb@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.13.3/8.13.3) with ESMTP id j9DG2929010840; Thu, 13 Oct 2005 16:02:09 GMT (envelope-from jhb@freefall.freebsd.org) Received: (from jhb@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.13.3/8.13.1/Submit) id j9DG29OZ010835; Thu, 13 Oct 2005 16:02:09 GMT (envelope-from jhb) Date: Thu, 13 Oct 2005 16:02:09 GMT From: John Baldwin Message-Id: <200510131602.j9DG29OZ010835@freefall.freebsd.org> To: mjl@luckie.org.nz, jhb@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org, jhb@FreeBSD.org Cc: Subject: Re: docs/87147: [patch] src/share/man/man9/microtime.9 history correction X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 13 Oct 2005 16:02:10 -0000 Synopsis: [patch] src/share/man/man9/microtime.9 history correction State-Changed-From-To: open->patched State-Changed-By: jhb State-Changed-When: Thu Oct 13 16:01:39 GMT 2005 State-Changed-Why: Fix applied to HEAD, will merge to 6.x and 5.x after a few days. Thanks! Responsible-Changed-From-To: freebsd-doc->jhb Responsible-Changed-By: jhb Responsible-Changed-When: Thu Oct 13 16:01:39 GMT 2005 Responsible-Changed-Why: Fix applied to HEAD, will merge to 6.x and 5.x after a few days. Thanks! http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=87147 From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Oct 13 16:51:02 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: doc@FreeBSD.org Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 194D716A420 for ; Thu, 13 Oct 2005 16:51:02 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from hrs@FreeBSD.org) Received: from mail.allbsd.org (vlsi00.si.noda.tus.ac.jp [133.31.130.32]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 85C2B43D45 for ; Thu, 13 Oct 2005 16:51:01 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from hrs@FreeBSD.org) Received: from delta.allbsd.org (p13123-adsau14honb8-acca.tokyo.ocn.ne.jp [220.106.49.123]) (authenticated bits=128) by mail.allbsd.org (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id j9DGoxnj087030; Fri, 14 Oct 2005 01:51:00 +0900 (JST) (envelope-from hrs@FreeBSD.org) Received: from localhost (alph.allbsd.org [192.168.0.10]) by delta.allbsd.org (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id j9DGol18081184; Fri, 14 Oct 2005 01:50:50 +0900 (JST) (envelope-from hrs@FreeBSD.org) Date: Fri, 14 Oct 2005 01:50:44 +0900 (JST) Message-Id: <20051014.015044.102184242.hrs@allbsd.org> To: ceri@submonkey.net From: Hiroki Sato In-Reply-To: <20051012231733.GL99170@submonkey.net> References: <20051006.113554.00465663.hrs@allbsd.org> <20051013.054628.126812122.hrs@allbsd.org> <20051012231733.GL99170@submonkey.net> X-PGPkey-fingerprint: BDB3 443F A5DD B3D0 A530 FFD7 4F2C D3D8 2793 CF2D X-Mailer: Mew version 4.2.52 on Emacs 21.3 / Mule 5.0 (SAKAKI) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Multipart/Signed; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=pgp-sha1; boundary="--Security_Multipart(Fri_Oct_14_01_50_44_2005_722)--" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV version 0.86.2, clamav-milter version 0.86 on gatekeeper.allbsd.org X-Virus-Status: Clean Cc: doc@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: HEADS UP: doc/ slush for 6.0R begins on 5 October, 2005 X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 13 Oct 2005 16:51:02 -0000 ----Security_Multipart(Fri_Oct_14_01_50_44_2005_722)-- Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi Ceri, Ceri Davies wrote in <20051012231733.GL99170@submonkey.net>: ce> On Thu, Oct 13, 2005 at 05:46:28AM +0900, Hiroki Sato wrote: ce> > You can consider the doc tree is open for commits now, but any ce> > sweeping changes should be postponed until after the release day. ce> ce> Does this count as sweeping? It gets rid of all the xnnn.html files ce> generated by {open,}jade. No, I think there is no problem. Please go ahead. -- | Hiroki SATO ----Security_Multipart(Fri_Oct_14_01_50_44_2005_722)-- Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.2 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQBDTpBkTyzT2CeTzy0RArPJAJ9niQeRbCVLBCJYGM8SgaVuypuDywCZAfmW 1jw2R9n1v35+55w4lmkSU5Y= =DG0X -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- ----Security_Multipart(Fri_Oct_14_01_50_44_2005_722)---- From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Oct 13 16:59:22 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-doc@hub.freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@hub.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4E12F16A420; Thu, 13 Oct 2005 16:59:22 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jhb@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 23BD843D45; Thu, 13 Oct 2005 16:59:22 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jhb@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (jhb@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.13.3/8.13.3) with ESMTP id j9DGxMjF018927; Thu, 13 Oct 2005 16:59:22 GMT (envelope-from jhb@freefall.freebsd.org) Received: (from jhb@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.13.3/8.13.1/Submit) id j9DGxLtk018923; Thu, 13 Oct 2005 16:59:21 GMT (envelope-from jhb) Date: Thu, 13 Oct 2005 16:59:21 GMT From: John Baldwin Message-Id: <200510131659.j9DGxLtk018923@freefall.freebsd.org> To: dodell@offmyserver.com, jhb@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org, jhb@FreeBSD.org Cc: Subject: Re: docs/87176: X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 13 Oct 2005 16:59:22 -0000 Synopsis: State-Changed-From-To: open->patched State-Changed-By: jhb State-Changed-When: Thu Oct 13 16:58:02 GMT 2005 State-Changed-Why: Committed with some expansion. The softc is also available during a driver's probe routine, but it is only persisent from probe to attach in a particular sitation as described in DEVICE_PROBE(9). Thanks for the report and patch, will be merged to 5 and 6 in a few days. Responsible-Changed-From-To: freebsd-doc->jhb Responsible-Changed-By: jhb Responsible-Changed-When: Thu Oct 13 16:58:02 GMT 2005 Responsible-Changed-Why: Committed with some expansion. The softc is also available during a driver's probe routine, but it is only persisent from probe to attach in a particular sitation as described in DEVICE_PROBE(9). Thanks for the report and patch, will be merged to 5 and 6 in a few days. http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=87176 From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Oct 13 17:02:18 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0B6BE16A422; Thu, 13 Oct 2005 17:02:18 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jhb@freebsd.org) Received: from mv.twc.weather.com (mv.twc.weather.com [65.212.71.225]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4358C43D45; Thu, 13 Oct 2005 17:02:17 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jhb@freebsd.org) Received: from [10.50.41.234] (Not Verified[10.50.41.234]) by mv.twc.weather.com with NetIQ MailMarshal (v6, 0, 3, 8) id ; Thu, 13 Oct 2005 13:18:37 -0400 From: John Baldwin To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org, Xin LI Date: Thu, 13 Oct 2005 13:03:34 -0400 User-Agent: KMail/1.8.2 References: <200510120227.j9C2RiUd071904@backup.sinamail.sina.com.cn> In-Reply-To: <200510120227.j9C2RiUd071904@backup.sinamail.sina.com.cn> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-6" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200510131303.37436.jhb@freebsd.org> Cc: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@freebsd.org, scottl@freebsd.org, obrien@freebsd.org Subject: Re: docs/87302: [PATCH] Mention the fact that hptmv(4) works on amd64 as well X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 13 Oct 2005 17:02:18 -0000 On Tuesday 11 October 2005 10:27 pm, Xin LI wrote: > >Number: 87302 > >Category: docs > >Synopsis: [PATCH] Mention the fact that hptmv(4) works on amd64 as > > well Looks fine to me. Xin, you can just go ahead and commit it yourself. -- John Baldwin <>< http://www.FreeBSD.org/~jhb/ "Power Users Use the Power to Serve" = http://www.FreeBSD.org From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Oct 13 17:10:24 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-doc@hub.freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@hub.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9953E16A41F for ; Thu, 13 Oct 2005 17:10:24 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 68D7543D48 for ; Thu, 13 Oct 2005 17:10:24 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (gnats@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.13.3/8.13.3) with ESMTP id j9DHAOEP025459 for ; Thu, 13 Oct 2005 17:10:24 GMT (envelope-from gnats@freefall.freebsd.org) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.13.3/8.13.1/Submit) id j9DHAOmN025458; Thu, 13 Oct 2005 17:10:24 GMT (envelope-from gnats) Date: Thu, 13 Oct 2005 17:10:24 GMT Message-Id: <200510131710.j9DHAOmN025458@freefall.freebsd.org> To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org From: John Baldwin Cc: Subject: Re: docs/87302: [PATCH] Mention the fact that hptmv(4) works on amd64 as well X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: John Baldwin List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 13 Oct 2005 17:10:24 -0000 The following reply was made to PR docs/87302; it has been noted by GNATS. From: John Baldwin To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org, Xin LI Cc: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@freebsd.org, scottl@freebsd.org, obrien@freebsd.org Subject: Re: docs/87302: [PATCH] Mention the fact that hptmv(4) works on amd64 as well Date: Thu, 13 Oct 2005 13:03:34 -0400 On Tuesday 11 October 2005 10:27 pm, Xin LI wrote: > >Number: 87302 > >Category: docs > >Synopsis: [PATCH] Mention the fact that hptmv(4) works on amd64 as > > well Looks fine to me. Xin, you can just go ahead and commit it yourself. -- John Baldwin <>< http://www.FreeBSD.org/~jhb/ "Power Users Use the Power to Serve" = http://www.FreeBSD.org From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Oct 13 17:21:08 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-doc@hub.freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@hub.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AD16416A42F; Thu, 13 Oct 2005 17:21:08 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from delphij@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6BC4A43D45; Thu, 13 Oct 2005 17:21:08 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from delphij@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (delphij@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.13.3/8.13.3) with ESMTP id j9DHL8JA027624; Thu, 13 Oct 2005 17:21:08 GMT (envelope-from delphij@freefall.freebsd.org) Received: (from delphij@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.13.3/8.13.1/Submit) id j9DHL85T027620; Thu, 13 Oct 2005 17:21:08 GMT (envelope-from delphij) Date: Thu, 13 Oct 2005 17:21:08 GMT From: Xin LI Message-Id: <200510131721.j9DHL85T027620@freefall.freebsd.org> To: delphij@FreeBSD.org, delphij@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org, delphij@FreeBSD.org Cc: Subject: Re: docs/87302: [PATCH] Mention the fact that hptmv(4) works on amd64 as well X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 13 Oct 2005 17:21:08 -0000 Synopsis: [PATCH] Mention the fact that hptmv(4) works on amd64 as well State-Changed-From-To: open->patched State-Changed-By: delphij State-Changed-When: Thu Oct 13 17:20:35 GMT 2005 State-Changed-Why: My own PR for MFC reminder Responsible-Changed-From-To: freebsd-doc->delphij Responsible-Changed-By: delphij Responsible-Changed-When: Thu Oct 13 17:20:35 GMT 2005 Responsible-Changed-Why: My own PR for MFC reminder http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=87302 From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Oct 13 20:26:43 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: doc@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 33B0B16A420 for ; Thu, 13 Oct 2005 20:26:43 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jrhett@meer.net) Received: from outbound0.sv.meer.net (outbound0.sv.meer.net [205.217.152.13]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 07F4443D5D for ; Thu, 13 Oct 2005 20:26:39 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jrhett@meer.net) Received: from mail.meer.net (mail.meer.net [209.157.152.14]) by outbound0.sv.meer.net (8.12.10/8.12.6) with ESMTP id j9DKKYsi007162 for ; Thu, 13 Oct 2005 13:20:34 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jrhett@meer.net) Received: from [10.66.240.106] (karlstad-public.sv.meer.net [205.217.152.21]) by mail.meer.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/meer) with ESMTP id j9DKKPcn014654 for ; Thu, 13 Oct 2005 13:20:25 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jrhett@meer.net) Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v623) Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <798f8ecc1cd0d654feb59c63d84519e0@meer.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=WINDOWS-1252; delsp=yes; format=flowed To: doc@freebsd.org From: Joe Rhett Date: Thu, 13 Oct 2005 13:19:10 -0700 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.623) Cc: Subject: comments for improvement of handbook/kernelconfig-config.html X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 13 Oct 2005 20:26:43 -0000 http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/kernelconfig-=20= config.html I'd like to offer some quick comments, after spending several hours =20 reading and googling only to verify the fairly obvious but that wasn't =20= spelled out. My comments to improve this page include 1. Start the beginning. What does the kernel configuration file do? =20= If the following statement is true, let's put this (or something =20 similar) somewhere near the top: "The kernel configuratioon file defines the modules which will = be =20 built statically into the kernel. You would change this file to remove =20= modules from your kernel, or to change some kernel options. It does not =20= limit or prevent you from adding dynamically loadable modules later. =20= If you want to include a loadable module in your kernel, you don't need =20= to rebuild your kernel configuration." This appears to be true, and running several kernel builds appears to =20= prove it, but just determining whether or not it was true was downright =20= difficult. 2. Move the comment about NOTES/LINT to the bottom. It's unlikely that =20= your average kernel builder would care about most of this stuff, and =20 they should read to the bottom anyway. It's kindof "if we didn't talk =20= about it here..." kind of comment anyway. It certainly confuses the =20 subject when you first hit this page. 3. Identify which modules are required for a kernel to boot. Or have =20= some discussion of this. And in general -- what does it mean when I =20 remove a module? Can I remove plip from the kernel but have it =20 installed as a .ko so that I can load it dynamically later on if by =20 some reason I decide to use it? What's the limitations of this =20 approach? And lastly, stop with the intertwined 4.x and 5.x (and soon 6.x) =20 comments. If there are different answers, put them in separate blocks. =20= Maybe color them separately. It's incredibly frustrating to go =20 through a paragraph and then hit an else near the end that makes you =20 wonder just how many statements before the else are being negated. > device gif # IPv6 and IPv4 tunneling > > This implements IPv6 over IPv4 tunneling, IPv4 over IPv6 tunneling, =20= > IPv4 over IPv4 tunneling, and IPv6 over IPv6 tunneling. Beginning with = =20 > FreeBSD 4.4 the gif device is =93auto-cloning=94, and you should use = the =20 > line pseudo-device gif. Earlier versions of FreeBSD 4.X require a =20 > number, for example pseudo-device gif 4. Huh? What? Did I read this right? Instead, why not: > FreeBSD 5/6: > device gif # IPv6 and IPv4 tunneling > > FreeBSD 4.4 and above: > pseudo-device gif # IPv6 and IPv4 tunneling > > FreeBSD 4.3 and earlier: > pseudo-device gif 4 # the number of IPv6 and IPv4 tunneling = =20 > interfaces > > This implements IPv6 over IPv4 tunneling, IPv4 over IPv6 tunneling, =20= > IPv4 over IPv4 tunneling, and IPv6 over IPv6 tunneling. Beginning with = =20 > FreeBSD 4.4 the gif device is =93auto-cloning=94. Earlier versions of =20= > FreeBSD 4.X require a number, for example pseudo-device gif 4. --=20 Joe Rhett senior geek svcolo : meer.net= From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Oct 13 23:00:32 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-doc@hub.freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@hub.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2CB3516A41F for ; Thu, 13 Oct 2005 23:00:32 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DBF3443D45 for ; Thu, 13 Oct 2005 23:00:31 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (gnats@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.13.3/8.13.3) with ESMTP id j9DN0VfZ080751 for ; Thu, 13 Oct 2005 23:00:31 GMT (envelope-from gnats@freefall.freebsd.org) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.13.3/8.13.1/Submit) id j9DN0VuX080749; Thu, 13 Oct 2005 23:00:31 GMT (envelope-from gnats) Date: Thu, 13 Oct 2005 23:00:31 GMT Message-Id: <200510132300.j9DN0VuX080749@freefall.freebsd.org> To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org From: Nate Eldredge Cc: Subject: Re: docs/86342: bikeshed entry of Handbook is wrong X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Nate Eldredge List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 13 Oct 2005 23:00:32 -0000 The following reply was made to PR docs/86342; it has been noted by GNATS. From: Nate Eldredge To: bug-followup@FreeBSD.org, mi@aldan.algebra.com Cc: Subject: Re: docs/86342: bikeshed entry of Handbook is wrong Date: Thu, 13 Oct 2005 15:56:53 -0700 (PDT) Okay, but I think "derogatory" should be changed to "disparaging" and "essential parts" should be changed to "basic features". ;-) -- Nate Eldredge nge@cs.hmc.edu From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Oct 14 09:18:46 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: doc@FreeBSD.org Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C82C616A41F for ; Fri, 14 Oct 2005 09:18:46 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from david.navara@nuabi.com) Received: from smtp-out3.iol.cz (smtp-out3.iol.cz [194.228.2.91]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 00C3143D46 for ; Fri, 14 Oct 2005 09:18:45 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from david.navara@nuabi.com) Received: from antivir3.iol.cz (unknown [192.168.30.206]) by smtp-out3.iol.cz (Internet on Line ESMTP server) with ESMTP id CE716318256 for ; Fri, 14 Oct 2005 11:18:42 +0200 (CEST) Received: from localhost (antivir3.iol.cz [127.0.0.1]) by antivir3.iol.cz (Postfix) with ESMTP id C299B6DC002 for ; Fri, 14 Oct 2005 11:18:42 +0200 (CEST) Received: from smtp-out3.iol.cz (unknown [192.168.30.28]) by antivir3.iol.cz (Postfix) with ESMTP id E36E96DC007 for ; Fri, 14 Oct 2005 11:18:41 +0200 (CEST) Received: from atol (unknown [82.208.37.65]) by smtp-out3.iol.cz (Internet on Line ESMTP server) with ESMTP id A48EA3C160 for ; Fri, 14 Oct 2005 11:18:41 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <000601c5d0a0$45f86a60$ef02a8c0@atol> From: "nuabi - David Navara" To: Date: Fri, 14 Oct 2005 11:18:42 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at iol.cz Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-2" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: Subject: Direct funding X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 14 Oct 2005 09:18:47 -0000 Hello FreeBSD team, how much should we donate to the FreeBSD project team that our donation = would be useful enough for you that you would list us in the "Direct = funding" section on this page http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/articles/contributors/index.ht= ml#DONORS ? Thank you for the development of FreeBSD, David Navara --- David Navara - Senior Technologist - eMail: david.navara@nuabi.com Tel: +420 224 241 540 - Fax: +420 224 241 543 - Mobile: +420 777 743 = 174 nuabi, s.r.o. - www.nuabi.com - Czech Republic / Prague / Hybernska = 20 From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Oct 14 12:52:45 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: doc@FreeBSD.org Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D510F16A41F for ; Fri, 14 Oct 2005 12:52:45 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from joel@FreeBSD.org) Received: from av6-2-sn3.vrr.skanova.net (av6-2-sn3.vrr.skanova.net [81.228.9.180]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 61ABE43D46 for ; Fri, 14 Oct 2005 12:52:45 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from joel@FreeBSD.org) Received: by av6-2-sn3.vrr.skanova.net (Postfix, from userid 502) id B1C1E38302; Fri, 14 Oct 2005 14:52:43 +0200 (CEST) Received: from smtp3-1-sn3.vrr.skanova.net (smtp3-1-sn3.vrr.skanova.net [81.228.9.101]) by av6-2-sn3.vrr.skanova.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 98C2737F90; Fri, 14 Oct 2005 14:52:43 +0200 (CEST) Received: from t12o955p42.telia.com (t12o955p42.telia.com [213.66.34.162]) by smtp3-1-sn3.vrr.skanova.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 125B437E4C; Fri, 14 Oct 2005 14:52:39 +0200 (CEST) From: Joel Dahl To: nuabi - David Navara In-Reply-To: <000601c5d0a0$45f86a60$ef02a8c0@atol> References: <000601c5d0a0$45f86a60$ef02a8c0@atol> Content-Type: text/plain Date: Fri, 14 Oct 2005 14:50:11 +0200 Message-Id: <1129294211.685.12.camel@dude.automatvapen.se> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.2.3 FreeBSD GNOME Team Port Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: doc@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: Direct funding X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 14 Oct 2005 12:52:45 -0000 On Fri, 2005-10-14 at 11:18 +0200, nuabi - David Navara wrote: > Hello FreeBSD team, > > how much should we donate to the FreeBSD project team that > our donation would be useful enough for you that you would > list us in the "Direct funding" section on this page > http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/articles/contributors/index.html#DONORS > ? All donations are welcome, even small ones, however, the donors part of the article in your link is very outdated. You can read more about donating to the FreeBSD project here: http://www.freebsd.org/donations/ You can view what FreeBSD developers all around the world needs here: http://www.freebsd.org/donations/wantlist.html If you donate something, you (or your company) will be listed here: http://www.freebsd.org/donations/donors.html If you have further questions, please contact donations@FreeBSD.org. -- Joel - joel at FreeBSD dot org From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Oct 14 15:50:19 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-doc@hub.freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@hub.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 80FB616A420 for ; Fri, 14 Oct 2005 15:50:19 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7E18843D49 for ; Fri, 14 Oct 2005 15:50:18 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (gnats@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.13.3/8.13.3) with ESMTP id j9EFoIST039093 for ; Fri, 14 Oct 2005 15:50:18 GMT (envelope-from gnats@freefall.freebsd.org) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.13.3/8.13.1/Submit) id j9EFoIsg039092; Fri, 14 Oct 2005 15:50:18 GMT (envelope-from gnats) Resent-Date: Fri, 14 Oct 2005 15:50:18 GMT Resent-Message-Id: <200510141550.j9EFoIsg039092@freefall.freebsd.org> Resent-From: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.org (GNATS Filer) Resent-To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Resent-Reply-To: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.org, Joe Rhett Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5E7B916A41F for ; Fri, 14 Oct 2005 15:48:33 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from nobody@FreeBSD.org) Received: from www.freebsd.org (www.freebsd.org [216.136.204.117]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 206A043D45 for ; Fri, 14 Oct 2005 15:48:33 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from nobody@FreeBSD.org) Received: from www.freebsd.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by www.freebsd.org (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id j9EFmWZg097539 for ; Fri, 14 Oct 2005 15:48:33 GMT (envelope-from nobody@www.freebsd.org) Received: (from nobody@localhost) by www.freebsd.org (8.13.1/8.13.1/Submit) id j9EFmWpB097536; Fri, 14 Oct 2005 15:48:32 GMT (envelope-from nobody) Message-Id: <200510141548.j9EFmWpB097536@www.freebsd.org> Date: Fri, 14 Oct 2005 15:48:32 GMT From: Joe Rhett To: freebsd-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.org X-Send-Pr-Version: www-2.3 Cc: Subject: docs/87445: comments for improvement of handbook/kernelconfig-config.html X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 14 Oct 2005 15:50:19 -0000 >Number: 87445 >Category: docs >Synopsis: comments for improvement of handbook/kernelconfig-config.html >Confidential: no >Severity: non-critical >Priority: medium >Responsible: freebsd-doc >State: open >Quarter: >Keywords: >Date-Required: >Class: doc-bug >Submitter-Id: current-users >Arrival-Date: Fri Oct 14 15:50:18 GMT 2005 >Closed-Date: >Last-Modified: >Originator: Joe Rhett >Release: 5.4 >Organization: meer.net >Environment: >Description: http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/kernelconfig-config.html I'd like to offer some quick comments, after spending several hours reading and googling only to verify the fairly obvious but that wasn't spelled out. My comments to improve this page are in the Fix sections below. >How-To-Repeat: >Fix: 1. Start the beginning. What does the kernel configuration file do? If the following statement is true, let's put this (or something similar) somewhere near the top: "The kernel configuratioon file defines the modules which will be built statically into the kernel. You would change this file to remove modules from your kernel, or to change some kernel options. It does not limit or prevent you from adding dynamically loadable modules later. If you want to include a loadable module in your kernel, you don't need to rebuild your kernel configuration." This appears to be true, and running several kernel builds appears to prove it, but just determining whether or not it was true was downright difficult. 2. Move the comment about NOTES/LINT to the bottom. It's unlikely that your average kernel builder would care about most of this stuff, and they should read to the bottom anyway. It's kindof "if we didn't talk about it here..." kind of comment anyway. It certainly confuses the subject when you first hit this page. 3. Identify which modules are required for a kernel to boot. Or have some discussion of this. And in general -- what does it mean when I remove a module? Can I remove plip from the kernel but have it installed as a .ko so that I can load it dynamically later on if by some reason I decide to use it? What's the limitations of this approach? And lastly, stop with the intertwined 4.x and 5.x (and soon 6.x) comments. If there are different answers, put them in separate blocks. Maybe color them separately. It's incredibly frustrating to go through a paragraph and then hit an else near the end that makes you wonder just how many statements before the else are being negated. An example of very clear documentation could be: device gif # IPv6 and IPv4 tunneling This implements IPv6 over IPv4 tunneling, IPv4 over IPv6 tunneling, IPv4 over IPv4 tunneling, and IPv6 over IPv6 tunneling. Beginning with FreeBSD 4.4 the gif device is “auto-cloning”, and you should use the line pseudo-device gif. Earlier versions of FreeBSD 4.X require a number, for example pseudo-device gif 4. Huh? What? Did I read this right? Instead, why not: FreeBSD 5/6: device gif # IPv6 and IPv4 tunneling FreeBSD 4.4 and above: pseudo-device gif # IPv6 and IPv4 tunneling FreeBSD 4.3 and earlier: pseudo-device gif 4 # the number of IPv6 and IPv4 tunneling interfaces This implements IPv6 over IPv4 tunneling, IPv4 over IPv6 tunneling, IPv4 over IPv4 tunneling, and IPv6 over IPv6 tunneling. Beginning with FreeBSD 4.4 the gif device is “auto-cloning”. Earlier versions of FreeBSD 4.X require a number, for example pseudo-device gif 4. >Release-Note: >Audit-Trail: >Unformatted: From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Oct 14 16:34:38 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 320AB16A420 for ; Fri, 14 Oct 2005 16:34:38 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from rbgarga@gmail.com) Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.200]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C063943D46 for ; Fri, 14 Oct 2005 16:34:37 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from rbgarga@gmail.com) Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 71so258272wra for ; Fri, 14 Oct 2005 09:34:37 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; b=qyT6V5LuBkoZLD4XrE2pKcfhg6XdZaZv0Eak40ETjzcNxei18ZdS+5vTZRFWn/MZCnOE6iLVPbcjz0HccgHX5v9xBxE6B13aqUaGNL8z9zSyHy++/iqsi1c/uZH/iCEu38WNUb53VNszjfmE/AQnPQRQReV1NzgRG5tRybYMG60= Received: by 10.54.112.17 with SMTP id k17mr971409wrc; Fri, 14 Oct 2005 09:34:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.86.18 with HTTP; Fri, 14 Oct 2005 09:34:36 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <747dc8f30510140934ha1e37c8q10f2ee4decd5b9bb@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 14 Oct 2005 13:34:37 -0300 From: Renato Botelho To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline Subject: Sort contrib.additional.sgml in alphabetical order X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 14 Oct 2005 16:34:38 -0000 Hello all, I was adding a new entry on this file ans saw a lot of entries out of alphabetical order, so, I decided to fix it, and made this patch: http://people.freebsd.org/~garga/contrib.additional.sgml.diff Could someone take a look and tell-me if it's ok to commit? Thanks -- Renato Botelho From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Oct 14 16:40:15 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-doc@hub.freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@hub.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0888616A41F for ; Fri, 14 Oct 2005 16:40:15 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8823643D48 for ; Fri, 14 Oct 2005 16:40:14 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (gnats@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.13.3/8.13.3) with ESMTP id j9EGeEih046197 for ; Fri, 14 Oct 2005 16:40:14 GMT (envelope-from gnats@freefall.freebsd.org) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.13.3/8.13.1/Submit) id j9EGeECl046196; Fri, 14 Oct 2005 16:40:14 GMT (envelope-from gnats) Resent-Date: Fri, 14 Oct 2005 16:40:14 GMT Resent-Message-Id: <200510141640.j9EGeECl046196@freefall.freebsd.org> Resent-From: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.org (GNATS Filer) Resent-To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Resent-Reply-To: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.org, Denis Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 20C9316A420 for ; Fri, 14 Oct 2005 16:32:58 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from nobody@FreeBSD.org) Received: from www.freebsd.org (www.freebsd.org [216.136.204.117]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D37AC43D45 for ; Fri, 14 Oct 2005 16:32:57 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from nobody@FreeBSD.org) Received: from www.freebsd.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by www.freebsd.org (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id j9EGWvLA098588 for ; Fri, 14 Oct 2005 16:32:57 GMT (envelope-from nobody@www.freebsd.org) Received: (from nobody@localhost) by www.freebsd.org (8.13.1/8.13.1/Submit) id j9EGWvnr098586; Fri, 14 Oct 2005 16:32:57 GMT (envelope-from nobody) Message-Id: <200510141632.j9EGWvnr098586@www.freebsd.org> Date: Fri, 14 Oct 2005 16:32:57 GMT From: Denis To: freebsd-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.org X-Send-Pr-Version: www-2.3 Cc: Subject: docs/87447: Error in the HandBook X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 14 Oct 2005 16:40:15 -0000 >Number: 87447 >Category: docs >Synopsis: Error in the HandBook >Confidential: no >Severity: non-critical >Priority: low >Responsible: freebsd-doc >State: open >Quarter: >Keywords: >Date-Required: >Class: doc-bug >Submitter-Id: current-users >Arrival-Date: Fri Oct 14 16:40:14 GMT 2005 >Closed-Date: >Last-Modified: >Originator: Denis >Release: 5.4-RELEASE >Organization: >Environment: >Description: The French Handbook tells "Pour cette raison les versions 5.X sont considérées comme des versions dites de ``Nouvelle Technologie'', alors que les versions de la série 4.X sont dites versions de ``Production''. " It think it's most the 5.X version for Production and 4.X for "old" version. >How-To-Repeat: >Fix: >Release-Note: >Audit-Trail: >Unformatted: From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Oct 14 18:30:25 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-doc@hub.freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@hub.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5494316A420 for ; Fri, 14 Oct 2005 18:30:25 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 030B743D48 for ; Fri, 14 Oct 2005 18:30:25 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (gnats@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.13.3/8.13.3) with ESMTP id j9EIUO1n059814 for ; Fri, 14 Oct 2005 18:30:24 GMT (envelope-from gnats@freefall.freebsd.org) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.13.3/8.13.1/Submit) id j9EIUODY059813; Fri, 14 Oct 2005 18:30:24 GMT (envelope-from gnats) Date: Fri, 14 Oct 2005 18:30:24 GMT Message-Id: <200510141830.j9EIUODY059813@freefall.freebsd.org> To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org From: Eric Masson Cc: Subject: Re: docs/87447: Error in the HandBook X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Eric Masson List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 14 Oct 2005 18:30:25 -0000 The following reply was made to PR docs/87447; it has been noted by GNATS. From: Eric Masson To: bug-followup@FreeBSD.org, dapl@free.fr Cc: Subject: Re: docs/87447: Error in the HandBook Date: Fri, 14 Oct 2005 20:29:47 +0200 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------080005090700020104040208 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Hi, Here's a patch for /doc/fr_FR.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/introduction/chapter.sgml Regards Éric Masson --------------080005090700020104040208 Content-Type: text/plain; name="chapter.diff" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-Disposition: inline; filename="chapter.diff" --- chapter.sgml.original Fri Oct 14 19:52:57 2005 +++ chapter.sgml Fri Oct 14 20:18:33 2005 @@ -674,24 +674,17 @@ avancé des systèmes multiprocesseurs et des “threads”, et a introduit le support des plateformes &ultrasparc; et ia64. Cette version fut suivie - de la 5.1 en Juin 2003. En plus d'un grand nombre - de nouvelles fonctionnalités, les versions 5.X - contiennent également un nombre important de - développements majeurs dans l'architecture du - système. Parmi toutes ces avancées, ce - système inclu une grande quantité de code nouveau - et non testé à grande échelle. Pour cette - raison les versions 5.X sont considérées comme - des versions dites de “Nouvelle Technologie”, alors - que les versions de la série 4.X sont dites versions de - “Production”. Au moment adapté, la branche - 5.X sera déclarée stable et les travaux - commenceront sur la branche de développement suivante: - la 6.0-CURRENT. + de la 5.1 en Juin 2003. La dernière version 5.X issue de + -CURRENT fut la 5.2.1-RELEASE présentée en Février 2004 + + La branche RELENG_5 créée en Août 2004, suivie de la version + 5.3-RELEASE marque le début de la branche 5-STABLE. La version la plus + récente, la 5.4-RELEASE, a été présentée en Mai 2005. D'autres + versions de la branche RELENG_5 seront publiées. Pour le moment, les projets de développement à long terme continuent - à se faire dans la branche (tronc) 5.X-CURRENT, et des - “instantanées” de la 5.X sur CDROM (et, bien + à se faire dans la branche (tronc) 6.X-CURRENT, et des + “instantanées” de la 6.X sur CDROM (et, bien sûr, sur le net) sont continuellement mis à disposition sur le serveur --------------080005090700020104040208-- From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Oct 14 18:44:37 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A0A8D16A41F for ; Fri, 14 Oct 2005 18:44:37 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jhb@freebsd.org) Received: from mv.twc.weather.com (mv.twc.weather.com [65.212.71.225]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E972743D6A for ; Fri, 14 Oct 2005 18:44:36 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jhb@freebsd.org) Received: from [10.50.41.234] (Not Verified[10.50.41.234]) by mv.twc.weather.com with NetIQ MailMarshal (v6, 0, 3, 8) id ; Fri, 14 Oct 2005 15:01:00 -0400 From: John Baldwin To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Date: Fri, 14 Oct 2005 13:36:08 -0400 User-Agent: KMail/1.8.2 References: <000601c5d0a0$45f86a60$ef02a8c0@atol> In-Reply-To: <000601c5d0a0$45f86a60$ef02a8c0@atol> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-2" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200510141336.08941.jhb@freebsd.org> Cc: nuabi - David Navara Subject: Re: Direct funding X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 14 Oct 2005 18:44:37 -0000 On Friday 14 October 2005 05:18 am, nuabi - David Navara wrote: > Hello FreeBSD team, > > how much should we donate to the FreeBSD project team that our donation > would be useful enough for you that you would list us in the "Direct > funding" section on this page > http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/articles/contributors/index.html >#DONORS ? > > Thank you for the development of FreeBSD, > > David Navara One entity you can contact other than the donations page you were already referred to is the FreeBSD Foundation (www.freebsdfoundation.org) which is a 501(c)3 non-profit that supports FreeBSD in various ways. They also work closely with the donations folks as well from what I understand. -- John Baldwin <>< http://www.FreeBSD.org/~jhb/ "Power Users Use the Power to Serve" = http://www.FreeBSD.org From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Oct 14 19:08:51 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-doc@hub.freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@hub.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3397916A41F; Fri, 14 Oct 2005 19:08:51 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from blackend@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 598E743D6D; Fri, 14 Oct 2005 19:08:50 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from blackend@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (blackend@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.13.3/8.13.3) with ESMTP id j9EJ8oOe066574; Fri, 14 Oct 2005 19:08:50 GMT (envelope-from blackend@freefall.freebsd.org) Received: (from blackend@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.13.3/8.13.1/Submit) id j9EJ8obX066570; Fri, 14 Oct 2005 19:08:50 GMT (envelope-from blackend) Date: Fri, 14 Oct 2005 19:08:50 GMT From: Marc Fonvieille Message-Id: <200510141908.j9EJ8obX066570@freefall.freebsd.org> To: blackend@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org, blackend@FreeBSD.org Cc: Subject: Re: docs/87447: Error in the HandBook X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 14 Oct 2005 19:08:51 -0000 Synopsis: Error in the HandBook Responsible-Changed-From-To: freebsd-doc->blackend Responsible-Changed-By: blackend Responsible-Changed-When: Fri Oct 14 19:07:49 GMT 2005 Responsible-Changed-Why: I have to work on this one. http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=87447 From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Oct 14 21:20:25 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-doc@hub.freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@hub.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3065016A41F for ; 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Fri, 14 Oct 2005 21:19:02 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from acosta@freebsd.fisica.unam.mx) Received: from freebsd.fisica.unam.mx (freebsd.fisica.unam.mx [132.248.209.182]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DB96843D45 for ; Fri, 14 Oct 2005 21:19:01 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from acosta@freebsd.fisica.unam.mx) Received: from freebsd.fisica.unam.mx (localhost.fisica.unam.mx [127.0.0.1]) by freebsd.fisica.unam.mx (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id j9ELGRL1000620 for ; Fri, 14 Oct 2005 16:16:27 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from acosta@freebsd.fisica.unam.mx) Received: (from acosta@localhost) by freebsd.fisica.unam.mx (8.13.1/8.13.1/Submit) id j9ELGR0c000619; Fri, 14 Oct 2005 16:16:27 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from acosta) Message-Id: <200510142116.j9ELGR0c000619@freebsd.fisica.unam.mx> Date: Fri, 14 Oct 2005 16:16:27 -0500 (CDT) From: Alejandro Acosta To: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.org X-Send-Pr-Version: 3.113 Cc: Subject: docs/87464: [patch] Incorrect statement for loading linux binary compatibility module in the handbook X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Alejandro Acosta List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 14 Oct 2005 21:20:25 -0000 >Number: 87464 >Category: docs >Synopsis: [patch] Incorrect statement for loading linux binary compatibility module in the handbook >Confidential: no >Severity: non-critical >Priority: low >Responsible: freebsd-doc >State: open >Quarter: >Keywords: >Date-Required: >Class: doc-bug >Submitter-Id: current-users >Arrival-Date: Fri Oct 14 21:20:20 GMT 2005 >Closed-Date: >Last-Modified: >Originator: Alejandro Acosta >Release: FreeBSD 4.10-STABLE i386 >Organization: >Environment: System: FreeBSD freebsd.fisica.unam.mx 4.10-STABLE FreeBSD 4.10-STABLE #0: Fri Oct 1 17:02:02 CDT 2004 acosta@freebsd.fisica.unam.mx:/usr/src/sys/compile/INFIERNOS i386 >Description: In file linuxemu/chapter.sgml from handbook you can read: "Linux binary compatibility is not turned on by default. The easiest way to enable this functionality is to load the linux KLD object (.Kernel LoaDable object.). You can load this module by simply typing linux at the command prompt." In 5.x will not work . >How-To-Repeat: Type linux at the command prompt in a 5.x system >Fix: --- chapter.diff begins here --- --- chapter.sgml.old Wed Oct 12 16:46:48 2005 +++ chapter.sgml Wed Oct 12 16:21:10 2005 @@ -109,8 +109,10 @@ Linux binary compatibility is not turned on by default. The easiest way to enable this functionality is to load the linux KLD object (Kernel LoaDable - object). You can load this module by simply typing - linux at the command prompt. + object). You can load this module by typing the + following as root: + + # kldload linux If you would like Linux compatibility to always be enabled, then you should add the following line to --- chapter.diff ends here --- >Release-Note: >Audit-Trail: >Unformatted: From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Oct 14 21:27:48 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-doc@hub.freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@hub.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2ED7116A41F; Fri, 14 Oct 2005 21:27:48 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jcamou@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D9F5B43D45; Fri, 14 Oct 2005 21:27:47 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jcamou@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (jcamou@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.13.3/8.13.3) with ESMTP id j9ELRlp6083870; Fri, 14 Oct 2005 21:27:47 GMT (envelope-from jcamou@freefall.freebsd.org) Received: (from jcamou@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.13.3/8.13.1/Submit) id j9ELRlFB083866; Fri, 14 Oct 2005 21:27:47 GMT (envelope-from jcamou) Date: Fri, 14 Oct 2005 21:27:47 GMT From: "Jesus R. Camou" Message-Id: <200510142127.j9ELRlFB083866@freefall.freebsd.org> To: jcamou@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org, jcamou@FreeBSD.org Cc: Subject: Re: docs/87464: [patch] Incorrect statement for loading linux binary compatibility module in the handbook X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 14 Oct 2005 21:27:48 -0000 Synopsis: [patch] Incorrect statement for loading linux binary compatibility module in the handbook Responsible-Changed-From-To: freebsd-doc->jcamou Responsible-Changed-By: jcamou Responsible-Changed-When: Fri Oct 14 21:27:19 GMT 2005 Responsible-Changed-Why: I'll take a look at this. http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=87464 From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Oct 14 23:17:02 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3A7C216A41F; Fri, 14 Oct 2005 23:17:02 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from trhodes@FreeBSD.org) Received: from pittgoth.com (ns1.pittgoth.com [216.38.206.188]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E097F43D45; Fri, 14 Oct 2005 23:16:59 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from trhodes@FreeBSD.org) Received: from localhost (net-ix.gw.ai.net [205.134.160.6] (may be forged)) (authenticated bits=0) by pittgoth.com (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id j9ENNbLW025285 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT); Fri, 14 Oct 2005 19:23:37 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from trhodes@FreeBSD.org) Date: Fri, 14 Oct 2005 19:16:04 -0400 From: Tom Rhodes To: John Baldwin Message-Id: <20051014191604.35ff5ab0.trhodes@FreeBSD.org> In-Reply-To: <200510141336.08941.jhb@freebsd.org> References: <000601c5d0a0$45f86a60$ef02a8c0@atol> <200510141336.08941.jhb@freebsd.org> X-Mailer: Sylpheed version 1.0.5 (GTK+ 1.2.10; i386-portbld-freebsd7.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org, david.navara@nuabi.com Subject: Re: Direct funding X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 14 Oct 2005 23:17:02 -0000 On Fri, 14 Oct 2005 13:36:08 -0400 John Baldwin wrote: > On Friday 14 October 2005 05:18 am, nuabi - David Navara wrote: > > Hello FreeBSD team, > > > > how much should we donate to the FreeBSD project team that our donation > > would be useful enough for you that you would list us in the "Direct > > funding" section on this page > > http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/articles/contributors/index.html > >#DONORS ? > > > > Thank you for the development of FreeBSD, > > > > David Navara > > One entity you can contact other than the donations page you were already > referred to is the FreeBSD Foundation (www.freebsdfoundation.org) which is a > 501(c)3 non-profit that supports FreeBSD in various ways. They also work > closely with the donations folks as well from what I understand. Yes, we get along very well. I would gladly list a financial contribution on the donations@ website. I'm still considering moving the information from that article into a "historical donations" or "past donations" file under the donations website. Then a direct link from the article. Anyone on -doc care to comment? -- Tom Rhodes From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Oct 14 23:31:08 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-doc@hub.freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@hub.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 93A9416A41F; Fri, 14 Oct 2005 23:31:08 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from trhodes@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5469E43D45; Fri, 14 Oct 2005 23:31:08 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from trhodes@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (trhodes@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.13.3/8.13.3) with ESMTP id j9ENV8MW099975; Fri, 14 Oct 2005 23:31:08 GMT (envelope-from trhodes@freefall.freebsd.org) Received: (from trhodes@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.13.3/8.13.1/Submit) id j9ENV8nA099971; Fri, 14 Oct 2005 23:31:08 GMT (envelope-from trhodes) Date: Fri, 14 Oct 2005 23:31:08 GMT From: Tom Rhodes Message-Id: <200510142331.j9ENV8nA099971@freefall.freebsd.org> To: trhodes@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org, trhodes@FreeBSD.org Cc: Subject: Re: docs/87445: comments for improvement of handbook/kernelconfig-config.html X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 14 Oct 2005 23:31:08 -0000 Synopsis: comments for improvement of handbook/kernelconfig-config.html Responsible-Changed-From-To: freebsd-doc->trhodes Responsible-Changed-By: trhodes Responsible-Changed-When: Fri Oct 14 23:30:46 GMT 2005 Responsible-Changed-Why: Grab. I would really like to rewrite this chapter. http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=87445 From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Oct 15 03:56:49 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: docs@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F413016A41F for ; Sat, 15 Oct 2005 03:56:48 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from dan@langille.org) Received: from m21.unixathome.org (m21.unixathome.org [205.150.199.217]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9BFE043D45 for ; Sat, 15 Oct 2005 03:56:48 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from dan@langille.org) Received: from localhost (localhost [205.150.199.217]) by m21.unixathome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CA2A6C372 for ; Fri, 14 Oct 2005 23:56:47 -0400 (EDT) Received: from m21.unixathome.org ([205.150.199.217]) by localhost (m21.unixathome.org [205.150.199.217]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 08977-04 for ; Fri, 14 Oct 2005 23:56:47 -0400 (EDT) Received: from bast.unixathome.org (bast.unixathome.org [70.26.229.230]) by m21.unixathome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4F546BFB0 for ; Fri, 14 Oct 2005 23:56:46 -0400 (EDT) Received: from wocker (wocker.unixathome.org [10.55.0.99]) by bast.unixathome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BAE4E3D3B for ; Fri, 14 Oct 2005 23:56:46 -0400 (EDT) From: "Dan Langille" To: docs@freebsd.org Date: Fri, 14 Oct 2005 23:56:46 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: <435045BE.13907.87DBA6A3@localhost> Priority: normal X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (4.21c) Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-description: Mail message body X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new-20030616-p10 (Debian) at unixathome.org Cc: Subject: missing NFS examples X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 15 Oct 2005 03:56:49 -0000 Hi, I was just reading handbook/network-nfs.html and found this: Here are a few example /etc/exports entries: And no examples follow. Here's a valid example: /usr/src /usr/obj -maproot=0 10.55.0.57 cheers -- Dan Langille : http://www.langille.org/ BSDCan - The Technical BSD Conference - http://www.bsdcan.org/ From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Oct 15 03:58:34 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: docs@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F11AB16A41F for ; Sat, 15 Oct 2005 03:58:34 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from dan@langille.org) Received: from m21.unixathome.org (m21.unixathome.org [205.150.199.217]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9719F43D49 for ; Sat, 15 Oct 2005 03:58:34 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from dan@langille.org) Received: from localhost (localhost [205.150.199.217]) by m21.unixathome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 17BF2C372 for ; Fri, 14 Oct 2005 23:58:34 -0400 (EDT) Received: from m21.unixathome.org ([205.150.199.217]) by localhost (m21.unixathome.org [205.150.199.217]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 04918-08 for ; Fri, 14 Oct 2005 23:58:33 -0400 (EDT) Received: from bast.unixathome.org (bast.unixathome.org [70.26.229.230]) by m21.unixathome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 86A37BFB0 for ; Fri, 14 Oct 2005 23:58:33 -0400 (EDT) Received: from wocker (wocker.unixathome.org [10.55.0.99]) by bast.unixathome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 41E0E3D3B for ; Fri, 14 Oct 2005 23:58:33 -0400 (EDT) From: "Dan Langille" To: docs@freebsd.org Date: Fri, 14 Oct 2005 23:58:33 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: <43504629.3180.87DD4753@localhost> Priority: normal X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (4.21c) Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-description: Mail message body X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new-20030616-p10 (Debian) at unixathome.org Cc: Subject: missing NFS examples (resend) X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 15 Oct 2005 03:58:35 -0000 Hi, I was just reading handbook/network-nfs.html and found this: Here are a few example /etc/exports entries: The examples that follow should be in a
I think. They are at the same level as the rest of the document. That's why I mistakenly thought the following: ### And no examples follow. Here's a valid example: /usr/src /usr/obj -maproot=0 10.55.0.57 ### cheers -- Dan Langille : http://www.langille.org/ BSDCan - The Technical BSD Conference - http://www.bsdcan.org/ From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Oct 15 08:07:15 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7920616A41F; Sat, 15 Oct 2005 08:07:15 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from joel@FreeBSD.org) Received: from av12-1-sn2.hy.skanova.net (av12-1-sn2.hy.skanova.net [81.228.8.185]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0725643D48; Sat, 15 Oct 2005 08:07:14 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from joel@FreeBSD.org) Received: by av12-1-sn2.hy.skanova.net (Postfix, from userid 502) id 9E62A380D6; Sat, 15 Oct 2005 10:07:13 +0200 (CEST) Received: from smtp4-1-sn2.hy.skanova.net (smtp4-1-sn2.hy.skanova.net [81.228.8.92]) by av12-1-sn2.hy.skanova.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7C2CB37E93; Sat, 15 Oct 2005 10:07:13 +0200 (CEST) Received: from t8o955p71.telia.com (t8o955p71.telia.com [213.66.32.191]) by smtp4-1-sn2.hy.skanova.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 04FC737E43; Sat, 15 Oct 2005 10:07:09 +0200 (CEST) From: Joel Dahl To: Tom Rhodes In-Reply-To: <20051014191604.35ff5ab0.trhodes@FreeBSD.org> References: <000601c5d0a0$45f86a60$ef02a8c0@atol> <200510141336.08941.jhb@freebsd.org> <20051014191604.35ff5ab0.trhodes@FreeBSD.org> Content-Type: text/plain Date: Sat, 15 Oct 2005 10:06:45 +0200 Message-Id: <1129363605.653.6.camel@dude.automatvapen.se> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.2.3 FreeBSD GNOME Team Port Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org, david.navara@nuabi.com, John Baldwin Subject: Re: Direct funding X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 15 Oct 2005 08:07:15 -0000 On Fri, 2005-10-14 at 19:16 -0400, Tom Rhodes wrote: > On Fri, 14 Oct 2005 13:36:08 -0400 > John Baldwin wrote: > > One entity you can contact other than the donations page you were already > > referred to is the FreeBSD Foundation (www.freebsdfoundation.org) which is a > > 501(c)3 non-profit that supports FreeBSD in various ways. They also work > > closely with the donations folks as well from what I understand. > > Yes, we get along very well. I would gladly list a financial > contribution on the donations@ website. > > I'm still considering moving the information from that article > into a "historical donations" or "past donations" file under > the donations website. Then a direct link from the article. > > Anyone on -doc care to comment? Yes, please move it. This was discussed on doc@ a couple of months ago, and I'm still in favor of moving it to a better place, for example the donations@ website. -- Joel - joel at FreeBSD dot org From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Oct 15 12:20:38 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: doc@FreeBSD.org Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CB43216A41F; Sat, 15 Oct 2005 12:20:38 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ceri@submonkey.net) Received: from shrike.submonkey.net (cpc2-cdif2-3-1-cust208.cdif.cable.ntl.com [82.31.78.208]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4DC1543D46; Sat, 15 Oct 2005 12:20:38 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ceri@submonkey.net) Received: from ceri by shrike.submonkey.net with local (Exim 4.54 (FreeBSD)) id 1EQl1h-000LZn-5A; Sat, 15 Oct 2005 13:20:37 +0100 Date: Sat, 15 Oct 2005 13:20:37 +0100 From: Ceri Davies To: Tom Rhodes Message-ID: <20051015122036.GT99170@submonkey.net> Mail-Followup-To: Ceri Davies , Tom Rhodes , Joel Dahl , doc@FreeBSD.org References: <200510142331.j9ENV8nA099971@freefall.freebsd.org> <1129364021.653.11.camel@dude.automatvapen.se> <20051015055837.2a3b9035.trhodes@FreeBSD.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="LFcBmrHMV+//QdlE" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20051015055837.2a3b9035.trhodes@FreeBSD.org> X-PGP: finger ceri@FreeBSD.org User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.11 Sender: Ceri Davies Cc: doc@FreeBSD.org, Joel Dahl Subject: Re: docs/87445: comments for improvement of handbook/kernelconfig-config.html X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 15 Oct 2005 12:20:39 -0000 --LFcBmrHMV+//QdlE Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable [ Moved to doc@ from some other place ] On Sat, Oct 15, 2005 at 05:58:37AM -0400, Tom Rhodes wrote: > Or perhaps > 4.X will be knifed from the handbook. And most likely, the > only people who will expect it coming will be those that aren't > going to stand in my way.[1] :) >=20 > [1]: Please don't take that as if it's rude, I'm actually > joking around with it. Cause I know that if someone > tried that, well, to core && doceng they'd be explaining. Actually that's a great idea. There's no reason why we couldn't, like today, commit a copy of the current handbook to handbook4 and then get rid of all the crud from the real handbook. Same deal with the FAQ. The information is still available then, but we no longer have to tear our own hair own trying to maintain the documents. Ceri --=20 Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former. -- Einstein (attrib.) --LFcBmrHMV+//QdlE Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.2 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFDUPQUocfcwTS3JF8RAoLTAJ9HbBNVN6OArcJt3gz7ZXz9ZVKFgACePJfZ IUxa+2O0KTEIr2BmVgBpAM0= =Ixp5 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --LFcBmrHMV+//QdlE-- From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Oct 15 12:36:23 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: doc@FreeBSD.org Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4C03116A41F; Sat, 15 Oct 2005 12:36:23 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from marc@blackend.org) Received: from abigail.blackend.org (blackend.org [212.11.35.229]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 536FC43D45; Sat, 15 Oct 2005 12:36:22 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from marc@blackend.org) Received: from gothic.blackend.org (gothic.blackend.org [192.168.1.203]) by abigail.blackend.org (8.13.3/8.13.3) with ESMTP id j9FCaKQw037081; Sat, 15 Oct 2005 14:36:20 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from marc@abigail.blackend.org) Received: from gothic.blackend.org (localhost.blackend.org [127.0.0.1]) by gothic.blackend.org (8.13.3/8.13.3) with ESMTP id j9FCaKQP001671; Sat, 15 Oct 2005 14:36:20 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from marc@gothic.blackend.org) Received: (from marc@localhost) by gothic.blackend.org (8.13.3/8.13.3/Submit) id j9FCaFsH001670; Sat, 15 Oct 2005 14:36:15 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from marc) Date: Sat, 15 Oct 2005 14:36:15 +0200 From: Marc Fonvieille To: Ceri Davies , Tom Rhodes , Joel Dahl , doc@FreeBSD.org Message-ID: <20051015123615.GC1202@gothic.blackend.org> References: <200510142331.j9ENV8nA099971@freefall.freebsd.org> <1129364021.653.11.camel@dude.automatvapen.se> <20051015055837.2a3b9035.trhodes@FreeBSD.org> <20051015122036.GT99170@submonkey.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="T4sUOijqQbZv57TR" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20051015122036.GT99170@submonkey.net> X-Useless-Header: blackend.org X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 5.4-STABLE User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.9i Cc: Subject: Re: docs/87445: comments for improvement of handbook/kernelconfig-config.html X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 15 Oct 2005 12:36:23 -0000 --T4sUOijqQbZv57TR Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sat, Oct 15, 2005 at 01:20:37PM +0100, Ceri Davies wrote: > [ Moved to doc@ from some other place ] >=20 > On Sat, Oct 15, 2005 at 05:58:37AM -0400, Tom Rhodes wrote: >=20 > > Or perhaps > > 4.X will be knifed from the handbook. And most likely, the > > only people who will expect it coming will be those that aren't > > going to stand in my way.[1] :) > >=20 > > [1]: Please don't take that as if it's rude, I'm actually > > joking around with it. Cause I know that if someone > > tried that, well, to core && doceng they'd be explaining. >=20 > Actually that's a great idea. There's no reason why we couldn't, like > today, commit a copy of the current handbook to handbook4 and then get > rid of all the crud from the real handbook. Same deal with the FAQ. > The information is still available then, but we no longer have to tear > our own hair own trying to maintain the documents. > If people agree with that idea, let's freeze a Handbook4 and stop "supporting" 4.X in docs. (By "freeze" I mean no any new addition/change beside typos.) Let's then create a HANDBOOK_4 (or something like that) tag for CVSup operations. We could do the same for Handbook5 when 5.X will be dropped. Well, we could do the same as the Security Officer and set up a schedule for releases Handbook/docs support; this schedule will allow us to know when a HandbookX freeze will happen. Marc --T4sUOijqQbZv57TR Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.0 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFDUPe+zQ9RwE+OdOgRAtr8AJ9ugT+exo+kUqcBV35rUMlceiGzvQCghRYH 7PcETOD8+67vp8rnLLmt+wA= =ER0p -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --T4sUOijqQbZv57TR-- From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Oct 15 12:37:41 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: doc@FreeBSD.org Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AF40816A41F for ; Sat, 15 Oct 2005 12:37:41 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from marc@blackend.org) Received: from abigail.blackend.org (blackend.org [212.11.35.229]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 033B043D45 for ; Sat, 15 Oct 2005 12:37:40 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from marc@blackend.org) Received: from gothic.blackend.org (gothic.blackend.org [192.168.1.203]) by abigail.blackend.org (8.13.3/8.13.3) with ESMTP id j9FCbd4u037108 for ; Sat, 15 Oct 2005 14:37:39 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from marc@abigail.blackend.org) Received: from gothic.blackend.org (localhost.blackend.org [127.0.0.1]) by gothic.blackend.org (8.13.3/8.13.3) with ESMTP id j9FCbdDG001682 for ; Sat, 15 Oct 2005 14:37:39 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from marc@gothic.blackend.org) Received: (from marc@localhost) by gothic.blackend.org (8.13.3/8.13.3/Submit) id j9FCbd5q001681 for doc@FreeBSD.org; Sat, 15 Oct 2005 14:37:39 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from marc) Resent-From: marc@blackend.org Resent-Date: Sat, 15 Oct 2005 14:37:39 +0200 Resent-Message-ID: <20051015123739.GD1202@gothic.blackend.org> Resent-To: doc@FreeBSD.org Date: Sat, 15 Oct 2005 14:22:59 +0200 From: Marc Fonvieille To: Tom Rhodes Message-ID: <20051015122259.GA1202@gothic.blackend.org> References: <200510142331.j9ENV8nA099971@freefall.freebsd.org> <1129364021.653.11.camel@dude.automatvapen.se> <20051015055837.2a3b9035.trhodes@FreeBSD.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20051015055837.2a3b9035.trhodes@FreeBSD.org> X-Useless-Header: blackend.org X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 5.4-STABLE User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.9i Cc: doc-developers@FreeBSD.org, Joel Dahl Subject: Re: docs/87445: comments for improvement of handbook/kernelconfig-config.html X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 15 Oct 2005 12:37:41 -0000 On Sat, Oct 15, 2005 at 05:58:37AM -0400, Tom Rhodes wrote: > > That is my most hated section of all. Lemmie try to explain my > peeves with this chapter: > > o It's a major (and I mean MAJOR) nightmare to deal with keeping > in sync with reality. > > o There are several things with regards to kernel's not fully > discussed. For instance, look at the differences between > the way devices are listed for more archs then just i386. > > o This section should discuss some of the basic options which > effect the building of kernels. > > o This chapter should be merged with cutting edge and upgraded > to have an upgrading section. I think it's stupid to have > them separate when many of the aspects criss cross virtually. > > o I HATE HATE HATE the discussion on monolithic/modular. Awhile > ago (months/years?) it discussed doing a kernel rebuild in > relation to SunOS kernels. I'm glad that's gone. But in many > cases you don't need a custom kernel anymore. "rites of passage" > my butt. Yea, it's something an admin should know, but I > think the discussion is way out of hand here. > I think you're right. Nowadays building a custom kernel is for: - experimented (non lazy?) admins/users - embedded or old hardware With the amount of RAM in todays boxes, the fact quite everything exist as a module, the kernelconfig section should be part of cutting-edge. We should only mention "kldload foo" in various places we talk about kernel/driver support for a particular feature. One advantage of just mentioning "kldload foo" is that it's arch/release/whatever independant (most of time). > o I'm not dealing well with this 4.X/5.X/6.X stuff. It seems > that RE@ is going to drop 5.X after 5.5, and 4.X is virtually > gone. Not from production environments, but a lot of developers > I *THINK* aren't paying attention to it. > > o Blah. I'm tired. > > I'm also finding myself with an urge to jump back into FreeBSD > and complete a large project. This, and disposing of the > FAQ are just two things I'm thinking about. Some day people > will wake up to some major change in the docs, and the > FAQ may be gone or at least "quick reading" clean. Or perhaps > 4.X will be knifed from the handbook. And most likely, the > only people who will expect it coming will be those that aren't > going to stand in my way.[1] :) > > [1]: Please don't take that as if it's rude, I'm actually > joking around with it. Cause I know that if someone > tried that, well, to core && doceng they'd be explaining. > If you add to the tree the "famous ghost" called "dynamic built FAQ at the end of each Handbook chapter", no one will object :) Marc From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Oct 15 12:46:37 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: doc@FreeBSD.org Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AA7CC16A41F; Sat, 15 Oct 2005 12:46:37 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ceri@submonkey.net) Received: from shrike.submonkey.net (cpc2-cdif2-3-1-cust208.cdif.cable.ntl.com [82.31.78.208]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F064643D46; Sat, 15 Oct 2005 12:46:36 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ceri@submonkey.net) Received: from ceri by shrike.submonkey.net with local (Exim 4.54 (FreeBSD)) id 1EQlQp-000AYi-Ii; Sat, 15 Oct 2005 13:46:35 +0100 Date: Sat, 15 Oct 2005 13:46:35 +0100 From: Ceri Davies To: Marc Fonvieille Message-ID: <20051015124635.GU99170@submonkey.net> Mail-Followup-To: Ceri Davies , Marc Fonvieille , Tom Rhodes , Joel Dahl , doc@FreeBSD.org References: <200510142331.j9ENV8nA099971@freefall.freebsd.org> <1129364021.653.11.camel@dude.automatvapen.se> <20051015055837.2a3b9035.trhodes@FreeBSD.org> <20051015122036.GT99170@submonkey.net> <20051015123615.GC1202@gothic.blackend.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="dv5GTjvIKRsTi/dI" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20051015123615.GC1202@gothic.blackend.org> X-PGP: finger ceri@FreeBSD.org User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.11 Sender: Ceri Davies Cc: Tom Rhodes , doc@FreeBSD.org, Joel Dahl Subject: Re: docs/87445: comments for improvement of handbook/kernelconfig-config.html X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 15 Oct 2005 12:46:37 -0000 --dv5GTjvIKRsTi/dI Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sat, Oct 15, 2005 at 02:36:15PM +0200, Marc Fonvieille wrote: > On Sat, Oct 15, 2005 at 01:20:37PM +0100, Ceri Davies wrote: > > [ Moved to doc@ from some other place ] > >=20 > > On Sat, Oct 15, 2005 at 05:58:37AM -0400, Tom Rhodes wrote: > >=20 > > > Or perhaps > > > 4.X will be knifed from the handbook. And most likely, the > > > only people who will expect it coming will be those that aren't > > > going to stand in my way.[1] :) > > >=20 > > > [1]: Please don't take that as if it's rude, I'm actually > > > joking around with it. Cause I know that if someone > > > tried that, well, to core && doceng they'd be explaining. > >=20 > > Actually that's a great idea. There's no reason why we couldn't, like > > today, commit a copy of the current handbook to handbook4 and then get > > rid of all the crud from the real handbook. Same deal with the FAQ. > > The information is still available then, but we no longer have to tear > > our own hair own trying to maintain the documents. > > >=20 > If people agree with that idea, let's freeze a Handbook4 and stop > "supporting" 4.X in docs. (By "freeze" I mean no any new > addition/change beside typos.) Let's then create a HANDBOOK_4 (or > something like that) tag for CVSup operations. > We could do the same for Handbook5 when 5.X will be dropped. That's pretty much was I was thinking. Right now I can't think of any reason why it's a bad idea. Ceri --=20 Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former. -- Einstein (attrib.) --dv5GTjvIKRsTi/dI Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.2 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFDUPorocfcwTS3JF8RAthtAJ420Uxd8h+tXIzfYyTnrs4GJuWL3QCeMMvO xLLD2yrO84UZ5mL9xW7cmK0= =N69e -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --dv5GTjvIKRsTi/dI-- From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Oct 15 12:47:43 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: doc@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EAC3016A41F; Sat, 15 Oct 2005 12:47:43 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from remko@freebsd.org) Received: from caelis.elvandar.org (caelis.elvandar.org [217.148.169.59]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4F87643D48; Sat, 15 Oct 2005 12:47:43 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from remko@freebsd.org) Received: from localhost (caelis.elvandar.org [217.148.169.59]) by caelis.elvandar.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 23633930D56; Sat, 15 Oct 2005 14:47:42 +0200 (CEST) Received: from caelis.elvandar.org ([217.148.169.59]) by localhost (caelis.elvandar.org [217.148.169.59]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 26112-10; Sat, 15 Oct 2005 14:47:41 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <4350FA82.4050201@FreeBSD.org> Date: Sat, 15 Oct 2005 14:48:02 +0200 From: Remko Lodder User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.6 (Windows/20050716) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Marc Fonvieille References: <200510142331.j9ENV8nA099971@freefall.freebsd.org> <1129364021.653.11.camel@dude.automatvapen.se> <20051015055837.2a3b9035.trhodes@FreeBSD.org> <20051015122036.GT99170@submonkey.net> <20051015123615.GC1202@gothic.blackend.org> In-Reply-To: <20051015123615.GC1202@gothic.blackend.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by the elvandar.org maildomain Cc: Tom Rhodes , doc@FreeBSD.org, Joel Dahl Subject: Re: docs/87445: comments for improvement of handbook/kernelconfig-config.html X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 15 Oct 2005 12:47:44 -0000 Marc Fonvieille wrote: > On Sat, Oct 15, 2005 at 01:20:37PM +0100, Ceri Davies wrote: > >>[ Moved to doc@ from some other place ] >> >>On Sat, Oct 15, 2005 at 05:58:37AM -0400, Tom Rhodes wrote: >> >> >>> Or perhaps >>>4.X will be knifed from the handbook. And most likely, the >>>only people who will expect it coming will be those that aren't >>>going to stand in my way.[1] :) >>> >>>[1]: Please don't take that as if it's rude, I'm actually >>> joking around with it. Cause I know that if someone >>> tried that, well, to core && doceng they'd be explaining. >> >>Actually that's a great idea. There's no reason why we couldn't, like >>today, commit a copy of the current handbook to handbook4 and then get >>rid of all the crud from the real handbook. Same deal with the FAQ. >>The information is still available then, but we no longer have to tear >>our own hair own trying to maintain the documents. >> > > > If people agree with that idea, let's freeze a Handbook4 and stop > "supporting" 4.X in docs. (By "freeze" I mean no any new > addition/change beside typos.) Let's then create a HANDBOOK_4 (or > something like that) tag for CVSup operations. > We could do the same for Handbook5 when 5.X will be dropped. > Well, we could do the same as the Security Officer and set up a schedule > for releases Handbook/docs support; this schedule will allow us to know > when a HandbookX freeze will happen. > > Marc I am very much in favor of this idea. Though, should we really tag another branch? We recently branched the documentation for RELENG6 so we might want to just use that? instead of duplicating that information. On the other hand, a nice schedule and the availability of 'old' unused branches is also very nice. I'd say, go for it :-) -- Kind regards, Remko Lodder ** remko@elvandar.org FreeBSD ** remko@FreeBSD.org Reporter DSINET ** remko@DSINet.org From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Oct 15 13:02:50 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: doc@FreeBSD.org Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A6DA316A420; Sat, 15 Oct 2005 13:02:50 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ceri@submonkey.net) Received: from shrike.submonkey.net (cpc2-cdif2-3-1-cust208.cdif.cable.ntl.com [82.31.78.208]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B2F0943D5A; Sat, 15 Oct 2005 13:02:49 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ceri@submonkey.net) Received: from ceri by shrike.submonkey.net with local (Exim 4.54 (FreeBSD)) id 1EQlgW-000LFj-VD; Sat, 15 Oct 2005 14:02:48 +0100 Date: Sat, 15 Oct 2005 14:02:48 +0100 From: Ceri Davies To: Remko Lodder Message-ID: <20051015130248.GV99170@submonkey.net> Mail-Followup-To: Ceri Davies , Remko Lodder , Marc Fonvieille , Tom Rhodes , Joel Dahl , doc@FreeBSD.org References: <200510142331.j9ENV8nA099971@freefall.freebsd.org> <1129364021.653.11.camel@dude.automatvapen.se> <20051015055837.2a3b9035.trhodes@FreeBSD.org> <20051015122036.GT99170@submonkey.net> <20051015123615.GC1202@gothic.blackend.org> <4350FA82.4050201@FreeBSD.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="sA0T44BA86podSFD" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <4350FA82.4050201@FreeBSD.org> X-PGP: finger ceri@FreeBSD.org User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.11 Sender: Ceri Davies Cc: Tom Rhodes , doc@FreeBSD.org, Marc Fonvieille , Joel Dahl Subject: Re: docs/87445: comments for improvement of handbook/kernelconfig-config.html X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 15 Oct 2005 13:02:51 -0000 --sA0T44BA86podSFD Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sat, Oct 15, 2005 at 02:48:02PM +0200, Remko Lodder wrote: > Marc Fonvieille wrote: > >On Sat, Oct 15, 2005 at 01:20:37PM +0100, Ceri Davies wrote: > > > >>[ Moved to doc@ from some other place ] > >> > >>On Sat, Oct 15, 2005 at 05:58:37AM -0400, Tom Rhodes wrote: > >> > >> > >>> Or perhaps > >>>4.X will be knifed from the handbook. And most likely, the > >>>only people who will expect it coming will be those that aren't > >>>going to stand in my way.[1] :) > >>> > >>>[1]: Please don't take that as if it's rude, I'm actually > >>> joking around with it. Cause I know that if someone > >>> tried that, well, to core && doceng they'd be explaining. > >> > >>Actually that's a great idea. There's no reason why we couldn't, like > >>today, commit a copy of the current handbook to handbook4 and then get > >>rid of all the crud from the real handbook. Same deal with the FAQ. > >>The information is still available then, but we no longer have to tear > >>our own hair own trying to maintain the documents. > >> > > > > > >If people agree with that idea, let's freeze a Handbook4 and stop > >"supporting" 4.X in docs. (By "freeze" I mean no any new > >addition/change beside typos.) Let's then create a HANDBOOK_4 (or > >something like that) tag for CVSup operations. > >We could do the same for Handbook5 when 5.X will be dropped. > >Well, we could do the same as the Security Officer and set up a schedule > >for releases Handbook/docs support; this schedule will allow us to know > >when a HandbookX freeze will happen. > > > >Marc >=20 > I am very much in favor of this idea. Though, should we really tag=20 > another branch? We recently branched the documentation for RELENG6 > so we might want to just use that? instead of duplicating that > information. On the other hand, a nice schedule and the availability > of 'old' unused branches is also very nice. I guess that this really would count as "sweeping", which means that we'll have to wait a week or two. At least that allows us plenty of time to finalise the plans. The important points are: i) Handbook-4 must still be available on the website, probably via the URL /doc//handbook4/; ii) We must be able to rip out all the [1-4].x information that is in our way from the current handbook. To me, that means: i) Laying down a (PRE_)HANDBOOK4 CVS tag; ii) Repocopying doc//books/handbook to doc//books/handbook4 for each language; iii) Perhaps throwing the build of that directory under a (defaulted to off) knob (that the web build can turn on). where bits in parentheses may or may not make sense. There's no reason not to lay down a new tag, especially now. If this becomes part of the release cycle proper then we could omit it then, but it's too late now for 6. Ceri --=20 Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former. -- Einstein (attrib.) --sA0T44BA86podSFD Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.2 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFDUP34ocfcwTS3JF8RAuPBAKDHhxR7O64iDcaYfu4OJQpCcdQhSQCghyfK xmpARnTNnUHlSkby7MGgeDk= =jIOI -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --sA0T44BA86podSFD-- From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Oct 15 13:09:33 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: doc@FreeBSD.org Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D4E0D16A41F; Sat, 15 Oct 2005 13:09:33 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from joel@FreeBSD.org) Received: from av9-2-sn3.vrr.skanova.net (av9-2-sn3.vrr.skanova.net [81.228.9.186]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 229E043D46; Sat, 15 Oct 2005 13:09:32 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from joel@FreeBSD.org) Received: by av9-2-sn3.vrr.skanova.net (Postfix, from userid 502) id 8996D37EBA; Sat, 15 Oct 2005 15:09:31 +0200 (CEST) Received: from smtp3-1-sn3.vrr.skanova.net (smtp3-1-sn3.vrr.skanova.net [81.228.9.101]) by av9-2-sn3.vrr.skanova.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6F69437E43; Sat, 15 Oct 2005 15:09:31 +0200 (CEST) Received: from t3o955p99.telia.com (t3o955p99.telia.com [195.252.53.99]) by smtp3-1-sn3.vrr.skanova.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CF5AB37E47; Sat, 15 Oct 2005 15:09:29 +0200 (CEST) From: Joel Dahl To: Marc Fonvieille In-Reply-To: <20051015123615.GC1202@gothic.blackend.org> References: <200510142331.j9ENV8nA099971@freefall.freebsd.org> <1129364021.653.11.camel@dude.automatvapen.se> <20051015055837.2a3b9035.trhodes@FreeBSD.org> <20051015122036.GT99170@submonkey.net> <20051015123615.GC1202@gothic.blackend.org> Content-Type: text/plain Date: Sat, 15 Oct 2005 15:09:35 +0200 Message-Id: <1129381775.1412.3.camel@dude.automatvapen.se> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.2.3 FreeBSD GNOME Team Port Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Tom Rhodes , doc@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: docs/87445: comments for improvement of handbook/kernelconfig-config.html X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 15 Oct 2005 13:09:34 -0000 On Sat, 2005-10-15 at 14:36 +0200, Marc Fonvieille wrote: > On Sat, Oct 15, 2005 at 01:20:37PM +0100, Ceri Davies wrote: > > [ Moved to doc@ from some other place ] > > > > Actually that's a great idea. There's no reason why we couldn't, like > > today, commit a copy of the current handbook to handbook4 and then get > > rid of all the crud from the real handbook. Same deal with the FAQ. > > The information is still available then, but we no longer have to tear > > our own hair own trying to maintain the documents. > > > > If people agree with that idea, let's freeze a Handbook4 and stop > "supporting" 4.X in docs. (By "freeze" I mean no any new > addition/change beside typos.) Let's then create a HANDBOOK_4 (or > something like that) tag for CVSup operations. > We could do the same for Handbook5 when 5.X will be dropped. > Well, we could do the same as the Security Officer and set up a schedule > for releases Handbook/docs support; this schedule will allow us to know > when a HandbookX freeze will happen. I like this. The 4.x/5.x/6.x maintenance nightmare is driving me crazy. -- Joel - joel at FreeBSD dot org From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Oct 15 13:32:23 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: doc@FreeBSD.org Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 79A3916A41F; Sat, 15 Oct 2005 13:32:23 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from simon@zaphod.nitro.dk) Received: from zaphod.nitro.dk (cpe.atm2-0-71337.0x535ccf26.taanxx2.customer.tele.dk [83.92.207.38]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A2A7443D5C; Sat, 15 Oct 2005 13:32:22 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from simon@zaphod.nitro.dk) Received: by zaphod.nitro.dk (Postfix, from userid 3000) id 80E87118AC; Sat, 15 Oct 2005 15:32:21 +0200 (CEST) Date: Sat, 15 Oct 2005 15:32:21 +0200 From: "Simon L. Nielsen" To: Ceri Davies , Tom Rhodes , Joel Dahl , doc@FreeBSD.org Message-ID: <20051015133220.GB885@zaphod.nitro.dk> References: <200510142331.j9ENV8nA099971@freefall.freebsd.org> <1129364021.653.11.camel@dude.automatvapen.se> <20051015055837.2a3b9035.trhodes@FreeBSD.org> <20051015122036.GT99170@submonkey.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="pvezYHf7grwyp3Bc" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20051015122036.GT99170@submonkey.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.10i Cc: Subject: Re: docs/87445: comments for improvement of handbook/kernelconfig-config.html X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 15 Oct 2005 13:32:23 -0000 --pvezYHf7grwyp3Bc Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 2005.10.15 13:20:37 +0100, Ceri Davies wrote: > On Sat, Oct 15, 2005 at 05:58:37AM -0400, Tom Rhodes wrote: >=20 > > Or perhaps > > 4.X will be knifed from the handbook. And most likely, the > > only people who will expect it coming will be those that aren't > > going to stand in my way.[1] :) > >=20 > > [1]: Please don't take that as if it's rude, I'm actually > > joking around with it. Cause I know that if someone > > tried that, well, to core && doceng they'd be explaining. >=20 > Actually that's a great idea. There's no reason why we couldn't, like > today, commit a copy of the current handbook to handbook4 and then get > rid of all the crud from the real handbook. Same deal with the FAQ. > The information is still available then, but we no longer have to tear > our own hair own trying to maintain the documents. Wouldn't it be better to create a branch and do appropriate magic in the web build to handle it? We already have magic that handles building the release notes from different branches. While I generally don't care much about repo bloat, starting a trend with making a copy of the Handbook for each FreeBSD major version seems a bit wasteful to me, especially since CVS actually does have a concept for handling situations like this. Especially since I don't expect to see many commits to the 4.X Handbook. This would also make it simpler to do make merges back to the 4.X handbook if/when needed. If people prefer the "copy way" I won't stand in the way, it just doesn't seem like the best solution from my point of view. Just for reference: [simon@eddie:~] du -shc /home/ncvs/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook 19M /home/ncvs/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook --=20 Simon L. Nielsen --pvezYHf7grwyp3Bc Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.2 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFDUQTkh9pcDSc1mlERAr5rAJ97EwEiQvWMMN/tJepTS51N6kPqwgCfR9X0 Wf/xBbE0MlyrCimnxB5vTIg= =fQvV -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --pvezYHf7grwyp3Bc-- From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Oct 15 14:52:09 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: doc@FreeBSD.org Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 03D4B16A41F for ; Sat, 15 Oct 2005 14:52:09 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from hrs@FreeBSD.org) Received: from mail.allbsd.org (vlsi00.si.noda.tus.ac.jp [133.31.130.32]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4EA2E43D46 for ; Sat, 15 Oct 2005 14:52:07 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from hrs@FreeBSD.org) Received: from delta.allbsd.org (p13123-adsau14honb8-acca.tokyo.ocn.ne.jp [220.106.49.123]) (authenticated bits=128) by mail.allbsd.org (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id j9FEq4ME022314 for ; Sat, 15 Oct 2005 23:52:06 +0900 (JST) (envelope-from hrs@FreeBSD.org) Received: from localhost (alph.allbsd.org [192.168.0.10]) by delta.allbsd.org (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id j9FEpj7R095532 for ; Sat, 15 Oct 2005 23:51:46 +0900 (JST) (envelope-from hrs@FreeBSD.org) Date: Sat, 15 Oct 2005 23:26:13 +0900 (JST) Message-Id: <20051015.232613.99896945.hrs@allbsd.org> To: doc@FreeBSD.org From: Hiroki Sato In-Reply-To: <20051015122036.GT99170@submonkey.net> References: <1129364021.653.11.camel@dude.automatvapen.se> <20051015055837.2a3b9035.trhodes@FreeBSD.org> <20051015122036.GT99170@submonkey.net> X-PGPkey-fingerprint: BDB3 443F A5DD B3D0 A530 FFD7 4F2C D3D8 2793 CF2D X-Mailer: Mew version 4.2.52 on Emacs 21.3 / Mule 5.0 (SAKAKI) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Multipart/Signed; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=pgp-sha1; boundary="--Security_Multipart(Sat_Oct_15_23_26_13_2005_631)--" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV version 0.86.2, clamav-milter version 0.86 on gatekeeper.allbsd.org X-Virus-Status: Clean Cc: Subject: Re: docs/87445: comments for improvement of handbook/kernelconfig-config.html X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 15 Oct 2005 14:52:09 -0000 ----Security_Multipart(Sat_Oct_15_23_26_13_2005_631)-- Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Ceri Davies wrote in <20051015122036.GT99170@submonkey.net>: ce> On Sat, Oct 15, 2005 at 05:58:37AM -0400, Tom Rhodes wrote: ce> ce> > Or perhaps ce> > 4.X will be knifed from the handbook. And most likely, the ce> > only people who will expect it coming will be those that aren't ce> > going to stand in my way.[1] :) ce> > ce> > [1]: Please don't take that as if it's rude, I'm actually ce> > joking around with it. Cause I know that if someone ce> > tried that, well, to core && doceng they'd be explaining. ce> ce> Actually that's a great idea. There's no reason why we couldn't, like ce> today, commit a copy of the current handbook to handbook4 and then get ce> rid of all the crud from the real handbook. Same deal with the FAQ. ce> The information is still available then, but we no longer have to tear ce> our own hair own trying to maintain the documents. I am still unsure why such versioning of the handbook is needed. What is the problem we have now? -- | Hiroki SATO ----Security_Multipart(Sat_Oct_15_23_26_13_2005_631)-- Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.2 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQBDURGGTyzT2CeTzy0RAjtEAKDEMOk2KLt1AHuadZrvHaFOt0CqSACeMQGP J+mXclzCdPUzdQrD2tevuQ4= =WFPQ -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- ----Security_Multipart(Sat_Oct_15_23_26_13_2005_631)---- From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Oct 15 14:58:47 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: doc@FreeBSD.org Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CC5B116A41F; Sat, 15 Oct 2005 14:58:47 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from linimon@lonesome.com) Received: from mail.soaustin.net (mail.soaustin.net [207.200.4.66]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7C44743D46; Sat, 15 Oct 2005 14:58:47 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from linimon@lonesome.com) Received: by mail.soaustin.net (Postfix, from userid 502) id 2CF372F2B; Sat, 15 Oct 2005 09:58:46 -0500 (CDT) Date: Sat, 15 Oct 2005 09:58:46 -0500 To: Ceri Davies , Remko Lodder , Marc Fonvieille , Tom Rhodes , Joel Dahl , doc@FreeBSD.org Message-ID: <20051015145846.GA10221@soaustin.net> References: <200510142331.j9ENV8nA099971@freefall.freebsd.org> <1129364021.653.11.camel@dude.automatvapen.se> <20051015055837.2a3b9035.trhodes@FreeBSD.org> <20051015122036.GT99170@submonkey.net> <20051015123615.GC1202@gothic.blackend.org> <4350FA82.4050201@FreeBSD.org> <20051015130248.GV99170@submonkey.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20051015130248.GV99170@submonkey.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.9i From: linimon@lonesome.com (Mark Linimon) Cc: Subject: Re: docs/87445: comments for improvement of handbook/kernelconfig-config.html X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 15 Oct 2005 14:58:47 -0000 On Sat, Oct 15, 2005 at 02:02:48PM +0100, Ceri Davies wrote: > If people agree with that idea, let's freeze a Handbook4 and stop > "supporting" 4.X in docs. (By "freeze" I mean no any new > addition/change beside typos.) Let's then create a HANDBOOK_4 (or > something like that) tag for CVSup operations. > We could do the same for Handbook5 when 5.X will be dropped. I like the idea except to wonder if the "5.X handbook" might really be the "5.3 and above handbook". At the very least, the pre-5.2 information needs to be the non-default. mcl From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Oct 15 15:03:04 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: doc@FreeBSD.org Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BC3D716A41F; Sat, 15 Oct 2005 15:03:04 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from marc@blackend.org) Received: from abigail.blackend.org (blackend.org [212.11.35.229]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DE9CE43D46; Sat, 15 Oct 2005 15:03:03 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from marc@blackend.org) Received: from gothic.blackend.org (gothic.blackend.org [192.168.1.203]) by abigail.blackend.org (8.13.3/8.13.3) with ESMTP id j9FF31Lc039119; Sat, 15 Oct 2005 17:03:01 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from marc@abigail.blackend.org) Received: from gothic.blackend.org (localhost.blackend.org [127.0.0.1]) by gothic.blackend.org (8.13.3/8.13.3) with ESMTP id j9FF31WQ002271; Sat, 15 Oct 2005 17:03:01 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from marc@gothic.blackend.org) Received: (from marc@localhost) by gothic.blackend.org (8.13.3/8.13.3/Submit) id j9FF31BY002270; Sat, 15 Oct 2005 17:03:01 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from marc) Date: Sat, 15 Oct 2005 17:03:01 +0200 From: Marc Fonvieille To: Marc Fonvieille Message-ID: <20051015150301.GE1202@gothic.blackend.org> References: <200510142331.j9ENV8nA099971@freefall.freebsd.org> <1129364021.653.11.camel@dude.automatvapen.se> <20051015055837.2a3b9035.trhodes@FreeBSD.org> <20051015122036.GT99170@submonkey.net> <20051015123615.GC1202@gothic.blackend.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="JYK4vJDZwFMowpUq" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20051015123615.GC1202@gothic.blackend.org> X-Useless-Header: blackend.org X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 5.4-STABLE User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.9i Cc: Tom Rhodes , doc@FreeBSD.org, Joel Dahl Subject: Re: docs/87445: comments for improvement of handbook/kernelconfig-config.html X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 15 Oct 2005 15:03:04 -0000 --JYK4vJDZwFMowpUq Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sat, Oct 15, 2005 at 02:36:15PM +0200, Marc Fonvieille wrote: >=20 > If people agree with that idea, let's freeze a Handbook4 and stop > "supporting" 4.X in docs. (By "freeze" I mean no any new > addition/change beside typos.) Let's then create a HANDBOOK_4 (or > something like that) tag for CVSup operations. > We could do the same for Handbook5 when 5.X will be dropped. > Well, we could do the same as the Security Officer and set up a schedule > for releases Handbook/docs support; this schedule will allow us to know > when a HandbookX freeze will happen. > Well, we already have a Handbook4 (or quite) if one uses RELENG_4_11_0_RELEASE to checkout or CVSup the doc/ We just have to drop 4.X support in "current" Handbook. Marc --JYK4vJDZwFMowpUq Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.0 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFDURokzQ9RwE+OdOgRAvcLAJ9FZYCLZ3ydnj0SyapTGgOiIfu1gwCfTlzc R5hbwnxYtuy+aZ8E0Q34bnc= =0cnh -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --JYK4vJDZwFMowpUq-- From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Oct 15 15:32:19 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: doc@FreeBSD.org Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E28F416A41F; Sat, 15 Oct 2005 15:32:18 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from marc@blackend.org) Received: from abigail.blackend.org (blackend.org [212.11.35.229]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3C40B43D70; Sat, 15 Oct 2005 15:32:08 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from marc@blackend.org) Received: from gothic.blackend.org (gothic.blackend.org [192.168.1.203]) by abigail.blackend.org (8.13.3/8.13.3) with ESMTP id j9FFW725039507; Sat, 15 Oct 2005 17:32:07 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from marc@abigail.blackend.org) Received: from gothic.blackend.org (localhost.blackend.org [127.0.0.1]) by gothic.blackend.org (8.13.3/8.13.3) with ESMTP id j9FFW7GG002337; Sat, 15 Oct 2005 17:32:07 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from marc@gothic.blackend.org) Received: (from marc@localhost) by gothic.blackend.org (8.13.3/8.13.3/Submit) id j9FFW7Gd002336; Sat, 15 Oct 2005 17:32:07 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from marc) Date: Sat, 15 Oct 2005 17:32:07 +0200 From: Marc Fonvieille To: Ceri Davies , Remko Lodder , Tom Rhodes , Joel Dahl , doc@FreeBSD.org Message-ID: <20051015153207.GF1202@gothic.blackend.org> References: <200510142331.j9ENV8nA099971@freefall.freebsd.org> <1129364021.653.11.camel@dude.automatvapen.se> <20051015055837.2a3b9035.trhodes@FreeBSD.org> <20051015122036.GT99170@submonkey.net> <20051015123615.GC1202@gothic.blackend.org> <4350FA82.4050201@FreeBSD.org> <20051015130248.GV99170@submonkey.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="hYooF8G/hrfVAmum" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20051015130248.GV99170@submonkey.net> X-Useless-Header: blackend.org X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 5.4-STABLE User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.9i Cc: Subject: Re: docs/87445: comments for improvement of handbook/kernelconfig-config.html X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 15 Oct 2005 15:32:19 -0000 --hYooF8G/hrfVAmum Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sat, Oct 15, 2005 at 02:02:48PM +0100, Ceri Davies wrote: > >=20 > > I am very much in favor of this idea. Though, should we really tag=20 > > another branch? We recently branched the documentation for RELENG6 > > so we might want to just use that? instead of duplicating that > > information. On the other hand, a nice schedule and the availability > > of 'old' unused branches is also very nice. >=20 > I guess that this really would count as "sweeping", which means that > we'll have to wait a week or two. At least that allows us plenty of > time to finalise the plans. >=20 > The important points are: >=20 > i) Handbook-4 must still be available on the website, probably > via the URL /doc//handbook4/; >=20 > ii) We must be able to rip out all the [1-4].x information that > is in our way from the current handbook. >=20 > To me, that means: >=20 > i) Laying down a (PRE_)HANDBOOK4 CVS tag; >=20 > ii) Repocopying doc//books/handbook to > doc//books/handbook4 for each language; > [...] This is not needed. The idea (if I understood well your idea) is to drop 4.X remains from the Handbook, so en_US version needs a tag and localized versions need a branch (if the translation is not complete when handbookX is tagged). All that should be done with a "major release support" schedule in mind. Then if people go on http://www.freebsd.org/releases/4.XR/ part of the web site the 4.X docs should be proposed. On the homepage just the "current" Handbook should be linked, with "current" meaning "the Handbook covering the supported releases." Our current problem is that supporting 6.X, 5.X and 4.X at the same time in our docs is a nightmare. It is not really possible to maintain many versions of the same large doc (book) without headaches, especially for translators (if there are 2 or 3 versions for en_US, it means 4 or 6 versions to work on for the translator: the en_US and the localized versions). So, from my point of view, droping the support is the best/easiest solution but this does not need a repocopy or to have 2 "physical" versions of the same doc. Well, I feel my english sucks today, so my words may be not accurate, I'm sorry for this. Marc --hYooF8G/hrfVAmum Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.0 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFDUSD2zQ9RwE+OdOgRAjZ3AJ9cdp+Jf0FgDDp6HdSy5I/q0XVZ4wCffX0C 45irdi6qgIUIu0kZ3T+1XQU= =v7sg -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --hYooF8G/hrfVAmum-- From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Oct 15 16:27:57 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: doc@FreeBSD.org Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A8B0516A41F for ; Sat, 15 Oct 2005 16:27:57 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from hrs@FreeBSD.org) Received: from mail.allbsd.org (vlsi00.si.noda.tus.ac.jp [133.31.130.32]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0B29F43D49 for ; Sat, 15 Oct 2005 16:27:56 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from hrs@FreeBSD.org) Received: from delta.allbsd.org (p13123-adsau14honb8-acca.tokyo.ocn.ne.jp [220.106.49.123]) (authenticated bits=128) by mail.allbsd.org (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id j9FGRr04023225 for ; Sun, 16 Oct 2005 01:27:54 +0900 (JST) (envelope-from hrs@FreeBSD.org) Received: from localhost (alph.allbsd.org [192.168.0.10]) by delta.allbsd.org (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id j9FGRe4N096026 for ; Sun, 16 Oct 2005 01:27:41 +0900 (JST) (envelope-from hrs@FreeBSD.org) Date: Sun, 16 Oct 2005 01:27:37 +0900 (JST) Message-Id: <20051016.012737.111131088.hrs@allbsd.org> To: doc@FreeBSD.org From: Hiroki Sato In-Reply-To: <20051015153207.GF1202@gothic.blackend.org> References: <4350FA82.4050201@FreeBSD.org> <20051015130248.GV99170@submonkey.net> <20051015153207.GF1202@gothic.blackend.org> X-PGPkey-fingerprint: BDB3 443F A5DD B3D0 A530 FFD7 4F2C D3D8 2793 CF2D X-Mailer: Mew version 4.2.52 on Emacs 21.3 / Mule 5.0 (SAKAKI) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Multipart/Signed; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=pgp-sha1; boundary="--Security_Multipart(Sun_Oct_16_01_27_37_2005_824)--" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV version 0.86.2, clamav-milter version 0.86 on gatekeeper.allbsd.org X-Virus-Status: Clean Cc: Subject: Re: docs/87445: comments for improvement of handbook/kernelconfig-config.html X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 15 Oct 2005 16:27:57 -0000 ----Security_Multipart(Sun_Oct_16_01_27_37_2005_824)-- Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Marc Fonvieille wrote in <20051015153207.GF1202@gothic.blackend.org>: bl> Our current problem is that supporting 6.X, 5.X and 4.X at the same time bl> in our docs is a nightmare. It is not really possible to maintain many bl> versions of the same large doc (book) without headaches, especially for I do not think splitting the existing handbook into ones for each version helps for the maintenance. Although the handbook is very large as you pointed out, many parts of it are version-neutral. Parts where supporting multiple versions is important and the maintenance is difficult, should be split off into an article, I think. The kernconfig section is a good candidate for that because 1) this section is less important for average users now since they do not need to create their own custom kernel, and 2) the information is version-specific. Splitting the whole handbook duplicates the version-neutral parts and it makes the maintenance difficult, I guess. Which part is difficult to maintain now? If there is such a part, probably it should not be in the handbook. -- | Hiroki SATO ----Security_Multipart(Sun_Oct_16_01_27_37_2005_824)-- Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.2 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQBDUS35TyzT2CeTzy0RAqP6AJ45q5FTKVqCLwNOOZhliqiMDUErCQCeIW6L YzlJMBUOkK0494bFQnBiAW4= =gbrD -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- ----Security_Multipart(Sun_Oct_16_01_27_37_2005_824)---- From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Oct 15 23:06:53 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: doc@FreeBSD.org Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E8F2816A420; Sat, 15 Oct 2005 23:06:53 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ceri@submonkey.net) Received: from shrike.submonkey.net (cpc2-cdif2-3-1-cust208.cdif.cable.ntl.com [82.31.78.208]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3A62843D46; Sat, 15 Oct 2005 23:06:53 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ceri@submonkey.net) Received: from ceri by shrike.submonkey.net with local (Exim 4.54 (FreeBSD)) id 1EQv75-000PAU-NM; Sun, 16 Oct 2005 00:06:51 +0100 Date: Sun, 16 Oct 2005 00:06:51 +0100 From: Ceri Davies To: "Simon L. Nielsen" Message-ID: <20051015230651.GA52278@submonkey.net> Mail-Followup-To: Ceri Davies , "Simon L. Nielsen" , Tom Rhodes , Joel Dahl , doc@FreeBSD.org References: <200510142331.j9ENV8nA099971@freefall.freebsd.org> <1129364021.653.11.camel@dude.automatvapen.se> <20051015055837.2a3b9035.trhodes@FreeBSD.org> <20051015122036.GT99170@submonkey.net> <20051015133220.GB885@zaphod.nitro.dk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="h31gzZEtNLTqOjlF" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20051015133220.GB885@zaphod.nitro.dk> X-PGP: finger ceri@FreeBSD.org User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.11 Sender: Ceri Davies Cc: Tom Rhodes , doc@FreeBSD.org, Joel Dahl Subject: Re: docs/87445: comments for improvement of handbook/kernelconfig-config.html X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 15 Oct 2005 23:06:54 -0000 --h31gzZEtNLTqOjlF Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sat, Oct 15, 2005 at 03:32:21PM +0200, Simon L. Nielsen wrote: > On 2005.10.15 13:20:37 +0100, Ceri Davies wrote: >=20 > > On Sat, Oct 15, 2005 at 05:58:37AM -0400, Tom Rhodes wrote: > >=20 > > > Or perhaps > > > 4.X will be knifed from the handbook. And most likely, the > > > only people who will expect it coming will be those that aren't > > > going to stand in my way.[1] :) > > >=20 > > > [1]: Please don't take that as if it's rude, I'm actually > > > joking around with it. Cause I know that if someone > > > tried that, well, to core && doceng they'd be explaining. > >=20 > > Actually that's a great idea. There's no reason why we couldn't, like > > today, commit a copy of the current handbook to handbook4 and then get > > rid of all the crud from the real handbook. Same deal with the FAQ. > > The information is still available then, but we no longer have to tear > > our own hair own trying to maintain the documents. >=20 > Wouldn't it be better to create a branch and do appropriate magic in > the web build to handle it? We already have magic that handles > building the release notes from different branches. I don't really care. As long as users can access it without having to checkout and build their own copy (i.e., they just need to go to http://www.FreeBSD.org/doc//handbook4/), it doesn't matter (to me) how that actually happens. Ceri --=20 Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former. -- Einstein (attrib.) --h31gzZEtNLTqOjlF Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.2 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFDUYuLocfcwTS3JF8RAhxMAJ0WDcctkbQ5vpVZr/yBBKnJq+pFwACeJOY9 T7Glll/NKynTJRyCH0H5J/w= =RT6j -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --h31gzZEtNLTqOjlF--