From owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Apr 25 08:51:39 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 00B4516A4CF for ; Mon, 25 Apr 2005 08:51:39 +0000 (GMT) Received: from relay2.quantum.ru (relay2.quantum.ru [213.170.81.146]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 49DEA43D46 for ; Mon, 25 Apr 2005 08:51:38 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from z1nkum@gmail.com) Received: from relay2.quantum.ru (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by relay2.quantum.ru (Postfix) with SMTP id F3A0CAC91 for ; Mon, 25 Apr 2005 12:51:30 +0400 (MSD) Received: from [192.168.18.81] (mama.quantum.ru [213.170.105.102]) by relay2.quantum.ru (Postfix) with ESMTP id CA890AC90 for ; Mon, 25 Apr 2005 12:51:29 +0400 (MSD) Message-ID: <426CAF1E.30501@gmail.com> Date: Mon, 25 Apr 2005 12:49:34 +0400 From: "Dmitry S. Vlasov" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.2 (Windows/20050317) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=KOI8-R; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-SpamTest-Version: SMTP-Filter Version 2.0.0 [0125], KAS/Release X-Spamtest-Info: Pass through Subject: constant CPU utilization X-BeenThere: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion of FreeBSD hardware List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 25 Apr 2005 08:51:39 -0000 Hello! I've a problem with two identical servers under FreeBSD. CPU tools show me information about CPU utilization only few minutes after system reboot. And after that I see constant CPU utilization: TOP: CPU states: 0.0% user, 0.0% nice, 0.0% system, 0.0% interrupt, 0.0% idle VMSTAT: root@hpool2# vmstat -c 10 procs memory page disks faults cpu r b w avm fre flt re pi po fr sr ad0 md0 in sy cs us sy id 5 0 0 261964 172292 791 0 0 0 1268 4 0 0 2812 1781 1313 10 9 82 4 0 0 267564 170752 649 0 0 0 564 0 6 0 2492 5860 1046 0 0 0 9 0 0 277444 168268 1020 0 0 0 753 0 8 0 2437 6902 989 0 0 0 4 0 0 297304 164100 1241 0 0 0 579 0 8 0 2429 8504 1001 0 0 0 3 0 0 328484 157344 3597 0 0 0 1890 0 8 0 2336 12988 1147 0 0 0 7 1 0 336036 154352 2110 0 0 0 796 0 35 0 2610 11445 1083 0 0 0 5 0 0 341180 151820 985 0 0 0 612 0 9 0 2585 11027 1015 0 0 0 5 0 0 341596 149124 967 0 0 0 562 0 8 0 2449 9302 896 0 0 0 3 0 0 340464 150164 374 0 0 0 923 0 8 0 2531 4649 905 0 0 0 6 0 0 337160 152328 628 0 0 0 1741 0 16 0 2596 3512 906 0 0 0 (first line values are always the same...) We tryied to upgrade from 4x to 5x - but unsuccessful And problems still exist. Please, help me :) Thank you! P.S.: dmidecode: # dmidecode 2.4 SMBIOS 2.3 present. 70 structures occupying 2412 bytes. Table at 0x000FAEC0. Handle 0x0000 DMI type 0, 20 bytes. BIOS Information Vendor: Intel Corporation Version: SE7210TP10.86B.P.01.00.0023.122520031342 Release Date: 12/25/2003 Address: 0xF0000 Runtime Size: 64 kB ROM Size: 1024 kB Characteristics: PCI is supported PNP is supported BIOS is upgradeable BIOS shadowing is allowed ESCD support is available Boot from CD is supported Selectable boot is supported BIOS ROM is socketed EDD is supported 3.5"/720 KB floppy services are supported (int 13h) 3.5"/2.88 MB floppy services are supported (int 13h) Print screen service is supported (int 5h) 8042 keyboard services are supported (int 9h) Serial services are supported (int 14h) Printer services are supported (int 17h) CGA/mono video services are supported (int 10h) ACPI is supported USB legacy is supported LS-120 boot is supported ATAPI Zip drive boot is supported BIOS boot specification is supported Function key-initiated network boot is supported Handle 0x0001 DMI type 1, 25 bytes. System Information Manufacturer: Intel Product Name: SE7210TP1-E Version: 1.0 Serial Number: 0000000000 UUID: Not Present Wake-up Type: Power Switch Handle 0x0002 DMI type 2, 15 bytes. Base Board Information Manufacturer: Intel Product Name: SE7210TP1-E Version: FRU Ver 0.01 Serial Number: BZTP41500986 Asset Tag: 0000000000 Features: Board is a hosting board Board is replaceable Location In Chassis: A0 Chassis Handle: 0x0003 Type: Motherboard Contained Object Handlers: 0 Handle 0x0003 DMI type 3, 21 bytes. Chassis Information Manufacturer: Intel Corporation Type: Main Server Chassis Lock: Not Present Version: SR1325TP1 Serial Number: ECKA4190050 Asset Tag: 0000000000 Boot-up State: Safe Power Supply State: Safe Thermal State: Safe Security Status: None OEM Information: 0x00000000 Heigth: Unspecified Number Of Power Cords: 1 Contained Elements: 0 Handle 0x0004 DMI type 4, 35 bytes. Processor Information Socket Designation: CPU 1 Type: Central Processor Family: Pentium 4 Manufacturer: Intel ID: 33 0F 00 00 FF FB EB BF Signature: Type 0, Family 15, Model 3, Stepping 3 Flags: FPU (Floating-point unit on-chip) VME (Virtual mode extension) DE (Debugging extension) PSE (Page size extension) TSC (Time stamp counter) MSR (Model specific registers) PAE (Physical address extension) MCE (Machine check exception) CX8 (CMPXCHG8 instruction supported) APIC (On-chip APIC hardware supported) SEP (Fast system call) MTRR (Memory type range registers) PGE (Page global enable) MCA (Machine check architecture) CMOV (Conditional move instruction supported) PAT (Page attribute table) PSE-36 (36-bit page size extension) CLFSH (CLFLUSH instruction supported) DS (Debug store) ACPI (ACPI supported) MMX (MMX technology supported) FXSR (Fast floating-point save and restore) SSE (Streaming SIMD extensions) SSE2 (Streaming SIMD extensions 2) SS (Self-snoop) HTT (Hyper-threading technology) TM (Thermal monitor supported) SBF (Signal break on FERR) Version: Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 CPU 2.80GHz Voltage: 1.4 V External Clock: 800 MHz Max Speed: 2800 MHz Current Speed: 2800 MHz Status: Populated, Enabled Upgrade: Socket 478 L1 Cache Handle: 0x0005 L2 Cache Handle: 0x0006 L3 Cache Handle: 0x0007 Serial Number: Asset Tag: Part Number: Handle 0x0005 DMI type 7, 19 bytes. Cache Information Socket Designation: L1-Cache Configuration: Enabled, Not Socketed, Level 1 Operational Mode: Varies With Memory Address Location: Internal Installed Size: 16 KB Maximum Size: 16 KB Supported SRAM Types: Pipeline Burst Installed SRAM Type: Pipeline Burst Speed: Unknown Error Correction Type: Single-bit ECC System Type: Data Associativity: 4-way Set-associative Handle 0x0006 DMI type 7, 19 bytes. Cache Information Socket Designation: L2-Cache Configuration: Enabled, Not Socketed, Level 2 Operational Mode: Varies With Memory Address Location: Internal Installed Size: 1024 KB Maximum Size: 1024 KB Supported SRAM Types: Pipeline Burst Installed SRAM Type: Pipeline Burst Speed: Unknown Error Correction Type: Single-bit ECC System Type: Unified Associativity: 4-way Set-associative Handle 0x0007 DMI type 7, 19 bytes. Cache Information Socket Designation: L3-Cache Configuration: Disabled, Not Socketed, Level 3 Operational Mode: Unknown Location: Internal Installed Size: 0 KB Maximum Size: 0 KB Supported SRAM Types: Unknown Installed SRAM Type: Unknown Speed: Unknown Error Correction Type: Unknown System Type: Unknown Associativity: Unknown From owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Apr 25 10:24:22 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6525116A4CE for ; Mon, 25 Apr 2005 10:24:22 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mail.cyanide-studio.com (cyanide.net1.nerim.net [62.212.119.207]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 62CDC43D45 for ; Mon, 25 Apr 2005 10:24:21 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jlirochon@cyanide-studio.com) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.cyanide-studio.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E5ABC1058F for ; Mon, 25 Apr 2005 10:21:45 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mail.cyanide-studio.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (mail.cyanide-studio.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 30398-02 for ; Mon, 25 Apr 2005 10:21:45 +0000 (GMT) Received: from [10.1.8.200] (mister-j.cyanide-studio.com [10.1.8.200]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.cyanide-studio.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 976AE10393 for ; Mon, 25 Apr 2005 10:21:45 +0000 (GMT) Message-ID: <426CC4D7.2070101@cyanide-studio.com> Date: Mon, 25 Apr 2005 12:22:15 +0200 From: Julien Lirochon Organization: Cyanide User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (Windows/20041206) X-Accept-Language: fr, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at cyanide-studio.com Subject: looking for a good sata or scsi raid 0/1 controller X-BeenThere: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion of FreeBSD hardware List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 25 Apr 2005 10:24:22 -0000 Hello, I'm looking for a good raid controller, with good driver support, something I could really rely on ! I have some problems with my 3ware 8006-2 on freebsd 5.3 branch. Actually the box is a p4-3000 hyperthreaded, the 3ware card is running raid1 with 2 maxtor 80go drives. Acually the traffic on the card is less than 2 MB/s. When the number of transactions/s a value around 70, the controller seems to "lag", the average time par transaction can be more than 10 seconds ! The box also reboot at random intervals giving no messages in the logs. I don't know if the problem comes from the disks or from the 3ware card. If someone could post iostat values I can expect with other raid cards and/or other disks, it would be great :) thanks, Julien iostat -o 1 output : tty twed0 cpu tin tout sps tps msps us ni sy in id 0 392601 86 465 71 0 28 1 0 0 1201891 61 877 63 0 37 0 0 0 401820 58 1268 31 0 19 1 50 0 401843 65 1591 31 0 8 0 60 0 402004 66 1411 55 0 10 0 34 0 401925 65 1155 40 0 16 0 44 0 401911 62 870 33 0 11 0 57 0 401776 65 1077 17 0 13 0 70 6 652021 66 1303 22 0 14 0 64 1 422240 89 1074 30 0 37 1 32 0 401660 59 815 9 0 5 1 84 0 401882 61 1630 6 0 2 0 91 0 401775 60 2501 9 0 12 0 79 0 401718 61 3015 0 0 0 0 99 0 401973 62 3064 0 0 1 0 99 0 402440 76 3451 0 0 1 0 99 0 407480 234 4536 9 0 8 1 82 0 402631 82 5376 2 0 2 0 97 0 402536 79 6408 0 0 0 0 99 0 402599 81 7379 0 0 0 0 100 0 412250 70 8385 0 0 0 0 100 0 1202060 64 9407 1 0 0 0 99 0 402314 7210433 0 0 0 0 100 0 411981 6311387 0 0 0 0 100 0 411244 6410001 60 0 17 0 23 0 401014 48 5712 74 0 25 1 0 0 401779 91 3.6 72 0 28 0 0 0 402582 97 16.9 65 0 34 1 0 0 402371 90 45.1 56 0 41 3 0 0 401826 61 792 40 0 15 1 44 From owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Apr 25 17:15:28 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix, from userid 618) id 7EF8B16A4D3; Mon, 25 Apr 2005 17:15:28 +0000 (GMT) To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org, freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Date: Mon, 25 Apr 2005 17:15:28 +0000 (GMT) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL54 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <20050425171528.7EF8B16A4D3@hub.freebsd.org> From: wpaul@FreeBSD.ORG (Bill Paul) Subject: Too Evil, Too Furious X-BeenThere: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion of FreeBSD hardware List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 25 Apr 2005 17:15:28 -0000 Having reached yet another milestone of sorts in Project Evil develpment, it's time once again to concentrate on cleaning up some of the rough spots. This means fixing problems with cards/drivers that don't quite work right. Naturally, all the cards/drivers that people are having issues with are ones that I don't have. Now, it doesn't do any good to just tell me that your card/driver isn't working right: to fix the problem, whatever it is, I need to experiment, and for that I need access to the hardware. No, I won't send you patches to test. No, there isn't any debugging information you can give me via e-mail that will help. No, I'm not kidding. The cards that I can't seem to get my hands on are: - Marvell wireless -- supposedly D-Link used this on a card called the DWL-G510, but only on the first revision. The second board revision uses an Atheros chipset, which is already supported. Unfortunately, aside from this one PCI card, this chipset tends to only show up as a built-in component on motherboards or laptops, which makes it hard for me to just go out and get one. - Inprocomm wireless -- this chipset has been reported to work on i386, but there's also an amd64 driver, and to date nobody has reported trying it with FreeBSD/amd64. - AirGo Pre-N wireless -- there's apparently a Belkin cardbus card (F5D8010?) that uses this one - RayLink RT2500 wireless -- this one shows up on some PCI cards, but I haven't had any luck finding one locally yet The developers of the Marvell and Inprocomm drivers apparently chose to use Microsoft structured exception handling (*sigh*), which is interesting in that these devices have drivers for amd64 as well as i386. From what I've read, Microsoft's amd64 implementation of SEH should not cause any problems for Project Evil on amd64, but I haven't personally tested it since the only card I have with an amd64 driver is a Broadcom one. My problems with finding these cards locally are: - In-store selections around here really suck - In many cases, the chips appear on only certain revs of a given card, and either I can't find that rev, or the boxes aren't well enough marked for me to figure out just which rev is inside - Some of them show up most often as built-in devices, and I can't go out and buy a new laptop or motherboard just to test one network interface If you have one of these cards and would like to loan or donate it, we at Project Evil Laboratories would be most appreciative. If you don't want to part with your hardware, you can still help by giving me remote access to a system with the card installed. Note that just giving me a shell really doesn't help: in order to experiment, I need to be able to load, test and unload kernel modules, which requires superuser access. The ideal setup would be to use a serial console, since in some cases it may be necessary to poke around with the kernel debugger. Don't consider this unless you have a scratch box lying around that you can afford to have bounced a few times, because I guarantee you I will crash the thing a few times before I get it to work. Lastly, if you can't do either of these things, you can still help by providing some important information. If you have one of these cards, tell me where you got it! Tell me what manufacturer and model number it is, but also carefully inspect the box it came in and tell me _ANY_ identifying markings on it that will help me distinguish it from all the other cards out there. Very often, card distributors will sell two different cards with the same part number. (I own no less than 4 cards called the "LinkSys LNE100TX," all of which have different chipsets on them.) D-Link and Linksys are some of the worst offenders in this area. Even worse, most PCI cards now have metal RF shields on them that cover up the chipsets, which makes it impossible to tell what you're getting just by looking at the picture on the box. Look for hardware revision info. Look for firmware revision info. If you can provide a URL to the exact card you got from the place you ordered it, even better. Whatever you do, don't just tell "I have a D-Link model so-and-so." Instead, tell me "I have a D-Link model so-and-so that I ordered from the following URL, and the box has a sticker that says HW rev: B3 FW rev: 2.0." If I have info like this, I can grab a card off a store shelf when I find the right one. Otherwise, I can't take the chance on paying for it only to find out later it uses a chipset I already have. If you want to donate/load a card to Project Evil, you can send it to the following address: Attn: Bill Paul Wind River Systems 500 Wind River Way Alameda, CA. 94501 USA Bill's office phone number: 1 (510) 749-2329 Remember to include a note with your address so that the card can be shipped back to you, and specify how soon you need the card back. All loaned cards will be returned. -Bill -- ============================================================================= -Bill Paul (510) 749-2329 | Senior Engineer, Master of Unix-Fu wpaul@windriver.com | Wind River Systems ============================================================================= you're just BEGGING to face the moose ============================================================================= From owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Apr 25 17:56:14 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 612EC16A4D1; Mon, 25 Apr 2005 17:56:14 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mail.fci.fsu.edu (mail.fci.fsu.edu [128.186.195.169]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D521043D64; Mon, 25 Apr 2005 17:56:13 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from neuro@mail.fci.fsu.edu) Received: from mail.fci.fsu.edu (mail.fci.fsu.edu [127.0.0.1]) by mail.fci.fsu.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 90638153F22; Mon, 25 Apr 2005 14:05:18 -0400 (EDT) Date: Mon, 25 Apr 2005 14:05:18 -0400 (EDT) From: neuro@mail.fci.fsu.edu To: Bill Paul In-Reply-To: <20050425171528.7EF8B16A4D3@hub.freebsd.org> Message-ID: References: <20050425171528.7EF8B16A4D3@hub.freebsd.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed cc: freebsd-current@freebsd.org cc: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Too Evil, Too Furious X-BeenThere: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion of FreeBSD hardware List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 25 Apr 2005 17:56:14 -0000 Dear Bill Paul, I asked if you needed help earlier in programming project evil. I was wondering if you have a CVS repository of the code. Also, if I partake in this endeavour I will be able to supply you with the cards as I am doing research for my university I can order these as extras and ship them to you. We do a lot of opensource development. Hell I'll even purchase these out of pocket. I would like to help tell me what you need done and we'll figure something out... --sahil On Mon, 25 Apr 2005, Bill Paul wrote: > > Having reached yet another milestone of sorts in Project Evil develpment, > it's time once again to concentrate on cleaning up some of the rough spots. > This means fixing problems with cards/drivers that don't quite work right. > > Naturally, all the cards/drivers that people are having issues with are > ones that I don't have. Now, it doesn't do any good to just tell me that > your card/driver isn't working right: to fix the problem, whatever it is, > I need to experiment, and for that I need access to the hardware. No, I > won't send you patches to test. No, there isn't any debugging information > you can give me via e-mail that will help. No, I'm not kidding. > > The cards that I can't seem to get my hands on are: > > - Marvell wireless -- supposedly D-Link used this on a card called the > DWL-G510, but only on the first revision. The second board revision > uses an Atheros chipset, which is already supported. Unfortunately, aside > from this one PCI card, this chipset tends to only show up as a built-in > component on motherboards or laptops, which makes it hard for me to just > go out and get one. > > - Inprocomm wireless -- this chipset has been reported to work on i386, > but there's also an amd64 driver, and to date nobody has reported trying > it with FreeBSD/amd64. > > - AirGo Pre-N wireless -- there's apparently a Belkin cardbus card > (F5D8010?) that uses this one > > - RayLink RT2500 wireless -- this one shows up on some PCI cards, but > I haven't had any luck finding one locally yet > > The developers of the Marvell and Inprocomm drivers apparently chose > to use Microsoft structured exception handling (*sigh*), which is > interesting in that these devices have drivers for amd64 as well as > i386. From what I've read, Microsoft's amd64 implementation of SEH > should not cause any problems for Project Evil on amd64, but I haven't > personally tested it since the only card I have with an amd64 driver > is a Broadcom one. > > My problems with finding these cards locally are: > > - In-store selections around here really suck > - In many cases, the chips appear on only certain revs of a given > card, and either I can't find that rev, or the boxes aren't well > enough marked for me to figure out just which rev is inside > - Some of them show up most often as built-in devices, and I can't > go out and buy a new laptop or motherboard just to test one network > interface > > If you have one of these cards and would like to loan or donate it, we > at Project Evil Laboratories would be most appreciative. If you don't want > to part with your hardware, you can still help by giving me remote access > to a system with the card installed. Note that just giving me a shell > really doesn't help: in order to experiment, I need to be able to load, > test and unload kernel modules, which requires superuser access. The > ideal setup would be to use a serial console, since in some cases it > may be necessary to poke around with the kernel debugger. Don't consider > this unless you have a scratch box lying around that you can afford to > have bounced a few times, because I guarantee you I will crash the thing > a few times before I get it to work. > > Lastly, if you can't do either of these things, you can still help by > providing some important information. If you have one of these cards, > tell me where you got it! Tell me what manufacturer and model number > it is, but also carefully inspect the box it came in and tell me _ANY_ > identifying markings on it that will help me distinguish it from all > the other cards out there. Very often, card distributors will sell two > different cards with the same part number. (I own no less than 4 cards > called the "LinkSys LNE100TX," all of which have different chipsets on > them.) D-Link and Linksys are some of the worst offenders in this area. > Even worse, most PCI cards now have metal RF shields on them that > cover up the chipsets, which makes it impossible to tell what you're > getting just by looking at the picture on the box. > > Look for hardware revision info. Look for firmware revision info. If > you can provide a URL to the exact card you got from the place you > ordered it, even better. Whatever you do, don't just tell "I have > a D-Link model so-and-so." Instead, tell me "I have a D-Link model > so-and-so that I ordered from the following URL, and the box has > a sticker that says HW rev: B3 FW rev: 2.0." If I have info like this, > I can grab a card off a store shelf when I find the right one. Otherwise, > I can't take the chance on paying for it only to find out later it > uses a chipset I already have. > > If you want to donate/load a card to Project Evil, you can send it > to the following address: > > Attn: Bill Paul > Wind River Systems > 500 Wind River Way > Alameda, CA. 94501 > USA > > Bill's office phone number: 1 (510) 749-2329 > > Remember to include a note with your address so that the card can be > shipped back to you, and specify how soon you need the card back. All > loaned cards will be returned. > > -Bill > > -- > ============================================================================= > -Bill Paul (510) 749-2329 | Senior Engineer, Master of Unix-Fu > wpaul@windriver.com | Wind River Systems > ============================================================================= > you're just BEGGING to face the moose > ============================================================================= > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-current@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-current > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-current-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Apr 25 19:58:57 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BF88216A4CE; Mon, 25 Apr 2005 19:58:57 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mallaury.noc.nerim.net (smtp-101-monday.noc.nerim.net [62.4.17.101]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C0CE643D62; Mon, 25 Apr 2005 19:58:56 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from e-masson@kisoft-services.com) Received: from srvbsdnanssv.interne.kisoft-services.com (kisoft.net1.nerim.net [62.212.107.51]) by mallaury.noc.nerim.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5548D62D31; Mon, 25 Apr 2005 21:58:52 +0200 (CEST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1])CE8F7C4E2; Mon, 25 Apr 2005 21:58:52 +0200 (CEST) Received: from srvbsdnanssv.interne.kisoft-services.com ([127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 08514-08; Mon, 25 Apr 2005 21:58:52 +0200 (CEST) Received: by srvbsdnanssv.interne.kisoft-services.com (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 1FA91C4B9; Mon, 25 Apr 2005 21:58:52 +0200 (CEST) To: wpaul@FreeBSD.ORG (Bill Paul) From: Eric Masson In-Reply-To: <20050425171528.7EF8B16A4D3@hub.freebsd.org> (Bill Paul's message of "Mon, 25 Apr 2005 17:15:28 +0000 (GMT)") References: <20050425171528.7EF8B16A4D3@hub.freebsd.org> X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 5.4-RC3 i386 Date: Mon, 25 Apr 2005 21:58:52 +0200 Message-ID: <861x8ysk5f.fsf@srvbsdnanssv.interne.kisoft-services.com> User-Agent: Gnus/5.1006 (Gnus v5.10.6) XEmacs/21.4 (Security Through Obscurity, berkeley-unix) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-15 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at interne.kisoft-services.com cc: freebsd-current@freebsd.org cc: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Too Evil, Too Furious X-BeenThere: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion of FreeBSD hardware List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 25 Apr 2005 19:58:58 -0000 wpaul@FreeBSD.ORG (Bill Paul) writes: Hi Bill, > The cards that I can't seem to get my hands on are: > > - Marvell wireless -- supposedly D-Link used this on a card called the > DWL-G510, but only on the first revision. The second board revision > uses an Atheros chipset, which is already supported. Unfortunately, aside > from this one PCI card, this chipset tends to only show up as a built-in > component on motherboards or laptops, which makes it hard for me to just > go out and get one. I fought with Marvell based cards recently (not mine, otherwise I would already have shipped one to you). They are made by Planet http://www.planet.com.tw/ and sold under part numbers : - WL-3563 - WL-8313 I've seen only one revision of the hardware, and available drivers from Planet web site are for Marvell chipsets. This is really El Cheapo solution, with crappy drivers, hope you can find recent ndis 5.1 drivers elsewhere. Éric Masson -- Toute non, seul une petite bande de macintoshiens résistent encore et toujours à l'envahisseur ouindoze. Leur force, ils la tirent de leur potion magique : MacOS, préparée par leur druide Steve Jobs. -+- SC in Guide du Macounet Pervers : Ils sont fous ces Beurkistes! -+- From owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Apr 25 21:34:35 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix, from userid 618) id 54ED416A4CF; Mon, 25 Apr 2005 21:34:35 +0000 (GMT) In-Reply-To: <2308.216.177.243.38.1114456660.localmail@webmail.dnswatch.com> from /dev/null at "Apr 25, 2005 12:17:40 pm" To: null@dnswatch.com (/dev/null) Date: Mon, 25 Apr 2005 21:34:35 +0000 (GMT) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL54 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <20050425213435.54ED416A4CF@hub.freebsd.org> From: wpaul@FreeBSD.ORG (Bill Paul) cc: freebsd-current@freebsd.org cc: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Too Evil, Too Furious X-BeenThere: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion of FreeBSD hardware List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 25 Apr 2005 21:34:35 -0000 > I see there are about 50 D-Link DWL-G510 802.11g Wireless PCI Adapter Cards > available on Ebay. They aren't but about $16.00 US. I'd be willing to pick > one up and send it to you. What do I need to ask the seller to ensure that > I get the right one? I haven't tried looking for the other cards on your > list yet. But I got to thinking that most of the sellers on Ebay are pretty > helpful. So if one wanted to know about the card they are selling - where > they got it, what it looks like, etc... that might be an added resource > in helping you in your quest. Well, the problem, see, is I don't know exactly how to identify which cards I need, which is why I was asking people to describe to me the ones the had. :) I'm not interested in getting stuff off eBay anyway. eBay is the debbil. And not in a good way. It looks like I have an offer for a bunch of stuff, so for now it seems Project Evil's hardware needs will be met. > I was also wondering if Project Evil will > suport the Compaq 32-bit NetFlex-2 controllers? I got a Compaq EISA box > some time ago and a whole bunch of the Netflex-2 cards with the intention > of making a FreeBSD Switch out of it. But I wasn't thinking or I wouldn't > have *assumed* that FBSD supported the Netflex-2 card. > Anyway, still have all the eqpt. and think it would be a worthy project > that I'd love to complete. Oh, one more thing; if it would be of any help, > I can cough up an IP and a remote box that you can have *complete* control > of if you like. Project Evil only supports cardbus, PCI and (to some small extent) PCMCIA. I have plans to make it support USB. But EISA? Sorry, can't help you. Nobody makes Windows XP drivers for EISAbus devices. :/ -Bill -- ============================================================================= -Bill Paul (510) 749-2329 | Senior Engineer, Master of Unix-Fu wpaul@windriver.com | Wind River Systems ============================================================================= you're just BEGGING to face the moose ============================================================================= From owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Apr 25 22:05:18 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix, from userid 618) id 43BD616A4CF; Mon, 25 Apr 2005 22:05:18 +0000 (GMT) In-Reply-To: from "neuro@mail.fci.fsu.edu" at "Apr 25, 2005 02:05:18 pm" To: neuro@mail.fci.fsu.edu Date: Mon, 25 Apr 2005 22:05:18 +0000 (GMT) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL54 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <20050425220518.43BD616A4CF@hub.freebsd.org> From: wpaul@FreeBSD.ORG (Bill Paul) cc: freebsd-current@freebsd.org cc: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Too Evil, Too Furious X-BeenThere: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion of FreeBSD hardware List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 25 Apr 2005 22:05:18 -0000 > Dear Bill Paul, > > I asked if you needed help earlier in programming project evil. I was > wondering if you have a CVS repository of the code. Also, if I partake in > this endeavour I will be able to supply you with the cards as I am doing > research for my university I can order these as extras and ship them to > you. We do a lot of opensource development. Hell I'll even purchase > these out of pocket. I would like to help tell me what you need done and > we'll figure something out... Ok, a couple of things here: 1) Project Evil isn't really a separate project. I gave it a silly name, but it's really just part of the FreeBSD kernel. 2) It doesn't have a separate CVS repository. Everything is in the FreeBSD CVS tree, except for anything I'm hacking on right at this second (which, at the moment, is nothing). 3) I don't really need volunteers to offer help. If someone finds something broken or deficient, decides on their own initiative to fix it, and then submits the fix, that's great. If you just ask me if you can help, then the answer is probably no. -Bill -- ============================================================================= -Bill Paul (510) 749-2329 | Senior Engineer, Master of Unix-Fu wpaul@windriver.com | Wind River Systems ============================================================================= you're just BEGGING to face the moose ============================================================================= From owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Apr 25 22:08:14 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ADC4D16A4CE; Mon, 25 Apr 2005 22:08:14 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mail.fci.fsu.edu (mail.fci.fsu.edu [128.186.195.169]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 78DA243D1D; Mon, 25 Apr 2005 22:08:14 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from neuro@mail.fci.fsu.edu) Received: from mail.fci.fsu.edu (mail.fci.fsu.edu [127.0.0.1]) by mail.fci.fsu.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id CAB9C352F; Mon, 25 Apr 2005 18:17:19 -0400 (EDT) Date: Mon, 25 Apr 2005 18:17:19 -0400 (EDT) From: neuro@mail.fci.fsu.edu To: Bill Paul In-Reply-To: <20050425220518.43BD616A4CF@hub.freebsd.org> Message-ID: References: <20050425220518.43BD616A4CF@hub.freebsd.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed cc: freebsd-current@freebsd.org cc: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Too Evil, Too Furious X-BeenThere: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion of FreeBSD hardware List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 25 Apr 2005 22:08:14 -0000 yeah my assumption was incorrect about how the project was managed if it's a part of the kernel as such then i can see where you're coming from. thanks. On Mon, 25 Apr 2005, Bill Paul wrote: >> Dear Bill Paul, >> >> I asked if you needed help earlier in programming project evil. I was >> wondering if you have a CVS repository of the code. Also, if I partake in >> this endeavour I will be able to supply you with the cards as I am doing >> research for my university I can order these as extras and ship them to >> you. We do a lot of opensource development. Hell I'll even purchase >> these out of pocket. I would like to help tell me what you need done and >> we'll figure something out... > > Ok, a couple of things here: > > 1) Project Evil isn't really a separate project. I gave it a silly name, > but it's really just part of the FreeBSD kernel. > 2) It doesn't have a separate CVS repository. Everything is in the > FreeBSD CVS tree, except for anything I'm hacking on right at this > second (which, at the moment, is nothing). > 3) I don't really need volunteers to offer help. If someone finds > something broken or deficient, decides on their own initiative to > fix it, and then submits the fix, that's great. If you just ask > me if you can help, then the answer is probably no. > > -Bill > > -- > ============================================================================= > -Bill Paul (510) 749-2329 | Senior Engineer, Master of Unix-Fu > wpaul@windriver.com | Wind River Systems > ============================================================================= > you're just BEGGING to face the moose > ============================================================================= > From owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Apr 25 22:12:29 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E0FFA16A4D2 for ; Mon, 25 Apr 2005 22:12:29 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mail22.sea5.speakeasy.net (mail22.sea5.speakeasy.net [69.17.117.24]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AD74543D3F for ; Mon, 25 Apr 2005 22:12:29 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jhb@FreeBSD.org) Received: (qmail 10238 invoked from network); 25 Apr 2005 22:12:29 -0000 Received: from server.baldwin.cx ([216.27.160.63]) (envelope-sender )AES256-SHA encrypted SMTP for ; 25 Apr 2005 22:12:28 -0000 Received: from [192.168.0.15] (osx.baldwin.cx [192.168.0.15]) (authenticated bits=0) by server.baldwin.cx (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id j3PMBvfx027487; Mon, 25 Apr 2005 18:12:23 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from jhb@FreeBSD.org) In-Reply-To: <82729DE6-AEED-11D9-B30D-0050E4AEE820@cableone.net> References: <82729DE6-AEED-11D9-B30D-0050E4AEE820@cableone.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v622) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Message-Id: <712e0eb9caf3926b91565064e00f46d0@FreeBSD.org> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: John Baldwin Date: Mon, 25 Apr 2005 14:40:54 -0400 To: Quinn Evans X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.622) X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.8 required=4.2 tests=ALL_TRUSTED autolearn=failed version=3.0.2 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.0.2 (2004-11-16) on server.baldwin.cx cc: freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: PCMCIA 802.11b w/o Cardbus X-BeenThere: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion of FreeBSD hardware List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 25 Apr 2005 22:12:30 -0000 On Apr 16, 2005, at 11:05 PM, Quinn Evans wrote: > Hello all, > > I recently acquired a Pentium 100MHz laptop, which, unfortunately, > does not include Cardbus, simply 16-bit PCMCIA. My question here is > whether or not anyone knows of a 16-bit PCMCIA 802.11b card that's > compatible with FreeBSD? Any help would be much appreciated. Any of the Lucent-based or Prism-based cards that wi(4) supports are PCMCIA cards that work fine. -- John Baldwin <>< http://www.FreeBSD.org/~jhb/ "Power Users Use the Power to Serve" = http://www.FreeBSD.org From owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Apr 25 22:52:00 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 407BE16A4CE; Mon, 25 Apr 2005 22:52:00 +0000 (GMT) Received: from Neo-Vortex.net (203-173-19-223.dyn.iinet.net.au [203.173.19.223]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 03DF143D58; Mon, 25 Apr 2005 22:51:59 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from root@Neo-Vortex.net) Received: from localhost.Neo-Vortex.got-root.cc (Neo-Vortex@localhost.Neo-Vortex.got-root.cc [127.0.0.1]) by Neo-Vortex.net (8.13.1/8.12.10) with ESMTP id j3PMpuqb090594; Tue, 26 Apr 2005 08:51:57 +1000 (EST) (envelope-from root@Neo-Vortex.net) Date: Tue, 26 Apr 2005 08:51:56 +1000 (EST) From: Neo-Vortex To: Bill Paul In-Reply-To: <20050425171528.7EF8B16A4D3@hub.freebsd.org> Message-ID: <20050426084243.U87982@Neo-Vortex.net> References: <20050425171528.7EF8B16A4D3@hub.freebsd.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII cc: freebsd-current@freebsd.org cc: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Too Evil, Too Furious X-BeenThere: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion of FreeBSD hardware List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 25 Apr 2005 22:52:00 -0000 On Mon, 25 Apr 2005, Bill Paul wrote: > The cards that I can't seem to get my hands on are: > > - Marvell wireless -- supposedly D-Link used this on a card called the > DWL-G510, but only on the first revision. The second board revision > uses an Atheros chipset, which is already supported. Unfortunately, aside > from this one PCI card, this chipset tends to only show up as a built-in > component on motherboards or laptops, which makes it hard for me to just > go out and get one. Also in Asus WL-138G (802.11g) cards - if you want i can take a few pictures of the box and card and/or give you exact chipset information from the card (its visible) - unfortunately as the card is not owned by me, i can not loan it to you. :( And no, it dosent have anything saying what HW revision, although only Marvell drivers exist for it... (on the asus website and cd anyway) Although... i might still be able to help (see below) > If you don't want > to part with your hardware, you can still help by giving me remote access > to a system with the card installed. Note that just giving me a shell > really doesn't help: in order to experiment, I need to be able to load, > test and unload kernel modules, which requires superuser access. The > ideal setup would be to use a serial console, since in some cases it > may be necessary to poke around with the kernel debugger. Don't consider > this unless you have a scratch box lying around that you can afford to > have bounced a few times, because I guarantee you I will crash the thing > a few times before I get it to work. I should be able to set up a shitty p1 test box and stick the card in it if you need... i'll be able to give you serial console access, ssh, etc, the box is yours to do as you wish :) I might need a week or so to get it set up as for i need to salvage a hdd from somewhere and either make up, or buy a nice pretty null-modem cable (to plug into another box - so you can actually access the serial console :P) > Lastly, if you can't do either of these things, you can still help by > providing some important information. If you have one of these cards, > tell me where you got it! Tell me what manufacturer and model number > it is, but also carefully inspect the box it came in and tell me _ANY_ > identifying markings on it that will help me distinguish it from all > the other cards out there. Very often, card distributors will sell two > different cards with the same part number. (I own no less than 4 cards > called the "LinkSys LNE100TX," all of which have different chipsets on > them.) D-Link and Linksys are some of the worst offenders in this area. > Even worse, most PCI cards now have metal RF shields on them that > cover up the chipsets, which makes it impossible to tell what you're > getting just by looking at the picture on the box. > > Look for hardware revision info. Look for firmware revision info. If > you can provide a URL to the exact card you got from the place you > ordered it, even better. Whatever you do, don't just tell "I have > a D-Link model so-and-so." Instead, tell me "I have a D-Link model > so-and-so that I ordered from the following URL, and the box has > a sticker that says HW rev: B3 FW rev: 2.0." If I have info like this, > I can grab a card off a store shelf when I find the right one. Otherwise, > I can't take the chance on paying for it only to find out later it > uses a chipset I already have. I can get a url from the place it was gotten from (i'll have to ask the man who brought it, but it shouldnt be a problem) - although im in Australia... wich might be a problem... the above idea might work a little better :) From owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Apr 26 05:03:55 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 57C6116A4CE; Tue, 26 Apr 2005 05:03:55 +0000 (GMT) Received: from szamoca.krvarr.bc.ca (szamoca.krvarr.bc.ca [142.179.111.232]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EA06543D31; Tue, 26 Apr 2005 05:03:52 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from sandy@krvarr.bc.ca) Received: from szamoca.krvarr.bc.ca (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by szamoca.krvarr.bc.ca (8.13.1/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3Q53oYa043976; Mon, 25 Apr 2005 22:03:50 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from sandy@szamoca.krvarr.bc.ca) Received: (from sandy@localhost) by szamoca.krvarr.bc.ca (8.13.1/8.12.11/Submit) id j3Q53ocg043973; Mon, 25 Apr 2005 22:03:50 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from sandy) From: Sandy Rutherford MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <17005.52150.590534.365619@szamoca.krvarr.bc.ca> Date: Mon, 25 Apr 2005 22:03:50 -0700 To: wpaul@freebsd.org (Bill Paul) In-Reply-To: <20050425171528.7EF8B16A4D3@hub.freebsd.org> References: <20050425171528.7EF8B16A4D3@hub.freebsd.org> X-Mailer: VM 7.07 under Emacs 21.3.1 X-krvarr.bc.ca-MailScanner-Information: Please contact postmaster@krvarr.bc.ca for more information. X-krvarr.bc.ca-MailScanner: Not scanned: please contact postmaster@krvarr.bc.ca for details. X-krvarr.bc.ca-MailScanner-From: sandy@szamoca.krvarr.bc.ca cc: freebsd-current@freebsd.org cc: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Too Evil, Too Furious X-BeenThere: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion of FreeBSD hardware List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 26 Apr 2005 05:03:55 -0000 >>>>> On Mon, 25 Apr 2005 17:15:28 +0000 (GMT), >>>>> wpaul@freebsd.org (Bill Paul) said: > - RayLink RT2500 wireless -- this one shows up on some PCI cards, but > I haven't had any luck finding one locally yet I assume that you mean RaLink (no "y"). Have you tried contacting the people at RaLink? I understand that they are very supportive of open source development. As a result, there is a Linux driver for both the rt2400 and rt2500. The project page is http://sourceforge.net/projects/rt2400. BTW, this driver seems solid. I flogged it hard with flood pings and it held up well. My rt2500 is a Belkin model F5D7010.PCMCIA card, which I have stuck in a laptop running Slackware. Unfort., I need it so I can't send it to you. I am not aware of any PCI cards using the rt2500. Given RaLink's willingness to work with the open source community, wouldn't the rt2500 be a better candidate for a native driver, rather than Project Evil? Sandy From owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Apr 26 05:57:23 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5CF9C16A4CE; Tue, 26 Apr 2005 05:57:23 +0000 (GMT) Received: from Neo-Vortex.net (203-173-19-223.dyn.iinet.net.au [203.173.19.223]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3F85943D1D; Tue, 26 Apr 2005 05:57:22 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from root@Neo-Vortex.net) Received: from localhost.Neo-Vortex.got-root.cc (Neo-Vortex@localhost.Neo-Vortex.got-root.cc [127.0.0.1]) by Neo-Vortex.net (8.13.1/8.12.10) with ESMTP id j3Q5vKUM052887; Tue, 26 Apr 2005 15:57:20 +1000 (EST) (envelope-from root@Neo-Vortex.net) Date: Tue, 26 Apr 2005 15:57:20 +1000 (EST) From: Neo-Vortex To: Sandy Rutherford In-Reply-To: <17005.52150.590534.365619@szamoca.krvarr.bc.ca> Message-ID: <20050426155438.L52269@Neo-Vortex.net> References: <20050425171528.7EF8B16A4D3@hub.freebsd.org> <17005.52150.590534.365619@szamoca.krvarr.bc.ca> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII cc: Bill Paul cc: freebsd-current@freebsd.org cc: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Too Evil, Too Furious X-BeenThere: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion of FreeBSD hardware List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 26 Apr 2005 05:57:23 -0000 On Mon, 25 Apr 2005, Sandy Rutherford wrote: > Given RaLink's willingness to work with the open source community, > wouldn't the rt2500 be a better candidate for a native driver, rather > than Project Evil? Of course... but if RaLink cards dont work with Project Evil, chances are some other cards might use the same kind of thing that RaLink uses in its w32 driver that dosen't work on Project Evil, so they would remain broken... but if it did work... then its more of a complete NDIS 'emulator' or whatever you want to call it... :) - although i think it would probobly be of less importance over the other cards where the manufacturer isn't that nice... ~Neo-Vortex From owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Apr 26 07:15:57 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix, from userid 618) id 2650716A4CF; Tue, 26 Apr 2005 07:15:57 +0000 (GMT) In-Reply-To: <17005.52150.590534.365619@szamoca.krvarr.bc.ca> from Sandy Rutherford at "Apr 25, 2005 10:03:50 pm" To: sandy@krvarr.bc.ca (Sandy Rutherford) Date: Tue, 26 Apr 2005 07:15:57 +0000 (GMT) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL54 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <20050426071557.2650716A4CF@hub.freebsd.org> From: wpaul@FreeBSD.ORG (Bill Paul) cc: freebsd-current@freebsd.org cc: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Too Evil, Too Furious X-BeenThere: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion of FreeBSD hardware List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 26 Apr 2005 07:15:57 -0000 > >>>>> On Mon, 25 Apr 2005 17:15:28 +0000 (GMT), > >>>>> wpaul@freebsd.org (Bill Paul) said: > > > - RayLink RT2500 wireless -- this one shows up on some PCI cards, but > > I haven't had any luck finding one locally yet > > I assume that you mean RaLink (no "y"). Have you tried contacting the > people at RaLink? I understand that they are very supportive of open > source development. As a result, there is a Linux driver for both the > rt2400 and rt2500. If they were really supportive of open source, there would be manuals for the RT2400 and RT2500 chipsets on their website that people could download. Then people could develop drivers for _any_ OS, not just Linux. "But Linux support means open source support, right?" No, it just means Linux support. I'm sure the marketing people would like you to think the two things are equal, but they really aren't. "But you can easily port the Linux driver, right?" Any given network chipset has a number of different features. A driver written for OS A will take advantage of those features that produce good performance on OS A. The chip might also have additional features that would benefit OS B, but if all you have as a reference is the driver for OS A, you might be completely unaware those features exist. That constitutes an unfair handicap, nevermind the time wasted trying to decipher someone else's code before you can write your own. Releasing the manuals insures a level playing field for everyone. > The project page is > http://sourceforge.net/projects/rt2400. BTW, this driver seems solid. > I flogged it hard with flood pings and it held up well. My rt2500 is > a Belkin model F5D7010.PCMCIA card, which I have stuck in a laptop > running Slackware. Unfort., I need it so I can't send it to you. I am > not aware of any PCI cards using the rt2500. You've just provided a perfect example of model number confusion. Your Belkin F5D7010 card has a RaLink chipset. But Belkin has another card also called the F5D7010 which has a Broadcom chipset. I found a Belkin F5D7010 card at CompUSA this past weekend, but I couldn't buy it since there was no way to tell which revision it was, and I didn't want to end up with yet another Broadcom cardbus card. > Given RaLink's willingness to work with the open source community, > wouldn't the rt2500 be a better candidate for a native driver, rather > than Project Evil? Right now my goal is to make Project Evil support the NDIS spec as well as possible, and for that I need to test as many NDIS drivers as possible. If someone else wants to create a native driver, then more power to them. I've written more than enough drivers for one lifetime. -Bill -- ============================================================================= -Bill Paul (510) 749-2329 | Senior Engineer, Master of Unix-Fu wpaul@windriver.com | Wind River Systems ============================================================================= you're just BEGGING to face the moose ============================================================================= From owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Apr 26 08:12:49 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3AC4A16A4CE; Tue, 26 Apr 2005 08:12:49 +0000 (GMT) Received: from szamoca.krvarr.bc.ca (szamoca.krvarr.bc.ca [142.179.111.232]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C61CF43D39; Tue, 26 Apr 2005 08:12:48 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from sandy@krvarr.bc.ca) Received: from szamoca.krvarr.bc.ca (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by szamoca.krvarr.bc.ca (8.13.1/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3Q8Cd2b045068; Tue, 26 Apr 2005 01:12:39 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from sandy@szamoca.krvarr.bc.ca) Received: (from sandy@localhost) by szamoca.krvarr.bc.ca (8.13.1/8.12.11/Submit) id j3Q8CdBp045065; Tue, 26 Apr 2005 01:12:39 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from sandy) From: Sandy Rutherford MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <17005.63479.96819.128347@szamoca.krvarr.bc.ca> Date: Tue, 26 Apr 2005 01:12:39 -0700 To: wpaul@FreeBSD.ORG (Bill Paul) In-Reply-To: <20050426071557.2650716A4CF@hub.freebsd.org> References: <17005.52150.590534.365619@szamoca.krvarr.bc.ca> <20050426071557.2650716A4CF@hub.freebsd.org> X-Mailer: VM 7.07 under Emacs 21.3.1 X-krvarr.bc.ca-MailScanner-Information: Please contact postmaster@krvarr.bc.ca for more information. X-krvarr.bc.ca-MailScanner: Not scanned: please contact postmaster@krvarr.bc.ca for details. X-krvarr.bc.ca-MailScanner-From: sandy@szamoca.krvarr.bc.ca cc: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG cc: freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Too Evil, Too Furious X-BeenThere: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion of FreeBSD hardware List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 26 Apr 2005 08:12:49 -0000 >>>>> On Tue, 26 Apr 2005 07:15:57 +0000 (GMT), >>>>> wpaul@FreeBSD.ORG (Bill Paul) said: >> >>>>> On Mon, 25 Apr 2005 17:15:28 +0000 (GMT), >> >>>>> wpaul@freebsd.org (Bill Paul) said: >> >> > - RayLink RT2500 wireless -- this one shows up on some PCI cards, but >> > I haven't had any luck finding one locally yet >> >> I assume that you mean RaLink (no "y"). Have you tried contacting the >> people at RaLink? I understand that they are very supportive of open >> source development. As a result, there is a Linux driver for both the >> rt2400 and rt2500. > If they were really supportive of open source, there would be manuals > for the RT2400 and RT2500 chipsets on their website that people could > download. ... Well, yes that would be ideal. However, it's worth asking them for the manuals, don't you think? > "But Linux support means open source support, right?" Of course not. I didn't say any such thing. > No, it just means Linux support. I know. > I'm sure the marketing people would like you to think > the two things are equal, but they really aren't. I neither know nor care what the marketing people would like me to believe. As you know, it has become relatively common for vendors to make binary drivers available for Linux. However, in RaLink's case they GPLed the source for their driver. This is not so common and leads me to believe that it is at least worth asking them for manuals. The project developers for the Linux rt2400/rt2500 driver are Ivo van Doorn , Luis Correia , and Mark Wallis . If having the manuals would be helpful for Project Evil, then perhaps, they could put you in contact the relevant person at RaLink. > "But you can easily port the Linux driver, right?" Would you please stop trying to putting words in my mouth. I know that this is neither trivial, nor the best way to go about writing a driver. > You've just provided a perfect example of model number confusion. Your > Belkin F5D7010 card has a RaLink chipset. But Belkin has another card > also called the F5D7010 which has a Broadcom chipset. I found a Belkin > F5D7010 card at CompUSA this past weekend, but I couldn't buy it since > there was no way to tell which revision it was, and I didn't want to > end up with yet another Broadcom cardbus card. I came across http://ralink.rapla.net/, which lists all cards with the rt2500 chipset. It looks like the F5D7010 vers. 2 has the rt2500, whereas presumably vers. 1 uses the Broadcom chipset. My card has vers. 3 on it, which isn't listed in the table. It seems that they stuck with the rt2500 for vers. 3. I agree with you that hardware manufacturers should do a complete model number change when they change chipsets, rather than just update the rev. number. > Right now my goal is to make Project Evil support the NDIS spec as > well as possible, and for that I need to test as many NDIS drivers as > possible. > If someone else wants to create a native driver, then more power to > them. I've written more than enough drivers for one lifetime. I know. [szamoca:38] grep "Bill Paul" /usr/src/sys/pci/* | wc -l 112 [szamoca:39] Thanks, by the way. Sandy From owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Apr 26 08:51:39 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7648416A4CE; Tue, 26 Apr 2005 08:51:39 +0000 (GMT) Received: from kraid.nerim.net (smtp-102-tuesday.nerim.net [62.4.16.102]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A84D043D2D; Tue, 26 Apr 2005 08:51:38 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from e-masson@kisoft-services.com) Received: from srvbsdnanssv.interne.kisoft-services.com (kisoft.net1.nerim.net [62.212.107.51]) by kraid.nerim.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 69DC043C10; Tue, 26 Apr 2005 10:51:36 +0200 (CEST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1])9118DC325; Tue, 26 Apr 2005 10:51:34 +0200 (CEST) Received: from srvbsdnanssv.interne.kisoft-services.com ([127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 25158-07; Tue, 26 Apr 2005 10:51:34 +0200 (CEST) Received: by srvbsdnanssv.interne.kisoft-services.com (Postfix, from userid 1001) id D96D7C30B; Tue, 26 Apr 2005 10:51:33 +0200 (CEST) To: Sandy Rutherford From: Eric Masson In-Reply-To: <17005.63479.96819.128347@szamoca.krvarr.bc.ca> (Sandy Rutherford's message of "Tue, 26 Apr 2005 01:12:39 -0700") References: <17005.52150.590534.365619@szamoca.krvarr.bc.ca> <20050426071557.2650716A4CF@hub.freebsd.org> <17005.63479.96819.128347@szamoca.krvarr.bc.ca> X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 5.4-RC3 i386 Date: Tue, 26 Apr 2005 10:51:33 +0200 Message-ID: <86acnlx6ne.fsf@srvbsdnanssv.interne.kisoft-services.com> User-Agent: Gnus/5.1006 (Gnus v5.10.6) XEmacs/21.4 (Security Through Obscurity, berkeley-unix) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-15 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at interne.kisoft-services.com cc: Bill Paul cc: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG cc: freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Too Evil, Too Furious X-BeenThere: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion of FreeBSD hardware List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 26 Apr 2005 08:51:39 -0000 Sandy Rutherford writes: > If having the manuals would be helpful for Project Evil, then perhaps, > they could put you in contact the relevant person at RaLink. I don't think it could help Bill in any way as Project Evil goal is using Ndis drivers in FreeBSD. Iirc, Damien Bergamini got support from Ralink in writing ral(4) and ural(4) drivers. Éric Masson -- > Passe que moi, au départ, j'avais fait informatique comme études, pas > NT, et je voudrais revenir à mon métier premier. -+- BB in Guide du Linuxien pervers - Bien configurer son metier. From owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Apr 26 09:12:08 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5FA8B16A4D9; Tue, 26 Apr 2005 09:12:08 +0000 (GMT) Received: from szamoca.krvarr.bc.ca (szamoca.krvarr.bc.ca [142.179.111.232]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DBF7943D53; Tue, 26 Apr 2005 09:12:07 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from sandy@krvarr.bc.ca) Received: from szamoca.krvarr.bc.ca (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by szamoca.krvarr.bc.ca (8.13.1/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3Q9C0Au045426; Tue, 26 Apr 2005 02:12:00 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from sandy@szamoca.krvarr.bc.ca) Received: (from sandy@localhost) by szamoca.krvarr.bc.ca (8.13.1/8.12.11/Submit) id j3Q9Bxtl045423; Tue, 26 Apr 2005 02:11:59 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from sandy) From: Sandy Rutherford MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <17006.1503.797853.320224@szamoca.krvarr.bc.ca> Date: Tue, 26 Apr 2005 02:11:59 -0700 To: Eric Masson In-Reply-To: <86acnlx6ne.fsf@srvbsdnanssv.interne.kisoft-services.com> References: <17005.52150.590534.365619@szamoca.krvarr.bc.ca> <20050426071557.2650716A4CF@hub.freebsd.org> <17005.63479.96819.128347@szamoca.krvarr.bc.ca> <86acnlx6ne.fsf@srvbsdnanssv.interne.kisoft-services.com> X-Mailer: VM 7.07 under Emacs 21.3.1 X-krvarr.bc.ca-MailScanner-Information: Please contact postmaster@krvarr.bc.ca for more information. X-krvarr.bc.ca-MailScanner: Not scanned: please contact postmaster@krvarr.bc.ca for details. X-krvarr.bc.ca-MailScanner-From: sandy@szamoca.krvarr.bc.ca cc: Bill Paul cc: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG cc: freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Too Evil, Too Furious X-BeenThere: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion of FreeBSD hardware List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 26 Apr 2005 09:12:08 -0000 >>>>> On Tue, 26 Apr 2005 10:51:33 +0200, >>>>> Eric Masson said: > Iirc, Damien Bergamini got support from Ralink in writing ral(4) and > ural(4) drivers. I wasn't aware of ral(4). Is this in 6.0-current (I'm not on the -current list). Sandy From owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Apr 26 09:34:52 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1FA0316A4CE; Tue, 26 Apr 2005 09:34:52 +0000 (GMT) Received: from szamoca.krvarr.bc.ca (szamoca.krvarr.bc.ca [142.179.111.232]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C133A43D58; Tue, 26 Apr 2005 09:34:51 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from sandy@krvarr.bc.ca) Received: from szamoca.krvarr.bc.ca (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by szamoca.krvarr.bc.ca (8.13.1/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3Q9YlA2045534; Tue, 26 Apr 2005 02:34:47 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from sandy@szamoca.krvarr.bc.ca) Received: (from sandy@localhost) by szamoca.krvarr.bc.ca (8.13.1/8.12.11/Submit) id j3Q9YlAZ045531; Tue, 26 Apr 2005 02:34:47 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from sandy) From: Sandy Rutherford MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <17006.2871.132904.797436@szamoca.krvarr.bc.ca> Date: Tue, 26 Apr 2005 02:34:47 -0700 To: Eric Masson , wpaul@FreeBSD.ORG (Bill Paul), freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <17006.1503.797853.320224@szamoca.krvarr.bc.ca> References: <17005.52150.590534.365619@szamoca.krvarr.bc.ca> <20050426071557.2650716A4CF@hub.freebsd.org> <17005.63479.96819.128347@szamoca.krvarr.bc.ca> <86acnlx6ne.fsf@srvbsdnanssv.interne.kisoft-services.com> <17006.1503.797853.320224@szamoca.krvarr.bc.ca> X-Mailer: VM 7.07 under Emacs 21.3.1 X-krvarr.bc.ca-MailScanner-Information: Please contact postmaster@krvarr.bc.ca for more information. X-krvarr.bc.ca-MailScanner: Not scanned: please contact postmaster@krvarr.bc.ca for details. X-krvarr.bc.ca-MailScanner-From: sandy@szamoca.krvarr.bc.ca Subject: Re: Too Evil, Too Furious X-BeenThere: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion of FreeBSD hardware List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 26 Apr 2005 09:34:52 -0000 >>>>> On Tue, 26 Apr 2005 02:11:59 -0700, >>>>> Sandy Rutherford said: >>>>> On Tue, 26 Apr 2005 10:51:33 +0200, >>>>> Eric Masson said: >> Iirc, Damien Bergamini got support from Ralink in writing ral(4) and >> ural(4) drivers. > I wasn't aware of ral(4). Is this in 6.0-current (I'm not on the > -current list). To answer my own post... ral(4) is a native rt2500 driver for *BSD. It was committed to CURRENT on April 19. See: http://damien.bergamini.free.fr/ral/. Bill, if you check the link "Supported Devices" on this page you will get a table of cards with the rt2500 chipset. I think that this is the same table that I pointed you to earlier. Sandy From owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Apr 26 12:58:18 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 762E216A4CE for ; Tue, 26 Apr 2005 12:58:18 +0000 (GMT) Received: from fast.dnswatch.com (fast.dnswatch.com [216.177.243.43]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C5D7343D46 for ; Tue, 26 Apr 2005 12:58:17 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from null@dnswatch.com) Received: from fast.dnswatch.com (localhost.dnswatch.com [127.0.0.1]) by fast.dnswatch.com (8.12.6/8.12.6) with ESMTP id j3QCwDsm056346 for ; Tue, 26 Apr 2005 05:58:17 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from null@dnswatch.com) Received: (from www@localhost) by fast.dnswatch.com (8.12.6/8.12.6/Submit) id j3QCwCoA056345; Tue, 26 Apr 2005 05:58:12 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from null@dnswatch.com) X-Authentication-Warning: fast.dnswatch.com: www set sender to null@dnswatch.com using -f Received: from mail.1command.com ([216.177.243.35]) (DNSwatch.com_WebMail authenticated user null) by webmail.dnswatch.com with HTTP; Tue, 26 Apr 2005 05:58:11 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <52480.216.177.243.35.1114520291.localmail@webmail.dnswatch.com> Date: Tue, 26 Apr 2005 05:58:11 -0700 (PDT) From: "/dev/null" To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org User-Agent: DNSwatch.com_WebMail/1.4.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 Importance: Normal Subject: P2B-AE support X-BeenThere: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion of FreeBSD hardware List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 26 Apr 2005 12:58:18 -0000 Greetings everyone, I have just finished performing surgery on an ASUS P2B-AE motherboard. What I have done is simply provided support for the bus speeds that the boards timer is capable of providing, but that ASUS removed for SONY. For those that are not already familiar; this is a mobo that ASUS used for in-house R&D and later sold to SONY which sent it out as a VIAO. As it (the board) was the proto for the ASUS P3B-1394, I am using that BIOS image as opposed to the one that SONY provided. My question: As I'm now cobbling a kernel for this. I noticed that there may be some issues with the sony PIC handling as I grepped the i386/conf/NOTES file. I'm currently running 5.4 with a GENERIC kernel. So I was just hoping that anyone familiar with these boards could share their experiences. As I hope to head off any *unforseen problems*. Thanks for all your time and consideration in this matter. -Chris //////////////////////////////////////////////////// If only Western Electric had found a way to offer binary licenses for the UNIX system back in 1974, the UNIX system would be running on all PC's today rather than DOS/Windows. //////////////////////////////////////////////////// From owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Apr 26 16:38:48 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8F6B416A4CE for ; Tue, 26 Apr 2005 16:38:48 +0000 (GMT) Received: from Tupper.dotcanada.com (tupper.dotcanada.com [69.90.8.15]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 450E843D5D for ; Tue, 26 Apr 2005 16:38:48 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from alex@amfeltec.com) Received: from cpanel by Tupper.dotcanada.com with local (Exim 4.50) id 1DQT5I-0007fp-0u for freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org; Tue, 26 Apr 2005 12:38:52 -0400 Received: from 64.229.115.204 ([64.229.115.204]) by www.amfeltec.com (Horde) with HTTP for ; Tue, 26 Apr 2005 12:38:51 -0400 Message-ID: <20050426123851.elp1vyx2keocw800@www.amfeltec.com> Date: Tue, 26 Apr 2005 12:38:51 -0400 From: alex@amfeltec.com To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit User-Agent: Internet Messaging Program (IMP) H3 (4.0) X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - Tupper.dotcanada.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - freebsd.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [32001 32001] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - amfeltec.com X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: Subject: i80960 processor X-BeenThere: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion of FreeBSD hardware List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 26 Apr 2005 16:38:48 -0000 Hello everyone, is somebody can tell me if FreeBSD supports i80960 Intel processor? Thank you Alex From owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Apr 26 18:29:59 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B24AE16A50F for ; Tue, 26 Apr 2005 18:29:59 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mail22.sea5.speakeasy.net (mail22.sea5.speakeasy.net [69.17.117.24]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8616843D2D for ; Tue, 26 Apr 2005 18:29:59 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jhb@FreeBSD.org) Received: (qmail 5379 invoked from network); 26 Apr 2005 18:29:59 -0000 Received: from server.baldwin.cx ([216.27.160.63]) (envelope-sender )AES256-SHA encrypted SMTP for ; 26 Apr 2005 18:29:58 -0000 Received: from roboboy.corp.weather.com (gw1.twc.weather.com [216.133.140.1]) (authenticated bits=0) by server.baldwin.cx (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id j3QITfvS034307; Tue, 26 Apr 2005 14:29:51 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from jhb@FreeBSD.org) From: John Baldwin To: freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.org Date: Tue, 26 Apr 2005 12:55:47 -0400 User-Agent: KMail/1.8 References: <20050426123851.elp1vyx2keocw800@www.amfeltec.com> In-Reply-To: <20050426123851.elp1vyx2keocw800@www.amfeltec.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200504261255.48324.jhb@FreeBSD.org> X-Spam-Status: No, score=-102.8 required=4.2 tests=ALL_TRUSTED, USER_IN_WHITELIST autolearn=failed version=3.0.2 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.0.2 (2004-11-16) on server.baldwin.cx cc: alex@amfeltec.com Subject: Re: i80960 processor X-BeenThere: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion of FreeBSD hardware List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 26 Apr 2005 18:29:59 -0000 On Tuesday 26 April 2005 12:38 pm, alex@amfeltec.com wrote: > Hello everyone, > > is somebody can tell me if FreeBSD supports i80960 Intel processor? Nope. -- John Baldwin <>< http://www.FreeBSD.org/~jhb/ "Power Users Use the Power to Serve" = http://www.FreeBSD.org From owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Apr 27 19:05:39 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3708516A4CE for ; Wed, 27 Apr 2005 19:05:39 +0000 (GMT) Received: from tino.sinectis.com.ar (tino.sinectis.com.ar [216.244.192.232]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AB14643D53 for ; Wed, 27 Apr 2005 19:05:38 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from bfranco@uolsinectis.com.ar) Received: by tino.sinectis.com.ar (Postfix, from userid 99) id 905B96C65A; Wed, 27 Apr 2005 16:05:37 -0300 (GMT+3) Content-Type: text/plain Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Sinectis Webmail 5.6.16-1.5.1 From: bfranco@uolsinectis.com.ar To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Message-Id: <20050427190537.905B96C65A@tino.sinectis.com.ar> Date: Wed, 27 Apr 2005 16:05:37 -0300 (GMT+3) Subject: 3ware 9500 problems X-BeenThere: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: bfranco@uolsinectis.com.ar List-Id: General discussion of FreeBSD hardware List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 27 Apr 2005 19:05:39 -0000 Hi everyone in the list. I'm having problems with a 3ware 9500s - 8 ports (with 4 x WDC WD1600JD-22HBB0 SATA 150 in RAID 5). Every 10 days or so my server shuts down uncleanly. It used to happen almost every day until I added hint.acpi.0.disabled="1" to my loader.conf. Syslog reports: ... Apr 8 12:06:42 titan kernel: twa0: ERROR: (0x04: 0x003a): Drive power on reset detected: port=3 Apr 8 12:06:42 titan kernel: twa0: ERROR: (0x04: 0x0025): Error flushing cached write data to disk: unit=0 Apr 8 12:06:42 titan kernel: twa0: ERROR: (0x04: 0x0002): Degraded unit detected: unit=0, port=3 Apr 8 12:08:04 titan kernel: twa0: INFO: (0x04: 0x000b): Rebuild started: unit=0 Apr 8 13:13:34 titan syslogd: kernel boot file is /boot/kernel/kernel Apr 8 13:13:34 titan kernel: Copyright (c) 1992-2005 The FreeBSD Project. Apr 8 13:13:34 titan kernel: Copyright (c) 1979, 1980, 1983, 1986, 1988, 1989, 1991, 1992, 1993, 1994 ... Does anyone have any clue about what's going on? I have another server, same configuration but with a 3ware 7500 - 4 ports (ATA) , and it works great. Motherboard is Tyan S5120AGNF (tomcat i915g). Processor is a PIV 530J 3Ghz (disabled ht from bios). twa support is enabled in kernel (5.3-STABLE FreeBSD 5.3-STABLE #2). Thanks in advance. From owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Apr 27 19:23:56 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E654316A4CE; Wed, 27 Apr 2005 19:23:56 +0000 (GMT) Received: from daisy.mrmouse.ch (daisy.mrmouse.ch [81.94.97.92]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C08C443D58; Wed, 27 Apr 2005 19:23:55 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from steven.glogger@ch.easynet.net) Received: from mouse1 (home1.mrmouse.ch [81.94.100.2]) (authenticated bits=0) by daisy.mrmouse.ch (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id j3RJNp8p004929; Wed, 27 Apr 2005 21:23:51 +0200 From: "Steven Glogger" To: , Date: Wed, 27 Apr 2005 21:23:57 +0200 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.6604 (9.0.2911.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4927.1200 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: X-Virus-Scanned: by AMaViS/Sophos Anti-Virus for Unix X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=AWL autolearn=ham version=2.63 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on daisy.mrmouse.ch Subject: SATA RAID 1 controllers for Intel board X-BeenThere: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: steven.glogger@ch.easynet.net List-Id: General discussion of FreeBSD hardware List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 27 Apr 2005 19:23:57 -0000 hi all i'm fighting a little bit with a new intel server. i bought an intel SE7210TP1-E server with integrated RAID controller (SATA) and thought: nice, one box everything inside ,-) but it seems that the raid controller is not supported by any freebsd version (i would love to see it running on 5.x). on some posts i saw that the onboard controller is some kind of 'software-raid' - but i don't care ,-) anyhow, i didn't got this onboard raid controller (which seems to be an adaptec hostraid) working. (if someone knows how to do it: please mail! *beggin*). anyhow, i had the fabulous idea to buy an high point 1520 SATA raid controller which is working fine in other servers. but i didn't expected intel to NOT work with this controller ;-( i tried several hours (incl. bios upgrades, etc.) to just BOOT from this raid controller (with and without any raid). even when in the amibios is set: primary boot device -> "RocketRaid 1520 SATA controller" nothing will ever boot from this device (and yes, i set the disk to 'active' - it will boot if i put the disc directly to the on-board plug). i contacted intel and they told me: "Unfortunately we have not validated any High Point RAID controller on Intel(R) Entry Server Board SE7210TP1-E For a list of tested and validated hardware for this board please visit the following URL: http://support.intel.com/support/motherboards/server/se7210tp1-e/sb/cs-00992 0.htm " well, nice isn't it? ;-) (if someone knows how to get this controller running on that specific board: let me know). after reading the tested-hardware list (see link from intel) i found out that the "FastTrak S150 TX4" should boot ;-) but after looking on google and the mailinglist i couldn't figure out if freebsd 5.X would recognize it. does anyone want to share some of his experience how to get a raid running with either the on-board controller, the hightpoint controller or an fasttrak S150 TX4? ;-) (otherwise i would prepare a software raid) greetings! & many thanks in advance ,-) -steven From owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Apr 27 20:34:06 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6BA4E16A4CE for ; Wed, 27 Apr 2005 20:34:06 +0000 (GMT) Received: from vsmtp4.tin.it (vsmtp4.tin.it [212.216.176.224]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F402D43D4C for ; Wed, 27 Apr 2005 20:34:05 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from eivico@tin.it) Received: from guildurno (82.52.63.129) by vsmtp4.tin.it (7.0.027) id 425386DA008CE1E4 for freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org; Wed, 27 Apr 2005 22:34:04 +0200 Message-ID: <004901c54b68$73d9e930$03fea8c0@guildurno> From: "Roberto Corradi" To: Date: Wed, 27 Apr 2005 22:34:03 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.1 Subject: Ethernet Interface - PING problem X-BeenThere: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion of FreeBSD hardware List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 27 Apr 2005 20:34:06 -0000 Hello Everybody! I'm trying to work with my FreeBSD-5.3 release in my LAN, but i've found some networking-trouble. I've got a "PCI CNet PRO200WL" Ethernet interface, and it seems to bo well-configured. This is the "ifconfig -a" output: dc0: flags=3D108843 mtu 1500 options=3D8 inet 192.168.254.3 netmask 0xffffff00 broadcast 192.168.254.255 inet6 fe80::208:a1ff:fe2a:1744%dc0 prefixlen 64 scopeid 0x1 ether 00:08:a1:2a:17:44 media: Ethernet autoselect (100baseTX ) status: active plip0: flags=3D108810 mtu 1500 lo0: flags=3D8049 mtu 16384 inet 127.0.0.1 netmask 0xff000000 inet6 ::1 prefixlen 128 inet6 fe80::1%lo0 prefixlen 64 scopeid 0x3 But when I try: > ping send to: host is down I can't ping any host in my lan!! At boot time, while system is probing interfaces, this messagge is written (dc0 is my network interface): dc0: failed to force tx and rx to idle state Can anybody help me, please? ^_^ Thanks a lot Guys, this newsgroup is a really useful tool for beginners! :-) Thanks again. ps: I'm sorry for my.. english! From owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Apr 27 22:44:05 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 81AD716A4CE for ; Wed, 27 Apr 2005 22:44:05 +0000 (GMT) Received: from Neo-Vortex.net (203-173-19-223.dyn.iinet.net.au [203.173.19.223]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 590B043D1D for ; Wed, 27 Apr 2005 22:44:04 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from root@Neo-Vortex.net) Received: from localhost.Neo-Vortex.got-root.cc (Neo-Vortex@localhost.Neo-Vortex.got-root.cc [127.0.0.1]) by Neo-Vortex.net (8.13.1/8.12.10) with ESMTP id j3RMi10Y012879; Thu, 28 Apr 2005 08:44:03 +1000 (EST) (envelope-from root@Neo-Vortex.net) Date: Thu, 28 Apr 2005 08:44:01 +1000 (EST) From: Neo-Vortex To: Roberto Corradi In-Reply-To: <004901c54b68$73d9e930$03fea8c0@guildurno> Message-ID: <20050428083808.E10942@Neo-Vortex.net> References: <004901c54b68$73d9e930$03fea8c0@guildurno> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII cc: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Ethernet Interface - PING problem X-BeenThere: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion of FreeBSD hardware List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 27 Apr 2005 22:44:05 -0000 On Wed, 27 Apr 2005, Roberto Corradi wrote: > dc0: flags=108843 mtu 1500 > options=8 > inet 192.168.254.3 netmask 0xffffff00 broadcast 192.168.254.255 > inet6 fe80::208:a1ff:fe2a:1744%dc0 prefixlen 64 scopeid 0x1 > ether 00:08:a1:2a:17:44 > media: Ethernet autoselect (100baseTX ) > status: active > > ping > send to: host is down > > I can't ping any host in my lan!! > At boot time, while system is probing interfaces, > this messagge is written (dc0 is my network interface): I presume the rest of your lan is on the 192.168.254.* range? Do you have any firewalls enabled on any of the box's? Can you ping the FreeBSD box from other box's? What does a packet sniffer show when you try to ping it or get ping'd from other box's? Are packets actually being send and recieved? Is the switch/hub dodgy? Try chaning ports to a port you know to work. Is there any encryption running over the network? (ie, ipsec and the like) ~Neo-Vortex From owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Apr 27 23:36:29 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 47E0D16A4D4; Wed, 27 Apr 2005 23:36:29 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtp1.linkline.com (smtp1.linkline.com [66.59.235.27]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 113E943D53; Wed, 27 Apr 2005 23:36:29 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from sclements@linkline.com) Received: from [127.0.0.1] (host-66-59-225-129.lcinet.net [66.59.225.129]) by smtp1.linkline.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E9A989CCC4; Wed, 27 Apr 2005 16:36:25 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <427021F9.1010704@linkline.com> Date: Wed, 27 Apr 2005 16:36:25 -0700 From: Samuel Clements User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (Windows/20041206) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: steven.glogger@ch.easynet.net References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org cc: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Subject: Re: SATA RAID 1 controllers for Intel board X-BeenThere: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion of FreeBSD hardware List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 27 Apr 2005 23:36:29 -0000 Should work just fine with the integrated ICH5R if you CVSUP to -CURRENT. sos@ has done major work to the ata code recently and I have many of this exact machine up and running right now. I had to: Enable SATA RAID in the BIOS but define no raid Install FreeBSD on ad4 (or the first disk) CVSUP to current and rebuild kernel edit your fstab and change all the ad4 (or whatever disk you installed on) entries to ar0 go into RAID BIOS and create a RAID from the first drive When it asks you how to create the array, choose Build and it'll copy your first drive to the second drive, creating a mirror. reboot your machine and it should 'just work' -Sam Steven Glogger wrote: > hi all > > i'm fighting a little bit with a new intel server. > i bought an intel SE7210TP1-E server with integrated RAID controller (SATA) > and thought: nice, one box everything inside ,-) > but it seems that the raid controller is not supported by any freebsd > version (i would love to see it running on 5.x). > on some posts i saw that the onboard controller is some kind of > 'software-raid' - but i don't care ,-) > anyhow, i didn't got this onboard raid controller (which seems to be an > adaptec hostraid) working. > (if someone knows how to do it: please mail! *beggin*). > > anyhow, i had the fabulous idea to buy an high point 1520 SATA raid > controller which is working fine in other servers. > but i didn't expected intel to NOT work with this controller ;-( > i tried several hours (incl. bios upgrades, etc.) to just BOOT from this > raid controller (with and without any raid). > even when in the amibios is set: primary boot device -> "RocketRaid 1520 > SATA controller" nothing will ever boot from this device (and yes, i set the > disk to 'active' - it will boot if i put the disc directly to the on-board > plug). > > i contacted intel and they told me: > > "Unfortunately we have not validated any High Point RAID controller on > Intel(R) Entry Server Board SE7210TP1-E > For a list of tested and validated hardware for this board please visit the > following URL: > http://support.intel.com/support/motherboards/server/se7210tp1-e/sb/cs-00992 > 0.htm > " > > well, nice isn't it? ;-) > (if someone knows how to get this controller running on that specific board: > let me know). > > after reading the tested-hardware list (see link from intel) i found out > that the "FastTrak S150 TX4" should boot ;-) > but after looking on google and the mailinglist i couldn't figure out if > freebsd 5.X would recognize it. > > does anyone want to share some of his experience how to get a raid running > with either the on-board controller, the hightpoint controller or an > fasttrak S150 TX4? ;-) (otherwise i would prepare a software raid) > > > greetings! & many thanks in advance ,-) > > -steven > > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-hardware > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-hardware-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Apr 27 23:42:26 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3E66B16A4CE; Wed, 27 Apr 2005 23:42:26 +0000 (GMT) Received: from aramaki.bong.com.au (aramaki.bong.com.au [203.91.232.99]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5BAB343D2F; Wed, 27 Apr 2005 23:42:25 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from dean@bong.com.au) Received: from paynet-gw.penrithcity.nsw.gov.au ([203.91.245.98] helo=[127.0.0.1]) by aramaki.bong.com.au with asmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1DQwIt-00007O-Mr; Thu, 28 Apr 2005 09:50:55 +1000 Message-ID: <42702354.9010709@bong.com.au> Date: Thu, 28 Apr 2005 09:42:12 +1000 From: Dean Hamstead User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.2 (Windows/20050317) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Samuel Clements References: <427021F9.1010704@linkline.com> In-Reply-To: <427021F9.1010704@linkline.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Score: -2.8 X-Spam-Report: Spam detection software, running on the system "aramaki.bong.com.au", hasmessagelabel similar future email. If you have any questions, see staff@bong.com.au for details. Content preview: [...] Content analysis details: (-2.8 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description -------------------------------------------------- -2.8 ALL_TRUSTED Did not pass through any untrusted hosts X-Spam-Scanned-By: aramaki.bong.com.au X-Scan-Signature: 7f9180a67a5adf43953173239fc52879 cc: steven.glogger@ch.easynet.net cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org cc: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Subject: Re: SATA RAID 1 controllers for Intel board X-BeenThere: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion of FreeBSD hardware List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 27 Apr 2005 23:42:26 -0000 be awair that often 'hardare raid' ata and sata controllers actually just have bioses which can boot from raided disks and then hand over to the OS. therefore their is no actual difference between 'hardware' and software raid as your cpu is doing the work please see documentation relating to your disk controller Dean Samuel Clements wrote: > Should work just fine with the integrated ICH5R if you CVSUP to > -CURRENT. sos@ has done major work to the ata code recently and I have > many of this exact machine up and running right now. I had to: > > Enable SATA RAID in the BIOS but define no raid > Install FreeBSD on ad4 (or the first disk) > CVSUP to current and rebuild kernel > edit your fstab and change all the ad4 (or whatever disk you installed > on) entries to ar0 > go into RAID BIOS and create a RAID from the first drive > > When it asks you how to create the array, choose Build and it'll copy > your first drive to the second drive, creating a mirror. > > reboot your machine and it should 'just work' > -Sam > > > Steven Glogger wrote: > >> hi all >> >> i'm fighting a little bit with a new intel server. >> i bought an intel SE7210TP1-E server with integrated RAID controller >> (SATA) >> and thought: nice, one box everything inside ,-) >> but it seems that the raid controller is not supported by any freebsd >> version (i would love to see it running on 5.x). >> on some posts i saw that the onboard controller is some kind of >> 'software-raid' - but i don't care ,-) >> anyhow, i didn't got this onboard raid controller (which seems to be an >> adaptec hostraid) working. >> (if someone knows how to do it: please mail! *beggin*). >> >> anyhow, i had the fabulous idea to buy an high point 1520 SATA raid >> controller which is working fine in other servers. >> but i didn't expected intel to NOT work with this controller ;-( >> i tried several hours (incl. bios upgrades, etc.) to just BOOT from this >> raid controller (with and without any raid). >> even when in the amibios is set: primary boot device -> "RocketRaid 1520 >> SATA controller" nothing will ever boot from this device (and yes, i >> set the >> disk to 'active' - it will boot if i put the disc directly to the >> on-board >> plug). >> >> i contacted intel and they told me: >> >> "Unfortunately we have not validated any High Point RAID controller on >> Intel(R) Entry Server Board SE7210TP1-E >> For a list of tested and validated hardware for this board please >> visit the >> following URL: >> http://support.intel.com/support/motherboards/server/se7210tp1-e/sb/cs-00992 >> >> 0.htm >> " >> >> well, nice isn't it? ;-) >> (if someone knows how to get this controller running on that specific >> board: >> let me know). >> >> after reading the tested-hardware list (see link from intel) i found out >> that the "FastTrak S150 TX4" should boot ;-) >> but after looking on google and the mailinglist i couldn't figure out if >> freebsd 5.X would recognize it. >> >> does anyone want to share some of his experience how to get a raid >> running >> with either the on-board controller, the hightpoint controller or an >> fasttrak S150 TX4? ;-) (otherwise i would prepare a software raid) >> >> >> greetings! & many thanks in advance ,-) >> >> -steven >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org mailing list >> http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-hardware >> To unsubscribe, send any mail to >> "freebsd-hardware-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-hardware > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-hardware-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Apr 28 00:02:33 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 985ED16A4CE for ; Thu, 28 Apr 2005 00:02:33 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtp811.mail.sc5.yahoo.com (smtp811.mail.sc5.yahoo.com [66.163.170.81]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 0FD2F43D5E for ; Thu, 28 Apr 2005 00:02:32 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from noackjr@alumni.rice.edu) Received: from unknown (HELO optimator.noacks.org) (noacks@swbell.net@70.240.205.64 with login) by smtp811.mail.sc5.yahoo.com with SMTP; 28 Apr 2005 00:02:32 -0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by optimator.noacks.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0C9076121; Wed, 27 Apr 2005 19:02:31 -0500 (CDT) Received: from optimator.noacks.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (optimator.noacks.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 38334-03; Wed, 27 Apr 2005 19:02:28 -0500 (CDT) Received: from compgeek.noacks.org (compgeek [192.168.1.10]) by optimator.noacks.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 53B4D610A; Wed, 27 Apr 2005 19:02:28 -0500 (CDT) Received: from [127.0.0.1] (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by compgeek.noacks.org (8.13.3/8.13.3) with ESMTP id j3S02RkJ093112; Wed, 27 Apr 2005 19:02:27 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from noackjr@alumni.rice.edu) Message-ID: <42702812.1080705@alumni.rice.edu> Date: Wed, 27 Apr 2005 19:02:26 -0500 From: Jonathan Noack User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.2 (X11/20050406) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Samuel Clements References: <427021F9.1010704@linkline.com> In-Reply-To: <427021F9.1010704@linkline.com> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.91.0.0 OpenPGP: id=991D8195; url=http://www.noacks.org/cert/noackjr.asc Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at noacks.org cc: steven.glogger@ch.easynet.net cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org cc: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Subject: Re: SATA RAID 1 controllers for Intel board X-BeenThere: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: noackjr@alumni.rice.edu List-Id: General discussion of FreeBSD hardware List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 28 Apr 2005 00:02:33 -0000 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On 04/27/05 18:36, Samuel Clements wrote: > Should work just fine with the integrated ICH5R if you CVSUP to > -CURRENT. sos@ has done major work to the ata code recently and I have > many of this exact machine up and running right now. I had to: > > Enable SATA RAID in the BIOS but define no raid > Install FreeBSD on ad4 (or the first disk) > CVSUP to current and rebuild kernel > edit your fstab and change all the ad4 (or whatever disk you installed > on) entries to ar0 > go into RAID BIOS and create a RAID from the first drive > > When it asks you how to create the array, choose Build and it'll copy > your first drive to the second drive, creating a mirror. > > reboot your machine and it should 'just work' Please do not top post. > Steven Glogger wrote: >> i'm fighting a little bit with a new intel server. >> i bought an intel SE7210TP1-E server with integrated RAID controller >> (SATA) >> and thought: nice, one box everything inside ,-) >> but it seems that the raid controller is not supported by any freebsd >> version (i would love to see it running on 5.x). >> on some posts i saw that the onboard controller is some kind of >> 'software-raid' - but i don't care ,-) >> anyhow, i didn't got this onboard raid controller (which seems to be an >> adaptec hostraid) working. >> (if someone knows how to do it: please mail! *beggin*). I was gonna say just define the array beforehand and use the latest 6.x snapshot ISO (http://www.freebsd.org/snapshots/), but it looks like ATA mkIII didn't make it into the tree until 2 weeks after the last snapshot. Until the next snapshot is built it looks like you're stuck using the procedure Samuel described. - -- Jonathan Noack | noackjr@alumni.rice.edu | OpenPGP: 0x991D8195 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.1 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFCcCgSUFz01pkdgZURAh0NAKC73kXVn1h7N+vNBIknQ6S1i7WX8gCgvYq9 u7SV0rk1f4+ZXHIZjUVlM08= =20Jm -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Apr 28 10:18:06 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6434F16A4CE for ; Thu, 28 Apr 2005 10:18:06 +0000 (GMT) Received: from WAYNEXT.COM (ns1.waynext.com [81.92.195.81]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0650243D3F for ; Thu, 28 Apr 2005 10:18:05 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from marco.goncalves@waynext.com) Received: from marco ([213.22.87.242]) by WAYNEXT.COM with MailEnable ESMTP; Thu, 28 Apr 2005 11:25:47 +0100 Message-ID: <055d01c54bdb$eb4eacd0$3000a8c0@marco> From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Marco_Gon=E7alves?= To: Date: Thu, 28 Apr 2005 11:20:36 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1478 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1478 Subject: Dell Optiplex GX280 X-BeenThere: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion of FreeBSD hardware List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 28 Apr 2005 10:18:06 -0000 Hi list, Does anyone has experience with FreeBSD with it? Im thinking in running 5 stable will it detect properly the hardware (primary concerns are sata disk and network card) ? Thanks in advance Marco Gonçalves Analista-Programador WayNext [w] www.waynext.com [@] marco.goncalves@waynext.com [t] (+351) 21 424 0002 Taguspark, N.C. 238, Oeiras, Portugal From owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Apr 28 15:29:29 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9BEF416A4CE for ; Thu, 28 Apr 2005 15:29:29 +0000 (GMT) Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.199]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 15EB743D5A for ; Thu, 28 Apr 2005 15:29:29 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from lovitt@gmail.com) Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 69so611830wri for ; Thu, 28 Apr 2005 08:29:28 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=TQfBy1IBdBvrOsfkEJL+UAsm3649o5EYoZ2Din2uvQ9rLpdxop9kcOSOVgsUHAJqwRjITPKENgHALn9REdO/YbtSWVD7BTyg0ic7M4Pff6Avf+xIadYWjoZudPHyoVbVGQfJCRpezrZp5hWi9Vxy9U//z5j1/oyo43Lb4/VgigE= Received: by 10.54.81.2 with SMTP id e2mr1159184wrb; Thu, 28 Apr 2005 08:29:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.3.79 with HTTP; Thu, 28 Apr 2005 08:29:28 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Thu, 28 Apr 2005 10:29:28 -0500 From: Michael Lovitt To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <055d01c54bdb$eb4eacd0$3000a8c0@marco> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline References: <055d01c54bdb$eb4eacd0$3000a8c0@marco> Subject: Re: Dell Optiplex GX280 X-BeenThere: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Michael Lovitt List-Id: General discussion of FreeBSD hardware List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 28 Apr 2005 15:29:29 -0000 Yes, I bought a GX280 a few weeks ago and installed 5.3 on it. It's running with no problems. SATA hard drive, network card, USB devices, and video card all detected automatically. (I have the small form factor model with the 915G Express chipset and GMA900 integrated graphics card.) I ran into one hitch during install, where my USB keyboard wasn't immediately detected (there are no PS/2 slots, so USB is the only choice). But it's a known problem and the fix is easy. See this page: http://www.freebsd.org/releases/5.3R/errata.html Here's the relevant bit: ---- (31 Oct 2004, updated on 5 Nov 2004) For FreeBSD/i386 and FreeBSD/amd64, when installing FreeBSD 5.3 using an USB keyboard the keyboard will stop working once the kernel boots, because a PS/2 keyboard is always considered to be attached. As a workaround, select ``Escape to loader prompt'' in the boot loader menu and enter the following lines at the prompt: set hint.atkbd.0.flags=3D"0x1" boot Note that if you use the boot floppies, this is set by default. After the installation, add the following line to /boot/loader.conf: hint.atkbd.0.flags=3D"0x1" ---- Good luck. Michael On 4/28/05, Marco Gon=E7alves wrote: > Hi list, >=20 > Does anyone has experience with FreeBSD with it? > Im thinking in running 5 stable will it detect properly the hardware > (primary concerns are sata disk and network card) ? >=20 > Thanks in advance >=20 > Marco Gon=E7alves > Analista-Programador > WayNext >=20 > [w] www.waynext.com > [@] marco.goncalves@waynext.com > [t] (+351) 21 424 0002 > Taguspark, N.C. 238, Oeiras, Portugal >=20 > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-hardware > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-hardware-unsubscribe@freebsd.or= g" > From owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Apr 28 18:02:32 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9F33A16A4CE; Thu, 28 Apr 2005 18:02:32 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtp1.linkline.com (smtp1.linkline.com [66.59.235.27]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 77CBF43D49; Thu, 28 Apr 2005 18:02:32 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from sclements@linkline.com) Received: from [127.0.0.1] (host-66-59-225-129.lcinet.net [66.59.225.129]) by smtp1.linkline.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 222719CE12; Thu, 28 Apr 2005 11:02:30 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <42712534.5050504@linkline.com> Date: Thu, 28 Apr 2005 11:02:28 -0700 From: Samuel Clements User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (Windows/20041206) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: noackjr@alumni.rice.edu References: <427021F9.1010704@linkline.com> <42702812.1080705@alumni.rice.edu> In-Reply-To: <42702812.1080705@alumni.rice.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: steven.glogger@ch.easynet.net cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org cc: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Subject: Re: SATA RAID 1 controllers for Intel board X-BeenThere: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion of FreeBSD hardware List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 28 Apr 2005 18:02:32 -0000 > Please do not top post. Apologies - I'll try to be more diligent about that. > I was gonna say just define the array beforehand and use the latest 6.x > snapshot ISO (http://www.freebsd.org/snapshots/), but it looks like ATA > mkIII didn't make it into the tree until 2 weeks after the last > snapshot. Until the next snapshot is built it looks like you're stuck > using the procedure Samuel described. You could also create your own install media from -CURRENT, but thats a tad more involved, but it will yield you a bootable media that you can use to install directly onto the RAID from. -Sam From owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Apr 28 18:03:51 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A270B16A4F3 for ; Thu, 28 Apr 2005 18:03:51 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtp05.mrf.mail.rcn.net (smtp05.mrf.mail.rcn.net [207.172.4.64]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0E29143D1F for ; Thu, 28 Apr 2005 18:03:51 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jm3@erols.com) Received: from 66-44-55-55.s309.tnt1.lnhva.md.dialup.rcn.com (HELO d600.erols.com) (66.44.55.55) by smtp05.mrf.mail.rcn.net with ESMTP; 28 Apr 2005 14:03:49 -0400 Message-Id: <6.2.1.2.2.20050428135915.028cea58@pop.rcn.com> X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 6.2.1.2 Date: Thu, 28 Apr 2005 14:00:40 -0700 To: Marco =?iso-8859-1?Q?Gon=E7alves?= , From: John Mealey In-Reply-To: <055d01c54bdb$eb4eacd0$3000a8c0@marco> References: <055d01c54bdb$eb4eacd0$3000a8c0@marco> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: Re: Dell Optiplex GX280 X-BeenThere: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion of FreeBSD hardware List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 28 Apr 2005 18:03:51 -0000 Marco, I put FreeBSD on a GX270 yesterday, and it works fine. Not sure about SATA= =20 disk through, as mine were ATA. Nic should be a broadcom and get detected. John At 03:20 AM 4/28/2005, Marco Gon=E7alves wrote: >Hi list, > >Does anyone has experience with FreeBSD with it? >Im thinking in running 5 stable will it detect properly the hardware >(primary concerns are sata disk and network card) ? > >Thanks in advance > >Marco Gon=E7alves >Analista-Programador >WayNext > >[w] www.waynext.com >[@] marco.goncalves@waynext.com >[t] (+351) 21 424 0002 >Taguspark, N.C. 238, Oeiras, Portugal > > >_______________________________________________ >freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org mailing list >http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-hardware >To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-hardware-unsubscribe@freebsd.org"