From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jul 3 00:00:45 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1FADB16A41C for ; Sun, 3 Jul 2005 00:00:45 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from gayn.winters@mail.bristolsystems.com) Received: from dns.bristolsystems.com (h-68-167-239-98.lsanca54.covad.net [68.167.239.98]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E57B943D48 for ; Sun, 3 Jul 2005 00:00:44 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from gayn.winters@mail.bristolsystems.com) Received: from workdog ([192.168.1.201]) by dns.bristolsystems.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id j6300ig26493; Sat, 2 Jul 2005 17:00:44 -0700 From: "Gayn Winters" To: "'Ted Mittelstaedt'" , "'Olga Zenkova'" , Date: Sat, 2 Jul 2005 17:00:39 -0700 Message-ID: <004801c57f62$3fdbd020$c901a8c0@workdog> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.4024 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 In-Reply-To: Importance: Normal Cc: Subject: RE: integrated SATA RAID controller on Intel server board SE7520bd2 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 03 Jul 2005 00:00:45 -0000 http://www.freebsd.org/news/status/report-jan-2005-mar-2005.html#Status- Report-for-FreeBSD-ATA-driver-project (Latest official status on mk3) > -----Original Message----- > From: Ted Mittelstaedt [mailto:tedm@toybox.placo.com] > Sent: Saturday, July 02, 2005 3:00 PM > To: Gayn Winters; 'Olga Zenkova'; freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > Subject: RE: integrated SATA RAID controller on Intel server > board SE7520bd2 > > > > What and where are the mk3 patches? Mystery Keyboard version 3? > > Ted > > >-----Original Message----- > >From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > >[mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]On Behalf Of Gayn Winters > >Sent: Saturday, July 02, 2005 9:02 AM > >To: 'Olga Zenkova'; freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > >Subject: RE: integrated SATA RAID controller on Intel server board > >SE7520bd2 > > > > > >Olga, > > > >I'm afraid you are ALMOST out of luck. The 7520 chipset contains the > >ICH5R controller. To support RAID1, the ata driver needs the mk3 > >patches, which are not in 5.4-RELEASE. You can, as you suggest, > >implement RAID1 in software. There are several postings on > this topic. > >You could also add a RAID controller card. There are many > postings on > >this as well, but if you want an all-Intel configuration, Intel's > >website lists two compatible Intel RAID boards. > > > >-gayn > > > >> -----Original Message----- > >> From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > >> [mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org] On Behalf Of > Olga Zenkova > >> Sent: Friday, July 01, 2005 8:25 PM > >> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > >> Subject: integrated SATA RAID controller on Intel server > >> board SE7520bd2 > >> > >> > >> Hi! > >> I have Intel server board SE7520bd2 with integrated > >> SATA RAID controller on it and two hard drives that > >> are already configured as RAID 1 (mirror) via BIOS. > >> > >> When I trying to install FreeBSD 5.4 it doesn't see my > >> RAID 1, but sees two individual disks. What can I do? > >> Does it mean that FreeBSD 5.4 does not have the needed > >> driver and all I can do is to configure software RAID? > >> > >> Thanks, > >> Olga > >> > >> __________________________________________________ > >> Do You Yahoo!? > >> Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around > >> http://mail.yahoo.com > >> _______________________________________________ > >> freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > >> http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > >> To unsubscribe, send any mail to > >> "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > >> > > > > > >_______________________________________________ > >freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > >http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > >To unsubscribe, send any mail to > >"freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jul 3 00:00:51 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A311D16A430 for ; Sun, 3 Jul 2005 00:00:51 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from paulh@bdug.org.au) Received: from mail.bdug.org.au (mail.bdug.org.au [202.72.170.31]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C935B43D48 for ; Sun, 3 Jul 2005 00:00:50 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from paulh@bdug.org.au) Received: from w2k2 (unknown [192.168.0.102]) by mail.bdug.org.au (Postfix) with ESMTP id EF81C1E; Sun, 3 Jul 2005 08:00:18 +0800 (WST) From: "Paul Hamilton" To: "'Andreas Rudisch'" <"cyb."@gmx.net> Date: Sun, 3 Jul 2005 08:03:38 +0800 Message-ID: <001901c57f62$a9da8480$6600a8c0@w2k2> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.6626 In-Reply-To: <1120332566.1936.16.camel@p4-3200.local> Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1441 Cc: 'Freebsd-Questions' Subject: RE: Anyone running FreeBSD 4.x or 5.x on a 'VIA EPIA PD' mini-ITX X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 03 Jul 2005 00:00:51 -0000 Cool! Thanks Andreas. I am thinking of using one for the same thing. Cheers, Paul -----Original Message----- From: Andreas Rudisch [mailto:"cyb."@gmx.net]=20 Sent: Sunday, 3 July 2005 3:29 AM To: Paul Hamilton Cc: 'Freebsd-Questions' Subject: Re: Anyone running FreeBSD 4.x or 5.x on a 'VIA EPIA PD' = mini-ITX On Sat, 2005-07-02 at 18:24 +0800, Paul Hamilton wrote: > Hi, > =20 > Anyone running FreeBSD 4.x or 5.x on a 'VIA EPIA PD' mini-ITX > =20 > I would be interested to see if you get the full chipset=20 > functionality, ie. both NIC's, IDE HD, VGA (X-Windows or just CLI),=20 > Audio, USB? How about the Digital IO section? > =20 > They look very nice :-) > =20 > http://www.viaembedded.com/product/4/8/epia_pdh.jpg > =20 > Cheers, > =20 > Paul Hamilton Hi Paul,=20 I use a VIA EPIA PD-10000 as a small dsl- router / ftp / print / whatever-server for my LAN here at home running FreeBSD 5.4. The NICs, = HDD, USB, CLI work fine. Audio and X-Windows should work too. (I have only = tested this on an EPIA M-10000, but there it worked without any problems. The onboard graphic chip is fast enough for most 2D application, but it was = to slow for me to playback xvid/divx, but an additional PCI graphic card = should solve this problem.) When transfering data via ftp I get about 10MB/s up/down. Make buildworld takes about two hours. All in all, it is a nice system and fits my needs. I like it. Andreas --=20 GnuPG key : 0xD25FCC81 | http://cyb.websimplex.de/pubkey.asc Fingerprint: D182 6F22 7EEC DD4C 0F6E 564C 691B 0372 D25F CC81 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jul 3 00:03:20 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DF63D16A41C for ; Sun, 3 Jul 2005 00:03:20 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from dan@dan.emsphone.com) Received: from dan.emsphone.com (dan.emsphone.com [199.67.51.101]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A174F43D1F for ; Sun, 3 Jul 2005 00:03:20 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from dan@dan.emsphone.com) Received: (from dan@localhost) by dan.emsphone.com (8.13.1/8.13.3) id j6303Hut059034; Sat, 2 Jul 2005 19:03:17 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from dan) Date: Sat, 2 Jul 2005 19:03:17 -0500 From: Dan Nelson To: Doug Poland Message-ID: <20050703000317.GP2392@dan.emsphone.com> References: <56241.209.103.198.74.1120249277.squirrel@email.polands.org> <20050701221803.GO2392@dan.emsphone.com> <20050702160424.GA67915@polands.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20050702160424.GA67915@polands.org> X-OS: FreeBSD 5.4-STABLE X-message-flag: Outlook Error User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.9i Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Lock down device name for USB drive X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 03 Jul 2005 00:03:21 -0000 In the last episode (Jul 02), Doug Poland said: > On Fri, Jul 01, 2005 at 05:18:04PM -0500, Dan Nelson wrote: > > In the last episode (Jul 01), Doug Poland said: > > > I'm trying to use the automounter to mount a USB thumbdrive on > > > -STABLE. The only problem I'm having is that, between reboots, the > > > name of the device changes between da0s1 and da1s1. Is there a > > > way to lock down the device name so it doesn't change? > > > > Depends on what you want to lock down. If you only want a > > particular thumbdrive to be mounted, you can give it a label and > > use geom_label to provide a /dev/msdosfs/mylabel node. If you > > always want the first usb drive plugged in to be mounted, you can > > wire down umass and the device to always appear at the same scbus# > > and da# numbers, by adding something like this to loader.conf: > > Thanks for the info. This particular box has an internal IDE Zip > drive as well. I noticed when I added device atapicam to the kernel, > then the Zip drive shows up as /dev/da* . That is complicating > things as sometimes either the Zip drive or the USB drive may or may > not be plugged in when the machine reboots. > > I've read man loader.conf and man device hints and I'm a little fuzzy > on how the hints work in loader.conf. > > If I want the Zip drive to always be da0 (here's dmesg from a recent boot) > Jul 2 10:29:45 couillard kernel: da0 at ata1 bus 0 target 1 lun 0 > > Then loader.conf should have: > hint.ata1.0.at="ata1" > hint.da.0.at="ata1" > hint.da.0.target="1" > hint.da.0.unit="0" "da#" devices always attach to "scbus#" devices, which in turn attach to "ata#" devices. The extra layer is important so you can represent all the busses of a multi-channel SCSI adapter. "camcontrol devlist -v" is the best way I've found to list what attaches to what. > And I want the USB drive to be da1 (snip from dmesg again) > Jul 2 10:30:26 couillard kernel: umass0: PNY USB DISK 20X, rev 2.00/1.00, addr 2 > Jul 2 10:30:27 couillard kernel: da1 at umass-sim0 bus 0 target 0 lun 0 > > And loader.conf should read: > hint.scbus.0.at="umass0" > hint.da.0.at="scbus0" > hint.da.0.target="0" > hint.da.0.unit="0" > > Unfortunately, when I reboot, I get the Zip drive at da1 and the > Thumbdrive at da2! What am I doing wrong? First, you don't want two sets of da0 hints :) This should work: hint.scbus.0.at="ata1" hint.da.0.at="scbus0" hint.da.0.target="1" hint.da.0.unit="0" hint.scbus.1.at="umass0" hint.da.1.at="scbus1" hint.da.1.target="0" hint.da.1.unit="0" -- Dan Nelson dnelson@allantgroup.com From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jul 3 00:10:27 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5212E16A42F; Sun, 3 Jul 2005 00:10:27 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ps@mu.org) Received: from elvis.mu.org (elvis.mu.org [192.203.228.196]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0ED3443E37; Sun, 3 Jul 2005 00:08:49 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ps@mu.org) Received: by elvis.mu.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 823A25DCAC; Sat, 2 Jul 2005 17:07:57 -0700 (PDT) X-Original-To: ps@mu.org Delivered-To: ps@mu.org Received: from mx2.freebsd.org (mx2.freebsd.org [216.136.204.119]) by elvis.mu.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 03A7E5C913 for ; Thu, 23 Dec 2004 08:27:48 -0800 (PST) Received: from hub.freebsd.org (hub.freebsd.org [216.136.204.18]) by mx2.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EAAEC56FEC; Thu, 23 Dec 2004 16:27:06 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-arch@freebsd.org) Received: from hub.freebsd.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 49EED16A53E; Thu, 23 Dec 2004 16:26:55 +0000 (GMT) Delivered-To: freebsd-arch@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2B59916A4CE; Thu, 23 Dec 2004 16:26:38 +0000 (GMT) Received: from pooker.samsco.org (pooker.samsco.org [168.103.85.57]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4B71043D1F; Thu, 23 Dec 2004 16:26:37 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from scottl@freebsd.org) Received: from [192.168.254.11] (junior-wifi.samsco.home [192.168.254.11]) (authenticated bits=0) by pooker.samsco.org (8.12.11/8.12.10) with ESMTP id iBNGUErP089435; Thu, 23 Dec 2004 09:30:15 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from scottl@freebsd.org) Message-ID: <41CAF174.4020309@freebsd.org> From: Scott Long User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.7.2) Gecko/20040929 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: jsha References: <20041223112731.GA32750@ninja.terrabionic.com> In-Reply-To: <20041223112731.GA32750@ninja.terrabionic.com> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.86.1.0 X-Enigmail-Supports: pgp-inline, pgp-mime Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-arch@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Sender: owner-freebsd-arch@freebsd.org Errors-To: owner-freebsd-arch@freebsd.org X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.0.1 (2004-10-22) on elvis.mu.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.6 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=3.0.1 X-Spam-Level: Cc: freebsd-www@freebsd.org, freebsd-arch@freebsd.org, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD's Visual Identity: Outdated? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Date: Sun, 03 Jul 2005 00:10:28 -0000 X-Original-Date: Thu, 23 Dec 2004 09:25:24 -0700 X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 03 Jul 2005 00:10:28 -0000 jsha wrote: > Hello. > > I am writing this e-mail hoping that someone will share my thoughts > on how the world's best operating system should represent its attributes > and users to the rest of the world. > > Being an architect as well as graphic designer, I feel it is about time > for a complete revamp of the visual aesthetics of the FreeBSD project. > The current logo and everything pertaining to it has long since lost its > modern touch. I believe that if this image is strenghtened, so is the > way outsiders view the FreeBSD project and the way they would judge it > compared to other open source operating systems. > > 1. Not only is the logo misleading (associating evil) but it also looks > like something 10-year-olds could produce in Paint Shop Pro ten years > ago. OpenBSD has an artistic touch to theirs, however I was very > disappointed when I heard that the new NetBSD logo was in effect. > > 2. If it wasn't for the interesting content and structure of the FreeBSD > website, it would be among the less beautiful. Yes, it serves its > purpose well by being simple and straight to the point. But a redesign > could offer just the same -- simplicity and accuracy -- without being > ugly. > > 3. The installation, even though it's text-only, could also be improved > by simple restructuring to act more cognitive and human-centered than > previously. Everything pertaining to the eye is important to improve. > > 4. There should be some kind of FreeBSD business card and letterhead > available to all that support this project. > > How do I know though, that if I manage to pull together a team to work > on this refined vision, that we won't be totally ignored even though we > produce the most magnificent result? > > Anyone that are interested, please reply ;-) > > Sincerely, > Johann Manaf Tepstad > -- > j. > If you have the time, desire, and talent to address these issues, I'd love to see the results. I'd caution about being inflamatory in your first statement, though. The logo was definitely not done by a 10 yr old with PSPro, and it has emotional significance to many people. I'd definitely like to see what your ideas are for a replacement. Scott _______________________________________________ freebsd-arch@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-arch To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-arch-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jul 3 00:10:28 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BCB0816A430; Sun, 3 Jul 2005 00:10:27 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ps@mu.org) Received: from elvis.mu.org (elvis.mu.org [192.203.228.196]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B6F7643D86; Sun, 3 Jul 2005 00:08:48 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ps@mu.org) Received: by elvis.mu.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 499C75DCA5; Sat, 2 Jul 2005 17:07:57 -0700 (PDT) X-Original-To: ps@mu.org Delivered-To: ps@mu.org Received: from mx2.freebsd.org (mx2.freebsd.org [216.136.204.119]) by elvis.mu.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BE76F5C991 for ; Thu, 23 Dec 2004 08:38:53 -0800 (PST) Received: from hub.freebsd.org (hub.freebsd.org [216.136.204.18]) by mx2.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D706256F73; Thu, 23 Dec 2004 16:38:12 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-arch@freebsd.org) Received: from hub.freebsd.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3408B16A534; Thu, 23 Dec 2004 16:38:04 +0000 (GMT) Delivered-To: freebsd-arch@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 54CBA16A4CE; Thu, 23 Dec 2004 16:37:53 +0000 (GMT) Received: from nic-naa.net (nic-naa.net [216.220.241.233]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C2F4843D5A; Thu, 23 Dec 2004 16:37:52 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from brunner@nic-naa.net) Received: from nic-naa.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by nic-naa.net (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id iBNCcWCl004127; Thu, 23 Dec 2004 12:38:32 GMT (envelope-from brunner@nic-naa.net) Message-Id: <200412231238.iBNCcWCl004127@nic-naa.net> To: jsha In-Reply-To: Your message of "Thu, 23 Dec 2004 12:27:31 +0100." <20041223112731.GA32750@ninja.terrabionic.com> From: Eric Brunner-Williams in Portland Maine X-BeenThere: freebsd-arch@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Sender: owner-freebsd-arch@freebsd.org Errors-To: owner-freebsd-arch@freebsd.org X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.0.1 (2004-10-22) on elvis.mu.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.4 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=3.0.1 X-Spam-Level: Cc: freebsd-www@freebsd.org, freebsd-arch@freebsd.org, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org, brunner@nic-naa.net Subject: Re: FreeBSD's Visual Identity: Outdated? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Date: Sun, 03 Jul 2005 00:10:31 -0000 X-Original-Date: Thu, 23 Dec 2004 12:38:32 +0000 X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 03 Jul 2005 00:10:31 -0000 > I am writing this e-mail hoping that someone will share my thoughts > on how the world's best operating system should represent its attributes > and users to the rest of the world. representations are secondary to function. there are markets for which this relationship is inverted. cost of entry is in the mid-eight-figure range. > Being an architect as well as graphic designer, I feel it is about time > for a complete revamp of the visual aesthetics of the FreeBSD project. code is art, and feelings are nice. please fix ebcdic first. unicode too. > The current logo and everything pertaining to it has long since lost its > modern touch. I believe that if this image is strenghtened, so is the > way outsiders view the FreeBSD project and the way they would judge it > compared to other open source operating systems. modernity is overrated. > 1. Not only is the logo misleading (associating evil) but it also looks dumb. > like something 10-year-olds could produce in Paint Shop Pro ten years > ago. OpenBSD has an artistic touch to theirs, however I was very > disappointed when I heard that the new NetBSD logo was in effect. who, other than you, cares? > 2. If it wasn't for the interesting content and structure of the FreeBSD > website, it would be among the less beautiful. Yes, it serves its > purpose well by being simple and straight to the point. But a redesign > could offer just the same -- simplicity and accuracy -- without being > ugly. break your own website please. > 3. The installation, even though it's text-only, could also be improved > by simple restructuring to act more cognitive and human-centered than > previously. Everything pertaining to the eye is important to improve. break your own loader please. > 4. There should be some kind of FreeBSD business card and letterhead > available to all that support this project. if i give you one will you agree to do something useful? > How do I know though, that if I manage to pull together a team to work > on this refined vision, that we won't be totally ignored even though we > produce the most magnificent result? most likely. its troll's fate. _______________________________________________ freebsd-arch@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-arch To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-arch-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jul 3 00:10:31 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A0C1F16A43D; Sun, 3 Jul 2005 00:10:27 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ps@mu.org) Received: from elvis.mu.org (elvis.mu.org [192.203.228.196]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7314F43E34; Sun, 3 Jul 2005 00:08:48 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ps@mu.org) Received: by elvis.mu.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 2583C5DC9F; Sat, 2 Jul 2005 17:07:57 -0700 (PDT) X-Original-To: ps@mu.org Delivered-To: ps@mu.org Received: from mx2.freebsd.org (mx2.freebsd.org [216.136.204.119]) by elvis.mu.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EAA205C991 for ; Thu, 23 Dec 2004 08:49:44 -0800 (PST) Received: from hub.freebsd.org (hub.freebsd.org [216.136.204.18]) by mx2.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9EDF356FFB; Thu, 23 Dec 2004 16:49:36 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-arch@freebsd.org) Received: from hub.freebsd.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BAF6816A4E5; Thu, 23 Dec 2004 16:49:29 +0000 (GMT) Delivered-To: freebsd-arch@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 12E7116A4CE; Thu, 23 Dec 2004 16:48:51 +0000 (GMT) Received: from asmtp04.eresmas.com (asmtp04.eresmas.com [62.81.235.144]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5D29F43D45; Thu, 23 Dec 2004 16:48:50 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ea1abz@wanadoo.es) Received: from [192.168.108.59] (helo=mx01.eresmas.com) by asmtp04.eresmas.com with esmtp (Exim 4.30) id 1ChW8t-0001PO-BR; Thu, 23 Dec 2004 17:48:47 +0100 Received: from [80.103.47.197] (helo=[80.103.47.197]) by mx01.eresmas.com with asmtp (Exim 4.41) id 1ChW8l-0006ML-8q; Thu, 23 Dec 2004 17:48:46 +0100 Message-ID: <41CAF6F6.9070208@wanadoo.es> From: Ramiro Aceves User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 0.8 (X11/20040926) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: jsha References: <20041223112731.GA32750@ninja.terrabionic.com> In-Reply-To: <20041223112731.GA32750@ninja.terrabionic.com> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.86.1.0 X-Enigmail-Supports: pgp-inline, pgp-mime Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-arch@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Sender: owner-freebsd-arch@freebsd.org Errors-To: owner-freebsd-arch@freebsd.org X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.0.1 (2004-10-22) on elvis.mu.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.6 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=3.0.1 X-Spam-Level: Cc: freebsd-www@freebsd.org, freebsd-arch@freebsd.org, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD's Visual Identity: Outdated? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Date: Sun, 03 Jul 2005 00:10:31 -0000 X-Original-Date: Thu, 23 Dec 2004 17:48:54 +0100 X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 03 Jul 2005 00:10:31 -0000 jsha wrote: > Hello. > > I am writing this e-mail hoping that someone will share my thoughts > on how the world's best operating system should represent its attributes > and users to the rest of the world. I am new to FreeBSD, only one month of use or so. I come from Debian GNU/Linux world and only want to say some toughts: > > Being an architect as well as graphic designer, I feel it is about time > for a complete revamp of the visual aesthetics of the FreeBSD project. > The current logo and everything pertaining to it has long since lost its > modern touch. I believe that if this image is strenghtened, so is the > way outsiders view the FreeBSD project and the way they would judge it > compared to other open source operating systems. > > 1. Not only is the logo misleading (associating evil) but it also looks > like something 10-year-olds could produce in Paint Shop Pro ten years > ago. OpenBSD has an artistic touch to theirs, however I was very > disappointed when I heard that the new NetBSD logo was in effect. I really like the devil, it is nice and pleasant for me. > > 2. If it wasn't for the interesting content and structure of the FreeBSD > website, it would be among the less beautiful. Yes, it serves its > purpose well by being simple and straight to the point. But a redesign > could offer just the same -- simplicity and accuracy -- without being > ugly. The WEB is great!, I like WEBs with no images moving around! Debian WEB (www.debian.org) and FreeBSD WEB pages are simliar in aesthetics and I feel confortable. > > 3. The installation, even though it's text-only, could also be improved > by simple restructuring to act more cognitive and human-centered than > previously. Everything pertaining to the eye is important to improve. The instalation program is reasonably good , once you do a couple of installs you can do it without thinking too much. Enjoy FreeBSD. Ramiro. _______________________________________________ freebsd-arch@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-arch To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-arch-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jul 3 00:10:32 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 37B2816A443; Sun, 3 Jul 2005 00:10:28 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ps@mu.org) Received: from elvis.mu.org (elvis.mu.org [192.203.228.196]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0687643E36; Sun, 3 Jul 2005 00:08:48 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ps@mu.org) Received: by elvis.mu.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 566755DCA7; Sat, 2 Jul 2005 17:07:57 -0700 (PDT) X-Original-To: ps@mu.org Delivered-To: ps@mu.org Received: from mx2.freebsd.org (mx2.freebsd.org [216.136.204.119]) by elvis.mu.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 420305C98A for ; Thu, 23 Dec 2004 08:47:48 -0800 (PST) Received: from hub.freebsd.org (hub.freebsd.org [216.136.204.18]) by mx2.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0038C56A6E; Thu, 23 Dec 2004 16:47:47 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-arch@freebsd.org) Received: from hub.freebsd.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 25E0B16A4D7; Thu, 23 Dec 2004 16:47:47 +0000 (GMT) Delivered-To: freebsd-arch@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 29CDC16A4CE; Thu, 23 Dec 2004 16:47:45 +0000 (GMT) Received: from pooker.samsco.org (pooker.samsco.org [168.103.85.57]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 62D0F43D31; Thu, 23 Dec 2004 16:47:44 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from scottl@freebsd.org) Received: from [192.168.254.11] (junior-wifi.samsco.home [192.168.254.11]) (authenticated bits=0) by pooker.samsco.org (8.12.11/8.12.10) with ESMTP id iBNGpEPF089509; Thu, 23 Dec 2004 09:51:14 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from scottl@freebsd.org) Message-ID: <41CAF660.6050000@freebsd.org> From: Scott Long User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.7.2) Gecko/20040929 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Sam References: <20041223112731.GA32750@ninja.terrabionic.com> <20041223133440.GC786@myrddin.originative.co.uk> In-Reply-To: X-Enigmail-Version: 0.86.1.0 X-Enigmail-Supports: pgp-inline, pgp-mime Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-arch@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Sender: owner-freebsd-arch@freebsd.org Errors-To: owner-freebsd-arch@freebsd.org X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.0.1 (2004-10-22) on elvis.mu.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.6 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=3.0.1 X-Spam-Level: Cc: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org, Daniel Blendea , freebsd-www@freebsd.org, jsha , freebsd-arch@freebsd.org, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, Paul Richards Subject: Re: FreeBSD's Visual Identity: Outdated? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Date: Sun, 03 Jul 2005 00:10:33 -0000 X-Original-Date: Thu, 23 Dec 2004 09:46:24 -0700 X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 03 Jul 2005 00:10:33 -0000 Sam wrote: >> If we want to be taken seriously in the commercial world then we >> need to have the right image. > > > Look ma, a strawman! > > The concern you're addressing is the sort of thing distros > solved in the Linux world. Each typically has their own > "image," installer, system config style, etc. More importantly > for the "commercial world," though, they offer support and > certification. > > The image alone just isn't the problem. Or a problem at all, > I'd argue. Let's be honest -- if a ten-year-old made Beastie, > then a mentally challenged 3-year-old made Tux (and large > portions of the kernel, but I digress). > > Point being Johann, if the community rejects your work > for the core project you can still make your own distro > and release it. Give it a shot! > > Cheers, > > Sam The distro - vs - core release relationship is one of BSD's greatest strengths and weaknesses. It's a strength because there is no 'distro hell' like there is in linux. When you download FreeBSD, you get the same FreeBSD as everyone else; there is no confusion over how the config files are layed out, no differences in the base utilities, everything compiles the same way, etc. That is a huge benefit. But at the same time, it makes it really hard for people to branch out and experiment in the same way that a linux distro can. FreeSBIE is a good example of this happening and working, but it definitely has hurdles. Variety and competition makes the whole stronger, and at times FreeBSD seems a bit in-bred. To address this, I'm playing with ideas for changing the nature of a FreeBSD 'release' a bit to make it easier for outfits like FreeSBIE to build on top of it. Hopefully I'll have something to show for this in 6.0. Scott _______________________________________________ freebsd-arch@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-arch To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-arch-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jul 3 00:10:35 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5106316A422; Sun, 3 Jul 2005 00:10:28 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ps@mu.org) Received: from elvis.mu.org (elvis.mu.org [192.203.228.196]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2E17843E3C; Sun, 3 Jul 2005 00:08:50 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ps@mu.org) Received: by elvis.mu.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id E70515DCBD; Sat, 2 Jul 2005 17:07:57 -0700 (PDT) X-Original-To: ps@mu.org Delivered-To: ps@mu.org Received: from mx2.freebsd.org (mx2.freebsd.org [216.136.204.119]) by elvis.mu.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 08C125C98A for ; Thu, 23 Dec 2004 05:36:05 -0800 (PST) Received: from hub.freebsd.org (hub.freebsd.org [216.136.204.18]) by mx2.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 36C8E57327; Thu, 23 Dec 2004 13:35:26 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-arch@freebsd.org) Received: from hub.freebsd.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0CFC616A51B; Thu, 23 Dec 2004 13:35:03 +0000 (GMT) Delivered-To: freebsd-arch@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4BBB216A4CE; Thu, 23 Dec 2004 13:34:54 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mx1.originative.co.uk (freebsd.gotadsl.co.uk [81.6.249.198]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C132543D31; Thu, 23 Dec 2004 13:34:53 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from paul@mx1.originative.co.uk) Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.originative.co.uk (Postfix) with ESMTP id 981CE15596; Thu, 23 Dec 2004 13:34:55 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mx1.originative.co.uk ([127.0.0.1])port 10024) with ESMTP id 85128-04; Thu, 23 Dec 2004 13:34:40 +0000 (GMT) Received: by mx1.originative.co.uk (Postfix, from userid 1000) id B5DE015639; Thu, 23 Dec 2004 13:34:40 +0000 (GMT) From: Paul Richards To: Daniel Blendea Message-ID: <20041223133440.GC786@myrddin.originative.co.uk> References: <20041223112731.GA32750@ninja.terrabionic.com> <89b41e4704122303546aaa8d83@mail.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <89b41e4704122303546aaa8d83@mail.gmail.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.6i X-BeenThere: freebsd-arch@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Sender: owner-freebsd-arch@freebsd.org Errors-To: owner-freebsd-arch@freebsd.org X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.0.1 (2004-10-22) on elvis.mu.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.8 required=5.0 tests=AWL, BAYES_00, DEAR_SOMETHING autolearn=no version=3.0.1 X-Spam-Level: Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, freebsd-www@freebsd.org, jsha , freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org, freebsd-arch@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD's Visual Identity: Outdated? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Date: Sun, 03 Jul 2005 00:10:36 -0000 X-Original-Date: Thu, 23 Dec 2004 13:34:40 +0000 X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 03 Jul 2005 00:10:36 -0000 On Thu, Dec 23, 2004 at 01:54:31PM +0200, Daniel Blendea wrote: > 1. bu**s**it, Beastie is **COOL** and would be a loss of identity if > the logo would change; > Dear Sir, please read the page where what greek daemons are explained.. Ignoring the whole beastie thing, because we've just done that whole issue, I think someone with skills other than coding taking an interest in our public image would be a good thing. >From a business perspective we look amateurish. Lots of people here don't seem to care about the outside world which reinforces the opinion that we've become a hobby OS project now. If we want to be taken seriously in the commercial world then we need to have the right image. Paul. _______________________________________________ freebsd-arch@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-arch To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-arch-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jul 3 00:10:36 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6F8DD16A448; Sun, 3 Jul 2005 00:10:28 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ps@mu.org) Received: from elvis.mu.org (elvis.mu.org [192.203.228.196]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9BCB443E35; Sun, 3 Jul 2005 00:08:48 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ps@mu.org) Received: by elvis.mu.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 3089E5DCA1; Sat, 2 Jul 2005 17:07:57 -0700 (PDT) X-Original-To: ps@mu.org Delivered-To: ps@mu.org Received: from mx2.freebsd.org (mx2.freebsd.org [216.136.204.119]) by elvis.mu.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8D73B5C994 for ; Thu, 23 Dec 2004 20:46:32 -0800 (PST) Received: from hub.freebsd.org (hub.freebsd.org [216.136.204.18]) by mx2.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4F3D8561FB; Fri, 24 Dec 2004 04:46:32 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-arch@freebsd.org) Received: from hub.freebsd.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5FF3516A4D9; Fri, 24 Dec 2004 04:46:31 +0000 (GMT) Delivered-To: freebsd-arch@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 98E1416A4CE; Fri, 24 Dec 2004 04:46:28 +0000 (GMT) Received: from sccimhc91.asp.att.net (sccimhc91.asp.att.net [63.240.76.165]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 07A4643D45; Fri, 24 Dec 2004 04:46:28 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from freebsd@nbritton.org) Received: from [192.168.1.10] (12-223-129-46.client.insightbb.com[12.223.129.46]) by sccimhc91.asp.att.net (sccimhc91) with ESMTP id <20041224044618i9100rg29me>; Fri, 24 Dec 2004 04:46:27 +0000 Message-ID: <41CB9F16.1010405@nbritton.org> From: Nikolas Britton User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (X11/20041219) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Paul Richards References: <20041223112731.GA32750@ninja.terrabionic.com> <89b41e4704122303546aaa8d83@mail.gmail.com> <20041223133440.GC786@myrddin.originative.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <20041223133440.GC786@myrddin.originative.co.uk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-arch@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Sender: owner-freebsd-arch@freebsd.org Errors-To: owner-freebsd-arch@freebsd.org X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.0.1 (2004-10-22) on elvis.mu.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.6 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=3.0.1 X-Spam-Level: Cc: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org, Daniel Blendea , freebsd-www@freebsd.org, jsha , freebsd-arch@freebsd.org, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD's Visual Identity: Outdated? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Date: Sun, 03 Jul 2005 00:10:37 -0000 X-Original-Date: Thu, 23 Dec 2004 22:46:14 -0600 X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 03 Jul 2005 00:10:37 -0000 >>From a business perspective we look amateurish. > > I REALLY REALLY agree with this point, from the prospective of an outsider the website and "Image" conveys a real lack of professionalism, which is not true. I'm looking at the start page for FreeBSD right now and here are the things I do not like about it (please don't be offended if I step on toe's and ego's, I am only trying to better FreeBSD): 1. The "FreeBSD" logo is crap, not beastie (he's a keeper!!!, I'll hunt you down and do bad things to you if you take him away!), Just the black wannabe (and badly done) 3D effect "FreeBSD" part, really, I hate it. Redo the whole logo in photoshop with a bold, antialiased modern web font: (Arial, Helvetica, Verdana, Century Gothic, etc.) and forget the whole 3D effect as that is so 90s. Generally all of your logo designs are unprofessional (the logos at the bottom of the page: FreeBSD MALL, UseNix, Daemon News, and Powered by FreeBSD for example) 2. I cringe when I see Times New Roman, again redo the whole site with a modern web font: Arial, Helvetica, Verdana, Etc. (ever here of Cascading Style Sheets?) 3. The color scheme is not "complementary" anyone who has been to art school or taken design classes will know what I talking about, read up about basic color theory here: http://www.color-wheel-pro.com/color-theory-basics.html (again, ever here of Cascading Style Sheets??) 4. I like the Beastie logo on the boot loader screen but ASCII art is unprofessional... It would be better if you made the color ASCII beastie the default. I have no real issues with the layout of the site and it would be nice if the installer was more user friendly but I am content with the way it is, maybe you should change the color scheme of the installer to match the website? Here are some example sites: http://m0n0.ch/wall/screens/system.png http://www.mozilla.org/ http://www.horde.org/logos/ http://www.xfce.org/ http://www.gnome.org/ http://www.gimp.org/ http://www.php.net/ http://freebsd.kde.org/ http://www.google.com/ http://www.apache.org/ http://www.adobe.com/ http://www.openoffice.org/ http://www.sun.com/ http://www.suse.com/ http://www.novell.com/ http://www.ibm.com/ http://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/ http://www.mysql.com/ http://cocoon.apache.org/ http://www.w3.org/ http://www.penguincomputing.com/ FreeBSD is badly in need of a PR/Design/Marketing department. _______________________________________________ freebsd-arch@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-arch To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-arch-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jul 3 00:10:37 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7C06616A44A; Sun, 3 Jul 2005 00:10:28 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ps@mu.org) Received: from elvis.mu.org (elvis.mu.org [192.203.228.196]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 13B1B43E38; Sun, 3 Jul 2005 00:08:49 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ps@mu.org) Received: by elvis.mu.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 921D25DCAF; Sat, 2 Jul 2005 17:07:57 -0700 (PDT) X-Original-To: ps@mu.org Delivered-To: ps@mu.org Received: from mx2.freebsd.org (mx2.freebsd.org [216.136.204.119]) by elvis.mu.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1441F5C9A1 for ; Thu, 23 Dec 2004 08:29:15 -0800 (PST) Received: from hub.freebsd.org (hub.freebsd.org [216.136.204.18]) by mx2.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0D23E56FA9; Thu, 23 Dec 2004 16:28:55 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-arch@freebsd.org) Received: from hub.freebsd.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5BCCC16A4CE; Thu, 23 Dec 2004 16:28:54 +0000 (GMT) Delivered-To: freebsd-arch@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6B5D316A4CE; Thu, 23 Dec 2004 16:28:50 +0000 (GMT) Received: from athena.softcardsystems.com (mail.softcardsystems.com [12.34.136.114]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E2C8C43D53; Thu, 23 Dec 2004 16:28:49 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from sah@softcardsystems.com) Received: from athena (athena [12.34.136.114])iBNHN5fX030259; Thu, 23 Dec 2004 12:23:05 -0500 From: Sam X-X-Sender: sah@athena To: Paul Richards In-Reply-To: <20041223133440.GC786@myrddin.originative.co.uk> Message-ID: References: <20041223112731.GA32750@ninja.terrabionic.com> <20041223133440.GC786@myrddin.originative.co.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-BeenThere: freebsd-arch@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Sender: owner-freebsd-arch@freebsd.org Errors-To: owner-freebsd-arch@freebsd.org X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.0.1 (2004-10-22) on elvis.mu.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.6 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=3.0.1 X-Spam-Level: Cc: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org, Daniel Blendea , freebsd-www@freebsd.org, jsha , freebsd-arch@freebsd.org, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD's Visual Identity: Outdated? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Date: Sun, 03 Jul 2005 00:10:37 -0000 X-Original-Date: Thu, 23 Dec 2004 12:23:05 -0500 (EST) X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 03 Jul 2005 00:10:37 -0000 > If we want to be taken seriously in the commercial world then we > need to have the right image. Look ma, a strawman! The concern you're addressing is the sort of thing distros solved in the Linux world. Each typically has their own "image," installer, system config style, etc. More importantly for the "commercial world," though, they offer support and certification. The image alone just isn't the problem. Or a problem at all, I'd argue. Let's be honest -- if a ten-year-old made Beastie, then a mentally challenged 3-year-old made Tux (and large portions of the kernel, but I digress). Point being Johann, if the community rejects your work for the core project you can still make your own distro and release it. Give it a shot! Cheers, Sam _______________________________________________ freebsd-arch@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-arch To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-arch-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jul 3 00:10:37 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CEED316A44F; Sun, 3 Jul 2005 00:10:28 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ps@mu.org) Received: from elvis.mu.org (elvis.mu.org [192.203.228.196]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 29D0C43E3B; Sun, 3 Jul 2005 00:08:50 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ps@mu.org) Received: by elvis.mu.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id DD7585DCBA; Sat, 2 Jul 2005 17:07:57 -0700 (PDT) X-Original-To: ps@mu.org Delivered-To: ps@mu.org Received: from mx2.freebsd.org (mx2.freebsd.org [216.136.204.119]) by elvis.mu.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A368B5C907 for ; Thu, 23 Dec 2004 04:00:13 -0800 (PST) Received: from hub.freebsd.org (hub.freebsd.org [216.136.204.18]) by mx2.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5832C57153; Thu, 23 Dec 2004 12:00:08 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-arch@freebsd.org) Received: from hub.freebsd.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 132D916A4D2; Thu, 23 Dec 2004 12:00:08 +0000 (GMT) Delivered-To: freebsd-arch@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E472C16A4D4 for ; Thu, 23 Dec 2004 11:59:32 +0000 (GMT) Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.205]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9358743D58 for ; Thu, 23 Dec 2004 11:59:31 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from simon.burke@gmail.com) Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 67so963wri for ; Thu, 23 Dec 2004 03:59:30 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:references; b=E8vkXHnY0hs/WazyQ2cIR8TY1tCZJtsplHgeHiTxfF3nndXJyEPboxs6DEnpQKw3+a/datvLGKAn5zA0oKzEY6zdx8lVLHfe6H11R44xnhBBVxDUqD7zFGrYn6GHK2YBaiRaiYz6N5Trgk3hW9hcoz6DAJGKUIFyALJBxYEtYx4= Received: by 10.54.6.55 with SMTP id 55mr5892wrf; Thu, 23 Dec 2004 03:59:30 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.54.11.57 with HTTP; Thu, 23 Dec 2004 03:59:29 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <2d7d2dd2041223035969e056d8@mail.gmail.com> From: Simon Burke In-Reply-To: <20041223112731.GA32750@ninja.terrabionic.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit References: <20041223112731.GA32750@ninja.terrabionic.com> X-BeenThere: freebsd-arch@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Sender: owner-freebsd-arch@freebsd.org Errors-To: owner-freebsd-arch@freebsd.org X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.0.1 (2004-10-22) on elvis.mu.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.5 required=5.0 tests=AWL, BAYES_00, MISSING_HEADERS, RCVD_BY_IP autolearn=ham version=3.0.1 X-Spam-Level: Cc: freebsd-www@freebsd.org, freebsd-arch@freebsd.org, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD's Visual Identity: Outdated? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Reply-To: Simon Burke List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Date: Sun, 03 Jul 2005 00:10:37 -0000 X-Original-Date: Thu, 23 Dec 2004 11:59:29 +0000 X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 03 Jul 2005 00:10:37 -0000 > > 1. Not only is the logo misleading (associating evil) but it also looks > like something 10-year-olds could produce in Paint Shop Pro ten years > ago. OpenBSD has an artistic touch to theirs, however I was very > disappointed when I heard that the new NetBSD logo was in effect. I would like to know how you assume that he is a representation of evil, ok he looks like a little devil char but there is more than one definition of a devil and besides he looks kind of cute. So the logo/mascot has been around a while but that doesnt warrant change. If it does then most companies in the world need to update their logos too. Also freebsd is an operating system, if the developers and such spent all this time maintaining its image rather than its OS then freeBSD would no longer be such a great operating system. > > 2. If it wasn't for the interesting content and structure of the FreeBSD > website, it would be among the less beautiful. Yes, it serves its > purpose well by being simple and straight to the point. But a redesign > could offer just the same -- simplicity and accuracy -- without being > ugly. Aesthetics are not everything, the web site does what its supposed to do. Also i actually like how it looks. A lot of people have strong feelings about all these all singing all dancing webistes. There is just no need. Keep it simple and easy to navigate around thats all thats really important. If the aesthetics really matter more than function to such people who use BSD then they would probably be not using BSD but either windows or linux, where you have a nice pretty GUI to look at all the nice pretty sites. > 3. The installation, even though it's text-only, could also be improved > by simple restructuring to act more cognitive and human-centered than > previously. Everything pertaining to the eye is important to improve. Granted the installer is not the best installer around, but the main point is that it does the job and it is pretty easy to follow in my opinion anyway. Also there are a couple of projects to my knowledge that are aiming to improve it. > 4. There should be some kind of FreeBSD business card and letterhead > available to all that support this project. I have to ask why? why would people need such things? that i just dont understand > How do I know though, that if I manage to pull together a team to work > on this refined vision, that we won't be totally ignored even though we > produce the most magnificent result? > > Anyone that are interested, please reply ;-) -- Theres no place like ::1 Thanks, SimonB _______________________________________________ freebsd-arch@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-arch To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-arch-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jul 3 00:10:37 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BA7E716A44D; Sun, 3 Jul 2005 00:10:28 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ps@mu.org) Received: from elvis.mu.org (elvis.mu.org [192.203.228.196]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0EE2143E4E; Sun, 3 Jul 2005 00:08:54 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ps@mu.org) Received: by elvis.mu.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 885C55DCD0; Sat, 2 Jul 2005 17:07:58 -0700 (PDT) X-Original-To: ps@mu.org Delivered-To: ps@mu.org Received: from mx2.freebsd.org (mx2.freebsd.org [216.136.204.119]) by elvis.mu.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 76C5D5C992 for ; Thu, 23 Dec 2004 22:48:05 -0800 (PST) Received: from hub.freebsd.org (hub.freebsd.org [216.136.204.18]) by mx2.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 085CE55D32; Fri, 24 Dec 2004 06:48:05 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-arch@freebsd.org) Received: from hub.freebsd.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 65E8416A4D2; Fri, 24 Dec 2004 06:48:04 +0000 (GMT) Delivered-To: freebsd-arch@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3262316A4CE; Fri, 24 Dec 2004 06:48:02 +0000 (GMT) Received: from sccimhc91.asp.att.net (sccimhc91.asp.att.net [63.240.76.165]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9F55A43D1D; Fri, 24 Dec 2004 06:48:01 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from freebsd@nbritton.org) Received: from [192.168.1.10] (12-223-129-46.client.insightbb.com[12.223.129.46]) by sccimhc91.asp.att.net (sccimhc91) with ESMTP id <20041224064759i9100rfo80e>; Fri, 24 Dec 2004 06:48:01 +0000 Message-ID: <41CBBB9A.5000001@nbritton.org> From: Nikolas Britton User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (X11/20041219) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: John-Mark Gurney References: <20041223112731.GA32750@ninja.terrabionic.com> <89b41e4704122303546aaa8d83@mail.gmail.com> <20041223133440.GC786@myrddin.originative.co.uk> <41CB9F16.1010405@nbritton.org> <20041224054000.GL19624@funkthat.com> In-Reply-To: <20041224054000.GL19624@funkthat.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-arch@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Sender: owner-freebsd-arch@freebsd.org Errors-To: owner-freebsd-arch@freebsd.org X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.0.1 (2004-10-22) on elvis.mu.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.6 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=3.0.1 X-Spam-Level: Cc: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org, Daniel Blendea , freebsd-www@freebsd.org, jsha , freebsd-arch@freebsd.org, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, Paul Richards Subject: Re: FreeBSD's Visual Identity: Outdated? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Date: Sun, 03 Jul 2005 00:10:38 -0000 X-Original-Date: Fri, 24 Dec 2004 00:47:54 -0600 X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 03 Jul 2005 00:10:38 -0000 John-Mark Gurney wrote: >Nikolas Britton wrote this message on Thu, Dec 23, 2004 at 22:46 -0600: > > >>2. I cringe when I see Times New Roman, again redo the whole site with a >>modern web font: Arial, Helvetica, Verdana, Etc. (ever here of Cascading >>Style Sheets?) >> >> > >you mean a sans-serif font? yes, most computer display fonts should >be sans-serif since the screen resolution does not always allow you to >do that... (and Helvetica isn't that modern, about 50 years old now >it appears)... > > Yes >As for CSS, it appears that we do use CSS on the site: > > >And part of CSS is letting people choose what font they want to display >the site in... It appears at least Mozilla chooses Times by default... >So I'd more complain to the browers that display with the default font.. > > > learn something new everyday, thanks for the tip. _______________________________________________ freebsd-arch@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-arch To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-arch-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jul 3 00:10:38 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1ED6516A459; Sun, 3 Jul 2005 00:10:29 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ps@mu.org) Received: from elvis.mu.org (elvis.mu.org [192.203.228.196]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2BC9343E4C; Sun, 3 Jul 2005 00:08:54 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ps@mu.org) Received: by elvis.mu.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 7CEC35DCCE; Sat, 2 Jul 2005 17:07:58 -0700 (PDT) X-Original-To: ps@mu.org Delivered-To: ps@mu.org Received: from mx2.freebsd.org (mx2.freebsd.org [216.136.204.119]) by elvis.mu.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CC7495C994 for ; Thu, 23 Dec 2004 23:21:02 -0800 (PST) Received: from hub.freebsd.org (hub.freebsd.org [216.136.204.18]) by mx2.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0862955BB1; Fri, 24 Dec 2004 07:21:02 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-arch@freebsd.org) Received: from hub.freebsd.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8022716A4D5; Fri, 24 Dec 2004 07:21:01 +0000 (GMT) Delivered-To: freebsd-arch@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 939BA16A4CE; Fri, 24 Dec 2004 07:20:58 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com (mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [65.75.192.90]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F374943D2D; Fri, 24 Dec 2004 07:20:57 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) Received: from tedwin2k (nat-rtr.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [65.75.197.130]) iBO7Kkv63386; Thu, 23 Dec 2004 23:20:46 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) From: "Ted Mittelstaedt" To: "Nikolas Britton" , "Chris" Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.6604 (9.0.2911.0) In-Reply-To: <41CBB299.4020707@nbritton.org> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1441 Importance: Normal X-BeenThere: freebsd-arch@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Sender: owner-freebsd-arch@freebsd.org Errors-To: owner-freebsd-arch@freebsd.org X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.0.1 (2004-10-22) on elvis.mu.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.6 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=3.0.1 X-Spam-Level: Cc: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org, Daniel Blendea , freebsd-www@freebsd.org, jsha , freebsd-arch@freebsd.org, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, Paul Richards Subject: RE: FreeBSD's Visual Identity: Outdated? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Date: Sun, 03 Jul 2005 00:10:39 -0000 X-Original-Date: Thu, 23 Dec 2004 23:20:46 -0800 X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 03 Jul 2005 00:10:39 -0000 > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > [mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]On Behalf Of Nikolas Britton > Sent: Thursday, December 23, 2004 10:09 PM > To: Chris > > > > Maybe you can start, The Queer-Eye for the BSD-Guy. > > If thats what it takes to get FreeBSD out of obscurity and into the > enterprise then yes I will, just look at what apple did with BSD and > mozilla did with firefox, I don't want to see FreeBSD (or the other > BSDs) die into obscurity as I really like them. > I think there's more FreeBSD installations than Apple installations, way, way more. Obscurity is in the eye of the beholder. And talk is cheap. The FreeBSD documentation team has already asked the FreeBSD community to do a site redesign, see here: http://www.freebsd.org/docproj/current.html#website-css Nobody has stepped up to do it. Since your so hot to redesign the site why don't you e-mail them and get going on doing it instead of talking about it? Ted _______________________________________________ freebsd-arch@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-arch To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-arch-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jul 3 00:10:40 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 22FB716A435; Sun, 3 Jul 2005 00:10:29 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ps@mu.org) Received: from elvis.mu.org (elvis.mu.org [192.203.228.196]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 241A143E51; Sun, 3 Jul 2005 00:08:55 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ps@mu.org) Received: by elvis.mu.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id B15775DCD8; Sat, 2 Jul 2005 17:07:58 -0700 (PDT) X-Original-To: ps@mu.org Delivered-To: ps@mu.org Received: from mx2.freebsd.org (mx2.freebsd.org [216.136.204.119]) by elvis.mu.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9EA345C99C for ; Thu, 23 Dec 2004 21:40:18 -0800 (PST) Received: from hub.freebsd.org (hub.freebsd.org [216.136.204.18]) by mx2.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 59D945678D; Fri, 24 Dec 2004 05:40:08 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-arch@freebsd.org) Received: from hub.freebsd.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BF25D16A4D5; Fri, 24 Dec 2004 05:40:07 +0000 (GMT) Delivered-To: freebsd-arch@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DB9EE16A4CE for ; Fri, 24 Dec 2004 05:40:05 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mail6.speakeasy.net (mail6.speakeasy.net [216.254.0.206]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6A30343D4C for ; Fri, 24 Dec 2004 05:40:05 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jmg@hydrogen.funkthat.com) Received: (qmail 6709 invoked from network); 24 Dec 2004 05:40:05 -0000 Received: from gate.funkthat.com (HELO hydrogen.funkthat.com) ([69.17.45.168]) (envelope-sender ) by mail6.speakeasy.net (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for ; 24 Dec 2004 05:40:05 -0000 Received: from hydrogen.funkthat.com (kjofyb@localhost.funkthat.com [127.0.0.1])iBO5e2GH065965; Thu, 23 Dec 2004 21:40:02 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jmg@hydrogen.funkthat.com) Received: (from jmg@localhost) by hydrogen.funkthat.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/Submit) id iBO5e0MG065948; Thu, 23 Dec 2004 21:40:00 -0800 (PST) From: John-Mark Gurney To: Nikolas Britton Message-ID: <20041224054000.GL19624@funkthat.com> Mail-Followup-To: Nikolas Britton , Paul Richards , freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org, Daniel Blendea , freebsd-www@freebsd.org, jsha , freebsd-arch@freebsd.org, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <20041223112731.GA32750@ninja.terrabionic.com> <89b41e4704122303546aaa8d83@mail.gmail.com> <20041223133440.GC786@myrddin.originative.co.uk> <41CB9F16.1010405@nbritton.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <41CB9F16.1010405@nbritton.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 4.2-RELEASE i386 X-PGP-Fingerprint: B7 EC EF F8 AE ED A7 31 96 7A 22 B3 D8 56 36 F4 X-Files: The truth is out there X-URL: http://resnet.uoregon.edu/~gurney_j/ X-Resume: http://resnet.uoregon.edu/~gurney_j/resume.html X-BeenThere: freebsd-arch@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Sender: owner-freebsd-arch@freebsd.org Errors-To: owner-freebsd-arch@freebsd.org X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.0.1 (2004-10-22) on elvis.mu.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.6 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=3.0.1 X-Spam-Level: Cc: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org, Daniel Blendea , freebsd-www@freebsd.org, jsha , freebsd-arch@freebsd.org, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, Paul Richards Subject: Re: FreeBSD's Visual Identity: Outdated? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Reply-To: John-Mark Gurney List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Date: Sun, 03 Jul 2005 00:10:40 -0000 X-Original-Date: Thu, 23 Dec 2004 21:40:00 -0800 X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 03 Jul 2005 00:10:40 -0000 Nikolas Britton wrote this message on Thu, Dec 23, 2004 at 22:46 -0600: > 2. I cringe when I see Times New Roman, again redo the whole site with a > modern web font: Arial, Helvetica, Verdana, Etc. (ever here of Cascading > Style Sheets?) you mean a sans-serif font? yes, most computer display fonts should be sans-serif since the screen resolution does not always allow you to do that... (and Helvetica isn't that modern, about 50 years old now it appears)... As for CSS, it appears that we do use CSS on the site: And part of CSS is letting people choose what font they want to display the site in... It appears at least Mozilla chooses Times by default... So I'd more complain to the browers that display with the default font.. -- John-Mark Gurney Voice: +1 415 225 5579 "All that I will do, has been done, All that I have, has not." _______________________________________________ freebsd-arch@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-arch To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-arch-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jul 3 00:10:40 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4E9B416A423; Sun, 3 Jul 2005 00:10:29 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ps@mu.org) Received: from elvis.mu.org (elvis.mu.org [192.203.228.196]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3132243E59; Sun, 3 Jul 2005 00:08:56 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ps@mu.org) Received: by elvis.mu.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id C97365DCDE; Sat, 2 Jul 2005 17:07:58 -0700 (PDT) X-Original-To: ps@mu.org Delivered-To: ps@mu.org Received: from mx2.freebsd.org (mx2.freebsd.org [216.136.204.119]) by elvis.mu.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D2CE75C9A7 for ; Thu, 23 Dec 2004 21:02:06 -0800 (PST) Received: from hub.freebsd.org (hub.freebsd.org [216.136.204.18]) by mx2.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5409E56DAF; Fri, 24 Dec 2004 05:01:51 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-arch@freebsd.org) Received: from hub.freebsd.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AE0DA16A4CF; Fri, 24 Dec 2004 05:01:50 +0000 (GMT) Delivered-To: freebsd-arch@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A5C3916A4CE; Fri, 24 Dec 2004 05:01:45 +0000 (GMT) Received: from makeworld.com (makeworld.com [198.92.228.38]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BE68D43D46; Fri, 24 Dec 2004 05:01:44 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from racerx@makeworld.com) Received: from localhost (localhost.com [127.0.0.1]) by makeworld.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0090260E2; Thu, 23 Dec 2004 23:01:43 -0600 (CST) Received: from makeworld.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (makeworld.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 44906-06; Thu, 23 Dec 2004 23:01:38 -0600 (CST) Received: from [198.92.228.34] (racerx.makeworld.com [198.92.228.34]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by makeworld.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9C10360CD; Thu, 23 Dec 2004 23:01:38 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <41CBA2D5.4070700@makeworld.com> From: Chris User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (X11/20041218) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Nikolas Britton References: <20041223112731.GA32750@ninja.terrabionic.com> <89b41e4704122303546aaa8d83@mail.gmail.com> <20041223133440.GC786@myrddin.originative.co.uk> <41CB9F16.1010405@nbritton.org> In-Reply-To: <41CB9F16.1010405@nbritton.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by ClamAV 0.75.1/amavisd-new-2.2.0 (20041102) at makeworld.com - Isn't it ironic X-BeenThere: freebsd-arch@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Sender: owner-freebsd-arch@freebsd.org Errors-To: owner-freebsd-arch@freebsd.org X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.0.1 (2004-10-22) on elvis.mu.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.6 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=3.0.1 X-Spam-Level: Cc: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org, Daniel Blendea , freebsd-www@freebsd.org, jsha , freebsd-arch@freebsd.org, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, Paul Richards Subject: Re: FreeBSD's Visual Identity: Outdated? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Date: Sun, 03 Jul 2005 00:10:42 -0000 X-Original-Date: Thu, 23 Dec 2004 23:02:13 -0600 X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 03 Jul 2005 00:10:42 -0000 Nikolas Britton wrote: > >>> From a business perspective we look amateurish. >> I have held off thus far... >> > I REALLY REALLY agree with this point, from the prospective of an > outsider the website and "Image" conveys a real lack of professionalism, > which is not true. No you don't - would you prefer multi-colored windows? A penguin? What? Are we looking into the geo-political correctness as in the like as the NetBSD project took? > I'm looking at the start page for FreeBSD right now and here are the > things I do not like about it (please don't be offended if I step on > toe's and ego's, I am only trying to better FreeBSD): Here we go - Let's just re engineer life as we know it. Lets also not offend gays, users of color, males, females, users of religion, users of no religion, users of Windows, users of Linux, users of DOS, users of NetWare, etc, etc, etc. > 1. The "FreeBSD" logo is crap, not beastie (he's a keeper!!!, I'll hunt > you down and do bad things to you if you take him away!), Just the black > wannabe (and badly done) 3D effect "FreeBSD" part, really, I hate it. > Redo the whole logo in photoshop with a bold, antialiased modern web > font: (Arial, Helvetica, Verdana, Century Gothic, etc.) and forget the > whole 3D effect as that is so 90s. Generally all of your logo designs > are unprofessional (the logos at the bottom of the page: FreeBSD MALL, > UseNix, Daemon News, and Powered by FreeBSD for example) You will do no such thing - see above, read the threads on the NetBSD site as to the redoing of the "logo" > 2. I cringe when I see Times New Roman, again redo the whole site with a > modern web font: Arial, Helvetica, Verdana, Etc. (ever here of Cascading > Style Sheets?) CSS? Isnt that a bit outdated? Isnt that more a Windows thing? > 3. The color scheme is not "complementary" anyone who has been to art > school or taken design classes will know what I talking about, read up > about basic color theory here: > http://www.color-wheel-pro.com/color-theory-basics.html (again, ever > here of Cascading Style Sheets??) Guess what mate - most of us are NOT into art. Get real. Deal with the OS, not the look and feel of the site. Do I really care if a design has passion blue opposed to blue? Do you really thing techies are THAT into pastels? If you want to re design something (Actually - is sounds like you have been watching way too much TLC) then get a gig on Monster House. > 4. I like the Beastie logo on the boot loader screen but ASCII art is > unprofessional... It would be better if you made the color ASCII beastie > the default. Who cares?!?! It's resource friendly tho... > I have no real issues with the layout of the site and it would be nice > if the installer was more user friendly but I am content with the way it > is, maybe you should change the color scheme of the installer to match > the website? Snip - not worth repeating. > FreeBSD is badly in need of a PR/Design/Marketing department. Maybe you can start, The Queer-Eye for the BSD-Guy. -- Best regards, Chris _______________________________________________ freebsd-arch@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-arch To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-arch-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jul 3 00:10:42 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4C1EF16A45A; Sun, 3 Jul 2005 00:10:29 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ps@mu.org) Received: from elvis.mu.org (elvis.mu.org [192.203.228.196]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 30FDC43E50; Sun, 3 Jul 2005 00:08:54 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ps@mu.org) Received: by elvis.mu.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id A5AA35DCD4; Sat, 2 Jul 2005 17:07:58 -0700 (PDT) X-Original-To: ps@mu.org Delivered-To: ps@mu.org Received: from mx2.freebsd.org (mx2.freebsd.org [216.136.204.119]) by elvis.mu.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 95D855C9A1 for ; Thu, 23 Dec 2004 21:58:10 -0800 (PST) Received: from hub.freebsd.org (hub.freebsd.org [216.136.204.18]) by mx2.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4171555902; Fri, 24 Dec 2004 05:58:10 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-arch@freebsd.org) Received: from hub.freebsd.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7EE8F16A4D5; Fri, 24 Dec 2004 05:58:09 +0000 (GMT) Delivered-To: freebsd-arch@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4ED8416A4CE; Fri, 24 Dec 2004 05:58:06 +0000 (GMT) Received: from postit.mail.adnap.net.au (postit.mail.adnap.net.au [203.6.132.68]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D113E43D2F; Fri, 24 Dec 2004 05:58:05 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from bastill@adam.com.au) Received: from [192.168.1.3] (202-6-154-250.ip.adam.com.au [202.6.154.250]) by postit.mail.adnap.net.au (Postfix) with ESMTP id 32E551C449; Fri, 24 Dec 2004 16:28:03 +1030 (CST) From: Brian Astill To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org User-Agent: KMail/1.6.2 References: <20041223112731.GA32750@ninja.terrabionic.com> <20041223133440.GC786@myrddin.originative.co.uk> <41CB9F16.1010405@nbritton.org> In-Reply-To: <41CB9F16.1010405@nbritton.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <200412241627.51795.bastill@adam.com.au> X-BeenThere: freebsd-arch@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Sender: owner-freebsd-arch@freebsd.org Errors-To: owner-freebsd-arch@freebsd.org X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.0.1 (2004-10-22) on elvis.mu.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.4 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00, DATE_IN_FUTURE_12_24 autolearn=no version=3.0.1 X-Spam-Level: Cc: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org, Daniel Blendea , freebsd-www@freebsd.org, jsha , freebsd-arch@freebsd.org, Nikolas Britton , Paul Richards Subject: Re: FreeBSD's Visual Identity: Outdated? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Date: Sun, 03 Jul 2005 00:10:42 -0000 X-Original-Date: Fri, 24 Dec 2004 16:27:51 -0500 X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 03 Jul 2005 00:10:42 -0000 On Thu, 23 Dec 2004 11:46 pm, Nikolas Britton wrote: > FreeBSD is badly in need of a PR/Design/Marketing department. > _______________________________________________ It also needs people who realise that multiple cross-posting is deprecated. Could this conversation please be moved to -advocacy and ONLY to -advocacy? Thanks. -- Regards, Brian sos-sa.org.au _______________________________________________ freebsd-arch@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-arch To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-arch-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jul 3 00:10:43 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6EA5E16A434; Sun, 3 Jul 2005 00:10:29 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ps@mu.org) Received: from elvis.mu.org (elvis.mu.org [192.203.228.196]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3669C43D66; Sun, 3 Jul 2005 00:08:59 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ps@mu.org) Received: by elvis.mu.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 2A6EC5DCA6; Sat, 2 Jul 2005 17:07:59 -0700 (PDT) X-Original-To: ps@mu.org Delivered-To: ps@mu.org Received: from mx2.freebsd.org (mx2.freebsd.org [216.136.204.119]) by elvis.mu.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9F4FC5C8B1 for ; Fri, 24 Dec 2004 14:47:32 -0800 (PST) Received: from hub.freebsd.org (hub.freebsd.org [216.136.204.18]) by mx2.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4FED9563B7; Fri, 24 Dec 2004 22:47:20 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-arch@freebsd.org) Received: from hub.freebsd.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0DF2E16A51F; Fri, 24 Dec 2004 22:47:12 +0000 (GMT) Delivered-To: freebsd-arch@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6DD6516A4CE; Fri, 24 Dec 2004 22:47:04 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtp.des.no (flood.des.no [217.116.83.31]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AF39D43D41; Fri, 24 Dec 2004 22:47:03 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from des@des.no) Received: by smtp.des.no (Pony Express, from userid 666) id 9EB6D530C; Fri, 24 Dec 2004 23:47:01 +0100 (CET) Received: from dwp.des.no (des.no [80.203.228.37]) by smtp.des.no (Pony Express) with ESMTP id AEDF75308; Fri, 24 Dec 2004 23:46:20 +0100 (CET) Received: by dwp.des.no (Postfix, from userid 2602) id 40557B874; Fri, 24 Dec 2004 23:46:20 +0100 (CET) To: Giorgos Keramidas References: <20041223112731.GA32750@ninja.terrabionic.com> <89b41e4704122303546aaa8d83@mail.gmail.com> <20041223133440.GC786@myrddin.originative.co.uk> <41CB9F16.1010405@nbritton.org> <41CBA2D5.4070700@makeworld.com> <20041224142246.GB779@gothmog.gr> From: des@des.no (=?iso-8859-1?q?Dag-Erling_Sm=F8rgrav?=) In-Reply-To: <20041224142246.GB779@gothmog.gr> (Giorgos Keramidas's message of "Fri, 24 Dec 2004 16:22:46 +0200") Message-ID: User-Agent: Gnus/5.110002 (No Gnus v0.2) Emacs/21.3 (berkeley-unix) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-BeenThere: freebsd-arch@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Sender: owner-freebsd-arch@freebsd.org Errors-To: owner-freebsd-arch@freebsd.org X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.0.1 (2004-10-22) on elvis.mu.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.8 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=3.0.1 X-Spam-Level: Cc: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org, freebsd-www@freebsd.org, freebsd-arch@freebsd.org, Nikolas Britton , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD's Visual Identity: Outdated? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Date: Sun, 03 Jul 2005 00:10:43 -0000 X-Original-Date: Fri, 24 Dec 2004 23:46:19 +0100 X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 03 Jul 2005 00:10:43 -0000 Giorgos Keramidas writes: > On 2004-12-23 23:02, Chris wrote: > > Nikolas Britton wrote: > > > 2. I cringe when I see Times New Roman, again redo the whole site > > > with a modern web font: Arial, Helvetica, Verdana, Etc. (ever here of > > > Cascading Style Sheets?) > > CSS? Isnt that a bit outdated? Isnt that more a Windows thing? > Actually, no. Nikolas is right here. The sans serif fonts look much > better and are more readable on the monitor. Times looks better on > paper. Times New Roman was designed for a single purpose: to remain readable even when smudged or printed on low-quality paper. It does not really look good on any medium, but it's less bad than most other fonts on newsprint. Responding to Chris: CSS is neither outdated nor a Windows thing. You apparently need to get an extra clue or two before you rejoin this discussion. Responding to Nikolas: Arial and Verdana are Windows fonts which is not necessarily installed on www.freebsd.org's readers' machines (though it is available in ports). Conversely, Helvetica is generally not available in Windows. CSS defines 'sans-serif' as a generic alias for whichever sans-serif font looks best on each particular platform (it maps to Arial in Windows, and Helvetica or similar in X); likewise, it defines 'serif' as a generic alias for serif fonts (it maps to Times New Roman in Windows, and a variety of Roman fonts in X depending on the browser and on what fonts are available). DES --=20 Dag-Erling Sm=F8rgrav - des@des.no _______________________________________________ freebsd-arch@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-arch To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-arch-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jul 3 00:10:43 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8A7DB16A463; Sun, 3 Jul 2005 00:10:29 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ps@mu.org) Received: from elvis.mu.org (elvis.mu.org [192.203.228.196]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3FDD443E6F; Sun, 3 Jul 2005 00:09:00 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ps@mu.org) Received: by elvis.mu.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 5F76D5DCED; Sat, 2 Jul 2005 17:07:59 -0700 (PDT) X-Original-To: ps@mu.org Delivered-To: ps@mu.org Received: from mx2.freebsd.org (mx2.freebsd.org [216.136.204.119]) by elvis.mu.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 223D35C907 for ; Fri, 24 Dec 2004 06:23:49 -0800 (PST) Received: from hub.freebsd.org (hub.freebsd.org [216.136.204.18]) by mx2.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 59196560C1; Fri, 24 Dec 2004 14:23:47 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-arch@freebsd.org) Received: from hub.freebsd.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7F1BA16A4D6; Fri, 24 Dec 2004 14:23:46 +0000 (GMT) Delivered-To: freebsd-arch@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B7B8816A4CE; Fri, 24 Dec 2004 14:23:42 +0000 (GMT) Received: from kane.otenet.gr (kane.otenet.gr [195.170.0.27]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E6E5443D4C; Fri, 24 Dec 2004 14:23:41 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from keramida@freebsd.org) Received: from gothmog.gr (patr530-b238.otenet.gr [212.205.244.246]) iBOENalo011721; Fri, 24 Dec 2004 16:23:38 +0200 Received: from gothmog.gr (gothmog [127.0.0.1]) by gothmog.gr (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id iBOENXPJ001444; Fri, 24 Dec 2004 16:23:33 +0200 (EET) (envelope-from keramida@freebsd.org) Received: (from giorgos@localhost) by gothmog.gr (8.13.1/8.13.1/Submit) id iBOEMkmE001441; Fri, 24 Dec 2004 16:22:46 +0200 (EET) (envelope-from keramida@freebsd.org) From: Giorgos Keramidas To: Chris , Nikolas Britton Message-ID: <20041224142246.GB779@gothmog.gr> References: <20041223112731.GA32750@ninja.terrabionic.com> <89b41e4704122303546aaa8d83@mail.gmail.com> <20041223133440.GC786@myrddin.originative.co.uk> <41CB9F16.1010405@nbritton.org> <41CBA2D5.4070700@makeworld.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <41CBA2D5.4070700@makeworld.com> X-BeenThere: freebsd-arch@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Sender: owner-freebsd-arch@freebsd.org Errors-To: owner-freebsd-arch@freebsd.org X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.0.1 (2004-10-22) on elvis.mu.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.6 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_00, SUSPICIOUS_RECIPS autolearn=no version=3.0.1 X-Spam-Level: Cc: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org, freebsd-www@freebsd.org, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, freebsd-arch@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD's Visual Identity: Outdated? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Date: Sun, 03 Jul 2005 00:10:44 -0000 X-Original-Date: Fri, 24 Dec 2004 16:22:46 +0200 X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 03 Jul 2005 00:10:44 -0000 On 2004-12-23 23:02, Chris wrote: >Nikolas Britton wrote: >> 2. I cringe when I see Times New Roman, again redo the whole site >> with a modern web font: Arial, Helvetica, Verdana, Etc. (ever here of >> Cascading Style Sheets?) > > CSS? Isnt that a bit outdated? Isnt that more a Windows thing? Actually, no. Nikolas is right here. The sans serif fonts look much better and are more readable on the monitor. Times looks better on paper. > >3. The color scheme is not "complementary" anyone who has been to art > >school or taken design classes will know what I talking about, read up > >about basic color theory here: > >http://www.color-wheel-pro.com/color-theory-basics.html (again, ever > >here of Cascading Style Sheets??) > > Guess what mate - most of us are NOT into art. Get real. Deal with the > OS, not the look and feel of the site. Do I really care if a design > has passion blue opposed to blue? The fact that we don't know a lot about art and design is not a good excuse for reacting badly to anyone that says so. Nikolas, there is an effort to redesign the web site, using CSS as much as possible for style & layout, making sure that the entire site has a consistent look and feel. Your comments show that you know a bit about design. If you believe you can help with such an effort, please contact us at and assist the team who works on the web site. > Do you really thing techies are THAT into pastels? If you want to re > design something (Actually - is sounds like you have been watching way > too much TLC) then get a gig on Monster House. > > >4. I like the Beastie logo on the boot loader screen but ASCII art is > >unprofessional... It would be better if you made the color ASCII beastie > >the default. > > Who cares?!?! It's resource friendly tho... ``Who cares?'' is exactly the sort of bad PR that Nikolas is right about. Please avoid inflammatory material, if possible :-/ Nikolas, there is a good reason why the ASCII art logo is not using colors by default. Many people use FreeBSD with a serial console, and sending colors over a serial port connection is a bit silly: annoying an a waste of precious serial connection bandwidth. This is why the loader logo doesn't use fancy colors by default. - Giorgos _______________________________________________ freebsd-arch@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-arch To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-arch-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jul 3 00:10:45 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B6B6D16A458; Sun, 3 Jul 2005 00:10:29 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ps@mu.org) Received: from elvis.mu.org (elvis.mu.org [192.203.228.196]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 97EC343E8A; Sun, 3 Jul 2005 00:09:08 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ps@mu.org) Received: by elvis.mu.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id D039B5DD0E; Sat, 2 Jul 2005 17:08:00 -0700 (PDT) X-Original-To: ps@mu.org Delivered-To: ps@mu.org Received: from mx2.freebsd.org (mx2.freebsd.org [216.136.204.119]) by elvis.mu.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AA8305C981 for ; Wed, 29 Dec 2004 16:33:43 -0800 (PST) Received: from hub.freebsd.org (hub.freebsd.org [216.136.204.18]) by mx2.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EC87155C73; Thu, 30 Dec 2004 00:33:42 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-arch@freebsd.org) Received: from hub.freebsd.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7C22616A4D4; Thu, 30 Dec 2004 00:33:42 +0000 (GMT) Delivered-To: freebsd-arch@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8668D16A4CE; Thu, 30 Dec 2004 00:32:29 +0000 (GMT) Received: from schlepper.zs64.net (schlepper.zs64.net [212.12.50.230]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0263643D2D; Thu, 30 Dec 2004 00:32:26 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from stb@lassitu.de) Received: from [IPv6:::1] (schlepper [212.12.50.230]) by schlepper.zs64.net (8.13.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id iBU0WBAE000914; Thu, 30 Dec 2004 01:32:15 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from stb@lassitu.de) In-Reply-To: <41D31EE9.5050803@nbritton.org> References: <41D31EE9.5050803@nbritton.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v619) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Message-Id: <3D6982C4-59FA-11D9-8D31-000A95C893E4@lassitu.de> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Stefan Bethke To: Nikolas Britton X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.619) X-BeenThere: freebsd-arch@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Sender: owner-freebsd-arch@freebsd.org Errors-To: owner-freebsd-arch@freebsd.org X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.0.1 (2004-10-22) on elvis.mu.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.6 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=3.0.1 X-Spam-Level: Cc: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org, Ted Mittelstaedt , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, freebsd-www@freebsd.org, freebsd-arch@freebsd.org, Simon Burke Subject: Re: FreeBSD's Visual Identity: Outdated? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Date: Sun, 03 Jul 2005 00:10:45 -0000 X-Original-Date: Thu, 30 Dec 2004 01:32:09 +0100 X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 03 Jul 2005 00:10:45 -0000 It was fun while it lasted. Please stop. If you have to, move this to chat. -- Stefan Bethke Fon +49 170 346 0140 _______________________________________________ freebsd-arch@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-arch To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-arch-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jul 3 00:10:46 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AEDC616A43B; Sun, 3 Jul 2005 00:10:29 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ps@mu.org) Received: from elvis.mu.org (elvis.mu.org [192.203.228.196]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 92ACC43D1F; Sun, 3 Jul 2005 00:08:57 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ps@mu.org) Received: by elvis.mu.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 07F295DCE8; Sat, 2 Jul 2005 17:07:59 -0700 (PDT) X-Original-To: ps@mu.org Delivered-To: ps@mu.org Received: from mx2.freebsd.org (mx2.freebsd.org [216.136.204.119]) by elvis.mu.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9F03D5C98A for ; Thu, 23 Dec 2004 09:07:41 -0800 (PST) Received: from hub.freebsd.org (hub.freebsd.org [216.136.204.18]) by mx2.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 50C1B564DA; Thu, 23 Dec 2004 17:07:36 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-arch@freebsd.org) Received: from hub.freebsd.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 80DB216A4EC; Thu, 23 Dec 2004 17:07:33 +0000 (GMT) Delivered-To: freebsd-arch@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 590D716A4CE; Thu, 23 Dec 2004 17:07:28 +0000 (GMT) Received: from orchid.homeunix.org (awl227.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl [83.27.71.227]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6063243D31; Thu, 23 Dec 2004 17:07:27 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from freebsd@orchid.homeunix.org) Received: from [192.168.1.66] (blackacidevil.orchid.homeunix.org [192.168.1.66]) (authenticated bits=0) by orchid.homeunix.org (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id iBNH44ww039913 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Thu, 23 Dec 2004 18:07:23 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from freebsd@orchid.homeunix.org) Message-ID: <41CAFA83.4020300@orchid.homeunix.org> From: Karol Kwiatkowski User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (Windows/20041206) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Ramiro Aceves References: <20041223112731.GA32750@ninja.terrabionic.com> <41CAF6F6.9070208@wanadoo.es> In-Reply-To: <41CAF6F6.9070208@wanadoo.es> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.89.5.0 X-Enigmail-Supports: pgp-inline, pgp-mime Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV 0.80/639/Wed Dec 22 15:09:50 2004 clamav-milter version 0.80j on orchid.homeunix.org X-Virus-Status: Clean X-BeenThere: freebsd-arch@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Sender: owner-freebsd-arch@freebsd.org Errors-To: owner-freebsd-arch@freebsd.org X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.0.1 (2004-10-22) on elvis.mu.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.6 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=3.0.1 X-Spam-Level: Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, freebsd-www@freebsd.org, jsha , freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org, freebsd-arch@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD's Visual Identity: Outdated? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Reply-To: freebsd@orchid.homeunix.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Date: Sun, 03 Jul 2005 00:10:46 -0000 X-Original-Date: Thu, 23 Dec 2004 18:04:03 +0100 X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 03 Jul 2005 00:10:46 -0000 Ramiro Aceves wrote: > jsha wrote: >> 1. Not only is the logo misleading (associating evil) but it also looks >> like something 10-year-olds could produce in Paint Shop Pro ten years >> ago. OpenBSD has an artistic touch to theirs, however I was very >> disappointed when I heard that the new NetBSD logo was in effect. > > I really like the devil, it is nice and pleasant for me. A bit OT, but to make things clear I'd like to point out it's not the devil. It's a daemon. BSD Daemon. "Many people equate the word ``daemon'' with the word ``demon,'' implying some kind of Satanic connection between UNIX and the underworld. This is an egregious misunderstanding. ``Daemon'' is actually a much older form of ``demon''; daemons have no particular bias towards good or evil, but rather serve to help define a person's character or personality. The ancient Greeks' concept of a ``personal daemon'' was similar to the modern concept of a ``guardian angel'' --- ``eudaemonia'' is the state of being helped or protected by a kindly spirit. As a rule, UNIX systems seem to be infested with both daemons and demons." quote from: http://www.freebsd.org/copyright/daemon.html Regards, Karol -- Karol Kwiatkowski _______________________________________________ freebsd-arch@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-arch To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-arch-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jul 3 00:10:46 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C7E1D16A465; Sun, 3 Jul 2005 00:10:29 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ps@mu.org) Received: from elvis.mu.org (elvis.mu.org [192.203.228.196]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4996743E3A; Sun, 3 Jul 2005 00:08:49 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ps@mu.org) Received: by elvis.mu.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id AAC375DCB3; Sat, 2 Jul 2005 17:07:57 -0700 (PDT) X-Original-To: ps@mu.org Delivered-To: ps@mu.org Received: from mx2.freebsd.org (mx2.freebsd.org [216.136.204.119]) by elvis.mu.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D221C5C98A for ; Thu, 23 Dec 2004 04:43:38 -0800 (PST) Received: from hub.freebsd.org (hub.freebsd.org [216.136.204.18]) by mx2.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B47F556E4F; Thu, 23 Dec 2004 12:43:27 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-arch@freebsd.org) Received: from hub.freebsd.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2A9CE16A4DB; Thu, 23 Dec 2004 12:43:27 +0000 (GMT) Delivered-To: freebsd-arch@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2FF0416A4CF for ; Thu, 23 Dec 2004 12:43:23 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mailserv1.neuroflux.com (ns2.neuroflux.com [204.228.228.85]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7ADF743D4C for ; Thu, 23 Dec 2004 12:43:22 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ryans@gamersimpact.com) Received: (qmail 5729 invoked by uid 89); 23 Dec 2004 12:40:58 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO www2.neuroflux.com) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 23 Dec 2004 12:40:58 -0000 Received: from 63.231.157.250 (SquirrelMail authenticated user ryans@gamersimpact.com); by www2.neuroflux.com with HTTP; Thu, 23 Dec 2004 05:40:58 -0700 (MST) Message-ID: <49467.63.231.157.250.1103805658.squirrel@63.231.157.250> In-Reply-To: <20041223112731.GA32750@ninja.terrabionic.com> References: <20041223112731.GA32750@ninja.terrabionic.com> From: "Ryan Sommers" To: "jsha" User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.3a X-Mailer: SquirrelMail/1.4.3a MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal X-BeenThere: freebsd-arch@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Sender: owner-freebsd-arch@freebsd.org Errors-To: owner-freebsd-arch@freebsd.org X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.0.1 (2004-10-22) on elvis.mu.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=AWL, BAYES_00, DEAR_SOMETHING autolearn=no version=3.0.1 X-Spam-Level: Cc: freebsd-www@freebsd.org, freebsd-arch@freebsd.org, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD's Visual Identity: Outdated? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Date: Sun, 03 Jul 2005 00:10:47 -0000 X-Original-Date: Thu, 23 Dec 2004 05:40:58 -0700 (MST) X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 03 Jul 2005 00:10:47 -0000 Going to reply to the whole thread so far. jsha said: > 1. Not only is the logo misleading (associating evil) but it also looks > like something 10-year-olds could produce in Paint Shop Pro ten years Although I don't like the tone of the other replies, I agree with their sentiment, beasty is as much a part of FreeBSD as the family dog is a part of the family. > > 2. If it wasn't for the interesting content and structure of the FreeBSD > website, it would be among the less beautiful. Yes, it serves its > purpose well by being simple and straight to the point. But a redesign > could offer just the same -- simplicity and accuracy -- without being > ugly. I don't think the website is all that ugly, personally, however, a new design isn't out of the question. So long as content and navigation is somewhat preserved. I've found certain things difficult to find again when I remember that I saw them somewhere, and I've been using FreeBSD for 7 years now. > > 3. The installation, even though it's text-only, could also be improved > by simple restructuring to act more cognitive and human-centered than > previously. Everything pertaining to the eye is important to improve. This is on many people's minds, including my own. Now that the holidays are upon us I'm going to try and spend a little of my free time working on putting my ideas into code. Or, I might look again at FreeBSDIE and bsdinstaller and seeing what it would take to bring them into the tree. > > 4. There should be some kind of FreeBSD business card and letterhead > available to all that support this project. I'm not sure I understand the reasoning behing a business card. > > How do I know though, that if I manage to pull together a team to work > on this refined vision, that we won't be totally ignored even though we > produce the most magnificent result? > If you feel it needs to be done, and you would like to work on it, more power to you! Come up with a concept design and submit it for review. I think there are definite improvments to be made in the eyes of the new-comer. I believe there is a www@ team is there not? Might try posting to that list and see what you come up with. FreeBSD survives off people spending time where they see fit. If web-dev and graphic arts is your thing and you want to contribute, I for one will give you the time to submit my opinion of your work. Daniel Blendea said: > 1. bu**s**it, Beastie is **COOL** and would be a loss of identity if > the logo would change; > Dear Sir, please read the page where what greek daemons are explained.. > > 2. again, bu**s**it, the colors are not ugly at ALL, - and i'm not a > fan of site's color theme coz i prefer blue-ish colors - again, think > about identity...whenever one FreeBSD'er sees the logo/colors - on > software packages, media and the like - he will know that product is > related to FreeBSD > > 3. please install FreeBSD couple of times, and afterwards you'll get > to install it eyes- closed.. This is hardly the way to represent and argument. There is no need to be profane at someone for expressing their ideas to aid the project. It should be encouraged. Others, please don't feed the troll. Simon Burke said: > Also freebsd is an operating system, if the developers and such spent > all this time maintaining its image rather than its OS then freeBSD > would no longer be such a great operating system. The code developers don't have to spend time on web-dev and graphics. But if there is a willing body that might not be able to work on the code but has talent in the user-interface, web-development, and graphic arts field, why not let them give their time to the project in a manner that fits their skills? Please don't bash or make light of those that contribute things other than code. Rock on doc@ team. Code or not you've done a great job. It takes many skillsets to develop and maintain a tool such as FreeBSD code is just one of them. -- Ryan Sommers ryans@gamersimpact.com _______________________________________________ freebsd-arch@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-arch To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-arch-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jul 3 00:10:47 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D146116A426; Sun, 3 Jul 2005 00:10:29 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ps@mu.org) Received: from elvis.mu.org (elvis.mu.org [192.203.228.196]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4C1F043E73; Sun, 3 Jul 2005 00:09:01 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ps@mu.org) Received: by elvis.mu.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 7BF6C5DCF2; Sat, 2 Jul 2005 17:07:59 -0700 (PDT) X-Original-To: ps@mu.org Delivered-To: ps@mu.org Received: from mx2.freebsd.org (mx2.freebsd.org [216.136.204.119]) by elvis.mu.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2C3A55C981 for ; Fri, 24 Dec 2004 16:25:32 -0800 (PST) Received: from hub.freebsd.org (hub.freebsd.org [216.136.204.18]) by mx2.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C8E0A55B69; Sat, 25 Dec 2004 00:25:30 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-arch@freebsd.org) Received: from hub.freebsd.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2310416A4D5; Sat, 25 Dec 2004 00:25:30 +0000 (GMT) Delivered-To: freebsd-arch@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5F6D616A4CE; Sat, 25 Dec 2004 00:25:28 +0000 (GMT) Received: from shrike.submonkey.net (cpc2-cdif3-6-0-cust204.cdif.cable.ntl.com [81.103.67.204]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B4CEB43D58; Sat, 25 Dec 2004 00:25:27 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from setantae@submonkey.net) Received: from setantae by shrike.submonkey.net with local (Exim 4.43 (FreeBSD)) id 1Chzk7-000C1I-RH; Sat, 25 Dec 2004 00:25:11 +0000 From: Ceri Davies To: Nikolas Britton , Paul Richards , freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org, Daniel Blendea , freebsd-www@freebsd.org, jsha , freebsd-arch@freebsd.org, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, www@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20041225002511.GC7445@submonkey.net> Mail-Followup-To: Ceri Davies , Nikolas Britton , Paul Richards , freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org, Daniel Blendea , freebsd-www@freebsd.org, jsha , freebsd-arch@freebsd.org, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, www@freebsd.org References: <20041223112731.GA32750@ninja.terrabionic.com> <89b41e4704122303546aaa8d83@mail.gmail.com> <20041223133440.GC786@myrddin.originative.co.uk> <41CB9F16.1010405@nbritton.org> <20041224054000.GL19624@funkthat.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="sHrvAb52M6C8blB9" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20041224054000.GL19624@funkthat.com> X-PGP: finger ceri@FreeBSD.org User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.6i X-BeenThere: freebsd-arch@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Sender: owner-freebsd-arch@freebsd.org Errors-To: owner-freebsd-arch@freebsd.org X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.0.1 (2004-10-22) on elvis.mu.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.6 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=3.0.1 X-Spam-Level: Cc: Subject: Re: FreeBSD's Visual Identity: Outdated? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Date: Sun, 03 Jul 2005 00:10:47 -0000 X-Original-Date: Sat, 25 Dec 2004 00:25:11 +0000 X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 03 Jul 2005 00:10:47 -0000 --sHrvAb52M6C8blB9 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Thu, Dec 23, 2004 at 09:40:00PM -0800, John-Mark Gurney wrote: > Nikolas Britton wrote this message on Thu, Dec 23, 2004 at 22:46 -0600: [ Choosing a random(ish) post to reply to - I am on holiday right now and I will not pretend to have read the whole thread ] > > 2. I cringe when I see Times New Roman, again redo the whole site with = a=20 > > modern web font: Arial, Helvetica, Verdana, Etc. (ever here of Cascadin= g=20 > > Style Sheets?) >=20 > you mean a sans-serif font? yes, most computer display fonts should > be sans-serif since the screen resolution does not always allow you to > do that... (and Helvetica isn't that modern, about 50 years old now > it appears)... >=20 > As for CSS, it appears that we do use CSS on the site: > I just committed that before I left for holidays; it is only a first step towards CSS'ing the site, and once the conversion to CSS is complete then it should be simple to have an a "best stylesheet" competition or similar (something along those lines was discussed on doc@ a couple of weeks ago). Matt Seaman posted a link to a crappy "here is what CSS can do" mockup that I posted to doc@ just before the commit mentioned above - it's at http://shrike.submonkey.net/~ceri/data2/index.html (be sure to let all the images load - this is on a slow link - and be aware that it doesn't work properly in IE for reasons that DES mentioned elsewhere). Once the conversion to CSS is complete then I have ideas for a way to offer users a personalised stylesheet (subject to implementation [I do not have a computer with me] and benchmarking [it is likely to be a little slow, though this remains to be seen]), and then you will all whine like bitchen about being asked to accept a cookie. Simon@ also has a parallel project running to redesign the site on a more fundamental which is showing promise; my main focus at present is to migrate all style related bits into stylesheets, at which point it will be easy to mess around with colour/font/layout. At present, it is not. So yes, to whoever asked the question, we have heard of CSS and we have not only been using it (minimally) for over three years, but there is real activity in improving what we do have already. > And part of CSS is letting people choose what font they want to display > the site in... It appears at least Mozilla chooses Times by default... > So I'd more complain to the browers that display with the default font.. Stimmt. Ceri --=20 Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former. -- Einstein (attrib.) --sHrvAb52M6C8blB9 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.6 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFBzLNnocfcwTS3JF8RAmkHAKDIfGR6TJaNi+IQKLqo+N3plg6LaQCcDGW+ +gHjlNh7VE624g9IzAxaEQs= =gaup -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --sHrvAb52M6C8blB9-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jul 3 00:10:47 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D878F16A468; Sun, 3 Jul 2005 00:10:29 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ps@mu.org) Received: from elvis.mu.org (elvis.mu.org [192.203.228.196]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4E43543E7C; Sun, 3 Jul 2005 00:09:03 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ps@mu.org) Received: by elvis.mu.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id E6EFD5DD05; Sat, 2 Jul 2005 17:07:59 -0700 (PDT) X-Original-To: ps@mu.org Delivered-To: ps@mu.org Received: from mx2.freebsd.org (mx2.freebsd.org [216.136.204.119]) by elvis.mu.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 755415C9BC for ; Mon, 27 Dec 2004 23:24:13 -0800 (PST) Received: from hub.freebsd.org (hub.freebsd.org [216.136.204.18]) by mx2.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8C65F555CD; Tue, 28 Dec 2004 07:23:41 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-arch@freebsd.org) Received: from hub.freebsd.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6317516A514; Tue, 28 Dec 2004 07:23:36 +0000 (GMT) Delivered-To: freebsd-arch@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 22F4716A4CE; Tue, 28 Dec 2004 07:23:26 +0000 (GMT) Received: from ms-smtp-01.rdc-kc.rr.com (ms-smtp-01.rdc-kc.rr.com [24.94.166.115]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3F87E43D4C; Tue, 28 Dec 2004 07:23:25 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from fpawlak@wi.rr.com) Received: from john.wi.rr.com (CPE-24-160-252-207.wi.rr.com [24.160.252.207]) iBS7NEgV028552; Tue, 28 Dec 2004 01:23:14 -0600 (CST) Message-Id: <6.0.3.0.2.20041228011612.0285ccd8@pop-server.wi.rr.com> X-Sender: fpawlak@pop-server.wi.rr.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 6.0.3.0 To: Ted Mittelstaedt , "Roger 'Rocky' Vetterberg" , Simon Burke From: Frank Pawlak In-Reply-To: References: <41D0AF75.6040500@401.cx> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed; x-avg-checked=avg-ok-235E4711 X-Virus-Scanned: Symantec AntiVirus Scan Engine X-BeenThere: freebsd-arch@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Sender: owner-freebsd-arch@freebsd.org Errors-To: owner-freebsd-arch@freebsd.org X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.0.1 (2004-10-22) on elvis.mu.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.6 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=3.0.1 X-Spam-Level: Cc: freebsd-www@freebsd.org, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org, freebsd-arch@freebsd.org Subject: RE: FreeBSD's Visual Identity: Outdated? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Date: Sun, 03 Jul 2005 00:10:47 -0000 X-Original-Date: Tue, 28 Dec 2004 01:23:57 -0600 X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 03 Jul 2005 00:10:47 -0000 This beyond a doubt is one of the best explanations that I have seen, heard, expressed, etc., of how the fsck'ed up world of business does IT stuff, and I have done IT consulting on various levels for over 18 years. Very well said Ted. It points out quite well why BSD in general has a bad time in the marketplace. Regards, Frank At 11:36 PM 12/27/2004, Ted Mittelstaedt wrote: > > -----Original Message----- > > From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > > [mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]On Behalf Of Roger 'Rocky' > > Vetterberg > > Sent: Monday, December 27, 2004 4:57 PM > > To: Simon Burke > > Cc: freebsd-www@freebsd.org; freebsd-arch@freebsd.org; > > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org > > Subject: Re: FreeBSD's Visual Identity: Outdated? > > > > > > Simon Burke wrote: > > [snip] > > >>2. If it wasn't for the interesting content and structure of the FreeBSD > > >> website, it would be among the less beautiful. Yes, it serves its > > >> purpose well by being simple and straight to the point. But > > a redesign > > >> could offer just the same -- simplicity and accuracy -- without being > > >> ugly. > > > > > > > > > Aesthetics are not everything, the web site does what its supposed to > > > do. Also i actually like how it looks. > > > A lot of people have strong feelings about all these all singing all > > > dancing webistes. There is just no need. Keep it simple and easy to > > > navigate around thats all thats really important. If the aesthetics > > > really matter more than function to such people who use BSD then they > > > would probably be not using BSD but either windows or linux, where you > > > have a nice pretty GUI to look at all the nice pretty sites. > > > > This is where I think a lot of people simply does not understand the > > problem. > >Roger I understand the problem, I wrote a book on FreeBSD integration >in 2000. The problem is I think you don't understand the problem. > > > Im a FreeBSD user. I like FreeBSD because it does not have all the > > flashy installers and pretty GUI's that many linux distros seems to > > have today. > >That frankly isn't the reason you should like it. You should like it >because it works better than most commercial operating systems let >alone most operating systems. > > > But still, Ive been screaming for years for someone to > > improve the website. Why? > > Anyone that has stood in front of a boardroom full of CEO's or similar > > and tried to promote the use of FreeBSD in a big organisation knows > > why. They might like all the facts about the os, the rock-solid > > stability, the lightning-fast performance and its solid reputation as > > a server os, but one look at the website and they will run screaming > > towards the nearest linux advocate instead. > >Most of the CEO's I've dealt with don't give a shit on a shingle about >a product website. What they care about is: 'can what I need done >be done in a way that is a) cheap and b) works and c) won't lock me >in to you' > >FreeBSD meets criteria A and B really well but it does not meet C. Linux >meets A and B but BARELY meets C. Windows definitely meets C and usually >meets B and doesen't usually meet A. > >The problem of course is that A and C are related. If I am a CEO and >I sign a FreeBSD or Linux deal - and you are a sole-source provider, >then once I have all my business processes into you, I'm locked into >you. Once that happens my thought processes are that your going to become >very expensive to me - why, because there's no competition to you out there. >I'm not going to do that unless I trust you implicitly. And there's very >few business people I am ever going to trust implicitly, save perhaps unless >your a son or daughter, and even then I may not. > >You have to understand of course that this is old-school knee-jerk >thinking. The CEO's are scared to death of you Roger. They don't >understand what your selling, they don't understand how to integrate >technology into their systems, they don't even understand their >current system. > >CEO's choose Windows because they think that there's enough Windows >guys out there that if they don't like the one they have they can >boot him out and get another. They only will give up choosing Windows >if they either absolutely cannot afford it, or if Windows simply won't >do what they need done. > >If they cannot afford it, what they will then do is keep dragging >Windows consultant after Windows consultant in to present to them, >until they stumble over an ignoramus (which is not hard) who over >commits himself and promises the world. They will then burn up >this guy, threatening lawsuits and everything else until they have >extracted the last drop of free work they can, then they will >jettison him. If they simply cannot find any ignoramuses then >I've seen them try deputizing some sales guy or secretary to manage >their Windows deployment, and finally a year afterwards when they >have a house full of Windows XP Home edition and no server, and >a giant workgroup that's falling apart, and they have lost some >critical files because they wern't backing up Sally Sue's workstation >and her disk crashed, then they will panic and overspend on a >Windows installation. > >The CEO's that choose FreeBSD or Linux are the ones where even the >Windows consultants they drag in all tell them "I can't do that" >either because Windows cannot do it, or because the price they >want it done at is so unbelievably cheap that even the ignoramus >Windows consultants can see that it's impossible. > >My take on it is that about 90% of the FreeBSD production installs >are least-cost deals. All of the ones we have ever sold to >customers (and we do both Windows and UNIX projects) are like this. >I'm sure that one of these days we might get a plum contract that >is a high-power server that cannot be done with Windows and the >customer knows it, and wants it done UNIX, it's only a matter of >time. But I would be willing to bet that after they ask if we can >do UNIX and we say yes, their next question will be if we can do >Sun, which we can. And frankly the cost of Solaris for a server is >nothing compared to the labor cost. > >I've frankly never seen a Linux-vs-FreeBSD deal where Linux won >if the consultant wanted to use FreeBSD, and the customer was willing >to deviate from Microsoft. VERY few customers are willing to deviate >from Microsoft, at least not in the Western states. And the ones >that are willing almost always want to do it themselves, and only >want us to come in and set everything up for them while they watch >us over the shoulder and try to get us to teach them how to >do it - because these are people who are too lazy to read the manual >and learn how to do things themselves, they just want someone to >set it up and teach them how to maintain it, so they can pay the >minimum amount of money for the specialist, and spend the minimum >amount of time learning how to do anything. > > > We, the users, might not care about our image, but if we want to be > > taken seriously by the rest of the world we better do something about it! > > > >I would suggest that if you really are this lit up about this issue >that you direct your customers to you OWN website which is quite obviously >superior to the FreeBSD one. > > > > > Clearly, you have not tried to "sell" FreeBSD to a big corporation. > > > >Roger you are just being impatient. You haven't defined 'big' here >but if you mean 'big' in that the company has over 500 employees >in an office building, then even you must know that the check signers >in these companies are almost never under the age of 40. Most >of them are over 40 and most of them came up through the sales ranks, >and not through the technology ranks. These are people who 25 years ago >were partying their way through a business degree in some university >and the only thing that they really know well is how to sell their >companies products. That's why they work at a big company, didn't you >know? Deep down they know they are incompetents and they are too >scared to go out on their own even when they could make triple the >money if they really knew what they were doing. > >They don't really understand anything about technology >infrastructure and they certainly didn't go to grade school or high >school with a personal computer in the house, like kids today. And >the worst part is that they matriculated during the time that in >business education in this country that the 'cog in the machine' aspect >of workers was totally emphasized. Their professors drilled into >their heads the idea that every worker in the company must be >interchangable and they deep down detest and hate the idea of there >being any such thing as 'key employees' > >Why do you think that the current federal government administration >just takes the position that workers need to retrain to the new >economy, as if just retraining 100 million people every 5 years to >new jobs is a good way to run the economy? This is a message that >comes straight out of that generation and resonates with todays >big business movers and shakers. That is why these people are doing >such a terrible job mucking up American big business today, the current >debacle with the airline industry is proof of that, and the amount >of bankruptcies over the last 6 years has been breathtaking. Very >few of these idiots are anything more than closet control freaks. > >To be successful in todays market you have to be able to individualize >your products to what the customers in the market want, and there >is no way for a big business to do that without really drastically >increasing the complexity of it's business workflow. Customers today want >you to stock 100 variations of your product and build all of them to order, >and they want it for the same price that 20 years ago they would >buy the cookie-cutter version you could sell them for. The only >way to do that is to integrate technology completely in every last >speck of business process that a big company does, and it takes a crew of >key technicians to do that. The few big companies that have learned >this aren't asking consultants what the damn operating system is >going to be on the computer systems they are asking the consultants >to build for them. They are telling the consultants 'this is what >the end result needs to be, you either figure out how to get it >for us using whatever things you want to use to get there, or get >the hell out' > >Roger, you really need to be dumbing down your presentations, these >CEO's your presenting to really don't understand all those big >words. Instead of using "FreeBSD" use "UNIX" It's shorter and >even the most sheltered of them understand that yooouu-nikx is >something that runs computers like winders is. And rather >than telling them how many mega-bytes and giga-bits the nice >new server is going to run at, just tell them it's going to be >big, and fast and powerful like Arnold Schwartznegger. Get >them sold on the idea that your providing a -solution to their >problems- not that your providing them some freebsd system >that is real cool and does something they are pretty fuzzy >about exactly what. If they start asking you exactly how your >going to do this don't get sidetracked into a technologists >conversation. > >In fact you might just consider hiring a professional salesperson >that doesen't really know too much about what your selling. These >CEO's really are more interested in things like when your going to >be finished building the new system, who is going to train the >end users, how is it going to help them make money, how much money >are they going to have to pay for it upfront, and how much money >they are going to have to pay for it ongoing. The salesperson should >be figuring all that out with them first. You shouldn't even >be talking about operating systems until you have sold them on >yourself and your company, and if FreeBSD really is an objection >to them, then they should like you enough so that they want you >to build a Linux solution for them. Once you get them hooked and >after a year or so you can switch them over to FreeBSD. > >Ted > >_______________________________________________ >freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org mailing list >http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-advocacy >To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-advocacy-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > > >-- >No virus found in this incoming message. >Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. >Version: 7.0.296 / Virus Database: 265.6.5 - Release Date: 12/26/2004 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.296 / Virus Database: 265.6.5 - Release Date: 12/26/2004 _______________________________________________ freebsd-arch@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-arch To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-arch-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jul 3 00:10:48 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 17DE116A429; Sun, 3 Jul 2005 00:10:30 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ps@mu.org) Received: from elvis.mu.org (elvis.mu.org [192.203.228.196]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4EF7243D69; Sun, 3 Jul 2005 00:09:03 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ps@mu.org) Received: by elvis.mu.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 1A1075DC5C; Sat, 2 Jul 2005 17:08:00 -0700 (PDT) X-Original-To: ps@mu.org Delivered-To: ps@mu.org Received: from mx2.freebsd.org (mx2.freebsd.org [216.136.204.119]) by elvis.mu.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 01C3E5C9B4 for ; Mon, 27 Dec 2004 21:37:04 -0800 (PST) Received: from hub.freebsd.org (hub.freebsd.org [216.136.204.18]) by mx2.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BCD2E55EC3; Tue, 28 Dec 2004 05:36:51 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-arch@freebsd.org) Received: from hub.freebsd.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6106C16A4CF; Tue, 28 Dec 2004 05:36:51 +0000 (GMT) Delivered-To: freebsd-arch@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EDF3616A4CE; Tue, 28 Dec 2004 05:36:45 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com (mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [65.75.192.90]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 15E6643D46; Tue, 28 Dec 2004 05:36:45 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) Received: from tedwin2k (nat-rtr.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [65.75.197.130]) iBS5aav82480; Mon, 27 Dec 2004 21:36:37 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) From: "Ted Mittelstaedt" To: "Roger 'Rocky' Vetterberg" , "Simon Burke" Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.6604 (9.0.2911.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1441 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <41D0AF75.6040500@401.cx> X-BeenThere: freebsd-arch@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Sender: owner-freebsd-arch@freebsd.org Errors-To: owner-freebsd-arch@freebsd.org X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.0.1 (2004-10-22) on elvis.mu.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.6 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=3.0.1 X-Spam-Level: Cc: freebsd-www@freebsd.org, freebsd-arch@freebsd.org, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org Subject: RE: FreeBSD's Visual Identity: Outdated? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Date: Sun, 03 Jul 2005 00:10:49 -0000 X-Original-Date: Mon, 27 Dec 2004 21:36:36 -0800 X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 03 Jul 2005 00:10:49 -0000 > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > [mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]On Behalf Of Roger 'Rocky' > Vetterberg > Sent: Monday, December 27, 2004 4:57 PM > To: Simon Burke > Cc: freebsd-www@freebsd.org; freebsd-arch@freebsd.org; > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org > Subject: Re: FreeBSD's Visual Identity: Outdated? > > > Simon Burke wrote: > [snip] > >>2. If it wasn't for the interesting content and structure of the FreeBSD > >> website, it would be among the less beautiful. Yes, it serves its > >> purpose well by being simple and straight to the point. But > a redesign > >> could offer just the same -- simplicity and accuracy -- without being > >> ugly. > > > > > > Aesthetics are not everything, the web site does what its supposed to > > do. Also i actually like how it looks. > > A lot of people have strong feelings about all these all singing all > > dancing webistes. There is just no need. Keep it simple and easy to > > navigate around thats all thats really important. If the aesthetics > > really matter more than function to such people who use BSD then they > > would probably be not using BSD but either windows or linux, where you > > have a nice pretty GUI to look at all the nice pretty sites. > > This is where I think a lot of people simply does not understand the > problem. Roger I understand the problem, I wrote a book on FreeBSD integration in 2000. The problem is I think you don't understand the problem. > Im a FreeBSD user. I like FreeBSD because it does not have all the > flashy installers and pretty GUI's that many linux distros seems to > have today. That frankly isn't the reason you should like it. You should like it because it works better than most commercial operating systems let alone most operating systems. > But still, Ive been screaming for years for someone to > improve the website. Why? > Anyone that has stood in front of a boardroom full of CEO's or similar > and tried to promote the use of FreeBSD in a big organisation knows > why. They might like all the facts about the os, the rock-solid > stability, the lightning-fast performance and its solid reputation as > a server os, but one look at the website and they will run screaming > towards the nearest linux advocate instead. Most of the CEO's I've dealt with don't give a shit on a shingle about a product website. What they care about is: 'can what I need done be done in a way that is a) cheap and b) works and c) won't lock me in to you' FreeBSD meets criteria A and B really well but it does not meet C. Linux meets A and B but BARELY meets C. Windows definitely meets C and usually meets B and doesen't usually meet A. The problem of course is that A and C are related. If I am a CEO and I sign a FreeBSD or Linux deal - and you are a sole-source provider, then once I have all my business processes into you, I'm locked into you. Once that happens my thought processes are that your going to become very expensive to me - why, because there's no competition to you out there. I'm not going to do that unless I trust you implicitly. And there's very few business people I am ever going to trust implicitly, save perhaps unless your a son or daughter, and even then I may not. You have to understand of course that this is old-school knee-jerk thinking. The CEO's are scared to death of you Roger. They don't understand what your selling, they don't understand how to integrate technology into their systems, they don't even understand their current system. CEO's choose Windows because they think that there's enough Windows guys out there that if they don't like the one they have they can boot him out and get another. They only will give up choosing Windows if they either absolutely cannot afford it, or if Windows simply won't do what they need done. If they cannot afford it, what they will then do is keep dragging Windows consultant after Windows consultant in to present to them, until they stumble over an ignoramus (which is not hard) who over commits himself and promises the world. They will then burn up this guy, threatening lawsuits and everything else until they have extracted the last drop of free work they can, then they will jettison him. If they simply cannot find any ignoramuses then I've seen them try deputizing some sales guy or secretary to manage their Windows deployment, and finally a year afterwards when they have a house full of Windows XP Home edition and no server, and a giant workgroup that's falling apart, and they have lost some critical files because they wern't backing up Sally Sue's workstation and her disk crashed, then they will panic and overspend on a Windows installation. The CEO's that choose FreeBSD or Linux are the ones where even the Windows consultants they drag in all tell them "I can't do that" either because Windows cannot do it, or because the price they want it done at is so unbelievably cheap that even the ignoramus Windows consultants can see that it's impossible. My take on it is that about 90% of the FreeBSD production installs are least-cost deals. All of the ones we have ever sold to customers (and we do both Windows and UNIX projects) are like this. I'm sure that one of these days we might get a plum contract that is a high-power server that cannot be done with Windows and the customer knows it, and wants it done UNIX, it's only a matter of time. But I would be willing to bet that after they ask if we can do UNIX and we say yes, their next question will be if we can do Sun, which we can. And frankly the cost of Solaris for a server is nothing compared to the labor cost. I've frankly never seen a Linux-vs-FreeBSD deal where Linux won if the consultant wanted to use FreeBSD, and the customer was willing to deviate from Microsoft. VERY few customers are willing to deviate from Microsoft, at least not in the Western states. And the ones that are willing almost always want to do it themselves, and only want us to come in and set everything up for them while they watch us over the shoulder and try to get us to teach them how to do it - because these are people who are too lazy to read the manual and learn how to do things themselves, they just want someone to set it up and teach them how to maintain it, so they can pay the minimum amount of money for the specialist, and spend the minimum amount of time learning how to do anything. > We, the users, might not care about our image, but if we want to be > taken seriously by the rest of the world we better do something about it! > I would suggest that if you really are this lit up about this issue that you direct your customers to you OWN website which is quite obviously superior to the FreeBSD one. > > Clearly, you have not tried to "sell" FreeBSD to a big corporation. > Roger you are just being impatient. You haven't defined 'big' here but if you mean 'big' in that the company has over 500 employees in an office building, then even you must know that the check signers in these companies are almost never under the age of 40. Most of them are over 40 and most of them came up through the sales ranks, and not through the technology ranks. These are people who 25 years ago were partying their way through a business degree in some university and the only thing that they really know well is how to sell their companies products. That's why they work at a big company, didn't you know? Deep down they know they are incompetents and they are too scared to go out on their own even when they could make triple the money if they really knew what they were doing. They don't really understand anything about technology infrastructure and they certainly didn't go to grade school or high school with a personal computer in the house, like kids today. And the worst part is that they matriculated during the time that in business education in this country that the 'cog in the machine' aspect of workers was totally emphasized. Their professors drilled into their heads the idea that every worker in the company must be interchangable and they deep down detest and hate the idea of there being any such thing as 'key employees' Why do you think that the current federal government administration just takes the position that workers need to retrain to the new economy, as if just retraining 100 million people every 5 years to new jobs is a good way to run the economy? This is a message that comes straight out of that generation and resonates with todays big business movers and shakers. That is why these people are doing such a terrible job mucking up American big business today, the current debacle with the airline industry is proof of that, and the amount of bankruptcies over the last 6 years has been breathtaking. Very few of these idiots are anything more than closet control freaks. To be successful in todays market you have to be able to individualize your products to what the customers in the market want, and there is no way for a big business to do that without really drastically increasing the complexity of it's business workflow. Customers today want you to stock 100 variations of your product and build all of them to order, and they want it for the same price that 20 years ago they would buy the cookie-cutter version you could sell them for. The only way to do that is to integrate technology completely in every last speck of business process that a big company does, and it takes a crew of key technicians to do that. The few big companies that have learned this aren't asking consultants what the damn operating system is going to be on the computer systems they are asking the consultants to build for them. They are telling the consultants 'this is what the end result needs to be, you either figure out how to get it for us using whatever things you want to use to get there, or get the hell out' Roger, you really need to be dumbing down your presentations, these CEO's your presenting to really don't understand all those big words. Instead of using "FreeBSD" use "UNIX" It's shorter and even the most sheltered of them understand that yooouu-nikx is something that runs computers like winders is. And rather than telling them how many mega-bytes and giga-bits the nice new server is going to run at, just tell them it's going to be big, and fast and powerful like Arnold Schwartznegger. Get them sold on the idea that your providing a -solution to their problems- not that your providing them some freebsd system that is real cool and does something they are pretty fuzzy about exactly what. If they start asking you exactly how your going to do this don't get sidetracked into a technologists conversation. In fact you might just consider hiring a professional salesperson that doesen't really know too much about what your selling. These CEO's really are more interested in things like when your going to be finished building the new system, who is going to train the end users, how is it going to help them make money, how much money are they going to have to pay for it upfront, and how much money they are going to have to pay for it ongoing. The salesperson should be figuring all that out with them first. You shouldn't even be talking about operating systems until you have sold them on yourself and your company, and if FreeBSD really is an objection to them, then they should like you enough so that they want you to build a Linux solution for them. Once you get them hooked and after a year or so you can switch them over to FreeBSD. Ted _______________________________________________ freebsd-arch@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-arch To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-arch-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jul 3 00:10:49 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3B26416A46A; Sun, 3 Jul 2005 00:10:30 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ps@mu.org) Received: from elvis.mu.org (elvis.mu.org [192.203.228.196]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4353A43E88; Sun, 3 Jul 2005 00:09:07 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ps@mu.org) Received: by elvis.mu.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id C545F5DD0C; Sat, 2 Jul 2005 17:08:00 -0700 (PDT) X-Original-To: ps@mu.org Delivered-To: ps@mu.org Received: from mx2.freebsd.org (mx2.freebsd.org [216.136.204.119]) by elvis.mu.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4049F5C99C for ; Wed, 29 Dec 2004 13:18:22 -0800 (PST) Received: from hub.freebsd.org (hub.freebsd.org [216.136.204.18]) by mx2.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9DA4E55F7E; Wed, 29 Dec 2004 21:17:41 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-arch@freebsd.org) Received: from hub.freebsd.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A522016A4F2; Wed, 29 Dec 2004 21:17:39 +0000 (GMT) Delivered-To: freebsd-arch@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 24EBF16A4D4; Wed, 29 Dec 2004 21:17:36 +0000 (GMT) Received: from sccimhc92.asp.att.net (sccimhc92.asp.att.net [63.240.76.166]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 92F6643D5A; Wed, 29 Dec 2004 21:17:35 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from freebsd@nbritton.org) Received: from [192.168.1.10] (12-223-129-46.client.insightbb.com[12.223.129.46]) by sccimhc92.asp.att.net (sccimhc92) with ESMTP id <20041229211733i92002ah50e>; Wed, 29 Dec 2004 21:17:35 +0000 Message-ID: <41D31EE9.5050803@nbritton.org> From: Nikolas Britton User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (X11/20041219) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Ted Mittelstaedt References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-arch@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Sender: owner-freebsd-arch@freebsd.org Errors-To: owner-freebsd-arch@freebsd.org X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.0.1 (2004-10-22) on elvis.mu.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.6 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=3.0.1 X-Spam-Level: Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org, freebsd-www@freebsd.org, Simon Burke , freebsd-arch@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD's Visual Identity: Outdated? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Date: Sun, 03 Jul 2005 00:10:49 -0000 X-Original-Date: Wed, 29 Dec 2004 15:17:29 -0600 X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 03 Jul 2005 00:10:49 -0000 Ted Mittelstaedt wrote: >>nbritton wrote: gain this is are target market; consultants, integrators, vars, etc. I >>bet 80% of them don't even know FreeBSD exists and of the 20% that do >>only 20% would consider using and recommending it based on technical >>merit alone. >> >> >> > >A var that has a thriving Linux consultancy and no FreeBSD experience >isn't going to buy into FreeBSD. The only time your going to get a >consultant with no FreeBSD experience into looking at FreeBSD is if they >can't make a go of it with their existing product line, or if they have >never done consulting before and >are just starting out. > > > > This is one of main point I'm trying to make in all of these talks. How are they ever going to know it's out there and when they do make first contact don't you think we should greet them in a professional manner? Sorry if I mangled the message a bit when I cut out all the fluff. _______________________________________________ freebsd-arch@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-arch To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-arch-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jul 3 00:10:49 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4AD5416A46B; Sun, 3 Jul 2005 00:10:30 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ps@mu.org) Received: from elvis.mu.org (elvis.mu.org [192.203.228.196]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AFAC543E66; Sun, 3 Jul 2005 00:08:57 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ps@mu.org) Received: by elvis.mu.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 126EE5DCEA; Sat, 2 Jul 2005 17:07:59 -0700 (PDT) X-Original-To: ps@mu.org Delivered-To: ps@mu.org Received: from mx2.freebsd.org (mx2.freebsd.org [216.136.204.119]) by elvis.mu.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4D5565C907 for ; Thu, 23 Dec 2004 03:27:51 -0800 (PST) Received: from hub.freebsd.org (hub.freebsd.org [216.136.204.18]) by mx2.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 27A2156AD9; Thu, 23 Dec 2004 11:27:44 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-arch@freebsd.org) Received: from hub.freebsd.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CF01516A4EE; Thu, 23 Dec 2004 11:27:40 +0000 (GMT) Delivered-To: freebsd-arch@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8025C16A4CE; Thu, 23 Dec 2004 11:27:36 +0000 (GMT) Received: from ninja.terrabionic.com (ninja.terrabionic.com [213.187.181.70]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E671643D48; Thu, 23 Dec 2004 11:27:35 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from johann@terrabionic.com) Received: by ninja.terrabionic.com (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 8D7633C; Thu, 23 Dec 2004 12:27:32 +0100 (CET) From: jsha To: freebsd-arch@freebsd.org, freebsd-www@freebsd.org, freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20041223112731.GA32750@ninja.terrabionic.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="cNdxnHkX5QqsyA0e" Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i X-Operating-System: FreeBSD ninja.terrabionic.com 5.3-STABLE i386 X-Location: Bergen, Norway, Europe X-BeenThere: freebsd-arch@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Sender: owner-freebsd-arch@freebsd.org Errors-To: owner-freebsd-arch@freebsd.org X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.0.1 (2004-10-22) on elvis.mu.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.6 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=3.0.1 X-Spam-Level: Cc: Subject: FreeBSD's Visual Identity: Outdated? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Date: Sun, 03 Jul 2005 00:10:50 -0000 X-Original-Date: Thu, 23 Dec 2004 12:27:31 +0100 X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 03 Jul 2005 00:10:50 -0000 --cNdxnHkX5QqsyA0e Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Hello. I am writing this e-mail hoping that someone will share my thoughts on how the world's best operating system should represent its attributes and users to the rest of the world. Being an architect as well as graphic designer, I feel it is about time for a complete revamp of the visual aesthetics of the FreeBSD project. The current logo and everything pertaining to it has long since lost its modern touch. I believe that if this image is strenghtened, so is the way outsiders view the FreeBSD project and the way they would judge it compared to other open source operating systems. 1. Not only is the logo misleading (associating evil) but it also looks like something 10-year-olds could produce in Paint Shop Pro ten years ago. OpenBSD has an artistic touch to theirs, however I was very disappointed when I heard that the new NetBSD logo was in effect. 2. If it wasn't for the interesting content and structure of the FreeBSD website, it would be among the less beautiful. Yes, it serves its purpose well by being simple and straight to the point. But a redesign could offer just the same -- simplicity and accuracy -- without being ugly. 3. The installation, even though it's text-only, could also be improved by simple restructuring to act more cognitive and human-centered than previously. Everything pertaining to the eye is important to improve. 4. There should be some kind of FreeBSD business card and letterhead available to all that support this project. How do I know though, that if I manage to pull together a team to work on this refined vision, that we won't be totally ignored even though we produce the most magnificent result? Anyone that are interested, please reply ;-) Sincerely, Johann Manaf Tepstad -- j. --cNdxnHkX5QqsyA0e Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.6 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFByqujeF7Rq67IV2wRAlKUAKCl2+j0nGxHSCaA6vVuaKHmWS329ACg38yh cyKa7Mugay7SWji/RX22aIk= =zolu -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --cNdxnHkX5QqsyA0e-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jul 3 00:10:50 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6924716A470; Sun, 3 Jul 2005 00:10:30 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ps@mu.org) Received: from elvis.mu.org (elvis.mu.org [192.203.228.196]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A8EB843E7B; Sun, 3 Jul 2005 00:09:03 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ps@mu.org) Received: by elvis.mu.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id D6D385DD03; Sat, 2 Jul 2005 17:07:59 -0700 (PDT) X-Original-To: ps@mu.org Delivered-To: ps@mu.org Received: from mx2.freebsd.org (mx2.freebsd.org [216.136.204.119]) by elvis.mu.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 922DA5C8B1 for ; Tue, 28 Dec 2004 04:52:08 -0800 (PST) Received: from hub.freebsd.org (hub.freebsd.org [216.136.204.18]) by mx2.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8F4E156267; Tue, 28 Dec 2004 12:50:47 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-arch@freebsd.org) Received: from hub.freebsd.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A2F9616A4D0; Tue, 28 Dec 2004 12:50:39 +0000 (GMT) Delivered-To: freebsd-arch@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 61A0F16A540; Tue, 28 Dec 2004 12:50:13 +0000 (GMT) Received: from sccimhc91.asp.att.net (sccimhc91.asp.att.net [63.240.76.165]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B840343D5D; Tue, 28 Dec 2004 12:50:12 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from freebsd@nbritton.org) Received: from [192.168.1.10] (12-223-129-46.client.insightbb.com[12.223.129.46]) by sccimhc91.asp.att.net (sccimhc91) with ESMTP id <20041228125011i9100rfdmee>; Tue, 28 Dec 2004 12:50:12 +0000 Message-ID: <41D1567F.9000901@nbritton.org> From: Nikolas Britton User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (X11/20041219) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Ted Mittelstaedt References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-arch@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Sender: owner-freebsd-arch@freebsd.org Errors-To: owner-freebsd-arch@freebsd.org X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.0.1 (2004-10-22) on elvis.mu.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.6 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=3.0.1 X-Spam-Level: Cc: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, freebsd-www@freebsd.org, freebsd-arch@freebsd.org, Simon Burke Subject: Re: FreeBSD's Visual Identity: Outdated? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Date: Sun, 03 Jul 2005 00:10:51 -0000 X-Original-Date: Tue, 28 Dec 2004 06:50:07 -0600 X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 03 Jul 2005 00:10:51 -0000 Ted Mittelstaedt wrote: > > >>-----Original Message----- >>From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org >>[mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]On Behalf Of Roger 'Rocky' >>Vetterberg >>Sent: Monday, December 27, 2004 4:57 PM >>To: Simon Burke >>Cc: freebsd-www@freebsd.org; freebsd-arch@freebsd.org; >>freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org >>Subject: Re: FreeBSD's Visual Identity: Outdated? >> >> >> >> > > >>Im a FreeBSD user. I like FreeBSD because it does not have all the >>flashy installers and pretty GUI's that many linux distros seems to >>have today. >> >> > >That frankly isn't the reason you should like it. You should like it >because it works better than most commercial operating systems let >alone most operating systems. > > It does, and that is why I use it. Amiga was like that too. > > >>But still, Ive been screaming for years for someone to >>improve the website. Why? >>Anyone that has stood in front of a boardroom full of CEO's or similar >>and tried to promote the use of FreeBSD in a big organisation knows >>why. They might like all the facts about the os, the rock-solid >>stability, the lightning-fast performance and its solid reputation as >>a server os, but one look at the website and they will run screaming >>towards the nearest linux advocate instead. >> >> > >Most of the CEO's I've dealt with don't give a shit on a shingle about >a product website. > Why are you even talking to CEOs? This is a job for CTOs and/or CIOs, and if a company didn't have one you wound then be talking to a CFO or COO. >What they care about is: 'can what I need done >be done in a way that is a) cheap and b) works and c) won't lock me >in to you' > > d) support. e) what everyone else uses. Most companys only care about d and e as windows is nether a, b, or c... umm how'd it go... "No one ever got fired for buying IBM" >I've frankly never seen a Linux-vs-FreeBSD deal where Linux won >if the consultant wanted to use FreeBSD, > You assuming the consultant even knows about FreeBSD, most do not. >and the customer was willing >to deviate from Microsoft. > Know your market, we are not trying to get them to switch to FreeBSD from Windows, we are the alternative to the alternative for a company that has already decide to go with the alternative instead of windows. > VERY few customers are willing to deviate >from Microsoft, at least not in the Western states. > On the desktop yes, but where not talking about desktops here, where talking about servers and Linux has its claws all over the server market. > > >>We, the users, might not care about our image, but if we want to be >>taken seriously by the rest of the world we better do something about it! >> >> >> > >I would suggest that if you really are this lit up about this issue >that you direct your customers to you OWN website which is quite obviously >superior to the FreeBSD one. > > Now thats just asinine. > >Roger, you really need to be dumbing down your presentations, these >CEO's your presenting to really don't understand all those big >words. Instead of using "FreeBSD" use "UNIX" It's shorter and >even the most sheltered of them understand that yooouu-nikx is >something that runs computers like winders is. > I'm sorry to say but anyone outside of IT/IS/MIS has no clue what UNIX is. at best they mistake it for Linux. >And rather >than telling them how many mega-bytes and giga-bits the nice >new server is going to run at, just tell them it's going to be >big, and fast and powerful like Arnold Schwartznegger. > I agree with you about the megabit and bytes but you have gone to far to the other extreme, they are not stupid, the CEO's job is to keep the company afloat not know what a megabyte is, this is why we have CTOs and CIOs. > >In fact you might just consider hiring a professional salesperson >that doesen't really know too much about what your selling. > this is a good idea, I'd have to agree with him. >You shouldn't even >be talking about operating systems until you have sold them on >yourself and your company, > Again this is are target market; consultants, integrators, vars, etc. I bet 80% of them don't even know FreeBSD exists and of the 20% that do only 20% would consider using and recommending it based on technical merit alone. I want a part of the linux pie! _______________________________________________ freebsd-arch@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-arch To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-arch-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jul 3 00:10:51 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 58E9D16A46D; Sun, 3 Jul 2005 00:10:30 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ps@mu.org) Received: from elvis.mu.org (elvis.mu.org [192.203.228.196]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A901A43E76; Sun, 3 Jul 2005 00:09:02 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ps@mu.org) Received: by elvis.mu.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 99C715DCF7; Sat, 2 Jul 2005 17:07:59 -0700 (PDT) X-Original-To: ps@mu.org Delivered-To: ps@mu.org Received: from mx2.freebsd.org (mx2.freebsd.org [216.136.204.119]) by elvis.mu.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 10F065C99E for ; Sun, 26 Dec 2004 06:20:48 -0800 (PST) Received: from hub.freebsd.org (hub.freebsd.org [216.136.204.18]) by mx2.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B28115564D; Sun, 26 Dec 2004 14:20:47 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-arch@freebsd.org) Received: from hub.freebsd.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3258A16A4D6; Sun, 26 Dec 2004 14:20:47 +0000 (GMT) Delivered-To: freebsd-arch@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AAA5916A4CE; Sun, 26 Dec 2004 14:20:45 +0000 (GMT) Received: from kenmore.kozy-kabin.nl (fia148-72.dsl.hccnet.nl [62.251.72.148]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B331943D3F; Sun, 26 Dec 2004 14:20:43 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from colin@kenmore.kozy-kabin.nl) Received: from localhost (colin@localhost) by kenmore.kozy-kabin.nl (8.11.6p2/8.11.6) with ESMTP id iBQEKbh02406; Sun, 26 Dec 2004 15:20:37 +0100 (CET) From: "Colin J. Raven" To: Nikolas Britton In-Reply-To: <41CD7D41.4070206@nbritton.org> Message-ID: References: <20041223112731.GA32750@ninja.terrabionic.com> <41CB9F16.1010405@nbritton.org> <41CBA2D5.4070700@makeworld.com> <20041224142246.GB779@gothmog.gr> <41CC9DE0.6010500@makeworld.com> <41CD7D41.4070206@nbritton.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: QUOTED-PRINTABLE X-BeenThere: freebsd-arch@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Sender: owner-freebsd-arch@freebsd.org Errors-To: owner-freebsd-arch@freebsd.org X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.0.1 (2004-10-22) on elvis.mu.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.6 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=3.0.1 X-Spam-Level: Cc: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org, freebsd-www@freebsd.org, Giorgos Keramidas , freebsd-arch@freebsd.org, =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Dag-Erling_Sm=F8rgrav?= , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD's Visual Identity: Outdated? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Date: Sun, 03 Jul 2005 00:10:51 -0000 X-Original-Date: Sun, 26 Dec 2004 15:20:36 +0100 X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 03 Jul 2005 00:10:51 -0000 On Dec 25, Nikolas Britton responded thusly: > Colin J. Raven wrote: > >> On Dec 25, Dag-Erling Sm=F8rgrav launched this into the bitstream: >>=20 >>> Chris writes: >>>=20 >>>> One does not need to know how to rebuild an engine to know how to >>>> drive the car. >>>=20 >>>=20 >>> One should not criticize the design of an engine while vehemently >>> claiming to have no interest in how enginges are built. >>=20 >>=20 >> One should not buy a car without at least knowing the general specs of t= he=20 >> engine. > > > One should not buy a car without at least looking under the hood, kicking= the=20 > tires, and taking it for a test drive. > One should not need to strike tires with one's footwear in order to=20 determine the suitability of the vehicle. Regards, -Colin -- Colin J. Raven 3:19PM up 4:20, 2 users, load averages: 1.76, 1.63, 1.59 Today's Random Silliness: "There's a disturbance in the force, OK...who didn't flush the toilet?" _______________________________________________ freebsd-arch@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-arch To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-arch-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jul 3 00:10:51 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BEF8B16A48B; Sun, 3 Jul 2005 00:10:30 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ps@mu.org) Received: from elvis.mu.org (elvis.mu.org [192.203.228.196]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7CEC843E71; Sun, 3 Jul 2005 00:09:01 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ps@mu.org) Received: by elvis.mu.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 6FCDF5DCEF; Sat, 2 Jul 2005 17:07:59 -0700 (PDT) X-Original-To: ps@mu.org Delivered-To: ps@mu.org Received: from mx2.freebsd.org (mx2.freebsd.org [216.136.204.119]) by elvis.mu.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 688F75C97C for ; Fri, 24 Dec 2004 04:28:50 -0800 (PST) Received: from hub.freebsd.org (hub.freebsd.org [216.136.204.18]) by mx2.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C294156210; Fri, 24 Dec 2004 12:28:49 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-arch@freebsd.org) Received: from hub.freebsd.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4E41316A4D4; Fri, 24 Dec 2004 12:28:49 +0000 (GMT) Delivered-To: freebsd-arch@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 26E3016A4CE; Fri, 24 Dec 2004 12:28:46 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mailout06.sul.t-online.com (mailout06.sul.t-online.com [194.25.134.19]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3F53443D41; Fri, 24 Dec 2004 12:28:45 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from Alexander@Leidinger.net) Received: from fwd11.aul.t-online.de by mailout06.sul.t-online.com with smtp id 1ChoYg-0001VZ-01; Fri, 24 Dec 2004 13:28:38 +0100 Received: from Andro-Beta.Leidinger.net (bKaf0MZdYeQPMQMJB40AhL4GJu8YPhTwvnZAlAp6i7v7NjqgEgsd8H@[217.229.222.40]) by fmrl11.sul.t-online.com with esmtp id 1ChoYM-0Wvk8W0; Fri, 24 Dec 2004 13:28:18 +0100 Received: from Magellan.Leidinger.net (Magellan.Leidinger.net [192.168.1.1]) iBOCS9tj059543; Fri, 24 Dec 2004 13:28:09 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from Alexander@Leidinger.net) From: Alexander Leidinger To: freebsd-arch@freebsd.org, freebsd-www@freebsd.org, freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, jsha Message-ID: <20041224132825.023fc5ee@Magellan.Leidinger.net> In-Reply-To: <20041223112731.GA32750@ninja.terrabionic.com> References: <20041223112731.GA32750@ninja.terrabionic.com> X-Mailer: Sylpheed-Claws 0.9.13 (GTK+ 1.2.10; i386-portbld-freebsd6.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-ID: bKaf0MZdYeQPMQMJB40AhL4GJu8YPhTwvnZAlAp6i7v7NjqgEgsd8H@t-dialin.net X-TOI-MSGID: 50e9a8d7-c00a-455f-8a4b-268e48bfb6f7 X-BeenThere: freebsd-arch@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Sender: owner-freebsd-arch@freebsd.org Errors-To: owner-freebsd-arch@freebsd.org X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.0.1 (2004-10-22) on elvis.mu.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.6 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=3.0.1 X-Spam-Level: Cc: Subject: Re: FreeBSD's Visual Identity: Outdated? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Date: Sun, 03 Jul 2005 00:10:52 -0000 X-Original-Date: Fri, 24 Dec 2004 13:28:25 +0100 X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 03 Jul 2005 00:10:52 -0000 On Thu, 23 Dec 2004 12:27:31 +0100 jsha wrote: > I am writing this e-mail hoping that someone will share my thoughts > on how the world's best operating system should represent its attributes > and users to the rest of the world. You know that you write this a t a time where a lot of people are visiting their family and don't have email access or don't read the mailinglists? At least this is the case for a lot of FreeBSD committers. > Being an architect as well as graphic designer, I feel it is about time > for a complete revamp of the visual aesthetics of the FreeBSD project. Even if a lot of committers won't/can't answer now: there are people which agree with you (maybe not all, but you know what we say about bikesheds, don't you?). > The current logo and everything pertaining to it has long since lost its > modern touch. I believe that if this image is strenghtened, so is the > way outsiders view the FreeBSD project and the way they would judge it > compared to other open source operating systems. > > 1. Not only is the logo misleading (associating evil) but it also looks We had an discussion a while ago about this. The way I understand the conclusion is: we have a mascot, but no logo (we may use our mascot like other people use a logo ATM). And we want to keep the mascot. We may be interested in a logo, but a logo is a bikeshed topic. Since we're more developers than designers, nobody stepped up to proceed on this topic (at least I don't know about it if someone proceeded further). If you want to put your energy into creating a logo, there will be people which listen to you. > like something 10-year-olds could produce in Paint Shop Pro ten years > ago. OpenBSD has an artistic touch to theirs, however I was very > disappointed when I heard that the new NetBSD logo was in effect. This is a little bit harsh. I suggest to stay with facts and suggestions. Keep such rants for your personal pleasure, we don't need them. > 2. If it wasn't for the interesting content and structure of the FreeBSD > website, it would be among the less beautiful. Yes, it serves its > purpose well by being simple and straight to the point. But a redesign > could offer just the same -- simplicity and accuracy -- without being > ugly. The doc team is progressing in this direction... at least if I read the content between the lines of commit logs right. I think they try to separate the content from the design at the moment (the prerequisite to use the full power of CSS). I suggest to get in contact with them to not reinvent the wheel. > 3. The installation, even though it's text-only, could also be improved > by simple restructuring to act more cognitive and human-centered than > previously. Everything pertaining to the eye is important to improve. Yes. AFAIK the Freesbie project is integrating the bsdinstaller (the installer DragonFly uses) ATM. We will see how this works out and depending on this there may be interest to integrate the installer into FreeBSD. > 4. There should be some kind of FreeBSD business card and letterhead > available to all that support this project. Even if there are some people which don't think this is needed, I like this idea. In may day to day job I'm working as a consultant, so I know where/how/why this may be beneficial (or not). > How do I know though, that if I manage to pull together a team to work > on this refined vision, that we won't be totally ignored even though we > produce the most magnificent result? We can't guarantee that any of your work will be adopted, but I don't think your work will be ignored (be prepared to get a lot of critique... positive and negative one). Bye, Alexander. -- The best things in life are free, but the expensive ones are still worth a look. http://www.Leidinger.net Alexander @ Leidinger.net GPG fingerprint = C518 BC70 E67F 143F BE91 3365 79E2 9C60 B006 3FE7 _______________________________________________ freebsd-arch@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-arch To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-arch-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jul 3 00:10:52 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C43DD16A48E; Sun, 3 Jul 2005 00:10:30 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ps@mu.org) Received: from elvis.mu.org (elvis.mu.org [192.203.228.196]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 70D8843E7D; Sun, 3 Jul 2005 00:09:04 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ps@mu.org) Received: by elvis.mu.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 33C2A5DCA2; Sat, 2 Jul 2005 17:08:00 -0700 (PDT) X-Original-To: ps@mu.org Delivered-To: ps@mu.org Received: from mx2.freebsd.org (mx2.freebsd.org [216.136.204.119]) by elvis.mu.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 038FE5C9BC for ; Mon, 27 Dec 2004 18:46:51 -0800 (PST) Received: from hub.freebsd.org (hub.freebsd.org [216.136.204.18]) by mx2.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 93E4356A1B; Tue, 28 Dec 2004 02:46:09 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-arch@freebsd.org) Received: from hub.freebsd.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3378416A4CE; Tue, 28 Dec 2004 02:46:09 +0000 (GMT) Delivered-To: freebsd-arch@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7BCEB16A4CE; Tue, 28 Dec 2004 02:46:04 +0000 (GMT) Received: from sccimhc91.asp.att.net (sccimhc91.asp.att.net [63.240.76.165]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C13D643D45; Tue, 28 Dec 2004 02:46:03 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from freebsd@nbritton.org) Received: from [192.168.1.10] (12-223-129-46.client.insightbb.com[12.223.129.46]) by sccimhc91.asp.att.net (sccimhc91) with ESMTP id <20041228024602i9100rffrre>; Tue, 28 Dec 2004 02:46:03 +0000 Message-ID: <41D0C8E6.2040609@nbritton.org> From: Nikolas Britton User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (X11/20041219) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Frank Pawlak References: <20041223112731.GA32750@ninja.terrabionic.com> <2d7d2dd2041223035969e056d8@mail.gmail.com> <41D0AF75.6040500@401.cx> <6.0.3.0.2.20041227193622.02850750@pop-server.wi.rr.com> In-Reply-To: <6.0.3.0.2.20041227193622.02850750@pop-server.wi.rr.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-arch@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Sender: owner-freebsd-arch@freebsd.org Errors-To: owner-freebsd-arch@freebsd.org X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.0.1 (2004-10-22) on elvis.mu.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.6 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=3.0.1 X-Spam-Level: Cc: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, freebsd-www@freebsd.org, freebsd-arch@freebsd.org, Simon Burke Subject: Re: FreeBSD's Visual Identity: Outdated? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Date: Sun, 03 Jul 2005 00:10:52 -0000 X-Original-Date: Mon, 27 Dec 2004 20:45:58 -0600 X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 03 Jul 2005 00:10:52 -0000 Frank Pawlak wrote: > This is one of several issues that have been brought up on an almost > periodic basis for the past several years. There have been several > attempts by various folks, including a rather ambitious one by this > author, and all have died because of severe lack of interest. It has > been a few years since I have posted to this news group but my advise > to you is to give it up. You will only meet with much frustration, > apathy, and something along the lines of " if you don't like it fix it > yourself". I say we keep on rehashing this everyday until someone does it just to shut us up. ;-) Has there ever been an attempt at forming a group so us like minded people "can" fix it ourselfs? > > I consider this very unfortunate, because has some commercial > properties that could well be more attractive than other OS'S. The > development team just is not interested in this issue. I have fought > many a battle in years past over marketing issues with members of the > core team and others. OK, everyone lets see you flame throwers..... > Wes Petters, Jordan Hubbard, are you out there....;-) > > Frank > > At 06:57 PM 12/27/2004, Roger 'Rocky' Vetterberg wrote: > >> Simon Burke wrote: >> [snip] >> >>>> 2. If it wasn't for the interesting content and structure of the >>>> FreeBSD >>>> website, it would be among the less beautiful. Yes, it serves its >>>> purpose well by being simple and straight to the point. But a >>>> redesign >>>> could offer just the same -- simplicity and accuracy -- without >>>> being >>>> ugly. >>> >>> >>> Aesthetics are not everything, the web site does what its supposed to >>> do. Also i actually like how it looks. >>> A lot of people have strong feelings about all these all singing all >>> dancing webistes. There is just no need. Keep it simple and easy to >>> navigate around thats all thats really important. If the aesthetics >>> really matter more than function to such people who use BSD then they >>> would probably be not using BSD but either windows or linux, where you >>> have a nice pretty GUI to look at all the nice pretty sites. >> >> >> This is where I think a lot of people simply does not understand the >> problem. >> Im a FreeBSD user. I like FreeBSD because it does not have all the >> flashy installers and pretty GUI's that many linux distros seems to >> have today. But still, Ive been screaming for years for someone to >> improve the website. Why? >> Anyone that has stood in front of a boardroom full of CEO's or >> similar and tried to promote the use of FreeBSD in a big organisation >> knows why. They might like all the facts about the os, the rock-solid >> stability, the lightning-fast performance and its solid reputation as >> a server os, but one look at the website and they will run screaming >> towards the nearest linux advocate instead. >> We, the users, might not care about our image, but if we want to be >> taken seriously by the rest of the world we better do something about >> it! >> >> [snip] >> >>>> 4. There should be some kind of FreeBSD business card and letterhead >>>> available to all that support this project. >>> >>> >>> I have to ask why? why would people need such things? that i just dont >>> understand >> >> >> Clearly, you have not tried to "sell" FreeBSD to a big corporation. >> >> -- >> R >> _______________________________________________ >> freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org mailing list >> http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-advocacy >> To unsubscribe, send any mail to >> "freebsd-advocacy-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" >> >> >> >> -- >> No virus found in this incoming message. >> Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. >> Version: 7.0.296 / Virus Database: 265.6.5 - Release Date: 12/26/2004 > > > _______________________________________________ freebsd-arch@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-arch To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-arch-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jul 3 00:10:52 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3743616A41C; Sun, 3 Jul 2005 00:10:31 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ps@mu.org) Received: from elvis.mu.org (elvis.mu.org [192.203.228.196]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 142EB43E4F; Sun, 3 Jul 2005 00:08:54 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ps@mu.org) Received: by elvis.mu.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 9AC515DCD2; Sat, 2 Jul 2005 17:07:58 -0700 (PDT) X-Original-To: ps@mu.org Delivered-To: ps@mu.org Received: from mx2.freebsd.org (mx2.freebsd.org [216.136.204.119]) by elvis.mu.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9A7185C8B1 for ; Fri, 24 Dec 2004 15:09:55 -0800 (PST) Received: from hub.freebsd.org (hub.freebsd.org [216.136.204.18]) by mx2.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1417255E77; Fri, 24 Dec 2004 23:09:55 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-arch@freebsd.org) Received: from hub.freebsd.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B631616A4DA; Fri, 24 Dec 2004 23:09:53 +0000 (GMT) Delivered-To: freebsd-arch@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 319FF16A4D0; Fri, 24 Dec 2004 23:09:18 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtp.des.no (flood.des.no [217.116.83.31]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6D3BD43D46; Fri, 24 Dec 2004 23:09:17 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from des@des.no) Received: by smtp.des.no (Pony Express, from userid 666) id C59B5530C; Sat, 25 Dec 2004 00:09:15 +0100 (CET) Received: from dwp.des.no (des.no [80.203.228.37]) by smtp.des.no (Pony Express) with ESMTP id 97A485308; Sat, 25 Dec 2004 00:08:45 +0100 (CET) Received: by dwp.des.no (Postfix, from userid 2602) id 08838B874; Sat, 25 Dec 2004 00:08:44 +0100 (CET) To: Chris References: <20041223112731.GA32750@ninja.terrabionic.com> <89b41e4704122303546aaa8d83@mail.gmail.com> <20041223133440.GC786@myrddin.originative.co.uk> <41CB9F16.1010405@nbritton.org> <41CBA2D5.4070700@makeworld.com> <20041224142246.GB779@gothmog.gr> <41CC9DE0.6010500@makeworld.com> From: des@des.no (=?iso-8859-1?q?Dag-Erling_Sm=F8rgrav?=) In-Reply-To: <41CC9DE0.6010500@makeworld.com> (racerx@makeworld.com's message of "Fri, 24 Dec 2004 16:53:20 -0600") Message-ID: User-Agent: Gnus/5.110002 (No Gnus v0.2) Emacs/21.3 (berkeley-unix) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-BeenThere: freebsd-arch@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Sender: owner-freebsd-arch@freebsd.org Errors-To: owner-freebsd-arch@freebsd.org X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.0.1 (2004-10-22) on elvis.mu.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.8 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=3.0.1 X-Spam-Level: Cc: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org, freebsd-www@freebsd.org, Giorgos Keramidas , freebsd-arch@freebsd.org, Nikolas Britton , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD's Visual Identity: Outdated? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Date: Sun, 03 Jul 2005 00:10:54 -0000 X-Original-Date: Sat, 25 Dec 2004 00:08:44 +0100 X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 03 Jul 2005 00:10:54 -0000 Chris writes: > Dag-Erling Sm=F8rgrav wrote: > > Responding to Chris: CSS is neither outdated nor a Windows thing. You > > apparently need to get an extra clue or two before you rejoin this > > discussion. > Not really - Some years back MS made a big issue about CSS. It was > then that I lost interest in web devel. Besides - web devel isn't my > bag, so I really don't think that I need to have or get a clue. CSS is a W3 standard, but was originally designed by the CTO of Opera Software, a company which is one of Microsoft's more vocal detractors and which recently received a large settlement in a lawsuit regarding Microsoft's (alleged) intentional efforts to make their website render poorly in Opera's browser. IE handles CSS1 badly, and CSS2 almost not at all. Calling it a Windows thing severely misrepresents the facts. > One does not need to know how to rebuild an engine to know how to > drive the car. One should not criticize the design of an engine while vehemently claiming to have no interest in how enginges are built. DES --=20 Dag-Erling Sm=F8rgrav - des@des.no _______________________________________________ freebsd-arch@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-arch To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-arch-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jul 3 00:10:54 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6610F16A498; Sun, 3 Jul 2005 00:10:31 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ps@mu.org) Received: from elvis.mu.org (elvis.mu.org [192.203.228.196]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B297843E7F; Sun, 3 Jul 2005 00:09:05 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ps@mu.org) Received: by elvis.mu.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 5045D5DCC8; Sat, 2 Jul 2005 17:08:00 -0700 (PDT) X-Original-To: ps@mu.org Delivered-To: ps@mu.org Received: from mx2.freebsd.org (mx2.freebsd.org [216.136.204.119]) by elvis.mu.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8D8CF5C9C1 for ; Mon, 27 Dec 2004 17:44:34 -0800 (PST) Received: from hub.freebsd.org (hub.freebsd.org [216.136.204.18]) by mx2.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EF94356B35; Tue, 28 Dec 2004 01:44:09 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-arch@freebsd.org) Received: from hub.freebsd.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B476316A4D5; Tue, 28 Dec 2004 01:44:09 +0000 (GMT) Delivered-To: freebsd-arch@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8DC1816A4CE; Tue, 28 Dec 2004 01:44:06 +0000 (GMT) Received: from ms-smtp-02.rdc-kc.rr.com (ms-smtp-02.rdc-kc.rr.com [24.94.166.122]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F3D5943D5E; Tue, 28 Dec 2004 01:44:05 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from fpawlak@wi.rr.com) Received: from john.wi.rr.com (CPE-24-160-252-207.wi.rr.com [24.160.252.207]) iBS1huIN014267; Mon, 27 Dec 2004 19:43:56 -0600 (CST) Message-Id: <6.0.3.0.2.20041227193622.02850750@pop-server.wi.rr.com> X-Sender: fpawlak@pop-server.wi.rr.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 6.0.3.0 To: "Roger 'Rocky' Vetterberg" , Simon Burke From: Frank Pawlak In-Reply-To: <41D0AF75.6040500@401.cx> References: <20041223112731.GA32750@ninja.terrabionic.com> <2d7d2dd2041223035969e056d8@mail.gmail.com> <41D0AF75.6040500@401.cx> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed; x-avg-checked=avg-ok-235E4711 X-Virus-Scanned: Symantec AntiVirus Scan Engine X-BeenThere: freebsd-arch@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Sender: owner-freebsd-arch@freebsd.org Errors-To: owner-freebsd-arch@freebsd.org X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.0.1 (2004-10-22) on elvis.mu.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.6 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=3.0.1 X-Spam-Level: Cc: freebsd-www@freebsd.org, freebsd-arch@freebsd.org, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD's Visual Identity: Outdated? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Date: Sun, 03 Jul 2005 00:10:55 -0000 X-Original-Date: Mon, 27 Dec 2004 19:44:39 -0600 X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 03 Jul 2005 00:10:55 -0000 This is one of several issues that have been brought up on an almost periodic basis for the past several years. There have been several attempts by various folks, including a rather ambitious one by this author, and all have died because of severe lack of interest. It has been a few years since I have posted to this news group but my advise to you is to give it up. You will only meet with much frustration, apathy, and something along the lines of " if you don't like it fix it yourself". I consider this very unfortunate, because has some commercial properties that could well be more attractive than other OS'S. The development team just is not interested in this issue. I have fought many a battle in years past over marketing issues with members of the core team and others. OK, everyone lets see you flame throwers..... Wes Petters, Jordan Hubbard, are you out there....;-) Frank At 06:57 PM 12/27/2004, Roger 'Rocky' Vetterberg wrote: >Simon Burke wrote: >[snip] >>>2. If it wasn't for the interesting content and structure of the FreeBSD >>> website, it would be among the less beautiful. Yes, it serves its >>> purpose well by being simple and straight to the point. But a redesign >>> could offer just the same -- simplicity and accuracy -- without being >>> ugly. >> >>Aesthetics are not everything, the web site does what its supposed to >>do. Also i actually like how it looks. >>A lot of people have strong feelings about all these all singing all >>dancing webistes. There is just no need. Keep it simple and easy to >>navigate around thats all thats really important. If the aesthetics >>really matter more than function to such people who use BSD then they >>would probably be not using BSD but either windows or linux, where you >>have a nice pretty GUI to look at all the nice pretty sites. > >This is where I think a lot of people simply does not understand the problem. >Im a FreeBSD user. I like FreeBSD because it does not have all the flashy >installers and pretty GUI's that many linux distros seems to have today. >But still, Ive been screaming for years for someone to improve the >website. Why? >Anyone that has stood in front of a boardroom full of CEO's or similar and >tried to promote the use of FreeBSD in a big organisation knows why. They >might like all the facts about the os, the rock-solid stability, the >lightning-fast performance and its solid reputation as a server os, but >one look at the website and they will run screaming towards the nearest >linux advocate instead. >We, the users, might not care about our image, but if we want to be taken >seriously by the rest of the world we better do something about it! > >[snip] >>>4. There should be some kind of FreeBSD business card and letterhead >>> available to all that support this project. >> >>I have to ask why? why would people need such things? that i just dont >>understand > >Clearly, you have not tried to "sell" FreeBSD to a big corporation. > >-- >R >_______________________________________________ >freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org mailing list >http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-advocacy >To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-advocacy-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > > >-- >No virus found in this incoming message. >Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. >Version: 7.0.296 / Virus Database: 265.6.5 - Release Date: 12/26/2004 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.296 / Virus Database: 265.6.5 - Release Date: 12/26/2004 _______________________________________________ freebsd-arch@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-arch To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-arch-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jul 3 00:10:55 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5C7F516A48F; Sun, 3 Jul 2005 00:10:31 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ps@mu.org) Received: from elvis.mu.org (elvis.mu.org [192.203.228.196]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B159C43E69; Sun, 3 Jul 2005 00:08:58 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ps@mu.org) Received: by elvis.mu.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 1F2105DC99; Sat, 2 Jul 2005 17:07:59 -0700 (PDT) X-Original-To: ps@mu.org Delivered-To: ps@mu.org Received: from mx2.freebsd.org (mx2.freebsd.org [216.136.204.119]) by elvis.mu.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B30BC5C900 for ; Fri, 24 Dec 2004 14:53:05 -0800 (PST) Received: from hub.freebsd.org (hub.freebsd.org [216.136.204.18]) by mx2.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A16A85616F; Fri, 24 Dec 2004 22:52:50 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-arch@freebsd.org) Received: from hub.freebsd.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 61AE816A4E5; Fri, 24 Dec 2004 22:52:48 +0000 (GMT) Delivered-To: freebsd-arch@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6046E16A4CE; Fri, 24 Dec 2004 22:52:45 +0000 (GMT) Received: from makeworld.com (makeworld.com [198.92.228.38]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0026143D3F; Fri, 24 Dec 2004 22:52:44 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from racerx@makeworld.com) Received: from localhost (localhost.com [127.0.0.1]) by makeworld.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 12E8A60ED; Fri, 24 Dec 2004 16:52:44 -0600 (CST) Received: from makeworld.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (makeworld.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 53695-07; Fri, 24 Dec 2004 16:52:41 -0600 (CST) Received: from [198.92.228.34] (racerx.makeworld.com [198.92.228.34]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by makeworld.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id EBA2A60E4; Fri, 24 Dec 2004 16:52:40 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <41CC9DE0.6010500@makeworld.com> From: Chris User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (X11/20041218) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Dag-Erling_Sm=F8rgrav?= References: <20041223112731.GA32750@ninja.terrabionic.com> <89b41e4704122303546aaa8d83@mail.gmail.com> <20041223133440.GC786@myrddin.originative.co.uk> <41CB9F16.1010405@nbritton.org> <41CBA2D5.4070700@makeworld.com> <20041224142246.GB779@gothmog.gr> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Virus-Scanned: by ClamAV 0.75.1/amavisd-new-2.2.0 (20041102) at makeworld.com - Isn't it ironic X-BeenThere: freebsd-arch@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Sender: owner-freebsd-arch@freebsd.org Errors-To: owner-freebsd-arch@freebsd.org X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.0.1 (2004-10-22) on elvis.mu.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.6 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=3.0.1 X-Spam-Level: Cc: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org, freebsd-www@freebsd.org, Giorgos Keramidas , freebsd-arch@freebsd.org, Nikolas Britton , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD's Visual Identity: Outdated? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Date: Sun, 03 Jul 2005 00:10:55 -0000 X-Original-Date: Fri, 24 Dec 2004 16:53:20 -0600 X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 03 Jul 2005 00:10:55 -0000 Dag-Erling Smørgrav wrote: > Giorgos Keramidas writes: > >>On 2004-12-23 23:02, Chris wrote: >> >>>Nikolas Britton wrote: >>> >>>>2. I cringe when I see Times New Roman, again redo the whole site >>>>with a modern web font: Arial, Helvetica, Verdana, Etc. (ever here of >>>>Cascading Style Sheets?) >>> >>>CSS? Isnt that a bit outdated? Isnt that more a Windows thing? > Responding to Chris: CSS is neither outdated nor a Windows thing. You > apparently need to get an extra clue or two before you rejoin this > discussion. Not really - Some years back MS made a big issue about CSS. It was then that I lost interest in web devel. Besides - web devel isn't my bag, so I really don't think that I need to have or get a clue. One does not need to know how to rebuild an engine to know how to drive the car. -- Best regards, Chris You can't expect to hit the jackpot if you don't put a few nickles in the machine. _______________________________________________ freebsd-arch@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-arch To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-arch-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jul 3 00:10:55 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6B93D16A49A; Sun, 3 Jul 2005 00:10:31 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ps@mu.org) Received: from elvis.mu.org (elvis.mu.org [192.203.228.196]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B4C8443E80; Sun, 3 Jul 2005 00:09:05 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ps@mu.org) Received: by elvis.mu.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 81A225DCDC; Sat, 2 Jul 2005 17:08:00 -0700 (PDT) X-Original-To: ps@mu.org Delivered-To: ps@mu.org Received: from mx2.freebsd.org (mx2.freebsd.org [216.136.204.119]) by elvis.mu.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2E3675C9BB for ; Mon, 27 Dec 2004 16:52:46 -0800 (PST) Received: from hub.freebsd.org (hub.freebsd.org [216.136.204.18]) by mx2.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3B73A56AB5; Tue, 28 Dec 2004 00:52:44 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-arch@freebsd.org) Received: from hub.freebsd.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9389616A4F2; Tue, 28 Dec 2004 00:52:40 +0000 (GMT) Delivered-To: freebsd-arch@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E034016A4CE; Tue, 28 Dec 2004 00:51:43 +0000 (GMT) Received: from rambo.401.cx (rambo.401.cx [80.65.205.166]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 151B243D39; Tue, 28 Dec 2004 00:51:43 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from listsub@401.cx) Received: from [127.0.0.1] (rocky [192.168.200.2]) by rambo.401.cx (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id iBS0pe84055972; Tue, 28 Dec 2004 01:51:40 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from listsub@401.cx) Message-ID: <41D0AF75.6040500@401.cx> From: "Roger 'Rocky' Vetterberg" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 0.7.3 (Windows/20040803) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Simon Burke References: <20041223112731.GA32750@ninja.terrabionic.com> <2d7d2dd2041223035969e056d8@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <2d7d2dd2041223035969e056d8@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 0453-0, 12/27/2004), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean X-BeenThere: freebsd-arch@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Sender: owner-freebsd-arch@freebsd.org Errors-To: owner-freebsd-arch@freebsd.org X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.0.1 (2004-10-22) on elvis.mu.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.6 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=3.0.1 X-Spam-Level: Cc: freebsd-www@freebsd.org, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org, freebsd-arch@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD's Visual Identity: Outdated? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Date: Sun, 03 Jul 2005 00:10:56 -0000 X-Original-Date: Tue, 28 Dec 2004 01:57:25 +0100 X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 03 Jul 2005 00:10:56 -0000 Simon Burke wrote: [snip] >>2. If it wasn't for the interesting content and structure of the FreeBSD >> website, it would be among the less beautiful. Yes, it serves its >> purpose well by being simple and straight to the point. But a redesign >> could offer just the same -- simplicity and accuracy -- without being >> ugly. > > > Aesthetics are not everything, the web site does what its supposed to > do. Also i actually like how it looks. > A lot of people have strong feelings about all these all singing all > dancing webistes. There is just no need. Keep it simple and easy to > navigate around thats all thats really important. If the aesthetics > really matter more than function to such people who use BSD then they > would probably be not using BSD but either windows or linux, where you > have a nice pretty GUI to look at all the nice pretty sites. This is where I think a lot of people simply does not understand the problem. Im a FreeBSD user. I like FreeBSD because it does not have all the flashy installers and pretty GUI's that many linux distros seems to have today. But still, Ive been screaming for years for someone to improve the website. Why? Anyone that has stood in front of a boardroom full of CEO's or similar and tried to promote the use of FreeBSD in a big organisation knows why. They might like all the facts about the os, the rock-solid stability, the lightning-fast performance and its solid reputation as a server os, but one look at the website and they will run screaming towards the nearest linux advocate instead. We, the users, might not care about our image, but if we want to be taken seriously by the rest of the world we better do something about it! [snip] >>4. There should be some kind of FreeBSD business card and letterhead >> available to all that support this project. > > > I have to ask why? why would people need such things? that i just dont > understand Clearly, you have not tried to "sell" FreeBSD to a big corporation. -- R _______________________________________________ freebsd-arch@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-arch To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-arch-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jul 3 00:10:56 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8442616A481; Sun, 3 Jul 2005 00:10:31 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ps@mu.org) Received: from elvis.mu.org (elvis.mu.org [192.203.228.196]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5212843E52; Sun, 3 Jul 2005 00:08:55 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ps@mu.org) Received: by elvis.mu.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id BDBB25DCDB; Sat, 2 Jul 2005 17:07:58 -0700 (PDT) X-Original-To: ps@mu.org Delivered-To: ps@mu.org Received: from mx2.freebsd.org (mx2.freebsd.org [216.136.204.119]) by elvis.mu.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C4CFA5C9A7 for ; Thu, 23 Dec 2004 22:10:31 -0800 (PST) Received: from hub.freebsd.org (hub.freebsd.org [216.136.204.18]) by mx2.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 442DC5732F; Fri, 24 Dec 2004 06:09:51 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-arch@freebsd.org) Received: from hub.freebsd.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CFD1416A517; Fri, 24 Dec 2004 06:09:46 +0000 (GMT) Delivered-To: freebsd-arch@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D8D4716A4CE; Fri, 24 Dec 2004 06:09:35 +0000 (GMT) Received: from sccimhc91.asp.att.net (sccimhc91.asp.att.net [63.240.76.165]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3C15943D2F; Fri, 24 Dec 2004 06:09:35 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from freebsd@nbritton.org) Received: from [192.168.1.10] (12-223-129-46.client.insightbb.com[12.223.129.46]) by sccimhc91.asp.att.net (sccimhc91) with ESMTP id <20041224060933i9100rfpj2e>; Fri, 24 Dec 2004 06:09:34 +0000 Message-ID: <41CBB299.4020707@nbritton.org> From: Nikolas Britton User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (X11/20041219) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Chris References: <20041223112731.GA32750@ninja.terrabionic.com> <89b41e4704122303546aaa8d83@mail.gmail.com> <20041223133440.GC786@myrddin.originative.co.uk> <41CB9F16.1010405@nbritton.org> <41CBA2D5.4070700@makeworld.com> In-Reply-To: <41CBA2D5.4070700@makeworld.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-arch@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Sender: owner-freebsd-arch@freebsd.org Errors-To: owner-freebsd-arch@freebsd.org X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.0.1 (2004-10-22) on elvis.mu.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.6 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=3.0.1 X-Spam-Level: Cc: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org, Daniel Blendea , freebsd-www@freebsd.org, jsha , freebsd-arch@freebsd.org, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, Paul Richards Subject: Re: FreeBSD's Visual Identity: Outdated? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Date: Sun, 03 Jul 2005 00:10:56 -0000 X-Original-Date: Fri, 24 Dec 2004 00:09:29 -0600 X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 03 Jul 2005 00:10:56 -0000 Chris wrote: > Nikolas Britton wrote: > >> >>>> From a business perspective we look amateurish. >>> >>> > > I have held off thus far... > >>> >> I REALLY REALLY agree with this point, from the prospective of an >> outsider the website and "Image" conveys a real lack of >> professionalism, which is not true. > > > No you don't - would you prefer multi-colored windows? A penguin? What? hmm?, fuck no I hate penguins (esp Linux ones), there's nothing wrong with chucky > Are we looking into the geo-political correctness as in the like as > the NetBSD project took? No, just a better image in the enterprises and data centers of the world. > >> I'm looking at the start page for FreeBSD right now and here are the >> things I do not like about it (please don't be offended if I step on >> toe's and ego's, I am only trying to better FreeBSD): > > > Here we go - Let's just re engineer life as we know it. Lets also not > offend gays, users of color, males, females, users of religion, users > of no religion, users of Windows, users of Linux, users of DOS, users > of NetWare, etc, etc, etc. How did you extrapolate that from what I said? I guess I did step your toe's and ego, I was only trying to give constructive criticism. > >> 1. The "FreeBSD" logo is crap, not beastie (he's a keeper!!!, I'll >> hunt you down and do bad things to you if you take him away!), Just >> the black wannabe (and badly done) 3D effect "FreeBSD" part, really, >> I hate it. Redo the whole logo in photoshop with a bold, antialiased >> modern web font: (Arial, Helvetica, Verdana, Century Gothic, etc.) >> and forget the whole 3D effect as that is so 90s. Generally all of >> your logo designs are unprofessional (the logos at the bottom of the >> page: FreeBSD MALL, UseNix, Daemon News, and Powered by FreeBSD for >> example) > > > You will do no such thing - see above, read the threads on the NetBSD > site as to the redoing of the "logo" I DON'T want it "redesigned" (like NetBSD did) just re-done... same logo just better looking, image is everything you know. > >> 2. I cringe when I see Times New Roman, again redo the whole site >> with a modern web font: Arial, Helvetica, Verdana, Etc. (ever here of >> Cascading Style Sheets?) > > > CSS? Isnt that a bit outdated? Isnt that more a Windows thing? No, it's a web standard: http://www.w3.org/Style/CSS/ also it would be a good idea to look into XHTML: http://www.w3.org/TR/xhtml1/ > >> 3. The color scheme is not "complementary" anyone who has been to art >> school or taken design classes will know what I talking about, read >> up about basic color theory here: >> http://www.color-wheel-pro.com/color-theory-basics.html (again, ever >> here of Cascading Style Sheets??) > > > Guess what mate - most of us are NOT into art. Yes I can tell, I was trying to offer some helpfull tips > Get real. Deal with the OS, not the look and feel of the site. Do I > really care if a design has passion blue opposed to blue? Yes > > Do you really thing techies are THAT into pastels? I don't like pastels ether, to girly, I like bold and neutral colors. > If you want to re design something (Actually - is sounds like you have > been watching way too much TLC) then get a gig on Monster House. I watch the history channel most of the time or the courses offered by the local college on channel 20 , I really think TLC has gone down hill with all the trading spaces type shows, though page is cute. It's just that I've always had a good eye for this type of stuff. > > >> 4. I like the Beastie logo on the boot loader screen but ASCII art is >> unprofessional... It would be better if you made the color ASCII >> beastie the default. > > > Who cares?!?! It's resource friendly tho... That is true. > >> I have no real issues with the layout of the site and it would be >> nice if the installer was more user friendly but I am content with >> the way it is, maybe you should change the color scheme of the >> installer to match the website? > > > Snip - not worth repeating. > >> FreeBSD is badly in need of a PR/Design/Marketing department. > > > Maybe you can start, The Queer-Eye for the BSD-Guy. If thats what it takes to get FreeBSD out of obscurity and into the enterprise then yes I will, just look at what apple did with BSD and mozilla did with firefox, I don't want to see FreeBSD (or the other BSDs) die into obscurity as I really like them. _______________________________________________ freebsd-arch@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-arch To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-arch-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jul 3 00:10:56 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9BC9A16A4A3; Sun, 3 Jul 2005 00:10:31 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ps@mu.org) Received: from elvis.mu.org (elvis.mu.org [192.203.228.196]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DB01A43E77; Sun, 3 Jul 2005 00:09:02 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ps@mu.org) Received: by elvis.mu.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id A66E55DCF9; Sat, 2 Jul 2005 17:07:59 -0700 (PDT) X-Original-To: ps@mu.org Delivered-To: ps@mu.org Received: from mx2.freebsd.org (mx2.freebsd.org [216.136.204.119]) by elvis.mu.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 503F95C8B1 for ; Sat, 25 Dec 2004 06:46:38 -0800 (PST) Received: from hub.freebsd.org (hub.freebsd.org [216.136.204.18]) by mx2.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6E02F55886; Sat, 25 Dec 2004 14:46:37 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-arch@freebsd.org) Received: from hub.freebsd.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D57F016A4D5; Sat, 25 Dec 2004 14:46:36 +0000 (GMT) Delivered-To: freebsd-arch@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4851C16A4CE; Sat, 25 Dec 2004 14:46:34 +0000 (GMT) Received: from sccimhc91.asp.att.net (sccimhc91.asp.att.net [63.240.76.165]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 99BD043D46; Sat, 25 Dec 2004 14:46:33 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from freebsd@nbritton.org) Received: from [192.168.1.10] (12-223-129-46.client.insightbb.com[12.223.129.46]) by sccimhc91.asp.att.net (sccimhc91) with ESMTP id <20041225144626i9100rfuvme>; Sat, 25 Dec 2004 14:46:33 +0000 Message-ID: <41CD7D41.4070206@nbritton.org> From: Nikolas Britton User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (X11/20041219) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Colin J. Raven" References: <20041223112731.GA32750@ninja.terrabionic.com> <20041223133440.GC786@myrddin.originative.co.uk> <41CB9F16.1010405@nbritton.org> <41CBA2D5.4070700@makeworld.com> <20041224142246.GB779@gothmog.gr> <41CC9DE0.6010500@makeworld.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-arch@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Sender: owner-freebsd-arch@freebsd.org Errors-To: owner-freebsd-arch@freebsd.org X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.0.1 (2004-10-22) on elvis.mu.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.6 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=3.0.1 X-Spam-Level: Cc: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org, freebsd-www@freebsd.org, Giorgos Keramidas , freebsd-arch@freebsd.org, =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Dag-Erling_Sm=F8rgrav?= , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD's Visual Identity: Outdated? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Date: Sun, 03 Jul 2005 00:10:56 -0000 X-Original-Date: Sat, 25 Dec 2004 08:46:25 -0600 X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 03 Jul 2005 00:10:56 -0000 Colin J. Raven wrote: > On Dec 25, Dag-Erling Smørgrav launched this into the bitstream: > >> Chris writes: >> >>> One does not need to know how to rebuild an engine to know how to >>> drive the car. >> >> >> One should not criticize the design of an engine while vehemently >> claiming to have no interest in how enginges are built. > > > One should not buy a car without at least knowing the general specs of > the engine. One should not buy a car without at least looking under the hood, kicking the tires, and taking it for a test drive. Merry Christmas, Nikolas _______________________________________________ freebsd-arch@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-arch To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-arch-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jul 3 00:11:22 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C6AB016A41C; Sun, 3 Jul 2005 00:11:22 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ps@mu.org) Received: from elvis.mu.org (elvis.mu.org [192.203.228.196]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 882B043E74; Sun, 3 Jul 2005 00:09:02 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ps@mu.org) Received: by elvis.mu.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 88D505DCF4; Sat, 2 Jul 2005 17:07:59 -0700 (PDT) X-Original-To: ps@mu.org Delivered-To: ps@mu.org Received: from mx2.freebsd.org (mx2.freebsd.org [216.136.204.119]) by elvis.mu.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AED735C991 for ; Fri, 24 Dec 2004 17:26:49 -0800 (PST) Received: from hub.freebsd.org (hub.freebsd.org [216.136.204.18]) by mx2.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3932D56CC7; Sat, 25 Dec 2004 01:25:53 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-arch@freebsd.org) Received: from hub.freebsd.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0AAD016A4EF; Sat, 25 Dec 2004 01:25:50 +0000 (GMT) Delivered-To: freebsd-arch@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1856E16A4CE; Sat, 25 Dec 2004 01:25:45 +0000 (GMT) Received: from makeworld.com (makeworld.com [198.92.228.38]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A47FF43D2F; Sat, 25 Dec 2004 01:25:44 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from racerx@makeworld.com) Received: from localhost (localhost.com [127.0.0.1]) by makeworld.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7886E60ED; Fri, 24 Dec 2004 19:25:41 -0600 (CST) Received: from makeworld.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (makeworld.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 54454-04; Fri, 24 Dec 2004 19:25:36 -0600 (CST) Received: from [198.92.228.34] (racerx.makeworld.com [198.92.228.34]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by makeworld.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id DA12060E4; Fri, 24 Dec 2004 19:25:35 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <41CCC1B7.4090008@makeworld.com> From: Chris User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (X11/20041218) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Dag-Erling_Sm=F8rgrav?= References: <20041223112731.GA32750@ninja.terrabionic.com> <89b41e4704122303546aaa8d83@mail.gmail.com> <20041223133440.GC786@myrddin.originative.co.uk> <41CB9F16.1010405@nbritton.org> <41CBA2D5.4070700@makeworld.com> <20041224142246.GB779@gothmog.gr> <41CC9DE0.6010500@makeworld.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Virus-Scanned: by ClamAV 0.75.1/amavisd-new-2.2.0 (20041102) at makeworld.com - Isn't it ironic X-BeenThere: freebsd-arch@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Sender: owner-freebsd-arch@freebsd.org Errors-To: owner-freebsd-arch@freebsd.org X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.0.1 (2004-10-22) on elvis.mu.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.6 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=3.0.1 X-Spam-Level: Cc: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org, freebsd-www@freebsd.org, Giorgos Keramidas , freebsd-arch@freebsd.org, Nikolas Britton , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD's Visual Identity: Outdated? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Date: Sun, 03 Jul 2005 00:11:23 -0000 X-Original-Date: Fri, 24 Dec 2004 19:26:15 -0600 X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 03 Jul 2005 00:11:23 -0000 Dag-Erling Smørgrav wrote: > Chris writes: > >>Dag-Erling Smørgrav wrote: >> >>>Responding to Chris: CSS is neither outdated nor a Windows thing. You >>>apparently need to get an extra clue or two before you rejoin this >>>discussion. >> >>Not really - Some years back MS made a big issue about CSS. It was >>then that I lost interest in web devel. Besides - web devel isn't my >>bag, so I really don't think that I need to have or get a clue. > > > CSS is a W3 standard, but was originally designed by the CTO of Opera > Software, a company which is one of Microsoft's more vocal detractors > and which recently received a large settlement in a lawsuit regarding > Microsoft's (alleged) intentional efforts to make their website render > poorly in Opera's browser. IE handles CSS1 badly, and CSS2 almost not > at all. Calling it a Windows thing severely misrepresents the facts. > > >>One does not need to know how to rebuild an engine to know how to >>drive the car. > > > One should not criticize the design of an engine while vehemently > claiming to have no interest in how enginges are built. > > DES Technically - I didn't criticize. Allow me to post verbatim; "CSS? Isnt that a bit outdated? Isnt that more a Windows thing?" Doesn't look like it to me - looks more like a query or two. But that's just me tho - perhaps you read something else? Perhaps too much eggnog? Perhaps not enough? -- Best regards, Chris _______________________________________________ freebsd-arch@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-arch To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-arch-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jul 3 00:11:38 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 03CA016A420; Sun, 3 Jul 2005 00:11:38 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ps@mu.org) Received: from elvis.mu.org (elvis.mu.org [192.203.228.196]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E88FA43E82; Sun, 3 Jul 2005 00:09:06 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ps@mu.org) Received: by elvis.mu.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 9AAC15DCE3; Sat, 2 Jul 2005 17:08:00 -0700 (PDT) X-Original-To: ps@mu.org Delivered-To: ps@mu.org Received: from mx2.freebsd.org (mx2.freebsd.org [216.136.204.119]) by elvis.mu.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DD8B85C9AA for ; Wed, 29 Dec 2004 10:41:08 -0800 (PST) Received: from hub.freebsd.org (hub.freebsd.org [216.136.204.18]) by mx2.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7BF7956999; Wed, 29 Dec 2004 18:41:03 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-arch@freebsd.org) Received: from hub.freebsd.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4D47516A4D9; Wed, 29 Dec 2004 18:41:01 +0000 (GMT) Delivered-To: freebsd-arch@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 29E7D16A4CF; Wed, 29 Dec 2004 18:40:55 +0000 (GMT) Received: from rambo.401.cx (rambo.401.cx [80.65.205.166]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 45C2043D54; Wed, 29 Dec 2004 18:40:54 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from listsub@401.cx) Received: from [127.0.0.1] (rocky [192.168.200.2]) by rambo.401.cx (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id iBTIen84089866; Wed, 29 Dec 2004 19:40:49 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from listsub@401.cx) Message-ID: <41D2FB92.9020508@401.cx> From: "Roger 'Rocky' Vetterberg" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 0.7.3 (Windows/20040803) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Ted Mittelstaedt References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 0453-0, 12/27/2004), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean X-BeenThere: freebsd-arch@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Sender: owner-freebsd-arch@freebsd.org Errors-To: owner-freebsd-arch@freebsd.org X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.0.1 (2004-10-22) on elvis.mu.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.6 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=3.0.1 X-Spam-Level: Cc: freebsd-www@freebsd.org, freebsd-arch@freebsd.org, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org, Simon Burke Subject: Re: FreeBSD's Visual Identity: Outdated? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Date: Sun, 03 Jul 2005 00:11:38 -0000 X-Original-Date: Wed, 29 Dec 2004 19:46:42 +0100 X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 03 Jul 2005 00:11:38 -0000 Ted Mittelstaedt wrote: > >> -----Original Message----- From: >> owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org >> [mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]On Behalf Of Roger >> 'Rocky' Vetterberg Sent: Monday, December 27, 2004 4:57 PM To: >> Simon Burke Cc: freebsd-www@freebsd.org; >> freebsd-arch@freebsd.org; freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; >> freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD's Visual >> Identity: Outdated? >> >> >> Simon Burke wrote: [snip] >> >>>> 2. If it wasn't for the interesting content and structure of >>>> the FreeBSD website, it would be among the less beautiful. >>>> Yes, it serves its purpose well by being simple and straight >>>> to the point. But >> >> a redesign >> >>>> could offer just the same -- simplicity and accuracy -- >>>> without being ugly. >>> >>> >>> Aesthetics are not everything, the web site does what its >>> supposed to do. Also i actually like how it looks. A lot of >>> people have strong feelings about all these all singing all >>> dancing webistes. There is just no need. Keep it simple and >>> easy to navigate around thats all thats really important. If >>> the aesthetics really matter more than function to such people >>> who use BSD then they would probably be not using BSD but >>> either windows or linux, where you have a nice pretty GUI to >>> look at all the nice pretty sites. >> >> This is where I think a lot of people simply does not understand >> the problem. > > > Roger I understand the problem, I wrote a book on FreeBSD > integration in 2000. The problem is I think you don't understand > the problem. > > >> Im a FreeBSD user. I like FreeBSD because it does not have all >> the flashy installers and pretty GUI's that many linux distros >> seems to have today. > > > That frankly isn't the reason you should like it. You should like > it because it works better than most commercial operating systems > let alone most operating systems. "The" reason? Like there was only one reason to like an os? I like FreeBSD due to its lack of bells and whistles, but I also like it due to its stability, performance, ease of use and license, among many other reasons. Maybe I should have made that more clear, I do not wish to come across as a guy that favours an os based on one reason alone. >> But still, Ive been screaming for years for someone to improve >> the website. Why? Anyone that has stood in front of a boardroom >> full of CEO's or similar and tried to promote the use of FreeBSD >> in a big organisation knows why. They might like all the facts >> about the os, the rock-solid stability, the lightning-fast >> performance and its solid reputation as a server os, but one look >> at the website and they will run screaming towards the nearest >> linux advocate instead. > > Most of the CEO's I've dealt with don't give a shit on a shingle > about a product website. What they care about is: 'can what I need > done be done in a way that is a) cheap and b) works and c) won't > lock me in to you' I think we have a missunderstanding here. I already work for a big corporation. When I said that I was trying to sell FreeBSD, I meant that I was trying to get the company that I work for to chose FreeBSD over some other product. Im not a consultant of any kind, Im a fulltime employed technician trying to keep my employers network up and running. > FreeBSD meets criteria A and B really well but it does not meet C. > Linux meets A and B but BARELY meets C. Windows definitely meets C > and usually meets B and doesen't usually meet A. > > The problem of course is that A and C are related. If I am a CEO > and I sign a FreeBSD or Linux deal - and you are a sole-source > provider, then once I have all my business processes into you, I'm > locked into you. Once that happens my thought processes are that > your going to become very expensive to me - why, because there's no > competition to you out there. I'm not going to do that unless I > trust you implicitly. And there's very few business people I am > ever going to trust implicitly, save perhaps unless your a son or > daughter, and even then I may not. > > You have to understand of course that this is old-school knee-jerk > thinking. The CEO's are scared to death of you Roger. They don't > understand what your selling, they don't understand how to > integrate technology into their systems, they don't even understand > their current system. As I explained earlier, Im not selling anything. We are several technicians at my company, some of us prefer BSD while others prefer linux, windows, sun or whatever the flavour of the day is. Everytime we get a new bunch of servers or a new task needs to be done, there is a religious war before we decide what os to use. Most of the time, the board wants a say in decisions like this, and BSD almost always loses this, due to a very unproffesional image. Since the company already has the expertise inhouse, the hardware has been ordered and everything is paid, they dont give a shit about price. When I tell them that BSD can do everything they want and do it good, they listen. When I tell them that its free, they listen but they dont really care. When the linux guys makes exactly the same claims and also is able to back it up with proffesional looking websites with success-stories cluttered all over them, they usually decide to go with linux and goes to lunch. [snip] >> We, the users, might not care about our image, but if we want to >> be taken seriously by the rest of the world we better do >> something about it! >> > I would suggest that if you really are this lit up about this issue > that you direct your customers to you OWN website which is quite > obviously superior to the FreeBSD one. As I said, Im not a consultant or anything, Im just an employee. I do not have a website of my own. >> Clearly, you have not tried to "sell" FreeBSD to a big >> corporation. >> > Roger you are just being impatient. You haven't defined 'big' here "Big" as in 6000 employees spread across a few european countries. > but if you mean 'big' in that the company has over 500 employees > in an office building, then even you must know that the check > signers in these companies are almost never under the age of 40. > Most of them are over 40 and most of them came up through the sales > ranks, and not through the technology ranks. These are people who > 25 years ago were partying their way through a business degree in > some university and the only thing that they really know well is > how to sell their companies products. That's why they work at a > big company, didn't you know? Deep down they know they are > incompetents and they are too scared to go out on their own even > when they could make triple the money if they really knew what they > were doing. > > They don't really understand anything about technology > infrastructure and they certainly didn't go to grade school or high > school with a personal computer in the house, like kids today. > And the worst part is that they matriculated during the time that > in business education in this country that the 'cog in the machine' > aspect of workers was totally emphasized. Their professors drilled > into their heads the idea that every worker in the company must be > interchangable and they deep down detest and hate the idea of there > being any such thing as 'key employees' > > Why do you think that the current federal government administration > just takes the position that workers need to retrain to the new > economy, as if just retraining 100 million people every 5 years to > new jobs is a good way to run the economy? This is a message that > comes straight out of that generation and resonates with todays big > business movers and shakers. That is why these people are doing > such a terrible job mucking up American big business today, the > current debacle with the airline industry is proof of that, and the > amount of bankruptcies over the last 6 years has been breathtaking. > Very few of these idiots are anything more than closet control > freaks. > > To be successful in todays market you have to be able to > individualize your products to what the customers in the market > want, and there is no way for a big business to do that without > really drastically increasing the complexity of it's business > workflow. Customers today want you to stock 100 variations of your > product and build all of them to order, and they want it for the > same price that 20 years ago they would buy the cookie-cutter > version you could sell them for. The only way to do that is to > integrate technology completely in every last speck of business > process that a big company does, and it takes a crew of key > technicians to do that. The few big companies that have learned > this aren't asking consultants what the damn operating system is > going to be on the computer systems they are asking the consultants > to build for them. They are telling the consultants 'this is what > the end result needs to be, you either figure out how to get it > for us using whatever things you want to use to get there, or get > the hell out' > > Roger, you really need to be dumbing down your presentations, these > CEO's your presenting to really don't understand all those big > words. Instead of using "FreeBSD" use "UNIX" It's shorter and > even the most sheltered of them understand that yooouu-nikx is > something that runs computers like winders is. And rather than > telling them how many mega-bytes and giga-bits the nice new server > is going to run at, just tell them it's going to be big, and fast > and powerful like Arnold Schwartznegger. Get them sold on the idea > that your providing a -solution to their problems- not that your > providing them some freebsd system that is real cool and does > something they are pretty fuzzy about exactly what. If they start > asking you exactly how your going to do this don't get sidetracked > into a technologists conversation. I advocate a more proffesional looking image, and you shoot me down and then tells me I need more bells and whistles in my presentations? Im confused! My arguments to improve FreeBSD's image are almost identical to the ones you listed above. For all I care the firstpage of freebsd.org could be a big picture of Schwartznegger with a BSD tattoe on his biceps, but try to suggest even a change of font on the site and people freak out. > > In fact you might just consider hiring a professional salesperson > that doesen't really know too much about what your selling. These > CEO's really are more interested in things like when your going to > be finished building the new system, who is going to train the end > users, how is it going to help them make money, how much money are > they going to have to pay for it upfront, and how much money they > are going to have to pay for it ongoing. The salesperson should be > figuring all that out with them first. You shouldn't even be > talking about operating systems until you have sold them on > yourself and your company, and if FreeBSD really is an objection to > them, then they should like you enough so that they want you to > build a Linux solution for them. Once you get them hooked and > after a year or so you can switch them over to FreeBSD. > I could be wrong, but I think we are suggesting basically the same thing, just on different places. You seem to think that I should cover up FreeBSD's amateurish look by creating a protective shell of fancy words and presentations. I suggest that we put the energy on actually fixing the image, and thereby eliminating the need of a shell. Unfortunally, I have seen this discussion go down so many times by now that I already knows how it ends. The people that tries to make a difference is scared away by the "dont touch my website" crowd. I will continue to advocate the use of FreeBSD, with or without help from the official website, but Im still hoping that someday maybe people will realize that not all decisions are made based upon the quality of the source, but on general appearance as well. -- R _______________________________________________ freebsd-arch@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-arch To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-arch-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jul 3 00:11:54 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3B39316A433; Sun, 3 Jul 2005 00:11:54 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ps@mu.org) Received: from elvis.mu.org (elvis.mu.org [192.203.228.196]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CFC0D43E85; Sun, 3 Jul 2005 00:09:07 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ps@mu.org) Received: by elvis.mu.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id BB5C55DD09; Sat, 2 Jul 2005 17:08:00 -0700 (PDT) X-Original-To: ps@mu.org Delivered-To: ps@mu.org Received: from mx2.freebsd.org (mx2.freebsd.org [216.136.204.119]) by elvis.mu.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4F62A5C9A7 for ; Wed, 29 Dec 2004 00:23:14 -0800 (PST) Received: from hub.freebsd.org (hub.freebsd.org [216.136.204.18]) by mx2.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4377055ABB; Wed, 29 Dec 2004 08:22:55 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-arch@freebsd.org) Received: from hub.freebsd.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DFCF716A4CE; Wed, 29 Dec 2004 08:22:54 +0000 (GMT) Delivered-To: freebsd-arch@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1E1AA16A4CE; Wed, 29 Dec 2004 08:22:48 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com (mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [65.75.192.90]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3B20343D1D; Wed, 29 Dec 2004 08:22:47 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) Received: from tedwin2k (nat-rtr.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [65.75.197.130]) iBT8Mfv87971; Wed, 29 Dec 2004 00:22:41 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) From: "Ted Mittelstaedt" To: "Nikolas Britton" Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.6604 (9.0.2911.0) In-Reply-To: <41D1567F.9000901@nbritton.org> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1441 Importance: Normal X-BeenThere: freebsd-arch@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Sender: owner-freebsd-arch@freebsd.org Errors-To: owner-freebsd-arch@freebsd.org X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.0.1 (2004-10-22) on elvis.mu.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.6 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_00, SUSPICIOUS_RECIPS autolearn=no version=3.0.1 X-Spam-Level: Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org, freebsd-www@freebsd.org, Simon Burke , freebsd-arch@freebsd.org Subject: RE: FreeBSD's Visual Identity: Outdated? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Date: Sun, 03 Jul 2005 00:11:54 -0000 X-Original-Date: Wed, 29 Dec 2004 00:22:41 -0800 X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 03 Jul 2005 00:11:54 -0000 > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > [mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]On Behalf Of Nikolas Britton > Sent: Tuesday, December 28, 2004 4:50 AM > To: Ted Mittelstaedt > Cc: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org; freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; > freebsd-www@freebsd.org; freebsd-arch@freebsd.org; Simon Burke > Subject: Re: FreeBSD's Visual Identity: Outdated? > > > Ted Mittelstaedt wrote: > > >What they care about is: 'can what I need done > >be done in a way that is a) cheap and b) works and c) won't lock me > >in to you' > > > > > d) support. e) what everyone else uses. Most companys only care about d > and e as windows is nether a, b, or c... umm how'd it go... "No one ever > got fired for buying IBM" > If you think about it, d and e are the same thing as a and c. What does support constitute to the average CEO? If you asked them they would say that it's the ability to pick up the phone and get the problem fixed, right? Well guess what - you can do that with FreeBSD, there's paid incident support here: http://www.bsdmall.com/fbsdpay4tech.html about the same cost as the Microsoft offering, as a matter of fact. If you tell them that, they will sit back, scratch their head, and eventually say something along the lines of 'well I can just call any joe blow in the yellow pages for windows questions' And they are right. Because there's lots of so-called 'windows consultants' out there who are to put it bluntly, so piss-poor that they will give you gobs of free-but-worthless support over the phone in an attempt to get an appointment with you for some billable time. And if that doesen't work well, my kid brother has a computer that he plays Doom on all the time so he must be a computer sexpert, right? The people selling commercial FreeBSD support want a lot of money - but in exchange you get support that is actually worth what you pay for. The people selling commercial Windows support are all over the map - some do want a lot of money for good support, others will take a little bit of money for crap support. The CEOs that don't know any better figure that the cheap support is as good as the expensive support - so they then classify the expensive support (both windows and freebsd) in the 'nonexistent' category and then tell you with a straight face that freebsd is not supported. Now, if your talking hardware support - then please, yes there's lots of cheapskates running offices who are buying winprinters so they can save $50, we know that. And paying double for the ink cartridges, yes I know that one too. And as for the every one else uses it - where do you see this most? It's in the companies that don't want to spend a cent on training people. They want to hire their secretaries out of the local 1 year business prep school and put them to work writing letters with Microsoft Word, because that is all the business prep school trains them to do. What is missed of course is that since those sorts of people are only good for plunking down in front of a Windows XP system with Microsoft Word on it, after those people get finished writing your Microsoft Word document, they spend the last 6 hours of the day downloading new screensavers, changing the fonts on their computers, instant messaging their friends, etc. If instead you plunked them down in front of a FreeBSD system running XFree, after they got done with writing the memo you wanted them to write, they would be unable to idle away time on the computer, and you might actually get some useful work out of them. If you don't believe this take a look at the Microsoft desktop offerings. Microsoft is belatedly waking up to this and ever since NT, a skilled Windows admin can go in and lock down every scrap of anything on all his Windows NT, 2K, or XP desktops so that the secretaries can't do anything other than what their job is. And more and more companies are starting to do this, or at least try doing it. > Know your market, we are not trying to get them to switch to FreeBSD > from Windows, we are the alternative to the alternative for a company > that has already decide to go with the alternative instead of windows. > you might be. But your fighting the hardest battle. Unlike you I'm out there showing them how many tens of thousands of dollars they are going to save by not buying a new server that is running XP Pro Server, and Microsoft Exchange, and all the other nasty proprietary business software that Microsoft has designed to leech onto your company. > > VERY few customers are willing to deviate > >from Microsoft, at least not in the Western states. > > > On the desktop yes, but where not talking about desktops here, where > talking about servers and Linux has its claws all over the server market. > The Linux people are also talking about desktops. In fact, they are concentrating more on the desktops now than on the servers, that is why the Linux distros all have GUI installers and the like. When was the last time you installed Linux? Today's Linux is designed to be installed by a non-technical user, same as Windows. > > > >I would suggest that if you really are this lit up about this issue > >that you direct your customers to you OWN website which is quite > obviously > >superior to the FreeBSD one. > > > > > Now thats just asinine. > Not it is not. He is trying to sell himself and his company. Why in the heck shouldn't he be directing his customers to himself and his companies website? Geeze - the FreeBSD website not only has FreeBSD info it has lists of OTHER consultants. Why on earth would a consultant making a presentation want to direct the customer to a site that would give the customer a list of competitors? > > > I'm sorry to say but anyone outside of IT/IS/MIS has no clue what UNIX > is. at best they mistake it for Linux. > Then don't even mention UNIX or Windows at all. > >And rather > >than telling them how many mega-bytes and giga-bits the nice > >new server is going to run at, just tell them it's going to be > >big, and fast and powerful like Arnold Schwartznegger. > > > I agree with you about the megabit and bytes but you have gone to far to > the other extreme, they are not stupid, the CEO's job is to keep the > company afloat not know what a megabyte is, this is why we have CTOs and > CIOs. > Exactly - which is why as I said before (and you cut) the sales presentation is going to be a dud if all you do is sit there talking about how great this FreeBSD product is. When you go into one of these sales deals the CEO should be told exactly TWO things: that you can solve his problem, and how much it's going to cost. Everything else in the presentation is simply a lead in for these two things. The problem is that too many people that do these kinds of presentations don't understand that what they are selling is themselves. They think that "I'm going to try to go into that there customer and sell them a new server" Nowhere in their thought processes is the idea that they are there to find out what the customers problem is exactly, and sell THEMSELVES as the solution to it. I've seen a lot of these presentations and been in a lot where the customer tells the presenter what his problem is and the first words out of the presenters mouth is 'well you need a new server' It's like you might as well leave then. The presenter should be saying 'well you don't have enough space/you don't have enough speed/ your network has no virus protection/you don't have a database/etc/etc/etc and WE CAN FIX that. In short, the presenter needs to regurgitate the customers problem, and tell the customer they can fix it, and how much it is gonna cost. Period. It's not the presenters job to tell the customer how they are going to fix it - if the customer knew that, the presenter wouldn't even be there. > Again this is are target market; consultants, integrators, vars, etc. I > bet 80% of them don't even know FreeBSD exists and of the 20% that do > only 20% would consider using and recommending it based on technical > merit alone. > A var that has a thriving Linux consultancy and no FreeBSD experience isn't going to buy into FreeBSD. The only time your going to get a consultant with no FreeBSD experience into looking at FreeBSD is if they can't make a go of it with their existing product line, or if they have never done consulting before and are just starting out. The var/integrator/consultancy market has a certain amount of attrition every year, companies form and break up every year. There's always new people coming into the market and old people leaving it. Some of those new consultants are going to have prior FreeBSD experience and will want to leverage that. The support they need from the FreeBSD Project is stuff like my book, good tech support assistance, and overall a strong stable OS. Ted _______________________________________________ freebsd-arch@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-arch To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-arch-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jul 3 00:11:58 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B521D16A421; Sun, 3 Jul 2005 00:11:58 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ps@mu.org) Received: from elvis.mu.org (elvis.mu.org [192.203.228.196]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0A42243E78; Sun, 3 Jul 2005 00:09:02 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ps@mu.org) Received: by elvis.mu.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id CB6DE5DD00; Sat, 2 Jul 2005 17:07:59 -0700 (PDT) X-Original-To: ps@mu.org Delivered-To: ps@mu.org Received: from mx2.freebsd.org (mx2.freebsd.org [216.136.204.119]) by elvis.mu.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BC8535C900 for ; Fri, 24 Dec 2004 17:44:28 -0800 (PST) Received: from hub.freebsd.org (hub.freebsd.org [216.136.204.18]) by mx2.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 78869558B7; Sat, 25 Dec 2004 01:44:28 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-arch@freebsd.org) Received: from hub.freebsd.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9008F16A4D6; Sat, 25 Dec 2004 01:44:27 +0000 (GMT) Delivered-To: freebsd-arch@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DE08A16A4CE; Sat, 25 Dec 2004 01:44:22 +0000 (GMT) Received: from makeworld.com (makeworld.com [198.92.228.38]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6B7F843D49; Sat, 25 Dec 2004 01:44:22 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from racerx@makeworld.com) Received: from localhost (localhost.com [127.0.0.1]) by makeworld.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9C0C960ED; Fri, 24 Dec 2004 19:44:21 -0600 (CST) Received: from makeworld.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (makeworld.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 54464-06; Fri, 24 Dec 2004 19:44:17 -0600 (CST) Received: from [198.92.228.34] (racerx.makeworld.com [198.92.228.34]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by makeworld.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id EF19860E4; Fri, 24 Dec 2004 19:44:16 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <41CCC618.9050002@makeworld.com> From: Chris User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (X11/20041218) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: FreeBSD - Questions References: <20041223112731.GA32750@ninja.terrabionic.com> <89b41e4704122303546aaa8d83@mail.gmail.com> <20041223133440.GC786@myrddin.originative.co.uk> <41CB9F16.1010405@nbritton.org> <41CBA2D5.4070700@makeworld.com> <20041224142246.GB779@gothmog.gr> <41CC9DE0.6010500@makeworld.com> <41CCC1B7.4090008@makeworld.com> In-Reply-To: <41CCC1B7.4090008@makeworld.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Virus-Scanned: by ClamAV 0.75.1/amavisd-new-2.2.0 (20041102) at makeworld.com - Isn't it ironic X-BeenThere: freebsd-arch@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Sender: owner-freebsd-arch@freebsd.org Errors-To: owner-freebsd-arch@freebsd.org X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.0.1 (2004-10-22) on elvis.mu.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.6 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=3.0.1 X-Spam-Level: Cc: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Dag-Erling_Sm=F8rgrav?= , freebsd-arch@freebsd.org, Nikolas Britton , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, Giorgos Keramidas Subject: Re: FreeBSD's Visual Identity: Outdated? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Date: Sun, 03 Jul 2005 00:11:58 -0000 X-Original-Date: Fri, 24 Dec 2004 19:44:56 -0600 X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 03 Jul 2005 00:11:58 -0000 Chris wrote: > Dag-Erling Smørgrav wrote: > >> Chris writes: >> >>> Dag-Erling Smørgrav wrote: >>> >>>> Responding to Chris: CSS is neither outdated nor a Windows thing. You >>>> apparently need to get an extra clue or two before you rejoin this >>>> discussion. >>> >>> >>> Not really - Some years back MS made a big issue about CSS. It was >>> then that I lost interest in web devel. Besides - web devel isn't my >>> bag, so I really don't think that I need to have or get a clue. >> >> >> >> CSS is a W3 standard, but was originally designed by the CTO of Opera >> Software, a company which is one of Microsoft's more vocal detractors >> and which recently received a large settlement in a lawsuit regarding >> Microsoft's (alleged) intentional efforts to make their website render >> poorly in Opera's browser. IE handles CSS1 badly, and CSS2 almost not >> at all. Calling it a Windows thing severely misrepresents the facts. >> >> >>> One does not need to know how to rebuild an engine to know how to >>> drive the car. >> >> >> >> One should not criticize the design of an engine while vehemently >> claiming to have no interest in how enginges are built. >> >> DES > > > Technically - I didn't criticize. Allow me to post verbatim; > > "CSS? Isnt that a bit outdated? Isnt that more a Windows thing?" > > Doesn't look like it to me - looks more like a query or two. > But that's just me tho - perhaps you read something else? > > Perhaps too much eggnog? Perhaps not enough? > Allow me to end this with this thought, if there is any doubt that what I asked was indeed a question (opposed to a statement of fact as DES seems to say ("Calling it a Windows thing severely misrepresents the facts")) Here is a quote from Dictionary.com on Question - http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=question 1. An expression of inquiry that invites or calls for a reply. 2. An interrogative sentence, phrase, or gesture. In addition, that little thing at the then of the line (?) also defines it as the above mentioned. -- Best regards, Chris _______________________________________________ freebsd-arch@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-arch To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-arch-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jul 3 00:11:59 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D7B0316A420; Sun, 3 Jul 2005 00:11:59 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ps@mu.org) Received: from elvis.mu.org (elvis.mu.org [192.203.228.196]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0CC6243E79; Sun, 3 Jul 2005 00:09:02 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ps@mu.org) Received: by elvis.mu.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id B279C5DCFD; Sat, 2 Jul 2005 17:07:59 -0700 (PDT) X-Original-To: ps@mu.org Delivered-To: ps@mu.org Received: from mx2.freebsd.org (mx2.freebsd.org [216.136.204.119]) by elvis.mu.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 74AC15C981 for ; Sat, 25 Dec 2004 01:33:24 -0800 (PST) Received: from hub.freebsd.org (hub.freebsd.org [216.136.204.18]) by mx2.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 33AE0557B9; Sat, 25 Dec 2004 09:33:23 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-arch@freebsd.org) Received: from hub.freebsd.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8D16916A4D5; Sat, 25 Dec 2004 09:33:22 +0000 (GMT) Delivered-To: freebsd-arch@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6926C16A4CE; Sat, 25 Dec 2004 09:33:20 +0000 (GMT) Received: from kenmore.kozy-kabin.nl (fia148-72.dsl.hccnet.nl [62.251.72.148]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ACAA843D45; Sat, 25 Dec 2004 09:33:18 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from colin@kenmore.kozy-kabin.nl) Received: from localhost (colin@localhost) by kenmore.kozy-kabin.nl (8.11.6p2/8.11.6) with ESMTP id iBP77M600426; Sat, 25 Dec 2004 08:07:22 +0100 (CET) From: "Colin J. Raven" To: =?iso-8859-1?q?Dag-Erling_Sm=F8rgrav?= In-Reply-To: Message-ID: References: <20041223112731.GA32750@ninja.terrabionic.com> <20041223133440.GC786@myrddin.originative.co.uk> <41CB9F16.1010405@nbritton.org> <41CBA2D5.4070700@makeworld.com> <20041224142246.GB779@gothmog.gr> <41CC9DE0.6010500@makeworld.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: QUOTED-PRINTABLE X-BeenThere: freebsd-arch@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Sender: owner-freebsd-arch@freebsd.org Errors-To: owner-freebsd-arch@freebsd.org X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.0.1 (2004-10-22) on elvis.mu.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.6 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=3.0.1 X-Spam-Level: Cc: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org, freebsd-www@freebsd.org, Giorgos Keramidas , freebsd-arch@freebsd.org, Nikolas Britton , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD's Visual Identity: Outdated? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Date: Sun, 03 Jul 2005 00:12:00 -0000 X-Original-Date: Sat, 25 Dec 2004 08:07:21 +0100 X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 03 Jul 2005 00:12:00 -0000 On Dec 25, Dag-Erling Sm=F8rgrav launched this into the bitstream: > Chris writes: > >> One does not need to know how to rebuild an engine to know how to >> drive the car. > > One should not criticize the design of an engine while vehemently > claiming to have no interest in how enginges are built. One should not buy a car without at least knowing the general specs of=20 the engine. _______________________________________________ freebsd-arch@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-arch To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-arch-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jul 3 00:12:00 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D85CF16A422; Sun, 3 Jul 2005 00:12:00 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ps@mu.org) Received: from elvis.mu.org (elvis.mu.org [192.203.228.196]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0694543E3D; Sun, 3 Jul 2005 00:08:51 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ps@mu.org) Received: by elvis.mu.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 01B105DCC1; Sat, 2 Jul 2005 17:07:57 -0700 (PDT) X-Original-To: ps@mu.org Delivered-To: ps@mu.org Received: from mx2.freebsd.org (mx2.freebsd.org [216.136.204.119]) by elvis.mu.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D797A5C900 for ; Thu, 23 Dec 2004 03:54:37 -0800 (PST) Received: from hub.freebsd.org (hub.freebsd.org [216.136.204.18]) by mx2.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 30ECF56285; Thu, 23 Dec 2004 11:54:37 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-arch@freebsd.org) Received: from hub.freebsd.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 83B1B16A4D7; Thu, 23 Dec 2004 11:54:36 +0000 (GMT) Delivered-To: freebsd-arch@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A74EF16A4CE for ; Thu, 23 Dec 2004 11:54:33 +0000 (GMT) Received: from rproxy.gmail.com (rproxy.gmail.com [64.233.170.205]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C360343D58 for ; Thu, 23 Dec 2004 11:54:32 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from bdaniel7@gmail.com) Received: by rproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id z35so116513rne for ; Thu, 23 Dec 2004 03:54:31 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:references; b=MvORpV7z2gniQZSx2P/HR7rVn2vOxqzlh6fiuDbpk/6hF1ovLVKoEyyDub83qcyWSlMPW8YgTWJkvOdiQAXz9mou6WRFG/eeSCpxcxbCiHfAuktHtMlwUrrHVZya8OScqLH3iPUEZRZIXwhmCQgn4IrLcgVmLChjcaplESkaPfs= Received: by 10.39.3.42 with SMTP id f42mr476819rni; Thu, 23 Dec 2004 03:54:31 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.38.104.1 with HTTP; Thu, 23 Dec 2004 03:54:31 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <89b41e4704122303546aaa8d83@mail.gmail.com> From: Daniel Blendea To: jsha In-Reply-To: <20041223112731.GA32750@ninja.terrabionic.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit References: <20041223112731.GA32750@ninja.terrabionic.com> X-BeenThere: freebsd-arch@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Sender: owner-freebsd-arch@freebsd.org Errors-To: owner-freebsd-arch@freebsd.org X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.0.1 (2004-10-22) on elvis.mu.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.0 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,DEAR_SOMETHING, RCVD_BY_IP autolearn=no version=3.0.1 X-Spam-Level: Cc: freebsd-www@freebsd.org, freebsd-arch@freebsd.org, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD's Visual Identity: Outdated? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Reply-To: Daniel Blendea List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Date: Sun, 03 Jul 2005 00:12:01 -0000 X-Original-Date: Thu, 23 Dec 2004 13:54:31 +0200 X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 03 Jul 2005 00:12:01 -0000 1. bu**s**it, Beastie is **COOL** and would be a loss of identity if the logo would change; Dear Sir, please read the page where what greek daemons are explained.. 2. again, bu**s**it, the colors are not ugly at ALL, - and i'm not a fan of site's color theme coz i prefer blue-ish colors - again, think about identity...whenever one FreeBSD'er sees the logo/colors - on software packages, media and the like - he will know that product is related to FreeBSD 3. please install FreeBSD couple of times, and afterwards you'll get to install it eyes- closed.. thank you for reading and please excuse my excited tone, Daniel On Thu, 23 Dec 2004 12:27:31 +0100, jsha wrote: > > Hello. > > I am writing this e-mail hoping that someone will share my thoughts > on how the world's best operating system should represent its attributes > and users to the rest of the world. > > Being an architect as well as graphic designer, I feel it is about time > for a complete revamp of the visual aesthetics of the FreeBSD project. > The current logo and everything pertaining to it has long since lost its > modern touch. I believe that if this image is strenghtened, so is the > way outsiders view the FreeBSD project and the way they would judge it > compared to other open source operating systems. > > 1. Not only is the logo misleading (associating evil) but it also looks > like something 10-year-olds could produce in Paint Shop Pro ten years > ago. OpenBSD has an artistic touch to theirs, however I was very > disappointed when I heard that the new NetBSD logo was in effect. > > 2. If it wasn't for the interesting content and structure of the FreeBSD > website, it would be among the less beautiful. Yes, it serves its > purpose well by being simple and straight to the point. But a redesign > could offer just the same -- simplicity and accuracy -- without being > ugly. > > 3. The installation, even though it's text-only, could also be improved > by simple restructuring to act more cognitive and human-centered than > previously. Everything pertaining to the eye is important to improve. > > 4. There should be some kind of FreeBSD business card and letterhead > available to all that support this project. > > How do I know though, that if I manage to pull together a team to work > on this refined vision, that we won't be totally ignored even though we > produce the most magnificent result? > > Anyone that are interested, please reply ;-) > > Sincerely, > Johann Manaf Tepstad > -- > j. > > > _______________________________________________ freebsd-arch@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-arch To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-arch-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jul 3 00:39:41 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@www.freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@www.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 18CB816A422; Sun, 3 Jul 2005 00:39:41 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ps@mu.org) Received: from elvis.mu.org (elvis.mu.org [192.203.228.196]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 136FD441B2; Sun, 3 Jul 2005 00:24:12 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ps@mu.org) Received: by elvis.mu.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 0068E63BF9; Sat, 2 Jul 2005 17:24:08 -0700 (PDT) X-Original-To: ps@mu.org Delivered-To: ps@mu.org Received: from mx2.freebsd.org (mx2.freebsd.org [216.136.204.119]) by elvis.mu.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6706D5CA5B for ; Sat, 14 May 2005 03:53:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: from hub.freebsd.org (hub.freebsd.org [216.136.204.18]) by mx2.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A5C9556A67; Sat, 14 May 2005 10:53:16 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@freebsd.org) Received: from hub.freebsd.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0F22E16A4FD; Sat, 14 May 2005 10:53:11 +0000 (GMT) Delivered-To: freebsd-current@www.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D7A8616A4CE; Sat, 14 May 2005 10:48:05 +0000 (GMT) Received: from monroe.tera-byte.com (monroe.tera-byte.com [216.194.64.209]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5F21A43D5D; Sat, 14 May 2005 10:48:03 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from matt@mattford.net) Received: from [192.168.7.9] (limend.plus.com [80.229.15.68]) (authenticated (0 bits)) by monroe.tera-byte.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id j4EAm2406383; Sat, 14 May 2005 04:48:02 -0600 Message-ID: <4285D734.90400@mattford.net> From: Matt User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.2 (X11/20050403) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-current@www.freebsd.org, freebsd-questions@www.freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Sender: owner-freebsd-current@freebsd.org Errors-To: owner-freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.0.2 (2004-11-16) on elvis.mu.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.6 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=3.0.2 X-Spam-Level: Cc: Subject: System Crash when kldload if_ndis X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Date: Sun, 03 Jul 2005 00:39:41 -0000 X-Original-Date: Sat, 14 May 2005 11:47:16 +0100 X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 03 Jul 2005 00:39:41 -0000 I'm not sure if the problem I am having is with the kernel modules I am using (I've tried with two different ones) or with the ndis module itself or what. I am running FreeBSD 5.4 amd64 on an Asus A8V-E Deluxe motherboard, AMD 64 3000+, 512MB RAM. The ndis drivers I am using are for a Marvell 88E8053 gigabit ehternet controller and the onBoard wifi controller of the Asus A8V-E Deluxe (i'm not sure what the chipset is). When using ndiscvt I get the error "section relocation failed". Other errors is when I am trying to ndiscvt the marvell driver I get the error: ndiscvt: line 238: Controlled%: syntax error. Here are the lines in the inf file: 237: HKR, Ndi\Params\WakeUpModeCap_A\enum, 0,, %Non% 238: HKR, Ndi\Params\WakeUpModeCap_A\enum, 15,, %OS Controlled% 239: HKR, Ndi\Params\WakeUpModeCap_A\enum, 25,, %Magic Packet% Basically I don't think it likes the spaces, so I went through the whole .inf deleting the spaces wherever it threw up a syntax error and in the end it compiled a kernel module that then crashed the system. I didn't get a chance to get the error when it crashed the system. The wifi driver went through ndiscvt without any problems but when I try and kldload the wifi driver I get this error: Fatal trap 12: page fault while in kernel mode fault virtual address = 0x96222d5b fault code = supervisor read, page not present instruction pointer = 0x8:0xffffffff961e2466 stack pointer = 0x10:0xffffffff961d75d0 frame pointer = 0x10:096222d57 code segment = base 0x0, limit 0xfffff, type 0x1b = DPL 0, pres 1, long 1, def32 0, gran 1 processor eflags = Interrupt enabled, resume, IOPL = 0 current process = 472 (kldload) trap number = 12 panic: page fault Other points to note is that I had to run the marvell .inf file through iconv with the -c flag to ignore characters it couldn't convert, this could possibly have left out some important data from the inf maybe? I'll be gratefull for any suggestions _______________________________________________ freebsd-current@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-current To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-current-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jul 3 00:52:56 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3363F16A44C; Sun, 3 Jul 2005 00:52:48 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ps@mu.org) Received: from elvis.mu.org (elvis.mu.org [192.203.228.196]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8AF3744BFB; Sun, 3 Jul 2005 00:32:47 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ps@mu.org) Received: by elvis.mu.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 2EBC7653C4; Sat, 2 Jul 2005 17:29:29 -0700 (PDT) X-Original-To: ps@mu.org Delivered-To: ps@mu.org Received: from mx2.freebsd.org (mx2.freebsd.org [216.136.204.119]) by elvis.mu.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DAC305C9F7 for ; Fri, 5 Nov 2004 05:11:31 -0800 (PST) Received: from hub.freebsd.org (hub.freebsd.org [216.136.204.18]) by mx2.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B7EF656639; Fri, 5 Nov 2004 13:10:57 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@freebsd.org) Received: from hub.freebsd.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6950C16A4E0; Fri, 5 Nov 2004 13:10:54 +0000 (GMT) Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 139DE16A4CE; Fri, 5 Nov 2004 13:10:46 +0000 (GMT) Received: from postino-2.etat.lu (postino-2.etat.lu [194.154.205.21]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6D8FC43D39; Fri, 5 Nov 2004 13:10:45 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from didier.wiroth@mcesr.etat.lu) Received: from avirus-2.cie.etat.lu (dispatch-2.cie.etat.lu [148.110.137.7]) by postino-2.etat.lu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6124EAF2A95; Fri, 5 Nov 2004 14:08:34 +0100 (CET) Received: from avirus-2.cie.etat.lu (dispatch-2.cie.etat.lu [148.110.137.7]) by localhost (CIE ESMTP Dispatch 2) with ESMTP id 5AB352940C; Fri, 5 Nov 2004 14:08:34 +0100 (CET) Received: from hermes-1 (hermes-1.cie.etat.lu [148.110.136.56]) by dispatch-2.cie.etat.lu (CIE ESMTP Dispatch 2) with ESMTP id 4A04229274; Fri, 5 Nov 2004 14:08:34 +0100 (CET) Received: from conversion-daemon.mail.etat.lu by mail.etat.lu (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.14 (built Mar 18 2003)) id <0I6P00401HPTMP@mail.etat.lu>; Fri, 05 Nov 2004 14:08:34 +0100 (MET) Received: from etat.lu (hermes-1 [148.110.136.56])18 2003)) with ESMTP id <0I6P00E2YJ5ZZ7@mail.etat.lu>; Fri, 05 Nov 2004 14:08:23 +0100 (MET) Received: from [192.168.1.17] by mail.etat.lu (mshttpd); Fri, 05 Nov 2004 14:08:23 +0100 From: Didier Wiroth To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Message-id: <1df0418480.184801df04@etat.lu> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: iPlanet Messenger Express 5.2 HotFix 1.14 (built Mar 18 2003) Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-language: fr Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-disposition: inline X-Accept-Language: fr Priority: normal X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Sender: owner-freebsd-current@freebsd.org Errors-To: owner-freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.0.0 (2004-09-13) on elvis.mu.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.6 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=3.0.0 X-Spam-Level: Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: appendum post: rc2, xorg, and matrox g550 troubles X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Date: Sun, 03 Jul 2005 00:52:58 -0000 X-Original-Date: Fri, 05 Nov 2004 14:08:23 +0100 X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 03 Jul 2005 00:52:58 -0000 Hi, I've downloaded the matrox linux drivers for the g550. Istalling the mga_hal.o in the driver directoy wasn't enough, so I overwrited the mga_drv.o file with the linux one. Starting X worked, BUT, it was not possible to get a console back. When quitting X I get a blank and black screen. I need to ssh from another workstation to make a proper shutdown. When I disable acpi at boot time, start X (with linux drivers) and quit X I'm able to get back a console. Unfortunately dual screen does not work. What I didn't mention is that I'm using the dvi connectors of my lcds screen, perpaps this is also source of the problem?! thanks for feedback, comments, tips or any help. _______________________________________________ freebsd-current@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-current To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-current-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jul 3 01:24:34 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2CB3F16A41C for ; Sun, 3 Jul 2005 01:24:34 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from eric@unixtechs.org) Received: from sccrmhc13.comcast.net (sccrmhc13.comcast.net [204.127.202.64]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A450F43D4C for ; Sun, 3 Jul 2005 01:24:32 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from eric@unixtechs.org) Received: from blackguy.unixtechs.org (bgp946610bgs.canton01.mi.comcast.net[68.41.51.164]) by comcast.net (sccrmhc13) with ESMTP id <20050703012421016000h89ce>; Sun, 3 Jul 2005 01:24:25 +0000 Received: from eric by blackguy.unixtechs.org with local (Exim 4.51 (FreeBSD)) id 1DotD2-00022I-RL; Sat, 02 Jul 2005 21:23:48 -0400 Date: Sat, 2 Jul 2005 21:23:48 -0400 From: Eric Ekong To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20050703012348.GA6208@blackguy> References: <20050630031849.GA94889@blackguy> <20050630181055.GA35989@blackguy> <41FD3108251376A060401577@utd59514.utdallas.edu> <20050701175600.GD1184@blackguy> <20050701213453.GG1192@blackguy> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="45Z9DzgjV8m4Oswq" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20050701213453.GG1192@blackguy> Organization: UNIXTECHS X-Mailer: Mutt http://www.mutt.org/ X-Editor: Vim http://www.vim.org/ X-Info: http://www.unixtechs.org/ X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 5.4-STABLE i386 9:05PM up 1:05, 2 users, load averages: 0.53, 0.44, 0.36 User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.9i Subject: Re: help with matrox parhelia 256Mb with dual head = Success X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Eric Ekong List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 03 Jul 2005 01:24:34 -0000 --45Z9DzgjV8m4Oswq Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Looks like I have figured it out and things are working in DVI mode with dual head desktop. It took a couple of friends over my shoulder to figure this out, but once I did what a wonderful thing. Attaching my xorg.conf and X.0.log for viewing and I hope this helps other people out as every other thread I have seen about this card has either gone un answered or the person has just given up and gone with a ati card (which I was about an hour from going to do). Eric * Eric Ekong [050701 17:34]: > As far as I know there is no freebsd driver for the P-Series > of the Matrox card P650, P750, and Parhelia. Everything I could > find points to using the downloadable driver. The matrox driver for > these cards is mtx as opposed tot he mga/mga_hal/mgadrm. > > Mind sharing your xorg.conf just so I can compare. I had Xinerama in > and with it in, my desktops just showed duplicates. > > Eric > * Paul Schmehl [050701 17:12]: > > --On Friday, July 01, 2005 13:56:00 -0400 Eric Ekong > > wrote: > > > > >Initially the second monitor wasn't coming up at all. Now, with a > > >minor change or two, I have the second monitor coming up, but it seems > > >to bring up a second window manager that I have no access to..., the > > >second monitor just kinda sits there in the default kde start screen. > > > > > >That along with the fact that if I enable Xinerama, I lock up X to the > > >point where I can't drop to a virtual screen because the keyboard and > > >mouse lock up as well. If I've gotten this far I must be only a step > > >or two away from getting this to work fully. > > > > > >Need is to have one desktop stretched across 2 monitors. Roughly > > >3200x1600 desktop. > > > > > >Do you have this working with the parhelia? > > > > No, I have a Radeon X300 card. > > > > > If so are you using Xorg > > >or XFree86 in ports. I'm guess XFree86 would work in this setup > > >better, but it is just a hunch. > > > > > I'm using Xorg and Xinerama - two 19 inch monitors - one desktop. The > > problem that I have is that the right screen won't display until the system > > goes to sleep. So, when I first login, I change the setttings to get the > > system to go to sleep in one minute, wait one minute, then move the mouse. > > The right screen then works as long as I don't log out. (Locking and > > unlocking the screen works just fine.) > > > > But the problems you're having sound more driver related. Was there a > > reason you chose the Linux driver instead of the native FBSD one? > > > > Paul Schmehl (pauls@utdallas.edu) > > Adjunct Information Security Officer > > University of Texas at Dallas > > AVIEN Founding Member > > http://www.utdallas.edu/ir/security/ > > _______________________________________________ > > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > -- > ======================================================= > Eric I. Ekong eric@unixtechs.org > FreeBSD - The Power to Serve http://www.freebsd.org > K Desktop Environment on FreeBSD http://freebsd.kde.org > ======================================================= > > Laws of Serendipity: > > (1) In order to discover anything, you must be looking for > something. > (2) If you wish to make an improved product, you must already > be engaged in making an inferior one. > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" -- ======================================================= Eric I. Ekong eric@unixtechs.org FreeBSD - The Power to Serve http://www.freebsd.org K Desktop Environment on FreeBSD http://freebsd.kde.org ======================================================= Laws of Serendipity: (1) In order to discover anything, you must be looking for something. (2) If you wish to make an improved product, you must already be engaged in making an inferior one. --45Z9DzgjV8m4Oswq Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="Xorg.0.log" X Window System Version 6.8.2 Release Date: 9 February 2005 X Protocol Version 11, Revision 0, Release 6.8.2 Build Operating System: FreeBSD 5.4 i386 [ELF] Current Operating System: FreeBSD blackguy.unixtechs.org 5.4-STABLE FreeBSD 5.4-STABLE #26: Sat Jul 2 09:18:25 EDT 2005 root@:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/BLACKGUY i386 Build Date: 27 June 2005 Before reporting problems, check http://wiki.X.Org to make sure that you have the latest version. Module Loader present Markers: (--) probed, (**) from config file, (==) default setting, (++) from command line, (!!) notice, (II) informational, (WW) warning, (EE) error, (NI) not implemented, (??) unknown. (==) Log file: "/var/log/Xorg.0.log", Time: Sat Jul 2 21:04:04 2005 (==) Using config file: "/etc/X11/xorg.conf" (==) ServerLayout "Layout0" (**) |-->Screen "Screen 0" (0) (**) | |-->Monitor "Monitor0" (**) | |-->Device "Parhelia_256_0" (**) |-->Screen "Screen 1" (1) (**) | |-->Monitor "Monitor1" (**) | |-->Device "Parhelia_256_1" (**) |-->Input Device "Microsoft_Natural" (**) |-->Input Device "Microsoft Intellimouse Explorer" (**) FontPath set to "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/misc,/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/Type1,/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi,/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi,/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi/:unscaled,/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi/:unscaled,/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/cyrillic,/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/URW,/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/freefont,/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/misc" (**) RgbPath set to "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/rgb" (**) ModulePath set to "/usr/X11R6/lib/modules" (**) Option "AllowMouseOpenFail" (**) Option "NoPM" (**) Option "Xinerama" "true" (**) Xinerama: enabled (II) Module ABI versions: X.Org ANSI C Emulation: 0.2 X.Org Video Driver: 0.7 X.Org XInput driver : 0.4 X.Org Server Extension : 0.2 X.Org Font Renderer : 0.4 (II) Loader running on freebsd (II) LoadModule: "bitmap" (II) Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/fonts/libbitmap.a (II) Module bitmap: vendor="X.Org Foundation" compiled for 6.8.2, module version = 1.0.0 Module class: X.Org Font Renderer ABI class: X.Org Font Renderer, version 0.4 (II) Loading font Bitmap (II) LoadModule: "pcidata" (II) Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/libpcidata.a (II) Module pcidata: vendor="X.Org Foundation" compiled for 6.8.2, module version = 1.0.0 ABI class: X.Org Video Driver, version 0.7 (--) Using syscons driver with X support (version 2.0) (--) using VT number 9 (II) PCI: Probing config type using method 1 (II) PCI: Config type is 1 (II) PCI: stages = 0x03, oldVal1 = 0x00000000, mode1Res1 = 0x80000000 (II) PCI: PCI scan (all values are in hex) (II) PCI: 00:00:0: chip 10de,01e0 card 1043,80ac rev c1 class 06,00,00 hdr 80 (II) PCI: 00:00:1: chip 10de,01ea card 1043,80ac rev c1 class 05,00,00 hdr 80 (II) PCI: 00:00:2: chip 10de,01ee card 1043,80ac rev c1 class 05,00,00 hdr 80 (II) PCI: 00:00:3: chip 10de,01ed card 1043,80ac rev c1 class 05,00,00 hdr 80 (II) PCI: 00:00:4: chip 10de,01ec card 1043,80ac rev c1 class 05,00,00 hdr 80 (II) PCI: 00:00:5: chip 10de,01ef card 1043,80ac rev c1 class 05,00,00 hdr 80 (II) PCI: 00:01:0: chip 10de,0060 card 1043,80ad rev a4 class 06,01,00 hdr 80 (II) PCI: 00:01:1: chip 10de,0064 card 1043,0c11 rev a2 class 0c,05,00 hdr 80 (II) PCI: 00:02:0: chip 10de,0067 card 1043,0c11 rev a4 class 0c,03,10 hdr 80 (II) PCI: 00:02:1: chip 10de,0067 card 1043,0c11 rev a4 class 0c,03,10 hdr 80 (II) PCI: 00:02:2: chip 10de,0068 card 1043,0c11 rev a4 class 0c,03,20 hdr 80 (II) PCI: 00:08:0: chip 10de,006c card 0000,0000 rev a3 class 06,04,00 hdr 01 (II) PCI: 00:09:0: chip 10de,0065 card 1043,0c11 rev a2 class 01,01,8a hdr 00 (II) PCI: 00:1e:0: chip 10de,01e8 card 0000,0000 rev c1 class 06,04,00 hdr 01 (II) PCI: 01:07:0: chip 10b7,5950 card 0000,0000 rev 00 class 02,00,00 hdr 00 (II) PCI: 01:08:0: chip 109e,036e card 1002,0003 rev 02 class 04,00,00 hdr 80 (II) PCI: 01:08:1: chip 109e,0878 card 1002,0003 rev 02 class 04,80,00 hdr 80 (II) PCI: 01:09:0: chip 1274,5880 card 1274,2000 rev 02 class 04,01,00 hdr 00 (II) PCI: 02:00:0: chip 102b,0528 card 102b,1030 rev 06 class 03,00,00 hdr 00 (II) PCI: End of PCI scan (II) Host-to-PCI bridge: (II) Bus 0: bridge is at (0:0:0), (0,0,2), BCTRL: 0x0008 (VGA_EN is set) (II) Bus 0 I/O range: [0] -1 0 0x00000000 - 0x0000ffff (0x10000) IX[B] (II) Bus 0 non-prefetchable memory range: [0] -1 0 0x00000000 - 0xffffffff (0x0) MX[B] (II) Bus 0 prefetchable memory range: [0] -1 0 0x00000000 - 0xffffffff (0x0) MX[B] (II) PCI-to-ISA bridge: (II) Bus -1: bridge is at (0:1:0), (0,-1,-1), BCTRL: 0x0008 (VGA_EN is set) (II) PCI-to-PCI bridge: (II) Bus 1: bridge is at (0:8:0), (0,1,1), BCTRL: 0x0202 (VGA_EN is cleared) (II) Bus 1 I/O range: [0] -1 0 0x0000d000 - 0x0000dfff (0x1000) IX[B] (II) Bus 1 non-prefetchable memory range: [0] -1 0 0xd5000000 - 0xd5ffffff (0x1000000) MX[B] (II) Bus 1 prefetchable memory range: [0] -1 0 0xd2000000 - 0xd2ffffff (0x1000000) MX[B] (II) PCI-to-PCI bridge: (II) Bus 2: bridge is at (0:30:0), (0,2,2), BCTRL: 0x000a (VGA_EN is set) (II) Bus 2 non-prefetchable memory range: [0] -1 0 0xd3000000 - 0xd4ffffff (0x2000000) MX[B] (II) Bus 2 prefetchable memory range: [0] -1 0 0xc0000000 - 0xcfffffff (0x10000000) MX[B] (--) PCI: (1:8:0) Brooktree Corporation Bt878 Video Capture rev 2, Mem @ 0xd2000000/12 (--) PCI:*(2:0:0) Matrox Graphics, Inc. unknown chipset (0x0528) rev 6, Mem @ 0xc0000000/28, 0xd3000000/13 (II) Addressable bus resource ranges are [0] -1 0 0x00000000 - 0xffffffff (0x0) MX[B] [1] -1 0 0x00000000 - 0x0000ffff (0x10000) IX[B] (II) OS-reported resource ranges: [0] -1 0 0xffe00000 - 0xffffffff (0x200000) MX[B](B) [1] -1 0 0x00100000 - 0x3fffffff (0x3ff00000) MX[B]E(B) [2] -1 0 0x000f0000 - 0x000fffff (0x10000) MX[B] [3] -1 0 0x000c0000 - 0x000effff (0x30000) MX[B] [4] -1 0 0x00000000 - 0x0009ffff (0xa0000) MX[B] [5] -1 0 0x0000ffff - 0x0000ffff (0x1) IX[B] [6] -1 0 0x00000000 - 0x000000ff (0x100) IX[B] (II) PCI Memory resource overlap reduced 0xd0000000 from 0xdfffffff to 0xcfffffff (II) Active PCI resource ranges: [0] -1 0 0xd2001000 - 0xd2001fff (0x1000) MX[B]E [1] -1 0 0xd6001000 - 0xd6001fff (0x1000) MX[B]E [2] -1 0 0xd6000000 - 0xd7ffffff (0x2000000) MX[B]E [3] -1 0 0xd6002000 - 0xd6003fff (0x2000) MX[B]E [4] -1 0 0xd0000000 - 0xcfffffff (0x0) MX[B]EO [5] -1 0 0xd3000000 - 0xd3001fff (0x2000) MX[B](B) [6] -1 0 0xc0000000 - 0xcfffffff (0x10000000) MX[B](B) [7] -1 0 0xd2000000 - 0xd2000fff (0x1000) MX[B](B) [8] -1 0 0x0000d400 - 0x0000d4ff (0x100) IX[B]E [9] -1 0 0x0000d000 - 0x0000d0ff (0x100) IX[B]E [10] -1 0 0x0000f000 - 0x0000f0ff (0x100) IX[B]E [11] -1 0 0x0000e000 - 0x0000e0ff (0x100) IX[B]E (II) PCI Memory resource overlap reduced 0xd6000000 from 0xd7ffffff to 0xd6000fff (II) Active PCI resource ranges after removing overlaps: [0] -1 0 0xd2001000 - 0xd2001fff (0x1000) MX[B]E [1] -1 0 0xd6001000 - 0xd6001fff (0x1000) MX[B]E [2] -1 0 0xd6000000 - 0xd6000fff (0x1000) MX[B]E [3] -1 0 0xd6002000 - 0xd6003fff (0x2000) MX[B]E [4] -1 0 0xd0000000 - 0xcfffffff (0x0) MX[B]EO [5] -1 0 0xd3000000 - 0xd3001fff (0x2000) MX[B](B) [6] -1 0 0xc0000000 - 0xcfffffff (0x10000000) MX[B](B) [7] -1 0 0xd2000000 - 0xd2000fff (0x1000) MX[B](B) [8] -1 0 0x0000d400 - 0x0000d4ff (0x100) IX[B]E [9] -1 0 0x0000d000 - 0x0000d0ff (0x100) IX[B]E [10] -1 0 0x0000f000 - 0x0000f0ff (0x100) IX[B]E [11] -1 0 0x0000e000 - 0x0000e0ff (0x100) IX[B]E (II) OS-reported resource ranges after removing overlaps with PCI: [0] -1 0 0xffe00000 - 0xffffffff (0x200000) MX[B](B) [1] -1 0 0x00100000 - 0x3fffffff (0x3ff00000) MX[B]E(B) [2] -1 0 0x000f0000 - 0x000fffff (0x10000) MX[B] [3] -1 0 0x000c0000 - 0x000effff (0x30000) MX[B] [4] -1 0 0x00000000 - 0x0009ffff (0xa0000) MX[B] [5] -1 0 0x0000ffff - 0x0000ffff (0x1) IX[B] [6] -1 0 0x00000000 - 0x000000ff (0x100) IX[B] (II) All system resource ranges: [0] -1 0 0xffe00000 - 0xffffffff (0x200000) MX[B](B) [1] -1 0 0x00100000 - 0x3fffffff (0x3ff00000) MX[B]E(B) [2] -1 0 0x000f0000 - 0x000fffff (0x10000) MX[B] [3] -1 0 0x000c0000 - 0x000effff (0x30000) MX[B] [4] -1 0 0x00000000 - 0x0009ffff (0xa0000) MX[B] [5] -1 0 0xd2001000 - 0xd2001fff (0x1000) MX[B]E [6] -1 0 0xd6001000 - 0xd6001fff (0x1000) MX[B]E [7] -1 0 0xd6000000 - 0xd6000fff (0x1000) MX[B]E [8] -1 0 0xd6002000 - 0xd6003fff (0x2000) MX[B]E [9] -1 0 0xd0000000 - 0xcfffffff (0x0) MX[B]EO [10] -1 0 0xd3000000 - 0xd3001fff (0x2000) MX[B](B) [11] -1 0 0xc0000000 - 0xcfffffff (0x10000000) MX[B](B) [12] -1 0 0xd2000000 - 0xd2000fff (0x1000) MX[B](B) [13] -1 0 0x0000ffff - 0x0000ffff (0x1) IX[B] [14] -1 0 0x00000000 - 0x000000ff (0x100) IX[B] [15] -1 0 0x0000d400 - 0x0000d4ff (0x100) IX[B]E [16] -1 0 0x0000d000 - 0x0000d0ff (0x100) IX[B]E [17] -1 0 0x0000f000 - 0x0000f0ff (0x100) IX[B]E [18] -1 0 0x0000e000 - 0x0000e0ff (0x100) IX[B]E (II) LoadModule: "dri" (II) Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/extensions/libdri.a (II) Module dri: vendor="X.Org Foundation" compiled for 6.8.2, module version = 1.0.0 ABI class: X.Org Server Extension, version 0.2 (II) Loading sub module "drm" (II) LoadModule: "drm" (II) Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/freebsd/libdrm.a (II) Module drm: vendor="X.Org Foundation" compiled for 6.8.2, module version = 1.0.0 ABI class: X.Org Server Extension, version 0.2 (II) Loading extension XFree86-DRI (II) LoadModule: "mtx" (II) Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/drivers/mtx_drv.o (II) Module mtx: vendor="Matrox Graphics Inc." compiled for 4.3.99.902, module version = 1.4.1 Module class: X.Org Video Driver ABI class: X.Org Video Driver, version 0.7 (II) Loading extension MTXGamma (II) LoadModule: "kbd" (II) Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/input/kbd_drv.o (II) Module kbd: vendor="X.Org Foundation" compiled for 6.8.2, module version = 1.0.0 Module class: X.Org XInput Driver ABI class: X.Org XInput driver, version 0.4 (II) LoadModule: "mouse" (II) Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/input/mouse_drv.o (II) Module mouse: vendor="X.Org Foundation" compiled for 6.8.2, module version = 1.0.0 Module class: X.Org XInput Driver ABI class: X.Org XInput driver, version 0.4 (II) MTX: Driver for Matrox chipsets: P-Series Family A, P-Series Family B, P-Series Family C, P-Series Family D (II) Primary Device is: PCI 02:00:0 (--) Chipset P-Series Family B found (--) Chipset P-Series Family B found (II) resource ranges after xf86ClaimFixedResources() call: [0] -1 0 0xffe00000 - 0xffffffff (0x200000) MX[B](B) [1] -1 0 0x00100000 - 0x3fffffff (0x3ff00000) MX[B]E(B) [2] -1 0 0x000f0000 - 0x000fffff (0x10000) MX[B] [3] -1 0 0x000c0000 - 0x000effff (0x30000) MX[B] [4] -1 0 0x00000000 - 0x0009ffff (0xa0000) MX[B] [5] -1 0 0xd2001000 - 0xd2001fff (0x1000) MX[B]E [6] -1 0 0xd6001000 - 0xd6001fff (0x1000) MX[B]E [7] -1 0 0xd6000000 - 0xd6000fff (0x1000) MX[B]E [8] -1 0 0xd6002000 - 0xd6003fff (0x2000) MX[B]E [9] -1 0 0xd0000000 - 0xcfffffff (0x0) MX[B]EO [10] -1 0 0xd3000000 - 0xd3001fff (0x2000) MX[B](B) [11] -1 0 0xc0000000 - 0xcfffffff (0x10000000) MX[B](B) [12] -1 0 0xd2000000 - 0xd2000fff (0x1000) MX[B](B) [13] -1 0 0x0000ffff - 0x0000ffff (0x1) IX[B] [14] -1 0 0x00000000 - 0x000000ff (0x100) IX[B] [15] -1 0 0x0000d400 - 0x0000d4ff (0x100) IX[B]E [16] -1 0 0x0000d000 - 0x0000d0ff (0x100) IX[B]E [17] -1 0 0x0000f000 - 0x0000f0ff (0x100) IX[B]E [18] -1 0 0x0000e000 - 0x0000e0ff (0x100) IX[B]E (II) resource ranges after probing: [0] -1 0 0xffe00000 - 0xffffffff (0x200000) MX[B](B) [1] -1 0 0x00100000 - 0x3fffffff (0x3ff00000) MX[B]E(B) [2] -1 0 0x000f0000 - 0x000fffff (0x10000) MX[B] [3] -1 0 0x000c0000 - 0x000effff (0x30000) MX[B] [4] -1 0 0x00000000 - 0x0009ffff (0xa0000) MX[B] [5] -1 0 0xd2001000 - 0xd2001fff (0x1000) MX[B]E [6] -1 0 0xd6001000 - 0xd6001fff (0x1000) MX[B]E [7] -1 0 0xd6000000 - 0xd6000fff (0x1000) MX[B]E [8] -1 0 0xd6002000 - 0xd6003fff (0x2000) MX[B]E [9] -1 0 0xd0000000 - 0xcfffffff (0x0) MX[B]EO [10] -1 0 0xd3000000 - 0xd3001fff (0x2000) MX[B](B) [11] -1 0 0xc0000000 - 0xcfffffff (0x10000000) MX[B](B) [12] -1 0 0xd2000000 - 0xd2000fff (0x1000) MX[B](B) [13] 0 0 0x000a0000 - 0x000affff (0x10000) MS[B] [14] 0 0 0x000b0000 - 0x000b7fff (0x8000) MS[B] [15] 0 0 0x000b8000 - 0x000bffff (0x8000) MS[B] [16] -1 0 0x0000ffff - 0x0000ffff (0x1) IX[B] [17] -1 0 0x00000000 - 0x000000ff (0x100) IX[B] [18] -1 0 0x0000d400 - 0x0000d4ff (0x100) IX[B]E [19] -1 0 0x0000d000 - 0x0000d0ff (0x100) IX[B]E [20] -1 0 0x0000f000 - 0x0000f0ff (0x100) IX[B]E [21] -1 0 0x0000e000 - 0x0000e0ff (0x100) IX[B]E [22] 0 0 0x000003b0 - 0x000003bb (0xc) IS[B] [23] 0 0 0x000003c0 - 0x000003df (0x20) IS[B] (II) Setting vga for screen 0. (II) Setting vga for screen 1. (II) Loading sub module "vgahw" (II) LoadModule: "vgahw" (II) Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/libvgahw.a (II) Module vgahw: vendor="X.Org Foundation" compiled for 6.8.2, module version = 0.1.0 ABI class: X.Org Video Driver, version 0.7 (II) MTX(0): MGA instIndex = 0 (--) MTX(0): Linear framebuffer at 0xC0000000 (--) MTX(0): MMIO registers at 0xD3000000 (==) MTX(0): BIOS at 0xC0000 (II) MTX(0): Device Id [0528] Subsys Id [1030] (II) MTX(0): Device Name [Parhelia 256MB Dual DVI] (**) MTX(0): Total Video RAM: 262144 kByte (==) MTX(0): Write-combining range (0xd3000000,0x2000) was already clear (==) MTX(0): Write-combining range (0xc0000000,0x10000000) (**) MTX(0): Depth 24, (**) framebuffer bpp 32 (==) MTX(0): Default visual is TrueColor (**) MTX(0): Depth 24, (**) framebuffer bpp 32 (==) MTX(0): Default visual is TrueColor (==) MTX(0): RGB weight 888 (**) MTX(0): Option "HWcursor" "off" (**) MTX(0): Option "Busmastering" "on" (**) MTX(0): Option "DigitalScreen1" "on" (II) MTX(0): Monitor Input Type = 2 (==) MTX(0): Using gamma correction (1.0, 1.0, 1.0) (II) MTX(0): Acceleration is enabled (WW) MTX(0): Using software cursor (II) MTX(0): Forcing Digital Output (II) MTX(0): Digital is available (==) MTX(0): Min pixel clock is 12 MHz (==) MTX(0): Max pixel clock is 164 MHz (II) MTX(0): Monitor0: Using hsync range of 30.00-130.00 kHz (II) MTX(0): Monitor0: Using vrefresh range of 50.00-200.00 Hz (II) MTX(0): Clock range: 12.00 to 164.00 MHz (II) MTX(0): Not using default mode "320x175" (bad mode clock/interlace/doublescan) (II) MTX(0): Not using default mode "320x200" (bad mode clock/interlace/doublescan) (II) MTX(0): Not using default mode "360x200" (bad mode clock/interlace/doublescan) (II) MTX(0): Not using default mode "320x240" (bad mode clock/interlace/doublescan) (II) MTX(0): Not using default mode "320x240" (bad mode clock/interlace/doublescan) (II) MTX(0): Not using default mode "320x240" (bad mode clock/interlace/doublescan) (II) MTX(0): Not using default mode "320x240" (bad mode clock/interlace/doublescan) (II) MTX(0): Not using default mode "400x300" (bad mode clock/interlace/doublescan) (II) MTX(0): Not using default mode "400x300" (bad mode clock/interlace/doublescan) (II) MTX(0): Not using default mode "400x300" (bad mode clock/interlace/doublescan) (II) MTX(0): Not using default mode "400x300" (bad mode clock/interlace/doublescan) (II) MTX(0): Not using default mode "400x300" (bad mode clock/interlace/doublescan) (II) MTX(0): Not using default mode "1024x768" (bad mode clock/interlace/doublescan) (II) MTX(0): Not using default mode "512x384" (bad mode clock/interlace/doublescan) (II) MTX(0): Not using default mode "512x384" (bad mode clock/interlace/doublescan) (II) MTX(0): Not using default mode "512x384" (bad mode clock/interlace/doublescan) (II) MTX(0): Not using default mode "512x384" (bad mode clock/interlace/doublescan) (II) MTX(0): Not using default mode "512x384" (bad mode clock/interlace/doublescan) (II) MTX(0): Not using default mode "576x432" (bad mode clock/interlace/doublescan) (II) MTX(0): Not using default mode "640x480" (bad mode clock/interlace/doublescan) (II) MTX(0): Not using default mode "640x480" (bad mode clock/interlace/doublescan) (II) MTX(0): Not using default mode "640x512" (bad mode clock/interlace/doublescan) (II) MTX(0): Not using default mode "640x512" (bad mode clock/interlace/doublescan) (II) MTX(0): Not using default mode "640x512" (bad mode clock/interlace/doublescan) (II) MTX(0): Not using default mode "800x600" (bad mode clock/interlace/doublescan) (II) MTX(0): Not using default mode "1600x1200" (bad mode clock/interlace/doublescan) (II) MTX(0): Not using default mode "800x600" (bad mode clock/interlace/doublescan) (II) MTX(0): Not using default mode "1600x1200" (bad mode clock/interlace/doublescan) (II) MTX(0): Not using default mode "800x600" (bad mode clock/interlace/doublescan) (II) MTX(0): Not using default mode "1600x1200" (bad mode clock/interlace/doublescan) (II) MTX(0): Not using default mode "800x600" (bad mode clock/interlace/doublescan) (II) MTX(0): Not using default mode "1600x1200" (bad mode clock/interlace/doublescan) (II) MTX(0): Not using default mode "800x600" (bad mode clock/interlace/doublescan) (II) MTX(0): Not using default mode "1792x1344" (bad mode clock/interlace/doublescan) (II) MTX(0): Not using default mode "896x672" (bad mode clock/interlace/doublescan) (II) MTX(0): Not using default mode "1792x1344" (bad mode clock/interlace/doublescan) (II) MTX(0): Not using default mode "896x672" (bad mode clock/interlace/doublescan) (II) MTX(0): Not using default mode "1856x1392" (bad mode clock/interlace/doublescan) (II) MTX(0): Not using default mode "928x696" (bad mode clock/interlace/doublescan) (II) MTX(0): Not using default mode "1856x1392" (bad mode clock/interlace/doublescan) (II) MTX(0): Not using default mode "928x696" (bad mode clock/interlace/doublescan) (II) MTX(0): Not using default mode "1920x1440" (bad mode clock/interlace/doublescan) (II) MTX(0): Not using default mode "960x720" (bad mode clock/interlace/doublescan) (II) MTX(0): Not using default mode "1920x1440" (bad mode clock/interlace/doublescan) (II) MTX(0): Not using default mode "960x720" (bad mode clock/interlace/doublescan) (II) MTX(0): Not using default mode "416x312" (bad mode clock/interlace/doublescan) (II) MTX(0): Not using default mode "576x384" (bad mode clock/interlace/doublescan) (II) MTX(0): Not using default mode "700x525" (bad mode clock/interlace/doublescan) (II) MTX(0): Not using default mode "700x525" (bad mode clock/interlace/doublescan) (II) MTX(0): Not using default mode "800x512" (bad mode clock/interlace/doublescan) (II) MTX(0): Not using default mode "1920x1440" (bad mode clock/interlace/doublescan) (II) MTX(0): Not using default mode "960x720" (bad mode clock/interlace/doublescan) (II) MTX(0): Not using default mode "2048x1536" (bad mode clock/interlace/doublescan) (II) MTX(0): Not using default mode "1024x768" (bad mode clock/interlace/doublescan) (II) MTX(0): Not using default mode "2048x1536" (bad mode clock/interlace/doublescan) (II) MTX(0): Not using default mode "1024x768" (bad mode clock/interlace/doublescan) (II) MTX(0): Not using default mode "2048x1536" (bad mode clock/interlace/doublescan) (II) MTX(0): Not using default mode "1024x768" (bad mode clock/interlace/doublescan) (II) MTX(0): TV Standard : NTSC (II) MTX(0): First X instance - (II) MTX(0): Using Digital Output (II) MTX(0): TV Standard : NTSC (II) MTX(0): First X instance - (II) MTX(0): Using Digital Output (II) MTX(0): TV Standard : NTSC (II) MTX(0): First X instance - (II) MTX(0): Using Digital Output (II) MTX(0): TV Standard : NTSC (II) MTX(0): First X instance - (II) MTX(0): Using Digital Output (II) MTX(0): TV Standard : NTSC (II) MTX(0): First X instance - (II) MTX(0): Using Digital Output (==) MTX(0): DPI set to (75, 75) (II) MTX(0): TV Standard : NTSC (II) MTX(0): First X instance - (II) MTX(0): Using Digital Output (--) MTX(0): Virtual size is 1600x1200 (pitch 2048) (**) MTX(0): *Default mode "1600x1200": 162.0 MHz, 75.0 kHz, 60.0 Hz (II) MTX(0): Modeline "1600x1200" 162.00 1600 1664 1856 2160 1200 1201 1204 1250 +hsync +vsync (**) MTX(0): *Default mode "1280x1024": 157.5 MHz, 91.1 kHz, 85.0 Hz (II) MTX(0): Modeline "1280x1024" 157.50 1280 1344 1504 1728 1024 1025 1028 1072 +hsync +vsync (**) MTX(0): *Default mode "1024x768": 94.5 MHz, 68.7 kHz, 85.0 Hz (II) MTX(0): Modeline "1024x768" 94.50 1024 1072 1168 1376 768 769 772 808 +hsync +vsync (**) MTX(0): *Default mode "800x600": 56.3 MHz, 53.7 kHz, 85.1 Hz (II) MTX(0): Modeline "800x600" 56.30 800 832 896 1048 600 601 604 631 +hsync +vsync (**) MTX(0): *Default mode "640x480": 36.0 MHz, 43.3 kHz, 85.0 Hz (II) MTX(0): Modeline "640x480" 36.00 640 696 752 832 480 481 484 509 -hsync -vsync (II) MTX(0): Total Memory for Onscreen and Offscreen : 0xafc800 (II) MTX(0): Cursor Offset at 0x00000000 (II) MTX(0): Cursor Aperture at 0x00000000 (II) Loading sub module "ramdac" (II) LoadModule: "ramdac" (II) Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/libramdac.a (II) Module ramdac: vendor="X.Org Foundation" compiled for 6.8.2, module version = 0.1.0 ABI class: X.Org Video Driver, version 0.7 (II) Loading sub module "fb" (II) LoadModule: "fb" (II) Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/libfb.a (II) Module fb: vendor="X.Org Foundation" compiled for 6.8.2, module version = 1.0.0 ABI class: X.Org ANSI C Emulation, version 0.2 (WW) MTX(0): Error #3 while loading Kernel Driver. (WW) MTX(0): Falling back to Emulating DMA (II) Loading sub module "xaa" (II) LoadModule: "xaa" (II) Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/libxaa.a (II) Module xaa: vendor="X.Org Foundation" compiled for 6.8.2, module version = 1.2.0 ABI class: X.Org Video Driver, version 0.7 (II) MTX(0): Emulated Busmastering (II) Loading sub module "vgahw" (II) LoadModule: "vgahw" (II) Reloading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/libvgahw.a (II) MTX(1): MGA instIndex = 1 (--) MTX(1): Linear framebuffer at 0xC0000000 (--) MTX(1): MMIO registers at 0xD3000000 (==) MTX(1): BIOS at 0xC0000 (II) MTX(1): Device Id [0528] Subsys Id [1030] (II) MTX(1): Device Name [Parhelia 256MB Dual DVI] (**) MTX(1): Total Video RAM: 262144 kByte (==) MTX(1): Write-combining range (0xd3000000,0x2000) was already clear (==) MTX(1): Write-combining range (0xc0000000,0x10000000) (**) MTX(1): Depth 24, (**) framebuffer bpp 32 (==) MTX(1): Default visual is TrueColor (**) MTX(1): Depth 24, (**) framebuffer bpp 32 (==) MTX(1): Default visual is TrueColor (==) MTX(1): RGB weight 888 (**) MTX(1): Option "HWcursor" "off" (**) MTX(1): Option "Busmastering" "on" (**) MTX(1): Option "DigitalScreen2" "on" (II) MTX(1): Monitor Input Type = 2 (==) MTX(1): Using gamma correction (1.0, 1.0, 1.0) (II) MTX(1): Acceleration is enabled (WW) MTX(1): Using software cursor (II) MTX(1): Forcing Digital Output (II) MTX(1): Digital is available (==) MTX(1): Min pixel clock is 12 MHz (==) MTX(1): Max pixel clock is 164 MHz (II) MTX(1): Monitor1: Using hsync range of 30.00-130.00 kHz (II) MTX(1): Monitor1: Using vrefresh range of 50.00-200.00 Hz (II) MTX(1): Clock range: 12.00 to 164.00 MHz (II) MTX(1): Not using default mode "320x175" (bad mode clock/interlace/doublescan) (II) MTX(1): Not using default mode "320x200" (bad mode clock/interlace/doublescan) (II) MTX(1): Not using default mode "360x200" (bad mode clock/interlace/doublescan) (II) MTX(1): Not using default mode "320x240" (bad mode clock/interlace/doublescan) (II) MTX(1): Not using default mode "320x240" (bad mode clock/interlace/doublescan) (II) MTX(1): Not using default mode "320x240" (bad mode clock/interlace/doublescan) (II) MTX(1): Not using default mode "320x240" (bad mode clock/interlace/doublescan) (II) MTX(1): Not using default mode "400x300" (bad mode clock/interlace/doublescan) (II) MTX(1): Not using default mode "400x300" (bad mode clock/interlace/doublescan) (II) MTX(1): Not using default mode "400x300" (bad mode clock/interlace/doublescan) (II) MTX(1): Not using default mode "400x300" (bad mode clock/interlace/doublescan) (II) MTX(1): Not using default mode "400x300" (bad mode clock/interlace/doublescan) (II) MTX(1): Not using default mode "1024x768" (bad mode clock/interlace/doublescan) (II) MTX(1): Not using default mode "512x384" (bad mode clock/interlace/doublescan) (II) MTX(1): Not using default mode "512x384" (bad mode clock/interlace/doublescan) (II) MTX(1): Not using default mode "512x384" (bad mode clock/interlace/doublescan) (II) MTX(1): Not using default mode "512x384" (bad mode clock/interlace/doublescan) (II) MTX(1): Not using default mode "512x384" (bad mode clock/interlace/doublescan) (II) MTX(1): Not using default mode "576x432" (bad mode clock/interlace/doublescan) (II) MTX(1): Not using default mode "640x480" (bad mode clock/interlace/doublescan) (II) MTX(1): Not using default mode "640x480" (bad mode clock/interlace/doublescan) (II) MTX(1): Not using default mode "640x512" (bad mode clock/interlace/doublescan) (II) MTX(1): Not using default mode "640x512" (bad mode clock/interlace/doublescan) (II) MTX(1): Not using default mode "640x512" (bad mode clock/interlace/doublescan) (II) MTX(1): Not using default mode "800x600" (bad mode clock/interlace/doublescan) (II) MTX(1): Not using default mode "1600x1200" (bad mode clock/interlace/doublescan) (II) MTX(1): Not using default mode "800x600" (bad mode clock/interlace/doublescan) (II) MTX(1): Not using default mode "1600x1200" (bad mode clock/interlace/doublescan) (II) MTX(1): Not using default mode "800x600" (bad mode clock/interlace/doublescan) (II) MTX(1): Not using default mode "1600x1200" (bad mode clock/interlace/doublescan) (II) MTX(1): Not using default mode "800x600" (bad mode clock/interlace/doublescan) (II) MTX(1): Not using default mode "1600x1200" (bad mode clock/interlace/doublescan) (II) MTX(1): Not using default mode "800x600" (bad mode clock/interlace/doublescan) (II) MTX(1): Not using default mode "1792x1344" (bad mode clock/interlace/doublescan) (II) MTX(1): Not using default mode "896x672" (bad mode clock/interlace/doublescan) (II) MTX(1): Not using default mode "1792x1344" (bad mode clock/interlace/doublescan) (II) MTX(1): Not using default mode "896x672" (bad mode clock/interlace/doublescan) (II) MTX(1): Not using default mode "1856x1392" (bad mode clock/interlace/doublescan) (II) MTX(1): Not using default mode "928x696" (bad mode clock/interlace/doublescan) (II) MTX(1): Not using default mode "1856x1392" (bad mode clock/interlace/doublescan) (II) MTX(1): Not using default mode "928x696" (bad mode clock/interlace/doublescan) (II) MTX(1): Not using default mode "1920x1440" (bad mode clock/interlace/doublescan) (II) MTX(1): Not using default mode "960x720" (bad mode clock/interlace/doublescan) (II) MTX(1): Not using default mode "1920x1440" (bad mode clock/interlace/doublescan) (II) MTX(1): Not using default mode "960x720" (bad mode clock/interlace/doublescan) (II) MTX(1): Not using default mode "416x312" (bad mode clock/interlace/doublescan) (II) MTX(1): Not using default mode "576x384" (bad mode clock/interlace/doublescan) (II) MTX(1): Not using default mode "700x525" (bad mode clock/interlace/doublescan) (II) MTX(1): Not using default mode "700x525" (bad mode clock/interlace/doublescan) (II) MTX(1): Not using default mode "800x512" (bad mode clock/interlace/doublescan) (II) MTX(1): Not using default mode "1920x1440" (bad mode clock/interlace/doublescan) (II) MTX(1): Not using default mode "960x720" (bad mode clock/interlace/doublescan) (II) MTX(1): Not using default mode "2048x1536" (bad mode clock/interlace/doublescan) (II) MTX(1): Not using default mode "1024x768" (bad mode clock/interlace/doublescan) (II) MTX(1): Not using default mode "2048x1536" (bad mode clock/interlace/doublescan) (II) MTX(1): Not using default mode "1024x768" (bad mode clock/interlace/doublescan) (II) MTX(1): Not using default mode "2048x1536" (bad mode clock/interlace/doublescan) (II) MTX(1): Not using default mode "1024x768" (bad mode clock/interlace/doublescan) (II) MTX(1): TV Standard : NTSC (II) MTX(1): Second X instance - (II) MTX(1): Using Digital Output (II) MTX(1): TV Standard : NTSC (II) MTX(1): Second X instance - (II) MTX(1): Using Digital Output (II) MTX(1): TV Standard : NTSC (II) MTX(1): Second X instance - (II) MTX(1): Using Digital Output (II) MTX(1): TV Standard : NTSC (II) MTX(1): Second X instance - (II) MTX(1): Using Digital Output (II) MTX(1): TV Standard : NTSC (II) MTX(1): Second X instance - (II) MTX(1): Using Digital Output (==) MTX(1): DPI set to (75, 75) (II) MTX(1): TV Standard : NTSC (II) MTX(1): Second X instance - (II) MTX(1): Using Digital Output (--) MTX(1): Virtual size is 1600x1200 (pitch 2048) (**) MTX(1): *Default mode "1600x1200": 162.0 MHz, 75.0 kHz, 60.0 Hz (II) MTX(1): Modeline "1600x1200" 162.00 1600 1664 1856 2160 1200 1201 1204 1250 +hsync +vsync (**) MTX(1): *Default mode "1280x1024": 157.5 MHz, 91.1 kHz, 85.0 Hz (II) MTX(1): Modeline "1280x1024" 157.50 1280 1344 1504 1728 1024 1025 1028 1072 +hsync +vsync (**) MTX(1): *Default mode "1024x768": 94.5 MHz, 68.7 kHz, 85.0 Hz (II) MTX(1): Modeline "1024x768" 94.50 1024 1072 1168 1376 768 769 772 808 +hsync +vsync (**) MTX(1): *Default mode "800x600": 56.3 MHz, 53.7 kHz, 85.1 Hz (II) MTX(1): Modeline "800x600" 56.30 800 832 896 1048 600 601 604 631 +hsync +vsync (**) MTX(1): *Default mode "640x480": 36.0 MHz, 43.3 kHz, 85.0 Hz (II) MTX(1): Modeline "640x480" 36.00 640 696 752 832 480 481 484 509 -hsync -vsync (II) MTX(1): Total Memory for Onscreen and Offscreen : 0xafc800 (II) MTX(1): Cursor Offset at 0x00000000 (II) MTX(1): Cursor Aperture at 0x00000000 (II) Loading sub module "ramdac" (II) LoadModule: "ramdac" (II) Reloading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/libramdac.a (II) Loading sub module "fb" (II) LoadModule: "fb" (II) Reloading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/libfb.a (II) Loading sub module "xaa" (II) LoadModule: "xaa" (II) Reloading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/libxaa.a (II) MTX(1): Emulated Busmastering (--) Depth 24 pixmap format is 32 bpp (II) do I need RAC? Yes, I do. (II) LoadModule: "rac" (II) Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/librac.a (II) Module rac: vendor="X.Org Foundation" compiled for 6.8.2, module version = 1.0.0 ABI class: X.Org Video Driver, version 0.7 (II) resource ranges after preInit: [0] 0 0 0xd3000000 - 0xd3001fff (0x2000) MX[B] [1] 0 0 0xc0000000 - 0xcfffffff (0x10000000) MX[B] [2] 0 0 0xd3000000 - 0xd3001fff (0x2000) MX[B] [3] 0 0 0xc0000000 - 0xcfffffff (0x10000000) MX[B] [4] -1 0 0xffe00000 - 0xffffffff (0x200000) MX[B](B) [5] -1 0 0x00100000 - 0x3fffffff (0x3ff00000) MX[B]E(B) [6] -1 0 0x000f0000 - 0x000fffff (0x10000) MX[B] [7] -1 0 0x000c0000 - 0x000effff (0x30000) MX[B] [8] -1 0 0x00000000 - 0x0009ffff (0xa0000) MX[B] [9] -1 0 0xd2001000 - 0xd2001fff (0x1000) MX[B]E [10] -1 0 0xd6001000 - 0xd6001fff (0x1000) MX[B]E [11] -1 0 0xd6000000 - 0xd6000fff (0x1000) MX[B]E [12] -1 0 0xd6002000 - 0xd6003fff (0x2000) MX[B]E [13] -1 0 0xd0000000 - 0xcfffffff (0x0) MX[B]EO [14] -1 0 0xd3000000 - 0xd3001fff (0x2000) MX[B](B) [15] -1 0 0xc0000000 - 0xcfffffff (0x10000000) MX[B](B) [16] -1 0 0xd2000000 - 0xd2000fff (0x1000) MX[B](B) [17] 0 0 0x000a0000 - 0x000affff (0x10000) MS[B](OprD) [18] 0 0 0x000b0000 - 0x000b7fff (0x8000) MS[B](OprD) [19] 0 0 0x000b8000 - 0x000bffff (0x8000) MS[B](OprD) [20] -1 0 0x0000ffff - 0x0000ffff (0x1) IX[B] [21] -1 0 0x00000000 - 0x000000ff (0x100) IX[B] [22] -1 0 0x0000d400 - 0x0000d4ff (0x100) IX[B]E [23] -1 0 0x0000d000 - 0x0000d0ff (0x100) IX[B]E [24] -1 0 0x0000f000 - 0x0000f0ff (0x100) IX[B]E [25] -1 0 0x0000e000 - 0x0000e0ff (0x100) IX[B]E [26] 0 0 0x000003b0 - 0x000003bb (0xc) IS[B](OprU) [27] 0 0 0x000003c0 - 0x000003df (0x20) IS[B](OprU) (==) MTX(0): Write-combining range (0xd3000000,0x2000) was already clear (==) MTX(0): Write-combining range (0xc0000000,0x10000000) (II) MTX(0): vgaHWGetIOBase: hwp->IOBase is 0x03d0, hwp->PIOOffset is 0x0000 (==) MTX(0): Write-combining range (0xa0000,0x10000) was already clear (WW) MTX(0): Cannot stop features. (II) MTX(0): TV Standard : NTSC (II) MTX(0): First X instance - (II) MTX(0): Using Digital Output (WW) MTX(0): Error occured while starting the features. (II) MTX(0): Cursor Aperture location 0x00e80000. (II) MTX(0): Cursor Surface location 0x07f00000. (II) MTX(0): Parhelia device started. (II) MTX(0): TV Standard : NTSC (II) MTX(0): First X instance - (II) MTX(0): Using Digital Output (==) MTX(0): Default visual is TrueColor (II) MTX(0): Using 600 lines for offscreen memory. (II) MTX(0): Memory manager initialized to (0,0) (1600,1800) (II) MTX(0): Largest offscreen area available: 1600 x 600 (II) MTX(0): Using XFree86 Acceleration Architecture (XAA) Screen to screen bit blits Solid filled rectangles 8x8 mono pattern filled rectangles Indirect CPU to Screen color expansion Solid Lines Offscreen Pixmaps Driver provided ScreenToScreenBitBlt replacement Driver provided FillSolidRects replacement Driver provided FillSolidSpans replacement Driver provided WritePixmap replacement Driver provided ReadPixmap replacement Setting up tile and stipple cache: 24 128x128 slots 6 256x256 slots (==) MTX(0): Backing store disabled (==) MTX(0): Silken mouse enabled (II) MTX(0): Using SW cursor (**) Option "dpms" (**) MTX(0): DPMS enabled (==) RandR enabled (==) MTX(1): Write-combining range (0xd3000000,0x2000) was already clear (==) MTX(1): Write-combining range (0xc0000000,0x10000000) was already set (II) MTX(1): vgaHWGetIOBase: hwp->IOBase is 0x03b0, hwp->PIOOffset is 0x0000 (WW) MTX(1): Cannot stop features. (II) MTX(1): TV Standard : NTSC (II) MTX(1): Second X instance - (II) MTX(1): Using Digital Output (WW) MTX(1): Error occured while starting the features. (II) MTX(1): Cursor Aperture location 0x00e80000. (II) MTX(1): Cursor Surface location 0x07f00000. (II) MTX(1): Parhelia device started. (II) MTX(1): TV Standard : NTSC (II) MTX(1): Second X instance - (II) MTX(1): Using Digital Output (==) MTX(1): Default visual is TrueColor (II) MTX(1): Using 600 lines for offscreen memory. (II) MTX(1): Memory manager initialized to (0,0) (1600,1800) (II) MTX(1): Largest offscreen area available: 1600 x 600 (II) MTX(1): Using XFree86 Acceleration Architecture (XAA) Screen to screen bit blits Solid filled rectangles 8x8 mono pattern filled rectangles Indirect CPU to Screen color expansion Solid Lines Offscreen Pixmaps Driver provided ScreenToScreenBitBlt replacement Driver provided FillSolidRects replacement Driver provided FillSolidSpans replacement Driver provided WritePixmap replacement Driver provided ReadPixmap replacement Setting up tile and stipple cache: 24 128x128 slots 6 256x256 slots (==) MTX(1): Backing store disabled (==) MTX(1): Silken mouse enabled (II) MTX(1): Using SW cursor (**) Option "dpms" (**) MTX(1): DPMS enabled (==) RandR enabled Symbol __glXgetActiveScreen from module /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/extensions/libdri.a is unresolved! Symbol __glXgetActiveScreen from module /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/extensions/libdri.a is unresolved! (II) Entity 0 shares no resources (II) Entity 1 shares no resources (II) Initializing built-in extension MIT-SHM (II) Initializing built-in extension XInputExtension (II) Initializing built-in extension XTEST (II) Initializing built-in extension XKEYBOARD (II) Initializing built-in extension XC-APPGROUP (II) Initializing built-in extension SECURITY (II) Initializing built-in extension XINERAMA (II) Initializing built-in extension XFIXES (II) Initializing built-in extension XFree86-Bigfont (II) Initializing built-in extension RENDER (II) Initializing built-in extension RANDR (II) Initializing built-in extension COMPOSITE (II) Initializing built-in extension DAMAGE (II) Initializing built-in extension XEVIE (**) Option "CoreKeyboard" (**) Microsoft_Natural: Core Keyboard (**) Option "Protocol" "standard" (**) Microsoft_Natural: Protocol: standard (**) Option "AutoRepeat" "500 30" (**) Option "XkbRules" "xfree86" (**) Microsoft_Natural: XkbRules: "xfree86" (**) Option "XkbModel" "pc105" (**) Microsoft_Natural: XkbModel: "pc105" (**) Option "XkbLayout" "us" (**) Microsoft_Natural: XkbLayout: "us" (**) Option "CustomKeycodes" "off" (**) Microsoft_Natural: CustomKeycodes disabled (**) Option "Protocol" "Auto" (**) Microsoft Intellimouse Explorer: Device: "/dev/sysmouse" (**) Microsoft Intellimouse Explorer: Protocol: "Auto" (**) Option "CorePointer" (**) Microsoft Intellimouse Explorer: Core Pointer (**) Option "Device" "/dev/sysmouse" (**) Option "Buttons" "5" (==) Microsoft Intellimouse Explorer: Emulate3Buttons, Emulate3Timeout: 50 (**) Option "ZAxisMapping" "4 5" (**) Microsoft Intellimouse Explorer: ZAxisMapping: buttons 4 and 5 (**) Microsoft Intellimouse Explorer: Buttons: 5 (**) Option "Resolution" "1600" (**) Microsoft Intellimouse Explorer: Resolution: 1600 (II) XINPUT: Adding extended input device "Microsoft Intellimouse Explorer" (type: MOUSE) (II) XINPUT: Adding extended input device "Microsoft_Natural" (type: KEYBOARD) (II) Microsoft Intellimouse Explorer: SetupAuto: hw.iftype is 4, hw.model is 0 (II) Microsoft Intellimouse Explorer: SetupAuto: protocol is SysMouse Could not init font path element /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/Type1, removing from list! Could not init font path element /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/URW, removing from list! Could not init font path element /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/freefont, removing from list! --45Z9DzgjV8m4Oswq Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="xorg.conf" Section "ServerLayout" Identifier "Layout0" Screen 0 "Screen 0" 0 0 #Screen 1 "Screen 1" 1601 3200 # Screen "Display Merged" #Screen "Screen 0" LeftOf "Screen 1" Screen "Screen 1" LeftOf "Screen 0" InputDevice "Microsoft_Natural" "CoreKeyboard" InputDevice "Microsoft Intellimouse Explorer" "CorePointer" #Option "TripleHead" Option "Xinerama" "true" EndSection Section "ServerFlags" # Option "Xinerama" AllowMouseOpenFail Option "NoPM" Option "TvOut" "off" EndSection Section "Files" FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/misc" FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/Type1" FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi" FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi" FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi/:unscaled" FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi/:unscaled" FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/cyrillic" FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/URW" FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/freefont" FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/misc" RgbPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/rgb" ModulePath "/usr/X11R6/lib/modules" EndSection Section "Module" #Load "extmod" #Load "glx" Load "dri" #Load "dbe" # #Load "record" # Load "xtrap" # Load "type1" # Load "freetype" # Load "ddc" # Load "GLcore" # Load "vbe" # Load "bitmap" # Load "int10" EndSection Section "InputDevice" Identifier "Microsoft_Natural" Driver "kbd" Option "AutoRepeat" "500 30" Option "XkbModel" "pc105" Option "XkbLayout" "us" Option "XkbRules" "xfree86" EndSection Section "InputDevice" Identifier "Microsoft Intellimouse Explorer" Driver "mouse" Option "Protocol" "Auto" Option "Device" "/dev/sysmouse" Option "Buttons" "5" Option "ZAxisMapping" "4 5" Option "Resolution" "1600" Option "CursorShadow" "True" EndSection Section "Monitor" Identifier "Monitor0" VendorName "UltraSharp 2001FP LCD" ModelName "Dell" HorizSync 30.0 - 130.0 VertRefresh 50.0 - 200.0 Option "dpms" #DisplaySize 1600 1200 EndSection Section "Monitor" Identifier "Monitor1" VendorName "UltraSharp 2001FP LCD" ModelName "Dell" HorizSync 30.0 - 130.0 VertRefresh 50.0 - 200.0 Option "dpms" #DisplaySize 1600 1200 EndSection #Section "Monitor" # Identifier "Display Merged" # VendorName "Dell" # ModelName "UltraSharp 2001FP LCD" # HorizSync 30.0 - 130.0 # VertRefresh 50.0 - 200.0 # Option "dpms" # DisplaySize 1600 1200 #EndSection Section "Device" Identifier "Parhelia_256_0" VendorName "Matrox Graphics, Inc." Driver "mtx" VideoRam 262144 Option "HWcursor" "off" BusID "PCI:2:0:0" Option "DPMS" "on" Option "DigitalScreen1" "on" #Option "DigitalScreen2" "on" #Option "TripleHead" #Option "Xinerama" "true" Option "Busmastering" "on" Screen 0 #Screen 1 EndSection Section "Device" Identifier "Parhelia_256_1" VendorName "Matrox Graphics, Inc." Driver "mtx" VideoRam 262144 Option "HWcursor" "off" BusID "PCI:2:0:0" Option "DPMS" "on" #Option "DigitalScreen1" "on" Option "DigitalScreen2" "on" #Option "TripleHead" #Option "Xinerama" "true" Option "Busmastering" "on" #Screen 0 Screen 1 EndSection Section "Screen" Identifier "Screen 0" Device "Parhelia_256_0" Monitor "monitor0" DefaultDepth 24 DefaultColorDepth 24 DefaultFbBpp 32 SubSection "Display" Depth 8 Modes "1600x1200" "1280x1024" "1024x768" "800x600" "640x480" #Modes "1920x1440" "1600x1200" "1280x1024" "1024x768" "800x600" "640x480" EndSubSection SubSection "Display" Depth 16 Modes "1600x1200" "1280x1024" "1024x768" "800x600" "640x480" #Modes "1920x1440" "1600x1200" "1280x1024" "1024x768" "800x600" "640x480" EndSubSection SubSection "Display" Depth 24 Modes "1600x1200" "1280x1024" "1024x768" "800x600" "640x480" #Modes "1920x1440" "1600x1200" "1280x1024" "1024x768" "800x600" "640x480" EndSubSection EndSection Section "Screen" Identifier "Screen 1" Device "Parhelia_256_1" Monitor "monitor1" DefaultDepth 24 DefaultColorDepth 24 DefaultFbBpp 32 SubSection "Display" Depth 8 Modes "1600x1200" "1280x1024" "1024x768" "800x600" "640x480" #Modes "1920x1440" "1600x1200" "1280x1024" "1024x768" "800x600" "640x480" EndSubSection SubSection "Display" Depth 16 Modes "1600x1200" "1280x1024" "1024x768" "800x600" "640x480" #Modes "1920x1440" "1600x1200" "1280x1024" "1024x768" "800x600" "640x480" EndSubSection SubSection "Display" Depth 24 Modes "1600x1200" "1280x1024" "1024x768" "800x600" "640x480" #Modes "1920x1440" "1600x1200" "1280x1024" "1024x768" "800x600" "640x480" EndSubSection EndSection # Section "Screen" # Identifier "Display Merged" # Device "Parhelia_256_0" # Monitor "Display Merged" # DefaultDepth 24 # DefaultFbBPP 32 # Option "Monitor1Position" "LeftOf" # Option "MetaModes" "1600x1200-1600x1200@100Hz:1 1400x1050-1600x1200 1280x1024-1600x1200 1152x864-1600x1200 1024x768-1600x1200 800x600-1600x1200 640x480-1600x1200 1600x1200 " # Option "Monitor1HSync" "30.0-130.0 " # Option "Monitor2HSync" "30.0-130.0 " # Option "Monitor1VRefresh" "50.0-200.0 " # Option "Monitor2VRefresh" "50.0-200.0 " # Option "MergedFB" # SubSection "Display" # Virtual 3200 1200 # Depth 24 # Modes "1600x1200" "1400x1050" "1280x1024" "1152x864" "1024x768" "800x600" "640x480" "1600x1200@60Hz:1" # EndSubSection #EndSection Section "DRI" Group 0 #Group 438 Mode 0666 EndSection --45Z9DzgjV8m4Oswq-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jul 3 06:54:31 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: questions@FreeBSD.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D87E716A41C for ; Sun, 3 Jul 2005 06:54:31 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from javier.mendoza@lufussa.com) Received: from web50103.mail.yahoo.com (web50103.mail.yahoo.com [206.190.38.31]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 78F2C43D48 for ; Sun, 3 Jul 2005 06:54:31 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from javier.mendoza@lufussa.com) Received: (qmail 39765 invoked by uid 60001); 3 Jul 2005 02:54:29 -0000 Message-ID: <20050703025429.39763.qmail@web50103.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [65.164.148.226] by web50103.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sat, 02 Jul 2005 21:54:28 CDT X-RocketYMMF: ivanhhn Date: Sat, 2 Jul 2005 21:54:28 -0500 (CDT) From: Javier Ivan Mendoza To: questions@FreeBSD.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Cc: Subject: FreeBSD/Fedora Core 3/Windows XP X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: javier.mendoza@lufussa.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 03 Jul 2005 06:54:32 -0000 I have installed Windows Xp and Fedora Core 3 on the same hard drive, in another drive is FreeBSD, after FreeBSD 5.3 installation, GNU/GRUB boot loader does not work with FreeBSD; 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Before you post a question here it might be a good idea to first search the mailing list archives and/or The FreeBSD Diary . -- Dan Langille BSDCan - http://www.BSDCan.org/ - BSD Conference From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jul 3 07:36:36 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5E2CD16A41C for ; Sun, 3 Jul 2005 07:36:36 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from juhasaarinen@gmail.com) Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.202]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1A5D143D45 for ; Sun, 3 Jul 2005 07:36:35 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from juhasaarinen@gmail.com) Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id i4so553350wra for ; Sun, 03 Jul 2005 00:36:35 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; b=b0TMqRj7UY51UEQkVr6sE7B3gF20LYfltkIH94EMeN+joDQEux+mLu+BRAfIh3Tsbl9wUPG7Vo8Ghj4bSwnZR09P6cnQOSIVHFofI7d6ZuJ5Lv5c8g58J3AlInGi9e6wqJulX7v6g+flx+L6LyYmj638KchOAXKIw4mCPvnN+EY= Received: by 10.54.53.15 with SMTP id b15mr2742192wra; Sun, 03 Jul 2005 00:36:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.4.67 with HTTP; Sun, 3 Jul 2005 00:36:35 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Sun, 3 Jul 2005 19:36:35 +1200 From: Juha Saarinen To: FreeBSD questions Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline Subject: How to troubleshoot slow network performance with Realtek 8169s? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Juha Saarinen List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 03 Jul 2005 07:36:36 -0000 I have a 3.06GHz Intel P4 server running 5.4-RELEASE-p3, with the following two NICs: fxp0: port 0xdf00-0xdf3f mem = 0xfea fc000-0xfeafcfff irq 20 at device 8.0 on pci2 miibus0: on fxp0 inphy0: on miibus0 inphy0: 10baseT, 10baseT-FDX, 100baseTX, 100baseTX-FDX, auto fxp0: Ethernet address: 00:d0:b7:c3:0f:20 re0: port 0xd800-0xd8ff mem 0x= feaff 800-0xfeaff8ff irq 22 at device 10.0 on pci2 miibus1: on re0 rgephy0: on miibus1 rgephy0: 10baseT, 10baseT-FDX, 100baseTX, 100baseTX-FDX, 1000baseTX, 1000b= aseTX -FDX, auto re0: Ethernet address: 00:08:a1:3c:72:bb The Intel NIC is built into the motherboard, and the Realtek 8169s sits in a 32-bit PCI slot. Performance for the Realtek adapter is slow though: around 25Mbit/s when serving clients with Fast Ethernet NICs, and around 250Mbit/s for Gigabit Ethernet ones. Having tried out the card in Windows boxes and seen the expected 600Mbit/s, I expected something similar with FreeBSD 5.4. The odd thing is that you get approx. a quarter of the link speed with both 100TX and 1000TX but not more under FreeBSD 5.4. The environment a switched network with known good cabling, standard size Ethernet frames, media autoselect and a kernel with DEVICE_POLLING and HZ=3D2000 which re(4) supports according to the polling(4) man page. #ifconfig re0 re0: flags=3D8843 mtu 1500 options=3D58 media: Ethernet autoselect (1000baseTX ) status: active Enabling/disabling polling makes no real difference, apart from taking the edge of performance somewhat. #sysctl -a | grep polling kern.polling.idlepoll_sleeping: 1 kern.polling.stalled: 0 kern.polling.suspect: 367 kern.polling.phase: 0 kern.polling.enable: 1 kern.polling.handlers: 1 kern.polling.residual_burst: 0 kern.polling.pending_polls: 0 kern.polling.lost_polls: 782 kern.polling.short_ticks: 731 kern.polling.reg_frac: 20 kern.polling.user_frac: 50 kern.polling.poll_in_trap: 0 kern.polling.idle_poll: 0 kern.polling.burst_max: 150 kern.polling.each_burst: 5 kern.polling.burst: 110 The re(4) man page doesn't have any troubleshooting hints and Googling didn't turn up anything useful. What else could I look for? --=20 Juha From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jul 3 09:04:42 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3537D16A41C for ; Sun, 3 Jul 2005 09:04:42 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) Received: from mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com (mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [65.75.192.90]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D328743D4C for ; Sun, 3 Jul 2005 09:04:41 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) Received: from tedwin2k (nat-rtr.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [65.75.197.130]) by mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com (8.11.1/8.11.1) with SMTP id j6395ob85061; Sun, 3 Jul 2005 02:05:51 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) From: "Ted Mittelstaedt" To: "Juha Saarinen" , "FreeBSD questions" Date: Sun, 3 Jul 2005 02:04:38 -0700 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.6604 (9.0.2911.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1478 In-Reply-To: Importance: Normal Cc: Subject: RE: How to troubleshoot slow network performance with Realtek 8169s? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 03 Jul 2005 09:04:42 -0000 The Realtek is a cheap adapter. You can try hard-coding the media type to see what happens, but the fact remains this is nowhere near as good a card as the 82801B. As a result of this there hasn't been that much attention to driver optimizations, you can review the work here: http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/cvsweb.cgi/src/sys/dev/re/if_re.c If playing around with the media type doesen't fix it you can try a send-pr but your best off just pulling the card and replacing it with another Intel, then mailing the card to one of the driver developers. Maybe in 6 months to a year you might see a faster driver in FreeBSD - or maybe not. Ted >-----Original Message----- >From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org >[mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]On Behalf Of Juha Saarinen >Sent: Sunday, July 03, 2005 12:37 AM >To: FreeBSD questions >Subject: How to troubleshoot slow network performance with Realtek >8169s? > > >I have a 3.06GHz Intel P4 server running 5.4-RELEASE-p3, with the >following two NICs: > >fxp0: port >0xdf00-0xdf3f mem 0xfea >fc000-0xfeafcfff irq 20 at device 8.0 on pci2 >miibus0: on fxp0 >inphy0: on miibus0 >inphy0: 10baseT, 10baseT-FDX, 100baseTX, 100baseTX-FDX, auto >fxp0: Ethernet address: 00:d0:b7:c3:0f:20 >re0: port >0xd800-0xd8ff mem 0xfeaff >800-0xfeaff8ff irq 22 at device 10.0 on pci2 >miibus1: on re0 >rgephy0: on miibus1 >rgephy0: 10baseT, 10baseT-FDX, 100baseTX, 100baseTX-FDX, >1000baseTX, 1000baseTX >-FDX, auto >re0: Ethernet address: 00:08:a1:3c:72:bb > >The Intel NIC is built into the motherboard, and the Realtek 8169s >sits in a 32-bit PCI slot. > >Performance for the Realtek adapter is slow though: around 25Mbit/s >when serving clients with Fast Ethernet NICs, and around 250Mbit/s for >Gigabit Ethernet ones. > >Having tried out the card in Windows boxes and seen the expected >600Mbit/s, I expected something similar with FreeBSD 5.4. The odd >thing is that you get approx. a quarter of the link speed with both >100TX and 1000TX but not more under FreeBSD 5.4. > >The environment a switched network with known good cabling, standard >size Ethernet frames, media autoselect and a kernel with >DEVICE_POLLING and HZ=2000 which re(4) supports according to the >polling(4) man page. > >#ifconfig re0 >re0: flags=8843 mtu 1500 > options=58 > > media: Ethernet autoselect (1000baseTX ) > status: active > >Enabling/disabling polling makes no real difference, apart from taking >the edge of performance somewhat. > >#sysctl -a | grep polling >kern.polling.idlepoll_sleeping: 1 >kern.polling.stalled: 0 >kern.polling.suspect: 367 >kern.polling.phase: 0 >kern.polling.enable: 1 >kern.polling.handlers: 1 >kern.polling.residual_burst: 0 >kern.polling.pending_polls: 0 >kern.polling.lost_polls: 782 >kern.polling.short_ticks: 731 >kern.polling.reg_frac: 20 >kern.polling.user_frac: 50 >kern.polling.poll_in_trap: 0 >kern.polling.idle_poll: 0 >kern.polling.burst_max: 150 >kern.polling.each_burst: 5 >kern.polling.burst: 110 > >The re(4) man page doesn't have any troubleshooting hints and Googling >didn't turn up anything useful. > >What else could I look for? > >-- > >Juha >_______________________________________________ >freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list >http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions >To unsubscribe, send any mail to >"freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jul 3 09:49:21 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 52A8416A41C for ; Sun, 3 Jul 2005 09:49:21 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from lacerates@mdparty.com) Received: from ip3e8390c3.speed.planet.nl (ip3e8390c3.speed.planet.nl [62.131.144.195]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id C2B0A43D55 for ; Sun, 3 Jul 2005 09:49:20 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from lacerates@mdparty.com) Received: from [219.91.182.39] (port=4032 helo=[Mongolian]) by ip3e8390c3.speed.planet.nl with esmtp id 1614765490plainer53963 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sun, 3 Jul 2005 11:49:19 +0200 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v728) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <110815127903.1321497693@ip3e8390c3.speed.planet.nl> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: Sidney Date: Sun, 3 Jul 2005 11:49:18 +0200 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.728) Subject: You best friends and family deserve the BEST internet photo album! 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From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jul 3 10:10:57 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 321B216A41F for ; Sun, 3 Jul 2005 10:10:57 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from tobiastom@gmail.com) Received: from nproxy.gmail.com (nproxy.gmail.com [64.233.182.205]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AA85F43D53 for ; Sun, 3 Jul 2005 10:10:56 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from tobiastom@gmail.com) Received: by nproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id g2so116703nfe for ; Sun, 03 Jul 2005 03:10:54 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; b=EHlsxDNBvD+Giokr5dg5N7aJEeka1PR9tO1ywAavjmegR+9McZeWTCU18qD0WFV0oEc7R3BZ6L8w0o4FyGhP86IKsZOa7FJ5UWng1C6c6vYD9m89I7T0P675M9H2MZdaJVaqEPjdYnfsRaXHGZNzlZGo14yq9cfMmn3uYtp5Hco= Received: by 10.48.240.16 with SMTP id n16mr80531nfh; Sun, 03 Jul 2005 03:10:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.48.244.6 with HTTP; Sun, 3 Jul 2005 03:10:54 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Sun, 3 Jul 2005 12:10:54 +0200 From: Tobias Tom To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline Subject: FreeBSD 5.4 ndis support X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Tobias Tom List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 03 Jul 2005 10:10:57 -0000 Hello everyone, I'm using FreeBSD for some years now. I've read the german Mailinglist for nearly the same time. But I've got a Problem which no one can reproduce, or no one know any solution. I want to use my Level One wnc 0301 WLAN PCI Card in my FreeBSD box with acts as a Router in my small Home Network. I've found no drivers or buildin support for that Card. Google, and the Manufactor told me that it is using the raltech rt2500 chip. I found a page where someone builds a driver for FreeBSD CURRENT, but it is not portable for the 5.x branch. Someone told me that I could use the ndis Feature which occured in FreeBSD 5.3. I'm not sure how happy I am with Windows Drivers on my FreeBSD Box, but for now i don't see any alternative. So I tried to get ndis Support up like it is described inside the Manual, and inside the first commit Message of the Files. Building seems to work really fine. I've created the ndis_driver_data.h from my driver INF and Driver SYS. Ran make && make install and everything was finished without any error. Then I tried to load the ndis support with "kldload ndis". It results into the following Error Message: "kldload: can't load ndis: No such file or directory" So I looked it the file is really not existing. But it exists, ls output is: "-rwxr-xr-x 1 root wheel 91686 Jul 3 15:37 /usr/src/sys/modules/ndis/ndis.ko" So I looked into dmesg and saw the following Error: link_elf: symbol VOP_GETATTR_APV undefined KLD if_ndis.ko: depends on ndisapi - not available After I could not get something usefull out for me (others might be more successfull ;o) I looked again into the man page of ndis. Under Synopsis the following lines are written down: options NDISAPI device ndis device wlan So I though when i cannot build ndis as module, or maybe the ndisapi come directly from the kernel, i could build my custom kernel with these options. It stoped with these Lines: cc -c -O -pipe -Wall -Wredundant-decls -Wnested-externs -Wstrict-prototypes -Wmissing-prototypes -Wpointer-arith -Winline -Wcast-qual -fformat-extensions -std=3Dc99 -nostdinc -I- -I. -I/usr/src/sys -I/usr/src/sys/contrib/dev/acpica -I/usr/src/sys/contrib/altq -I/usr/src/sys/contrib/ipfilter -I/usr/src/sys/contrib/pf -I/usr/src/sys/contrib/dev/ath -I/usr/src/sys/contrib/dev/ath/freebsd -I/usr/src/sys/contrib/ngatm -I/usr/src/sys/dev/twa -D_KERNEL -include opt_global.h -fno-common -finline-limit=3D8000 --param inline-unit-growth=3D100 --param large-function-growth=3D1000 -mno-align-long-strings -mpreferred-stack-boundary=3D2 -mno-mmx -mno-3dnow -mno-sse -mno-sse2 -ffreestanding -Werror /usr/src/sys/compat/ndis/subr_ntoskrnl.c /usr/src/sys/compat/ndis/subr_ntoskrnl.c: In function `KeRemoveQueueDpc': /usr/src/sys/compat/ndis/subr_ntoskrnl.c:3115: warning: dereferencing `void *' pointer /usr/src/sys/compat/ndis/subr_ntoskrnl.c:3115: error: request for member `mtx_lock' in something not a structure or union /usr/src/sys/compat/ndis/subr_ntoskrnl.c:3115: warning: dereferencing `void *' pointer /usr/src/sys/compat/ndis/subr_ntoskrnl.c:3115: error: request for member `mtx_recurse' in something not a structure or union /usr/src/sys/compat/ndis/subr_ntoskrnl.c:3115: warning: dereferencing `void *' pointer /usr/src/sys/compat/ndis/subr_ntoskrnl.c:3115: error: request for member `mtx_lock' in something not a structure or union /usr/src/sys/compat/ndis/subr_ntoskrnl.c:3117: warning: dereferencing `void *' pointer /usr/src/sys/compat/ndis/subr_ntoskrnl.c:3117: error: request for member `mtx_recurse' in something not a structure or union /usr/src/sys/compat/ndis/subr_ntoskrnl.c:3117: warning: dereferencing `void *' pointer /usr/src/sys/compat/ndis/subr_ntoskrnl.c:3117: error: request for member `mtx_recurse' in something not a structure or union /usr/src/sys/compat/ndis/subr_ntoskrnl.c:3117: warning: dereferencing `void *' pointer /usr/src/sys/compat/ndis/subr_ntoskrnl.c:3117: error: request for member `mtx_lock' in something not a structure or union /usr/src/sys/compat/ndis/subr_ntoskrnl.c:3123: warning: dereferencing `void *' pointer /usr/src/sys/compat/ndis/subr_ntoskrnl.c:3123: error: request for member `mtx_recurse' in something not a structure or union /usr/src/sys/compat/ndis/subr_ntoskrnl.c:3123: warning: dereferencing `void *' pointer /usr/src/sys/compat/ndis/subr_ntoskrnl.c:3123: error: request for member `mtx_recurse' in something not a structure or union /usr/src/sys/compat/ndis/subr_ntoskrnl.c:3123: warning: dereferencing `void *' pointer /usr/src/sys/compat/ndis/subr_ntoskrnl.c:3123: error: request for member `mtx_lock' in something not a structure or union *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GATE. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/src. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/src. Building my custom Kernel without the three Lines worked wonderfull. So I have really no Idea what I can do next. Maybe here's someone how knows any step i missed, or which Problem can couse the Error. It is not very Importent for me it the ndis support runs in he kernel or as module... main issue is to get this damm card to work ;o) Maybe this might be usefull, too. Just did a cvsup for about 10 Minutes and got the same error. The only part which I added to my custom kernel config is the IPFW Part. Just some short words about FreeBSD Current. I've booted with the june snapshot and the card was detechted fine. Please don't let my stay in the rain with this Problem. ;o) Regards Tobias From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jul 3 10:42:29 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8FD6B16A41C for ; Sun, 3 Jul 2005 10:42:29 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from siro200@yahoo.com) Received: from web50902.mail.yahoo.com (web50902.mail.yahoo.com [206.190.38.122]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 33E5B43D45 for ; Sun, 3 Jul 2005 10:42:28 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from siro200@yahoo.com) Received: (qmail 16745 invoked by uid 60001); 3 Jul 2005 10:42:28 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=P27AXyWi79+LZ9tVFBClocb8HgKifdFzaZXpXqVEOH853lmH0zaqqzTyMA4lm48BuAz9KNmhWNYN+tl/ioBuXOLsBlcpAZAl8Yu4yqsndYf4msf5h2jPymrCFDC+heInyzX+TRI1nz9QEoZ8gzOvmUebXhwm7WZcazhJ4DyoQE8= ; Message-ID: <20050703104228.16743.qmail@web50902.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [80.92.97.167] by web50902.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sun, 03 Jul 2005 03:42:28 PDT Date: Sun, 3 Jul 2005 03:42:28 -0700 (PDT) From: Olga Zenkova To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Subject: Re: integrated SATA RAID controller on Intel server board SE7520bd2 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 03 Jul 2005 10:42:29 -0000 Thanks, Gayn! 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Sign up for Fantasy Football http://football.fantasysports.yahoo.com From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jul 3 10:55:54 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 00E2016A41C for ; Sun, 3 Jul 2005 10:55:54 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from juhasaarinen@gmail.com) Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.194]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B8B5043D4C for ; Sun, 3 Jul 2005 10:55:53 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from juhasaarinen@gmail.com) Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 36so568671wra for ; Sun, 03 Jul 2005 03:55:53 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=PymLJeFuw46Ofgly19dkk7Dx4Zmt1uwsqIMHb0QubIVm7bpSLeZDc6GE05ptGDgkzjH56wy0ttAw6wgdBIE0ea9ZBeqeQScfFtyi6x0b9DmhOE9EtCif8tNxrH/zM+1lKuitpvUsqhZ3yiDxZfFLqP8Tia59u0HevTNQTIlgobs= Received: by 10.54.45.1 with SMTP id s1mr1055966wrs; Sun, 03 Jul 2005 03:55:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.4.67 with HTTP; Sun, 3 Jul 2005 03:55:52 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Sun, 3 Jul 2005 22:55:52 +1200 From: Juha Saarinen To: FreeBSD questions In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline References: Subject: Re: How to troubleshoot slow network performance with Realtek 8169s? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Juha Saarinen List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 03 Jul 2005 10:55:54 -0000 Hmm... replying to myself here, but using iperf I see 420Mbit/s+ from FreeBSD to Windows with TCP. Vice versa, 640mbit/s approx. Not so with file transfers across ftp, http, and smb though. Which is odd.= =20 --=20 Juha From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jul 3 11:09:34 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2194016A41C for ; Sun, 3 Jul 2005 11:09:34 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from juhasaarinen@gmail.com) Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.200]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D1E3A43D45 for ; Sun, 3 Jul 2005 11:09:33 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from juhasaarinen@gmail.com) Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id i4so568969wra for ; Sun, 03 Jul 2005 04:09:33 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=M2NhIapoNCv8XJ416SzA25F+Mly7TA5X90XJoKTLZtf7rkko/vzHO2PngNxxdAy/6EMcKYglZ1clIyeBC+f1mNLhbdyUJsrh+39BLX7Jfgu6IP5I3IAwuqOCfQA7uqpKAde6lPqiuEob+Cn2tP/YpqvBDidJUDsUuj86zWiE5y4= Received: by 10.54.27.8 with SMTP id a8mr2844077wra; Sun, 03 Jul 2005 04:02:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.4.67 with HTTP; Sun, 3 Jul 2005 04:02:37 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Sun, 3 Jul 2005 23:02:38 +1200 From: Juha Saarinen To: Ted Mittelstaedt In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline References: Cc: FreeBSD questions Subject: Re: How to troubleshoot slow network performance with Realtek 8169s? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Juha Saarinen List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 03 Jul 2005 11:09:34 -0000 On 7/3/05, Ted Mittelstaedt wrote: >=20 > The Realtek is a cheap adapter. You can try hard-coding the > media type to see what happens, but the fact remains this is > nowhere near as good a card as the 82801B. As a result of this > there hasn't been that much attention to driver optimizations, > you can review the work here: >=20 > http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/cvsweb.cgi/src/sys/dev/re/if_re.c >=20 > If playing around with the media type doesen't fix it you can > try a send-pr but your best off just pulling the card and > replacing it with another Intel, then mailing the card to one > of the driver developers. Maybe in 6 months to a year you > might see a faster driver in FreeBSD - or maybe not. Yeah, I know the 8169s isn't the flashest card in the universe and I don't mind donating a card or two to the developers, but with further testing -- assuming iperf isn't lying -- it seems the driver is OK and there's something happening further up the chain that I don't understand yet. What's weird is that with both 100 and 1000Mbit/s connections, the max speed is a quarter of the link speed when using applications such as ftp for transferring files. With iperf, I see 92Mbit/s on 100Mbit/s and 400-640Mbit/s on 1000mbit/s connections depending on the direction. --=20 Juha From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jul 3 12:28:41 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E5BCD16A41C for ; Sun, 3 Jul 2005 12:28:41 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from iampure@gmail.com) Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.193]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A4D5443D45 for ; Sun, 3 Jul 2005 12:28:41 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from iampure@gmail.com) Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id i21so551441wra for ; Sun, 03 Jul 2005 05:28:41 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=FyJ2Kf+bql1awNf7fg6Hsm/+mVcBBTBoEcYThPEC1K1edimAad7bopPUXKlyt4BThyf5+jrsptvLjVC2D/uBens6gdokumcsb4+l/Y5T/zBKsjL++MRH3CXxdgcmbBbbz4vY+Vflp7BNtmRrEuvZK2m6gtVDzLtkMFIUuqsxU3I= Received: by 10.54.26.19 with SMTP id 19mr2947553wrz; Sun, 03 Jul 2005 05:28:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.86.11 with HTTP; Sun, 3 Jul 2005 05:28:41 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <87d4647e0507030528119f695@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sun, 3 Jul 2005 14:28:41 +0200 From: Ron To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline References: <20050701214521.U72289@malcolm.berkeley.edu> Subject: Re: FreeBSD locks up when X-windows running (LONG) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Ron List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 03 Jul 2005 12:28:42 -0000 On 7/3/05, Ted Mittelstaedt wrote: >=20 > No, I am saying your going to have to rebuild with the > June drivers and _see_if_it_works_. >=20 > If that locks up, well then as Nvidia wrote those drivers, > you can call them on their support line. Please report > back here and let us know how this works out - a lot of > people are avoiding purchasing that chipset or boards with > that chipset because Nvidia don't supply programming info, > and nobody really knows how well Nvidia is going to support > us. Is there any 3d hardware company that does supply enough programming info? I looked a year ago, but I haven't seen any *product* yet, although there are initiatives. Regards, Ron From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jul 2 23:35:48 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D101B16A41C for ; Sat, 2 Jul 2005 23:35:48 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from sparxz@excite.com) Received: from excite.com (nn1.excitenetwork.com [207.159.120.55]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 90D7443D48 for ; Sat, 2 Jul 2005 23:35:48 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from sparxz@excite.com) Received: by xprdmailfe4.nwk.excite.com (Postfix, from userid 110) id 0116B3CDB; Sat, 2 Jul 2005 19:35:48 -0400 (EDT) To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Received: from [194.46.75.103] by xprdmailfe4.nwk.excite.com via HTTP; Sat, 02 Jul 2005 19:35:47 EST X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: ID = 50aeb8b6dca36365d673634e3cd42e88 From: "sparxz@excite.com" MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: sparxz@excite.com X-Mailer: PHP Message-Id: <20050702233548.0116B3CDB@xprdmailfe4.nwk.excite.com> Date: Sat, 2 Jul 2005 19:35:48 -0400 (EDT) X-Mailman-Approved-At: Sun, 03 Jul 2005 13:08:10 +0000 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: Subject: Linux move to FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: sparxz@excite.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 02 Jul 2005 23:35:48 -0000 Hi I am a user of SUSE Linux, and I was thinking of trying out BSD. After reading as much information as I could about the three variants of BSD vs. Linux. On technical merit, I was very impressed. FreeBSD looks like a good stating place for me, but one think about FreeBSD makes me uncomfortable is the symbol/emblem that the OS uses. That is a "devil" ! I would like to know if possible how this came about, and what thinking was behind it. From experience, I consider symbols to be very significant, Historically, psychologically and even spiritually. Best regards Mark PS. Please can u e-mail me on this e-mail sparxz@excite.com when an answer becomes available. _______________________________________________ Join Excite! - http://www.excite.com The most personalized portal on the Web! From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jul 3 01:19:24 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 910A516A41F for ; Sun, 3 Jul 2005 01:19:24 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from xfb52@dial.pipex.com) Received: from smtp-out3.blueyonder.co.uk (smtp-out3.blueyonder.co.uk [195.188.213.6]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2CF1D43D1D for ; Sun, 3 Jul 2005 01:19:21 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from xfb52@dial.pipex.com) Received: from [82.41.37.55] ([82.41.37.55]) by smtp-out3.blueyonder.co.uk with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.6713); Sun, 3 Jul 2005 02:20:02 +0100 Message-ID: <42C73D17.3080208@dial.pipex.com> Date: Sun, 03 Jul 2005 02:19:19 +0100 From: Alex Zbyslaw User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-GB; rv:1.7.8) Gecko/20050530 X-Accept-Language: en, en-us, pl MIME-Version: 1.0 To: markzero References: <20050630001004.GA60781@logik.ath.cx> <42C3BB88.60609@dial.pipex.com> In-Reply-To: <42C3BB88.60609@dial.pipex.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-OriginalArrivalTime: 03 Jul 2005 01:20:02.0827 (UTC) FILETIME=[566FFDB0:01C57F6D] X-Mailman-Approved-At: Sun, 03 Jul 2005 13:08:10 +0000 Cc: iqgrande@gmail.com, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: NVIDIA TNT2 woes X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 03 Jul 2005 01:19:25 -0000 markzero wrote: > (WW) The NVIDIA RIVA TNT2 Model 64/Model 64 Pro GPU installed in > (WW) this system is supported through the NVIDIA Legacy > (WW) drivers. Please visit > (WW) http://www.nvidia.com/object/unix.html for more > (WW) information. The 1.0-7667 NVIDIA driver will ignore this > (WW) GPU. Continuing probe... (EE) No devices detected. > > The NVIDIA Legacy drivers magically fail to exist on the NVIDIA > site and there appears no be no port for them either. > I was exploring the latest nvidia driver and came across this page. http://www.nvidia.com/object/freebsd_archive.html Isn't 7174 or 6113 the legacy driver you are after? --Alex From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jul 3 13:39:11 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 25A4E16A41C for ; Sun, 3 Jul 2005 13:39:11 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from fbsd_user@a1poweruser.com) Received: from mta9.adelphia.net (mta9.adelphia.net [68.168.78.199]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D3EA343D46 for ; Sun, 3 Jul 2005 13:39:10 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from fbsd_user@a1poweruser.com) Received: from barbish ([69.172.31.81]) by mta9.adelphia.net (InterMail vM.6.01.04.01 201-2131-118-101-20041129) with SMTP id <20050703133909.ISPY29002.mta9.adelphia.net@barbish> for ; Sun, 3 Jul 2005 09:39:09 -0400 From: "fbsd_user" To: "freebsd-questions@FreeBSD. ORG" Date: Sun, 3 Jul 2005 09:39:04 -0400 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.6604 (9.0.2911.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1409 Importance: Normal Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: Subject: help with sh script X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: fbsd_user@a1poweruser.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 03 Jul 2005 13:39:11 -0000 What is the sh coding to strip the periods from a IP address?? raw_ip='10.0.10.5' this is starting num_ip='100105' and this is what I need to convert to. thanks in advance From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jul 3 13:46:49 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BAEF116A41C for ; Sun, 3 Jul 2005 13:46:49 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from svein-freebsd-questions@theloosingend.net) Received: from fri.itea.ntnu.no (fri.itea.ntnu.no [129.241.7.60]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 72F4643D48 for ; Sun, 3 Jul 2005 13:46:49 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from svein-freebsd-questions@theloosingend.net) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by fri.itea.ntnu.no (Postfix) with ESMTP id B08537F8E for ; Sun, 3 Jul 2005 15:46:47 +0200 (CEST) Received: from maren.thelosingend.net (maren.math.ntnu.no [129.241.211.48]) by fri.itea.ntnu.no (Postfix) with SMTP for ; Sun, 3 Jul 2005 15:46:47 +0200 (CEST) Received: (qmail 24644 invoked by uid 1001); 3 Jul 2005 15:46:46 +0200 Received: from localhost (sendmail-bs@127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 3 Jul 2005 15:46:46 +0200 Date: Sun, 3 Jul 2005 15:46:46 +0200 (CEST) From: Svein Halvor Halvorsen X-X-Sender: sveinhal@maren.thelosingend.net To: questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20050703154323.H24613@maren.thelosingend.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Content-Scanned: with sophos and spamassassin at mailgw.ntnu.no. Cc: Subject: Year-old messages X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: questions@freebsd.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 03 Jul 2005 13:46:49 -0000 How come I get all these year-old messages coming in today? I got a couple of dozen of these in both questions@, current@ and stable@. Here's an exerpt from the headers of one such message What's mu.org got to do with this? --------- Received: from elvis.mu.org (elvis.mu.org [192.203.228.196]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0ED3443E37; Sun, 3 Jul 2005 00:08:49 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ps@mu.org) Received: by elvis.mu.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 823A25DCAC; Sat, 2 Jul 2005 17:07:57 -0700 (PDT) X-Original-To: ps@mu.org Delivered-To: ps@mu.org Received: from mx2.freebsd.org (mx2.freebsd.org [216.136.204.119]) by elvis.mu.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 03A7E5C913 for ; Thu, 23 Dec 2004 08:27:48 -0800 (PST) Received: from hub.freebsd.org (hub.freebsd.org [216.136.204.18]) by mx2.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EAAEC56FEC; Thu, 23 Dec 2004 16:27:06 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-arch@freebsd.org) From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jul 3 14:01:30 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B1FEF16A41C for ; Sun, 3 Jul 2005 14:01:30 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from nbco@screaming.net) Received: from heineken.flexi-surf.co.uk (heineken.flexi-surf.co.uk [62.41.128.20]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 21CB143D48 for ; Sun, 3 Jul 2005 14:01:29 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from nbco@screaming.net) Received: from [10.250.250.4] ([62.55.107.17]) by heineken.flexi-surf.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id j63AfAH10599; Sun, 3 Jul 2005 11:41:10 +0100 From: nbco To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, sparxz@excite.com Date: Sun, 3 Jul 2005 15:01:01 +0100 User-Agent: KMail/1.8.1 References: <20050702233548.0116B3CDB@xprdmailfe4.nwk.excite.com> In-Reply-To: <20050702233548.0116B3CDB@xprdmailfe4.nwk.excite.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200507031501.02370.nbco@screaming.net> Cc: Subject: Re: Linux move to FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: nbco@screaming.net List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 03 Jul 2005 14:01:30 -0000 On Sunday 03 July 2005 00:35, sparxz@excite.com wrote: > Hi > I would like to know if possible how this came about, > and what thinking was behind it. From experience, I consider > symbols to be very significant, Historically, psychologically > and even spiritually. > > Best regards > > Mark Hi there Mark, Individuals who come onto this list and ask questions which have repeatedly been answered, risk being called trolls. The briefest of searches would have explained the answer to your question.: http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/faq/misc.html#DAEMON-NAME Please don't initiate a discussion about this as this thread demonstrates, the issue has been discussed to death: http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-questions/2005-February/076061.html Many thanks .nbco From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jul 3 14:03:11 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 33A2B16A41C for ; Sun, 3 Jul 2005 14:03:11 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from svein-freebsd-questions@theloosingend.net) Received: from fri.itea.ntnu.no (fri.itea.ntnu.no [129.241.7.60]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DBCAE43D49 for ; Sun, 3 Jul 2005 14:03:10 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from svein-freebsd-questions@theloosingend.net) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by fri.itea.ntnu.no (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0CB547FC3 for ; Sun, 3 Jul 2005 16:03:10 +0200 (CEST) Received: from maren.thelosingend.net (maren.math.ntnu.no [129.241.211.48]) by fri.itea.ntnu.no (Postfix) with SMTP for ; Sun, 3 Jul 2005 16:03:09 +0200 (CEST) Received: (qmail 24796 invoked by uid 1001); 3 Jul 2005 16:03:09 +0200 Received: from localhost (sendmail-bs@127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 3 Jul 2005 16:03:09 +0200 Date: Sun, 3 Jul 2005 16:03:09 +0200 (CEST) From: Svein Halvor Halvorsen X-X-Sender: sveinhal@maren.thelosingend.net To: "sparxz@excite.com" In-Reply-To: <20050702233548.0116B3CDB@xprdmailfe4.nwk.excite.com> Message-ID: <20050703154938.C24613@maren.thelosingend.net> References: <20050702233548.0116B3CDB@xprdmailfe4.nwk.excite.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Content-Scanned: with sophos and spamassassin at mailgw.ntnu.no. Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Linux move to FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: questions@freebsd.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 03 Jul 2005 14:03:11 -0000 * sparxz@excite.com [2005-07-02 19:35 -0400] > FreeBSD looks like a good stating place for me, but one think about > FreeBSD makes me uncomfortable is the symbol/emblem that the OS uses. > That is a "devil" ! This has been covered many times before, and you could search the archives for more in-depth answers than I'll give here. The "devil" is supposed to be a daemon (not to be confused with the more modern term "demon"), a pun on on the fact that most server-programs in the unix world are called daemons. This is based on an old greek word which meant something close to "servant". Somewhere in history this came to mean "evil servant" or "devil" in some religions. The FreeBSD use of the mascot is non-religious, however, and people generally doesn't think much about it. It is no more "evil" than the command "chmod 666 file" is. However, there has been some concern about it, and from time to time someone are asking this question. Sometimes people state that they will not use FreeBSD unless the mascot is dropped. Espescially the use of the mascot in the boot-up screen has caused some controvercy. There is an ongoing contest for a new FreeBSD logo, but alot of people in the FreeBSD community seem to like the little mascot, and are sceptical about a new logo. The contest submissions are not publically available, so I have no idea whether this attempt to replace the daemon will be successful. And even if FreeBSD would get a new logo, I'm sure alot of people would still use him as a mascot. The creature's name is "Beastie" (BSD) The image is copyrighted Marshall Kirk McKusick. Regards, SVein Halvor From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jul 3 14:04:42 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 86ABB16A41C for ; Sun, 3 Jul 2005 14:04:42 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from nb_root@videotron.ca) Received: from relais.videotron.ca (relais.videotron.ca [24.201.245.36]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5E7CE43D4C for ; Sun, 3 Jul 2005 14:04:42 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from nb_root@videotron.ca) Received: from clk01a ([66.130.198.54]) by VL-MO-MR007.ip.videotron.ca (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.21 (built Sep 8 2003)) with ESMTP id <0IJ200MFD1RT1N@VL-MO-MR007.ip.videotron.ca> for questions@freebsd.org; Sun, 03 Jul 2005 10:04:41 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sun, 03 Jul 2005 10:04:31 -0400 From: Nicolas Blais In-reply-to: <20050703154323.H24613@maren.thelosingend.net> To: questions@freebsd.org Message-id: <200507031004.40996.nb_root@videotron.ca> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary=nextPart1403929.V9zHp9oWPV Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit User-Agent: KMail/1.8.1 References: <20050703154323.H24613@maren.thelosingend.net> Cc: Subject: Re: Year-old messages X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 03 Jul 2005 14:04:42 -0000 --nextPart1403929.V9zHp9oWPV Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline On July 3, 2005 09:46 am, Svein Halvor Halvorsen wrote: > How come I get all these year-old messages coming in today? > I got a couple of dozen of these in both questions@, current@ and stable@. > > Here's an exerpt from the headers of one such message > What's mu.org got to do with this? > We all (I presume) got those 2004/2005 messages. =2D-=20 =46reeBSD 6.0-CURRENT #0: Thu Jun 30 23:29:59 EDT 2005 =20 root@clk01a:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/CLK01A=20 PGP? : http://66.130.198.54:8081/security/nb_root.asc --nextPart1403929.V9zHp9oWPV Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.1 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQBCx/B4z38ton5LGeIRAqUFAJwPtJCSg1dnPkTuQBXPuXLfeuBhRgCeIKUW hRdDFNYAM/nHt2dlhlPRJ9I= =PByf -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --nextPart1403929.V9zHp9oWPV-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jul 3 14:11:50 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C809816A41C for ; Sun, 3 Jul 2005 14:11:50 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from wizlayer@gmail.com) Received: from engraver.valleygate.net (12-215-216-27.client.mchsi.com [12.215.216.27]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4AC3043D46 for ; Sun, 3 Jul 2005 14:11:49 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from wizlayer@gmail.com) Received: from wizard.valleygate.net (wizard.valleygate.net [10.51.10.3]) by engraver.valleygate.net (8.13.3/8.13.3) with ESMTP id j63EBjRf012488; Sun, 3 Jul 2005 10:11:45 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from wizlayer@gmail.com) From: wizlayer To: sparxz@excite.com, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Sun, 3 Jul 2005 10:11:42 -0400 User-Agent: KMail/1.8 References: <20050702233548.0116B3CDB@xprdmailfe4.nwk.excite.com> In-Reply-To: <20050702233548.0116B3CDB@xprdmailfe4.nwk.excite.com> X-Face: "e_)EG1Ia?&ecqhxa3_`G|cr35_87a'T"AlQ5IdTBhZiRj}wk9EdPBnW,=?iso-8859-1?q?oSeBhvgAPmZZU=24=0A?= W'Edks*9`,UQ3y\zk%deq; (N8p5>>Pdje|W%i2b7_C{KOi"JBmNTeItUGg\FX9`b#U4P X-Copyright: Copyright 2005, Michael Hauber, All rights reserved. X-Notice: Duplication, modification, and/or redistribution are prohibited without proper consent from the author. MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200507031011.44005.wizlayer@gmail.com> Cc: Subject: Re: Linux move to FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: wizlayer@gmail.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 03 Jul 2005 14:11:50 -0000 On Saturday 02 July 2005 07:35 pm, sparxz@excite.com wrote: > Hi > > I am a user of SUSE Linux, and I was thinking of > trying out BSD. After reading as much information > as I could about the three variants of BSD vs. > Linux. On technical merit, I was very impressed. > > FreeBSD looks like a good stating place for me, > but one think about FreeBSD makes me uncomfortable > is the symbol/emblem that the OS uses. That is a "devil" ! > > I would like to know if possible how this came about, > and what thinking was behind it. From experience, I consider > symbols to be very significant, Historically, psychologically > and even spiritually. > > Best regards > > Mark > > PS. Please can u e-mail me on this e-mail sparxz@excite.com > when an answer becomes available. > > Oh, boy.... Here we go again... No, not the Devil... A daemon. No, not a demon. A Daemon, an invisible being not necessarily good and not necessarily evil, but has the potential of both... In that sense, it is no more evil or good as you or I... Only the potential is there. And naturally, because FreeBSD is such a powerful system, if you use it for evil (which we are all capable of), it would be on us, not the daemon... Heck, not even the "Devil" because the "Devil didn't make you do it..." _You_ did it! :) This is getting old. Maybe FreeBSD should turn membership-only (j/k but thinking of the gasps and grumbles of discontent). Or maybe there should be a required visit at freebsd.com to the following link which explains it all: http://www.freebsd.org/copyright/daemon.html So "unlearned" people will quit asking the same questions over and over on the quetsions list: Hope that "clears your conscience..." :D WizLayer From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jul 3 14:40:26 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6BD1916A41C for ; Sun, 3 Jul 2005 14:40:26 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from FreeBSD@amadeus.demon.nl) Received: from post-22.mail.nl.demon.net (post-22.mail.nl.demon.net [194.159.73.192]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2D9A743D46 for ; Sun, 3 Jul 2005 14:40:25 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from FreeBSD@amadeus.demon.nl) Received: from amadeus.demon.nl ([82.161.18.200]:55610 helo=[10.0.1.1]) by post-22.mail.nl.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Dp5dw-0000x4-BJ; Sun, 03 Jul 2005 14:40:24 +0000 In-Reply-To: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v730) X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-Id: <6BD492A9-2A38-49C8-B0E2-507F1B9964B2@amadeus.demon.nl> From: FreeBSD questions mailing list Date: Sun, 3 Jul 2005 16:40:20 +0200 To: fbsd_user@a1poweruser.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.730) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: "freebsd-questions@FreeBSD. ORG" Subject: Re: help with sh script X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 03 Jul 2005 14:40:26 -0000 On 03 jul 2005, at 15:39, fbsd_user wrote: > What is the sh coding to strip the periods from a IP address?? > > > raw_ip='10.0.10.5' this is starting > num_ip='100105' and this is what I need to convert to. > > > Hi, many ways, here's one: printf '10.0.10.5' | sed 's/\.//g' Arno From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jul 3 14:40:33 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 917CB16A43E for ; Sun, 3 Jul 2005 14:40:33 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from wizlayer@gmail.com) Received: from engraver.valleygate.net (12-215-216-27.client.mchsi.com [12.215.216.27]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 453BA43D45 for ; Sun, 3 Jul 2005 14:40:33 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from wizlayer@gmail.com) Received: from wizard.valleygate.net (wizard.valleygate.net [10.51.10.3]) by engraver.valleygate.net (8.13.3/8.13.3) with ESMTP id j63EeQcp012571; Sun, 3 Jul 2005 10:40:27 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from wizlayer@gmail.com) From: wizlayer To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Sun, 3 Jul 2005 10:40:24 -0400 User-Agent: KMail/1.8 References: <20050702233548.0116B3CDB@xprdmailfe4.nwk.excite.com> <200507031011.44005.wizlayer@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <200507031011.44005.wizlayer@gmail.com> X-Face: "e_)EG1Ia?&ecqhxa3_`G|cr35_87a'T"AlQ5IdTBhZiRj}wk9EdPBnW,=?iso-8859-1?q?oSeBhvgAPmZZU=24=0A?= W'Edks*9`,UQ3y\zk%deq; (N8p5>>Pdje|W%i2b7_C{KOi"JBmNTeItUGg\FX9`b#U4P X-Copyright: Copyright 2005, Michael Hauber, All rights reserved. X-Notice: Duplication, modification, and/or redistribution are prohibited without proper consent from the author. MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200507031040.25552.wizlayer@gmail.com> Cc: sparxz@excite.com Subject: Re: Linux move to FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: wizlayer@gmail.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 03 Jul 2005 14:40:33 -0000 On Sunday 03 July 2005 10:11 am, wizlayer wrote: > And naturally, because FreeBSD is such a powerful system, if > you use it for evil (which we are all capable of), it would be > on us, not the daemon... Heck, not even the "Devil" because > the "Devil didn't make you do it..." _You_ did it! :) > Grammatical error... It should have read, "it would be on you, not the daemon..." Yep... I found my grammar daemon leaning to the darkside so I had to shut 'er down and edit some stuff out... :D Just didn't catch that one... WizLayer From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jul 3 15:02:08 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E076016A41C for ; Sun, 3 Jul 2005 15:02:08 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ecr959@yahoo.com) Received: from web30015.mail.mud.yahoo.com (web30015.mail.mud.yahoo.com [68.142.201.218]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 8529343D48 for ; Sun, 3 Jul 2005 15:02:08 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ecr959@yahoo.com) Received: (qmail 4955 invoked by uid 60001); 3 Jul 2005 15:02:07 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=FUN3wKMDxEUPXnqBr+x/Bcu0X9gWPjBd4U2fwRonrYO98GF2SWXdfIgR4DqEaWr9JwZZwiFTJCA8S5g2/zArm7bF4FoUNnQNQbLkX1sPD/HtUNOjlfDP7VKipcFRqDuebGChAq4Vjgp9Pj9L5fV/aJ/mnHx2zD37UFc0392VnVQ= ; Message-ID: <20050703150207.4952.qmail@web30015.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Received: from [198.87.103.232] by web30015.mail.mud.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sun, 03 Jul 2005 08:02:07 PDT Date: Sun, 3 Jul 2005 08:02:07 -0700 (PDT) From: Eddie Colon To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Cc: Subject: new convert X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 03 Jul 2005 15:02:09 -0000 Hello I will be a new FreeBSD user as soon as I receive my DVD. I am a Linux user for a few yrs now. I have a few concerns, I hope you can answer me, I don't belong to any mailing lists. I don't think there are any user groups down here in Puerto Rico. 1- Can you tell me if it has trouble detecting built-in modems? I have a notebook, an HP nx9020 and it's built-in modem uses the conexant chipset, My SuSE 9.3 had trouble with that until I got a 3rd party driver from www.linuxant.com. So, will run into the same thing with freebsd? 2- I have a HP scanjet 4600 scanner (usb) that doesn't have a linux driver... either from HP themselves or from the linux community. I can use it with my old windows desktop , but not with linux. Can you suggest any possible FreeBSD solution? 3- Will FreeBSD detect my Palm cradle (usb)? I use my PDA alot. I really like Jpilot as my pda gui app. Do you know of other Jpilot users that use FreeBSD ? I think I'm gonna stick with freebsd, so I will appreciate your answers, or suggestions. -- Eddie Colon Bayamon, PR 00959 "The best things in life are not things" ____________________________________________________ Yahoo! Sports Rekindle the Rivalries. Sign up for Fantasy Football http://football.fantasysports.yahoo.com From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jul 3 15:07:51 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1C7D116A41C for ; Sun, 3 Jul 2005 15:07:51 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from alan.curtis@gmail.com) Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.196]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D5CD943D46 for ; Sun, 3 Jul 2005 15:07:50 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from alan.curtis@gmail.com) Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id i25so573097wra for ; Sun, 03 Jul 2005 08:07:50 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:mime-version:content-transfer-encoding:message-id:content-type:to:from:subject:date:x-mailer; b=CQImzBB9M/EDiTUBhrGBzsCVbhBUDL+xdy8Zot4cCPWBdqciEQleHUKtF2Ra8TBIES/pZUxlKipzn+HJ1eOJJE5gReW+aYLSBwjpoRgA9963MuYe32gFUEVdRdtmboIA32PzAzGZS0hvO9HkISQDVsUJPgUvm2dQzpkVMAgOtBM= Received: by 10.54.33.70 with SMTP id g70mr3095437wrg; Sun, 03 Jul 2005 08:07:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ?192.168.1.102? ([151.203.107.66]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id d7sm3609859wra.2005.07.03.08.07.49; Sun, 03 Jul 2005 08:07:49 -0700 (PDT) Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v730) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <28EDBC57-9AE6-4D8B-9BA5-F8445C71600F@gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: Alan Curtis Date: Sun, 3 Jul 2005 11:07:41 -0400 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.730) Subject: DNS setup X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 03 Jul 2005 15:07:51 -0000 I am running FreeBSD 5.3-STABLE behind a Linksys Wireless Access Point and Firewall and a DSL modem. My ISP assigns me a dynamic IP address which changes on a regular basis and the root domain and Domain Name Servers associated with that domain also change. I have seen at least 3 different root domains. I have a number of machines on my wireless network and I would like them to be able to find one another. To do this I have assigned them fixed IP addresses. My problem how to assign the Domain Name Servers for all the machines. I point them all at the Linksys, which seems to work most of the time, but occasionally network traffic gets really slow and I suspect that its a DNS problem. Can I set up something on my FreeBSD server to help solve this problem? Alan From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jul 3 15:31:25 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3A80316A446 for ; Sun, 3 Jul 2005 15:31:25 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from lane@joeandlane.com) Received: from smtpauth08.mail.atl.earthlink.net (smtpauth08.mail.atl.earthlink.net [209.86.89.68]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E184643D4C for ; Sun, 3 Jul 2005 15:31:24 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from lane@joeandlane.com) Received: from [66.47.111.183] (helo=joeandlane.com) by smtpauth08.mail.atl.earthlink.net with asmtp (TLSv1:DES-CBC3-SHA:168) (Exim 4.34) id 1Dp6RF-00015T-Up for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sun, 03 Jul 2005 11:31:22 -0400 Received: from joeandlane.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by joeandlane.com (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id j63Fd0i4001658 for ; Sun, 3 Jul 2005 10:39:00 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from lane@joeandlane.com) Received: from localhost (localhost [[UNIX: localhost]]) by joeandlane.com (8.13.1/8.13.1/Submit) id j63Fd0Q6001657 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sun, 3 Jul 2005 10:39:00 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from lane@joeandlane.com) From: Lane To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Sun, 3 Jul 2005 10:38:59 -0500 User-Agent: KMail/1.8 References: <20050702233548.0116B3CDB@xprdmailfe4.nwk.excite.com> <200507031011.44005.wizlayer@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <200507031011.44005.wizlayer@gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200507031039.00022.lane@joeandlane.com> X-ELNK-Trace: e56a4b6ca9bdfda11aa676d7e74259b7b3291a7d08dfec7952f6750117d880d4464758a68b7b6845350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c X-Originating-IP: 66.47.111.183 Subject: Re: Linux move to FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 03 Jul 2005 15:31:25 -0000 On Sunday 03 July 2005 09:11, wizlayer wrote: > On Saturday 02 July 2005 07:35 pm, sparxz@excite.com wrote: > > Hi > > > > I am a user of SUSE Linux, and I was thinking of > > trying out BSD. After reading as much information > > as I could about the three variants of BSD vs. > > Linux. On technical merit, I was very impressed. > > > > FreeBSD looks like a good stating place for me, > > but one think about FreeBSD makes me uncomfortable > > is the symbol/emblem that the OS uses. That is a "devil" ! > > > > I would like to know if possible how this came about, > > and what thinking was behind it. From experience, I consider > > symbols to be very significant, Historically, psychologically > > and even spiritually. > > > > Best regards > > > > Mark > > > > PS. Please can u e-mail me on this e-mail sparxz@excite.com > > when an answer becomes available. > > Oh, boy.... Here we go again... > > No, not the Devil... A daemon. No, not a demon. A Daemon, an > invisible being not necessarily good and not necessarily evil, > but has the potential of both... In that sense, it is no more > evil or good as you or I... Only the potential is there. > > And naturally, because FreeBSD is such a powerful system, if you > use it for evil (which we are all capable of), it would be on us, > not the daemon... Heck, not even the "Devil" because the "Devil > didn't make you do it..." _You_ did it! :) > > This is getting old. Maybe FreeBSD should turn membership-only > (j/k but thinking of the gasps and grumbles of discontent). > > Or maybe there should be a required visit at freebsd.com to the > following link which explains it all: > > http://www.freebsd.org/copyright/daemon.html > > So "unlearned" people will quit asking the same questions over and > over on the quetsions list: > > Hope that "clears your conscience..." :D > > WizLayer > _______________________________________________ It truly boggles the mind at how frequently people protest the on-going decision to use beastie on the public face of FreeBSD. It's almost like a guest who comes into your home and then starts redecorating! I like the "members-only" solution, but of course that is not practical. Maybe FreeBSD could offer a branch for each of the worlds nine million religions and 8.5 million christian sub sects! This way we create an operating system that exists in the context of your personal religious belief system, and helps you along your own path to enlightenment (or heaven, or whatever your particular religion is all about). There are some hurdles to be overcome, but surely the effort would be worth it. For instance, since some religions have strict rules against work on their "Sabbath," the OS would have to shut itself down for 24 hours once every week -- usually Sunday, but I think some religions call Saturday the "Sabbath." Since most religions have some sort of rule against murder, the developers would have to come up with new names for commands like "kill." But, of course, the term "kill" implies what is actually going on, so it may be best to completely do away with the concept and just let processes live as long as the creator allows. The ports tree would have to be trimmed of offensive programs such as "sex," and utilities such as "god" must be changed, to keep from offending any sensibilities. In fact, such an OS would probably serve the devout best if it also had an active firewall which would protect it from the proselytizing of ChristBSD and the jihaad of AllahBSD. I'm not sure what it is about JewBSD that we would need to protect against, but the firewall should be configurable to allow or disallow contact with that bunch, as well. Ugh! Look at the time! I'm late for church, already! And I haven't even addressed "GodLessBSD!" Oh well. Maybe someone else can pick that up .... meanwhile I've got to see about getting my tongue out of my cheek before the pastor sees me. lane From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jul 3 15:39:34 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 437CD16A41C for ; Sun, 3 Jul 2005 15:39:34 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from TelkomSA87213@telkomsa.net) Received: from mail.telkomsa.net (oberon.telkomsa.net [196.25.211.1]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2EA6943D48 for ; Sun, 3 Jul 2005 15:39:32 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from TelkomSA87213@telkomsa.net) Received: (qmail 1279 invoked from network); 3 Jul 2005 15:39:30 -0000 Received: from 196.25.69.74 by oberon.telkomsa.net (envelope-from , uid 81) with qmail-scanner-1.24 (clamdscan: 0.80/557. Clear:RC:1(196.25.69.74):. 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I have a question which Linux users can answer and wondering if freebsd can come up with a simpler implementation. Groovix (the company) devised a Linux system that multiple users can connect to at one time. Thus...4 screens, 4 keyboards, 4 mice ect... Then there is "Backstreet Ruby" for linux and a lot of kernel patches included that can convert a linux kernel to a multi-user system aswell. I'm set up with the task of implementing this system on a freebsd system This is my first encounter with bsd and am impressed, yet I have a few problems when trying to implement the Multi-User Xsessions. The USB keyboards are seen but can not be declared as the CoreKeyboards in the Xorg.conf. The only way I got to get the other keyboards to work was to use kbdcontrol and give full control of the consol to a spesific keyboard. Which beats the purpose. And then the other thing...I still have to learn how to start multiple independent sessions of X on different screens. Any help would be greatly apreciated...May even buy you a diital beer. :) Thanks Tertius van Zyl From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jul 3 15:39:56 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B930F16A41F for ; Sun, 3 Jul 2005 15:39:56 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from rsmith@xs4all.nl) Received: from smtp-vbr12.xs4all.nl (smtp-vbr12.xs4all.nl [194.109.24.32]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4D35843D49 for ; Sun, 3 Jul 2005 15:39:56 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from rsmith@xs4all.nl) Received: from slackbox.xs4all.nl (slackbox.xs4all.nl [213.84.242.160]) by smtp-vbr12.xs4all.nl (8.13.3/8.13.3) with ESMTP id j63FdsPD087578; Sun, 3 Jul 2005 17:39:54 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from rsmith@xs4all.nl) Received: by slackbox.xs4all.nl (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 49A896259; Sun, 3 Jul 2005 17:39:54 +0200 (CEST) Date: Sun, 3 Jul 2005 17:39:54 +0200 From: Roland Smith To: Ron Message-ID: <20050703153954.GA5181@slackbox.xs4all.nl> Mail-Followup-To: Ron , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <20050701214521.U72289@malcolm.berkeley.edu> <87d4647e0507030528119f695@mail.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="ZGiS0Q5IWpPtfppv" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <87d4647e0507030528119f695@mail.gmail.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i X-GPG-Fingerprint: 1A2B 477F 9970 BA3C 2914 B7CE 1277 EFB0 C321 A725 X-GPG-Key: http://www.xs4all.nl/~rsmith/pubkey.txt X-GPG-Notice: If this message is not signed, don't assume I sent it! X-Virus-Scanned: by XS4ALL Virus Scanner Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD locks up when X-windows running (LONG) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 03 Jul 2005 15:39:56 -0000 --ZGiS0Q5IWpPtfppv Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sun, Jul 03, 2005 at 02:28:41PM +0200, Ron wrote: > Is there any 3d hardware company that does supply enough programming > info? I looked a year ago, but I haven't seen any *product* yet, > although there are initiatives. There is support for older cards from ATI (up to the Radeon 9250 aka RV280) in Xorg and the kernel (drm device). Ditto for Matrox G200/400, SIS 300/630/540. There is support for several intel integrated graphics chipsets in xorg, but not in the 5.x kernel, although it's in CURRENT. Roland --=20 R.F.Smith (http://www.xs4all.nl/~rsmith/) Please send e-mail as plain text. public key: http://www.xs4all.nl/~rsmith/pubkey.txt --ZGiS0Q5IWpPtfppv Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.1 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFCyAbKEnfvsMMhpyURAuHKAKCABC5BW7xAnqiJd76Isi/aUaXKjACfW1PO txTTN9mV8iCwrwstD3nr7g8= =pbvC -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --ZGiS0Q5IWpPtfppv-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jul 3 15:42:59 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 338B816A41C for ; Sun, 3 Jul 2005 15:42:59 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from casey@phantombsd.org) Received: from phantombsd.org (dsl231-036-158.sea1.dsl.speakeasy.net [216.231.36.158]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0421D43D45 for ; Sun, 3 Jul 2005 15:42:58 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from casey@phantombsd.org) Received: by phantombsd.org (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 93EA2102E93; Sun, 3 Jul 2005 08:42:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail.phantombsd.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by phantombsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3B2D1102CD3; Sun, 3 Jul 2005 08:42:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: from 209.226.87.3 (SquirrelMail authenticated user casey) by mail.phantombsd.org with HTTP; Sun, 3 Jul 2005 08:42:56 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <61588.209.226.87.3.1120405376.squirrel@mail.phantombsd.org> In-Reply-To: <28EDBC57-9AE6-4D8B-9BA5-F8445C71600F@gmail.com> References: <28EDBC57-9AE6-4D8B-9BA5-F8445C71600F@gmail.com> Date: Sun, 3 Jul 2005 08:42:56 -0700 (PDT) From: "Casey Scott" To: "Alan Curtis" User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.4 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.0.4 (2005-06-05) on eagle.phantombsd.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.8 required=5.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED autolearn=failed version=3.0.4 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: DNS setup X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 03 Jul 2005 15:42:59 -0000 If you are just looking to be able to resolve DNS internally, you can very easily setup your FBSD box to be a forwarding DNS server, and point all your other machines at it for DNS resolution. There are many howtos covering this subject. Casey > I am running FreeBSD 5.3-STABLE behind a Linksys Wireless Access > Point and Firewall and a DSL modem. My ISP assigns me a dynamic IP > address which changes on a regular basis and the root domain and > Domain Name Servers associated with that domain also change. I have > seen at least 3 different root domains. > > I have a number of machines on my wireless network and I would like > them to be able to find one another. To do this I have assigned them > fixed IP addresses. > > My problem how to assign the Domain Name Servers for all the > machines. I point them all at the Linksys, which seems to work most > of the time, but occasionally network traffic gets really slow and I > suspect that its a DNS problem. > > Can I set up something on my FreeBSD server to help solve this problem? > > Alan > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jul 3 15:43:25 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 01F6E16A41C for ; Sun, 3 Jul 2005 15:43:25 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from TelkomSA87213@telkomsa.net) Received: from mail.telkomsa.net (ophelia.telkomsa.net [196.25.211.5]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C1FB743D45 for ; Sun, 3 Jul 2005 15:43:23 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from TelkomSA87213@telkomsa.net) Received: (qmail 3206 invoked from network); 3 Jul 2005 15:43:22 -0000 Received: from 196.25.69.74 by ophelia.telkomsa.net (envelope-from , uid 81) with qmail-scanner-1.24 (clamdscan: 0.80/557. 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Processed in 0.055724 secs) Received: from unknown (HELO webmail.telkomsa.net) ([196.25.69.74]) (envelope-sender ) by O (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for ; 3 Jul 2005 15:43:22 -0000 Received: from tbnb-165-200-79.telkomadsl.co.za ([165.165.200.79]) (SquirrelMail authenticated user TelkomSA87213) by webmail.telkomsa.net with HTTP; Sun, 3 Jul 2005 17:43:20 +0200 (SAST) Message-ID: <30050.165.165.200.79.1120405400.squirrel@webmail.telkomsa.net> Date: Sun, 3 Jul 2005 17:43:20 +0200 (SAST) From: "TvZ" To: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.4 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 Importance: Normal Subject: Re: Linux move to FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: tvz1@telkomsa.net List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 03 Jul 2005 15:43:25 -0000 > > Hi > > > > I am a user of SUSE Linux, and I was thinking of > > trying out BSD. After reading as much information > > as I could about the three variants of BSD vs. > > Linux. On technical merit, I was very impressed. > > > > FreeBSD looks like a good stating place for me, > > but one think about FreeBSD makes me uncomfortable > > is the symbol/emblem that the OS uses. That is a "devil" ! > > > > I would like to know if possible how this came about, > > and what thinking was behind it. From experience, I consider > > symbols to be very significant, Historically, psychologically > > and even spiritually. > > > > Best regards > > > > Mark > > > > PS. Please can u e-mail me on this e-mail sparxz@excite.com > > when an answer becomes available. As I stated earlier...I'm rather new to BSD...but one of the reasons I changed fromn Linux -> bsd was merly the fact that I thought the penguin was more evil than Beasty. Then again...that is just me. ;) Tertius van Zyl From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jul 3 15:43:53 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D50BB16A41C for ; Sun, 3 Jul 2005 15:43:53 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from TelkomSA87213@telkomsa.net) Received: from mail.telkomsa.net (ophelia.telkomsa.net [196.25.211.5]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B8BF143D45 for ; Sun, 3 Jul 2005 15:43:52 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from TelkomSA87213@telkomsa.net) Received: (qmail 4724 invoked from network); 3 Jul 2005 15:43:52 -0000 Received: from 196.25.69.74 by ophelia.telkomsa.net (envelope-from , uid 81) with qmail-scanner-1.24 (clamdscan: 0.80/557. Clear:RC:1(196.25.69.74):. 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Processed in 0.04826 secs) Received: from unknown (HELO webmail.telkomsa.net) ([196.25.69.74]) (envelope-sender ) by O (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for ; 3 Jul 2005 15:43:51 -0000 Received: from tbnb-165-200-79.telkomadsl.co.za ([165.165.200.79]) (SquirrelMail authenticated user TelkomSA87213) by webmail.telkomsa.net with HTTP; Sun, 3 Jul 2005 17:43:50 +0200 (SAST) Message-ID: <30057.165.165.200.79.1120405430.squirrel@webmail.telkomsa.net> Date: Sun, 3 Jul 2005 17:43:50 +0200 (SAST) From: "TvZ" To: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.4 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 Importance: Normal Subject: Re: Linux move to FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: tvz1@telkomsa.net List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 03 Jul 2005 15:43:54 -0000 > > Hi > > > > I am a user of SUSE Linux, and I was thinking of > > trying out BSD. After reading as much information > > as I could about the three variants of BSD vs. > > Linux. On technical merit, I was very impressed. > > > > FreeBSD looks like a good stating place for me, > > but one think about FreeBSD makes me uncomfortable > > is the symbol/emblem that the OS uses. That is a "devil" ! > > > > I would like to know if possible how this came about, > > and what thinking was behind it. From experience, I consider > > symbols to be very significant, Historically, psychologically > > and even spiritually. > > > > Best regards > > > > Mark > > > > PS. Please can u e-mail me on this e-mail sparxz@excite.com > > when an answer becomes available. As I stated earlier...I'm rather new to BSD...but one of the reasons I changed fromn Linux -> bsd was merly the fact that I thought the penguin was more evil than Beasty. Then again...that is just me. ;) Tertius van Zyl From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jul 3 15:56:01 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7478916A41F for ; Sun, 3 Jul 2005 15:56:01 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from alejandro@varnet.biz) Received: from relay.pair.com (relay00.pair.com [209.68.1.20]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 12BB743D48 for ; Sun, 3 Jul 2005 15:56:00 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from alejandro@varnet.biz) Received: (qmail 56061 invoked from network); 3 Jul 2005 15:55:59 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO phobos.mars.bsd) (unknown) by unknown with SMTP; 3 Jul 2005 15:55:59 -0000 X-pair-Authenticated: 200.115.214.28 Date: Sun, 3 Jul 2005 12:57:54 -0300 From: Alejandro Pulver To: Alan Curtis Message-ID: <20050703125754.53452296@phobos.mars.bsd> In-Reply-To: <28EDBC57-9AE6-4D8B-9BA5-F8445C71600F@gmail.com> References: <28EDBC57-9AE6-4D8B-9BA5-F8445C71600F@gmail.com> X-Mailer: Sylpheed-Claws 1.0.4 (GTK+ 1.2.10; i386-portbld-freebsd5.4) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: DNS setup X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 03 Jul 2005 15:56:01 -0000 On Sun, 3 Jul 2005 11:07:41 -0400 Alan Curtis wrote: > I am running FreeBSD 5.3-STABLE behind a Linksys Wireless Access > Point and Firewall and a DSL modem. My ISP assigns me a dynamic IP > address which changes on a regular basis and the root domain and > Domain Name Servers associated with that domain also change. I have > seen at least 3 different root domains. > > I have a number of machines on my wireless network and I would like > them to be able to find one another. To do this I have assigned them > fixed IP addresses. > > My problem how to assign the Domain Name Servers for all the > machines. I point them all at the Linksys, which seems to work most > of the time, but occasionally network traffic gets really slow and I > suspect that its a DNS problem. > > Can I set up something on my FreeBSD server to help solve this > problem? > > Alan > Hello, If you think the problem is on your ISP DNS servers, you have two alternatives: 1) Set up a local DNS server on all the machines of the network. 2) Set up a DNS server on one machine, that answers queries to all the machines of the network. If you want more detailed information about them (like how to set them up), ask me. Best Regards, Ale From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jul 3 16:14:12 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2CF9B16A41C for ; Sun, 3 Jul 2005 16:14:12 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from fbsd_user@a1poweruser.com) Received: from mta9.adelphia.net (mta9.adelphia.net [68.168.78.199]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DF82D43D45 for ; Sun, 3 Jul 2005 16:14:11 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from fbsd_user@a1poweruser.com) Received: from barbish ([69.172.31.81]) by mta9.adelphia.net (InterMail vM.6.01.04.01 201-2131-118-101-20041129) with SMTP id <20050703161411.NELF29002.mta9.adelphia.net@barbish> for ; Sun, 3 Jul 2005 12:14:11 -0400 From: "fbsd_user" To: "freebsd-questions@FreeBSD. ORG" Date: Sun, 3 Jul 2005 12:14:05 -0400 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.6604 (9.0.2911.0) In-Reply-To: <6BD492A9-2A38-49C8-B0E2-507F1B9964B2@amadeus.demon.nl> Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1409 Cc: Subject: RE: help with sh script X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: fbsd_user@a1poweruser.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 03 Jul 2005 16:14:12 -0000 On 03 jul 2005, at 15:39, fbsd_user wrote: >> What is the sh coding to strip the periods from a IP address?? >> >> >> raw_ip='10.0.10.5' this is starting >> num_ip='100105' and this is what I need to convert to. >> >> >> >Hi, >many ways, here's one: > >printf '10.0.10.5' | sed 's/\.//g' > >Arno ***************************************** Thanks but I need a little more help. num_ip="(printf $raw_ip | sed 's/\.//g')" gives me a error. What would the correct syntax be? I am trying to write script to insert rules into PF firewall on 5.4. using pf anchors. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jul 3 16:23:52 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C498D16A41C for ; Sun, 3 Jul 2005 16:23:52 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from alejandro@varnet.biz) Received: from relay03.pair.com (relay03.pair.com [209.68.5.17]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 63D4143D46 for ; Sun, 3 Jul 2005 16:23:52 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from alejandro@varnet.biz) Received: (qmail 35555 invoked from network); 3 Jul 2005 16:23:50 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO phobos.mars.bsd) (unknown) by unknown with SMTP; 3 Jul 2005 16:23:50 -0000 X-pair-Authenticated: 200.115.214.28 Date: Sun, 3 Jul 2005 13:25:46 -0300 From: Alejandro Pulver To: fbsd_user@a1poweruser.com Message-ID: <20050703132546.62438d76@phobos.mars.bsd> In-Reply-To: References: <6BD492A9-2A38-49C8-B0E2-507F1B9964B2@amadeus.demon.nl> X-Mailer: Sylpheed-Claws 1.0.4 (GTK+ 1.2.10; i386-portbld-freebsd5.4) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: "freebsd-questions@FreeBSD. ORG" Subject: Re: help with sh script X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 03 Jul 2005 16:23:52 -0000 On Sun, 3 Jul 2005 12:14:05 -0400 "fbsd_user" wrote: > Thanks but I need a little more help. > > num_ip="(printf $raw_ip | sed 's/\.//g')" > > gives me a error. > > What would the correct syntax be? > > I am trying to write script to insert rules into PF firewall > on 5.4. using pf anchors. > Hello, The problem here is that num_ip="(printf $raw_ip | sed 's/\.//g')" makes num_ip equal to (printf $raw_ip | sed 's/\.//g') instead of its output. To assign the output of a command use "`": num_ip=`(printf $raw_ip | sed 's/\.//g')` Also the subshell (the "()") is not needed: num_ip=`printf $raw_ip | sed 's/\.//g'` Hope that helps. Best Regards, Ale From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jul 3 16:29:35 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ECC1316A41C for ; Sun, 3 Jul 2005 16:29:35 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from rsmith@xs4all.nl) Received: from smtp-vbr10.xs4all.nl (smtp-vbr10.xs4all.nl [194.109.24.30]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 81DDF43D46 for ; Sun, 3 Jul 2005 16:29:35 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from rsmith@xs4all.nl) Received: from slackbox.xs4all.nl (slackbox.xs4all.nl [213.84.242.160]) by smtp-vbr10.xs4all.nl (8.13.3/8.13.3) with ESMTP id j63GTWoI077387; Sun, 3 Jul 2005 18:29:32 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from rsmith@xs4all.nl) Received: by slackbox.xs4all.nl (Postfix, from userid 1001) id ED75E6259; Sun, 3 Jul 2005 18:29:31 +0200 (CEST) Date: Sun, 3 Jul 2005 18:29:31 +0200 From: Roland Smith To: fbsd_user Message-ID: <20050703162931.GA5598@slackbox.xs4all.nl> Mail-Followup-To: fbsd_user , "freebsd-questions@FreeBSD. ORG" References: <6BD492A9-2A38-49C8-B0E2-507F1B9964B2@amadeus.demon.nl> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="3V7upXqbjpZ4EhLz" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i X-GPG-Fingerprint: 1A2B 477F 9970 BA3C 2914 B7CE 1277 EFB0 C321 A725 X-GPG-Key: http://www.xs4all.nl/~rsmith/pubkey.txt X-GPG-Notice: If this message is not signed, don't assume I sent it! X-Virus-Scanned: by XS4ALL Virus Scanner Cc: "freebsd-questions@FreeBSD. ORG" Subject: Re: help with sh script X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 03 Jul 2005 16:29:36 -0000 --3V7upXqbjpZ4EhLz Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sun, Jul 03, 2005 at 12:14:05PM -0400, fbsd_user wrote: > >many ways, here's one: > > > >printf '10.0.10.5' | sed 's/\.//g' > > > >Arno >=20 > ***************************************** >=20 > Thanks but I need a little more help. >=20 > num_ip=3D"(printf $raw_ip | sed 's/\.//g')" >=20 > gives me a error. >=20 > What would the correct syntax be? Use backtics: num_ip=3D`echo $raw_ip | sed 's/\.//g'` Note that when you do this, more that one IP address can end up as the same num_ip, e.g. 11.0.1.50 and 1.10.1.50. Roland --=20 R.F.Smith (http://www.xs4all.nl/~rsmith/) Please send e-mail as plain text. public key: http://www.xs4all.nl/~rsmith/pubkey.txt --3V7upXqbjpZ4EhLz Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.1 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFCyBJrEnfvsMMhpyURAnETAJ9TSHjVbMa/Aspl7AcywPr87aE0DgCgjIgf umkfb9BrKExkKZZl7drSb1k= =/g4K -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --3V7upXqbjpZ4EhLz-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jul 3 16:32:27 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CCBE016A41C for ; Sun, 3 Jul 2005 16:32:27 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from kris@obsecurity.org) Received: from obsecurity.dyndns.org (CPE0050040655c8-CM00111ae02aac.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com [69.194.102.232]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 868D043D45 for ; Sun, 3 Jul 2005 16:32:27 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from kris@obsecurity.org) Received: by obsecurity.dyndns.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 76CD251329; Sun, 3 Jul 2005 12:32:26 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sun, 3 Jul 2005 12:32:26 -0400 From: Kris Kennaway To: questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20050703163226.GA97415@xor.obsecurity.org> References: <20050703154323.H24613@maren.thelosingend.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="1yeeQ81UyVL57Vl7" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20050703154323.H24613@maren.thelosingend.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Cc: Subject: Re: Year-old messages X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 03 Jul 2005 16:32:27 -0000 --1yeeQ81UyVL57Vl7 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sun, Jul 03, 2005 at 03:46:46PM +0200, Svein Halvor Halvorsen wrote: >=20 > How come I get all these year-old messages coming in today? > I got a couple of dozen of these in both questions@, current@ and stable@. >=20 > Here's an exerpt from the headers of one such message > What's mu.org got to do with this? A bad script from someone at mu.org. Kris --1yeeQ81UyVL57Vl7 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.1 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFCyBMaWry0BWjoQKURAvH1AJ9y55fi+RVg7RwDartIFE0qVHIdpwCgyzpi BhqL552Q55HsbCVFd2cvff4= =oSD2 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --1yeeQ81UyVL57Vl7-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jul 3 17:03:31 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7227C16A41C for ; Sun, 3 Jul 2005 17:03:31 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from cswiger@mac.com) Received: from pi.codefab.com (pi.codefab.com [199.103.21.227]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 430E443D45 for ; Sun, 3 Jul 2005 17:03:31 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from cswiger@mac.com) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pi.codefab.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7A8085D62 for ; Sun, 3 Jul 2005 13:03:30 -0400 (EDT) Received: from pi.codefab.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (pi.codefab.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 77674-05 for ; Sun, 3 Jul 2005 13:03:21 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [192.168.1.3] (pool-68-161-54-113.ny325.east.verizon.net [68.161.54.113]) by pi.codefab.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id CE3685C3A for ; Sun, 3 Jul 2005 13:03:20 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <42C81A5E.4030604@mac.com> Date: Sun, 03 Jul 2005 13:03:26 -0400 From: Chuck Swiger Organization: The Courts of Chaos User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.8) Gecko/20050511 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: questions@freebsd.org References: <20050703154323.H24613@maren.thelosingend.net> <20050703163226.GA97415@xor.obsecurity.org> In-Reply-To: <20050703163226.GA97415@xor.obsecurity.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at codefab.com Cc: Subject: Re: Year-old messages X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 03 Jul 2005 17:03:31 -0000 Kris Kennaway wrote: > On Sun, Jul 03, 2005 at 03:46:46PM +0200, Svein Halvor Halvorsen wrote: >> How come I get all these year-old messages coming in today? >> I got a couple of dozen of these in both questions@, current@ and stable@. >> >> Here's an exerpt from the headers of one such message >> What's mu.org got to do with this? > > A bad script from someone at mu.org. Yes, this smells like procmail. Procmail includes a utility called formail which will take an mbox full of messages and do something to them. Used incorrectly, this utility will redeliver (!) all of the messages in the mbox, resulting in a flood of old mail.... -- -Chuck From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jul 3 17:03:42 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AB1D116A41C for ; Sun, 3 Jul 2005 17:03:42 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from fbsd_user@a1poweruser.com) Received: from mta13.adelphia.net (mta13.adelphia.net [68.168.78.44]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 390E043D46 for ; Sun, 3 Jul 2005 17:03:42 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from fbsd_user@a1poweruser.com) Received: from barbish ([69.172.31.81]) by mta13.adelphia.net (InterMail vM.6.01.04.01 201-2131-118-101-20041129) with SMTP id <20050703170341.OCYQ14360.mta13.adelphia.net@barbish>; Sun, 3 Jul 2005 13:03:41 -0400 From: "fbsd_user" To: "Alejandro Pulver" Date: Sun, 3 Jul 2005 13:03:40 -0400 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.6604 (9.0.2911.0) In-Reply-To: <20050703132546.62438d76@phobos.mars.bsd> Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1409 Cc: "freebsd-questions@FreeBSD. ORG" Subject: RE: help with sh script X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: fbsd_user@a1poweruser.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 03 Jul 2005 17:03:42 -0000 On Sun, 3 Jul 2005 12:14:05 -0400 "fbsd_user" wrote: >> Thanks but I need a little more help. >> >> num_ip="(printf $raw_ip | sed 's/\.//g')" >> >> gives me a error. >> >> What would the correct syntax be? >> >> I am trying to write script to insert rules into PF firewall >> on 5.4. using pf anchors. >> > >Hello, > >The problem here is that > >num_ip="(printf $raw_ip | sed 's/\.//g')" > >makes num_ip equal to > >(printf $raw_ip | sed 's/\.//g') > >instead of its output. > >To assign the output of a command use "`": > >num_ip=`(printf $raw_ip | sed 's/\.//g')` > >Also the subshell (the "()") is not needed: > >num_ip=`printf $raw_ip | sed 's/\.//g'` > >Hope that helps. > >Best Regards, >Ale Thanks that was just what I needed. Now building on that I tried this std_text='No ALTQ support in kernel ALTQ related functions disabled' ret_ob=`(echo $outrule) | pfctl -a doorman_ob:$session_name_ob -f - 2>&1` ret_ob=`printf $ret_ob | sed 's/\$std_text//g'` The goal here is to remove the std_text from the output of the pftctl command. I get this error "printf missing format character" Does sed need different syntax or have I got it all wrong? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jul 3 17:24:02 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A8EA916A41C for ; Sun, 3 Jul 2005 17:24:02 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from FreeBSD@amadeus.demon.nl) Received: from post-22.mail.nl.demon.net (post-22.mail.nl.demon.net [194.159.73.192]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6F4FB43D45 for ; Sun, 3 Jul 2005 17:24:02 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from FreeBSD@amadeus.demon.nl) Received: from amadeus.demon.nl ([82.161.18.200]:55948 helo=[10.0.1.1]) by post-22.mail.nl.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Dp8CH-0000HZ-2C for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sun, 03 Jul 2005 17:24:01 +0000 In-Reply-To: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v730) X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Message-Id: <334F6B97-E8F8-448D-B102-FCF0DBFAE474@amadeus.demon.nl> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: FreeBSD questions mailing list Date: Sun, 3 Jul 2005 19:23:57 +0200 To: "freebsd-questions@FreeBSD. ORG" X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.730) Subject: Re: help with sh script X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 03 Jul 2005 17:24:02 -0000 On 03 jul 2005, at 17:18, fbsd_user wrote: > > > On 03 jul 2005, at 15:39, fbsd_user wrote: > > >>> What is the sh coding to strip the periods from a IP address?? >>> >>> >>> raw_ip='10.0.10.5' this is starting >>> num_ip='100105' and this is what I need to convert to. >>> >>> >>> >>> >> Hi, >> many ways, here's one: >> >> printf '10.0.10.5' | sed 's/\.//g' >> >> Arno >> > > ***************************************** > > Thanks but I need a little more help. > > num_ip="(printf $raw_ip | sed 's/\.//g')" > > gives me a error. > > What would the correct syntax be? > > I am trying to write script to insert rules into PF firewall > on 5.4. using pf anchors. > > > you forgot the " " around the printf argument: num_ip=" `printf "$raw_ip" | sed 's/\.//g' ` " Arno From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jul 3 17:27:34 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CE94B16A41C for ; Sun, 3 Jul 2005 17:27:34 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from wizlayer@gmail.com) Received: from engraver.valleygate.net (12-215-216-27.client.mchsi.com [12.215.216.27]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0E89E43D48 for ; Sun, 3 Jul 2005 17:27:33 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from wizlayer@gmail.com) Received: from wizard.valleygate.net (wizard.valleygate.net [10.51.10.3]) by engraver.valleygate.net (8.13.3/8.13.3) with ESMTP id j63HRWN7013185; Sun, 3 Jul 2005 13:27:32 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from wizlayer@gmail.com) From: wizlayer To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Sun, 3 Jul 2005 13:27:29 -0400 User-Agent: KMail/1.8 References: <20050702233548.0116B3CDB@xprdmailfe4.nwk.excite.com> <200507031011.44005.wizlayer@gmail.com> <200507031039.00022.lane@joeandlane.com> In-Reply-To: <200507031039.00022.lane@joeandlane.com> X-Face: "e_)EG1Ia?&ecqhxa3_`G|cr35_87a'T"AlQ5IdTBhZiRj}wk9EdPBnW,=?iso-8859-1?q?oSeBhvgAPmZZU=24=0A?= W'Edks*9`,UQ3y\zk%deq; (N8p5>>Pdje|W%i2b7_C{KOi"JBmNTeItUGg\FX9`b#U4P X-Copyright: Copyright 2005, Michael Hauber, All rights reserved. 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MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200507031327.31004.wizlayer@gmail.com> Cc: Lane Subject: Re: Linux move to FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: wizlayer@gmail.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 03 Jul 2005 17:27:34 -0000 On Sunday 03 July 2005 11:38 am, Lane wrote: > > It truly boggles the mind at how frequently people protest the > on-going decision to use beastie on the public face of FreeBSD. > It's almost like a guest who comes into your home and then > starts redecorating! > > I like the "members-only" solution, but of course that is not > practical. > > Maybe FreeBSD could offer a branch for each of the worlds nine > million religions and 8.5 million christian sub sects! This > way we create an operating system that exists in the context of > your personal religious belief system, and helps you along your > own path to enlightenment (or heaven, or whatever your > particular religion is all about). > > There are some hurdles to be overcome, but surely the effort > would be worth it. > lol... Why not, Linux does it... Just have a looksee: http://www.geocities.com/ResearchTriangle/Node/4081/ (I know this is an old one, but I still get a kick out of it). WizLayer From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jul 3 17:50:27 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8A76B16A41C for ; Sun, 3 Jul 2005 17:50:27 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from alexandre.delay@free.fr) Received: from postfix4-1.free.fr (postfix4-1.free.fr [213.228.0.62]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 26F6A43D46 for ; Sun, 3 Jul 2005 17:50:26 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from alexandre.delay@free.fr) Received: from serveur.thrruss.org (unknown [81.56.231.36]) by postfix4-1.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id D69F2317F62 for ; Sun, 3 Jul 2005 19:50:25 +0200 (CEST) Received: from artemis (artemis [192.168.2.2]) by serveur.thrruss.org (8.13.0/8.13.0) with SMTP id j63HocX8030116 for ; Sun, 3 Jul 2005 19:50:38 +0200 From: "Alexandre D." To: Date: Sun, 3 Jul 2005 19:50:37 +0200 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1478 Subject: disk tuning X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 03 Jul 2005 17:50:27 -0000 Hi guys, I'm trying to determine the good commands to initialise a disk. I would like to get the same result than with the sysinstall fdisk. But If I use the handbook's command: # dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/ad2 bs=1k count=1 # fdisk -BI ad2 # disklabel -B -w -r ${disk}s1 auto I do not get the same result. The slice is not defined exactly the same and the geometry is also not the same. How can I get exactly the same result with a command line thant with the sysinstall's fdisk (A = Use Entire)? Thanks cheers Alex From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jul 3 18:17:22 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AF02616A41F for ; Sun, 3 Jul 2005 18:17:22 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from sdbrown@glycine.annular.org) Received: from glycine.annular.org (glycine.annular.org [69.17.112.116]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5635743D46 for ; Sun, 3 Jul 2005 18:17:22 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from sdbrown@glycine.annular.org) Received: from glycine.annular.org (localhost.annular.org [127.0.0.1]) by glycine.annular.org (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id j63IHHho003166 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Sun, 3 Jul 2005 11:17:19 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from sdbrown@glycine.annular.org) Received: (from sdbrown@localhost) by glycine.annular.org (8.12.10/8.12.10/Submit) id j63IHHgj003165 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sun, 3 Jul 2005 11:17:17 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from sdbrown) Date: Sun, 3 Jul 2005 11:17:14 -0700 From: Steve Brown To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20050703181714.GA3060@glycine.annular.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i Subject: Serial console capable BIOSes? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 03 Jul 2005 18:17:22 -0000 Does anyone have recommendations for motherboards (P3 or P4) with good BIOS serial console support that plays nicely with FreeBSD running a serial console on the same port? Basically, I'd like to monitor the pre-BSD boot process and the BSD boot process from a terminal window on another machine. Thanks, Steve B From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jul 3 18:23:55 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4A10216A41C for ; Sun, 3 Jul 2005 18:23:55 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from matt@atopia.net) Received: from neptune.atopia.net (neptune.atopia.net [209.128.231.90]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 25DC243D46 for ; Sun, 3 Jul 2005 18:23:55 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from matt@atopia.net) Received: by neptune.atopia.net (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 5C1BC45E6; Sun, 3 Jul 2005 14:22:11 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by neptune.atopia.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 56B7B45E4 for ; Sun, 3 Jul 2005 14:22:11 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sun, 3 Jul 2005 14:22:10 -0400 (EDT) From: Matt Juszczak To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20050703142113.F71747@neptune.atopia.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Subject: Syn TCP Retries equivelent? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 03 Jul 2005 18:23:55 -0000 ----snip----- We figured out that if the primary LDAP server is online but the slapd process is down, the client (in this case NSS/PAM) immediately gets a "connection refused" and fails over to the secondary. On the other hand, if the machine is really down (i.e. powered off) and is in the same network, the underlying TCP will exponentially try five times (on Linux) to access that server before abandoning it. Solution on Linux is to set the kernel parameter (tcp_syn_retries) to some lower value, although this might break something else. We've been running for a few weeks with /proc/sys/net/ipv4/tcp_syn_retries set to 1 and have had no headaches (YMMV). ----snip---- Is there an equivelent to this in FreeBSD? If so, is it possible to set it for certain services? If I set it globally will it break something else? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jul 3 18:59:33 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 83B1416A41C for ; Sun, 3 Jul 2005 18:59:33 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from fbsd_user@a1poweruser.com) Received: from mta9.adelphia.net (mta9.adelphia.net [68.168.78.199]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 419FF43D48 for ; Sun, 3 Jul 2005 18:59:33 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from fbsd_user@a1poweruser.com) Received: from barbish ([69.172.31.81]) by mta9.adelphia.net (InterMail vM.6.01.04.01 201-2131-118-101-20041129) with SMTP id <20050703185932.RZMH29002.mta9.adelphia.net@barbish> for ; Sun, 3 Jul 2005 14:59:32 -0400 From: "fbsd_user" To: "freebsd-questions@FreeBSD. ORG" Date: Sun, 3 Jul 2005 14:59:32 -0400 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.6604 (9.0.2911.0) In-Reply-To: <20050703172255.GA5805@slackbox.xs4all.nl> Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1409 Cc: Subject: RE: help with sh script X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: fbsd_user@a1poweruser.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 03 Jul 2005 18:59:33 -0000 std_text='No ALTQ support in kernel ALTQ related functions disabled' ret_ob='No ALTQ support in kernel ALTQ related functions disabled OK' ret_ob=`printf "$ret_ob" | sed 's/\$std_text//g'` Does not strip off the std_text stuff. How would I code a statement to remove everything from $ret_ob but the ok at the end so $ret_ob would only contain the ok?? Some times $ret_ob will end in some error message and that is what I want to capture after striping off the std_text. Thanks From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jul 3 19:05:55 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1E9BA16A41C for ; Sun, 3 Jul 2005 19:05:55 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from alexandre.delay@free.fr) Received: from postfix3-2.free.fr (postfix3-2.free.fr [213.228.0.169]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ADACA43D45 for ; Sun, 3 Jul 2005 19:05:54 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from alexandre.delay@free.fr) Received: from serveur.thrruss.org (unknown [81.56.231.36]) by postfix3-2.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id EEA6FC086 for ; Sun, 3 Jul 2005 21:05:52 +0200 (CEST) Received: from artemis (artemis [192.168.2.2]) by serveur.thrruss.org (8.13.0/8.13.0) with SMTP id j63J66HD030871 for ; Sun, 3 Jul 2005 21:06:07 +0200 From: "Alexandre D." To: Date: Sun, 3 Jul 2005 21:06:06 +0200 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) In-Reply-To: Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1478 Subject: RE: disk tuning X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 03 Jul 2005 19:05:55 -0000 using sysinstall, I got: ******* Working on device /dev/ad2 ******* parameters extracted from in-core disklabel are: cylinders=79656 heads=16 sectors/track=63 (1008 blks/cyl) Figures below won't work with BIOS for partitions not in cyl 1 parameters to be used for BIOS calculations are: cylinders=79656 heads=16 sectors/track=63 (1008 blks/cyl) Media sector size is 512 Warning: BIOS sector numbering starts with sector 1 Information from DOS bootblock is: The data for partition 1 is: sysid 165 (0xa5),(FreeBSD/NetBSD/386BSD) start 63, size 80292807 (39205 Meg), flag 80 (active) beg: cyl 0/ head 1/ sector 1; end: cyl 1023/ head 254/ sector 63 The data for partition 2 is: The data for partition 3 is: The data for partition 4 is: ---------------- Using those commands (dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/ad2 bs=1k count=1; fdisk -BI ad2; disklabel -B -w -r ${disk}s1 auto): ******* Working on device /dev/ad2 ******* parameters extracted from in-core disklabel are: cylinders=79656 heads=16 sectors/track=63 (1008 blks/cyl) Figures below won't work with BIOS for partitions not in cyl 1 parameters to be used for BIOS calculations are: cylinders=79656 heads=16 sectors/track=63 (1008 blks/cyl) Media sector size is 512 Warning: BIOS sector numbering starts with sector 1 Information from DOS bootblock is: The data for partition 1 is: sysid 165 (0xa5),(FreeBSD/NetBSD/386BSD) start 63, size 80293185 (39205 Meg), flag 80 (active) beg: cyl 0/ head 1/ sector 1; end: cyl 807/ head 15/ sector 63 The data for partition 2 is: The data for partition 3 is: The data for partition 4 is: You can see that there is a bug in the geometry of the last slice! I do that in order to build a restore script. Nothing work because of that. cheers Alex -----Message d'origine----- De : owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org [mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]De la part de Alexandre D. Envoyé : dimanche 3 juillet 2005 19:51 À : freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Objet : disk tuning Hi guys, I'm trying to determine the good commands to initialise a disk. I would like to get the same result than with the sysinstall fdisk. But If I use the handbook's command: # dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/ad2 bs=1k count=1 # fdisk -BI ad2 # disklabel -B -w -r ${disk}s1 auto I do not get the same result. The slice is not defined exactly the same and the geometry is also not the same. How can I get exactly the same result with a command line thant with the sysinstall's fdisk (A = Use Entire)? Thanks cheers Alex _______________________________________________ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jul 3 19:21:56 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8D41116A41C for ; Sun, 3 Jul 2005 19:21:56 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from FreeBSD@amadeus.demon.nl) Received: from post-24.mail.nl.demon.net (post-24.mail.nl.demon.net [194.159.73.194]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 539E943D48 for ; Sun, 3 Jul 2005 19:21:56 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from FreeBSD@amadeus.demon.nl) Received: from amadeus.demon.nl ([82.161.18.200]:61732 helo=[10.0.1.1]) by post-24.mail.nl.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1DpA2M-000Bvi-M2; Sun, 03 Jul 2005 19:21:55 +0000 In-Reply-To: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v730) X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Message-Id: <63E2D68B-C621-4901-9EDE-9EBDFA45EEFD@amadeus.demon.nl> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: FreeBSD questions mailing list Date: Sun, 3 Jul 2005 21:21:47 +0200 To: fbsd_user@a1poweruser.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.730) Cc: "freebsd-questions@FreeBSD. ORG" Subject: Re: help with sh script X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 03 Jul 2005 19:21:56 -0000 On 03 jul 2005, at 20:59, fbsd_user wrote: > > > std_text='No ALTQ support in kernel ALTQ related functions disabled' > ret_ob='No ALTQ support in kernel ALTQ related functions disabled > OK' > > ret_ob=`printf "$ret_ob" | sed 's/\$std_text//g'` > Does not strip off the std_text stuff. > > How would I code a statement to remove everything from $ret_ob > but the ok at the end so $ret_ob would only contain the ok?? > > Some times $ret_ob will end in some error message and that is > what I want to capture after striping off the std_text. > > > Thanks > hmm try this then: ret_ob=`printf "$ret_ob" | tr -d "$std_text"` Arno From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jul 3 19:31:29 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 84BB516A41C for ; Sun, 3 Jul 2005 19:31:29 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from alejandro@varnet.biz) Received: from relay03.pair.com (relay03.pair.com [209.68.5.17]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 249C543D45 for ; Sun, 3 Jul 2005 19:31:29 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from alejandro@varnet.biz) Received: (qmail 69554 invoked from network); 3 Jul 2005 19:31:27 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO phobos.mars.bsd) (unknown) by unknown with SMTP; 3 Jul 2005 19:31:27 -0000 X-pair-Authenticated: 200.115.214.28 Date: Sun, 3 Jul 2005 16:33:19 -0300 From: Alejandro Pulver To: fbsd_user@a1poweruser.com Message-ID: <20050703163319.58bd970c@phobos.mars.bsd> In-Reply-To: References: <20050703172255.GA5805@slackbox.xs4all.nl> X-Mailer: Sylpheed-Claws 1.0.4 (GTK+ 1.2.10; i386-portbld-freebsd5.4) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: help with sh script X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 03 Jul 2005 19:31:29 -0000 On Sun, 3 Jul 2005 14:59:32 -0400 "fbsd_user" wrote: > > > std_text='No ALTQ support in kernel ALTQ related functions disabled' > ret_ob='No ALTQ support in kernel ALTQ related functions disabled > OK' > > ret_ob=`printf "$ret_ob" | sed 's/\$std_text//g'` > Does not strip off the std_text stuff. > > How would I code a statement to remove everything from $ret_ob > but the ok at the end so $ret_ob would only contain the ok?? > > Some times $ret_ob will end in some error message and that is > what I want to capture after striping off the std_text. > > > Thanks > Hello, The problem here is that single quotes ("'") avoid variable substitution. e.g. var="text" echo $var # outputs text echo '$var' # outputs $var (literally) Also the backslash avoids variable substitution when placed before a "$". e.g. echo $var # outputs text echo \$var # outputs $var (literally) The solution is this: ret_ob=`printf "$ret_ob" | sed "s/$std_text//g"` ^ ^ ^ Hope that helps. Best Regards, Ale From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jul 3 20:08:06 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4B78A16A442 for ; Sun, 3 Jul 2005 20:08:06 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from bryan.maynard@reallm.com) Received: from hosting.sourcit.net (mail3.eitsolutions.net [68.23.20.100]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DC6E243D49 for ; Sun, 3 Jul 2005 20:08:05 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from bryan.maynard@reallm.com) Received: (qmail 6363 invoked from network); 3 Jul 2005 15:01:24 -0500 Received: from al1-24.207.169.154.charter-stl.com (HELO ?192.168.1.102?) (24.207.169.154) by sourcit.net with SMTP; 3 Jul 2005 15:01:23 -0500 From: Bryan Maynard Organization: Sofos Nikitis To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Sun, 3 Jul 2005 15:00:34 +0000 User-Agent: KMail/1.8 References: In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200507031500.35157.bryan.maynard@reallm.com> Subject: Re: FreeBSD 5.4 ndis support X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 03 Jul 2005 20:08:07 -0000 I've been having issues with ndis myself. However, I got some help and things are going good for me, except that i haven't gotten DHCP to work for the card. . . Anyway, there is a utility in 5.4 (I think that's that's where it showed up) called "ndisgen". Running ndisgen steps you through a wonderful little script that asks for for the location of your INF and SYS files, generates you .h file and kernel module. I was getting the same "No such file or directory" error until I ran ndisgen. Give it a try. :-D Bryan On Sunday 03 July 2005 10:10 am, Tobias Tom wrote: Hello everyone, I'm using FreeBSD for some years now. I've read the german Mailinglist for nearly the same time. But I've got a Problem which no one can reproduce, or no one know any solution. I want to use my Level One wnc 0301 WLAN PCI Card in my FreeBSD box with acts as a Router in my small Home Network. I've found no drivers or buildin support for that Card. Google, and the Manufactor told me that it is using the raltech rt2500 chip. I found a page where someone builds a driver for FreeBSD CURRENT, but it is not portable for the 5.x branch. Someone told me that I could use the ndis Feature which occured in FreeBSD 5.3. I'm not sure how happy I am with Windows Drivers on my FreeBSD Box, but for now i don't see any alternative. So I tried to get ndis Support up like it is described inside the Manual, and inside the first commit Message of the Files. Building seems to work really fine. I've created the ndis_driver_data.h from my driver INF and Driver SYS. Ran make && make install and everything was finished without any error. Then I tried to load the ndis support with "kldload ndis". It results into the following Error Message: "kldload: can't load ndis: No such file or directory" So I looked it the file is really not existing. But it exists, ls output is: "-rwxr-xr-x 1 root wheel 91686 Jul 3 15:37 /usr/src/sys/modules/ndis/ndis.ko" So I looked into dmesg and saw the following Error: link_elf: symbol VOP_GETATTR_APV undefined KLD if_ndis.ko: depends on ndisapi - not available After I could not get something usefull out for me (others might be more successfull ;o) I looked again into the man page of ndis. Under Synopsis the following lines are written down: options NDISAPI device ndis device wlan So I though when i cannot build ndis as module, or maybe the ndisapi come directly from the kernel, i could build my custom kernel with these options. It stoped with these Lines: cc -c -O -pipe -Wall -Wredundant-decls -Wnested-externs -Wstrict-prototypes -Wmissing-prototypes -Wpointer-arith -Winline -Wcast-qual -fformat-extensions -std=c99 -nostdinc -I- -I. -I/usr/src/sys -I/usr/src/sys/contrib/dev/acpica -I/usr/src/sys/contrib/altq -I/usr/src/sys/contrib/ipfilter -I/usr/src/sys/contrib/pf -I/usr/src/sys/contrib/dev/ath -I/usr/src/sys/contrib/dev/ath/freebsd -I/usr/src/sys/contrib/ngatm -I/usr/src/sys/dev/twa -D_KERNEL -include opt_global.h -fno-common -finline-limit=8000 --param inline-unit-growth=100 --param large-function-growth=1000 -mno-align-long-strings -mpreferred-stack-boundary=2 -mno-mmx -mno-3dnow -mno-sse -mno-sse2 -ffreestanding -Werror /usr/src/sys/compat/ndis/subr_ntoskrnl.c /usr/src/sys/compat/ndis/subr_ntoskrnl.c: In function `KeRemoveQueueDpc': /usr/src/sys/compat/ndis/subr_ntoskrnl.c:3115: warning: dereferencing `void *' pointer /usr/src/sys/compat/ndis/subr_ntoskrnl.c:3115: error: request for member `mtx_lock' in something not a structure or union /usr/src/sys/compat/ndis/subr_ntoskrnl.c:3115: warning: dereferencing `void *' pointer /usr/src/sys/compat/ndis/subr_ntoskrnl.c:3115: error: request for member `mtx_recurse' in something not a structure or union /usr/src/sys/compat/ndis/subr_ntoskrnl.c:3115: warning: dereferencing `void *' pointer /usr/src/sys/compat/ndis/subr_ntoskrnl.c:3115: error: request for member `mtx_lock' in something not a structure or union /usr/src/sys/compat/ndis/subr_ntoskrnl.c:3117: warning: dereferencing `void *' pointer /usr/src/sys/compat/ndis/subr_ntoskrnl.c:3117: error: request for member `mtx_recurse' in something not a structure or union /usr/src/sys/compat/ndis/subr_ntoskrnl.c:3117: warning: dereferencing `void *' pointer /usr/src/sys/compat/ndis/subr_ntoskrnl.c:3117: error: request for member `mtx_recurse' in something not a structure or union /usr/src/sys/compat/ndis/subr_ntoskrnl.c:3117: warning: dereferencing `void *' pointer /usr/src/sys/compat/ndis/subr_ntoskrnl.c:3117: error: request for member `mtx_lock' in something not a structure or union /usr/src/sys/compat/ndis/subr_ntoskrnl.c:3123: warning: dereferencing `void *' pointer /usr/src/sys/compat/ndis/subr_ntoskrnl.c:3123: error: request for member `mtx_recurse' in something not a structure or union /usr/src/sys/compat/ndis/subr_ntoskrnl.c:3123: warning: dereferencing `void *' pointer /usr/src/sys/compat/ndis/subr_ntoskrnl.c:3123: error: request for member `mtx_recurse' in something not a structure or union /usr/src/sys/compat/ndis/subr_ntoskrnl.c:3123: warning: dereferencing `void *' pointer /usr/src/sys/compat/ndis/subr_ntoskrnl.c:3123: error: request for member `mtx_lock' in something not a structure or union *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GATE. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/src. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/src. Building my custom Kernel without the three Lines worked wonderfull. So I have really no Idea what I can do next. Maybe here's someone how knows any step i missed, or which Problem can couse the Error. It is not very Importent for me it the ndis support runs in he kernel or as module... main issue is to get this damm card to work ;o) Maybe this might be usefull, too. Just did a cvsup for about 10 Minutes and got the same error. The only part which I added to my custom kernel config is the IPFW Part. Just some short words about FreeBSD Current. I've booted with the june snapshot and the card was detechted fine. Please don't let my stay in the rain with this Problem. ;o) Regards Tobias _______________________________________________ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" -- Open Source: by the people, for the people. 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On Jul 2, 2005, at 4:35 PM, sparxz@excite.com wrote: > > Hi > > I am a user of SUSE Linux, and I was thinking of > trying out BSD. After reading as much information > as I could about the three variants of BSD vs. > Linux. On technical merit, I was very impressed. > > FreeBSD looks like a good stating place for me, > but one think about FreeBSD makes me uncomfortable > is the symbol/emblem that the OS uses. That is a "devil" ! > > I would like to know if possible how this came about, > and what thinking was behind it. From experience, I consider > symbols to be very significant, Historically, psychologically > and even spiritually. > > Best regards > > Mark > > PS. 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From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jul 3 20:47:31 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 77ED616A41C for ; Sun, 3 Jul 2005 20:47:31 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from fbsd_user@a1poweruser.com) Received: from mta13.adelphia.net (mta13.adelphia.net [68.168.78.44]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CC76643D48 for ; Sun, 3 Jul 2005 20:47:30 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from fbsd_user@a1poweruser.com) Received: from barbish ([69.172.31.81]) by mta13.adelphia.net (InterMail vM.6.01.04.01 201-2131-118-101-20041129) with SMTP id <20050703204730.TMRZ14360.mta13.adelphia.net@barbish> for ; Sun, 3 Jul 2005 16:47:30 -0400 From: "fbsd_user" To: "freebsd-questions@FreeBSD. ORG" Date: Sun, 3 Jul 2005 16:47:24 -0400 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.6604 (9.0.2911.0) In-Reply-To: <20050703163319.58bd970c@phobos.mars.bsd> Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1409 Cc: Subject: RE: help with she script X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: fbsd_user@a1poweruser.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 03 Jul 2005 20:47:31 -0000 Thanks guys your solutions have worked and I am learning allot along the way. This is my last coding problem. target="check-state" # Find the rule number of the target rule where you want the doorman # pass rules inserted before. ruleno=`ipfw list | sed -n -e "s/00\([0-9]*\) $target/\1/p"` The output of 'ipfw list' looks like this nnnnn a 5 position sequence rule number blank followed by a empty single position x-x a 10 to 80 position rule text When the rule text matches the target text I want the first 5 position rule number to go into ruleno. Large rules files may use all 5 positions and then the above code will fail to get the rule number. Tried to remove the s/00\ but had syntax problems. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jul 3 20:59:36 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4755016A41C for ; Sun, 3 Jul 2005 20:59:36 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from vdm.fbsd@virgilio.it) Received: from vsmtp1.tin.it (vsmtp1.tin.it [212.216.176.141]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0972043D4C for ; Sun, 3 Jul 2005 20:59:35 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from vdm.fbsd@virgilio.it) Received: from [192.168.10.8] (80.116.228.240) by vsmtp1.tin.it (7.0.027) id 42C8475A00003650 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sun, 3 Jul 2005 22:59:34 +0200 From: Vittorio De Martino To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Sun, 3 Jul 2005 22:57:47 +0200 User-Agent: KMail/1.8.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200507032257.48419.vdm.fbsd@virgilio.it> Subject: Whom to report a panic to? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 03 Jul 2005 20:59:36 -0000 My (daughter's) new mp3 usb device made my laptop with the latest freebsd 5.4 freeze and show a page of panic "explaining (not to me)" what went wrong. The same mp3 reader is smoothly seen as a usb mass memory from linux on the same laptop. My question is: 1)Whom should I report the freebsd panic to? To what list? 2)What should I report? 3) is there a way to record in a file the console panic report? Ciao Vittorio From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jul 3 21:02:34 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B60F216A41C for ; Sun, 3 Jul 2005 21:02:34 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from dmitry.mityugov@gmail.com) Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.195]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7468943D53 for ; Sun, 3 Jul 2005 21:02:34 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from dmitry.mityugov@gmail.com) Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id i4so626632wra for ; Sun, 03 Jul 2005 14:02:33 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=XS+cdncH04vmi+1O6oBv1mdcffZymLVYRF5fy/bdMwaGUyovWE+aBrieXEmjJp54lwQ0eDlEfM5EGMKrQ80EGEcHv8Tq9QZg8VzIQphJ2N3BuiIVJCqIQiqoFYY6bFIBvWKQnoTq6+WHftlHtfIDyB2L9z5VrmVFAunoJsLwRZQ= Received: by 10.54.57.78 with SMTP id f78mr3096178wra; Sun, 03 Jul 2005 14:02:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.56.33 with HTTP; Sun, 3 Jul 2005 14:02:33 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Mon, 4 Jul 2005 01:02:33 +0400 From: Dmitry Mityugov To: Lane In-Reply-To: <200507031039.00022.lane@joeandlane.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline References: <20050702233548.0116B3CDB@xprdmailfe4.nwk.excite.com> <200507031011.44005.wizlayer@gmail.com> <200507031039.00022.lane@joeandlane.com> Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Linux move to FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Dmitry Mityugov List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 03 Jul 2005 21:02:34 -0000 On 7/3/05, Lane wrote: ... > It truly boggles the mind at how frequently people protest the on-going > decision to use beastie on the public face of FreeBSD. It's almost like = a > guest who comes into your home and then starts redecorating! ... I believe there was nothing in the original question that would resemble "redecorating". It was a polite question about why FreeBSD had this "feature". I am, personally, currently helping my friend to buy and configure a computer for him and his family. Although I know FreeBSD better than Linux (and this does not mean I am a FreeBSD guru), I'll be installing something like Ubuntu on that machine, not FreeBSD, because my friend and his family are religious men. --=20 Dmitry "We live less by imagination than despite it" - Rockwell Kent, "N by E" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jul 3 21:15:32 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0E88D16A41C for ; Sun, 3 Jul 2005 21:15:32 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from alejandro@varnet.biz) Received: from relay.pair.com (relay00.pair.com [209.68.1.20]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 9F1ED43D4C for ; Sun, 3 Jul 2005 21:15:31 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from alejandro@varnet.biz) Received: (qmail 28849 invoked from network); 3 Jul 2005 21:15:30 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO phobos.mars.bsd) (unknown) by unknown with SMTP; 3 Jul 2005 21:15:30 -0000 X-pair-Authenticated: 200.115.214.28 Date: Sun, 3 Jul 2005 18:17:22 -0300 From: Alejandro Pulver To: fbsd_user@a1poweruser.com Message-ID: <20050703181722.6d20fe89@phobos.mars.bsd> In-Reply-To: References: <20050703163319.58bd970c@phobos.mars.bsd> X-Mailer: Sylpheed-Claws 1.0.4 (GTK+ 1.2.10; i386-portbld-freebsd5.4) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: "freebsd-questions@FreeBSD. ORG" Subject: Re: help with she script X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 03 Jul 2005 21:15:32 -0000 On Sun, 3 Jul 2005 16:47:24 -0400 "fbsd_user" wrote: > > Thanks guys your solutions have worked and I am learning allot along > the way. > You are welcome. > This is my last coding problem. > > > target="check-state" > > # Find the rule number of the target rule where you want the doorman > # pass rules inserted before. > > ruleno=`ipfw list | sed -n -e "s/00\([0-9]*\) $target/\1/p"` > > The output of 'ipfw list' looks like this > > nnnnn a 5 position sequence rule number > blank followed by a empty single position > x-x a 10 to 80 position rule text > > > When the rule text matches the target text I want the > first 5 position rule number to go into ruleno. > > Large rules files may use all 5 positions and then > the above code will fail to get the rule number. > Tried to remove the s/00\ but had syntax problems. > Hello, I do not have ipfw, and I do not know how the rules are supposed to be, and how they have to be processed. Could you please send me some example rules, and the expected output to be assigned to "ruleno"? Thanks and Best Regards, Ale From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jul 3 21:51:08 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 32CC716A41C for ; Sun, 3 Jul 2005 21:51:08 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from TelkomSA87213@telkomsa.net) Received: from mail.telkomsa.net (ariel.telkomsa.net [196.25.211.6]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DD87643D46 for ; Sun, 3 Jul 2005 21:51:05 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from TelkomSA87213@telkomsa.net) Received: (qmail 28872 invoked from network); 3 Jul 2005 21:51:04 -0000 Received: from 196.25.69.74 by ariel.telkomsa.net (envelope-from , uid 81) with qmail-scanner-1.24 (clamdscan: 0.80/557. Clear:RC:1(196.25.69.74):. 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Processed in 0.053978 secs) Received: from unknown (HELO webmail.telkomsa.net) ([196.25.69.74]) (envelope-sender ) by O (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for ; 3 Jul 2005 21:51:04 -0000 Received: from tbnb-165-200-79.telkomadsl.co.za ([165.165.200.79]) (SquirrelMail authenticated user TelkomSA87213) by webmail.telkomsa.net with HTTP; Sun, 3 Jul 2005 23:51:03 +0200 (SAST) Message-ID: <30078.165.165.200.79.1120427463.squirrel@webmail.telkomsa.net> Date: Sun, 3 Jul 2005 23:51:03 +0200 (SAST) From: "TvZ" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.4 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 Importance: Normal Subject: Re: Linux move to FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: tvz1@telkomsa.net List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 03 Jul 2005 21:51:08 -0000 I'm religious as well and thought about connecting religion to everything connected to OS's Ok...let's see...Coming from South Africa, I could easily find a meaning Ubuntu : "I am what I am because of who we all are".(Coming from South Africa, I could easily find a meaning) thus...no greater being...just all the others input. Mandrake: MAn Dragon...according to Revolations...not good. FreeBSD : Well...the daemon ;) so...linux and bsd could be said to be "evil" or non-religious. Then we must turn to Windows... mmm... In Africa there is a place called "God's Window". We can thus not place ourselves in such a greater being's status to look out his window. At last I found one...MS-DOS. Old and no religios connectations...Apart from above mentioned Windows problem...must have been new management;) That is way I here your problem but could not clearly see the problem with any Os's. How about you install BSD and just clear the conf file which shows Beastie at startup. Tertius van Zyl ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dmitry Mityugov" To: "Lane" Cc: Sent: Sunday, July 03, 2005 11:02 PM Subject: Re: Linux move to FreeBSD On 7/3/05, Lane wrote: ... > It truly boggles the mind at how frequently people protest the on-going > decision to use beastie on the public face of FreeBSD. It's almost like a > guest who comes into your home and then starts redecorating! ... I believe there was nothing in the original question that would resemble "redecorating". It was a polite question about why FreeBSD had this "feature". I am, personally, currently helping my friend to buy and configure a computer for him and his family. Although I know FreeBSD better than Linux (and this does not mean I am a FreeBSD guru), I'll be installing something like Ubuntu on that machine, not FreeBSD, because my friend and his family are religious men. -- Dmitry "We live less by imagination than despite it" - Rockwell Kent, "N by E" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jul 3 21:57:47 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A12A716A41C for ; Sun, 3 Jul 2005 21:57:47 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from sdbrown@glycine.annular.org) Received: from glycine.annular.org (glycine.annular.org [69.17.112.116]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 50A0B43D45 for ; Sun, 3 Jul 2005 21:57:47 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from sdbrown@glycine.annular.org) Received: from glycine.annular.org (localhost.annular.org [127.0.0.1]) by glycine.annular.org (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id j63Lviho003920 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Sun, 3 Jul 2005 14:57:45 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from sdbrown@glycine.annular.org) Received: (from sdbrown@localhost) by glycine.annular.org (8.12.10/8.12.10/Submit) id j63LviPd003919 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sun, 3 Jul 2005 14:57:44 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from sdbrown) Date: Sun, 3 Jul 2005 14:57:41 -0700 From: Steve Brown To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20050703215741.GA3895@glycine.annular.org> Mail-Followup-To: Steve Brown , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <30078.165.165.200.79.1120427463.squirrel@webmail.telkomsa.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <30078.165.165.200.79.1120427463.squirrel@webmail.telkomsa.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i Subject: Re: Linux move to FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 03 Jul 2005 21:57:47 -0000 > That is way I here your problem but could not clearly see the problem with > any Os's. How about you install BSD and just clear the conf file which > shows Beastie at startup. Asking people to do something to easily remedy a situation of their own accord? Are you crazy? Steve B. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jul 3 21:59:24 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6CB9816A41C for ; Sun, 3 Jul 2005 21:59:24 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from rjhjr@cox.net) Received: from lakermmtao03.cox.net (lakermmtao03.cox.net [68.230.240.36]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D0CE143D55 for ; Sun, 3 Jul 2005 21:59:23 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from rjhjr@cox.net) Received: from localhost ([68.230.186.138]) by lakermmtao03.cox.net (InterMail vM.6.01.04.00 201-2131-118-20041027) with ESMTP id <20050703215923.BBWB18229.lakermmtao03.cox.net@localhost> for ; Sun, 3 Jul 2005 17:59:23 -0400 Date: Sun, 3 Jul 2005 17:59:22 -0400 From: Bob Hall To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20050703215922.GA9626@kongemord.krig.net> Mail-Followup-To: Bob Hall , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <20050702233548.0116B3CDB@xprdmailfe4.nwk.excite.com> <200507031011.44005.wizlayer@gmail.com> <200507031039.00022.lane@joeandlane.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Subject: Re: Linux move to FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 03 Jul 2005 21:59:24 -0000 On Mon, Jul 04, 2005 at 01:02:33AM +0400, Dmitry Mityugov wrote: > I am, personally, currently helping my friend to buy and configure a > computer for him and his family. Although I know FreeBSD better than > Linux (and this does not mean I am a FreeBSD guru), I'll be installing > something like Ubuntu on that machine, not FreeBSD, because my friend > and his family are religious men. There are plenty of devout Christians using FreeBSD without any problem. The belief that guys with red skin, horns, pointy tails, and pitchforks represent the devil is a European superstition, not a Christian doctrine. There's no support for it in the Bible or the writings of the church fathers. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jul 3 21:59:49 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5938E16A41C for ; Sun, 3 Jul 2005 21:59:49 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from lorenl@alzatex.com) Received: from hosea.tallye.com (joel.tallye.com [216.99.199.78]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EF97F43D45 for ; Sun, 3 Jul 2005 21:59:48 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from lorenl@alzatex.com) Received: from hosea.tallye.com (hosea.tallye.com [127.0.0.1]) by hosea.tallye.com (8.12.8/8.12.10) with ESMTP id j63Lxl6j026427 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Sun, 3 Jul 2005 14:59:47 -0700 Received: (from sttng359@localhost) by hosea.tallye.com (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id j63Lxlvi026425 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sun, 3 Jul 2005 14:59:47 -0700 Date: Sun, 3 Jul 2005 14:59:47 -0700 From: "Loren M. Lang" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20050703215947.GA26357@alzatex.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="vtzGhvizbBRQ85DL" Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i X-GPG-Key: ftp://ftp.tallye.com/pub/lorenl_pubkey.asc X-GPG-Fingerprint: B3B9 D669 69C9 09EC 1BCD 835A FAF3 7A46 E4A3 280C X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV version 0.85.1, clamav-milter version 0.85 on hosea.tallye.com X-Virus-Status: Clean Subject: /var superblock mismatches first alternate X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 03 Jul 2005 21:59:49 -0000 --vtzGhvizbBRQ85DL Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Twice while ripping a particular music cd with grip, my system paniced when it hit track 9. 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Public Key: ftp://ftp.tallye.com/pub/lorenl_pubkey.asc Fingerprint: CEE1 AAE2 F66C 59B5 34CA C415 6D35 E847 0118 A3D2 =20 --vtzGhvizbBRQ85DL Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFCyF/TbTXoRwEYo9IRAkN7AJ4ofzH64VEth3EDLUjDZcshLWP6GQCfTfzY ZlV4xpUZLwooYkVX3Ll7yGE= =jq9B -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --vtzGhvizbBRQ85DL-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jul 3 22:19:14 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4BA0F16A41C for ; Sun, 3 Jul 2005 22:19:14 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from alan.curtis@gmail.com) Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.200]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 094FE43D49 for ; Sun, 3 Jul 2005 22:19:13 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from alan.curtis@gmail.com) Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id i4so633394wra for ; Sun, 03 Jul 2005 15:19:13 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:content-type:message-id:content-transfer-encoding:from:subject:date:to:x-mailer; b=UVDaCpyPWJwCpMLUqNlHzDx79iYNrCAE5bw4DNc+sH57AJZmsNj8iIMpOc0EOxsWr4DRf76ptAbQomwP5Ers6QH9uaqZ6/DBsgfAzL1i0mX9B+/plFz5kdSezuDWollgxg6PSeYcRGigT6XD8zs5SKh5wxA/ao0KCuIZDEv7PuQ= Received: by 10.54.11.25 with SMTP id 25mr3164569wrk; Sun, 03 Jul 2005 15:12:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ?192.168.1.102? ([151.203.107.66]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id 13sm3159262wrl.2005.07.03.15.12.09; Sun, 03 Jul 2005 15:12:10 -0700 (PDT) Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v730) In-Reply-To: <20050703201741.GA2852@asterix.bsdserved.de> References: <28EDBC57-9AE6-4D8B-9BA5-F8445C71600F@gmail.com> <20050703201741.GA2852@asterix.bsdserved.de> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Alan Curtis Date: Sun, 3 Jul 2005 18:12:02 -0400 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.730) Subject: Re: DNS setup X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 03 Jul 2005 22:19:14 -0000 On Jul 3, 2005, at 4:17 PM, Leon Messner wrote: > On Sun, Jul 03, 2005 at 11:07:41AM -0400, Alan Curtis wrote: > >> I am running FreeBSD 5.3-STABLE behind a Linksys Wireless Access >> Point and Firewall and a DSL modem. My ISP assigns me a dynamic IP >> address which changes on a regular basis and the root domain and >> Domain Name Servers associated with that domain also change. I have >> seen at least 3 different root domains. >> >> I have a number of machines on my wireless network and I would like >> them to be able to find one another. To do this I have assigned them >> fixed IP addresses. >> >> My problem how to assign the Domain Name Servers for all the >> machines. I point them all at the Linksys, which seems to work most >> of the time, but occasionally network traffic gets really slow and I >> suspect that its a DNS problem. >> >> Can I set up something on my FreeBSD server to help solve this >> problem? >> >> Alan >> > > Hi, > if you're looking for a application serving you DNS look at > http://cr.yp.to/djbdns.html for HowTo's and software. I use it for a > similar setup as you have and also you can win $500 if you find the > first security hole in the latest releases. > I tried following the instructions at http://cr.yp.to/djbdns/run- cache-x.html. Got as far as > 5. As root, tell svscan about the new service, and use svstat to > check that the service is up: > > ln -s /etc/dnscache /service > sleep 5 > svstat /service/dnscache and was told ... /service/dnscache: unable to chdir: file does not exist Alan From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jul 3 22:23:40 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8451B16A41C for ; Sun, 3 Jul 2005 22:23:40 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from alan.curtis@gmail.com) Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.205]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2FC2843D49 for ; Sun, 3 Jul 2005 22:23:40 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from alan.curtis@gmail.com) Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id i4so633762wra for ; Sun, 03 Jul 2005 15:23:38 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:content-type:message-id:content-transfer-encoding:from:subject:date:to:x-mailer; b=Px3y6y4XYrQ1TXRYV+D2Gn0OsU9VydgwUplF+BFIp4ltGKaqr3azo3i39G5cnuwy1sYca1aTl2Qk6jVOKaQrztJAAyfjr6CooYgHVF/Tj2LMLzZ9OdtBFz6y3N5wzpLHVlHIVzBKLRhKN9JPXsI5Tpi+u96lur+VlCnR54eacB8= Received: by 10.54.27.45 with SMTP id a45mr3128207wra; Sun, 03 Jul 2005 15:23:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ?192.168.1.102? ([151.203.107.66]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id 12sm3196279wrl.2005.07.03.15.23.38; Sun, 03 Jul 2005 15:23:38 -0700 (PDT) Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v730) In-Reply-To: <20050703125754.53452296@phobos.mars.bsd> References: <28EDBC57-9AE6-4D8B-9BA5-F8445C71600F@gmail.com> <20050703125754.53452296@phobos.mars.bsd> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Alan Curtis Date: Sun, 3 Jul 2005 18:23:31 -0400 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.730) Subject: Re: DNS setup X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 03 Jul 2005 22:23:40 -0000 On Jul 3, 2005, at 11:57 AM, Alejandro Pulver wrote: > On Sun, 3 Jul 2005 11:07:41 -0400 > Alan Curtis wrote: > > >> I am running FreeBSD 5.3-STABLE behind a Linksys Wireless Access >> Point and Firewall and a DSL modem. My ISP assigns me a dynamic IP >> address which changes on a regular basis and the root domain and >> Domain Name Servers associated with that domain also change. I have >> seen at least 3 different root domains. >> >> I have a number of machines on my wireless network and I would like >> them to be able to find one another. To do this I have assigned them >> fixed IP addresses. >> >> My problem how to assign the Domain Name Servers for all the >> machines. I point them all at the Linksys, which seems to work most >> of the time, but occasionally network traffic gets really slow and I >> suspect that its a DNS problem. >> >> Can I set up something on my FreeBSD server to help solve this >> problem? >> >> Alan >> >> > > Hello, > > If you think the problem is on your ISP DNS servers, you have two > alternatives: > > 1) Set up a local DNS server on all the machines of the network. > > 2) Set up a DNS server on one machine, that answers queries to all the > machines of the network. > > If you want more detailed information about them (like how to set them > up), ask me. > I do need some clear instructions. I tried djbdns without success (see another post) and also the instructions under 'Domain Name System (DNS)' in the FreeBSD Handbook. I added named_enable="YES" to /etc/rc.conf. Used the default configuration file without any zone (as suggested in the Handbook). There is no 'ndc' on my machine. I assume I must use 'rndc' instead. Ran 'rndc start' and was told rndc: connect failed: connection refused Saw nothing in /var/log/messages or /var/log/console.log Alan From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jul 3 22:24:51 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BDA4B16A41C for ; Sun, 3 Jul 2005 22:24:51 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: from nic.ach.sch.gr (nic.sch.gr [194.63.238.4]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E2FF143D45 for ; Sun, 3 Jul 2005 22:24:49 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: (qmail 23134 invoked by uid 207); 3 Jul 2005 22:24:48 -0000 Received: from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr by nic by uid 201 with qmail-scanner-1.21 (sophie: 3.04/2.19/3.81. Clear:RC:1(81.186.70.211):. Processed in 0.283236 secs); 03 Jul 2005 22:24:48 -0000 Received: from dialup211.ach.sch.gr (HELO gothmog.gr) ([81.186.70.211]) (envelope-sender ) by nic.sch.gr (qmail-ldap-1.03) with DES-CBC3-SHA encrypted SMTP for ; 3 Jul 2005 22:24:47 -0000 Received: from gothmog.gr (gothmog [127.0.0.1]) by gothmog.gr (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id j63JuFkF043450; Sun, 3 Jul 2005 22:56:15 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: (from giorgos@localhost) by gothmog.gr (8.13.4/8.13.4/Submit) id j63JuFSu043449; Sun, 3 Jul 2005 22:56:15 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Date: Sun, 3 Jul 2005 22:56:15 +0300 From: Giorgos Keramidas To: fbsd_user Message-ID: <20050703195615.GA43273@gothmog.gr> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: help with sh script X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 03 Jul 2005 22:24:51 -0000 On 2005-07-03 09:39, fbsd_user wrote: > What is the sh coding to strip the periods from a IP address?? > > raw_ip='10.0.10.5' this is starting > num_ip='100105' and this is what I need to convert to. There are many ways: echo "${raw_ip}" | sed -e 's/\.//g' echo "${raw_ip}" | perl -pe 's/\.//g' echo "${raw_ip}" | awk -F. '{gsub("\\.", ""); print}' From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jul 3 23:00:08 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B243416A41C for ; Sun, 3 Jul 2005 23:00:08 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from alejandro@varnet.biz) Received: from relay03.pair.com (relay03.pair.com [209.68.5.17]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 5B13043D45 for ; Sun, 3 Jul 2005 23:00:07 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from alejandro@varnet.biz) Received: (qmail 5896 invoked from network); 3 Jul 2005 23:00:06 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO phobos.mars.bsd) (unknown) by unknown with SMTP; 3 Jul 2005 23:00:06 -0000 X-pair-Authenticated: 200.115.214.28 Date: Sun, 3 Jul 2005 20:01:56 -0300 From: Alejandro Pulver To: Alan Curtis Message-ID: <20050703200156.52602591@phobos.mars.bsd> In-Reply-To: References: <28EDBC57-9AE6-4D8B-9BA5-F8445C71600F@gmail.com> <20050703125754.53452296@phobos.mars.bsd> X-Mailer: Sylpheed-Claws 1.0.4 (GTK+ 1.2.10; i386-portbld-freebsd5.4) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: DNS setup X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 03 Jul 2005 23:00:08 -0000 On Sun, 3 Jul 2005 18:23:31 -0400 Alan Curtis wrote: > > On Jul 3, 2005, at 11:57 AM, Alejandro Pulver wrote: > > > On Sun, 3 Jul 2005 11:07:41 -0400 > > Alan Curtis wrote: > > > > > >> I am running FreeBSD 5.3-STABLE behind a Linksys Wireless Access > >> Point and Firewall and a DSL modem. My ISP assigns me a dynamic IP > >> address which changes on a regular basis and the root domain and > >> Domain Name Servers associated with that domain also change. I have > >> seen at least 3 different root domains. > >> > >> I have a number of machines on my wireless network and I would like > >> them to be able to find one another. To do this I have assigned > >them > fixed IP addresses. > >> > >> My problem how to assign the Domain Name Servers for all the > >> machines. I point them all at the Linksys, which seems to work most > >> of the time, but occasionally network traffic gets really slow and > >I > suspect that its a DNS problem. > >> > >> Can I set up something on my FreeBSD server to help solve this > >> problem? > >> > >> Alan > >> > >> > > > > Hello, > > > > If you think the problem is on your ISP DNS servers, you have two > > alternatives: > > > > 1) Set up a local DNS server on all the machines of the network. > > > > 2) Set up a DNS server on one machine, that answers queries to all > > the > > machines of the network. > > > > If you want more detailed information about them (like how to set > > them up), ask me. > > > > I do need some clear instructions. I tried djbdns without success > (see another post) and also the instructions under 'Domain Name > System (DNS)' in the FreeBSD Handbook. > > I added named_enable="YES" to /etc/rc.conf. Used the default > configuration file without any zone (as suggested in the Handbook). > There is no 'ndc' on my machine. I assume I must use 'rndc' instead. > Ran 'rndc start' and was told > > rndc: connect failed: connection refused > > Saw nothing in /var/log/messages or /var/log/console.log > > Alan > Hello, You need to run "rndc-confgen", and save the output in a temporary file. Then you have to look at it: there is one part to be put to "/etc/namedb/named.conf" and the other to "/etc/namedb/rndc.conf". Example: % rndc-confgen ===== add to /etc/namedb/rndc.conf ===== # Start of rndc.conf key "rndc-key" { algorithm hmac-md5; secret "zCgi4/rmS+O0ZENRWk22SQ=="; }; options { default-key "rndc-key"; default-server 127.0.0.1; default-port 953; }; # End of rndc.conf ===== add to /etc/namedb/named.conf ===== # Use with the following in named.conf, adjusting the allow list as needed: # key "rndc-key" { # algorithm hmac-md5; # secret "zCgi4/rmS+O0ZENRWk22SQ=="; # }; # # controls { # inet 127.0.0.1 port 953 # allow { 127.0.0.1; } keys { "rndc-key"; }; # }; # End of named.conf IIRC before FreeBSD 5.4 there was a "ndc" (like rndc, but only local and did not need setup). The "rndc" is for remote control (however it can also be used as local with the loopback address 127.0.0.1). The key is randomly generated (automatically), and it has to match in the two files. After that the connection will be allowed (however the "start" command does not exist, you have to start it manually - "named" - and then you can control it with rndc). The file rndc.conf has to be placed on the machine you want to control the name server from. But if it is not the same machine that runs the name server, you have to put its IP address instead of 127.0.0.1. The "inet" statements in named.conf specifies the IP address the name server will listen (for rndc). You will have to put here the IP address of the machine (and the localhost to be controled locally) in the network to be controlled from other machines. The "allow" statement in named.conf specifies from which hosts you can (remotely) control the name server. The address 127.0.0.1 is the loopback (internal address), but you can add the IP address of other machines too (note that they need the rndc.conf file set appropiately). If you have questions about this ask me. If you want examples I can provide you some. Then let me know if you want option 1) or 2) so I can help you with the next step. 1) Have an independent DNS server on each machine (there is one for Windows called TreeWalk - free -, that is the same as named). 2) Put a DNS server on *one* machine, and that DNS server is used by all the machines on the network. Hope that Helps. Best Regards, Ale From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jul 3 23:24:30 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C802716A41C for ; Sun, 3 Jul 2005 23:24:30 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from dmitry.mityugov@gmail.com) Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.204]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 60E0243D45 for ; Sun, 3 Jul 2005 23:24:30 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from dmitry.mityugov@gmail.com) Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 36so626649wra for ; Sun, 03 Jul 2005 16:24:29 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=RX/S2aQIfHDMIzUUiuhwLUVzNNi1Ih0sM+4meOfwOFk8L05B1ybkx1ZnPw7ASaK0XSjFnr7HZlHYAgmQSUgErW0KK/05LK98UKziVcECTUVkzlo+r4xbuKaqlCoLHN7mmIlYAw388Cw8FZjD+uB+YE+7nf4KUnzFYnSjhE61Kv4= Received: by 10.54.8.51 with SMTP id 51mr1244486wrh; Sun, 03 Jul 2005 15:26:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.56.33 with HTTP; Sun, 3 Jul 2005 15:26:39 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Mon, 4 Jul 2005 02:26:39 +0400 From: Dmitry Mityugov To: Bob Hall , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <20050703215922.GA9626@kongemord.krig.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline References: <20050702233548.0116B3CDB@xprdmailfe4.nwk.excite.com> <200507031011.44005.wizlayer@gmail.com> <200507031039.00022.lane@joeandlane.com> <20050703215922.GA9626@kongemord.krig.net> Cc: Subject: Re: Linux move to FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Dmitry Mityugov List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 03 Jul 2005 23:24:30 -0000 On 7/4/05, Bob Hall wrote: > On Mon, Jul 04, 2005 at 01:02:33AM +0400, Dmitry Mityugov wrote: > > I am, personally, currently helping my friend to buy and configure a > > computer for him and his family. Although I know FreeBSD better than > > Linux (and this does not mean I am a FreeBSD guru), I'll be installing > > something like Ubuntu on that machine, not FreeBSD, because my friend > > and his family are religious men. >=20 > There are plenty of devout Christians using FreeBSD without any problem. > The belief that guys with red skin, horns, pointy tails, and pitchforks > represent the devil is a European superstition, not a Christian > doctrine. There's no support for it in the Bible or the writings of the > church fathers. The problem is, my friend lives closer to Europe than to anything else, and I don't want to dispute with him about what's right and wrong in his believings. In addition, both "demon" and "daemon" are translated to the same word in our language, that would make the task of explaining the difference to him even less attractive to me. BTW, it's not only a European superstition, as this story indicates: http://rmitz.org/freebsd.daemon.html (that was the first link from many). --=20 Dmitry "We live less by imagination than despite it" - Rockwell Kent, "N by E" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jul 3 23:48:50 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5A3EE16A41C for ; Sun, 3 Jul 2005 23:48:50 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from danny@ricin.com) Received: from smtpq1.home.nl (smtpq1.home.nl [213.51.128.196]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DDA3343D46 for ; Sun, 3 Jul 2005 23:48:49 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from danny@ricin.com) Received: from [213.51.128.136] (port=38593 helo=smtp5.home.nl) by smtpq1.home.nl with esmtp (Exim 4.30) id 1DpECe-0002jK-3D for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 04 Jul 2005 01:48:48 +0200 Received: from cp464173-a.dbsch1.nb.home.nl ([84.27.215.228]:64109 helo=desktop.homenet) by smtp5.home.nl with esmtp (Exim 4.30) id 1DpECc-0004JZ-Ul for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 04 Jul 2005 01:48:46 +0200 Resent-From: Danny Pansters Resent-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Resent-Date: Mon, 4 Jul 2005 01:47:16 +0200 Resent-Message-ID: <200507040147.16409.danny@ricin.com> From: Danny Pansters To: Dmitry Mityugov Date: Mon, 4 Jul 2005 01:45:52 +0200 User-Agent: KMail/1.8 References: <20050702233548.0116B3CDB@xprdmailfe4.nwk.excite.com> <200507031039.00022.lane@joeandlane.com> In-Reply-To: X-Face: "0Qv=,p:+]LvuqrtS4U\z3k"qN=.1]@=?utf-8?q?=258=3F=3BPoab=23v=27F=7E=0A=09!Wm=5Fe-=24=7EL=5D=3B?=>[c*L^Qoladj)x@mH}Bqz"vLO?Zdl}[@V@=?utf-8?q?U=3Fx3=23lI=3A=0A=09=24DN=7E!Hr?=@K`-mNv"zXm MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200507040145.52889.danny@ricin.com> X-AtHome-MailScanner-Information: Please contact support@home.nl for more information X-AtHome-MailScanner: Found to be clean Cc: Subject: Re: Linux move to FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 03 Jul 2005 23:48:50 -0000 On Sunday 3 July 2005 23:02, Dmitry Mityugov wrote: > On 7/3/05, Lane wrote: > ... > > > It truly boggles the mind at how frequently people protest the on-going > > decision to use beastie on the public face of FreeBSD. It's almost like > > a guest who comes into your home and then starts redecorating! > > ... > > I believe there was nothing in the original question that would > resemble "redecorating". It was a polite question about why FreeBSD > had this "feature". Yeah but he's right nonetheless. > I am, personally, currently helping my friend to buy and configure a > computer for him and his family. Although I know FreeBSD better than > Linux (and this does not mean I am a FreeBSD guru), I'll be installing > something like Ubuntu on that machine, not FreeBSD, because my friend > and his family are religious men. I know I shouldn't get into this thread, but really this kind of thing absolutely disgustes me. What if they want an all-white OS would you also consider that? Or a non-queer one perhaps. Oh, they already want that I reckon. "But that's not the same"??? Well, it bloody is to me. It's JUST as dumb. Educate them instead of bending over. I'm sick of the flat earth anti-Darwin basket cases telling us what to do. It's not their realm. They should learn that not everything is their realm. Our world is about tech and that's not NOT about politics and certainly not about superstition, uhm, I mean religion. And I'd like to make a plea to the project to not give in to that in any way. But I fear they already did. And one can argue back and forth but the logo contest *was* partly or perhaps wholly fuelled by that. Don't give me crap. Same with Net (they managed to get a nice logo as their new one, I like it visulually, but any and all symbolism is gone. It looks like a flag). For optimum popularity perhaps ours should have lots of red white and blue but no horns or sneakers. Except if they have a swoosh. Ahh, feels good to get that off my chest. Now you can flame along :) Greetings, Dan From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jul 3 23:51:17 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CBB9516A41C for ; Sun, 3 Jul 2005 23:51:17 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from danny@ricin.com) Received: from smtpq3.home.nl (smtpq3.home.nl [213.51.128.198]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5C0BC43D45 for ; Sun, 3 Jul 2005 23:51:17 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from danny@ricin.com) Received: from [213.51.128.132] (port=35632 helo=smtp1.home.nl) by smtpq3.home.nl with esmtp (Exim 4.30) id 1DpEF2-0003rQ-3G for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 04 Jul 2005 01:51:16 +0200 Received: from cp464173-a.dbsch1.nb.home.nl ([84.27.215.228]:59852 helo=desktop.homenet) by smtp1.home.nl with esmtp (Exim 4.30) id 1DpEF0-00089Q-FH for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 04 Jul 2005 01:51:14 +0200 From: Danny Pansters To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org User-Agent: KMail/1.8 References: <20050702233548.0116B3CDB@xprdmailfe4.nwk.excite.com> <200507031039.00022.lane@joeandlane.com> In-Reply-To: X-Face: "0Qv=,p:+]LvuqrtS4U\z3k"qN=.1]@=?iso-8859-1?q?=258=3F=3BPoab=23v=27F=7E=0A=09!Wm=5Fe-=24=7EL=5D=3B?=>[c*L^Qoladj)x@mH}Bqz"vLO?Zdl}[@V@=?iso-8859-1?q?U=3Fx3=23lI=3A=0A=09=24DN=7E!Hr?=@K`-mNv"zXm MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline Date: Mon, 4 Jul 2005 01:49:43 +0200 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <200507040149.43852.danny@ricin.com> X-AtHome-MailScanner-Information: Please contact support@home.nl for more information X-AtHome-MailScanner: Found to be clean Subject: Re: Linux move to FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 03 Jul 2005 23:51:18 -0000 On Sunday 3 July 2005 23:02, Dmitry Mityugov wrote: > On 7/3/05, Lane wrote: > ... > > > It truly boggles the mind at how frequently people protest the on-going > > decision to use beastie on the public face of FreeBSD. It's almost like > > a guest who comes into your home and then starts redecorating! > > ... > > I believe there was nothing in the original question that would > resemble "redecorating". It was a polite question about why FreeBSD > had this "feature". Yeah but he's right nonetheless. > I am, personally, currently helping my friend to buy and configure a > computer for him and his family. Although I know FreeBSD better than > Linux (and this does not mean I am a FreeBSD guru), I'll be installing > something like Ubuntu on that machine, not FreeBSD, because my friend > and his family are religious men. I know I shouldn't get into this thread, but really this kind of thing absolutely disgustes me. What if they want an all-white OS would you also consider that? Or a non-queer one perhaps. Oh, they already want that I reckon. "But that's not the same"??? Well, it bloody is to me. It's JUST as dumb. Educate them instead of bending over. I'm sick of the flat earth anti-Darwin basket cases telling us what to do. It's not their realm. They should learn that not everything is their realm. Our world is about tech and that's not NOT about politics and certainly not about superstition, uhm, I mean religion. And I'd like to make a plea to the project to not give in to that in any way. But I fear they already did. And one can argue back and forth but the logo contest *was* partly or perhaps wholly fuelled by that. Don't give me crap. Same with Net (they managed to get a nice logo as their new one, I like it visulually, but any and all symbolism is gone. It looks like a flag). For optimum popularity perhaps ours should have lots of red white and blue but no horns or sneakers. Except if they have a swoosh. Ahh, feels good to get that off my chest. Now you can flame along :) Greetings, Dan From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jul 4 00:05:29 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 124CA16A41C for ; Mon, 4 Jul 2005 00:05:29 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from mabego@gmail.com) Received: from rproxy.gmail.com (rproxy.gmail.com [64.233.170.203]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C986243D46 for ; Mon, 4 Jul 2005 00:05:28 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from mabego@gmail.com) Received: by rproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id r35so593640rna for ; Sun, 03 Jul 2005 17:05:28 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=XJMzNOdqJDU+DN9raymr94D5CAfVVQQM36hRk0LnquZGpNfLDsJepyRTZAKDE/7SJPSDR9qyYB+Tg1CnN1nua7jGtxrWKJ/eyGhgvOAPDmtGKleVb8/vOnU6n06/EIrwQHw6qS3R2/yEphEfpb3Eex40orZwPqLNSK6a6eSX5Wg= Received: by 10.38.98.60 with SMTP id v60mr2596122rnb; Sun, 03 Jul 2005 17:05:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.38.10.3 with HTTP; Sun, 3 Jul 2005 17:05:28 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <8b1333005070317051143f100@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sun, 3 Jul 2005 17:05:28 -0700 From: Matthew To: javier.mendoza@lufussa.com In-Reply-To: <20050703025429.39763.qmail@web50103.mail.yahoo.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline References: <20050703025429.39763.qmail@web50103.mail.yahoo.com> Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD/Fedora Core 3/Windows XP X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Matthew List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 04 Jul 2005 00:05:29 -0000 On 7/2/05, Javier Ivan Mendoza wrote: > I have installed Windows Xp and Fedora Core 3 on the > same hard drive, in another drive is FreeBSD, after > FreeBSD 5.3 installation, GNU/GRUB boot loader does > not work with FreeBSD; according to the GRUB manual > the following sholud work >=20 > # For booting FreeBSD > title FreeBSD 5.3 > root (hda1,2,c) > kernel boot/loader/ Try: rootnoverify (hd1,2,c) chainloader +1 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jul 4 00:22:00 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2CA1E16A41C for ; Mon, 4 Jul 2005 00:22:00 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from alan.curtis@gmail.com) Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.202]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DC08143D46 for ; Mon, 4 Jul 2005 00:21:59 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from alan.curtis@gmail.com) Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id i4so643610wra for ; Sun, 03 Jul 2005 17:21:59 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:in-reply-to:references:mime-version:content-type:message-id:cc:content-transfer-encoding:from:subject:date:to:x-mailer; b=PWeNIBlE4Iyp1m4SzUPdqzvDQNEQ7JxvuuqLLTCqO0Pb0l3sf+wmr2ZY3tLUzEBJnEt8rdI6GD43/ORDe+SCctu8YGOzjTcIK33u2mKsCkCSUIklLbp7gEzUZGpn1LgOkie38680PpSLbQVInvMlCDdaYH/OPRhQ66fEZNYWaFk= Received: by 10.54.27.45 with SMTP id a45mr3177849wra; Sun, 03 Jul 2005 17:21:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ?192.168.1.102? ([151.203.107.66]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id g2sm2436677wra.2005.07.03.17.21.58; Sun, 03 Jul 2005 17:21:59 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <20050703200156.52602591@phobos.mars.bsd> References: <28EDBC57-9AE6-4D8B-9BA5-F8445C71600F@gmail.com> <20050703125754.53452296@phobos.mars.bsd> <20050703200156.52602591@phobos.mars.bsd> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v730) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Alan Curtis Date: Sun, 3 Jul 2005 20:21:51 -0400 To: Alejandro Pulver X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.730) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: DNS setup X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 04 Jul 2005 00:22:00 -0000 On Jul 3, 2005, at 7:01 PM, Alejandro Pulver wrote: > If you want examples I can provide you some. > > Then let me know if you want option 1) or 2) so I can help you with > the > next step. > > 1) Have an independent DNS server on each machine (there is one for > Windows called TreeWalk - free -, that is the same as named). > > 2) Put a DNS server on *one* machine, and that DNS server is used > by all > the machines on the network. > I would like to implement 2. Thanks for your help. Alan From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jul 4 00:54:07 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5037416A41C for ; Mon, 4 Jul 2005 00:54:07 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ken@idealinter.net) Received: from mail.idealinter.net (mail.idealinter.net [72.242.8.4]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2075043D45 for ; Mon, 4 Jul 2005 00:54:06 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ken@idealinter.net) Received: from [192.168.0.2] (unknown [72.242.8.254]) (using TLSv1 with cipher RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.idealinter.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 49F8710E42C; Sun, 3 Jul 2005 20:54:06 -0400 (EDT) In-Reply-To: References: <28EDBC57-9AE6-4D8B-9BA5-F8445C71600F@gmail.com> <20050703125754.53452296@phobos.mars.bsd> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v730) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Ken Ebling Date: Sun, 3 Jul 2005 20:54:05 -0400 To: Alan Curtis X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.730) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: DNS setup X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 04 Jul 2005 00:54:07 -0000 On Jul 3, 2005, at 6:23 PM, Alan Curtis wrote: > > I do need some clear instructions. I tried djbdns without success > (see another post) and also the instructions under 'Domain Name > System (DNS)' in the FreeBSD Handbook. > > I added named_enable="YES" to /etc/rc.conf. Used the default > configuration file without any zone (as suggested in the Handbook). > There is no 'ndc' on my machine. I assume I must use 'rndc' > instead. Ran 'rndc start' and was told > > rndc: connect failed: connection refused > > Saw nothing in /var/log/messages or /var/log/console.log > > Alan On FreeBSD 5.x, I use "/etc/rc.d/named {start | stop | restart}" for controlling BIND. Ken Ebling From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jul 4 01:20:11 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3126016A41F for ; Mon, 4 Jul 2005 01:20:11 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ken@idealinter.net) Received: from mail.idealinter.net (mail.idealinter.net [72.242.8.4]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F2EA543D48 for ; Mon, 4 Jul 2005 01:20:10 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ken@idealinter.net) Received: from [192.168.0.2] (unknown [72.242.8.254]) (using TLSv1 with cipher RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.idealinter.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5750C10E42C; Sun, 3 Jul 2005 21:20:10 -0400 (EDT) In-Reply-To: References: <28EDBC57-9AE6-4D8B-9BA5-F8445C71600F@gmail.com> <20050703125754.53452296@phobos.mars.bsd> <20050703200156.52602591@phobos.mars.bsd> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v730) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: <1F4B89A9-C671-43C1-89DE-405F76F20E2F@idealinter.net> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Ken Ebling Date: Sun, 3 Jul 2005 21:20:09 -0400 To: Alan Curtis X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.730) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: DNS setup X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 04 Jul 2005 01:20:11 -0000 On Jul 3, 2005, at 8:21 PM, Alan Curtis wrote: > > On Jul 3, 2005, at 7:01 PM, Alejandro Pulver wrote: > > >> If you want examples I can provide you some. >> >> Then let me know if you want option 1) or 2) so I can help you >> with the >> next step. >> >> 1) Have an independent DNS server on each machine (there is one for >> Windows called TreeWalk - free -, that is the same as named). >> >> 2) Put a DNS server on *one* machine, and that DNS server is used >> by all >> the machines on the network. >> >> > > I would like to implement 2. > > Thanks for your help. > > Alan It's pretty easy to get working on FreeBSD 5.3. This is how I'd do it: 1) cd /etc/named 2) sh make-localhost 3) echo "named_enable=\"YES\"" >> /etc/rc.conf (note two double quotes after "YES\" and two ">") 4) edit /etc/namedb/named.conf to suit your needs. (you'll probably need to change the "listen-on" directive to add the IP address of your machine, because it's defaulted to 127.0.0.1, which means bind won't be listening on the network interface.) 5) /etc/rc.d/named start That's it. Now your machines can be configured to use that system as their primary name server. You may still want to do some things, like disallow other people from using your name servers, by only enabling "recursion" for your machines. You can find detailed instructions on configuring recursion here: http://www.netadmintools.com/art234.html Ken Ebling From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jul 4 02:28:20 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A084616A41C for ; Mon, 4 Jul 2005 02:28:20 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from bruce_baldy@yahoo.com) Received: from web32815.mail.mud.yahoo.com (web32815.mail.mud.yahoo.com [68.142.206.45]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 5E1A543D45 for ; Mon, 4 Jul 2005 02:28:20 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from bruce_baldy@yahoo.com) Received: (qmail 58328 invoked by uid 60001); 4 Jul 2005 02:28:19 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=xGZtCrfZiTCMUeOR6a2S6lA0XkNqZz4ftkk4xqG7Hkr/5OiG8rBqL5m37YiA4HvBSnx+m6re+lTD/PixybShYKeaD6N1KrlgyPM19qnEM8syU7F6lJRJ3AlBDFiFuAltqp2TbCB8ZHEB8vBfo2mM1uI14f+rNIXK+8FecFF4+Qo= ; Message-ID: <20050704022819.58326.qmail@web32815.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Received: from [66.52.53.13] by web32815.mail.mud.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sun, 03 Jul 2005 19:28:19 PDT Date: Sun, 3 Jul 2005 19:28:19 -0700 (PDT) From: bruce baldy To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: Subject: installing ports/permission denied X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 04 Jul 2005 02:28:20 -0000 as root I continually receive permission denied when attempting to veiw ports collection.When I try to install again it says cannot find.I try using commands in the handbook very few of which are found by system.My version is 5.3 with total port collection(supposedly installed,the install sreen showed many packages of files loading into machine ) I been into sysinstall on several occasions,this not for quitters,I can tell.I open one xterm as usr and root or rather a few on one virtual screen(only one virtual screen-dont need more,now).I have handbook on cd running on other machine,how do I do connect to net to updte files?Am going to try to customize the kernel mod for vid driver etc,see if that remedies some things. --------------------------------- Yahoo! Sports Rekindle the Rivalries. Sign up for Fantasy Football From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jul 4 03:25:02 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AA0DC16A41F for ; Mon, 4 Jul 2005 03:25:02 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from markzero@logik.ath.cx) Received: from addr9.addr.com (addr9.addr.com [209.249.147.40]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2A86343D46 for ; Mon, 4 Jul 2005 03:25:00 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from markzero@logik.ath.cx) Received: from logik.ath.cx (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by addr9.addr.com (8.12.11/8.12.8/Submit) with ESMTP id j643OtoN030627; Sun, 3 Jul 2005 20:24:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: by logik.ath.cx (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 6744D651B; Mon, 4 Jul 2005 04:24:55 +0100 (BST) Date: Mon, 4 Jul 2005 04:24:55 +0100 From: markzero To: "Anthony M. Agelastos" Message-ID: <20050704032455.GA76514@logik.ath.cx> References: <20050630001004.GA60781@logik.ath.cx> <42C3BB88.60609@dial.pipex.com> <42C73D17.3080208@dial.pipex.com> <20050703182218.GB79411@logik.ath.cx> <5095AEAE-708B-4936-873C-5B932EF75FB6@gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha512; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="r5Pyd7+fXNt84Ff3" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <5095AEAE-708B-4936-873C-5B932EF75FB6@gmail.com> X-GPG-Key: http://darklogik.org/pub/pgp/pgp.txt X-Fingerprint: B776 43DC 8A5D EAF9 2126 9A67 A7DA 390F DEFF 9DD1 X-ADDRSpamFilter: Passed, probability (10%) X-ADDRSignature: 5D21F355 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: NVIDIA TNT2 woes X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 04 Jul 2005 03:25:02 -0000 --r5Pyd7+fXNt84Ff3 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sun, Jul 03, 2005 at 10:53:43PM -0400, Anthony M. Agelastos wrote: >=20 > glxgears works for you with the nv driver? I cannot get it to work =20 > for me (I have a RIVA TNT as opposed to your RIVA TNT 2). Could you =20 > post your xorg.conf? I have the line Load "glx" in the "Module" =20 > Section. Perhaps the nv driver works much better than for the TNT 2 =20 > as opposed to the TNT? Thank you for your help and thank you to the =20 > whole list for the support and replies. > $ uname -smr FreeBSD 5.4-RELEASE-p2 i386 $ X -version X Window System Version 6.8.2 Release Date: 9 February 2005 X Protocol Version 11, Revision 0, Release 6.8.2 Build Operating System: FreeBSD 5.4 i386 [ELF]=20 Current Operating System: FreeBSD xxx.xxx.xxx 5.4-RELEASE-p2 FreeBSD 5.4-RELEASE-p2 #1: Sun Jun 12 16:17:58 BST 2005 root@xxx.xxx.xxx:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/LOGIK006 i386 Build Date: 30 June 2005 Before reporting problems, check http://wiki.X.Org to make sure that you have the latest version. Module Loader present $ glxgears -info GL_MAX_VIEWPORT_DIMS=3D4096/4096 GL_RENDERER =3D Mesa GLX Indirect GL_VERSION =3D 1.2 (1.5 Mesa 6.1) GL_VENDOR =3D Mesa project: www.mesa3d.org 858 frames in 5.0 seconds =3D 171.600 FPS Xorg.conf follows... --- Section "ServerLayout" Identifier "x1" Screen 0 "Screen0" 0 0 InputDevice "Mouse0" "CorePointer" InputDevice "Keyboard0" "CoreKeyboard" EndSection Section "Files" RgbPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/rgb" ModulePath "/usr/X11R6/lib/modules" FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/misc/" FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/TTF/" FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/Type1/" FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/CID/" FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi/" FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi/" EndSection Section "Module" Load "extmod" Load "glx" Load "dri" Load "dbe" Load "record" Load "xtrap" Load "type1" Load "freetype" EndSection Section "InputDevice" Identifier "Mouse0" Driver "mouse" Option "Protocol" "Auto" Option "Device" "/dev/sysmouse" Option "Buttons" "5" Option "ZAxisMapping" "4 5" EndSection Section "InputDevice" Identifier "Keyboard0" Driver "keyboard" Option "XkbRules" "xorg" Option "XkbModel" "pc101" Option "XkbLayout" "gb" EndSection Section "Monitor" #DisplaySize 320 240 # mm Identifier "Monitor0" VendorName "MAX" ModelName "be0" Option "DPMS" EndSection Section "Device" ### Available Driver options are:- ### Values: : integer, : float, : "True"/"False", ### : "String", : " Hz/kHz/MHz" ### [arg]: arg optional #Option "SWcursor" # [] #Option "HWcursor" # [] #Option "NoAccel" # [] #Option "ShadowFB" # [] #Option "UseFBDev" # [] #Option "Rotate" # [] #Option "VideoKey" # #Option "FlatPanel" # [] #Option "FPDither" # [] #Option "CrtcNumber" # #Option "FPScale" # [] #Option "FPTweak" # Identifier "Card0" Driver "nv" VendorName "nVidia Corporation" BoardName "NV5M64 [RIVA TNT2 Model 64/Model 64 Pro]" BusID "PCI:2:0:0" EndSection Section "Screen" Identifier "Screen0" Device "Card0" Monitor "Monitor0" SubSection "Display" Viewport 0 0 Depth 1 EndSubSection SubSection "Display" Viewport 0 0 Depth 4 EndSubSection SubSection "Display" Viewport 0 0 Depth 8 EndSubSection SubSection "Display" Viewport 0 0 Depth 15 EndSubSection SubSection "Display" Viewport 0 0 Depth 16 EndSubSection SubSection "Display" Viewport 0 0 Depth 24 EndSubSection EndSection --- M --=20 pgp: http://www.darklogik.org/pub/pgp/pgp.txt B776 43DC 8A5D EAF9 2126 9A67 A7DA 390F DEFF 9dD1 --r5Pyd7+fXNt84Ff3 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.1 (FreeBSD) iQIVAwUBQsisBqfaOQ/e/53RAQrx2A/8C3FfLTJ9vgx0g+pHaHOeuuy8LnSZvtSi 8D/8aEcyPMHHGdY36PXBbplJIDYbDx4AglJhlJ3i3lGMvFETE942v1HHOBSxSwFy k2fVDXBT86M3qaJWcMG2aPIddF02stPFCFaM3nT1G1atvUoGbmXhDEKyWZ1u9uqM bPap9vMM2uHfx+NMBGsUN2rP7bGkgeVa9zSfTOJpvkGEDtqs+0wlOFS5aFLpT8Kt 3I8A43fY2HptV3Pq0HMHeKQSZaAnNPk92CT4dCBrLpjgEUG5k5VOoSnDUlIeDXDy vPV8SNgC7C5yZ1aUs7uDoqTGwiAhulOC5Annr7TeXEEV2u5DdgqtHYg1op6arrcn lvxDDNN1V75eVNH6n36wwAhBdPzXGPHBVp7pjZLLVNq0KtlbPD/evT7pw86kVS9s Ko/CIxMQgaHhSp9+mXBHo/1eg8DTugkec2LFMRKsQRvMB4Q0C0UXS7JL/yCqk9cx g83Qge5uXFbKegRKpbvQZoUIGzLeWdPuAYxI5UxCPxNFJv9cvv6ZxaGHIEVQBpUz 7DBDI91Omduf27hmcMTiSSzKmSdoUkwF73Eruk5qS4BapS3nO6xwBUoqzwHxVXE/ NZ90eLIEnMkvzVT5GUuhLGmIr16/3a5bWfHV3LC5EQN+wHnXggHUceVE3VJGZ1tf upuljgUYNiI= =Yl42 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --r5Pyd7+fXNt84Ff3-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jul 4 05:49:39 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B0E4F16A41C for ; Mon, 4 Jul 2005 05:49:39 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from grog@lemis.com) Received: from blackwater.lemis.com (wantadilla.lemis.com [192.109.197.135]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3F86B43D46 for ; Mon, 4 Jul 2005 05:49:36 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from grog@lemis.com) Received: by blackwater.lemis.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 6FD368568C; Mon, 4 Jul 2005 15:19:35 +0930 (CST) Date: Mon, 4 Jul 2005 15:19:35 +0930 From: Greg 'groggy' Lehey To: Bryan Maynard Message-ID: <20050704054935.GM40537@wantadilla.lemis.com> References: <200507011623.j61GNgHG010772@clunix.cl.msu.edu> <42C58BE2.5070900@gmail.com> <200507011356.04695.lane@joeandlane.com> <200507011401.14971.bryan.maynard@reallm.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="c8UbHMnQwI7BF+TB" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <200507011401.14971.bryan.maynard@reallm.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Organization: The FreeBSD Project Phone: +61-8-8388-8286 Fax: +61-8-8388-8725 Mobile: +61-418-838-708 WWW-Home-Page: http://www.FreeBSD.org/ X-PGP-Fingerprint: 9A1B 8202 BCCE B846 F92F 09AC 22E6 F290 507A 4223 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: "Top posting" (was: Test messages to -questions) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 04 Jul 2005 05:49:39 -0000 --c8UbHMnQwI7BF+TB Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline [resequenced, trimmed] On Friday, 1 July 2005 at 14:01:13 +0000, Bryan Maynard wrote: > On Friday 01 July 2005 06:56 pm, Lane wrote: >> On Friday 01 July 2005 13:30, Robert Marella wrote: >>> I agree. I am much more annoyed by top posters. >> >> The only thing about email that annoys me is spam. While I'm a >> subscriber to freebsd-questions, top posting, incomplete >> questions, inflammatory commentary, etc. is just the price I pay >> for getting a steady stream of "Aha's," and hardly seems worth the >> effort to develop an emotional viewpoint. >> >> Although "thought police" who say "do this" and "don't do that" >> wear me out sometimes with their email. > > Pardon my newness, but what is "top posting"? This sounds like a troll, but I'll give you the benefit of the doubt. "Top posting" is a term that some people use to describe part of what you did with your reply: put the reply out of sequence at the top of the message instead of where it fits in logically in the thread. Some people call the latter "bottom posting", but that's inaccurate and also wrong. You apparently haven't read http://www.lemis.com/questions.html . Amongst other things, it states: 7. Include relevant text from the original message. Trim it to the minimum, but don't overdo it. It should still be possible for somebody who didn't read the original message to understand what you're talking about. 8. Use some technique to identify which text came from the original message, and which text you add. I personally find that prepending "> " to the original message works best. Leaving white space after the "> " and leave empty lines between your text and the original text both make the result more readable. 9. Put your response in the correct place (after the text to which it replies). It's very difficult to read a thread of responses where each reply comes before the text to which it replies. Greg -- When replying to this message, please copy the original recipients. If you don't, I may ignore the reply or reply to the original recipients. For more information, see http://www.lemis.com/questions.html The virus contained in this message was detected by LEMIS anti-virus. 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See complete headers for address and phone numbers. --c8UbHMnQwI7BF+TB Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.6 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFCyM3vIubykFB6QiMRAgbmAJ0b/7l0H9B1kUn27orTy3xCPDPYvwCeIkoe 9gA2QstA8zT8xOeZUKDabJM= =G+ql -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --c8UbHMnQwI7BF+TB-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jul 4 08:14:37 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6488E16A41C for ; Mon, 4 Jul 2005 08:14:37 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) Received: from mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com (mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [65.75.192.90]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EE17843D46 for ; Mon, 4 Jul 2005 08:14:36 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) Received: from tedwin2k (nat-rtr.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [65.75.197.130]) by mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com (8.11.1/8.11.1) with SMTP id j648Fkb89609; Mon, 4 Jul 2005 01:15:46 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) From: "Ted Mittelstaedt" To: "Juha Saarinen" Date: Mon, 4 Jul 2005 01:14:33 -0700 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.6604 (9.0.2911.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1478 In-Reply-To: Importance: Normal Cc: FreeBSD questions Subject: RE: How to troubleshoot slow network performance with Realtek 8169s? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 04 Jul 2005 08:14:37 -0000 >-----Original Message----- >From: Juha Saarinen [mailto:juhasaarinen@gmail.com] >Sent: Sunday, July 03, 2005 4:03 AM >To: Ted Mittelstaedt >Cc: FreeBSD questions >Subject: Re: How to troubleshoot slow network performance with Realtek >8169s? > > >On 7/3/05, Ted Mittelstaedt wrote: >> >> The Realtek is a cheap adapter. You can try hard-coding the >> media type to see what happens, but the fact remains this is >> nowhere near as good a card as the 82801B. As a result of this >> there hasn't been that much attention to driver optimizations, >> you can review the work here: >> >> http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/cvsweb.cgi/src/sys/dev/re/if_re.c >> >> If playing around with the media type doesen't fix it you can >> try a send-pr but your best off just pulling the card and >> replacing it with another Intel, then mailing the card to one >> of the driver developers. Maybe in 6 months to a year you >> might see a faster driver in FreeBSD - or maybe not. > >Yeah, I know the 8169s isn't the flashest card in the universe and I >don't mind donating a card or two to the developers, but with further >testing -- assuming iperf isn't lying -- it seems the driver is OK and >there's something happening further up the chain that I don't >understand yet. > >What's weird is that with both 100 and 1000Mbit/s connections, the max >speed is a quarter of the link speed when using applications such as >ftp for transferring files. With iperf, I see 92Mbit/s on 100Mbit/s >and 400-640Mbit/s on 1000mbit/s connections depending on the >direction. > > This isn't weird at all. It is a driver issue. Remember I said the driver hasn't been optimized. The driver could be letting the card seize the PCI bus for an inordinate amount of time or some such. This could also be an interaction with the card, the driver, and some bios setting of your motherboard. This could be, for example, not allowing enough cpu time for a higher-overhead program like FTP to run at full speed, while allowing a lower overhead program like iperf, enough time to run at full blast. I have seen issues like this before and they have almost always been solved by swapping hardware. I have in fact swapped hardware that acted up in one machine to a different machine that had a different motherboard, same FreeBSD versions on both systems, and that hardware became rock-solid in the new motherboard. Frankly it all depends on what you want to do. If this is a production system you are going to need it online and you can't waste the time to screw around with it - in that case you know the Intel chipset works well in that motherboard, so replace the Realtek. If however this is a fun-n-games system then keep the Realtek in there and file a send-pr and work it that way. Ted From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jul 4 08:18:44 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 361D916A41C for ; Mon, 4 Jul 2005 08:18:44 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) Received: from mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com (mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [65.75.192.90]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E962943D46 for ; Mon, 4 Jul 2005 08:18:43 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) Received: from tedwin2k (nat-rtr.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [65.75.197.130]) by mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com (8.11.1/8.11.1) with SMTP id j648Ivb89632; Mon, 4 Jul 2005 01:18:58 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) From: "Ted Mittelstaedt" To: "Vittorio De Martino" , Date: Mon, 4 Jul 2005 01:17:45 -0700 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.6604 (9.0.2911.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1478 In-Reply-To: <200507032257.48419.vdm.fbsd@virgilio.it> Importance: Normal Cc: Subject: RE: Whom to report a panic to? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 04 Jul 2005 08:18:44 -0000 man send-pr Ted >-----Original Message----- >From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org >[mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]On Behalf Of Vittorio De >Martino >Sent: Sunday, July 03, 2005 1:58 PM >To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org >Subject: Whom to report a panic to? > > >My (daughter's) new mp3 usb device made my laptop with the >latest freebsd 5.4 >freeze and show a page of panic "explaining (not to me)" what >went wrong. >The same mp3 reader is smoothly seen as a usb mass memory from >linux on the >same laptop. >My question is: > >1)Whom should I report the freebsd panic to? To what list? >2)What should I report? >3) is there a way to record in a file the console panic report? > >Ciao >Vittorio >_______________________________________________ >freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list >http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions >To unsubscribe, send any mail to >"freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jul 4 08:50:14 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 32DAD16A41C for ; Mon, 4 Jul 2005 08:50:14 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) Received: from mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com (mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [65.75.192.90]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C9ABE43D46 for ; Mon, 4 Jul 2005 08:50:13 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) Received: from tedwin2k (nat-rtr.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [65.75.197.130]) by mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com (8.11.1/8.11.1) with SMTP id j648pNb89759; Mon, 4 Jul 2005 01:51:23 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) From: "Ted Mittelstaedt" To: "Ron" , Date: Mon, 4 Jul 2005 01:50:10 -0700 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.6604 (9.0.2911.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1478 In-Reply-To: <87d4647e0507030528119f695@mail.gmail.com> Importance: Normal Cc: Subject: RE: FreeBSD locks up when X-windows running (LONG) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 04 Jul 2005 08:50:14 -0000 >-----Original Message----- >From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org >[mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]On Behalf Of Ron >Sent: Sunday, July 03, 2005 5:29 AM >To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org >Subject: Re: FreeBSD locks up when X-windows running (LONG) > > >On 7/3/05, Ted Mittelstaedt wrote: >> >> No, I am saying your going to have to rebuild with the >> June drivers and _see_if_it_works_. >> >> If that locks up, well then as Nvidia wrote those drivers, >> you can call them on their support line. Please report >> back here and let us know how this works out - a lot of >> people are avoiding purchasing that chipset or boards with >> that chipset because Nvidia don't supply programming info, >> and nobody really knows how well Nvidia is going to support >> us. >Is there any 3d hardware company that does supply enough programming >info? I looked a year ago, but I haven't seen any *product* yet, >although there are initiatives. > Yes, here's 2: http://www.xgitech.com/about/about_press1.asp?CTID=%7BC3FD7D03-6BE1-4BB9- 9F34-1221E723B87F%7D http://www.via.com.tw/en/resources/pressroom/2005_archive/pr050412_driver source.jsp Ted From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jul 4 10:03:45 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 07B1316A41C for ; Mon, 4 Jul 2005 10:03:45 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from crucis@gmail.com) Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.207]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BF7EC43D45 for ; Mon, 4 Jul 2005 10:03:44 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from crucis@gmail.com) Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id i21so657629wra for ; Mon, 04 Jul 2005 03:03:44 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:mime-version:content-type; b=RKy25xuW3B1riPkS4wo2bqMbC6UG3g8ABaUXvruw2wwwgUSWFihWVUjHJlp45eMCt27pS2RIy8+8s3fDllV9A2jJzmtwN8Jr6xTQoUnOEzbd3FpYMPGgIeTfTdRlSmlQV3khM1NKRJdY1j1F9e+aWJFKTG155PuCS45wr0xz7I8= Received: by 10.54.143.4 with SMTP id q4mr3611368wrd; Mon, 04 Jul 2005 03:03:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.31.23 with HTTP; Mon, 4 Jul 2005 03:03:43 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <79f696580507040303445c9637@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 4 Jul 2005 18:03:43 +0800 From: Crucis To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: Fuser equivalent X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Crucis List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 04 Jul 2005 10:03:45 -0000 Hi, Is there a BSD equivalent of the Linux "fuser" command? fuser is used to identify processes using files/sockets. Thanks in advance From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jul 4 10:12:39 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 982AA16A41C for ; Mon, 4 Jul 2005 10:12:39 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from bsd@todoo.biz) Received: from newmail.rmm.fr (newmail.rmm.fr [195.115.46.198]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 59D1D43D49 for ; Mon, 4 Jul 2005 10:12:38 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from bsd@todoo.biz) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by newmail.rmm.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7EF0C28AF0 for ; Mon, 4 Jul 2005 12:12:37 +0200 (CEST) Received: from newmail.rmm.fr ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (newmail.rmm.fr [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 83577-07 for ; Mon, 4 Jul 2005 12:12:36 +0200 (CEST) Received: from [172.30.1.200] (unknown [195.115.54.138]) (using TLSv1 with cipher RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by newmail.rmm.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1604728913 for ; Mon, 4 Jul 2005 12:12:36 +0200 (CEST) Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v730) Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=WINDOWS-1252; delsp=yes; format=flowed To: Liste FreeBSD From: bsd Date: Mon, 4 Jul 2005 12:12:30 +0200 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.730) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at rmm.fr Subject: Using unix mail with maildir format X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 04 Jul 2005 10:12:39 -0000 Hello, Does anyone know if there is a way to read mail with unix "mail" =20 program? I've been using this program since couple of years and I am quite =20 happy with It=85 I can't seem to find a shortcut to have It read maildir format=85 Thanks. ________________________________________________ =AB?=BB=A5=AB?=BB=A7=AB?=BB=A5=AB?=BB=A7=AB?=BB=A5=AB?=BB=A7=AB?=BB=A5=AB?= =BB=A7=AB?=BB=A5=AB?=BB=A7=AB?=BB=A5=AB?=BB=A7 =AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF= =AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF Gregober ---> PGP ID --> 0x1BA3C2FD bsd @at@ todoo.biz ________________________________________________ =AB?=BB=A5=AB?=BB=A7=AB?=BB=A5=AB?=BB=A7=AB?=BB=A5=AB?=BB=A7=AB?=BB=A5=AB?= =BB=A7=AB?=BB=A5=AB?=BB=A7=AB?=BB=A5=AB?=BB=A7 =AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF= =AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jul 4 11:09:33 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7D3C916A41C for ; Mon, 4 Jul 2005 11:09:33 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from dexter@ambidexter.com) Received: from tortoise.way.lv (7.lmuza.lv [195.13.151.139]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3930643D46 for ; Mon, 4 Jul 2005 11:09:32 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from dexter@ambidexter.com) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by tortoise.way.lv (Postfix) with ESMTP id 80EA71FED59 for ; Mon, 4 Jul 2005 14:09:20 +0300 (EEST) Received: from tortoise.way.lv ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (tortoise [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 18007-10 for ; Mon, 4 Jul 2005 14:09:15 +0300 (EEST) Received: from [192.168.1.100] (unknown [213.175.79.146]) by tortoise.way.lv (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6E4CE1FED52 for ; Mon, 4 Jul 2005 14:09:15 +0300 (EEST) Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: Date: Mon, 4 Jul 2005 14:09:22 +0300 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: Michael Dexter Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new-20030616-p10 (Debian) at way.lv Subject: List all make targets? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 04 Jul 2005 11:09:33 -0000 Hello all, I am sure I saw this somewhere and even added it to my notes but neither I nor Google can find it for the life of us... or I dreamt it... Is there a 'make' flag to list all make targets for any given directory containing Makefile* ? Appreciated! On the same topic, can anyone recommend an IDE or utility that can help me navigate the make hierarchy used by 'build/installworld' and 'release?' It's a brilliant mechanism but I get lost chasing variables that may span /usr/src/Makefile.inc1 and /usr/share/mk/ and... Thanks! Michael From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jul 4 11:48:21 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 52FF816A41C for ; Mon, 4 Jul 2005 11:48:21 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from david@landgren.net) Received: from sferics.mongueurs.net (sferics.mongueurs.net [81.80.147.197]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 151EE43D53 for ; Mon, 4 Jul 2005 11:48:20 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from david@landgren.net) Received: from [127.0.0.1] (exo.bpinet.com [81.80.147.206]) by sferics.mongueurs.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 539FCA94F; Mon, 4 Jul 2005 13:48:19 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <42C92200.1070309@landgren.net> Date: Mon, 04 Jul 2005 13:48:16 +0200 From: David Landgren Organization: The Lusty Decadent Delights of Imperial Pompeii User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (Windows/20041206) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <79f696580507040303445c9637@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <79f696580507040303445c9637@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Crucis Subject: Re: Fuser equivalent X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 04 Jul 2005 11:48:21 -0000 Crucis wrote: > Hi, > Is there a BSD equivalent of the Linux "fuser" command? > fuser is used to identify processes using files/sockets. > Thanks in advance lsof? Available in ports David From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jul 4 12:00:01 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CF2F816A41C for ; Mon, 4 Jul 2005 12:00:00 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from vrkid0@gmail.com) Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.201]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 90C7A43D48 for ; Mon, 4 Jul 2005 12:00:00 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from vrkid0@gmail.com) Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id i4so714416wra for ; Mon, 04 Jul 2005 05:00:00 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; b=b3HGjpEVLwLTehM9qrDyGuSpk+U2CD6KjvykIh0ALXPo1URnJUo9k8nYFTzbJsLFCIiyLae5MwRPgl5ELXD7w6UNoIC8BMEQBuNkWsURjfE6yI/TlJmirHEX8xmj08Vd5jMr7obISJ5K+NAw+VoOiW3U7xLRA7RDPkh2iuijy5I= Received: by 10.54.27.45 with SMTP id a45mr3508238wra; Mon, 04 Jul 2005 04:59:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.125.16 with HTTP; Mon, 4 Jul 2005 04:59:59 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Mon, 4 Jul 2005 14:59:59 +0300 From: Paolo Supino To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline Subject: file-4.09 compilation error X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Paolo Supino List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 04 Jul 2005 12:00:01 -0000 Hi=20 If this is the wrong place to ask the following question please direct me in the right direction... I'm trying to compile and install 'file-4.09' on FreeBSD 4.10 (someone else needs it) and the compilation fails with the following error: gcc -g -O2 -o .libs/file file.o ./.libs/libmagic.so -lz -Wl,--rpath -Wl,/finjan//lib file.o: In function `file_mbswidth': /home/paolo/src/file-4.09/src/file.c:465: undefined reference to `mbrtowc' /home/paolo/src/file-4.09/src/file.c:479: undefined reference to `wcwidth' gmake[1]: *** [file] Error 1 gmake[1]: Leaving directory `/home/paolo/src/file-4.09/src' gmake: *** [install-recursive] Error 1 The ports tree has version 4.07 (too old) and compiline version 4.12 completes successfully. I cannot force a version change so installing 4.12 out of the question. Any help in causing file version 4.09 to compile successfully will be greatly appriciated. Paolo From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jul 4 12:15:03 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9B3B216A41C for ; Mon, 4 Jul 2005 12:15:03 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from elon@zwelf.in-dsl.de) Received: from zwelf.in-dsl.de (zwelf.in-dsl.de [217.197.85.214]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EACC543D58 for ; Mon, 4 Jul 2005 12:15:02 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from elon@zwelf.in-dsl.de) Received: from elon by zwelf.in-dsl.de with local (Exim 4.20) id 1DpPqn-0000iv-Bf for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 04 Jul 2005 12:15:01 +0000 Date: Mon, 4 Jul 2005 14:15:01 +0200 From: Leon Messner To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20050704121501.GA2751@asterix.bsdserved.de> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i Subject: FreeBSD 4.11 IPv6-over-IPv4 tunnel problem X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 04 Jul 2005 12:15:03 -0000 Hi List, I want to establish an IPv6-over-IPv4 tunnel to my ISP. After some hours trying i got myself acounts at HE and XS26 for testing and they work. My Setup is FreeBSD 4.11-STABLE with ip(6)fw (stateful) and natd running. My ISP gave the appended setup information which is for Debian Linux (which i've never used). The IPv4 endpoints are 217.197.85.214(me) and 192.109.42.23(ISP) the IPv6 endpoints are 2001:bf0:c00c::c00c:0002:2(me) and 2001:bf0:c00c::c00c:0002:1(ISP). I asked my ISP for support but they don't know the way for FreeBSD and they tell me the tunnel is definitely working. I tried doing the following but this and several other approaches did not yield anything : zwelf:~# ifconfig gif0 create tunnel 217.197.85.214 192.109.42.23 up zwelf:~# ifconfig gif0 inet6 alias 2001:bf0:c00c::c00c:0002:2 zwelf:~# ping6 ff02::1%gif0 PING6(56=40+8+8 bytes) fe80::250:bfff:fe58:6c75%gif0 --> ff02::1%gif0 16 bytes from fe80::250:bfff:fe58:6c75%gif0, icmp_seq=0 hlim=64 time=0.746 ms 16 bytes from fe80::250:bfff:fe58:6c75%gif0, icmp_seq=1 hlim=64 time=0.422 ms 16 bytes from fe80::250:bfff:fe58:6c75%gif0, icmp_seq=2 hlim=64 time=0.427 ms ^C --- ff02::1%gif0 ping6 statistics --- 3 packets transmitted, 3 packets received, 0% packet loss round-trip min/avg/max/std-dev = 0.422/0.532/0.746/0.152 ms Thanks for reading, any comments appreciated Leon /* /etc/network/interfaces for a Debian system */ auto zwelf6 iface zwelf6 inet6 v4tunnel address 2001:bf0:c00c::c00c:0002:2 netmask 112 local 217.197.85.214 endpoint 192.109.42.23 ttl 64 up ip tunnel change zwelf6 ttl 64 up echo 1 > /proc/sys/net/ipv6/conf/all/forwarding up ip -6 route add 2001::/3 dev zwelf6 down ip -6 route delete 2001::/3 dev zwelf6 /* full ifconfig */ rl0: flags=8843 mtu 1500 options=40 inet 192.168.10.1 netmask 0xffffff00 broadcast 192.168.10.255 inet6 fe80::250:bfff:fe58:6c75%rl0 prefixlen 64 scopeid 0x1 ether 00:50:bf:58:6c:75 media: Ethernet autoselect (100baseTX ) status: active rl1: flags=8843 mtu 1500 options=40 inet6 fe80::230:84ff:fe0b:15d4%rl1 prefixlen 64 scopeid 0x2 ether 00:30:84:0b:15:d4 media: Ethernet 10baseT/UTP status: active lp0: flags=8851 mtu 1500 lo0: flags=8049 mtu 16384 inet6 ::1 prefixlen 128 inet6 fe80::1%lo0 prefixlen 64 scopeid 0x4 inet 127.0.0.1 netmask 0xff000000 ppp0: flags=8010 mtu 1500 sl0: flags=c010 mtu 552 tun0: flags=8051 mtu 1492 inet 217.197.85.214 --> 192.109.42.172 netmask 0xffffffff inet6 fe80::250:bfff:fe58:6c75%tun0 prefixlen 64 scopeid 0x7 Opened by PID 70 gif0: flags=8051 mtu 1280 tunnel inet 217.197.85.214 --> 192.109.42.23 inet6 fe80::250:bfff:fe58:6c75%gif0 prefixlen 64 scopeid 0x8 inet6 2001:bf0:c00c::c00c:2:2 prefixlen 64 -- gnupg key ID: 9B820836 & Fingerprint: 6081 8F41 8FEC 0D69 DB98 F014 0FD4 B47D 9B82 0836 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jul 4 12:16:12 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CAA7816A41C for ; Mon, 4 Jul 2005 12:16:12 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from freebsd-listen@fabiankeil.de) Received: from smtprelay02.ispgateway.de (smtprelay02.ispgateway.de [80.67.18.14]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1F18F43D49 for ; Mon, 4 Jul 2005 12:16:11 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from freebsd-listen@fabiankeil.de) Received: (qmail 13174 invoked from network); 4 Jul 2005 12:16:09 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO localhost) ([pbs]775067@[83.129.20.162]) (envelope-sender ) by smtprelay02.ispgateway.de (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for ; 4 Jul 2005 12:16:09 -0000 Date: Mon, 4 Jul 2005 14:16:28 +0200 From: Fabian Keil To: tradigan@newrevolutions.net Message-ID: <20050704141628.249fd2c7@localhost> In-Reply-To: <200506301100.28371.tradigan@newrevolutions.net> References: <200506301100.28371.tradigan@newrevolutions.net> X-Mailer: Sylpheed-Claws 1.0.4 (GTK+ 1.2.10; i386-portbld-freebsd5.4) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary=Signature_Mon__4_Jul_2005_14_16_28_+0200_fPQbiBGuNMbx8QyZ; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=pgp-sha1 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: VPN Tunnel X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 04 Jul 2005 12:16:12 -0000 --Signature_Mon__4_Jul_2005_14_16_28_+0200_fPQbiBGuNMbx8QyZ Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable tradigan@newrevolutions.net wrote: > I'm having some problems getting a VPN tunnel working between two sites. = =20 > Currently I am just trying to establish a tunnel and worry about the=20 > encryption after the tunnel is up and functional, however I cannot even g= et=20 > the tunnel established. I have followed the directions from the FreeBSD= =20 > handbook but had no luck. Here is my scenario: >=20 > Network 1: >=20 > FreeBSD Internal IP: 192.168.20.13 > FreeBSD External IP: 12.34.56.78 >=20 > Network 2: >=20 > FreeBSD Internal IP: 192.168.15.2 > FreeBSD External IP: 87.65.43.21 >=20 > On the Network 1 Box, I configured the gif0 interface as follows: >=20 > root@freebsd# ifconfig gif0 create > root@freebsd# ifconfig gif0 tunnel 12.34.56.78 87.65.43.21 > root@freebsd# ifconfig gif0 inet 192.168.20.13 192.168.15.2 netmask=20 > 255.255.255.255 >=20 > For IPFilter, I have the following rules at the TOP of the script: > pass in quick from 87.65.43.21 to any on xl0 > pass in quick on gif0 all > pass out quick on gif0 all >=20 > On the Network 2 Box, I configured the gif0 interface as follows: >=20 > root@host# ifconfig gif0 create > root@host# ifconfig gif0 tunnel 87.65.43.21 12.34.56.78 > root@host# ifconfig gif0 inet 192.168.15.2 192.168.20.13 netmask=20 > 255.255.255.255 >=20 > For IPFilter, I have the following rules at the TOP of the script: > pass in quick from 12.34.56.78 to any on xl0 > pass in quick on gif0 all > pass out quick on gif0 all >=20 > After I have created both gif0 interfaces on each of the boxes, the FreeB= SD=20 > handbook says I should be able to ping the private IP of the other BSD=20 > machine. When I ping from Network 1, I don't get any type of response an= d=20 > just 100% failed sent packets. When I ping from Network 2, I get a 'No r= oute=20 > to host' message as well as 100% failed sent packets. >=20 > I have been at this for 2 days now and I'm really starting to get frustra= ted. =20 > Am I missing something here? Any help would be appreciated. Looks like the routing table in network 2 doesn't work. netstat -rn should give you a clue what's wrong. Fabian --=20 http://www.fabiankeil.de/ --Signature_Mon__4_Jul_2005_14_16_28_+0200_fPQbiBGuNMbx8QyZ Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.0 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFCySicoomUOj0wp30RAgVRAJ9O5ep7li76U2zlYkEvVS0iU6wyKgCfVMxK Q9owLeeCaHhftn/Ock3uV1I= =Sjvm -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Signature_Mon__4_Jul_2005_14_16_28_+0200_fPQbiBGuNMbx8QyZ-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jul 4 12:19:31 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5E5F516A41C for ; Mon, 4 Jul 2005 12:19:31 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from knecht@gmx.de) Received: from mail.gmx.net (mail.gmx.net [213.165.64.20]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id AF51743D46 for ; Mon, 4 Jul 2005 12:19:30 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from knecht@gmx.de) Received: (qmail 8946 invoked by uid 0); 4 Jul 2005 12:19:29 -0000 Received: from 195.212.94.12 by www73.gmx.net with HTTP; Mon, 4 Jul 2005 14:19:29 +0200 (MEST) Date: Mon, 4 Jul 2005 14:19:29 +0200 (MEST) From: knecht@gmx.de To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-Authenticated: #376482 Message-ID: <8466.1120479569@www73.gmx.net> X-Mailer: WWW-Mail 1.6 (Global Message Exchange) X-Flags: 0001 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: unexpected RCODE (SERVFAIL) resolving X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 04 Jul 2005 12:19:31 -0000 Dear all, we are running FreeBSD 5.4 and Bind 9.3.0 When i try to access www.citrx.com i get the following error: named[443]: unexpected RCODE (SERVFAIL) resolving 'www.gslb.citrix.com/AAAA/IN': 12.8.192.28#53 I starting a lot of test and think Citrix is useing MS DNS server. From my point of view there is a bug in MS DNS server. Because i setup a test MS DNS server and make some test and see the same error. When i use BIND as DNS everythink work fine. Is one of you know this error or can help ? Kind regards Thorsten -- Weitersagen: GMX DSL-Flatrates mit Tempo-Garantie! Ab 4,99 Euro/Monat: http://www.gmx.net/de/go/dsl From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jul 4 12:25:00 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C3D0A16A41C for ; Mon, 4 Jul 2005 12:25:00 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from TelkomSA87213@telkomsa.net) Received: from mail.telkomsa.net (desdemona.telkomsa.net [196.25.211.7]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A022943D53 for ; Mon, 4 Jul 2005 12:24:58 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from TelkomSA87213@telkomsa.net) Received: (qmail 30374 invoked from network); 4 Jul 2005 12:24:56 -0000 Received: from 196.25.69.74 by desdemona.telkomsa.net (envelope-from , uid 81) with qmail-scanner-1.24 (clamdscan: 0.80/557. Clear:RC:1(196.25.69.74):. Processed in 0.064841 secs); 04 Jul 2005 12:24:56 -0000 X-Qmail-Scanner-Mail-From: TelkomSA87213@telkomsa.net via desdemona.telkomsa.net X-Qmail-Scanner: 1.24 (Clear:RC:1(196.25.69.74):. Processed in 0.064841 secs) Received: from unknown (HELO webmail.telkomsa.net) ([196.25.69.74]) (envelope-sender ) by O (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for ; 4 Jul 2005 12:24:56 -0000 Received: from www-proxy.csir.co.za ([146.64.81.7]) (proxying for 146.64.8.30) (SquirrelMail authenticated user TelkomSA87213) by webmail.telkomsa.net with HTTP; Mon, 4 Jul 2005 14:24:56 +0200 (SAST) Message-ID: <32804.146.64.81.7.1120479896.squirrel@webmail.telkomsa.net> Date: Mon, 4 Jul 2005 14:24:56 +0200 (SAST) From: "TvZ" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.4 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 Importance: Normal Subject: Mutiple X's with a twist. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: tvz1@telkomsa.net List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 04 Jul 2005 12:25:00 -0000 Ok...I'm running multiple Xsessions on multiple screens. But as always...their is a problem. When going from one session to the other, the screens with former sessions goes black and other turns on. Same happens when shitching back. So...How can I switch and keep the display up? Any help would be apreciated. Tertius van Zyl From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jul 4 13:03:12 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5077D16A41C for ; Mon, 4 Jul 2005 13:03:12 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from gerard-seibert@suscom.net) Received: from smtp4.suscom.net (smtp4.suscom.net [64.78.119.249]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 24D5843D45 for ; Mon, 4 Jul 2005 13:03:09 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from gerard-seibert@suscom.net) Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by smtp4.suscom.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 56BBD150213 for ; Mon, 4 Jul 2005 09:03:08 -0400 (EDT) Received: from smtp4.suscom.net ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (smtp4.suscom.net [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 29831-05-5 for ; Mon, 4 Jul 2005 09:03:06 -0400 (EDT) Received: from Gerard.suscom.net (ip148.217.susc.suscom.net [216.45.217.148]) by smtp4.suscom.net (Postfix) with SMTP id 1929D15020F for ; Mon, 4 Jul 2005 09:03:06 -0400 (EDT) Date: Mon, 4 Jul 2005 09:03:08 -0400 (Eastern Standard Time) From: Gerard Seibert To: freebsd-questions Message-ID: X-X-Sender: beerstud@spamcop.net@mail.cesmail.net MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at suscom.net Subject: SendMail Error Message X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Gerard Seibert List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 04 Jul 2005 13:03:12 -0000 For no apparent reason, the following error message is suddenly appearing on my computer monitor. # Jul 4 07:48:31 beerstud sm-mta[5876]: j64BIV2C005802: SYSERR(root): hash map "Alias0": unsafe map file /etc/mail/aliases.db: World writable directory I checked, and the directory is set at 0755. I never altered it or anything, so why is it suddenly giving me this message? In addition, what do I have to do to correct the situation? -- Thanks Gerard Seibert gerard-seibert@seibercom.net "Madam, you have between your legs an instrument capable of giving pleasure to thousands and all you can do is scratch it." Sir Thomas Beecham to a lady cellist. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jul 3 17:23:19 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6574E16A41C for ; Sun, 3 Jul 2005 17:23:19 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from rsmith@xs4all.nl) Received: from smtp-vbr1.xs4all.nl (smtp-vbr1.xs4all.nl [194.109.24.21]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EF0BD43D45 for ; Sun, 3 Jul 2005 17:23:18 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from rsmith@xs4all.nl) Received: from slackbox.xs4all.nl (slackbox.xs4all.nl [213.84.242.160]) by smtp-vbr1.xs4all.nl (8.13.3/8.13.3) with ESMTP id j63HMuAu070422; Sun, 3 Jul 2005 19:22:56 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from rsmith@xs4all.nl) Received: by slackbox.xs4all.nl (Postfix, from userid 1001) id F18776259; Sun, 3 Jul 2005 19:22:55 +0200 (CEST) Date: Sun, 3 Jul 2005 19:22:55 +0200 From: Roland Smith To: fbsd_user Message-ID: <20050703172255.GA5805@slackbox.xs4all.nl> Mail-Followup-To: fbsd_user , Alejandro Pulver , "freebsd-questions@FreeBSD. ORG" References: <20050703132546.62438d76@phobos.mars.bsd> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="zYM0uCDKw75PZbzx" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i X-GPG-Fingerprint: 1A2B 477F 9970 BA3C 2914 B7CE 1277 EFB0 C321 A725 X-GPG-Key: http://www.xs4all.nl/~rsmith/pubkey.txt X-GPG-Notice: If this message is not signed, don't assume I sent it! X-Virus-Scanned: by XS4ALL Virus Scanner X-Mailman-Approved-At: Mon, 04 Jul 2005 14:02:43 +0000 Cc: Alejandro Pulver , "freebsd-questions@FreeBSD. ORG" Subject: Re: help with sh script X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 03 Jul 2005 17:23:19 -0000 --zYM0uCDKw75PZbzx Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sun, Jul 03, 2005 at 01:03:40PM -0400, fbsd_user wrote: >=20 > I get this error "printf missing format character" >=20 > Does sed need different syntax or have I got it all wrong? Issue the following command and be enlightend: man 1 printf Or just use 'echo' instead. Roland --=20 R.F.Smith (http://www.xs4all.nl/~rsmith/) Please send e-mail as plain text. public key: http://www.xs4all.nl/~rsmith/pubkey.txt --zYM0uCDKw75PZbzx Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.1 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFCyB7vEnfvsMMhpyURAsvhAJ0ZDcxLrUK+r0ILBSaMII/1Lub+1ACeObP0 GvAuUWOibg6qdQAvVkEGBfE= =VsDI -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --zYM0uCDKw75PZbzx-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jul 3 17:27:48 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0F7B516A41C for ; Sun, 3 Jul 2005 17:27:48 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from FreeBSD@amadeus.demon.nl) Received: from post-22.mail.nl.demon.net (post-22.mail.nl.demon.net [194.159.73.192]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9EDD743D48 for ; Sun, 3 Jul 2005 17:27:47 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from FreeBSD@amadeus.demon.nl) Received: from amadeus.demon.nl ([82.161.18.200]:55956 helo=[10.0.1.1]) by post-22.mail.nl.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Dp8Fu-0001yq-2Y; Sun, 03 Jul 2005 17:27:46 +0000 In-Reply-To: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v730) X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-Id: From: FreeBSD questions mailing list Date: Sun, 3 Jul 2005 19:27:36 +0200 To: fbsd_user@a1poweruser.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.730) X-Mailman-Approved-At: Mon, 04 Jul 2005 14:02:43 +0000 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: Alejandro Pulver , "freebsd-questions@FreeBSD. ORG" Subject: Re: help with sh script X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 03 Jul 2005 17:27:48 -0000 On 03 jul 2005, at 19:03, fbsd_user wrote: > On Sun, 3 Jul 2005 12:14:05 -0400 > "fbsd_user" wrote: > > >>> Thanks but I need a little more help. >>> >>> num_ip="(printf $raw_ip | sed 's/\.//g')" >>> >>> gives me a error. >>> >>> What would the correct syntax be? >>> >>> I am trying to write script to insert rules into PF firewall >>> on 5.4. using pf anchors. >>> >>> >> >> Hello, >> >> The problem here is that >> >> num_ip="(printf $raw_ip | sed 's/\.//g')" >> >> makes num_ip equal to >> >> (printf $raw_ip | sed 's/\.//g') >> >> instead of its output. >> >> To assign the output of a command use "`": >> >> num_ip=`(printf $raw_ip | sed 's/\.//g')` >> >> Also the subshell (the "()") is not needed: >> >> num_ip=`printf $raw_ip | sed 's/\.//g'` >> >> Hope that helps. >> >> Best Regards, >> Ale >> > > > Thanks that was just what I needed. Now building on that I tried > this > > std_text='No ALTQ support in kernel ALTQ related functions disabled' > > ret_ob=`(echo $outrule) | pfctl -a doorman_ob:$session_name_ob -f - > 2>&1` > ret_ob=`printf $ret_ob | sed 's/\$std_text//g'` > > The goal here is to remove the std_text from the output of the > pftctl command. > > I get this error "printf missing format character" > > Does sed need different syntax or have I got it all wrong? > printf needs " surrounding the arguments: printf "$ret_ob" is the right syntax... Arno From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jul 3 18:22:27 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3C41C16A41C for ; Sun, 3 Jul 2005 18:22:27 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from markzero@logik.ath.cx) Received: from addr9.addr.com (addr9.addr.com [209.249.147.40]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 22D6343D49 for ; Sun, 3 Jul 2005 18:22:26 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from markzero@logik.ath.cx) Received: from logik.ath.cx (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by addr9.addr.com (8.12.11/8.12.8/Submit) with ESMTP id j63IMJE8046881; Sun, 3 Jul 2005 11:22:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: by logik.ath.cx (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 46C586510; Sun, 3 Jul 2005 19:22:19 +0100 (BST) Date: Sun, 3 Jul 2005 19:22:19 +0100 From: markzero To: Alex Zbyslaw Message-ID: <20050703182218.GB79411@logik.ath.cx> References: <20050630001004.GA60781@logik.ath.cx> <42C3BB88.60609@dial.pipex.com> <42C73D17.3080208@dial.pipex.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha512; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="6c2NcOVqGQ03X4Wi" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <42C73D17.3080208@dial.pipex.com> X-GPG-Key: http://darklogik.org/pub/pgp/pgp.txt X-Fingerprint: B776 43DC 8A5D EAF9 2126 9A67 A7DA 390F DEFF 9DD1 X-ADDRSpamFilter: Passed, probability (10%) X-ADDRSignature: 3A00275E X-Mailman-Approved-At: Mon, 04 Jul 2005 14:02:43 +0000 Cc: iqgrande@gmail.com, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: NVIDIA TNT2 woes X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 03 Jul 2005 18:22:27 -0000 --6c2NcOVqGQ03X4Wi Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > >(WW) The NVIDIA RIVA TNT2 Model 64/Model 64 Pro GPU installed in > >(WW) this system is supported through the NVIDIA Legacy > >(WW) drivers. Please visit > >(WW) http://www.nvidia.com/object/unix.html for more > >(WW) information. The 1.0-7667 NVIDIA driver will ignore this > >(WW) GPU. Continuing probe... (EE) No devices detected. > > > >The NVIDIA Legacy drivers magically fail to exist on the NVIDIA > >site and there appears no be no port for them either. > >=20 >=20 > I was exploring the latest nvidia driver and came across this page. =20 > http://www.nvidia.com/object/freebsd_archive.html > Isn't 7174 or 6113 the legacy driver you are after? >=20 > --Alex >=20 Well, yes they are the older drivers that would work, but the above message gave me the impression that NVIDIA were going to be maintaining a seperate set of legacy drivers. Not that it really matters now, the nv driver seems to be more solid and allows me to run my monitor at the resolution I'm actually supposed to be able to run it at (the proprietary drivers had a long unfixed bug that limited my maximum resolution). I get no apparent performance decrease on glxgears either (which is about the limit of my GL usage nowadays!). Cheers, M --=20 pgp: http://www.darklogik.org/pub/pgp/pgp.txt B776 43DC 8A5D EAF9 2126 9A67 A7DA 390F DEFF 9dD1 --6c2NcOVqGQ03X4Wi Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.1 (FreeBSD) iQIVAwUBQsgs2afaOQ/e/53RAQrPXA/+KBC8FqlzRt6hr4ShfXmQo3N42oMNndcg ncgVU1kNJuIE+fkHN9WedyhELVYXcX+i/8m1PpTckaRkvgpG7Sz+assC+UFhO2qg v3Vl7q41picPrNeHC3XCdSOSRxyz9Hi3eAavy8buMj3+wthInwi/2Bv/GPxHWhH9 10ssbG+dzaDL8Q2x5lN0jbCWuvi63Ff0JqqnCuGtRwHuYD9myn53LLG+K82YKKI8 hMUijNGu1WXGtUAafyojEykI44YslllpQqapqEWYFfqbxoMrcZ8FOCg8f9tO2DVf 9mIkWU7kllH5ZMeZTMFdtL8rVuPe3Y0yJ88eRojOZLa2ij4X1yBZT16tIMw75Htm beeCO6EGHFu0D6Pyu7A99X4obMKwCT4pVtDt4F4eMSC9SST6P/2vB6HYh8BiwJBS 1Wh93hKu6lNwfelJAC8kvQZffHw52JJk9BfEhwXHEkDDvtuiBBi5Kz6d3ZgKKBzj efjm3f7SK3VGeS2rj5Qrz6z/rmhwBnpSZl4m/V9M4wMaxoiZhaGjXfn3AND1sA4B +EPJ0JXtn1qNRUCNxM0dt4sES/7QnBI7DQ+UaquGOvEZSTDFmYMbCSA5DnQmBDnw R7iLDpEmb/et0QD8JuyvTqbY1nsbsVZkPRt9Jdb4nSAYNVEo/znfzQAx+c1GY0zq rjNgcKznbqw= =GkQz -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --6c2NcOVqGQ03X4Wi-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jul 3 23:36:55 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3CB2916A41C for ; Sun, 3 Jul 2005 23:36:55 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) Received: from mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com (mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [65.75.192.90]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DB78B43D46 for ; Sun, 3 Jul 2005 23:36:54 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) Received: from tedwin2k (nat-rtr.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [65.75.197.130]) by mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com (8.11.1/8.11.1) with SMTP id j63Nc1b87920; Sun, 3 Jul 2005 16:38:01 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) From: "Ted Mittelstaedt" To: "Dmitry Mityugov" , "Lane" Date: Sun, 3 Jul 2005 16:36:49 -0700 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.6604 (9.0.2911.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1478 In-Reply-To: Importance: Normal X-Mailman-Approved-At: Mon, 04 Jul 2005 14:02:43 +0000 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: RE: Linux move to FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 03 Jul 2005 23:36:55 -0000 >-----Original Message----- >From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org >[mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]On Behalf Of Dmitry Mityugov >Sent: Sunday, July 03, 2005 2:03 PM >To: Lane >Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org >Subject: Re: Linux move to FreeBSD > > >On 7/3/05, Lane wrote: >... >> It truly boggles the mind at how frequently people protest >the on-going >> decision to use beastie on the public face of FreeBSD. It's >almost like a >> guest who comes into your home and then starts redecorating! >... > >I believe there was nothing in the original question that would >resemble "redecorating". It was a polite question about why FreeBSD >had this "feature". > No, it wasn't. Not if you read the entire message context. It was a question along the lines of "how dare you do this" or "what idiot used this" He may not have used those exact words but the meaning was clear. The poster praises the OS on a technical merit and then goes on to raise this issue. What possible basis of selection for a computer operating system IS there OTHER than technical merits? >I am, personally, currently helping my friend to buy and configure a >computer for him and his family. Although I know FreeBSD better than >Linux (and this does not mean I am a FreeBSD guru), I'll be installing >something like Ubuntu on that machine, not FreeBSD, because my friend >and his family are religious men. > Then you sir are doing your friend a disservice. Once this system is setup they will be going to you for help, and your deliberately setting them up with a system you don't know as well - thus you will be less able to help them. My church, First Presbyterian Church of Portland, OR uses several FreeBSD servers for their web/mail/fileserving needs. They also use Macs running MacOS X almost exclusively, and MacOS X was based partly on FreeBSD. And they also have a Win2K server in the mix which comes from Microsoft, who cheated their way into the market, and is a far less honorable organization than any organization which has helped to create FreeBSD. I suppose that in your view, my church (http://www.fpcpdx.org) is less religious than you are. I feel that you have completely missed the entire thrust of Jesus's message. Ted PS And I don't suppose you have a problem with Ubuntu even though many networking utilities that are in it and in Linux came from BSD code, and BSD used the daemon image long before Linux was even a thought in someone's mind. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jul 3 23:38:35 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0E7C716A41C for ; Sun, 3 Jul 2005 23:38:35 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) Received: from mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com (mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [65.75.192.90]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7321C43D48 for ; Sun, 3 Jul 2005 23:38:34 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) Received: from tedwin2k (nat-rtr.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [65.75.197.130]) by mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com (8.11.1/8.11.1) with SMTP id j63NdXb87931; Sun, 3 Jul 2005 16:39:33 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) From: "Ted Mittelstaedt" To: "Dmitry Mityugov" , "Bob Hall" , Date: Sun, 3 Jul 2005 16:38:20 -0700 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.6604 (9.0.2911.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1478 In-Reply-To: Importance: Normal X-Mailman-Approved-At: Mon, 04 Jul 2005 14:02:43 +0000 Cc: Subject: RE: Linux move to FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 03 Jul 2005 23:38:35 -0000 >-----Original Message----- >From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org >[mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]On Behalf Of Dmitry Mityugov >Sent: Sunday, July 03, 2005 3:27 PM >To: Bob Hall; freebsd-questions@freebsd.org >Subject: Re: Linux move to FreeBSD > > >The problem is, my friend lives closer to Europe than to anything >else, and I don't want to dispute with him about what's right and >wrong in his believings. In addition, both "demon" and "daemon" are >translated to the same word in our language, Oh dear you will have to find another operating system then, Ubuntu also has daemon processes. Ted From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jul 4 11:16:19 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 62C2E16A41C; Mon, 4 Jul 2005 11:16:19 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from Robert.Eckardt@Robert-Eckardt.de) Received: from natnoddy.rzone.de (natnoddy.rzone.de [81.169.145.166]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CA68D43D48; Mon, 4 Jul 2005 11:16:18 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from Robert.Eckardt@Robert-Eckardt.de) Received: from postit (p54B103C7.dip0.t-ipconnect.de [84.177.3.199]) (authenticated bits=0) by post.webmailer.de (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id j64BGETp014716; Mon, 4 Jul 2005 13:16:16 +0200 (MEST) Received: from roberte.no-ip.org (localhost.eckardt.org [127.0.0.1]) by postit (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id j64BGD4i069202; Mon, 4 Jul 2005 13:16:13 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from Robert.Eckardt@Robert-Eckardt.de) From: "Robert Eckardt" To: Crucis , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Mon, 4 Jul 2005 13:16:13 +0200 Message-Id: <20050704111452.M55449@Robert-Eckardt.de> In-Reply-To: <79f696580507040303445c9637@mail.gmail.com> References: <79f696580507040303445c9637@mail.gmail.com> X-Mailer: Open WebMail 2.21 20031110 X-OriginatingIP: 83.136.72.5 (roberte) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 X-Mailman-Approved-At: Mon, 04 Jul 2005 14:02:43 +0000 Cc: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Fuser equivalent X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 04 Jul 2005 11:16:19 -0000 On Mon, 4 Jul 2005 18:03:43 +0800, Crucis wrote > Hi, > Is there a BSD equivalent of the Linux "fuser" command? > fuser is used to identify processes using files/sockets. > Thanks in advance try `lsof' (list open files) from the ports. Robert From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jul 4 12:22:26 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0A5A116A41C for ; Mon, 4 Jul 2005 12:22:26 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) Received: from mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com (mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [65.75.192.90]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8B8F943D5C for ; Mon, 4 Jul 2005 12:22:25 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) Received: from tedwin2k (nat-rtr.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [65.75.197.130]) by mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com (8.11.1/8.11.1) with SMTP id j64CNWb90894; Mon, 4 Jul 2005 05:23:32 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) From: "Ted Mittelstaedt" To: "Dmitry Mityugov" Date: Mon, 4 Jul 2005 05:22:19 -0700 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.6604 (9.0.2911.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1478 In-Reply-To: Importance: Normal X-Mailman-Approved-At: Mon, 04 Jul 2005 14:02:43 +0000 Cc: Lane , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: RE: Linux move to FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 04 Jul 2005 12:22:26 -0000 >-----Original Message----- >From: Dmitry Mityugov [mailto:dmitry.mityugov@gmail.com] >Sent: Monday, July 04, 2005 2:17 AM >To: Ted Mittelstaedt >Cc: Lane; freebsd-questions@freebsd.org >Subject: Re: Linux move to FreeBSD > > >On 7/4/05, Ted Mittelstaedt wrote: >... >> >-----Original Message----- >> >From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org >> >[mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]On Behalf Of >Dmitry Mityugov >... >> >I am, personally, currently helping my friend to buy and configure a >> >computer for him and his family. Although I know FreeBSD better than >> >Linux (and this does not mean I am a FreeBSD guru), I'll be >installing >> >something like Ubuntu on that machine, not FreeBSD, because my friend >> >and his family are religious men. >> >> Then you sir are doing your friend a disservice. Once this system is >> setup they will be going to you for help, and your >deliberately setting >> them up with a system you don't know as well - thus you will be less >> able to help them. > >This may also mean that over time, I'll know Ubuntu better than >FreeBSD - we all can study and gather experience, can't we. > Yes, but your original post wasn't to tell the poster to give up on FreeBSD and go back to Linux so he can study and gain experience. It was, in fact, a post giving an example in support of the anti-Beastie feeling of the original poster. In other words you were trying to say the original poster actually has a point about Beastie frightening away some people. In short, you were lending credibility to the absolutely rediculous proposition that the FreeBSD community should pay one whit of attention to the anti-Beastie arguments. And now, when I brought up how this is a bad thing for a perfectly legitimate technical reason that you cannot argue against - you are now trying to twist around your original post so that instead of it being about supporting the O.P.s rediculous point, now it's all about cross-training on a different OS. I don't think so. >> My church, First Presbyterian Church of Portland, OR uses >several FreeBSD >> servers for their web/mail/fileserving needs. They also use >Macs running >> MacOS X almost exclusively, and MacOS X was based partly on >FreeBSD. And >> they also have a Win2K server in the mix which comes from >Microsoft, who >> cheated their way into the market, and is a far less honorable >> organization >> than any organization which has helped to create FreeBSD. >> >> I suppose that in your view, my church (http://www.fpcpdx.org) is less >> religious than you are. I feel that you have completely missed >> the entire thrust of Jesus's message. > >No, no, not at all. I am an atheist trying to help a group of >religious men. Why do you keep saying religious men? If they have a religion that they are identifying that strongly with, you are disrespecting them by not referring to them by the proper name of the religion. Why can't you say "Fundamentalist Christians" or "Moslems" or some such? Do they refer to themselves as "religious men" when people ask them what faith they are? Hmm, haa - maybe I should refer to you as an 'unreligious man' instead of an Atheist? ;-) It is capitalized, by the way. >I don't want to discuss with them how exactly their >devil should look, does it have red skin, horns, pointy tails etc or >not (perhaps for the same reason why I don't discuss with them or >anybody else, including readers of this thread, that there is actually >no God or ethernal soul at all). No one is asking you to do so here. >I just want to help them find an >inexpensive configuration for their first computer. you already have one. FreeBSD. >They (a) don't >know English enough to understand the difference between "demon" and >"daemon" and (b) do feel that the picture of FreeBSD mascot is related >to their religion. This makes it impossible to install FreeBSD on >their machine. > Well, I think your dancing around the issue. Why don't you simply tell them "I know FreeBSD and I don't know Linux, and FreeBSD is what I install - take it or leave it." Certainly you couldn't possibly care what their religious opinion of you is - your an Atheist, remember. Well, you can install what you want, but in addressing the point you were originally supporting with your first post (rather than this clumsy attempt at remaking this thread into a cross-training on Ubuntu is gaining experience, which was never the original point from you or the O.P.) I will leave you with this to think about. I attend the Presbyterian church most Sundays, and contribute a good deal of money and time to it - yet I don't particularly consider myself a Christian, at least not the way that most people in that church would probably define one. There's large chunks of the doctorine I frankly consider to be total bunk. For example, the concept of the virgin birth is rediculous - based on the time and social mores of when it allegedly happened, an unmarried woman would be murdered if found pregnant - quite obviously unmarried woman would do and say anything to explain away a pregnancy. However, I do feel that my own convictions align closer to the central message of Christianity than any other organized religion, that is why I attend. And also, I have found over the years that most Presbyterians are thinkers and most of them don't blindly buy off on every single item of doctorine either. But the most important thing I have found with the churchgoers is that they have personal convictions, and the best ones won't do anything in their private life that violates those. Sure, I think that a fundy Christian that literally interprets the virgin birth concept doesen't get it - but even that person has more personal conviction than you do. You, my friend, profess Atheism, yet when put in a situation where you are asked to bend as a result of some religious belief - a belief that by definition you must consider quite void - you do so. Even a Fundy Christian is better off than you are. If that person was put in a situation where they were asked to install a completely Godless operating system on some Atheists computer, they would probably say Go to Hell. Because, they have convictions, and they hold to them in their personal life. Even though those convictions may be quite idiotic, they have them and follow them. And I respect that even though I'll vote against them and tell them to their face they are completely wrong, and do everything I can to keep them from educating my children that Darwin is evil. But, I would never say they had no honor unless they started violating their own convictions. (such as, being pro states-rights until the Marijuana initatives come along, and things like that, we all know who those honor-less fundies are) You label yourself an Atheist, don't you know what one is? If you really are one, then start following your beliefs. Right now you aren't following through on them in your personal life. If you had any convictions on Atheism when these so-called "religious men" told you they couldn't run FreeBSD because it has a devil on it, you would have told them "I'm sorry but this is a machine, and I believe that machines are nothing other than tools, and cannot be good nor evil, only Man can be good or evil. I do not believe or support the idea that images have any power over anything, that is my conviction, and I cannot help you if you tell me to go against my convictions, any more than you can run FreeBSD if it's imagery goes against your convictions" Then you should are turned on your heel and walked out. And one last comment - if these religious men happen to believe in the Old Testament and the Ten Commandments, I will point out the following Commandment #4 & #5 against worship of graven images. According to this God says people must not worship images - this means they must not make images then endow them with supernatural powers. If a religious person sees an image of a devil, and attributes any SCRAP of power to it - if that image becomes more than simple lines and colors to that person - they have then broken those commandments. They may not be worshiping them but they are still attributing them with power. Ted From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jul 4 02:53:49 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5CF2816A41C for ; Mon, 4 Jul 2005 02:53:49 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from iqgrande@gmail.com) Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.195]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 15DC643D45 for ; Mon, 4 Jul 2005 02:53:48 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from iqgrande@gmail.com) Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id i25so629905wra for ; Sun, 03 Jul 2005 19:53:48 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:in-reply-to:references:mime-version:content-type:message-id:cc:content-transfer-encoding:from:subject:date:to:x-mailer; b=dnMUYIuqLIFGGtZPj91ZQVThRPRbnq8HWA1EbvNYBQ7NJjMb62XfiKsqKca4yshP8b3KWA2PoJIITMDxEyjTQowtC4sUOpnUY/yqw0WJwMZ6eUYopoeLHl68N9p9YD101eRXhKx5a8OzFeQ+k7UJ+WZCqnIcw30V19WbVAVCWbU= Received: by 10.54.84.19 with SMTP id h19mr3413279wrb; Sun, 03 Jul 2005 19:53:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ?192.168.0.2? ([24.30.63.114]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id 16sm5543422wrl.2005.07.03.19.53.47; Sun, 03 Jul 2005 19:53:47 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <20050703182218.GB79411@logik.ath.cx> References: <20050630001004.GA60781@logik.ath.cx> <42C3BB88.60609@dial.pipex.com> <42C73D17.3080208@dial.pipex.com> <20050703182218.GB79411@logik.ath.cx> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v730) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: <5095AEAE-708B-4936-873C-5B932EF75FB6@gmail.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: "Anthony M. Agelastos" Date: Sun, 3 Jul 2005 22:53:43 -0400 To: markzero X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.730) X-Mailman-Approved-At: Mon, 04 Jul 2005 14:03:14 +0000 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, Alex Zbyslaw Subject: Re: NVIDIA TNT2 woes X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 04 Jul 2005 02:53:49 -0000 On Jul 3, 2005, at 2:22 PM, markzero wrote: >>> (WW) The NVIDIA RIVA TNT2 Model 64/Model 64 Pro GPU installed in >>> (WW) this system is supported through the NVIDIA Legacy >>> (WW) drivers. Please visit >>> (WW) http://www.nvidia.com/object/unix.html for more >>> (WW) information. The 1.0-7667 NVIDIA driver will ignore this >>> (WW) GPU. Continuing probe... (EE) No devices detected. >>> >>> The NVIDIA Legacy drivers magically fail to exist on the NVIDIA >>> site and there appears no be no port for them either. >>> >>> >> >> I was exploring the latest nvidia driver and came across this page. >> http://www.nvidia.com/object/freebsd_archive.html >> Isn't 7174 or 6113 the legacy driver you are after? >> >> --Alex >> >> > > Well, yes they are the older drivers that would work, but the above > message gave me the impression that NVIDIA were going to be > maintaining > a seperate set of legacy drivers. > > Not that it really matters now, the nv driver seems to be more solid > and allows me to run my monitor at the resolution I'm actually > supposed > to be able to run it at (the proprietary drivers had a long unfixed > bug > that limited my maximum resolution). I get no apparent performance > decrease on glxgears either (which is about the limit of my GL usage > nowadays!). glxgears works for you with the nv driver? I cannot get it to work for me (I have a RIVA TNT as opposed to your RIVA TNT 2). Could you post your xorg.conf? I have the line Load "glx" in the "Module" Section. Perhaps the nv driver works much better than for the TNT 2 as opposed to the TNT? Thank you for your help and thank you to the whole list for the support and replies. > > Cheers, > M > > -- > pgp: http://www.darklogik.org/pub/pgp/pgp.txt > B776 43DC 8A5D EAF9 2126 9A67 A7DA 390F DEFF 9dD1 > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jul 4 14:05:56 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A598416A41C for ; Mon, 4 Jul 2005 14:05:56 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from crucis@gmail.com) Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.200]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 45F6143D53 for ; Mon, 4 Jul 2005 14:05:56 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from crucis@gmail.com) Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id i21so686797wra for ; Mon, 04 Jul 2005 07:05:55 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=q+2pKGQmLVxm5UQMw+qD30u1/Yr4gQak277WZKxox9zWKf9K9jk37OcpzfY6XTu8ftmpQIcuyZl9fIy8aEOWR/fgj1IxwCs/NSZxj6CIY2kXYeXugP9UHiUH/EgxRrY2IWq7XQuF+FHpecuRz5XGwWA1ToAO47uW1int9UYCMjw= Received: by 10.54.80.7 with SMTP id d7mr2096577wrb; Mon, 04 Jul 2005 07:05:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.31.23 with HTTP; Mon, 4 Jul 2005 07:05:55 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <79f696580507040705122dfbd5@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 4 Jul 2005 22:05:55 +0800 From: Crucis Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <79f696580507040704313c5446@mail.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 References: <79f696580507040303445c9637@mail.gmail.com> <42C92200.1070309@landgren.net> <79f696580507040704313c5446@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: Re: Fuser equivalent X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Crucis List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 04 Jul 2005 14:05:56 -0000 Thanks :D On 7/4/05, Crucis wrote: >=20 > Thanks :D >=20 > On 7/4/05, David Landgren wrote: > >=20 > > Crucis wrote: > > > Hi, > > > Is there a BSD equivalent of the Linux "fuser" command? > > > fuser is used to identify processes using files/sockets. > > > Thanks in advance > >=20 > > lsof? > >=20 > > Available in ports=20 > >=20 > > David > >=20 > >=20 > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jul 4 14:23:58 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AE2F316A41C for ; Mon, 4 Jul 2005 14:23:58 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from csaba@beastie.creo.hu) Received: from beastie.creo.hu (www.creo.hu [217.113.62.14]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2483E43D45 for ; Mon, 4 Jul 2005 14:23:57 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from csaba@beastie.creo.hu) Received: from beastie.creo.hu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by beastie.creo.hu (8.13.3/8.13.3) with ESMTP id j64ENLl0051857 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Mon, 4 Jul 2005 16:23:21 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from csaba@beastie.creo.hu) Received: (from csaba@localhost) by beastie.creo.hu (8.13.3/8.13.3/Submit) id j64ENLVu051856 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 4 Jul 2005 16:23:21 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from csaba) Date: Mon, 4 Jul 2005 16:23:21 +0200 From: Csaba Henk To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20050704142321.GI85474@beastie.creo.hu> References: <79f696580507040303445c9637@mail.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <79f696580507040303445c9637@mail.gmail.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.9i Subject: Re: Fuser equivalent X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 04 Jul 2005 14:23:58 -0000 On Mon, Jul 04, 2005 at 06:03:43PM +0800, Crucis wrote: > Is there a BSD equivalent of the Linux "fuser" command? > fuser is used to identify processes using files/sockets.i There is fstat in the base system. Csaba From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jul 4 14:32:26 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DEAED16A41C for ; Mon, 4 Jul 2005 14:32:26 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from aj39af95b7@tampabay.rr.com) Received: from ms-smtp-01.tampabay.rr.com (ms-smtp-01-smtplb.tampabay.rr.com [65.32.5.131]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A105D43D49 for ; Mon, 4 Jul 2005 14:32:26 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from aj39af95b7@tampabay.rr.com) Received: from moe.howard (6532128hfc43.tampabay.res.rr.com [65.32.128.43]) by ms-smtp-01.tampabay.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id j64EWMEg001096 for ; Mon, 4 Jul 2005 10:32:23 -0400 (EDT) Received: from moe.howard (localhost.howard [127.0.0.1]) by moe.howard (8.13.3/8.13.3) with ESMTP id j64EcBAv003415 for ; Mon, 4 Jul 2005 10:38:12 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from aj39af95b7@tampabay.rr.com) Received: (from walter@localhost) by moe.howard (8.13.3/8.13.3/Submit) id j64Ec9iD003414 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 4 Jul 2005 10:38:10 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from aj39af95b7@tampabay.rr.com) X-Authentication-Warning: moe.howard: walter set sender to aj39af95b7@tampabay.rr.com using -f Date: Mon, 4 Jul 2005 10:38:09 -0400 From: Al Johnson To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20050704143809.GA789@bhunter.net> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i X-URL: http://www.landoverbaptist.org X-Virus-Scanned: Symantec AntiVirus Scan Engine Subject: Re: Linux move to FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 04 Jul 2005 14:32:27 -0000 On Sun, Jul 03, 2005 at 04:36:49PM -0700, Ted Mittelstaedt wrote: >Blah... Ted, you're among the easiest troll bait I've seen, and I've seen the whole spectrum of trollees. -- "If the ends don't justify the means, what does? -- Robert Moses From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jul 4 14:37:06 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: questions@FreeBSD.ORG Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2BA9416A41C for ; Mon, 4 Jul 2005 14:37:06 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from mrl0lz@gmail.com) Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.193]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E0D1D43D45 for ; Mon, 4 Jul 2005 14:37:05 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from mrl0lz@gmail.com) Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id i31so702866wra for ; Mon, 04 Jul 2005 07:37:05 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:mime-version:content-type; b=SMi8OQHW92ghz+A7Ni/+2eMfJ8Zvs2zyvdsdzGQeiCbktYl/11l+6MU/NUpzJx3DN9l95VRUUSULWbazOxlfm2rVsIHKqUFPWtuEHPkSJIj0G7aj01qXWr3kiau2rc1fBlc1bsGym3WwQfpkzvTSQ12iGlYmas8MPI6JGZZkOIg= Received: by 10.54.31.49 with SMTP id e49mr257958wre; Mon, 04 Jul 2005 07:37:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.98.6 with HTTP; Mon, 4 Jul 2005 07:37:02 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Mon, 4 Jul 2005 07:37:02 -0700 From: Remington L To: questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: Subject: News Article: FreeBSD Security X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Remington L List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 04 Jul 2005 14:37:06 -0000 We might want to update the "FreeBSD Press" section. This is a recent=20 article from SecurityFocus which discusses FreeBSD security vs Linux http://www.securityfocus.com/news/11230 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jul 4 14:38:23 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3451D16A41C for ; Mon, 4 Jul 2005 14:38:23 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from norgaard@locolomo.org) Received: from top.daemonsecurity.com (62-14-217-85.inversas.jazztel.es [62.14.217.85]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CFEBC43D4C for ; Mon, 4 Jul 2005 14:38:22 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from norgaard@locolomo.org) Received: from [192.168.0.64] (unknown [192.168.0.64]) by top.daemonsecurity.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id DDAA9FD06B for ; Mon, 4 Jul 2005 16:37:02 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <42C949D1.5090107@locolomo.org> Date: Mon, 04 Jul 2005 16:38:09 +0200 From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Erik_N=F8rgaard?= Organization: Locolomo.ORG User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.2 (X11/20050529) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: FreeBSD Questions Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Subject: dhclient.conf for wireless interface X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 04 Jul 2005 14:38:23 -0000 Hi, I am trying to configure dhclient to associate with the correct accesspoint, I use FreeBSD Current with the new dhclient ported from OpenBSD. The examples I can find mentions that I should create an entry in my dhclient.conf like this: interface "ath0" { media "ssid AP1 mode 11g", "ssid AP2 mode 11g"; } and dhclient will then first try to associate with AP1 and then AP2. The problem is that with that setup dhclient enters into an aparently infinite loop bringing up and down the interface, until I break it. I have to manually run 'ifconfig ssid AP1 mode 11g' first. Can anyone point me to the correct manpage for configuring dhclient? This is not covered in the dhclient.conf(5) dhclient(8) ifconfig(8) or ath(4) man-pages. I have a 3Com wireless NIC, broadcom AP, my dhcp server is isc-dhcp v.3 running on FBSD 5.4. I usually get associated with my neighbours 3Com AP running with a default setup. Thanks, Erik -- Ph: +34.666334818 web: http://www.locolomo.org S/MIME Certificate: http://www.locolomo.org/crt/2004071206.crt Subject ID: A9:76:7A:ED:06:95:2B:8D:48:97:CE:F2:3F:42:C8:F2:22:DE:4C:B9 Fingerprint: 4A:E8:63:38:46:F6:9A:5D:B4:DC:29:41:3F:62:D3:0A:73:25:67:C2 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jul 4 15:25:08 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6FA8A16A41C for ; Mon, 4 Jul 2005 15:25:08 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from iqgrande@gmail.com) Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.207]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 27CC443D49 for ; Mon, 4 Jul 2005 15:25:08 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from iqgrande@gmail.com) Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 8so369739nzo for ; Mon, 04 Jul 2005 08:25:07 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:content-type:message-id:content-transfer-encoding:from:subject:date:to:x-mailer; b=F0g2knWDPa2N8zQX8b/Xn908D8/SlatqP9S1JSFxlETKeg+ElM3wG84w+4E+16I/BmzAJtCONv7nl2xb/kXgkQ4A2Igfh1hgAt6SIQp64sSg1i4fKPbmpne3rRxn3Z9QXqQNffNLtJRVzJ1KO5dTk3vW51L/eXMn3Whz22ZgSM8= Received: by 10.36.58.15 with SMTP id g15mr1415579nza; Mon, 04 Jul 2005 08:01:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ?192.168.0.2? ([24.30.63.114]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id 40sm1147073nzf.2005.07.04.08.01.02; Mon, 04 Jul 2005 08:01:02 -0700 (PDT) Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v730) In-Reply-To: <20050704032455.GA76514@logik.ath.cx> References: <20050630001004.GA60781@logik.ath.cx> <42C3BB88.60609@dial.pipex.com> <42C73D17.3080208@dial.pipex.com> <20050703182218.GB79411@logik.ath.cx> <5095AEAE-708B-4936-873C-5B932EF75FB6@gmail.com> <20050704032455.GA76514@logik.ath.cx> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: <7A4A588A-D5CE-455C-9EE3-E464AFFF4A45@gmail.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: "Anthony M. Agelastos" Date: Mon, 4 Jul 2005 11:01:00 -0400 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.730) Subject: Re: NVIDIA TNT2 woes X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 04 Jul 2005 15:25:08 -0000 On Jul 3, 2005, at 11:24 PM, markzero wrote: > On Sun, Jul 03, 2005 at 10:53:43PM -0400, Anthony M. Agelastos wrote: > >> >> glxgears works for you with the nv driver? I cannot get it to work >> for me (I have a RIVA TNT as opposed to your RIVA TNT 2). Could you >> post your xorg.conf? I have the line Load "glx" in the "Module" >> Section. Perhaps the nv driver works much better than for the TNT 2 >> as opposed to the TNT? Thank you for your help and thank you to the >> whole list for the support and replies. >> >> > > $ uname -smr > FreeBSD 5.4-RELEASE-p2 i386 > > $ X -version > X Window System Version 6.8.2 > Release Date: 9 February 2005 > X Protocol Version 11, Revision 0, Release 6.8.2 > Build Operating System: FreeBSD 5.4 i386 [ELF] > Current Operating System: FreeBSD xxx.xxx.xxx 5.4-RELEASE-p2 > FreeBSD 5.4-RELEASE-p2 #1: Sun Jun 12 16:17:58 BST 2005 > root@xxx.xxx.xxx:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/LOGIK006 i386 > Build Date: 30 June 2005 > Before reporting problems, check http://wiki.X.Org > to make sure that you have the latest version. > Module Loader present > > $ glxgears -info > GL_MAX_VIEWPORT_DIMS=4096/4096 > GL_RENDERER = Mesa GLX Indirect > GL_VERSION = 1.2 (1.5 Mesa 6.1) > GL_VENDOR = Mesa project: www.mesa3d.org > > 858 frames in 5.0 seconds = 171.600 FPS > > Xorg.conf follows... > > --- > Section "ServerLayout" > Identifier "x1" > Screen 0 "Screen0" 0 0 > InputDevice "Mouse0" "CorePointer" > InputDevice "Keyboard0" "CoreKeyboard" > EndSection > > Section "Files" > RgbPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/rgb" > ModulePath "/usr/X11R6/lib/modules" > FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/misc/" > FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/TTF/" > FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/Type1/" > FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/CID/" > FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi/" > FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi/" > EndSection > > Section "Module" > Load "extmod" > Load "glx" > Load "dri" > Load "dbe" > Load "record" > Load "xtrap" > Load "type1" > Load "freetype" > EndSection > > Section "InputDevice" > Identifier "Mouse0" > Driver "mouse" > Option "Protocol" "Auto" > Option "Device" "/dev/sysmouse" > Option "Buttons" "5" > Option "ZAxisMapping" "4 5" > EndSection > > Section "InputDevice" > Identifier "Keyboard0" > Driver "keyboard" > Option "XkbRules" "xorg" > Option "XkbModel" "pc101" > Option "XkbLayout" "gb" > EndSection > > Section "Monitor" > > #DisplaySize 320 240 # mm > Identifier "Monitor0" > VendorName "MAX" > ModelName "be0" > Option "DPMS" > EndSection > > Section "Device" > > ### Available Driver options are:- > ### Values: : integer, : float, : "True"/"False", > ### : "String", : " Hz/kHz/MHz" > ### [arg]: arg optional > #Option "SWcursor" # [] > #Option "HWcursor" # [] > #Option "NoAccel" # [] > #Option "ShadowFB" # [] > #Option "UseFBDev" # [] > #Option "Rotate" # [] > #Option "VideoKey" # > #Option "FlatPanel" # [] > #Option "FPDither" # [] > #Option "CrtcNumber" # > #Option "FPScale" # [] > #Option "FPTweak" # > Identifier "Card0" > Driver "nv" > VendorName "nVidia Corporation" > BoardName "NV5M64 [RIVA TNT2 Model 64/Model 64 Pro]" > BusID "PCI:2:0:0" > EndSection > > Section "Screen" > Identifier "Screen0" > Device "Card0" > Monitor "Monitor0" > SubSection "Display" > Viewport 0 0 > Depth 1 > EndSubSection > SubSection "Display" > Viewport 0 0 > Depth 4 > EndSubSection > SubSection "Display" > Viewport 0 0 > Depth 8 > EndSubSection > SubSection "Display" > Viewport 0 0 > Depth 15 > EndSubSection > SubSection "Display" > Viewport 0 0 > Depth 16 > EndSubSection > SubSection "Display" > Viewport 0 0 > Depth 24 > EndSubSection > EndSection > As my xorg.conf looks just about identical, does anyone on the list have a nvidia RIVA TNT where their OpenGL works through the nv driver? If so, I would like to figure out what makes it work for you and not for me. > --- > > M > > -- > pgp: http://www.darklogik.org/pub/pgp/pgp.txt > B776 43DC 8A5D EAF9 2126 9A67 A7DA 390F DEFF 9dD1 > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jul 4 15:27:14 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E892816A41C for ; Mon, 4 Jul 2005 15:27:13 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from torstenvl@gmail.com) Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.206]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9599743D45 for ; Mon, 4 Jul 2005 15:27:13 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from torstenvl@gmail.com) Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id i4so745221wra for ; Mon, 04 Jul 2005 08:27:12 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=cdPZYSuoLZHD6U12zrDFZCBo1mh4Sk1KUYnuh3/XfT55Zi+in/oZ8vSFbU+9W8upSBKrSrUfVuoYP6I5Lq026bQSl71HOZHOWg/F2xWXHydQBkxRwZ74SgdzZoUnGwomOHvyC8ePpcU3MPzTayRD4MUZ+RsA8lA2h8zzRuqGHB8= Received: by 10.54.53.25 with SMTP id b25mr3619939wra; Mon, 04 Jul 2005 08:27:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.11.4 with HTTP; Mon, 4 Jul 2005 08:27:09 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <126eac4805070408273c0de8ce@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 4 Jul 2005 11:27:11 -0400 From: Josh Ockert To: Bryan Maynard In-Reply-To: <200507031500.35157.bryan.maynard@reallm.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline References: <200507031500.35157.bryan.maynard@reallm.com> Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD 5.4 ndis support X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Josh Ockert List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 04 Jul 2005 15:27:14 -0000 On 7/3/05, Bryan Maynard wrote: > I've been having issues with ndis myself. However, I got some help and th= ings > are going good for me, except that i haven't gotten DHCP to work for the > card. . . >=20 > Anyway, there is a utility in 5.4 (I think that's that's where it showed = up) > called "ndisgen". Running ndisgen steps you through a wonderful little sc= ript > that asks for for the location of your INF and SYS files, generates you .= h > file and kernel module. >=20 > I was getting the same "No such file or directory" error until I ran ndis= gen. >=20 > Give it a try. :-D >=20 > Bryan >=20 > On Sunday 03 July 2005 10:10 am, Tobias Tom wrote: > Hello everyone, >=20 > I'm using FreeBSD for some years now. I've read the german Mailinglist > for nearly the same time. But I've got a Problem which no one can > reproduce, or no one know any solution. >=20 > I want to use my Level One wnc 0301 WLAN PCI Card in my FreeBSD box > with acts as a Router in my small Home Network. > I've found no drivers or buildin support for that Card. Google, and > the Manufactor told me that it is using the raltech rt2500 chip. I > found a page where someone builds a driver for FreeBSD CURRENT, but it > is not portable for the 5.x branch. >=20 > Someone told me that I could use the ndis Feature which occured in > FreeBSD 5.3. I'm not sure how happy I am with Windows Drivers on my > FreeBSD Box, but for now i don't see any alternative. >=20 > So I tried to get ndis Support up like it is described inside the > Manual, and inside the first commit Message of the Files. Building > seems to work really fine. I've created the ndis_driver_data.h from my > driver INF and Driver SYS. Ran make && make install and everything was > finished without any error. >=20 > Then I tried to load the ndis support with "kldload ndis". It results > into the following Error Message: "kldload: can't load ndis: No such > file or directory" So I looked it the file is really not existing. But > it exists, ls output is: > "-rwxr-xr-x 1 root wheel 91686 Jul 3 15:37 > /usr/src/sys/modules/ndis/ndis.ko" > So I looked into dmesg and saw the following Error: >=20 > link_elf: symbol VOP_GETATTR_APV undefined > KLD if_ndis.ko: depends on ndisapi - not available >=20 > After I could not get something usefull out for me (others might be > more successfull ;o) I looked again into the man page of ndis. Under > Synopsis the following lines are written down: > options NDISAPI > device ndis > device wlan >=20 > So I though when i cannot build ndis as module, or maybe the ndisapi > come directly from the kernel, i could build my custom kernel with > these options. It stoped with these Lines: >=20 > cc -c -O -pipe -Wall -Wredundant-decls -Wnested-externs > -Wstrict-prototypes -Wmissing-prototypes -Wpointer-arith -Winline > -Wcast-qual -fformat-extensions -std=3Dc99 -nostdinc -I- -I. > -I/usr/src/sys -I/usr/src/sys/contrib/dev/acpica > -I/usr/src/sys/contrib/altq -I/usr/src/sys/contrib/ipfilter > -I/usr/src/sys/contrib/pf -I/usr/src/sys/contrib/dev/ath > -I/usr/src/sys/contrib/dev/ath/freebsd -I/usr/src/sys/contrib/ngatm > -I/usr/src/sys/dev/twa -D_KERNEL -include opt_global.h -fno-common > -finline-limit=3D8000 --param inline-unit-growth=3D100 --param > large-function-growth=3D1000 -mno-align-long-strings > -mpreferred-stack-boundary=3D2 -mno-mmx -mno-3dnow -mno-sse -mno-sse2 > -ffreestanding -Werror /usr/src/sys/compat/ndis/subr_ntoskrnl.c > /usr/src/sys/compat/ndis/subr_ntoskrnl.c: In function `KeRemoveQueueDpc'= : > /usr/src/sys/compat/ndis/subr_ntoskrnl.c:3115: warning: dereferencing > `void *' pointer > /usr/src/sys/compat/ndis/subr_ntoskrnl.c:3115: error: request for > member `mtx_lock' in something not a structure or union > /usr/src/sys/compat/ndis/subr_ntoskrnl.c:3115: warning: dereferencing > `void *' pointer > /usr/src/sys/compat/ndis/subr_ntoskrnl.c:3115: error: request for > member `mtx_recurse' in something not a structure or union > /usr/src/sys/compat/ndis/subr_ntoskrnl.c:3115: warning: dereferencing > `void *' pointer > /usr/src/sys/compat/ndis/subr_ntoskrnl.c:3115: error: request for > member `mtx_lock' in something not a structure or union > /usr/src/sys/compat/ndis/subr_ntoskrnl.c:3117: warning: dereferencing > `void *' pointer > /usr/src/sys/compat/ndis/subr_ntoskrnl.c:3117: error: request for > member `mtx_recurse' in something not a structure or union > /usr/src/sys/compat/ndis/subr_ntoskrnl.c:3117: warning: dereferencing > `void *' pointer > /usr/src/sys/compat/ndis/subr_ntoskrnl.c:3117: error: request for > member `mtx_recurse' in something not a structure or union > /usr/src/sys/compat/ndis/subr_ntoskrnl.c:3117: warning: dereferencing > `void *' pointer > /usr/src/sys/compat/ndis/subr_ntoskrnl.c:3117: error: request for > member `mtx_lock' in something not a structure or union > /usr/src/sys/compat/ndis/subr_ntoskrnl.c:3123: warning: dereferencing > `void *' pointer > /usr/src/sys/compat/ndis/subr_ntoskrnl.c:3123: error: request for > member `mtx_recurse' in something not a structure or union > /usr/src/sys/compat/ndis/subr_ntoskrnl.c:3123: warning: dereferencing > `void *' pointer > /usr/src/sys/compat/ndis/subr_ntoskrnl.c:3123: error: request for > member `mtx_recurse' in something not a structure or union > /usr/src/sys/compat/ndis/subr_ntoskrnl.c:3123: warning: dereferencing > `void *' pointer > /usr/src/sys/compat/ndis/subr_ntoskrnl.c:3123: error: request for > member `mtx_lock' in something not a structure or union > *** Error code 1 > Stop in /usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GATE. > *** Error code 1 > Stop in /usr/src. > *** Error code 1 > Stop in /usr/src. >=20 > Building my custom Kernel without the three Lines worked wonderfull. > So I have really no Idea what I can do next. Maybe here's someone how > knows any step i missed, or which Problem can couse the Error. > It is not very Importent for me it the ndis support runs in he kernel > or as module... main issue is to get this damm card to work ;o) >=20 > Maybe this might be usefull, too. Just did a cvsup for about 10 > Minutes and got the same error. The only part which I added to my > custom kernel config is the IPFW Part. >=20 > Just some short words about FreeBSD Current. I've booted with the june > snapshot and the card was detechted fine. >=20 > Please don't let my stay in the rain with this Problem. ;o) >=20 > Regards >=20 > Tobias > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.= org" >=20 >=20 > -- > Open Source: by the people, for the people. > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.o= rg" >=20 Note: I've never done NDIS before as I have a Cisco PCM-352 which is supported under FreeBSD. However, I'll offer my thoughts in case they help: a) I'm not so sure building anything into the kernel would help as opposed to it being a module. I generally wait til I've tested the module and found that it works well before I compile it into the kernel, and only then for speed purposes. b) If you have a MODULES_OVERRIDE in your kernel config, it won't build/install any modules you don't list there. Try commenting out MODULES_OVERRIDE in your kernel config if it's there and rebuild your kernel. If that works, problem solved. --=20 Josh Ockert WMU Student: French Linguistics, Computer Science -- The irony in biblical creationists' rhetoric of implicitly claiming that God's universe is so chaotic that carbon decays at erratic rates is too delicious to ignore. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jul 4 15:55:37 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3D27016A41C for ; Mon, 4 Jul 2005 15:55:37 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from fbsd_user@a1poweruser.com) Received: from mta9.adelphia.net (mta9.adelphia.net [68.168.78.199]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E921C43D48 for ; Mon, 4 Jul 2005 15:55:36 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from fbsd_user@a1poweruser.com) Received: from barbish ([69.172.31.81]) by mta9.adelphia.net (InterMail vM.6.01.04.01 201-2131-118-101-20041129) with SMTP id <20050704155536.WJGL29002.mta9.adelphia.net@barbish> for ; Mon, 4 Jul 2005 11:55:36 -0400 From: "fbsd_user" To: "freebsd-questions@FreeBSD. ORG" Date: Mon, 4 Jul 2005 11:55:31 -0400 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.6604 (9.0.2911.0) Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1409 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: Subject: PF firewall using anchors X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: fbsd_user@a1poweruser.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 04 Jul 2005 15:55:37 -0000 I am running 5.4 using the run time loadable module for PF firewall. The PF rules load and work fine. The main rule set contains 2 anchor rules. I can add rules to the in core anchor name and then list the anchor and see the rules are really there. Problem is the anchor rules are never being executed by the main rule set. Is there anybody on this questions list who has PF working with anchors? Have read all the PF man pages 6-8 times and my config seems ok. Knowing that PF is new to FreeBSD base in 5.4 thinking this may be a bug. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jul 4 16:11:26 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E7DD016A41C for ; Mon, 4 Jul 2005 16:11:25 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from mrl0lz@gmail.com) Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.205]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A120D43D46 for ; Mon, 4 Jul 2005 16:11:25 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from mrl0lz@gmail.com) Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id i21so706894wra for ; Mon, 04 Jul 2005 09:11:24 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=TXeoGutdsQye6CvULXON90VvDVHOVZ8B8OitUQuDsZTT93z7ArH7UwSFK3Xt48rwW/nbr4OXwS5c8yhgTWDxm/rWuw98Jq9CtAWH+UJjzwCMHJ9G3PDlv82zkxgAGsx5NqJjsVlT68y2EWx8fe2GQ0yZeaxbhRMJynDHZvLNDT0= Received: by 10.54.31.57 with SMTP id e57mr1953060wre; Mon, 04 Jul 2005 09:11:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.98.6 with HTTP; Mon, 4 Jul 2005 09:11:24 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Mon, 4 Jul 2005 09:11:24 -0700 From: Remington L To: Michael Dexter In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: List all make targets? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Remington L List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 04 Jul 2005 16:11:26 -0000 On 7/4/05, Michael Dexter wrote: >=20 >=20 > Hello all, >=20 > I am sure I saw this somewhere and even added it to my notes but > neither I nor Google can find it for the life of us... or I dreamt > it... >=20 > Is there a 'make' flag to list all make targets for any given > directory containing Makefile* ? >=20 > Appreciated! >=20 > On the same topic, can anyone recommend an IDE or utility that can > help me navigate the make hierarchy used by 'build/installworld' and > 'release?' >=20 > It's a brilliant mechanism but I get lost chasing variables that may > span /usr/src/Makefile.inc1 and /usr/share/mk/ and... >=20 > Thanks! >=20 > Michael > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to " > freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" I assume your talking about make in /usr/src. cat the Makefile and it'll=20 tell you From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jul 4 16:52:39 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6828416A41C for ; Mon, 4 Jul 2005 16:52:39 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from cswiger@mac.com) Received: from pi.codefab.com (pi.codefab.com [199.103.21.227]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2A0F243D49 for ; Mon, 4 Jul 2005 16:52:39 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from cswiger@mac.com) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pi.codefab.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5A4135F77; Mon, 4 Jul 2005 12:52:38 -0400 (EDT) Received: from pi.codefab.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (pi.codefab.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 94995-03; Mon, 4 Jul 2005 12:52:28 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [192.168.1.3] (pool-68-161-54-113.ny325.east.verizon.net [68.161.54.113]) by pi.codefab.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 364A05C69; Mon, 4 Jul 2005 12:52:27 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <42C96953.9020406@mac.com> Date: Mon, 04 Jul 2005 12:52:35 -0400 From: Chuck Swiger Organization: The Courts of Chaos User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.8) Gecko/20050511 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Michael Dexter References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at codefab.com Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: List all make targets? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 04 Jul 2005 16:52:39 -0000 Michael Dexter wrote: > Is there a 'make' flag to list all make targets for any given directory > containing Makefile* ? grep ':' Makefile ...comes pretty close. > Appreciated! > > On the same topic, can anyone recommend an IDE or utility that can help > me navigate the make hierarchy used by 'build/installworld' and 'release?' An IDE would simply provide a graphic front end that invokes the make commands underneath. It wouldn't make the process less complex. > It's a brilliant mechanism but I get lost chasing variables that may > span /usr/src/Makefile.inc1 and /usr/share/mk/ and... What problem are you trying to solve? You don't need to read all of that to use it, any more than a developer needs to understand each and every header file in order to use #include . -- -Chuck From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jul 4 17:18:45 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 61FBA16A41C for ; Mon, 4 Jul 2005 17:18:45 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from xxxlucasxxx@canoemail.com) Received: from c0mailgw05.prontomail.com (c0mailgwalt.prontomail.com [207.183.238.110]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 46DA543D46 for ; Mon, 4 Jul 2005 17:18:45 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from xxxlucasxxx@canoemail.com) Received: from c0web102 (c0mailgwalt.prontomail.com [207.183.238.110]) by c0mailgw05.prontomail.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id j64HIid10832 for ; Mon, 4 Jul 2005 10:18:44 -0700 X-Version: canoe 6.2.2329.0 From: "Lucas" Message-Id: <5A041B1110310BF4CA70B9B0ED1EE991@xxxlucasxxx.canoemail.com> Date: Mon, 4 Jul 2005 10:18:45 -0700 X-Priority: 3 Priority: Normal X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailer: Web Based Pronto Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: ca.freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 04 Jul 2005 17:18:45 -0000 Hi all, I thought I would go to a local mirror and see what's new with the logo contest, so I punched in 'ca.freebsd.org' and I got a real ugly website. (As a note I should have punched in www.ca.freebsd.org) I suggest you try it as well. It ended up pointing me to 'http://www.doctordomain.net/unconfigured.html?' I don't think the freebsd team is meaning to pimp out bad urls to a domain company. I tried some others like 'pootie.freebsd.org', 'us.freebsd.org', etc. None of these pushed me to the domain register, they just failed. Here is my dig output: $ dig ca.freebsd.org ANY ; <<>> DiG 9.2.3 <<>> ca.freebsd.org ANY ;; global options: printcmd ;; Got answer: ;; ->>HEADER<<- opcode: QUERY, status: NOERROR, id: 19000 ;; flags: qr rd ra; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 6, AUTHORITY: 0, ADDITIONAL: 0 ;; QUESTION SECTION: ;ca.freebsd.org. IN ANY ;; ANSWER SECTION: ca.freebsd.org. 86400 IN NS ns1.9trackmind.com. ca.freebsd.org. 86400 IN NS ns2.9trackmind.com. ca.freebsd.org. 86400 IN MX 20 mx2.9trackmind.com. ca.freebsd.org. 86400 IN MX 10 mail.ca.freebsd.org. ca.freebsd.org. 86400 IN A 206.223.168.22 ca.freebsd.org. 86400 IN SOA ns1.9trackmind.com. domains.doctordomain.net. 2005062200 3600 1800 604800 3600 ;; Query time: 368 msec ;; SERVER: 64.59.144.18#53(64.59.144.18) ;; WHEN: Mon Jul 4 09:53:55 2005 ;; MSG SIZE rcvd: 199 So is this normal or is this some kind hijacking by internet terrorists? Should our American peers contact Homeland Security about the porous Canadian border? Ha, ha - Happy July 4th! Lucas Sign up today for your Free E-mail at: http://www.canoe.ca/CanoeMail From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jul 4 17:24:02 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7E3DF16A41C for ; Mon, 4 Jul 2005 17:24:02 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from veldy@veldy.net) Received: from veldy.net (fuggle.veldy.net [209.240.64.129]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 44A7043D46 for ; Mon, 4 Jul 2005 17:24:02 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from veldy@veldy.net) Received: from localhost (localhost.veldy.net [127.0.0.1]) by veldy.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 505D71F; Mon, 4 Jul 2005 12:24:01 -0500 (CDT) Received: from veldy.net ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (fuggle.veldy.net [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 22701-04; Mon, 4 Jul 2005 12:23:53 -0500 (CDT) Received: from [127.0.0.1] (cascade.veldy.net [192.168.1.1]) by veldy.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5E7F11D; Mon, 4 Jul 2005 12:23:53 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <42C970A3.7050601@veldy.net> Date: Mon, 04 Jul 2005 12:23:47 -0500 From: "Thomas T. Veldhouse" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.8) Gecko/20050511 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Lucas , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <5A041B1110310BF4CA70B9B0ED1EE991@xxxlucasxxx.canoemail.com> In-Reply-To: <5A041B1110310BF4CA70B9B0ED1EE991@xxxlucasxxx.canoemail.com> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.92.0.0 OpenPGP: id=761FD300 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="------------enig418D2CF613FA7C833A5F06FE" X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at veldy.net Cc: Subject: Re: ca.freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 04 Jul 2005 17:24:02 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) --------------enig418D2CF613FA7C833A5F06FE Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Lucas wrote: >Hi all, > >I thought I would go to a local mirror and see what's new with the >logo contest, so I punched in 'ca.freebsd.org' and I got a real ugly >website. (As a note I should have punched in www.ca.freebsd.org) I >suggest you try it as well. It ended up pointing me to >'http://www.doctordomain.net/unconfigured.html?' > > I just clicked the www.ca.freebsd.org link directly from your email and it worked fine; it took me to the FreeBSD Canada site. I did NOT click the doctordomain link [why bother]. Tom Veldhouse --------------enig418D2CF613FA7C833A5F06FE Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.1 (MingW32) iD8DBQFCyXCnARgTFXYf0wARAmyLAKCTkUGUu13SNexD2W2hcORLSZghlQCfeMWt nq35WumTAakSbPf2FoIkzXk= =v/o0 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --------------enig418D2CF613FA7C833A5F06FE-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jul 4 17:28:06 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 16C6916A41C for ; Mon, 4 Jul 2005 17:28:06 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jdyke@azimapower.com) Received: from extgw01.msys.intellispace.net (extgw01.msys.intellispace.net [160.79.150.226]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E262E43D4C for ; Mon, 4 Jul 2005 17:28:05 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jdyke@azimapower.com) Received: from malone.intellispace.net (malone.intellispace.net [160.79.145.141]) by extgw01.msys.intellispace.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id ECB99C4EF9 for ; Mon, 4 Jul 2005 13:27:50 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [192.168.2.45] (66.9.108.98) by malone.intellispace.net (5.1.053) id 42C690CE000B1917 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 4 Jul 2005 13:26:38 -0400 Message-ID: <42C97198.1070007@azimapower.com> Date: Mon, 04 Jul 2005 17:27:52 +0000 From: jdyke Organization: Azima Inc. User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (Windows/20041206) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: rebuild of a jail uses old DESTDIR X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: jdyke@azimapower.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 04 Jul 2005 17:28:06 -0000 i had built a jail a few weeks ago as a learning expierence, specifying a DESTDIR of /usr/jail/ssh for make world, i don't really want it to reside there long term and want to build it with less features enabled in make.conf. So now I'm trying to build another jail in another location and `make world DESTDIR=/path/to/new/dir` fails with -------------------------------------------------------------- >>> Building an up-to-date make(1) -------------------------------------------------------------- make: don't know how to make /usr/jail/ssh/usr/lib/libc.a. Stop I've run a make clean and make cleandir and tried to re run without success. i'm currently running a grep to look for the old path in any file on the whole system, /etc/ and /usr similar greps came up empty. How can i make the system forget about the old DESTDIR? Should i just delete all of /usr/src and cvsup? thanks for any assistance jd From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jul 4 17:29:44 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9418216A41C for ; Mon, 4 Jul 2005 17:29:44 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from veldy@veldy.net) Received: from veldy.net (fuggle.veldy.net [209.240.64.129]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6099043D45 for ; Mon, 4 Jul 2005 17:29:44 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from veldy@veldy.net) Received: from localhost (localhost.veldy.net [127.0.0.1]) by veldy.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5C370189 for ; Mon, 4 Jul 2005 12:29:43 -0500 (CDT) Received: from veldy.net ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (fuggle.veldy.net [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 22630-10 for ; Mon, 4 Jul 2005 12:29:35 -0500 (CDT) Received: from [127.0.0.1] (cascade.veldy.net [192.168.1.1]) by veldy.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2C2B71D for ; Mon, 4 Jul 2005 12:29:35 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <42C971FD.6040605@veldy.net> Date: Mon, 04 Jul 2005 12:29:33 -0500 From: "Thomas T. Veldhouse" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.8) Gecko/20050511 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <5A041B1110310BF4CA70B9B0ED1EE991@xxxlucasxxx.canoemail.com> <42C970A3.7050601@veldy.net> In-Reply-To: <42C970A3.7050601@veldy.net> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.92.0.0 OpenPGP: id=761FD300 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at veldy.net Subject: Re: ca.freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 04 Jul 2005 17:29:44 -0000 Thomas T. Veldhouse wrote: >>Lucas wrote: >> >> >>I just clicked the www.ca.freebsd.org link directly from your email and >>it worked fine; it took me to the FreeBSD Canada site. I did NOT click >>the doctordomain link [why bother]. >> >>Tom Veldhouse >> >> > > Nevermind, I misread your email. Sounds like ca.freebsd.org is only used for web services. Tom Veldhouse From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jul 4 17:45:18 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: questions@FreeBSD.ORG Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 48DE716A41C for ; Mon, 4 Jul 2005 17:45:18 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from kris@obsecurity.org) Received: from obsecurity.dyndns.org (CPE0050040655c8-CM00111ae02aac.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com [69.194.102.232]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1A77943D48 for ; Mon, 4 Jul 2005 17:45:18 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from kris@obsecurity.org) Received: by obsecurity.dyndns.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 278A351571; Mon, 4 Jul 2005 13:45:17 -0400 (EDT) Date: Mon, 4 Jul 2005 13:45:17 -0400 From: Kris Kennaway To: Remington L Message-ID: <20050704174516.GA14050@xor.obsecurity.org> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="7AUc2qLy4jB3hD7Z" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Cc: questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: News Article: FreeBSD Security X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 04 Jul 2005 17:45:18 -0000 --7AUc2qLy4jB3hD7Z Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Mon, Jul 04, 2005 at 07:37:02AM -0700, Remington L wrote: > We might want to update the "FreeBSD Press" section. This is a recent=20 > article from SecurityFocus which discusses FreeBSD security vs Linux > http://www.securityfocus.com/news/11230 Talk to docs@FreeBSD.org or submit a PR. Kris --7AUc2qLy4jB3hD7Z Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.1 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFCyXWrWry0BWjoQKURAlvqAKDiZ4bmDuL+a/pwIKj2k4435Of41gCgmTAX YZzRWGKhqShYX/uh45DSab8= =HBx9 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --7AUc2qLy4jB3hD7Z-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jul 4 17:46:39 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C8B2B16A41C for ; Mon, 4 Jul 2005 17:46:39 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from kris@obsecurity.org) Received: from obsecurity.dyndns.org (CPE0050040655c8-CM00111ae02aac.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com [69.194.102.232]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8FE9A43D48 for ; Mon, 4 Jul 2005 17:46:39 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from kris@obsecurity.org) Received: by obsecurity.dyndns.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id EB11D5142B; Mon, 4 Jul 2005 13:46:38 -0400 (EDT) Date: Mon, 4 Jul 2005 13:46:38 -0400 From: Kris Kennaway To: Lucas Message-ID: <20050704174638.GB14050@xor.obsecurity.org> References: <5A041B1110310BF4CA70B9B0ED1EE991@xxxlucasxxx.canoemail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="xgyAXRrhYN0wYx8y" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <5A041B1110310BF4CA70B9B0ED1EE991@xxxlucasxxx.canoemail.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: ca.freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 04 Jul 2005 17:46:39 -0000 --xgyAXRrhYN0wYx8y Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Mon, Jul 04, 2005 at 10:18:45AM -0700, Lucas wrote: > Hi all, >=20 > I thought I would go to a local mirror and see what's new with the > logo contest, so I punched in 'ca.freebsd.org' and I got a real ugly > website. (As a note I should have punched in www.ca.freebsd.org) I > suggest you try it as well. It ended up pointing me to > 'http://www.doctordomain.net/unconfigured.html?' >=20 > I don't think the freebsd team is meaning to pimp out bad urls to a > domain company. I tried some others like 'pootie.freebsd.org', > 'us.freebsd.org', etc. None of these pushed me to the domain register, > they just failed. ca.freebsd.org is the responsibility of whoever runs the ca.freebsd.org machine, it's not maintained by "the freebsd team". Try asking on hubs@ Kris --xgyAXRrhYN0wYx8y Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.1 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFCyXX+Wry0BWjoQKURAloKAJ9tUWR09qoSwENlpQ/BA+an/Uyk5ACgsiJ2 CO/kdLFz0XIxxeY656GZ3Y8= =Gv5o -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --xgyAXRrhYN0wYx8y-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jul 4 17:50:50 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A44F016A41C for ; Mon, 4 Jul 2005 17:50:50 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from lane@joeandlane.com) Received: from smtpauth08.mail.atl.earthlink.net (smtpauth08.mail.atl.earthlink.net [209.86.89.68]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5E7A443D48 for ; Mon, 4 Jul 2005 17:50:50 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from lane@joeandlane.com) Received: from [66.47.111.183] (helo=joeandlane.com) by smtpauth08.mail.atl.earthlink.net with asmtp (TLSv1:DES-CBC3-SHA:168) (Exim 4.34) id 1DpV5l-0005Hl-KN for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 04 Jul 2005 13:50:49 -0400 Received: from joeandlane.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by joeandlane.com (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id j64HwJG9048731 for ; Mon, 4 Jul 2005 12:58:19 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from lane@joeandlane.com) Received: from localhost (localhost [[UNIX: localhost]]) by joeandlane.com (8.13.1/8.13.1/Submit) id j64HwJn7048730 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 4 Jul 2005 12:58:19 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from lane@joeandlane.com) From: Lane To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Mon, 4 Jul 2005 12:58:18 -0500 User-Agent: KMail/1.8 References: In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200507041258.19036.lane@joeandlane.com> X-ELNK-Trace: e56a4b6ca9bdfda11aa676d7e74259b7b3291a7d08dfec797d2305cfc5ff906cf36225df07c8e9dd350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c X-Originating-IP: 66.47.111.183 Subject: Re: Linux move to FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 04 Jul 2005 17:50:50 -0000 On Monday 04 July 2005 11:51, you wrote: > > >-----Original Message----- > > >From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > > >[mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]On Behalf Of Dmitry Mityugov > > >Sent: Sunday, July 03, 2005 2:03 PM > > >To: Lane > > >Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > > >Subject: Re: Linux move to FreeBSD > > > > > > > > >On 7/3/05, Lane wrote: > > >... > > > > > >> It truly boggles the mind at how frequently people protest > > > > > >the on-going > > > > > >> decision to use beastie on the public face of FreeBSD. It's > > > > > >almost like a > > > > > >> guest who comes into your home and then starts redecorating! > > > > > >... > > > > > >I believe there was nothing in the original question that would > > >resemble "redecorating". It was a polite question about why FreeBSD > > >had this "feature". > > > > No, it wasn't. Not if you read the entire message context. It was > > a question along the lines of "how dare you do this" or "what idiot > > used this" He may not have used those exact words but the meaning > > was clear. > > Disclaimer: I love the Beastie image and do not want to see him (it) > changed. > > Sorry if this repeats something someone else has said (I admit I did > not read every message in this thread), but it strikes me that folks > are trying to have it both ways with Beastie: Yes, he's a daemon, not > a demon, but he also has devil horns and a tail. Tennis shoes > notwithstanding, he *does* look devilish. And that fork in his hand > (yes, we all know what the fork is), sure looks devilish, too. The > point is that it's not surprising that those who are offended, or > choose to be offended for whatever reason, are not persuaded by the > daemon versus demon language. > > Don Tyson Don, I agree. It is not surprising that people choose to be offended by the image. People choose to be offended by whatever they choose. We make software choices based upon popularity, esthetics, availability, and even religious conviction - that is a personal choice, and I'm pleased to support such personal choice. But those who evangalize for or against a software (or other individual choice) based upon personal religious conviction are worthy of contempt - not education, not understanding, not even forgiveness, just contempt. I disagree with the earlier claim that this was ever a "polite question." This has always been an insidious attempt by outsiders and newcomers to influence the direction and even the history of some of the most important players in the open-source community, since the question easily applies to all *nix systems. I grudginly accept that those who ask the question may not even realize what they are doing, but I'd wager that most evangelicals don't realize the impact of what they do, either - that still doesn't make it polite, innocent, or in any way acceptable. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jul 4 18:03:14 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EAEDD16A41C for ; Mon, 4 Jul 2005 18:03:14 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from chuckr@chuckr.org) Received: from chuckr.org (april.chuckr.org [66.92.151.30]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B012043D46 for ; Mon, 4 Jul 2005 18:03:14 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from chuckr@chuckr.org) Received: from [66.92.151.195] (july.chuckr.org [66.92.151.195]) by chuckr.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 28594114A4; Mon, 4 Jul 2005 13:56:51 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <42C979DF.7040302@chuckr.org> Date: Mon, 04 Jul 2005 14:03:11 -0400 From: Chuck Robey User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.2 (X11/20050701) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: tvz1@telkomsa.net References: <30050.165.165.200.79.1120405400.squirrel@webmail.telkomsa.net> In-Reply-To: <30050.165.165.200.79.1120405400.squirrel@webmail.telkomsa.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Subject: Re: Linux move to FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 04 Jul 2005 18:03:15 -0000 TvZ wrote: >>>Hi >>> >>>I am a user of SUSE Linux, and I was thinking of >>>trying out BSD. After reading as much information >>>as I could about the three variants of BSD vs. >>>Linux. On technical merit, I was very impressed. >>> >>>FreeBSD looks like a good stating place for me, >>>but one think about FreeBSD makes me uncomfortable >>>is the symbol/emblem that the OS uses. That is a "devil" ! >>> >>>I would like to know if possible how this came about, >>>and what thinking was behind it. From experience, I consider >>>symbols to be very significant, Historically, psychologically >>>and even spiritually. >>> >>>Best regards >>> >>>Mark >>> >>>PS. Please can u e-mail me on this e-mail sparxz@excite.com >>>when an answer becomes available. > > > As I stated earlier...I'm rather new to BSD...but one of the reasons I > changed fromn Linux -> bsd was merly the fact that I thought the penguin was > more evil than Beasty. Then again...that is just me. ;) I cannot really believe that the above response, with it's obvious self-inconsistencies, was done seriously. On the off chance that perhaps it was, ask yourself, would you really WANT a person who believes that a Penguin logo in and of itself constitutes a good reason to switch, along with us in FreeBSD? I would be embarrassed to admit that such a person is an associate of mine, wouldn't you?. > Tertius van Zyl > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jul 4 18:10:49 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CE3A516A41C for ; Mon, 4 Jul 2005 18:10:49 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from nikolas.britton@gmail.com) Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.207]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 90FC843D49 for ; Mon, 4 Jul 2005 18:10:49 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from nikolas.britton@gmail.com) Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id i4so770834wra for ; Mon, 04 Jul 2005 11:10:46 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=Wtjvz3hBWH7scclbvJl/o7BJcK3cI2tRNfAzedA+aQqONEE+KHLkrBBx42aXEpAwWFqXZdnEROtcTIp0HVwhwcf4RN4Q76vo5Fl92N4IZQIMRsftO7D4fGkq5N3URsRaC6Sv/GK8IlT+CnNjK5kick6j3qPnfUG7qbVEbcl5u3g= Received: by 10.54.57.78 with SMTP id f78mr3744897wra; Mon, 04 Jul 2005 11:10:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.124.2 with HTTP; Mon, 4 Jul 2005 11:10:45 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Mon, 4 Jul 2005 13:10:45 -0500 From: Nikolas Britton To: Steve Brown In-Reply-To: <20050703181714.GA3060@glycine.annular.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline References: <20050703181714.GA3060@glycine.annular.org> Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Serial console capable BIOSes? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Nikolas Britton List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 04 Jul 2005 18:10:49 -0000 On 7/3/05, Steve Brown wrote: > Does anyone have recommendations for motherboards (P3 or P4) with good > BIOS serial console support that plays nicely with FreeBSD running a > serial console on the same port? Basically, I'd like to monitor the > pre-BSD boot process and the BSD boot process from a terminal window on > another machine. >=20 http://www.intel.com/design/servers/boards/SE7210TP1-E/index.htm From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jul 4 18:43:48 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DDF9816A41C for ; Mon, 4 Jul 2005 18:43:48 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from dexter@ambidexter.com) Received: from tortoise.way.lv (7.lmuza.lv [195.13.151.139]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9781443D46 for ; Mon, 4 Jul 2005 18:43:48 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from dexter@ambidexter.com) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by tortoise.way.lv (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7DEF71FED5A; Mon, 4 Jul 2005 21:43:33 +0300 (EEST) Received: from tortoise.way.lv ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (tortoise [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 23740-06; Mon, 4 Jul 2005 21:43:28 +0300 (EEST) Received: from [192.168.1.100] (unknown [213.175.79.146]) by tortoise.way.lv (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1A2061FED52; Mon, 4 Jul 2005 21:43:28 +0300 (EEST) Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <42C96953.9020406@mac.com> References: <42C96953.9020406@mac.com> Date: Mon, 4 Jul 2005 21:43:38 +0300 To: Chuck Swiger From: Michael Dexter Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new-20030616-p10 (Debian) at way.lv Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: List all make targets? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 04 Jul 2005 18:43:49 -0000 >Michael Dexter wrote: >>Is there a 'make' flag to list all make targets for any given >>directory containing Makefile* ? > >grep ':' Makefile ...comes pretty close. Another reader suggested I cat the file... I take it the answer is "no." Specifically I am looking for a quick way to see the make targets as 'make' would accept them while hunting for 'uninstall' and other surprises. I see that it gets complicated as i.e. "_legacy" is a legitimate target along with "buildworld." More to investigate! >>It's a brilliant mechanism but I get lost chasing variables that >>may span /usr/src/Makefile.inc1 and /usr/share/mk/ and... > >What problem are you trying to solve? My understanding of the system for the purposes of world reduction and custom release engineering. My work is 1/2 way to being an informal howto on the subject. Thanks to all who responded. Michael. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jul 4 19:03:10 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A08DC16A41C for ; Mon, 4 Jul 2005 19:03:10 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from gbentley@uk2.net) Received: from webmailsmtp1.uk2net.com (mailout.uk2.net [83.170.69.139]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6DC4343D4C for ; Mon, 4 Jul 2005 19:03:10 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from gbentley@uk2.net) Received: from [10.0.1.59] (helo=mailnew-9.uk2.net) by webmailsmtp1.uk2net.com with smtp (Exim 4.43) id 1DpWDr-000239-5G for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 04 Jul 2005 20:03:15 +0100 Received: from 81.174.174.115 (SquirrelMail authenticated user gbentley) by maxproxy9.uk2net.com with HTTP; Mon, 4 Jul 2005 20:03:13 +0100 (BST) Message-ID: <50893.81.174.174.115.1120503793.squirrel@maxproxy9.uk2net.com> Date: Mon, 4 Jul 2005 20:03:13 +0100 (BST) From: "Graham Bentley" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 Importance: Normal Subject: Re: Linux move to FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 04 Jul 2005 19:03:10 -0000 The devil made me do it ! besastie.4th \ 46 4 print-beastie The power of .......... choice ! From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jul 4 19:19:14 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DAC1916A41C for ; Mon, 4 Jul 2005 19:19:14 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from dmitry.mityugov@gmail.com) Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.195]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9E23443D49 for ; Mon, 4 Jul 2005 19:19:14 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from dmitry.mityugov@gmail.com) Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id i4so780032wra for ; Mon, 04 Jul 2005 12:19:14 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=TrR/19wEX9Lzy1d7AsPJYH9VIC20RTGP9+a+FbTJ0uEqqeKn0WN2yU727/V+vo4iCDxoRyhYNg2FO45OqHtHvVdQCWkm/M24r8CDD7G8JLANQWIo4EUP6d6uhFumzT41BFlKwG5GEfuizx+issRgRCil5Y4lgKrYlIwF+j7i284= Received: by 10.54.45.21 with SMTP id s21mr3758073wrs; Mon, 04 Jul 2005 12:19:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.56.33 with HTTP; Mon, 4 Jul 2005 12:19:13 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Mon, 4 Jul 2005 23:19:13 +0400 From: Dmitry Mityugov To: Graham Bentley In-Reply-To: <50893.81.174.174.115.1120503793.squirrel@maxproxy9.uk2net.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline References: <50893.81.174.174.115.1120503793.squirrel@maxproxy9.uk2net.com> Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Linux move to FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Dmitry Mityugov List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 04 Jul 2005 19:19:15 -0000 On 7/4/05, Graham Bentley wrote: >=20 > The devil made me do it ! >=20 > besastie.4th >=20 > \ 46 4 print-beastie >=20 > The power of .......... choice ! Okay, okay. What about the Gnome startup screen? --=20 Dmitry "We live less by imagination than despite it" - Rockwell Kent, "N by E" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jul 4 19:32:58 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B4F3C16A41C for ; Mon, 4 Jul 2005 19:32:58 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jonc@chen.org.nz) Received: from chen.org.nz (chen.org.nz [210.54.19.51]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6E2A243D46 for ; Mon, 4 Jul 2005 19:32:58 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jonc@chen.org.nz) Received: by chen.org.nz (Postfix, from userid 1000) id B8C0C56435; Tue, 5 Jul 2005 07:32:56 +1200 (NZST) Date: Tue, 5 Jul 2005 07:32:56 +1200 From: Jonathan Chen To: Gerard Seibert Message-ID: <20050704193256.GI21173@osiris.chen.org.nz> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Cc: freebsd-questions Subject: Re: SendMail Error Message X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 04 Jul 2005 19:32:58 -0000 On Mon, Jul 04, 2005 at 09:03:08AM -0400, Gerard Seibert wrote: > For no apparent reason, the following error message is suddenly appearing > on my computer monitor. > > # Jul 4 07:48:31 beerstud sm-mta[5876]: j64BIV2C005802: SYSERR(root): > hash map "Alias0": unsafe map file /etc/mail/aliases.db: World writable > directory > > I checked, and the directory is set at 0755. I never altered it or > anything, so why is it suddenly giving me this message? In addition, what > do I have to do to correct the situation? You have to check /etc/mail AND /etc AND /. All the way to the top. Cheers. -- Jonathan Chen | To do is to be -- Nietzsche | To be is to do -- Sartre | Scooby do be do -- Scooby From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jul 4 20:10:34 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8AF3A16A41C for ; Mon, 4 Jul 2005 20:10:34 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from TelkomSA87213@telkomsa.net) Received: from mail.telkomsa.net (oberon.telkomsa.net [196.25.211.1]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7CA8543D46 for ; Mon, 4 Jul 2005 20:10:32 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from TelkomSA87213@telkomsa.net) Received: (qmail 14055 invoked from network); 4 Jul 2005 20:10:30 -0000 Received: from 196.25.69.74 by oberon.telkomsa.net (envelope-from , uid 81) with qmail-scanner-1.24 (clamdscan: 0.80/557. Clear:RC:1(196.25.69.74):. Processed in 0.0464 secs); 04 Jul 2005 20:10:30 -0000 X-Qmail-Scanner-Mail-From: TelkomSA87213@telkomsa.net via oberon.telkomsa.net X-Qmail-Scanner: 1.24 (Clear:RC:1(196.25.69.74):. Processed in 0.0464 secs) Received: from unknown (HELO webmail.telkomsa.net) ([196.25.69.74]) (envelope-sender ) by O (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for ; 4 Jul 2005 20:10:30 -0000 Received: from tbnb-165-200-79.telkomadsl.co.za ([165.165.200.79]) (SquirrelMail authenticated user TelkomSA87213) by webmail.telkomsa.net with HTTP; Mon, 4 Jul 2005 22:10:30 +0200 (SAST) Message-ID: <30059.165.165.200.79.1120507830.squirrel@webmail.telkomsa.net> Date: Mon, 4 Jul 2005 22:10:30 +0200 (SAST) From: "TvZ" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.4 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 Importance: Normal Subject: Re: Linux move to FreeBSD (Beastie vs Penguin) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: tvz1@telkomsa.net List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 04 Jul 2005 20:10:34 -0000 Old Chucky replied to the following I posted: >> As I stated earlier...I'm rather new to BSD...but one of the reasons I >> changed fromn Linux -> bsd was merly the fact that I thought the penguin was >> more evil than Beasty. Then again...that is just me. ;) This was his reply... >I cannot really believe that the above response, with it's obvious >self-inconsistencies, was done seriously. On the off chance that >perhaps it was, ask yourself, would you really WANT a person who >believes that a Penguin logo in and of itself constitutes a good reason >to switch, along with us in FreeBSD? I would be embarrassed to admit >that such a person is an associate of mine, wouldn't you?. Let me think about it...mmm...done. Any "Free" OS is there for anyone to use. Agreed. Thus you don;t have to be associated with anyone else. Neither do I have to be associated with you...etc...pun intended. For me to post a serious replie about the fact that the penguin is more evil than beastie...I'm sure I got the right (as it is my oppinion). Eventhough I replied in the same manner as I read the question to be. Silly! For any one to waste their time on replying to this fight over a demon, daemon or demonic penguin would be ... Silly...so that is why I posted. I would rather see this thread die out and see one as yourself (Chucky old pal) to reply to a previous question I posted about Multiple Simultaneous Users on One PC. Think before you replie again. plz. Thanks in advance. Tertius van Zyl From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jul 4 20:13:35 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 70F6D16A41C for ; Mon, 4 Jul 2005 20:13:35 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from cswiger@mac.com) Received: from pi.codefab.com (pi.codefab.com [199.103.21.227]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3F32043D53 for ; Mon, 4 Jul 2005 20:13:35 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from cswiger@mac.com) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pi.codefab.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 66E895FAD; Mon, 4 Jul 2005 16:13:34 -0400 (EDT) Received: from pi.codefab.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (pi.codefab.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 95897-05; Mon, 4 Jul 2005 16:13:24 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [192.168.1.3] (pool-68-161-54-113.ny325.east.verizon.net [68.161.54.113]) by pi.codefab.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 71B715D27; Mon, 4 Jul 2005 16:13:24 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <42C9986B.6040901@mac.com> Date: Mon, 04 Jul 2005 16:13:31 -0400 From: Chuck Swiger Organization: The Courts of Chaos User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.8) Gecko/20050511 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Michael Dexter References: <42C96953.9020406@mac.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at codefab.com Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: List all make targets? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 04 Jul 2005 20:13:35 -0000 Michael Dexter wrote: >> Michael Dexter wrote: >>> Is there a 'make' flag to list all make targets for any given >>> directory containing Makefile* ? >> >> grep ':' Makefile ...comes pretty close. > > Another reader suggested I cat the file... I take it the answer is "no." The answer is "it's probably not useful". Make uses implied rules for suffix transformations, so for example there is an implied target for foo.o which depends on foo.c, which looks something like: .c.o : ${CC} ${CFLAGS} -c ${.IMPSRC} These rules represent a few hundred lines worth of build rules which could be applied to any file as needed in order to build things without having these rules actually specified in the Makefile itself. > Specifically I am looking for a quick way to see the make targets as > 'make' would accept them while hunting for 'uninstall' and other > surprises. I see that it gets complicated as i.e. "_legacy" is a > legitimate target along with "buildworld." More to investigate! "make -n -d g1 | less"...? Take a look at the main target and at the "parents" target at the top. -- -Chuck From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jul 4 20:29:07 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7739D16A41C for ; Mon, 4 Jul 2005 20:29:07 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from eric@unixtechs.org) Received: from rwcrmhc11.comcast.net (rwcrmhc11.comcast.net [204.127.198.35]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3DA4543D48 for ; Mon, 4 Jul 2005 20:29:04 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from eric@unixtechs.org) Received: from blackguy.unixtechs.org (bgp946610bgs.canton01.mi.comcast.net[68.41.51.164]) by comcast.net (rwcrmhc11) with ESMTP id <2005070420290001300rqi27e>; Mon, 4 Jul 2005 20:29:04 +0000 Received: from eric by blackguy.unixtechs.org with local (Exim 4.51 (FreeBSD)) id 1DpXYq-000OlN-1Q for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 04 Jul 2005 16:29:00 -0400 Date: Mon, 4 Jul 2005 16:29:00 -0400 From: Eric Ekong To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20050704202859.GA89416@blackguy> References: <200506081312.29936.shinjii@virusinfo.rdksupportinc.com> <1118325464.533.11.camel@p4-3200.local> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <1118325464.533.11.camel@p4-3200.local> Organization: UNIXTECHS X-Mailer: Mutt http://www.mutt.org/ X-Editor: Vim http://www.vim.org/ X-Info: http://www.unixtechs.org/ X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 5.4-STABLE i386 3:10PM up 6:11, 7 users, load averages: 0.07, 0.04, 0.01 User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.9i Subject: Re: Azureus Update Problem X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Eric Ekong List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 04 Jul 2005 20:29:07 -0000 Has anyone successfully accomplished this with the latest release of Azureus and is it possible to switch the jdk15 for this release? Eric * Andreas Rudisch <"cyb."@gmx.net> [050609 09:57]: > On Wed, 2005-06-08 at 13:12 +1000, Warren wrote: > > I have been trying to update Azureus but each time i d/l the file to update > > with and click restart form the updater section/window it never restarts and > > then when i re-load the program it sais to check update.log which ironically > > dosent exist so i have no way to see whats going on. > > > > im running FreeBSD 5.4-STABLE and Azureus 2.2.0.2 > > All you have to do is download the latest jar-version from here: > http://prdownloads.sourceforge.net/azureus/Azureus2.3.0.2.jar?download > > Then replace /usr/local/share/java/classes/azureus.jar with the new > file. > > Since version 2.2.0.3_B60 Azureus does NOT work with Java 1.5 correctly > anymore, so you will have to edit the azureus start > script /usr/local/bin/azureus: > find and change the following variable: JAVA_VERSION="1.4+" > > That's it. Start 'azureus' and enjoy version 2.3.0.2 > > Andreas > (running FreeBSD 5.4-stable with Azureus 2.3.0.3_B6) > -- > GnuPG key : 0xD25FCC81 | http://cyb.websimplex.de/pubkey.asc > Fingerprint: D182 6F22 7EEC DD4C 0F6E 564C 691B 0372 D25F CC81 > > > -- ======================================================= Eric I. Ekong eric@unixtechs.org FreeBSD - The Power to Serve http://www.freebsd.org K Desktop Environment on FreeBSD http://freebsd.kde.org ======================================================= Laws of Serendipity: (1) In order to discover anything, you must be looking for something. (2) If you wish to make an improved product, you must already be engaged in making an inferior one. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jul 4 20:32:04 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F36B916A41C for ; Mon, 4 Jul 2005 20:32:03 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from didier.wiroth@mcesr.etat.lu) Received: from postino-2.etat.lu (postino-2.etat.lu [194.154.205.21]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AA51E43D48 for ; Mon, 4 Jul 2005 20:32:03 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from didier.wiroth@mcesr.etat.lu) Received: from avirus-2.cie.etat.lu (dispatch-2.cie.etat.lu [148.110.137.7]) by postino-2.etat.lu (Postfix) with ESMTP id A2E341218B36 for ; Mon, 4 Jul 2005 22:31:42 +0200 (CEST) Received: from avirus-2.cie.etat.lu (dispatch-2.cie.etat.lu [148.110.137.7]) by localhost (CIE ESMTP Dispatch 2) with ESMTP id 9B7C3360BE for ; Mon, 4 Jul 2005 22:31:42 +0200 (CEST) Received: from hermes-1.cie.etat.lu (hermes-1.cie.etat.lu [148.110.136.56]) by dispatch-2.cie.etat.lu (CIE ESMTP Dispatch 2) with ESMTP id 8898C360A9 for ; Mon, 4 Jul 2005 22:31:42 +0200 (CEST) Received: from hermes-1.cie.etat.lu (hermes-1.cie.etat.lu [148.110.136.56]) by store.etat.lu (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.1 HotFix 0.05 (built Oct 21 2004)) with ESMTP id <0IJ4009W6ECSVU30@store.etat.lu> for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 04 Jul 2005 22:31:42 +0200 (MEST) Received: from etat.lu ([148.110.136.56]) by store.etat.lu (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.1 HotFix 0.05 (built Oct 21 2004)) with ESMTP id <0IJ400IL6ECT5W70@store.etat.lu> for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 04 Jul 2005 22:31:41 +0200 (MEST) Received: from [192.168.2.43] (Forwarded-For: [158.64.125.149]) by store.etat.lu (mshttpd); Mon, 04 Jul 2005 22:31:41 +0200 Date: Mon, 04 Jul 2005 22:31:41 +0200 From: Didier Wiroth To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Sun Java(tm) System Messenger Express 6.1 HotFix 0.05 (built Oct 21 2004) Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-language: fr Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-disposition: inline X-Accept-Language: fr Priority: normal Subject: installing crypto distribution without cd X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 04 Jul 2005 20:32:04 -0000 Hi, I reinstalled my laptop (via ftp). During the install it was not able to locate the "crypto distribution" and thus didn't install it. How can I install the "crypto distribution" now without having the 5.4-release cd? Many thanks Didier From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jul 4 20:49:10 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 176CB16A41C for ; Mon, 4 Jul 2005 20:49:10 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from juhasaarinen@gmail.com) Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.207]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BF82D43D4C for ; Mon, 4 Jul 2005 20:49:09 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from juhasaarinen@gmail.com) Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id i4so792886wra for ; Mon, 04 Jul 2005 13:49:09 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=Gvq0wGtBpCpJ3GnOufjPSSAgDIqQphETfFdc/OTb01YUR/GsceHBKrX0GSu8Plnc874dlLaLhTvTSuU1VHdJn8uzp0nmyJ6dRugr1gT8isaJOlB9pwUWq96190vvVUVkXjLVezw+TvFyzpPAj5iDCT2i1C6twQEjrixqe+Tn9gs= Received: by 10.54.47.41 with SMTP id u41mr3784900wru; Mon, 04 Jul 2005 13:49:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.4.67 with HTTP; Mon, 4 Jul 2005 13:49:08 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Tue, 5 Jul 2005 08:49:08 +1200 From: Juha Saarinen To: Ted Mittelstaedt In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline References: Cc: FreeBSD questions Subject: Re: How to troubleshoot slow network performance with Realtek 8169s? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Juha Saarinen List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 04 Jul 2005 20:49:10 -0000 On 7/4/05, Ted Mittelstaedt wrote: > This isn't weird at all. It is a driver issue. Remember I said the > driver hasn't been optimized. The driver could be letting the card > seize the PCI bus for an inordinate amount of time or some such. This > could also be an interaction with the card, the driver, and some bios > setting of your motherboard. This could be, for example, not allowing > enough cpu time for a higher-overhead program like FTP to run at full > speed, while allowing a lower overhead program like iperf, enough time > to run at full blast. I have seen issues like this before and they > have almost always been solved by swapping hardware. >=20 > I have in fact swapped hardware that acted up in one machine to > a different machine that had a different motherboard, same FreeBSD > versions on both systems, and that hardware became rock-solid in > the new motherboard. >=20 > Frankly it all depends on what you want to do. If this is a production > system you are going to need it online and you can't waste the time > to screw around with it - in that case you know the Intel chipset works > well in that motherboard, so replace the Realtek. If however this is > a fun-n-games system then keep the Realtek in there and file a send-pr > and work it that way. Righto, that, too, makes sense. Will engage in some further investigation (read: hardware swapping and head scratching) to narrow things down. --=20 Juha From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jul 4 21:05:44 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3D0CC16A41C for ; Mon, 4 Jul 2005 21:05:44 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from "cyb."@gmx.net) Received: from mail.gmx.net (pop.gmx.de [213.165.64.20]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 864E743D46 for ; Mon, 4 Jul 2005 21:05:42 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from "cyb."@gmx.net) Received: (qmail invoked by alias); 04 Jul 2005 21:05:41 -0000 Received: from pD952CA72.dip0.t-ipconnect.de (EHLO p4-3200.local) [217.82.202.114] by mail.gmx.net (mp013) with SMTP; 04 Jul 2005 23:05:41 +0200 X-Authenticated: #4870692 From: Andreas Rudisch To: Eric Ekong In-Reply-To: <20050704202859.GA89416@blackguy> References: <200506081312.29936.shinjii@virusinfo.rdksupportinc.com> <1118325464.533.11.camel@p4-3200.local> <20050704202859.GA89416@blackguy> Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="=-BpC7BYB5uz8iPCt3xf/r" Date: Mon, 04 Jul 2005 23:05:35 +0200 Message-Id: <1120511135.526.9.camel@p4-3200.local> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.2.3 FreeBSD GNOME Team Port X-Y-GMX-Trusted: 0 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Azureus Update Problem X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 04 Jul 2005 21:05:44 -0000 --=-BpC7BYB5uz8iPCt3xf/r Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Mon, 2005-07-04 at 16:29 -0400, Eric Ekong wrote: > Has anyone successfully accomplished this with the latest release of=20 > Azureus and is it possible to switch the jdk15 for this release?=20 Azureus 2.3.0.4 and 2.3.0.5_B4 work fine here with Java 1.4. But Azureus still does not work with Java 1.5. Even Windows user had to update their Java to get Az 2.3.0.0 to run properly, but I think this patch has not found its way to the FreeBSD port yet. (Keep in mind, jdk15 is still considered 'alpha' quality) Andreas --=20 GnuPG key : 0xD25FCC81 | http://cyb.websimplex.de/pubkey.asc Fingerprint: D182 6F22 7EEC DD4C 0F6E 564C 691B 0372 D25F CC81 --=-BpC7BYB5uz8iPCt3xf/r Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Description: This is a digitally signed message part -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.1 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQBCyaSfaRsDctJfzIERAo1bAJ9dy9wco+hI7f7m+U/qMql2YP2pwACeLaY0 0WSygaxi8TcXINf83hjYc/4= =KB/d -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --=-BpC7BYB5uz8iPCt3xf/r-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jul 4 22:10:08 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0F87416A41C for ; Mon, 4 Jul 2005 22:10:08 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from scuba@centroin.com.br) Received: from gorgo.centroin.com.br (gorgo.centroin.com.br [200.225.63.128]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 87CBB43D46 for ; Mon, 4 Jul 2005 22:10:07 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from scuba@centroin.com.br) Received: from hypselo.centroin.com.br (hypselo.centroin.com.br [200.225.63.1]) by gorgo.centroin.com.br (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id j64MA1Dt025652 for ; Mon, 4 Jul 2005 19:10:02 -0300 (EST) Date: Mon, 4 Jul 2005 19:10:01 -0300 (EST) From: Sender: To: FreeBSD questions Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: QUOTED-PRINTABLE Subject: Where is the memory X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 04 Jul 2005 22:10:08 -0000 Hi, =09How can I track where/who is using the system memory? =09I have a 2GB (RAM) system running Freebsd 5.4, basically as a mail gateway. =09After a few hours up, TOP shows me about 300MB of free memory. No swap yet. =09But the sum of RSS column of "ps axum", gives me about 600MB used. =09I know that kernel allocated memory doesn=B4t show in ps, but I think it=B4s not using 1.4GB. =09The head of top is like this: last pid: 7323; load averages: 1.49, 1.11, 1.30 up 4+05:57:30 19:01:= 05 184 processes: 1 running, 183 sleeping CPU states: 16.7% user, 0.0% nice, 3.5% system, 0.6% interrupt, 79.3% id= le Mem: 333M Active, 1218M Inact, 157M Wired, 42M Cache, 112M Buf, 256M Free Swap: 8192M Total, 8192M Free =09Also, why there is a difference between free memory reported by top and vmstat? =09Could it have some memory leak? Is there any report of it in freebsd 5.x? Thank you, - Marcelo From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jul 4 22:52:56 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9BF8116A41C for ; Mon, 4 Jul 2005 22:52:56 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jhary@unsane.co.uk) Received: from unsane.co.uk (unsane.co.uk [62.140.220.90]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1230343D45 for ; Mon, 4 Jul 2005 22:52:55 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jhary@unsane.co.uk) Received: from canth ([10.0.0.10]) (authenticated bits=0) by unsane.co.uk (8.13.4/8.13.3) with ESMTP id j64MqleE088318; Mon, 4 Jul 2005 23:52:48 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from jhary@unsane.co.uk) Message-Id: <200507042252.j64MqleE088318@unsane.co.uk> From: "Vince" To: "'bsd'" , "'Liste FreeBSD'" Date: Mon, 4 Jul 2005 23:52:54 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook, Build 11.0.6353 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 In-Reply-To: Thread-Index: AcWAgRMh/efMpsgGTYucCgNf/w6yFAAacLOg Cc: Subject: RE: Using unix mail with maildir format X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 04 Jul 2005 22:52:56 -0000 > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org=20 > [mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org] On Behalf Of bsd > Sent: 04 July 2005 11:13 > To: Liste FreeBSD > Subject: Using unix mail with maildir format >=20 > Hello, >=20 >=20 > Does anyone know if there is a way to read mail with unix "mail" =20 > program? >=20 > I've been using this program since couple of years and I am=20 > quite happy with It=85 I can't seem to find a shortcut to have=20 > It read maildir format=85 >=20 Unix "mail" wont as maildir is not the original unix format. 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Easier than that: # echo 'beastie_disable="YES"' >> /boot/loader.conf From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jul 4 23:17:18 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: FreeBSD-Questions@FreeBSD.ORG Delivered-To: FreeBSD-Questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3156E16A41C for ; Mon, 4 Jul 2005 23:17:18 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from slas7713@yahoo.com) Received: from web33612.mail.mud.yahoo.com (web33612.mail.mud.yahoo.com [68.142.199.244]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id D858A43D45 for ; Mon, 4 Jul 2005 23:17:17 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from slas7713@yahoo.com) Received: (qmail 88137 invoked by uid 60001); 4 Jul 2005 23:17:17 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=hvzFGcZp6/MrMK/3KW2RbuAdpVEqCZMYebqIlz7ptehEqI1X2FJwjlDKEMJyvOsBx+1r9cO3mzRbspkQwYVoiOCKfxl3Ge08/UhNem7vpmOHrYGCI/rbFo/2v2AwBzgKWt0bpUB62hzSFCzjUgtpqYzb/n2B889JXGN/fOD1yz4= ; Message-ID: <20050704231717.88135.qmail@web33612.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Received: from [24.216.129.249] by web33612.mail.mud.yahoo.com via HTTP; Mon, 04 Jul 2005 16:17:17 PDT Date: Mon, 4 Jul 2005 16:17:17 -0700 (PDT) From: steve lasiter To: FreeBSD-Questions@FreeBSD.ORG MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Cc: Subject: accidental overwrite X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 04 Jul 2005 23:17:18 -0000 First let me say that I've been sucessful in finding all my answer either online, at the BSD website, or in my "Absolute BSD" book until now. I recently installed FreeBSD version 5.4 along with Apache 1.3, PHP5, and MySQL 5.02. I had everything working together great until today when I tried to copy over a .sql file so MySQL could see it and run it. I accidentally copied it over to /usr/local/bin/mysql thinking mysql was a directory. You can see the problem. Now I cannot start mysql at the command prompt from the /usr/local/bin since I overwrote the the required mysql file. My question(s) are: Is there any way to revert back to the original file if this type of mistake is made? If not is there anyway to get just that one file without having to do a complete removal and installation? And finally, is the only way to NOT do this again is to use the appropriate flags with cp? Thanks for you help, Dean Lasiter ____________________________________________________ Yahoo! Sports Rekindle the Rivalries. Sign up for Fantasy Football http://football.fantasysports.yahoo.com From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jul 4 23:49:31 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: FreeBSD-Questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: FreeBSD-Questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 22C7D16A41C for ; Mon, 4 Jul 2005 23:49:31 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from mtbeedee@gmail.com) Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.195]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CCC0243D48 for ; Mon, 4 Jul 2005 23:49:30 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from mtbeedee@gmail.com) Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id i4so813760wra for ; Mon, 04 Jul 2005 16:49:30 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=aVLy9ZvvhKAEhHSTHgUcY6ERmLjLI4VzR981AgNNjf7bCP5ZQ+Md9WIboyI4szmcn4wuxV+UL5VJH5N8R7TzMjHP12KJH/60ZdYVEftaNlIi1V6pp1riRs69HH2zEYx4EdeZ+XHNhKMR9uTkxh7JjuLvJRYWQBnT5BCVpsRgMkQ= Received: by 10.54.3.16 with SMTP id 16mr3889402wrc; Mon, 04 Jul 2005 16:21:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.159.9 with HTTP; Mon, 4 Jul 2005 16:21:34 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Mon, 4 Jul 2005 19:21:34 -0400 From: Michael Beattie To: steve lasiter In-Reply-To: <20050704231717.88135.qmail@web33612.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline References: <20050704231717.88135.qmail@web33612.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Cc: FreeBSD-Questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: accidental overwrite X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Michael Beattie List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 04 Jul 2005 23:49:31 -0000 On 7/4/05, steve lasiter wrote: > First let me say that I've been sucessful in finding > all my answer either online, at the BSD website, or in > my "Absolute BSD" book until now. I recently installed > FreeBSD version 5.4 along with Apache 1.3, PHP5, and > MySQL 5.02. I had everything working together great > until today when I tried to copy over a .sql file so > MySQL could see it and run it. I accidentally copied > it over to /usr/local/bin/mysql thinking mysql was a > directory. You can see the problem. Now I cannot start > mysql at the command prompt from the /usr/local/bin > since I overwrote the the required mysql file. >=20 > My question(s) are: Is there any way to revert back to > the original file if this type of mistake is made? If > not is there anyway to get just that one file without > having to do a complete removal and installation? And > finally, is the only way to NOT do this again is to > use the appropriate flags with cp? >=20 > Thanks for you help, Well, first of all, you dont need to put queries in any special location to use them... you can always run mysql with < query.sql to do that. As far as getting the executable back, you can try pkg_add'ing it back and see if that helps or wait for someone with more familiarity with the ports system to chime in. good luck From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jul 5 01:16:07 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: FreeBSD-Questions@FreeBSD.ORG Delivered-To: FreeBSD-Questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 88FBF16A41C for ; Tue, 5 Jul 2005 01:16:07 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from freebsd@meijome.net) Received: from sigma.octantis.com.au (sigma.octantis.com.au [207.44.188.23]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2848B43D45 for ; Tue, 5 Jul 2005 01:16:06 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from freebsd@meijome.net) Received: (qmail 21448 invoked from network); 5 Jul 2005 11:16:06 +1000 Received: from andromeda.lef.com.au (HELO ?10.168.101.24?) (210.8.93.2) by sigma.octantis.com.au with (DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA encrypted) SMTP; 5 Jul 2005 11:16:06 +1000 Message-ID: <42C9DF49.3010904@meijome.net> Date: Tue, 05 Jul 2005 11:15:53 +1000 From: Norberto Meijome User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.2 (Windows/20050317) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: FreeBSD-Questions@FreeBSD.ORG References: <20050704231717.88135.qmail@web33612.mail.mud.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <20050704231717.88135.qmail@web33612.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: slas7713@yahoo.com Subject: Re: accidental overwrite X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 05 Jul 2005 01:16:07 -0000 steve lasiter wrote: > My question(s) are: Is there any way to revert back to > the original file if this type of mistake is made? If > not is there anyway to get just that one file without > having to do a complete removal and installation? And > finally, is the only way to NOT do this again is to > use the appropriate flags with cp? Hi Steve, first of all, as a rule of thumb, u wouldn't want to write your own files into /usr/local/bin/ unless they are your own scripts. data (other from executables) from ports / base system are hardly ever (never?) found in a 'bin' directory (/usr/local/bin/ , /usr/bin/, /sbin/, etc) If I were in this pickle, i'd just do reinstall the port and move on :) If for whatever reason ur current mysql-client port folder is a version you dont' want to upgrade to,you can cvsup the port to the version you are after (not sure about the details of this...). Once you have cvsuped to that version, do a make ; make deinstall; make reinstall and u should be fine. You could also just do a make on the ports and copy the file by hand (to be absolutely certain only /usr/local/bin/mysql is updated). Beto From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jul 5 01:29:56 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 732C816A41C for ; Tue, 5 Jul 2005 01:29:56 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from snailboy1@yahoo.com) Received: from web53902.mail.yahoo.com (web53902.mail.yahoo.com [206.190.36.212]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 08A5343D49 for ; Tue, 5 Jul 2005 01:29:55 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from snailboy1@yahoo.com) Received: (qmail 29411 invoked by uid 60001); 5 Jul 2005 01:29:55 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=HpHhW0TFsyi+8DTuEivqVJmmbjVz2IlhISTsDA//yVRXurvn5pTh0qPsk73fw1VEWV0pTYIifM/VPsIsg2COe0xhhNCSPvHwg2Ri5liwR5zuJ/ALtL6jXJMlH3Btx90+D73+ddTArwhWzYLl0H1KtPu8KSdOL4qI5LBZ0lNwC4o= ; Message-ID: <20050705012955.29409.qmail@web53902.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [72.16.58.178] by web53902.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Mon, 04 Jul 2005 18:29:55 PDT Date: Mon, 4 Jul 2005 18:29:55 -0700 (PDT) From: David LeCount To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Subject: How to clear tun0 interface? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 05 Jul 2005 01:29:56 -0000 I've been trying to get IPv6 to work using the tsp client. It only works once per boot because I can't get tun0 to clear. I've tried "ifconfig tun0 destroy" and "ifconfig tun0 deletetunnel", both of which give errors. The only way I can clear it is to run ppp, which is very annoying. I appreciate any help. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - You care about security. So do we. http://promotions.yahoo.com/new_mail From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jul 5 01:58:47 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B9AE716A41C for ; Tue, 5 Jul 2005 01:58:47 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from hornetmadness@gmail.com) Received: from rproxy.gmail.com (rproxy.gmail.com [64.233.170.206]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 71E1E43D45 for ; Tue, 5 Jul 2005 01:58:47 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from hornetmadness@gmail.com) Received: by rproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 34so147189rns for ; Mon, 04 Jul 2005 18:58:46 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=nG2h4wgGNJp9mYaQdsGpq3W43JBrGpKfYfuACeoK/dD/YDJicoj3NvpsigEGBYgMGPoPEUS1njkW5tfERDfQcCIjbHduMfu2UDD1fYbCTVcPnZPj5bAQJGxaKeOKurznIuKVEBlmXp11pHkTTQquqBbqoN1g8bL4OPwow0ZxZnI= Received: by 10.38.195.4 with SMTP id s4mr2216786rnf; Mon, 04 Jul 2005 18:58:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.38.8.44 with HTTP; Mon, 4 Jul 2005 18:58:46 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Mon, 4 Jul 2005 21:58:46 -0400 From: Hornet To: "scuba@centroin.com.br" In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline References: Cc: FreeBSD questions Subject: Re: Where is the memory X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Hornet List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 05 Jul 2005 01:58:47 -0000 In top, if you type in "u" it will prompt you for an account which you can monitor the processes and mem. Of course, this will not work for apps that are opened under different credentials. On 7/4/05, scuba@centroin.com.br wrote: > Hi, >=20 > How can I track where/who is using the system memory? >=20 > I have a 2GB (RAM) system running Freebsd 5.4, basically as a mai= l > gateway. >=20 > After a few hours up, TOP shows me about 300MB of free memory. No > swap yet. >=20 > But the sum of RSS column of "ps axum", gives me about 600MB used= . > I know that kernel allocated memory doesn=B4t show in ps, but I > think it=B4s not using 1.4GB. >=20 > The head of top is like this: >=20 > last pid: 7323; load averages: 1.49, 1.11, 1.30 up 4+05:57:30 19:0= 1:05 > 184 processes: 1 running, 183 sleeping > CPU states: 16.7% user, 0.0% nice, 3.5% system, 0.6% interrupt, 79.3% = idle > Mem: 333M Active, 1218M Inact, 157M Wired, 42M Cache, 112M Buf, 256M Free > Swap: 8192M Total, 8192M Free >=20 > Also, why there is a difference between free memory reported by > top and vmstat? >=20 > Could it have some memory leak? Is there any report of it in > freebsd 5.x? >=20 > Thank you, >=20 > - Marcelo >=20 >=20 > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.o= rg" > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jul 5 02:37:10 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 77EF716A41C for ; Tue, 5 Jul 2005 02:37:10 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from wizlayer@gmail.com) Received: from engraver.valleygate.net (12-215-216-27.client.mchsi.com [12.215.216.27]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2E48743D45 for ; Tue, 5 Jul 2005 02:37:09 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from wizlayer@gmail.com) Received: from wizard.valleygate.net (wizard.valleygate.net [10.51.10.3]) by engraver.valleygate.net (8.13.3/8.13.3) with ESMTP id j652b80T019714; Mon, 4 Jul 2005 22:37:08 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from wizlayer@gmail.com) From: wizlayer To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Mon, 4 Jul 2005 22:37:05 -0400 User-Agent: KMail/1.8 References: <20050705012955.29409.qmail@web53902.mail.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <20050705012955.29409.qmail@web53902.mail.yahoo.com> X-Face: "e_)EG1Ia?&ecqhxa3_`G|cr35_87a'T"AlQ5IdTBhZiRj}wk9EdPBnW,=?iso-8859-1?q?oSeBhvgAPmZZU=24=0A?= W'Edks*9`,UQ3y\zk%deq; (N8p5>>Pdje|W%i2b7_C{KOi"JBmNTeItUGg\FX9`b#U4P X-Copyright: Copyright 2005, Michael Hauber, All rights reserved. X-Notice: Duplication, modification, and/or redistribution are prohibited without proper consent from the author. MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200507042237.06930.wizlayer@gmail.com> Cc: David LeCount Subject: Re: How to clear tun0 interface? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: wizlayer@gmail.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 05 Jul 2005 02:37:10 -0000 On Monday 04 July 2005 09:29 pm, David LeCount wrote: > I've been trying to get IPv6 to work using the tsp > client. It only works once per boot because I can't > get tun0 to clear. I've tried "ifconfig tun0 destroy" > and "ifconfig tun0 deletetunnel", both of which give > errors. The only way I can clear it is to run ppp, > which is very annoying. I appreciate any help. > What errors? WizLayer From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jul 5 03:44:20 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 41FE916A41C for ; Tue, 5 Jul 2005 03:44:20 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from larsen.nick@gmail.com) Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.200]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0AD9B43D49 for ; Tue, 5 Jul 2005 03:44:19 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from larsen.nick@gmail.com) Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id z6so430631nzd for ; Mon, 04 Jul 2005 20:44:19 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; b=gUK/rkAau/A/nzTCu8CTTPd2LImZ6F/qMTFXoJiUjfdhJV/VPhvHFerulq9QDywYwIiuxWoAXuzoKB1I0wPjq6fFTNdi7rn8gccQZJmVw83i0Hy8zf+OHmf9TCzUq/OtBioDJNqzMhI2W0QOs+M3Tdhq4GZ+X2IBx8WvAXdyLjk= Received: by 10.36.43.4 with SMTP id q4mr1340161nzq; Mon, 04 Jul 2005 20:44:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.103.9 with HTTP; Mon, 4 Jul 2005 20:44:19 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Tue, 5 Jul 2005 15:44:19 +1200 From: Nick Larsen To: questions@freebsd.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline Cc: Subject: Programs and lib's disappearing, FreeBSD 5.4 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Nick Larsen List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 05 Jul 2005 03:44:20 -0000 Hi, I love FreeBSD, but lately I've found in version 5.4-RELEASE every so often I won't be able to run a program as it depends on a library (which used to be there). Eg: today i tried to access my webserver...Failed... So I SSH'd into the box and ran # apachectl start It complained that it couldn't find libsasl2.so.2 which was needed by modules/libphp4.so, but my web server had been working fine other days, with absolutely no changes. I fixed this problem, and then it couldnt find some *expat*.so.5 file, which i then created sym links in /lib and /usr/lib (as it resides in /usr/local/lib) Later on today, I tried to sudo a command, and got... bash: sudo: command not found I had to reinstall sudo. I'm extremely cofused, and have checked auth.log (My passwords are quite difficult to crack as they have no meaning). From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jul 5 04:58:53 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E158916A41C for ; Tue, 5 Jul 2005 04:58:53 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from runfreebsd@yahoo.com) Received: from web52507.mail.yahoo.com (web52507.mail.yahoo.com [206.190.39.132]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 7A88F43D4C for ; Tue, 5 Jul 2005 04:58:53 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from runfreebsd@yahoo.com) Received: (qmail 62383 invoked by uid 60001); 5 Jul 2005 04:58:52 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=B5izlRWvTt9xZzk/pZYe95x7BK9aF7l7d7T86YB6Foqug1CVa3xMXNu9x91WUjERBDmJvMPXsD0wi7Sg/xwwvQ5ZSmk3uc1zaW/VD3Zv34CkQZmAencO3B+vK0zfDakGPs09vIZznJmOYCZauGKJCwd5WRsyzSSZme5uZwIOMGE= ; Message-ID: <20050705045852.62381.qmail@web52507.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [63.204.157.14] by web52507.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Mon, 04 Jul 2005 21:58:52 PDT Date: Mon, 4 Jul 2005 21:58:52 -0700 (PDT) From: Bill Schoolcraft To: FreeBSD MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Subject: CUPS "test-page" prints fine, nothing else.. (freebsd-5.4) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 05 Jul 2005 04:58:54 -0000 Hello Family, I was wondering if this is a bug somewhere in FreeBSD-5.4 or I've just been getting lucky with CUPS all the time... :) I have a HP 840c and it's connected remotely on my network with a fixed ipaddress and every box on my network can print to it and so can FreeBSD as long as it's from the CUPS interface/setup GUI and it's a test page, other than that -- zilch. I can't find anything anywhere that will give me a clue as to why this happens. TIA for any pointers on this. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jul 5 05:08:55 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DED9816A41C for ; Tue, 5 Jul 2005 05:08:55 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from kris@obsecurity.org) Received: from obsecurity.dyndns.org (CPE0050040655c8-CM00111ae02aac.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com [69.194.102.232]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9868A43D46 for ; Tue, 5 Jul 2005 05:08:55 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from kris@obsecurity.org) Received: by obsecurity.dyndns.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id DCBA652055; Tue, 5 Jul 2005 01:08:54 -0400 (EDT) Date: Tue, 5 Jul 2005 01:08:54 -0400 From: Kris Kennaway To: Nick Larsen Message-ID: <20050705050854.GA10829@xor.obsecurity.org> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="Nq2Wo0NMKNjxTN9z" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Programs and lib's disappearing, FreeBSD 5.4 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 05 Jul 2005 05:08:56 -0000 --Nq2Wo0NMKNjxTN9z Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Tue, Jul 05, 2005 at 03:44:19PM +1200, Nick Larsen wrote: > Hi, >=20 > I love FreeBSD, but lately I've found in version 5.4-RELEASE every so > often I won't be able to run a program as it depends on a library > (which used to be there). >=20 > Eg: today i tried to access my webserver...Failed... So I SSH'd into > the box and ran > # apachectl start >=20 > It complained that it couldn't find libsasl2.so.2 which was needed by > modules/libphp4.so, but my web server had been working fine other > days, with absolutely no changes. > I fixed this problem, and then it couldnt find some *expat*.so.5 file, > which i then created sym links in /lib and /usr/lib (as it resides in > /usr/local/lib) This was the wrong solution. > Later on today, I tried to sudo a command, and got... > bash: sudo: command not found >=20 > I had to reinstall sudo. >=20 > I'm extremely cofused, and have checked auth.log (My passwords are > quite difficult to crack as they have no meaning). Either you had/still have some serious disk corruption (drop to single-user mode and run fsck -f), or someone (e.g. another admin, or you in a moment of forgetfulness) did some deleting or a misdirected portupgrade session. Kris --Nq2Wo0NMKNjxTN9z Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.1 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFCyhXmWry0BWjoQKURAp/8AKCLQvyB9YU4JKxSpPLDUlZF3Wp2tACfRDD3 bq9dcuaHxnSoBUaApVimUR0= =oMJw -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Nq2Wo0NMKNjxTN9z-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jul 5 05:24:22 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7E44B16A41C for ; Tue, 5 Jul 2005 05:24:22 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from root@pukruppa.de) Received: from moutng.kundenserver.de (moutng.kundenserver.de [212.227.126.183]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 135F243D48 for ; Tue, 5 Jul 2005 05:24:21 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from root@pukruppa.de) Received: from reverse-213-146-114-24.cust.kamp-dsl.de [213.146.114.24] (helo=reverse-213-146-114-24.cust.kamp-dsl.de) by mrelayeu.kundenserver.de with ESMTP (Nemesis), id 0ML25U-1Dpfut0djn-0002Co; Tue, 05 Jul 2005 07:24:19 +0200 Date: Tue, 5 Jul 2005 07:25:11 +0200 (CEST) From: "P.U.Kruppa" X-X-Sender: root@www.pukruppa.net To: Bill Schoolcraft In-Reply-To: <20050705045852.62381.qmail@web52507.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <20050705071816.F82905@www.pukruppa.net> References: <20050705045852.62381.qmail@web52507.mail.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Provags-ID: kundenserver.de abuse@kundenserver.de login:2446dbdf8275641f979193ced594c629 Cc: FreeBSD Subject: Re: CUPS "test-page" prints fine, nothing else.. (freebsd-5.4) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 05 Jul 2005 05:24:22 -0000 On Mon, 4 Jul 2005, Bill Schoolcraft wrote: > Hello Family, > > I was wondering if this is a bug somewhere in FreeBSD-5.4 or I've just > been getting lucky with CUPS all the time... :) > > I have a HP 840c and it's connected remotely on my network with a fixed > ipaddress and every box on my network can print to it and so can > FreeBSD as long as it's from the CUPS interface/setup GUI and it's a > test page, other than that -- zilch. This is just a quickshot - since I have no such setup available at the moment: check if the native FreeBSD lpr in /usr/bin/lpr is still active - cups' lpr lives in /usr/local/bin/lpr and won't be executed then. If this is the case you should be able to print with # /usr/local/bin/lpr your_file and in Google you can find descriptions how to fix this properly. Regards, Uli. > > I can't find anything anywhere that will give me a clue as to why this > happens. > > TIA for any pointers on this. > > > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around > http://mail.yahoo.com > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > ********************************************* * Peter Ulrich Kruppa - Wuppertal - Germany * ********************************************* From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jul 5 06:08:55 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4C56816A41C for ; Tue, 5 Jul 2005 06:08:55 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from dick@nagual.st) Received: from nagual.st (cc20684-a.assen1.dr.home.nl [82.74.2.254]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D4CAF43D4C for ; Tue, 5 Jul 2005 06:08:54 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from dick@nagual.st) Received: from pooh.nagual.st (localhost.nagual.st [127.0.0.1]) by nagual.st (8.13.3/8.13.3/arwen) with ESMTP id j6568wN2000591 for ; Tue, 5 Jul 2005 08:08:58 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from dick@pooh.nagual.st) Received: (from dick@localhost) by pooh.nagual.st (8.13.3/8.13.3/Submit) id j6568vaH000590 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Tue, 5 Jul 2005 08:08:57 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from dick) From: dick hoogendijk Date: Tue, 5 Jul 2005 08:08:57 +0200 To: freebsd-questions Message-ID: <20050705060857.GA560@pooh.nagual.st> References: <200507042252.j64MqleE088318@unsane.co.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <200507042252.j64MqleE088318@unsane.co.uk> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Subject: Re: Using unix mail with maildir format X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 05 Jul 2005 06:08:55 -0000 On 04 Jul Vince wrote: > Unix "mail" wont as maildir is not the original unix format. > Mave a look at the nail port "mail/nail" > It can/does have a mail type interface and reads maildir. As we talk about the original *NIX mail format I have a question about mbox <> maildir too. I'm about to set up a new (mail) system; pop3, imap supported So I have a choice: use sendmail/procmail + imap-uw -> the standard UNIX mail format or.. use the courier package -> gives me the Maildir format. What are the pro's and cons for/against both mail standards? Won't the maildir format with all this separate mails not be more difficult to maintain? I have to say that running courier/maildir never gave problems 'till now but having the chooce I very much want some insights/advice on this matter. Some reading points are OK too ;-) -- dick -- http://nagual.st/ -- PGP/GnuPG key: F86289CE ++ Running FreeBSD 4.11-stable ++ FreeBSD 5.4 + Nai tiruvantel ar vayuvantel i Valar tielyanna nu vilja From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jul 5 06:15:53 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 55E8116A41C for ; Tue, 5 Jul 2005 06:15:53 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from chad@shire.net) Received: from hobbiton.shire.net (hobbiton.shire.net [166.70.252.250]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 23BF543D49 for ; Tue, 5 Jul 2005 06:15:53 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from chad@shire.net) Received: from [67.161.222.227] (helo=[192.168.99.68]) by hobbiton.shire.net with esmtpa (Exim 4.51) id 1Dpgil-0003LH-9P; Tue, 05 Jul 2005 00:15:51 -0600 In-Reply-To: <20050705060857.GA560@pooh.nagual.st> References: <200507042252.j64MqleE088318@unsane.co.uk> <20050705060857.GA560@pooh.nagual.st> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v730) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: "Chad Leigh -- Shire.Net LLC" Date: Tue, 5 Jul 2005 00:15:50 -0600 To: dick hoogendijk X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.730) X-SA-Exim-Connect-IP: 67.161.222.227 X-SA-Exim-Mail-From: chad@shire.net X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.0.3 (2005-04-27) on hobbiton.shire.net X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.2 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_50, GREYLIST_ISWHITE autolearn=disabled version=3.0.3 X-SA-Exim-Version: 4.2 (built Mon May 30 00:43:02 MDT 2005) X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes (on hobbiton.shire.net) Cc: freebsd-questions Subject: Re: Using unix mail with maildir format X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 05 Jul 2005 06:15:53 -0000 On Jul 5, 2005, at 12:08 AM, dick hoogendijk wrote: > What are the pro's and cons for/against both mail standards? > Won't the maildir format with all this separate mails not be more > difficult to maintain? In what way more difficult to maintain? maildir makes backups "easier" as incrmental backups truly are incremental. With standard mbox format the whole thing is backed up every time if any new mail has come or mail downloaded, etc. There are various performance reasons for maildir as well. Try Google. I am sure you will find a whole ton of stuff comparing the two. Chad --- Chad Leigh -- Shire.Net LLC Your Web App and Email hosting provider chad@shire.net From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jul 5 06:31:33 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3733316A41C for ; Tue, 5 Jul 2005 06:31:33 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from NKoch@demig.de) Received: from server.absolute-media.de (server.absolute-media.de [213.239.231.9]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E273C43D49 for ; Tue, 5 Jul 2005 06:31:32 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from NKoch@demig.de) Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by server.absolute-media.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 83FE288967; Tue, 5 Jul 2005 08:31:30 +0200 (CEST) Received: from server.absolute-media.de ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (server [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 16811-10; Tue, 5 Jul 2005 08:31:24 +0200 (CEST) Received: from firewall.demig (p508398F8.dip0.t-ipconnect.de [80.131.152.248]) by server.absolute-media.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id B3DB07EF15; Tue, 5 Jul 2005 08:31:24 +0200 (CEST) Received: from ws-ew-3 (ws-ew-3.w2kdemig [192.168.1.72]) by firewall.demig (8.13.4/8.13.1) with SMTP id j656UOmF019291; Tue, 5 Jul 2005 08:30:24 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from NKoch@demig.de) From: "Norbert Koch" To: "Emanuel Strobl" , Date: Tue, 5 Jul 2005 08:30:13 +0200 Message-ID: <000801c5812b$00154d20$4801a8c0@ws-ew-3.W2KDEMIG> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2120.0 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <200506292122.09097@harrymail> X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at absolute-media.de Cc: Subject: RE: uplcom a callin only device? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 05 Jul 2005 06:31:33 -0000 > -----Original Message----- > From: Emanuel Strobl [mailto:Emanuel.strobl@gmx.net] > Sent: Wednesday, June 29, 2005 9:22 PM > To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > Cc: Norbert Koch > Subject: Re: uplcom a callin only device? > > > Am Mittwoch, 29. Juni 2005 16:32 schrieb Norbert Koch: > > > 5.4 has the new uplcom driver which checks the revision maybe you > > > can apply > > > the cvs version to your 5.3 (guess). > > > > > > -Harry > > > > I tested this with RELENG_5 as of last week. > > Hmm, then you have the new uplcom driver... > > > The device seems to be correctly recognized. > > I see /dev/ucom0 appearing, when I connect > > the adaptor. > > That's the problem, the chipset has the same id although it's design has > changed. > What does usbdevs -v say? You'll have a line like: > USB-Serial Controller(0x2303), Prolific Technology Inc.(0x067b), rev 3.00 > > Rev. 3.00 ist the latest I have, the former was 2.02. Maybe they > once again > designed a new chipset... > Here's my usbdevs output USB-Serial Controller(0x2303), Prolific Technology Inc.(0x067b), rev 3.00 Norbert From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jul 5 07:13:32 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C373516A41C for ; Tue, 5 Jul 2005 07:13:32 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from mike@hyperreal.org) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz3.hyperreal.org [209.237.226.90]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 6F12A43D48 for ; Tue, 5 Jul 2005 07:13:32 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from mike@hyperreal.org) Received: (qmail 26329 invoked by uid 1001); 5 Jul 2005 07:13:36 -0000 Message-ID: <20050705071336.26328.qmail@hyperreal.org> In-Reply-To: <20050703215922.GA9626@kongemord.krig.net> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Tue, 5 Jul 2005 00:13:36 -0700 (PDT) Sender: mike@hyperreal.org From: Mike Brown X-Whoa: whoa. X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL119 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Subject: Re: Linux move to FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 05 Jul 2005 07:13:32 -0000 Bob Hall wrote: > The belief that guys with red skin, horns, pointy tails, and pitchforks > represent the devil is a European superstition, not a Christian > doctrine. There's no support for it in the Bible or the writings of the > church fathers. There is also no support, except among BSD fans, for horned, pointy-tailed, red-skinned creatures with pitchforks representing anything other than a li'l devil. Saying it represents an invisible, oft-benevolent 'daemon' has very little credibility when the mascot was clearly intended to look like what two-thirds of humanity would recognize as _el diablo_, albeit an awfully harmless, cartoony one. I think I will give one of my favorite input & control devices, the 'mouse', a mascot. It'll look a lot like this guy: http://images.google.com/images?q=mickey%20mouse ...but if anyone complains I'll just tell them it's clearly not an animate rodent, but is rather a stylized, anthropomorphic interpretation of a computer accessory. I'm sure the lawyers at Disney will see my point of view. Hey, if it works for Beastie the "daemon"... On a more serious note, am I the only one who has been getting hiccups of freebsd-questions mail from last year? I just got a bunch of traffic (including one of the previous incarnations of this abysmal Beastie logo non-debate) from late December, all posts that I had seen before. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jul 5 07:30:51 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A5FC816A41C for ; Tue, 5 Jul 2005 07:30:51 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from japz20@yahoo.com) Received: from web50303.mail.yahoo.com (web50303.mail.yahoo.com [206.190.38.57]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 4232543D49 for ; Tue, 5 Jul 2005 07:30:51 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from japz20@yahoo.com) Received: (qmail 92347 invoked by uid 60001); 5 Jul 2005 07:30:50 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=3jZ/rcf/aZdPGiF5RBPFptUkQp9/LpKcRPKjOvGQkUhQWFG/U44ac5F3GBucfePWXAWPm/bjp0E90aMwr9VZVOf2yZ10SUXPUd47N0nvPoVpX6/vMzo4JHrBO+kiJoh8Qt2H46/TgPepfYSti/ECPrEYVm0aShmZPVay6tOPoNM= ; Message-ID: <20050705073050.92345.qmail@web50303.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [202.138.180.33] by web50303.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Tue, 05 Jul 2005 00:30:50 PDT Date: Tue, 5 Jul 2005 00:30:50 -0700 (PDT) From: "Jamie Ann P. Zamodio" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Subject: Linksys WMP11 on Freebsd 4.3 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 05 Jul 2005 07:30:51 -0000 Hi, I would just like to ask if there is any way at all that I can configure the Linksys wireless PCI card (WMP11) to work on Freebsd 4.3? I know the card's not compatible, but if I can't make it work I'll have to buy a wireless card that IS compatible and I'm hoping I wouldn't have to do that. Any help at all would be appreciated. Thank you very much! ____________________________________________________ Yahoo! Sports Rekindle the Rivalries. Sign up for Fantasy Football http://football.fantasysports.yahoo.com From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jul 5 08:25:45 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 83C2B16A41C for ; Tue, 5 Jul 2005 08:25:45 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from tobiastom@gmail.com) Received: from nproxy.gmail.com (nproxy.gmail.com [64.233.182.201]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 143ED43D45 for ; Tue, 5 Jul 2005 08:25:44 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from tobiastom@gmail.com) Received: by nproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id g2so194641nfe for ; Tue, 05 Jul 2005 01:25:43 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=ES9eEyfjel/EX9wnGOhBhy+nYjeptNQwiVX5jSR09s2anpjHoJciVgex9UC70usZwifM9ElH2k2b/UGHczmC+sWuJ72kUAW3F1J120PoOE7avwlNvRKIcuIMfbjtcHgERCKO/sj/muBiwdm9xf6KQHsNcuNr6nFPxNKvZQz07v8= Received: by 10.48.244.19 with SMTP id r19mr134745nfh; Tue, 05 Jul 2005 01:25:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.48.244.6 with HTTP; Tue, 5 Jul 2005 01:25:43 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Tue, 5 Jul 2005 10:25:43 +0200 From: Tobias Tom To: Bryan Maynard In-Reply-To: <200507031500.35157.bryan.maynard@reallm.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline References: <200507031500.35157.bryan.maynard@reallm.com> Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD 5.4 ndis support X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Tobias Tom List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 05 Jul 2005 08:25:45 -0000 > Anyway, there is a utility in 5.4 (I think that's that's where it showed = up) > called "ndisgen". Running ndisgen steps you through a wonderful little sc= ript > that asks for for the location of your INF and SYS files, generates you .= h > file and kernel module. I did that ... thank you very much ... it generated a rt2500_sys.ko .. and that could be loaded by hand. Now I have just the Problem left that it does not work when i try to load it on boot. Is there anything I have to do except copy that file to /boot/kernel and enter load_rt200_sys=3D"yes" to loader.conf? > I was getting the same "No such file or directory" error until I ran ndis= gen. Maybe you could try kldload ./. That worked here. And after all, I saw that inside the manual is written down that only prism chipset cards are supported to run as an access point. Is that still correct? Or is there any change to get it run. The Interface seems to work now. When I try to use wicontrol it tells me "wicontrol: SIOCGWAVELAN: Device not configured". Please tell me that my card will work, too ;o) Thanks for your Help Regards Tobias From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jul 5 08:27:06 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 247AB16A41C for ; Tue, 5 Jul 2005 08:27:06 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from igorr@speechpro.com) Received: from speechpro.com (speech-tech-2.ip.PeterStar.net [81.3.190.130]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D1B7843D45 for ; Tue, 5 Jul 2005 08:27:05 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from igorr@speechpro.com) Received: from sysadm.stc ([192.168.2.26]) by s1.stc with esmtp (Exim 4.44 (FreeBSD)) id 1Dpilj-000GWp-UA; Tue, 05 Jul 2005 12:27:03 +0400 Message-ID: <42CA4442.3010604@speechpro.com> Date: Tue, 05 Jul 2005 12:26:42 +0400 From: Igor Robul User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.2 (X11/20050518) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Eddie Colon References: <20050703150207.4952.qmail@web30015.mail.mud.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <20050703150207.4952.qmail@web30015.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Archived: Yes Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: new convert X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 05 Jul 2005 08:27:06 -0000 Hello. Eddie Colon wrote: >Hello > > I will be a new FreeBSD user as soon as I receive my DVD. I am >a Linux user for a few yrs now. I have a few concerns, I hope you >can answer me, I don't belong to any mailing lists. I don't think >there are any user groups down here in Puerto Rico. > > FreeBSD in general supports "consumer hardware" worse than various Linux distributives, so you will have problems. >1- Can you tell me if it has trouble detecting built-in >modems? I have a notebook, an HP nx9020 and it's built-in modem uses >the conexant chipset, My SuSE 9.3 had trouble with that until I got >a 3rd party driver from www.linuxant.com. So, will run into the same >thing with freebsd? > > I dont think that you'll be able use this modem :-( with FreeBSD >2- I have a HP scanjet 4600 scanner (usb) that doesn't have a linux >driver... either from HP themselves or from the linux community. I >can use it with my old windows desktop , but not with linux. Can >you suggest any possible FreeBSD solution? > > usanner(4) suppors 4300C, so maybe it will support 4600, but in general you must expect problems. >3- Will FreeBSD detect my Palm cradle (usb)? I use my PDA alot. >I really like Jpilot as my pda gui app. Do you know of other Jpilot >users that use FreeBSD ? > > > Maybe it will work. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jul 5 09:07:32 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C7F6416A41C for ; Tue, 5 Jul 2005 09:07:32 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jaapb@kerguelen.org) Received: from societe.kerguelen.org (catv9079.extern.kun.nl [131.174.119.79]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3C42D43D46 for ; Tue, 5 Jul 2005 09:07:31 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jaapb@kerguelen.org) Received: from societe.kerguelen.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by societe.kerguelen.org (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j64GIOFC014831 for ; Mon, 4 Jul 2005 18:18:24 +0200 (CEST) Received: from localhost (jaapb@localhost) by societe.kerguelen.org (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j64GIOfZ003507 for ; Mon, 4 Jul 2005 18:18:24 +0200 (CEST) Date: Mon, 4 Jul 2005 18:18:23 +0200 (CEST) From: Jaap Boender To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Subject: fsck_ext2fs problems X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 05 Jul 2005 09:07:32 -0000 Hi all, I'd like to share a filesystem on the same computer between FreeBSD and Linux, and as it seems that FreeBSD supports ext2 better than Linux does ufs(2), I've created an ext2 filesystem. Mounting & accessing Works fine, except when I try to fsck it, fsck_ext2fs fails with the error message: "execve: No such file or directory". When I use the e2fsck program, however, I can fsck the filesystem just fine. Unfortunately, at boot time, FreeBSD wants to use fsck_ext2fs... A quick search on the Internet didn't show any solutions, so - does anybody here know what I can do to get rid of the error message? Thanks, Jaap Boender From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jul 5 09:19:59 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 761C316A41C for ; Tue, 5 Jul 2005 09:19:59 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from roman@elance.ch) Received: from mail.elance.ch (mail.elance.ch [212.147.33.95]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E523443D45 for ; Tue, 5 Jul 2005 09:19:58 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from roman@elance.ch) Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5.7226.0 Date: Tue, 5 Jul 2005 11:20:01 +0200 Message-ID: <0F6AE12F69D1854B9098F77A268ED1302551@hyperion.elance.ch> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: Running FreeBSD server behind a firewall with nat Thread-Index: AcWBQrUDmZW1tDmXTtOD9Ta2uT3FBQ== From: "Roman Kouzmenko" To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: Running FreeBSD server behind a firewall with nat X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 05 Jul 2005 09:19:59 -0000 Hi, =20 I'm really new to FreeBSD and UNIX, and I have to configure it to host a webserver. After a week I've managed to install Apache/mySQL/PhP and get everything running as I want it on my local network. =20 Now I need to put it on the Internet, so that the developers can take control over it (ssh, ftp). The problem is that at the moment when I activate one-to-one nat on my hardware firewall for this machine, the services stop working and behave strangely (for example, if I connect to the box using ssh, it prompts for the login and nothing else happens, ftp doesn't work either). If I try to reboot, sendmail doesn't start at all (it just hangs, so I have to hit ^C to stop the script). =20 I haven't found any information about configuring this correctly on the Internet, so I hope I can find an answer here. =20 Thanks! From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jul 5 10:27:46 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: FreeBSD-Questions@FreeBSD.ORG Delivered-To: FreeBSD-Questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A1D3116A41C for ; Tue, 5 Jul 2005 10:27:46 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from xfb52@dial.pipex.com) Received: from smtp-out6.blueyonder.co.uk (smtp-out6.blueyonder.co.uk [195.188.213.9]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3CC2E43D46 for ; Tue, 5 Jul 2005 10:27:45 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from xfb52@dial.pipex.com) Received: from [82.41.37.55] ([82.41.37.55]) by smtp-out6.blueyonder.co.uk with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.6713); Tue, 5 Jul 2005 11:28:27 +0100 Message-ID: <42CA609F.3040701@dial.pipex.com> Date: Tue, 05 Jul 2005 11:27:43 +0100 From: Alex Zbyslaw User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-GB; rv:1.7.8) Gecko/20050530 X-Accept-Language: en, en-us, pl MIME-Version: 1.0 To: steve lasiter References: <20050704231717.88135.qmail@web33612.mail.mud.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <20050704231717.88135.qmail@web33612.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-OriginalArrivalTime: 05 Jul 2005 10:28:27.0169 (UTC) FILETIME=[47C7A110:01C5814C] Cc: FreeBSD-Questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: accidental overwrite X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 05 Jul 2005 10:27:46 -0000 steve lasiter wrote: >until today when I tried to copy over a .sql file so >MySQL could see it and run it. I accidentally copied >it over to /usr/local/bin/mysql thinking mysql was a >directory. > > >My question(s) are: Is there any way to revert back to >the original file if this type of mistake is made? > > Anyone, running any computer with any operating system who does not keep backups is asking for trouble. FreeBSD is no different to anything else in that regard. In this case you destroyed a file which has virtual backup in the form of the Internet. Recover it by re-installing the package. Some simple rules you could follow to try and avoid doing this again: 1) Don't do something as root unless you have to. 2) Explore the -i options to cp, mv and rm and set them up as aliases for your own account and for root. This is not foolproof because there are dozens of utilities which can also overwrite files (tar, rsync, rdist, scp, cpio to name a few). 3) Explore options your shell might have to avoid overwriting files. E.g. tcsh has noclobber and you shell will have something similar. 4) Modern shells have command-line expansion. Use it to expand the target of your cp to see if it already exists or not, is a directory or not etc. 5) Unix of any kind is the single most complicated "thing" you will ever use in your life. Buy a book; read the handbook; read manual pages. Learn about it and you can hopefully minimise the mistakes. 6) Make backups regularly. Not everything is on the internet. There are many options from CDs, through flash sticks, to tapes and autochangers. You can add another disk to your PC or to another PC. You can do more than of these. You should use them regularly if you consider your data to be precious. --Alex From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jul 5 10:34:55 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7539016A41C for ; Tue, 5 Jul 2005 10:34:55 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from iqgrande@gmail.com) Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.206]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2ED6D43D48 for ; Tue, 5 Jul 2005 10:34:55 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from iqgrande@gmail.com) Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 8so432412nzo for ; Tue, 05 Jul 2005 03:34:54 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:in-reply-to:references:mime-version:content-type:message-id:cc:content-transfer-encoding:from:subject:date:to:x-mailer; b=jUwM6kI+hcNhTeMttdCvgJZu6yZ9T8hj3KCFyKpF3pc7pbTod4BSJxH1r13mXQ27HVZRcZvy008TyNQOfInc2emuxVlg0slqSvk+KeBd4fkcef+wZMlSCyvP/R6VLVAPzraMyzmgUwflGy1zWtCQfTdbIjZ5MWW05WSj6ehmyuk= Received: by 10.36.222.60 with SMTP id u60mr1519287nzg; Tue, 05 Jul 2005 03:34:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ?192.168.0.2? ([24.30.63.114]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id 36sm1196935nzk.2005.07.05.03.34.54; Tue, 05 Jul 2005 03:34:54 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <42CA2654.3070702@speechpro.com> References: <20050630001004.GA60781@logik.ath.cx> <42C3BB88.60609@dial.pipex.com> <42C73D17.3080208@dial.pipex.com> <20050703182218.GB79411@logik.ath.cx> <5095AEAE-708B-4936-873C-5B932EF75FB6@gmail.com> <20050704032455.GA76514@logik.ath.cx> <7A4A588A-D5CE-455C-9EE3-E464AFFF4A45@gmail.com> <42CA2654.3070702@speechpro.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v730) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: <59C0E259-D1B7-41DF-9177-E5E6607EFD67@gmail.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: "Anthony M. Agelastos" Date: Tue, 5 Jul 2005 06:34:51 -0400 To: Igor Robul X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.730) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: NVIDIA TNT2 woes X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 05 Jul 2005 10:34:55 -0000 On Jul 5, 2005, at 2:19 AM, Igor Robul wrote: > Anthony M. Agelastos wrote: > > >>> >>> >> As my xorg.conf looks just about identical, does anyone on the >> list have a nvidia RIVA TNT where their OpenGL works through the >> nv driver? If so, I would like to figure out what makes it work >> for you and not for me. >> > > Have you installed graphics/dri port? > Somehow for some reason, I have. It must have been a dependency for some other program. In any event, attached below is a copy of my xorg.conf. If OpenGL should somewhat work with dri (which I had never heard of before this post), then I am wondering what is not configured properly (my xorg.conf has it enabling dri in the Module section). Thank you all for your help. > pkg_info | grep -i dri | grep -i OpenGL dri-6.2.1,2 OpenGL hardware acceleration drivers for the DRI > cat xorg.conf Section "ServerLayout" Identifier "X.org Configured" Screen 0 "Screen0" 0 0 InputDevice "Mouse0" "CorePointer" InputDevice "Keyboard0" "CoreKeyboard" EndSection Section "Files" RgbPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/rgb" ModulePath "/usr/X11R6/lib/modules" FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/misc/" FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/TTF/" FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/Type1/" FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/CID/" FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi/" FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi/" EndSection Section "Module" Load "extmod" Load "glx" Load "dri" Load "dbe" Load "record" Load "xtrap" Load "type1" Load "freetype" EndSection Section "InputDevice" Identifier "Keyboard0" Driver "kbd" EndSection Section "InputDevice" Identifier "Mouse0" Driver "mouse" Option "Protocol" "auto" Option "Device" "/dev/sysmouse" EndSection Section "Monitor" #DisplaySize 330 240 # mm Identifier "Monitor0" VendorName "DEL" ModelName "DELL D1025TM" ### Uncomment if you don't want to default to DDC: # HorizSync 30.0 - 85.0 # VertRefresh 50.0 - 120.0 Option "DPMS" EndSection Section "Device" ### Available Driver options are:- ### Values: : integer, : float, : "True"/"False", ### : "String", : " Hz/kHz/MHz" ### [arg]: arg optional #Option "SWcursor" # [] #Option "HWcursor" # [] #Option "NoAccel" # [] #Option "ShadowFB" # [] #Option "UseFBDev" # [] #Option "Rotate" # [] #Option "VideoKey" # #Option "FlatPanel" # [] #Option "FPDither" # [] #Option "CrtcNumber" # #Option "FPScale" # [] #Option "FPTweak" # Identifier "Card0" Driver "nv" VendorName "nVidia Corporation" BoardName "NV4 [RIVA TNT]" BusID "PCI:1:0:0" EndSection Section "Screen" Identifier "Screen0" Device "Card0" Monitor "Monitor0" DefaultDepth 16 SubSection "Display" Viewport 0 0 Depth 1 EndSubSection SubSection "Display" Viewport 0 0 Depth 4 EndSubSection SubSection "Display" Viewport 0 0 Depth 8 EndSubSection SubSection "Display" Viewport 0 0 Depth 15 EndSubSection SubSection "Display" Viewport 0 0 Depth 16 Modes "1024x768" EndSubSection SubSection "Display" Viewport 0 0 Depth 24 EndSubSection EndSection From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jul 5 10:36:53 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 324A616A41C for ; Tue, 5 Jul 2005 10:36:53 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from xfb52@dial.pipex.com) Received: from smtp-out3.blueyonder.co.uk (smtp-out3.blueyonder.co.uk [195.188.213.6]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C59BA43D46 for ; Tue, 5 Jul 2005 10:36:52 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from xfb52@dial.pipex.com) Received: from [82.41.37.55] ([82.41.37.55]) by smtp-out3.blueyonder.co.uk with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.6713); Tue, 5 Jul 2005 11:37:32 +0100 Message-ID: <42CA62C1.3090307@dial.pipex.com> Date: Tue, 05 Jul 2005 11:36:49 +0100 From: Alex Zbyslaw User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-GB; rv:1.7.8) Gecko/20050530 X-Accept-Language: en, en-us, pl MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Jaap Boender References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-OriginalArrivalTime: 05 Jul 2005 10:37:32.0763 (UTC) FILETIME=[8CFAAAB0:01C5814D] Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: fsck_ext2fs problems X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 05 Jul 2005 10:36:53 -0000 Jaap Boender wrote: > Hi all, > > I'd like to share a filesystem on the same computer between FreeBSD > and Linux, > and as it seems that FreeBSD supports ext2 better than Linux does > ufs(2), I've > created an ext2 filesystem. Mounting & accessing Works fine, except > when I try > to fsck it, fsck_ext2fs fails with the error message: > "execve: No such file or directory". When I use the e2fsck program, > however, > I can fsck the filesystem just fine. Unfortunately, at boot time, FreeBSD > wants to use fsck_ext2fs... > > A quick search on the Internet didn't show any solutions, so - does > anybody > here know what I can do to get rid of the error message? Does Linux maybe support UFS(1) better than UFS(2)? Are you running ext2fs from Linux? If you are running it from FreeBSD then try making a symlink in /sbin from fsck_ext2fs to wherever you have e2fsck and make sure that e2fsck will be available when fsck runs. That almost certainly means it has to bee on your root partition. (Or just copy it to /sbin). If you do not want to fsck the filesystem at all at startup then set the sixth (last) field in /etc/fstab to 0. --Alex From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jul 5 10:37:37 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9135F16A41C for ; Tue, 5 Jul 2005 10:37:37 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from r-militante@northwestern.edu) Received: from merle.it.northwestern.edu (merle.it.northwestern.edu [129.105.16.57]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 314AD43D45 for ; Tue, 5 Jul 2005 10:37:37 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from r-militante@northwestern.edu) Received: (from mailnull@localhost) by merle.it.northwestern.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) id j65AbaIe007264 for ; Tue, 5 Jul 2005 05:37:36 -0500 (CDT) Received: from merle.it.northwestern.edu (darkpossum.medill.northwestern.edu [129.105.246.24]) by merle.it.northwestern.edu via smap (V2.0) id xma007208; Tue, 5 Jul 05 05:37:30 -0500 Date: Tue, 5 Jul 2005 05:40:29 -0500 From: Redmond Militante To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20050705104029.GB2551@darkpossum> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="5I6of5zJg18YgZEa" Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i X-Sender: redmond@darkpossum.medill.northwestern.edu X-URL: http://darkpossum.medill.northwestern.edu/gnupg.php X-PGP-Fingerprint: 2AA2 E78E A6FC 9144 3534 39A2 EE0F 8D26 5FDF 481D Subject: error installing graphics/ImageMagick from ports X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Redmond Militante List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 05 Jul 2005 10:37:37 -0000 --5I6of5zJg18YgZEa Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable hello- i get an error installing graphics/ImageMagick 4.11-RELEASE-p8 FreeBSD 4.11-RELEASE-p8 #0:=20 i tried cvsup'ing my ports tree. same error. error log is below, if anyone can suggest anything. i'd like to install th= is port. =2E... -I/usr/local/include/freetype2 -I/usr/local/include -I/usr/local/include -I= /usr/X11R6/include -I/X11 -I/usr/local/include/libxml2 -O -pipe -Wall -c -= o coders/magick_libMagick_la-jbig.lo `test -f 'coders/jbig.c' || echo './'`= coders/jbig.c source=3D'coders/jpeg.c' object=3D'coders/magick_libMagick_la-jpeg.lo' libt= ool=3Dyes \ DEPDIR=3D.deps depmode=3Dgcc /bin/sh ./depcomp \ /bin/sh /usr/local/bin/libtool15 --silent --tag=3DCC --mode=3Dcompile cc -D= HAVE_CONFIG_H -I. -I. -I./magick -I./ltdl -I./ltdl -I/usr/local/include/f= reetype2 -I/usr/local/include -I/usr/local/include -I/usr/X11R6/include -I/= X11 -I/usr/local/include/libxml2 -O -pipe -Wall -c -o coders/magick_libMag= ick_la-jpeg.lo `test -f 'coders/jpeg.c' || echo './'`coders/jpeg.c coders/jpeg.c: In function `ReadJPEGImage': coders/jpeg.c:654: warning: variable `image' might be clobbered by `longjmp= ' or `vfork' coders/jpeg.c:1102: warning: variable `image' might be clobbered by `longjm= p' or `vfork' coders/jpeg.c:1122: warning: variable `image' might be clobbered by `longjm= p' or `vfork' source=3D'coders/jp2.c' object=3D'coders/magick_libMagick_la-jp2.lo' libtoo= l=3Dyes \ DEPDIR=3D.deps depmode=3Dgcc /bin/sh ./depcomp \ /bin/sh /usr/local/bin/libtool15 --silent --tag=3DCC --mode=3Dcompile cc -D= HAVE_CONFIG_H -I. -I. -I./magick -I./ltdl -I./ltdl -I/usr/local/include/f= reetype2 -I/usr/local/include -I/usr/local/include -I/usr/X11R6/include -I/= X11 -I/usr/local/include/libxml2 -O -pipe -Wall -c -o coders/magick_libMag= ick_la-jp2.lo `test -f 'coders/jp2.c' || echo './'`coders/jp2.c In file included from /usr/local/include/jasper/jasper.h:121, from coders/jp2.c:78: /usr/local/include/jasper/jas_image.h:152: warning: `/*' within comment coders/jp2.c: In function `ReadJP2Image': coders/jp2.c:280: `jas_cmprof_t' undeclared (first use in this function) coders/jp2.c:280: (Each undeclared identifier is reported only once coders/jp2.c:280: for each function it appears in.) coders/jp2.c:280: `cm_profile' undeclared (first use in this function) coders/jp2.c:279: warning: statement with no effect coders/jp2.c:283: `jas_iccprof_t' undeclared (first use in this function) coders/jp2.c:283: `icc_profile' undeclared (first use in this function) coders/jp2.c:282: warning: statement with no effect coders/jp2.c:286: syntax error before `*' coders/jp2.c:327: `status' undeclared (first use in this function) coders/jp2.c:337: `jp2_stream' undeclared (first use in this function) coders/jp2.c:340: `jp2_image' undeclared (first use in this function) coders/jp2.c:346: warning: implicit declaration of function `jas_clrspc_fam' coders/jp2.c:346: warning: implicit declaration of function `jas_image_clrs= pc' coders/jp2.c:348: `JAS_CLRSPC_FAM_RGB' undeclared (first use in this functi= on) coders/jp2.c:350: `components' undeclared (first use in this function) coders/jp2.c:359: `number_components' undeclared (first use in this functio= n) coders/jp2.c:368: `JAS_CLRSPC_FAM_GRAY' undeclared (first use in this funct= ion) coders/jp2.c:380: `JAS_CLRSPC_FAM_YCBCR' undeclared (first use in this func= tion) coders/jp2.c:355: warning: unreachable code at beginning of switch statement coders/jp2.c:410: `i' undeclared (first use in this function) coders/jp2.c:424: `x_step' undeclared (first use in this function) coders/jp2.c:425: `y_step' undeclared (first use in this function) coders/jp2.c:437: `maximum_component_depth' undeclared (first use in this f= unction) coders/jp2.c:442: `pixels' undeclared (first use in this function) coders/jp2.c:455: `scale' undeclared (first use in this function) coders/jp2.c:468: `q' undeclared (first use in this function) coders/jp2.c:490: `x' undeclared (first use in this function) coders/jp2.c:488: warning: unreachable code at beginning of switch statement coders/jp2.c:558: warning: implicit declaration of function `jas_image_cmpr= of' coders/jp2.c:559: syntax error before `)' coders/jp2.c:560: syntax error before `)' coders/jp2.c:562: syntax error before `)' coders/jp2.c:567: `icc_stream' undeclared (first use in this function) coders/jp2.c:569: warning: implicit declaration of function `jas_iccprof_sa= ve' coders/jp2.c: At top level: coders/jp2.c:597: syntax error before `void' coders/jp2.c:598: warning: type defaults to `int' in declaration of `jas_im= age_destroy' coders/jp2.c:598: warning: parameter names (without types) in function decl= aration coders/jp2.c:598: conflicting types for `jas_image_destroy' /usr/local/include/jasper/jas_image.h:348: previous declaration of `jas_ima= ge_destroy' coders/jp2.c:598: warning: data definition has no type or storage class coders/jp2.c:599: syntax error before `for' coders/jp2.c:86: warning: `WriteJP2Image' declared `static' but never defin= ed coders/jp2.c:117: warning: `IsJP2' defined but not used coders/jp2.c:153: warning: `IsJPC' defined but not used coders/jp2.c:272: warning: `ReadJP2Image' defined but not used gmake[1]: *** [coders/magick_libMagick_la-jp2.lo] Error 1 gmake[1]: Leaving directory `/usr/ports/graphics/ImageMagick/work/ImageMagi= ck-6.2.2' gmake: *** [all] Error 2 *** Error code 2 Stop in /usr/ports/graphics/ImageMagick. --=20 Redmond Militante Software Engineer / Medill School of Journalism FreeBSD 5.2.1-RELEASE-p14 #0: Fri Jun 10 16:46:59 CDT 2005 i386 5:30AM up 21 days, 18:08, 4 users, load averages: 0.00, 0.00, 0.00 --5I6of5zJg18YgZEa Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.0 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFCymOd7g+NJl/fSB0RAkBgAJ9kSmJawoDMQkqkTm1Tz596XSVt8wCgs/om W40mm5fieFY7m7FJEfvpX08= =bUD1 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --5I6of5zJg18YgZEa-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jul 5 10:38:53 2005 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Check it out! http://discover.yahoo.com/mobile.html From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jul 5 11:03:27 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9D92016A41C for ; Tue, 5 Jul 2005 11:03:27 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ep_lists@peckham.me.uk) Received: from mail.f7tech.com (host217-37-240-179.in-addr.btopenworld.com [217.37.240.179]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 299F043D45 for ; Tue, 5 Jul 2005 11:03:25 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ep_lists@peckham.me.uk) Received: From [192.168.2.109] (192.168.2.109[192.168.2.109 port:1222]) by mail.f7tech.com Mail essentials (server 2.422) with SMTP id: <21444@mail.f7tech.com> for ; Tue, 5 Jul 2005 12:03:04 +0000 smtpmailfrom Message-ID: <42CA68D0.9000301@peckham.me.uk> Date: Tue, 05 Jul 2005 12:02:40 +0100 From: Edward User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 0.9 (Windows/20041103) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: John Cholewa References: <42C54872.50106@jc-news.com> In-Reply-To: <42C54872.50106@jc-news.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: autoblocking many ssh failed logins from the same IP.... X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 05 Jul 2005 11:03:27 -0000 John Cholewa wrote: > Jun 30 10:36:05 phantom sshd[70478]: Failed password for news from > 212.88.182.121 port 51218 ssh2 > Jun 30 10:36:16 phantom sshd[70500]: Failed password for sshd from > 212.88.182.121 port 51608 ssh2 > Jun 30 10:36:39 phantom sshd[70569]: Failed password for root from > 212.88.182.121 port 52297 ssh2 > > I get the above a lot in my logs (except more of it). Each day, a > couple hundred failed attempts to log in from one or sometimes two IP > addresses shows up. I don't have anything like ipf running, and since > this machine is about fifteen hundred miles away from me, I don't want > to experiment with software firewalling right now. > > That known, is there any way to tell sshd (or some more powerful > daemon) to stop accepting login attempts from a given IP if it tries > and fails to log in too many times in a limited duration (like in the > same minute)? > > I suppose, now that I'm thinking about it, that it'd be best to > actually just read the man pages and figure out how to get sshd to > ignore any attempt to attach from ports other than 22. I mean, why > are other machines trying to ssh in at ports over fifty thousand anyway? > > -- > -JC > http://www.livejournal.com/users/jcholewa/ > > PS: Oh, yeah ... "FreeBSD 4.8-RELEASE #0: Thu Apr 3 10:53:38 GMT > 2003" ; openssh-3.6.1_5 ; openssl-0.9.7d_1 > > > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" I had this on my FreeBSD 4.10 box as well. sshd can be configured to only allow logins for specific users. Edit /etc/sshd_config to add the following AllowUsers You can have multiple AllowUsers entries if you want more than one user to be able to ssh in. This has worked pretty well for me, although I still get an occasional (once every couple of days) failed login attempt on the one valid user name I've set up. I guess I could use a less guessable user id. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jul 5 11:15:42 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 27DDB16A41C for ; Tue, 5 Jul 2005 11:15:42 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from dmitry.mityugov@gmail.com) Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.201]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D926543D46 for ; Tue, 5 Jul 2005 11:15:41 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from dmitry.mityugov@gmail.com) Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 36so875833wra for ; Tue, 05 Jul 2005 04:15:41 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=n8kCdDz1MV+EiSN0uwZVEAl1a9qR+Y+vk7M+ucIADSfQuL4D+o20jV4l0XdKQvrJTiHirPuPoCpsEiXE+nUnN9jweepAk2ZcVMOuGzpTNJUyNlHl3GHRaayM4Nr6bJ3R3Q0aL87Xd0ACBA44a3eqF2TyJ2WlAXlGkMd08QEeptg= Received: by 10.54.29.17 with SMTP id c17mr1916253wrc; Tue, 05 Jul 2005 04:15:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.56.33 with HTTP; Tue, 5 Jul 2005 04:15:41 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Tue, 5 Jul 2005 15:15:41 +0400 From: Dmitry Mityugov To: Roman Kouzmenko In-Reply-To: <0F6AE12F69D1854B9098F77A268ED1302551@hyperion.elance.ch> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline References: <0F6AE12F69D1854B9098F77A268ED1302551@hyperion.elance.ch> Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Running FreeBSD server behind a firewall with nat X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Dmitry Mityugov List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 05 Jul 2005 11:15:42 -0000 On 7/5/05, Roman Kouzmenko wrote: ... > Now I need to put it on the Internet, so that the developers can take > control over it (ssh, ftp). The problem is that at the moment when I > activate one-to-one nat on my hardware firewall for this machine, the > services stop working and behave strangely (for example, if I connect to > the box using ssh, it prompts for the login and nothing else happens, > ftp doesn't work either). If I try to reboot, sendmail doesn't start at > all (it just hangs, so I have to hit ^C to stop the script). ... sendmail probably does not hang but just tries to resolve a name via DNS that apparently is not working. It should continue in a few minutes if you wait that long. What hardware firewall are you using? Is it possible to attach your server to the Internet directly, without using a firewall in the middle? --=20 Dmitry "We live less by imagination than despite it" - Rockwell Kent, "N by E" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jul 5 11:29:50 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DB56216A41C for ; Tue, 5 Jul 2005 11:29:50 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jaapb@kerguelen.org) Received: from societe.kerguelen.org (catv9079.extern.kun.nl [131.174.119.79]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 60FB143D45 for ; Tue, 5 Jul 2005 11:29:49 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jaapb@kerguelen.org) Received: from societe.kerguelen.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by societe.kerguelen.org (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j65BTmQw013299 for ; Tue, 5 Jul 2005 13:29:48 +0200 (CEST) Received: from localhost (jaapb@localhost) by societe.kerguelen.org (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j65BTlNW014573 for ; Tue, 5 Jul 2005 13:29:48 +0200 (CEST) Date: Tue, 5 Jul 2005 13:29:46 +0200 (CEST) From: Jaap Boender To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <42CA62C1.3090307@dial.pipex.com> Message-ID: References: <42CA62C1.3090307@dial.pipex.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Subject: Re: fsck_ext2fs problems X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 05 Jul 2005 11:29:51 -0000 > Are you running ext2fs from Linux? If you are running it from FreeBSD then > try making a symlink in /sbin from fsck_ext2fs to wherever you have e2fsck > and make sure that e2fsck will be available when fsck runs. That almost > certainly means it has to bee on your root partition. (Or just copy it to > /sbin). Yes, copying fsck_ext2fs and e2fsck to /sbin works - I've looked in files/fsck_ext2fs.c in the port and I noticed that it only looks for e2fsck in /sbin - hence the execve error. Thanks for the pointer! I got the impression that Linux doesn't support ufs2 at all, and, well, I just trust FreeBSD's ext2 implementation more than I do Linux's ufs one ;) Yours, Jaap Boender From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jul 5 12:09:52 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 86F6516A41C for ; Tue, 5 Jul 2005 12:09:52 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from gjbailey@gmail.com) Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.198]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4004543D49 for ; Tue, 5 Jul 2005 12:09:52 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from gjbailey@gmail.com) Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id i21so856092wra for ; Tue, 05 Jul 2005 05:09:51 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:mime-version:content-type; b=ppuKSNefa6sJ0RFWOiUMI0ntgYwlZCNzgsQ9oz7e4uV3/EquFDNd9XMllzPMrY8B2qpxckIzUejYn/2o/yz334zm29twGxpfrxfPM29LsJPllsCN+6jVdjL93Qute3KrcbvvHQzt840Z31UvOQQCUvXv6pZIeQlSJVSxqKImOio= Received: by 10.54.107.9 with SMTP id f9mr589797wrc; Tue, 05 Jul 2005 05:09:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.82.12 with HTTP; Tue, 5 Jul 2005 05:09:51 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <48a5f32a050705050979c91efd@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 5 Jul 2005 14:09:51 +0200 From: Gareth Bailey To: freebsd-questions Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: LAN FTP problem with sample PF ruleset X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Gareth Bailey List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 05 Jul 2005 12:09:52 -0000 Hi all,=20 My LAN doesn't have FTP access using the sample PF ruleset from the openbsd= =20 site. My rules are as follows, any help as to where I'm going wrong would be=20 great, thanks! RULESET: # macros int_if =3D "xl0" ext_if =3D "rl0" # tcp_services =3D "{ 22, 113 }" icmp_types =3D "echoreq" priv_nets =3D "{ 127.0.0.0/8 , 0.0.0.0/8,=20 192.168.0.0/16 , 172.16.0.0/12 ,=20 10.0.0.0/8 }" # options set block-policy return set loginterface $ext_if # scrub scrub in all # nat/rdr nat on $ext_if from $int_if:network to any -> ($ext_if) rdr on $int_if proto tcp from any to any port 21 -> 127.0.0.1port 8021 # filter rules block all pass quick on lo0 all block drop in quick on $ext_if from $priv_nets to any block drop out quick on $ext_if from any to $priv_nets # pass in on $ext_if proto tcp from any to $comp3 port 80 flags S/SA=20 synproxy state pass in on $ext_if inet proto tcp from port 20 to ($ext_if) user proxy flag= s=20 S/SA keep state pass in inet proto icmp all icmp-type $icmp_types keep state pass in on $int_if from $int_if:network to any keep state pass out on $int_if from any to $int_if:network keep state pass out on $ext_if proto tcp all modulate state flags S/SA pass out on $ext_if proto { udp, icmp } all keep state From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jul 5 12:27:09 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E3E2C16A41C for ; Tue, 5 Jul 2005 12:27:09 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from tobiastom@gmail.com) Received: from nproxy.gmail.com (nproxy.gmail.com [64.233.182.201]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7913C43D53 for ; Tue, 5 Jul 2005 12:27:09 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from tobiastom@gmail.com) Received: by nproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id g2so211082nfe for ; Tue, 05 Jul 2005 05:27:08 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; b=ggXY6iaK4oddfIlOXdGUONqkACWhtC62pjVrR6baiSaYDqq1x1vPaEbpIy65WE16Z6PiZngndwarNPm7b9VTY6hVEtCFTP2DwiwomJXbl2pchbUWabzCwD1BnsgBC2r04Uxr4gb0AUVp3dCs/EUIdLuJoGnSJ5re51jYJO/OlKw= Received: by 10.48.240.16 with SMTP id n16mr146149nfh; Tue, 05 Jul 2005 05:27:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.48.244.6 with HTTP; Tue, 5 Jul 2005 05:27:07 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Tue, 5 Jul 2005 14:27:07 +0200 From: Tobias Tom To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline Subject: WLAN Access Point without Prism Chip X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Tobias Tom List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 05 Jul 2005 12:27:10 -0000 Hello, I've found inside the manual that currently only Prism Chips are supported to create Access Points in FreeBSD (stable). I that still a valid statement, or is there any unofficial Solution which I could give a try? Thank you for your Help... Regards Tobias From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jul 5 12:41:22 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 313D616A41C for ; Tue, 5 Jul 2005 12:41:22 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ml@t-b-o-h.net) Received: from vjofn.tucs-beachin-obx-house.com (vjofn.tucs-beachin-obx-house.com [204.107.90.128]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E5B6D43D45 for ; Tue, 5 Jul 2005 12:41:21 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ml@t-b-o-h.net) Received: from himinbjorg.tucs-beachin-obx-house.com (ool-44c511d8.dyn.optonline.net [68.197.17.216]) (authenticated bits=128) by vjofn.tucs-beachin-obx-house.com (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id j65CbwXI008725 for ; Tue, 5 Jul 2005 08:37:59 -0400 (EDT) Received: from himinbjorg.tucs-beachin-obx-house.com (localhost.tucs-beachin-obx-house.com [127.0.0.1]) by himinbjorg.tucs-beachin-obx-house.com (8.13.3/8.12.10) with ESMTP id j654wWE0001123 for ; Tue, 5 Jul 2005 00:58:32 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from ml@t-b-o-h.net) Received: (from tbohml@localhost) by himinbjorg.tucs-beachin-obx-house.com (8.13.3/8.13.1/Submit) id j654wVfk001121 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Tue, 5 Jul 2005 00:58:32 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from tbohml) From: Tuc at T-B-O-H Message-Id: <200507050458.j654wVfk001121@himinbjorg.tucs-beachin-obx-house.com> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Tue, 5 Jul 2005 00:58:31 -0400 (EDT) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.5 PL6] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: NFS all of a sudden went wonky X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 05 Jul 2005 12:41:22 -0000 Hi, Without anyone being in/on/around/near an NFS client at 8p tonite, all of a sudden it stopped playing nice with the NFS server... rc.conf : rpcbind_enable="YES" nfs_client_enable="YES" rpc_statd_enable="YES" rpc_lockd_enable="YES" The mount is NAME:/usr/local/tboh /usr/local/tboh nfs rw 0 0 . I'm getting : [udp] NAME:/usr/local/tboh: RPCPROG_NFS: RPC: Port mapper failure - RPC: Unable to send I thought maybe it didn't like the name since DNS isn't up, and statd/lockd isn't up.... I tried to make it NAME:/usr/local/tboh /usr/local/tboh nfs rw 2 2 but it doesn't like that. So I then changed it to IP:/usr/local/tboh /usr/local/tboh nfs rw 0 0 and still getting the [udp] NAME:/usr/local/tboh: RPCPROG_NFS: RPC: Port mapper failure - RPC: Unable to send I checked google, and I don't know where to go on this... Thanks, Tuc From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jul 5 12:46:33 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3276D16A41C for ; Tue, 5 Jul 2005 12:46:33 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from elon@zwelf.in-dsl.de) Received: from zwelf.in-dsl.de (zwelf.in-dsl.de [217.197.85.214]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D17F743D49 for ; Tue, 5 Jul 2005 12:46:32 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from elon@zwelf.in-dsl.de) Received: from elon by zwelf.in-dsl.de with local (Exim 4.20) id 1Dpmoo-0000jW-0e; Tue, 05 Jul 2005 12:46:30 +0000 Date: Tue, 5 Jul 2005 14:46:30 +0200 From: Leon Messner To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20050705124629.GA2695@asterix.bsdserved.de> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, steve lasiter References: <20050704231717.88135.qmail@web33612.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20050704231717.88135.qmail@web33612.mail.mud.yahoo.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i Cc: steve lasiter Subject: Re: accidental overwrite X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 05 Jul 2005 12:46:33 -0000 On Mon, Jul 04, 2005 at 04:17:17PM -0700, steve lasiter wrote: > > My question(s) are: Is there any way to revert back to > the original file if this type of mistake is made? If > not is there anyway to get just that one file without > having to do a complete removal and installation? And > finally, is the only way to NOT do this again is to > use the appropriate flags with cp? Hi, i suppose you could either get the right package version and untar/gunzip it or go into the port directory of mysql and do a "make extract" which creates the subdir "work" in which you find the ports files and dirs but pay attention to the right port version here as well. HTH, Leon -- gnupg key ID: 9B820836 & Fingerprint: 6081 8F41 8FEC 0D69 DB98 F014 0FD4 B47D 9B82 0836 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jul 5 12:47:23 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9703616A41C for ; Tue, 5 Jul 2005 12:47:23 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from efrenba@dhl.co.cu) Received: from dhl.co.cu (DHLMAIL.dhl.co.cu [200.55.156.130]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 99E5243D46 for ; Tue, 5 Jul 2005 12:47:17 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from efrenba@dhl.co.cu) Received: from [127.0.0.1] by dhl.co.cu (MDaemon.PRO.v8.0.2.R) with ESMTP id md50000014904.msg for ; Tue, 05 Jul 2005 08:46:29 -0500 Message-ID: <42CA8139.9040701@dhl.co.cu> Date: Tue, 05 Jul 2005 08:46:49 -0400 From: Efren Bravo User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.2 (Windows/20050317) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Authenticated-Sender: efrenba@dhl.co.cu X-Spam-Processed: dhl.co.cu, Tue, 05 Jul 2005 08:46:29 -0500 (not processed: message from valid local sender) X-Lookup-Warning: HELO/EHLO lookup on 127.0.0.1 does not match 199.41.113.98 X-MDRemoteIP: 199.41.113.98 X-Return-Path: efrenba@dhl.co.cu X-MDaemon-Deliver-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-MDAV-Processed: dhl.co.cu, Tue, 05 Jul 2005 08:46:33 -0500 Subject: Some doubts to start X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 05 Jul 2005 12:47:23 -0000 Hello list, How you will realize I'm new in unix. I've been reading about freeBSD and I wish to know what is the meaning of: 1-Font Server. 2-NFS Server and NFS Server 3-Ports From freeBSD can I start a graphical environment like KDE and GNome. Which of them would be recommended? Best regards From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jul 5 12:56:37 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 29E9D16A41C for ; Tue, 5 Jul 2005 12:56:37 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jdyke@azimapower.com) Received: from extgw01.msys.intellispace.net (extgw01.msys.intellispace.net [160.79.150.226]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F0DA543D46 for ; Tue, 5 Jul 2005 12:56:36 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jdyke@azimapower.com) Received: from malone.intellispace.net (malone.intellispace.net [160.79.145.141]) by extgw01.msys.intellispace.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id ABFD5C5D26 for ; Tue, 5 Jul 2005 08:56:21 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [192.168.2.45] (66.9.108.98) by malone.intellispace.net (5.1.053) id 42C690CE000F7721 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Tue, 5 Jul 2005 08:55:09 -0400 Message-ID: <42CA8375.7070205@azimapower.com> Date: Tue, 05 Jul 2005 12:56:21 +0000 From: jdyke Organization: Azima Inc. User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (Windows/20041206) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <42C97198.1070007@azimapower.com> In-Reply-To: <42C97198.1070007@azimapower.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: rebuild of a jail uses old DESTDIR X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: jdyke@azimapower.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 05 Jul 2005 12:56:37 -0000 > i had built a jail a few weeks ago as a learning expierence, specifying > a DESTDIR of /usr/jail/ssh for make world, i don't really want it to > reside there long term and want to build it with less features enabled > in make.conf. So now I'm trying to build another jail in another > location and `make world DESTDIR=/path/to/new/dir` fails with > -------------------------------------------------------------- > >>> Building an up-to-date make(1) > -------------------------------------------------------------- > make: don't know how to make /usr/jail/ssh/usr/lib/libc.a. Stop > > > I've run a make clean and make cleandir and tried to re run without > success. i'm currently running a grep to look for the old path in any > file on the whole system, /etc/ and /usr similar greps came up empty. > > How can i make the system forget about the old DESTDIR? Should i just > delete all of /usr/src and cvsup? Hate to reply to my own post...but i've completely removed /usr/src and cvsup'd in the hopes this would clear, but does not. I also have rebooted the machine, cause i'm getting desperate. Is there anyway to clear the old DESTDIR out of there. Its at the point where i can not even rebuild the jail in the old spot, i get the same error as above. I can not run `make buildworld` without supplying a DESTDIR, so this is going to hit home again then next time it try to update. If there is a better list to post this on, i'd be glad to move it. Any help appreciated, thanks! jd 5.4-RELEASE > > thanks for any assistance > jd From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jul 5 12:58:38 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1E3D716A41C for ; Tue, 5 Jul 2005 12:58:38 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from gustavodn@gmail.com) Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.199]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D607743D46 for ; Tue, 5 Jul 2005 12:58:37 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from gustavodn@gmail.com) Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id i4so914372wra for ; Tue, 05 Jul 2005 05:58:37 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=oQoPKTyLbDyb9Hpfy3GXNZnqy8HWToCsfXh3Aq4TIRRHxGuELNWUjQZE+doE0J/pd6i9CPe9hUOgIDh41zhZLOah1hO65WGWBsa3pvLGl5z8CQ4w+D5alL7qZahBXQwGTdg+uu3J6hThihGjm8L/csyg6zQrYC9/3PWTFEik450= Received: by 10.54.45.21 with SMTP id s21mr4316059wrs; Tue, 05 Jul 2005 05:58:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.34.25 with HTTP; Tue, 5 Jul 2005 05:58:37 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <50af0a2605070505585fb79284@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 5 Jul 2005 09:58:37 -0300 From: Gustavo De Nardin To: Lista de perguntas sobre FreeBSD In-Reply-To: <200507042252.j64MqleE088318@unsane.co.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline References: <200507042252.j64MqleE088318@unsane.co.uk> Subject: Re: Using unix mail with maildir format X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: x List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 05 Jul 2005 12:58:38 -0000 On 04/07/05, Vince wrote: > Mave a look at the nail port "mail/nail" > It can/does have a mail type interface and reads maildir. Thanks, that's the MUA I was looking for for a long while. :] --=20 (nil) From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jul 5 13:01:46 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8F95416A41C for ; Tue, 5 Jul 2005 13:01:46 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from dopplecoder@gmail.com) Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.196]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5634243D4C for ; Tue, 5 Jul 2005 13:01:46 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from dopplecoder@gmail.com) Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id z6so463602nzd for ; Tue, 05 Jul 2005 06:01:46 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=f/eicoCoy6x87mgPEI9EKp2QUxirMccS8U58WX80Roh1UBPqEM40cB2m5Osn1hRS3d1NybWGYT/e+AMQDr/YL4t+3WJNHLoW5zliGwJyc006ILaXgjk9wWCkuU/3uEekLsYqzIPUxL93yj7Nak5gNnfP32wUMUZcWdylGXrhdUQ= Received: by 10.36.50.18 with SMTP id x18mr1407475nzx; Tue, 05 Jul 2005 05:55:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.86.5 with HTTP; Tue, 5 Jul 2005 05:55:44 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <45d750d205070505556cc552b0@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 5 Jul 2005 08:55:44 -0400 From: Aaron Peterson To: Efren Bravo In-Reply-To: <42CA8139.9040701@dhl.co.cu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline References: <42CA8139.9040701@dhl.co.cu> Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Some doubts to start X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Aaron Peterson List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 05 Jul 2005 13:01:46 -0000 On 7/5/05, Efren Bravo wrote: > Hello list, >=20 > How you will realize I'm new in unix. I've been reading about freeBSD > and I wish to know what is the meaning of: >=20 > 1-Font Server. > 2-NFS Server and NFS Server > 3-Ports >=20 > From freeBSD can I start a graphical environment like KDE and GNome. > Which of them would be recommended? >=20 > Best regards A font server is what it sounds like. It is a daemon that runs in a centralized location where you can install fonts and serve them out to multiple networked clients. A NFS server is a file server similar to MS Windows file sharing. NFS is in common use on Unix. Ports are a collection of 3rd party packages that you can compile and install via pre-written scripts on BSD. Generally you download a "ports tree" which is a directory tree full of these scripts. You find the one you want to install, cd to it's directory and type something like "make && make install" and it is downloaded compiled and installed in an automated fashion. There is more information on all of these things in the online FreeBSD handbook found here: http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/index.html Enjoy! From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jul 5 13:02:04 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 29E1F16A41F for ; Tue, 5 Jul 2005 13:02:04 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from elon@zwelf.in-dsl.de) Received: from zwelf.in-dsl.de (zwelf.in-dsl.de [217.197.85.214]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7C42F43D49 for ; Tue, 5 Jul 2005 13:02:03 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from elon@zwelf.in-dsl.de) Received: from elon by zwelf.in-dsl.de with local (Exim 4.20) id 1Dpn3k-0000kD-8G; Tue, 05 Jul 2005 13:01:56 +0000 Date: Tue, 5 Jul 2005 15:01:56 +0200 From: Leon Messner To: freebsd-questions Message-ID: <20050705130156.GB2695@asterix.bsdserved.de> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-questions , dick hoogendijk References: <200507042252.j64MqleE088318@unsane.co.uk> <20050705060857.GA560@pooh.nagual.st> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20050705060857.GA560@pooh.nagual.st> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i Cc: Subject: Re: Using unix mail with maildir format X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 05 Jul 2005 13:02:04 -0000 On Tue, Jul 05, 2005 at 08:08:57AM +0200, dick hoogendijk wrote: > > What are the pro's and cons for/against both mail standards? > Won't the maildir format with all this separate mails not be more > difficult to maintain? > > I have to say that running courier/maildir never gave problems 'till now > but having the chooce I very much want some insights/advice on this > matter. Some reading points are OK too ;-) Hi, some reading points ;-) : http://www.courier-mta.org/mbox-vs-maildir/ http://cr.yp.to/proto/maildir.html http://wiki.mutt.org/index.cgi?MuttFaq/Maildir This is all very pro maildir but couldn't find any pro mbox now. Also have a look at the shares maildir feature if using imap with multiple users accessing one mail dump. Greets Leon -- gnupg key ID: 9B820836 & Fingerprint: 6081 8F41 8FEC 0D69 DB98 F014 0FD4 B47D 9B82 0836 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jul 5 13:09:45 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4B75916A41C for ; Tue, 5 Jul 2005 13:09:45 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from dmitry.mityugov@gmail.com) Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.207]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F3F2543D45 for ; Tue, 5 Jul 2005 13:09:42 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from dmitry.mityugov@gmail.com) Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id i4so916393wra for ; Tue, 05 Jul 2005 06:09:42 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=dzv0gKkoJB86yCx0Mii0IPU8dSN30xPLWC7dZyng4HBF2Ii1XlTiGlreDpSAP9cr+qZz/pY3kin4yrAcRvq5+1iqWBlseFuUelCdJ3hBXrTNKw49ASmac3kIUkLzJzpcgMyu/gtta6pb1ByEV2YaktITXBSzS1uf5QHnZflGvwI= Received: by 10.54.34.16 with SMTP id h16mr4332151wrh; Tue, 05 Jul 2005 06:09:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.56.33 with HTTP; Tue, 5 Jul 2005 06:09:41 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Tue, 5 Jul 2005 17:09:41 +0400 From: Dmitry Mityugov To: Efren Bravo In-Reply-To: <42CA8139.9040701@dhl.co.cu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline References: <42CA8139.9040701@dhl.co.cu> Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Some doubts to start X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Dmitry Mityugov List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 05 Jul 2005 13:09:45 -0000 On 7/5/05, Efren Bravo wrote: ... > From freeBSD can I start a graphical environment like KDE and GNome. > Which of them would be recommended? In FreeBSD 5.4, Gnome contains more localization features than KDE, at least for my native language. For example in Gnome I can tell it to display menus etc in my language whereas in KDE I can't. --=20 Dmitry "We live less by imagination than despite it" - Rockwell Kent, "N by E" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jul 5 13:17:30 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3A17F16A41C for ; Tue, 5 Jul 2005 13:17:30 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from bt@ccgis.de) Received: from vogon.ccgis.de (vogon.ccgis.de [212.79.172.106]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4FCEE43D48 for ; Tue, 5 Jul 2005 13:17:29 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from bt@ccgis.de) Received: from amavis by vogon.ccgis.de with virus-scanned (Exim 3.36 #1 (Debian)) id 1DpnbO-0004ye-00 for ; Tue, 05 Jul 2005 15:36:42 +0200 Received: from center.sz ([192.168.1.20] helo=center.shared) by vogon.ccgis.de with esmtp (Exim 3.36 #1 (Debian)) id 1DpnbJ-0004yV-00 for ; Tue, 05 Jul 2005 15:36:37 +0200 Received: from [192.168.2.66] (helo=[192.168.2.66]) by center.shared with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1DpnIO-0000Ow-Am for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Tue, 05 Jul 2005 15:17:04 +0200 Message-ID: <42CA88EF.3070100@ccgis.de> Date: Tue, 05 Jul 2005 15:19:43 +0200 From: Benjamin Thelen User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.2 (Windows/20050317) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <42C3F848.4030504@ccgis.de> <20050701221926.GA933@blackguy> In-Reply-To: <20050701221926.GA933@blackguy> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Scanned-By: AMaViS-ng at Geo-Consortium Bonn Subject: Re: G550 dual-head problems X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 05 Jul 2005 13:17:30 -0000 Eric Ekong wrote: > Here is my working config, before I upgraded to the parhelia... > > attached... > > Eric > * Benjamin Thelen [050630 09:48]: > >>Hi List, >> >>I really would appreciate your help, because I ran out of ideas! >> >>Basically dual-head works, but only with a little workaround: >>If I start X, with the xorg.conf I attached, the second monitor simply >>isn't activated, although the desktop is expanded to the second monitor! >>I first have to comment out "Screen 0" and "Screen 1" within both >>'Section "Device"' for Card0 and Card1. If I then start X, the second >>monitor is activated in cloning mode. After "reaktivating" the "Screen >>0" and "Screen 1" entries, which I just have commented out, dual-head works. >> >>Do you have an idea what is wrong in my xorg.conf? I "played" around for >>example with commenting out "Xinerama", removing the second 'Section >>"Device"' for Card1, but without success. >> >> >>Kind Regards, >>Benjamin > > >>Section "ServerLayout" >> Identifier "Dual-Monitor" >> Screen 0 "Screen0" >> Screen 1 "Screen1" RightOf "Screen0" >> InputDevice "Mouse0" "CorePointer" >> InputDevice "Keyboard0" "CoreKeyboard" >># Option "Clone" "off" >>EndSection >> >> >>Section "ServerFlags" >> Option "Xinerama" "true" >>EndSection >> >> >>Section "Files" >> RgbPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/rgb" >> ModulePath "/usr/X11R6/lib/modules" >> FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/misc/" >> FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/TTF/" >> #FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/Type1/" >> #FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/CID/" >> FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi/" >> FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi/" >> #FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/Speedo/" >> FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/URW/" >> FontPath "/usr/local/share/fonts/" >> FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/" >> #FontPath "/usr/local/share/fonts/override/" >> FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/bitstream-vera/" >> #FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/cyrillic/" >> #FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/latin2/" >> #FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/local/" >> #FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/PEX/" >> FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/TrueType/" >> #FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/latin2/100dpi/" >> #FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/latin2/75dpi/" >>EndSection >> >>Section "Module" >> Load "extmod" >> Load "glx" >> #Load "dri" >> Load "dbe" >> Load "record" >> Load "xtrap" >> Load "type1" >> Load "freetype" >> #Load "speedo" >>EndSection >> >>Section "InputDevice" >> Identifier "Keyboard0" >> Driver "kbd" >> Option "XkbModel" "pc105" >> Option "XkbLayout" "de" >> Option "XkbVariant" "nodeadkeys" >>EndSection >> >>Section "InputDevice" >> Identifier "Mouse0" >> Driver "mouse" >> Option "Protocol" "auto" >> Option "Device" "/dev/sysmouse" >> Option "ZAxisMapping" "4 5" >>EndSection >> >> >>Section "Monitor" >> ##DisplaySize 400 300 # mm >> #Identifier "Monitor0" >> #VendorName "IVM" >> #ModelName "2140" >> Option "DPMS" >> Identifier "Monitor0" >> VendorName "IIyama" >> ModelName "A201HT" >> HorizSync 30-130 >> VertRefresh 50-160 >>EndSection >> >>Section "Monitor" >> Identifier "Monitor1" >> VendorName "IIyama" >> ModelName "A201HT" >> HorizSync 30-130 >> VertRefresh 50-160 >> Option "DPMS" >>EndSection >> >>Section "Device" >> ### Available Driver options are:- >> ### Values: : integer, : float, : "True"/"False", >> ### : "String", : " Hz/kHz/MHz" >> ### [arg]: arg optional >> #Option "SWcursor" # [] >> #Option "HWcursor" # [] >> #Option "PciRetry" # [] >> #Option "SyncOnGreen" # [] >> #Option "NoAccel" # [] >> #Option "ShowCache" # [] >> #Option "Overlay" # [] >> #Option "MGASDRAM" # [] >> #Option "ShadowFB" # [] >> #Option "UseFBDev" # [] >> #Option "ColorKey" # >> #Option "SetMclk" # >> #Option "OverclockMem" # [] >> #Option "VideoKey" # >> #Option "Rotate" # [] >> #Option "TexturedVideo" # [] >> #Option "Crtc2Half" # [] >> #Option "Crtc2Ram" # >> #Option "Int10" # [] >> #Option "AGPMode" # >> #Option "AGPSize" # >> #Option "DigitalScreen1" # [] >> #Option "DigitalScreen2" # [] >> #Option "TV" # [] >> #Option "TVStandard" # [] >> #Option "CableType" # [] >> #Option "NoHal" # [] >> #Option "SwappedHead" # [] >> #Option "DRI" # [] >> #Option "MergedFB" # [] >> #Option "Monitor2HSync" 30-130# [] >> #Option "Monitor2VRefresh" 50-160# [] >> #Option "Monitor2Position" right# [] >> #Option "MetaModes" # [] >> Identifier "Card0" >> Driver "mga" >> VendorName "Matrox Graphics, Inc." >> BoardName "MGA G550 AGP" >> BusID "PCI:1:0:0" >> Screen 0 >>EndSection >> >>Section "Device" >> Identifier "Card1" >> Driver "mga" >> VendorName "Matrox Graphics, Inc." >> BoardName "MGA G550 AGP" >> BusID "PCI:1:0:0" >> Screen 1 >>EndSection >> >> >>Section "Screen" >> Identifier "Screen0" >> Device "Card0" >> Monitor "Monitor0" >> DefaultDepth 16 >> Subsection "Display" >> Depth 8 >> Modes "640x480" "800x600" "1024x768" "1280x1024" >> ViewPort 0 0 >> EndSubsection >> Subsection "Display" >> Depth 16 >> Modes "1280x1024" "1024x768" "800x600" "640x480" >> ViewPort 0 0 >> EndSubsection >> Subsection "Display" >> Depth 24 >> Modes "640x480" "800x600" "1024x768" "1280x1024" >> ViewPort 0 0 >> EndSubsection >>EndSection >> >>Section "Screen" >> Identifier "Screen1" >> Device "Card1" >> Monitor "Monitor1" >> DefaultDepth 16 >> Subsection "Display" >> Depth 8 >> Modes "640x480" "800x600" "1024x768" "1280x1024" >> ViewPort 0 0 >> EndSubsection >> Subsection "Display" >> Depth 16 >> Modes "1280x1024" "1024x768" "800x600" "640x480" >> ViewPort 0 0 >> EndSubsection >> Subsection "Display" >> Depth 24 >> Modes "640x480" "800x600" "1024x768" "1280x1024" >> ViewPort 0 0 >> EndSubsection >>EndSection >> > > >>_______________________________________________ >>freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list >>http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions >>To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > Section "ServerLayout" > Identifier "Layout0" > Screen 0 "Screen 0" 0 0 > Screen "Screen 1" LeftOf "Screen 0" > InputDevice "Microsoft_Natural" "CoreKeyboard" > InputDevice "Microsoft Intellimouse Explorer" "CorePointer" > Option "Xinerama" > EndSection > > Section "Files" > FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/misc" > FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/Type1" > FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi" > FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi" > FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi/:unscaled" > FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi/:unscaled" > FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/cyrillic" > FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/URW" > FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/freefont" > FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/misc" > FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/TrueType" > FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/TTF" > EndSection > > Section "Module" > Load "xie" > Load "pex5" > Load "glx" > Load "dri" > Load "dbe" > Load "record" > Load "extmod" > Load "type1" > Load "freetype" > Load "ddc" > Load "GLcore" > Load "vbe" > Load "xie" > Load "bitmap" > Load "int10" > EndSection > > Section "InputDevice" > Identifier "Microsoft Intellimouse Explorer" > Driver "mouse" > Option "Protocol" "Auto" > Option "Device" "/dev/sysmouse" > Option "Buttons" "5" > Option "ZAxisMapping" "4 5" > Option "Resolution" "1600" > Option "CursorShadow" "True" > EndSection > > Section "InputDevice" > Identifier "Microsoft_Natural" > Driver "keyboard" > Option "AutoRepeat" "500 30" > Option "XkbModel" "pc105" > Option "XkbLayout" "us" > Option "XkbRules" "xfree86" > EndSection > > Section "Monitor" > Identifier "Monitor0" > VendorName "ViewSonic 17GA-2" > ModelName "ViewSonic" > HorizSync 30.0 - 69.0 > VertRefresh 50.0 - 160.0 > Option "dpms" > EndSection > > Section "Monitor" > Identifier "Monitor1" > VendorName "ViewSonic 17GA-2" > ModelName "ViewSonic" > HorizSync 30.0 - 69.0 > VertRefresh 50.0 - 160.0 > Option "dpms" > EndSection > > Section "Device" > Identifier "G550_0" > Driver "mga" > VideoRam 32768 > Option "SWcursor" "True" > Option "HWcursor" "False" > Option "AGPMode" "4" > Option "DRI" "True" > BusID "PCI:2:0:0" > Option "DPMS" "on" > Screen 0 > EndSection > > Section "Device" > Identifier "G550_1" > Driver "mga" > VideoRam 32768 > Option "SWcursor" "True" > Option "HWcursor" "False" > Option "AGPMode" "4" > Option "DRI" "True" > BusID "PCI:2:0:0" > Option "DPMS" "on" > Screen 1 > EndSection > > Section "Screen" > Identifier "Screen 0" > Device "G550_0" > Monitor "monitor0" > DefaultDepth 24 > SubSection "Display" > Depth 8 > Modes "1280x1024" "1024x768" "800x600" "640x480" > EndSubSection > SubSection "Display" > Depth 16 > Modes "1280x1024" "1024x768" "800x600" "640x480" > EndSubSection > SubSection "Display" > Depth 24 > Modes "1280x1024" "1024x768" "800x600" "640x480" > EndSubSection > EndSection > > Section "Screen" > Identifier "Screen 1" > Device "G550_1" > Monitor "monitor1" > DefaultDepth 24 > SubSection "Display" > Depth 8 > Modes "1280x1024" "1024x768" "800x600" "640x480" > EndSubSection > SubSection "Display" > Depth 16 > Modes "1280x1024" "1024x768" "800x600" "640x480" > EndSubSection > SubSection "Display" > Depth 24 > Modes "1280x1024" "1024x768" "800x600" "640x480" > EndSubSection > EndSection > > Section "DRI" > # Group 438 > Mode 0666 > EndSection > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" Hi Eric, chris & list, thank you for sending your xorg.conf files to me! I compared those, the example-files which came with the matrox-Linux driver and eric, your P650 xorg.conf file to my xorg.conf file, but I really couldn't find any striking difference. Of course, I tried various things, but still I have to aktivate the second monitor, by first starting in clone mode. After I have aktivated the second monitor, I can "fall back" to dual view, which then works until reboot. I even tried with acpi disabled, because I had some strange behavior with aktivating an external monitor attached to an IBM-Notebook as long as I start with acpi enabled - I couldn't switch to the external monitor. But in this case acpi has no effect on dual view. Please have a look at my xorg.conf, which I had attached to my first posting. Should I use the Linux driver? What is the mga-modul for, which I can load by typing kldload mga? But honestly this modul has to effect on the dual view. What is it about the mga_hal modul which can't be found? Anyone any idea? Thanks, Ben From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jul 5 01:03:49 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: questions@FreeBSD.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9D1E716A41C for ; Tue, 5 Jul 2005 01:03:49 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from km4999@hotmail.com) Received: from hotmail.com (bay24-f5.bay24.hotmail.com [64.4.18.55]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8A05643D48 for ; Tue, 5 Jul 2005 01:03:49 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from km4999@hotmail.com) Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Mon, 4 Jul 2005 18:03:49 -0700 Message-ID: Received: from 83.244.67.236 by by24fd.bay24.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Tue, 05 Jul 2005 01:03:48 GMT X-Originating-IP: [83.244.67.236] X-Originating-Email: [km4999@hotmail.com] X-Sender: km4999@hotmail.com From: "Fady Shar" To: questions@FreeBSD.org Date: Tue, 05 Jul 2005 05:03:48 +0400 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 05 Jul 2005 01:03:49.0383 (UTC) FILETIME=[670BB970:01C580FD] X-Mailman-Approved-At: Tue, 05 Jul 2005 13:29:35 +0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format="flowed" X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: Subject: How to prepare a boot CDROM X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 05 Jul 2005 01:03:49 -0000 hi I read the floppy prepare ... but i don't have floppy disk so, i want to know how to prepare a bootable CDROM .. i am using Nero Burning software thanx _________________________________________________________________ Express yourself instantly with MSN Messenger! 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References 1. http://g.msn.com/8HMBEN/2743??PS=47575 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jul 5 05:52:29 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 956B016A41C for ; Tue, 5 Jul 2005 05:52:29 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ws@au.dyndns.ws) Received: from smtp1.adl2.internode.on.net (smtp1.adl2.internode.on.net [203.16.214.181]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0E55743D55 for ; Tue, 5 Jul 2005 05:52:28 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ws@au.dyndns.ws) Received: from lillith-iv.ovirt.dyndns.ws (ppp103-111.static.internode.on.net [150.101.103.111]) by smtp1.adl2.internode.on.net (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id j655q6R4059576; Tue, 5 Jul 2005 15:22:08 +0930 (CST) X-Envelope-From: ws@au.dyndns.ws X-Envelope-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from [192.168.1.194] ([192.168.1.194]) by lillith-iv.ovirt.dyndns.ws (8.13.3/8.13.3) with ESMTP id j655pjnY057446; Tue, 5 Jul 2005 15:21:45 +0930 (CST) (envelope-from ws@au.dyndns.ws) From: Wayne Sierke To: Nikolas Britton In-Reply-To: References: <42C03E86.6090509@calarts.edu> Content-Type: text/plain Date: Tue, 05 Jul 2005 15:21:45 +0930 Message-Id: <1120542705.57575.20.camel@au.dyndns.ws> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.2.2 FreeBSD GNOME Team Port Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.51 on 192.168.1.142 X-Scanned-By: SpamAssassin 3.000003(2005-04-27) X-Scanned-By: F-Prot X-Scanned-By: ClamAV X-Spam-Score: -2.82 () ALL_TRUSTED X-Mailman-Approved-At: Tue, 05 Jul 2005 13:29:35 +0000 Cc: Sean Murphy , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Questions about packages and ports X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 05 Jul 2005 05:52:29 -0000 On Mon, 2005-06-27 at 13:25 -0500, Nikolas Britton wrote: > On a similar note can someone remind me how to set the remote package > site for pkg_add and portupgrade -P? I remember it had something to do > with setenv but don't remember the variable it uses and I've never > used the portupgrade -P option before. It requires a bit of rtfm it seems... $ man -P /bin/cat pkg_add | grep --context=2 -- "-r" what you are doing! -r Use the remote fetching feature. This will determine the appro- priate objformat and release and then fetch and install the pack- age. -- The environment variable PACKAGEROOT specifies an alternate location for pkg_add to fetch from. The fetch URL is built using this environment variable and the automatic directory logic that pkg_add uses when the -r option is invoked. An example setting would be "ftp://ftp3.FreeBSD.org". The environment variable PACKAGESITE specifies an alternate location for pkg_add to fetch from. This variable subverts the automatic directory logic that pkg_add uses when the -r option is invoked. Thus it should be a complete URL to the remote package file(s). $ ( - By the way, if anyone knows a simpler way of achieving that man/grep combination, please tell!) I couldn't find any documented reference as to where to put the env setting, so I presume I must have either stumbled upon it while browsing pkgtools.conf or seen it in an answer here or on a web page somewhere... $ grep --context=2 PACKAGEROOT /usr/local/etc/pkgtools.conf # Equivalent to: # sprintf('%s/pub/FreeBSD/ports/%s/packages-%s/', # root || ENV['PACKAGEROOT'] || 'ftp://ftp.FreeBSD.org', # OS_PLATFORM, OS_PKGBRANCH) # -- # ENV['PKG_FETCH'] = "curl '%s' -o '%s'" # ENV['PKG_FETCH'] = 'false' # never fetch packages from a remote site # ENV['PACKAGEROOT'] = 'ftp://ftpN.XX.FreeBSD.org' ENV['PORTSDIR'] ||= '/usr/ports' ENV['PACKAGES'] ||= ENV['PORTSDIR'] + '/packages' ENV['PKG_PATH'] ||= ENV['PACKAGES'] + '/All' # 20040210 ws - added PACKAGEROOT ENV['PACKAGEROOT'] = 'ftp://ftp.au.FreeBSD.org' # SANITY_CHECK: boolean (default: true) $ You probably worked it out already but I thought this one was worthwhile to toss in to the archives, and perhaps prompt someone to contemplate a revision for the handbook. hth Wayne From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jul 5 08:29:43 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3131216A41C for ; Tue, 5 Jul 2005 08:29:43 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from tobiastom@gmail.com) Received: from nproxy.gmail.com (nproxy.gmail.com [64.233.182.194]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 985D843D48 for ; Tue, 5 Jul 2005 08:29:42 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from tobiastom@gmail.com) Received: by nproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id g2so194893nfe for ; Tue, 05 Jul 2005 01:29:41 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=OfJ2a2TJELxSjLqLgFc0zEawSNmz8oOYK0jqOBmzc1xSonYQzW4IXr8NHhDbSjM9h5bRt6M9R/cyOIZHquBzY39hqfgWr1ESduqHsSMe64Zfd8qm8WafS2QHJvF/R8E/7ktDxad1HBV8gGAwkPmRn/oNP06+KgDDk86J1GACKfk= Received: by 10.48.240.7 with SMTP id n7mr134975nfh; Tue, 05 Jul 2005 01:29:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.48.244.6 with HTTP; Tue, 5 Jul 2005 01:29:41 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Tue, 5 Jul 2005 10:29:41 +0200 From: Tobias Tom To: Josh Ockert In-Reply-To: <126eac4805070408273c0de8ce@mail.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline References: <200507031500.35157.bryan.maynard@reallm.com> <126eac4805070408273c0de8ce@mail.gmail.com> X-Mailman-Approved-At: Tue, 05 Jul 2005 13:29:35 +0000 Cc: Bryan Maynard , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD 5.4 ndis support X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Tobias Tom List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 05 Jul 2005 08:29:43 -0000 > Note: I've never done NDIS before as I have a Cisco PCM-352 which is > supported under FreeBSD. Lucky man! ;o) > However, I'll offer my thoughts in case they help: a) I'm not so sure > building anything into the kernel would help as opposed to it being a > module. I generally wait til I've tested the module and found that it > works well before I compile it into the kernel, and only then for > speed purposes. b) If you have a MODULES_OVERRIDE in your kernel > config, it won't build/install any modules you don't list there. Try > commenting out MODULES_OVERRIDE in your kernel config if it's there > and rebuild your kernel. If that works, problem solved. Thanks for your Feedback. I'll try it when someone can tell me that I can use my card as Access Point (see other mail I send), otherwise I can throw this NDIS Stuff back into Trash ... When the card cannot do what I want it to di, I really don't need Windows Drivers on my FreeBSD Box ;o) Thank you anyway!=20 Regards Tobias From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jul 5 10:41:44 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C4FF016A41C for ; Tue, 5 Jul 2005 10:41:44 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: from aiolos.otenet.gr (aiolos.otenet.gr [195.170.0.93]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2881043D55 for ; Tue, 5 Jul 2005 10:41:43 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: from beatrix.daedalusnetworks.priv (aris.bedc.ondsl.gr [62.103.39.226]) by aiolos.otenet.gr (8.13.4/8.13.4/Debian-1) with SMTP id j65AfcYV000717; Tue, 5 Jul 2005 13:41:38 +0300 Received: from beatrix.daedalusnetworks.priv (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by beatrix.daedalusnetworks.priv (8.13.3+Sun/8.13.3) with ESMTP id j65Afcqp006233; Tue, 5 Jul 2005 13:41:38 +0300 (EEST) Received: (from keramida@localhost) by beatrix.daedalusnetworks.priv (8.13.3+Sun/8.13.3/Submit) id j65Afbar006232; Tue, 5 Jul 2005 13:41:37 +0300 (EEST) X-Authentication-Warning: beatrix.daedalusnetworks.priv: keramida set sender to keramida@ceid.upatras.gr using -f Date: Tue, 5 Jul 2005 13:41:37 +0300 From: Giorgos Keramidas To: Alex Zbyslaw Message-ID: <20050705104137.GA6220@beatrix.daedalusnetworks.priv> References: <42CA62C1.3090307@dial.pipex.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <42CA62C1.3090307@dial.pipex.com> X-Mailman-Approved-At: Tue, 05 Jul 2005 13:29:35 +0000 Cc: Jaap Boender , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: fsck_ext2fs problems X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 05 Jul 2005 10:41:44 -0000 On 2005-07-05 11:36, Alex Zbyslaw wrote: >Jaap Boender wrote: >> I'd like to share a filesystem on the same computer between FreeBSD >> and Linux, and as it seems that FreeBSD supports ext2 better than >> Linux does ufs(2), I've created an ext2 filesystem. Mounting & >> accessing Works fine, except when I try to fsck it, fsck_ext2fs fails >> with the error message: "execve: No such file or directory". When I >> use the e2fsck program, however, I can fsck the filesystem just fine. >> Unfortunately, at boot time, FreeBSD wants to use fsck_ext2fs... >> >> A quick search on the Internet didn't show any solutions, so - does >> anybody here know what I can do to get rid of the error message? > > Does Linux maybe support UFS(1) better than UFS(2)? Not really. The ufs support of Linux needs a bit of patching to support all the block/fragment sizes that FreeBSD can use. I had to patch the kernel with the diff listed here: http://lists.hellug.gr/pipermail/linux-greek-users/2004-November/101772.html to force the Linux kernel to accept perfectly valid UFS1 partitions. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jul 5 13:30:49 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 73AC016A41C for ; Tue, 5 Jul 2005 13:30:49 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from fbsd_user@a1poweruser.com) Received: from mta9.adelphia.net (mta9.adelphia.net [68.168.78.199]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2B6C943D48 for ; Tue, 5 Jul 2005 13:30:46 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from fbsd_user@a1poweruser.com) Received: from barbish ([69.172.31.81]) by mta9.adelphia.net (InterMail vM.6.01.04.01 201-2131-118-101-20041129) with SMTP id <20050705133045.JQFF29002.mta9.adelphia.net@barbish>; Tue, 5 Jul 2005 09:30:45 -0400 From: "fbsd_user" To: "Gareth Bailey" , "freebsd-questions" Date: Tue, 5 Jul 2005 09:30:41 -0400 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.6604 (9.0.2911.0) In-Reply-To: <48a5f32a050705050979c91efd@mail.gmail.com> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1409 Importance: Normal Cc: Subject: RE: LAN FTP problem with sample PF ruleset X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: fbsd_user@a1poweruser.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 05 Jul 2005 13:30:49 -0000 A sample means they expect you to change it before using. Do you have FTP working without a firewall in the way??? You have to get that working first. Do you really have a private LAN behind your firewall box? The rules you listed will not even load because of syntax errors. Why worry about getting FTP to pass through PF when you don't even have any rules loaded into pf yet. You really need to read the firewall section of the handbook for background understanding. Then read the pf man pages. It's all explained in the man pages. -----Original Message----- From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org [mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]On Behalf Of Gareth Bailey Sent: Tuesday, July 05, 2005 8:10 AM To: freebsd-questions Subject: LAN FTP problem with sample PF ruleset Hi all, My LAN doesn't have FTP access using the sample PF ruleset from the openbsd site. My rules are as follows, any help as to where I'm going wrong would be great, thanks! RULESET: # macros int_if = "xl0" ext_if = "rl0" # tcp_services = "{ 22, 113 }" icmp_types = "echoreq" priv_nets = "{ 127.0.0.0/8 , 0.0.0.0/8, 192.168.0.0/16 , 172.16.0.0/12 , 10.0.0.0/8 }" # options set block-policy return set loginterface $ext_if # scrub scrub in all # nat/rdr nat on $ext_if from $int_if:network to any -> ($ext_if) rdr on $int_if proto tcp from any to any port 21 -> 127.0.0.1port 8021 # filter rules block all pass quick on lo0 all block drop in quick on $ext_if from $priv_nets to any block drop out quick on $ext_if from any to $priv_nets # pass in on $ext_if proto tcp from any to $comp3 port 80 flags S/SA synproxy state pass in on $ext_if inet proto tcp from port 20 to ($ext_if) user proxy flags S/SA keep state pass in inet proto icmp all icmp-type $icmp_types keep state pass in on $int_if from $int_if:network to any keep state pass out on $int_if from any to $int_if:network keep state pass out on $ext_if proto tcp all modulate state flags S/SA pass out on $ext_if proto { udp, icmp } all keep state _______________________________________________ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jul 5 13:33:22 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: questions@FreeBSD.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 01A3916A41F for ; Tue, 5 Jul 2005 13:33:22 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from i.tanusheff@procreditbank.bg) Received: from mail.procreditbank.bg (mail.procreditbank.bg [212.95.179.198]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id EAE4343D49 for ; Tue, 5 Jul 2005 13:33:20 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from i.tanusheff@procreditbank.bg) Received: (qmail 37442 invoked from network); 5 Jul 2005 16:33:18 +0300 Received: from unknown (HELO localhost) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 5 Jul 2005 16:33:18 +0300 Received: from proxy.procreditbank.bg ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (mail.procreditbank.bg [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with SMTP id 51928-857 for ; Tue, 5 Jul 2005 16:33:15 +0300 (EEST) Received: (qmail 37327 invoked from network); 5 Jul 2005 13:33:14 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO outmail.procreditbank.bg) (172.16.248.123) by mail.procreditbank.bg with SMTP; 5 Jul 2005 13:33:14 -0000 In-Reply-To: To: "Fady Shar" MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Lotus Notes Release 6.5.1 January 21, 2004 From: Ivailo Tanusheff Message-ID: Date: Tue, 5 Jul 2005 16:33:11 +0300 X-MIMETrack: Serialize by Router on DOMINO_HQ/PROCREDITBANK(Release 6.5.1|January 21, 2004) at 07/05/2005 04:33:13 PM, Serialize complete at 07/05/2005 04:33:13 PM X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new using ClamAV at procreditbank.bg Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: questions@FreeBSD.org, owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: How to prepare a boot CDROM X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 05 Jul 2005 13:33:22 -0000 Just download disk1 image file (.iso) and burn it with Nero :) "Fady Shar" Sent by: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org 07/05/2005 04:03 AM To questions@FreeBSD.org cc Subject How to prepare a boot CDROM hi I read the floppy prepare ... but i don't have floppy disk so, i want to know how to prepare a bootable CDROM .. i am using Nero Burning software thanx _________________________________________________________________ Express yourself instantly with MSN Messenger! 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References 1. http://g.msn.com/8HMBEN/2743??PS=47575 _______________________________________________ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jul 5 13:45:29 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3374D16A41C for ; Tue, 5 Jul 2005 13:45:29 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jerrymc@clunix.cl.msu.edu) Received: from clunix.cl.msu.edu (clunix.cl.msu.edu [35.9.2.10]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F286243D46 for ; Tue, 5 Jul 2005 13:45:28 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jerrymc@clunix.cl.msu.edu) Received: from clunix.cl.msu.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by clunix.cl.msu.edu (8.12.10+Sun/8.12.2) with ESMTP id j65DjSJF021260; Tue, 5 Jul 2005 09:45:29 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from jerrymc@localhost) by clunix.cl.msu.edu (8.12.10+Sun/8.12.2/Submit) id j65DjSd4021259; Tue, 5 Jul 2005 09:45:28 -0400 (EDT) From: Jerry McAllister Message-Id: <200507051345.j65DjSd4021259@clunix.cl.msu.edu> To: km4999@hotmail.com (Fady Shar) Date: Tue, 5 Jul 2005 09:45:28 -0400 (EDT) In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.5 PL7] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: How to prepare a boot CDROM X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 05 Jul 2005 13:45:29 -0000 > hi > > I read the floppy prepare ... but i don't have floppy disk > so, i want to know how to prepare a bootable CDROM .. i am using Nero > Burning software If you mean burning a CD of the install image, just download the ISO. It is an already prepared bootable ISO. Burn it as is with no additional preparation of conversion to ISO or bootable image or anything. Unfortunately I have never used 'Nero' so I don't know its commands or syntax. But, look for something that burns a plain file to the CD rather than doing any converting to ISO or boot image or anything. ////jerry > thanx > _________________________________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jul 5 13:56:35 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A32DA16A41C for ; Tue, 5 Jul 2005 13:56:35 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from wizlayer@gmail.com) Received: from engraver.valleygate.net (12-215-216-27.client.mchsi.com [12.215.216.27]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5618243D49 for ; Tue, 5 Jul 2005 13:56:33 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from wizlayer@gmail.com) Received: from wizard.valleygate.net (wizard.valleygate.net [10.51.10.3]) by engraver.valleygate.net (8.13.3/8.13.3) with ESMTP id j65DuSET022112 for ; Tue, 5 Jul 2005 09:56:28 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from wizlayer@gmail.com) From: wizlayer To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Tue, 5 Jul 2005 09:56:26 -0400 User-Agent: KMail/1.8 References: <200507051345.j65DjSd4021259@clunix.cl.msu.edu> In-Reply-To: <200507051345.j65DjSd4021259@clunix.cl.msu.edu> X-Face: "e_)EG1Ia?&ecqhxa3_`G|cr35_87a'T"AlQ5IdTBhZiRj}wk9EdPBnW,=?iso-8859-1?q?oSeBhvgAPmZZU=24=0A?= W'Edks*9`,UQ3y\zk%deq; (N8p5>>Pdje|W%i2b7_C{KOi"JBmNTeItUGg\FX9`b#U4P X-Copyright: Copyright 2005, Michael Hauber, All rights reserved. X-Notice: Duplication, modification, and/or redistribution are prohibited without proper consent from the author. MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200507050956.26942.wizlayer@gmail.com> Subject: Re: How to prepare a boot CDROM X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: wizlayer@gmail.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 05 Jul 2005 13:56:35 -0000 On Tuesday 05 July 2005 09:45 am, Jerry McAllister wrote: > > hi > > > > I read the floppy prepare ... but i don't have floppy disk > > so, i want to know how to prepare a bootable CDROM .. i am > > using Nero Burning software > > If you mean burning a CD of the install image, just download > the ISO. It is an already prepared bootable ISO. Burn it as is > with no additional preparation of conversion to ISO or bootable > image or anything. > > Unfortunately I have never used 'Nero' so I don't know its > commands or syntax. But, look for something that burns a > plain file to the CD rather than doing any converting to ISO or > boot image or anything. > > ////jerry Nero is fine... No special syntax. Nothing special to do. Just burn the image, reboot, and you're on your way. WizLayer From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jul 5 14:16:43 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2875516A41C for ; Tue, 5 Jul 2005 14:16:43 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from gjbailey@gmail.com) Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.196]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E204743D55 for ; Tue, 5 Jul 2005 14:16:42 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from gjbailey@gmail.com) Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id i21so878478wra for ; Tue, 05 Jul 2005 07:16:42 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; b=IQU7XEsbVSNUB3OK8GQ2t8ParjOBFJ0UKjeUBOCeP9/loWYU84TFjbHA+Hc8nE1yvBDkNaezmLjwNof4D7qTbXBmv7qkaFB8UceLDg7qrl0qlYQpBw7uJWdn+3Q8ZpIwEWX7BPnCOA+couyByUmwotSXNHERpTuvOdp1yJkMDkM= Received: by 10.54.80.7 with SMTP id d7mr2965974wrb; Tue, 05 Jul 2005 07:16:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.82.12 with HTTP; Tue, 5 Jul 2005 07:16:42 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <48a5f32a050705071651b5ee5a@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 5 Jul 2005 16:16:42 +0200 From: Gareth Bailey To: freebsd-questions Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline Subject: Dump & Restore to smaller partition X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Gareth Bailey List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 05 Jul 2005 14:16:43 -0000 Hello, Does anyone know if the dump and restore method for moving a partition to a new disk requires the destination partition to be as big or bigger that the source? >From my understanding, the whole partition, including blank space will be dumped and restored. If this is the case then the destination will need to be at least as big. My situation is as follows: I have a 30GB usr partition with about 10GB of data in it. I want to move this data (flags and all!) to a new 20GB usr partition. Will dump/restore do this? .. or what should i use? Thanks!=20 Gareth From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jul 5 14:32:08 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9E0F216A41F for ; Tue, 5 Jul 2005 14:32:08 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from nlamprecht@gmail.com) Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.196]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6A1A643D4C for ; Tue, 5 Jul 2005 14:32:08 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from nlamprecht@gmail.com) Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id z6so473007nzd for ; Tue, 05 Jul 2005 07:32:07 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; b=qSMO6d8xwLovDz8ciQ3obKwDdmd6OdBV2eOwoWNDkwlCR5mWyFESvGyI9zX/n3dcDAP412dvLcG1dCo/WA+yvqfkw8rqvFk1A+a/nL4FxG3EWsnMkH3ZFHomgNv0jBSaXAIH5M6RNV3Y2ZRr7nTJtDds9LRNkiLzR/qRHM0XTmg= Received: by 10.36.104.16 with SMTP id b16mr1445351nzc; Tue, 05 Jul 2005 07:26:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.105.17 with HTTP; Tue, 5 Jul 2005 07:26:06 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <7cbadc870507050726369edadd@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 5 Jul 2005 16:26:06 +0200 From: Nelis Lamprecht To: FreeBSD Questions Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline Cc: Subject: Procedure for migrating user accounts to new system ? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Nelis Lamprecht List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 05 Jul 2005 14:32:08 -0000 Hi, What is the correct procedure to follow for migrating user accounts from one FreeBSD 4.x system to a new FreeBSD 4.x system ? We're sticking to 4.x due to legacy issues(Netware) in case I get asked. Didn't see answer to this in the FAQ's or Handbook and google answers seem sketchy. Thanks. Nelis From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jul 5 14:36:15 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 442EF16A41C for ; Tue, 5 Jul 2005 14:36:15 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jerrymc@clunix.cl.msu.edu) Received: from clunix.cl.msu.edu (clunix.cl.msu.edu [35.9.2.10]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0A33543D46 for ; Tue, 5 Jul 2005 14:36:10 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jerrymc@clunix.cl.msu.edu) Received: from clunix.cl.msu.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by clunix.cl.msu.edu (8.12.10+Sun/8.12.2) with ESMTP id j65EaAJF021409; Tue, 5 Jul 2005 10:36:10 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from jerrymc@localhost) by clunix.cl.msu.edu (8.12.10+Sun/8.12.2/Submit) id j65EaAnM021408; Tue, 5 Jul 2005 10:36:10 -0400 (EDT) From: Jerry McAllister Message-Id: <200507051436.j65EaAnM021408@clunix.cl.msu.edu> To: gjbailey@gmail.com Date: Tue, 5 Jul 2005 10:36:10 -0400 (EDT) In-Reply-To: <48a5f32a050705071651b5ee5a@mail.gmail.com> X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.5 PL7] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions Subject: Re: Dump & Restore to smaller partition X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 05 Jul 2005 14:36:15 -0000 > > Hello, > > Does anyone know if the dump and restore method for > moving a partition to a new disk requires the destination > partition to be as big or bigger that the source? It will need to be big enough to contain all the data. It the old file system had a lot of empty (unused) space then the new one can be smaller by about the amount of space that was unused.. > >From my understanding, the whole partition, including > blank space will be dumped and restored. If this is the > case then the destination will need to be at least as big. Only the files (directories are also files) get dumped. It does not dump the filesystem as it was newfs-ed. Rather it makes a list of all the files & directories by inode number and then dumps each along with all ownership, permission, flag and link information. > My situation is as follows: > I have a 30GB usr partition with about 10GB of data in it. > I want to move this data (flags and all!) to a new 20GB > usr partition. > > Will dump/restore do this? .. or what should i use? No problem. After making the new partition with disklabel and making a filesystem out of it with newfs. Presuming your old 30 GB filesystem is mounted as /fsa and the new 20 GB filesystem is mounted as /fsb, dump 0af /fsa/fsa.dump /fsa cd /fsb restore rf /fsa/fsa.dump should work just fine - although it makes me nervous to put the dump file in the same filesystem you are dumping. Since it makes the inode list before it starts dumping and creating the dump file, it should work. It just feels weird. So, if you have some other place to put a 10 GB dump file, then go ahead and use it instead. ////jerry > > Thanks! > Gareth > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jul 5 15:14:59 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5BF5B16A41C for ; Tue, 5 Jul 2005 15:14:59 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from andreas@wideroe.net) Received: from malibu.wideroe.net (malibu.wideroe.net [193.71.196.56]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E904043D45 for ; Tue, 5 Jul 2005 15:14:58 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from andreas@wideroe.net) Received: from hangloose.wideroe.net (195.80-202-145.nextgentel.com [80.202.145.195]) (authenticated bits=0) by malibu.wideroe.net (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id j65FEtHs050275 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-DSS-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NO) for ; Tue, 5 Jul 2005 17:14:56 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from andreas@wideroe.net) Message-Id: <6.1.2.0.2.20050705171023.038c2ec0@malibu.wideroe.net> X-Sender: awand@malibu.wideroe.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 6.1.2.0 Date: Tue, 05 Jul 2005 17:14:50 +0200 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: Andreas =?iso-8859-1?Q?Wider=F8e?= Andersen Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed X-Spam-Status: No, score=1.0 required=7.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_05, RCVD_IN_NJABL_DUL,RCVD_IN_SORBS_DUL autolearn=no version=3.0.2 X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.0.2 (2004-11-16) on malibu.wideroe.net Subject: Trouble mounting Zip drive X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 05 Jul 2005 15:14:59 -0000 Hi, I'm having problems mounting a SCSI Iomega 100 Zip drive on my 4.11 RELEASE system: -> From boot, this is what I see: da0 at ncr0 bus 0 target 5 lun 0 da0: Removable Direct Access SCSI-2 device da0: 3.300MB/s transfers da0: 96MB (196608 512 byte sectors: 64H 32S/T 96C) -> In my /etc/fstab i have this line: /dev/da0s4 /zip ufs rw,noauto 0 0 I have mkdir a /zip directory This is the problem: $ mount /zip mount: /dev/da0s4: Operation not permitted I have tried many things now, but can't make things work. Any suggestion to what I do wrong? Thanks! Andreas --- Andreas Wideroe Andersen Mobile: (+47) 90 92 61 21 http://www.filmshooting.com Norsk Smalfilm AS http://www.smalfilm.no From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jul 5 15:19:47 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7596816A41C for ; Tue, 5 Jul 2005 15:19:47 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from albi@scii.nl) Received: from post-23.mail.nl.demon.net (post-23.mail.nl.demon.net [194.159.73.193]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2E40543D5C for ; Tue, 5 Jul 2005 15:19:47 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from albi@scii.nl) Received: from aseed.demon.nl ([83.160.138.119]:10013 helo=mail.aseed.antenna.nl) by post-23.mail.nl.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1DppD8-000NvS-AP; Tue, 05 Jul 2005 15:19:46 +0000 Received: from http.aseed.antenna.nl (unknown [192.168.0.50]) by mail.aseed.antenna.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id D660D154476; Tue, 5 Jul 2005 17:21:24 +0200 (CEST) Received: from localhost.localdomain (217-19-30-147.dsl.cambrium.nl [217.19.30.147]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by http.aseed.antenna.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id DCF6C58C606; Tue, 5 Jul 2005 17:19:46 +0200 (CEST) Date: Tue, 5 Jul 2005 17:19:44 +0200 From: "albi@scii.nl" To: Andreas =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Wider=F8e?= Andersen Message-Id: <20050705171944.7799f047.albi@scii.nl> In-Reply-To: <6.1.2.0.2.20050705171023.038c2ec0@malibu.wideroe.net> References: <6.1.2.0.2.20050705171023.038c2ec0@malibu.wideroe.net> X-Mailer: Sylpheed version 1.0.4 (GTK+ 1.2.10; i386-pc-linux-gnu) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Trouble mounting Zip drive X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 05 Jul 2005 15:19:47 -0000 On Tue, 05 Jul 2005 17:14:50 +0200 Andreas Wider=F8e Andersen wrote: > Hi, > I'm having problems mounting a SCSI Iomega 100 Zip drive on my 4.11 > RELEASE system: >=20 > -> From boot, this is what I see: >=20 > da0 at ncr0 bus 0 target 5 lun 0 > da0: Removable Direct Access SCSI-2 device > da0: 3.300MB/s transfers > da0: 96MB (196608 512 byte sectors: 64H 32S/T 96C) >=20 > -> In my /etc/fstab i have this line: >=20 > /dev/da0s4 /zip ufs rw,noauto 0 =20 > 0 >=20 > I have mkdir a /zip directory >=20 > This is the problem: >=20 > $ mount /zip > mount: /dev/da0s4: Operation not permitted did you try mounting it as root ? (and what does /var/log/messages /var/log/dmesg say about it ?) From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jul 5 15:31:32 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A77CF16A41C for ; Tue, 5 Jul 2005 15:31:32 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from dfarmour@myrealbox.com) Received: from pd3mo3so.prod.shaw.ca (shawidc-mo1.cg.shawcable.net [24.71.223.10]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7474143D45 for ; Tue, 5 Jul 2005 15:31:32 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from dfarmour@myrealbox.com) Received: from pd2mr4so.prod.shaw.ca (pd2mr4so-qfe3.prod.shaw.ca [10.0.141.107]) by l-daemon (Sun ONE Messaging Server 6.0 HotFix 1.01 (built Mar 15 2004)) with ESMTP id <0IJ500HIEV40REUD@l-daemon> for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Tue, 05 Jul 2005 09:31:12 -0600 (MDT) Received: from pn2ml6so.prod.shaw.ca ([10.0.121.150]) by pd2mr4so.prod.shaw.ca (Sun ONE Messaging Server 6.0 HotFix 1.01 (built Mar 15 2004)) with ESMTP id <0IJ5009YJV405VO0@pd2mr4so.prod.shaw.ca> for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Tue, 05 Jul 2005 09:31:12 -0600 (MDT) Received: from S0106000d87ae2db6.gv.shawcable.net (S0106000d87ae2db6.gv.shawcable.net [24.108.146.24]) by l-daemon (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.18 (built Jul 28 2003)) with ESMTP id <0IJ50000JV3ZO5@l-daemon> for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Tue, 05 Jul 2005 09:31:11 -0600 (MDT) Date: Tue, 05 Jul 2005 08:32:11 -0700 From: David Armour In-reply-to: <20050705103506.41EFF16A420@hub.freebsd.org> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, Mike Brown Message-id: <200507050832.12351.dfarmour@myrealbox.com> Organization: dfarmour.org MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Content-disposition: inline References: <20050705103506.41EFF16A420@hub.freebsd.org> User-Agent: KMail/1.8 Cc: Subject: Re: serious note(s) [WAS: Linux move to FreeBSD] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 05 Jul 2005 15:31:32 -0000 hello, > On a more serious note, am I the only one who has been > getting hiccups of freebsd-questions mail from last year? I > just got a bunch of traffic (including one of the previous > incarnations of this abysmal Beastie logo non-debate) from > late December, all posts that I had seen before. Thanks for your note. No, you're not the only one. As I have occasionally re-read (other) stuff by mistake, I made a point of noting the Dec 2004 dates too. I wondered if Kmail, shawmail, or some other as-yet-unnamed network glitch caused the hiccups. And then, within a day or so, the list digest feed(s) seemed to dry up for a day and half. I'm used to scanning two or three freebsd-questions' digests/day, and noticed I suddenly had all this extra time. :c) The digests resumed again overnight [two dated 'Today' at 3:35 & 5:00 am, if anyone's interested], but the volume of traffic still seems severely reduced. I hope this info is of some use. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jul 5 15:34:25 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EEF8716A465 for ; Tue, 5 Jul 2005 15:34:24 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from list-freebsd-2004@morbius.sent.com) Received: from out1.smtp.messagingengine.com (out1.smtp.messagingengine.com [66.111.4.25]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BCF9643D45 for ; Tue, 5 Jul 2005 15:34:24 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from list-freebsd-2004@morbius.sent.com) Received: from frontend2.messagingengine.com (frontend2.internal [10.202.2.151]) by frontend1.messagingengine.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A926BCB61D6 for ; Tue, 5 Jul 2005 11:34:14 -0400 (EDT) X-Sasl-enc: Y27fZwVr+1IP/29nzs6/Z+XYr73C0P21M/2sxKBlzNSk 1120577653 Received: from gumby.localdomain (dsl-80-41-79-236.access.as9105.com [80.41.79.236]) by frontend2.messagingengine.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A0ED9570147 for ; Tue, 5 Jul 2005 11:34:13 -0400 (EDT) From: RW To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Tue, 5 Jul 2005 16:34:11 +0100 User-Agent: KMail/1.8.1 References: In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200507051634.12137.list-freebsd-2004@morbius.sent.com> Subject: Re: fsck_ext2fs problems X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 05 Jul 2005 15:34:25 -0000 On Monday 04 July 2005 17:18, Jaap Boender wrote: > I'd like to share a filesystem on the same computer between FreeBSD and > Linux, and as it seems that FreeBSD supports ext2 better than Linux does > ufs(2), I've created an ext2 filesystem. If I were you I'd create an ext3 partion from LInux - this is ext2 with jounalling. fsck_ext2fs can synchronized the partition with it's journal, and ext3 can then be mounted as ext2 by FreeBSD. FreeBSD defaults to mounting ext2 synchronously which is slow, but reliable. On the Linux side ext3 is a good enough filesystem for everyday use. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jul 5 15:44:30 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8365A16A427 for ; Tue, 5 Jul 2005 15:44:30 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from andreas@wideroe.net) Received: from malibu.wideroe.net (malibu.wideroe.net [193.71.196.56]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0D28C43D45 for ; Tue, 5 Jul 2005 15:44:29 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from andreas@wideroe.net) Received: from hangloose.wideroe.net (195.80-202-145.nextgentel.com [80.202.145.195]) (authenticated bits=0) by malibu.wideroe.net (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id j65FiNHs050672 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-DSS-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NO); Tue, 5 Jul 2005 17:44:23 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from andreas@wideroe.net) Message-Id: <6.1.2.0.2.20050705174116.0be13a38@malibu.wideroe.net> X-Sender: awand@malibu.wideroe.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 6.1.2.0 Date: Tue, 05 Jul 2005 17:44:17 +0200 To: "albi@scii.nl" From: Andreas =?iso-8859-1?Q?Wider=F8e?= Andersen In-Reply-To: <20050705171944.7799f047.albi@scii.nl> References: <6.1.2.0.2.20050705171023.038c2ec0@malibu.wideroe.net> <20050705171944.7799f047.albi@scii.nl> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.0 required=7.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_00, RCVD_IN_NJABL_DUL,RCVD_IN_SORBS_DUL,TO_ADDRESS_EQ_REAL autolearn=no version=3.0.2 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.0.2 (2004-11-16) on malibu.wideroe.net Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Trouble mounting Zip drive X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 05 Jul 2005 15:44:30 -0000 At 17:19 05.07.2005, albi@scii.nl wrote: >On Tue, 05 Jul 2005 17:14:50 +0200 >Andreas Wider=F8e Andersen wrote: > > > Hi, > > I'm having problems mounting a SCSI Iomega 100 Zip drive on my 4.11 > > RELEASE system: > > > > -> From boot, this is what I see: > > > > da0 at ncr0 bus 0 target 5 lun 0 > > da0: Removable Direct Access SCSI-2 device > > da0: 3.300MB/s transfers > > da0: 96MB (196608 512 byte sectors: 64H 32S/T 96C) > > > > -> In my /etc/fstab i have this line: > > > > /dev/da0s4 /zip ufs rw,noauto 0 > > 0 > > > > I have mkdir a /zip directory > > > > This is the problem: > > > > $ mount /zip > > mount: /dev/da0s4: Operation not permitted > >did you try mounting it as root ? >(and what does /var/log/messages /var/log/dmesg say about it ?) Uhh.. embarrasing :-O (yes, I was not root! Well, still have a problem as root (I've had this problem from the start=20 when I WAS logged in as root): # mount /zip mount: /dev/da0s4 on /zip: incorrect super block /Andreas --- Andreas Wideroe Andersen Mobile: (+47) 90 92 61 21 http://www.filmshooting.com Norsk Smalfilm AS http://www.smalfilm.no=20 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jul 5 16:01:32 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2E3CB16A41F for ; Tue, 5 Jul 2005 16:01:32 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from do.you.got.root@gmail.com) Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.196]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DC58A43D4C for ; Tue, 5 Jul 2005 16:01:31 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from do.you.got.root@gmail.com) Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 36so930806wra for ; Tue, 05 Jul 2005 09:01:30 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; b=GZqJAfvGb8mfqyDIZR6fWzonCcYdPLWg8QIWesLBF2+C0n61cbIMiH4ajODT+gRNW7Aenq30CAOXcVLC5wutvo3hoPY7JPEQkOxyFC8XGIZi6eL06u6IiZbEtBH1VKjQ/W48o/95J84UAwPB+uTXYHy4vNWaszz2rcijNeebjXc= Received: by 10.54.2.42 with SMTP id 42mr244554wrb; Tue, 05 Jul 2005 09:01:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.78.3 with HTTP; Tue, 5 Jul 2005 09:01:30 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Tue, 5 Jul 2005 12:01:30 -0400 From: Todd Suits To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline Subject: Apache 2 SSL Error X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Todd Suits List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 05 Jul 2005 16:01:32 -0000 I set up a FreeBSD 4.11 jail to learn how to setup SSL on Apache 2 correctly. I installed Apache 2.0.54 from ports. I generated SSL certs just for testing purposes. I'm not able to get any response at all from the server on SSL unless I set the Listen :443 directive in the httpd.conf as where I think it is supposed to be set in ssl.conf. I get the following error in httpd-error.log: [Tue Jul 05 10:15:28 2005] [error] [client 24.123.123.123] Invalid method in request \x80g\x01\x03 As this is just temporary and for testing purposes I have posted the configs online as they are quite big and this is a work in progress, see links below. http://www.beerdrinka.com/httpd.conf http://www.beerdrinka.com/ssl.conf I keep re-reading the apache docs but there is just something I am missing. As a note I have also tried this in a non-jail environment on 5.3 p16 and get the same error results. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jul 5 16:18:12 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3D47116A41C for ; Tue, 5 Jul 2005 16:18:12 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from algould@datawok.com) Received: from smtpauth07.mail.atl.earthlink.net (smtpauth07.mail.atl.earthlink.net [209.86.89.67]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1370F43D46 for ; Tue, 5 Jul 2005 16:18:12 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from algould@datawok.com) Received: from [206.255.31.21] (helo=yoda.datawok.com) by smtpauth07.mail.atl.earthlink.net with asmtp (TLSv1:RC4-MD5:128) (Exim 4.34) id 1Dpq7f-00030F-FE; Tue, 05 Jul 2005 12:18:11 -0400 From: "Andrew L. Gould" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, Todd Suits Date: Tue, 5 Jul 2005 11:19:12 -0500 User-Agent: KMail/1.6.2 References: In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <200507051119.12128.algould@datawok.com> X-ELNK-Trace: ee791d459e3d6817d780f4a490ca69563f9fea00a6dd62bcb44c47f39bb97afa181c55bedac06b68350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c X-Originating-IP: 206.255.31.21 Cc: Subject: Re: Apache 2 SSL Error X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 05 Jul 2005 16:18:12 -0000 On Tuesday 05 July 2005 11:01 am, Todd Suits wrote: > I set up a FreeBSD 4.11 jail to learn how to setup SSL on Apache 2 > correctly. I installed Apache 2.0.54 from ports. I generated SSL > certs just for testing purposes. I'm not able to get any response at > all from the server on SSL unless I set the Listen :443 directive in > the httpd.conf as where I think it is supposed to be set in ssl.conf. > I get the following error in httpd-error.log: > > [Tue Jul 05 10:15:28 2005] [error] [client 24.123.123.123] Invalid > method in request \x80g\x01\x03 > > As this is just temporary and for testing purposes I have posted the > configs online as they are quite big and this is a work in progress, > see links below. > > http://www.beerdrinka.com/httpd.conf > > http://www.beerdrinka.com/ssl.conf > > I keep re-reading the apache docs but there is just something I am > missing. As a note I have also tried this in a non-jail environment > on 5.3 p16 and get the same error results. When trying to use SSL, are you using a URL with "http://" or "https://"? Andrew Gould From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jul 5 16:52:08 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 59EEA16A41C for ; Tue, 5 Jul 2005 16:52:08 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from cburchell@muttart.org) Received: from mx.muttart.org (mx.muttart.org [66.18.201.230]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2681843D46 for ; Tue, 5 Jul 2005 16:52:07 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from cburchell@muttart.org) Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5.7226.0 Date: Tue, 5 Jul 2005 10:52:06 -0600 Message-ID: X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: How to diagnose crashes? Thread-Index: AcWBfSbLBTVjYpQrS9ycve26kNNCCAABHXeA From: "Chris Burchell" To: Subject: How to diagnose crashes? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 05 Jul 2005 16:52:08 -0000 My FreeBSD 5.3-RELEASE box seems to be spontaneously restarting from time to time. I have not yet contacted the colo facility to determine if it's a power issue, but wonder if anyone can help me out in how to diagnose whether or not it's a server crash and not a power problem. Where should I look for tips / hints that might help me determine the cause of a crash that forced a reboot? Thanks, Chris From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jul 5 16:54:31 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0640916A41C for ; Tue, 5 Jul 2005 16:54:31 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from kris@obsecurity.org) Received: from obsecurity.dyndns.org (CPE0050040655c8-CM00111ae02aac.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com [69.194.102.232]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A806143D48 for ; Tue, 5 Jul 2005 16:54:30 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from kris@obsecurity.org) Received: by obsecurity.dyndns.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id CF52A5130C; Tue, 5 Jul 2005 12:54:29 -0400 (EDT) Date: Tue, 5 Jul 2005 12:54:29 -0400 From: Kris Kennaway To: Chris Burchell Message-ID: <20050705165429.GA97357@xor.obsecurity.org> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="3V7upXqbjpZ4EhLz" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: How to diagnose crashes? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 05 Jul 2005 16:54:31 -0000 --3V7upXqbjpZ4EhLz Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Tue, Jul 05, 2005 at 10:52:06AM -0600, Chris Burchell wrote: > My FreeBSD 5.3-RELEASE box seems to be spontaneously restarting from > time to time. >=20 > I have not yet contacted the colo facility to determine if it's a power > issue, but wonder if anyone can help me out in how to diagnose whether > or not it's a server crash and not a power problem. >=20 > Where should I look for tips / hints that might help me determine the > cause of a crash that forced a reboot? See the chapter on kernel debugging in the developers' handbook. Kris --3V7upXqbjpZ4EhLz Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.1 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFCyrtFWry0BWjoQKURAiOiAJ9SCO5Yfk8oJ4w8FH+BpGjjZ9xWfACgpkfp 1NHLWWk8IV+Svm8kjLCtSkM= =S09n -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --3V7upXqbjpZ4EhLz-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jul 5 16:56:37 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F361016A41C for ; Tue, 5 Jul 2005 16:56:36 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from smurphy@calarts.edu) Received: from muse.calarts.edu (muse.calarts.edu [198.182.157.5]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B80F143D46 for ; Tue, 5 Jul 2005 16:56:36 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from smurphy@calarts.edu) Received: from [198.182.157.164] (dhcp7164.calarts.edu [198.182.157.164]) by muse.calarts.edu (8.11.7p1+Sun/8.11.7) with ESMTP id j65GuaM17034 for ; Tue, 5 Jul 2005 09:56:36 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <42CABBDF.7030801@calarts.edu> Date: Tue, 05 Jul 2005 09:57:03 -0700 From: Sean Murphy User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.2 (Windows/20050317) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Help passwd file convert X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 05 Jul 2005 16:56:37 -0000 I am going to move over from Solaris 8 to FreeBSD 5.4 but would like to keep uid, usernames, and passwords from the Solaris 8 box intact when I move them to the FreeBSD box. Is it just as simple as a copy and paste for the passwd file? Is there any commands I have to run after the copy and paste? Anything need to be done to the master.passwd file? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jul 5 17:02:38 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7DC7016A41C for ; Tue, 5 Jul 2005 17:02:38 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from kdk@daleco.biz) Received: from ezekiel.daleco.biz (southernuniform.com [66.76.92.18]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B44B543D49 for ; Tue, 5 Jul 2005 17:02:37 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from kdk@daleco.biz) Received: from [192.168.2.2] ([69.27.157.226]) by ezekiel.daleco.biz (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id j65H2Xg9083202; Tue, 5 Jul 2005 12:02:34 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from kdk@daleco.biz) Message-ID: <42CABD08.8070106@daleco.biz> Date: Tue, 05 Jul 2005 12:02:00 -0500 From: Kevin Kinsey User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.7.8) Gecko/20050607 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Andreas_Wider=F8e_Andersen?= References: <6.1.2.0.2.20050705171023.038c2ec0@malibu.wideroe.net> <20050705171944.7799f047.albi@scii.nl> <6.1.2.0.2.20050705174116.0be13a38@malibu.wideroe.net> In-Reply-To: <6.1.2.0.2.20050705174116.0be13a38@malibu.wideroe.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Cc: "albi@scii.nl" , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Trouble mounting Zip drive X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 05 Jul 2005 17:02:38 -0000 Andreas Widerøe Andersen wrote: > At 17:19 05.07.2005, albi@scii.nl wrote: > >> On Tue, 05 Jul 2005 17:14:50 +0200 >> Andreas Widerøe Andersen wrote: >> >> > Hi, >> > I'm having problems mounting a SCSI Iomega 100 Zip drive on my 4.11 >> > RELEASE system: >> >> did you try mounting it as root ? >> (and what does /var/log/messages /var/log/dmesg say about it ?) > > > Uhh.. embarrasing :-O (yes, I was not root! > > Well, still have a problem as root (I've had this problem from the > start when I WAS logged in as root): > > # mount /zip > mount: /dev/da0s4 on /zip: incorrect super block > > /Andreas Is the filesystem really "ufs" as noted in /etc/fstab? IIRC, trying to mount a non-ufs filesystem as ufs will give this error. Other possibilities include a bad disk ... :-( HTH, Kevin Kinsey From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jul 5 17:03:10 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3142E16A41C for ; Tue, 5 Jul 2005 17:03:10 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from casey@phantombsd.org) Received: from phantombsd.org (dsl231-036-158.sea1.dsl.speakeasy.net [216.231.36.158]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DC3B043D64 for ; Tue, 5 Jul 2005 17:03:07 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from casey@phantombsd.org) Received: by phantombsd.org (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 322A0102F13; Tue, 5 Jul 2005 10:03:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: from tomcat.phantombsd.org (tomcat.phantombsd.org [192.168.1.6]) by phantombsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0463D102E94; Tue, 5 Jul 2005 10:03:02 -0700 (PDT) From: Casey Scott To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Tue, 5 Jul 2005 10:03:01 -0700 User-Agent: KMail/1.6.2 References: In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <200507051003.01890.casey@phantombsd.org> X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.0.4 (2005-06-05) on eagle.phantombsd.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.8 required=5.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED autolearn=failed version=3.0.4 Cc: Chris Burchell Subject: Re: How to diagnose crashes? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 05 Jul 2005 17:03:10 -0000 > My FreeBSD 5.3-RELEASE box seems to be spontaneously restarting from > time to time. > > I have not yet contacted the colo facility to determine if it's a power > issue, but wonder if anyone can help me out in how to diagnose whether > or not it's a server crash and not a power problem. > > Where should I look for tips / hints that might help me determine the > cause of a crash that forced a reboot? > > Thanks, > Chris > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" Did the reboot occur during a high network load? In my case, the reboots seem to be related to the kernel TCP/IP stack. The box reboots under network load way too often. I don't suspect any other hard problem with it. It handle kernel builds and makeworlds w/o incident. MemTest86 did not find any problems with the memory. I have seen some other posts on this list about this issue. The posters thought it was a problem with SMP kernels. I compiled a uniproc kernel and just had another spontaneous reboot last night! After looking for .core, you may want to capture /dev/console messages to a log file. I am assuming since the box is colo'd, you don't have console access. You may still miss some output though. Casey From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jul 5 17:03:13 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2498416A420 for ; Tue, 5 Jul 2005 17:03:13 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from cyto@hellband.co.uk) Received: from hbdnet.uk.to (host-84-9-60-212.bulldogdsl.com [84.9.60.212]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8D9E543D46 for ; Tue, 5 Jul 2005 17:03:11 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from cyto@hellband.co.uk) Received: from WRKHBDNET (unknown [192.168.0.1]) by hbdnet.uk.to (Postfix) with ESMTP id 99EA678083C; Tue, 5 Jul 2005 18:00:49 +0100 (BST) Message-ID: <007d01c58183$6cc4c1a0$0200a8c0@WRKHBDNET> From: "Cytomatrix" To: "Mike Brown" References: <20050705071336.26328.qmail@hyperreal.org> Date: Tue, 5 Jul 2005 18:03:08 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2527 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2527 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Linux move to FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 05 Jul 2005 17:03:13 -0000 This is the funniest discussion i have ever read. I saving these messages for future entertainment. I love Tux and Beastie pictures regards. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mike Brown" To: Sent: Tuesday, July 05, 2005 8:13 AM Subject: Re: Linux move to FreeBSD > Bob Hall wrote: >> The belief that guys with red skin, horns, pointy tails, and pitchforks >> represent the devil is a European superstition, not a Christian >> doctrine. There's no support for it in the Bible or the writings of the >> church fathers. > > There is also no support, except among BSD fans, for horned, > pointy-tailed, > red-skinned creatures with pitchforks representing anything other than a > li'l > devil. Saying it represents an invisible, oft-benevolent 'daemon' has very > little credibility when the mascot was clearly intended to look like what > two-thirds of humanity would recognize as _el diablo_, albeit an awfully > harmless, cartoony one. > > I think I will give one of my favorite input & control devices, the > 'mouse', a > mascot. It'll look a lot like this guy: > http://images.google.com/images?q=mickey%20mouse > ...but if anyone complains I'll just tell them it's clearly not an animate > rodent, but is rather a stylized, anthropomorphic interpretation of a > computer > accessory. I'm sure the lawyers at Disney will see my point of view. Hey, > if > it works for Beastie the "daemon"... > > On a more serious note, am I the only one who has been getting hiccups of > freebsd-questions mail from last year? I just got a bunch of traffic > (including one of the previous incarnations of this abysmal Beastie logo > non-debate) from late December, all posts that I had seen before. > > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jul 5 17:12:13 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9E22B16A41C for ; Tue, 5 Jul 2005 17:12:13 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from xfb52@dial.pipex.com) Received: from smtp-out4.blueyonder.co.uk (smtp-out4.blueyonder.co.uk [195.188.213.7]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1202443D48 for ; Tue, 5 Jul 2005 17:12:12 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from xfb52@dial.pipex.com) Received: from [82.41.37.55] ([82.41.37.55]) by smtp-out4.blueyonder.co.uk with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.6713); Tue, 5 Jul 2005 18:12:53 +0100 Message-ID: <42CABF6A.7010400@dial.pipex.com> Date: Tue, 05 Jul 2005 18:12:10 +0100 From: Alex Zbyslaw User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-GB; rv:1.7.8) Gecko/20050530 X-Accept-Language: en, en-us, pl MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Jerry McAllister , gjbailey@gmail.com References: <200507051436.j65EaAnM021408@clunix.cl.msu.edu> In-Reply-To: <200507051436.j65EaAnM021408@clunix.cl.msu.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-OriginalArrivalTime: 05 Jul 2005 17:12:53.0881 (UTC) FILETIME=[C7DE0690:01C58184] Cc: freebsd-questions Subject: Re: Dump & Restore to smaller partition X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 05 Jul 2005 17:12:13 -0000 Jerry McAllister wrote: >>Hello, >> >>Does anyone know if the dump and restore method for >>moving a partition to a new disk requires the destination >>partition to be as big or bigger that the source? >> >> > >It will need to be big enough to contain all the data. >It the old file system had a lot of empty (unused) space then >the new one can be smaller by about the amount of space >that was unused.. > > > >>>From my understanding, the whole partition, including >>blank space will be dumped and restored. If this is the >>case then the destination will need to be at least as big. >> >> > >Only the files (directories are also files) get dumped. It >does not dump the filesystem as it was newfs-ed. Rather it >makes a list of all the files & directories by inode number and >then dumps each along with all ownership, permission, flag and >link information. > > > >>My situation is as follows: >>I have a 30GB usr partition with about 10GB of data in it. >>I want to move this data (flags and all!) to a new 20GB >>usr partition. >> >>Will dump/restore do this? .. or what should i use? >> >> > >No problem. > >After making the new partition with disklabel and making a filesystem >out of it with newfs. Presuming your old 30 GB filesystem is mounted >as /fsa and the new 20 GB filesystem is mounted as /fsb, > > dump 0af /fsa/fsa.dump /fsa > cd /fsb > restore rf /fsa/fsa.dump > >should work just fine - although it makes me nervous to put the >dump file in the same filesystem you are dumping. Since it makes >the inode list before it starts dumping and creating the dump file, >it should work. It just feels weird. So, if you have some other >place to put a 10 GB dump file, then go ahead and use it instead. > > Just do it with pipes: dump -0af - /fsa | (cd /fsb; restore -rf -) Obviously /fsb must be mounted when you do this. If you feel paranoid and don't mind it taking longer dump -0af - /fsa | (cd /fsb; restore -ivf -) will do the restore in interactive mode, allowing you to quit if you make a mistake e.g. you see the cd failed. It would also let you select only a subset of files to restore. Specifying -b 64 to dump and restore might make it go quicker. And if this is a mounted UFS2 partition then dump should also take -L so it makes a checkpoint. --Alex From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jul 5 17:20:40 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 39C3F16A41C for ; Tue, 5 Jul 2005 17:20:40 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from brandon-l@wyops.com) Received: from my.wyoming.com (MY.WYOMING.COM [216.67.144.202]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BFF2E43D48 for ; Tue, 5 Jul 2005 17:20:37 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from brandon-l@wyops.com) Received: from bhriw.wyops.com (host-69-145-253-1.bln-mt.client.bresnan.net [69.145.253.1]) by MAIL.WYOPS.COM (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id j65HKaS25401 for ; Tue, 5 Jul 2005 11:20:36 -0600 Message-Id: <6.1.1.1.0.20050705111540.036684f0@mail.wyops.com> X-Sender: brandon-l@mail.wyops.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 6.1.1.1 Date: Tue, 05 Jul 2005 11:20:32 -0600 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: Brandon Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Subject: NFS Server is not responding / Alive again X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 05 Jul 2005 17:20:40 -0000 Guys, Can anyone explain to me how to diagnose this issue further? I'm not quite sure whats causing this problem, and I'm not sure how much of a problem it is either. I'm getting alot of nfs server hangs in the logs: cat /var/log/messages Jul 2 22:20:47 be-3 last message repeated 11 times Jul 2 22:20:51 be-3 kernel: nfs server bluearc:/smtp: is alive again Jul 2 22:20:52 be-3 last message repeated 5 times Jul 3 00:26:13 be-3 kernel: nfs server bluearc:/smtp: not responding Jul 3 00:26:17 be-3 last message repeated 4 times Jul 3 00:26:43 be-3 kernel: nfs server bluearc:/smtp: is alive again Jul 3 00:26:43 be-3 last message repeated 4 times Jul 3 06:06:19 be-3 kernel: nfs server bluearc:/smtp: not responding Jul 3 06:06:31 be-3 kernel: nfs server bluearc:/smtp: not responding Jul 3 06:06:32 be-3 kernel: nfs server bluearc:/smtp: is alive again Jul 3 06:06:32 be-3 kernel: nfs server bluearc:/smtp: is alive again Jul 3 06:06:32 be-3 kernel: nfs server bluearc:/smtp: not responding Jul 3 06:06:32 be-3 kernel: nfs server bluearc:/smtp: is alive again Jul 3 06:06:32 be-3 kernel: nfs server bluearc:/smtp: not responding Jul 3 06:06:32 be-3 kernel: nfs server bluearc:/smtp: is alive again Jul 3 06:06:32 be-3 kernel: nfs server bluearc:/smtp: not responding Jul 3 06:06:35 be-3 kernel: nfs server bluearc:/smtp: is alive again Jul 3 06:39:09 be-3 kernel: nfs server bluearc:/smtp: not responding Jul 3 06:39:11 be-3 last message repeated 8 times Jul 3 06:39:12 be-3 kernel: nfs server bluearc:/smtp: is alive again Jul 3 06:39:14 be-3 last message repeated 8 times My /etc/fstab looks like this: bluearc:/smtp /bluearc/smtp nfs rw,nfsv3,tcp,noauto,-w32768,-r32768,intr,nosuid 0 0 Output of NFS Stat looks like this: nfsstat Client Info: Rpc Counts: Getattr Setattr Lookup Readlink Read Write Create Remove 5838941 9856787 53208796 196 23086347 12329026 7210077 48313 Rename Link Symlink Mkdir Rmdir Readdir RdirPlus Access 7220894 0 0 89 75 3096988 0 74732115 Mknod Fsstat Fsinfo PathConf Commit 0 4311937 7 0 0 Rpc Info: TimedOut Invalid X Replies Retries Requests 0 0 0 412 200940588 Cache Info: Attr Hits Misses Lkup Hits Misses BioR Hits Misses BioW Hits Misses 633693347 52472488 394292901 53208796 86802445 23086337 35572967 12329026 BioRLHits Misses BioD Hits Misses DirE Hits Misses 60679022 196 5566347 3097022 4311900 18 uname -a FreeBSD be-3 5.4-RELEASE FreeBSD 5.4-RELEASE #2: Mon Jun 20 20:20:21 MDT 2005 root@be-3:/usr/src/sys/i386/compile/MYKERNEL i386 Any help you guys can provide is appreciated. Brandon From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jul 5 17:24:50 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 684A516A41C for ; Tue, 5 Jul 2005 17:24:50 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ml@t-b-o-h.net) Received: from vjofn.tucs-beachin-obx-house.com (vjofn.tucs-beachin-obx-house.com [204.107.90.128]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 299B343D49 for ; Tue, 5 Jul 2005 17:24:50 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ml@t-b-o-h.net) Received: from himinbjorg.tucs-beachin-obx-house.com (ool-44c511d8.dyn.optonline.net [68.197.17.216]) (authenticated bits=128) by vjofn.tucs-beachin-obx-house.com (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id j65HLPXE016362 for ; Tue, 5 Jul 2005 13:21:25 -0400 (EDT) Received: from himinbjorg.tucs-beachin-obx-house.com (localhost.tucs-beachin-obx-house.com [127.0.0.1]) by himinbjorg.tucs-beachin-obx-house.com (8.13.3/8.12.10) with ESMTP id j65Gxm8b009273 for ; Tue, 5 Jul 2005 12:59:48 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from ml@t-b-o-h.net) Received: (from tbohml@localhost) by himinbjorg.tucs-beachin-obx-house.com (8.13.3/8.13.1/Submit) id j65GxmAK009272 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Tue, 5 Jul 2005 12:59:48 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from tbohml) From: Tuc at T-B-O-H Message-Id: <200507051659.j65GxmAK009272@himinbjorg.tucs-beachin-obx-house.com> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Tue, 5 Jul 2005 12:59:48 -0400 (EDT) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.5 PL6] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: UDP issues over 2K X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 05 Jul 2005 17:24:50 -0000 Hi, Working with the people doing the INN port, they are complaining as follows : I wrote a little test program to try sending a packet over a Unix datagram socket. The test program is included below. I ran it on: Debian GNU/Linux (2.4 kernel) Solaris 8 IRIX 6.5 Tru64 4.0F AIX 5.2 FreeBSD 5.4 All of them handled 8KB packet sizes without any trouble except for Tru64 and FreeBSD, which can't handle a byte over 2KB. So I'm afraid that INN is running into (stupidly low) OS-imposed limits that there's no way around without major surgery in how ctlinnd talks to innd. #include #include #include #include #include #define SIZE (8 * 1024) static void server(void) { int in; struct sockaddr_un server; char buffer[SIZE]; size_t i; ssize_t result; fd_set readfds; in = socket(AF_UNIX, SOCK_DGRAM, 0); if (in < 0) { perror("socket"); exit(1); } memset(&server, 0, sizeof(server)); server.sun_family = AF_UNIX; strcpy(server.sun_path, "sock-s"); if (bind(in, (struct sockaddr *) &server, sizeof(server)) < 0) { perror("bind"); exit(1); } FD_ZERO(&readfds); FD_SET(in, &readfds); if (select(in + 1, &readfds, NULL, NULL, NULL) <= 0) { perror("select"); exit(1); } result = recv(in, buffer, sizeof(buffer), 0); if (result < (ssize_t) sizeof(buffer)) { fprintf(stderr, "Only got %ld bytes\n", (long) result); exit(1); } for (i = 0; i < SIZE - 1; i++) if (buffer[i] != 1) { fprintf(stderr, "Bad data at %lu", (unsigned long) i); exit(1); } if (buffer[i] != 2) { fprintf(stderr, "Bad data at %lu", (unsigned long) i); exit(1); } exit(0); } static void client(void) { int out; struct sockaddr_un server; char buffer[SIZE]; ssize_t result; memset(buffer, 1, sizeof(buffer)); buffer[sizeof(buffer) - 1] = 2; out = socket(AF_UNIX, SOCK_DGRAM, 0); memset(&server, 0, sizeof(server)); server.sun_family = AF_UNIX; strcpy(server.sun_path, "sock-s"); if (sendto(out, buffer, sizeof(buffer), 0, (struct sockaddr *) &server, sizeof(server)) < 0) { perror("sendto"); exit(1); } exit(0); } int main(void) { pid_t child; child = fork(); if (child < 0) { perror("fork"); exit(1); } else if (child == 0) { sleep(1); client(); } else { server(); } return 0; } Is this an issue that they aren't doing something right, or is it a config error on my part, or just an OS limitation? Thanks, Tuc From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jul 5 17:30:19 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2D54216A41C for ; Tue, 5 Jul 2005 17:30:19 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ws@au.dyndns.ws) Received: from smtp1.adl2.internode.on.net (smtp1.adl2.internode.on.net [203.16.214.181]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A461543D49 for ; Tue, 5 Jul 2005 17:30:18 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ws@au.dyndns.ws) Received: from lillith-iv.ovirt.dyndns.ws (ppp103-111.static.internode.on.net [150.101.103.111]) by smtp1.adl2.internode.on.net (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id j65HUGpL042182 for ; Wed, 6 Jul 2005 03:00:17 +0930 (CST) X-Envelope-From: ws@au.dyndns.ws X-Envelope-To: Received: from [192.168.1.194] ([192.168.1.194]) by lillith-iv.ovirt.dyndns.ws (8.13.3/8.13.3) with ESMTP id j65HTwGg068768 for ; Wed, 6 Jul 2005 02:59:58 +0930 (CST) (envelope-from ws@au.dyndns.ws) From: Wayne Sierke To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain Date: Wed, 06 Jul 2005 02:59:57 +0930 Message-Id: <1120584597.57575.51.camel@au.dyndns.ws> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.2.2 FreeBSD GNOME Team Port Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.51 on 192.168.1.142 X-Scanned-By: SpamAssassin 3.000003(2005-04-27) X-Scanned-By: F-Prot X-Scanned-By: ClamAV X-Spam-Score: -2.82 () ALL_TRUSTED Subject: squid bind to port 80 fails when started via squid.sh script X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 05 Jul 2005 17:30:19 -0000 FreeBSD 5.4-RELEASE/squid-2.5.9_3 If I start squid via the script (as root), I get: /var/log/squid_cache.log: commBind: Cannot bind socket FD 11 to *:80: (13) Permission denied FATAL: Cannot open HTTP Port Squid Cache (Version 2.5.STABLE9): Terminated abnormally. However, starting it as: # /usr/local/sbin/squid -D appears to be working (starting) fine. Could this be a bug with the squid script or executable or have I missed something? In squid.conf all settings are at install defaults except for: http_port 80 cache_dir ufs /var/squid/cache 100 16 256 cache_access_log /var/log/squid_access.log cache_log /var/log/squid_cache.log cache_store_log /var/log/squid_store.log pid_filename /var/run/squid.pid httpd_accel_host virtual httpd_accel_port 81 Thanks, Wayne From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jul 5 17:34:17 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4DF0F16A41C for ; Tue, 5 Jul 2005 17:34:17 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from bryan.maynard@reallm.com) Received: from hosting.sourcit.net (mail3.eitsolutions.net [68.23.20.100]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F117343D48 for ; Tue, 5 Jul 2005 17:34:16 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from bryan.maynard@reallm.com) Received: (qmail 29903 invoked from network); 5 Jul 2005 12:34:16 -0500 Received: from al1-24.207.169.154.charter-stl.com (HELO ?192.168.1.100?) (24.207.169.154) by hosting.sourcit.net with SMTP; 5 Jul 2005 12:34:16 -0500 From: Bryan Maynard Organization: Sofos Nikitis To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Tue, 5 Jul 2005 12:33:29 +0000 User-Agent: KMail/1.8 References: <200507031500.35157.bryan.maynard@reallm.com> In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200507051233.29894.bryan.maynard@reallm.com> Subject: Re: FreeBSD 5.4 ndis support X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 05 Jul 2005 17:34:17 -0000 On Tuesday 05 July 2005 08:25 am, Tobias Tom wrote: >> Anyway, there is a utility in 5.4 (I think that's that's where it showed >>up) >> called "ndisgen". Running ndisgen steps you through a wonderful little >>script >> that asks for for the location of your INF and SYS files, generates you .h >> file and kernel module. >I did that ... thank you very much ... it generated a rt2500_sys.ko .. >and that could be loaded by hand. No problem, glad I could help! :-D >Now I have just the Problem left that it does not work when i try to >load it on boot. Is there anything I have to do except copy that file >to /boot/kernel and enter load_rt200_sys="yes" to loader.conf? As long as you're not using DHCP that should work fine. I'm actually trying to get my Linksys WPC11 ver.4 to load at boot and grap an IP through DHCP, but I don't think it's possible (if anyone has any ideas on this I'd love to hear them :-)). If you can assign a static IP to your wireless card through your router you should be fine. Just bind your wireless car's MAC address (found using "ifconfig -a" and looking for the "ether" property of the "ndis0" device) to your chosen IP address using your router (if your router can hand out static IPs it should be able to map those static Ips to a MAC address). If you have any problems, or questions, please provide your router's model number and we'll do some research. . . You could also try putting your chosen static IP address in your kernel's .hints file (if you're using the GENERIC kernel it'll be GENERIC.hints). I'm not sure what the syntax for that would be though. . . might be something fun to experiment with :-D >> I was getting the same "No such file or directory" error until I ran >>ndisgen. >Maybe you could try kldload ./. That worked here. >And after all, I saw that inside the manual is written down that only >prism chipset cards are supported to run as an access point. Is that >still correct? Or is there any change to get it run. The Interface >seems to work now. When I try to use wicontrol it tells me "wicontrol: >SIOCGWAVELAN: Device not configured". Please tell me that my card will >work, too ;o) >Thanks for your Help >Regards >Tobias _______________________________________________ >freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list >http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions >To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" If you have any more questions please feel free to ask. Bryan -- Open Source: by the people, for the people. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jul 5 17:39:10 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ABE3916A41C for ; Tue, 5 Jul 2005 17:39:10 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from cswiger@mac.com) Received: from pi.codefab.com (pi.codefab.com [199.103.21.227]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7B68D43D45 for ; Tue, 5 Jul 2005 17:39:10 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from cswiger@mac.com) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pi.codefab.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D32155D1F; Tue, 5 Jul 2005 13:39:09 -0400 (EDT) Received: from pi.codefab.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (pi.codefab.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 06145-03; Tue, 5 Jul 2005 13:38:59 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [192.168.1.3] (pool-68-161-54-113.ny325.east.verizon.net [68.161.54.113]) by pi.codefab.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 57DD45C69; Tue, 5 Jul 2005 13:38:59 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <42CAC5B3.6070400@mac.com> Date: Tue, 05 Jul 2005 13:38:59 -0400 From: Chuck Swiger Organization: The Courts of Chaos User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.8) Gecko/20050511 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Wayne Sierke References: <1120584597.57575.51.camel@au.dyndns.ws> In-Reply-To: <1120584597.57575.51.camel@au.dyndns.ws> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at codefab.com Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: squid bind to port 80 fails when started via squid.sh script X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 05 Jul 2005 17:39:10 -0000 Wayne Sierke wrote: > FreeBSD 5.4-RELEASE/squid-2.5.9_3 > > If I start squid via the script (as root), I get: > > /var/log/squid_cache.log: > > commBind: Cannot bind socket FD 11 to *:80: (13) Permission denied > FATAL: Cannot open HTTP Port > Squid Cache (Version 2.5.STABLE9): Terminated abnormally. The squid startup script probably changes to a non-root user before running the squid binary, which means that squid cannot bind to a port below 1024. Normally, people run squid on port 3128, although 8080 is also relatively common. -- -Chuck From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jul 5 17:56:06 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7DF9B16A424 for ; Tue, 5 Jul 2005 17:56:06 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from gayn.winters@mail.bristolsystems.com) Received: from dns.bristolsystems.com (h-68-167-239-98.lsanca54.covad.net [68.167.239.98]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 55FBA43D48 for ; Tue, 5 Jul 2005 17:56:06 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from gayn.winters@mail.bristolsystems.com) Received: from workdog ([192.168.1.201]) by dns.bristolsystems.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id j65Hu5g10078; Tue, 5 Jul 2005 10:56:05 -0700 From: "Gayn Winters" To: "'Olga Zenkova'" , Date: Tue, 5 Jul 2005 10:55:56 -0700 Message-ID: <03f301c5818a$ce7214a0$c901a8c0@workdog> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.4024 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 In-Reply-To: <20050703104228.16743.qmail@web50902.mail.yahoo.com> Importance: Normal Cc: Subject: RE: integrated SATA RAID controller on Intel server board SE7520bd2 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 05 Jul 2005 17:56:06 -0000 > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > [mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org] On Behalf Of Olga Zenkova > Sent: Sunday, July 03, 2005 3:42 AM > To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > Subject: Re: integrated SATA RAID controller on Intel server > board SE7520bd2 > Regarding multiple posts on the current ata driver in 5.4 not supporting hardware mirroring with the Intel ICH5R and ICH6R chips ... My 2 cents is to use gmirror for software mirroring as is described in http://dannyman.toldme.com/2005/01/24/freebsd-howto-gmirror-system/ There is another method, which I have also used, that has the advantage of not needing to go into Fixit mode using the 5.4 boot CD (hence it can be executed remotely); however, it takes more typing and more reboots. It is described here: http://people.freebsd.org/~rse/mirror/ If you use the latter, note that Ralf uses ATA drives ad0 and ad1, while your SATA configuration will probably come up as ad4 and ad6. You need to make the transliteration 0 --> 4 and 1 --> 6 very carefully, especially in the line for the boot loader where ad(1,a) --> ad(6,a). This latter paper also outlines how to mirror at the slice, rather than the disk, level. One final hint: if you are playing around with gmirror on the same disks, you can get into a situation where one attempt has left gmirror information on the last sector of your disks. This will confuse gmirror, and you will have to load and use gmirror to clear it out. Read the man pages on gmirror in any case!!! Best of luck, -gayn From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jul 5 18:00:05 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2A6D416A41C for ; Tue, 5 Jul 2005 18:00:05 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from mpsouza@centroin.com.br) Received: from gorgo.centroin.com.br (gorgo.centroin.com.br [200.225.63.128]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8A1B743D5D for ; Tue, 5 Jul 2005 18:00:02 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from mpsouza@centroin.com.br) Received: from hypselo.centroin.com.br (hypselo.centroin.com.br [200.225.63.1]) by gorgo.centroin.com.br (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id j65HxxDt010447; Tue, 5 Jul 2005 14:59:59 -0300 (EST) Date: Tue, 5 Jul 2005 14:59:55 -0300 (EST) From: Sender: To: Hornet In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: QUOTED-PRINTABLE Cc: FreeBSD questions Subject: Re: Where is the memory X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: scuba@centroin.com.br List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 05 Jul 2005 18:00:05 -0000 Hi, On Mon, 4 Jul 2005, Hornet wrote: |In top, if you type in "u" it will prompt you for an account which you |can monitor the processes and mem. Of course, this will not work for |apps that are opened under different credentials. =09And does not change the amount of total free memory. =09My problem is that I think something in the system is allocating memory and not releasing it. =09The same applications used to run on a Freebsd 4.7 BOX with 1GB RAM, and only in some few cases had to swap out. =09Now, I=B4m moving to another machine with 2GB RAM, and I=B4m seeing where is the extra memory. I expected to have more free memory now. - Marcelo Souza |On 7/4/05, scuba@centroin.com.br wrote: |> Hi, |> |> How can I track where/who is using the system memory? |> |> I have a 2GB (RAM) system running Freebsd 5.4, basically as a ma= il |> gateway. |> |> After a few hours up, TOP shows me about 300MB of free memory. N= o |> swap yet. |> |> But the sum of RSS column of "ps axum", gives me about 600MB use= d. |> I know that kernel allocated memory doesn=B4t show in ps, but I |> think it=B4s not using 1.4GB. |> |> The head of top is like this: |> |> last pid: 7323; load averages: 1.49, 1.11, 1.30 up 4+05:57:30 19:= 01:05 |> 184 processes: 1 running, 183 sleeping |> CPU states: 16.7% user, 0.0% nice, 3.5% system, 0.6% interrupt, 79.3%= idle |> Mem: 333M Active, 1218M Inact, 157M Wired, 42M Cache, 112M Buf, 256M Fre= e |> Swap: 8192M Total, 8192M Free |> |> Also, why there is a difference between free memory reported by |> top and vmstat? |> |> Could it have some memory leak? Is there any report of it in |> freebsd 5.x? |> |> Thank you, |> |> - Marcelo |> |> |> _______________________________________________ |> freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list |> http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions |> To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.= org" |> |_______________________________________________ |freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list |http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions |To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.or= g" | - Marcelo From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jul 5 18:14:20 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 12ED316A41C for ; Tue, 5 Jul 2005 18:14:20 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from perikillo@gmail.com) Received: from rproxy.gmail.com (rproxy.gmail.com [64.233.170.198]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8CD1143D45 for ; Tue, 5 Jul 2005 18:14:19 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from perikillo@gmail.com) Received: by rproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id r35so925582rna for ; Tue, 05 Jul 2005 11:14:19 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=uLd2bMd/XqrOSUTXge9XkxGfSTFhQFcmGVE0mHPUtxH1uiEPSsrzWOpvJO3qLA5dvq550YPdKXOVwNkj7rn4nhi9QbqzG9vxaLruVPMaP4Gtmfu0AA0wmNDYEW9kdYgDOR5mhxnH491Jl3lAqWRi3SKO0E8Dsj8AE9EW+R5kiOc= Received: by 10.38.67.3 with SMTP id p3mr4229501rna; Tue, 05 Jul 2005 11:14:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.38.98.73 with HTTP; Tue, 5 Jul 2005 11:14:18 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <51d7a51605070511145010ca70@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 5 Jul 2005 11:14:18 -0700 From: perikillo To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <51d7a5160506280002bdfa123@mail.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline References: <51d7a5160506280002bdfa123@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: Problems with xorg and my Keyboard? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: perikillo List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 05 Jul 2005 18:14:20 -0000 On 6/28/05, perikillo wrote: > This is the 3rd week i want to setup xorg on my fresh installation > of freebsd 5.4-Release, i have install this boy almost 5 times, right > now i have on the same computer 2 hard drives to test my problems with > xorg. >=20 > This is the history: >=20 > I read the handbook about setup X11 > --->5.4 X11 Configuration >=20 > If i test that two commands: >=20 > test# Xorg -configure > test# Xorg -config xorg.conf.new >=20 > The handbook say: >=20 > "If a black and grey grid and an X mouse cursor appear, the > configuration was successful. To exit the test, just press > Ctrl+Alt+Backspace simultaneously." >=20 > Here every thing is right, appear that, and my keyboard respond, > the Keypad works, i can press "Ctrl+Alt+Backspace" and return to my > shell. >=20 > This is the /root/xorg.conf.new file: >=20 > Section "ServerLayout" > Identifier "X.org Configured" > Screen 0 "Screen0" 0 0 > InputDevice "Mouse0" "CorePointer" > InputDevice "Keyboard0" "CoreKeyboard" > EndSection >=20 > Section "Files" > RgbPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/rgb" > ModulePath "/usr/X11R6/lib/modules" > FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/misc/" > FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/TTF/" > FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/Type1/" > FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/CID/" > FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi/" > FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi/" > EndSection >=20 > Section "Module" > Load "dbe" > Load "dri" > Load "extmod" > Load "glx" > Load "record" > Load "xtrap" > Load "freetype" > Load "type1" > EndSection >=20 > Section "InputDevice" > Identifier "Keyboard0" > Driver "kbd" > EndSection >=20 > Section "InputDevice" > Identifier "Mouse0" > Driver "mouse" > Option "Protocol" "auto" > Option "Device" "/dev/sysmouse" > EndSection >=20 > Section "Monitor" > Identifier "Monitor0" > VendorName "Monitor Vendor" > ModelName "Monitor Model" > HorizSync 30-70 > VertRefresh 50-140 > Option "DPMS" > EndSection >=20 > Section "Device" > ### Available Driver options are:- > ### Values: : integer, : float, : "True"/"False", > ### : "String", : " Hz/kHz/MHz" > ### [arg]: arg optional > #Option "SWcursor" # [] > #Option "RGBbits" # > #Option "NoAccel" # [] > #Option "BlockWrite" # [] > #Option "FireGL3000" # [] > #Option "Overlay" # [] > #Option "ShadowFB" # [] > #Option "UseFBDev" # [] > #Option "UseFlatPanel" # [] > #Option "VideoKey" # [] > Identifier "Card0" > Driver "glint" > VendorName "Texas Instruments" > BoardName "TVP4020 [Permedia 2]" > BusID "PCI:0:16:0" > EndSection >=20 > Section "Screen" > Identifier "Screen0" > Device "Card0" > Monitor "Monitor0" > DefaultDepth 24 > SubSection "Display" > Viewport 0 0 > Depth 1 > EndSubSection > SubSection "Display" > Viewport 0 0 > Depth 4 > EndSubSection > SubSection "Display" > Viewport 0 0 > Depth 8 > EndSubSection > SubSection "Display" > Viewport 0 0 > Depth 15 > EndSubSection > SubSection "Display" > Viewport 0 0 > Depth 16 > EndSubSection > SubSection "Display" > Viewport 0 0 > Depth 24 > Modes "1024x768" > EndSubSection > EndSection >=20 > This is my X.org.0.log with this setup: >=20 > _XSERVTransSocketOpenCOTSServer: Unable to open socket for inet6 > _XSERVTransOpen: transport open failed for inet6/devhora:0 > _XSERVTransMakeAllCOTSServerListeners: failed to open listener for inet6 >=20 > X Window System Version 6.8.2 > Release Date: 9 February 2005 > X Protocol Version 11, Revision 0, Release 6.8.2 > Build Operating System: FreeBSD 5.4 i386 [ELF] > Current Operating System: FreeBSD devhora 5.4-RELEASE-p2 FreeBSD > 5.4-RELEASE-p2 #0: Sat Jun 25 07:30:12 PDT 2005 > root@devhora:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/DEVHORA i386 > Build Date: 04 April 2005 > Before reporting problems, check http://wiki.X.Org > to make sure that you have the latest version. > Module Loader present > Markers: (--) probed, (**) from config file, (=3D=3D) default setting, > (++) from command line, (!!) notice, (II) informational, > (WW) warning, (EE) error, (NI) not implemented, (??) unknown. > (=3D=3D) Log file: "/var/log/Xorg.0.log", Time: Mon Jun 27 23:09:14 2005 > (++) Using config file: "/root/xorg.conf.new" > (=3D=3D) ServerLayout "X.org Configured" > (**) |-->Screen "Screen0" (0) > (**) | |-->Monitor "Monitor0" > (**) | |-->Device "Card0" > (**) |-->Input Device "Mouse0" > (**) |-->Input Device "Keyboard0" > (WW) The directory "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/CID/" does not exist. > Entry deleted from font path. > (**) FontPath set to > "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/misc/,/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/TTF/,/usr/X11R6/= lib/X11/fonts/Type1/,/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi/,/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fon= ts/100dpi/" > (**) RgbPath set to "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/rgb" > (**) ModulePath set to "/usr/X11R6/lib/modules" > (II) Module ABI versions: > X.Org ANSI C Emulation: 0.2 > X.Org Video Driver: 0.7 > X.Org XInput driver : 0.4 > X.Org Server Extension : 0.2 > X.Org Font Renderer : 0.4 > (II) Loader running on freebsd > (II) LoadModule: "bitmap" > (II) Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/fonts/libbitmap.a > (II) Module bitmap: vendor=3D"X.Org Foundation" > compiled for 6.8.2, module version =3D 1.0.0 > Module class: X.Org Font Renderer > ABI class: X.Org Font Renderer, version 0.4 > (II) Loading font Bitmap > (II) LoadModule: "pcidata" > (II) Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/libpcidata.a > (II) Module pcidata: vendor=3D"X.Org Foundation" > compiled for 6.8.2, module version =3D 1.0.0 > ABI class: X.Org Video Driver, version 0.7 > (--) Using syscons driver with X support (version 2.0) > (--) using VT number 4 >=20 > (II) PCI: Probing config type using method 1 > (II) PCI: Config type is 1 > (II) PCI: stages =3D 0x03, oldVal1 =3D 0x00000000, mode1Res1 =3D 0x800000= 00 > (II) PCI: PCI scan (all values are in hex) > (II) PCI: 00:00:0: chip 8086,7190 card 0000,0000 rev 02 class 06,00,00 hd= r 00 > (II) PCI: 00:01:0: chip 8086,7191 card 0000,0000 rev 02 class 06,04,00 hd= r 01 > (II) PCI: 00:07:0: chip 8086,7110 card 0000,0000 rev 02 class 06,01,00 hd= r 80 > (II) PCI: 00:07:1: chip 8086,7111 card 0000,0000 rev 01 class 01,01,80 hd= r 00 > (II) PCI: 00:07:2: chip 8086,7112 card 0000,0000 rev 01 class 0c,03,00 hd= r 00 > (II) PCI: 00:07:3: chip 8086,7113 card 0000,0000 rev 02 class 06,80,00 hd= r 00 > (II) PCI: 00:0f:0: chip 10b7,9050 card 0000,0000 rev 00 class 02,00,00 hd= r 00 > (II) PCI: 00:10:0: chip 104c,3d07 card 1092,0126 rev 01 class 03,00,00 hd= r 00 > (II) PCI: 00:14:0: chip 1073,000d card 1073,000d rev 03 class 04,01,00 hd= r 00 > (II) PCI: End of PCI scan > (II) Host-to-PCI bridge: > (II) Bus 0: bridge is at (0:0:0), (0,0,1), BCTRL: 0x0008 (VGA_EN is set) > (II) Bus 0 I/O range: > [0] -1 0 0x00000000 - 0x0000ffff (0x10000) IX[B] > (II) Bus 0 non-prefetchable memory range: > [0] -1 0 0x00000000 - 0xffffffff (0x0) MX[B] > (II) Bus 0 prefetchable memory range: > [0] -1 0 0x00000000 - 0xffffffff (0x0) MX[B] > (II) PCI-to-PCI bridge: > (II) Bus 1: bridge is at (0:1:0), (0,1,1), BCTRL: 0x0080 (VGA_EN is clear= ed) > (II) Bus 1 I/O range: > [0] -1 0 0x0000d000 - 0x0000dfff (0x1000) IX[B] > (II) Bus 1 non-prefetchable memory range: > [0] -1 0 0xfca00000 - 0xfcafffff (0x100000) MX[B] > (II) Bus 1 prefetchable memory range: > [0] -1 0 0xf4800000 - 0xf48fffff (0x100000) MX[B] > (II) PCI-to-ISA bridge: > (II) Bus -1: bridge is at (0:7:0), (0,-1,-1), BCTRL: 0x0008 (VGA_EN is se= t) > (--) PCI:*(0:16:0) Texas Instruments TVP4020 [Permedia 2] rev 1, Mem @ > 0xfebe0000/17, 0xfe000000/23, 0xfd800000/23, BIOS @ 0xfebd0000/16 > (II) Addressable bus resource ranges are > [0] -1 0 0x00000000 - 0xffffffff (0x0) MX[B] > [1] -1 0 0x00000000 - 0x0000ffff (0x10000) IX[B] > (II) OS-reported resource ranges: > [0] -1 0 0xffe00000 - 0xffffffff (0x200000) MX[B](B) > [1] -1 0 0x00100000 - 0x3fffffff (0x3ff00000) MX[B]E(B) > [2] -1 0 0x000f0000 - 0x000fffff (0x10000) MX[B] > [3] -1 0 0x000c0000 - 0x000effff (0x30000) MX[B] > [4] -1 0 0x00000000 - 0x0009ffff (0xa0000) MX[B] > [5] -1 0 0x0000ffff - 0x0000ffff (0x1) IX[B] > [6] -1 0 0x00000000 - 0x000000ff (0x100) IX[B] > (II) PCI Memory resource overlap reduced 0xf8000000 from 0xffffffff to > 0xf7ffffff > (II) Active PCI resource ranges: > [0] -1 0 0xfebb8000 - 0xfebbffff (0x8000) MX[B]E > [1] -1 0 0xf8000000 - 0xf7ffffff (0x0) MX[B]EO > [2] -1 0 0xfebd0000 - 0xfebdffff (0x10000) MX[B](B) > [3] -1 0 0xfd800000 - 0xfdffffff (0x800000) MX[B](B) > [4] -1 0 0xfe000000 - 0xfe7fffff (0x800000) MX[B](B) > [5] -1 0 0xfebe0000 - 0xfebfffff (0x20000) MX[B](B) > [6] -1 0 0x0000ef00 - 0x0000efff (0x100) IX[B]E > [7] -1 0 0x0000ef80 - 0x0000efff 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=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6= =F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6= =F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6= =F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6= =F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6ading > extension SHAPE > (II) Loading extension MIT-SUNDRY-NONSTANDARD > (II) Loading extension BIG-REQUESTS > (II) Loading extension SYNC > (II) Loading extension MIT-SCREEN-SAVER > (II) Loading extension XC-MISC > (II) Loading extension XFree86-VidModeExtension > (II) Loading extension XFree86-Misc > (II) Loading extension XFree86-DGA > (II) Loading extension DPMS > (II) Loading extension TOG-CUP > (II) Loading extension Extended-Visual-Information > (II) Loading extension XVideo > (II) Loading extension XVideo-MotionCompensation > (II) Loading extension X-Resource > (II) LoadModule: "glx" > (II) Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/extensions/libglx.a > (II) Module glx: vendor=3D"X.Org Foundation" > compiled for 6.8.2, module version =3D 1.0.0 > ABI class: X.Org Server Extension, version 0.2 > (II) Loading sub module "GLcore" > (II) LoadModule: "GLcore" > (II) Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/extensions/libGLcore.a > (II) Module GLcore: vendor=3D"X.Org Foundation" > compiled for 6.8.2, module version =3D 1.0.0 > ABI class: X.Org Server Extension, version 0.2 > (II) Loading extension GLX > (II) LoadModule: "record" > (II) Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/extensions/librecord.a > (II) Module record: vendor=3D"X.Org Foundation" > compiled for 6.8.2, module version =3D 1.13.0 > Module class: X.Org Server Extension > ABI class: X.Org Server Extension, version 0.2 > (II) Loading extension RECORD > (II) LoadModule: "xtrap" > (II) Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/extensions/libxtrap.a > (II) Module xtrap: vendor=3D"X.Org Foundation" > compiled for 6.8.2, module version =3D 1.0.0 > Module class: X.Org Server Extension > ABI class: X.Org Server Extension, version 0.2 > (II) Loading extension DEC-XTRAP > (II) LoadModule: "freetype" > (II) Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/fonts/libfreetype.so > (II) Module freetype: vendor=3D"X.Org Foundation & the After X-TT Project= " > compiled for 6.8.2, module version =3D 2.1.0 > Module class: X.Org Font Renderer > ABI class: X.Org Font Renderer, version 0.4 > (II) Loading font FreeType > (II) LoadModule: "type1" > (II) Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/fonts/libtype1.a > (II) Module type1: vendor=3D"X.Org Foundation" > compiled for 6.8.2, module version =3D 1.0.2 > Module class: X.Org Font Renderer > ABI class: X.Org Font Renderer, version 0.4 > (II) Loading font Type1 > (II) Loading font CID > (II) LoadModule: "glint" > (II) Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/drivers/glint_drv.o > (II) Module glint: vendor=3D"X.Org Foundation" > compiled for 6.8.2, module version =3D 1.0.0 > Module class: X.Org Video Driver > ABI class: X.Org Video Driver, version 0.7 > (II) LoadModule: "mouse" > (II) Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/input/mouse_drv.o > (II) Module mouse: vendor=3D"X.Org Foundation" > compiled for 6.8.2, module version =3D 1.0.0 > Module class: X.Org XInput Driver > ABI class: X.Org XInput driver, version 0.4 > (II) LoadModule: "kbd" > (II) Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/input/kbd_drv.o > (II) Module kbd: vendor=3D"X.Org Foundation" > compiled for 6.8.2, module version =3D 1.0.0 > Module class: X.Org XInput Driver > ABI class: X.Org XInput driver, version 0.4 > (II) GLINT: driver for 3Dlabs chipsets: gamma, gamma2, ti_pm2, ti_pm, r4, > pm4, pm3, pm2v, pm2, pm, 300sx, 500tx, mx, delta > (II) Primary Device is: PCI 00:10:0 > (--) Chipset ti_pm2 found > (II) resource ranges after xf86ClaimFixedResources() call: > [0] -1 0 0xffe00000 - 0xffffffff (0x200000) MX[B](B) > [1] -1 0 0x00100000 - 0x3fffffff (0x3ff00000) MX[B]E(B) > [2] -1 0 0x000f0000 - 0x000fffff (0x10000) MX[B] > [3] -1 0 0x000c0000 - 0x000effff (0x30000) MX[B] > [4] -1 0 0x00000000 - 0x0009ffff (0xa0000) MX[B] > [5] -1 0 0xfebb8000 - 0xfebbffff (0x8000) MX[B]E > [6] -1 0 0xf8000000 - 0xf7ffffff (0x0) MX[B]EO > [7] -1 0 0xfebd0000 - 0xfebdffff (0x10000) MX[B](B) > [8] -1 0 0xfd800000 - 0xfdffffff (0x800000) MX[B](B) > [9] -1 0 0xfe000000 - 0xfe7fffff (0x800000) MX[B](B) > [10] -1 0 0xfebe0000 - 0xfebfffff (0x20000) MX[B](B) > [11] -1 0 0x0000ffff - 0x0000ffff (0x1) IX[B] > [12] -1 0 0x00000000 - 0x000000ff (0x100) IX[B] > [13] -1 0 0x0000ef00 - 0x0000ef7f (0x80) IX[B]E > [14] -1 0 0x0000ef80 - 0x0000efff (0x80) IX[B]E > [15] -1 0 0x0000ffa0 - 0x0000ffbf (0x20) IX[B]E > (II) resource ranges after probing: > [0] -1 0 0xffe00000 - 0xffffffff (0x200000) MX[B](B) > [1] -1 0 0x00100000 - 0x3fffffff (0x3ff00000) MX[B]E(B) > [2] -1 0 0x000f0000 - 0x000fffff (0x10000) MX[B] > [3] -1 0 0x000c0000 - 0x000effff (0x30000) MX[B] > [4] -1 0 0x00000000 - 0x0009ffff (0xa0000) MX[B] > [5] -1 0 0xfebb8000 - 0xfebbffff (0x8000) MX[B]E > [6] -1 0 0xf8000000 - 0xf7ffffff (0x0) MX[B]EO > [7] -1 0 0xfebd0000 - 0xfebdffff (0x10000) MX[B](B) > [8] -1 0 0xfd800000 - 0xfdffffff (0x800000) MX[B](B) > [9] -1 0 0xfe000000 - 0xfe7fffff (0x800000) MX[B](B) > [10] -1 0 0xfebe0000 - 0xfebfffff (0x20000) MX[B](B) > [11] 0 0 0x000a0000 - 0x000affff (0x10000) MS[B] > [12] 0 0 0x000b0000 - 0x000b7fff (0x8000) MS[B] > [13] 0 0 0x000b8000 - 0x000bffff (0x8000) MS[B] > [14] -1 0 0x0000ffff - 0x0000ffff (0x1) IX[B] > [15] -1 0 0x00000000 - 0x000000ff (0x100) IX[B] > [16] -1 0 0x0000ef00 - 0x0000ef7f (0x80) IX[B]E > [17] -1 0 0x0000ef80 - 0x0000efff (0x80) IX[B]E > [18] -1 0 0x0000ffa0 - 0x0000ffbf (0x20) IX[B]E > [19] 0 0 0x000003b0 - 0x000003bb (0xc) IS[B] > [20] 0 0 0x000003c0 - 0x000003df (0x20) IS[B] > (II) Setting vga for screen 0. > (**) GLINT(0): Depth 24, (--) framebuffer bpp 32 > (=3D=3D) GLINT(0): RGB weight 888 > (=3D=3D) GLINT(0): Default visual is TrueColor > (=3D=3D) GLINT(0): Using gamma correction (1.0, 1.0, 1.0) > (=3D=3D) GLINT(0): Using HW cursor > (--) GLINT(0): Not using Linux framebuffer device > (--) GLINT(0): Chipset: "ti_pm2" > (--) GLINT(0): Linear framebuffer at 0xFD800000 > (--) GLINT(0): MMIO registers at 0xFEBE0000 > (=3D=3D) GLINT(0): Write-combining range (0xfebe0000,0x20000) was already= clear > (=3D=3D) GLINT(0): Write-combining range (0xfebe0000,0x20000) was already= clear > (--) GLINT(0): VideoRAM: 8192 kByte > (II) Loading sub module "ramdac" > (II) LoadModule: "ramdac" > (II) Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/libramdac.a > (II) Module ramdac: vendor=3D"X.Org Foundation" > compiled for 6.8.2, module version =3D 0.1.0 > ABI class: X.Org Video Driver, version 0.7 > (--) GLINT(0): FIFO Size is 256 DWORDS > (=3D=3D) GLINT(0): Min pixel clock is 16 MHz > (--) GLINT(0): Max pixel clock is 110 MHz > (II) GLINT(0): Monitor0: Using hsync range of 30.00-70.00 kHz > (II) GLINT(0): Monitor0: Using vrefresh range of 50.00-140.00 Hz > (II) GLINT(0): Clock range: 16.25 to 110.00 MHz > (II) GLINT(0): Not using default mode "320x175" (bad mode > clock/interlace/doublescan) > (II) GLINT(0): Not using default mode "320x200" (bad mode > clock/interlace/doublescan) > (II) GLINT(0): Not using default mode "360x200" (bad mode > clock/interlace/doublescan) > (II) GLINT(0): Not using default mode "320x240" (bad mode > clock/interlace/doublescan) > (II) GLINT(0): Not using default mode "320x240" (bad mode > clock/interlace/doublescan) > (II) GLINT(0): Not using default mode "320x240" (bad mode > clock/interlace/doublescan) > (II) GLINT(0): Not using default mode "320x240" (bad mode > clock/interlace/doublescan) > (II) GLINT(0): Not using default mode "400x300" (bad mode > clock/interlace/doublescan) > (II) GLINT(0): Not using default mode "400x300" (bad mode > clock/interlace/doublescan) > (II) GLINT(0): Not using default mode "400x300" (bad mode > clock/interlace/doublescan) > (II) GLINT(0): Not using default mode "400x300" (bad mode > clock/interlace/doublescan) > (II) GLINT(0): Not using default mode "400x300" (bad mode > clock/interlace/doublescan) > (II) GLINT(0): Not using default mode "1024x768" (bad mode > clock/interlace/doublescan) > (II) GLINT(0): Not using default mode "512x384" (bad mode > clock/interlace/doublescan) > (II) GLINT(0): Not using default mode "512x384" (bad mode > clock/interlace/doublescan) > (II) GLINT(0): Not using default mode "512x384" (bad mode > clock/interlace/doublescan) > (II) GLINT(0): Not using default mode "512x384" (bad mode > clock/interlace/doublescan) > (II) GLINT(0): Not using default mode "512x384" (bad mode > clock/interlace/doublescan) > (II) GLINT(0): Not using default mode "576x432" (bad mode > clock/interlace/doublescan) > (II) GLINT(0): Not using default mode "640x480" (bad mode > clock/interlace/doublescan) > (II) GLINT(0): Not using default mode "1280x960" (bad mode > clock/interlace/doublescan) > (II) GLINT(0): Not using default mode "640x480" (bad mode > clock/interlace/doublescan) > (II) GLINT(0): Not using default mode "640x512" (bad mode > clock/interlace/doublescan) > (II) GLINT(0): Not using default mode "1280x1024" (bad mode > clock/interlace/doublescan) > (II) GLINT(0): Not using default mode "640x512" (bad mode > clock/interlace/doublescan) > (II) GLINT(0): Not using default mode "1280x1024" (bad mode > clock/interlace/doublescan) > (II) GLINT(0): Not using default mode "640x512" (bad mode > clock/interlace/doublescan) > (II) GLINT(0): Not using default mode "1600x1200" (bad mode > clock/interlace/doublescan) > (II) GLINT(0): Not using default mode "800x600" (bad mode > clock/interlace/doublescan) > (II) GLINT(0): Not using default mode "1600x1200" (bad mode > clock/interlace/doublescan) > (II) GLINT(0): Not using default mode "800x600" (bad mode > clock/interlace/doublescan) > (II) GLINT(0): Not using default mode "1600x1200" (bad mode > clock/interlace/doublescan) > (II) GLINT(0): Not using default mode "800x600" (bad mode > clock/interlace/doublescan) > (II) GLINT(0): Not using default mode "1600x1200" (bad mode > clock/interlace/doublescan) > (II) GLINT(0): Not using default mode "800x600" (bad mode > clock/interlace/doublescan) > (II) GLINT(0): Not using default mode "1600x1200" (bad mode > clock/interlace/doublescan) > (II) GLINT(0): Not using default mode "800x600" (bad mode > clock/interlace/doublescan) > (II) GLINT(0): Not using default mode "1792x1344" (insufficient memory fo= r mode) > (II) GLINT(0): Not using default mode "896x672" (bad mode > clock/interlace/doublescan) > (II) GLINT(0): Not using default mode "1792x1344" (insufficient memory fo= r mode) > (II) GLINT(0): Not using default mode "896x672" (bad mode > clock/interlace/doublescan) > (II) GLINT(0): Not using default mode "1856x1392" (insufficient memory fo= r mode) > (II) GLINT(0): Not using default mode "928x696" (bad mode > clock/interlace/doublescan) > (II) GLINT(0): Not using default mode "1856x1392" (insufficient memory fo= r mode) > (II) GLINT(0): Not using default mode "928x696" (bad mode > clock/interlace/doublescan) > (II) GLINT(0): Not using default mode "1920x1440" (insufficient memory fo= r mode) > (II) GLINT(0): Not using default mode "960x720" (bad mode > clock/interlace/doublescan) > (II) GLINT(0): Not using default mode "1920x1440" (insufficient memory fo= r mode) > (II) GLINT(0): Not using default mode "960x720" (bad mode > clock/interlace/doublescan) > (II) GLINT(0): Not using default mode "416x312" (bad mode > clock/interlace/doublescan) > (II) GLINT(0): Not using default mode "576x384" (bad mode > clock/interlace/doublescan) > (II) GLINT(0): Not using default mode "1400x1050" (bad mode > clock/interlace/doublescan) > (II) GLINT(0): Not using default mode "700x525" (bad mode > clock/interlace/doublescan) > (II) GLINT(0): Not using default mode "1400x1050" (bad mode > clock/interlace/doublescan) > (II) GLINT(0): Not using default mode "700x525" (bad mode > clock/interlace/doublescan) > (II) GLINT(0): Not using default mode "800x512" (bad mode > clock/interlace/doublescan) > (II) GLINT(0): Not using default mode "1920x1440" (insufficient memory fo= r mode) > (II) GLINT(0): Not using default mode "960x720" (bad mode > clock/interlace/doublescan) > (II) GLINT(0): Not using default mode "2048x1536" (insufficient memory fo= r mode) > (II) GLINT(0): Not using default mode "1024x768" (bad mode > clock/interlace/doublescan) > (II) GLINT(0): Not using default mode "2048x1536" (insufficient memory fo= r mode) > (II) GLINT(0): Not using default mode "1024x768" (bad mode > clock/interlace/doublescan) > (II) GLINT(0): Not using default mode "2048x1536" (insufficient memory fo= r mode) > (II) GLINT(0): Not using default mode "1024x768" (bad mode > clock/interlace/doublescan) > (II) GLINT(0): Not using default mode "1280x1024" (width too large for > virtual size) > (II) GLINT(0): Not using default mode "1280x960" (width too large for > virtual size) > (II) GLINT(0): Not using default mode "1152x864" (width too large for > virtual size) > (II) GLINT(0): Not using default mode "1152x768" (width too large for > virtual size) > (--) GLINT(0): Virtual size is 1024x768 (pitch 1024) > (**) GLINT(0): *Default mode "1024x768": 94.5 MHz, 68.7 kHz, 85.0 Hz > (II) GLINT(0): Modeline "1024x768" 94.50 1024 1072 1168 1376 768 > 769 772 808 +hsync +vsync > (**) GLINT(0): Default mode "1024x768": 78.8 MHz, 60.1 kHz, 75.1 Hz > (II) GLINT(0): Modeline "1024x768" 78.80 1024 1040 1136 1312 768 > 769 772 800 +hsync +vsync > (**) GLINT(0): Default mode "1024x768": 75.0 MHz, 56.5 kHz, 70.1 Hz > (II) GLINT(0): Modeline "1024x768" 75.00 1024 1048 1184 1328 768 > 771 777 806 -hsync -vsync > (**) GLINT(0): Default mode "1024x768": 65.0 MHz, 48.4 kHz, 60.0 Hz > (II) GLINT(0): Modeline "1024x768" 65.00 1024 1048 1184 1344 768 > 771 777 806 -hsync -vsync > (**) GLINT(0): Default mode "832x624": 57.3 MHz, 49.7 kHz, 74.6 Hz > (II) GLINT(0): Modeline "832x624" 57.28 832 864 928 1152 624 625 > 628 667 -hsync -vsync > (**) GLINT(0): Default mode "800x600": 56.3 MHz, 53.7 kHz, 85.1 Hz > (II) GLINT(0): Modeline "800x600" 56.30 800 832 896 1048 600 601 > 604 631 +hsync +vsync > (**) GLINT(0): Default mode "800x600": 49.5 MHz, 46.9 kHz, 75.0 Hz > (II) GLINT(0): Modeline "800x600" 49.50 800 816 896 1056 600 601 > 604 625 +hsync +vsync > (**) GLINT(0): Default mode "800x600": 50.0 MHz, 48.1 kHz, 72.2 Hz > (II) GLINT(0): Modeline "800x600" 50.00 800 856 976 1040 600 637 > 643 666 +hsync +vsync > (**) GLINT(0): Default mode "800x600": 40.0 MHz, 37.9 kHz, 60.3 Hz > (II) GLINT(0): Modeline "800x600" 40.00 800 840 968 1056 600 601 > 605 628 +hsync +vsync > (**) GLINT(0): Default mode "800x600": 36.0 MHz, 35.2 kHz, 56.2 Hz > (II) GLINT(0): Modeline "800x600" 36.00 800 824 896 1024 600 601 > 603 625 +hsync +vsync > (**) GLINT(0): Default mode "640x480": 36.0 MHz, 43.3 kHz, 85.0 Hz > (II) GLINT(0): Modeline "640x480" 36.00 640 696 752 832 480 481 > 484 509 -hsync -vsync > (**) GLINT(0): Default mode "640x480": 31.5 MHz, 37.5 kHz, 75.0 Hz > (II) GLINT(0): Modeline "640x480" 31.50 640 656 720 840 480 481 > 484 500 -hsync -vsync > (**) GLINT(0): Default mode "640x480": 31.5 MHz, 37.9 kHz, 72.8 Hz > (II) GLINT(0): Modeline "640x480" 31.50 640 664 704 832 480 489 > 491 520 -hsync -vsync > (**) GLINT(0): Default mode "640x480": 25.2 MHz, 31.5 kHz, 60.0 Hz > (II) GLINT(0): Modeline "640x480" 25.20 640 656 752 800 480 490 > 492 525 -hsync -vsync > (**) GLINT(0): Default mode "720x400": 35.5 MHz, 37.9 kHz, 85.0 Hz > (II) GLINT(0): Modeline "720x400" 35.50 720 756 828 936 400 401 > 404 446 -hsync +vsync > (**) GLINT(0): Default mode "640x400": 31.5 MHz, 37.9 kHz, 85.1 Hz > (II) GLINT(0): Modeline "640x400" 31.50 640 672 736 832 400 401 > 404 445 -hsync +vsync > (**) GLINT(0): Default mode "640x350": 31.5 MHz, 37.9 kHz, 85.1 Hz > (II) GLINT(0): Modeline "640x350" 31.50 640 672 736 832 350 382 > 385 445 +hsync -vsync > (=3D=3D) GLINT(0): DPI set to (75, 75) > (II) Loading sub module "fb" > (II) LoadModule: "fb" > (II) Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/libfb.a > (II) Module fb: vendor=3D"X.Org Foundation" > compiled for 6.8.2, module version =3D 1.0.0 > ABI class: X.Org ANSI C Emulation, version 0.2 > (II) Loading sub module "xaa" > (II) LoadModule: "xaa" > (II) Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/libxaa.a > (II) Module xaa: vendor=3D"X.Org Foundation" > compiled for 6.8.2, module version =3D 1.2.0 > ABI class: X.Org Video Driver, version 0.7 > (II) Loading sub module "ddc" > (II) LoadModule: "ddc" > (II) Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/libddc.a > (II) Module ddc: vendor=3D"X.Org Foundation" > compiled for 6.8.2, module version =3D 1.0.0 > ABI class: X.Org Video Driver, version 0.7 > (II) Loading sub module "i2c" > (II) LoadModule: "i2c" > (II) Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/libi2c.a > (II) Module i2c: vendor=3D"X.Org Foundation" > compiled for 6.8.2, module version =3D 1.2.0 > ABI class: X.Org Video Driver, version 0.7 > (II) GLINT(0): I2C bus "DDC" initialized. > (II) GLINT(0): I2C bus "Video" > init=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6= =F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6= =F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6= =F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6= =F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6= =F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6= =F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6= =F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6= =F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6= =F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6= =F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6= =F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6= =F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6= =F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6= =F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6= =F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6= =F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6= =F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6= =F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6= =F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6= =F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F60xa0000) > MX[B] > [8] -1 0 0xfebb8000 - 0xfebbffff (0x8000) MX[B]E > [9] -1 0 0xf8000000 - 0xf7ffffff (0x0) MX[B]EO > [10] -1 0 0xfebd0000 - 0xfebdffff (0x10000) MX[B](B) > [11] -1 0 0xfd800000 - 0xfdffffff (0x800000) MX[B](B) > [12] -1 0 0xfe000000 - 0xfe7fffff (0x800000) MX[B](B) > [13] -1 0 0xfebe0000 - 0xfebfffff (0x20000) MX[B](B) > [14] 0 0 0x000a0000 - 0x000affff (0x10000) MS[B](OprD) > [15] 0 0 0x000b0000 - 0x000b7fff (0x8000) MS[B](OprD) > [16] 0 0 0x000b8000 - 0x000bffff (0x8000) MS[B](OprD) > [17] -1 0 0x0000ffff - 0x0000ffff (0x1) IX[B] > [18] -1 0 0x00000000 - 0x000000ff (0x100) IX[B] > [19] -1 0 0x0000ef00 - 0x0000ef7f (0x80) IX[B]E > [20] -1 0 0x0000ef80 - 0x0000efff (0x80) IX[B]E > [21] -1 0 0x0000ffa0 - 0x0000ffbf (0x20) IX[B]E > [22] 0 0 0x000003b0 - 0x000003bb (0xc) IS[B](OprD) > [23] 0 0 0x000003c0 - 0x000003df (0x20) IS[B](OprD) > (=3D=3D) GLINT(0): Write-combining range (0xfebe0000,0x20000) was already= clear > (=3D=3D) GLINT(0): Write-combining range (0xfd800000,0x800000) > (II) GLINT(0): I2C device "DDC:ddc2" registered at address 0xA0. > (II) GLINT(0): I2C device "DDC:ddc2" removed. > (II) GLINT(0): Manufacturer: CPQ Model: 1445 Serial#: 2122565061 > (II) GLINT(0): Year: 2003 Week: 19 > (II) GLINT(0): EDID Version: 1.3 > (II) GLINT(0): Analog Display Input, Input Voltage Level: 0.700/0.700 V > (II) GLINT(0): Sync: Separate > (II) GLINT(0): Max H-Image Size [cm]: horiz.: 32 vert.: 24 > (II) GLINT(0): Gamma: 2.09 > (II) GLINT(0): DPMS capabilities: StandBy Suspend Off; RGB/Color Display > (II) GLINT(0): First detailed timing is preferred mode > (II) GLINT(0): redX: 0.625 redY: 0.330 greenX: 0.293 greenY: 0.589 > (II) GLINT(0): blueX: 0.144 blueY: 0.067 whiteX: 0.283 whiteY: 0.298 > (II) GLINT(0): Supported VESA Video Modes: > (II) GLINT(0): 720x400@70Hz > (II) GLINT(0): 640x480@60Hz > (II) GLINT(0): 640x480@75Hz > (II) GLINT(0): 800x600@75Hz > (II) GLINT(0): 1024x768@75Hz > (II) GLINT(0): Manufacturer's mask: 0 > (II) GLINT(0): Supported Future Video Modes: > (II) GLINT(0): #0: hsize: 640 vsize 480 refresh: 85 vid: 22833 > (II) GLINT(0): #1: hsize: 800 vsize 600 refresh: 85 vid: 22853 > (II) GLINT(0): #2: hsize: 1024 vsize 768 refresh: 85 vid: 22881 > (II) GLINT(0): #3: hsize: 1280 vsize 1024 refresh: 60 vid: 32897 > (II) GLINT(0): Supported additional Video Mode: > (II) GLINT(0): clock: 94.5 MHz Image Size: 312 x 234 mm > (II) GLINT(0): h_active: 1024 h_sync: 1072 h_sync_end 1168 > h_blank_end 1376 h_border: 0 > (II) GLINT(0): v_active: 768 v_sync: 769 v_sync_end 772 v_blanking: > 808 v_border: 0 > (II) GLINT(0): Ranges: V min: 50 V max: 140 Hz, H min: 30 H max: 70 > kHz, PixClock max 110 MHz > (II) GLINT(0): Monitor name: COMPAQ 7500 > (II) GLINT(0): Using XFree86 Acceleration Architecture (XAA) > Screen to screen bit blits > Solid filled rectangles > 8x8 mono pattern filled rectangles > Indirect CPU to Screen color expansion > Solid Lines > Offscreen Pixmaps > Driver provided WriteBitmap replacement > Driver provided WritePixmap replacement > Setting up tile and stipple cache: > 32 128x128 slots > 10 256x256 slots > (=3D=3D) GLINT(0): Backing store disabled > (=3D=3D) GLINT(0): Silken mouse enabled > (**) Option "dpms" > (**) GLINT(0): DPMS enabled > (II) GLINT(0): Initializing Xv driver rev. 4 > (II) GLINT(0): Xv frontend scaler enabled > (=3D=3D) RandR enabled > Symbol fbdevHWAdjustFrame from module > /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/drivers/glint_drv.o is unresolved! > (II) Initializing built-in extension MIT-SHM > (II) Initializing built-in extension XInputExtension > (II) Initializing built-in extension XTEST > (II) Initializing built-in extension XKEYBOARD > (II) Initializing built-in extension XC-APPGROUP > (II) Initializing built-in extension SECURITY > (II) Initializing built-in extension XINERAMA > (II) Initializing built-in extension XFIXES > (II) Initializing built-in extension XFree86-Bigfont > (II) Initializing built-in extension RENDER > (II) Initializing built-in extension RANDR > (II) Initializing built-in extension COMPOSITE > (II) Initializing built-in extension DAMAGE > (II) Initializing built-in extension XEVIE > (**) Option "Protocol" "auto" > (**) Mouse0: Device: "/dev/sysmouse" > (**) Mouse0: Protocol: "auto" > (**) Option "CorePointer" > (**) Mouse0: Core Pointer > (**) Option "Device" "/dev/sysmouse" > (=3D=3D) Mouse0: Emulate3Buttons, Emulate3Timeout: 50 > (=3D=3D) Mouse0: Buttons: 3 > (**) Option "CoreKeyboard" > (**) Keyboard0: Core Keyboard > (**) Option "Protocol" "standard" > (**) Keyboard0: Protocol: standard > (**) Option "AutoRepeat" "500 30" > (**) Option "XkbRules" "xorg" > (**) Keyboard0: XkbRules: "xorg" > (**) Option "XkbModel" "pc105" > (**) Keyboard0: XkbModel: "pc105" > (**) Option "XkbLayout" "us" > (**) Keyboard0: XkbLayout: "us" > (**) Option "CustomKeycodes" "off" > (**) Keyboard0: CustomKeycodes disabled > (II) XINPUT: Adding extended input device "Keyboard0" (type: KEYBOARD) > (II) XINPUT: Adding extended input device "Mouse0" (type: MOUSE) > (II) Mouse0: SetupAuto: hw.iftype is 4, hw.model is 0 > (II) Mouse0: SetupAuto: protocol is SysMouse > (II) 3rd Button detected: disabling emulate3Button > *************************************************************************= ****************************** > *************************************************************************= ****************************** > But went i copy my /root/xorg.conf.new to /etc/X11/xorg.conf, and ex= ecute: >=20 > test# startx >=20 > Good appear my X-Windows system, right now iam working with > Xfce4, but my keyboard dosent answer, this is the X.org.0.log: > *************************************************************************= ****************************** > *************************************************************************= ****************************** > X Window System Version 6.8.2 > Release Date: 9 February 2005 > X Protocol Version 11, Revision 0, Release 6.8.2 > Build Operating System: FreeBSD 5.4 i386 [ELF] > Current Operating System: FreeBSD devhora 5.4-RELEASE-p2 FreeBSD > 5.4-RELEASE-p2 #0: Sat Jun 25 07:30:12 PDT 2005 > root@devhora:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/DEVHORA i386 > Build Date: 04 April 2005 > Before reporting problems, check http://wiki.X.Org > to make sure that you have the latest version. > Module Loader present > Markers: (--) probed, (**) from config file, (=3D=3D) default setting, > (++) from command line, (!!) notice, (II) informational, > (WW) warning, (EE) error, (NI) not implemented, (??) unknown. > (=3D=3D) Log file: "/var/log/Xorg.0.log", Time: Mon Jun 27 23:13:21 2005 > (=3D=3D) Using config file: "/etc/X11/xorg.conf" > (=3D=3D) ServerLayout "X.org Configured" > (**) |-->Screen "Screen0" (0) > (**) | |-->Monitor "Monitor0" > (**) | |-->Device "Card0" > (**) |-->Input Device "Mouse0" > (**) |-->Input Device "Keyboard0" > (WW) The directory "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/CID/" does not exist. > Entry deleted from font path. > (**) FontPath set to > "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/misc/,/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/TTF/,/usr/X11R6/= lib/X11/fonts/Type1/,/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi/,/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fon= ts/100dpi/" > (**) RgbPath set to "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/rgb" > (**) ModulePath set to "/usr/X11R6/lib/modules" > (II) Module ABI versions: > X.Org ANSI C Emulation: 0.2 > X.Org Video Driver: 0.7 > X.Org XInput driver : 0.4 > X.Org Server Extension : 0.2 > X.Org Font Renderer : 0.4 > (II) Loader running on freebsd > (II) LoadModule: "bitmap" > (II) Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/fonts/libbitmap.a > (II) Module bitmap: vendor=3D"X.Org Foundation" > compiled for 6.8.2, module version =3D 1.0.0 > Module class: X.Org Font Renderer > ABI class: X.Org Font Renderer, version 0.4 > (II) Loading font Bitmap > (II) LoadModule: "pcidata" > (II) Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/libpcidata.a > (II) Module pcidata: vendor=3D"X.Org Foundation" > compiled for 6.8.2, module version =3D 1.0.0 > ABI class: X.Org Video Driver, version 0.7 > (--) Using syscons driver with X support (version 2.0) > (--) using VT number 4 >=20 > (II) PCI: Probing config type using method 1 > (II) PCI: Config type is 1 > (II) PCI: stages =3D 0x03, oldVal1 =3D 0x00000000, mode1Res1 =3D 0x800000= 00 > (II) PCI: PCI scan (all values are in hex) > (II) PCI: 00:00:0: chip 8086,7190 card 0000,0000 rev 02 class 06,00,00 hd= r 00 > (II) PCI: 00:01:0: chip 8086,7191 card 0000,0000 rev 02 class 06,04,00 hd= r 01 > (II) PCI: 00:07:0: chip 8086,7110 card 0000,0000 rev 02 class 06,01,00 hd= r 80 > (II) PCI: 00:07:1: chip 8086,7111 card 0000,0000 rev 01 class 01,01,80 hd= r 00 > (II) PCI: 00:07:2: chip 8086,7112 card 0000,0000 rev 01 class 0c,03,00 hd= r 00 > (II) PCI: 00:07:3: chip 8086,7113 card 0000,0000 rev 02 class 06,80,00 hd= r 00 > (II) PCI: 00:0f:0: chip 10b7,9050 card 0000,0000 rev 00 class 02,00,00 hd= r 00 > (II) PCI: 00:10:0: chip 104c,3d07 card 1092,0126 rev 01 class 03,00,00 hd= r 00 > (II) PCI: 00:14:0: chip 1073,000d card 1073,000d rev 03 class 04,01,00 hd= r 00 > (II) PCI: End of PCI scan > (II) Host-to-PCI bridge: > (II) Bus 0: bridge is at (0:0:0), (0,0,1), BCTRL: 0x0008 (VGA_EN is set) > (II) Bus 0 I/O range: > [0] -1 0 0x00000000 - 0x0000ffff (0x10000) IX[B] > (II) Bus 0 non-prefetchable memory range: > [0] -1 0 0x00000000 - 0xffffffff (0x0) MX[B] > (II) Bus 0 prefetchable memory range: > [0] -1 0 0x00000000 - 0xffffffff (0x0) MX[B] > (II) PCI-to-PCI bridge: > (II) Bus 1: bridge is at (0:1:0), (0,1,1), BCTRL: 0x0080 (VGA_EN is clear= ed) > (II) Bus 1 I/O range: > [0] -1 0 0x0000d000 - 0x0000dfff (0x1000) IX[B] > (II) Bus 1 non-prefetchable memory range: > [0] -1 0 0xfca00000 - 0xfcafffff (0x100000) MX[B] > (II) Bus 1 prefetchable memory range: > [0] -1 0 0xf4800000 - 0xf48fffff (0x100000) MX[B] > (II) PCI-to-ISA bridge: > (II) Bus -1: bridge is at (0:7:0), (0,-1,-1), BCTRL: 0x0008 (VGA_EN is se= t) > (--) PCI:*(0:16:0) Texas Instruments TVP4020 [Permedia 2] rev 1, Mem @ > 0xfebe0000/17, 0xfe000000/23, 0xfd800000/23, BIOS @ 0xfebd0000/16 > (II) Addressable bus resource ranges are > [0] -1 0 0x00000000 - 0xffffffff (0x0) MX[B] > [1] -1 0 0x00000000 - 0x0000ffff (0x10000) IX[B] > (II) OS-reported resource ranges: > [0] -1 0 0xffe00000 - 0xffffffff (0x200000) MX[B](B) > [1] -1 0 0x00100000 - 0x3fffffff (0x3ff00000) MX[B]E(B) > [2] -1 0 0x000f0000 - 0x000fffff (0x10000) MX[B] > [3] -1 0 0x000c0000 - 0x000effff (0x30000) MX[B] > [4] -1 0 0x00000000 - 0x0009ffff (0xa0000) MX[B] > [5] -1 0 0x0000ffff - 0x0000ffff (0x1) IX[B] > [6] -1 0 0x00000000 - 0x000000ff (0x100) IX[B] > (II) PCI Memory resource overlap reduced 0xf8000000 from 0xffffffff to > 0xf7ffffff > (II) Active PCI resource ranges: > [0] -1 0 0xfebb8000 - 0xfebbffff (0x8000) MX[B]E > [1] -1 0 0xf8000000 - 0xf7ffffff (0x0) MX[B]EO > [2] -1 0 0xfebd0000 - 0xfebdffff (0x10000) MX[B](B) > [3] -1 0 0xfd800000 - 0xfdffffff (0x800000) MX[B](B) > [4] -1 0 0xfe000000 - 0xfe7fffff (0x800000) MX[B](B) > [5] -1 0 0xfebe0000 - 0xfebfffff (0x20000) MX[B](B) > [6] -1 0 0x0000ef00 - 0x0000efff (0x100) IX[B]E > [7] -1 0 0x0000ef80 - 0x0000efff (0x80) IX[B]E > [8] -1 0 0x0000ffa0 - 0x0000ffbf (0x20) IX[B]E > (II) PCI I/O resource overlap reduced 0x0000ef00 from 0x0000efff to 0x000= 0ef7f > (II) Active PCI resource ranges after removing overlaps: > [0] -1 0 0xfebb8000 - 0xfebbffff (0x8000) MX[B]E > [1] -1 0 0xf8000000 - 0xf7ffffff (0x0) MX[B]EO > [2] -1 0 0xfebd0000 - 0xfebdffff (0x10000) MX[B](B) > [3] -1 0 0xfd800000 - 0xfdffffff (0x800000) MX[B](B) > [4] -1 0 0xfe000000 - 0xfe7fffff (0x800000) MX[B](B) > [5] -1 0 0xfebe0000 - 0xfebfffff (0x20000) MX[B](B) > [6] -1 0 0x0000ef00 - 0x0000ef7f (0x80) IX[B]E > [7] -1 0 0x0000ef80 - 0x0000efff (0x80) IX[B]E > [8] -1 0 0x0000ffa0 - 0x0000ffbf (0x20) IX[B]E > (II) OS-reported resource ranges after removing overlaps with PCI: > [0] -1 0 0xffe00000 - 0xffffffff (0x200000) MX[B](B) > [1] -1 0 0x00100000 - 0x3fffffff (0x3ff00000) MX[B]E(B) > [2] -1 0 0x000f0000 - 0x000fffff (0x10000) MX[B] > [3] -1 0 0x000c0000 - 0x000effff (0x30000) MX[B] > [4] -1 0 0x00000000 - 0x0009ffff (0xa0000) MX[B] > [5] -1 0 0x0000ffff - 0x0000ffff (0x1) IX[B] > [6] -1 0 0x00000000 - 0x000000ff (0x100) IX[B] > (II) All system resource ranges: > [0] -1 0 0xffe00000 - 0xffffffff (0x200000) MX[B](B) > [1] -1 0 0x00100000 - 0x3fffffff (0x3ff00000) MX[B]E(B) > [2] -1 0 0x000f0000 - 0x000fffff (0x10000) MX[B] > [3] -1 0 0x000c0000 - 0x000effff (0x30000) MX[B] > [4] -1 0 0x00000000 - 0x0009ffff (0xa0000) MX[B] > [5] -1 0 0xfebb8000 - 0xfebbffff (0x8000) MX[B]E > [6] -1 0 0xf8000000 - 0xf7ffffff (0x0) MX[B]EO > [7] -1 0 0xfebd0000 - 0xfebdffff (0x10000) MX[B](B) > [8] -1 0 0xfd800000 - 0xfdffffff (0x800000) MX[B](B) > [9] -1 0 0xfe000000 - 0xfe7fffff (0x800000) MX[B](B) > [10] -1 0 0xfebe0000 - 0xfebfffff (0x20000) MX[B](B) > [11] -1 0 0x0000ffff - 0x0000ffff (0x1) IX[B] > [12] -1 0 0x00000000 - 0x000000ff (0x100) IX[B] > [13] -1 0 0x0000ef00 - 0x0000ef7f (0x80) IX[B]E > [14] -1 0 0x0000ef80 - 0x0000efff (0x80) IX[B]E > [15] -1 0 0x0000ffa0 - 0x0000ffbf (0x20) IX[B]E > (II) LoadModule: "dbe" > (II) Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/extensions/libdbe.a > (II) Module dbe: vendor=3D"X.Org Foundation" > compiled for 6.8.2, module version =3D 1.0.0 > Module class: X.Org Server Extension > ABI class: X.Org Server Extension, version 0.2 > (II) Loading extension DOUBLE-BUFFER > (II) LoadModule: "dri" > (II) Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/extensions/libdri.a > (II) Module dri: vendor=3D"X.Org Foundation" > compiled for 6.8.2, module version =3D 1.0.0 > ABI class: X.Org Server Extension, version 0.2 > (II) Loading sub module "drm" > (II) LoadModule: "drm" > (II) Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/freebsd/libdrm.a > (II) Module drm: vendor=3D"X.Org Foundation" > compiled for 6.8.2, module version =3D 1.0.0 > ABI class: X.Org Server Extension, version 0.2 > (II) Loading extension XFree86-DRI > (II) LoadModule: "extmod" > (II) Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/extensions/libextmod.a > (II) Module extmod: vendor=3D"X.Org Foundation" > compiled for 6.8.2, module version =3D 1.0.0 > Module class: X.Org Server Extension > ABI class: X.Org Server Extension, version 0.2 > (II) Loading extension SHAPE > (II) Loading extension MIT-SUNDRY-NONSTANDARD > (II) Loading extension BIG-REQUESTS > (II) Loading extension SYNC > (II) Loading extension MIT-SCREEN-SAVER > (II) Loading extension XC-MISC > (II) Loading extension XFree86-VidModeExtension > (II) Loading extension XFree86-Misc > (II) Loading extension XFree86-DGA > (II) Loading extension DPMS > (II) Loading extension TOG-CUP > (II) Loading extension Extended-Visual-Information > (II) Loading extension XVideo > (II) Loading extension XVideo-MotionCompensation > (II) Loading extension X-Resource > (II) LoadModule: "glx" > (II) Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/extensions/libglx.a > (II) Module glx: vendor=3D"X.Org Foundation" > compiled for 6.8.2, module version =3D 1.0.0 > ABI class: X.Org Server Extension, version 0.2 > (II) Loading sub module "GLcore" > (II) LoadModule: "GLcore" > (II) Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/extensions/libGLcore.a > (II) Module GLcore: vendor=3D"X.Org Foundation" > compiled for 6.8.2, module version =3D 1.0.0 > ABI class: X.Org Server Extension, version 0.2 > (II) Loading extension GLX > (II) LoadModule: "record" > (II) Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/extensions/librecord.a > (II) Module record: vendor=3D"X.Org Foundation" > 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=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6= =F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6= =F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6= =F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F60 0xffe00000 > - 0xffffffff (0x200000) MX[B](B) > [1] -1 0 0x00100000 - 0x3fffffff (0x3ff00000) MX[B]E(B) > [2] -1 0 0x000f0000 - 0x000fffff (0x10000) MX[B] > [3] -1 0 0x000c0000 - 0x000effff (0x30000) MX[B] > [4] -1 0 0x00000000 - 0x0009ffff (0xa0000) MX[B] > [5] -1 0 0xfebb8000 - 0xfebbffff (0x8000) MX[B]E > [6] -1 0 0xf8000000 - 0xf7ffffff (0x0) MX[B]EO > [7] -1 0 0xfebd0000 - 0xfebdffff (0x10000) MX[B](B) > [8] -1 0 0xfd800000 - 0xfdffffff (0x800000) MX[B](B) > [9] -1 0 0xfe000000 - 0xfe7fffff (0x800000) MX[B](B) > [10] -1 0 0xfebe0000 - 0xfebfffff (0x20000) MX[B](B) > [11] 0 0 0x000a0000 - 0x000affff (0x10000) MS[B] > [12] 0 0 0x000b0000 - 0x000b7fff (0x8000) MS[B] > [13] 0 0 0x000b8000 - 0x000bffff (0x8000) MS[B] > [14] -1 0 0x0000ffff - 0x0000ffff (0x1) IX[B] > [15] -1 0 0x00000000 - 0x000000ff (0x100) IX[B] > [16] -1 0 0x0000ef00 - 0x0000ef7f (0x80) IX[B]E > [17] -1 0 0x0000ef80 - 0x0000efff (0x80) IX[B]E > [18] -1 0 0x0000ffa0 - 0x0000ffbf (0x20) IX[B]E > [19] 0 0 0x000003b0 - 0x000003bb (0xc) IS[B] > [20] 0 0 0x000003c0 - 0x000003df (0x20) IS[B] > (II) Setting vga for screen 0. > (**) GLINT(0): Depth 24, (--) framebuffer bpp 32 > (=3D=3D) GLINT(0): RGB weight 888 > (=3D=3D) GLINT(0): Default visual is TrueColor > (=3D=3D) GLINT(0): Using gamma correction (1.0, 1.0, 1.0) > (=3D=3D) GLINT(0): Using HW cursor > (--) GLINT(0): Not using Linux framebuffer device > (--) GLINT(0): Chipset: "ti_pm2" > (--) GLINT(0): Linear framebuffer at 0xFD800000 > (--) GLINT(0): MMIO registers at 0xFEBE0000 > (=3D=3D) GLINT(0): Write-combining range (0xfebe0000,0x20000) was already= clear > (=3D=3D) GLINT(0): Write-combining range (0xfebe0000,0x20000) was already= clear > (--) GLINT(0): VideoRAM: 8192 kByte > (II) Loading sub module "ramdac" > (II) LoadModule: "ramdac" > (II) Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/libramdac.a > (II) Module ramdac: vendor=3D"X.Org Foundation" > compiled for 6.8.2, module version =3D 0.1.0 > ABI class: X.Org Video Driver, version 0.7 > (--) GLINT(0): FIFO Size is 256 DWORDS > (=3D=3D) GLINT(0): Min pixel clock is 16 MHz > (--) GLINT(0): Max pixel clock is 110 MHz > (II) GLINT(0): Monitor0: Using hsync range of 30.00-70.00 kHz > (II) GLINT(0): Monitor0: Using vrefresh range of 50.00-140.00 Hz > (II) GLINT(0): Clock range: 16.25 to 110.00 MHz > (II) GLINT(0): Not using default mode "320x175" (bad mode > clock/interlace/doublescan) > (II) GLINT(0): Not using default mode "320x200" (bad mode > clock/interlace/doublescan) > (II) GLINT(0): Not using default mode "360x200" (bad mode > clock/interlace/doublescan) > (II) GLINT(0): Not using default mode "320x240" (bad mode > clock/interlace/doublescan) > (II) GLINT(0): Not using default mode "320x240" (bad mode > clock/interlace/doublescan) > (II) GLINT(0): Not using default mode "320x240" (bad mode > clock/interlace/doublescan) > (II) GLINT(0): Not using default mode "320x240" (bad mode > clock/interlace/doublescan) > (II) GLINT(0): Not using default mode "400x300" (bad mode > clock/interlace/doublescan) > (II) GLINT(0): Not using default mode "400x300" (bad mode > clock/interlace/doublescan) > (II) GLINT(0): Not using default mode "400x300" (bad mode > clock/interlace/doublescan) > (II) GLINT(0): Not using default mode "400x300" (bad mode > clock/interlace/doublescan) > (II) GLINT(0): Not using default mode "400x300" (bad mode > clock/interlace/doublescan) > (II) GLINT(0): Not using default mode "1024x768" (bad mode > clock/interlace/doublescan) > (II) GLINT(0): Not using default mode "512x384" (bad mode > clock/interlace/doublescan) > (II) GLINT(0): Not using default mode "512x384" (bad mode > clock/interlace/doublescan) > (II) GLINT(0): Not using default mode "512x384" (bad mode > clock/interlace/doublescan) > (II) GLINT(0): Not using default mode "512x384" (bad mode > clock/interlace/doublescan) > (II) GLINT(0): Not using default mode "512x384" (bad mode > clock/interlace/doublescan) > (II) GLINT(0): Not using default mode "576x432" (bad mode > clock/interlace/doublescan) > (II) GLINT(0): Not using default mode "640x480" (bad mode > clock/interlace/doublescan) > (II) GLINT(0): Not using default mode "1280x960" (bad mode > clock/interlace/doublescan) > (II) GLINT(0): Not using default mode "640x480" (bad mode > clock/interlace/doublescan) > (II) GLINT(0): Not using default mode "640x512" (bad mode > clock/interlace/doublescan) > (II) GLINT(0): Not using default mode "1280x1024" (bad mode > clock/interlace/doublescan) > (II) GLINT(0): Not using default mode "640x512" (bad mode > clock/interlace/doublescan) > (II) GLINT(0): Not using default mode "1280x1024" (bad mode > clock/interlace/doublescan) > (II) GLINT(0): Not using default mode "640x512" (bad mode > clock/interlace/doublescan) > (II) GLINT(0): Not using default mode "1600x1200" (bad mode > clock/interlace/doublescan) > (II) GLINT(0): Not using default mode "800x600" (bad mode > clock/interlace/doublescan) > (II) GLINT(0): Not using default mode "1600x1200" (bad mode > clock/interlace/doublescan) > (II) GLINT(0): Not using default mode "800x600" (bad mode > clock/interlace/doublescan) > (II) GLINT(0): Not using default mode "1600x1200" (bad mode > clock/interlace/doublescan) > (II) GLINT(0): Not using default mode "800x600" (bad mode > clock/interlace/doublescan) > (II) GLINT(0): Not using default mode "1600x1200" (bad mode > clock/interlace/doublescan) > (II) GLINT(0): Not using default mode "800x600" (bad mode > clock/interlace/doublescan) > (II) GLINT(0): Not using default mode "1600x1200" (bad mode > clock/interlace/doublescan) > (II) GLINT(0): Not using default mode "800x600" (bad mode > clock/interlace/doublescan) > (II) GLINT(0): Not using default mode "1792x1344" (insufficient memory fo= r mode) > (II) GLINT(0): Not using default mode "896x672" (bad mode > clock/interlace/doublescan) > (II) GLINT(0): Not using default mode "1792x1344" (insufficient memory fo= r mode) > (II) GLINT(0): Not using default mode "896x672" (bad mode > clock/interlace/doublescan) > (II) GLINT(0): Not using default mode "1856x1392" (insufficient memory fo= r mode) > (II) GLINT(0): Not using default mode "928x696" (bad mode > clock/interlace/doublescan) > (II) GLINT(0): Not using default mode "1856x1392" (insufficient memory fo= r mode) > (II) GLINT(0): Not using default mode "928x696" (bad mode > clock/interlace/doublescan) > (II) GLINT(0): Not using default mode "1920x1440" (insufficient memory fo= r mode) > (II) GLINT(0): Not using default mode "960x720" (bad mode > clock/interlace/doublescan) > (II) GLINT(0): Not using default mode "1920x1440" (insufficient memory fo= r mode) > (II) GLINT(0): Not using default mode "960x720" (bad mode > clock/interlace/doublescan) > (II) GLINT(0): Not using default mode "416x312" (bad mode > clock/interlace/doublescan) > (II) GLINT(0): Not using default mode "576x384" (bad mode > clock/interlace/doublescan) > (II) GLINT(0): Not using default mode "1400x1050" (bad mode > clock/interlace/doublescan) > (II) GLINT(0): Not using default mode "700x525" (bad mode > clock/interlace/doublescan) > (II) GLINT(0): Not using default mode "1400x1050" (bad mode > clock/interlace/doublescan) > (II) GLINT(0): Not using default mode "700x525" (bad mode > clock/interlace/doublescan) > (II) GLINT(0): Not using default mode "800x512" (bad mode > clock/interlace/doublescan) > (II) GLINT(0): Not using default mode "1920x1440" (insufficient memory fo= r mode) > (II) GLINT(0): Not using default mode "960x720" (bad mode > clock/interlace/doublescan) > (II) GLINT(0): Not using default mode "2048x1536" (insufficient memory fo= r mode) > (II) GLINT(0): Not using default mode "1024x768" (bad mode > clock/interlace/doublescan) > (II) GLINT(0): Not using default mode "2048x1536" (insufficient memory fo= r mode) > (II) GLINT(0): Not using default mode "1024x768" (bad mode > clock/interlace/doublescan) > (II) GLINT(0): Not using default mode "2048x1536" (insufficient memory fo= r mode) > (II) GLINT(0): Not using default mode "1024x768" (bad mode > clock/interlace/doublescan) > (II) GLINT(0): Not using default mode "1280x1024" (width too large for > virtual size) > (II) GLINT(0): Not using default mode "1280x960" (width too large for > virtual size) > (II) GLINT(0): Not using default mode "1152x864" (width too large for > virtual size) > (II) GLINT(0): Not using default mode "1152x768" (width too large for > virtual size) > (--) GLINT(0): Virtual size is 1024x768 (pitch 1024) > (**) GLINT(0): *Default mode "1024x768": 94.5 MHz, 68.7 kHz, 85.0 Hz > (II) GLINT(0): Modeline "1024x768" 94.50 1024 1072 1168 1376 768 > 769 772 808 +hsync +vsync > (**) GLINT(0): Default mode "1024x768": 78.8 MHz, 60.1 kHz, 75.1 Hz > (II) GLINT(0): Modeline "1024x768" 78.80 1024 1040 1136 1312 768 > 769 772 800 +hsync +vsync > (**) GLINT(0): Default mode "1024x768": 75.0 MHz, 56.5 kHz, 70.1 Hz > (II) GLINT(0): Modeline "1024x768" 75.00 1024 1048 1184 1328 768 > 771 777 806 -hsync -vsync > (**) GLINT(0): Default mode "1024x768": 65.0 MHz, 48.4 kHz, 60.0 Hz > (II) GLINT(0): Modeline "1024x768" 65.00 1024 1048 1184 1344 768 > 771 777 806 -hsync -vsync > (**) GLINT(0): Default mode "832x624": 57.3 MHz, 49.7 kHz, 74.6 Hz > (II) GLINT(0): Modeline "832x624" 57.28 832 864 928 1152 624 625 > 628 667 -hsync -vsync > (**) GLINT(0): Default mode "800x600": 56.3 MHz, 53.7 kHz, 85.1 Hz > (II) GLINT(0): Modeline "800x600" 56.30 800 832 896 1048 600 601 > 604 631 +hsync +vsync > (**) GLINT(0): Default mode "800x600": 49.5 MHz, 46.9 kHz, 75.0 Hz > (II) GLINT(0): Modeline "800x600" 49.50 800 816 896 1056 600 601 > 604 625 +hsync +vsync > (**) GLINT(0): Default mode "800x600": 50.0 MHz, 48.1 kHz, 72.2 Hz > (II) GLINT(0): Modeline "800x600" 50.00 800 856 976 1040 600 637 > 643 666 +hsync +vsync > (**) GLINT(0): Default mode "800x600": 40.0 MHz, 37.9 kHz, 60.3 Hz > (II) GLINT(0): Modeline "800x600" 40.00 800 840 968 1056 600 601 > 605 628 +hsync +vsync > (**) GLINT(0): Default mode "800x600": 36.0 MHz, 35.2 kHz, 56.2 Hz > (II) GLINT(0): Modeline "800x600" 36.00 800 824 896 1024 600 601 > 603 625 +hsync +vsync > (**) GLINT(0): Default mode "640x480": 36.0 MHz, 43.3 kHz, 85.0 Hz > (II) GLINT(0): Modeline "640x480" 36.00 640 696 752 832 480 481 > 484 509 -hsync -vsync > (**) GLINT(0): Default mode "640x480": 31.5 MHz, 37.5 kHz, 75.0 Hz > (II) GLINT(0): Modeline "640x480" 31.50 640 656 720 840 480 481 > 484 500 -hsync -vsync > (**) GLINT(0): Default mode "640x480": 31.5 MHz, 37.9 kHz, 72.8 Hz > (II) GLINT(0): Modeline "640x480" 31.50 640 664 704 832 480 489 > 491 520 -hsync -vsync > (**) GLINT(0): Default mode "640x480": 25.2 MHz, 31.5 kHz, 60.0 Hz > (II) GLINT(0): Modeline "640x480" 25.20 640 656 752 800 480 490 > 492 525 -hsync -vsync > (**) GLINT(0): Default mode "720x400": 35.5 MHz, 37.9 kHz, 85.0 Hz > (II) GLINT(0): Modeline "720x400" 35.50 720 756 828 936 400 401 > 404 446 -hsync +vsync > (**) GLINT(0): Default mode "640x400": 31.5 MHz, 37.9 kHz, 85.1 Hz > (II) GLINT(0): Modeline "640x400" 31.50 640 672 736 832 400 401 > 404 445 -hsync +vsync > (**) GLINT(0): Default mode "640x350": 31.5 MHz, 37.9 kHz, 85.1 Hz > (II) GLINT(0): Modeline "640x350" 31.50 640 672 736 832 350 382 > 385 445 +hsync -vsync > (=3D=3D) GLINT(0): DPI set to (75, 75) > (II) Loading sub module "fb" > (II) LoadModule: "fb" > (II) Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/libfb.a > (II) Module fb: vendor=3D"X.Org Foundation" > compiled for 6.8.2, module version =3D 1.0.0 > ABI class: X.Org ANSI C Emulation, version 0.2 > (II) Loading sub module "xaa" > (II) LoadModule: "xaa" > (II) Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/libxaa.a > (II) Module xaa: vendor=3D"X.Org Foundation" > compiled for 6.8.2, module version =3D 1.2.0 > ABI class: X.Org Video Driver, version 0.7 > (II) Loading sub module "ddc" > (II) LoadModule: "ddc" > (II) Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/libddc.a > (II) Module ddc: vendor=3D"X.Org Foundation" > compiled for 6.8.2, module version =3D 1.0.0 > ABI class: X.Org Video Driver, version 0.7 > (II) Loading sub module "i2c" > (II) LoadModule: "i2c" > (II) Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/libi2c.a > (II) Module i2c: vendor=3D"X.Org Foundation" > compiled for 6.8.2, module version =3D 1.2.0 > ABI class: X.Org Video Driver, version 0.7 > (II) GLINT(0): I2C bus "DDC" initialized. > (II) GLINT(0): I2C bus "Video" initialized. > (--) Depth 24 pixmap format is 32 bpp > (II) do I need RAC? No, I don't. > (II) resource ranges after preInit: > [0] 0 0 0xfd800000 - 0xfdffffff (0x800000) MX[B] > [1] 0 0 0xfe000000 - 0xfe7fffff (0x800000) MX[B] > [2] 0 0 0xfebe0000 - 0xfebfffff (0x20000) MX[B] > [3] -1 0 0xffe00000 - 0xffffffff (0x200000) MX[B](B) > [4] -1 0 0x00100000 - 0x3fffffff (0x3ff00000) MX[B]E(B) > [5] -1 0 0x000f0000 - 0x000fffff (0x10000) MX[B] > [6] -1 0 0x000c0000 - 0x000effff (0x30000) MX[B] > [7] -1 0 0x00000000 - 0x0009ffff (0xa0000) MX[B] > [8] -1 0 0xfebb8000 - 0xfebbffff (0x8000) MX[B]E > [9] -1 0 0xf8000000 - 0xf7ffffff (0x0) MX[B]EO > [10] -1 0 0xfebd0000 - 0xfebdffff (0x10000) MX[B](B) > [11] -1 0 0xfd800000 - 0xfdffffff (0x800000) MX[B](B) > [12] -1 0 0xfe000000 - 0xfe7fffff (0x800000) MX[B](B) > [13] -1 0 0xfebe0000 - 0xfebfffff (0x20000) MX[B](B) > [14] 0 0 0x000a0000 - 0x000affff (0x10000) MS[B](OprD) > [15] 0 0 0x000b0000 - 0x000b7fff (0x8000) MS[B](OprD) > [16] 0 0 0x000b8000 - 0x000bffff (0x8000) MS[B](OprD) > [17] -1 0 0x0000ffff - 0x0000ffff (0x1) IX[B] > [18] -1 0 0x00000000 - 0x000000ff (0x100) IX[B] > [19] -1 0 0x0000ef00 - 0x0000ef7f (0x80) IX[B]E > [20] -1 0 0x0000ef80 - 0x0000efff (0x80) IX[B]E > [21] -1 0 0x0000ffa0 - 0x0000ffbf (0x20) IX[B]E > [22] 0 0 0x000003b0 - 0x000003bb (0xc) IS[B](OprD) > [23] 0 0 0x000003c0 - 0x000003df (0x20) IS[B](OprD) > (=3D=3D) GLINT(0): Write-combining range (0xfebe0000,0x20000) was already= clear > (=3D=3D) GLINT(0): Write-combining range (0xfd800000,0x800000) > (II) GLINT(0): I2C device "DDC:ddc2" registered at address 0xA0. > (II) GLINT(0): I2C device "DDC:ddc2" removed. > (II) GLINT(0): Manufacturer: CPQ Model: 1445 Serial#: 2122565061 > (II) GLINT(0): Year: 2003 Week: 19 > (II) GLINT(0): EDID Version: 1.3 > (II) GLINT(0): Analog Display Input, Input Voltage Level: 0.700/0.700 V > (II) GLINT(0): Sync: Separate > (II) GLINT(0): Max H-Image Size [cm]: horiz.: 32 vert.: 24 > (II) GLINT(0): Gamma: 2.09 > (II) GLINT(0): DPMS capabilities: StandBy Suspend Off; RGB/Color Display > (II) GLINT(0): First detailed timing is preferred mode > (II) GLINT(0): redX: 0.625 redY: 0.330 greenX: 0.293 greenY: 0.589 > (II) GLINT(0): blueX: 0.144 blueY: 0.067 whiteX: 0.283 whiteY: 0.298 > (II) GLINT(0): Supported VESA Video Modes: > (II) GLINT(0): 720x400@70Hz > (II) GLINT(0): 640x480@60Hz > (II) GLINT(0): 640x480@75Hz > (II) GLINT(0): 800x600@75Hz > (II) GLINT(0): 1024x768@75Hz > (II) GLINT(0): Manufacturer's mask: 0 > (II) GLINT(0): Supported Future Video Modes: > (II) GLINT(0): #0: hsize: 640 vsize 480 refresh: 85 vid: 22833 > (II) GLINT(0): #1: hsize: 800 vsize 600 refresh: 85 vid: 22853 > (II) GLINT(0): #2: hsize: 1024 vsize 768 refresh: 85 vid: 22881 > (II) GLINT(0): #3: hsize: 1280 vsize 1024 refresh: 60 vid: 32897 > (II) GLINT(0): Supported additional Video Mode: > (II) GLINT(0): clock: 94.5 MHz Image Size: 312 x 234 mm > (II) GLINT(0): h_active: 1024 h_sync: 1072 h_sync_end 1168 > h_blank_end 1376 h_border: 0 > (II) GLINT(0): v_active: 768 v_sync: 769 v_sync_end 772 v_blanking: > 808 v_border: 0 > (II) GLINT(0): Ranges: V min: 50 V max: 140 Hz, H min: 30 H max: 70 > kHz, PixClock max 110 MHz > (II) GLINT(0): Monitor name: COMPAQ 7500 > (II) GLINT(0): Using XFree86 Acceleration Architecture (XAA) > Screen to screen bit blits > Solid filled rectangles > 8x8 mono pattern filled rectangles > Indirect CPU to Screen color expansion > Solid Lines > Offscreen Pixmaps > Driver provided WriteBitmap replacement > Driver provided WritePixmap replacement > Setting up tile and stipple cache: > 32 128x128 slots > 10 256x256 slots > (=3D=3D) GLINT(0): Backing store disabled > (=3D=3D) GLINT(0): Silken mouse enabled > (**) Option "dpms" > (**) GLINT(0): DPMS enabled > (II) GLINT(0): Initializing Xv driver rev. 4 > (II) GLINT(0): Xv frontend scaler enabled > (=3D=3D) RandR enabled > Symbol fbdevHWAdjustFrame from module > /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/drivers/glint_drv.o is unresolved! > (II) Initializing built-in extension MIT-SHM > (II) Initializing built-in extension XInputExtension > (II) Initializing built-in extension XTEST > (II) Initializing built-in extension XKEYBOARD > (II) Initializing built-in > ext=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6= =F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6= =F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6= =F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6= =F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6= =F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6= =F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6= =F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6= =F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6= =F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6= =F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6= =F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6= =F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6= =F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6= =F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6= =F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6= =F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6= =F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6= =F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6= =F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6= =F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6tocol: > "auto" > (**) Option "CorePointer" > (**) Mouse0: Core Pointer > (**) Option "Device" "/dev/sysmouse" > (=3D=3D) Mouse0: Emulate3Buttons, Emulate3Timeout: 50 > (=3D=3D) Mouse0: Buttons: 3 > (**) Option "CoreKeyboard" > (**) Keyboard0: Core Keyboard > (**) Option "Protocol" "standard" > (**) Keyboard0: Protocol: standard > (**) Option "AutoRepeat" "500 30" > (**) Option "XkbRules" "xorg" > (**) Keyboard0: XkbRules: "xorg" > (**) Option "XkbModel" "pc105" > (**) Keyboard0: XkbModel: "pc105" > (**) Option "XkbLayout" "us" > (**) Keyboard0: XkbLayout: "us" > (**) Option "CustomKeycodes" "off" > (**) Keyboard0: CustomKeycodes disabled > (II) XINPUT: Adding extended input device "Keyboard0" (type: KEYBOARD) > (II) XINPUT: Adding extended input device "Mouse0" (type: MOUSE) > (II) Mouse0: SetupAuto: hw.iftype is 4, hw.model is 0 > (II) Mouse0: SetupAuto: protocol is SysMouse >=20 > *************************************************************************= ****************************** > *************************************************************************= ****************************** > Now i setup Xorg using the command: xorgconfig >=20 > *************************************************************************= ****************************** > *************************************************************************= ****************************** > # File generated by xorgconfig. >=20 > # > # Copyright 2004 The X.Org Foundation > # > # Permission is hereby granted, free of charge, to any person obtaining a > # copy of this software and associated documentation files (the "Software= "), > # to deal in the Software without restriction, including without limitati= on > # the rights to use, copy, modify, merge, publish, distribute, sublicense= , > # and/or sell copies of the Software, and to permit persons to whom the > # Software is furnished to do so, subject to the following conditions: > # > # The above copyright notice and this permission notice shall be included= in > # all copies or substantial portions of the Software. > # > # THE SOFTWARE IS PROVIDED "AS IS", WITHOUT WARRANTY OF ANY KIND, EXPRESS= OR > # IMPLIED, INCLUDING BUT NOT LIMITED TO THE WARRANTIES OF MERCHANTABILITY= , > # FITNESS FOR A PARTICULAR PURPOSE AND NONINFRINGEMENT. IN NO EVENT SHAL= L > # The X.Org Foundation BE LIABLE FOR ANY CLAIM, DAMAGES OR OTHER LIABILIT= Y, > # WHETHER IN AN ACTION OF CONTRACT, TORT OR OTHERWISE, ARISING FROM, OUT = OF > # OR IN CONNECTION WITH THE SOFTWARE OR THE USE OR OTHER DEALINGS IN THE > # SOFTWARE. > # > # Except as contained in this notice, the name of The X.Org Foundation sh= all > # not be used in advertising or otherwise to promote the sale, use or oth= er > # dealings in this Software without prior written authorization from > # The X.Org Foundation. > # >=20 > # ********************************************************************** > # Refer to the xorg.conf(5) man page for details about the format of > # this file. > # ********************************************************************** >=20 > # ********************************************************************** > # Module section -- this section is used to specify > # which dynamically loadable modules to load. > # ********************************************************************** > # > Section "Module" >=20 > # This loads the DBE extension module. >=20 > Load "dbe" # Double buffer extension >=20 > # This loads the miscellaneous extensions module, and disables > # initialisation of the XFree86-DGA extension within that module. > SubSection "extmod" > Option "omit xfree86-dga" # don't initialise the DGA extension > EndSubSection >=20 > # This loads the font modules > Load "type1" > # Load "speedo" > Load "freetype" > # Load "xtt" >=20 > # This loads the GLX module > # Load "glx" > # This loads the DRI module > # Load "dri" >=20 > EndSection >=20 > # ********************************************************************** > # Files section. This allows default font and rgb paths to be set > # ********************************************************************** >=20 > Section "Files" >=20 > # The location of the RGB database. Note, this is the name of the > # file minus the extension (like ".txt" or ".db"). There is normally > # no need to change the default. >=20 > RgbPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/rgb" >=20 > # Multiple FontPath entries are allowed (which are concatenated together)= , > # as well as specifying multiple comma-separated entries in one FontPath > # command (or a combination of both methods) > # > # >=20 > FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/misc/" > FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/TTF/" > FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/Type1/" > # FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/CID/" > FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi/" > FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi/" > FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/local/" > # FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/Speedo/" > # FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/TrueType/" > # FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/freefont/" >=20 > # The module search path. The default path is shown here. >=20 > # ModulePath "/usr/X11R6/lib/modules" >=20 > EndSection >=20 > # ********************************************************************** > # Server flags section. > # ********************************************************************** >=20 > Section "ServerFlags" >=20 > # Uncomment this to cause a core dump at the spot where a signal is > # received. This may leave the console in an unusable state, but may > # provide a better stack trace in the core dump to aid in debugging >=20 > # Option "NoTrapSignals" >=20 > # Uncomment this to disable the VT switch sequence > # (where n is 1 through 12). This allows clients to receive these key > # events. >=20 > # Option "DontVTSwitch" >=20 > # Uncomment this to disable the server abort sequence > # This allows clients to receive this key event. >=20 > # Option "DontZap" >=20 > # Uncomment this to disable the / mode switching > # sequences. This allows clients to receive these key events. >=20 > # Option "Dont Zoom" >=20 > # Uncomment this to disable tuning with the xvidtune client. With > # it the client can still run and fetch card and monitor attributes, > # but it will not be allowed to change them. If it tries it will > # receive a protocol error. >=20 > # Option "DisableVidModeExtension" >=20 > # Uncomment this to enable the use of a non-local xvidtune client. >=20 > # Option "AllowNonLocalXvidtune" >=20 > # Uncomment this to disable dynamically modifying the input device > # (mouse and keyboard) settings. >=20 > # Option "DisableModInDev" >=20 > # Uncomment this to enable the use of a non-local client to > # change the keyboard or mouse settings (currently only xset). >=20 > # Option "AllowNonLocalModInDev" >=20 > EndSection >=20 > # ********************************************************************** > # Input devices > # ********************************************************************** >=20 > # ********************************************************************** > # Core keyboard's InputDevice section > # ********************************************************************** >=20 > Section "InputDevice" >=20 > Identifier "Keyboard1" > Driver "kbd" >=20 > # For most OSs the protocol can be omitted (it defaults to "Standard"). > # When using XQUEUE (only for SVR3 and SVR4, but not Solaris), > # uncomment the following line. >=20 > # Option "Protocol" "Xqueue" >=20 > Option "AutoRepeat" "500 30" >=20 > # Specify which keyboard LEDs can be user-controlled (eg, with xset(1)) > # Option "Xleds" "1 2 3" >=20 > # Option "LeftAlt" "Meta" > # Option "RightAlt" "ModeShift" >=20 > # To customise the XKB settings to suit your keyboard, modify the > # lines below (which are the defaults). For example, for a non-U.S. > # keyboard, you will probably want to use: > # Option "XkbModel" "pc105" > # If you have a US Microsoft Natural keyboard, you can use: > # Option "XkbModel" "microsoft" > # > # Then to change the language, change the Layout setting. > # For example, a german layout can be obtained with: > # Option "XkbLayout" "de" > # or: > # Option "XkbLayout" "de" > # Option "XkbVariant" "nodeadkeys" > # > # If you'd like to switch the positions of your capslock and > # control keys, use: > # Option "XkbOptions" "ctrl:swapcaps" >=20 > # These are the default XKB settings for Xorg > # Option "XkbRules" "xorg" > # Option "XkbModel" "pc105" > # Option "XkbLayout" "us" > # Option "XkbVariant" "" > # Option "XkbOptions" "" >=20 > # Option "XkbDisable" >=20 > Option "XkbRules" "xorg" > Option "XkbModel" "pc102" > Option "XkbLayout" "es" >=20 > EndSection >=20 >=20 > # ********************************************************************** > # Core Pointer's InputDevice section > # ********************************************************************** >=20 > Section "InputDevice" >=20 > # Identifier and driver >=20 > Identifier "Mouse1" > Driver "mouse" > Option "Protocol" "Auto" > Option "Device" "/dev/sysmouse" >=20 > # Mouse-speed setting for PS/2 mouse. >=20 > # Option "Resolution" "256" >=20 > # When using XQUEUE, comment out the above two lines, and uncomment > # the following line. >=20 > # Option "Protocol" "Xqueue" >=20 > # Baudrate and SampleRate are only for some Logitech mice. In > # almost every case these lines should be omitted. >=20 > # Option "BaudRate" "9600" > # Option "SampleRate" "150" >=20 > # Emulate3Buttons is an option for 2-button Microsoft mice > # Emulate3Timeout is the timeout in milliseconds (default is 50ms) >=20 > # Option "Emulate3Buttons" > # Option "Emulate3Timeout" "50" >=20 > # ChordMiddle is an option for some 3-button Logitech mice >=20 > # Option "ChordMiddle" >=20 > EndSection >=20 >=20 > # ********************************************************************** > # Other input device sections > # this is optional and is required only if you > # are using extended input devices. This is for example only. Refer > # to the xorg.conf man page for a description of the options. > # ********************************************************************** > # > # Section "InputDevice" > # Identifier "Mouse2" > # Driver "mouse" > # Option "Protocol" "MouseMan" > # Option "Device" "/dev/mouse2" > # EndSection > # > # Section "InputDevice" > # Identifier "spaceball" > # Driver "magellan" > # Option "Device" "/dev/cua0" > # EndSection > # > # Section "InputDevice" > # Identifier "spaceball2" > # Driver "spaceorb" > # Option "Device" "/dev/cua0" > # EndSection > # > # Section "InputDevice" > # Identifier "touchscreen0" > # Driver "microtouch" > # Option "Device" "/dev/ttyS0" > # Option "MinX" "1412" > # Option "MaxX" "15184" > # Option "MinY" "15372" > # Option "MaxY" "1230" > # Option "ScreenNumber" "0" > # Option "ReportingMode" "Scaled" > # Option "ButtonNumber" "1" > # Option "SendCoreEvents" > # EndSection > # > # Section "InputDevice" > # Identifier "touchscreen1" > # Driver "elo2300" > # Option "Device" "/dev/ttyS0" > # Option "MinX" "231" > # Option "MaxX" "3868" > # Option "MinY" "3858" > # Option "MaxY" "272" > # Option "ScreenNumber" "0" > # Option "ReportingMode" "Scaled" > # Option "ButtonThreshold" "17" > # Option "ButtonNumber" "1" > # Option "SendCoreEvents" > # EndSection >=20 > # ********************************************************************** > # Monitor section > # ********************************************************************** >=20 > # Any number of monitor sections may be present >=20 > Section "Monitor" >=20 > Identifier "My Monitor" >=20 > # HorizSync is in kHz unless units are specified. > # HorizSync may be a comma separated list of discrete values, or a > # comma separated list of ranges of values. > # NOTE: THE VALUES HERE ARE EXAMPLES ONLY. REFER TO YOUR MONITOR'S > # USER MANUAL FOR THE CORRECT NUMBERS. >=20 > HorizSync 30-70 >=20 > # HorizSync 30-64 # multisync > # HorizSync 31.5, 35.2 # multiple fixed sync frequencies > # HorizSync 15-25, 30-50 # multiple ranges of sync frequencies >=20 > # VertRefresh is in Hz unless units are specified. > # VertRefresh may be a comma separated list of discrete values, or a > # comma separated list of ranges of values. > # NOTE: THE VALUES HERE ARE EXAMPLES ONLY. REFER TO YOUR MONITOR'S > # USER MANUAL FOR THE CORRECT NUMBERS. >=20 > VertRefresh 50-140 >=20 > EndSection >=20 >=20 > # ********************************************************************** > # Graphics device section > # ********************************************************************** >=20 > # Any number of graphics device sections may be present >=20 > # Standard VGA Device: >=20 > Section "Device" > Identifier "Standard VGA" > VendorName "Unknown" > BoardName "Unknown" >=20 > # The chipset line is optional in most cases. It can be used to override > # the driver's chipset detection, and should not normally be specified. >=20 > # Chipset "generic" >=20 > # The Driver line must be present. When using run-time loadable driver > # modules, this line instructs the server to load the specified driver > # module. Even when not using loadable driver modules, this line > # indicates which driver should interpret the information in this section= . >=20 > Driver "vga" > # The BusID line is used to specify which of possibly multiple devices > # this section is intended for. When this line isn't present, a device > # section can only match up with the primary video device. For PCI > # devices a line like the following could be used. This line should not > # normally be included unless there is more than one video device > # intalled. >=20 > # BusID "PCI:0:10:0" >=20 > # VideoRam 256 >=20 > # Clocks 25.2 28.3 >=20 > EndSection >=20 > # Device configured by xorgconfig: >=20 > Section "Device" > Identifier "Diamond Fire GL 1000 PRO" > Driver "glint" > #VideoRam 8192 > #Option "no_accel" > # Insert Clocks lines here if appropriate > EndSection >=20 >=20 > # ********************************************************************** > # Screen sections > # ********************************************************************** >=20 > # Any number of screen sections may be present. Each describes > # the configuration of a single screen. A single specific screen section > # may be specified from the X server command line with the "-screen" > # option. > Section "Screen" > Identifier "Screen 1" > Device "Diamond Fire GL 1000 PRO" > Monitor "My Monitor" > DefaultDepth 24 >=20 > Subsection "Display" > Depth 8 > Modes "1280x1024" "1024x768" "800x600" "640x480" > ViewPort 0 0 > EndSubsection > Subsection "Display" > Depth 16 > Modes "1280x1024" "1024x768" "800x600" "640x480" > ViewPort 0 0 > EndSubsection > Subsection "Display" > Depth 24 > Modes "1280x1024" "1152x864" "1024x768" "800x600" > ViewPort 0 0 > EndSubsection > EndSection >=20 > # ********************************************************************** > # ServerLayout sections. > # ********************************************************************** >=20 > # Any number of ServerLayout sections may be present. Each describes > # the way multiple screens are organised. A specific ServerLayout > # section may be specified from the X server command line with the > # "-layout" option. In the absence of this, the first section is used. > # When now ServerLayout section is present, the first Screen section > # is used alone. >=20 > Section "ServerLayout" >=20 > # The Identifier line must be present > Identifier "Simple Layout" >=20 > # Each Screen line specifies a Screen section name, and optionally > # the relative position of other screens. The four names after > # primary screen name are the screens to the top, bottom, left and right > # of the primary screen. In this example, screen 2 is located to the > # right of screen 1. >=20 > Screen "Screen 1" >=20 > # Each InputDevice line specifies an InputDevice section name and > # optionally some options to specify the way the device is to be > # used. Those options include "CorePointer", "CoreKeyboard" and > # "SendCoreEvents". >=20 > InputDevice "Mouse1" "CorePointer" > InputDevice "Keyboard1" "CoreKeyboard" >=20 > EndSection >=20 > # Section "DRI" > # Mode 0666 > # EndSection >=20 > *************************************************************************= ****************************** > *************************************************************************= ****************************** > This is my X.org.0.log with this setup > *************************************************************************= ****************************** > *************************************************************************= ****************************** >=20 > X Window System Version 6.8.2 > Release Date: 9 February 2005 > X Protocol Version 11, Revision 0, Release 6.8.2 > Build Operating System: FreeBSD 5.4 i386 [ELF] > Current Operating System: FreeBSD devhora 5.4-RELEASE-p2 FreeBSD > 5.4-RELEASE-p2 #0: Sat Jun 25 07:30:12 PDT 2005 > root@devhora:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/DEVHORA i386 > Build Date: 04 April 2005 > Before reporting problems, check http://wiki.X.Org > to make sure that you have the latest version. > Module Loader present > Markers: (--) probed, (**) from config file, (=3D=3D) default setting, > (++) from command line, (!!) notice, (II) informational, > (WW) warning, (EE) error, (NI) not implemented, (??) unknown. > (=3D=3D) Log file: "/var/log/Xorg.0.log", Time: Mon Jun 27 23:20:30 2005 > (=3D=3D) Using config file: "/etc/X11/xorg.conf" > (=3D=3D) ServerLayout "Simple Layout" > (**) |-->Screen "Screen 1" (0) > (**) | |-->Monitor "My Monitor" > (**) | |-->Device "Diamond Fire GL 1000 PRO" > (**) |-->Input Device "Mouse1" > (**) |-->Input Device "Keyboard1" > (WW) `fonts.dir' not found (or not valid) in "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/lo= cal/". > Entry deleted from font path. > (Run 'mkfontdir' on "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/local/"). > (**) FontPath set to > "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/misc/,/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/TTF/,/usr/X11R6/= lib/X11/fonts/Type1/,/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi/,/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fon= ts/100dpi/" > (**) RgbPath set to "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/rgb" > (=3D=3D) ModulePath set to "/usr/X11R6/lib/modules" > (II) Module ABI versions: > X.Org ANSI C Emulation: 0.2 > X.Org Video Driver: 0.7 > X.Org XInput driver : 0.4 > X.Org Server Extension : 0.2 > X.Org Font Renderer : 0.4 > (II) Loader running on freebsd > (II) LoadModule: "bitmap" > (II) Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/fonts/libbitmap.a > (II) Module bitmap: vendor=3D"X.Org Foundation" > compiled for 6.8.2, module version =3D 1.0.0 > Module class: X.Org Font Renderer > ABI class: X.Org Font Renderer, version 0.4 > (II) Loading font Bitmap > (II) LoadModule: "pcidata" > (II) Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/libpcidata.a > (II) Module pcidata: vendor=3D"X.Org Foundation" > compiled for 6.8.2, module version =3D 1.0.0 > ABI class: X.Org Video Driver, version 0.7 > (--) Using 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=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F62] > -1 0 0xfebd0000 - 0xfebdffff (0x10000) MX[B](B) > [3] -1 0 0xfd800000 - 0xfdffffff (0x800000) MX[B](B) > [4] -1 0 0xfe000000 - 0xfe7fffff (0x800000) MX[B](B) > [5] -1 0 0xfebe0000 - 0xfebfffff (0x20000) MX[B](B) > [6] -1 0 0x0000ef00 - 0x0000efff (0x100) IX[B]E > [7] -1 0 0x0000ef80 - 0x0000efff (0x80) IX[B]E > [8] -1 0 0x0000ffa0 - 0x0000ffbf (0x20) IX[B]E > (II) PCI I/O resource overlap reduced 0x0000ef00 from 0x0000efff to 0x000= 0ef7f > (II) Active PCI resource ranges after removing overlaps: > [0] -1 0 0xfebb8000 - 0xfebbffff (0x8000) MX[B]E > [1] -1 0 0xf8000000 - 0xf7ffffff (0x0) MX[B]EO > [2] -1 0 0xfebd0000 - 0xfebdffff (0x10000) MX[B](B) > [3] -1 0 0xfd800000 - 0xfdffffff (0x800000) MX[B](B) > [4] -1 0 0xfe000000 - 0xfe7fffff (0x800000) MX[B](B) > [5] -1 0 0xfebe0000 - 0xfebfffff (0x20000) MX[B](B) > [6] -1 0 0x0000ef00 - 0x0000ef7f (0x80) IX[B]E > [7] -1 0 0x0000ef80 - 0x0000efff (0x80) IX[B]E > [8] -1 0 0x0000ffa0 - 0x0000ffbf (0x20) IX[B]E > (II) OS-reported resource ranges after removing overlaps with PCI: > [0] -1 0 0xffe00000 - 0xffffffff (0x200000) MX[B](B) > [1] -1 0 0x00100000 - 0x3fffffff (0x3ff00000) MX[B]E(B) > [2] -1 0 0x000f0000 - 0x000fffff (0x10000) MX[B] > [3] -1 0 0x000c0000 - 0x000effff (0x30000) MX[B] > [4] -1 0 0x00000000 - 0x0009ffff (0xa0000) MX[B] > [5] -1 0 0x0000ffff - 0x0000ffff (0x1) IX[B] > [6] -1 0 0x00000000 - 0x000000ff (0x100) IX[B] > (II) All system resource ranges: > [0] -1 0 0xffe00000 - 0xffffffff (0x200000) MX[B](B) > [1] -1 0 0x00100000 - 0x3fffffff (0x3ff00000) MX[B]E(B) > [2] -1 0 0x000f0000 - 0x000fffff (0x10000) MX[B] > [3] -1 0 0x000c0000 - 0x000effff (0x30000) MX[B] > [4] -1 0 0x00000000 - 0x0009ffff (0xa0000) MX[B] > [5] -1 0 0xfebb8000 - 0xfebbffff (0x8000) MX[B]E > [6] -1 0 0xf8000000 - 0xf7ffffff (0x0) MX[B]EO > [7] -1 0 0xfebd0000 - 0xfebdffff (0x10000) MX[B](B) > [8] -1 0 0xfd800000 - 0xfdffffff (0x800000) MX[B](B) > [9] -1 0 0xfe000000 - 0xfe7fffff (0x800000) MX[B](B) > [10] -1 0 0xfebe0000 - 0xfebfffff (0x20000) MX[B](B) > [11] -1 0 0x0000ffff - 0x0000ffff (0x1) IX[B] > [12] -1 0 0x00000000 - 0x000000ff (0x100) IX[B] > [13] -1 0 0x0000ef00 - 0x0000ef7f (0x80) IX[B]E > [14] -1 0 0x0000ef80 - 0x0000efff (0x80) IX[B]E > [15] -1 0 0x0000ffa0 - 0x0000ffbf (0x20) IX[B]E > (II) LoadModule: "dbe" > (II) Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/extensions/libdbe.a > (II) Module dbe: vendor=3D"X.Org Foundation" > compiled for 6.8.2, module version =3D 1.0.0 > Module class: X.Org Server Extension > ABI class: X.Org Server Extension, version 0.2 > (II) Loading extension DOUBLE-BUFFER > (II) LoadModule: "extmod" > (II) Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/extensions/libextmod.a > (II) Module extmod: vendor=3D"X.Org Foundation" > compiled for 6.8.2, module version =3D 1.0.0 > Module class: X.Org Server Extension > ABI class: X.Org Server Extension, version 0.2 > (II) Loading extension SHAPE > (II) Loading extension MIT-SUNDRY-NONSTANDARD > (II) Loading extension BIG-REQUESTS > (II) Loading extension SYNC > (II) Loading extension MIT-SCREEN-SAVER > (II) Loading extension XC-MISC > (II) Loading extension XFree86-VidModeExtension > (II) Loading extension XFree86-Misc > (II) Loading extension DPMS > (II) Loading extension TOG-CUP > (II) Loading extension Extended-Visual-Information > (II) Loading extension XVideo > (II) Loading extension XVideo-MotionCompensation > (II) Loading extension X-Resource > (II) LoadModule: "type1" > (II) Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/fonts/libtype1.a > (II) Module type1: vendor=3D"X.Org Foundation" > compiled for 6.8.2, module version =3D 1.0.2 > Module class: X.Org Font Renderer > ABI class: X.Org Font Renderer, version 0.4 > (II) Loading font Type1 > (II) Loading font CID > (II) LoadModule: "freetype" > (II) Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/fonts/libfreetype.so > (II) Module freetype: vendor=3D"X.Org Foundation & the After X-TT Project= " > compiled for 6.8.2, module version =3D 2.1.0 > Module class: X.Org Font Renderer > ABI class: X.Org Font Renderer, version 0.4 > (II) Loading font FreeType > (II) LoadModule: "glint" > (II) Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/drivers/glint_drv.o > (II) Module glint: vendor=3D"X.Org Foundation" > compiled for 6.8.2, module version =3D 1.0.0 > Module class: X.Org Video Driver > ABI class: X.Org Video Driver, version 0.7 > (II) LoadModule: "mouse" > (II) Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/input/mouse_drv.o > (II) Module mouse: vendor=3D"X.Org Foundation" > compiled for 6.8.2, module version =3D 1.0.0 > Module class: X.Org XInput Driver > ABI class: X.Org XInput driver, version 0.4 > (II) LoadModule: "kbd" > (II) Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/input/kbd_drv.o > (II) Module kbd: vendor=3D"X.Org Foundation" > compiled for 6.8.2, module version =3D 1.0.0 > Module class: X.Org XInput Driver > ABI class: X.Org XInput driver, version 0.4 > (II) GLINT: driver for 3Dlabs chipsets: gamma, gamma2, ti_pm2, ti_pm, r4, > pm4, pm3, pm2v, pm2, pm, 300sx, 500tx, mx, delta > (II) Primary Device is: PCI 00:10:0 > (--) Assigning device section with no busID to primary device > (--) Chipset ti_pm2 found > (II) resource ranges after xf86ClaimFixedResources() call: > [0] -1 0 0xffe00000 - 0xffffffff (0x200000) MX[B](B) > [1] -1 0 0x00100000 - 0x3fffffff (0x3ff00000) MX[B]E(B) > [2] -1 0 0x000f0000 - 0x000fffff (0x10000) MX[B] > [3] -1 0 0x000c0000 - 0x000effff (0x30000) MX[B] > [4] -1 0 0x00000000 - 0x0009ffff (0xa0000) MX[B] > [5] -1 0 0xfebb8000 - 0xfebbffff (0x8000) MX[B]E > [6] -1 0 0xf8000000 - 0xf7ffffff (0x0) MX[B]EO > [7] -1 0 0xfebd0000 - 0xfebdffff (0x10000) MX[B](B) > [8] -1 0 0xfd800000 - 0xfdffffff (0x800000) MX[B](B) > [9] -1 0 0xfe000000 - 0xfe7fffff (0x800000) MX[B](B) > [10] -1 0 0xfebe0000 - 0xfebfffff (0x20000) MX[B](B) > [11] -1 0 0x0000ffff - 0x0000ffff (0x1) IX[B] > [12] -1 0 0x00000000 - 0x000000ff (0x100) IX[B] > [13] -1 0 0x0000ef00 - 0x0000ef7f (0x80) IX[B]E > [14] -1 0 0x0000ef80 - 0x0000efff (0x80) IX[B]E > [15] -1 0 0x0000ffa0 - 0x0000ffbf (0x20) IX[B]E > (II) resource ranges after probing: > [0] -1 0 0xffe00000 - 0xffffffff (0x200000) MX[B](B) > [1] -1 0 0x00100000 - 0x3fffffff (0x3ff00000) MX[B]E(B) > [2] -1 0 0x000f0000 - 0x000fffff (0x10000) MX[B] > [3] -1 0 0x000c0000 - 0x000effff (0x30000) MX[B] > [4] -1 0 0x00000000 - 0x0009ffff (0xa0000) MX[B] > [5] -1 0 0xfebb8000 - 0xfebbffff (0x8000) MX[B]E > [6] -1 0 0xf8000000 - 0xf7ffffff (0x0) MX[B]EO > [7] -1 0 0xfebd0000 - 0xfebdffff (0x10000) MX[B](B) > [8] -1 0 0xfd800000 - 0xfdffffff (0x800000) MX[B](B) > [9] -1 0 0xfe000000 - 0xfe7fffff (0x800000) MX[B](B) > [10] -1 0 0xfebe0000 - 0xfebfffff (0x20000) MX[B](B) > [11] 0 0 0x000a0000 - 0x000affff (0x10000) MS[B] > [12] 0 0 0x000b0000 - 0x000b7fff (0x8000) MS[B] > [13] 0 0 0x000b8000 - 0x000bffff (0x8000) MS[B] > [14] -1 0 0x0000ffff - 0x0000ffff (0x1) IX[B] > [15] -1 0 0x00000000 - 0x000000ff (0x100) IX[B] > [16] -1 0 0x0000ef00 - 0x0000ef7f (0x80) IX[B]E > [17] -1 0 0x0000ef80 - 0x0000efff (0x80) IX[B]E > [18] -1 0 0x0000ffa0 - 0x0000ffbf (0x20) IX[B]E > [19] 0 0 0x000003b0 - 0x000003bb (0xc) IS[B] > [20] 0 0 0x000003c0 - 0x000003df (0x20) IS[B] > (II) Setting vga for screen 0. > (**) GLINT(0): Depth 24, (--) framebuffer bpp 32 > (=3D=3D) GLINT(0): RGB weight 888 > (=3D=3D) GLINT(0): Default visual is TrueColor > (=3D=3D) GLINT(0): Using gamma correction (1.0, 1.0, 1.0) > (=3D=3D) GLINT(0): Using HW cursor > (--) GLINT(0): Not using Linux framebuffer device > (--) GLINT(0): Chipset: "ti_pm2" > (--) GLINT(0): Linear framebuffer at 0xFD800000 > (--) GLINT(0): MMIO registers at 0xFEBE0000 > (=3D=3D) GLINT(0): Write-combining range (0xfebe0000,0x20000) was already= clear > (=3D=3D) GLINT(0): Write-combining range (0xfebe0000,0x20000) was already= clear > (--) GLINT(0): VideoRAM: 8192 kByte > (II) Loading sub module "ramdac" > (II) LoadModule: "ramdac" > (II) Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/libramdac.a > (II) Module ramdac: vendor=3D"X.Org Foundation" > compiled for 6.8.2, module version =3D 0.1.0 > ABI class: X.Org Video Driver, version 0.7 > (--) GLINT(0): FIFO Size is 256 DWORDS > (=3D=3D) GLINT(0): Min pixel clock is 16 MHz > (--) GLINT(0): Max pixel clock is 110 MHz > (II) GLINT(0): My Monitor: Using hsync range of 30.00-70.00 kHz > (II) GLINT(0): My Monitor: Using vrefresh range of 50.00-140.00 Hz > (II) GLINT(0): Clock range: 16.25 to 110.00 MHz > (II) GLINT(0): Not using default mode "320x175" (bad mode > clock/interlace/doublescan) > (II) GLINT(0): Not using default mode "320x200" (bad mode > clock/interlace/doublescan) > (II) GLINT(0): Not using default mode "360x200" (bad mode > clock/interlace/doublescan) > (II) GLINT(0): Not using default mode "320x240" (bad mode > clock/interlace/doublescan) > (II) GLINT(0): Not using default mode "320x240" (bad mode > clock/interlace/doublescan) > (II) GLINT(0): Not using default mode "320x240" (bad mode > clock/interlace/doublescan) > (II) GLINT(0): Not using default mode "320x240" (bad mode > clock/interlace/doublescan) > (II) GLINT(0): Not using default mode "400x300" (bad mode > clock/interlace/doublescan) > (II) GLINT(0): Not using default mode "400x300" (bad mode > clock/interlace/doublescan) > (II) GLINT(0): Not using default mode "400x300" (bad mode > clock/interlace/doublescan) > (II) GLINT(0): Not using default mode "400x300" (bad mode > clock/interlace/doublescan) > (II) GLINT(0): Not using default mode "400x300" (bad mode > clock/interlace/doublescan) > (II) GLINT(0): Not using default mode "1024x768" (bad mode > clock/interlace/doublescan) > (II) GLINT(0): Not using default mode "512x384" (bad mode > clock/interlace/doublescan) > (II) GLINT(0): Not using default mode "512x384" (bad mode > clock/interlace/doublescan) > (II) GLINT(0): Not using default mode "512x384" (bad mode > clock/interlace/doublescan) > (II) GLINT(0): Not using default mode "512x384" (bad mode > clock/interlace/doublescan) > (II) GLINT(0): Not using default mode "512x384" (bad mode > clock/interlace/doublescan) > (II) GLINT(0): Not using default mode "576x432" (bad mode > clock/interlace/doublescan) > (II) GLINT(0): Not using default mode "640x480" (bad mode > clock/interlace/doublescan) > (II) GLINT(0): Not using default mode "1280x960" (bad mode > clock/interlace/doublescan) > (II) GLINT(0): Not using default mode "640x480" (bad mode > clock/interlace/doublescan) > (II) GLINT(0): Not using default mode "640x512" (bad mode > clock/interlace/doublescan) > (II) GLINT(0): Not using default mode "1280x1024" (bad mode > clock/interlace/doublescan) > (II) GLINT(0): Not using default mode "640x512" (bad mode > clock/interlace/doublescan) > (II) GLINT(0): Not using default mode "1280x1024" (bad mode > clock/interlace/doublescan) > (II) GLINT(0): Not using default mode "640x512" (bad mode > clock/interlace/doublescan) > (II) GLINT(0): Not using default mode "1600x1200" (bad mode > clock/interlace/doublescan) > (II) GLINT(0): Not using default mode "800x600" (bad mode > clock/interlace/doublescan) > (II) GLINT(0): Not using default mode "1600x1200" (bad mode > clock/interlace/doublescan) > (II) GLINT(0): Not using default mode "800x600" (bad mode > clock/interlace/doublescan) > (II) GLINT(0): Not using default mode "1600x1200" (bad mode > clock/interlace/doublescan) > (II) GLINT(0): Not using default mode "800x600" (bad mode > clock/interlace/doublescan) > (II) GLINT(0): Not using default mode "1600x1200" (bad mode > clock/interlace/doublescan) > (II) GLINT(0): Not using default mode "800x600" (bad mode > clock/interlace/doublescan) > (II) GLINT(0): Not using default mode "1600x1200" (bad mode > clock/interlace/doublescan) > (II) GLINT(0): Not using default mode "800x600" (bad mode > clock/interlace/doublescan) > (II) GLINT(0): Not using default mode "1792x1344" (insufficient memory fo= r mode) > (II) GLINT(0): Not using default mode "896x672" (bad mode > clock/interlace/doublescan) > (II) GLINT(0): Not using default mode "1792x1344" (insufficient memory fo= r mode) > (II) GLINT(0): Not using default mode "896x672" (bad mode > clock/interlace/doublescan) > (II) GLINT(0): Not using default mode "1856x1392" (insufficient memory fo= r mode) > (II) GLINT(0): Not using default mode "928x696" (bad mode > clock/interlace/doublescan) > (II) GLINT(0): Not using default mode "1856x1392" (insufficient memory fo= r mode) > (II) GLINT(0): Not using default mode "928x696" (bad mode > clock/interlace/doublescan) > (II) GLINT(0): Not using default mode "1920x1440" (insufficient memory fo= r mode) > (II) GLINT(0): Not using default mode "960x720" (bad mode > clock/interlace/doublescan) > (II) GLINT(0): Not using default mode "1920x1440" (insufficient memory fo= r mode) > (II) GLINT(0): Not using default mode "960x720" (bad mode > clock/interlace/doublescan) > (II) GLINT(0): Not using default mode "416x312" (bad mode > clock/interlace/doublescan) > (II) GLINT(0): Not using default mode "576x384" (bad mode > clock/interlace/doublescan) > (II) GLINT(0): Not using default mode "1400x1050" (bad mode > clock/interlace/doublescan) > (II) GLINT(0): Not using default mode "700x525" (bad mode > clock/interlace/doublescan) > (II) GLINT(0): Not using default mode "1400x1050" (bad mode > clock/interlace/doublescan) > (II) GLINT(0): Not using default mode "700x525" (bad mode > clock/interlace/doublescan) > (II) GLINT(0): Not using default mode "800x512" (bad mode > clock/interlace/doublescan) > (II) GLINT(0): Not using default mode "1920x1440" (insufficient memory fo= r mode) > (II) GLINT(0): Not using default mode "960x720" (bad mode > clock/interlace/doublescan) > (II) GLINT(0): Not using default mode "2048x1536" (insufficient memory fo= r mode) > (II) GLINT(0): Not using default mode "1024x768" (bad mode > clock/interlace/doublescan) > (II) GLINT(0): Not using default mode "2048x1536" (insufficient memory fo= r mode) > (II) GLINT(0): Not using default mode "1024x768" (bad mode > clock/interlace/doublescan) > (II) GLINT(0): Not using default mode "2048x1536" (insufficient memory fo= r mode) > (II) GLINT(0): Not using default mode "1024x768" (bad mode > clock/interlace/doublescan) > (--) GLINT(0): Virtual size is 1280x1024 (pitch 1280) > (**) GLINT(0): *Default mode "1280x1024": 108.0 MHz, 64.0 kHz, 60.0 Hz > (II) GLINT(0): Modeline "1280x1024" 108.00 1280 1328 1440 1688 1024 > 1025 1028 1066 +hsync +vsync > (**) GLINT(0): *Default mode "1152x864": 108.0 MHz, 67.5 kHz, 75.0 Hz > (II) GLINT(0): Modeline "1152x864" 108.00 1152 1216 1344 1600 864 > 865 868 900 +hsync +vsync > (**) GLINT(0): *Default mode "1024x768": 94.5 MHz, 68.7 kHz, 85.0 Hz > (II) GLINT(0): Modeline "1024x768" 94.50 1024 1072 1168 1376 768 > 769 772 808 +hsync +vsync > (**) GLINT(0): *Default mode "800x600": 56.3 MHz, 53.7 kHz, 85.1 Hz > (II) GLINT(0): Modeline "800x600" 56.30 800 832 896 1048 600 601 > 604 631 +hsync +vsync > (**) GLINT(0): Default mode "1280x960": 108.0 MHz, 60.0 kHz, 60.0 Hz > (II) GLINT(0): Modeline "1280x960" 108.00 1280 1376 1488 1800 960 > 961 964 1000 +hsync +vsync > (**) GLINT(0): Default mode "1152x768": 65.0 MHz, 44.2 kHz, 54.8 Hz > (II) GLINT(0): Modeline "1152x768" 65.00 1152 1178 1314 1472 768 > 771 777 806 +hsync +vsync > (**) GLINT(0): Default mode "1024x768": 78.8 MHz, 60.1 kHz, 75.1 Hz > (II) GLINT(0): Modeline "1024x768" 78.80 1024 1040 1136 1312 768 > 769 772 800 +hsync +vsync > (**) GLINT(0): Default mode "1024x768": 75.0 MHz, 56.5 kHz, 70.1 Hz > (II) GLINT(0): Modeline "1024x768" 75.00 1024 1048 1184 1328 768 > 771 777 806 -hsync -vsync > (**) GLINT(0): Default mode "1024x768": 65.0 MHz, 48.4 kHz, 60.0 Hz > (II) GLINT(0): Modeline "1024x768" 65.00 1024 1048 1184 1344 768 > 771 777 806 -hsync -vsync > (**) GLINT(0): Default mode "832x624": 57.3 MHz, 49.7 kHz, 74.6 Hz > (II) GLINT(0): Modeline "832x624" 57.28 832 864 928 1152 624 625 > 628 667 -hsync -vsync > (**) GLINT(0): Default mode "800x600": 49.5 MHz, 46.9 kHz, 75.0 Hz > (II) GLINT(0): Modeline "800x600" 49.50 800 816 896 1056 600 601 > 604 625 +hsync +vsync > (**) GLINT(0): Default mode "800x600": 50.0 MHz, 48.1 kHz, 72.2 Hz > (II) GLINT(0): Modeline "800x600" 50.00 800 856 976 1040 600 637 > 643 666 +hsync +vsync > (**) GLINT(0): Default mode "800x600": 40.0 MHz, 37.9 kHz, 60.3 Hz > (II) GLINT(0): Modeline "800x600" 40.00 800 840 968 1056 600 601 > 605 628 +hsync +vsync > (**) GLINT(0): Default mode "800x600": 36.0 MHz, 35.2 kHz, 56.2 Hz > (II) GLINT(0): Modeline "800x600" 36.00 800 824 896 1024 600 601 > 603 625 +hsync +vsync > (**) GLINT(0): Default mode "640x480": 36.0 MHz, 43.3 kHz, 85.0 Hz > (II) GL=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6= =F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6= =F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6= =F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6= =F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6= 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=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6= =F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6= =F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F6=F60 > 656 752 800 480 490 492 525 -hsync -vsync > (**) GLINT(0): Default mode "720x400": 35.5 MHz, 37.9 kHz, 85.0 Hz > (II) GLINT(0): Modeline "720x400" 35.50 720 756 828 936 400 401 > 404 446 -hsync +vsync > (**) GLINT(0): Default mode "640x400": 31.5 MHz, 37.9 kHz, 85.1 Hz > (II) GLINT(0): Modeline "640x400" 31.50 640 672 736 832 400 401 > 404 445 -hsync +vsync > (**) GLINT(0): Default mode "640x350": 31.5 MHz, 37.9 kHz, 85.1 Hz > (II) GLINT(0): Modeline "640x350" 31.50 640 672 736 832 350 382 > 385 445 +hsync -vsync > (=3D=3D) GLINT(0): DPI set to (75, 75) > (II) Loading sub module "fb" > (II) LoadModule: "fb" > (II) Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/libfb.a > (II) Module fb: vendor=3D"X.Org Foundati... >=20 > [Message clipped] Ok, after try with freebsd 5.2.1 and make the buildworld stuff. I install Xorg 6.7.0 from packages and look this my keyboard is working on X, but here dosent appear the kbd driver, we still use keyboard. I will try now with Freebsd 5.3 and see the result, the thing here is that maybe the new driver(kbd) need to be check. Thanks to all. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jul 5 18:15:58 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AB1B516A41F for ; Tue, 5 Jul 2005 18:15:58 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from cswiger@mac.com) Received: from pi.codefab.com (pi.codefab.com [199.103.21.227]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6D59843D49 for ; Tue, 5 Jul 2005 18:15:58 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from cswiger@mac.com) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pi.codefab.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B57285F75; Tue, 5 Jul 2005 14:15:57 -0400 (EDT) Received: from pi.codefab.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (pi.codefab.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 06259-05; Tue, 5 Jul 2005 14:15:48 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [192.168.1.3] (pool-68-161-54-113.ny325.east.verizon.net [68.161.54.113]) by pi.codefab.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 056FB5EE7; Tue, 5 Jul 2005 14:15:47 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <42CACE54.8090103@mac.com> Date: Tue, 05 Jul 2005 14:15:48 -0400 From: Chuck Swiger Organization: The Courts of Chaos User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.8) Gecko/20050511 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: scuba@centroin.com.br References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at codefab.com Cc: FreeBSD questions Subject: Re: Where is the memory X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 05 Jul 2005 18:15:58 -0000 scuba@centroin.com.br wrote: [ ... ] > My problem is that I think something in the system is allocating > memory and not releasing it. The kernel will attempt to use all but a little RAM reserved as free space to cache stuff from disk, unless and until that memory is needed for something else. It is possible that something you run, or FreeBSD itself, has a memory leak, but if so, you'd see process sizes and swap usage grow until they hit a limit or exhaust the available resources. You're not using any swap, so it's not evident that there is a problem. > The same applications used to run on a Freebsd 4.7 BOX with 1GB > RAM, and only in some few cases had to swap out. > Now, I´m moving to another machine with 2GB RAM, and I´m seeing > where is the extra memory. I expected to have more free memory now. Free memory is wasted memory. -- -Chuck From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jul 5 18:18:36 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8C02516A41C for ; Tue, 5 Jul 2005 18:18:36 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from kris@obsecurity.org) Received: from obsecurity.dyndns.org (CPE0050040655c8-CM00111ae02aac.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com [69.194.102.232]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6316B43D4C for ; Tue, 5 Jul 2005 18:18:35 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from kris@obsecurity.org) Received: by obsecurity.dyndns.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id E956D5130C; Tue, 5 Jul 2005 14:18:33 -0400 (EDT) Date: Tue, 5 Jul 2005 14:18:33 -0400 From: Kris Kennaway To: scuba@centroin.com.br Message-ID: <20050705181833.GA30166@xor.obsecurity.org> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="YiEDa0DAkWCtVeE4" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Cc: Hornet , FreeBSD questions Subject: Re: Where is the memory X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 05 Jul 2005 18:18:36 -0000 --YiEDa0DAkWCtVeE4 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Tue, Jul 05, 2005 at 02:59:55PM -0300, scuba@centroin.com.br wrote: > Hi, >=20 > On Mon, 4 Jul 2005, Hornet wrote: >=20 > |In top, if you type in "u" it will prompt you for an account which you > |can monitor the processes and mem. Of course, this will not work for > |apps that are opened under different credentials. >=20 > And does not change the amount of total free memory. > My problem is that I think something in the system is allocating > memory and not releasing it. > The same applications used to run on a Freebsd 4.7 BOX with 1GB > RAM, and only in some few cases had to swap out. > Now, I?m moving to another machine with 2GB RAM, and I?m seeing > where is the extra memory. I expected to have more free memory now. "Free memory is wasted memory". When something needs it, it will be reallocated from other areas. This is a FAQ. Kris --YiEDa0DAkWCtVeE4 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.1 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFCys75Wry0BWjoQKURAgePAJ9pGzw22b/kryUq39jqBXo1eL7+GgCg1Mos PYqAtZanMLKWAh65qIec8do= =UauV -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --YiEDa0DAkWCtVeE4-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jul 5 18:21:04 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A207E16A41C for ; Tue, 5 Jul 2005 18:21:04 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from do.you.got.root@gmail.com) Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.204]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5BB1743D53 for ; Tue, 5 Jul 2005 18:21:04 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from do.you.got.root@gmail.com) Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id i4so983615wra for ; Tue, 05 Jul 2005 11:21:03 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=hWrJAetpzrx9Zmv6V8J7sL8RVpD/RnSZ/fXRgbEOfnp68/SbAOx3m+jg5QIC3/nUVBwRnRnxKl5FwuA4eW+BPxVHLDISafHQ6NURVIaD3z+rgloWLjRK7BiDA3/Oahvgs+oYe0mwbVp+tii//IzLeb7vEEsqLqQPH+rJfukpXo0= Received: by 10.54.53.15 with SMTP id b15mr4548749wra; Tue, 05 Jul 2005 11:21:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.78.3 with HTTP; Tue, 5 Jul 2005 11:21:03 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Tue, 5 Jul 2005 14:21:03 -0400 From: Todd Suits To: "Andrew L. Gould" In-Reply-To: <200507051119.12128.algould@datawok.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline References: <200507051119.12128.algould@datawok.com> Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Apache 2 SSL Error X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Todd Suits List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 05 Jul 2005 18:21:04 -0000 https:// is what im trying to use. http:// just brings my normal index.html page. On 7/5/05, Andrew L. Gould wrote: > On Tuesday 05 July 2005 11:01 am, Todd Suits wrote: > > I set up a FreeBSD 4.11 jail to learn how to setup SSL on Apache 2 > > correctly. I installed Apache 2.0.54 from ports. I generated SSL > > certs just for testing purposes. I'm not able to get any response at > > all from the server on SSL unless I set the Listen :443 directive in > > the httpd.conf as where I think it is supposed to be set in ssl.conf. > > I get the following error in httpd-error.log: > > > > [Tue Jul 05 10:15:28 2005] [error] [client 24.123.123.123] Invalid > > method in request \x80g\x01\x03 > > > > As this is just temporary and for testing purposes I have posted the > > configs online as they are quite big and this is a work in progress, > > see links below. > > > > http://www.beerdrinka.com/httpd.conf > > > > http://www.beerdrinka.com/ssl.conf > > > > I keep re-reading the apache docs but there is just something I am > > missing. As a note I have also tried this in a non-jail environment > > on 5.3 p16 and get the same error results. >=20 > When trying to use SSL, are you using a URL with "http://" or > "https://"? >=20 > Andrew Gould > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jul 5 18:24:38 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 83A4D16A41C for ; Tue, 5 Jul 2005 18:24:38 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from albi@scii.nl) Received: from post-24.mail.nl.demon.net (post-24.mail.nl.demon.net [194.159.73.194]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 443EF43D46 for ; Tue, 5 Jul 2005 18:24:38 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from albi@scii.nl) Received: from aseed.demon.nl ([83.160.138.119]:10044 helo=mail.aseed.antenna.nl) by post-24.mail.nl.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Dps61-0001GR-DS; Tue, 05 Jul 2005 18:24:37 +0000 Received: from http.aseed.antenna.nl (unknown [192.168.0.50]) by mail.aseed.antenna.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 066DF154476; Tue, 5 Jul 2005 20:26:17 +0200 (CEST) Received: from localhost.localdomain (217-19-30-147.dsl.cambrium.nl [217.19.30.147]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by http.aseed.antenna.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id EA82758C606; Tue, 5 Jul 2005 20:24:37 +0200 (CEST) Date: Tue, 5 Jul 2005 20:24:35 +0200 From: "albi@scii.nl" To: Todd Suits Message-Id: <20050705202435.628d4783.albi@scii.nl> In-Reply-To: References: <200507051119.12128.algould@datawok.com> X-Mailer: Sylpheed version 1.0.4 (GTK+ 1.2.10; i386-pc-linux-gnu) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Apache 2 SSL Error X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 05 Jul 2005 18:24:38 -0000 On Tue, 5 Jul 2005 14:21:03 -0400 Todd Suits wrote: > https:// is what im trying to use. http:// just brings my normal > index.html page. ---cut--- > > > I get the following error in httpd-error.log: > > > > > > [Tue Jul 05 10:15:28 2005] [error] [client 24.123.123.123] Invalid > > > method in request \x80g\x01\x03 are you using a hardware-router or something ? if so, did you open the 443 port on that router and set up portforwarding to port 443 ? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jul 5 18:32:54 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3258F16A41C for ; Tue, 5 Jul 2005 18:32:54 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from fbsd_user@a1poweruser.com) Received: from mta10.adelphia.net (mta10.adelphia.net [68.168.78.202]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DBDD043D46 for ; Tue, 5 Jul 2005 18:32:53 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from fbsd_user@a1poweruser.com) Received: from barbish ([69.172.31.81]) by mta10.adelphia.net (InterMail vM.6.01.04.01 201-2131-118-101-20041129) with SMTP id <20050705183253.LCJE19267.mta10.adelphia.net@barbish> for ; Tue, 5 Jul 2005 14:32:53 -0400 From: "fbsd_user" To: "freebsd-questions@FreeBSD. ORG" Date: Tue, 5 Jul 2005 14:32:48 -0400 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.6604 (9.0.2911.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1409 Importance: Normal Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: Subject: PF firewall using anchors X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: fbsd_user@a1poweruser.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 05 Jul 2005 18:32:54 -0000 I am running 5.4 using the run time loadable module for PF firewall. The PF rules load and work fine. The main rule set contains 2 anchor rules. I can add rules to the in core anchor name and then list the anchor and see the rules are really there. Problem is the anchor rules are never being executed by the main rule set. Is there anybody on this questions list who has PF working with anchors? Have read all the PF man pages 6-8 times and my config seems ok. Knowing that PF is new to FreeBSD base in 5.4 so thinking this may be a bug. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jul 5 18:48:14 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 74DF716A41C for ; Tue, 5 Jul 2005 18:48:14 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ws@au.dyndns.ws) Received: from smtp3.adl2.internode.on.net (smtp3.adl2.internode.on.net [203.16.214.203]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E17AB43D49 for ; Tue, 5 Jul 2005 18:48:13 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ws@au.dyndns.ws) Received: from lillith-iv.ovirt.dyndns.ws (ppp103-111.static.internode.on.net [150.101.103.111]) by smtp3.adl2.internode.on.net (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id j65ImBEh006002; Wed, 6 Jul 2005 04:18:12 +0930 (CST) X-Envelope-From: ws@au.dyndns.ws X-Envelope-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from [192.168.1.194] ([192.168.1.194]) by lillith-iv.ovirt.dyndns.ws (8.13.3/8.13.3) with ESMTP id j65Ilrie070183; Wed, 6 Jul 2005 04:17:53 +0930 (CST) (envelope-from ws@au.dyndns.ws) From: Wayne Sierke To: Chuck Swiger In-Reply-To: <42CAC5B3.6070400@mac.com> References: <1120584597.57575.51.camel@au.dyndns.ws> <42CAC5B3.6070400@mac.com> Content-Type: text/plain Date: Wed, 06 Jul 2005 04:17:52 +0930 Message-Id: <1120589272.57575.81.camel@au.dyndns.ws> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.2.2 FreeBSD GNOME Team Port Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.51 on 192.168.1.142 X-Scanned-By: SpamAssassin 3.000003(2005-04-27) X-Scanned-By: F-Prot X-Scanned-By: ClamAV X-Spam-Score: -2.82 () ALL_TRUSTED Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: squid bind to port 80 fails when started via squid.sh script X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 05 Jul 2005 18:48:14 -0000 On Tue, 2005-07-05 at 13:38 -0400, Chuck Swiger wrote: > Wayne Sierke wrote: > > FreeBSD 5.4-RELEASE/squid-2.5.9_3 > > > > If I start squid via the script (as root), I get: > > > > /var/log/squid_cache.log: > > > > commBind: Cannot bind socket FD 11 to *:80: (13) Permission denied > > FATAL: Cannot open HTTP Port > > Squid Cache (Version 2.5.STABLE9): Terminated abnormally. > > The squid startup script probably changes to a non-root user before running the > squid binary, which means that squid cannot bind to a port below 1024. > Normally, people run squid on port 3128, although 8080 is also relatively common. You are exactly right, of course. I hadn't been able to spot anything obvious as to where that might be happening in the script so after your response I was prompted to grep through /etc/rc.subr. I now know what all those $(name)_* vars in the startup scripts are for! :) Given that squid.conf contains 'cache_effective_user' and 'cache_effective_group' settings, the 'squid_user' variable in the script is probably redundant. And that seems to be confirmed by a comparison of 'ps aux | grep squid' results from launching squid directly and, now, via the script with the squid_user var removed: root 92882 0.0 0.3 3172 1764 ?? Is 2:51AM 0:00.00 /usr/local/sbin/squid -D squid 92884 0.0 1.3 7472 6668 ?? S 2:51AM 0:00.24 (squid) -D (squid) squid 92885 0.0 0.1 1188 548 ?? Is 2:51AM 0:00.01 (unlinkd) (unlinkd) root 93310 0.0 0.3 3172 1764 ?? Is 3:29AM 0:00.00 /usr/local/sbin/squid -D squid 93312 0.0 1.3 7472 6668 ?? S 3:29AM 0:00.19 (squid) -D (squid) squid 93313 0.0 0.1 1188 548 ?? Is 3:29AM 0:00.01 (unlinkd) (unlinkd) I suppose the remaining question is whether there exists a valid reason to keep the squid_user variable in the script, or is it purely redundant and, in this case, troublesome. (By the way, the reason for running squid on port 80 is to run it as an httpd_accelerator, and in my case specifically, to allow for the handling of virtual web-hosts on a single IP over multiple servers.) In any case I suppose I should pose this question to the port maintainer. Many thanks, Wayne From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jul 5 18:59:06 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E0FE316A41C for ; Tue, 5 Jul 2005 18:59:03 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from gbentley@uk2.net) Received: from webmailsmtp1.uk2net.com (mailout.uk2.net [83.170.69.139]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5176543E3F for ; Tue, 5 Jul 2005 18:55:01 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from gbentley@uk2.net) Received: from [10.0.1.52] (helo=mailnew-2.uk2.net) by webmailsmtp1.uk2net.com with smtp (Exim 4.43) id 1DpsZW-0000Dz-S2 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Tue, 05 Jul 2005 19:55:06 +0100 Received: from 81.174.174.115 (SquirrelMail authenticated user gbentley) by maxproxy2.uk2net.com with HTTP; Tue, 5 Jul 2005 19:55:05 +0100 (BST) Message-ID: <50885.81.174.174.115.1120589705.squirrel@maxproxy2.uk2net.com> Date: Tue, 5 Jul 2005 19:55:05 +0100 (BST) From: "Graham Bentley" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 Importance: Normal Subject: Re: Linux move to FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 05 Jul 2005 18:59:07 -0000 > This is the funniest discussion i have ever read. I saving these messages > for future entertainment. I love Tux and Beastie pictures Same here, I also like the look of the default blue colored lilo menu on some linux distros - its looks quite professional. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jul 5 19:02:13 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1280116A41C for ; Tue, 5 Jul 2005 19:02:10 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from matt@atopia.net) Received: from neptune.atopia.net (neptune.atopia.net [209.128.231.90]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EDFBF44118 for ; Tue, 5 Jul 2005 18:57:34 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from matt@atopia.net) Received: by neptune.atopia.net (Postfix, from userid 1001) id F02D36388; Tue, 5 Jul 2005 14:57:23 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by neptune.atopia.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id EE4DB637B for ; Tue, 5 Jul 2005 14:57:23 -0400 (EDT) Date: Tue, 5 Jul 2005 14:57:23 -0400 (EDT) From: Matt Juszczak To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20050705145350.W37501@neptune.atopia.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Subject: Remote access to a user's mail spool X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 05 Jul 2005 19:02:13 -0000 Hi all, We're an ISP, and we are currently looking for a way for our tech support guys to access customer's email without having shell access to the server, or knowing the customer's password. We'd like to install a custom webmail client on our private internal LAN webserver that would only show the user's inbox and the ability to delete the messages (couldn't read messages, etc.). The problem is that we would have to know the user's password in order for my PHP script to go out and fetch the mail. Is there a way I can setup and/or patch one of the POP3 clients (of course I would firewall this and do an SSH tunnel with the pop3d running on localhost only on the mail server, so I would keep things secure) so that it could be given any random password and would authenticate? Or is this some kind of patch I would need to write? Maybe a better option would be to write a custom client/server interface via ssh to interact with the mail spool (possibly calling "mail" over ssh remotely, with public/private key authentication and sudo access to mail for the remote account).... Any ideas? Thanks, Matt PS: I can admit that I originally posted this to the dovecot mailing list, but am now seeing it might be a system-related issue vs. a pop3 daemon issue. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jul 5 19:43:39 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0CD9316A41C for ; Tue, 5 Jul 2005 19:43:36 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from scuba@centroin.com.br) Received: from gorgo.centroin.com.br (gorgo.centroin.com.br [200.225.63.128]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C9EC544797 for ; Tue, 5 Jul 2005 19:07:30 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from scuba@centroin.com.br) Received: from hypselo.centroin.com.br (hypselo.centroin.com.br [200.225.63.1]) by gorgo.centroin.com.br (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id j65J76Dt016461; Tue, 5 Jul 2005 16:07:07 -0300 (EST) Date: Tue, 5 Jul 2005 16:07:06 -0300 (EST) From: Sender: To: Chuck Swiger In-Reply-To: <42CACE54.8090103@mac.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: QUOTED-PRINTABLE Cc: FreeBSD questions Subject: Re: Where is the memory X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 05 Jul 2005 19:43:39 -0000 On Tue, 5 Jul 2005, Chuck Swiger wrote: |scuba@centroin.com.br wrote: |[ ... ] |> =09My problem is that I think something in the system is allocating |> memory and not releasing it. | |The kernel will attempt to use all but a little RAM reserved as free space= to |cache stuff from disk, unless and until that memory is needed for somethin= g else. =09It seems that this is the case. I wrote a small program to allocate a large block of memory (more them that shown as free) and the system doesn=B4t swap. =09That is the memory top shows as "Inactive"? Thank you, - Marcelo Souza From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jul 5 19:46:30 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4F2F216A41C for ; Tue, 5 Jul 2005 19:46:27 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from pauls@utdallas.edu) Received: from smtp1.utdallas.edu (smtp1.utdallas.edu [129.110.10.12]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6E71743ECF for ; Tue, 5 Jul 2005 19:10:37 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from pauls@utdallas.edu) Received: from utd59514.utdallas.edu (utd59514.utdallas.edu [129.110.3.28]) by smtp1.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id CFAC6388F0C for ; Tue, 5 Jul 2005 14:10:23 -0500 (CDT) Date: Tue, 05 Jul 2005 14:10:23 -0500 From: Paul Schmehl To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: X-Mailer: Mulberry/3.1.6 (Linux/x86) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Subject: Dependency failures X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 05 Jul 2005 19:46:30 -0000 I have a question about portupgrade. I have been running portupgrade -ai on my workstation, and several upgrades failed. I traced all the failures to one of two things; a security problem or XML-Parser was missing. However, XML-Parser was installed. pkgdb -F returned with no complaints and pkg-info shows that XML-Parser was installed. I deinstalled and reinstalled the p5-XML-Parser port, and now all the ports that failed because of that port are upgrading properly (gnome-desktop, gnome-menus, metacity, ggv, gnome-themes, gedit, gdm, gal2, filerolller, eog, nautilus-cd-burner, evolution-data-server, evolution, gnome-panel) What is the cause of this? Is there an easier way to correct the problem? Re- register the port? (If so, how do you do that?) Paul Schmehl (pauls@utdallas.edu) Adjunct Information Security Officer University of Texas at Dallas AVIEN Founding Member http://www.utdallas.edu/ir/security/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jul 5 19:55:59 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4821516A429 for ; Tue, 5 Jul 2005 19:55:59 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jonc@chen.org.nz) Received: from chen.org.nz (chen.org.nz [210.54.19.51]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 92EB3445CC for ; Tue, 5 Jul 2005 19:35:59 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jonc@chen.org.nz) Received: by chen.org.nz (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 396C156425; Wed, 6 Jul 2005 07:35:58 +1200 (NZST) Date: Wed, 6 Jul 2005 07:35:58 +1200 From: Jonathan Chen To: Andreas Wider?e Andersen Message-ID: <20050705193558.GJ96826@osiris.chen.org.nz> References: <6.1.2.0.2.20050705171023.038c2ec0@malibu.wideroe.net> <20050705171944.7799f047.albi@scii.nl> <6.1.2.0.2.20050705174116.0be13a38@malibu.wideroe.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <6.1.2.0.2.20050705174116.0be13a38@malibu.wideroe.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Trouble mounting Zip drive X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 05 Jul 2005 19:55:59 -0000 On Tue, Jul 05, 2005 at 05:44:17PM +0200, Andreas Wider?e Andersen wrote: [...] > # mount /zip > mount: /dev/da0s4 on /zip: incorrect super block Your ZIP disk hasn't been formatted as UFS, I would try `msdos' instead. -- Jonathan Chen Once is dumb luck. Twice is coincidence. Three times and Somebody Is Trying To Tell You Something. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jul 5 19:56:58 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 84FA116A448 for ; Tue, 5 Jul 2005 19:56:58 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from freebsd-questions-local@be-well.ilk.org) Received: from mail24.sea5.speakeasy.net (mail24.sea5.speakeasy.net [69.17.117.26]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AB49C44119 for ; Tue, 5 Jul 2005 19:49:11 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from freebsd-questions-local@be-well.ilk.org) Received: (qmail 10048 invoked from network); 5 Jul 2005 19:49:11 -0000 Received: from dsl092-078-145.bos1.dsl.speakeasy.net (HELO be-well.ilk.org) ([66.92.78.145]) (envelope-sender ) by mail24.sea5.speakeasy.net (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for ; 5 Jul 2005 19:49:11 -0000 Received: by be-well.ilk.org (Postfix, from userid 1147) id 381A92E; Tue, 5 Jul 2005 15:49:10 -0400 (EDT) Sender: lowell@be-well.ilk.org To: References: From: Lowell Gilbert Date: 05 Jul 2005 15:49:10 -0400 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <44ekad3ufd.fsf@be-well.ilk.org> Lines: 24 User-Agent: Gnus/5.09 (Gnus v5.9.0) Emacs/21.3 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: FreeBSD questions Subject: Re: Where is the memory X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 05 Jul 2005 19:56:59 -0000 writes: > On Tue, 5 Jul 2005, Chuck Swiger wrote: >=20 > |scuba@centroin.com.br wrote: > |[ ... ] > |> My problem is that I think something in the system is allocating > |> memory and not releasing it. > | > |The kernel will attempt to use all but a little RAM reserved as free spa= ce to > |cache stuff from disk, unless and until that memory is needed for someth= ing else. >=20 > It seems that this is the case. I wrote a small program to > allocate a large block of memory (more them that shown as free) and the > system doesn=B4t swap. That isn't relevant. The memory won't even be mapped in until it is accessed.=20=20 > That is the memory top shows as "Inactive"? I don't understand the question. I suspect you are looking for the following bit of the FreeBSD documentation: http://www.br.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/faq/misc.html#TOP-FREEM= EM From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jul 5 19:59:19 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3C59116A43A for ; Tue, 5 Jul 2005 19:59:19 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from johnwlarson3rd@yahoo.com) Received: from web34206.mail.mud.yahoo.com (web34206.mail.mud.yahoo.com [66.163.178.121]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id DDEE0441FA for ; Tue, 5 Jul 2005 19:24:43 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from johnwlarson3rd@yahoo.com) Received: (qmail 29150 invoked by uid 60001); 5 Jul 2005 19:24:43 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=1MHSwcFkVAu06SYw4JBM4kG2iaIHWQDvJtfAiVQjV4vb01iuuGlaRRmemUuwrdHK6mDLLQEZz4WRMMinHIr2YYuHkFg4w6Wtldqtm0wiNWoaO6T5QMn7Ast+xyVmZelx+DNOpfYOUE6ugRlRAcDaufHh+0+2lhO0udEBICsbryo= ; Message-ID: <20050705192443.29148.qmail@web34206.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Received: from [198.189.128.60] by web34206.mail.mud.yahoo.com via HTTP; Tue, 05 Jul 2005 12:24:43 PDT Date: Tue, 5 Jul 2005 12:24:43 -0700 (PDT) From: John Larson To: freebsd Mailing MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Subject: upgrade perl 5.8.6 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 05 Jul 2005 19:59:19 -0000 When I upgrade to perl 5.8.6 from 5.00 I get DBI not found in @INC array. what is the best way to upgrade the perl dbi. I tried portupgrade p-5* still have same problem help please John Larson __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - Helps protect you from nasty viruses. http://promotions.yahoo.com/new_mail From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jul 5 20:01:18 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 32A4216A445 for ; Tue, 5 Jul 2005 20:01:13 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from kris@obsecurity.org) Received: from obsecurity.dyndns.org (CPE0050040655c8-CM00111ae02aac.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com [69.194.102.232]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 64D7243EE8 for ; Tue, 5 Jul 2005 19:53:41 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from kris@obsecurity.org) Received: by obsecurity.dyndns.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id AC107512EA; Tue, 5 Jul 2005 15:53:40 -0400 (EDT) Date: Tue, 5 Jul 2005 15:53:40 -0400 From: Kris Kennaway To: Paul Schmehl Message-ID: <20050705195340.GA46914@xor.obsecurity.org> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="AhhlLboLdkugWU4S" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Dependency failures X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 05 Jul 2005 20:01:20 -0000 --AhhlLboLdkugWU4S Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Tue, Jul 05, 2005 at 02:10:23PM -0500, Paul Schmehl wrote: > I have a question about portupgrade. I have been running portupgrade -ai= =20 > on my workstation, and several upgrades failed. I traced all the failure= s=20 > to one of two things; a security problem or XML-Parser was missing.=20 > However, XML-Parser was installed. pkgdb -F returned with no complaints= =20 > and pkg-info shows that XML-Parser was installed. >=20 > I deinstalled and reinstalled the p5-XML-Parser port, and now all the por= ts=20 > that failed because of that port are upgrading properly (gnome-desktop,= =20 > gnome-menus, metacity, ggv, gnome-themes, gedit, gdm, gal2, filerolller,= =20 > eog, nautilus-cd-burner, evolution-data-server, evolution, gnome-panel) >=20 > What is the cause of this? Is there an easier way to correct the problem= ?=20 > Re- register the port? (If so, how do you do that?) You probably updated perl incompletely. See /usr/ports/UPDATING. Kris --AhhlLboLdkugWU4S Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.1 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFCyuVEWry0BWjoQKURAkMEAJ9hUBIkDpp+d+JbxriAH2v6QM/EBACgq194 kSSvmcppsmD4KYZhBHCHS/4= =8h/F -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --AhhlLboLdkugWU4S-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jul 5 20:09:18 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 693F916A41C for ; Tue, 5 Jul 2005 20:09:18 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from freebsd-questions-local@be-well.ilk.org) Received: from mail22.sea5.speakeasy.net (mail22.sea5.speakeasy.net [69.17.117.24]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4834143D4C for ; Tue, 5 Jul 2005 20:09:18 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from freebsd-questions-local@be-well.ilk.org) Received: (qmail 22014 invoked from network); 5 Jul 2005 20:09:17 -0000 Received: from dsl092-078-145.bos1.dsl.speakeasy.net (HELO be-well.ilk.org) ([66.92.78.145]) (envelope-sender ) by mail22.sea5.speakeasy.net (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for ; 5 Jul 2005 20:09:17 -0000 Received: by be-well.ilk.org (Postfix, from userid 1147) id 0E45F2E; Tue, 5 Jul 2005 16:09:15 -0400 (EDT) Sender: lowell@be-well.ilk.org To: Sean Murphy References: <42CABBDF.7030801@calarts.edu> From: Lowell Gilbert Date: 05 Jul 2005 16:09:15 -0400 In-Reply-To: <42CABBDF.7030801@calarts.edu> Message-ID: <44acl13thw.fsf@be-well.ilk.org> Lines: 11 User-Agent: Gnus/5.09 (Gnus v5.9.0) Emacs/21.3 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Help passwd file convert X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 05 Jul 2005 20:09:18 -0000 Sean Murphy writes: > I am going to move over from Solaris 8 to FreeBSD 5.4 but would like > to keep uid, usernames, and passwords from the Solaris 8 box intact > when I move them to the FreeBSD box. Is it just as simple as a copy > and paste for the passwd file? Is there any commands I have to run > after the copy and paste? Anything need to be done to the > master.passwd file? It's not quite that simple, but it isn't very hard. See the passwd(5) manual. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jul 5 20:34:59 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 40CEB16A41C for ; Tue, 5 Jul 2005 20:34:59 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from roy2098@yahoo.com) Received: from web30210.mail.mud.yahoo.com (web30210.mail.mud.yahoo.com [68.142.200.93]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id D472343D45 for ; Tue, 5 Jul 2005 20:34:58 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from roy2098@yahoo.com) Received: (qmail 82732 invoked by uid 60001); 5 Jul 2005 20:34:58 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:Received:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=KAo1ZLsE2uXsjBkdgJL6lWJKkmfayALz4jJOM8jr8bHWuaQ0gSHXJzW13JwjAPkbR7AnDbwFhpgKkdYJPJmnyQbLHtc5HDJX2tH7USJsJJlfwVfoZ9sQ2R63C8Q857vVPv5qky2v0aKWJVtkAYfsqnoqWAnLlR+AO7KlCUvn5jk= ; Message-ID: <20050705203458.82730.qmail@web30210.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Received: from [216.19.237.19] by web30210.mail.mud.yahoo.com via HTTP; Tue, 05 Jul 2005 13:34:58 PDT Date: Tue, 5 Jul 2005 13:34:58 -0700 (PDT) From: RA Cohen To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Subject: Compaq Presario 6000 Install Failure FBSD 5.4 RELEASE X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: roy2098@yahoo.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 05 Jul 2005 20:34:59 -0000 Hello all, I'm darned if I know what is going on with this -- I've installed many version 4.X and 5.X systems on Proliant hardware but this is the first failure (and the first Proliant 6000) -- Presario 6000 dual processor Smart Raid 3100ES attached to 4 - 18 Gb 10,000 RPM UW SCSI drives. Configured as one RAID 0 array containing one physical = one logical drive and one RAID 5 array containing three physical = one logical drive. Compaq utilities report no problem with any of this, and the system is up to date with firmware. System set up for a SCO Unix 7.1 install. As I don't really know how to export the boot messages, I can tell you it fails at a line that appears maybe a dozen lines after the md0: Preload image line: GEOM: Configure idad0s3 start 16384 length 37584896 end 37601279 So apparently FBSD is having some problems either with the controller or possibly the drives themselves...? I've googled and searched the web to no avail. Older versions of FBSD did not have the ida code, but 5.4 surely does...your help, as always, is most appreciated. Thank you, Roy __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jul 5 20:35:18 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D6B0716A41C for ; Tue, 5 Jul 2005 20:35:18 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from r-militante@northwestern.edu) Received: from merle.it.northwestern.edu (merle.it.northwestern.edu [129.105.16.57]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 875CD43D45 for ; Tue, 5 Jul 2005 20:35:18 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from r-militante@northwestern.edu) Received: (from mailnull@localhost) by merle.it.northwestern.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) id j65KZH6O000397 for ; Tue, 5 Jul 2005 15:35:17 -0500 (CDT) Received: from merle.it.northwestern.edu (darkpossum.medill.northwestern.edu [129.105.246.24]) by merle.it.northwestern.edu via smap (V2.0) id xma029924; Tue, 5 Jul 05 15:35:03 -0500 Date: Tue, 5 Jul 2005 15:38:01 -0500 From: Redmond Militante To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20050705203800.GC15640@darkpossum> References: <20050705104029.GB2551@darkpossum> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="8X7/QrJGcKSMr1RN" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20050705104029.GB2551@darkpossum> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i X-Sender: redmond@darkpossum.medill.northwestern.edu X-URL: http://darkpossum.medill.northwestern.edu/gnupg.php X-PGP-Fingerprint: 2AA2 E78E A6FC 9144 3534 39A2 EE0F 8D26 5FDF 481D Subject: Re: error installing graphics/ImageMagick from ports X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Redmond Militante List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 05 Jul 2005 20:35:19 -0000 --8X7/QrJGcKSMr1RN Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable issue's been resolved. i did another cvsup of ports and portupgrade of jasper. built fine after t= hat. > hello- >=20 > i get an error installing graphics/ImageMagick >=20 > 4.11-RELEASE-p8 FreeBSD 4.11-RELEASE-p8 #0:=20 >=20 > i tried cvsup'ing my ports tree. same error. >=20 > error log is below, if anyone can suggest anything. i'd like to install = this port. >=20 > > .... > -I/usr/local/include/freetype2 -I/usr/local/include -I/usr/local/include = -I/usr/X11R6/include -I/X11 -I/usr/local/include/libxml2 -O -pipe -Wall -c= -o coders/magick_libMagick_la-jbig.lo `test -f 'coders/jbig.c' || echo './= '`coders/jbig.c > source=3D'coders/jpeg.c' object=3D'coders/magick_libMagick_la-jpeg.lo' li= btool=3Dyes \ > DEPDIR=3D.deps depmode=3Dgcc /bin/sh ./depcomp \ > /bin/sh /usr/local/bin/libtool15 --silent --tag=3DCC --mode=3Dcompile cc = -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -I. -I. -I./magick -I./ltdl -I./ltdl -I/usr/local/include= /freetype2 -I/usr/local/include -I/usr/local/include -I/usr/X11R6/include -= I/X11 -I/usr/local/include/libxml2 -O -pipe -Wall -c -o coders/magick_libM= agick_la-jpeg.lo `test -f 'coders/jpeg.c' || echo './'`coders/jpeg.c > coders/jpeg.c: In function `ReadJPEGImage': > coders/jpeg.c:654: warning: variable `image' might be clobbered by `longj= mp' or `vfork' > coders/jpeg.c:1102: warning: variable `image' might be clobbered by `long= jmp' or `vfork' > coders/jpeg.c:1122: warning: variable `image' might be clobbered by `long= jmp' or `vfork' > source=3D'coders/jp2.c' object=3D'coders/magick_libMagick_la-jp2.lo' libt= ool=3Dyes \ > DEPDIR=3D.deps depmode=3Dgcc /bin/sh ./depcomp \ > /bin/sh /usr/local/bin/libtool15 --silent --tag=3DCC --mode=3Dcompile cc = -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -I. -I. -I./magick -I./ltdl -I./ltdl -I/usr/local/include= /freetype2 -I/usr/local/include -I/usr/local/include -I/usr/X11R6/include -= I/X11 -I/usr/local/include/libxml2 -O -pipe -Wall -c -o coders/magick_libM= agick_la-jp2.lo `test -f 'coders/jp2.c' || echo './'`coders/jp2.c > In file included from /usr/local/include/jasper/jasper.h:121, > from coders/jp2.c:78: > /usr/local/include/jasper/jas_image.h:152: warning: `/*' within comment > coders/jp2.c: In function `ReadJP2Image': > coders/jp2.c:280: `jas_cmprof_t' undeclared (first use in this function) > coders/jp2.c:280: (Each undeclared identifier is reported only once > coders/jp2.c:280: for each function it appears in.) > coders/jp2.c:280: `cm_profile' undeclared (first use in this function) > coders/jp2.c:279: warning: statement with no effect > coders/jp2.c:283: `jas_iccprof_t' undeclared (first use in this function) > coders/jp2.c:283: `icc_profile' undeclared (first use in this function) > coders/jp2.c:282: warning: statement with no effect > coders/jp2.c:286: syntax error before `*' > coders/jp2.c:327: `status' undeclared (first use in this function) > coders/jp2.c:337: `jp2_stream' undeclared (first use in this function) > coders/jp2.c:340: `jp2_image' undeclared (first use in this function) > coders/jp2.c:346: warning: implicit declaration of function `jas_clrspc_f= am' > coders/jp2.c:346: warning: implicit declaration of function `jas_image_cl= rspc' > coders/jp2.c:348: `JAS_CLRSPC_FAM_RGB' undeclared (first use in this func= tion) > coders/jp2.c:350: `components' undeclared (first use in this function) > coders/jp2.c:359: `number_components' undeclared (first use in this funct= ion) > coders/jp2.c:368: `JAS_CLRSPC_FAM_GRAY' undeclared (first use in this fun= ction) > coders/jp2.c:380: `JAS_CLRSPC_FAM_YCBCR' undeclared (first use in this fu= nction) > coders/jp2.c:355: warning: unreachable code at beginning of switch statem= ent > coders/jp2.c:410: `i' undeclared (first use in this function) > coders/jp2.c:424: `x_step' undeclared (first use in this function) > coders/jp2.c:425: `y_step' undeclared (first use in this function) > coders/jp2.c:437: `maximum_component_depth' undeclared (first use in this= function) > coders/jp2.c:442: `pixels' undeclared (first use in this function) > coders/jp2.c:455: `scale' undeclared (first use in this function) > coders/jp2.c:468: `q' undeclared (first use in this function) > coders/jp2.c:490: `x' undeclared (first use in this function) > coders/jp2.c:488: warning: unreachable code at beginning of switch statem= ent > coders/jp2.c:558: warning: implicit declaration of function `jas_image_cm= prof' > coders/jp2.c:559: syntax error before `)' > coders/jp2.c:560: syntax error before `)' > coders/jp2.c:562: syntax error before `)' > coders/jp2.c:567: `icc_stream' undeclared (first use in this function) > coders/jp2.c:569: warning: implicit declaration of function `jas_iccprof_= save' > coders/jp2.c: At top level: > coders/jp2.c:597: syntax error before `void' > coders/jp2.c:598: warning: type defaults to `int' in declaration of `jas_= image_destroy' > coders/jp2.c:598: warning: parameter names (without types) in function de= claration > coders/jp2.c:598: conflicting types for `jas_image_destroy' > /usr/local/include/jasper/jas_image.h:348: previous declaration of `jas_i= mage_destroy' > coders/jp2.c:598: warning: data definition has no type or storage class > coders/jp2.c:599: syntax error before `for' > coders/jp2.c:86: warning: `WriteJP2Image' declared `static' but never def= ined > coders/jp2.c:117: warning: `IsJP2' defined but not used > coders/jp2.c:153: warning: `IsJPC' defined but not used > coders/jp2.c:272: warning: `ReadJP2Image' defined but not used > gmake[1]: *** [coders/magick_libMagick_la-jp2.lo] Error 1 > gmake[1]: Leaving directory `/usr/ports/graphics/ImageMagick/work/ImageMa= gick-6.2.2' > gmake: *** [all] Error 2 > *** Error code 2 >=20 > Stop in /usr/ports/graphics/ImageMagick. >=20 >=20 >=20 > --=20 > Redmond Militante > Software Engineer / Medill School of Journalism > FreeBSD 5.2.1-RELEASE-p14 #0: Fri Jun 10 16:46:59 CDT 2005 i386 > 5:30AM up 21 days, 18:08, 4 users, load averages: 0.00, 0.00, 0.00 --=20 Redmond Militante Software Engineer / Medill School of Journalism FreeBSD 5.2.1-RELEASE-p14 #0: Fri Jun 10 16:46:59 CDT 2005 i386 3:30PM up 22 days, 4:08, 5 users, load averages: 0.00, 0.00, 0.00 --8X7/QrJGcKSMr1RN Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.0 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFCyu+o7g+NJl/fSB0RAtQ/AJ9lrWVCJYgwVt528hDoqyIjhjeAPgCg0yp8 jt1oc7Y4uoLVf/zOL3e0hBk= =moNG -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --8X7/QrJGcKSMr1RN-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jul 5 20:44:04 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6725D16A41C for ; Tue, 5 Jul 2005 20:44:04 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from freebsd-questions-local@be-well.ilk.org) Received: from mail21.sea5.speakeasy.net (mail21.sea5.speakeasy.net [69.17.117.23]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3DABA43D5C for ; Tue, 5 Jul 2005 20:44:04 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from freebsd-questions-local@be-well.ilk.org) Received: (qmail 5222 invoked from network); 5 Jul 2005 20:44:03 -0000 Received: from dsl092-078-145.bos1.dsl.speakeasy.net (HELO be-well.ilk.org) ([66.92.78.145]) (envelope-sender ) by mail21.sea5.speakeasy.net (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for ; 5 Jul 2005 20:44:03 -0000 Received: by be-well.ilk.org (Postfix, from userid 1147) id 900DE2E; Tue, 5 Jul 2005 16:44:02 -0400 (EDT) Sender: lowell@be-well.ilk.org To: Nelis Lamprecht References: <7cbadc870507050726369edadd@mail.gmail.com> From: Lowell Gilbert Date: 05 Jul 2005 16:44:02 -0400 In-Reply-To: <7cbadc870507050726369edadd@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <44zmt12dbh.fsf@be-well.ilk.org> Lines: 10 User-Agent: Gnus/5.09 (Gnus v5.9.0) Emacs/21.3 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: Procedure for migrating user accounts to new system ? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 05 Jul 2005 20:44:04 -0000 Nelis Lamprecht writes: > What is the correct procedure to follow for migrating user accounts > from one FreeBSD 4.x system to a new FreeBSD 4.x system ? We're > sticking to 4.x due to legacy issues(Netware) in case I get asked. > Didn't see answer to this in the FAQ's or Handbook and google answers > seem sketchy. The FAQ entry titled "How do I move my system over to my huge new disk?" should be apropos. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jul 5 20:48:06 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7DBCB16A41C for ; Tue, 5 Jul 2005 20:48:06 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from Mike.Jeays@rogers.com) Received: from smtp103.rog.mail.re2.yahoo.com (smtp103.rog.mail.re2.yahoo.com [206.190.36.81]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 1B5A043D49 for ; Tue, 5 Jul 2005 20:48:05 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from Mike.Jeays@rogers.com) Received: (qmail 49306 invoked from network); 5 Jul 2005 20:48:05 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?192.168.2.150?) (mjeays2551@24.114.152.139 with plain) by smtp103.rog.mail.re2.yahoo.com with SMTP; 5 Jul 2005 20:48:05 -0000 From: Mike Jeays To: Jonathan Chen In-Reply-To: <20050705193558.GJ96826@osiris.chen.org.nz> References: <6.1.2.0.2.20050705171023.038c2ec0@malibu.wideroe.net> <20050705171944.7799f047.albi@scii.nl> <6.1.2.0.2.20050705174116.0be13a38@malibu.wideroe.net> <20050705193558.GJ96826@osiris.chen.org.nz> Content-Type: text/plain Message-Id: <1120596484.4588.15.camel@chaucer> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Ximian Evolution 1.4.6 Date: Tue, 05 Jul 2005 16:48:04 -0400 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Andreas Wider?e Andersen , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Trouble mounting Zip drive X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 05 Jul 2005 20:48:06 -0000 On Tue, 2005-07-05 at 15:35, Jonathan Chen wrote: > On Tue, Jul 05, 2005 at 05:44:17PM +0200, Andreas Wider?e Andersen wrote: > > [...] > > # mount /zip > > mount: /dev/da0s4 on /zip: incorrect super block > > Your ZIP disk hasn't been formatted as UFS, I would try `msdos' > instead. Try "mount -t msdos /dev/da0s4 /zip" on the command line If that doesn't work, try da0s1 instead. fstab should say: From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jul 5 21:23:15 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3D7A116A41C for ; Tue, 5 Jul 2005 21:23:15 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jbrose11@yahoo.com) Received: from web52305.mail.yahoo.com (web52305.mail.yahoo.com [206.190.39.100]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id C38BC43D48 for ; Tue, 5 Jul 2005 21:23:14 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jbrose11@yahoo.com) Received: (qmail 54861 invoked by uid 60001); 5 Jul 2005 21:23:14 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=rhEAnJ60QHM3WwmyK8RHuPfOd7VXRzt0c+vuMghnkce4mFbPEypFxFUsRgA6ydtVnyQZZ27P8u70ctTf3IL1QQCpdN8gtdEReNR5g992wvtJJU2FXqesYtSLpahqKBpFXYI2u6KO6tkt8dfrLBdCr9Ix3KfN7RZO3ciwieHoIwo= ; Message-ID: <20050705212313.54859.qmail@web52305.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [160.36.160.45] by web52305.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Tue, 05 Jul 2005 14:23:13 PDT Date: Tue, 5 Jul 2005 14:23:13 -0700 (PDT) From: John Rose To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Subject: PHP support for --with-oci8-instant-client X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 05 Jul 2005 21:23:15 -0000 Having similar problem on Solaris 9 SPARC checking for Oracle (OCI8) support using ORACLE_HOME installation... no checking for Oracle (OCI8) support using Oracle Instant Client... yes checking Oracle Instant Client directory... /usr/local/instantclient/instantclient10_1 checking Oracle Instant Client SDK header directory... /usr/local/instantclient/instantclient10_1/sdk/include checking Oracle Instant Client version... configure: error: Link from /usr/local/instantclient/instantclient10_1/libclntsh.so to libclntsh.so.10.1 not found # I added a softlink from libclntsh.so to libclntsh.so.10.1 by ln -s method. 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Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jul 5 21:26:27 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E10EE16A41C for ; Tue, 5 Jul 2005 21:26:27 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from hornetmadness@gmail.com) Received: from rproxy.gmail.com (rproxy.gmail.com [64.233.170.198]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 80A0943D48 for ; Tue, 5 Jul 2005 21:26:27 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from hornetmadness@gmail.com) Received: by rproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 34so200271rns for ; Tue, 05 Jul 2005 14:26:27 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=WZZm7TNV6egVjbg9J+CkLpnJZwGWyp7SdnJqTMTO17Ml/QqGjVyh7+EBTIRjbDBHlwBF+v8qZadmc2TInScJGtb3OsBajJV7uXfbWlupHtbZC2bw6Nb+B/ogrExAoZGY6f/IyGhNBHxCMx3kTM+XS/by8iZgDbA0RLvNXQ90Qk8= Received: by 10.38.195.4 with SMTP id s4mr2942979rnf; Tue, 05 Jul 2005 14:26:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.38.8.44 with HTTP; Tue, 5 Jul 2005 14:26:27 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Tue, 5 Jul 2005 17:26:27 -0400 From: Hornet To: Matt Juszczak In-Reply-To: <20050705145350.W37501@neptune.atopia.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline References: <20050705145350.W37501@neptune.atopia.net> Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Remote access to a user's mail spool X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Hornet List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 05 Jul 2005 21:26:28 -0000 I would have to say that, for what you are trying to do, you are going the long way about it. If I was to be stuck having to this, I would make a php/perl script with web GUI that just pares out the users subjects and adds a check box and delete button. Security can be implemented in so many ways with Apache that I would recommend that you read the Apache manual. I would go so far as setting an IP alias on the interface and limiting the networks that can access the script. Or just lock the shell access correctly. Erik On 7/5/05, Matt Juszczak wrote: > Hi all, >=20 > We're an ISP, and we are currently looking for a way for our tech support > guys to access customer's email without having shell access to the server= , > or knowing the customer's password. >=20 > We'd like to install a custom webmail client on our private internal LAN > webserver that would only show the user's inbox and the ability to delete > the messages (couldn't read messages, etc.). The problem is that we woul= d > have to know the user's password in order for my PHP script to go out and > fetch the mail. >=20 > Is there a way I can setup and/or patch one of the POP3 clients (of cours= e > I would firewall this and do an SSH tunnel with the pop3d running on > localhost only on the mail server, so I would keep things secure) so that > it could be given any random password and would authenticate? >=20 > Or is this some kind of patch I would need to write? Maybe a better > option would be to write a custom client/server interface via ssh to > interact with the mail spool (possibly calling "mail" over ssh remotely, > with public/private key authentication and sudo access to mail for the > remote account).... >=20 > Any ideas? >=20 > Thanks, >=20 > Matt >=20 > PS: I can admit that I originally posted this to the dovecot mailing list= , > but am now seeing it might be a system-related issue vs. a pop3 daemon > issue. > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.o= rg" > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jul 5 21:39:44 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 319A216A41C for ; Tue, 5 Jul 2005 21:39:44 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from kstewart@owt.com) Received: from smtp.owt.com (smtp.owt.com [204.118.6.19]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E24C543D48 for ; Tue, 5 Jul 2005 21:39:43 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from kstewart@owt.com) Received: from topaz-out (owt-207-41-94-233.owt.com [207.41.94.233]) by smtp.owt.com (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id j65LdO8u000452; Tue, 5 Jul 2005 14:39:24 -0700 From: Kent Stewart To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Tue, 5 Jul 2005 14:39:42 -0700 User-Agent: KMail/1.8.1 References: <20050705192443.29148.qmail@web34206.mail.mud.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <20050705192443.29148.qmail@web34206.mail.mud.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200507051439.42264.kstewart@owt.com> Cc: John Larson Subject: Re: upgrade perl 5.8.6 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 05 Jul 2005 21:39:44 -0000 On Tuesday 05 July 2005 12:24 pm, John Larson wrote: > When I upgrade to perl 5.8.6 from 5.00 I get DBI not > found in @INC array. what is the best way to upgrade > the perl dbi. I tried portupgrade p-5* still have same > problem help please you have to upgrade all of the p5-\* ports. Kent -- Kent Stewart Richland, WA http://users.owt.com/kstewart/index.html From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jul 5 22:09:14 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 973AC16A41C for ; Tue, 5 Jul 2005 22:09:14 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from do.you.got.root@gmail.com) Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.195]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4ADF343D46 for ; Tue, 5 Jul 2005 22:09:13 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from do.you.got.root@gmail.com) Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 36so1003211wra for ; Tue, 05 Jul 2005 15:09:13 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=jX8jL2ctJv5EHH6f8b9kCRrVdAzLGMSaLMHoWSLCxQzs3EYUrA2tNJL243h6D1ygSOe2xHmTUn2ZOnAHV0xzzk1D/il13fPSXX3lw+2iuIXMVhOUGcj2vVt07AGj3JpXqEpfSVvRNFDdql5IJ85aV8bg+NDi3uA/EDVJOTR0nBM= Received: by 10.54.8.51 with SMTP id 51mr2857876wrh; Tue, 05 Jul 2005 15:09:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.78.3 with HTTP; Tue, 5 Jul 2005 15:09:13 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Tue, 5 Jul 2005 18:09:13 -0400 From: Todd Suits To: "albi@scii.nl" In-Reply-To: <20050705202435.628d4783.albi@scii.nl> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline References: <200507051119.12128.algould@datawok.com> <20050705202435.628d4783.albi@scii.nl> Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Apache 2 SSL Error X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Todd Suits List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 05 Jul 2005 22:09:14 -0000 I have no problem accessing other https sites and there is not a router, the jail is set up on a dedicated server in a data center where serives like this are provided. On 7/5/05, albi@scii.nl wrote: > On Tue, 5 Jul 2005 14:21:03 -0400 > Todd Suits wrote: >=20 > > https:// is what im trying to use. http:// just brings my normal > > index.html page. > ---cut--- > > > > I get the following error in httpd-error.log: > > > > > > > > [Tue Jul 05 10:15:28 2005] [error] [client 24.123.123.123] Invalid > > > > method in request \x80g\x01\x03 >=20 > are you using a hardware-router or something ? > if so, did you open the 443 port on that router and set up > portforwarding to port 443 ? >=20 > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jul 5 22:18:56 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DC05416A41C for ; Tue, 5 Jul 2005 22:18:56 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from info@cherryfun.com) Received: from mail.cablenet.lt (mail.cablenet.lt [217.147.34.8]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7D73143D48 for ; Tue, 5 Jul 2005 22:18:56 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from info@cherryfun.com) Received: from ctv-213-164-96-249.vinita.lt ([213.164.96.249] helo=z3ro-7x7z8hprh7) by mail.cablenet.lt with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1DpvdR-00076Y-Iw for freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org; Wed, 06 Jul 2005 01:11:22 +0300 From: "CherryFun" To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Date: Wed, 6 Jul 2005 01:19:38 +0300 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Message-ID: <42CB31AA.14619.3118A82@localhost> Priority: normal X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v3.12c) X-SA-Exim-Connect-IP: 213.164.96.249 X-SA-Exim-Mail-From: info@cherryfun.com X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.0.3 (2005-04-27) on mail.vinita.lt X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.6 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=3.0.3 X-SA-Exim-Version: 4.2 (built Thu, 03 Mar 2005 10:44:12 +0100) X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes (on mail.cablenet.lt) Cc: Subject: New site link X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 05 Jul 2005 22:18:57 -0000 Hello my name is Jevgenij Dalnikov. 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We would like to tell you that new dating site has been launched, which has been made in Lithuania - www.cherryfun.com It would be big pleasure if you put a link on this site on your http://www.freebsd.org/fr/gallery/npgallery.html page Thank you in advance. ---------------- Sincerely yours, CherryFun.com team www.cherryfun.com From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jul 5 22:33:29 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BD8C616A41C for ; Tue, 5 Jul 2005 22:33:29 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from snailboy1@yahoo.com) Received: from web53902.mail.yahoo.com (web53902.mail.yahoo.com [206.190.36.212]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 58B3043D4C for ; Tue, 5 Jul 2005 22:33:29 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from snailboy1@yahoo.com) Received: (qmail 1897 invoked by uid 60001); 5 Jul 2005 22:33:28 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=g9mpJ17QYLGi3wnaKwcC4T6pyBCwxHVeWykUAunq1QjIZoC+AGgpeYJJUffH/L5ucMhJB6/tdvmXiNIaT6gpUGiJgOGEB4JVZUa9UULajQBrWAGm1GBqc+4JdGUxh56e0wvCdhU1Kfmbikz6XVOln3gOegqOhOZHeFN3jyOStoE= ; Message-ID: <20050705223328.1895.qmail@web53902.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [72.16.58.178] by web53902.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Tue, 05 Jul 2005 15:33:28 PDT Date: Tue, 5 Jul 2005 15:33:28 -0700 (PDT) From: David LeCount To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Subject: Re: How to clear tun0 interface? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 05 Jul 2005 22:33:29 -0000 --- wizlayer wrote: > On Monday 04 July 2005 11:07 pm, you wrote: > > --- wizlayer wrote: > > > What errors? > > > > -su-2.05b# ifconfig tun0 destroy > > ifconfig: SIOCIFDESTROY: Invalid argument > > -su-2.05b# ifconfig tun0 deletetunnel > > ifconfig: SIOCDIFPHYADDR: Invalid argument > > > > And what version of FreeBSD are you running on? I > seem to > remember this comming up before (maybe it was on > another list), > but I believe this was supposed to have been fixed > with 5.3 > > WizLayer I have upgraded from 5.4 Release to the stable branch and it still gives the same errors. I figured there was a change in how this was supposed to be accomplished, but if it is a bug, it has been there for a long time, at least a year. I didn't think it was because ppp is able to reset tun0, but maybe it's specific to the ifconfig command. I'm not sure. I'm just tired of my IPv6 not working correctly and I looked at the source code and it's too complex for my skills. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jul 5 22:40:02 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8BF2B16A41C for ; Tue, 5 Jul 2005 22:40:02 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from do.you.got.root@gmail.com) Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.206]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3DEBE43D55 for ; Tue, 5 Jul 2005 22:40:02 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from do.you.got.root@gmail.com) Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 36so1008152wra for ; Tue, 05 Jul 2005 15:40:01 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=XFe86DIO8kvvUSjCh4iEwpLNq3q5KO07ZM2MDkiID/NEENufqGo9bv+Qy5upV/4jQhJRgcZ8ov01RHBQuk9sinDU6g0QluerxqUDFg0uAhdfGu3SYpdy4FD3K5AFTY7vW1z+X4fKDXw+XJghfNsEZZ9vyECuhlFKwBFpHzI78eI= Received: by 10.54.45.1 with SMTP id s1mr2979928wrs; Tue, 05 Jul 2005 15:33:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.78.3 with HTTP; Tue, 5 Jul 2005 15:33:47 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Tue, 5 Jul 2005 18:33:47 -0400 From: Todd Suits To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline References: <200507051119.12128.algould@datawok.com> <20050705202435.628d4783.albi@scii.nl> Subject: Re: Apache 2 SSL Error X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Todd Suits List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 05 Jul 2005 22:40:02 -0000 As an update the command: $ openssl s_client -connect localhost:443 -state -debug from the Apache documents, produces the following output: killians# openssl s_client -connect localhost:443 -state -debug CONNECTED(00000003) SSL_connect:before/connect initialization write to 0809A500 [080B1000] (142 bytes =3D> 142 (0x8E)) 0000 - 80 8c 01 03 01 00 63 00-00 00 20 00 00 39 00 00 ......c... ..9.. 0010 - 38 00 00 35 00 00 16 00-00 13 00 00 0a 07 00 c0 8..5............ 0020 - 00 00 33 00 00 32 00 00-2f 03 00 80 00 00 66 00 ..3..2../.....f. 0030 - 00 05 00 00 04 01 00 80-08 00 80 00 00 63 00 00 .............c.. 0040 - 62 00 00 61 00 00 15 00-00 12 00 00 09 06 00 40 b..a...........@ 0050 - 00 00 65 00 00 64 00 00-60 00 00 14 00 00 11 00 ..e..d..`....... 0060 - 00 08 00 00 06 04 00 80-00 00 03 02 00 80 b3 46 ...............F 0070 - 18 14 e5 bd de 65 4e 39-1c 60 c4 c2 81 f5 bb 8a .....eN9.`...... 0080 - 68 00 e0 db 23 c8 ad c2-44 23 81 83 51 93 h...#...D#..Q. SSL_connect:SSLv2/v3 write client hello A read from 0809A500 [080B7000] (7 bytes =3D> 7 (0x7)) 0000 - 3c 21 44 4f 43 54 59 wrote: > I have no problem accessing other https sites and there is not a > router, the jail is set up on a dedicated server in a data center > where serives like this are provided. >=20 > On 7/5/05, albi@scii.nl wrote: > > On Tue, 5 Jul 2005 14:21:03 -0400 > > Todd Suits wrote: > > > > > https:// is what im trying to use. http:// just brings my normal > > > index.html page. > > ---cut--- > > > > > I get the following error in httpd-error.log: > > > > > > > > > > [Tue Jul 05 10:15:28 2005] [error] [client 24.123.123.123] Invali= d > > > > > method in request \x80g\x01\x03 > > > > are you using a hardware-router or something ? > > if so, did you open the 443 port on that router and set up > > portforwarding to port 443 ? > > > > > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jul 5 22:48:15 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9691616A41C for ; Tue, 5 Jul 2005 22:48:15 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from cswiger@mac.com) Received: from pi.codefab.com (pi.codefab.com [199.103.21.227]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 31CEE43D49 for ; Tue, 5 Jul 2005 22:48:15 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from cswiger@mac.com) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pi.codefab.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A1C0D5F75; Tue, 5 Jul 2005 18:48:13 -0400 (EDT) Received: from pi.codefab.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (pi.codefab.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 07741-05; Tue, 5 Jul 2005 18:48:03 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [192.168.1.3] (pool-68-161-54-113.ny325.east.verizon.net [68.161.54.113]) by pi.codefab.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D2FA35E8D; Tue, 5 Jul 2005 18:48:02 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <42CB0E22.4010504@mac.com> Date: Tue, 05 Jul 2005 18:48:02 -0400 From: Chuck Swiger Organization: The Courts of Chaos User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.8) Gecko/20050511 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Matt Juszczak References: <20050705145350.W37501@neptune.atopia.net> In-Reply-To: <20050705145350.W37501@neptune.atopia.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at codefab.com Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Remote access to a user's mail spool X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 05 Jul 2005 22:48:15 -0000 Matt Juszczak wrote: > We're an ISP, and we are currently looking for a way for our tech > support guys to access customer's email without having shell access to > the server, or knowing the customer's password. > > We'd like to install a custom webmail client on our private internal LAN > webserver that would only show the user's inbox and the ability to > delete the messages (couldn't read messages, etc.). The notion of being able to delete messages yet not see them doesn't make much sense, frankly. Are they going to just see the sender, or the subject, or do they just delete mail randomly? What problem are you trying to solve? -- -Chuck From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jul 5 22:50:10 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CBCA516A41C for ; Tue, 5 Jul 2005 22:50:10 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from cswiger@mac.com) Received: from pi.codefab.com (pi.codefab.com [199.103.21.227]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 74CA543D49 for ; Tue, 5 Jul 2005 22:50:10 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from cswiger@mac.com) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pi.codefab.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8BC0F5E46; Tue, 5 Jul 2005 18:50:09 -0400 (EDT) Received: from pi.codefab.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (pi.codefab.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 07741-06; Tue, 5 Jul 2005 18:49:58 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [192.168.1.3] (pool-68-161-54-113.ny325.east.verizon.net [68.161.54.113]) by pi.codefab.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 257CC5CF0; Tue, 5 Jul 2005 18:49:57 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <42CB0E95.5030808@mac.com> Date: Tue, 05 Jul 2005 18:49:57 -0400 From: Chuck Swiger Organization: The Courts of Chaos User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.8) Gecko/20050511 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: scuba@centroin.com.br References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at codefab.com Cc: FreeBSD questions Subject: Re: Where is the memory X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 05 Jul 2005 22:50:10 -0000 scuba@centroin.com.br wrote: > On Tue, 5 Jul 2005, Chuck Swiger wrote: [ ... ] > It seems that this is the case. I wrote a small program to > allocate a large block of memory (more them that shown as free) and the > system doesn´t swap. Nor should it. Simply allocating memory doesn't actually use it, you'd have to write something to each page... > That is the memory top shows as "Inactive"? Hmm. It's not clear what memory you're talking about here, although the FAQ provides an explanation that might clarify matters. -- -Chuck From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jul 5 23:00:19 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1A1C416A41C for ; Tue, 5 Jul 2005 23:00:19 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from do.you.got.root@gmail.com) Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.204]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C01F943D45 for ; Tue, 5 Jul 2005 23:00:18 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from do.you.got.root@gmail.com) Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 36so1011396wra for ; Tue, 05 Jul 2005 16:00:18 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=oymLK6BTFqtnbfIOQ0PXGL69EW4TJiItkAC/kUCMZO2NnHHg2bqkZ1vIHR6iSrjnGqQ79HMks+vz0hXMU82K30pi3zUwbZGK2sfW4iPxb7XIsN4YvDWGKX5V9JkearJWcy2WYoTpCwc7qsWyavLf+s/xz/BzCqKx2twBce7tfcM= Received: by 10.54.8.51 with SMTP id 51mr2887256wrh; Tue, 05 Jul 2005 16:00:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.78.3 with HTTP; Tue, 5 Jul 2005 16:00:17 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Tue, 5 Jul 2005 19:00:17 -0400 From: Todd Suits To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline References: <200507051119.12128.algould@datawok.com> <20050705202435.628d4783.albi@scii.nl> Subject: Re: Apache 2 SSL Error X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Todd Suits List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 05 Jul 2005 23:00:19 -0000 Sorry for all the responses but Googling has brought up possible problems or questions. I am starting Apache with /usr/local/sbin/apachectl startssl is this correct for the FreeBSD compiled version? On 7/5/05, Todd Suits wrote: > As an update the command: $ openssl s_client -connect localhost:443 > -state -debug from the Apache documents, produces the following > output: >=20 > killians# openssl s_client -connect localhost:443 -state -debug > CONNECTED(00000003) > SSL_connect:before/connect initialization > write to 0809A500 [080B1000] (142 bytes =3D> 142 (0x8E)) > 0000 - 80 8c 01 03 01 00 63 00-00 00 20 00 00 39 00 00 ......c... ..9.. > 0010 - 38 00 00 35 00 00 16 00-00 13 00 00 0a 07 00 c0 8..5............ > 0020 - 00 00 33 00 00 32 00 00-2f 03 00 80 00 00 66 00 ..3..2../.....f. > 0030 - 00 05 00 00 04 01 00 80-08 00 80 00 00 63 00 00 .............c.. > 0040 - 62 00 00 61 00 00 15 00-00 12 00 00 09 06 00 40 b..a...........@ > 0050 - 00 00 65 00 00 64 00 00-60 00 00 14 00 00 11 00 ..e..d..`....... > 0060 - 00 08 00 00 06 04 00 80-00 00 03 02 00 80 b3 46 ...............F > 0070 - 18 14 e5 bd de 65 4e 39-1c 60 c4 c2 81 f5 bb 8a .....eN9.`...... > 0080 - 68 00 e0 db 23 c8 ad c2-44 23 81 83 51 93 h...#...D#..Q. > SSL_connect:SSLv2/v3 write client hello A > read from 0809A500 [080B7000] (7 bytes =3D> 7 (0x7)) > 0000 - 3c 21 44 4f 43 54 59 SSL_connect:error in SSLv2/v3 read server hello A > 50689:error:140770FC:SSL routines:SSL23_GET_SERVER_HELLO:unknown > protocol:/usr/s > rc/secure/lib/libssl/../../../crypto/openssl/ssl/s23_clnt.c:475: >=20 > I'm just not sure how to deal with it. >=20 >=20 > On 7/5/05, Todd Suits wrote: > > I have no problem accessing other https sites and there is not a > > router, the jail is set up on a dedicated server in a data center > > where serives like this are provided. > > > > On 7/5/05, albi@scii.nl wrote: > > > On Tue, 5 Jul 2005 14:21:03 -0400 > > > Todd Suits wrote: > > > > > > > https:// is what im trying to use. http:// just brings my normal > > > > index.html page. > > > ---cut--- > > > > > > I get the following error in httpd-error.log: > > > > > > > > > > > > [Tue Jul 05 10:15:28 2005] [error] [client 24.123.123.123] Inva= lid > > > > > > method in request \x80g\x01\x03 > > > > > > are you using a hardware-router or something ? > > > if so, did you open the 443 port on that router and set up > > > portforwarding to port 443 ? > > > > > > > > > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jul 5 23:06:24 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A870B16A41C for ; Tue, 5 Jul 2005 23:06:24 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from FreeBSD@amadeus.demon.nl) Received: from post-24.mail.nl.demon.net (post-24.mail.nl.demon.net [194.159.73.194]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6A0D643D4C for ; Tue, 5 Jul 2005 23:06:24 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from FreeBSD@amadeus.demon.nl) Received: from amadeus.demon.nl ([82.161.18.200]:50295 helo=[10.0.1.1]) by post-24.mail.nl.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1DpwUh-000N5c-3a; Tue, 05 Jul 2005 23:06:23 +0000 In-Reply-To: <42CB31AA.14619.3118A82@localhost> References: <42CB31AA.14619.3118A82@localhost> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v730) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: <20C95696-07C2-4391-BFC9-081A5B4764B6@amadeus.demon.nl> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: FreeBSD questions mailing list Date: Wed, 6 Jul 2005 01:06:21 +0200 To: CherryFun X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.730) Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: New site link X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 05 Jul 2005 23:06:24 -0000 On 06 jul 2005, at 00:19, CherryFun wrote: > Hello my name is Jevgenij Dalnikov. I've found that your website > has links on lithuanian sites. > We would like to tell you that new dating site has been launched, > which has been made in Lithuania - www.cherryfun.com > > It would be big pleasure if you put a link on this site on your > http://www.freebsd.org/fr/gallery/npgallery.html page > > Thank you in advance. > http://uptime.netcraft.com/up/graph?site=http%3A%2F% 2Fwww.cherryfun.com%2F i don;t think so... Arno From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jul 5 23:14:49 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7D14D16A41C for ; Tue, 5 Jul 2005 23:14:49 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from somniosus@gmail.com) Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.202]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3549243D48 for ; Tue, 5 Jul 2005 23:14:49 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from somniosus@gmail.com) Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id i4so1037209wra for ; Tue, 05 Jul 2005 16:14:48 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=Qzi52Z4jsisowh0S3hSBUaMtVJhDEzUpRkplHiU3nz+HHbrIlW4EOMIwLvLpSvWSlYzexfeFa2WkvaG20l/5lKEgtuObnfmH/MdMJN/AahrkdgNE4M4NHvuAmsQ80l0Lv1ByCI6nhtF2YJM0lIVd9dNjDjVJol5oa2yZ3VV1SZY= Received: by 10.54.2.54 with SMTP id 54mr4782810wrb; Tue, 05 Jul 2005 16:14:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.149.7 with HTTP; Tue, 5 Jul 2005 16:14:48 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Tue, 5 Jul 2005 16:14:48 -0700 From: cape canaveral To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <42CB0E22.4010504@mac.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline References: <20050705145350.W37501@neptune.atopia.net> <42CB0E22.4010504@mac.com> Subject: Re: Remote access to a user's mail spool X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: cape canaveral List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 05 Jul 2005 23:14:49 -0000 On 7/5/05, Chuck Swiger wrote: > Matt Juszczak wrote: > > We're an ISP, and we are currently looking for a way for our tech > > support guys to access customer's email without having shell access to > > the server, or knowing the customer's password. > > > > We'd like to install a custom webmail client on our private internal LA= N > > webserver that would only show the user's inbox and the ability to > > delete the messages (couldn't read messages, etc.). >=20 > The notion of being able to delete messages yet not see them doesn't make= much > sense, frankly. Are they going to just see the sender, or the subject, o= r do > they just delete mail randomly? What problem are you trying to solve? >=20 > -- > -Chuck Most likely the problem they are trying to solve is that of Outlook and Outlook Express choking on corrupt/damaged/unrecognized headers.=20 It's a huge problem for Outlook users these days. http://www.google.com/search?q=3Doutlook+%2Bok+octets+follow&btnG=3DSearch Aaron From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jul 5 23:36:10 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DC1B416A41C for ; Tue, 5 Jul 2005 23:36:09 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jdyke@azimapower.com) Received: from extgw01.msys.intellispace.net (extgw01.msys.intellispace.net [160.79.150.226]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8E4BB43D4C for ; Tue, 5 Jul 2005 23:36:09 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jdyke@azimapower.com) Received: from malone.intellispace.net (malone.intellispace.net [160.79.145.141]) by extgw01.msys.intellispace.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E8B7AC4DB8; Tue, 5 Jul 2005 19:35:53 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [192.168.2.45] (66.9.108.98) by malone.intellispace.net (5.1.053) id 42C690CE00134832; Tue, 5 Jul 2005 19:34:41 -0400 Message-ID: <42CB1958.10204@azimapower.com> Date: Tue, 05 Jul 2005 23:35:52 +0000 From: jdyke Organization: Azima Inc. User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (Windows/20041206) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Todd Suits References: <200507051119.12128.algould@datawok.com> <20050705202435.628d4783.albi@scii.nl> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Apache 2 SSL Error X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: jdyke@azimapower.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 05 Jul 2005 23:36:10 -0000 Todd Suits wrote: > Sorry for all the responses but Googling has brought up possible > problems or questions. I am starting Apache with > /usr/local/sbin/apachectl startssl is this correct for the FreeBSD > compiled version? > you don't *have to* use that, you can just use /usr/local/etc/rc.d/apache.sh and make sure that apache2ssl_enable="YES" in /etc/rc.conf to my knowledge, which may be lacking, you should be able to execute apaches start script as well. if you run `ps -waux | grep httpd` from the prompt do you see httpd listed with -DSSL ?? the errors about 'invalid method' lead me to believe that you its only started as http not https. what is in the error log as soon as you run /usr/local/sbin/apachectl startssl and what does the above ps show. jeff > On 7/5/05, Todd Suits wrote: > >>As an update the command: $ openssl s_client -connect localhost:443 >>-state -debug from the Apache documents, produces the following >>output: >> >>killians# openssl s_client -connect localhost:443 -state -debug >>CONNECTED(00000003) >>SSL_connect:before/connect initialization >>write to 0809A500 [080B1000] (142 bytes => 142 (0x8E)) >>0000 - 80 8c 01 03 01 00 63 00-00 00 20 00 00 39 00 00 ......c... ..9.. >>0010 - 38 00 00 35 00 00 16 00-00 13 00 00 0a 07 00 c0 8..5............ >>0020 - 00 00 33 00 00 32 00 00-2f 03 00 80 00 00 66 00 ..3..2../.....f. >>0030 - 00 05 00 00 04 01 00 80-08 00 80 00 00 63 00 00 .............c.. >>0040 - 62 00 00 61 00 00 15 00-00 12 00 00 09 06 00 40 b..a...........@ >>0050 - 00 00 65 00 00 64 00 00-60 00 00 14 00 00 11 00 ..e..d..`....... >>0060 - 00 08 00 00 06 04 00 80-00 00 03 02 00 80 b3 46 ...............F >>0070 - 18 14 e5 bd de 65 4e 39-1c 60 c4 c2 81 f5 bb 8a .....eN9.`...... >>0080 - 68 00 e0 db 23 c8 ad c2-44 23 81 83 51 93 h...#...D#..Q. >>SSL_connect:SSLv2/v3 write client hello A >>read from 0809A500 [080B7000] (7 bytes => 7 (0x7)) >>0000 - 3c 21 44 4f 43 54 59 >SSL_connect:error in SSLv2/v3 read server hello A >>50689:error:140770FC:SSL routines:SSL23_GET_SERVER_HELLO:unknown >>protocol:/usr/s >>rc/secure/lib/libssl/../../../crypto/openssl/ssl/s23_clnt.c:475: >> >>I'm just not sure how to deal with it. >> >> >>On 7/5/05, Todd Suits wrote: >> >>>I have no problem accessing other https sites and there is not a >>>router, the jail is set up on a dedicated server in a data center >>>where serives like this are provided. >>> >>>On 7/5/05, albi@scii.nl wrote: >>> >>>>On Tue, 5 Jul 2005 14:21:03 -0400 >>>>Todd Suits wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>>>https:// is what im trying to use. http:// just brings my normal >>>>>index.html page. >>>> >>>>---cut--- >>>> >>>>>>> I get the following error in httpd-error.log: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>[Tue Jul 05 10:15:28 2005] [error] [client 24.123.123.123] Invalid >>>>>>>method in request \x80g\x01\x03 >>>> >>>>are you using a hardware-router or something ? >>>>if so, did you open the 443 port on that router and set up >>>>portforwarding to port 443 ? >>>> >>>> >>> > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jul 6 00:08:06 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F2CA316A41C for ; Wed, 6 Jul 2005 00:08:05 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) Received: from mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com (mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [65.75.192.90]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ADD6043D45 for ; Wed, 6 Jul 2005 00:08:05 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) Received: from tedwin2k (nat-rtr.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [65.75.197.130]) by mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com (8.11.1/8.11.1) with SMTP id j66096b99273; Tue, 5 Jul 2005 17:09:08 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) From: "Ted Mittelstaedt" To: , Date: Tue, 5 Jul 2005 17:07:51 -0700 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.6604 (9.0.2911.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1478 In-Reply-To: <30059.165.165.200.79.1120507830.squirrel@webmail.telkomsa.net> Importance: Normal Cc: Subject: RE: Linux move to FreeBSD (Beastie vs Penguin) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 06 Jul 2005 00:08:06 -0000 >-----Original Message----- >From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org >[mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]On Behalf Of TvZ >Sent: Monday, July 04, 2005 1:11 PM >To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org >Subject: Re: Linux move to FreeBSD (Beastie vs Penguin) > > > >I would rather see this thread die out I agree - we are killing electrons and those aren't a renewable resource! Do you know how long it takes to grow an electron!!! Besides, we have to keep the list clear! After all, it's important not to interrupt the spammers with posts like this! This is a serious message board, go to alt.humor for your jokes! Ted From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jul 6 00:31:32 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 313D016A41C for ; Wed, 6 Jul 2005 00:31:32 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from danny@ricin.com) Received: from smtpq2.home.nl (smtpq2.home.nl [213.51.128.197]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CA44D43D45 for ; Wed, 6 Jul 2005 00:31:31 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from danny@ricin.com) Received: from [213.51.128.135] (port=37855 helo=smtp4.home.nl) by smtpq2.home.nl with esmtp (Exim 4.30) id 1Dpxp4-0007xE-Kn for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Wed, 06 Jul 2005 02:31:30 +0200 Received: from cp464173-a.dbsch1.nb.home.nl ([84.27.215.228]:59784 helo=desktop.homenet) by smtp4.home.nl with esmtp (Exim 4.30) id 1Dpxp1-0008Fl-9h for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Wed, 06 Jul 2005 02:31:27 +0200 From: Danny Pansters To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Wed, 6 Jul 2005 02:29:56 +0200 User-Agent: KMail/1.8 References: In-Reply-To: X-Face: "0Qv=,p:+]LvuqrtS4U\z3k"qN=.1]@=?utf-8?q?=258=3F=3BPoab=23v=27F=7E=0A=09!Wm=5Fe-=24=7EL=5D=3B?=>[c*L^Qoladj)x@mH}Bqz"vLO?Zdl}[@V@=?utf-8?q?U=3Fx3=23lI=3A=0A=09=24DN=7E!Hr?=@K`-mNv"zXm MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200507060229.56175.danny@ricin.com> X-AtHome-MailScanner-Information: Please contact support@home.nl for more information X-AtHome-MailScanner: Found to be clean Subject: Re: Linux move to FreeBSD (Beastie vs Penguin) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 06 Jul 2005 00:31:32 -0000 On Wednesday 6 July 2005 02:07, Ted Mittelstaedt wrote: > >-----Original Message----- > >From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > >[mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]On Behalf Of TvZ > >Sent: Monday, July 04, 2005 1:11 PM > >To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > >Subject: Re: Linux move to FreeBSD (Beastie vs Penguin) > > > > > > > > > >I would rather see this thread die out > > I agree - we are killing electrons and those aren't a renewable > resource! Do you know how long it takes to grow an electron!!! It's that attitude that demotivates electrones. That's whay they move backwards those damn electrons, they'll never move with the flow from plus to minus :) > Besides, we have to keep the list clear! After > all, it's important not to interrupt the spammers with posts like this! > This is a serious message board, go to alt.humor for your jokes! Well, Ted, the few moments we don't agree may have stood out, but generally and especially when it's about how "our stuff" relates to the wider society I think you always have something thought provoking to say. And well, no surprise, I agree mostly. (I can be a bastard when I don't) It's the imposing upon from religious groups (and well, let's say that I don't think they're muslims) that I find not only annoying but, yeah, downright dangerous. Throwing out 2-3 centuries of enlightenment and scientific advance is not a good idea. Greets, Dan From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jul 6 00:46:29 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9249516A41C; Wed, 6 Jul 2005 00:46:29 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from julian@vicor.com) Received: from postoffice.vicor-nb.com (www.vicor.com [12.155.182.151]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 53FDF43D4C; Wed, 6 Jul 2005 00:46:29 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from julian@vicor.com) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by postoffice.vicor-nb.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8F5C14CE986; Tue, 5 Jul 2005 17:46:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: from postoffice.vicor-nb.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (postoffice.vicor-nb.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 20383-05; Tue, 5 Jul 2005 17:46:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: from bigwoop.vicor-nb.com (bigwoop.vicor-nb.com [208.206.78.2]) by postoffice.vicor-nb.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 607CB4CE7C1; Tue, 5 Jul 2005 17:46:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [208.206.78.97] (julian.vicor-nb.com [208.206.78.97]) by bigwoop.vicor-nb.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 500AF7A403; Tue, 5 Jul 2005 17:46:28 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <42CB29E4.8090203@vicor.com> Date: Tue, 05 Jul 2005 17:46:28 -0700 From: Julian Elischer Organization: VICOR User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.7.8) Gecko/20050629 X-Accept-Language: en, hu MIME-Version: 1.0 To: questions@freebsd.org, gshapiro@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at postoffice.vicor.com Cc: Subject: aaaargghh.. sendmail again X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 06 Jul 2005 00:46:29 -0000 N machines on a "ficticious net "fred.com" (not the real name). neet to get email out to the real world. via connected server mailgate.real.domain. (ficticious name) They pass it forward to a server on their net "server.ficticious.net" which uses the "Smarthost" option in Sendmail to forward them on to mailgate.real.domain, however mailgaet will not accept the mail unless the "sender" resolves to something real. I have no control over that machine. I am trying to alter the sendmail config on server.ficticious.net so that it rewrites the sender (both envelope and header) to be from mumble@registered.domain. the sendmail m4 config file now has: divert(0) VERSIONID(`$FreeBSD: src/etc/sendmail/freebsd.mc,v 1.10.2.17 2002/11/14 03:21:18 keramida Exp $') OSTYPE(freebsd4) DOMAIN(generic) FEATURE(access_db, `hash -o -T /etc/mail/access') FEATURE(blacklist_recipients) FEATURE(local_lmtp) FEATURE(mailertable, `hash -o /etc/mail/mailertable') FEATURE(virtusertable, `hash -o /etc/mail/virtusertable') FEATURE(genericstable, `hash -o /etc/mail/senders.db') FEATURE(masquerade_entire_domain) FEATURE(local_no_masquerade) FEATURE(masquerade_envelope) define(`SMART_HOST', `mailgate.vicor-nb.com') MASQUERADE_AS(`registered.domain') MASQUERADE_DOMAIN(`ficticious.net') MASQUERADE_DOMAIN(`server.ficticious.net') where /etc/mail/senders.db contains: the 'has' version of: root jre@registered.domain root@server.ficticious.net jre2@registered.domain So, by 2 different methods I'm trying to get the mail to say its coming from registered.domain but it isn't doing it, leaving it as comig from server.ficticious.net is there a trick to this? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jul 6 01:04:35 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7862D16A41C; Wed, 6 Jul 2005 01:04:35 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from bernt@bah.homeip.net) Received: from usenet.ath.cx (1-1-1-38a.far.sth.bostream.se [82.182.32.53]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AA49A43D46; Wed, 6 Jul 2005 01:04:34 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from bernt@bah.homeip.net) Received: from [10.0.0.3] (dos [10.0.0.3]) by usenet.ath.cx (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j6614VrH024677; Wed, 6 Jul 2005 03:04:31 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from bernt@bah.homeip.net) Message-ID: <42CB2F1C.4020609@bah.homeip.net> Date: Wed, 06 Jul 2005 03:08:44 +0200 From: Bernt Hansson User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.0.0; hi, Mom) Gecko/20020604 X-Accept-Language: sv, en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Julian Elischer X-Priority: 1 (Highest) References: <42CB29E4.8090203@vicor.com> In-Reply-To: <42CB29E4.8090203@vicor.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: gshapiro@freebsd.org, questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: aaaargghh.. sendmail again X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 06 Jul 2005 01:04:35 -0000 Julian Elischer skrev: > > N machines on a "ficticious net "fred.com" (not the real name). > > neet to get email out to the real world. via connected server > mailgate.real.domain. (ficticious name) > > They pass it forward to a server on their net "server.ficticious.net" > which uses the "Smarthost" option in Sendmail to > forward them on to mailgate.real.domain, > however mailgaet will not accept the mail unless the "sender" > resolves to something real. I have no control over that machine. You have to tell the admin of your smarthost to take your mail. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jul 6 01:33:32 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3C52916A41C for ; Wed, 6 Jul 2005 01:33:32 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from root@pukruppa.de) Received: from moutng.kundenserver.de (moutng.kundenserver.de [212.227.126.171]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C256543D49 for ; Wed, 6 Jul 2005 01:33:31 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from root@pukruppa.de) Received: from reverse-213-146-114-24.cust.kamp-dsl.de [213.146.114.24] (helo=reverse-213-146-114-24.cust.kamp-dsl.de) by mrelayeu.kundenserver.de with ESMTP (Nemesis), id 0MKwh2-1Dpyn31ymB-0006Nd; Wed, 06 Jul 2005 03:33:29 +0200 Date: Wed, 6 Jul 2005 03:33:28 +0200 (CEST) From: "P.U.Kruppa" X-X-Sender: root@www.pukruppa.net To: Wayne Sierke In-Reply-To: <1120584597.57575.51.camel@au.dyndns.ws> Message-ID: <20050706033032.E21919@www.pukruppa.net> References: <1120584597.57575.51.camel@au.dyndns.ws> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Provags-ID: kundenserver.de abuse@kundenserver.de login:2446dbdf8275641f979193ced594c629 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: squid bind to port 80 fails when started via squid.sh script X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 06 Jul 2005 01:33:32 -0000 On Wed, 6 Jul 2005, Wayne Sierke wrote: > FreeBSD 5.4-RELEASE/squid-2.5.9_3 > > If I start squid via the script (as root), I get: > > /var/log/squid_cache.log: > > commBind: Cannot bind socket FD 11 to *:80: (13) Permission denied > FATAL: Cannot open HTTP Port > Squid Cache (Version 2.5.STABLE9): Terminated abnormally. Did you set squid_enable="YES" squid_user="root" squid_flags="-D" in /etc/rc.conf ? Regards, Uli. > > > However, starting it as: > > # /usr/local/sbin/squid -D > > appears to be working (starting) fine. > > Could this be a bug with the squid script or executable or have I missed > something? In squid.conf all settings are at install defaults except > for: > http_port 80 > cache_dir ufs /var/squid/cache 100 16 256 > cache_access_log /var/log/squid_access.log > cache_log /var/log/squid_cache.log > cache_store_log /var/log/squid_store.log > pid_filename /var/run/squid.pid > httpd_accel_host virtual > httpd_accel_port 81 > > > Thanks, > > Wayne > > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > ********************************************* * Peter Ulrich Kruppa - Wuppertal - Germany * ********************************************* From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jul 6 01:35:00 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B248216A41C; Wed, 6 Jul 2005 01:35:00 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from julian@vicor.com) Received: from postoffice.vicor-nb.com (www.vicor.com [12.155.182.151]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 72EDD43D49; Wed, 6 Jul 2005 01:35:00 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from julian@vicor.com) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by postoffice.vicor-nb.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0AC414CE7BB; Tue, 5 Jul 2005 18:35:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: from postoffice.vicor-nb.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (postoffice.vicor-nb.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 22007-03; Tue, 5 Jul 2005 18:34:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: from bigwoop.vicor-nb.com (bigwoop.vicor-nb.com [208.206.78.2]) by postoffice.vicor-nb.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D512A4CE7B6; Tue, 5 Jul 2005 18:34:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [208.206.78.97] (julian.vicor-nb.com [208.206.78.97]) by bigwoop.vicor-nb.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C5CB67A403; Tue, 5 Jul 2005 18:34:59 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <42CB3543.1020102@vicor.com> Date: Tue, 05 Jul 2005 18:34:59 -0700 From: Julian Elischer Organization: VICOR User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.7.8) Gecko/20050629 X-Accept-Language: en, hu MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Bernt Hansson References: <42CB29E4.8090203@vicor.com> <42CB2F1C.4020609@bah.homeip.net> In-Reply-To: <42CB2F1C.4020609@bah.homeip.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at postoffice.vicor.com Cc: gshapiro@freebsd.org, questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: aaaargghh.. sendmail again X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 06 Jul 2005 01:35:00 -0000 Bernt Hansson wrote: > Julian Elischer skrev: > >> >> N machines on a "ficticious net "fred.com" (not the real name). >> >> neet to get email out to the real world. via connected server >> mailgate.real.domain. (ficticious name) >> >> They pass it forward to a server on their net "server.ficticious.net" >> which uses the "Smarthost" option in Sendmail to >> forward them on to mailgate.real.domain, >> however mailgaet will not accept the mail unless the "sender" >> resolves to something real. I have no control over that machine. > > > You have to tell the admin of your smarthost to take your mail. "I have no control over that machine" direct or indirect. > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jul 6 01:43:32 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C0CE916A41C for ; Wed, 6 Jul 2005 01:43:32 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from danny@ricin.com) Received: from smtpq1.home.nl (smtpq1.home.nl [213.51.128.196]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4A00443D46 for ; Wed, 6 Jul 2005 01:43:31 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from danny@ricin.com) Received: from [213.51.128.132] (port=43724 helo=smtp1.home.nl) by smtpq1.home.nl with esmtp (Exim 4.30) id 1Dpywk-0003Pf-Fk; Wed, 06 Jul 2005 03:43:30 +0200 Received: from cp464173-a.dbsch1.nb.home.nl ([84.27.215.228]:50048 helo=desktop.homenet) by smtp1.home.nl with esmtp (Exim 4.30) id 1Dpywf-0007ns-Ua; Wed, 06 Jul 2005 03:43:25 +0200 From: Danny Pansters To: m.hauber@mchsi.com Date: Wed, 6 Jul 2005 03:41:54 +0200 User-Agent: KMail/1.8 References: <200507060229.56175.danny@ricin.com> <200507052106.27869.m.hauber@mchsi.com> In-Reply-To: <200507052106.27869.m.hauber@mchsi.com> X-Face: "0Qv=,p:+]LvuqrtS4U\z3k"qN=.1]@=?utf-8?q?=258=3F=3BPoab=23v=27F=7E=0A=09!Wm=5Fe-=24=7EL=5D=3B?=>[c*L^Qoladj)x@mH}Bqz"vLO?Zdl}[@V@=?utf-8?q?U=3Fx3=23lI=3A=0A=09=24DN=7E!Hr?=@K`-mNv"zXm MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200507060341.54839.danny@ricin.com> X-AtHome-MailScanner-Information: Please contact support@home.nl for more information X-AtHome-MailScanner: Found to be clean Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Linux move to FreeBSD (Beastie vs Penguin) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 06 Jul 2005 01:43:32 -0000 On Wednesday 6 July 2005 03:06, Mike Hauber wrote: > On Tuesday 05 July 2005 08:29 pm, you wrote: > > It's the imposing upon from religious groups (and well, let's > > say that I don't think they're muslims) that I find not only > > annoying but, yeah, downright dangerous. Throwing out 2-3 > > centuries of enlightenment and scientific advance is not a good > > idea. > > > > Greets, > > > > Dan > > Come on, now... Just because someone is a Christian, it doesn't > mean he/she's a quack. _Every_ religion has their extremists. I > don't think it's very cool to knock whole societies of faith > (regardless of what faith it is) based on the whims of the few > who are too narrow-minded to see past their glasses... > > Thanks, > > Mike I agree. They can think whatever they want. That's fine with me. But like I said, they have no right to impose their belives upon others and certainly not upon a group of people who provide something technical (like an OS) for free. They have no right to do that, they have every right to think what they want to think. So have I. Religion should be merely a private matter. And if so I have the highest respect for someone doing or not doing or undoing or redoing something out of religious belief. And yes, most religious people (muslim, jew, christian, both catholic or reformed) *are* much more moderate than their leadership. So, when are they going to stand up? It's their movement, not mine. It's their sense of justice, not mine. Are they so diverted that they've lost beforehand? As long as they don't I reckon they agree with their extreme leadership. And they surely insult and condemn me (a secular gay gay who has been in a 10 year happy and monogam relationship with one person so far thank you how many rednecks can say that? -- not implying you are one). So I find a little offensive here certainly not unappropriate. It's probably needed. The American Taliban is not all that far away. In fact they're quite powerful, more than the "moderates" seem to think. Greets, Dan From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jul 6 01:45:25 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CF3CE16A41C for ; Wed, 6 Jul 2005 01:45:25 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from do.you.got.root@gmail.com) Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.196]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6DC5743D45 for ; Wed, 6 Jul 2005 01:45:25 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from do.you.got.root@gmail.com) Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 36so1029829wra for ; Tue, 05 Jul 2005 18:45:24 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=absDU1QPjbytmwo0X7aw5VKhYG+72sRz4otapExRpSfgDV8GElpCMZHZQ/gd5t3vT5ly6j6skaDN4Xb+AhqriCfxboXjYDD8MGmTMXGWIHE6J5+899Qe8J89Jmjaq67CRo/sUSU3yrWUylXebxHnxwkH9M5rQcKnJ312yWeBVpI= Received: by 10.54.11.79 with SMTP id 79mr53384wrk; Tue, 05 Jul 2005 18:45:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.78.3 with HTTP; Tue, 5 Jul 2005 18:44:54 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Tue, 5 Jul 2005 21:44:54 -0400 From: Todd Suits To: jdyke@azimapower.com In-Reply-To: <42CB1958.10204@azimapower.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline References: <200507051119.12128.algould@datawok.com> <20050705202435.628d4783.albi@scii.nl> <42CB1958.10204@azimapower.com> Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Apache 2 SSL Error X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Todd Suits List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 06 Jul 2005 01:45:26 -0000 Jeff You are correct! I was not starting Apache with SSL. I knew I had to use the startssl command however I was using webmin for ease of "clicking" start and stop and I had entered "startssl" in the wrong box in the module config so therefor I was not starting Apache with SSL. Once I started with SSL there were a few error's I had to=20 correct with the certificates I generated and in the ssl.conf but starting it correctly was the problem. Thank you.. I have spent many hours trying to get this set up and was very frustrated over the whole project. Thanks again to everyone who took the time to reply. This list is a great resource and without everyones participation it would not work. 7/5/05, jdyke wrote: >=20 >=20 >=20 > Todd Suits wrote: > > Sorry for all the responses but Googling has brought up possible > > problems or questions. I am starting Apache with > > /usr/local/sbin/apachectl startssl is this correct for the FreeBSD > > compiled version? > > > you don't *have to* use that, you can just use /usr/local/etc/rc.d/apache= .sh and > make sure that apache2ssl_enable=3D"YES" in /etc/rc.conf >=20 > to my knowledge, which may be lacking, you should be able to execute apac= hes > start script as well. >=20 > if you run `ps -waux | grep httpd` from the prompt do you see httpd liste= d with > -DSSL ?? the errors about 'invalid method' lead me to believe that you i= ts only > started as http not https. >=20 > what is in the error log as soon as you run /usr/local/sbin/apachectl sta= rtssl > and what does the above ps show. >=20 > jeff > > On 7/5/05, Todd Suits wrote: > > > >>As an update the command: $ openssl s_client -connect localhost:443 > >>-state -debug from the Apache documents, produces the following > >>output: > >> > >>killians# openssl s_client -connect localhost:443 -state -debug > >>CONNECTED(00000003) > >>SSL_connect:before/connect initialization > >>write to 0809A500 [080B1000] (142 bytes =3D> 142 (0x8E)) > >>0000 - 80 8c 01 03 01 00 63 00-00 00 20 00 00 39 00 00 ......c... ..9= .. > >>0010 - 38 00 00 35 00 00 16 00-00 13 00 00 0a 07 00 c0 8..5..........= .. > >>0020 - 00 00 33 00 00 32 00 00-2f 03 00 80 00 00 66 00 ..3..2../.....= f. > >>0030 - 00 05 00 00 04 01 00 80-08 00 80 00 00 63 00 00 .............c= .. > >>0040 - 62 00 00 61 00 00 15 00-00 12 00 00 09 06 00 40 b..a..........= .@ > >>0050 - 00 00 65 00 00 64 00 00-60 00 00 14 00 00 11 00 ..e..d..`.....= .. > >>0060 - 00 08 00 00 06 04 00 80-00 00 03 02 00 80 b3 46 ..............= .F > >>0070 - 18 14 e5 bd de 65 4e 39-1c 60 c4 c2 81 f5 bb 8a .....eN9.`....= .. > >>0080 - 68 00 e0 db 23 c8 ad c2-44 23 81 83 51 93 h...#...D#..Q. > >>SSL_connect:SSLv2/v3 write client hello A > >>read from 0809A500 [080B7000] (7 bytes =3D> 7 (0x7)) > >>0000 - 3c 21 44 4f 43 54 59 >>SSL_connect:error in SSLv2/v3 read server hello A > >>50689:error:140770FC:SSL routines:SSL23_GET_SERVER_HELLO:unknown > >>protocol:/usr/s > >>rc/secure/lib/libssl/../../../crypto/openssl/ssl/s23_clnt.c:475: > >> > >>I'm just not sure how to deal with it. > >> > >> > >>On 7/5/05, Todd Suits wrote: > >> > >>>I have no problem accessing other https sites and there is not a > >>>router, the jail is set up on a dedicated server in a data center > >>>where serives like this are provided. > >>> > >>>On 7/5/05, albi@scii.nl wrote: > >>> > >>>>On Tue, 5 Jul 2005 14:21:03 -0400 > >>>>Todd Suits wrote: > >>>> > >>>> > >>>>>https:// is what im trying to use. http:// just brings my normal > >>>>>index.html page. > >>>> > >>>>---cut--- > >>>> > >>>>>>> I get the following error in httpd-error.log: > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>>[Tue Jul 05 10:15:28 2005] [error] [client 24.123.123.123] Invalid > >>>>>>>method in request \x80g\x01\x03 > >>>> > >>>>are you using a hardware-router or something ? > >>>>if so, did you open the 443 port on that router and set up > >>>>portforwarding to port 443 ? > >>>> > >>>> > >>> > > _______________________________________________ > > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd= .org" > > > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jul 6 01:52:51 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 50DEF16A446 for ; Wed, 6 Jul 2005 01:52:51 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from gshapiro@gshapiro.net) Received: from gir.gshapiro.net (gir.gshapiro.net [209.246.26.16]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 344E943D45 for ; Wed, 6 Jul 2005 01:52:51 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from gshapiro@gshapiro.net) Received: from gir.gshapiro.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gir.gshapiro.net (8.13.3/8.13.3) with ESMTP id j661qohP026382 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Tue, 5 Jul 2005 18:52:50 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gshapiro@gir.gshapiro.net) Received: (from gshapiro@localhost) by gir.gshapiro.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/Submit) id j661qkhQ026377; Tue, 5 Jul 2005 18:52:46 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gshapiro) Date: Tue, 5 Jul 2005 18:52:46 -0700 From: Gregory Neil Shapiro To: Julian Elischer Message-ID: <20050706015246.GB69456@gir.gshapiro.net> References: <42CB29E4.8090203@vicor.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <42CB29E4.8090203@vicor.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.8i Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: aaaargghh.. sendmail again X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 06 Jul 2005 01:52:51 -0000 > I am trying to alter the sendmail config on server.ficticious.net > so that it rewrites the sender (both envelope and header) > to be from mumble@registered.domain. > > the sendmail m4 config file now has: Your config plus the addition of FEATURE(allmasquerade) in case some of the local addresses are Cc'ed on mail going out of your domain should do the job. However, since you are sending this question, it looks like that isn't the case. What is the output of: # sendmail -Am -bt > /tryflags es > /try relay someuser@fictious.domain (where that address is replaced with the actual one that isn't working) Feel free to send the debug output from the above command to me directly if you are worried about revealing confidential info to the mailing list at large. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jul 6 01:56:07 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CB58F16A420 for ; Wed, 6 Jul 2005 01:56:06 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: from nic.ach.sch.gr (nic.sch.gr [194.63.238.4]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B8F8343D53 for ; Wed, 6 Jul 2005 01:56:04 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: (qmail 4617 invoked by uid 207); 6 Jul 2005 01:56:02 -0000 Received: from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr by nic by uid 201 with qmail-scanner-1.21 (sophie: 3.04/2.19/3.81. Clear:RC:1(81.186.70.186):. Processed in 1.332457 secs); 06 Jul 2005 01:56:02 -0000 Received: from dialup186.ach.sch.gr (HELO gothmog.gr) ([81.186.70.186]) (envelope-sender ) by nic.sch.gr (qmail-ldap-1.03) with DES-CBC3-SHA encrypted SMTP for ; 6 Jul 2005 01:56:00 -0000 Received: from gothmog.gr (gothmog [127.0.0.1]) by gothmog.gr (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id j661tviT003607; Wed, 6 Jul 2005 04:55:57 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: (from giorgos@localhost) by gothmog.gr (8.13.4/8.13.4/Submit) id j661tu3L003606; Wed, 6 Jul 2005 04:55:56 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Date: Wed, 6 Jul 2005 04:55:56 +0300 From: Giorgos Keramidas To: Julian Elischer Message-ID: <20050706015555.GA3301@gothmog.gr> References: <42CB29E4.8090203@vicor.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <42CB29E4.8090203@vicor.com> Cc: gshapiro@freebsd.org, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: aaaargghh.. sendmail again X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 06 Jul 2005 01:56:07 -0000 On 2005-07-05 17:46, Julian Elischer wrote: > > N machines on a "ficticious net "fred.com" (not the real name). > > neet to get email out to the real world. via connected server > mailgate.real.domain. (ficticious name) > > They pass it forward to a server on their net "server.ficticious.net" > which uses the "Smarthost" option in Sendmail to > forward them on to mailgate.real.domain, > however mailgaet will not accept the mail unless the "sender" > resolves to something real. I have no control over that machine. > > I am trying to alter the sendmail config on server.ficticious.net > so that it rewrites the sender (both envelope and header) > to be from mumble@registered.domain. > > the sendmail m4 config file now has: > divert(0) > VERSIONID(`$FreeBSD: src/etc/sendmail/freebsd.mc,v 1.10.2.17 2002/11/14 03:21:18 keramida Exp $') > OSTYPE(freebsd4) > DOMAIN(generic) > > FEATURE(access_db, `hash -o -T /etc/mail/access') > FEATURE(blacklist_recipients) > FEATURE(local_lmtp) > FEATURE(mailertable, `hash -o /etc/mail/mailertable') > FEATURE(virtusertable, `hash -o /etc/mail/virtusertable') > FEATURE(genericstable, `hash -o /etc/mail/senders.db') > > FEATURE(masquerade_entire_domain) > FEATURE(local_no_masquerade) > FEATURE(masquerade_envelope) > > define(`SMART_HOST', `mailgate.vicor-nb.com') > > MASQUERADE_AS(`registered.domain') > MASQUERADE_DOMAIN(`ficticious.net') > MASQUERADE_DOMAIN(`server.ficticious.net') > where /etc/mail/senders.db > contains: the 'has' version of: > > root jre@registered.domain > root@server.ficticious.net jre2@registered.domain > So, by 2 different methods I'm trying to get the mail to say its > coming from registered.domain but it isn't doing it, leaving it as > comig from server.ficticious.net Hi Julian, Have you also tried sending email from a non-root account? The root user is "exposed" by default in Sendmail. This means that the root user will *NOT* be masqueraded or remapped through genericstable. You can see that the root user is exposed by looking at the {E} class: gothmog:/etc/mail# grep '{E}' sendmail.cf C{E}root Try sending email from a different local user or remove the root user from the {E} class (by manually editing sendmail.cf and restarting Sendmail). From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jul 6 02:00:36 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4D89116A41C for ; Wed, 6 Jul 2005 02:00:36 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from gshapiro@gshapiro.net) Received: from gir.gshapiro.net (gir.gshapiro.net [209.246.26.16]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2E48A43D45 for ; Wed, 6 Jul 2005 02:00:36 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from gshapiro@gshapiro.net) Received: from gir.gshapiro.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gir.gshapiro.net (8.13.3/8.13.3) with ESMTP id j6620QwW026603 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Tue, 5 Jul 2005 19:00:26 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gshapiro@gir.gshapiro.net) Received: (from gshapiro@localhost) by gir.gshapiro.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/Submit) id j6620QZN026602; Tue, 5 Jul 2005 19:00:26 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gshapiro) Date: Tue, 5 Jul 2005 19:00:26 -0700 From: Gregory Neil Shapiro To: Giorgos Keramidas Message-ID: <20050706020026.GC69456@gir.gshapiro.net> References: <42CB29E4.8090203@vicor.com> <20050706015555.GA3301@gothmog.gr> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20050706015555.GA3301@gothmog.gr> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.8i Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, Julian Elischer Subject: Re: aaaargghh.. sendmail again X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 06 Jul 2005 02:00:36 -0000 > Have you also tried sending email from a non-root account? The root > user is "exposed" by default in Sendmail. This means that the root user > will *NOT* be masqueraded or remapped through genericstable. You can > see that the root user is exposed by looking at the {E} class: > > gothmog:/etc/mail# grep '{E}' sendmail.cf > C{E}root That hasn't be the case since 8.10.0, released more than five years ago. Giorgos, you should update your configuration. 8.10.0/8.10.0 2000/03/01 CONFIG: Removed root from class E; use EXPOSED_USER(`root') to get the old behavior. Suggested by Joe Pruett of Q7 Enterprises. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jul 6 02:07:40 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A1DBE16A41C; Wed, 6 Jul 2005 02:07:40 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: from kane.otenet.gr (kane.otenet.gr [195.170.0.95]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 051BA43D49; Wed, 6 Jul 2005 02:07:39 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: from gothmog.gr (patr530-a132.otenet.gr [212.205.215.132]) by kane.otenet.gr (8.13.4/8.13.4/Debian-1) with ESMTP id j6627bMw017559; Wed, 6 Jul 2005 05:07:37 +0300 Received: from gothmog.gr (gothmog [127.0.0.1]) by gothmog.gr (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id j6627Z5F003890; Wed, 6 Jul 2005 05:07:35 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: (from giorgos@localhost) by gothmog.gr (8.13.4/8.13.4/Submit) id j6627YEV003889; Wed, 6 Jul 2005 05:07:34 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Date: Wed, 6 Jul 2005 05:07:34 +0300 From: Giorgos Keramidas To: Gregory Neil Shapiro Message-ID: <20050706020734.GA3762@gothmog.gr> References: <42CB29E4.8090203@vicor.com> <20050706015555.GA3301@gothmog.gr> <20050706020026.GC69456@gir.gshapiro.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20050706020026.GC69456@gir.gshapiro.net> Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, Julian Elischer Subject: Re: aaaargghh.. sendmail again X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 06 Jul 2005 02:07:40 -0000 On 2005-07-05 19:00, Gregory Neil Shapiro wrote: > > Have you also tried sending email from a non-root account? The root > > user is "exposed" by default in Sendmail. This means that the root user > > will *NOT* be masqueraded or remapped through genericstable. You can > > see that the root user is exposed by looking at the {E} class: > > > > gothmog:/etc/mail# grep '{E}' sendmail.cf > > C{E}root > > That hasn't be the case since 8.10.0, released more than five years ago. > Giorgos, you should update your configuration. > > 8.10.0/8.10.0 2000/03/01 > CONFIG: Removed root from class E; use EXPOSED_USER(`root') > to get the old behavior. Suggested by Joe Pruett > of Q7 Enterprises. That's funny. I can see root in the E class even in the standard freebsd.cf generated from the freebsd.mc file we have in src/etc/sendmail: % gothmog:/etc/mail# cp /usr/src/etc/sendmail/freebsd.mc . % gothmog:/etc/mail# cp /usr/src/etc/sendmail/freebsd.submit.mc . % gothmog:/etc/mail# make freebsd.cf % /usr/bin/m4 -D_CF_DIR_=/usr/share/sendmail/cf/ /usr/share/sendmail/cf/m4/cf.m4 freebsd.mc > freebsd.cf % gothmog:/etc/mail# grep '{E}' freebsd.cf % C{E}root I must be doing something wrong. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jul 6 02:10:56 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B05A916A41C for ; Wed, 6 Jul 2005 02:10:56 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from gshapiro@gshapiro.net) Received: from gir.gshapiro.net (gir.gshapiro.net [209.246.26.16]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 79FC143D45 for ; Wed, 6 Jul 2005 02:10:56 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from gshapiro@gshapiro.net) Received: from gir.gshapiro.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gir.gshapiro.net (8.13.3/8.13.3) with ESMTP id j662AsWa026808 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Tue, 5 Jul 2005 19:10:54 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gshapiro@gir.gshapiro.net) Received: (from gshapiro@localhost) by gir.gshapiro.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/Submit) id j662As2q026807; Tue, 5 Jul 2005 19:10:54 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gshapiro) Date: Tue, 5 Jul 2005 19:10:54 -0700 From: Gregory Neil Shapiro To: Giorgos Keramidas Message-ID: <20050706021053.GD69456@gir.gshapiro.net> References: <42CB29E4.8090203@vicor.com> <20050706015555.GA3301@gothmog.gr> <20050706020026.GC69456@gir.gshapiro.net> <20050706020734.GA3762@gothmog.gr> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20050706020734.GA3762@gothmog.gr> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.8i Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, Julian Elischer Subject: Re: aaaargghh.. sendmail again X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 06 Jul 2005 02:10:56 -0000 > That's funny. I can see root in the E class even in the standard freebsd.cf > generated from the freebsd.mc file we have in src/etc/sendmail: Aha, DOMAIN(generic) has the EXPOSED_USER() call. That is what is adding it in. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jul 6 02:25:38 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5F59E16A41C; Wed, 6 Jul 2005 02:25:38 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: from rosebud.otenet.gr (rosebud.otenet.gr [195.170.0.94]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 90CC343D46; Wed, 6 Jul 2005 02:25:37 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: from gothmog.gr (patr530-a132.otenet.gr [212.205.215.132]) by rosebud.otenet.gr (8.13.4/8.13.4/Debian-1) with ESMTP id j662PYFg020320; Wed, 6 Jul 2005 05:25:35 +0300 Received: from gothmog.gr (gothmog [127.0.0.1]) by gothmog.gr (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id j662PXi1003999; Wed, 6 Jul 2005 05:25:33 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: (from giorgos@localhost) by gothmog.gr (8.13.4/8.13.4/Submit) id j662PXCs003998; Wed, 6 Jul 2005 05:25:33 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Date: Wed, 6 Jul 2005 05:25:33 +0300 From: Giorgos Keramidas To: Gregory Neil Shapiro Message-ID: <20050706022533.GA3975@gothmog.gr> References: <42CB29E4.8090203@vicor.com> <20050706015555.GA3301@gothmog.gr> <20050706020026.GC69456@gir.gshapiro.net> <20050706020734.GA3762@gothmog.gr> <20050706021053.GD69456@gir.gshapiro.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20050706021053.GD69456@gir.gshapiro.net> Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, Julian Elischer Subject: Re: aaaargghh.. sendmail again X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 06 Jul 2005 02:25:38 -0000 On 2005-07-05 19:10, Gregory Neil Shapiro wrote: > > That's funny. I can see root in the E class even in the standard freebsd.cf > > generated from the freebsd.mc file we have in src/etc/sendmail: > > Aha, DOMAIN(generic) has the EXPOSED_USER() call. That is what is > adding it in. Very true. Is that correct though, or should we remove it from the generic.m4 file of FreeBSD? It would be nice to have all the existing options of DOMAIN(generic), like confFORWARD_PATH or confMAX_HEADERS_LENGTH, without having to duplicate them in freebsd.mc (or the local equivalent) but without also exposing automatically usernames like 'root'. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jul 6 02:31:23 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2B47216A41C for ; Wed, 6 Jul 2005 02:31:23 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from gshapiro@gshapiro.net) Received: from gir.gshapiro.net (gir.gshapiro.net [209.246.26.16]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E9D3543D45 for ; Wed, 6 Jul 2005 02:31:22 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from gshapiro@gshapiro.net) Received: from gir.gshapiro.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gir.gshapiro.net (8.13.3/8.13.3) with ESMTP id j662VKhP027122 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Tue, 5 Jul 2005 19:31:20 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gshapiro@gir.gshapiro.net) Received: (from gshapiro@localhost) by gir.gshapiro.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/Submit) id j662VKo6027121; Tue, 5 Jul 2005 19:31:20 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gshapiro) Date: Tue, 5 Jul 2005 19:31:20 -0700 From: Gregory Neil Shapiro To: Giorgos Keramidas Message-ID: <20050706023120.GE69456@gir.gshapiro.net> References: <42CB29E4.8090203@vicor.com> <20050706015555.GA3301@gothmog.gr> <20050706020026.GC69456@gir.gshapiro.net> <20050706020734.GA3762@gothmog.gr> <20050706021053.GD69456@gir.gshapiro.net> <20050706022533.GA3975@gothmog.gr> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20050706022533.GA3975@gothmog.gr> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.8i Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, Julian Elischer Subject: Re: aaaargghh.. sendmail again X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 06 Jul 2005 02:31:23 -0000 > Very true. Is that correct though, or should we remove it from the > generic.m4 file of FreeBSD? No, I don't want to diverge from Sendmail's source any more than we already have for a variety of reasons. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jul 6 02:40:28 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0DFA516A41C; Wed, 6 Jul 2005 02:40:28 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: from aiolos.otenet.gr (aiolos.otenet.gr [195.170.0.93]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 614CB43D53; Wed, 6 Jul 2005 02:40:26 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: from gothmog.gr (patr530-a132.otenet.gr [212.205.215.132]) by aiolos.otenet.gr (8.13.4/8.13.4/Debian-1) with ESMTP id j662eOO7001813; Wed, 6 Jul 2005 05:40:25 +0300 Received: from gothmog.gr (gothmog [127.0.0.1]) by gothmog.gr (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id j662eNie004162; Wed, 6 Jul 2005 05:40:23 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: (from giorgos@localhost) by gothmog.gr (8.13.4/8.13.4/Submit) id j662eNTc004161; Wed, 6 Jul 2005 05:40:23 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Date: Wed, 6 Jul 2005 05:40:23 +0300 From: Giorgos Keramidas To: Gregory Neil Shapiro , Julian Elischer Message-ID: <20050706024023.GA4129@gothmog.gr> References: <42CB29E4.8090203@vicor.com> <20050706015555.GA3301@gothmog.gr> <20050706020026.GC69456@gir.gshapiro.net> <20050706020734.GA3762@gothmog.gr> <20050706021053.GD69456@gir.gshapiro.net> <20050706022533.GA3975@gothmog.gr> <20050706023120.GE69456@gir.gshapiro.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20050706023120.GE69456@gir.gshapiro.net> Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: aaaargghh.. sendmail again X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 06 Jul 2005 02:40:28 -0000 On 2005-07-05 19:31, Gregory Neil Shapiro wrote: > > Very true. Is that correct though, or should we remove it from the > > generic.m4 file of FreeBSD? > > No, I don't want to diverge from Sendmail's source any more than we > already have for a variety of reasons. That's ok :-) Just to summarize then, the solution to Julian's problem then is either one of: a) Manually edit the generated sendmail.cf and remove the C{E}root line. b) Avoid using DOMAIN(generic) and manually copy over whatever seems interesting from generic.m4 into his local sendmail.mc file and then regenerate sendmail.cf from that .mc file. I'd probably go for choise (b), because it doesn't require remembering local "hacks" like "open that file in your editor, remove that line, add this one, etc." From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jul 6 02:56:25 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: questions@FreeBSD.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0D89D16A41C for ; Wed, 6 Jul 2005 02:56:25 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from mclouthtp@yahoo.com) Received: from web51612.mail.yahoo.com (web51612.mail.yahoo.com [68.142.224.85]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id A681343D46 for ; Wed, 6 Jul 2005 02:56:24 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from mclouthtp@yahoo.com) Received: (qmail 40639 invoked by uid 60001); 6 Jul 2005 02:56:24 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=tj19LtNKN58EkbHai0g9Pv7AUO2+UbSeBT692Si3+Z62mZyQNfYhhW7bQnMY3AsiwX5/VE+WyWqOutlv6utKIY/rbIH2KkOW+jLsO9XsiEm1cPZ5ETrRkPVNdb2qFw09HKy4993qSuJoslyDDmMsUc8OZE1EHW+4zO4YBLwGGJs= ; Message-ID: <20050706025624.40637.qmail@web51612.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [71.115.166.165] by web51612.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Tue, 05 Jul 2005 19:56:23 PDT Date: Tue, 5 Jul 2005 19:56:23 -0700 (PDT) From: Timothy McLouth To: questions@FreeBSD.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: Subject: Nothing works X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 06 Jul 2005 02:56:25 -0000 First i tried to make my own installation cd(s) from the instructions given, they did not work so I e-mailed for answers got two different answers neither of which worked so i bought the installation cd(s) ver 5.4...I downloaded the manual which is of little or no use due to variations in installation methods described in the manual and what is actually shown on screen...the ports collection came with it...when i use the make install command it tries to access the internet..then i get a message saying, it couldnt fetch,... try manually... error 1...what is the problem i would really like to use this operating system...I also bought a book for $47 which is useless, the title is misleading..."The design and implementation of FreeBSD" is of no use unless you want to know what the processor is doing from start to end....what a waste of money......I am familiar with unix and still have my unix book from college, in addition i have a bachelors of science in computer information systems...Im begining to believe that this is all BS unless i get some straight answers... __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? 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Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jul 6 02:56:26 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C1EB016A41C for ; Wed, 6 Jul 2005 02:56:26 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jdyke@azimapower.com) Received: from extgw01.msys.intellispace.net (extgw01.msys.intellispace.net [160.79.150.226]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7177543D45 for ; Wed, 6 Jul 2005 02:56:26 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jdyke@azimapower.com) Received: from malone.intellispace.net (malone.intellispace.net [160.79.145.141]) by extgw01.msys.intellispace.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 25E2FC6AAC; Tue, 5 Jul 2005 22:55:45 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [192.168.2.45] (66.9.108.98) by malone.intellispace.net (5.1.053) id 42C690CE0014252C; Tue, 5 Jul 2005 22:54:32 -0400 Message-ID: <42CB482F.8070007@azimapower.com> Date: Wed, 06 Jul 2005 02:55:43 +0000 From: jdyke Organization: Azima Inc. User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (Windows/20041206) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: jdyke@azimapower.com References: <42C97198.1070007@azimapower.com> <42CA8375.7070205@azimapower.com> In-Reply-To: <42CA8375.7070205@azimapower.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: rebuild of a jail uses old DESTDIR - solved X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: jdyke@azimapower.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 06 Jul 2005 02:56:26 -0000 jdyke wrote: >> i had built a jail a few weeks ago as a learning expierence, >> specifying a DESTDIR of /usr/jail/ssh for make world, i don't really >> want it to reside there long term and want to build it with less >> features enabled in make.conf. So now I'm trying to build another jail >> in another location and `make world DESTDIR=/path/to/new/dir` fails with >> -------------------------------------------------------------- >> >>> Building an up-to-date make(1) >> -------------------------------------------------------------- >> make: don't know how to make /usr/jail/ssh/usr/lib/libc.a. Stop >> >> >> I've run a make clean and make cleandir and tried to re run without >> success. i'm currently running a grep to look for the old path in any >> file on the whole system, /etc/ and /usr similar greps came up empty. >> >> How can i make the system forget about the old DESTDIR? Should i just >> delete all of /usr/src and cvsup? > > Hate to reply to my own post...but i've completely removed /usr/src and > cvsup'd in the hopes this would clear, but does not. I also have > rebooted the machine, cause i'm getting desperate. > > Is there anyway to clear the old DESTDIR out of there. Its at the point > where i can not even rebuild the jail in the old spot, i get the same > error as above. > > I can not run `make buildworld` without supplying a DESTDIR, so this is > going to hit home again then next time it try to update. > > If there is a better list to post this on, i'd be glad to move it. well, if anyone ever comes across this issue, the solution is to either clear out /usr/obj entirely and start over, the offending file was a .depend in /usr/obj/usr/src/make/.depend. the last line was pointing to liba.c in that directory. jd > > Any help appreciated, thanks! > jd > > 5.4-RELEASE > >> >> thanks for any assistance >> jd > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jul 6 03:14:22 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 83F0716A41F for ; Wed, 6 Jul 2005 03:14:22 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from danny@ricin.com) Received: from smtpq1.home.nl (smtpq1.home.nl [213.51.128.196]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B677643D55 for ; Wed, 6 Jul 2005 03:14:21 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from danny@ricin.com) Received: from [213.51.128.135] (port=40110 helo=smtp4.home.nl) by smtpq1.home.nl with esmtp (Exim 4.30) id 1Dq0Me-00035i-Au for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Wed, 06 Jul 2005 05:14:20 +0200 Received: from cp464173-a.dbsch1.nb.home.nl ([84.27.215.228]:55563 helo=desktop.homenet) by smtp4.home.nl with esmtp (Exim 4.30) id 1Dq0Md-0007jy-9Z for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Wed, 06 Jul 2005 05:14:19 +0200 From: Danny Pansters To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Wed, 6 Jul 2005 05:12:48 +0200 User-Agent: KMail/1.8 References: <20050706025624.40637.qmail@web51612.mail.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <20050706025624.40637.qmail@web51612.mail.yahoo.com> X-Face: "0Qv=,p:+]LvuqrtS4U\z3k"qN=.1]@=?utf-8?q?=258=3F=3BPoab=23v=27F=7E=0A=09!Wm=5Fe-=24=7EL=5D=3B?=>[c*L^Qoladj)x@mH}Bqz"vLO?Zdl}[@V@=?utf-8?q?U=3Fx3=23lI=3A=0A=09=24DN=7E!Hr?=@K`-mNv"zXm MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200507060512.48291.danny@ricin.com> X-AtHome-MailScanner-Information: Please contact support@home.nl for more information X-AtHome-MailScanner: Found to be clean Subject: Re: Nothing works X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Timothy McLouth List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 06 Jul 2005 03:14:22 -0000 On Wednesday 6 July 2005 04:56, Timothy McLouth wrote: > First i tried to make my own installation cd(s) from the instructions > given, they did not work so I e-mailed for answers got two different > answers neither of which worked so i bought the installation cd(s) ver Pff, sounds like you had a really bad experience there. Please note though that the poeple you are mailing here are not the ones you bought any CDs from. Anyway, let's see if we can get this solved... > 5.4...I downloaded the manual which is of little or no use due to > variations in installation methods described in the manual and what is ? Can you say what was diffrent. If so the docs are perhaps outdated. > actually shown on screen...the ports collection came with it...when i use > the make install command it tries to access the internet..then i get a > message saying, it couldnt fetch,... try manually... error 1...what is the Hmm during sysinstall(8) I suppose you didn't set up any host/ip and route? You should, or do it by hand (/etc/resolv.conf) > problem i would really like to use this operating system...I also bought a > book for $47 which is useless, the title is misleading..."The design and > implementation of FreeBSD" is of no use unless you want to know what the That's a book for developers. Try Greg LeHey's.. or while you're at it, probably the Handbook is the best. > processor is doing from start to end....what a waste of money......I am > familiar with unix and still have my unix book from college, in addition i > have a bachelors of science in computer information systems...Im begining > to believe that this is all BS unless i get some straight answers... Well, hope I give some. FreeBSD is quite useful to me (as a desktop and firewall/router). I prefer it over other OS'es. Just ask the list or me if you need more help (and don't forget the very useful Handbook: http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/) If you have some patience and are willing to learn, chances that you're gonna be running a nice FreeBSD system next week are good (barring hardware issues) HTH, Dan From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jul 6 03:25:46 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: questions@FreeBSD.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F1D0816A41C for ; Wed, 6 Jul 2005 03:25:46 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from edu07643@yahoo.com.br) Received: from web61019.mail.yahoo.com (web61019.mail.yahoo.com [209.73.179.13]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 9014343D53 for ; Wed, 6 Jul 2005 03:25:46 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from edu07643@yahoo.com.br) Received: (qmail 42721 invoked by uid 60001); 6 Jul 2005 03:25:45 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com.br; h=Message-ID:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=wQN4B2MPznfiOKDL3aavIVrqkyzPovyxGxuZ/k+RLiw1abdi/dC9v7KWY+YOES6Vp148TbHyC/CsNQRiVGRI0qZux9vldIvQEtlWkAoMkAJwhI1aBKRQt8UE7vs4qNbYoMK5NvKvM7ywq7GcwA/8T7GEOTsxz48NGHYMS2fXMTU= ; Message-ID: <20050706032545.42719.qmail@web61019.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [69.86.19.170] by web61019.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Wed, 06 Jul 2005 00:25:45 ART Date: Wed, 6 Jul 2005 00:25:45 -0300 (ART) From: "E. J. Cerejo" To: Timothy McLouth , questions@FreeBSD.org In-Reply-To: <20050706025624.40637.qmail@web51612.mail.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Cc: Subject: Re: Nothing works X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 06 Jul 2005 03:25:47 -0000 First you should stop with this kind of sarcasm, I knew very little about FreeBSD when I first started and today I have no problems configuring it the way I want it yet yo claim to be familiar with unix and you are having such a nightmare! Something is wrong! You need to do some reading, not because it's FreeBSD but because it's freaking unix, anyone would have to do the same with linux or any other unix flavor. You bought the wrong book, that book is not for you, you should of gone with "The Complete FreeBSD" (the latest one) or "FreeBSD: An Open-Source Operating System for Your Personal Computer" if it has been updated to 5x. I'm assuming you were able to install freebsd since you've tried to install some ports and couldn't, so the reason it couldn't it's because you're not connected to the internet, when you run make it tries to download the source code automatically and because it can't it fails, no code no candy! Install from packages instead, you should have most of them on CD. --- Timothy McLouth escreveu: > First i tried to make my own installation cd(s) from > the instructions given, they did not work so I > e-mailed for answers got two different answers > neither of which worked so i bought the installation > cd(s) ver 5.4...I downloaded the manual which is of > little or no use due to variations in installation > methods described in the manual and what is actually > shown on screen...the ports collection came with > it...when i use the make install command it tries to > access the internet..then i get a message saying, it > couldnt fetch,... try manually... error 1...what is > the problem i would really like to use this > operating system...I also bought a book for $47 > which is useless, the title is misleading..."The > design and implementation of FreeBSD" is of no use > unless you want to know what the processor is doing > from start to end....what a waste of money......I am > familiar with unix and still have my unix book from > college, in addition i have a bachelors of science > in computer information > systems...Im begining to believe that this is all > BS unless i get some straight answers... > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Tired of spam? 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Instale o discador agora! http://br.acesso.yahoo.com/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jul 6 03:28:08 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BD7E616A41F for ; Wed, 6 Jul 2005 03:28:08 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from larsen.nick@gmail.com) Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.193]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5C91B43D53 for ; Wed, 6 Jul 2005 03:28:08 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from larsen.nick@gmail.com) Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id z6so536200nzd for ; Tue, 05 Jul 2005 20:28:07 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=NAkTu8Npp2VFPWc/rRqI4GMGqNsHbk7A03nqM20BXnxEGfL75Q4xsdpQ673w/5yQBwZ9vNlE8kEc8V/NMIL8joQqeO3DSZeK6vDNgemoIaumE/pggneFKRXtZBr7kitrO1wMeewmaHxNXVgi2Nnwb/4mI5SfC0XQokbTf8w2uRs= Received: by 10.36.104.16 with SMTP id b16mr1585293nzc; Tue, 05 Jul 2005 20:28:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.103.9 with HTTP; Tue, 5 Jul 2005 20:28:07 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Wed, 6 Jul 2005 15:28:07 +1200 From: Nick Larsen To: Timothy McLouth In-Reply-To: <20050706025624.40637.qmail@web51612.mail.yahoo.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline References: <20050706025624.40637.qmail@web51612.mail.yahoo.com> Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Nothing works X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Nick Larsen List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 06 Jul 2005 03:28:08 -0000 Hi, I'm guessing you have the whole installation cd (not just the boot-only), so it sounds like you have told it to get the ports you want via FTP, rather than the CD. If you run /sbin/sysinstall and go to customize -> packages, then select CD/DVD. If the ports you want are not there, then exit sysinstall, make sure you have an internet connection (ping google.com or something) then run sysinstall again. Again go to customize -> packages, then select FTP. I usually use the main site, but if you cannot connect to it, try one close to where you live. This will give you all the ports on that server. Hope this help you a bit =3D) Regards, Nick (http://datanet.co.nz) On 7/6/05, Timothy McLouth wrote: > First i tried to make my own installation cd(s) from the instructions giv= en, they did not work so I e-mailed for answers got two different answers n= either of which worked so i bought the installation cd(s) ver 5.4...I downl= oaded the manual which is of little or no use due to variations in installa= tion methods described in the manual and what is actually shown on screen..= .the ports collection came with it...when i use the make install command it= tries to access the internet..then i get a message saying, it couldnt fetc= h,... try manually... error 1...what is the problem i would really like to = use this operating system...I also bought a book for $47 which is useless, = the title is misleading..."The design and implementation of FreeBSD" is of = no use unless you want to know what the processor is doing from start to en= d....what a waste of money......I am familiar with unix and still have my u= nix book from college, in addition i have a bachelors of science in compute= r information > systems...Im begining to believe that this is all BS unless i get some s= traight answers... >=20 > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around > http://mail.yahoo.com > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.o= rg" > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jul 6 03:39:32 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7893B16A41C for ; Wed, 6 Jul 2005 03:39:32 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from danny@ricin.com) Received: from smtpq3.home.nl (smtpq3.home.nl [213.51.128.198]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E94BA43D4C for ; Wed, 6 Jul 2005 03:39:31 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from danny@ricin.com) Received: from [213.51.128.134] (port=58252 helo=smtp3.home.nl) by smtpq3.home.nl with esmtp (Exim 4.30) id 1Dq0l0-0007bK-Tk; Wed, 06 Jul 2005 05:39:30 +0200 Received: from cp464173-a.dbsch1.nb.home.nl ([84.27.215.228]:52534 helo=desktop.homenet) by smtp3.home.nl with esmtp (Exim 4.30) id 1Dq0kx-0008Bm-V3; Wed, 06 Jul 2005 05:39:27 +0200 From: Danny Pansters To: m.hauber@mchsi.com Date: Wed, 6 Jul 2005 05:37:56 +0200 User-Agent: KMail/1.8 References: <200507060341.54839.danny@ricin.com> <200507052312.16318.m.hauber@mchsi.com> In-Reply-To: <200507052312.16318.m.hauber@mchsi.com> X-Face: "0Qv=,p:+]LvuqrtS4U\z3k"qN=.1]@=?utf-8?q?=258=3F=3BPoab=23v=27F=7E=0A=09!Wm=5Fe-=24=7EL=5D=3B?=>[c*L^Qoladj)x@mH}Bqz"vLO?Zdl}[@V@=?utf-8?q?U=3Fx3=23lI=3A=0A=09=24DN=7E!Hr?=@K`-mNv"zXm MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200507060537.56872.danny@ricin.com> X-AtHome-MailScanner-Information: Please contact support@home.nl for more information X-AtHome-MailScanner: Found to be clean Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Linux move to FreeBSD (Beastie vs Penguin) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 06 Jul 2005 03:39:32 -0000 On Wednesday 6 July 2005 05:12, Mike Hauber wrote: > On Tuesday 05 July 2005 09:41 pm, you wrote: > > I agree. They can think whatever they want. That's fine with > > me. But like I said, they have no right to impose their belives > > upon others and certainly not upon a group of people who > > provide something technical (like an OS) for free. They have no > > right to do that, they have every right to think what they want > > to think. So have I. Religion should be merely a private > > matter. And if so I have the highest respect for someone doing > > or not doing or undoing or redoing something out of religious > > belief. > > Someone asking what Chucky is about is imposing? Someone saying > that they won't use FreeBSD because of Chucky is imposing? I'm > not following... Sure, I think the person who originated this > thread is narrow-minded, but that doesn't mean't that he's > "imposing." No no no, what I mean is when people ate saying "you should do XYZ or change ABC". If they say "I don't like this I'll leave" well that's a shame but OK. All I'm arguing is that if people don't want to listen anyway about simple outside and perfectly explanable "icons" that are used and, my God, for merely humorous reasons even so, then if people still can't live with that perhaps they better leave instead of trying to break up the cummunity with their proclamation of everlasting truth. And it's my personal good righty to dislike and distrust organized religion because, if anyuthing, they always were personally hostile towards me. You know, if they want to take the upper hand in the public debate (and they may have the clout right now) at least they should stop wining about being the minority. I, with my evolution "theory" and with my Descartes, and with my Newton and with my Enlightenment are in jeaopardy. And you are either with science or you are not. > > And yes, most religious people (muslim, jew, christian, both > > catholic or reformed) *are* much more moderate than their > > leadership. So, when are they going to stand up? It's their > > movement, not mine. It's their sense of justice, not mine. Are > > they so diverted that they've lost beforehand? > > Look, I'm not trying to argue. I just don't see where all this is > coming from. I've never heard of Mark before, and doubt that > he's a religious leader (most leaders don't have the time to mess > with real operating systems)... (Of course, Mark... If you are, > then feel free to speak up.) I don't know any Mark. Don't ask me. > > As long as they don't I reckon they agree with their extreme > > leadership. > > ?See above? See above as well. > > And they surely insult and condemn me (a secular > > gay gay who has been in a 10 year happy and monogam > > relationship with one person so far thank you how many rednecks > > can say that? -- not implying you are one). > > I've re-read the thread just to make sure, but I don't think Mark > (or anyone else in this thread) mentioned anything that would > remotely seem condemning or insulting towards your personal life. Neither did I say so. Who's this Mark anyway? I'm saying that the fundies take delight in to attacking not only my personal but also my scioentific beliefs and I think it's about thime the "reality based" crowd started to say NO to that a bit harder. > I'm not sure where that came from so: > | grep pertinence > | > > So I find a little > > offensive here certainly not unappropriate. It's probably > > needed. The American Taliban is not all that far away. In fact > > they're quite powerful, more than the "moderates" seem to > > think. > > Hello? I think you've misunerstood me. Mayhaps I should reword > it (and I mean no offense, but perhaps a jogging of neurons would That's likely to get me going yeah. > help).... I think it is just as narrow-minded (no.... moreso by > far) for one to judge an entire group based on the actions/ideals > of a few than it is for one to say of his own account "I'm > hesitant to use FreeBSD because the mascot has two horns and > sneakers and therefore must be the Devil. Could someone tell me > more about that?" > Please. It almost seems like you're writing in regards to your > personal issues rather than using good ol' fashioned sense. You're just dying to pose me as a nutcase. Well, let me help you I'm already known as such. That don't mean you'd win a random discussion about some random superstition in human culture. I'm using "personal issues" (quite well positioning me open to attacks) as an example. And a very valid one because the agressive chriostian right likes to play as if they're under attack rather than attacking others (smaller groups) instead. Let's replace "my personal issues" (I have no personal issues BTW, I'm sure you're glad to hear that, but many many younger and also older people suffer greatly for this same thing) with whatever you seem to be defending and redo the discussion. That'll be interesting. > > Mike Cheers, Dan From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jul 6 03:42:30 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: questions@FreeBSD.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BFC1616A41F for ; Wed, 6 Jul 2005 03:42:30 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from WD@US-Webmasters.com) Received: from usw2.natel.net (2b.bz [209.152.117.190]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 50F2F43D5F for ; Wed, 6 Jul 2005 03:42:29 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from WD@US-Webmasters.com) Received: (qmail 43608 invoked from network); 6 Jul 2005 03:42:24 -0000 Received: from batv-01-025.dialup.netins.net (HELO Htebazile.US-Webmasters.com) (216.248.109.26) by us-webmasters.com with SMTP; 6 Jul 2005 03:42:24 -0000 Message-Id: <5.1.0.14.2.20050705223719.0b6db8f0@209.152.117.178> X-Sender: wd@209.152.117.178 X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Tue, 05 Jul 2005 22:41:35 -0500 To: Timothy McLouth From: "W. D." In-Reply-To: <20050706025624.40637.qmail@web51612.mail.yahoo.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: Nothing works X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 06 Jul 2005 03:42:30 -0000 At 21:56 7/5/2005, Timothy McLouth wrote: >First i tried to make my own installation cd(s) from the instructions= given,=20 >they did not work so I e-mailed for answers got two different answers=20 >neither of which worked so i bought the installation cd(s) ver 5.4...I=20 >downloaded the manual which is of little or no use due to variations in=20 >installation methods described in the manual and what is actually shown on= =20 >screen...the ports collection came with it...when i use the make install=20 >command it tries to access the internet..then i get a message saying, it=20 >couldnt fetch,... try manually... error 1...what is the problem i would=20 >really like to use this operating system...I also bought a book for $47=20 >which is useless, the title is misleading..."The design and implementation= =20 >of FreeBSD" is of no use unless you want to know what the processor is= doing=20 >from start to end....what a waste of money......I am familiar with unix and= =20 >still have my unix book from college, in addition i have a bachelors of=20 >science in computer information > systems...Im begining to believe that this is all BS unless i get some=20 >straight answers... Hey Tim, Don't give up yet! Sysinstall is a bit confusing. I had many of the same problems you are having. Consequently, I researched quite a bit and then wrote my own "HowTos": http://www.US-Webmasters.com/FreeBSD/Install/ Please let me know if this helps you. Start Here to Find It Fast!=99 ->= http://www.US-Webmasters.com/best-start-page/ $8.77 Domain Names -> http://domains.us-webmasters.com/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jul 6 03:56:59 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D0F3916A41C for ; Wed, 6 Jul 2005 03:56:59 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@m.gmane.org) Received: from ciao.gmane.org (main.gmane.org [80.91.229.2]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 56B8C43D55 for ; Wed, 6 Jul 2005 03:56:58 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@m.gmane.org) Received: from list by ciao.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.43) id 1Dq11t-0000FU-PY for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Wed, 06 Jul 2005 05:56:57 +0200 Received: from 69-171-193-20.sbtnvt.adelphia.net ([69.171.193.20]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Wed, 06 Jul 2005 05:56:57 +0200 Received: from scott by 69-171-193-20.sbtnvt.adelphia.net with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Wed, 06 Jul 2005 05:56:57 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: "Scott I. Remick" Date: Tue, 05 Jul 2005 23:56:47 -0400 Lines: 38 Message-ID: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: 69-171-193-20.sbtnvt.adelphia.net User-Agent: Pan/0.14.2.91 (As She Crawled Across the Table) X-Archive: encrypt Sender: news Subject: Weird "nice" behavior X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 06 Jul 2005 03:57:00 -0000 I'm seeing something strange/annoying tonight... maybe someone could help explain why it's happening. FreeBSD 5.4-RELEASE I'm trying to do a large local rsync in the background, while listening to streaming audio via RealPlayer and do other stuff. I have the rsync running at nice level 20 ("nice -20") which I've confirmed via ps: 1001 77010 1452 0 116 20 45056 44332 select SN+ p1 0:30.89 rsync -av - 1001 77011 77010 295 139 20 45048 44232 - RN+ p1 20:17.12 rsync -av - 1001 77548 77011 0 116 20 45200 44460 select SN+ p1 0:12.06 rsync -av - RealPlayer is running at normal nice (0): 1001 80675 80650 16 98 0 30004 12516 select S p2 0:22.69 /usr/local/lib/RealPlayer/realplay.bin 1001 80688 80675 0 96 0 30004 12516 select S p2 0:00.01 /usr/local/lib/RealPlayer/realplay.bin 1001 80689 80688 0 20 0 30004 12516 pause S p2 0:02.67 /usr/local/lib/RealPlayer/realplay.bin 1001 80692 80675 24 -8 0 13844 6772 piperd I p2 0:00.00 /usr/local/lib/RealPlayer/realplay.bin 1001 80693 80675 24 -8 0 13844 6772 piperd I p2 0:00.00 /usr/local/lib/RealPlayer/realplay.bin 1001 80694 80688 24 20 0 30004 12516 pause I p2 0:00.00 /usr/local/lib/RealPlayer/realplay.bin 1001 80695 80688 0 20 0 30004 12516 pause S p2 0:01.34 /usr/local/lib/RealPlayer/realplay.bin 1001 80696 80688 0 8 0 30004 12516 nanslp S p2 0:01.13 /usr/local/lib/RealPlayer/realplay.bin 1001 80765 80688 0 8 0 30004 12516 nanslp S p2 0:01.10 /usr/local/lib/RealPlayer/realplay.bin Not sure why it spawns so many processes, but whatever... Anyway, what's happening is despite rsync being nice 20, RealPlayer is incredibly choppy. Even if I'm not doing anything else on the system. Now here's the weirder part: if I DO do something, such as just scrolling a window, the audio stream stops being choppy. It's as if it takes some OTHER application claiming CPU cycles to get rsync to properly play "nice" and release up time, at which point RealPlayer gets the cycles it deserves. But for some reason, rsync with just RealPlayer on its own will not play "nice" and give up time to RealPlayer like it should since RealPlayer is running at 0 and rsync is running at 20. Can someone explain this behavior, and offer suggestions to fix it? Thanks! From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jul 6 05:06:31 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0BC2F16A41C for ; Wed, 6 Jul 2005 05:06:31 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from non_secure@yahoo.com) Received: from web53305.mail.yahoo.com (web53305.mail.yahoo.com [206.190.39.234]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 93DEC43D49 for ; Wed, 6 Jul 2005 05:06:30 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from non_secure@yahoo.com) Received: (qmail 24554 invoked by uid 60001); 6 Jul 2005 05:06:29 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=HmnLKGV7TWbOetKshcs07B4QkIAC2TtuKT8TnLtBYUf1MI/aaGs5seV/DDv/dh8JnsZQqltyfWzAccC0E5w81OZ6EYhtMFuxKPxF2M1AecA6Ksn3fhTcoWtPdGpdDHfBcOiTY78lzi0JtkE+9FBQgiu48iNGK7OTnvaong5GCeA= ; Message-ID: <20050706050629.24549.qmail@web53305.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [208.186.91.245] by web53305.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Tue, 05 Jul 2005 22:06:29 PDT Date: Tue, 5 Jul 2005 22:06:29 -0700 (PDT) From: Joe Schmoe To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Subject: toggle volume with scroll wheel in X on freeBSD ? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 06 Jul 2005 05:06:31 -0000 Hello, WHen I used to use windows, a very favorite app I used was: http://www.toggle.com/products/volume/ Very simple - if you held down control, then the mouse scroll wheel caused master volume to go up and down. It was terrific. Is there a way to do this in X on FreeBSD ? I would really like this functionality again...any thoughts ? __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jul 6 05:12:16 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0F81D16A41C for ; Wed, 6 Jul 2005 05:12:16 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) Received: from mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com (mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [65.75.192.90]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 90D5F43D45 for ; Wed, 6 Jul 2005 05:12:15 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) Received: from tedwin2k (nat-rtr.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [65.75.197.130]) by mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com (8.11.1/8.11.1) with SMTP id j665DRb00660; Tue, 5 Jul 2005 22:13:27 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) From: "Ted Mittelstaedt" To: "Matt Juszczak" , Date: Tue, 5 Jul 2005 22:12:12 -0700 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.6604 (9.0.2911.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1478 In-Reply-To: <20050705145350.W37501@neptune.atopia.net> Importance: Normal Cc: Subject: RE: Remote access to a user's mail spool X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 06 Jul 2005 05:12:16 -0000 >-----Original Message----- >From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org >[mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]On Behalf Of Matt Juszczak >Sent: Tuesday, July 05, 2005 11:57 AM >To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org >Subject: Remote access to a user's mail spool > > >Hi all, > >We're an ISP, and we are currently looking for a way for our >tech support >guys to access customer's email without having shell access to >the server, >or knowing the customer's password. > Matt, you need to load Webmin and try it out on one of your systems. Under System, Sendmail, there's an icon for User mailboxes that will allow this. You can lock webmin down so that your first level tech people can only do this and a few other administrative tasks, they cannot reboot the server, etc. >We'd like to install a custom webmail client on our private >internal LAN Already done, see webmin. Also unnecessary as webmin does SSL and has it's own webserver, no Apache needed. >webserver that would only show the user's inbox and the ability >to delete >the messages (couldn't read messages, etc.). The problem is >that we would >have to know the user's password in order for my PHP script to >go out and >fetch the mail. > No, not the case. The root user can do this. Webmin runs as root but has a complete internal security system setup. You add users and passwords into webmin that are just for webmin, not for the server. http://www.webmin.com Ted From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jul 6 05:16:22 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: questions@FreeBSD.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4818816A41C for ; Wed, 6 Jul 2005 05:16:22 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from kris@obsecurity.org) Received: from obsecurity.dyndns.org (CPE0050040655c8-CM00111ae02aac.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com [69.194.102.232]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0417E43D66 for ; Wed, 6 Jul 2005 05:16:21 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from kris@obsecurity.org) Received: by obsecurity.dyndns.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 0A6ED51432; Wed, 6 Jul 2005 01:16:21 -0400 (EDT) Date: Wed, 6 Jul 2005 01:16:20 -0400 From: Kris Kennaway To: Timothy McLouth Message-ID: <20050706051620.GA12071@xor.obsecurity.org> References: <20050706025624.40637.qmail@web51612.mail.yahoo.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="tThc/1wpZn/ma/RB" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20050706025624.40637.qmail@web51612.mail.yahoo.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Cc: questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: Nothing works X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 06 Jul 2005 05:16:22 -0000 --tThc/1wpZn/ma/RB Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline On Tue, Jul 05, 2005 at 07:56:23PM -0700, Timothy McLouth wrote: > I also bought a book for $47 which is useless, the title is > misleading..."The design and implementation of FreeBSD" is of no use > unless you want to know what the processor is doing from start to > end.... No, the title describes the contents exactly: it describes how the FreeBSD operating system is designed and implemented at the most basic level. This is not a book from which to learn FreeBSD, it is a book for developers who want to learn how to understand, modify and extend the operating system. Kris --tThc/1wpZn/ma/RB Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.1 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFCy2kkWry0BWjoQKURAnRuAKDx0jk0G2xrcW4E4dxvYvBPTt0PEwCfQFPI lLo0BV/Uus48R142OVLjFX4= =8K6x -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --tThc/1wpZn/ma/RB-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jul 6 05:26:56 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DCDD316A41C for ; Wed, 6 Jul 2005 05:26:56 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) Received: from mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com (mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [65.75.192.90]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 66AB443D48 for ; Wed, 6 Jul 2005 05:26:56 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) Received: from tedwin2k (nat-rtr.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [65.75.197.130]) by mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com (8.11.1/8.11.1) with SMTP id j665S8b00722; Tue, 5 Jul 2005 22:28:09 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) From: "Ted Mittelstaedt" To: , Date: Tue, 5 Jul 2005 22:26:53 -0700 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.6604 (9.0.2911.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1478 In-Reply-To: <20050705203458.82730.qmail@web30210.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Importance: Normal Cc: Subject: RE: Compaq Presario 6000 Install Failure FBSD 5.4 RELEASE X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 06 Jul 2005 05:26:57 -0000 Hi Roy, Proliant and Presario are two very different families! You might have to pull and replace that controller with a 3200, such as this: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=56091&item=5785129 537&rd=1 The ida code has been around a while. But before doing that try setting the BIOS up to define the operating system as Windows NT as I think the SCO Unix definition programs the raid card in some weird way to where FreeBSD can't access the boot blocks or some such. Also another thing that might help - run completely through the Compaq Smartstart CD and install a diagnostics partition. Do not have FreeBSD delete this, and setup with the Multiboot manager ( the second one down in the choices) Ted >-----Original Message----- >From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org >[mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]On Behalf Of RA Cohen >Sent: Tuesday, July 05, 2005 1:35 PM >To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org >Subject: Compaq Presario 6000 Install Failure FBSD 5.4 RELEASE > > >Hello all, > >I'm darned if I know what is going on with this -- I've >installed many version 4.X and 5.X systems on Proliant hardware >but this is the first failure (and the first Proliant 6000) -- > >Presario 6000 dual processor >Smart Raid 3100ES attached to 4 - 18 Gb 10,000 RPM UW SCSI >drives. Configured as one RAID 0 array containing one physical = >one logical drive and one RAID 5 array containing three physical >= one logical drive. Compaq utilities report no problem with >any of this, and the system is up to date with firmware. System >set up for a SCO Unix 7.1 install. > >As I don't really know how to export the boot messages, I can >tell you it fails at a line that appears maybe a dozen lines >after the md0: Preload image line: > >GEOM: Configure idad0s3 start 16384 length 37584896 end 37601279 > >So apparently FBSD is having some problems either with the >controller or possibly the drives themselves...? > >I've googled and searched the web to no avail. Older versions of >FBSD did not have the ida code, but 5.4 surely does...your help, >as always, is most appreciated. > >Thank you, >Roy > >__________________________________________________ >Do You Yahoo!? >Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around >http://mail.yahoo.com >_______________________________________________ >freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list >http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions >To unsubscribe, send any mail to >"freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jul 6 05:36:57 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BAE7516A41C for ; Wed, 6 Jul 2005 05:36:57 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from scrappy@hub.org) Received: from ganymede.hub.org (blk-224-176-51.eastlink.ca [24.224.176.51]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DEDD143D46 for ; Wed, 6 Jul 2005 05:36:56 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from scrappy@hub.org) Received: by ganymede.hub.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id D0B37346BC; Wed, 6 Jul 2005 02:36:56 -0300 (ADT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ganymede.hub.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CE2233444E for ; Wed, 6 Jul 2005 02:36:56 -0300 (ADT) Date: Wed, 6 Jul 2005 02:36:56 -0300 (ADT) From: "Marc G. Fournier" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20050706023451.D940@ganymede.hub.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Subject: 3ware 9500S-4LP with 4.x ... driver question ... X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 06 Jul 2005 05:36:57 -0000 I'm having some major problems with the above card under 4.x ... namely, I'm getting no errors reported *anywhere*, yet I'm gettting file system hangs, and the server has been in production for a good while now ... I'm looking at 3ware's web site, and the latest driver is 9.1.5.2, which, from the tar file, *looks* newer then what is in 4.x ... Is there a reason why I shouldn't upgrade/ known problems that others have identified? If not, what is involved? Just copied the files into /sys/dev/twa and rebuild the kernel? Thanks ... ---- Marc G. Fournier Hub.Org Networking Services (http://www.hub.org) Email: scrappy@hub.org Yahoo!: yscrappy ICQ: 7615664 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jul 6 06:01:52 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9CACB16A41C; Wed, 6 Jul 2005 06:01:52 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from julian@vicor.com) Received: from postoffice.vicor-nb.com (www.vicor.com [12.155.182.151]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5782243D5C; Wed, 6 Jul 2005 06:01:52 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from julian@vicor.com) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by postoffice.vicor-nb.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E3FF64CE900; Tue, 5 Jul 2005 23:01:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: from postoffice.vicor-nb.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (postoffice.vicor-nb.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 29128-09; Tue, 5 Jul 2005 23:01:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: from julian (julian.vicor-nb.com [208.206.78.97]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by postoffice.vicor-nb.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A141C4CE7FB; Tue, 5 Jul 2005 23:01:51 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 5 Jul 2005 23:01:51 -0700 (PDT) From: Julian Elischer To: Gregory Neil Shapiro In-Reply-To: <20050706015246.GB69456@gir.gshapiro.net> Message-ID: <20050705230007.H10268@julian.vicor-nb.com> References: <42CB29E4.8090203@vicor.com> <20050706015246.GB69456@gir.gshapiro.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at postoffice.vicor.com Cc: questions@freebsd.org, Julian Elischer Subject: Re: aaaargghh.. sendmail again X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 06 Jul 2005 06:01:52 -0000 On Tue, 5 Jul 2005, Gregory Neil Shapiro wrote: >> I am trying to alter the sendmail config on server.ficticious.net >> so that it rewrites the sender (both envelope and header) >> to be from mumble@registered.domain. >> >> the sendmail m4 config file now has: > > Your config plus the addition of FEATURE(allmasquerade) in case some of > the local addresses are Cc'ed on mail going out of your domain should do > the job. the documentatio suggests that allmasquerade willalso cause some of the recipients to be rewritten. I'm not sure if I want that. However I'll try it and see if it helps. > > However, since you are sending this question, it looks like that isn't > the case. > > What is the output of: > > # sendmail -Am -bt >> /tryflags es >> /try relay someuser@fictious.domain > > (where that address is replaced with the actual one that isn't working) > > Feel free to send the debug output from the above command to me directly > if you are worried about revealing confidential info to the mailing list > at large. > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jul 6 06:09:37 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6EA5216A41C for ; Wed, 6 Jul 2005 06:09:37 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ws@au.dyndns.ws) Received: from smtp1.adl2.internode.on.net (smtp1.adl2.internode.on.net [203.16.214.181]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D65C343D46 for ; Wed, 6 Jul 2005 06:09:36 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ws@au.dyndns.ws) Received: from lillith-iv.ovirt.dyndns.ws (ppp103-111.static.internode.on.net [150.101.103.111]) by smtp1.adl2.internode.on.net (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id j6669Xl0097458; Wed, 6 Jul 2005 15:39:34 +0930 (CST) X-Envelope-From: ws@au.dyndns.ws X-Envelope-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from [192.168.1.194] ([192.168.1.194]) by lillith-iv.ovirt.dyndns.ws (8.13.3/8.13.3) with ESMTP id j6669EVa079696; Wed, 6 Jul 2005 15:39:15 +0930 (CST) (envelope-from ws@au.dyndns.ws) From: Wayne Sierke To: "P.U.Kruppa" In-Reply-To: <20050706033032.E21919@www.pukruppa.net> References: <1120584597.57575.51.camel@au.dyndns.ws> <20050706033032.E21919@www.pukruppa.net> Content-Type: text/plain Date: Wed, 06 Jul 2005 15:39:14 +0930 Message-Id: <1120630154.57575.97.camel@au.dyndns.ws> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.2.2 FreeBSD GNOME Team Port Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.51 on 192.168.1.142 X-Scanned-By: SpamAssassin 3.000003(2005-04-27) X-Scanned-By: F-Prot X-Scanned-By: ClamAV X-Spam-Score: -2.82 () ALL_TRUSTED Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: squid bind to port 80 fails when started via squid.sh script X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 06 Jul 2005 06:09:37 -0000 On Wed, 2005-07-06 at 03:33 +0200, P.U.Kruppa wrote: > On Wed, 6 Jul 2005, Wayne Sierke wrote: > > > FreeBSD 5.4-RELEASE/squid-2.5.9_3 > > > > If I start squid via the script (as root), I get: > > > > /var/log/squid_cache.log: > > > > commBind: Cannot bind socket FD 11 to *:80: (13) Permission denied > > FATAL: Cannot open HTTP Port > > Squid Cache (Version 2.5.STABLE9): Terminated abnormally. > Did you set > squid_enable="YES" Yes. > squid_user="root" No, it didn't occur to me. I was assuming that the script would set it to the required user and I didn't see any documentation about it. However I can now see that it should probably be self-evident for even a semi-competent user. :) > squid_flags="-D" No. It's the default in the script. > in /etc/rc.conf ? > > Regards, > > Uli. Just so I can learn a bit more from this - has this script been designed like this because it is specifically safer to launch the squid executable as user 'squid'? Or is it just because it's the 'norm' to avoid running programs (from launch scripts) as root whenever possible? Thanks for your help, Wayne From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jul 6 06:40:40 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 173A216A41C for ; Wed, 6 Jul 2005 06:40:40 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from nlamprecht@gmail.com) Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.197]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C3F3743D45 for ; Wed, 6 Jul 2005 06:40:39 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from nlamprecht@gmail.com) Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id z6so546424nzd for ; Tue, 05 Jul 2005 23:40:39 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=p8L0Td9lt49E6iD2r4nVF4o0Lmj9yXm0uZhH8Yr99A80akefsnjH3jtxufXZirDr4uzj7jnesK3daCqrFWinReDO6Ohb7H9URMhqtwy39PDKlvbhzLnoNoKPsaqouampJ+E6//HfqsRXvVw1x7yEdJwEn5MkC5nuhZ9rBZb6v+g= Received: by 10.36.36.14 with SMTP id j14mr1547160nzj; Tue, 05 Jul 2005 23:34:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.105.17 with HTTP; Tue, 5 Jul 2005 23:34:25 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <7cbadc87050705233437c2206@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 6 Jul 2005 08:34:25 +0200 From: Nelis Lamprecht To: Lowell Gilbert In-Reply-To: <44zmt12dbh.fsf@be-well.ilk.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline References: <7cbadc870507050726369edadd@mail.gmail.com> <44zmt12dbh.fsf@be-well.ilk.org> Cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: Procedure for migrating user accounts to new system ? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Nelis Lamprecht List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 06 Jul 2005 06:40:40 -0000 On 05 Jul 2005 16:44:02 -0400, Lowell Gilbert wrote: > Nelis Lamprecht writes: >=20 > > What is the correct procedure to follow for migrating user accounts > > from one FreeBSD 4.x system to a new FreeBSD 4.x system ? We're > > sticking to 4.x due to legacy issues(Netware) in case I get asked. > > Didn't see answer to this in the FAQ's or Handbook and google answers > > seem sketchy. >=20 > The FAQ entry titled "How do I move my system over to my huge new > disk?" should be apropos. >=20 Unfortunately it doesn't. I specifically said "user accounts" because that's the only thing I want to move over to the new system. Using dump and restore wouldn't be applicable in this scenario as many things in the file systems are different. I was thinking more along the lines of copying over the password files and using pwd_mkdb to rebuild the db's but wasn't entirely sure about the whole process. For the home directories I'm just using rsync to copy over the data to the new system. Nelis From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jul 6 06:41:37 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3207116A41C for ; Wed, 6 Jul 2005 06:41:37 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from nlamprecht@gmail.com) Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.193]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DE4CC43D45 for ; Wed, 6 Jul 2005 06:41:36 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from nlamprecht@gmail.com) Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id z6so546472nzd for ; Tue, 05 Jul 2005 23:41:36 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=iG0tWysdtmu9RpKfK5gHVfqOQqlqj37M+G2c0maOVdksMuPCqE2ruoKcf5+TXBDzigOjYAiLL/7axkRopKhTxhhz+H8n9/BkU1ATsTvPSmjdju1IVOJrhK3HollDgj7FdK9SuCRnSXA1V/IqYhHBdxDf0+/dYvcUhH+U/kmgLuA= Received: by 10.36.81.10 with SMTP id e10mr253810nzb; Tue, 05 Jul 2005 23:41:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.105.17 with HTTP; Tue, 5 Jul 2005 23:41:36 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <7cbadc870507052341952fa1f@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 6 Jul 2005 08:41:36 +0200 From: Nelis Lamprecht To: Antony Mawer In-Reply-To: <42CAB412.2070301@mawer.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline References: <7cbadc870507050726369edadd@mail.gmail.com> <42CAB412.2070301@mawer.org> Cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: Procedure for migrating user accounts to new system ? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Nelis Lamprecht List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 06 Jul 2005 06:41:37 -0000 On 7/5/05, Antony Mawer wrote: > On 6/07/2005 12:26 AM, Nelis Lamprecht wrote: > > Hi, > > > > What is the correct procedure to follow for migrating user accounts > > from one FreeBSD 4.x system to a new FreeBSD 4.x system ? We're > > sticking to 4.x due to legacy issues(Netware) in case I get asked. > > Didn't see answer to this in the FAQ's or Handbook and google answers > > seem sketchy. >=20 > Hi there, >=20 > I noticed you mentioned "legacy issues - Netware" as your reason for > sticking with 4.x. Do you have any more information on why it's > necessary to stick with 4.x for this? We currently run a large number of > production systems on 4.x and rely heavily on Netware support; if it's > no longer functional in FreeBSD 5.x/6.x then that's a serious > show-stopper for us! >=20 Last time I tried using NWFS, NCP and friends on FreeBSD 5.x it didn't work. It was a known problem but after doing some googling I came across this: http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-current/2005-January/044838.html Unfortunately I need to know that it WILL work and not maybe. When I have time I will do some tests with FreeBSD 5.x again. Also, even if it did work I doubt it would be stable enough yet to put in a production enviroment. Nelis From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jul 6 06:43:14 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 20CFE16A41C for ; Wed, 6 Jul 2005 06:43:14 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) Received: from mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com (mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [65.75.192.90]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AC85143D45 for ; Wed, 6 Jul 2005 06:43:13 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) Received: from tedwin2k (nat-rtr.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [65.75.197.130]) by mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com (8.11.1/8.11.1) with SMTP id j666iLb01044; Tue, 5 Jul 2005 23:44:22 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) From: "Ted Mittelstaedt" To: "Danny Pansters" , Date: Tue, 5 Jul 2005 23:43:07 -0700 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.6604 (9.0.2911.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1478 In-Reply-To: <200507060341.54839.danny@ricin.com> Importance: Normal Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: RE: Linux move to FreeBSD (Beastie vs Penguin) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 06 Jul 2005 06:43:14 -0000 >-----Original Message----- >From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org >[mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]On Behalf Of Danny Pansters >Sent: Tuesday, July 05, 2005 6:42 PM >To: m.hauber@mchsi.com >Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org >Subject: Re: Linux move to FreeBSD (Beastie vs Penguin) > > >On Wednesday 6 July 2005 03:06, Mike Hauber wrote: >> On Tuesday 05 July 2005 08:29 pm, you wrote: >> > It's the imposing upon from religious groups (and well, let's >> > say that I don't think they're muslims) that I find not only >> > annoying but, yeah, downright dangerous. Throwing out 2-3 >> > centuries of enlightenment and scientific advance is not a good >> > idea. >> > >> > Greets, >> > >> > Dan >> >> Come on, now... Just because someone is a Christian, it doesn't >> mean he/she's a quack. _Every_ religion has their extremists. I >> don't think it's very cool to knock whole societies of faith >> (regardless of what faith it is) based on the whims of the few >> who are too narrow-minded to see past their glasses... >> >> Thanks, >> >> Mike > >I agree. They can think whatever they want. That's fine with >me. But like I >said, they have no right to impose their belives upon others >and certainly >not upon a group of people who provide something technical >(like an OS) for >free. They have no right to do that, they have every right to >think what they >want to think. So have I. Religion should be merely a private >matter. And if >so I have the highest respect for someone doing or not doing or >undoing or >redoing something out of religious belief. > >And yes, most religious people (muslim, jew, christian, both >catholic or >reformed) *are* much more moderate than their leadership. So, >when are they >going to stand up? It's their movement, not mine. It's their sense of >justice, not mine. Are they so diverted that they've lost beforehand? > Every political movement operates the same way (and if you don't think organized religion isn't political your crazy) it is a function of the movement. The extremists are the ones who are willing to put the money and effort into taking an idea all the way. Even Open Source. From the commercial software developers point of view Open Source was an extremist movement - this wasn't helped by the writings of the like of RMS, by the way. And there's no denying that the existence of Linux and FreeBSD and the host of open source applications has put many one-horse software development houses into bankruptcy. As a result of the extremists, today it's considered a moderate position for a commercial software development house to make it's source code available, under NDA, to it's customers. 20 years ago that would have been an extremist position. So you can see that ultimately the extremists have an affect on the movements they lead. >As long as they don't I reckon they agree with their extreme >leadership. And >they surely insult and condemn me (a secular gay gay who has >been in a 10 >year happy and monogam relationship with one person so far >thank you how many >rednecks can say that? -- not implying you are one). So I find a little >offensive here certainly not unappropriate. It's probably needed. The >American Taliban is not all that far away. In fact they're >quite powerful, >more than the "moderates" seem to think. > 30 years ago you didn't see people talking about being gay in normal conversation. Today you do. Sure there are the right-wing extremists who hate gays. But the moderate center has moved away from them and toward the extremist gays who were shoving their gayness in your face all the time. The extremist anti-gays know this and are hoping to move the center back to them. But I don't see any evidence this is occuring, and plenty of evidence that it's going in the opposite direction. Take the gay marriage thing. The entire gay marriage campaign wasn't about actually getting gay marriage laws on the books. It was about getting secular domestic arraingement laws on the books so that gays in long term relationships wern't shut out of things like being able to have power of attourney and such if their partner got sick and unable to care for him or her self. They tried for years to get moderate versions of those laws on the books and failed. So they then tried the extreme version - gay marriage - and while that got shot down, the existence of those campaigns had the effect of moving the center to make the domestic arraingement laws now acceptable. That is why they are passing now. 30 years from now they will probably try for bestiality marriage laws to get gay marriage laws passed. It's the way of things. Ted From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jul 6 07:08:01 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2A7BC16A41C for ; Wed, 6 Jul 2005 07:08:01 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from Thorsten.Mein@hts.com) Received: from mailde02.htsit.net (mailde02.htsit.net [195.212.94.37]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D532543D49 for ; Wed, 6 Jul 2005 07:08:00 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from Thorsten.Mein@hts.com) To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: From: Thorsten.Mein@hts.com Date: Wed, 6 Jul 2005 09:07:55 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Subject: unexpected RCODE (SERVFAIL) resolving X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 06 Jul 2005 07:08:01 -0000 Hi all, we are running FreeBSD 5.4 and Bind 9.3.0 When i try to access www.citrx.com i get the following error: named[443]: unexpected RCODE (SERVFAIL) resolving 'www.gslb.citrix.com/AAAA/IN': 12.8.192.28#53 I make a lot of test and think Citrix is useing MS DNS server. From my point of view there is a bug in MS DNS server, because i setup a test MS DNS server and make some test within our the we see the same error. When i use BIND as DNS everythink work fine. Is one of you know this error or can help to make it sure that there is a bug on MS site ? 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Ad-Media Rep admin@funnytaf.com http://www.funnytaf.com/free/coregs.php From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jul 6 08:42:51 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1DA2E16A41C for ; Wed, 6 Jul 2005 08:42:51 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from andreas@wideroe.net) Received: from malibu.wideroe.net (malibu.wideroe.net [193.71.196.56]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 93AAF43D48 for ; Wed, 6 Jul 2005 08:42:50 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from andreas@wideroe.net) Received: from hangloose.wideroe.net (195.80-202-145.nextgentel.com [80.202.145.195]) (authenticated bits=0) by malibu.wideroe.net (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id j668gjHs058881 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-DSS-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NO) for ; Wed, 6 Jul 2005 10:42:46 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from andreas@wideroe.net) Message-Id: <6.1.2.0.2.20050706100244.04363248@malibu.wideroe.net> X-Sender: awand@malibu.wideroe.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 6.1.2.0 Date: Wed, 06 Jul 2005 10:42:40 +0200 To: questions@freebsd.org From: Andreas =?iso-8859-1?Q?Wider=F8e?= Andersen In-Reply-To: <20050705193558.GJ96826@osiris.chen.org.nz> References: <6.1.2.0.2.20050705171023.038c2ec0@malibu.wideroe.net> <20050705171944.7799f047.albi@scii.nl> <6.1.2.0.2.20050705174116.0be13a38@malibu.wideroe.net> <20050705193558.GJ96826@osiris.chen.org.nz> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.1 required=7.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_00, RCVD_IN_NJABL_DUL,RCVD_IN_SORBS_DUL autolearn=no version=3.0.2 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.0.2 (2004-11-16) on malibu.wideroe.net Cc: Subject: Re: Trouble mounting Zip drive (solved!) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 06 Jul 2005 08:42:51 -0000 >[snip] Hi and thanks for all help! Seems like I have found a sollution (thanks to this excellent tutorial http://freebsd.peon.net/tutorials/10/ and the help from the mailinglist members): One thing: I still don't understand how I should know that the device is rda0 or rda0c or even da0 sometimes in the example below. If someone could explain I'd be happy :-) # dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/rda0 count=2 2+0 records in 2+0 records out 1024 bytes transferred in 0.040405 secs (25343 bytes/sec) # disklabel -Brw da0 auto # newfs /dev/rda0c Warning: Block size restricts cylinders per group to 97. /dev/rda0c: 196608 sectors in 48 cylinders of 1 tracks, 4096 sectors 96.0MB in 1 cyl groups (97 c/g, 194.00MB/g, 12288 i/g) super-block backups (for fsck -b #) at: 32 # mount /dev/da0c /zip # df -h Filesystem Size Used Avail Capacity Mounted on /dev/ad0s1a 126M 35M 81M 30% / /dev/ad0s1f 252M 22K 232M 0% /tmp /dev/ad0s1g 5.1G 760M 3.9G 16% /usr /dev/ad0s1e 252M 2.9M 229M 1% /var /dev/ad1s1e 3.0G 405M 2.3G 14% /backup procfs 4.0K 4.0K 0B 100% /proc /dev/da0c 94M 2.0K 87M 0% /zip Best regards, Andreas --- Andreas Wideroe Andersen Mobile: (+47) 90 92 61 21 http://www.filmshooting.com Norsk Smalfilm AS http://www.smalfilm.no From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jul 6 09:22:55 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C271416A41C for ; Wed, 6 Jul 2005 09:22:55 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from bsd@todoo.biz) Received: from newmail.rmm.fr (newmail.rmm.fr [195.115.46.198]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 33AB143D45 for ; Wed, 6 Jul 2005 09:22:54 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from bsd@todoo.biz) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by newmail.rmm.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4645A29A07 for ; Wed, 6 Jul 2005 11:22:53 +0200 (CEST) Received: from newmail.rmm.fr ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (newmail.rmm.fr [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 81537-03 for ; Wed, 6 Jul 2005 11:22:51 +0200 (CEST) Received: from [172.30.1.200] (unknown [195.115.54.138]) (using TLSv1 with cipher RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by newmail.rmm.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id C0A8E29709 for ; Wed, 6 Jul 2005 11:22:51 +0200 (CEST) Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v730) Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <01FF71F2-222E-4E8F-9888-7B963F984F72@todoo.biz> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; delsp=yes; format=flowed To: Liste FreeBSD From: bsd Date: Wed, 6 Jul 2005 11:22:44 +0200 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.730) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at rmm.fr Subject: Problem updating apache 2.1.x via port X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 06 Jul 2005 09:22:55 -0000 I have a problem updating my apache port. Compile seem to be ok and then install goes wrong. Any idea how to fix that ? > =3D=3D=3D> Installing for apache-2.1.4 > =3D=3D=3D> apache-2.1.4 depends on file: = /usr/local/lib/libcrypto.so.3 =20 > - found > =3D=3D=3D> apache-2.1.4 depends on file: /usr/local/bin/perl5.8.7 - = found > =3D=3D=3D> apache-2.1.4 depends on shared library: expat.5 - found > =3D=3D=3D> apache-2.1.4 depends on shared library: iconv.3 - found > =3D=3D=3D> Generating temporary packing list > =3D=3D=3D> Checking if www/apache21 already installed > Making install in srclib > Making install in pcre > Making install in os > Making install in unix > Making install in server > Making install in mpm > Making install in prefork > find: /usr/local/include/apr-1/apr.h: No such file or directory > find: /usr/local/include/apr-1/apr_allocator.h: No such file or =20 > directory > find: /usr/local/include/apr-1/apr_anylock.h: No such file or =20 > directory > find: /usr/local/include/apr-1/apr_atomic.h: No such file or directory > find: /usr/local/include/apr-1/apr_base64.h: No such file or directory > find: /usr/local/include/apr-1/apr_buckets.h: No such file or =20 > directory > find: /usr/local/include/apr-1/apr_date.h: No such file or directory > find: /usr/local/include/apr-1/apr_dbm.h: No such file or directory > find: /usr/local/include/apr-1/apr_dso.h: No such file or directory > find: /usr/local/include/apr-1/apr_env.h: No such file or directory > find: /usr/local/include/apr-1/apr_errno.h: No such file or directory > find: /usr/local/include/apr-1/apr_file_info.h: No such file or =20 > directory > find: /usr/local/include/apr-1/apr_file_io.h: No such file or =20 > directory > find: /usr/local/include/apr-1/apr_fnmatch.h: No such file or =20 > directory > find: /usr/local/include/apr-1/apr_general.h: No such file or =20 > directory > find: /usr/local/include/apr-1/apr_getopt.h: No such file or directory > find: /usr/local/include/apr-1/apr_global_mutex.h: No such file or =20 > directory > find: /usr/local/include/apr-1/apr_hash.h: No such file or directory > find: /usr/local/include/apr-1/apr_hooks.h: No such file or directory > find: /usr/local/include/apr-1/apr_inherit.h: No such file or =20 > directory > find: /usr/local/include/apr-1/apr_ldap.h: No such file or directory > find: /usr/local/include/apr-1/apr_ldap_init.h: No such file or =20 > directory > find: /usr/local/include/apr-1/apr_ldap_option.h: No such file or =20 > directory > find: /usr/local/include/apr-1/apr_ldap_url.h: No such file or =20 > directory > find: /usr/local/include/apr-1/apr_lib.h: No such file or directory > find: /usr/local/include/apr-1/apr_md4.h: No such file or directory > find: /usr/local/include/apr-1/apr_md5.h: No such file or directory > find: /usr/local/include/apr-1/apr_mmap.h: No such file or directory > find: /usr/local/include/apr-1/apr_network_io.h: No such file or =20 > directory > find: /usr/local/include/apr-1/apr_optional.h: No such file or =20 > directory > find: /usr/local/include/apr-1/apr_optional_hooks.h: No such file =20 > or directory > find: /usr/local/include/apr-1/apr_poll.h: No such file or directory > find: /usr/local/include/apr-1/apr_pools.h: No such file or directory > find: /usr/local/include/apr-1/apr_portable.h: No such file or =20 > directory > find: /usr/local/include/apr-1/apr_proc_mutex.h: No such file or =20 > directory > find: /usr/local/include/apr-1/apr_queue.h: No such file or directory > find: /usr/local/include/apr-1/apr_random.h: No such file or directory > find: /usr/local/include/apr-1/apr_reslist.h: No such file or =20 > directory > find: /usr/local/include/apr-1/apr_ring.h: No such file or directory > find: /usr/local/include/apr-1/apr_rmm.h: No such file or directory > find: /usr/local/include/apr-1/apr_sdbm.h: No such file or directory > find: /usr/local/include/apr-1/apr_sha1.h: No such file or directory > find: /usr/local/include/apr-1/apr_shm.h: No such file or directory > find: /usr/local/include/apr-1/apr_signal.h: No such file or directory > find: /usr/local/include/apr-1/apr_strings.h: No such file or =20 > directory > find: /usr/local/include/apr-1/apr_strmatch.h: No such file or =20 > directory > find: /usr/local/include/apr-1/apr_support.h: No such file or =20 > directory > find: /usr/local/include/apr-1/apr_tables.h: No such file or directory > find: /usr/local/include/apr-1/apr_thread_cond.h: No such file or =20 > directory > find: /usr/local/include/apr-1/apr_thread_mutex.h: No such file or =20 > directory > find: /usr/local/include/apr-1/apr_thread_rwlock.h: No such file or =20= > directory > find: /usr/local/include/apr-1/apr_time.h: No such file or directory > find: /usr/local/include/apr-1/apr_uri.h: No such file or directory > find: /usr/local/include/apr-1/apr_user.h: No such file or directory > find: /usr/local/include/apr-1/apr_uuid.h: No such file or directory > find: /usr/local/include/apr-1/apr_version.h: No such file or =20 > directory > find: /usr/local/include/apr-1/apr_want.h: No such file or directory > find: /usr/local/include/apr-1/apr_xlate.h: No such file or directory > find: /usr/local/include/apr-1/apr_xml.h: No such file or directory > find: /usr/local/include/apr-1/apu.h: No such file or directory > find: /usr/local/include/apr-1/apu_version.h: No such file or =20 > directory > find: /usr/local/include/apr-1/apu_want.h: No such file or directory > *** Error code 1 > > Stop in /usr/ports/www/apache21/work/httpd-2.1.4-alpha/server. > *** Error code 1 > > Stop in /usr/ports/www/apache21/work/httpd-2.1.4-alpha/server. > *** Error code 1 > > Stop in /usr/ports/www/apache21/work/httpd-2.1.4-alpha. > *** Error code 1 > > Stop in /usr/ports/www/apache21. > *** Error code 1 > > Stop in /usr/ports/www/apache21. > ** Command failed [exit code 1]: /usr/bin/script -qa /tmp/=20 > portupgrade50638.44 make reinstall > egrep: /var/db/pkg/apache-2.1.3/+CONTENTS: No such file or directory > ---> Restoring the old version 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Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Trouble mounting Zip drive (solved!) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: questions@freebsd.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 06 Jul 2005 09:44:15 -0000 * Andreas Wider=F8e Andersen [2005-07-06 10:42 +0200] > Hi and thanks for all help! > =20 > Seems like I have found a sollution (thanks to this excellent tutorial > http://freebsd.peon.net/tutorials/10/ and the help from the mailinglist > members): I didn't follow this thread from the beginning, so I'm not sure if this=20 was ever an issue, or if it has been discussed. But when I used ZIP disks= =20 some two to three years ago, I had some issues with password-protected and= =20 read-only disks. I found a solution for that sending raw commands to the=20 device using camcontrol. If you're interested, I could try to dig up my=20 notes on the matter. At that time there was no command line utilities I could find that would=20 set these bits on the disks. Regadrs,=20 Svein Halvor From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jul 6 10:29:57 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 514FD16A41C for ; Wed, 6 Jul 2005 10:29:57 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from swygue@gmail.com) Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.194]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C1ADE43D48 for ; Wed, 6 Jul 2005 10:29:56 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from swygue@gmail.com) Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id i21so1056888wra for ; Wed, 06 Jul 2005 03:29:56 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; b=moVvpq4DL06jZlXJzTOSZWJ3jrwKaK7bi/BQXWJ3tBewdHt8z5p2P08phIpzWrcBZwvsA190A9ZzlWVLaP65A5AyitqtA9Po5EPrghx++ARNBVwZG1CABP4ueG7rfBKYXRbKpmBEsu7EZXPgdM5r+E7+sp3fXhZO2vtuTnJPc2M= Received: by 10.54.5.47 with SMTP id 47mr309843wre; Wed, 06 Jul 2005 03:29:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.30.31 with HTTP; Wed, 6 Jul 2005 03:29:55 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Wed, 6 Jul 2005 10:29:56 +0000 From: swygue To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline Subject: Building Xorg CVS, FcMatchFont, FcMatchPattern error X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: swygue+reply@gmail.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 06 Jul 2005 10:29:57 -0000 I am trying to install Xorg from CVS. I created /usr/Xorg6.8.3 and linked it to /usr/X11R6. Then I went to Xorg cvs directory on my computer and issued: # make World Then I got this error: *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/src/cvs/xc/lib/Xft1. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/src/cvs/xc/lib. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/src/cvs/xc. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/src/cvs/xc. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/src/cvs/xc. I verified that /usr/X11R6/include/fontconfig/fontconfig.h exists.=20 Here is the entire error message: In file included from xftcfg.c:28: xftint.h:29:35: fontconfig/fontconfig.h: No such file or directory In file included from XftFreetype.h:28, from xftint.h:31, from xftcfg.c:28: Xft.h:89: error: syntax error before "XftType" Xft.h:89: warning: type defaults to `int' in declaration of `XftType' Xft.h:89: error: ISO C forbids data definition with no type or storage clas= s Xft.h:91: error: syntax error before "XftMatrix" Xft.h:91: warning: type defaults to `int' in declaration of `XftMatrix' Xft.h:91: error: ISO C forbids data definition with no type or storage clas= s Xft.h:95: error: syntax error before "XftResult" Xft.h:95: warning: type defaults to `int' in declaration of `XftResult' Xft.h:95: error: ISO C forbids data definition with no type or storage clas= s Xft.h:109: error: syntax error before "XftValue" Xft.h:109: warning: type defaults to `int' in declaration of `XftValue' Xft.h:109: error: ISO C forbids data definition with no type or storage cla= ss Xft.h:112: error: syntax error before "XftPattern" Xft.h:112: warning: type defaults to `int' in declaration of `XftPattern' Xft.h:112: error: ISO C forbids data definition with no type or storage cla= ss Xft.h:114: error: syntax error before "XftFontSet" Xft.h:114: warning: type defaults to `int' in declaration of `XftFontSet' Xft.h:114: error: ISO C forbids data definition with no type or storage cla= ss Xft.h:124: error: syntax error before "XftPattern" Xft.h:142: error: syntax error before "XftObjectSet" Xft.h:142: warning: type defaults to `int' in declaration of `XftObjectSet' Xft.h:142: error: ISO C forbids data definition with no type or storage cla= ss Xft.h:148: error: syntax error before '*' token Xft.h:148: warning: function declaration isn't a prototype Xft.h:175: error: syntax error before "v" Xft.h:175: warning: function declaration isn't a prototype Xft.h:178: error: syntax error before '*' token Xft.h:178: warning: function declaration isn't a prototype Xft.h:181: error: syntax error before '*' token Xft.h:181: warning: function declaration isn't a prototype Xft.h:189: error: syntax error before "XftPattern" Xft.h:189: warning: function declaration isn't a prototype Xft.h:192: error: syntax error before "XftPattern" Xft.h:192: warning: function declaration isn't a prototype Xft.h:293: error: syntax error before '*' token Xft.h:294: error: syntax error before "XftPattern" Xft.h:294: warning: type defaults to `int' in declaration of `XftFontMatch' Xft.h:294: warning: function declaration isn't a prototype Xft.h:294: error: ISO C forbids data definition with no type or storage cla= ss Xft.h:297: error: syntax error before "XftPattern" Xft.h:297: warning: function declaration isn't a prototype Xft.h:317: error: syntax error before '*' token Xft.h:318: warning: type defaults to `int' in declaration of `XftFontSetCre= ate' Xft.h:318: error: ISO C forbids data definition with no type or storage cla= ss Xft.h:321: error: syntax error before '*' token Xft.h:321: warning: function declaration isn't a prototype Xft.h:324: error: syntax error before '*' token Xft.h:324: warning: function declaration isn't a prototype Xft.h:338: error: syntax error before '*' token Xft.h:339: warning: type defaults to `int' in declaration of `XftObjectSetCreate' Xft.h:339: error: ISO C forbids data definition with no type or storage cla= ss Xft.h:342: error: syntax error before '*' token Xft.h:342: warning: function declaration isn't a prototype Xft.h:345: error: syntax error before '*' token Xft.h:345: warning: function declaration isn't a prototype Xft.h:347: error: syntax error before '*' token Xft.h:348: warning: type defaults to `int' in declaration of `XftObjectSetVaBuild' Xft.h:348: error: ISO C forbids data definition with no type or storage cla= ss Xft.h:350: error: syntax error before '*' token Xft.h:351: warning: type defaults to `int' in declaration of `XftObjectSetB= uild' Xft.h:351: error: ISO C forbids data definition with no type or storage cla= ss Xft.h:353: error: syntax error before '*' token Xft.h:354: error: syntax error before '*' token Xft.h:357: warning: type defaults to `int' in declaration of `XftListFontSe= ts' Xft.h:357: warning: function declaration isn't a prototype Xft.h:357: error: ISO C forbids data definition with no type or storage cla= ss Xft.h:359: error: syntax error before '*' token Xft.h:362: error: syntax error before "XftPattern" Xft.h:363: warning: type defaults to `int' in declaration of `XftListFontsPatternObjects' Xft.h:363: warning: function declaration isn't a prototype Xft.h:363: error: ISO C forbids data definition with no type or storage cla= ss Xft.h:365: error: syntax error before '*' token Xft.h:368: warning: type defaults to `int' in declaration of `XftListFonts' Xft.h:368: error: ISO C forbids data definition with no type or storage cla= ss Xft.h:371: error: syntax error before '*' token Xft.h:372: error: syntax error before '*' token Xft.h:375: warning: type defaults to `int' in declaration of `XftFontSetMat= ch' Xft.h:375: warning: function declaration isn't a prototype Xft.h:375: error: ISO C forbids data definition with no type or storage cla= ss Xft.h:379: error: syntax error before '*' token Xft.h:379: warning: type defaults to `int' in declaration of `XftMatrixEqua= l' Xft.h:379: warning: function declaration isn't a prototype Xft.h:382: error: syntax error before '*' token Xft.h:382: warning: function declaration isn't a prototype Xft.h:385: error: syntax error before '*' token Xft.h:385: warning: function declaration isn't a prototype Xft.h:388: error: syntax error before '*' token Xft.h:388: warning: function declaration isn't a prototype Xft.h:391: error: syntax error before '*' token Xft.h:391: warning: function declaration isn't a prototype Xft.h:394: error: syntax error before '*' token Xft.h:395: warning: type defaults to `int' in declaration of `XftNameParse' Xft.h:395: error: ISO C forbids data definition with no type or storage cla= ss Xft.h:398: error: syntax error before '*' token Xft.h:398: warning: function declaration isn't a prototype Xft.h:401: error: syntax error before '*' token Xft.h:402: warning: type defaults to `int' in declaration of `XftPatternCre= ate' Xft.h:402: error: ISO C forbids data definition with no type or storage cla= ss Xft.h:404: error: syntax error before '*' token Xft.h:405: error: syntax error before '*' token Xft.h:405: warning: type defaults to `int' in declaration of `XftPatternDuplicate' Xft.h:405: warning: function declaration isn't a prototype Xft.h:405: error: ISO C forbids data definition with no type or storage cla= ss Xft.h:408: error: syntax error before "v" Xft.h:408: warning: function declaration isn't a prototype Xft.h:411: error: syntax error before '*' token Xft.h:411: warning: function declaration isn't a prototype Xft.h:414: error: syntax error before '*' token Xft.h:414: warning: function declaration isn't a prototype Xft.h:417: error: syntax error before "XftPatternGet" Xft.h:417: error: syntax error before '*' token Xft.h:417: warning: type defaults to `int' in declaration of `XftPatternGet= ' Xft.h:417: warning: function declaration isn't a prototype Xft.h:417: error: ISO C forbids data definition with no type or storage cla= ss Xft.h:420: error: syntax error before '*' token Xft.h:420: warning: function declaration isn't a prototype Xft.h:423: error: syntax error before '*' token Xft.h:423: warning: function declaration isn't a prototype Xft.h:426: error: syntax error before '*' token Xft.h:426: warning: function declaration isn't a prototype Xft.h:429: error: syntax error before '*' token Xft.h:429: warning: function declaration isn't a prototype Xft.h:432: error: syntax error before '*' token Xft.h:432: warning: function declaration isn't a prototype Xft.h:435: error: syntax error before '*' token Xft.h:435: warning: function declaration isn't a prototype Xft.h:438: error: syntax error before "XftPatternGetInteger" Xft.h:438: error: syntax error before '*' token Xft.h:438: warning: type defaults to `int' in declaration of `XftPatternGetInteger' Xft.h:438: warning: function declaration isn't a prototype Xft.h:438: error: ISO C forbids data definition with no type or storage cla= ss Xft.h:441: error: syntax error before "XftPatternGetDouble" Xft.h:441: error: syntax error before '*' token Xft.h:441: warning: type defaults to `int' in declaration of `XftPatternGetDouble' Xft.h:441: warning: function declaration isn't a prototype Xft.h:441: error: ISO C forbids data definition with no type or storage cla= ss Xft.h:444: error: syntax error before "XftPatternGetString" Xft.h:444: error: syntax error before '*' token Xft.h:444: warning: type defaults to `int' in declaration of `XftPatternGetString' Xft.h:444: warning: function declaration isn't a prototype Xft.h:444: error: ISO C forbids data definition with no type or storage cla= ss Xft.h:447: error: syntax error before "XftPatternGetMatrix" Xft.h:447: error: syntax error before '*' token Xft.h:447: warning: type defaults to `int' in declaration of `XftPatternGetMatrix' Xft.h:447: warning: function declaration isn't a prototype Xft.h:447: error: ISO C forbids data definition with no type or storage cla= ss Xft.h:450: error: syntax error before "XftPatternGetBool" Xft.h:450: error: syntax error before '*' token Xft.h:450: warning: type defaults to `int' in declaration of `XftPatternGet= Bool' Xft.h:450: warning: function declaration isn't a prototype Xft.h:450: error: ISO C forbids data definition with no type or storage cla= ss Xft.h:452: error: syntax error before '*' token Xft.h:453: error: syntax error before '*' token Xft.h:453: warning: type defaults to `int' in declaration of `XftPatternVaB= uild' Xft.h:453: warning: function declaration isn't a prototype Xft.h:453: error: ISO C forbids data definition with no type or storage cla= ss Xft.h:455: error: syntax error before '*' token Xft.h:456: error: syntax error before '*' token Xft.h:456: warning: type defaults to `int' in declaration of `XftPatternBui= ld' Xft.h:456: warning: function declaration isn't a prototype Xft.h:456: error: ISO C forbids data definition with no type or storage cla= ss Xft.h:475: error: syntax error before '*' token Xft.h:476: warning: type defaults to `int' in declaration of `XftXlfdParse' Xft.h:476: error: ISO C forbids data definition with no type or storage cla= ss Xft.h:479: error: syntax error before "XftPattern" Xft.h:479: warning: function declaration isn't a prototype In file included from xftint.h:31, from xftcfg.c:28: XftFreetype.h:29:22: ft2build.h: No such file or directory XftFreetype.h:30:10: #include expects "FILENAME" or In file included from xftint.h:31, from xftcfg.c:28: XftFreetype.h:35: error: syntax error before "_XftFTlibrary" XftFreetype.h:35: warning: type defaults to `int' in declaration of `_XftFTlibrary' XftFreetype.h:35: error: ISO C forbids data definition with no type or storage class XftFreetype.h:38: error: syntax error before "FT_Face" XftFreetype.h:42: error: syntax error before "FT_F26Dot6" XftFreetype.h:55: error: syntax error before "FT_Matrix" XftFreetype.h:64: error: syntax error before '*' token XftFreetype.h:64: warning: function declaration isn't a prototype XftFreetype.h:67: error: syntax error before '*' token XftFreetype.h:67: warning: function declaration isn't a prototype XftFreetype.h:70: error: syntax error before '*' token XftFreetype.h:71: warning: type defaults to `int' in declaration of `XftFreeTypeQuery' XftFreetype.h:71: error: ISO C forbids data definition with no type or storage class XftFreetype.h:74: error: syntax error before "face" XftFreetype.h:74: warning: function declaration isn't a prototype XftFreetype.h:77: error: syntax error before "XftPattern" XftFreetype.h:77: warning: function declaration isn't a prototype In file included from xftcfg.c:28: xftint.h:38: error: syntax error before "XftValue" xftint.h:38: warning: function declaration isn't a prototype xftint.h:78: error: syntax error before "XftPattern" xftint.h:84: error: syntax error before '*' token xftint.h:84: warning: type defaults to `int' in declaration of `_XftGlobalFontSet' xftint.h:84: error: ISO C forbids data definition with no type or storage c= lass xftint.h:87: error: syntax error before '*' token xftint.h:87: warning: type defaults to `int' in declaration of `_XftFontSet= ' xftint.h:87: error: ISO C forbids data definition with no type or storage c= lass xftint.h:95: error: syntax error before '*' token xftint.h:95: warning: type defaults to `int' in declaration of `FcPatternFindElt' xftint.h:95: warning: function declaration isn't a prototype xftint.h:98: error: syntax error before '*' token xftint.h:98: warning: function declaration isn't a prototype xftint.h:138: error: syntax error before "XftMatrix" xftint.h:156: error: syntax error before "XftValue" xftint.h:250: error: syntax error before '*' token xftint.h:250: warning: function declaration isn't a prototype xftint.h:253: error: syntax error before '*' token xftint.h:253: warning: function declaration isn't a prototype xftint.h:269: error: syntax error before "m" xftint.h:271: warning: function declaration isn't a prototype xftint.h:358: error: syntax error before '*' token xftint.h:359: warning: type defaults to `int' in declaration of `XftDisplayGetFontSet' xftint.h:359: error: ISO C forbids data definition with no type or storage = class xftint.h:393: error: syntax error before "XftValue" xftint.h:393: warning: function declaration isn't a prototype xftint.h:405: error: syntax error before '*' token xftint.h:405: warning: type defaults to `int' in declaration of `XftExprCreateMatrix' xftint.h:405: warning: function declaration isn't a prototype xftint.h:445: error: syntax error before "v1" xftint.h:446: warning: function declaration isn't a prototype xftint.h:449: error: syntax error before '*' token xftint.h:451: warning: function declaration isn't a prototype xftint.h:454: error: syntax error before '*' token xftint.h:456: warning: function declaration isn't a prototype xftint.h:468: error: syntax error before '*' token xftint.h:468: warning: function declaration isn't a prototype xftint.h:471: error: syntax error before '*' token xftint.h:471: warning: function declaration isn't a prototype xftint.h:476: error: syntax error before '*' token xftint.h:477: error: syntax error before '*' token xftint.h:477: warning: type defaults to `int' in declaration of `_XftSaveMa= trix' xftint.h:477: warning: function declaration isn't a prototype xftint.h:477: error: ISO C forbids data definition with no type or storage = class xftint.h:506: error: syntax error before '*' token xftint.h:506: warning: function declaration isn't a prototype xftcfg.c:31: error: syntax error before '*' token xftcfg.c:32: warning: function declaration isn't a prototype xftcfg.c: In function `XftConfigSubstitute': xftcfg.c:33: warning: implicit declaration of function `FcConfigSubstitute' xftcfg.c:33: warning: nested extern declaration of `FcConfigSubstitute' xftcfg.c:33: error: `p' undeclared (first use in this function) xftcfg.c:33: error: (Each undeclared identifier is reported only once xftcfg.c:33: error: for each function it appears in.) xftcfg.c:33: error: `FcMatchPattern' undeclared (first use in this function= ) xftcfg.c:34: error: `FcMatchFont' undeclared (first use in this function) *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/src/cvs/xc/lib/Xft1. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/src/cvs/xc/lib. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/src/cvs/xc. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/src/cvs/xc. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/src/cvs/xc. --=20 Restoring the old version >=20 >=20 > ________________________________________________ > =AB?=BB=A5=AB?=BB=A7=AB?=BB=A5=AB?=BB=A7=AB?=BB=A5=AB?=BB=A7=AB?=BB=A5=AB= ?=BB=A7=AB?=BB=A5=AB?=BB=A7=AB?=BB=A5=AB?=BB=A7 > =AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF= =AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF > Gregober ---> PGP ID --> 0x1BA3C2FD > bsd @at@ todoo.biz > ________________________________________________ > =AB?=BB=A5=AB?=BB=A7=AB?=BB=A5=AB?=BB=A7=AB?=BB=A5=AB?=BB=A7=AB?=BB=A5=AB= ?=BB=A7=AB?=BB=A5=AB?=BB=A7=AB?=BB=A5=AB?=BB=A7 > =AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF= =AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF >=20 >=20 >=20 > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.o= rg" >=20 All of these are in /usr/local/include/apache2/ You might try a symlink apache2 to arp-1. There may be something in your make file that you can set correctly. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jul 6 15:28:03 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 72BF316A41C for ; Wed, 6 Jul 2005 15:28:03 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from bob@immure.com) Received: from ylpvm43.prodigy.net (ylpvm43-ext.prodigy.net [207.115.57.74]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0E33843D49 for ; Wed, 6 Jul 2005 15:28:02 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from bob@immure.com) Received: from pimout1-ext.prodigy.net (pimout1-int.prodigy.net [207.115.5.65]) by ylpvm43.prodigy.net (8.12.10 outbound/8.12.10) with ESMTP id j66FS3eA016940 for ; Wed, 6 Jul 2005 11:28:03 -0400 X-ORBL: [66.136.206.1] Received: from maul.immure.com (adsl-66-136-206-1.dsl.austtx.swbell.net [66.136.206.1]) by pimout1-ext.prodigy.net (8.13.4 outbound domainkey aix/8.13.4) with ESMTP id j66FRuH2168226 for ; Wed, 6 Jul 2005 11:28:00 -0400 Received: from luke.immure.com (luke.immure.com [10.1.132.3]) by maul.immure.com (8.13.3/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j66FRoqL045984 for ; Wed, 6 Jul 2005 10:27:50 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from bob@immure.com) Received: from luke.immure.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by luke.immure.com (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id j66FRoWX086170 for ; Wed, 6 Jul 2005 10:27:50 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from bob@luke.immure.com) Received: (from bob@localhost) by luke.immure.com (8.13.1/8.12.11/Submit) id j66FRoNo086169 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Wed, 6 Jul 2005 10:27:50 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from bob) Date: Wed, 6 Jul 2005 10:27:50 -0500 From: Bob Willcox To: questions list Message-ID: <20050706152750.GA85937@luke.immure.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.9i X-immure-MailScanner-Information: Please contact the ISP for more information X-immure-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-MailScanner-From: bob@immure.com Subject: How do I reinstall the FreeBSD bootmanager? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Bob Willcox List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 06 Jul 2005 15:28:03 -0000 I need to reinstall the FreeBSD bootmanager on one of my systems and was hoping someone can point me in the right direction on doing this. I tried running /sbin/sysinstall but decided that I wasn't confident enough of what I was doing to risk trashing my install. BTW, this is on an amd64 6-current system incase it matters. Thanks, Bob -- Bob Willcox Reality is nothing but a collective hunch. bob@immure.com -- Lily Tomlin Austin, TX From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jul 6 15:30:57 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 70DEF16A41C for ; Wed, 6 Jul 2005 15:30:57 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from freebsd-questions-local@be-well.ilk.org) Received: from mail21.sea5.speakeasy.net (mail21.sea5.speakeasy.net [69.17.117.23]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 351B643D45 for ; Wed, 6 Jul 2005 15:30:57 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from freebsd-questions-local@be-well.ilk.org) Received: (qmail 31988 invoked from network); 6 Jul 2005 15:30:56 -0000 Received: from dsl092-078-145.bos1.dsl.speakeasy.net (HELO be-well.ilk.org) ([66.92.78.145]) (envelope-sender ) by mail21.sea5.speakeasy.net (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for ; 6 Jul 2005 15:30:56 -0000 Received: by be-well.ilk.org (Postfix, from userid 1147) id 0543D2F; Wed, 6 Jul 2005 11:30:55 -0400 (EDT) Sender: lowell@be-well.ilk.org To: Bob Willcox References: <20050706152750.GA85937@luke.immure.com> From: Lowell Gilbert Date: 06 Jul 2005 11:30:55 -0400 In-Reply-To: <20050706152750.GA85937@luke.immure.com> Message-ID: <44u0j83qa8.fsf@be-well.ilk.org> Lines: 1 User-Agent: Gnus/5.09 (Gnus v5.9.0) Emacs/21.3 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Cc: questions list Subject: Re: How do I reinstall the FreeBSD bootmanager? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 06 Jul 2005 15:30:57 -0000 http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/faq/install.html#WIN95-DAMAGED-BOOT-MANAGER From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jul 6 15:32:27 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8BF6316A41C for ; Wed, 6 Jul 2005 15:32:27 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: from rosebud.otenet.gr (rosebud.otenet.gr [195.170.0.94]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D845E43D45 for ; Wed, 6 Jul 2005 15:32:25 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: from beatrix.daedalusnetworks.priv (aris.bedc.ondsl.gr [62.103.39.226]) by rosebud.otenet.gr (8.13.4/8.13.4/Debian-1) with SMTP id j66FWNbY011077; Wed, 6 Jul 2005 18:32:24 +0300 Received: from beatrix.daedalusnetworks.priv (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by beatrix.daedalusnetworks.priv (8.13.3+Sun/8.13.3) with ESMTP id j66FWNbT018176; Wed, 6 Jul 2005 18:32:23 +0300 (EEST) Received: (from keramida@localhost) by beatrix.daedalusnetworks.priv (8.13.3+Sun/8.13.3/Submit) id j66FWNt1018175; Wed, 6 Jul 2005 18:32:23 +0300 (EEST) X-Authentication-Warning: beatrix.daedalusnetworks.priv: keramida set sender to keramida@ceid.upatras.gr using -f Date: Wed, 6 Jul 2005 18:32:23 +0300 From: Giorgos Keramidas To: Bob Willcox Message-ID: <20050706153223.GA18171@beatrix.daedalusnetworks.priv> References: <20050706152750.GA85937@luke.immure.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20050706152750.GA85937@luke.immure.com> Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: How do I reinstall the FreeBSD bootmanager? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 06 Jul 2005 15:32:27 -0000 On 2005-07-06 10:27, Bob Willcox wrote: > I need to reinstall the FreeBSD bootmanager on one of my systems and > was hoping someone can point me in the right direction on doing this. > I tried running /sbin/sysinstall but decided that I wasn't confident > enough of what I was doing to risk trashing my install. Its easy. Just run boot0cfg with the right options :-) # boot0cfg -B -v /dev/ad0 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jul 6 15:35:48 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 25F9216A41C for ; Wed, 6 Jul 2005 15:35:48 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from root@pukruppa.de) Received: from moutng.kundenserver.de (moutng.kundenserver.de [212.227.126.186]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 93E7E43D55 for ; Wed, 6 Jul 2005 15:35:47 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from root@pukruppa.de) Received: from reverse-213-146-114-24.cust.kamp-dsl.de [213.146.114.24] (helo=reverse-213-146-114-24.cust.kamp-dsl.de) by mrelayeu.kundenserver.de with ESMTP (Nemesis), id 0ML29c-1DqBvh32vu-0003cj; Wed, 06 Jul 2005 17:35:17 +0200 Date: Wed, 6 Jul 2005 17:36:34 +0200 (CEST) From: "P.U.Kruppa" X-X-Sender: root@www.pukruppa.net To: Wayne Sierke In-Reply-To: <1120630154.57575.97.camel@au.dyndns.ws> Message-ID: <20050706173054.P21919@www.pukruppa.net> References: <1120584597.57575.51.camel@au.dyndns.ws> <20050706033032.E21919@www.pukruppa.net> <1120630154.57575.97.camel@au.dyndns.ws> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Provags-ID: kundenserver.de abuse@kundenserver.de login:2446dbdf8275641f979193ced594c629 Cc: "P.U.Kruppa" , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: squid bind to port 80 fails when started via squid.sh script X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 06 Jul 2005 15:35:48 -0000 On Wed, 6 Jul 2005, Wayne Sierke wrote: > On Wed, 2005-07-06 at 03:33 +0200, P.U.Kruppa wrote: >> On Wed, 6 Jul 2005, Wayne Sierke wrote: >> >>> FreeBSD 5.4-RELEASE/squid-2.5.9_3 >>> >>> If I start squid via the script (as root), I get: >>> >>> /var/log/squid_cache.log: >>> >>> commBind: Cannot bind socket FD 11 to *:80: (13) Permission denied >>> FATAL: Cannot open HTTP Port >>> Squid Cache (Version 2.5.STABLE9): Terminated abnormally. >> Did you set >> squid_enable="YES" > > Yes. > >> squid_user="root" > > No, it didn't occur to me. I was assuming that the script would set it > to the required user and I didn't see any documentation about it. > However I can now see that it should probably be self-evident for even a > semi-competent user. :) I have no idea. Being a semi-competent user myself - I worked this out by trial and error because I had to set up a transparent proxy these days. Regards, Uli. >> squid_flags="-D" > > No. It's the default in the script. > >> in /etc/rc.conf ? >> >> Regards, >> >> Uli. > > Just so I can learn a bit more from this - has this script been designed > like this because it is specifically safer to launch the squid > executable as user 'squid'? Or is it just because it's the 'norm' to > avoid running programs (from launch scripts) as root whenever possible? > > > Thanks for your help, > > Wayne > > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > ********************************************* * Peter Ulrich Kruppa - Wuppertal - Germany * ********************************************* From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jul 6 15:41:08 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D42A916A41C for ; Wed, 6 Jul 2005 15:41:08 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from kris@obsecurity.org) Received: from obsecurity.dyndns.org (CPE0050040655c8-CM00111ae02aac.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com [69.194.102.232]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9511C43D46 for ; Wed, 6 Jul 2005 15:41:08 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from kris@obsecurity.org) Received: by obsecurity.dyndns.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id CB2315144F; Wed, 6 Jul 2005 11:41:07 -0400 (EDT) Date: Wed, 6 Jul 2005 11:41:07 -0400 From: Kris Kennaway To: vdm.fbsd@virgilio.it Message-ID: <20050706154107.GA81112@xor.obsecurity.org> References: <4293E4EB00155E97@ims1d.cp.tin.it> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="Nq2Wo0NMKNjxTN9z" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <4293E4EB00155E97@ims1d.cp.tin.it> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: How to use libchk X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 06 Jul 2005 15:41:08 -0000 --Nq2Wo0NMKNjxTN9z Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Wed, Jul 06, 2005 at 01:40:50PM +0200, vdm.fbsd@virgilio.it wrote: > Running libchk I find for instance >=20 > Unresolvable link(s) found in: /usr/X11R6/lib/firefox/components/libjar50= .so > libnspr4.so > libplc4.so > libplds4.so > libxpcom.so >=20 > What should I do? > Delete /usr/X11R6/lib/firefox/components/libjar50.so ? > Delete the 4 cited *.so files? Nothing, in this case. They're supposed to be that way. Kris --Nq2Wo0NMKNjxTN9z Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.1 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFCy/uTWry0BWjoQKURAr3TAKDXKn7K3Yl5Q6CL+VDjfV/C9GL3DACg7+bk TMvl7BINVbxZDRBXcR4RTXI= =xQcL -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Nq2Wo0NMKNjxTN9z-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jul 6 15:43:56 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D043B16A41C for ; Wed, 6 Jul 2005 15:43:56 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from kris@obsecurity.org) Received: from obsecurity.dyndns.org (CPE0050040655c8-CM00111ae02aac.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com [69.194.102.232]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4E6AD43D4C for ; Wed, 6 Jul 2005 15:43:56 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from kris@obsecurity.org) Received: by obsecurity.dyndns.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id AFC015144F; Wed, 6 Jul 2005 11:43:55 -0400 (EDT) Date: Wed, 6 Jul 2005 11:43:55 -0400 From: Kris Kennaway To: jdyke Message-ID: <20050706154355.GB81112@xor.obsecurity.org> References: <42CBCF9F.6000000@azimapower.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="DKU6Jbt7q3WqK7+M" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <42CBCF9F.6000000@azimapower.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: make distribution fails with call to cap_mkdb X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 06 Jul 2005 15:43:56 -0000 --DKU6Jbt7q3WqK7+M Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Wed, Jul 06, 2005 at 12:33:35PM +0000, jdyke wrote: > Trying to rebuild a jail and am getting an error on `make distribution` > I was able to do this when the server was at 5.3-RELEASE without error, b= ut=20 > since upgrading to 5.4-RELEASE it continusiously fails. >=20 > The error is: > cap_mkdb: illegal option -- l > usage: cap_mkdb [-v] [-f outfile] file [file ...] >=20 > which seems to originate from the command: > cap_mkdb -l /slaves/jail/master/etc/login.conf >=20 > Did this command ever or recently take a -l option? It does on 6.0, so it looks like you've somehow updated your sources to FreeBSD-CURRENT. Kris --DKU6Jbt7q3WqK7+M Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.1 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFCy/w6Wry0BWjoQKURAoGiAJ9jed4SrAisdNPbb5HMZcDhsRLfIACg+M3o LkVFnde48Oeda6RNPUraz2o= =30wi -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --DKU6Jbt7q3WqK7+M-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jul 6 16:07:05 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EBD2F16A41C for ; Wed, 6 Jul 2005 16:07:05 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jdyke@azimapower.com) Received: from extgw01.msys.intellispace.net (extgw01.msys.intellispace.net [160.79.150.226]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AF66943D46 for ; Wed, 6 Jul 2005 16:07:05 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jdyke@azimapower.com) Received: from malone.intellispace.net (malone.intellispace.net [160.79.145.141]) by extgw01.msys.intellispace.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 77A7CC5A93; Wed, 6 Jul 2005 12:08:36 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [192.168.2.45] (66.9.108.98) by malone.intellispace.net (5.1.053) id 42C690CE00184233; Wed, 6 Jul 2005 12:05:34 -0400 Message-ID: <42CC0195.3020206@azimapower.com> Date: Wed, 06 Jul 2005 16:06:45 +0000 From: jdyke Organization: Azima Inc. User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (Windows/20041206) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Kris Kennaway References: <42CBCF9F.6000000@azimapower.com> <20050706154355.GB81112@xor.obsecurity.org> In-Reply-To: <20050706154355.GB81112@xor.obsecurity.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: make distribution fails with call to cap_mkdb X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: jdyke@azimapower.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 06 Jul 2005 16:07:06 -0000 Kris Kennaway wrote: > On Wed, Jul 06, 2005 at 12:33:35PM +0000, jdyke wrote: > >>Trying to rebuild a jail and am getting an error on `make distribution` >>I was able to do this when the server was at 5.3-RELEASE without error, but >>since upgrading to 5.4-RELEASE it continusiously fails. >> >>The error is: >>cap_mkdb: illegal option -- l >>usage: cap_mkdb [-v] [-f outfile] file [file ...] >> >>which seems to originate from the command: >>cap_mkdb -l /slaves/jail/master/etc/login.conf >> >>Did this command ever or recently take a -l option? > > > It does on 6.0, so it looks like you've somehow updated your sources > to FreeBSD-CURRENT. > hmmmm. sweet. thanks. i'll check that out. my cvs-supfile is *default release=cvs tag=. and my uname -r is 5.4-RELEASE-p2 did i mess that i up? Thanks Jeff > Kris From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jul 6 16:11:00 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E2F3816A41C for ; Wed, 6 Jul 2005 16:11:00 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from chris@seagul.co.uk) Received: from office.seagul.co.uk (dsl-62-3-120-198.zen.co.uk [62.3.120.198]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 303AA43D48 for ; Wed, 6 Jul 2005 16:10:57 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from chris@seagul.co.uk) Received: from [192.168.3.103] ([192.168.3.103]) by office.seagul.co.uk with MailEnable ESMTP; Wed, 06 Jul 2005 17:10:35 +0100 Message-ID: <42CC027B.7030808@seagul.co.uk> Date: Wed, 06 Jul 2005 17:10:35 +0100 From: Chris Roos User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.2 (Windows/20050317) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Migrating FreeBsd installation to another hard drive X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 06 Jul 2005 16:11:01 -0000 Hi, I've recently had the job of moving a FreeBsd installation to another hard drive. After quite a lot of reading I got round to following this article[1] using a VMWare FreeBsd instance. In brief the article uses dump and restore to move the data from one mounted partition to another in single user mode. It also suggests that before you do this, you perform a minimum install on the destination disk to ensure that it boots fine. First time round, I did the minimum install and then followed the steps (minus the MAKEDEV step as I'm running 5.3R) to backup the data to the destination. This all worked fine. Second time round, I didn't do a minimum install, rather I just set-up the slice and partitions on the destination using sysinstall, and then did the dump/restore. On booting from the destination disk this time, nothing happened. I reasoned that it was because I had no boot manager installed and so went ahead and used boot0cfg -B to install the FreeBsd boot manager. The disk now boots; however, I would prefer to use the equivalent of the 'Standard - Install a standard MBR (no boot manager)' option from sysinstall as FreeBsd is the only OS on the disk and so I don't need the option of booting to it or anything else. I'm guessing that I would use fdisk to do this but if so am not entirely sure how. In addition, is this safe to perform on a disk with data or would I need to go through the dump/restore process again? One final question is whether the dump/restore process is the best approach in this instance? I have read about using dd but am not entirely sure whether this would do what I need? Thanks in advance for any help, Chris [1] http://bsdvault.net/sections.php?op=viewarticle&artid=121 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jul 6 16:20:07 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5092916A41C for ; Wed, 6 Jul 2005 16:20:07 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from sethjiusa@hotmail.com) Received: from hotmail.com (bay12-f26.bay12.hotmail.com [64.4.35.26]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2F4CD43D45 for ; Wed, 6 Jul 2005 16:20:07 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from sethjiusa@hotmail.com) Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Wed, 6 Jul 2005 09:20:07 -0700 Message-ID: Received: from 216.100.222.254 by by12fd.bay12.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Wed, 06 Jul 2005 16:20:06 GMT X-Originating-IP: [216.100.222.254] X-Originating-Email: [sethjiusa@hotmail.com] X-Sender: sethjiusa@hotmail.com From: "Sunil Seth" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Wed, 06 Jul 2005 09:20:06 -0700 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed X-OriginalArrivalTime: 06 Jul 2005 16:20:07.0052 (UTC) FILETIME=[92B404C0:01C58246] Subject: reg: Gmake X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 06 Jul 2005 16:20:07 -0000 I am trying to install Postgresql on FreeBSD and as a part of installation I wanted to use Gmake command. When I use this command it gives me command not found. I am new to FreeBSD and Postgresql. Any help would be appreciated Thanks Sunil _________________________________________________________________ Express yourself instantly with MSN Messenger! Download today - it's FREE! http://messenger.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200471ave/direct/01/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jul 6 16:25:50 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6CF1916A420 for ; Wed, 6 Jul 2005 16:25:50 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from kris@obsecurity.org) Received: from obsecurity.dyndns.org (CPE0050040655c8-CM00111ae02aac.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com [69.194.102.232]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A9D3143D45 for ; Wed, 6 Jul 2005 16:25:49 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from kris@obsecurity.org) Received: by obsecurity.dyndns.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id EA79F515CB; Wed, 6 Jul 2005 12:25:48 -0400 (EDT) Date: Wed, 6 Jul 2005 12:25:48 -0400 From: Kris Kennaway To: jdyke Message-ID: <20050706162548.GD86532@xor.obsecurity.org> References: <42CBCF9F.6000000@azimapower.com> <20050706154355.GB81112@xor.obsecurity.org> <42CC0195.3020206@azimapower.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="eqp4TxRxnD4KrmFZ" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <42CC0195.3020206@azimapower.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Cc: FreeBSD Questions , Kris Kennaway Subject: Re: make distribution fails with call to cap_mkdb X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 06 Jul 2005 16:25:50 -0000 --eqp4TxRxnD4KrmFZ Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Wed, Jul 06, 2005 at 04:06:45PM +0000, jdyke wrote: > Kris Kennaway wrote: > >On Wed, Jul 06, 2005 at 12:33:35PM +0000, jdyke wrote: > > > >>Trying to rebuild a jail and am getting an error on `make distribution` > >>I was able to do this when the server was at 5.3-RELEASE without error,= =20 > >>but since upgrading to 5.4-RELEASE it continusiously fails. > >> > >>The error is: > >>cap_mkdb: illegal option -- l > >>usage: cap_mkdb [-v] [-f outfile] file [file ...] > >> > >>which seems to originate from the command: > >>cap_mkdb -l /slaves/jail/master/etc/login.conf > >> > >>Did this command ever or recently take a -l option? > > > > > >It does on 6.0, so it looks like you've somehow updated your sources > >to FreeBSD-CURRENT. > > > hmmmm. sweet. thanks. i'll check that out. my cvs-supfile is > *default release=3Dcvs tag=3D. Yep, that'll do it. > and my uname -r is > 5.4-RELEASE-p2 >=20 > did i mess that i up? Not yet, but you would have done if you'd built and installed a new world or kernel from those sources. Kris --eqp4TxRxnD4KrmFZ Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.1 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFCzAYMWry0BWjoQKURAi3YAKC/mXKAsoY7lKCuRhftFQjoASdYHwCfVqcd Wsk40E8XEWz3749MNYfaMAM= =ZbaA -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --eqp4TxRxnD4KrmFZ-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jul 6 16:26:35 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D864216A41F for ; Wed, 6 Jul 2005 16:26:35 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from kris@obsecurity.org) Received: from obsecurity.dyndns.org (CPE0050040655c8-CM00111ae02aac.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com [69.194.102.232]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9A66B43D45 for ; Wed, 6 Jul 2005 16:26:35 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from kris@obsecurity.org) Received: by obsecurity.dyndns.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id DA1AB51206; Wed, 6 Jul 2005 12:26:34 -0400 (EDT) Date: Wed, 6 Jul 2005 12:26:34 -0400 From: Kris Kennaway To: Sunil Seth Message-ID: <20050706162634.GE86532@xor.obsecurity.org> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="N1GIdlSm9i+YlY4t" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: reg: Gmake X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 06 Jul 2005 16:26:36 -0000 --N1GIdlSm9i+YlY4t Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Wed, Jul 06, 2005 at 09:20:06AM -0700, Sunil Seth wrote: > I am trying to install Postgresql on FreeBSD and as a part of installatio= n=20 > I wanted to use Gmake command. When I use this command it gives me comman= d=20 > not found. I am new to FreeBSD and Postgresql. Any help would be apprecia= ted Install the /usr/ports/devel/gmake port, or just install the appropriate postgresql port from /usr/ports/databases. See the Handbook for more information about ports - you really do want to learn about them. Kris --N1GIdlSm9i+YlY4t Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.1 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFCzAY6Wry0BWjoQKURAoUAAKCqIpOZyS3wUH232eBLwDg+oj+m8wCgwuNS 2wOhDhJAykW/qptgsTPqG8Q= =amb8 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --N1GIdlSm9i+YlY4t-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jul 6 16:29:05 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8880616A41C for ; Wed, 6 Jul 2005 16:29:05 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from cswiger@mac.com) Received: from smtpout.mac.com (smtpout.mac.com [17.250.248.87]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 484FF43D53 for ; Wed, 6 Jul 2005 16:29:05 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from cswiger@mac.com) Received: from mac.com (smtpin07-en2 [10.13.10.152]) by smtpout.mac.com (Xserve/8.12.11/smtpout05/MantshX 4.0) with ESMTP id j66GT38O021614; Wed, 6 Jul 2005 09:29:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [10.1.1.209] (nfw2.codefab.com [199.103.21.225] (may be forged)) (authenticated bits=0) by mac.com (Xserve/smtpin07/MantshX 4.0) with ESMTP id j66GT1gl004745; Wed, 6 Jul 2005 09:29:03 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v730) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: <33CA92F6-9955-4139-B60F-BC87D083EBF5@mac.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Charles Swiger Date: Wed, 6 Jul 2005 12:28:48 -0400 To: Sunil Seth X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.730) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: reg: Gmake X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 06 Jul 2005 16:29:05 -0000 On Jul 6, 2005, at 12:20 PM, Sunil Seth wrote: > I am trying to install Postgresql on FreeBSD and as a part of > installation I wanted to use Gmake command. When I use this command > it gives me command not found. I am new to FreeBSD and Postgresql. > Any help would be appreciated Use ports: cd /usr/ports/databases/postgresql80-server make install ...this will install gmake as a dependency, along with anything else this software requires. -- -Chuck From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jul 6 16:32:50 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 16BCA16A440 for ; Wed, 6 Jul 2005 16:32:50 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from casey@phantombsd.org) Received: from phantombsd.org (dsl231-036-158.sea1.dsl.speakeasy.net [216.231.36.158]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D53D243D48 for ; Wed, 6 Jul 2005 16:32:49 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from casey@phantombsd.org) Received: by phantombsd.org (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 72D44102E64; Wed, 6 Jul 2005 09:32:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail.phantombsd.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by phantombsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B4AAA102D22 for ; Wed, 6 Jul 2005 09:32:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: from 199.181.134.212 (SquirrelMail authenticated user casey) by mail.phantombsd.org with HTTP; Wed, 6 Jul 2005 09:32:47 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <19069.199.181.134.212.1120667567.squirrel@mail.phantombsd.org> Date: Wed, 6 Jul 2005 09:32:47 -0700 (PDT) From: "Casey Scott" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.4 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.0.4 (2005-06-05) on eagle.phantombsd.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.8 required=5.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED autolearn=failed version=3.0.4 Subject: NIC suggestion X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 06 Jul 2005 16:32:50 -0000 I am experiencing the same rebooting under network stress that others on this list have reported. The box is using 3com 905b's, and I would like to try another NIC in the box to make sure that this isn't just a driver issue, though I strongly suspect it isn't. Can someone suggest a common 100 MB NIC that has proven to be very stable in 5.x? Casey From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jul 6 16:33:24 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 30F2016A41C for ; Wed, 6 Jul 2005 16:33:24 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from xfb52@dial.pipex.com) Received: from smtp-out5.blueyonder.co.uk (smtp-out5.blueyonder.co.uk [195.188.213.8]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AD64D43D49 for ; Wed, 6 Jul 2005 16:33:22 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from xfb52@dial.pipex.com) Received: from [82.41.37.55] ([82.41.37.55]) by smtp-out5.blueyonder.co.uk with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.6713); Wed, 6 Jul 2005 17:34:04 +0100 Message-ID: <42CC07D1.7040706@dial.pipex.com> Date: Wed, 06 Jul 2005 17:33:21 +0100 From: Alex Zbyslaw User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-GB; rv:1.7.8) Gecko/20050530 X-Accept-Language: en, en-us, pl MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Bob Willcox References: <20050706152750.GA85937@luke.immure.com> <20050706153223.GA18171@beatrix.daedalusnetworks.priv> In-Reply-To: <20050706153223.GA18171@beatrix.daedalusnetworks.priv> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-OriginalArrivalTime: 06 Jul 2005 16:34:04.0882 (UTC) FILETIME=[8616BB20:01C58248] Cc: Giorgos Keramidas , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: How do I reinstall the FreeBSD bootmanager? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 06 Jul 2005 16:33:24 -0000 Giorgos Keramidas wrote: >On 2005-07-06 10:27, Bob Willcox wrote: > > >>I need to reinstall the FreeBSD bootmanager on one of my systems and >>was hoping someone can point me in the right direction on doing this. >>I tried running /sbin/sysinstall but decided that I wasn't confident >>enough of what I was doing to risk trashing my install. >> >> > >Its easy. Just run boot0cfg with the right options :-) > > # boot0cfg -B -v /dev/ad0 > > Depending on the disk and the bootable partitions you might also want "-o packet" packet Use the disk packet (BIOS INT 0x13 extensions) interface, as opposed to the legacy (CHS) interface, when doing disk I/O. This allows booting above cylinder 1023, but requires specific BIOS support. The default is `nopacket'. I believe sysinstall may do this (whether always, or just under specific conditions, I cannot say, but when I used boot0cfg without -o packet, I couldn't boot partitions which I could boot after a sysinstall). You can also use sysinstall (as you suggested). I posted instructions a few weeks back so a search should turn them up, if you need them. --Alex From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jul 6 16:42:12 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1BAEE16A41C for ; Wed, 6 Jul 2005 16:42:12 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from brett@lariat.org) Received: from lariat.org (lariat.net [65.122.236.2]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 522A243D4C for ; Wed, 6 Jul 2005 16:42:11 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from brett@lariat.org) Received: from Anonymous.lariat.org (IDENT:ppp1000.lariat.net@lariat.net [65.122.236.2]) by lariat.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA12733 for ; Wed, 6 Jul 2005 10:42:08 -0600 (MDT) X-message-flag: Warning! Use of Microsoft Outlook renders your system susceptible to Internet worms. Message-Id: <6.2.1.2.2.20050706104045.0931c6b0@localhost> X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 6.2.1.2 Date: Wed, 06 Jul 2005 10:41:56 -0600 To: questions@freebsd.org From: Brett Glass Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Cc: Subject: Has this box been hacked? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 06 Jul 2005 16:42:12 -0000 A client had a network problem, and I wanted to make sure that his FreeBSD 4.11 router wasn't the cause of it, so I rebooted it. I then did a "last" command and saw the following: root ttyv0 Tue Jul 5 12:01 - 12:05 (00:04) admin ttyp0 localhost Tue Jul 5 11:57 - 11:57 (00:00) root ttyv0 Tue Jul 5 11:49 - 12:00 (00:11) reboot ~ Tue Jul 5 11:49 shutdown ~ Tue Jul 5 11:47 root ttyv0 Tue Jul 5 11:37 - shutdown (00:10) reboot ~ Tue Jul 5 11:36 shutdown ~ Tue Jul 5 05:36 shutdown ~ Tue Jul 5 11:22 Note the "shutdown" entry with the time 5:36 AM, which is odd because it's out of chronological order and the other logs don't show the typical debug messages at that time. Where might such an entry come from? How likely is it that the box has been rooted? Are there known exploits that might have been used to root a FreeBSD 4.11-RELEASE machine? (The only unusual activity I can see in the logs is a few attempts to log in as "root" via SSH. The attempts that were logged were not successful, but of course a skilled attacker would cover his tracks.) --Brett From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jul 6 16:42:43 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E3F6C16A41C for ; Wed, 6 Jul 2005 16:42:43 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from kirk@strauser.com) Received: from kanga.honeypot.net (kanga.honeypot.net [208.162.254.122]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5F1B743D4C for ; Wed, 6 Jul 2005 16:42:43 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from kirk@strauser.com) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by kanga.honeypot.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B8B092217BB for ; Wed, 6 Jul 2005 11:42:41 -0500 (CDT) Received: from kanga.honeypot.net ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (kanga.honeypot.net [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 35708-20 for ; Wed, 6 Jul 2005 11:42:36 -0500 (CDT) Received: from janus.daycos.com (janus.daycos.com [204.26.70.77]) (using TLSv1 with cipher RC4-MD5 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by kanga.honeypot.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CA0A0221790 for ; Wed, 6 Jul 2005 11:42:36 -0500 (CDT) From: Kirk Strauser To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Wed, 6 Jul 2005 11:42:32 -0500 User-Agent: KMail/1.8.1 References: <19069.199.181.134.212.1120667567.squirrel@mail.phantombsd.org> In-Reply-To: <19069.199.181.134.212.1120667567.squirrel@mail.phantombsd.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="nextPart1202267.EKqPfc2hrI"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=pgp-sha1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <200507061142.36030.kirk@strauser.com> X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at honeypot.net Subject: Re: NIC suggestion X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 06 Jul 2005 16:42:44 -0000 --nextPart1202267.EKqPfc2hrI Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline On Wednesday 06 July 2005 11:32, Casey Scott wrote: > I am experiencing the same rebooting under network stress that others on > this list have reported. The box is using 3com 905b's, and I would like > to try another NIC in the box to make sure that this isn't just a driver > issue, though I strongly suspect it isn't. Can someone suggest a common > 100 MB NIC that has proven to be very stable in 5.x? Intel EtherExpress PROs (fxp driver) are pretty much universally respected. =2D-=20 Kirk Strauser --nextPart1202267.EKqPfc2hrI Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iD8DBQBCzAn75sRg+Y0CpvERAl12AKCkAhpzZxYBnf5Rk0/K1y7JNDgplwCeNKJA Fu5Y5b033xzQuMtExzfvSJw= =0fyx -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --nextPart1202267.EKqPfc2hrI-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jul 6 16:46:17 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 711B716A41C for ; Wed, 6 Jul 2005 16:46:17 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from xfb52@dial.pipex.com) Received: from smtp-out3.blueyonder.co.uk (smtp-out3.blueyonder.co.uk [195.188.213.6]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F36D343D49 for ; Wed, 6 Jul 2005 16:46:16 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from xfb52@dial.pipex.com) Received: from [82.41.37.55] ([82.41.37.55]) by smtp-out3.blueyonder.co.uk with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.6713); Wed, 6 Jul 2005 17:46:58 +0100 Message-ID: <42CC0AD6.5030605@dial.pipex.com> Date: Wed, 06 Jul 2005 17:46:14 +0100 From: Alex Zbyslaw User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-GB; rv:1.7.8) Gecko/20050530 X-Accept-Language: en, en-us, pl MIME-Version: 1.0 To: jdyke@azimapower.com References: <42CBCF9F.6000000@azimapower.com> <20050706154355.GB81112@xor.obsecurity.org> <42CC0195.3020206@azimapower.com> In-Reply-To: <42CC0195.3020206@azimapower.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-OriginalArrivalTime: 06 Jul 2005 16:46:58.0255 (UTC) FILETIME=[530E15F0:01C5824A] Cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: make distribution fails with call to cap_mkdb X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 06 Jul 2005 16:46:17 -0000 jdyke wrote: > hmmmm. sweet. thanks. i'll check that out. my cvs-supfile is > *default release=cvs tag=. > *default release=cvs tag=RELENG_5_4 --Alex From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jul 6 16:55:05 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1F80316A41C for ; Wed, 6 Jul 2005 16:55:05 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jdyke@azimapower.com) Received: from extgw01.msys.intellispace.net (extgw01.msys.intellispace.net [160.79.150.226]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BF44743D48 for ; Wed, 6 Jul 2005 16:55:02 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jdyke@azimapower.com) Received: from malone.intellispace.net (malone.intellispace.net [160.79.145.141]) by extgw01.msys.intellispace.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 251DAC5E28; Wed, 6 Jul 2005 12:56:35 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [192.168.2.45] (66.9.108.98) by malone.intellispace.net (5.1.053) id 42C690CE00189818; Wed, 6 Jul 2005 12:53:33 -0400 Message-ID: <42CC0CD3.7080501@azimapower.com> Date: Wed, 06 Jul 2005 16:54:43 +0000 From: jdyke Organization: Azima Inc. User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (Windows/20041206) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Alex Zbyslaw References: <42CBCF9F.6000000@azimapower.com> <20050706154355.GB81112@xor.obsecurity.org> <42CC0195.3020206@azimapower.com> <42CC0AD6.5030605@dial.pipex.com> In-Reply-To: <42CC0AD6.5030605@dial.pipex.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: make distribution fails with call to cap_mkdb X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: jdyke@azimapower.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 06 Jul 2005 16:55:05 -0000 Alex Zbyslaw wrote: > jdyke wrote: > >> hmmmm. sweet. thanks. i'll check that out. my cvs-supfile is >> *default release=cvs tag=. >> > *default release=cvs tag=RELENG_5_4 > > --Alex thanks all. will re-up. was thinking `.` equated to my release, guess i should have read closer. > > > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jul 6 16:57:38 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BCEB216A41C for ; Wed, 6 Jul 2005 16:57:38 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from cswiger@mac.com) Received: from smtpout.mac.com (smtpout.mac.com [17.250.248.70]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9378F43D45 for ; Wed, 6 Jul 2005 16:57:38 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from cswiger@mac.com) Received: from mac.com (smtpin02-en2 [10.13.10.147]) by smtpout.mac.com (Xserve/8.12.11/smtpout13/MantshX 4.0) with ESMTP id j66Gvcv1000495; Wed, 6 Jul 2005 09:57:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [10.1.1.209] (nfw2.codefab.com [199.103.21.225] (may be forged)) (authenticated bits=0) by mac.com (Xserve/smtpin02/MantshX 4.0) with ESMTP id j66Gva00022217; Wed, 6 Jul 2005 09:57:37 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <19069.199.181.134.212.1120667567.squirrel@mail.phantombsd.org> References: <19069.199.181.134.212.1120667567.squirrel@mail.phantombsd.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v730) X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: <26D1E37A-B340-4CE9-BCC8-BDE358AAF56F@mac.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Charles Swiger Date: Wed, 6 Jul 2005 12:57:25 -0400 To: Casey Scott X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.730) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: NIC suggestion X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 06 Jul 2005 16:57:38 -0000 On Jul 6, 2005, at 12:32 PM, Casey Scott wrote: > I am experiencing the same rebooting under network stress that > others on > this list have reported. The box is using 3com 905b's, and I would > like to > try another NIC in the box to make sure that this isn't just a driver > issue, though I strongly suspect it isn't. Can someone suggest a > common > 100 MB NIC that has proven to be very stable in 5.x? The two that come to mind are the DEC 21x4x Tulip (dc) and the Intel 8255x (fxp). -- -Chuck From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jul 6 16:59:29 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D9A1A16A41C for ; Wed, 6 Jul 2005 16:59:29 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from brett@lariat.org) Received: from lariat.org (lariat.net [65.122.236.2]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 495D343D45 for ; Wed, 6 Jul 2005 16:59:29 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from brett@lariat.org) Received: from Anonymous.lariat.org (IDENT:ppp1000.lariat.net@lariat.net [65.122.236.2]) by lariat.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA13023 for ; Wed, 6 Jul 2005 10:59:26 -0600 (MDT) X-message-flag: Warning! Use of Microsoft Outlook renders your system susceptible to Internet worms. Message-Id: <6.2.1.2.2.20050706104045.0931c6b0@localhost> X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 6.2.1.2 Date: Wed, 06 Jul 2005 10:42:29 -0600 To: questions@freebsd.org From: Brett Glass Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Cc: Subject: Has this box been hacked? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 06 Jul 2005 16:59:30 -0000 A client had a network problem, and I wanted to make sure that his FreeBSD 4.11 router wasn't the cause of it, so I rebooted it. I then did a "last" command and saw the following: root ttyv0 Tue Jul 5 12:01 - 12:05 (00:04) admin ttyp0 localhost Tue Jul 5 11:57 - 11:57 (00:00) root ttyv0 Tue Jul 5 11:49 - 12:00 (00:11) reboot ~ Tue Jul 5 11:49 shutdown ~ Tue Jul 5 11:47 root ttyv0 Tue Jul 5 11:37 - shutdown (00:10) reboot ~ Tue Jul 5 11:36 shutdown ~ Tue Jul 5 05:36 shutdown ~ Tue Jul 5 11:22 Note the "shutdown" entry with the time 5:36 AM, which is odd because it's out of chronological order and the other logs don't show the typical debug messages at that time. Where might such an entry come from? How likely is it that the box has been rooted? Are there known exploits that might have been used to root a FreeBSD 4.11-RELEASE machine? (The only unusual activity I can see in the logs is a few attempts to log in as "root" via SSH. The attempts that were logged were not successful, but of course a skilled attacker would cover his tracks.) --Brett From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jul 6 17:01:12 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BBE8016A41C for ; Wed, 6 Jul 2005 17:01:12 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from xfb52@dial.pipex.com) Received: from smtp-out6.blueyonder.co.uk (smtp-out6.blueyonder.co.uk [195.188.213.9]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4B54F43D45 for ; Wed, 6 Jul 2005 17:01:11 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from xfb52@dial.pipex.com) Received: from [82.41.37.55] ([82.41.37.55]) by smtp-out6.blueyonder.co.uk with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.6713); Wed, 6 Jul 2005 18:01:53 +0100 Message-ID: <42CC0E55.5040300@dial.pipex.com> Date: Wed, 06 Jul 2005 18:01:09 +0100 From: Alex Zbyslaw User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-GB; rv:1.7.8) Gecko/20050530 X-Accept-Language: en, en-us, pl MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Chris Roos References: <42CC027B.7030808@seagul.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <42CC027B.7030808@seagul.co.uk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-OriginalArrivalTime: 06 Jul 2005 17:01:53.0546 (UTC) FILETIME=[68B0A6A0:01C5824C] Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Migrating FreeBsd installation to another hard drive X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 06 Jul 2005 17:01:12 -0000 Chris Roos wrote: > One final question is whether the dump/restore process is the best > approach in this instance? I have read about using dd but am not > entirely sure whether this would do what I need? > No, you should use dump/restore and if it is the root partition you will need to edit fstab afterwards. --Alex PS There's a FAQ all about this. I have no wish to decry the bsdvault article you quote, since I haven't read it -- it may even be the same as the FAQ. But if the FAQ or handbook has a section answering your question, then it is always likely to be the best starting point. http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/faq/disks.html#NEW-HUGE-DISK From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jul 6 17:07:53 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A90CA16A41C for ; Wed, 6 Jul 2005 17:07:53 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ruben@bloemgarten.demon.nl) Received: from post-22.mail.nl.demon.net (post-22.mail.nl.demon.net [194.159.73.192]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4D6F543D46 for ; Wed, 6 Jul 2005 17:07:53 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ruben@bloemgarten.demon.nl) Received: from axelds.demon.nl ([83.160.138.74]:5798 helo=abubbletprpdda) by post-22.mail.nl.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1DqDNH-00092L-GA; Wed, 06 Jul 2005 17:07:51 +0000 From: "Ruben Bloemgarten" To: "'Chris Roos'" , Date: Wed, 6 Jul 2005 19:07:36 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1250" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook, Build 11.0.6353 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1506 Thread-Index: AcWCRWIXzY6aN+J0RKql7SnRScMdAAAB8DzA In-Reply-To: <42CC027B.7030808@seagul.co.uk> Message-Id: <20050706170753.4D6F543D46@mx1.FreeBSD.org> Cc: Subject: RE: Migrating FreeBsd installation to another hard drive X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: ruben@bloemgarten.demon.nl List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 06 Jul 2005 17:07:53 -0000 Hi there, I had to do something similar i.e. change RAID levels, there is no need to install anything. Just use the fixit CD. Here is my procedure : Ofcourse you'll have to change disk[slice] names to what suits you. NOTE: I used tar for the /usr slice as I had some size constraints and therefore needed some compression ( I could have piped the dump to gzip ofcourse, but didn't). In my opinion dump&restore is the best procedure. But dd works as well. Regards, Ruben 1. boot from CD 2. goto fixit CD 3. create new mount point --> # mkdir /new_mnt 4. mount external drive /new_mnt --> # mount /dev/da0s1 /new_mnt 5. mount / on /mnt # mount /dev/ar0s1a /mnt 6. backup fstab and bsdlabel --> # cp /mnt/etc/fstab /new_mnt/fstab.BAK # bsdlabel ar0s1 > /new_mnt/bsdlabel.BAK 7. dump / --> # umount /mnt # dump -0au -C 32 -f /new_mnt/root_dump /dev/ar0s1a 8. dump /var --> # dump -0au -C 32 -f /new_mnt/var_dump /dev/ar0s1e 9. tar /usr ( or only those subsystems which contain userdata (dbase,mail,etc) --> # mount /dev/ar0s1f /mnt # cd /mnt # tar czf /new_mnt/usr_tar.tar.gz ./ 10.unmount all mounted filesystems --> # umount /mnt # umount /new_mnt 11. exit fixit and boot CD 12. power down 13. replace disks 14. boot to RAID config tool 15. set array to RAID0 16. reboot to CD 17. exit to FIXIT 18. erase current disklabel & create new label with one slice --> # dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/ar0 bs=512 count=32 # fdisk -BI /dev/ar0 # dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/ar0s1 bs=512 count=32 # bsdlabel -w -B da0s1 19. read disklabel & note c partition value 20. mount external disk & edit saved slice (step 6) 21. write edited label to disk 22. --> # bsdlabel -R /dev/ar0s1 /new_mnt 23. --> # newfs /dev/ar0s1[a,d,e,f) 24. --> # mount /dev/ar0s1d /tmp 25. --> # export TMPDIR=/tmp 26. mount & restore / --> # mount /dev/ar0s1a /mnt # cd /mnt # restore rf [PATHNAME_TO_root_dump] 27. umounting / and mount & restore /var --> # cd .. # umount /mnt # mount /dev/ar0s1e /mnt # cd /mnt # restore rf [PATHNAME_TO_var_dump] 28. extracting usr_tar.tar.gz into /usr --> # cd .. # umount /mnt # mount /dev/ar0s1f /mnt # cd /mnt # tar xzvf [PATHNAME_TO_usrtar] ./ 29. umount all open filesystems --> # umount /tmp # umount /mnt # umount /new_mnt 30. exit single user mode and startup -----Original Message----- From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org [mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org] On Behalf Of Chris Roos Sent: July 06, 2005 6:11 PM To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Migrating FreeBsd installation to another hard drive Hi, I've recently had the job of moving a FreeBsd installation to another hard drive. After quite a lot of reading I got round to following this article[1] using a VMWare FreeBsd instance. In brief the article uses dump and restore to move the data from one mounted partition to another in single user mode. It also suggests that before you do this, you perform a minimum install on the destination disk to ensure that it boots fine. First time round, I did the minimum install and then followed the steps (minus the MAKEDEV step as I'm running 5.3R) to backup the data to the destination. This all worked fine. Second time round, I didn't do a minimum install, rather I just set-up the slice and partitions on the destination using sysinstall, and then did the dump/restore. On booting from the destination disk this time, nothing happened. I reasoned that it was because I had no boot manager installed and so went ahead and used boot0cfg -B to install the FreeBsd boot manager. The disk now boots; however, I would prefer to use the equivalent of the 'Standard - Install a standard MBR (no boot manager)' option from sysinstall as FreeBsd is the only OS on the disk and so I don't need the option of booting to it or anything else. I'm guessing that I would use fdisk to do this but if so am not entirely sure how. In addition, is this safe to perform on a disk with data or would I need to go through the dump/restore process again? One final question is whether the dump/restore process is the best approach in this instance? I have read about using dd but am not entirely sure whether this would do what I need? Thanks in advance for any help, Chris [1] http://bsdvault.net/sections.php?op=viewarticle&artid=121 _______________________________________________ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.323 / Virus Database: 267.8.9/42 - Release Date: 07/06/2005 -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.323 / Virus Database: 267.8.9/42 - Release Date: 07/06/2005 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.323 / Virus Database: 267.8.9/42 - Release Date: 07/06/2005 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jul 6 17:16:09 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5187B16A41C for ; Wed, 6 Jul 2005 17:16:09 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from gregb@scls.lib.wi.us) Received: from mail.scls.lib.wi.us (mail.scls.lib.wi.us [198.150.40.25]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F14DB43D48 for ; Wed, 6 Jul 2005 17:16:08 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from gregb@scls.lib.wi.us) Received: from [172.26.2.238] ([172.26.2.238]) by mail.scls.lib.wi.us (8.12.9p2/8.12.9) with ESMTP id j66HG7G1081818 for ; Wed, 6 Jul 2005 12:16:07 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from gregb@scls.lib.wi.us) Message-ID: <42CC113D.6090307@scls.lib.wi.us> Date: Wed, 06 Jul 2005 12:13:33 -0500 From: Greg Barniskis User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.2 (Windows/20050317) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: multi-port NIC suggestions? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 06 Jul 2005 17:16:09 -0000 Along the same lines of a similarly titled concurrent thread... Can anyone suggest (or warn against) any particular NIC make/model that features 2 or 4 NIC ports on a single card, for use with 5.4-STABLE (or even 6.0 since this is a long term project)? We are interested in prototyping a small footprint router/server device, where the small form factor host chassis will only have a couple of PCI slots, but 4 or more separate LAN interfaces are desired. Thanks for any information you can provide. -- Greg Barniskis, Computer Systems Integrator South Central Library System (SCLS) Library Interchange Network (LINK) , (608) 266-6348 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jul 6 17:16:17 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5943916A41C for ; Wed, 6 Jul 2005 17:16:17 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from fbsd_user@a1poweruser.com) Received: from mta13.adelphia.net (mta13.adelphia.net [68.168.78.44]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C631543D46 for ; Wed, 6 Jul 2005 17:16:16 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from fbsd_user@a1poweruser.com) Received: from barbish ([69.172.31.81]) by mta13.adelphia.net (InterMail vM.6.01.04.01 201-2131-118-101-20041129) with SMTP id <20050706171614.KFZL14360.mta13.adelphia.net@barbish>; Wed, 6 Jul 2005 13:16:14 -0400 From: "fbsd_user" To: "Casey Scott" , Date: Wed, 6 Jul 2005 13:16:09 -0400 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.6604 (9.0.2911.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1409 In-Reply-To: <19069.199.181.134.212.1120667567.squirrel@mail.phantombsd.org> Importance: Normal Cc: Subject: RE: NIC suggestion X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: fbsd_user@a1poweruser.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 06 Jul 2005 17:16:17 -0000 I would like to inquire about what FreeBSD version are you running? Did you do a fresh install of 5.4 to a empty disk or did you do the build world process? Build world means you are running the old file system. Fresh install means you are running the new file system. During the development and integrating of the new file system into 5.x there where a lot of reports of system hangs and auto rebooting when the system was under heavy load. A nic was never considered as the problem then so maybe your nic is not the problem now. Maybe the new file system heavy load problem is not completely fixed yet. If I remember correctly it was never determined if the heavy load problem was caused by old file system using new file system code or new file system using new code and just not performing under heavy load. Just my thoughts about your problem from a different prospective. -----Original Message----- From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org [mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]On Behalf Of Casey Scott Sent: Wednesday, July 06, 2005 12:33 PM To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: NIC suggestion I am experiencing the same rebooting under network stress that others on this list have reported. The box is using 3com 905b's, and I would like to try another NIC in the box to make sure that this isn't just a driver issue, though I strongly suspect it isn't. Can someone suggest a common 100 MB NIC that has proven to be very stable in 5.x? Casey _______________________________________________ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jul 6 17:24:35 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 59F1916A41C for ; Wed, 6 Jul 2005 17:24:35 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from xfb52@dial.pipex.com) Received: from smtp-out4.blueyonder.co.uk (smtp-out4.blueyonder.co.uk [195.188.213.7]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DC13343D4C for ; Wed, 6 Jul 2005 17:24:34 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from xfb52@dial.pipex.com) Received: from [82.41.37.55] ([82.41.37.55]) by smtp-out4.blueyonder.co.uk with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.6713); Wed, 6 Jul 2005 18:25:16 +0100 Message-ID: <42CC13D0.9070709@dial.pipex.com> Date: Wed, 06 Jul 2005 18:24:32 +0100 From: Alex Zbyslaw User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-GB; rv:1.7.8) Gecko/20050530 X-Accept-Language: en, en-us, pl MIME-Version: 1.0 To: David Gerard References: <20050702233548.0116B3CDB@xprdmailfe4.nwk.excite.com> <20050703131721.GL7309@thingy.apana.org.au> In-Reply-To: <20050703131721.GL7309@thingy.apana.org.au> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-OriginalArrivalTime: 06 Jul 2005 17:25:16.0209 (UTC) FILETIME=[ACBE0A10:01C5824F] Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Linux move to FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 06 Jul 2005 17:24:35 -0000 David Gerard wrote: > Ayn Rand(founder of Scientology) > Ayn Rand was really L Ron Hubbard. At last, a conspiracy theory worth believing in :-) The truth *is* out there: http://www.holysmoke.org/cos/ayn-rand-and-hubbard.htm http://www.facade.com/celebrity/L_Ron_Hubbard/ and search for Birth Mates --Alex From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jul 6 18:02:22 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B984D16A41C for ; Wed, 6 Jul 2005 18:02:22 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from dannyman@toldme.com) Received: from shiva.nextrials.com (shiva.nextrials.com [64.81.74.145]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 928F043D45 for ; Wed, 6 Jul 2005 18:02:22 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from dannyman@toldme.com) Received: from [192.168.1.102] (mito.sr.nextrials.com [192.168.1.102]) by shiva.nextrials.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1D82A3C282E; Wed, 6 Jul 2005 11:02:22 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <42CC1CA0.3000809@toldme.com> Date: Wed, 06 Jul 2005 11:02:08 -0700 From: Danny Howard User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.2 (X11/20050607) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: John Oxley References: <20050701064849.GA1159@yoafrica.com> In-Reply-To: <20050701064849.GA1159@yoafrica.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Software RAID-1 - Swap partition X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 06 Jul 2005 18:02:22 -0000 John Oxley wrote: >Hi, > >I followed http://people.freebsd.org/~rse/mirror/ to create a software >RAID mirror. I have two 75G drives in the machine. I allocated 74G to >the filesystem on each drive and 1 G to swap. When I blanked ad1 and >created ad1s1, I didn't notice that it had taken up the whole of the >drive. Can I shrink the mirror partition and have two swap partitions, >or if that is not possible, how would I go about creating a "mirrored" >swap partition? > > Your swap partition ought to be mirrored already. From a similar system: 0-11:01 djh@castor ~> swapinfo Device 1K-blocks Used Avail Capacity /dev/mirror/gm0s1b 4167488 0 4167488 0% 0-11:01 djh@castor ~> grep swap /etc/fstab /dev/mirror/gm0s1b none swap sw 0 0 -danny -- http://dannyman.toldme.com/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jul 6 18:08:22 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 88E6D16A41C for ; Wed, 6 Jul 2005 18:08:22 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from roy2098@yahoo.com) Received: from web30203.mail.mud.yahoo.com (web30203.mail.mud.yahoo.com [68.142.200.86]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 2988343D48 for ; Wed, 6 Jul 2005 18:08:22 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from roy2098@yahoo.com) Received: (qmail 61144 invoked by uid 60001); 6 Jul 2005 18:08:21 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:Received:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:Cc:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=mPVz/125A/BKEeQZJGtgEGotvqgYPN5TewoRh+/KvmmKQKjNG7FSCLvtjCU7lY3E8vPAYiONSLRp0tyQmjyJpWAkYEs2oTGGLKr31bu0XxMrx3w6SynjtQk5Urd0iFXXORrSCUh2dXvsxNAERNSTWzS08xIEnqknmL9VG58SRzo= ; Message-ID: <20050706180821.61141.qmail@web30203.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Received: from [216.19.237.19] by web30203.mail.mud.yahoo.com via HTTP; Wed, 06 Jul 2005 11:08:21 PDT Date: Wed, 6 Jul 2005 11:08:21 -0700 (PDT) From: RA Cohen To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Cc: tedm@toybox.placo.com Subject: Compaq Presario 6000 Install Failure FBSD 5.4 RELEASE (Should Be PROLIANT!) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: roy2098@yahoo.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 06 Jul 2005 18:08:22 -0000 Ted, Thanks for getting us pointed in the right direction. Turns out the Compaq BIOS that this bunch of hardware wanted was plain ol' SCO UNIX. Go figure...just about all the other Compaq-based FBSD boxes I've built have been done with SCO Unixware 7.1 or thereabouts...go figure! Roy __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jul 6 18:13:16 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 83A9A16A41C for ; Wed, 6 Jul 2005 18:13:16 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from dannyman@toldme.com) Received: from shiva.nextrials.com (shiva.nextrials.com [64.81.74.145]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5708943D46 for ; Wed, 6 Jul 2005 18:13:16 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from dannyman@toldme.com) Received: from [192.168.1.102] (mito.sr.nextrials.com [192.168.1.102]) by shiva.nextrials.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E960D3C2831; Wed, 6 Jul 2005 11:13:15 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <42CC1F32.4010508@toldme.com> Date: Wed, 06 Jul 2005 11:13:06 -0700 From: Danny Howard User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.2 (X11/20050607) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Erik_N=F8rgaard?= References: <42C949D1.5090107@locolomo.org> In-Reply-To: <42C949D1.5090107@locolomo.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: dhclient.conf for wireless interface X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 06 Jul 2005 18:13:16 -0000 Erik Nørgaard wrote: > Hi, > > I am trying to configure dhclient to associate with the correct > accesspoint, I use FreeBSD Current with the new dhclient ported from > OpenBSD. > > The examples I can find mentions that I should create an entry in my > dhclient.conf like this: > > interface "ath0" { > media "ssid AP1 mode 11g", "ssid AP2 mode 11g"; > } > > and dhclient will then first try to associate with AP1 and then AP2. > > The problem is that with that setup dhclient enters into an aparently > infinite loop bringing up and down the interface, until I break it. I > have to manually run 'ifconfig ssid AP1 mode 11g' first. Erik, FWIW, it looks like you are doing the right thing. Maybe you have hit a bug? There may be a tweak for dhclient's configuration to extend the amount of time it will attempt a profile before giving up and trying the next. I would like to think that "mode 11g" is superflous, and that you can just set that before-hand, or at a lower level ... Good Luck, -danny -- http://dannyman.toldme.com/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jul 6 18:15:19 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3D2C516A41C for ; Wed, 6 Jul 2005 18:15:19 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from dannyman@toldme.com) Received: from shiva.nextrials.com (shiva.nextrials.com [64.81.74.145]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1061A43D46 for ; Wed, 6 Jul 2005 18:15:19 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from dannyman@toldme.com) Received: from [192.168.1.102] (mito.sr.nextrials.com [192.168.1.102]) by shiva.nextrials.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D638E3C289A; Wed, 6 Jul 2005 11:15:18 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <42CC1FAD.2050507@toldme.com> Date: Wed, 06 Jul 2005 11:15:09 -0700 From: Danny Howard User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.2 (X11/20050607) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Jamie Ann P. Zamodio" References: <20050705073050.92345.qmail@web50303.mail.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <20050705073050.92345.qmail@web50303.mail.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Linksys WMP11 on Freebsd 4.3 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 06 Jul 2005 18:15:19 -0000 Jamie Ann P. Zamodio wrote: >Hi, I would just like to ask if there is any way at >all that I can configure the Linksys wireless PCI card >(WMP11) to work on Freebsd 4.3? I know the card's not >compatible, but if I can't make it work I'll have to >buy a wireless card that IS compatible and I'm hoping >I wouldn't have to do that. > Jamie, If you can get ahold of the Windows drivers, and if NDIS is available for 4.3 (else you'll want to upgrade your OS to something more current) then you can you NDIS to set up Windows drivers. I have blogged a howto at http://dannyman.toldme.com/2005/01/05/freebsd-howto-ndisulate-windows-drivers/ Good Luck, -danny -- http://dannyman.toldme.com/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jul 6 18:15:36 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9C9C716A41C for ; Wed, 6 Jul 2005 18:15:36 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from bob@immure.com) Received: from ylpvm43.prodigy.net (ylpvm43-ext.prodigy.net [207.115.57.74]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 698C743D49 for ; Wed, 6 Jul 2005 18:15:35 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from bob@immure.com) Received: from pimout2-ext.prodigy.net (pimout2-int.prodigy.net [207.115.4.217]) by ylpvm43.prodigy.net (8.12.10 outbound/8.12.10) with ESMTP id j66IFaeA017026 for ; Wed, 6 Jul 2005 14:15:36 -0400 X-ORBL: [66.136.206.1] Received: from maul.immure.com (adsl-66-136-206-1.dsl.austtx.swbell.net [66.136.206.1]) by pimout2-ext.prodigy.net (8.13.4 outbound domainkey aix/8.13.4) with ESMTP id j66IFXa9111206 for ; Wed, 6 Jul 2005 14:15:34 -0400 Received: from luke.immure.com (luke.immure.com [10.1.132.3]) by maul.immure.com (8.13.3/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j66IFS98050140 for ; Wed, 6 Jul 2005 13:15:28 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from bob@immure.com) Received: from luke.immure.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by luke.immure.com (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id j66IFSWT087700 for ; Wed, 6 Jul 2005 13:15:28 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from bob@luke.immure.com) Received: (from bob@localhost) by luke.immure.com (8.13.1/8.12.11/Submit) id j66IFSE4087699 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Wed, 6 Jul 2005 13:15:28 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from bob) Date: Wed, 6 Jul 2005 13:15:28 -0500 From: Bob Willcox To: questions list Message-ID: <20050706181528.GD85937@luke.immure.com> References: <20050706152750.GA85937@luke.immure.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20050706152750.GA85937@luke.immure.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.9i X-immure-MailScanner-Information: Please contact the ISP for more information X-immure-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-MailScanner-From: bob@immure.com Subject: Re: How do I reinstall the FreeBSD bootmanager? - next problem :-( X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Bob Willcox List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 06 Jul 2005 18:15:36 -0000 On Wed, Jul 06, 2005 at 10:27:50AM -0500, Bob Willcox wrote: > I need to reinstall the FreeBSD bootmanager on one of my systems and > was hoping someone can point me in the right direction on doing this. > I tried running /sbin/sysinstall but decided that I wasn't confident > enough of what I was doing to risk trashing my install. > > BTW, this is on an amd64 6-current system incase it matters. I've received several private emails with suggested solutions. The simplest one for me (since I do have FreeBSD up and running on the system was to use the boot0cfg command thusly: boot0cfg -B -s 4 -m 0xd ad4 Now, to my original problem (that caused me to overwrite the FreeBSD boot manager with another that I tried called GAG). This particular system has a single 300 GB harddrive installed with four Slices (partitions in the DOS vernacular) setup as follows: 1 Windows XP (~100 GB) 2 Linux swap (~2 GB) 3 Linux root (~82 GB) 4 FreeBSD (~102 GB) With the FreeBSD boot manager (and with GAG) I can successfully boot Windows and FreeBSD, but not Linux. It's as though the boot record is not being found (geometry problems?). Perhaps someone out there has a suggestion on what's wrong, and what can be done to fix it. Thanks again, Bob -- Bob Willcox Reality is nothing but a collective hunch. bob@immure.com -- Lily Tomlin Austin, TX From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jul 6 18:22:25 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2293816A41C for ; Wed, 6 Jul 2005 18:22:25 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from tillman@seekingfire.com) Received: from mail.seekingfire.com (caliban.seekingfire.com [24.72.123.45]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D0BB043D46 for ; Wed, 6 Jul 2005 18:22:24 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from tillman@seekingfire.com) Received: by mail.seekingfire.com (Postfix, from userid 500) id 14C92286; Wed, 6 Jul 2005 12:22:24 -0600 (CST) Date: Wed, 6 Jul 2005 12:22:24 -0600 From: Tillman Hodgson To: FreeBSD-Questions Message-ID: <20050706182223.GG22185@seekingfire.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline X-Habeas-SWE-1: winter into spring X-Habeas-SWE-2: brightly anticipated X-Habeas-SWE-3: like Habeas SWE (tm) X-Habeas-SWE-4: Copyright 2002 Habeas (tm) X-Habeas-SWE-5: Sender Warranted Email (SWE) (tm). 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X-GPG-Key-ID: 828AFC7B X-GPG-Fingerprint: 5584 14BA C9EB 1524 0E68 F543 0F0A 7FBC 828A FC7B X-GPG-Key: http://www.seekingfire.com/personal/gpg_key.asc X-Urban-Legend: There is lots of hidden information in headers X-Tillman-rules: yes he does User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.9i Subject: Trouble connecting OS X 10.4.1 client to FreeBSD -current (on sparc64) mpd server for pptp tunneling X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 06 Jul 2005 18:22:25 -0000 Howdy, I've been googling for information about getting a Mac OS X client (a powerbook running 10.4.1) to work with a VPN server of some sort on FreeBSD (-current as of April 25 running on sparc64). The VPN server has a static IP and acts as a firewall and BGP/OSPF router as well (over tunnels to other internal networks, not to the outside world). I've tried sl2tps but rapidly gave up on it -- no real documentation and it appears to be an abandoned project. I've also tried OpenVPN (which is my preferred solution, detailed at http://metanetwork.seekingfire.com if you're curious) but OS X support appears to be weak. While I can get the tunnel up and running manually, my normal OpenVPN practice of running OSPF on the client isn't an option for the OS X road-warrior case that I have. The GUI doesn't like the Spotlight position on the menu bar and appears to be a semi-abandoned project (I had to dig through an archived older version of the web page to get it). So I tried mpd to implement PPTP. In theory, with native OS X support and proxy-arp replacing OSPF (no dynamic routing needed if I think I'm local) this looked like the ticket. I ran into what appears to be the same issue that Robert Watson posted to freebsd-questions@ about May 5 2004: http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-questions/2004-May/045705.html I get 10 attempts to SendConfigReq and then negotiation fails. ***snip*** [pptp1] IPCP: SendConfigReq #10 IPADDR 192.168.23.30 COMPPROTO VJCOMP, 16 comp. channels, no comp-cid [pptp1] CCP: SendConfigReq #10 [pptp1] CCP: Checking whether 40 bits are enabled -> yes [pptp1] CCP: Checking whether 56 bits are enabled -> no [pptp1] CCP: Checking whether 128 bits are enabled -> yes MPPC 0x00000000: [pptp1] IPCP: state change Req-Sent --> Stopped [pptp1] IPCP: LayerFinish [pptp1] IPCP: parameter negotiation failed [pptp1] IPCP: LayerFinish ***snip*** Has anyone gotten mpd working with OS X and could share their config files and setup with me? Alternatively, has anyone gotten any other sort of decent tunneling for OS X -> FreeBSD infrastructure in place that could share what they're running and their experiences with setting it up? Thanks muchly, -T -- We tend to become like the worst in those we oppose. - Bene Gesserit Coda From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jul 6 18:26:26 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8881816A41C for ; Wed, 6 Jul 2005 18:26:26 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from freebsd-questions-local@be-well.ilk.org) Received: from mail22.sea5.speakeasy.net (mail22.sea5.speakeasy.net [69.17.117.24]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4751943D45 for ; Wed, 6 Jul 2005 18:26:23 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from freebsd-questions-local@be-well.ilk.org) Received: (qmail 3648 invoked from network); 6 Jul 2005 18:26:23 -0000 Received: from dsl092-078-145.bos1.dsl.speakeasy.net (HELO be-well.ilk.org) ([66.92.78.145]) (envelope-sender ) by mail22.sea5.speakeasy.net (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for ; 6 Jul 2005 18:26:23 -0000 Received: by be-well.ilk.org (Postfix, from userid 1147) id 6A3A72E; Wed, 6 Jul 2005 14:26:22 -0400 (EDT) Sender: lowell@be-well.ilk.org To: "Scott I. Remick" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: From: Lowell Gilbert Date: 06 Jul 2005 14:26:22 -0400 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <44u0j7iyep.fsf@be-well.ilk.org> Lines: 41 User-Agent: Gnus/5.09 (Gnus v5.9.0) Emacs/21.3 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Cc: Subject: Re: Weird "nice" behavior X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 06 Jul 2005 18:26:26 -0000 "Scott I. Remick" writes: > I'm seeing something strange/annoying tonight... maybe someone could help > explain why it's happening. > > FreeBSD 5.4-RELEASE > > I'm trying to do a large local rsync in the background, while listening to > streaming audio via RealPlayer and do other stuff. I have the rsync > running at nice level 20 ("nice -20") which I've confirmed via ps: > > 1001 77010 1452 0 116 20 45056 44332 select SN+ p1 0:30.89 rsync -av - > 1001 77011 77010 295 139 20 45048 44232 - RN+ p1 20:17.12 rsync -av - > 1001 77548 77011 0 116 20 45200 44460 select SN+ p1 0:12.06 rsync -av - > > RealPlayer is running at normal nice (0): > 1001 80675 80650 16 98 0 30004 12516 select S p2 0:22.69 /usr/local/lib/RealPlayer/realplay.bin > 1001 80688 80675 0 96 0 30004 12516 select S p2 0:00.01 /usr/local/lib/RealPlayer/realplay.bin > 1001 80689 80688 0 20 0 30004 12516 pause S p2 0:02.67 /usr/local/lib/RealPlayer/realplay.bin > 1001 80692 80675 24 -8 0 13844 6772 piperd I p2 0:00.00 /usr/local/lib/RealPlayer/realplay.bin > 1001 80693 80675 24 -8 0 13844 6772 piperd I p2 0:00.00 /usr/local/lib/RealPlayer/realplay.bin > 1001 80694 80688 24 20 0 30004 12516 pause I p2 0:00.00 /usr/local/lib/RealPlayer/realplay.bin > 1001 80695 80688 0 20 0 30004 12516 pause S p2 0:01.34 /usr/local/lib/RealPlayer/realplay.bin > 1001 80696 80688 0 8 0 30004 12516 nanslp S p2 0:01.13 /usr/local/lib/RealPlayer/realplay.bin > 1001 80765 80688 0 8 0 30004 12516 nanslp S p2 0:01.10 /usr/local/lib/RealPlayer/realplay.bin > > Not sure why it spawns so many processes, but whatever... > > Anyway, what's happening is despite rsync being nice 20, RealPlayer is > incredibly choppy. Even if I'm not doing anything else on the system. > > Now here's the weirder part: if I DO do something, such as just scrolling > a window, the audio stream stops being choppy. It's as if it takes some > OTHER application claiming CPU cycles to get rsync to properly play "nice" > and release up time, at which point RealPlayer gets the cycles it > deserves. But for some reason, rsync with just RealPlayer on its own will > not play "nice" and give up time to RealPlayer like it should since > RealPlayer is running at 0 and rsync is running at 20. Sounds like you're blocked on I/O, not CPU. SCSI drives with tagged queueing would probably perform better. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jul 6 18:28:01 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 35E8216A41C for ; Wed, 6 Jul 2005 18:28:01 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from cswiger@mac.com) Received: from smtpout.mac.com (smtpout.mac.com [17.250.248.45]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A84B743D45 for ; Wed, 6 Jul 2005 18:27:59 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from cswiger@mac.com) Received: from mac.com (smtpin01-en2 [10.13.10.146]) by smtpout.mac.com (Xserve/8.12.11/smtpout11/MantshX 4.0) with ESMTP id j66IRtPE000735; Wed, 6 Jul 2005 11:27:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [10.1.1.209] (nfw2.codefab.com [199.103.21.225] (may be forged)) (authenticated bits=0) by mac.com (Xserve/smtpin01/MantshX 4.0) with ESMTP id j66IRrxH028627; Wed, 6 Jul 2005 11:27:54 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <42CC113D.6090307@scls.lib.wi.us> References: <42CC113D.6090307@scls.lib.wi.us> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v730) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Charles Swiger Date: Wed, 6 Jul 2005 14:27:52 -0400 To: Greg Barniskis X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.730) Cc: freebsd-questions Subject: Re: multi-port NIC suggestions? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 06 Jul 2005 18:28:01 -0000 On Jul 6, 2005, at 1:13 PM, Greg Barniskis wrote: > Can anyone suggest (or warn against) any particular NIC make/model > that features 2 or 4 NIC ports on a single card, for use with 5.4- > STABLE (or even 6.0 since this is a long term project)? > > We are interested in prototyping a small footprint router/server > device, where the small form factor host chassis will only have a > couple of PCI slots, but 4 or more separate LAN interfaces are > desired. > > Thanks for any information you can provide.\ Sure. I have several firewall boxes using a 4-port DEC 21x4x PCI NIC, which I think were OEM Dell boards, but I'm not 100% certain of that memory. Looks like this (per pciconf -v -l): pcib2@pci0:14:0: class=0x060400 card=0x000000dc chip=0x00241011 rev=0x03 hdr=0x01 vendor = 'Digital Equipment Corporation' device = '21151/2 PCI to PCI Bridge' class = bridge subclass = PCI-PCI dc0@pci2:4:0: class=0x020000 card=0x11101186 chip=0x00191011 rev=0x41 hdr=0x00 vendor = 'Digital Equipment Corporation' device = 'DC21142/3 PCI/CardBus 10/100 Mbit Ethernet Ctlr' class = network subclass = ethernet dc1@pci2:5:0: class=0x020000 card=0x11101186 chip=0x00191011 rev=0x41 hdr=0x00 vendor = 'Digital Equipment Corporation' device = 'DC21142/3 PCI/CardBus 10/100 Mbit Ethernet Ctlr' class = network subclass = ethernet dc2@pci2:6:0: class=0x020000 card=0x11101186 chip=0x00191011 rev=0x41 hdr=0x00 vendor = 'Digital Equipment Corporation' device = 'DC21142/3 PCI/CardBus 10/100 Mbit Ethernet Ctlr' class = network subclass = ethernet dc3@pci2:7:0: class=0x020000 card=0x11101186 chip=0x00191011 rev=0x41 hdr=0x00 vendor = 'Digital Equipment Corporation' device = 'DC21142/3 PCI/CardBus 10/100 Mbit Ethernet Ctlr' class = network subclass = ethernet I've been using them for three or four years now with no problems, under FreeBSD 4.x. I expect they would also work just fine under 5.x, too. -- -Chuck From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jul 6 18:35:49 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BBEF216A41C for ; Wed, 6 Jul 2005 18:35:49 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jerrymc@clunix.cl.msu.edu) Received: from clunix.cl.msu.edu (clunix.cl.msu.edu [35.9.2.10]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C01D643D60 for ; Wed, 6 Jul 2005 18:35:46 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jerrymc@clunix.cl.msu.edu) Received: from clunix.cl.msu.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by clunix.cl.msu.edu (8.12.10+Sun/8.12.2) with ESMTP id j66IZjJF025397; Wed, 6 Jul 2005 14:35:45 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from jerrymc@localhost) by clunix.cl.msu.edu (8.12.10+Sun/8.12.2/Submit) id j66IZjiJ025396; Wed, 6 Jul 2005 14:35:45 -0400 (EDT) From: Jerry McAllister Message-Id: <200507061835.j66IZjiJ025396@clunix.cl.msu.edu> To: kirk@strauser.com (Kirk Strauser) Date: Wed, 6 Jul 2005 14:35:45 -0400 (EDT) In-Reply-To: <200507061142.36030.kirk@strauser.com> X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.5 PL7] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: NIC suggestion X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 06 Jul 2005 18:35:49 -0000 > > On Wednesday 06 July 2005 11:32, Casey Scott wrote: > > I am experiencing the same rebooting under network stress that others on > > this list have reported. The box is using 3com 905b's, and I would like > > to try another NIC in the box to make sure that this isn't just a driver > > issue, though I strongly suspect it isn't. Can someone suggest a common > > 100 MB NIC that has proven to be very stable in 5.x? > > Intel EtherExpress PROs (fxp driver) are pretty much universally respected. > > Kirk Strauser > We have had good experiences with the Intel based (fxp) NICs at 10, 100 and 1000 Mb. ////jerry From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jul 6 18:44:01 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 17DD416A41C for ; Wed, 6 Jul 2005 18:44:01 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from chad@shire.net) Received: from hobbiton.shire.net (hobbiton.shire.net [166.70.252.250]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C3CCD43D48 for ; Wed, 6 Jul 2005 18:44:00 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from chad@shire.net) Received: from [67.161.222.227] (helo=[192.168.99.68]) by hobbiton.shire.net with esmtpa (Exim 4.51) id 1DqEsJ-0005SI-Jz; Wed, 06 Jul 2005 12:44:00 -0600 In-Reply-To: <19069.199.181.134.212.1120667567.squirrel@mail.phantombsd.org> References: <19069.199.181.134.212.1120667567.squirrel@mail.phantombsd.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v730) X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: "Chad Leigh -- Shire.Net LLC" Date: Wed, 6 Jul 2005 12:43:58 -0600 To: Casey Scott X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.730) X-SA-Exim-Connect-IP: 67.161.222.227 X-SA-Exim-Mail-From: chad@shire.net X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.0.3 (2005-04-27) on hobbiton.shire.net X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.2 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_50, GREYLIST_ISWHITE autolearn=disabled version=3.0.3 X-SA-Exim-Version: 4.2 (built Mon May 30 00:43:02 MDT 2005) X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes (on hobbiton.shire.net) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: NIC suggestion X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 06 Jul 2005 18:44:01 -0000 On Jul 6, 2005, at 10:32 AM, Casey Scott wrote: > I am experiencing the same rebooting under network stress that > others on > this list have reported. The box is using 3com 905b's, and I would > like to > try another NIC in the box to make sure that this isn't just a driver > issue, though I strongly suspect it isn't. Can someone suggest a > common > 100 MB NIC that has proven to be very stable in 5.x? I use some dc driver based ones, though they are hard to find now and they work really well as well as some em based ones. Don't remember off hand the model number though Chad > > > Casey > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions- > unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > --- Chad Leigh -- Shire.Net LLC Your Web App and Email hosting provider chad@shire.net From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jul 6 18:55:32 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 70E3116A41C for ; Wed, 6 Jul 2005 18:55:32 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from kris@obsecurity.org) Received: from obsecurity.dyndns.org (CPE0050040655c8-CM00111ae02aac.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com [69.194.102.232]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2340F43D46 for ; Wed, 6 Jul 2005 18:55:32 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from kris@obsecurity.org) Received: by obsecurity.dyndns.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 511275144F; Wed, 6 Jul 2005 14:55:31 -0400 (EDT) Date: Wed, 6 Jul 2005 14:55:31 -0400 From: Kris Kennaway To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20050706185531.GA31552@xor.obsecurity.org> References: <44u0j7iyep.fsf@be-well.ilk.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="9jxsPFA5p3P2qPhR" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <44u0j7iyep.fsf@be-well.ilk.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Cc: "Scott I. Remick" Subject: Re: Weird "nice" behavior X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 06 Jul 2005 18:55:32 -0000 --9jxsPFA5p3P2qPhR Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Wed, Jul 06, 2005 at 02:26:22PM -0400, Lowell Gilbert wrote: > "Scott I. Remick" writes: >=20 > > I'm seeing something strange/annoying tonight... maybe someone could he= lp > > explain why it's happening. > >=20 > > FreeBSD 5.4-RELEASE > >=20 > > I'm trying to do a large local rsync in the background, while listening= to > > streaming audio via RealPlayer and do other stuff. I have the rsync > > running at nice level 20 ("nice -20") which I've confirmed via ps: > >=20 > > 1001 77010 1452 0 116 20 45056 44332 select SN+ p1 0:30.89 rsyn= c -av -=20 > > 1001 77011 77010 295 139 20 45048 44232 - RN+ p1 20:17.12 rsyn= c -av -=20 > > 1001 77548 77011 0 116 20 45200 44460 select SN+ p1 0:12.06 rsyn= c -av - > >=20 > > RealPlayer is running at normal nice (0): > > 1001 80675 80650 16 98 0 30004 12516 select S p2 0:22.69 /usr= /local/lib/RealPlayer/realplay.bin > > 1001 80688 80675 0 96 0 30004 12516 select S p2 0:00.01 /usr= /local/lib/RealPlayer/realplay.bin > > 1001 80689 80688 0 20 0 30004 12516 pause S p2 0:02.67 /usr= /local/lib/RealPlayer/realplay.bin > > 1001 80692 80675 24 -8 0 13844 6772 piperd I p2 0:00.00 /usr= /local/lib/RealPlayer/realplay.bin > > 1001 80693 80675 24 -8 0 13844 6772 piperd I p2 0:00.00 /usr= /local/lib/RealPlayer/realplay.bin > > 1001 80694 80688 24 20 0 30004 12516 pause I p2 0:00.00 /usr= /local/lib/RealPlayer/realplay.bin > > 1001 80695 80688 0 20 0 30004 12516 pause S p2 0:01.34 /usr= /local/lib/RealPlayer/realplay.bin > > 1001 80696 80688 0 8 0 30004 12516 nanslp S p2 0:01.13 /usr= /local/lib/RealPlayer/realplay.bin > > 1001 80765 80688 0 8 0 30004 12516 nanslp S p2 0:01.10 /usr= /local/lib/RealPlayer/realplay.bin > >=20 > > Not sure why it spawns so many processes, but whatever... > >=20 > > Anyway, what's happening is despite rsync being nice 20, RealPlayer is > > incredibly choppy. Even if I'm not doing anything else on the system.= =20 > >=20 > > Now here's the weirder part: if I DO do something, such as just scrolli= ng > > a window, the audio stream stops being choppy. It's as if it takes some > > OTHER application claiming CPU cycles to get rsync to properly play "ni= ce" > > and release up time, at which point RealPlayer gets the cycles it > > deserves. But for some reason, rsync with just RealPlayer on its own wi= ll > > not play "nice" and give up time to RealPlayer like it should since > > RealPlayer is running at 0 and rsync is running at 20. >=20 > Sounds like you're blocked on I/O, not CPU. =20 > SCSI drives with tagged queueing would probably perform better. Also look for Jeff Roberson's patch that addresses this performance problem, which was sent (and committed) to -current a month or so ago, and which I think I forwarded to -stable. Kris --9jxsPFA5p3P2qPhR Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.1 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFCzCkiWry0BWjoQKURAgRjAKCQd9BAipljfqzE/cSFt19JxkksbACg45Ag WLABeOijaKomZwtsErCBGMc= =I0qZ -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --9jxsPFA5p3P2qPhR-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jul 6 19:00:17 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5B25116A41C for ; Wed, 6 Jul 2005 19:00:17 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from mkb@mkbuelow.net) Received: from luzifer.incubus.de (incubus.de [80.237.207.83]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 03C6B43D45 for ; Wed, 6 Jul 2005 19:00:16 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from mkb@mkbuelow.net) Received: from drjekyll.mkbuelow.net (p54AAA629.dip0.t-ipconnect.de [84.170.166.41]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by luzifer.incubus.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id A677F32208; Wed, 6 Jul 2005 21:03:08 +0200 (CEST) Received: from drjekyll.mkbuelow.net (mkb@localhost.mkbuelow.net [127.0.0.1]) by drjekyll.mkbuelow.net (8.13.3/8.13.3) with ESMTP id j66J0heY002282; Wed, 6 Jul 2005 21:00:43 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from mkb@drjekyll.mkbuelow.net) Message-Id: <200507061900.j66J0heY002282@drjekyll.mkbuelow.net> From: Matthias Buelow To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: Message from Lowell Gilbert of "06 Jul 2005 14:26:22 EDT." <44u0j7iyep.fsf@be-well.ilk.org> X-Mailer: MH-E 7.84; nmh 1.0.4; XEmacs 21.4 (patch 17) Date: Wed, 06 Jul 2005 21:00:43 +0200 Sender: mkb@mkbuelow.net Cc: "Scott I. Remick" Subject: Re: Weird "nice" behavior X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 06 Jul 2005 19:00:17 -0000 Lowell Gilbert writes: >> FreeBSD 5.4-RELEASE >> >> I'm trying to do a large local rsync in the background, while listening to >> streaming audio via RealPlayer and do other stuff. I have the rsync >> running at nice level 20 ("nice -20") which I've confirmed via ps: Please try: http://www.chesapeake.net/~jroberson/flushbuf.diff before this discussion degenerates into the usual handwaving. The patch seems to fix some awful performance issue with certain disk i/o loads in 5.4. I don't know whether it's included in 5.4-stable by now. mkb. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jul 6 19:10:20 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DA54B16A422 for ; Wed, 6 Jul 2005 19:10:20 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from rjhjr@cox.net) Received: from lakermmtao12.cox.net (lakermmtao12.cox.net [68.230.240.27]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8770143D5D for ; Wed, 6 Jul 2005 19:10:15 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from rjhjr@cox.net) Received: from localhost ([68.230.186.138]) by lakermmtao12.cox.net (InterMail vM.6.01.04.00 201-2131-118-20041027) with ESMTP id <20050706191004.WVPG10612.lakermmtao12.cox.net@localhost> for ; Wed, 6 Jul 2005 15:10:04 -0400 Date: Wed, 6 Jul 2005 15:10:04 -0400 From: Bob Hall To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20050706191003.GA79388@kongemord.krig.net> Mail-Followup-To: Bob Hall , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Subject: perl-after-upgrade X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 06 Jul 2005 19:10:21 -0000 I don't know squat about perl. I recently ran portupgrade, which upgraded perl. Goose stopped working, because the location for Curses.pm was no longer in @INC. I tried to run perl-after-upgrade, but I couldn't get it to run. I've got a book that said to use # perl perl-after-upgrade or # ./perl-after-upgrade I also tried just # perl-after-upgrade No joy. Just for the heck of it, I tried * sh perl-after-upgrade and dang if it didn't run. It didn't look to me like an sh script, but what do I know? It wasn't supposed to change anything without the -f option, but goose ran afterward, so it obviously changed things. I looked for Curses.pm, and it moved to a directory listed in @INC. Anybody have any advice? Comments? How was I supposed to get perl-after-upgrade to run? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jul 6 19:19:09 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 89C0516A41C for ; Wed, 6 Jul 2005 19:19:09 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from leblanc@keyslapper.net) Received: from russian-caravan.cloud9.net (russian-caravan.cloud9.net [168.100.1.4]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2F82043D45 for ; Wed, 6 Jul 2005 19:19:09 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from leblanc@keyslapper.net) Received: from russian-caravan.cloud9.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by russian-caravan.cloud9.net (Postfix) with SMTP id 76993155D2 for ; Wed, 6 Jul 2005 15:19:08 -0400 (EDT) Received: from keyslapper.net (250-119.customer.cloud9.net [168.100.250.119]) by russian-caravan.cloud9.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D0543154DE for ; Wed, 6 Jul 2005 15:19:07 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by keyslapper.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6AFC4114F3 for ; Wed, 6 Jul 2005 15:19:07 -0400 (EDT) Received: from keyslapper.net ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (keyslapper.net [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 61186-09 for ; Wed, 6 Jul 2005 15:19:07 -0400 (EDT) Received: by keyslapper.net (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 3E376114E6; Wed, 6 Jul 2005 15:19:07 -0400 (EDT) Date: Wed, 6 Jul 2005 15:19:07 -0400 From: Louis LeBlanc To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20050706191907.GC42229@keyslapper.net> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <44u0j7iyep.fsf@be-well.ilk.org> <20050706185531.GA31552@xor.obsecurity.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="0ntfKIWw70PvrIHh" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20050706185531.GA31552@xor.obsecurity.org> X-PGP-Key: http://www.keyslapper.net/~leblanc/leblanc-at-keyslapper-net.asc User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.9i X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at keyslapper.net X-AntiVirus: Checked by Vexira Antivirus v1.5 Subject: Re: Weird "nice" behavior X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 06 Jul 2005 19:19:09 -0000 --0ntfKIWw70PvrIHh Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 07/06/05 02:55 PM, Kris Kennaway sat at the `puter and typed: > On Wed, Jul 06, 2005 at 02:26:22PM -0400, Lowell Gilbert wrote: > > "Scott I. Remick" writes: > >=20 > > > I'm seeing something strange/annoying tonight... maybe someone could = help > > > explain why it's happening. > > >=20 > > > FreeBSD 5.4-RELEASE > > > > >=20 > > Sounds like you're blocked on I/O, not CPU. =20 > > SCSI drives with tagged queueing would probably perform better. >=20 > Also look for Jeff Roberson's patch that addresses this performance > problem, which was sent (and committed) to -current a month or so ago, > and which I think I forwarded to -stable. I haven't noticed this problem myself (and I'm using 5.4 RELEASE), probably because I'm not using SCSI, but I am curious about the patch committal. If I understand right, this patch is not currently committed to the RELENG_5_4 branch, that not being the same as STABLE or CURRENT. Since this is a performance issue that many (like the OP) would consider serious, is there any chance this patch would make it to RELENG_5_4? I ask this purely out of curiosity, not to see whether I (or anyone else) agrees or disagrees with it. :) Thanks! Lou --=20 Louis LeBlanc FreeBSD-at-keyslapper-DOT-net Fully Funded Hobbyist, KeySlapper Extrordinaire :) Please send off-list email to: leblanc at keyslapper d.t net Key fingerprint =3D C5E7 4762 F071 CE3B ED51 4FB8 AF85 A2FE 80C8 D9A2 Did you hear that two rabbits escaped from the zoo and so far they have only recaptured 116 of them? --0ntfKIWw70PvrIHh Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.1 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFCzC6rr4Wi/oDI2aIRAuQPAJwNUc984NgoMOlyCvpbppO0pVZ/twCaA9rG Jw25Z+KXgsJf2CXAr9F0uTE= =ZD0i -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --0ntfKIWw70PvrIHh-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jul 6 19:28:57 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7043516A41C for ; Wed, 6 Jul 2005 19:28:57 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from m87carlson@gmail.com) Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.206]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1C16743D45 for ; Wed, 6 Jul 2005 19:28:57 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from m87carlson@gmail.com) Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 71so27318wra for ; Wed, 06 Jul 2005 12:28:56 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:mime-version:content-type; b=MOK1N2JLdAZxwGZTmsnLBj8ii9GDh93RG4By2BqSt86wBHyLVEV9fNPC1Uyne2q1ziwS6NEh5VdoNOuoKu+j5QAojkP2zZ1UuAq1G3BD1e2GdVZ5Ujz//XMHpaQoPelwSyxrgeLhZ/Gp6Y6X3L1Wmy76Lkzm/Q70K/47msA1yrE= Received: by 10.54.36.46 with SMTP id j46mr40920wrj; Wed, 06 Jul 2005 12:28:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.69.10 with HTTP; Wed, 6 Jul 2005 12:28:56 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Wed, 6 Jul 2005 12:28:56 -0700 From: Mike Carlson To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: Account password expiration X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Mike Carlson List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 06 Jul 2005 19:28:57 -0000 Hello, Is there a way in 5.x to have account passwords expire every 180 days? Or I= =20 should say N days really. I think this was once tunable in /etc/login.conf= =20 but thats has been repalced with PAM. Anyway, I just need account passwords to expire every 180 days, any help is= =20 appreciated. Oh, I dont subscribe to questions so please CC me. Thanks, Mike C From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jul 6 19:30:46 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 21C5316A41C for ; Wed, 6 Jul 2005 19:30:46 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from efrenba@dhl.co.cu) Received: from dhl.co.cu (DHLMAIL.dhl.co.cu [200.55.156.130]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6E92D43D55 for ; Wed, 6 Jul 2005 19:30:40 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from efrenba@dhl.co.cu) Received: from [127.0.0.1] by dhl.co.cu (MDaemon.PRO.v8.0.2.R) with ESMTP id md50000015585.msg for ; Wed, 06 Jul 2005 15:29:44 -0500 Message-ID: <42CC314D.1030306@dhl.co.cu> Date: Wed, 06 Jul 2005 15:30:21 -0400 From: Efren Bravo User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.2 (Windows/20050317) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freeBSD Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Authenticated-Sender: efrenba@dhl.co.cu X-Spam-Processed: dhl.co.cu, Wed, 06 Jul 2005 15:29:44 -0500 (not processed: message from valid local sender) X-Lookup-Warning: HELO/EHLO lookup on 127.0.0.1 does not match 199.41.113.98 X-MDRemoteIP: 199.41.113.98 X-Return-Path: efrenba@dhl.co.cu X-MDaemon-Deliver-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-MDAV-Processed: dhl.co.cu, Wed, 06 Jul 2005 15:29:44 -0500 Subject: Start telnet server help X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 06 Jul 2005 19:30:46 -0000 Hi, I've followed these steps to try to install telnet server but it doesn't works: #sysinstall ->Option: "Configure" ->Option: "Networking" ->Option: "Inetd" : This option loads /etc/inetd.conf file where I uncommented the line: telnet stream tcp nowait root ..... and at last I restart the system but when I make a ports scan it only has 21, 25 and 110 ports open. How do I start telnet server? Thanks... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jul 6 19:36:03 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D45D516A41C for ; Wed, 6 Jul 2005 19:36:03 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from youshi10@u.washington.edu) Received: from mxout3.cac.washington.edu (mxout3.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.166]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8601543D49 for ; Wed, 6 Jul 2005 19:36:03 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from youshi10@u.washington.edu) Received: from dante75.u.washington.edu (dante75.u.washington.edu [140.142.14.68]) by mxout3.cac.washington.edu (8.13.4+UW05.04/8.13.4+UW05.05) with ESMTP id j66JZaSm016797 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Wed, 6 Jul 2005 12:35:37 -0700 Received: from localhost (youshi10@localhost) by dante75.u.washington.edu (8.13.4+UW05.03/8.13.4+UW05.05) with ESMTP id j66JZaHL147672; Wed, 6 Jul 2005 12:35:36 -0700 Date: Wed, 6 Jul 2005 12:35:36 -0700 (PDT) From: Garrett Cooper To: Efren Bravo In-Reply-To: <42CC314D.1030306@dhl.co.cu> Message-ID: References: <42CC314D.1030306@dhl.co.cu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: freeBSD Subject: Re: Start telnet server help X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 06 Jul 2005 19:36:03 -0000 Did you actually add the pkg for the telnet server? Also, realize that port 21 is the default listening port for telnet, so if you thought that the open ports displayed is out of the ordinary, it's not really unless you changed the listening port. Have you tried telnetting to yourself (ie telnet localhost)? -Garrett On Wed, 6 Jul 2005, Efren Bravo wrote: > Hi, > I've followed these steps to try to install telnet server but it doesn't > works: > #sysinstall ->Option: "Configure" > ->Option: "Networking" > ->Option: "Inetd" : This option loads /etc/inetd.conf file where I > uncommented the line: > telnet stream tcp nowait root ..... > and at last I restart the system but when I make a ports scan it only has 21, > 25 and 110 ports open. > How do I start telnet server? > Thanks... > > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jul 6 19:45:57 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 00B5F16A41C for ; Wed, 6 Jul 2005 19:45:57 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from efrenba@dhl.co.cu) Received: from dhl.co.cu (DHLMAIL.dhl.co.cu [200.55.156.130]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5BD9C43D49 for ; Wed, 6 Jul 2005 19:45:51 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from efrenba@dhl.co.cu) Received: from [127.0.0.1] by dhl.co.cu (MDaemon.PRO.v8.0.2.R) with ESMTP id md50000015623.msg for ; Wed, 06 Jul 2005 15:44:58 -0500 Message-ID: <42CC34D9.3070107@dhl.co.cu> Date: Wed, 06 Jul 2005 15:45:29 -0400 From: Efren Bravo User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.2 (Windows/20050317) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freeBSD Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Authenticated-Sender: efrenba@dhl.co.cu X-Spam-Processed: dhl.co.cu, Wed, 06 Jul 2005 15:44:58 -0500 (not processed: message from valid local sender) X-Lookup-Warning: HELO/EHLO lookup on 127.0.0.1 does not match 199.41.113.98 X-MDRemoteIP: 199.41.113.98 X-Return-Path: efrenba@dhl.co.cu X-MDaemon-Deliver-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-MDAV-Processed: dhl.co.cu, Wed, 06 Jul 2005 15:44:59 -0500 Subject: Simple question X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 06 Jul 2005 19:45:57 -0000 Hi again, I'm reading a Pdf book downloaded from freeBSD.org called FreeBSD Handbook and there I always find this references: sendmail(8) sshd(8) /etc/inetd.conf(5) <-Which is the meaning of those numbers Thanks From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jul 6 19:51:10 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A51F416A41C for ; Wed, 6 Jul 2005 19:51:10 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from cswiger@mac.com) Received: from smtpout.mac.com (smtpout.mac.com [17.250.248.44]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 64FF643D46 for ; Wed, 6 Jul 2005 19:51:10 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from cswiger@mac.com) Received: from mac.com (smtpin08-en2 [10.13.10.153]) by smtpout.mac.com (Xserve/8.12.11/smtpout12/MantshX 4.0) with ESMTP id j66Johi2010998; Wed, 6 Jul 2005 12:50:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [10.1.1.209] (nfw2.codefab.com [199.103.21.225] (may be forged)) (authenticated bits=0) by mac.com (Xserve/smtpin08/MantshX 4.0) with ESMTP id j66JofG0028776; Wed, 6 Jul 2005 12:50:42 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <42CC34D9.3070107@dhl.co.cu> References: <42CC34D9.3070107@dhl.co.cu> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v730) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Charles Swiger Date: Wed, 6 Jul 2005 15:50:40 -0400 To: Efren Bravo X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.730) Cc: freeBSD Subject: Re: Simple question X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 06 Jul 2005 19:51:10 -0000 On Jul 6, 2005, at 3:45 PM, Efren Bravo wrote: > Hi again, I'm reading a Pdf book downloaded from freeBSD.org called > FreeBSD Handbook and there I always find this references: sendmail > (8) sshd(8) /etc/inetd.conf(5) <-Which is the meaning of those > numbers Thanks It refers to the section of the man pages. See "man man", or "man 8 intro", or "man 5 intro", respectively. -- -Chuck From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jul 6 19:51:51 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3562A16A41F for ; Wed, 6 Jul 2005 19:51:51 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from mtbeedee@gmail.com) Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.205]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A7E6843D49 for ; Wed, 6 Jul 2005 19:51:50 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from mtbeedee@gmail.com) Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id i6so33526wra for ; Wed, 06 Jul 2005 12:51:50 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=VwF/xBh/LveazglYwikGWBsL5+WhkvT3yZPwqeWZC8OoiaYKnNXJLeHsuBgxkQCl0UZeefaIRfbrqKqK/Kx9Yt2tWSem2Cw0+ZrgTS27NN5hAtiBwhjuEOGmmIQ+PWPu4YmARjGO8EzsNS4kMpclQbs2nbD118nCUQb2aalUZd8= Received: by 10.54.8.9 with SMTP id 9mr70833wrh; Wed, 06 Jul 2005 12:51:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.159.9 with HTTP; Wed, 6 Jul 2005 12:51:50 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Wed, 6 Jul 2005 15:51:50 -0400 From: Michael Beattie To: Efren Bravo In-Reply-To: <42CC34D9.3070107@dhl.co.cu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline References: <42CC34D9.3070107@dhl.co.cu> Cc: freeBSD Subject: Re: Simple question X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Michael Beattie List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 06 Jul 2005 19:51:51 -0000 On 7/6/05, Efren Bravo wrote: > Hi again, >=20 > I'm reading a Pdf book downloaded from freeBSD.org called FreeBSD > Handbook and there I always find this references: >=20 > sendmail(8) > sshd(8) > /etc/inetd.conf(5) <-Which is the meaning of those numbers >=20 > Thanks >=20 The numbers refer to what "section" of the manual it is in. Here's a list of what the sections are Section The human readable name 1 User commands that may be started by everyone. 2 System calls, that is, functions provided by the kernel. 3 Subroutines, that is, library functions. 4 Devices, that is, special files in the /dev directory. 5 File format descriptions, e.g. /etc/passwd. 6 Games, self-explanatory. 7 Miscellaneous, e.g. macro packages, conventions. 8 System administration tools that only root can execute. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jul 6 19:53:08 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 515BB16A41C for ; Wed, 6 Jul 2005 19:53:08 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from nalists@scls.lib.wi.us) Received: from mail.scls.lib.wi.us (mail.scls.lib.wi.us [198.150.40.25]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DF08F43D53 for ; Wed, 6 Jul 2005 19:53:07 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from nalists@scls.lib.wi.us) Received: from [172.26.2.238] ([172.26.2.238]) by mail.scls.lib.wi.us (8.12.9p2/8.12.9) with ESMTP id j66JqSG1087756; Wed, 6 Jul 2005 14:52:28 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from nalists@scls.lib.wi.us) Message-ID: <42CC35E1.2010608@scls.lib.wi.us> Date: Wed, 06 Jul 2005 14:49:53 -0500 From: Greg Barniskis User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.2 (Windows/20050317) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Garrett Cooper References: <42CC314D.1030306@dhl.co.cu> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Efren Bravo , freeBSD Subject: Re: Start telnet server help X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 06 Jul 2005 19:53:08 -0000 Garrett Cooper wrote: > Did you actually add the pkg for the telnet server? Also, realize that > port 21 is the default listening port for telnet, so if you thought that > the open ports displayed is out of the ordinary, it's not really unless > you changed the listening port. Have you tried telnetting to yourself > (ie telnet localhost)? > -Garrett Umm... telnet will appear on port 23, actually. 21 is for ftp. > On Wed, 6 Jul 2005, Efren Bravo wrote: > >> Hi, >> I've followed these steps to try to install telnet server but it >> doesn't works: >> #sysinstall ->Option: "Configure" >> ->Option: "Networking" >> ->Option: "Inetd" : This option loads /etc/inetd.conf file where I >> uncommented the line: >> telnet stream tcp nowait root ..... >> and at last I restart the system but when I make a ports scan it only >> has 21, 25 and 110 ports open. >> How do I start telnet server? Have you got a line indicating inetd_enable="YES" in your /etc/rc.conf? If so, the telnet server should be operational given the config file edit you cite above. I don't believe it requires a separate package to be installed (4.x didn't, but 5.x might, I suppose). Rather than a port scan, you could test with some thing simpler, like $ telnet localhost Final note: telnet is "off by default" for a good reason (inherent insecurity). If you don't have a really good reason (e.g. "my priceless, irreplaceable legacy application requires telnet"), you should probably set yourself up to use SSH for remote logins instead. -- Greg Barniskis, Computer Systems Integrator South Central Library System (SCLS) Library Interchange Network (LINK) , (608) 266-6348 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jul 6 19:55:26 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3554716A41C for ; Wed, 6 Jul 2005 19:55:26 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jerrymc@clunix.cl.msu.edu) Received: from clunix.cl.msu.edu (clunix.cl.msu.edu [35.9.2.10]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E5A4743D4C for ; Wed, 6 Jul 2005 19:55:25 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jerrymc@clunix.cl.msu.edu) Received: from clunix.cl.msu.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by clunix.cl.msu.edu (8.12.10+Sun/8.12.2) with ESMTP id j66JshJF025598; Wed, 6 Jul 2005 15:54:43 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from jerrymc@localhost) by clunix.cl.msu.edu (8.12.10+Sun/8.12.2/Submit) id j66JshQ9025597; Wed, 6 Jul 2005 15:54:43 -0400 (EDT) From: Jerry McAllister Message-Id: <200507061954.j66JshQ9025597@clunix.cl.msu.edu> To: efrenba@dhl.co.cu (Efren Bravo) Date: Wed, 6 Jul 2005 15:54:43 -0400 (EDT) In-Reply-To: <42CC34D9.3070107@dhl.co.cu> X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.5 PL7] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freeBSD Subject: Re: Simple question X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 06 Jul 2005 19:55:26 -0000 > > Hi again, > > I'm reading a Pdf book downloaded from freeBSD.org called FreeBSD > Handbook and there I always find this references: > > sendmail(8) > sshd(8) > /etc/inetd.conf(5) <-Which is the meaning of those numbers Those are the man page sections to look at for documentation. So 'man sendmail' would get you the man (manual) text for sendmail. Some things will show up in more than one section or have more than one thing with a similar name. So, you can put the section number in the call to get the one you want, such as 'man 8 sendmail' although with sendmail you don't really need the section number. Putting the section number in is also a way of pointing out that you should be looking at the man page for this item. ////jerry > > Thanks > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jul 6 19:58:06 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F2B2016A41C for ; Wed, 6 Jul 2005 19:58:05 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from leblanc@keyslapper.net) Received: from camomile.cloud9.net (camomile.cloud9.net [168.100.1.3]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5C2E643D46 for ; Wed, 6 Jul 2005 19:58:05 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from leblanc@keyslapper.net) Received: from camomile.cloud9.net (localhost.cloud9.net [127.0.0.1]) by camomile.cloud9.net (Postfix) with SMTP id B4D1455DC for ; Wed, 6 Jul 2005 15:58:04 -0400 (EDT) Received: from keyslapper.net (250-119.customer.cloud9.net [168.100.250.119]) by camomile.cloud9.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 06B5D559C for ; Wed, 6 Jul 2005 15:58:03 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by keyslapper.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8C632114E6 for ; Wed, 6 Jul 2005 15:58:03 -0400 (EDT) Received: from keyslapper.net ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (keyslapper.net [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 63910-06 for ; Wed, 6 Jul 2005 15:58:03 -0400 (EDT) Received: by keyslapper.net (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 5EFA111478; Wed, 6 Jul 2005 15:58:03 -0400 (EDT) Date: Wed, 6 Jul 2005 15:58:03 -0400 From: Louis LeBlanc To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20050706195803.GE42229@keyslapper.net> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <42CC34D9.3070107@dhl.co.cu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="MnLPg7ZWsaic7Fhd" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <42CC34D9.3070107@dhl.co.cu> X-PGP-Key: http://www.keyslapper.net/~leblanc/leblanc-at-keyslapper-net.asc User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.9i X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at keyslapper.net X-AntiVirus: Checked by Vexira Antivirus v1.5 Subject: Re: Simple question X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 06 Jul 2005 19:58:06 -0000 --MnLPg7ZWsaic7Fhd Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 07/06/05 03:45 PM, Efren Bravo sat at the `puter and typed: > Hi again,=20 > =20 > I'm reading a Pdf book downloaded from freeBSD.org called FreeBSD=20 > Handbook and there I always find this references:=20 > =20 > sendmail(8)=20 > sshd(8)=20 > /etc/inetd.conf(5) <-Which is the meaning of those numbers=20 This refers to the manpage section that would describe the utilitiy in question. For instance, the sendmail(8) manpage can be accessed with the following: man 8 sendmail If you omit the '8' you will get the sendmail manpage from section 1 of the manpages, which describes (if you have postfix installed, anyway) the postfix to sendmail compatibility interface. To see what each section focuses on, see: man
intro Also, you might find the following of interest: man man man apropos HTH Lou --=20 Louis LeBlanc FreeBSD-at-keyslapper-DOT-net Fully Funded Hobbyist, KeySlapper Extrordinaire :) Please send off-list email to: leblanc at keyslapper d.t net Key fingerprint =3D C5E7 4762 F071 CE3B ED51 4FB8 AF85 A2FE 80C8 D9A2 modesty, n.: Being comfortable that others will discover your greatness. --MnLPg7ZWsaic7Fhd Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.1 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFCzDfLr4Wi/oDI2aIRAjFPAJ96bygSWvWb51+8SN8O39sGtFUR9QCfanXn nHecb9povtUwZtvSNGKrriE= =92sW -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --MnLPg7ZWsaic7Fhd-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jul 6 20:05:33 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3EA5B16A41C for ; Wed, 6 Jul 2005 20:05:33 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jonc@chen.org.nz) Received: from chen.org.nz (chen.org.nz [210.54.19.51]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E0ED343D58 for ; Wed, 6 Jul 2005 20:05:32 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jonc@chen.org.nz) Received: by chen.org.nz (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 065105642A; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 08:05:31 +1200 (NZST) Date: Thu, 7 Jul 2005 08:05:30 +1200 From: Jonathan Chen To: Efren Bravo Message-ID: <20050706200530.GA31646@osiris.chen.org.nz> References: <42CC314D.1030306@dhl.co.cu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <42CC314D.1030306@dhl.co.cu> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Cc: freeBSD Subject: Re: Start telnet server help X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 06 Jul 2005 20:05:33 -0000 On Wed, Jul 06, 2005 at 03:30:21PM -0400, Efren Bravo wrote: > Hi, > I've followed these steps to try to install telnet server but it doesn't > works: > #sysinstall ->Option: "Configure" > ->Option: "Networking" > ->Option: "Inetd" : This option loads /etc/inetd.conf file where I > uncommented the line: > telnet stream tcp nowait root ..... > and at last I restart the system but when I make a ports scan it only > has 21, 25 and 110 ports open. > How do I start telnet server? Have you got the following line in /etc/rc.conf? inetd_enable="YES" -- Jonathan Chen ---------------------------------------------------------------------- char *p="char *p=%c%s%c;main(){printf(p,34,p,34);}";main(){printf(p,34,p,34);} From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jul 6 20:11:43 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 84B7216A41C for ; Wed, 6 Jul 2005 20:11:43 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from leblanc@keyslapper.net) Received: from english-breakfast.cloud9.net (english-breakfast.cloud9.net [168.100.1.9]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2BF0F43D46 for ; Wed, 6 Jul 2005 20:11:43 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from leblanc@keyslapper.net) Received: from english-breakfast.cloud9.net (localhost.cloud9.net [127.0.0.1]) by english-breakfast.cloud9.net (Postfix) with SMTP id 8228CAD8D for ; Wed, 6 Jul 2005 16:11:42 -0400 (EDT) Received: from keyslapper.net (250-119.customer.cloud9.net [168.100.250.119]) by english-breakfast.cloud9.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C0074AD91 for ; Wed, 6 Jul 2005 16:11:41 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by keyslapper.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6BD9611535 for ; Wed, 6 Jul 2005 16:11:41 -0400 (EDT) Received: from keyslapper.net ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (keyslapper.net [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 63828-09 for ; Wed, 6 Jul 2005 16:11:41 -0400 (EDT) Received: by keyslapper.net (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 3DE0B114F3; Wed, 6 Jul 2005 16:11:41 -0400 (EDT) Date: Wed, 6 Jul 2005 16:11:41 -0400 From: Louis LeBlanc To: FreeBSD Questions Message-ID: <20050706201141.GF42229@keyslapper.net> Mail-Followup-To: FreeBSD Questions Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="LKTjZJSUETSlgu2t" Content-Disposition: inline X-PGP-Key: http://www.keyslapper.net/~leblanc/leblanc-at-keyslapper-net.asc User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.9i X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at keyslapper.net X-AntiVirus: Checked by Vexira Antivirus v1.5 Cc: Subject: devfs permissions wierdness X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 06 Jul 2005 20:11:43 -0000 --LKTjZJSUETSlgu2t Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I have my devfs config set up to allow certain devices to be mounted by users in the cdusers group as follows: own da1 root:cdusers perm da1 0660 own da1a root:cdusers perm da1a 0660 own da1c root:cdusers perm da1c 0660 own da1s1 root:cdusers perm da1s1 0660 Problem is it doesn't work unless I go in as root and manually restart the devfs facility with `/etc/rc.d/devfs restart` Here's what I see: # ls -l /dev/da1* =20 crw-r----- 1 root operator 4, 27 Jun 26 23:02 /dev/da1 crw-r----- 1 root operator 4, 29 Jun 26 23:02 /dev/da1a crw-r----- 1 root operator 4, 30 Jun 26 23:02 /dev/da1c crw-r----- 1 root operator 4, 31 Jun 26 23:02 /dev/da1cs1 crw-r----- 1 root operator 4, 28 Jun 26 23:02 /dev/da1s1 # /etc/rc.d/devfs restart # ls -l /dev/da1* crw-rw---- 1 root cdusers 4, 27 Jun 26 23:02 /dev/da1 crw-rw---- 1 root cdusers 4, 29 Jun 26 23:02 /dev/da1a crw-rw---- 1 root cdusers 4, 30 Jun 26 23:02 /dev/da1c crw-r----- 1 root operator 4, 31 Jun 26 23:02 /dev/da1cs1 crw-rw---- 1 root cdusers 4, 28 Jun 26 23:02 /dev/da1s1 #=20 Seems like this resets itself every now and again to the root:operator/640 permissions too, and not just on reboot. Anyone know what I'm missing? TIA Lou --=20 Louis LeBlanc FreeBSD-at-keyslapper-DOT-net Fully Funded Hobbyist, KeySlapper Extrordinaire :) Please send off-list email to: leblanc at keyslapper d.t net Key fingerprint =3D C5E7 4762 F071 CE3B ED51 4FB8 AF85 A2FE 80C8 D9A2 A horse! A horse! My kingdom for a horse! -- Wm. Shakespeare, "Henry VI" --LKTjZJSUETSlgu2t Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.1 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFCzDr9r4Wi/oDI2aIRAkwGAJ9ktEJQWMFK5WJrP9npnY8pAaQfggCfRcPl xhS0PgAfd2kbxMiGeUbsX6E= =2HRK -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --LKTjZJSUETSlgu2t-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jul 6 20:16:09 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3E42016A41C for ; Wed, 6 Jul 2005 20:16:09 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jnatola@familycareintl.org) Received: from mail.familycareintl.org (mail.familycareintl.org [68.167.21.154]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A30C943D46 for ; Wed, 6 Jul 2005 20:16:08 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jnatola@familycareintl.org) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5.7226.0 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Date: Wed, 6 Jul 2005 16:16:05 -0400 Message-ID: <3A85D7EF44E1C744BF6434691F5659E948F4A1@fci-ex.FCI> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: Usage help Thread-Index: AcWCZ4mD+9RfZ8p1QA6T5D8FmODMDw== From: "Jean-Paul Natola" To: Subject: Usage help X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 06 Jul 2005 20:16:09 -0000 Hello everyone, I'm a newbie- please be gentle, I have deployed a BSD box running , EXIM , SA, & CLAM Here's the situation , minute after I launch Spamassassin the machine = starts crawling, although top shows anywhere from 50 - 90 idle it just slows = down extremely , for example I'll type top and wait anywhere between 4 and = 12 seconds before it actually brings up the screen. I kill SA and I'm back to normal, I have checked the paniclog and mainlog and see no indication of what = maybe causing this. The box is being used only to filter the mail , it is not storing , it = is just passing it to my mail server. The box is a PIII 450 MHz with 192 RAM I have ordered and additional 512 for it, is there a way to perhaps = limit the amount of SA processes it will run simultaneously? Could that be = what is causing it? Thanks in advance=20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 Jean-Paul Natola Network Administrator Information Technology Family Care International 588 Broadway Suite 503 New York, NY 10012 Phone:212-941-5300 xt 36 Fax: 212-941-5563 Mailto: Jnatola@Familycareintl.org=20 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jul 6 20:19:38 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E158A16A41C for ; Wed, 6 Jul 2005 20:19:38 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from mkb@mkbuelow.net) Received: from luzifer.incubus.de (incubus.de [80.237.207.83]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8FADE43D49 for ; Wed, 6 Jul 2005 20:19:38 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from mkb@mkbuelow.net) Received: from drjekyll.mkbuelow.net (p54AAA629.dip0.t-ipconnect.de [84.170.166.41]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by luzifer.incubus.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1AA85321EB; Wed, 6 Jul 2005 22:22:26 +0200 (CEST) Received: from drjekyll.mkbuelow.net (mkb@localhost.mkbuelow.net [127.0.0.1]) by drjekyll.mkbuelow.net (8.13.3/8.13.3) with ESMTP id j66KK1l4003053; Wed, 6 Jul 2005 22:20:01 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from mkb@drjekyll.mkbuelow.net) Message-Id: <200507062020.j66KK1l4003053@drjekyll.mkbuelow.net> From: Matthias Buelow To: Mike Carlson In-Reply-To: Message from Mike Carlson of "Wed, 06 Jul 2005 12:28:56 PDT." X-Mailer: MH-E 7.84; nmh 1.0.4; XEmacs 21.4 (patch 17) Date: Wed, 06 Jul 2005 22:20:01 +0200 Sender: mkb@mkbuelow.net Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Account password expiration X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 06 Jul 2005 20:19:39 -0000 Mike Carlson writes: >Is there a way in 5.x to have account passwords expire every 180 days? Or I >should say N days really. I think this was once tunable in /etc/login.conf >but thats has been repalced with PAM. man pw pw.conf mkb. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jul 6 20:22:49 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BD83416A41C for ; Wed, 6 Jul 2005 20:22:49 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from bryan.maynard@reallm.com) Received: from hosting.sourcit.net (mail3.eitsolutions.net [68.23.20.100]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2D2B943D49 for ; Wed, 6 Jul 2005 20:22:48 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from bryan.maynard@reallm.com) Received: (qmail 27323 invoked from network); 6 Jul 2005 15:16:07 -0500 Received: from al1-24.207.169.154.charter-stl.com (HELO ?192.168.1.100?) (24.207.169.154) by hosting.sourcit.net with SMTP; 6 Jul 2005 15:16:07 -0500 From: Bryan Maynard Organization: Sofos Nikitis To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Wed, 6 Jul 2005 15:15:20 +0000 User-Agent: KMail/1.8 References: <42CC34D9.3070107@dhl.co.cu> In-Reply-To: <42CC34D9.3070107@dhl.co.cu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200507061515.20637.bryan.maynard@reallm.com> Subject: Re: Simple question X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 06 Jul 2005 20:22:49 -0000 I just want to note: it tokk all of five minutes to get an answer to this question. I know not all questions are, or can be, answered this quickly. I just think it's worth noting that Open Source Software does have excellent user support. . . Just my .02 :-) >On Wednesday 06 July 2005 07:45 pm, Efren Bravo wrote: >Hi again, >I'm reading a Pdf book downloaded from freeBSD.org called FreeBSD >Handbook and there I always find this references: >sendmail(8) >sshd(8) >/etc/inetd.conf(5) <-Which is the meaning of those numbers > Thanks >_______________________________________________ >freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list >http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions >To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" Thanks, Bryan -- Open Source: by the people, for the people. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jul 6 20:24:17 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8785B16A41C for ; Wed, 6 Jul 2005 20:24:17 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from dan@dan.emsphone.com) Received: from dan.emsphone.com (dan.emsphone.com [199.67.51.101]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3E4D843D49 for ; Wed, 6 Jul 2005 20:24:17 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from dan@dan.emsphone.com) Received: (from dan@localhost) by dan.emsphone.com (8.13.1/8.13.3) id j66KOAB6051861; Wed, 6 Jul 2005 15:24:10 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from dan) Date: Wed, 6 Jul 2005 15:24:10 -0500 From: Dan Nelson To: Mike Carlson Message-ID: <20050706202410.GB38925@dan.emsphone.com> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: X-OS: FreeBSD 5.4-STABLE X-message-flag: Outlook Error User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.9i Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Account password expiration X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 06 Jul 2005 20:24:17 -0000 In the last episode (Jul 06), Mike Carlson said: > Is there a way in 5.x to have account passwords expire every 180 > days? Or I should say N days really. I think this was once tunable in > /etc/login.conf but thats has been repalced with PAM. > > Anyway, I just need account passwords to expire every 180 days, any > help is appreciated. It looks like pam_unix does check the passwd-change field in master.passwd, but I don't see any code that resets the field when a password is updated. The login.conf and passwd manpages refer to a "passwordtime" capability, but libpam zeroes out the change field when the passwd is changed. Try the following patch. After rebuilding pam_unix.so, edit /etc/login.conf, set "passwordtime" to some short value like "10m", run "cap_mkdb /etc/login.conf", change a password, and see if it expires in 10 minutes. Index: pam_unix.c =================================================================== RCS file: /home/ncvs/src/lib/libpam/modules/pam_unix/pam_unix.c,v retrieving revision 1.49 diff -u -r1.49 pam_unix.c --- pam_unix.c 10 Feb 2004 10:13:21 -0000 1.49 +++ pam_unix.c 6 Jul 2005 20:14:06 -0000 @@ -371,8 +371,10 @@ if ((old_pwd = pw_dup(pwd)) == NULL) return (PAM_BUF_ERR); - pwd->pw_change = 0; lc = login_getclass(NULL); + pwd->pw_change = login_getcaptime(lc, "passwordtime", 0, 0); + if (pwd->pw_change) + pwd->pw_change += time(NULL); if (login_setcryptfmt(lc, password_hash, NULL) == NULL) openpam_log(PAM_LOG_ERROR, "can't set password cipher, relying on default"); -- Dan Nelson dnelson@allantgroup.com From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jul 6 20:27:03 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A6DF216A41F for ; Wed, 6 Jul 2005 20:27:03 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from mwm-dated-1121545227.e68eef@mired.org) Received: from delight.idiom.com (delight.idiom.com [216.240.32.16]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 502FD43D48 for ; Wed, 6 Jul 2005 20:27:03 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from mwm-dated-1121545227.e68eef@mired.org) Received: from idiom.com (idiom.com [216.240.32.1]) by delight.idiom.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9D6581F9887 for ; Wed, 6 Jul 2005 13:27:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mired.org (mwm@idiom [216.240.32.1]) by idiom.com (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id j66KQsnT002332 for ; Wed, 6 Jul 2005 13:26:59 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mwm-dated-1121545227.e68eef@mired.org) Received: (qmail 48030 invoked by uid 1001); 6 Jul 2005 20:20:27 -0000 Received: by bhuda.mired.org (tmda-sendmail, from uid 1001); Wed, 06 Jul 2005 16:20:27 -0400 (EDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <17100.15627.155248.395539@bhuda.mired.org> Date: Wed, 6 Jul 2005 16:20:27 -0400 To: questions@freebsd.org X-Mailer: VM 7.17 under 21.4 (patch 17) "Jumbo Shrimp" XEmacs Lucid X-Primary-Address: mwm@mired.org X-face: "5Mnwy%?j>IIV\)A=):rjWL~NB2aH[}Yq8Z=u~vJ`"(,&SiLvbbz2W`; h9L,Yg`+vb1>RG% *h+%X^n0EZd>TM8_IB;a8F?(Fb"lw'IgCoyM.[Lg#r\ From: Mike Meyer X-Delivery-Agent: TMDA/1.0.3 (Seattle Slew) Cc: Subject: Problems building OO X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 06 Jul 2005 20:27:03 -0000 I'm trying to build openoffice-1.1, setting WITHOUT_MOZILLA since I don't have (or want) mozilla installed. It's failing in the build process with: rm -f ../../unxfbsd.pro/bin/odk645/examples/OLE/delphi/InsertTables/SampleUI.dfm >& /dev/null tr -d "\015" < ../../examples/OLE/delphi/InsertTables/SampleUI.dfm > ../../unxfbsd.pro/bin/odk645/examples/OLE/delphi/InsertTables/SampleUI.dfm tr: Illegal byte sequence dmake: Error code 1, while making '../../unxfbsd.pro/bin/odk645/examples/OLE/delphi/InsertTables/SampleUI.dfm' dmake: '../../unxfbsd.pro/bin/odk645/examples/OLE/delphi/InsertTables/SampleUI.dfm' removed. ---* RULES.MK *--- ERROR: Error 65280 occurred while making /adtmp/ports/usr/ports/editors/openoffice-1.1/work/odk/examples/OLE dmake: Error code 1, while making 'build_all' ---* TG_SLO.MK *--- *** Error code 255 Stop in /usr/ports/editors/openoffice-1.1. The real error seems to be an "Illegal byte sequence" while using tr to build unxfbsd.ptr. Can anyone spare a clue on what I need to do to get this to build? I know OO takes a lot of space to build. It used to say "5 gig" in the makefile, but doesn't any more. I've got 5.9gig free on the partition that the build is happening on. Thanks, http://www.mired.org/consulting.html Independent Network/Unix/Perforce consultant, email for more information. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jul 6 20:28:29 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C108416A41C for ; Wed, 6 Jul 2005 20:28:29 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from cswiger@mac.com) Received: from smtpout.mac.com (smtpout.mac.com [17.250.248.71]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 979D943D49 for ; Wed, 6 Jul 2005 20:28:29 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from cswiger@mac.com) Received: from mac.com (smtpin02-en2 [10.13.10.147]) by smtpout.mac.com (Xserve/8.12.11/smtpout14/MantshX 4.0) with ESMTP id j66KSTAB019302; Wed, 6 Jul 2005 13:28:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [10.1.1.209] (nfw2.codefab.com [199.103.21.225] (may be forged)) (authenticated bits=0) by mac.com (Xserve/smtpin02/MantshX 4.0) with ESMTP id j66KSR1t024661; Wed, 6 Jul 2005 13:28:28 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <3A85D7EF44E1C744BF6434691F5659E948F4A1@fci-ex.FCI> References: <3A85D7EF44E1C744BF6434691F5659E948F4A1@fci-ex.FCI> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v730) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Charles Swiger Date: Wed, 6 Jul 2005 16:28:25 -0400 To: Jean-Paul Natola X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.730) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Usage help X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 06 Jul 2005 20:28:29 -0000 On Jul 6, 2005, at 4:16 PM, Jean-Paul Natola wrote: > Here's the situation , minute after I launch Spamassassin the > machine starts > crawling, although top shows anywhere from 50 - 90 idle it just > slows down > extremely , for example I'll type top and wait anywhere between 4 > and 12 > seconds before it actually brings up the screen. Sounds like you are swapping. You can check top or vmstat to see for sure. You can control the number of SA child processes by adding a "- m NNN" flag to spamd_flags in /usr/local/etc/rc.d/sa-spamd.sh. -- -Chuck From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jul 6 20:38:01 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2480A16A41C for ; Wed, 6 Jul 2005 20:38:01 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from efrenba@dhl.co.cu) Received: from dhl.co.cu (DHLMAIL.dhl.co.cu [200.55.156.130]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 625EF43D49 for ; Wed, 6 Jul 2005 20:37:51 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from efrenba@dhl.co.cu) Received: from [127.0.0.1] by dhl.co.cu (MDaemon.PRO.v8.0.2.R) with ESMTP id md50000015677.msg for ; Wed, 06 Jul 2005 16:23:39 -0500 Message-ID: <42CC3DEC.3000408@dhl.co.cu> Date: Wed, 06 Jul 2005 16:24:12 -0400 From: Efren Bravo User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.2 (Windows/20050317) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freeBSD Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Authenticated-Sender: efrenba@dhl.co.cu X-Spam-Processed: dhl.co.cu, Wed, 06 Jul 2005 16:23:39 -0500 (not processed: message from valid local sender) X-Lookup-Warning: HELO/EHLO lookup on 127.0.0.1 does not match 199.41.113.98 X-MDRemoteIP: 199.41.113.98 X-Return-Path: efrenba@dhl.co.cu X-MDaemon-Deliver-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-MDAV-Processed: dhl.co.cu, Wed, 06 Jul 2005 16:23:40 -0500 Subject: Start telnet server help X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 06 Jul 2005 20:38:01 -0000 Hi, >Have you got a line indicating >inetd_enable="YES" >in your /etc/rc.conf? Yes it's indicated, The file rc.conf is accumulative? Because inside it appears the last configuration changed with the date. The line inetd_enable="YES" is repeated every time I made a change. and $ telnet localhost works but remotely doesn't. I tried to install telnet server because I'm sat down in a PC with windowsXP and I thought to connect myself to freeBSD pc to study it more comfortable. My freeBSD version is 5.4 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jul 6 20:50:17 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8683D16A41F for ; Wed, 6 Jul 2005 20:50:17 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from fbsd_user@a1poweruser.com) Received: from mta9.adelphia.net (mta9.adelphia.net [68.168.78.199]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1BAD943D46 for ; Wed, 6 Jul 2005 20:50:16 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from fbsd_user@a1poweruser.com) Received: from barbish ([69.172.31.81]) by mta9.adelphia.net (InterMail vM.6.01.04.01 201-2131-118-101-20041129) with SMTP id <20050706205016.BGV29002.mta9.adelphia.net@barbish>; Wed, 6 Jul 2005 16:50:16 -0400 From: "fbsd_user" To: "Efren Bravo" , "freeBSD" Date: Wed, 6 Jul 2005 16:50:15 -0400 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.6604 (9.0.2911.0) In-Reply-To: <42CC3DEC.3000408@dhl.co.cu> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1409 Importance: Normal Cc: Subject: RE: Start telnet server help X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: fbsd_user@a1poweruser.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 06 Jul 2005 20:50:17 -0000 You can delete all the inetd_enable="YES" statements in rc.conf but one. If you also have a firewall on the freebsd box you have to add rule to allow tcp port 23 in. In /etc/inetd.conf you have to uncomment the telnet line to activate the telnet server. You also need an user account other than root to login into using telnet. -----Original Message----- From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org [mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]On Behalf Of Efren Bravo Sent: Wednesday, July 06, 2005 4:24 PM To: freeBSD Subject: Start telnet server help Hi, >Have you got a line indicating >inetd_enable="YES" >in your /etc/rc.conf? Yes it's indicated, The file rc.conf is accumulative? Because inside it appears the last configuration changed with the date. The line inetd_enable="YES" is repeated every time I made a change. and $ telnet localhost works but remotely doesn't. I tried to install telnet server because I'm sat down in a PC with windowsXP and I thought to connect myself to freeBSD pc to study it more comfortable. My freeBSD version is 5.4 _______________________________________________ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jul 6 20:54:12 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 35A6516A41C for ; Wed, 6 Jul 2005 20:54:12 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from nalists@scls.lib.wi.us) Received: from mail.scls.lib.wi.us (mail.scls.lib.wi.us [198.150.40.25]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D25C643D49 for ; Wed, 6 Jul 2005 20:54:11 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from nalists@scls.lib.wi.us) Received: from [172.26.2.238] ([172.26.2.238]) by mail.scls.lib.wi.us (8.12.9p2/8.12.9) with ESMTP id j66KrOG1089830; Wed, 6 Jul 2005 15:53:24 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from nalists@scls.lib.wi.us) Message-ID: <42CC4429.5060402@scls.lib.wi.us> Date: Wed, 06 Jul 2005 15:50:49 -0500 From: Greg Barniskis User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.2 (Windows/20050317) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Efren Bravo References: <42CC3DEC.3000408@dhl.co.cu> In-Reply-To: <42CC3DEC.3000408@dhl.co.cu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freeBSD Subject: Re: Start telnet server help X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 06 Jul 2005 20:54:12 -0000 Efren Bravo wrote: > Hi, > >Have you got a line indicating >inetd_enable="YES" >in your /etc/rc.conf? > Yes it's indicated, The file rc.conf is accumulative? Because inside it > appears the last configuration changed with the date. The line > inetd_enable="YES" is repeated every time I made a change. You only need it to be indicated once. Edit out all but the last instance (although I think if you have multiple instances, only the last one will apply). > and $ telnet localhost works but remotely doesn't. Have you got a firewall somewhere in between the FBSD and Windows box (maybe the Windows box' firewall service itself)? Or have you tried to configure firewall services on the BSD box (in which case you must likely create firewall rules that permit remote attachments to your BSD-based services)? > I tried to install telnet server because I'm sat down in a PC with > windowsXP and I thought to connect myself to freeBSD pc to study it more > comfortable. You might try PuTTy, a free SSH client for Windows. http://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~sgtatham/putty/ In addition to providing encryption of your login session, it's better than Windows command line telnet in many other ways (color control, selecting text with your mouse automatically copies text to the clipboard, etc.). Also, you don't have to figure out how to get telnetd working... just sshd_enable="YES" in rc.conf, and inetd_enable="NO" ;) -- Greg Barniskis, Computer Systems Integrator South Central Library System (SCLS) Library Interchange Network (LINK) , (608) 266-6348 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jul 6 20:55:09 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 40C6816A41C for ; Wed, 6 Jul 2005 20:55:09 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jnatola@familycareintl.org) Received: from mail.familycareintl.org (mail.familycareintl.org [68.167.21.154]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D49F243D46 for ; Wed, 6 Jul 2005 20:55:08 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jnatola@familycareintl.org) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5.7226.0 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Date: Wed, 6 Jul 2005 16:55:06 -0400 Message-ID: <3A85D7EF44E1C744BF6434691F5659E948F4B1@fci-ex.FCI> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: Usage help Thread-Index: AcWCa+OfAkC3fsZNRsqyxERTFcJ1WAAAQpdA From: "Jean-Paul Natola" To: "Charles Swiger" Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: RE: Usage help X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 06 Jul 2005 20:55:09 -0000 Ok, if I can figure out what this means procs memory page disk faults cpu r b w avm fre flt re pi po fr sr ad0 in sy cs us sy = id 1 10 0 435856 5288 260 22 63 43 334 9137 0 447 134 782 11 6 = 83 -----Original Message----- From: Charles Swiger [mailto:cswiger@mac.com]=20 Sent: Wednesday, July 06, 2005 4:28 PM To: Jean-Paul Natola Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Usage help On Jul 6, 2005, at 4:16 PM, Jean-Paul Natola wrote: > Here's the situation , minute after I launch Spamassassin the =20 > machine starts > crawling, although top shows anywhere from 50 - 90 idle it just =20 > slows down > extremely , for example I'll type top and wait anywhere between 4 =20 > and 12 > seconds before it actually brings up the screen. Sounds like you are swapping. You can check top or vmstat to see for =20 sure. You can control the number of SA child processes by adding a "-=20 m NNN" flag to spamd_flags in /usr/local/etc/rc.d/sa-spamd.sh. --=20 -Chuck From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jul 6 21:03:48 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3FE9C16A41C for ; Wed, 6 Jul 2005 21:03:48 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from abonilla@linuxwireless.org) Received: from linuxwireless.org.ve.carpathiahost.net (linuxwireless.org.ve.carpathiahost.net [66.117.45.234]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9ED1C43D45 for ; Wed, 6 Jul 2005 21:03:47 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from abonilla@linuxwireless.org) Received: from WCRSJO2KPAB047 ([200.9.49.66]) by linuxwireless.org.ve.carpathiahost.net (8.12.10/8.12.10) with SMTP id j66L3n2s021056 for ; Wed, 6 Jul 2005 17:03:50 -0400 From: "Alejandro Bonilla" To: Date: Wed, 6 Jul 2005 15:03:41 -0600 Message-ID: <003a01c5826e$31106a60$600cc60a@amer.sykes.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook CWS, Build 9.0.6604 (9.0.2911.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1506 Importance: Normal Cc: Subject: IBM HDAPS Driver X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: abonilla@linuxwireless.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 06 Jul 2005 21:03:48 -0000 Hi, As maybe you have already noticed, I use Linux, but this doesn't go into the case. We are working on getting the IBM HDAPS (Hard Drive Active Protection System) which is the one that parks the head of your new IBM lappy when it's on free fall or when there is heavy vibration. Anyway, if you are interested in looking at making a driver for it, here is some of the info and what we have so far as per our Linux driver which has been out for 5 days of development. hdaps.sf.net will be the site for the Project. We can host both FreeBSD and Linux projects there. I'm not racist like to not have them both there. If you are interested. I can make a separate mailing list for BSD users. Current Mailing list is: Hdaps-devel mailing list Hdaps-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/hdaps-devel We have an irc channel #hdaps at irc.freenode.org Current ultra beta with no really any information driver is at: http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=138242 And the documentation that IBM "released" to make a driver is located at: http://www.almaden.ibm.com/cs/people/marksmith/tpaps.html So, as you wish. This is me only giving data for you to play with things as much as you can or wish. I just battled with IBM like for 3 months so they could do something, and they "released" this little info. If someone makes a driver, and want to host it in the same place, please let me know. It would be fun. HAVE FUN. (Please let me know if this is not the best place to announce this) .Alejandro From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jul 6 21:08:07 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 63F9216A41C for ; Wed, 6 Jul 2005 21:08:07 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jdyke@azimapower.com) Received: from extgw01.msys.intellispace.net (extgw01.msys.intellispace.net [160.79.150.226]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 25CAA43D46 for ; Wed, 6 Jul 2005 21:08:07 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jdyke@azimapower.com) Received: from malone.intellispace.net (malone.intellispace.net [160.79.145.141]) by extgw01.msys.intellispace.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B93E5C6DEA; Wed, 6 Jul 2005 17:09:39 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [192.168.2.45] (66.9.108.98) by malone.intellispace.net (5.1.053) id 42C690CE001A45FA; Wed, 6 Jul 2005 17:06:38 -0400 Message-ID: <42CC4836.1000101@azimapower.com> Date: Wed, 06 Jul 2005 21:08:06 +0000 From: jdyke Organization: Azima Inc. User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (Windows/20041206) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Efren Bravo References: <42CC3DEC.3000408@dhl.co.cu> In-Reply-To: <42CC3DEC.3000408@dhl.co.cu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freeBSD Subject: Re: Start telnet server help X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: jdyke@azimapower.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 06 Jul 2005 21:08:07 -0000 Efren Bravo wrote: > Hi, > >Have you got a line indicating >inetd_enable="YES" >in your /etc/rc.conf? > Yes it's indicated, The file rc.conf is accumulative? Because inside it > appears the last configuration changed with the date. The line > inetd_enable="YES" is repeated every time I made a change. > and $ telnet localhost works but remotely doesn't. > I tried to install telnet server because I'm sat down in a PC with > windowsXP and I thought to connect myself to freeBSD pc to study it more > comfortable. What you probably already have it sshd installed on freebsd,unless you said no at install, and while you can not use XP alone to connect to FreeBSD over ssh you can download putty (http://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~sgtatham/putty/) to do this very simply. Sorry to distract what you were doing, but try to avoid telnet as much as you can for network connections. hth Jeff > > My freeBSD version is 5.4 > > > > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jul 6 21:14:01 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EC1C216A41C for ; Wed, 6 Jul 2005 21:14:01 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jnatola@familycareintl.org) Received: from mail.familycareintl.org (mail.familycareintl.org [68.167.21.154]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9BFB243D55 for ; Wed, 6 Jul 2005 21:14:01 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jnatola@familycareintl.org) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5.7226.0 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Date: Wed, 6 Jul 2005 17:13:59 -0400 Message-ID: <3A85D7EF44E1C744BF6434691F5659E948F4BB@fci-ex.FCI> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: Usage help Thread-Index: AcWCa+OfAkC3fsZNRsqyxERTFcJ1WAAA5Rog From: "Jean-Paul Natola" To: "Charles Swiger" Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: RE: Usage help X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 06 Jul 2005 21:14:02 -0000 On Jul 6, 2005, at 4:16 PM, Jean-Paul Natola wrote: > Here's the situation , minute after I launch Spamassassin the =20 > machine starts > crawling, although top shows anywhere from 50 - 90 idle it just =20 > slows down > extremely , for example I'll type top and wait anywhere between 4 =20 > and 12 > seconds before it actually brings up the screen. Sounds like you are swapping. You can check top or vmstat to see for =20 sure. You can control the number of SA child processes by adding a "-=20 m NNN" flag to spamd_flags in /usr/local/etc/rc.d/sa-spamd.sh. --=20 -Chuck Yep I think you hit right on the head Swap: 231M Total, 214M Used, 17M Free, 92% Inuse, 720K In, 520K Out From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jul 6 21:26:08 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7B9BF16A41C for ; Wed, 6 Jul 2005 21:26:08 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jnatola@familycareintl.org) Received: from mail.familycareintl.org (mail.familycareintl.org [68.167.21.154]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E75B343D55 for ; Wed, 6 Jul 2005 21:26:07 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jnatola@familycareintl.org) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5.7226.0 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Date: Wed, 6 Jul 2005 17:26:05 -0400 Message-ID: <3A85D7EF44E1C744BF6434691F5659E948F4BC@fci-ex.FCI> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: Usage help Thread-Index: AcWCa+OfAkC3fsZNRsqyxERTFcJ1WAABRBow From: "Jean-Paul Natola" To: "Charles Swiger" Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: RE: Usage help X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 06 Jul 2005 21:26:08 -0000 On Jul 6, 2005, at 4:16 PM, Jean-Paul Natola wrote: > Here's the situation , minute after I launch Spamassassin the =20 > machine starts > crawling, although top shows anywhere from 50 - 90 idle it just =20 > slows down > extremely , for example I'll type top and wait anywhere between 4 =20 > and 12 > seconds before it actually brings up the screen. Sounds like you are swapping. You can check top or vmstat to see for =20 sure. You can control the number of SA child processes by adding a "-=20 m NNN" flag to spamd_flags in /usr/local/etc/rc.d/sa-spamd.sh. --=20 -Chuck Excuse my ignorance ; Here's the original line spamd_flags=3D${spamd_flags:-"-c -d -r ${spamd_pidfile}"} is this how I should change it? spamd_flags=3D${spamd_flags:-"-c -d -r - m 20 ${spamd_pidfile}"} From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jul 6 21:27:44 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8FE5E16A41C for ; Wed, 6 Jul 2005 21:27:44 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from cswiger@mac.com) Received: from smtpout.mac.com (smtpout.mac.com [17.250.248.86]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3BECD43D55 for ; Wed, 6 Jul 2005 21:27:44 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from cswiger@mac.com) Received: from mac.com (smtpin01-en2 [10.13.10.146]) by smtpout.mac.com (Xserve/8.12.11/smtpout04/MantshX 4.0) with ESMTP id j66LCPNB005724; Wed, 6 Jul 2005 14:12:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [10.1.1.209] (nfw2.codefab.com [199.103.21.225] (may be forged)) (authenticated bits=0) by mac.com (Xserve/smtpin01/MantshX 4.0) with ESMTP id j66LCOWJ008840; Wed, 6 Jul 2005 14:12:25 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <3A85D7EF44E1C744BF6434691F5659E948F4B1@fci-ex.FCI> References: <3A85D7EF44E1C744BF6434691F5659E948F4B1@fci-ex.FCI> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v730) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Charles Swiger Date: Wed, 6 Jul 2005 17:12:23 -0400 To: Jean-Paul Natola X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.730) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Usage help X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 06 Jul 2005 21:27:44 -0000 On Jul 6, 2005, at 4:55 PM, Jean-Paul Natola wrote: > Ok, if I can figure out what this means > > procs memory page disk faults cpu > r b w avm fre flt re pi po fr sr ad0 in sy cs us > sy id > 1 10 0 435856 5288 260 22 63 43 334 9137 0 447 134 782 > 11 6 83 You need to either run vmstat with an interval (3 or 5 works OK) for a while, and see the load over time, or you can run "vmstat -s" and get detailed statistics. -- -Chuck From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jul 6 21:32:31 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6E9BF16A41C for ; Wed, 6 Jul 2005 21:32:31 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from cswiger@mac.com) Received: from smtpout.mac.com (smtpout.mac.com [17.250.248.97]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2DD9843D48 for ; Wed, 6 Jul 2005 21:32:31 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from cswiger@mac.com) Received: from mac.com (smtpin01-en2 [10.13.10.146]) by smtpout.mac.com (Xserve/8.12.11/smtpout06/MantshX 4.0) with ESMTP id j66LWUVL006813; Wed, 6 Jul 2005 14:32:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [10.1.1.209] (nfw2.codefab.com [199.103.21.225] (may be forged)) (authenticated bits=0) by mac.com (Xserve/smtpin01/MantshX 4.0) with ESMTP id j66LWSpR017310; Wed, 6 Jul 2005 14:32:30 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <3A85D7EF44E1C744BF6434691F5659E948F4BC@fci-ex.FCI> References: <3A85D7EF44E1C744BF6434691F5659E948F4BC@fci-ex.FCI> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v730) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Charles Swiger Date: Wed, 6 Jul 2005 17:32:28 -0400 To: Jean-Paul Natola X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.730) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Usage help X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 06 Jul 2005 21:32:31 -0000 On Jul 6, 2005, at 5:26 PM, Jean-Paul Natola wrote: > is this how I should change it? > > > spamd_flags=${spamd_flags:-"-c -d -r - m 20 ${spamd_pidfile}"} Try more like: spamd_flags=${spamd_flags:-"-c -d -r -m 2 ${spamd_pidfile}"} You don't have enough memory in your machine to run twenty ~30MB spamd processes. Unless you are handling hundreds of thousands of messages per day, two or three spamds is enough. -- -Chuck From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jul 6 21:48:06 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 311E116A41C for ; Wed, 6 Jul 2005 21:48:06 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from datora@gmail.com) Received: from rproxy.gmail.com (rproxy.gmail.com [64.233.170.204]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BF01343D46 for ; Wed, 6 Jul 2005 21:48:05 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from datora@gmail.com) Received: by rproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 1so14485rny for ; Wed, 06 Jul 2005 14:48:05 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; b=nkK+8MezQyzl3dKyKX0KDfGLcA548H4J2+5h8qDxOddhzrQ9ov/nlLSRsQ4F6svKDFTbPwFXBBSFBBDROT5UiLK6xI/zDD/k5Gr3WdGpvUWS7y3Wd5/UkE2RA6DmLF6fAnWaECO4jVUYA8n5LTiLRBTdqEaDAyaBj9qATEkE0w0= Received: by 10.11.117.59 with SMTP id p59mr90628cwc; Wed, 06 Jul 2005 14:48:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.11.119.32 with HTTP; Wed, 6 Jul 2005 14:48:05 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <7d672918050706144877ed83b2@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 7 Jul 2005 00:48:05 +0300 From: datora tehnika To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline Subject: not-yet-a-newbie : DL (ftp?) iso image help question X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: datora tehnika List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 06 Jul 2005 21:48:06 -0000 Hi folks -- Been reading through the email list archives & haven't seen this yet (in last 90 days or so). I think this is the best list for me to be on .. it seems to be for general questions, including raw newbie pointers. Since I have failed to DL the ISO's by myself, I don't even qualify as a newbie (yet).=20 With your help, I'd like to be. I'd really like to play with freeBSD & begin my learning curve.=20 Currently I'm trapped on a Win 2K system with an unstable cable modem connection in Riga, Latvia. By gawd/dess, I am SO READY to NEVER see win boot again .. in any flavor! I want very, VERY much to stop using windows & am aware this will be a process for the next year & two, not an ''event'' this week. So, I'm trying to DL the ISO images & have been having a very frustrating past three days. Very minor fluctuations in the local connection (including power blips) keep wrecking the ISO image DL via web browser. I'd like very much to use ftp (unless there is something better?), but have been unable to connect. Am using winsock ftp 95, but all attempts at connection are being refused (at main ftp.freebsd.org site & various european ftp mirrors). What I see as my need: how do I connect ? Anon keeps being rejected, I have not been able to locate ftp instructions at freebsd.org website; only web browser links. The ftp links (e.g. ftp://ftp.freebsd.org etc etc) don't work in WSFTP_95. It is recommended that I use FTP software w/ resume function, but no such instructions haave I seen. Searching various site keeps turning up butkis. URL with detailed newbie instructions ..? PLZ !! Does such a thing exist? I'm generally pretty clueful if I have basics to read, but am not a trained IT pro .. so a lot of lingo is pretty obscure until I can locate various definitions (don't suppose there's an acronymn dictionary ..?). If I have a place to bootstrap from, I can get up to speed .. but I feel like I've been dumped into 40 meters of open ocean while looking for the wading pool. Does a wading pool exist ..? I've had these DL'z broken about a score of times now from german, swedish, estonian & lithuanian mirror sites & wasted most of this week (it's a Riga problem with power & interent connection stability; we rarely get three hours without some small break in service here for several reasons). I have several goals I'd like to accomplish with freeBSD, but have not been able to get the ISO's so I can burn the CD's & get first installs attempted. So, using a win2K platform to begin the bootstrap into the BSD-universe, how to ftp? Or is there something better ..? I can burn an ISO to CD, not DVD. Financial resources are limited, and buying books in english is a fantasy option here .. I require on-line resources. Anyone familiar with east eurpoean economics will understand that $10 USD is a small fortune here, so please refrain from suggesting options that reqire money; I need it to eat. Some backround : from 93 through 99 I was a solaris user in a university environment, but have forgotten most of it 2000 through present as I took various jobs where winNT/2K was required. Have dabbled in linux & *BSD a few times, but it's been three years since last attempt, so there's a lot of new to learn and old to re-learn. I've got a curve ahead off me, please be patient, but I'm not real interested in anything after win2K, & linux doesn't seem to be worth a major investment of my time. I'd like to get a BSD power-desktop going so I can learn and migrate over the next six to eight months & move to running BSD servers ... still up in the air if it will be free- or netBSD or both. Dreaming of getting web & file & email servers running with strong firewall protection; strong graphics & audio capability, not interested in 3d or video rendering. The Big Picture concept is to get two multi-boot i386 systems (one dual-P-III Tyan MoBo & other AMD 1800+ K7VTA3 MoBo) going that run *BSD as the primary OS with win2K, win98 & linux (probably gentoo) as 2ndary options on multi-boot with legacy software emulated. BUT, first ... Why is the anon ftp via ftp software not working ??? I obviously must have resume capability ... I keep losing connection between 200 & 300 MB for each image for various reasons (this email panic help request generated after isoCD1 failed at 500 mb on third attempt).. grrrrrrr .... . Have tried logging into about 20 different ftp servers & various directories using ''anon'' ''anonymous'' ''public'' and my email address in various user ID's & password combo's. All have failed.=20 What is the magic combo, please? And, is there a reference URL for instructions w/ required details? &, how _should_ I have been able to find it? Very frustrating that such information was not provided with the advice to use FTP ... I'd be happy to RTFM if I had any idea of which manual & which page(s) I need to begin this. Of course, your reward will be about another 50 newbie questions from me. Feel free to flame me out at your convenience, so long as you please provide URL's with said flames. ;-) THANKYOU ! -- datora serfing the stream electric From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jul 6 21:48:12 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C0AA216A421 for ; Wed, 6 Jul 2005 21:48:12 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from leblanc@keyslapper.net) Received: from russian-caravan.cloud9.net (russian-caravan.cloud9.net [168.100.1.4]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 60BDC43D49 for ; Wed, 6 Jul 2005 21:48:12 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from leblanc@keyslapper.net) Received: from russian-caravan.cloud9.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by russian-caravan.cloud9.net (Postfix) with SMTP id C6B6515611 for ; Wed, 6 Jul 2005 17:48:11 -0400 (EDT) Received: from keyslapper.net (250-119.customer.cloud9.net [168.100.250.119]) by russian-caravan.cloud9.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0942915604 for ; Wed, 6 Jul 2005 17:48:10 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by keyslapper.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 69F411147A for ; Wed, 6 Jul 2005 17:48:10 -0400 (EDT) Received: from keyslapper.net ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (keyslapper.net [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 68470-01 for ; Wed, 6 Jul 2005 17:48:10 -0400 (EDT) Received: by keyslapper.net (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 27F50114E6; Wed, 6 Jul 2005 17:48:10 -0400 (EDT) Date: Wed, 6 Jul 2005 17:48:10 -0400 From: Louis LeBlanc To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20050706214809.GL42229@keyslapper.net> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <20050706201141.GF42229@keyslapper.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="a1QUDc0q7S3U7/Jg" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20050706201141.GF42229@keyslapper.net> X-PGP-Key: http://www.keyslapper.net/~leblanc/leblanc-at-keyslapper-net.asc User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.9i X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at keyslapper.net X-AntiVirus: Checked by Vexira Antivirus v1.5 Subject: Re: devfs permissions wierdness X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 06 Jul 2005 21:48:13 -0000 --a1QUDc0q7S3U7/Jg Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 07/06/05 04:11 PM, Louis LeBlanc sat at the `puter and typed: > I have my devfs config set up to allow certain devices to be mounted > by users in the cdusers group as follows: >=20 > own da1 root:cdusers > perm da1 0660 > own da1a root:cdusers > perm da1a 0660 > own da1c root:cdusers > perm da1c 0660 > own da1s1 root:cdusers > perm da1s1 0660 >=20 > Problem is it doesn't work unless I go in as root and manually restart > the devfs facility with `/etc/rc.d/devfs restart` >=20 > Here's what I see: >=20 > # ls -l /dev/da1* =20 > crw-r----- 1 root operator 4, 27 Jun 26 23:02 /dev/da1 > crw-r----- 1 root operator 4, 29 Jun 26 23:02 /dev/da1a > crw-r----- 1 root operator 4, 30 Jun 26 23:02 /dev/da1c > crw-r----- 1 root operator 4, 31 Jun 26 23:02 /dev/da1cs1 > crw-r----- 1 root operator 4, 28 Jun 26 23:02 /dev/da1s1 > # /etc/rc.d/devfs restart > # ls -l /dev/da1* > crw-rw---- 1 root cdusers 4, 27 Jun 26 23:02 /dev/da1 > crw-rw---- 1 root cdusers 4, 29 Jun 26 23:02 /dev/da1a > crw-rw---- 1 root cdusers 4, 30 Jun 26 23:02 /dev/da1c > crw-r----- 1 root operator 4, 31 Jun 26 23:02 /dev/da1cs1 > crw-rw---- 1 root cdusers 4, 28 Jun 26 23:02 /dev/da1s1 > #=20 >=20 > Seems like this resets itself every now and again to the > root:operator/640 permissions too, and not just on reboot. >=20 > Anyone know what I'm missing? Well, I've uncovered a little more of this. The devices are created and destroyed each time the device is connected or disconnected. When they are created, the default permissions are used, not those I've configured. If I want my devfs permissions to be available, I have to restart devfs each time I connect a USB device. I tried setting a rule to fix this in /etc/devd.conf, but I don't think it works right. I added the following: attach 100 { device-name "da[0-9]*"; action "/etc/rc.d/devfs restart"; }; I was hoping this would simply restart devfs each time I connected a /dev/da* device, but this didn't work. I then tried changing the action to an explicit devfs rule command, as follows: action "devfs rule add path da* mode 660 group cdusers"; but this didn't do any better. Executing this action from the commandline didn't do what I wanted either, so I obviously have the syntax wrong. Since the first attempt didn't work, I suspect there are other errors in the config block that cause the whole thing to be skipped. Any pointers would be appreciated. Lou --=20 Louis LeBlanc FreeBSD-at-keyslapper-DOT-net Fully Funded Hobbyist, KeySlapper Extrordinaire :) Please send off-list email to: leblanc at keyslapper d.t net Key fingerprint =3D C5E7 4762 F071 CE3B ED51 4FB8 AF85 A2FE 80C8 D9A2 Cheops' Law: Nothing ever gets built on schedule or within budget. --a1QUDc0q7S3U7/Jg Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.1 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFCzFGZr4Wi/oDI2aIRArVrAJ0efGq/Pju2C4yUeh1Gelv73TkzFgCaA88L ZkF8rsDmr9yt1Vmtd/maNMA= =6vB5 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --a1QUDc0q7S3U7/Jg-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jul 6 21:49:56 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9FC3916A41C for ; Wed, 6 Jul 2005 21:49:56 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from andreas@syndrom23.de) Received: from vs159088.vserver.de (syndrom23.de [62.75.159.88]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 14BEE43D49 for ; Wed, 6 Jul 2005 21:49:55 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from andreas@syndrom23.de) Received: from klamath.syndrom23.de ([212.204.44.203]) (authenticated bits=0) by vs159088.vserver.de (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id j66LnRRg020066; Wed, 6 Jul 2005 23:49:28 +0200 From: Andreas Kohn To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="=-mNiB3k2OElUQFxvERCqt" Date: Wed, 06 Jul 2005 23:49:39 +0200 Message-Id: <1120686579.2782.4.camel@klamath.syndrom23.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.3.4 FreeBSD GNOME Team Port Cc: mikef@ack.Berkeley.EDU Subject: FreeBSD locks up when X-windows running (LONG) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 06 Jul 2005 21:49:56 -0000 --=-mNiB3k2OElUQFxvERCqt Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi, say, do you see any messages like=20 NVRM: Xid: 13, 0000 02005600 00000056 00000c28 006500ac 00000080 (Numbers may vary, I think)=20 in your kernel messages after such a lock-up happened? I have a NVidia Geforce 2MX, and drivers >1.0.6113 create such messages. I don't have to completely reset the machine, the power-off button still works and shuts down the system via ACPI. OTOH, I'm on -CURRENT, so this may be a -CURRENT-only problem (where nvidia drivers are not supported) Regards, Andreas --=20 was macht man eigentlich auf einer linux-gamer lan ? hl server aufsetzen und freuen ? *duck* ^^ --=-mNiB3k2OElUQFxvERCqt Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Description: This is a digitally signed message part -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.1 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQBCzFHzYucd7Ow1ygwRAnF0AJ4ju/5FsAB28j8BuE5XxUhzTkDiqwCbBhqj FcNCGwAIFBD9jXfqhGw0HXo= =pRSx -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --=-mNiB3k2OElUQFxvERCqt-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jul 6 22:02:59 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EF59516A41C for ; Wed, 6 Jul 2005 22:02:59 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from kris@obsecurity.org) Received: from obsecurity.dyndns.org (CPE0050040655c8-CM00111ae02aac.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com [69.194.102.232]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8B05A43D53 for ; Wed, 6 Jul 2005 22:02:59 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from kris@obsecurity.org) Received: by obsecurity.dyndns.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id C9A22515CB; Wed, 6 Jul 2005 18:02:58 -0400 (EDT) Date: Wed, 6 Jul 2005 18:02:58 -0400 From: Kris Kennaway To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20050706220257.GB81214@xor.obsecurity.org> References: <44u0j7iyep.fsf@be-well.ilk.org> <20050706185531.GA31552@xor.obsecurity.org> <20050706191907.GC42229@keyslapper.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="oLBj+sq0vYjzfsbl" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20050706191907.GC42229@keyslapper.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Subject: Re: Weird "nice" behavior X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 06 Jul 2005 22:03:00 -0000 --oLBj+sq0vYjzfsbl Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Wed, Jul 06, 2005 at 03:19:07PM -0400, Louis LeBlanc wrote: > On 07/06/05 02:55 PM, Kris Kennaway sat at the `puter and typed: > > On Wed, Jul 06, 2005 at 02:26:22PM -0400, Lowell Gilbert wrote: > > > "Scott I. Remick" writes: > > >=20 > > > > I'm seeing something strange/annoying tonight... maybe someone coul= d help > > > > explain why it's happening. > > > >=20 > > > > FreeBSD 5.4-RELEASE > > > > > > >=20 > > > Sounds like you're blocked on I/O, not CPU. =20 > > > SCSI drives with tagged queueing would probably perform better. > >=20 > > Also look for Jeff Roberson's patch that addresses this performance > > problem, which was sent (and committed) to -current a month or so ago, > > and which I think I forwarded to -stable. >=20 > I haven't noticed this problem myself (and I'm using 5.4 RELEASE), > probably because I'm not using SCSI, but I am curious about the patch > committal. If I understand right, this patch is not currently > committed to the RELENG_5_4 branch, that not being the same as STABLE > or CURRENT. >=20 > Since this is a performance issue that many (like the OP) would > consider serious, is there any chance this patch would make it to > RELENG_5_4? Maybe, it would first need to be committed to -stable and well-tested (it's only in -current so far). Kris --oLBj+sq0vYjzfsbl Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.1 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFCzFURWry0BWjoQKURAhsdAKCsZxLNMAS1IO6ttPSElfK7yvkK6wCfRdK4 dpTr1F0BbSqjIJarnGLa+6o= =b6o4 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --oLBj+sq0vYjzfsbl-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jul 6 22:05:31 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F29FA16A41C for ; Wed, 6 Jul 2005 22:05:30 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from rjhjr@cox.net) Received: from lakermmtao08.cox.net (lakermmtao08.cox.net [68.230.240.31]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7624843D46 for ; Wed, 6 Jul 2005 22:05:30 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from rjhjr@cox.net) Received: from localhost ([68.230.186.138]) by lakermmtao08.cox.net (InterMail vM.6.01.04.00 201-2131-118-20041027) with ESMTP id <20050706220528.LBUT18139.lakermmtao08.cox.net@localhost> for ; Wed, 6 Jul 2005 18:05:28 -0400 Date: Wed, 6 Jul 2005 18:05:29 -0400 From: Bob Hall To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20050706220528.GA81550@kongemord.krig.net> Mail-Followup-To: Bob Hall , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <20050706191003.GA79388@kongemord.krig.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20050706191003.GA79388@kongemord.krig.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Subject: Re: perl-after-upgrade X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 06 Jul 2005 22:05:31 -0000 On Wed, Jul 06, 2005 at 03:10:04PM -0400, Bob Hall wrote: > I don't know squat about perl. I recently ran portupgrade, which > upgraded perl. Goose stopped working, because the location for Curses.pm > was no longer in @INC. I tried to run perl-after-upgrade, but I couldn't > get it to run. I found a thread on this in freebsd-ports. I tried "rehash" and all seems to be well. The three apps modified when running perl-after-upgrade as an sh script seem to function OK. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jul 6 22:28:12 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ABA1316A41C for ; Wed, 6 Jul 2005 22:28:12 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jnatola@familycareintl.org) Received: from mail.familycareintl.org (mail.familycareintl.org [68.167.21.154]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5EB9143D4C for ; Wed, 6 Jul 2005 22:28:12 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jnatola@familycareintl.org) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5.7226.0 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Date: Wed, 6 Jul 2005 18:28:10 -0400 Message-ID: <3A85D7EF44E1C744BF6434691F5659E948F4BD@fci-ex.FCI> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: Usage help Thread-Index: AcWCdg5FRLyKtcBmSSC0wI0wi4MIGAAA8U6w From: "Jean-Paul Natola" To: "Charles Swiger" Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: RE: Usage help X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 06 Jul 2005 22:28:12 -0000 Ok I did reduce my vm usage to 54% And it *seems* to be running a little quicker , but that always happen = after I restart sa I'll check on it later=20 Thanks you very much, I really appreciate your help -----Original Message----- From: Charles Swiger [mailto:cswiger@mac.com]=20 Sent: Wednesday, July 06, 2005 5:32 PM To: Jean-Paul Natola Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Usage help On Jul 6, 2005, at 5:26 PM, Jean-Paul Natola wrote: > is this how I should change it? > > > spamd_flags=3D${spamd_flags:-"-c -d -r - m 20 ${spamd_pidfile}"} Try more like: spamd_flags=3D${spamd_flags:-"-c -d -r -m 2 ${spamd_pidfile}"} You don't have enough memory in your machine to run twenty ~30MB =20 spamd processes. Unless you are handling hundreds of thousands of =20 messages per day, two or three spamds is enough. --=20 -Chuck From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jul 6 23:06:37 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C22F516A41C for ; Wed, 6 Jul 2005 23:06:37 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from nbco@screaming.net) Received: from heineken.flexi-surf.co.uk (smtp.flexi-surf.co.uk [62.41.128.20]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1D13543D46 for ; Wed, 6 Jul 2005 23:06:36 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from nbco@screaming.net) Received: from [10.250.250.4] ([62.55.107.17]) by heineken.flexi-surf.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id j66JidH04656; Wed, 6 Jul 2005 20:44:39 +0100 From: nbco To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, datora tehnika Date: Thu, 7 Jul 2005 00:04:19 +0100 User-Agent: KMail/1.8.1 References: <7d672918050706144877ed83b2@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <7d672918050706144877ed83b2@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200507070004.19558.nbco@screaming.net> Cc: Subject: Re: not-yet-a-newbie : DL (ftp?) iso image help question X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: nbco@screaming.net List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 06 Jul 2005 23:06:37 -0000 On Wednesday 06 July 2005 22:48, datora tehnika wrote: > Hi folks -- > So, I'm trying to DL the ISO images & have been having a very > frustrating past three days. Very minor fluctuations in the local > connection (including power blips) keep wrecking the ISO image DL via > web browser. I'd like very much to use ftp (unless there is > something better?), but have been unable to connect. Am using > winsock ftp 95, but all attempts at connection are being refused (at > main > ftp.freebsd.org site & various european ftp mirrors). > > What I see as my need: how do I connect ? Anon keeps being > rejected, I have not been able to locate ftp instructions at > freebsd.org website; only web browser links. The ftp links (e.g. > ftp://ftp.freebsd.org etc etc) don't work in WSFTP_95. It is > recommended that I use FTP software w/ resume function, but no such > instructions haave I seen. Hello there, To download the iso image, maybe try using filezilla, a very easy ftp doze client. It has reasonable resume functions: http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=21558 Or maybe get a torrent client such as Shareaza, and get the iso via P2P: http://www.shareaza.com/ In terms of documentation, the handbook is the best place to start: http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO88http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/59-1/books/handbook/ All the best .nbco From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jul 6 23:11:23 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2B1D916A41C for ; Wed, 6 Jul 2005 23:11:23 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from rsmith@xs4all.nl) Received: from smtp-vbr9.xs4all.nl (smtp-vbr9.xs4all.nl [194.109.24.29]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9974943D45 for ; Wed, 6 Jul 2005 23:11:22 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from rsmith@xs4all.nl) Received: from slackbox.xs4all.nl (slackbox.xs4all.nl [213.84.242.160]) by smtp-vbr9.xs4all.nl (8.13.3/8.13.3) with ESMTP id j66NBKBi050941; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 01:11:20 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from rsmith@xs4all.nl) Received: by slackbox.xs4all.nl (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 447446259; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 01:11:20 +0200 (CEST) Date: Thu, 7 Jul 2005 01:11:20 +0200 From: Roland Smith To: FreeBSD Questions Message-ID: <20050706231120.GA37911@slackbox.xs4all.nl> Mail-Followup-To: FreeBSD Questions , Louis LeBlanc References: <20050706201141.GF42229@keyslapper.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="huq684BweRXVnRxX" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20050706201141.GF42229@keyslapper.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i X-GPG-Fingerprint: 1A2B 477F 9970 BA3C 2914 B7CE 1277 EFB0 C321 A725 X-GPG-Key: http://www.xs4all.nl/~rsmith/pubkey.txt X-GPG-Notice: If this message is not signed, don't assume I sent it! X-Virus-Scanned: by XS4ALL Virus Scanner Cc: Louis LeBlanc Subject: Re: devfs permissions wierdness X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 06 Jul 2005 23:11:23 -0000 --huq684BweRXVnRxX Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Wed, Jul 06, 2005 at 04:11:41PM -0400, Louis LeBlanc wrote: > I have my devfs config set up to allow certain devices to be mounted > by users in the cdusers group as follows: >=20 > own da1 root:cdusers > perm da1 0660 > own da1a root:cdusers > perm da1a 0660 > own da1c root:cdusers > perm da1c 0660 > own da1s1 root:cdusers > perm da1s1 0660 >=20 > Problem is it doesn't work unless I go in as root and manually restart > the devfs facility with `/etc/rc.d/devfs restart` Configuration for devices present at boot goes into devfs.conf. For hotpluggable devices, the rules (with slightly different format) should go in devfs.rules. The manual pages I wrote for devfs.conf and devfs.rules were committed to CURRENT a couple of weeks ago. I don't know if and when they will appear in 5-STABLE. But you can find them on my FreeBSD webpage: http://www.xs4all.nl/~rsmith/freebsd/ This page has some more info about setting this up. HTH Roland --=20 R.F.Smith (http://www.xs4all.nl/~rsmith/) Please send e-mail as plain text. public key: http://www.xs4all.nl/~rsmith/pubkey.txt --huq684BweRXVnRxX Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.1 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFCzGUYEnfvsMMhpyURAvw3AKClCbnVeRaSjXYUnSIrXecO4rwB3gCglvLh RT1AN77cAQ6y/L17CdBCQZw= =EgVi -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --huq684BweRXVnRxX-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jul 6 23:22:54 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5DD4216A41C for ; Wed, 6 Jul 2005 23:22:54 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from john@day-light.com) Received: from joseph.day-light.net (gabriel.day-light.net [209.145.160.141]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1119A43D46 for ; Wed, 6 Jul 2005 23:22:53 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from john@day-light.com) Received: from w1 (unknown [10.1.5.36]) by joseph.day-light.net (Postfix) with SMTP id 88EC84F40B; Wed, 6 Jul 2005 18:22:52 -0500 (CDT) From: "John Brooks" To: , , "datora tehnika" Date: Wed, 6 Jul 2005 18:22:56 -0500 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.6604 (9.0.2911.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1441 In-Reply-To: <200507070004.19558.nbco@screaming.net> Importance: Normal Cc: Subject: RE: not-yet-a-newbie : DL (ftp?) iso image help question X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: john@day-light.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 06 Jul 2005 23:22:54 -0000 don't know who "Anon" is, but you might try "anonymous" -- John Brooks john@day-light.com > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > [mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]On Behalf Of nbco > Sent: Wednesday, July 06, 2005 6:04 PM > To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; datora tehnika > Subject: Re: not-yet-a-newbie : DL (ftp?) iso image help question > > > On Wednesday 06 July 2005 22:48, datora tehnika wrote: > > Hi folks -- > > > > So, I'm trying to DL the ISO images & have been having a very > > frustrating past three days. Very minor fluctuations in the local > > connection (including power blips) keep wrecking the ISO image DL via > > web browser. I'd like very much to use ftp (unless there is > > something better?), but have been unable to connect. Am using > > winsock ftp 95, but all attempts at connection are being refused (at > > main > > ftp.freebsd.org site & various european ftp mirrors). > > > > What I see as my need: how do I connect ? Anon keeps being > > rejected, I have not been able to locate ftp instructions at > > freebsd.org website; only web browser links. The ftp links (e.g. > > ftp://ftp.freebsd.org etc etc) don't work in WSFTP_95. It is > > recommended that I use FTP software w/ resume function, but no such > > instructions haave I seen. > > Hello there, > To download the iso image, maybe try using filezilla, a very easy ftp > doze client. It has reasonable resume functions: > http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=21558 > > Or maybe get a torrent client such as Shareaza, and get the iso via P2P: > http://www.shareaza.com/ > > In terms of documentation, the handbook is the best place to start: > http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO88http://www.freebsd.org/doc/e n_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/59-1/books/handbook/ All the best nbco _______________________________________________ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jul 6 23:35:27 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2DB7A16A41C for ; Wed, 6 Jul 2005 23:35:27 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from leblanc@keyslapper.net) Received: from russian-caravan.cloud9.net (russian-caravan.cloud9.net [168.100.1.4]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C6A7043D49 for ; Wed, 6 Jul 2005 23:35:26 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from leblanc@keyslapper.net) Received: from russian-caravan.cloud9.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by russian-caravan.cloud9.net (Postfix) with SMTP id 3670015618 for ; Wed, 6 Jul 2005 19:35:26 -0400 (EDT) Received: from keyslapper.net (250-119.customer.cloud9.net [168.100.250.119]) by russian-caravan.cloud9.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id AAF75155D3 for ; Wed, 6 Jul 2005 19:35:25 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by keyslapper.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1D33C11564; Wed, 6 Jul 2005 19:35:25 -0400 (EDT) Received: from keyslapper.net ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (keyslapper.net [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 00612-06; Wed, 6 Jul 2005 19:35:24 -0400 (EDT) Received: by keyslapper.net (Postfix, from userid 1001) id D56A611541; Wed, 6 Jul 2005 19:35:24 -0400 (EDT) Date: Wed, 6 Jul 2005 19:35:24 -0400 From: Louis LeBlanc To: FreeBSD Questions Message-ID: <20050706233524.GA1063@keyslapper.net> Mail-Followup-To: FreeBSD Questions References: <20050706201141.GF42229@keyslapper.net> <20050706231120.GA37911@slackbox.xs4all.nl> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="UlVJffcvxoiEqYs2" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20050706231120.GA37911@slackbox.xs4all.nl> X-PGP-Key: http://www.keyslapper.net/~leblanc/leblanc-at-keyslapper-net.asc User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.9i X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at keyslapper.net X-AntiVirus: Checked by Vexira Antivirus v1.5 Cc: Louis LeBlanc Subject: Re: devfs permissions wierdness X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 06 Jul 2005 23:35:27 -0000 --UlVJffcvxoiEqYs2 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 07/07/05 01:11 AM, Roland Smith sat at the `puter and typed: > On Wed, Jul 06, 2005 at 04:11:41PM -0400, Louis LeBlanc wrote: > > I have my devfs config set up to allow certain devices to be mounted > > by users in the cdusers group as follows: > >=20 > > own da1 root:cdusers > > perm da1 0660 > > own da1a root:cdusers > > perm da1a 0660 > > own da1c root:cdusers > > perm da1c 0660 > > own da1s1 root:cdusers > > perm da1s1 0660 > >=20 > > Problem is it doesn't work unless I go in as root and manually restart > > the devfs facility with `/etc/rc.d/devfs restart` >=20 > Configuration for devices present at boot goes into devfs.conf. For > hotpluggable devices, the rules (with slightly different format) should > go in devfs.rules. >=20 > The manual pages I wrote for devfs.conf and devfs.rules were committed > to CURRENT a couple of weeks ago. I don't know if and when they will > appear in 5-STABLE. But you can find them on my FreeBSD webpage: > http://www.xs4all.nl/~rsmith/freebsd/ This page has some more info about > setting this up. >=20 > HTH Excellent. This is exactly what I was looking for. My pluggable USB devices are all falling in line now. Thank you! Lou --=20 Louis LeBlanc FreeBSD-at-keyslapper-DOT-net Fully Funded Hobbyist, KeySlapper Extrordinaire :) Please send off-list email to: leblanc at keyslapper d.t net Key fingerprint =3D C5E7 4762 F071 CE3B ED51 4FB8 AF85 A2FE 80C8 D9A2 What the scientists have in their briefcases is terrifying. -- Nikita Khruschev --UlVJffcvxoiEqYs2 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.1 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFCzGq8r4Wi/oDI2aIRAlC5AJ9KNPAIw5R+RXg/FyRruAjAgmXEhACggAgy pxkauZ3QhgmG5Q9RL4NPJYo= =X3eK -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --UlVJffcvxoiEqYs2-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jul 6 23:55:14 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F1EB316A41C for ; Wed, 6 Jul 2005 23:55:14 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jnatola@familycareintl.org) Received: from mail.familycareintl.org (mail.familycareintl.org [68.167.21.154]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7C46043D49 for ; Wed, 6 Jul 2005 23:55:14 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jnatola@familycareintl.org) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5.7226.0 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Date: Wed, 6 Jul 2005 19:55:13 -0400 Message-ID: <3A85D7EF44E1C744BF6434691F5659E948F4C5@fci-ex.FCI> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: Simple question--OT Thread-Index: AcWChcYyW+kuQcoMS1aAVbB6mRiYsQAABTIw From: "Jean-Paul Natola" To: "Charles Swiger" , "Efren Bravo" Cc: freeBSD Subject: RE: Simple question--OT X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 06 Jul 2005 23:55:15 -0000 I just received this message NOW at 7:55 pm EST But I did receive it before , could this be related to my new BSD box?? Or have any others received delayed duplicates? And is says 3:51 pm -----Original Message----- From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org [mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org] On Behalf Of Charles Swiger Sent: Wednesday, July 06, 2005 3:51 PM To: Efren Bravo Cc: freeBSD Subject: Re: Simple question On Jul 6, 2005, at 3:45 PM, Efren Bravo wrote: > Hi again, I'm reading a Pdf book downloaded from freeBSD.org called =20 > FreeBSD Handbook and there I always find this references: sendmail=20 > (8) sshd(8) /etc/inetd.conf(5) <-Which is the meaning of those =20 > numbers Thanks It refers to the section of the man pages. See "man man", or "man 8 intro", or "man 5 intro", respectively. --=20 -Chuck _______________________________________________ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to = "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jul 7 00:18:45 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E7DBB16A41C for ; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 00:18:45 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jnatola@familycareintl.org) Received: from mail.familycareintl.org (mail.familycareintl.org [68.167.21.154]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 981CA43D45 for ; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 00:18:45 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jnatola@familycareintl.org) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5.7226.0 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Date: Wed, 6 Jul 2005 20:18:44 -0400 Message-ID: <3A85D7EF44E1C744BF6434691F5659E948F4C9@fci-ex.FCI> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: Usage help Thread-Index: AcWCa+OfAkC3fsZNRsqyxERTFcJ1WAABRBowAAYWycA= From: "Jean-Paul Natola" To: "Charles Swiger" Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: RE: Usage help X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 07 Jul 2005 00:18:46 -0000 Ok, I hijacked another users ram chip (256) and I put in , Running like a champ=20 -----Original Message----- From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org [mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org] On Behalf Of Jean-Paul = Natola Sent: Wednesday, July 06, 2005 5:26 PM To: Charles Swiger Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: RE: Usage help On Jul 6, 2005, at 4:16 PM, Jean-Paul Natola wrote: > Here's the situation , minute after I launch Spamassassin the =20 > machine starts > crawling, although top shows anywhere from 50 - 90 idle it just =20 > slows down > extremely , for example I'll type top and wait anywhere between 4 =20 > and 12 > seconds before it actually brings up the screen. Sounds like you are swapping. You can check top or vmstat to see for =20 sure. You can control the number of SA child processes by adding a "-=20 m NNN" flag to spamd_flags in /usr/local/etc/rc.d/sa-spamd.sh. --=20 -Chuck Excuse my ignorance ; Here's the original line spamd_flags=3D${spamd_flags:-"-c -d -r ${spamd_pidfile}"} is this how I should change it? spamd_flags=3D${spamd_flags:-"-c -d -r - m 20 ${spamd_pidfile}"} _______________________________________________ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to = "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jul 7 00:26:55 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D4E6216A41C for ; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 00:26:55 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from leblanc@keyslapper.net) Received: from russian-caravan.cloud9.net (russian-caravan.cloud9.net [168.100.1.4]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 682B643D45 for ; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 00:26:55 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from leblanc@keyslapper.net) Received: from russian-caravan.cloud9.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by russian-caravan.cloud9.net (Postfix) with SMTP id CA68A153CC for ; Wed, 6 Jul 2005 20:26:54 -0400 (EDT) Received: from keyslapper.net (250-119.customer.cloud9.net [168.100.250.119]) by russian-caravan.cloud9.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1EC0515217 for ; Wed, 6 Jul 2005 20:26:54 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by keyslapper.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BCFFD11579 for ; Wed, 6 Jul 2005 20:26:53 -0400 (EDT) Received: from keyslapper.net ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (keyslapper.net [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 90876-01 for ; Wed, 6 Jul 2005 20:26:53 -0400 (EDT) Received: by keyslapper.net (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 8C58811564; Wed, 6 Jul 2005 20:26:53 -0400 (EDT) Date: Wed, 6 Jul 2005 20:26:53 -0400 From: Louis LeBlanc To: FreeBSD Questions Message-ID: <20050707002653.GB1063@keyslapper.net> Mail-Followup-To: FreeBSD Questions Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="KFztAG8eRSV9hGtP" Content-Disposition: inline X-PGP-Key: http://www.keyslapper.net/~leblanc/leblanc-at-keyslapper-net.asc User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.9i X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at keyslapper.net X-AntiVirus: Checked by Vexira Antivirus v1.5 Cc: Subject: USB drive errors (USB 2.0 and memory drive) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 07 Jul 2005 00:26:56 -0000 --KFztAG8eRSV9hGtP Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Well, I've been in a config debug mood lately, so I'm going to go after one more issue. Rather, I'm gonna ask for help here, since I can't find the solution online. This has been happening since I managed to get ehci working without causing the kernel to freak out. I'm running 5.4 RELEASE p1 (upgrading to p4 later on tonight). The problem happens when I plug in either of my USB key devices (one being a PNY USB Disk, the other a little iPod Shuffle). I am using both ehci and ohci drivers, and AFAICT, the problem only happens with USB2.0 devices. The problem shows up in /var/log/messages as follows: Jul 6 19:41:31 keyslapper kernel: umass0: PNY USB DISK 20X, rev 2.00/1.00,= addr 2 Jul 6 19:41:32 keyslapper kernel: da0 at umass-sim0 bus 0 target 0 lun 0 Jul 6 19:41:32 keyslapper kernel: da0: < USB DISK 20X PMAP> Removable Dire= ct Access SCSI-0 device=20 Jul 6 19:41:32 keyslapper kernel: da0: 40.000MB/s transfers Jul 6 19:41:32 keyslapper kernel: da0: 962MB (1970176 512 byte sectors: 64= H 32S/T 962C) Jul 6 19:41:32 keyslapper kernel: umass0: Phase Error, residue =3D 0 Jul 6 19:41:32 keyslapper kernel: (da0:umass-sim0:0:0:0): Synchronize cach= e failed, status =3D=3D 0x4, scsi status =3D=3D 0x0 The last two lines repeat 16 or 17 times. When I try to mount these, I have no problems. No errors, and everything appears to work fine. I can move files, edit directly on the disk, whatever. So, these messages are an indication of something wierd somewhere, I just don't know if it's purely cosmetic, or if there's really something wrong and my resume is going to get eaten one of these days. I've googled for these messages, and found a lot of reports of the same problem (with few variations), but no solutions or suggestions. I tracked this error message to /usr/src/sys/cam/scsi/scsi_da.c, but I'm not sure exactly where this happens in the device initialization yet (just a quick skim through the code and no understanding of the underlying architecture or USB specs yet). Anyone have any idea? TIA Lou --=20 Louis LeBlanc FreeBSD-at-keyslapper-DOT-net Fully Funded Hobbyist, KeySlapper Extrordinaire :) Please send off-list email to: leblanc at keyslapper d.t net Key fingerprint =3D C5E7 4762 F071 CE3B ED51 4FB8 AF85 A2FE 80C8 D9A2 BASIC, n.: A programming language. Related to certain social diseases in that those who have it will not admit it in polite company. --KFztAG8eRSV9hGtP Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.1 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFCzHbNr4Wi/oDI2aIRAkgYAJ0X5vJvf+9oI6+oMKx65njTmhbwSgCgjO53 EZt1dO6+NoNtE0dzInM+tkA= =BqHb -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --KFztAG8eRSV9hGtP-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jul 7 00:34:51 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7CA0316A41C for ; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 00:34:51 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from korpuskularny@o2.pl) Received: from kogut.o2.pl (kogut.o2.pl [212.126.20.61]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2C53943D45 for ; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 00:34:50 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from korpuskularny@o2.pl) Received: from dpb190.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl (dpb190.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl [83.24.135.190]) by kogut.o2.pl (o2.pl Mailer 2.0.1) with ESMTP id 137C62EE890 for ; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 02:34:48 +0200 (CEST) Date: Thu, 7 Jul 2005 02:34:52 +0200 From: Zenobius Xavierus X-Mailer: The Bat! (v3.5.30) UNREG / CD5BF9353B3B7091 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1137466184.20050707023452@o2.pl> To: FreeBSD-question MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Kernel compiling error on FreeBSD 5.4 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Zenobius Xavierus List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 07 Jul 2005 00:34:51 -0000 Hello :-) I'm new to this list, and to FreeBSD alltogether. Today i tried to compile new Kernel and i did it 'by the book'. The problem is with compiling, i get error like: 'cc1: error: unrecognized command line option "-f"' and then errors about "no such file or directory" i tried several things: - downloading sources again - re building world and such, with no help - always the same error i searched for this problem on the net, but with no succes, so i'm writing here ;-) and now some basic info: PC is PIII 650MHz with 256RAM, i'm using Barracuda 40Gb on IDE as disk, ethernet is on Sis900. OS is FreeBSD 5.4 release May 8 2005 I'm totally new to Unix like systems, that includes FreeBSD, so please, be gentle with me ;-) I'll answear all the additional questions, if i know, how to get the info ;-) I will be thankful for any help, including links and 'look into man pages you noob' ;-) I tried everything i could think off, i'm too stupid with Unix for now :-) Best regards Piotr Baranowski From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jul 7 00:46:57 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7C2E416A41C for ; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 00:46:57 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from kris@obsecurity.org) Received: from obsecurity.dyndns.org (CPE0050040655c8-CM00111ae02aac.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com [69.194.102.232]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4146F43D45 for ; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 00:46:57 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from kris@obsecurity.org) Received: by obsecurity.dyndns.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 5EAA051206; Wed, 6 Jul 2005 20:46:56 -0400 (EDT) Date: Wed, 6 Jul 2005 20:46:56 -0400 From: Kris Kennaway To: Zenobius Xavierus Message-ID: <20050707004656.GA32044@xor.obsecurity.org> References: <1137466184.20050707023452@o2.pl> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="+QahgC5+KEYLbs62" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <1137466184.20050707023452@o2.pl> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Cc: FreeBSD-question Subject: Re: Kernel compiling error on FreeBSD 5.4 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 07 Jul 2005 00:46:57 -0000 --+QahgC5+KEYLbs62 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Thu, Jul 07, 2005 at 02:34:52AM +0200, Zenobius Xavierus wrote: > Hello :-) >=20 > I'm new to this list, and to FreeBSD alltogether. > Today i tried to compile new Kernel and i did it 'by the book'. The > problem is with compiling, i get error like: > 'cc1: error: unrecognized command line option "-f"' >=20 > and then errors about "no such file or directory" Show us the exact error and exactly what you did, we can't help if you're vague about it. Kris --+QahgC5+KEYLbs62 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.1 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFCzHt/Wry0BWjoQKURAopbAKDS7kaf18SG+Q7p5K3/mcfY9YV70QCgxFxF +VEWI0wwC4S0QFoi/GhDNrk= =X5Ow -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --+QahgC5+KEYLbs62-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jul 7 01:20:11 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8B17916A41C for ; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 01:20:11 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from korpuskularny@o2.pl) Received: from kogut.o2.pl (kogut.o2.pl [212.126.20.61]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 362BB43D48 for ; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 01:20:11 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from korpuskularny@o2.pl) Received: from dpb190.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl (dpb190.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl [83.24.135.190]) by kogut.o2.pl (o2.pl Mailer 2.0.1) with ESMTP id E2D0A2EE89A for ; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 03:20:09 +0200 (CEST) Date: Thu, 7 Jul 2005 03:20:14 +0200 From: Piotr Baranowski X-Mailer: The Bat! (v3.5.30) UNREG / CD5BF9353B3B7091 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1185062865.20050707032014@o2.pl> To: FreeBSD-question In-Reply-To: <20050707004656.GA32044@xor.obsecurity.org> References: <1137466184.20050707023452@o2.pl> <20050707004656.GA32044@xor.obsecurity.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re[2]: Kernel compiling error on FreeBSD 5.4 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Piotr Baranowski List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 07 Jul 2005 01:20:11 -0000 KK> Show us the exact error and exactly what you did, we can't help if KK> you're vague about it. what i did was: 1) cd /usr/src/sys/i386/conf 2) cp GENERIC OWIEC 3) editing OWIEC 4) config OWIEC 5) cd ../compile/OWIEC 6) make depend 7) had errors 8) make -a D depend 9) seen errors ;-) then i used second method 1) cd /usr/src 2) make buildkernel KERNCONF=OWIEC 3) had errors 4) make -a D buildkernel KERNCONF=OWIEC 5) same errors here ;-) exact errors would take very much space ;-) at first blocks of theese err's: cc: #: No such file of directory cc: parents:: No such file or directory cc: kernel: No such file or directory cc: vers.c: No such file or directory cc: harvest.o: No such file or directory cc: :: No such file or directory cc: ${NORMAL_C}: No such file or directory cc: randomdev.ln: No such file or directory cc: ${NORMAL_LINT}: No such file or directory and so on.. and after that, block of many: cc1: error: unrecognized command line option "-f" This could be problem with: 1) placing files in filesystem - wich should be ok, i did not change anything in directory tree 2) version of 'gcc' or 'make' maybe? UPDATE: i just tried to compile Midnight Commander, or any other ports program, i get errors like: fetch: #: No such file or directory => Attempting to fetch from something is name of packages something2 is like: #, parents, master-sites-default, ${AWK}, and so on KK> Kris Peter PS. Sorry Kris for priv mail, i'm from poland, it's 3:19 AM here and i'm getting sleepy ;-) i just did: replay to ;-) From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jul 7 01:35:00 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6D28F16A41C for ; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 01:35:00 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from fbsd_user@a1poweruser.com) Received: from mta9.adelphia.net (mta9.adelphia.net [68.168.78.199]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A78DC43D4C for ; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 01:34:55 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from fbsd_user@a1poweruser.com) Received: from barbish ([69.172.31.81]) by mta9.adelphia.net (InterMail vM.6.01.04.01 201-2131-118-101-20041129) with SMTP id <20050707013454.QPKN29002.mta9.adelphia.net@barbish> for ; Wed, 6 Jul 2005 21:34:54 -0400 From: "fbsd_user" To: "freebsd-questions@FreeBSD. ORG" Date: Wed, 6 Jul 2005 21:34:53 -0400 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.6604 (9.0.2911.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1409 Importance: Normal Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: Subject: Does PF firewall have stateless rules X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: fbsd_user@a1poweruser.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 07 Jul 2005 01:35:00 -0000 Does the OpenBSD Packet Filter firewall have stateless rules? Meaning, if I coded a rule to pass in for port 23 without any of the different state options coded, do I also have to code the same kind of rule to allow that port 23 packet back out like in IPFW. Or is there no stateless rules in PF? Meaning that coding a rule to pass in for port 23 without any of the different state options coded, it defaults to standard state processing and the resulting outbound packet will be allowed out because it belongs to the same session. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jul 7 02:38:03 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3A59916A41C for ; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 02:38:03 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from judmarc@fastmail.fm) Received: from out1.smtp.messagingengine.com (out1.smtp.messagingengine.com [66.111.4.25]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EE56D43D48 for ; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 02:38:01 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from judmarc@fastmail.fm) Received: from frontend2.messagingengine.com (frontend2.internal [10.202.2.151]) by frontend1.messagingengine.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id BBEC4CB7EEC; Wed, 6 Jul 2005 22:37:59 -0400 (EDT) X-Sasl-enc: trKZTE53NDIAGjHJONkbdaQlpRFW269j7Q9yp+RgpygU 1120703877 Received: from [192.168.0.3] (SPARKY-1.msns.sm.ptd.net [24.229.114.177]) by frontend2.messagingengine.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5A8B656F785; Wed, 6 Jul 2005 22:37:57 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <42CC9557.5080404@fastmail.fm> Date: Wed, 06 Jul 2005 22:37:11 -0400 From: Jud User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0+ (Windows/20050428) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Bob Willcox References: <20050706152750.GA85937@luke.immure.com> <20050706181528.GD85937@luke.immure.com> In-Reply-To: <20050706181528.GD85937@luke.immure.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: questions list Subject: Re: How do I reinstall the FreeBSD bootmanager? - next problem :-( X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 07 Jul 2005 02:38:03 -0000 Bob Willcox wrote: > On Wed, Jul 06, 2005 at 10:27:50AM -0500, Bob Willcox wrote: > Now, to my original problem (that caused me to overwrite the FreeBSD > boot manager with another that I tried called GAG). > > This particular system has a single 300 GB harddrive installed with four > Slices (partitions in the DOS vernacular) setup as follows: > > 1 Windows XP (~100 GB) > 2 Linux swap (~2 GB) > 3 Linux root (~82 GB) > 4 FreeBSD (~102 GB) > > With the FreeBSD boot manager (and with GAG) I can successfully boot > Windows and FreeBSD, but not Linux. It's as though the boot record is > not being found (geometry problems?). > > Perhaps someone out there has a suggestion on what's wrong, and what > can be done to fix it. Linux needs its own bootloader - GRUB and Lilo are the usual options. GRUB (in the BSD ports) can also boot all your other OSen. However, it takes some education to configure correctly. If you want to use GAG or the FreeBSD bootloader, then install GRUB or Lilo to Linux root, *not* to the MBR. (The installer for your Linux distro should have an option for this.) GAG or the FreeBSD bootloader will then make GRUB or Lilo boot Linux. Jud From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jul 7 02:59:57 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3285516A41F for ; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 02:59:57 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jay2xra@yahoo.com) Received: from web51605.mail.yahoo.com (web51605.mail.yahoo.com [206.190.38.210]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 9A34D43D48 for ; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 02:59:56 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jay2xra@yahoo.com) Received: (qmail 43399 invoked by uid 60001); 7 Jul 2005 02:59:55 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=hZeHow4RLaJ/Mi/lDYA5jjGY15eksmLCjV8XCSf+YRXjXYUDWvO9ea4ZlYhf21t8M/+bb15pQvt9kz+TFlHOScbOjtesTLvG8FVeQrTN5jpmbjhFcpcLhmhB97zg33HrAbs4rz7jSz0qVPWG8E0VL2q56BpKAZIYVmhsL6TlP5E= ; Message-ID: <20050707025955.43397.qmail@web51605.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [202.90.128.27] by web51605.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Wed, 06 Jul 2005 19:59:55 PDT Date: Wed, 6 Jul 2005 19:59:55 -0700 (PDT) From: Mark Jayson Alvarez To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: HELP:I'm on deployment and they've got Linksys Wireless-G usb network adapter(is there any hope?) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 07 Jul 2005 02:59:57 -0000 Good day, This will be really really quick.Is linksys wireless-g 2.4ghz usb network adapter supported by freebsd 5.4?? If so, please point me somewhere I can make it work. Thanks! --------------------------------- Sell on Yahoo! Auctions - No fees. Bid on great items. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jul 7 03:18:38 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0BC0F16A41C for ; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 03:18:38 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from freebsdutah@yahoo.com) Received: from web32403.mail.mud.yahoo.com (web32403.mail.mud.yahoo.com [68.142.207.196]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id ABDA643D46 for ; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 03:18:37 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from freebsdutah@yahoo.com) Received: (qmail 52530 invoked by uid 60001); 7 Jul 2005 03:18:37 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=2ZW3ziZSVVjesujoZaxe+AklFBVlR0yutmvDzdP/K4pHeOxfuzDelo3DP5sr0tLKpXRLgRALkBsojVJI38nPJthDu+F5xdAEMYcApBvX24wjx23XUI6UZmrKpA0xWpeyvu+UvASlHARHMVpP7Jyz4nc1v7KkBNg0lfn2k/meUig= ; Message-ID: <20050707031837.52528.qmail@web32403.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Received: from [24.10.148.25] by web32403.mail.mud.yahoo.com via HTTP; Wed, 06 Jul 2005 20:18:37 PDT Date: Wed, 6 Jul 2005 20:18:37 -0700 (PDT) From: "M. Goodell" To: FreeBSD Questions MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: imap-uw / squirrellmail / mysql / postfix / postfixadmin question X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 07 Jul 2005 03:18:38 -0000 Hello, I have successfully installed: imap-uw / squirrellmail / mysql / postfix / PostfixAdmin and have setup postfix virtual domain capability. Postfix accepts mail for virtual hosts / accounts that I configured with PostfixAdmin very well. Watching the mail log the mail arrives and is delivered to the /usr/local/virtual/ directory with no problems at all. However, the problem I have having is I cannot get SquirrellMail / imap-uw to access the mailboxes I have setup for any of the virtual domains / accounts. It keeps giving me a login error like the user does not exist. I am able to use SquirrellMail to get mail for "real" system accounts with ease. I think I need to somehow get imap-uw / squirrellmail to recognize the virtual domains & accounts but I am not sure how to do it. Can anyone shed some light on the problem ? Many thanks, Michael --------------------------------- Yahoo! Mail for Mobile Take Yahoo! Mail with you! Check email on your mobile phone. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jul 7 03:29:25 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0C3C716A41C for ; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 03:29:25 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from fbsd_user@a1poweruser.com) Received: from mta10.adelphia.net (mta10.adelphia.net [68.168.78.202]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A930443D49 for ; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 03:29:22 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from fbsd_user@a1poweruser.com) Received: from barbish ([69.172.31.81]) by mta10.adelphia.net (InterMail vM.6.01.04.01 201-2131-118-101-20041129) with SMTP id <20050707032921.ZRNO19267.mta10.adelphia.net@barbish>; Wed, 6 Jul 2005 23:29:21 -0400 From: "fbsd_user" To: "Alejandro Pulver" Date: Wed, 6 Jul 2005 23:29:17 -0400 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.6604 (9.0.2911.0) In-Reply-To: <20050703181722.6d20fe89@phobos.mars.bsd> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1409 Importance: Normal Cc: "freebsd-questions@FreeBSD. ORG" Subject: RE: help with she script X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: fbsd_user@a1poweruser.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 07 Jul 2005 03:29:25 -0000 On Sun, 3 Jul 2005 16:47:24 -0400 "fbsd_user" wrote: > This is my last coding problem. > > > target="check-state" > > # Find the rule number of the target rule where you want the doorman > # pass rules inserted before. > > ruleno=`ipfw list | sed -n -e "s/00\([0-9]*\) $target/\1/p"` > > The output of 'ipfw list' looks like this > > nnnnn a 5 position sequence rule number > blank followed by a empty single position > x-x a 10 to 80 position rule text 00010 allow ip from any to any via lo0 00015 check-state 00110 allow tcp from any to 68.168.240.26 dst-port 53 out via dc0 setup keep-state 00111 allow udp from any to 68.168.240.26 dst-port 53 out via dc0 keep-state 00120 allow udp from any to any dst-port 67 out via dc0 keep-state 00200 allow tcp from any to any dst-port 80 out via dc0 setup keep-state > > > When the rule text matches the target text I want the > first 5 position rule number to go into ruleno. > > Large rules files may use all 5 positions and then > the above code will fail to get the rule number. > Tried to remove the s/00\ but had syntax problems. > Hello, I do not have ipfw, and I do not know how the rules are supposed to be, and how they have to be processed. Could you please send me some example rules, and the expected output to be assigned to "ruleno"? Thanks and Best Regards, Ale ****************************************************** the expected output to be assigned to "ruleno" is the first 5 positions of the record which is the rule number. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jul 7 05:56:06 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EA33216A41C for ; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 05:56:06 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) Received: from mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com (mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [65.75.192.90]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 81E6943D48 for ; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 05:56:06 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) Received: from tedwin2k (nat-rtr.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [65.75.197.130]) by mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com (8.11.1/8.11.1) with SMTP id j675vFb06501; Wed, 6 Jul 2005 22:57:15 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) From: "Ted Mittelstaedt" To: "Brett Glass" , Date: Wed, 6 Jul 2005 22:56:00 -0700 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.6604 (9.0.2911.0) X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1478 In-Reply-To: <6.2.1.2.2.20050706104045.0931c6b0@localhost> Importance: Normal Cc: Subject: RE: Has this box been hacked? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 07 Jul 2005 05:56:07 -0000 Sure, FreeBSD 4.11 is very easy for a remote attacker to root. All you need to do is let a user on it setup some convenient password like the word "password" for the root user, and use the same on an easy-to-remember userID like "sam" or "bob", then put a DNS entry in for it like "porno-pictures.example.com" and post that on a popular website and it shouldn't take but a few days for it to get rooted. Other than that, give me a break, Brett. If this is a router and an out of the box install then there's no services turned on that can be rooted. Is it customary to run a webserver on your router nowadays? Give us a list of services this box is running and we can give you a better idea of how easy it might be to root. Ted >-----Original Message----- >From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org >[mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]On Behalf Of Brett Glass >Sent: Wednesday, July 06, 2005 9:42 AM >To: questions@freebsd.org >Subject: Has this box been hacked? > > >A client had a network problem, and I wanted to make sure that >his FreeBSD 4.11 >router wasn't the cause of it, so I rebooted it. I then did a >"last" command >and saw the following: > >root ttyv0 Tue Jul 5 12:01 - >12:05 (00:04) >admin ttyp0 localhost Tue Jul 5 11:57 - >11:57 (00:00) >root ttyv0 Tue Jul 5 11:49 - >12:00 (00:11) >reboot ~ Tue Jul 5 11:49 >shutdown ~ Tue Jul 5 11:47 >root ttyv0 Tue Jul 5 11:37 - >shutdown (00:10) >reboot ~ Tue Jul 5 11:36 >shutdown ~ Tue Jul 5 05:36 >shutdown ~ Tue Jul 5 11:22 > >Note the "shutdown" entry with the time 5:36 AM, which is odd >because it's out of >chronological order and the other logs don't show the typical >debug messages >at that time. Where might such an entry come from? How likely >is it that the box >has been rooted? Are there known exploits that might have been >used to root a >FreeBSD 4.11-RELEASE machine? (The only unusual activity I can >see in the logs is a >few attempts to log in as "root" via SSH. The attempts that >were logged were >not successful, but of course a skilled attacker would cover >his tracks.) > >--Brett > >_______________________________________________ >freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list >http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions >To unsubscribe, send any mail to >"freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jul 7 06:08:44 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D2CD116A41C for ; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 06:08:44 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from shinjii@virusinfo.rdksupportinc.com) Received: from mail.iinet.net.au (mail-05.iinet.net.au [203.59.3.37]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 0274543D4C for ; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 06:08:43 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from shinjii@virusinfo.rdksupportinc.com) Received: (qmail 12115 invoked from network); 7 Jul 2005 06:08:30 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO warren.shinji.nq.nu) (203.217.13.157) by mail.iinet.net.au with SMTP; 7 Jul 2005 06:08:30 -0000 From: Warren To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Thu, 7 Jul 2005 06:08:43 +0000 User-Agent: KMail/1.8.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200507070608.43905.shinjii@virusinfo.rdksupportinc.com> Subject: mounting an external USB HDD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 07 Jul 2005 06:08:44 -0000 im running FreeBSD 5.4-STABLE and am trying to do the above. umass0: Genesyslogic USB Mass Storage Device, rev 2.00/0.33, addr 2 So i presume it's ums0 and it's a NTFS filesystem ... mount_ntfs: /dev/ums0: Block device required What little i have found on the web plus man pages im afraid im missing something as it has been a lil while since doing this sort of thing. I have data on the drive i wish to take off as well as data i wish to xfer on to the drive. Any help with this is appreciated. -- Yours Sincerely Shinjii http://www.shinji.nq.nu From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jul 7 06:17:14 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4140516A41C for ; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 06:17:14 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from igorr@speechpro.com) Received: from speechpro.com (speech-tech-2.ip.PeterStar.net [81.3.190.130]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D2C9A43D53 for ; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 06:17:13 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from igorr@speechpro.com) Received: from sysadm.stc ([192.168.2.26]) by s1.stc with esmtp (Exim 4.44 (FreeBSD)) id 1DqPhA-000C0a-C2 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Thu, 07 Jul 2005 10:17:12 +0400 Message-ID: <42CCC8D5.9010302@speechpro.com> Date: Thu, 07 Jul 2005 10:16:53 +0400 From: Igor Robul User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.2 (X11/20050518) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <1137466184.20050707023452@o2.pl> <20050707004656.GA32044@xor.obsecurity.org> <1185062865.20050707032014@o2.pl> In-Reply-To: <1185062865.20050707032014@o2.pl> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Archived: Yes Subject: Re: Kernel compiling error on FreeBSD 5.4 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 07 Jul 2005 06:17:14 -0000 Piotr Baranowski wrote: >KK> Show us the exact error and exactly what you did, we can't help if >KK> you're vague about it. > >what i did was: >1) cd /usr/src/sys/i386/conf >2) cp GENERIC OWIEC >3) editing OWIEC >4) config OWIEC >5) cd ../compile/OWIEC >6) make depend >7) had errors >8) make -a D depend >9) seen errors ;-) > > 1) check that you have sources. reinstall sources from CD or recvsup. 2) check that you have correct version of C compiler. Try compile simple C program. 3) do "rm -fr /usr/obj/usr/src/sys/OWIEC" 4) then try second, and correct method >then i used second method >1) cd /usr/src >2) make buildkernel KERNCONF=OWIEC > > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jul 7 07:06:10 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E933216A41C for ; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 07:06:10 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from shinjii@virusinfo.rdksupportinc.com) Received: from mail.iinet.net.au (mail-09.iinet.net.au [203.59.3.41]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 6395243D49 for ; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 07:06:10 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from shinjii@virusinfo.rdksupportinc.com) Received: (qmail 9944 invoked from network); 7 Jul 2005 07:06:08 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO warren.shinji.nq.nu) (203.217.13.157) by mail.iinet.net.au with SMTP; 7 Jul 2005 07:06:08 -0000 From: Warren To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Thu, 7 Jul 2005 17:06:27 +0000 User-Agent: KMail/1.8.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200507071706.27858.shinjii@virusinfo.rdksupportinc.com> Subject: Copying data onto a NTFS partitioned hdd X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 07 Jul 2005 07:06:11 -0000 After some help getting this External HDD mounted in FreeBSD 5.4-STABLE .. i now find im unable to copy any of the data from my BSD partition to the NTFS hdd .. can bsd write to a NTFS drive or am i doomed to have to use winblows ? -- Yours Sincerely Shinjii http://www.shinji.nq.nu From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jul 7 07:36:00 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3ACDD16A41C for ; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 07:36:00 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from Knut.A.Nordbo@hit.no) Received: from epost04.hit.no (epost04.hit.no [128.39.198.40]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E18D443D45 for ; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 07:35:59 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from Knut.A.Nordbo@hit.no) Received: from bo11836.hit.no ([128.39.118.36]) by epost04.hit.no with esmtp (Exim 4.42) id 1DqQyZ-0005jJ-F5 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Thu, 07 Jul 2005 09:39:16 +0200 Message-ID: <42CCDB5B.9040304@hit.no> Date: Thu, 07 Jul 2005 09:35:55 +0200 From: Knut Anish Nordb User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.2 (Windows/20050317) X-Accept-Language: nb, no, nn MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Score: -3.0 (---) Subject: FreeBSD posters X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 07 Jul 2005 07:36:00 -0000 Hello I am looking for some FreeBSD posters, i tired to search for it with google but with no success :( From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jul 7 07:47:09 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D6AFB16A41C for ; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 07:47:09 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from thomas.leveille@gmail.com) Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.200]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8083443D46 for ; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 07:47:09 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from thomas.leveille@gmail.com) Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id p8so59556nzb for ; Thu, 07 Jul 2005 00:47:09 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=lnoZXqdBQolOOvsfuCkXfGX6RlDMIHSt4GyCWcyEVloRfNqPTO00Hb9YHNagms8cmLxgHf+X+tw31q489opt5BfYlKtvuncGtdGEKxmD+e8NyxBqdbyXjmV1DrcKOZfhuNmdr0NVv1z9W1Geun+pmiNYpI9IIs4CgY45OSJ03yw= Received: by 10.36.222.59 with SMTP id u59mr193750nzg; Thu, 07 Jul 2005 00:47:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.7.10 with HTTP; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 00:47:08 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Thu, 7 Jul 2005 09:47:08 +0200 From: Thomas Leveille To: Warren In-Reply-To: <200507071706.27858.shinjii@virusinfo.rdksupportinc.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline References: <200507071706.27858.shinjii@virusinfo.rdksupportinc.com> Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Copying data onto a NTFS partitioned hdd X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Thomas Leveille List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 07 Jul 2005 07:47:10 -0000 On 7/7/05, Warren wrote: > After some help getting this External HDD mounted in FreeBSD 5.4-STABLE .= . i > now find im unable to copy any of the data from my BSD partition to the N= TFS > hdd .. can bsd write to a NTFS drive or am i doomed to have to use winblo= ws ? > -- > Yours Sincerely > Shinjii > http://www.shinji.nq.nu > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.o= rg" >=20 There's a or ntfs writing is very limited under freebsd. I wouldn't try if I were you (see the man page on the link) : http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/man.cgi?query=3Dmount_ntfs&apropos=3D0&sektion= =3D0&manpath=3DFreeBSD+5.4-RELEASE+and+Ports&format=3Dhtml If you don't have a windows install, you can try using a Linux LiveCD which includes captive-ntfs. You need a few dll from windows xp but I think there's a setup which download the windows xp sp1 for you to retrieve them automatically. But it's not a viable solution if you plan to copy files to the ntfs partition on a regular basis. I assume you are in a dual boot environment. I suggest you to format the external drive in fat32 if you want it to be readable by both Windows and FreeBSD. link to captive-ntfs : http://www.jankratochvil.net/project/captive/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jul 7 07:53:01 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 950D516A41C for ; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 07:53:01 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from datora@gmail.com) Received: from rproxy.gmail.com (rproxy.gmail.com [64.233.170.204]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2DEE243D45 for ; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 07:53:01 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from datora@gmail.com) Received: by rproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 1so39426rny for ; Thu, 07 Jul 2005 00:53:00 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; b=qyofBJ4dEpUu+Cfqp+3bke37K6PO2Zdqdk5Jq0EoD6ri//ku2KjDJTw716oFgfVmc05wCk1DVBkshTJtiSRgfVnRqs1l6n6AirSzZksyqO9DVca5eZaTa4jXzUVvIEDFpgPpn1UmcPMncsC4PTDV5U3HWzYunWuaHPxDJrvHcIQ= Received: by 10.11.117.59 with SMTP id p59mr100645cwc; Thu, 07 Jul 2005 00:53:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.11.119.32 with HTTP; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 00:53:00 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <7d6729180507070053147f1ccd@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 7 Jul 2005 10:53:00 +0300 From: datora tehnika To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline Subject: ftp access Q's to ftp.freeBSD & mirrors X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: datora tehnika List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 07 Jul 2005 07:53:01 -0000 Good morning, all ! Thanks for the responses & pointers. [ DUH! sorry about sending this out wrong the first time to a1poweruser; misread the headers in the reply-to ] I realize the intitial post was long, but I did clearly indicate that the FTP attempts were numurous using quite a lot of anon vs. anonymous vs. public vs. email addy username/password combo's at several ftp sites. THE QUESTION : if I go to ftp.freebsd.org, and I attempt to login w/ ftp software as an anonymous user, PLEASE : what username am I supposed to use? What password, if any, am I suuposed to use ??=20 Thanks for the recommendations on which packages to try, but login protocol/settings am I supposed to be using? From a Windoze2K machine ..? If I'm missing that at the site, I'd apprec the URL so I can figure why I'm missing that info and not have to bother you with questions this trivial. HUGE bonus for me is if anyone can make a recommendation for mirrors in Lithuania, Estonia, Sweden, any mirror with solid access to Riga, Latvia ... I only speak English & rarely get comprehensible help from local East Europe services. I'm pretty much on my own that way here; ''send the local admin an email'' is wasted effort about 90% of the time if you don't have a specific contact. BTW I checked out the bittorrent site .. I'm on a Win2K workstation on a cable modem (DHCP cnnxn that changes at every boot/fluctuation about five-seven times/ day). I don't have access to any of the server settings they started going off about. Is there a client-only option ...? The site didn't seem to suggest that was possible. FTP seemed the best option for my circumstances, but I'm willing to consider others upon recommendation (URL pointer is enough if you've got such; I can read). Yep .. have some idea about the ports system, but obviously have a lot of reading on it it to understand it for efficient use. It's one of the features that has me interested in *BSD. My concern there is that if my connections keeps fuctuating [ sic - I like it, so I'm not correcting _that_ typo ;) ] trying to get the ISO's DL'd then how reliable will depending on ports be..? I assume there is some sort of auto-resume feature, but scarey thoughts crop up when the DL is an install instead of just a data file. I can always resume & re-do something like an ISO ... I get very tense feelings when some balck-magic software is auto-installing over the internet. I'd much rather have the source &/or bin's and be doing it off-line so I understand what's going on better. This win paradigm of 'Just Click Somewhere And It'll Be Good' is exactly what I'm trying to get away from. I had not considered using the older versions .. my assumption is that the 5.4 release would give me the best chances of success, especially trying to get running while off-line instead of getting stuck waiting on some on-line connection that may or may not give me some estimate as to how much longer it's going to take. And, really, thank you one and all for the man & install guide pointers. At least two there I didn't have yet, although I do already have freeBSD & netBSD user guides in *.pdf & have begun on those.=20 Have got through basic install chapters & read through the last 90 days of this emaillist archive over the last couple weeks before I decided to go freeBSD & attempted to grab the ISO's. I'm gonna post another or two here on other questions and ask for a critique & tweak of install strategy so I can focus on the priorities to study up on. I do not have unlimited time to 'just read everything;' I've located several thousand pages of tech writing, large sections are way beyond my comptrehension today. I'm trying to pare it down to the first couple hundred pages worth that will get me boot-strapped to a working desktop. At the end of July I may be stranded with only my off-line materials as reference for a while. I can always hit a cyber cafe to check email, but ports & large DL'z would be impossible or insanely convoluted. Best to download everything I can get right now so I can plow through it during August & September. Thanks ! =20 -- datora serfing the stream electric From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jul 7 07:59:56 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E3B4F16A41C for ; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 07:59:56 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: from nic.ach.sch.gr (nic.sch.gr [194.63.238.4]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4626643D46 for ; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 07:59:48 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: (qmail 12877 invoked by uid 207); 7 Jul 2005 07:59:45 -0000 Received: from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr by nic by uid 201 with qmail-scanner-1.21 (sophie: 3.04/2.19/3.81. Clear:RC:1(81.186.70.37):. Processed in 1.019343 secs); 07 Jul 2005 07:59:45 -0000 Received: from dialup37.ach.sch.gr (HELO gothmog.gr) ([81.186.70.37]) (envelope-sender ) by nic.sch.gr (qmail-ldap-1.03) with DES-CBC3-SHA encrypted SMTP for ; 7 Jul 2005 07:59:43 -0000 Received: from gothmog.gr (gothmog [127.0.0.1]) by gothmog.gr (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id j677xbiA037639; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 10:59:37 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: (from giorgos@localhost) by gothmog.gr (8.13.4/8.13.4/Submit) id j677xaql037637; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 10:59:36 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Date: Thu, 7 Jul 2005 10:59:31 +0300 From: Giorgos Keramidas To: Piotr Baranowski Message-ID: <20050707075930.GA36927@gothmog.gr> References: <1137466184.20050707023452@o2.pl> <20050707004656.GA32044@xor.obsecurity.org> <1185062865.20050707032014@o2.pl> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <1185062865.20050707032014@o2.pl> Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Kernel compiling error on FreeBSD 5.4 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 07 Jul 2005 07:59:57 -0000 On 2005-07-07 03:20, Piotr Baranowski wrote: > KK> Show us the exact error and exactly what you did, we can't help if > KK> you're vague about it. > > what i did was: > 1) cd /usr/src/sys/i386/conf > 2) cp GENERIC OWIEC > 3) editing OWIEC > 4) config OWIEC > 5) cd ../compile/OWIEC > 6) make depend > 7) had errors > 8) make -a D depend > 9) seen errors ;-) That's wrong. You are trying to build just a kernel, before a userland has been compiled. Use "make buildworld" and "make buildkernel", unless you know exactly what you are doing and why. > then i used second method > 1) cd /usr/src > 2) make buildkernel KERNCONF=OWIEC > 3) had errors > 4) make -a D buildkernel KERNCONF=OWIEC > 5) same errors here ;-) > > exact errors would take very much space ;-) > at first blocks of theese err's: > > cc: #: No such file of directory > cc: parents:: No such file or directory > cc: kernel: No such file or directory > cc: vers.c: No such file or directory > cc: harvest.o: No such file or directory > cc: :: No such file or directory > cc: ${NORMAL_C}: No such file or directory > cc: randomdev.ln: No such file or directory > cc: ${NORMAL_LINT}: No such file or directory > > and so on.. > and after that, block of many: > > cc1: error: unrecognized command line option "-f" Hmmm. You haven't by any chance overwritten the system version of make(1) with GNU make, right? What do you see when you try to run the command: # make --version From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jul 7 08:01:05 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1A63716A421 for ; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 08:01:05 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: from nic.ach.sch.gr (nic.sch.gr [194.63.238.4]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 41FFF43D49 for ; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 08:01:04 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: (qmail 13341 invoked by uid 207); 7 Jul 2005 08:01:03 -0000 Received: from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr by nic by uid 201 with qmail-scanner-1.21 (sophie: 3.04/2.19/3.81. Clear:RC:1(81.186.70.37):. Processed in 0.152396 secs); 07 Jul 2005 08:01:03 -0000 Received: from dialup37.ach.sch.gr (HELO gothmog.gr) ([81.186.70.37]) (envelope-sender ) by nic.sch.gr (qmail-ldap-1.03) with DES-CBC3-SHA encrypted SMTP for ; 7 Jul 2005 08:01:02 -0000 Received: from gothmog.gr (gothmog [127.0.0.1]) by gothmog.gr (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id j6780xlf037709; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 11:00:59 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: (from giorgos@localhost) by gothmog.gr (8.13.4/8.13.4/Submit) id j6780xYD037708; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 11:00:59 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Date: Thu, 7 Jul 2005 11:00:59 +0300 From: Giorgos Keramidas To: fbsd_user Message-ID: <20050707080059.GB36927@gothmog.gr> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: Cc: "freebsd-questions@FreeBSD. ORG" Subject: Re: Does PF firewall have stateless rules X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 07 Jul 2005 08:01:05 -0000 On 2005-07-06 21:34, fbsd_user wrote: > Does the OpenBSD Packet Filter firewall have stateless rules? Yes. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jul 7 08:06:14 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2CC2F16A41C for ; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 08:06:14 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: from nic.ach.sch.gr (nic.sch.gr [194.63.238.4]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 503B543D46 for ; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 08:06:13 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: (qmail 15315 invoked by uid 207); 7 Jul 2005 08:06:12 -0000 Received: from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr by nic by uid 201 with qmail-scanner-1.21 (sophie: 3.04/2.19/3.81. Clear:RC:1(81.186.70.37):. 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Not exactly. You should also see a da[0-9]+ device appear at about the same time the umass0 mass storage device connects: # umass0: detached # umass0: USB Flash Disk, rev 2.00/2.00, addr 2 # da0: Removable Direct Access SCSI-2 device # da0: 40.000MB/s transfers # da0: 250MB (512000 512 byte sectors: 64H 32S/T 250C) Then you can look in /dev for da0* devices. If the disk has partitions, they will appear automatically as da0s1, da0s2, etc. - Giorgos From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jul 7 08:20:22 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4681116A41C for ; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 08:20:22 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from bsd@bathnetworks.com) Received: from lmail.bathnetworks.co.uk (mail.bathnetworks.com [84.92.24.252]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 730E743D4C for ; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 08:20:04 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from bsd@bathnetworks.com) Received: (qmail 1598 invoked by uid 510); 7 Jul 2005 08:21:02 +0000 Received: from 84.92.24.252 by lmail.bathnetworks.co.uk (envelope-from , uid 508) with qmail-scanner-1.24-st-qms (clamdscan: 0.86.1/957. spamassassin: 3.0.2. perlscan: 1.24-st-qms. Clear:RC:0(84.92.24.252):SA:0(-2.0/5.0):. 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(bsd@bathnetworks.com@84.92.24.252) by lmail.bathnetworks.co.uk with SMTP; 7 Jul 2005 08:20:58 +0000 From: Robert Slade To: datora tehnika In-Reply-To: <7d6729180507070053147f1ccd@mail.gmail.com> References: <7d6729180507070053147f1ccd@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain Message-Id: <1120724458.1338.9.camel@lmail.bathnetworks.co.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Ximian Evolution 1.4.6 (1.4.6-2) Date: Thu, 07 Jul 2005 08:20:58 +0000 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Subject: Re: ftp access Q's to ftp.freeBSD & mirrors X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 07 Jul 2005 08:20:22 -0000 On Thu, 2005-07-07 at 07:53, datora tehnika wrote: > Good morning, all ! > > Thanks for the responses & pointers. > > [ DUH! sorry about sending this out wrong the first time to > a1poweruser; misread the headers in the reply-to ] > > I realize the intitial post was long, but I did clearly indicate that > the FTP attempts were numurous using quite a lot of anon vs. anonymous > vs. public vs. email addy username/password combo's at several ftp > sites. > > THE QUESTION : if I go to ftp.freebsd.org, and I attempt to login w/ > ftp software as an anonymous user, PLEASE : what username am I > supposed to use? What password, if any, am I suuposed to use ?? > Thanks for the recommendations on which packages to try, but login > protocol/settings am I supposed to be using? From a Windoze2K machine > ..? If I'm missing that at the site, I'd apprec the URL so I can > figure why I'm missing that info and not have to bother you with > questions this trivial. > Datora Ftp mirrors etc can be found at http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/mirrors-ftp.html AFAK, logon is anonymous - pwd your e-name address. You can also get the CD's from a number of sources eg ebay. They are quite cheap and may save you some grief. The sellers are not allowed to charge for the Software only for producing the CDs. Another way is to use a download manager there are a number of free ones for W2K. You can leave it running and if the connection is lost, it will restart from where it lost the connection from. Here is an example: http://www.gozilla.com/ Hope this helps Rob From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jul 7 09:26:40 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9F73B16A41C for ; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 09:26:40 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from datora@gmail.com) Received: from rproxy.gmail.com (rproxy.gmail.com [64.233.170.206]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D588A43D5E for ; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 09:26:39 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from datora@gmail.com) Received: by rproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 34so41615rns for ; Thu, 07 Jul 2005 02:26:39 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=XLYzSyreSYHoP6z7HKD0c75SDpq+6ratSeLWoMzIDucJdBGRCPCNEK30OjXOLTd54Ig20ilfSvNyYskuIh3pZw4YcNytwouADFINIUL1AwoYMGs+0EKCGce+nOniawHwHkNujtOnopvUMzxpr5xcAtQe2kAS3qSuQr05d6ogZdg= Received: by 10.11.33.24 with SMTP id g24mr52577cwg; Thu, 07 Jul 2005 02:26:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.11.119.32 with HTTP; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 02:26:39 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <7d6729180507070226592ac04c@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 7 Jul 2005 12:26:39 +0300 From: datora tehnika To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <1120724458.1338.9.camel@lmail.bathnetworks.co.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline References: <7d6729180507070053147f1ccd@mail.gmail.com> <1120724458.1338.9.camel@lmail.bathnetworks.co.uk> Subject: Re: ftp access Q's to ftp.freeBSD & mirrors X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: datora tehnika List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 07 Jul 2005 09:26:40 -0000 On 7/7/05, Robert Slade wrote: > > Ftp mirrors etc can be found at > http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/mirrors-ftp.htm= l Yep ... thanks. I've got the web pages for the mirrors, several at this time. Trying to establish the connection with something other than a web browser is the problem. OKay -- using WS FTP lite, I enter in the host name/address of ftp.freebsd.org (have also used a couple dozen specifc directories here & at various mirror sites).User ID is ''anonymous'' with no password entered (have also used my email address as the password; same result). RESULT : > WINSOCK.DLL: WinSock 2.0 > WS_FTP LE 5.08 2000.01.13, Copyright (c) 1992-2000 Ipswitch, Inc. > - - > ! Can't get "ftp.freebsd.org/" host entry > ! Connection failed ftp.freebsd.org/ Connection type is binary, port is standard 21, using passive transfer. So, using one of many mirrors I've tried as another example, the problem remains : > WINSOCK.DLL: WinSock 2.0 > WS_FTP LE 5.08 2000.01.13, Copyright (c) 1992-2000 Ipswitch, Inc. > - - > ! Can't get "ftp://ftp.lt.FreeBSD.org/pub/FreeBSD/" host entry > ! Connection failed ftp://ftp.lt.FreeBSD.org/pub/FreeBSD/ ftp://ftp.lt.FreeBSD.org/pub/FreeBSD/ or ftp.lt.FreeBSD.org/pub/FreeBSD yeilda same error. So, willing to go with another FTP software. I realize this old WSFTP is just that .. old, but I've never had it fail me before ... so I'm puzzled. Knowing why this isn't working is pretty important.=20 Shooting around in the dark at ''maybe'' is really just wasting time required elsewhere. As posted yesterday, the http:// connections keep breaking without the ability to resume an interrupted transfer. This is a local problem due to power fluctuations and flaky cable service. An ISO DL takes an estimated hour per 100 MB ... so the 550 CD1 ISO for freeBSD is ~5 1/2 hour DL, up to 6 1/2 hours. I have actually managed partial DL'z up to 300 & 500 MB in the last several days ... but, when they are interrupted, I have to begin from zero again using a web browser. So, drop back & punt: use ftp software that has a resume function, as recommended at http://freebsd.org. This is what FTP is designed to do. Why can my standard ftp software not ''get'' the host entry ? What am I doing wrong here ? Is this some *BSD-windows configuration war ...? I've used WSFTP for a decade now to connect to *nix servers from Win9*/NT/2K and never had this issue. So, thanks for the gozilla.com link; I'll check it out. It just seems cludgy to install plugins to a web browser when FTP should work & should work faster/ more efficiently. Sorry this thread got re-posted ... I've never run across a mail listserv that didn't automatically take a reply-to back to the listserv, so I had to repost the question under a different subject.=20 Bizarre setting I'm sure I'll find out the 'why' about some day ... Other caveat .. I am based in Riga, Latvia. I could write a small book about it, but let's just summarize that buying anything over the internet from here is largely a waste of money and time. An ebay transaction for a ISO images would chew up weeks and cost stupid amounts of money. $10 USD is a food budget for an entire week here, not to be thrown away lightly. I should be able to connect via ftp & have both ISO's for freeBSD 5.4 in about 12 hours time, tops, if I can just find out the magic settings to make the ftp servers show up in my ftp software. Besides, I foresee the need to have to ftp from these sites for quite a number of items as I need them. Getting into two and three week shipping/payment negotiations each time i need something (or _might_ need it & have to DL it to find out ...) is really a rather silly methodology. I'm having a hard time believing that nobody on this list has established an ftp connection to one of these servers. Understanding what I'm doing wrong here seems to be the best approach. ''throw money at someone'' ''click here'' ''install that'' & pray are the sorts of solutions that *BSD is supposed to NOT be about. Have I misunderstood that? -- datora serfing the stream electric From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jul 7 09:32:02 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E219716A41C for ; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 09:32:02 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from sympa-request@mandrivalinux.org) Received: from smtp.mandrivasoft.com (smtp.mandrivasoft.com [212.85.147.125]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A1D9943D45 for ; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 09:32:02 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from sympa-request@mandrivalinux.org) Received: from smtp.mandrax.org (smtp.mandrax.org [212.85.147.169]) by smtp.mandrivasoft.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id ADDEC11D30C for ; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 10:42:46 +0200 (CEST) Received: by smtp.mandrax.org (Postfix, from userid 500) id B5BE056A05; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 11:32:02 +0200 (CEST) From: SYMPA To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-Id: <20050707093202.B5BE056A05@smtp.mandrax.org> Date: Thu, 7 Jul 2005 11:32:02 +0200 (CEST) Sender: sympa-request@mandrivalinux.org Subject: (no subject) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 07 Jul 2005 09:32:03 -0000 Your message for list changelog has been forwarded to editor(s) From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jul 7 09:33:21 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0FADF16A41C for ; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 09:33:21 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from freebsd@gizm0.org) Received: from gizm0.org (gizm0.org [212.114.209.25]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A66E043D46 for ; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 09:33:20 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from freebsd@gizm0.org) Received: from [10.0.0.122] (unknown [10.0.0.122]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by gizm0.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 16901A10099; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 11:33:19 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <42CCF6C8.2000405@gizm0.org> Date: Thu, 07 Jul 2005 11:32:56 +0200 From: Steven Enderle User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.7.5) Gecko/20050203 X-Accept-Language: de-de, de, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Warren , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <200507071706.27858.shinjii@virusinfo.rdksupportinc.com> In-Reply-To: <200507071706.27858.shinjii@virusinfo.rdksupportinc.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: Subject: Re: Copying data onto a NTFS partitioned hdd X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 07 Jul 2005 09:33:21 -0000 Warren wrote: >After some help getting this External HDD mounted in FreeBSD 5.4-STABLE .. i >now find im unable to copy any of the data from my BSD partition to the NTFS >hdd .. can bsd write to a NTFS drive or am i doomed to have to use winblows ? > > You are right, ntfs with freebsd is not writeable. You could switch to smaller FAT32 partitions, thats how i do it. Regards Steven -- ++ message delivered by gizm0.org ++ free webmail - imap, pop3, ssl secured From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jul 7 09:40:29 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9CEDB16A41C for ; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 09:40:29 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from xfb52@dial.pipex.com) Received: from smtp-out4.blueyonder.co.uk (smtp-out4.blueyonder.co.uk [195.188.213.7]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 28EE743D48 for ; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 09:40:28 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from xfb52@dial.pipex.com) Received: from [82.41.37.55] ([82.41.37.55]) by smtp-out4.blueyonder.co.uk with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.6713); Thu, 7 Jul 2005 10:41:10 +0100 Message-ID: <42CCF88B.60504@dial.pipex.com> Date: Thu, 07 Jul 2005 10:40:27 +0100 From: Alex Zbyslaw User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-GB; rv:1.7.8) Gecko/20050530 X-Accept-Language: en, en-us, pl MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Andreas Kohn References: <1120686579.2782.4.camel@klamath.syndrom23.de> In-Reply-To: <1120686579.2782.4.camel@klamath.syndrom23.de> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-OriginalArrivalTime: 07 Jul 2005 09:41:10.0943 (UTC) FILETIME=[021562F0:01C582D8] Cc: mikef@ack.Berkeley.EDU, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD locks up when X-windows running (LONG) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 07 Jul 2005 09:40:29 -0000 Andreas Kohn wrote: >Hi, > >say, do you see any messages like > >NVRM: Xid: 13, 0000 02005600 00000056 00000c28 006500ac 00000080 > >(Numbers may vary, I think) >in your kernel messages after such a lock-up happened? > > AFAIK this is not a FreeBSD-specific problem. I think this URL is right but the site isn't responding at the moment. I don't know if there is a solution there or not. There were some interesting comments about running glxgears before running a game making things better, if that's the kind of thing you are doing (gaming, that is), but I never got to the end of the thread. Most people reported the problem on much newer cards but the Xid is the classic symptom. http://www.nvnews.net/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=49117 You could always try the nv drivers. My Ge2 worked fine on them for years, while my 6600 suffered corruption at least once a day. --Alex From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jul 7 10:03:59 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4DF3C16A41C for ; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 10:03:59 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from datora@gmail.com) Received: from rproxy.gmail.com (rproxy.gmail.com [64.233.170.196]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DC32143D45 for ; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 10:03:58 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from datora@gmail.com) Received: by rproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 34so43013rns for ; Thu, 07 Jul 2005 03:03:58 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=jAyeza6SS7qN6UdNQb5KaizOQiZYLZ9gWMj7HljUL51tudkR9iBKBIUmyPtRhbx7JfmjOPAKc65m+aTYI9n2Jeaxk8KzttFdIfUSPcWhtKMrH9xplDbSq5AYbnPFMLzY1mjdCKNPMu8YuO9I9T5sBjTqQ29BWnTOE8P1iwJ7qs0= Received: by 10.11.117.59 with SMTP id p59mr102405cwc; Thu, 07 Jul 2005 03:03:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.11.119.32 with HTTP; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 03:03:58 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <7d6729180507070303d921631@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 7 Jul 2005 13:03:58 +0300 From: datora tehnika To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <42CCF6C8.2000405@gizm0.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline References: <200507071706.27858.shinjii@virusinfo.rdksupportinc.com> <42CCF6C8.2000405@gizm0.org> Subject: Re: Copying data onto a NTFS partitioned hdd X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: datora tehnika List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 07 Jul 2005 10:03:59 -0000 Two days ago I was trying to pre-emptively solve this problem. A couple quickie comments that may help out at some point, plus related questions : I tried to format a new hard drive using Win2K, knowing there were issues w/ NTFS under *BSD. So, decided to format using FAT32 under disk management. It failed three times (only after wasting 30 mins or so ''formatting''). First, I selected 512 byte sectors .. they were ''too small.'' Then I went with ''default,'' but then the volume size was ''too large.'' (for a 40 GB drive, the identical twin of which served as a Win98 drive without a blurp). Last FAT32 effort I chose teh remaining 1024 byte sector option with same result as 512 byte option. Of course, win2K was too stupid & lazy to evaluate these problems prior to committing to format & actually pretending to do it ... So, I am assuming that for future, I would use Win98 to create a FAT32 data partition that can be shared by Win/linux & *BSD. Or, possibly *BSD or linux to create such .. but I have my doubts regarding Win being able to access such. So, the question portion I wasn't able to answer through various google searches : Win insisted on ''writing a signature'' to the new drive (not used to install an OS .. just format as one large volume for data storage). I finally relented & let it since I was unable to find out what such a ''signature'' is and, more importantly, couldn't locate a utility that would allow me to write a signature (or its equivalent) to the drive. Will this affect my ability to let *BSD read the drive later ..? What is this ''signature'' thingie, and what is the lingo for it under linux/*BSD? Is there a utility that I can run under Win or from a bootable floppy that would let me intitate a virgin drive ? Maybe even partition & format in a ''universal'' FAT32 for DOS/Win/*nix/*BSD to all access for dfata read/writes? Other question on this is that I understand that linux has solutions to read/write to ntfs. Should *BSD not be able to emulate enough linux to use such a function ..? Linux & Win emulation are sold pretty hard as one of the positive points about *BSD. I was going with the FAT32 solution to simplify my life, not because I thought it was required. BTW, I had to format as NTFS since Win2K is my only option for the moment; first time I ever tried to use WinNT to format a volume or drive as FAT32 & was strikingly unsurprised when it failed at such a banal task. I am now operating under the assumption I must reformat later to use with *nix/*BSD, so this thread is quite interesting to me so I can do it right the next time .. hopefully within a week to ten days. -- datora serfing the stream electric From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jul 7 10:26:26 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 769DA16A41C for ; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 10:26:26 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from simon@comsys.ntu-kpi.kiev.ua) Received: from comsys.ntu-kpi.kiev.ua (comsys.ntu-kpi.kiev.ua [195.245.194.142]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2480443D45 for ; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 10:26:24 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from simon@comsys.ntu-kpi.kiev.ua) Received: from pm514-9.comsys.ntu-kpi.kiev.ua (pm514-9.comsys.ntu-kpi.kiev.ua [10.18.54.109]) (authenticated bits=0) by comsys.ntu-kpi.kiev.ua (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id j67AWq61067965 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 13:32:53 +0300 (EEST) Received: by pm514-9.comsys.ntu-kpi.kiev.ua (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 5C8F4B0; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 13:24:51 +0300 (EEST) Date: Thu, 7 Jul 2005 13:24:51 +0300 From: Andrey Simonenko To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20050707102451.GA222@pm514-9.comsys.ntu-kpi.kiev.ua> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV 0.82/969/Wed Jul 6 11:53:40 2005 on comsys.ntu-kpi.kiev.ua X-Virus-Status: Clean Subject: Electrical circuits simulator X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 07 Jul 2005 10:26:26 -0000 Hello all, What do you recommend to use for electrical circuits simulating? I need such software for educational purposes. I found Oregano in ports/cad, but may be I missed something and there is alternative with the same or better level of features as Oregano. Thanks. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jul 7 11:03:09 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 36CE816A41C for ; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 11:03:09 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from fbsd_user@a1poweruser.com) Received: from mta9.adelphia.net (mta9.adelphia.net [68.168.78.199]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BCE0243D49 for ; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 11:03:08 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from fbsd_user@a1poweruser.com) Received: from barbish ([69.172.31.81]) by mta9.adelphia.net (InterMail vM.6.01.04.01 201-2131-118-101-20041129) with SMTP id <20050707110307.GZGM29002.mta9.adelphia.net@barbish>; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 07:03:07 -0400 From: "fbsd_user" To: "datora tehnika" , Date: Thu, 7 Jul 2005 07:03:02 -0400 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.6604 (9.0.2911.0) X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1409 In-Reply-To: <7d6729180507070226592ac04c@mail.gmail.com> Importance: Normal Cc: Subject: RE: ftp access Q's to ftp.freeBSD & mirrors X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: fbsd_user@a1poweruser.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 07 Jul 2005 11:03:09 -0000 Hay I use the same thing and just went to ftp.lt.FreeBSD.org & ftp.Freebsd.org with no problem. WINSOCK.DLL: Microsoft wsock32.dll, ver2.2, 32bit of Jun 7 2000, at 21:34:15. WS_FTP95 LE 4.50 97.05.17, Copyright © 1992-1997 Ipswitch, Inc. In the session properities I use this. Host name ftp.lt.freebsd.org host type automatic detect user id I check mark the anonymous box Password spam@noisp.com then click on OK button and it loges me into the server just fine. Now about the subject of long download times because of liminted bandwidth. WS_FTP95 does not have resume ability. I have T1 connection to public internet so not a issue for me. Using MS/Windows to get ISO CD images First of all the .ISO file extension is not supported in the native MS/Windows world. Sure you can download it from one of the FBSD FTP sites and burn it to a CD using MS/Windows, but you end up with a data disk where the ISO file is a single file, not a bootable CD containing the FBSD directory tree which you need to install from. The second major problem is you need a fast Internet connection, (IE: ISDN, DSL, CABLE) to download over. Using a 56K modem will take over 28 hours per CD if you are lucky enough that your ISP does not cut you off or the FTP server does not get busy and suspend your session. To resolve this problem of using a MS/Windows box to obtain the FBSD install CDROM image you will need a MS/Windows FTP program that can restart the ftp download where it left off at, if it gets terminated during the initial download. I used SMARTFTP from www.smartftp.com. Then you need a MS/Windows program that can burn ISO files to CDROM. I used Nero from www.nero.com. The downloaded demos from these sites work just fine to do what you have to do to create your FBSD mini install CDROM. Uninstall them, but keep the downloaded install zip files for them and next time you need to retrieve a FBSD .ISO file, just reinstall to get a new 30 day demo. -----Original Message----- From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org [mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]On Behalf Of datora tehnika Sent: Thursday, July 07, 2005 5:27 AM To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: ftp access Q's to ftp.freeBSD & mirrors On 7/7/05, Robert Slade wrote: > > Ftp mirrors etc can be found at > http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/mirrors-ft p.html Yep ... thanks. I've got the web pages for the mirrors, several at this time. Trying to establish the connection with something other than a web browser is the problem. OKay -- using WS FTP lite, I enter in the host name/address of ftp.freebsd.org (have also used a couple dozen specifc directories here & at various mirror sites).User ID is ''anonymous'' with no password entered (have also used my email address as the password; same result). RESULT : > WINSOCK.DLL: WinSock 2.0 > WS_FTP LE 5.08 2000.01.13, Copyright (c) 1992-2000 Ipswitch, Inc. > - - > ! Can't get "ftp.freebsd.org/" host entry > ! Connection failed ftp.freebsd.org/ Connection type is binary, port is standard 21, using passive transfer. So, using one of many mirrors I've tried as another example, the problem remains : > WINSOCK.DLL: WinSock 2.0 > WS_FTP LE 5.08 2000.01.13, Copyright (c) 1992-2000 Ipswitch, Inc. > - - > ! Can't get "ftp://ftp.lt.FreeBSD.org/pub/FreeBSD/" host entry > ! Connection failed ftp://ftp.lt.FreeBSD.org/pub/FreeBSD/ ftp://ftp.lt.FreeBSD.org/pub/FreeBSD/ or ftp.lt.FreeBSD.org/pub/FreeBSD yeilda same error. So, willing to go with another FTP software. I realize this old WSFTP is just that .. old, but I've never had it fail me before ... so I'm puzzled. Knowing why this isn't working is pretty important. Shooting around in the dark at ''maybe'' is really just wasting time required elsewhere. As posted yesterday, the http:// connections keep breaking without the ability to resume an interrupted transfer. This is a local problem due to power fluctuations and flaky cable service. An ISO DL takes an estimated hour per 100 MB ... so the 550 CD1 ISO for freeBSD is ~5 1/2 hour DL, up to 6 1/2 hours. I have actually managed partial DL'z up to 300 & 500 MB in the last several days ... but, when they are interrupted, I have to begin from zero again using a web browser. So, drop back & punt: use ftp software that has a resume function, as recommended at http://freebsd.org. This is what FTP is designed to do. Why can my standard ftp software not ''get'' the host entry ? What am I doing wrong here ? Is this some *BSD-windows configuration war ...? I've used WSFTP for a decade now to connect to *nix servers from Win9*/NT/2K and never had this issue. So, thanks for the gozilla.com link; I'll check it out. It just seems cludgy to install plugins to a web browser when FTP should work & should work faster/ more efficiently. Sorry this thread got re-posted ... I've never run across a mail listserv that didn't automatically take a reply-to back to the listserv, so I had to repost the question under a different subject. Bizarre setting I'm sure I'll find out the 'why' about some day ... Other caveat .. I am based in Riga, Latvia. I could write a small book about it, but let's just summarize that buying anything over the internet from here is largely a waste of money and time. An ebay transaction for a ISO images would chew up weeks and cost stupid amounts of money. $10 USD is a food budget for an entire week here, not to be thrown away lightly. I should be able to connect via ftp & have both ISO's for freeBSD 5.4 in about 12 hours time, tops, if I can just find out the magic settings to make the ftp servers show up in my ftp software. Besides, I foresee the need to have to ftp from these sites for quite a number of items as I need them. Getting into two and three week shipping/payment negotiations each time i need something (or _might_ need it & have to DL it to find out ...) is really a rather silly methodology. I'm having a hard time believing that nobody on this list has established an ftp connection to one of these servers. Understanding what I'm doing wrong here seems to be the best approach. ''throw money at someone'' ''click here'' ''install that'' & pray are the sorts of solutions that *BSD is supposed to NOT be about. Have I misunderstood that? -- datora serfing the stream electric _______________________________________________ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jul 7 11:07:59 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6596116A41C for ; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 11:07:59 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from igorr@speechpro.com) Received: from speechpro.com (speech-tech-2.ip.PeterStar.net [81.3.190.130]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 11BFE43D46 for ; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 11:07:58 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from igorr@speechpro.com) Received: from sysadm.stc ([192.168.2.26]) by s1.stc with esmtp (Exim 4.44 (FreeBSD)) id 1DqUEU-000Jwn-NI; Thu, 07 Jul 2005 15:07:54 +0400 Message-ID: <42CD0CF7.6030703@speechpro.com> Date: Thu, 07 Jul 2005 15:07:35 +0400 From: Igor Robul User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.2 (X11/20050518) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: datora tehnika References: <200507071706.27858.shinjii@virusinfo.rdksupportinc.com> <42CCF6C8.2000405@gizm0.org> <7d6729180507070303d921631@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <7d6729180507070303d921631@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Archived: Yes Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Copying data onto a NTFS partitioned hdd X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 07 Jul 2005 11:07:59 -0000 datora tehnika wrote: >''too small.'' Then I went with ''default,'' but then the volume size >was ''too large.'' (for a 40 GB drive, the identical twin of which > > This is known problem for Windows 2000 DiskManager. You can create FAT32 with Win98, Partition Magic, Linux, FreeBSD. Windows 2000 will be able to access disk. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jul 7 11:20:31 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2A30D16A41C for ; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 11:20:31 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from sharkwang@gmail.com) Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.201]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C03F343D4C for ; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 11:20:30 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from sharkwang@gmail.com) Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 49so251502wri for ; Thu, 07 Jul 2005 04:20:30 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=NqE2IT0clbo26yyqGP5fcNO45v9MiAKJjpu1/ZyrNFNCEbFiyR8p28gPTejJhhxDJfelZA62k6lOCGVJ/s3bxpITKxHisB/Gi7MwGwF1bWcBtb3SCTf/r//lgHM87RPEJ4JAhfI/tByEPRSAhmjFTSKEr/dPxjtA5KYGW+5Z40Y= Received: by 10.54.19.44 with SMTP id 44mr30377wrs; Thu, 07 Jul 2005 04:20:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.19.45 with HTTP; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 04:20:30 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <1e22f3590507070420376112f@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 7 Jul 2005 19:20:30 +0800 From: Shark Wang To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <20050707111924.950B043D58@mx1.FreeBSD.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline References: <20050707111924.950B043D58@mx1.FreeBSD.org> Subject: Did we must put the mounted partition '/' and '/boot' in the same slice ? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Shark Wang List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 07 Jul 2005 11:20:31 -0000 Today, I heard something on the partition policy for FreeBSD. Someone said that we must put the mounted partition '/' and '/boot' in the same slice, otherwise, the System will not boot up ! Can someone give me a confirmed anwser? thanks! From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jul 7 11:42:25 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 725F716A41C for ; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 11:42:25 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from datora@gmail.com) Received: from rproxy.gmail.com (rproxy.gmail.com [64.233.170.206]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DCD6C43D49 for ; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 11:42:24 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from datora@gmail.com) Received: by rproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 40so46630rnz for ; Thu, 07 Jul 2005 04:42:24 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=Ul/xEWSxg8z1Pm69ygZg9FsqWjwjb5Zc6e696FXUFI2mIdmgJcufWmSmCXs8F9ysQCysfhKNWkLAU2VOe8f2xfOLOLVGWjdt4/+1E+YVWAXSL8PC2xJDmff9AmERznJj0eozhjQprA4tPKhPtyoR2eiYutxM5JMeYR05mtUETxY= Received: by 10.11.55.24 with SMTP id d24mr103689cwa; Thu, 07 Jul 2005 04:42:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.11.119.32 with HTTP; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 04:42:24 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <7d672918050707044238c064fd@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 7 Jul 2005 14:42:24 +0300 From: datora tehnika To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline References: <7d6729180507070226592ac04c@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: ftp access Q's to ftp.freeBSD & mirrors X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: datora tehnika List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 07 Jul 2005 11:42:25 -0000 THANK YOU ! I have no idea why this would not work before .. exactly why I was whining so loudly here. This should have been a no-brain try & succeed once thing. I just now tried ftp.lt.freebsd.org, spam@noisp.com as the password and in like flynn. Bizarre ... the email address I am posting this from was not accepted !! Yep .. I knew WSFTP95 does not have resume; sorry about the confusion in my posts. I was using this to establish an FTP connection to check that I could & to get a speed test out of it for time estimates at different sites. It's such an old and reliable application & I know it pretty well I didn't want to confuse myself (moreso than I usually am!) by bumping around several new interfaces. THX for the smartFTP link; I'm collecting a whole set of freebie ftp utilities; resume was not so critical before as it has suddenly become. I haven't DL'd anything larger than about 90 or 100 MB in the last two years. My cable cnnxn currently runs about 100 MB/ hour with some varience (~29 - 32 bps is norm) ... so, y'all will be crazed ... er, graced with my newbie install attempts Real Soon Now; I expect by Monday depending on other things I am trying to get done. I know all about burning an ISO with something like nero ... that is exactly what I use; I have a fully licensed personal copy of 5.5 that hasn't failed me yet for many IOS's, including linux installs. Nero rocks ! I have ftp. I am happy. Paldies! ;-) -- datora Successful session established : WINSOCK.DLL: WinSock 2.0 WS_FTP LE 5.08 2000.01.13, Copyright (c) 1992-2000 Ipswitch, Inc. - - connecting to 213.197.128.70:21 Connected to 213.197.128.70 port 21 220 ocean.cs.microlink.lt FTP server (Version 6.00LS) ready. USER anonymous 331 Guest login ok, send your email address as password. PASS (hidden) 230 Guest login ok, access restrictions apply. PWD 257 "/" is current directory. SYST 215 UNIX Type: L8 Version: BSD-199506 Host type (S): UNIX (standard) PASV 227 Entering Passive Mode (213,197,128,70,219,158) connecting to 213.197.128.70:56222 - - connecting to 213.197.128.70:56222 Connected to 213.197.128.70 port 56222 LIST 150 Opening ASCII mode data connection for '/bin/ls'. Received 402 bytes in 0.1 secs, (30.00 Kbps), transfer succeeded 226 Transfer complete. -- datora serfing the stream electric From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jul 7 11:49:22 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6F6B316A41C for ; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 11:49:22 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from datora@gmail.com) Received: from rproxy.gmail.com (rproxy.gmail.com [64.233.170.203]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EF23E43D53 for ; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 11:49:21 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from datora@gmail.com) Received: by rproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 1so47968rny for ; Thu, 07 Jul 2005 04:49:21 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=stGPAtgFlDVDcgvAxwNVLZA3yxZtQ4so1jXbOBOnXRJCxHil3ePaQM89z/COM2+hWm4/iNm8EZK6Eix9g83lRmSNb4UiMC8XKTwravrta7Wf3y4tB3VYksqLjt6160wjTSAYOE/QUGd4FdNs3i2KMcs4mgGilyXo/MUMeZLS+gI= Received: by 10.11.55.24 with SMTP id d24mr103804cwa; Thu, 07 Jul 2005 04:49:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.11.119.32 with HTTP; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 04:49:21 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <7d67291805070704492ce7cd2b@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 7 Jul 2005 14:49:21 +0300 From: datora tehnika To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <42CD0CF7.6030703@speechpro.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline References: <200507071706.27858.shinjii@virusinfo.rdksupportinc.com> <42CCF6C8.2000405@gizm0.org> <7d6729180507070303d921631@mail.gmail.com> <42CD0CF7.6030703@speechpro.com> Subject: Re: Copying data onto a NTFS partitioned hdd X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: datora tehnika List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 07 Jul 2005 11:49:22 -0000 On 7/7/05, Igor Robul wrote: > datora tehnika wrote: >=20 > >''too small.'' Then I went with ''default,'' but then the volume size > >was ''too large.'' (for a 40 GB drive, the identical twin of which > > > This is known problem for Windows 2000 DiskManager. You can create FAT32 > with Win98, Partition Magic, Linux, FreeBSD. Windows 2000 will be able > to access disk. Nice to have a recipe to get the porridge just right. ;-) I'm gonna take a stab at it over the next couple of days & I'll post results, but I _think_ I can get the Win98 fdisk onto a bootable floppy and then FAT32 & partition a hard drive from there. I seem to recall having done it about four years back, but i'm a bit fuzzy on the details at this moment. Need to pull my Win98 CD & some old tech references. THANKS ! -- datora serfing the stream electric From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jul 7 11:57:38 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8278516A41C for ; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 11:57:38 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from szabszi@goodwill.hu) Received: from goodwill.hu (goodwill.dyndns.ws [81.182.246.121]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0B5E443D49 for ; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 11:57:37 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from szabszi@goodwill.hu) Received: from ip98-245.ktv.tiszanet.hu ([217.65.98.245] helo=[10.0.0.25]) by goodwill.hu with esmtpa (Exim 4.51 (FreeBSD)) id 1DqUtw-0007AK-4X for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Thu, 07 Jul 2005 13:50:45 +0200 Message-ID: <42CD176F.4050002@goodwill.hu> Date: Thu, 07 Jul 2005 13:52:15 +0200 From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?G=E9czi_Szabolcs?= User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.2 (Windows/20050317) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Score: -5.9 (-----) X-Spam-Report: Spam detection software, running on the system "ibm.goodwill.hu", has identified this incoming email as possible spam. 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Content preview: hi there, is there anyway (howto) to establish freebsd ipsec with dynamic ip? i got an a fix ip addressed freebsd server and would like t connect with another freebsd but with dynamic address. thx [...] Content analysis details: (-5.9 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- -3.3 ALL_TRUSTED Did not pass through any untrusted hosts -2.6 BAYES_00 BODY: Bayesian spam probability is 0 to 1% [score: 0.0000] 0.0 AWL AWL: From: address is in the auto white-list Subject: ipsec with dynamic ip X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 07 Jul 2005 11:57:38 -0000 hi there, is there anyway (howto) to establish freebsd ipsec with dynamic ip? i got an a fix ip addressed freebsd server and would like t connect with another freebsd but with dynamic address. thx sz From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jul 7 12:12:38 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 97CE516A41C for ; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 12:12:38 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from christopher.illies@molmed.ki.se) Received: from humle.it.ki.se (humle.it.ki.se [130.237.101.252]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0F3CD43D55 for ; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 12:12:37 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from christopher.illies@molmed.ki.se) Received: from Klabautermann.ks.se (gate2.ks.se [193.10.63.101]) by humle.it.ki.se (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id j67CCYmZ019042 for ; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 14:12:35 +0200 (MEST) Received: by Klabautermann.ks.se (Postfix, from userid 1001) id DAB59C168; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 14:16:51 +0200 (CEST) Date: Thu, 7 Jul 2005 14:16:51 +0200 From: Christopher Illies To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20050707121651.GA44778@Klabautermann.ks.se> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Subject: Keymapping in X: xterm vs. rxvt X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 07 Jul 2005 12:12:38 -0000 I have some problems with how some programs as sh or dc behave in aterm, but not xterm. About my system: ~%uname -a FreeBSD Klabautermann.ks.se 5.4-STABLE FreeBSD 5.4-STABLE #8: Thu Jun 30 21:18:02 CEST 2005 root@Klabautermann.ks.se:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/CUSTOM i386 With a Swedish keyboard: ~%cat /etc/rc.conf [...] keymap="swedish.iso" [...] ~%cat /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/xorg.conf [...] Section "InputDevice" Identifier "Keyboard0" Driver "kbd" Option "XkbRules" "xorg" Option "XkbModel" "pc105" Option "XkbLayout" "se" Option "XkbVariant" "nodeadkeys" EndSection [...] ~%cat .login_conf [...] me:\ :charset=iso-8859-1:\ :lang=en_US.ISO8859-1 [...] The problem starts when I use any of rxvt/aterm/wterm with sh as their shell (e.g. aterm -e sh): In this case when I press "SHIFT" + "8", which should give me "(" (= open parenthesis) on my keyboard, the shell executes a backspace. Also the backspace does not work, but apart from that all other keys, including special characters, seem to work fine. With xterm I do not see any of these problems at all. All other shells, csh, tcsh and zsh work fine with aterm. So far I could ignore all this and be happy using aterm with zsh, but when I now (aterm and zsh) use a program like dc or ficl, which require input, I again have "SHIFT" + "8" mapped to "BACKSPACE" not to "(". Again, dc does not have this problem run in xterm. This behaviour seems to be inheritable, because when start xterm not directly from the window manager, but from aterm, both sh and dc have "SHIFT" + "8" mapped to a backspace-like action. I checked the $TERM variable, but that is always "rxvt" on aterm and "xterm" on xterm. BTW, bc and vi run fine under all conditions, i.e. "(" is where it should be. So to conclude: There is something that sh, dc and ficl have in common concerning how they interpret keys under X that does not work together with aterm/rxvt/wterm, but runs fine with xterm. Then again, this behavior seems to be inheritable. Result: I am confused. Where is the problem? Is it my configuration, something with xorg, something with rxvt/aterm/wterm or something with sh/dc/...? How can I fix it, so that sh and dc will have the correct keyboard mapping also in aterm? Christopher From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jul 7 12:14:34 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3046716A41F for ; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 12:14:34 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from bsilver@chrononomicon.com) Received: from trans-warp.net (hyperion.trans-warp.net [216.37.208.37]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AF95043D49 for ; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 12:14:31 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from bsilver@chrononomicon.com) Received: from [127.0.0.1] (unverified [65.193.73.208]) by trans-warp.net (SurgeMail 2.2g3) with ESMTP id 15534051 for ; Thu, 07 Jul 2005 08:14:31 -0400 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v622) In-Reply-To: <42CD0CF7.6030703@speechpro.com> References: <200507071706.27858.shinjii@virusinfo.rdksupportinc.com> <42CCF6C8.2000405@gizm0.org> <7d6729180507070303d921631@mail.gmail.com> <42CD0CF7.6030703@speechpro.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Message-Id: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Bart Silverstrim Date: Thu, 7 Jul 2005 08:14:37 -0400 To: FreeBSD Mailing List X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.622) X-Server: High Performance Mail Server - http://surgemail.com X-Authenticated-User: bsilver@chrononomicon.com Subject: Re: Copying data onto a NTFS partitioned hdd X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 07 Jul 2005 12:14:34 -0000 On Jul 7, 2005, at 7:07 AM, Igor Robul wrote: > datora tehnika wrote: > >> ''too small.'' Then I went with ''default,'' but then the volume size >> was ''too large.'' (for a 40 GB drive, the identical twin of which >> > This is known problem for Windows 2000 DiskManager. You can create > FAT32 with Win98, Partition Magic, Linux, FreeBSD. Windows 2000 will > be able to access disk. I know it isn't what one would probably want to hear as a solution, but there are two other possibilities... Purchase a cheap Windows system to act as a file server on your home network, and you can share data using CIFS, or... Create a partition for Windows to share data with FreeBSD, and use an IFS driver to access it in a neutral filesystem, like EXT3 (something like http://uranus.it.swin.edu.au/~jn/linux/ext2ifs.htm ). Depending on what you're using Windows for, you could also look into running something like VMWare on FreeBSD. Personally, just for less hassle down the road, I'd personally opt for the second machine and use file shares to share data. But that's just me... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jul 7 12:23:03 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 601C516A41C for ; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 12:23:03 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from peo@intersonic.se) Received: from neonpark.inter-sonic.com (neonpark.inter-sonic.com [212.247.8.98]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1F6F143D49 for ; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 12:23:02 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from peo@intersonic.se) Message-ID: <42CD1E9F.8090603@intersonic.se> Date: Thu, 07 Jul 2005 14:22:55 +0200 From: Per olof Ljungmark User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.2 (X11/20050502) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at inter-sonic.com Subject: snapshot - 5.4 panic X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 07 Jul 2005 12:23:03 -0000 I did a test install of snapshot(8) http://people.freebsd.org/~rse/snapshot/ It seemingly worked well, I could mount the snapshots as expected etc. This morning when I rebuilt the system from 5.4p1 to p4 and rebooted. At boot the system panicked: panic: snapblkfree: Inconsistent block type setting amd_enable="NO" did not help I did a "rm -rf .snap" on all concerned slices and that stopped the system from panicking. I'm not particulary fluent with what snapshot does and would like to hear from anyone that might have a clue. Thanks, From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jul 6 13:21:59 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F226C16A41C; Wed, 6 Jul 2005 13:21:58 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from brian@box201.com) Received: from host78.ipowerweb.com (host78.ipowerweb.com [66.235.200.178]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5997143D53; Wed, 6 Jul 2005 13:21:58 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from brian@box201.com) Received: from c-67-190-22-43.hsd1.co.comcast.net ([67.190.22.43] helo=electricblue) by host78.ipowerweb.com with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Dq9qe-0008P4-E7; Wed, 06 Jul 2005 06:21:57 -0700 From: "Brian Duke" To: , , Date: Wed, 6 Jul 2005 07:21:47 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook, Build 11.0.6353 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 Thread-Index: AcWCLajnARJO2Cm2QkS2BQiGjf/fPQ== X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - host78.ipowerweb.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - freebsd.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - box201.com X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: Message-Id: <20050706132158.5997143D53@mx1.FreeBSD.org> X-Mailman-Approved-At: Thu, 07 Jul 2005 12:32:55 +0000 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="koi8-r" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: brian.duke@level3.com Subject: install FreeBSD 5.3 and gnome2 help X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 06 Jul 2005 13:21:59 -0000 This is probably the wrong list to post to. Please direct me to a more appropriate one if this is the case. I'm having trouble building gnome2. OS if FreeBSD 5.3 Fresh install. Loaded via ftp The very first thing I do is update the ports tree. Next I try to build gnome2 and it's the libgnomecanvas that fails. Here is the output from the make install: =20 bsd_ws1# cd /usr/ports/x11/gnome2 bsd_ws1# make install clean =3D=3D=3D> Installing for gnome2-2.10.1 =3D=3D=3D> gnome2-2.10.1 depends on file: = /usr/X11R6/libexec/gweather-applet-2 - not found =3D=3D=3D> Verifying install for /usr/X11R6/libexec/gweather-applet-2 = in /usr/ports/x11/gnomeapplets2 =3D=3D=3D> gnomeapplets2-2.10.1_3 depends on file: /usr/X11R6/libdata/pkgconfig/gnome-system-tools.pc - not found =3D=3D=3D> Verifying install for /usr/X11R6/libdata/pkgconfig/gnome-system-tools.pc in /usr/ports/sysutils/gnomesystemtools =3D=3D=3D> gnomesystemtools-1.2.0_2 depends on file: /usr/X11R6/share/setup-tool-backends/scripts/xml.pl - found =3D=3D=3D> gnomesystemtools-1.2.0_2 depends on executable: gmake - = found =3D=3D=3D> gnomesystemtools-1.2.0_2 depends on file: = /usr/local/bin/libtool15 - found =3D=3D=3D> gnomesystemtools-1.2.0_2 depends on file: /usr/local/bin/intltool-extract - found =3D=3D=3D> gnomesystemtools-1.2.0_2 depends on file: /usr/X11R6/libdata/pkgconfig/gnome-mime-data-2.0.pc - found =3D=3D=3D> gnomesystemtools-1.2.0_2 depends on executable: pkg-config = - found =3D=3D=3D> gnomesystemtools-1.2.0_2 depends on shared library: esd.2 - = found =3D=3D=3D> gnomesystemtools-1.2.0_2 depends on shared library: = atk-1.0.901 - found =3D=3D=3D> gnomesystemtools-1.2.0_2 depends on shared library: = eel-2.12 - not found =3D=3D=3D> Verifying install for eel-2.12 in = /usr/ports/x11-toolkits/eel =3D=3D=3D> eel-2.10.1_1 depends on executable: gmake - found =3D=3D=3D> eel-2.10.1_1 depends on file: /usr/local/bin/libtool15 - = found =3D=3D=3D> eel-2.10.1_1 depends on file: = /usr/local/bin/intltool-extract - found =3D=3D=3D> eel-2.10.1_1 depends on file: /usr/X11R6/libdata/pkgconfig/gnome-mime-data-2.0.pc - found =3D=3D=3D> eel-2.10.1_1 depends on executable: pkg-config - found =3D=3D=3D> eel-2.10.1_1 depends on shared library: esd.2 - found =3D=3D=3D> eel-2.10.1_1 depends on shared library: atk-1.0.901 - found =3D=3D=3D> eel-2.10.1_1 depends on shared library: gailutil.17 - not = found =3D=3D=3D> Verifying install for gailutil.17 in = /usr/ports/accessibility/gail =3D=3D=3D> gail-1.8.4 depends on executable: gmake - found =3D=3D=3D> gail-1.8.4 depends on file: /usr/local/bin/libtool15 - = found =3D=3D=3D> gail-1.8.4 depends on file: /usr/local/bin/intltool-extract = - found =3D=3D=3D> gail-1.8.4 depends on executable: pkg-config - found =3D=3D=3D> gail-1.8.4 depends on shared library: atk-1.0.901 - found =3D=3D=3D> gail-1.8.4 depends on shared library: glib-2.0.600 - found =3D=3D=3D> gail-1.8.4 depends on shared library: gtk-x11-2.0.600 - = found =3D=3D=3D> gail-1.8.4 depends on shared library: art_lgpl_2.5 - found =3D=3D=3D> gail-1.8.4 depends on shared library: glade-2.0.0 - found =3D=3D=3D> gail-1.8.4 depends on shared library: gnomecanvas-2.1000 - = not found =3D=3D=3D> Verifying install for gnomecanvas-2.1000 in /usr/ports/graphics/libgnomecanvas =3D=3D=3D> Building for libgnomecanvas-2.10.2_1 gmake all-recursive gmake[1]: Entering directory `/usr/ports/graphics/libgnomecanvas/work/libgnomecanvas-2.10.2' Making all in libgnomecanvas gmake[2]: Entering directory `/usr/ports/graphics/libgnomecanvas/work/libgnomecanvas-2.10.2/libgnomeca= nva s' gmake all-am gmake[3]: Entering directory `/usr/ports/graphics/libgnomecanvas/work/libgnomecanvas-2.10.2/libgnomeca= nva s' /bin/sh /usr/local/bin/libtool15 --mode=3Dlink cc -O -pipe = -L/usr/local/lib -o libgnomecanvas-2.la -rpath /usr/X11R6/lib -version-info 1000:2:1000 gnome-canvas-shape.lo gnome-canvas-bpath.lo gnome-canvas-path-def.lo gnome-canvas-clipgroup.lo gnome-canvas-line.lo gnome-canvas-pixbuf.lo gnome-canvas-polygon.lo gnome-canvas-rect-ellipse.lo = gnome-canvas-text.lo gnome-canvas-rich-text.lo gnome-canvas-util.lo gnome-canvas-widget.lo gnome-canvas.lo libgnomecanvastypes.lo -L/usr/local/lib -L/usr/X11R6/lib -lgtk-x11-2.0 -lgdk-x11-2.0 -lXrandr -lXi -lXinerama -lXcursor -latk-1.0 -lgdk_pixbuf-2.0 -lpangoxft-1.0 -lXft -lXrender -lXext -lpangox-1.0 = -lX11 -lart_lgpl_2 -lpangoft2-1.0 -lfontconfig -lfreetype -lz -lpango-1.0 -lm -lgobject-2.0 -lgmodule-2.0 -lglib-2.0 -liconv libtool15: link: CURRENT `1000' is not a nonnegative integer libtool15: link: `1000:2:1000' is not valid version information gmake[3]: *** [libgnomecanvas-2.la] Error 1 gmake[3]: Leaving directory `/usr/ports/graphics/libgnomecanvas/work/libgnomecanvas-2.10.2/libgnomeca= nva s' gmake[2]: *** [all] Error 2 gmake[2]: Leaving directory `/usr/ports/graphics/libgnomecanvas/work/libgnomecanvas-2.10.2/libgnomeca= nva s' gmake[1]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1 gmake[1]: Leaving directory `/usr/ports/graphics/libgnomecanvas/work/libgnomecanvas-2.10.2' gmake: *** [all] Error 2 *** Error code 2 =20 Stop in /usr/ports/graphics/libgnomecanvas. *** Error code 1 =20 Stop in /usr/ports/accessibility/gail. *** Error code 1 =20 Stop in /usr/ports/x11-toolkits/eel. *** Error code 1 =20 Stop in /usr/ports/sysutils/gnomesystemtools. *** Error code 1 =20 Stop in /usr/ports/x11/gnomeapplets2. *** Error code 1 =20 Stop in /usr/ports/x11/gnome2. =20 =20 Brian Duke 303-952-4983 Blue Incorporated. -=3D-_-=3D=3D--=3D_-=3D=83=20 =20 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jul 6 22:43:16 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F238A16A41C for ; Wed, 6 Jul 2005 22:43:15 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from billy_gates05@yahoo.com) Received: from web32004.mail.mud.yahoo.com (web32004.mail.mud.yahoo.com [68.142.207.101]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 9338043D46 for ; Wed, 6 Jul 2005 22:43:15 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from billy_gates05@yahoo.com) Received: (qmail 98377 invoked by uid 60001); 6 Jul 2005 22:43:15 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=HksSE4eQ56UobsFJRcpEen9vLdTTRUZJ0oFORueQH3xfgEKBxJfyJlBVViCpf3GT7D7uVnz6HMduG6zHmQaEzGiqxtsMri4vFtuEcEXhYwzGJRGlSqZEc5dLEWragr8cwcNy4UGKu8cyonpBRLTkUZybajW2FaedvZKy+iyC18Q= ; Message-ID: <20050706224315.98375.qmail@web32004.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Received: from [202.95.157.164] by web32004.mail.mud.yahoo.com via HTTP; Wed, 06 Jul 2005 15:43:14 PDT Date: Wed, 6 Jul 2005 15:43:14 -0700 (PDT) From: billy gates To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailman-Approved-At: Thu, 07 Jul 2005 12:32:55 +0000 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: root passwd X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 06 Jul 2005 22:43:16 -0000 can you help me to get root passwd without boot loader?(may be software for windows or linux) __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? 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Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jul 7 13:12:20 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EE87A16A41C for ; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 13:12:20 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@m.gmane.org) Received: from ciao.gmane.org (main.gmane.org [80.91.229.2]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 937C043D49 for ; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 13:12:20 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@m.gmane.org) Received: from list by ciao.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.43) id 1DqW9Y-00016w-Uj for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Thu, 07 Jul 2005 15:10:56 +0200 Received: from c-24-63-51-236.hsd1.ma.comcast.net ([24.63.51.236]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Thu, 07 Jul 2005 15:10:56 +0200 Received: from jdarnold by c-24-63-51-236.hsd1.ma.comcast.net with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Thu, 07 Jul 2005 15:10:56 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: Jonathan Arnold Date: Thu, 07 Jul 2005 09:10:40 -0400 Lines: 17 Message-ID: References: <20050706025624.40637.qmail@web51612.mail.yahoo.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: c-24-63-51-236.hsd1.ma.comcast.net User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.8b) Gecko/20050217 MultiZilla/1.7.0.2d In-Reply-To: <20050706025624.40637.qmail@web51612.mail.yahoo.com> Sender: news Subject: Re: Nothing works X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 07 Jul 2005 13:12:21 -0000 Timothy McLouth wrote: > I also bought a book for $47 which is useless, the title is misleading..."The design and implementation of FreeBSD" Yeah, that's not the book for newbie help. I would recommend Greg Lehey's "Complete FreeBSD" (note: I helped proofread the book and got a free copy for it - but it's still a great book!). I also found "FreeBSD Unleashed" to be pretty solid as well. But my basic advice is to take a deep breath, take things step by step, and ask (nicely!) here if/when you have questions. Take a look at some web sites, as there are lots of them out there with helpful advice. Check out BSDForums.org for even more help. -- Jonathan Arnold (mailto:jdarnold@buddydog.org) Daemon Dancing in the Dark, a FreeBSD weblog: http://freebsd.amazingdev.com/blog/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jul 7 13:12:24 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2020416A423 for ; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 13:12:24 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from xfb52@dial.pipex.com) Received: from smtp-out1.blueyonder.co.uk (smtp-out1.blueyonder.co.uk [195.188.213.4]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8B13543D4C for ; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 13:12:20 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from xfb52@dial.pipex.com) Received: from [82.41.37.55] ([82.41.37.55]) by smtp-out1.blueyonder.co.uk with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.6713); Thu, 7 Jul 2005 14:13:02 +0100 Message-ID: <42CD2A33.5080503@dial.pipex.com> Date: Thu, 07 Jul 2005 14:12:19 +0100 From: Alex Zbyslaw User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-GB; rv:1.7.8) Gecko/20050530 X-Accept-Language: en, en-us, pl MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Shark Wang References: <20050707111924.950B043D58@mx1.FreeBSD.org> <1e22f3590507070420376112f@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <1e22f3590507070420376112f@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-OriginalArrivalTime: 07 Jul 2005 13:13:02.0763 (UTC) FILETIME=[9AEB2FB0:01C582F5] Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Did we must put the mounted partition '/' and '/boot' in the same slice ? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 07 Jul 2005 13:12:24 -0000 Shark Wang wrote: >Today, I heard something on the partition policy for FreeBSD. > >Someone said that we must put the mounted partition '/' and '/boot' >in the same slice, otherwise, the System will not boot up ! > > So what? Please explain what actual problem you are trying to solve and why you would want to make /boot a partition at all? Have you read relevant sections from the handbook? You could start with: http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/disk-organization.html --Alex From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jul 7 13:36:40 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1EBDC16A41C for ; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 13:36:40 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from john@day-light.com) Received: from joseph.day-light.net (gabriel.day-light.net [209.145.160.141]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D7B3F43D45 for ; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 13:36:39 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from john@day-light.com) Received: from w1 (unknown [10.1.5.36]) by joseph.day-light.net (Postfix) with SMTP id 92EEF4F40B; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 08:36:38 -0500 (CDT) From: "John Brooks" To: "datora tehnika" , Date: Thu, 7 Jul 2005 08:36:38 -0500 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.6604 (9.0.2911.0) In-Reply-To: <7d6729180507070303d921631@mail.gmail.com> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1441 Importance: Normal Cc: Subject: RE: Copying data onto a NTFS partitioned hdd X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: john@day-light.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 07 Jul 2005 13:36:40 -0000 WinNT does not support FAT32 -- John Brooks john@day-light.com > > BTW, I had to format as NTFS since Win2K is my only option for the > moment; first time I ever tried to use WinNT to format a volume or > drive as FAT32 & was strikingly unsurprised when it failed at such a > banal task. I am now operating under the assumption I must reformat > later to use with *nix/*BSD, so this thread is quite interesting to me > so I can do it right the next time .. hopefully within a week to ten > days. > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jul 7 13:57:12 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 117DF16A41C for ; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 13:57:12 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from freebsd-questions-local@be-well.ilk.org) Received: from mail22.sea5.speakeasy.net (mail22.sea5.speakeasy.net [69.17.117.24]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CC91743D45 for ; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 13:57:11 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from freebsd-questions-local@be-well.ilk.org) Received: (qmail 7396 invoked from network); 7 Jul 2005 13:57:11 -0000 Received: from dsl092-078-145.bos1.dsl.speakeasy.net (HELO be-well.ilk.org) ([66.92.78.145]) (envelope-sender ) by mail22.sea5.speakeasy.net (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for ; 7 Jul 2005 13:57:10 -0000 Received: by be-well.ilk.org (Postfix, from userid 1147) id B04632E; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 09:57:08 -0400 (EDT) Sender: lowell@be-well.ilk.org To: Matthias Buelow To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <200507061318.j66DIrHx000895@drjekyll.mkbuelow.net> From: Lowell Gilbert Date: 07 Jul 2005 09:57:08 -0400 In-Reply-To: <200507061318.j66DIrHx000895@drjekyll.mkbuelow.net> Message-ID: <44r7eara6j.fsf@be-well.ilk.org> Lines: 33 User-Agent: Gnus/5.09 (Gnus v5.9.0) Emacs/21.3 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Cc: Subject: Re: disk write barriers X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 07 Jul 2005 13:57:12 -0000 Matthias Buelow writes: > Now my question is: Does FreeBSD also implements these barriers, or an > equivalent mechanism, as claimed on the above URL? Do you have a background in OS design? It affects the answer, because you seem to be referring to access barriers and disk cache flushes interchangeably, which doesn't make sense, especially on multiprocessor systems. > If it does, why then > the frequent advice to disable write-back caching? Or is that only for > the couple drives that ignore any flush cache/disable wb commands? The problem with caching has nothing to do with flushing the cache; if you flush the cache often, there's no advantage to using it anyway. The whole speedup from using on-disk caching comes from the fact that the drive reorders the writes at will, and lies to the operating system by saying the writes are done when they aren't. Among other obvious problems, this negates the careful ordering calculated by softupdates. > I > know my drive doesn't ignore that command (since performance drops > sharply, when I disable the cache), so I would be on the safe side. This doesn't follow. Just because you know that your drive supports disabling the cache does not mean that it is safe to do so. > Would it be possible to get an authoritative statement from a FreeBSD > developer here on that matter? Could depend on how much you're willing to pay them. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jul 7 14:03:24 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 47C8016A41C for ; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 14:03:24 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from shantanoo@gmail.com) Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.200]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CB12B43D45 for ; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 14:03:21 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from shantanoo@gmail.com) Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 34so87334nzf for ; Thu, 07 Jul 2005 07:03:21 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=eOJciNleSOYdKiD7rcOMSJ9Ygz6LJd73fIisa1TIYGkH9HDPMb9+NPfbJmMfjPi07OyY0z0vWiEurBi1gKjO7rFaa6R4rfoBZVQKh4AFUPPWDsjUx2ia6hxuaZbBbgF2ZC5Fu4vJFx+K+jtQQ/QjQbPIw2rPoH+Iy3gc+4TAOh8= Received: by 10.36.222.4 with SMTP id u4mr303052nzg; Thu, 07 Jul 2005 07:03:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.7.14 with HTTP; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 07:03:21 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <23017470050707070341b5971b@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 7 Jul 2005 19:33:21 +0530 From: =?UTF-8?Q?=E0=A4=B6=E0=A4=82=E0=A4=A4=E0=A4=A8=E0=A5=81_=28Shantanoo=29?= To: billy gates In-Reply-To: <20050706224315.98375.qmail@web32004.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline References: <20050706224315.98375.qmail@web32004.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: root passwd X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: =?UTF-8?Q?=E0=A4=B6=E0=A4=82=E0=A4=A4=E0=A4=A8=E0=A5=81_=28Shantanoo=29?= List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 07 Jul 2005 14:03:24 -0000 On 7/7/05, billy gates wrote: > can you help me to get root passwd without boot loader?(may be software f= or windows or linux) password is stored as the md5 of the string. can't be reverse engineered.= =20 Regards, Shantanoo From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jul 7 14:03:28 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ECDB316A42F for ; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 14:03:28 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from thomas.leveille@gmail.com) Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.205]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9C8F343D49 for ; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 14:03:28 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from thomas.leveille@gmail.com) Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 8so89137nzo for ; Thu, 07 Jul 2005 07:03:28 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=W6f+AyrXspPqC9Cos0bkN52MgOrMXAkDRJTNWiBFwvXRe8rNT1qXbqUahrJmWHQp9ygpzUBOy6fhNuuVgKvVTN2LjHBsYe3a00vsk0C04aCyO3R74fThnF+aeBTn0hV4dp+RkthHL+9LS/LfomoCdojNsvZp8sxYtSwOoNaJdEg= Received: by 10.36.222.59 with SMTP id u59mr311305nzg; Thu, 07 Jul 2005 07:03:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.7.10 with HTTP; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 07:03:27 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Thu, 7 Jul 2005 16:03:27 +0200 From: Thomas Leveille To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline References: <20050706025624.40637.qmail@web51612.mail.yahoo.com> Subject: Re: Nothing works X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Thomas Leveille List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 07 Jul 2005 14:03:29 -0000 On 7/7/05, Jonathan Arnold wrote: > I would recommend Greg Lehey's > "Complete FreeBSD" (note: I helped proofread the book and got a free copy > for it - but it's still a great book!). I also found "FreeBSD Unleashed" = to > be pretty solid as well. FreeBSD Unleashed is the only one I bought a few years ago and it's quite good though there's nothing more than what you find in the handbook and man pages. It costs only 60$ for both volumes of the handbook on paper and there is CD+Hanbook Vol 1 bundle for the same price. Vol.1 covers pretty much everything a new user should know in the first hours.. freebsd mall : http://www.freebsdmall.com/cgi-bin/fm > But my basic advice is to take a deep breath, take things step by step, a= nd > ask (nicely!) here if/when you have questions. Take a look at some web > sites, as there are lots of them out there with helpful advice. Check out > BSDForums.org for even more help. >From experience, it's always good to have the information on paper, especially for someone who doesn't have a second computer with a web access. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jul 7 14:07:18 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3385F16A41C for ; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 14:07:18 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from savage@savage.za.org) Received: from pyro.cenergynetworks.com (pyro.cenergynetworks.com [196.30.191.122]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B021443D4C for ; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 14:07:12 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from savage@savage.za.org) Received: from localhost.cenergynetworks.com ([127.0.0.1] helo=pyro.cenergynetworks.com) by pyro.cenergynetworks.com with smtp (Exim 4.51) id 1DqX1y-000FsC-rA for questions@freebsd.org; Thu, 07 Jul 2005 16:07:10 +0200 Received: from wblv-146-210-215.telkomadsl.co.za ([165.146.210.215] helo=MEGADROID) by pyro.cenergynetworks.com with esmtpa (Exim 4.51) id 1DqX1m-000Fry-qI for questions@freebsd.org; Thu, 07 Jul 2005 16:06:58 +0200 Message-ID: <002301c582fd$0e89dd20$c800a8c0@MEGADROID> From: "Chris Knipe" To: Date: Thu, 7 Jul 2005 16:06:21 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2527 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2527 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.0.4 (2005-06-05) on pyro.cenergynetworks.com X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, score=1.7 required=5.0 tests=RCVD_IN_NJABL_DUL autolearn=no version=3.0.4 X-PMX-Version: 4.7.1.128075, Antispam-Engine: 2.0.3.0, Antispam-Data: 2005.3.10.17 Cc: Subject: ports: www/jakarata-tomcat* X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 07 Jul 2005 14:07:18 -0000 Lo all, root@pyro:/usr/ports/www/jakarta-tomcat41# make WITHOUT_X11=yes install clean jakarta-tomcat-4.1.31_1: Environment error: "JAVA_PORT" should not be defined. *** Error code 1 I did tripple check, at the time of running make, the variable is NOT defined. I can't install any of the tomcat versions.... Help??? -- Chris. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jul 7 14:12:13 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3F0E516A41C for ; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 14:12:13 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from dopplecoder@gmail.com) Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.193]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E1F6543D58 for ; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 14:12:12 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from dopplecoder@gmail.com) Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id l8so92238nzf for ; Thu, 07 Jul 2005 07:12:12 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=UzDEy67vH3LdTZzSQqLY+/b/Ncq/3G1oG/2jOBt2747SCdlLUR5I9umfYDsNuQBrzxMVpMKnOqMVyM8XojRpi4MQg57h4ywLmXQsOm2CHsGm/N88F6njqkUOOawb77dLHlZEvaSBQM9597pbvu0sjsvaL7b5bm6Sczfex/xzlgQ= Received: by 10.36.119.17 with SMTP id r17mr258729nzc; Thu, 07 Jul 2005 07:12:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.86.5 with HTTP; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 07:12:12 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <45d750d20507070712791783eb@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 7 Jul 2005 10:12:12 -0400 From: Aaron Peterson To: =?UTF-8?Q?=E0=A4=B6=E0=A4=82=E0=A4=A4=E0=A4=A8=E0=A5=81_=28Shantanoo=29?= In-Reply-To: <23017470050707070341b5971b@mail.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 Content-Disposition: inline References: <20050706224315.98375.qmail@web32004.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <23017470050707070341b5971b@mail.gmail.com> Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, billy gates Subject: Re: root passwd X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Aaron Peterson List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 07 Jul 2005 14:12:13 -0000 T24gNy83LzA1LCDgpLbgpILgpKTgpKjgpYEgKFNoYW50YW5vbykgPHNoYW50YW5vb0BnbWFpbC5j b20+IHdyb3RlOgo+IE9uIDcvNy8wNSwgYmlsbHkgZ2F0ZXMgPGJpbGx5X2dhdGVzMDVAeWFob28u Y29tPiB3cm90ZToKPiA+IGNhbiB5b3UgaGVscCBtZSB0byBnZXQgcm9vdCBwYXNzd2Qgd2l0aG91 dCBib290IGxvYWRlcj8obWF5IGJlIHNvZnR3YXJlIGZvciB3aW5kb3dzIG9yIGxpbnV4KQo+IAo+ IHBhc3N3b3JkIGlzIHN0b3JlZCBhcyB0aGUgbWQ1IG9mIHRoZSBzdHJpbmcuIGNhbid0IGJlIHJl dmVyc2UgZW5naW5lZXJlZC4KPiAKPiBSZWdhcmRzLAo+IFNoYW50YW5vbwoKT2YgY291cnNlLCB5 b3UgY2FuIGNoYW5nZSB0aGUgcm9vdCBwYXNzd29yZCBpZiB5b3UgaGF2ZSBwaHlzaWNhbAphY2Nl c3MgdG8gdGhlIG1hY2hpbmUuICBCb290IGludG8gc2luZ2xlIHVzZXIgbW9kZSwgIm1vdW50IC1h IiwgYW5kCnVzZSB0aGUgInBhc3N3ZCIgY29tbWFuZCB0byBtYWtlIGEgbmV3IHBhc3N3b3JkLgo= From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jul 7 14:23:15 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A8C7316A41C for ; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 14:23:15 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from mark@gaiahost.coop) Received: from biodiesel.gaiahost.coop (biodiesel.gaiahost.coop [64.95.78.120]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5BDFE43D45 for ; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 14:23:15 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from mark@gaiahost.coop) Received: from rabbit.hubcapconsulting.com (host-216-153-147-194.spr.choiceone.net [::ffff:216.153.147.194]) (AUTH: LOGIN mark@hubcapconsulting.com) by biodiesel.gaiahost.coop with esmtp; Thu, 07 Jul 2005 10:23:12 -0400 id 008A400E.42CD3AD2.00007355 Received: by rabbit.hubcapconsulting.com (sSMTP sendmail emulation); Thu, 7 Jul 2005 10:23:11 -0400 Date: Thu, 7 Jul 2005 10:23:11 -0400 From: Mark Bucciarelli To: questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20050707142311.GL2792@rabbit> Mail-Followup-To: questions@freebsd.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Cc: Subject: Network Debugging X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 07 Jul 2005 14:23:15 -0000 I'm trying to improve the performance of our rural homebrew wireless broadband and am hoping some of the folks here can give me a pointer or two as to what network monitoring tools I should use. Background: - my internet access is five wireless and five wired hops downstream from a 1/2 T1 (ten Buffalo AirStation G54 routers in all). - my connection has a lot of jitter--ping's usually vary from 10ms to 150ms within a two second window - FWIU, jitter is related to congestion - I have setup a FreeBSD box to monitor [1] each router along the path using smokeping. The smokeping charts are showing me some interesting stuff. Here is some data from the past three hours (I am using the smokeping default of 20 pings sent every five minutes): |--------- Building 1 --------------| |--- Bldg 0 --... +-----------+ +------------+ +-----------+ | .203 | | .202 | | .201 | | Router In |<- wire ->| Router Out |<- wireless ->| Router In | +-----------+ +------------+ +-----------+ avg RTT: 7.3ms 12.1ms 7.8ms % lost: 2.37% 14.25% 2.64% max RTT: 20ms 80ms 13ms My FreeBSD box is a four more wireless hops to the left of .203. A slew of questions ... What is going on here? I am confused by the max RTT readings and packet loss stats for .202 and .201. How can a router further away from me have better performance? Over the past 13 hours, the averages are consistent with the three-hour averages, while the Max RTT discrepancies are even higher: .203 / .202 / .201 = 20ms / 145ms / 13ms. Is .202 congested? Is the .202 router "bad"? How can I debug this further? SNMP? If SNMP, what values should I track/inspect? - # of packets with errors? - # of queued packets? - ?? Thanks for any pointers, m [1] Pentium II 350MHz with 4 Gb drive, underclocked to 100MHz so I can turn off the power supply fan and make it real quiet. :) From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jul 7 14:42:32 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 90E9616A41C for ; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 14:42:32 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from sharkwang@gmail.com) Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.207]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 03E3343D4C for ; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 14:42:31 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from sharkwang@gmail.com) Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 36so296903wri for ; Thu, 07 Jul 2005 07:42:27 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=RlJwB9n7GXr24jF7PNrzfpsPniagmoUc6Pg8/seBVAah1TYRwy43fJ3D1Y+gvqX5mFEmGh16+oZS9rVy7ABYuJHIHJcGHIod30j/KddwYrFujMLdYZA6xu7FsXhgVIXVDMjUqi2DcMZJFZYBinVQart7yPzLKahl/bb+p9DwDYw= Received: by 10.54.17.66 with SMTP id 66mr2921326wrq; Thu, 07 Jul 2005 07:42:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.19.45 with HTTP; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 07:42:27 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <1e22f35905070707427dbd31f7@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 7 Jul 2005 22:42:27 +0800 From: Shark Wang To: Alex Zbyslaw In-Reply-To: <42CD2A33.5080503@dial.pipex.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline References: <20050707111924.950B043D58@mx1.FreeBSD.org> <1e22f3590507070420376112f@mail.gmail.com> <42CD2A33.5080503@dial.pipex.com> Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Did we must put the mounted partition '/' and '/boot' in the same slice ? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Shark Wang List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 07 Jul 2005 14:42:32 -0000 I put '/boot' for an individual partition just for 1023 cylinder story, although FreeBSD did not need this action ! the following is my partitions layout, pls help to do some check: ad0s1d /boot -> 30M ad0s1a / -> 512M ad0s1b swap -> 512M ad0s1e /usr -> 6144M ad0s1f /var -> 512M ad0s1g /home -> 2017M ad0s1h /tmp -> 512M=20 But after I finished my installation and reboot FreeBSD, it will not load sccuessfully! Could you tell me what's the mistakes ? thanks a lot ! -Shark On 7/7/05, Alex Zbyslaw wrote: > Shark Wang wrote: >=20 > >Today, I heard something on the partition policy for FreeBSD. > > > >Someone said that we must put the mounted partition '/' and '/boot' > >in the same slice, otherwise, the System will not boot up ! > > > > > So what? >=20 > Please explain what actual problem you are trying to solve and why you > would want to make /boot a partition at all? >=20 > Have you read relevant sections from the handbook? >=20 > You could start with: > http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/disk-organizati= on.html >=20 > --Alex >=20 >=20 --=20 I'm just a bitMaker ! From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jul 7 15:09:01 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 123FA16A41C for ; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 15:09:01 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from chris@seagul.co.uk) Received: from office.seagul.co.uk (dsl-62-3-120-198.zen.co.uk [62.3.120.198]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4FF9643D45 for ; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 15:09:00 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from chris@seagul.co.uk) Received: from [192.168.3.103] ([192.168.3.103]) by office.seagul.co.uk with MailEnable ESMTP; Thu, 07 Jul 2005 16:08:37 +0100 Message-ID: <42CD4588.9090208@seagul.co.uk> Date: Thu, 07 Jul 2005 16:08:56 +0100 From: Chris Roos User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.2 (Windows/20050317) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Alex Zbyslaw References: <42CC027B.7030808@seagul.co.uk> <42CC0E55.5040300@dial.pipex.com> In-Reply-To: <42CC0E55.5040300@dial.pipex.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Migrating FreeBsd installation to another hard drive X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 07 Jul 2005 15:09:01 -0000 Alex Zbyslaw wrote: > Chris Roos wrote: > >> One final question is whether the dump/restore process is the best >> approach in this instance? I have read about using dd but am not >> entirely sure whether this would do what I need? >> > No, you should use dump/restore and if it is the root partition you will > need to edit fstab afterwards. > Can I just double check that the editing of fstab is only applicable if my device names change? During my testing here I have been migrating to a secondary disk that eventually becomes the primary. As such I haven't had to change the fstab (both origin and eventually destination are device ad0). When I do this for real however, I will be migrating from a single drive to an array so understand that in that case I will need to edit fstab to reflect the device change (this should be fine as I have had to do this in the past). > --Alex > > PS There's a FAQ all about this. I have no wish to decry the bsdvault > article you quote, since I haven't read it -- it may even be the same as > the FAQ. But if the FAQ or handbook has a section answering your > question, then it is always likely to be the best starting point. > > http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/faq/disks.html#NEW-HUGE-DISK > Thanks, I'd already read the faq and the bsdvault procedure is very similar in content. I just wondered if there was any better/other ways really.. Thanks for your help, Chris From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jul 7 15:13:20 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 24B6816A41C for ; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 15:13:20 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from chris@seagul.co.uk) Received: from office.seagul.co.uk (dsl-62-3-120-198.zen.co.uk [62.3.120.198]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2E0AA43D53 for ; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 15:13:18 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from chris@seagul.co.uk) Received: from [192.168.3.103] ([192.168.3.103]) by office.seagul.co.uk with MailEnable ESMTP; Thu, 07 Jul 2005 16:12:55 +0100 Message-ID: <42CD468B.7020004@seagul.co.uk> Date: Thu, 07 Jul 2005 16:13:15 +0100 From: Chris Roos User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.2 (Windows/20050317) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: ruben@bloemgarten.demon.nl References: <20050706170753.4D6F543D46@mx1.FreeBSD.org> In-Reply-To: <20050706170753.4D6F543D46@mx1.FreeBSD.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1250; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Migrating FreeBsd installation to another hard drive X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 07 Jul 2005 15:13:20 -0000 Thanks for the time taken to detail all of the steps. I think I am doing roughly the same thing except you are going via from _source_ to _intemediary_ back to _source_ once the RAID is sorted. I am going straight from _source_ to _destination_. I may be wrong but do any of your steps below involve writing the standard mbr (not the freebsd boot manager) to the drive? Thanks for your help, Chris Ruben Bloemgarten wrote: > Hi there, > I had to do something similar i.e. change RAID levels, there is no need to > install anything. Just use the fixit CD. Here is my procedure : > Ofcourse you'll have to change disk[slice] names to what suits you. NOTE: I > used tar for the /usr slice as I had some size constraints and therefore > needed some compression ( I could have piped the dump to gzip ofcourse, but > didn't). In my opinion dump&restore is the best procedure. But dd works as > well. > Regards, > Ruben > > 1. boot from CD > 2. goto fixit CD > 3. create new mount point > --> # mkdir /new_mnt > 4. mount external drive /new_mnt > --> # mount /dev/da0s1 /new_mnt > 5. mount / on /mnt > # mount /dev/ar0s1a /mnt > 6. backup fstab and bsdlabel > --> # cp /mnt/etc/fstab /new_mnt/fstab.BAK > # bsdlabel ar0s1 > /new_mnt/bsdlabel.BAK > 7. dump / > --> # umount /mnt > # dump -0au -C 32 -f /new_mnt/root_dump /dev/ar0s1a > 8. dump /var > --> # dump -0au -C 32 -f /new_mnt/var_dump /dev/ar0s1e > 9. tar /usr ( or only those subsystems which contain userdata > (dbase,mail,etc) > --> # mount /dev/ar0s1f /mnt > # cd /mnt > # tar czf /new_mnt/usr_tar.tar.gz ./ > 10.unmount all mounted filesystems > --> # umount /mnt > # umount /new_mnt > 11. exit fixit and boot CD > 12. power down > 13. replace disks > 14. boot to RAID config tool > 15. set array to RAID0 > 16. reboot to CD > 17. exit to FIXIT > 18. erase current disklabel & create new label with one slice > --> # dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/ar0 bs=512 count=32 > # fdisk -BI /dev/ar0 > # dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/ar0s1 bs=512 count=32 > # bsdlabel -w -B da0s1 > 19. read disklabel & note c partition value > 20. mount external disk & edit saved slice (step 6) > 21. write edited label to disk > 22. --> # bsdlabel -R /dev/ar0s1 /new_mnt > 23. --> # newfs /dev/ar0s1[a,d,e,f) > 24. --> # mount /dev/ar0s1d /tmp > 25. --> # export TMPDIR=/tmp > 26. mount & restore / > --> # mount /dev/ar0s1a /mnt > # cd /mnt > # restore rf [PATHNAME_TO_root_dump] > 27. umounting / and mount & restore /var > --> # cd .. > # umount /mnt > # mount /dev/ar0s1e /mnt > # cd /mnt > # restore rf [PATHNAME_TO_var_dump] > 28. extracting usr_tar.tar.gz into /usr > --> # cd .. > # umount /mnt > # mount /dev/ar0s1f /mnt > # cd /mnt > # tar xzvf [PATHNAME_TO_usrtar] ./ > 29. umount all open filesystems > --> # umount /tmp > # umount /mnt > # umount /new_mnt > 30. exit single user mode and startup > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > [mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org] On Behalf Of Chris Roos > Sent: July 06, 2005 6:11 PM > To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > Subject: Migrating FreeBsd installation to another hard drive > > Hi, > > I've recently had the job of moving a FreeBsd installation to another > hard drive. > > After quite a lot of reading I got round to following this article[1] > using a VMWare FreeBsd instance. In brief the article uses dump and > restore to move the data from one mounted partition to another in single > user mode. It also suggests that before you do this, you perform a > minimum install on the destination disk to ensure that it boots fine. > > First time round, I did the minimum install and then followed the steps > (minus the MAKEDEV step as I'm running 5.3R) to backup the data to the > destination. This all worked fine. > > Second time round, I didn't do a minimum install, rather I just set-up > the slice and partitions on the destination using sysinstall, and then > did the dump/restore. On booting from the destination disk this time, > nothing happened. I reasoned that it was because I had no boot manager > installed and so went ahead and used boot0cfg -B to install the FreeBsd > boot manager. The disk now boots; however, I would prefer to use the > equivalent of the 'Standard - Install a standard MBR (no boot manager)' > option from sysinstall as FreeBsd is the only OS on the disk and so I > don't need the option of booting to it or anything else. I'm guessing > that I would use fdisk to do this but if so am not entirely sure how. > In addition, is this safe to perform on a disk with data or would I need > to go through the dump/restore process again? > > One final question is whether the dump/restore process is the best > approach in this instance? I have read about using dd but am not > entirely sure whether this would do what I need? > > Thanks in advance for any help, > > Chris > > [1] http://bsdvault.net/sections.php?op=viewarticle&artid=121 > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jul 7 15:20:07 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D9A9516A41C; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 15:20:07 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from FreeBSD@keyslapper.net) Received: from mail-relay4.mirrorimage.net (mail-relay4.mirrorimage.net [65.219.237.195]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 932AB43D46; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 15:20:07 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from FreeBSD@keyslapper.net) Received: from localhost (leblanc.eng.mirrorimage.net [65.219.237.158]) by mail-relay4.mirrorimage.net (Postfix) with SMTP id B8F1F69265; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 11:20:06 -0400 (EDT) Received: by localhost (sSMTP sendmail emulation); Thu, 7 Jul 2005 11:21:10 -0400 Date: Thu, 7 Jul 2005 11:21:10 -0400 From: Louis LeBlanc To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20050707152110.GB2096@keyslapper.net> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, questions@freebsd.org References: <002301c582fd$0e89dd20$c800a8c0@MEGADROID> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="LZvS9be/3tNcYl/X" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <002301c582fd$0e89dd20$c800a8c0@MEGADROID> X-PGP-Key: http://www.keyslapper.net/~leblanc/leblanc-at-keyslapper-net.asc User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.9i Cc: Subject: Re: ports: www/jakarata-tomcat* X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 07 Jul 2005 15:20:08 -0000 --LZvS9be/3tNcYl/X Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 07/07/05 04:06 PM, Chris Knipe sat at the `puter and typed: > Lo all, >=20 > root@pyro:/usr/ports/www/jakarta-tomcat41# make WITHOUT_X11=3Dyes install= =20 > clean > jakarta-tomcat-4.1.31_1: Environment error: "JAVA_PORT" should not be=20 > defined. > *** Error code 1 >=20 >=20 > I did tripple check, at the time of running make, the variable is NOT=20 > defined. I can't install any of the tomcat versions.... Help??? Are you sure that didn't say "JAVA_HOME"? That gets me every time I try to upgrade Tomcat. Just `unset JAVA_HOME` then try again. Good luck. Lou --=20 Louis LeBlanc FreeBSD-at-keyslapper-DOT-net Fully Funded Hobbyist, KeySlapper Extrordinaire :) Please send off-list email to: leblanc at keyslapper d.t net Key fingerprint =3D C5E7 4762 F071 CE3B ED51 4FB8 AF85 A2FE 80C8 D9A2 Allen's Axiom: When all else fails, read the instructions. --LZvS9be/3tNcYl/X Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.1 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFCzUhmr4Wi/oDI2aIRAtQnAKCJ4fl++kXZUmIfOVEH3nLTkT+RlgCfeg2O pU5ruo8c5xM4xa1ai/jr9M8= =aY+S -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --LZvS9be/3tNcYl/X-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jul 7 15:20:07 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D9A9516A41C; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 15:20:07 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from FreeBSD@keyslapper.net) Received: from mail-relay4.mirrorimage.net (mail-relay4.mirrorimage.net [65.219.237.195]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 932AB43D46; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 15:20:07 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from FreeBSD@keyslapper.net) Received: from localhost (leblanc.eng.mirrorimage.net [65.219.237.158]) by mail-relay4.mirrorimage.net (Postfix) with SMTP id B8F1F69265; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 11:20:06 -0400 (EDT) Received: by localhost (sSMTP sendmail emulation); Thu, 7 Jul 2005 11:21:10 -0400 Date: Thu, 7 Jul 2005 11:21:10 -0400 From: Louis LeBlanc To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20050707152110.GB2096@keyslapper.net> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, questions@freebsd.org References: <002301c582fd$0e89dd20$c800a8c0@MEGADROID> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="LZvS9be/3tNcYl/X" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <002301c582fd$0e89dd20$c800a8c0@MEGADROID> X-PGP-Key: http://www.keyslapper.net/~leblanc/leblanc-at-keyslapper-net.asc User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.9i Cc: Subject: Re: ports: www/jakarata-tomcat* X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 07 Jul 2005 15:20:08 -0000 --LZvS9be/3tNcYl/X Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 07/07/05 04:06 PM, Chris Knipe sat at the `puter and typed: > Lo all, >=20 > root@pyro:/usr/ports/www/jakarta-tomcat41# make WITHOUT_X11=3Dyes install= =20 > clean > jakarta-tomcat-4.1.31_1: Environment error: "JAVA_PORT" should not be=20 > defined. > *** Error code 1 >=20 >=20 > I did tripple check, at the time of running make, the variable is NOT=20 > defined. I can't install any of the tomcat versions.... Help??? Are you sure that didn't say "JAVA_HOME"? That gets me every time I try to upgrade Tomcat. Just `unset JAVA_HOME` then try again. Good luck. Lou --=20 Louis LeBlanc FreeBSD-at-keyslapper-DOT-net Fully Funded Hobbyist, KeySlapper Extrordinaire :) Please send off-list email to: leblanc at keyslapper d.t net Key fingerprint =3D C5E7 4762 F071 CE3B ED51 4FB8 AF85 A2FE 80C8 D9A2 Allen's Axiom: When all else fails, read the instructions. --LZvS9be/3tNcYl/X Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.1 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFCzUhmr4Wi/oDI2aIRAtQnAKCJ4fl++kXZUmIfOVEH3nLTkT+RlgCfeg2O pU5ruo8c5xM4xa1ai/jr9M8= =aY+S -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --LZvS9be/3tNcYl/X-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jul 7 15:22:24 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 92A6A16A41C for ; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 15:22:24 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from savage@savage.za.org) Received: from pyro.cenergynetworks.com (pyro.cenergynetworks.com [196.30.191.122]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 16A7243D49 for ; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 15:22:21 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from savage@savage.za.org) Received: from localhost.cenergynetworks.com ([127.0.0.1] helo=pyro.cenergynetworks.com) by pyro.cenergynetworks.com with smtp (Exim 4.51) id 1DqYCh-000GKL-ro for freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org; Thu, 07 Jul 2005 17:22:20 +0200 Received: from wblv-146-210-215.telkomadsl.co.za ([165.146.210.215] helo=MEGADROID) by pyro.cenergynetworks.com with esmtpa (Exim 4.51) id 1DqYCV-000GK9-qD for freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org; Thu, 07 Jul 2005 17:22:07 +0200 Message-ID: <019a01c58307$8c4bba30$c800a8c0@MEGADROID> From: "Chris Knipe" To: References: <002301c582fd$0e89dd20$c800a8c0@MEGADROID> <20050707152110.GB2096@keyslapper.net> Date: Thu, 7 Jul 2005 17:21:27 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2527 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2527 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.0.4 (2005-06-05) on pyro.cenergynetworks.com X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, score=1.7 required=5.0 tests=RCVD_IN_NJABL_DUL autolearn=no version=3.0.4 X-PMX-Version: 4.7.1.128075, Antispam-Engine: 2.0.3.0, Antispam-Data: 2005.3.10.17 Cc: Subject: Re: ports: www/jakarata-tomcat* X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 07 Jul 2005 15:22:24 -0000 Nopes. I'm sure I'm afraid... root@pyro:~# cd /usr/ports/www/jakarta-tomcat41/ root@pyro:/usr/ports/www/jakarta-tomcat41# unset JAVA_HOME root@pyro:/usr/ports/www/jakarta-tomcat41# make WITHOUT_X11=yes install clean jakarta-tomcat-4.1.31_1: Environment error: "JAVA_PORT" should not be defined. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/ports/www/jakarta-tomcat41. root@pyro:/usr/ports/www/jakarta-tomcat41# -- Chis. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Louis LeBlanc" To: ; Sent: Thursday, July 07, 2005 5:21 PM Subject: Re: ports: www/jakarata-tomcat* From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jul 7 15:23:37 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5A22C16A41C for ; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 15:23:37 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from pauls@utdallas.edu) Received: from smtp1.utdallas.edu (smtp1.utdallas.edu [129.110.10.12]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2610143D5D for ; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 15:23:36 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from pauls@utdallas.edu) Received: from utd59514.utdallas.edu (utd59514.utdallas.edu [129.110.3.28]) by smtp1.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3F558388FB2; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 10:23:36 -0500 (CDT) Date: Thu, 07 Jul 2005 10:23:36 -0500 From: Paul Schmehl To: "M. Goodell" , FreeBSD Questions Message-ID: <56CD547C4976D1542F74E67B@utd59514.utdallas.edu> In-Reply-To: <20050707031837.52528.qmail@web32403.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <20050707031837.52528.qmail@web32403.mail.mud.yahoo.com> X-Mailer: Mulberry/3.1.6 (Linux/x86) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Cc: Subject: Re: imap-uw / squirrellmail / mysql / postfix / postfixadmin question X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 07 Jul 2005 15:23:37 -0000 --On Wednesday, July 06, 2005 20:18:37 -0700 "M. Goodell" wrote: > Hello, > > I have successfully installed: imap-uw / squirrellmail / mysql / postfix > / PostfixAdmin and have setup postfix virtual domain capability. Postfix > accepts mail for virtual hosts / accounts that I configured with > PostfixAdmin very well. Watching the mail log the mail arrives and is > delivered to the /usr/local/virtual/ directory with no problems at all. > However, the problem I have having is I cannot get SquirrellMail / > imap-uw to access the mailboxes I have setup for any of the virtual > domains / accounts. It keeps giving me a login error like the user does > not exist. I am able to use SquirrellMail to get mail for "real" system > accounts with ease. > I think I need to somehow get imap-uw / squirrellmail to recognize the > virtual domains & accounts but I am not sure how to do it. > Can anyone shed some light on the problem ? > The accounts have to exist somewhere. The system accounts exist in /etc/passwd. Where do the virtual accounts exist? Are you using cyrus-sasl? Paul Schmehl (pauls@utdallas.edu) Adjunct Information Security Officer University of Texas at Dallas AVIEN Founding Member http://www.utdallas.edu/ir/security/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jul 7 15:34:21 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C9A9116A41C for ; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 15:34:21 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from shantanoo@gmail.com) Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.193]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6437C43D4C for ; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 15:34:21 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from shantanoo@gmail.com) Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id p8so98147nzb for ; Thu, 07 Jul 2005 08:34:20 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=I5e3Sq/cC6LHVfPxjWx6xMsBwmBLCKFOEyL9TVuEoulReOIjemNgrSmJ56iVFW36jebCmqJzGBIuCRVRfICGprl3+rsJ0xFQL88xcKf/LfYDm0nVOTtJXREtLmBMleDdTPR75Tjf4f3t0sjuHPvorHkfeYCcHM3rcIrNV0SC4h4= Received: by 10.36.4.14 with SMTP id 14mr349562nzd; Thu, 07 Jul 2005 08:34:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.7.14 with HTTP; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 08:34:20 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <23017470050707083439ac40bd@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 7 Jul 2005 21:04:20 +0530 From: =?UTF-8?Q?=E0=A4=B6=E0=A4=82=E0=A4=A4=E0=A4=A8=E0=A5=81_=28Shantanoo=29?= To: Andrey Simonenko In-Reply-To: <20050707102451.GA222@pm514-9.comsys.ntu-kpi.kiev.ua> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline References: <20050707102451.GA222@pm514-9.comsys.ntu-kpi.kiev.ua> Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Electrical circuits simulator X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: =?UTF-8?Q?=E0=A4=B6=E0=A4=82=E0=A4=A4=E0=A4=A8=E0=A5=81_=28Shantanoo=29?= List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 07 Jul 2005 15:34:21 -0000 On 7/7/05, Andrey Simonenko wrote: > Hello all, >=20 > What do you recommend to use for electrical circuits simulating? > I need such software for educational purposes. I found Oregano in > ports/cad, but may be I missed something and there is alternative > with the same or better level of features as Oregano. I haven't check Oregano. But for electrical circuit simulation 'spice' is nice :) Shantanoo From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jul 7 15:35:29 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C257016A41C for ; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 15:35:29 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from savage@savage.za.org) Received: from pyro.cenergynetworks.com (pyro.cenergynetworks.com [196.30.191.122]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2D10A43D53 for ; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 15:35:29 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from savage@savage.za.org) Received: from localhost.cenergynetworks.com ([127.0.0.1] helo=pyro.cenergynetworks.com) by pyro.cenergynetworks.com with smtp (Exim 4.51) id 1DqYPP-000Gbq-sk; Thu, 07 Jul 2005 17:35:28 +0200 Received: from wblv-146-210-215.telkomadsl.co.za ([165.146.210.215] helo=MEGADROID) by pyro.cenergynetworks.com with esmtpa (Exim 4.51) id 1DqYP7-000GbP-qR; Thu, 07 Jul 2005 17:35:09 +0200 Message-ID: <01c101c58309$5e1d9af0$c800a8c0@MEGADROID> From: "Chris Knipe" To: "John McAree" , References: <53340.193.138.107.178.1120750262.squirrel@193.138.107.178> Date: Thu, 7 Jul 2005 17:34:26 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2527 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2527 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.0.4 (2005-06-05) on pyro.cenergynetworks.com X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, score=1.7 required=5.0 tests=RCVD_IN_NJABL_DUL autolearn=no version=3.0.4 X-PMX-Version: 4.7.1.128075, Antispam-Engine: 2.0.3.0, Antispam-Data: 2005.3.10.17 Cc: Subject: Re: ports: www/jakarata-tomcat* X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 07 Jul 2005 15:35:29 -0000 > What about /etc/make.conf or the Makefiles in the jakarta-tomcat ports > directories? > > John. > > Thanks John :) /etc/make.conf had it defined. -- Chris. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jul 7 15:45:18 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6B65116A41C for ; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 15:45:18 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from matt@atopia.net) Received: from neptune.atopia.net (neptune.atopia.net [209.128.231.90]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 335F443D53 for ; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 15:45:18 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from matt@atopia.net) Received: by neptune.atopia.net (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 75A03637F; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 11:45:17 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by neptune.atopia.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 73D6A637E for ; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 11:45:17 -0400 (EDT) Date: Thu, 7 Jul 2005 11:45:17 -0400 (EDT) From: Matt Juszczak To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20050707114448.O3620@neptune.atopia.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Subject: procmail kill problems in dmesg? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 07 Jul 2005 15:45:18 -0000 Getting flooded with: pid 65128 (procmail), uid 3005: exited on signal 11 pid 65138 (procmail), uid 806: exited on signal 11 pid 65142 (procmail), uid 24112: exited on signal 11 pid 65143 (procmail), uid 11977: exited on signal 11 pid 65146 (procmail), uid 29601: exited on signal 11 pid 65149 (procmail), uid 18864: exited on signal 11 pid 65239 (procmail), uid 19458: exited on signal 11 pid 65240 (procmail), uid 22242: exited on signal 11 pid 65242 (procmail), uid 2005: exited on signal 11 pid 65244 (procmail), uid 14209: exited on signal 11 pid 65243 (procmail), uid 22118: exited on signal 11 pid 65246 (procmail), uid 17854: exited on signal 11 pid 65247 (procmail), uid 18156: exited on signal 11 pid 65248 (procmail), uid 16655: exited on signal 11 pid 65249 (procmail), uid 18389: exited on signal 11 pid 65250 (procmail), uid 11977: exited on signal 11 pid 65251 (procmail), uid 11110: exited on signal 11 pid 65267 (procmail), uid 1762: exited on signal 11 pid 65349 (procmail), uid 11977: exited on signal 11 pid 65350 (procmail), uid 1982: exited on signal 11 pid 65351 (procmail), uid 15324: exited on signal 11 pid 65433 (procmail), uid 3183: exited on signal 11 pid 65435 (procmail), uid 12280: exited on signal 11 pid 65436 (procmail), uid 11977: exited on signal 11 pid 65534 (procmail), uid 2005: exited on signal 11 pid 65535 (procmail), uid 22662: exited on signal 11 pid 65537 (procmail), uid 24477: exited on signal 11 pid 65538 (procmail), uid 1397: exited on signal 11 pid 65540 (procmail), uid 11645: exited on signal 11 pid 65612 (procmail), uid 21744: exited on signal 11 pid 65621 (procmail), uid 24147: exited on signal 11 pid 65724 (procmail), uid 2005: exited on signal 11 pid 65725 (procmail), uid 580: exited on signal 11 pid 65726 (procmail), uid 11977: exited on signal 11 This is a high traffic mail server .... is this normal? Why does procmail sometimes exit on signal 11 like this? Thanks! -Matt From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jul 7 15:45:37 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8F23F16A41C for ; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 15:45:37 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from mkb@mkbuelow.net) Received: from luzifer.incubus.de (incubus.de [80.237.207.83]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 18D5443D46 for ; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 15:45:36 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from mkb@mkbuelow.net) Received: from drjekyll.mkbuelow.net (p54AAA533.dip0.t-ipconnect.de [84.170.165.51]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by luzifer.incubus.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id BDB5E322EB; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 17:48:27 +0200 (CEST) Received: from drjekyll.mkbuelow.net (mkb@localhost.mkbuelow.net [127.0.0.1]) by drjekyll.mkbuelow.net (8.13.3/8.13.3) with ESMTP id j67Fk4JC013636; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 17:46:05 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from mkb@drjekyll.mkbuelow.net) Message-Id: <200507071546.j67Fk4JC013636@drjekyll.mkbuelow.net> From: Matthias Buelow To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: Message from Lowell Gilbert of "07 Jul 2005 09:57:08 EDT." <44r7eara6j.fsf@be-well.ilk.org> X-Mailer: MH-E 7.84; nmh 1.0.4; XEmacs 21.4 (patch 17) Date: Thu, 07 Jul 2005 17:46:04 +0200 Sender: mkb@mkbuelow.net Cc: Matthias Buelow Subject: Re: disk write barriers X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 07 Jul 2005 15:45:37 -0000 Lowell Gilbert writes: >Do you have a background in OS design? It affects the answer, because >you seem to be referring to access barriers and disk cache flushes >interchangeably, which doesn't make sense, especially on >multiprocessor systems. >From what I understand from some googling, disk write barriers are specially crafted i/o requests (within the vfs/driver infrastructure) that are acted on by block drivers as following: all requests before a barrier request will be completed before any request that follows the barrier is executed. The driver accomplishes that by issuing the respective flush commands (or uses queue ordering or whatever is supported by the drive) or (in the case of IDE/SATA), may disable and reenable the cache on a barrier. Thus, the barrier maintains an on-disk ordering in requests between "earlier" and "later" requests (otherwise the driver and/or the disk could reorder writes at will). Since the system doesn't actually run with the cache disabled because it's only used for flushing at sequence points, neither performance nor drive wearout is negatively influenced (noticably, that is). An actual application of this is, with journaled filesystems, that the journal will get written to disk before the data is updated. This will guarantee filesystem integrity. From what I understand, MS Windows is doing it that way, and Linux is also using that mechanism (with support for SATA disks only in the latest 2.6 kernel, though.) >The problem with caching has nothing to do with flushing the cache; if >you flush the cache often, there's no advantage to using it anyway. >The whole speedup from using on-disk caching comes from the fact that >the drive reorders the writes at will, and lies to the operating >system by saying the writes are done when they aren't. Among other Apparently, performance (and wear&tear) is not overly negatively influenced, since it's used only for periodic flushing after the journal has been written (or potentially, at other events, such as a sync() or fsync() etc.) >obvious problems, this negates the careful ordering calculated by >softupdates. That's where my headaches start. Softupdates doesn't write a journal at intervals but seems to order writes in general, in a continuous way. Therefore, it would appear that there are no such sequence points. I'm not really aware of the details of how softupdates works, so I'm probably wrong. I only know that running with the cache disabled seems to be the only safe way to assure that the ordering done by softupdates isn't broken. But disabling the cache is a no-no on modern drives, since they are constructed to be used with the cache on, and disabling it will yield terrible performance and significantly reduce the MTBF, at least on IDE/SATA drives (I'm not talking about enterprise-grade 15krpm SCSI drives, where the situation might be different). So what's the recommended procedure? Relying on an UPS or that the power will not fail? I mean, I could run fully asynch then and the whole softupdates is of little use, except for (relatively rare) occasions of a kernel crash. >This doesn't follow. Just because you know that your drive supports >disabling the cache does not mean that it is safe to do so. Why is that so? mkb. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jul 7 15:50:28 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 25B6116A41C for ; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 15:50:28 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from perikillo@gmail.com) Received: from rproxy.gmail.com (rproxy.gmail.com [64.233.170.200]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2847643D5D for ; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 15:50:26 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from perikillo@gmail.com) Received: by rproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id b11so196051rne for ; Thu, 07 Jul 2005 08:50:26 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; b=PxHEMQAK0W7zOm1rQTAm0dKtGP4Pb7WTkArsPsosEvbp+PSlAhdIx4fGQcUdmI+Cgt6nrE2MU2SdaA5mS+yuMdq3v82zmduHCmWY+ZmY5gQD1c9vxwHSSXcDWPAxGJJOvIHVSSqnaF9MGd62jvnm0qxGaILXvmmSzlJ6nkmhfnA= Received: by 10.38.86.54 with SMTP id j54mr965510rnb; Thu, 07 Jul 2005 08:50:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.38.98.73 with HTTP; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 08:50:26 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <51d7a5160507070850d8813b1@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 7 Jul 2005 08:50:26 -0700 From: perikillo To: freebsd-x11@freebsd.org, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, x11@FreeBSD.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 Content-Disposition: inline Cc: Subject: Xorg 6.8.2 Big Problems.... 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eXNNb3VzZQo= From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jul 7 16:04:16 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D889216A41C for ; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 16:04:16 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from john@mcaree.org) Received: from orca.netsoc.ucd.ie (orca.ucd.ie [137.43.4.16]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8B86E43D48 for ; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 16:04:16 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from john@mcaree.org) Received: from netsoc.ucd.ie (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by orca.netsoc.ucd.ie (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9939B10755D; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 17:04:13 +0100 (IST) Received: from 193.138.107.178 (SquirrelMail authenticated user jmcaree); by netsoc.ucd.ie with HTTP; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 17:04:13 +0100 (IST) Message-ID: <40756.193.138.107.178.1120752253.squirrel@193.138.107.178> Date: Thu, 7 Jul 2005 17:04:13 +0100 (IST) From: "John McAree" To: sharkwang@gmail.com User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.3a X-Mailer: SquirrelMail/1.4.3a MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Did we must put the mounted partition '/' and '/boot' in the same slice ? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 07 Jul 2005 16:04:17 -0000 > the following is my partitions layout, pls help to do some check: > > ad0s1d /boot -> 30M > ad0s1a / -> 512M > ad0s1b swap -> 512M > ad0s1e /usr -> 6144M > ad0s1f /var -> 512M > ad0s1g /home -> 2017M > ad0s1h /tmp -> 512M I believe /boot needs to be on the first 1024 blocks of the disk. Why do you want a separate partition for /boot? John. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jul 7 16:04:18 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9D50516A41C for ; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 16:04:18 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from john@mcaree.org) Received: from orca.netsoc.ucd.ie (orca.ucd.ie [137.43.4.16]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4DA2D43D49 for ; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 16:04:18 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from john@mcaree.org) Received: from netsoc.ucd.ie (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by orca.netsoc.ucd.ie (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2EFD2107557; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 17:04:12 +0100 (IST) Received: from 193.138.107.178 (SquirrelMail authenticated user jmcaree); by netsoc.ucd.ie with HTTP; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 17:04:12 +0100 (IST) Message-ID: <40133.193.138.107.178.1120752252.squirrel@193.138.107.178> Date: Thu, 7 Jul 2005 17:04:12 +0100 (IST) From: "John McAree" To: sharkwang@gmail.com User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.3a X-Mailer: SquirrelMail/1.4.3a MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Did we must put the mounted partition '/' and '/boot' in the same slice ? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 07 Jul 2005 16:04:18 -0000 > the following is my partitions layout, pls help to do some check: > > ad0s1d /boot -> 30M > ad0s1a / -> 512M > ad0s1b swap -> 512M > ad0s1e /usr -> 6144M > ad0s1f /var -> 512M > ad0s1g /home -> 2017M > ad0s1h /tmp -> 512M I believe /boot needs to be on the first 1024 blocks of the disk. Why do you want a separate partition for /boot? John. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jul 7 16:13:58 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0590B16A41C for ; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 16:13:58 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from hornetmadness@gmail.com) Received: from rproxy.gmail.com (rproxy.gmail.com [64.233.170.202]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 639C043D46 for ; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 16:13:57 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from hornetmadness@gmail.com) Received: by rproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 1so63940rny for ; Thu, 07 Jul 2005 09:13:56 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=EDeJTYCfDXS5JUiwrdQPBUsW4UeS6eTz5YClJ4Sz40EhcUPFmrTq2vYU1nh1AzO1bUIFBSqv7ZE4bPlN8NU3VRDIiztNBbOiqtfzZTqJpmTfMLCNUB6niNz6AXX4tidt9EENyZeS+3Z8vmnYE+woU8t7MY8Hz+XhH9FCRIpQPXI= Received: by 10.38.95.9 with SMTP id s9mr3376639rnb; Thu, 07 Jul 2005 09:13:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.38.8.44 with HTTP; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 09:13:56 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Thu, 7 Jul 2005 12:13:56 -0400 From: Hornet To: questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <20050707142311.GL2792@rabbit> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline References: <20050707142311.GL2792@rabbit> Cc: Subject: Re: Network Debugging X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Hornet List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 07 Jul 2005 16:13:58 -0000 On 7/7/05, Mark Bucciarelli wrote: > I'm trying to improve the performance of our rural homebrew wireless > broadband and am hoping some of the folks here can give me a pointer or > two as to what network monitoring tools I should use. >=20 > Background: >=20 > - my internet access is five wireless and five wired hops downstream > from a 1/2 T1 (ten Buffalo AirStation G54 routers in all). >=20 > - my connection has a lot of jitter--ping's usually vary from 10ms to > 150ms within a two second window >=20 > - FWIU, jitter is related to congestion >=20 > - I have setup a FreeBSD box to monitor [1] each router along the path > using smokeping. >=20 > The smokeping charts are showing me some interesting stuff. Here is > some data from the past three hours (I am using the smokeping default of > 20 pings sent every five minutes): >=20 > |--------- Building 1 --------------| |--- Bldg 0 --... >=20 > +-----------+ +------------+ +-----------+ > | .203 | | .202 | | .201 | > | Router In |<- wire ->| Router Out |<- wireless ->| Router In | > +-----------+ +------------+ +-----------+ >=20 > avg RTT: 7.3ms 12.1ms 7.8ms >=20 > % lost: 2.37% 14.25% 2.64% >=20 > max RTT: 20ms 80ms 13ms >=20 >=20 > My FreeBSD box is a four more wireless hops to the left of .203. >=20 > A slew of questions ... >=20 > What is going on here? >=20 > I am confused by the max RTT readings and packet loss stats for .202 and > .201. How can a router further away from me have better performance? Most routers put a lower priority on ICMP, If the middle router has a higher load on it (which by your diagram it should), then the B router would be slower to respond to ICMP. Try using MTR (Matt's traceroute) It will give your real time stats on your network hack. >=20 > Over the past 13 hours, the averages are consistent with the three-hour > averages, while the Max RTT discrepancies are even higher: >=20 > .203 / .202 / .201 =3D 20ms / 145ms / 13ms. >=20 > Is .202 congested? >=20 > Is the .202 router "bad"? >=20 > How can I debug this further? SNMP? >=20 > If SNMP, what values should I track/inspect? > - # of packets with errors? > - # of queued packets? > - ?? >=20 > Thanks for any pointers, >=20 > m >=20 > [1] Pentium II 350MHz with 4 Gb drive, underclocked to 100MHz so I can > turn off the power supply fan and make it real quiet. :) >=20 > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.o= rg" > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jul 7 16:26:14 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 340FA16A41C for ; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 16:26:14 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ruben@bloemgarten.demon.nl) Received: from post-22.mail.nl.demon.net (post-22.mail.nl.demon.net [194.159.73.192]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C4E6643D46 for ; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 16:26:13 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ruben@bloemgarten.demon.nl) Received: from axelds.demon.nl ([83.160.138.74]:12973 helo=abubbletprpdda) by post-22.mail.nl.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1DqZCW-0003YW-M6; Thu, 07 Jul 2005 16:26:12 +0000 From: "Ruben Bloemgarten" To: "'Chris Roos'" Date: Thu, 7 Jul 2005 18:25:57 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1250" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook, Build 11.0.6353 In-Reply-To: <42CD468B.7020004@seagul.co.uk> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1506 Thread-Index: AcWDBmgh/XsIO8xCTruaff+6AxVDQwACCw8A Message-Id: <20050707162613.C4E6643D46@mx1.FreeBSD.org> Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: RE: Migrating FreeBsd installation to another hard drive X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: ruben@bloemgarten.demon.nl List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 07 Jul 2005 16:26:14 -0000 That would be "# fdisk -BI /dev/ar0" "B" for bootable. The FBSD boot manager is on slice *a which is left intact when using dump. The reason I went to an intermediate drive is . . . I only had two slots available on SATA backpane. Oh and check out http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/boot-blocks.html Good luck, Ruben -----Original Message----- From: Chris Roos [mailto:chris@seagul.co.uk] Sent: July 07, 2005 5:13 PM To: ruben@bloemgarten.demon.nl Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Migrating FreeBsd installation to another hard drive Thanks for the time taken to detail all of the steps. I think I am doing roughly the same thing except you are going via from _source_ to _intemediary_ back to _source_ once the RAID is sorted. I am going straight from _source_ to _destination_. I may be wrong but do any of your steps below involve writing the standard mbr (not the freebsd boot manager) to the drive? Thanks for your help, Chris Ruben Bloemgarten wrote: > Hi there, > I had to do something similar i.e. change RAID levels, there is no need to > install anything. Just use the fixit CD. Here is my procedure : > Ofcourse you'll have to change disk[slice] names to what suits you. NOTE: I > used tar for the /usr slice as I had some size constraints and therefore > needed some compression ( I could have piped the dump to gzip ofcourse, but > didn't). In my opinion dump&restore is the best procedure. But dd works as > well. > Regards, > Ruben > > 1. boot from CD > 2. goto fixit CD > 3. create new mount point > --> # mkdir /new_mnt > 4. mount external drive /new_mnt > --> # mount /dev/da0s1 /new_mnt > 5. mount / on /mnt > # mount /dev/ar0s1a /mnt > 6. backup fstab and bsdlabel > --> # cp /mnt/etc/fstab /new_mnt/fstab.BAK > # bsdlabel ar0s1 > /new_mnt/bsdlabel.BAK > 7. dump / > --> # umount /mnt > # dump -0au -C 32 -f /new_mnt/root_dump /dev/ar0s1a > 8. dump /var > --> # dump -0au -C 32 -f /new_mnt/var_dump /dev/ar0s1e > 9. tar /usr ( or only those subsystems which contain userdata > (dbase,mail,etc) > --> # mount /dev/ar0s1f /mnt > # cd /mnt > # tar czf /new_mnt/usr_tar.tar.gz ./ > 10.unmount all mounted filesystems > --> # umount /mnt > # umount /new_mnt > 11. exit fixit and boot CD > 12. power down > 13. replace disks > 14. boot to RAID config tool > 15. set array to RAID0 > 16. reboot to CD > 17. exit to FIXIT > 18. erase current disklabel & create new label with one slice > --> # dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/ar0 bs=512 count=32 > # fdisk -BI /dev/ar0 > # dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/ar0s1 bs=512 count=32 > # bsdlabel -w -B ar0s1 > 19. read disklabel & note c partition value > 20. mount external disk & edit saved slice (step 6) > 21. write edited label to disk > 22. --> # bsdlabel -R /dev/ar0s1 /new_mnt > 23. --> # newfs /dev/ar0s1[a,d,e,f) > 24. --> # mount /dev/ar0s1d /tmp > 25. --> # export TMPDIR=/tmp > 26. mount & restore / > --> # mount /dev/ar0s1a /mnt > # cd /mnt > # restore rf [PATHNAME_TO_root_dump] > 27. umounting / and mount & restore /var > --> # cd .. > # umount /mnt > # mount /dev/ar0s1e /mnt > # cd /mnt > # restore rf [PATHNAME_TO_var_dump] > 28. extracting usr_tar.tar.gz into /usr > --> # cd .. > # umount /mnt > # mount /dev/ar0s1f /mnt > # cd /mnt > # tar xzvf [PATHNAME_TO_usrtar] ./ > 29. umount all open filesystems > --> # umount /tmp > # umount /mnt > # umount /new_mnt > 30. exit single user mode and startup > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > [mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org] On Behalf Of Chris Roos > Sent: July 06, 2005 6:11 PM > To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > Subject: Migrating FreeBsd installation to another hard drive > > Hi, > > I've recently had the job of moving a FreeBsd installation to another > hard drive. > > After quite a lot of reading I got round to following this article[1] > using a VMWare FreeBsd instance. In brief the article uses dump and > restore to move the data from one mounted partition to another in single > user mode. It also suggests that before you do this, you perform a > minimum install on the destination disk to ensure that it boots fine. > > First time round, I did the minimum install and then followed the steps > (minus the MAKEDEV step as I'm running 5.3R) to backup the data to the > destination. This all worked fine. > > Second time round, I didn't do a minimum install, rather I just set-up > the slice and partitions on the destination using sysinstall, and then > did the dump/restore. On booting from the destination disk this time, > nothing happened. I reasoned that it was because I had no boot manager > installed and so went ahead and used boot0cfg -B to install the FreeBsd > boot manager. The disk now boots; however, I would prefer to use the > equivalent of the 'Standard - Install a standard MBR (no boot manager)' > option from sysinstall as FreeBsd is the only OS on the disk and so I > don't need the option of booting to it or anything else. I'm guessing > that I would use fdisk to do this but if so am not entirely sure how. > In addition, is this safe to perform on a disk with data or would I need > to go through the dump/restore process again? > > One final question is whether the dump/restore process is the best > approach in this instance? I have read about using dd but am not > entirely sure whether this would do what I need? > > Thanks in advance for any help, > > Chris > > [1] http://bsdvault.net/sections.php?op=viewarticle&artid=121 > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.323 / Virus Database: 267.8.10/43 - Release Date: 07/06/2005 -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.323 / Virus Database: 267.8.10/43 - Release Date: 07/06/2005 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.323 / Virus Database: 267.8.10/43 - Release Date: 07/06/2005 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jul 7 16:29:52 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3D39D16A41C for ; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 16:29:52 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from datora@gmail.com) Received: from rproxy.gmail.com (rproxy.gmail.com [64.233.170.204]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BCB3A43D45 for ; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 16:29:51 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from datora@gmail.com) Received: by rproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 1so65004rny for ; Thu, 07 Jul 2005 09:29:51 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=ITEFINDznBMM4FDpZdAuLeqVSBx8HEk63bIfbLdoPn5Qto9Bvk4RUjFZCxP+MeAlJ9LusuBWpmcoY2YY/mmQCrW6MYR3BSxeD2xLadMefwfp/mQh5hqLdugtPkD3zOkH6mv6tVdrUbTzBxUC4HJD8OEgtMIKmM6yyBYcPQTzzDo= Received: by 10.11.55.24 with SMTP id d24mr109277cwa; Thu, 07 Jul 2005 09:29:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.11.119.32 with HTTP; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 09:29:51 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <7d672918050707092940507d51@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 7 Jul 2005 19:29:51 +0300 From: datora tehnika To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <42CD4A55.50905@meijome.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline References: <7d6729180507070226592ac04c@mail.gmail.com> <7d672918050707044238c064fd@mail.gmail.com> <42CD4A55.50905@meijome.net> Subject: Re: ftp access Q's to ftp.freeBSD & mirrors X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: datora tehnika List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 07 Jul 2005 16:29:52 -0000 Hey all -- Am reading through http://sourceforge.net/projects/filezilla as these messages came in. Going on third recommendation for this : > Freebsd installer guide. www.a1poweruser.com THANKS! I have it already ! ;-) Downloaded & ready to read off-line for the next couple of days. Have also grokked through ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/doc/en/ for articles & handbook.=20 Sketching out install strategy for multi-boot systems .. .but will post those as separate questions as I formulate them. Using postal mail to Latvia isn't a tech problem ... it's a small cost and time nightmare. If there was something I really wanted or need mailed, sure, but the economics here are near first-world prices at third-world wages, so throwing money away is not a good survival strategy. And, waiting around three or four weeks for mail to arrive (maybe even unmolested by the postal workers) just isn't time effective. Current update is that I seem to be connecting via ftp .. it looks like I was leaving a trailing slash on the URL as pasted from the web browser. Have now established ftp connections to a couple of mirrors & ready to go with the one w/ best speed; looks like 30 Kbits/sec is max for the region. FileZilla looks like the way to go. If I don't have my ISO's within 15 or 18 hours, I'll ask again. Just now getting FileZilla DL'd & installed & learning the interface enough to get it going with the resume feature active. Sorry, but got side-tracked by the London bombings today. Got a couple of friends working there I'm trying to get ahold of. No joy yet. I know the odds are in their favor ... but I also lost an acquaintance in the WTC on 9/11, so I'm a bit distracted. Tech is fun & career, but that's 2ndary to friends. Thanks all for jumping in to help out ! Hopefully I'll be a contributing member before too much longer. More serious questions regarding multi-boot systems and dual-processor kernal configuration are about to follow. Trust me on that ... ;-) -- datora serfing the stream electric From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jul 7 16:41:48 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D7B9716A41C for ; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 16:41:48 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: from aiolos.otenet.gr (aiolos.otenet.gr [195.170.0.93]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 05AA543D46 for ; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 16:41:47 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: from beatrix.daedalusnetworks.priv (aris.bedc.ondsl.gr [62.103.39.226]) by aiolos.otenet.gr (8.13.4/8.13.4/Debian-1) with SMTP id j67Gfh7h018405; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 19:41:44 +0300 Received: from beatrix.daedalusnetworks.priv (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by beatrix.daedalusnetworks.priv (8.13.3+Sun/8.13.3) with ESMTP id j67GfhGR002023; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 19:41:43 +0300 (EEST) Received: (from keramida@localhost) by beatrix.daedalusnetworks.priv (8.13.3+Sun/8.13.3/Submit) id j67GfgXu002022; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 19:41:42 +0300 (EEST) X-Authentication-Warning: beatrix.daedalusnetworks.priv: keramida set sender to keramida@ceid.upatras.gr using -f Date: Thu, 7 Jul 2005 19:41:42 +0300 From: Giorgos Keramidas To: Matt Juszczak Message-ID: <20050707164142.GA1503@beatrix.daedalusnetworks.priv> References: <20050707114448.O3620@neptune.atopia.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20050707114448.O3620@neptune.atopia.net> Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: procmail kill problems in dmesg? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 07 Jul 2005 16:41:49 -0000 On 2005-07-07 11:45, Matt Juszczak wrote: > > Getting flooded with: > > pid 65128 (procmail), uid 3005: exited on signal 11 > pid 65138 (procmail), uid 806: exited on signal 11 > pid 65142 (procmail), uid 24112: exited on signal 11 > [...] > This is a high traffic mail server .... is this normal? Why does > procmail sometimes exit on signal 11 like this? Signal 11 is a segmentation fault. This _might_ be an indication of hardware/memory problems. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jul 7 16:48:55 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C12CB16A41C for ; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 16:48:55 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from korpuskularny@o2.pl) Received: from kogut.o2.pl (kogut.o2.pl [212.126.20.60]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C825E43D46 for ; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 16:48:54 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from korpuskularny@o2.pl) Received: from dqa97.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl (dqa97.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl [83.24.160.97]) by kogut.o2.pl (o2.pl Mailer 2.0.1) with ESMTP id 4B8CDCBA47 for ; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 18:48:51 +0200 (CEST) Date: Thu, 7 Jul 2005 18:48:54 +0200 From: Piotr Baranowski X-Mailer: The Bat! (v3.5.30) UNREG / CD5BF9353B3B7091 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <40871880.20050707184854@o2.pl> To: FreeBSD-question MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: hang-up's on clean FreeBSD 5.4 on compilation X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Piotr Baranowski List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 07 Jul 2005 16:48:55 -0000 Hello I have posted before, about my problems with Kernel compilation. Now it's bigger problem ;-) I still can't compile the kernel. Now i reinstalled FreeBSD 5.4, totally clean download. It's just for education/fun, so i can do that.. for now. I choosed Standard install, Devel distribution, and installed linux base. One additional package: CVSup. Nothing more, nothing less. After installation, i used CVSup to get newest source [ src-all ]. Then i ran: 1) cd /usr/src 2) make buildworld it hanged up my PC.. i tried this several times, and it hangs up in different places, always on 'cc' command. Maybe it's something with my memory? Now i'm DLing release CDs, maybe it's something with net install, wrong packages, or something. Do i have to configure 'make' in some way before compiling anything? Everything seems to be ok, but it just don't work ;-) > 1) check that you have sources. reinstall sources from CD or recvsup. > 2) check that you have correct version of C compiler. Try compile simple > C program. > 3) do "rm -fr /usr/obj/usr/src/sys/OWIEC" > 4) then try second, and correct method i have sources, i tried to compile mc from ports, it's throwing 'no such file' errors, i removed OWIEC and tried second method - i had same errors > That's wrong. You are trying to build just a kernel, before a userland > has been compiled. Use "make buildworld" and "make buildkernel", unless > you know exactly what you are doing and why. Now i know :-) I tried to 'make buildworld', but it haged my PC, then i now - after install - i'll try some mem tests. In most cases i don't know exactly what i'm doing - i'm just learning. > Hmmm. You haven't by any chance overwritten the system version of > make(1) with GNU make, right? Nope. I did only the Devel without X-server install. Now and then. > What do you see when you try to run the command: > > # make --version it returns: # make --version make: illegal option -- - usage: make I always had bad influence on Unix-like systems ;-) I tried many different Linux dists: from old RedHat, SuSe to Debian, Gentoo and Slack.. i always have problems ;-) But now i'm gonna be tough :-) TIA Piotr From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jul 7 17:03:51 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9A5BC16A41C for ; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 17:03:51 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from legalois@acm.org) Received: from smtp11.wanadoo.fr (smtp11.wanadoo.fr [193.252.22.31]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4135A43D45 for ; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 17:03:51 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from legalois@acm.org) Received: from me-wanadoo.net (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf1108.wanadoo.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id C1AEE1C00049 for ; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 19:03:49 +0200 (CEST) Received: from [192.168.0.4] (ADijon-151-1-10-234.w83-194.abo.wanadoo.fr [83.194.118.234]) by mwinf1108.wanadoo.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 697061C00044; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 19:03:49 +0200 (CEST) X-ME-UUID: 20050707170349432.697061C00044@mwinf1108.wanadoo.fr Message-ID: <42CD5E9E.7040904@acm.org> Date: Thu, 07 Jul 2005 18:55:58 +0200 From: legalois User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.2 (X11/20050325) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Bob Hall References: <20050706191003.GA79388@kongemord.krig.net> In-Reply-To: <20050706191003.GA79388@kongemord.krig.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: perl-after-upgrade X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 07 Jul 2005 17:03:51 -0000 Bob Hall wrote: > I don't know squat about perl. I recently ran portupgrade, which > upgraded perl. Goose stopped working, because the location for Curses.pm > was no longer in @INC. I tried to run perl-after-upgrade, but I couldn't > get it to run. I've got a book that said to use > # perl perl-after-upgrade > or > # ./perl-after-upgrade > I also tried just > # perl-after-upgrade > No joy. Just for the heck of it, I tried > * sh perl-after-upgrade > and dang if it didn't run. It didn't look to me like an sh script, but > what do I know? It wasn't supposed to change anything without the -f > option, but goose ran afterward, so it obviously changed things. I > looked for Curses.pm, and it moved to a directory listed in @INC. > > Anybody have any advice? Comments? How was I supposed to get > perl-after-upgrade to run? > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > A longish message appears at the end of the perl upgrade build, that explains how to run perl-after-upgrade. If you overlooked that, the same instructions are at #perldoc perl-after-upgrade If the script is in a directory not in your root's path, find the full path to the script with #locate perl-after-upgrade (but make sure your locate db is up-to-date, first). - Jacques From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jul 7 17:10:21 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 26B9F16A41C for ; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 17:10:21 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from xfb52@dial.pipex.com) Received: from smtp-out6.blueyonder.co.uk (smtp-out6.blueyonder.co.uk [195.188.213.9]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A1ACE43D46 for ; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 17:10:19 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from xfb52@dial.pipex.com) Received: from [82.41.37.55] ([82.41.37.55]) by smtp-out6.blueyonder.co.uk with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.6713); Thu, 7 Jul 2005 18:11:01 +0100 Message-ID: <42CD61FA.5000105@dial.pipex.com> Date: Thu, 07 Jul 2005 18:10:18 +0100 From: Alex Zbyslaw User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-GB; rv:1.7.8) Gecko/20050530 X-Accept-Language: en, en-us, pl MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Chris Roos References: <42CC027B.7030808@seagul.co.uk> <42CC0E55.5040300@dial.pipex.com> <42CD4588.9090208@seagul.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <42CD4588.9090208@seagul.co.uk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-OriginalArrivalTime: 07 Jul 2005 17:11:01.0568 (UTC) FILETIME=[D9BFEC00:01C58316] Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Migrating FreeBsd installation to another hard drive X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 07 Jul 2005 17:10:21 -0000 Chris Roos wrote: > Alex Zbyslaw wrote: > >> Chris Roos wrote: >> >>> One final question is whether the dump/restore process is the best >>> approach in this instance? I have read about using dd but am not >>> entirely sure whether this would do what I need? >>> >> No, you should use dump/restore and if it is the root partition you >> will need to edit fstab afterwards. >> > Can I just double check that the editing of fstab is only applicable > if my device names change? Correct. If the device will end up on the same controller and logical position (master, slave, whatever) then you do not need to edit it. However, if you plan to reboot the machine and just boot off the new disk without changing its position first, then edit fstab. You can always edit it back again before moving the hardware around. --Alex From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jul 7 17:20:48 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2E4D216A41C for ; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 17:20:48 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from matt@atopia.net) Received: from neptune.atopia.net (neptune.atopia.net [209.128.231.90]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E9F1F43D48 for ; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 17:20:47 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from matt@atopia.net) Received: by neptune.atopia.net (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 5E5496398; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 13:20:47 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by neptune.atopia.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5C6BD6386; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 13:20:47 -0400 (EDT) Date: Thu, 7 Jul 2005 13:20:47 -0400 (EDT) From: Matt Juszczak To: Giorgos Keramidas In-Reply-To: <20050707164142.GA1503@beatrix.daedalusnetworks.priv> Message-ID: <20050707131739.M5573@neptune.atopia.net> References: <20050707114448.O3620@neptune.atopia.net> <20050707164142.GA1503@beatrix.daedalusnetworks.priv> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: procmail kill problems in dmesg? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 07 Jul 2005 17:20:48 -0000 > Signal 11 is a segmentation fault. This _might_ be an indication of > hardware/memory problems. Actually all the seg faults signal 11 happened at one time (within 20 seconds), after checking messages .... it hasn't happened since. Could it have been a fluke? -Matt From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jul 7 17:23:59 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4A43416A41C for ; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 17:23:59 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from bkoenig@cs.tu-berlin.de) Received: from mail.efacilitas.de (efacilitas.de [213.133.110.227]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DA18C43D48 for ; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 17:23:58 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from bkoenig@cs.tu-berlin.de) Received: from eurystheus.local (port-212-202-37-29.dynamic.qsc.de [212.202.37.29]) by mail.efacilitas.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id A3BAC12397C; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 19:22:10 +0200 (CEST) Received: from localhost (eurystheus.local [192.168.1.67]) by eurystheus.local (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2B55E12B1CB; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 19:23:51 +0200 (CEST) Received: from eurystheus.local ([192.168.1.67]) by localhost (eurystheus.locaL [192.168.1.67]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 50490-07; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 19:23:40 +0200 (CEST) Received: from [192.168.1.67] (eurystheus.local [192.168.1.67]) by eurystheus.local (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6922212B104; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 19:23:40 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <42CD651A.5070202@cs.tu-berlin.de> Date: Thu, 07 Jul 2005 19:23:38 +0200 From: =?ISO-8859-15?Q?Bj=F6rn_K=F6nig?= User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.7.8) Gecko/20050517 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: shantanoo@gmail.com References: <20050707102451.GA222@pm514-9.comsys.ntu-kpi.kiev.ua> <23017470050707083439ac40bd@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <23017470050707083439ac40bd@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at example.com Cc: simon@comsys.ntu-kpi.kiev.ua, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Electrical circuits simulator X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 07 Jul 2005 17:23:59 -0000 Shantanoo wrote: > I haven't check Oregano. But for electrical circuit simulation 'spice' > is nice :) I used spice too for a few weeks only. It's very powerful, but as far as I know it has no GUI (everybody wants a GUI ;-p) and in my opinion it's very hard to learn quickly without a printed documentation and without lots of examples. By the way, I suggest 'chipmunk' if you want to build circuits with gates, simple controllers, segment displays and so on. Björn From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jul 7 17:24:50 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0332F16A41C for ; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 17:24:50 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: from kane.otenet.gr (kane.otenet.gr [195.170.0.95]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 47DE643D53 for ; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 17:24:48 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: from beatrix.daedalusnetworks.priv (aris.bedc.ondsl.gr [62.103.39.226]) by kane.otenet.gr (8.13.4/8.13.4/Debian-1) with SMTP id j67HOjlp013289; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 20:24:45 +0300 Received: from beatrix.daedalusnetworks.priv (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by beatrix.daedalusnetworks.priv (8.13.3+Sun/8.13.3) with ESMTP id j67HOjPG002830; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 20:24:45 +0300 (EEST) Received: (from keramida@localhost) by beatrix.daedalusnetworks.priv (8.13.3+Sun/8.13.3/Submit) id j67HOjWT002829; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 20:24:45 +0300 (EEST) X-Authentication-Warning: beatrix.daedalusnetworks.priv: keramida set sender to keramida@ceid.upatras.gr using -f Date: Thu, 7 Jul 2005 20:24:45 +0300 From: Giorgos Keramidas To: Matt Juszczak Message-ID: <20050707172445.GA2797@beatrix.daedalusnetworks.priv> References: <20050707114448.O3620@neptune.atopia.net> <20050707164142.GA1503@beatrix.daedalusnetworks.priv> <20050707131739.M5573@neptune.atopia.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20050707131739.M5573@neptune.atopia.net> Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: procmail kill problems in dmesg? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 07 Jul 2005 17:24:50 -0000 On 2005-07-07 13:20, Matt Juszczak wrote: > >Signal 11 is a segmentation fault. This _might_ be an indication of > >hardware/memory problems. > > Actually all the seg faults signal 11 happened at one time (within 20 > seconds), after checking messages .... it hasn't happened since. > > Could it have been a fluke? Do the segfaults only happen when you run procmail? If other programs fail randomly with segfaults, then it's more likely to be a general memory-hardware problem. If it's only procmail that fails it could be just a procmail bug. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jul 7 17:27:45 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6BB4416A41C for ; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 17:27:45 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from xfb52@dial.pipex.com) Received: from smtp-out1.blueyonder.co.uk (smtp-out1.blueyonder.co.uk [195.188.213.4]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BD5E343D49 for ; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 17:27:43 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from xfb52@dial.pipex.com) Received: from [82.41.37.55] ([82.41.37.55]) by smtp-out1.blueyonder.co.uk with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.6713); Thu, 7 Jul 2005 18:28:26 +0100 Message-ID: <42CD660E.8090408@dial.pipex.com> Date: Thu, 07 Jul 2005 18:27:42 +0100 From: Alex Zbyslaw User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-GB; rv:1.7.8) Gecko/20050530 X-Accept-Language: en, en-us, pl MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Shark Wang References: <20050707111924.950B043D58@mx1.FreeBSD.org> <1e22f3590507070420376112f@mail.gmail.com> <42CD2A33.5080503@dial.pipex.com> <1e22f35905070707427dbd31f7@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <1e22f35905070707427dbd31f7@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-OriginalArrivalTime: 07 Jul 2005 17:28:26.0263 (UTC) FILETIME=[486FBA70:01C58319] Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Did we must put the mounted partition '/' and '/boot' in the same slice ? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 07 Jul 2005 17:27:45 -0000 Shark Wang wrote: >I put '/boot' for an individual partition just for 1023 cylinder >story, although FreeBSD did >not need this action ! > >the following is my partitions layout, pls help to do some check: > >ad0s1d /boot -> 30M >ad0s1a / -> 512M >ad0s1b swap -> 512M >ad0s1e /usr -> 6144M >ad0s1f /var -> 512M >ad0s1g /home -> 2017M >ad0s1h /tmp -> 512M > >But after I finished my installation and reboot FreeBSD, it will not >load sccuessfully! > > Do the install again but do not make /boot a partition. 1Gb is more than ample for / and /boot. Given that you have /tmp separately, 256Mb would do. I, at least, never used that much even. /dev/ad12s1a 981527 122405 780600 14% / 1Gb just because it's peanuts to a 200Gb disk, and I don't bother with /tmp separately. For all the talk of the 1024 cylinder problem, I have never encountered it. I suspect that while it was true of older hardware, that it just isn't the case any more. If this is a problem, then it is just the / (root) partition that needs to start inside 1024 cylinders. Apart from that, my opinion is that having swap = 2.5 * memory is still a reasonable rule of thumb. You may never need it but a) it's a tiny fraction of your disk and b) if you expand your memory in the future you still have enough swap. You must have at least as much swap as physical memory. With 1Gb I put in 4Gb of swap, just because it's peanuts compared to a 200Gb disk. If I double my memory, I still have plenty of swap. /var depends on what this machine does. If it is a mailserver then 512M is inadequate, for a home machine it's probably plenty. If you ever need a crash dump from the kernel (and you may *never* need one, but if you do...) then you need as much free disk space as you have physical memory. There was a recent thread about disk sizing (maybe a month ago?) so try searching the archive. I also found this useful when clarifying my thoughts about how to partition a new disk: http://keramida.serverhive.com/weblog/archives/2004-10-26/daemonizing-a-new-disk --Alex From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jul 7 17:30:06 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ACE1B16A41C for ; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 17:30:06 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from freebsdutah@yahoo.com) Received: from web32412.mail.mud.yahoo.com (web32412.mail.mud.yahoo.com [68.142.207.205]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 4CEF443D48 for ; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 17:30:04 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from freebsdutah@yahoo.com) Received: (qmail 65443 invoked by uid 60001); 7 Jul 2005 17:30:04 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=NrqDAkNSD/uAvkJC/RP86FZV8UozbUSIYMeoJ7UmQBHuT69zJhDUEnupi1mS+SmVPUHqsWfe/MvmmJ+bJSWdO6+XXVUx0Qy1Y4wDH7HFm7i5VAbqyMVx9DAwP4miXnYe1b1t8waDRgecNPFdPxpTHrvTdqTmfWXDTKuAonb3PIU= ; Message-ID: <20050707173004.65441.qmail@web32412.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Received: from [63.228.203.249] by web32412.mail.mud.yahoo.com via HTTP; Thu, 07 Jul 2005 10:30:04 PDT Date: Thu, 7 Jul 2005 10:30:04 -0700 (PDT) From: "M. Goodell" To: Paul Schmehl , FreeBSD Questions In-Reply-To: <56CD547C4976D1542F74E67B@utd59514.utdallas.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: Subject: Re: imap-uw / squirrellmail / mysql / postfix / postfixadmin question X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 07 Jul 2005 17:30:06 -0000 The accounts are kept in MySQL via a PostfixAdmin installation. Again, I can deliver mail all day to any virtual host / account I setup in PostfixAdmin but I am not able to get SquirrellMail to login to get the mail. I am using the following group of applicaitons together: imap-uw / squirrellmail / mysql / postfix / postfixadmin Thanks, Michael Paul Schmehl wrote: --On Wednesday, July 06, 2005 20:18:37 -0700 "M. Goodell" wrote: > Hello, > > I have successfully installed: imap-uw / squirrellmail / mysql / postfix > / PostfixAdmin and have setup postfix virtual domain capability. Postfix > accepts mail for virtual hosts / accounts that I configured with > PostfixAdmin very well. Watching the mail log the mail arrives and is > delivered to the /usr/local/virtual/ directory with no problems at all. > However, the problem I have having is I cannot get SquirrellMail / > imap-uw to access the mailboxes I have setup for any of the virtual > domains / accounts. It keeps giving me a login error like the user does > not exist. I am able to use SquirrellMail to get mail for "real" system > accounts with ease. > I think I need to somehow get imap-uw / squirrellmail to recognize the > virtual domains & accounts but I am not sure how to do it. > Can anyone shed some light on the problem ? > The accounts have to exist somewhere. The system accounts exist in /etc/passwd. Where do the virtual accounts exist? Are you using cyrus-sasl? Paul Schmehl (pauls@utdallas.edu) Adjunct Information Security Officer University of Texas at Dallas AVIEN Founding Member http://www.utdallas.edu/ir/security/ _______________________________________________ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jul 7 17:33:08 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A6F4916A41C for ; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 17:33:08 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from matt@atopia.net) Received: from neptune.atopia.net (neptune.atopia.net [209.128.231.90]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6B24043D48 for ; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 17:33:08 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from matt@atopia.net) Received: by neptune.atopia.net (Postfix, from userid 1001) id C7E576398; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 13:33:07 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by neptune.atopia.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C60666383; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 13:33:07 -0400 (EDT) Date: Thu, 7 Jul 2005 13:33:07 -0400 (EDT) From: Matt Juszczak To: Giorgos Keramidas In-Reply-To: <20050707172445.GA2797@beatrix.daedalusnetworks.priv> Message-ID: <20050707133246.C5841@neptune.atopia.net> References: <20050707114448.O3620@neptune.atopia.net> <20050707164142.GA1503@beatrix.daedalusnetworks.priv> <20050707131739.M5573@neptune.atopia.net> <20050707172445.GA2797@beatrix.daedalusnetworks.priv> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: procmail kill problems in dmesg? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 07 Jul 2005 17:33:08 -0000 > Do the segfaults only happen when you run procmail? If other programs > fail randomly with segfaults, then it's more likely to be a general > memory-hardware problem. If it's only procmail that fails it could be > just a procmail bug. Procmail is the only one segfaulting with signal 11. POP3 has exiting with signal 6 a few times, but only a few, and its been sporadic. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jul 7 17:37:50 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A0F1F16A41C for ; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 17:37:50 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from alejandro@varnet.biz) Received: from relay.pair.com (relay00.pair.com [209.68.1.20]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 38BC843D46 for ; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 17:37:49 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from alejandro@varnet.biz) Received: (qmail 71736 invoked from network); 7 Jul 2005 17:37:49 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO phobos.mars.bsd) (unknown) by unknown with SMTP; 7 Jul 2005 17:37:49 -0000 X-pair-Authenticated: 200.115.214.28 Date: Thu, 7 Jul 2005 14:39:44 -0300 From: Alejandro Pulver To: fbsd_user@a1poweruser.com Message-ID: <20050707143944.4b552b2b@phobos.mars.bsd> In-Reply-To: References: <20050703181722.6d20fe89@phobos.mars.bsd> X-Mailer: Sylpheed-Claws 1.0.4 (GTK+ 1.2.10; i386-portbld-freebsd5.4) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: "freebsd-questions@FreeBSD. ORG" Subject: Re: help with she script X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 07 Jul 2005 17:37:50 -0000 On Wed, 6 Jul 2005 23:29:17 -0400 "fbsd_user" wrote: > On Sun, 3 Jul 2005 16:47:24 -0400 > "fbsd_user" wrote: > > > This is my last coding problem. > > > > > > target="check-state" > > > > # Find the rule number of the target rule where you want the > doorman > > # pass rules inserted before. > > > > ruleno=`ipfw list | sed -n -e "s/00\([0-9]*\) $target/\1/p"` > > > > The output of 'ipfw list' looks like this > > > > nnnnn a 5 position sequence rule number > > blank followed by a empty single position > > x-x a 10 to 80 position rule text > > > 00010 allow ip from any to any via lo0 > 00015 check-state > 00110 allow tcp from any to 68.168.240.26 dst-port 53 out via dc0 > setup keep-state > 00111 allow udp from any to 68.168.240.26 dst-port 53 out via dc0 > keep-state > 00120 allow udp from any to any dst-port 67 out via dc0 keep-state > 00200 allow tcp from any to any dst-port 80 out via dc0 setup > keep-state > > > > > > When the rule text matches the target text I want the > > first 5 position rule number to go into ruleno. > > > > Large rules files may use all 5 positions and then > > the above code will fail to get the rule number. > > Tried to remove the s/00\ but had syntax problems. > > Hello, If you want to include the first two digits you have to remove the two zeros from the pattern. ruleno=`ipfw list | sed -n -e "s/\([0-9]*\) $target/\1/p"` ^^ This is because in the other pattern when the rule number does not start with "00" then it will not be matched and nothing will be returned. Explanation: The 's' is the substitute command, '/' is the operand separator, the '\(' and '\)' construct saves the text it matches in the register '\1', '[0-9]*' matches any number of digits (even 0 of them), $target is replaced with the contents of the shell variable. All of that is replaced by just the text matched between '\(' and '\)'. The 'p' flag causes the line (after substitution, that is, the text between '\(' and '\)') to be printed (and assigned to ruleno). Hope that helps. Best Regards, Ale From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jul 7 18:04:08 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4772316A41C for ; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 18:04:08 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jnatola@familycareintl.org) Received: from mail.familycareintl.org (mail.familycareintl.org [68.167.21.154]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BCB4543D45 for ; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 18:04:07 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jnatola@familycareintl.org) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5.7226.0 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Date: Thu, 7 Jul 2005 14:04:01 -0400 Message-ID: <3A85D7EF44E1C744BF6434691F5659E948F533@fci-ex.FCI> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: SA rules_dujour Thread-Index: AcWDHkENIvQt0VsgTkuZqmAuKIXt5g== From: "Jean-Paul Natola" To: Subject: SA rules_dujour X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 07 Jul 2005 18:04:08 -0000 Hi everyone,=20 I have installed Spamassassin and rules_dujour I have NOT changed any settings , it is a vanilla install no config = files or anything has been modified, yet spam is coming right through Here's the header of one; I feel I'm missing something , I mean just by = the subject I would think it would detect it-- X-Spam-Score: 0.2 (/) X-Spam-Report: Spam detection software, running on the system "mfilter", = has identified this incoming email as possible spam. 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[...]=20 Content analysis details: (0.2 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 Jean-Paul Natola Network Administrator Information Technology Family Care International 588 Broadway Suite 503 New York, NY 10012 Phone:212-941-5300 xt 36 Fax: 212-941-5563 Mailto: Jnatola@Familycareintl.org=20 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jul 7 18:25:13 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 49B6216A41F for ; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 18:25:13 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from dmitry.mityugov@gmail.com) Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.194]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D57D343D48 for ; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 18:25:12 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from dmitry.mityugov@gmail.com) Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 68so278263wra for ; Thu, 07 Jul 2005 11:25:12 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=T+tAwA8ou7mby6+d0aks7OaLmEBwjDaI0imh8P66diTFn+XgtAyQQFjry15u6PSGOaTtlK4zPl4MaEKcEA/GtS7VYmiVz5WOh3UEagioHzcDpgjrxl43t5HFrWDK9StAC+bHbpIxIkIXJLA4LoL5fa/79Zl/1/kv0cKcOKbawLg= Received: by 10.54.8.9 with SMTP id 9mr909193wrh; Thu, 07 Jul 2005 11:25:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.56.33 with HTTP; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 11:25:11 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Thu, 7 Jul 2005 22:25:11 +0400 From: Dmitry Mityugov To: Piotr Baranowski In-Reply-To: <40871880.20050707184854@o2.pl> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline References: <40871880.20050707184854@o2.pl> Cc: FreeBSD-question Subject: Re: hang-up's on clean FreeBSD 5.4 on compilation X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Dmitry Mityugov List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 07 Jul 2005 18:25:13 -0000 On 7/7/05, Piotr Baranowski wrote: > Hello >=20 > I have posted before, about my problems with Kernel compilation. > Now it's bigger problem ;-) >=20 > I still can't compile the kernel. >=20 > Now i reinstalled FreeBSD 5.4, totally clean download. > It's just for education/fun, so i can do that.. for now. >=20 > I choosed Standard install, Devel distribution, and installed linux > base. > One additional package: CVSup. > Nothing more, nothing less. >=20 > After installation, i used CVSup to get newest source [ src-all ]. > Then i ran: > 1) cd /usr/src > 2) make buildworld >=20 > it hanged up my PC.. > i tried this several times, and it hangs up in different places, > always on 'cc' command. >=20 > Maybe it's something with my memory? ... Looks like that. There is a couple of memory test programs, I like these: http://www.memtest86.com/ http://www.ocztechnology.com/aboutocz/press/2004/114 --=20 Dmitry "We live less by imagination than despite it" - Rockwell Kent, "N by E" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jul 7 18:38:29 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B114016A41C for ; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 18:38:29 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from mkb@mkbuelow.net) Received: from luzifer.incubus.de (incubus.de [80.237.207.83]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C1DEA43D53 for ; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 18:38:28 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from mkb@mkbuelow.net) Received: from drjekyll.mkbuelow.net (p54AAA533.dip0.t-ipconnect.de [84.170.165.51]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by luzifer.incubus.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id ECA1E322C0; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 20:41:19 +0200 (CEST) Received: from drjekyll.mkbuelow.net (mkb@localhost.mkbuelow.net [127.0.0.1]) by drjekyll.mkbuelow.net (8.13.3/8.13.3) with ESMTP id j67Icudi014346; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 20:38:57 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from mkb@drjekyll.mkbuelow.net) Message-Id: <200507071838.j67Icudi014346@drjekyll.mkbuelow.net> From: Matthias Buelow To: Matt Juszczak In-Reply-To: Message from Matt Juszczak of "Thu, 07 Jul 2005 13:33:07 EDT." <20050707133246.C5841@neptune.atopia.net> X-Mailer: MH-E 7.84; nmh 1.0.4; XEmacs 21.4 (patch 17) Date: Thu, 07 Jul 2005 20:38:56 +0200 Sender: mkb@mkbuelow.net Cc: Giorgos Keramidas , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: procmail kill problems in dmesg? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 07 Jul 2005 18:38:29 -0000 Matt Juszczak writes: >Procmail is the only one segfaulting with signal 11. POP3 has exiting >with signal 6 a few times, but only a few, and its been sporadic. I assume that you've checked that you're running the latest version (or ports version) of procmail? mkb. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jul 7 18:39:47 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 05BB716A41C for ; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 18:39:47 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from rjhjr@cox.net) Received: from lakermmtao08.cox.net (lakermmtao08.cox.net [68.230.240.31]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6FE8D43D48 for ; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 18:39:46 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from rjhjr@cox.net) Received: from localhost ([68.230.186.138]) by lakermmtao08.cox.net (InterMail vM.6.01.04.00 201-2131-118-20041027) with ESMTP id <20050707183945.YBFV18139.lakermmtao08.cox.net@localhost> for ; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 14:39:45 -0400 Date: Thu, 7 Jul 2005 14:39:44 -0400 From: Bob Hall To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20050707183944.GA85644@kongemord.krig.net> Mail-Followup-To: Bob Hall , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <20050706191003.GA79388@kongemord.krig.net> <42CD5E9E.7040904@acm.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <42CD5E9E.7040904@acm.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Subject: Re: perl-after-upgrade X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 07 Jul 2005 18:39:47 -0000 On Thu, Jul 07, 2005 at 06:55:58PM +0200, legalois wrote: > Bob Hall wrote: > >I don't know squat about perl. I recently ran portupgrade, which > >upgraded perl. Goose stopped working, because the location for Curses.pm > >was no longer in @INC. I tried to run perl-after-upgrade, but I couldn't > >get it to run. I've got a book that said to use > > # perl perl-after-upgrade > >or > > # ./perl-after-upgrade > >I also tried just > > # perl-after-upgrade > >No joy. Just for the heck of it, I tried > > * sh perl-after-upgrade > >and dang if it didn't run. It didn't look to me like an sh script, but > >what do I know? It wasn't supposed to change anything without the -f > >option, but goose ran afterward, so it obviously changed things. I > >looked for Curses.pm, and it moved to a directory listed in @INC. > > > >Anybody have any advice? Comments? How was I supposed to get > >perl-after-upgrade to run? > >_______________________________________________ > >freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > >http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > >To unsubscribe, send any mail to > >"freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > > > > > A longish message appears at the end of the perl upgrade build, that > explains how to run perl-after-upgrade. As I stated above, I used portupgrade. That means that any messages at the end of the perl upgrade scrolled off the screen and out of the screen buffer when portupgrade carried out the next install. One of the problems with portupgrade is that you rarely see the post-upgrade messages when you do batch upgrades. > If you overlooked that, the same > instructions are at > #perldoc perl-after-upgrade That's identical to the man page, which didn't supply any information that helped. So if the man page, perldoc page, and post-install message were the same, none of them contained the information I needed. > If the script is in a directory not in your root's path, find the full > path to the script with > #locate perl-after-upgrade > (but make sure your locate db is up-to-date, first). As I stated above, I tried "./perl-after-upgrade" and I looked at the script, neither of which would have been possible if I didn't know where the script was. As I mentioned in my followup post, I solved the problem with "rehash". A mention of this in /usr/ports/UPDATING would help those of use who rarely use tcsh unless we need to run something as root. Also in the man page. Any situation that requires perl-after-upgrade probably also requires rehash. I found the solution at http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=freebsd-ports&m=111980508717308&w=2 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jul 7 18:40:22 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BBA4D16A428 for ; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 18:40:22 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from hzs202@gmail.com) Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.205]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A476C43D69 for ; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 18:40:10 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from hzs202@gmail.com) Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id i6so280437wra for ; Thu, 07 Jul 2005 11:40:09 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; b=G7u77eDaOnqWnnpEW0TUENko1BoGeruq7jDj2uFTpW2fzLedzXf/izemEL71xp5RtieP+sYByOgQfuzy22oZdziXrD7LFp64pwwZFGXxpmAooJVzvXjcDouhcTvqXh+D6XiOnkWbldCBCm60yAokjRJi27MO8Mwc56n/7/C3DUg= Received: by 10.54.29.10 with SMTP id c10mr920102wrc; Thu, 07 Jul 2005 11:40:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.124.5 with HTTP; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 11:40:09 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Thu, 7 Jul 2005 14:40:09 -0400 From: Hakim Singhji To: talk@lists.nycbug.org, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline Cc: Subject: Minimum Install w/ X11 on Virtual PC X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: hzs202@nyu.edu List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 07 Jul 2005 18:40:23 -0000 Hi All, I am going to install FreeBSD 5.4 on MS Virtual PC. My PC (IBM Thinkpad R51) only has 256MB of RAM available. I do not want to install Gnome or KDE however I would like the benefits of colors in text editors, backgrounds, etc. as this is going to be a testing environment for application development. What is the best way to go about doing this? In VPC I allot approximately 96MB of RAM for the Virtual Machine and I was thinking 256MB for virtual SWAP (would that even help... the default is like 166MB for 96MB of RAM... or something like that. Again... how can I get the most out of x11/xorg with out using a great deal of resources? Best, --=20 Hakim Singhji hzs202@nyu.edu "Where danger is, grows the saving power also" (qtd. in Heidegger 28). From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jul 7 18:53:49 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 46F5D16A41C for ; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 18:53:49 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from pauls@utdallas.edu) Received: from smtp1.utdallas.edu (smtp1.utdallas.edu [129.110.10.12]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1544F43D45 for ; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 18:53:49 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from pauls@utdallas.edu) Received: from utd59514.utdallas.edu (utd59514.utdallas.edu [129.110.3.28]) by smtp1.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id AF25B388EA9 for ; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 13:53:48 -0500 (CDT) Date: Thu, 07 Jul 2005 13:53:48 -0500 From: Paul Schmehl To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <20050707183944.GA85644@kongemord.krig.net> References: <20050706191003.GA79388@kongemord.krig.net> <42CD5E9E.7040904@acm.org> <20050707183944.GA85644@kongemord.krig.net> X-Mailer: Mulberry/3.1.6 (Linux/x86) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Subject: Re: perl-after-upgrade X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 07 Jul 2005 18:53:49 -0000 --On Thursday, July 07, 2005 14:39:44 -0400 Bob Hall wrote: > > As I stated above, I used portupgrade. That means that any messages at > the end of the perl upgrade scrolled off the screen and out of the > screen buffer when portupgrade carried out the next install. One of the > problems with portupgrade is that you rarely see the post-upgrade > messages when you do batch upgrades. > That's an easily solved problem. After you finish portupgrade, view the pkg-message file in any port you have a question about. E.g. % view /usr/ports/lang/perl5.8/pkg-message Paul Schmehl (pauls@utdallas.edu) Adjunct Information Security Officer University of Texas at Dallas AVIEN Founding Member http://www.utdallas.edu/ir/security/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jul 7 18:58:05 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BFF5A16A41C for ; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 18:58:05 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from FreeBSD@keyslapper.net) Received: from mail-relay4.mirrorimage.net (mail-relay4.mirrorimage.net [65.219.237.195]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6EB1D43D46 for ; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 18:58:05 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from FreeBSD@keyslapper.net) Received: from localhost (leblanc.eng.mirrorimage.net [65.219.237.158]) by mail-relay4.mirrorimage.net (Postfix) with SMTP id 7CAD469273 for ; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 14:58:04 -0400 (EDT) Received: by localhost (sSMTP sendmail emulation); Thu, 7 Jul 2005 14:59:09 -0400 Date: Thu, 7 Jul 2005 14:59:09 -0400 From: Louis LeBlanc To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20050707185908.GE2096@keyslapper.net> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <3A85D7EF44E1C744BF6434691F5659E948F533@fci-ex.FCI> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="gatW/ieO32f1wygP" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <3A85D7EF44E1C744BF6434691F5659E948F533@fci-ex.FCI> X-PGP-Key: http://www.keyslapper.net/~leblanc/leblanc-at-keyslapper-net.asc User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.9i Subject: Re: SA rules_dujour X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 07 Jul 2005 18:58:06 -0000 --gatW/ieO32f1wygP Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 07/07/05 02:04 PM, Jean-Paul Natola sat at the `puter and typed: > Hi everyone,=20 >=20 > I have installed Spamassassin and rules_dujour >=20 > I have NOT changed any settings , it is a vanilla install no config files= or > anything has been modified, yet spam is coming right through >=20 > Here's the header of one; I feel I'm missing something , I mean just by t= he > subject I would think it would detect it-- >=20 >=20 > X-Spam-Score: 0.2 (/) > X-Spam-Report: Spam detection software, running on the system "mfilter", = has > identified this incoming email as possible spam. The original message > has been attached to this so you can view it (if it isn't spam) or label > similar future email. If you have any questions, see > the administrator of that system for details. > Content preview: Tuesday/Wednesday Sale! Fares from $49*. Tuesdays and > Wednesdays just became your favorite days of the week! Take advantage > of these great low fares and book your vacation today! Book on > spiritair.com by 11:59PM EST on 7/6/05 for travel on Tuesdays and > Wednesdays only from 7/12/05-9/28/05 unless otherwise noted. [...]=20 > Content analysis details: (0.2 points, 5.0 required) > pts rule name description >=20 Note the score and the required score. 0.2 is a good long way from 5.0. You may wish to take any saved spam and use it to teach SA what spam is, because the Bayes learner is actually quite good at swaying this the right way. Also, if you're like me, you'll want to bump the required score down. When I was getting 200+ spams a day (some days over 300), SA was letting through 2 or 3 a week. Now I get 3 or 4 a week (I shut off the problem domain for 6 months) and SA lets 1 or 2 a week. It's a numbers game. The more educated Bayes is, the smaller the percentage of FNs are. The problem is that Bayes won't kick in until you teach it with enough spam - I don't remember the kick-in point offhand. I've seen a message get pushed through several different installations of SA (all the same version and config) and come out with drastically different scores, all because of Bayes. The better systems are ALWAYS educated on a regular basis. Also, since you're starting off, you'll get a lot of mileage out of the SA list. I use Maildir mailboxes on my system and when I learned how important teaching Bayes is, I actually wrote a little perl script to check for spam messages marked as read (Maildir/.spam/cur/*) and pipe them automagically through the Bayes learner before moving them off to the spam backup directory. I also separate out the autolearned spam and just push that off to the backup regardless of the read/unread status. I think I've gotten about 2 FPs in 3 years of using SA. Those FPs really weren't spam, but they were all messages I didn't want to get anyway, like chain letters or some other rubbish. :) HTH Lou --=20 Louis LeBlanc FreeBSD-at-keyslapper-DOT-net Fully Funded Hobbyist, KeySlapper Extrordinaire :) Please send off-list email to: leblanc at keyslapper d.t net Key fingerprint =3D C5E7 4762 F071 CE3B ED51 4FB8 AF85 A2FE 80C8 D9A2 Linus' Law: There is no heavier burden than a great potential. --gatW/ieO32f1wygP Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.1 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFCzXt8r4Wi/oDI2aIRAp+1AJ4i59oEwn4KGYtb97OjcnqdhnLAswCeIt6V i9XjsJC/8NUCVMU8RBghFC8= =LsPj -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --gatW/ieO32f1wygP-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jul 7 19:23:32 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A640016A41C for ; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 19:23:32 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from youshi10@u.washington.edu) Received: from mxout4.cac.washington.edu (mxout4.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.19]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6ACF343D48 for ; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 19:23:32 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from youshi10@u.washington.edu) Received: from dante68.u.washington.edu (dante68.u.washington.edu [140.142.15.49]) by mxout4.cac.washington.edu (8.13.4+UW05.04/8.13.4+UW05.05) with ESMTP id j67JNRXP026553 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Thu, 7 Jul 2005 12:23:27 -0700 Received: from localhost (youshi10@localhost) by dante68.u.washington.edu (8.13.4+UW05.03/8.13.4+UW05.05) with ESMTP id j67JNRB8086446; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 12:23:27 -0700 Date: Thu, 7 Jul 2005 12:23:27 -0700 (PDT) From: Garrett Cooper To: hzs202@nyu.edu In-Reply-To: Message-ID: References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: talk@lists.nycbug.org, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Minimum Install w/ X11 on Virtual PC X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 07 Jul 2005 19:23:32 -0000 Hakim, You're pressing it a bit considering that X does use up a bit of resources, and considering that you have an additional system overlayed on top of Windows (I assume you are using XP), you will want to actually go out and get more RAM. You are unfortunately working with conditions which may become extremely laggy for you and will ultimately lead to less than desired performance. I know because I ran Windows XP on vmware, and having another Virtual machine running on your computer eats up a lot of resources, and hence decreases the peak usable performance of the system greatly. Either get at least 512 Mb Ram, or consider switching from Gnome/KDE to something doable like Fluxbox, FWM2, or XFCE since they don't use nearly as much memory as Gnome/KDE. -Garrett On Thu, 7 Jul 2005, Hakim Singhji wrote: > Hi All, > > I am going to install FreeBSD 5.4 on MS Virtual PC. My PC (IBM > Thinkpad R51) only has 256MB of RAM available. I do not want to > install Gnome or KDE however I would like the benefits of colors in > text editors, backgrounds, etc. as this is going to be a testing > environment for application development. > > What is the best way to go about doing this? In VPC I allot > approximately 96MB of RAM for the Virtual Machine and I was thinking > 256MB for virtual SWAP (would that even help... the default is like > 166MB for 96MB of RAM... or something like that. > > Again... how can I get the most out of x11/xorg with out using a great > deal of resources? > > Best, > -- > Hakim Singhji > hzs202@nyu.edu > "Where danger is, grows the saving power also" (qtd. in Heidegger 28). > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jul 7 19:38:17 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 03FD516A41C for ; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 19:38:17 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from maxsec@gmail.com) Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.194]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E870743D6B for ; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 19:38:14 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from maxsec@gmail.com) Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id i16so291446wra for ; Thu, 07 Jul 2005 12:38:14 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=cOMP9Wby6Mi33VVirgKF8NtExUxflj8hPmPRiN5C48FbIKxdwRnI0aDN1RlazW/jliruBHY09xPhpf2th/VYbocvtorugYG+CUHdsqlcwwbQH9G7rVQvRaKRfXQqObXarqNj/pqBH0P0Ugd1Ak6RxnJfV+QWY0S+6SXKRxAKUuw= Received: by 10.54.27.57 with SMTP id a57mr950275wra; Thu, 07 Jul 2005 12:38:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.4.22 with HTTP; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 12:38:14 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <72cf361e05070712382851e6df@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 7 Jul 2005 20:38:14 +0100 From: Martin Hepworth To: Jean-Paul Natola In-Reply-To: <3A85D7EF44E1C744BF6434691F5659E948F533@fci-ex.FCI> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline References: <3A85D7EF44E1C744BF6434691F5659E948F533@fci-ex.FCI> Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: SA rules_dujour X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Martin Hepworth List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 07 Jul 2005 19:38:17 -0000 Hi May I suggest you as this on the sa-users list. You'll get specific help for you config -- Martin On 7/7/05, Jean-Paul Natola wrote: > Hi everyone, >=20 > I have installed Spamassassin and rules_dujour >=20 > I have NOT changed any settings , it is a vanilla install no config files= or > anything has been modified, yet spam is coming right through >=20 > Here's the header of one; I feel I'm missing something , I mean just by t= he > subject I would think it would detect it-- >=20 >=20 > X-Spam-Score: 0.2 (/) > X-Spam-Report: Spam detection software, running on the system "mfilter", = has > identified this incoming email as possible spam. The original > message > has been attached to this so you can view it (if it isn't spam) o= r > label > similar future email. If you have any questions, see > the administrator of that system for details. > Content preview: Tuesday/Wednesday Sale! Fares from $49*. Tuesda= ys > and > Wednesdays just became your favorite days of the week! Take advan= tage > of these great low fares and book your vacation today! Book on > spiritair.com by 11:59PM EST on 7/6/05 for travel on Tuesdays and > Wednesdays only from 7/12/05-9/28/05 unless otherwise noted. [...= ] > Content analysis details: (0.2 points, 5.0 required) > pts rule name description >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 > Jean-Paul Natola > Network Administrator > Information Technology > Family Care International > 588 Broadway Suite 503 > New York, NY 10012 > Phone:212-941-5300 xt 36 > Fax: 212-941-5563 > Mailto: Jnatola@Familycareintl.org >=20 > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.o= rg" > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jul 7 19:48:52 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8834A16A41C for ; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 19:48:52 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from evan.jones@tilcon.com) Received: from mx2.magma.ca (mx2.magma.ca [206.191.0.250]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9B56C43D49 for ; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 19:48:49 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from evan.jones@tilcon.com) Received: from mail1.magma.ca (mail1.magma.ca [206.191.0.252]) by mx2.magma.ca (8.13.0/8.13.0) with ESMTP id j67JmlxS026658 for ; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 15:48:48 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (ottawa-hs-64-26-156-146.s-ip.magma.ca [64.26.156.146]) (authenticated bits=0) by mail1.magma.ca (8.13.0/8.13.0) with ESMTP id j67Jmk1n028553 for ; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 15:48:47 -0400 Message-ID: <42CD8716.8050204@tilcon.com> Date: Thu, 07 Jul 2005 15:48:38 -0400 From: Evan Jones User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (Windows/20041206) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: FreeBSD 5.4 and Sli 3114 sata controller broken? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 07 Jul 2005 19:48:52 -0000 hey, I have a Tyan s2882 mainboard with an integrated SLI 3114 SATA RAID controler on board. I have four 120gig sata drives attached to it. I can succefully build a RAID 0, 1 or 10 in the BIOS, but the created RAID dosent seem to show up in Freebsd. The drives get detected but I can only seem to use them as individual drives and not a raid array. I can successfully create a raid using ATA control but from what I understand that is a software RAID only. Anyone know what is going on? I cant seem to find any info on Sli 3114 support in freebsd. Jul 7 14:06:56 greysrv syslogd: kernel boot file is /boot/kernel/kernel Jul 7 14:06:56 greysrv kernel: Copyright (c) 1992-2005 The FreeBSD Project. Jul 7 14:06:56 greysrv kernel: Copyright (c) 1979, 1980, 1983, 1986, 1988, 1989, 1991, 1992, 1993, 1994 Jul 7 14:06:56 greysrv kernel: The Regents of the University of California. All rights reserved. Jul 7 14:06:56 greysrv kernel: FreeBSD 5.4-RELEASE #1: Wed Jun 15 23:13:01 EDT 2005 Jul 7 14:06:56 greysrv kernel: root@greysrv:/usr/src/sys/amd64/compile/GREYSRV Jul 7 14:06:56 greysrv kernel: Timecounter "i8254" frequency 1193182 Hz quality 0 Jul 7 14:06:56 greysrv kernel: CPU: AMD Opteron(tm) Processor 242 (1593.20-MHz K8-class CPU) Jul 7 14:06:56 greysrv kernel: Origin = "AuthenticAMD" Id = 0xf5a Stepping = 10 Jul 7 14:06:56 greysrv kernel: Features=0x78bfbff Jul 7 14:06:56 greysrv kernel: AMD Features=0xe0500800 Jul 7 14:06:56 greysrv kernel: real memory = 1073676288 (1023 MB) Jul 7 14:06:56 greysrv kernel: avail memory = 1027469312 (979 MB) Jul 7 14:06:56 greysrv kernel: ACPI APIC Table: Jul 7 14:06:56 greysrv kernel: FreeBSD/SMP: Multiprocessor System Detected: 2 CPUs Jul 7 14:06:56 greysrv kernel: cpu0 (BSP): APIC ID: 0 Jul 7 14:06:56 greysrv kernel: cpu1 (AP): APIC ID: 1 Jul 7 14:06:56 greysrv kernel: MADT: Forcing active-low polarity and level trigger for SCI Jul 7 14:06:56 greysrv kernel: ioapic0 irqs 0-23 on motherboard Jul 7 14:06:56 greysrv kernel: ioapic1 irqs 24-27 on motherboard Jul 7 14:06:56 greysrv kernel: ioapic2 irqs 28-31 on motherboard Jul 7 14:06:56 greysrv kernel: acpi0: on motherboard Jul 7 14:06:56 greysrv kernel: acpi0: Power Button (fixed) Jul 7 14:06:56 greysrv kernel: Timecounter "ACPI-fast" frequency 3579545 Hz quality 1000 Jul 7 14:06:56 greysrv kernel: acpi_timer0: <24-bit timer at 3.579545MHz> port 0x5008-0x500b on acpi0 Jul 7 14:06:56 greysrv kernel: cpu0: on acpi0 Jul 7 14:06:56 greysrv kernel: acpi_throttle0: on cpu0 Jul 7 14:06:56 greysrv kernel: cpu1: on acpi0 Jul 7 14:06:56 greysrv kernel: pcib0: port 0xcf8-0xcff on acpi0 Jul 7 14:06:56 greysrv kernel: pci0: on pcib0 Jul 7 14:06:56 greysrv kernel: pcib1: at device 6.0 on pci0 Jul 7 14:06:56 greysrv kernel: pci3: on pcib1 Jul 7 14:06:56 greysrv kernel: ohci0: mem 0xfeafc000-0xfeafcfff irq 19 at device 0.0 on pci3 Jul 7 14:06:56 greysrv kernel: usb0: OHCI version 1.0, legacy support Jul 7 14:06:56 greysrv kernel: usb0: on ohci0 Jul 7 14:06:56 greysrv kernel: usb0: USB revision 1.0 Jul 7 14:06:56 greysrv kernel: uhub0: AMD OHCI root hub, class 9/0, rev 1.00/1.00, addr 1 Jul 7 14:06:56 greysrv kernel: uhub0: 3 ports with 3 removable, self powered Jul 7 14:06:56 greysrv kernel: ohci1: mem 0xfeafd000-0xfeafdfff irq 19 at device 0.1 on pci3 Jul 7 14:06:56 greysrv kernel: usb1: OHCI version 1.0, legacy support Jul 7 14:06:56 greysrv kernel: usb1: on ohci1 Jul 7 14:06:56 greysrv kernel: usb1: USB revision 1.0 Jul 7 14:06:56 greysrv kernel: uhub1: AMD OHCI root hub, class 9/0, rev 1.00/1.00, addr 1 Jul 7 14:06:56 greysrv kernel: uhub1: 3 ports with 3 removable, self powered Jul 7 14:06:56 greysrv kernel: atapci0: port 0xa800-0xa80f,0xac00-0xac03,0xb000-0xb007,0xb400-0xb403,0xbc00-0xbc07 mem 0xfeafec00-0xfeafefff irq 19 at device 5.0 on pci3 Jul 7 14:06:56 greysrv kernel: ata2: channel #0 on atapci0 Jul 7 14:06:56 greysrv kernel: ata3: channel #1 on atapci0 Jul 7 14:06:56 greysrv kernel: ata4: channel #2 on atapci0 Jul 7 14:06:56 greysrv kernel: ata5: channel #3 on atapci0 Jul 7 14:06:56 greysrv kernel: pci3: at device 6.0 (no driver attached) Jul 7 14:06:56 greysrv kernel: fxp0: port 0xa400-0xa43f mem 0xfeaa0000-0xfeabffff,0xfeafb000-0xfeafbfff irq 18 at device 8.0 on pci3 Jul 7 14:06:56 greysrv kernel: miibus0: on fxp0 Jul 7 14:06:56 greysrv kernel: inphy0: on miibus0 Jul 7 14:06:56 greysrv kernel: inphy0: 10baseT, 10baseT-FDX, 100baseTX, 100baseTX-FDX, auto Jul 7 14:06:56 greysrv kernel: fxp0: Ethernet address: 00:e0:81:2d:ec:b5 Jul 7 14:06:56 greysrv kernel: isab0: at device 7.0 on pci0 Jul 7 14:06:56 greysrv kernel: isa0: on isab0 Jul 7 14:06:56 greysrv kernel: atapci1: port 0xffa0-0xffaf,0x376,0x170-0x177,0x3f6,0x1f0-0x1f7 at device 7.1 on pci0 Jul 7 14:06:56 greysrv kernel: ata0: channel #0 on atapci1 Jul 7 14:06:56 greysrv kernel: ata1: channel #1 on atapci1 Jul 7 14:06:56 greysrv kernel: pci0: at device 7.2 (no driver attached) Jul 7 14:06:56 greysrv kernel: pci0: at device 7.3 (no driver attached) Jul 7 14:06:56 greysrv kernel: pcib2: at device 10.0 on pci0 Jul 7 14:06:56 greysrv kernel: pci2: on pcib2 Jul 7 14:06:56 greysrv kernel: bge0: mem 0xfc8b0000-0xfc8bffff,0xfc8c0000-0xfc8cffff irq 24 at device 9.0 on pci2 Jul 7 14:06:56 greysrv kernel: miibus1: on bge0 Jul 7 14:06:56 greysrv kernel: brgphy0: on miibus1 Jul 7 14:06:56 greysrv kernel: brgphy0: 10baseT, 10baseT-FDX, 100baseTX, 100baseTX-FDX, 1000baseTX, 1000baseTX-FDX, auto Jul 7 14:06:56 greysrv kernel: bge0: Ethernet address: 00:e0:81:2d:ec:e2 Jul 7 14:06:56 greysrv kernel: bge1: mem 0xfc8e0000-0xfc8effff,0xfc8f0000-0xfc8fffff irq 25 at device 9.1 on pci2 Jul 7 14:06:56 greysrv kernel: miibus2: on bge1 Jul 7 14:06:56 greysrv kernel: brgphy1: on miibus2 Jul 7 14:06:56 greysrv kernel: brgphy1: 10baseT, 10baseT-FDX, 100baseTX, 100baseTX-FDX, 1000baseTX, 1000baseTX-FDX, auto Jul 7 14:06:56 greysrv kernel: bge1: Ethernet address: 00:e0:81:2d:ec:e3 Jul 7 14:06:56 greysrv kernel: pci0: at device 10.1 (no driver attached) Jul 7 14:06:56 greysrv kernel: pcib3: at device 11.0 on pci0 Jul 7 14:06:56 greysrv kernel: pci1: on pcib3 Jul 7 14:06:56 greysrv kernel: pci0: at device 11.1 (no driver attached) Jul 7 14:06:56 greysrv kernel: acpi_button0: on acpi0 Jul 7 14:06:56 greysrv kernel: atkbdc0: port 0x64,0x60 irq 1 on acpi0 Jul 7 14:06:56 greysrv kernel: atkbd0: flags 0x1 irq 1 on atkbdc0 Jul 7 14:06:56 greysrv kernel: kbd0 at atkbd0 Jul 7 14:06:56 greysrv kernel: psm0: irq 12 on atkbdc0 Jul 7 14:06:56 greysrv kernel: psm0: model IntelliMouse Explorer, device ID 4 Jul 7 14:06:56 greysrv kernel: sio0: configured irq 4 not in bitmap of probed irqs 0 Jul 7 14:06:56 greysrv kernel: sio0: port may not be enabled Jul 7 14:06:56 greysrv kernel: sio0: <16550A-compatible COM port> port 0x3f8-0x3ff irq 4 flags 0x10 on acpi0 Jul 7 14:06:56 greysrv kernel: sio0: type 16550A Jul 7 14:06:56 greysrv kernel: sio1: configured irq 3 not in bitmap of probed irqs 0 Jul 7 14:06:56 greysrv kernel: sio1: port may not be enabled Jul 7 14:06:56 greysrv kernel: sio1: <16550A-compatible COM port> port 0x2f8-0x2ff irq 3 on acpi0 Jul 7 14:06:56 greysrv kernel: sio1: type 16550A Jul 7 14:06:56 greysrv kernel: fdc0: port 0x3f7,0x3f0-0x3f5 irq 6 drq 2 on acpi0 Jul 7 14:06:56 greysrv kernel: ppc0: port 0x378-0x37f irq 7 on acpi0 Jul 7 14:06:56 greysrv kernel: ppc0: Generic chipset (NIBBLE-only) in COMPATIBLE mode Jul 7 14:06:56 greysrv kernel: ppbus0: on ppc0 Jul 7 14:06:56 greysrv kernel: plip0: on ppbus0 Jul 7 14:06:56 greysrv kernel: lpt0: on ppbus0 Jul 7 14:06:56 greysrv kernel: lpt0: Interrupt-driven port Jul 7 14:06:56 greysrv kernel: ppi0: on ppbus0 Jul 7 14:06:56 greysrv kernel: orm0: at iomem 0xc8000-0xcc7ff,0xc0000-0xc7fff on isa0 Jul 7 14:06:56 greysrv kernel: sc0: at flags 0x100 on isa0 Jul 7 14:06:56 greysrv kernel: sc0: VGA <16 virtual consoles, flags=0x300> Jul 7 14:06:56 greysrv kernel: vga0: at port 0x3c0-0x3df iomem 0xa0000-0xbffff on isa0 Jul 7 14:06:56 greysrv kernel: Timecounters tick every 1.000 msec Jul 7 14:06:56 greysrv kernel: ad0: 190782MB [387621/16/63] at ata0-master UDMA100 Jul 7 14:06:56 greysrv kernel: ad2: 190782MB [387621/16/63] at ata1-master UDMA100 Jul 7 14:06:56 greysrv kernel: acd0: CDROM at ata1-slave PIO4 Jul 7 14:06:56 greysrv kernel: ad4: 114473MB [232581/16/63] at ata2-master SATA150 Jul 7 14:06:56 greysrv kernel: ad6: 117246MB [238216/16/63] at ata3-master SATA150 Jul 7 14:06:56 greysrv kernel: ad8: 117246MB [238216/16/63] at ata4-master SATA150 Jul 7 14:06:56 greysrv kernel: ad10: 114473MB [232581/16/63] at ata5-master SATA150 Jul 7 14:06:56 greysrv kernel: SMP: AP CPU #1 Launched! Jul 7 14:06:56 greysrv kernel: Mounting root from ufs:/dev/ad0s1a Jul 7 14:06:56 greysrv rpcbind: cannot create socket for udp6 -- ---==================--- Evan Jones IT Administrator Email: evan.jones@tilcon.com Phone: (613) 226-3917 x231 ---================--- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jul 7 19:53:25 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AAFDC16A41F for ; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 19:53:25 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from chad@shire.net) Received: from hobbiton.shire.net (hobbiton.shire.net [166.70.252.250]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 343B643D46 for ; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 19:53:25 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from chad@shire.net) Received: from [67.161.222.227] (helo=[192.168.99.68]) by hobbiton.shire.net with esmtpa (Exim 4.51) id 1DqcR2-0005nZ-1e; Thu, 07 Jul 2005 13:53:24 -0600 In-Reply-To: <42CD8716.8050204@tilcon.com> References: <42CD8716.8050204@tilcon.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v730) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: "Chad Leigh -- Shire.Net LLC" Date: Thu, 7 Jul 2005 13:53:23 -0600 To: Evan Jones X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.730) X-SA-Exim-Connect-IP: 67.161.222.227 X-SA-Exim-Mail-From: chad@shire.net X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.0.3 (2005-04-27) on hobbiton.shire.net X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.2 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_50, GREYLIST_ISWHITE autolearn=disabled version=3.0.3 X-SA-Exim-Version: 4.2 (built Mon May 30 00:43:02 MDT 2005) X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes (on hobbiton.shire.net) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD 5.4 and Sli 3114 sata controller broken? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 07 Jul 2005 19:53:25 -0000 On Jul 7, 2005, at 1:48 PM, Evan Jones wrote: > hey, > > I have a Tyan s2882 mainboard with an integrated SLI 3114 SATA RAID > controler on board. I have four 120gig sata drives attached to it. > I can succefully build a RAID 0, 1 or 10 in the BIOS, but the > created RAID dosent seem to show up in Freebsd. The drives get > detected but I can only seem to use them as individual drives and > not a raid array. I can successfully create a raid using ATA > control but from what I understand that is a software RAID only. > > Anyone know what is going on? I cant seem to find any info on Sli > 3114 support in freebsd. That is actually a software raid as well with BIOS support for setup and configuration... But the driver does all the RAID work at runtime... I have the S2882 and could not get the Sil3114 working even with JBOS with 5.3 back when I was installing and going live and so I ended up with a RocketRAID 1820a from highpoint (and use it for JBOD only -- my RAID is SCSI and Adaptec 2200S) best Chad --- Chad Leigh -- Shire.Net LLC Your Web App and Email hosting provider chad@shire.net From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jul 7 19:56:02 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 504E116A41C for ; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 19:56:02 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from list-freebsd-2004@morbius.sent.com) Received: from out2.smtp.messagingengine.com (out2.smtp.messagingengine.com [66.111.4.26]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 094BA43D45 for ; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 19:56:01 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from list-freebsd-2004@morbius.sent.com) Received: from frontend3.messagingengine.com (frontend3.internal [10.202.2.152]) by frontend1.messagingengine.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B2D34CBA78D for ; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 15:56:00 -0400 (EDT) X-Sasl-enc: oZnn7er0ocMe1auT0hCrXctB3DpYTLHzxDahd1pFFGwQ 1120766160 Received: from gumby.localdomain (dsl-80-41-73-249.access.as9105.com [80.41.73.249]) by frontend3.messagingengine.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5A1231E9 for ; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 15:56:00 -0400 (EDT) From: RW To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Thu, 7 Jul 2005 20:55:58 +0100 User-Agent: KMail/1.8.1 References: <20050707111924.950B043D58@mx1.FreeBSD.org> <1e22f35905070707427dbd31f7@mail.gmail.com> <42CD660E.8090408@dial.pipex.com> In-Reply-To: <42CD660E.8090408@dial.pipex.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200507072055.59414.list-freebsd-2004@morbius.sent.com> Subject: Re: Did we must put the mounted partition '/' and '/boot' in the same slice ? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 07 Jul 2005 19:56:02 -0000 On Thursday 07 July 2005 18:27, Alex Zbyslaw wrote: > 1Gb just because it's peanuts to a 200Gb disk, and I don't bother with > /tmp separately. I use one because, by default, / is mounted without soft-updates. It is possible to turn it on, but for the sake of a few hundred MB it seems sensible to go with the default of a separate partition. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jul 7 20:03:51 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1A5C816A41C for ; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 20:03:51 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from scottro@nyc.rr.com) Received: from mail.starlofashions.com (mail.starlofashions.com [12.44.50.125]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9348843D48 for ; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 20:03:49 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from scottro@nyc.rr.com) Received: from nyserve3.starlofashions.com ([192.0.0.230]) by mail.starlofashions.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA20129; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 16:03:41 -0400 Received: from uws1.starlofashions.com (uws1.starlofashions.com [192.168.8.230]) by nyserve3.starlofashions.com (Postfix) with SMTP id 58B8F60DB; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 16:03:41 -0400 (EDT) Received: by uws1.starlofashions.com (sSMTP sendmail emulation); Thu, 7 Jul 2005 16:03:41 -0400 Date: Thu, 7 Jul 2005 16:03:41 -0400 From: Scott Robbins To: talk@lists.nycbug.org, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20050707200341.GA27985@uws1.starlofashions.com> Mail-Followup-To: talk@lists.nycbug.org, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-action=pgp-signed Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: mutt-ng devel (FreeBSD) Cc: Subject: Re: [nycbug-talk] Minimum Install w/ X11 on Virtual PC X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 07 Jul 2005 20:03:51 -0000 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On Thu, Jul 07, 2005 at 02:40:09PM -0400, Hakim Singhji wrote: > Hi All, > > I am going to install FreeBSD 5.4 on MS Virtual PC. My PC (IBM > Thinkpad R51) only has 256MB of RAM available. I do not want to > install Gnome or KDE however I would like the benefits of colors in > text editors, backgrounds, etc. as this is going to be a testing > environment for application development. > > What is the best way to go about doing this? In VPC I allot > approximately 96MB of RAM for the Virtual Machine and I was thinking > 256MB for virtual SWAP (would that even help... the default is like > 166MB for 96MB of RAM... or something like that. If I understand your question, you'd like a window manager that is pretty light but has the ability to do backgrounds and the like. Both rxvt and aterm are lightweight xterms that can show backgrounds as they run--there is also eterm, but it's more resource intensive. As for the window manager itself, I like fluxbox, and it's considered relatively light. There is weewm, which can have a background image--actually, I think most of them can now, using xsetbg. Fluxbox has fbsetbg which will set a background, but does require some other program to do that--some people use feh, xv and xli are two other programs that can work with fbsetbg to set your background. I hope I've understood that aspect of your question. If not, apologies for wasting your time. - -- Scott Robbins GPG KeyID EB3467D6 ( 1B848 077D 66F6 9DB0 FDC2 A409 FA54 D575 EB34 67D6 ) gpg --keyserver pgp.mit.edu --recv-keys EB3467D6 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.1 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFCzYqd+lTVdes0Z9YRApO9AJ43TJNzDlkyrOj3A+7TiVevl9W+FACdFVhQ BdnWUecCa8GxxOzbuwFjRlQ= =j3gM -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jul 7 20:08:48 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0C6F116A41C for ; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 20:08:48 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from youshi10@u.washington.edu) Received: from mxout5.cac.washington.edu (mxout5.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.135]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C2F6443D53 for ; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 20:08:47 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from youshi10@u.washington.edu) Received: from dante68.u.washington.edu (dante68.u.washington.edu [140.142.15.49]) by mxout5.cac.washington.edu (8.13.4+UW05.04/8.13.4+UW05.05) with ESMTP id j67K8kZL032258 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Thu, 7 Jul 2005 13:08:47 -0700 Received: from localhost (youshi10@localhost) by dante68.u.washington.edu (8.13.4+UW05.03/8.13.4+UW05.05) with ESMTP id j67K8kw9219776; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 13:08:46 -0700 Date: Thu, 7 Jul 2005 13:08:46 -0700 (PDT) From: Garrett Cooper To: Scott Robbins In-Reply-To: <20050707200341.GA27985@uws1.starlofashions.com> Message-ID: References: <20050707200341.GA27985@uws1.starlofashions.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: [nycbug-talk] Minimum Install w/ X11 on Virtual PC X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 07 Jul 2005 20:08:48 -0000 Ah, yes... sorry for the poor answering earlier. eterm, aterm and xterm all handle terminal coloring very nicely, with eterm being the most resource hungry of the three terminals listed previously. My apologies for the confusing prior answer. -Garrett On Thu, 7 Jul 2005, Scott Robbins wrote: > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA1 > > On Thu, Jul 07, 2005 at 02:40:09PM -0400, Hakim Singhji wrote: >> Hi All, >> >> I am going to install FreeBSD 5.4 on MS Virtual PC. My PC (IBM >> Thinkpad R51) only has 256MB of RAM available. I do not want to >> install Gnome or KDE however I would like the benefits of colors in >> text editors, backgrounds, etc. as this is going to be a testing >> environment for application development. >> >> What is the best way to go about doing this? In VPC I allot >> approximately 96MB of RAM for the Virtual Machine and I was thinking >> 256MB for virtual SWAP (would that even help... the default is like >> 166MB for 96MB of RAM... or something like that. > > If I understand your question, you'd like a window manager that is > pretty light but has the ability to do backgrounds and the like. > Both rxvt and aterm are lightweight xterms that can show backgrounds as > they run--there is also eterm, but it's more resource intensive. > > As for the window manager itself, I like fluxbox, and it's considered > relatively light. There is weewm, which can have a background > image--actually, I think most of them can now, using xsetbg. Fluxbox > has fbsetbg which will set a background, but does require some other > program to do that--some people use feh, xv and xli are two other > programs that can work with fbsetbg to set your background. > > I hope I've understood that aspect of your question. If not, apologies > for wasting your time. > > - -- > Scott Robbins > GPG KeyID EB3467D6 > ( 1B848 077D 66F6 9DB0 FDC2 A409 FA54 D575 EB34 67D6 ) > gpg --keyserver pgp.mit.edu --recv-keys EB3467D6 > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- > Version: GnuPG v1.4.1 (FreeBSD) > > iD8DBQFCzYqd+lTVdes0Z9YRApO9AJ43TJNzDlkyrOj3A+7TiVevl9W+FACdFVhQ > BdnWUecCa8GxxOzbuwFjRlQ= > =j3gM > -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jul 7 20:14:33 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BB0F016A41C for ; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 20:14:33 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from list-freebsd-2004@morbius.sent.com) Received: from out2.smtp.messagingengine.com (out2.smtp.messagingengine.com [66.111.4.26]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 73BD743D49 for ; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 20:14:33 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from list-freebsd-2004@morbius.sent.com) Received: from frontend3.messagingengine.com (frontend3.internal [10.202.2.152]) by frontend1.messagingengine.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 15C85CBAFCE for ; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 16:14:32 -0400 (EDT) X-Sasl-enc: IviKToI77laT4y4mheb8Rr4IeiR5tf6GiCKXeJ+TTylL 1120767272 Received: from gumby.localdomain (dsl-80-41-73-249.access.as9105.com [80.41.73.249]) by frontend3.messagingengine.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0FB461DC for ; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 16:14:32 -0400 (EDT) From: RW To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Thu, 7 Jul 2005 21:14:31 +0100 User-Agent: KMail/1.8.1 References: <20050706191003.GA79388@kongemord.krig.net> In-Reply-To: <20050706191003.GA79388@kongemord.krig.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200507072114.31582.list-freebsd-2004@morbius.sent.com> Subject: Re: perl-after-upgrade X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 07 Jul 2005 20:14:33 -0000 On Wednesday 06 July 2005 20:10, Bob Hall wrote: > I don't know squat about perl. I recently ran portupgrade, which > upgraded perl. Goose stopped working, because the location for Curses.pm > was no longer in @INC. I tried to run perl-after-upgrade, but I couldn't > get it to run. I've got a book that said to use > # perl perl-after-upgrade > or > # ./perl-after-upgrade > I also tried just > # perl-after-upgrade > No joy. Just for the heck of it, I tried > * sh perl-after-upgrade > and dang if it didn't run. It didn't look to me like an sh script, but > what do I know? It wasn't supposed to change anything without the -f > option, but goose ran afterward, so it obviously changed things. I > looked for Curses.pm, and it moved to a directory listed in @INC. > > Anybody have any advice? Comments? How was I supposed to get > perl-after-upgrade to run? I used to be a bit sceptical about portmanager, but for the sake of a few hours of unattended extra building, you can simply ignore this kind of thing. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jul 7 20:17:24 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BF87416A41C for ; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 20:17:24 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from hzs202@gmail.com) Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.196]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3B0E443D45 for ; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 20:17:24 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from hzs202@gmail.com) Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id i7so299466wra for ; Thu, 07 Jul 2005 13:17:23 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=cujUAbPM6CU4jSO900kChxRgz2YSD7UHmbmOEh//TLJoeYBgm8E7uL5SZWGUlsxOHagplL9e1l9oONGrOn5h9U98Wc4Jkci0Dtkks5r1pIPEoupnlGtWa7D3ZtpPv9gD0kZA+9pIfqQLL9ObpNEiST7VEPD4irPl3C+sKwGFmjY= Received: by 10.54.39.42 with SMTP id m42mr986152wrm; Thu, 07 Jul 2005 13:17:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.124.5 with HTTP; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 13:17:23 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Thu, 7 Jul 2005 16:17:23 -0400 From: Hakim Singhji To: Garrett Cooper In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline References: <20050707200341.GA27985@uws1.starlofashions.com> Cc: Scott Robbins , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: [nycbug-talk] Minimum Install w/ X11 on Virtual PC X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: hzs202@nyu.edu List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 07 Jul 2005 20:17:25 -0000 Actually Garrett, Your first answer was quite helpful as well. I am trying to figure out the best way to use X windows, a wm and xterm in a manner that will not slow down performance to a crawl, something that will resemble my development environment on my main machine without a full install or dual boot on this laptop. Will I be able to find everthing I need in the ports collection. On 7/7/05, Garrett Cooper wrote: > Ah, yes... sorry for the poor answering earlier. eterm, aterm and > xterm all handle terminal coloring very nicely, with eterm being the most > resource hungry of the three terminals listed previously. > My apologies for the confusing prior answer. > -Garrett >=20 > On Thu, 7 Jul 2005, Scott Robbins wrote: >=20 > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > > Hash: SHA1 > > > > On Thu, Jul 07, 2005 at 02:40:09PM -0400, Hakim Singhji wrote: > >> Hi All, > >> > >> I am going to install FreeBSD 5.4 on MS Virtual PC. My PC (IBM > >> Thinkpad R51) only has 256MB of RAM available. I do not want to > >> install Gnome or KDE however I would like the benefits of colors in > >> text editors, backgrounds, etc. as this is going to be a testing > >> environment for application development. > >> > >> What is the best way to go about doing this? In VPC I allot > >> approximately 96MB of RAM for the Virtual Machine and I was thinking > >> 256MB for virtual SWAP (would that even help... the default is like > >> 166MB for 96MB of RAM... or something like that. > > > > If I understand your question, you'd like a window manager that is > > pretty light but has the ability to do backgrounds and the like. > > Both rxvt and aterm are lightweight xterms that can show backgrounds as > > they run--there is also eterm, but it's more resource intensive. > > > > As for the window manager itself, I like fluxbox, and it's considered > > relatively light. There is weewm, which can have a background > > image--actually, I think most of them can now, using xsetbg. Fluxbox > > has fbsetbg which will set a background, but does require some other > > program to do that--some people use feh, xv and xli are two other > > programs that can work with fbsetbg to set your background. > > > > I hope I've understood that aspect of your question. If not, apologies > > for wasting your time. > > > > - -- > > Scott Robbins > > GPG KeyID EB3467D6 > > ( 1B848 077D 66F6 9DB0 FDC2 A409 FA54 D575 EB34 67D6 ) > > gpg --keyserver pgp.mit.edu --recv-keys EB3467D6 > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- > > Version: GnuPG v1.4.1 (FreeBSD) > > > > iD8DBQFCzYqd+lTVdes0Z9YRApO9AJ43TJNzDlkyrOj3A+7TiVevl9W+FACdFVhQ > > BdnWUecCa8GxxOzbuwFjRlQ=3D > > =3Dj3gM > > -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- > > _______________________________________________ > > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd= .org" > > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.o= rg" >=20 --=20 Hakim Singhji hzs202@nyu.edu "Where danger is, grows the saving power also" (qtd. in Heidegger 28). From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jul 7 20:20:38 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 74E5216A41C for ; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 20:20:38 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from korpuskularny@o2.pl) Received: from kogut.o2.pl (kogut.o2.pl [212.126.20.61]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1EBA343D45 for ; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 20:20:37 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from korpuskularny@o2.pl) Received: from dqa97.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl (dqa97.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl [83.24.160.97]) by kogut.o2.pl (o2.pl Mailer 2.0.1) with ESMTP id 373D12EE89E for ; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 22:20:36 +0200 (CEST) Date: Thu, 7 Jul 2005 22:20:42 +0200 From: Zenobius Xavierus X-Mailer: The Bat! (v3.5.30) UNREG / CD5BF9353B3B7091 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <544602095.20050707222042@o2.pl> To: FreeBSD-question In-Reply-To: <9010235839.20050707220109@o2.pl> References: <40871880.20050707184854@o2.pl> <9010235839.20050707220109@o2.pl> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Fwd: Re[2]: hang-up's on clean FreeBSD 5.4 on compilation X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Zenobius Xavierus List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 07 Jul 2005 20:20:38 -0000 DM> Looks like that. There is a couple of memory test programs, I like these: DM> http://www.memtest86.com/ DM> http://www.ocztechnology.com/aboutocz/press/2004/114 Yep, it was memory problem. I had 2x64Mb and 1x128 - the 64 modules was my friends.. and they are corrupt. Sorry for trashing up the list ;-) -- Pozdrawiam Piotr Baranowski From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jul 7 20:51:31 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8FFE716A41C for ; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 20:51:31 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from rjhjr@cox.net) Received: from lakermmtao07.cox.net (lakermmtao07.cox.net [68.230.240.32]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 112D143D46 for ; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 20:51:30 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from rjhjr@cox.net) Received: from localhost ([68.230.186.138]) by lakermmtao07.cox.net (InterMail vM.6.01.04.00 201-2131-118-20041027) with ESMTP id <20050707205127.WHSK28809.lakermmtao07.cox.net@localhost> for ; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 16:51:27 -0400 Date: Thu, 7 Jul 2005 16:51:27 -0400 From: Bob Hall To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20050707205127.GB86220@kongemord.krig.net> Mail-Followup-To: Bob Hall , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <20050706191003.GA79388@kongemord.krig.net> <42CD5E9E.7040904@acm.org> <20050707183944.GA85644@kongemord.krig.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Subject: Re: perl-after-upgrade X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 07 Jul 2005 20:51:31 -0000 On Thu, Jul 07, 2005 at 01:53:48PM -0500, Paul Schmehl wrote: > --On Thursday, July 07, 2005 14:39:44 -0400 Bob Hall wrote: > > > >As I stated above, I used portupgrade. That means that any messages at > >the end of the perl upgrade scrolled off the screen and out of the > >screen buffer when portupgrade carried out the next install. One of the > >problems with portupgrade is that you rarely see the post-upgrade > >messages when you do batch upgrades. > > > That's an easily solved problem. After you finish portupgrade, view the > pkg-message file in any port you have a question about. E.g. % view > /usr/ports/lang/perl5.8/pkg-message Aha. The instructions in the post-install message are not repeated in the perldoc page. And the message does suggest using "rehash". Thanks. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jul 7 21:08:11 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0C85F16A41C for ; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 21:08:11 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ml@t-b-o-h.net) Received: from vjofn.tucs-beachin-obx-house.com (vjofn.tucs-beachin-obx-house.com [204.107.90.128]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 83F5843D48 for ; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 21:08:10 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ml@t-b-o-h.net) Received: from himinbjorg.tucs-beachin-obx-house.com (ool-44c511d8.dyn.optonline.net [68.197.17.216]) (authenticated bits=128) by vjofn.tucs-beachin-obx-house.com (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id j67L4Ovd072659; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 17:04:25 -0400 (EDT) Received: from himinbjorg.tucs-beachin-obx-house.com (localhost.tucs-beachin-obx-house.com [127.0.0.1]) by himinbjorg.tucs-beachin-obx-house.com (8.13.3/8.12.10) with ESMTP id j67L81te018340; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 17:08:01 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from ml@t-b-o-h.net) Received: (from tbohml@localhost) by himinbjorg.tucs-beachin-obx-house.com (8.13.3/8.13.1/Submit) id j67L81Vs018338; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 17:08:01 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from tbohml) From: Tuc at T-B-O-H Message-Id: <200507072108.j67L81Vs018338@himinbjorg.tucs-beachin-obx-house.com> To: xfb52@dial.pipex.com (Alex Zbyslaw) Date: Thu, 7 Jul 2005 17:08:01 -0400 (EDT) In-Reply-To: <42B84964.6070909@dial.pipex.com> from "Alex Zbyslaw" at Jun 21, 2005 06:07:48 PM X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.5 PL6] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Tuc at T-B-O-H , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Problems since 5.3-RELEASE-p15 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 07 Jul 2005 21:08:11 -0000 > >>If the problem is intermittent then I would suspect the hardware (I > >>know, everyone always says that, but I really have used a brand new > >>server which segfaulted randomly and it really was a memory problem). > >>Try building a memtest86 CD from the ports (from a different machine > >>perhaps) and running it for at least several hours, though it might not > >>take that long. Your BIOS might also support extended memory tests (try > >>disabling quick POST) though they are supposed to be less effective than > >>memtest86. > >> > >> > >> > > Ok, will try that. I run SETI so I think I'm constantly stressing > >the machine. But I'll give it a try. > > > *If* there are intermittent memory errors, then it could be that SETI > always happens to get them in the data it is dealing with, in which case > it might run perfectly happily but just produce the wrong results. > Memtest is dull, and stops you using your PC, but like Windows virus > scans, it seems like a necessary evil in this case. > I did the standard tests for 24 hours (21 passes) and it didn't fail. I ran the 90 minute fading one for 24 hours (8 runs) and it too didn't fail. Tuc From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jul 7 21:30:02 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0616516A41C for ; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 21:30:02 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from efrenba@dhl.co.cu) Received: from dhl.co.cu (DHLMAIL.dhl.co.cu [200.55.156.130]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0754D43D49 for ; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 21:29:55 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from efrenba@dhl.co.cu) Received: from [127.0.0.1] by dhl.co.cu (MDaemon.PRO.v8.0.2.R) with ESMTP id md50000016478.msg for ; Thu, 07 Jul 2005 17:28:45 -0500 Message-ID: <42CD9EAF.1000307@dhl.co.cu> Date: Thu, 07 Jul 2005 17:29:19 -0400 From: Efren Bravo User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.2 (Windows/20050317) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freeBSD Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Authenticated-Sender: efrenba@dhl.co.cu X-Spam-Processed: dhl.co.cu, Thu, 07 Jul 2005 17:28:45 -0500 (not processed: message from valid local sender) X-Lookup-Warning: HELO/EHLO lookup on 127.0.0.1 does not match 199.41.113.98 X-MDRemoteIP: 199.41.113.98 X-Return-Path: efrenba@dhl.co.cu X-MDaemon-Deliver-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-MDAV-Processed: dhl.co.cu, Thu, 07 Jul 2005 17:28:46 -0500 Subject: Remote connection as root help X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 07 Jul 2005 21:30:02 -0000 Hi, Al last I could enter to freeBSD by SSH. After I erased all inetd_enable="YES" instances except one. Also I downloaded the PuTTY client. I had to create other user to connect myself to freeBSD because it doesn't leave me as root user. How do I to connect myself to freeBSD by ssh as root? Thanks... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jul 7 21:31:12 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1DCA816A41C for ; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 21:31:12 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from freebsd@searchy.nl) Received: from s001.searchy.nl (s001.searchy.nl [82.94.249.202]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C738B43D48 for ; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 21:31:09 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from freebsd@searchy.nl) Received: from [192.168.1.14] (53525E6F.cable.casema.nl [83.82.94.111]) by s001.searchy.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 99B288D60D for ; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 23:31:07 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <42CD9F1C.40003@searchy.nl> Date: Thu, 07 Jul 2005 23:31:08 +0200 From: Frank de Bot User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.7.5) Gecko/20041217 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Enigmail-Version: 0.90.0.0 X-Enigmail-Supports: pgp-inline, pgp-mime Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Libz X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 07 Jul 2005 21:31:12 -0000 Recently a bug was discoverd which affected various unix platforms including FreeBSD. ( ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/CERT/advisories/FreeBSD-SA-05:16.zlib.asc ) But it say it only affects the 5.x releases and not the 4. Is it true only the 5.x releases are affected? (I think it rather odd, because libz is pretty 'universal' Thanks in advanced, Frank From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jul 7 21:36:15 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6D79016A41C for ; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 21:36:15 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jdyke@azimapower.com) Received: from extgw01.msys.intellispace.net (extgw01.msys.intellispace.net [160.79.150.226]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2FA9043D4C for ; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 21:36:15 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jdyke@azimapower.com) Received: from malone.intellispace.net (malone.intellispace.net [160.79.145.141]) by extgw01.msys.intellispace.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2DF7FC714B; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 17:37:47 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [192.168.2.45] (66.9.108.98) by malone.intellispace.net (5.1.053) id 42CC71620006A246; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 17:34:44 -0400 Message-ID: <42CDA0C5.2030703@azimapower.com> Date: Thu, 07 Jul 2005 21:38:13 +0000 From: jdyke Organization: Azima Inc. User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (Windows/20041206) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Efren Bravo References: <42CD9EAF.1000307@dhl.co.cu> In-Reply-To: <42CD9EAF.1000307@dhl.co.cu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freeBSD Subject: Re: Remote connection as root help X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: jdyke@azimapower.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 07 Jul 2005 21:36:15 -0000 Efren Bravo wrote: > Hi, > > Al last I could enter to freeBSD by SSH. After I erased all > inetd_enable="YES" instances except one. Also I downloaded the PuTTY > client. > I had to create other user to connect myself to freeBSD because it > doesn't leave me as root user. > How do I to connect myself to freeBSD by ssh as root? you really should not. but if you abosolutely want to, you can modify /etc/ssh/sshd_config and add PermitRootLogin Yes, its either commented out andn/or set to no, the default. If this is open to any other traffic except for local lan, then just use the better approach.... ssh in and then `su - ` and enter roots password. of course to do this, you must have entered your other user as part of group 'wheel' Jd > > Thanks... > > > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jul 7 21:38:04 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C681916A458 for ; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 21:38:04 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from gabor.kovesdan@t-hosting.hu) Received: from server.t-hosting.hu (server.t-hosting.hu [217.20.133.7]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 62B3443D45 for ; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 21:38:04 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from gabor.kovesdan@t-hosting.hu) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by server.t-hosting.hu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 34A649976DE; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 23:38:02 +0200 (CEST) Received: from server.t-hosting.hu ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (server.t-hosting.hu [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 29069-04-2; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 23:37:57 +0200 (CEST) Received: from [80.98.156.20] (catv-50629c14.catv.broadband.hu [80.98.156.20]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by server.t-hosting.hu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1FCA9997472; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 23:37:57 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <42CDA0B4.7070700@t-hosting.hu> Date: Thu, 07 Jul 2005 23:37:56 +0200 From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?K=F6vesd=E1n_G=E1bor?= User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.2 (Windows/20050317) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Frank de Bot References: <42CD9F1C.40003@searchy.nl> In-Reply-To: <42CD9F1C.40003@searchy.nl> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at t-hosting.hu Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Libz X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 07 Jul 2005 21:38:05 -0000 Frank de Bot wrote: > Recently a bug was discoverd which affected various unix platforms > including FreeBSD. ( > ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/CERT/advisories/FreeBSD-SA-05:16.zlib.asc > ) > > But it say it only affects the 5.x releases and not the 4. Is it true > only the 5.x releases are affected? (I think it rather odd, because > libz is pretty 'universal' > Hi, Yes, it's true. Only 5.3 and 5.4 are affected. Colin Percival has confirmed this on the freebsd-security list. Cheers, Gábor Kövesdán From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jul 7 21:38:40 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E96BD16A41C for ; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 21:38:40 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jeremy@smart-serv.net) Received: from smart-serv.net (smart-serv.net [64.251.71.178]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E721E43D49 for ; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 21:38:39 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jeremy@smart-serv.net) Received: (qmail 31142 invoked by uid 0); 7 Jul 2005 21:38:39 -0000 Received: from 64.251.71.178 by smart-serv.net (envelope-from , uid 0) with qmail-scanner-1.25 (clamdscan: 0.83/839. spamassassin: 3.0.2. Clear:RC:1(64.251.71.178):. Processed in 0.342868 secs); 07 Jul 2005 21:38:39 -0000 X-Qmail-Scanner-Mail-From: jeremy@smart-serv.net via smart-serv.net X-Qmail-Scanner: 1.25 (Clear:RC:1(64.251.71.178):. 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(@64.251.71.178) by smart-serv.net with SMTP; 7 Jul 2005 21:38:38 -0000 Message-ID: <42CDA0DB.2020406@smart-serv.net> Date: Thu, 07 Jul 2005 14:38:35 -0700 From: Jeremy Johnston Organization: SmartServ Hosting User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (X11/20050205) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Efren Bravo References: <42CD9EAF.1000307@dhl.co.cu> In-Reply-To: <42CD9EAF.1000307@dhl.co.cu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Remote connection as root help X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: jeremy@smart-serv.net List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 07 Jul 2005 21:38:41 -0000 Well first off its not the best idea, to enable it you need to edit the PermitRootLogin option in /etc/ssh/sshd_config then restart sshd (sh /etc/rc.d/sshd restart) Efren Bravo wrote: > Hi, > > Al last I could enter to freeBSD by SSH. After I erased all > inetd_enable="YES" instances except one. Also I downloaded the PuTTY > client. > I had to create other user to connect myself to freeBSD because it > doesn't leave me as root user. > How do I to connect myself to freeBSD by ssh as root? > > Thanks... > > > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > -- Jeremy Johnston (President / Developer) SmartServ Hosting Email: jeremy@smart-serv.net Phone: 1-250-402-6634 Ext. 201 Cell: 1-250-402-9583 | 2504029583@msg.telus.com (150 Characters max) Fax: 1-250-402-6634 Toll Free: 1-866-702-2904 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jul 7 21:50:17 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A30ED16A41C for ; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 21:50:17 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from cswiger@mac.com) Received: from smtpout.mac.com (smtpout.mac.com [17.250.248.70]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 784A343D48 for ; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 21:50:17 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from cswiger@mac.com) Received: from mac.com (smtpin01-en2 [10.13.10.146]) by smtpout.mac.com (Xserve/8.12.11/smtpout13/MantshX 4.0) with ESMTP id j67LoDQ9010047; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 14:50:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [10.1.1.209] (nfw2.codefab.com [199.103.21.225] (may be forged)) (authenticated bits=0) by mac.com (Xserve/smtpin01/MantshX 4.0) with ESMTP id j67LoBrs028935; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 14:50:12 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <42CD9F1C.40003@searchy.nl> References: <42CD9F1C.40003@searchy.nl> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v730) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Charles Swiger Date: Thu, 7 Jul 2005 17:50:09 -0400 To: Frank de Bot X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.730) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Libz X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 07 Jul 2005 21:50:17 -0000 On Jul 7, 2005, at 5:31 PM, Frank de Bot wrote: > Recently a bug was discoverd which affected various unix platforms > including FreeBSD. ( ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/CERT/ > advisories/FreeBSD-SA-05:16.zlib.asc ) > > But it say it only affects the 5.x releases and not the 4. Is it > true only the 5.x releases are affected? (I think it rather odd, > because libz is pretty 'universal' I believe FreeBSD-4.x ships with zlib-1.1.x, whereas the security problem described above affects only the zlib-1.2.x branch found in FreeBSD-5, Linux, and elsewhere. I seem to recall Colin Percival saying as much, but you can double-check with the security officer if you like... -- -Chuck From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jul 7 22:02:09 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 33F7B16A41F for ; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 22:02:09 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jeremy@smart-serv.net) Received: from smart-serv.net (smart-serv.net [64.251.71.178]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7964C43D46 for ; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 22:02:08 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jeremy@smart-serv.net) Received: (qmail 34852 invoked by uid 0); 7 Jul 2005 22:02:07 -0000 Received: from 64.251.71.178 by smart-serv.net (envelope-from , uid 0) with qmail-scanner-1.25 (clamdscan: 0.83/839. spamassassin: 3.0.2. Clear:RC:1(64.251.71.178):. 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(@64.251.71.178) by smart-serv.net with SMTP; 7 Jul 2005 22:02:07 -0000 Message-ID: <42CDA65C.3020903@smart-serv.net> Date: Thu, 07 Jul 2005 15:02:04 -0700 From: Jeremy Johnston Organization: SmartServ Hosting User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (X11/20050205) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Efren Bravo References: <42CD9EAF.1000307@dhl.co.cu> <42CDA0DB.2020406@smart-serv.net> <42CDA47B.4000006@dhl.co.cu> In-Reply-To: <42CDA47B.4000006@dhl.co.cu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Remote connection as root help X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: jeremy@smart-serv.net List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 07 Jul 2005 22:02:09 -0000 Efren Bravo wrote: > Hi, > >> Well first off its not the best idea, to enable it you need to edit >> the PermitRootLogin >> option in /etc/ssh/sshd_config then restart sshd (sh /etc/rc.d/sshd >> restart) >> > > Would be a better idea to enter as other member user of wheel group > and then become this user as root by "su" command or the group wheel > has special privileges? > > Thanks...... > > > Correct. And your username must be part of the wheel group to allow it to preform su -- Jeremy Johnston (President / Developer) SmartServ Hosting Email: jeremy@smart-serv.net Phone: 1-250-402-6634 Ext. 201 Cell: 1-250-402-9583 | 2504029583@msg.telus.com (150 Characters max) Fax: 1-250-402-6634 Toll Free: 1-866-702-2904 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jul 7 22:16:04 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D95B616A41F for ; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 22:16:04 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from freebsd@searchy.nl) Received: from s001.searchy.nl (s001.searchy.nl [82.94.249.202]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 806A043D46 for ; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 22:16:04 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from freebsd@searchy.nl) Received: from [192.168.1.14] (53525E6F.cable.casema.nl [83.82.94.111]) by s001.searchy.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 71F8F8EC12 for ; Fri, 8 Jul 2005 00:16:03 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <42CDA9A3.5090107@searchy.nl> Date: Fri, 08 Jul 2005 00:16:03 +0200 From: Frank de Bot User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.7.5) Gecko/20041217 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Enigmail-Version: 0.90.0.0 X-Enigmail-Supports: pgp-inline, pgp-mime Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Serial Access X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 07 Jul 2005 22:16:05 -0000 Hi, My server support by bios remote access via the serial port. Configured it, bios shows up on my terminal client. But as soon the FreeBSD has been loaded. (Last message I get through was: "Press [enter] to boot immedialty". Is it needed for FreeBSD to take over the serial console from here, or can it continue to show things without the help of FreeBSD? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jul 7 22:35:28 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BE4B616A41C for ; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 22:35:28 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from Emanuel.strobl@gmx.net) Received: from mail.gmx.net (imap.gmx.net [213.165.64.20]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 0F8A943D48 for ; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 22:35:27 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from Emanuel.strobl@gmx.net) Received: (qmail invoked by alias); 07 Jul 2005 22:35:26 -0000 Received: from flb.schmalzbauer.de (EHLO cale.flintsbach.schmalzbauer.de) [62.245.232.135] by mail.gmx.net (mp024) with SMTP; 08 Jul 2005 00:35:26 +0200 X-Authenticated: #301138 From: Emanuel Strobl To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Fri, 8 Jul 2005 00:35:14 +0200 User-Agent: KMail/1.8 References: <42CDA9A3.5090107@searchy.nl> In-Reply-To: <42CDA9A3.5090107@searchy.nl> X-Birthday: Oct. 6th 1972 X-CelPhone: +49 (0) 173 9967781 X-Tel: +49 (0) 89 18947781 X-Country: Germany X-Address: Munich, 80686 X-OS: FreeBSD MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="nextPart1307004.DjBEAaFrmX"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=pgp-sha1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <200507080035.22406@harrymail> X-Y-GMX-Trusted: 0 Cc: Frank de Bot Subject: Re: Serial Access X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 07 Jul 2005 22:35:28 -0000 --nextPart1307004.DjBEAaFrmX Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline Am Freitag, 8. Juli 2005 00:16 schrieb Frank de Bot: > Hi, > > My server support by bios remote access via the serial port. Configured > it, bios shows up on my terminal client. But as soon the FreeBSD has > been loaded. (Last message I get through was: "Press [enter] to boot > immedialty". > Is it needed for FreeBSD to take over the serial console from here, or > can it continue to show things without the help of FreeBSD? You have to tell the kernel to use the serial port as console. You can do=20 so by adding the line "console=3Dcomconsole" to /boot/loader.conf or=20 instruct the first stage loader to use serail console with the command=20 'echo -h > /boot.config' =46or serial port configuration you may also want to have a look at the=20 sysctl machdep.conspeed and to the /etc/make.conf option=20 BOOT_COMCONSOLE_PORT and BOOT_COMCONSOLE_SPEED, both compile time=20 variables. If you want to have a login on the serial line you also have to enable a=20 getty in /etc/ttys. Best regards, =2DHarry > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" --nextPart1307004.DjBEAaFrmX Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.1 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQBCza4qBylq0S4AzzwRAkPtAJsEJMvfoYURJQA6jOnSWO1TVg1gYQCcCzBT xos+z+cBiLIXrIPS/eFsMHQ= =v+qQ -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --nextPart1307004.DjBEAaFrmX-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jul 7 22:40:47 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D165D16A41C for ; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 22:40:47 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from leblanc@keyslapper.net) Received: from english-breakfast.cloud9.net (english-breakfast.cloud9.net [168.100.1.9]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5FD4543D48 for ; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 22:40:43 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from leblanc@keyslapper.net) Received: from english-breakfast.cloud9.net (localhost.cloud9.net [127.0.0.1]) by english-breakfast.cloud9.net (Postfix) with SMTP id 69ECDA92D for ; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 18:40:42 -0400 (EDT) Received: from keyslapper.net (250-119.customer.cloud9.net [168.100.250.119]) by english-breakfast.cloud9.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id F0419A96A for ; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 18:40:41 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by keyslapper.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 94CF311686 for ; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 18:40:41 -0400 (EDT) Received: from keyslapper.net ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (keyslapper.net [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 26279-10 for ; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 18:40:41 -0400 (EDT) Received: by keyslapper.net (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 67F5011660; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 18:40:41 -0400 (EDT) Date: Thu, 7 Jul 2005 18:40:41 -0400 From: Louis LeBlanc To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20050707224041.GC27184@keyslapper.net> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <42CD9F1C.40003@searchy.nl> <42CDA0B4.7070700@t-hosting.hu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="PNTmBPCT7hxwcZjr" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <42CDA0B4.7070700@t-hosting.hu> X-PGP-Key: http://www.keyslapper.net/~leblanc/leblanc-at-keyslapper-net.asc User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.9i X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at keyslapper.net X-AntiVirus: Checked by Vexira Antivirus v1.5 Subject: Re: Libz X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 07 Jul 2005 22:40:48 -0000 --PNTmBPCT7hxwcZjr Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 07/07/05 11:37 PM, Kvesdn Gbor sat at the `puter and typed: > Frank de Bot wrote: >=20 > > Recently a bug was discoverd which affected various unix platforms=20 > > including FreeBSD. (=20 > > ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/CERT/advisories/FreeBSD-SA-05:16.zlib= =2Easc=20 > > ) > > > > But it say it only affects the 5.x releases and not the 4. Is it true= =20 > > only the 5.x releases are affected? (I think it rather odd, because=20 > > libz is pretty 'universal' > > > Hi, >=20 > Yes, it's true. Only 5.3 and 5.4 are affected. Colin Percival has=20 > confirmed this on the freebsd-security list. Keep in mind, this is already fixed in both versions: Corrected: 2005-07-06 14:01:11 UTC (RELENG_5, 5.4-STABLE) 2005-07-06 14:01:30 UTC (RELENG_5_4, 5.4-RELEASE-p4) 2005-07-06 14:01:52 UTC (RELENG_5_3, 5.3-RELEASE-p18) 5.4-RELEASE-p4 was tagged yesterday. Lou --=20 Louis LeBlanc FreeBSD-at-keyslapper-DOT-net Fully Funded Hobbyist, KeySlapper Extrordinaire :) Please send off-list email to: leblanc at keyslapper d.t net Key fingerprint =3D C5E7 4762 F071 CE3B ED51 4FB8 AF85 A2FE 80C8 D9A2 Gilbert's Discovery: Any attempt to use the new super glues results in the two pieces sticking to your thumb and index finger rather than to each other. --PNTmBPCT7hxwcZjr Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.1 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFCza9pr4Wi/oDI2aIRAgXwAJ94ff5VvrcR1arsXqiHVOq5PIsg1gCfesxx mW9+kcvfCgqnrSpBS/p1ak4= =h9uf -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --PNTmBPCT7hxwcZjr-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jul 7 22:41:22 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1A9E716A41C for ; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 22:41:22 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from xfb52@dial.pipex.com) Received: from smtp-out6.blueyonder.co.uk (smtp-out6.blueyonder.co.uk [195.188.213.9]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 842EA43D45 for ; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 22:41:20 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from xfb52@dial.pipex.com) Received: from [82.41.37.55] ([82.41.37.55]) by smtp-out6.blueyonder.co.uk with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.6713); Thu, 7 Jul 2005 23:42:03 +0100 Message-ID: <42CDAF8F.5080807@dial.pipex.com> Date: Thu, 07 Jul 2005 23:41:19 +0100 From: Alex Zbyslaw User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-GB; rv:1.7.8) Gecko/20050530 X-Accept-Language: en, en-us, pl MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Tuc at T-B-O-H References: <200507072108.j67L81Vs018338@himinbjorg.tucs-beachin-obx-house.com> In-Reply-To: <200507072108.j67L81Vs018338@himinbjorg.tucs-beachin-obx-house.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-OriginalArrivalTime: 07 Jul 2005 22:42:03.0191 (UTC) FILETIME=[18331470:01C58345] Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Problems since 5.3-RELEASE-p15 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 07 Jul 2005 22:41:22 -0000 Tuc at T-B-O-H wrote: >>*If* there are intermittent memory errors, then it could be that SETI >>always happens to get them in the data it is dealing with, in which case >>it might run perfectly happily but just produce the wrong results. >>Memtest is dull, and stops you using your PC, but like Windows virus >>scans, it seems like a necessary evil in this case. >> >> >> > I did the standard tests for 24 hours (21 passes) and it didn't fail. >I ran the 90 minute fading one for 24 hours (8 runs) and it too didn't fail. > > It's almost a shame when a test like this passes. It's much easier to just replace some memory and get on with things than be stuck with an intermittent problem. Could something be overheating? Are you still getting random segfaults? Is there *any* pattern you can see? --Alex From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jul 7 22:52:38 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 90E1F16A41C for ; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 22:52:38 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from xfb52@dial.pipex.com) Received: from smtp-out4.blueyonder.co.uk (smtp-out4.blueyonder.co.uk [195.188.213.7]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1658C43D46 for ; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 22:52:37 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from xfb52@dial.pipex.com) Received: from [82.41.37.55] ([82.41.37.55]) by smtp-out4.blueyonder.co.uk with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.6713); Thu, 7 Jul 2005 23:53:19 +0100 Message-ID: <42CDB233.4050402@dial.pipex.com> Date: Thu, 07 Jul 2005 23:52:35 +0100 From: Alex Zbyslaw User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-GB; rv:1.7.8) Gecko/20050530 X-Accept-Language: en, en-us, pl MIME-Version: 1.0 To: RW References: <20050707111924.950B043D58@mx1.FreeBSD.org> <1e22f35905070707427dbd31f7@mail.gmail.com> <42CD660E.8090408@dial.pipex.com> <200507072055.59414.list-freebsd-2004@morbius.sent.com> In-Reply-To: <200507072055.59414.list-freebsd-2004@morbius.sent.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-OriginalArrivalTime: 07 Jul 2005 22:53:19.0342 (UTC) FILETIME=[AB3788E0:01C58346] Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Did we must put the mounted partition '/' and '/boot' in the same slice ? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 07 Jul 2005 22:52:38 -0000 RW wrote: >On Thursday 07 July 2005 18:27, Alex Zbyslaw wrote: > > >>1Gb just because it's peanuts to a 200Gb disk, and I don't bother with >>/tmp separately. >> >> > >I use one because, by default, / is mounted without soft-updates. It is >possible to turn it on, but for the sake of a few hundred MB it seems >sensible to go with the default of a separate partition. > > If I ran a machine with users on it, I might agree :-) But there's just me and I set TMP and TMPDIR to /var/tmp which many programs used to pick up on when I first set them years ago. sort does, for e.g. and that was always a tmp killer in the kind of environments I worked in. Plus *I* know to use /var/tmp. Nowadays my /tmp has a small number of sockets and gubbins so I doubt softupdates would make any perceivable difference to me. Horses for courses, --Alex From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jul 7 23:02:20 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 00DCA16A41C for ; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 23:02:20 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from gayn.winters@mail.bristolsystems.com) Received: from dns.bristolsystems.com (h-68-167-239-98.noclli.covad.net [68.167.239.98]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BC4E643D45 for ; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 23:02:19 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from gayn.winters@mail.bristolsystems.com) Received: from workdog ([192.168.1.201]) by dns.bristolsystems.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id j67N1ag17309; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 16:01:36 -0700 From: "Gayn Winters" To: "'Evan Jones'" , Date: Thu, 7 Jul 2005 16:00:24 -0700 Message-ID: <078e01c58347$d10fd6c0$c901a8c0@workdog> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.4024 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 In-Reply-To: <42CD8716.8050204@tilcon.com> Importance: Normal Cc: Subject: RE: FreeBSD 5.4 and Sli 3114 sata controller broken? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 07 Jul 2005 23:02:20 -0000 > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > [mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org] On Behalf Of Evan Jones > Sent: Thursday, July 07, 2005 12:49 PM > To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > Subject: FreeBSD 5.4 and Sli 3114 sata controller broken? > > I have a Tyan s2882 mainboard with an integrated SLI 3114 SATA RAID > controler on board. I have four 120gig sata drives attached > to it. I can > succefully build a RAID 0, 1 or 10 in the BIOS, but the created RAID > dosent seem to show up in Freebsd. The drives get detected but I can > only seem to use them as individual drives and not a raid > array. I can > successfully create a raid using ATA control but from what I > understand > that is a software RAID only. > > Anyone know what is going on? I cant seem to find any info on > Sli 3114 > support in freebsd. > My guess is that you are going to have to wait for the "mk III" patches in the ata controller driver that are coming in 6.0. Those of us using the Intel ICH5 and ICH6 controllers (search for ICH6 in the mail archives for questions, hackers, and hardware) are in the same boat. To learn about mk III (or mk3) read Soren Schmidt's March progress report on the ata driver. Man ata shows that the SiI 3114 is supported, at least as a set of disks. -gayn From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jul 7 23:14:32 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E23E516A41C for ; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 23:14:32 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ml@t-b-o-h.net) Received: from vjofn.tucs-beachin-obx-house.com (vjofn.tucs-beachin-obx-house.com [204.107.90.128]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7F95743D45 for ; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 23:14:32 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ml@t-b-o-h.net) Received: from himinbjorg.tucs-beachin-obx-house.com (ool-44c511d8.dyn.optonline.net [68.197.17.216]) (authenticated bits=128) by vjofn.tucs-beachin-obx-house.com (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id j67NAjvd075578; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 19:10:46 -0400 (EDT) Received: from himinbjorg.tucs-beachin-obx-house.com (localhost.tucs-beachin-obx-house.com [127.0.0.1]) by himinbjorg.tucs-beachin-obx-house.com (8.13.3/8.12.10) with ESMTP id j67NEN75020567; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 19:14:23 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from ml@t-b-o-h.net) Received: (from tbohml@localhost) by himinbjorg.tucs-beachin-obx-house.com (8.13.3/8.13.1/Submit) id j67NENDG020566; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 19:14:23 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from tbohml) From: Tuc at T-B-O-H Message-Id: <200507072314.j67NENDG020566@himinbjorg.tucs-beachin-obx-house.com> To: xfb52@dial.pipex.com (Alex Zbyslaw) Date: Thu, 7 Jul 2005 19:14:23 -0400 (EDT) In-Reply-To: <42CDAF8F.5080807@dial.pipex.com> from "Alex Zbyslaw" at Jul 07, 2005 11:41:19 PM X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.5 PL6] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Tuc at T-B-O-H , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Problems since 5.3-RELEASE-p15 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 07 Jul 2005 23:14:33 -0000 > > I did the standard tests for 24 hours (21 passes) and it didn't fail. > >I ran the 90 minute fading one for 24 hours (8 runs) and it too didn't fail. > > It's almost a shame when a test like this passes. It's much easier to > just replace some memory and get on with things than be stuck with an > intermittent problem. > Understood. This is a Dell Laptop that JUST went out of 3 year warranty in May. Its still in pretty great condition, but if I had to start screwing around with it, I might just get something else... > > Could something be overheating? > I replaced the fans 6 months ago because it seemed a bearing was going. (And we found SO MUCH dust inside it that it wasn't cooling properly. Now that its clean, the fans even turn off at times!) Its happened on my lap, its happened on a glass table. > > Are you still getting random > segfaults? Is there *any* pattern you can see? > The only pattern I see is that it starts all of a sudden, goes for a little while, EVERYTHING you try to do fails, I get the /libexec/ld-elf.so.1: top: Shared object has no run-time symbol table type errors, and then all of a sudden it goes about its merry way. I'm not sure what a "run-time symbol table" is, and if it gets rebuilt at any time, or is something thats part of the program, or what.... But its not like one time it behaves one way, then another time it behaves another. I'd think if it was a memory issue, it'd be something other than the same "Shared object..." thing each time. One time it'd be a bus error, another time a "this isn't executable", etc.... Thanks, Tuc From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jul 7 23:23:10 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AC0AA16A41C for ; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 23:23:10 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from xfb52@dial.pipex.com) Received: from smtp-out5.blueyonder.co.uk (smtp-out5.blueyonder.co.uk [195.188.213.8]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 359FE43D46 for ; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 23:23:09 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from xfb52@dial.pipex.com) Received: from [82.41.37.55] ([82.41.37.55]) by smtp-out5.blueyonder.co.uk with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.6713); Fri, 8 Jul 2005 00:23:51 +0100 Message-ID: <42CDB95B.3030703@dial.pipex.com> Date: Fri, 08 Jul 2005 00:23:07 +0100 From: Alex Zbyslaw User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-GB; rv:1.7.8) Gecko/20050530 X-Accept-Language: en, en-us, pl MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-OriginalArrivalTime: 07 Jul 2005 23:23:51.0600 (UTC) FILETIME=[EF53EB00:01C5834A] Subject: SSH and gigabit NICs X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 07 Jul 2005 23:23:10 -0000 The setup: Both machines FreeBSD/i386 5.4 a) AMD64 machine with on-board Marvel Gigabit NIC b) Athlon XP with cheap SMC Gigabit NIC (also Marvel) Cabling is brand new Cat5e. Have tried various different cables of=20 different lengths to no effect. To rule out problems with a cheap switch, I have just wired the NICs=20 together. To benchmark, I had a huge bz2 file (430Mb) which I copied with scp and=20 ftp from machine a to machine b. On cheap NetGear 100Mb cards, the transfers both took ~40 seconds which=20 is ~80Mbit. On the new Gigabit hardware, ftp drops to 17 seconds, but scp takes=20 longer! Out of the box (no tweaking of any relevant parameters) it now=20 takes over 53 seconds. After tweaking tons of stuff, I can make scp take maybe 43 seconds, but=20 at those settings, ftp takes well over a minute! What is going on? I know that 17 seconds for the ftp is hardly stellar=20 (200+Mbit or so) but for =A350 I could live with that. But for ssh to ge= t=20 slower just boggles. These days, almost anything you do over a network=20 ends up using ssh -- specifically I was hoping to make rsyncs faster --=20 but for them to get slower? I've seen odd ssh network behaviour on other boxen. A couple old Linux=20 servers were 2-3 times slower for ssh than ftp, but I put it down to=20 oldness and Linux and general weirdness. They were on a 100Mbit network.= When I monitor with "systat -ifstat" I can see ftp keeping up a=20 reasonably regular transfer rate, but when I watch the ssh, it yoyos up=20 and down wildly, but still never gets above about 80Mbit. Both machines = have plenty of idle CPU and the ssh is not compressed. Does anyone have a clue what might be going on? So far I have tried: HZ=3D1000 on both machines. No effect. various net.inet.tcp.recvspace and net.inet.tcp.recvspace values on=20 both machines. About 4096 (down from the default of 32768) makes ssh=20 work "best", but stuffs ftp. 65536 improves ftp a bit but ssh goes up=20 to 53 seconds (~64Mbit). MTU values of 5-9000. ~6000 the scp seems to start a bit faster=20 (maybe 100Mbit) but soon drops back into the 60s. Before anyone asks, the driver doesn't seem to support polling. --Alex, baffled and really quite annoyed. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jul 7 23:32:24 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9B42F16A41C for ; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 23:32:24 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from j65nko@gmail.com) Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.201]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 35BD443D45 for ; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 23:32:24 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from j65nko@gmail.com) Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id o1so147409nzf for ; Thu, 07 Jul 2005 16:32:23 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=bY+PZNnjnyQ7Q7HZdajWyeLtoD2Y7OFKmVRVnk5IzXKkerkbX1sTEI3h/sNxLPiXgP2w/bO02/EVR92G/HSvfyWe8J4Q1j9/nT69JtQc7fqmcR1LeMrqADKT+tdWVAiU64uF3HsUaR80ORiAOTRdvDhqU8Vg4rMXbYLD/+SrRxU= Received: by 10.36.119.17 with SMTP id r17mr476028nzc; Thu, 07 Jul 2005 16:32:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.41.16 with HTTP; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 16:32:23 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <19861fba05070716321226c330@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 8 Jul 2005 01:32:23 +0200 From: J65nko BSD To: Brett Glass In-Reply-To: <6.2.1.2.2.20050706104045.0931c6b0@localhost> Mime-Version: 1.0 References: <6.2.1.2.2.20050706104045.0931c6b0@localhost> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Has this box been hacked? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: J65nko BSD List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 07 Jul 2005 23:32:24 -0000 On 7/6/05, Brett Glass wrote: >=20 > A client had a network problem, and I wanted to make sure that his FreeBS= D=20 > 4.11 > router wasn't the cause of it, so I rebooted it. I then did a "last"=20 > command > and saw the following: >=20 > root ttyv0 Tue Jul 5 12:01 - 12:05 (00:04) > admin ttyp0 localhost Tue Jul 5 11:57 - 11:57 (00:00) > root ttyv0 Tue Jul 5 11:49 - 12:00 (00:11) > reboot ~ Tue Jul 5 11:49 > shutdown ~ Tue Jul 5 11:47 > root ttyv0 Tue Jul 5 11:37 - shutdown (00:10) > reboot ~ Tue Jul 5 11:36 > shutdown ~ Tue Jul 5 05:36 > shutdown ~ Tue Jul 5 11:22 >=20 > Note the "shutdown" entry with the time 5:36 AM, which is odd because it'= s=20 > out of > chronological order and the other logs don't show the typical debug=20 > messages > at that time. Where might such an entry come from? How likely is it that= =20 > the box > has been rooted? Are there known exploits that might have been used to=20 > root a > FreeBSD 4.11-RELEASE machine? (The only unusual activity I can see in the= =20 > logs is a > few attempts to log in as "root" via SSH. The attempts that were logged= =20 > were > not successful, but of course a skilled attacker would cover his tracks.) If you would have installed something like tripwire or aide, you would have= =20 been in a better position to find out whether the box has been owned. See= =20 http://www.onlamp.com/pub/a/bsd/2003/04/03/FreeBSD_Basics.html =3DAdriaan=3D From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jul 7 23:56:18 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5855816A432 for ; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 23:56:18 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from sharkwang@gmail.com) Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.205]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EF8B643D48 for ; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 23:56:17 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from sharkwang@gmail.com) Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 36so431047wri for ; Thu, 07 Jul 2005 16:56:17 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=Loaw94cpdNSUyg6gU7LI16bWh56n573tF52iS5X+H+mAi6q4QLEuKagQbzS97A9ZxgKelEVaD5yWLS5MfIEgfp/syhtjjUr2D5FzCx+zDYCk3V08UyJPc0ZDg9Vz54kTSpAS3roeyrDK5P1T5fB/U35NnwFg5a0eR1deL6Xq99s= Received: by 10.54.20.60 with SMTP id 60mr206713wrt; Thu, 07 Jul 2005 16:56:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.19.45 with HTTP; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 16:56:17 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <1e22f35905070716565c6c653@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 8 Jul 2005 07:56:17 +0800 From: Shark Wang To: John McAree In-Reply-To: <40756.193.138.107.178.1120752253.squirrel@193.138.107.178> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline References: <40756.193.138.107.178.1120752253.squirrel@193.138.107.178> Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Did we must put the mounted partition '/' and '/boot' in the same slice ? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Shark Wang List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 07 Jul 2005 23:56:18 -0000 as I had read some partitions material about legacy Unix, I try to=20 separate '/boot' from '/' for my large space on '/' . another question come up : Is ad0s1d the first blocks of the disk which=20 based on partitions layout that my gave? thanks! -Shark On 7/8/05, John McAree wrote: > > the following is my partitions layout, pls help to do some check: > > > > ad0s1d /boot -> 30M > > ad0s1a / -> 512M > > ad0s1b swap -> 512M > > ad0s1e /usr -> 6144M > > ad0s1f /var -> 512M > > ad0s1g /home -> 2017M > > ad0s1h /tmp -> 512M >=20 > I believe /boot needs to be on the first 1024 blocks of the disk. Why do > you want a separate partition for /boot? >=20 > John. >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 --=20 I'm just a bitMaker ! From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jul 7 23:58:01 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E1C6E16A41C for ; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 23:58:01 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from admin2@enabled.com) Received: from typhoon.enabled.com (typhoon.enabled.com [216.218.220.21]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A8C5E43D4C for ; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 23:58:01 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from admin2@enabled.com) Received: from enabled.com (localhost.enabled.com [127.0.0.1]) by typhoon.enabled.com (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id j67NvxWP070681 for ; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 16:57:59 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from admin2@enabled.com) From: "Noah" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Thu, 7 Jul 2005 15:57:59 -0800 Message-Id: <20050707235724.M65580@enabled.com> X-Mailer: Open WebMail 2.51 20050228 X-OriginatingIP: 67.164.14.6 (admin2) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Subject: speedy-cgi-perl mail list or forum X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 07 Jul 2005 23:58:02 -0000 Somebody please direct me to a speedy-cgi-perl support mail list and/or support forum? thanks in advance, Noah From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jul 8 00:04:47 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 65DCD16A41C for ; Fri, 8 Jul 2005 00:04:47 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from fbsd_user@a1poweruser.com) Received: from mta13.adelphia.net (mta13.adelphia.net [68.168.78.44]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CB3A743D46 for ; Fri, 8 Jul 2005 00:04:46 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from fbsd_user@a1poweruser.com) Received: from barbish ([69.172.31.81]) by mta13.adelphia.net (InterMail vM.6.01.04.01 201-2131-118-101-20041129) with SMTP id <20050708000445.JHWF14360.mta13.adelphia.net@barbish> for ; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 20:04:45 -0400 From: "fbsd_user" To: "freebsd-questions@FreeBSD. ORG" Date: Thu, 7 Jul 2005 20:04:45 -0400 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.6604 (9.0.2911.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1409 Importance: Normal Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: Subject: PF firewall log problems X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: fbsd_user@a1poweruser.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 08 Jul 2005 00:04:47 -0000 How can I change the default wait time for PF buffer writes to the log file? The log records are being held in the buffers for a long time before being written out. I want to change this to a shorter time. Are there any tools or ports for use on the PF log file to create better standardized reports? Where can I find a description of the PF log record fields? Thanks From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jul 8 00:13:25 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 841EA16A41C for ; Fri, 8 Jul 2005 00:13:25 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from xfb52@dial.pipex.com) Received: from smtp-out3.blueyonder.co.uk (smtp-out3.blueyonder.co.uk [195.188.213.6]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0A17F43D49 for ; Fri, 8 Jul 2005 00:13:24 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from xfb52@dial.pipex.com) Received: from [82.41.37.55] ([82.41.37.55]) by smtp-out3.blueyonder.co.uk with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.6713); Fri, 8 Jul 2005 01:14:06 +0100 Message-ID: <42CDC522.5010309@dial.pipex.com> Date: Fri, 08 Jul 2005 01:13:22 +0100 From: Alex Zbyslaw User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-GB; rv:1.7.8) Gecko/20050530 X-Accept-Language: en, en-us, pl MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Tuc at T-B-O-H References: <200507072314.j67NENDG020566@himinbjorg.tucs-beachin-obx-house.com> In-Reply-To: <200507072314.j67NENDG020566@himinbjorg.tucs-beachin-obx-house.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-OriginalArrivalTime: 08 Jul 2005 00:14:06.0366 (UTC) FILETIME=[F444B3E0:01C58351] Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Problems since 5.3-RELEASE-p15 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 08 Jul 2005 00:13:25 -0000 Tuc at T-B-O-H wrote: >The only pattern I see is that it starts all of a sudden, goes for >a little while, EVERYTHING you try to do fails, I get the >/libexec/ld-elf.so.1: top: Shared object has no run-time symbol table >type errors, and then all of a sudden it goes about its merry way. > > I'm not sure what a "run-time symbol table" is, and if it gets >rebuilt at any time, or is something thats part of the program, or what.... >But its not like one time it behaves one way, then another time it behaves >another. > My description would be hazy at best, so hopefully someone more au fait will chime in. But I can definitively state that, no it isn't something that gets rebuilt every so often. However, if you run ktrace on a simple program like ls: ktrace ls then do a kdump | less, you will see that after finding ls, /libexec/ld-elf.so.1 is the first thing accessed. So, when things start working again, /libexec/ld-elf.so.1 is magically fixed, which just makes no sense. I assume there are no other messages obvious errors in /var/log/messages? One final thought is that it could be the disk. You could try installing smartmontools and see if the disk thinks it is OK -- though of course it could be the controller. But in such a case I might expect other errors. >I'd think if it was a memory issue, it'd be something other than >the same "Shared object..." thing each time. One time it'd be a bus error, >another time a "this isn't executable", etc.... > > The classic bad memory symptoms are periodic reboots, and random segmentation faults. The latter is particular to bad memory, I would say. The fomer can have other causes. It's the intermittent nature of the fault that really makes me think hardware. Am I right in remembering that you upgraded to 5.4 and still had the same problems? --Alex From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jul 8 00:18:56 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4B0E816A41C for ; Fri, 8 Jul 2005 00:18:56 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from xfb52@dial.pipex.com) Received: from smtp-out3.blueyonder.co.uk (smtp-out3.blueyonder.co.uk [195.188.213.6]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CA45943D49 for ; Fri, 8 Jul 2005 00:18:55 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from xfb52@dial.pipex.com) Received: from [82.41.37.55] ([82.41.37.55]) by smtp-out3.blueyonder.co.uk with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.6713); Fri, 8 Jul 2005 01:19:38 +0100 Message-ID: <42CDC66E.2040608@dial.pipex.com> Date: Fri, 08 Jul 2005 01:18:54 +0100 From: Alex Zbyslaw User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-GB; rv:1.7.8) Gecko/20050530 X-Accept-Language: en, en-us, pl MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Shark Wang References: <40756.193.138.107.178.1120752253.squirrel@193.138.107.178> <1e22f35905070716565c6c653@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <1e22f35905070716565c6c653@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-OriginalArrivalTime: 08 Jul 2005 00:19:38.0413 (UTC) FILETIME=[BA2F0DD0:01C58352] Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Did we must put the mounted partition '/' and '/boot' in the same slice ? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 08 Jul 2005 00:18:56 -0000 Shark Wang wrote: >as I had read some partitions material about legacy Unix, I try to >separate '/boot' from '/' for my large space on '/' . > >another question come up : Is ad0s1d the first blocks of the disk which >based on partitions layout that my gave? > > > No, it isn't. ad0s1a would be the first blocks after the MBR. Really, FreeBSD does not need or expect /boot to be separate so would not have put it at the front of the disk. The only system I know which does that is Linux. Out of curiosity, which "legacy Unix"? --Alex From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jul 8 00:42:43 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: FreeBSD-Questions@FreeBSD.ORG Delivered-To: FreeBSD-Questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7E70716A41C for ; Fri, 8 Jul 2005 00:42:43 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from slas7713@yahoo.com) Received: from web33604.mail.mud.yahoo.com (web33604.mail.mud.yahoo.com [68.142.199.193]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 1DE5943D46 for ; Fri, 8 Jul 2005 00:42:43 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from slas7713@yahoo.com) Received: (qmail 68307 invoked by uid 60001); 8 Jul 2005 00:42:42 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=kTbV8VT/2wIpk0TrUU1p3lpXV24cJkdgHKRmnB9spjUdtoKB4iG2y6g1McO3XdB3xVGiGtszZi4Vinl6Pt41+jX+Mk+Ol2Xd1Lxo4EO/zlv/SfjC6wuvCdrXEK0v7LY0wrArR2lZ60q6THlyqe/L7ARkEj5Mas30rI9fuEQcnoc= ; Message-ID: <20050708004242.68305.qmail@web33604.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Received: from [24.216.129.249] by web33604.mail.mud.yahoo.com via HTTP; Thu, 07 Jul 2005 17:42:42 PDT Date: Thu, 7 Jul 2005 17:42:42 -0700 (PDT) From: steve lasiter To: FreeBSD-Questions@FreeBSD.ORG MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Cc: Subject: DarwinStreamingServer problem X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 08 Jul 2005 00:42:43 -0000 This is my second post and I wanted to say the replies to my first post were very very helpful, thank you all for what you are doing. I'm on release 5.4 and I'm attempting to install the DarwinStreaming Server from the ports. I updated my ports first. I then went to the /net/DarwinStreamingServer port and upon my "make clean install" command I get the following: "Please get DSS-v5_0_3_2.zip from http://developer.apple.com/darwin/project/streaming/ And you must accept the APSL. Then, put in /usr/ports/distfiles/DDS-v5_0_3_2.zip" Of course I went to the location and could not find any reference to this zip file. I've done an exaustive search on Google, the BSD site, and the Apple site on "DDS-v5_0_3_2.zip" and got no hits. I then thought I might do a manual and downloaded the recent DarwinStreamingSrvr5.5-Source from the website. I got it to compile successfuly with the ./Buildit command but now the Install script will not work and it appears that if I modified it somewhere I could get it to work but I'm not that advanced and could not find any good examples of the modified script on the web. I appreciate any help you guys can give me on this one. Dean Lasiter ____________________________________________________ Sell on Yahoo! Auctions – no fees. Bid on great items. http://auctions.yahoo.com/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jul 8 00:53:57 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 07E5616A41C for ; Fri, 8 Jul 2005 00:53:57 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from hornetmadness@gmail.com) Received: from rproxy.gmail.com (rproxy.gmail.com [64.233.170.195]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 955C243D45 for ; Fri, 8 Jul 2005 00:53:56 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from hornetmadness@gmail.com) Received: by rproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 40so86867rnz for ; Thu, 07 Jul 2005 17:53:56 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=fmJ9MwwtlvNgsdQbrwc/MehhWebXSxcliKeOTgt+/vZ+JKVGf8CYr2scesz44nP3K4ESZZ2N8syi/rcgQIIsRM1SNsfBwY168u6yBGTSEkL3so0YvT7wPsSYqnO3qWQ67HdFiDdTnRlf4gm8DiUx0lZUKFPghjLxjWKoKn/iUHI= Received: by 10.38.6.14 with SMTP id 14mr242115rnf; Thu, 07 Jul 2005 17:53:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.38.8.44 with HTTP; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 17:53:55 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Thu, 7 Jul 2005 20:53:55 -0400 From: Hornet To: fbsd_user@a1poweruser.com In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline References: Cc: "freebsd-questions@FreeBSD. ORG" Subject: Re: PF firewall log problems X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Hornet List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 08 Jul 2005 00:53:57 -0000 On 7/7/05, fbsd_user wrote: > How can I change the default wait time for PF buffer writes to the log fi= le? > The log records are being held in the buffers for a long time before bein= g > written out. > I want to change this to a shorter time. How are you viewing the data? Realtime tcpdump tcpdump -n -e -ttt -i pflog0 or Viewing pflog tcpdump -n -e -ttt -r /var/log/pflog Anything written to the tty is going to be a bit slower, of course if you can "jack into your brain" all would be solved. >=20 >=20 > Are there any tools or ports for use on the PF log file to create better > standardized reports? I think there is one called hatchet. Of course you can't beat good old fashion grep,awk, and maybe sed >=20 > Where can I find a description of the PF log record fields? http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/man.cgi?query=3Dpflog&sektion=3D4 >=20 > Thanks > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.o= rg" >=20 Erik From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jul 8 01:09:31 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4651216A41C for ; Fri, 8 Jul 2005 01:09:31 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from root@sezouli.com) Received: from mout.perfora.net (mout.perfora.net [217.160.230.40]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EDA8843D45 for ; Fri, 8 Jul 2005 01:09:30 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from root@sezouli.com) Received: from n112s103.bbr1.shentel.net [204.111.112.103] (helo=tabbott) by mrelay.perfora.net with ESMTP (Nemesis), id 0MKyxe-1DqhMf2N67-00089U; Thu, 07 Jul 2005 21:09:13 -0400 From: "Tim Abbott" To: Date: Thu, 7 Jul 2005 21:25:57 -0400 Message-ID: <000101c5835b$ff498cc0$0300a8c0@shentel> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.6626 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1441 In-Reply-To: <20050707235724.M65580@enabled.com> Importance: Normal X-Provags-ID: perfora.net abuse@perfora.net login:1e93b7c9ca51121301bc17690cb2f63a Subject: RE: speedy-cgi-perl mail list or forum X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 08 Jul 2005 01:09:31 -0000 Have you tried http://www.codingforums.com/forumdisplay.php?f=3D5 ? Tim -----Original Message----- From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org [mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org] On Behalf Of Noah Sent: Thursday, July 07, 2005 7:58 PM To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: speedy-cgi-perl mail list or forum Somebody please direct me to a speedy-cgi-perl support mail list and/or support forum? thanks in advance, Noah _______________________________________________ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to = "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jul 8 01:16:02 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CB10F16A41C for ; Fri, 8 Jul 2005 01:16:02 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from fbsd_user@a1poweruser.com) Received: from mta13.adelphia.net (mta13.adelphia.net [68.168.78.44]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4062043D46 for ; Fri, 8 Jul 2005 01:16:02 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from fbsd_user@a1poweruser.com) Received: from barbish ([69.172.31.81]) by mta13.adelphia.net (InterMail vM.6.01.04.01 201-2131-118-101-20041129) with SMTP id <20050708011600.MRRR14360.mta13.adelphia.net@barbish>; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 21:16:00 -0400 From: "fbsd_user" To: "Hornet" Date: Thu, 7 Jul 2005 21:16:00 -0400 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.6604 (9.0.2911.0) In-Reply-To: X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1409 Importance: Normal Cc: "freebsd-questions@FreeBSD. ORG" Subject: RE: PF firewall log problems X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: fbsd_user@a1poweruser.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 08 Jul 2005 01:16:02 -0000 I am viewing pf log this way tcpdump -n -e -ttt -r /var/log/pflog Your reference to pflog man page is useless. Been there already. That gives some field names but not what is in them One of the pf mane pages says there is way to shorten buffer write cycle time. How do tell PF in rc.conf these over ride options?? -----Original Message----- From: Hornet [mailto:hornetmadness@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, July 07, 2005 8:54 PM To: fbsd_user@a1poweruser.com Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD. ORG Subject: Re: PF firewall log problems On 7/7/05, fbsd_user wrote: > How can I change the default wait time for PF buffer writes to the log file? > The log records are being held in the buffers for a long time before being > written out. > I want to change this to a shorter time. How are you viewing the data? Realtime tcpdump tcpdump -n -e -ttt -i pflog0 or Viewing pflog tcpdump -n -e -ttt -r /var/log/pflog Anything written to the tty is going to be a bit slower, of course if you can "jack into your brain" all would be solved. > > > Are there any tools or ports for use on the PF log file to create better > standardized reports? I think there is one called hatchet. Of course you can't beat good old fashion grep,awk, and maybe sed > > Where can I find a description of the PF log record fields? http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/man.cgi?query=pflog&sektion=4 > > Thanks > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > Erik From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jul 8 01:22:18 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5412A16A41C for ; Fri, 8 Jul 2005 01:22:18 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from sharkwang@gmail.com) Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.200]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EBC8743D48 for ; Fri, 8 Jul 2005 01:22:17 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from sharkwang@gmail.com) Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 40so456102wri for ; Thu, 07 Jul 2005 18:22:17 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=Pn3cou/nJ9YXd3qOUewfee2TjEm8VS5GCP+V6TlIqriz7N6yk4Pcxn3iYsFUs2fsW8Y6ZfCrMo6MUEqQ85Nk8PYXRsLI4d7w6hpvN/6A5yOQokI5tPd3Ccp95B8jtPhPsuRs4M+0PbXuwdo9z6xg0+IloHJPkIyHlfNkJa743EY= Received: by 10.54.17.66 with SMTP id 66mr3182650wrq; Thu, 07 Jul 2005 18:16:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.19.45 with HTTP; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 18:16:00 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <1e22f359050707181671aed9d7@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 8 Jul 2005 09:16:00 +0800 From: Shark Wang To: Alex Zbyslaw In-Reply-To: <42CDC66E.2040608@dial.pipex.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline References: <40756.193.138.107.178.1120752253.squirrel@193.138.107.178> <1e22f35905070716565c6c653@mail.gmail.com> <42CDC66E.2040608@dial.pipex.com> Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Did we must put the mounted partition '/' and '/boot' in the same slice ? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Shark Wang List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 08 Jul 2005 01:22:18 -0000 Thanks a lot, I had got the key points ! -Shark On 7/8/05, Alex Zbyslaw wrote: > Shark Wang wrote: >=20 > >as I had read some partitions material about legacy Unix, I try to > >separate '/boot' from '/' for my large space on '/' . > > > >another question come up : Is ad0s1d the first blocks of the disk which > >based on partitions layout that my gave? > > > > > > > No, it isn't. ad0s1a would be the first blocks after the MBR. Really, > FreeBSD does not need or expect /boot to be separate so would not have > put it at the front of the disk. The only system I know which does that > is Linux. Out of curiosity, which "legacy Unix"? >=20 > --Alex >=20 >=20 --=20 I'm just a bitMaker ! From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jul 8 01:39:48 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9442F16A41C for ; Fri, 8 Jul 2005 01:39:48 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from mike@sentex.net) Received: from smarthost2.sentex.ca (smarthost2.sentex.ca [205.211.164.50]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 37A0C43D45 for ; Fri, 8 Jul 2005 01:39:48 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from mike@sentex.net) Received: from BLUELAPIS.sentex.ca (cage.simianscience.com [64.7.134.1]) by smarthost2.sentex.ca (8.13.3/8.13.3) with SMTP id j681dkR7060043; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 21:39:47 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from mike@sentex.net) From: Mike Tancsa To: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?G=E9czi_Szabolcs?= Date: Thu, 07 Jul 2005 21:40:33 -0400 Message-ID: References: <42CD176F.4050002@goodwill.hu> In-Reply-To: <42CD176F.4050002@goodwill.hu> X-Mailer: Forte Agent 1.93/32.576 English (American) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.51 on 205.211.164.50 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: ipsec with dynamic ip X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 08 Jul 2005 01:39:48 -0000 On Thu, 07 Jul 2005 13:52:15 +0200, in sentex.lists.freebsd.questions you wrote: >hi there, > >is there anyway (howto) to establish freebsd ipsec with dynamic ip? >i got an a fix ip addressed freebsd server and would like t connect with= =20 >another freebsd but with dynamic address. Using racoon, have a look at the=20 generate_policy on; option in racoon.conf ---Mike -------------------------------------------------------- Mike Tancsa, Sentex communications http://www.sentex.net Providing Internet Access since 1994 mike@sentex.net, (http://www.tancsa.com) From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jul 8 01:42:07 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8727416A41C for ; Fri, 8 Jul 2005 01:42:07 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from missive@hotmail.com) Received: from hotmail.com (bay7-f21.bay7.hotmail.com [64.4.11.46]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4D3DC43D48 for ; Fri, 8 Jul 2005 01:42:07 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from missive@hotmail.com) Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 18:42:07 -0700 Message-ID: Received: from 208.186.59.238 by by7fd.bay7.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Fri, 08 Jul 2005 01:42:06 GMT X-Originating-IP: [208.186.59.238] X-Originating-Email: [missive@hotmail.com] X-Sender: missive@hotmail.com From: "Lee Harr" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Fri, 08 Jul 2005 06:12:06 +0430 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed X-OriginalArrivalTime: 08 Jul 2005 01:42:07.0161 (UTC) FILETIME=[3FDE1290:01C5835E] Subject: 3c589 pcmcia not active during install X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 08 Jul 2005 01:42:07 -0000 I am trying to install 5.4 on a Compaq LTE 5100 laptop. Yesterday, I installed 4.11 on this system, and when the installer came up, there was a dialog that said the ethernet card was detected. It worked fine for the install. 5.4 is not detecting the card. This is an Etherlink III 10Base card with a 3C589C. I found another message by googling which said I might need to use the "Options" menu to rescan the hardware, but nothing I tried there makes any difference. Any other pointers? _________________________________________________________________ FREE pop-up blocking with the new MSN Toolbar - get it now! http://toolbar.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200415ave/direct/01/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jul 8 02:04:21 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A9B4B16A41C for ; Fri, 8 Jul 2005 02:04:21 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from bob@fxp.org) Received: from chaos.fxp.org (chaos.fxp.org [216.155.111.15]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5EC4A43D4C for ; Fri, 8 Jul 2005 02:04:21 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from bob@fxp.org) Received: from localhost (localhost.fxp.org [127.0.0.1]) by chaos.fxp.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 150E02845B for ; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 22:04:20 -0400 (EDT) Received: from chaos.fxp.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (chaos.fxp.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 81979-01 for ; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 22:04:15 -0400 (EDT) Received: by chaos.fxp.org (Postfix, from userid 1103) id B9B9B28440; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 22:04:15 -0400 (EDT) Date: Thu, 7 Jul 2005 22:04:15 -0400 From: Bob Bomar To: questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20050708020415.GA3634@chaos.fxp.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="huq684BweRXVnRxX" Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.9i X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at fxp.org Cc: Subject: pam_start error X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Bob Bomar List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 08 Jul 2005 02:04:21 -0000 --huq684BweRXVnRxX Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I am creating a custom image from 5.4, and when I test the enviroment in chroot, I am getting an error when using passwd: # passwd=20 Changing local password for root passwd: pam_start(): system error I have: # ls /lib libalias.so.4 libdevstat.so.4 libmd.so.2 libatm.so.2 libedit.so.4 libncurses.so.5 libbegemot.so.1 libgeom.so.2 libreadline.so.5 libbsdxml.so.1 libgpib.so.0 libsbuf.so.2 libbsnmp.so.2 libipsec.so.1 libufs.so.2 libc.so.5 libipx.so.2 libutil.so.4 libcam.so.2 libkiconv.so.1 libz.so.2 libcrypt.so.2 libkvm.so.2 libcrypto.so.3 libm.so.3 # ls /usr/lib aout libgnuregex.so libpcap.so libasn1.so libgnuregex.so.2 libroken.so libasn1.so.5 libipsec.so librpcsvc.so libc.so libipsec.so.1 librpcsvc.so.2 libc.so.4 libipx.so libssh.so libc_r.so libipx.so.2 libssh.so.2 libc_r.so.4 libkadm.so libssl.so libcom_err.so libkadm.so.3 libssl.so.3 libcom_err.so.2 libkrb.so libutil.so libcrypt.so libkrb5.so libwrap.so libcrypt.so.2 libkvm.so libwrap.so.3 libcrypto.so libm.so libz.so libcrypto.so.3 libmd.so pam_deny.so libdevstat.so libmp.so pam_opie.so libdevstat.so.2 libncurses.so pam_opieaccess.so libdialog.so.4 libnetgraph.so pam_permit.so libedit.so libnetgraph.so.1 pam_radius.so libedit.so.3 libopie.so pam_ssh.so libfetch.so libpam.so pam_tacplus.so libfetch.so.3 libpam.so.2 pam_unix.so What am I missing? --=20 Bob Bomar bob@ibsd.us ----------------------------- FreeBSD: The Power to Serve http://www.freebsd.org --huq684BweRXVnRxX Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.1 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFCzd8f9Jm/aTrtdKoRAg8IAJ4iNzLmB6FCRU2Y2sFfIfKSpGty5QCbB+bV jqlNqemOOwyvcJ+BHt+N4LE= =gvHp -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --huq684BweRXVnRxX-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jul 8 03:20:55 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AF33116A41C for ; Fri, 8 Jul 2005 03:20:55 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from drew@mykitchentable.net) Received: from relay03.roc.ny.frontiernet.net (relay03.roc.ny.frontiernet.net [66.133.182.166]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4ED5743D48 for ; Fri, 8 Jul 2005 03:20:54 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from drew@mykitchentable.net) Received: from filter03.roc.ny.frontiernet.net (filter03.roc.ny.frontiernet.net [66.133.183.70]) by relay03.roc.ny.frontiernet.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2CD77358D59 for ; Fri, 8 Jul 2005 03:20:54 +0000 (UTC) Received: from relay03.roc.ny.frontiernet.net ([66.133.182.166]) by filter03.roc.ny.frontiernet.net (filter03.roc.ny.frontiernet.net [66.133.183.70]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 00688-03-7 for ; Fri, 8 Jul 2005 03:20:54 +0000 (UTC) Received: from blacklamb.mykitchentable.net (67-137-46-191.dsl2.elk.ca.frontiernet.net [67.137.46.191]) by relay03.roc.ny.frontiernet.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BD496358716 for ; Fri, 8 Jul 2005 03:20:52 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [192.168.1.3] (bigdaddy.mykitchentable.net [192.168.1.3]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by blacklamb.mykitchentable.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C96903BF3D1 for ; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 20:20:51 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <42CDF112.5070209@mykitchentable.net> Date: Thu, 07 Jul 2005 20:20:50 -0700 From: Drew Tomlinson User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (Windows/20041206) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: FreeBSD Questions Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new-20040701 (2.0) at filter03.roc.ny.frontiernet.net Subject: tar Syntax Help X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 08 Jul 2005 03:20:55 -0000 I'm trying to copy an entire file system while using an exclude file to avoid copying things such as /dev, /proc, etc. I've read the man page and found the -X or --exclude-from tar option. I've create a file called /exclude.list. It contains lines such as: /exclude.list /dev /proc But I can't figure out how to form the correct command line. I basically want to do this: tar -cvf - --exclude-from /exclude.list -C / . | tar xpf - -C . I've search the web and found examples that look similar to the above but this does not work for me. tar attempts to copy /dev and I get all the associated errors. I've tried other placements of either "-X", "X", and "--exclude from" on the command line various things happen from it just being ignored to tar thinking I want to create and archive named "-X", etc., to tar trying to add a file named "-X", etc. to the current archive. I'm at a loss. I'm using 4.11 and trying to make a good backup before upgrading to 5.4. Can anyone tell me the secret incantation to make this work? Thanks, Drew -- Visit The Alchemist's Warehouse Magic Tricks, DVDs, Videos, Books, & More! http://www.alchemistswarehouse.com From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jul 8 03:38:07 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8A3EF16A41C for ; Fri, 8 Jul 2005 03:38:07 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from matt@gsicomp.on.ca) Received: from skippyii.compar.com (ftp.compar.com [216.208.38.130]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 26FAE43D45 for ; Fri, 8 Jul 2005 03:38:02 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from matt@gsicomp.on.ca) Received: from hermes (CPE00062566c7bb-CM000039c69a66.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com [70.28.254.189]) by skippyii.compar.com (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id j683nd88073193; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 23:49:47 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from matt@gsicomp.on.ca) Message-ID: <004701c5836e$7e3aa160$1200a8c0@gsicomp.on.ca> From: "Matt Emmerton" To: "Drew Tomlinson" , "FreeBSD Questions" References: <42CDF112.5070209@mykitchentable.net> Date: Thu, 7 Jul 2005 23:38:09 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1437 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1441 Cc: Subject: Re: tar Syntax Help X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 08 Jul 2005 03:38:07 -0000 > I'm trying to copy an entire file system while using an exclude file to > avoid copying things such as /dev, /proc, etc. I've read the man page > and found the -X or --exclude-from tar option. I've create a file > called /exclude.list. It contains lines such as: > > /exclude.list > /dev > /proc > > But I can't figure out how to form the correct command line. I > basically want to do this: > > tar -cvf - --exclude-from /exclude.list -C / . | tar xpf - -C . > > I've search the web and found examples that look similar to the above > but this does not work for me. tar attempts to copy /dev and I get all > the associated errors. I've tried other placements of either "-X", "X", > and "--exclude from" on the command line various things happen from it > just being ignored to tar thinking I want to create and archive named > "-X", etc., to tar trying to add a file named "-X", etc. to the current > archive. I'm at a loss. > > I'm using 4.11 and trying to make a good backup before upgrading to > 5.4. Can anyone tell me the secret incantation to make this work? -X only works with specific files, not entire directories. You will need to list every file in /dev or /proc that you want to exclude, which is somewhat painful. The backup strategy that I've used on production systems is to back up each directory in a separate tar file. Not only does this work quicker (since you can fire off multiple tar sessions in parallel), but you can avoid "special" directories like /dev and /proc, temporary mount points such as /cdrom and /mnt, and other directories that don't need to backed up, such as /tmp. It's also quite handy when you've got large volumes of data (such as in /home) and the complete system image won't fit on a single tape. The general notion of my script is the following: #!/bin/sh for i in bin boot etc home modules root sbin usr var do tar cvzf /backups/$i.`date +%Y%m%d`.tar.gz $i & done wait echo "Backups completed!" -- Matt Emmerton From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jul 8 04:01:20 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3339616A41C for ; Fri, 8 Jul 2005 04:01:20 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from drew@mykitchentable.net) Received: from relay01.roc.ny.frontiernet.net (relay01.roc.ny.frontiernet.net [66.133.182.164]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AF8EF43D46 for ; Fri, 8 Jul 2005 04:01:17 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from drew@mykitchentable.net) Received: from filter01.roc.ny.frontiernet.net (filter01.roc.ny.frontiernet.net [66.133.183.68]) by relay01.roc.ny.frontiernet.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 93B0E364848; Fri, 8 Jul 2005 04:01:16 +0000 (UTC) Received: from relay01.roc.ny.frontiernet.net ([66.133.182.164]) by filter01.roc.ny.frontiernet.net (filter01.roc.ny.frontiernet.net [66.133.183.68]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 13791-01-97; Fri, 8 Jul 2005 04:01:16 +0000 (UTC) Received: from blacklamb.mykitchentable.net (67-137-46-191.dsl2.elk.ca.frontiernet.net [67.137.46.191]) by relay01.roc.ny.frontiernet.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 83E3B3641F0; Fri, 8 Jul 2005 04:01:14 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [192.168.1.3] (bigdaddy.mykitchentable.net [192.168.1.3]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by blacklamb.mykitchentable.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9258C3BF3BA; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 21:01:13 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <42CDFA88.5000803@mykitchentable.net> Date: Thu, 07 Jul 2005 21:01:12 -0700 From: Drew Tomlinson User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (Windows/20041206) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Matt Emmerton References: <42CDF112.5070209@mykitchentable.net> <004701c5836e$7e3aa160$1200a8c0@gsicomp.on.ca> In-Reply-To: <004701c5836e$7e3aa160$1200a8c0@gsicomp.on.ca> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new-20040701 (2.0) at filter01.roc.ny.frontiernet.net Cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: tar Syntax Help X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 08 Jul 2005 04:01:20 -0000 On 7/7/2005 8:38 PM Matt Emmerton wrote: > > >>I'm trying to copy an entire file system while using an exclude file to >>avoid copying things such as /dev, /proc, etc. I've read the man page >>and found the -X or --exclude-from tar option. I've create a file >>called /exclude.list. It contains lines such as: >> >>/exclude.list >>/dev >>/proc >> >>But I can't figure out how to form the correct command line. I >>basically want to do this: >> >>tar -cvf - --exclude-from /exclude.list -C / . | tar xpf - -C . >> >>I've search the web and found examples that look similar to the above >>but this does not work for me. tar attempts to copy /dev and I get all >>the associated errors. I've tried other placements of either "-X", "X", >>and "--exclude from" on the command line various things happen from it >>just being ignored to tar thinking I want to create and archive named >>"-X", etc., to tar trying to add a file named "-X", etc. to the current >>archive. I'm at a loss. >> >>I'm using 4.11 and trying to make a good backup before upgrading to >>5.4. Can anyone tell me the secret incantation to make this work? >> >> > >-X only works with specific files, not entire directories. You will need to >list every file in /dev or /proc that you want to exclude, which is somewhat >painful. > >The backup strategy that I've used on production systems is to back up each >directory in a separate tar file. Not only does this work quicker (since >you can fire off multiple tar sessions in parallel), but you can avoid >"special" directories like /dev and /proc, temporary mount points such as >/cdrom and /mnt, and other directories that don't need to backed up, such as >/tmp. It's also quite handy when you've got large volumes of data (such as >in /home) and the complete system image won't fit on a single tape. > >The general notion of my script is the following: > >#!/bin/sh >for i in bin boot etc home modules root sbin usr var >do > tar cvzf /backups/$i.`date +%Y%m%d`.tar.gz $i & >done >wait >echo "Backups completed!" > Thanks for your reply. I can do it this way and will for the sake of speed. However this post suggests that one can use wildcards. http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-questions/2004-July/052207.html Have you ever tried that? I did but was not successful. Thanks, Drew -- Visit The Alchemist's Warehouse Magic Tricks, DVDs, Videos, Books, & More! http://www.alchemistswarehouse.com From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jul 8 04:33:24 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1972716A41C for ; Fri, 8 Jul 2005 04:33:24 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from matt@gsicomp.on.ca) Received: from skippyii.compar.com (mail2.compar.com [216.208.38.130]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DC1D643D48 for ; Fri, 8 Jul 2005 04:33:21 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from matt@gsicomp.on.ca) Received: from hermes (CPE00062566c7bb-CM000039c69a66.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com [70.28.254.189]) by skippyii.compar.com (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id j684jBYs079129; Fri, 8 Jul 2005 00:45:13 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from matt@gsicomp.on.ca) Message-ID: <001101c58376$3ada93f0$1200a8c0@gsicomp.on.ca> From: "Matt Emmerton" To: "Drew Tomlinson" References: <42CDF112.5070209@mykitchentable.net> <004701c5836e$7e3aa160$1200a8c0@gsicomp.on.ca> <42CDFA88.5000803@mykitchentable.net> Date: Fri, 8 Jul 2005 00:33:41 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1437 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1441 Cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: tar Syntax Help X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 08 Jul 2005 04:33:24 -0000 > On 7/7/2005 8:38 PM Matt Emmerton wrote: > > > >>I'm trying to copy an entire file system while using an exclude file to > >>avoid copying things such as /dev, /proc, etc. I've read the man page > >>and found the -X or --exclude-from tar option. I've create a file > >>called /exclude.list. It contains lines such as: > >> > >>/exclude.list > >>/dev > >>/proc > >> > >>But I can't figure out how to form the correct command line. I > >>basically want to do this: > >> > >>tar -cvf - --exclude-from /exclude.list -C / . | tar xpf - -C . > >> > >>I've search the web and found examples that look similar to the above > >>but this does not work for me. tar attempts to copy /dev and I get all > >>the associated errors. I've tried other placements of either "-X", "X", > >>and "--exclude from" on the command line various things happen from it > >>just being ignored to tar thinking I want to create and archive named > >>"-X", etc., to tar trying to add a file named "-X", etc. to the current > >>archive. I'm at a loss. > >> > >>I'm using 4.11 and trying to make a good backup before upgrading to > >>5.4. Can anyone tell me the secret incantation to make this work? > >> > >> > > > >-X only works with specific files, not entire directories. You will need to > >list every file in /dev or /proc that you want to exclude, which is somewhat > >painful. > > > >The backup strategy that I've used on production systems is to back up each > >directory in a separate tar file. Not only does this work quicker (since > >you can fire off multiple tar sessions in parallel), but you can avoid > >"special" directories like /dev and /proc, temporary mount points such as > >/cdrom and /mnt, and other directories that don't need to backed up, such as > >/tmp. It's also quite handy when you've got large volumes of data (such as > >in /home) and the complete system image won't fit on a single tape. > > > >The general notion of my script is the following: > > > >#!/bin/sh > >for i in bin boot etc home modules root sbin usr var > >do > > tar cvzf /backups/$i.`date +%Y%m%d`.tar.gz $i & > >done > >wait > >echo "Backups completed!" > > > Thanks for your reply. I can do it this way and will for the sake of > speed. However this post suggests that one can use wildcards. > > http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-questions/2004-July/052207.html > > Have you ever tried that? I did but was not successful. I just tried this out (on 5.4-REL) and the wildcards appear to work fine. If you specify wildcards on the command line (ie, with --exclude or -X), you must quote them to prevent premature expansion. -- Matt From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jul 8 05:08:18 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 97B0916A41C for ; Fri, 8 Jul 2005 05:08:18 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from cdelsey@qwest.net) Received: from mpls-qmqp-04.inet.qwest.net (mpls-qmqp-04.inet.qwest.net [63.231.195.115]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 32BE443D45 for ; Fri, 8 Jul 2005 05:08:18 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from cdelsey@qwest.net) Received: (qmail 53028 invoked by uid 0); 8 Jul 2005 05:07:28 -0000 Received: from unknown (63.231.195.4) by mpls-qmqp-04.inet.qwest.net with QMQP; 8 Jul 2005 05:07:28 -0000 Received: from vdsl-130-13-179-246.phnx.qwest.net (HELO ?192.168.2.2?) (130.13.179.246) by mpls-pop-04.inet.qwest.net with SMTP; 8 Jul 2005 05:08:11 -0000 Received: by localhost.local (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 62D634432; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 22:08:10 -0700 (MST) Date: Thu, 7 Jul 2005 22:08:10 -0700 Message-ID: <20050708050810.GA9585@localhost.local> From: "Carl Delsey" To: "FreeBSD Questions" Mail-Followup-To: FreeBSD Questions References: <42CDF112.5070209@mykitchentable.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <42CDF112.5070209@mykitchentable.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Subject: Re: tar Syntax Help X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 08 Jul 2005 05:08:18 -0000 Try leaving off the leading / from each line in your exclude list. I think what is happening is that, by default, tar drops the leading / from each file it tars up so that when you untar, it extracts all files relative to the current directory. I think because of this, when you specify absolute paths in your exclude file, tar fails to match them. Alternatively, if you want to keep the absolute paths, try tar with the -P option. Your exclude list may work as is in that case. I haven't ever tried that myself though. Just be careful when you untar if you do use that switch. Carl On Thu, Jul 07, 2005 at 08:20:50PM -0700, Drew Tomlinson wrote: > I'm trying to copy an entire file system while using an exclude file to > avoid copying things such as /dev, /proc, etc. I've read the man page > and found the -X or --exclude-from tar option. I've create a file > called /exclude.list. It contains lines such as: > > /exclude.list > /dev > /proc > > But I can't figure out how to form the correct command line. I > basically want to do this: > > tar -cvf - --exclude-from /exclude.list -C / . | tar xpf - -C . > > I've search the web and found examples that look similar to the above > but this does not work for me. tar attempts to copy /dev and I get all > the associated errors. I've tried other placements of either "-X", "X", > and "--exclude from" on the command line various things happen from it > just being ignored to tar thinking I want to create and archive named > "-X", etc., to tar trying to add a file named "-X", etc. to the current > archive. I'm at a loss. > > I'm using 4.11 and trying to make a good backup before upgrading to > 5.4. Can anyone tell me the secret incantation to make this work? > > Thanks, > > Drew > > -- > Visit The Alchemist's Warehouse > Magic Tricks, DVDs, Videos, Books, & More! > > http://www.alchemistswarehouse.com > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jul 8 06:13:53 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0B89716A41C for ; Fri, 8 Jul 2005 06:13:53 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from umeglic@gmail.com) Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.197]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A056F43D5E for ; Fri, 8 Jul 2005 06:13:52 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from umeglic@gmail.com) Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id k1so171638nzf for ; Thu, 07 Jul 2005 23:13:52 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; b=jYmHJabYCh6Mry1ZHhYkhvZjnEycqLc+dsZpHmBi3OVnnXu94P19PpP2sq30LIS/HwO67MczN8jtHpPe8quvkj2GuQjkQBA6PYdeckfQSdBeSE7mIP1a0175YfD8k3iP6exrCTVxIpi8j2kT4I9dFBf7KkfrUGHQe5D1GFFuclk= Received: by 10.36.50.18 with SMTP id x18mr511411nzx; Thu, 07 Jul 2005 23:07:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.115.17 with HTTP; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 23:07:34 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <515659fd0507072307f1f7de2@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 8 Jul 2005 08:07:34 +0200 From: Nekdo Nekje To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline Subject: FreeBSD 5.4 release firewall/router and PF not loading rule sets X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Nekdo Nekje List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 08 Jul 2005 06:13:53 -0000 Hello list... I have a few questions I would like to ask. Some may sound stupid, but please bear with me since I'm new to FreeBSD and networking for that matter... So, I'm trying to build this router/firewall thingy for our local network. The box has 3 NIC's, one for the Internet and two for the local subnets. I have to build it so that the two subnets can not comunicate with each other. I would also like to implement NAT for the both subnets so that only the routers IP is visible on the net. The subnet hosts all have C-class adresses and not private network addresses. I would also like to disable any connections from the outside to the host and only allow the basic net services to be passed out on the Internet, like web, smtp, etc... The problem is I can not seem to get the firewall (PF) to work. The computers IP's are all seen from the internet, NAT is not working... if I type pfctl -s rules I only get two lines saying "ALTQ support not compiled in the kernel. Disabling ALTQ support." Do I need ALTQ support for what I'm trying to do. Any ideas on what should I check on my system? I read the man for pfctl but couldn't find the command for just checking the pf.conf file for syntax errors. I was using pf -f /etc/pf.conf for that, and it's not outputting any errors only the ALTQ thingy and the ssh session disconnects so than I have to reconnect. I have pf enabled in rc.conf and as far as I can tell it's loading fine and the pflogd is also running. It's just not working... guess I'm measing something or am just plain stupid... Maybe I didn't understend how this is supposed to be so here is my first attempt at PF rule set building... ;) Here is my pf.conf ---------------------------------------------------------- ext_if=3D"rl0" ped_if=3D"xl0" adm_if=3D"xl1" priv_nets=3D"{ 127.0.0.0/8, 192.168.0.0/16, 172.16.0.0/12, 10.0.0.0/8 }" porti=3D"{ 20 21 25 80 443 }" set loginterface $ext_if scrub in all nat on $ext_if from $ped_if:network to any -> ($ext_if) nat on $ext_if from $adm_if:network to any -> ($ext_if) block all pass quick on lo0 all antispoof quick for $ped_if inet antispoof quick for $adm_if inet block drop in quick on $ext_if from $priv_nets to any block drop out quick on $ext_if from any to $priv_nets block drop in quick on $ped_if from $ped_if:network to $adm_if block drop in quick on $adm_if from $adm_if:network to $ped_if pass in on $ped_if proto {tcp, udp } from $ped_if:network to $ext_if port $porti keep state pass out on $ped_if proto {tcp, udp } from $ped_if:network to $ext_if port $porti keep state pass in on $adm_if proto {tcp, udp } from $adm_if:network to $ext_if port $porti keep state pass out on $adm_if proto {tcp, udp} from $adm_if:network to $ext_if port $porti keep state pass in on $ext_if proto {tcp, udp} from any port { 22 } keep state pass out on $ext_if proto tcp all modulate state flags S/SA pass out on $ext_if proto { udp, icmp } all keep state ---------------------------------------------------------------------------= ------ I you have any ideas please help. Thanks for your time and answers... best regards, Uros From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jul 8 08:16:50 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9F31F16A41C for ; Fri, 8 Jul 2005 08:16:50 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from thai.nguyen@rvc.renesas.com) Received: from mail03.idc.renesas.com (mail.renesas.com [202.234.163.13]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1D19943D53 for ; Fri, 8 Jul 2005 08:16:48 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from thai.nguyen@rvc.renesas.com) Received: (from root@localhost) by guardian03.idc.renesas.com with id j688Gkjr018754 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Fri, 8 Jul 2005 17:16:46 +0900 (JST) Received: from unknown [172.20.8.71] by guardian03.idc.renesas.com with SMTP id TAA18753 ; Fri, 8 Jul 2005 17:16:45 +0900 MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Fri, 8 Jul 2005 15:16:39 +0700 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message Message-ID: X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5.7226.0 X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: dhcpd.conf problem Thread-Index: AcWDlV1ryOQevdgLTpq7HfsRB74I9g== From: "thai nguyen" To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: dhcpd.conf problem X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 08 Jul 2005 08:16:50 -0000 Hi,=20 We configured a dhcpd.conf as following. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ----------------------------------------- ddns-update-style interim; ignore client-updates; =20 option space PXE; option PXE.mtftp-ip code 1 =3D ip-address; option PXE.mtftp-cport code 2 =3D unsigned integer 16; option PXE.mtftp-sport code 3 =3D unsigned integer 16; option PXE.mtftp-tmout code 4 =3D unsigned integer 8; option PXE.mtftp-delay code 5 =3D unsigned integer 8; option PXE.discovery-control code 6 =3D unsigned integer 8; option PXE.discovery-mcast-addr code 7 =3D ip-address; =20 subnet 172.29.140.0 netmask 255.255.255.0 { option routers 172.29.140.1; option subnet-mask 255.255.255.0; option nis-domain "rvc.renesas.com"; option domain-name "rvc.renesas.com"; option domain-name-servers 172.29.138.20; =20 =20 host rvc-wstest { next-server 172.29.140.162; hardware ethernet 00:50:8b:fb:ea:5e; fixed-address 172.29.140.163; } host rvc-wstest1 { next-server 172.29.140.162; hardware ethernet 00:11:25:37:1B:CD; fixed-address 172.29.140.163; } host rvc-ws034 { next-server 172.29.140.162; hardware ethernet 00:11:25:4B:06:B0; fixed-address 172.29.140.163; } host rvc-wsIBM { next-server 172.29.141.10; hardware ethernet 00:11:25:4D:95:26; fixed-address 172.29.141.100; } } host rvc-wscompaq { next-server 172.29.141.10; hardware ethernet 00:02:A5:02:D3:48; fixed-address 172.29.141.154; } allow booting; allow bootp; class "pxeclients" { match if substring (option vendor-class-identifier, 0, 9) =3D "PXEClient"; next-server 172.29.141.10; filename "linux-install/pxelinux.0"; ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ----------------------------------------- The service dhcpd runs but the client is not received the ip add. So what is the problem? Could you pls reply me as soon as possible. Thank so much. =20 =20 Thai From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jul 8 09:47:26 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E070016A41C for ; Fri, 8 Jul 2005 09:47:25 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from glenn@antimatter.net) Received: from cobalt.antimatter.net (cobalt.antimatter.net [69.55.224.239]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A247C43D4C for ; Fri, 8 Jul 2005 09:47:25 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from glenn@antimatter.net) Received: from glenn-mobile.antimatter.net (cpe-66-27-86-22.san.res.rr.com [66.27.86.22]) (authenticated bits=0) by cobalt.antimatter.net (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id j689lNkc012620 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NO); Fri, 8 Jul 2005 02:47:24 -0700 Message-Id: <6.1.0.6.2.20050708023802.1c972a50@cobalt.antimatter.net> X-Sender: lists@cobalt.antimatter.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 6.1.0.6 Date: Fri, 08 Jul 2005 02:44:28 -0700 To: "thai nguyen" , From: Glenn Dawson In-Reply-To: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Cc: Subject: Re: dhcpd.conf problem X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 08 Jul 2005 09:47:26 -0000 At 01:16 AM 7/8/2005, thai nguyen wrote: >Hi, > >We configured a dhcpd.conf as following. > >------------------------------------------------------------------------ >----------------------------------------- > >ddns-update-style interim; > >ignore client-updates; > > > >option space PXE; > >option PXE.mtftp-ip code 1 = ip-address; > >option PXE.mtftp-cport code 2 = unsigned integer 16; > >option PXE.mtftp-sport code 3 = unsigned integer 16; > >option PXE.mtftp-tmout code 4 = unsigned integer 8; > >option PXE.mtftp-delay code 5 = unsigned integer 8; > >option PXE.discovery-control code 6 = unsigned integer 8; > >option PXE.discovery-mcast-addr code 7 = ip-address; > > > >subnet 172.29.140.0 netmask 255.255.255.0 { > > option routers 172.29.140.1; > > option subnet-mask 255.255.255.0; > > option nis-domain "rvc.renesas.com"; > > option domain-name "rvc.renesas.com"; > > option domain-name-servers 172.29.138.20; > > > > > > host rvc-wstest { > > next-server 172.29.140.162; > > hardware ethernet 00:50:8b:fb:ea:5e; > > fixed-address 172.29.140.163; > > } > > host rvc-wstest1 { > > next-server 172.29.140.162; > > hardware ethernet 00:11:25:37:1B:CD; > > fixed-address 172.29.140.163; > > } > > host rvc-ws034 { > > next-server 172.29.140.162; > > hardware ethernet 00:11:25:4B:06:B0; > > fixed-address 172.29.140.163; > > } > > host rvc-wsIBM { > > next-server 172.29.141.10; > > hardware ethernet 00:11:25:4D:95:26; > > fixed-address 172.29.141.100; > > } > > } > > host rvc-wscompaq { > > next-server 172.29.141.10; > > hardware ethernet 00:02:A5:02:D3:48; > > fixed-address 172.29.141.154; > >} > >allow booting; > >allow bootp; > >class "pxeclients" { > > match if substring (option vendor-class-identifier, 0, 9) = >"PXEClient"; > > next-server 172.29.141.10; > > filename "linux-install/pxelinux.0"; > >------------------------------------------------------------------------ >----------------------------------------- > >The service dhcpd runs but the client is not received the ip add. > >So what is the problem? Could you pls reply me as soon as possible. Unless part of the config file wasn't sent properly, it looks like you have one extra right brace just before "host rvc-wscompaq", and there's one missing after the section for pxeclients. -Glenn >Thank so much. > > > > > >Thai > >_______________________________________________ >freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list >http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions >To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jul 8 10:01:16 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9167B16A41C for ; Fri, 8 Jul 2005 10:01:16 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from lists@mediamill.co.za) Received: from smtp02.isdsl.net (smtp02.isdsl.net [196.26.208.200]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DE67143D45 for ; Fri, 8 Jul 2005 10:01:15 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from lists@mediamill.co.za) Received: from smtp02.isdsl.net (localhost.isdsl.net [127.0.0.1]) by smtp02.isdsl.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A94492FCC5 for ; Fri, 8 Jul 2005 12:01:00 +0200 (SAST) Received: from [192.168.10.150] (rndf-146-9-131.telkomadsl.co.za [165.146.9.131]) by smtp02.isdsl.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4AFDE2FCC2 for ; Fri, 8 Jul 2005 12:01:00 +0200 (SAST) Message-ID: <42CE4FD7.7010508@mediamill.co.za> Date: Fri, 08 Jul 2005 12:05:11 +0200 From: Gavin McDougall User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.2 (Windows/20050317) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: FreeBSD Questions Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-AV-Checked: ClamAV using ClamSMTP at smtp02.isdsl.net Subject: FreeBSD Training X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 08 Jul 2005 10:01:16 -0000 Hi there, Does anyone know of a company in Johannesburg, South Africa that provides FreeBSD training courses? There is a fortune of FreeBSD documentation and books available on the web and could probably learn all there is to know in that manner. However, my Boss is keen to throw some fundage into a commercial training course that will enhance my knowledge and skills in areas relevent to our business model. So is there anything out there that caters for FreeBSD training in South Africa? Thanks, Gavin From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jul 8 10:42:36 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0461D16A41C for ; Fri, 8 Jul 2005 10:42:36 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: from rosebud.otenet.gr (rosebud.otenet.gr [195.170.0.94]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 42C0443D45 for ; Fri, 8 Jul 2005 10:42:33 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: from beatrix.daedalusnetworks.priv (aris.bedc.ondsl.gr [62.103.39.226]) by rosebud.otenet.gr (8.13.4/8.13.4/Debian-1) with SMTP id j68AgV98024487; Fri, 8 Jul 2005 13:42:32 +0300 Received: from beatrix.daedalusnetworks.priv (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by beatrix.daedalusnetworks.priv (8.13.3+Sun/8.13.3) with ESMTP id j68AgVUg023048; Fri, 8 Jul 2005 13:42:31 +0300 (EEST) Received: (from keramida@localhost) by beatrix.daedalusnetworks.priv (8.13.3+Sun/8.13.3/Submit) id j68AgUSx023047; Fri, 8 Jul 2005 13:42:30 +0300 (EEST) X-Authentication-Warning: beatrix.daedalusnetworks.priv: keramida set sender to keramida@ceid.upatras.gr using -f Date: Fri, 8 Jul 2005 13:42:30 +0300 From: Giorgos Keramidas To: Drew Tomlinson Message-ID: <20050708104230.GB22902@beatrix.daedalusnetworks.priv> References: <42CDF112.5070209@mykitchentable.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <42CDF112.5070209@mykitchentable.net> Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: tar Syntax Help X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 08 Jul 2005 10:42:36 -0000 On 2005-07-07 20:20, Drew Tomlinson wrote: > I'm trying to copy an entire file system while using an exclude file > to avoid copying things such as /dev, /proc, etc. I've read the man > page and found the -X or --exclude-from tar option. I've create a > file called /exclude.list. It contains lines such as: > > /exclude.list > /dev > /proc > > But I can't figure out how to form the correct command line. I > basically want to do this: > > tar -cvf - --exclude-from /exclude.list -C / . | tar xpf - -C . Perhaps not what you're looking for, but you can perform a similar "exclude" operation on the output of find(1), using one or more grep(1) patterns and then feed the rest to cpio(1) in 'pass-through' mode: # cd / # find / | \ grep -v '^/dev/.*' | grep -v '^/proc/.*' | \ grep -v '^/mnt/.*' | \ cpio -p -dmvu /mnt The most important detail above is that the childen of /dev, /proc and /mnt are excluded, but not the directories themselves. This is why I trim from the output of find '^/dev/.*' but not '^/dev', '^/proc/.*' but not '^/proc', etc. - Giorgos From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jul 8 10:52:45 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 611E716A41C for ; Fri, 8 Jul 2005 10:52:45 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from usagi-users-admin@linux-ipv6.org) Received: from nezu.linux-ipv6.org (linux6.nezu.wide.ad.jp [203.178.142.218]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9049543D53 for ; Fri, 8 Jul 2005 10:52:43 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from usagi-users-admin@linux-ipv6.org) Received: from nezu.linux-ipv6.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by nezu.linux-ipv6.org (8.13.4/8.13.4/Debian-3) with ESMTP id j68AqUoI011124 for ; Fri, 8 Jul 2005 19:52:30 +0900 Date: Fri, 8 Jul 2005 19:52:30 +0900 From: usagi-users-admin@linux-ipv6.org To: questions@freebsd.org Message-Id: <200507081952.FMLAAB11098.usagi-users@linux-ipv6.org> References: <200507081050.j68AoYR2011070@nezu.linux-ipv6.org> X-MLServer: fml [fml 4.0.3 release (20011202/4.0.3)] X-ML-Info: If you have a question, please contact usagi-users-admin@linux-ipv6.org; Cc: Subject: You questions@freebsd.org are not member (usagi-users ML) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 08 Jul 2005 10:52:45 -0000 You are not a member of this mailing list . 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From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jul 8 11:27:58 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EB2B216A41C for ; Fri, 8 Jul 2005 11:27:58 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from dmitry.mityugov@gmail.com) Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.198]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7D89543D48 for ; Fri, 8 Jul 2005 11:27:58 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from dmitry.mityugov@gmail.com) Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id i3so430570wra for ; Fri, 08 Jul 2005 04:27:58 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=Gp0OvazsIIRmnpi0HnoBxg8RQSbwT0xfgu1LEYKhr6uV8stgK05caJDO68DEJLgk4BvpFJD1eSgoUkp+aE2PnGsc/3MkhiWLupjnPOTYOJZbglBSB60STmXJ03nSB6wrB86d11suARqkeC8veq6lyHgtAeR/To8JEKZRUJQVcxQ= Received: by 10.54.34.51 with SMTP id h51mr1510243wrh; Fri, 08 Jul 2005 04:27:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.56.33 with HTTP; Fri, 8 Jul 2005 04:27:57 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Fri, 8 Jul 2005 15:27:57 +0400 From: Dmitry Mityugov To: Gavin McDougall In-Reply-To: <42CE4FD7.7010508@mediamill.co.za> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline References: <42CE4FD7.7010508@mediamill.co.za> Cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: FreeBSD Training X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Dmitry Mityugov List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 08 Jul 2005 11:27:59 -0000 On 7/8/05, Gavin McDougall wrote: > Hi there, >=20 > Does anyone know of a company in Johannesburg, South Africa that > provides FreeBSD training courses? >=20 > There is a fortune of FreeBSD documentation and books available on the > web and could probably learn all there is to know in that manner. >=20 > However, my Boss is keen to throw some fundage into a commercial > training course that will enhance my knowledge and skills in areas > relevent to our business model. >=20 > So is there anything out there that caters for FreeBSD training in South > Africa? I found only one consulting company at http://www.freebsd.org/commercial/consult.html located in Africa, but maybe I did not look closely enough. --=20 Dmitry "We live less by imagination than despite it" - Rockwell Kent, "N by E" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jul 8 12:16:13 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0CF8616A41C for ; Fri, 8 Jul 2005 12:16:13 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from xeys_00@yahoo.com) Received: from web52308.mail.yahoo.com (web52308.mail.yahoo.com [206.190.39.103]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 6D4DF43D4C for ; Fri, 8 Jul 2005 12:16:10 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from xeys_00@yahoo.com) Received: (qmail 47071 invoked by uid 60001); 8 Jul 2005 12:16:09 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=0wBCr4JekmEz4Z8UJqrowP7rhS6mTYHwRJ6LSINOOg7JDWc5xXB+x8/z7eIxvk9/CgPrniEKz+AJyu95pRtVxgXPTKWhiSZoYD0dZgIcQqckq+AR1wcrOUbuFzPJk13k434HbMQvHkym0gI1dro80dFwvlgjLsZBNjSd49Cz0vY= ; Message-ID: <20050708121609.47069.qmail@web52308.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [70.185.22.240] by web52308.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Fri, 08 Jul 2005 05:16:09 PDT Date: Fri, 8 Jul 2005 05:16:09 -0700 (PDT) From: Cecil To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Subject: suitability of freebsd 5.3 for 486 dx2 66? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 08 Jul 2005 12:16:13 -0000 I plan on running a 486 I found laying around as a freebsd box. It only has a floppy, and yes, it's a 486. It does have 500 meg hard disk and 20 megs of ram though. Any ideas as to what is realistic to expect out of this machine? I plan to run it as a CLI box only to learn perl, python, C++ and some other stuff on. Xeys ____________________________________________________ Sell on Yahoo! Auctions – no fees. Bid on great items. http://auctions.yahoo.com/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jul 8 12:17:13 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 719F516A41C for ; Fri, 8 Jul 2005 12:17:13 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from tettehs@yahoo.com) Received: from web52904.mail.yahoo.com (web52904.mail.yahoo.com [206.190.39.181]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id EEABE43D46 for ; Fri, 8 Jul 2005 12:17:12 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from tettehs@yahoo.com) Received: (qmail 66039 invoked by uid 60001); 8 Jul 2005 12:17:12 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=zPTafflfJpUSQsrKqtGweTSPEh6ODjBHzv0cGhhcaHv+iusdMF8FZJB/zfK0a17XrwmzweeeqKj27xAn4tViOdU7/kAQWjdy2dMytroxKq2pRj7OhNDC1UDNvXy2XYOpeAqhIA6gMdnhKqdRDqMCR2dhuAvdQ1VivMILoZIW1LU= ; Message-ID: <20050708121712.66037.qmail@web52904.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [213.172.132.169] by web52904.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Fri, 08 Jul 2005 05:17:12 PDT Date: Fri, 8 Jul 2005 05:17:12 -0700 (PDT) From: Ultimate To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Subject: dual boot X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 08 Jul 2005 12:17:13 -0000 i have on my hard disk two OS. freebsd and win2k i reinstalled the win2k and upon booting i made the partition with the freebsd active. but now i can only have access to freebsd. my win2k which i know is still there doesn't get to load since freebsd boot0 doesn't register it. i have tried to ways of getting it up 1. boot0cfg -m 0x3 ad0 error msg:- boot0cf: /dev/ad0: unknown or incompatible boot code 2. fdisk -B -b /boot/boot0 ad0 error msg:- fdisk: can't write fdisk partition table: Operation not permitted Obviously, I am a newbi ... so further illustration with the solution would be appreciated Thankz __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? 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Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jul 8 12:23:05 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 74E2A16A41C for ; Fri, 8 Jul 2005 12:23:05 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from hornetmadness@gmail.com) Received: from rproxy.gmail.com (rproxy.gmail.com [64.233.170.193]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E880D43D45 for ; Fri, 8 Jul 2005 12:23:04 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from hornetmadness@gmail.com) Received: by rproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 34so118894rns for ; Fri, 08 Jul 2005 05:23:04 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=tgNjEZ4BawmaQ6mwWleHr1jqiPJa45JLc8WL04R2AfhXvKXm9Mo9ThqojDCKWSuvNq1bR9+Rp0qpSU7ouTqzLQCbUOiVL5DrWBAcFNisaa+o8jgG3EBUZ8hjZfIiv+rZ8q2h1ZD7kHRyVyCq/LoA2uI0lNkmEmtOJCp1IVmhLuc= Received: by 10.38.195.4 with SMTP id s4mr5175929rnf; Fri, 08 Jul 2005 05:23:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.38.8.44 with HTTP; Fri, 8 Jul 2005 05:23:04 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Fri, 8 Jul 2005 08:23:04 -0400 From: Hornet To: fbsd_user@a1poweruser.com In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline References: Cc: "freebsd-questions@FreeBSD. ORG" Subject: Re: PF firewall log problems X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Hornet List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 08 Jul 2005 12:23:05 -0000 I guess I'm failing to see the point of writing to the log faster. If you need real time stats, use tcpdump -n -e -ttt -i pflog0. If you want to get say the last 1000 entries in the log and then go to realtime, use: sudo tcpdump -n -e -tt -c 1000 -r /var/log/pflog & sudo tcpdump -n -e -ttt -i pflog0 On 7/7/05, fbsd_user wrote: > I am viewing pf log this way > tcpdump -n -e -ttt -r /var/log/pflog >=20 > Your reference to pflog man page is useless. > Been there already. > That gives some field names but not what is in them >=20 > One of the pf mane pages says there is way to shorten buffer write > cycle time. > How do tell PF in rc.conf these over ride options?? >=20 >=20 >=20 > -----Original Message----- > From: Hornet [mailto:hornetmadness@gmail.com] > Sent: Thursday, July 07, 2005 8:54 PM > To: fbsd_user@a1poweruser.com > Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD. ORG > Subject: Re: PF firewall log problems >=20 >=20 > On 7/7/05, fbsd_user wrote: > > How can I change the default wait time for PF buffer writes to the > log file? > > The log records are being held in the buffers for a long time > before being > > written out. > > I want to change this to a shorter time. > How are you viewing the data? >=20 > Realtime tcpdump > tcpdump -n -e -ttt -i pflog0 > or > Viewing pflog > tcpdump -n -e -ttt -r /var/log/pflog >=20 > Anything written to the tty is going to be a bit slower, of course > if > you can "jack into your brain" all would be solved. >=20 >=20 > > > > > > Are there any tools or ports for use on the PF log file to create > better > > standardized reports? > I think there is one called hatchet. Of course you can't beat good > old > fashion grep,awk, and maybe sed >=20 > > > > Where can I find a description of the PF log record fields? > http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/man.cgi?query=3Dpflog&sektion=3D4 > > > > Thanks > > _______________________________________________ > > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > >=20 >=20 > Erik >=20 > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jul 8 12:25:15 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3F57D16A41C for ; Fri, 8 Jul 2005 12:25:15 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from dmitry.mityugov@gmail.com) Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.203]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CE41743D45 for ; Fri, 8 Jul 2005 12:25:14 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from dmitry.mityugov@gmail.com) Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id i7so438538wra for ; Fri, 08 Jul 2005 05:25:14 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=aO8RaY/4pjhe288UrUQ86KouKKtHlfRnTUIePALnbMUeKZUJQri53yLrxuB0Ia2QRILHRUlp9N5gORK40ycxc+1viwLkWMSKHv4kiXLRcOerzLr34KJ/69Zk3siMFIq/V2ERP1viyhZJ+TehveJ619BUNEhR3nxhdqByRT2ktmU= Received: by 10.54.25.38 with SMTP id 38mr1563400wry; Fri, 08 Jul 2005 05:25:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.56.33 with HTTP; Fri, 8 Jul 2005 05:25:13 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Fri, 8 Jul 2005 16:25:13 +0400 From: Dmitry Mityugov To: Cecil In-Reply-To: <20050708121609.47069.qmail@web52308.mail.yahoo.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline References: <20050708121609.47069.qmail@web52308.mail.yahoo.com> Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: suitability of freebsd 5.3 for 486 dx2 66? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Dmitry Mityugov List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 08 Jul 2005 12:25:15 -0000 On 7/8/05, Cecil wrote: > I plan on running a 486 I found laying around as a > freebsd box. It only has a floppy, and yes, it's a > 486. It does have 500 meg hard disk and 20 megs of ram > though. Any ideas as to what is realistic to expect > out of this machine? I plan to run it as a CLI box > only to learn perl, python, C++ and some other stuff > on. Well, one thought comes to my mind, it probably will take forever (perhaps a week?) to make kernel and world on this CPU, and 500 mb HDD does not look big enough to accomodate temporary and object files during this process. --=20 Dmitry "We live less by imagination than despite it" - Rockwell Kent, "N by E" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jul 8 12:29:47 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6ECBD16A41C for ; Fri, 8 Jul 2005 12:29:47 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from hornetmadness@gmail.com) Received: from rproxy.gmail.com (rproxy.gmail.com [64.233.170.195]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EE01C43D49 for ; Fri, 8 Jul 2005 12:29:46 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from hornetmadness@gmail.com) Received: by rproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 1so120086rny for ; Fri, 08 Jul 2005 05:29:46 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=T1cWy7+Mdh8tY87PCKDtaHGd2AtAZxoBbtjQ5pmRILF4AQ6EC+YHuzx0cbA1RqTpJbiUCI3q398g1S3qNcH5KnEe+1e99SWMCwC3xl6L/2yYhLXwsAtTY++TIxxK+S46HSwtzOxIvXI+Ka2X7o1kg0aIOXC+eYE8o401cEpsLkY= Received: by 10.38.6.14 with SMTP id 14mr629578rnf; Fri, 08 Jul 2005 05:29:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.38.8.44 with HTTP; Fri, 8 Jul 2005 05:29:46 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Fri, 8 Jul 2005 08:29:46 -0400 From: Hornet To: Drew Tomlinson In-Reply-To: <42CDF112.5070209@mykitchentable.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline References: <42CDF112.5070209@mykitchentable.net> Cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: tar Syntax Help X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Hornet List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 08 Jul 2005 12:29:47 -0000 On 7/7/05, Drew Tomlinson wrote: > I'm trying to copy an entire file system while using an exclude file to > avoid copying things such as /dev, /proc, etc. I've read the man page > and found the -X or --exclude-from tar option. I've create a file > called /exclude.list. It contains lines such as: >=20 > /exclude.list > /dev > /proc >=20 > But I can't figure out how to form the correct command line. I > basically want to do this: >=20 > tar -cvf - --exclude-from /exclude.list -C / . | tar xpf - -C . >=20 > I've search the web and found examples that look similar to the above > but this does not work for me. tar attempts to copy /dev and I get all > the associated errors. I've tried other placements of either "-X", "X", > and "--exclude from" on the command line various things happen from it > just being ignored to tar thinking I want to create and archive named > "-X", etc., to tar trying to add a file named "-X", etc. to the current > archive. I'm at a loss. >=20 > I'm using 4.11 and trying to make a good backup before upgrading to > 5.4. Can anyone tell me the secret incantation to make this work? >=20 > Thanks, >=20 > Drew >=20 > -- > Visit The Alchemist's Warehouse > Magic Tricks, DVDs, Videos, Books, & More! >=20 > http://www.alchemistswarehouse.com >=20 > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.o= rg" >=20 I wrote this years ago, http://www.justlinux.com/forum/showpost.php?p=3D294384&postcount=3D1 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jul 8 12:40:18 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 74BED16A41C for ; Fri, 8 Jul 2005 12:40:18 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jhongjr@philonline.com) Received: from mail2.philonline.com (mail2.philonline.com [202.84.24.106]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6A7FB43D55 for ; Fri, 8 Jul 2005 12:40:16 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jhongjr@philonline.com) Received: (qmail 15166 invoked from network); 8 Jul 2005 12:40:12 -0000 Received: from sining.philonline.com (HELO ?10.0.1.246?) (202.84.24.126) by 0 with SMTP; 8 Jul 2005 12:40:12 -0000 Message-ID: <42CE741D.80903@philonline.com> Date: Fri, 08 Jul 2005 20:39:57 +0800 From: "Ceasar V. Navato, Jr." User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.2 (Windows/20050317) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Subject: FreeBSD and MSI K8MNEO-V mainboard problem X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: jhongjr@philonline.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 08 Jul 2005 12:40:18 -0000 To all gurus out there, Please help me. I am installing FreeBSD 5.4 RELEASE for AMD64 using socket 754 MSI K8MNE0-V mainboard and AMD 64 3000+ CPU and encountered this error during the base installation. It says "write failure transfer! (wrote -1 bytes of 1425408 bytes)". It always happens during the base installation. Here are the full specs of my hardware. Mainboard - MSI K8MNEO-V ver. 1 CPU - AMD64 3000+ Memory - 2 pcs. Kingston (512 x MB each) Hard disk - 2 SATA hard disk configured to use the RAID1 feature of the mainboard and 1 IDE (all Seagate) There's no problem when I use the i386 version. Thank you very much in advance, -- Ceasar V. Navato, Jr. Infodyne, Inc. - PhilOnline.com Unit 3603 Antel Global Corporate Center Doña Julia Vargas Ave. Ortigas Center, Pasig City Tel. No. - (0632) 687-0715 loc. 106 Web Site: www.philonline.com From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jul 8 12:56:56 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CDD2016A41C for ; Fri, 8 Jul 2005 12:56:56 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from NKoch@demig.de) Received: from server.absolute-media.de (server.absolute-media.de [213.239.231.9]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D9B1F43D48 for ; Fri, 8 Jul 2005 12:56:55 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from NKoch@demig.de) Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by server.absolute-media.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id C142785F32 for ; Fri, 8 Jul 2005 14:56:52 +0200 (CEST) Received: from server.absolute-media.de ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (server [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 16440-06 for ; Fri, 8 Jul 2005 14:56:48 +0200 (CEST) Received: from firewall.demig (p5083963A.dip0.t-ipconnect.de [80.131.150.58]) by server.absolute-media.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id B584C8973A for ; Fri, 8 Jul 2005 14:56:42 +0200 (CEST) Received: from ws-ew-3 (ws-ew-3.w2kdemig [192.168.1.72]) by firewall.demig (8.13.4/8.13.1) with SMTP id j68Cs3Xw066180 for ; Fri, 8 Jul 2005 14:54:03 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from NKoch@demig.de) From: "Norbert Koch" To: Date: Fri, 8 Jul 2005 15:54:01 +0200 Message-ID: <000101c583c4$7f009360$4801a8c0@ws-ew-3.W2KDEMIG> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2120.0 X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at absolute-media.de Subject: ppp via null modem cable X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 08 Jul 2005 12:56:56 -0000 Hello. I am trying to configure a FreeBSD box to serve as a ppp server for a Windows box. I have to use a null-modem cable with only RxD/TxD/GND. Here is my ppp.conf for userland ppp: default: set log ... ident ... direct0: set device /dev/cuaa0 set speed 19200 set timeout 0 set lqrperiod 10 enable lqr accept lqr set ctsrts off set cd off set accmap 000a0000 set openmode passive enable pap chap set ifaddr 172.16.0.1/0 172.16.0.100-172.16.0.199 And I have a ppp.secret with one entry only: test test Neither "ppp -dedicated direct0" nor interactive ppp work. Can someone verify, if there is something wrong with my ppp.conf, so that I _only_ need to investigate in finding Windows configuration problems? Thank you, Norbert From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jul 8 12:56:57 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D11DD16A41F for ; Fri, 8 Jul 2005 12:56:56 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from NKoch@demig.de) Received: from server.absolute-media.de (server.absolute-media.de [213.239.231.9]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D998E43D46 for ; Fri, 8 Jul 2005 12:56:55 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from NKoch@demig.de) Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by server.absolute-media.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id DAFFE89734 for ; Fri, 8 Jul 2005 14:56:52 +0200 (CEST) Received: from server.absolute-media.de ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (server [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 16440-07 for ; Fri, 8 Jul 2005 14:56:52 +0200 (CEST) Received: from firewall.demig (p5083963A.dip0.t-ipconnect.de [80.131.150.58]) by server.absolute-media.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0F4868717C for ; Fri, 8 Jul 2005 14:56:43 +0200 (CEST) Received: from ws-ew-3 (ws-ew-3.w2kdemig [192.168.1.72]) by firewall.demig (8.13.4/8.13.1) with SMTP id j68CrgpR066160 for ; Fri, 8 Jul 2005 14:53:42 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from NKoch@demig.de) From: "Norbert Koch" To: Date: Fri, 8 Jul 2005 15:53:40 +0200 Message-ID: <000001c583c4$72348380$4801a8c0@ws-ew-3.W2KDEMIG> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2120.0 X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at absolute-media.de Subject: ppp vial null modem cable X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 08 Jul 2005 12:56:57 -0000 Hello. I am trying to configure a FreeBSD box to serve as a ppp server for a Windows box. I have to use a null-modem cable with only RxD/TxD/GND. Here is my ppp.conf for userland ppp: default: set log ... ident ... direct0: set device /dev/cuaa0 set speed 19200 set timeout 0 set lqrperiod 10 enable lqr accept lqr set ctsrts off set cd off set accmap 000a0000 set openmode passive enable pap chap set ifaddr 172.16.0.1/0 172.16.0.100-172.16.0.199 And I have a ppp.secret with one entry only: test test Neither "ppp -dedicated direct0" nor interactive ppp work. Can someone verify, if there is something wrong with my ppp.conf, so that I _only_ need to investigate in finding Windows configuration problems? Thank you, Norbert From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jul 7 13:23:29 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D4E4B16A41F; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 13:23:29 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from xfb52@dial.pipex.com) Received: from smtp-out1.blueyonder.co.uk (smtp-out1.blueyonder.co.uk [195.188.213.4]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5AB4F43D53; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 13:23:28 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from xfb52@dial.pipex.com) Received: from [82.41.37.55] ([82.41.37.55]) by smtp-out1.blueyonder.co.uk with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.6713); Thu, 7 Jul 2005 14:24:10 +0100 Message-ID: <42CD2CCF.6010109@dial.pipex.com> Date: Thu, 07 Jul 2005 14:23:27 +0100 From: Alex Zbyslaw User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-GB; rv:1.7.8) Gecko/20050530 X-Accept-Language: en, en-us, pl MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Brian Duke References: <20050706132158.5997143D53@mx1.FreeBSD.org> In-Reply-To: <20050706132158.5997143D53@mx1.FreeBSD.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-OriginalArrivalTime: 07 Jul 2005 13:24:10.0951 (UTC) FILETIME=[29309570:01C582F7] X-Mailman-Approved-At: Fri, 08 Jul 2005 12:57:40 +0000 Cc: sobomax@FreeBSD.org, brian.duke@level3.com, marcus@freebsd.org, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: install FreeBSD 5.3 and gnome2 help X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 07 Jul 2005 13:23:30 -0000 Brian Duke wrote: >libtool15: link: CURRENT `1000' is not a nonnegative integer > > http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-questions/2005-May/087588.html If that doesn't work then try uninstalling libtool3 and forcing re-installation of libtool5. You don't look like you use portupgrade to manage your ports. You should. (Or use some equivalent tool; searching the mailing lists for portupgrade should find you other people's favourites). --Alex From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jul 7 19:17:30 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CBCCF16A41C for ; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 19:17:30 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from youshi10@u.washington.edu) Received: from mxout1.cac.washington.edu (mxout1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.134]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6EE6443D55 for ; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 19:17:30 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from youshi10@u.washington.edu) Received: from dante68.u.washington.edu (dante68.u.washington.edu [140.142.15.49]) by mxout1.cac.washington.edu (8.13.4+UW05.04/8.13.4+UW05.05) with ESMTP id j67JGlN5014737 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Thu, 7 Jul 2005 12:16:47 -0700 Received: from localhost (youshi10@localhost) by dante68.u.washington.edu (8.13.4+UW05.03/8.13.4+UW05.05) with ESMTP id j67JGksN048696; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 12:16:46 -0700 Date: Thu, 7 Jul 2005 12:16:46 -0700 (PDT) From: Garrett Cooper To: =?ISO-8859-15?Q?Bj=F6rn_K=F6nig?= In-Reply-To: <42CD651A.5070202@cs.tu-berlin.de> Message-ID: References: <20050707102451.GA222@pm514-9.comsys.ntu-kpi.kiev.ua> <23017470050707083439ac40bd@mail.gmail.com> <42CD651A.5070202@cs.tu-berlin.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: MULTIPART/MIXED; BOUNDARY="-1936847055-942275385-1120763806=:126156" X-Mailman-Approved-At: Fri, 08 Jul 2005 12:57:40 +0000 Cc: simon@comsys.ntu-kpi.kiev.ua, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Electrical circuits simulator X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 07 Jul 2005 19:17:30 -0000 This message is in MIME format. The first part should be readable text, while the remaining parts are likely unreadable without MIME-aware tools. ---1936847055-942275385-1120763806=:126156 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=ISO-8859-15; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: QUOTED-PRINTABLE PSpice and Candence are the only circuit simulators that I know of with=20 GUIs, and PSpice is for Windows only where I think that Cadence requires=20 purchasing a license (not sure though... look for Cadence on google). I=20 will say that Cadence is a powerful extension of Spice though. -Garrett On Thu, 7 Jul 2005, [ISO-8859-15] Bj=F6rn K=F6nig wrote: > Shantanoo wrote: > >> I haven't check Oregano. But for electrical circuit simulation 'spice' >> is nice :) > > I used spice too for a few weeks only. It's very powerful, but as far as = I=20 > know it has no GUI (everybody wants a GUI ;-p) and in my opinion it's ver= y=20 > hard to learn quickly without a printed documentation and without lots of= =20 > examples. > > By the way, I suggest 'chipmunk' if you want to build circuits with gates= ,=20 > simple controllers, segment displays and so on. > > Bj=F6rn > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.o= rg" > ---1936847055-942275385-1120763806=:126156-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jul 8 12:59:00 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 69BE916A41C for ; Fri, 8 Jul 2005 12:59:00 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from nalists@scls.lib.wi.us) Received: from mail.scls.lib.wi.us (mail.scls.lib.wi.us [198.150.40.25]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D528643D4C for ; Fri, 8 Jul 2005 12:58:59 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from nalists@scls.lib.wi.us) Received: from [172.26.2.238] ([172.26.2.238]) by mail.scls.lib.wi.us (8.12.9p2/8.12.9) with ESMTP id j68CwwG1053402; Fri, 8 Jul 2005 07:58:58 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from nalists@scls.lib.wi.us) Message-ID: <42CE77F6.5070909@scls.lib.wi.us> Date: Fri, 08 Jul 2005 07:56:22 -0500 From: Greg Barniskis User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.2 (Windows/20050317) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Dmitry Mityugov References: <20050708121609.47069.qmail@web52308.mail.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Cecil , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: suitability of freebsd 5.3 for 486 dx2 66? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 08 Jul 2005 12:59:00 -0000 Dmitry Mityugov wrote: > On 7/8/05, Cecil wrote: > >>I plan on running a 486 I found laying around as a >>freebsd box. It only has a floppy, and yes, it's a >>486. It does have 500 meg hard disk and 20 megs of ram >>though. Any ideas as to what is realistic to expect >>out of this machine? I plan to run it as a CLI box >>only to learn perl, python, C++ and some other stuff >>on. > > > Well, one thought comes to my mind, it probably will take forever > (perhaps a week?) to make kernel and world on this CPU, and 500 mb HDD > does not look big enough to accomodate temporary and object files > during this process. For Release 5.4, the installation notes indicate 24 MB RAM is required, and if I recall, some folks have indicated having problems with less than 32 MB (24 may be for a rather minimalist install). You might just be able to squeeze 4.11 onto this box, but as Dmitry noted, you're likely in for some painful compile times if you do antyhing serious with it. -- Greg Barniskis, Computer Systems Integrator South Central Library System (SCLS) Library Interchange Network (LINK) , (608) 266-6348 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jul 8 13:06:24 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 337C116A41F for ; Fri, 8 Jul 2005 13:06:24 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from cswiger@mac.com) Received: from pi.codefab.com (pi.codefab.com [199.103.21.227]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A12E543D4C for ; Fri, 8 Jul 2005 13:06:23 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from cswiger@mac.com) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pi.codefab.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B53D35EE7; Fri, 8 Jul 2005 09:06:22 -0400 (EDT) Received: from pi.codefab.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (pi.codefab.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 36840-06; Fri, 8 Jul 2005 09:06:13 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [192.168.1.3] (pool-68-161-54-113.ny325.east.verizon.net [68.161.54.113]) by pi.codefab.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 955A45C54; Fri, 8 Jul 2005 09:06:12 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <42CE7A48.70107@mac.com> Date: Fri, 08 Jul 2005 09:06:16 -0400 From: Chuck Swiger Organization: The Courts of Chaos User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.8) Gecko/20050511 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Cecil References: <20050708121609.47069.qmail@web52308.mail.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <20050708121609.47069.qmail@web52308.mail.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at codefab.com Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: suitability of freebsd 5.3 for 486 dx2 66? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 08 Jul 2005 13:06:24 -0000 Cecil wrote: > I plan on running a 486 I found laying around as a > freebsd box. It only has a floppy, and yes, it's a > 486. It does have 500 meg hard disk and 20 megs of ram > though. Any ideas as to what is realistic to expect > out of this machine? I plan to run it as a CLI box > only to learn perl, python, C++ and some other stuff > on. You don't have enough disk space to fit Perl, Python, and a full FreeBSD distribution. The CPU is going to be slow but workable, but 20MB of RAM is going to be very marginal, too. I'm not sure the installer will be able to run, although if you can get the disk built out, FreeBSD will run. -- -Chuck From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jul 8 13:15:28 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1B6B016A41C for ; Fri, 8 Jul 2005 13:15:28 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from igorr@speechpro.com) Received: from speechpro.com (speech-tech-2.ip.PeterStar.net [81.3.190.130]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ABCFB43D45 for ; Fri, 8 Jul 2005 13:15:27 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from igorr@speechpro.com) Received: from sysadm.stc ([192.168.2.26]) by s1.stc with esmtp (Exim 4.44 (FreeBSD)) id 1DqshM-000MH1-TU for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Fri, 08 Jul 2005 17:15:20 +0400 Message-ID: <42CE7C56.3000506@speechpro.com> Date: Fri, 08 Jul 2005 17:15:02 +0400 From: Igor Robul User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.2 (X11/20050518) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <20050708121712.66037.qmail@web52904.mail.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <20050708121712.66037.qmail@web52904.mail.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Archived: Yes Subject: Re: dual boot X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 08 Jul 2005 13:15:28 -0000 Ultimate wrote: > >Obviously, I am a newbi ... so further illustration >with the solution would be appreciated > > 1) Do as root "sysctl kern.geom.debugflag=16" 2) Start sysinstall 3) Go Configure->FDISK-> "OK" -> Q 4) It will ask if you wish boot manager 5) Select BootMgr From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jul 8 13:16:41 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8FCD216A41C for ; Fri, 8 Jul 2005 13:16:41 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from NKoch@demig.de) Received: from server.absolute-media.de (server.absolute-media.de [213.239.231.9]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 200F443D49 for ; Fri, 8 Jul 2005 13:16:41 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from NKoch@demig.de) Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by server.absolute-media.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5381289726; Fri, 8 Jul 2005 15:16:39 +0200 (CEST) Received: from server.absolute-media.de ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (server [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 17436-05; Fri, 8 Jul 2005 15:16:34 +0200 (CEST) Received: from firewall.demig (p5083963A.dip0.t-ipconnect.de [80.131.150.58]) by server.absolute-media.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 84E1685941; Fri, 8 Jul 2005 15:16:34 +0200 (CEST) Received: from ws-ew-3 (ws-ew-3.w2kdemig [192.168.1.72]) by firewall.demig (8.13.4/8.13.1) with SMTP id j68DBiTp067078; Fri, 8 Jul 2005 15:11:44 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from NKoch@demig.de) From: "Norbert Koch" To: "Cecil" , Date: Fri, 8 Jul 2005 16:11:42 +0200 Message-ID: <001201c583c6$f75f2c20$4801a8c0@ws-ew-3.W2KDEMIG> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2120.0 In-Reply-To: <20050708121609.47069.qmail@web52308.mail.yahoo.com> X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at absolute-media.de Cc: Subject: RE: suitability of freebsd 5.3 for 486 dx2 66? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 08 Jul 2005 13:16:41 -0000 If it is only for cli and learning programming, I'd suggest to install FreeBSD 4.11. All you need (gcc, perl, python, vim/emacs) is readyly available from the original install cd #1. I had a comparable box running as a samba fileserver under FreeBSD and even could run a "make world" on it. You need to have at least a cdrom drive or network card in your 486 box for installation. If you don't need the comfort of sysinstall, you could also give netbsd a try. > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > [mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]On Behalf Of Cecil > Sent: Friday, July 08, 2005 2:16 PM > To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > Subject: suitability of freebsd 5.3 for 486 dx2 66? > > > I plan on running a 486 I found laying around as a > freebsd box. It only has a floppy, and yes, it's a > 486. It does have 500 meg hard disk and 20 megs of ram > though. Any ideas as to what is realistic to expect > out of this machine? I plan to run it as a CLI box > only to learn perl, python, C++ and some other stuff > on. > > Xeys From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jul 8 13:26:41 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8338A16A41C for ; Fri, 8 Jul 2005 13:26:41 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from xfb52@dial.pipex.com) Received: from smtp-out4.blueyonder.co.uk (smtp-out4.blueyonder.co.uk [195.188.213.7]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 04AF043D46 for ; Fri, 8 Jul 2005 13:26:40 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from xfb52@dial.pipex.com) Received: from [82.41.37.55] ([82.41.37.55]) by smtp-out4.blueyonder.co.uk with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.6713); Fri, 8 Jul 2005 14:27:22 +0100 Message-ID: <42CE7F0E.4000104@dial.pipex.com> Date: Fri, 08 Jul 2005 14:26:38 +0100 From: Alex Zbyslaw User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-GB; rv:1.7.8) Gecko/20050530 X-Accept-Language: en, en-us, pl MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Deyan Dyankov References: <42CDB95B.3030703@dial.pipex.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-OriginalArrivalTime: 08 Jul 2005 13:27:22.0506 (UTC) FILETIME=[C5C74EA0:01C583C0] Cc: freebsd-questions Subject: Re: SSH and gigabit NICs X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 08 Jul 2005 13:26:41 -0000 Deyan Dyankov wrote: >I'm not sure that this is the problem, but ..keep in mind, that ssh >encrypts the data and ftp doesn't. >The delay might be actually the time for encryption, right? > > > Yes, this is a possibility, and I'll revisit it tonight. I thought I'd looked at the CPU usage during transfer, but I should do so again. It still seems strange to me that SSH got slower over Gigabit. It it had just not gotten faster, then the encryption would be the obvious culprit, but to get slower... Unfortunately there seems to be no way to turn off the encryption for SSH, which would be the easiest test. Thanks for the suggestion, --Alex From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jul 8 13:42:13 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DEF1216A41C for ; Fri, 8 Jul 2005 13:42:13 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from dauman@pcsinconline.com) Received: from smtp.donet.com (mail.donet.com [64.56.96.53]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 68EB543D49 for ; Fri, 8 Jul 2005 13:42:13 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from dauman@pcsinconline.com) Received: (qmail 11944 invoked by alias); 8 Jul 2005 13:42:09 -0000 Received: from cpe-24-210-183-85.woh.res.rr.com (HELO LAPTOP) (24.210.183.85) by smtp.donet.com for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org with SMTP; 8 Jul 2005 13:42:09 -0000 From: "Daniel Auman" To: Date: Fri, 8 Jul 2005 09:42:02 -0400 Message-ID: <000401c583c2$d2a32b10$0500000a@LAPTOP> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.6626 Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2527 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: Logging into FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 08 Jul 2005 13:42:14 -0000 Hi all, =20 I'm afraid I must show my extreme ignorance. Using FreeBSD 5.4 I've = created a log-in that starts a script I created =20 #!/bin/sh mysql -u "username" -p"password" =20 It works fine. I get motd, then the mysql prompt. When I type the quit command I lose my SSH connection which is great! Problem is I don't have = a clue how to even search for security problems related to using a custom login similar to what I've created. Can anybody point me in the right direction(s)? I'm happy to do the reading on my own. =20 Thanks a lot, =20 Daniel Auman Personalized Computer Systems, Inc. 4486 Indian Ripple Road Dayton, Ohio 45440 Phone: (937)296-7416 Fax: (937)431-0775 email: dauman@pcsinconline.com =20 =20 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jul 8 14:02:37 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1F65416A41C for ; Fri, 8 Jul 2005 14:02:37 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from hornetmadness@gmail.com) Received: from rproxy.gmail.com (rproxy.gmail.com [64.233.170.198]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4317243D49 for ; Fri, 8 Jul 2005 14:02:36 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from hornetmadness@gmail.com) Received: by rproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 1so125401rny for ; Fri, 08 Jul 2005 07:02:35 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=XtphJlrdms+NSQ4nGiNBXbtec6xtnqbM+QE77ACJDa1J42yYAPyYqNBmjJqzr42TzOBKTN6yyDrUCmDxqrjJe5eyE0S1fXZWcH658ibDFNjaRenGMoRhPK5qfRK2FP5OvN0z34FennhCpREmRAIBgO4tsxcywg1+49YoqdJVig8= Received: by 10.38.196.20 with SMTP id t20mr3919541rnf; Fri, 08 Jul 2005 07:02:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.38.8.44 with HTTP; Fri, 8 Jul 2005 07:02:35 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Fri, 8 Jul 2005 10:02:35 -0400 From: Hornet To: Daniel Auman In-Reply-To: <000401c583c2$d2a32b10$0500000a@LAPTOP> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline References: <000401c583c2$d2a32b10$0500000a@LAPTOP> Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Logging into FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Hornet List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 08 Jul 2005 14:02:37 -0000 On 7/8/05, Daniel Auman wrote: > Hi all, >=20 >=20 >=20 > I'm afraid I must show my extreme ignorance. Using FreeBSD 5.4 I've crea= ted > a log-in that starts a script I created >=20 >=20 >=20 > #!/bin/sh >=20 > mysql -u "username" -p"password" Are you says that you have the password hardcoded into your script? If so, make sure the read premission are set that only that user can access that script. Otherwise, your leaving your self wide open. >=20 >=20 >=20 > It works fine. I get motd, then the mysql prompt. When I type the quit > command I lose my SSH connection which is great! Problem is I don't have = a > clue how to even search for security problems related to using a custom > login similar to what I've created. Can anybody point me in the right > direction(s)? I'm happy to do the reading on my own. >=20 >=20 >=20 > Thanks a lot, >=20 >=20 >=20 > Daniel Auman > Personalized Computer Systems, Inc. > 4486 Indian Ripple Road > Dayton, Ohio 45440 > Phone: (937)296-7416 > Fax: (937)431-0775 > email: dauman@pcsinconline.com >=20 >=20 >=20 > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.o= rg" > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jul 8 14:05:08 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D56F716A41C for ; Fri, 8 Jul 2005 14:05:08 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from tettehs@yahoo.com) Received: from web52907.mail.yahoo.com (web52907.mail.yahoo.com [206.190.39.184]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 4D87F43D45 for ; Fri, 8 Jul 2005 14:05:08 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from tettehs@yahoo.com) Received: (qmail 33512 invoked by uid 60001); 8 Jul 2005 14:05:06 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=3GCrGgjKN9oLkn9F4RX7gPAU1w4l5mYJPryGGtBVA44vYbTSUeNXAns2aGRwW5CxJHFzpWqlm5clx8Le78S6Ecbl3EK6f2FPCNlcQmpmACAPOGi88D8c4dROcjOyvsU52Z1900HiYLy5I3BJ6iBJ/2dEQ/k9yU1YLqNc7OMhhHc= ; Message-ID: <20050708140506.33510.qmail@web52907.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [213.172.132.169] by web52907.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Fri, 08 Jul 2005 07:05:06 PDT Date: Fri, 8 Jul 2005 07:05:06 -0700 (PDT) From: Ultimate To: Igor Robul , freebsd help In-Reply-To: <42CE7C56.3000506@speechpro.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Cc: Subject: Igor dual boot X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 08 Jul 2005 14:05:08 -0000 HI Igor, when i follow your instruction i still do get the error below: ERROR: Unable to write data to disk ad0! ----------------------------------100%-- [OK] [Press enter or space] and Disk partition write returned an error status! ---------------------------------100%-- [OK] [Press enter or space] --- Igor Robul wrote: > Ultimate wrote: > > > > >Obviously, I am a newbi ... so further illustration > >with the solution would be appreciated > > > > > 1) Do as root "sysctl kern.geom.debugflag=16" > 2) Start sysinstall > 3) Go Configure->FDISK-> "OK" -> Q > 4) It will ask if you wish boot manager > 5) Select BootMgr > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > ____________________________________________________ Sell on Yahoo! 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Bid on great items. http://auctions.yahoo.com/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jul 8 14:08:43 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3828216A41C for ; Fri, 8 Jul 2005 14:08:43 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from igorr@speechpro.com) Received: from speechpro.com (speech-tech-2.ip.PeterStar.net [81.3.190.130]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D118C43D49 for ; Fri, 8 Jul 2005 14:08:42 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from igorr@speechpro.com) Received: from sysadm.stc ([192.168.2.26]) by s1.stc with esmtp (Exim 4.44 (FreeBSD)) id 1DqtWy-000Njl-Pp; Fri, 08 Jul 2005 18:08:40 +0400 Message-ID: <42CE88D6.6050404@speechpro.com> Date: Fri, 08 Jul 2005 18:08:22 +0400 From: Igor Robul User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.2 (X11/20050518) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Ultimate References: <20050708140506.33510.qmail@web52907.mail.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <20050708140506.33510.qmail@web52907.mail.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Archived: Yes Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Igor dual boot X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 08 Jul 2005 14:08:43 -0000 Ultimate wrote: > >Disk partition write returned an error status! >---------------------------------100%-- > [OK] > [Press enter or space] > > kern.geom.debugflags=16 of course (missing 's' at end of kern.geom.debugflags) From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jul 8 14:12:05 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B528D16A41C for ; Fri, 8 Jul 2005 14:12:05 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from igorr@speechpro.com) Received: from speechpro.com (speech-tech-2.ip.PeterStar.net [81.3.190.130]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5BA6243D46 for ; Fri, 8 Jul 2005 14:12:05 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from igorr@speechpro.com) Received: from sysadm.stc ([192.168.2.26]) by s1.stc with esmtp (Exim 4.44 (FreeBSD)) id 1DqtaF-000NqU-LA; Fri, 08 Jul 2005 18:12:03 +0400 Message-ID: <42CE89A0.60508@speechpro.com> Date: Fri, 08 Jul 2005 18:11:44 +0400 From: Igor Robul User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.2 (X11/20050518) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Daniel Auman References: <000401c583c2$d2a32b10$0500000a@LAPTOP> In-Reply-To: <000401c583c2$d2a32b10$0500000a@LAPTOP> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Archived: Yes Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Logging into FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 08 Jul 2005 14:12:05 -0000 Daniel Auman wrote: > >#!/bin/sh > >mysql -u "username" -p"password" > > User just can do "\! /bin/sh" at mysql prompt and get shell access. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jul 8 14:22:34 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 275A416A41C for ; Fri, 8 Jul 2005 14:22:34 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from tettehs@yahoo.com) Received: from web52903.mail.yahoo.com (web52903.mail.yahoo.com [206.190.39.180]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 9E9B743D46 for ; Fri, 8 Jul 2005 14:22:33 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from tettehs@yahoo.com) Received: (qmail 25396 invoked by uid 60001); 8 Jul 2005 14:22:32 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=MkjtQjnQ2LKPfpOhl712POrTyv6fkg/i3wEKuTgLkcS87ZgKl/22YW2DALIG8L8RxTkn41213npgcwM+cDYRuhXhBaD3ewYqL74ccTHw8Tyy64q24koujQuL+7dezXIc56XeCpIdkN5kuu1hJwVPpo0G+EkStlRGmsSWoQkU0qE= ; Message-ID: <20050708142232.25394.qmail@web52903.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [213.172.132.169] by web52903.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Fri, 08 Jul 2005 07:22:32 PDT Date: Fri, 8 Jul 2005 07:22:32 -0700 (PDT) From: Ultimate To: Igor Robul , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, franko@ghana.com In-Reply-To: <42CE7C56.3000506@speechpro.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Cc: Subject: Igor --> It Worksssss!!!! ---- >dual boot X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 08 Jul 2005 14:22:34 -0000 thanks a billion Man You fixed my headache!!! You are the man. Poeple, this stuff works its real good stuff --- Igor Robul wrote: > Ultimate wrote: > > > > >Obviously, I am a newbi ... so further illustration > >with the solution would be appreciated > > > > > 1) Do as root "sysctl kern.geom.debugflags=16" > 2) Start sysinstall > 3) Go Configure->FDISK-> "OK" -> Q > 4) It will ask if you wish boot manager > 5) Select BootMgr > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jul 8 14:37:39 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 42A8416A41C for ; Fri, 8 Jul 2005 14:37:39 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from freebsd@xianshi.org) Received: from mail.metronet.co.uk (mail.metronet.co.uk [213.162.97.75]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C9DCE43D46 for ; Fri, 8 Jul 2005 14:37:38 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from freebsd@xianshi.org) Received: from [192.168.1.2] (84-51-149-46.hannah446.adsl.metronet.co.uk [84.51.149.46]) by smtp.metronet.co.uk (MetroNet Mail) with ESMTP id 6A41E402D9A for ; Fri, 8 Jul 2005 15:37:26 +0100 (BST) Message-ID: <42CE8F97.4020307@xianshi.org> Date: Fri, 08 Jul 2005 15:37:11 +0100 From: Elliot Crosby-McCullough User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.2 (X11/20050326) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Root 8% reserved space and tunefs X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 08 Jul 2005 14:37:39 -0000 Evening. We are downloading an item to a freebsd 5.3 server which has a size a little short of the max size of the HD. For technical reasons there is no way to remove portions of the item before it is finished. There is enough space but only if the 8% reserved for root is taken into account. This is not currently being used as the files are being aquired as www (via apache). I cannot use tunefs to free the 8% as the files are on /usr/ and cannot be umounted. If anyone has any ideas they would be much appreciated; the only things we haven't tried are slowly shifting the data onto a seperate slice, shifting the volume bit by bit, trying to have apache run as root temporarily or replacing the HD with a larger one (the latter being the least viable). Sincerely, Elliot Crosby-McCullough From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jul 8 14:39:34 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: FreeBSD-Questions@FreeBSD.ORG Delivered-To: FreeBSD-Questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 13AA716A41C for ; Fri, 8 Jul 2005 14:39:34 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from freebsd-questions-local@be-well.ilk.org) Received: from mail24.sea5.speakeasy.net (mail24.sea5.speakeasy.net [69.17.117.26]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C6A6943D45 for ; Fri, 8 Jul 2005 14:39:33 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from freebsd-questions-local@be-well.ilk.org) Received: (qmail 5343 invoked from network); 8 Jul 2005 14:39:33 -0000 Received: from dsl092-078-145.bos1.dsl.speakeasy.net (HELO be-well.ilk.org) ([66.92.78.145]) (envelope-sender ) by mail24.sea5.speakeasy.net (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for ; 8 Jul 2005 14:39:33 -0000 Received: by be-well.ilk.org (Postfix, from userid 1147) id 38C7E2E; Fri, 8 Jul 2005 10:39:32 -0400 (EDT) Sender: lowell@be-well.ilk.org To: steve lasiter To: FreeBSD-Questions@FreeBSD.ORG References: <20050708004242.68305.qmail@web33604.mail.mud.yahoo.com> From: Lowell Gilbert Date: 08 Jul 2005 10:39:31 -0400 In-Reply-To: <20050708004242.68305.qmail@web33604.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <444qb5qs4c.fsf@be-well.ilk.org> Lines: 9 User-Agent: Gnus/5.09 (Gnus v5.9.0) Emacs/21.3 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Cc: Subject: Re: DarwinStreamingServer problem X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: FreeBSD-Questions@FreeBSD.ORG List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 08 Jul 2005 14:39:34 -0000 steve lasiter writes: > "Please get DSS-v5_0_3_2.zip from > http://developer.apple.com/darwin/project/streaming/ > And you must accept the APSL. Then, put in > /usr/ports/distfiles/DDS-v5_0_3_2.zip" Add an "s" to "project". As in: http://developer.apple.com/darwin/projects/streaming/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jul 8 15:06:59 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 592D616A420 for ; Fri, 8 Jul 2005 15:06:59 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from casey@phantombsd.org) Received: from phantombsd.org (dsl231-036-158.sea1.dsl.speakeasy.net [216.231.36.158]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E33EA43D4C for ; Fri, 8 Jul 2005 15:06:58 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from casey@phantombsd.org) Received: by phantombsd.org (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 8561E102DEE; Fri, 8 Jul 2005 08:06:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: from tomcat.phantombsd.org (tomcat.phantombsd.org [192.168.1.6]) by phantombsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AE830102C19; Fri, 8 Jul 2005 08:06:54 -0700 (PDT) From: Casey Scott To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Fri, 8 Jul 2005 08:06:54 -0700 User-Agent: KMail/1.6.2 References: <42CE8F97.4020307@xianshi.org> In-Reply-To: <42CE8F97.4020307@xianshi.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <200507080806.54457.casey@phantombsd.org> X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.0.4 (2005-06-05) on eagle.phantombsd.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.8 required=5.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED autolearn=failed version=3.0.4 Cc: Elliot Crosby-McCullough Subject: Re: Root 8% reserved space and tunefs X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 08 Jul 2005 15:06:59 -0000 On Friday 08 July 2005 07:37 am, Elliot Crosby-McCullough wrote: > Evening. > > We are downloading an item to a freebsd 5.3 server which has a size a > little short of the max size of the HD. For technical reasons there is > no way to remove portions of the item before it is finished. > > There is enough space but only if the 8% reserved for root is taken > into account. This is not currently being used as the files are being > aquired as www (via apache). > > I cannot use tunefs to free the 8% as the files are on /usr/ and cannot > be umounted. > > If anyone has any ideas they would be much appreciated; the only things > we haven't tried are slowly shifting the data onto a seperate slice, > shifting the volume bit by bit, trying to have apache run as root > temporarily or replacing the HD with a larger one (the latter being the > least viable). > > Sincerely, > Elliot Crosby-McCullough > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" Why can't you just download the item as root then? You could probably do a wget under sudo. Casey From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jul 8 15:39:03 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 970FC16A41C for ; Fri, 8 Jul 2005 15:39:03 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from bob@fxp.org) Received: from chaos.fxp.org (chaos.fxp.org [216.155.111.15]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4DF8143D49 for ; Fri, 8 Jul 2005 15:39:03 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from bob@fxp.org) Received: from localhost (localhost.fxp.org [127.0.0.1]) by chaos.fxp.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0394F28426 for ; Fri, 8 Jul 2005 11:39:01 -0400 (EDT) Received: from chaos.fxp.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (chaos.fxp.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 34687-01-6 for ; Fri, 8 Jul 2005 11:38:57 -0400 (EDT) Received: by chaos.fxp.org (Postfix, from userid 1103) id 3CEDC28420; Fri, 8 Jul 2005 11:38:57 -0400 (EDT) Date: Fri, 8 Jul 2005 11:38:57 -0400 From: Bob Bomar To: questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20050708153857.GA41250@chaos.fxp.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="sdtB3X0nJg68CQEu" Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.9i X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at fxp.org Cc: Subject: Redirecting requests X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Bob Bomar List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 08 Jul 2005 15:39:03 -0000 --sdtB3X0nJg68CQEu Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I am looking for the best way to redirect request on a specific port. Baiscally all I want to do is when a connection is made to a port, say 5000, send that request out through another port, say 2000, on the other interface. Any ideas? --=20 Bob Bomar bob@ibsd.us ----------------------------- FreeBSD: The Power to Serve http://www.freebsd.org --sdtB3X0nJg68CQEu Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.1 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFCzp4R9Jm/aTrtdKoRAvfwAJ4oJ1DMQrcE1U0YxoTkYvbTA3X8RACeMTGO apitvsXMVlp4gFqdhJ2LCi8= =zK3m -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --sdtB3X0nJg68CQEu-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jul 8 15:43:56 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 817DE16A41C for ; Fri, 8 Jul 2005 15:43:56 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from hornetmadness@gmail.com) Received: from rproxy.gmail.com (rproxy.gmail.com [64.233.170.203]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BAB8F43D4C for ; Fri, 8 Jul 2005 15:43:55 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from hornetmadness@gmail.com) Received: by rproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 34so130896rns for ; Fri, 08 Jul 2005 08:43:55 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=doqKWGaO5IsUsnpfNanAf/R0gBWiIHNODDUUSkHsG8IyfReUohEgSXBzrobgL76/u/3Y4n6BnPO5imRpf46jS/nfOKXqXvT1vofAE9QDgY6mb8wW4h0SdJnBcthOQRAy5vy8PZ3fVmB7xXPpUfrrThAKU4O7xOsTB17Bi7ebLxE= Received: by 10.38.6.14 with SMTP id 14mr788960rnf; Fri, 08 Jul 2005 08:43:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.38.8.44 with HTTP; Fri, 8 Jul 2005 08:43:55 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Fri, 8 Jul 2005 11:43:55 -0400 From: Hornet To: Bob Bomar In-Reply-To: <20050708153857.GA41250@chaos.fxp.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline References: <20050708153857.GA41250@chaos.fxp.org> Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Redirecting requests X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Hornet List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 08 Jul 2005 15:43:56 -0000 I'm using PF, and have this which works like a champ rdr on $public proto tcp from any to any port 3389 -> 1.2.3.4 port 3389 rdr on $public proto tcp from any to any port 3390 -> 1.2.3.5 port 3389 pass in on $public proto tcp from any to any port {3380:3390} keep state On 7/8/05, Bob Bomar wrote: > I am looking for the best way to redirect request > on a specific port. Baiscally all I want to do > is when a connection is made to a port, say 5000, > send that request out through another port, say 2000, > on the other interface. Any ideas? >=20 > -- > Bob Bomar > bob@ibsd.us > ----------------------------- > FreeBSD: The Power to Serve > http://www.freebsd.org >=20 >=20 >=20 > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jul 8 15:46:07 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 329DB16A41C for ; Fri, 8 Jul 2005 15:46:07 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from bob@fxp.org) Received: from chaos.fxp.org (chaos.fxp.org [216.155.111.15]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D422343D55 for ; Fri, 8 Jul 2005 15:46:06 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from bob@fxp.org) Received: from localhost (localhost.fxp.org [127.0.0.1]) by chaos.fxp.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7592328426; Fri, 8 Jul 2005 11:46:06 -0400 (EDT) Received: from chaos.fxp.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (chaos.fxp.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 34687-01-17; Fri, 8 Jul 2005 11:46:02 -0400 (EDT) Received: by chaos.fxp.org (Postfix, from userid 1103) id 0831028420; Fri, 8 Jul 2005 11:46:02 -0400 (EDT) Date: Fri, 8 Jul 2005 11:46:01 -0400 From: Bob Bomar To: Hornet Message-ID: <20050708154601.GB41250@chaos.fxp.org> References: <20050708153857.GA41250@chaos.fxp.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="i9LlY+UWpKt15+FH" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.9i X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at fxp.org Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Redirecting requests X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Bob Bomar List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 08 Jul 2005 15:46:07 -0000 --i9LlY+UWpKt15+FH Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Fri, Jul 08, 2005 at 11:43:55AM -0400, Hornet wrote: > I'm using PF, and have this which works like a champ >=20 > rdr on $public proto tcp from any to any port 3389 -> 1.2.3.4 port 3389 > rdr on $public proto tcp from any to any port 3390 -> 1.2.3.5 port 3389 >=20 > pass in on $public proto tcp from any to any port {3380:3390} keep state >=20 >=20 >=20 > On 7/8/05, Bob Bomar wrote: > > I am looking for the best way to redirect request > > on a specific port. Baiscally all I want to do > > is when a connection is made to a port, say 5000, > > send that request out through another port, say 2000, > > on the other interface. Any ideas? My problem lies in the fact that the first machine and second machine will have the same IP address, its a long story, but that is what the client wants. --=20 Bob Bomar bob@ibsd.us ----------------------------- FreeBSD: The Power to Serve http://www.freebsd.org --i9LlY+UWpKt15+FH Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.1 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFCzp+59Jm/aTrtdKoRAgFMAJwLYtwMGY5uLU2Wanz0Amt+jtMhvwCggbj6 pLSNgHmR7CKXDnHLx34Ch9s= =OuuG -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --i9LlY+UWpKt15+FH-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jul 8 15:46:13 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A483E16A41C for ; Fri, 8 Jul 2005 15:46:13 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from gustavodn@gmail.com) Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.204]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0875D43D58 for ; Fri, 8 Jul 2005 15:46:12 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from gustavodn@gmail.com) Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id i11so478783wra for ; Fri, 08 Jul 2005 08:46:12 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=Su8J1pbtw2ehUPhK3ajKfPX/FlFND+dpaH8F2UeQMwcWqJ+7j2cfJZRTT7tWjNYaq/tV09Q+0C9ScB7TDPr9XC36FChe3H32HxlfilYbhItsijQcGkI5o4hy6uS+qYWozC0sod2knOxNeIEStCXKnP2TdLK126cYuvi6dPDD66A= Received: by 10.54.2.18 with SMTP id 18mr1276139wrb; Fri, 08 Jul 2005 08:39:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.34.63 with HTTP; Fri, 8 Jul 2005 08:39:01 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <50af0a2605070808395fe6abf9@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 8 Jul 2005 12:39:01 -0300 From: Gustavo De Nardin To: freebsd-questions In-Reply-To: <42CE7F0E.4000104@dial.pipex.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline References: <42CDB95B.3030703@dial.pipex.com> <42CE7F0E.4000104@dial.pipex.com> Subject: Re: SSH and gigabit NICs X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 08 Jul 2005 15:46:13 -0000 On 08/07/05, Alex Zbyslaw wrote: > Unfortunately there seems to be no way to turn off the encryption for > SSH, which would be the easiest test. Well, looking at /usr/src/crypto/openssh/cipher.c, there is a "none" in struct Cipher. But specifying 'none' in Ciphers in sshd_config, I get "Bad SSH2 cipher spec 'none'." trying to start sshd. Does anyone know if/how the "none" Cipher is really available? I need ssh only for authentication when transfering backups, and encryption makes a difference in transfer speed on slow machines... --=20 (nil) From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jul 8 15:50:14 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D9DC816A41C for ; Fri, 8 Jul 2005 15:50:14 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from brett@lariat.org) Received: from lariat.org (lariat.net [65.122.236.2]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2B55A43D55 for ; Fri, 8 Jul 2005 15:50:13 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from brett@lariat.org) Received: from Anonymous.lariat.org (IDENT:ppp1000.lariat.net@lariat.net [65.122.236.2]) by lariat.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA14537; Fri, 8 Jul 2005 09:49:55 -0600 (MDT) X-message-flag: Warning! Use of Microsoft Outlook renders your system susceptible to Internet worms. Message-Id: <6.2.1.2.2.20050708094601.086c0ae8@localhost> X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 6.2.1.2 Date: Fri, 08 Jul 2005 09:49:46 -0600 To: "Ted Mittelstaedt" , From: Brett Glass In-Reply-To: References: <6.2.1.2.2.20050706104045.0931c6b0@localhost> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Cc: Subject: RE: Has this box been hacked? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 08 Jul 2005 15:50:15 -0000 Give ME a break. You're only stating the obvious: the more daemons are running, the more exposure. This particular box is running BIND 8, a transparent Squid proxy, and SSH. BIND is sandboxed and Squid is running as a nonprivileged user. Squid is also set not to take requests from outside. I wasn't the one who configured it; I've been asked to analyze it. --Brett At 11:56 PM 7/6/2005, Ted Mittelstaedt wrote: >Sure, FreeBSD 4.11 is very easy for a remote attacker to root. >All you need to do is let a user on it setup some convenient >password like the word "password" for the root user, and use >the same on an easy-to-remember userID >like "sam" or "bob", then put a DNS entry in for it like >"porno-pictures.example.com" and post that on a popular website >and it shouldn't take but a few days for it to get rooted. > >Other than that, give me a break, Brett. If this is a router and >an out of the box install then there's no services turned on >that can be rooted. Is it customary to run a webserver on your >router nowadays? > >Give us a list of services this box is running and we can give >you a better idea of how easy it might be to root. > >Ted > >>-----Original Message----- >>From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org >>[mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]On Behalf Of Brett Glass >>Sent: Wednesday, July 06, 2005 9:42 AM >>To: questions@freebsd.org >>Subject: Has this box been hacked? >> >> >>A client had a network problem, and I wanted to make sure that >>his FreeBSD 4.11 >>router wasn't the cause of it, so I rebooted it. I then did a >>"last" command >>and saw the following: >> >>root ttyv0 Tue Jul 5 12:01 - >>12:05 (00:04) >>admin ttyp0 localhost Tue Jul 5 11:57 - >>11:57 (00:00) >>root ttyv0 Tue Jul 5 11:49 - >>12:00 (00:11) >>reboot ~ Tue Jul 5 11:49 >>shutdown ~ Tue Jul 5 11:47 >>root ttyv0 Tue Jul 5 11:37 - >>shutdown (00:10) >>reboot ~ Tue Jul 5 11:36 >>shutdown ~ Tue Jul 5 05:36 >>shutdown ~ Tue Jul 5 11:22 >> >>Note the "shutdown" entry with the time 5:36 AM, which is odd >>because it's out of >>chronological order and the other logs don't show the typical >>debug messages >>at that time. Where might such an entry come from? How likely >>is it that the box >>has been rooted? Are there known exploits that might have been >>used to root a >>FreeBSD 4.11-RELEASE machine? (The only unusual activity I can >>see in the logs is a >>few attempts to log in as "root" via SSH. The attempts that >>were logged were >>not successful, but of course a skilled attacker would cover >>his tracks.) >> >>--Brett >> >>_______________________________________________ >>freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list >>http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions >>To unsubscribe, send any mail to >>"freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" >> From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jul 8 15:50:57 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3C7EB16A41C for ; Fri, 8 Jul 2005 15:50:57 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from hornetmadness@gmail.com) Received: from rproxy.gmail.com (rproxy.gmail.com [64.233.170.203]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BB19D43D58 for ; Fri, 8 Jul 2005 15:50:54 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from hornetmadness@gmail.com) Received: by rproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 34so131332rns for ; Fri, 08 Jul 2005 08:50:54 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=AvsfN8VgqQC6Yh1myXF290K9DP7ui10w5hIgwzdzV8phLIJIqqSM9nipj5RIvJxit/D0sC/1gKcCdc9p1eOX7UbJP/ag6TZCWyIAgToPS+tYz3cidWza1LL06tuIeeWemv9JSTYkD7W+9n07q07yIqxLZdcUgZz6Lq4Go5lkqgM= Received: by 10.38.196.20 with SMTP id t20mr4009823rnf; Fri, 08 Jul 2005 08:50:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.38.8.44 with HTTP; Fri, 8 Jul 2005 08:50:54 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Fri, 8 Jul 2005 11:50:54 -0400 From: Hornet To: Bob Bomar In-Reply-To: <20050708154601.GB41250@chaos.fxp.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline References: <20050708153857.GA41250@chaos.fxp.org> <20050708154601.GB41250@chaos.fxp.org> Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Redirecting requests X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Hornet List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 08 Jul 2005 15:50:57 -0000 Then change "from any to any" to "from any to $intreface1" I think that is the syntax. On 7/8/05, Bob Bomar wrote: > On Fri, Jul 08, 2005 at 11:43:55AM -0400, Hornet wrote: > > I'm using PF, and have this which works like a champ > > > > rdr on $public proto tcp from any to any port 3389 -> 1.2.3.4 port 3389 > > rdr on $public proto tcp from any to any port 3390 -> 1.2.3.5 port 3389 > > > > pass in on $public proto tcp from any to any port {3380:3390} keep stat= e > > > > > > > > On 7/8/05, Bob Bomar wrote: > > > I am looking for the best way to redirect request > > > on a specific port. Baiscally all I want to do > > > is when a connection is made to a port, say 5000, > > > send that request out through another port, say 2000, > > > on the other interface. Any ideas? >=20 > My problem lies in the fact that the first machine and second > machine will have the same IP address, its a long story, but > that is what the client wants. >=20 > -- > Bob Bomar > bob@ibsd.us > ----------------------------- > FreeBSD: The Power to Serve > http://www.freebsd.org >=20 >=20 >=20 > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jul 8 15:53:46 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 76BAE16A41C for ; Fri, 8 Jul 2005 15:53:46 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from gustavodn@gmail.com) Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.196]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1923743D49 for ; Fri, 8 Jul 2005 15:53:46 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from gustavodn@gmail.com) Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id i16so482097wra for ; Fri, 08 Jul 2005 08:53:45 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=WHU3LffgF2XG2vLu6xSDBq0dYggNCkIND2N1tZ4Aum9G+JWbXdYPn9VKbkKcXeqi82f7zBPm65Ra+N9Sd1bIHFQUwBR8WSV2QtBho9MTpOSVR/M2L53SBUomTr7COrwt9+ZOsS2lLc26dYRRTWx3Fhrm+9L3sVMjNZMPuQD2ERI= Received: by 10.54.44.7 with SMTP id r7mr1723350wrr; Fri, 08 Jul 2005 08:53:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.34.63 with HTTP; Fri, 8 Jul 2005 08:53:13 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <50af0a26050708085372db8b5a@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 8 Jul 2005 12:53:13 -0300 From: Gustavo De Nardin To: freebsd-questions In-Reply-To: <42CDB95B.3030703@dial.pipex.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline References: <42CDB95B.3030703@dial.pipex.com> Subject: Re: SSH and gigabit NICs X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 08 Jul 2005 15:53:46 -0000 On 07/07/05, Alex Zbyslaw wrote: > Does anyone have a clue what might be going on? Dunno, but you might take a look at /usr/ports/security/hpn-ssh/: --- pkg-descr --- High Performance Enabled SSH/SCP from the Pittsburgh Supercomputing Center hpn-ssh is a version of OpenSSH modified to support high-performance bulk transfers (such as with scp or rsync). These modifications are required because: SCP and the underlying SSH protocol is network performance limited by statically defined internal flow control buffers. These buffers often end up acting as a brake on the network throughput of SCP especially on long and wide paths. Modifying the ssh code to allow the flow control buffers to be defined at run time eliminates this bottleneck. WWW: http://www.psc.edu/networking/projects/hpn-ssh/ --=20 (nil) From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jul 8 15:57:21 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A3EB116A41C for ; Fri, 8 Jul 2005 15:57:21 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from sharkwang@gmail.com) Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.205]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 456B943D55 for ; Fri, 8 Jul 2005 15:57:21 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from sharkwang@gmail.com) Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 36so638112wri for ; Fri, 08 Jul 2005 08:57:20 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; b=CjJu6WH23EDyrlKRVcBxWWklKsL0W2zsI3nRfP//W0Uzm20GJi8FecC4DVy2fElJC0paLc8g3+ZWZsF2vbqPAEqCXnPIli4ZniCuF5Uf0jV+LzVOrzlG/MU1rivtn8hztpsDuF7pRp+sF8NGQc4ha2c7S/FOTy6PhucnPs9t6DU= Received: by 10.54.17.72 with SMTP id 72mr3511157wrq; Fri, 08 Jul 2005 08:57:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.19.45 with HTTP; Fri, 8 Jul 2005 08:57:20 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <1e22f359050708085757f0f597@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 8 Jul 2005 23:57:20 +0800 From: Shark Wang To: FreeBSD User Groups for Questions Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline Subject: Can't use 'su' command, after I installed FreeBSD by minimized model ! X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Shark Wang List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 08 Jul 2005 15:57:21 -0000 When I logon, my $SHELL is /bin/sh, but when I use 'su root' to do some=20 confige, the system told me : $ su su: Sorry I found out the su command location with the following : $ which su /usr/bin/su Anybody help me to figure out the problems ? thanks! From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jul 8 15:57:33 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C27DA16A41C for ; Fri, 8 Jul 2005 15:57:33 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from brett@lariat.org) Received: from lariat.org (lariat.net [65.122.236.2]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3692B43D49 for ; Fri, 8 Jul 2005 15:57:33 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from brett@lariat.org) Received: from Anonymous.lariat.org (IDENT:ppp1000.lariat.net@lariat.net [65.122.236.2]) by lariat.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA14663; Fri, 8 Jul 2005 09:57:29 -0600 (MDT) X-message-flag: Warning! Use of Microsoft Outlook renders your system susceptible to Internet worms. Message-Id: <6.2.1.2.2.20050708095639.082177c0@localhost> X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 6.2.1.2 Date: Fri, 08 Jul 2005 09:57:26 -0600 To: J65nko BSD From: Brett Glass In-Reply-To: <19861fba05070716321226c330@mail.gmail.com> References: <6.2.1.2.2.20050706104045.0931c6b0@localhost> <19861fba05070716321226c330@mail.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Has this box been hacked? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 08 Jul 2005 15:57:33 -0000 At 05:32 PM 7/7/2005, J65nko BSD wrote: >If you would have installed something like tripwire or aide, you would have been in a better position to find out whether the box has been owned. I didn't build the machine. --Brett Glass From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jul 8 16:08:44 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 014CF16A41C for ; Fri, 8 Jul 2005 16:08:44 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jerrymc@clunix.cl.msu.edu) Received: from clunix.cl.msu.edu (clunix.cl.msu.edu [35.9.2.10]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 909F243D45 for ; Fri, 8 Jul 2005 16:08:43 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jerrymc@clunix.cl.msu.edu) Received: from clunix.cl.msu.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by clunix.cl.msu.edu (8.12.10+Sun/8.12.2) with ESMTP id j68G8eJF001556; Fri, 8 Jul 2005 12:08:40 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from jerrymc@localhost) by clunix.cl.msu.edu (8.12.10+Sun/8.12.2/Submit) id j68G8e1W001555; Fri, 8 Jul 2005 12:08:40 -0400 (EDT) From: Jerry McAllister Message-Id: <200507081608.j68G8e1W001555@clunix.cl.msu.edu> To: sharkwang@gmail.com Date: Fri, 8 Jul 2005 12:08:40 -0400 (EDT) In-Reply-To: <1e22f359050708085757f0f597@mail.gmail.com> X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.5 PL7] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: FreeBSD User Groups for Questions Subject: Re: Can't use 'su' command, X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 08 Jul 2005 16:08:44 -0000 > > When I logon, my $SHELL is /bin/sh, but when I use 'su root' to do some > confige, the system told me : > > $ su > su: Sorry > > I found out the su command location with the following : > > $ which su > /usr/bin/su > > Anybody help me to figure out the problems ? thanks! Is your id in the 'wheel' group? It must be to be allowed to do an su to root. ////jerry > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jul 8 16:09:14 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 16FD816A41F for ; Fri, 8 Jul 2005 16:09:14 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from florian2000@no-log.org) Received: from coliposte.enst-bretagne.fr (coliposte.enst-bretagne.fr [192.108.115.12]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5549C43D49 for ; Fri, 8 Jul 2005 16:09:12 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from florian2000@no-log.org) Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by coliposte.enst-bretagne.fr (8.12.10/8.12.10/2004.10.03) with ESMTP id j68G9Ahs001430 for ; Fri, 8 Jul 2005 18:09:10 +0200 Received: from courrier.enst-bretagne.fr (courrier.enst-bretagne.fr [192.44.75.71]) by coliposte.enst-bretagne.fr (8.12.10/8.12.10/2004.09.01) with ESMTP id j68G8cZH001406 for ; Fri, 8 Jul 2005 18:08:39 +0200 Received: from [192.168.0.6] (vpn-brest-private.ext.enst-bretagne.fr [192.168.2.253]) by courrier.enst-bretagne.fr (8.12.11/8.12.11/2004.12.01) with ESMTP id j68G8ZwA012341 for ; Fri, 8 Jul 2005 18:08:36 +0200 (MEST) From: Florian To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: 42AAF5F2.4010805@polands.org Content-Type: text/plain Date: Fri, 08 Jul 2005 18:08:37 +0200 Message-Id: <1120838917.8321.3.camel@localhost.localdomain> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.2.1.1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at enst-bretagne.fr Subject: netgear wg311T and ath driver attaching X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 08 Jul 2005 16:09:14 -0000 hi i found the posts above while searching freebsd's mailinglists i've exactly the same pb with freebsd 5.4 and netgear WG311T did you find any solution ?? i don't really want to upgrade to 6.0 and i'm not sure it will solve the pb :( otherwise i could buy another wireless card (i can give mine back to the shop 7 days after buying it) which 802.11g pci card is really known to work with freebsd 5.4 ?? (because i've also be looking to man pages saying it was supported....) thanks for your help ! Florian Luke St.Clair wrote: >I'm attempting to use the netgear wg311T card, which I bought since the ath >man >page and docs said it is supported under FBSD. I'm using the 5.4 >release. >>Yes, I'm using one on -CURRENT >If so, is it possible to just download/compile the ath driver from >-CURRENT? If so, how? >>The driver is part of the system, you don't have to download/compile >>Simply >>put this in your /boot/loader.conf: if_ath_load="YES" >Or should I be able to make this work on a release system? >>Yes, see above. Sorry, I must not have been clear - I kldloaded the if_ath module, as specified in my first post, which is what gave me the dmesg errors. The ath0 interface then does not show up in ifconfig -a, because of the errors. So I'm not sure how, on a 5.4-RELEASE system, what you're suggesting could work. If the ath driver attached properly, yes, if_ath_load would in fact start my card automatically on boot, but the driver can't attach, so trying to attach on bootup isn't very helpful. So, the question still stands, i think - can i get this card working on a 5.4 release sytem, or do i have to use CURRENT or do something else? And if I can't get this working on current, the man page of ath REALLY needs to be updated, at the very least to specify that wg311v1 is supported, but not v2, like the OBSD man page does. Any my apologies for what must end up looking like horrible html mail from hotmail - my main mail is down temporarily. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jul 8 16:09:53 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A857616A41C for ; Fri, 8 Jul 2005 16:09:53 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from hornetmadness@gmail.com) Received: from rproxy.gmail.com (rproxy.gmail.com [64.233.170.194]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2983E43D58 for ; Fri, 8 Jul 2005 16:09:50 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from hornetmadness@gmail.com) Received: by rproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 40so131795rnz for ; Fri, 08 Jul 2005 09:09:49 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=m1GsCDJ4/o19l+bS2V0BLPcxgdToPe+wktqsYGVSfsnWs51ADFyhpnXiJHGYOwyHLfGJdb7PUlyTb2s3hf56uMeevU07VXWZCrGbuX35eddxe+JuY10nPpB9gsxVKv+c60KdRyyOwf2lOGWrb8XwXjOVqqrbcsbE+hxEEU7EbjU= Received: by 10.38.6.14 with SMTP id 14mr809582rnf; Fri, 08 Jul 2005 09:09:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.38.8.44 with HTTP; Fri, 8 Jul 2005 09:09:49 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Fri, 8 Jul 2005 12:09:49 -0400 From: Hornet To: Brett Glass In-Reply-To: <6.2.1.2.2.20050708094601.086c0ae8@localhost> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline References: <6.2.1.2.2.20050706104045.0931c6b0@localhost> <6.2.1.2.2.20050708094601.086c0ae8@localhost> Cc: questions@freebsd.org, Ted Mittelstaedt Subject: Re: Has this box been hacked? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Hornet List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 08 Jul 2005 16:09:53 -0000 On 7/8/05, Brett Glass wrote: > Give ME a break. You're only stating the obvious: the more > daemons are running, the more exposure. Brett say hello to my insta-trash filter. Get a hair cut you damn hippie http://www.ymmv.com/gifs/brett.gif This particular box > is running BIND 8, a transparent Squid proxy, and SSH. BIND > is sandboxed and Squid is running as a nonprivileged user. > Squid is also set not to take requests from outside. >=20 > I wasn't the one who configured it; I've been asked to > analyze it. >=20 > --Brett >=20 > At 11:56 PM 7/6/2005, Ted Mittelstaedt wrote: >=20 http://www.ymmv.com/gifs/brett.gif >=20 > >Sure, FreeBSD 4.11 is very easy for a remote attacker to root. > >All you need to do is let a user on it setup some convenient > >password like the word "password" for the root user, and use > >the same on an easy-to-remember userID > >like "sam" or "bob", then put a DNS entry in for it like > >"porno-pictures.example.com" and post that on a popular website > >and it shouldn't take but a few days for it to get rooted. > > > >Other than that, give me a break, Brett. If this is a router and > >an out of the box install then there's no services turned on > >that can be rooted. Is it customary to run a webserver on your > >router nowadays? > > > >Give us a list of services this box is running and we can give > >you a better idea of how easy it might be to root. > > > >Ted > > > >>-----Original Message----- > >>From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > >>[mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]On Behalf Of Brett Glass > >>Sent: Wednesday, July 06, 2005 9:42 AM > >>To: questions@freebsd.org > >>Subject: Has this box been hacked? > >> > >> > >>A client had a network problem, and I wanted to make sure that > >>his FreeBSD 4.11 > >>router wasn't the cause of it, so I rebooted it. I then did a > >>"last" command > >>and saw the following: > >> > >>root ttyv0 Tue Jul 5 12:01 - > >>12:05 (00:04) > >>admin ttyp0 localhost Tue Jul 5 11:57 - > >>11:57 (00:00) > >>root ttyv0 Tue Jul 5 11:49 - > >>12:00 (00:11) > >>reboot ~ Tue Jul 5 11:49 > >>shutdown ~ Tue Jul 5 11:47 > >>root ttyv0 Tue Jul 5 11:37 - > >>shutdown (00:10) > >>reboot ~ Tue Jul 5 11:36 > >>shutdown ~ Tue Jul 5 05:36 > >>shutdown ~ Tue Jul 5 11:22 > >> > >>Note the "shutdown" entry with the time 5:36 AM, which is odd > >>because it's out of > >>chronological order and the other logs don't show the typical > >>debug messages > >>at that time. Where might such an entry come from? How likely > >>is it that the box > >>has been rooted? Are there known exploits that might have been > >>used to root a > >>FreeBSD 4.11-RELEASE machine? (The only unusual activity I can > >>see in the logs is a > >>few attempts to log in as "root" via SSH. The attempts that > >>were logged were > >>not successful, but of course a skilled attacker would cover > >>his tracks.) > >> > >>--Brett > >> > >>_______________________________________________ > >>freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > >>http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > >>To unsubscribe, send any mail to > >>"freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > >> >=20 > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.o= rg" > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jul 8 16:12:29 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 70F3A16A41C for ; Fri, 8 Jul 2005 16:12:29 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jim.mozley@exponential-e.com) Received: from mx1.exponential-e.net (ixbl-sun-02.exponential-e.net [62.244.177.19]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 23C5B43D48 for ; Fri, 8 Jul 2005 16:12:26 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jim.mozley@exponential-e.com) Received: from 62-244-191-249.cust.exponential-e.net ([62.244.191.249]:55667 helo=[127.0.0.1]) by mx1.exponential-e.net with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1DqvSj-0004PW-DV for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Fri, 08 Jul 2005 16:12:25 +0000 Message-ID: <42CEA51C.2000202@exponential-e.com> Date: Fri, 08 Jul 2005 17:09:00 +0100 From: Jim Mozley Organization: Exponential-e User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.2 (Windows/20050317) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Screen display problem during installation X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 08 Jul 2005 16:12:29 -0000 I'm trying to install 5.4 on a system that currently has 4.10 on it. My problem is that when the system boots from the install disk 1 I cannot see the initial menu due to a display problem. I see the initial boot information then the box that should have the selection options in, but without the content of the box. The box just overwrites the display information, leaves the boot information on the screen and I see BSD Daemon to the right of it. I don't have a floppy drive on the system to attempt a console install so I cannot use that solution. From memory I didn't have any problems with the 4.10 install, so I tried on another PC with the same CD and this displayed the initial menu OK. Any ideas on what I could do to resolve this? Thanks, Jim From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jul 8 16:15:21 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6527716A41F for ; Fri, 8 Jul 2005 16:15:21 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from shawn@clearwave.ca) Received: from orangecrush.clearwave.ca (h139-142-194-114.gtcust.grouptelecom.net [139.142.194.114]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 085C943D45 for ; Fri, 8 Jul 2005 16:15:20 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from shawn@clearwave.ca) Received: from cwc0001 (h139-142-196-250.gtcust.grouptelecom.net [139.142.196.250]) by orangecrush.clearwave.ca (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3F600142AD5 for ; Fri, 8 Jul 2005 10:15:41 -0600 (MDT) From: "Shawn Wall" To: "Questions at FreeBSD" Date: Fri, 8 Jul 2005 10:15:29 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1250" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook, Build 11.0.6353 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 Thread-Index: AcWD2EIHb+g5lWjhRWe4dBkhssBxQw== Message-Id: <20050708161541.3F600142AD5@orangecrush.clearwave.ca> Cc: Subject: Ntpd error msg X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 08 Jul 2005 16:15:21 -0000 Hello list, I've just installed a new 5.3 server and I have setup ntpd. When I start the daemon I get this error msg: Wintermute ntpd[512]: Frequency format error in /var/db/ntpd.drift Here is my ntp.conf: Driftfile /var/db/ntpd.drift Server pool.ntp.org Server pool.ntp.org Server pool.ntp.org Server pool.ntp.org Restrict default ignore Ntpd.drift is located in /var/db/ Any ideas? Thanks. shawn -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.323 / Virus Database: 267.8.11/44 - Release Date: 7/8/2005 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jul 8 16:25:23 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AB24C16A41C for ; Fri, 8 Jul 2005 16:25:23 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from gayn.winters@mail.bristolsystems.com) Received: from dns.bristolsystems.com (h-68-167-239-98.noclli.covad.net [68.167.239.98]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6CFB243D48 for ; Fri, 8 Jul 2005 16:25:23 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from gayn.winters@mail.bristolsystems.com) Received: from workdog ([192.168.1.201]) by dns.bristolsystems.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id j68GPGg18981; Fri, 8 Jul 2005 09:25:16 -0700 From: "Gayn Winters" To: "'Elliot Crosby-McCullough'" , Date: Fri, 8 Jul 2005 09:25:11 -0700 Message-ID: <08a901c583d9$9d977d60$c901a8c0@workdog> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.4024 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 In-Reply-To: <42CE8F97.4020307@xianshi.org> Importance: Normal Cc: Subject: RE: Root 8% reserved space and tunefs X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 08 Jul 2005 16:25:23 -0000 > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > [mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org] On Behalf Of > Elliot Crosby-McCullough > Sent: Friday, July 08, 2005 7:37 AM > To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > Subject: Root 8% reserved space and tunefs > > > Evening. > > We are downloading an item to a freebsd 5.3 server > which has a size a > little short of the max size of the HD. For technical > reasons there is > no way to remove portions of the item before it is finished. > > There is enough space but only if the 8% reserved for > root is taken > into account. This is not currently being used as the files > are being > aquired as www (via apache). > > I cannot use tunefs to free the 8% as the files are on > /usr/ and cannot > be umounted. > > If anyone has any ideas they would be much appreciated; > the only things > we haven't tried are slowly shifting the data onto a seperate slice, > shifting the volume bit by bit, trying to have apache run as root > temporarily or replacing the HD with a larger one (the latter > being the > least viable). > > Sincerely, > Elliot Crosby-McCullough Buy an extra disk drive? If there is no space to plug in another drive, you could use an USB external drive. -gayn From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jul 8 16:38:31 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0EE6E16A41C for ; Fri, 8 Jul 2005 16:38:31 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from tettehs@yahoo.com) Received: from web52905.mail.yahoo.com (web52905.mail.yahoo.com [206.190.39.182]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id D022043D48 for ; Fri, 8 Jul 2005 16:38:29 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from tettehs@yahoo.com) Received: (qmail 50308 invoked by uid 60001); 8 Jul 2005 16:38:27 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=PI08rn5pRIaOA22TvRa+rjxDTNpPvNIeSaOjQ+UFFQzZ6oQ8MJ9pMWUUzmskUggEjS3zHuPe9+rFn3yRRa2b6wVJpsj+g+1tmz3GFho9jcodzO/E0gCQ1meU3DIFtbVHua7jTToBz7P4z58+rALe6i1xw7xayhPBY6/o0XJ709c= ; Message-ID: <20050708163827.50306.qmail@web52905.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [213.172.132.169] by web52905.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Fri, 08 Jul 2005 09:38:27 PDT Date: Fri, 8 Jul 2005 09:38:27 -0700 (PDT) From: Ultimate To: Garrett Cooper , freebsd help In-Reply-To: <42CEA4FD.6050100@u.washington.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Cc: Subject: Thanks Garrett --> Re: dual boot X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 08 Jul 2005 16:38:31 -0000 I got something from Igor which worked > 1) Do as root "sysctl kern.geom.debugflags=16" > 2) Start sysinstall > 3) Go Configure->FDISK-> "OK" -> Q > 4) It will ask if you wish boot manager > 5) Select BootMgr --- Garrett Cooper wrote: > Ultimate wrote: > > ># fdisk -l > >fdisk: illegal option --l > >usage: fdisk ....etc > > > >--- Garrett Cooper > wrote: > > > > > > > >>Ultimate wrote: > >> > >> > >> > >>>i have on my hard disk two OS. freebsd and win2k > >>>i reinstalled the win2k and upon booting i made > the > >>> > >>> > >>>partition with the freebsd active. > >>>but now i can only have access to freebsd. > >>>my win2k which i know is still there doesn't > >>>get to load since freebsd boot0 doesn't register > >>> > >>> > >>it. > >> > >> > >>>i have tried to ways of getting it up > >>> > >>>1. boot0cfg -m 0x3 ad0 > >>>error msg:- boot0cf: /dev/ad0: unknown or > >>>incompatible boot code > >>> > >>>2. fdisk -B -b /boot/boot0 ad0 > >>>error msg:- fdisk: can't write fdisk partition > >>> > >>> > >>table: > >> > >> > >>>Operation not permitted > >>> > >>> > >>>Obviously, I am a newbi ... so further > illustration > >>>with the solution would be appreciated > >>> > >>>Thankz > >>> > >>> > >>> > >> Could you copy your output from fdisk -l here > >>please? > >>Thanks, > >>-Garrett > >> > >> > >> > Sorry, I was thinking linux. Try -v. > -Garrett > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! 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X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 08 Jul 2005 16:42:18 -0000 > When I logon, my $SHELL is /bin/sh, but when I use 'su root' to do some > confige, the system told me : > > $ su > su: Sorry > > I found out the su command location with the following : > > $ which su > /usr/bin/su > > Anybody help me to figure out the problems ? thanks! > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > is the user name your are using to attempt su in the wheel group? can you log in directly as root? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jul 8 16:48:23 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CB1F716A41C for ; Fri, 8 Jul 2005 16:48:23 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from estover@nativenerds.com) Received: from mail.nativenerds.com (host-70-0-111-24.midco.net [24.111.0.70]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5677243D48 for ; Fri, 8 Jul 2005 16:48:23 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from estover@nativenerds.com) Received: from mail.nativenerds.com (localhost.nativenerds.com [127.0.0.1]) by mail.nativenerds.com (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j68H5Mnc071466 for ; Fri, 8 Jul 2005 11:05:22 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from estover@nativenerds.com) Received: (from www@localhost) by mail.nativenerds.com (8.12.11/8.12.11/Submit) id j68H5MGT071463; Fri, 8 Jul 2005 11:05:22 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from estover@nativenerds.com) X-Authentication-Warning: mail.nativenerds.com: www set sender to estover@nativenerds.com using -f Received: from 208.34.9.238 (SquirrelMail authenticated user estover); by mail.nativenerds.com with HTTP; Fri, 8 Jul 2005 11:05:21 -0600 (MDT) Message-ID: <1180.208.34.9.238.1120842321.squirrel@208.34.9.238> In-Reply-To: <20050708153857.GA41250@chaos.fxp.org> References: <20050708153857.GA41250@chaos.fxp.org> Date: Fri, 8 Jul 2005 11:05:21 -0600 (MDT) From: estover@nativenerds.com To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.3a X-Mailer: SquirrelMail/1.4.3a MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV 0.85.1/972/Fri Jul 8 07:43:11 2005 on mail.nativenerds.com X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.3 required=5.0 tests=NO_REAL_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on mail.nativenerds.com Subject: Re: Redirecting requests X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 08 Jul 2005 16:48:23 -0000 > I am looking for the best way to redirect request > on a specific port. Baiscally all I want to do > is when a connection is made to a port, say 5000, > send that request out through another port, say 2000, > on the other interface. Any ideas? > > -- > Bob Bomar > bob@ibsd.us > ----------------------------- > FreeBSD: The Power to Serve > http://www.freebsd.org > > IPFW can do that with some creative thinking. Give us a little more on what you are doing and we might be able to help a bit more. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jul 8 16:51:53 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7DEC616A41C for ; Fri, 8 Jul 2005 16:51:53 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from dan@malaby.com) Received: from mail.uemsvc.net (bl.metron.com [192.160.193.107]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 34BAE43D53 for ; Fri, 8 Jul 2005 16:51:53 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from dan@malaby.com) Received: from [192.168.18.10] (tc-73.eugene.epud.net [12.108.30.73]) (authenticated bits=0) by mail.uemsvc.net (8.13.4/8.12.6) with ESMTP id j68Gpgu3049356 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Fri, 8 Jul 2005 09:51:47 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dan@malaby.com) Message-ID: <42CEAF1E.5010603@malaby.com> Date: Fri, 08 Jul 2005 09:51:42 -0700 From: Daniel Malaby User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (Windows/20041206) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: a sort ? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: dan@malaby.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 08 Jul 2005 16:51:53 -0000 Hi All, I am trying to sort a tab delimited file with sort. The problem I am having is with the -t option. I can not get it to accept a tab. Things I have tried: sort -t \t sort -t '\t' sort -t "\t" sort -t 0x09 sort -t '0x09' sort -t "0x09" sort -t ^I sort -t '^I' sort -t "^I" Any suggestions would be much appreciated. Thanks From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jul 8 17:02:00 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: FreeBSD-questions@FreeBSD.org Delivered-To: FreeBSD-questions@FreeBSD.org Received: by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix, from userid 645) id EA8B716A41F; Fri, 8 Jul 2005 17:02:00 +0000 (GMT) To: FreeBSD-questions@FreeBSD.org Message-Id: <20050708170200.EA8B716A41F@hub.freebsd.org> Date: Fri, 8 Jul 2005 17:02:00 +0000 (GMT) From: grog@FreeBSD.ORG (Greg Lehey) Cc: Subject: How to get best results from FreeBSD-questions X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 08 Jul 2005 17:02:01 -0000 How to get the best results from FreeBSD questions. =================================================== Last update $Date: 2004/09/19 02:40:48 $ This is a regular posting to the FreeBSD questions mailing list. If you got it in answer to a message you sent, it means that the sender thinks that at least one of the following things was wrong with your message: - You left out a subject line, or the subject line was not appropriate. - You formatted it in such a way that it was difficult to read. - You asked more than one unrelated question in one message. - You sent out a message with an incorrect date, time or time zone. - You sent out the same message more than once. - You sent an 'unsubscribe' message to FreeBSD-questions. If you have done any of these things, there is a good chance that you will get more than one copy of this message from different people. Read on, and your next message will be more successful. This document is also available on the web at http://www.lemis.com/questions.html. ===================================================================== Contents: I: Introduction II: How to unsubscribe from FreeBSD-questions III: Should I ask -questions, -newbies or -hackers? IV: How to submit a question to FreeBSD-questions V: How to answer a question to FreeBSD-questions I: Introduction =============== This is a regular posting aimed to help both those seeking advice from FreeBSD-questions (the "newcomers"), and also those who answer the questions (the "hackers"). Note that the term "hacker" has nothing to do with breaking into other people's computers. The correct term for the latter activity is "cracker", but the popular press hasn't found out yet. The FreeBSD hackers disapprove strongly of cracking security, and have nothing to do with it. In the past, there has been some friction which stems from the different viewpoints of the two groups. The newcomers accused the hackers of being arrogant, stuck-up, and unhelpful, while the hackers accused the newcomers of being stupid, unable to read plain English, and expecting everything to be handed to them on a silver platter. 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Here's the general information for the list you've subscribed to, in case you don't already have it: FREEBSD-QUESTIONS User questions This is the mailing list for questions about FreeBSD. You should not send "how to" questions to the technical lists unless you consider the question to be pretty technical. Normally, unsubscribing is even simpler than the message suggests: you don't need to specify your mail ID unless it is different from the one which you specified when you subscribed. If Majordomo replies and tells you (incorrectly) that you're not on the list, this may mean one of two things: 1. You have changed your mail ID since you subscribed. That's where keeping the original message from majordomo comes in handy. For example, the sample message above shows my mail ID as grog@lemis.de. Since then, I have changed it to grog@lemis.com. If I were to try to remove grog@lemis.com from the list, it would fail: I would have to specify the name with which I joined. 2. You're subscribed to a mailing list which is subscribed to FreeBSD-questions. If that's the case, you'll have to figure out which one it is and get your name taken off that one. If you're not sure which one it might be, check the headers of the messages you receive from freebsd-questions: maybe there's a clue there. If you've done all this, and you still can't figure out what's going on, send a message to Postmaster@FreeBSD.org, and he will sort things out for you. Don't send a message to FreeBSD-questions: they can't help you. III: Should I ask -questions, -newbies or -hackers? =================================================== Two mailing lists handle general questions about FreeBSD, FreeBSD-questions and FreeBSD-hackers. In addition, the FreeBSD-newbies list caters specifically for people who are new to FreeBSD and may be having trouble getting used to the environment. In some cases, it's not really clear which group you should ask. The following criteria should help for 99% of all questions, however: If the question is of a general nature, first check whether this isn't a Frequently Asked Question (FAQ). There's a list of these questions at http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/faq/index.html, and also on your own system (once you've installed it) at /usr/share/doc/en/books/faq/index.html. Check there, and if you don't find an answer, ask FreeBSD-questions. Examples might be questions about installing FreeBSD or the use of a particular UNIX utility. If you think the question relates to a bug, but you're not sure, or you don't know how to look for it, send the message to FreeBSD-questions. If the question relates to a bug, and you're almost sure that it's a bug (for example, you can pinpoint the place in the code where it happens, and you maybe have a fix), then send the message to FreeBSD-hackers. You should also enter a problem report with the send-pr utility. If the question relates to enhancements to FreeBSD, and you can make suggestions about how to implement them, then send the message to FreeBSD-hackers. If the question is of particularly technical nature, such as implementation details or suggestions for improvements, then send the message to FreeBSD-hackers. If you're new to FreeBSD, and the message is about your own relationship to FreeBSD, send the message to FreeBSD-newbies. There are also a number of other specialized mailing lists, for example FreeBSD-isp, which caters to the interests of ISPs (Internet Service Providers) who run FreeBSD. If you happen to be an ISP, this doesn't mean you should automatically send your questions to FreeBSD-isp. The criteria above still apply, and it's in your interest to stick to them, since you're more likely to get good results that way. IV: How to submit a question ============================= When submitting a question to FreeBSD-questions, consider the following points: 1. Remember that nobody gets paid for answering a FreeBSD question. They do it of their own free will. You can influence this free will positively by submitting a well-formulated question supplying as much relevant information as possible. You can influence this free will negatively by submitting an incomplete, illegible, or rude question. It's perfectly possible to send a message to FreeBSD-questions and not get an answer even if you follow these rules. It's much more possible to not get an answer if you don't. In the rest of this document, we'll look at how to get the most out of your question to FreeBSD-questions. 2. Not everybody who answers FreeBSD questions reads every message: they look at the subject line and decide whether it interests them. Clearly, it's in your interest to specify a subject. ``FreeBSD problem'' or ``Help'' aren't enough. If you provide no subject at all, many people won't bother reading it. If your subject isn't specific enough, the people who can answer it may not read it. 3. When sending a new message, well, send a new message. Don't reply to some other message, erase the old content and change the subject line. That leaves an In-reply-to: header which many mail readers use to thread messages, so your message shows up as a reply to some other message. People often delete messages a whole thread at a time, so apart from irritating people, you also run a chance of having the message deleted unread. 4. Format your message so that it is legible, and PLEASE DON'T SHOUT!!!!!. We appreciate that a lot of people don't speak English as their first language, and we try to make allowances for that, but it's really painful to try to read a message written full of typos or without any line breaks. A lot of badly formatted messages come from bad mailers or badly configured mailers. The following mailers are known to send out badly formatted messages without you finding out about them: Eudora exmh Microsoft Exchange Microsoft Internet Mail Microsoft Outlook Netscape As you can see, the mailers in the Microsoft world are frequent offenders. If at all possible, use a UNIX mailer. If you must use a mailer under Microsoft environments, make sure it is set up correctly. Try not to use MIME: a lot of people use mailers which don't get on very well with MIME. For further information on this subject, check out http://www.lemis.com/email.html. 5. Make sure your time and time zone are set correctly. This may seem a little silly, since your message still gets there, but many of the people you are trying to reach get several hundred messages a day. They frequently sort the incoming messages by subject and by date, and if your message doesn't come before the first answer, they may assume they missed it and not bother to look. 6. Don't include unrelated questions in the same message. Firstly, a long message tends to scare people off, and secondly, it's more difficult to get all the people who can answer all the questions to read the message. 7. Specify as much information as possible. This is a difficult area, and we need to expand on what information you need to submit, but here's a start: If you get error messages, don't say ``I get error messages'', say (for example) ``I get the error message 'No route to host'''. If your system panics, don't say ``My system panicked'', say (for example) ``my system panicked with the message 'free vnode isn't'''. If you have difficulty installing FreeBSD, please tell us what hardware you have. In particular, it's important to know the IRQs and I/O addresses of the boards installed in your machine. If you have difficulty getting PPP to run, describe the configuration. Which version of PPP do you use? What kind of authentication do you have? Do you have a static or dynamic IP address? What kind of messages do you get in the log file? 8. If you don't get an answer immediately, or if you don't even see your own message appear on the list immediately, don't resend the message. Wait at least 24 hours. The FreeBSD mailer offloads messages to a number of subordinate mailers around the world, and sometimes it can take several hours for the mail to get through. And once it gets through, the one person who might know the answer will probably just have gone to bed in his part of the world. 9. If you do all this, and you still don't get an answer, there could be other reasons. For example, the problem is so complicated that nobody knows the answer, or the person who does know the answer was offline. If you don't get an answer after, say, a week, it might help to re-send the message. If you don't get an answer to your second message, though, you're probably not going to get one from this forum. Resending the same message again and again will only make you unpopular. To summarize, let's assume you know the answer to the following question (yes, it's the same one in each case :-). You choose which of these two questions you would be more prepared to answer: Message 1: Subject: (none) I just can't get hits damn silly FereBSD system to workd, and Im really good at this tsuff, but I have never seen anythign sho difficult to install, it jst wont work whatever I try so why don't y9ou guys tell me what I doing wrong. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message 2: Subject: Problems installing FreeBSD I've just got the FreeBSD 2.1.5 CD-ROM from Walnut Creek, and I'm having a lot of difficulty installing it. I have a 66 MHz 486 with 16 MB of memory and an Adaptec 1540A SCSI board, a 1.2GB Quantum Fireball disk and a Toshiba 3501XA CD-ROM drive. The installation works just fine, but when I try to reboot the system, I get the message "Missing Operating System". ---------------------------------------------------------------------- V: How to follow up to a question ================================= Often you will want to send in additional information to a question you have already sent. The best way to do this is to reply to your original message. This has three advantages: 1. You include the original message text, so people will know what you're talking about. Don't forget to trim unnecessary text out, though. 2. The text in the subject line stays the same (you did remember to put one in, didn't you?). Many mailers will sort messages by subject. This helps group messages together. 3. The message reference numbers in the header will refer to the previous message. Some mailers, such as mutt, can thread messages, showing the exact relationships between the messages. VI: How to answer a question ============================ Before you answer a question to FreeBSD-questions, consider: 1. A lot of the points on submitting questions also apply to answering questions. Read them. 2. Has somebody already answered the question? The easiest way to check this is to sort your incoming mail by subject: then (hopefully) you'll see the question followed by any answers, all together. If somebody has already answered it, it doesn't automatically mean that you shouldn't send another answer. But it makes sense to read all the other answers first. 3. Do you have something to contribute beyond what has already been said? In general, "Yeah, me too" answers don't help much, although there are exceptions, like when somebody is describing a problem he's having, and he doesn't know whether it's his fault or whether there's something wrong with the hardware or software. If you do send a "me too" answer, you should also include any further relevant information. 4. Are you sure you understand the question? Very frequently, the person who asks the question is confused or doesn't express himself very well. Even with the best understanding of the system, it's easy to send a reply which doesn't answer the question. This doesn't help: you'll leave the person who submitted the question more frustrated or confused than ever. If nobody else answers, and you're not too sure either, you can always ask for more information. 5. Are you sure your answer is correct? If not, wait a day or so. If nobody else comes up with a better answer, you can still reply and say, for example, "I don't know if this is correct, but since nobody else has replied, why don't you try replacing your ATAPI CD-ROM with a frog?". 6. Unless there's a good reason to do otherwise, reply to the sender and to FreeBSD-questions. Many people on the FreeBSD-questions are "lurkers": they learn by reading messages sent and replied to by others. If you take a message which is of general interest off the list, you're depriving these people of their information. Be careful with group replies; lots of people send messages with hundreds of CCs. If this is the case, be sure to trim the Cc: lines appropriately. 7. Include relevant text from the original message. Trim it to the minimum, but don't overdo it. It should still be possible for somebody who didn't read the original message to understand what you're talking about. 8. Use some technique to identify which text came from the original message, and which text you add. I personally find that prepending ``> '' to the original message works best. Leaving white space after the ``> '' and leave empty lines between your text and the original text both make the result more readable. 9. Put your response in the correct place (after the text to which it replies). It's very difficult to read a thread of responses where each reply comes before the text to which it replies. 10. Most mailers change the subject line on a reply by prepending a text such as ``Re: ''. If your mailer doesn't do it automatically, you should do it manually. 11. If the submitter didn't abide by format conventions (lines too long, inappropriate subject line), please fix it. In the case of an incorrect subject line (such as ``HELP!!??''), change the subject line to (say) ``Re: Difficulties with sync PPP (was: HELP!!??)''. That way other people trying to follow the thread will have less difficulty following it. In such cases, it's appropriate to say what you did and why you did it, but try not to be rude. If you find you can't answer without being rude, don't answer. If you just want to reply to a message because of its bad format, just reply to the submitter, not to the list. You can just send him this message in reply, if you like. $Id: Howto-ask-questions,v 1.5 2004/09/19 02:40:48 grog Exp $ _______________________________________________ Thanks to Josh Paetzel for updating this document to describe mailman. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jul 8 17:02:01 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: FreeBSD-questions@FreeBSD.org Delivered-To: FreeBSD-questions@FreeBSD.org Received: by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix, from userid 645) id F36B616A420; Fri, 8 Jul 2005 17:02:00 +0000 (GMT) To: FreeBSD-questions@FreeBSD.org Message-Id: <20050708170200.F36B616A420@hub.freebsd.org> Date: Fri, 8 Jul 2005 17:02:00 +0000 (GMT) From: grog@FreeBSD.ORG (Greg Lehey) Cc: Subject: "The Complete FreeBSD": errata and addenda X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 08 Jul 2005 17:02:01 -0000 The trouble with books is that you can't update them the way you can a web page or any other online documentation. The result is that most leading edge computer books are out of date almost before they are printed. Unfortunately, The Complete FreeBSD, published by O'Reilly, is no exception. Inevitably, a number of bugs and changes have surfaced. "The Complete FreeBSD" has been through a total of five editions, including its predecessor "Installing and Running FreeBSD". Two of these have been reprinted with corrections. I maintain a series of errata pages. Start at http://www.lemis.com/errata-4.html to find out how to get the errata information. Have you found a problem with the book, or maybe something confusing? Please let me know: I'm constantly updating it. Greg From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jul 8 17:19:03 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6FE9616A41C for ; Fri, 8 Jul 2005 17:19:03 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from e0025265@student.tuwien.ac.at) Received: from mr.tuwien.ac.at (mr2-n.kom.tuwien.ac.at [128.131.2.110]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CC91143D45 for ; Fri, 8 Jul 2005 17:19:02 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from e0025265@student.tuwien.ac.at) Received: from webmail.zserv.tuwien.ac.at (lps.ben.tuwien.ac.at [193.170.74.11]) by mr.tuwien.ac.at (8.12.10/8.12.8) with SMTP id j68HIqvs012350 for ; Fri, 8 Jul 2005 19:18:53 +0200 (MEST) MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: V-webmail 1.5.1 ( http://www.v-webmail.co.uk/ ) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: Date: Fri, 8 Jul 2005 19:18:52 +0200 From: "Florian Hengstberger" To: FreeBSD mailinglist X-Vwebmail-Auth: e0025265@stud3.tuwien.ac.at X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-milter (http://amavis.org/) Subject: simple locate question X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 08 Jul 2005 17:19:03 -0000 How to creata a second locate database for private use? (mp3 database or so). I have tried $ locate -U dir_with_mp3s -o database.dtb Searching in this database doent work $ locate -d database.dtb somesong.mp3 gives no result. The database exists and it looks ok, seems to be a simple ascii format. What am I doing wrong? I guess its simple, isn't it! Thanks Florian From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jul 8 17:28:51 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8D47B16A41C for ; Fri, 8 Jul 2005 17:28:51 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from leblanc@keyslapper.net) Received: from russian-caravan.cloud9.net (russian-caravan.cloud9.net [168.100.1.4]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 25F1743D48 for ; Fri, 8 Jul 2005 17:28:50 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from leblanc@keyslapper.net) Received: from russian-caravan.cloud9.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by russian-caravan.cloud9.net (Postfix) with SMTP id 5506A15464 for ; Fri, 8 Jul 2005 13:28:42 -0400 (EDT) Received: from keyslapper.net (250-119.customer.cloud9.net [168.100.250.119]) by russian-caravan.cloud9.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E816D15239 for ; Fri, 8 Jul 2005 13:28:41 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by keyslapper.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 99EB611686 for ; Fri, 8 Jul 2005 13:28:41 -0400 (EDT) Received: from keyslapper.net ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (keyslapper.net [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 42903-07 for ; Fri, 8 Jul 2005 13:28:41 -0400 (EDT) Received: by keyslapper.net (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 6E47A115DB; Fri, 8 Jul 2005 13:28:41 -0400 (EDT) Date: Fri, 8 Jul 2005 13:28:41 -0400 From: Louis LeBlanc To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20050708172841.GK40261@keyslapper.net> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <42CEAF1E.5010603@malaby.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="/04w6evG8XlLl3ft" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <42CEAF1E.5010603@malaby.com> X-PGP-Key: http://www.keyslapper.net/~leblanc/leblanc-at-keyslapper-net.asc User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.9i X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at keyslapper.net X-AntiVirus: Checked by Vexira Antivirus v1.5 Subject: Re: a sort ? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 08 Jul 2005 17:28:51 -0000 --/04w6evG8XlLl3ft Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 07/08/05 09:51 AM, Daniel Malaby sat at the `puter and typed: > Hi All, >=20 > I am trying to sort a tab delimited file with sort. The problem I am > having is with the -t option. I can not get it to accept a tab. >=20 > Things I have tried: >=20 > sort -t \t > sort -t '\t' > sort -t "\t" > sort -t 0x09 > sort -t '0x09' > sort -t "0x09" > sort -t ^I > sort -t '^I' > sort -t "^I" >=20 > Any suggestions would be much appreciated. Did you try sorting without the -t parameter? IIRC, it uses whitespace to delimit fields by default, which includes the tab. Unless you're trying to sort by a field other than the first, you really don't need it anyway. Then again, you could also just hit the tab key: -t ' '. HTH Lou --=20 Louis LeBlanc FreeBSD-at-keyslapper-DOT-net Fully Funded Hobbyist, KeySlapper Extrordinaire :) Please send off-list email to: leblanc at keyslapper d.t net Key fingerprint =3D C5E7 4762 F071 CE3B ED51 4FB8 AF85 A2FE 80C8 D9A2 Genius doesn't work on an assembly line basis. You can't simply say, "Today I will be brilliant." -- Kirk, "The Ultimate Computer", stardate 4731.3 --/04w6evG8XlLl3ft Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.1 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFCzrfJr4Wi/oDI2aIRAjPkAJ0fSkQbskDvdT10Mu5ofrLpQzCoAACbBb4+ tPM51bNe3KHqEjJkjBeY34U= =3glf -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --/04w6evG8XlLl3ft-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jul 8 17:32:31 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6E9CE16A41C for ; Fri, 8 Jul 2005 17:32:31 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from WD@US-Webmasters.com) Received: from usw2.natel.net (2b.bz [209.152.117.190]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id E3DA243D49 for ; Fri, 8 Jul 2005 17:32:28 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from WD@US-Webmasters.com) Received: (qmail 62743 invoked from network); 8 Jul 2005 17:32:24 -0000 Received: from batv-01-053.dialup.netins.net (HELO Htebazile.US-Webmasters.com) (216.248.109.54) by us-webmasters.com with SMTP; 8 Jul 2005 17:32:24 -0000 Message-Id: <5.1.0.14.2.20050708122827.1e12db10@209.152.117.178> X-Sender: wd@209.152.117.178 X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Fri, 08 Jul 2005 12:31:28 -0500 To: "Shawn Wall" From: "W. D." In-Reply-To: <20050708161541.3F600142AD5@orangecrush.clearwave.ca> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: Questions at FreeBSD Subject: Re: Ntpd error msg X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 08 Jul 2005 17:32:31 -0000 At 11:15 7/8/2005, Shawn Wall wrote: >Hello list, > >I've just installed a new 5.3 server and I have setup ntpd. When I start= the >daemon I get this error msg: > > Wintermute ntpd[512]: Frequency format error in /var/db/ntpd.drift > >Here is my ntp.conf: > >Driftfile /var/db/ntpd.drift > >Server pool.ntp.org >Server pool.ntp.org >Server pool.ntp.org >Server pool.ntp.org > >Restrict default ignore > >Ntpd.drift is located in /var/db/ > >Any ideas? Thanks. > >shawn You should be able to zero out the file and it should be regenerated. It shouldn't matter, but the drift file is usuallly named "ntp.drift" and is located in "/etc": http://www.US-Webmasters.com/FreeBSD/Install/NTP/ Start Here to Find It Fast!=99 ->= http://www.US-Webmasters.com/best-start-page/ $8.77 Domain Names -> http://domains.us-webmasters.com/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jul 8 17:40:02 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 08F2F16A41C for ; Fri, 8 Jul 2005 17:40:02 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ds@hacked.com.br) Received: from web05.poli.usp.br (web05.poli.usp.br [143.107.106.19]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 14AEA43D49 for ; Fri, 8 Jul 2005 17:40:00 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ds@hacked.com.br) Received: from [172.20.0.3] ([201.13.3.7]) by web05.poli.usp.br over TLS secured channel with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.6713); Fri, 8 Jul 2005 14:39:49 -0300 Message-ID: <42CEBA24.2040006@hacked.com.br> Date: Fri, 08 Jul 2005 14:38:44 -0300 From: Vinicius Pavanelli Vianna User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.2 (Windows/20050317) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Enigmail-Version: 0.91.0.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-OriginalArrivalTime: 08 Jul 2005 17:39:49.0900 (UTC) FILETIME=[0A5434C0:01C583E4] Subject: IPFW not seeing packages from passive monitor X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 08 Jul 2005 17:40:02 -0000 Hi, I just had setup a FreeBSD server to do some monitor on bandwidth and IDS on a passive port in my switch (a span port), so i'm doing some ipfw rules to connect with rrdtool and get some graphs of traffic by tcpports and this kind of stuff, but all packages from this NIC in the span port seems to not be visible to ipfw, i can tcpdump it, but no rule can count this packages, what can be the cause of this? I had setup an internal IP on this NIC (10.0.0.0/8), ipfw on the other interface works ok, i have this sysctl settings: net.link.ether.inet.proxyall: 0 net.link.ether.inet.log_arp_wrong_iface: 1 net.link.ether.inet.log_arp_movements: 1 net.link.ether.ipfw: 1 net.inet.ip.fw.enable: 1 net.inet.ip.fw.autoinc_step: 100 net.inet.ip.fw.one_pass: 1 net.inet.ip.fw.debug: 1 net.inet.ip.fw.verbose: 1 net.inet.ip.fw.verbose_limit: 0 net.inet.ip.fw.dyn_buckets: 256 net.inet.ip.fw.curr_dyn_buckets: 256 net.inet.ip.fw.dyn_count: 0 net.inet.ip.fw.dyn_max: 4096 net.inet.ip.fw.static_count: 13 net.inet.ip.fw.dyn_ack_lifetime: 300 net.inet.ip.fw.dyn_syn_lifetime: 20 net.inet.ip.fw.dyn_fin_lifetime: 1 net.inet.ip.fw.dyn_rst_lifetime: 1 net.inet.ip.fw.dyn_udp_lifetime: 10 net.inet.ip.fw.dyn_short_lifetime: 5 net.inet.ip.fw.dyn_keepalive: 1 TIA, Vinicius From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jul 8 17:42:35 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: FreeBSD-Questions@FreeBSD.ORG Delivered-To: FreeBSD-Questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2FEFC16A41C for ; Fri, 8 Jul 2005 17:42:35 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from slas7713@yahoo.com) Received: from web33611.mail.mud.yahoo.com (web33611.mail.mud.yahoo.com [68.142.199.243]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 8CA1043D48 for ; Fri, 8 Jul 2005 17:42:33 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from slas7713@yahoo.com) Received: (qmail 73257 invoked by uid 60001); 8 Jul 2005 17:42:32 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=s6q4CcVNDvAx+8fyNRRwwQKyt80NWVzgMLAmM/SXKXxzQlpUO3Ry2kd+VaS9OdQGtREK6+1mX5/36IvXMKX+P1FwcsE4fIsmYmS/bLQuOqsT3If6rtI5EUtMO2IP/DrCIFjWLNiQa1P2FJwIGnGAtl7D/b6ya3y8yfyKIUxV9qY= ; Message-ID: <20050708174232.73255.qmail@web33611.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Received: from [24.216.129.249] by web33611.mail.mud.yahoo.com via HTTP; Fri, 08 Jul 2005 10:42:32 PDT Date: Fri, 8 Jul 2005 10:42:32 -0700 (PDT) From: steve lasiter To: FreeBSD-Questions@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <444qb5qs4c.fsf@be-well.ilk.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Cc: Subject: Re: DarwinStreamingServer problem X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 08 Jul 2005 17:42:35 -0000 Lowell, Maybe I'm missing something but that is where I was going and the only available code there is the DarwinStreamingSrvr5.5-Source.tar file and the others for Linux and OS X. I'm still unable to find any .zip file on the page. Did you find it? Dean --- Lowell Gilbert wrote: > steve lasiter writes: > > > "Please get DSS-v5_0_3_2.zip from > > > http://developer.apple.com/darwin/project/streaming/ > > And you must accept the APSL. Then, put in > > /usr/ports/distfiles/DDS-v5_0_3_2.zip" > > Add an "s" to "project". As in: > http://developer.apple.com/darwin/projects/streaming/ > ____________________________________________________ Sell on Yahoo! Auctions – no fees. Bid on great items. http://auctions.yahoo.com/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jul 8 18:29:06 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E7E8D16A41C for ; Fri, 8 Jul 2005 18:29:05 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jjvaughan@gmail.com) Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.198]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7D11743D49 for ; Fri, 8 Jul 2005 18:29:05 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jjvaughan@gmail.com) Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 68so482258wri for ; Fri, 08 Jul 2005 11:29:04 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; b=IFqNEfgUHYJl+kb36NfbkU2kyTI0048yWBBgTTrf0+CYr9wijMUWD3k6Aqu24tOaSdEFv6WJyO3zpw7h1VxT1jXIZdOAc296DAiBr5atcMD25I0fpZJ54F7UWVAHImSqjZ9IVYD+30D3BBb0KDhs+Ne+nbnXnIjdKP/7SCVhRL4= Received: by 10.54.26.56 with SMTP id 56mr1967950wrz; Fri, 08 Jul 2005 11:28:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.106.20 with HTTP; Fri, 8 Jul 2005 11:28:40 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Fri, 8 Jul 2005 14:28:40 -0400 From: John Vaughan To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline Subject: Serial console only refreshes 1 line of text X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: John Vaughan List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 08 Jul 2005 18:29:06 -0000 I recently installed FreeBSD over serial on a GX280 (no PS/2 ports and ACPI conflicts using boot with usb keyboard option). After installing I changed my ttys to ttyd0 "/usr/libexec/getty std.9600" unknown on secure ttyd1 "/usr/libexec/getty std.9600" unknown off secure ... As talked about in the handbook 20.6.5.4 Getting a Login Prompt on the Serial Console When I finish the setup and reboot, I get the loader prompt where I select to boot with ACPI disabled. After which I get one line of text that refreshes itself. The other lines remain the same- showing the loader. Below is a screenshot of what I am getting. Though I am not completely new to FreeBSD, this is the first time I have had to rely on using the serial console to do anything. Is there something in my configuration that would be causing this problem? Thanks for the help, -John =DA=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4= =C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=BF =B3 =B3 =B3 =B3 , , =B3 =B3 /( )` =B3 Welcome to FreeBSD! =B3 \ \___ / | =B3 =B3 /- _ `-/ ' =B3 =B3 (/\/ \ \ /\ =B3 1. 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FreeBSD 5.4-RELEASE #0: Sun May 8 10:21:06 UTC 2005 Password:otrect4.255tion)tation)Password: (ttyd0)ednnecteal/libice4.255tion)tation) From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jul 8 19:43:25 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 404F116A41C for ; Fri, 8 Jul 2005 19:43:25 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from bryan.maynard@reallm.com) Received: from hosting.sourcit.net (mail3.eitsolutions.net [68.23.20.100]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B8EA743D45 for ; Fri, 8 Jul 2005 19:43:24 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from bryan.maynard@reallm.com) Received: (qmail 21447 invoked from network); 8 Jul 2005 14:43:20 -0500 Received: from al1-24.207.169.154.charter-stl.com (HELO ?192.168.1.100?) (24.207.169.154) by hosting.sourcit.net with SMTP; 8 Jul 2005 14:43:20 -0500 From: Bryan Maynard Organization: Sofos Nikitis To: FreeBSD Questions Date: Fri, 8 Jul 2005 14:42:22 +0000 User-Agent: KMail/1.8.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200507081442.24913.bryan.maynard@reallm.com> Subject: cdrom mount question X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 08 Jul 2005 19:43:25 -0000 I am not sure which list to post this to, I'll start here. :-) I am trying to play a CD through amaroK in KDE, but when I try to mount the disc I get the following error: cd9660: /dev/acdo: Operation not permitted I am not running as root when trying to access the device and I'm sure this is the problem. . . I just don't know how to fix it :-). Thanks for all your help! Bryan -- Open Source: by the people, for the people. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jul 8 19:43:40 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 94C4116A420 for ; Fri, 8 Jul 2005 19:43:40 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from bryan.maynard@reallm.com) Received: from hosting.sourcit.net (mail3.eitsolutions.net [68.23.20.100]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9EE9443D45 for ; Fri, 8 Jul 2005 19:43:39 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from bryan.maynard@reallm.com) Received: (qmail 19135 invoked from network); 8 Jul 2005 14:16:58 -0500 Received: from al1-24.207.169.154.charter-stl.com (HELO ?192.168.1.100?) (24.207.169.154) by hosting.sourcit.net with SMTP; 8 Jul 2005 14:16:58 -0500 From: Bryan Maynard Organization: Sofos Nikitis To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Fri, 8 Jul 2005 14:15:58 +0000 User-Agent: KMail/1.8.1 References: <200506292116.00205.bryan.maynard@reallm.com> <200507011629.48012.bryan.maynard@reallm.com> In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200507081416.02224.bryan.maynard@reallm.com> Subject: Re: Kernel question X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 08 Jul 2005 19:43:40 -0000 On Friday 01 July 2005 11:02 pm, Nikolas Britton wrote: > On 7/1/05, Bryan Maynard wrote: > > I read through your kernel - very nice comments, thanks a lot! > > > > I compiled the kernel and boot-up is noticably faster, thanks again! > > I would like to investigate transfering all the device info from boot -v > > to LATITUDE_C600.hints. I don't really know what most of the info from > > boot -v means, I'd like to work on figuring it out. Maybe you could help > > me learn and we could figure it out together? > > Any help you could give you be greatly appreciated! > > One thing of note: I don't have any sound. I've never had sound, but after > > booting with the new kernel I went into KDE's control panel and tested the > > sound system, but nothing came out. I didn't get any errors when it > > restarted the sound system so I'm not sure what's up. > Your using the wrong driver. the one you want is snd_maestro3. Add > this to your loader.conf file: > #sound_load="YES" #PCM Sound Support > #snd_driver_load="YES" # Loads every sound drivers it can find > snd_maestro3="YES" # Your driver > hw.snd.maxautovchans=4 #sets up up to 4 virtual audio channels on demand > #hw.snd.targetirqrate=36 # read the sound man page > #hint.pcm.0.buffersize="16384" #read the sound man page > After you do that reboot and retest it. first thing is to check dmesg. > dmesg|grep -i pcm and do the same for ess and maestro, you should see > that it was detected. also you should try > 'cat /dev/sndstat'. fire up X and well, anyways.... if everything is > working put the driver in the kernel config file and comment it out in > loader.conf. I'll see what I can do about your other questions later, > right now I need a smoke and have work to do. My sound is working now, thanks :-) My battery doesn't seem to be charging though. . . Everytime I boot dmesg tells me that my battery has a critically low charge. I do not know how to correct this. I just need my battery to work and I'll have a fully functional laptop! > > I've incuded the dmesg output from the new kernel boot in case you need to > > look at it along with my current CUSTOM.hints file (maybe it'll help. . . > > :-?) > > Anyway, thanks a lot for the new kernel, it works like a charm! > > Bryan > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" Thanks for all your help! Bryan -- Open Source: by the people, for the people. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jul 8 19:48:14 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1BAAF16A41C for ; Fri, 8 Jul 2005 19:48:14 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from alejandro@varnet.biz) Received: from relay02.pair.com (relay02.pair.com [209.68.5.16]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 966CC43D4C for ; Fri, 8 Jul 2005 19:48:13 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from alejandro@varnet.biz) Received: (qmail 65554 invoked from network); 8 Jul 2005 19:48:12 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO phobos.mars.bsd) (unknown) by unknown with SMTP; 8 Jul 2005 19:48:12 -0000 X-pair-Authenticated: 200.115.214.28 Date: Fri, 8 Jul 2005 16:50:10 -0300 From: Alejandro Pulver To: Bryan Maynard Message-ID: <20050708165010.0e128883@phobos.mars.bsd> In-Reply-To: <200507081442.24913.bryan.maynard@reallm.com> References: <200507081442.24913.bryan.maynard@reallm.com> X-Mailer: Sylpheed-Claws 1.0.4 (GTK+ 1.2.10; i386-portbld-freebsd5.4) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: cdrom mount question X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 08 Jul 2005 19:48:14 -0000 On Fri, 8 Jul 2005 14:42:22 +0000 Bryan Maynard wrote: > I am not sure which list to post this to, I'll start here. :-) I am > trying to play a CD through amaroK in KDE, but when I try to mount > the disc I get the following error: > > cd9660: /dev/acdo: Operation not permitted > > I am not running as root when trying to access the device and I'm sure > this is the problem. . . I just don't know how to fix it :-). > > Thanks for all your help! > > Bryan > -- > Open Source: by the people, for the people. Hello, The instructions to allow a normal user to mount devices is in the FAQ: http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/faq/disks.html#USER-FLOPPYMOUNT Best Regards, Ale From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jul 8 19:58:43 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AEEC716A41C for ; Fri, 8 Jul 2005 19:58:43 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from freebsd-questions-local@be-well.ilk.org) Received: from mail21.sea5.speakeasy.net (mail21.sea5.speakeasy.net [69.17.117.23]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 68F2043D46 for ; Fri, 8 Jul 2005 19:58:43 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from freebsd-questions-local@be-well.ilk.org) Received: (qmail 11271 invoked from network); 8 Jul 2005 19:58:42 -0000 Received: from dsl092-078-145.bos1.dsl.speakeasy.net (HELO be-well.ilk.org) ([66.92.78.145]) (envelope-sender ) by mail21.sea5.speakeasy.net (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for ; 8 Jul 2005 19:58:42 -0000 Received: by be-well.ilk.org (Postfix, from userid 1147) id 722112E; Fri, 8 Jul 2005 15:58:41 -0400 (EDT) Sender: lowell@be-well.ilk.org To: "Florian Hengstberger" To: FreeBSD mailinglist References: From: Lowell Gilbert Date: 08 Jul 2005 15:58:41 -0400 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <44fyupdq8e.fsf@be-well.ilk.org> Lines: 21 User-Agent: Gnus/5.09 (Gnus v5.9.0) Emacs/21.3 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Cc: Subject: Re: simple locate question X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: FreeBSD mailinglist List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 08 Jul 2005 19:58:43 -0000 "Florian Hengstberger" writes: > How to creata a second locate database for private use? > (mp3 database or so). > I have tried > $ locate -U dir_with_mp3s -o database.dtb > > Searching in this database doent work > $ locate -d database.dtb somesong.mp3 > gives no result. > The database exists and it looks ok, seems to be a simple > ascii format. > What am I doing wrong? > I guess its simple, isn't it! I don't know; the standard locate program doesn't take a -U option, and will give an error message accordingly if called the way you claim you did. Have you installed some other version of locate? To use the standard locate, you use the locate.updatedb(8) script, as the locate(1) manual will tell you. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jul 8 20:06:56 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: FreeBSD-Questions@FreeBSD.ORG Delivered-To: FreeBSD-Questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9851416A41F for ; Fri, 8 Jul 2005 20:06:56 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from freebsd-questions-local@be-well.ilk.org) Received: from mail21.sea5.speakeasy.net (mail21.sea5.speakeasy.net [69.17.117.23]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D34E643D48 for ; Fri, 8 Jul 2005 20:06:55 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from freebsd-questions-local@be-well.ilk.org) Received: (qmail 5249 invoked from network); 8 Jul 2005 20:06:55 -0000 Received: from dsl092-078-145.bos1.dsl.speakeasy.net (HELO be-well.ilk.org) ([66.92.78.145]) (envelope-sender ) by mail21.sea5.speakeasy.net (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for ; 8 Jul 2005 20:06:55 -0000 Received: by be-well.ilk.org (Postfix, from userid 1147) id D0F542E; Fri, 8 Jul 2005 16:06:54 -0400 (EDT) Sender: lowell@be-well.ilk.org To: steve lasiter To: FreeBSD-Questions@FreeBSD.ORG References: <20050708174232.73255.qmail@web33611.mail.mud.yahoo.com> From: Lowell Gilbert Date: 08 Jul 2005 16:06:54 -0400 In-Reply-To: <20050708174232.73255.qmail@web33611.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <447jg1dpup.fsf@be-well.ilk.org> Lines: 54 User-Agent: Gnus/5.09 (Gnus v5.9.0) Emacs/21.3 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=koi8-r Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: Subject: Re: DarwinStreamingServer problem X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: FreeBSD-Questions@FreeBSD.ORG List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 08 Jul 2005 20:06:56 -0000 Don't top-post, please. steve lasiter writes: > Lowell, >=20 > Maybe I'm missing something but that is where I was > going and the only available code there is the > DarwinStreamingSrvr5.5-Source.tar file and the others > for Linux and OS X. I'm still unable to find any .zip > file on the page. Did you find it? No, I stopped looking after I noticed your first mistake. I wasn't going to register with the license server in order to check it out for you.=20=20 It's possible that the port is outdated and should be updated to the latest release. I can't be sure without actually trying it. But if that is the case, then try talking to the port's maintainer. > Dean=20 >=20 > --- Lowell Gilbert > wrote: >=20 > > steve lasiter writes: > >=20 > > > "Please get DSS-v5_0_3_2.zip from > > > > > http://developer.apple.com/darwin/project/streaming/ > > > And you must accept the APSL. Then, put in > > > /usr/ports/distfiles/DDS-v5_0_3_2.zip" > >=20 > > Add an "s" to "project". As in: > > > http://developer.apple.com/darwin/projects/streaming/ > >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20=09=09 > ____________________________________________________ > Sell on Yahoo! Auctions =96 no fees. Bid on great items.=20=20 > http://auctions.yahoo.com/ > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.o= rg" >=20 --=20 Lowell Gilbert, embedded/networking software engineer, Boston area http://be-well.ilk.org/~lowell/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jul 8 20:19:56 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2FF0A16A41C for ; Fri, 8 Jul 2005 20:19:56 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jeremy@smart-serv.net) Received: from smart-serv.net (smart-serv.net [64.251.71.178]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A19F843D46 for ; Fri, 8 Jul 2005 20:19:55 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jeremy@smart-serv.net) Received: (qmail 44500 invoked by uid 0); 8 Jul 2005 20:19:55 -0000 Received: from 64.251.71.178 by smart-serv.net (envelope-from , uid 0) with qmail-scanner-1.25 (clamdscan: 0.83/839. spamassassin: 3.0.2. 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(@64.251.71.178) by smart-serv.net with SMTP; 8 Jul 2005 20:19:54 -0000 Message-ID: <42CEDFEE.1030107@smart-serv.net> Date: Fri, 08 Jul 2005 13:19:58 -0700 From: Jeremy Johnston Organization: SmartServ Hosting User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (X11/20050205) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: FreeBSD mailinglist References: <44fyupdq8e.fsf@be-well.ilk.org> In-Reply-To: <44fyupdq8e.fsf@be-well.ilk.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions-local@be-well.ilk.org, e0025265@student.tuwien.ac.at Subject: Re: simple locate question X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: jeremy@smart-serv.net List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 08 Jul 2005 20:19:56 -0000 Lowell Gilbert wrote: >"Florian Hengstberger" writes: > > > >>How to creata a second locate database for private use? >>(mp3 database or so). >>I have tried >>$ locate -U dir_with_mp3s -o database.dtb >> >>Searching in this database doent work >>$ locate -d database.dtb somesong.mp3 >>gives no result. >>The database exists and it looks ok, seems to be a simple >>ascii format. >>What am I doing wrong? >>I guess its simple, isn't it! >> >> > >I don't know; the standard locate program doesn't take a -U option, >and will give an error message accordingly if called the way you claim >you did. Have you installed some other version of locate? > >To use the standard locate, you use the locate.updatedb(8) script, as >the locate(1) manual will tell you. >_______________________________________________ >freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list >http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions >To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > > FCODES="database.dtb"; SEARCHPATHS="dir_with_mp3s"; export FCODES; export SEARCHPATHS; /usr/libexec/locate.updatedb then of course using locate -d database.dtb somefile -- Jeremy Johnston (President / Developer) SmartServ Hosting Email: jeremy@smart-serv.net Phone: 1-250-402-6634 Ext. 201 Cell: 1-250-402-9583 | 2504029583@msg.telus.com (150 Characters max) Fax: 1-250-402-6634 Toll Free: 1-866-702-2904 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jul 8 21:50:09 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CAA7316A41F for ; Fri, 8 Jul 2005 21:50:09 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from rsmith@xs4all.nl) Received: from smtp-vbr9.xs4all.nl (smtp-vbr9.xs4all.nl [194.109.24.29]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3546043D46 for ; Fri, 8 Jul 2005 21:50:09 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from rsmith@xs4all.nl) Received: from slackbox.xs4all.nl (slackbox.xs4all.nl [213.84.242.160]) by smtp-vbr9.xs4all.nl (8.13.3/8.13.3) with ESMTP id j68Lnx0H072350; Fri, 8 Jul 2005 23:49:59 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from rsmith@xs4all.nl) Received: by slackbox.xs4all.nl (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 24A216259; Fri, 8 Jul 2005 23:49:59 +0200 (CEST) Date: Fri, 8 Jul 2005 23:49:59 +0200 From: Roland Smith To: Bryan Maynard Message-ID: <20050708214959.GA54618@slackbox.xs4all.nl> Mail-Followup-To: Bryan Maynard , FreeBSD Questions References: <200507081442.24913.bryan.maynard@reallm.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="pWyiEgJYm5f9v55/" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <200507081442.24913.bryan.maynard@reallm.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i X-GPG-Fingerprint: 1A2B 477F 9970 BA3C 2914 B7CE 1277 EFB0 C321 A725 X-GPG-Key: http://www.xs4all.nl/~rsmith/pubkey.txt X-GPG-Notice: If this message is not signed, don't assume I sent it! X-Virus-Scanned: by XS4ALL Virus Scanner Cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: cdrom mount question X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 08 Jul 2005 21:50:09 -0000 --pWyiEgJYm5f9v55/ Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Fri, Jul 08, 2005 at 02:42:22PM +0000, Bryan Maynard wrote: > I am not sure which list to post this to, I'll start here. :-) I am > trying to play a CD through amaroK in KDE, but when I try to mount the > disc I get the following error: You don't have to mount a music CD. =20 > cd9660: /dev/acdo: Operation not permitted You do need permission to access the device though. As root, type 'chmod 666 /dev/acdo'. To keep this setting after reboot, add the following to /etc/devfs.conf: perm acd0 0666 Roland --=20 R.F.Smith (http://www.xs4all.nl/~rsmith/) Please send e-mail as plain text. public key: http://www.xs4all.nl/~rsmith/pubkey.txt --pWyiEgJYm5f9v55/ Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.1 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFCzvUHEnfvsMMhpyURAjmoAJ9oSajif9Dlox3bRdk5zTMvLhG9SACeMaO/ sqfR7ZJTOdvzwUP+EzXvFis= =UQ/E -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --pWyiEgJYm5f9v55/-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jul 8 22:39:46 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8FE1C16A41C for ; Fri, 8 Jul 2005 22:39:46 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ben@bjencks.net) Received: from bjencks.net (sub20-225.member.dsl-only.net [63.105.20.225]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id E31F043D55 for ; Fri, 8 Jul 2005 22:39:45 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ben@bjencks.net) Received: (qmail 9132 invoked from network); 8 Jul 2005 22:39:44 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO wagner.bjencks.net) (10.11.55.30) by bjencks.net with SMTP; 8 Jul 2005 22:39:44 -0000 Received: (from brj@localhost) by wagner.bjencks.net (8.13.4/8.13.4/Submit) id j68MdfYk000950; Fri, 8 Jul 2005 15:39:41 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ben@bjencks.net) X-Authentication-Warning: wagner.bjencks.net: brj set sender to ben@bjencks.net using -f To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: Ben Jencks Date: Fri, 08 Jul 2005 15:39:40 -0700 Message-ID: <86u0j4c47n.fsf@wagner.bjencks.net> User-Agent: Gnus/5.1006 (Gnus v5.10.6) Emacs/21.3 (berkeley-unix) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Subject: Suspend-to-disk resuming X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 08 Jul 2005 22:39:46 -0000 I'm trying to get suspend-to-disk (S4OS) working. (S3 doesn't work, but I'll worry about that later). When I run acpiconf -s 4, it appears to suspend ok. However, when I boot the computer, it just boots as normal, rather than resuming (it does complain about uncleanly unmounted disks). How do I tell the kernel to load a suspend-to-disk image rather than booting? I'm using the july snapshot of 6-CURRENT on a Thinkpad T43p. Thanks, Ben From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jul 8 22:48:44 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: questions@Freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5377516A41C for ; Fri, 8 Jul 2005 22:48:44 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from paulbeard@mac.com) Received: from smtpout.mac.com (smtpout.mac.com [17.250.248.83]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F36B343D46 for ; Fri, 8 Jul 2005 22:48:43 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from paulbeard@mac.com) Received: from mac.com (smtpin02-en2 [10.13.10.147]) by smtpout.mac.com (Xserve/8.12.11/smtpout07/MantshX 4.0) with ESMTP id j68Mmh9l015031 for ; Fri, 8 Jul 2005 15:48:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.2.8] (dsl001-134-183.sea1.dsl.speakeasy.net [72.1.134.183]) (authenticated bits=0) by mac.com (Xserve/smtpin02/MantshX 4.0) with ESMTP id j68MmgPv029148 for ; Fri, 8 Jul 2005 15:48:43 -0700 (PDT) Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v730) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed To: FreeBSD-questions From: paul beard Date: Fri, 8 Jul 2005 15:48:40 -0700 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.730) Cc: Subject: portupgrade error [cannot convert nil into String (PkgDB::DBError)] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 08 Jul 2005 22:48:44 -0000 I am having some problems with portupgrade. The error message is "/ usr/local/lib/ruby/site_ruby/1.8/pkgdb.rb:322:in `deorigin': " (more below). I see there have been isolated occurrences of this in June of 2003 and 2004, curiously, but I haven't found the solutions there to work. Removing the ports tree and re-fetching it, removing and rebuilding pkgdb, removing and reinstalling portupgrade/ruby, etc, even building a new kernel and world, seem ineffective. I'm still on 4.x (FreeBSD red.paulbeard.org 4.11-RELEASE-p11 FreeBSD 4.11-RELEASE-p11 #0: Tue Jul 5 10:46:00 PDT 2005 root@red.paulbeard.org:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/RED i386) if that helps. Please include me on replies as I am off the list. Thanks for any pointers. [/]# portsdb -Ufu Updating the ports index ... Generating INDEX.tmp - please wait..Warning: Duplicate INDEX entry: freeciv-gtk2-2.0.1_2 Warning: Duplicate INDEX entry: mod_frontpage2-5.0.2.2635 Warning: Duplicate INDEX entry: mod_jk2-apache2-2.0.2 Warning: Duplicate INDEX entry: mod_rpaf-ap2-0.5 Done. done [Updating the portsdb in /opt/ports ... - 13138 port entries found ......... 1000.........2000.........3000.........4000.........5000.........6000... ...... 7000.........8000.........9000.........10000.........11000.........12000 .........13000. ..... done] (root@red.paulbeard.org)-(03:34 PM / Fri Jul 08) [/]# portupgrade -avvv ---> Session started at: Fri, 08 Jul 2005 15:37:34 -0700 ---> Session ended at: Fri, 08 Jul 2005 15:37:56 -0700 (consumed 00:00:22) /usr/local/lib/ruby/site_ruby/1.8/pkgdb.rb:322:in `deorigin': from /usr/local/lib/ruby/site_ruby/1.8/pkgdb.rb:915:in `tsort_build' from /usr/local/lib/ruby/site_ruby/1.8/pkgdb.rb:914:in `each' from /usr/local/lib/ruby/site_ruby/1.8/pkgdb.rb:914:in `tsort_build' from /usr/local/lib/ruby/site_ruby/1.8/pkgdb.rb:906:in `each' from /usr/local/lib/ruby/site_ruby/1.8/pkgdb.rb:906:in `tsort_build' from /usr/local/lib/ruby/site_ruby/1.8/pkgdb.rb:928:in `sort_build' from /usr/local/lib/ruby/site_ruby/1.8/pkgdb.rb:932:in `sort_build!' from /usr/local/sbin/portupgrade:674:in `main' from /usr/local/sbin/portupgrade:207:in `initialize' from /usr/local/sbin/portupgrade:207:in `new' from /usr/local/sbin/portupgrade:207:in `main' from /usr/local/sbin/portupgrade:1869 -- Paul Beard contact info: www.paulbeard.org/paulbeard.vcf Are you trying to win an argument or solve a problem? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jul 8 22:54:08 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EA63416A41C for ; Fri, 8 Jul 2005 22:54:08 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from youshi10@u.washington.edu) Received: from mxout4.cac.washington.edu (mxout4.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.19]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A7CD143D49 for ; Fri, 8 Jul 2005 22:54:08 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from youshi10@u.washington.edu) Received: from smtp.washington.edu (smtp.washington.edu [140.142.32.139]) by mxout4.cac.washington.edu (8.13.4+UW05.04/8.13.4+UW05.05) with ESMTP id j68Ms7er006660 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=OK) for ; Fri, 8 Jul 2005 15:54:08 -0700 Received: from [128.208.4.242] (nilakantha.cs.washington.edu [128.208.4.242]) by smtp.washington.edu (8.13.4+UW05.04/8.13.4+UW05.05) with ESMTP id j68Ms74Z000642 for ; Fri, 8 Jul 2005 15:54:07 -0700 Message-ID: <42CF0410.3080904@u.washington.edu> Date: Fri, 08 Jul 2005 15:54:08 -0700 From: Garrett Cooper User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.2 (Windows/20050317) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: [Fwd: Re: cdrom mount question] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 08 Jul 2005 22:54:09 -0000 On Fri, 8 Jul 2005, Garrett Cooper wrote: Andreas Davour wrote: > On Fri, 8 Jul 2005, Bryan Maynard wrote: > >> >> I am not running as root when trying to access the device and I'm >> sure this is the problem. . . I just don't know how to fix it :-) . > > > I don't know if I used amaroK or whatever KDE player was in the menu, > but I just acted like the disc was mounted and it worked. It was a bit > strange, since I had tried hard to change the protection on the device > without getting it to work. Maybe the player ran setuid root or > something, and tried to do magic on its own. > > Have amaroK actually complained about the disc not being mounted? If > not, just try without mountinga and you might be lucky. Audio CDs shouldn't be mounted... If you try and do that you will most likely encounter issues with reading the CD. All that you would have to do most likely is change the permissions for the device to allow full read access to you on a user or group level (ie 0666, 0660 or equivalent). Modifying /etc/devfsd.conf to your liking is the best way to go to retain changes across boots. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jul 8 23:28:18 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E058916A41C; Fri, 8 Jul 2005 23:28:18 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from tyler@tamu.edu) Received: from smtp-relay.tamu.edu (smtp-relay.tamu.edu [165.91.143.199]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7058243D45; Fri, 8 Jul 2005 23:28:18 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from tyler@tamu.edu) Received: from [165.91.46.6] (tamulink-0006.vpn.tamu.edu [165.91.46.6]) by smtp-relay.tamu.edu (8.13.3/8.13.3) with ESMTP id j68NSFrb058966 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-SHA bits=128 verify=NO); Fri, 8 Jul 2005 18:28:16 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from tyler@tamu.edu) Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v730) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: <9A4DB033-3EF6-498F-8DF7-FD402C8E5D9C@tamu.edu> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: "R. Tyler Ballance" Date: Fri, 8 Jul 2005 18:28:19 -0500 To: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.730) Received-SPF: none (smtp-relay.tamu.edu: domain of tyler@tamu.edu does not designate permitted sender hosts) Cc: Murray Stokely , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Software patents and FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 08 Jul 2005 23:28:19 -0000 Howdy, i'll be meeting tuesday with staffers for my congressman (since he's still in D.C.) to discuss software patents and the "evil" behind them. I've got a new perspective on the troubles they can cause given my Summer of Code project which is licensed under the APSL (http:// www.opensource.apple.com/apsl/) (my project: http:// wikitest.freebsd.org/moin.cgi/launchd) What are some good points, on how software patents, could/have affected the FreeBSD project? I can make a case for how beneficial having something like FreeBSD has been for the I.T. industry, but i'd also like to be able to demonstrate the harm that software patents can cause to a large open source project like FreeBSD. Cheers, -R. Tyler Ballance From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jul 8 23:42:46 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 29E6916A43B for ; Fri, 8 Jul 2005 23:42:46 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from drcaesar@yahoo.com) Received: from web80601.mail.yahoo.com (web80601.mail.yahoo.com [66.218.79.90]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id CFF9E43D4C for ; Fri, 8 Jul 2005 23:42:43 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from drcaesar@yahoo.com) Received: (qmail 56129 invoked by uid 60001); 8 Jul 2005 23:42:43 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=LsGLZqklTqeIk9WDiAIwUAm4h0QakP/xVe4jSgsgBz/+TuIwM5LypdjdPNHYnQMfWuln7tp9ECLiP4e9IRfFQUH8bN3AUYfT0dADaAtebzids577wyzv3ZGTBL0awVEf2cCb+l471oOkT+hfLws7Yfm23LrBAUBloKvGdZheiDk= ; Message-ID: <20050708234243.56127.qmail@web80601.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [69.230.50.177] by web80601.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Fri, 08 Jul 2005 16:42:43 PDT Date: Fri, 8 Jul 2005 16:42:43 -0700 (PDT) From: Jake Kim To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: DSL setup X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 08 Jul 2005 23:42:46 -0000 I just installed FreeBSD 5.4 and am having problems setting up DSL. I followed the instructions in the handbook, but nothing worked. Do I have to configure something else other than ppp.conf? Thanks, Jake From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jul 9 01:36:02 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9BA1216A41F for ; Sat, 9 Jul 2005 01:36:02 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from sdbrown@glycine.annular.org) Received: from glycine.annular.org (glycine.annular.org [69.17.112.116]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 11BC643D45 for ; Sat, 9 Jul 2005 01:36:02 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from sdbrown@glycine.annular.org) Received: from glycine.annular.org (localhost.annular.org [127.0.0.1]) by glycine.annular.org (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id j691Zwho012008 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Fri, 8 Jul 2005 18:36:00 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from sdbrown@glycine.annular.org) Received: (from sdbrown@localhost) by glycine.annular.org (8.12.10/8.12.10/Submit) id j691ZwfO012007 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Fri, 8 Jul 2005 18:35:58 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from sdbrown) Date: Fri, 8 Jul 2005 18:35:58 -0700 From: Steve Brown To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20050709013558.GZ3895@glycine.annular.org> Mail-Followup-To: Steve Brown , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i Subject: dovecat-0.99.14 SSL option not present? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 09 Jul 2005 01:36:02 -0000 I am trying to get dovecat running on a FreeBSD-5.2.1 system with a nightly-updated ports tree. I am running into the problem that dovecat 0.99.14 is not compatible with GNUTLS at the moment, as document on this list previous to my joining: > # make config > > will allow you to redo your config choices and select SSL rather than > GNUTLS, support for which is broken in Dovecot itself ATM, thus in the > port also. However, when I run the config, I don't have the option to select SSL. My options are: GNUTLS, SASL2, VPOPMAIL, LDAP, PGSQL, and MYSQL. Any suggestions? Thanks, Steve B. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jul 9 01:48:21 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0A72D16A41C for ; Sat, 9 Jul 2005 01:48:21 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from george@n3gqf.net) Received: from sccrmhc11.comcast.net (sccrmhc11.comcast.net [204.127.202.55]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A48F043D49 for ; Sat, 9 Jul 2005 01:48:20 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from george@n3gqf.net) Received: from bsd.asgard.local (pcp0010945386pcs.reding01.pa.comcast.net[68.82.173.201]) by comcast.net (sccrmhc11) with ESMTP id <2005070901481901100ipm6ee>; Sat, 9 Jul 2005 01:48:19 +0000 Received: from [10.42.69.30] (gf-xp3200.asgard.local [10.42.69.30]) by bsd.asgard.local (8.13.3/8.13.1) with ESMTP id j691mgIn004790 for ; Fri, 8 Jul 2005 21:48:43 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from george@n3gqf.net) Message-ID: <42CF2CE2.60009@n3gqf.net> Date: Fri, 08 Jul 2005 21:48:18 -0400 From: George Fazio User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.2 (Windows/20050317) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: device.hints question X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 09 Jul 2005 01:48:21 -0000 I was installing apcupsd with an APC USB UPS, and found that I needed to disable the uhid driver. The instructions on the apcupsd site specifically say to recompile the kernel. But, I try to keep my kernel as generic as possible, so I tried entering the following line into the device.hints file. hint.uhid.0.disabled="1" This did not work, and I'm not sure if it's a syntax issue on my part, or if disabling this driver via device.hints is just not supported. I did a web search for information on device.hints and uhid, but did not find anything specific. Recompiling with a custom kernconf worked, and everything is up and running.. But, I'm interested in a little bit of background on why the device hint did not work. If anyone has a quick answer great. Like I said, everything is working, so it's not like I need an answer. But, I'm still fairly new to Unix and FreeBSD, and trying to learn the why behind how things work. So, any information would be helpful. Thanks a bunch, George From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jul 9 04:52:04 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1771C16A41C for ; Sat, 9 Jul 2005 04:52:04 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from northwind@vfemail.net) Received: from vfemail.net (miwi2dsl-a234.wi.tds.net [216.170.248.235]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 91C2243D46 for ; Sat, 9 Jul 2005 04:52:01 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from northwind@vfemail.net) Received: (qmail 49724 invoked by uid 85); 9 Jul 2005 04:51:57 -0000 Received: from northwind@vfemail.net by mail.vfemail.net by uid 0 with qmail-scanner-1.16 (clamscan: 0.75.1. spamassassin: 2.63. Clear:. Processed in 1.696884 secs); 09 Jul 2005 04:51:57 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO zardoz) (209.124.141.64) by miwi2dsl-a234.wi.tds.net with SMTP; 9 Jul 2005 04:51:55 -0000 Message-ID: <000301c58441$de1165f0$3802a8c0@zardoz> From: "Beecher Rintoul" To: Date: Fri, 8 Jul 2005 20:51:02 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2527 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2527 Subject: Problem with php5 configure. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 09 Jul 2005 04:52:04 -0000 I ran into a configure error while updating php5, I get the following: Configuring extensions checking whether to enable LIBXML support... yes checking libxml2 install dir... /usr/local checking whether libxml build works... no configure: error: build test failed. Please check the config.log for details. ===> Script "configure" failed unexpectedly. Please report the problem to ale@FreeBSD.org [maintainer] and attach the "/usr/ports/lang/php5/work/php-5.0.4/config.log" including the output of the failure of your make command. Also, it might be a good idea to provide an overview of all packages installed on your system (e.g. an `ls /var/db/pkg`). *** Error code 1 Configure Log: -lm -lxml2 -lz -liconv -lm 1>&5 /usr/local/lib/libxml2.so: undefined reference to `pthread_equal' collect2: ld returned 1 exit status configure: failed program was: #line 18580 "configure" #include "confdefs.h" char xmlInitParser(); int main() { xmlInitParser(); return 0; } The box is running yesterday's 5 stable. I have the latest libxml2 installed. I tried emailing the maintainer, but got no response. Anyone have a suggestion? Please cc me, I'm not subscribed to the list. TIA, Beech From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jul 9 08:41:41 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0718F16A41C for ; Sat, 9 Jul 2005 08:41:41 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from pgollucci@p6m7g8.com) Received: from piccollo.p6m7g8.net (c66-236-219-70.ip.panth.com [66.236.219.70]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9195743D46 for ; Sat, 9 Jul 2005 08:41:40 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from pgollucci@p6m7g8.com) Received: from [192.168.0.203] (pcp09579105pcs.rtchrd01.md.comcast.net [69.244.86.63]) (authenticated bits=0) by piccollo.p6m7g8.net (8.13.3/8.13.3) with ESMTP id j698fYFX028704 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-DSS-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Sat, 9 Jul 2005 04:41:36 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from pgollucci@p6m7g8.com) Message-ID: <42CF8DB8.1050006@p6m7g8.com> Date: Sat, 09 Jul 2005 04:41:28 -0400 From: "Philip M. Gollucci" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.2 (X11/20050404) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: 'BSD' make vs gmake on FBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 09 Jul 2005 08:41:41 -0000 Hi, In libapreq2, FreeBSD users must use gmake mainly because of only 2 makefile rules like the following: %.html: $(POD_DIR)/%.pm What's the easiest way to duplicate this behavior under (F)BSD make ? Thanks. -- END ------------------------------------------------------------ What doesn't kill us can only make us stronger. Nothing is impossible. Philip M. Gollucci (pgollucci@p6m7g8.com) 301.254.5198 Consultant / http://p6m7g8.net/Resume/resume.shtml Senior Developer / Liquidity Services, Inc. http://www.liquidityservicesinc.com http://www.liquidation.com http://www.uksurplus.com http://www.govliquidation.com http://www.gowholesale.com From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jul 9 10:16:31 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 943A616A41C for ; Sat, 9 Jul 2005 10:16:31 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from kingtutankhamen@hotmail.com) Received: from hotmail.com (bay108-f14.bay108.hotmail.com [65.54.162.24]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6A84843D45 for ; Sat, 9 Jul 2005 10:16:31 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from kingtutankhamen@hotmail.com) Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Sat, 9 Jul 2005 03:16:31 -0700 Message-ID: Received: from 65.54.162.200 by by108fd.bay108.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Sat, 09 Jul 2005 10:16:31 GMT X-Originating-IP: [65.54.162.200] X-Originating-Email: [kingtutankhamen@hotmail.com] X-Sender: kingtutankhamen@hotmail.com From: "Supote Lee" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Sat, 09 Jul 2005 02:16:31 -0800 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed X-OriginalArrivalTime: 09 Jul 2005 10:16:31.0639 (UTC) FILETIME=[46F16A70:01C5846F] Subject: What OID for this? SNMP issue. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 09 Jul 2005 10:16:31 -0000 Hi, lists I'm currently implement SNMP (with port net-snmp) for a while. My question is what OID can I get for monitoring the CPU idle ( or CPU load) ? Using net-snmp-5.2.1. TIA pjn _________________________________________________________________ FREE pop-up blocking with the new MSN Toolbar – get it now! http://toolbar.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200415ave/direct/01/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jul 9 13:01:52 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: questions@Freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 350F016A41C for ; Sat, 9 Jul 2005 13:01:52 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from kris@obsecurity.org) Received: from obsecurity.dyndns.org (CPE0050040655c8-CM00111ae02aac.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com [69.194.102.232]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EDBF843D96 for ; Sat, 9 Jul 2005 13:01:08 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from kris@obsecurity.org) Received: by obsecurity.dyndns.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 9041D5130C; Sat, 9 Jul 2005 09:01:10 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sat, 9 Jul 2005 09:01:10 -0400 From: Kris Kennaway To: paul beard Message-ID: <20050709130109.GA76067@xor.obsecurity.org> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="6c2NcOVqGQ03X4Wi" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Cc: FreeBSD-questions Subject: Re: portupgrade error [cannot convert nil into String (PkgDB::DBError)] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 09 Jul 2005 13:01:52 -0000 --6c2NcOVqGQ03X4Wi Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Fri, Jul 08, 2005 at 03:48:40PM -0700, paul beard wrote: > I am having some problems with portupgrade. The error message is "/=20 > usr/local/lib/ruby/site_ruby/1.8/pkgdb.rb:322:in `deorigin': " (more =20 > below). I see there have been isolated occurrences of this in June of =20 > 2003 and 2004, curiously, but I haven't found the solutions there to =20 > work. Removing the ports tree and re-fetching it, removing and =20 > rebuilding pkgdb, removing and reinstalling portupgrade/ruby, etc, =20 > even building a new kernel and world, seem ineffective. Did you read /usr/ports/UPDATING? Kris --6c2NcOVqGQ03X4Wi Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.1 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFCz8qVWry0BWjoQKURAg+CAJ46yrkd6+5NEzRncT/YDTwPA80QwACgnDU6 E5EBKK+lMH9EukZKLW0ZjWw= =wdU2 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --6c2NcOVqGQ03X4Wi-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jul 9 13:06:14 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A1A0916A420 for ; Sat, 9 Jul 2005 13:06:14 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from carlo.matteotti@bluewin.ch) Received: from mail30.bluewin.ch (mail30.bluewin.ch [195.186.19.70]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 909C043EAB for ; Sat, 9 Jul 2005 13:04:04 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from carlo.matteotti@bluewin.ch) Received: from mssazhh-int.msg.bluewin.ch (172.21.1.191) by mail30.bluewin.ch (Bluewin 7.2.060.1) id 42C245930011E2B7 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sat, 9 Jul 2005 13:04:03 +0000 Received: from [172.21.1.219] by mssazhh-int.msg.bluewin.ch with HTTP; Sat, 9 Jul 2005 13:04:01 +0000 Date: Sat, 9 Jul 2005 13:04:01 +0000 Message-ID: <42BC91DC000499ED@mssazhh-int.msg.bluewin.ch> From: carlo.matteotti@bluewin.ch To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Mailer: Bluewin WebMail / BlueMail Subject: adding unused disk space for FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 09 Jul 2005 13:06:14 -0000 Hi all, I have a FreeBSD slice (/dev/ad4s3) on which my FreeBSD system lives and some unused free diskspace (resulting from deletion of another OS (no names :-))) on the harddisk. I'd like to use this free diskspace with FreeBSD. I was unable to figure out how to do that using 'fdisk and friends'. Any hint is sincerely appreciated . Carlo. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jul 9 13:36:11 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7547F16A41C for ; Sat, 9 Jul 2005 13:36:11 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from tim@hoganzoo.com) Received: from wolf.hoganzoo.com (wolf.hoganzoo.com [66.37.133.25]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 08C7743D45 for ; Sat, 9 Jul 2005 13:36:10 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from tim@hoganzoo.com) Received: from [10.1.1.10] (blackstar.hoganzoo.com [10.1.1.10]) by wolf.hoganzoo.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 13AD967252F for ; Sat, 9 Jul 2005 07:36:10 -0600 (MDT) Received: from 127.0.0.1 (AVG SMTP 7.0.323 [267.8.10]); Sat, 09 Jul 2005 07:36:14 -0600 Message-ID: <42CFD2CE.5040802@hoganzoo.com> Date: Sat, 09 Jul 2005 07:36:14 -0600 From: Tim Hogan User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.2 (Windows/20050317) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: FreeBSD Questions Content-Type: multipart/signed; protocol="application/x-pkcs7-signature"; micalg=sha1; boundary="------------ms080406030601060409050506" Subject: Port update failure -- How do I fix? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 09 Jul 2005 13:36:11 -0000 This is a cryptographically signed message in MIME format. --------------ms080406030601060409050506 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit So the bottom line is that I love the ports because I am by no means a programer. As long as I can type make install I am good to go. The problem is that I just tried to do an upgrade on some ports that were out of date and I am now getting the error below. A previous version was installed but now the new version will not install. How do I fix this? Thanks ahead of time for any help you can provide... Tim --- begin install output --- # /usr/ports/databases/p5-DBD-mysql $ make ===> Vulnerability check disabled, database not found => DBD-mysql-3.0001.tar.gz doesn't seem to exist in /usr/ports/distfiles/. => Attempting to fetch from ftp://ftp.funet.fi/pub/languages/perl/CPAN/modules/by-module/DBD/. DBD-mysql-3.0001.tar.gz 100% of 126 kB 67 kBps ===> Extracting for p5-DBD-mysql-3.0001 => Checksum OK for DBD-mysql-3.0001.tar.gz. ===> p5-DBD-mysql-3.0001 depends on file: /usr/local/bin/perl5.8.7 - found ===> Patching for p5-DBD-mysql-3.0001 ===> p5-DBD-mysql-3.0001 depends on file: /usr/local/bin/perl5.8.7 - found ===> p5-DBD-mysql-3.0001 depends on file: /usr/local/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.8.7/mach/DBI.pm - found ===> p5-DBD-mysql-3.0001 depends on file: /usr/local/bin/perl5.8.7 - found ===> p5-DBD-mysql-3.0001 depends on shared library: mysqlclient.12 - found ===> Configuring for p5-DBD-mysql-3.0001 I will use the following settings for compiling and testing: cflags (mysql_config) = -I/usr/local/include/mysql -O -pipe embedded (mysql_config) = libs (mysql_config) = -L/usr/local/lib/mysql -lmysqlclient -lz -lcrypt -lm mysql_config (guessed ) = mysql_config nocatchstderr (default ) = 0 nofoundrows (default ) = 0 ssl (guessed ) = 0 testdb (default ) = test testhost (default ) = testpassword (default ) = testsocket (default ) = testuser (default ) = To change these settings, see 'perl Makefile.PL --help' and 'perldoc INSTALL'. Checking if your kit is complete... Looks good Using DBI 1.48 (for perl 5.008007 on i386-freebsd-64int) installed in /usr/local/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.8.7/mach/auto/DBI/ Writing Makefile for DBD::mysql ===> Building for p5-DBD-mysql-3.0001 cp lib/DBD/mysql.pm blib/lib/DBD/mysql.pm cp lib/DBD/mysql/GetInfo.pm blib/lib/DBD/mysql/GetInfo.pm cp lib/Mysql.pm blib/lib/Mysql.pm cp lib/DBD/mysql/INSTALL.pod blib/lib/DBD/mysql/INSTALL.pod cp lib/Mysql/Statement.pm blib/lib/Mysql/Statement.pm cp lib/Bundle/DBD/mysql.pm blib/lib/Bundle/DBD/mysql.pm cc -c -I/usr/local/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.8.7/mach/auto/DBI/ -I/usr/local/include/mysql -O -pipe -DDBD_MYSQL_INSERT_ID_IS_GOOD -g -O -pipe -O -pipe -DVERSION=\"3.0001\" -DXS_VERSION=\"3.0001\" -DPIC -fPIC "-I/usr/local/lib/perl5/5.8.7/mach/CORE" dbdimp.c dbdimp.c: In function `mysql_db_FETCH_attrib': dbdimp.c:2035: warning: cast from pointer to integer of different size dbdimp.c: In function `mysql_st_fetch': dbdimp.c:2775: error: `MYSQL_BIND' undeclared (first use in this function) dbdimp.c:2775: error: (Each undeclared identifier is reported only once dbdimp.c:2775: error: for each function it appears in.) dbdimp.c: In function `mysql_st_FETCH_attrib': dbdimp.c:3416: warning: cast from pointer to integer of different size *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/ports/databases/p5-DBD-mysql/work/DBD-mysql-3.0001. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/ports/databases/p5-DBD-mysql. --- end install output --- --------------ms080406030601060409050506 Content-Type: application/x-pkcs7-signature; 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Sat, 9 Jul 2005 13:45:35 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from michaellouieloria@yahoo.com) Received: from web30303.mail.mud.yahoo.com (web30303.mail.mud.yahoo.com [68.142.200.96]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id A4A7D43D45 for ; Sat, 9 Jul 2005 13:45:34 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from michaellouieloria@yahoo.com) Received: (qmail 11811 invoked by uid 60001); 9 Jul 2005 13:45:34 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=ffTZNzKN9eY9w+OB7ve137o2b/V5MmyN/7RRDbGej1d4QE0F8t2FD4NI64a+4zls5Enw9WC98XCecFoTrT/MO3eHZlkNNfBZkeyYQclBot/9H76yD1vPaOfI7xk0AnYdspE2+UrdteAE/0epqwiIXr6ZzTQw3tEOHcaFW7HNjzI= ; Message-ID: <20050709134534.11809.qmail@web30303.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Received: from [203.213.222.119] by web30303.mail.mud.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sat, 09 Jul 2005 06:45:33 PDT Date: Sat, 9 Jul 2005 06:45:33 -0700 (PDT) From: Michael Louie Loria To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="0-237537887-1120916733=:10482" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Subject: WIPFW X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 09 Jul 2005 13:45:35 -0000 --0-237537887-1120916733=:10482 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-Id: Content-Disposition: inline I am about to test WIPFW, http://wipfw.sourceforge.net/ a MS Windows operable version of well-known IPFW for FreeBSD OS. I would like get some rules based on the ff. I will be using windows 2000 and XP Allow only UDP port 1794 for VPN usage and Folder sharing via VPN connection (NetBIOS). Thanks, Michael Louie Loria __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com --0-237537887-1120916733=:10482 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 Content-Description: 3412282408-signature.asc Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" LS0tLS1CRUdJTiBQR1AgU0lHTkFUVVJFLS0tLS0NCkNvbW1lbnQ6IEdQRyBQ dWJsaWMgS2V5OiBodHRwczovL3d3dy5iaWdsdW1iZXIuY29tL3gvd2ViP3Fz PTB4NEEyNTZFQzgNCkNvbW1lbnQ6IEdQRyBQdWJsaWMgS2V5OiBodHRwOi8v d3d3Lmxvcnp0ZWNoLmNvbS9HUEcudHh0DQpDb21tZW50OiBZYWhvbyBJRDog bWljaGFlbGxvdWllbG9yaWENCg0KaVFFVkF3VUJRdEEzVjdYQkhpMnkzandm QVFyVVl3Z0F2SVFDM0toZDlPV29tNHZZK2tTdDN4c2YyWDJFVWZyQg0KUDAv WE96c3lkOVc3TVh5VGY3VFQ4Y3Rvams4NjJBK09rRUZFcUhrUitwancwcmJa RmJuQnlwNVFsUDRsRm9uQw0KRFJSNVNpemViYXpIQXF3dWM3MmtJa0hHeUI4 WlM3VmFxaHV4Y1hjaEJ3R3RlN0NST3FDdjhtVkdmRXBrQ1ZaTw0KZEJGTlZD UUs4T0VHOUpDbDl2bnF2c3VLTlI1VXI0N2VkckFHcUIzYzFSVkwzKzgvbURG VTN5VURhSWVaQjJSYg0KcDFqdVpGSnhWZ253bWtmd0NXWU1sVjNvRWNzaUY2 djcrZ3JxR20zUHd1ZzUyalRtMXArbjZzbWxIbUZJOUJCYQ0KN0F2S0tlZ0FI TDNPVXc4MTE5K3ZENkJBRVdLUFczV1MzNmhyc2M3WDB0NGlXVVF1eG5PT1Bn PT0NCj1Nd2tuDQotLS0tLUVORCBQR1AgU0lHTkFUVVJFLS0tLS0NCg0KLS0t LS0tLS0tLS0tLS1lbmlnNjY5MURDODUxRTA0RUQ1MDAxRDE2ODdGLS0= --0-237537887-1120916733=:10482-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jul 9 14:32:56 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 12F9D16A41C for ; Sat, 9 Jul 2005 14:32:56 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from fbsd_user@a1poweruser.com) Received: from mta11.adelphia.net (mta11.adelphia.net [68.168.78.205]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A216D43D45 for ; Sat, 9 Jul 2005 14:32:53 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from fbsd_user@a1poweruser.com) Received: from barbish ([69.172.31.81]) by mta11.adelphia.net (InterMail vM.6.01.04.01 201-2131-118-101-20041129) with SMTP id <20050709143252.QUHZ24042.mta11.adelphia.net@barbish>; Sat, 9 Jul 2005 10:32:52 -0400 From: "fbsd_user" To: "Michael Louie Loria" , Date: Sat, 9 Jul 2005 10:32:49 -0400 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.6604 (9.0.2911.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1409 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <20050709134534.11809.qmail@web30303.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Cc: Subject: RE: WIPFW X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: fbsd_user@a1poweruser.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 09 Jul 2005 14:32:56 -0000 Read the IPFW firewall section of the FreeBSD online handbook it includes a working example of rules to can modify for your own use. -----Original Message----- From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org [mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]On Behalf Of Michael Louie Loria Sent: Saturday, July 09, 2005 9:46 AM To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: WIPFW I am about to test WIPFW, http://wipfw.sourceforge.net/ a MS Windows operable version of well-known IPFW for FreeBSD OS. I would like get some rules based on the ff. I will be using windows 2000 and XP Allow only UDP port 1794 for VPN usage and Folder sharing via VPN connection (NetBIOS). Thanks, Michael Louie Loria __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jul 9 14:51:48 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8DD0216A41F for ; Sat, 9 Jul 2005 14:51:48 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ean@hedron.org) Received: from prosporo.hedron.org (hedron.org [66.11.182.60]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3FBBE43D45 for ; Sat, 9 Jul 2005 14:51:48 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ean@hedron.org) Received: from localhost.hedron.org (localhost.hedron.org [127.0.0.1]) by prosporo.hedron.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6CD5AC139 for ; Sat, 9 Jul 2005 10:52:21 -0400 (EDT) From: Ean Kingston To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Sat, 9 Jul 2005 10:52:20 -0400 User-Agent: KMail/1.8 References: <42BC91DC000499ED@mssazhh-int.msg.bluewin.ch> In-Reply-To: <42BC91DC000499ED@mssazhh-int.msg.bluewin.ch> X-Face: W{mkf[fd1042ubL1FZ(CABIMzn~rdu<:SW\^LF_RB' Subject: Re: adding unused disk space for FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 09 Jul 2005 14:51:48 -0000 On July 9, 2005 09:04 am, carlo.matteotti@bluewin.ch wrote: > Hi all, > I have a FreeBSD slice (/dev/ad4s3) on which my FreeBSD system lives and > some unused free diskspace (resulting from deletion of another OS (no names > > :-))) on the harddisk. I'd like to use this free diskspace with FreeBSD. > > I was unable to figure out how to do that using 'fdisk and friends'. You can do it on the command line with fdisk, bsdlabel, and newfs. It is a bit easier to explain using sysinstall so, here is the sysinstall way: #/stand/sysinstall Configure->Fdisk->(select the disk)->(select the unused slice)->T(to change type to FreeBSD)->W(to save the changes)... Label->choose the disk and start creating partitions->be sure to make the new slices for newfs -- Ean Kingston E-Mail: ean AT hedron DOT org URL: http://www.hedron.org/ I am currently looking for work. If you need competent system/network administration please feel free to contact me directly. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jul 9 15:04:49 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AEC7C16A41F for ; Sat, 9 Jul 2005 15:04:49 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ymr8-cg@lycos.com) Received: from webmail-outgoing.us4.outblaze.com (webmail-outgoing.us4.outblaze.com [205.158.62.67]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2B07143D46 for ; Sat, 9 Jul 2005 15:04:49 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ymr8-cg@lycos.com) Received: from unknown (unknown [192.168.9.180]) by webmail-outgoing.us4.outblaze.com (Postfix) with QMQP id BBDC018001BF for ; Sat, 9 Jul 2005 15:04:48 +0000 (GMT) X-OB-Received: from unknown (208.36.123.33) by wfilter.us4.outblaze.com; 9 Jul 2005 15:04:48 -0000 Received: by ws7-4.us4.outblaze.com (Postfix, from userid 1001) id AE276CA07F; Sat, 9 Jul 2005 15:04:48 +0000 (GMT) Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: from [68.18.77.159] by ws7-4.us4.outblaze.com with http for ymr8-cg@lycos.com; Sat, 09 Jul 2005 10:04:48 -0500 From: "Ab Normal" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Sat, 09 Jul 2005 10:04:48 -0500 X-Originating-Ip: 68.18.77.159 X-Originating-Server: ws7-4.us4.outblaze.com Message-Id: <20050709150448.AE276CA07F@ws7-4.us4.outblaze.com> Subject: 6.0-SNAP005: pptpclient; mpd/ng; pf; tcpdrop; vidcontrol/saver; gbde/md X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 09 Jul 2005 15:04:49 -0000 I've installed FreeBSD 6.0-CURRENT-SNAP005 (i386) on my stand-alone home computer, which connects to the internet via adsl. Being no expert, I don't presume to characterize the following observations as "bugs" (except, perhaps, with regard to tcpdrop), but I wonder if anyone else has experienced any of the same things. 1. In the past, using FreeBSD 4.9 and 4.10, I connected to my dsl modem/router using pptpclient. With pptpclient on 6.0, however, I noticed that download speed from the internet was very slow -- only about 20 percent of the rate I was accustomed to. A check with top revealed that pptp was utilizing 85 percent of the CPU. I recall seeing a lock-order-reversal message on a couple of occasions. (See the log excerpt below.) 2. I installed mpd to replace pptpclient. Downloading is fast again and CPU usage is back to normal, but I notice a couple of minor quirks.=20 The first time after boot that I run my script to bring up the NIC (I don't bring up the NIC on boot) and to launch mpd, no connection occurs. On the second try it works, but I get the following message on standard error: "WARNING: attempt to net_add_domain(netgraph) after domainfinalize()." The warning is not repeated on subsequent connects.=20 I assume it is related to the loading of various ng modules. 3. I'm using pf with 6.0. When I kill (-SIGTERM) mpd to disconnect from the internet, and before I bring down the NIC, the following error message is returned: "pf_test6: kif =3D=3D NULL, if_xname ng0." It appears that pf is bothered by the disappearance of the ng0 interface. 4. After disconnecting from the internet I often have "stuck" tcp4 connections (perhaps due in part to my severe firewall rules). Thinking to remedy this little annoyance with tcpdrop. I created a perl script to parse the output of "netstat -n - f inet" and to call tcpdrop for each inet connection except the NIC-to-modem connection. I've tried running the script before and (mostly) after killing mpd. Sometimes it actually works, but most times tcpdrop triggers a kernel panic and auto reboot. I suspect that the differing results might be related to the state of the connection(s), or to the number of them. Maybe it's safe to dub this phenomenon a "bug" in view of the panic and reboot, even if I'm doing something wrong. 5. I do a lot of work (or at least activity) from the console, and enjoy the new VESA graphics console features. I compiled VESA and SC_PIXEL_MODE into the kernel, and it works fine with my Radeon 7000 card -- except that the screen blanker does not blank the screen. The cursor disappears, but otherwise the display persists. I suppose this may be a necessary consequence of using graphics mode.=20 6. Having used the vnconfig utility and the vncrypt port in FreeBSD 4.x to create file-backed encrypted devices, I applied an analogous procedure using mdconfig and gbde in 6.0. Although it works, processing of the encrypted file system seems quite sluggish with gbde compared to vncrypt. (I do realize that encryption entails overhead, and that gbde seems designed primarily for use with disks rather than files.) By the way, informationally, the recent zlib patch for FreeBSD 5.x would appear to work on 6.0. I actually did the one-line edit to inftrees.c manually rather than running patch, but it was the same line with the same line number employed by the patch. I also ran find-zlib, which indicates that zlib 1.2.2 is statically linked in a few system files -- eg., libstand.a, pxeboot, and loader (shouldn't do much harm there!).=20 It's also statically linked, I think, in Opera 8.01, which could be dangerous. Log excerpt: one of the LORs with pptpclient -- Jul 3 23:32:55 localhost pptp[709]: anon log[ctrlp_disp:pptp_ctrl.c:880]: Outgoing call established (call ID 0, peer's call ID=20 0). Jul 3 23:32:58 localhost kernel: lock order reversal Jul 3 23:32:58 localhost kernel: 1st 0xc1b34270 rtentry (rtentry) @ /usr/src/sys/net/rtsock.c:434 Jul 3 23:32:58 localhost kernel: 2nd 0xc19ba77c radix node head (radix node head) @ /usr/src/sys/net/route.c:148 Jul 3 23:32:58 localhost kernel: KDB: stack backtrace: Jul 3 23:32:58 localhost kernel: kdb_backtrace(0,ffffffff,c09293f0,c0929418,c08b3b64) at kdb_backtrace+0x29 Jul 3 23:32:58 localhost kernel: witness_checkorder(c19ba77c,9,c085a11c,94) at witness_checkorder+0x564 Jul 3 23:32:58 localhost kernel: _mtx_lock_flags(c19ba77c,0,c085a11c,94,7) at _mtx_lock_flags+0x5b Jul 3 23:32:58 localhost kernel: rtalloc1(c1d39c78,0,0,d745ab3c,0) at rtalloc1+0x61 Jul 3 23:32:58 localhost kernel: ifa_ifwithroute(801,c1d39c5c,c1d39c78,c1b34270,c19ba700) at ifa_ifwithroute+0x68 Jul 3 23:32:58 localhost kernel: rt_getifa(d745ab3c,0,c1b34210,c1d39c00,c091f680) at rt_getifa+0xa6 Jul 3 23:32:58 localhost kernel: route_output(c1a39400,c1b316f4,a0,c1a39400,1f60) at route_output+0x5c5 Jul 3 23:32:58 localhost kernel: raw_usend(c1b316f4,0,c1a39400,0,0,c1a47300) at raw_usend+0x60 Jul 3 23:32:58 localhost kernel: rts_send(c1b316f4,0,c1a39400,0,0) at rts_send+0x1b Jul 3 23:32:58 localhost kernel: sosend(c1b316f4,0,d745ac78,c1a39400,0) at sosend+0x5e3 Jul 3 23:32:58 localhost kernel: soo_write(c1a78240,d745ac78,c1b57a00,0,c1a47300) at soo_write+0x46 Jul 3 23:32:58 localhost kernel: dofilewrite(c1a47300,c1a78240,1,bfbfddb0,a0) at dofilewrite+0xa8 Jul 3 23:32:58 localhost kernel: write(c1a47300,d745ad04,3,1f,202) at write+0x39 Jul 3 23:32:58 localhost kernel: syscall(3b,3b,3b,bfbfddb0,a0) at syscall+0x22f Jul 3 23:32:58 localhost kernel: Xint0x80_syscall() at Xint0x80_syscall+0x1f Jul 3 23:32:58 localhost kernel: --- syscall (4, FreeBSD ELF32, write), eip =3D 0x28253627, esp =3D 0xbfbfdd6c, ebp =3D 0xbfbfdd98 -- - Jul 3 23:32:58 localhost ppp[706]: tun0: Warning: ff02:4::/32: Change route failed: errno: Network is unreachable Jul 3 23:33:24 localhost pptp[710]: anon log[decaps_gre:pptp_gre.c:404]: accepting packet 88 (expecting 87, lost or reordered) -- A Happy User :) . --=20 _______________________________________________ NEW! 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The only place to search multiple dating sites at= once. http://datingsearch.lycos.com From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jul 9 15:38:38 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0B55316A41C for ; Sat, 9 Jul 2005 15:38:38 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from freebsd-questions-local@be-well.ilk.org) Received: from mail22.sea5.speakeasy.net (mail22.sea5.speakeasy.net [69.17.117.24]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BEF3543D46 for ; Sat, 9 Jul 2005 15:38:37 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from freebsd-questions-local@be-well.ilk.org) Received: (qmail 6033 invoked from network); 9 Jul 2005 15:38:37 -0000 Received: from dsl092-078-145.bos1.dsl.speakeasy.net (HELO be-well.ilk.org) ([66.92.78.145]) (envelope-sender ) by mail22.sea5.speakeasy.net (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for ; 9 Jul 2005 15:38:37 -0000 Received: by be-well.ilk.org (Postfix, from userid 1147) id 5EAE925; Sat, 9 Jul 2005 11:38:35 -0400 (EDT) Sender: lowell@be-well.ilk.org To: Jake Kim References: <20050708234243.56127.qmail@web80601.mail.yahoo.com> From: Lowell Gilbert Date: 09 Jul 2005 11:38:34 -0400 In-Reply-To: <20050708234243.56127.qmail@web80601.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <44ll4gkn0l.fsf@be-well.ilk.org> Lines: 12 User-Agent: Gnus/5.09 (Gnus v5.9.0) Emacs/21.3 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: DSL setup X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 09 Jul 2005 15:38:38 -0000 Jake Kim writes: > I just installed FreeBSD 5.4 and am having problems setting up DSL. > I followed the instructions in the handbook, but nothing worked. > Do I have to configure something else other than ppp.conf? Let's back up a step first. Does your DSL setup *use* PPP? [Mine doesn't.] -- Lowell Gilbert, embedded/networking software engineer, Boston area http://be-well.ilk.org/~lowell/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jul 9 15:53:14 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: questions@Freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 53D5E16A41C for ; Sat, 9 Jul 2005 15:53:14 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from paulbeard@mac.com) Received: from smtpout.mac.com (smtpout.mac.com [17.250.248.88]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 09E5543D48 for ; Sat, 9 Jul 2005 15:53:13 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from paulbeard@mac.com) Received: from mac.com (smtpin01-en2 [10.13.10.146]) by smtpout.mac.com (Xserve/8.12.11/smtpout01/MantshX 4.0) with ESMTP id j69FrDPm023673; Sat, 9 Jul 2005 08:53:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.2.8] (dsl001-134-183.sea1.dsl.speakeasy.net [72.1.134.183]) (authenticated bits=0) by mac.com (Xserve/smtpin01/MantshX 4.0) with ESMTP id j69FrBua021608; Sat, 9 Jul 2005 08:53:12 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <20050709130109.GA76067@xor.obsecurity.org> References: <20050709130109.GA76067@xor.obsecurity.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v730) Message-Id: <58B69D6B-7F79-41BB-861D-97863B994400@mac.com> From: paul beard Date: Sat, 9 Jul 2005 08:53:10 -0700 To: Kris Kennaway X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.730) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: FreeBSD-questions Subject: Re: portupgrade error [cannot convert nil into String (PkgDB::DBError)] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 09 Jul 2005 15:53:14 -0000 On Jul 9, 2005, at 6:01 AM, Kris Kennaway wrote: > Did you read /usr/ports/UPDATING? > The last change I found mentioned the use of libc and the PORTSDB_DRIVER. I made that change ages ago and have tried the other variants to get around this. -- Paul Beard contact info: www.paulbeard.org/paulbeard.vcf Are you trying to win an argument or solve a problem? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jul 9 15:53:56 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E7DEF16A41C for ; Sat, 9 Jul 2005 15:53:56 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from 4711@chello.at) Received: from chello084114137224.1.15.vie.surfer.at (chello084114137224.1.15.vie.surfer.at [84.114.137.224]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id EDCB843D48 for ; Sat, 9 Jul 2005 15:53:55 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from 4711@chello.at) Received: (qmail 18910 invoked from network); 9 Jul 2005 15:53:53 -0000 Received: from www.matrix.net (HELO localhost) (192.168.123.10) by ftp.matrix.net with SMTP; 9 Jul 2005 15:53:53 -0000 From: Christian Hiris <4711@chello.at> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Sat, 9 Jul 2005 17:53:36 +0200 User-Agent: KMail/1.8 References: <42BC91DC000499ED@mssazhh-int.msg.bluewin.ch> <200507091052.20645.ean@hedron.org> In-Reply-To: <200507091052.20645.ean@hedron.org> X-Face: 9K^F42eGrHAbAe?%/Jn(.sAeg9d{Ur6`x<[+LZ46Plx#sTFr]9_>|#(?~v6X,=?utf-8?q?2=7EBeL=23=3A7kxV8=23s=3BUP=0A=09=7C?=>X.=B,VvQ"}!^Zb}AGD:Um.+; P=%U6W Cc: Ean Kingston Subject: Re: adding unused disk space for FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 09 Jul 2005 15:53:57 -0000 --nextPart7951085.9hO9jv5ilj Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline On Saturday 09 July 2005 16:52:16, Ean Kingston wrote: > On July 9, 2005 09:04 am, carlo.matteotti@bluewin.ch wrote: > > Hi all, > > I have a FreeBSD slice (/dev/ad4s3) on which my FreeBSD system lives and > > some unused free diskspace (resulting from deletion of another OS (no > > names > > > > :-))) on the harddisk. I'd like to use this free diskspace with FreeBSD. > > > > I was unable to figure out how to do that using 'fdisk and friends'. > > You can do it on the command line with fdisk, bsdlabel, and newfs. It is a > bit easier to explain using sysinstall so, here is the sysinstall way: > > #/stand/sysinstall On newer 5.x systems you may want to use /usr/sbin/sysinstall instead=20 of /sbin/sysinstall. Cheers, ch =2D-=20 Christian Hiris <4711@chello.at> | OpenPGP KeyID 0x3BCA53BE=20 OpenPGP-Key at hkp://wwwkeys.eu.pgp.net and http://pgp.mit.edu --nextPart7951085.9hO9jv5ilj Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.1 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQBCz/MQ09WjGjvKU74RAqqcAJ9EembsCAT46C0BJIOKSXJ/bjopPQCePt8q of0pVpjBNzYcbgw9b8RhH2M= =OLyA -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --nextPart7951085.9hO9jv5ilj-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jul 9 16:14:05 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 57C2316A41C for ; Sat, 9 Jul 2005 16:14:05 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from cswiger@mac.com) Received: from pi.codefab.com (pi.codefab.com [199.103.21.227]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C14BA43D46 for ; Sat, 9 Jul 2005 16:14:04 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from cswiger@mac.com) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pi.codefab.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E12FE5D62; Sat, 9 Jul 2005 12:14:03 -0400 (EDT) Received: from pi.codefab.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (pi.codefab.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 54959-02; Sat, 9 Jul 2005 12:13:54 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [192.168.1.3] (pool-68-161-54-113.ny325.east.verizon.net [68.161.54.113]) by pi.codefab.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5307A5C54; Sat, 9 Jul 2005 12:13:54 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <42CFF7C6.1010806@mac.com> Date: Sat, 09 Jul 2005 12:13:58 -0400 From: Chuck Swiger Organization: The Courts of Chaos User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.8) Gecko/20050511 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Philip M. Gollucci" References: <42CF8DB8.1050006@p6m7g8.com> In-Reply-To: <42CF8DB8.1050006@p6m7g8.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at codefab.com Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: 'BSD' make vs gmake on FBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 09 Jul 2005 16:14:05 -0000 Philip M. Gollucci wrote: > In libapreq2, FreeBSD users must use gmake mainly because of only 2 > makefile rules like the following: > > %.html: $(POD_DIR)/%.pm > > What's the easiest way to duplicate this behavior under (F)BSD make ? You could add .html and .pm to .SUFFIXES, and create a suffix rule which does whatever it takes to build the html from to pm files.... -- -Chuck From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jul 9 16:20:35 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 665A816A41C for ; Sat, 9 Jul 2005 16:20:35 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from cswiger@mac.com) Received: from pi.codefab.com (pi.codefab.com [199.103.21.227]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 113E343D46 for ; Sat, 9 Jul 2005 16:20:35 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from cswiger@mac.com) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pi.codefab.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 924EA5FA5; Sat, 9 Jul 2005 12:20:34 -0400 (EDT) Received: from pi.codefab.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (pi.codefab.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 54959-03; Sat, 9 Jul 2005 12:20:25 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [192.168.1.3] (pool-68-161-54-113.ny325.east.verizon.net [68.161.54.113]) by pi.codefab.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D65A55C51; Sat, 9 Jul 2005 12:20:24 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <42CFF94D.4050900@mac.com> Date: Sat, 09 Jul 2005 12:20:29 -0400 From: Chuck Swiger Organization: The Courts of Chaos User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.8) Gecko/20050511 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Tim Hogan References: <42CFD2CE.5040802@hoganzoo.com> In-Reply-To: <42CFD2CE.5040802@hoganzoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at codefab.com Cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: Port update failure -- How do I fix? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 09 Jul 2005 16:20:35 -0000 Tim Hogan wrote: > So the bottom line is that I love the ports because I am by no means a > programer. As long as I can type make install I am good to go. The > problem is that I just tried to do an upgrade on some ports that were > out of date and I am now getting the error below. A previous version > was installed but now the new version will not install. How do I fix > this? Thanks ahead of time for any help you can provide... The odds are that you will need to install /usr/ports/lang/perl5.8 and do a "use.perl port" in order to build many perl modules, since they expect a newer version of perl than what you seem to have. Look at /usr/ports/CHANGES for more help and suggestions on how to upgrade perl and dependant perl ports in a reasonable fashion. -- -Chuck PS: You should probably discuss port-related questions on From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jul 9 16:25:19 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 34D9B16A41C for ; Sat, 9 Jul 2005 16:25:19 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from elon@zwelf.in-dsl.de) Received: from zwelf.in-dsl.de (zwelf.in-dsl.de [217.197.85.214]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B626143D45 for ; Sat, 9 Jul 2005 16:25:18 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from elon@zwelf.in-dsl.de) Received: from elon by zwelf.in-dsl.de with local (Exim 4.20) id 1DrI8i-0000qC-O4; Sat, 09 Jul 2005 16:25:16 +0000 Date: Sat, 9 Jul 2005 18:25:16 +0200 From: Leon Messner To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20050709162516.GA2971@asterix.bsdserved.de> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, carlo.matteotti@bluewin.ch References: <42BC91DC000499ED@mssazhh-int.msg.bluewin.ch> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <42BC91DC000499ED@mssazhh-int.msg.bluewin.ch> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i Cc: carlo.matteotti@bluewin.ch Subject: Re: adding unused disk space for FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 09 Jul 2005 16:25:19 -0000 On Sat, Jul 09, 2005 at 01:04:01PM +0000, carlo.matteotti@bluewin.ch wrote: > Hi all, > I have a FreeBSD slice (/dev/ad4s3) on which my FreeBSD system lives and > some unused free diskspace (resulting from deletion of another OS (no names > :-))) on the harddisk. I'd like to use this free diskspace with FreeBSD. > I was unable to figure out how to do that using 'fdisk and friends'. > Hi, IMHO the fastest way is using either sysinstall or fdisk to delete the old "no names" slice and create a FreeBSD (type 165/0xA5) slice. After that you can create partition(s) within that new slice using disklabel/sysinstall. You should fsck the partition afterwards. Pay attention to your orig. FreeBSD slice while doing this and have a bootable rescue CD near you. HTH, Leon -- gnupg key ID: 9B820836 & Fingerprint: 6081 8F41 8FEC 0D69 DB98 F014 0FD4 B47D 9B82 0836 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jul 9 16:36:54 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0D3FB16A41C for ; Sat, 9 Jul 2005 16:36:54 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from lars@gmx.at) Received: from mail.gmx.net (pop.gmx.net [213.165.64.20]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 3773F43D46 for ; Sat, 9 Jul 2005 16:36:53 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from lars@gmx.at) Received: (qmail invoked by alias); 09 Jul 2005 16:36:51 -0000 Received: from 79.219.76.83.cust.bluewin.ch (EHLO [192.168.1.11]) [83.76.219.79] by mail.gmx.net (mp005) with SMTP; 09 Jul 2005 18:36:51 +0200 X-Authenticated: #912863 Message-ID: <42CFFD47.1050905@gmx.at> Date: Sat, 09 Jul 2005 18:37:27 +0200 From: lars User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.2 (X11/20050606) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <42BC91DC000499ED@mssazhh-int.msg.bluewin.ch> <200507091052.20645.ean@hedron.org> In-Reply-To: <200507091052.20645.ean@hedron.org> Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------060909080407020007090403" X-Y-GMX-Trusted: 0 Cc: Ean Kingston Subject: Re: adding unused disk space for FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 09 Jul 2005 16:36:54 -0000 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------060909080407020007090403 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On Saturday 09 July 2005 16:52:16, Ean Kingston wrote: > On July 9, 2005 09:04 am, carlo.matteotti@bluewin.ch wrote: > > Hi all, > > I have a FreeBSD slice (/dev/ad4s3) on which my FreeBSD system lives and > > some unused free diskspace (resulting from deletion of another OS (no > > names > > > > :-))) on the harddisk. I'd like to use this free diskspace with FreeBSD. > > > > I was unable to figure out how to do that using 'fdisk and friends'. > > You can do it on the command line with fdisk, bsdlabel, and newfs. It is a > bit easier to explain using sysinstall so, here is the sysinstall way: > > #/stand/sysinstall On newer 5.x systems you may want to use /usr/sbin/sysinstall instead of /sbin/sysinstall. Cheers, ch -- Christian Hiris <4711@chello.at> | OpenPGP KeyID 0x3BCA53BE OpenPGP-Key at hkp://wwwkeys.eu.pgp.net and http://pgp.mit.edu --------------060909080407020007090403 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="file:///tmp/nsmail.tmp" Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 Content-Disposition: inline; filename="file:///tmp/nsmail.tmp" LS0tLS1CRUdJTiBQR1AgU0lHTkFUVVJFLS0tLS0KVmVyc2lvbjogR251UEcgdjEuNC4xIChG cmVlQlNEKQoKaUQ4REJRQkN6L01RMDlXakdqdktVNzRSQXFxY0FKOUVlbWJzQ0FUNDZDMEJK SU9LU1hKL2Jqb3BQUUNlUHQ4cQpvZjBwVnBqQk56WWNiZ3c5YjhSaEgyTT0KPU9MeUEKLS0t LS1FTkQgUEdQIFNJR05BVFVSRS0tLS0tCgo= --------------060909080407020007090403-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jul 9 16:58:19 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3BBFC16A41C for ; Sat, 9 Jul 2005 16:58:19 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ean@hedron.org) Received: from prosporo.hedron.org (hedron.org [66.11.182.60]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DBDEF43D48 for ; Sat, 9 Jul 2005 16:58:18 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ean@hedron.org) Received: from localhost.hedron.org (localhost.hedron.org [127.0.0.1]) by prosporo.hedron.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7AE9AC139; Sat, 9 Jul 2005 12:58:54 -0400 (EDT) From: Ean Kingston To: carlo.matteotti@bluewin.ch, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Sat, 9 Jul 2005 12:58:53 -0400 User-Agent: KMail/1.8 References: <42BC91DC00049E40@mssazhh-int.msg.bluewin.ch> In-Reply-To: <42BC91DC00049E40@mssazhh-int.msg.bluewin.ch> X-Face: W{mkf[fd1042ubL1FZ(CABIMzn~rdu<:SW\^LF_RB' Cc: Subject: Re: adding unused disk space for FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 09 Jul 2005 16:58:19 -0000 On July 9, 2005 11:07 am, you wrote: > Thanks, Ean, for your reply. > I tried it as you proposed. > The problem is that when it comes to saving the changes the following > message pops up: 'ERROR: Unable to write data to disk ad4!' Did you run it as root? Please copy the list with your answer. > > Carlo. > > >-- Original-Nachricht -- > >From: Ean Kingston > >To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > >Date: Sat, 9 Jul 2005 10:52:20 -0400 > >Subject: Re: adding unused disk space for FreeBSD > > > >On July 9, 2005 09:04 am, carlo.matteotti@bluewin.ch wrote: > >> Hi all, > >> I have a FreeBSD slice (/dev/ad4s3) on which my FreeBSD system lives and > >> some unused free diskspace (resulting from deletion of another OS (no > > names > > >> :-))) on the harddisk. I'd like to use this free diskspace with FreeBSD. > >> > >> I was unable to figure out how to do that using 'fdisk and friends'. > > > >You can do it on the command line with fdisk, bsdlabel, and newfs. It is > >a bit > >easier to explain using sysinstall so, here is the sysinstall way: > > > >#/stand/sysinstall > > Configure->Fdisk->(select the disk)->(select the unused slice)->T(to > > change > > > >type to FreeBSD)->W(to save the changes)... > > Label->choose the disk and start creating partitions->be sure to make the > >new > >slices for newfs > > > >-- > >Ean Kingston > > > >E-Mail: ean AT hedron DOT org > >URL: http://www.hedron.org/ > >I am currently looking for work. If you need competent system/network > >administration please feel free to contact me directly. > >_______________________________________________ > >freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > >http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > >To unsubscribe, send any mail to > > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" -- Ean Kingston E-Mail: ean AT hedron DOT org URL: http://www.hedron.org/ I am currently looking for work. If you need competent system/network administration please feel free to contact me directly. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jul 9 18:31:26 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B040016A41C for ; Sat, 9 Jul 2005 18:31:26 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from dan@dan.emsphone.com) Received: from dan.emsphone.com (dan.emsphone.com [199.67.51.101]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4F44943D49 for ; Sat, 9 Jul 2005 18:31:26 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from dan@dan.emsphone.com) Received: (from dan@localhost) by dan.emsphone.com (8.13.1/8.13.3) id j69IVNQM062907; Sat, 9 Jul 2005 13:31:23 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from dan) Date: Sat, 9 Jul 2005 13:31:23 -0500 From: Dan Nelson To: Supote Lee Message-ID: <20050709183123.GA5116@dan.emsphone.com> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: X-OS: FreeBSD 5.4-STABLE X-message-flag: Outlook Error User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.9i Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: What OID for this? SNMP issue. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 09 Jul 2005 18:31:26 -0000 In the last episode (Jul 09), Supote Lee said: > I'm currently implement SNMP (with port net-snmp) for a while. My > question is what OID can I get for monitoring the CPU idle ( or CPU > load) ? > > Using net-snmp-5.2.1. The enterprises.ucdavis.systemStats tree has CPU usage values in both percentages and raw ticks. -- Dan Nelson dnelson@allantgroup.com From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jul 9 18:34:27 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5DE8516A41F for ; Sat, 9 Jul 2005 18:34:27 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from drcaesar@yahoo.com) Received: from web80605.mail.yahoo.com (web80605.mail.yahoo.com [66.218.79.94]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id E2EE243D5C for ; Sat, 9 Jul 2005 18:34:26 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from drcaesar@yahoo.com) Received: (qmail 98900 invoked by uid 60001); 9 Jul 2005 18:34:26 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=1/CQg9Gn/z4J1fCj8mwFxSv6NGoy4C0GJDlIfJyd9gvvLwrBv+Sv0gDz61DAqjkrUBl7bMnzmqNjexIsjILd99FyacjQcHqfqKVQfLf1+29rBx6+ausbpocBqDG+JX+NabZNyPmalNHT+XLD/XaIaW2sFD8s0MzUbithNEw0Wd8= ; Message-ID: <20050709183426.98898.qmail@web80605.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [69.230.83.53] by web80605.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sat, 09 Jul 2005 11:34:26 PDT Date: Sat, 9 Jul 2005 11:34:26 -0700 (PDT) From: Jake Kim To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <44ll4gkn0l.fsf@be-well.ilk.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: Re: DSL setup X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 09 Jul 2005 18:34:27 -0000 Thanks for a good point Lowell, How do I know if mine doesn't support PPP? I just thought it would use PPPoE because Windows XP uses PPPoE. Thanks, Jake Lowell Gilbert wrote: Jake Kim writes: > I just installed FreeBSD 5.4 and am having problems setting up DSL. > I followed the instructions in the handbook, but nothing worked. > Do I have to configure something else other than ppp.conf? Let's back up a step first. Does your DSL setup *use* PPP? [Mine doesn't.] -- Lowell Gilbert, embedded/networking software engineer, Boston area http://be-well.ilk.org/~lowell/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jul 9 19:12:05 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3309516A41C for ; Sat, 9 Jul 2005 19:12:05 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from bsd@bathnetworks.com) Received: from lmail.bathnetworks.co.uk (mail.bathnetworks.com [84.92.24.252]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4CD9F43D46 for ; Sat, 9 Jul 2005 19:12:03 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from bsd@bathnetworks.com) Received: (qmail 4315 invoked by uid 510); 9 Jul 2005 19:13:11 +0000 Received: from 84.92.24.252 by lmail.bathnetworks.co.uk (envelope-from , uid 508) with qmail-scanner-1.24-st-qms (clamdscan: 0.86.1/957. spamassassin: 3.0.2. perlscan: 1.24-st-qms. Clear:RC:0(84.92.24.252):SA:0(-1.8/5.0):. 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(bsd@bathnetworks.com@84.92.24.252) by lmail.bathnetworks.co.uk with SMTP; 9 Jul 2005 19:13:08 +0000 From: Robert Slade To: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" In-Reply-To: <20050709183426.98898.qmail@web80605.mail.yahoo.com> References: <20050709183426.98898.qmail@web80605.mail.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain Message-Id: <1120936388.2211.5.camel@lmail.bathnetworks.co.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Ximian Evolution 1.4.6 (1.4.6-2) Date: Sat, 09 Jul 2005 19:13:08 +0000 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: DSL setup X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 09 Jul 2005 19:12:05 -0000 On Sat, 2005-07-09 at 18:34, Jake Kim wrote: > Thanks for a good point Lowell, > > How do I know if mine doesn't support PPP? > I just thought it would use PPPoE because Windows XP uses PPPoE. > > Thanks, > > Jake > > Lowell Gilbert wrote: > Jake Kim writes: > > > I just installed FreeBSD 5.4 and am having problems setting up DSL. > > I followed the instructions in the handbook, but nothing worked. > > Do I have to configure something else other than ppp.conf? > > Let's back up a step first. Does your DSL setup *use* PPP? > [Mine doesn't.] Jake, We bottom post here. You need to find out what protocol your ISP uses ie ask them. BTW Widows XP supports more than PPPoE but is realy your modem that does the work. Chances are that your ISP (Pac Bell?) does use PPPoE but I maybe wrong. rob From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jul 9 20:00:00 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 56DB916A41C for ; Sat, 9 Jul 2005 20:00:00 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from bassers@gmail.com) Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.196]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E51AC43D4C for ; Sat, 9 Jul 2005 19:59:59 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from bassers@gmail.com) Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id i13so674500wra for ; Sat, 09 Jul 2005 12:59:59 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:mime-version:content-type; b=ex4adMhuQga4bLPrclQ4xfXdtLDrozBdAMm9sLgyghZdR5R70RNUMsk1MxoxHZJNIWZYqRzTUA8c62ekGT6OTYiORYJ6qwpJwYYZKSgGuhjRZJhEgouvu/kalkNi+KW2GTuUi5LGBWvst16cstnXmYvSyDhx1mrcRS8lL2pwovw= Received: by 10.54.44.7 with SMTP id r7mr2633361wrr; Sat, 09 Jul 2005 12:53:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.124.13 with HTTP; Sat, 9 Jul 2005 12:53:46 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <503e8b5805070912537f1125fc@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sat, 9 Jul 2005 21:53:46 +0200 From: Bas Essers To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: 5.4-REL random reboots X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Bas Essers List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 09 Jul 2005 20:00:00 -0000 Hi list I've read serveral earlier postings about random reboots and a lot of times= =20 the advice is to check the power supply. Could this be the power supply in the pc itself or is it more likely the=20 power supply of the wall outlet? The pc that's rebooting is brand new so i think the power supply in the pc= =20 would be sufficient for all the hardware inside. What i've tried in order to solve the rebooting problem: I've applied the patch for the tcp vulnerability as i thought maybe someone= =20 was exploiting that to cause a DoS but that didn't help. It seems as if the machine reboots everytime i do something cpu/memory=20 intensive, but it also reboots at random when it's 99-100% idle. I now want to monitor the temperature of the CPU, memory etc, which program= =20 would you suggest? I've run memtest for a couple of minutes but that didn't cause a crash. Thanks --=20 Met vriendelijke groet, Bas Essers From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jul 9 20:23:32 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3501416A41C for ; Sat, 9 Jul 2005 20:23:32 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from casey@phantombsd.org) Received: from phantombsd.org (dsl231-036-158.sea1.dsl.speakeasy.net [216.231.36.158]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CBC3843D49 for ; Sat, 9 Jul 2005 20:23:31 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from casey@phantombsd.org) Received: by phantombsd.org (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 7E47C102EF9; Sat, 9 Jul 2005 13:23:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: from tomcat.phantombsd.org (tomcat.phantombsd.org [192.168.1.6]) by phantombsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A04F1102DF5; Sat, 9 Jul 2005 13:23:30 -0700 (PDT) From: Casey Scott To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, Bas Essers Date: Sat, 9 Jul 2005 13:23:30 -0700 User-Agent: KMail/1.6.2 References: <503e8b5805070912537f1125fc@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <503e8b5805070912537f1125fc@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <200507091323.30453.casey@phantombsd.org> X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.0.4 (2005-06-05) on eagle.phantombsd.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.8 required=5.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED autolearn=failed version=3.0.4 Cc: Subject: Re: 5.4-REL random reboots X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 09 Jul 2005 20:23:32 -0000 You could try healthd. It will format its out as HTML so you can monitor via webpage if you want. I have had the same rebooting problem on my 5.4 box, and it doesn't seem to be temperature related. If anything, its seems related to either network load or the driver of the NICs I was using. I have since changed NICs, and it hasn't happened again. At this point, the verdict is still out though. Casey On Saturday 09 July 2005 12:53 pm, Bas Essers wrote: > Hi list > > I've read serveral earlier postings about random reboots and a lot of times > the advice is to check the power supply. > Could this be the power supply in the pc itself or is it more likely the > power supply of the wall outlet? > The pc that's rebooting is brand new so i think the power supply in the pc > would be sufficient for all the hardware inside. > > What i've tried in order to solve the rebooting problem: > I've applied the patch for the tcp vulnerability as i thought maybe someone > was exploiting that to cause a DoS but that didn't help. > > It seems as if the machine reboots everytime i do something cpu/memory > intensive, but it also reboots at random when it's 99-100% idle. > > I now want to monitor the temperature of the CPU, memory etc, which program > would you suggest? > I've run memtest for a couple of minutes but that didn't cause a crash. > > Thanks From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jul 9 21:19:20 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6441916A41C for ; Sat, 9 Jul 2005 21:19:20 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ymr8-cg@lycos.com) Received: from webmail-outgoing.us4.outblaze.com (webmail-outgoing.us4.outblaze.com [205.158.62.67]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F3BBB43D46 for ; Sat, 9 Jul 2005 21:19:19 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ymr8-cg@lycos.com) Received: from unknown (unknown [192.168.9.180]) by webmail-outgoing.us4.outblaze.com (Postfix) with QMQP id AAE3F180013E for ; Sat, 9 Jul 2005 21:19:19 +0000 (GMT) X-OB-Received: from unknown (208.36.123.34) by wfilter.us4.outblaze.com; 9 Jul 2005 21:19:19 -0000 Received: by ws7-5.us4.outblaze.com (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 9D4E7C6119; Sat, 9 Jul 2005 21:19:19 +0000 (GMT) Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: from [68.18.105.203] by ws7-5.us4.outblaze.com with http for ymr8-cg@lycos.com; Sat, 09 Jul 2005 16:19:19 -0500 From: "Ab Normal" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Sat, 09 Jul 2005 16:19:19 -0500 X-Originating-Ip: 68.18.105.203 X-Originating-Server: ws7-5.us4.outblaze.com Message-Id: <20050709211919.9D4E7C6119@ws7-5.us4.outblaze.com> Subject: Re: 6.0-SNAP005: pptpclient; mpd/ng; pf; tcpdrop; vidcontrol/saver; gbde/md X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 09 Jul 2005 21:19:20 -0000 I wrote: >1. In the past, using FreeBSD 4.9 and 4.10, I connected to my dsl >modem/router using pptpclient. With pptpclient on 6.0, however, I >noticed that download speed from the internet was very slow -- only >about 20 percent of the rate I was accustomed to. A check with top >revealed that pptp was utilizing 85 percent of the CPU. I recall seeing >a lock-order-reversal message on a couple of occasions. (See the log >excerpt below.) The LOR appears to be related to:=20 http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-net/2005-July/007834.html >3. I'm using pf with 6.0. When I kill (-SIGTERM) mpd to disconnect >from the internet, and before I bring down the NIC, the following error >message is returned: "pf_test6: kif =3D=3D NULL, if_xname ng0." It >appears that pf is bothered by the disappearance of the ng0 interface. This report was also anticipated: http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-pf/2005-July/001240.html Sorry for duplicating. While I'm at it, just one more thing... During shutdown of 6.0SNAP5 I always receive the message: "unmount of /devfs failed (BUSY)" or something quite similar to that. Seems harmless, though. -- A Happy User --=20 _______________________________________________ NEW! Lycos Dating Search. The only place to search multiple dating sites at= once. http://datingsearch.lycos.com From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jul 9 21:36:16 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E6BB116A41C for ; Sat, 9 Jul 2005 21:36:16 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from bassers@gmail.com) Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.196]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 58F5A43D48 for ; Sat, 9 Jul 2005 21:36:16 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from bassers@gmail.com) Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 37so128447wra for ; Sat, 09 Jul 2005 14:36:15 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=Uw6KgfAv31pfcaF6iH9lUJAsS9CfOfoNt77JvXvfytSuL3ExcSbOS6CGBCEuyZDPIZccwsNDHIiEuzmZlwetALccddugRyASjNxKlXVZJ8xZn9AFkIlg9X3pb6eCZThuyYFBvZKGPShQ78XplVtYqYqHOLJBWomgyon42fhhIjk= Received: by 10.54.25.38 with SMTP id 38mr2676309wry; Sat, 09 Jul 2005 14:36:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.124.13 with HTTP; Sat, 9 Jul 2005 14:36:15 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <503e8b5805070914362da0dba4@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sat, 9 Jul 2005 23:36:15 +0200 From: Bas Essers To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <200507091323.30453.casey@phantombsd.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 References: <503e8b5805070912537f1125fc@mail.gmail.com> <200507091323.30453.casey@phantombsd.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: Re: 5.4-REL random reboots X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Bas Essers List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 09 Jul 2005 21:36:17 -0000 thanks both I just came back from running memtest86 thru 3 passes and no error were=20 found. It seems to do a whole lot of different tests. The NIC idea sounds possible since the machine wouldn't reboot for some=20 hours when i set my 'external' interface to down. I can't do too many tests= =20 however because this rebooting must be killer for my harddisk... I will try= =20 another NIC. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jul 9 22:34:10 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ECFCF16A41C for ; Sat, 9 Jul 2005 22:34:10 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from kline@tao.thought.org) Received: from tao.thought.org (dsl231-043-140.sea1.dsl.speakeasy.net [216.231.43.140]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7C57843D45 for ; Sat, 9 Jul 2005 22:34:10 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from kline@tao.thought.org) Received: from tao.thought.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by tao.thought.org (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id j69MdNsN021137 for ; Sat, 9 Jul 2005 15:39:25 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kline@tao.thought.org) Received: (from kline@localhost) by tao.thought.org (8.13.1/8.13.1/Submit) id j69MdNSV021136 for freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG; Sat, 9 Jul 2005 15:39:23 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kline) Date: Sat, 9 Jul 2005 15:39:23 -0700 From: Gary Kline To: FreeBSD Mailing List Message-ID: <20050709223922.GA21110@thought.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i X-Organization: Thought Unlimited. Public service Unix since 1986. X-Of_Interest: Observing 18++ years of service to the Unix community Cc: Subject: can't find shared obj. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 09 Jul 2005 22:34:11 -0000 Okay, I give up. I have acroread5 built, I've rebuilt linux_base-8 several times; likewise with linuxplugins, and linuxflash* both 6 and 7. I am using the native FBSD ports of firefox and mozilla, but the flashplugin port doesn't work. Then I get the following: (Gecko:93514): Gdk-WARNING **: gdk_property_get(): length value has wrapped in calculation (did you pass G_MAXLONG?) LoadPlugin: failed to initialize shared library /usr/X11R6/lib/linux-mozilla/plugins/nphelix.so [Shared object "libstdc++.so.5" not found, required by "nphelix.so"] How do I fix this without using the linux- ports of firefox and mozilla? thanks much, gary -- Gary Kline kline@thought.org www.thought.org Public service Unix From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jul 9 23:30:58 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B63A716A41C for ; Sat, 9 Jul 2005 23:30:58 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from northg@shaw.ca) Received: from pd2mo3so.prod.shaw.ca (shawidc-mo1.cg.shawcable.net [24.71.223.10]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 202CA43D46 for ; Sat, 9 Jul 2005 23:30:57 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from northg@shaw.ca) Received: from pd4mr8so.prod.shaw.ca (pd4mr8so-qfe3.prod.shaw.ca [10.0.141.101]) by l-daemon (Sun ONE Messaging Server 6.0 HotFix 1.01 (built Mar 15 2004)) with ESMTP id <0IJD00554VZKPE30@l-daemon> for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sat, 09 Jul 2005 17:30:56 -0600 (MDT) Received: from pn2ml6so.prod.shaw.ca ([10.0.121.150]) by pd4mr8so.prod.shaw.ca (Sun ONE Messaging Server 6.0 HotFix 1.01 (built Mar 15 2004)) with ESMTP id <0IJD003FLVZK5490@pd4mr8so.prod.shaw.ca> for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sat, 09 Jul 2005 17:30:56 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [192.168.0.100] (S0106000f3d63c5a5.vc.shawcable.net [24.85.154.162]) by l-daemon (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.18 (built Jul 28 2003)) with ESMTP id <0IJD00E14VZKH3@l-daemon> for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sat, 09 Jul 2005 17:30:56 -0600 (MDT) Received: from 127.0.0.1 (AVG SMTP 7.0.323 [267.8.11]); Sat, 09 Jul 2005 16:31:09 -0700 Date: Sat, 09 Jul 2005 16:31:09 -0700 From: Graham North To: questions freebsd Message-id: <42D05E3D.4080707@shaw.ca> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: multipart/mixed; boundary="=======AVGMAIL-42D05E3D0E0C=======" X-Accept-Language: en-us, en User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.2 (Windows/20050317) X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: apache-ssl and mod_mysql & mod_php4 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 09 Jul 2005 23:30:58 -0000 --=======AVGMAIL-42D05E3D0E0C======= Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Do the mysql and php4 modules integrate with apache-ssl. as with regular apache_1.3.33 ?? I installed apache-ssl instead of apache on a whim - SSL works and I can use the server for secure or regular port 80 http, however nowhere can I find info that explicitly indicates the compatability of mysql and php4 for this Apache variant. Can someone give me some assurance before I install the ports. Thanks, Graham/ -- Kindness can be infectious - try it. Graham North Vancouver, BC www.soleado.ca --=======AVGMAIL-42D05E3D0E0C======= Content-Type: text/plain; x-avg=cert; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline Content-Description: "AVG certification" No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.323 / Virus Database: 267.8.11/44 - Release Date: 7/8/2005 --=======AVGMAIL-42D05E3D0E0C=======-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jul 9 23:37:06 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 03EDE16A41C for ; Sat, 9 Jul 2005 23:37:06 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from sah.list@gmail.com) Received: from fed1rmmtao02.cox.net (fed1rmmtao02.cox.net [68.230.241.37]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A3D7D43D45 for ; Sat, 9 Jul 2005 23:37:05 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from sah.list@gmail.com) Received: from [192.168.22.118] (really [68.7.184.103]) by fed1rmmtao02.cox.net (InterMail vM.6.01.04.00 201-2131-118-20041027) with ESMTP id <20050709233656.LQNO22430.fed1rmmtao02.cox.net@[192.168.22.118]>; Sat, 9 Jul 2005 19:36:56 -0400 In-Reply-To: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v730) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=WINDOWS-1252; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: <90D2C0FA-439C-4E76-B5D1-79EE06AF2E4C@gmail.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable From: Sean Hafeez Date: Sat, 9 Jul 2005 16:36:44 -0700 To: Supote Lee X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.730) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: What OID for this? SNMP issue. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 09 Jul 2005 23:37:06 -0000 =46rom my mrtg setup on FreeBSD 5.4 Target[merlot-users]:hrSystemNumUsers.0&hrSystemNumUsers.=20 0:public@127.0.0.1 MaxBytes[merlot-users]: 900 Title[merlot-users]: merlot.beastproject.org - current users PageTop[merlot-users]:

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Unscaled[merlot-cpusum]: ymwd YLegend[merlot-cpusum]: cpu utilization ShortLegend[merlot-cpusum]: % Legend1[merlot-cpusum]: active cpu in % (load) Legend2[merlot-cpusum]: Legend3[merlot-cpusum]: Legend4[merlot-cpusum]: LegendI[merlot-cpusum]: active LegendO[merlot-cpusum]: Options[merlot-cpusum]: growright,nopercent Target[merlot-usrsys]:ssCpuRawUser.0&ssCpuRawSystem.0:public@127.0.0.1 MaxBytes[merlot-usrsys]: 100 Title[merlot-usrsys]: merlot.beastproject.org - user vs. system cpu =20 utilization PageTop[merlot-usrsys]:

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Unscaled[merlot-usrsys]: ymwd YLegend[merlot-usrsys]: cpu utilization ShortLegend[merlot-usrsys]: % Legend1[merlot-usrsys]: user cpu in % (load) Legend2[merlot-usrsys]: system cpu in % (load) Legend3[merlot-usrsys]: Legend4[merlot-usrsys]: LegendI[merlot-usrsys]: user LegendO[merlot-usrsys]: system Options[merlot-usrsys]: growright,nopercent On Jul 9, 2005, at 3:16 AM, Supote Lee wrote: > Hi, lists > > I'm currently implement SNMP (with port net-snmp) for a while. > My question is what OID can I get for monitoring the CPU idle > ( or CPU load) ? > > Using net-snmp-5.2.1. > > TIA > pjn > > _________________________________________________________________ > FREE pop-up blocking with the new MSN Toolbar =96 get it now! http://=20= > toolbar.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200415ave/direct/01/ > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-=20 > unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > >