From owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 16 03:10:03 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 53F0D16A4CE for ; Sun, 16 Jan 2005 03:10:03 +0000 (GMT) Received: from hotmail.com (bay15-f35.bay15.hotmail.com [65.54.185.35]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 33AED43D1F for ; Sun, 16 Jan 2005 03:10:03 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from street_chaman@hotmail.com) Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Sat, 15 Jan 2005 19:10:02 -0800 Message-ID: Received: from 82.252.44.138 by by15fd.bay15.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Sun, 16 Jan 2005 03:09:34 GMT X-Originating-IP: [82.252.44.138] X-Originating-Email: [street_chaman@hotmail.com] X-Sender: street_chaman@hotmail.com From: "Street Chaman" To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2005 03:09:34 +0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed X-OriginalArrivalTime: 16 Jan 2005 03:10:02.0702 (UTC) FILETIME=[DEDEFEE0:01C4FB78] Subject: Hardware Programming X-BeenThere: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Gathering place for new users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2005 03:10:03 -0000 hi everyone, I need low level access to some hardware devices (kbd, sound, display) in an assembly soft; so I'd like to know were I can find all supported ioctl_syscall parameters for each device ? Furthermore, if someone knows good (more complete than developpers-handbook) bsd - assembly doc/sources, it would help me a lot. Thanks a lot _________________________________________________________________ MSN Messenger : discutez en direct avec vos amis ! http://www.msn.fr/msger/default.asp From owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 16 04:18:27 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D436B16A4CF for ; Sun, 16 Jan 2005 04:18:27 +0000 (GMT) Received: from sccimhc91.asp.att.net (sccimhc91.asp.att.net [63.240.76.165]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7BB5343D1D for ; Sun, 16 Jan 2005 04:18:27 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from freebsd@nbritton.org) Received: from [192.168.1.10] (12-223-129-46.client.insightbb.com[12.223.129.46]) by sccimhc91.asp.att.net (sccimhc91) with ESMTP id <20050116041826i9100bphp9e>; Sun, 16 Jan 2005 04:18:26 +0000 Message-ID: <41E9EB0D.5010008@nbritton.org> Date: Sat, 15 Jan 2005 22:18:21 -0600 From: Nikolas Britton User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (X11/20041230) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Street Chaman References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Hardware Programming X-BeenThere: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Gathering place for new users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2005 04:18:28 -0000 Street Chaman wrote: > hi everyone, > > I need low level access to some hardware devices (kbd, sound, display) > in an assembly soft; so I'd like to know were I can find all supported > ioctl_syscall parameters for each device ? > Furthermore, if someone knows good (more complete than > developpers-handbook) bsd - assembly doc/sources, it would help me a lot. > > Thanks a lot > > You want developer docs?, here you go: The Design and Implementation of the FreeBSD Operating System Authors: Marshall Kirk McKusick, George V. Neville-Neil Hardcover: 720 pages Publisher: Addison-Wesley (August 2, 2004) ISBN: 0201702452 The Design and Implementation of the 4.4 BSD Operating System Authors: Marshall Kirk McKusick, Keith Bostic, Michael J. Karels, John S. Quarterman Hardcover: 608 pages Publisher: Addison-Wesley (April 30, 1996) ISBN: 0201549794 also I'd scribe to this list: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org From owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 16 08:10:17 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DC2BD16A4CE; Sun, 16 Jan 2005 08:10:17 +0000 (GMT) Received: from nezlok.unixathome.org (nezlok.unixathome.org [66.154.97.250]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BCCFA43D1F; Sun, 16 Jan 2005 08:10:17 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from dan@nezlok.unixathome.org) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by nezlok.unixathome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F090D558F; Sun, 16 Jan 2005 00:10:13 -0800 (PST) Received: from nezlok.unixathome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (nezlok.unixathome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 73313-09; Sun, 16 Jan 2005 00:10:05 -0800 (PST) Received: by nezlok.unixathome.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 4D2B0557D; Sun, 16 Jan 2005 00:10:03 -0800 (PST) From: Dan Langille To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-Id: <20050116081003.4D2B0557D@nezlok.unixathome.org> Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2005 00:10:03 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at unixathome.org Subject: The FreeBSD Diary: 2004-12-26 - 2005-01-15 X-BeenThere: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Gathering place for new users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2005 08:10:18 -0000 The FreeBSD Diary contains a large number of practical examples and how-to guides. 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Before you post a question here it might be a good idea to first search the mailing list archives and/or The FreeBSD Diary . -- Dan Langille BSDCan - http://www.BSDCan.org/ - BSD Conference From owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 16 21:04:03 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7C76816A4CE for ; Sun, 16 Jan 2005 21:04:03 +0000 (GMT) Received: from lmail.bathnetworks.co.uk (likely.plus.com [84.92.24.252]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6F4EF43D46 for ; Sun, 16 Jan 2005 21:04:02 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from bsd@bathnetworks.com) Received: (qmail 13521 invoked by uid 510); 16 Jan 2005 21:05:05 +0000 Received: from 84.92.24.252 by lmail.bathnetworks.co.uk (envelope-from , uid 508) with qmail-scanner-1.24-st-qms (clamdscan: 0.80/645. spamassassin: 3.0.1. perlscan: 1.24-st-qms. Clear:RC:0(84.92.24.252):SA:0(0.2/5.0):. 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(bsd@bathnetworks.com@84.92.24.252) by lmail.bathnetworks.co.uk with SMTP; 16 Jan 2005 21:05:04 +0000 From: Robert Slade To: "freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org" Content-Type: text/plain Message-Id: <1105909504.13262.16.camel@lmail.bathnetworks.co.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Ximian Evolution 1.4.6 (1.4.6-2) Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2005 21:05:04 +0000 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Compaq PL5000 X-BeenThere: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Gathering place for new users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2005 21:04:03 -0000 Hi, I've have been running Fedora for a couple of months and wanted to move to a more stable OS and was recommended BSD. I have an old Proliant 5000 server (Quad Processors, 1GByte Memory, Raid array) that I have been using as a test system. I have just tried to install Free BSD 5.3 on it and ran into problems, If I allow the default at the 1st screen, the machine hangs at: pci2: on pcib2 trying the other options eg with acpi support, safe mode etc I get a kernal panic: cpu0 on motherboard make device: can't find device vt Fatal trap 12: page fault while in kernal mode Etc panic: page fault I note that during boot only 16Mbyte of memory is recognised. I had this problem with Fedora etc which lead to a kernal panic. I guess that this is the same problem as above. In that case I was able to correct this by adding mem=1008M as a kernal parameter during boot. I cannot see how to do that with Free BSD. Is this possible with Free BSD or am I barking up the wrong tree with this problem? Rob From owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 16 21:07:53 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3B6DD16A4CE for ; Sun, 16 Jan 2005 21:07:53 +0000 (GMT) Received: from service.sh.cvut.cz (service.sh.cvut.cz [147.32.127.214]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5DBCF43D2D for ; Sun, 16 Jan 2005 21:07:52 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from Lukas.Stanek@sh.cvut.cz) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by service.sh.cvut.cz (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1D65D1A344B for ; Sun, 16 Jan 2005 22:07:51 +0100 (CET) Received: from service.sh.cvut.cz ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (service [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 23657-07 for ; Sun, 16 Jan 2005 22:07:49 +0100 (CET) Received: from nightmare.sh.cvut.cz (unknown [IPv6:2001:718:2::501]) by service.sh.cvut.cz (Postfix) with ESMTP id BF0131A32F1 for ; Sun, 16 Jan 2005 22:07:49 +0100 (CET) Received: from [147.32.115.226] (delphinus.sh.cvut.cz [147.32.115.226]) by nightmare.sh.cvut.cz (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7CAD9180 for ; Sun, 16 Jan 2005 22:07:49 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <41EAD7A9.3000000@nightmare.sh.cvut.cz> Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2005 22:07:53 +0100 From: delphinus User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.7.5) Gecko/20050106 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org X-Enigmail-Version: 0.89.6.0 X-Enigmail-Supports: pgp-inline, pgp-mime Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at sh.cvut.cz Subject: Compile options X-BeenThere: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Gathering place for new users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2005 21:07:53 -0000 Hello, i am looking for something like USE flags in gentoo GNU/Linux distribution. in the USE variable are defined keywords which are mapped onto compile-options. my USE variable looks like this: $ cat /etc/make.conf |grep USE USE="X gtk gtk2 alsa opengl ssl gpg 3dnow mmx mmx2 tetex xv -gnome -qt -kde -arts -esd -apache2 -php -mysql -cups" so i compile programs with gtk support but without qt support... thx -- icq: 246278862 http://proxyblue.sh.cvut.cz/~delphinus http://selinux.sh.cvut.cz ()-().----. . \"/` ___ ;________.' ` ^^ ^^ From owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 16 22:08:50 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 019DC16A4CE for ; Sun, 16 Jan 2005 22:08:50 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mail.infinitebubble.com (pia140-70.pioneernet.net [66.114.140.70]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6616743D39 for ; Sun, 16 Jan 2005 22:08:49 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jason@infinitebubble.com) Received: from localhost (thor.infinitebubble.com [10.10.1.1]) by mail.infinitebubble.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 366B03435A; Sun, 16 Jan 2005 14:08:48 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail.infinitebubble.com ([10.10.1.3]) by localhost (thor.infinitebubble.com [10.10.1.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 64671-09; Sun, 16 Jan 2005 14:08:11 -0800 (PST) Received: from [192.168.1.1] (aurvandil.infinitebubble.com [192.168.1.1]) by mail.infinitebubble.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D13A633CE2; Sun, 16 Jan 2005 14:08:09 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <41EAE5C8.5000502@infinitebubble.com> Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2005 14:08:08 -0800 From: Jason Taylor User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 0.8 (X11/20041022) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Robert Slade References: <1105909504.13262.16.camel@lmail.bathnetworks.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <1105909504.13262.16.camel@lmail.bathnetworks.co.uk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at infinitebubble.com cc: "freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org" Subject: Re: Compaq PL5000 X-BeenThere: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Gathering place for new users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2005 22:08:50 -0000 Robert Slade wrote: > Hi, > > I've have been running Fedora for a couple of months and wanted to move > to a more stable OS and was recommended BSD. > > I have an old Proliant 5000 server (Quad Processors, 1GByte Memory, Raid > array) that I have been using as a test system. I have just tried to > install Free BSD 5.3 on it and ran into problems, > > If I allow the default at the 1st screen, the machine hangs at: > > pci2: on pcib2 > > trying the other options eg with acpi support, safe mode etc I get a > kernal panic: > > cpu0 on motherboard > make device: can't find device vt > > Fatal trap 12: page fault while in kernal mode > Etc > > panic: page fault > > I note that during boot only 16Mbyte of memory is recognised. I had this > problem with Fedora etc which lead to a kernal panic. I guess that this > is the same problem as above. In that case I was able to correct this by > adding mem=1008M as a kernal parameter during boot. I cannot see how to > do that with Free BSD. Is this possible with Free BSD or am I barking up > the wrong tree with this problem? > > Rob > Choose the "Escape to loader prompt" option, then: > set hw.physmem="1048576k" > boot Once you have a working install, add the following line to /boot/loader.conf: hw.physmem="1048576k" ...and now for the disclaimers... I'm no expert. Others may have better ideas and/or corrections to this. My calculation about how many k = 1G may be off. From owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 17 02:29:53 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1FEE216A4CE for ; Mon, 17 Jan 2005 02:29:53 +0000 (GMT) Received: from lakermmtao03.cox.net (lakermmtao03.cox.net [68.230.240.36]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7750243D2D for ; Mon, 17 Jan 2005 02:29:52 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from tedg@alum.mit.edu) Received: from [192.168.1.102] (really [68.228.142.51]) by lakermmtao03.cox.net (InterMail vM.6.01.04.00 201-2131-117-20041022) with ESMTP id <20050117022949.VKLD2250.lakermmtao03.cox.net@[192.168.1.102]> for ; Sun, 16 Jan 2005 21:29:49 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <20041121124010.P1330@april.chuckr.org> References: <6.2.0.14.2.20041121082609.00bec6b0@cheyenne.wixb.com> <20041121160307.3b5123ee@ariel.office.volker.de> <20041121124010.P1330@april.chuckr.org> Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2005 21:25:44 -0500 To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org From: Ted Goranson Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" Subject: Book recommendation (again) X-BeenThere: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Gathering place for new users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2005 02:29:53 -0000 I am a complete newbie, with only the most superficial (ie Fedora) experience. I have 5.3 and am stuck. I'd like to find a book that helps me with just a few things, but: for someone not a systems administrator who wants to set up a workstation. As an example of the level needed, where I'm stuck is I don't know how to configure X from the incredibly primitive default setup. I wish to install and configure Fluxbox and Fluxspace, set up Emacs with all sorts of goodies (got sufficient docs on that excepting using ports), and vnc (or similar) from OSX. The online handbook wasn't helpful for my first problem. Complete FreeBSD, Absolute BSD, and Design and Implementation seem targeted toward admins and server setups. Am I wrong? Best, Ted -- Ted Goranson Advanced Enterprise Research Office From owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 17 03:09:21 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 144E516A4E3 for ; Mon, 17 Jan 2005 03:09:21 +0000 (GMT) Received: from cmsout03.mbox.net (cmsout03.mbox.net [165.212.64.33]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CC3A543D54 for ; Mon, 17 Jan 2005 03:09:20 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from misnagid@usa.net) Received: from cmsout03.mbox.net (cmsout03.mbox.net [165.212.64.33]) by cmsout03.mbox.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id AA2BF8B; Mon, 17 Jan 2005 03:09:19 +0000 (GMT) Received: from uadvg130.cms.usa.net [165.212.11.130] by cmsout03.mbox.net via smtad (C8.MAIN.3.21U); Mon, 17 Jan 2005 03:09:19 GMT X-USANET-Source: 165.212.11.130 IN misnagid@usa.net uadvg130.cms.usa.net X-USANET-MsgId: XID825JaqDJT5543X03 Received: from 192.168.1.100 [68.41.5.167] by uadvg130.cms.usa.net (ASMTP/misnagid@usa.net) via mtad (C8.MAIN.3.21E) with ESMTP id 952JaqDJR0082M30; Mon, 17 Jan 2005 03:09:17 GMT X-USANET-Auth: 68.41.5.167 AUTH misnagid@usa.net 192.168.1.100 From: JerryN To: Ted Goranson In-Reply-To: References: <6.2.0.14.2.20041121082609.00bec6b0@cheyenne.wixb.com> <20041121160307.3b5123ee@ariel.office.volker.de> <20041121124010.P1330@april.chuckr.org> Content-Type: text/plain Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2005 22:09:05 -0500 Message-Id: <1105931346.5108.24.camel@localhost.localdomain> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.0.2 (2.0.2-3) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Z-USANET-MsgId: XID952JaqDJR0082X30 cc: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Book recommendation (again) X-BeenThere: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: misnagid@usa.net List-Id: Gathering place for new users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2005 03:09:21 -0000 Ted, I had similar problems. You have to read The FreeBSD Handbook http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/index.html carefully, especially Sections 5.3 through 5.7. And the other thing you MUST do is to just download and print the latest version on-line. The published book is already out of date. It went out of date as soon as it came out. Truly. Just download it and pretend it'd The Bible and you got it licked, I swear, no pun intended! Regarding books, I have yet to meet a FreeBSD book I haven't loved. And there's so many to choose from. This ain't no Debian Linux where you'll find just 3 all from the last century. The ones I liked the most from a newbie perspective were (1) FreeBSD Unleashed Second Edition by Urban and Tiemann (Sams) and the one you hated (2) The Complete FreeBSD 4th Edition. Was it 4th Edition you bought? Maybe you'll like (3) The Complete Reference FreeBSD 5.0 by Roderick Smith. I have them all. You can probably examine a chapter or two at Amazon. Or if you'd like, I can prolly fax to you a particular chapter out of any FreeBSD book. Just let me know. Maybe others will help regarding your other questions. Jerr On Sun, 2005-01-16 at 21:25 -0500, Ted Goranson wrote: > I am a complete newbie, with only the most superficial (ie Fedora) experience. > > I have 5.3 and am stuck. I'd like to find a book that helps me with > just a few things, but: for someone not a systems administrator who > wants to set up a workstation. > > As an example of the level needed, where I'm stuck is I don't know > how to configure X from the incredibly primitive default setup. > > I wish to install and configure Fluxbox and Fluxspace, set up Emacs > with all sorts of goodies (got sufficient docs on that excepting > using ports), and vnc (or similar) from OSX. > > The online handbook wasn't helpful for my first problem. Complete > FreeBSD, Absolute BSD, and Design and Implementation seem targeted > toward admins and server setups. Am I wrong? > > Best, Ted From owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 17 03:30:26 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ACF8216A4D0 for ; Mon, 17 Jan 2005 03:30:26 +0000 (GMT) Received: from blackwater.lemis.com (wantadilla.lemis.com [192.109.197.135]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F418143D1F for ; Mon, 17 Jan 2005 03:30:14 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from grog@lemis.com) Received: by blackwater.lemis.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id E37AC8566C; Mon, 17 Jan 2005 14:00:12 +1030 (CST) Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2005 14:00:12 +1030 From: Greg 'groggy' Lehey To: Ted Goranson Message-ID: <20050117033012.GR47362@wantadilla.lemis.com> References: <6.2.0.14.2.20041121082609.00bec6b0@cheyenne.wixb.com> <20041121160307.3b5123ee@ariel.office.volker.de> <20041121124010.P1330@april.chuckr.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="tV/+6PImfyFtriLg" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Organization: The FreeBSD Project Phone: +61-8-8388-8286 Fax: +61-8-8388-8725 Mobile: +61-418-838-708 WWW-Home-Page: http://www.FreeBSD.org/ X-PGP-Fingerprint: 9A1B 8202 BCCE B846 F92F 09AC 22E6 F290 507A 4223 cc: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Book recommendation (again) X-BeenThere: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Gathering place for new users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2005 03:30:26 -0000 --tV/+6PImfyFtriLg Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline On Sunday, 16 January 2005 at 21:25:44 -0500, Ted Goranson wrote: > > The online handbook wasn't helpful for my first problem. Complete > FreeBSD, Absolute BSD, and Design and Implementation seem targeted > toward admins and server setups. Am I wrong? I certainly wouldn't put it like that. Large parts of CFBSD address desktop setups. Obviously with a name like that, it needs to address servers too. And in all likelihood you'll find yourself running servers sooner than you think. > As an example of the level needed, where I'm stuck is I don't know > how to configure X from the incredibly primitive default setup. That's in there. Design and Implementation is a very different book. It doesn't do server setup: it's for kernel software developers. A good book, but presumably not what you're looking for. Greg -- See complete headers for address and phone numbers. --tV/+6PImfyFtriLg Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.6 (FreeBSD) iD4DBQFB6zFEIubykFB6QiMRAjSSAKChbT5anDvj5zzNKSGQZCmmwPQMVACSA62H J/If7uMa5eY0YmxTWEr4HQ== =ZcDP -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --tV/+6PImfyFtriLg-- From owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 17 03:45:35 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1C70316A4CE; Mon, 17 Jan 2005 03:45:35 +0000 (GMT) Received: from cmsout02.mbox.net (cmsout02.mbox.net [165.212.64.32]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E55F743D31; Mon, 17 Jan 2005 03:45:34 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from misnagid@usa.net) Received: from cmsout02.mbox.net (cmsout02.mbox.net [165.212.64.32]) by cmsout02.mbox.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id F22C94C865; Mon, 17 Jan 2005 03:45:33 +0000 (GMT) Received: from uadvg130.cms.usa.net [165.212.11.130] by cmsout02.mbox.net via smtad (C8.MAIN.3.21U); Mon, 17 Jan 2005 03:45:33 GMT X-USANET-Source: 165.212.11.130 IN misnagid@usa.net uadvg130.cms.usa.net X-USANET-MsgId: XID621JaqDtI1526X02 Received: from 192.168.1.100 [68.41.5.167] by uadvg130.cms.usa.net (ASMTP/misnagid@usa.net) via mtad (C8.MAIN.3.21E) with ESMTP id 571JaqDtf0473M30; Mon, 17 Jan 2005 03:45:31 GMT X-USANET-Auth: 68.41.5.167 AUTH misnagid@usa.net 192.168.1.100 From: JerryN To: Greg 'groggy' Lehey In-Reply-To: <20050117033012.GR47362@wantadilla.lemis.com> References: <6.2.0.14.2.20041121082609.00bec6b0@cheyenne.wixb.com> <20041121160307.3b5123ee@ariel.office.volker.de> <20041121124010.P1330@april.chuckr.org> <20050117033012.GR47362@wantadilla.lemis.com> Content-Type: text/plain Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2005 22:45:30 -0500 Message-Id: <1105933531.5108.31.camel@localhost.localdomain> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.0.2 (2.0.2-3) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Z-USANET-MsgId: XID571JaqDtf0473X30 cc: Ted Goranson cc: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Book recommendation (again) X-BeenThere: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: misnagid@usa.net List-Id: Gathering place for new users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2005 03:45:35 -0000 I don't really understand. The On Line Handbook really does explain it all as far as Configuring X.org for the desktop. On Mon, 2005-01-17 at 14:00 +1030, Greg 'groggy' Lehey wrote: > On Sunday, 16 January 2005 at 21:25:44 -0500, Ted Goranson wrote: > > > > The online handbook wasn't helpful for my first problem. Complete > > FreeBSD, Absolute BSD, and Design and Implementation seem targeted > > toward admins and server setups. Am I wrong? > > I certainly wouldn't put it like that. Large parts of CFBSD address > desktop setups. Obviously with a name like that, it needs to address > servers too. And in all likelihood you'll find yourself running > servers sooner than you think. > > > As an example of the level needed, where I'm stuck is I don't know > > how to configure X from the incredibly primitive default setup. > > That's in there. > > Design and Implementation is a very different book. It doesn't do > server setup: it's for kernel software developers. A good book, but > presumably not what you're looking for. > > Greg > -- > See complete headers for address and phone numbers. From owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 17 07:25:43 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D26B816A4CE for ; Mon, 17 Jan 2005 07:25:43 +0000 (GMT) Received: from WAO-DMZ-2.alcoa.com.au (wao-dmz-2.alcoa.com.au [203.42.81.66]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1F25F43D49 for ; Mon, 17 Jan 2005 07:25:42 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from Kym.Murray@alcoa.com.au) Received: from AUABGN-MXI30.aua.alcoa.com (auabgn-mxi30.aua.alcoa.com) by WAO-DMZ-2.alcoa.com.au for ; Mon, 17 Jan 2005 15:25:55 +0800 Received: from AUABGN-MXU31.aua.alcoa.com ([10.111.29.12]) by AUABGN-MXI30.aua.alcoa.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.0); Mon, 17 Jan 2005 15:25:39 +0800 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----_=_NextPart_001_01C4FC65.BE54324E" X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5.7226.0 Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2005 15:25:38 +0800 Message-ID: <3F09B351C788284DB26CC03431B861F201E15310@AUABGN-MXU31.aua.alcoa.com> X-MS-Has-Attach: yes X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Index: AcT8Zb4Juvto+XYsTnGjX2XW2zu2Aw== From: "Murray, Kym (CSC at Alcoa)" To: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 17 Jan 2005 07:25:39.0047 (UTC) FILETIME=[BE754770:01C4FC65] X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.1 Subject: X-BeenThere: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Gathering place for new users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2005 07:25:44 -0000 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C4FC65.BE54324E Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > Kym Murray Network Specialist (West) > CSC for ALCOA World Alumina of Australia >=20 > Ph 61 (0)8 9316 5160 mb 61 (0)401 694 009 > Fx 61 (0)8 9316 5692 kym.murray@alcoa.com.au >=20 >=20 >=20 <>=20 ------_=_NextPart_001_01C4FC65.BE54324E-- From owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 17 08:18:48 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 68CCD16A4CE for ; Mon, 17 Jan 2005 08:18:48 +0000 (GMT) Received: from vfemail.net (miwi2dsl-a234.wi.tds.net [216.170.248.235]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B13C943D31 for ; Mon, 17 Jan 2005 08:18:47 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from lute@vfemail.net) Received: (qmail 35227 invoked by uid 85); 17 Jan 2005 08:18:46 -0000 Received: from lute@vfemail.net by mail.vfemail.net by uid 0 with qmail-scanner-1.16 (clamscan: 0.75.1. spamassassin: 2.63. Clear:. Processed in 1.077698 secs); 17 Jan 2005 08:18:46 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO agnes.myhome.net) (lute@vfemail.net@63.229.187.130) by miwi2dsl-a234.wi.tds.net with SMTP; 17 Jan 2005 08:18:45 -0000 Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2005 02:18:44 -0600 From: Lute Mullenix To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20050117021844.492f6ce0@agnes.myhome.net> In-Reply-To: <41EAD7A9.3000000@nightmare.sh.cvut.cz> References: <41EAD7A9.3000000@nightmare.sh.cvut.cz> X-Mailer: Sylpheed-Claws 0.9.13 (GTK+ 1.2.10; i386-portbld-freebsd5.3) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Compile options X-BeenThere: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Gathering place for new users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2005 08:18:48 -0000 Sorry, this is FreeBSD not Linux. However there is a good IRC channel you can check out on freenode.net, #lbo good people there. -- Lute It's OK to be different FreeBSD 5.3 RELEASE From owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 17 08:26:12 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DA72D16A4CE for ; Mon, 17 Jan 2005 08:26:12 +0000 (GMT) Received: from vfemail.net (miwi2dsl-a234.wi.tds.net [216.170.248.235]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4023A43D2F for ; Mon, 17 Jan 2005 08:26:12 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from lute@vfemail.net) Received: (qmail 38765 invoked by uid 85); 17 Jan 2005 08:26:11 -0000 Received: from lute@vfemail.net by mail.vfemail.net by uid 0 with qmail-scanner-1.16 (clamscan: 0.75.1. spamassassin: 2.63. Clear:. Processed in 1.026324 secs); 17 Jan 2005 08:26:11 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO agnes.myhome.net) (lute@vfemail.net@63.229.187.130) by miwi2dsl-a234.wi.tds.net with SMTP; 17 Jan 2005 08:26:10 -0000 Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2005 02:26:09 -0600 From: Lute Mullenix To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20050117022609.3130a979@agnes.myhome.net> In-Reply-To: References: <6.2.0.14.2.20041121082609.00bec6b0@cheyenne.wixb.com> <20041121160307.3b5123ee@ariel.office.volker.de> <20041121124010.P1330@april.chuckr.org> X-Mailer: Sylpheed-Claws 0.9.13 (GTK+ 1.2.10; i386-portbld-freebsd5.3) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Book recommendation (again) X-BeenThere: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Gathering place for new users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2005 08:26:13 -0000 On Sun, 16 Jan 2005 21:25:44 -0500 Ted Goranson insisted: > I am a complete newbie, with only the most superficial (ie Fedora) > experience. > > I have 5.3 and am stuck. I'd like to find a book that helps me with > just a few things, but: for someone not a systems administrator who > wants to set up a workstation. > > As an example of the level needed, where I'm stuck is I don't know > how to configure X from the incredibly primitive default setup. > > I wish to install and configure Fluxbox and Fluxspace, set up Emacs > with all sorts of goodies (got sufficient docs on that excepting > using ports), and vnc (or similar) from OSX. > > The online handbook wasn't helpful for my first problem. Complete > FreeBSD, Absolute BSD, and Design and Implementation seem targeted > toward admins and server setups. Am I wrong? > > Best, Ted I noticed in another reply that you have been steered to one of the best resources to setting up X on FreeBSD. As far as books go, my favorite is FreeBSD An Open Source Operating System For Your Personal Computer. By Annelise Anderson. This is the book that actually got me using FreeBSD and I have not used anything else since then. I have a couple others but this book and the Handbook are all I have needed to keep me up and running. Well and a little help from online groups. Good luck and have fun. -- Lute It's OK to be different FreeBSD 5.3 RELEASE From owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 17 09:34:44 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AC30516A4CE for ; Mon, 17 Jan 2005 09:34:44 +0000 (GMT) Received: from Mario.WcktKlwn.Com (c-24-9-20-168.client.comcast.net [24.9.20.168]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 3D7FB43D1D for ; Mon, 17 Jan 2005 09:34:44 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from wcktklwn@gmail.com) Received: (qmail 508 invoked from network); 17 Jan 2005 09:34:43 -0000 Received: from robert.local.wcktklwn.com (HELO ?127.0.0.1?) (10.1.1.19) by mario.local.wcktklwn.com with SMTP; 17 Jan 2005 09:34:43 -0000 Message-ID: <41EB86BD.4020802@gmail.com> Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2005 02:34:53 -0700 From: Robert User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (Windows/20041206) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: ethernet PCMCIA card: D-link DFE-670TXD X-BeenThere: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Gathering place for new users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2005 09:34:44 -0000 Has anyone else noticed a problem using this card with FreeBSD 5.3? I am trying to run a net install of FreeBSD 5.3. It goes through the network card setup, but once it goes to connect to the net to start the download of all the packages it just goes back to the mirror list. If I tell it to connect through a proxy server it works fine.From the same machine I can install a net install of Linux (but I like how well FreeBSD runs on the machine). could it be because it is using the wrong module for the card? -Robert From owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 17 10:14:58 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E503B16A4CE for ; Mon, 17 Jan 2005 10:14:58 +0000 (GMT) Received: from asclepius.uwa.edu.au (asclepius3.uwa.edu.au [130.95.128.60]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AB6B643D46 for ; Mon, 17 Jan 2005 10:14:57 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from zanchey@mussel.ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au) Received: from asclepius.kas (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by asclepius.uwa.edu.au (Postfix) with SMTP id 043E0184A15 for ; Mon, 17 Jan 2005 18:14:56 +0800 (WST) Received: from asclepius (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by asclepius.prekas (Postfix) with SMTP id E99FB184D6A for ; Mon, 17 Jan 2005 18:14:55 +0800 (WST) X-UWA-Client-IP: 130.95.13.9 (UWA) Received: from mooneye.ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au (mooneye.ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au [130.95.13.9]) by asclepius.input (Postfix) with ESMTP id CFD5A184D63 for ; Mon, 17 Jan 2005 18:14:55 +0800 (WST) Received: by mooneye.ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au (Postfix, from userid 801) id 5214117F53; Mon, 17 Jan 2005 18:14:55 +0800 (WST) Received: from mussel.ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au (mussel.ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au [130.95.13.18]) by mooneye.ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au (Postfix) with ESMTP id ED1B317E0B; Mon, 17 Jan 2005 18:14:54 +0800 (WST) Received: from zanchey (helo=localhost) by mussel.ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au with local-esmtp (Exim 3.36 #1 (Debian)) id 1CqTuQ-0002Bn-00; Mon, 17 Jan 2005 18:14:54 +0800 Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2005 18:14:54 +0800 (WST) From: David Adam To: Lute Mullenix In-Reply-To: <20050117021844.492f6ce0@agnes.myhome.net> Message-ID: References: <41EAD7A9.3000000@nightmare.sh.cvut.cz> <20050117021844.492f6ce0@agnes.myhome.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: David Adam X-SpamTest-Info: Profile: Formal (192/041231) X-SpamTest-Info: Profile: Detect Hard [UCS 290904] X-SpamTest-Info: Profile: SysLog X-SpamTest-Info: Profile: Marking Spam - Subject (UCS) [02-08-04] X-SpamTest-Status: Not detected X-SpamTest-Version: SMTP-Filter Version 2.0.0 [0125], KAS/Release cc: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Compile options X-BeenThere: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Gathering place for new users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2005 10:14:59 -0000 "Hello, i am looking for something like USE flags in gentoo GNU/Linux distribution. in the USE variable are defined keywords which are mapped onto compile-options." Lute: I don't think he means that he's looking for USE flags in Gentoo. I read the paragraph as "I would like Gentoo-style USE flags or their equivalents." Delphinus: Having said that, I'm not familiar enough with the ports collection to really know of anything like this. One thing you might like to look at is /usr/local/etc/pkgtools.conf which can be copied and edited from /usr/local/etc/pkgtools.conf.sample (from memory). As documented in http://www.onlamp.com/pub/a/bsd/2003/09/18/FreeBSD_Basics.html you can set various make options for ports every time you compile them. I guess you *could* add MAKE_ARGS = { '*' => 'WITH_QT=1 WITH_GTK=0 etc etc', } to /usr/local/etc/pkgtools.conf, but that's almost guaranteed not to work in all cases. You're better off examining each port individually, setting the make options in pkgtools.conf, and then installing with portinstall/ upgrading using portupgrade. No worries, then, David Adam zanchey@ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au From owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 17 10:29:35 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2263E16A4CF for ; Mon, 17 Jan 2005 10:29:35 +0000 (GMT) Received: from asclepius.uwa.edu.au (asclepius3.uwa.edu.au [130.95.128.60]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A364B43D3F for ; Mon, 17 Jan 2005 10:29:34 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from zanchey@mussel.ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au) Received: from asclepius.kas (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by asclepius.uwa.edu.au (Postfix) with SMTP id 9E284184D60 for ; Mon, 17 Jan 2005 18:29:33 +0800 (WST) Received: from asclepius (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by asclepius.prekas (Postfix) with SMTP id 9AEAD184D27 for ; Mon, 17 Jan 2005 18:29:33 +0800 (WST) X-UWA-Client-IP: 130.95.13.9 (UWA) Received: from mooneye.ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au (mooneye.ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au [130.95.13.9]) by asclepius.input (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8F518184C64 for ; Mon, 17 Jan 2005 18:29:33 +0800 (WST) Received: by mooneye.ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au (Postfix, from userid 801) id 1BF5E17F53; Mon, 17 Jan 2005 18:29:33 +0800 (WST) Received: from mussel.ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au (mussel.ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au [130.95.13.18]) by mooneye.ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au (Postfix) with ESMTP id B266E17E0B; Mon, 17 Jan 2005 18:29:32 +0800 (WST) Received: from zanchey (helo=localhost) by mussel.ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au with local-esmtp (Exim 3.36 #1 (Debian)) id 1CqU8a-0000by-00; Mon, 17 Jan 2005 18:29:32 +0800 Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2005 18:29:32 +0800 (WST) From: David Adam To: Lute Mullenix In-Reply-To: Message-ID: References: <41EAD7A9.3000000@nightmare.sh.cvut.cz> <20050117021844.492f6ce0@agnes.myhome.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: David Adam X-SpamTest-Info: Profile: Formal (192/041231) X-SpamTest-Info: Profile: Detect Hard [UCS 290904] X-SpamTest-Info: Profile: SysLog X-SpamTest-Info: Profile: Marking Spam - Subject (UCS) [02-08-04] X-SpamTest-Status: Not detected X-SpamTest-Version: SMTP-Filter Version 2.0.0 [0125], KAS/Release cc: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Compile options X-BeenThere: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Gathering place for new users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2005 10:29:35 -0000 Whoops. You will also want to examine the flags in /etc/make.conf ... $ man 5 make.conf or http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/man.cgi?query=make.conf ... particularly CFLAGS and CXXFLAGS. Cheers, David Adam zanchey@ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au From owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 17 14:29:03 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7634B16A4CE for ; Mon, 17 Jan 2005 14:29:03 +0000 (GMT) Received: from hotmail.com (bay21-f8.bay21.hotmail.com [65.54.233.97]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1894543D39 for ; Mon, 17 Jan 2005 14:29:03 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from freemybsd@hotmail.com) Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Mon, 17 Jan 2005 06:29:02 -0800 Message-ID: Received: from 145.48.10.235 by by21fd.bay21.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Mon, 17 Jan 2005 14:28:34 GMT X-Originating-IP: [145.48.10.235] X-Originating-Email: [freemybsd@hotmail.com] X-Sender: freemybsd@hotmail.com In-Reply-To: <6e01203b0501131013ecc835a@mail.gmail.com> From: "free bsd" To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2005 14:28:34 +0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed X-OriginalArrivalTime: 17 Jan 2005 14:29:02.0244 (UTC) FILETIME=[E3F18640:01C4FCA0] Subject: Re: Enabling 2nd NIC for router function on FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Gathering place for new users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2005 14:29:03 -0000 >From: Tyler Gee >Reply-To: Tyler Gee >To: freebsd >CC: free bsd , freebsd@nbritton.org, >freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org >Subject: Re: Enabling 2nd NIC for router function on FreeBSD >Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2005 11:13:12 -0700 > >I was going to ask if you have verified that the NIC does in fact work. > >In moving slots, try moving the working NIC to the slot that had the >not-working NIC. If the card is supported (and it obviously is since >you are using one already) my feeling would be that it is either a bad >NIC or a bad slot. > >-wtgee > > >On Thu, 13 Jan 2005 12:08:51 -0600 (CST), freebsd > wrote: > > > > > > On Thu, 13 Jan 2005, free bsd wrote: > > > > > >free bsd wrote: > > > > > > > >>Hi, > > > >> > > > >>I'm seaching how to configure my FreeBSD-PXE boot server so, that i >can > > > >>use it as a zebra router. > > > >> > > > >>My configuration: > > > >> > > > >>PC104 > > > >>- 1 intel NIC (works as fxp0) > > > >>- 2 Realtec RTL8019AS NIC's (only 1 will show up as ed0) > > > >> > > > >>So the problem is: Only 1 (one) of my realtec network card's works. > > > >> > > > >>Configuration at this moment (but tryed many others like ed only in >stead > > > >>of ed0 etc.) > > > >> > > > >># ISA Ethernet NICs. > > > >># 'device ed' requires 'device miibus' > > > >>device ed0 at isa? port 0x280 irq 10 iomem 0xd8000 > > > >> > > > >>If you require more info to answer please ask! Were stuck up here! > > > >> > > > >> > > > >Have you tried this?: > > > >device ed0 at isa? port 0x280 irq 10 iomem 0xd8000 > > > >device ed1 at isa? port foo irq foo iomem foo > > > > > > > >Have you played with the PnP OS mode in the BIOS? > > > >Have you manually tried to configure the cards (using the config boot >disk > > > >to change the pnp resouces it uses)? > > > > > > > > > > Yes, we tryed all of this kind... nothing seems to work... maybe we >are > > > forgetting something? > > > > > > > Then I don't know, I've never used the ed device and I haven't use ISA >for > > years. send this to the freebsd-questions mailing list. what version of > > FreeBSD are you using (uname -a) and send them a copy of dmesg too. did > > you try moving it to a diffrent slot? > It's working perfect in other OS systems... 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See http://antispam.yahoo.com/domainkeys DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; b=jHF/0wdFleyzyX/lU1n3UmNqyJQbQB8lEB/kiLjYQh5I9g+HTbsSthn4tCzD4qQXZFtjFxJ/JiyelOcbUbCdLXmNacfhmu4SIjpgsxiRfmJqCAXK0WEIl4T7ZrihFdf537RTrFYBFOpQiv5KlIJMEryzHLjWgokJTYk63xT3i/A= ; Message-ID: <20050117204352.30392.qmail@web41511.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [12.8.2.98] by web41511.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Mon, 17 Jan 2005 12:43:52 PST Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2005 12:43:52 -0800 (PST) From: Dominic Caffey To: Newbies FreeBSD MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Subject: X.org config question - SVGA output to HDTV - no complaints in log but no function either... X-BeenThere: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Gathering place for new users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2005 20:43:53 -0000 Dear FreeBSD-Newbies, I'm trying to get my Nvidia GeForce4 MX 4000 based video card to work with X in outputting to my HDTV. I can run the configurator fine and the confugator and X.org logs mentioned @ http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/x-config.html show no problems but when I try to start X I don't get any output. Any suggestions/ideas. Output to the HDTV in text mode works fine and it works in graphical mode with MS-Win98 but I haven't had any luck with graphical output to the HDTV with X using X.org. Do you think I'd have an easier time getting this to work with XFree86 or am I likely to have the same issues as with Xorg? The HDTV is a 51" diag, 4/3 aspect ratio Apex model GBHD5109. I'd really like to get this working with X via either Xorg or XFree86 because it's fun to show off FreeBSD in grand style. I'm using the Intel build of v 5.3 Release. Thanks in advance for any help that comes my way. Dom ===== +------------------------------ | Dominic Caffey | Email: dcaffey_fl@yahoo.com +------------------------------ __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? The all-new My Yahoo! - What will yours do? http://my.yahoo.com From owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 17 20:59:10 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7F6AE16A4CE for ; Mon, 17 Jan 2005 20:59:10 +0000 (GMT) Received: from web41523.mail.yahoo.com (web41523.mail.yahoo.com [66.218.94.130]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 3E82743D2F for ; Mon, 17 Jan 2005 20:59:10 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from dcaffey_fl@yahoo.com) Received: (qmail 71281 invoked by uid 60001); 17 Jan 2005 20:59:10 -0000 Message-ID: <20050117205910.71279.qmail@web41523.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [12.8.2.98] by web41523.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Mon, 17 Jan 2005 12:59:10 PST Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2005 12:59:10 -0800 (PST) From: Dominic Caffey To: Newbies FreeBSD MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Subject: Re: X.org config question - SVGA output to HDTV - no complaints in log but no function either... X-BeenThere: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Gathering place for new users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2005 20:59:10 -0000 Dear FreeBSD-Newbies, Did a little digging at the Nvidia website and found the following: http://www.nvidia.com/object/freebsd_1.0-6113.html. Maybe it will be useful to someone else as well. Dom --- Dominic Caffey wrote: > Dear FreeBSD-Newbies, > > I'm trying to get my Nvidia GeForce4 MX > 4000 > based video card to work with X in outputting > to > my HDTV. I can run the configurator fine and > the > confugator and X.org logs mentioned @ > http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/x-config.html > show no problems but when I try to start X I > don't get any output. Any suggestions/ideas. > > Output to the HDTV in text mode works fine and > it > works in graphical mode with MS-Win98 but I > haven't had any luck with graphical output to > the > HDTV with X using X.org. > > Do you think I'd have an easier time getting > this > to work with XFree86 or am I likely to have the > same issues as with Xorg? > > The HDTV is a 51" diag, 4/3 aspect ratio Apex > model GBHD5109. > > I'd really like to get this working with X via > either Xorg or XFree86 because it's fun to show > off FreeBSD in grand style. > > I'm using the Intel build of v 5.3 Release. > Thanks in advance for any help that comes my > way. > > Dom > > > ===== > +------------------------------ > | Dominic Caffey > | Email: dcaffey_fl@yahoo.com > +------------------------------ > > > > __________________________________ > Do you Yahoo!? > The all-new My Yahoo! - What will yours do? > http://my.yahoo.com > ===== +------------------------------ | Dominic Caffey | Email: dcaffey_fl@yahoo.com +------------------------------ __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? 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Mail - Helps protect you from nasty viruses. http://promotions.yahoo.com/new_mail From owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 17 21:01:57 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9DA1E16A4CE for ; Mon, 17 Jan 2005 21:01:57 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mail.finnovative.net (h204-247-59-114.ncal.verio.net [204.247.59.114]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5DC4443D2F for ; Mon, 17 Jan 2005 21:01:57 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from linuxuser@finnovative.net) Received: from [192.168.1.121] ([204.247.59.114]) by mail.finnovative.net over TLS secured channel with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.211); Mon, 17 Jan 2005 13:01:56 -0800 Message-ID: <41EC2790.4090500@finnovative.net> Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2005 13:01:04 -0800 From: Joaquin Menchaca User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (Macintosh/20041206) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-OriginalArrivalTime: 17 Jan 2005 21:01:56.0958 (UTC) FILETIME=[C79167E0:01C4FCD7] Subject: HELP: how to enable telnet? X-BeenThere: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Gathering place for new users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2005 21:01:57 -0000 Hi, Just some questions about telnet. I just installed FreeBSD. I want to setup so that I can telnet into it and do some work on it (as it'll be the server for the house) Anyhow. Are these the steps? (1) enable inetd (2) enable telnet in inetd (3) start inetd process The handbook (4th edition) stated that inetd is disabled for security purposes? Why is that? What are the risks? Is there a way to restrict telnet access from certain IPs? Do I need xinetd? Does FreeBSD come with xinetd? How about IPSec? Is IPSec supported in FreeBSD? Could I put a IPSec for telnet port for a range of addresses? Docs on it? -- Joaquin Menchaca From owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 17 21:05:23 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5B49316A4CF for ; Mon, 17 Jan 2005 21:05:23 +0000 (GMT) Received: from wingfoot.org (caduceus.wingfoot.org [64.32.179.50]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1AC0343D4C for ; Mon, 17 Jan 2005 21:05:11 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ges@wingfoot.org) Received: from localhost (localhost.wingfoot.org [127.0.0.1]) by wingfoot.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7ED011F44A0; Mon, 17 Jan 2005 16:05:10 -0500 (EST) Received: from wingfoot.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (wingfoot.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 78437-10; Mon, 17 Jan 2005 16:05:09 -0500 (EST) Received: from [127.0.0.1] (unknown [64.32.179.50]) by wingfoot.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 386FC1F44B3; Mon, 17 Jan 2005 16:05:09 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <41EC2880.3070905@wingfoot.org> Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2005 16:05:04 -0500 From: Glenn Sieb User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.5) Gecko/20041206 Thunderbird/1.0 Mnenhy/0.6.0.104 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Joaquin Menchaca , freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org References: <41EC2790.4090500@finnovative.net> In-Reply-To: <41EC2790.4090500@finnovative.net> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.89.5.0 X-Enigmail-Supports: pgp-inline, pgp-mime Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at wingfoot.org Subject: Re: HELP: how to enable telnet? X-BeenThere: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Gathering place for new users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2005 21:05:23 -0000 Joaquin Menchaca said the following on 1/17/2005 4:01 PM: > Just some questions about telnet. I just installed FreeBSD. I want > to setup so that I can telnet into it and do some work on it (as it'll > be the server for the house) Telnet is a highly insecure solution. It has generally been replaced with ssh (Secure SHell). > How about IPSec? Is IPSec supported in FreeBSD? Could I put a IPSec > for telnet port for a range of addresses? Docs on it? Instead of pulling your hair out securing a program that's considered outdated, I'd suggest you look into ssh instead... Best, --Glenn -- "They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety." ~Benjamin Franklin, Historical Review of Pennsylvania, 1759 From owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 17 21:15:44 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CD27D16A4CE for ; Mon, 17 Jan 2005 21:15:44 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mail.finnovative.net (h204-247-59-114.ncal.verio.net [204.247.59.114]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9766543D2D for ; Mon, 17 Jan 2005 21:15:44 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from linuxuser@finnovative.net) Received: from [192.168.1.121] ([204.247.59.114]) by mail.finnovative.net over TLS secured channel with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.211); Mon, 17 Jan 2005 13:15:44 -0800 Message-ID: <41EC2AD4.4070204@finnovative.net> Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2005 13:15:00 -0800 From: Joaquin Menchaca User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (Macintosh/20041206) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org References: <6.2.0.14.2.20041121082609.00bec6b0@cheyenne.wixb.com> <20041121160307.3b5123ee@ariel.office.volker.de> <20041121124010.P1330@april.chuckr.org> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-OriginalArrivalTime: 17 Jan 2005 21:15:44.0486 (UTC) FILETIME=[B4D02860:01C4FCD9] Subject: Re: Book recommendation (again) X-BeenThere: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Gathering place for new users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2005 21:15:44 -0000 > I have 5.3 and am stuck. I'd like to find a book that helps me with just > a few things, but: for someone not a systems administrator who wants to > set up a workstation. I think in a sense, dealing with UNIX as far as setup/install, you wear the sys admin hat, like it or not. :-) > As an example of the level needed, where I'm stuck is I don't know how > to configure X from the incredibly primitive default setup. Yeah, I felt this too. The X is very primitive compared to things like Mandrake and SuSE Linux. However, as many have pointed out, it is good to learn the system. I would recommend delving thorugh howto linux docs on configuration of X. I myself reviewed the handbook, and found it quite nice, but still limited in helping me get off the ground. I now have generic twm and three xterms, and the mouse doesn't work. :-) > I wish to install and configure Fluxbox and Fluxspace, set up Emacs with > all sorts of goodies (got sufficient docs on that excepting using > ports), and vnc (or similar) from OSX. That sounds fun. Also here's a project that is damn skippy: http://www.software-facilities.com/x11-wm-software/skippy.php Also check out jedit for text editors. That's the new one I use besides vim. I found it when I was using Mac OS X, and now use it on all *nix platforms and well as windows ones. > The online handbook wasn't helpful for my first problem. Complete > FreeBSD, Absolute BSD, and Design and Implementation seem targeted > toward admins and server setups. Am I wrong? > > Best, Ted Ted, The book I started with is "The Complpete FreeBSD, Documentation from the Source" by Greg Lehey published by O'Reilly Community Press. As others have mentioned it old as soon as it was printed. However I like thumbing through a printed book. I refer to the online handbook for things that are different, such as xorg vs. xfree86 stuff. This book was very helpful in getting started. I have the whole system installed on a little VIA embedded system (VIA PD 10000) which uses only 80 watt power supply; I plan to use it as a router, and later add other services on it. From owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 17 21:22:11 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5B60E16A4CE for ; Mon, 17 Jan 2005 21:22:11 +0000 (GMT) Received: from post-23.mail.nl.demon.net (post-23.mail.nl.demon.net [194.159.73.193]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1382043D45 for ; Mon, 17 Jan 2005 21:22:11 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from albi@scii.nl) Received: from aseed.demon.nl ([82.161.136.218]:10074 helo=mail.aseed.antenna.nl) by post-23.mail.nl.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1CqeK5-0009sD-7y for freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org; Mon, 17 Jan 2005 21:22:05 +0000 Received: from http.aseed.antenna.nl (unknown [192.168.0.50]) by mail.aseed.antenna.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id C69C41A9A7 for ; Mon, 17 Jan 2005 22:21:35 +0100 (CET) Received: from [192.168.0.111] (82-197-198-30.dsl.cambrium.nl [82.197.198.30]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by http.aseed.antenna.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2F4CE3701F for ; Mon, 17 Jan 2005 22:21:54 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <41EC2C6D.9070302@scii.nl> Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2005 22:21:49 +0100 From: albi User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (X11/20041228) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org References: <41EC2790.4090500@finnovative.net> In-Reply-To: <41EC2790.4090500@finnovative.net> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.89.5.0 X-Enigmail-Supports: pgp-inline, pgp-mime Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: HELP: how to enable telnet? X-BeenThere: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Gathering place for new users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2005 21:22:11 -0000 Joaquin Menchaca wrote: > Just some questions about telnet. I just installed FreeBSD. I want to > setup so that I can telnet into it and do some work on it (as it'll be > the server for the house) you want ssh not telnet, ssh is included be default, and there's more in the /usr/ports/security/ if you really think you need telnet, then telnet-ssl is perhaps an option (by default telnet is sending username and password unencrypted) > Is there a way to restrict telnet access from certain IPs? Do I need > xinetd? Does FreeBSD come with xinetd? yes, it's in the ports-section (security) From owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 17 21:24:55 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 34D7616A4CE for ; Mon, 17 Jan 2005 21:24:55 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mail.finnovative.net (h204-247-59-114.ncal.verio.net [204.247.59.114]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 111E043D1D for ; Mon, 17 Jan 2005 21:24:55 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from linuxuser@finnovative.net) Received: from [192.168.1.121] ([204.247.59.114]) by mail.finnovative.net over TLS secured channel with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.211); Mon, 17 Jan 2005 13:24:54 -0800 Message-ID: <41EC2CFA.2020009@finnovative.net> Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2005 13:24:10 -0800 From: Joaquin Menchaca User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (Macintosh/20041206) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org References: <41EC2790.4090500@finnovative.net> <41EC2880.3070905@wingfoot.org> In-Reply-To: <41EC2880.3070905@wingfoot.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-OriginalArrivalTime: 17 Jan 2005 21:24:54.0975 (UTC) FILETIME=[FCEE1CF0:01C4FCDA] Subject: Re: HELP: how to enable telnet? X-BeenThere: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Gathering place for new users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2005 21:24:55 -0000 Glenn Sieb wrote: > Joaquin Menchaca said the following on 1/17/2005 4:01 PM: > >> Just some questions about telnet. I just installed FreeBSD. I want >> to setup so that I can telnet into it and do some work on it (as it'll >> be the server for the house) > > > Telnet is a highly insecure solution. It has generally been replaced > with ssh (Secure SHell). Hi. Then how can I get SSH working? I can use this. My target client platform now is Mac OS X, so interoperability between FreeBSD and Mac OS X is smoother. However, later I want to use Windows XP/2K3. They have decent ssh client support through tools like putty, but I don't know any good sshd solution on Windows. Windows can secure insecure applications through through IPSec. This might be similar to kerberorized tools in Solaris and stunnel for others. Eventionally, I want to play with them all, feret out which ones are painful, which ones are the best, and what ones work between platforms (linux vs. solaris vs. freebsd vs macos vs windows). :-> One complaint I've heard with SSH though is that bad stuff can still get through a firewall, such as a downloading of a known trojan/virus, can cannot get stripped out. Whereas, SSL could potentially get stipped out. Anyways, I'm far from that point yet. I just need some sort of access into the box. I'm behind a firewall. -- joaquin From owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 17 22:39:42 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7B85116A4CE for ; Mon, 17 Jan 2005 22:39:42 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtp805.mail.sc5.yahoo.com (smtp805.mail.sc5.yahoo.com [66.163.168.184]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id E6CFD43D45 for ; Mon, 17 Jan 2005 22:39:41 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from krinklyfig@spymac.com) Received: from unknown (HELO smogmonster.com) (jtinnin@pacbell.net@67.116.52.197 with login) by smtp805.mail.sc5.yahoo.com with SMTP; 17 Jan 2005 22:39:41 -0000 From: Joshua Tinnin To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2005 14:39:40 -0800 User-Agent: KMail/1.7.2 References: <41EC2790.4090500@finnovative.net> <41EC2880.3070905@wingfoot.org> <41EC2CFA.2020009@finnovative.net> In-Reply-To: <41EC2CFA.2020009@finnovative.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200501171439.41285.krinklyfig@spymac.com> cc: Joaquin Menchaca Subject: Re: HELP: how to enable telnet? X-BeenThere: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Gathering place for new users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2005 22:39:42 -0000 On Monday 17 January 2005 01:24 pm, Joaquin Menchaca wrote: > Glenn Sieb wrote: > > Joaquin Menchaca said the following on 1/17/2005 4:01 PM: > >> Just some questions about telnet. I just installed FreeBSD. I > >> want to setup so that I can telnet into it and do some work on it > >> (as it'll be the server for the house) > > > > Telnet is a highly insecure solution. It has generally been > > replaced with ssh (Secure SHell). > > Hi. Then how can I get SSH working? I can use this. My target > client platform now is Mac OS X, so interoperability between FreeBSD > and Mac OS X is smoother. ssh is included in the base install. You can either enable it through your /etc/rc.conf: sshd_enable="YES" ... or you can start it by: /etc/rc.d/sshd start You should read up on this before you use it, as you want to decide what sort of authentication you need. The handbook has some documentation, as well as man ssh, man sshd, man ssh-agent, etc. > However, later I want to use Windows XP/2K3. They have decent ssh > client support through tools like putty, but I don't know any good > sshd solution on Windows. I don't know if installing a new OS is an option, but any home Windows OS pre-2000 is not secure in the first place (i.e., ME, 98, 95). I would not use any of them if security is a consideration. BTW, PuTTY works very well, as does installing Cygwin so you can use its tools (though that is a bit overkill, maybe). > Windows can secure insecure applications through through IPSec. This > might be similar to kerberorized tools in Solaris and stunnel for > others. Eventionally, I want to play with them all, feret out which > ones are painful, which ones are the best, and what ones work between > platforms (linux vs. solaris vs. freebsd vs macos vs windows). :-> > > One complaint I've heard with SSH though is that bad stuff can still > get through a firewall, such as a downloading of a known > trojan/virus, can cannot get stripped out. Whereas, SSL could > potentially get stipped out. Well, ssh assumes you know what you're doing, as it just provides a secure mechanism. You can tunnel it, though. > Anyways, I'm far from that point yet. I just need some sort of > access into the box. I'm behind a firewall. You should probably open up a port for ssh if you can, and if I were you I'd configure ssh to use a high-numbered port instead of the default - open up this same port on your firewall for tcp, preferably with stateful inspection. - jt From owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 17 22:48:32 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0E65E16A4CE for ; Mon, 17 Jan 2005 22:48:32 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtp811.mail.sc5.yahoo.com (smtp811.mail.sc5.yahoo.com [66.163.170.81]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id A866743D3F for ; Mon, 17 Jan 2005 22:48:31 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from krinklyfig@spymac.com) Received: from unknown (HELO smogmonster.com) (jtinnin@pacbell.net@67.116.52.197 with login) by smtp811.mail.sc5.yahoo.com with SMTP; 17 Jan 2005 22:48:31 -0000 From: Joshua Tinnin To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2005 14:48:30 -0800 User-Agent: KMail/1.7.2 References: <41EC2790.4090500@finnovative.net> <41EC2CFA.2020009@finnovative.net> <200501171439.41285.krinklyfig@spymac.com> In-Reply-To: <200501171439.41285.krinklyfig@spymac.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200501171448.30670.krinklyfig@spymac.com> cc: Joaquin Menchaca Subject: Re: HELP: how to enable telnet? X-BeenThere: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Gathering place for new users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2005 22:48:32 -0000 On Monday 17 January 2005 02:39 pm, Joshua Tinnin wrote: ... > > However, later I want to use Windows XP/2K3. They have decent ssh > > client support through tools like putty, but I don't know any good > > sshd solution on Windows. > > I don't know if installing a new OS is an option, but any home > Windows OS pre-2000 is not secure in the first place (i.e., ME, 98, > 95). I would not use any of them if security is a consideration. > > BTW, PuTTY works very well, as does installing Cygwin so you can use > its tools (though that is a bit overkill, maybe). Wait, I'm sorry, I think I misunderstood you. If you want to run a secure daemon on Windows instead of on *nix, I'm not sure, actually. You might be able to do this with Cygwin, but I've only used it to login to sshd on a *nix machine. - jt From owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 17 23:00:09 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 83BC916A4CE for ; Mon, 17 Jan 2005 23:00:09 +0000 (GMT) Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.202]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DE59343D3F for ; Mon, 17 Jan 2005 23:00:08 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from geekout@gmail.com) Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 58so140468wri for ; Mon, 17 Jan 2005 15:00:08 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:references; b=hVY2J6EfRhxoLWcgam8nMWbaRovYSO5otGuuGy9+d1A7LZUG8+DB8LrkpwZe5dr/70wgKlH07lG60APaknhnXfRkOXj9KxvPwgQN4lJzvltGKdqaPppbdJdZyCrOGcIxsT7DPDlyecrNSwcEUutNRLGY+ONzEvHEzHTheqIhHcY= Received: by 10.54.28.64 with SMTP id b64mr48315wrb; Mon, 17 Jan 2005 15:00:07 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.54.46.25 with HTTP; Mon, 17 Jan 2005 15:00:07 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <6e01203b050117150031cebe88@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2005 16:00:07 -0700 From: Tyler Gee To: Joshua Tinnin In-Reply-To: <200501171448.30670.krinklyfig@spymac.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit References: <41EC2790.4090500@finnovative.net> <41EC2CFA.2020009@finnovative.net> <200501171439.41285.krinklyfig@spymac.com> <200501171448.30670.krinklyfig@spymac.com> cc: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org cc: Joaquin Menchaca Subject: Re: HELP: how to enable telnet? X-BeenThere: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Tyler Gee List-Id: Gathering place for new users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2005 23:00:09 -0000 I run sshd through cygwin on my winxp box with no problems and as far as I could tell it is the only (or maybe just the best) way to do it. I used these directions: http://pigtail.net/LRP/printsrv/cygwin-sshd.html -wtgee On Mon, 17 Jan 2005 14:48:30 -0800, Joshua Tinnin wrote: > On Monday 17 January 2005 02:39 pm, Joshua Tinnin > wrote: > ... > > > However, later I want to use Windows XP/2K3. They have decent ssh > > > client support through tools like putty, but I don't know any good > > > sshd solution on Windows. > > > > I don't know if installing a new OS is an option, but any home > > Windows OS pre-2000 is not secure in the first place (i.e., ME, 98, > > 95). I would not use any of them if security is a consideration. > > > > BTW, PuTTY works very well, as does installing Cygwin so you can use > > its tools (though that is a bit overkill, maybe). > > Wait, I'm sorry, I think I misunderstood you. If you want to run a > secure daemon on Windows instead of on *nix, I'm not sure, actually. > You might be able to do this with Cygwin, but I've only used it to > login to sshd on a *nix machine. > > - jt > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-newbies > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-newbies-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 17 23:27:41 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2CE8F16A4CE for ; Mon, 17 Jan 2005 23:27:41 +0000 (GMT) Received: from alpha.it.teithe.gr (alpha.it.teithe.gr [195.251.240.232]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A299943D41 for ; Mon, 17 Jan 2005 23:27:37 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from pstal@it.teithe.gr) Received: from [192.168.69.242] (ppp62-ax.noc.teithe.gr [195.251.120.62]) by alpha.it.teithe.gr (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id j0HNREAC000803; Tue, 18 Jan 2005 01:27:15 +0200 (EET) Message-ID: <41EC49E8.2040703@it.teithe.gr> Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2005 01:27:36 +0200 From: P Stalidis User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 0.8 (Windows/20040913) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org References: <41EC2790.4090500@finnovative.net> <41EC2CFA.2020009@finnovative.net> <200501171439.41285.krinklyfig@spymac.com> <200501171448.30670.krinklyfig@spymac.com> In-Reply-To: <200501171448.30670.krinklyfig@spymac.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: Joshua Tinnin cc: Joaquin Menchaca Subject: Re: HELP: how to enable telnet? X-BeenThere: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Gathering place for new users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2005 23:27:41 -0000 I don't think he wants a deamon for his windows system, he wants a secureftp client... I'm using the client with ssh (www.ssh.com) and I don't really have any problems happy ftping :) Joshua Tinnin wrote: >On Monday 17 January 2005 02:39 pm, Joshua Tinnin > wrote: >... > > >>>However, later I want to use Windows XP/2K3. They have decent ssh >>>client support through tools like putty, but I don't know any good >>>sshd solution on Windows. >>> >>> >>I don't know if installing a new OS is an option, but any home >>Windows OS pre-2000 is not secure in the first place (i.e., ME, 98, >>95). I would not use any of them if security is a consideration. >> >>BTW, PuTTY works very well, as does installing Cygwin so you can use >>its tools (though that is a bit overkill, maybe). >> >> > >Wait, I'm sorry, I think I misunderstood you. If you want to run a >secure daemon on Windows instead of on *nix, I'm not sure, actually. >You might be able to do this with Cygwin, but I've only used it to >login to sshd on a *nix machine. > >- jt >_______________________________________________ >freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org mailing list >http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-newbies >To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-newbies-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > > From owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 17 23:29:50 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C58AC16A4CE for ; Mon, 17 Jan 2005 23:29:50 +0000 (GMT) Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.204]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DEAB843D1D for ; Mon, 17 Jan 2005 23:29:48 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from geekout@gmail.com) Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 58so143366wri for ; Mon, 17 Jan 2005 15:29:45 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:references; b=oGJcxufma4yEzwdDaTAbUnZrV2/D8IZoJldfDojVg6MXoUaJxWglNCXfR139/HH45pnYH2qtSUvpzs42Q+kmwFf0lcu1MOEA8w7hIYRUqkPrmHoFiy1mPOWYXwYly8WvNRG3Z0HZOHCustfQqiw+Rj55wvkJnKDdMO2byQYilEA= Received: by 10.54.28.64 with SMTP id b64mr61284wrb; Mon, 17 Jan 2005 15:29:45 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.54.46.25 with HTTP; Mon, 17 Jan 2005 15:29:45 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <6e01203b05011715297edfddde@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2005 16:29:45 -0700 From: Tyler Gee To: P Stalidis In-Reply-To: <41EC49E8.2040703@it.teithe.gr> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit References: <41EC2790.4090500@finnovative.net> <41EC2CFA.2020009@finnovative.net> <200501171439.41285.krinklyfig@spymac.com> <200501171448.30670.krinklyfig@spymac.com> <41EC49E8.2040703@it.teithe.gr> cc: Joshua Tinnin cc: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org cc: Joaquin Menchaca Subject: Re: HELP: how to enable telnet? X-BeenThere: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Tyler Gee List-Id: Gathering place for new users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2005 23:29:50 -0000 Oh, I must have been hearing the deamon voices in my head. :) I run Putty from Windows boxes and never have problems. Nice, simple, transportable executable. -wtgee On Tue, 18 Jan 2005 01:27:36 +0200, P Stalidis wrote: > I don't think he wants a deamon for his windows system, he wants a > secureftp client... > I'm using the client with ssh (www.ssh.com) and I don't really have any > problems > happy ftping :) > > > Joshua Tinnin wrote: > > >On Monday 17 January 2005 02:39 pm, Joshua Tinnin > > wrote: > >... > > > > > >>>However, later I want to use Windows XP/2K3. They have decent ssh > >>>client support through tools like putty, but I don't know any good > >>>sshd solution on Windows. > >>> > >>> > >>I don't know if installing a new OS is an option, but any home > >>Windows OS pre-2000 is not secure in the first place (i.e., ME, 98, > >>95). I would not use any of them if security is a consideration. > >> > >>BTW, PuTTY works very well, as does installing Cygwin so you can use > >>its tools (though that is a bit overkill, maybe). > >> > >> > > > >Wait, I'm sorry, I think I misunderstood you. If you want to run a > >secure daemon on Windows instead of on *nix, I'm not sure, actually. > >You might be able to do this with Cygwin, but I've only used it to > >login to sshd on a *nix machine. > > > >- jt > >_______________________________________________ > >freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org mailing list > >http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-newbies > >To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-newbies-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-newbies > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-newbies-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jan 18 00:51:45 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4E53E16A4CE for ; Tue, 18 Jan 2005 00:51:45 +0000 (GMT) Received: from fuse1.fusemail.net (smtp.fusemail.net [69.31.1.141]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1215D43D41 for ; Tue, 18 Jan 2005 00:51:45 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from brianjohn@fusemail.com) Received: from fusemail.com by fuse1.fusemail.net with asmtp (FuseMail extSMTP) id 1Cqhao-0007Yf-ES for freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org; Mon, 17 Jan 2005 18:51:34 -0600 Message-ID: <41EC5DA7.6000202@fusemail.com> Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2005 18:51:51 -0600 From: Brian John User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (X11/20050107) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: How to setup fstab for DVD, floppy and CD drives? X-BeenThere: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Gathering place for new users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2005 00:51:45 -0000 Hello, I have a DVD writer, a CD writer and a floppy drive in my PC. Since I don't know what file system that a media will use until I put it in the drive, how do I set it up in fstab? This is what it looks like right now for these devices: /dev/acd0 /cdrom auto rw,noauto 0 0 /dev/acd1 /cdrom1 auto rw,noauto 0 0 /dev/fd0 /floppy auto rw,noauto 0 0 The problem is, when I click on a device, it says: "mount: exec mount_auto not found in /sbin:/usr/sbin: No such file or directory Please check that the disk is entered correctly." How can I get this to work? Thanks /Brian From owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jan 18 02:43:30 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 33A4A16A4CE for ; Tue, 18 Jan 2005 02:43:30 +0000 (GMT) Received: from sccimhc91.asp.att.net (sccimhc91.asp.att.net [63.240.76.165]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BCBEF43D45 for ; Tue, 18 Jan 2005 02:43:27 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from freebsd@nbritton.org) Received: from [192.168.1.10] (12-223-129-46.client.insightbb.com[12.223.129.46]) by sccimhc91.asp.att.net (sccimhc91) with ESMTP id <20050118024326i9100bmngje>; Tue, 18 Jan 2005 02:43:27 +0000 Message-ID: <41EC77C9.4030202@nbritton.org> Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2005 20:43:21 -0600 From: Nikolas Britton User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (X11/20041230) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Joaquin Menchaca References: <41EC2790.4090500@finnovative.net> In-Reply-To: <41EC2790.4090500@finnovative.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Subject: Re: HELP: how to enable telnet? X-BeenThere: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Gathering place for new users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2005 02:43:30 -0000 Don't use telnet, use ssh!!! (Can't SU to Root on Telent): http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-newbies/2004-December/002802.html From owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jan 18 09:05:43 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2741C16A4CE for ; Tue, 18 Jan 2005 09:05:43 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mail.finnovative.net (h204-247-59-114.ncal.verio.net [204.247.59.114]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D3AB343D39 for ; Tue, 18 Jan 2005 09:05:42 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from linuxuser@finnovative.net) Received: from [192.168.1.121] ([204.247.59.114]) by mail.finnovative.net over TLS secured channel with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.211); Tue, 18 Jan 2005 01:05:42 -0800 Message-ID: <41ECD139.5000508@finnovative.net> Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2005 01:04:57 -0800 From: Joaquin Menchaca User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (Macintosh/20041206) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-OriginalArrivalTime: 18 Jan 2005 09:05:42.0748 (UTC) FILETIME=[E35B19C0:01C4FD3C] Subject: Q: Why is inetd disabled? X-BeenThere: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Gathering place for new users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2005 09:05:43 -0000 Hi. Reading 4th ed. printed handbook, it mentions that inetd was disabled for security purposes... Why? Just out of curiosity and trying to learn more... - joaquin From owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jan 18 09:10:56 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2D3D416A4CE for ; Tue, 18 Jan 2005 09:10:56 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mail.finnovative.net (h204-247-59-114.ncal.verio.net [204.247.59.114]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 05CFD43D1F for ; Tue, 18 Jan 2005 09:10:56 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from linuxuser@finnovative.net) Received: from [192.168.1.121] ([204.247.59.114]) by mail.finnovative.net over TLS secured channel with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.211); Tue, 18 Jan 2005 01:10:55 -0800 Message-ID: <41ECD273.2020406@finnovative.net> Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2005 01:10:11 -0800 From: Joaquin Menchaca User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (Macintosh/20041206) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org References: <41EC2790.4090500@finnovative.net> <41EC2CFA.2020009@finnovative.net> <200501171439.41285.krinklyfig@spymac.com> <200501171448.30670.krinklyfig@spymac.com> <6e01203b050117150031cebe88@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <6e01203b050117150031cebe88@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-OriginalArrivalTime: 18 Jan 2005 09:10:55.0936 (UTC) FILETIME=[9E07CC00:01C4FD3D] Subject: Re: HELP: how to enable telnet? X-BeenThere: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Gathering place for new users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2005 09:10:56 -0000 Tyler Gee wrote: > I run sshd through cygwin on my winxp box with no problems and as far > as I could tell it is the only (or maybe just the best) way to do it. > > I used these directions: http://pigtail.net/LRP/printsrv/cygwin-sshd.html > > -wtgee Sweet. Everyone's familar with win ssh clients, but not so much on sshd. I didn't know it was out. This is great! As I can have better interoperability between systems. I'm hoping to do rsync, ssh, sftp, and X through ssh for both home/work. For work, there'll be win to win file sync and also Solaris to Solaris. For home, I'll sync web pages between Mac/Win/FreeBSD. -- joaquin From owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jan 18 09:20:33 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B741816A4CE for ; Tue, 18 Jan 2005 09:20:33 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mail.finnovative.net (h204-247-59-114.ncal.verio.net [204.247.59.114]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8283343D4C for ; Tue, 18 Jan 2005 09:20:33 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from linuxuser@finnovative.net) Received: from [192.168.1.121] ([204.247.59.114]) by mail.finnovative.net over TLS secured channel with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.211); Tue, 18 Jan 2005 01:20:33 -0800 Message-ID: <41ECD4B4.1080106@finnovative.net> Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2005 01:19:48 -0800 From: Joaquin Menchaca User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (Macintosh/20041206) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org References: <41EC2790.4090500@finnovative.net> <41EC2CFA.2020009@finnovative.net> <200501171439.41285.krinklyfig@spymac.com> <200501171448.30670.krinklyfig@spymac.com> In-Reply-To: <200501171448.30670.krinklyfig@spymac.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-OriginalArrivalTime: 18 Jan 2005 09:20:33.0425 (UTC) FILETIME=[F63DA010:01C4FD3E] Subject: Re: HELP: how to enable telnet? X-BeenThere: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Gathering place for new users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2005 09:20:33 -0000 Joshua Tinnin wrote: > On Monday 17 January 2005 02:39 pm, Joshua Tinnin > wrote: > ... > >>>However, later I want to use Windows XP/2K3. They have decent ssh >>>client support through tools like putty, but I don't know any good >>>sshd solution on Windows. >> >>I don't know if installing a new OS is an option, but any home >>Windows OS pre-2000 is not secure in the first place (i.e., ME, 98, >>95). I would not use any of them if security is a consideration. >> >>BTW, PuTTY works very well, as does installing Cygwin so you can use >>its tools (though that is a bit overkill, maybe). > > > Wait, I'm sorry, I think I misunderstood you. If you want to run a > secure daemon on Windows instead of on *nix, I'm not sure, actually. > You might be able to do this with Cygwin, but I've only used it to > login to sshd on a *nix machine. > > - jt Oh. At home I have 11 computers: 2 sparcs, 2 macs, 8 pcs (mix of PIVs, AMDs, and C3s). They run *nix OSes (SuSE, Fedora, FreeBSD, Solaris, Mac OS X, Tenon) and of course Winows XP/2K3. I don't bother with older OSes, except for experimentation, e.g. learning how older OSes are better supported by UNIX than Windows for both performance and security. Between computers, I want to have interoperability between them (print, file share, X, remoting, rtools/telnet/ftp). For insecure solutions, I was interesting in playing with SSL, SSH, Kerberos, and IPSec. Also, looking into secure single sign-on facility. However, I am far from getting the experiments off the ground. I am just barely above getting the darn things to work, with drivers, wi-fi, bluetooth, etc. Many companies still uncooperative with open source communities, a matter I hope to help proactively. In the mean time, I'll get a handle on SSH facilities (as well as getting hardware to work). Oh, lastly, Cygwin is cool. I'm interested in both cygwin and non-cygwin (mingw) solutions for both client/server. I tried all the client tools, both putty and ssh, both work well. Never knew that sshd was working so well. :-> Wish there was a way though to redirect the Windows desktop as a X client ;-> -- joaquin From owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jan 18 09:28:10 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1BE1616A4CE for ; Tue, 18 Jan 2005 09:28:10 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mail.finnovative.net (h204-247-59-114.ncal.verio.net [204.247.59.114]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F3EF543D46 for ; Tue, 18 Jan 2005 09:28:09 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from linuxuser@finnovative.net) Received: from [192.168.1.121] ([204.247.59.114]) by mail.finnovative.net over TLS secured channel with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.211); Tue, 18 Jan 2005 01:28:09 -0800 Message-ID: <41ECD67C.1090600@finnovative.net> Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2005 01:27:24 -0800 From: Joaquin Menchaca User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (Macintosh/20041206) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-OriginalArrivalTime: 18 Jan 2005 09:28:09.0898 (UTC) FILETIME=[0651E0A0:01C4FD40] Subject: Q: mtree and md5digest... X-BeenThere: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Gathering place for new users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2005 09:28:10 -0000 Hi, I know this must work in FreeBSD, but on another system (forgive me...Mac OS X), a command like mtree -c -K cksum,md5digest,sha1digest,ripemd160digest -s 123456789 > mtree_bin will not work. How can I get md5digest and others to work? -- joaquin ps - note I learned about mtree through O'Reilly BSD hacks. I'm hoping to do a ad-hoc tripwire to monitor typical programs doing bad things typically. :-\ Later for FreeBSD, I might do some ad-hoc tripwire for security purposes. From owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jan 18 12:09:10 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 32FFE16A4CE for ; Tue, 18 Jan 2005 12:09:10 +0000 (GMT) Received: from sccimhc91.asp.att.net (sccimhc91.asp.att.net [63.240.76.165]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C9A4D43D39 for ; Tue, 18 Jan 2005 12:09:09 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from freebsd@nbritton.org) Received: from [192.168.1.10] (12-223-129-46.client.insightbb.com[12.223.129.46]) by sccimhc91.asp.att.net (sccimhc91) with ESMTP id <20050118120909i9100blq6qe>; Tue, 18 Jan 2005 12:09:09 +0000 Message-ID: <41ECFC5F.2090508@nbritton.org> Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2005 06:09:03 -0600 From: Nikolas Britton User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (X11/20041230) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Joaquin Menchaca References: <41EC2790.4090500@finnovative.net> <41EC2CFA.2020009@finnovative.net> <200501171439.41285.krinklyfig@spymac.com> <200501171448.30670.krinklyfig@spymac.com> <41ECD4B4.1080106@finnovative.net> In-Reply-To: <41ECD4B4.1080106@finnovative.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Subject: Re: HELP: how to enable telnet? X-BeenThere: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Gathering place for new users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2005 12:09:10 -0000 Joaquin Menchaca wrote: > Joshua Tinnin wrote: > >> On Monday 17 January 2005 02:39 pm, Joshua Tinnin >> wrote: >> ... >> >>>> However, later I want to use Windows XP/2K3. They have decent ssh >>>> client support through tools like putty, but I don't know any good >>>> sshd solution on Windows. >>> >>> >>> I don't know if installing a new OS is an option, but any home >>> Windows OS pre-2000 is not secure in the first place (i.e., ME, 98, >>> 95). I would not use any of them if security is a consideration. >>> >>> BTW, PuTTY works very well, as does installing Cygwin so you can use >>> its tools (though that is a bit overkill, maybe). >> >> >> >> Wait, I'm sorry, I think I misunderstood you. If you want to run a >> secure daemon on Windows instead of on *nix, I'm not sure, actually. >> You might be able to do this with Cygwin, but I've only used it to >> login to sshd on a *nix machine. >> >> - jt > > > Oh. At home I have 11 computers: 2 sparcs, 2 macs, 8 pcs (mix of > PIVs, AMDs, and C3s). They run *nix OSes (SuSE, Fedora, FreeBSD, > Solaris, Mac OS X, Tenon) and of course Winows XP/2K3. I don't bother > with older OSes, except for experimentation, e.g. learning how older > OSes are better supported by UNIX than Windows for both performance > and security. > > Between computers, I want to have interoperability between them > (print, file share, X, remoting, rtools/telnet/ftp). For insecure > solutions, I was interesting in playing with SSL, SSH, Kerberos, and > IPSec. Also, looking into secure single sign-on facility. > > However, I am far from getting the experiments off the ground. I am > just barely above getting the darn things to work, with drivers, > wi-fi, bluetooth, etc. Many companies still uncooperative with open > source communities, a matter I hope to help proactively. > > In the mean time, I'll get a handle on SSH facilities (as well as > getting hardware to work). > > Oh, lastly, Cygwin is cool. I'm interested in both cygwin and > non-cygwin (mingw) solutions for both client/server. I tried all the > client tools, both putty and ssh, both work well. Never knew that > sshd was working so well. :-> > > Wish there was a way though to redirect the Windows desktop as a X > client ;-> VNC (Virtual Network Computing): http://www.uk.research.att.com/archive/vnc/ http://www.realvnc.com/ http://www.tightvnc.com/ From owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jan 18 13:58:04 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BC84C16A4CE for ; Tue, 18 Jan 2005 13:58:04 +0000 (GMT) Received: from relay.rdsnet.ro (gimli.rdsnet.ro [193.231.236.70]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id A9E4643D5C for ; Tue, 18 Jan 2005 13:58:03 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from itetcu@people.tecnik93.com) Received: (qmail 8940 invoked from network); 18 Jan 2005 13:54:11 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO smtp.rdsnet.ro) (62.231.74.130) by smtp1-133.rdsnet.ro with SMTP; 18 Jan 2005 13:54:11 -0000 Received: (qmail 1839 invoked by uid 89); 18 Jan 2005 13:58:52 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO it.buh.tecnik93.com) (81.196.204.98) by 0 with SMTP; 18 Jan 2005 13:58:52 -0000 Received: from it.buh.tecnik93.com (localhost.buh.tecnik93.com [127.0.0.1]) by it.buh.tecnik93.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B5B6F116A1; Tue, 18 Jan 2005 15:57:26 +0200 (EET) Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2005 15:57:26 +0200 From: Ion-Mihai Tetcu To: Joaquin Menchaca Message-ID: <20050118155726.30d3f2b6@it.buh.tecnik93.com> In-Reply-To: <41ECD139.5000508@finnovative.net> References: <41ECD139.5000508@finnovative.net> X-Mailer: Sylpheed-Claws 0.9.13 (GTK+ 1.2.10; i386-portbld-freebsd5.3) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Q: Why is inetd disabled? X-BeenThere: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Gathering place for new users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2005 13:58:04 -0000 On Tue, 18 Jan 2005 01:04:57 -0800 Joaquin Menchaca wrote: > Hi. > > Reading 4th ed. printed handbook, it mentions that inetd was disabled > for security purposes... > > Why? Just out of curiosity and trying to learn more... By *default* it is disabled. That is because *you* want to tell the system what to run and what not and there is no point in running services that you don't need. -- IOnut Unregistered ;) FreeBSD "user" From owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jan 18 13:58:53 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7421416A4CE for ; Tue, 18 Jan 2005 13:58:53 +0000 (GMT) Received: from relay.rdsnet.ro (gimli.rdsnet.ro [193.231.236.70]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 7259A43D54 for ; Tue, 18 Jan 2005 13:58:52 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from itetcu@people.tecnik93.com) Received: (qmail 9199 invoked from network); 18 Jan 2005 13:54:59 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO smtp.rdsnet.ro) (62.231.74.130) by smtp1-133.rdsnet.ro with SMTP; 18 Jan 2005 13:54:59 -0000 Received: (qmail 2010 invoked by uid 89); 18 Jan 2005 13:59:41 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO it.buh.tecnik93.com) (81.196.204.98) by 0 with SMTP; 18 Jan 2005 13:59:41 -0000 Received: from it.buh.tecnik93.com (localhost.buh.tecnik93.com [127.0.0.1]) by it.buh.tecnik93.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E86D4116A4; Tue, 18 Jan 2005 15:58:28 +0200 (EET) Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2005 15:58:28 +0200 From: Ion-Mihai Tetcu To: Joaquin Menchaca Message-ID: <20050118155828.4714f082@it.buh.tecnik93.com> In-Reply-To: <41ECD67C.1090600@finnovative.net> References: <41ECD67C.1090600@finnovative.net> X-Mailer: Sylpheed-Claws 0.9.13 (GTK+ 1.2.10; i386-portbld-freebsd5.3) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Q: mtree and md5digest... X-BeenThere: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Gathering place for new users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2005 13:58:53 -0000 On Tue, 18 Jan 2005 01:27:24 -0800 Joaquin Menchaca wrote: > Hi, > > I know this must work in FreeBSD, but on another system (forgive > me...Mac OS X), a command like > > mtree -c -K cksum,md5digest,sha1digest,ripemd160digest -s 123456789 > > mtree_bin > > will not work. How can I get md5digest and others to work? man mtree on that system or ask on a OS X list. -- IOnut Unregistered ;) FreeBSD "user" From owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jan 18 14:00:05 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7727316A4CE for ; Tue, 18 Jan 2005 14:00:05 +0000 (GMT) Received: from relay.rdsnet.ro (gimli.rdsnet.ro [193.231.236.70]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 736FE43D46 for ; Tue, 18 Jan 2005 14:00:04 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from itetcu@people.tecnik93.com) Received: (qmail 9726 invoked from network); 18 Jan 2005 13:56:11 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO smtp.rdsnet.ro) (62.231.74.130) by smtp1-133.rdsnet.ro with SMTP; 18 Jan 2005 13:56:11 -0000 Received: (qmail 2386 invoked by uid 89); 18 Jan 2005 14:00:53 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO it.buh.tecnik93.com) (81.196.204.98) by 0 with SMTP; 18 Jan 2005 14:00:53 -0000 Received: from it.buh.tecnik93.com (localhost.buh.tecnik93.com [127.0.0.1]) by it.buh.tecnik93.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D7628116A2; Tue, 18 Jan 2005 15:59:40 +0200 (EET) Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2005 15:59:40 +0200 From: Ion-Mihai Tetcu To: Brian John Message-ID: <20050118155940.5f39742f@it.buh.tecnik93.com> In-Reply-To: <41EC5DA7.6000202@fusemail.com> References: <41EC5DA7.6000202@fusemail.com> X-Mailer: Sylpheed-Claws 0.9.13 (GTK+ 1.2.10; i386-portbld-freebsd5.3) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Subject: Re: How to setup fstab for DVD, floppy and CD drives? X-BeenThere: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Gathering place for new users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2005 14:00:05 -0000 On Mon, 17 Jan 2005 18:51:51 -0600 Brian John wrote: > Hello, > I have a DVD writer, a CD writer and a floppy drive in my PC. Since I > don't know what file system that a media will use until I put it in the > drive, how do I set it up in fstab? This is what it looks like right > now for these devices: > /dev/acd0 /cdrom auto rw,noauto 0 0 > /dev/acd1 /cdrom1 auto rw,noauto 0 0 > /dev/fd0 /floppy auto rw,noauto 0 0 > > The problem is, when I click on a device, it says: "mount: exec > mount_auto not found in /sbin:/usr/sbin: No such file or directory > Please check that the disk is entered correctly." > > How can I get this to work? Ask on question@ and provide the name of your window manager (KDE ?) -- IOnut Unregistered ;) FreeBSD "user" From owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jan 18 17:16:26 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EDB6816A4CE for ; Tue, 18 Jan 2005 17:16:26 +0000 (GMT) Received: from pluto.phpwebhosting.com (pluto.phpwebhosting.com [69.0.209.128]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 459BE43D3F for ; Tue, 18 Jan 2005 17:16:26 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from keith@barkinglizards.com) Received: (qmail 25454 invoked from network); 18 Jan 2005 17:16:22 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO Rand) (69.152.101.1) by pluto.phpwebhosting.com with SMTP; 18 Jan 2005 17:16:22 -0000 From: "Keith Bottner" To: "'Freebsd-Newbies@Freebsd. Org'" Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2005 11:14:21 -0600 Organization: Barking Lizards Technologies MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook, Build 11.0.6353 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 thread-index: AcT9gSW5YH9ecgkBQr+xchf8S5oZcQ== Message-Id: <20050118171626.459BE43D3F@mx1.FreeBSD.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1250" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.1 Subject: What is __BSD_VISIBLE for? X-BeenThere: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Gathering place for new users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2005 17:16:27 -0000 I have noticed that __BSD_VISIBLE is used through out the sys headers. What is this used to distinguish between? Anyone? Where is it set? Or where should it be set? Keith -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.300 / Virus Database: 265.7.0 - Release Date: 1/17/2005 From owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jan 18 18:45:27 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B274116A4CE for ; Tue, 18 Jan 2005 18:45:27 +0000 (GMT) Received: from sccimhc92.asp.att.net (sccimhc92.asp.att.net [63.240.76.166]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6C32143D2D for ; Tue, 18 Jan 2005 18:45:27 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from freebsd@nbritton.org) Received: from [192.168.1.10] (12-223-129-46.client.insightbb.com[12.223.129.46]) by sccimhc92.asp.att.net (sccimhc92) with ESMTP id <20050118184526i92000p25re>; Tue, 18 Jan 2005 18:45:26 +0000 Message-ID: <41ED5941.4000500@nbritton.org> Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2005 12:45:21 -0600 From: Nikolas Britton User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (X11/20041230) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Keith Bottner References: <20050118171626.459BE43D3F@mx1.FreeBSD.org> In-Reply-To: <20050118171626.459BE43D3F@mx1.FreeBSD.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1250; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: "'Freebsd-Newbies@Freebsd. Org'" Subject: Re: What is __BSD_VISIBLE for? X-BeenThere: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Gathering place for new users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2005 18:45:27 -0000 Keith Bottner wrote: >I have noticed that __BSD_VISIBLE is used through out the sys headers. What >is this used to distinguish between? Anyone? Where is it set? Or where >should it be set? > >Keith > > > hu? From owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jan 18 19:33:20 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 211BB16A4CE for ; Tue, 18 Jan 2005 19:33:20 +0000 (GMT) Received: from pluto.phpwebhosting.com (pluto.phpwebhosting.com [69.0.209.128]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 8E5F143D5C for ; Tue, 18 Jan 2005 19:33:19 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from keith@barkinglizards.com) Received: (qmail 8948 invoked from network); 18 Jan 2005 19:33:14 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO Rand) (69.152.101.1) by pluto.phpwebhosting.com with SMTP; 18 Jan 2005 19:33:14 -0000 From: "Keith Bottner" To: "'Nikolas Britton'" Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2005 13:31:16 -0600 Organization: Barking Lizards Technologies MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1250" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook, Build 11.0.6353 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 thread-index: AcT9jeLFzSbU2O6sSwumD0x9+Vc76wABjQLg In-Reply-To: <41ED5941.4000500@nbritton.org> Message-Id: <20050118193319.8E5F143D5C@mx1.FreeBSD.org> cc: "'Freebsd-Newbies@Freebsd. Org'" Subject: RE: What is __BSD_VISIBLE for? X-BeenThere: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Gathering place for new users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2005 19:33:20 -0000 __BSD_VISIBLE is throughout the system header files that are located at sys/sys, specifically I am looking at the msg.h file and the struct mymsg; however, I have noticed this in quite a few other places and I was hoping that someone out there would know what its use is? Keith -----Original Message----- From: owner-freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org [mailto:owner-freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org] On Behalf Of Nikolas Britton Sent: Tuesday, January 18, 2005 12:45 PM To: Keith Bottner Cc: 'Freebsd-Newbies@Freebsd. Org' Subject: Re: What is __BSD_VISIBLE for? Keith Bottner wrote: >I have noticed that __BSD_VISIBLE is used through out the sys headers. >What is this used to distinguish between? Anyone? Where is it set? Or >where should it be set? > >Keith > > > hu? _______________________________________________ freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-newbies To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-newbies-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.300 / Virus Database: 265.7.0 - Release Date: 1/17/2005 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.300 / Virus Database: 265.7.0 - Release Date: 1/17/2005 From owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jan 18 20:15:24 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 21B5E16A4CE for ; Tue, 18 Jan 2005 20:15:24 +0000 (GMT) Received: from ppsw-5.csi.cam.ac.uk (ppsw-5.csi.cam.ac.uk [131.111.8.135]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6B4F543D58 for ; Tue, 18 Jan 2005 20:15:23 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from sos22@cantab.net) Received: from hermes-1.csi.cam.ac.uk ([131.111.8.51]:47126 helo=archibold.nowhere) by ppsw-5.csi.cam.ac.uk (smtp.hermes.cam.ac.uk [131.111.8.155]:25) with smtp id 1Cqzl1-0004Fu-GK (Exim 4.44) (return-path ); Tue, 18 Jan 2005 20:15:19 +0000 Received: by archibold.nowhere (sSMTP sendmail emulation); Tue, 18 Jan 2005 20:15:18 +0000 Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2005 20:15:18 +0000 From: Steven Smith To: Keith Bottner Message-ID: <20050118201518.GA7786@archibold> References: <41ED5941.4000500@nbritton.org> <20050118193319.8E5F143D5C@mx1.FreeBSD.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="17pEHd4RhPHOinZp" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20050118193319.8E5F143D5C@mx1.FreeBSD.org> X-Cam-ScannerInfo: http://www.cam.ac.uk/cs/email/scanner/ X-Cam-AntiVirus: No virus found X-Cam-SpamDetails: Not scanned cc: 'Nikolas Britton' cc: "'Freebsd-Newbies@Freebsd. Org'" cc: sos22@srcf.ucam.org Subject: Re: What is __BSD_VISIBLE for? X-BeenThere: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Gathering place for new users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2005 20:15:24 -0000 --17pEHd4RhPHOinZp Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > __BSD_VISIBLE is throughout the system header files that are located at > sys/sys, specifically I am looking at the msg.h file and the struct mymsg; > however, I have noticed this in quite a few other places and I was hoping > that someone out there would know what its use is? There are a few features which are traditional for BSD systems, but whcih are incompatible with e.g. POSIX. These tend to be hidden behind #ifdef __BSD_VISIBLE, so that programs only see them if they want them. __BSD_VISIBLE is #define's automatically by sys/cdefs.h, but you can disable that with a special option to gcc (-traditional, I think). Steven. >=20 > Keith >=20 > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org > [mailto:owner-freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org] On Behalf Of Nikolas Britton > Sent: Tuesday, January 18, 2005 12:45 PM > To: Keith Bottner > Cc: 'Freebsd-Newbies@Freebsd. Org' > Subject: Re: What is __BSD_VISIBLE for? >=20 > Keith Bottner wrote: >=20 > >I have noticed that __BSD_VISIBLE is used through out the sys headers.= =20 > >What is this used to distinguish between? Anyone? Where is it set? Or=20 > >where should it be set? > >=20 > >Keith > > > > =20 > > > hu? > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-newbies > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-newbies-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" >=20 > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. > Version: 7.0.300 / Virus Database: 265.7.0 - Release Date: 1/17/2005 > =20 >=20 > --=20 > No virus found in this outgoing message. > Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. > Version: 7.0.300 / Virus Database: 265.7.0 - Release Date: 1/17/2005 > =20 >=20 > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-newbies > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-newbies-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" --=20 One day, I'm going to get an Alice-bot to answer all my email for me, and see how long it takes people to notice. --17pEHd4RhPHOinZp Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.6 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFB7W5WO4S8/gLNrjcRAvbZAJ4x2OnqK9NkdJDIwovKCEqsjGuHrgCfXdB4 Er5Gvn4ydhCTCyZ969DPGaE= =hVUz -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --17pEHd4RhPHOinZp-- From owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jan 18 20:22:04 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F008216A4CE for ; Tue, 18 Jan 2005 20:22:04 +0000 (GMT) Received: from nuumen.pair.com (nuumen.pair.com [209.68.1.119]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 8BA6543D46 for ; Tue, 18 Jan 2005 20:22:04 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from thuppi@nuumen.pair.com) Received: (qmail 97189 invoked by uid 55300); 18 Jan 2005 20:22:04 -0000 Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2005 15:22:04 -0500 (EST) From: Tom Huppi X-X-Sender: thuppi@nuumen.pair.com To: Joaquin Menchaca In-Reply-To: Message-ID: References: <41E7704E.3050901@finnovative.net> <41E77E68.5060406@finnovative.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII cc: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Subject: Re: HELP: video for VIA/S3G CLE266 X-BeenThere: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Gathering place for new users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2005 20:22:05 -0000 For the record... On Fri, 14 Jan 2005, Tom Huppi wrote: > > On Fri, 14 Jan 2005, Joaquin Menchaca wrote: > > Would I have to get the latest xorg + these drivers with some sort of > > package manager? How can I tell the current version of Xorg that I am > > running? Could I just compile these drivers? If so, how do I get them > > to work, and how do I get it into the system so that I can select them? > I just built and installed xorg from the ports collection to try > to get rid of all references to 'libc_r' which was crashing > certain applications on my 5.3 system (upgraded from 5.1 via > buildworld.) It was not too bad...just took a long time on my old > machine. I suggest (if using 'ports' rather than 'packages') that > one maybe does a 'cd ...x11/xorg make', then after it builds > sucessfully pkg_delete the XFree86 stuff, then go back and 'make > install'. This will allow normal use of the machine for the day > or so it takes to build xorg. This appears to be bad advice. I just tried it on my third machine and it seems that XOrg is perfectly happy with 'libX11' from the old XFree86 installation (with regard to satisfying it's dependencies.) > Since this wasn't the route I took I can't say conclusivly that > it would work, but I think it should be fine. As I say, *it wasn't*. Maybe with some other trickery it would be, but there is something to be said for keeping it simple. FWIW, I was able to use my machine for many hours (in an xwindows environment (with plenty of swapping!)) after pkg_delete'ing XFree86*...it's just that I couldn't open any new windows, and my browser crashed pretty quickly. I Just thought I should clear this up since at least one person (me!) gets a lot of info by searching google, and it's nice to see notes like this. Thanks, - Tom From owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jan 18 22:10:55 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EEF3B16A4CE for ; Tue, 18 Jan 2005 22:10:55 +0000 (GMT) Received: from ns1.tiadon.com (SMTP.tiadon.com [69.27.132.161]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 67BC943D39 for ; Tue, 18 Jan 2005 22:10:55 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from kdk@daleco.biz) Received: from [69.27.131.0] ([69.27.131.0]) by ns1.tiadon.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.211); Tue, 18 Jan 2005 16:11:08 -0600 Message-ID: <41ED8968.2080506@daleco.biz> Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2005 16:10:48 -0600 From: Kevin Kinsey User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.7.3) Gecko/20041210 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Joaquin Menchaca References: <41EC2790.4090500@finnovative.net> <41EC2CFA.2020009@finnovative.net> <200501171439.41285.krinklyfig@spymac.com> <200501171448.30670.krinklyfig@spymac.com> <41ECD4B4.1080106@finnovative.net> In-Reply-To: <41ECD4B4.1080106@finnovative.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-OriginalArrivalTime: 18 Jan 2005 22:11:10.0961 (UTC) FILETIME=[9DF5B610:01C4FDAA] cc: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Subject: Re: HELP: how to enable telnet? X-BeenThere: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Gathering place for new users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2005 22:10:56 -0000 Joaquin Menchaca wrote: > > Oh, lastly, Cygwin is cool. I'm interested in both cygwin and > non-cygwin (mingw) > solutions for both client/server. I tried all the client tools, both > putty and ssh, both > work well. Never knew that sshd was working so well. :-> > > Wish there was a way though to redirect the Windows desktop as a X > client ;-> > > -- joaquin Hmm, you've reminded me I have one more toy I need to learn to play with: [kadmin@archangel][/home/kadmin] # whereis rdesktop rdesktop: /usr/local/bin/rdesktop /usr/ports/net/rdesktop KDK From owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 19 06:03:00 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 16B9A16A4CE for ; Wed, 19 Jan 2005 06:03:00 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mail.finnovative.net (h204-247-59-114.ncal.verio.net [204.247.59.114]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C118143D53 for ; Wed, 19 Jan 2005 06:02:59 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from linuxuser@finnovative.net) Received: from [192.168.1.121] ([204.247.59.114]) by mail.finnovative.net over TLS secured channel with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.211); Tue, 18 Jan 2005 22:02:59 -0800 Message-ID: <41EDF7E5.8020104@finnovative.net> Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2005 22:02:13 -0800 From: Joaquin Menchaca User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (Macintosh/20041206) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org References: <41EC2790.4090500@finnovative.net> <41EC2CFA.2020009@finnovative.net> <200501171439.41285.krinklyfig@spymac.com> <200501171448.30670.krinklyfig@spymac.com> <41ECD4B4.1080106@finnovative.net> <41ED8968.2080506@daleco.biz> In-Reply-To: <41ED8968.2080506@daleco.biz> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-OriginalArrivalTime: 19 Jan 2005 06:02:59.0259 (UTC) FILETIME=[870530B0:01C4FDEC] Subject: Re: HELP: how to enable telnet? X-BeenThere: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Gathering place for new users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2005 06:03:00 -0000 Kevin Kinsey wrote: > Joaquin Menchaca wrote: > >> >> Oh, lastly, Cygwin is cool. I'm interested in both cygwin and >> non-cygwin (mingw) >> solutions for both client/server. I tried all the client tools, both >> putty and ssh, both >> work well. Never knew that sshd was working so well. :-> >> >> Wish there was a way though to redirect the Windows desktop as a X >> client ;-> >> >> -- joaquin > > > > Hmm, you've reminded me I have one more toy I need to learn to play with: > > [kadmin@archangel][/home/kadmin] > # whereis rdesktop > rdesktop: /usr/local/bin/rdesktop /usr/ports/net/rdesktop > > KDK I heard of this on Linux. Really good stuff. Now it would be cool to RDC into a Linux box and Mac box. :-) I'm trying Timbuktu with Mac OS X, but it is sloooow. :'( RDP is really slick. From owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 19 09:17:56 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7067B16A52D for ; Wed, 19 Jan 2005 09:17:55 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mail.bredband.st (mail.bredband.st [195.178.186.125]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 957DF43D55 for ; Wed, 19 Jan 2005 09:17:54 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from mattias.nordlund@bahnhofbredband.net) Received: from EXCH-03.bredband.bahnhof.se ([192.168.1.2]) by mail.bredband.st (SAVSMTP 3.0.0.44) with SMTP id M2005011910155213366 for ; Wed, 19 Jan 2005 10:15:52 +0100 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5.7226.0 Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2005 10:16:57 +0100 Message-ID: X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: Freebsd 5.3-stable natd multiple external ipadress Thread-Index: AcT+B6AsdsiM9HXES42kDbUhAi0anw== From: "Mattias Nordlund" To: Subject: Freebsd 5.3-stable natd multiple external ipadress X-BeenThere: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Gathering place for new users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2005 09:17:56 -0000 Hi, I have a problem . Freebsd 5.3 Stable Natd Ipfw external interface =3D fxp1 internal interface =3D fxp2 I have three external ipadress on fxp1 81.10.5.2 /29 81.10.5.3=20 81.10.5.4=20 On the fxp2 (internal interface) I have : 192.168.1.0/24 192.168.2.0/24 192.168.3.0/24 I need to route the packets from my internal net to the correct external ipadress. Something like: iptables -t nat -A POSTROUTING -s 192.168.1.0/24 -j SNAT --to 81.10.5.2 iptables -t nat -A POSTROUTING -s 192.168.2.0/24 -j SNAT --to 81.10.5.3 iptables -t nat -A POSTROUTING -s 192.168.3.0/24 -j SNAT --to 81.10.5.4 How can I do that with ipfw and nat ? Heeelp=20 Regards, Mattias=20 From owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 19 13:16:17 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 680D816A4CE for ; Wed, 19 Jan 2005 13:16:17 +0000 (GMT) Received: from hotmail.com (bay13-f14.bay13.hotmail.com [64.4.31.14]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 38A9B43D39 for ; Wed, 19 Jan 2005 13:16:17 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from yokean1@hotmail.com) Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Wed, 19 Jan 2005 05:16:15 -0800 Message-ID: Received: from 210.195.42.16 by by13fd.bay13.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Wed, 19 Jan 2005 13:15:47 GMT X-Originating-IP: [210.195.42.16] X-Originating-Email: [yokean1@hotmail.com] X-Sender: yokean1@hotmail.com From: "yoke an" To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2005 21:15:47 +0800 X-Priority: 1 Importance: High X-OriginalArrivalTime: 19 Jan 2005 13:16:15.0797 (UTC) FILETIME=[0E2A1650:01C4FE29] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format="flowed" X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.1 Subject: ICH5 + SATA + Seagate ST380013AS + FreeBSD v4.8? X-BeenThere: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Gathering place for new users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2005 13:16:17 -0000 Hi , I'm in the process of installing freebsd v4.8 on Tyan Transport GX21 (B2735G21S2) with Tiger i7501R S2735-8M motherboard, with Seagate SATA disks (Model: ST380013AS). I have problem with FreeBSD v4.8-Release that cannot detect my HDD. Is ICH5 support SATA mode from FreeBSD v4.8-Release? Where can I download ICH5 that support FreeBSD v4.8-Release and how's the steps on installing this. BTW, I cannot change the installation to FreeBSD v5.3 coz my application only support 4.8-Release. Cheers Ann _________________________________________________________________ [1]Find files on your PC instantly with the new MSN Toolbar Suite beta FREE! References 1. http://g.msn.com/8HMAENUS/2749??PS=47575 From owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 19 17:46:04 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D537A16A4CE for ; Wed, 19 Jan 2005 17:46:04 +0000 (GMT) Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.202]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 323FA43D49 for ; Wed, 19 Jan 2005 17:46:04 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from wcktklwn@gmail.com) Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 36so1059165wri for ; Wed, 19 Jan 2005 09:46:03 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=Zd4GPto6wR0hQQ+Uvmc4Iv1vkRGbRm9wwH2vBXusEspIsf5KRXgTQtuH95WWkA1JMLnAi0MDv7iSPLCdrZCF728J+5X+sB/zXevm9OJWTeNAH01cFztKhdVpAAaa46dLU9Sb3sFnmlVAYVgobtYB0t2I0px9/ZXQxdGF+hAahJg= Received: by 10.54.59.39 with SMTP id h39mr364007wra; Wed, 19 Jan 2005 09:45:59 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.54.59.22 with HTTP; Wed, 19 Jan 2005 09:45:56 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2005 10:45:56 -0700 From: Robert Pickett To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: DFE-670TXD X-BeenThere: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Robert Pickett List-Id: Gathering place for new users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2005 17:46:04 -0000 Does anyone else appear to have a problem with this network card? I am using the ED* module on it, and for some reason I can only get out to the net or onto the local LAN, but nothing can get into the machine, not even pings. The card is a PCMCIA 10/100 card. Any info would be helpfull. -Robert From owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 19 18:00:12 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D3CCF16A4CE for ; Wed, 19 Jan 2005 18:00:12 +0000 (GMT) Received: from ms05.mailstreet2003.net (MS05.mailstreet2003.net [63.251.155.133]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5424B43D45 for ; Wed, 19 Jan 2005 18:00:12 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from chris@sigd.net) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5.6944.0 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2005 13:01:07 -0500 Message-ID: <6FC9F9894A9F8C49A722CF9F2132FC2202F7AA92@ms05.mailstreet2003.net> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: DFE-670TXD Thread-Index: AcT+TuzJ/JnQKMssRruCXir+wGSIkwAAdWKw From: "Haulmark, Chris" To: "Robert Pickett" , Subject: RE: DFE-670TXD X-BeenThere: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Gathering place for new users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2005 18:00:13 -0000 Someone broke the silence:=20 > Does anyone else appear to have a problem with this network card? I am > using the ED* module on it, and for some reason I can only get out to > the net or onto the local LAN, but nothing can get into the machine, > not even pings. The card is a PCMCIA 10/100 card. Any info would be > helpfull.=20 Have you also tested the cable with a different network card (like other = computers or network devices) too? Chris > -Robert > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-newbies > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-newbies-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 19 20:16:26 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0A9FE16A4CE for ; Wed, 19 Jan 2005 20:16:26 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mail.bitfreak.org (mail.bitfreak.org [65.75.198.146]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C286E43D53 for ; Wed, 19 Jan 2005 20:16:25 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from dmp@bitfreak.org) Received: by mail.bitfreak.org (Postfix, from userid 10800) id 7020D19F2D; Wed, 19 Jan 2005 12:20:22 -0800 (PST) Received: from 209.152.48.185 (SquirrelMail authenticated user dmp); by webmail.bitfreak.org with HTTP; Wed, 19 Jan 2005 12:20:22 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <2195.209.152.48.185.1106166022.squirrel@209.152.48.185> In-Reply-To: References: Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2005 12:20:22 -0800 (PST) From: "Darren Pilgrim" To: "yoke an" User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.3a X-Mailer: SquirrelMail/1.4.3a MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 1 (Highest) Importance: High cc: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Subject: Re: ICH5 + SATA + Seagate ST380013AS + FreeBSD v4.8? X-BeenThere: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Gathering place for new users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2005 20:16:26 -0000 On Wed, January 19, 2005 5:15 am, yoke an said: > > I'm in the process of installing freebsd v4.8 on Tyan Transport GX21 > (B2735G21S2) with Tiger i7501R S2735-8M motherboard, with Seagate SATA > disks (Model: ST380013AS). > > I have problem with FreeBSD v4.8-Release that cannot detect my HDD. Is > ICH5 support SATA mode from FreeBSD v4.8-Release? Where can I download > ICH5 that support FreeBSD v4.8-Release and how's the steps on > installing this. > > BTW, I cannot change the installation to FreeBSD v5.3 coz my > application only support 4.8-Release. Moving to 5.x isn't necessary. ICH5 SATA is officially supported starting with 4.10. An application that works in 4.8 should work fine in 4.10. What is your application? From owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 19 20:53:09 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 67DF816A4CE for ; Wed, 19 Jan 2005 20:53:09 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mail.gmx.net (pop.gmx.de [213.165.64.20]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 8C6E043D41 for ; Wed, 19 Jan 2005 20:53:08 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from herbert.feutl@gmx.at) Received: (qmail invoked by alias); 19 Jan 2005 20:53:07 -0000 Received: from Eis1.oejab.at (EHLO [10.10.1.100]) (193.170.120.242) by mail.gmx.net (mp011) with SMTP; 19 Jan 2005 21:53:07 +0100 X-Authenticated: #19369275 Message-ID: <41EEC8B9.2070005@gmx.at> Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2005 21:53:13 +0100 From: Herbert Feutl User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (Windows/20041206) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Y-GMX-Trusted: 0 Subject: ports deinstall X-BeenThere: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Gathering place for new users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2005 20:53:09 -0000 hello! I am newbie on FreeBSD but I made my Libretto 100CT running FreeBSD 4.10. now for testing I installed a lot of ports. the hdd is really smal (2GB) now I want to deinstall ports und dependencies but what method is better. what method is better and when should I use this or the other. I found this possibilities for now: pkg_delete pkg_deinstall make deinstall cutleave thx herbert from austria From owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 19 21:03:06 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C63FD16A4CE for ; Wed, 19 Jan 2005 21:03:06 +0000 (GMT) Received: from Mario.WcktKlwn.Com (c-24-9-20-168.client.comcast.net [24.9.20.168]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 34E3043D2F for ; Wed, 19 Jan 2005 21:03:06 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from wcktklwn@gmail.com) Received: (qmail 8152 invoked from network); 19 Jan 2005 21:03:03 -0000 Received: from robert.local.wcktklwn.com (HELO ?127.0.0.1?) (10.1.1.19) by mario.local.wcktklwn.com with SMTP; 19 Jan 2005 21:03:03 -0000 Message-ID: <41EECB07.6030208@gmail.com> Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2005 14:03:03 -0700 From: Robert User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (Windows/20041206) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Haulmark, Chris" References: <6FC9F9894A9F8C49A722CF9F2132FC2202F7AA92@ms05.mailstreet2003.net> In-Reply-To: <6FC9F9894A9F8C49A722CF9F2132FC2202F7AA92@ms05.mailstreet2003.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.1 cc: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Subject: Re: DFE-670TXD X-BeenThere: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Gathering place for new users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2005 21:03:07 -0000 Yes I also tried 2 other cables, and I am using a different card that I just bought today that is working. cept I would like to see if I can get the other card working as well, in case I break the old one or perhaps decide to get another Laptop and put FreeBSD on it. -Robert Haulmark, Chris wrote: >Someone broke the silence: > > > >>Does anyone else appear to have a problem with this network card? I am >>using the ED* module on it, and for some reason I can only get out to >>the net or onto the local LAN, but nothing can get into the machine, >>not even pings. The card is a PCMCIA 10/100 card. Any info would be >>helpfull. >> >> > >Have you also tested the cable with a different network card (like other computers or network devices) too? > >Chris > > > >>-Robert >>_______________________________________________ >>freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org mailing list >>http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-newbies >>To unsubscribe, send any mail to >>"freebsd-newbies-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" >> >> > > > > > From owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 19 21:55:56 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 66F8116A4CE for ; Wed, 19 Jan 2005 21:55:56 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mail.finnovative.net (h204-247-59-114.ncal.verio.net [204.247.59.114]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 20D3043D39 for ; Wed, 19 Jan 2005 21:55:56 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from linuxuser@finnovative.net) Received: from [192.168.55.105] ([192.168.55.105]) by mail.finnovative.net over TLS secured channel with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.211); Wed, 19 Jan 2005 13:55:55 -0800 Message-ID: <41EED76B.7060606@finnovative.net> Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2005 13:55:55 -0800 From: Joaquin Menchaca User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (Windows/20041206) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-OriginalArrivalTime: 19 Jan 2005 21:55:55.0973 (UTC) FILETIME=[A6FF5F50:01C4FE71] Subject: This community is cool!! X-BeenThere: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Gathering place for new users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2005 21:55:56 -0000 Hey, Just to let you know. Though I am just starting out with FreeBSD, I am having a lot of fun. :-) This community is simply cool. I like the sense on security and some healthy paranoia. It is refreshing. I am really happy to dedicate a computer to the operation of FreeBSD (small VIA w/ morex case). I am now considering using the new Mac mini for FreeBSD fun as well. Just thought I would let everyone know... - regards, joaquin From owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 19 23:41:50 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B4EE716A4CE for ; Wed, 19 Jan 2005 23:41:50 +0000 (GMT) Received: from ns1.tiadon.com (SMTP.tiadon.com [69.27.132.161]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2EB2F43D45 for ; Wed, 19 Jan 2005 23:41:50 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from kdk@daleco.biz) Received: from [69.27.131.0] ([69.27.131.0]) by ns1.tiadon.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.211); Wed, 19 Jan 2005 17:41:44 -0600 Message-ID: <41EEF038.5090601@daleco.biz> Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2005 17:41:44 -0600 From: Kevin Kinsey User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.7.3) Gecko/20041210 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Joaquin Menchaca References: <41EED76B.7060606@finnovative.net> In-Reply-To: <41EED76B.7060606@finnovative.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-OriginalArrivalTime: 19 Jan 2005 23:41:45.0109 (UTC) FILETIME=[6F60A450:01C4FE80] cc: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Subject: Re: This community is cool!! X-BeenThere: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Gathering place for new users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2005 23:41:50 -0000 Joaquin Menchaca wrote: > Hey, > > Just to let you know. Though I am just starting out with FreeBSD, I > am having > a lot of fun. :-) This community is simply cool. I like the sense on > security and > some healthy paranoia. It is refreshing. > > I am really happy to dedicate a computer to the operation of FreeBSD > (small VIA w/ morex > case). I am now considering using the new Mac mini for FreeBSD fun as > well. > > Just thought I would let everyone know... > > - regards, > joaquin Now, there, community, is a post in line with the list's charter. Congrats, Joaquin! Someone should give you a medal! Now for a question (should it be posted here?) Where are we gonna direct posts like this if we take away newbies@? Advocacy? :-D Kevin Kinsey From owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jan 20 02:19:03 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6C19216A4CE for ; Thu, 20 Jan 2005 02:19:03 +0000 (GMT) Received: from hotmail.com (bay13-f18.bay13.hotmail.com [64.4.31.18]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 495E943D45 for ; Thu, 20 Jan 2005 02:19:03 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from yokean1@hotmail.com) Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Wed, 19 Jan 2005 18:19:02 -0800 Message-ID: Received: from 202.146.89.186 by by13fd.bay13.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Thu, 20 Jan 2005 02:18:01 GMT X-Originating-IP: [202.146.89.186] X-Originating-Email: [yokean1@hotmail.com] X-Sender: yokean1@hotmail.com In-Reply-To: <2195.209.152.48.185.1106166022.squirrel@209.152.48.185> From: "yoke an" To: dmp@bitfreak.org Date: Thu, 20 Jan 2005 10:18:01 +0800 X-Priority: 1 Importance: High X-OriginalArrivalTime: 20 Jan 2005 02:19:02.0726 (UTC) FILETIME=[68A2B660:01C4FE96] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format="flowed" X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.1 cc: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Subject: Re: ICH5 + SATA + Seagate ST380013AS + FreeBSD v4.8? X-BeenThere: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Gathering place for new users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 20 Jan 2005 02:19:03 -0000 >From: "Darren Pilgrim" >To: "yoke an" >CC: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org >Subject: Re: ICH5 + SATA + Seagate ST380013AS + FreeBSD v4.8? >Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2005 12:20:22 -0800 (PST) > >On Wed, January 19, 2005 5:15 am, yoke an said: > > > > I'm in the process of installing freebsd v4.8 on Tyan Transport GX21 > > (B2735G21S2) with Tiger i7501R S2735-8M motherboard, with Seagate SATA > > disks (Model: ST380013AS). > > > > I have problem with FreeBSD v4.8-Release that cannot detect my HDD. Is > > ICH5 support SATA mode from FreeBSD v4.8-Release? Where can I download > > ICH5 that support FreeBSD v4.8-Release and how's the steps on > > installing this. > > > > BTW, I cannot change the installation to FreeBSD v5.3 coz my > > application only support 4.8-Release. > >Moving to 5.x isn't necessary. ICH5 SATA is officially supported starting >with 4.10. An application that works in 4.8 should work fine in 4.10. >What is your application? My application is PureMessage Anti-Virus & Anti-Spam (Sophos). Sophos has tested well on the platform 4.8 only but not 4.10 coz this application is vry sensitive to the kernel version and it may crash the application itself. Any idea if I insist to use 4.8 via SATA mode? _________________________________________________________________ Find answers fast with [1]MSN Search BETA. New look and improved results. Give it a try! References 1. http://g.msn.com/8HMBENMY/2734??PS=47575 From owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jan 20 03:17:45 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E3D9716A4CE for ; Thu, 20 Jan 2005 03:17:45 +0000 (GMT) Received: from tisch.mail.mindspring.net (tisch.mail.mindspring.net [207.69.200.157]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9E9AF43D48 for ; Thu, 20 Jan 2005 03:17:45 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from keebler@mindspring.com) Received: from user-11fakm9.dsl.mindspring.com ([66.245.82.201] helo=[192.168.1.100]) by tisch.mail.mindspring.net with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #1) id 1CrSpI-0007E0-00 for freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org; Wed, 19 Jan 2005 22:17:41 -0500 Message-ID: <41EF2230.7080902@mindspring.com> Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2005 22:14:56 -0500 From: Carleton Vaughn User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (Windows/20041206) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org References: <41EC5DA7.6000202@fusemail.com> In-Reply-To: <41EC5DA7.6000202@fusemail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: How to setup fstab for DVD, floppy and CD drives? X-BeenThere: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Gathering place for new users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 20 Jan 2005 03:17:46 -0000 Brian John wrote: > Hello, > I have a DVD writer, a CD writer and a floppy drive in my PC. Since I > don't know what file system that a media will use until I put it in the > drive, how do I set it up in fstab? This is what it looks like right > now for these devices: > /dev/acd0 /cdrom auto rw,noauto 0 0 > /dev/acd1 /cdrom1 auto rw,noauto 0 0 > /dev/fd0 /floppy auto rw,noauto 0 0 > > The problem is, when I click on a device, it says: "mount: exec > mount_auto not found in /sbin:/usr/sbin: No such file or directory > Please check that the disk is entered correctly." > > How can I get this to work? "auto" is in the FStype field, and your mounter is trying to find the mount program for a file system of type "auto". There's no such thing. Change "auto" to "cd9660" for the cd & dvd and all will be happy. Might I suggest changing one of acd[01]'s mount point to /dvd? This might clear up any later confusion. Someone else probably better understands what "auto" in fstab is supposed to do. Have fun. P.S. Can someone comment on why the "rw" option is better here than "ro"? -- Carleton Vaughn College Park, Georgia, USA From owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jan 20 04:27:57 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C6A9316A4CE for ; Thu, 20 Jan 2005 04:27:57 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtp104.mail.sc5.yahoo.com (smtp104.mail.sc5.yahoo.com [66.163.169.223]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 9A66E43D45 for ; Thu, 20 Jan 2005 04:27:57 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from r11roadster@yahoo.com) Received: from unknown (HELO ?192.168.1.67?) (r11roadster@68.119.38.69 with login) by smtp104.mail.sc5.yahoo.com with SMTP; 20 Jan 2005 04:27:57 -0000 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (AVG SMTP 7.0.300 [265.7.0]); Wed, 19 Jan 2005 23:27:55 -0500 From: "Ronny Hippler" To: "freebsd newbies" Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2005 23:27:53 -0500 Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 2000 Professional (2.20.2717) For Windows 2000 (5.1.2600;2) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <20050120042757.9A66E43D45@mx1.FreeBSD.org> Subject: Noob boo boo with samba X-BeenThere: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Ronny Hippler List-Id: Gathering place for new users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 20 Jan 2005 04:27:57 -0000 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Well here is a noob sharing his experience. Don't mount a windows share in your home dir! Now how do I unmount this shy of rebooting? it just keeps giving a device is busy error even from root account. Doh! - -- I backed up my hard drive.. and smashed into a bus Ronny Hippler || Spartanburg SC http://www.ronnyhippler.com/ || ftp://ftp.vr5.dyndns.org:2112/ For PGP key email with "PGPKey" in the subject -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: PGP SDK 3.2.2 iQA/AwUBQe8zSTeqiUsaKJ66EQJNcgCgp1ELQ1gvITp9LQrMXw664Kzn1fEAoNSz wucO/viMCr7vNbBMjudQsGV1 =G3Q6 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jan 20 04:59:13 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 36B8C16A4CE for ; Thu, 20 Jan 2005 04:59:13 +0000 (GMT) Received: from nuumen.pair.com (nuumen.pair.com [209.68.1.119]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id B677B43D45 for ; Thu, 20 Jan 2005 04:59:12 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from thuppi@nuumen.pair.com) Received: (qmail 54564 invoked by uid 55300); 20 Jan 2005 04:59:12 -0000 Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2005 23:59:12 -0500 (EST) From: Tom Huppi X-X-Sender: thuppi@nuumen.pair.com To: Ronny Hippler In-Reply-To: <20050120042757.9A66E43D45@mx1.FreeBSD.org> Message-ID: References: <20050120042757.9A66E43D45@mx1.FreeBSD.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII cc: freebsd newbies Subject: Re: Noob boo boo with samba X-BeenThere: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Gathering place for new users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 20 Jan 2005 04:59:13 -0000 On Wed, 19 Jan 2005, Ronny Hippler wrote: > Well here is a noob sharing his experience. Don't mount a windows share > in your home dir! Now how do I unmount this shy of rebooting? it just > keeps giving a device is busy error even from root account. Doh! Try 'lsof' to see what processes are using what files. I've not tried it on a windows share, so YMMV, but it's the best tool (available on FreeBSD which seems to lack 'fuser') that I've found for other such difficulties in umounting various unix-served filesystems. Sometimes one might start a new process (i.e., an xterm) when within a mounted filesystem then even leaving that filesystem will not be sufficient to allow a umount (in my experiance at any rate.) Such things can be confusing and difficult to track down. 'lsof' (combine with 'grep' and 'wc') is also good at determining that it is 'mozilla' which has opened 10,000 file descriptors over the last three days too ;) BTW, 'lsof' is not part of the base system I don't think. In the ports collection, it's in sysutils/lsof/. Thanks, - Tom From owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jan 20 13:00:48 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5781016A4EB for ; Thu, 20 Jan 2005 13:00:48 +0000 (GMT) Received: from jive.SoftHome.net (jive.SoftHome.net [66.54.152.27]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 1DF5543D31 for ; Thu, 20 Jan 2005 13:00:48 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from meka@softhome.net) Received: (qmail 11172 invoked by uid 417); 20 Jan 2005 13:00:47 -0000 Received: from mambo-.softhome.net (HELO softhome.net) (172.16.2.15) by shunt-smtp-out-0 with SMTP; 20 Jan 2005 13:00:47 -0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) (uid 417) by softhome.net with local; Thu, 20 Jan 2005 06:00:47 -0700 From: meka@softhome.net To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Date: Thu, 20 Jan 2005 06:00:47 -0700 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Sender: meka@softhome.net X-Originating-IP: [82.117.202.193] Message-ID: Subject: Davicom ethernet card X-BeenThere: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Gathering place for new users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 20 Jan 2005 13:00:48 -0000 How to get this card started? I know how to make Intel eepro100 (linux name) going, but there is no loader.conf option for Davicom 9102A card (if I remember good, I'm not home at the moment). Thanx From owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jan 20 15:07:04 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A79AB16A4CE for ; Thu, 20 Jan 2005 15:07:04 +0000 (GMT) Received: from hotmail.com (bay13-f12.bay13.hotmail.com [64.4.31.12]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7A67843D2F for ; Thu, 20 Jan 2005 15:07:04 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from yokean1@hotmail.com) Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Thu, 20 Jan 2005 07:07:03 -0800 Message-ID: Received: from 210.195.42.37 by by13fd.bay13.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Thu, 20 Jan 2005 15:06:27 GMT X-Originating-IP: [210.195.42.37] X-Originating-Email: [yokean1@hotmail.com] X-Sender: yokean1@hotmail.com In-Reply-To: <2195.209.152.48.185.1106166022.squirrel@209.152.48.185> From: "yoke an" To: dmp@bitfreak.org, freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Date: Thu, 20 Jan 2005 23:06:27 +0800 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 20 Jan 2005 15:07:03.0194 (UTC) FILETIME=[B2BC1FA0:01C4FF01] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format="flowed" X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.1 Subject: Re: ICH5 + SATA + Seagate ST380013AS + FreeBSD v4.8? X-BeenThere: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Gathering place for new users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 20 Jan 2005 15:07:04 -0000 yoke an said: > > > > I'm in the process of installing freebsd v4.8 on Tyan Transport GX21 > > (B2735G21S2) with Tiger i7501R S2735-8M motherboard, with Seagate SATA > > disks (Model: ST380013AS). > > > > I have problem with FreeBSD v4.8-Release that cannot detect my HDD. Is > > ICH5 support SATA mode from FreeBSD v4.8-Release? Where can I download > > ICH5 that support FreeBSD v4.8-Release and how's the steps on > > installing this. > > > > BTW, I cannot change the installation to FreeBSD v5.3 coz my > > application only support 4.8-Release. > >Moving to 5.x isn't necessary. ICH5 SATA is officially supported starting >with 4.10. An application that works in 4.8 should work fine in 4.10. >What is your application? Thanks. Will try your suggestion. To a conclusion, as many of you 5.3 is the best choice. There is no support for the ICH5 SATA adapter in FreeBSD v4.8-Release. Release 4.10 supports ICH5 SATA on some motherboards. I don't think 4.10 support my Tyan S2735 motherboard, but Tyan S1365 yes. Release 4.11 is scheduled before the end of this month. The only way is to run IDE channel instead if I insist to use 4.8. BTW, thanks for your valuable suggestion. _________________________________________________________________ Find love online with [1]MSN Personals. References 1. http://g.msn.com/8HMAENMY/2740??PS=47575 From owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jan 20 22:16:32 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D001D16A4CE for ; Thu, 20 Jan 2005 22:16:32 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mail.finnovative.net (h204-247-59-114.ncal.verio.net [204.247.59.114]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6597D43D1F for ; Thu, 20 Jan 2005 22:16:32 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from linuxuser@finnovative.net) Received: from [192.168.55.105] ([192.168.55.105]) by mail.finnovative.net over TLS secured channel with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.211); Thu, 20 Jan 2005 14:16:29 -0800 Message-ID: <41F02DBE.7010505@finnovative.net> Date: Thu, 20 Jan 2005 14:16:30 -0800 From: Joaquin Menchaca User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (Windows/20041206) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-OriginalArrivalTime: 20 Jan 2005 22:16:29.0782 (UTC) FILETIME=[B0D16F60:01C4FF3D] Subject: Q: Latest Xorg and Packaging system X-BeenThere: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Gathering place for new users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 20 Jan 2005 22:16:32 -0000 Hi, I am unfamilar with the whole packaging system, but I somehow wandered into the usr/ports and discovered the wonder of make install. Kewl!!!! What I was wondering is how to packages get into the system. Is there an approval process. Specially I wanted to install xogon 6.8.x, but in the /usr/ports/x11/xorg, when I do make install, it's 6.7.1 - joaquin From owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jan 21 00:10:10 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8937616A4CE for ; Fri, 21 Jan 2005 00:10:10 +0000 (GMT) Received: from nuumen.pair.com (nuumen.pair.com [209.68.1.119]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id DD9B443D39 for ; Fri, 21 Jan 2005 00:10:09 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from thuppi@nuumen.pair.com) Received: (qmail 64761 invoked by uid 55300); 21 Jan 2005 00:10:09 -0000 Date: Thu, 20 Jan 2005 19:10:09 -0500 (EST) From: Tom Huppi X-X-Sender: thuppi@nuumen.pair.com To: Joaquin Menchaca In-Reply-To: <41F02DBE.7010505@finnovative.net> Message-ID: References: <41F02DBE.7010505@finnovative.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII cc: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Q: Latest Xorg and Packaging system X-BeenThere: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Gathering place for new users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2005 00:10:10 -0000 On Thu, 20 Jan 2005, Joaquin Menchaca wrote: > Hi, > > I am unfamilar with the whole packaging system, but I somehow wandered > into the usr/ports and discovered the wonder of make install. Kewl!!!! Ya, this to me is one of the top-most nice things about FreeBSD. I've read that Debian Linux also has a coherent package management system, but so far I've not had an opportunity or strong desire to learn more about it. I've had the mis-fortune of needing to use RedRat's RPM system, and have seen mis-use of it cause undue hardship. It's also interesting to note that the DragonflyBSD project is not completely enamored with the FreeBSD ports system in it's current form and wants to re-do some things which I only vaugly understand. > What I was wondering is how to packages get into the system. Is there > an approval process. Ya, but I'm not familiar with it to any great extent. I notice on the FreeBSD home page that they announce new people with commit access and the distinguish between 'ports', 'src', and some other things iirc. Check out the 'Porter's Handbook': http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/porters-handbook/index.html ...but that may or may not be the first reading you will want to do on the subject. > Specially I wanted to install xogon 6.8.x, but in the > /usr/ports/x11/xorg, when I do make install, it's 6.7.1 I believe that near the release time of 5.3, xorg 6.7.1 was the version that was in the ports collection. Since that time, the ports skeleton has evolved and now xorg 6.8.1 is current. I happen to have built it once on one machine before this update, and twice on another machines after. The solution (to wanting xorg 6.8.1 at this moment) would be to update your ports tree, probably using 'cvsup', then use 'portupgrade' (if you've already installed 6.7.1...'pkg_delete' (XFree86) and 'make install' if not.) Obviously these are not complete instructions, just pointers. One thing which confused me early on was that normally one wants to keep the 'ports tree' version 'bleeding edge', or HEAD. This is exactly opposite of what most people should be doing with the rest of the operating system. Keep that in mind when researching how to use 'cvsup' for this purpose (the handbook has good instructions here.) I was also confused about the distinction between the 'ports' system and the 'package' system initially. I ended up prefering the 'ports' system, and I try not to mix-and-match. I like the flexibility of building from source rather than using pre-built binaries. Personal preference. Also, be aware of the tool 'pkgdb'. To manage the complexity of the system with it's 10,000 ports and all the dependencies, various tools have been developed. This has made the whole system more confusing and difficult to use, but one really 'can't make an omelet without breaking eggs' as they say. Some time with the handbook and searching google (and pondering the issues) makes things become more clear and second-nature. Definatly allow for some moments of hair-pulling, but in the end it will probably be worth it...at least I feel that it was for me. Be aware that updating your ports tree will likely create a situation where previously installed software is now no longer aligned with the ports tree version. Normally you won't even notice, but if and when it's a problem, 'portupgrade' usually handles it nicely (in my experience.) Also, don't forget to scan the text file /usr/ports/UPDATING after a 'cvsup'. It has notes about special procedures, problems, solutions and so on. Thanks, - Tom From owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jan 21 01:26:22 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5110916A4CE for ; Fri, 21 Jan 2005 01:26:22 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mail.finnovative.net (h204-247-59-114.ncal.verio.net [204.247.59.114]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 13A5543D53 for ; Fri, 21 Jan 2005 01:26:22 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from linuxuser@finnovative.net) Received: from [192.168.55.105] ([192.168.55.105]) by mail.finnovative.net over TLS secured channel with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.211); Thu, 20 Jan 2005 17:26:21 -0800 Message-ID: <41F05A3D.3090504@finnovative.net> Date: Thu, 20 Jan 2005 17:26:21 -0800 From: Joaquin Menchaca User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (Windows/20041206) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-OriginalArrivalTime: 21 Jan 2005 01:26:21.0778 (UTC) FILETIME=[36FA1320:01C4FF58] Subject: Problems make installing xorg X-BeenThere: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Gathering place for new users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2005 01:26:22 -0000 Hi. I'm a total newbie to building stuff. I just tried to build something like xorg, and I get the following. :'( ===> Vulnerability check disabled, database not found ===> Extracting for xorg-6.7.0_1 ===> Patching for xorg-6.7.0_1 ===> xorg-6.7.0_1 depends on shared library: X11.6 - found ===> Configuring for xorg-6.7.0_1 From owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jan 21 01:32:42 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F1DCD16A4CE for ; Fri, 21 Jan 2005 01:32:41 +0000 (GMT) Received: from imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.66]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5809143D41 for ; Fri, 21 Jan 2005 01:32:41 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ahze@ahze.net) Received: from [192.168.1.5] ([68.209.163.3]) by imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.netESMTP <20050121013241.RUZD2060.imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net@[192.168.1.5]>; Thu, 20 Jan 2005 20:32:41 -0500 In-Reply-To: <41F05A3D.3090504@finnovative.net> References: <41F05A3D.3090504@finnovative.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v682) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Message-Id: <176FEFCF-5AB2-4487-B947-1377523E14BF@ahze.net> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Michael Johnson Date: Thu, 20 Jan 2005 20:32:34 -0500 To: Joaquin Menchaca X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.682) cc: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Problems make installing xorg X-BeenThere: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Gathering place for new users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2005 01:32:42 -0000 On Jan 20, 2005, at 8:26 PM, Joaquin Menchaca wrote: > Hi. > > I'm a total newbie to building stuff. I just tried to build something > like xorg, and I get the following. :'( > did you not paste it all? I see nothing wrong. > ===> Vulnerability check disabled, database not found > ===> Extracting for xorg-6.7.0_1 > ===> Patching for xorg-6.7.0_1 > ===> xorg-6.7.0_1 depends on shared library: X11.6 - found > ===> Configuring for xorg-6.7.0_1 > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-newbies > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-newbies-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jan 21 02:59:11 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D304316A4CE for ; Fri, 21 Jan 2005 02:59:11 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtp110.mail.sc5.yahoo.com (smtp110.mail.sc5.yahoo.com [66.163.170.8]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id A396043D2D for ; Fri, 21 Jan 2005 02:59:11 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from r11roadster@yahoo.com) Received: from unknown (HELO ?192.168.1.67?) (r11roadster@68.119.38.69 with login) by smtp110.mail.sc5.yahoo.com with SMTP; 21 Jan 2005 02:59:11 -0000 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (AVG SMTP 7.0.300 [265.7.0]); Thu, 20 Jan 2005 21:59:08 -0500 From: "Ronny Hippler" To: "freebsd newbies" Date: Thu, 20 Jan 2005 21:59:07 -0500 Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 2000 Professional (2.20.2717) For Windows 2000 (5.1.2600;2) In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <20050121025911.A396043D2D@mx1.FreeBSD.org> Subject: Re: Noob boo boo with samba X-BeenThere: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Ronny Hippler List-Id: Gathering place for new users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2005 02:59:11 -0000 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On Wed, 19 Jan 2005 23:59:12 -0500 (EST), Tom Huppi wrote: >> Well here is a noob sharing his experience. Don't mount a windows share >> in your home dir! Now how do I unmount this shy of rebooting? it just >> keeps giving a device is busy error even from root account. Doh! >Try 'lsof' to see what processes are using what files. I've not >tried it on a windows share, so YMMV, but it's the best tool Well I wound up rebooting because I am impatient :) I did install lsof for the next time I do something stupid. thanks for the info. - -- DOS never says "EXCELLENT command or filename"... Ronny Hippler || Spartanburg SC http://www.ronnyhippler.com/ || ftp://ftp.vr5.dyndns.org:2112/ For PGP key email with "PGPKey" in the subject -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: PGP SDK 3.2.2 iQA/AwUBQfBv+zeqiUsaKJ66EQLu9wCeMIzcJj/38FB+N/dsFuuu85Iu254AoIJO uKPQX5Maf/bsloG76SmT7cUX =nATd -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jan 21 09:09:40 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7CD5316A4CE for ; Fri, 21 Jan 2005 09:09:40 +0000 (GMT) Received: from nuumen.pair.com (nuumen.pair.com [209.68.1.119]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id E407443D5D for ; Fri, 21 Jan 2005 09:09:39 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from thuppi@nuumen.pair.com) Received: (qmail 76602 invoked by uid 55300); 21 Jan 2005 09:09:39 -0000 Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2005 04:09:39 -0500 (EST) From: Tom Huppi X-X-Sender: thuppi@nuumen.pair.com To: Ronny Hippler In-Reply-To: <20050121025911.A396043D2D@mx1.FreeBSD.org> Message-ID: References: <20050121025911.A396043D2D@mx1.FreeBSD.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII cc: freebsd newbies Subject: Re: Noob boo boo with samba X-BeenThere: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Gathering place for new users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2005 09:09:40 -0000 On Thu, 20 Jan 2005, Ronny Hippler wrote: > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA1 > > On Wed, 19 Jan 2005 23:59:12 -0500 (EST), Tom Huppi wrote: > > >> Well here is a noob sharing his experience. Don't mount a windows share > >> in your home dir! Now how do I unmount this shy of rebooting? it just > >> keeps giving a device is busy error even from root account. Doh! > >Try 'lsof' to see what processes are using what files. I've not > >tried it on a windows share, so YMMV, but it's the best tool > > Well I wound up rebooting because I am impatient :) I did install lsof > for the next time I do something stupid. thanks for the info. I doubt that what you did is stupid. You just have to do it right, and I suspect that you did else it probably wouldn't have worked. The problem you seem to have run across is pretty common. So is the solution you choose...you are not the first person to have done so...this is one of the few things I actually know for a fact to be true :) Thanks, - Tom From owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jan 21 09:33:14 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E9AF016A4CE for ; Fri, 21 Jan 2005 09:33:14 +0000 (GMT) Received: from nuumen.pair.com (nuumen.pair.com [209.68.1.119]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 697FF43D2F for ; Fri, 21 Jan 2005 09:33:14 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from thuppi@nuumen.pair.com) Received: (qmail 83359 invoked by uid 55300); 21 Jan 2005 09:33:14 -0000 Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2005 04:33:14 -0500 (EST) From: Tom Huppi X-X-Sender: thuppi@nuumen.pair.com To: Joaquin Menchaca In-Reply-To: <41F05A3D.3090504@finnovative.net> Message-ID: References: <41F05A3D.3090504@finnovative.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII cc: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Problems make installing xorg X-BeenThere: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Gathering place for new users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2005 09:33:15 -0000 On Thu, 20 Jan 2005, Joaquin Menchaca wrote: > Hi. > > I'm a total newbie to building stuff. I just tried to build something > like xorg, and I get the following. :'( > > ===> Vulnerability check disabled, database not found This has something to do with package databases, or some database which tracks vulnerabilities. I forgot the details, but when I looked into it (via a search of 'google groups') I concluded that it was not a real big deal for my situation. > ===> Extracting for xorg-6.7.0_1 > ===> Patching for xorg-6.7.0_1 > ===> xorg-6.7.0_1 depends on shared library: X11.6 - found This is because you have not first pkg_delete'd (or alternate?) XFree86. That library came from an earlier installation. xorg (the meta-port) has decided that it doesn't need to do much because it has found a rather important prerequisite. If it had not found this, it would have proceeded to build it. Both XFree86 and xorg build a library of this name. This is actually a really good thing because it means that for the most part, older applications built against XFree86 will usually work fine with no re-building. In some instances they won't, however, but I believe them to be quite rare at present. There is a thread including me about a week ago which discusses this issue. Probably you can find that on google as well, but I don't know for sure...am rebuilding my browser at the moment and can't check. There is also an interesting thread which I ran across involving the mechanics of how ports determine their prerequisites. The xorg/XFree86 instance was used as an example. Though it works, there is something of a deficiency in the system at present which makes it important to run 'pkgdb' after installing xorg. That was what I took away from the discussion as the thing to remember. Good luck with things, - Tom From owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jan 21 10:12:23 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F3C6B16A4CE for ; Fri, 21 Jan 2005 10:12:22 +0000 (GMT) Received: from ptb-relay03.plus.net (ptb-relay03.plus.net [212.159.14.214]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A3F0143D1D for ; Fri, 21 Jan 2005 10:12:22 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ml-freebsd-newbies@codepad.net) Received: from [80.229.159.44] (helo=[192.168.0.4]) by ptb-relay03.plus.net with esmtp (Exim) id 1Crw3g-000MJN-10 for freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org; Fri, 21 Jan 2005 10:30:28 +0000 From: Xian To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2005 10:12:17 +0000 User-Agent: KMail/1.7 References: <20050121025911.A396043D2D@mx1.FreeBSD.org> In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200501211012.17438.ml-freebsd-newbies@codepad.net> Subject: Re: Noob boo boo with samba X-BeenThere: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Gathering place for new users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2005 10:12:23 -0000 On Friday 21 January 2005 09:09, Tom Huppi wrote: > On Thu, 20 Jan 2005, Ronny Hippler wrote: > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > > Hash: SHA1 > > > > On Wed, 19 Jan 2005 23:59:12 -0500 (EST), Tom Huppi wrote: > > >> Well here is a noob sharing his experience. Don't mount a windows > > >> share in your home dir! Now how do I unmount this shy of rebooting? it > > >> just keeps giving a device is busy error even from root account. Doh! > > > > > >Try 'lsof' to see what processes are using what files. I've not > > >tried it on a windows share, so YMMV, but it's the best tool > > > > Well I wound up rebooting because I am impatient :) I did install lsof > > for the next time I do something stupid. thanks for the info. > > I doubt that what you did is stupid. You just have to do it > right, and I suspect that you did else it probably wouldn't have > worked. > > The problem you seem to have run across is pretty common. So is > the solution you choose...you are not the first person to have > done so...this is one of the few things I actually know for a > fact to be true :) > > Thanks, > > - Tom > You can use the -f option on umount, but I wouldn'trecomend this ulless you are sure your not going to do dammage. I mounted a USB Pen drive over my home dir and everything fell over. It ended in a kernel panic when I pulled the drive out still mounted. Oops. -- /Xian "Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity; and I'm not sure about the universe." Albert Einstein From owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jan 21 10:28:02 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D430116A4CE for ; Fri, 21 Jan 2005 10:28:02 +0000 (GMT) Received: from nuumen.pair.com (nuumen.pair.com [209.68.1.119]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 44A5043D2D for ; Fri, 21 Jan 2005 10:28:02 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from thuppi@nuumen.pair.com) Received: (qmail 6023 invoked by uid 55300); 21 Jan 2005 10:28:02 -0000 Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2005 05:28:02 -0500 (EST) From: Tom Huppi X-X-Sender: thuppi@nuumen.pair.com To: Xian In-Reply-To: <200501211012.17438.ml-freebsd-newbies@codepad.net> Message-ID: References: <20050121025911.A396043D2D@mx1.FreeBSD.org> <200501211012.17438.ml-freebsd-newbies@codepad.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII cc: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Noob boo boo with samba X-BeenThere: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Gathering place for new users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2005 10:28:03 -0000 On Fri, 21 Jan 2005, Xian wrote: > On Friday 21 January 2005 09:09, Tom Huppi wrote: > > On Thu, 20 Jan 2005, Ronny Hippler wrote: > > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > > > Hash: SHA1 > > > > > > On Wed, 19 Jan 2005 23:59:12 -0500 (EST), Tom Huppi wrote: > > > >> Well here is a noob sharing his experience. Don't mount a windows > > > >> share in your home dir! Now how do I unmount this shy of rebooting? it > > > >> just keeps giving a device is busy error even from root account. Doh! > > > > > > > >Try 'lsof' to see what processes are using what files. I've not > > > >tried it on a windows share, so YMMV, but it's the best tool > > > > > > Well I wound up rebooting because I am impatient :) I did install lsof > > > for the next time I do something stupid. thanks for the info. > > > > I doubt that what you did is stupid. You just have to do it > > right, and I suspect that you did else it probably wouldn't have > > worked. > > > > The problem you seem to have run across is pretty common. So is > > the solution you choose...you are not the first person to have > > done so...this is one of the few things I actually know for a > > fact to be true :) > > > > Thanks, > > > > - Tom > > > > You can use the -f option on umount, but I wouldn'trecomend this ulless you > are sure your not going to do dammage. More often than not (in my experiance) the -f option is not very effective. I actually don't recall exactly which OS's I've found this to be true on. All of the ones I've used, I think. > I mounted a USB Pen drive over my home dir and everything fell over. It ended > in a kernel panic when I pulled the drive out still mounted. Oops. I suspect that protecting against the disaprerance of a filesystem which is in use would be both difficult to implement, and prone to induce performance penalties. I suspect that a concious trade-off was made on the part of the OS designers, and that is at the root of the extreame difficulty in umounting filesystems at times. 'umass' (which is asssociated with the pen drive I believe) should be different though, I think. In that case I suspect it was simply some sort of bug, and hopefully solved by now. iirc, back in the FreeBSD 2.x timeframe it was actually _expected behavior_ to get a kernel panic if one ejected a mounted floppy. Then folks decided that it was to much of a burdon on us poor newbies and did something about it. Thanks, - Tom From owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jan 21 12:36:26 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 45EA616A4CE for ; Fri, 21 Jan 2005 12:36:26 +0000 (GMT) Received: from enigmedia.com (mail.enigmedia.com [207.158.46.230]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 239D943D41 for ; Fri, 21 Jan 2005 12:36:26 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from aklist_061666@enigmedia.com) Received: from ANDREW9KNFJ0JD (68.161.247.47) by enigmedia.com with ESMTP (Eudora Internet Mail Server 3.2.6) for ; Fri, 21 Jan 2005 07:36:26 -0500 Message-ID: <01c301c4ffb5$db1052a0$0b01a8c0@enigmedia.net> From: "aklist_061666" To: References: <41F05A3D.3090504@finnovative.net> Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2005 07:36:39 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 Subject: keeping 5.1 install up to date? X-BeenThere: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Gathering place for new users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2005 12:36:26 -0000 Hi All: Are there any FAQs or guides available online that explain how to keep a 5.1 install up to date, in terms of patching installed packages, etc.? Are there any utilities that can tell you if updates are available for installed packages? TIA, AK From owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jan 21 19:10:12 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 56D0116A4D0 for ; Fri, 21 Jan 2005 19:10:12 +0000 (GMT) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 053C743D31 for ; Fri, 21 Jan 2005 19:10:12 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from sue@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (sue@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id j0LJABt9058079 for ; Fri, 21 Jan 2005 19:10:11 GMT (envelope-from sue@freefall.freebsd.org) Received: (from sue@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.13.1/8.13.1/Submit) id j0LJABxh058075 for freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org; Fri, 21 Jan 2005 19:10:11 GMT (envelope-from sue) Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2005 19:10:11 GMT From: Sue Blake Message-Id: <200501211910.j0LJABxh058075@freefall.freebsd.org> To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Subject: FreeBSD Newbies FAK X-BeenThere: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Gathering place for new users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2005 19:10:12 -0000 FreeBSD-Newbies First Aid Kit This is a regular posting to the FreeBSD-Newbies mailing list. It is also available at http://people.freebsd.org/~sue/newbies/fak.html FreeBSD-Questions@FreeBSD.ORG is the place to send all questions about installing, configuring, running and using FreeBSD. All help requests are handled by FreeBSD-Questions, including newbies questions. It is particularly important to send all installation questions and answers to FreeBSD-Questions so that they only appear in one place. FreeBSD-Newbies is different. We don't ask for FreeBSD help or answer how-to questions. It is a discussion forum for newbies. FreeBSD-Newbies provides a place for new FreeBSD users to meet and covers any of the activities of newbies that are not already dealt with elsewhere. 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It is going to be confusing for a little while because we're all newbies so we all make mistakes. That's OK. One thing we're going to see a fair bit is people posting questions, believing they're doing the right thing by posting here as newbies, not realising how it works. If someone answers those questions the situation will snowball. There's nothing wrong with helping someone to redirect their question to freebsd-questions, but please do so gently. There's nothing wrong with the occasional mistake either. So all questions, requests for help, etc still go to freebsd-questions as usual. Ours is more of a discussion group, a place where newbies can relax with other newbies and focus more on our successes than on our temporary imperfection. We can talk about things here that are not allowed on freebsd-questions. 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Processed in 10.471341 secs); 21 Jan 2005 19:16:22 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO agnes.myhome.net) (lute@vfemail.net@63.229.187.130) by miwi2dsl-a234.wi.tds.net with SMTP; 21 Jan 2005 19:16:09 -0000 Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2005 13:16:08 -0600 From: Lute Mullenix To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20050121131608.4a98e572@agnes.myhome.net> In-Reply-To: <01c301c4ffb5$db1052a0$0b01a8c0@enigmedia.net> References: <41F05A3D.3090504@finnovative.net> <01c301c4ffb5$db1052a0$0b01a8c0@enigmedia.net> X-Mailer: Sylpheed-Claws 0.9.13 (GTK+ 1.2.10; i386-portbld-freebsd5.3) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: keeping 5.1 install up to date? X-BeenThere: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Gathering place for new users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2005 19:16:24 -0000 On Fri, 21 Jan 2005 07:36:39 -0500 "aklist_061666" insisted: > Hi All: > > Are there any FAQs or guides available online that explain how to keep a > 5.1 install up to date, in terms of patching installed packages, etc.? > Are there any utilities that can tell you if updates are available for > installed packages? > > TIA, AK > Yes you do that with cvsup it's not hard to set up and easy to use, it's covered in the handbook but I don't have time right now to find just where it's at, (on the way to work). Good luck and have fun. -- Lute It's OK to be different FreeBSD 5.3 RELEASE From owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jan 21 21:10:32 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DB85616A4CE for ; Fri, 21 Jan 2005 21:10:31 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mail.finnovative.net (h204-247-59-114.ncal.verio.net [204.247.59.114]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6C95443D1F for ; Fri, 21 Jan 2005 21:10:31 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from linuxuser@finnovative.net) Received: from [192.168.55.105] ([192.168.55.105]) by mail.finnovative.net over TLS secured channel with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.211); Fri, 21 Jan 2005 13:10:31 -0800 Message-ID: <41F16FC6.9080102@finnovative.net> Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2005 13:10:30 -0800 From: Joaquin Menchaca User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (Windows/20041206) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org References: <41F05A3D.3090504@finnovative.net> <176FEFCF-5AB2-4487-B947-1377523E14BF@ahze.net> In-Reply-To: <176FEFCF-5AB2-4487-B947-1377523E14BF@ahze.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-OriginalArrivalTime: 21 Jan 2005 21:10:31.0099 (UTC) FILETIME=[A3AC18B0:01C4FFFD] Subject: Re: Problems make installing xorg X-BeenThere: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Gathering place for new users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2005 21:10:32 -0000 Michael Johnson wrote: > On Jan 20, 2005, at 8:26 PM, Joaquin Menchaca wrote: > > > >> Hi. >> >> I'm a total newbie to building stuff. I just tried to build something >> like xorg, and I get the following. :'( >> > did you not paste it all? I see nothing wrong. > Oops. ObsidianOrder# make install ===> Installing for xorg-6.7.0_1 ===> xorg-6.7.0_1 depends on executable: xvinfo - found ===> xorg-6.7.0_1 depends on file: /usr/X11R6/share/doc/X11/ddx.txt - found ===> xorg-6.7.0_1 depends on file: /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi/UTBI__10-IS O8859-1.pcf.gz - found ===> xorg-6.7.0_1 depends on file: /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi/UTBI__10-ISO 8859-1.pcf.gz - found ===> xorg-6.7.0_1 depends on file: /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/cyrillic/crox1c.pc f.gz - not found ===> Verifying install for /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/cyrillic/crox1c.pcf.gz in /usr/ports/x11-fonts/xorg-fonts-cyrillic ===> Vulnerability check disabled, database not found ===> Extracting for xorg-fonts-cyrillic-6.7.0 >> Checksum mismatch for xorg/X11R6.7.0-src1.tar.gz. ===> Refetch for 1 more times files: xorg/X11R6.7.0-src1.tar.gz ===> Vulnerability check disabled, database not found >> X11R6.7.0-src1.tar.gz doesn't seem to exist in /usr/ports/distfiles/xorg. >> Attempting to fetch from http://freedesktop.org/~xorg/X11R6.7.0/src/. fetch: http://freedesktop.org/~xorg/X11R6.7.0/src/X11R6.7.0-src1.tar.gz: Not Fou nd >> Attempting to fetch from ftp://ftp.x.org/pub/R6.7/tars/. fetch: ftp://ftp.x.org/pub/R6.7/tars/X11R6.7.0-src1.tar.gz: Not logged in >> Attempting to fetch from ftp://ftp.gwdg.de/pub/x11/x.org/pub/R6.7/tars/. fetch: X11R6.7.0-src1.tar.gz: local modification time does not match remote >> Attempting to fetch from ftp://ftp.cica.es/pub/X/pub/R6.7/tars/. fetch: X11R6.7.0-src1.tar.gz: local modification time does not match remote >> Attempting to fetch from ftp://ftp.cs.cuhk.edu.hk/pub/X11/R6.7/tars/. fetch: ftp://ftp.cs.cuhk.edu.hk/pub/X11/R6.7/tars/X11R6.7.0-src1.tar.gz: Not log ged in >> Attempting to fetch from ftp://sunsite.sut.ac.jp/pub/archives/X11/R6.7/tars/. fetch: X11R6.7.0-src1.tar.gz: local modification time does not match remote >> Attempting to fetch from ftp://ftp.unicamp.br/pub/X11/releases/R6.7/tars/. fetch: X11R6.7.0-src1.tar.gz: local modification time does not match remote >> Attempting to fetch from ftp://ftp.ntua.gr/pub/X11/X.org/R6.7/tars/. fetch: X11R6.7.0-src1.tar.gz: local modification time does not match remote >> Attempting to fetch from ftp://ftp.task.gda.pl/mirror/ftp.x.org/pub/R6.7/tars /. fetch: X11R6.7.0-src1.tar.gz: local modification time does not match remote >> Attempting to fetch from ftp://ftp.sunet.se/pub/X11/ftp.x.org/R6.7/tars/. fetch: X11R6.7.0-src1.tar.gz: local modification time does not match remote >> Attempting to fetch from ftp://ftp.mirrorservice.org/sites/ftp.x.org/pub/R6.7 /tars/. fetch: X11R6.7.0-src1.tar.gz: local modification time does not match remote >> Attempting to fetch from ftp://sunsite.uio.no/pub/X11/R6.7/tars/. fetch: X11R6.7.0-src1.tar.gz: local modification time does not match remote >> Attempting to fetch from ftp://ftp.cs.tu-berlin.de/pub/X/x/R6.7/tars/. fetch: X11R6.7.0-src1.tar.gz: local modification time does not match remote >> Attempting to fetch from ftp://ftp.FreeBSD.org/pub/FreeBSD/ports/distfiles/xo rg/. fetch: X11R6.7.0-src1.tar.gz: local modification time does not match remote >> Couldn't fetch it - please try to retrieve this >> port manually into /usr/ports/distfiles/xorg and try again. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/ports/x11-fonts/xorg-fonts-cyrillic. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/ports/x11-fonts/xorg-fonts-cyrillic. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/ports/x11/xorg. From owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jan 21 21:20:22 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8098616A4CF for ; Fri, 21 Jan 2005 21:20:22 +0000 (GMT) Received: from pluto.phpwebhosting.com (pluto.phpwebhosting.com [69.0.209.128]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id EC93A43D2D for ; Fri, 21 Jan 2005 21:20:21 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from keith@barkinglizards.com) Received: (qmail 5424 invoked from network); 21 Jan 2005 21:20:20 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO Rand) (69.152.101.1) by pluto.phpwebhosting.com with SMTP; 21 Jan 2005 21:20:20 -0000 From: "Keith Bottner" To: "Freebsd-Newbies@Freebsd. Org" Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2005 15:18:21 -0600 Organization: Barking Lizards Technologies MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook, Build 11.0.6353 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 thread-index: AcT//rqlIhXj3/fwTBCSFZAWicO5KQ== Message-Id: <20050121212021.EC93A43D2D@mx1.FreeBSD.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1250" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.1 Subject: regexec for filtering files in a directory X-BeenThere: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Gathering place for new users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2005 21:20:22 -0000 I am trying to use the regcomp and regexec methods to filter files from a directory; however, the regexec function always says that it matches the pattern. Is there any problems with the regex functions? Or something in the code that I am just missing? Or is there just a better way to do what I am trying to do? Basically: regex_t reg; int err = regcomp(®, "^.+\\.c$", REG_EXTENDED | REG_NOSUB); DIR * dirp = opendir("~/"); struct dirent * pDirEnt; while ((pDirEnt = readdir(dirp)) != NULL) { err = regexec(®, pDirEnt->d_name, 0, 0, 0); if (err == 0) { printf("%s\n", pDirEnt->d_name); } } regfree(&preg); closedir(dirp); Thanks, Keith -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.300 / Virus Database: 265.7.1 - Release Date: 1/19/2005 From owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jan 22 00:20:12 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8AB4C16A4CE for ; Sat, 22 Jan 2005 00:20:12 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mail.bitfreak.org (mail.bitfreak.org [65.75.198.146]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3905043D48 for ; Sat, 22 Jan 2005 00:20:12 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from dmp@bitfreak.org) Received: from spud (mail.bitfreak.org [65.75.198.146]) by mail.bitfreak.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 60BBF19F2C; Fri, 21 Jan 2005 16:24:12 -0800 (PST) From: "Darren Pilgrim" To: "'Carleton Vaughn'" , Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2005 16:20:02 -0800 Message-ID: <001601c50018$211693b0$142a15ac@spud> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.6626 In-Reply-To: <41EF2230.7080902@mindspring.com> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 Importance: Normal Subject: RE: How to setup fstab for DVD, floppy and CD drives? X-BeenThere: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Gathering place for new users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 22 Jan 2005 00:20:12 -0000 > From: Carleton Vaughn >=20 > Brian John wrote: > > /dev/acd0 /cdrom auto rw,noauto 0 = 0 <...> > > "mount: exec mount_auto not found in /sbin:/usr/sbin: No such file = or > > directory. Please check that the disk is entered correctly." > >=20 > > How can I get this to work? > > "auto" is in the FStype field, and your mounter is trying to find the=20 > mount program for a file system of type "auto". There's no such = thing. <...> > Someone else probably better understands what "auto" in fstab is=20 > supposed to do. The "auto/noauto" option is used to tell `mount -a` if the filesystem = should be mounted automatically. The typical line for a CD/DVD device that = isn't needed at boot is something like: /dev/device /mountpoint cd9660 ro,noauto > P.S. Can someone comment on why the "rw" option is better=20 > here than "ro"? It's not, you should use "ro" for CD/DVD drives. The mounted = filesystems on these drives can't be written to even if the media itself is writeable. = In FreeBSD, CD/DVD writing is done by writing directly to the device. From owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jan 22 08:34:11 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7EB6816A4CE for ; Sat, 22 Jan 2005 08:34:11 +0000 (GMT) Received: from nuumen.pair.com (nuumen.pair.com [209.68.1.119]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 0A2A943D54 for ; Sat, 22 Jan 2005 08:34:11 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from thuppi@nuumen.pair.com) Received: (qmail 64543 invoked by uid 55300); 22 Jan 2005 08:34:09 -0000 Date: Sat, 22 Jan 2005 03:34:09 -0500 (EST) From: Tom Huppi X-X-Sender: thuppi@nuumen.pair.com To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Subject: Discovered a new browser... X-BeenThere: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Gathering place for new users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 22 Jan 2005 08:34:11 -0000 I have several old machines here and there, and developments in X and current browsers are really starting to hurt. I remember fondly the days when the open-source crowd refered to Microsoft software as 'bloatware'. What is really killing me are large pages like Python's html documentation which I keep locally. I just discovered a solution for _that_ problem which I thought I'd share and which I doubt that everyone is aware of. It's a browser called 'dillo'. It's written in C, and it seems extraordinarily fast. It's capabilities are quite limited (doesn't even do frames correctly), but it's still very usable for a lot of things. In fact, I kinda like how it does Google's 'groups' frames page. It just puts the right frame down below. It also seems more stable than 'Oprah' which, when I tried it several years ago, was *the* most unstable thing I've ever tried to run on FreeBSD with the possible exception of the windows CAD program 'microstation95' running through 'wine' :) Anyway, it might be worth looking at. It can be built from the ports collection and tried out in the time it takes to start mozilla. I can almost say that *literally*! Thanks, - Tom From owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jan 22 09:50:45 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1A49B16A4CE for ; Sat, 22 Jan 2005 09:50:45 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mail.gmx.net (mail.gmx.de [213.165.64.20]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 4F8F943D2F for ; Sat, 22 Jan 2005 09:50:44 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from herbert.feutl@gmx.at) Received: (qmail invoked by alias); 22 Jan 2005 09:50:43 -0000 Received: from jennersdorf2-191-149.wco.wellcom.at (EHLO [192.168.123.120]) (195.230.191.149) by mail.gmx.net (mp024) with SMTP; 22 Jan 2005 10:50:43 +0100 X-Authenticated: #19369275 Message-ID: <41F221E9.3090101@gmx.at> Date: Sat, 22 Jan 2005 10:50:33 +0100 From: Herbert Feutl User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 0.9 (Windows/20041103) X-Accept-Language: de-DE, de, en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Tom Huppi References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Y-GMX-Trusted: 0 cc: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Discovered a new browser... X-BeenThere: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Gathering place for new users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 22 Jan 2005 09:50:45 -0000 dillo is a nice browser, but problems with frames are not acceptable for me. so i found a better and faster solution. its smaller and faster and if you want, you can browse also in the text modus. also nice is, that you do not need a big display, so i can surf really good at 800x480. install: links pkg_add -r links start it with the option g und you have won. links -g makes links graphically thx herbert Tom Huppi schrieb: > > I have several old machines here and there, and developments in X > and current browsers are really starting to hurt. I remember > fondly the days when the open-source crowd refered to Microsoft > software as 'bloatware'. > > What is really killing me are large pages like Python's html > documentation which I keep locally. I just discovered a solution > for _that_ problem which I thought I'd share and which I doubt > that everyone is aware of. It's a browser called 'dillo'. It's > written in C, and it seems extraordinarily fast. It's > capabilities are quite limited (doesn't even do frames correctly), > but it's still very usable for a lot of things. In fact, I kinda > like how it does Google's 'groups' frames page. It just puts the > right frame down below. It also seems more stable than 'Oprah' > which, when I tried it several years ago, was *the* most unstable > thing I've ever tried to run on FreeBSD with the possible > exception of the windows CAD program 'microstation95' running > through 'wine' :) > > Anyway, it might be worth looking at. It can be built from the > ports collection and tried out in the time it takes to start > mozilla. I can almost say that *literally*! > > Thanks, > > - Tom > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-newbies > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-newbies-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > From owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jan 22 10:15:43 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2F3A116A4CE for ; Sat, 22 Jan 2005 10:15:43 +0000 (GMT) Received: from nuumen.pair.com (nuumen.pair.com [209.68.1.119]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id AE7BA43D3F for ; Sat, 22 Jan 2005 10:15:42 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from thuppi@nuumen.pair.com) Received: (qmail 5596 invoked by uid 55300); 22 Jan 2005 10:15:42 -0000 Date: Sat, 22 Jan 2005 05:15:42 -0500 (EST) From: Tom Huppi X-X-Sender: thuppi@nuumen.pair.com To: Herbert Feutl In-Reply-To: <41F221E9.3090101@gmx.at> Message-ID: References: <41F221E9.3090101@gmx.at> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII cc: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Discovered a new browser... X-BeenThere: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Gathering place for new users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 22 Jan 2005 10:15:43 -0000 On Sat, 22 Jan 2005, Herbert Feutl wrote: > dillo is a nice browser, but problems with frames are not acceptable for me. > so i found a better and faster solution. > its smaller and faster and if you want, you can browse also in the text modus. > also nice is, that you do not need a big display, so i can surf really good at 800x480. > > install: > links > pkg_add -r links > > start it with the option g und you have won. > links -g > makes links graphically I just built it and gave it a quick test. Thanks for the tip. It's only been recently that I've taken an interest in seeking out lightweight software. (The inspiration for me is that I'm thinking of replacing an old worm-infested win95 OS on a friend of mine's P-200 32MB system. He's not computer literate, but all he does is e-mail and web, and I think maybe I can make it easy enough for him.) It does seem, however, that both 'links -g' and 'dillo' handle at least Google 'groups' frames in the same manner...at least the versions that I'm running. As I said, I actually kind of like this. It provides more horizontal space for the listings. Lot of times frames seem to be mainly a place for people to try to sell you junk anyway :) Links also seems to handle tables differently (or the one at the top of my home page is illegal to it or something.) Thanks, - Tom From owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jan 22 11:08:08 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F1F3216A4CE for ; Sat, 22 Jan 2005 11:08:08 +0000 (GMT) Received: from rproxy.gmail.com (rproxy.gmail.com [64.233.170.204]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 83F2443D48 for ; Sat, 22 Jan 2005 11:08:08 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from cmello@gmail.com) Received: by rproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id z35so227525rne for ; Sat, 22 Jan 2005 03:08:08 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:references; b=j8ntqGyw+GyFJNtRTXxthGtsV5QTr95cRrWdVVDW2dW02HuTeAsvFE8iZwTQDn9jbMuWqacnmiw8y/es0Vw5gEeb/vCvY/pTDkU6U++V7S8Mpe2pN6zDH1cuFaA6jYhonieaSAUmWb1L9CEpUTnLXFPxc2Uk58QRO6OSOZNC0s0= Received: by 10.38.79.44 with SMTP id c44mr4007rnb; Sat, 22 Jan 2005 03:08:08 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.38.15.66 with HTTP; Sat, 22 Jan 2005 03:08:08 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: Date: Sat, 22 Jan 2005 08:08:08 -0300 From: Cesar Mello To: Tom Huppi In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit References: <41F221E9.3090101@gmx.at> cc: Herbert Feutl cc: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Discovered a new browser... X-BeenThere: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Cesar Mello List-Id: Gathering place for new users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 22 Jan 2005 11:08:09 -0000 Hi Tom, I feel happy to find people like you that seek lightweight software. I run FreeBSD 5.3 on a Toshiba Portege Pentium 133 with 32 MB of RAM, and use dillo also. But even Xorg is too much bloatware nowadays, unfortunately. Best regards! Cesar On Sat, 22 Jan 2005 05:15:42 -0500 (EST), Tom Huppi wrote: > > > > On Sat, 22 Jan 2005, Herbert Feutl wrote: > > > dillo is a nice browser, but problems with frames are not acceptable for me. > > so i found a better and faster solution. > > its smaller and faster and if you want, you can browse also in the text modus. > > also nice is, that you do not need a big display, so i can surf really good at 800x480. > > > > install: > > links > > pkg_add -r links > > > > start it with the option g und you have won. > > links -g > > makes links graphically > > I just built it and gave it a quick test. Thanks for the tip. > It's only been recently that I've taken an interest in seeking out > lightweight software. (The inspiration for me is that I'm > thinking of replacing an old worm-infested win95 OS on a friend of > mine's P-200 32MB system. He's not computer literate, but all he > does is e-mail and web, and I think maybe I can make it easy > enough for him.) > > It does seem, however, that both 'links -g' and 'dillo' handle at > least Google 'groups' frames in the same manner...at least the > versions that I'm running. As I said, I actually kind of like > this. It provides more horizontal space for the listings. Lot of > times frames seem to be mainly a place for people to try to sell > you junk anyway :) Links also seems to handle tables differently > (or the one at the top of my home page is illegal to it or > something.) > > Thanks, > > - Tom > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-newbies > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-newbies-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jan 22 11:17:08 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 20DEE16A4CE for ; Sat, 22 Jan 2005 11:17:08 +0000 (GMT) Received: from hotmail.com (bay19-f23.bay19.hotmail.com [64.4.53.73]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0528C43D1F for ; Sat, 22 Jan 2005 11:17:08 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jojo472@hotmail.com) Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Sat, 22 Jan 2005 03:16:01 -0800 Message-ID: Received: from 202.137.66.192 by by19fd.bay19.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Sat, 22 Jan 2005 11:15:47 GMT X-Originating-IP: [202.137.66.192] X-Originating-Email: [jojo472@hotmail.com] X-Sender: jojo472@hotmail.com From: "Jo Bailey" To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Date: Sat, 22 Jan 2005 22:15:47 +1100 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed X-OriginalArrivalTime: 22 Jan 2005 11:16:01.0238 (UTC) FILETIME=[C130FF60:01C50073] Subject: FAILURE - WRITE_DMA timed out X-BeenThere: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Gathering place for new users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 22 Jan 2005 11:17:08 -0000 I'm getting the following timeout messages, I've copied the interesting dmesg output below. Has anyone got any suggestions on what is causing this or point me in the right direction? The hardware is a standard Acer Altos R310. acpi_cpu: throttling enabled, 8 steps (100% to 12.5%), currently 100.0% acd0: CDROM at ata0-master UDMA33 ad2: 76319MB [155061/16/63] at ata1-master SATA150 Mounting root from ufs:/dev/ad2s1a em0: Link is up 100 Mbps Full Duplex ad2: TIMEOUT - WRITE_DMA retrying (2 retries left) LBA=9611455 ad2: FAILURE - WRITE_DMA timed out ad2: TIMEOUT - WRITE_DMA retrying (2 retries left) LBA=9627231 ad2: FAILURE - WRITE_DMA timed out ad2: TIMEOUT - WRITE_DMA retrying (2 retries left) LBA=5095231 ad2: FAILURE - WRITE_DMA timed out ad2: TIMEOUT - WRITE_DMA retrying (2 retries left) LBA=9611455 ad2: FAILURE - WRITE_DMA timed out ad2: TIMEOUT - WRITE_DMA retrying (2 retries left) LBA=5095231 ad2: FAILURE - WRITE_DMA timed out ad2: TIMEOUT - WRITE_DMA retrying (2 retries left) LBA=9625791 ad2: FAILURE - WRITE_DMA timed out ad2: TIMEOUT - WRITE_DMA retrying (2 retries left) LBA=9611267 ad2: FAILURE - WRITE_DMA timed out ad2: TIMEOUT - WRITE_DMA retrying (2 retries left) LBA=9611455 ad2: FAILURE - WRITE_DMA timed out ad2: TIMEOUT - WRITE_DMA retrying (2 retries left) LBA=9627327 ad2: FAILURE - WRITE_DMA timed out Thank you in advance for any help. 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Must be over 18 and AU only: http://ad.au.doubleclick.net/clk;11046970;10638934;f?http://www.anz.com/aus/promo/first1004ninemsn/default.asp From owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jan 22 13:58:21 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 04D2616A4CE for ; Sat, 22 Jan 2005 13:58:21 +0000 (GMT) Received: from jive.SoftHome.net (jive.SoftHome.net [66.54.152.27]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 90DB643D4C for ; Sat, 22 Jan 2005 13:58:20 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from meka@softhome.net) Received: (qmail 5989 invoked by uid 417); 22 Jan 2005 13:58:20 -0000 Received: from mambo-.softhome.net (HELO softhome.net) (172.16.2.15) by shunt-smtp-out-0 with SMTP; 22 Jan 2005 13:58:20 -0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) (uid 417) by softhome.net with local; Sat, 22 Jan 2005 06:58:20 -0700 From: meka@softhome.net To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Date: Sat, 22 Jan 2005 06:58:20 -0700 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Sender: meka@softhome.net X-Originating-IP: [82.208.205.59] Message-ID: Subject: Conncetion sharing X-BeenThere: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Gathering place for new users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 22 Jan 2005 13:58:21 -0000 What are the basic steps to do this? I have working LAN (everyone can ping and ssh to anyone) and this machine can go to internet. I would like to make it a gateway but no succes. This machine has fxp0 as LAN interface. Thanx. :o) From owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jan 22 14:38:59 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CA65716A4CE for ; Sat, 22 Jan 2005 14:38:59 +0000 (GMT) Received: from gate.fan.priv.at (fan.priv.at [213.129.233.100]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E344F43D3F for ; Sat, 22 Jan 2005 14:38:58 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from alex@gate.fan.priv.at) Received: from gate.fan.priv.at (alex@localhost.fan.priv.at [127.0.0.1]) by gate.fan.priv.at (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id j0MEcq2h001247 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Sat, 22 Jan 2005 15:38:52 +0100 (CET) Received: (from alex@localhost) by gate.fan.priv.at (8.13.1/8.13.0/Submit) id j0MEcmSd002995; Sat, 22 Jan 2005 15:38:48 +0100 (CET) Date: Sat, 22 Jan 2005 15:38:48 +0100 From: "Alex D'Elia" To: meka@softhome.net Message-ID: <20050122143848.GC21608@fan.priv.at> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: X-Operating-System: OpenBSD 3.6 User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.6i X-SMTP-Vilter-Version: 1.1.8 X-SMTP-Vilter-Virus-Backend: clamd X-SMTP-Vilter-Status: clean X-SMTP-Vilter-clamd-Virus-Status: clean X-SMTP-Vilter-Spam-Backend: spamd X-Spam-Score: -4.4 X-Spam-Threshold: 4.0 X-Spam-Probability: -1.1 cc: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Conncetion sharing X-BeenThere: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Gathering place for new users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 22 Jan 2005 14:38:59 -0000 * meka@softhome.net [050122 14:58]: > What are the basic steps to do this? I have working LAN (everyone can ping > and ssh to anyone) and this machine can go to internet. I would like to > make it a gateway but no succes. This machine has fxp0 as LAN interface. > Thanx. :o) Hi meka, You need to build a router. Read the hanbook Chapter 24, the 24.2 Section tells you how to do that with FreeBSD :) Have fun ! alex -- ** Alex D'Elia aka acme ** http://root.acme.com ** priv:: alex@fan.priv.at ** work:: acme@sil.at From owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jan 22 15:39:28 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5250616A4CE for ; Sat, 22 Jan 2005 15:39:28 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mail.gmx.net (pop.gmx.net [213.165.64.20]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 7365743D2D for ; Sat, 22 Jan 2005 15:39:27 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from herbert.feutl@gmx.at) Received: (qmail invoked by alias); 22 Jan 2005 15:39:26 -0000 Received: from jennersdorf2-191-149.wco.wellcom.at (EHLO [192.168.123.101]) (195.230.191.149) by mail.gmx.net (mp007) with SMTP; 22 Jan 2005 16:39:26 +0100 X-Authenticated: #19369275 Message-ID: <41F273B1.8080108@gmx.at> Date: Sat, 22 Jan 2005 16:39:29 +0100 From: Herbert Feutl User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (Windows/20041206) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Cesar Mello References: <41F221E9.3090101@gmx.at> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Y-GMX-Trusted: 0 cc: Tom Huppi cc: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Discovered a new browser... X-BeenThere: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Gathering place for new users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 22 Jan 2005 15:39:28 -0000 i am also searching for lightweight software but its hard to find. i'm running freebsd 4.10 on a toschiba libretto 100CT what i need at this time is a graphicle filemanager, imageviewer and a mail client. also i am searching for a nice icq glient für my fluxbox which can handle with a display size of 800x480. thanx herbert Cesar Mello wrote: > Hi Tom, > > I feel happy to find people like you that seek lightweight software. I > run FreeBSD 5.3 on a Toshiba Portege Pentium 133 with 32 MB of RAM, > and use dillo also. But even Xorg is too much bloatware nowadays, > unfortunately. > > Best regards! > Cesar > > > On Sat, 22 Jan 2005 05:15:42 -0500 (EST), Tom Huppi wrote: > >> >> >>On Sat, 22 Jan 2005, Herbert Feutl wrote: >> >> >>>dillo is a nice browser, but problems with frames are not acceptable for me. >>>so i found a better and faster solution. >>>its smaller and faster and if you want, you can browse also in the text modus. >>>also nice is, that you do not need a big display, so i can surf really good at 800x480. >>> >>>install: >>>links >>>pkg_add -r links >>> >>>start it with the option g und you have won. >>>links -g >>>makes links graphically >> >>I just built it and gave it a quick test. Thanks for the tip. >>It's only been recently that I've taken an interest in seeking out >>lightweight software. (The inspiration for me is that I'm >>thinking of replacing an old worm-infested win95 OS on a friend of >>mine's P-200 32MB system. He's not computer literate, but all he >>does is e-mail and web, and I think maybe I can make it easy >>enough for him.) >> >>It does seem, however, that both 'links -g' and 'dillo' handle at >>least Google 'groups' frames in the same manner...at least the >>versions that I'm running. As I said, I actually kind of like >>this. It provides more horizontal space for the listings. Lot of >>times frames seem to be mainly a place for people to try to sell >>you junk anyway :) Links also seems to handle tables differently >>(or the one at the top of my home page is illegal to it or >>something.) >> >>Thanks, >> >> - Tom >> >>_______________________________________________ >>freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org mailing list >>http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-newbies >>To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-newbies-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" >> > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-newbies > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-newbies-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > -- *--------------------------- + http://www.redhotchilli.org + http://www.wasted-darlings.com + http://webcam.istsehr.org + http://www.kirnbo.net ---------------------------* In life there are going to be some things thats going to make it hard to smile. But what ever you do, through all the rain and the pain, you got to keep your sense of humor, you got to smile for me now. REMEMBER THAT From owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jan 22 16:06:43 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 404DA16A4CE for ; Sat, 22 Jan 2005 16:06:43 +0000 (GMT) Received: from enigmedia.com (mail.enigmedia.com [207.158.46.230]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 10EF943D48 for ; Sat, 22 Jan 2005 16:06:43 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from aklist_061666@enigmedia.com) Received: from ANDREW9KNFJ0JD (68.161.247.47) by enigmedia.com with ESMTP (Eudora Internet Mail Server 3.2.6) for ; Sat, 22 Jan 2005 11:06:42 -0500 Message-ID: <026901c5009c$715f3410$0b01a8c0@enigmedia.net> From: "aklist_061666" To: References: <41F05A3D.3090504@finnovative.net><01c301c4ffb5$db1052a0$0b01a8c0@enigmedia.net> <20050121131608.4a98e572@agnes.myhome.net> Date: Sat, 22 Jan 2005 11:07:15 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 Subject: Re: keeping 5.1 install up to date? X-BeenThere: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Gathering place for new users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 22 Jan 2005 16:06:43 -0000 >> Hi All: >> >> Are there any FAQs or guides available online that explain how to keep a >> 5.1 install up to date, in terms of patching installed packages, etc.? >> Are there any utilities that can tell you if updates are available for >> installed packages? >> >> TIA, AK >> > > Yes you do that with cvsup it's not hard to set up and easy to use, it's > covered in the handbook but I don't have time right now to find just where > it's at, (on the way to work). > > Good luck and have fun. OK...trying not to be too newbie...but I proceed very slowly when it comes to this stuff. Just to confirm I'm reading everything correctly... I'm running 5.1 and CVSup is NOT already installed, so I have to: A) download and install Modula-3 compiler B) install zlib C) install CVSup or is that information outdated? Also, in the CVSup sources directory, there are several numbered sources...which one do i compile? Thanks, AK From owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jan 22 18:42:35 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 679AB16A4CE for ; Sat, 22 Jan 2005 18:42:35 +0000 (GMT) Received: from usw2.natel.net (2b.bz [209.152.117.190]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 89F9D43D49 for ; Sat, 22 Jan 2005 18:42:34 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from WD@US-Webmasters.com) Received: (qmail 34673 invoked from network); 22 Jan 2005 18:42:32 -0000 Received: from batv-01-005.dialup.netins.net (HELO Htebazile.US-Webmasters.com) (216.248.109.6) by us-webmasters.com with SMTP; 22 Jan 2005 18:42:32 -0000 Message-Id: <5.1.0.14.2.20050122124107.02abe830@209.152.117.178> X-Sender: wd@209.152.117.178 X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Sat, 22 Jan 2005 12:41:58 -0600 To: Tom Huppi From: "W. D." In-Reply-To: References: <41F221E9.3090101@gmx.at> <41F221E9.3090101@gmx.at> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable cc: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Discovered a new browser... X-BeenThere: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Gathering place for new users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 22 Jan 2005 18:42:35 -0000 At 04:15 1/22/2005, Tom Huppi wrote: >It's only been recently that I've taken an interest in seeking out >lightweight software. =20 Any other tips? Which window manager/GUI do you recommend? Start Here to Find It Fast!=99 ->= http://www.US-Webmasters.com/best-start-page/ $8.77 Domain Names -> http://domains.us-webmasters.com/ From owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jan 22 19:56:37 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CF2FA16A4CE for ; Sat, 22 Jan 2005 19:56:37 +0000 (GMT) Received: from nuumen.pair.com (nuumen.pair.com [209.68.1.119]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 558A643D2F for ; Sat, 22 Jan 2005 19:56:37 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from thuppi@nuumen.pair.com) Received: (qmail 69667 invoked by uid 55300); 22 Jan 2005 19:56:37 -0000 Date: Sat, 22 Jan 2005 14:56:37 -0500 (EST) From: Tom Huppi X-X-Sender: thuppi@nuumen.pair.com To: "W. D." In-Reply-To: <5.1.0.14.2.20050122124107.02abe830@209.152.117.178> Message-ID: References: <41F221E9.3090101@gmx.at> <5.1.0.14.2.20050122124107.02abe830@209.152.117.178> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII cc: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Discovered a new browser... X-BeenThere: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Gathering place for new users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 22 Jan 2005 19:56:37 -0000 On Sat, 22 Jan 2005, W. D. wrote: > At 04:15 1/22/2005, Tom Huppi wrote: > >It's only been recently that I've taken an interest in seeking out > >lightweight software. > > Any other tips? Which window manager/GUI do you recommend? Unfortunately, no. I've only recently taken to researching this problem and have no first-hand experience with any of the tools I've run across. I've always used 'fvwm2' since that's what I set up on my first FreeBSD box circa '98 and it's served my needs in this area fine. My needs are, however, limited. I'm more comfortable starting the applications I need from an xterm, and indeed, I spend quite a lot of time in an xterm doing one thing or another. I suspect that 'fvwm2' fits into the 'lightweight' category, but it's by happenstance. It seems that many of the Linux distributions which aim to conquer the problem of running well on dated hardware choose IceWM (iirc.) Anyone else have any tips or thoughts? I notice 'firefox' is happy to gobble down 50M and often significantly more with Xorg similar on my 5.3 system. It is very fortunate that FreeBSD's VM subsystem is intelligent enough to adapt else I am certain I would be having a lot more swapping on the box I'm currently using. I'm wondering if either of these applications themselves are 'smart' enough to adapt a bit to limited resources, or if there are any ways to build them specially to be a bit lighter. Thanks, - Tom From owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jan 22 20:45:09 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3B04116A4CE for ; Sat, 22 Jan 2005 20:45:09 +0000 (GMT) Received: from pd3mo2so.prod.shaw.ca (shawidc-mo1.cg.shawcable.net [24.71.223.10]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F114643D2D for ; Sat, 22 Jan 2005 20:45:08 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from flowers@users.sourceforge.net) Received: from pd4mr8so.prod.shaw.ca (pd4mr8so-qfe3.prod.shaw.ca [10.0.141.101]) by l-daemon (Sun ONE Messaging Server 6.0 HotFix 1.01 (built Mar 15 2004)) with ESMTP id <0IAQ00ELQKB8L300@l-daemon> for freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org; Sat, 22 Jan 2005 13:45:08 -0700 (MST) Received: from pn2ml2so.prod.shaw.ca ([10.0.121.146]) by pd4mr8so.prod.shaw.ca (Sun ONE Messaging Server 6.0 HotFix 1.01 (built Mar 15 2004)) with ESMTP id <0IAQ004EGKB8K780@pd4mr8so.prod.shaw.ca> for freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org; Sat, 22 Jan 2005 13:45:08 -0700 (MST) Received: from procyon.nekulturny.org (S0106000c41b2b9a3.cg.shawcable.net [68.144.45.143]) by l-daemon (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.18 (built Jul 28 2003)) with ESMTP id <0IAQ00L5FKB8SL@l-daemon> for freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org; Sat, 22 Jan 2005 13:45:08 -0700 (MST) Date: Sat, 22 Jan 2005 13:45:08 -0700 From: Danny MacMillan In-reply-to: <026901c5009c$715f3410$0b01a8c0@enigmedia.net> To: aklist_061666 Message-id: <20050122204508.GA1163@procyon.nekulturny.org> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-disposition: inline References: <20050121131608.4a98e572@agnes.myhome.net> <026901c5009c$715f3410$0b01a8c0@enigmedia.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.6i cc: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Subject: Re: keeping 5.1 install up to date? X-BeenThere: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Gathering place for new users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 22 Jan 2005 20:45:09 -0000 On Sat, Jan 22, 2005 at 11:07:15AM -0500, aklist_061666 wrote: > > OK...trying not to be too newbie...but I proceed very slowly when it comes > to this stuff. Just to confirm I'm reading everything correctly... > > I'm running 5.1 and CVSup is NOT already installed, so I have to: > > A) download and install Modula-3 compiler > B) install zlib > C) install CVSup > > or is that information outdated? Also, in the CVSup sources directory, > there are several numbered sources...which one do i compile? Ordinarily, CVSUp is one of the few packaged binaries I install on my system, since there's a chicken and egg problem. I usually build from source after updating the source, but I don't start that way. Even if you were to build CVSUp from source, I wouldn't recommend the above procedure, unless you plan to use the ports/packages system but didn't mention that in your post. Assuming you have an internet connection, the simplest way to install CVSUp is (line 2 may wrap): 1. su 2. pkg_add ftp://ftp.FreeBSD.org/pub/FreeBSD/ports/i386/packages-5.3-release/net/cvsup-without-gui-16.1h.tbz I know you say you're running 5.1. The 5.1 packages are no longer maintained, at least on the master site. The above works for me, though I'm using 5.2.1-RELEASE on this machine, and I think it will work for you, too. You don't need to install Modula-3 to install or run CVSUp, only to build it. If you have the ports tree installed and you want to build from source, you can alternatively do this, but it will take much longer: 1. su 2. cd /usr/ports/net/cvsup-without-gui 3. make install clean It will automatically build dependencies (ezm3 etc.) If you want to build from source but don't want to use the ports tree, you are not a newbie :) -- Danny From owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jan 22 20:49:55 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 79B6116A4CE for ; Sat, 22 Jan 2005 20:49:55 +0000 (GMT) Received: from pd3mo3so.prod.shaw.ca (shawidc-mo1.cg.shawcable.net [24.71.223.10]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3976443D41 for ; Sat, 22 Jan 2005 20:49:55 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from flowers@users.sourceforge.net) Received: from pd4mr7so.prod.shaw.ca (pd4mr7so-qfe3.prod.shaw.ca [10.0.141.84])2004))freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org; Sat, 22 Jan 2005 13:49:54 -0700 (MST) Received: from pn2ml2so.prod.shaw.ca ([10.0.121.146]) by pd4mr7so.prod.shaw.ca (Sun ONE Messaging Server 6.0 HotFix 1.01 (built Mar 15 2004)) with ESMTP id <0IAQ00KTHKJ6QAF0@pd4mr7so.prod.shaw.ca> for freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org; Sat, 22 Jan 2005 13:49:54 -0700 (MST) Received: from procyon.nekulturny.org (S0106000c41b2b9a3.cg.shawcable.net [68.144.45.143]) by l-daemon (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.18 (built Jul 28 2003)) with ESMTP id <0IAQ0071KKJ6K5@l-daemon> for freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org; Sat, 22 Jan 2005 13:49:54 -0700 (MST) Date: Sat, 22 Jan 2005 13:49:54 -0700 From: Danny MacMillan In-reply-to: To: Jo Bailey Message-id: <20050122204954.GB1163@procyon.nekulturny.org> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-disposition: inline References: User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.6i cc: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FAILURE - WRITE_DMA timed out X-BeenThere: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Gathering place for new users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 22 Jan 2005 20:49:55 -0000 On Sat, Jan 22, 2005 at 10:15:47PM +1100, Jo Bailey wrote: > I'm getting the following timeout messages, I've copied the interesting > dmesg output below. Has anyone got any suggestions on what is causing this > or point me in the right direction? > > The hardware is a standard Acer Altos R310. > > acpi_cpu: throttling enabled, 8 steps (100% to 12.5%), currently 100.0% > acd0: CDROM at ata0-master UDMA33 > ad2: 76319MB [155061/16/63] at ata1-master SATA150 > Mounting root from ufs:/dev/ad2s1a > em0: Link is up 100 Mbps Full Duplex > ad2: TIMEOUT - WRITE_DMA retrying (2 retries left) LBA=9611455 > ad2: FAILURE - WRITE_DMA timed out > ad2: TIMEOUT - WRITE_DMA retrying (2 retries left) LBA=9627231 > ad2: FAILURE - WRITE_DMA timed out > ad2: TIMEOUT - WRITE_DMA retrying (2 retries left) LBA=5095231 > ad2: FAILURE - WRITE_DMA timed out > ad2: TIMEOUT - WRITE_DMA retrying (2 retries left) LBA=9611455 > ad2: FAILURE - WRITE_DMA timed out > ad2: TIMEOUT - WRITE_DMA retrying (2 retries left) LBA=5095231 > ad2: FAILURE - WRITE_DMA timed out > ad2: TIMEOUT - WRITE_DMA retrying (2 retries left) LBA=9625791 > ad2: FAILURE - WRITE_DMA timed out > ad2: TIMEOUT - WRITE_DMA retrying (2 retries left) LBA=9611267 > ad2: FAILURE - WRITE_DMA timed out > ad2: TIMEOUT - WRITE_DMA retrying (2 retries left) LBA=9611455 > ad2: FAILURE - WRITE_DMA timed out > ad2: TIMEOUT - WRITE_DMA retrying (2 retries left) LBA=9627327 > ad2: FAILURE - WRITE_DMA timed out There's been a lot of traffic on this in -questions@ lately; searching the archives should stand you in good stead. -- Danny