From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Dec 11 01:09:59 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9E89616A41F for ; Sun, 11 Dec 2005 01:09:59 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from cpghost@cordula.ws) Received: from fw.farid-hajji.net (fw.farid-hajji.net [213.146.115.42]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 13F5D43D55 for ; Sun, 11 Dec 2005 01:09:58 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from cpghost@cordula.ws) Received: from epia2.farid-hajji.net (epia-2 [192.168.254.11]) by fw.farid-hajji.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 93155DD48E; Sun, 11 Dec 2005 02:09:43 +0100 (CET) Date: Sun, 11 Dec 2005 02:14:34 +0100 From: cpghost To: David Gerard Message-ID: <20051211011434.GA70478@epia2.farid-hajji.net> References: <20051210162448.10858.qmail@web33314.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <439B0BD2.8080809@thingy.apana.org.au> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <439B0BD2.8080809@thingy.apana.org.au> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.11 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Freebsd Theme Song X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 11 Dec 2005 01:09:59 -0000 On Sat, Dec 10, 2005 at 05:09:38PM +0000, David Gerard wrote: > Danial Thom wrote: > > > I vote for > > "Look what they've done to my song, Ma" - a > > commentary on the destruction of the (formally) > > world's best operating system. > > So far I'm finding 6.x a heck of a lot better than 5.x. The mousewheel > just works, a lot more of the ports just work, sound works ... you still > have to fiddle with /boot/loader.conf to get the sound to go, which is > completely braindead, but I'm sure it'll be up to the standard of Linux > distros 2001. Ahemm, speaking of sound... how about a, *cough*, working MIDI sequencer? Any way to attach a MIDI device to 5.x or 6.x _and_ being able to record from it? Anything workable yet? No? Am I missing something crucial here? > I would suggest a song about Pokemon sex toys. :) > - d. Thanks, -cpghost. -- Cordula's Web. http://www.cordula.ws/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Dec 11 01:30:25 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: FreeBSD-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: FreeBSD-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1166316A420 for ; Sun, 11 Dec 2005 01:30:22 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from nieves_e@charter.net) Received: from mxsf28.cluster1.charter.net (mxsf28.cluster1.charter.net [209.225.28.228]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 25C5143D67 for ; Sun, 11 Dec 2005 01:30:21 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from nieves_e@charter.net) Received: from mxip13a.cluster1.charter.net (mxip13a.cluster1.charter.net [209.225.28.143]) by mxsf28.cluster1.charter.net (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id jBB1UKHv015140 for ; Sat, 10 Dec 2005 20:30:20 -0500 Received: from unknown (HELO [192.168.1.103]) (24.196.234.25) by mxip13a.cluster1.charter.net with ESMTP; 10 Dec 2005 20:30:21 -0500 X-IronPort-AV: i="3.99,239,1131339600"; d="scan'208"; a="1884942014:sNHT14848088" Message-ID: <439BAB53.3040707@charter.net> Date: Sat, 10 Dec 2005 20:30:11 -0800 From: "Enrique Nieves Jr." User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.7 (X11/20051005) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: FreeBSD-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Subject: Still need help getting PCBSD to read my SD card and Jumpdrive X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 11 Dec 2005 01:30:25 -0000 Thanks for all your suggestions. I'm trying to get PCBSD to work properly with external media on a KDE environment. If anyone can explain why PCBSD KDE only configured my cd rom and hard drives, but left out a multi card reader (SD, CF, SM, MS) that's connected to the motherboard, although I think it's to one of the USB connections. I use a SD card from my camera, and also I can't get the USB connections on the front of the box to read my Lexar 1GB Jumpdrive. These media have Windows files. I appreciate the help I got from many of you to be able to read my floppy drive and CD ROM. Enrique From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Dec 11 02:53:29 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CD76816A41F for ; Sun, 11 Dec 2005 02:53:29 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from kstewart@owt.com) Received: from smtp.owt.com (smtp.owt.com [204.118.6.19]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 77EEA43D5C for ; Sun, 11 Dec 2005 02:53:29 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from kstewart@owt.com) Received: from topaz-out (owt-207-41-94-233.owt.com [207.41.94.233]) by smtp.owt.com (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id jBB2rCx4023050; Sat, 10 Dec 2005 18:53:12 -0800 From: Kent Stewart To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Sat, 10 Dec 2005 18:53:25 -0800 User-Agent: KMail/1.8.3 References: <439AB1A1.6030508@wanadoo.fr> <20051210171021.b70cdd07.dick@nagual.st> <20051210224528.GB11512@thought.org> In-Reply-To: <20051210224528.GB11512@thought.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200512101853.25399.kstewart@owt.com> Cc: Gary Kline Subject: Re: Flash no longer displayed in Firefox X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 11 Dec 2005 02:53:29 -0000 On Saturday 10 December 2005 02:45 pm, Gary Kline wrote: > On Sat, Dec 10, 2005 at 05:10:21PM +0100, dick hoogendijk wrote: > > On Sat, 10 Dec 2005 06:36:28 -0800 > > > > "Michael C. Shultz" wrote: > > > Good information! To automate this with portmanager you can add > > > the following two lines to pm-020.conf: > > > > > > #below must be on one line > > > STOP|/www/linuxpluginwrapper rm > > > STOP|-R /usr/X11R6/lib/browser_linux_plugins && ln > > > -s /usr/X11R6/lib/browser_plugins > > > /usr/X11R6/lib/browser_linux_plugins| > > > > YEAH, the information is good, except for the symlinked > > browser_plugins. You should not do this. That is, when I'd done > > this this week, mozilla wouldn't start anymore. Error 76 on X. It > > stook me quite some time to find out that the symlinked plugins dir > > was to blame. I removed the browser_linux_plugins and mozilla > > worked again. All plugins just are in browser_plugins. Having a > > REAL browser_linux_plugin dir does not harm the system. > > Ya know, I'm almost to the point where I'd pay real money to > be able to play real, windows, and mp? files ((audioo)) > with mozilla andor firefox. It's hopeless. Even on my > ubuntu testbox, the config messes up. When realplayer can > play dog/doze media, they get 5 gold stars. > > (*sigh*) > One of the sad parts is that half of the real plugins for firefox are only available on Windows 2000/XP. You have all of these sites that don't test their web pages via a modem and then, can't understand when people are unhappy because their flash features take 5 minutes to start doing something. Last I read was that only 15% or so of the people have DSL or faster. The other 85% are being ignored. I maintain the computers in a genealogy center. I have to wait until people are through before I can become the administrator and update the virus signatures. While I am waiting, I listen to music on my mp3 player and watch what people are doing. I think most of the people start fiddling with the mouse after 20 seconds of inactivity and after 20 more seconds, you have lost them. Kent -- Kent Stewart Richland, WA http://users.owt.com/kstewart/index.html From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Dec 11 05:35:59 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A155D16A420 for ; Sun, 11 Dec 2005 05:35:59 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from kdk@daleco.biz) Received: from ezekiel.daleco.biz (southernuniform.com [66.76.92.18]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 16C5543D4C for ; Sun, 11 Dec 2005 05:35:56 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from kdk@daleco.biz) Received: from [192.168.2.2] ([69.27.149.254]) by ezekiel.daleco.biz (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id jBB5Z5fU027193 for ; Sat, 10 Dec 2005 23:35:25 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from kdk@daleco.biz) Message-ID: <439BBA7F.6000808@daleco.biz> Date: Sat, 10 Dec 2005 23:34:55 -0600 From: Kevin Kinsey User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.7.12) Gecko/20051026 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <20051210162448.10858.qmail@web33314.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <439B0BD2.8080809@thingy.apana.org.au> <20051211011434.GA70478@epia2.farid-hajji.net> In-Reply-To: <20051211011434.GA70478@epia2.farid-hajji.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Freebsd Theme Song X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 11 Dec 2005 05:35:59 -0000 Hope this saves somebody a few keystrokes: ***** VI ***** #!/bin/sh # "themesong" ... enables you to quickly create a singable # ode to your favorite FreeBSD pet peeve. Add it, along with # mail(1) to your crontab to really annoy list members. # # License: BSD, of course. Additions welcome, provided # the meet with the goals of the Project. if [ $OSTYPE != "FreeBSD" ]; then echo "Wrong O.S. --- Gritch on your own project/distro's list! " exit 1 fi case $1 in -c) cat "/COPYRIGHT" exit 0;; -C) cat "/COPYRIGHT" exit 0;; # let the GNU people gritch too; but they won't like this part.... --copyright) cat "/COPYRIGHT" exit 0;; esac if [ "$1" ]; then echo " **** THE BIKESHED SONG **** sung to 'You are my Sunshine' and humbly submitted as a candidate in the soon-to-be-announced FreeBSD Theme Song Contest (but definitely not in any code competitions...) '$1' is my bikeshed, my only bikeshed '$1' makes me happy to gritch and moan; You'll never know, friend, how much I loathe '$1' Won't you please leave my '$1' alone!? " else echo " Usage: themesong foo ---where 'foo' is a description of your pet peeve with this O.S., e.g. 'themesong networking' " fi ***** DE ***** :D Kevin Kinsey -- THE DAILY PLANET SUPERMAN SAVES DESSERT! Plans to Eat it later From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Dec 11 06:47:55 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 782C116A41F for ; Sun, 11 Dec 2005 06:47:55 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from subhro.kar@gmail.com) Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.202]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E81CE43D4C for ; Sun, 11 Dec 2005 06:47:54 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from subhro.kar@gmail.com) Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id n1so1238951nzf for ; Sat, 10 Dec 2005 22:47:54 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:disposition-notification-to:date:from:organization:user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject:references:in-reply-to:x-mobile:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=cU3B2uZ6n0hEsj/VbgoFc9wuRKMDM+P1bKWl5DtB9xE8jwdpZbHtfS6e/Wg+NCqicIGfXgJGLYgKVak83VVk32QA8MhmBBgcFPm3QNirdAyw6e+5T0H+13x5P5lj76iz3CJsQ4bR6ACfggczrauUhvm7zayLKnGMKQgpTPAPdJY= Received: by 10.36.84.13 with SMTP id h13mr4858500nzb; Sat, 10 Dec 2005 22:47:54 -0800 (PST) Received: from ?127.0.0.1? ( [203.145.188.145]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id 20sm7492108nzp.2005.12.10.22.47.26; Sat, 10 Dec 2005 22:47:53 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <439BCAC6.8070104@gmail.com> Date: Sun, 11 Dec 2005 12:14:22 +0530 From: Subhro Organization: IBM Advanced Career Education User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5 (Windows/20051025) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Kevin Kinsey References: <20051210162448.10858.qmail@web33314.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <439B0BD2.8080809@thingy.apana.org.au> <20051211011434.GA70478@epia2.farid-hajji.net> <439BBA7F.6000808@daleco.biz> In-Reply-To: <439BBA7F.6000808@daleco.biz> X-Mobile: +919831064613 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Freebsd Theme Song X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 11 Dec 2005 06:47:55 -0000 Kevin Kinsey sat at his 'puter and typed on 12/11/2005 11:04: > Hope this saves somebody a few keystrokes: > > ***** VI ***** > > #!/bin/sh > > # "themesong" ... enables you to quickly create a singable > # ode to your favorite FreeBSD pet peeve. Add it, along with > # mail(1) to your crontab to really annoy list members. > # > # License: BSD, of course. Additions welcome, provided > # the meet with the goals of the Project. > > > if [ $OSTYPE != "FreeBSD" ]; then > echo "Wrong O.S. --- Gritch on your own project/distro's list! > " > exit 1 > fi > > case $1 in > -c) > cat "/COPYRIGHT" > exit 0;; > -C) > cat "/COPYRIGHT" > exit 0;; > # let the GNU people gritch too; but they won't like this part.... > --copyright) > cat "/COPYRIGHT" > exit 0;; > esac > > if [ "$1" ]; then > > echo " > **** THE BIKESHED SONG **** > > sung to 'You are my Sunshine' > and humbly submitted as a candidate in the > soon-to-be-announced FreeBSD Theme Song Contest > (but definitely not in any code competitions...) > > '$1' is my bikeshed, my only bikeshed > > '$1' makes me happy to gritch and moan; > > You'll never know, friend, how much I loathe '$1' > > Won't you please leave my '$1' alone!? > " > > else > > echo " > Usage: themesong foo > ---where 'foo' is a description of your pet peeve > with this O.S., e.g. 'themesong networking' > " > fi > > ***** DE ***** > > :D > > Kevin Kinsey > ROFLMAO This is definitely the best of all. Well done Kevin. Simply marvelous Thanks S. -- ------------------------------------------------------------------- \ / | Subhro Sankha Kar \./ | GSM: +919831010002 -- Fax: +919831832913 (0Y0) | MSN: subhro@subhro.org -- Yahoo!: subhro82 -ooO--(_)--Ooo----------------------------------------------------- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Dec 11 05:19:22 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3AABB16A41F for ; Sun, 11 Dec 2005 05:19:22 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from LawaGroga@aol.com) Received: from imo-m25.mx.aol.com (imo-m25.mx.aol.com [64.12.137.6]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 88CA243D60 for ; Sun, 11 Dec 2005 05:19:21 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from LawaGroga@aol.com) Received: from LawaGroga@aol.com by imo-m25.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v38_r6.3.) id n.2b5.20c6a8f (18555) for ; Sun, 11 Dec 2005 00:19:16 -0500 (EST) From: LawaGroga@aol.com Message-ID: <2b5.20c6a8f.30cd10d3@aol.com> Date: Sun, 11 Dec 2005 00:19:15 EST To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: 9.0 Security Edition for Windows sub 5302 X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Mailman-Approved-At: Sun, 11 Dec 2005 07:38:17 +0000 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: arplookup 192.168.1.254 failed: host is not on local network X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 11 Dec 2005 05:19:22 -0000 ok what doing you tell me how doing setting the ip address and fail network local network From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Dec 11 08:10:19 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 373AF16A4C1 for ; Sun, 11 Dec 2005 08:10:19 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from dan@nezlok.unixathome.org) Received: from nezlok.unixathome.org (nezlok.unixathome.org [66.154.97.250]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CACC143D5A for ; Sun, 11 Dec 2005 08:10:18 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from dan@nezlok.unixathome.org) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by nezlok.unixathome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 19A5957BF for ; Sun, 11 Dec 2005 00:10:16 -0800 (PST) Received: from nezlok.unixathome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (nezlok.unixathome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 76879-06 for ; Sun, 11 Dec 2005 00:10:05 -0800 (PST) Received: by nezlok.unixathome.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 29B6C578E; Sun, 11 Dec 2005 00:10:02 -0800 (PST) From: Dan Langille To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-Id: <20051211081002.29B6C578E@nezlok.unixathome.org> Date: Sun, 11 Dec 2005 00:10:02 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at unixathome.org Subject: The FreeBSD Diary: 2005-11-20 - 2005-12-10 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 11 Dec 2005 08:10:19 -0000 The FreeBSD Diary contains a large number of practical examples and how-to guides. 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Before you post a question here it might be a good idea to first search the mailing list archives and/or The FreeBSD Diary . -- Dan Langille BSDCan - http://www.BSDCan.org/ - BSD Conference From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Dec 11 08:26:46 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6451A16A41F for ; Sun, 11 Dec 2005 08:26:46 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from taatsamaortu@yahoo.com) Received: from web33410.mail.mud.yahoo.com (web33410.mail.mud.yahoo.com [68.142.206.142]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id DEFBC43D49 for ; Sun, 11 Dec 2005 08:26:45 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from taatsamaortu@yahoo.com) Received: (qmail 38084 invoked by uid 60001); 11 Dec 2005 08:26:45 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=ms28AmJ1u7g2CJKAd2UDvvf3Ei22xyFGyHC8YH1YN9Sy3K2ITwPf98JXoWNs/z+7E2vzjlwczF4L3+oa3hAPmzYSKkJiNcjt/LOmLiEvrWzbZg0TekEUwzqTUzsPePZxO6KqwVqUAyQt/e7V8kBSr9Lq8T5U34JBbo56DiDrAFQ= ; Message-ID: <20051211082645.38082.qmail@web33410.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Received: from [202.93.228.230] by web33410.mail.mud.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sun, 11 Dec 2005 00:26:45 PST Date: Sun, 11 Dec 2005 00:26:45 -0800 (PST) From: anthony endra To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Subject: Error when installing Openoffice 2.0 devel X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 11 Dec 2005 08:26:46 -0000 Here the message when installing Openoffice 2.0 devel via ports : ../dist/../libdb_java/db_java_wrap.c:7297: error: parse error before "arg2" ../dist/../libdb_java/db_java_wrap.c:7300: error: `jenv' undeclared (first use in this function) ../dist/../libdb_java/db_java_wrap.c:7301: error: `jcls' undeclared (first use in this function) ../dist/../libdb_java/db_java_wrap.c:7302: error: `jarg1' undeclared (first use in this function)../dist/../libdb_java/db_java_wrap.c:7303: error: `arg2' undeclared (first use in this function) ../dist/../libdb_java/db_java_wrap.c:7303: error: `jarg2' undeclared (first use in this function)*** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/ports/editors/openoffice-2.0-devel/work/berkeleydb/unxfbsd.pro/misc/build/db-4.2.52.NC/out. dmake: Error code 1, while making './unxfbsd.pro/misc/build/so_built_so_berkeleydb' '---* tg_merge.mk *---' ERROR: Error 65280 occurred while making /usr/ports/editors/openoffice-2.0-devel/work/berkeleydb dmake: Error code 1, while making 'build_all' '---* tg_merge.mk *---' *** Error code 255 Stop in /usr/ports/editors/openoffice-2.0-devel. kzaytx0wkvs# What can i do to make it work. Your help will be appreciate. regards, anthony endra __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Dec 11 09:35:55 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D07CB16A41F for ; Sun, 11 Dec 2005 09:35:55 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) Received: from mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com (mail.web-strider.com [65.75.192.90]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 54F6143D49 for ; Sun, 11 Dec 2005 09:35:55 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) Received: from tedwin2k (nat-rtr.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [65.75.197.130]) by mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com (8.11.1/8.11.1) with SMTP id jBB9cSb88468; Sun, 11 Dec 2005 01:38:28 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) From: "Ted Mittelstaedt" To: "Kevin Kinsey" , Date: Sun, 11 Dec 2005 01:35:17 -0800 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.6604 (9.0.2911.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1506 In-reply-to: <439BBA7F.6000808@daleco.biz> Importance: Normal Cc: Subject: RE: Freebsd Theme Song X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 11 Dec 2005 09:35:55 -0000 Kevin, I think your confused, this is the FreeBSD Questions mailing list theme song, not the FreeBSD Operating System theme song. Ted >-----Original Message----- >From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org >[mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]On Behalf Of Kevin Kinsey >Sent: Saturday, December 10, 2005 9:35 PM >To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org >Subject: Re: Freebsd Theme Song > > >Hope this saves somebody a few keystrokes: > >***** VI ***** > >#!/bin/sh > ># "themesong" ... enables you to quickly create a singable ># ode to your favorite FreeBSD pet peeve. Add it, along with ># mail(1) to your crontab to really annoy list members. ># ># License: BSD, of course. Additions welcome, provided ># the meet with the goals of the Project. > > >if [ $OSTYPE != "FreeBSD" ]; then > echo "Wrong O.S. --- Gritch on your own project/distro's list! >" > exit 1 >fi > >case $1 in > -c) > cat "/COPYRIGHT" > exit 0;; > -C) > cat "/COPYRIGHT" > exit 0;; > ># let the GNU people gritch too; but they won't like this part.... > --copyright) > cat "/COPYRIGHT" > exit 0;; >esac > >if [ "$1" ]; then > >echo " > **** THE BIKESHED SONG **** > > sung to 'You are my Sunshine' > and humbly submitted as a candidate in the > soon-to-be-announced FreeBSD Theme Song Contest > (but definitely not in any code competitions...) > >'$1' is my bikeshed, my only bikeshed > >'$1' makes me happy to gritch and moan; > >You'll never know, friend, how much I loathe '$1' > >Won't you please leave my '$1' alone!? >" > >else > >echo " >Usage: themesong foo > ---where 'foo' is a description of your pet peeve >with this O.S., e.g. 'themesong networking' >" >fi > >***** DE ***** > >:D > >Kevin Kinsey > >-- > THE DAILY PLANET > > SUPERMAN SAVES DESSERT! > Plans to Eat it later > > >_______________________________________________ >freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list >http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions >To unsubscribe, send any mail to >"freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > >-- >No virus found in this incoming message. >Checked by AVG Free Edition. >Version: 7.1.371 / Virus Database: 267.13.13/197 - Release >Date: 12/9/2005 > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Dec 11 09:46:23 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2200D16A41F for ; Sun, 11 Dec 2005 09:46:23 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) Received: from mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com (mail.web-strider.com [65.75.192.90]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9EA9043D4C for ; Sun, 11 Dec 2005 09:46:22 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) Received: from tedwin2k (nat-rtr.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [65.75.197.130]) by mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com (8.11.1/8.11.1) with SMTP id jBB9nXb88521 for ; Sun, 11 Dec 2005 01:49:33 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) From: "Ted Mittelstaedt" To: Date: Sun, 11 Dec 2005 01:46:21 -0800 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.6604 (9.0.2911.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1506 Importance: Normal Subject: Official FreeBSD Haiku X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 11 Dec 2005 09:46:23 -0000 OK, since we are reaching for silliness here, I present my contest entry for the Official FreeBSD Haiku Springs FreeBSD: powerful, stable, OS few people know it Ted From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Dec 11 10:44:58 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3D08A16A41F for ; Sun, 11 Dec 2005 10:44:58 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from roth@droopy.unibe.ch) Received: from mailhub04.unibe.ch (mailhub04.unibe.ch [130.92.9.71]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 90F9E43D5F for ; Sun, 11 Dec 2005 10:44:57 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from roth@droopy.unibe.ch) Received: from localhost (scanhub02-eth0.unibe.ch [130.92.254.66]) by mailhub04.unibe.ch (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5B1611795E for ; Sun, 11 Dec 2005 11:44:55 +0100 (CET) Received: from mailhub04.unibe.ch ([130.92.9.71]) by localhost (scanhub02.unibe.ch [130.92.254.66]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 13905-02-96 for ; Sun, 11 Dec 2005 11:44:54 +0100 (CET) Received: from asterix.unibe.ch (asterix.unibe.ch [130.92.64.4]) by mailhub04.unibe.ch (Postfix) with ESMTP id DD2C71794D for ; Sun, 11 Dec 2005 11:44:53 +0100 (CET) Received: from droopy.unibe.ch (droopy [130.92.64.20]) by asterix.unibe.ch (8.12.10+Sun/8.12.10) with ESMTP id jBBAisdB018822 for ; Sun, 11 Dec 2005 11:44:54 +0100 (MET) Received: (from roth@localhost) by droopy.unibe.ch (8.12.10+Sun/8.12.9/Submit) id jBBAis0d016647 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sun, 11 Dec 2005 11:44:54 +0100 (MET) Date: Sun, 11 Dec 2005 11:44:54 +0100 From: Tobias Roth To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20051211104454.GA16629@droopy.unibe.ch> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.4i X-message-flag: Warning! Using Outlook is insecure and promotes virus distribution. Please use a different email client. X-Virus-checked: by University of Berne Subject: Looking for a GFX Card Dual DVI X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 11 Dec 2005 10:44:58 -0000 Hi I am looking for a supported graphics card that offers dual-head 1600x1200 with dvi, passively cooled if possible. 3D support must be present, but it doesn't need to be the latest and fastest. I came across the Matrox P650, but unlike models of G550 and below, these seem not directly supported by xorg anymore. Any good advice on what to buy? Thanks, t. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Dec 11 11:08:14 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A25D116A41F for ; Sun, 11 Dec 2005 11:08:14 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from freebsdbeni@spymac.com) Received: from xizor.is.scarlet.be (xizor.is.scarlet.be [193.74.71.21]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B2D5843D5A for ; Sun, 11 Dec 2005 11:08:13 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from freebsdbeni@spymac.com) Received: from ([62.235.228.71]) by xizor.is.scarlet.be with ESMTP id jBBB8Br23701 for ; Sun, 11 Dec 2005 12:08:11 +0100 From: FreeBsdBeni To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Sun, 11 Dec 2005 12:07:46 -0800 User-Agent: KMail/1.8.3 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="nextPart1279004.X8z51TxG9l"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=pgp-sha1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <200512111207.49635.freebsdbeni@spymac.com> Subject: changing shell X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 11 Dec 2005 11:08:14 -0000 --nextPart1279004.X8z51TxG9l Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-15" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline Hi, I'm trying to get my shell changed from the default csh to bash. I followed= =20 the instruction in the handbook, "chsh -s /usr/local/bin/bash beni" and got= =20 the reply that the user information was updated : root@PCBSD:/home/beni> chsh -s /usr/local/bin/bash beni chsh: user information updated root@PCBSD:/home/beni>=20 Did the same for root. Looked with vipw and my shell was changed to bash.=20 My /etc/shells was also modified : beni@PCBSD:~> cat /etc/shells # $FreeBSD: src/etc/shells,v 1.5 2000/04/27 21:58:46 ache Exp $ # # List of acceptable shells for chpass(1). # Ftpd will not allow users to connect who are not using # one of these shells. /bin/sh /bin/csh /bin/tcsh /usr/local/bin/bash beni@PCBSD:~> But when logging out and back in again, the shell didn't change to bash. It= 's=20 still csh... I just get the "%"-sign and have to type "bash" to get the=20 bash-shell in a console. And the weird thing is with path : %echo $path /sbin /bin /usr/sbin /usr/local/bin /usr/games /usr/local/sbin /usr/bin /us= r/X11R6/bin /home/beni/bin % beni@PCBSD:~> echo $path beni@PCBSD:~> Any hints on the why of this ? =2D-=20 Beni. --nextPart1279004.X8z51TxG9l Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.2 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQBDnIcV98oeEzEDrEcRAvi3AJ0e5NCW0S+qctamXh0n/Ss8WzE0tQCfZJEy 8orz8m/XHjtAX7rUvdoyrbA= =pj1U -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --nextPart1279004.X8z51TxG9l-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Dec 11 11:17:27 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 63E4816A41F for ; Sun, 11 Dec 2005 11:17:27 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from v.cristescu@gmail.com) Received: from nproxy.gmail.com (nproxy.gmail.com [64.233.182.204]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 49A6E43D75 for ; Sun, 11 Dec 2005 11:17:22 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from v.cristescu@gmail.com) Received: by nproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id x4so449142nfb for ; Sun, 11 Dec 2005 03:17:21 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:from:to:subject:date:user-agent:references:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:message-id; b=oSFmiaz7V+4ne2edfFZtgyq3PVghh+NTTkQD9spWphoMABt1SHDDTt+3jBroXX3o3precof7GqQD06OI+os2vb94Ku8LGTsKIx/fDehgpeyNgSTUHe+P7zbjbZ51mBKvj/qdLrUwdMvLwhmZSMGmAmkHQFmfLCOMEp9I7APQyAk= Received: by 10.48.255.12 with SMTP id c12mr655018nfi; Sun, 11 Dec 2005 03:17:20 -0800 (PST) Received: from ?172.23.4.178? ( [193.226.6.229]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id c10sm1342802nfb.2005.12.11.03.17.19; Sun, 11 Dec 2005 03:17:20 -0800 (PST) From: Vasile C To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Sun, 11 Dec 2005 13:17:15 +0200 User-Agent: KMail/1.8.3 References: <200512111207.49635.freebsdbeni@spymac.com> In-Reply-To: <200512111207.49635.freebsdbeni@spymac.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="nextPart1933049.1hJo2M7G44"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=pgp-sha1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <200512111317.26339.v.cristescu@gmail.com> Subject: Re: changing shell X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 11 Dec 2005 11:17:27 -0000 --nextPart1933049.1hJo2M7G44 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-6" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline On Sunday 11 December 2005 22:07, FreeBsdBeni wrote: > Hi, > > I'm trying to get my shell changed from the default csh to bash. I follow= ed > the instruction in the handbook, "chsh -s /usr/local/bin/bash beni" and g= ot > the reply that the user information was updated : > > root@PCBSD:/home/beni> chsh -s /usr/local/bin/bash beni > chsh: user information updated > root@PCBSD:/home/beni> > > Did the same for root. Looked with vipw and my shell was changed to bash. > My /etc/shells was also modified : > > beni@PCBSD:~> cat /etc/shells > # $FreeBSD: src/etc/shells,v 1.5 2000/04/27 21:58:46 ache Exp $ > # > # List of acceptable shells for chpass(1). > # Ftpd will not allow users to connect who are not using > # one of these shells. > > /bin/sh > /bin/csh > /bin/tcsh > /usr/local/bin/bash > beni@PCBSD:~> > > But when logging out and back in again, the shell didn't change to bash. > It's still csh... I just get the "%"-sign and have to type "bash" to get > the bash-shell in a console. > > And the weird thing is with path : > > %echo $path > /sbin /bin /usr/sbin /usr/local/bin /usr/games /usr/local/sbin /usr/bin > /usr/X11R6/bin /home/beni/bin % > > beni@PCBSD:~> echo $path > > beni@PCBSD:~> > > Any hints on the why of this ? Try: pw user mod beni -s /usr/local/bin/bash =2D-=20 Regards , Vasile C If UNIX doesn't have the solution you have the wrong problem. UNIX is simple, but it takes a genius to understand it's simplicity. --nextPart1933049.1hJo2M7G44 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.2 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQBDnArG0IQ7kyLk6voRAoyaAJ9m79p5I2gBLGMuz+hEPN8QT+QalgCeKn20 Tml4rnRNJkDsg1D9fjccCS0= =a7XT -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --nextPart1933049.1hJo2M7G44-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Dec 11 11:19:16 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 70EED16A420 for ; Sun, 11 Dec 2005 11:19:16 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from freebsdbeni@spymac.com) Received: from xizor.is.scarlet.be (xizor.is.scarlet.be [193.74.71.21]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2A57543D5F for ; Sun, 11 Dec 2005 11:19:14 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from freebsdbeni@spymac.com) Received: from ([62.235.228.71]) by xizor.is.scarlet.be with ESMTP id jBBBJDr27588 for ; Sun, 11 Dec 2005 12:19:13 +0100 From: FreeBsdBeni To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Sun, 11 Dec 2005 12:18:51 -0800 User-Agent: KMail/1.8.3 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-15" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <200512111218.51674.freebsdbeni@spymac.com> Subject: kontact won't start up X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 11 Dec 2005 11:19:16 -0000 Hi, Kontact won't start up any more. It stops with an "signal 4 (SIGILL). Here is the backtrace : [New LWP 100177] [Switching to LWP 100177] 0x29b5b7b3 in wait4 () from /lib/libc.so.6 #0 0x29b5b7b3 in wait4 () from /lib/libc.so.6 #1 0x29b4cfe1 in waitpid () from /lib/libc.so.6 #2 0x29af90be in waitpid () from /usr/lib/libpthread.so.2 #3 0x2918ec2a in KCrash::defaultCrashHandler () from /usr/local/lib/libkdecore.so.6 #4 0x29b0175a in sigaction () from /usr/lib/libpthread.so.2 #5 0xbfbfff94 in ?? () #6 0x00000004 in ?? () #7 0xbfbf8dc0 in ?? () #8 0xbfbf8b00 in ?? () #9 0x00000000 in ?? () #10 0x29b0122c in sigaction () from /usr/lib/libpthread.so.2 #11 0x28f67cb8 in KXMLGUI::ActionList::unplug () from /usr/local/lib/libkdeui.so.6 #12 0x28f69e9a in KXMLGUI::ContainerNode::unplugClient () from /usr/local/lib/libkdeui.so.6 #13 0x28f6a1a4 in KXMLGUI::ContainerNode::unplugActions () from /usr/local/lib/libkdeui.so.6 #14 0x28f6a21e in KXMLGUI::ContainerNode::destruct () from /usr/local/lib/libkdeui.so.6 #15 0x28f6a3fb in KXMLGUI::ContainerNode::destructChildren () from /usr/local/lib/libkdeui.so.6 #16 0x28f6a215 in KXMLGUI::ContainerNode::destruct () from /usr/local/lib/libkdeui.so.6 #17 0x28f64d5e in KXMLGUIFactory::removeClient () from /usr/local/lib/libkdeui.so.6 #18 0x28a0f132 in KParts::MainWindow::createGUI () from /usr/local/lib/libkparts.so.3 #19 0x080616d4 in Kontact::MainWindow::selectPlugin () #20 0x080609eb in Kontact::MainWindow::initObject () #21 0x0806139b in Kontact::MainWindow::MainWindow () #22 0x0805bd67 in KontactApp::newInstance () #23 0x291ac971 in KUniqueApplication::processDelayed () from /usr/local/lib/libkdecore.so.6 #24 0x291acb19 in KUniqueApplication::qt_invoke () from /usr/local/lib/libkdecore.so.6 #25 0x29574aac in QObject::activate_signal () from /usr/X11R6/lib/libqt-mt.so.3 #26 0x2987457b in QSignal::signal () from /usr/X11R6/lib/libqt-mt.so.3 #27 0x2958bbe2 in QSignal::activate () from /usr/X11R6/lib/libqt-mt.so.3 #28 0x295926cf in QSingleShotTimer::event () from /usr/X11R6/lib/libqt-mt.so.3 #29 0x29519035 in QApplication::internalNotify () from /usr/X11R6/lib/libqt-mt.so.3 #30 0x295191ca in QApplication::notify () from /usr/X11R6/lib/libqt-mt.so.3 #31 0x2910221a in KApplication::notify () from /usr/local/lib/libkdecore.so.6 #32 0x2950d874 in QEventLoop::activateTimers () from /usr/X11R6/lib/libqt-mt.so.3 #33 0x294cb954 in QEventLoop::processEvents () from /usr/X11R6/lib/libqt-mt.so.3 #34 0x2952d48f in QEventLoop::enterLoop () from /usr/X11R6/lib/libqt-mt.so.3 #35 0x2952d3e8 in QEventLoop::exec () from /usr/X11R6/lib/libqt-mt.so.3 #36 0x29518370 in QApplication::exec () from /usr/X11R6/lib/libqt-mt.so.3 #37 0x0805c3d1 in main () But the weird thing is, if I'm starting just kmail (execute command -> kmail), kmail starts up fine. And then clicking on the kontact-icon does start up kontact. Starting kontact from console gives me this : beni@PCBSD:~> kontact Fontconfig warning: "local.conf", line 236: missing test expression Fontconfig warning: "local.conf", line 237: missing test expression Fontconfig warning: "local.conf", line 238: missing test expression Fontconfig warning: "local.conf", line 239: missing test expression Fontconfig warning: "local.conf", line 240: missing test expression *** KMail got signal 4 (Crashing) ERROR: Communication problem with kontact, it probably crashed. beni@PCBSD:~> KCrash: Application 'kontact' crashing... Fontconfig warning: "local.conf", line 236: missing test expression Fontconfig warning: "local.conf", line 237: missing test expression Fontconfig warning: "local.conf", line 238: missing test expression Fontconfig warning: "local.conf", line 239: missing test expression Fontconfig warning: "local.conf", line 240: missing test expression beni@PCBSD:~> I didn't find any "local.conf" on my system. Any clues on why kontact won't start ? Thanks ! -- Beni. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Dec 11 11:24:11 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9464716A41F for ; Sun, 11 Dec 2005 11:24:11 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from freebsdbeni@spymac.com) Received: from xizor.is.scarlet.be (xizor.is.scarlet.be [193.74.71.21]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BF19E43D58 for ; Sun, 11 Dec 2005 11:24:10 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from freebsdbeni@spymac.com) Received: from ([62.235.228.71]) by xizor.is.scarlet.be with ESMTP id jBBBO9r29109 for ; Sun, 11 Dec 2005 12:24:09 +0100 From: FreeBsdBeni To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Sun, 11 Dec 2005 12:23:45 -0800 User-Agent: KMail/1.8.3 References: <200512111207.49635.freebsdbeni@spymac.com> <200512111317.26339.v.cristescu@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <200512111317.26339.v.cristescu@gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="nextPart1831695.ODJzcyjD4T"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=pgp-sha1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <200512111223.47796.freebsdbeni@spymac.com> Subject: Re: changing shell X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 11 Dec 2005 11:24:11 -0000 --nextPart1831695.ODJzcyjD4T Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline On Sunday 11 December 2005 03:17, Vasile C wrote: > On Sunday 11 December 2005 22:07, FreeBsdBeni wrote: > > Hi, > > > > I'm trying to get my shell changed from the default csh to bash. I > > followed the instruction in the handbook, "chsh -s /usr/local/bin/bash > > beni" and got the reply that the user information was updated : > > > > root@PCBSD:/home/beni> chsh -s /usr/local/bin/bash beni > > chsh: user information updated > > root@PCBSD:/home/beni> > > > > Did the same for root. Looked with vipw and my shell was changed to bas= h. > > My /etc/shells was also modified : > > > > beni@PCBSD:~> cat /etc/shells > > # $FreeBSD: src/etc/shells,v 1.5 2000/04/27 21:58:46 ache Exp $ > > # > > # List of acceptable shells for chpass(1). > > # Ftpd will not allow users to connect who are not using > > # one of these shells. > > > > /bin/sh > > /bin/csh > > /bin/tcsh > > /usr/local/bin/bash > > beni@PCBSD:~> > > > > But when logging out and back in again, the shell didn't change to bash. > > It's still csh... I just get the "%"-sign and have to type "bash" to get > > the bash-shell in a console. > > > > And the weird thing is with path : > > > > %echo $path > > /sbin /bin /usr/sbin /usr/local/bin /usr/games /usr/local/sbin /usr/bin > > /usr/X11R6/bin /home/beni/bin % > > > > beni@PCBSD:~> echo $path > > > > beni@PCBSD:~> > > > > Any hints on the why of this ? > > Try: pw user mod beni -s /usr/local/bin/bash hey, that worked ! Thanks. =2D-=20 Beni. --nextPart1831695.ODJzcyjD4T Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.2 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQBDnIrT98oeEzEDrEcRAvy2AJ0TLgXGpMG7wUflk1uQJ0WLviCF4wCfYuoo e4FMcgoKr6u7bjIHvpy19kQ= =PnmF -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --nextPart1831695.ODJzcyjD4T-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Dec 11 12:01:51 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 50E4716A422 for ; Sun, 11 Dec 2005 12:01:51 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from mm@andvari.de) Received: from smtprelay04.ispgateway.de (smtprelay04.ispgateway.de [80.67.18.16]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8C02D43D77 for ; Sun, 11 Dec 2005 12:01:32 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from mm@andvari.de) Received: (qmail 31002 invoked from network); 11 Dec 2005 12:01:29 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO andvari.ath.cx) ([pbs]750710@[84.168.115.239]) (envelope-sender ) by smtprelay04.ispgateway.de (qmail-ldap-1.03) with AES256-SHA encrypted SMTP for ; 11 Dec 2005 12:01:29 -0000 Received: from andvari.ath.cx (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by andvari.ath.cx (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id jBBC1OVI027478; Sun, 11 Dec 2005 13:01:25 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from mm@andvari.de) Received: (from mm@localhost) by andvari.ath.cx (8.13.4/8.13.4/Submit) id jBBC1LAf027477; Sun, 11 Dec 2005 13:01:21 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from mm@andvari.de) X-Authentication-Warning: andvari.ath.cx: mm set sender to mm@andvari.de using -f Date: Sun, 11 Dec 2005 13:01:20 +0100 From: Martin =?iso-8859-1?Q?M=F6ller?= To: Benjamin Thelen Message-ID: <20051211120120.GA25491@andvari.ath.cx> References: <39809.192.168.0.5.1134159325.squirrel@192.168.0.5> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: <39809.192.168.0.5.1134159325.squirrel@192.168.0.5> X-URL: http://www.andvari.de/ X-PGP: Download public key from http://www.pb-mm.de/pgp X-Phone: +49 (0) 6126 58 38 36 X-Fax: +49 (0) 6126 58 45 78 X-Mobile: +49 (0) 1638 696 595 X-Location: Idstein, Hessen, Deutschland, Europa X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 6 (RELENG_6) X-Accept-Language: de en X-Uptime: 18 mins User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.11 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: openoffice-2 & openssl-beta-0.9.8a X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 11 Dec 2005 12:01:51 -0000 * Benjamin Thelen [09-12-2005 21:15:25 +0100]: > I'm a bit of a loss, no answer, no help by google, but I can't be the only > one who faces this problem. How are you dealing with this? Do I overlook > something? Just force the thing to install and don't give another thought to that openssl dependency: pkg_add -f xxxx.tgz "f" like ....... force! ;-) HTH, Martin -- Martin Möller - ICQ # 82221572 GnuPG/PGP (DSA) Schlüssel-ID: 06746BEE - FAbdruck 9D2E 943F A669 50E4 A638 E42F 2699 2A76 0674 6BEE From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Dec 11 12:07:22 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C8F2316A422 for ; Sun, 11 Dec 2005 12:07:22 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from gerard@seibercom.net) Received: from smtp3.suscom.net (smtp3.suscom.net [64.78.119.250]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C7B3A43D5A for ; Sun, 11 Dec 2005 12:07:21 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from gerard@seibercom.net) Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by smtp3.suscom.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 29D7E2115FD for ; Sun, 11 Dec 2005 07:07:20 -0500 (EST) Received: from smtp3.suscom.net ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (smtp3.suscom.net [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 14720-07-4 for ; Sun, 11 Dec 2005 07:07:13 -0500 (EST) Received: from seibercom.net (ip148.217.susc.suscom.net [216.45.217.148]) by smtp3.suscom.net (Postfix) with SMTP id 41B9C2115FF for ; Sun, 11 Dec 2005 07:07:13 -0500 (EST) Received: from [192.168.0.2] (//gerard [192.168.0.2]) by seibercom.net (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id jBBC7Dq4005441 for ; Sun, 11 Dec 2005 07:07:13 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from gerard@seibercom.net) Date: Sun, 11 Dec 2005 07:07:15 -0500 From: Gerard Seibert To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sender: gerard@seibercom.net Organization: Seibercom.net In-Reply-To: <200512101853.25399.kstewart@owt.com> References: <20051210224528.GB11512@thought.org> <200512101853.25399.kstewart@owt.com> X-Face: "\j?x](l|]4p?-1Bf@!wN<&p=$.}^k-HgL}cJKbQZ3r#Ar]\%U(#6}'?<3s7%(%(gxJxxcR nSNPNr*/^~StawWU9KDJ-CT0k$f#@t2^K&BS_f|?ZV/.7Q Message-Id: <20051211065812.FEDD.GERARD@seibercom.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Mailer: Becky! ver. 2.23 [en] X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at suscom.net Subject: Re: Flash no longer displayed in Firefox X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 11 Dec 2005 12:07:23 -0000 On Saturday, December 10, 2005 9:53:25 PM Kent Stewart Subject: Re: Flash no longer displayed in Firefox Wrote these words of wisdom: > One of the sad parts is that half of the real plugins for firefox are > only available on Windows 2000/XP. ***** REPLY SEPARATOR ***** On 10/11/2005 5:29:42 PM, Gerard Replied: Yes, it is a real conundrum. It is ironic when you consider that a product built by supporters of open source software are actually giving greater support for an OS that is not open source. I guess when you filter in the very real possibility that many users of Win32 are children, or users who do not wish to learn the intricacies of running a *nix OS, and in all probability would never be able to hurdle the obstacles that abound in such use, the fact that non Win32 OS's are not better supported is not surprising. Just my 2¢. -- Gerard Seibert gerard@seibercom.net "When authorities warn you of the sinfulness of sex, there is an important lesson to be learned. Do not have sex with the authorities." Matt Groening From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Dec 11 12:43:07 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 19C5716A41F for ; Sun, 11 Dec 2005 12:43:07 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from Philippe.Pegon@crc.u-strasbg.fr) Received: from mailhost.u-strasbg.fr (mailhost.u-strasbg.fr [130.79.200.153]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3B3A243D58 for ; Sun, 11 Dec 2005 12:43:05 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from Philippe.Pegon@crc.u-strasbg.fr) Received: from baal.u-strasbg.fr (baal.u-strasbg.fr [IPv6:2001:660:2402::41]) by mailhost.u-strasbg.fr (8.13.3/jtpda-5.5pre1) with ESMTP id jBBCh33A096691 ; Sun, 11 Dec 2005 13:43:03 +0100 (CET) Received: from [127.0.0.1] (crc.u-strasbg.fr [IPv6:2001:660:2402:1001::1]) by baal.u-strasbg.fr (8.13.4/jtpda-5.5pre1) with ESMTP id jBBCh3PN030874 ; Sun, 11 Dec 2005 13:43:03 +0100 Message-ID: <439C1EAC.6090102@crc.u-strasbg.fr> Date: Sun, 11 Dec 2005 13:42:20 +0100 From: Philippe Pegon User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.7 (X11/20051016) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: ohmer@epita.info References: <51053.213.41.241.56.1134240324.squirrel@webmail.epita.info> In-Reply-To: <51053.213.41.241.56.1134240324.squirrel@webmail.epita.info> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV 0.87.1/1207/Fri Dec 9 23:01:12 2005 on mr3.u-strasbg.fr X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV 0.87.1/1207/Fri Dec 9 23:01:12 2005 on baal.u-strasbg.fr X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-2.0.2 (mailhost.u-strasbg.fr [IPv6:2001:660:2402::153]); Sun, 11 Dec 2005 13:43:04 +0100 (CET) X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.1 required=5.0 tests=AWL,NO_RELAYS autolearn=disabled version=3.1.0 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.0 (2005-09-13) on mr3.u-strasbg.fr Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: ifconfig can't remove aliases X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 11 Dec 2005 12:43:07 -0000 oHmEr wrote: > hello, > > i have a problem with ifconfig: it refuses to delete an ipv6 alias for an > incomprehensible reason. here's what i'm doing : > > $ uname -a > FreeBSD homer.cload.net 6.0-RELEASE FreeBSD 6.0-RELEASE #4: Sun Nov 27 > 19:01:40 CET 2005 root@homer.cload.net:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/HOMER > i386 > $ ifconfig dc0 > dc0: flags=8843 mtu 1500 > options=8 > inet6 fe80::248:54ff:fe12:76fb%dc0 prefixlen 64 scopeid 0x1 > inet6 2001:7a8:b138::1 prefixlen 64 > inet 192.168.2.253 netmask 0xffffff00 broadcast 192.168.2.255 > inet6 2001:7a8:b138:caca:caca:caca:caca:1 prefixlen 64 > inet6 2001:7a8:b138::caca:1 prefixlen 48 > ether 00:48:54:12:76:fb > media: Ethernet autoselect (100baseTX ) > status: active > $ sudo ifconfig dc0 inet6 -alias 2001:7a8:b138::1 > ifconfig: ioctl (SIOCDIFADDR): Can't assign requested address > > other ipv6 addresses can't be removed too. is it a bug ? what can cause > this error ? try : $ sudo ifconfig dc0 inet6 2001:7a8:b138::1 delete or $ sudo ifconfig dc0 inet6 2001:7a8:b138::1 -alias in ifconfig(8) : SYNOPSIS ifconfig [-L] [-k] [-m] interface [create] [address_family] [address [dest_address]] [parameters] parameters is in the end (like delete or -alias) -- Philippe Pegon From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Dec 11 13:20:11 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3A64416A41F for ; Sun, 11 Dec 2005 13:20:11 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from chris@childeric.freeserve.co.uk) Received: from smtp-out3.blueyonder.co.uk (smtp-out3.blueyonder.co.uk [195.188.213.6]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 97E8243D5D for ; Sun, 11 Dec 2005 13:20:09 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from chris@childeric.freeserve.co.uk) Received: from [192.168.10.200] ([82.35.113.87]) by smtp-out3.blueyonder.co.uk with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.6713); Sun, 11 Dec 2005 13:21:03 +0000 Message-ID: <439C272B.7050603@childeric.freeserve.co.uk> Date: Sun, 11 Dec 2005 13:18:35 +0000 From: Chris Whitehouse User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.7 (X11/20051017) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: FreeBSD Questions References: <200512101156.16145.surferdamon@adelphia.net> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-OriginalArrivalTime: 11 Dec 2005 13:21:03.0968 (UTC) FILETIME=[BC97FE00:01C5FE55] Subject: Re: Copying kernel and OS X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 11 Dec 2005 13:20:11 -0000 Svein Halvor Halvorsen wrote: > On 12/10/05, Damon Blom wrote: > >> Thank's. Is there an easy way to install ports on slow machine using nfs >>after portupgrade on fast machine? For one port I guess you could do a nfs >>mount of faster machine ports after doing make on ithe port and just do >>install on slower machine I think you would have had to do make install on the fast machine so that dependencies get created but not make install clean so that the work directories don't get deleted. Then I guess a make install in the nfs mounted ports tree would do the trick. On my fast machine I created a /usr/ports/packages directory then each time I want to install a new port on any machine I do 'make package-recursive' in the port directory of the fast machine. This installs the port and dependencies and also creates in /usr/ports/packages a 'package tree' which has the same structure as the ports tree with the addition of a /usr/ports/packages/All directory. The packages for the new port and all its dependencies automagically go into All and are symlinked to the relevant bit of the the package tree. To install a package on another machine I get the package tree installed in the right place by whatever means (nfs, move the hard disk etc), change to /usr/ports/packages/All and do pkg_add -r . Chris From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Dec 11 13:40:58 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 441BC16A41F for ; Sun, 11 Dec 2005 13:40:58 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ml@netfence.it) Received: from parrot.aev.net (parrot.aev.net [212.31.247.179]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1621F43D58 for ; Sun, 11 Dec 2005 13:40:56 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ml@netfence.it) Received: from soth.ventu (adsl-ull-84-135.51-151.net24.it [151.51.135.84]) (authenticated bits=128) by parrot.aev.net (8.13.5/8.13.5) with ESMTP id jBBDuTZ5056851 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=OK) for ; Sun, 11 Dec 2005 14:56:35 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from ml@netfence.it) Received: from [10.1.2.18] (alamar.ventu [10.1.2.18]) (authenticated bits=0) by soth.ventu (8.13.5/8.13.3) with ESMTP id jBBDdwFY035216 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=OK); Sun, 11 Dec 2005 14:39:59 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from ml@netfence.it) Message-ID: <439C2C56.2060202@netfence.it> Date: Sun, 11 Dec 2005 14:40:38 +0100 From: Andrea Venturoli User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.7 (X11/20051202) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Loren M. Lang" , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <43999C2E.7010506@netfence.it> <20051210071346.GE7386@alzatex.com> In-Reply-To: <20051210071346.GE7386@alzatex.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.53 on 212.31.247.179 X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.53 on 10.1.2.13 Cc: Subject: Re: Sligtly OT: setting static routes on clients X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 11 Dec 2005 13:40:58 -0000 Loren M. Lang wrote: > On Fri, Dec 09, 2005 at 04:01:02PM +0100, Andrea Venturoli wrote: > >>Hello. >>I've got a network of clients on which I'd like to set static routes; >>these are mainly (but not only) Windows machines, administered through a >>couple of FreeBSD servers. >>Is there any way to do this with DHCP? >>Or via Samba (netlogon.cmd)? > > > Have you considered a dynamic routing protocol like rip or ospf using > the routed or zebra daemons for freebsd? I know some versions of > windows come with, or have a windows component you can add for the rip > protocol. Actually no, I haven't tought about it seriously. I suspect it might be overcomplicated for my needs, but I welcome any pointers on this, like some introduction or how-to which might get me started. Obviously I'm going to search myself, but just in case you know of a very well done document... :) bye & Thanks av. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Dec 11 13:42:25 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1BAD516A420 for ; Sun, 11 Dec 2005 13:42:25 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ohmer@epita.info) Received: from marge.cload.net (marge.cload.net [213.41.172.209]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 243D043D78 for ; Sun, 11 Dec 2005 13:42:19 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ohmer@epita.info) Received: (qmail 35846 invoked by uid 80); 11 Dec 2005 14:45:44 +0100 Received: from 213.41.241.56 (SquirrelMail authenticated user ohmer@epita.info) by webmail.epita.info with HTTP; Sun, 11 Dec 2005 14:45:44 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <64508.213.41.241.56.1134308744.squirrel@webmail.epita.info> In-Reply-To: <439C1EAC.6090102@crc.u-strasbg.fr> References: <51053.213.41.241.56.1134240324.squirrel@webmail.epita.info> <439C1EAC.6090102@crc.u-strasbg.fr> Date: Sun, 11 Dec 2005 14:45:44 +0100 (CET) From: "oHmEr" To: "Philippe Pegon" User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.5 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: ifconfig can't remove aliases X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: ohmer@epita.info List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 11 Dec 2005 13:42:25 -0000 On Dim 11 décembre 2005 13:42, Philippe Pegon wrote: > > try : > > $ sudo ifconfig dc0 inet6 2001:7a8:b138::1 delete > > or > > $ sudo ifconfig dc0 inet6 2001:7a8:b138::1 -alias > > in ifconfig(8) : > > SYNOPSIS > ifconfig [-L] [-k] [-m] interface [create] [address_family] > [address [dest_address]] [parameters] > > parameters is in the end (like delete or -alias) thanks ! it's working, i just had to rtfm. i didn't as i always ordered my options like this and it was working on 5.4-STABLE system : $ uname -a FreeBSD marge.cload.net 5.4-STABLE FreeBSD 5.4-STABLE #3: Sat Nov 26 19:12:49 CET 2005 root@marge.cload.net:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/MARGE i386 $ ifconfig fxp0 inet6 fxp0: flags=9843 mtu 1500 options=8 inet6 fe80::202:a5ff:fe51:2de3%fxp0 prefixlen 64 scopeid 0x1 inet6 2001:7a8:6cd1::1 prefixlen 48 inet6 2001:7a8:6cd1::caca prefixlen 48 $ sudo ifconfig fxp0 inet6 -alias 2001:7a8:6cd1::caca $ ifconfig fxp0 inet6 fxp0: flags=9843 mtu 1500 options=8 inet6 fe80::202:a5ff:fe51:2de3%fxp0 prefixlen 64 scopeid 0x1 inet6 2001:7a8:6cd1::1 prefixlen 48 anyway, it's not very important as man page syntax is both case working. however, the ifconfig option parser could have been more helpful by printing the token on which it detected an error. i'd have guess that "-alias" was an invalid inet6 address... -- Matthieu Michaud - EPITA 2007 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Dec 11 14:34:07 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D1BD916A41F for ; Sun, 11 Dec 2005 14:34:07 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from danial_thom@yahoo.com) Received: from web33304.mail.mud.yahoo.com (web33304.mail.mud.yahoo.com [68.142.206.119]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 4747B43D5F for ; Sun, 11 Dec 2005 14:33:53 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from danial_thom@yahoo.com) Received: (qmail 68094 invoked by uid 60001); 11 Dec 2005 14:33:49 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:Received:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=n076K0NDBfb5QqZTYZzRzmwPO0xVSUKfkd4PbdJPPyTWjQFM2fUSisbLh2wHkHKCec0YKgZNbRTGed0yzHHDI9Y4rmfsl0SGSNM32tnneD9U+Aim2jc/zOCPzrMSssoXxrUerG5Uk4AZxfMmKq1HysWe3PVndqGEsRy5wiracYI= ; Message-ID: <20051211143349.68091.qmail@web33304.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Received: from [24.46.186.215] by web33304.mail.mud.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sun, 11 Dec 2005 06:33:49 PST Date: Sun, 11 Dec 2005 06:33:49 -0800 (PST) From: Danial Thom To: Kris Kennaway In-Reply-To: <20051210212424.GA80660@xor.obsecurity.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, Kris Kennaway Subject: Re: Freebsd Theme Song X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: danial_thom@yahoo.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 11 Dec 2005 14:34:08 -0000 --- Kris Kennaway wrote: > On Sat, Dec 10, 2005 at 01:14:18PM -0800, > Danial Thom wrote: > > > Well thats just hogwash Kris. Pure bridging > > performance is a measure of the efficiency of > the > > kernel to do rote tasks like respond to > > interrupts, and the latencies in performing > those > > tasks. Its the best way, IMO, to exercise and > > measure the efficiency of an isolated kernel. > It > > requires no userland activity, so your > results > > aren't muddled by millions of system calls. > Its a > > way to compare apples to apples, which is how > > good testing is done. > > > > As long as you don't have your filesystem on > a > > network, you're in good shape. But thats not > even > > the point. The point is that the purpose of > > tearing apart 4.x was to go MP, and MP > > performance is dismill across the board. > > This statement is simply false. It's actually > quite funny to read. > > For the readers at home: Denial is once again > taking his narrow view > of the world ("everything about the OS is > accurately measured by how > fast the kernel routes network packets!") and > extrapolating it to > infinity, then jumping up and down about it. Whats "false" about it, Kris? First of all, I didn't say that everything about the kernel can be accurately measured by such a test, so why did you twist it to fit your agenda? Its a "good way" to test the interrupt and process switching mechanisms in an isolated kernel. Also, since you don't see to understand the test, bridging is not routing. Its a rote function of moving packets from one interface to another with very little overhead. Its purely interrupt driven, so the kernel's latencies in processing interrupts is well exercised. Its a good test because, unlike crap like netperf, it doesn't involve sockets or any userland tasks. I know you're not a real engineer Kris, so I don't expect you to understand, but you also aren't qualified to discredit the test, since you don't know a damn thing about testing. I know you enjoy being the one-eyed man in the land of the blind on this list Kris, But I doubt people are stupid enough to buy into your continued propaganda. There isn't one credible test that shows that FreeBSD MP is worth any consideration as a good performer, so it seems doubtful that anyone with half a brain thinks it is. Everything today is networking. What good is a fast filesystem if it sits on a klunky kernel or slow networking system? Who's going to build a big honking MP server if is can't handle more network traffic than a good UP system? Do you have a volkwagon engine in your Porche, Kris? The problem with Kris is that he thinks that if his car has a really cool radio that people will buy it, even those its slow as shit. That may be fine for the kind of guys that hang out on the freebsd-questions list, or for little old ladies. But its not "fine" with the kind of people that used to rely on FreeBSD for serious networking tasks. Kris is just a PR front man for a "team" of developers that is lost. Their "theory" on how to build a better mousetrap for MP is completely wrong, and now they're going to try something else, using the entire FreeBSD community as guinea pigs. First 5.4 was the answer. Then 6.0. Now it looks like 6.0 sucks too. Its a damn shame. DT __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Dec 11 14:39:05 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5C1CD16A41F for ; Sun, 11 Dec 2005 14:39:05 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from freebsd-questions-local@be-well.ilk.org) Received: from mail8.sea5.speakeasy.net (mail8.sea5.speakeasy.net [69.17.117.10]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C714E43D81 for ; Sun, 11 Dec 2005 14:38:57 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from freebsd-questions-local@be-well.ilk.org) Received: (qmail 32387 invoked from network); 11 Dec 2005 14:38:57 -0000 Received: from dsl092-078-145.bos1.dsl.speakeasy.net (HELO be-well.ilk.org) ([66.92.78.145]) (envelope-sender ) by mail8.sea5.speakeasy.net (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for ; 11 Dec 2005 14:38:57 -0000 Received: by be-well.ilk.org (Postfix, from userid 1147) id 23A572841D; Sun, 11 Dec 2005 09:38:56 -0500 (EST) Sender: lowell@be-well.ilk.org To: Ian Moore References: <200512110916.28583.no-spam@swiftdsl.com.au> From: Lowell Gilbert Date: 11 Dec 2005 09:38:56 -0500 In-Reply-To: <200512110916.28583.no-spam@swiftdsl.com.au> Message-ID: <44slszd7gf.fsf@be-well.ilk.org> Lines: 29 User-Agent: Gnus/5.09 (Gnus v5.9.0) Emacs/21.3 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Removing a port without upsetting dependencies X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 11 Dec 2005 14:39:05 -0000 Ian Moore writes: > Hi, > I have mplayer installed and at one stage I installed the mplayer-skins port > as well. Then I got sick of dealing with the skins port being broken a lot > because the source files are often unfetchable, so I removed the port (I > can't remember what method I used to do that now). > > Ever since, when I do a portupgrade & mplayer or various ports that it is a > dependency of get updated, my ports database gets upset because those ports > are marked as having mplayer-skins as a stale dependency. > > For example, today I have: > Stale dependency: mplayerplug-in-3.17 --> mplayer-skins-1.1.2_1 -- manually > run 'pkgdb -F' to fix, or specify -O to force. > > I generally either delete the dependency or link it to mplayer-gtk-esound, but > the dependency comes back next time mplayerplug-in gets updated. > > I assume I've just used the wrong method for deleting the mplayer-skins port & > I need to re-install & delete it the correct way. If I'm right, how should I > do that? > > If not, is there a way I can permanently remove the mplayer-skins port and not > have it appear as a dependency of other ports? Modify those "other ports," I guess. That's kind of what dependency means; they "depend" on the dependencies... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Dec 11 14:44:04 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2AF5C16A41F for ; Sun, 11 Dec 2005 14:44:04 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from fun@thingy.apana.org.au) Received: from rutherford.zen.co.uk (rutherford.zen.co.uk [212.23.3.142]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 491C843D64 for ; Sun, 11 Dec 2005 14:43:57 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from fun@thingy.apana.org.au) Received: from [82.71.1.109] (helo=[10.0.1.135]) by rutherford.zen.co.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1ElSQO-0002Xz-Gw for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sun, 11 Dec 2005 14:43:40 +0000 Message-ID: <439C3AF2.3050400@thingy.apana.org.au> Date: Sun, 11 Dec 2005 14:42:58 +0000 From: David Gerard User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.7 (X11/20051013) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <20051211143349.68091.qmail@web33304.mail.mud.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <20051211143349.68091.qmail@web33304.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Originating-Rutherford-IP: [82.71.1.109] Subject: Re: Freebsd Theme Song X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 11 Dec 2005 14:44:04 -0000 Danial Thom wrote: > developers that is lost. Their "theory" on how to > build a better mousetrap for MP is completely > wrong, and now they're going to try something > else, using the entire FreeBSD community as > guinea pigs. First 5.4 was the answer. Then 6.0. > Now it looks like 6.0 sucks too. Its a damn > shame. Question: how's DragonFly looking on this score? I realise it's not production ready, but the project intrigues me. - d. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Dec 11 14:47:48 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7CD3B16A41F for ; Sun, 11 Dec 2005 14:47:48 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from racerx@makeworld.com) Received: from makeworld.com (makeworld.com [216.201.118.142]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 700DA43D67 for ; Sun, 11 Dec 2005 14:47:46 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from racerx@makeworld.com) Received: from localhost (localhost.com [127.0.0.1]) by makeworld.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8AA576434; Sun, 11 Dec 2005 08:47:45 -0600 (CST) Received: from makeworld.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (makeworld.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 00734-06; Sun, 11 Dec 2005 08:47:42 -0600 (CST) Received: by makeworld.com (Postfix, from userid 1008) id B67196429; Sun, 11 Dec 2005 08:47:42 -0600 (CST) Received: from [216.201.118.138] (racerx.makeworld.com [216.201.118.138]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by makeworld.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 366A262B0; Sun, 11 Dec 2005 08:47:42 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <439C3C3F.8070404@makeworld.com> Date: Sun, 11 Dec 2005 08:48:31 -0600 From: Chris User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.7 (X11/20051204) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: danial_thom@yahoo.com References: <20051211143349.68091.qmail@web33304.mail.mud.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <20051211143349.68091.qmail@web33304.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new-2.3.3 (20050822) at makeworld.com - FreeBSD:The Power To Serve Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, Kris Kennaway Subject: Re: Freebsd Theme Song X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: RacerX@makeworld.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 11 Dec 2005 14:47:48 -0000 Danial Thom wrote: > Kris is just a PR front man for a "team" of > developers that is lost. Their "theory" on how to > build a better mousetrap for MP is completely > wrong, and now they're going to try something > else, using the entire FreeBSD community as > guinea pigs. First 5.4 was the answer. Then 6.0. > Now it looks like 6.0 sucks too. Its a damn > shame. > > DT IF you are such a man that can actually call himself an engineer - why hide behind Yahoo mail? Next, IF you are as you claim to be - WHY are you not on the "team" or at least contributing code? To insult one person for not seeing your point of view is a show of closed mindedness - to insult a whole list of users ... Well, I do think that speaks volumes about you - as a whole. If you feel the need to insult Kris - keep it off-list. If you feel the need to insult the rest of us, you may be better off seeking help in the real world and moving on. Why would you continually expose yourself to us if we make you that unhappy? Or - is it a craving you need to satisfy by either bitching and moaning or insulting us to make yourself feel superior? If that's the case - then professional help is for you. Seek it, feel better about yourself - and move on. -- Best regards, Chris A Smith and Wesson beats four aces. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Dec 11 14:56:47 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 770F716A41F for ; Sun, 11 Dec 2005 14:56:47 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jimmy@jamesbailie.com) Received: from smtp105.rog.mail.re2.yahoo.com (smtp105.rog.mail.re2.yahoo.com [206.190.36.83]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id AB70243D66 for ; Sun, 11 Dec 2005 14:56:45 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jimmy@jamesbailie.com) Received: (qmail 44114 invoked from network); 11 Dec 2005 14:56:45 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?70.29.126.205?) (jazzturk@rogers.com@70.29.126.205 with plain) by smtp105.rog.mail.re2.yahoo.com with SMTP; 11 Dec 2005 14:56:45 -0000 Message-ID: <439C3E2C.80302@jamesbailie.com> Date: Sun, 11 Dec 2005 09:56:44 -0500 From: James Bailie User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.7 (X11/20051112) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <200512111207.49635.freebsdbeni@spymac.com> In-Reply-To: <200512111207.49635.freebsdbeni@spymac.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: changing shell X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 11 Dec 2005 14:56:47 -0000 FreeBsdBeni wrote: > root@PCBSD:/home/beni> chsh -s /usr/local/bin/bash beni > chsh: user information updated > root@PCBSD:/home/beni> This should work if you are truly root, as the prompt suggests. If you are not, then you need to modify /etc/shells to include bash before invoking chsh. > beni@PCBSD:~> echo $path > > beni@PCBSD:~> > > Any hints on the why of this ? When not invoked as a login shell, bash does not read /etc/profile or ~/.profile. -- James Bailie http://www.jamesbailie.com From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Dec 11 15:08:06 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 50EC916A41F for ; Sun, 11 Dec 2005 15:08:06 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from v.cristescu@gmail.com) Received: from nproxy.gmail.com (nproxy.gmail.com [64.233.182.193]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 272BC43D6D for ; Sun, 11 Dec 2005 15:08:04 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from v.cristescu@gmail.com) Received: by nproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id c29so410596nfb for ; Sun, 11 Dec 2005 07:08:02 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:from:to:subject:date:user-agent:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:message-id; b=HHlgXxRlOnX17qFprS8A2H/7PIid+nwjQz2qc8UIbgAGnkzpQ5nHf/mtaoESHhyK4Kb7FiV2U7/eKmsifPNLGKWueLFRLao5KBY0sBmHKMgWgeF105cq+uyz0CI/fUcxW6+dopC5SCJFx1+aHGugMOgimOtvnI3SHN4x/Z81wbQ= Received: by 10.49.5.10 with SMTP id h10mr688603nfi; Sun, 11 Dec 2005 07:08:02 -0800 (PST) Received: from ?172.23.4.178? ( [193.226.6.229]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id r33sm1385490nfc.2005.12.11.07.08.01; Sun, 11 Dec 2005 07:08:02 -0800 (PST) From: Vasile C To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Sun, 11 Dec 2005 17:08:03 +0200 User-Agent: KMail/1.8.3 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="nextPart1897498.WNLOyNz4sY"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=pgp-sha1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <200512111708.08171.v.cristescu@gmail.com> Subject: cvsup question X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 11 Dec 2005 15:08:06 -0000 --nextPart1897498.WNLOyNz4sY Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline How can I modify the cvsup reconnect time form 5 to 1 min ? =2D-=20 Regards , Vasile C --nextPart1897498.WNLOyNz4sY Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.2 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQBDnEDY0IQ7kyLk6voRAgMsAJwNrpvnhyviA6BQ7RScslbUwU7H+ACdEb4Y ebLojbxitKU2VUgb2W0sMiU= =orHI -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --nextPart1897498.WNLOyNz4sY-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Dec 11 15:34:00 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D380516A41F for ; Sun, 11 Dec 2005 15:34:00 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from iqgrande@gmail.com) Received: from xproxy.gmail.com (xproxy.gmail.com [66.249.82.205]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 569DC43D60 for ; Sun, 11 Dec 2005 15:34:00 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from iqgrande@gmail.com) Received: by xproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id s7so920431wxc for ; Sun, 11 Dec 2005 07:33:59 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type; b=VIM4bqVDjKuD8mS8ChFW7eDSl5sFM7NIgBc6gPl1Q+TD/ZcngZ7HZxMWA0mxBhseSZ/mwpZTg5As6xSv85f8O8Z5GqjVzAAac2w4iXBIQeHIBZMmFeKd81Bc2hKffOd4Qn3NQA8M+Q3qjkAJ8e/rNWDZQQiHN3XvkEGw0CCMuBg= Received: by 10.70.126.2 with SMTP id y2mr6951871wxc; Sun, 11 Dec 2005 07:33:57 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.70.104.10 with HTTP; Sun, 11 Dec 2005 07:33:57 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <8a6250b20512110733v55ecd95dn27a6138ab1db59b5@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sun, 11 Dec 2005 10:33:57 -0500 From: Anthony Agelastos To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: moused hanging X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 11 Dec 2005 15:34:00 -0000 Hello everyone, For an unknown reason, my mouse lately has been hanging. It has hung with X11 running and without X11 running. To fix it, I get to a prompt (usually via Ctrl+Alt+F1 as it tends to happen primarily when in X) and, as root, I execute % kill mousedPID % moused -p /dev/psm0 % vidcontrol -m on and, if there is music playing, it slurs for several seconds when I initially move the mouse, and then it is back to working along with the mouse. If memory serves, this problem started occurring when I configured the mouse to use the scrollwheel. To do this, I followed the instructions per the FreeBSD FAQ. http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/faq/x.html#X-AND-WHEEL What the FAQ mentions is only related to X11. It has failed on me once when I booted up FBSD prior to any startx-type of command being run. I have been running the same version of 6.0-STABLE for over a month now and this proble= m has started noticeably occurring a couple of weeks ago. Does anyone have an= y ideas? Some additional pertinent information is below. Thank you to everyon= e who helps and has helped make FreeBSD a great community. > uname -a FreeBSD ast.home.iq 6.0-STABLE FreeBSD 6.0-STABLE #0: Sat Nov 5 21:29:34 EST 2005 root@ast.home.iq:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/IQKERNEL i386 > moused -p /dev/psm0 -i type sysmouse > cat /etc/rc.conf | grep moused moused_enable=3D"YES" moused_type=3D'auto' moused_port=3D'/dev/psm0' I wanted to mention here that when I change moused_type from auto to ps/2, it appears to behave more stable. However, in doing this, the scrollwheel ceases to work in X11. I wanted to also mention that I checked out the FAQ, Google, and the Handbook and came up empty with all of them . From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Dec 11 15:38:14 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F2BAD16A41F for ; Sun, 11 Dec 2005 15:38:13 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from danial_thom@yahoo.com) Received: from web33311.mail.mud.yahoo.com (web33311.mail.mud.yahoo.com [68.142.206.126]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 41FBE43D55 for ; Sun, 11 Dec 2005 15:38:13 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from danial_thom@yahoo.com) Received: (qmail 77700 invoked by uid 60001); 11 Dec 2005 15:38:12 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:Received:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=SPqUDqwKfNicmWm0grREZPw+1UfRlod/KErkVB1+uKNk3T3nsZX70J/lXjuW0DWDZdzJUZ6YcpZVJJcPiZoT0yQxxKDKRO+C+8rTiwsC4zJBXhvoYwLvN/IM4Sjq/gKYxo7h7CtBRKyAvriEJaLCC9yJwmsdloTsgZP2FW0dHs0= ; Message-ID: <20051211153812.77698.qmail@web33311.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Received: from [24.46.186.215] by web33311.mail.mud.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sun, 11 Dec 2005 07:38:12 PST Date: Sun, 11 Dec 2005 07:38:12 -0800 (PST) From: Danial Thom To: RacerX@makeworld.com In-Reply-To: <439C3C3F.8070404@makeworld.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, Kris Kennaway Subject: Re: Freebsd Theme Song X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: danial_thom@yahoo.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 11 Dec 2005 15:38:14 -0000 Because those of us with real jobs are required to do so. Kris doesn't just not see my point. If you can't see that then you can't be reasoned with either. --- Chris wrote: > Danial Thom wrote: > > > Kris is just a PR front man for a "team" of > > developers that is lost. Their "theory" on > how to > > build a better mousetrap for MP is completely > > wrong, and now they're going to try something > > else, using the entire FreeBSD community as > > guinea pigs. First 5.4 was the answer. Then > 6.0. > > Now it looks like 6.0 sucks too. Its a damn > > shame. > > > > DT > > IF you are such a man that can actually call > himself an engineer - why > hide behind Yahoo mail? > > Next, IF you are as you claim to be - WHY are > you not on the "team" or > at least contributing code? > > To insult one person for not seeing your point > of view is a show of > closed mindedness - to insult a whole list of > users ... Well, I do think > that speaks volumes about you - as a whole. > > If you feel the need to insult Kris - keep it > off-list. If you feel the > need to insult the rest of us, you may be > better off seeking help in the > real world and moving on. > > Why would you continually expose yourself to us > if we make you that > unhappy? > > Or - is it a craving you need to satisfy by > either bitching and moaning > or insulting us to make yourself feel superior? > > If that's the case - then professional help is > for you. Seek it, feel > better about yourself - and move on. > > -- > Best regards, > Chris > > A Smith and Wesson beats four aces. > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Dec 11 15:46:51 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6424916A41F for ; Sun, 11 Dec 2005 15:46:51 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from racerx@makeworld.com) Received: from makeworld.com (makeworld.com [216.201.118.142]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0D03043D53 for ; Sun, 11 Dec 2005 15:46:38 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from racerx@makeworld.com) Received: from localhost (localhost.com [127.0.0.1]) by makeworld.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 004766434; Sun, 11 Dec 2005 09:46:34 -0600 (CST) Received: from makeworld.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (makeworld.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 01022-09; Sun, 11 Dec 2005 09:46:31 -0600 (CST) Received: by makeworld.com (Postfix, from userid 1008) id 86CEF6429; Sun, 11 Dec 2005 09:46:31 -0600 (CST) Received: from [216.201.118.138] (racerx.makeworld.com [216.201.118.138]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by makeworld.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 51A4E62B0; Sun, 11 Dec 2005 09:46:31 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <439C4A08.7040809@makeworld.com> Date: Sun, 11 Dec 2005 09:47:20 -0600 From: Chris User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.7 (X11/20051204) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: danial_thom@yahoo.com References: <20051211153812.77698.qmail@web33311.mail.mud.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <20051211153812.77698.qmail@web33311.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new-2.3.3 (20050822) at makeworld.com - FreeBSD:The Power To Serve Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, Kris Kennaway Subject: Re: Freebsd Theme Song X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: RacerX@makeworld.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 11 Dec 2005 15:46:51 -0000 Danial Thom wrote: >>>Kris is just a PR front man for a "team" of >>>developers that is lost. Their "theory" on >> >>how to >> >>>build a better mousetrap for MP is completely >>>wrong, and now they're going to try something >>>else, using the entire FreeBSD community as >>>guinea pigs. First 5.4 was the answer. Then >> >>6.0. >> >>>Now it looks like 6.0 sucks too. Its a damn >>>shame. >>> >>>DT >> >>IF you are such a man that can actually call >>himself an engineer - why >>hide behind Yahoo mail? >> >>Next, IF you are as you claim to be - WHY are >>you not on the "team" or >>at least contributing code? >> >>To insult one person for not seeing your point >>of view is a show of >>closed mindedness - to insult a whole list of >>users ... Well, I do think >>that speaks volumes about you - as a whole. >> >>If you feel the need to insult Kris - keep it >>off-list. If you feel the >>need to insult the rest of us, you may be >>better off seeking help in the >>real world and moving on. >> >>Why would you continually expose yourself to us >>if we make you that >>unhappy? >> >>Or - is it a craving you need to satisfy by >>either bitching and moaning >>or insulting us to make yourself feel superior? >> >>If that's the case - then professional help is >>for you. Seek it, feel >>better about yourself - and move on. >> >>-- >>Best regards, >>Chris >> > Because those of us with real jobs are required > to do so. > > Kris doesn't just not see my point. If you can't > see that then you can't be reasoned with either. > See - there you go. The need to belittle. "those of us with real job" I guess all of us that have legit email address and NOT any of the freebie ones don't have legit jobs. I assume that's how you meant it. It does not matter whether I see your point or Kris's. The point that I'm making is simply this - if all that disagree with your point of view, are the ones that can't be reasoned with. That my friend - is surely showing us that YOU can't be reasoned with. It's either your point of view or not. You are right, and if we can't see it or don't agree, then we're wrong and can't be dealt with. You my friend, NEED that professional help. I think I am beginning to see why you use a freebie email address. Case in point - if your employer were to see that it's really you - they might see that you may need some help. Just an observation - from someone that you can't reason with, and most likely - don't have a real job because I don't have a Yahoo email address. -- Best regards, Chris Don't let your superiors know you're better than they are. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Dec 11 15:51:54 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D6D5916A41F for ; Sun, 11 Dec 2005 15:51:54 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from danial_thom@yahoo.com) Received: from web33310.mail.mud.yahoo.com (web33310.mail.mud.yahoo.com [68.142.206.125]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 8217043D88 for ; Sun, 11 Dec 2005 15:51:46 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from danial_thom@yahoo.com) Received: (qmail 56924 invoked by uid 60001); 11 Dec 2005 15:51:45 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:Received:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=oGHuXEBJxuuBXV2A4lnTEcx6UIgOpU+BU8qI+Woet8XWF8+52amE44slEzANXmseW11io2d3xCEEubhZshpNucWdEiei8AEdyC4Iw/iAPpHcdWe1xsLN7jLVFrNYth15Sj5EbUreuczipUUMeeIAuU3J4FCW7PaUlMQvJhuJICY= ; Message-ID: <20051211155145.56922.qmail@web33310.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Received: from [24.46.186.215] by web33310.mail.mud.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sun, 11 Dec 2005 07:51:45 PST Date: Sun, 11 Dec 2005 07:51:45 -0800 (PST) From: Danial Thom To: David Gerard , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <439C3AF2.3050400@thingy.apana.org.au> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Cc: Subject: Re: Freebsd Theme Song X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: danial_thom@yahoo.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 11 Dec 2005 15:51:55 -0000 --- David Gerard wrote: > Danial Thom wrote: > > > developers that is lost. Their "theory" on > how to > > build a better mousetrap for MP is completely > > wrong, and now they're going to try something > > else, using the entire FreeBSD community as > > guinea pigs. First 5.4 was the answer. Then > 6.0. > > Now it looks like 6.0 sucks too. Its a damn > > shame. > > > Question: how's DragonFly looking on this > score? I realise it's not > production ready, but the project intrigues me. For UP, they are about the same as Freebsd, performance-wise. DP DFKY is already much better, at least from a consistency standpoint. With FreeBSD some things are actually slower DP than UP. At least DFLY has somewhat linear performance, although far from optimal. Of course FreeBSD has more bells and whistles that work, as DFLY is not focused on features at the moment. Of course Matt is difficult to convince of anything, and he's trying to do everything by himself. He has tremendous strengths but will never admit to his areas of weakness, which is a big problem. But I think fundamentally their approach is a good one. Its going to be a lot easier for DFLY to adjust on the fly then FreeBSD. FreeBSD is just a big mess, IMO. But I may retire before either of them are what they hope to be. And I'm not that old :-) anyone tested OPenBSD lately? DT __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Dec 11 16:05:43 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2A2FA16A41F for ; Sun, 11 Dec 2005 16:05:43 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from mbaki@whywire.com) Received: from eastrmmtao03.cox.net (eastrmmtao03.cox.net [68.230.240.36]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6E10643D67 for ; Sun, 11 Dec 2005 16:05:35 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from mbaki@whywire.com) Received: from marvin.whywire.com ([68.227.194.65]) by eastrmmtao03.cox.net (InterMail vM.6.01.05.02 201-2131-123-102-20050715) with ESMTP id <20051211160353.PADF29285.eastrmmtao03.cox.net@marvin.whywire.com> for ; Sun, 11 Dec 2005 11:03:53 -0500 Received: from [192.168.2.222] ([192.168.2.222]) by marvin.whywire.com (8.13.4/8.12.11) with ESMTP id jBBCUd56030938 for ; Sun, 11 Dec 2005 07:30:44 -0500 (EST) Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v746.2) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <75EEA63A-5433-418D-AC2B-74E4F6225D02@whywire.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: Monah Baki Date: Sun, 11 Dec 2005 11:05:22 -0500 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.746.2) Subject: Freebsd 5.4+samba X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 11 Dec 2005 16:05:43 -0000 Hi all, I just installed Freebsd 5.4 with samba 3.x, I'm running a calyx software, and the 6 clients are winxp. The smb.conf is as simple as possible. I noticed that some clients are very slow to connect to the share drive and run a database search. The server is a dell 8400 optiplex, no scsi HDD (sata I think), 3Ghz and 512MB Ram. I was wandering if there's a way to optimize samba, or freebsd. Right now performance wise is worse then when they connect to the same database on a win2003 server and I need to get the win2003 server out of the picture. Thank you From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Dec 11 16:21:55 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BBB0616A420 for ; Sun, 11 Dec 2005 16:21:55 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from cswiger@mac.com) Received: from pi.codefab.com (pi.codefab.com [199.103.21.227]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EE9A543D5E for ; Sun, 11 Dec 2005 16:21:54 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from cswiger@mac.com) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pi.codefab.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D1BE55FFF; Sun, 11 Dec 2005 11:21:53 -0500 (EST) Received: from pi.codefab.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (pi.codefab.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 85494-08; Sun, 11 Dec 2005 11:21:51 -0500 (EST) Received: from [192.168.1.3] (pool-68-161-122-227.ny325.east.verizon.net [68.161.122.227]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by pi.codefab.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3BCA25D8F; Sun, 11 Dec 2005 11:21:51 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <439C521E.9080303@mac.com> Date: Sun, 11 Dec 2005 11:21:50 -0500 From: Chuck Swiger Organization: The Courts of Chaos User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.7 (Windows/20050923) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Vasile C References: <200512111708.08171.v.cristescu@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <200512111708.08171.v.cristescu@gmail.com> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.93.0.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at codefab.com Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: cvsup question X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 11 Dec 2005 16:21:55 -0000 Vasile C wrote: > How can I modify the cvsup reconnect time form 5 to 1 min ? A more useful approach would be to switch to downloading from another cvsup server... -- -Chuck From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Dec 11 16:26:33 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 237E616A41F for ; Sun, 11 Dec 2005 16:26:33 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from v.cristescu@gmail.com) Received: from nproxy.gmail.com (nproxy.gmail.com [64.233.182.201]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A0B8843D5E for ; Sun, 11 Dec 2005 16:26:22 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from v.cristescu@gmail.com) Received: by nproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id h2so415634nfe for ; Sun, 11 Dec 2005 08:26:21 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:from:to:subject:date:user-agent:references:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:message-id; b=eykOgariL8RROrPy5eHvYeWr9d5qDaKMy0InZuzE0BdC/2dUn8dL70e6WHIXkvepst1CrxkmaOhdk26l2y+BZJOiTZepTbH6TZ2K90Ki+b/sbYDCfOAr8VL90iPiFjcAre1FIMHF4bqSy7W+Zm6jFtYqatal/MdcXRBRu3fwVVM= Received: by 10.48.164.14 with SMTP id m14mr675694nfe; Sun, 11 Dec 2005 08:26:20 -0800 (PST) Received: from ?172.23.4.178? ( [193.226.6.229]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id a24sm1386687nfc.2005.12.11.08.26.19; Sun, 11 Dec 2005 08:26:20 -0800 (PST) From: Vasile C To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Sun, 11 Dec 2005 18:26:24 +0200 User-Agent: KMail/1.8.3 References: <200512111708.08171.v.cristescu@gmail.com> <439C521E.9080303@mac.com> In-Reply-To: <439C521E.9080303@mac.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="nextPart1325791.zsB5yrsnHb"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=pgp-sha1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <200512111826.27242.v.cristescu@gmail.com> Subject: Re: cvsup question X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 11 Dec 2005 16:26:33 -0000 --nextPart1325791.zsB5yrsnHb Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline I have a script in cron that does cvsup and portupgrade ... That is why I w= ant=20 to change the reconnect time .. On Sunday 11 December 2005 18:21, Chuck Swiger wrote: > Vasile C wrote: > > How can I modify the cvsup reconnect time form 5 to 1 min ? > > A more useful approach would be to switch to downloading from another cvs= up > server... =2D-=20 Regards , Vasile C If UNIX doesn't have the solution you have the wrong problem. UNIX is simple, but it takes a genius to understand it's simplicity. --nextPart1325791.zsB5yrsnHb Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.2 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQBDnFMz0IQ7kyLk6voRAjJfAJ97TW7lyzERF4f1SKSKHA7bhwBhfACbBTaB vGwHs6fGU/7HmAlTYcF8IX0= =1k4e -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --nextPart1325791.zsB5yrsnHb-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Dec 11 16:32:55 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D055216A41F for ; Sun, 11 Dec 2005 16:32:55 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from cswiger@mac.com) Received: from pi.codefab.com (pi.codefab.com [199.103.21.227]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 06E8943D5D for ; Sun, 11 Dec 2005 16:32:55 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from cswiger@mac.com) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pi.codefab.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 694A75FFF; Sun, 11 Dec 2005 11:32:54 -0500 (EST) Received: from pi.codefab.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (pi.codefab.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 72939-10; Sun, 11 Dec 2005 11:32:53 -0500 (EST) Received: from [192.168.1.3] (pool-68-161-122-227.ny325.east.verizon.net [68.161.122.227]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by pi.codefab.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7FF695FCC; Sun, 11 Dec 2005 11:32:53 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <439C54B5.6000606@mac.com> Date: Sun, 11 Dec 2005 11:32:53 -0500 From: Chuck Swiger Organization: The Courts of Chaos User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.7 (Windows/20050923) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Vasile C References: <200512111708.08171.v.cristescu@gmail.com> <439C521E.9080303@mac.com> <200512111826.27242.v.cristescu@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <200512111826.27242.v.cristescu@gmail.com> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.93.0.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at codefab.com Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: cvsup question X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 11 Dec 2005 16:32:55 -0000 Vasile C wrote: >> A more useful approach would be to switch to downloading from another cvsup >> server... > I have a script in cron that does cvsup and portupgrade ... That is why I want > to change the reconnect time .. I hope this is a testbed and is not a production system. Automaticly running portupgrade on a production system is a mistake... -- -Chuck From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Dec 11 16:54:46 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6F1CF16A41F for ; Sun, 11 Dec 2005 16:54:46 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from gerard@seibercom.net) Received: from smtp3.suscom.net (smtp3.suscom.net [64.78.119.250]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D099643D6B for ; Sun, 11 Dec 2005 16:54:37 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from gerard@seibercom.net) Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by smtp3.suscom.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4ADF32115FF for ; Sun, 11 Dec 2005 11:54:35 -0500 (EST) Received: from smtp3.suscom.net ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (smtp3.suscom.net [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 25762-03-25 for ; Sun, 11 Dec 2005 11:54:28 -0500 (EST) Received: from seibercom.net (ip148.217.susc.suscom.net [216.45.217.148]) by smtp3.suscom.net (Postfix) with SMTP id 8543F2115FE for ; Sun, 11 Dec 2005 11:54:28 -0500 (EST) Received: from [192.168.0.2] (//gerard [192.168.0.2]) by seibercom.net (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id jBBGsQPx006578 for ; Sun, 11 Dec 2005 11:54:28 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from gerard@seibercom.net) Date: Sun, 11 Dec 2005 11:54:29 -0500 From: Gerard Seibert To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sender: gerard@seibercom.net Organization: Seibercom.net In-Reply-To: <200512111826.27242.v.cristescu@gmail.com> References: <439C521E.9080303@mac.com> <200512111826.27242.v.cristescu@gmail.com> X-Face: "\j?x](l|]4p?-1Bf@!wN<&p=$.}^k-HgL}cJKbQZ3r#Ar]\%U(#6}'?<3s7%(%(gxJxxcR nSNPNr*/^~StawWU9KDJ-CT0k$f#@t2^K&BS_f|?ZV/.7Q Message-Id: <20051211115014.157B.GERARD@seibercom.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Mailer: Becky! ver. 2.23 [en] X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at suscom.net Subject: Re: cvsup question X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 11 Dec 2005 16:54:46 -0000 On Sunday, December 11, 2005 11:26:24 AM Vasile C Subject: Re: cvsup question Wrote these words of wisdom: > I have a script in cron that does cvsup and portupgrade ... That is why I want > to change the reconnect time .. > > > On Sunday 11 December 2005 18:21, Chuck Swiger wrote: > > Vasile C wrote: > > > How can I modify the cvsup reconnect time form 5 to 1 min ? > > > > A more useful approach would be to switch to downloading from another cvsup > > server... > > -- > > Regards , Vasile C > > If UNIX doesn't have the solution you have the wrong problem. > UNIX is simple, but it takes a genius to understand it's simplicity. ***** REPLY SEPARATOR ***** On 10/11/2005 5:29:42 PM, Gerard Replied: I have a script, run from CRON also, that runs cvsup, portsdb -Uu and then portupgrade. Since each succeeding program will not run until the preceding one has finished, I have no need to change the timing on cvsup. Are you perhaps trying to run each program individually from CRON, rather than through a script? -- Gerard Seibert gerard@seibercom.net A Smith & Wesson beats four aces. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Dec 11 16:55:12 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B644316A41F for ; Sun, 11 Dec 2005 16:55:12 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from danial_thom@yahoo.com) Received: from web33307.mail.mud.yahoo.com (web33307.mail.mud.yahoo.com [68.142.206.122]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 9238243D5A for ; Sun, 11 Dec 2005 16:55:09 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from danial_thom@yahoo.com) Received: (qmail 17677 invoked by uid 60001); 11 Dec 2005 16:55:09 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:Received:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=XgJI0lCleF/Q500loRxGb+Y+dApcaPIlRlP73Vg+McWyOZNvcZh5BmAaO+27F1sCVCOvpzFhPJGMiUyHcMSd5KM8vNx50AMzoL62LhvSzMV+HVc8NvORrVPN/FgvvyLq4WAcuicyFv0Z+BRJhhGKuaM6fYMDD0y/dYiGNjAonlA= ; Message-ID: <20051211165509.17675.qmail@web33307.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Received: from [24.46.186.215] by web33307.mail.mud.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sun, 11 Dec 2005 08:55:08 PST Date: Sun, 11 Dec 2005 08:55:08 -0800 (PST) From: Danial Thom To: RacerX@makeworld.com, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <439C4A08.7040809@makeworld.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Cc: Subject: Re: 5.4 vs. 6.0 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: danial_thom@yahoo.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 11 Dec 2005 16:55:12 -0000 --- Chris wrote: > Danial Thom wrote: > >>>Kris is just a PR front man for a "team" of > >>>developers that is lost. Their "theory" on > >> > >>how to > >> > >>>build a better mousetrap for MP is > completely > >>>wrong, and now they're going to try > something > >>>else, using the entire FreeBSD community as > >>>guinea pigs. First 5.4 was the answer. Then > >> > >>6.0. > >> > >>>Now it looks like 6.0 sucks too. Its a damn > >>>shame. > >>> > >>>DT > >> > >>IF you are such a man that can actually call > >>himself an engineer - why > >>hide behind Yahoo mail? My company requires it > >> > >>Next, IF you are as you claim to be - WHY are > >>you not on the "team" or > >>at least contributing code? I think your premise that all of the great engineers contribute to open source projects is broken. Perhaps Kris' participation makes him a better chum than me, and it surely says that he has a lot more time. As someone who doesn't contribute significant code (although I have contributed fixes and ideas over the years under various aliases), perhaps you might say that I have no right to criticize. I'll give you that to some extent. But, as somone who built a product on FreeBSD and has a significant financial stake in its existence, I'm mad as heck that this current "team" has taken a perfectly good O/S, arguably the best networking OS around in 4.x, and made it a lot worse. Considering that they continually bamboozle us by saying how great the next version is going to be (when they really just want to have a few 100 people test it for them), should give us a charter to be pissed off. At least if they admitted things it would help. Do some reading in lucky.freebsd.performance. They are in total denial. Every time someone complains about network performance they blame TCP settings or some other ridiculous thing. They continue to rely on netperf for their measurements, and its just not the correct way to test. The problem with netperf is that is loads a machine to capacity and measures the capacity of the system. The problem is that no-one runs their machine at 90%+ cpu. Things change when you approach "the wall" and when you load the bus, so you're not really measuring the machine under normal conditions. What you want to do is measure the CPU load under high-normal working conditions, which is more like 50-70% range. As bus bandwidth diminishes and queues fill, timings change, because non-normal conditions exist. So the measurements they use are just wrong. Or at least they are wrong in measuring the real performance of a production system. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Dec 11 17:21:25 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1B8C916A41F for ; Sun, 11 Dec 2005 17:21:25 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from v.cristescu@gmail.com) Received: from nproxy.gmail.com (nproxy.gmail.com [64.233.182.205]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6440E43D5A for ; Sun, 11 Dec 2005 17:21:24 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from v.cristescu@gmail.com) Received: by nproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id l37so428267nfc for ; Sun, 11 Dec 2005 09:21:22 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:from:to:subject:date:user-agent:references:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:message-id; b=IFeQLF7zdtIZ6RpprdfzQ+lfNqNsIiw7WDnu33fggMqS4dtQVWB24TZdtldTwifBZnO8u5mc/U5qzbeMDOUyNLud7R88e4w/t10yp0hkfvuQ+/xAGQe6Kaj5rWeujqODSCrhLXsV5xs5Y/CwAYcPl0wjcd/ZPo/tMcXK5MP8+cs= Received: by 10.48.254.13 with SMTP id b13mr709098nfi; Sun, 11 Dec 2005 09:21:22 -0800 (PST) Received: from ?172.23.4.178? ( [193.226.6.229]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id l21sm1410848nfc.2005.12.11.09.21.20; Sun, 11 Dec 2005 09:21:22 -0800 (PST) From: Vasile C To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Sun, 11 Dec 2005 19:21:23 +0200 User-Agent: KMail/1.8.3 References: <439C521E.9080303@mac.com> <200512111826.27242.v.cristescu@gmail.com> <20051211115014.157B.GERARD@seibercom.net> In-Reply-To: <20051211115014.157B.GERARD@seibercom.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="nextPart2269296.grlpVRiNzE"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=pgp-sha1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <200512111921.28072.v.cristescu@gmail.com> Subject: Re: cvsup question X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 11 Dec 2005 17:21:25 -0000 --nextPart2269296.grlpVRiNzE Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline Can someone PLEASE answer my question without asking me more questions ? Is there a way to change the reconnect time or not ? On Sunday 11 December 2005 18:54, Gerard Seibert wrote: > On Sunday, December 11, 2005 11:26:24 AM > Vasile C > Subject: Re: cvsup question > > Wrote these words of wisdom: > > I have a script in cron that does cvsup and portupgrade ... That is why= I > > want to change the reconnect time .. > > > > On Sunday 11 December 2005 18:21, Chuck Swiger wrote: > > > Vasile C wrote: > > > > How can I modify the cvsup reconnect time form 5 to 1 min ? > > > > > > A more useful approach would be to switch to downloading from another > > > cvsup server... > > > > -- > > > > Regards , Vasile C > > > > If UNIX doesn't have the solution you have the wrong problem. > > UNIX is simple, but it takes a genius to understand it's simplicity. > > ***** REPLY SEPARATOR ***** > On 10/11/2005 5:29:42 PM, Gerard Replied: > > I have a script, run from CRON also, that runs cvsup, portsdb -Uu and > then portupgrade. Since each succeeding program will not run until the > preceding one has finished, I have no need to change the timing on > cvsup. Are you perhaps trying to run each program individually from CRON, > rather than through a script? =2D-=20 Regards , Vasile C If UNIX doesn't have the solution you have the wrong problem. UNIX is simple, but it takes a genius to understand it's simplicity. --nextPart2269296.grlpVRiNzE Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.2 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQBDnGAY0IQ7kyLk6voRAsn6AJ0aLlmdYRnLQyDAPV9TRsCMOzn+qwCgh0v1 6Fe91Iqn++dps96CwvD7NW8= =kST7 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --nextPart2269296.grlpVRiNzE-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Dec 11 17:23:27 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B070B16A41F for ; Sun, 11 Dec 2005 17:23:27 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from gaynw@bristolsystems.com) Received: from fed1rmmtao11.cox.net (fed1rmmtao11.cox.net [68.230.241.28]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4F05B43D53 for ; Sun, 11 Dec 2005 17:23:26 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from gaynw@bristolsystems.com) Received: from workdog ([68.228.71.3]) by fed1rmmtao11.cox.net (InterMail vM.6.01.05.02 201-2131-123-102-20050715) with ESMTP id <20051211172237.WNKS6244.fed1rmmtao11.cox.net@workdog>; Sun, 11 Dec 2005 12:22:37 -0500 From: "Gayn Winters" To: "'Monah Baki'" , Date: Sun, 11 Dec 2005 09:23:16 -0800 Message-ID: <033601c5fe77$961bba10$6501a8c0@workdog> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.4024 In-Reply-To: <75EEA63A-5433-418D-AC2B-74E4F6225D02@whywire.com> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 Importance: Normal Cc: Subject: RE: Freebsd 5.4+samba X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 11 Dec 2005 17:23:27 -0000 > [mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org] On Behalf Of Monah Baki > Subject: Freebsd 5.4+samba > > I just installed Freebsd 5.4 with samba 3.x, I'm running a calyx > software, and the 6 clients are winxp. > The smb.conf is as simple as possible. I noticed that some clients > are very slow to connect to the share drive and run a database search. > The server is a dell 8400 optiplex, no scsi HDD (sata I think), 3Ghz > and 512MB Ram. I was wandering if there's a way to optimize samba, or > freebsd. Right now performance wise is worse then when they connect to the same > database on a win2003 server and I need to get the win2003 > server out of the picture. > I'm sure you'll get a lot of help on this forum, but I suggest you split your problem up. Focus first on your server: How is it configured? Have you tested the performance of file IO locally? Are you swapping? Is anything else running besides the samba processes and calyx? Have you considered 6.0 for file performance reasons? Test the speed of your database searches locally before you worry about testing them over the network. Next the network: What hardware are you using? How is it configured? Are all clients connecting at maximum speed (typically 100mbps full duplex)? How fast is a single client file transfer (without samba and without other connections to the server? Is the network overloaded with other traffic? Since you say "some clients", what is different? Test using IP addresses not names. Next naming: If the low level network is fine, then slow connect time is usually a name resolution problem. What is different on the slow clients? Is samba your WINS server? Figure out how each client is resolving names and in particular resolving the name of the server. Do you have any "master browser" conflicts? Test each client's connect time with a non-samba program, e.g. ssh. Note ping sometimes gives you a clue if the first packet sent using a name and not an IP address times out. Check carefully that your default domain name suffixes are correct. Samba: It should be pretty fast out of the box if the above is working fine. I've never noticed any performance degradation using samba as a WINS server, and I recommend it. Turn it on in smb.conf and be sure to set it so that it wins any master browser elections. If you still think Win2003 is outperforming samba on comparable hardware, then you'll need to gather a lot more data. Calyx: I don't know anything about it. If local queries run fast (step 1), and the above are fast, then it would seem to me that its client has a problem. If it is only a client database (like QuickBooks or Access) that uses samba for its files, then you are into another class of performance problems and the calyx experts need to help you. (For example, the performance tunings for QuickBooks are much different that those for Access.) I'd recommend splitting your question to this forum up into separate questions formulating each so that it is interesting in its own right and includes what you have learned in previous steps. Best of luck, -gayn Bristol Systems Inc. 714/532-6776 www.bristolsystems.com From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Dec 11 17:27:25 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 90B2E16A41F for ; Sun, 11 Dec 2005 17:27:25 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from bt@ccgis.de) Received: from sm7.simplethings.de (a15160313.alturo-server.de [217.160.128.151]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4B5CB43D72 for ; Sun, 11 Dec 2005 17:27:20 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from bt@ccgis.de) Received: from smm.simplethings.de ([85.88.4.201]) by sm7.simplethings.de with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1ElUyf-0003CT-Mu; Sun, 11 Dec 2005 18:27:18 +0100 Received: from [212.79.172.180] (helo=center.shared) by smM.simplethings.de with esmtpsa (TLS-1.0:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA:32) (Exim 4.50) id 1ElUye-0003eA-JQ; Sun, 11 Dec 2005 18:27:12 +0100 Received: from localhost.localdomain ([127.0.0.1] helo=center.sz) by center.shared with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1ElUzW-0006o2-UK; Sun, 11 Dec 2005 18:28:07 +0100 Received: from 192.168.0.5 (proxying for 81.173.179.185) (SquirrelMail authenticated user thelen); by vogon.ccgis.de with HTTP; Sun, 11 Dec 2005 18:28:06 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <40402.192.168.0.5.1134322086.squirrel@192.168.0.5> In-Reply-To: <439ABC99.3000201@gmx.net> References: <39809.192.168.0.5.1134159325.squirrel@192.168.0.5> <439ABC99.3000201@gmx.net> Date: Sun, 11 Dec 2005 18:28:06 +0100 (CET) From: "Benjamin Thelen" To: "Michael Wichmann" User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.3a X-Mailer: SquirrelMail/1.4.3a MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal X-Spam-Score: 0.1 (/) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: openoffice-2 & openssl-beta-0.9.8a X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 11 Dec 2005 17:27:25 -0000 Hello Mike, thanks for your response! I suppose you're using the ports openssl instead of the base system. Thus your solution is definitely a good way as far as I can see, but I would like to keep the base system openssl if possible. Best, Ben > Hi Benjamin, > > I had the same problem. The solution to this problem for me was the > portupgrade "-o" option to replace openssl-beta with openssl-stable and > update all the dependencies. Have a look in the portupgrade man page. > There is an example how to use this option. For me it looked something > like 'portupgrade -o security/openssl-stable openssl-beta' to get rid of > the beta dep. > Actually I don't know at what point openssl is important to openoffice > and if this might lead to some issues. However, I didn't have any > problems so far. > Greetings, > Mike > > Benjamin Thelen wrote: >> You FreeBSD guys, >> >> This is a kind of reposting, I got no response to this question (Why? Is >> there something wrong how I write my my question(s)?), whether list >> (archives) nor google told me something _really_ helpful - just stupid >> work arounds -sorry. >> >> I suppose there are many of you using the OpenOffice-2.0 package from >> http://porting.openoffice.org/freebsd/ which requires >> openssl-beta-0.9.8a >> to be installed (I don't understand why). >> >> Installing openssl-beta from ports at first doesn't hurt. But at the >> stage >> of portupgrading next time it starts to be a pain, so I end up removing >> openoffice-2 and openssl-beta _before_ I do a portupgrade. If I don't >> remove both ports, any port that requires openssl is built with >> openssl-beta instead of openssl from the base system. If I add >> WITH_OPENSSL_BASE=yes, which seemd to be a good solution, net-snmp >> (required for kdeutils) complains that it cannot build if there is a >> newer >> openssl version installed by a port. There we are again, byebye >> openssl-beta/openoffice, portupgrade, reinstall both. >> >> >> I'm a bit of a loss, no answer, no help by google, but I can't be the >> only >> one who faces this problem. How are you dealing with this? 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Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Dec 11 17:37:38 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6212016A41F for ; Sun, 11 Dec 2005 17:37:38 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from bt@ccgis.de) Received: from sm7.simplethings.de (a15160313.alturo-server.de [217.160.128.151]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2192C43D70 for ; Sun, 11 Dec 2005 17:37:37 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from bt@ccgis.de) Received: from smm.simplethings.de ([85.88.4.201]) by sm7.simplethings.de with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1ElV8f-0003EQ-B0; Sun, 11 Dec 2005 18:37:36 +0100 Received: from [212.79.172.180] (helo=center.shared) by smM.simplethings.de with esmtpsa (TLS-1.0:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA:32) (Exim 4.50) id 1ElV8f-0003gZ-21; Sun, 11 Dec 2005 18:37:33 +0100 Received: from localhost.localdomain ([127.0.0.1] helo=center.sz) by center.shared with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1ElV9X-0006od-Ck; Sun, 11 Dec 2005 18:38:27 +0100 Received: from 192.168.0.5 (proxying for 81.173.179.185) (SquirrelMail authenticated user thelen); by vogon.ccgis.de with HTTP; Sun, 11 Dec 2005 18:38:27 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <40414.192.168.0.5.1134322707.squirrel@192.168.0.5> In-Reply-To: <20051211120120.GA25491@andvari.ath.cx> References: <39809.192.168.0.5.1134159325.squirrel@192.168.0.5> <20051211120120.GA25491@andvari.ath.cx> Date: Sun, 11 Dec 2005 18:38:27 +0100 (CET) From: "Benjamin Thelen" To: Martin =?iso-8859-1?Q?M=F6ller?= User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.3a X-Mailer: SquirrelMail/1.4.3a MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal X-Spam-Score: 0.1 (/) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: openoffice-2 & openssl-beta-0.9.8a X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 11 Dec 2005 17:37:38 -0000 > * Benjamin Thelen [09-12-2005 21:15:25 +0100]: >> I'm a bit of a loss, no answer, no help by google, but I can't be the >> only >> one who faces this problem. How are you dealing with this? Do I overlook >> something? > > Just force the thing to install and don't give another thought to that > openssl dependency: > > pkg_add -f xxxx.tgz > > "f" like ....... force! ;-) Martin, Usually "force" is something I like avoid ;-). Nevertheless I did it your way :-). But I additionally had to delete the dependency to openssl-beta, because portupgrade complained. I don't know it this was the best idea... Two messages were a little annoying, please see below. I don't know if it's bad to see "dependency registration is incomplete". . . . pkg_add: can't open dependency file '/var/db/pkg/openssl-beta-0.9.8a/+REQUIRED_BY'! dependency registration is incomplete pkg_add: warning: package 'de-openoffice.org-2.0.20051202' requires 'perl-threaded-5.8.7', but 'perl-5.8.7' is installed And I really don't know where this perl-threaded comes from - I even couldn't find a port called like this - I suppose, it's a knob. Best, Ben > > HTH, > Martin > > -- > Martin Möller - ICQ # 82221572 > GnuPG/PGP (DSA) Schlüssel-ID: 06746BEE - FAbdruck > 9D2E 943F A669 50E4 A638 E42F 2699 2A76 0674 6BEE > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Dec 11 17:49:56 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7173816A41F for ; Sun, 11 Dec 2005 17:49:56 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from sasa@stupar.homelinux.net) Received: from avs4.arnes.si (avs4.arnes.si [193.2.1.77]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E23A043D6A for ; Sun, 11 Dec 2005 17:49:55 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from sasa@stupar.homelinux.net) Received: from localhost (avs4.arnes.si [193.2.1.77]) by avs4.arnes.si (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5D7952C3511 for ; Sun, 11 Dec 2005 18:49:54 +0100 (CET) Received: from avs4.arnes.si ([193.2.1.77]) by localhost (avs4.arnes.si [193.2.1.77]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 96787-06 for ; Sun, 11 Dec 2005 18:49:54 +0100 (CET) Received: from xmail.homelinux.net (cmb16-74.dial-up.arnes.si [194.249.51.74]) by avs4.arnes.si (Postfix) with ESMTP id 113472C3510 for ; Sun, 11 Dec 2005 18:49:53 +0100 (CET) Received: from [192.168.10.249] (master.workgroup [192.168.10.249]) (authenticated bits=0) by xmail.homelinux.net (8.13.5/8.13.3) with ESMTP id jBBHnrYo006424 for ; Sun, 11 Dec 2005 18:49:53 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from sasa@stupar.homelinux.net) Date: Sun, 11 Dec 2005 18:50:02 +0100 From: Sasa Stupar To: FreeBSD Q ML Message-ID: X-Mailer: Mulberry/3.1.6 (Win32) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV version 0.87.1, clamav-milter version 0.87 on mig29.workgroup X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at arnes.si Subject: Dansguardian port X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 11 Dec 2005 17:49:56 -0000 Hi! I have installed dansguardian on FBSD 5.4 from the ports but I have found out that this port was not made for antivirus support - (need to patch the source). The port is fresh since I have just done cvsup my ports tree. Am I missing something? -- Sasa Stupar From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Dec 11 18:18:17 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CBE1B16A41F for ; Sun, 11 Dec 2005 18:18:17 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from surferdamon@adelphia.net) Received: from mta9.adelphia.net (mta9.adelphia.net [68.168.78.199]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 61B5C43D45 for ; Sun, 11 Dec 2005 18:18:17 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from surferdamon@adelphia.net) Received: from [192.168.1.103] (really [69.167.39.216]) by mta9.adelphia.net (InterMail vM.6.01.05.02 201-2131-123-102-20050715) with ESMTP id <20051211181816.WNPW11358.mta9.adelphia.net@[192.168.1.103]>; Sun, 11 Dec 2005 13:18:16 -0500 From: Damon Blom Organization: home To: Svein Halvor Halvorsen , questions@freebsd.org, chris@childeric.freeserve.co.uk Date: Sun, 11 Dec 2005 10:17:59 -0800 User-Agent: KMail/1.8.3 References: <200512101156.16145.surferdamon@adelphia.net> In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200512111018.00580.surferdamon@adelphia.net> Cc: Subject: Re: Copying kernel and OS X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 11 Dec 2005 18:18:17 -0000 On Saturday 10 December 2005 12:05 pm, you wrote: > On 12/10/05, Damon Blom wrote: > > Thank's. Is there an easy way to install ports on slow machine using > > nfs after portupgrade on fast machine? For one port I guess you could do > > a nfs mount of faster machine ports after doing make on ithe port and > > just do install on slower machine? > > Check out pkg_create. You could use that to create packacges from > installed ports on the fast maschine, and then installing those > packages on the slower machine(s). > > Using some creative scripting, this could be done pretty transparently. Hi Thank's for reply! pkg_create makes almost instant package which I can then just do pkg_add -r to retrieve on slower machine. Can also make package-recursive (from chris) which puts packages in /usr/ports/packages. Maybe when I do portupgrade -a on fast machine I should do portupgrade -ap instead to also build a package. Thank's for idea. Damon From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Dec 11 18:33:36 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 105E316A41F for ; Sun, 11 Dec 2005 18:33:36 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) Received: from smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk [81.187.76.162]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DFEC343D45 for ; Sun, 11 Dec 2005 18:33:34 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) Received: from [IPv6:::1] (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id jBBIXOlB035713; Sun, 11 Dec 2005 18:33:24 GMT (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) Message-ID: <439C70F4.90201@infracaninophile.co.uk> Date: Sun, 11 Dec 2005 18:33:24 +0000 From: Matthew Seaman Organization: Infracaninophile User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.7 (X11/20051204) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Vasile C References: <439C521E.9080303@mac.com> <200512111826.27242.v.cristescu@gmail.com> <20051211115014.157B.GERARD@seibercom.net> <200512111921.28072.v.cristescu@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <200512111921.28072.v.cristescu@gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-2.0.2 (smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk [IPv6:::1]); Sun, 11 Dec 2005 18:33:24 +0000 (GMT) X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV version 0.87.1, clamav-milter version 0.87 on happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.5 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_00,NO_RELAYS autolearn=ham version=3.1.0 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.0 (2005-09-13) on happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: cvsup question X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 11 Dec 2005 18:33:36 -0000 Vasile C wrote: > Can someone PLEASE answer my question without asking me more questions ? > Is there a way to change the reconnect time or not ? Not without modifying the source code to cvsup. What I recommend you do is add the '-1' flag to your cvsup command line -- so cvsup will try once to pull down the updates and then exit. Then you can use a trivial bit of shell scripting to try again if the first attempt failed, although you should try to cvsup from a different server if you need to retry. eg. #!/bin/sh CVSUP=/usr/local/bin/cvsup CVSUPFLAGS=-1 -g -L2 /usr/share/examples/cvsup/ports-supfile CVSUPSERVERS=' cvsup.xx.freebsd.org cvsup.yy.freebsd.org cvsup.zz.freebsd.org ' OTHERCMDS=portsdb -Uu && portupgrade for $h in $CVSUPSERVERS ; do $CVSUP -h $h $CVSUPFLAGS && \ $OTHERCMDS && \ break done Note: untested code intended only as an outline of what you might do -- will need some work before suitable for serious use. Cheers, Matthew -- Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. 7 Priory Courtyard Flat 3 PGP: http://www.infracaninophile.co.uk/pgpkey Ramsgate Kent, CT11 9PW From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Dec 11 18:52:46 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E9FCF16A41F for ; Sun, 11 Dec 2005 18:52:46 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from europa100@comcast.net) Received: from rwcrmhc11.comcast.net (rwcrmhc11.comcast.net [204.127.198.35]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9919343D53 for ; Sun, 11 Dec 2005 18:52:46 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from europa100@comcast.net) Received: from lm741n.had1.or.comcast.net. (c-24-20-8-31.hsd1.or.comcast.net[24.20.8.31]) by comcast.net (rwcrmhc11) with SMTP id <2005121118524501300c7mnce>; Sun, 11 Dec 2005 18:52:45 +0000 Date: Sun, 11 Dec 2005 10:52:36 -0800 From: Rob Lytle To: freebsd Message-Id: <20051211105236.396e0f7e.europa100@comcast.net> X-Mailer: Sylpheed version 2.0.0 (GTK+ 2.6.9; i386-portbld-freebsd6.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: linux-realplayer complains it can't find fonts X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 11 Dec 2005 18:52:47 -0000 I installed the linux-realplayer but it complains that it can't find fonts. I am assuming that it is some TTF. I installed the webfonts package but that didn't help. I wonder what font it is looking for? Do I have to do anything special in /usr/compat ? Thanks, Rob. -- ------------------ http://home.comcast.net/~europa100 A SETI-like Search for Intelligent Life in Central Pa. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Dec 11 19:55:49 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E484516A41F for ; Sun, 11 Dec 2005 19:55:49 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from lists@webtent.net) Received: from esmtp.webtent.net (esmtp.webtent.net [208.38.145.5]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3A0D443D45 for ; Sun, 11 Dec 2005 19:55:49 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from lists@webtent.net) Received: from localhost (localhost.webtent.net [127.0.0.1]) by esmtp.webtent.net (WebTent ESMTP Postfix Internet Mail Gateway) with ESMTP id 1DD0AEBD0D for ; Sun, 11 Dec 2005 14:55:42 -0500 (EST) Received: from esmtp.webtent.net ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (esmtp.webtent.net [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 18470-06 for ; Sun, 11 Dec 2005 14:55:41 -0500 (EST) Received: from [192.168.1.52] (webtent.org [70.110.70.42]) by esmtp.webtent.net (WebTent ESMTP Postfix Internet Mail Gateway) with ESMTP id 05706EBD3E for ; Sun, 11 Dec 2005 14:55:39 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <439C8442.4070407@webtent.net> Date: Sun, 11 Dec 2005 14:55:46 -0500 From: Robert Fitzpatrick User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.7 (Windows/20050923) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: FreeBSD Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new using ClamAV at webtent.net Subject: Downgrade a port X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: robert@webtent.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 11 Dec 2005 19:55:50 -0000 Well, still haven't solved my problem with reaching kern.openfiles limit since upgrading several packages. I posted that last week and received some ideas. The /var had several problems, so I went to single user mode this weekend and cleaned it up, all other parts clean. So, I am now considering downgrading ports that were upgraded in an attempt to solve the issue. Stopping and starting Postfix will relieve the issue, if done every 10 minutes. I have tried 'make deinstall' and reinstalling Postfix, but this was upgraded from 2.2.x to 2.2.6, very minor. So, maybe the culprit is amavisd-new. Of all the packages that were upgraded at the time the problem started, this one was the most major coming from 2.2.1 to 2.3.3. All ports were upgraded via portupgrade, I can't seem to find how to get 2.2.1 loaded in the ports system, can someone help? Also, if anyone has another idea on my core issue, I have used lsof and most files open on the system are of the smtp and smtpd processes. -- Robert From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Dec 11 20:13:31 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 59E3716A41F for ; Sun, 11 Dec 2005 20:13:31 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from kris@obsecurity.org) Received: from elvis.mu.org (elvis.mu.org [192.203.228.196]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 770B743D62 for ; Sun, 11 Dec 2005 20:13:30 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from kris@obsecurity.org) Received: from obsecurity.dyndns.org (elvis.mu.org [192.203.228.196]) by elvis.mu.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5D1641A3C26; Sun, 11 Dec 2005 12:13:30 -0800 (PST) Received: by obsecurity.dyndns.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 2E18C5158E; Sun, 11 Dec 2005 15:13:29 -0500 (EST) Date: Sun, 11 Dec 2005 15:13:29 -0500 From: Kris Kennaway To: Danial Thom Message-ID: <20051211201328.GA5652@xor.obsecurity.org> References: <20051210212424.GA80660@xor.obsecurity.org> <20051211143349.68091.qmail@web33304.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="tThc/1wpZn/ma/RB" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20051211143349.68091.qmail@web33304.mail.mud.yahoo.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, Kris Kennaway Subject: Re: Freebsd Theme Song X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 11 Dec 2005 20:13:31 -0000 --tThc/1wpZn/ma/RB Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sun, Dec 11, 2005 at 06:33:49AM -0800, Danial Thom wrote: > > > But thats not even the point. The point is that the purpose of > > > tearing apart 4.x was to go MP, and MP=20 > > > performance is dismill across the board. > > This statement is simply false. It's actually > > quite funny to read. > Whats "false" about it, Kris? I've quoted it again for you above. When you take your packet bridging blinders off, there are many performance improvements to be measured from SMP kernels (and UP, for that matter) on FreeBSD 6.0 compared to 4.11. Filesystem performance, for one. FreeBSD 6 is 30% faster than 4.11 at filesystem write operations (extracting a large tarball full of small files and many subdirectories) with an amr disk array on the same UP system. On this hardware FreeBSD 4.11 is unable to make effective use of a second CPU on the same test (it's often slightly slower); FreeBSD 6.0 receives a 10-15% boost on this workload from a second CPU (this seems to be limited by hardware access constraints - the amr hardware API does not encourage concurrency). Performance on a benchmark that does a lot of parallel filesystem reads and forks tens of thousands of processes (ports collection INDEX builds) is 25% faster on 6.0 than 5.4, and is about 3 times faster under SMP than UP on a 4-CPU machine. On a 4-CPU amd64 machine running 6.0, concurrent write performance to a md is 2.7 times faster under SMP than UP. On a 14-CPU sparc64 machine it is 6.1 times faster (and it would be higher except the very low memory bandwidth and 400MHz CPU speed cause some of the kernel threads to saturate easily). But of course, Denial tells us that none of this means anything about FreeBSD performance and scalability, because it doesn't help him with the only thing he cares about, which is to sell systems that bridge high-speed networks. Kris --tThc/1wpZn/ma/RB Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.2 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFDnIhoWry0BWjoQKURAhjtAJ9at9CvAJvObUJ1kXqUNKh3/4x7yACg1LE1 AqEzwfYEISlgtFuQWGUQUPA= =87pa -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --tThc/1wpZn/ma/RB-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Dec 11 20:18:12 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E2D3D16A41F for ; Sun, 11 Dec 2005 20:18:12 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ringworm01@gmail.com) Received: from xproxy.gmail.com (xproxy.gmail.com [66.249.82.199]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 82E2E43D64 for ; Sun, 11 Dec 2005 20:18:11 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ringworm01@gmail.com) Received: by xproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id s8so964167wxc for ; Sun, 11 Dec 2005 12:18:10 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:from:to:subject:date:user-agent:references:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:message-id; b=q7pdtx285g+gBTkIs7R0nvldEJ6F4QXspzQ8sBToeSwQtu9SbO11zpcmn7a2xBcJg0pRSwQXkyPK56veqyj8nECQsEqCenkY4Wpyp0DHxzpb9Vvh+xT6Sao520FuOq9X7A2uMcZD8gqCX8TDUKpkVsuOjbqVX7KQag0n50DOR/Y= Received: by 10.70.46.17 with SMTP id t17mr8219680wxt; Sun, 11 Dec 2005 12:18:10 -0800 (PST) Received: from ringworm.mechee.com ( [71.102.14.129]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id i12sm5133515wxd.2005.12.11.12.18.09; Sun, 11 Dec 2005 12:18:09 -0800 (PST) From: "Michael C. Shultz" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, robert@webtent.com Date: Sun, 11 Dec 2005 12:18:05 -0800 User-Agent: KMail/1.8.3 References: <439C8442.4070407@webtent.net> In-Reply-To: <439C8442.4070407@webtent.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200512111218.06182.ringworm01@gmail.com> Cc: Subject: Re: Downgrade a port X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 11 Dec 2005 20:18:13 -0000 On Sunday 11 December 2005 11:55, Robert Fitzpatrick wrote: > Well, still haven't solved my problem with reaching kern.openfiles limit > since upgrading several packages. I posted that last week and received > some ideas. The /var had several problems, so I went to single user mode > this weekend and cleaned it up, all other parts clean. So, I am now > considering downgrading ports that were upgraded in an attempt to solve > the issue. Stopping and starting Postfix will relieve the issue, if done > every 10 minutes. I have tried 'make deinstall' and reinstalling > Postfix, but this was upgraded from 2.2.x to 2.2.6, very minor. So, > maybe the culprit is amavisd-new. Of all the packages that were upgraded > at the time the problem started, this one was the most major coming from > 2.2.1 to 2.3.3. All ports were upgraded via portupgrade, I can't seem to > find how to get 2.2.1 loaded in the ports system, can someone help? > > Also, if anyone has another idea on my core issue, I have used lsof and > most files open on the system are of the smtp and smtpd processes. > > -- > Robert Here is how you can bring all ports back to a prior day: make install sysutils/portmanager mv /usr/ports /usr/ports.CURRENT mkdir /usr/ports.PREVIOUSDATE ln -sv /usr/ports.PREVIOUSDATE /usr/ports ln -sv /usr/ports.CURRENT/distfiles /usr/ports.PREVIOUSDATE/distfiles below set what ever date you want *default host=cvsup17.FreeBSD.org *default base=/usr/local/etc/cvsup *default prefix=/usr *default release=cvs *default tag=. *default delete *default compress *default date=2005.11.08.12.00.00 ports-all run cvsup on the above file and you will have a back dated ports tree run portmanager -u -l -ip sysutils/portmanager (the -ip portmanager is so you don't set it back to a previous date) portmanager will backdate all installed ports to the date of your previousdate port tree. When you want to move forward just swap the links between ports.PREVIOUSDATE and ports.CURRENT then update with either portmanager or portupgrade if you prefer. -Mike From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Dec 11 20:31:10 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E3CF616A41F for ; Sun, 11 Dec 2005 20:31:10 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from racerx@makeworld.com) Received: from makeworld.com (makeworld.com [216.201.118.142]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 17E1643D5A for ; Sun, 11 Dec 2005 20:31:10 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from racerx@makeworld.com) Received: from localhost (localhost.com [127.0.0.1]) by makeworld.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 12AAE6455; Sun, 11 Dec 2005 14:31:09 -0600 (CST) Received: from makeworld.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (makeworld.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 03166-03; Sun, 11 Dec 2005 14:31:04 -0600 (CST) Received: by makeworld.com (Postfix, from userid 1008) id CA9296434; Sun, 11 Dec 2005 14:31:04 -0600 (CST) Received: from [216.201.118.138] (racerx.makeworld.com [216.201.118.138]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by makeworld.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id EAC936428; Sun, 11 Dec 2005 14:31:02 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <439C8CB9.4010205@makeworld.com> Date: Sun, 11 Dec 2005 14:31:53 -0600 From: Chris User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.7 (X11/20051204) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Kris Kennaway References: <20051210212424.GA80660@xor.obsecurity.org> <20051211143349.68091.qmail@web33304.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <20051211201328.GA5652@xor.obsecurity.org> In-Reply-To: <20051211201328.GA5652@xor.obsecurity.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new-2.3.3 (20050822) at makeworld.com - FreeBSD:The Power To Serve Cc: Danial Thom , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Freebsd Theme Song X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: RacerX@makeworld.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 11 Dec 2005 20:31:11 -0000 Kris Kennaway wrote: > But of course, Denial tells us that none of this means anything about > FreeBSD performance and scalability, because it doesn't help him with > the only thing he cares about, which is to sell systems that bridge > high-speed networks. >=20 > Kris >=20 >=20 Observation: His name - Denial =46rom Dictionary.com: Entries found for denial. de=B7ni=B7al Audio pronunciation of "denial" ( P ) Pronunciation Key = (d-nl) n. 1. A refusal to comply with or satisfy a request. 2. 1. A refusal to grant the truth of a statement or allegation; a contradiction. 2. Law. The opposing by a defendant of an allegation of the plaintiff. 3. 1. A refusal to accept or believe something, such as a doctrine or belief. 2. Psychology. An unconscious defense mechanism characterized by refusal to acknowledge painful realities, thoughts, or feelings. 4. The act of disowning or disavowing; repudiation. 5. Abstinence; self-denial. [From deny.] --=20 Best regards, Chris No news is ... impossible. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Dec 11 20:33:41 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 637FE16A41F for ; Sun, 11 Dec 2005 20:33:41 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from racerx@makeworld.com) Received: from makeworld.com (makeworld.com [216.201.118.142]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4342C43D7F for ; Sun, 11 Dec 2005 20:33:31 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from racerx@makeworld.com) Received: from localhost (localhost.com [127.0.0.1]) by makeworld.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id AF98B6434; Sun, 11 Dec 2005 14:33:30 -0600 (CST) Received: from makeworld.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (makeworld.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 03166-04; Sun, 11 Dec 2005 14:33:27 -0600 (CST) Received: by makeworld.com (Postfix, from userid 1008) id 991A66429; Sun, 11 Dec 2005 14:33:27 -0600 (CST) Received: from [216.201.118.138] (racerx.makeworld.com [216.201.118.138]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by makeworld.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6226462B0; Sun, 11 Dec 2005 14:33:27 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <439C8D49.4040204@makeworld.com> Date: Sun, 11 Dec 2005 14:34:17 -0600 From: Chris User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.7 (X11/20051204) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: RacerX@makeworld.com References: <20051210212424.GA80660@xor.obsecurity.org> <20051211143349.68091.qmail@web33304.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <20051211201328.GA5652@xor.obsecurity.org> <439C8CB9.4010205@makeworld.com> In-Reply-To: <439C8CB9.4010205@makeworld.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new-2.3.3 (20050822) at makeworld.com - FreeBSD:The Power To Serve Cc: Danial Thom , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, Kris Kennaway Subject: Re: Freebsd Theme Song X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: RacerX@makeworld.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 11 Dec 2005 20:33:41 -0000 Chris wrote: > Kris Kennaway wrote: >=20 >>But of course, Denial tells us that none of this means anything about >>FreeBSD performance and scalability, because it doesn't help him with >>the only thing he cares about, which is to sell systems that bridge >>high-speed networks. >> >>Kris >> >> >=20 >=20 >=20 > Observation: His name - Denial >=20 > From Dictionary.com: >=20 > Entries found for denial. > de=B7ni=B7al Audio pronunciation of "denial" ( P ) Pronunciation Key= (d-nl) > n. >=20 > 1. A refusal to comply with or satisfy a request. > 2. > 1. A refusal to grant the truth of a statement or allegation; = a > contradiction. > 2. Law. The opposing by a defendant of an allegation of the > plaintiff. > 3. > 1. A refusal to accept or believe something, such as a doctrin= e > or belief. > 2. Psychology. An unconscious defense mechanism characterized > by refusal to acknowledge painful realities, thoughts, or feelings. > 4. The act of disowning or disavowing; repudiation. > 5. Abstinence; self-denial. > [From deny.] >=20 Ooops - my bad. I took the nam in the message and not the actual Sorry - It's Danial --=20 Best regards, Chris No news is ... impossible. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Dec 11 21:32:51 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7591616A41F for ; Sun, 11 Dec 2005 21:32:51 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from roth@droopy.unibe.ch) Received: from mailhub04.unibe.ch (mailhub04.unibe.ch [130.92.9.71]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B776443D45 for ; Sun, 11 Dec 2005 21:32:50 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from roth@droopy.unibe.ch) Received: from localhost (scanhub03.unibe.ch [130.92.254.67]) by mailhub04.unibe.ch (Postfix) with ESMTP id 54C831799C; Sun, 11 Dec 2005 22:32:49 +0100 (CET) Received: from mailhub04.unibe.ch ([130.92.9.71]) by localhost (scanhub03.unibe.ch [130.92.254.67]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 32357-02-87; Sun, 11 Dec 2005 22:32:47 +0100 (CET) Received: from asterix.unibe.ch (asterix.unibe.ch [130.92.64.4]) by mailhub04.unibe.ch (Postfix) with ESMTP id C8B601798B; Sun, 11 Dec 2005 22:32:47 +0100 (CET) Received: from droopy.unibe.ch (droopy [130.92.64.20]) by asterix.unibe.ch (8.12.10+Sun/8.12.10) with ESMTP id jBBLWmdB014403; Sun, 11 Dec 2005 22:32:48 +0100 (MET) Received: (from roth@localhost) by droopy.unibe.ch (8.12.10+Sun/8.12.9/Submit) id jBBLWhPO019521; Sun, 11 Dec 2005 22:32:43 +0100 (MET) Date: Sun, 11 Dec 2005 22:32:43 +0100 From: Tobias Roth To: "Michael C. Shultz" Message-ID: <20051211213243.GA19495@droopy.unibe.ch> References: <439C8442.4070407@webtent.net> <200512111218.06182.ringworm01@gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <200512111218.06182.ringworm01@gmail.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4i X-message-flag: Warning! Using Outlook is insecure and promotes virus distribution. Please use a different email client. X-Virus-checked: by University of Berne Cc: Robert Fitzpatrick , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Downgrade a port X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 11 Dec 2005 21:32:51 -0000 On Sun, Dec 11, 2005 at 12:18:05PM -0800, Michael C. Shultz wrote: > > Here is how you can bring all ports back to a prior day: Or even simpler, if you want to only downgrade one port at a time: sysutils/portdowngrade cheers, t. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Dec 11 23:04:11 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F1FFF16A41F for ; Sun, 11 Dec 2005 23:04:11 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from user@dhp.com) Received: from shell.dhp.com (shell.dhp.com [199.245.105.1]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AB9E443D5C for ; Sun, 11 Dec 2005 23:04:11 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from user@dhp.com) Received: by shell.dhp.com (Postfix, from userid 896) id D64DA31323; Sun, 11 Dec 2005 18:04:10 -0500 (EST) Date: Sun, 11 Dec 2005 18:04:10 -0500 (EST) From: user To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Subject: _still_ looking for FreeBSD dvd ripping software... X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 11 Dec 2005 23:04:12 -0000 In the windows world I used dvd decrypter. It output .iso files directly, and it supported removing macrovision (and most importantly) removing prohibited user actions ( PUA / PUO ). I cannot find anything like this for FreeBSD. I asked previously, and was shown sysutls/dvdbackup. This program is extremely limited, has no macrovision or PUA functionality, _and_ does not output ISO files. I know I can take its output and re-form it back to an ISO, but I bet it is not the same as a direct ISO. And a perfect copy is important to me. So, does anyone know of any _decent_ way to rip a dvd _directly_ to an ISO on FreeBSD, and that also supports advanced features like I mention above? (a linux program that could be run under binary compatibility would be fine with me ...) From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Dec 12 00:09:47 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2121216A41F for ; Mon, 12 Dec 2005 00:09:47 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from mac@orthanc.st.hmc.edu) Received: from orthanc.st.hmc.edu (orthanc.ST.HMC.Edu [134.173.56.118]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AB2C943D7C for ; Mon, 12 Dec 2005 00:09:37 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from mac@orthanc.st.hmc.edu) Received: from orthanc.st.hmc.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by orthanc.st.hmc.edu (8.13.3/8.13.3) with ESMTP id jBC0A2Ri001010 for ; Sun, 11 Dec 2005 16:10:02 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mac@orthanc.st.hmc.edu) Received: (from mac@localhost) by orthanc.st.hmc.edu (8.13.3/8.13.3/Submit) id jBC0A2PC001009 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sun, 11 Dec 2005 16:10:02 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mac) Date: Sun, 11 Dec 2005 16:10:02 -0800 From: Mac Mason To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20051212001001.GB772@orthanc.st.hmc.edu> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="H1spWtNR+x+ondvy" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.11 Subject: Re: _still_ looking for FreeBSD dvd ripping software... X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 12 Dec 2005 00:09:47 -0000 --H1spWtNR+x+ondvy Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline On Sun, Dec 11, 2005 at 06:04:10PM -0500, user wrote: > So, does anyone know of any _decent_ way to rip a dvd _directly_ to an ISO > on FreeBSD, and that also supports advanced features like I mention above? multimedia/dvdrip has worked well for me in the past. I've never ripped straight to .iso, but I think dvdrip can handle it. --Mac --H1spWtNR+x+ondvy Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.2 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFDnL/Z1AphoTGXiN0RAjh/AKCDiZw0SSp7siH9j9T1sOMXKUJkFQCdE2eG EJxAqKaly8atEkEnYJfluJg= =g+qk -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --H1spWtNR+x+ondvy-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Dec 12 00:43:26 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3917816A41F for ; Mon, 12 Dec 2005 00:43:26 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from justin.apperley@hds.com) Received: from usscmail7.hds.com (usscmail7.hds.com [63.74.235.18]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8F86643D5F for ; Mon, 12 Dec 2005 00:43:25 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from justin.apperley@hds.com) Received: from mail.hds.com (usscmail9 [10.1.6.230]) by usscmail7.hds.com (8.11.7p1+Sun/8.11.5) with ESMTP id jBC0hPG01337 for ; Sun, 11 Dec 2005 16:43:25 -0800 (PST) Received: from ausydem101.corp.hds.com (USSCCNETSLB08-VLAN4.hds.com [10.1.6.68]) by mail.hds.com (8.11.5-p0-rfc19719/8.11.5) with ESMTP id jBC0hhb14986 for ; Sun, 11 Dec 2005 16:43:43 -0800 (PST) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5.7226.0 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/related; type="multipart/alternative"; boundary="----_=_NextPart_001_01C5FEB5.0E3042F3" Date: Mon, 12 Dec 2005 11:43:22 +1100 Message-ID: <4C1484E67C4DD6438C63595F6B138EAB4FD62E@ausydem101.corp.hds.com> X-MS-Has-Attach: yes X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: HBA support Thread-Index: AcX+tQ2a0Mia6hhTTxC9BBZV3PwCDw== From: "Justin Apperley" To: X-Mailman-Approved-At: Mon, 12 Dec 2005 01:03:45 +0000 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: Subject: HBA support X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 12 Dec 2005 00:43:26 -0000 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C5FEB5.0E3042F3 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi FreeBSD, =20 Can you please advise which HBA's will work within the FreeBSD OS. =20 We are primarily interested in Emulex and QLogic cards. If you could supply which models are supported that would be most appreciated. =20 Cheers =20 Justin =20 Justin Apperley Systems Engineer HITACHI DATA SYSTEMS Level 4, 441 St Kilda Rd Melbourne Victoria 3004 Australia P +613 9281 9179 M +614 1998 6407 F +613 9281 9191 justin.apperley@hds.com =20 =20 ------_=_NextPart_001_01C5FEB5.0E3042F3-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Dec 12 01:43:13 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 637BC16A41F for ; Mon, 12 Dec 2005 01:43:13 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from condor447@hotmail.com) Received: from hotmail.com (bay106-f32.bay106.hotmail.com [65.54.161.42]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F1B5943D5A for ; Mon, 12 Dec 2005 01:43:12 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from condor447@hotmail.com) Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Sun, 11 Dec 2005 17:43:12 -0800 Message-ID: Received: from 65.54.161.200 by by106fd.bay106.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Mon, 12 Dec 2005 01:43:12 GMT X-Originating-IP: [24.70.95.204] X-Originating-Email: [condor447@hotmail.com] X-Sender: condor447@hotmail.com From: "c m" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Sun, 11 Dec 2005 18:43:12 -0700 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed X-OriginalArrivalTime: 12 Dec 2005 01:43:12.0482 (UTC) FILETIME=[69A80420:01C5FEBD] Subject: NVRM errors from nvidia.ko X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 12 Dec 2005 01:43:13 -0000 I get this message with FreeBSD 6.0 and nvidia ports driver NVRM: AGP cannot be enabled with this combination of AMD cpu and OS kernel, upgrade reccomended. Athlon 64 754 3000+ newcastle. I get pci transfer rates and i need agp with FreeBSD's gart or nvidias gart doesnt matter. -Cole _________________________________________________________________ Designer Mail isn't just fun to send, it's fun to receive. Use special stationery, fonts and colors. http://join.msn.com/?pgmarket=en-ca&page=byoa/prem&xAPID=1994&DI=1034&SU=http://hotmail.com/enca&HL=Market_MSNIS_Taglines Start enjoying all the benefits of MSN® Premium right now and get the first two months FREE*. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Dec 12 02:10:22 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A4DF516A41F for ; Mon, 12 Dec 2005 02:10:22 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from list-freebsd-2004@morbius.sent.com) Received: from out2.smtp.messagingengine.com (out2.smtp.messagingengine.com [66.111.4.26]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3371D43D46 for ; Mon, 12 Dec 2005 02:10:21 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from list-freebsd-2004@morbius.sent.com) Received: from frontend1.internal (mysql-sessions.internal [10.202.2.149]) by frontend1.messagingengine.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3729FD1E801 for ; Sun, 11 Dec 2005 21:10:20 -0500 (EST) Received: from frontend2.messagingengine.com ([10.202.2.151]) by frontend1.internal (MEProxy); Sun, 11 Dec 2005 21:10:20 -0500 X-Sasl-enc: hpSCZmwdrp4ROrJg3eK0AVuqb5gRe/tOII+LaqarXGjc 1134353417 Received: from gumby.localdomain (88-104-202-251.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com [88.104.202.251]) by frontend2.messagingengine.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 75DA65713C0 for ; Sun, 11 Dec 2005 21:10:17 -0500 (EST) From: RW To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Mon, 12 Dec 2005 02:10:16 +0000 User-Agent: KMail/1.8.3 References: <200512110916.28583.no-spam@swiftdsl.com.au> In-Reply-To: <200512110916.28583.no-spam@swiftdsl.com.au> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-6" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200512120210.17457.list-freebsd-2004@morbius.sent.com> Subject: Re: Removing a port without upsetting dependencies X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 12 Dec 2005 02:10:22 -0000 On Saturday 10 December 2005 22:46, Ian Moore wrote: > Hi, > I have mplayer installed and at one stage I installed the mplayer-skins > port as well. Then I got sick of dealing with the skins port being broken a > lot because the source files are often unfetchable, so I removed the port > (I can't remember what method I used to do that now). A much better solution is to: cd /usr/ports/multimedia/mplayer-skins && make config then deselect everything, but the default skin. Since I did that I haven't had any problem with unfetchable skins. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Dec 12 02:48:38 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8981916A41F for ; Mon, 12 Dec 2005 02:48:37 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from leblanc@keyslapper.net) Received: from english-breakfast.cloud9.net (english-breakfast.cloud9.net [168.100.1.9]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B247443D60 for ; Mon, 12 Dec 2005 02:48:36 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from leblanc@keyslapper.net) Received: from english-breakfast.cloud9.net (localhost.cloud9.net [127.0.0.1]) by english-breakfast.cloud9.net (Postfix) with SMTP id 8F44A19F72 for ; Sun, 11 Dec 2005 21:48:35 -0500 (EST) Received: from keyslapper.net (250-119.customer.cloud9.net [168.100.250.119]) by english-breakfast.cloud9.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B9D4619F75 for ; Sun, 11 Dec 2005 21:48:34 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by keyslapper.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 97DAB11B49 for ; Sun, 11 Dec 2005 21:44:27 -0500 (EST) Received: from keyslapper.net ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (keyslapper.net [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 00552-07 for ; Sun, 11 Dec 2005 21:44:27 -0500 (EST) Received: by keyslapper.net (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 63C4C1187C; Sun, 11 Dec 2005 21:44:27 -0500 (EST) Date: Sun, 11 Dec 2005 21:44:27 -0500 From: Louis LeBlanc To: FreeBSD Questions Message-ID: <20051212024427.GA27477@keyslapper.net> Mail-Followup-To: FreeBSD Questions Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="PNTmBPCT7hxwcZjr" Content-Disposition: inline X-PGP-Key: http://www.keyslapper.net/~leblanc/leblanc-at-keyslapper-net.asc User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.11 X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at keyslapper.net X-AntiVirus: Checked by Vexira Antivirus v1.5 Cc: Subject: courier-authlib-0.58 dumps core at login X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 12 Dec 2005 02:48:38 -0000 --PNTmBPCT7hxwcZjr Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hey folks. Is it me, or is the courier-authlib port the absolute worst thing to upgrade? It seems like *every* single time I try to upgrade this port, I wind up with nobody being able to log into my courier installation. Usually, it's a simple matter of a simple manual restart of the daemon (it shuts down fine at deinstallation, but won't start back up when portupgrade is used), sometimes it's a minor config tweak. The thing is I keep forgetting this little issue for some stupid reason, and this time, I've got the darn thing dumping core every time someone tries to log in. The ports/security/courier-authlib-base/ port installs without any problems, but it only builds and installs the libauthpam.so module. This is fine, I guess, since I've removed all the other modules from the authmodulelist config - that's the only one it ever used before anyway. So, now I've gone through the whole fiasco of re-installing my entire courier-* setup, verifying ALL the configs for authdaemonrc, imapd, and imapd-ssl. Still, authdaemond dumps core anytime someone tries to log in. Anyone else see anything wierd with courier-authlib-base-0.58? I have googled for it, and all I get are links to the various copies of the ports/UPDATING file. Of course, it contains all the keywords I can come up with, but none are relevant to the recent issue - and the current UPDATING file has nothing about the latest courier-authlib update. BTW, I'm the only one on the system that can get mail, because I'm using mutt. My Thunderbird and Squirrelmail users cannot log into either imap service (imapd with squirrelmail, imapd-ssl remotely). So, this is a little annoying, and probably a bit urgent. I have the entire port configuration output if it's of any help. It looks like the config process cycles through 12 times. Any help would be appreciated. Lou --=20 Louis LeBlanc FreeBSD-at-keyslapper-DOT-net Fully Funded Hobbyist, KeySlapper Extrordinaire :) Please send off-list email to: leblanc at keyslapper d.t net Key fingerprint =3D C5E7 4762 F071 CE3B ED51 4FB8 AF85 A2FE 80C8 D9A2 First law of debate: Never argue with a fool. People might not know the difference. --PNTmBPCT7hxwcZjr Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.2 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFDnOQLr4Wi/oDI2aIRAhkhAJ44wDLpLc7eoalNUIi7/D/PnDDrMwCeKu9p TaxD+bVSblvLBIz4PuQgdw0= =G8Ff -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --PNTmBPCT7hxwcZjr-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Dec 12 03:03:06 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C84D416A41F for ; Mon, 12 Dec 2005 03:03:06 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from yance_kowara@yahoo.com) Received: from web30304.mail.mud.yahoo.com (web30304.mail.mud.yahoo.com [68.142.200.97]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 4BB6843D5F for ; Mon, 12 Dec 2005 03:03:06 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from yance_kowara@yahoo.com) Received: (qmail 76426 invoked by uid 60001); 12 Dec 2005 03:03:05 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=bvIu/QwaCwuZyHcGVM8yGXCflunO2MUQGjZd6MjkR4iQX047yScg69P18TF2iEAdKomrVvXMCxaFwXZlc8IvPj8gLpazfMerLE/IZKsBryitN/rejeBo9jx2piLDV+1aqojNBJhJZa96vrFrpUBGPGs6uicZse/jKT4hDmi5fJ4= ; Message-ID: <20051212030305.76424.qmail@web30304.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Received: from [61.88.127.146] by web30304.mail.mud.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sun, 11 Dec 2005 19:03:05 PST Date: Sun, 11 Dec 2005 19:03:05 -0800 (PST) From: Yance Kowara To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Subject: FreeBSD router two DSL connections X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 12 Dec 2005 03:03:06 -0000 Hi all, I am trying to figure out if *BSD can achieve this: I have two DSL connections to play with, and I would like to configure a *BSD router that can combine the two DSLs together. There is a howto at http://stevenfettig.com/mythoughts/archives/000173.php But it concerns OpenBSD and it was for a T1 connection using a dual T1 card. I would like to configure one on 2 DSLs connected to two individual NICs. Is this feasible at all, or should I just invest in a dual Wan hardware? Kind regards, Yance __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Dec 12 03:16:50 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D0A3716A41F for ; Mon, 12 Dec 2005 03:16:50 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from mrl0lz@gmail.com) Received: from xproxy.gmail.com (xproxy.gmail.com [66.249.82.201]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 28E7943D58 for ; Mon, 12 Dec 2005 03:16:50 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from mrl0lz@gmail.com) Received: by xproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id t14so965663wxc for ; Sun, 11 Dec 2005 19:16:48 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:subject:to:cc:in-reply-to:references:content-type:date:message-id:mime-version:x-mailer:content-transfer-encoding:from; b=Woy5aEc/AbTl9Tx2aLwwt2CfTHktvvo8r4Mepo/fLU+h73jfl/bLz2Kf1Wa1lhmjkrKcM0iNj0/iMuQ4RBcN7GUZGIaqLJjPGQFPtiSC0wTyLMdOXjFIWXdlm8A3VEksKldVW8NninT7RRInaoP25/ZvJ4ag2y+trSp0/4BiojU= Received: by 10.70.18.5 with SMTP id 5mr6256279wxr; Sun, 11 Dec 2005 19:16:46 -0800 (PST) Received: from vaio ( [71.80.228.80]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id h11sm9460688wxd.2005.12.11.19.16.44; Sun, 11 Dec 2005 19:16:46 -0800 (PST) To: user In-Reply-To: References: Content-Type: text/plain Date: Sun, 11 Dec 2005 19:16:56 -0800 Message-Id: <1134357417.28393.4.camel@vaio> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.4.2.1 FreeBSD GNOME Team Port Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Remington Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: _still_ looking for FreeBSD dvd ripping software... X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 12 Dec 2005 03:16:50 -0000 On Sun, 2005-12-11 at 18:04 -0500, user wrote: > In the windows world I used dvd decrypter. It output .iso files directly, > and it supported removing macrovision (and most importantly) removing > prohibited user actions ( PUA / PUO ). > > I cannot find anything like this for FreeBSD. I asked previously, and was > shown sysutls/dvdbackup. This program is extremely limited, has no > macrovision or PUA functionality, _and_ does not output ISO files. I know > I can take its output and re-form it back to an ISO, but I bet it is not > the same as a direct ISO. And a perfect copy is important to me. > > So, does anyone know of any _decent_ way to rip a dvd _directly_ to an ISO > on FreeBSD, and that also supports advanced features like I mention above? > > (a linux program that could be run under binary compatibility would be > fine with me ...) > > > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" lxdvdrip works well. And ShrinkTo5 should be ported over to linux soon. once that happens we should have a very good program to use. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Dec 12 03:21:42 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C207116A420 for ; Mon, 12 Dec 2005 03:21:42 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from leblanc@keyslapper.net) Received: from camomile.cloud9.net (camomile.cloud9.net [168.100.1.3]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7618F43D75 for ; Mon, 12 Dec 2005 03:21:25 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from leblanc@keyslapper.net) Received: from camomile.cloud9.net (localhost.cloud9.net [127.0.0.1]) by camomile.cloud9.net (Postfix) with SMTP id 4F7CA5543 for ; Sun, 11 Dec 2005 22:21:24 -0500 (EST) Received: from keyslapper.net (250-119.customer.cloud9.net [168.100.250.119]) by camomile.cloud9.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id AE9AE5559 for ; Sun, 11 Dec 2005 22:21:23 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by keyslapper.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 88E2011A6D for ; Sun, 11 Dec 2005 22:17:16 -0500 (EST) Received: from keyslapper.net ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (keyslapper.net [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 00551-10 for ; Sun, 11 Dec 2005 22:17:16 -0500 (EST) Received: by keyslapper.net (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 41BCE1187C; Sun, 11 Dec 2005 22:17:16 -0500 (EST) Date: Sun, 11 Dec 2005 22:17:16 -0500 From: Louis LeBlanc To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20051212031716.GA87116@keyslapper.net> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <20051212024427.GA27477@keyslapper.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="X1bOJ3K7DJ5YkBrT" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20051212024427.GA27477@keyslapper.net> X-PGP-Key: http://www.keyslapper.net/~leblanc/leblanc-at-keyslapper-net.asc User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.11 X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at keyslapper.net X-AntiVirus: Checked by Vexira Antivirus v1.5 Subject: Re: courier-authlib-0.58 dumps core at login X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 12 Dec 2005 03:21:42 -0000 --X1bOJ3K7DJ5YkBrT Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 12/11/05 09:44 PM, Louis LeBlanc sat at the `puter and typed: > Hey folks. >=20 > Is it me, or is the courier-authlib port the absolute worst thing to > upgrade? It seems like *every* single time I try to upgrade this > port, I wind up with nobody being able to log into my courier > installation. Usually, it's a simple matter of a simple manual > restart of the daemon (it shuts down fine at deinstallation, but won't > start back up when portupgrade is used), sometimes it's a minor config > tweak. >=20 > The thing is I keep forgetting this little issue for some stupid > reason, and this time, I've got the darn thing dumping core every time > someone tries to log in. >=20 > The ports/security/courier-authlib-base/ port installs without any > problems, but it only builds and installs the libauthpam.so module. > This is fine, I guess, since I've removed all the other modules from > the authmodulelist config - that's the only one it ever used before > anyway. >=20 > So, now I've gone through the whole fiasco of re-installing my entire > courier-* setup, verifying ALL the configs for authdaemonrc, imapd, > and imapd-ssl. Still, authdaemond dumps core anytime someone tries to > log in. >=20 > Anyone else see anything wierd with courier-authlib-base-0.58? >=20 > I have googled for it, and all I get are links to the various copies > of the ports/UPDATING file. Of course, it contains all the keywords I > can come up with, but none are relevant to the recent issue - and the > current UPDATING file has nothing about the latest courier-authlib > update. >=20 > BTW, I'm the only one on the system that can get mail, because I'm > using mutt. My Thunderbird and Squirrelmail users cannot log into > either imap service (imapd with squirrelmail, imapd-ssl remotely). > So, this is a little annoying, and probably a bit urgent. >=20 > I have the entire port configuration output if it's of any help. It > looks like the config process cycles through 12 times. Quick followup: I ran a couple tests with this as follows: Using authtest, I was able to see what the encrypted password was on my user account. I then set DEBUG=3D2 in the authdaemonrc file, and restarted the authdaemon. This routs encrypted passwords to the debug file when a login is attempted. These passwords do match, but the debug log shows a rejection. Here's the output to the debug log: Dec 11 22:08:07 keyslapper imapd: Connection, ip=3D[::1] Dec 11 22:08:07 keyslapper authdaemond: received auth request, service=3Dim= ap, authtype=3Dlogin Dec 11 22:08:07 keyslapper authdaemond: authpam: trying this module Dec 11 22:08:07 keyslapper authdaemond: authpam: sysusername=3Dleblanc, sys= userid=3D, sysgroupid=3D1001, homedir=3D/home/leblanc, address=3Dlebl= anc, fullname=3DLouis LeBlanc, maildir=3D, quota=3D, options=3D= Dec 11 22:08:07 keyslapper authdaemond: authpam: clearpasswd=3D, pass= wd=3D$1$zXwYvUtS$W1234567890ABCdefGHIj/ Dec 11 22:08:07 keyslapper authdaemond: pam_service=3Dimap, pam_username=3Dleblanc Dec 11 22:08:07 keyslapper authdaemond: authpam: REJECT - try next module Dec 11 22:08:07 keyslapper authdaemond: FAIL, all modules rejected and the authtest output: # authtest leblanc Authentication succeeded. Authenticated: leblanc (system username: leblanc) Home Directory: /home/leblanc Maildir: (none) Quota: (none) Encrypted Password: $1$zXwYvUtS$W1234567890ABCdefGHIj/ Cleartext Password: (none) Options: wbnodsn=3D1 Naturally, I changed the encrypted password here, but rest assured I did check them character by character. BTW, authdaemond did dump core again. Thanks again. Lou --=20 Louis LeBlanc FreeBSD-at-keyslapper-DOT-net Fully Funded Hobbyist, KeySlapper Extrordinaire :) Please send off-list email to: leblanc at keyslapper d.t net Key fingerprint =3D C5E7 4762 F071 CE3B ED51 4FB8 AF85 A2FE 80C8 D9A2 God doesn't play dice. -- Albert Einstein --X1bOJ3K7DJ5YkBrT Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.2 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFDnOu8r4Wi/oDI2aIRAlHJAKCNMAzsyLVczDtYKQ4DO9ObhgM+PwCggBsV 7SUx+nBDtzraJ78BPl+0IYg= =6Brf -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --X1bOJ3K7DJ5YkBrT-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Dec 12 03:54:36 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E099816A41F for ; Mon, 12 Dec 2005 03:54:36 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from kstewart@owt.com) Received: from smtp.owt.com (smtp.owt.com [204.118.6.19]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 78ACD43D62 for ; Mon, 12 Dec 2005 03:54:36 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from kstewart@owt.com) Received: from topaz-out (owt-207-41-94-233.owt.com [207.41.94.233]) by smtp.owt.com (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id jBC3sKx4009906 for ; Sun, 11 Dec 2005 19:54:20 -0800 From: Kent Stewart To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Sun, 11 Dec 2005 19:54:34 -0800 User-Agent: KMail/1.8.3 References: <200512110916.28583.no-spam@swiftdsl.com.au> <200512120210.17457.list-freebsd-2004@morbius.sent.com> In-Reply-To: <200512120210.17457.list-freebsd-2004@morbius.sent.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-6" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200512111954.34923.kstewart@owt.com> Subject: Re: Removing a port without upsetting dependencies X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 12 Dec 2005 03:54:37 -0000 On Sunday 11 December 2005 06:10 pm, RW wrote: > On Saturday 10 December 2005 22:46, Ian Moore wrote: > > Hi, > > I have mplayer installed and at one stage I installed the > > mplayer-skins port as well. Then I got sick of dealing with the > > skins port being broken a lot because the source files are often > > unfetchable, so I removed the port (I can't remember what method I > > used to do that now). > > A much better solution is to: > > cd /usr/ports/multimedia/mplayer-skins && make config > > then deselect everything, but the default skin. > > Since I did that I haven't had any problem with unfetchable skins. > If you go into distfiles/mplayer and rm all of the files that are out of date, you won't have any problem either. IIRC, the names haven't changed but the MD5 and sizes have and it won't refetch them until you remove them. The skins aren't broken. There is something slightly out of whack with the Makefile. There may be an easier way but cd and rm * works just fine. Kent -- Kent Stewart Richland, WA http://users.owt.com/kstewart/index.html From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Dec 12 04:02:46 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8F2F516A41F for ; Mon, 12 Dec 2005 04:02:46 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from lloyd.peterson@gmail.com) Received: from xproxy.gmail.com (xproxy.gmail.com [66.249.82.195]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D88F043D68 for ; Mon, 12 Dec 2005 04:02:45 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from lloyd.peterson@gmail.com) Received: by xproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id t13so912588wxc for ; Sun, 11 Dec 2005 20:02:45 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=i29mRmiGw4/Dce8MOzx+Z0SiC4YOeIFTcDo+L6BnuiXgjznQ3Xiyr6tJcH+XXrojqa3RVyG9e3zNUA7AV8pxh273Drg/SvzEJFgnphSVByn/Mpkx5Ov+oOMDd1ESDAnqfBpn27Wq/uifIfJQlw7GNP3PFucpZ1Q1prErnaBbOcU= Received: by 10.70.65.17 with SMTP id n17mr8880694wxa; Sun, 11 Dec 2005 20:02:44 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.70.62.15 with HTTP; Sun, 11 Dec 2005 20:02:44 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <95550eab0512112002hf0ca96fv3468d4484c8fd669@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sun, 11 Dec 2005 23:02:44 -0500 From: Aaron Peterson To: FreeBSD Questions In-Reply-To: <1134357417.28393.4.camel@vaio> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline References: <1134357417.28393.4.camel@vaio> Subject: Re: _still_ looking for FreeBSD dvd ripping software... X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 12 Dec 2005 04:02:46 -0000 > > In the windows world I used dvd decrypter. It output .iso files direct= ly, > > and it supported removing macrovision (and most importantly) removing > > prohibited user actions ( PUA / PUO ). > > > > I cannot find anything like this for FreeBSD. I asked previously, and = was > > shown sysutls/dvdbackup. This program is extremely limited, has no > > macrovision or PUA functionality, _and_ does not output ISO files. I k= now > > I can take its output and re-form it back to an ISO, but I bet it is no= t > > the same as a direct ISO. And a perfect copy is important to me. > > > > So, does anyone know of any _decent_ way to rip a dvd _directly_ to an = ISO > > on FreeBSD, and that also supports advanced features like I mention abo= ve? > > > > (a linux program that could be run under binary compatibility would be > > fine with me ...) > > lxdvdrip works well. And ShrinkTo5 should be ported over to linux soon. > once that happens we should have a very good program to use. Ripping a dvd to an image that can be burned to a writable dvd is not a cut and dried procedure for a number of reasons. I have used a number of tools on bsd to get the job done in various circumstances.=20 The tools I've used include vobcopy, mplayer/mencoder, transcode (for tcrequant), mjpeg-tools (for mplex), dvdauthor, and growisofs. I have also used dvdrip with some success. Hope this information moves you in the right direction. Aaron From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Dec 12 04:07:45 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3844A16A41F for ; Mon, 12 Dec 2005 04:07:45 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from mattgann2003@yahoo.com) Received: from web54201.mail.yahoo.com (web54201.mail.yahoo.com [206.190.39.243]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id A375543D5F for ; Mon, 12 Dec 2005 04:07:44 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from mattgann2003@yahoo.com) Received: (qmail 66040 invoked by uid 60001); 12 Dec 2005 04:07:44 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=EQcytdUzg0b/G04OzigvYhTcMQ44k4nVgZUiz0fsnrlmgi92lvBmiUUFPrM0U1AmHTjfw+b/S2H6vUQa2jDOkKxlFtfUDmNPxFrsABiHFmKzXEZ6bPti2MgjW28y8YygbyoO3tV/VSzPfZUWVLh+vDlseOeGIxNNwu/ZArr4G/M= ; Message-ID: <20051212040744.66038.qmail@web54201.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [71.34.199.210] by web54201.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sun, 11 Dec 2005 20:07:44 PST Date: Sun, 11 Dec 2005 20:07:44 -0800 (PST) From: "Matt S. Gann" To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: Subject: FreeBSD starter machine X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 12 Dec 2005 04:07:45 -0000 I have a few questions about FreeBSD. I am just beginning to get into UNIX. I know a few line commands, but really want to get familiar and comfortable with the OS. I have been intrugued by FreeBSD for many years now, but I own a windows-based PC and am not keen about running dual OS's. I would like to get a cheap, used, small desktop or laptop to "tinker" with Unix/Linix and FreeBSD. However, I know little to nothing about system requirements and/or hardware compability. I was thinking of an old 486 or Pentium 1 to get started. Any thoughts on what I could start with? Sincerely, Matt S. Gann --------------------------------- Yahoo! Shopping Find Great Deals on Holiday Gifts at Yahoo! Shopping From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Dec 12 04:51:44 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CC38816A41F for ; Mon, 12 Dec 2005 04:51:44 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from stgull@yahoo.com) Received: from web30713.mail.mud.yahoo.com (web30713.mail.mud.yahoo.com [68.142.201.251]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 4242443D53 for ; Mon, 12 Dec 2005 04:51:44 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from stgull@yahoo.com) Received: (qmail 71535 invoked by uid 60001); 12 Dec 2005 04:51:43 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=Orx14DWa8AAmtWcH46eGgYxfdAlNFhejpUP7W7GYci/HexNu1FSvrTULUAobW11tNbo8rYTKK3V1PO1LO6F1UnLmpjbvS0SKSz4/A4QgoYMohUoOzmrqXnxEcsjvDOCe4aFLsE4BtcaIlwlIfrMZ5L1akodoG8WwVU8I7DcMppQ= ; Message-ID: <20051212045143.71533.qmail@web30713.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Received: from [202.5.202.4] by web30713.mail.mud.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sun, 11 Dec 2005 20:51:43 PST Date: Sun, 11 Dec 2005 20:51:43 -0800 (PST) From: Tsakhlai Baatar To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: IBM xSeries 226 ips problem X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 12 Dec 2005 04:51:44 -0000 i got a problem during boot of FreeBSD 6.0 Release on my new IBM @Server xSeries 226. there is something like "resetting ips driver it will take a 5 minute" message occurs and system not continue to other process. What is wrong with that. How do I install FreeBSD in this situation? --------------------------------- Yahoo! Shopping Find Great Deals on Holiday Gifts at Yahoo! Shopping From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Dec 12 05:01:32 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A882716A41F for ; Mon, 12 Dec 2005 05:01:32 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from chris@monochrome.org) Received: from mail.monochrome.org (b4.ebbed1.client.atlantech.net [209.190.235.180]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0635643D46 for ; Mon, 12 Dec 2005 05:01:31 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from chris@monochrome.org) Received: from tripel (tripel [192.168.1.11]) by mail.monochrome.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id AAA61235; Mon, 12 Dec 2005 00:01:21 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from chris@monochrome.org) Date: Mon, 12 Dec 2005 00:01:54 -0500 (EST) From: Chris Hill To: "Matt S. Gann" In-Reply-To: <20051212040744.66038.qmail@web54201.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <20051211232229.E9320@tripel.monochrome.org> References: <20051212040744.66038.qmail@web54201.mail.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD starter machine X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 12 Dec 2005 05:01:32 -0000 On Sun, 11 Dec 2005, Matt S. Gann wrote: > I have a few questions about FreeBSD. I am just beginning to get > into UNIX. I know a few line commands, but really want to get > familiar and comfortable with the OS. I have been intrugued by > FreeBSD for many years now, but I own a windows-based PC and am not > keen about running dual OS's. I would like to get a cheap, used, > small desktop or laptop to "tinker" with Unix/Linix and FreeBSD. > However, I know little to nothing about system requirements and/or > hardware compability. I was thinking of an old 486 or Pentium 1 to > get started. Any thoughts on what I could start with? Please press Return (or Enter) every once in a while. Your message was one long line. As for the question, I think you'd want a relatively "modern" machine to start with; in your example, I'd go with the Pentium over the 486. But either one might give you grief. I've had problems installing "late model" FreeBSD on truly ancient hardware, so I'd suggest you go with something that's not too long in the tooth. The website recommendations regarding CPU, RAM and disk space are really bare minima; in reality, you can't have too much of any of these, just as with any OS. Here's a comparison of extremes: I built my newest machine earlier this year with a 3.4GHz P4, 1GB of RAM and 160GB disk. My oldest machine dates from the late 1990s and has a 266MHz AMD K6-2, 32 MB of RAM, and 4GB of disk. The old machine works fine, but building anything is excruciatingly slow. I think you're right about not being "keen about running dual OS's" - I prefer to keep one OS per machine. Lots of people dual-boot with no problem, but it just doesn't feel right to me. Maybe it's a personal preference issue. Here's a thought: Since it's the holiday season, many retailers are offering deals on new computers. If your current Win* box is a few years old, how about upgrading to a new machine? Once your stuff is tranferred over, install FreeBSD on the old machine. At least you'll get known-good hardware (assuming everything worked before), and it will be somewhat modern since your current box is probably not more than three to five years old. Also, since the box is not brand-new, there's a good chance that the hardware is fully supported under FreeBSD - it sometimes takes a little time before the newest hardware is useable under FreeBSD, depending on what it is. Good luck, and welcome to sanity :^) -- Chris Hill chris@monochrome.org ** [ Busy Expunging <|> ] From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Dec 12 05:06:36 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DB9C816A420 for ; Mon, 12 Dec 2005 05:06:36 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from dan@dan.emsphone.com) Received: from dan.emsphone.com (dan.emsphone.com [199.67.51.101]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 60C8543D5D for ; Mon, 12 Dec 2005 05:06:36 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from dan@dan.emsphone.com) Received: (from dan@localhost) by dan.emsphone.com (8.13.1/8.13.3) id jBC56ZpV085076; Sun, 11 Dec 2005 23:06:35 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from dan) Date: Sun, 11 Dec 2005 23:06:35 -0600 From: Dan Nelson To: Justin Apperley Message-ID: <20051212050635.GA67826@dan.emsphone.com> References: <4C1484E67C4DD6438C63595F6B138EAB4FD62E@ausydem101.corp.hds.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <4C1484E67C4DD6438C63595F6B138EAB4FD62E@ausydem101.corp.hds.com> X-OS: FreeBSD 5.4-STABLE X-message-flag: Outlook Error User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.11 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: HBA support X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 12 Dec 2005 05:06:37 -0000 In the last episode (Dec 12), Justin Apperley said: > Can you please advise which HBA's will work within the FreeBSD OS. > > We are primarily interested in Emulex and QLogic cards. If you could > supply which models are supported that would be most appreciated. There is no emulex support for FreeBSD; Qlogic 2[123]xx cards are supported by the isp driver. There is also support for LSI-Logic fibre-channel cards with the mpt driver. -- Dan Nelson dnelson@allantgroup.com From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Dec 12 05:31:58 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 95D3D16A41F; Mon, 12 Dec 2005 05:31:58 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jgrosch@mooseriver.com) Received: from mooseriver.com (h-66-166-146-73.snvacaid.covad.net [66.166.146.73]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E450243D66; Mon, 12 Dec 2005 05:31:57 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jgrosch@mooseriver.com) Received: by berkeley.mooseriver.com (Postfix, from userid 200) id 92BF317022; Sun, 11 Dec 2005 21:12:33 -0800 (PST) Date: Sun, 11 Dec 2005 21:12:33 -0800 From: Josef Grosch To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20051212051233.GA19269@mooseriver.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="T4sUOijqQbZv57TR" Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Organization: Moose River, LLC Subject: Cardbus panics X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: jgrosch@MooseRiver.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 12 Dec 2005 05:31:58 -0000 --T4sUOijqQbZv57TR Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable ----- Forwarded message from Josef Grosch ----- Date: Sat, 10 Dec 2005 13:52:43 -0800 From: Josef Grosch To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Cardbus panics I have an IBM T22 thinkpad running FreeBSD 5.4-RELEASE-p8. I have the CardBus devices in the current kernel. When I insert a CardBus device, A Xircom RealPort CardBus Ethernet I get a kernel panic like so; Dec 9 18:42:32 paris kernel: cbb alloc res fail=20 Dec 9 18:42:32 paris kernel: cardbus1: Can't get memory for IO ports=20 Dec 9 18:42:32 paris kernel: dc0: port 0-0x7f = mem \ 0x88000000-0x880007ff,0x88000800-0x88000fff at device 0.0 on cardbus1=20 Dec 9 18:42:32 paris kernel: cbb alloc res fail=20 Dec 9 18:42:32 paris kernel: dc0: couldn't map ports/memory=20 Dec 9 18:42:32 paris kernel: =20 Dec 9 18:42:32 paris kernel: =20 Dec 9 18:42:32 paris kernel: Fatal trap 12: page fault while in kernel mod= e=20 Dec 9 18:42:32 paris kernel: fault virtual address =3D 0x30=20 Dec 9 18:42:32 paris kernel: fault code =3D supervisor writ= e, pag\ e not present=20 Dec 9 18:42:32 paris kernel: instruction pointer =3D 0x8:0xc07b01f2= =20 Dec 9 18:42:32 paris kernel: stack pointer =3D 0x10:0xd5428c10= =20 Dec 9 18:42:32 paris kernel: frame pointer =3D 0x10:0xd5428c14= =20 Dec 9 18:42:32 paris kernel: code segment =3D base 0x0, limit= 0xfff\ ff, type 0x1b=20 Dec 9 18:42:32 paris kernel: =3D DPL 0, pres 1, def32 1, gran 1=20 Dec 9 18:42:32 paris kernel: processor eflags =3D interrupt enabled, resu= me, IO\ PL =3D 0=20 Dec 9 18:42:32 paris kernel: current process =3D 38 (cbb1)=20 Dec 9 18:42:32 paris kernel: trap number =3D 12=20 Dec 9 18:42:32 paris kernel: panic: page fault=20 Dec 9 18:42:32 paris kernel: Uptime: 35s=20 Dec 9 18:42:32 paris kernel: Cannot dump. No dump device defined.=20 Dec 9 18:42:32 paris kernel: Automatic reboot in 15 seconds - press a key = on t\ he console to abort=20 Any ideas How I can fix this? The suggested sysctl,=20 hw.pci.allow_unsupported_io_range, does not seem to exist in the kernel. Josef --=20 Josef Grosch | Another day closer to a | FreeBSD 5.4 jgrosch@MooseRiver.com | Micro$oft free world | Berkeley, Ca. ----- End forwarded message ----- --=20 Josef Grosch | Another day closer to a | FreeBSD 5.4 jgrosch@MooseRiver.com | Micro$oft free world | Berkeley, Ca. --T4sUOijqQbZv57TR Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iD8DBQFDnQbBy8prLS1GYSERAqi1AJ45yPbo8tIo6oDMmLPcpkL5q/i46wCggIcV tNJV9vI2CRpa3L5P1aoREZ4= =rky2 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --T4sUOijqQbZv57TR-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Dec 12 05:46:02 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DAF5916A41F for ; Mon, 12 Dec 2005 05:46:02 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from gaynw@bristolsystems.com) Received: from fed1rmmtao01.cox.net (fed1rmmtao01.cox.net [68.230.241.38]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7B31043D53 for ; Mon, 12 Dec 2005 05:46:01 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from gaynw@bristolsystems.com) Received: from workdog ([68.228.71.3]) by fed1rmmtao01.cox.net (InterMail vM.6.01.05.02 201-2131-123-102-20050715) with ESMTP id <20051212054522.OWQX15695.fed1rmmtao01.cox.net@workdog>; Mon, 12 Dec 2005 00:45:22 -0500 From: "Gayn Winters" To: "'Matt S. Gann'" , Date: Sun, 11 Dec 2005 21:45:40 -0800 Message-ID: <036301c5fedf$4c716870$6501a8c0@workdog> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.4024 In-Reply-To: <20051212040744.66038.qmail@web54201.mail.yahoo.com> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 Importance: Normal Cc: Subject: RE: FreeBSD starter machine X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 12 Dec 2005 05:46:03 -0000 > [mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org] On Behalf Of Matt S. Gann > Sent: Sunday, December 11, 2005 8:08 PM > To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org > Subject: FreeBSD starter machine > > I have a few questions about FreeBSD. I am just beginning > to get into UNIX. I know a few line commands, but really > want to get familiar and comfortable with the OS. I have > been intrugued by FreeBSD for many years now, but I own a > windows-based PC and am not keen about running dual OS's. I > would like to get a cheap, used, small desktop or laptop to > "tinker" with Unix/Linix and FreeBSD. However, I know little > to nothing about system requirements and/or hardware > compability. I was thinking of an old 486 or Pentium 1 to > get started. Any thoughts on what I could start with? Dual booting works fine if you have some "extra" disk space (or an extra disk you can add.) If you want a separate PC, then don't use too old of a machine. While it is fun doing useful things on old systems, for your first unix system you don't want to spend too much time getting old hardware to work or repairing it when it dies. Your time is better spent learning the OS. Also, while I would recommend learning a unix system in command mode before bringing up a windowing system, if you want to learn unix windowing systems, then you are going to want a somewhat faster cpu with a decent video system. With a little looking around, you can probably get, at near zero cost, a PC that is <5 years old. That will put you in the 400Mhz+ range and any unix will be very happy with most configurations that you find on such a PC. I'd insist on a 100mbps NIC and a decent CDROM as well. Make sure the PC boots from the CDROM. (Try before you buy.) Not only is a unix installation easier when booting from a CD, but there are several handy CD based tools and diagnostics. I'd also look for a bigger box with a few spare PCI slots so that you can add "stuff" easily as you are learning. For $19 I bought a new 2-port Belkin KVM switch, which I use to switch between my MS-Windows PC and my "other" desktop, which I will soon upgrade from FreeBSD 5.4 to 6.0. This saves a lot of space on my desk, and switching between the two is just a couple keystrokes. You might consider it. It is especially handy when you are trying out different installations. For my FreeBSD servers, I use Putty to ssh into them from my Windows machine (and openssh from my FreeBSD machines.) The key thing is to make it easy to access your unix system(s) so that you learn faster. Have fun! -gayn Bristol Systems Inc. 714/532-6776 www.bristolsystems.com From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Dec 12 05:47:57 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 816FF16A41F for ; Mon, 12 Dec 2005 05:47:57 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from roberthuff@rcn.com) Received: from smtp01.mrf.mail.rcn.net (smtp01.mrf.mail.rcn.net [207.172.4.61]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ACDEC43D73 for ; Mon, 12 Dec 2005 05:47:50 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from roberthuff@rcn.com) Received: from 209-6-203-192.c3-0.smr-ubr1.sbo-smr.ma.cable.rcn.com (HELO jerusalem.litteratus.org.litteratus.org) ([209.6.203.192]) by smtp01.mrf.mail.rcn.net with ESMTP; 12 Dec 2005 00:47:49 -0500 X-IronPort-AV: i="3.99,240,1131339600"; d="scan'208"; a="140624189:sNHT23453152" From: Robert Huff MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <17309.3922.964718.852682@jerusalem.litteratus.org> Date: Mon, 12 Dec 2005 00:49:06 -0500 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <20051211232229.E9320@tripel.monochrome.org> References: <20051212040744.66038.qmail@web54201.mail.yahoo.com> <20051211232229.E9320@tripel.monochrome.org> X-Mailer: VM 7.17 under 21.5 (beta23) "daikon" XEmacs Lucid Subject: Re: FreeBSD starter machine X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 12 Dec 2005 05:47:57 -0000 Chris Hill writes: > Here's a thought: Since it's the holiday season, many retailers > are offering deals on new computers. If your current Win* box is > a few years old, how about upgrading to a new machine? Or find a friend who's upgrading, and offer them a reasonable price for their old machine. Pentiums in the mid 1 ghz range are disgustingly cheap. Some thoughts: 1) _Big_ disk. Even for a training machine, an installation with the source tree and X will run larger than you think. 2) Memory. At least 256M, and 512M if you can get it. 3) Unless you're planning on replacing it anyway, check the ethernet card. Some older cards are notorious for poor performance; search the mailing list archives for discussions. Robert Huff From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Dec 12 05:48:45 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E044A16A41F for ; Mon, 12 Dec 2005 05:48:45 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jgrosch@mooseriver.com) Received: from mooseriver.com (h-66-166-146-73.snvacaid.covad.net [66.166.146.73]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6226A43D7F for ; Mon, 12 Dec 2005 05:48:37 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jgrosch@mooseriver.com) Received: by berkeley.mooseriver.com (Postfix, from userid 200) id 1414F1701E; Sat, 10 Dec 2005 13:52:43 -0800 (PST) Date: Sat, 10 Dec 2005 13:52:43 -0800 From: Josef Grosch To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20051210215242.GA90654@mooseriver.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="Kj7319i9nmIyA2yE" Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Organization: Moose River, LLC Subject: Cardbus panics X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: jgrosch@MooseRiver.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 12 Dec 2005 05:48:46 -0000 --Kj7319i9nmIyA2yE Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I have an IBM T22 thinkpad running FreeBSD 5.4-RELEASE-p8. I have the CardBus devices in the current kernel. When I insert a CardBus device, A Xircom RealPort CardBus Ethernet I get a kernel panic like so; Dec 9 18:42:32 paris kernel: cbb alloc res fail=20 Dec 9 18:42:32 paris kernel: cardbus1: Can't get memory for IO ports=20 Dec 9 18:42:32 paris kernel: dc0: port 0-0x7f = mem \ 0x88000000-0x880007ff,0x88000800-0x88000fff at device 0.0 on cardbus1=20 Dec 9 18:42:32 paris kernel: cbb alloc res fail=20 Dec 9 18:42:32 paris kernel: dc0: couldn't map ports/memory=20 Dec 9 18:42:32 paris kernel: =20 Dec 9 18:42:32 paris kernel: =20 Dec 9 18:42:32 paris kernel: Fatal trap 12: page fault while in kernel mod= e=20 Dec 9 18:42:32 paris kernel: fault virtual address =3D 0x30=20 Dec 9 18:42:32 paris kernel: fault code =3D supervisor writ= e, pag\ e not present=20 Dec 9 18:42:32 paris kernel: instruction pointer =3D 0x8:0xc07b01f2= =20 Dec 9 18:42:32 paris kernel: stack pointer =3D 0x10:0xd5428c10= =20 Dec 9 18:42:32 paris kernel: frame pointer =3D 0x10:0xd5428c14= =20 Dec 9 18:42:32 paris kernel: code segment =3D base 0x0, limit= 0xfff\ ff, type 0x1b=20 Dec 9 18:42:32 paris kernel: =3D DPL 0, pres 1, def32 1, gran 1=20 Dec 9 18:42:32 paris kernel: processor eflags =3D interrupt enabled, resu= me, IO\ PL =3D 0=20 Dec 9 18:42:32 paris kernel: current process =3D 38 (cbb1)=20 Dec 9 18:42:32 paris kernel: trap number =3D 12=20 Dec 9 18:42:32 paris kernel: panic: page fault=20 Dec 9 18:42:32 paris kernel: Uptime: 35s=20 Dec 9 18:42:32 paris kernel: Cannot dump. No dump device defined.=20 Dec 9 18:42:32 paris kernel: Automatic reboot in 15 seconds - press a key = on t\ he console to abort=20 Any ideas How I can fix this? The suggested sysctl,=20 hw.pci.allow_unsupported_io_range, does not seem to exist in the kernel. Josef --=20 Josef Grosch | Another day closer to a | FreeBSD 5.4 jgrosch@MooseRiver.com | Micro$oft free world | Berkeley, Ca. --Kj7319i9nmIyA2yE Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iD8DBQFDm04qy8prLS1GYSERAvL9AKC4v9XQTXLmT0ZI1DVHhwcRrNX7jQCgrSzQ J3Z4ihu4nAuC6EHYv2lL6Zg= =vBgn -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Kj7319i9nmIyA2yE-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Dec 12 07:21:15 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 555EB16A41F for ; Mon, 12 Dec 2005 07:21:15 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from igorr@speechpro.com) Received: from speechpro.com (speech-tech-2.ip.PeterStar.net [81.3.190.130]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CA7FF43D49 for ; Mon, 12 Dec 2005 07:21:14 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from igorr@speechpro.com) Received: from sysadm.stc ([192.168.2.26]) by s1.stc with esmtp (Exim 4.53 (FreeBSD)) id 1Elhzi-000IIo-Pf; Mon, 12 Dec 2005 10:21:10 +0300 Received: from localhost.stc ([127.0.0.1] helo=sysadm.stc) by sysadm.stc with esmtp (Exim 4.54 (FreeBSD)) id 1ElhzG-0008xC-6S; Mon, 12 Dec 2005 10:20:42 +0300 Received: (from igorr@localhost) by sysadm.stc (8.13.4/8.13.3/Submit) id jBC7Kfsq034421; Mon, 12 Dec 2005 10:20:41 +0300 (MSK) (envelope-from igorr) Date: Mon, 12 Dec 2005 10:20:41 +0300 From: Igor Robul To: Ian Moore Message-ID: <20051212072041.GD34127@sysadm.stc> References: <200512071741.57495.no-spam@swiftdsl.com.au> <20051208083015.GE89624@sysadm.stc> <200512100926.44709.no-spam@swiftdsl.com.au> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <200512100926.44709.no-spam@swiftdsl.com.au> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.11 X-Archived: Yes Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Changing maximum number of groups in FBSD - is it feasible? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 12 Dec 2005 07:21:15 -0000 On Sat, Dec 10, 2005 at 09:26:36AM +1030, Ian Moore wrote: > So it actually does work! And there's no need to adjust or re-compile any > ports, just world and kernel? World, kernel, static linked ports and all ports which use NGROUPS_MAX constant for space allocation. Samba worked fine for me without recompilation :-) From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Dec 12 07:28:20 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E341216A41F for ; Mon, 12 Dec 2005 07:28:20 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) Received: from mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com (mail.web-strider.com [65.75.192.90]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6C61E43D49 for ; Mon, 12 Dec 2005 07:28:20 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) Received: from tedwin2k (nat-rtr.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [65.75.197.130]) by mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com (8.11.1/8.11.1) with SMTP id jBC7VUb92918; Sun, 11 Dec 2005 23:31:30 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) From: "Ted Mittelstaedt" To: "Yance Kowara" , Date: Sun, 11 Dec 2005 23:28:17 -0800 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.6604 (9.0.2911.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1506 In-Reply-To: <20051212030305.76424.qmail@web30304.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Importance: Normal Cc: Subject: RE: FreeBSD router two DSL connections X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 12 Dec 2005 07:28:21 -0000 If both DSL lines go to the same ISP it is easy, run PPP on them and setup multilink PPP. The ISP has to do so also. If they are going to different ISP's then you cannot do it with any operating system or device save BGP - the idea is completely -stupid- to put it simply. If you think different, then explain why and I'll shoot every networking scenario you present so full of holes you will think it's swiss cheese. And if you think your going to run BGP I'll shoot that full of holes also. Note that Steven's scenario below is for 2 circuits that both start at a single entity, and both end at a single entity. Ted >-----Original Message----- >From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org >[mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]On Behalf Of Yance Kowara >Sent: Sunday, December 11, 2005 7:03 PM >To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org >Subject: FreeBSD router two DSL connections > > >Hi all, > >I am trying to figure out if *BSD can achieve this: > >I have two DSL connections to play with, and I would >like to configure a *BSD router that can combine the >two DSLs together. > >There is a howto at >http://stevenfettig.com/mythoughts/archives/000173.php > >But it concerns OpenBSD and it was for a T1 connection >using a dual T1 card. I would like to configure one on >2 DSLs connected to two individual NICs. > >Is this feasible at all, or should I just invest in a >dual Wan hardware? > >Kind regards, > >Yance > >__________________________________________________ >Do You Yahoo!? >Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around >http://mail.yahoo.com >_______________________________________________ >freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list >http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions >To unsubscribe, send any mail to >"freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > >-- >No virus found in this incoming message. >Checked by AVG Free Edition. >Version: 7.1.371 / Virus Database: 267.13.13/197 - Release >Date: 12/9/2005 > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Dec 12 07:38:21 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4252F16A41F for ; Mon, 12 Dec 2005 07:38:21 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) Received: from mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com (mail.web-strider.com [65.75.192.90]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9BEB143D5D for ; Mon, 12 Dec 2005 07:38:19 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) Received: from tedwin2k (nat-rtr.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [65.75.197.130]) by mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com (8.11.1/8.11.1) with SMTP id jBC7fPb92986; Sun, 11 Dec 2005 23:41:25 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) From: "Ted Mittelstaedt" To: "Kris Kennaway" , "Danial Thom" Date: Sun, 11 Dec 2005 23:38:13 -0800 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1250" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.6604 (9.0.2911.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1506 In-Reply-To: <20051211201328.GA5652@xor.obsecurity.org> Importance: Normal Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: RE: Freebsd Theme Song X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 12 Dec 2005 07:38:21 -0000 >-----Original Message----- >From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org >[mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]On Behalf Of Kris Kennaway >Sent: Sunday, December 11, 2005 12:13 PM >To: Danial Thom >Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Kris Kennaway >Subject: Re: Freebsd Theme Song > > >On Sun, Dec 11, 2005 at 06:33:49AM -0800, Danial Thom wrote: > >> > > But thats not even the point. The point is that the purpose of >> > > tearing apart 4.x was to go MP, and MP >> > > performance is dismill across the board. > >> > This statement is simply false. It's actually >> > quite funny to read. > >> Whats "false" about it, Kris? > >I've quoted it again for you above. When you take your packet >bridging blinders off, there are many performance improvements to be >measured from SMP kernels (and UP, for that matter) on FreeBSD 6.0 >compared to 4.11. Filesystem performance, for one. > >FreeBSD 6 is 30% faster than 4.11 at filesystem write operations >(extracting a large tarball full of small files and many >subdirectories) with an amr disk array on the same UP system. On this >hardware FreeBSD 4.11 is unable to make effective use of a second CPU >on the same test (it's often slightly slower); FreeBSD 6.0 receives a >10-15% boost on this workload from a second CPU (this seems to be >limited by hardware access constraints - the amr hardware API does not >encourage concurrency). > >Performance on a benchmark that does a lot of parallel filesystem >reads and forks tens of thousands of processes (ports collection INDEX >builds) is 25% faster on 6.0 than 5.4, and is about 3 times faster >under SMP than UP on a 4-CPU machine. > >On a 4-CPU amd64 machine running 6.0, concurrent write performance to >a md is 2.7 times faster under SMP than UP. On a 14-CPU sparc64 >machine it is 6.1 times faster (and it would be higher except the very >low memory bandwidth and 400MHz CPU speed cause some of the kernel >threads to saturate easily). > >But of course, Denial tells us that none of this means anything about >FreeBSD performance and scalability, because it doesn't help him with >the only thing he cares about, which is to sell systems that bridge >high-speed networks. > Kris, To me, this argument sounds suspiciously like "I don't care that networking performance is slower because the shit in the OS that _I_ use is faster, so fuck all the rest of you who want faster network performance." You, meanwhile, are criticizing Danial for in effect saying "I don't care that filesystem stuff is faster because the shit in the OS that _I_ use is slower, so fuck all the rest of you who are happy you have faster filesystem performance" Kind of pot calling kettle black, here. If you are AGREEING with Danial that 5.4 and 6.0 networking performance is SLOWER then 4.X performance, why are you HAPPY and CONTENTED with this? Is it now OK to speed up one part of the system at the expense of slowing down another part? Sounds to me like the argument Microsoft makes that so what that Windows XP is slower than Windows 2K, it has lots of better eye-candy. Ted From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Dec 12 07:42:45 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 63C3216A41F for ; Mon, 12 Dec 2005 07:42:45 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) Received: from mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com (mail.web-strider.com [65.75.192.90]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 054D443D8C for ; Mon, 12 Dec 2005 07:42:35 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) Received: from tedwin2k (nat-rtr.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [65.75.197.130]) by mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com (8.11.1/8.11.1) with SMTP id jBC7jdb93001; Sun, 11 Dec 2005 23:45:39 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) From: "Ted Mittelstaedt" To: , Date: Sun, 11 Dec 2005 23:42:27 -0800 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.6604 (9.0.2911.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1506 In-Reply-To: <439C3C3F.8070404@makeworld.com> Importance: Normal Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, Kris Kennaway Subject: RE: Freebsd Theme Song X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 12 Dec 2005 07:42:45 -0000 >-----Original Message----- >From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org >[mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]On Behalf Of Chris >Sent: Sunday, December 11, 2005 6:49 AM >To: danial_thom@yahoo.com >Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Kris Kennaway >Subject: Re: Freebsd Theme Song > > >Danial Thom wrote: > >> Kris is just a PR front man for a "team" of >> developers that is lost. Their "theory" on how to >> build a better mousetrap for MP is completely >> wrong, and now they're going to try something >> else, using the entire FreeBSD community as >> guinea pigs. First 5.4 was the answer. Then 6.0. >> Now it looks like 6.0 sucks too. Its a damn >> shame. >> >> DT > >IF you are such a man that can actually call himself an engineer - why >hide behind Yahoo mail? > Good point. Legally no entity can compel Danial to hide his real name when he's making posts on his own time. This business about his job requiring it is pure bullcrap. Get on the cisco-nsp mailing list, there's plenty of Cisco developers who post from time to time with real cisco.com e-mail addresses. The only thing an employer can demand is such posts if they refer to the employee position at a company that the poster attach a disclaimer stating that it's not an official corporate communication, etc. as well as the person cannot disclose trade secrets. (and no, under the law an employer cannot claim that an employee simply talking about FreeBSD is revealing a trade secret, the definition of that term is fairly strict) But an employer cannot demand an employee must not identify his employer. Only a government can do that to a government employee such as military or cia or some such. I choose to use the same name in cyberspace as IRL, for a number of reasons, the primary one being I know that when it comes to brass tacks, you can run but you cannot hide on the Internet. Any investigative agency with police powers can get Danial's real name if they really wanted to, and there's plenty of illegal ways to to it too. I regard people who hide behind aliases as rather inexperienced and immature people, who have little understanding of how the Internet really works, but the fact is that a lot of people do it, and it is not impossible to develop some credibility with an alias. >Next, IF you are as you claim to be - WHY are you not on the "team" or >at least contributing code? > Chris, you cannot effect change by being part of the problem. If Danial truly thinks that the direction the core team is going with FreeBSD is wrong, then why would he be contributing to the problem by helping them? >To insult one person for not seeing your point of view is a show of >closed mindedness - to insult a whole list of users ... Well, I do think >that speaks volumes about you - as a whole. > Well here's from my POV for what that's worth: 1) Why the hell is this discussion even taking place under a thread titled "FreeBSD Theme Song"? 2) While the topic of this discussion is pertinent and interesting, I have seen no repeatable and even somewhat authoratative test results on all the systems in question. Simply saying "I copied a 200MB file across FreeBSD in bridged mode" is not enough. If Danial has seen problems he needs to post a website that details the issues down to a complete hardware workup and rundown on his network and test systems, and that includes results from the managed switches that he's using. 3) You by contrast and others have also not posted a scrap of hard data or results that contradicts Danial, testing that is repeatable and such. This entire thing would be easily solved by someone actually doing the work to verify test results, rather than a bunch of opinions. There's plenty of valid opinion-only topics out there, but this isn't one. Ted From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Dec 12 07:48:48 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A6F1716A41F for ; Mon, 12 Dec 2005 07:48:48 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from sasa@stupar.homelinux.net) Received: from avs2.arnes.si (avs2.arnes.si [193.2.1.75]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 19D5E43D46 for ; Mon, 12 Dec 2005 07:48:47 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from sasa@stupar.homelinux.net) Received: from localhost (avs2.arnes.si [193.2.1.75]) by avs2.arnes.si (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9BD5F26D841 for ; Mon, 12 Dec 2005 08:48:46 +0100 (CET) Received: from avs2.arnes.si ([193.2.1.75]) by localhost (avs2.arnes.si [193.2.1.75]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 61470-10 for ; Mon, 12 Dec 2005 08:48:46 +0100 (CET) Received: from xmail.homelinux.net (cmb16-74.dial-up.arnes.si [194.249.51.74]) by avs2.arnes.si (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2E10926D834 for ; Mon, 12 Dec 2005 08:48:46 +0100 (CET) Received: from [192.168.10.249] (master.workgroup [192.168.10.249]) (authenticated bits=0) by xmail.homelinux.net (8.13.5/8.13.3) with ESMTP id jBC7mjoJ017917 for ; Mon, 12 Dec 2005 08:48:45 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from sasa@stupar.homelinux.net) Date: Mon, 12 Dec 2005 08:48:45 +0100 From: Sasa Stupar To: FreeBSD Q ML Message-ID: <7D235FC15D5169C65EAE5628@[192.168.10.249]> In-Reply-To: References: X-Mailer: Mulberry/3.1.6 (Win32) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV version 0.87.1, clamav-milter version 0.87 on mig29.workgroup X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at arnes.si Subject: Re: Dansguardian port X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 12 Dec 2005 07:48:48 -0000 --On 11. december 2005 18:50 +0100 Sasa Stupar wrote: > Hi! > > I have installed dansguardian on FBSD 5.4 from the ports but I have found > out that this port was not made for antivirus support - (need to patch > the source). The port is fresh since I have just done cvsup my ports tree. > Am I missing something? Nevermind, I have just installed it from dansguardian-devel port and it works fine. -- Sasa Stupar From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Dec 12 07:51:32 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7A81816A41F for ; Mon, 12 Dec 2005 07:51:32 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from algould@datawok.com) Received: from smtpauth08.mail.atl.earthlink.net (smtpauth08.mail.atl.earthlink.net [209.86.89.68]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3621F43D64 for ; Mon, 12 Dec 2005 07:51:31 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from algould@datawok.com) Received: from [206.255.31.21] (helo=grokwell.org) by smtpauth08.mail.atl.earthlink.net with asmtp (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.34) id 1EliT2-0006ZM-CP; Mon, 12 Dec 2005 02:51:28 -0500 Date: Mon, 12 Dec 2005 01:48:14 -0600 From: "Andrew L. Gould" To: "Matt S. Gann" Message-ID: <20051212014814.01b01bd1@grokwell.org> In-Reply-To: <20051212040744.66038.qmail@web54201.mail.yahoo.com> References: <20051212040744.66038.qmail@web54201.mail.yahoo.com> X-Mailer: Sylpheed-Claws 1.9.11 (GTK+ 2.6.8; i386-portbld-freebsd5.4) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-ELNK-Trace: ee791d459e3d6817d780f4a490ca69563f9fea00a6dd62bc791ca011e8bb9d684ac9503f2ae1e9cf350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c X-Originating-IP: 206.255.31.21 Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD starter machine X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 12 Dec 2005 07:51:32 -0000 On Sun, 11 Dec 2005 20:07:44 -0800 (PST) "Matt S. Gann" wrote: > I have a few questions about FreeBSD. I am just beginning to get > into UNIX. I know a few line commands, but really want to get > familiar and comfortable with the OS. I have been intrugued by > FreeBSD for many years now, but I own a windows-based PC and am not > keen about running dual OS's. I would like to get a cheap, used, > small desktop or laptop to "tinker" with Unix/Linix and FreeBSD. > However, I know little to nothing about system requirements and/or > hardware compability. I was thinking of an old 486 or Pentium 1 to > get started. Any thoughts on what I could start with? Sincerely, > Matt S. Gann > I've had no problems installing FreeBSD on old Pentiums. I also have a Dell Inspiron 8100 (laptop) that dual boots Windows XP and FreeBSD 5- STABLE. The problem with old equipment is that it will be slow. Whether your using a resource intensive desktop environment such as KDE or learning to customize the kernel, you'll want a bit of speed and a bit more of RAM. If you go with an old system, try to max out the motherboard's RAM. Once you're happy with FreeBSD on old equipment, you'll get the itch to see what it can do on really good hardware. I'm currently installing FreeBSD 6.0 on a Pentium II 333 with 128MB RAM for my grandson. To help compensate for the system's limitations, I've installed a light weight window manager. It's in situations like this that you see real benefits to having choices in software. Good luck (and welcome to sanity)! Andrew Gould From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Dec 12 08:05:19 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 10D4F16A41F for ; Mon, 12 Dec 2005 08:05:19 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from yance_kowara@yahoo.com) Received: from web30303.mail.mud.yahoo.com (web30303.mail.mud.yahoo.com [68.142.200.96]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id A2B2543D5C for ; Mon, 12 Dec 2005 08:05:18 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from yance_kowara@yahoo.com) Received: (qmail 25847 invoked by uid 60001); 12 Dec 2005 08:05:18 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=SDxXqyoOZSYXusfCdkB8A2i5jcj1gQ2WjClz0K3w82spuGiVUd12lcX7e1xDLwRR0owPm488eyTaffB3SY0W9WTdB+XvDUWSCuVd/Tad+UIivOw0/0j3LuVNv5qh2DxHeQH9lY5F2q3l2HPouhvhELTosfin5Acqhq9M136TP1g= ; Message-ID: <20051212080518.25845.qmail@web30303.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Received: from [61.88.127.146] by web30303.mail.mud.yahoo.com via HTTP; Mon, 12 Dec 2005 00:05:18 PST Date: Mon, 12 Dec 2005 00:05:18 -0800 (PST) From: Yance Kowara To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Subject: RE: FreeBSD router two DSL connections X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 12 Dec 2005 08:05:19 -0000 Ted, Thanks for the advice. A friend of mine has just acquired an Internet Cafe. The previous owner connected the lan to 2 different ADSL (two different ISPs) one is a back up he said. So, two ADSL routers with half the Lan connected to one router and another half to the other router. I am just thingking of a way to optimise the connection and came accross Steven's article. I thought I could do something similar with *BSD + pf. There is such thing as Dual Wan ADSL router: http://www.infosmart.com.tw/p-ndr3024.htm However, they are quite pricey compare to setting up a *BSD box (using old readily available hardware). So, if this load balancing idea does not work, any other thing I can do to optimise two DSLs? I also came accross this (linux way): http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/Adv-Routing-HOWTO/lartc.rpdb.multiple-links.html Is this worth trying? Kind regards, Yance Kowara --- Ted Mittelstaedt wrote: > > If both DSL lines go to the same ISP it is easy, run > PPP on them and setup multilink PPP. The ISP has to > do so also. > > If they are going to different ISP's then you cannot > do it with any operating system or device save BGP - > the idea is > completely -stupid- to put it simply. If you think > different, > then explain why and I'll shoot every networking > scenario > you present so full of holes you will think it's > swiss cheese. > And if you think your going to run BGP I'll shoot > that full > of holes also. > > Note that Steven's scenario below is for 2 circuits > that > both start at a single entity, and both end at a > single entity. > > Ted > > > >-----Original Message----- > >From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > >[mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]On > Behalf Of Yance Kowara > >Sent: Sunday, December 11, 2005 7:03 PM > >To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > >Subject: FreeBSD router two DSL connections > > > > > >Hi all, > > > >I am trying to figure out if *BSD can achieve this: > > > >I have two DSL connections to play with, and I > would > >like to configure a *BSD router that can combine > the > >two DSLs together. > > > >There is a howto at > >http://stevenfettig.com/mythoughts/archives/000173.php > > > >But it concerns OpenBSD and it was for a T1 > connection > >using a dual T1 card. I would like to configure one > on > >2 DSLs connected to two individual NICs. > > > >Is this feasible at all, or should I just invest in > a > >dual Wan hardware? > > > >Kind regards, > > > >Yance > > > >__________________________________________________ > >Do You Yahoo!? > >Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam > protection around > >http://mail.yahoo.com > >_______________________________________________ > >freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > >http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > >To unsubscribe, send any mail to > >"freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > > >-- > >No virus found in this incoming message. > >Checked by AVG Free Edition. > >Version: 7.1.371 / Virus Database: 267.13.13/197 - > Release > >Date: 12/9/2005 > > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Dec 12 10:17:58 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 604BE16A422 for ; Mon, 12 Dec 2005 10:17:58 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from no-spam@swiftdsl.com.au) Received: from smtp.ade.swiftdsl.com.au (smtp.ade.swiftdsl.com.au [218.214.228.98]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 78D7643D53 for ; Mon, 12 Dec 2005 10:17:57 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from no-spam@swiftdsl.com.au) Received: (qmail 25252 invoked from network); 12 Dec 2005 10:17:58 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO daemon.foo.lan) (218.214.176.70) by smtp.ade.swiftdsl.com.au with SMTP; 12 Dec 2005 10:17:58 -0000 From: Ian Moore To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Mon, 12 Dec 2005 20:47:43 +1030 User-Agent: KMail/1.8.3 References: <200512110916.28583.no-spam@swiftdsl.com.au> <200512120210.17457.list-freebsd-2004@morbius.sent.com> <200512111954.34923.kstewart@owt.com> In-Reply-To: <200512111954.34923.kstewart@owt.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="nextPart2815764.UJphjVLv94"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=pgp-sha1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <200512122047.50438.no-spam@swiftdsl.com.au> Subject: Re: Removing a port without upsetting dependencies X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 12 Dec 2005 10:17:58 -0000 --nextPart2815764.UJphjVLv94 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-6" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline On Monday 12 December 2005 14:24, Kent Stewart wrote: > On Sunday 11 December 2005 06:10 pm, RW wrote: > > On Saturday 10 December 2005 22:46, Ian Moore wrote: > > > Hi, > > > I have mplayer installed and at one stage I installed the > > > mplayer-skins port as well. Then I got sick of dealing with the > > > skins port being broken a lot because the source files are often > > > unfetchable, so I removed the port (I can't remember what method I > > > used to do that now). > > > > A much better solution is to: > > > > cd /usr/ports/multimedia/mplayer-skins && make config > > > > then deselect everything, but the default skin. > > > > Since I did that I haven't had any problem with unfetchable skins. > > If you go into distfiles/mplayer and rm all of the files that are out of > date, you won't have any problem either. IIRC, the names haven't > changed but the MD5 and sizes have and it won't refetch them until you > remove them. The skins aren't broken. There is something slightly out > of whack with the Makefile. > > There may be an easier way but cd and rm * works just fine. > > Kent Thanks for the suggestions. I'm going with the "choose the default skin onl= y"=20 idea - that way I don't have to editi the make file each time the port is=20 updated. Cheers, =2D-=20 Ian gpg key: http://home.swiftdsl.com.au/~imoore/no-spam.asc --nextPart2815764.UJphjVLv94 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.2 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQBDnU5OPUlnmbKkJ6ARAqGPAJ9IxVBQy6BAqp6HsQvAi3cKbXtaXACgrzka 2Qd8wV7zgyq2fmHyJ490AoI= =xbFu -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --nextPart2815764.UJphjVLv94-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Dec 12 10:41:46 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 17CF516A41F for ; Mon, 12 Dec 2005 10:41:46 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from kjelderg@gmail.com) Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.205]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A780543D4C for ; Mon, 12 Dec 2005 10:41:45 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from kjelderg@gmail.com) Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 40so1399732nzk for ; Mon, 12 Dec 2005 02:41:45 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; b=R0+skhGtu14nIM5YZdG78y5ix3DWx3C7HuqdG92XLsKhMZFocfhPelG895CgyIRgpj3ED/qOaXkl6cyBzmdGYBUM0SGxEr66yY8m1ZGpz8Fl/9npDO1C38tWhGPjt5nck8EMZ9+pO4F3nfwRMlR603MINdI6hOi7rDLx1gNa0AY= Received: by 10.64.203.5 with SMTP id a5mr5440746qbg; Mon, 12 Dec 2005 02:41:44 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.65.22.9 with HTTP; Mon, 12 Dec 2005 02:41:44 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: Date: Mon, 12 Dec 2005 19:41:44 +0900 From: Eric Kjeldergaard To: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline Subject: NFS and inability to mount remotely X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 12 Dec 2005 10:41:46 -0000 I'm getting the following error trying to mount the nfs exports that I have set up. [tcp] nfshost:/exportPath: RPCPROG_NFS: RPC: Port mapper failure - RPC: Timed out to get it I'm running this mount command: mount -v -t nfs -o tcp nfshost:/exportPath /mnt/temp/ If I run that same command (using localhost or it's hostname or ip) on the server it mounts instantly. I currently am trying the share with no ips in exports which makes it claim that it is sharde to everybody. The same happens' however if I put the clients IP in the exports file as well. It seems that the following output is said to be useful: [~] #rpcinfo -p svnhost program vers proto port service 100000 4 tcp 111 rpcbind 100000 3 tcp 111 rpcbind 100000 2 tcp 111 rpcbind 100000 4 udp 111 rpcbind 100000 3 udp 111 rpcbind 100000 2 udp 111 rpcbind 100000 4 local 111 rpcbind 100000 3 local 111 rpcbind 100000 2 local 111 rpcbind 100005 1 udp 1014 mountd 100005 3 udp 1014 mountd 100005 1 tcp 789 mountd 100005 3 tcp 789 mountd 100003 2 udp 2049 nfs 100003 3 udp 2049 nfs 100003 2 tcp 2049 nfs 100003 3 tcp 2049 nfs [~] # Also, I've googled for quite a while, and the solutions to this seem to point to firewall rules, however, nmap shows the port as open and listening. The server is FreeBSD 6.0, client is -CURRENT . -- If I write a signature, my emails will appear more personalised. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Dec 12 10:43:35 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7267016A420 for ; Mon, 12 Dec 2005 10:43:35 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from plaine@gmail.com) Received: from nproxy.gmail.com (nproxy.gmail.com [64.233.182.198]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0CA5343D5E for ; Mon, 12 Dec 2005 10:43:19 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from plaine@gmail.com) Received: by nproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id b2so478049nfe for ; Mon, 12 Dec 2005 02:43:18 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=URn8bivem7w7mZLerT6mojKAAOXeIJuBfjTg0ACNcW7ljYfjvRAqlRofJOUeMkWdMleMlmihZI2CZ+v8Z7NPOWXWgFqHHaP7zZVPHqrxDjGqtmBegpqI7Sa1watRK9hyj9AZT+e6+kFcUrhqU5gRGhS8A2SCxd7GDoxX1HhbLPM= Received: by 10.48.219.16 with SMTP id r16mr825213nfg; Mon, 12 Dec 2005 02:43:18 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.48.240.17 with HTTP; Mon, 12 Dec 2005 02:43:17 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: Date: Mon, 12 Dec 2005 12:43:18 +0200 From: Perttu Laine To: Odhiambo Washington , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <20051209133423.GG10676@ns2.wananchi.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <20051209075120.GK99618@ns2.wananchi.com> <20051209133423.GG10676@ns2.wananchi.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: Subject: Re: apache13 to 22 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 12 Dec 2005 10:43:35 -0000 On 12/9/05, Odhiambo Washington wrote: > BTW, I did not ask what motivation you have to upgrade to apache22 ;) > > Well. I can still answer that. I'm doing ssl and ipv6 so apache2 or apache2= 2 should be better there than 13. At least so I've heard from big boys. -- kpn @ IRCnet From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Dec 12 10:55:30 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5A7B216A41F for ; Mon, 12 Dec 2005 10:55:30 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from xfb52@dial.pipex.com) Received: from smtp-out2.blueyonder.co.uk (smtp-out2.blueyonder.co.uk [195.188.213.5]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A1AB943D67 for ; Mon, 12 Dec 2005 10:55:28 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from xfb52@dial.pipex.com) Received: from [82.41.32.173] ([82.41.32.173]) by smtp-out2.blueyonder.co.uk with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.6713); Mon, 12 Dec 2005 10:56:23 +0000 Message-ID: <439D571F.4000905@dial.pipex.com> Date: Mon, 12 Dec 2005 10:55:27 +0000 From: Alex Zbyslaw User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-GB; rv:1.7.12) Gecko/20051106 X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Keith Bottner References: <012a01c5fd0b$02378df0$1801a8c0@Stile> In-Reply-To: <012a01c5fd0b$02378df0$1801a8c0@Stile> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-OriginalArrivalTime: 12 Dec 2005 10:56:23.0308 (UTC) FILETIME=[B0EE24C0:01C5FF0A] Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Detect hardware changes X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 12 Dec 2005 10:55:30 -0000 Keith Bottner wrote: >I have not compiled a kernel. This is a standard FreeBSD 5.4-Release >installation. How can I check to see if the loadable module is installed? > > > Have a look in /var/run/dmesg.boot and see if you have a line like sk0: unknown media type 0xff If so, plug your card into the network and try again. Even if you don't see such a line, try it if you haven't already. If that doesn't work then what does /var/run/dmesg.boot show for sk0 and skc0? I have an SMC card based which fails to attach without a cable -- not sure if it needs to be plugged in to a router or not. The onboard chipset on a different PC has no such failing. --Alex From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Dec 12 11:01:48 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E5C1716A439 for ; Mon, 12 Dec 2005 11:01:48 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from work@ashleymoran.me.uk) Received: from mail.dc-servers.com (mail.dc-servers.com [83.243.101.206]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 88FED43D49 for ; Mon, 12 Dec 2005 11:01:45 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from work@ashleymoran.me.uk) Received: (qmail 23751 invoked by uid 399); 12 Dec 2005 10:58:46 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO alfie.jigsawhq.com) (work@ashleymoran.me.uk@213.106.224.113) by mail.dc-servers.com with SMTP; 12 Dec 2005 10:58:46 -0000 From: Ashley Moran Organization: Codeweavers Ltd To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Mon, 12 Dec 2005 10:55:46 +0000 User-Agent: KMail/1.8.3 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200512121055.47016.work@ashleymoran.me.uk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Disadvantages of running software through compat5x? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 12 Dec 2005 11:01:49 -0000 I have only one machine left running 5.4, but unfortunately it's a live web and database server (tight budget!) so I don't like tinkering with it too much. I was going to reinstall it with 6.0 and I just wondered if there was any reason why you shouldn't run a production server on the compat5x port for any length of time. I can't afford the downtime to remove all the ports and re-install them. Ashley From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Dec 12 11:06:40 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CFAB116A41F for ; Mon, 12 Dec 2005 11:06:40 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from xfb52@dial.pipex.com) Received: from smtp-out2.blueyonder.co.uk (smtp-out2.blueyonder.co.uk [195.188.213.5]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CA19743D5F for ; Mon, 12 Dec 2005 11:06:23 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from xfb52@dial.pipex.com) Received: from [82.41.32.173] ([82.41.32.173]) by smtp-out2.blueyonder.co.uk with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.6713); Mon, 12 Dec 2005 11:06:50 +0000 Message-ID: <439D5992.8040806@dial.pipex.com> Date: Mon, 12 Dec 2005 11:05:54 +0000 From: Alex Zbyslaw User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-GB; rv:1.7.12) Gecko/20051106 X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: c m References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-OriginalArrivalTime: 12 Dec 2005 11:06:50.0296 (UTC) FILETIME=[26A4EB80:01C5FF0C] Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: NVRM errors from nvidia.ko X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 12 Dec 2005 11:06:40 -0000 c m wrote: > I get this message with FreeBSD 6.0 and nvidia ports driver > NVRM: AGP cannot be enabled with this combination of AMD cpu and OS > kernel, upgrade reccomended. Athlon 64 754 3000+ newcastle. > > I get pci transfer rates and i need agp with FreeBSD's gart or nvidias > gart doesnt matter. http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/getmsg.cgi?fetch=89548+92546+/usr/local/www/db/text/2005/freebsd-questions/20051002.freebsd-questions --Alex From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Dec 12 11:25:50 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3BF5016A41F for ; Mon, 12 Dec 2005 11:25:50 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from mv@roq.com) Received: from vault.mel.jumbuck.com (ppp166-27.static.internode.on.net [150.101.166.27]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B5C6743D6A for ; Mon, 12 Dec 2005 11:25:48 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from mv@roq.com) Received: from vault.mel.jumbuck.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by vault.mel.jumbuck.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 845578A00D; Mon, 12 Dec 2005 22:25:46 +1100 (EST) Received: from [192.168.46.52] (unknown [192.168.46.250]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by vault.mel.jumbuck.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 449448A00A; Mon, 12 Dec 2005 22:25:46 +1100 (EST) Message-ID: <439D5E3B.7070000@roq.com> Date: Mon, 12 Dec 2005 22:25:47 +1100 From: Michael Vince User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD amd64; en-US; rv:1.7.12) Gecko/20051208 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: danial_thom@yahoo.com References: <20051211143349.68091.qmail@web33304.mail.mud.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <20051211143349.68091.qmail@web33304.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV using ClamSMTP Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, Kris Kennaway Subject: Re: Freebsd Theme Song X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 12 Dec 2005 11:25:50 -0000 What about just turning on Polling? I have polling turned out for a router and all I get is gigabit performance. I have tested it with a wire variety of tests from basic fetch tests from a FreeBSD client box via a FreeBSD router (with polling) to another FreeBSD box and all I got was gigabit performance in either 'ab' tests (would always gave 114megabytes/sec, or even just doing a 'fetch' of a single 1gig file I could get up to around 90 megabytes/sec which is largely file system read performance limited over network performance limited. Its the same with my Samba server sure without polling I get quite ordinary network performance but when I turn on polling its appears to be limited by the gigabit cable quality setup and the switch and quality of hardware like using Intel em gigabit ethernet devices. I agree that networking performance is really important and I do agree that FreeBSD out of the box doesn't perform as well as it could in those areas but there are some solutions for it that fill the gaps for all the situations I have faced, I plan to use them for as long as I need till things like interrupt latencies can be over come. People should enjoy FreeBSD for what it is, something thats not holding you back anywhere, there are countless examples. There is no one trying to design a system to squeeze money out of you, their not trying to force you to buy a rpm up2date system. They aren't holding you down with package choices such as being stuck on a old version of apache 2.0.x that just gets 'security' patched and never gets a version increment so you miss out of performance improvements of a particualy module of the stable Apache 2.0.x series, just so they can try and sell you a new version of CD so you can do a binary upgrade, the list can go forever. These systems are designed to control you and at the same time limit your possibilities because they 'fear' loosing that control of you, FreeBSD has no 'fear' riddled/limiting motivations because it has no evil intentions, and just like real freedom look at your choices you get. Fear is the path to the darkside. Alright I am going off topic, what I am trying to say is I think you are entiled to say what you like, I have sometimes thought in somewhat similar ways, but I also believe you should try and be happy with what you get from FreeBSD and if you really want things to move on then one of the best things that can be done is either raising funds for developers to work on it or providing code your self. Mike Danial Thom wrote: >Also, since you don't see to understand the test, >bridging is not routing. Its a rote function of >moving packets from one interface to another with >very little overhead. Its purely interrupt >driven, so the kernel's latencies in processing >interrupts is well exercised. Its a good test >because, unlike crap like netperf, it doesn't >involve sockets or any userland tasks. I know >you're not a real engineer Kris, so I don't >expect you to understand, but you also aren't >qualified to discredit the test, since you don't >know a damn thing about testing. > >I know you enjoy being the one-eyed man in the >land of the blind on this list Kris, But I doubt >people are stupid enough to buy into your >continued propaganda. There isn't one credible >test that shows that FreeBSD MP is worth any >consideration as a good performer, so it seems >doubtful that anyone with half a brain thinks it >is. > >Everything today is networking. What good is a >fast filesystem if it sits on a klunky kernel or >slow networking system? Who's going to build a >big honking MP server if is can't handle more >network traffic than a good UP system? > >Do you have a volkwagon engine in your Porche, >Kris? The problem with Kris is that he thinks >that if his car has a really cool radio that >people will buy it, even those its slow as shit. >That may be fine for the kind of guys that hang >out on the freebsd-questions list, or for little >old ladies. But its not "fine" with the kind of >people that used to rely on FreeBSD for serious >networking tasks. > >Kris is just a PR front man for a "team" of >developers that is lost. Their "theory" on how to >build a better mousetrap for MP is completely >wrong, and now they're going to try something >else, using the entire FreeBSD community as >guinea pigs. First 5.4 was the answer. Then 6.0. >Now it looks like 6.0 sucks too. Its a damn >shame. > >DT > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Dec 12 11:31:53 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2901916A420 for ; Mon, 12 Dec 2005 11:31:53 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ecrist@secure-computing.net) Received: from grog.secure-computing.net (grog.secure-computing.net [216.243.161.73]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6A49B43D8E for ; Mon, 12 Dec 2005 11:31:38 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ecrist@secure-computing.net) Received: from [192.168.1.6] (snipe.secure-computing.net [216.243.161.77]) (authenticated bits=0) by grog.secure-computing.net (8.13.3/8.13.3) with ESMTP id jBCBWk6E094916 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-SHA bits=128 verify=NOT); Mon, 12 Dec 2005 05:32:46 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from ecrist@secure-computing.net) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; s=grog; d=secure-computing.net; c=nofws; q=dns; h=in-reply-to:references:mime-version:content-type:message-id:cc: content-transfer-encoding:from:subject:date:to:x-mailer:x-spam-status:x-spam-checker-version; b=rX5XLT1IhWGyP0FmBbipTiyxeisP4Ah1eR0EcdIgwzlvxzNVaQ+g4PGUAb0xSFdVg TM3kgUCupYAnnS8BeE/Mg== In-Reply-To: <20051212080518.25845.qmail@web30303.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <20051212080518.25845.qmail@web30303.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v746.2) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Eric F Crist Date: Mon, 12 Dec 2005 05:31:21 -0600 To: Yance Kowara X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.746.2) X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.2 required=4.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,AWL,BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=3.1.0 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.0 (2005-09-13) on grog.secure-computing.net Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD router two DSL connections X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 12 Dec 2005 11:31:53 -0000 On Dec 12, 2005, at 2:05 AM, Yance Kowara wrote: > Ted, > > Thanks for the advice. > > A friend of mine has just acquired an Internet Cafe. > The previous owner connected the lan to 2 different > ADSL (two different ISPs) one is a back up he said. > > So, two ADSL routers with half the Lan connected to > one router and another half to the other router. > > I am just thingking of a way to optimise the > connection and came accross Steven's article. I > thought I could do something similar with *BSD + pf. > > There is such thing as Dual Wan ADSL router: > http://www.infosmart.com.tw/p-ndr3024.htm > > However, they are quite pricey compare to setting up a > *BSD box (using old readily available hardware). > > > So, if this load balancing idea does not work, any > other thing I can do to optimise two DSLs? > > I also came accross this (linux way): > http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/Adv-Routing-HOWTO/lartc.rpdb.multiple- > links.html > > Is this worth trying? > > Kind regards, Yance, The reason, without a pretty heavily involved configuration, this won't work is packet routing. Unless you're using BGP, Border Gateway Protocol, you're not going to reliably route return packets to any interface other than the interface it was transmitted from. I'm guessing that the dual-wan device you speak of handles some things differently. Something like a large file download is going to fail to utilize the full bandwidth, however, because of the nature of the traffic. If you really need to boost network bandwidth, you're going to be forced into either working directly with an ISP to link multiple DSL channels, or, more likely, obtain business-class service over a T1/T3 setup. HTH ----- Eric F Crist Secure Computing Networks http://www.secure-computing.net From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Dec 12 11:34:42 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 637C916A41F for ; Mon, 12 Dec 2005 11:34:42 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from glenn@antimatter.net) Received: from cobalt.antimatter.net (cobalt.antimatter.net [69.55.224.239]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C724343D53 for ; Mon, 12 Dec 2005 11:34:41 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from glenn@antimatter.net) Received: from glenn-mobile.antimatter.net (cpe-66-91-226-109.san.res.rr.com [66.91.226.109]) (authenticated bits=0) by cobalt.antimatter.net (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id jBCBYcph024206 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Mon, 12 Dec 2005 03:34:38 -0800 X-MailKey: purple frogs are falling from the sky Message-Id: <6.2.3.4.2.20051212032413.069dc480@cobalt.antimatter.net> X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 6.2.3.4 Date: Mon, 12 Dec 2005 03:29:54 -0800 To: Ashley Moran , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: Glenn Dawson In-Reply-To: <200512121055.47016.work@ashleymoran.me.uk> References: <200512121055.47016.work@ashleymoran.me.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Cc: Subject: Re: Disadvantages of running software through compat5x? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 12 Dec 2005 11:34:42 -0000 At 02:55 AM 12/12/2005, Ashley Moran wrote: >I have only one machine left running 5.4, but unfortunately it's a live web >and database server (tight budget!) so I don't like tinkering with it too >much. > >I was going to reinstall it with 6.0 and I just wondered if there was any >reason why you shouldn't run a production server on the compat5x port for any >length of time. I can't afford the downtime to remove all the ports and >re-install them. Unless there's something specific you need that 6.0 has and 5.4 doesn't, I'd say leave the machine the way it is. An upgrade like that on a production system is just inviting problems. -Glenn >Ashley >_______________________________________________ >freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list >http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions >To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Dec 12 11:36:09 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 86EF216A420 for ; Mon, 12 Dec 2005 11:36:09 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from mags@oniduo.pt) Received: from smtp.net4b.pt (relay-out17866.net4b.pt [195.245.178.66]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3533743D53 for ; Mon, 12 Dec 2005 11:36:07 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from mags@oniduo.pt) Received: (qmail 15613 invoked from network); 12 Dec 2005 11:36:00 +0000 Received: from unknown (HELO [192.168.1.75]) ([194.38.156.250]) (envelope-sender ) by smtp.net4b.pt (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for ; 12 Dec 2005 11:35:58 +0000 From: Miguel Saturnino To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="=-3ZmwF4sV6DdvIx3uUIS8" Date: Mon, 12 Dec 2005 11:35:50 +0000 Message-Id: <1134387350.788.21.camel@localhost> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.4.2 FreeBSD GNOME Team Port Subject: FreeBSD 6.0-RELEASE - panic: page fault X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 12 Dec 2005 11:36:09 -0000 --=-3ZmwF4sV6DdvIx3uUIS8 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi! My server reboots sporadically (once a day, maximum) and I hope someone can shed some light on why this is happening. I've upgraded to 6.0-RELEASE yesterday but the symptoms remain... Attached is the backtrace of the crash dump and the relevant portion of /var/log/messages. My custom kernel is the generic kernel plus support for quotas. Also, during last buildworld I got a "segmentation fault" (only thing I have in /etc/make.conf is "CFLAGS= -O -pipe" and "NO_PROFILE= true"). I then tried it again (in the exact same conditions), and it worked. Don't know if that might indicate bad RAM (the only memory test I'm able to run is memtest but it can only lock (to test) about 15% of the total system memory...). Thanks for your help. Regards, Miguel --=-3ZmwF4sV6DdvIx3uUIS8 Content-Disposition: attachment; filename=crash2b.txt Content-Type: text/plain; name=crash2b.txt; charset=ISO-8859-15 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit /var/log/messages: ================== Dec 12 01:32:48 tiger syslogd: kernel boot file is /boot/kernel/kernel Dec 12 01:32:48 tiger kernel: Copyright (c) 1992-2005 The FreeBSD Project. Dec 12 01:32:48 tiger kernel: Copyright (c) 1979, 1980, 1983, 1986, 1988, 1989, 1991, 1992, 1993, 1994 Dec 12 01:32:48 tiger kernel: The Regents of the University of California. All rights reserved. Dec 12 01:32:48 tiger kernel: FreeBSD 6.0-RELEASE #0: Sun Dec 11 14:52:49 WET 2005 Dec 12 01:32:48 tiger kernel: root@tiger.example.net:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/MYKERNEL Dec 12 01:32:48 tiger kernel: ACPI APIC Table: Dec 12 01:32:48 tiger kernel: Timecounter "i8254" frequency 1193182 Hz quality 0 Dec 12 01:32:48 tiger kernel: CPU: Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 CPU 2.40GHz (2393.19-MHz 686-class CPU) Dec 12 01:32:48 tiger kernel: Origin = "GenuineIntel" Id = 0xf33 Stepping = 3 Dec 12 01:32:48 tiger kernel: Features=0xbfebfbff Dec 12 01:32:48 tiger kernel: Features2=0x41d Dec 12 01:32:48 tiger kernel: real memory = 535756800 (510 MB) Dec 12 01:32:48 tiger kernel: avail memory = 514928640 (491 MB) Dec 12 01:32:48 tiger kernel: ioapic0 irqs 0-23 on motherboard Dec 12 01:32:48 tiger kernel: npx0: [FAST] Dec 12 01:32:48 tiger kernel: npx0: on motherboard Dec 12 01:32:48 tiger kernel: npx0: INT 16 interface Dec 12 01:32:48 tiger kernel: acpi0: on motherboard Dec 12 01:32:48 tiger kernel: acpi0: Power Button (fixed) Dec 12 01:32:48 tiger kernel: pci_link0: irq 7 on acpi0 Dec 12 01:32:48 tiger kernel: pci_link1: irq 3 on acpi0 Dec 12 01:32:48 tiger kernel: pci_link2: irq 11 on acpi0 Dec 12 01:32:48 tiger kernel: pci_link3: irq 10 on acpi0 Dec 12 01:32:48 tiger kernel: pci_link4: irq 0 on acpi0 Dec 12 01:32:48 tiger kernel: pci_link5: irq 0 on acpi0 Dec 12 01:32:48 tiger kernel: pci_link6: irq 0 on acpi0 Dec 12 01:32:48 tiger kernel: pci_link7: irq 5 on acpi0 Dec 12 01:32:48 tiger kernel: Timecounter "ACPI-fast" frequency 3579545 Hz quality 1000 Dec 12 01:32:48 tiger kernel: acpi_timer0: <24-bit timer at 3.579545MHz> port 0x408-0x40b on acpi0 Dec 12 01:32:48 tiger kernel: cpu0: on acpi0 Dec 12 01:32:48 tiger kernel: acpi_button0: on acpi0 Dec 12 01:32:48 tiger kernel: acpi_button1: on acpi0 Dec 12 01:32:48 tiger kernel: pcib0: port 0xcf8-0xcff on acpi0 Dec 12 01:32:48 tiger kernel: pci0: on pcib0 Dec 12 01:32:48 tiger kernel: agp0: port 0xb000-0xb007 mem 0xf0000000-0xf7ffffff,0xf8100000-0xf817ffff irq 16 at device 2.0 on pci0 Dec 12 01:32:48 tiger kernel: agp0: detected 892k stolen memory Dec 12 01:32:48 tiger kernel: agp0: aperture size is 128M Dec 12 01:32:48 tiger kernel: uhci0: port 0xa000-0xa01f irq 16 at device 29.0 on pci0 Dec 12 01:32:48 tiger kernel: uhci0: [GIANT-LOCKED] Dec 12 01:32:48 tiger kernel: usb0: on uhci0 Dec 12 01:32:48 tiger kernel: usb0: USB revision 1.0 Dec 12 01:32:48 tiger kernel: uhub0: Intel UHCI root hub, class 9/0, rev 1.00/1.00, addr 1 Dec 12 01:32:48 tiger kernel: uhub0: 2 ports with 2 removable, self powered Dec 12 01:32:48 tiger kernel: uhci1: port 0xa400-0xa41f irq 19 at device 29.1 on pci0 Dec 12 01:32:48 tiger kernel: uhci1: [GIANT-LOCKED] Dec 12 01:32:48 tiger kernel: usb1: on uhci1 Dec 12 01:32:48 tiger kernel: usb1: USB revision 1.0 Dec 12 01:32:48 tiger kernel: uhub1: Intel UHCI root hub, class 9/0, rev 1.00/ Dec 12 01:32:48 tiger kernel: uhub0: Intel UHCI root hub, class 9/0, rev 1.00/1.00, addr 1 Dec 12 01:32:48 tiger kernel: uhub0: 2 ports with 2 removable, self powered Dec 12 01:32:48 tiger kernel: uhci1: port 0xa400-0xa41f irq 19 at device 29.1 on pci0 Dec 12 01:32:48 tiger kernel: uhci1: [GIANT-LOCKED] Dec 12 01:32:48 tiger kernel: usb1: on uhci1 Dec 12 01:32:48 tiger kernel: usb1: USB revision 1.0 Dec 12 01:32:48 tiger kernel: uhub1: Intel UHCI root hub, class 9/0, rev 1.00/1.00, addr 1 Dec 12 01:32:48 tiger kernel: uhub1: 2 ports with 2 removable, self powered Dec 12 01:32:48 tiger kernel: uhci2: port 0xa800-0xa81f irq 18 at device 29.2 on pci0 Dec 12 01:32:48 tiger kernel: uhci2: [GIANT-LOCKED] Dec 12 01:32:48 tiger kernel: usb2: on uhci2 Dec 12 01:32:48 tiger kernel: usb2: USB revision 1.0 Dec 12 01:32:48 tiger kernel: uhub2: Intel UHCI root hub, class 9/0, rev 1.00/1.00, addr 1 Dec 12 01:32:48 tiger kernel: uhub2: 2 ports with 2 removable, self powered Dec 12 01:32:48 tiger kernel: uhci3: port 0xac00-0xac1f irq 16 at device 29.3 on pci0 Dec 12 01:32:48 tiger kernel: uhci3: [GIANT-LOCKED] Dec 12 01:32:48 tiger kernel: usb3: on uhci3 Dec 12 01:32:48 tiger kernel: usb3: USB revision 1.0 Dec 12 01:32:48 tiger kernel: uhub3: Intel UHCI root hub, class 9/0, rev 1.00/1.00, addr 1 Dec 12 01:32:48 tiger kernel: uhub3: 2 ports with 2 removable, self powered Dec 12 01:32:48 tiger kernel: ehci0: mem 0xf8180000-0xf81803ff irq 23 at device 29.7 on pci0 Dec 12 01:32:48 tiger kernel: ehci0: [GIANT-LOCKED] Dec 12 01:32:48 tiger kernel: usb4: EHCI version 1.0 Dec 12 01:32:48 tiger kernel: usb4: companion controllers, 2 ports each: usb0 usb1 usb2 usb3 Dec 12 01:32:48 tiger kernel: usb4: on ehci0 Dec 12 01:32:48 tiger kernel: usb4: USB revision 2.0 Dec 12 01:32:48 tiger kernel: uhub4: Intel EHCI root hub, class 9/0, rev 2.00/1.00, addr 1 Dec 12 01:32:48 tiger kernel: uhub4: 8 ports with 8 removable, self powered Dec 12 01:32:48 tiger kernel: pcib1: at device 30.0 on pci0 Dec 12 01:32:48 tiger kernel: pci1: on pcib1 Dec 12 01:32:48 tiger kernel: rl0: port 0x9000-0x90ff mem 0xf8000000-0xf80000ff irq 23 at device 3.0 on pci1 Dec 12 01:32:48 tiger kernel: miibus0: on rl0 Dec 12 01:32:48 tiger kernel: rlphy0: on miibus0 Dec 12 01:32:48 tiger kernel: rlphy0: 10baseT, 10baseT-FDX, 100baseTX, 100baseTX-FDX, auto Dec 12 01:32:48 tiger kernel: rl0: Ethernet address: 00:01:6c:28:f9:c0 Dec 12 01:32:48 tiger kernel: isab0: at device 31.0 on pci0 Dec 12 01:32:48 tiger kernel: isa0: on isab0 Dec 12 01:32:48 tiger kernel: atapci0: port 0x1f0-0x1f7,0x3f6,0x170-0x177,0x376,0xf000-0xf00f at device 31.1 on pci0 Dec 12 01:32:48 tiger kernel: ata0: on atapci0 Dec 12 01:32:48 tiger kernel: ata1: on atapci0 Dec 12 01:32:48 tiger kernel: pci0: at device 31.3 (no driver attached) Dec 12 01:32:48 tiger kernel: acpi_tz0: on acpi0 Dec 12 01:32:48 tiger kernel: fdc0: port 0x3f0-0x3f5,0x3f7 irq 6 drq 2 on acpi0 Dec 12 01:32:48 tiger kernel: fdc0: [FAST] Dec 12 01:32:48 tiger kernel: pmtimer0 on isa0 Dec 12 01:32:48 tiger kernel: orm0: at iomem 0xd4000-0xd4fff on isa0 Dec 12 01:32:48 tiger kernel: atkbdc0: at port 0x60,0x64 on isa0 Dec 12 01:32:48 tiger kernel: atkbd0: irq 1 on atkbdc0 Dec 12 01:32:48 tiger kernel: kbd0 at atkbd0 Dec 12 01:32:48 tiger kernel: atkbd0: [GIANT-LOCKED] Dec 12 01:32:48 tiger kernel: ppc0: parallel port not found. Dec 12 01:32:48 tiger kernel: sc0: at flags 0x100 on isa0 Dec 12 01:32:48 tiger kernel: sc0: VGA <16 virtual consoles, flags=0x300> Dec 12 01:32:48 tiger kernel: sio0: configured irq 4 not in bitmap of probed irqs 0 Dec 12 01:32:48 tiger kernel: sio0: port may not be enabled Dec 12 01:32:48 tiger kernel: sio0 at port 0x3f8-0x3ff irq 4 flags 0x10 on isa0 Dec 12 01:32:48 tiger kernel: sio0: type 8250 or not responding Dec 12 01:32:48 tiger kernel: sio1: configured irq 3 not in bitmap of probed irqs 0 Dec 12 01:32:48 tiger kernel: sio1: port may not be enabled Dec 12 01:32:48 tiger kernel: vga0: at port 0x3c0-0x3df iomem 0xa0000-0xbffff on isa0 Dec 12 01:32:48 tiger kernel: Timecounter "TSC" frequency 2393193168 Hz quality 800 Dec 12 01:32:48 tiger kernel: Timecounters tick every 1.000 msec Dec 12 01:32:48 tiger kernel: ad0: 76319MB at ata0-master UDMA100 Dec 12 01:32:48 tiger kernel: Trying to mount root from ufs:/dev/ad0s1a Dec 12 01:32:48 tiger kernel: WARNING: / was not properly dismounted Dec 12 01:32:48 tiger kernel: WARNING: /tmp was not properly dismounted Dec 12 01:32:48 tiger kernel: WARNING: /usr was not properly dismounted Dec 12 01:32:48 tiger kernel: WARNING: /var was not properly dismounted Dec 12 01:32:48 tiger kernel: WARNING: /home was not properly dismounted Dec 12 01:32:48 tiger savecore: reboot after panic: page fault Dec 12 01:32:48 tiger savecore: writing core to vmcore.2 Dec 12 01:32:49 tiger kernel: rl0: link state changed to UP Dec 12 01:33:53 tiger ntpd[414]: ntpd 4.2.0-a Sun Dec 11 13:24:06 WET 2005 (1) Dec 12 01:34:00 tiger named[569]: starting BIND 9.3.1 Dec 12 01:34:01 tiger proftpd[593]: tiger.example.net - ProFTPD 1.2.9 (stable) (built Mon Jan 19 16:05:43 MST 2004) standalone mode STARTUP Dec 12 01:34:02 tiger named[569]: command channel listening on 127.0.0.1#953 Dec 12 01:34:02 tiger named[569]: command channel listening on ::1#953 Dec 12 01:34:07 tiger named[569]: running Dec 12 01:35:09 tiger fsck: /dev/ad0s1d: 958 files, 1000 used, 1015303 free (47 frags, 126907 blocks, 0.0% fragmentation) Dec 12 01:37:13 tiger fsck: /dev/ad0s1e: UNREF FILE I=361249 OWNER=root MODE=100755 Dec 12 01:37:13 tiger fsck: /dev/ad0s1e: SIZE=10084 MTIME=Jul 1 19:06 2005 (CLEARED) Dec 12 01:37:13 tiger fsck: /dev/ad0s1e: UNREF FILE I=558720 OWNER=root MODE=100555 Dec 12 01:37:13 tiger fsck: /dev/ad0s1e: SIZE=37925 MTIME=Nov 29 18:06 2005 (CLEARED) Dec 12 01:37:13 tiger fsck: /dev/ad0s1e: UNREF FILE I=569647 OWNER=root MODE=100555 Dec 12 01:37:13 tiger fsck: /dev/ad0s1e: SIZE=9535 MTIME=Jul 1 19:06 2005 (CLEARED) Dec 12 01:37:13 tiger fsck: /dev/ad0s1e: UNREF FILE I=569651 OWNER=root MODE=100555 Dec 12 01:37:13 tiger fsck: /dev/ad0s1e: SIZE=43386 MTIME=Jul 1 19:06 2005 (CLEARED) Dec 12 01:37:13 tiger fsck: /dev/ad0s1e: UNREF FILE I=569699 OWNER=root MODE=100555 Dec 12 01:37:13 tiger fsck: /dev/ad0s1e: SIZE=18628 MTIME=Jul 1 19:06 2005 (CLEARED) Dec 12 01:37:13 tiger fsck: /dev/ad0s1e: UNREF FILE I=569716 OWNER=root MODE=100555 Dec 12 01:37:13 tiger fsck: /dev/ad0s1e: SIZE=17399 MTIME=Jul 1 19:06 2005 (CLEARED) Dec 12 01:37:13 tiger fsck: /dev/ad0s1e: UNREF FILE I=569724 OWNER=root MODE=100555 Dec 12 01:37:13 tiger fsck: /dev/ad0s1e: SIZE=20991 MTIME=Jul 1 19:06 2005 (CLEARED) Dec 12 01:37:13 tiger fsck: /dev/ad0s1e: UNREF FILE I=569728 OWNER=root MODE=100555 Dec 12 01:37:13 tiger fsck: /dev/ad0s1e: SIZE=12499 MTIME=Jul 1 19:06 2005 (CLEARED) Dec 12 01:37:13 tiger fsck: /dev/ad0s1e: UNREF FILE I=569895 OWNER=root MODE=100555 Dec 12 01:37:13 tiger fsck: /dev/ad0s1e: SIZE=112174 MTIME=Jul 1 19:06 2005 (CLEARED) Dec 12 01:37:13 tiger fsck: /dev/ad0s1e: UNREF FILE I=569920 OWNER=root MODE=100555 Dec 12 01:37:13 tiger fsck: /dev/ad0s1e: SIZE=27839 MTIME=Jul 1 19:06 2005 (CLEARED) Dec 12 01:37:13 tiger fsck: /dev/ad0s1e: UNREF FILE I=569950 OWNER=root MODE=100555 Dec 12 01:37:13 tiger fsck: /dev/ad0s1e: SIZE=7113 MTIME=Jul 1 19:06 2005 (CLEARED) Dec 12 01:37:13 tiger fsck: /dev/ad0s1e: UNREF FILE I=569953 OWNER=root MODE=100555 Dec 12 01:37:13 tiger fsck: /dev/ad0s1e: SIZE=14697 MTIME=Jul 1 19:06 2005 (CLEARED) Dec 12 01:37:13 tiger fsck: /dev/ad0s1e: UNREF FILE I=569957 OWNER=root MODE=100555 Dec 12 01:37:13 tiger fsck: /dev/ad0s1e: SIZE=17159 MTIME=Jul 1 19:06 2005 (CLEARED) Dec 12 01:37:13 tiger fsck: /dev/ad0s1e: UNREF FILE I=570125 OWNER=root MODE=100555 Dec 12 01:37:13 tiger fsck: /dev/ad0s1e: SIZE=1175664 MTIME=Jul 1 19:06 2005 (CLEARED) Dec 12 01:37:13 tiger fsck: /dev/ad0s1e: UNREF FILE I=624923 OWNER=root MODE=100666 Dec 12 01:37:13 tiger fsck: /dev/ad0s1e: SIZE=35721 MTIME=Jul 2 12:00 2005 (CLEARED) Dec 12 01:37:13 tiger fsck: /dev/ad0s1e: Reclaimed: 0 directories, 15 files, 0 fragments Dec 12 01:37:13 tiger fsck: /dev/ad0s1e: 255349 files, 3028724 used, 7134544 free (37224 frags, 887165 blocks, 0.4% fragmentation) Dec 12 01:37:41 tiger fsck: /dev/ad0s1f: UNREF FILE I=1033769 OWNER=root MODE=100644 Dec 12 01:37:41 tiger fsck: /dev/ad0s1f: SIZE=0 MTIME=Dec 12 00:41 2005 (CLEARED) Dec 12 01:37:41 tiger fsck: /dev/ad0s1f: UNREF FILE I=1992279 OWNER=mysql MODE=100600 Dec 12 01:37:41 tiger fsck: /dev/ad0s1f: SIZE=0 MTIME=Dec 11 15:45 2005 (CLEARED) Dec 12 01:37:41 tiger fsck: /dev/ad0s1f: UNREF FILE I=1992280 OWNER=mysql MODE=100600 Dec 12 01:37:41 tiger fsck: /dev/ad0s1f: SIZE=0 MTIME=Dec 11 15:45 2005 (CLEARED) Dec 12 01:37:41 tiger fsck: /dev/ad0s1f: UNREF FILE I=1992281 OWNER=mysql MODE=100600 Dec 12 01:37:41 tiger fsck: /dev/ad0s1f: SIZE=0 MTIME=Dec 11 15:45 2005 (CLEARED) Dec 12 01:37:41 tiger fsck: /dev/ad0s1f: Reclaimed: 0 directories, 4 files, 1 fragments Dec 12 01:37:41 tiger fsck: /dev/ad0s1f: 23098 files, 1748420 used, 6382856 free (5800 frags, 797132 blocks, 0.1% fragmentation) Dec 12 01:38:12 tiger ntpd[414]: kernel time sync disabled 2041 Dec 12 01:42:30 tiger fsck: /dev/ad0s1g: 81824 files, 5773539 used, 46596539 free (42643 frags, 5819237 blocks, 0.1% fragmentation) Dec 12 01:45:41 tiger ntpd[414]: kernel time sync enabled 2001 root@tiger# kgdb kernel.debug /var/crash/vmcore.2 [GDB will not be able to debug user-mode threads: /usr/lib/libthread_db.so: Undefined symbol "ps_pglobal_lookup"] GNU gdb 6.1.1 [FreeBSD] Copyright 2004 Free Software Foundation, Inc. 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Unread portion of the kernel message buffer: kernel trap 12 with interrupts disabled Fatal trap 12: page fault while in kernel mode fault virtual address = 0x160001 fault code = supervisor write, page not present instruction pointer = 0x20:0xc07ad714 stack pointer = 0x28:0xde935bd0 frame pointer = 0x28:0xde935bd4 code segment = base 0x0, limit 0xfffff, type 0x1b = DPL 0, pres 1, def32 1, gran 1 processor eflags = resume, IOPL = 0 current process = 81539 (php5-fcgi) trap number = 12 panic: page fault Uptime: 9h44m42s Dumping 510 MB (2 chunks) chunk 0: 1MB (159 pages) ... ok chunk 1: 510MB (130544 pages) 494 478 462 446 430 414 398 382 366 350 334 318 302 286 270 254 238 222 206 190 174 158 142 126 110 94 78 62 46 30 14 #0 doadump () at pcpu.h:165 165 pcpu.h: No such file or directory. in pcpu.h (kgdb) where #0 doadump () at pcpu.h:165 #1 0xc0638202 in boot (howto=260) at /usr/src/sys/kern/kern_shutdown.c:399 #2 0xc0638498 in panic (fmt=0xc084ece2 "%s") at /usr/src/sys/kern/kern_shutdown.c:555 #3 0xc0808370 in trap_fatal (frame=0xde935b90, eva=1441793) at /usr/src/sys/i386/i386/trap.c:831 #4 0xc0807b12 in trap (frame= {tf_fs = -560791544, tf_es = -1065746392, tf_ds = 40, tf_edi = 0, tf_esi = 0, tf_ebp = -560768044, tf_isp = -560768068, tf_ebx = -1063763744, tf_edx = -1051924556, tf_ecx = -1051924556, tf_eax = 1441793, tf_trapno = 12, tf_err = 2, tf_eip = -1065691372, tf_cs = 32, tf_eflags = 65606, tf_esp = -1051924556, tf_ss = -560768020}) at /usr/src/sys/i386/i386/trap.c:267 #5 0xc07f750a in calltrap () at /usr/src/sys/i386/i386/exception.s:139 #6 0xc07ad714 in vm_pageq_remove_nowakeup (m=0xc14ce7b4) at /usr/src/sys/vm/vm_pageq.c:168 #7 0xc07aa2e3 in vm_page_alloc (object=0xc3d8239c, pindex=315, req=64) at /usr/src/sys/vm/vm_page.c:840 #8 0xc079e0be in vm_fault (map=0xc20dc834, vaddr=141430784, fault_type=2 '\002', fault_flags=8) at /usr/src/sys/vm/vm_fault.c:450 #9 0xc080800b in trap_pfault (frame=0xde935d38, usermode=1, eva=141430784) at /usr/src/sys/i386/i386/trap.c:719 #10 0xc0807c07 in trap (frame= {tf_fs = -1065418693, tf_es = 59, tf_ds = 59, tf_edi = 141430784, tf_esi = 4796, tf_ebp = -1077952776, tf_isp = -560767644, tf_ebx = 76, tf_edx = 0, tf_ecx = 10, tf_eax = 0, tf_trapno = 12, tf_err = 6, tf_eip = 680199931, tf_cs = 51, tf_eflags = 66050, tf_esp = -1077952816, tf_ss = 59}) at /usr/src/sys/i386/i386/trap.c:331 #11 0xc07f750a in calltrap () at /usr/src/sys/i386/i386/exception.s:139 #12 0x288b06fb in ?? () Previous frame inner to this frame (corrupt stack?) (kgdb) bt full #0 doadump () at pcpu.h:165 No locals. #1 0xc0638202 in boot (howto=260) at /usr/src/sys/kern/kern_shutdown.c:399 first_buf_printf = 1 #2 0xc0638498 in panic (fmt=0xc084ece2 "%s") at /usr/src/sys/kern/kern_shutdown.c:555 td = (struct thread *) 0xc1d3b000 bootopt = 260 newpanic = 0 ap = 0xc1d3b000 "$\006\uffff\uffff`\uffff\uffff\uffff" buf = "page fault", '\0' #3 0xc0808370 in trap_fatal (frame=0xde935b90, eva=1441793) at /usr/src/sys/i386/i386/trap.c:831 code = 40 type = 12 ss = 40 esp = 0 softseg = {ssd_base = 0, ssd_limit = 1048575, ssd_type = 27, ssd_dpl = 0, ssd_p = 1, ssd_xx = 0, ssd_xx1 = 0, ssd_def32 = 1, ssd_gran = 1} #4 0xc0807b12 in trap (frame= {tf_fs = -560791544, tf_es = -1065746392, tf_ds = 40, tf_edi = 0, tf_esi = 0, tf_ebp = -560768044, tf_isp = -560768068, tf_ebx = -1063763744, tf_edx = -1051924556, tf_ecx = -1051924556, tf_eax = 1441793, tf_trapno = 12, tf_err = 2, tf _eip = -1065691372, tf_cs = 32, tf_eflags = 65606, tf_esp = -1051924556, tf_ss = -560768020}) at /usr/src/sys/i386/i386/trap.c:267 td = (struct thread *) 0xc1d3b000 p = (struct proc *) 0xc1d40624 sticks = 3238319560 i = 0 ucode = 0 type = 12 code = 2 eva = 1441793 #5 0xc07f750a in calltrap () at /usr/src/sys/i386/i386/exception.s:139 No locals. #6 0xc07ad714 in vm_pageq_remove_nowakeup (m=0xc14ce7b4) at /usr/src/sys/vm/vm_pageq.c:168 queue = 1441793 pq = (struct vpgqueues *) 0xc09840e0 #7 0xc07aa2e3 in vm_page_alloc (object=0xc3d8239c, pindex=315, req=64) at /usr/src/sys/vm/vm_page.c:840 m = 0xc14ce7b4 color = 0 flags = 1441793 page_req = 0 #8 0xc079e0be in vm_fault (map=0xc20dc834, vaddr=141430784, fault_type=2 '\002', fault_flags=8) at /usr/src/sys/vm/vm_fault.c:450 rv = 0 reqpage = -1043040394 ahead = 2 behind = 10 behavior = 180 '´' prot = 7 '\a' is_first_object_locked = -560767916 result = 0 growstack = 1 wired = 0 map_generation = 42 next_object = 0x0 marray = {0x48904bf7, 0x7ffc53eb, 0x369e99, 0x0, 0x0, 0xde935d00, 0xc0640e5d, 0x48904bf7, 0x7ffc53eb, 0x369e99, 0x0, 0x3d5b4f0, 0x4163fa, 0xbac4eeec, 0x8f1be3a1, 0xffffff92} hardfault = 0 faultcount = 2 fs = {m = 0x0, object = 0xc3d8239c, pindex = 315, first_m = 0x0, first_object = 0xc3d8239c, first_pindex = 315, map = 0xc20dc834, entry = 0xc3e722ec, lookup_still_valid = 1, vp = 0x0} #9 0xc080800b in trap_pfault (frame=0xde935d38, usermode=1, eva=141430784) at /usr/src/sys/i386/i386/trap.c:719 va = 141430784 vm = (struct vmspace *) 0x160001 map = 0xc20dc834 rv = 2 ftype = 2 '\002' td = (struct thread *) 0xc1d3b000 p = (struct proc *) 0xc1d40624 #10 0xc0807c07 in trap (frame= {tf_fs = -1065418693, tf_es = 59, tf_ds = 59, tf_edi = 141430784, tf_esi = 4796, tf_ebp = -1077952776, tf_isp = -560767644, tf_ebx = 76, tf_edx = 0, tf_ecx = 10, tf_eax = 0, tf_trapno = 12, tf_err = 6, tf_eip = 680199931, tf_cs = 51, tf_eflags = 66050, tf_esp = -1077952816, tf_ss = 59}) at /usr/src/sys/i386/i386/trap.c:331 td = (struct thread *) 0xc1d3b000 p = (struct proc *) 0xc1d40624 sticks = 1 i = 0 ucode = 0 type = 12 code = 6 eva = 141430784 #11 0xc07f750a in calltrap () at /usr/src/sys/i386/i386/exception.s:139 No locals. #12 0x288b06fb in ?? () No symbol table info available. Previous frame inner to this frame (corrupt stack?) (kgdb) quit --=-3ZmwF4sV6DdvIx3uUIS8-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Dec 12 11:48:36 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EB78B16A41F for ; Mon, 12 Dec 2005 11:48:35 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from uros.gruber@sir-mag.com) Received: from strippy.vizija.si (strippy.vizija.si [217.72.81.150]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7D81543D45 for ; Mon, 12 Dec 2005 11:48:34 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from uros.gruber@sir-mag.com) Received: from cartman.dev (BSN-95-243-216.dsl.siol.net [193.95.243.216]) by strippy.vizija.si (Postfix) with ESMTP id E3EE6A6CC7 for ; Mon, 12 Dec 2005 12:48:41 +0100 (CET) Received: from cartman.dev (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by cartman.dev (Postfix) with ESMTP id EB8BBD4C2D for ; Mon, 12 Dec 2005 12:51:38 +0100 (CET) Received: from [10.0.2.1] (uros [10.0.2.1]) by cartman.dev (Postfix) with ESMTP id CFD49D4C0E for ; Mon, 12 Dec 2005 12:51:38 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <439D638F.1040100@sir-mag.com> Date: Mon, 12 Dec 2005 12:48:31 +0100 From: =?UTF-8?B?VXJvxaEgR3J1YmVy?= User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5 (Windows/20051025) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV using ClamSMTP X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at vizija.si Subject: missing status with portmanager X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 12 Dec 2005 11:48:36 -0000 Hi! I'm trying to update libtool with portmanager but I get missing status. Also there is a lot of ports with missing status. How can I solve this. If I manualy upgrade libtool it works but portmanager failed to upgrade (3 times). regards Uros From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Dec 12 12:10:56 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 81DF716A41F for ; Mon, 12 Dec 2005 12:10:56 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from PETER.HARRISON@dwp.gsi.gov.uk) Received: from mail39.messagelabs.com (mail39.messagelabs.com [193.109.254.243]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 9711443D90 for ; Mon, 12 Dec 2005 12:10:43 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from PETER.HARRISON@dwp.gsi.gov.uk) X-VirusChecked: Checked X-Env-Sender: PETER.HARRISON@dwp.gsi.gov.uk X-Msg-Ref: server-4.tower-39.messagelabs.com!1134389440!14249187!1 X-StarScan-Version: 5.5.9.1; banners=dwp.gsi.gov.uk,-,- X-Originating-IP: [195.92.40.48] Received: (qmail 3735 invoked from network); 12 Dec 2005 12:10:40 -0000 Received: from gateway-201.energis.gsi.gov.uk (HELO mx.hosting-e.gsi.gov.uk) (195.92.40.48) by server-4.tower-39.messagelabs.com with SMTP; 12 Dec 2005 12:10:40 -0000 content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.0.6603.0 Date: Mon, 12 Dec 2005 12:09:37 -0000 Message-ID: <0740B9A6C3639441850D84E94767945C5B3B62@DMM00038.link2.gpn.gov.uk> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: RE: FreeBSD starter machine... CHKD Thread-Index: AcX/FJeTy+0Stjb8RNOBkEapp7C0nQAAEccQ From: "Harrison Peter CSA BIRKENHEAD" Cc: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 12 Dec 2005 12:09:36.0374 (UTC) FILETIME=[EB66D160:01C5FF14] Subject: FW: RE: FreeBSD starter machine... X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 12 Dec 2005 12:10:56 -0000 >Message:=2016 >Date:=20Sun,=2011=20Dec=202005=2020:07:44=20-0800=20(PST) >From:=20"Matt=20S.=20Gann"=20 >Subject:=20FreeBSD=20starter=20machine >To:=20freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org >Message-ID:=20<20051212040744.66038.qmail@web54201.mail.yahoo.com> >Content-Type:=20text/plain;=20charset=3Diso-8859-1. > >=20=20I=20have=20a=20few=20questions=20about=20FreeBSD.=20=20I=20am=20jus= t=20beginning=20to=20get=20into=20UNIX.=20=20I=20know=20a=20=20>few=20line= =20commands,=20but=20really=20want=20to=20get=20familiar=20and=20comfortab= le=20with=20the=20OS.=20=20I=20have >been=20intrugued=20by=20FreeBSD=20for=20many=20years=20now,=20but=20I=20o= wn=20a=20windows-based=20PC=20and=20am=20not=20keen=20>about=20running=20d= ual=20OS's.=20=20I=20would=20like=20to=20get=20a=20cheap,=20used,=20small=20= desktop=20or=20laptop=20to=20>"tinker"=20with=20Unix/Linix=20and=20FreeBSD= .=20=20However,=20I=20know=20little=20to=20nothing=20about=20system=20 >requirements=20and/or=20hardware=20compability.=20=20I=20was=20thinking=20= of=20an=20old=20486=20or=20Pentium=201=20to=20 >get=20started.=20=20Any=20thoughts=20on=20what=20I=20could=20start=20with= ? =20=20=20 >=20=20Sincerely, >=20=20Matt=20S.=20Gann In=20the=20past=20I've=20run=204.6=20on=20a=20P1=20133mhz=20with=2064MB=20= RAM=20and=20a=203GB=20disk.=20More=20recently=20I=20was=20running=205.3=20= on=20a=20Thinkpad=20600e=20PII=20333mhz=20with=20160MB=20RAM=20and=202GB=20= slice=20within=20the=20disk=20(until=20the=20hardware=20died).=20Although=20= the=20OS=20ran=20fine=20on=20both=20of=20these=20there=20are=20limitations= .=20You'd=20probably=20need=20to=20steer=20clear=20of=20the=20more=20'newb= ie'=20friendly=20window=20managers=20such=20as=20Gnome=20or=20KDE=20(both=20= the=20above=20ran=20Fluxbox=20handily=20to=20save=20on=20both=20speed=20an= d=20diskspace),=20and=20that=20may=20effect=20the=20required=20learning=20= curve. 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On=20leaving=20the=20GSi=20this=20email=20was=20certified=20virus-free From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Dec 12 12:14:39 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3DC8316A41F for ; Mon, 12 Dec 2005 12:14:39 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from sveinhal@gmail.com) Received: from xproxy.gmail.com (xproxy.gmail.com [66.249.82.202]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B9A0E43D5D for ; Mon, 12 Dec 2005 12:14:38 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from sveinhal@gmail.com) Received: by xproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id s11so1214253wxc for ; Mon, 12 Dec 2005 04:14:38 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:sender:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=fsZuHorjw0Du7anxicqEpObL29B4CVosbYI3K/vMBdyeY9+NBOUNhUXjPRZtFWGDKzxOrA8Gf9TGZ3+Sek/eZdgt1j8dzn0P5T5VpbPwivBOIBoL7LEKiNM9dMc5CHYqkinUfAep8idwT20oO6DasSwUKvaf3qdLwtBFjZ7S9Tw= Received: by 10.70.59.17 with SMTP id h17mr8050294wxa; Mon, 12 Dec 2005 04:14:37 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.70.105.11 with HTTP; Mon, 12 Dec 2005 04:14:37 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: Date: Mon, 12 Dec 2005 13:14:37 +0100 From: Svein Halvor Halvorsen Sender: sveinhal@gmail.com To: Harrison Peter CSA BIRKENHEAD In-Reply-To: <0740B9A6C3639441850D84E94767945C5B3B62@DMM00038.link2.gpn.gov.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline References: <0740B9A6C3639441850D84E94767945C5B3B62@DMM00038.link2.gpn.gov.uk> Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FW: RE: FreeBSD starter machine... X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 12 Dec 2005 12:14:39 -0000 > In the past I've run 4.6 on a P1 133mhz with 64MB RAM and a 3GB disk. Mor= e recently I was running 5.3 on a Thinkpad 600e PII 333mhz with 160MB RAM a= nd 2GB slice within the disk (until the hardware died). Although the OS ran= fine on both of these there are limitations. You'd probably need to steer = clear of the more 'newbie' friendly window managers such as Gnome or KDE (b= oth the above ran Fluxbox handily to save on both speed and diskspace), and= that may effect the required learning curve. I'm running 4.8 on a 486dx2 50MHz with 32MB RAM and 20GB disk. It's slow as h***, but it works. It's running fluxbox, but most of the time, I don't use X11 at all. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Dec 12 12:32:32 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EE27516A41F for ; Mon, 12 Dec 2005 12:32:32 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from yance_kowara@yahoo.com) Received: from web30301.mail.mud.yahoo.com (web30301.mail.mud.yahoo.com [68.142.200.94]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id CEA0943D69 for ; Mon, 12 Dec 2005 12:32:31 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from yance_kowara@yahoo.com) Received: (qmail 7350 invoked by uid 60001); 12 Dec 2005 12:32:30 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=OuGDaw91BGI4VbD9hJG7EzeyOTnZbdEGZBrb9j9W9B86trLSYaeatbuuQCGtrviX6QDzz1Ws4eM7an6h+JaH594DXgYkHZLQx/g8GHtczJfG/DErPGC69VKUlIKaa5E6xPLEI254Dj/5kSqvI/++GVBBXkk8phUHAsdFb19Hyw4= ; Message-ID: <20051212123230.7348.qmail@web30301.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Received: from [220.233.22.150] by web30301.mail.mud.yahoo.com via HTTP; Mon, 12 Dec 2005 04:32:30 PST Date: Mon, 12 Dec 2005 04:32:30 -0800 (PST) From: Yance Kowara To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Subject: Re: FreeBSD router two DSL connections X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 12 Dec 2005 12:32:33 -0000 --- Eric F Crist wrote: > On Dec 12, 2005, at 2:05 AM, Yance Kowara wrote: > > > Ted, > > > > Thanks for the advice. > > > > A friend of mine has just acquired an Internet > Cafe. > > The previous owner connected the lan to 2 > different > > ADSL (two different ISPs) one is a back up he > said. > > > > So, two ADSL routers with half the Lan connected > to > > one router and another half to the other router. > > > > I am just thingking of a way to optimise the > > connection and came accross Steven's article. I > > thought I could do something similar with *BSD + > pf. > > > > There is such thing as Dual Wan ADSL router: > > http://www.infosmart.com.tw/p-ndr3024.htm > > > > However, they are quite pricey compare to setting > up a > > *BSD box (using old readily available hardware). > > > > > > So, if this load balancing idea does not work, any > > other thing I can do to optimise two DSLs? > > > > I also came accross this (linux way): > > > http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/Adv-Routing-HOWTO/lartc.rpdb.multiple- > > > links.html > > > > Is this worth trying? > > > > Kind regards, > > Yance, > > The reason, without a pretty heavily involved > configuration, this > won't work is packet routing. Unless you're using > BGP, Border > Gateway Protocol, you're not going to reliably route > return packets > to any interface other than the interface it was > transmitted from. > I'm guessing that the dual-wan device you speak of > handles some > things differently. Something like a large file > download is going to > fail to utilize the full bandwidth, however, because > of the nature of > the traffic. If you really need to boost network > bandwidth, you're > going to be forced into either working directly with > an ISP to link > multiple DSL channels, or, more likely, obtain > business-class service > over a T1/T3 setup. > > HTH > ----- > Eric F Crist > Secure Computing Networks > http://www.secure-computing.net > > > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > Hmmmmmm, what about putting zebra into the picture ... a solution or chaos? Regards, Yance __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Dec 12 12:55:35 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CC5BB16A41F for ; Mon, 12 Dec 2005 12:55:35 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ohartman@mail.uni-mainz.de) Received: from mailgate1.zdv.Uni-Mainz.DE (mailgate1.zdv.Uni-Mainz.DE [134.93.178.129]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E286C43D73 for ; Mon, 12 Dec 2005 12:55:23 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ohartman@mail.uni-mainz.de) Received: from [87.193.18.173] (unknown [87.193.18.173]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mailgate1.zdv.Uni-Mainz.DE (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6C9F53000276 for ; Mon, 12 Dec 2005 13:53:13 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <439D72B4.7030907@mail.uni-mainz.de> Date: Mon, 12 Dec 2005 13:53:08 +0100 From: "O. Hartmann" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.7 (X11/20051204) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------000906030208070105080204" X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at uni-mainz.de X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: Lost BOOT menus X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 12 Dec 2005 12:55:35 -0000 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------000906030208070105080204 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hello. After some tests and investigations and fiddling around with RAID and partitioning, I lost the boot menu that is shown when FreeBSD 6.0 starts up. Can anyone help me and tell how to reinstall? Thanks. By the way, I use two disks as RAID 0 (ar0) attached to the SATA ports of a nForce4 chipset (ASUS A8N-SLI Deluxe). Thanks in advance, Oliver --------------000906030208070105080204-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Dec 12 12:59:14 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 13A9916A423 for ; Mon, 12 Dec 2005 12:59:14 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from henninb@gmail.com) Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.203]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AC65843D79 for ; Mon, 12 Dec 2005 12:59:00 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from henninb@gmail.com) Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 68so1808612wri for ; Mon, 12 Dec 2005 04:58:58 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=IyA1dbUeZewIFBSxCnzS+KXo2rQTB4aBdzwoy3ZaGSGOT2FT9DqUqVtckhFZ2iQcUz4R+/loT5NhCD2PYIV90163MLGuJqxeXjuYD/bqNNBdrOpt8aiuljyTjHRhMVv17dWvbZk7o1TE5xyaFikw7obsJZnKRfIfiAb+XUPnTL0= Received: by 10.65.150.14 with SMTP id c14mr5444384qbo; Mon, 12 Dec 2005 04:58:57 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.65.116.2 with HTTP; Mon, 12 Dec 2005 04:58:57 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <47f8d9310512120458jc52e110sddfcb210beda741a@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 12 Dec 2005 06:58:57 -0600 From: Brian Henning To: fico gid , FreeBSD Questions In-Reply-To: <9058283d0512112042h70609067u69d23db4e9942c5b@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline References: <9058283d0512112042h70609067u69d23db4e9942c5b@mail.gmail.com> Cc: Subject: Re: Firefox build error in 5.X X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 12 Dec 2005 12:59:14 -0000 On 12/11/05, fico gid wrote: > Hi Brian, > > Did you get the workaround for the firefox error as I'm getting the > same error like you. > Hope you can help me out. > > > thanks > Fico > Fico, portupgrade nspr portupgrade nss portupgrade firefox Just to warn you, firefox 1.5 seems to crash on me a bit at random times. I don't know why. Brian From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Dec 12 05:18:14 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6BD0A16A41F; Mon, 12 Dec 2005 05:18:14 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jgrosch@mooseriver.com) Received: from mooseriver.com (h-66-166-146-73.snvacaid.covad.net [66.166.146.73]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E1C8043D5A; Mon, 12 Dec 2005 05:18:13 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jgrosch@mooseriver.com) Received: by mooseriver.com (Postfix, from userid 200) id 9964117027; Sun, 11 Dec 2005 21:18:13 -0800 (PST) Date: Sun, 11 Dec 2005 21:18:13 -0800 From: Josef Grosch To: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20051212051813.GA19499@mooseriver.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="YiEDa0DAkWCtVeE4" Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Organization: Moose River, LLC X-Mailman-Approved-At: Mon, 12 Dec 2005 13:05:17 +0000 Cc: Subject: Cardbus panics X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: jgrosch@MooseRiver.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 12 Dec 2005 05:18:14 -0000 --YiEDa0DAkWCtVeE4 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I have an IBM T22 thinkpad running FreeBSD 5.4-RELEASE-p8. I have the CardBus devices in the current kernel. When I insert a CardBus device, A Xircom RealPort CardBus Ethernet I get a kernel panic like so; Dec 9 18:42:32 paris kernel: cbb alloc res fail=20 Dec 9 18:42:32 paris kernel: cardbus1: Can't get memory for IO ports=20 Dec 9 18:42:32 paris kernel: dc0: port 0-0x7f = mem \ 0x88000000-0x880007ff,0x88000800-0x88000fff at device 0.0 on cardbus1=20 Dec 9 18:42:32 paris kernel: cbb alloc res fail=20 Dec 9 18:42:32 paris kernel: dc0: couldn't map ports/memory=20 Dec 9 18:42:32 paris kernel: =20 Dec 9 18:42:32 paris kernel: =20 Dec 9 18:42:32 paris kernel: Fatal trap 12: page fault while in kernel mod= e=20 Dec 9 18:42:32 paris kernel: fault virtual address =3D 0x30=20 Dec 9 18:42:32 paris kernel: fault code =3D supervisor writ= e, pag\ e not present=20 Dec 9 18:42:32 paris kernel: instruction pointer =3D 0x8:0xc07b01f2= =20 Dec 9 18:42:32 paris kernel: stack pointer =3D 0x10:0xd5428c10= =20 Dec 9 18:42:32 paris kernel: frame pointer =3D 0x10:0xd5428c14= =20 Dec 9 18:42:32 paris kernel: code segment =3D base 0x0, limit= 0xfff\ ff, type 0x1b=20 Dec 9 18:42:32 paris kernel: =3D DPL 0, pres 1, def32 1, gran 1=20 Dec 9 18:42:32 paris kernel: processor eflags =3D interrupt enabled, resu= me, IO\ PL =3D 0=20 Dec 9 18:42:32 paris kernel: current process =3D 38 (cbb1)=20 Dec 9 18:42:32 paris kernel: trap number =3D 12=20 Dec 9 18:42:32 paris kernel: panic: page fault=20 Dec 9 18:42:32 paris kernel: Uptime: 35s=20 Dec 9 18:42:32 paris kernel: Cannot dump. No dump device defined.=20 Dec 9 18:42:32 paris kernel: Automatic reboot in 15 seconds - press a key = on t\ he console to abort=20 Any ideas How I can fix this? The suggested sysctl,=20 hw.pci.allow_unsupported_io_range, does not seem to exist in the kernel. Josef --=20 Josef Grosch | Another day closer to a | FreeBSD 5.4 jgrosch@MooseRiver.com | Micro$oft free world | Berkeley, Ca. --YiEDa0DAkWCtVeE4 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iD8DBQFDnQgVy8prLS1GYSERArElAKCDyVQQiY9RPjrJzdeLZDoCnqE0ZACfXpDq 1u5+JLQYH3KS2dL8spcgW/A= =NYDc -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --YiEDa0DAkWCtVeE4-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Dec 12 06:44:48 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1677916A41F for ; Mon, 12 Dec 2005 06:44:48 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from khaled@palnet.com) Received: from mail2.palnet.com (mail2.palnet.com [217.66.226.5]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4F67C43D5E for ; Mon, 12 Dec 2005 06:44:47 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from khaled@palnet.com) Received: from dogbert.palnet.com ([192.116.17.51] helo=click22) by mail2.palnet.com with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1ElhJx-0005Mf-Ky for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 12 Dec 2005 08:38:01 +0200 From: "Khaled Hussein" To: Date: Mon, 12 Dec 2005 08:44:35 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook, Build 11.0.6353 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 Thread-Index: AcX+54Nw4ZaaS2GQRqS5LE3kVg2kdA== Message-Id: <20051212064447.4F67C43D5E@mx1.FreeBSD.org> X-Mailman-Approved-At: Mon, 12 Dec 2005 13:06:27 +0000 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: Exim Question X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 12 Dec 2005 06:44:48 -0000 Hi All i am new to this group and i hope I can find answer for my question, I want to send mail from my Mail server to a list of emails on different domains I stored the list in text file and I tried this command Exim -fme@mydomain.com emails.txt < msg.txt but I got a delivery error that the emails.txt@myserver does not exist I want the software to read every email in the file so what should I do Please if any one have an idea give it to me please Thanks in advance d ********************************** Khaled J. 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Fax.02/2403430 ********************************** From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Dec 12 13:11:09 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E667E16A41F for ; Mon, 12 Dec 2005 13:11:09 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from list-freebsd-2004@morbius.sent.com) Received: from out4.smtp.messagingengine.com (out4.smtp.messagingengine.com [66.111.4.28]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0407743D79 for ; Mon, 12 Dec 2005 13:10:52 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from list-freebsd-2004@morbius.sent.com) Received: from frontend1.internal (mysql-sessions.internal [10.202.2.149]) by frontend1.messagingengine.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id F3FFBD23B16 for ; Mon, 12 Dec 2005 08:10:50 -0500 (EST) Received: from frontend2.messagingengine.com ([10.202.2.151]) by frontend1.internal (MEProxy); Mon, 12 Dec 2005 08:10:51 -0500 X-Sasl-enc: APERTo3GtajNbUHlH/WsMLZOR/XYJYVekaru+9cEDRqD 1134393050 Received: from gumby.localdomain (88-104-200-164.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com [88.104.200.164]) by frontend2.messagingengine.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 593E257146D for ; Mon, 12 Dec 2005 08:10:50 -0500 (EST) From: RW To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Mon, 12 Dec 2005 13:10:47 +0000 User-Agent: KMail/1.8.3 References: <200512121055.47016.work@ashleymoran.me.uk> In-Reply-To: <200512121055.47016.work@ashleymoran.me.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200512121310.49003.list-freebsd-2004@morbius.sent.com> Subject: Re: Disadvantages of running software through compat5x? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 12 Dec 2005 13:11:10 -0000 On Monday 12 December 2005 10:55, Ashley Moran wrote: > I was going to reinstall it with 6.0 and I just wondered if there was any > reason why you shouldn't run a production server on the compat5x port for > any length of time. I can't afford the downtime to remove all the ports > and re-install them. compat5x provides 5.x libraries for packages that are built against FreeBSD 5.x If you upgraded from 5.x, you will still have those libraries left behind, and as far as I can see they take priority over the compat5x copies. If security patches are applied to compat5x, you may have to track down the insecure libraries manually, or update packages. If you later update or add packages, you may run into library conflicts. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Dec 12 13:31:38 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 771B616A41F for ; Mon, 12 Dec 2005 13:31:38 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from hde@daden.net) Received: from mail.ruder.net (216-166-252-178.dsl.peknil.grics.net [216.166.252.178]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 04A6F43D5F for ; Mon, 12 Dec 2005 13:31:37 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from hde@daden.net) Received: from 12.203.202.40 ([12.203.202.40]) by mail.ruder.net ([192.168.10.10]) with Microsoft Exchange Server HTTP-DAV ; Mon, 12 Dec 2005 13:31:35 +0000 Received: from devilBSD.freeBSD by mail.daden.net; 12 Dec 2005 07:31:35 -0600 From: "Harley D. Eades III" To: "O. Hartmann" In-Reply-To: <439D72B4.7030907@mail.uni-mainz.de> References: <439D72B4.7030907@mail.uni-mainz.de> Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Date: Mon, 12 Dec 2005 07:31:35 -0600 Message-Id: <1134394295.14999.11.camel@devilBSD.freeBSD> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.2.1.1 FreeBSD GNOME Team Port Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Lost BOOT menus X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 12 Dec 2005 13:31:38 -0000 On Mon, 2005-12-12 at 13:53 +0100, O. Hartmann wrote: > Hello. > After some tests and investigations and fiddling around with RAID and > partitioning, I lost the boot menu that is shown when FreeBSD 6.0 starts > up. Can anyone help me and tell how to reinstall? Thanks. Check the handbook: http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/boot-blocks.html IIRC this should work, Example 12-2. boot2 Screenshot >> FreeBSD/i386 BOOT Default: 0:ad(0,a)/kernel boot: If you ever need to replace the installed boot1 and boot2 use disklabel(8): # disklabel -B diskslice where diskslice is the disk and slice you boot from, such as ad0s1 for the first slice on the first IDE disk. Dangerously Dedicated Mode: If you use just the disk name, such as ad0, in the disklabel(8) command you will create a dangerously dedicated disk, without slices. This is almost certainly not what you want to do, so make sure you double check the disklabel(8) command before you press Return. But, read through the bootlabel(8) man to be sure. Cheers Harley From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Dec 12 13:50:08 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D4DC916A41F for ; Mon, 12 Dec 2005 13:50:08 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from martin@dc.cis.okstate.edu) Received: from dc.cis.okstate.edu (dc.cis.okstate.edu [139.78.100.219]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 80FD443D55 for ; Mon, 12 Dec 2005 13:50:06 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from martin@dc.cis.okstate.edu) Received: from dc.cis.okstate.edu (localhost.cis.okstate.edu [127.0.0.1]) by dc.cis.okstate.edu (8.12.6/8.12.6) with ESMTP id jBCDo5hn019872 for ; Mon, 12 Dec 2005 07:50:05 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from martin@dc.cis.okstate.edu) Message-Id: <200512121350.jBCDo5hn019872@dc.cis.okstate.edu> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Mon, 12 Dec 2005 07:50:05 -0600 From: Martin McCormick Subject: Re: Regular Expression Trouble X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 12 Dec 2005 13:50:08 -0000 Parv writes: >For even finer results, use word boundaries ... > > egrep '\bIN[^[:alnum:]]+A\b' file > egrep '\' file I sincerely thank all for your examples which I have saved for future reference. The word boundary test appears to work perfectly, but after looking at all the other examples, they should work also giving living proof that in UNIX, there are many perfectly valid ways to solve the same problem. Again, many thanks. Martin McCormick WB5AGZ Stillwater, OK OSU Information Technology Department Network Operations Group .-- -... ..... .- --. --.. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Dec 12 14:25:51 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9E90A16A41F for ; Mon, 12 Dec 2005 14:25:51 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from rsh.lists@comcast.net) Received: from sccrmhc12.comcast.net (sccrmhc12.comcast.net [204.127.202.56]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CEA9243D5F for ; Mon, 12 Dec 2005 14:25:50 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from rsh.lists@comcast.net) Received: from [192.168.1.11] (tardiss.hsd1.ma.comcast.net[66.30.82.93]) by comcast.net (sccrmhc12) with ESMTP id <20051212142549012007jh6oe>; Mon, 12 Dec 2005 14:25:49 +0000 Message-ID: <439D8830.2060608@comcast.net> Date: Mon, 12 Dec 2005 09:24:48 -0500 From: Sean User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.7 (X11/20051207) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: IDE recomendations. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: rsh.lists@comcast.net List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 12 Dec 2005 14:25:51 -0000 I want to try and find some time to start to start beating on some code again, it has been many years since, and wanted to ask for some recommendations on an IDE package. In the past I just used a text editor, but want something more. Right now I been looking over XEmacs, but wanted some other input. What are others using here and why? Thanks Sean From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Dec 12 14:27:20 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5DCAF16A41F for ; Mon, 12 Dec 2005 14:27:20 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from keith@barkinglizards.com) Received: from pluto.phpwebhosting.com (pluto.phpwebhosting.com [69.0.209.128]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id C086F43D5E for ; Mon, 12 Dec 2005 14:27:11 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from keith@barkinglizards.com) Received: (qmail 22312 invoked from network); 12 Dec 2005 14:27:07 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO Stile) (keith%barkinglizards.com@209.117.233.18) by pluto.phpwebhosting.com with SMTP; Mon, 12 Dec 2005 09:27:07 -0500 From: "Keith Bottner" To: "'Robert Marella'" Date: Mon, 12 Dec 2005 08:27:06 -0600 Organization: Barking Lizards Technologies Message-ID: <014901c5ff28$2174bac0$1801a8c0@Stile> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 Thread-Index: AcX9MUkBoUHEL/sbTVe97Sxz8FRmIgB9hpjA In-Reply-To: <20051209162735.574015bc@frankie.konav201.local> Cc: 'FreeBSD Questions' Subject: RE: Detect hardware changes X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 12 Dec 2005 14:27:20 -0000 > > -----Original Message----- > From: Loren M. Lang [mailto:lorenl@alzatex.com] > Sent: Friday, December 09, 2005 9:06 AM > To: Peter Giessel > Cc: Keith Bottner; 'FreeBSD Questions' > Subject: Re: Detect hardware changes > > On Thu, Dec 08, 2005 at 12:02:25PM -0900, Peter Giessel wrote: > > On 12/8/2005 11:51, Keith Bottner seems to have typed: > > > skc0@pci2:9:0: class=0x020000 card=0x00241737 chip=0x10321737 > > > rev=0x10 hdr=0x00 > > > vendor = 'Linksys' > > > device = 'EG1032 Gigabit Ethernet' > > > class = network > > > subclass = ethernet > > > > Looks like this should be supported using the nge driver. > > No, actually the sk driver, look at the first line of pciconfig > output. ifconfig -a should list a network card called skc0 which you > just need to configure. If all you need is dhcp then just run > dhclient skc0. Add the device to rc.conf for it to work on boot. > Use man rc.conf for help or copy the line for the xl0 network card you > already have. > > > _______________________________________________ > > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > > > ipconfig -a doesn't show the skc0 device which I believe is my > ultimate problem. Can I infer from your earlier message that this > means the sk module is not being loaded or is not available? How can I > check to see if the loadable module is installed? > > Thanks, > > Keith > > Hello Keith > > skc0 is the controller. You should see sk0 in ifconfig -a. > > Can you please show us the output of ifconfig -a and rc.conf. > > Thank you > Robert Ifconfig does not show skc0 but here is the output for completeness: xl0: flags=8843 mtu 1500 options=9 inet 192.168.1.217 netmask 0xffffff00 broadcast 192.168.1.255 inet6 fe80::2b0:d0ff:fe16:3d30%xl0 prefixlen 64 scopeid 0x1 ether 00:b0:d0:16:3d:30 media: Ethernet autoselect (100baseTX ) status: active lo0: flags=8049 mtu 16384 inet 127.0.0.1 netmask 0xff000000 inet6 ::1 prefixlen 128 inet6 fe80::1%lo0 prefixlen 64 scopeid 0x2 And rc.conf is: defaultrouter="192.168.1.1" hostname="gsdev.bltmobile.com" ifconfig_xl0="inet 192.168.1.217 netmask 255.255.255.0" ifconfig_skc0="inet 10.0.130.204 netmask 255.255.255.0" linux_enable="YES" moused_enable="YES" sshd_enable="YES" usbd_enable="YES" postgresql_enable="YES" Anything else that I can send that will help? Keith From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Dec 12 14:29:32 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: questions@FreeBSD.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A084B16A41F for ; Mon, 12 Dec 2005 14:29:32 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from J.Krediet@planet.nl) Received: from psmtp04.wxs.nl (psmtp04.wxs.nl [195.121.247.13]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AD33843D9B for ; Mon, 12 Dec 2005 14:29:30 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from J.Krediet@planet.nl) Received: from Medion (ip503c9346.speed.planet.nl [80.60.147.70]) by psmtp04.wxs.nl (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 2.07 (built Jun 24 2005)) with SMTP id <0IRE002282X3D0@psmtp04.wxs.nl> for questions@FreeBSD.org; Mon, 12 Dec 2005 15:29:28 +0100 (MET) Date: Mon, 12 Dec 2005 15:30:37 +0100 From: Jan Krediet To: questions@FreeBSD.org Message-id: <000601c5ff28$9fb71e00$46933c50@Medion> MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2670 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2670 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: Subject: Slices X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 12 Dec 2005 14:29:32 -0000 The Netherlands, Rotterdam: December 12 2005 Hello or Dear reader of this message, At first: I'm a newbie when I am talking about FreeBSD or UNIX! For long time i had the wish to install BSD because I experienced that UNIX or related versions are more powerfull than OSses from Microsoft. So i decided a week ago, to download a FreeBSD vs.6 and to install it. After reading some pages of the handbook and the faq's I expericienced that making a slice for /var with the sice of 50mB ( i used 64mB) is not enough when during the installation i permitted th "Linux compatable". I got the error message (something like): unable to write to /mount/var... it is full. After resizing this /var to 512mB no problems at all. Now I'm testing what real size is needed, because after using the command "du -h" i see that used space is only 1 mB but perhaps with using the command "df" i get the real information about the used space of slice /var. What i like to know from you is: is here something going wrong or is the size, as written in the handbook (50mB) and the faq's, no longer current in your FreeBSD vs.6? Another thing for your information: I'm almost 56 years and for me it is fun to learn. I was 49 when I started with computers (no experience for that time, even with working at a office or what else) in a DOS liking environment because this way is for me the fastest way to understand a OS and so I am happy with BSD because this first install is giving me not a "window"-looking environment so I can really understand BSD/UNIX in a relative short time. Okay, my avantage is working with electronics (making or designing it). So i'm a little proud in understanding so quick at this age. Sorry for so much words (and not always correctly "english"), but as you know: where your heart is full of... your lips want to......! With best and kind regards, Mr. John E. Scharloo mail to: JscharlooE@planet.nl From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Dec 12 14:32:37 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 626A516A436 for ; Mon, 12 Dec 2005 14:32:37 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from keith@barkinglizards.com) Received: from pluto.phpwebhosting.com (pluto.phpwebhosting.com [69.0.209.128]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 24A8F43D86 for ; Mon, 12 Dec 2005 14:32:07 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from keith@barkinglizards.com) Received: (qmail 24883 invoked from network); 12 Dec 2005 14:31:57 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO Stile) (keith%barkinglizards.com@209.117.233.18) by pluto.phpwebhosting.com with SMTP; Mon, 12 Dec 2005 09:31:57 -0500 From: "Keith Bottner" To: "'Alex Zbyslaw'" Date: Mon, 12 Dec 2005 08:31:56 -0600 Organization: Barking Lizards Technologies Message-ID: <014a01c5ff28$ce4f37c0$1801a8c0@Stile> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 Thread-Index: AcX/Co/2l/y6WAVnQnuWLgTm+qL6twAHd05g In-Reply-To: <439D571F.4000905@dial.pipex.com> Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: RE: Detect hardware changes X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 12 Dec 2005 14:32:38 -0000 -----Original Message----- From: Alex Zbyslaw [mailto:xfb52@dial.pipex.com] Sent: Monday, December 12, 2005 4:55 AM To: Keith Bottner Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Detect hardware changes Keith Bottner wrote: >I have not compiled a kernel. This is a standard FreeBSD 5.4-Release >installation. How can I check to see if the loadable module is installed? > > > > Have a look in /var/run/dmesg.boot and see if you have a line like > > sk0: unknown media type 0xff > > If so, plug your card into the network and try again. Even if you don't see such a line, try it if you haven't already. If that doesn't work then what does /var/run/dmesg.boot show for sk0 and skc0? > > I have an SMC card based which fails to attach without a cable -- not sure if it needs to be plugged in to a > router or not. The onboard chipset on a different PC has no such failing. > >--Alex Ok I find the lines that related to skc in the /var/run/dmesg.boot and they are included below: skc0: port 0xe800-0xe8ff mem 0xfbfffc00-0xfbfffcff irq 11 at device 9.0 on pci2 skc0: failed: rid 0x10 is ioport, requested 3 device_attach: skc0 attach returned 6 The second line says failed but I don't where it says anything regarding why. Any ideas? Thanks, Keith From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Dec 12 14:39:19 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8F27716A420 for ; Mon, 12 Dec 2005 14:39:19 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: from aiolos.otenet.gr (aiolos.otenet.gr [195.170.0.93]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 016DD43D60 for ; Mon, 12 Dec 2005 14:39:15 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: from flame.pc (aris.bedc.ondsl.gr [62.103.39.226]) by aiolos.otenet.gr (8.13.4/8.13.4/Debian-8) with SMTP id jBCEdBBq002829; Mon, 12 Dec 2005 16:39:12 +0200 Received: by flame.pc (Postfix, from userid 1001) id E696D11458; Mon, 12 Dec 2005 16:38:21 +0200 (EET) Date: Mon, 12 Dec 2005 16:38:21 +0200 From: Giorgos Keramidas To: Sean Message-ID: <20051212143821.GA2325@flame.pc> References: <439D8830.2060608@comcast.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <439D8830.2060608@comcast.net> Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: IDE recomendations. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 12 Dec 2005 14:39:19 -0000 On 2005-12-12 09:24, Sean wrote: > I want to try and find some time to start to start beating on some > code again, it has been many years since, and wanted to ask for some > recommendations on an IDE package. > > In the past I just used a text editor, but want something more. > Right now I been looking over XEmacs, but wanted some other input. > > What are others using here and why? Emacs is mine :) From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Dec 12 14:47:11 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 09DFF16A41F for ; Mon, 12 Dec 2005 14:47:11 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from freebsd-questions-local@be-well.ilk.org) Received: from mail8.sea5.speakeasy.net (mail8.sea5.speakeasy.net [69.17.117.10]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4384243DAA for ; Mon, 12 Dec 2005 14:46:45 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from freebsd-questions-local@be-well.ilk.org) Received: (qmail 311 invoked from network); 12 Dec 2005 14:46:40 -0000 Received: from dsl092-078-145.bos1.dsl.speakeasy.net (HELO be-well.ilk.org) ([66.92.78.145]) (envelope-sender ) by mail8.sea5.speakeasy.net (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for ; 12 Dec 2005 14:46:40 -0000 Received: by be-well.ilk.org (Postfix, from userid 1147) id 483852841D; Mon, 12 Dec 2005 09:46:39 -0500 (EST) Sender: lowell@be-well.ilk.org To: ruben@bloemgarten.demon.nl References: <20051210161821.4D55A43D8A@mx1.FreeBSD.org> From: Lowell Gilbert Date: 12 Dec 2005 09:46:39 -0500 In-Reply-To: <20051210161821.4D55A43D8A@mx1.FreeBSD.org> Message-ID: <44irtu74q8.fsf@be-well.ilk.org> Lines: 80 User-Agent: Gnus/5.09 (Gnus v5.9.0) Emacs/21.3 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: resolve appends domain section of hostname to non-existent domains X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 12 Dec 2005 14:47:11 -0000 "Ruben Bloemgarten" writes: > Hi all, > > > > Could anyone let me know what's misconfigured here: > > > > When I ping from say server2 # ping jkhdsfkhdsafhjsahfdhksa.com I get the > following reply : > > > > PING jkhdsfkhdsafhjsahfdhksa.com.mydomain2.com (ip.of.server.1): 56 data > bytes > > > > 64 bytes from ip.of.server.1: icmp_seq=0 ttl=64 time=0.594 ms > > 64 bytes from ip.of.server.1: icmp_seq=1 ttl=64 time=0.427 ms > > > > The same happens from server1; it appends it's domain name to the incorrect > domain > > > > # ping jkhdsfkhdsafhjsahfdhksa.com > > > > PING jkhdsfkhdsafhjsahfdhksa.com.mydomain1.com (ip.of.server.1): 56 data > bytes > > > > 64 bytes from ip.of.server.1: icmp_seq=0 ttl=64 time=0.594 ms > > 64 bytes from ip.of.server.1: icmp_seq=1 ttl=64 time=0.427 ms > > > > > > Server2 is running multiple jails behind ipf/ipnat on 5.4-Release. > > Server1 is not running jails or ipf/nat. on 5.2.1-Current > > > > Server1 responds on both systems, which are in the same subnet at the same > colo. > > > > A dig from both systems does reply correctly, stating that > jkhdsfkhdsafhjsahfdhksa.com does not exist. Which leads me to feel that it > would most probably be hosts file related. As the hosts file on both systems > are not doing anything weird i.e.: > > Server2: ip.natted.lan server2 server2.mydomain2.com server2.mydomain2.com. > > Server1: ip.static.wan server1 server1.mydomain1.com server2.mydomain2.com. > > > > Although, as dns has already taken place (on existing domains it does > resolve correctly), it would seem that something is happening after > hosts->dns-> (not using nis). > > > > > Isn't this just the search parameter for resolv.conf(5)? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Dec 12 14:50:25 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3BB9E16A41F for ; Mon, 12 Dec 2005 14:50:25 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from sveinhal@gmail.com) Received: from xproxy.gmail.com (xproxy.gmail.com [66.249.82.198]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4F71043D5E for ; Mon, 12 Dec 2005 14:50:24 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from sveinhal@gmail.com) Received: by xproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id t13so1002439wxc for ; Mon, 12 Dec 2005 06:50:23 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:sender:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=fzvV4u3B3R2XFfgVDY9oFchNGiLTiY46LHt4EdX+yyt16T2M2wKDehzyfdbT3DOs6LvUI1HfJhT8Kp/gZEB9CvN7LbRWzdw25gDrl3SjNHY/pQ0nreqabIO7ScbGNIB5yM6OiXB332cef+UGiZpEjQxjD6sqorgFmt31NPWZgo0= Received: by 10.70.126.2 with SMTP id y2mr8156903wxc; Mon, 12 Dec 2005 06:50:22 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.70.105.11 with HTTP; Mon, 12 Dec 2005 06:50:21 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: Date: Mon, 12 Dec 2005 15:50:21 +0100 From: Svein Halvor Halvorsen Sender: sveinhal@gmail.com To: Jan Krediet In-Reply-To: <000601c5ff28$9fb71e00$46933c50@Medion> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline References: <000601c5ff28$9fb71e00$46933c50@Medion> Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Slices X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 12 Dec 2005 14:50:25 -0000 On 12/12/05, Jan Krediet wrote: > At first: I'm a newbie when I am talking about FreeBSD or UNIX! Welcome to the community! > For long time i had the wish to install BSD because I > experienced that UNIX or related versions are more > powerfull than OSses from Microsoft. > > So i decided a week ago, to download a FreeBSD vs.6 and to install it. Sounds great! > What i like to know from you is: is here something going > wrong or is the size, as written in the handbook (50mB) and the faq's, no= longer current in your FreeBSD vs.6? I'd say that the handbook should be updated, as 50MB is a little short. However, the size you would need for /var will very much depends upon what you plan on using this computer for. The heir(7) manpage will explain in detail what files usually lives inside /var, but to sum up its mostly log files, spool files and package information. Also /var/tmp is used to unpack packages in, which means it would quickly fill up if installing large packages. But this could easily be circumvented though. Point is: If you plan to run a mail or print server or any other server that will have large amounts of spool files lying around, you should increase your /var partition accordingly. Same goes for log files. If you plan on keeping those around for a long time, and run alot of servers that will produce lots of logs, increase /var to fit. > So i'm a little proud in understanding so quick at this age. You should be. Hope you have a fun time getting to know FreeBSD. Svein Halvor From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Dec 12 14:50:49 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 05C6016A420 for ; Mon, 12 Dec 2005 14:50:49 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: from kane.otenet.gr (kane.otenet.gr [195.170.0.95]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3EBFF43D60 for ; Mon, 12 Dec 2005 14:50:48 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: from flame.pc (aris.bedc.ondsl.gr [62.103.39.226]) by kane.otenet.gr (8.13.4/8.13.4/Debian-8) with SMTP id jBCEoemt018416; Mon, 12 Dec 2005 16:50:43 +0200 Received: by flame.pc (Postfix, from userid 1001) id BD40911458; Mon, 12 Dec 2005 16:49:48 +0200 (EET) Date: Mon, 12 Dec 2005 16:49:48 +0200 From: Giorgos Keramidas To: Jan Krediet Message-ID: <20051212144948.GB2325@flame.pc> References: <000601c5ff28$9fb71e00$46933c50@Medion> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <000601c5ff28$9fb71e00$46933c50@Medion> Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: Slices X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 12 Dec 2005 14:50:49 -0000 On 2005-12-12 15:30, Jan Krediet wrote: > At first: I'm a newbie when I am talking about FreeBSD or UNIX! Welcome aboard :) > For long time i had the wish to install BSD because I experienced that > UNIX or related versions are more powerfull than OSses from Microsoft. > > So i decided a week ago, to download a FreeBSD vs.6 and to install it. > > After reading some pages of the handbook and the faq's I expericienced > that making a slice for /var with the sice of 50mB ( i used 64mB) is > not enough when during the installation i permitted th "Linux > compatable". At install time, some of the largest packages may overflow a /var partition that is so small. It's probably wise to use a larger /var partition for other reasons too, as by default it stores a lot of data on systems that use the Ports (to install thirdparty software), it keeps the system log files, and the mail queue. > I got the error message (something like): unable to write to > /mount/var... it is full. > After resizing this /var to 512mB no problems at all. > > Now I'm testing what real size is needed, because after using the > command "du -h" i see that used space is only 1 mB but perhaps with > using the command "df" i get the real information about the used > space of slice /var. The df(1) utility should report the real size. For output that is much easier for us humans to read, you can also use the -h option: $ df -h /var Filesystem Size Used Avail Capacity Mounted on /dev/ad0s1d 965M 28M 860M 3% /var > What i like to know from you is: is here something going wrong or is > the size, as written in the handbook (50mB) and the faq's, no longer > current in your FreeBSD vs.6? It's possible that the documentation lags a bit behind. The section of the Handbook that discusses disk space allocation is probably in need of a few changes in this area. > Another thing for your information: I'm almost 56 years and for me > it is fun to learn. Great to hear that. A lot of people give up on learning new things much much earlier. > Sorry for so much words (and not always correctly "english") As I said already, "welcome" :) From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Dec 12 15:00:55 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E10E916A420 for ; Mon, 12 Dec 2005 15:00:55 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from content-filter@makana.gov.za) Received: from smtp2.imaginet.co.za (smtp2.imaginet.co.za [196.34.166.188]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B69E043D6A for ; Mon, 12 Dec 2005 15:00:54 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from content-filter@makana.gov.za) Received: from [196.211.28.150] (helo=makana.gov.za) by smtp2.imaginet.co.za with esmtpa (Exim 4.50 (FreeBSD)) id 1ElpAX-0004Fn-CV for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 12 Dec 2005 17:00:51 +0200 Received: from 192.168.13.10 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 12 Dec 2005 16:59:40 +0200 From: "WorkgroupMail Content Filter" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sender: "WorkgroupMail Content Filter" Date: Mon, 12 Dec 2005 16:59:39 +0200 X-WM-Plugin-Generated: MailScan MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: X-Whitelisted: The user has authenticated (1). 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From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Dec 12 15:02:41 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4514716A41F for ; Mon, 12 Dec 2005 15:02:41 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from freebsd-questions-local@be-well.ilk.org) Received: from mail6.sea5.speakeasy.net (mail6.sea5.speakeasy.net [69.17.117.8]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2FAD143D7D for ; Mon, 12 Dec 2005 15:02:26 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from freebsd-questions-local@be-well.ilk.org) Received: (qmail 12290 invoked from network); 12 Dec 2005 15:02:23 -0000 Received: from dsl092-078-145.bos1.dsl.speakeasy.net (HELO be-well.ilk.org) ([66.92.78.145]) (envelope-sender ) by mail6.sea5.speakeasy.net (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for ; 12 Dec 2005 15:02:23 -0000 Received: by be-well.ilk.org (Postfix, from userid 1147) id 1C2402841D; Mon, 12 Dec 2005 10:02:22 -0500 (EST) Sender: lowell@be-well.ilk.org To: Anthony Agelastos References: <8a6250b20512110733v55ecd95dn27a6138ab1db59b5@mail.gmail.com> From: Lowell Gilbert Date: 12 Dec 2005 10:02:22 -0500 In-Reply-To: <8a6250b20512110733v55ecd95dn27a6138ab1db59b5@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <4464pu7401.fsf@be-well.ilk.org> Lines: 47 User-Agent: Gnus/5.09 (Gnus v5.9.0) Emacs/21.3 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: moused hanging X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 12 Dec 2005 15:02:41 -0000 Anthony Agelastos writes: > Hello everyone, > > For an unknown reason, my mouse lately has been hanging. It has hung with > X11 running and without X11 running. To fix it, I get to a prompt (usually > via Ctrl+Alt+F1 as it tends to happen primarily when in X) and, as root, I > execute > > % kill mousedPID > % moused -p /dev/psm0 > % vidcontrol -m on > > and, if there is music playing, it slurs for several seconds when I > initially move the mouse, and then it is back to working along with the > mouse. If memory serves, this problem started occurring when I configured > the mouse to use the scrollwheel. To do this, I followed the instructions > per the FreeBSD FAQ. > > http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/faq/x.html#X-AND-WHEEL > > What the FAQ mentions is only related to X11. It has failed on me once when > I booted up FBSD prior to any startx-type of command being run. I have been > running the same version of 6.0-STABLE for over a month now and this problem > has started noticeably occurring a couple of weeks ago. Does anyone have any > ideas? Some additional pertinent information is below. Thank you to everyone > who helps and has helped make FreeBSD a great community. It sounds like it might be an interrupt issue. Is the mouse sharing an interrupt with anything? > > uname -a > FreeBSD ast.home.iq 6.0-STABLE FreeBSD 6.0-STABLE #0: Sat Nov 5 21:29:34 > EST 2005 root@ast.home.iq:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/IQKERNEL i386 > > moused -p /dev/psm0 -i type > sysmouse > > cat /etc/rc.conf | grep moused > moused_enable="YES" > moused_type='auto' > moused_port='/dev/psm0' > > I wanted to mention here that when I change moused_type from auto to ps/2, > it appears to behave more stable. However, in doing this, the scrollwheel > ceases to work in X11. I wanted to also mention that I checked out the FAQ, > Google, and the Handbook and came up empty with all of them . I'm not surprised; I don't think I've heard of this behaviour before. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Dec 12 15:08:16 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EA68E16A41F for ; Mon, 12 Dec 2005 15:08:16 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from xfb52@dial.pipex.com) Received: from smtp-out3.blueyonder.co.uk (smtp-out3.blueyonder.co.uk [195.188.213.6]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 55BB143D67 for ; Mon, 12 Dec 2005 15:08:15 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from xfb52@dial.pipex.com) Received: from [82.41.32.173] ([82.41.32.173]) by smtp-out3.blueyonder.co.uk with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.6713); Mon, 12 Dec 2005 15:09:09 +0000 Message-ID: <439D925D.4050009@dial.pipex.com> Date: Mon, 12 Dec 2005 15:08:13 +0000 From: Alex Zbyslaw User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-GB; rv:1.7.12) Gecko/20051106 X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Keith Bottner References: <014a01c5ff28$ce4f37c0$1801a8c0@Stile> In-Reply-To: <014a01c5ff28$ce4f37c0$1801a8c0@Stile> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-OriginalArrivalTime: 12 Dec 2005 15:09:09.0921 (UTC) FILETIME=[00EFA110:01C5FF2E] Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Detect hardware changes X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 12 Dec 2005 15:08:17 -0000 Keith Bottner wrote: >Ok I find the lines that related to skc in the /var/run/dmesg.boot and they >are included below: > >skc0: port 0xe800-0xe8ff mem >0xfbfffc00-0xfbfffcff irq 11 at device 9.0 on pci2 >skc0: failed: rid 0x10 is ioport, requested 3 >device_attach: skc0 attach returned 6 > >The second line says failed but I don't where it says anything regarding >why. Any ideas? > > Well, it *does* say why, you just don't understand what it is saying. Nor do I ;-) I suggest you try on the hardware list, try filing a PR, or be bold and email the author of the driver. PR is probably the recommended route, but don't quote me. Just to be clear, if the device is not attaching then nothing you do with pciconf or in any config file will make any difference. You could also try: google for your specific error "rid 0x10 is ioport" If this is 5.4, try downloading and booting from 6.0 CD (just CD1 should be required) and see if that spots it. When you get into sysinstall you can hit "Pause" then "Page Up" to see the boot log. If this is 6.0 then vice versa! Your card is listed as apparently 5.4 compatible, but manufacturers just go and change things so cards which worked in one revision, fail in another. --Alex From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Dec 12 15:08:56 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3FF1616A41F for ; Mon, 12 Dec 2005 15:08:56 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from roberthuff@rcn.com) Received: from smtp02.mrf.mail.rcn.net (smtp02.mrf.mail.rcn.net [207.172.4.62]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D131D43D49 for ; Mon, 12 Dec 2005 15:08:55 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from roberthuff@rcn.com) Received: from 209-6-203-192.c3-0.smr-ubr1.sbo-smr.ma.cable.rcn.com (HELO jerusalem.litteratus.org.litteratus.org) ([209.6.203.192]) by smtp02.mrf.mail.rcn.net with ESMTP; 12 Dec 2005 10:08:56 -0500 X-IronPort-AV: i="3.99,244,1131339600"; d="scan'208"; a="183120706:sNHT165686872" From: Robert Huff MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <17309.37575.337162.532084@jerusalem.litteratus.org> Date: Mon, 12 Dec 2005 10:09:59 -0500 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <20051212144948.GB2325@flame.pc> References: <000601c5ff28$9fb71e00$46933c50@Medion> <20051212144948.GB2325@flame.pc> X-Mailer: VM 7.17 under 21.5 (beta23) "daikon" XEmacs Lucid Subject: Re: Slices X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 12 Dec 2005 15:08:56 -0000 Giorgos Keramidas writes: > > After reading some pages of the handbook and the faq's I expericienced > > that making a slice for /var with the sice of 50mB ( i used 64mB) is > > not enough when during the installation i permitted th "Linux > > compatable". > > At install time, some of the largest packages may overflow a /var > partition that is so small. Not just at install time. If you decide to install applications using the ports system, some of them use /var for the build process. I've had builds die because there was insufficient free space on /var. (Mind you, I remember these being large/complex applications - OpenOffice, Mozilla, Java - but even so.) In my opinion, given modern disk capacities 50mb is way too small. To register a data point: huff@> df -h /var Filesystem Size Used Avail Capacity Mounted on /dev/da0s1d 989M 169M 741M 19% /var Robert Huff From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Dec 12 15:23:21 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B368416A424 for ; Mon, 12 Dec 2005 15:23:21 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from robert@webtent.com) Received: from columbus.webtent.org (static-70-110-70-42.tampfl.fios.verizon.net [70.110.70.42]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E50B443D69 for ; Mon, 12 Dec 2005 15:23:08 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from robert@webtent.com) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by linux.local (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3C34CCFAB5 for ; Mon, 12 Dec 2005 09:19:20 -0500 (EST) From: Robert Fitzpatrick To: FreeBSD Content-Type: text/plain Organization: WebTent Networking, Inc. Date: Mon, 12 Dec 2005 09:19:19 -0500 Message-Id: <1134397159.6334.21.camel@columbus> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.2.1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Reaching kern.maxfiles X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 12 Dec 2005 15:23:21 -0000 Been running this FreeBSD 5.2.1 server since 5.2 was released, never had an issue couldn't resolve, especially with the help of this and other lists. Now I'm stumped. I posted this issue last week, someone suggested I look at: http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/configtuning-kernel-limits.html The problem with reaching kern.maxfiles started immediately after doing several upgrades including Perl 5.8.4 to 5.8.7 and other minor level upgrades - Postfix 2.2.3 to 2.2.6, amavisd-new 2.2 to 2.3, SpamAssassin 3.0 to 3.1 and others. Since stopping and starting Postfix every 10 minutes alliviates the issue, I portdowngraded Postfix, amavisd-new and SpamAssassin to previous packages and still reach the kern.maxfiles of over 12000 within minutes. Anyone have an inclination of what I can do to track down the cause of this issue? Do I need to increase kern.maxfiles (but why) or am I going to have to reinstall FreeBSD (I thought I'd never say that to fix a problem, like Winblows). I have already checked all partitions where a lot of issues were found on /var, but went to single user mode and repaired it to a clean state, disks (RAID 5) all seemed fine. The lsof command shows mostly smtp and smtpd processes with open files during this issue, but a lot of postfix clean up processes with open files to various libraries. This is just a snippet of the 11000 files open at one time, but most entries are like these: smtpd 10522 root 111u KQUEUE 0xc756f900 count=0, state=0 smtpd 10522 root 112u KQUEUE 0xc728b000 count=0, state=0 smtpd 10522 root 113u KQUEUE 0xc7c72100 count=0, state=0 smtpd 10522 root 114u KQUEUE 0xc7cb3a00 count=0, state=0 smtpd 10522 root 115u KQUEUE 0xca892800 count=0, state=0 smtpd 10522 root 116u KQUEUE 0xc7d89d00 count=0, state=0 smtpd 10522 root 117u KQUEUE 0xc72bdc00 count=0, state=0 smtpd 10522 root 118u KQUEUE 0xc7d5d500 count=0, state=0 cleanup 10530 postfix cwd VDIR 4,17 512 965640 /var/spool/postfix cleanup 10530 postfix rtd VDIR 4,13 512 2 / cleanup 10530 postfix txt VREG 4,16 250855 2499176 /usr/local/libexec/postfix/cleanup cleanup 10530 postfix txt VREG 4,13 135188 94210 /libexec/ld-elf.so.1 cleanup 10530 postfix txt VREG 4,16 97995 2246523 /usr/local/lib/libsasl2.so.2 cleanup 10530 postfix txt VREG 4,16 28036 1413244 /usr/lib/libpam.so.2 cleanup 10530 postfix txt VREG 4,13 32740 70658 /lib/libcrypt.so.2 cleanup 10530 postfix txt VREG 4,16 259651 2248530 /usr/local/lib/libssl.so.4 cleanup 10530 postfix txt VREG 4,16 1308218 2248522 /usr/local/lib/libcrypto.so.4 cleanup 10530 postfix txt VREG 4,16 969676 2496614 /usr/local/lib/db42/libdb-4.2.so.2 cleanup 10530 postfix txt VREG 4,16 241030 2241407 /usr/local/lib/libldap-2.2.so.7 cleanup 10530 postfix txt VREG 4,16 61071 2241404 /usr/local/lib/liblber-2.2.so.7 cleanup 10530 postfix txt VREG 4,16 53192 2242521 /usr/local/lib/libpcre.so.0 cleanup 10530 postfix txt VREG 4,13 892348 70667 /lib/libc.so.5 cleanup 10530 postfix txt VREG 4,16 111336 1415475 /usr/lib/libc_r.so.5 cleanup 10530 postfix txt VREG 4,16 204560 1413283 /usr/lib/libssl.so.3 cleanup 10530 postfix txt VREG 4,13 1106720 70679 /lib/libcrypto.so.3 cleanup 10530 postfix txt VREG 4,16 47428 2237797 /usr/local/lib/nss_ldap.so.1 cleanup 10530 postfix 0u VCHR 2,2 0t0 8 /dev/null cleanup 10530 postfix 1u VCHR 2,2 0t0 8 /dev/null cleanup 10530 postfix 2u VCHR 2,2 0t0 8 /dev/null cleanup 10530 postfix 3u PIPE 0xc8864e1c 16384 ->0xc7ac9810 cleanup 10530 postfix 4u PIPE 0xc7ac9810 16384 ->0xc8864e1c cleanup 10530 postfix 5u PIPE 0xc72160ac 16384 ->0xc6e1d2b0 cleanup 10530 postfix 6u unix 0xc71180f0 0t0 public/cleanup cleanup 10530 postfix 7u unix 0xc71614b0 0t0 ->0xc6d674b0 cleanup 10530 postfix 8u VREG 4,17 0 965683 /var/spool/postfix/pid/unix.cleanup cleanup 10530 postfix 9u unix 0xcad4d2d0 0t0 public/cleanup cleanup 10530 postfix 10r VREG 4,16 49152 2386167 /usr/local/etc/postfix/transport.map.db cleanup 10530 postfix 11r VREG 4,16 49152 2386167 /usr/local/etc/postfix/transport.map.db cleanup 10530 postfix 12u IPv4 0xc71648a0 0t0 TCP directory.webtent.net:60741->directory.webtent.net:ldap (ESTABLISHED) cleanup 10530 postfix 13u VREG 4,17 0 966093 /var/spool/postfix/incoming/632A6EBDCD cleanup 10530 postfix 14u unix 0xc7235690 0t0 ->0xc7217a50 cleanup 10531 postfix cwd VDIR 4,17 512 965640 /var/spool/postfix cleanup 10531 postfix rtd VDIR 4,13 512 2 / cleanup 10531 postfix txt VREG 4,16 250855 2499176 /usr/local/libexec/postfix/cleanup cleanup 10531 postfix txt VREG 4,13 135188 94210 /libexec/ld-elf.so.1 cleanup 10531 postfix txt VREG 4,16 97995 2246523 /usr/local/lib/libsasl2.so.2 cleanup 10531 postfix txt VREG 4,16 28036 1413244 /usr/lib/libpam.so.2 cleanup 10531 postfix txt VREG 4,13 32740 70658 /lib/libcrypt.so.2 cleanup 10531 postfix txt VREG 4,16 259651 2248530 /usr/local/lib/libssl.so.4 cleanup 10531 postfix txt VREG 4,16 1308218 2248522 /usr/local/lib/libcrypto.so.4 cleanup 10531 postfix txt VREG 4,16 969676 2496614 /usr/local/lib/db42/libdb-4.2.so.2 Clues? -- Robert From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Dec 12 15:57:36 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B367316A41F for ; Mon, 12 Dec 2005 15:57:36 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ringworm01@gmail.com) Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.193]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1B6E843D58 for ; Mon, 12 Dec 2005 15:57:36 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ringworm01@gmail.com) Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 8so1407424nzo for ; Mon, 12 Dec 2005 07:57:35 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:from:to:subject:date:user-agent:cc:references:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:message-id; b=d0t3edeUz8VruZC+9/cFuLvulMYiCgZYun/nOZ8mPumFiueSjeJCu8bfl4L5LyYUlTYPHM5J8Q5UziovioHe7OglUCBAUHvpGhqCZvfjFeN/1sNb11/0Lb+SyAqcSJPQbvttm9IxL0ZU56U20ctydbMeRG9QAwOmJHsYVeF+4rU= Received: by 10.65.239.7 with SMTP id q7mr1249432qbr; Mon, 12 Dec 2005 07:57:35 -0800 (PST) Received: from ringworm.mechee.com ( [71.102.14.129]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id e18sm3135028qba.2005.12.12.07.57.33; Mon, 12 Dec 2005 07:57:34 -0800 (PST) From: "Michael C. Shultz" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Mon, 12 Dec 2005 07:57:30 -0800 User-Agent: KMail/1.8.3 References: <1134397159.6334.21.camel@columbus> In-Reply-To: <1134397159.6334.21.camel@columbus> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-6" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200512120757.31052.ringworm01@gmail.com> Cc: Robert Fitzpatrick Subject: Re: Reaching kern.maxfiles X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 12 Dec 2005 15:57:36 -0000 On Monday 12 December 2005 06:19, Robert Fitzpatrick wrote: > Been running this FreeBSD 5.2.1 server since 5.2 was released, never had > an issue couldn't resolve, especially with the help of this and other > lists. Now I'm stumped. I posted this issue last week, someone suggested > I look at: > > http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/configtuning-kern >el-limits.html > > The problem with reaching kern.maxfiles started immediately after doing > several upgrades including Perl 5.8.4 to 5.8.7 and other minor level > upgrades - Postfix 2.2.3 to 2.2.6, amavisd-new 2.2 to 2.3, SpamAssassin > 3.0 to 3.1 and others. Since stopping and starting Postfix every 10 > minutes alliviates the issue, I portdowngraded Postfix, amavisd-new and > SpamAssassin to previous packages and still reach the kern.maxfiles of > over 12000 within minutes. Downgrading just a few ports doesn't take into account their dependencies, and if you downgrade the dependencies then other ports that need them will have problems. -Mike > > Anyone have an inclination of what I can do to track down the cause of > this issue? Do I need to increase kern.maxfiles (but why) or am I going > to have to reinstall FreeBSD (I thought I'd never say that to fix a > problem, like Winblows). I have already checked all partitions where a > lot of issues were found on /var, but went to single user mode and > repaired it to a clean state, disks (RAID 5) all seemed fine. > > The lsof command shows mostly smtp and smtpd processes with open files > during this issue, but a lot of postfix clean up processes with open > files to various libraries. This is just a snippet of the 11000 files > open at one time, but most entries are like these: > > smtpd 10522 root 111u KQUEUE 0xc756f900 > count=0, state=0 > smtpd 10522 root 112u KQUEUE 0xc728b000 > count=0, state=0 > smtpd 10522 root 113u KQUEUE 0xc7c72100 > count=0, state=0 > smtpd 10522 root 114u KQUEUE 0xc7cb3a00 > count=0, state=0 > smtpd 10522 root 115u KQUEUE 0xca892800 > count=0, state=0 > smtpd 10522 root 116u KQUEUE 0xc7d89d00 > count=0, state=0 > smtpd 10522 root 117u KQUEUE 0xc72bdc00 > count=0, state=0 > smtpd 10522 root 118u KQUEUE 0xc7d5d500 > count=0, state=0 > cleanup 10530 postfix cwd VDIR 4,17 512 > 965640 /var/spool/postfix > cleanup 10530 postfix rtd VDIR 4,13 512 2 / > cleanup 10530 postfix txt VREG 4,16 250855 > 2499176 /usr/local/libexec/postfix/cleanup > cleanup 10530 postfix txt VREG 4,13 135188 > 94210 /libexec/ld-elf.so.1 > cleanup 10530 postfix txt VREG 4,16 97995 > 2246523 /usr/local/lib/libsasl2.so.2 > cleanup 10530 postfix txt VREG 4,16 28036 > 1413244 /usr/lib/libpam.so.2 > cleanup 10530 postfix txt VREG 4,13 32740 > 70658 /lib/libcrypt.so.2 > cleanup 10530 postfix txt VREG 4,16 259651 > 2248530 /usr/local/lib/libssl.so.4 > cleanup 10530 postfix txt VREG 4,16 1308218 > 2248522 /usr/local/lib/libcrypto.so.4 > cleanup 10530 postfix txt VREG 4,16 969676 > 2496614 /usr/local/lib/db42/libdb-4.2.so.2 > cleanup 10530 postfix txt VREG 4,16 241030 > 2241407 /usr/local/lib/libldap-2.2.so.7 > cleanup 10530 postfix txt VREG 4,16 61071 > 2241404 /usr/local/lib/liblber-2.2.so.7 > cleanup 10530 postfix txt VREG 4,16 53192 > 2242521 /usr/local/lib/libpcre.so.0 > cleanup 10530 postfix txt VREG 4,13 892348 > 70667 /lib/libc.so.5 > cleanup 10530 postfix txt VREG 4,16 111336 > 1415475 /usr/lib/libc_r.so.5 > cleanup 10530 postfix txt VREG 4,16 204560 > 1413283 /usr/lib/libssl.so.3 > cleanup 10530 postfix txt VREG 4,13 1106720 > 70679 /lib/libcrypto.so.3 > cleanup 10530 postfix txt VREG 4,16 47428 > 2237797 /usr/local/lib/nss_ldap.so.1 > cleanup 10530 postfix 0u VCHR 2,2 0t0 > 8 /dev/null > cleanup 10530 postfix 1u VCHR 2,2 0t0 > 8 /dev/null > cleanup 10530 postfix 2u VCHR 2,2 0t0 > 8 /dev/null > cleanup 10530 postfix 3u PIPE 0xc8864e1c 16384 > ->0xc7ac9810 > cleanup 10530 postfix 4u PIPE 0xc7ac9810 16384 > ->0xc8864e1c > cleanup 10530 postfix 5u PIPE 0xc72160ac 16384 > ->0xc6e1d2b0 > cleanup 10530 postfix 6u unix 0xc71180f0 0t0 > public/cleanup > cleanup 10530 postfix 7u unix 0xc71614b0 0t0 > ->0xc6d674b0 > cleanup 10530 postfix 8u VREG 4,17 0 > 965683 /var/spool/postfix/pid/unix.cleanup > cleanup 10530 postfix 9u unix 0xcad4d2d0 0t0 > public/cleanup > cleanup 10530 postfix 10r VREG 4,16 49152 > 2386167 /usr/local/etc/postfix/transport.map.db > cleanup 10530 postfix 11r VREG 4,16 49152 > 2386167 /usr/local/etc/postfix/transport.map.db > cleanup 10530 postfix 12u IPv4 0xc71648a0 0t0 TCP > directory.webtent.net:60741->directory.webtent.net:ldap (ESTABLISHED) > cleanup 10530 postfix 13u VREG 4,17 0 > 966093 /var/spool/postfix/incoming/632A6EBDCD > cleanup 10530 postfix 14u unix 0xc7235690 0t0 > ->0xc7217a50 > cleanup 10531 postfix cwd VDIR 4,17 512 > 965640 /var/spool/postfix > cleanup 10531 postfix rtd VDIR 4,13 512 2 / > cleanup 10531 postfix txt VREG 4,16 250855 > 2499176 /usr/local/libexec/postfix/cleanup > cleanup 10531 postfix txt VREG 4,13 135188 > 94210 /libexec/ld-elf.so.1 > cleanup 10531 postfix txt VREG 4,16 97995 > 2246523 /usr/local/lib/libsasl2.so.2 > cleanup 10531 postfix txt VREG 4,16 28036 > 1413244 /usr/lib/libpam.so.2 > cleanup 10531 postfix txt VREG 4,13 32740 > 70658 /lib/libcrypt.so.2 > cleanup 10531 postfix txt VREG 4,16 259651 > 2248530 /usr/local/lib/libssl.so.4 > cleanup 10531 postfix txt VREG 4,16 1308218 > 2248522 /usr/local/lib/libcrypto.so.4 > cleanup 10531 postfix txt VREG 4,16 969676 > 2496614 /usr/local/lib/db42/libdb-4.2.so.2 > > Clues? > > -- > Robert > > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Dec 12 16:04:54 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E28C916A41F for ; Mon, 12 Dec 2005 16:04:54 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from e.schuele@computer.org) Received: from rwcrmhc11.comcast.net (rwcrmhc11.comcast.net [204.127.198.35]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 59C1243D55 for ; Mon, 12 Dec 2005 16:04:54 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from e.schuele@computer.org) Received: from [208.206.151.59] (host59.gtisd.com[208.206.151.59]) by comcast.net (rwcrmhc11) with ESMTP id <2005121216045301300bgfk6e>; Mon, 12 Dec 2005 16:04:53 +0000 Message-ID: <439D9FA3.7030603@computer.org> Date: Mon, 12 Dec 2005 10:04:51 -0600 From: Eric Schuele User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.7 (X11/20051204) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: FreeBSD Questions Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: grep'ping the ps output.... X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 12 Dec 2005 16:04:55 -0000 Hello, I am sure this is quite trivial, but... I have need to determine if an app (firefox, or anything really) is already running before I perform some action. So I grep the ps output. However sometimes (many times) that which I'm searching for is present in the output because I am presently grep'ing for it. But it is not always there. It seems to be a bit inconsistent. (See below). I was wondering if someone could explain why it is sometimes there and not other times. And how I should correctly go about detecting if the process is running before I perform my action. Thanks, Eric %ps | grep firefox^M^M 703 v0 I 0:00.00 /bin/sh /usr/X11R6/bin/firefox^M 722 v0 I 0:00.00 /bin/sh /usr/X11R6/lib/firefox/run-mozilla.sh /usr/X1^ M 734 v0 S 0:10.92 /usr/X11R6/lib/firefox/firefox-bin^M %ps | grep firefox^M^M 703 v0 I 0:00.00 /bin/sh /usr/X11R6/bin/firefox^M 722 v0 I 0:00.00 /bin/sh /usr/X11R6/lib/firefox/run-mozilla.sh /usr/X1^ M 734 v0 S 0:10.92 /usr/X11R6/lib/firefox/firefox-bin^M 1230 p1 RV 0:00.00 grep firefox (csh)^M %^M^M %ps | grep firefox^M^M 703 v0 I 0:00.00 /bin/sh /usr/X11R6/bin/firefox^M 722 v0 I 0:00.00 /bin/sh /usr/X11R6/lib/firefox/run-mozilla.sh /usr/X1^ M 734 v0 S 0:10.92 /usr/X11R6/lib/firefox/firefox-bin^M 1232 p1 R+ 0:00.00 grep firefox^M %ps | grep firefox^M^M 703 v0 I 0:00.00 /bin/sh /usr/X11R6/bin/firefox^M 722 v0 I 0:00.00 /bin/sh /usr/X11R6/lib/firefox/run-mozilla.sh /usr/X1^ M 734 v0 S 0:10.92 /usr/X11R6/lib/firefox/firefox-bin^M %ps | grep firefox^M^M 703 v0 I 0:00.00 /bin/sh /usr/X11R6/bin/firefox^M 722 v0 I 0:00.00 /bin/sh /usr/X11R6/lib/firefox/run-mozilla.sh /usr/X1^ M 734 v0 S 0:10.92 /usr/X11R6/lib/firefox/firefox-bin^M 1236 p1 R+ 0:00.00 grep firefox^M %ps | grep firefox^M^M 703 v0 I 0:00.00 /bin/sh /usr/X11R6/bin/firefox^M 722 v0 I 0:00.00 /bin/sh /usr/X11R6/lib/firefox/run-mozilla.sh /usr/X1^ M 734 v0 S 0:10.92 /usr/X11R6/lib/firefox/firefox-bin^M -- Regards, Eric From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Dec 12 16:07:31 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4045D16A41F for ; Mon, 12 Dec 2005 16:07:31 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) Received: from mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com (mail.web-strider.com [65.75.192.90]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 78A5D43D67 for ; Mon, 12 Dec 2005 16:07:30 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) Received: from tedwin2k (nat-rtr.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [65.75.197.130]) by mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com (8.11.1/8.11.1) with SMTP id jBCG4Mb95326; Mon, 12 Dec 2005 08:04:22 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) From: "Ted Mittelstaedt" To: "Yance Kowara" Date: Mon, 12 Dec 2005 08:01:09 -0800 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.6604 (9.0.2911.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1506 In-Reply-To: <20051212075707.5314.qmail@web30312.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Importance: Normal Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: RE: FreeBSD router two DSL connections X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 12 Dec 2005 16:07:31 -0000 >-----Original Message----- >From: Yance Kowara [mailto:yance_kowara@yahoo.com] >Sent: Sunday, December 11, 2005 11:57 PM >To: Ted Mittelstaedt >Subject: RE: FreeBSD router two DSL connections > > >Ted, > >Thanks for the advice. > >A friend of mine has just acquired an Internet Cafe. >The previous owner connected the lan to 2 different >ADSL (two different ISPs) one is a back up he said. > >So, two ADSL routers with half the Lan connected to >one router and another half to the other router. > Most likely the trick used was to setup 2 independent routers, one on each DSL line, and set half of the machines to use one router as their default gateway, and half of the systems to use the other. If they really did use separate physical networks that is a dumb idea, because you now have problems copying update files and such in between systems in the Cafe. It is a very crude form of redundancy but this is NOT a load-sharing scenario. Keep in mind the real need of an Internet Cafe is redundancy, not bandwidth, so although crude, this solution is one of the few solutions that is available on a shoestring that is really effective. >I am just thingking of a way to optimise the >connection and came accross Steven's article. I >thought I could do something similar with *BSD + pf. > >There is such thing as Dual Wan ADSL router: >http://www.infosmart.com.tw/p-ndr3024.htm > And they do NOT work to combine bandwidth. What these devices do is they split the NAT translation table and whichever DSL line is unused gets the next translation slot allocated. However the restriction is each translation slot still only gets the bandwidth available for that DSL line. Thus if your web-surfing and 1 DSL line is busy, you get shunted to the next, but you cannot get the bandwidth available from both lines at the same time, on the same PC. Now, if you happened to open 2 separate FTP sessions on your PC, and if the load-sharer was sophisticated enough, it might be able to put 1 session on 1 DSL line, and the other on the other. But each session is still limited to the top speed of the DSL line. To the uninitiated, however, that might APPEAR to work as a bandwidth load balancer. The challenge I have always posed to the proponents of this trick was to post results of downloading the latest FreeBSD iso file that show they got the iso file in half the time. Never been met, of course. These devices also have a lot of trouble detecting when one of the DSL lines is having a problem. For example you could have 1 DSL line going very, very slow, the router thinks that circuit is still up because all it can do is decide if a DSL line is up or not - but traffic going through this is dog-slow. If for example one of those Internet Cafe PC's got infected with a mass-mailing virus, it would cause exactly that scenario. Would you rather have 1/2 of the PC's in the Internet cafe that are using the slow DSL line as their default gateway just get dog-slow, and the other 1/2 continue to work normally, or would you rather have every single PC in the Cafe become intermittently slow when one of the DSL lines gets slow? >However, they are quite pricey compare to setting up a >*BSD box (using old readily available hardware). > The NAT software in FreeBSD (and indeed, in any UNIX os) does not have the notion of separate route tables and cannot do this. In fact, just about all Cisco or other high-end routers cannot deal with multiple, independent route tables in the same box. > >So, if this load balancing idea does not work, any >other thing I can do to optimise two DSLs? > >I also came accross this (linux way): >http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/Adv-Routing-HOWTO/lartc.rpdb.multiple- >links.html > >Is this worth trying? > It is the same issue - would you rather have half the PCs in the Cafe get slow if there's a problem, or all of them become intermittently slow? I know about that Linux howto. It came about a few years or so ago when the bozo that wrote it, who had no understanding of networking, posted exactly the same question you posted on one of the major networking mailing lists, and when he was told it wasn't possible, he got so pisssed off he was going to show those upity mucks that he knew better than they did. The result is a scheme that appeared to work enough to satisfy this guy's ego, he never of course has posted any followup as to how well it works when presented with the kinds of failure scenarios (fiber-seeking backhoe, etc.) that are common in real life. It's easier for the proctor of the Internet Cafe to simply tell the customer if one PC is acting up to go to another one that isn't. Also keep in mind that unless both DSL lines are coming in on completely separate wiring plants, you really don't have true redundancy. If your going to do this on the cheap, it would be more effective to use 1 DSL line for some of the machines, and a cable modem for the other. Like the other guy said, if your friend wants more bandidth, buy a business-class DSL line for more money. :-) Ted From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Dec 12 16:08:42 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 462AB16A41F for ; Mon, 12 Dec 2005 16:08:42 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from sasa@stupar.homelinux.net) Received: from avs4.arnes.si (avs4.arnes.si [193.2.1.77]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9811B43D58 for ; Mon, 12 Dec 2005 16:08:41 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from sasa@stupar.homelinux.net) Received: from localhost (avs4.arnes.si [193.2.1.77]) by avs4.arnes.si (Postfix) with ESMTP id 963E62C350B for ; Mon, 12 Dec 2005 17:08:40 +0100 (CET) Received: from avs4.arnes.si ([193.2.1.77]) by localhost (avs4.arnes.si [193.2.1.77]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 79365-06 for ; Mon, 12 Dec 2005 17:08:40 +0100 (CET) Received: from xmail.homelinux.net (cmb16-74.dial-up.arnes.si [194.249.51.74]) by avs4.arnes.si (Postfix) with ESMTP id 610932C3509 for ; Mon, 12 Dec 2005 17:08:40 +0100 (CET) Received: from [192.168.10.249] (master.workgroup [192.168.10.249]) (authenticated bits=0) by xmail.homelinux.net (8.13.5/8.13.3) with ESMTP id jBCG8cci009559 for ; Mon, 12 Dec 2005 17:08:38 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from sasa@stupar.homelinux.net) Date: Mon, 12 Dec 2005 17:08:40 +0100 From: Sasa Stupar To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <17309.37575.337162.532084@jerusalem.litteratus.org> References: <000601c5ff28$9fb71e00$46933c50@Medion> <20051212144948.GB2325@flame.pc> <17309.37575.337162.532084@jerusalem.litteratus.org> X-Mailer: Mulberry/3.1.6 (Win32) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV version 0.87.1, clamav-milter version 0.87 on mig29.workgroup X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at arnes.si Subject: Re: Slices X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 12 Dec 2005 16:08:42 -0000 --On 12. december 2005 10:09 -0500 Robert Huff wrote: > > Giorgos Keramidas writes: > >> > After reading some pages of the handbook and the faq's I expericienced >> > that making a slice for /var with the sice of 50mB ( i used 64mB) is >> > not enough when during the installation i permitted th "Linux >> > compatable". >> >> At install time, some of the largest packages may overflow a /var >> partition that is so small. > > Not just at install time. If you decide to install > applications using the ports system, some of them use /var for the > build process. I've had builds die because there was insufficient > free space on /var. (Mind you, I remember these being large/complex > applications - OpenOffice, Mozilla, Java - but even so.) In my > opinion, given modern disk capacities 50mb is way too small. > To register a data point: > > huff@> df -h /var > Filesystem Size Used Avail Capacity Mounted on > /dev/da0s1d 989M 169M 741M 19% /var > > > Robert Huff You can also do the same as I did. I have just configured one slice named / which takes all the space on hdd and now I don't need to worry about space shortage. -- Sasa Stupar From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Dec 12 16:12:44 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E8BFA16A420 for ; Mon, 12 Dec 2005 16:12:44 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from FreeBSD@keyslapper.net) Received: from russian-caravan.cloud9.net (russian-caravan.cloud9.net [168.100.1.4]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 332EA43D80 for ; Mon, 12 Dec 2005 16:12:33 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from FreeBSD@keyslapper.net) Received: from russian-caravan.cloud9.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by russian-caravan.cloud9.net (Postfix) with SMTP id AAC4D17691; Mon, 12 Dec 2005 11:12:25 -0500 (EST) Received: from keyslapper.net (250-119.customer.cloud9.net [168.100.250.119]) by russian-caravan.cloud9.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A784917758; Mon, 12 Dec 2005 11:12:21 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by keyslapper.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 989231178E; Mon, 12 Dec 2005 11:08:11 -0500 (EST) Received: from keyslapper.net ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (keyslapper.net [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 78980-07; Mon, 12 Dec 2005 11:08:11 -0500 (EST) Received: from www.keyslapper.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by keyslapper.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4B4221144A; Mon, 12 Dec 2005 11:08:11 -0500 (EST) Received: from 38.112.155.126 (SquirrelMail authenticated user leblanc) by www.keyslapper.net with HTTP; Mon, 12 Dec 2005 11:08:11 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <7002.38.112.155.126.1134403691.squirrel@www.keyslapper.net> In-Reply-To: <439D9FA3.7030603@computer.org> References: <439D9FA3.7030603@computer.org> Date: Mon, 12 Dec 2005 11:08:11 -0500 (EST) From: "Louis J. LeBlanc" To: "Eric Schuele" User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.5 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at keyslapper.net Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-AntiVirus: Checked by Vexira Antivirus v1.5 Cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: grep'ping the ps output.... X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 12 Dec 2005 16:12:45 -0000 On Mon, December 12, 2005 11:04 am, Eric Schuele wrote: > Hello, > > I am sure this is quite trivial, but... > > I have need to determine if an app (firefox, or anything really) is > already running before I perform some action. So I grep the ps output. > However sometimes (many times) that which I'm searching for is presen= t > in the output because I am presently grep'ing for it. But it is not > always there. It seems to be a bit inconsistent. (See below). > > I was wondering if someone could explain why it is sometimes there and > not other times. And how I should correctly go about detecting if the > process is running before I perform my action. > > Thanks, > Eric > > > %ps | grep firefox^M^M > 703 v0 I 0:00.00 /bin/sh /usr/X11R6/bin/firefox^M > 722 v0 I 0:00.00 /bin/sh /usr/X11R6/lib/firefox/run-mozilla.s= h > /usr/X1^ > M > 734 v0 S 0:10.92 /usr/X11R6/lib/firefox/firefox-bin^M > %ps | grep firefox^M^M > 703 v0 I 0:00.00 /bin/sh /usr/X11R6/bin/firefox^M > 722 v0 I 0:00.00 /bin/sh /usr/X11R6/lib/firefox/run-mozilla.s= h > /usr/X1^ > M > 734 v0 S 0:10.92 /usr/X11R6/lib/firefox/firefox-bin^M > 1230 p1 RV 0:00.00 grep firefox (csh)^M > You probably want something more like this: ps | grep firefox-bin | grep -v grep piping the first output set back into grep -v grep filters out any entry that matches the token "grep", pulling out the one you're trying to avoid= . HTH Lou --=20 Louis LeBlanc FreeBSD@keyslapper.net Fully Funded Hobbyist, KeySlapper Extrordinaire :=FE http://www.keyslapper.net =D4=BF=D4=AC From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Dec 12 16:13:59 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1252D16A41F for ; Mon, 12 Dec 2005 16:13:59 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) Received: from mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com (mail.web-strider.com [65.75.192.90]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D413A43D62 for ; Mon, 12 Dec 2005 16:13:22 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) Received: from tedwin2k (nat-rtr.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [65.75.197.130]) by mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com (8.11.1/8.11.1) with SMTP id jBCGGMb95391; Mon, 12 Dec 2005 08:16:22 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) From: "Ted Mittelstaedt" To: "Michael Vince" , Date: Mon, 12 Dec 2005 08:13:10 -0800 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.6604 (9.0.2911.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1506 In-Reply-To: <439D5E3B.7070000@roq.com> Importance: Normal Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, Kris Kennaway Subject: RE: Freebsd Theme Song X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 12 Dec 2005 16:13:59 -0000 Michael, Fundamentally, here's the problem Danial is claiming exists: it takes a certain amount of time to get the packet clocked in from the network into the ethernet receiver. This is hardware dependent and cannot be changed. It takes a certain amount of time to get the packet out of the hardware in the ethernet card into main ram, this also hardware dependent and cannot be changed. (unless the device driver is terribly inefficient, which we will assume it's not) Once in main ram, the information in the packet has to go through a number of code statements. The more code statements the longer the information in the packet is sitting around in the FreeBSD system's memory. It then takes a certain amount of time to get the information out of main memory into the other sending ethernet nic's buffers, and it takes time to get it out of the sending nic back to the wire. Danial is claiming the slowness is in the main ram section of things, not in the ethernet driver code. polling makes the ethernet driver more efficient at high data rates, but it does nothing for the speed of processing within the TCPIP stack itself. At low data rates polling is less efficient than the interrupt method. And unless the nic driver is terribly inefficient to start with, the time it adds to the packet path in the system is minor compared to the time spent in the TCP/IP stack. Ted >-----Original Message----- >From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org >[mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]On Behalf Of Michael Vince >Sent: Monday, December 12, 2005 3:26 AM >To: danial_thom@yahoo.com >Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Kris Kennaway >Subject: Re: Freebsd Theme Song > > >What about just turning on Polling? >I have polling turned out for a router and all I get is gigabit >performance. >I have tested it with a wire variety of tests from basic fetch tests >from a FreeBSD client box via a FreeBSD router (with polling) to >another FreeBSD box and all I got was gigabit performance in >either 'ab' >tests (would always gave 114megabytes/sec, or even just doing a 'fetch' >of a single 1gig file I could get up to around 90 megabytes/sec >which is >largely file system read performance limited over network performance >limited. > >Its the same with my Samba server sure without polling I get quite >ordinary network performance but when I turn on polling its appears to >be limited by the gigabit cable quality setup and the switch >and quality >of hardware like using Intel em gigabit ethernet devices. > >I agree that networking performance is really important and I do agree >that FreeBSD out of the box doesn't perform as well as it could >in those >areas but there are some solutions for it that fill the gaps >for all the >situations I have faced, I plan to use them for as long as I need till >things like interrupt latencies can be over come. > >People should enjoy FreeBSD for what it is, something thats not holding >you back anywhere, there are countless examples. >There is no one trying to design a system to squeeze money out of you, >their not trying to force you to buy a rpm up2date system. >They aren't holding you down with package choices such as being >stuck on >a old version of apache 2.0.x that just gets 'security' patched and >never gets a version increment so you miss out of performance >improvements of a particualy module of the stable Apache 2.0.x series, >just so they can try and sell you a new version of CD so you can do a >binary upgrade, the list can go forever. >These systems are designed to control you and at the same time limit >your possibilities because they 'fear' loosing that control of you, >FreeBSD has no 'fear' riddled/limiting motivations because it has no >evil intentions, and just like real freedom look at your choices you >get. Fear is the path to the darkside. > >Alright I am going off topic, what I am trying to say is I >think you are >entiled to say what you like, I have sometimes thought in somewhat >similar ways, but I also believe you should try and be happy with what >you get from FreeBSD and if you really want things to move on then one >of the best things that can be done is either raising funds for >developers to work on it or providing code your self. > >Mike > >Danial Thom wrote: > >>Also, since you don't see to understand the test, >>bridging is not routing. Its a rote function of >>moving packets from one interface to another with >>very little overhead. Its purely interrupt >>driven, so the kernel's latencies in processing >>interrupts is well exercised. Its a good test >>because, unlike crap like netperf, it doesn't >>involve sockets or any userland tasks. I know >>you're not a real engineer Kris, so I don't >>expect you to understand, but you also aren't >>qualified to discredit the test, since you don't >>know a damn thing about testing. >> >>I know you enjoy being the one-eyed man in the >>land of the blind on this list Kris, But I doubt >>people are stupid enough to buy into your >>continued propaganda. There isn't one credible >>test that shows that FreeBSD MP is worth any >>consideration as a good performer, so it seems >>doubtful that anyone with half a brain thinks it >>is. >> >>Everything today is networking. What good is a >>fast filesystem if it sits on a klunky kernel or >>slow networking system? Who's going to build a >>big honking MP server if is can't handle more >>network traffic than a good UP system? >> >>Do you have a volkwagon engine in your Porche, >>Kris? The problem with Kris is that he thinks >>that if his car has a really cool radio that >>people will buy it, even those its slow as shit. >>That may be fine for the kind of guys that hang >>out on the freebsd-questions list, or for little >>old ladies. But its not "fine" with the kind of >>people that used to rely on FreeBSD for serious >>networking tasks. >> >>Kris is just a PR front man for a "team" of >>developers that is lost. Their "theory" on how to >>build a better mousetrap for MP is completely >>wrong, and now they're going to try something >>else, using the entire FreeBSD community as >>guinea pigs. First 5.4 was the answer. Then 6.0. >>Now it looks like 6.0 sucks too. Its a damn >>shame. >> >>DT >> > >_______________________________________________ >freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list >http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions >To unsubscribe, send any mail to >"freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > >-- >No virus found in this incoming message. >Checked by AVG Free Edition. >Version: 7.1.371 / Virus Database: 267.13.13/197 - Release >Date: 12/9/2005 > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Dec 12 16:16:58 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2E35616A420 for ; Mon, 12 Dec 2005 16:16:58 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from xfb52@dial.pipex.com) Received: from smtp-out6.blueyonder.co.uk (smtp-out6.blueyonder.co.uk [195.188.213.9]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BBE0043D60 for ; Mon, 12 Dec 2005 16:16:55 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from xfb52@dial.pipex.com) Received: from [82.41.32.173] ([82.41.32.173]) by smtp-out6.blueyonder.co.uk with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.6713); Mon, 12 Dec 2005 16:17:49 +0000 Message-ID: <439DA275.70404@dial.pipex.com> Date: Mon, 12 Dec 2005 16:16:53 +0000 From: Alex Zbyslaw User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-GB; rv:1.7.12) Gecko/20051106 X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Eric Schuele References: <439D9FA3.7030603@computer.org> In-Reply-To: <439D9FA3.7030603@computer.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-OriginalArrivalTime: 12 Dec 2005 16:17:49.0530 (UTC) FILETIME=[986A13A0:01C5FF37] Cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: grep'ping the ps output.... X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 12 Dec 2005 16:16:58 -0000 Eric Schuele wrote: > Hello, > > I am sure this is quite trivial, but... > > I have need to determine if an app (firefox, or anything really) is > already running before I perform some action. So I grep the ps > output. However sometimes (many times) that which I'm searching for > is present in the output because I am presently grep'ing for it. But > it is not always there. It seems to be a bit inconsistent. (See below). > > I was wondering if someone could explain why it is sometimes there and > not other times. And how I should correctly go about detecting if the > process is running before I perform my action. > ps | egrep firefox | egrep -v egrep I can't explain exactly why. It's clearly a timing thing. I guess if the ps runs quickly enough then perhaps the grep hasn't actually been started by the shell. Or if ps iterates over something, then maybe the grep appears in a part of the list that has already been looked at by ps. --Alex From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Dec 12 16:25:54 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7194616A41F for ; Mon, 12 Dec 2005 16:25:54 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from winelfredpasamba@gmail.com) Received: from xproxy.gmail.com (xproxy.gmail.com [66.249.82.202]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E46F043D45 for ; Mon, 12 Dec 2005 16:25:52 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from winelfredpasamba@gmail.com) Received: by xproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id i30so1110539wxd for ; Mon, 12 Dec 2005 08:25:51 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=fRl/l0Vjdz3++b3EMSjq2knYZi8bBr1cV6yGtOW0NjRkd/67gDBqAo62J1h/wvguXEenRxzPpQpVto/3ax6yB9d3nkiX42PtqfYyIGzZQJ9t2FkCgSKo12j0gFy9g2IRqSKZSbA0fHUrFLxDisrwcY5oqrXuluFm2O+AOreWVws= Received: by 10.70.129.20 with SMTP id b20mr9666880wxd; Mon, 12 Dec 2005 08:25:50 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.70.113.6 with HTTP; Mon, 12 Dec 2005 08:25:50 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: Date: Tue, 13 Dec 2005 00:25:50 +0800 From: "Winelfred G. Pasamba" To: Yance Kowara In-Reply-To: <20051212030305.76424.qmail@web30304.mail.mud.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <20051212030305.76424.qmail@web30304.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD router two DSL connections X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 12 Dec 2005 16:25:54 -0000 i use pfSense (www.pfsense.com) pfSense is a open source firewall derived from the m0n0wall operating syste= m platform with radically different goals such as using Packet Filter, FreeBS= D 6.X (or DragonFly BSD when ALTQ and CARP is finished) ALTQ for excellent packet queueing and finally an integrated package management system for extending the environment with new features. then i edit /etc/pf.conf and paste the openbsd pf tutorial for load balancing outgoing traffic ( http://www.openbsd.org/faq/pf/pools.html#outexample) then i pfctl -f /etc/pf.conf and watch the traffic on both WAN interfaces On 12/12/05, Yance Kowara wrote: > > Hi all, > > I am trying to figure out if *BSD can achieve this: > > I have two DSL connections to play with, and I would > like to configure a *BSD router that can combine the > two DSLs together. > > There is a howto at > http://stevenfettig.com/mythoughts/archives/000173.php > > But it concerns OpenBSD and it was for a T1 connection > using a dual T1 card. I would like to configure one on > 2 DSLs connected to two individual NICs. > > Is this feasible at all, or should I just invest in a > dual Wan hardware? > > Kind regards, > > Yance > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around > http://mail.yahoo.com > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to " > freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > -- Seek ye first the kingdom of God and all these things shall be added unto you. Winelfred G. Pasamba Adventist University of the Philippines Computer Science Department, AUP Online Information System From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Dec 12 16:33:53 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0F07216A41F for ; Mon, 12 Dec 2005 16:33:53 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from kirk@daycos.com) Received: from gatekeeper.daycos.com (outbound.daycos.com [204.26.70.70]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E3F8F43D8A for ; Mon, 12 Dec 2005 16:33:47 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from kirk@daycos.com) Received: from janus.daycos.com ([192.168.0.77]) by gatekeeper.daycos.com with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2653.13) id WSKJKR3K; Mon, 12 Dec 2005 10:33:44 -0600 From: Kirk Strauser Organization: The Day Companies To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Mon, 12 Dec 2005 10:33:44 -0600 User-Agent: KMail/1.8.3 References: <439D9FA3.7030603@computer.org> <439DA275.70404@dial.pipex.com> In-Reply-To: <439DA275.70404@dial.pipex.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200512121033.44950.kirk@daycos.com> Subject: Re: grep'ping the ps output.... X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 12 Dec 2005 16:33:53 -0000 On Monday 12 December 2005 10:16, Alex Zbyslaw wrote: > ps | egrep firefox | egrep -v egrep Ouch! Replace that with: ps | grep "[f]irefox" which will never match the grep commandline itself. -- Kirk Strauser The Day Companies From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Dec 12 16:54:15 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2043416A41F for ; Mon, 12 Dec 2005 16:54:15 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from scuba@centroin.com.br) Received: from mdhost1.centroin.com.br (mail-gw1.centroin.com.br [200.225.63.196]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4A4A043D5F for ; Mon, 12 Dec 2005 16:54:13 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from scuba@centroin.com.br) Received: from trex.centroin.com.br (trex.centroin.com.br [200.225.63.134]) by mdhost1.centroin.com.br (8.13.5/8.13.5/CIP SMTP HOST) with ESMTP id jBCGsAOs031680 for ; Mon, 12 Dec 2005 14:54:10 -0200 (BRST) (envelope-from scuba@centroin.com.br) Date: Mon, 12 Dec 2005 14:54:32 -0200 (BRST) From: scuba@centroin.com.br Sender: mpsouza@trex.centroin.com.br To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20051212140121.R54333@trex.centroin.com.br> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Hits: 0.007 X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.54 on 200.225.63.205 Subject: Eterm + intl accents X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 12 Dec 2005 16:54:15 -0000 Hi all, This is an strange behavior. I'm using Eterm (0.9.3) from ports as my terminal client in X (Xorg+gnome2). I've set the language params in login.conf to (:lang=pt-br:), and also set the environment vars in .cshrc as follows: setenv LC_CTYPE pt_BR.ISO8859-1 setenv LESSCHARSET latin1 setenv LC_ALL pt_BR.ISO8859-1 As soon as X is started, I am able to use accented characters in terminal, but when any other application, i.e. Firefox, is started, the accents are not shown any more as I write them. I think it's some thing with keyboard setup, since the display of accented characters are OK. Any help? - Marcelo Souza From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Dec 12 17:00:06 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4DE1B16A41F for ; Mon, 12 Dec 2005 17:00:06 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from e.schuele@computer.org) Received: from rwcrmhc12.comcast.net (rwcrmhc13.comcast.net [204.127.198.39]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C0A5A43D72 for ; Mon, 12 Dec 2005 16:59:54 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from e.schuele@computer.org) Received: from [208.206.151.59] (host59.gtisd.com[208.206.151.59]) by comcast.net (rwcrmhc13) with ESMTP id <2005121216595101500479gne>; Mon, 12 Dec 2005 16:59:51 +0000 Message-ID: <439DAC84.7000601@computer.org> Date: Mon, 12 Dec 2005 10:59:48 -0600 From: Eric Schuele User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.7 (X11/20051204) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Alex Zbyslaw References: <439D9FA3.7030603@computer.org> <439DA275.70404@dial.pipex.com> In-Reply-To: <439DA275.70404@dial.pipex.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: FreeBSD@keyslapper.net, FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: grep'ping the ps output.... X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 12 Dec 2005 17:00:06 -0000 Alex Zbyslaw wrote: > Eric Schuele wrote: > >> Hello, >> >> I am sure this is quite trivial, but... >> >> I have need to determine if an app (firefox, or anything really) is >> already running before I perform some action. So I grep the ps >> output. However sometimes (many times) that which I'm searching for >> is present in the output because I am presently grep'ing for it. But >> it is not always there. It seems to be a bit inconsistent. (See below). >> >> I was wondering if someone could explain why it is sometimes there and >> not other times. And how I should correctly go about detecting if the >> process is running before I perform my action. >> > ps | egrep firefox | egrep -v egrep > Thanks guys. Yes... both solutions do fix the problem. Hmm... guess I should've looked before I lept. I assumed the processes were run in order by the shell... however it appears all are started simultaneously as a group. > I can't explain exactly why. It's clearly a timing thing. I guess if > the ps runs quickly enough then perhaps the grep hasn't actually been > started by the shell. > Or if ps iterates over something, then maybe the > grep appears in a part of the list that has already been looked at by ps. > > --Alex > > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > -- Regards, Eric From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Dec 12 17:00:22 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1465816A41F for ; Mon, 12 Dec 2005 17:00:22 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from lists@webtent.net) Received: from columbus.webtent.org (static-70-110-70-42.tampfl.fios.verizon.net [70.110.70.42]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7474243D82 for ; Mon, 12 Dec 2005 17:00:06 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from lists@webtent.net) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by columbus.webtent.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C9190CFAB5; Mon, 12 Dec 2005 12:00:02 -0500 (EST) From: Robert Fitzpatrick To: "Michael C. Shultz" In-Reply-To: <200512120757.31052.ringworm01@gmail.com> References: <1134397159.6334.21.camel@columbus> <200512120757.31052.ringworm01@gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain Date: Mon, 12 Dec 2005 12:00:02 -0500 Message-Id: <1134406802.6334.33.camel@columbus.webtent.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.2.1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Reaching kern.maxfiles X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: robert@webtent.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 12 Dec 2005 17:00:22 -0000 On Mon, 2005-12-12 at 07:57 -0800, Michael C. Shultz wrote: > On Monday 12 December 2005 06:19, Robert Fitzpatrick wrote: > > Been running this FreeBSD 5.2.1 server since 5.2 was released, never had > > an issue couldn't resolve, especially with the help of this and other > > lists. Now I'm stumped. I posted this issue last week, someone suggested > > I look at: > > > > http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/configtuning-kern > >el-limits.html > > > > The problem with reaching kern.maxfiles started immediately after doing > > several upgrades including Perl 5.8.4 to 5.8.7 and other minor level > > upgrades - Postfix 2.2.3 to 2.2.6, amavisd-new 2.2 to 2.3, SpamAssassin > > 3.0 to 3.1 and others. Since stopping and starting Postfix every 10 > > minutes alliviates the issue, I portdowngraded Postfix, amavisd-new and > > SpamAssassin to previous packages and still reach the kern.maxfiles of > > over 12000 within minutes. > > Downgrading just a few ports doesn't take into account their dependencies, > and if you downgrade the dependencies then other ports that need them will > have problems. > No issues with my downgraded ports, but still the issue with reaching kern.maxfiles, I have located this document, could this still be related to my 5.2.1 kernel? Or, is there a way I could see if this is suspect on my system? http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=58687 -- Robert From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Dec 12 17:04:30 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 45C7F16A41F for ; Mon, 12 Dec 2005 17:04:30 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from e.schuele@computer.org) Received: from sccrmhc13.comcast.net (sccrmhc13.comcast.net [63.240.77.83]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7766F43D98 for ; Mon, 12 Dec 2005 17:04:23 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from e.schuele@computer.org) Received: from [208.206.151.59] (host59.gtisd.com[208.206.151.59]) by comcast.net (sccrmhc13) with ESMTP id <20051212170409013002q3g8e>; Mon, 12 Dec 2005 17:04:13 +0000 Message-ID: <439DAD87.7000307@computer.org> Date: Mon, 12 Dec 2005 11:04:07 -0600 From: Eric Schuele User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.7 (X11/20051204) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Kirk Strauser References: <439D9FA3.7030603@computer.org> <439DA275.70404@dial.pipex.com> <200512121033.44950.kirk@daycos.com> In-Reply-To: <200512121033.44950.kirk@daycos.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: grep'ping the ps output.... X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 12 Dec 2005 17:04:30 -0000 Kirk Strauser wrote: > On Monday 12 December 2005 10:16, Alex Zbyslaw wrote: > > >>ps | egrep firefox | egrep -v egrep > > > Ouch! Replace that with: > > ps | grep "[f]irefox" Ah, yes. Very nice. Thanks. > > which will never match the grep commandline itself. -- Regards, Eric From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Dec 12 17:10:09 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7D94816A420 for ; Mon, 12 Dec 2005 17:10:09 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from mailist@whoweb.com) Received: from whoweb.com (whoweb.com [66.180.172.55]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1AF1743D6E for ; Mon, 12 Dec 2005 17:10:05 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from mailist@whoweb.com) Received: from whoweb.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by whoweb.com (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id jBCHA134068105 for ; Mon, 12 Dec 2005 12:10:01 -0500 (EST) Received: (from mailist@localhost) by whoweb.com (8.12.11/8.12.11/Submit) id jBCHA1Zj068104 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 12 Dec 2005 12:10:01 -0500 (EST) Date: Mon, 12 Dec 2005 12:10:01 -0500 (EST) From: Incoming Mail List Message-Id: <200512121710.jBCHA1Zj068104@whoweb.com> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: mount_smbfs file name problem X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 12 Dec 2005 17:10:09 -0000 I've got a problem with file names containing ":" and "?" characters when mounted via mount_smbfs. I have two FBSD machines running SAMBA. Machine-1 mounts a file system from Machine-2 using mount_smbfs(). The ls() command converts a file name such as XX:YY to something like X~Y. If I run tar() to backup XX:YY, it reports an error (tar: X~Y: no such file or directory). So it appears that when tar() recursively goes down a directory hierarchy and finds the file, it gets the name as X~Y. But when it trys to add the file to the archive, it fails because there is no file on the system with the name X~Y. Is this something that the charsets definition in nsmb.conf can fix? If so, what are the character sets I should use? If not, is there a solution for this issue? Thanks, Jon From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Dec 12 17:11:21 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5CC8D16A41F for ; Mon, 12 Dec 2005 17:11:21 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from freebsd-questions-local@be-well.ilk.org) Received: from mail7.sea5.speakeasy.net (mail7.sea5.speakeasy.net [69.17.117.9]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BE51443D77 for ; Mon, 12 Dec 2005 17:10:57 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from freebsd-questions-local@be-well.ilk.org) Received: (qmail 7771 invoked from network); 12 Dec 2005 17:10:52 -0000 Received: from dsl092-078-145.bos1.dsl.speakeasy.net (HELO be-well.ilk.org) ([66.92.78.145]) (envelope-sender ) by mail7.sea5.speakeasy.net (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for ; 12 Dec 2005 17:10:52 -0000 Received: by be-well.ilk.org (Postfix, from userid 1147) id 52CD928423; Mon, 12 Dec 2005 10:05:00 -0500 (EST) Sender: lowell@be-well.ilk.org To: Rob Lytle References: <20051211105236.396e0f7e.europa100@comcast.net> From: Lowell Gilbert Date: 12 Dec 2005 10:05:00 -0500 In-Reply-To: <20051211105236.396e0f7e.europa100@comcast.net> Message-ID: <44zmn65pb7.fsf@be-well.ilk.org> Lines: 13 User-Agent: Gnus/5.09 (Gnus v5.9.0) Emacs/21.3 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Cc: freebsd Subject: Re: linux-realplayer complains it can't find fonts X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 12 Dec 2005 17:11:21 -0000 Rob Lytle writes: > I installed the linux-realplayer but it complains that it can't find > fonts. I am assuming that it is some TTF. > > I installed the webfonts package but that didn't help. I wonder what > font it is looking for? Do I have to do anything special > in /usr/compat ? It should be getting the fonts from the X server. I seem to recall that configuring the application to use specified fonts helped with this, but it's a long time ago now (and I'm not using it any more). Can you try that? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Dec 12 17:12:05 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 24E6E16A41F for ; Mon, 12 Dec 2005 17:12:05 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: from rosebud.otenet.gr (rosebud.otenet.gr [195.170.0.94]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2295E43D6D for ; Mon, 12 Dec 2005 17:11:54 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: from flame.pc (aris.bedc.ondsl.gr [62.103.39.226]) by rosebud.otenet.gr (8.13.4/8.13.4/Debian-8) with SMTP id jBCHBkGh029090; Mon, 12 Dec 2005 19:11:47 +0200 Received: by flame.pc (Postfix, from userid 1001) id ED7F711459; Mon, 12 Dec 2005 19:10:56 +0200 (EET) Date: Mon, 12 Dec 2005 19:10:56 +0200 From: Giorgos Keramidas To: Eric Schuele Message-ID: <20051212171056.GA4879@flame.pc> References: <439D9FA3.7030603@computer.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <439D9FA3.7030603@computer.org> Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: grep'ping the ps output.... X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 12 Dec 2005 17:12:05 -0000 On 2005-12-12 10:04, Eric Schuele wrote: > Hello, > > I am sure this is quite trivial, but... > > I have need to determine if an app (firefox, or anything really) is > already running before I perform some action. So I grep the ps output. > However sometimes (many times) that which I'm searching for is present > in the output because I am presently grep'ing for it. But it is not > always there. It seems to be a bit inconsistent. (See below). > > I was wondering if someone could explain why it is sometimes there and > not other times. And how I should correctly go about detecting if the > process is running before I perform my action. pgrep(1) is nice for this sort of thing :) > %ps | grep firefox^M^M > 703 v0 I 0:00.00 /bin/sh /usr/X11R6/bin/firefox^M > 722 v0 I 0:00.00 /bin/sh /usr/X11R6/lib/firefox/run-mozilla.sh > /usr/X1^ > M > 734 v0 S 0:10.92 /usr/X11R6/lib/firefox/firefox-bin^M > %ps | grep firefox^M^M > 703 v0 I 0:00.00 /bin/sh /usr/X11R6/bin/firefox^M > 722 v0 I 0:00.00 /bin/sh /usr/X11R6/lib/firefox/run-mozilla.sh > /usr/X1^ A similar thing with pgrep(1) works as expected: % flame:/home/keramida$ for count in 1 2 3 4 5 ; do % > pgrep firefox ; echo ; sleep 1 ; done % 1470 % % 1470 % % 1470 % % 1470 % % 1470 % % flame:/home/keramida$ for count in 1 2 3 4 5 ; do % > pgrep -l firefox ; echo ; sleep 1 ; done % 1470 firefox-bin % % 1470 firefox-bin % % 1470 firefox-bin % % 1470 firefox-bin % % 1470 firefox-bin % % flame:/home/keramida$ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Dec 12 17:30:36 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9282416A427 for ; Mon, 12 Dec 2005 17:30:36 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ringworm01@gmail.com) Received: from xproxy.gmail.com (xproxy.gmail.com [66.249.82.197]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3537543D5F for ; Mon, 12 Dec 2005 17:30:35 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ringworm01@gmail.com) Received: by xproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id i30so1122329wxd for ; Mon, 12 Dec 2005 09:30:34 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:from:to:subject:date:user-agent:cc:references:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:message-id; b=FGERsgUGaYzIdILB5e//BRIfMvEwTVGDcA51QQ5pkvgQfZjm0cBV82ehAHI94UySNoSGngEdpA8/Rje6XNDydZwU10jdopNSidfnW7LQxavf3isr/ClnrarvlH8uiHY6I0d5wBUGz5eTWH4UIEXd92rqGyuN9G8U9WD+VLs6ALQ= Received: by 10.70.125.10 with SMTP id x10mr9502644wxc; Mon, 12 Dec 2005 09:30:34 -0800 (PST) Received: from ringworm.mechee.com ( [71.102.14.129]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id h34sm10414859wxd.2005.12.12.09.30.33; Mon, 12 Dec 2005 09:30:34 -0800 (PST) From: "Michael C. Shultz" To: robert@webtent.com Date: Mon, 12 Dec 2005 09:30:30 -0800 User-Agent: KMail/1.8.3 References: <1134397159.6334.21.camel@columbus> <200512120757.31052.ringworm01@gmail.com> <1134406802.6334.33.camel@columbus.webtent.org> In-Reply-To: <1134406802.6334.33.camel@columbus.webtent.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-6" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200512120930.31536.ringworm01@gmail.com> Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Reaching kern.maxfiles X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 12 Dec 2005 17:30:36 -0000 On Monday 12 December 2005 09:00, Robert Fitzpatrick wrote: > On Mon, 2005-12-12 at 07:57 -0800, Michael C. Shultz wrote: > > On Monday 12 December 2005 06:19, Robert Fitzpatrick wrote: > > > Been running this FreeBSD 5.2.1 server since 5.2 was released, never > > > had an issue couldn't resolve, especially with the help of this and > > > other lists. Now I'm stumped. I posted this issue last week, someone > > > suggested I look at: > > > > > > http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/configtuning- > > >kern el-limits.html > > > > > > The problem with reaching kern.maxfiles started immediately after doing > > > several upgrades including Perl 5.8.4 to 5.8.7 and other minor level > > > upgrades - Postfix 2.2.3 to 2.2.6, amavisd-new 2.2 to 2.3, SpamAssassin > > > 3.0 to 3.1 and others. Since stopping and starting Postfix every 10 > > > minutes alliviates the issue, I portdowngraded Postfix, amavisd-new and > > > SpamAssassin to previous packages and still reach the kern.maxfiles of > > > over 12000 within minutes. > > > > Downgrading just a few ports doesn't take into account their > > dependencies, and if you downgrade the dependencies then other ports that > > need them will have problems. > > No issues with my downgraded ports, but still the issue with reaching > kern.maxfiles, I have located this document, could this still be related > to my 5.2.1 kernel? Or, is there a way I could see if this is suspect on > my system? > > http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=58687 > > -- > Robert I think changing kern.maxfiles is a bad idea unless you have a very good reason, you would just be covering up the real problem. You didn't say how you ran lsof, what does lsof -p {posfix pid} look like? One mail box on my system postfix opens about 50 files, how many mail boxes on your system? The PR you mentioned applies to libc_r, if I recall libc_r isn't supposed to be used in FreeBSD 5.* On my 5.4 system here is the libraries being used by postfix: master 473 root txt VREG 4,26 129041 3984706 /usr/local/libexec/postfix/master master 473 root txt VREG 4,12 152700 495144 /libexec/ld-elf.so.1 master 473 root txt VREG 4,26 229823 3768403 /usr/local/lib/libsasl2.so.2 master 473 root txt VREG 4,26 28040 5700906 /usr/lib/libpam.so.2 master 473 root txt VREG 4,12 32740 211974 /lib/libcrypt.so.2 master 473 root txt VREG 4,26 216480 3768737 /usr/local/lib/libpcre.so.0 master 473 root txt VREG 4,12 966792 213219 /lib/libc.so.5 If your system was mine here is what I would do first: Make sure there is no /etc/libmap.conf to make sure all dependencies are corectly built: portmanager mail/postfix -f -l Above I would just do because I was curious if it could be fixed, but then I would upgrade to 5.4 STABLE or 5.4 RELEASE then portmanager -u -f -l to make sure all ports were built against the correct system libraries. My earlier point about downgrading specific ports is still valid in your case, sometime doing that just creates new problems because your dependencies are mismatched. -Mike From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Dec 12 17:30:41 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2F8F816A420 for ; Mon, 12 Dec 2005 17:30:41 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) Received: from mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com (mail.web-strider.com [65.75.192.90]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3DF4B43D5F for ; Mon, 12 Dec 2005 17:30:40 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) Received: from tedwin2k (nat-rtr.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [65.75.197.130]) by mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com (8.11.1/8.11.1) with SMTP id jBCHSjb95726; Mon, 12 Dec 2005 09:28:46 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) From: "Ted Mittelstaedt" To: "Yance Kowara" , Date: Mon, 12 Dec 2005 09:25:33 -0800 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.6604 (9.0.2911.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1506 In-Reply-To: <20051212123230.7348.qmail@web30301.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Importance: Normal Cc: Subject: RE: FreeBSD router two DSL connections X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 12 Dec 2005 17:30:41 -0000 >-----Original Message----- >From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org >[mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]On Behalf Of Yance Kowara >Sent: Monday, December 12, 2005 4:33 AM >To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org >Subject: Re: FreeBSD router two DSL connections > > > > >--- Eric F Crist wrote: > >> On Dec 12, 2005, at 2:05 AM, Yance Kowara wrote: >> >> > Ted, >> > >> > Thanks for the advice. >> > >> > A friend of mine has just acquired an Internet >> Cafe. >> > The previous owner connected the lan to 2 >> different >> > ADSL (two different ISPs) one is a back up he >> said. >> > >> > So, two ADSL routers with half the Lan connected >> to >> > one router and another half to the other router. >> > >> > I am just thingking of a way to optimise the >> > connection and came accross Steven's article. I >> > thought I could do something similar with *BSD + >> pf. >> > >> > There is such thing as Dual Wan ADSL router: >> > http://www.infosmart.com.tw/p-ndr3024.htm >> > >> > However, they are quite pricey compare to setting >> up a >> > *BSD box (using old readily available hardware). >> > >> > >> > So, if this load balancing idea does not work, any >> > other thing I can do to optimise two DSLs? >> > >> > I also came accross this (linux way): >> > >> >http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/Adv-Routing-HOWTO/lartc.rpdb.multiple- >> >> > links.html >> > >> > Is this worth trying? >> > >> > Kind regards, >> >> Yance, >> >> The reason, without a pretty heavily involved >> configuration, this >> won't work is packet routing. Unless you're using >> BGP, Border >> Gateway Protocol, you're not going to reliably route >> return packets >> to any interface other than the interface it was >> transmitted from. >> I'm guessing that the dual-wan device you speak of >> handles some >> things differently. Something like a large file >> download is going to >> fail to utilize the full bandwidth, however, because >> of the nature of >> the traffic. If you really need to boost network >> bandwidth, you're >> going to be forced into either working directly with >> an ISP to link >> multiple DSL channels, or, more likely, obtain >> business-class service >> over a T1/T3 setup. >> >> HTH >> ----- >> Eric F Crist >> Secure Computing Networks >> http://www.secure-computing.net >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list >> >http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions >> To unsubscribe, send any mail to >> "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" >> > >Hmmmmmm, what about putting zebra into the picture ... >a solution or chaos? > What feature in Zebra exactly do you think will help in this scenario? Ted From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Dec 12 17:30:45 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C3A5216A41F for ; Mon, 12 Dec 2005 17:30:45 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from list-freebsd-2004@morbius.sent.com) Received: from out4.smtp.messagingengine.com (out4.smtp.messagingengine.com [66.111.4.28]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8F8E443D58 for ; Mon, 12 Dec 2005 17:30:44 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from list-freebsd-2004@morbius.sent.com) Received: from frontend1.internal (mysql-sessions.internal [10.202.2.149]) by frontend1.messagingengine.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id F3027D23CBF for ; Mon, 12 Dec 2005 12:30:42 -0500 (EST) Received: from frontend2.messagingengine.com ([10.202.2.151]) by frontend1.internal (MEProxy); Mon, 12 Dec 2005 12:30:42 -0500 X-Sasl-enc: 5Ccd0DBJuQ+vtd+F3nD+CRYZwQ1t0BOUZI2V1VaKoo2O 1134408641 Received: from gumby.localdomain (88-104-200-164.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com [88.104.200.164]) by frontend2.messagingengine.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4CB795713C0 for ; Mon, 12 Dec 2005 12:30:41 -0500 (EST) From: RW To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Mon, 12 Dec 2005 17:30:30 +0000 User-Agent: KMail/1.8.3 References: <200512110916.28583.no-spam@swiftdsl.com.au> <200512120210.17457.list-freebsd-2004@morbius.sent.com> <200512111954.34923.kstewart@owt.com> In-Reply-To: <200512111954.34923.kstewart@owt.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-6" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200512121730.31382.list-freebsd-2004@morbius.sent.com> Subject: Re: Removing a port without upsetting dependencies X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 12 Dec 2005 17:30:45 -0000 On Monday 12 December 2005 03:54, Kent Stewart wrote: > On Sunday 11 December 2005 06:10 pm, RW wrote: > > On Saturday 10 December 2005 22:46, Ian Moore wrote: > > > Hi, > > > I have mplayer installed and at one stage I installed the > > > mplayer-skins port as well. Then I got sick of dealing with the > > > skins port being broken a lot because the source files are often > > > unfetchable, so I removed the port (I can't remember what method I > > > used to do that now). > > > > A much better solution is to: > > > > cd /usr/ports/multimedia/mplayer-skins && make config > > > > then deselect everything, but the default skin. > > > > Since I did that I haven't had any problem with unfetchable skins. > > If you go into distfiles/mplayer and rm all of the files that are out of > date, you won't have any problem either. IIRC, the names haven't > changed but the MD5 and sizes have and it won't refetch them until you > remove them. The skins aren't broken. There is something slightly out > of whack with the Makefile. > > There may be an easier way but cd and rm * works just fine. I've deleted the skin distfiles on several occasions and it's never been anything more that a one-off fix to problems with mismatched checksums for me. All of the current files are datastamped 25-Mar-2005, so it's probably just the case that the mplayer maintainers have stopped messing with them. Occasional checksum problems can be down to the porter, but recurring problems are usually down to sloppy version control by the original maintainers. Also, if you look at http://www.mplayerhq.hu/MPlayer/Skin/ there is only one version of each skin which is probably why these things are sometimes unfetchable. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Dec 12 17:35:03 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E2C3116A420 for ; Mon, 12 Dec 2005 17:35:02 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from rmarella@gmail.com) Received: from ms-smtp-02-eri0.socal.rr.com (ms-smtp-02-qfe0.socal.rr.com [66.75.162.134]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CA72B43D7F for ; Mon, 12 Dec 2005 17:34:51 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from rmarella@gmail.com) Received: from frankie.konav201.local (cpe-66-8-187-40.hawaii.res.rr.com [66.8.187.40]) by ms-smtp-02-eri0.socal.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id jBCHYjDp019016; Mon, 12 Dec 2005 09:34:46 -0800 (PST) Date: Mon, 12 Dec 2005 07:34:44 -1000 From: Robert Marella To: "Keith Bottner" Message-ID: <20051212073444.701d30a7@frankie.konav201.local> In-Reply-To: <014901c5ff28$2174bac0$1801a8c0@Stile> References: <20051209162735.574015bc@frankie.konav201.local> <014901c5ff28$2174bac0$1801a8c0@Stile> X-Mailer: Sylpheed-Claws 1.9.100 (GTK+ 2.8.9; i386-portbld-freebsd6.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Virus-Scanned: Symantec AntiVirus Scan Engine Cc: 'FreeBSD Questions' Subject: Re: Detect hardware changes X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 12 Dec 2005 17:35:03 -0000 On Mon, 12 Dec 2005 08:27:06 -0600 "Keith Bottner" wrote: > >=20 > > On Thu, Dec 08, 2005 at 12:02:25PM -0900, Peter Giessel wrote: > > > On 12/8/2005 11:51, Keith Bottner seems to have typed: > > > > skc0@pci2:9:0: class=3D0x020000 card=3D0x00241737 chip=3D0x1032173= 7=20 > > > > rev=3D0x10 hdr=3D0x00 > > > > vendor =3D 'Linksys' > > > > device =3D 'EG1032 Gigabit Ethernet' > > > > class =3D network > > > > subclass =3D ethernet > > >=20 >=20 > Ifconfig does not show skc0 but here is the output for completeness: >=20 > xl0: flags=3D8843 mtu 1500 > options=3D9 > inet 192.168.1.217 netmask 0xffffff00 broadcast 192.168.1.255 > inet6 fe80::2b0:d0ff:fe16:3d30%xl0 prefixlen 64 scopeid 0x1=20 > ether 00:b0:d0:16:3d:30 > media: Ethernet autoselect (100baseTX ) > status: active > lo0: flags=3D8049 mtu 16384 > inet 127.0.0.1 netmask 0xff000000=20 > inet6 ::1 prefixlen 128=20 > inet6 fe80::1%lo0 prefixlen 64 scopeid 0x2=20 >=20 > And rc.conf is: >=20 > defaultrouter=3D"192.168.1.1" > hostname=3D"gsdev.bltmobile.com" > ifconfig_xl0=3D"inet 192.168.1.217 netmask 255.255.255.0" > ifconfig_skc0=3D"inet 10.0.130.204 netmask 255.255.255.0" > linux_enable=3D"YES" > moused_enable=3D"YES" > sshd_enable=3D"YES" > usbd_enable=3D"YES" > postgresql_enable=3D"YES" >=20 > Anything else that I can send that will help? >=20 > Keith Hello Keith I'm not sure I can be of any help. I have an older Asus board (2years) that uses an onboard sk card. Here is the output from my machine skc0@pci2:5:0: class=3D0x020000 card=3D0x80eb1043 chip=3D0x170010b7 rev=3D= 0x12 hdr=3D0x00 vendor =3D '3COM Corp, Networking Division' device =3D '3C940 and 3C2000 Gigabit Ethernet PCI CODEC?' class =3D network subclass =3D ethernet Mine is 3COM while yours is Linksys. [robert@p4] ~> grep sk /var/run/dmesg.boot skc0: <3Com 3C940 Gigabit Ethernet> port 0xd800-0xd8ff mem 0xfeafc000-0xfeafffff irq 22 at device 5.0 on pci2 skc0: 3Com Gigabit LOM (3C940) rev. (0x1) sk0: on skc0 sk0: Ethernet address: 00:0c:6e:91:de:a6 miibus0: on sk0 The mii bus is shown here and unless you have removed it from your kernel it would be automatic. =46rom rc.conf defaultrouter=3D"10.0.0.1" hostname=3D"p4.konav201.local" ifconfig_sk0=3D"inet 10.0.0.103 media 100baseTX mediaopt full-duplex netmask 255.255.255.0" Notice that it is sk0 _not_ skc0. AFAIK this is not your problem but it should be changed in your rc.conf file. Except for an occasional "watchdog" it is working fine. I google'd for your error "rid 0x10 is ioport" but didn't see any solutions. There was some reference to ACPI so it might be something to try.=20 BTW I am running 6 Stable. I hope this helps. Good luck Robert From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Dec 12 18:34:20 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A39E216A41F for ; Mon, 12 Dec 2005 18:34:20 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from dm@mainframe.ca) Received: from wale.mainframe.ca (wale.mainframe.ca [209.17.131.74]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7390143D68 for ; Mon, 12 Dec 2005 18:34:19 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from dm@mainframe.ca) Received: from jupiter.mainframe.ca ([10.0.0.12] helo=mail.mainframe.ca) by wale.mainframe.ca with esmtp (Exim 4.54 (FreeBSD)) id 1ElsV8-000Lo9-9l; Mon, 12 Dec 2005 10:34:18 -0800 Received: from [172.16.139.102] (helo=Mandarin-04) by mail.mainframe.ca with esmtp (Exim 4.60 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1ElsPR-000M4K-TB; Mon, 12 Dec 2005 10:28:25 -0800 From: Derrick MacPherson To: Khaled Hussein In-Reply-To: <20051212064447.4F67C43D5E@mx1.FreeBSD.org> References: <20051212064447.4F67C43D5E@mx1.FreeBSD.org> Content-Type: text/plain Date: Mon, 12 Dec 2005 10:34:17 -0800 Message-Id: <1134412457.31377.9.camel@mandarin-04> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.0.2 (2.0.2-22) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Exim Question X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 12 Dec 2005 18:34:20 -0000 you could create an alias, or a mailing list (mailman) and email it On Mon, 2005-12-12 at 08:44 +0200, Khaled Hussein wrote: > Hi All > > > > i am new to this group and i hope I can find answer for my question, > > > > I want to send mail from my Mail server to a list of emails on different > domains I stored the list in text file and I tried this command > > > > Exim -fme@mydomain.com emails.txt < msg.txt but > I got a delivery error that the emails.txt@myserver does not exist > > > > I want the software to read every email in the file so what should I do > > > > Please if any one have an idea give it to me please > > > > Thanks in advance > > d > > > > ********************************** > Khaled J. Hussein > System Administrator > Palnet Communications Ltd. > Hadara Technologies > http://www.palnet.com > khaled@palnet.com > Tel.02/2403434. Fax.02/2403430 > ********************************** > > > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Dec 12 18:42:11 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CEA0216A41F for ; Mon, 12 Dec 2005 18:42:11 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from kdk@daleco.biz) Received: from ezekiel.daleco.biz (southernuniform.com [66.76.92.18]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 37F7443D5A for ; Mon, 12 Dec 2005 18:42:10 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from kdk@daleco.biz) Received: from [192.168.2.2] ([69.27.149.254]) by ezekiel.daleco.biz (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id jBCIeqIU037652; Mon, 12 Dec 2005 12:41:15 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from kdk@daleco.biz) Message-ID: <439DC428.9060105@daleco.biz> Date: Mon, 12 Dec 2005 12:40:40 -0600 From: Kevin Kinsey User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.7.12) Gecko/20051026 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Sasa Stupar References: <000601c5ff28$9fb71e00$46933c50@Medion> <20051212144948.GB2325@flame.pc> <17309.37575.337162.532084@jerusalem.litteratus.org> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Slices X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 12 Dec 2005 18:42:12 -0000 Sasa Stupar wrote: > You can also do the same as I did. I have just configured one slice > named / which > takes all the space on hdd and now I don't need to worry about space > shortage. OK then, but suppose we have some runaway process logging errors to syslogd at some absurb rate (n per second). Suppose you aren't sitting at the console or some terminal running "df -h" at the moment. Maybe it's that somebody came into the office on Saturday and the line printer was off-line, but they didn't know it and sent it a job. Or, perhaps someone backs up a big bunch of stuff to some NFS or SMBFS mount point that happens to not be mounted at the time because some secretary turned off her box or a janitor ran a mop over some plug somewhere. Maybe your 'Net connection, on one side or the other, takes a nose dive, but things appear OK locally, and John in marketing finishes up the latest sales e-mail and sends it to all 250,000 potential clients. Perhaps a junior sysadmin decides to use his homedir as a temporary FTP repository for his mp3 collection, while he's headed to Mom and Dad's for the holidays, and forgets that he's got a tree of movies in that dir as well. There are several possibilities, and sooner or later, somewhere, someone will get caught be by one of them. Suppose then that syslogd fills up /var/log/ by writting a gazillion MB to messages ( ... messages0, messages1 ... messages n) and, for whatever reason, say, it's not time, newsyslog hasn't rotated the logfiles yet. Or Sendmail panics because it can't write to the spool, 'cause it's full (and then starts writing error messages to syslogd....) What I'm saying is: before you can know it, once in a while, your / (in the setup you describe) can end up with no space left. How will you recover now? Your hard disk is full; if you are fortunate, you'll be able to get up in single-user from the console. Of course, you could be a thousand miles away.... That's why my /var is seperate from my / .... There may be someone who can shoot my scenario relatively full of holes, but there *was* a reason why we have a recommended paritioning scheme with a seperate /, /var, /usr, and so on, and I'm not at all sure that it's time to abandon it entirely. My $0.02, Kevin Kinsey -- I need another lawyer like I need another hole in my head. -- Fratianno From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Dec 12 18:47:42 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DB47116A41F for ; Mon, 12 Dec 2005 18:47:42 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jmlewis@dslextreme.com) Received: from mail2.dslextreme.com (mail2.dslextreme.com [66.51.199.52]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 11C2B43D6A for ; Mon, 12 Dec 2005 18:47:41 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jmlewis@dslextreme.com) Received: (qmail 24180 invoked from network); 12 Dec 2005 18:42:08 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO www.dslextreme.com) (192.168.7.122) by mail2.dslextreme.com with SMTP; Mon, 12 Dec 2005 10:42:08 -0800 Message-ID: <1f0cea6f074a11683a5c35ca.20051212104741.wzyrjvf@www.dslextreme.com> Date: Mon, 12 Dec 2005 10:47:41 -0800 (PST) From: "Joshua Lewis" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org User-Agent: DSL Extreme Webmail (www.dslextreme.com) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 Importance: Normal Subject: SCP! X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: jmlewis@dslextreme.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 12 Dec 2005 18:47:43 -0000 >From what i gather scp is a pull type method (for lack of a better term) I use scp from the computer I want the data pulled to. My problem is I am at a Windows XP system using putty and I can't "pull" the data because putty signs me into the freebsd system. So if I were to use SCP I would be pulling to the freebsd system becuase I am signed in with Putty right? So how do I sign on to freebsd and then scp the folder to the windows machine? more like a push. Any thoughts? Sorry if I seem abrupt I in a bit of a pickle. Thank you, Joshua Lewis From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Dec 12 18:59:10 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E26D716A41F for ; Mon, 12 Dec 2005 18:59:10 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from swhetzel@gmail.com) Received: from xproxy.gmail.com (xproxy.gmail.com [66.249.82.204]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8CF4C43D49 for ; Mon, 12 Dec 2005 18:59:09 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from swhetzel@gmail.com) Received: by xproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id t11so1037061wxc for ; Mon, 12 Dec 2005 10:59:08 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=JOu5aykz3DmuaM+k1JArDn9Y1zIvzj8OG61zCyEYGTMOyv4ug/9tvgF+LQJ5OxlaD8hb6ReZ5o9sHh6Jn/hI4YWgeQY3LqT4Jag5dqEcEU/2hCCbywrh8d40ozcx4nviXeQZeISBCHfJrPWA4XyFU/PU7gzjEBsqsHkJRiuEJN8= Received: by 10.70.100.17 with SMTP id x17mr8671801wxb; Mon, 12 Dec 2005 10:59:08 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.70.31.5 with HTTP; Mon, 12 Dec 2005 10:59:07 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <790a9fff0512121059y73d97f2eub06e88f77a63461c@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 12 Dec 2005 12:59:07 -0600 From: Scot Hetzel To: martinko In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline References: Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Subject: Re: pkgtools.conf make arguments ignored (?!?) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 12 Dec 2005 18:59:11 -0000 On 12/11/05, martinko wrote: > hello, > > i'm having troubles with specifying make arguments to portupgrade via > /usr/local/etc/pkgtools.conf. > this is a part of my config file: > > MAKE_ARGS =3D { > 'x11/yelp' =3D> 'WITH_MAN=3D1 WITH_INFO=3D1 WITH_GECKO=3Dmozilla', > } > > it works only if i run `portupgrade -N yelp` > but it does not work when i run eg `portupgrade -N gnome2-lite` > > interesting thing is that according to pkgtools.conf itself the > following should work too but it does not : > > MAKE_ARGS =3D { > 'x11/yelp-*' =3D> 'WITH_MAN=3D1 WITH_INFO=3D1 WITH_GECKO=3Dmozilla', > } > > is this a known issue (and why?) or am i doing something wrong ?? > Do you have an entry in the MAKE_ARGS for x11/gnome2-lite? As your example doesn't show an entry for it. Scot -- DISCLAIMER: No electrons were mamed while sending this message. Only slightly bruised. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Dec 12 19:05:27 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8D8FA16A41F for ; Mon, 12 Dec 2005 19:05:27 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: from rosebud.otenet.gr (rosebud.otenet.gr [195.170.0.94]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4F0A143D5D for ; Mon, 12 Dec 2005 19:05:24 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: from flame.pc (aris.bedc.ondsl.gr [62.103.39.226]) by rosebud.otenet.gr (8.13.4/8.13.4/Debian-8) with SMTP id jBCJ5J10024323; Mon, 12 Dec 2005 21:05:20 +0200 Received: by flame.pc (Postfix, from userid 1001) id A312C1144C; Mon, 12 Dec 2005 21:04:29 +0200 (EET) Date: Mon, 12 Dec 2005 21:04:29 +0200 From: Giorgos Keramidas To: Joshua Lewis Message-ID: <20051212190429.GA6339@flame.pc> References: <1f0cea6f074a11683a5c35ca.20051212104741.wzyrjvf@www.dslextreme.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <1f0cea6f074a11683a5c35ca.20051212104741.wzyrjvf@www.dslextreme.com> Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: SCP! X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 12 Dec 2005 19:05:27 -0000 On 2005-12-12 10:47, Joshua Lewis wrote: > From what i gather scp is a pull type method (for lack of a better > term) I use scp from the computer I want the data pulled to. > > My problem is I am at a Windows XP system using putty and I can't > "pull" the data because putty signs me into the freebsd system. So if > I were to use SCP I would be pulling to the freebsd system becuase I > am signed in with Putty right? > > So how do I sign on to freebsd and then scp the folder to the windows > machine? more like a push. You use PSCP.EXE instead of PUTTY.EXE from a Windows' "cmd" prompt. That's probably awful, if you're looking for something with fancy, colourful GUI buttons, but it has certainly saved my a$$ a few times :) From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Dec 12 19:07:43 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EBEC716A41F for ; Mon, 12 Dec 2005 19:07:43 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jimmy@jamesbailie.com) Received: from smtp103.rog.mail.re2.yahoo.com (smtp103.rog.mail.re2.yahoo.com [206.190.36.81]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 0F1B443D92 for ; Mon, 12 Dec 2005 19:07:34 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jimmy@jamesbailie.com) Received: (qmail 11681 invoked from network); 12 Dec 2005 19:07:31 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?70.29.126.205?) (jazzturk@rogers.com@70.29.126.205 with plain) by smtp103.rog.mail.re2.yahoo.com with SMTP; 12 Dec 2005 19:07:31 -0000 Message-ID: <439DCA72.30706@jamesbailie.com> Date: Mon, 12 Dec 2005 14:07:30 -0500 From: James Bailie User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.7 (X11/20051112) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: jmlewis@dslextreme.com References: <1f0cea6f074a11683a5c35ca.20051212104741.wzyrjvf@www.dslextreme.com> In-Reply-To: <1f0cea6f074a11683a5c35ca.20051212104741.wzyrjvf@www.dslextreme.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: SCP! X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 12 Dec 2005 19:07:44 -0000 Joshua Lewis wrote: > So how do I sign on to freebsd and then scp the folder to the windows > machine? more like a push. scp can push or pull. You just don't have a sshd running on your windows machine, so pushing back to it isn't possible. What you want is a version of sftp or scp for Windows, to allow you to pull from the remote host. On the PuTTY website, two such tools are available, pftp and pscp. You can download them here: distribution.http://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~sgtatham/putty/download.html -- James Bailie http://www.jamesbailie.com From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Dec 12 19:08:16 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BCCBB16A4D5 for ; Mon, 12 Dec 2005 19:08:16 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from nvidican@wmptl.com) Received: from wmptl.net (fw1.wmptl.com [216.8.159.129]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B15FD43D5D for ; Mon, 12 Dec 2005 19:08:13 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from nvidican@wmptl.com) Received: from [10.0.0.104] (r3140ca.wmptl.net [10.0.0.104]) by wmptl.net (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id jBCJ8CcM056791; Mon, 12 Dec 2005 14:08:12 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from nvidican@wmptl.com) Message-ID: <439DCA9C.4090101@wmptl.com> Date: Mon, 12 Dec 2005 14:08:12 -0500 From: Nathan Vidican User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.6 (X11/20050716) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Ted Mittelstaedt References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Score: 0.111 () RATWR10_MESSID X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.44 Cc: yance_kowara@yahoo.com, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD router two DSL connections X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 12 Dec 2005 19:08:17 -0000 Ted Mittelstaedt wrote: > >>-----Original Message----- >>From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org >>[mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]On Behalf Of Yance Kowara >>Sent: Monday, December 12, 2005 4:33 AM >>To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org >>Subject: Re: FreeBSD router two DSL connections >> >> >> >> >>--- Eric F Crist wrote: >> >> >>>On Dec 12, 2005, at 2:05 AM, Yance Kowara wrote: >>> >>> >>>>Ted, >>>> >>>>Thanks for the advice. >>>> >>>>A friend of mine has just acquired an Internet >>> >>>Cafe. >>> >>>>The previous owner connected the lan to 2 >>> >>>different >>> >>>>ADSL (two different ISPs) one is a back up he >>> >>>said. >>> >>>>So, two ADSL routers with half the Lan connected >>> >>>to >>> >>>>one router and another half to the other router. >>>> >>>>I am just thingking of a way to optimise the >>>>connection and came accross Steven's article. I >>>>thought I could do something similar with *BSD + >>> >>>pf. >>> >>>>There is such thing as Dual Wan ADSL router: >>>>http://www.infosmart.com.tw/p-ndr3024.htm >>>> >>>>However, they are quite pricey compare to setting >>> >>>up a >>> >>>>*BSD box (using old readily available hardware). >>>> >>>> >>>>So, if this load balancing idea does not work, any >>>>other thing I can do to optimise two DSLs? >>>> >>>>I also came accross this (linux way): >>>> >>> >>http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/Adv-Routing-HOWTO/lartc.rpdb.multiple- >> >>>>links.html >>>> >>>>Is this worth trying? >>>> >>>>Kind regards, >>> >>>Yance, >>> >>>The reason, without a pretty heavily involved >>>configuration, this >>>won't work is packet routing. Unless you're using >>>BGP, Border >>>Gateway Protocol, you're not going to reliably route >>>return packets >>>to any interface other than the interface it was >>>transmitted from. >>>I'm guessing that the dual-wan device you speak of >>>handles some >>>things differently. Something like a large file >>>download is going to >>>fail to utilize the full bandwidth, however, because >>>of the nature of >>>the traffic. If you really need to boost network >>>bandwidth, you're >>>going to be forced into either working directly with >>>an ISP to link >>>multiple DSL channels, or, more likely, obtain >>>business-class service >>>over a T1/T3 setup. >>> >>>HTH >>>----- >>>Eric F Crist >>>Secure Computing Networks >>>http://www.secure-computing.net >>> >>> >>> >>>_______________________________________________ >>>freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list >>> >> >>http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions >> >>>To unsubscribe, send any mail to >>>"freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" >>> >> >>Hmmmmmm, what about putting zebra into the picture ... >>a solution or chaos? >> > > > What feature in Zebra exactly do you think will help in > this scenario? > > Ted > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > You could, if the purpose is to combine bandwidth accross multiple DSL links, use multi-link PPP, afaik - the only way to do so is through mpd (/usr/ports/net/mpd) ... not catch the whole thread, so feel free to correct me if wrong, mpd should work for you. -- Nathan Vidican nvidican@wmptl.com Windsor Match Plate & Tool Ltd. http://www.wmptl.com/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Dec 12 19:13:32 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8651916A434 for ; Mon, 12 Dec 2005 19:13:32 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from rmarella@gmail.com) Received: from ms-smtp-03-eri0.socal.rr.com (ms-smtp-03-qfe0.socal.rr.com [66.75.162.135]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 812B543DD2 for ; Mon, 12 Dec 2005 19:12:34 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from rmarella@gmail.com) Received: from frankie.konav201.local (cpe-66-8-187-40.hawaii.res.rr.com [66.8.187.40]) by ms-smtp-03-eri0.socal.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id jBCJBXV7021534; Mon, 12 Dec 2005 11:11:34 -0800 (PST) Date: Mon, 12 Dec 2005 09:11:32 -1000 From: Robert Marella To: Kevin Kinsey Message-ID: <20051212091132.6b7e52cc@frankie.konav201.local> In-Reply-To: <439DC428.9060105@daleco.biz> References: <000601c5ff28$9fb71e00$46933c50@Medion> <20051212144948.GB2325@flame.pc> <17309.37575.337162.532084@jerusalem.litteratus.org> <439DC428.9060105@daleco.biz> X-Mailer: Sylpheed-Claws 1.9.100 (GTK+ 2.8.9; i386-portbld-freebsd6.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: Symantec AntiVirus Scan Engine Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Slices X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 12 Dec 2005 19:13:33 -0000 On Mon, 12 Dec 2005 12:40:40 -0600 Kevin Kinsey wrote: > Sasa Stupar wrote: > > > You can also do the same as I did. I have just configured one slice > > named / which > > takes all the space on hdd and now I don't need to worry about > > space shortage. > > > OK then, but suppose we have some runaway process > > My $0.02, Worth every penny! :-) Thank you Kevin Robert From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Dec 12 19:14:05 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7296616A423 for ; Mon, 12 Dec 2005 19:14:05 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from europa100@comcast.net) Received: from sccrmhc13.comcast.net (sccrmhc13.comcast.net [204.127.202.64]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 63D5B43D8D for ; Mon, 12 Dec 2005 19:13:52 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from europa100@comcast.net) Received: from lm741n.had1.or.comcast.net. (c-24-20-8-31.hsd1.or.comcast.net[24.20.8.31]) by comcast.net (sccrmhc13) with SMTP id <20051212191347013003mj3oe>; Mon, 12 Dec 2005 19:13:47 +0000 Date: Mon, 12 Dec 2005 11:13:36 -0800 From: Rob Lytle To: freebsd Message-Id: <20051212111336.2ab7cd58.europa100@comcast.net> X-Mailer: Sylpheed version 2.0.0 (GTK+ 2.6.9; i386-portbld-freebsd6.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Firefox 1.5_5.1 now crashed system on startup X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 12 Dec 2005 19:14:05 -0000 I am using FreeBSD 6.0 release and Firefox 1.5_5.1. With my old kernel which did not have SMP and hyperthreading enabled, it would just run the cpu up to 100% upon startup. Now with SMP and hyperthreading enabled it locks up the computer and I have to give the computer a hard power down. The cpu is a P4. Any hints as to what might be going on are appreciated. Rob Lytle -- ------------------ http://home.comcast.net/~europa100 A SETI-like Search for Intelligent Life in Central Pa. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Dec 12 19:20:29 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ED44F16A424 for ; Mon, 12 Dec 2005 19:20:29 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from robert@webtent.com) Received: from columbus.webtent.org (static-70-110-70-42.tampfl.fios.verizon.net [70.110.70.42]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 881EE43D79 for ; Mon, 12 Dec 2005 19:20:13 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from robert@webtent.com) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by columbus.webtent.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C85E8CFAB5; Mon, 12 Dec 2005 14:20:07 -0500 (EST) From: Robert Fitzpatrick To: "Michael C. Shultz" In-Reply-To: <200512120930.31536.ringworm01@gmail.com> References: <1134397159.6334.21.camel@columbus> <200512120757.31052.ringworm01@gmail.com> <1134406802.6334.33.camel@columbus.webtent.org> <200512120930.31536.ringworm01@gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain Organization: WebTent Networking, Inc. Date: Mon, 12 Dec 2005 14:20:07 -0500 Message-Id: <1134415207.6334.42.camel@columbus.webtent.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.2.1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Reaching kern.maxfiles X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 12 Dec 2005 19:20:30 -0000 On Mon, 2005-12-12 at 09:30 -0800, Michael C. Shultz wrote: > > No issues with my downgraded ports, but still the issue with reaching > > kern.maxfiles, I have located this document, could this still be related > > to my 5.2.1 kernel? Or, is there a way I could see if this is suspect on > > my system? > > > > http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=58687 > > > > -- > > Robert > > I think changing kern.maxfiles is a bad idea unless you have a very good > reason, you would just be covering up the real problem. You didn't say how > you ran lsof, what does lsof -p {posfix pid} look like? One mail box on my > system postfix opens about 50 files, how many mail boxes on your system? > > The PR you mentioned applies to libc_r, if I recall libc_r isn't supposed to > be used in FreeBSD 5.* > > On my 5.4 system here is the libraries being used by postfix: > > master 473 root txt VREG 4,26 129041 > 3984706 /usr/local/libexec/postfix/master > master 473 root txt VREG 4,12 152700 495144 /libexec/ld-elf.so.1 > master 473 root txt VREG 4,26 229823 > 3768403 /usr/local/lib/libsasl2.so.2 > master 473 root txt VREG 4,26 28040 5700906 /usr/lib/libpam.so.2 > master 473 root txt VREG 4,12 32740 211974 /lib/libcrypt.so.2 > master 473 root txt VREG 4,26 216480 > 3768737 /usr/local/lib/libpcre.so.0 > master 473 root txt VREG 4,12 966792 213219 /lib/libc.so.5 > > If your system was mine here is what I would do first: > > Make sure there is no /etc/libmap.conf > > to make sure all dependencies are corectly built: > portmanager mail/postfix -f -l > > Above I would just do because I was curious if it could be fixed, > but then I would upgrade to 5.4 STABLE or 5.4 RELEASE then > portmanager -u -f -l to make sure all ports were built against the correct > system libraries. My earlier point about downgrading specific ports > is still valid in your case, sometime doing that just creates new problems > because your dependencies are mismatched. > Tried doing the portmanage command, after running it the first time, it upgraded Postfix back to 2.2.6. Then I ran it a 2nd time, this is the result: ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Port Status Report "forced mode" ------------------------------------------------------------------------ 00001 have:postfix-2.2.6,1 /mail/postfix built with OLD dependency: openldap-client-2.2.29 00002 have:openssl-0.9.8a /security/openssl ORIGINAL 00003 have:cyrus-sasl-2.1.21_1 /security/cyrus-sasl2 ORIGINAL 00004 have:db42-4.2.52_4 /databases/db42 ORIGINAL 00005 have:pcre-6.4 /devel/pcre ORIGINAL 00006 ----:openldap-client-2.2.29 /net/openldap22-client MISSING 00007 have:perl-5.8.7 /lang/perl5.8 ORIGINAL 00008 have:libtool-1.5.20 /devel/libtool15 ORIGINAL ======================================================================== skipping postfix-2.2.6,1 /mail/postfix until dependency openssl-0.9.8a updated skipping openssl-0.9.8a /security/openssl until dependency perl-5.8.7 updated skipping cyrus-sasl-2.1.21_1 /security/cyrus-sasl2 until dependency openssl-0.9.8a updated skipping db42-4.2.52_4 /databases/db42 until dependency libtool-1.5.20 updated skipping pcre-6.4 /devel/pcre until dependency libtool-1.5.20 updated skipping openldap-client-2.2.29 /net/openldap22-client until dependency openssl-0.9.8a updated skipping perl-5.8.7 /lang/perl5.8 marked IGNORE reason: failed during make skipping libtool-1.5.20 /devel/libtool15 marked IGNORE reason: failed during make ------------------------------------------------------------------------ portmanager 0.3.9_7 INFO: finished with some ports not updated if --log was used see /var/log/portmanager.log ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Now I have problems with the 'ls' command and starting postfix, getting Segmentation faults. Postfix runs and I am still reaching kern.maxfiles, but now this problem as well: esmtp# postfix start postfix/postfix-script: warning: not owned by root: /usr/local/libexec/postfix Segmentation fault (core dumped) postfix/postfix-script: warning: not owned by root: /usr/local/etc/postfix Segmentation fault (core dumped) postfix/postfix-script: warning: not owned by root: /var/spool/postfix Segmentation fault (core dumped) Segmentation fault (core dumped) Segmentation fault (core dumped) Segmentation fault (core dumped) Segmentation fault (core dumped) postfix/postfix-script: starting the Postfix mail system esmtp# Here is the output from lsof you asked about: esmtp# ps ax | grep postfix 81517 ?? Ss 0:00.68 /usr/local/libexec/postfix/master esmtp# lsof -p 81517 COMMAND PID USER FD TYPE DEVICE SIZE/OFF NODE NAME master 81517 root cwd VDIR 4,17 512 965640 /var/spool/postfix master 81517 root rtd VDIR 4,13 512 2 / master 81517 root txt VREG 4,16 130446 2499027 /usr/local/libexec/postfix/master master 81517 root txt VREG 4,13 135188 94210 /libexec/ld-elf.so.1 master 81517 root txt VREG 4,16 101414 2237774 /usr/local/lib/libsasl2.so.2 master 81517 root txt VREG 4,16 28036 1413244 /usr/lib/libpam.so.2 master 81517 root txt VREG 4,13 32740 70658 /lib/libcrypt.so.2 master 81517 root txt VREG 4,16 259651 2248597 /usr/local/lib/libssl.so.4 master 81517 root txt VREG 4,16 1308218 2248591 /usr/local/lib/libcrypto.so.4 master 81517 root txt VREG 4,16 969676 2498628 /usr/local/lib/db42/libdb-4.2.so.2 master 81517 root txt VREG 4,16 240854 2237668 /usr/local/lib/libldap-2.2.so.7 master 81517 root txt VREG 4,16 61071 2237665 /usr/local/lib/liblber-2.2.so.7 master 81517 root txt VREG 4,16 158332 2237775 /usr/local/lib/libpcre.so.0 master 81517 root txt VREG 4,13 892348 70667 /lib/libc.so.5 master 81517 root txt VREG 4,16 111336 1415475 /usr/lib/libc_r.so.5 master 81517 root txt VREG 4,16 47428 2237797 /usr/local/lib/nss_ldap.so.1 master 81517 root 0u VCHR 2,2 0t0 8 /dev/null master 81517 root 1u VCHR 2,2 0t0 8 /dev/null master 81517 root 2u VCHR 2,2 0t0 8 /dev/null master 81517 root 3r VREG 4,13 1001 23915 /etc/localtime master 81517 root 4r VREG 4,16 56 336603 /usr/share/zoneinfo/GMT master 81517 root 5u unix 0xcacb2870 0t0 ->0xc6d674b0 master 81517 root 6u VCHR 2,2 0t0 8 /dev/null master 81517 root 7u VCHR 2,2 0t0 8 /dev/null master 81517 root 8u VCHR 2,2 0t0 8 /dev/null master 81517 root 9u VCHR 2,2 0t0 8 /dev/null master 81517 root 10u VCHR 2,2 0t0 8 /dev/null master 81517 root 11uW VREG 4,17 17 965641 /var/spool/postfix/pid/master.pid master 81517 root 12u PIPE 0xc727a4b4 16384 ->0xcb82f6b8 master 81517 root 13u IPv4 0xc766ea10 0t0 TCP *:smtp (LISTEN) master 81517 root 14u PIPE 0xcb82e810 16384 ->0xc70f16b8 master 81517 root 15u PIPE 0xc70f16b8 16384 ->0xcb82e810 master 81517 root 16u 0xc7d3d110 file struct, ty=0x4, op=0xc0898ba0 master 81517 root 17u PIPE 0xc720d204 16384 ->0xc72162b0 master 81517 root 18u PIPE 0xc72162b0 16384 ->0xc720d204 master 81517 root 19u unix 0xc729c3c0 0t0 public/cleanup master 81517 root 20u PIPE 0xcb831158 16384 ->0xc7ac760c master 81517 root 21u PIPE 0xc7ac760c 16384 ->0xcb831158 master 81517 root 22u 0xc7cb0484 file struct, ty=0x4, op=0xc0898ba0 master 81517 root 23u PIPE 0xcb82f204 16384 ->0xc8864d70 master 81517 root 24u PIPE 0xc8864d70 16384 ->0xcb82f204 master 81517 root 25u unix 0xc72961e0 0t0 private/rewrite master 81517 root 26u PIPE 0xc8862158 16384 ->0xcb9334b4 master 81517 root 27u PIPE 0xcb9334b4 16384 ->0xc8862158 master 81517 root 28u unix 0xcb7ce870 0t0 private/bounce master 81517 root 29u PIPE 0xcb933408 16384 ->0xcb91ed70 master 81517 root 30u PIPE 0xcb91ed70 16384 ->0xcb933408 master 81517 root 31u unix 0xc72182d0 0t0 private/defer master 81517 root 32u PIPE 0xcb84a560 16384 ->0xcb84aec8 master 81517 root 33u PIPE 0xcb84aec8 16384 ->0xcb84a560 master 81517 root 34u unix 0xcb7b84b0 0t0 public/flush master 81517 root 35u PIPE 0xc776d4b4 16384 ->0xc70df000 master 81517 root 36u PIPE 0xc70df000 16384 ->0xc776d4b4 master 81517 root 37u unix 0xcba61a50 0t0 private/proxymap master 81517 root 38u PIPE 0xc730bac0 16384 ->0xc7216ac0 master 81517 root 39u PIPE 0xc7216ac0 16384 ->0xc730bac0 master 81517 root 40u unix 0xcb188780 0t0 private/smtp master 81517 root 41u PIPE 0xcb91e4b4 16384 ->0xc6d38158 master 81517 root 42u PIPE 0xc6d38158 16384 ->0xcb91e4b4 master 81517 root 43u unix 0xcb17cd20 0t0 private/relay master 81517 root 44u PIPE 0xc6d388bc 16384 ->0xcb82f4b4 master 81517 root 45u PIPE 0xcb82f4b4 16384 ->0xc6d388bc master 81517 root 46u unix 0xc75d8c30 0t0 public/showq master 81517 root 47u PIPE 0xc7954810 16384 ->0xc6d3fc18 master 81517 root 48u PIPE 0xc6d3fc18 16384 ->0xc7954810 master 81517 root 49u unix 0xcadb4780 0t0 private/error master 81517 root 50u PIPE 0xc75e0000 16384 ->0xc8865204 master 81517 root 51u PIPE 0xc8865204 16384 ->0xc75e0000 master 81517 root 52u unix 0xc70ecd20 0t0 private/local master 81517 root 53u PIPE 0xc7ac96b8 16384 ->0xc75e04b4 master 81517 root 54u PIPE 0xc75e04b4 16384 ->0xc7ac96b8 master 81517 root 55u unix 0xcb7b5b40 0t0 private/virtual master 81517 root 56u PIPE 0xc6ceed70 16384 ->0xc727a8bc master 81517 root 57u PIPE 0xc727a8bc 16384 ->0xc6ceed70 master 81517 root 58u unix 0xcb7c8a50 0t0 private/lmtp master 81517 root 59u PIPE 0xc727a2b0 16384 ->0xc7ac8408 master 81517 root 60u PIPE 0xc7ac8408 16384 ->0xc727a2b0 master 81517 root 61u unix 0xcba624b0 0t0 private/maildrop master 81517 root 62u PIPE 0xc776d35c 16384 ->0xc7ac9408 master 81517 root 63u PIPE 0xc7ac9408 16384 ->0xc776d35c master 81517 root 64u unix 0xc7a404b0 0t0 private/cyrus master 81517 root 65u PIPE 0xc70fe8bc 16384 ->0xc7ac7408 master 81517 root 66u PIPE 0xc7ac7408 16384 ->0xc70fe8bc master 81517 root 67u unix 0xca8e8d20 0t0 private/uucp master 81517 root 68u PIPE 0xcb91e60c 16384 ->0xc6ced764 master 81517 root 69u PIPE 0xc6ced764 16384 ->0xcb91e60c master 81517 root 70u unix 0xcb7d8a50 0t0 private/ifmail master 81517 root 71u PIPE 0xc72160ac 16384 ->0xc75e0764 master 81517 root 72u PIPE 0xc75e0764 16384 ->0xc72160ac master 81517 root 73u unix 0xc779d870 0t0 private/bsmtp master 81517 root 74u PIPE 0xc795435c 16384 ->0xc7ac8ac0 master 81517 root 75u PIPE 0xc7ac8ac0 16384 ->0xc795435c master 81517 root 76u unix 0xcb7b53c0 0t0 private/smtp-amavis master 81517 root 77u PIPE 0xc70ffcc4 16384 ->0xcb7f04b4 master 81517 root 78u PIPE 0xcb7f04b4 16384 ->0xc70ffcc4 master 81517 root 79u IPv4 0xcb9125c0 0t0 TCP localhost.webtent.net:10025 (LISTEN) master 81517 root 80u PIPE 0xcb8306b8 16384 ->0xcb82ee1c master 81517 root 81u PIPE 0xcb82ee1c 16384 ->0xcb8306b8 master 81517 root 82u unix 0xcb7ae0f0 0t0 private/trace master 81517 root 83u PIPE 0xc6d384b4 16384 ->0xc720dd70 master 81517 root 84u PIPE 0xc720dd70 16384 ->0xc6d384b4 master 81517 root 85u unix 0xc7558960 0t0 private/verify master 81517 root 86u PIPE 0xc7953204 16384 ->0xc7ac8810 master 81517 root 87u PIPE 0xc7ac8810 16384 ->0xc7953204 master 81517 root 88u unix 0xc72183c0 0t0 private/anvil master 81517 root 89u PIPE 0xc70feb6c 16384 ->0xc7ac84b4 master 81517 root 90u PIPE 0xc7ac84b4 16384 ->0xc70feb6c master 81517 root 91u unix 0xcb7dec30 0t0 private/scache master 81517 root 92u PIPE 0xc6e1dec8 16384 ->0xc776d60c master 81517 root 93u PIPE 0xc776d60c 16384 ->0xc6e1dec8 master 81517 root 94u unix 0xcb792c30 0t0 private/discard master 81517 root 95u PIPE 0xc7216b6c 16384 ->0xc6e1d204 master 81517 root 96u PIPE 0xc6e1d204 16384 ->0xc7216b6c master 81517 root 97u unix 0xcb7d6a50 0t0 private/tlsmgr master 81517 root 98u PIPE 0xc75e1c18 16384 ->0xc6e1da14 master 81517 root 99u PIPE 0xc6e1da14 16384 ->0xc75e1c18 master 81517 root 100u PIPE 0xcb82f6b8 16384 ->0xc727a4b4 master 81517 root 101u PIPE 0xc6ced0ac 16384 ->0xc70df0ac master 81517 root 102u PIPE 0xc70df0ac 16384 ->0xc6ced0ac Segmentation fault From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Dec 12 19:23:48 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 19C8C16A41F for ; Mon, 12 Dec 2005 19:23:48 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from sveinhal@gmail.com) Received: from xproxy.gmail.com (xproxy.gmail.com [66.249.82.195]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 674CB43D95 for ; Mon, 12 Dec 2005 19:23:14 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from sveinhal@gmail.com) Received: by xproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id i30so1140935wxd for ; Mon, 12 Dec 2005 11:23:08 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:sender:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=czTaZjg8T9CZylEBS62GVt2jllCSzScRReLaak7fR8ueFRRanwLlyIa0OPsUG07jIEqFPkAIR4TUeamZiDSkV/81QRMcV/2mZZIxWEp+YVr6NAV8WOdPSq7eLumRFfjJXZb5JyKs7+v0naT5x5ntDzdebOcA91CkaZniHI6NkGA= Received: by 10.70.109.14 with SMTP id h14mr5464824wxc; Mon, 12 Dec 2005 11:23:08 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.70.105.11 with HTTP; Mon, 12 Dec 2005 11:23:08 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: Date: Mon, 12 Dec 2005 20:23:08 +0100 From: Svein Halvor Halvorsen Sender: sveinhal@gmail.com To: Giorgos Keramidas In-Reply-To: <20051212190429.GA6339@flame.pc> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline References: <1f0cea6f074a11683a5c35ca.20051212104741.wzyrjvf@www.dslextreme.com> <20051212190429.GA6339@flame.pc> Cc: Joshua Lewis , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: SCP! X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 12 Dec 2005 19:23:48 -0000 On 12/12/05, Giorgos Keramidas wrote: > You use PSCP.EXE instead of PUTTY.EXE from a Windows' "cmd" prompt. > That's probably awful, if you're looking for something with fancy, > colourful GUI buttons, but it has certainly saved my a$$ a few times :) http://winscp.net/ is a nice GUI scp and sftp client for Windows. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Dec 12 19:27:42 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 740A916A422 for ; Mon, 12 Dec 2005 19:27:42 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from kdk@daleco.biz) Received: from ezekiel.daleco.biz (southernuniform.com [66.76.92.18]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DB56D43D53 for ; Mon, 12 Dec 2005 19:27:41 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from kdk@daleco.biz) Received: from [192.168.2.2] ([69.27.149.254]) by ezekiel.daleco.biz (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id jBCJQ51j037899; Mon, 12 Dec 2005 13:26:25 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from kdk@daleco.biz) Message-ID: <439DCEC3.3050009@daleco.biz> Date: Mon, 12 Dec 2005 13:25:55 -0600 From: Kevin Kinsey User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.7.12) Gecko/20051026 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: jmlewis@dslextreme.com References: <1f0cea6f074a11683a5c35ca.20051212104741.wzyrjvf@www.dslextreme.com> In-Reply-To: <1f0cea6f074a11683a5c35ca.20051212104741.wzyrjvf@www.dslextreme.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: SCP! X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 12 Dec 2005 19:27:42 -0000 Joshua Lewis wrote: >>From what i gather scp is a pull type method (for lack of a better term) I >use scp from the computer I want the data pulled to. > >My problem is I am at a Windows XP system using putty and I can't "pull" >the data because putty signs me into the freebsd system. So if I were to >use SCP I would be pulling to the freebsd system becuase I am signed in >with Putty right? > >So how do I sign on to freebsd and then scp the folder to the windows >machine? more like a push. > >Any thoughts? Sorry if I seem abrupt I in a bit of a pickle. > >Thank you, >Joshua Lewis > > Well, maybe it's abrupt; I don't see a clear description of the problem you are having, but it seems you want to perform an encrypted file transfer? You mention PuTTY; IIRC, Mr. Tatham had also written "psftp", which came with a complete installation of PuTTY and enacted file transfer via SSH protocols on Windows. So, from the "cmd" shell on WinXP, you could utilize psftp to grab files from your FreeBSD server. "psftp" is probably also available (seperately) from the FTP site at: ftp://chiark.greend.org.uk/users/sgtatham That'd be a "pull". There are plenty of other possibilities, I'd think, also. As an example, many Windows FTP clients support SFTP, which operates as an SSH subsystem on FreeBSD, and if you can use PuTTY to log in to a FBSD box, then you should be able to use one of these to "pull" data, as well. HTH, Kevin Kinsey -- Political speeches are like steer horns. A point here, a point there, and a lot of bull in between. -- Alfred E. Neuman From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Dec 12 19:35:03 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E09E316A41F for ; Mon, 12 Dec 2005 19:35:03 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from xfb52@dial.pipex.com) Received: from smtp-out5.blueyonder.co.uk (smtp-out5.blueyonder.co.uk [195.188.213.8]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C0C9343D69 for ; Mon, 12 Dec 2005 19:34:47 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from xfb52@dial.pipex.com) Received: from [82.41.32.173] ([82.41.32.173]) by smtp-out5.blueyonder.co.uk with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.6713); Mon, 12 Dec 2005 19:35:40 +0000 Message-ID: <439DD0D4.1070207@dial.pipex.com> Date: Mon, 12 Dec 2005 19:34:44 +0000 From: Alex Zbyslaw User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-GB; rv:1.7.12) Gecko/20051106 X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Joshua Lewis References: <1f0cea6f074a11683a5c35ca.20051212104741.wzyrjvf@www.dslextreme.com> <20051212190429.GA6339@flame.pc> In-Reply-To: <20051212190429.GA6339@flame.pc> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-OriginalArrivalTime: 12 Dec 2005 19:35:40.0326 (UTC) FILETIME=[3BF5CC60:01C5FF53] Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: SCP! X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 12 Dec 2005 19:35:04 -0000 Giorgos Keramidas wrote: >You use PSCP.EXE instead of PUTTY.EXE from a Windows' "cmd" prompt. >That's probably awful, if you're looking for something with fancy, >colourful GUI buttons, but it has certainly saved my a$$ a few times :) > > There's also filezilla, which I haven't used myself but have heard recommended. --Alex From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Dec 12 19:36:39 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CB8CF16A41F for ; Mon, 12 Dec 2005 19:36:39 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jmlewis@dslextreme.com) Received: from mail2.dslextreme.com (mail2.dslextreme.com [66.51.199.52]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 4BBB343D79 for ; Mon, 12 Dec 2005 19:36:37 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jmlewis@dslextreme.com) Received: (qmail 28232 invoked from network); 12 Dec 2005 19:31:04 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO www.dslextreme.com) (192.168.7.122) by mail2.dslextreme.com with SMTP; Mon, 12 Dec 2005 11:31:04 -0800 Message-ID: <14e20a4aac0abb50a3e040a.20051212113636.wzyrjvf@www.dslextreme.com> In-Reply-To: <439DCA72.30706@jamesbailie.com> References: <1f0cea6f074a11683a5c35ca.20051212104741.wzyrjvf@www.dslextreme.com> <439DCA72.30706@jamesbailie.com> Date: Mon, 12 Dec 2005 11:36:36 -0800 (PST) From: "Joshua Lewis" To: "James Bailie" User-Agent: DSL Extreme Webmail (www.dslextreme.com) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 Importance: Normal Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: SCP! X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: jmlewis@dslextreme.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 12 Dec 2005 19:36:39 -0000 Thank you again to everyone on the list. I got the files moved. I really apreciate all responses and help. Thank you, Joshua Lewis James Bailie > Joshua Lewis wrote: > > > So how do I sign on to freebsd and then scp the folder to the windows > > machine? more like a push. > > scp can push or pull. You just don't have a sshd running on your > windows machine, so pushing back to it isn't possible. What you > want is a version of sftp or scp for Windows, to allow you to > pull from the remote host. On the PuTTY website, two such tools > are available, pftp and pscp. > > You can download them here: > > distribution.http://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~sgtatham/putty/download.html > > > -- > James Bailie > http://www.jamesbailie.com > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Dec 12 19:40:17 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F40E816A41F for ; Mon, 12 Dec 2005 19:40:16 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: from kane.otenet.gr (kane.otenet.gr [195.170.0.95]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7A26043D6E for ; Mon, 12 Dec 2005 19:40:04 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: from flame.pc (aris.bedc.ondsl.gr [62.103.39.226]) by kane.otenet.gr (8.13.4/8.13.4/Debian-8) with SMTP id jBCJcEdY032603; Mon, 12 Dec 2005 21:38:14 +0200 Received: by flame.pc (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 21ACD1146C; Mon, 12 Dec 2005 21:37:24 +0200 (EET) Date: Mon, 12 Dec 2005 21:37:24 +0200 From: Giorgos Keramidas To: Svein Halvor Halvorsen Message-ID: <20051212193724.GA6684@flame.pc> References: <1f0cea6f074a11683a5c35ca.20051212104741.wzyrjvf@www.dslextreme.com> <20051212190429.GA6339@flame.pc> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: Cc: Joshua Lewis , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: SCP! X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 12 Dec 2005 19:40:17 -0000 On 2005-12-12 20:23, Svein Halvor Halvorsen wrote: >On 12/12/05, Giorgos Keramidas wrote: >> You use PSCP.EXE instead of PUTTY.EXE from a Windows' "cmd" prompt. >> That's probably awful, if you're looking for something with fancy, >> colourful GUI buttons, but it has certainly saved my a$$ a few times :) > > http://winscp.net/ is a nice GUI scp and sftp client for Windows. Many thanks! I don't use Windows, unless I'm *REALLY* forced to do so, because I almost invariably find the whole experience extremely annoying and distracting from the work I really want to do, but this will be useful to know for any future occasions I'm forced to use Windows :) From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Dec 12 19:43:14 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 81F4516A41F for ; Mon, 12 Dec 2005 19:43:14 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jnatola@familycareintl.org) Received: from mail.familycareintl.org (mail.familycareintl.org [68.167.21.154]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B9A8943DA7 for ; Mon, 12 Dec 2005 19:42:56 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jnatola@familycareintl.org) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Date: Mon, 12 Dec 2005 14:42:52 -0500 Message-ID: <3A85D7EF44E1C744BF6434691F5659E9672D3B@fci-ex.FCI> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: DNS refresh Thread-Index: AcX/VD1Si48krtNHQVmMIVU5YEObPw== From: "Jean-Paul Natola" To: Subject: DNS refresh X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 12 Dec 2005 19:43:14 -0000 Hi all,=20 Sorry for the novice question,=20 How does one go about refreshing a dns record on BSD box (without = rebooting), it is NOT a DNS server. TIA, jp =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 Jean-Paul Natola Network Administrator Information Technology Family Care International 588 Broadway Suite 503 New York, NY 10012 Phone:212-941-5300 xt 36 Fax: 212-941-5563 Mailto: Jnatola@Familycareintl.org=20 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Dec 12 19:43:20 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DAD6C16A41F for ; Mon, 12 Dec 2005 19:43:20 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ringworm01@gmail.com) Received: from xproxy.gmail.com (xproxy.gmail.com [66.249.82.206]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C987A43DA2 for ; Mon, 12 Dec 2005 19:42:49 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ringworm01@gmail.com) Received: by xproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id t12so1102481wxc for ; Mon, 12 Dec 2005 11:42:43 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:from:to:subject:date:user-agent:cc:references:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:message-id; b=FNN/CrkwnYHY024APTTsq2kLDZvBRf3l6vScRCIXYjzC+irFntUANHz5VEZhfcqMBS/Pak0lfZtV5qPTWJmBshGI/QjCiDqn7CxLwYYc6PtzQhtBk190jA4PK/HnqcdvpydPkB1b3ciK2UK2zQVBTJnicFsZo1o0bUkHyiOpEVo= Received: by 10.70.26.15 with SMTP id 15mr3349251wxz; Mon, 12 Dec 2005 11:42:42 -0800 (PST) Received: from ringworm.mechee.com ( [71.102.14.129]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id i16sm7755485wxd.2005.12.12.11.42.40; Mon, 12 Dec 2005 11:42:42 -0800 (PST) From: "Michael C. Shultz" To: Robert Fitzpatrick Date: Mon, 12 Dec 2005 11:42:37 -0800 User-Agent: KMail/1.8.3 References: <1134397159.6334.21.camel@columbus> <200512120930.31536.ringworm01@gmail.com> <1134415207.6334.42.camel@columbus.webtent.org> In-Reply-To: <1134415207.6334.42.camel@columbus.webtent.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-6" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200512121142.38541.ringworm01@gmail.com> Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Reaching kern.maxfiles X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 12 Dec 2005 19:43:21 -0000 On Monday 12 December 2005 11:20, Robert Fitzpatrick wrote: > On Mon, 2005-12-12 at 09:30 -0800, Michael C. Shultz wrote: > > > No issues with my downgraded ports, but still the issue with reaching > > > kern.maxfiles, I have located this document, could this still be > > > related to my 5.2.1 kernel? Or, is there a way I could see if this is > > > suspect on my system? > > > > > > http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=58687 > > > > > > -- > > > Robert > > > > I think changing kern.maxfiles is a bad idea unless you have a very good > > reason, you would just be covering up the real problem. You didn't say > > how you ran lsof, what does lsof -p {posfix pid} look like? One mail box > > on my system postfix opens about 50 files, how many mail boxes on your > > system? > > > > The PR you mentioned applies to libc_r, if I recall libc_r isn't supposed > > to be used in FreeBSD 5.* > > > > On my 5.4 system here is the libraries being used by postfix: > > > > master 473 root txt VREG 4,26 129041 > > 3984706 /usr/local/libexec/postfix/master > > master 473 root txt VREG 4,12 152700 495144 > > /libexec/ld-elf.so.1 master 473 root txt VREG 4,26 229823 > > 3768403 /usr/local/lib/libsasl2.so.2 > > master 473 root txt VREG 4,26 28040 5700906 > > /usr/lib/libpam.so.2 master 473 root txt VREG 4,12 32740 > > 211974 /lib/libcrypt.so.2 master 473 root txt VREG 4,26 > > 216480 > > 3768737 /usr/local/lib/libpcre.so.0 > > master 473 root txt VREG 4,12 966792 213219 /lib/libc.so.5 > > > > If your system was mine here is what I would do first: > > > > Make sure there is no /etc/libmap.conf > > > > to make sure all dependencies are corectly built: > > portmanager mail/postfix -f -l > > > > Above I would just do because I was curious if it could be fixed, > > but then I would upgrade to 5.4 STABLE or 5.4 RELEASE then > > portmanager -u -f -l to make sure all ports were built against the > > correct system libraries. My earlier point about downgrading specific > > ports is still valid in your case, sometime doing that just creates new > > problems because your dependencies are mismatched. > > Tried doing the portmanage command, after running it the first time, it > upgraded Postfix back to 2.2.6. Then I ran it a 2nd time, this is the > result: > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Port Status Report "forced mode" > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > 00001 have:postfix-2.2.6,1 /mail/postfix > built with OLD dependency: openldap-client-2.2.29 00002 > have:openssl-0.9.8a /security/openssl > ORIGINAL 00003 have:cyrus-sasl-2.1.21_1 > /security/cyrus-sasl2 ORIGINAL 00004 have:db42-4.2.52_4 > /databases/db42 ORIGINAL 00005 > have:pcre-6.4 /devel/pcre > ORIGINAL 00006 ----:openldap-client-2.2.29 > /net/openldap22-client MISSING 00007 have:perl-5.8.7 > /lang/perl5.8 ORIGINAL 00008 > have:libtool-1.5.20 /devel/libtool15 > ORIGINAL > ======================================================================== > skipping postfix-2.2.6,1 /mail/postfix until dependency openssl-0.9.8a > updated skipping openssl-0.9.8a /security/openssl until dependency > perl-5.8.7 updated skipping cyrus-sasl-2.1.21_1 /security/cyrus-sasl2 until > dependency openssl-0.9.8a updated skipping db42-4.2.52_4 /databases/db42 > until dependency libtool-1.5.20 updated skipping pcre-6.4 /devel/pcre until > dependency libtool-1.5.20 updated skipping openldap-client-2.2.29 > /net/openldap22-client until dependency openssl-0.9.8a updated skipping > perl-5.8.7 /lang/perl5.8 marked IGNORE reason: failed during make skipping Can you build perl manually? cd /usr/ports/lang/perl5.8 && make clean make && make deinstall install If not you need to solve that. Can you build libtool manually? cd /usr/ports//devel/libtool15 && make clean make && make deinstall install If not you need to solve that. No point worring over the rest if the above won't build, and if you get them to then finish running portmanager -Mike > libtool-1.5.20 /devel/libtool15 marked IGNORE reason: failed during make > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > portmanager 0.3.9_7 INFO: finished with some ports not updated if --log > was used see /var/log/portmanager.log > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > Now I have problems with the 'ls' command and starting postfix, getting > Segmentation faults. Postfix runs and I am still reaching kern.maxfiles, > but now this problem as well: > > esmtp# postfix start > postfix/postfix-script: warning: not owned by root: > /usr/local/libexec/postfix Segmentation fault (core dumped) > postfix/postfix-script: warning: not owned by root: /usr/local/etc/postfix > Segmentation fault (core dumped) > postfix/postfix-script: warning: not owned by root: /var/spool/postfix > Segmentation fault (core dumped) > Segmentation fault (core dumped) > Segmentation fault (core dumped) > Segmentation fault (core dumped) > Segmentation fault (core dumped) > postfix/postfix-script: starting the Postfix mail system > esmtp# > > Here is the output from lsof you asked about: > > esmtp# ps ax | grep postfix > 81517 ?? Ss 0:00.68 /usr/local/libexec/postfix/master > esmtp# lsof -p 81517 > COMMAND PID USER FD TYPE DEVICE SIZE/OFF NODE NAME > master 81517 root cwd VDIR 4,17 512 965640 > /var/spool/postfix master 81517 root rtd VDIR 4,13 512 > 2 / > master 81517 root txt VREG 4,16 130446 2499027 > /usr/local/libexec/postfix/master master 81517 root txt VREG 4,13 > 135188 94210 /libexec/ld-elf.so.1 master 81517 root txt VREG > 4,16 101414 2237774 /usr/local/lib/libsasl2.so.2 master 81517 root txt > VREG 4,16 28036 1413244 /usr/lib/libpam.so.2 master 81517 root > txt VREG 4,13 32740 70658 /lib/libcrypt.so.2 master 81517 > root txt VREG 4,16 259651 2248597 /usr/local/lib/libssl.so.4 > master 81517 root txt VREG 4,16 1308218 2248591 > /usr/local/lib/libcrypto.so.4 master 81517 root txt VREG 4,16 > 969676 2498628 /usr/local/lib/db42/libdb-4.2.so.2 master 81517 root txt > VREG 4,16 240854 2237668 /usr/local/lib/libldap-2.2.so.7 master > 81517 root txt VREG 4,16 61071 2237665 > /usr/local/lib/liblber-2.2.so.7 master 81517 root txt VREG 4,16 > 158332 2237775 /usr/local/lib/libpcre.so.0 master 81517 root txt VREG > 4,13 892348 70667 /lib/libc.so.5 master 81517 root txt VREG > 4,16 111336 1415475 /usr/lib/libc_r.so.5 master 81517 root txt VREG > 4,16 47428 2237797 /usr/local/lib/nss_ldap.so.1 master 81517 root > 0u VCHR 2,2 0t0 8 /dev/null master 81517 root 1u > VCHR 2,2 0t0 8 /dev/null master 81517 root 2u VCHR > 2,2 0t0 8 /dev/null master 81517 root 3r VREG > 4,13 1001 23915 /etc/localtime master 81517 root 4r VREG > 4,16 56 336603 /usr/share/zoneinfo/GMT master 81517 root 5u > unix 0xcacb2870 0t0 ->0xc6d674b0 master 81517 root 6u > VCHR 2,2 0t0 8 /dev/null master 81517 root 7u VCHR > 2,2 0t0 8 /dev/null master 81517 root 8u VCHR > 2,2 0t0 8 /dev/null master 81517 root 9u VCHR 2,2 > 0t0 8 /dev/null master 81517 root 10u VCHR 2,2 0t0 > 8 /dev/null master 81517 root 11uW VREG 4,17 17 965641 > /var/spool/postfix/pid/master.pid master 81517 root 12u PIPE 0xc727a4b4 > 16384 ->0xcb82f6b8 master 81517 root 13u IPv4 0xc766ea10 > 0t0 TCP *:smtp (LISTEN) master 81517 root 14u PIPE 0xcb82e810 > 16384 ->0xc70f16b8 master 81517 root 15u PIPE 0xc70f16b8 > 16384 ->0xcb82e810 master 81517 root 16u > 0xc7d3d110 file struct, ty=0x4, op=0xc0898ba0 master 81517 root > 17u PIPE 0xc720d204 16384 ->0xc72162b0 master 81517 root > 18u PIPE 0xc72162b0 16384 ->0xc720d204 master 81517 root 19u > unix 0xc729c3c0 0t0 public/cleanup master 81517 root 20u > PIPE 0xcb831158 16384 ->0xc7ac760c master 81517 root 21u > PIPE 0xc7ac760c 16384 ->0xcb831158 master 81517 root 22u > 0xc7cb0484 file struct, ty=0x4, op=0xc0898ba0 > master 81517 root 23u PIPE 0xcb82f204 16384 ->0xc8864d70 > master 81517 root 24u PIPE 0xc8864d70 16384 ->0xcb82f204 > master 81517 root 25u unix 0xc72961e0 0t0 private/rewrite > master 81517 root 26u PIPE 0xc8862158 16384 ->0xcb9334b4 > master 81517 root 27u PIPE 0xcb9334b4 16384 ->0xc8862158 > master 81517 root 28u unix 0xcb7ce870 0t0 private/bounce > master 81517 root 29u PIPE 0xcb933408 16384 ->0xcb91ed70 > master 81517 root 30u PIPE 0xcb91ed70 16384 ->0xcb933408 > master 81517 root 31u unix 0xc72182d0 0t0 private/defer > master 81517 root 32u PIPE 0xcb84a560 16384 ->0xcb84aec8 > master 81517 root 33u PIPE 0xcb84aec8 16384 ->0xcb84a560 > master 81517 root 34u unix 0xcb7b84b0 0t0 public/flush > master 81517 root 35u PIPE 0xc776d4b4 16384 ->0xc70df000 > master 81517 root 36u PIPE 0xc70df000 16384 ->0xc776d4b4 > master 81517 root 37u unix 0xcba61a50 0t0 private/proxymap > master 81517 root 38u PIPE 0xc730bac0 16384 ->0xc7216ac0 > master 81517 root 39u PIPE 0xc7216ac0 16384 ->0xc730bac0 > master 81517 root 40u unix 0xcb188780 0t0 private/smtp > master 81517 root 41u PIPE 0xcb91e4b4 16384 ->0xc6d38158 > master 81517 root 42u PIPE 0xc6d38158 16384 ->0xcb91e4b4 > master 81517 root 43u unix 0xcb17cd20 0t0 private/relay > master 81517 root 44u PIPE 0xc6d388bc 16384 ->0xcb82f4b4 > master 81517 root 45u PIPE 0xcb82f4b4 16384 ->0xc6d388bc > master 81517 root 46u unix 0xc75d8c30 0t0 public/showq > master 81517 root 47u PIPE 0xc7954810 16384 ->0xc6d3fc18 > master 81517 root 48u PIPE 0xc6d3fc18 16384 ->0xc7954810 > master 81517 root 49u unix 0xcadb4780 0t0 private/error > master 81517 root 50u PIPE 0xc75e0000 16384 ->0xc8865204 > master 81517 root 51u PIPE 0xc8865204 16384 ->0xc75e0000 > master 81517 root 52u unix 0xc70ecd20 0t0 private/local > master 81517 root 53u PIPE 0xc7ac96b8 16384 ->0xc75e04b4 > master 81517 root 54u PIPE 0xc75e04b4 16384 ->0xc7ac96b8 > master 81517 root 55u unix 0xcb7b5b40 0t0 private/virtual > master 81517 root 56u PIPE 0xc6ceed70 16384 ->0xc727a8bc > master 81517 root 57u PIPE 0xc727a8bc 16384 ->0xc6ceed70 > master 81517 root 58u unix 0xcb7c8a50 0t0 private/lmtp > master 81517 root 59u PIPE 0xc727a2b0 16384 ->0xc7ac8408 > master 81517 root 60u PIPE 0xc7ac8408 16384 ->0xc727a2b0 > master 81517 root 61u unix 0xcba624b0 0t0 private/maildrop > master 81517 root 62u PIPE 0xc776d35c 16384 ->0xc7ac9408 > master 81517 root 63u PIPE 0xc7ac9408 16384 ->0xc776d35c > master 81517 root 64u unix 0xc7a404b0 0t0 private/cyrus > master 81517 root 65u PIPE 0xc70fe8bc 16384 ->0xc7ac7408 > master 81517 root 66u PIPE 0xc7ac7408 16384 ->0xc70fe8bc > master 81517 root 67u unix 0xca8e8d20 0t0 private/uucp > master 81517 root 68u PIPE 0xcb91e60c 16384 ->0xc6ced764 > master 81517 root 69u PIPE 0xc6ced764 16384 ->0xcb91e60c > master 81517 root 70u unix 0xcb7d8a50 0t0 private/ifmail > master 81517 root 71u PIPE 0xc72160ac 16384 ->0xc75e0764 > master 81517 root 72u PIPE 0xc75e0764 16384 ->0xc72160ac > master 81517 root 73u unix 0xc779d870 0t0 private/bsmtp > master 81517 root 74u PIPE 0xc795435c 16384 ->0xc7ac8ac0 > master 81517 root 75u PIPE 0xc7ac8ac0 16384 ->0xc795435c > master 81517 root 76u unix 0xcb7b53c0 0t0 > private/smtp-amavis master 81517 root 77u PIPE 0xc70ffcc4 16384 > ->0xcb7f04b4 master 81517 root 78u PIPE 0xcb7f04b4 16384 > ->0xc70ffcc4 master 81517 root 79u IPv4 0xcb9125c0 0t0 TCP > localhost.webtent.net:10025 (LISTEN) master 81517 root 80u PIPE > 0xcb8306b8 16384 ->0xcb82ee1c master 81517 root 81u PIPE > 0xcb82ee1c 16384 ->0xcb8306b8 master 81517 root 82u unix > 0xcb7ae0f0 0t0 private/trace master 81517 root 83u PIPE > 0xc6d384b4 16384 ->0xc720dd70 master 81517 root 84u PIPE > 0xc720dd70 16384 ->0xc6d384b4 master 81517 root 85u unix > 0xc7558960 0t0 private/verify master 81517 root 86u PIPE > 0xc7953204 16384 ->0xc7ac8810 master 81517 root 87u PIPE > 0xc7ac8810 16384 ->0xc7953204 master 81517 root 88u unix > 0xc72183c0 0t0 private/anvil master 81517 root 89u PIPE > 0xc70feb6c 16384 ->0xc7ac84b4 master 81517 root 90u PIPE > 0xc7ac84b4 16384 ->0xc70feb6c master 81517 root 91u unix > 0xcb7dec30 0t0 private/scache master 81517 root 92u PIPE > 0xc6e1dec8 16384 ->0xc776d60c master 81517 root 93u PIPE > 0xc776d60c 16384 ->0xc6e1dec8 master 81517 root 94u unix > 0xcb792c30 0t0 private/discard master 81517 root 95u PIPE > 0xc7216b6c 16384 ->0xc6e1d204 master 81517 root 96u PIPE > 0xc6e1d204 16384 ->0xc7216b6c master 81517 root 97u unix > 0xcb7d6a50 0t0 private/tlsmgr master 81517 root 98u PIPE > 0xc75e1c18 16384 ->0xc6e1da14 master 81517 root 99u PIPE > 0xc6e1da14 16384 ->0xc75e1c18 master 81517 root 100u PIPE > 0xcb82f6b8 16384 ->0xc727a4b4 master 81517 root 101u PIPE > 0xc6ced0ac 16384 ->0xc70df0ac master 81517 root 102u PIPE > 0xc70df0ac 16384 ->0xc6ced0ac Segmentation fault From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Dec 12 19:46:42 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 13AE116A41F for ; Mon, 12 Dec 2005 19:46:42 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from bill@60north.net) Received: from maine.60north.net (maine.60north.net [198.143.201.10]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2A69043D7E for ; Mon, 12 Dec 2005 19:46:40 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from bill@60north.net) Received: from (198.143.201.10) by 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12 Dec 2005 19:46:42 -0000 Hey folks, strange problem over here attempting to run Lone-Tar on FreeBSD6. More specifically the scheduler 'crony' included with the program. When invoking crony I get the error: crony: ERROR: Sorry, can not find the necessary terminal control codes. Runs fine on freebsd5. This was reported to the folks at lone-tar but they don't officially support freebsd6 as of yet and I got a canned response of 'works over here'. Any ideas of which direction I should look? Thanks! From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Dec 12 19:48:57 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D75DF16A45A for ; Mon, 12 Dec 2005 19:48:56 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from danstemporaryaccount@yahoo.ca) Received: from kenyan.nodes.net.ad-flow.com (KENYAN.NODES.NET.AD-FLOW.COM [66.117.33.216]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 93ECA43D64 for ; Mon, 12 Dec 2005 19:48:50 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from danstemporaryaccount@yahoo.ca) Received: from [66.38.196.186] (helo=dquinn.cubearmy.com) by kenyan.nodes.net.ad-flow.com with esmtps (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.50) id 1EltfD-0008fP-43 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 12 Dec 2005 19:48:47 +0000 From: daniel To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Mon, 12 Dec 2005 14:48:45 -0500 User-Agent: KMail/1.9 References: <200512081051.38306.danstemporaryaccount@yahoo.ca> <70e8236f0512081529p71063331ua3b6297fbd007c3d@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <70e8236f0512081529p71063331ua3b6297fbd007c3d@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200512121448.45716.danstemporaryaccount@yahoo.ca> Subject: Re: MySQL "forgot" some of my data! X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 12 Dec 2005 19:48:57 -0000 On Thursday 08 December 2005 18:29, Joao Barros wrote: > On 12/8/05, daniel wrote: > > Our company has a few very large databases (>9gb) which required a shut > > down, > > > > mysql> SELECT * FROM campaigns LIMIT 0; > > ERROR 1017 at line 1: Can't find file: 'campaigns.MYI' (errno: 2) > > Was that using MyISAM or InnoDB ? Both tables lost were MyISAM, but ther were also a number of other MyISAM tables that remained seemingly untouched. > > So my questions to you, deal list are: > > > > 1. Should mysqladmin shutdown take this long? > > a. Is this normal even with a load of 0.00? > > I'd say no.... on a Power5 with 8ish cpus and a load of 15 on a 34GB > database I could stop it almost instantly using normal shutdown > procedure. Good to know, but what then is the best idea when a shutdown _is_ taking so long? > > 2. Is this the best way to shut down a database of this size? > > Is there a different way per size? Guess not ;) > > > 3. What is most likely to be the cause of the data loss? > > Were you using MyISAM of InnoDB? I had this issue after a restart with > the only table using MyISAM. My chief concern is that this should never happen again and at this stage I'm still not sure how to prevent it. Are you saying InnoDB is a more stable format and recommending that we should switch everything to this format? Right now we're using MySQL 4.0.x but we're in the process of migrating to 4.1 for the next version of the project. Would 5.0 be a better choice considering that this is a near rewrite? Thanks for all the advice and sorry for the late reply. Christmas time has been a stressful one for me ;-) -- we do not see things as they are. we see them as we are - anais nin From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Dec 12 19:52:14 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 60F2516A434 for ; Mon, 12 Dec 2005 19:52:13 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from bkoenig@cs.tu-berlin.de) Received: from efacilitas.de (smtp.efacilitas.de [85.10.196.108]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F2CA543D97 for ; Mon, 12 Dec 2005 19:51:52 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from bkoenig@cs.tu-berlin.de) Received: from eurystheus.local (port-212-202-39-231.dynamic.qsc.de [212.202.39.231]) by efacilitas.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 19C3B4C53A; Mon, 12 Dec 2005 20:59:52 +0100 (CET) Received: from [192.168.1.2] (muhkuh.local [192.168.1.2]) by eurystheus.local (Postfix) with ESMTP id 12A54508B5; Mon, 12 Dec 2005 20:50:10 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <439DD4D7.7080306@cs.tu-berlin.de> Date: Mon, 12 Dec 2005 20:51:51 +0100 From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Bj=F6rn_K=F6nig?= User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.7 (Windows/20050923) X-Accept-Language: de-DE, de, en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Svein Halvor Halvorsen References: <1f0cea6f074a11683a5c35ca.20051212104741.wzyrjvf@www.dslextreme.com> <20051212190429.GA6339@flame.pc> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Cc: Giorgos Keramidas , Joshua Lewis , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: SCP! X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 12 Dec 2005 19:52:14 -0000 Svein Halvor Halvorsen schrieb: > On 12/12/05, Giorgos Keramidas wrote: > >>You use PSCP.EXE instead of PUTTY.EXE from a Windows' "cmd" prompt. >>That's probably awful, if you're looking for something with fancy, >>colourful GUI buttons, but it has certainly saved my a$$ a few times :) > > > http://winscp.net/ is a nice GUI scp and sftp client for Windows. Yet another GUI which is my favourite: ftp://ftp.ssh.com/pub/ssh/SSHSecureShellClient-3.2.9.exe Free of charge for non-commercial use. Regards Björn From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Dec 12 19:55:36 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 55DB016A422 for ; Mon, 12 Dec 2005 19:55:36 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from alamar@alamar.org) Received: from mail-in-01.arcor-online.net (mail-in-01.arcor-online.net [151.189.21.41]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9CE3543D60 for ; Mon, 12 Dec 2005 19:54:57 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from alamar@alamar.org) Received: from mail-in-02-z2.arcor-online.net (mail-in-02-z2.arcor-online.net [151.189.8.14]) by mail-in-01.arcor-online.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5216270CF5 for ; Mon, 12 Dec 2005 20:54:35 +0100 (CET) Received: from mail-in-05.arcor-online.net (mail-in-05.arcor-online.net [151.189.21.45]) by mail-in-02-z2.arcor-online.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 26B1D19868C for ; Mon, 12 Dec 2005 20:54:35 +0100 (CET) Received: from stronghold.seifert.lan (p5495131F.dip0.t-ipconnect.de [84.149.19.31]) (Authenticated sender: julian.seifert@arcor.de) by mail-in-05.arcor-online.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BA5B0D018C for ; Mon, 12 Dec 2005 20:54:34 +0100 (CET) Received: from nirvana.seifert.lan ([192.168.0.130] helo=localhost.localdomain) by stronghold.seifert.lan with esmtp (Exim 3.36 #1 (Debian)) id 1Eltkp-0002CY-00 for ; Mon, 12 Dec 2005 20:54:35 +0100 Date: Mon, 12 Dec 2005 20:54:43 +0100 From: "Julian D. Seifert" To: questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20051212205443.261175ca@localhost.localdomain> Organization: seifert X-Mailer: Sylpheed-Claws 1.0.5 (GTK+ 1.2.10; i486-pc-linux-gnu) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary=Signature_Mon__12_Dec_2005_20_54_43_+0100_gjsv2WLS79DiG.Ms; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=pgp-sha1 Cc: Subject: FreeBSD as nis client using Linux nis server X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 12 Dec 2005 19:55:36 -0000 --Signature_Mon__12_Dec_2005_20_54_43_+0100_gjsv2WLS79DiG.Ms Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi List, I was told there are no bigger problems using nis with Linux as server so i tried to configure my Freebsd6.0 to use my Linux nis server. (Linux 2.6.12 Debian sarge ypserv 2.14 I followed the advises from: http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/network-nis.html on how to configure fbsd as nis client. I used "vipw" to change the passwd file and added the correct number of ":".=20 ypcat passwd works fine - ypbind is running rc.conf: nis_client_enable=3D"YES" nisdomainname=3D"seifert.lan" rpcbind_enable=3D"YES" nsswitch.conf: group: compat group_compat: nis passwd: compat passwd_compat: nis The problem is I can't login as an user that wasn't locally added. User foo exists on the nis server. On all other machines I can login as foo without any problems. My freebsd denies access for user foo. On the consoel with "login incorrect" and when I try to login using ssh I get an error: Dec 12 19:56:49 miraculix sshd[609]: error: PAM: authentication error for illegal user foo from stronghold.seifert.lan bye, Julian `alamar` Seifert --=20 Where patience fails, force prevails. =20 gpg fingerprint:=20 435D DDDA 251B 9D70 2F72 78E0 AA5F 11F4 A4ED 451E --Signature_Mon__12_Dec_2005_20_54_43_+0100_gjsv2WLS79DiG.Ms Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.2 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFDndWGql8R9KTtRR4RAliOAKDAbbI6waKGLlYkwW+6v4kyi0O/TACdHFFB KBsrhvnPjmLvvlpFF2PEax8= =4Pdj -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Signature_Mon__12_Dec_2005_20_54_43_+0100_gjsv2WLS79DiG.Ms-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Dec 12 19:58:27 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 472B416A41F for ; Mon, 12 Dec 2005 19:58:27 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from freebsd@softodrom.ru) Received: from softodrom.ru (softodrom.ru [83.222.5.38]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 783E143DA8 for ; Mon, 12 Dec 2005 19:58:10 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from freebsd@softodrom.ru) Received: (qmail 31320 invoked by uid 85); 12 Dec 2005 20:00:30 -0000 Received: from 83.142.166.118 by softodrom.ru (envelope-from , uid 89) with qmail-scanner-1.25 (clamdscan: 0.87/1146. Clear:RC:0(83.142.166.118):. Processed in 0.968128 secs); 12 Dec 2005 20:00:30 -0000 X-Qmail-Scanner-Mail-From: freebsd@softodrom.ru via softodrom.ru X-Qmail-Scanner: 1.25 (Clear:RC:0(83.142.166.118):. Processed in 0.968128 secs) Received: from unknown (HELO pool-83-142-166-118.chelcom.ru) (freebsd@softodrom.ru@83.142.166.118) by 0 with SMTP; 12 Dec 2005 20:00:29 -0000 Date: Tue, 13 Dec 2005 01:00:29 +0500 From: FreeBSD Maillists X-Mailer: The Bat! (v3.62.14) Professional X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1955919659.20051213010029@softodrom.ru> To: freebsd In-Reply-To: <20051212111336.2ab7cd58.europa100@comcast.net> References: <20051212111336.2ab7cd58.europa100@comcast.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1251 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: Re: Firefox 1.5_5.1 now crashed system on startup X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: FreeBSD Maillists List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 12 Dec 2005 19:58:27 -0000 > I am using FreeBSD 6.0 release and Firefox 1.5_5.1. With my old kernel > which did not have SMP and hyperthreading enabled, it would just run > the cpu up to 100% upon startup. Now with SMP and hyperthreading > enabled it locks up the computer and I have to give the computer a hard > power down. The cpu is a P4. > Any hints as to what might be going on are appreciated. It's a new bug (with workable exploit) in Firefox 1.5. Delete file history.dat from you Firefox 1.5 installation. http://www.softodrom.ru/win/blogs/b717.shtml (In Russian) http://www.securitylab.ru/poc/extra/242789.php (In English) --=20 =D1 =F3=E2=E0=E6=E5=ED=E8=E5=EC, FreeBSD mailto:freebsd@softodrom.ru From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Dec 12 19:59:04 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 90ED316A438 for ; Mon, 12 Dec 2005 19:59:04 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from freebsd-questions-local@be-well.ilk.org) Received: from mail2.sea5.speakeasy.net (mail2.sea5.speakeasy.net [69.17.117.4]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9C9BB43D7D for ; Mon, 12 Dec 2005 19:58:56 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from freebsd-questions-local@be-well.ilk.org) Received: (qmail 25842 invoked from network); 12 Dec 2005 19:58:54 -0000 Received: from dsl092-078-145.bos1.dsl.speakeasy.net (HELO be-well.ilk.org) ([66.92.78.145]) (envelope-sender ) by mail2.sea5.speakeasy.net (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for ; 12 Dec 2005 19:58:54 -0000 Received: by be-well.ilk.org (Postfix, from userid 1147) id A850728423; Mon, 12 Dec 2005 14:58:52 -0500 (EST) Sender: lowell@be-well.ilk.org To: arnuld References: <449a85a0512100435s2db64a01sc4e243220a35b4f@mail.gmail.com> From: Lowell Gilbert Date: Sun, 11 Dec 2005 18:05:22 -0500 In-Reply-To: <449a85a0512100435s2db64a01sc4e243220a35b4f@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <441x0iw0hv.fsf@be-well.ilk.org> Lines: 152 User-Agent: Gnus/5.09 (Gnus v5.9.0) Emacs/21.3 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD5.4 - GUI fails X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 12 Dec 2005 19:59:04 -0000 arnuld writes: > I will be as brief as i can on explaining my problem: > > 1.) here is my architecture: > > i.) AMD64 -> processor > ii.) ASUS K8V-MX -> motherboard > iii.) LG 17'' Studioworks 775N -> monitor > HorizSyns = 30-70 kHz > Vertsync = 50-160 Hz > Resolution Max. = 1280x1024 @ 60 Hz > > IV.) i do not know about video-card but when FC-4 istallation uses > "anaconda" to > probe the video-card of my system, it shows: vesa driver > (generic) Okay, that sounds fine. > > 2.) I have "FreeBSD-5.4 CDs for x86" architecture. regarding this i posted > the question on FreeBSD mailing-list & many > people told me that these same CDs will work on AMD64 because AMD64 is > backward compatible with 32 bit > computing. Correct. > 3.) PROBLEM: > > I tried to install it on my system and got the following results: > > i.) FreeBSD is installed (i did all ports/packages installation) > but some packages (total 6) could not be installed,it says "installation > failed", they are: > > a.) php > b.) apache > c.) 1 more package related to apache > c.) apache-mod+perl > d.) bash > e.) 1 dependency of bash > > all of these raise "error-code 1". except these 6 everything else > like GNOME, KDE, emacs, xpdf, gv is installed without any problem I don't believe you're intended to install *everything* on the CDs. Some of them seem to interfere with each other. You can always go back and install them later, so there is no reason to install anything until you *know* you want it. The error code 1 doesn't mean anything; it's just the "make" program reporting that something reported an error to *it*. You need to look back a little farther to see the real problem, but in all likelihood, the problem is just that you installed too many things and they got in each other's way. > ii.) FreeBSD boots with login prompt: only in shell mode,no GUI at > all. ( in freeBSd handbook section 2.9.12 i came to > know that X server configuration fascility has been removed > since 5.3 release, so i go to chapter 5 to configure X > myself) > > iii.) I configure GUI by using: Xorg -configure. It creates a file > named "xorg.conf.new" in my current directory which is > root's home directory. Next if i try to: Xorg -config > xorg.conf.new, my screen goes blank with the message "OUT OF > FREQUENCY" & with message something like: > > Frequency: > HF 75 Hz ( i do know whether it is Hz, KHz or GHz) > VF 60 Hz > operating frequency: > HF 30-70 Hz (again i do not know) > VF 50-160 Hz > > iv.) What i do is 1st add the lines "HorizSyns 30-70, VertRefresh > 50-160" (fom monitor-manual) into monitor section & > "Modes "1024x768" into display section of "xorg.conf.new" & > then use the same command to configure it. it works > and shows a yellowish desktop with 1an X and X moves as i move > my cursor. Well, you at least have X running at that point. You may be able to optimize it, but deal with one problem at a time. > v.) Then i use "xdm" command to enter into GUI, of course it enters into > GUI with prompt > box names "Welcome to 1" with login name & password , i enter both > of then & then i press "enter". screen goes off > for a second and reappears with same "Welcome 1" box. I enter login > name and password again and same thing > happens. i press "ctrl+Alt+backspace" 2 times and go back to shell > mode. For xdm and similar login managers, you need a .xsession script. If it exits, then the X server resets (so you want a script that doesn't exit). [If you don't have an .xsession, then the default script is in /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/xdm/Xsession, which "exec"s xsm, a simple X session manager. This means that the session gets reset as soon as xsm exits, which you can do from an on-screen menu.] > vi.) i came to know in section 5.7 that GNOME is disabled by > default,so i enable it by adding "gdm_enable="YES" > into "/etc/rc.conf" and then reboot my machine, after that i > again use "xdm" and same thing i explained in > previous step, happens. (but FreeBSD Handbook says "no further > configuration is required, after enabling GNOME, > it will work without any problem" BUT i do have a problem) You are confusing gdm with Gnome. gdm is the Gnome login screen, but if you have a .xsession script, that is still what will get used to set up your X session. I believe that you need to put "gnome-session" into your .xsession. > vii.) I tried another thing ( to use GNOME directly)as explained in > 'chapter 5" of FreeBSD handbook. i create ".xsession" > file rather than ".xinitc" (as freeBSD uses xdm). I put a line > "/usr/X11R6/bin/gnome-session" into it. > > then i enter into shell the following command > > # % echo "#!/bin/sh" > ~/.xsession" I think the syntax in those directions assumes you are running an sh-style shell. The idea is to create a ~/.xsession file that contains the lines #!/bin/sh and /usr/X11R6/bin/gnome-session but you can do that with an editor if you want. To use the sh-style syntax, just type "/bin/sh" and you'll be running sh instead of csh. > after pressing enter it says "/bin/sh: event not found". ( i made a check > into /bin directory, "sh" file is present there). anyway i use "startx" and > it takes me to a yellowish desktop with one login shell and 2 xterm shells > (all are like bash shell). but no menu, no icons, no GNOME or real desktop > thing. i enter commands "emacs, ggv, gv etc.) and all of these application > open in GUI mode but it is disgusting. also icons of this desktop are too > small to be seen. Right. That's xsm. > i reboot and the try xdm and same thing "Welcome to 1" as in "step v" > happens but no GNOME. May you please help on this? Please tell me whether > this is a hardware issue or do i need to do some configuration. I think if you get the right .xsession file, as described through this message, you will be well on your way. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Dec 12 20:06:24 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EA95416A420 for ; Mon, 12 Dec 2005 20:06:24 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from cswiger@mac.com) Received: from pi.codefab.com (pi.codefab.com [199.103.21.227]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9AC1D43D53 for ; Mon, 12 Dec 2005 20:05:59 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from cswiger@mac.com) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pi.codefab.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 813D3606C; Mon, 12 Dec 2005 15:05:57 -0500 (EST) Received: from pi.codefab.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (pi.codefab.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 17261-03; Mon, 12 Dec 2005 15:05:56 -0500 (EST) Received: from [192.168.1.3] (pool-68-161-122-227.ny325.east.verizon.net [68.161.122.227]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by pi.codefab.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B87945E80; Mon, 12 Dec 2005 15:05:56 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <439DD825.7000604@mac.com> Date: Mon, 12 Dec 2005 15:05:57 -0500 From: Chuck Swiger Organization: The Courts of Chaos User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.7 (Windows/20050923) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Jean-Paul Natola References: <3A85D7EF44E1C744BF6434691F5659E9672D3B@fci-ex.FCI> In-Reply-To: <3A85D7EF44E1C744BF6434691F5659E9672D3B@fci-ex.FCI> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.93.0.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at codefab.com Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: DNS refresh X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 12 Dec 2005 20:06:25 -0000 Jean-Paul Natola wrote: > Sorry for the novice question, > > How does one go about refreshing a dns record on BSD box (without rebooting), > it is NOT a DNS server. Most BSD networks do not have dynamic DNS updating enabled on their nameservers, but that is the capability you seem to be asking about. If your network does have this enabled, it's possible that using dhclient to release and renew a DHCP lease on the BSD machine would be the right approach. Otherwise, change the zone file on the primary DNS server directly by hand. -- -Chuck From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Dec 12 20:10:38 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0AA3316A41F for ; Mon, 12 Dec 2005 20:10:38 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from europa100@comcast.net) Received: from sccrmhc13.comcast.net (sccrmhc13.comcast.net [63.240.77.83]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9043043D53 for ; Mon, 12 Dec 2005 20:10:36 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from europa100@comcast.net) Received: from lm741n.had1.or.comcast.net. (c-24-20-8-31.hsd1.or.comcast.net[24.20.8.31]) by comcast.net (sccrmhc13) with SMTP id <20051212201035013003jtl9e>; Mon, 12 Dec 2005 20:10:35 +0000 Date: Mon, 12 Dec 2005 12:10:24 -0800 From: Rob Lytle To: freebsd Message-Id: <20051212121024.503fd911.europa100@comcast.net> In-Reply-To: <6610469498.20051213005004@softodrom.ru> References: <20051212111336.2ab7cd58.europa100@comcast.net> <6610469498.20051213005004@softodrom.ru> X-Mailer: Sylpheed version 2.0.0 (GTK+ 2.6.9; i386-portbld-freebsd6.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Subject: Re: Firefox 1.5_5.1 now crashed system on startup X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 12 Dec 2005 20:10:38 -0000 On Tue, 13 Dec 2005 00:50:04 +0500 FreeBSD Maillists wrote: > > I am using FreeBSD 6.0 release and Firefox 1.5_5.1. With my old kernel > > which did not have SMP and hyperthreading enabled, it would just run > > the cpu up to 100% upon startup. Now with SMP and hyperthreading > > enabled it locks up the computer and I have to give the computer a hard > > power down. The cpu is a P4. > > > Any hints as to what might be going on are appreciated. > > It's a new bug (with workable exploit) in Firefox 1.5. > Delete file history.dat from you Firefox 1.5 installation. > > http://www.softodrom.ru/win/blogs/b717.shtml (In Russian) > http://www.securitylab.ru/poc/extra/242789.php (In English) > > -- > С уважением, > FreeBSD mailto:freebsd@softodrom.ru > I went and tried that, but I still ended up crashing my computer. I wonder if I should delete the whole ~/.mozilla/firefox directory? Perhaps it is corrupted. Rob. -- ------------------ http://home.comcast.net/~europa100 A SETI-like Search for Intelligent Life in Central Pa. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Dec 12 20:14:52 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B33A916A41F for ; Mon, 12 Dec 2005 20:14:52 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from list-freebsd-2004@morbius.sent.com) Received: from out4.smtp.messagingengine.com (out4.smtp.messagingengine.com [66.111.4.28]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4214D43D4C for ; Mon, 12 Dec 2005 20:14:52 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from list-freebsd-2004@morbius.sent.com) Received: from frontend1.internal (mysql-sessions.internal [10.202.2.149]) by frontend1.messagingengine.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5FA63D23EB3 for ; Mon, 12 Dec 2005 15:14:50 -0500 (EST) Received: from frontend2.messagingengine.com ([10.202.2.151]) by frontend1.internal (MEProxy); Mon, 12 Dec 2005 15:14:50 -0500 X-Sasl-enc: OGKL7A0xnkfvcX6vzMY/W50hp4INa2YeAzb0dR2E58UH 1134418489 Received: from gumby.localdomain (88-104-200-164.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com [88.104.200.164]) by frontend2.messagingengine.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 78C7257145C for ; Mon, 12 Dec 2005 15:14:49 -0500 (EST) From: RW To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Mon, 12 Dec 2005 20:14:47 +0000 User-Agent: KMail/1.8.3 References: <000601c5ff28$9fb71e00$46933c50@Medion> <17309.37575.337162.532084@jerusalem.litteratus.org> In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200512122014.48999.list-freebsd-2004@morbius.sent.com> Subject: Re: Slices X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 12 Dec 2005 20:14:52 -0000 On Monday 12 December 2005 16:08, Sasa Stupar wrote: Robert Huff > > You can also do the same as I did. I have just configured one slice named / > which takes all the space on hdd and now I don't need to worry about space > shortage. If you do that you will need to manually turn-on soft-updates, which are off by default for /, otherwise the performance will be poor. This doesn't matter in a normal layout as / is normally small, and not much writes to it. If this is an old computer that can't boot beyond 1k cylinders, there is also the possibilty that the slice becomes unbootable after a future kernel update. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Dec 12 20:30:41 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B335916A420 for ; Mon, 12 Dec 2005 20:30:41 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from drew@mykitchentable.net) Received: from relay04.roc.ny.frontiernet.net (relay04.roc.ny.frontiernet.net [66.133.182.167]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 21EDA43D86 for ; Mon, 12 Dec 2005 20:30:26 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from drew@mykitchentable.net) Received: from blacklamb.mykitchentable.net (67-137-46-178.dsl2.elk.ca.frontiernet.net [67.137.46.178]) by relay04.roc.ny.frontiernet.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0D3F3358373; Mon, 12 Dec 2005 20:30:21 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [192.168.25.6] (unknown [192.168.25.6]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by blacklamb.mykitchentable.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CED41153D22; Mon, 12 Dec 2005 12:30:20 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <439DDDDB.2080902@mykitchentable.net> Date: Mon, 12 Dec 2005 12:30:19 -0800 From: Drew Tomlinson User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (Windows/20041206) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Ted Mittelstaedt References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new-2.3.2 (20050629) at filter05.roc.ny.frontiernet.net Cc: Michael Vince , danial_thom@yahoo.com, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, Kris Kennaway Subject: Polling For 100 mbps Connections? (Was Re: Freebsd Theme Song) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 12 Dec 2005 20:30:41 -0000 On 12/12/2005 8:13 AM Ted Mittelstaedt wrote: >Michael, > > Fundamentally, here's the problem Danial is claiming exists: > >it takes a certain amount of time to get the packet clocked in >from the network into the ethernet receiver. This is hardware >dependent and cannot be changed. > >It takes a certain amount of time to get the packet out of >the hardware in the ethernet card into main ram, this also >hardware dependent and cannot be changed. (unless the device >driver is terribly inefficient, which we will assume it's not) > >Once in main ram, the information in the packet has to go through >a number of code statements. The more code statements the >longer the information in the packet is sitting around in >the FreeBSD system's memory. > >It then takes a certain amount of time to get the information >out of main memory into the other sending ethernet nic's buffers, > >and it takes time to get it out of the sending nic back to the >wire. > >Danial is claiming the slowness is in the main ram section of >things, not in the ethernet driver code. > >polling makes the ethernet driver more efficient at high data >rates, but it does nothing for the speed of processing within >the TCPIP stack itself. At low data rates polling is less >efficient than the interrupt method. And unless the nic driver >is terribly inefficient to start with, the time it adds to the >packet path in the system is minor compared to the time spent >in the TCP/IP stack. > >Ted > > Thanks for the explanation. So would polling be beneficial or detrimental for a 100 mbps Ethernet card? Not sure if 100 mbps is considered "high" or "low" speed. I'm specifically interested in NetGear cards using the dc driver or DLink cards using the rl driver. Thanks, Drew -- Visit The Alchemist's Warehouse Magic Tricks, DVDs, Videos, Books, & More! http://www.alchemistswarehouse.com From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Dec 12 20:32:24 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DD85616A422 for ; Mon, 12 Dec 2005 20:32:24 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jnatola@familycareintl.org) Received: from mail.familycareintl.org (mail.familycareintl.org [68.167.21.154]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 87D7943D86 for ; Mon, 12 Dec 2005 20:32:13 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jnatola@familycareintl.org) Date: Mon, 12 Dec 2005 15:32:10 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-ID: <3A85D7EF44E1C744BF6434691F5659E9672D5B@fci-ex.FCI> X-MS-Has-Attach: Content-class: urn:content-classes:message X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: DNS refresh Thread-Index: AcX/WU8FQKcsuItMTaGUmgvq2jlC2AAAGCHg From: "Jean-Paul Natola" To: "Chuck Swiger" Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: RE: DNS refresh X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 12 Dec 2005 20:32:25 -0000 -----Original Message----- From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org [mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org] On Behalf Of Chuck Swiger Sent: Monday, December 12, 2005 3:06 PM To: Jean-Paul Natola Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: DNS refresh Jean-Paul Natola wrote: > Sorry for the novice question,=20 >=20 > How does one go about refreshing a dns record on BSD box (without rebooting), > it is NOT a DNS server. Most BSD networks do not have dynamic DNS updating enabled on their nameservers, but that is the capability you seem to be asking about. If your network = does have this enabled, it's possible that using dhclient to release and = renew a DHCP lease on the BSD machine would be the right approach. Otherwise, change the zone file on the primary DNS server directly by = hand. --=20 -Chuck _______________________________________________ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to = "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" Heres the situation=20 I'm in windows environment mainly, I recently setup a BSD box (static = IP, and DNS pointing to the windows DNS server) With Exim, SA and CLAM_AV All has been running relatively well (3 months give or take) Till today I started getting this: milter# freshclam ClamAV update process started at Mon Dec 12 15:05:34 2005 WARNING: DNS record is older than 3 hours. WARNING: Invalid DNS reply. Falling back to HTTP mode. Google gave me=20 http://www.google.com/search?hl=3Den&q=3DDNS+record+is+older+than+3+hours= &btnG=3DGo ogle+Search One tell me that's its ok There is no reason to be concerned - most likely you have a caching DNS server at the gateway and this is causing it. DNS query is designed to minimise load on the datbase server when determining if the database = version is uptodate. But if this method fails it would just query the database = server The other , leaves me wondering I get this error when running freshclam: Invalid DNS reply. Falling back = to HTTP mode or ERROR: Can't query current.cvd.clamav.net . What does it = mean?=20 There is a problem with your DNS server. Please check the entries in /etc/resolv.conf and verify that you can resolve the TXT record = manually: $ host -t txt current.cvd.clamav.net If you can't, it means your network is broken. You'll be still able to download the updates, but you'll waste a lot of bandwidth checking for updates. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Dec 12 20:34:36 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7063516A41F for ; Mon, 12 Dec 2005 20:34:36 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from freebsd@softodrom.ru) Received: from softodrom.ru (softodrom.ru [83.222.5.38]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4B36C43D4C for ; Mon, 12 Dec 2005 20:34:33 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from freebsd@softodrom.ru) Received: (qmail 34378 invoked by uid 85); 12 Dec 2005 20:36:55 -0000 Received: from 83.142.166.118 by softodrom.ru (envelope-from , uid 89) with qmail-scanner-1.25 (clamdscan: 0.87/1146. Clear:RC:0(83.142.166.118):. Processed in 0.066368 secs); 12 Dec 2005 20:36:55 -0000 X-Qmail-Scanner-Mail-From: freebsd@softodrom.ru via softodrom.ru X-Qmail-Scanner: 1.25 (Clear:RC:0(83.142.166.118):. 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(v3.62.14) Professional X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <42028775.20051213013656@softodrom.ru> To: freebsd In-Reply-To: <20051212121024.503fd911.europa100@comcast.net> References: <20051212111336.2ab7cd58.europa100@comcast.net> <6610469498.20051213005004@softodrom.ru> <20051212121024.503fd911.europa100@comcast.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: Re[2]: Firefox 1.5_5.1 now crashed system on startup X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: FreeBSD Maillists List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 12 Dec 2005 20:34:36 -0000 >> > I am using FreeBSD 6.0 release and Firefox 1.5_5.1. With my old kernel >> > which did not have SMP and hyperthreading enabled, it would just run >> > the cpu up to 100% upon startup. Now with SMP and hyperthreading >> > enabled it locks up the computer and I have to give the computer a hard >> > power down. The cpu is a P4. >>=20 >> > Any hints as to what might be going on are appreciated. >>=20 >> It's a new bug (with workable exploit) in Firefox 1.5. >> Delete file history.dat from you Firefox 1.5 installation. >>=20 >> http://www.softodrom.ru/win/blogs/b717.shtml (In Russian) >> http://www.securitylab.ru/poc/extra/242789.php (In English) > I went and tried that, but I still ended up crashing my computer. I > wonder if I should delete the whole ~/.mozilla/firefox directory? > Perhaps it is corrupted. Quote from http://www.securitylab.ru/poc/extra/242789.php >The next time that firefox is >opened, it will instantly crash due to a buffer overflow -- this will >happen everytime until you manually delete the history.dat file -- which >most users won't figure out. Maybe problem in something other... --=20 =D0=A1 =D1=83=D0=B2=D0=B0=D0=B6=D0=B5=D0=BD=D0=B8=D0=B5=D0=BC, FreeBSD mailto:freebsd@softodrom.ru From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Dec 12 21:00:04 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E26D216A420 for ; Mon, 12 Dec 2005 21:00:04 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ecrist@secure-computing.net) Received: from grog.secure-computing.net (grog.secure-computing.net [216.243.161.73]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DEC1F43D67 for ; Mon, 12 Dec 2005 21:00:01 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ecrist@secure-computing.net) Received: from [192.168.1.6] (snipe.secure-computing.net [216.243.161.77]) (authenticated bits=0) by grog.secure-computing.net (8.13.3/8.13.3) with ESMTP id jBCL18Ta096956 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-SHA bits=128 verify=NOT); Mon, 12 Dec 2005 15:01:08 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from ecrist@secure-computing.net) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; s=grog; d=secure-computing.net; c=nofws; q=dns; h=in-reply-to:references:mime-version:content-type:message-id:cc: content-transfer-encoding:from:subject:date:to:x-mailer:x-spam-status:x-spam-checker-version; b=C/M729e7Oyr6xs2vajjACl6LPPblBzb+E5kiOpj/G4qw42mt1+s0XVEdZ66AMhu/D T0N7vSJ6JX9boBPz952gA== In-Reply-To: <1134397159.6334.21.camel@columbus> References: <1134397159.6334.21.camel@columbus> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v746.2) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: <51DFA823-B090-47A5-905C-08A198206CBE@secure-computing.net> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Eric F Crist Date: Mon, 12 Dec 2005 14:59:48 -0600 To: Robert Fitzpatrick X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.746.2) X-Spam-Status: No, score=-3.9 required=4.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,AWL,BAYES_00, J_CHICKENPOX_48 autolearn=ham version=3.1.0 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.0 (2005-09-13) on grog.secure-computing.net Cc: FreeBSD Subject: Re: Reaching kern.maxfiles X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 12 Dec 2005 21:00:05 -0000 On Dec 12, 2005, at 8:19 AM, Robert Fitzpatrick wrote: > Been running this FreeBSD 5.2.1 server since 5.2 was released, > never had > an issue couldn't resolve, especially with the help of this and other > lists. Now I'm stumped. I posted this issue last week, someone > suggested > I look at: > Robert, Why are you _still_ running 5.2x? Really, you should be running 5.4. Try an upgrade and let us know if that fixes your problem. There are MANY issues with 5.2.1, and it's never been a truly stable release. ----- Eric F Crist Secure Computing Networks http://www.secure-computing.net From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Dec 12 21:07:51 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C5AFF16A420 for ; Mon, 12 Dec 2005 21:07:51 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from dick@nagual.st) Received: from nagual.st (cc20684-a.assen1.dr.home.nl [82.74.2.186]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6CCA843D66 for ; Mon, 12 Dec 2005 21:07:51 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from dick@nagual.st) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) (uid 1000) by nagual.st with local; Mon, 12 Dec 2005 22:07:49 +0100 id 0003982D.439DE6A5.00010D75 Date: Mon, 12 Dec 2005 22:07:49 +0100 From: dick hoogendijk To: fbsdq Message-Id: <20051212220749.370c4c08.dick@nagual.st> Organization: de nagual X-Mailer: Sylpheed version 2.1.8 (GTK+ 2.8.9; i386-portbld-freebsd6.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: mplayerplug-in woes X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 12 Dec 2005 21:07:51 -0000 Anybody an idea as why mplayerplug-in _does_ start up and work in firefox and with mozilla states that the right plugin needs to be downloaded. The same file shows up with firefox and does not with mozilla. Both browsers are fbsd versions. I don't know where to look. -- dick -- http://nagual.st/ -- PGP/GnuPG key: F86289CE ++ Running FreeBSD 6.0 +++ The Power to Serve From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Dec 12 21:16:47 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D698D16A420 for ; Mon, 12 Dec 2005 21:16:47 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: from rosebud.otenet.gr (rosebud.otenet.gr [195.170.0.94]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DFED143D6B for ; Mon, 12 Dec 2005 21:16:46 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: from flame.pc (aris.bedc.ondsl.gr [62.103.39.226]) by rosebud.otenet.gr (8.13.4/8.13.4/Debian-8) with SMTP id jBCLGcpG014759; Mon, 12 Dec 2005 23:16:39 +0200 Received: by flame.pc (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 4D60A115BB; Mon, 12 Dec 2005 23:15:48 +0200 (EET) Date: Mon, 12 Dec 2005 23:15:48 +0200 From: Giorgos Keramidas To: Bill Herbert Message-ID: <20051212211547.GA7327@flame.pc> References: <200512121949.jBCJntRa036369@maine.60north.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <200512121949.jBCJntRa036369@maine.60north.net> Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Terminal changes between freebsd 5 and 6 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 12 Dec 2005 21:16:48 -0000 On 2005-12-12 14:46, Bill Herbert wrote: > Hey folks, strange problem over here attempting to run Lone-Tar on > FreeBSD6. More specifically the scheduler 'crony' included with the program. > When invoking crony I get the error: crony: ERROR: Sorry, can not find the > necessary terminal control codes. Runs fine on freebsd5. This was reported > to the folks at lone-tar but they don't officially support freebsd6 as of > yet and I got a canned response of 'works over here'. Any ideas of which > direction I should look? What escape codes are they looking for and why? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Dec 12 21:18:56 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5F19116A45B for ; Mon, 12 Dec 2005 21:18:55 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from freebsd@redry.net) Received: from luke.segpub.com.au (luke.segpub.com.au [64.49.254.38]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 263F243D72 for ; Mon, 12 Dec 2005 21:18:27 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from freebsd@redry.net) Received: (qmail 44050 invoked by uid 89); 13 Dec 2005 08:18:24 +1100 Received: by simscan 1.1.0 ppid: 43995, pid: 44002, t: 3.3698s scanners: clamav: 0.87/m:34/d:1169 spam: 3.1.0 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.0 (2005-09-13) on luke.segpub.com.au X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.6 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=3.1.0 Received: from unknown (HELO ?192.168.1.33?) (213.202.142.173) by 0 with SMTP; 13 Dec 2005 08:18:21 +1100 In-Reply-To: <42028775.20051213013656@softodrom.ru> References: <20051212111336.2ab7cd58.europa100@comcast.net> <6610469498.20051213005004@softodrom.ru> <20051212121024.503fd911.europa100@comcast.net> <42028775.20051213013656@softodrom.ru> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v746.2) X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: eoghan Date: Mon, 12 Dec 2005 21:18:19 +0000 To: FreeBSD Maillists X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.746.2) Cc: freebsd Subject: Re: Re[2]: Firefox 1.5_5.1 now crashed system on startup X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 12 Dec 2005 21:18:56 -0000 On 12 Dec 2005, at 20:36, FreeBSD Maillists wrote: >>>> I am using FreeBSD 6.0 release and Firefox 1.5_5.1. With my old >>>> kernel >>>> which did not have SMP and hyperthreading enabled, it would just >>>> run >>>> the cpu up to 100% upon startup. Now with SMP and hyperthreading >>>> enabled it locks up the computer and I have to give the computer >>>> a hard >>>> power down. The cpu is a P4. >>> >>>> Any hints as to what might be going on are appreciated. >>> >>> It's a new bug (with workable exploit) in Firefox 1.5. >>> Delete file history.dat from you Firefox 1.5 installation. >>> >>> http://www.softodrom.ru/win/blogs/b717.shtml (In Russian) >>> http://www.securitylab.ru/poc/extra/242789.php (In English) > >> I went and tried that, but I still ended up crashing my computer. I >> wonder if I should delete the whole ~/.mozilla/firefox directory? >> Perhaps it is corrupted. > > Quote from http://www.securitylab.ru/poc/extra/242789.php >> The next time that firefox is >> opened, it will instantly crash due to a buffer overflow -- this will >> happen everytime until you manually delete the history.dat file -- >> which >> most users won't figure out. > > Maybe problem in something other... I running 6.0-RELEASE and just upgraded to 1.5. It doesnt open for me at all. Where do you find the history.dat file? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Dec 12 21:21:34 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 404E616A41F for ; Mon, 12 Dec 2005 21:21:34 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from martinkov@pobox.sk) Received: from smtp.dkm.cz (smtp.dkm.cz [62.24.64.34]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 15B7443D8E for ; Mon, 12 Dec 2005 21:21:14 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from martinkov@pobox.sk) Received: (qmail 30531 invoked by uid 0); 12 Dec 2005 21:21:12 -0000 Received: from r5k4.chello.upc.cz (HELO ?86.49.10.4?) (86.49.10.4) by smtp.dkm.cz with SMTP; 12 Dec 2005 21:21:12 -0000 Message-ID: <439DE9C8.5080606@pobox.sk> Date: Mon, 12 Dec 2005 22:21:12 +0100 From: martinko User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.7.12) Gecko/20051205 X-Accept-Language: sk, cs, en-gb, en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Scot Hetzel References: <790a9fff0512121059y73d97f2eub06e88f77a63461c@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <790a9fff0512121059y73d97f2eub06e88f77a63461c@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Subject: Re: pkgtools.conf make arguments ignored (?!?) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 12 Dec 2005 21:21:34 -0000 Scot Hetzel wrote: >On 12/11/05, martinko wrote: > > >>hello, >> >>i'm having troubles with specifying make arguments to portupgrade via >>/usr/local/etc/pkgtools.conf. >>this is a part of my config file: >> >> MAKE_ARGS = { >> 'x11/yelp' => 'WITH_MAN=1 WITH_INFO=1 WITH_GECKO=mozilla', >> } >> >>it works only if i run `portupgrade -N yelp` >>but it does not work when i run eg `portupgrade -N gnome2-lite` >> >>interesting thing is that according to pkgtools.conf itself the >>following should work too but it does not : >> >> MAKE_ARGS = { >> 'x11/yelp-*' => 'WITH_MAN=1 WITH_INFO=1 WITH_GECKO=mozilla', >> } >> >>is this a known issue (and why?) or am i doing something wrong ?? >> >> >> >Do you have an entry in the MAKE_ARGS for x11/gnome2-lite? As your >example doesn't show an entry for it. > >Scot > > well, i want to set an entry for x11/yelp. and i expect portupgrade to take that entry into account whenever it compiles x11/yelp. whether it is compiled directly or indirectly as a dependency. (for i might want to compile gnome2-office port instead and of course i do not want to create an entry for every possible combination. i do not expect pkgtools to work this way.) martin From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Dec 12 21:36:41 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6CEB916A420 for ; Mon, 12 Dec 2005 21:36:41 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from freebsd@redry.net) Received: from luke.segpub.com.au (luke.segpub.com.au [64.49.254.38]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B36F143D67 for ; Mon, 12 Dec 2005 21:36:40 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from freebsd@redry.net) Received: (qmail 58442 invoked by uid 89); 13 Dec 2005 08:36:40 +1100 Received: by simscan 1.1.0 ppid: 58366, pid: 58371, t: 3.9275s scanners: clamav: 0.87/m:34/d:1169 spam: 3.1.0 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.0 (2005-09-13) on luke.segpub.com.au X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.6 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=3.1.0 Received: from unknown (HELO ?192.168.1.33?) (213.202.142.173) by 0 with SMTP; 13 Dec 2005 08:36:36 +1100 In-Reply-To: References: <20051212111336.2ab7cd58.europa100@comcast.net> <6610469498.20051213005004@softodrom.ru> <20051212121024.503fd911.europa100@comcast.net> <42028775.20051213013656@softodrom.ru> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v746.2) X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: <55F1AE74-B23E-4874-84AE-473C3AA31311@redry.net> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: eoghan Date: Mon, 12 Dec 2005 21:35:41 +0000 To: eoghan X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.746.2) Cc: FreeBSD Maillists , freebsd Subject: Re: Re[2]: Firefox 1.5_5.1 now crashed system on startup X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 12 Dec 2005 21:36:41 -0000 On 12 Dec 2005, at 21:18, eoghan wrote: > On 12 Dec 2005, at 20:36, FreeBSD Maillists wrote: > >>>>> I am using FreeBSD 6.0 release and Firefox 1.5_5.1. With my >>>>> old kernel >>>>> which did not have SMP and hyperthreading enabled, it would >>>>> just run >>>>> the cpu up to 100% upon startup. Now with SMP and hyperthreading >>>>> enabled it locks up the computer and I have to give the >>>>> computer a hard >>>>> power down. The cpu is a P4. >>>> >>>>> Any hints as to what might be going on are appreciated. >>>> >>>> It's a new bug (with workable exploit) in Firefox 1.5. >>>> Delete file history.dat from you Firefox 1.5 installation. >>>> >>>> http://www.softodrom.ru/win/blogs/b717.shtml (In Russian) >>>> http://www.securitylab.ru/poc/extra/242789.php (In English) >> >>> I went and tried that, but I still ended up crashing my computer. I >>> wonder if I should delete the whole ~/.mozilla/firefox directory? >>> Perhaps it is corrupted. >> >> Quote from http://www.securitylab.ru/poc/extra/242789.php >>> The next time that firefox is >>> opened, it will instantly crash due to a buffer overflow -- this >>> will >>> happen everytime until you manually delete the history.dat file >>> -- which >>> most users won't figure out. >> >> Maybe problem in something other... > > I running 6.0-RELEASE and just upgraded to 1.5. It doesnt open for > me at all. > Where do you find the history.dat file? Ok I have it. Deleted it too and trying to run it in KDE, it doesnt load for me either. Not sure where I should look for any error logged? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Dec 12 21:34:44 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8071116A41F for ; Mon, 12 Dec 2005 21:34:44 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from danial_thom@yahoo.com) Received: from web33312.mail.mud.yahoo.com (web33312.mail.mud.yahoo.com [68.142.206.127]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 6AA9A43D79 for ; Mon, 12 Dec 2005 21:34:39 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from danial_thom@yahoo.com) Received: (qmail 52459 invoked by uid 60001); 12 Dec 2005 21:34:37 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:Received:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=EVZ2zhDSI/iosJAbwOZAVTLlsJ/wj1yY1MhOeH041c5aIhuUd1mCZYvY3JxN++4Mte+G1iih2zI34xwvlto0sHDx87ToP/PjVFvVAyHsWidLT1ogUMg5/ZavdnD3gz1fZTOvHcN40j5MMM1hGLTjwZjEvMNU9l58nfDwemNyIJo= ; Message-ID: <20051212213437.52457.qmail@web33312.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Received: from [24.46.186.215] by web33312.mail.mud.yahoo.com via HTTP; Mon, 12 Dec 2005 13:34:37 PST Date: Mon, 12 Dec 2005 13:34:37 -0800 (PST) From: Danial Thom To: Drew Tomlinson , Ted Mittelstaedt In-Reply-To: <439DDDDB.2080902@mykitchentable.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Mailman-Approved-At: Mon, 12 Dec 2005 21:43:19 +0000 Cc: Michael Vince , danial_thom@yahoo.com, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, Kris Kennaway Subject: Re: Polling For 100 mbps Connections? (Was Re: Freebsd Theme Song) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: danial_thom@yahoo.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 12 Dec 2005 21:34:44 -0000 --- Drew Tomlinson wrote: > On 12/12/2005 8:13 AM Ted Mittelstaedt wrote: > > >Michael, > > > > Fundamentally, here's the problem Danial is > claiming exists: > > > >it takes a certain amount of time to get the > packet clocked in > >from the network into the ethernet receiver. > This is hardware > >dependent and cannot be changed. > > > >It takes a certain amount of time to get the > packet out of > >the hardware in the ethernet card into main > ram, this also > >hardware dependent and cannot be changed. > (unless the device > >driver is terribly inefficient, which we will > assume it's not) > > > >Once in main ram, the information in the > packet has to go through > >a number of code statements. The more code > statements the > >longer the information in the packet is > sitting around in > >the FreeBSD system's memory. > > > >It then takes a certain amount of time to get > the information > >out of main memory into the other sending > ethernet nic's buffers, > > > >and it takes time to get it out of the sending > nic back to the > >wire. > > > >Danial is claiming the slowness is in the main > ram section of > >things, not in the ethernet driver code. > > > >polling makes the ethernet driver more > efficient at high data > >rates, but it does nothing for the speed of > processing within > >the TCPIP stack itself. At low data rates > polling is less > >efficient than the interrupt method. And > unless the nic driver > >is terribly inefficient to start with, the > time it adds to the > >packet path in the system is minor compared to > the time spent > >in the TCP/IP stack. > > > >Ted > > > > > > Thanks for the explanation. So would polling > be beneficial or > detrimental for a 100 mbps Ethernet card? Not > sure if 100 mbps is > considered "high" or "low" speed. I'm > specifically interested in > NetGear cards using the dc driver or DLink > cards using the rl driver. I don't think I'm claiming that at all. The slowness is in the latency and inefficiencies of the scheduler and whatever other kernel "stuff" (locking, general overheads). The entire point of the tests are that the managing of the packets is a constant, in that its the same hardware and mostly the same code. Now I suppose its possible that the em driver could just be slower in 5.4 and 6.0, but the code is fundamentally the same, so it should be a constant. So since the processing of the packets is a constant, then if you can process less packets on the same machine the overhead of the OS must be the culprit. It could be the code, particularly if you've compiled with a different compiler, but there are only slight variations in code performance generally, unless some macro was changed that say, efficts 100s of thousands of I/O operations per second and adds a few cycles to each. Polling is only beneficial if your ethernet card actually interrupts for every event, which few likely do. Intel cards (fxp and em driver) have built-in hold offs so you get the supposed benefits of polling without all the overhead. fxp cards will never interrupt more then 6000 times per second, and em cards have a tunable with the default at 8000. DT __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Dec 12 21:44:56 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 54B0916A420 for ; Mon, 12 Dec 2005 21:44:56 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from cswiger@mac.com) Received: from pi.codefab.com (pi.codefab.com [199.103.21.227]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C164D43D8B for ; Mon, 12 Dec 2005 21:44:49 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from cswiger@mac.com) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pi.codefab.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 126446062; Mon, 12 Dec 2005 16:44:46 -0500 (EST) Received: from pi.codefab.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (pi.codefab.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 61701-03; Mon, 12 Dec 2005 16:44:45 -0500 (EST) Received: from [192.168.1.3] (pool-68-161-122-227.ny325.east.verizon.net [68.161.122.227]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by pi.codefab.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 28A615FC8; Mon, 12 Dec 2005 16:44:45 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <439DEF4E.5080108@mac.com> Date: Mon, 12 Dec 2005 16:44:46 -0500 From: Chuck Swiger Organization: The Courts of Chaos User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.7 (Windows/20050923) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Jean-Paul Natola References: <3A85D7EF44E1C744BF6434691F5659E9672D5B@fci-ex.FCI> In-Reply-To: <3A85D7EF44E1C744BF6434691F5659E9672D5B@fci-ex.FCI> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.93.0.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at codefab.com Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: DNS refresh X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 12 Dec 2005 21:44:56 -0000 Jean-Paul Natola wrote: > I'm in windows environment mainly, I recently setup a BSD box (static IP, and > DNS pointing to the windows DNS server) > > With Exim, SA and CLAM_AV > > All has been running relatively well (3 months give or take) > > Till today I started getting this: > > milter# freshclam > ClamAV update process started at Mon Dec 12 15:05:34 2005 > WARNING: DNS record is older than 3 hours. > WARNING: Invalid DNS reply. Falling back to HTTP mode. Presumably your Windows-based nameserver is having problems, and should be patched and/or rebooted. :-) Alternatively, you could point your BSD machine to another nameserver which is working properly by editting /etc/resolv.conf. -- -Chuck From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Dec 12 22:20:36 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E18D616A41F for ; Mon, 12 Dec 2005 22:20:36 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jinmtb@sbcglobal.net) Received: from smtp107.sbc.mail.mud.yahoo.com (smtp107.sbc.mail.mud.yahoo.com [68.142.198.206]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 2E91343D5F for ; Mon, 12 Dec 2005 22:20:34 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jinmtb@sbcglobal.net) Received: (qmail 76232 invoked from network); 12 Dec 2005 22:20:33 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?192.168.2.10?) (jinmtb@sbcglobal.net@68.127.176.52 with plain) by smtp107.sbc.mail.mud.yahoo.com with SMTP; 12 Dec 2005 22:20:33 -0000 Message-ID: <439DF835.9080508@sbcglobal.net> Date: Mon, 12 Dec 2005 14:22:45 -0800 From: "Jin Guojun [VFFS]" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.7.5) Gecko/20050108 X-Accept-Language: zh, zh-CN, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Subject: How to configue ssmtp for authentication? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 12 Dec 2005 22:20:37 -0000 Try to use send-pr but cannot get ssmtp to work with DSL ISP mail server, because ISP mail server requires password for authentication. I could not find information on how to configure SSMTP to pass password to the ISP mail server. Can someone tell me if SSMTP is possible to accomplish such task? or I need to use some other mail programs. TIA, -Jin From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Dec 12 22:35:37 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5764516A41F for ; Mon, 12 Dec 2005 22:35:37 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from bob@bobleeit.net) Received: from fed1rmmtao10.cox.net (fed1rmmtao10.cox.net [68.230.241.29]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DFB9D43D45 for ; Mon, 12 Dec 2005 22:35:36 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from bob@bobleeit.net) Received: from mach.bobleeit.net ([24.251.222.159]) by fed1rmmtao10.cox.net (InterMail vM.6.01.05.02 201-2131-123-102-20050715) with SMTP id <20051212223443.SZXZ20441.fed1rmmtao10.cox.net@mach.bobleeit.net> for ; Mon, 12 Dec 2005 17:34:43 -0500 Received: by mach.bobleeit.net (sSMTP sendmail emulation); Mon, 12 Dec 2005 15:35:30 -0700 From: "Bob Lee" Date: Mon, 12 Dec 2005 15:35:30 -0700 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20051212223530.GA15072@mach.bobleeit.net> References: <439DF835.9080508@sbcglobal.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="TB36FDmn/VVEgNH/" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <439DF835.9080508@sbcglobal.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.11 Subject: Re: How to configue ssmtp for authentication? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Bob Lee List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 12 Dec 2005 22:35:37 -0000 --TB36FDmn/VVEgNH/ Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Quoting Jin Guojun [VFFS] : > Try to use send-pr but cannot get ssmtp to work with DSL ISP mail server, > because ISP mail server requires password for authentication. >=20 > I could not find information on how to configure SSMTP to pass password > to the ISP mail server. > Can someone tell me if SSMTP is possible to accomplish such task? or I ne= ed > to use some other mail programs. >=20 I remember somewhere that you could use the following: AuthUser=3D AuthPass=3D I don't think this covered in the man page and I am afraid I can't remember where I got it from. I don't think this will work with ssl, but if all they need is a uid and pw, it just might. Put this in the conf file. Good luck, Bob --=20 Robert Lee PGP: D3EE2268 pgp.mit.edu I prefer email in plain text --TB36FDmn/VVEgNH/ Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.2 (NetBSD) iD8DBQFDnfsyX1c+K9PuImkRAt1SAJ9odCjA68oTtrJj4Lcsf2ir+uJ8nQCfYaS0 ZKdc74eEEJInBHVeLqSoONk= =f9uk -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --TB36FDmn/VVEgNH/-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Dec 12 22:45:34 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DADA716A41F for ; Mon, 12 Dec 2005 22:45:34 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jayesh.freebsdlist@gmail.com) Received: from xproxy.gmail.com (xproxy.gmail.com [66.249.82.193]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3C36643D5F for ; Mon, 12 Dec 2005 22:45:34 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jayesh.freebsdlist@gmail.com) Received: by xproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id t12so1133006wxc for ; Mon, 12 Dec 2005 14:45:33 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type; b=b9O9HAGx8KzSdffvCFMxdbIr0Te0GZNcauz0bik2Xk8/WsglRVy0PhMTx+99z0aGwgc2SHN5Ht4EGx2rVRiR+6Eq0KAdF71zE/ywWNRa/YBkip9E9IMy1blcWpZVngNTF4HrNf+HkW8iSeBKU3vbtT325u4no1/ds6MtVaLxr2w= Received: by 10.70.21.18 with SMTP id 18mr2817892wxu; Mon, 12 Dec 2005 14:45:32 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.70.7.2 with HTTP; Mon, 12 Dec 2005 14:45:32 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: Date: Tue, 13 Dec 2005 04:15:32 +0530 From: Jayesh Jayan To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: May be a question repeated X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 12 Dec 2005 22:45:35 -0000 Hi, I have a server which runs Apache/1.3.33 (Unix) and exim 4.53-0 on a FreeBS= D 5.4. I wanted to upgrade exim to 4.60 so i did the below steps 1 ) cd /usr/ports/mail/exim 2 ) make clean 3 ) make at this step the make stops saying openssl already installed. I have on the server OpenSSL 0.9.7e and exim is trying to upgrade even open ssl to the latest. This may break http and other services running on the server. Error message is as below ***************************************************************************= *************************************** =3D=3D=3D> Installing for openssl-0.9.8a =3D=3D=3D> Generating temporary packing list =3D=3D=3D> Checking if security/openssl already installed pkg_info: package bsdpan-CPAN-1.80 has no origin recorded pkg_info: package bsdpan-Filesys-Statvfs_Statfs_Df-0.78 has no origin recorded pkg_info: package bsdpan-GDGraph-1.43 has no origin recorded pkg_info: package bsdpan-GDTextUtil-0.86 has no origin recorded pkg_info: package bsdpan-IO-Interactive-undef has no origin recorded pkg_info: package bsdpan-MailTools-1.67 has no origin recorded pkg_info: package bsdpan-Net_SSLeay.pm-1.25 has no origin recorded pkg_info: package bsdpan-ShadowHash-0.07 has no origin recorded pkg_info: package bsdpan-Term-ReadLine-Perl-1.0203 has no origin recorded pkg_info: package bsdpan-TermReadKey-2.30 has no origin recorded pkg_info: package bsdpan-Tie-Watch-1.2 has no origin recorded pkg_info: package bsdpan-Tree-MultiNode-1.0.10 has no origin recorded pkg_info: package bsdpan-libwww-perl-5.803 has no origin recorded pkg_info: package bsdpan-libwww-perl-5.804 has no origin recorded pkg_info: package bsdpan-libwww-perl-5.805 has no origin recorded =3D=3D=3D> An older version of security/openssl is already installed ( openssl-0.9.7e_2) You may wish to ``make deinstall'' and install this port again by ``make reinstall'' to upgrade it properly. If you really wish to overwrite the old port of security/openssl without deleting it first, set the variable "FORCE_PKG_REGISTER" in your environment or the "make install" command line. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/ports/security/openssl. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/ports/mail/exim. ***************************************************************************= *************************************** Please guide me on how I can upgrade exim without effecting other services running on the server. -- Jayesh Jayan "The box said "Requires Windows 95, NT, or better", so I installed Linux." Visit my homepage @ http://www.jayeshjayan.com From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Dec 12 23:03:24 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B276C16A41F for ; Mon, 12 Dec 2005 23:03:24 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from willmaier@ml1.net) Received: from out4.smtp.messagingengine.com (out4.smtp.messagingengine.com [66.111.4.28]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4DF9343D5F for ; Mon, 12 Dec 2005 23:03:24 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from willmaier@ml1.net) Received: from frontend1.internal (mysql-sessions.internal [10.202.2.149]) by frontend1.messagingengine.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9D264D24032 for ; Mon, 12 Dec 2005 18:03:22 -0500 (EST) Received: from frontend2.messagingengine.com ([10.202.2.151]) by frontend1.internal (MEProxy); Mon, 12 Dec 2005 18:03:22 -0500 X-Sasl-enc: /CIZ//xVwedVgCWFlOlmexJdILPn2vYb97PxHBrE3DK1 1134428601 Received: from localhost (mdsnwikwbas08-pool4-a199.mdsnwikw.tds.net [69.129.195.199]) by frontend2.messagingengine.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 21171571433 for ; Mon, 12 Dec 2005 18:03:20 -0500 (EST) Date: Mon, 12 Dec 2005 17:04:18 -0600 From: Will Maier To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20051212230418.GM2413@merkur.atekomi.net> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <439DF835.9080508@sbcglobal.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <439DF835.9080508@sbcglobal.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.9i Subject: Re: How to configue ssmtp for authentication? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 12 Dec 2005 23:03:24 -0000 On Mon, Dec 12, 2005 at 02:22:45PM -0800, Jin Guojun [VFFS] wrote: > I could not find information on how to configure SSMTP to pass > password to the ISP mail server. Can someone tell me if SSMTP is > possible to accomplish such task? or I need to use some other mail > programs. I'm not sure if ssmtp can do authenticated SMTP relay, but msmtp can. It's also in the ports tree; I think you'll find its man page more useful. -- o--------------------------{ Will Maier }--------------------------o | jabber:..wcmaier@jabber.ccc.de | email:..........wcmaier@ml1.net | | \.........wcmaier@cae.wisc.edu | \..........wcmaier@cae.wisc.edu | *------------------[ BSD Unix: Live Free or Die ]------------------* From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Dec 12 23:21:09 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5420F16A41F for ; Mon, 12 Dec 2005 23:21:09 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from chris@childeric.freeserve.co.uk) Received: from smtp-out2.blueyonder.co.uk (smtp-out2.blueyonder.co.uk [195.188.213.5]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 985DA43D5E for ; Mon, 12 Dec 2005 23:21:05 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from chris@childeric.freeserve.co.uk) Received: from [192.168.10.60] ([82.35.113.87]) by smtp-out2.blueyonder.co.uk with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.6713); Mon, 12 Dec 2005 23:22:00 +0000 Message-ID: <439E0581.4020507@childeric.freeserve.co.uk> Date: Mon, 12 Dec 2005 23:19:29 +0000 From: Chris Whitehouse User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.7 (X11/20051017) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <20051212040744.66038.qmail@web54201.mail.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <20051212040744.66038.qmail@web54201.mail.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-OriginalArrivalTime: 12 Dec 2005 23:22:00.0899 (UTC) FILETIME=[DA9CC930:01C5FF72] Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD starter machine X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 12 Dec 2005 23:21:09 -0000 Matt S. Gann wrote: > I have a few questions about FreeBSD. I am just beginning to get into UNIX. I know a few line commands, but really want to get familiar and comfortable with the OS. I have been intrugued by FreeBSD for many years now, but I own a windows-based PC and am not keen about running dual OS's. I would like to get a cheap, used, small desktop or laptop to "tinker" with Unix/Linix and FreeBSD. However, I know little to nothing about system requirements and/or hardware compability. I was thinking of an old 486 or Pentium 1 to get started. Any thoughts on what I could start with? A way to use your current machine for both operating systems without dual booting is to install a second hard disk, install FreeBSD and select which to boot from in the bios. It's a slight faff changing boot disk but works fine and keeps the OS's completely separate. OT; I still have a PC I made with three HD's plugged in to a home made ide cable with an extra connector and a three position switch on the front which switches power to only one disk. All three disks are effectively primary master so whichever has power when the computer is turned on boots. I never had the courage to switch while the computer was running! Whichever way you go FreeBSD is a very rewarding OS. Chris From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Dec 12 23:38:06 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7FD0116A423 for ; Mon, 12 Dec 2005 23:38:06 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from heshammarei@yahoo.com) Received: from web54311.mail.yahoo.com (web54311.mail.yahoo.com [206.190.49.121]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 2F21B43DD8 for ; Mon, 12 Dec 2005 23:37:40 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from heshammarei@yahoo.com) Received: (qmail 34619 invoked by uid 60001); 12 Dec 2005 23:37:37 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=kzjdg+6j+ciWj8tUHRCiAqNIGnLamrSbJrZwSWqyyji+1aa+nrJ+h26nDum8KbCXLmYdcf8578e9Q/e8jxG5RA9znaaK9UUl/8+0QjcKKTo3NEU1ob6hzURplvL8tOt8UK6XFiA1BM8g2zTMW/lGcdfVJ3Lckjk6Z82FxuZXlfM= ; Message-ID: <20051212233737.34617.qmail@web54311.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [131.130.127.236] by web54311.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Mon, 12 Dec 2005 15:37:37 PST Date: Mon, 12 Dec 2005 15:37:37 -0800 (PST) From: hesham marei To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Subject: What are the supported wireless PCI cards under freeBSD? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 12 Dec 2005 23:38:06 -0000 Hi Where can I find a list of the supported wireless PCI cards for freeBSD? I have tried google and the handBook. But I couldn't find a simple clear answer. I am new for FreeBSD and my experience is just linux. Is there any especial recommendation to wireless PCI? Does Linksys Wireless PCI CARD network works under freeBSD? How can I know the chipset sold on the PCI card? Regards Hesham Marei. Regards Hesham Marei __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Dec 12 23:51:54 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AD6EB16A41F for ; Mon, 12 Dec 2005 23:51:54 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from pietro.cerutti@gmail.com) Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.204]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9DE8E43D53 for ; Mon, 12 Dec 2005 23:51:53 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from pietro.cerutti@gmail.com) Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 8so1510741nzo for ; Mon, 12 Dec 2005 15:51:53 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=V9hZxvTPi4+MegX+8puS3WS9JUcHF+qUhjXq39OVKKvZOBcox5fgsHu96gPqrnB9qguf3II/Uf6qViG/PImn94Ed/HTGcNclPpQe2TWxuAWVHz7dFI4DXE1PFdvS3ki/UcTMAxkCxzud1dJTzOvVG8Ua+6OW8VCz4rVz9Y4qaZY= Received: by 10.64.208.18 with SMTP id f18mr178998qbg; Mon, 12 Dec 2005 15:51:52 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.64.150.18 with HTTP; Mon, 12 Dec 2005 15:51:52 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: Date: Tue, 13 Dec 2005 00:51:52 +0100 From: Pietro Cerutti To: hesham marei , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <20051212233737.34617.qmail@web54311.mail.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline References: <20051212233737.34617.qmail@web54311.mail.yahoo.com> Cc: Subject: Re: What are the supported wireless PCI cards under freeBSD? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 12 Dec 2005 23:51:54 -0000 On 12/13/05, hesham marei wrote: > Hi Hi, > > Where can I find a list of the supported wireless PCI > cards for freeBSD? > I am new for FreeBSD and my experience is just linux. Look at the release notes for your version. I suggest you to start with 6.0, since the wireless support has been greatly improved. Here's the hardward support notes for 6.0 on i386, finding info for other releases / architectures shouldn't be a problem ;) http://www.freebsd.org/releases/6.0R/relnotes-i386.html#PROC > > Regards > > Hesham Marei Kind regards, -- Pietro Cerutti Beansidhe - SwiSS Death / Thrash Metal Windows: "Where do you want to go today?" Linux: "Where do you want to go tomorrow?" FreeBSD: "Are you guys coming or what?" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Dec 12 23:55:44 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0E08D16A41F for ; Mon, 12 Dec 2005 23:55:44 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from pietro.cerutti@gmail.com) Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.204]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 89DEE43D55 for ; Mon, 12 Dec 2005 23:55:43 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from pietro.cerutti@gmail.com) Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 69so4256wri for ; Mon, 12 Dec 2005 15:55:42 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=dYbMs2AZuPx655rEdpWuwzd9dpfJ9GiyWfZ/Rk0Za7I8SCW3++oBsDDeTSm53il6c9+6WOdnaQ1vg/g2XvFQgOMty2zJfgXRbN7Tf9D4dKuYsOL79AC0axFknUBXslH6YR52r19lselvBSQPYiKnbVpDoM274LAAmlV02ueKgwI= Received: by 10.64.251.2 with SMTP id y2mr2789072qbh; Mon, 12 Dec 2005 15:55:42 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.64.150.18 with HTTP; Mon, 12 Dec 2005 15:55:40 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: Date: Tue, 13 Dec 2005 00:55:40 +0100 From: Pietro Cerutti To: Chris Whitehouse , FreeBSD In-Reply-To: <439E0581.4020507@childeric.freeserve.co.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline References: <20051212040744.66038.qmail@web54201.mail.yahoo.com> <439E0581.4020507@childeric.freeserve.co.uk> Cc: Subject: Re: FreeBSD starter machine X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 12 Dec 2005 23:55:44 -0000 On 12/13/05, Chris Whitehouse wrote: > > A way to use your current machine for both operating systems without > dual booting is to install a second hard disk, install FreeBSD and > select which to boot from in the bios. It's a slight faff changing boot > disk but works fine and keeps the OS's completely separate. > Could you please tell me the problems which could rise using dual boot? I really can't imagine any, since the two (or more) OSes are on different slices, and can't interfere which each other in any way. Thanx, -- Pietro Cerutti Beansidhe - SwiSS Death / Thrash Metal Windows: "Where do you want to go today?" Linux: "Where do you want to go tomorrow?" FreeBSD: "Are you guys coming or what?" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Dec 12 23:58:21 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C496416A41F for ; Mon, 12 Dec 2005 23:58:21 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jdow@earthlink.net) Received: from smtpauth01.mail.atl.earthlink.net (smtpauth01.mail.atl.earthlink.net [209.86.89.61]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5748943D5A for ; Mon, 12 Dec 2005 23:58:21 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jdow@earthlink.net) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=dk20050327; d=earthlink.net; b=uDY/WHvYyFByUiwMmSqQ5ydORKKdpq54UT4iAzZlQKqqhHlEIVOFwutZMO7xHPHI; h=Received:Message-ID:From:To:Cc:References:Subject:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Priority:X-MSMail-Priority:X-Mailer:X-MimeOLE:X-ELNK-Trace:X-Originating-IP; Received: from [71.116.179.184] (helo=kittycat) by smtpauth01.mail.atl.earthlink.net with asmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1ElxYh-0002rH-MC; Mon, 12 Dec 2005 18:58:20 -0500 Message-ID: <0fef01c5ff77$f4b8f3c0$1225a8c0@kittycat> From: "jdow" To: "Giorgos Keramidas" , "Jan Krediet" References: <000601c5ff28$9fb71e00$46933c50@Medion> <20051212144948.GB2325@flame.pc> Date: Mon, 12 Dec 2005 15:58:31 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2670 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2670 X-ELNK-Trace: bb89ecdb26a8f9f24d2b10475b57112083551d87a2b06eaf782c4715fbc4fdf47a190f5852ddf19e350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c X-Originating-IP: 71.116.179.184 Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: [OT] age Re: Slices X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 12 Dec 2005 23:58:21 -0000 From: "Giorgos Keramidas" >> Another thing for your information: I'm almost 56 years and for me >> it is fun to learn. > > Great to hear that. A lot of people give up on learning new things > much much earlier. I suspect you'll find that the BSD and Linux lists will have more people of any age who enjoy learning. (I am stuck earning income on a NT related machines. And even those developer lists are graying. I do admit to being one of the extreme cases. Even 56 years old is young enough he might have had me as a babysitter.) {^_-} Joanne - if I give up learning shoot me. I'm already dead; and, my corpse is running around loose. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 13 00:15:56 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3426B16A41F for ; Tue, 13 Dec 2005 00:15:56 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from feenberg@nber.org) Received: from mail1.nber.org (mail1.nber.org [66.251.72.7]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C258643D5F for ; Tue, 13 Dec 2005 00:15:55 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from feenberg@nber.org) Received: from mail1 (root@localhost) by mail1.nber.org (8.12.8/8.12.8) with SMTP id jBD0Fw7e010747 for ; Mon, 12 Dec 2005 19:15:58 -0500 Received: from nber1.nber.org (nber1.nber.org [66.251.72.71]) by mail1.nber.org (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id jBD0FvwY010737 for ; Mon, 12 Dec 2005 19:15:58 -0500 Date: Mon, 12 Dec 2005 19:15:49 -0500 (EST) From: Daniel Feenberg To: questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Cc: Subject: diskless booting and t134 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 13 Dec 2005 00:15:56 -0000 I am trying to do diskless booting, and find it requires much esoteric knowledge. Right now I am trying to make the /conf/${class}/ function provided in FreeBSD 6.0 work. It is briefly documented in the "diskless" manpage, but with no examples. I have had success with /conf/${ip}/ but not with ${class}. I have option t134-cookie code 134=text at the beginning of my dhcpd.conf file, and option t134-cookie "client" with the other parameters for the diskless client. dhcp accepts this and goes into background. The dhcpd server is on a FreeBSD 5.2.1 system, but since any slight variation on these commands is diagnosed, I have the impression that the dhcp server is ok with these settings. I have added at /disklessroot/conf/client/etc/rc.local an identifiable file, yet when I boot the diskless client and look at /etc/rc.local on it, it is clearly not the file from conf/client/etc but the one in conf/default/etc/ I have tried using /disklessroot/conf/123.123.123.123/etc/rc.local (where actual ip address is obfusticated) and that file is correctly picked up. So the /conf system is functioning. I can't tell what might be wrong, but if I look in /etc/rc.initdiskless it does echo the value of ${class}, which in my case is blank rather than the expected "client". If I run "kenv" or "sysctl -a" and search the output for this variable, I don't see anything with "134", "cookie", or "client". My thought is that maybe the "t134" feature isn't supported in the 6.0 release kernel. I couldn't find out anything about it, other than seeing it referred to in a couple of messages as "kern.bootp_cookie". Anyone familiar with this function? I am using an unmodified 6.0 #0 kernel, with the default options. It does serve to generate a system that boots and functions (except where programs write to read-only filesystems. Thanks Daniel Feenberg feenberg isat nber dotte org From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 13 00:19:36 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C6C4C16A41F for ; Tue, 13 Dec 2005 00:19:36 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jerrymc@clunix.cl.msu.edu) Received: from clunix.cl.msu.edu (clunix.cl.msu.edu [35.9.2.10]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5C2E543D45 for ; Tue, 13 Dec 2005 00:19:36 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jerrymc@clunix.cl.msu.edu) Received: from clunix.cl.msu.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by clunix.cl.msu.edu (8.12.10+Sun/8.12.2) with ESMTP id jBD0JY38020619; Mon, 12 Dec 2005 19:19:34 -0500 (EST) Received: (from jerrymc@localhost) by clunix.cl.msu.edu (8.12.10+Sun/8.12.2/Submit) id jBD0JXqx020618; Mon, 12 Dec 2005 19:19:33 -0500 (EST) From: Jerry McAllister Message-Id: <200512130019.jBD0JXqx020618@clunix.cl.msu.edu> To: pietro.cerutti@gmail.com (Pietro Cerutti) Date: Mon, 12 Dec 2005 19:19:33 -0500 (EST) In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.5 PL7] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Chris Whitehouse , FreeBSD Subject: Re: FreeBSD starter machine X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 13 Dec 2005 00:19:36 -0000 > > On 12/13/05, Chris Whitehouse wrote: > > > > A way to use your current machine for both operating systems without > > dual booting is to install a second hard disk, install FreeBSD and > > select which to boot from in the bios. It's a slight faff changing boot > > disk but works fine and keeps the OS's completely separate. > > > > Could you please tell me the problems which could rise using dual boot? > > I really can't imagine any, since the two (or more) OSes are on > different slices, and can't interfere which each other in any way. You are right. I have had no problems at all. The only problem might come if you want to read/write the other slice from the FreeBSD slice and that is a matter of getting the stuff correctly specified - except FreeBSD can only read but not write NTFS type file systems. It can both read and write other MS filesystems. The only other controversey is over which MBR to use. I get along just fine using the plain MBR that comes with FreeBSD, but some folk can't handle their MS bootable NTFS slice being labeled ??? (entirely appropriate as I see it...) and they have to plug in some other MBR such as Grub so they can specify their own labels. Do whichever you want. It all works well. ////jerry > > Thanx, > > > -- > Pietro Cerutti > > > Beansidhe - SwiSS Death / Thrash Metal > > > Windows: "Where do you want to go today?" > Linux: "Where do you want to go tomorrow?" > FreeBSD: "Are you guys coming or what?" > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 13 00:21:31 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6C15B16A41F for ; Tue, 13 Dec 2005 00:21:31 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from gaynw@bristolsystems.com) Received: from fed1rmmtao01.cox.net (fed1rmmtao01.cox.net [68.230.241.38]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 03A7D43D7B for ; Tue, 13 Dec 2005 00:21:25 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from gaynw@bristolsystems.com) Received: from workdog ([68.228.71.3]) by fed1rmmtao01.cox.net (InterMail vM.6.01.05.02 201-2131-123-102-20050715) with ESMTP id <20051213002044.SWOZ15695.fed1rmmtao01.cox.net@workdog>; Mon, 12 Dec 2005 19:20:44 -0500 From: "Gayn Winters" To: "'hesham marei'" , Date: Mon, 12 Dec 2005 16:21:10 -0800 Message-ID: <03f901c5ff7b$1e3ea750$6501a8c0@workdog> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.4024 In-Reply-To: <20051212233737.34617.qmail@web54311.mail.yahoo.com> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 Importance: Normal Cc: Subject: RE: What are the supported wireless PCI cards under freeBSD? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 13 Dec 2005 00:21:31 -0000 > [mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org] On Behalf Of hesham marei > Sent: Monday, December 12, 2005 3:38 PM > To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > Subject: What are the supported wireless PCI cards under freeBSD? > Where can I find a list of the supported wireless PCI > cards for freeBSD? I have tried google and the > handBook. But I couldn't find a simple clear answer. The Handbook has a section (2.10) called Supported Hardware. It says look in Release Information and gives a link http://www.freebsd.org/releases/index.html. On that page if you click on Hardware Notes (for 6.0 would be best) you'll get not only the wireless card list (section 3.6), but all supported hardware. Sometimes you get more detailed information (especially on chipsets) in the man pages for the driver itself; it is always worth checking! > I am new for FreeBSD and my experience is just linux. Welcome! > Is there any especial recommendation to wireless PCI? I'm happy with my Cisco/Aironet card, but there are many newer and faster ones. Surely someone on this list will have just tried a relatively new one on 6.0! > Does Linksys Wireless PCI CARD network works under freeBSD? There are several listed in the Hardware Notes for 6.0 > How can I know the chipset sold on the PCI card? Usually the manufacturer will have the technical specifications for their products on their web site. Best of luck! -gayn Bristol Systems Inc. 714/532-6776 www.bristolsystems.com From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 13 00:29:48 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 082BE16A464 for ; Tue, 13 Dec 2005 00:29:47 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jerrymc@clunix.cl.msu.edu) Received: from clunix.cl.msu.edu (clunix.cl.msu.edu [35.9.2.10]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9F80743D5C for ; Tue, 13 Dec 2005 00:29:46 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jerrymc@clunix.cl.msu.edu) Received: from clunix.cl.msu.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by clunix.cl.msu.edu (8.12.10+Sun/8.12.2) with ESMTP id jBD0T438020666; Mon, 12 Dec 2005 19:29:04 -0500 (EST) Received: (from jerrymc@localhost) by clunix.cl.msu.edu (8.12.10+Sun/8.12.2/Submit) id jBD0T11I020665; Mon, 12 Dec 2005 19:29:01 -0500 (EST) From: Jerry McAllister Message-Id: <200512130029.jBD0T11I020665@clunix.cl.msu.edu> To: rmarella@gmail.com (Robert Marella) Date: Mon, 12 Dec 2005 19:29:01 -0500 (EST) In-Reply-To: <20051212091132.6b7e52cc@frankie.konav201.local> X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.5 PL7] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Slices X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 13 Dec 2005 00:29:48 -0000 > > On Mon, 12 Dec 2005 12:40:40 -0600 > Kevin Kinsey wrote: > > > Sasa Stupar wrote: > > > > > You can also do the same as I did. I have just configured one slice > > > named / which > > > takes all the space on hdd and now I don't need to worry about > > > space shortage. > > > > > > OK then, but suppose we have some runaway process The main two reasons for dividing up your FreeBSD disk in to partitions rather than making just one big partition are to reduce the threat of runaway processes and to manage backup and restore sizes. Think those things out to meet your needs and resources. ////jerry > > > > > > > My $0.02, > > Worth every penny! :-) > > Thank you Kevin > > Robert > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 13 00:31:59 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A24E316A420 for ; Tue, 13 Dec 2005 00:31:59 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from kdk@daleco.biz) Received: from ezekiel.daleco.biz (southernuniform.com [66.76.92.18]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0F16543D53 for ; Tue, 13 Dec 2005 00:31:58 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from kdk@daleco.biz) Received: from [192.168.2.2] ([69.27.149.254]) by ezekiel.daleco.biz (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id jBD0UMj7039430; Mon, 12 Dec 2005 18:30:43 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from kdk@daleco.biz) Message-ID: <439E1614.9050305@daleco.biz> Date: Mon, 12 Dec 2005 18:30:12 -0600 From: Kevin Kinsey User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.7.12) Gecko/20051026 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: executive@ausvision.com References: <000501c5efed$4cad7190$ac0d8b90@primary> In-Reply-To: <000501c5efed$4cad7190$ac0d8b90@primary> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Website CMS Question X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 13 Dec 2005 00:31:59 -0000 executive@ausvision.com wrote: > Hi Guys - just wondered what CMS you are using for www.freebsd.org . > Think the site looks great. Cheers! > > Kindest Regards > > Nathan Wilkinson > Ausvision: Australian Digital Media Sorry if this one's too cold to reply to; I notice no replies to what seems an honest question, and if the O.P. doesn't mind, I'll try and answer it. The site doesn't use a "CMS" exactly; it's actually maintained by tiny naked elves who come out at night, read the entire WWW for news, search the CVS repo for new things to document, and all have either a CS or marketing degree from the University of California. If you'd like to make a donation, some of our more conservative users are collecting funds to buy them clothing. :D More seriously, if you know much about Unix-like systems and so-forth: much (or all?) of the site is in SGML format and is 'automagically' rebuilt nightly by "make", using custom Makefiles. The code and content are maintained by the "FreeBSD Documentation Project" (FDP) as part of the "doc tree" which is a large part of the entire FreeBSD codebase. You can reach the FDP at doc@freebsd.org; I believe that www@freebsd.org is a more specific list for all things website related. If you don't know much about such things, we'll just call it a "proprietary solution," but that is really quite a misnomer, as all the tools are free, and the code and its documentation are under a very liberal (but non-GNU*) license, as one might expect from "FreeBSD". Finally, as regards its appearance: it recently had a face lift courtesy of Emily Boyd and the Google "Summer of Code". AFAIK, this is simply the "index" page and several other key pages ... much of the site (mail archives, user documentation, etc) still looks as it always did. The user community is divided over a few issues regarding this "lift", some technical, some personal and some sentimental, but it "is what it is" .... and that's 'nuff said on that subject, lest I begin another discussion of "what color the bikeshed ought to be". Lastly, I will make mention that FreeBSD is an excellent operating system for use in almost any server and many desktop applications. Feel free to ask any questions you like about FreeBSD; perhaps it can help your organization as it's helped others like Yahoo! and New York Internet.... Kevin Kinsey FreeBSD User *There are some GNU tools in FreeBSD that use the GNU GPL, but most of FreeBSD is "BSD licensed", and has been for decades.... -- WARNING TO ALL PERSONNEL: Firings will continue until morale improves. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 13 00:57:04 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3148A16A41F for ; Tue, 13 Dec 2005 00:57:04 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from mv@roq.com) Received: from vault.mel.jumbuck.com (ppp166-27.static.internode.on.net [150.101.166.27]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5B67D43D58 for ; Tue, 13 Dec 2005 00:57:03 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from mv@roq.com) Received: from vault.mel.jumbuck.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by vault.mel.jumbuck.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E29148A027; Tue, 13 Dec 2005 11:57:01 +1100 (EST) Received: from [192.168.46.52] (unknown [192.168.46.250]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by vault.mel.jumbuck.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id BD6898A01F; Tue, 13 Dec 2005 11:57:01 +1100 (EST) Message-ID: <439E1C5E.9070009@roq.com> Date: Tue, 13 Dec 2005 11:57:02 +1100 From: Michael Vince User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD amd64; en-US; rv:1.7.12) Gecko/20051208 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Monah Baki References: <75EEA63A-5433-418D-AC2B-74E4F6225D02@whywire.com> In-Reply-To: <75EEA63A-5433-418D-AC2B-74E4F6225D02@whywire.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV using ClamSMTP Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Freebsd 5.4+samba X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 13 Dec 2005 00:57:04 -0000 Monah Baki wrote: > Hi all, > > I just installed Freebsd 5.4 with samba 3.x, I'm running a calyx > software, and the 6 clients are winxp. > The smb.conf is as simple as possible. I noticed that some clients > are very slow to connect to the share drive and run a database search. > The server is a dell 8400 optiplex, no scsi HDD (sata I think), 3Ghz > and 512MB Ram. > I was wandering if there's a way to optimize samba, or freebsd. Right > now performance wise is worse then when they connect to the same > database on a win2003 server and I need to get the win2003 server out > of the picture. > > > Thank you The FreeBSD 5/6 kernel sometimes struggles to pass 100mbits traffic or more, so you have to enable polling. 'man polling' Compile in to your kernel and enable polling Main compile options are. options DEVICE_POLLING options HZ=1000 sysctl.conf kern.polling.idle_poll=1 kern.polling.user_frac=50 kern.polling.enable=1 Then have something like 'ifconfig em0 polling' in /etc/rc.local Mike From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 13 01:04:08 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0CC4F16A41F for ; Tue, 13 Dec 2005 01:04:08 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from gaynw@bristolsystems.com) Received: from fed1rmmtao05.cox.net (fed1rmmtao05.cox.net [68.230.241.34]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AE9E043D5A for ; Tue, 13 Dec 2005 01:04:06 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from gaynw@bristolsystems.com) Received: from workdog ([68.228.71.3]) by fed1rmmtao05.cox.net (InterMail vM.6.01.05.02 201-2131-123-102-20050715) with ESMTP id <20051213010243.QURJ17838.fed1rmmtao05.cox.net@workdog>; Mon, 12 Dec 2005 20:02:43 -0500 From: "Gayn Winters" To: "'Pietro Cerutti'" , "'Chris Whitehouse'" , "'FreeBSD'" Date: Mon, 12 Dec 2005 17:03:46 -0800 Message-ID: <03fc01c5ff81$14ae52c0$6501a8c0@workdog> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.4024 In-Reply-To: X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 Importance: Normal Cc: Subject: RE: FreeBSD starter machine X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 13 Dec 2005 01:04:08 -0000 > [mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org] On Behalf Of > Pietro Cerutti > Sent: Monday, December 12, 2005 3:56 PM > To: Chris Whitehouse; FreeBSD > Subject: Re: FreeBSD starter machine > > > On 12/13/05, Chris Whitehouse wrote: > > > > A way to use your current machine for both operating systems without > > dual booting is to install a second hard disk, install FreeBSD and > > select which to boot from in the bios. It's a slight faff > changing boot > > disk but works fine and keeps the OS's completely separate. > > > > Could you please tell me the problems which could rise using > dual boot? > > I really can't imagine any, since the two (or more) OSes are on > different slices, and can't interfere which each other in any way. One disadvantage to dual boot is that you can't get one OS to talk to the other over the net. This disadvantage is shared by the above idea. You can, however, transfer files via a shared file system, and this is worth learning. Of course, a special case is to share files via CD, floppy, jump drive, etc. If you are not careful you can mess up your boot block. Windows will do this for you without asking permission! This is easily repaired, however. While switching boot disk in the BIOS works, if you've gone to the trouble to mount a second disk and load FreeBSD on it, I'd recommend just installing the FreeBSD boot loader. In the installation process, just say "yes" to that question, and you're set! Other boot loaders have their proponents. Grub seems to be very popular. As unfriendly as it is, even the NT boot loader can be made to work (I think the Handbook has a section on this). -gayn Bristol Systems Inc. 714/532-6776 www.bristolsystems.com From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 13 01:09:34 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9206216A41F for ; Tue, 13 Dec 2005 01:09:34 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from mrl0lz@gmail.com) Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.193]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E81A143D64 for ; Tue, 13 Dec 2005 01:09:33 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from mrl0lz@gmail.com) Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id i31so1567512wra for ; Mon, 12 Dec 2005 17:09:32 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:subject:to:content-type:date:message-id:mime-version:x-mailer:content-transfer-encoding:from; b=BaWY/Tk9megaYlty+NvxLlSPThUuXhl2RAWIjAm1Udlju7TrtLXU1cTh36KlB/mNI5CsIMVKaxxOD876fuGBfJgY5eg4s9AYpAHoeZop/LPQ1u24LuTD8S3mzEDlcNNthdV1YM8+ZP8/X5B3O5uk+g7+le9ls5q8wd+pD5/jOZc= Received: by 10.54.60.39 with SMTP id i39mr42703wra; Mon, 12 Dec 2005 17:09:29 -0800 (PST) Received: from vaio ( [71.80.228.80]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id 65sm5439753wra.2005.12.12.17.09.27; Mon, 12 Dec 2005 17:09:28 -0800 (PST) To: questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain Date: Mon, 12 Dec 2005 17:09:41 -0800 Message-Id: <1134436182.1072.9.camel@vaio> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.4.2.1 FreeBSD GNOME Team Port Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Remington Cc: Subject: opensound woes with intel hda X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 13 Dec 2005 01:09:34 -0000 FreeBSD vaio 6.0-STABLE FreeBSD 6.0-STABLE #1: Sat Dec 10 17:10:52 PST 2005 mrlol@vaio:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC i386 I recently installed the latest driver from opensound.com only to find it doesnt work with Intel HDA as it is suppose to. During loading the kernel module, it comes back with: hdaudio: RIRB timeout hdaudio: RIRB timeout hdaudio: Codec attach failed (-5) oss: Probing the hardware for Intel High Definition Audio (Azalia) controller failed. their development team states that it is an issue is with FreeBSD, the exact same code works with OpenBSD, linux, and Solaris. Does anyone know what makes FBSD different, or a way to fix it? pciconf %pciconf -lv hostb0@pci0:0:0: class=0x060000 card=0x81b7104d chip=0x25908086 rev=0x03 hdr=0x00 vendor = 'Intel Corporation' device = '82915PM/GM/GMS, 82910GML Host Bridge' class = bridge subclass = HOST-PCI none0@pci0:2:0: class=0x030000 card=0x81b8104d chip=0x25928086 rev=0x03 hdr=0x00 vendor = 'Intel Corporation' device = '82915GM/GMS, 82910GML Integrated Graphics Device' class = display subclass = VGA none1@pci0:2:1: class=0x038000 card=0x81b8104d chip=0x27928086 rev=0x03 hdr=0x00 vendor = 'Intel Corporation' device = '82915GM/GMS,82910GML Mobile Express Family Graphics Controller (??)' class = display none2@pci0:27:0: class=0x040300 card=0x81bb104d chip=0x26688086 rev=0x04 hdr=0x00 vendor = 'Intel Corporation' device = '82801FB/FR/FW/FRW Intel High DefiNition Audio Controller' class = multimedia uhci0@pci0:29:0: class=0x0c0300 card=0x81b9104d chip=0x26588086 rev=0x04 hdr=0x00 vendor = 'Intel Corporation' device = '82801FB/FR/FW/FRW USB UHCI Controller' class = serial bus subclass = USB uhci1@pci0:29:1: class=0x0c0300 card=0x81b9104d chip=0x26598086 rev=0x04 hdr=0x00 vendor = 'Intel Corporation' device = '82801FB/FR/FW/FRW USB UHCI Controller' class = serial bus subclass = USB uhci2@pci0:29:2: class=0x0c0300 card=0x81b9104d chip=0x265a8086 rev=0x04 hdr=0x00 vendor = 'Intel Corporation' device = '82801FB/FR/FW/FRW USB UHCI Controller' class = serial bus subclass = USB uhci3@pci0:29:3: class=0x0c0300 card=0x81b9104d chip=0x265b8086 rev=0x04 hdr=0x00 vendor = 'Intel Corporation' device = '82801FB/FR/FW/FRW USB UHCI Controller' class = serial bus subclass = USB ehci0@pci0:29:7: class=0x0c0320 card=0x81b9104d chip=0x265c8086 rev=0x04 hdr=0x00 vendor = 'Intel Corporation' device = '82801FB/FR/FW/FRW USB 2.0 EHCI Controller' class = serial bus subclass = USB pcib1@pci0:30:0: class=0x060401 card=0x00000050 chip=0x24488086 rev=0xd4 hdr=0x01 vendor = 'Intel Corporation' device = '82801BAM/CAM/DBM (ICH2-M/3-M/4-M) Hub Interface to PCI Bridge' class = bridge subclass = PCI-PCI isab0@pci0:31:0: class=0x060100 card=0x81b9104d chip=0x26418086 rev=0x04 hdr=0x00 vendor = 'Intel Corporation' device = '82801FBM ICH6M LPC Interface Bridge' class = bridge subclass = PCI-ISA atapci0@pci0:31:1: class=0x01018a card=0x81b9104d chip=0x266f8086 rev=0x04 hdr=0x00 vendor = 'Intel Corporation' device = '82801FB/FBM Ultra ATA Storage Controllers - 266F' class = mass storage subclass = ATA none3@pci0:31:3: class=0x0c0500 card=0x81b9104d chip=0x266a8086 rev=0x04 hdr=0x00 vendor = 'Intel Corporation' device = '82801FB/FR/FW/FRW SMBus Controller' class = serial bus subclass = SMBus cbb0@pci6:3:0: class=0x060700 card=0x818f104d chip=0xac8e104c rev=0x00 hdr=0x02 vendor = 'Texas Instruments (TI)' device = 'PCI7420 FireWire + CardBuss Controller' class = bridge subclass = PCI-CardBus fwohci0@pci6:3:2: class=0x0c0010 card=0x818f104d chip=0x802e104c rev=0x00 hdr=0x00 vendor = 'Texas Instruments (TI)' device = 'PCI7x20 1394a-2000 OHCI Two-Port PHY/Link-Layer Controller' class = serial bus subclass = FireWire none4@pci6:3:3: class=0x018000 card=0x8190104d chip=0xac8f104c rev=0x00 hdr=0x00 vendor = 'Texas Instruments (TI)' device = 'PCI7420/PCI7620 Dual Socket CardBus and Smart Card Cont. w/ 1394a-2000 OHCI Two-Port PHY/Link' class = mass storage iwi0@pci6:4:0: class=0x028000 card=0x27518086 chip=0x42208086 rev=0x05 hdr=0x00 vendor = 'Intel Corporation' device = 'PRO/Wireless 2200BG Network Connection' class = network fxp0@pci6:8:0: class=0x020000 card=0x81d0104d chip=0x10688086 rev=0x04 hdr=0x00 vendor = 'Intel Corporation' device = '82562ET/EZ/GT/GZ PRO/100 VE (LOM) Ethernet Controller Mobile' class = network subclass = ethernet From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 13 01:12:33 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CA38C16A41F for ; Tue, 13 Dec 2005 01:12:33 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from gentoo@tmgcon.com) Received: from tmgcon.com (tmgcon.com [204.202.11.250]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 98F8643D49 for ; Tue, 13 Dec 2005 01:12:33 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from gentoo@tmgcon.com) Received: from gentoo.lan.tmgcon.com (222-153-226-30.jetstream.xtra.co.nz [222.153.226.30]) (authenticated bits=0) by tmgcon.com (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id jBD1CU81047168 for ; Tue, 13 Dec 2005 01:12:31 GMT From: Tom Munro Glass To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Tue, 13 Dec 2005 14:12:24 +1300 User-Agent: KMail/1.8.3 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200512131412.24449.gentoo@tmgcon.com> Subject: Problem installing devel/pear X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 13 Dec 2005 01:12:33 -0000 I had pear-PEAR installed until a couple of days ago, but I removed it while upgrading various ports and am now trying to install devel/pear but it keeps failing with Signal 11. Here's the output: # make install ===> Installing for pear-1.4.5_1 ===> pear-1.4.5_1 depends on file: /usr/local/include/php/main/php.h - found ===> pear-1.4.5_1 depends on file: /usr/local/lib/php/20020429/pcre.so - found ===> pear-1.4.5_1 depends on file: /usr/local/lib/php/20020429/xml.so - found ===> Generating temporary packing list ===> Checking if devel/pear already installed Using local package: PEAR.............ok Using local package: Archive_Tar......ok Using local package: Console_Getopt....ok Using local package: XML_RPC..........ok Bootstrapping: PEAR...................(local) ok Bootstrapping: Archive_Tar............(local) ok Bootstrapping: Console_Getopt.........(local) ok Extracting installer..................ok *** Signal 11 Stop in /ports/devel/pear. Can someone please tell me how to fix this? Thx, Tom From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 13 02:10:05 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A150E16A420 for ; Tue, 13 Dec 2005 02:10:05 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from akbeech@gmail.com) Received: from vfemail.net (miwi2dsl-a234.wi.tds.net [216.170.248.235]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 07FB743D67 for ; Tue, 13 Dec 2005 02:10:01 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from akbeech@gmail.com) Received: (qmail 79707 invoked by uid 85); 13 Dec 2005 02:09:58 -0000 Received: from akbeech@gmail.com by mail.vfemail.net by uid 0 with qmail-scanner-1.16 (clamscan: 0.75.1. spamassassin: 2.63. Clear:. Processed in 1.830007 secs); 13 Dec 2005 02:09:58 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?192.168.241.126?) (alaska@vfemail.net@24.237.206.237) by miwi2dsl-a234.wi.tds.net with RC4-MD5 encrypted SMTP; 13 Dec 2005 02:09:56 -0000 From: Beecher Rintoul Organization: NorthWind Communications To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Mon, 12 Dec 2005 17:09:37 -0900 User-Agent: KMail/1.8.3 References: <20051212040744.66038.qmail@web54201.mail.yahoo.com> <439E0581.4020507@childeric.freeserve.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <439E0581.4020507@childeric.freeserve.co.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="nextPart6003204.8Z3aChB46N"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=pgp-sha1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <200512121709.52314.akbeech@gmail.com> Cc: Chris Whitehouse Subject: Re: FreeBSD starter machine X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 13 Dec 2005 02:10:05 -0000 --nextPart6003204.8Z3aChB46N Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline On Monday 12 December 2005 02:19 pm, Chris Whitehouse wrote: > Matt S. Gann wrote: > > I have a few questions about FreeBSD. I am just beginning to get into > > UNIX. I know a few line commands, > > but really want to get familiar and comfortable with the OS. I have > been intrugued by FreeBSD for many > years now, but I own a windows-based PC and am not keen about running > dual OS's. I would like to get a > cheap, used, small desktop or laptop to "tinker" with Unix/Linix and > FreeBSD. However, I know little > to nothing about system requirements and/or hardware compability. I was > thinking of an old 486 or Pentium > 1 to get started. Any thoughts on what I could start with? Although you can run FreeBSD on a 486 I wouldn't recommend it. Rebuilding t= he=20 system from sources took two full days. Also if you plan to run "X" and=20 something like KDE you will find it painfully slow. One of my boxes is a=20 500MHz Celeron which is quite usable. If you have a reasonably fast box I=20 concur with just adding a second drive. You can always mount your windows=20 drive and copy files into FreeBSD. Except for some proprietary apps you wil= l=20 find plenty of software in the FreeBSD ports to do just about anything you= =20 can do in windows. =20 > > A way to use your current machine for both operating systems without > dual booting is to install a second hard disk, install FreeBSD and > select which to boot from in the bios. It's a slight faff changing boot > disk but works fine and keeps the OS's completely separate. > > OT; I still have a PC I made with three HD's plugged in to a home made > ide cable with an extra connector and a three position switch on the > front which switches power to only one disk. All three disks are > effectively primary master so whichever has power when the computer is > turned on boots. I never had the courage to switch while the computer > was running! > > Whichever way you go FreeBSD is a very rewarding OS. > > Chris > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" =2D-=20 =2D------------------------------------------------------------------------= =2D------------- Beech Rintoul - System Administrator - akbeech@gmail.com /"\ ASCII Ribbon Campaign | NorthWind Communications \ / - NO HTML/RTF in e-mail | 201 East 9th Avenue Ste.310 X - NO Word docs in e-mail | Anchorage, AK 99501 / \ - Please visit Alaska Paradise - http://akparadise.byethost33.com =2D------------------------------------------------------------------------= =2D------------- --nextPart6003204.8Z3aChB46N Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.2 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQBDni1wVq19LUoGB+MRAhNwAJwJMg9aJ5XAJ5OrxsnW8M1n5/NyKgCgpVwQ ZzUIfGh15d6ZsQd+MxuCX3U= =vHoC -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --nextPart6003204.8Z3aChB46N-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 13 02:29:41 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3D55216A420 for ; Tue, 13 Dec 2005 02:29:41 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from derek@computinginnovations.com) Received: from betty.computinginnovations.com (dsl081-142-072.chi1.dsl.speakeasy.net [64.81.142.72]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 55F5443D5D for ; Tue, 13 Dec 2005 02:29:39 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from derek@computinginnovations.com) Received: from p17.computinginnovations.com (dhcp-10-20-30-100.computinginnovations.com [10.20.30.100]) (authenticated bits=0) by betty.computinginnovations.com (8.13.5/8.12.11) with ESMTP id jBD2TEDx068363; Mon, 12 Dec 2005 20:29:14 -0600 (CST) Message-Id: <6.0.0.22.2.20051212202300.027be6c0@mail.computinginnovations.com> X-Sender: derek@mail.computinginnovations.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 6.0.0.22 Date: Mon, 12 Dec 2005 20:29:06 -0600 To: "Jean-Paul Natola" , "Chuck Swiger" From: Derek Ragona In-Reply-To: <3A85D7EF44E1C744BF6434691F5659E9672D5B@fci-ex.FCI> References: <3A85D7EF44E1C744BF6434691F5659E9672D5B@fci-ex.FCI> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-ComputingInnovations-MailScanner-Information: Please contact the ISP for more information X-ComputingInnovations-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-MailScanner-From: derek@computinginnovations.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: RE: DNS refresh X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 13 Dec 2005 02:29:41 -0000 At 02:32 PM 12/12/2005, Jean-Paul Natola wrote: >-----Original Message----- >From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org >[mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org] On Behalf Of Chuck Swiger >Sent: Monday, December 12, 2005 3:06 PM >To: Jean-Paul Natola >Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org >Subject: Re: DNS refresh > >Jean-Paul Natola wrote: > > Sorry for the novice question, > > > > How does one go about refreshing a dns record on BSD box (without >rebooting), > > it is NOT a DNS server. > >Most BSD networks do not have dynamic DNS updating enabled on their >nameservers, >but that is the capability you seem to be asking about. If your network does >have this enabled, it's possible that using dhclient to release and renew a >DHCP >lease on the BSD machine would be the right approach. > >Otherwise, change the zone file on the primary DNS server directly by hand. > >-- >-Chuck >_______________________________________________ >freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list >http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions >To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > >Heres the situation > >I'm in windows environment mainly, I recently setup a BSD box (static IP, and >DNS pointing to the windows DNS server) > >With Exim, SA and CLAM_AV > >All has been running relatively well (3 months give or take) > >Till today I started getting this: > >milter# freshclam >ClamAV update process started at Mon Dec 12 15:05:34 2005 >WARNING: DNS record is older than 3 hours. >WARNING: Invalid DNS reply. Falling back to HTTP mode. > >Google gave me > >http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=DNS+record+is+older+than+3+hours&btnG=Go >ogle+Search > >One tell me that's its ok >There is no reason to be concerned - most likely you have a caching DNS >server at the gateway and this is causing it. DNS query is designed to >minimise load on the datbase server when determining if the database version >is uptodate. But if this method fails it would just query the database server > >The other , leaves me wondering >I get this error when running freshclam: Invalid DNS reply. Falling back to >HTTP mode or ERROR: Can't query current.cvd.clamav.net . What does it mean? > >There is a problem with your DNS server. Please check the entries in >/etc/resolv.conf and verify that you can resolve the TXT record manually: >$ host -t txt current.cvd.clamav.net >If you can't, it means your network is broken. You'll be still able to >download the updates, but you'll waste a lot of bandwidth checking for >updates. Check the DNS servers your windows DNS is using to forward requests to, your ISP may have changed one or more of their DNS servers. As an alternative you can setup your FreeBSD box as a DNS caching server, where it will forward requests to your ISP's DNS server(s) directly, taking your windows server out of the situation. -Derek From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 13 02:46:41 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9D01716A41F for ; Tue, 13 Dec 2005 02:46:41 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from yance_kowara@yahoo.com) Received: from web30306.mail.mud.yahoo.com (web30306.mail.mud.yahoo.com [68.142.200.99]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 2D96843D68 for ; Tue, 13 Dec 2005 02:46:39 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from yance_kowara@yahoo.com) Received: (qmail 3698 invoked by uid 60001); 13 Dec 2005 02:46:38 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=O4pihKeqYYZJzipxnChH58FMnYvDEqgavdZO56Q5mhLvki69AyxcMIfMem5a5a0tQqMGsEX3rF0/76D18Sn/xHLlbhg8GhWdxgicTFcYC04tgwCcG3poJXtGOVku6FbdD9dhPBZKYJ07tjqoL7d4r7TjNvysXTLbyk0wNtx3UJM= ; Message-ID: <20051213024638.3696.qmail@web30306.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Received: from [61.88.127.146] by web30306.mail.mud.yahoo.com via HTTP; Mon, 12 Dec 2005 18:46:38 PST Date: Mon, 12 Dec 2005 18:46:38 -0800 (PST) From: Yance Kowara To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <439DCA9C.4090101@wmptl.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Subject: Re: FreeBSD router two DSL connections X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 13 Dec 2005 02:46:41 -0000 > >>Hmmmmmm, what about putting zebra into the picture > ... > >>a solution or chaos? > > > > What feature in Zebra exactly do you think will help in this scenario? > > > > Ted > > _______________________________________________ I am just crawling in the dark here... If the upstream packets can be send through a supposedly "working" load-balancing FreeBSD router, it will only handle upstream packets.., i.e. the router may be able to balance the upstream packets... Now, who's going to handle the routing and balancing the downstream packet? Would Zebra has such feature I am sorry if it makes not much sense. I am just trying to figure out what I can do to optimise two ADSL uplinks. If there are other things I can do to optimise it, please give me some pointers. Regards, Yance __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 13 02:50:23 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AB35816A41F for ; Tue, 13 Dec 2005 02:50:23 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from on@cs.ait.ac.th) Received: from mail.cs.ait.ac.th (mail.cs.ait.ac.th [192.41.170.16]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9F14643D45 for ; Tue, 13 Dec 2005 02:50:19 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from on@cs.ait.ac.th) Received: from banyan.cs.ait.ac.th (banyan.cs.ait.ac.th [192.41.170.5]) by mail.cs.ait.ac.th (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id jBD2oHrX023256 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Tue, 13 Dec 2005 09:50:17 +0700 (ICT) Received: (from on@localhost) by banyan.cs.ait.ac.th (8.13.1/8.12.11) id jBD2oFG1062961; Tue, 13 Dec 2005 09:50:15 +0700 (ICT) Date: Tue, 13 Dec 2005 09:50:15 +0700 (ICT) Message-Id: <200512130250.jBD2oFG1062961@banyan.cs.ait.ac.th> From: Olivier Nicole To: perikillo@gmail.com, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Virus-Scanned: on CSIM by amavisd-milter (http://www.amavis.org/) Cc: Subject: Re: Bacula vs. Amanda vs. whatever ... X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 13 Dec 2005 02:50:23 -0000 > This information is very important, but you only say windows, but i > like to know wich one...? All...? > Because i want to try bacula+mysql-5 to backup 1 win2k3, 2 WinNT4 > and 1 Linux box. > I try once bacula on freebsd 5.4-p8 with bacula using some simple > tape drive and backup the win2k3 box and it works, but my doubt is > winNT4+Linux, you have some winNT4+Linux on your list with bacula or > amanda...? Amanda I use is with FreeBSD since 3 someting and win9x, nt, 2k, xp, whatever win that Samba knows to talk to. I have no Linux so I cannot say, but I see no reason it would not work. Olivier From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 13 03:13:27 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8782A16A41F for ; Tue, 13 Dec 2005 03:13:27 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from psiinformatique@videotron.ca) Received: from relais.videotron.ca (relais.videotron.ca [24.201.245.36]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 33A3243D64 for ; Tue, 13 Dec 2005 03:13:27 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from psiinformatique@videotron.ca) Received: from studypc ([24.200.225.51]) by VL-MO-MR003.ip.videotron.ca (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-2.05 (built Apr 28 2005)) with ESMTP id <0IRF00E252AEEC20@VL-MO-MR003.ip.videotron.ca> for freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org; Mon, 12 Dec 2005 22:13:26 -0500 (EST) Date: Mon, 12 Dec 2005 21:13:41 -0500 From: psiinformatique To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Message-id: <1134440021.1485.13.camel@sutdypc> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.2.1.1 FreeBSD GNOME Team Port Content-type: text/plain; CHARSET=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Cc: Subject: I'm looking for school of freebsd in montreal X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 13 Dec 2005 03:13:27 -0000 #I'm looking for school of freebsd in montreal and i dont find any. Im #not realy good in BSD, i start to use last year. I use as my main os #on my laptop to become a normal user, but more i get into it, more i #feel stupid about this new world.... #I'm realy impress by the work of your team. Im am interest to go school #to learn Completely (more as possible). Im am interest to do Server and #network security, then Programmation. #MY QUESTION Someone know if there is an school, in Montreal (canada), #that give cours about FreeBSD? #If not, i put all my money to bank and in couple of year I realy hope #to go Berkeley University (California) to learn more about it. #I hope at the same time to give the hand to Arnold Waterstachi #Tanx for your help #Eric Royal From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 13 05:08:24 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DDD3916A41F for ; Tue, 13 Dec 2005 05:08:24 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from wash@wananchi.com) Received: from ns2.wananchi.com (mail.wananchi.com [62.8.64.4]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 71D7043D49 for ; Tue, 13 Dec 2005 05:08:23 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from wash@wananchi.com) Received: from wash by ns2.wananchi.com with local (Exim 4.60 #0 (FreeBSD 4.11-STABLE)) id 1Em2Oh-000AB0-He by authid for ; Tue, 13 Dec 2005 08:08:19 +0300 Date: Tue, 13 Dec 2005 08:08:19 +0300 From: Odhiambo Washington To: FBSD-Q Message-ID: <20051213050819.GF20962@ns2.wananchi.com> Mail-Followup-To: Odhiambo Washington , FBSD-Q Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline X-Disclaimer: Any views expressed in this message, where not explicitly attributed otherwise, are mine alone!. X-Mailer: Mutt 1.5.11 (2005-09-15) X-Designation: Systems Administrator, Wananchi Online Ltd. X-Location: Nairobi, KE, East Africa. User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.11 Subject: Any idea why I get these in /var/log/messages? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 13 Dec 2005 05:08:25 -0000 I have two questions about 6.0-STABLE, which I updated to from 5.4-STABLE. I get the following messages: Dec 11 23:44:45 beastie kernel: KLD mac_lomac.ko: depends on kernel_mac_support - not available ... what could be causing it? When I compile a kernel with options MAC then my network access is disabled ;) I have read the man page of ifconfig but did not see how to go around this. Take it that I am simply dumb on this one. Secondly, I also see these on the console: link_elf_lookup_symbol: missing symbol hash table link_elf_lookup_symbol: missing symbol hash table .... but I am also clueless on the cause. Thanks for any pointers. -Wash http://www.netmeister.org/news/learn2quote.html -- +======================================================================+ |\ _,,,---,,_ | Odhiambo Washington Zzz /,`.-'`' -. ;-;;,_ | Wananchi Online Ltd. www.wananchi.com |,4- ) )-,_. ,\ ( `'-'| Tel: +254 20 313985-9 +254 20 313922 '---''(_/--' `-'\_) | GSM: +254 722 743223 +254 733 744121 +======================================================================+ The human mind treats a new idea the way the body treats a strange protein -- it rejects it. -- P. Medawar From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 13 05:23:26 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2DED616A41F for ; Tue, 13 Dec 2005 05:23:26 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from james_mapson@umpquanet.com) Received: from ns.museum.rain.com (gw-ipinc.museum.rain.com [65.75.192.74]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 00D5A43D5D for ; Tue, 13 Dec 2005 05:23:23 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from james_mapson@umpquanet.com) Received: from ns.museum.rain.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ns.museum.rain.com (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id jBD5NBBg019409 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-DSS-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Mon, 12 Dec 2005 21:23:13 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from james@umpquanet.com) Received: (from james@localhost) by ns.museum.rain.com (8.13.4/8.13.4/Submit) id jBD5N9af019408; Mon, 12 Dec 2005 21:23:09 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from james) Date: Mon, 12 Dec 2005 21:23:09 -0800 From: James Long To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20051213052309.GB19296@ns.museum.rain.com> References: <20051212161422.9886416A41F@hub.freebsd.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20051212161422.9886416A41F@hub.freebsd.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.11 X-Spam-Status: No, score=-101.4 required=5.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED, USER_IN_WHITELIST autolearn=failed version=3.1.0 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.0 (2005-09-13) on ns.museum.rain.com Cc: Yance Kowara Subject: Re: FreeBSD router two DSL connections X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 13 Dec 2005 05:23:26 -0000 This is for an internet cafe, right? Not a mission-critical system? Yes, I realize your mission is providing internet, but.... Buy two DSL feeds, and two WAPs. Put one WAP on each feed. Set them to different SSIDs and different RF channels. Then the wi-fi clients will associate with one or the other, hopefully on a 50/50 basis, or perhaps geographically distributed in proportion to how far (or how line-of-sight) they are from either WAP. If one WAP fails, odds are good that clients will still be in radio range of the other. So there you go, redundant fail-over in case one feed goes down. For a $1.75 cup of Americano, that's about the most your customers will have reason to expect. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 13 05:30:39 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 35E9D16A41F for ; Tue, 13 Dec 2005 05:30:39 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from wash@wananchi.com) Received: from ns2.wananchi.com (mail.wananchi.com [62.8.64.4]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D4C1643D60 for ; Tue, 13 Dec 2005 05:30:37 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from wash@wananchi.com) Received: from wash by ns2.wananchi.com with local (Exim 4.60 #0 (FreeBSD 4.11-STABLE)) id 1Em2kF-000E3c-6w by authid ; Tue, 13 Dec 2005 08:30:35 +0300 Date: Tue, 13 Dec 2005 08:30:35 +0300 From: Odhiambo Washington To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20051213053035.GI20962@ns2.wananchi.com> Mail-Followup-To: Odhiambo Washington , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, Jayesh Jayan References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: X-Disclaimer: Any views expressed in this message, where not explicitly attributed otherwise, are mine alone!. X-Mailer: Mutt 1.5.11 (2005-09-15) X-Designation: Systems Administrator, Wananchi Online Ltd. X-Location: Nairobi, KE, East Africa. User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.11 Cc: Jayesh Jayan Subject: Re: May be a question repeated X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 13 Dec 2005 05:30:39 -0000 * On 13/12/05 04:15 +0530, Jayesh Jayan wrote: > Hi, > > I have a server which runs Apache/1.3.33 (Unix) and exim 4.53-0 on a FreeBSD > 5.4. > > I wanted to upgrade exim to 4.60 > > so i did the below steps > > 1 ) cd /usr/ports/mail/exim > 2 ) make clean > 3 ) make > > at this step the make stops saying openssl already installed. I have on the > server OpenSSL 0.9.7e and exim is trying to upgrade even open ssl to the > latest. This may break http and other services running on the server. > > Error message is as below > > ****************************************************************************************************************** > ===> Installing for openssl-0.9.8a > ===> Generating temporary packing list > ===> Checking if security/openssl already installed > pkg_info: package bsdpan-CPAN-1.80 has no origin recorded > pkg_info: package bsdpan-Filesys-Statvfs_Statfs_Df-0.78 has no origin > recorded > pkg_info: package bsdpan-GDGraph-1.43 has no origin recorded > pkg_info: package bsdpan-GDTextUtil-0.86 has no origin recorded > pkg_info: package bsdpan-IO-Interactive-undef has no origin recorded > pkg_info: package bsdpan-MailTools-1.67 has no origin recorded > pkg_info: package bsdpan-Net_SSLeay.pm-1.25 has no origin recorded > pkg_info: package bsdpan-ShadowHash-0.07 has no origin recorded > pkg_info: package bsdpan-Term-ReadLine-Perl-1.0203 has no origin recorded > pkg_info: package bsdpan-TermReadKey-2.30 has no origin recorded > pkg_info: package bsdpan-Tie-Watch-1.2 has no origin recorded > pkg_info: package bsdpan-Tree-MultiNode-1.0.10 has no origin recorded > pkg_info: package bsdpan-libwww-perl-5.803 has no origin recorded > pkg_info: package bsdpan-libwww-perl-5.804 has no origin recorded > pkg_info: package bsdpan-libwww-perl-5.805 has no origin recorded > ===> An older version of security/openssl is already installed ( > openssl-0.9.7e_2) > You may wish to ``make deinstall'' and install this port again > by ``make reinstall'' to upgrade it properly. > If you really wish to overwrite the old port of security/openssl > without deleting it first, set the variable "FORCE_PKG_REGISTER" > in your environment or the "make install" command line. > *** Error code 1 > > Stop in /usr/ports/security/openssl. > *** Error code 1 > > Stop in /usr/ports/mail/exim. > > ****************************************************************************************************************** > > Please guide me on how I can upgrade exim without effecting other services > running on the server. You did install openssl from the ports, yes? You probably shouldn't have done that, as openssl is supposed to be in the base system for FreeBSD. I am not going to help you fix that though. You have to decide on what steps to take - either deinstall the /usr/ports/security/openssl and rely on the one from the base system or use it as is. For the purposes of your current problem, Exim is assuming you are using TLS, which is what is pulling in the openssl dependency. If you don't really need TLS support on Exim, then do: cd /usr/ports/mail/exim make -DWITHOUT_TLS ..and proceed from there... I'd advise you to rely on utils like /usr/ports/sysutils/portupgrade or /usr/ports/sysutils/portmanager to manage your ports. Lastly, you will be happy to deinstall your openssl from the ports and rebuild all your apps that were relying on it to instead link against the one in the base system. -Wash http://www.netmeister.org/news/learn2quote.html -- +======================================================================+ |\ _,,,---,,_ | Odhiambo Washington Zzz /,`.-'`' -. ;-;;,_ | Wananchi Online Ltd. www.wananchi.com |,4- ) )-,_. ,\ ( `'-'| Tel: +254 20 313985-9 +254 20 313922 '---''(_/--' `-'\_) | GSM: +254 722 743223 +254 733 744121 +======================================================================+ Those who express random thoughts to legislative committees are often surprised and appalled to find themselves the instigators of law. -- Mark B. Cohen From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 13 05:40:44 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C516116A41F for ; Tue, 13 Dec 2005 05:40:43 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from bsdlists@sbcglobal.net) Received: from smtp102.sbc.mail.mud.yahoo.com (smtp102.sbc.mail.mud.yahoo.com [68.142.198.201]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id D351243D5F for ; Tue, 13 Dec 2005 05:40:40 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from bsdlists@sbcglobal.net) Received: (qmail 14764 invoked from network); 13 Dec 2005 05:40:38 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?127.0.0.1?) (calartstech@sbcglobal.net@68.127.38.82 with plain) by smtp102.sbc.mail.mud.yahoo.com with SMTP; 13 Dec 2005 05:40:38 -0000 Message-ID: <439E5ED8.40401@sbcglobal.net> Date: Mon, 12 Dec 2005 21:40:40 -0800 From: Jose Borquez User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.7 (Windows/20050923) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: FreeBSD Questions group Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: pkg_add blocked by IPFirewall X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 13 Dec 2005 05:40:44 -0000 I am attempting to install cvsup using pkg_add -r but I keep getting the following error: Error: FTP Unable to get ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/ports/i386/packages-5.4-release/Latest/cvsup-without-gui.tbz: No route to host pkg_add: unable to fetch 'ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/ports/i386/packages-5.4-release/Latest/cvsup-without-gui.tbz' by URL I know that it is being blocked by my firewall. What are the tcp and udp ports that I need to open up for pkg_add to get the package? Thank you in advance. Jose From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 13 06:19:14 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1BBE616A41F for ; Tue, 13 Dec 2005 06:19:14 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) Received: from mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com (mail.web-strider.com [65.75.192.90]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 845B243D58 for ; Tue, 13 Dec 2005 06:19:13 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) Received: from tedwin2k (nat-rtr.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [65.75.197.130]) by mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com (8.11.1/8.11.1) with SMTP id jBD6MLb98509; Mon, 12 Dec 2005 22:22:21 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) From: "Ted Mittelstaedt" To: "Winelfred G. Pasamba" , "Yance Kowara" Date: Mon, 12 Dec 2005 22:19:08 -0800 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.6604 (9.0.2911.0) In-Reply-To: Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1506 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: RE: FreeBSD router two DSL connections X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 13 Dec 2005 06:19:14 -0000 >-----Original Message----- >From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org >[mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]On Behalf Of Winelfred G. >Pasamba >Sent: Monday, December 12, 2005 8:26 AM >To: Yance Kowara >Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org >Subject: Re: FreeBSD router two DSL connections > > >i use pfSense (www.pfsense.com) > > >pfSense is a open source firewall derived from the m0n0wall >operating system >platform with radically different goals such as using Packet >Filter, FreeBSD >6.X (or DragonFly BSD when ALTQ and CARP is finished) ALTQ for excellent >packet queueing and finally an integrated package management system for >extending the environment with new features. >then i edit /etc/pf.conf and paste the openbsd pf tutorial for load >balancing outgoing traffic ( >http://www.openbsd.org/faq/pf/pools.html#outexample) > >then i pfctl -f /etc/pf.conf and watch the traffic on both WAN >interfaces > Sigh. THIS IS NOT LOAD BALANCING PLEASE QUIT BEING SLOPPY WITH YOUR NETWORKING TERMS!!!! I refer you to the pfsense website itself: http://faq.pfsense.org/index.php?sid=13525&lang=en&action=artikel&cat=6&i d=18&artlang=en "Load balancing is on per connection basis, not a bandwidth basis. All packets in a given flow will go over only one link." In other words, they are redefining the term "load balancing" into something that is not understood by any previously accepted definition of load balancing, so that people like you can think your getting something for nothing. Once more - FTP to a remote site with your dual DSL links. Copy a FreeBSD ISO file to there. Watch as the upload speed IS NO FASTER THAN ONE OF THE LINKS. Load balancing is accomplished with multilink PPP and that is in FreeBSD, I have run it before over dual modem links and it works great. But the links must terminate at the same ISP. Ted From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 13 06:24:01 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C8F7616A41F for ; Tue, 13 Dec 2005 06:24:01 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) Received: from mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com (mail.web-strider.com [65.75.192.90]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BDA4743D7C for ; Tue, 13 Dec 2005 06:23:58 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) Received: from tedwin2k (nat-rtr.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [65.75.197.130]) by mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com (8.11.1/8.11.1) with SMTP id jBD6Qvb98540; Mon, 12 Dec 2005 22:26:58 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) From: "Ted Mittelstaedt" To: "Nathan Vidican" Date: Mon, 12 Dec 2005 22:23:45 -0800 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.6604 (9.0.2911.0) In-Reply-To: <439DCA9C.4090101@wmptl.com> Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1506 Cc: yance_kowara@yahoo.com, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: RE: FreeBSD router two DSL connections X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 13 Dec 2005 06:24:01 -0000 >-----Original Message----- >From: Nathan Vidican [mailto:nvidican@wmptl.com] >Sent: Monday, December 12, 2005 11:08 AM >To: Ted Mittelstaedt >Cc: yance_kowara@yahoo.com; freebsd-questions@freebsd.org >Subject: Re: FreeBSD router two DSL connections > > >You could, if the purpose is to combine bandwidth accross >multiple DSL links, >use multi-link PPP, afaik - the only way to do so is through mpd >(/usr/ports/net/mpd) ... not catch the whole thread, so feel >free to correct me >if wrong, mpd should work for you. > It works great when both links go to the same ISP, which in this case they are not. Undoubtedly the OP wants to avoid spending money for better circuits, and undoubtedly any ISP willing to run multiple DSL links to the customer would charge more money. (The ISP I work at would be one such willing ISP, and we definitely would charge more) Ted From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 13 06:24:10 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9778F16A420 for ; Tue, 13 Dec 2005 06:24:10 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from glenn@antimatter.net) Received: from cobalt.antimatter.net (cobalt.antimatter.net [69.55.224.239]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D06F843D70 for ; Tue, 13 Dec 2005 06:23:59 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from glenn@antimatter.net) Received: from glenn-mobile.antimatter.net (cpe-66-91-226-109.san.res.rr.com [66.91.226.109]) (authenticated bits=0) by cobalt.antimatter.net (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id jBD6NwWl019126 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Mon, 12 Dec 2005 22:23:58 -0800 X-MailKey: purple frogs are falling from the sky Message-Id: <6.2.3.4.2.20051212221306.033d22f0@cobalt.antimatter.net> X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 6.2.3.4 Date: Mon, 12 Dec 2005 22:18:58 -0800 To: Jose Borquez , FreeBSD Questions group From: Glenn Dawson In-Reply-To: <439E5ED8.40401@sbcglobal.net> References: <439E5ED8.40401@sbcglobal.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Cc: Subject: Re: pkg_add blocked by IPFirewall X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 13 Dec 2005 06:24:10 -0000 At 09:40 PM 12/12/2005, Jose Borquez wrote: >I am attempting to install cvsup using pkg_add -r but I keep getting >the following error: > >Error: FTP Unable to get >ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/ports/i386/packages-5.4-release/Latest/cvsup-without-gui.tbz: >No route to host >pkg_add: unable to fetch >'ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/ports/i386/packages-5.4-release/Latest/cvsup-without-gui.tbz' >by URL > >I know that it is being blocked by my firewall. What are the tcp >and udp ports that I need to open up for pkg_add to get the package? The control connection for ftp is tcp on port 21. As long as you have FTP_PASSIVE_MODE=YES in your environment, that's all you should need. However, the message "no route to host" suggests you have a routing problem. -Glenn >Thank you in advance. >Jose > >_______________________________________________ >freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list >http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions >To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 13 06:42:10 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 03F7916A41F for ; Tue, 13 Dec 2005 06:42:10 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) Received: from smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (imap.infracaninophile.co.uk [81.187.76.162]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E1A3843D46 for ; Tue, 13 Dec 2005 06:42:07 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) Received: from [IPv6:::1] (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id jBD6ftb4009709; Tue, 13 Dec 2005 06:41:55 GMT (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) Message-ID: <439E6D33.5040102@infracaninophile.co.uk> Date: Tue, 13 Dec 2005 06:41:55 +0000 From: Matthew Seaman Organization: Infracaninophile User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.7 (X11/20051204) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Jose Borquez References: <439E5ED8.40401@sbcglobal.net> In-Reply-To: <439E5ED8.40401@sbcglobal.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-2.0.2 (smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk [IPv6:::1]); Tue, 13 Dec 2005 06:41:56 +0000 (GMT) X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV 0.87.1/1209/Mon Dec 12 15:48:01 2005 on happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.5 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_00,NO_RELAYS autolearn=ham version=3.1.0 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.0 (2005-09-13) on happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk Cc: FreeBSD Questions group Subject: Re: pkg_add blocked by IPFirewall X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 13 Dec 2005 06:42:10 -0000 Jose Borquez wrote: > I am attempting to install cvsup using pkg_add -r but I keep getting > the following error: > > Error: FTP Unable to get > ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/ports/i386/packages-5.4-release/Latest/cvsup-without-gui.tbz: > No route to host pkg_add: unable to fetch > 'ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/ports/i386/packages-5.4-release/Latest/cvsup-without-gui.tbz' > by URL > > I know that it is being blocked by my firewall. What are the tcp and > udp ports that I need to open up for pkg_add to get the package? You will need to: a) set FTP_PASSIVE_MODE=yes in your environment. It should be set by default. b) Configure your firewall to allow stateful outgoing tcp connections to any IP port 21 and also to any port in the 'high ports' range. On FreeBSD by default that's 49152-65535. Other OSes differ. The 'high ports' range is configurable by modifying the net.inet.ip.portrange.hifirst and net.inet.ip.portrange.hilast sysctls. That should let you use PASV or EPSV-style passive mode FTP through your firewall. It's not possible to effectively firewall active mode FTP clients (let alone FTP servers) satisfactorily without using an FTP proxy on your firewall, such as ftp-proxy(8). For a personal machine just allowing passive mode FTP will be sufficient. Cheers, Matthew -- Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. 7 Priory Courtyard Flat 3 PGP: http://www.infracaninophile.co.uk/pgpkey Ramsgate Kent, CT11 9PW From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 13 07:35:39 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 448E716A41F for ; Tue, 13 Dec 2005 07:35:39 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from bsdlists@sbcglobal.net) Received: from smtp110.sbc.mail.mud.yahoo.com (smtp110.sbc.mail.mud.yahoo.com [68.142.198.209]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 9D64743D5E for ; Tue, 13 Dec 2005 07:35:38 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from bsdlists@sbcglobal.net) Received: (qmail 78163 invoked from network); 13 Dec 2005 07:35:37 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?127.0.0.1?) (calartstech@sbcglobal.net@68.127.38.82 with plain) by smtp110.sbc.mail.mud.yahoo.com with SMTP; 13 Dec 2005 07:35:37 -0000 Message-ID: <439E79CA.3050208@sbcglobal.net> Date: Mon, 12 Dec 2005 23:35:38 -0800 From: Jose Borquez User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.7 (Windows/20050923) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Matthew Seaman References: <439E5ED8.40401@sbcglobal.net> <439E6D33.5040102@infracaninophile.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <439E6D33.5040102@infracaninophile.co.uk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: FreeBSD Questions group Subject: Re: pkg_add blocked by IPFirewall X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 13 Dec 2005 07:35:39 -0000 Matthew Seaman wrote: > Jose Borquez wrote: > >> I am attempting to install cvsup using pkg_add -r but I keep getting >> the following error: >> >> Error: FTP Unable to get >> ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/ports/i386/packages-5.4-release/Latest/cvsup-without-gui.tbz: >> >> No route to host pkg_add: unable to fetch >> 'ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/ports/i386/packages-5.4-release/Latest/cvsup-without-gui.tbz' >> >> by URL >> >> I know that it is being blocked by my firewall. What are the tcp and >> udp ports that I need to open up for pkg_add to get the package? > > > You will need to: > > a) set FTP_PASSIVE_MODE=yes in your environment. It should be set by > default. > > b) Configure your firewall to allow stateful outgoing tcp connections > to any IP port 21 and also to any port in the 'high ports' range. > On FreeBSD by default that's 49152-65535. Other OSes differ. The > 'high ports' range is configurable by modifying the > net.inet.ip.portrange.hifirst and net.inet.ip.portrange.hilast > sysctls. > > That should let you use PASV or EPSV-style passive mode FTP through > your firewall. It's not possible to effectively firewall active mode > FTP clients (let alone FTP servers) satisfactorily without using an FTP > proxy on your firewall, such as ftp-proxy(8). For a personal machine just > allowing passive mode FTP will be sufficient. > > Cheers, > > Matthew > That was very helpful. It worked! Thank you. Jose From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 13 07:45:26 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9C4E516A41F for ; Tue, 13 Dec 2005 07:45:26 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from imran@darkstar.thelakecity.com.pk) Received: from darkstar.thelakecity.com.pk (darkstar.thelakecity.com.pk [202.59.74.139]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 646A143D53 for ; Tue, 13 Dec 2005 07:45:25 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from imran@darkstar.thelakecity.com.pk) Received: from darkstar.thelakecity.com.pk (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by darkstar.thelakecity.com.pk (8.13.3/8.13.3) with ESMTP id jBD7iUCY073921 for ; Tue, 13 Dec 2005 12:44:30 +0500 (PKT) (envelope-from imran@darkstar.thelakecity.com.pk) Received: (from root@localhost) by darkstar.thelakecity.com.pk (8.13.3/8.13.3/Submit) id jBD7iUUj073920 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Tue, 13 Dec 2005 12:44:30 +0500 (PKT) (envelope-from imran) Date: Tue, 13 Dec 2005 12:44:30 +0500 (PKT) From: Imran Imtiaz Message-Id: <200512130744.jBD7iUUj073920@darkstar.thelakecity.com.pk> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: ftp problem X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 13 Dec 2005 07:45:26 -0000 I am running a ftp server on my computer it works fine if i do not enable the firewall but as I enable the firewall on my system ftp doesn't works although I have open port 21 in firewall. my ftp client do gets connected but when i try to dir or any other commands its say no route. below is the output of my ftp client C:\Documents and Settings\Asif>ftp darkstar.thelakecity.com.pk Connected to darkstar.thelakecity.com.pk. 220 ProFTPD 1.2.10 Server (ProFTPD Default Installation) [202.59.74.139] User (darkstar.thelakecity.com.pk:(none)): anonymous 331 Anonymous login ok, send your complete email address as your password. Password: 230 Anonymous access granted, restrictions apply. ftp> dir 200 PORT command successful 425 Unable to build data connection: No route to host ftp> quti Invalid command. ftp> quit 221 Goodbye. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 13 08:00:47 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A318B16A41F for ; Tue, 13 Dec 2005 08:00:47 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from igorr@speechpro.com) Received: from speechpro.com (speech-tech-2.ip.PeterStar.net [81.3.190.130]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D165943D64 for ; Tue, 13 Dec 2005 08:00:46 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from igorr@speechpro.com) Received: from sysadm.stc ([192.168.2.26]) by s1.stc with esmtp (Exim 4.53 (FreeBSD)) id 1Em55Z-0003Ou-2i for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Tue, 13 Dec 2005 11:00:45 +0300 Received: from localhost.stc ([127.0.0.1] helo=sysadm.stc) by sysadm.stc with esmtp (Exim 4.54 (FreeBSD)) id 1Em555-000Ctn-K6 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Tue, 13 Dec 2005 11:00:15 +0300 Received: (from igorr@localhost) by sysadm.stc (8.13.4/8.13.3/Submit) id jBD80FYY049586 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Tue, 13 Dec 2005 11:00:15 +0300 (MSK) (envelope-from igorr) Date: Tue, 13 Dec 2005 11:00:15 +0300 From: Igor Robul To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20051213080015.GD46065@sysadm.stc> References: <200512121710.jBCHA1Zj068104@whoweb.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <200512121710.jBCHA1Zj068104@whoweb.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.11 X-Archived: Yes Subject: Re: mount_smbfs file name problem X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 13 Dec 2005 08:00:47 -0000 On Mon, Dec 12, 2005 at 12:10:01PM -0500, Incoming Mail List wrote: > > I've got a problem with file names containing ":" and "?" characters when > mounted via mount_smbfs. I have two FBSD machines running SAMBA. Machine-1 > mounts a file system from Machine-2 using mount_smbfs(). The ls() command > converts a file name such as XX:YY to something like X~Y. If I run tar() > to backup XX:YY, it reports an error (tar: X~Y: no such file or directory). AFAIK ':' in filenames _will_ cause problems on Windows. So I dont see any reason share files with ':' via Samba From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 13 08:36:09 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F41BE16A41F for ; Tue, 13 Dec 2005 08:36:08 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from sasa@stupar.homelinux.net) Received: from avs1.arnes.si (avs1.arnes.si [193.2.1.74]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 147A343D5D for ; Tue, 13 Dec 2005 08:36:08 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from sasa@stupar.homelinux.net) Received: from localhost (avs1.arnes.si [193.2.1.74]) by avs1.arnes.si (Postfix) with ESMTP id C0CF036A07D for ; Tue, 13 Dec 2005 09:36:06 +0100 (CET) Received: from avs1.arnes.si ([193.2.1.74]) by localhost (avs1.arnes.si [193.2.1.74]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 64321-09 for ; Tue, 13 Dec 2005 09:36:06 +0100 (CET) Received: from xmail.homelinux.net (cmb16-74.dial-up.arnes.si [194.249.51.74]) by avs1.arnes.si (Postfix) with ESMTP id 82AAF36A051 for ; Tue, 13 Dec 2005 09:36:05 +0100 (CET) Received: from [192.168.10.249] (master.workgroup [192.168.10.249]) (authenticated bits=0) by xmail.homelinux.net (8.13.5/8.13.3) with ESMTP id jBD8a43T014768 for ; Tue, 13 Dec 2005 09:36:05 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from sasa@stupar.homelinux.net) Date: Tue, 13 Dec 2005 09:36:06 +0100 From: Sasa Stupar To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <9CF863F9FF55D6301DA0C9B3@[192.168.10.249]> In-Reply-To: <200512130029.jBD0T11I020665@clunix.cl.msu.edu> References: <200512130029.jBD0T11I020665@clunix.cl.msu.edu> X-Mailer: Mulberry/3.1.6 (Win32) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV version 0.87.1, clamav-milter version 0.87 on mig29.workgroup X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at arnes.si Subject: Re: Slices X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 13 Dec 2005 08:36:09 -0000 --On 12. december 2005 19:29 -0500 Jerry McAllister wrote: >> >> On Mon, 12 Dec 2005 12:40:40 -0600 >> Kevin Kinsey wrote: >> >> > Sasa Stupar wrote: >> > >> > > You can also do the same as I did. I have just configured one slice >> > > named / which >> > > takes all the space on hdd and now I don't need to worry about >> > > space shortage. >> > >> > >> > OK then, but suppose we have some runaway process > > The main two reasons for dividing up your FreeBSD disk in to partitions > rather than making just one big partition are to reduce the threat of > runaway processes and to manage backup and restore sizes. > > Think those things out to meet your needs and resources. > > ////jerry > OK. But then what would be ideal slice size for /, /var, /usr, /boot? -- Sasa Stupar From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 13 08:44:56 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3D20616A41F for ; Tue, 13 Dec 2005 08:44:56 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) Received: from mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com (mail.web-strider.com [65.75.192.90]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7970743D4C for ; Tue, 13 Dec 2005 08:44:55 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) Received: from tedwin2k (nat-rtr.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [65.75.197.130]) by mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com (8.11.1/8.11.1) with SMTP id jBD8lmb99106; Tue, 13 Dec 2005 00:47:48 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) From: "Ted Mittelstaedt" To: "Drew Tomlinson" Date: Tue, 13 Dec 2005 00:44:35 -0800 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.6604 (9.0.2911.0) In-Reply-To: <439DDDDB.2080902@mykitchentable.net> Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1506 Cc: Michael Vince , danial_thom@yahoo.com, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, Kris Kennaway Subject: RE: Polling For 100 mbps Connections? (Was Re: Freebsd Theme Song) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 13 Dec 2005 08:44:56 -0000 >-----Original Message----- >From: Drew Tomlinson [mailto:drew@mykitchentable.net] >Sent: Monday, December 12, 2005 12:30 PM >To: Ted Mittelstaedt >Cc: Michael Vince; danial_thom@yahoo.com; freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; >Kris Kennaway >Subject: Polling For 100 mbps Connections? (Was Re: Freebsd Theme Song) > > >On 12/12/2005 8:13 AM Ted Mittelstaedt wrote: > >>Michael, >> >> Fundamentally, here's the problem Danial is claiming exists: >> >>it takes a certain amount of time to get the packet clocked in >>from the network into the ethernet receiver. This is hardware >>dependent and cannot be changed. >> >>It takes a certain amount of time to get the packet out of >>the hardware in the ethernet card into main ram, this also >>hardware dependent and cannot be changed. (unless the device >>driver is terribly inefficient, which we will assume it's not) >> >>Once in main ram, the information in the packet has to go through >>a number of code statements. The more code statements the >>longer the information in the packet is sitting around in >>the FreeBSD system's memory. >> >>It then takes a certain amount of time to get the information >>out of main memory into the other sending ethernet nic's buffers, >> >>and it takes time to get it out of the sending nic back to the >>wire. >> >>Danial is claiming the slowness is in the main ram section of >>things, not in the ethernet driver code. >> >>polling makes the ethernet driver more efficient at high data >>rates, but it does nothing for the speed of processing within >>the TCPIP stack itself. At low data rates polling is less >>efficient than the interrupt method. And unless the nic driver >>is terribly inefficient to start with, the time it adds to the >>packet path in the system is minor compared to the time spent >>in the TCP/IP stack. >> >>Ted >> >> > >Thanks for the explanation. So would polling be beneficial or >detrimental for a 100 mbps Ethernet card? Yes, if you were running 100Mbt's of bandwidth through it. >Not sure if 100 mbps is >considered "high" or "low" speed. I'm specifically interested in >NetGear cards using the dc driver or DLink cards using the rl driver. > The rl chipset isn't known as a very good chipset. YMMV Some of the Netgear cards use clone 21143 chipsets which are extremely inferior to the real thing. In particular if your Netgear card is using a PNIC chipset it is pretty bad with serious performance penalty. This is documented in Section 4 of the dc manpage. People seem to have good results with polling on the fxp cards. Ted From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 13 08:56:16 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 37C9C16A41F for ; Tue, 13 Dec 2005 08:56:16 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) Received: from mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com (mail.web-strider.com [65.75.192.90]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A252143D5E for ; Tue, 13 Dec 2005 08:56:15 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) Received: from tedwin2k (nat-rtr.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [65.75.197.130]) by mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com (8.11.1/8.11.1) with SMTP id jBD8wVb99160; Tue, 13 Dec 2005 00:58:31 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) From: "Ted Mittelstaedt" To: , "Drew Tomlinson" Date: Tue, 13 Dec 2005 00:55:18 -0800 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.6604 (9.0.2911.0) In-Reply-To: <20051212213437.52457.qmail@web33312.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1506 Cc: Michael Vince , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, Kris Kennaway Subject: RE: Polling For 100 mbps Connections? (Was Re: Freebsd Theme Song) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 13 Dec 2005 08:56:16 -0000 >-----Original Message----- >From: Danial Thom [mailto:danial_thom@yahoo.com] >Sent: Monday, December 12, 2005 1:35 PM >To: Drew Tomlinson; Ted Mittelstaedt >Cc: Michael Vince; danial_thom@yahoo.com; freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; >Kris Kennaway >Subject: Re: Polling For 100 mbps Connections? (Was Re: Freebsd Theme >Song) > > > > >--- Drew Tomlinson >wrote: > >> On 12/12/2005 8:13 AM Ted Mittelstaedt wrote: >> > >Danial is claiming the slowness is in the main > >ram section of > >things, not in the ethernet driver code. >I don't think I'm claiming that at all. Oh, really, do tell then: >The >slowness is in the latency and inefficiencies of >the scheduler and whatever other kernel "stuff" >(locking, general overheads). Which runs in main ram... >The entire point of >the tests are that the managing of the packets is >a constant, in that its the same hardware and >mostly the same code. What I said... >Now I suppose its possible >that the em driver could just be slower in 5.4 >and 6.0, but the code is fundamentally the same, >so it should be a constant. So since the >processing of the packets is a constant, then if >you can process less packets on the same machine >the overhead of the OS must be the culprit. And, where again does the OS do it's processing... >It >could be the code, Well, if it's not, then your explanation and everything you have said up to this point sure strongly implies it. What's wrong Danial, now that you have actually had to think about it, now realizing you have some holes in your bitching? Scared that I'm about ready to start punching holes in your flimsy inferences? Danial, you spewed some accusations about the core team making FreeBSD's network performance slower in the newer versions. As I said before, you haven't posted anything to back this up. I know you think your misunderstood but you fail to realize we all understand what your bitching about very well, and are waiting for you to put your money where your mouth is and start posting some repeatable tests. Until then, your just puffing air. And that goes for the rest of you claiming that the later versions of FreeBSD's network performance are better. You too are puffing air. Start showing some test results or go away. Ted From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 13 08:57:27 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E97F616A41F for ; Tue, 13 Dec 2005 08:57:27 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ml.diespammer@netfence.it) Received: from parrot.aev.net (parrot.aev.net [212.31.247.179]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4191B43D67 for ; Tue, 13 Dec 2005 08:57:22 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ml.diespammer@netfence.it) Received: from soth.ventu (adsl-ull-84-135.51-151.net24.it [151.51.135.84]) (authenticated bits=128) by parrot.aev.net (8.13.5/8.13.5) with ESMTP id jBD9D8XE079061 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=OK) for ; Tue, 13 Dec 2005 10:13:15 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from ml.diespammer@netfence.it) Received: from [10.1.2.18] (alamar.ventu [10.1.2.18]) (authenticated bits=0) by soth.ventu (8.13.5/8.13.3) with ESMTP id jBD8uoMA072234 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=OK); Tue, 13 Dec 2005 09:56:53 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from ml.diespammer@netfence.it) Message-ID: <439E8CDF.1080600@netfence.it> Date: Tue, 13 Dec 2005 09:57:03 +0100 From: Andrea Venturoli User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.7 (X11/20051202) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Kiffin Gish , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <000a01c60cb3$8aac6130$2401a8c0@XGISH> In-Reply-To: <000a01c60cb3$8aac6130$2401a8c0@XGISH> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.53 on 212.31.247.179 X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.53 on 10.1.2.13 Cc: Subject: Re: Bacula vs. Amanda vs. whatever ... X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 13 Dec 2005 08:57:28 -0000 Kiffin Gish wrote: > I have a home network with two FreeBSD servers (web- and file-server), a number of Windows desktops and a wireless FreeBSD laptop all connected to one another using Samba. > > What is the best tool to create automatic central backups? For now I just want to make backups on disk but later using an external tape drive. > > Some swear by Amanda, others insist Bacula works best with Samba, just curious is all. Well, I'm using bacula with the following config: a) 1 Windows client (only some data to backup); b) 1 FreeBSD client/storage (I just backup /etc, /usr/local/etc, ... and it holds daily backup on a disk); c) 1 FreeBSD client/storage (main big chunk of data to save and tape drive used monthly for full backups). Initially it was not that easy to setup, but I must admin it's working very well now. I haven't by now even considered the bare metal restore option. bye av. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 13 09:09:52 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BEDFC16A41F for ; Tue, 13 Dec 2005 09:09:52 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from wojtek@tensor.3miasto.net) Received: from chylonia.3miasto.net (chylonia.3miasto.net [213.192.74.6]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6E8C743D5D for ; Tue, 13 Dec 2005 09:09:49 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from wojtek@tensor.3miasto.net) Received: from chylonia.3miasto.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by chylonia.3miasto.net (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id jBD99SgH003665; Tue, 13 Dec 2005 10:09:28 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wojtek@tensor.3miasto.net) Received: from localhost (wojtek@localhost) by chylonia.3miasto.net (8.13.4/8.13.4/Submit) with ESMTP id jBD99RHR003662; Tue, 13 Dec 2005 10:09:27 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wojtek@tensor.3miasto.net) X-Authentication-Warning: chylonia.3miasto.net: wojtek owned process doing -bs Date: Tue, 13 Dec 2005 10:09:27 +0100 (CET) From: Wojciech Puchar X-X-Sender: wojtek@chylonia.3miasto.net To: Andrea Venturoli In-Reply-To: <439E8CDF.1080600@netfence.it> Message-ID: <20051213100842.G3562@chylonia.3miasto.net> References: <000a01c60cb3$8aac6130$2401a8c0@XGISH> <439E8CDF.1080600@netfence.it> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, Kiffin Gish Subject: Re: Bacula vs. Amanda vs. whatever ... X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 13 Dec 2005 09:09:52 -0000 > Kiffin Gish wrote: >> I have a home network with two FreeBSD servers (web- and file-server), a >> number of Windows desktops and a wireless FreeBSD laptop all connected to >> one another using Samba. >> What is the best tool to create automatic central backups? For now I just >> want to make backups on disk but later using an external tape drive. >> >> Some swear by Amanda, others insist Bacula works best with Samba, just dump is OK for all of them. works fine. it's sometimes good to look at simplest tools, as they are usually the best. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 13 09:15:50 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8E61716A41F for ; Tue, 13 Dec 2005 09:15:50 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from kiffin@gish.demon.nl) Received: from post-23.mail.nl.demon.net (post-23.mail.nl.demon.net [194.159.73.193]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2625C43D79 for ; Tue, 13 Dec 2005 09:15:49 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from kiffin@gish.demon.nl) Received: from gish.demon.nl ([83.160.27.223]:19097 helo=ZGISH) by post-23.mail.nl.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1Em6GC-000PYe-Sd for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Tue, 13 Dec 2005 09:15:49 +0000 From: "Kiffin Gish" To: Date: Tue, 13 Dec 2005 10:15:48 +0100 Message-ID: <000201c5ffc5$ce8bdd40$2101a8c0@ZGISH> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.6626 Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 Subject: Lousy network performance ... X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 13 Dec 2005 09:15:50 -0000 I am having problems with a slow Internet DSL-connection, especially = while surfing around the web. My service-provider claims that his network is just fine (of course!) = and that the problem is because of all the 'so-called junk' I have = configured on my home network on my side of the connection. On my side of the adsl-modem/router I have a router which is connected directly to two Windows XP desktops, via a switch to two FreeBSD = machines (webserver and fileserver) and via a wireless link my combo = FreeBSD/Windows XP laptop. I have Samba running for file exchange bweteen the Windows = and FreeBSD boxes and I have port 80 opened on the adsl-moden/router to = allow access to a couple of web sites I am running. Is there some kind of way to prove my ISP is wrong by doing a trace? = What tools are available? How can I demonstrate that the bottleneck is not my home network but the DSL-connection? Thanks a lot in advance. --=20 Kiffin Rex Gish Gouda, The Netherlands From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 13 10:15:51 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7177F16A41F for ; Tue, 13 Dec 2005 10:15:51 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from pietro.cerutti@gmail.com) Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.204]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E918F43D55 for ; Tue, 13 Dec 2005 10:15:50 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from pietro.cerutti@gmail.com) Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id i1so84920wra for ; Tue, 13 Dec 2005 02:15:50 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=k9RqNfo/+v/lYp5RVBzczdq5Nb9OZiVeR0BjG2ISFXT/TsXhSjrCrHWeS3b/pJEay2RrmuYKXYHbSHDPwLUMeUxjQdCuvUetMrVGKyXEGSxaSAp1NoAnSR2/97stHtYHPTTqP0J8slKEUW92jsD9AeQYZF2Vaw1LD/ipTOr9Naw= Received: by 10.64.203.5 with SMTP id a5mr485538qbg; Tue, 13 Dec 2005 02:15:50 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.64.150.18 with HTTP; Tue, 13 Dec 2005 02:15:50 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: Date: Tue, 13 Dec 2005 11:15:50 +0100 From: Pietro Cerutti To: Odhiambo Washington , FBSD-Q In-Reply-To: <20051213050819.GF20962@ns2.wananchi.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline References: <20051213050819.GF20962@ns2.wananchi.com> Cc: Subject: Re: Any idea why I get these in /var/log/messages? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 13 Dec 2005 10:15:51 -0000 On 12/13/05, Odhiambo Washington wrote: > Dec 11 23:44:45 beastie kernel: KLD mac_lomac.ko: depends on kernel_mac_s= upport - not available > > ... what could be causing it? It seems related to Mandatory Access Control (Chap. 15 of the handbook). The man pages of the mac_Iomac module explain quite well when/how it is use= d: http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/man.cgi?query=3Dmac_lomac&sektion=3D4 > > > Thanks for any pointers. > > -Wash > Regards, -- Pietro Cerutti Beansidhe - SwiSS Death / Thrash Metal Windows: "Where do you want to go today?" Linux: "Where do you want to go tomorrow?" FreeBSD: "Are you guys coming or what?" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 13 10:24:24 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3055916A41F for ; Tue, 13 Dec 2005 10:24:24 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from pietro.cerutti@gmail.com) Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.204]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2D1B143D62 for ; Tue, 13 Dec 2005 10:24:20 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from pietro.cerutti@gmail.com) Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id i1so86238wra for ; Tue, 13 Dec 2005 02:24:20 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=myECtPwkjlYHKuOh4SYTrjMsVllrzGnTQWfAdxSE3lAvnJVWhm/lERCGC89h//P4UuO67xi4Zgaf1kuJe9UNdkyfWFZBR9Y2gYufUj865cB2aNveDPTwJEERM8gib89E/qOimFeGiEeljQPNQoR2kIEJwsXMXkp0X1fNCnVy3nk= Received: by 10.65.216.4 with SMTP id t4mr469124qbq; Tue, 13 Dec 2005 02:24:20 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.64.150.18 with HTTP; Tue, 13 Dec 2005 02:24:20 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: Date: Tue, 13 Dec 2005 11:24:20 +0100 From: Pietro Cerutti To: Imran Imtiaz , FreeBSD In-Reply-To: <200512130744.jBD7iUUj073920@darkstar.thelakecity.com.pk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline References: <200512130744.jBD7iUUj073920@darkstar.thelakecity.com.pk> Cc: Subject: Re: ftp problem X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 13 Dec 2005 10:24:24 -0000 On 12/13/05, Imran Imtiaz wrote: > I am running a ftp server on my computer it works fine if i do not enable= the firewall but as I enable the firewall on my system ftp doesn't works a= lthough I have open port 21 in firewall. my ftp client do gets connected bu= t when i try to dir or any other commands its say no route. below is the ou= tput of my ftp client > C:\Documents and Settings\Asif>ftp darkstar.thelakecity.com.pk > Connected to darkstar.thelakecity.com.pk. > 220 ProFTPD 1.2.10 Server (ProFTPD Default Installation) [202.59.74.139] > User (darkstar.thelakecity.com.pk:(none)): anonymous > 331 Anonymous login ok, send your complete email address as your password= . > Password: > 230 Anonymous access granted, restrictions apply. > ftp> dir > 200 PORT command successful > 425 Unable to build data connection: No route to host > ftp> quti > Invalid command. > ftp> quit > 221 Goodbye. FTP works in a two-channel mode. One channel is used for commands, while the other is the data channel, where your files go through... Example of sockstat on the server, during an ftp connection COMMAND PID FD PROTO LOCAL ADDRESS FOREIGN ADDRESS ftpd 55377 6 tcp4 192.168.1.6:21 =20 192.168.1.3:58121 ftpd 55377 9 tcp4 192.168.1.6:53808 =20 192.168.1.3:60020 As you can see, the first line is the command channel (local port 21 used), while the second line is the data channel (local port 53808 (could be any)). Your firewall accepts connections on port 21, but doesn't allow the data channel to be extabilished. Can you post the relevant lines in your firewall rules file? -- Pietro Cerutti Beansidhe - SwiSS Death / Thrash Metal Windows: "Where do you want to go today?" Linux: "Where do you want to go tomorrow?" FreeBSD: "Are you guys coming or what?" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 13 10:37:17 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5C43F16A41F for ; Tue, 13 Dec 2005 10:37:17 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: from aiolos.otenet.gr (aiolos.otenet.gr [195.170.0.93]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7C5E443D45 for ; Tue, 13 Dec 2005 10:37:15 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: from flame.pc (aris.bedc.ondsl.gr [62.103.39.226]) by aiolos.otenet.gr (8.13.4/8.13.4/Debian-8) with SMTP id jBDAbDN0030262; Tue, 13 Dec 2005 12:37:13 +0200 Received: by flame.pc (Postfix, from userid 1001) id B6F7B11478; Tue, 13 Dec 2005 12:36:21 +0200 (EET) Date: Tue, 13 Dec 2005 12:36:21 +0200 From: Giorgos Keramidas To: Sasa Stupar Message-ID: <20051213103621.GA1237@flame.pc> References: <200512130029.jBD0T11I020665@clunix.cl.msu.edu> <9CF863F9FF55D6301DA0C9B3@[192.168.10.249]> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <9CF863F9FF55D6301DA0C9B3@[192.168.10.249]> Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Slices X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 13 Dec 2005 10:37:17 -0000 On 2005-12-13 09:36, Sasa Stupar wrote: >> The main two reasons for dividing up your FreeBSD disk in to >> partitions rather than making just one big partition are to reduce >> the threat of runaway processes and to manage backup and restore >> sizes. >> >> Think those things out to meet your needs and resources. > > OK. But then what would be ideal slice size for /, /var, /usr, /boot? That's not something that can be answered easily with a "template" answer. The best sizes are those that match your own needs and preferences, but only you can describe what these are.' Back when I bought a new, bigger disk, I wrote this post: http://keramida.serverhive.com/weblog/archives/2004-10-26/daemonizing-a-new-disk which includes a description of the partitions I used and why I chose these sizes. The tuning(7) manpage also has a good description of how to pick a good disk partitioning scheme: http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/man.cgi?query=tuning&sektion=7&apropos=0&manpath=FreeBSD+6.0-RELEASE+and+Ports From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 13 10:57:08 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D66F016A41F for ; Tue, 13 Dec 2005 10:57:08 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from elmer.rivera@gmail.com) Received: from xproxy.gmail.com (xproxy.gmail.com [66.249.82.200]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0F80643D60 for ; Tue, 13 Dec 2005 10:57:07 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from elmer.rivera@gmail.com) Received: by xproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id s16so1328749wxc for ; Tue, 13 Dec 2005 02:57:07 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; b=Sd8WvteulqRWClXSpLzZwaMnxA42WJLAD9beHmnoZxfcBYjFkmFV6d28zdrvmnNiQVgouIYnRDoVTKvDgv4RZvA7F4zgF7q3LG528j4XJ++ufOl4wY/7Pl06g3wjrZmzumSpNXXaxQUn71uapbCJ63DlvIHcOIGvj7UUgL8MZoI= Received: by 10.70.42.13 with SMTP id p13mr10007944wxp; Tue, 13 Dec 2005 02:57:07 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.70.37.11 with HTTP; Tue, 13 Dec 2005 02:57:07 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <43c190410512130257l1366b4c3rf56f44f5f451b93@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 13 Dec 2005 18:57:07 +0800 From: Elmer Rivera To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 Content-Disposition: inline Subject: ipfilter question X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 13 Dec 2005 10:57:08 -0000 aGVsbG8sCgpteSBmcmVlYnNkIGJveCBpcyBhbHJlYWR5IHNldHVwIGFuZCBmb2xsb3dlZCBzb21l IG9mIHRoZSBkb2NzIG9uCnNldHRpbmcgdXAgdGhlIGZpcmV3YWxsIHVzaW5nIGlwZmlsdGVyLiBx dWVzdGlvbiBvbiBsb2dnaW5nLgoKc2V0dXAgL3Zhci9sb2cvaXBmaWx0ZXIubG9nIGFzICBteSBs b2cgZmlsZS4KbW9kaWZpZWQgc3lzbG9nLmNvbmYuIGl0cyB3b3JraW5nIG5vdyB1bmZvcnR1bmF0 ZWx5LCBpdHMgbG9nZ2luIG9uCnRoYXQgZmlsZSBBTkQgdG8gbXkgbWVzc2FnZXMgbG9nIGZpbGUu IGlzIGl0IHBvc3NpYmxlIHRvIGxvZyBpcGZpbHRlcgpsb2cgb25seSB0byBteSBsb2cgZmlsZT8K CnRoYW5rcwotLQpFbG1lciBSaXZlcmEsIGh0dHA6Ly93d3cudml6Y2F5YW5vLmNvbSwgaHR0cDov L3lvdWFuZC5pLnBoCg== From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 13 11:01:29 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 587F016A41F for ; Tue, 13 Dec 2005 11:01:29 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from dave@raven.za.net) Received: from elektra.opteqint.net (elektra.opteqint.net [209.25.178.105]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E34C143D53 for ; Tue, 13 Dec 2005 11:01:28 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from dave@raven.za.net) Received: from [165.165.220.244] (helo=LUCY) by elektra.opteqint.net with esmtpsa (TLSv1:RC4-MD5:128) (Exim 4.52 (FreeBSD)) id 1Em7xF-0005WU-LM for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Tue, 13 Dec 2005 03:04:23 -0800 From: "Dave Raven" To: Date: Tue, 13 Dec 2005 13:01:23 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook, Build 11.0.5510 Thread-Index: AcX/1I4+0HGTJmDMQj2Vlt1AXW8kSg== X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2670 X-Spam-Score: -101.4 (---------------------------------------------------) X-Spam-Report: Spam detection software, running on the system "elektra.opteqint.net", has identified this incoming email as possible spam. The original message has been attached to this so you can view it (if it isn't spam) or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see the administrator of that system for details. Content preview: Hi all, I've done some research on bridging vlans and can't get it right with FreeBSD bridge. What I want to do is bridge an undefined number of vlans through a BSD machine. For example. Vlan 10 from em0 out em1. [...] Content analysis details: (-101.4 points, 4.5 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- -100 USER_IN_WHITELIST From: address is in the user's white-list -1.4 ALL_TRUSTED Passed through trusted hosts only via SMTP Message-Id: <20051213110128.E34C143D53@mx1.FreeBSD.org> Subject: Bridging VLAN's X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 13 Dec 2005 11:01:29 -0000 Hi all, I've done some research on bridging vlans and can't get it right with FreeBSD bridge. What I want to do is bridge an undefined number of vlans through a BSD machine. For example. Vlan 10 from em0 out em1. Now I can't create each vlan and bridge those, because you can't have a vlan10 bound to em0 and to em1, if you create different ones and bridge them the packet comes in on the right vlan but leaves tagged for the wrong one. I read a cisco book that suggests you can bridge normally (just em0,em1) if you set the mtu to 1496, which didn't work. I also googled someone saying 1504 - also not working. Does anyone have any advice? Thanks Dave From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 13 11:04:27 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5DC3E16A41F for ; Tue, 13 Dec 2005 11:04:27 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) Received: from mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com (mail.web-strider.com [65.75.192.90]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A995E43D53 for ; Tue, 13 Dec 2005 11:04:26 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) Received: from tedwin2k (nat-rtr.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [65.75.197.130]) by mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com (8.11.1/8.11.1) with SMTP id jBDB7Yb00140; Tue, 13 Dec 2005 03:07:34 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) From: "Ted Mittelstaedt" To: "Yance Kowara" , Date: Tue, 13 Dec 2005 03:04:21 -0800 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.6604 (9.0.2911.0) In-Reply-To: <20051213024638.3696.qmail@web30306.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1506 Cc: Subject: RE: FreeBSD router two DSL connections X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 13 Dec 2005 11:04:27 -0000 >-----Original Message----- >From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org >[mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]On Behalf Of Yance Kowara >Sent: Monday, December 12, 2005 6:47 PM >To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org >Subject: Re: FreeBSD router two DSL connections > > > >> >>Hmmmmmm, what about putting zebra into the picture >> ... >> >>a solution or chaos? >> > >> > What feature in Zebra exactly do you think will >help in this scenario? >> > >> > Ted >> > _______________________________________________ > >I am just crawling in the dark here... > Please, this is like trying to learn how to do open heart surgery via e-mail. It is somewhat insulting that you think that network administrators have such boneheaded jobs that you could actually learn networking fundamentals from posts on a mailing list. Please, do youself a favor and spend the next 3-6 months immersed in a number of networking and routing fundamentals books. >If the upstream packets can be send through a >supposedly "working" load-balancing FreeBSD router, You can't load balance in this way, there is no such thing as a working freebsd router in this kind of configuration. >it >will only handle upstream packets.., i.e. the router >may be able to balance the upstream packets... > No, it cannot - because it is still sourcing them from two different IP addresses. >Now, who's going to handle the routing and balancing >the downstream packet? Would Zebra has such feature > Are both ISP's running Zebra? >I am sorry if it makes not much sense. You need to learn about networking fundamentals, your understanding of how networking operates is simply incorrect, that is why it's not making sense. Actually the funny thing is that I understand what your asking, probably better than you do. And I keep telling you that it's impossible and why, and you are not grokking the answers I'm giving you. I just cannot make it any more basic as to why this will not work. >I am just >trying to figure out what I can do to optimise two >ADSL uplinks. > Internet Cafe's are not known for generating large amounts of upstream traffic. I doubt that upstream traffic is bottlenecked. >If there are other things I can do to optimise it, >please give me some pointers. Read some books on networking before trying to play network administrator, please. Ted From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 13 11:12:01 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0E53A16A41F for ; Tue, 13 Dec 2005 11:12:01 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from winelfredpasamba@gmail.com) Received: from xproxy.gmail.com (xproxy.gmail.com [66.249.82.192]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9144E43D6A for ; Tue, 13 Dec 2005 11:11:59 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from winelfredpasamba@gmail.com) Received: by xproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id s9so1184738wxc for ; Tue, 13 Dec 2005 03:11:58 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=QNFhwy1aE1ap/ch1XWF/RvKJdi7edQ+mUlmeazNHX8pU7Jgp3C4qR2gkTIGhfGb5YwBKSVqWOtAnk1BJe6h5CKcb6abxcBZ+9CLYyzcn9y8eMFy+CQbKPISEG8BFZC9kFbc2/jp8vnwzG6jDdhYrnI8FQWZuBjPJtbI2FNTRRT8= Received: by 10.70.76.15 with SMTP id y15mr587118wxa; Tue, 13 Dec 2005 03:11:54 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.70.113.6 with HTTP; Tue, 13 Dec 2005 03:11:54 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: Date: Tue, 13 Dec 2005 19:11:54 +0800 From: "Winelfred G. Pasamba" To: Ted Mittelstaedt In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: Yance Kowara , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD router two DSL connections X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 13 Dec 2005 11:12:01 -0000 Ted, Thanks for checking on me. I've been only two days with pfSense, and about 5 days with freebsd, and about 1.5 weeks with openbsd. However i would like to point out that i did not use, or did not know how t= o use, or have found the "load balancing" feature in the pfSense web interface. I also don't know if the "load balancing" mentioned in the docs is the same that i used. I was happy with pfSense because of the Packet Filter port to freebsd. I've been using Packet Filter of OpenBSD to load balance traffic to the same ISP with two lines. So far it looks like OpenBSD's Packet Filter's packet round-robin'ing is working nicely with FreeBSD. On 12/13/05, Ted Mittelstaedt wrote: > > > > >-----Original Message----- > >From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > >[mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]On Behalf Of Winelfred G. > >Pasamba > >Sent: Monday, December 12, 2005 8:26 AM > >To: Yance Kowara > >Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > >Subject: Re: FreeBSD router two DSL connections > > > > > >i use pfSense (www.pfsense.com) > > > > > >pfSense is a open source firewall derived from the m0n0wall > >operating system > >platform with radically different goals such as using Packet > >Filter, FreeBSD > >6.X (or DragonFly BSD when ALTQ and CARP is finished) ALTQ for excellent > >packet queueing and finally an integrated package management system for > >extending the environment with new features. > >then i edit /etc/pf.conf and paste the openbsd pf tutorial for load > >balancing outgoing traffic ( > >http://www.openbsd.org/faq/pf/pools.html#outexample) > > > >then i pfctl -f /etc/pf.conf and watch the traffic on both WAN > >interfaces > > > > Sigh. > > THIS IS NOT LOAD BALANCING PLEASE QUIT BEING SLOPPY WITH YOUR > NETWORKING TERMS!!!! > > I refer you to the pfsense website itself: > > http://faq.pfsense.org/index.php?sid=3D13525&lang=3Den&action=3Dartikel&c= at=3D6&i > d=3D18&artlang=3Den > > "Load balancing is on per connection basis, not a bandwidth basis. All > packets in a given flow will go over only one link." > > In other words, they are redefining the term "load balancing" into > something that is not understood by any previously accepted definition > of load balancing, so that people like you can think your getting > something for nothing. > > Once more - FTP to a remote site with your dual DSL links. Copy > a FreeBSD ISO file to there. Watch as the upload speed IS NO FASTER > THAN ONE OF THE LINKS. > > Load balancing is accomplished with multilink PPP and that is in > FreeBSD, I have run it before over dual modem links and it works > great. But the links must terminate at the same ISP. > > Ted > > -- Seek ye first the kingdom of God and all these things shall be added unto you. Winelfred G. Pasamba Adventist University of the Philippines Computer Science Department, AUP Online Information System From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 13 11:13:11 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3E32616A41F for ; Tue, 13 Dec 2005 11:13:11 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from iqgrande@gmail.com) Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.205]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EAD1843D7C for ; Tue, 13 Dec 2005 11:13:00 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from iqgrande@gmail.com) Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 9so1619043nzo for ; Tue, 13 Dec 2005 03:13:00 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:in-reply-to:references:mime-version:content-type:message-id:cc:content-transfer-encoding:from:subject:date:to:x-mailer; b=bTXy+SjIz6Y1HyqPsCYFmNVJpTRn4BLRijiINSilwW2JbMAg6mCjAEqAziTJOm0cx+nVd56Eor5FzGA/RYuTdQQp7HHZ94izsnK477M3Zza+3ZQ1PXd8nYLEC9nLL3c6WwzuFHOLNafDEkLq8OJPR/+g1pjwP8S/VEzhuEDkRz0= Received: by 10.36.221.60 with SMTP id t60mr6348368nzg; Tue, 13 Dec 2005 03:12:59 -0800 (PST) Received: from ?192.168.0.2? ( [24.98.225.185]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id r1sm4868793nzd.2005.12.13.03.12.59; Tue, 13 Dec 2005 03:12:59 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <4464pu7401.fsf@be-well.ilk.org> References: <8a6250b20512110733v55ecd95dn27a6138ab1db59b5@mail.gmail.com> <4464pu7401.fsf@be-well.ilk.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v746.2) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: "Anthony M. Agelastos" Date: Tue, 13 Dec 2005 06:12:56 -0500 To: Lowell Gilbert X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.746.2) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: moused hanging X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 13 Dec 2005 11:13:11 -0000 On Dec 12, 2005, at 10:02 AM, Lowell Gilbert wrote: > Anthony Agelastos writes: > >> Hello everyone, >> >> For an unknown reason, my mouse lately has been hanging. It has >> hung with >> X11 running and without X11 running. To fix it, I get to a prompt >> (usually >> via Ctrl+Alt+F1 as it tends to happen primarily when in X) and, as >> root, I >> execute >> >> % kill mousedPID >> % moused -p /dev/psm0 >> % vidcontrol -m on >> >> and, if there is music playing, it slurs for several seconds when I >> initially move the mouse, and then it is back to working along >> with the >> mouse. If memory serves, this problem started occurring when I >> configured >> the mouse to use the scrollwheel. To do this, I followed the >> instructions >> per the FreeBSD FAQ. >> >> http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/faq/x.html#X-AND- >> WHEEL >> >> What the FAQ mentions is only related to X11. It has failed on me >> once when >> I booted up FBSD prior to any startx-type of command being run. I >> have been >> running the same version of 6.0-STABLE for over a month now and >> this problem >> has started noticeably occurring a couple of weeks ago. Does >> anyone have any >> ideas? Some additional pertinent information is below. Thank you >> to everyone >> who helps and has helped make FreeBSD a great community. > > It sounds like it might be an interrupt issue. > Is the mouse sharing an interrupt with anything? How could I check that? I do apologize for my ignorance with this. > >>> uname -a >> FreeBSD ast.home.iq 6.0-STABLE FreeBSD 6.0-STABLE #0: Sat Nov 5 >> 21:29:34 >> EST 2005 root@ast.home.iq:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/IQKERNEL i386 >>> moused -p /dev/psm0 -i type >> sysmouse >>> cat /etc/rc.conf | grep moused >> moused_enable="YES" >> moused_type='auto' >> moused_port='/dev/psm0' >> >> I wanted to mention here that when I change moused_type from auto >> to ps/2, >> it appears to behave more stable. However, in doing this, the >> scrollwheel >> ceases to work in X11. I wanted to also mention that I checked out >> the FAQ, >> Google, and the Handbook and came up empty with all of them . > > I'm not surprised; I don't think I've heard of this behaviour before. Prior to your email, I decided to update my 6.0-STABLE box to a newer version of 6.0-STABLE and, so far anyways, it seems to have fixed the problem. Thank you for your reply. I would still like to know the question I asked above regarding the interrupts if at all possible. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 13 11:27:16 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A7C3A16A41F for ; Tue, 13 Dec 2005 11:27:16 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from raghu@mri.ernet.in) Received: from mail.mri.ernet.in (mail.mri.ernet.in [202.41.87.4]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3B60443D45 for ; Tue, 13 Dec 2005 11:27:11 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from raghu@mri.ernet.in) Received: from ipc2.mri.ernet.in (internalmail.office.hri [192.168.1.9]) by mail.mri.ernet.in (Postfix) with ESMTP id 988198529D; Tue, 13 Dec 2005 22:12:40 +0500 (MVT) Received: from ipc2 (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ipc2 (Postfix) with SMTP id B65A413C65; Tue, 13 Dec 2005 16:57:04 +0530 (IST) Received: from riemann.mri.ernet.in (riemann.mri.ernet.in [192.168.3.122]) by ipc2.mri.ernet.in (Postfix) with ESMTP id 998F5ECB4; Tue, 13 Dec 2005 16:57:04 +0530 (IST) Received: from riemann.mri.ernet.in (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by riemann.mri.ernet.in (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id jBDBPVSZ069961; Tue, 13 Dec 2005 16:55:31 +0530 (IST) (envelope-from raghu@riemann.mri.ernet.in) Received: (from raghu@localhost) by riemann.mri.ernet.in (8.13.4/8.13.4/Submit) id jBDBPNFN069958; Tue, 13 Dec 2005 16:55:23 +0530 (IST) (envelope-from raghu) Sender: raghu@mri.ernet.in To: "Kiffin Gish" References: <000201c5ffc5$ce8bdd40$2101a8c0@ZGISH> X-Organization: Harish-Chandra Research Institute (HRI) X-Address: Chhatnag Road, Jhusi, Allahabad 211 019, India X-URL: http://www.mri.ernet.in/ X-Phone: +91 (532) 2667 509, 2667 318, 2667 578, 2567 746, 2567 747 X-Fax: +91 (532) 2667 576, 2567 748, 2567 444, 2568 036 X-OpenPGP-Key-ID: 0x03618806 X-OpenPGP-Key-Fingerprint: C75D D0AF 457E 7454 BEC2 37AD C6E1 0407 0361 8806 X-OpenPGP-Public-Key-Available-At: http://www.keyserver.net/ From: "N. Raghavendra" In-Reply-To: <000201c5ffc5$ce8bdd40$2101a8c0@ZGISH> Date: 13 Dec 2005 16:55:23 +0530 Message-ID: <86vextfdcs.fsf@riemann.mri.ernet.in> Lines: 19 User-Agent: Gnus/5.09 (Gnus v5.9.0) Emacs/21.3 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Lousy network performance ... X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: "N. Raghavendra" List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 13 Dec 2005 11:27:16 -0000 At 2005-12-13T10:15:48+01:00, Kiffin Gish wrote: > My service-provider claims that his network is just fine (of > course!) and that the problem is because of all the 'so-called junk' > I have configured on my home network on my side of the connection. You could use Iperf (http://dast.nlanr.net/Projects/Iperf/), if your ISP agrees to install an Iperf server at his end of the connection. When we had a similar problem here, the ISP refused to do so. Since the ISP believed only readings from MS Windows/Linux (and not *BSD), we put a machine running Linux at our end, and by downloading large files with wget(1) from high bandwidth servers like `kernel.org', convinced them that we were not getting what we should have been. Raghavendra. -- N. Raghavendra | See message headers for contact Harish-Chandra Research Institute | and OpenPGP details. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 13 11:39:34 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CBDD016A41F for ; Tue, 13 Dec 2005 11:39:34 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from mback99@telia.com) Received: from pne-smtpout2-sn2.hy.skanova.net (pne-smtpout2-sn2.hy.skanova.net [81.228.8.164]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6E69443D55 for ; Tue, 13 Dec 2005 11:39:34 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from mback99@telia.com) Received: from [192.168.0.2] (217.211.47.223) by pne-smtpout2-sn2.hy.skanova.net (7.2.069.1) (authenticated as u41020144) id 439E37D0000207C2 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Tue, 13 Dec 2005 12:39:33 +0100 Message-ID: <439EB2E6.3080904@telia.com> Date: Tue, 13 Dec 2005 12:39:18 +0100 From: Mikael Backman User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.7.12) Gecko/20051108 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: port math/maxima broken.... X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 13 Dec 2005 11:39:34 -0000 Hi, Is there anybody who knows when/if this port will be fixed? Is there any similar app in the ports tree? /Mikael From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 13 11:57:07 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 720AB16A41F for ; Tue, 13 Dec 2005 11:57:07 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from rubenl@bloemgarten.demon.nl) Received: from post-23.mail.nl.demon.net (post-23.mail.nl.demon.net [194.159.73.193]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0972643D5C for ; Tue, 13 Dec 2005 11:57:06 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from rubenl@bloemgarten.demon.nl) Received: from axelds.demon.nl ([83.160.138.74]:6565 helo=abubbletprpdda) by post-23.mail.nl.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1Em8mH-000I9A-Pt for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Tue, 13 Dec 2005 11:57:05 +0000 From: "Ruben Bloemgarten" To: Date: Tue, 13 Dec 2005 12:56:36 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook, Build 11.0.6353 In-Reply-To: <44irtu74q8.fsf@be-well.ilk.org> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1506 Thread-Index: AcX/KuSqZK1w+yzZTQ2YfDNob2fdIgAAQjew Message-Id: <20051213115706.0972643D5C@mx1.FreeBSD.org> Subject: RE: resolve appends domain section of hostname to non-existent domains X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: ruben@bloemgarten.demon.nl List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 13 Dec 2005 11:57:07 -0000 It is, combined with a wildcard in dns. Thanks for the input. -----Original Message----- From: lowell@be-well.ilk.org [mailto:lowell@be-well.ilk.org] On Behalf Of Lowell Gilbert Sent: December 12, 2005 3:47 PM To: ruben@bloemgarten.demon.nl Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: resolve appends domain section of hostname to non-existent domains "Ruben Bloemgarten" writes: > Hi all, > > > > Could anyone let me know what's misconfigured here: > > > > When I ping from say server2 # ping jkhdsfkhdsafhjsahfdhksa.com I get the > following reply : > > > > PING jkhdsfkhdsafhjsahfdhksa.com.mydomain2.com (ip.of.server.1): 56 data > bytes > > > > 64 bytes from ip.of.server.1: icmp_seq=0 ttl=64 time=0.594 ms > > 64 bytes from ip.of.server.1: icmp_seq=1 ttl=64 time=0.427 ms > > > > The same happens from server1; it appends it's domain name to the incorrect > domain > > > > # ping jkhdsfkhdsafhjsahfdhksa.com > > > > PING jkhdsfkhdsafhjsahfdhksa.com.mydomain1.com (ip.of.server.1): 56 data > bytes > > > > 64 bytes from ip.of.server.1: icmp_seq=0 ttl=64 time=0.594 ms > > 64 bytes from ip.of.server.1: icmp_seq=1 ttl=64 time=0.427 ms > > > > > > Server2 is running multiple jails behind ipf/ipnat on 5.4-Release. > > Server1 is not running jails or ipf/nat. on 5.2.1-Current > > > > Server1 responds on both systems, which are in the same subnet at the same > colo. > > > > A dig from both systems does reply correctly, stating that > jkhdsfkhdsafhjsahfdhksa.com does not exist. Which leads me to feel that it > would most probably be hosts file related. As the hosts file on both systems > are not doing anything weird i.e.: > > Server2: ip.natted.lan server2 server2.mydomain2.com server2.mydomain2.com. > > Server1: ip.static.wan server1 server1.mydomain1.com server2.mydomain2.com. > > > > Although, as dns has already taken place (on existing domains it does > resolve correctly), it would seem that something is happening after > hosts->dns-> (not using nis). > > > > > Isn't this just the search parameter for resolv.conf(5)? -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.371 / Virus Database: 267.13.13/197 - Release Date: 12/09/2005 -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.371 / Virus Database: 267.13.13/197 - Release Date: 12/09/2005 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 13 12:22:00 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AE42616A41F for ; Tue, 13 Dec 2005 12:22:00 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from nsrashmi@gmail.com) Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.197]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E635943D66 for ; Tue, 13 Dec 2005 12:21:58 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from nsrashmi@gmail.com) Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 55so119770wri for ; Tue, 13 Dec 2005 04:21:58 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; b=lsxlj/AWzdI4n5wC0+LcnVnIBvyw97SxPqoEsTUq1dd2OKpxjEWUWl0SiRmeIVpCliBI7NBk072hbrk6mGcBeUJt5SNenS4Xz2Ycw5+j4wC8p5rnEOulDSGuZDJAaziCKieAp/nLaOPn/ejcI9khYVyuxu3gtl8hANMGLozCAG4= Received: by 10.65.72.10 with SMTP id z10mr546130qbk; Tue, 13 Dec 2005 04:21:58 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.64.204.16 with HTTP; Tue, 13 Dec 2005 04:21:57 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <9f9993160512130421m60fe7303l311c13b542544551@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 13 Dec 2005 17:51:57 +0530 From: rashmi ns To: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org, freebsd-drivers@freebsd.org, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, bugi@lists.redbrick.dcu.ie MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline Cc: Subject: Help reqd: Configuring sppp X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 13 Dec 2005 12:22:00 -0000 Hi, I am facing problem in using sppp. Both local system amd remote systems are using the sppp. My questions are 1.Can we use sppp as PPP server? 2.If answer to first question is yes ,how can I do that? I tried out the following commands. $ifconfig hdlc0 up After this command interface is sending LCP-CONF-REQUEST. Also getting the LCP-CONF-ACK from the remote system. Sending and receiving of REQ and ACK is going on ,but after getting ACK sppp is not sending next phase (IPCP) packet to remote system. Pls help me in fixing this.Pls let me know any pointers regarding this. Regards, Rashmi From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 13 12:38:41 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EFDC516A41F for ; Tue, 13 Dec 2005 12:38:41 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from pietro.cerutti@gmail.com) Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.192]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6F64143D49 for ; Tue, 13 Dec 2005 12:38:41 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from pietro.cerutti@gmail.com) Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 69so107207wri for ; Tue, 13 Dec 2005 04:38:40 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=E7FgFEiF97Mukr1KNpqwO4DGcN05RDLjeU/GFSJ60f/Lxi5zN/VB7oY/hy6C5de4pt2VqERsL/djArH3jn9AjFcDOPLYx/y9MeqjCh5mvSo1FbGcBfEHUbqQoV5yGVgtoLItp0kTbsooYdPNhaLTFw8cC8Bf9NXUD8dJmvI+imo= Received: by 10.65.40.12 with SMTP id s12mr491890qbj; Tue, 13 Dec 2005 04:38:40 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.64.150.18 with HTTP; Tue, 13 Dec 2005 04:38:40 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: Date: Tue, 13 Dec 2005 13:38:40 +0100 From: Pietro Cerutti To: Elmer Rivera , FreeBSD In-Reply-To: <43c190410512130257l1366b4c3rf56f44f5f451b93@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline References: <43c190410512130257l1366b4c3rf56f44f5f451b93@mail.gmail.com> Cc: Subject: Re: ipfilter question X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 13 Dec 2005 12:38:42 -0000 On 12/13/05, Elmer Rivera wrote: > hello, Hello, > > my freebsd box is already setup and followed some of the docs on > setting up the firewall using ipfilter. question on logging. > > setup /var/log/ipfilter.log as my log file. How/where did you set this up? > modified syslog.conf. How did you modified this? > its working now unfortunately, its loggin on > that file AND to my messages log file. is it possible to log ipfilter > log only to my log file? Yes, it is possible. Here's my setup: /etc/rc.conf ipmon_enable=3D"YES" ipmon_flags=3D"-Dns" /etc/syslog.conf security.* /var/log/ipfilter.log Make sure you don't have any other security.* facility specified in /etc/syslog.conf > > thanks > -- > Elmer Rivera, http://www.vizcayano.com, http://youand.i.ph > Hope this helps, -- Pietro Cerutti Beansidhe - SwiSS Death / Thrash Metal Windows: "Where do you want to go today?" Linux: "Where do you want to go tomorrow?" FreeBSD: "Are you guys coming or what?" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 13 12:41:47 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6AD5916A41F for ; Tue, 13 Dec 2005 12:41:47 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from pietro.cerutti@gmail.com) Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.204]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A47A743D5C for ; Tue, 13 Dec 2005 12:41:46 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from pietro.cerutti@gmail.com) Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id i21so1445880wra for ; Tue, 13 Dec 2005 04:41:46 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; b=tnK8f4cjB2Jnf3iZvWUiL4lkDKuQG7J782JJpSXeT/6rTW7R0luAiRKUQjgjCGg37SfHDbxe7jrA79VkUh1zT8PjXCxgZppIA3X8NnZBe2OoEwxwtXzFHqvCV/UPkbHMXVMqhfW/8J4LfrV5XH2FAuxR7TxBR80tl/Sc5WO6G6k= Received: by 10.64.184.5 with SMTP id h5mr513942qbf; Tue, 13 Dec 2005 04:41:43 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.64.150.18 with HTTP; Tue, 13 Dec 2005 04:41:42 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: Date: Tue, 13 Dec 2005 13:41:42 +0100 From: Pietro Cerutti To: FreeBSD MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline Subject: Policy on the list X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 13 Dec 2005 12:41:47 -0000 Hi list, just a little question about how to behave on the list(s): is it correct / useful / polite to close a thread marking it as [solved] or something like this, or it's just a waste of time / space / .... ? I think it could be useful, so other people wanting to help don't waste time trying to give further advices, and people needing help in that subject can see that the problem has been solved. Thanx, -- Pietro Cerutti Beansidhe - SwiSS Death / Thrash Metal Windows: "Where do you want to go today?" Linux: "Where do you want to go tomorrow?" FreeBSD: "Are you guys coming or what?" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 13 12:51:07 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7758316A41F for ; Tue, 13 Dec 2005 12:51:07 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from pietro.cerutti@gmail.com) Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.196]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6B59C43D5F for ; Tue, 13 Dec 2005 12:51:04 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from pietro.cerutti@gmail.com) Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 13so1563349nzp for ; Tue, 13 Dec 2005 04:51:02 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=pWPAtUxNR9i0RoVjGRMfZe+AcrGieCr15WZQHcZgRSQudeZuh5yVedggH9kl2dDNjbFcj+bDkAL8RkUSA6DLh2OvjdRGeXpRSIlOSiSd3qHhr+aQza+6bab/dITP8dasnXe4Wgy/0Y9tZgiN3pHVv32MCIHNRPJJm9AMXoSKPN8= Received: by 10.64.232.11 with SMTP id e11mr6548123qbh; Tue, 13 Dec 2005 04:51:02 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.64.150.18 with HTTP; Tue, 13 Dec 2005 04:51:02 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: Date: Tue, 13 Dec 2005 13:51:02 +0100 From: Pietro Cerutti To: Mikael Backman , FreeBSD In-Reply-To: <439EB2E6.3080904@telia.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline References: <439EB2E6.3080904@telia.com> Cc: Subject: Re: port math/maxima broken.... X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 13 Dec 2005 12:51:07 -0000 On 12/13/05, Mikael Backman wrote: > Hi, > Is there anybody who knows when/if this port will be fixed? > Is there any similar app in the ports tree? > /Mikael You should get in touch with the mantainer of the port, sfslappyorg, or try to post it on freebsd-ports. Regards, -- Pietro Cerutti Beansidhe - SwiSS Death / Thrash Metal Windows: "Where do you want to go today?" Linux: "Where do you want to go tomorrow?" FreeBSD: "Are you guys coming or what?" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 13 12:56:45 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D7E3C16A41F for ; Tue, 13 Dec 2005 12:56:45 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: from aiolos.otenet.gr (aiolos.otenet.gr [195.170.0.93]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1703D43D58 for ; Tue, 13 Dec 2005 12:56:44 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: from flame.pc (aris.bedc.ondsl.gr [62.103.39.226]) by aiolos.otenet.gr (8.13.4/8.13.4/Debian-8) with SMTP id jBDCufUb024837; Tue, 13 Dec 2005 14:56:42 +0200 Received: by flame.pc (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 1893F11478; Tue, 13 Dec 2005 14:55:49 +0200 (EET) Date: Tue, 13 Dec 2005 14:55:48 +0200 From: Giorgos Keramidas To: Pietro Cerutti Message-ID: <20051213125548.GA4446@flame.pc> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Policy on the list X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 13 Dec 2005 12:56:46 -0000 On 2005-12-13 13:41, Pietro Cerutti wrote: > Hi list, > just a little question about how to behave on the list(s): > > is it correct / useful / polite to close a thread marking it as > [solved] or something like this, or it's just a waste of time / space > / .... ? > > I think it could be useful, so other people wanting to help don't > waste time trying to give further advices, and people needing help in > that subject can see that the problem has been solved. It's nice, IMHO. Exactly for the reasons you describe. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 13 13:08:43 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 18C8316A41F for ; Tue, 13 Dec 2005 13:08:43 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from sasa@stupar.homelinux.net) Received: from avs2.arnes.si (avs2.arnes.si [193.2.1.75]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9FD2243D8D for ; Tue, 13 Dec 2005 13:08:25 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from sasa@stupar.homelinux.net) Received: from localhost (avs2.arnes.si [193.2.1.75]) by avs2.arnes.si (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6D74126D41F for ; Tue, 13 Dec 2005 14:08:24 +0100 (CET) Received: from avs2.arnes.si ([193.2.1.75]) by localhost (avs2.arnes.si [193.2.1.75]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 31904-09 for ; Tue, 13 Dec 2005 14:08:24 +0100 (CET) Received: from xmail.homelinux.net (cmb16-74.dial-up.arnes.si [194.249.51.74]) by avs2.arnes.si (Postfix) with ESMTP id E2ED526D3E3 for ; Tue, 13 Dec 2005 14:08:23 +0100 (CET) Received: from [192.168.10.249] (master.workgroup [192.168.10.249]) (authenticated bits=0) by xmail.homelinux.net (8.13.5/8.13.3) with ESMTP id jBDD8L4j016124 for ; Tue, 13 Dec 2005 14:08:21 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from sasa@stupar.homelinux.net) Date: Tue, 13 Dec 2005 14:08:23 +0100 From: Sasa Stupar To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <9E485B2920914ACF50078ED2@[192.168.10.249]> In-Reply-To: <20051213103621.GA1237@flame.pc> References: <200512130029.jBD0T11I020665@clunix.cl.msu.edu> <9CF863F9FF55D6301DA0C9B3@[192.168.10.249]> <20051213103621.GA1237@flame.pc> X-Mailer: Mulberry/3.1.6 (Win32) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV version 0.87.1, clamav-milter version 0.87 on mig29.workgroup X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at arnes.si Subject: Re: Slices X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 13 Dec 2005 13:08:43 -0000 --On 13. december 2005 12:36 +0200 Giorgos Keramidas wrote: > On 2005-12-13 09:36, Sasa Stupar wrote: >>> The main two reasons for dividing up your FreeBSD disk in to >>> partitions rather than making just one big partition are to reduce >>> the threat of runaway processes and to manage backup and restore >>> sizes. >>> >>> Think those things out to meet your needs and resources. >> >> OK. But then what would be ideal slice size for /, /var, /usr, /boot? > > That's not something that can be answered easily with a "template" > answer. The best sizes are those that match your own needs and > preferences, but only you can describe what these are.' > > Back when I bought a new, bigger disk, I wrote this post: > > > http://keramida.serverhive.com/weblog/archives/2004-10-26/daemonizing-a-n > ew-disk > > which includes a description of the partitions I used and why I chose > these sizes. > > The tuning(7) manpage also has a good description of how to pick a good > disk partitioning scheme: > > > http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/man.cgi?query=tuning&sektion=7&apropos=0&manpa > th=FreeBSD+6.0-RELEASE+and+Ports > Thanx. This is very good explanation. -- Sasa Stupar From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 13 13:13:23 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7886216A41F for ; Tue, 13 Dec 2005 13:13:23 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from bob@bobleeit.net) Received: from fed1rmmtao02.cox.net (fed1rmmtao02.cox.net [68.230.241.37]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8A3C343D6A for ; Tue, 13 Dec 2005 13:13:19 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from bob@bobleeit.net) Received: from mach.bobleeit.net ([24.251.222.159]) by fed1rmmtao02.cox.net (InterMail vM.6.01.05.02 201-2131-123-102-20050715) with SMTP id <20051213131157.MGUS17006.fed1rmmtao02.cox.net@mach.bobleeit.net> for ; Tue, 13 Dec 2005 08:11:57 -0500 Received: by mach.bobleeit.net (sSMTP sendmail emulation); Tue, 13 Dec 2005 06:13:12 -0700 From: "Bob Lee" Date: Tue, 13 Dec 2005 06:13:12 -0700 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20051213131312.GA5396@mach.bobleeit.net> References: <000201c5ffc5$ce8bdd40$2101a8c0@ZGISH> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="IJpNTDwzlM2Ie8A6" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <000201c5ffc5$ce8bdd40$2101a8c0@ZGISH> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.11 Subject: Re: Lousy network performance ... X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Bob Lee List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 13 Dec 2005 13:13:23 -0000 --IJpNTDwzlM2Ie8A6 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Quoting Kiffin Gish : > I am having problems with a slow Internet DSL-connection, especially while > surfing around the web. Try starting with bing and choose some points you can test from both in and out of your local network. Bing should be in the ports collection. Bob >=20 > --=20 > Kiffin Rex Gish > Gouda, The Netherlands >=20 > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.o= rg" --=20 Robert Lee PGP: D3EE2268 pgp.mit.edu I prefer email in plain text --IJpNTDwzlM2Ie8A6 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.2 (NetBSD) iD8DBQFDnsjoX1c+K9PuImkRApNhAKCCL3QRbrKp1zV6xzKjz3NyCEMQegCeOTpn 6iXedVFaKxG+i1mM54z/LGk= =Z+ff -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --IJpNTDwzlM2Ie8A6-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 13 13:14:59 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7ED7C16A41F for ; Tue, 13 Dec 2005 13:14:59 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from fbsd_user@a1poweruser.com) Received: from mta11.adelphia.net (mta11.adelphia.net [68.168.78.205]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B816A43D76 for ; Tue, 13 Dec 2005 13:14:35 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from fbsd_user@a1poweruser.com) Received: from barbish ([69.172.31.117]) by mta11.adelphia.net (InterMail vM.6.01.05.02 201-2131-123-102-20050715) with SMTP id <20051213131429.GZOK4477.mta11.adelphia.net@barbish>; Tue, 13 Dec 2005 08:14:29 -0500 From: "fbsd_user" To: "Pietro Cerutti" , "Elmer Rivera" , "FreeBSD" Date: Tue, 13 Dec 2005 08:14:25 -0500 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.6604 (9.0.2911.0) In-Reply-To: Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1409 Cc: Subject: RE: ipfilter question X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: fbsd_user@a1poweruser.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 13 Dec 2005 13:14:59 -0000 In FBSD 4.11 and older, ipfilter logged to local0. Then in 5.4 it was changed to security. Now in 6.0 it has reverted back to logging to local0. The /etc/syslog.conf file is where you define the log files. -----Original Message----- From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org [mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]On Behalf Of Pietro Cerutti Sent: Tuesday, December 13, 2005 7:39 AM To: Elmer Rivera; FreeBSD Subject: Re: ipfilter question On 12/13/05, Elmer Rivera wrote: > hello, Hello, > > my freebsd box is already setup and followed some of the docs on > setting up the firewall using ipfilter. question on logging. > > setup /var/log/ipfilter.log as my log file. How/where did you set this up? > modified syslog.conf. How did you modified this? > its working now unfortunately, its loggin on > that file AND to my messages log file. is it possible to log ipfilter > log only to my log file? Yes, it is possible. Here's my setup: /etc/rc.conf ipmon_enable="YES" ipmon_flags="-Dns" /etc/syslog.conf security.* /var/log/ipfilter.log Make sure you don't have any other security.* facility specified in /etc/syslog.conf > > thanks > -- > Elmer Rivera, http://www.vizcayano.com, http://youand.i.ph > Hope this helps, -- Pietro Cerutti Beansidhe - SwiSS Death / Thrash Metal Windows: "Where do you want to go today?" Linux: "Where do you want to go tomorrow?" FreeBSD: "Are you guys coming or what?" _______________________________________________ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 13 13:20:58 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 105E216A41F for ; Tue, 13 Dec 2005 13:20:58 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from pietro.cerutti@gmail.com) Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.199]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BD61943D6B for ; Tue, 13 Dec 2005 13:20:44 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from pietro.cerutti@gmail.com) Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 55so132839wri for ; Tue, 13 Dec 2005 05:20:42 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=S38flIHxmvNVdMQsR+N/6qhKXqh9cC6clO6L4jt3XQrxueQr35noiB4hdmuQQK1wKs8OOrEebKNUyuusUmOUXNGl/1iK0a7bI8va6tQG20HNdKo58Sqnb5B7xoqzcK7lWX3uJvngI6eg/jnNA/4yzynkBFGDowlvArILQllMbBA= Received: by 10.65.72.10 with SMTP id z10mr588328qbk; Tue, 13 Dec 2005 05:20:42 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.64.150.18 with HTTP; Tue, 13 Dec 2005 05:20:42 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: Date: Tue, 13 Dec 2005 14:20:42 +0100 From: Pietro Cerutti To: Imran Imtiaz , FreeBSD In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline References: <200512130744.jBD7iUUj073920@darkstar.thelakecity.com.pk> Cc: Subject: Re: ftp problem X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 13 Dec 2005 13:20:58 -0000 On 12/13/05, Imran Imtiaz wrote: > > here is my whole firewall script > > ################################################################# > # No restrictions on Inside Lan Interface for private network > # Not needed unless you have Lan > ################################################################# > # block messenger to log from proxy > block in log first quick on rl0 proto tcp from any to 207.46.0.0/16 port = =3D > 80 > pass out quick on rl0 all > pass in quick on rl0 all > ################################################################# > # No restrictions on Loopback Interface > ################################################################# > pass in quick on lo0 all > pass out quick on lo0 all > ################################################################# > # Interface facing Public Internet (Outbound Section) > # Interrogate session start requests originating from behind the > # firewall on the private network > # or from this gateway server destine for the public Internet. > ################################################################# > # Allow out access to my ISP's Domain name server. > # xxx must be the IP address of your ISP.s DNS. > # Dup these lines if your ISP has more than one DNS server > # Get the IP addresses from /etc/resolv.conf file > # I allow all dns traffice cause I am running my own DNS Server > pass out quick on xl0 proto tcp from any to any port =3D 53 flags S keep = state > pass out quick on xl0 proto udp from any to any port =3D 53 keep state > # Allow msn messenger > pass out log first quick on xl0 proto tcp from any to any port =3D 1863 f= lags > S keep state > pass out log first quick on xl0 proto udp from any to any port =3D 1863 k= eep > state > # This rule is not needed for .user ppp. type connection to the > # public Internet, so you can delete this whole group. > # Use the following rule and check log for IP address. > # Then put IP address in commented out rule & delete first rule > #pass out log quick on xl0 proto udp from any to any port =3D 67 keep sta= te > #pass out quick on xl0 proto udp from any to z.z.z.z port =3D 67 keep sta= te > > # Allow out non-secure standard www function > pass out quick on xl0 proto tcp from any to any port =3D 80 flags S keep = state > # Allow out windows update time protocol > pass out quick on xl0 proto udp from any to any port =3D 123 keep state > # Allow out secure www function https over TLS SSL > pass out quick on xl0 proto tcp from any to any port =3D 443 flags S keep > state > # Allow out send & get email function > pass out quick on xl0 proto tcp from any to any port =3D 110 flags S keep > state > pass out quick on xl0 proto tcp from any to any port =3D 25 flags S keep = state > # Allow out Time > pass out quick on xl0 proto tcp from any to any port =3D 37 flags S keep = state > # Allow out Mdaemon World Client traffic > pass out quick on xl0 proto tcp from any to any port =3D 3000 flags S kee= p > state > # Allow out eDonkey > # pass out quick on xl0 proto tcp from any to any port =3D 4661 flags S k= eep > state > # pass out quick on xl0 proto udp from any to any port =3D 4661 keep stat= e > # pass out quick on xl0 proto tcp from any to any port =3D 4662 flags S k= eep > state > # pass out quick on xl0 proto udp from any to any port =3D 4662 keep stat= e > # Allow out Dictionary Protocol which works on port 2628 > pass out quick on xl0 proto tcp from any to any port =3D 2628 flags S kee= p > state > # Allow out nntp news > pass out quick on xl0 proto tcp from any to any port =3D 119 flags S keep > state > # Allow out gateway & LAN users non-secure FTP ( both passive & active > modes) > # This function uses the IPNAT built in FTP proxy function coded in > # the nat rules file to make this single rule function correctly. > # If you want to use the pkg_add command to install application packages > # on your gateway system you need this rule. > pass out quick on xl0 proto tcp from any to any port =3D 21 flags S keep = state > # Allow out secure FTP, Telnet, and SCP > # This function is using SSH (secure shell) > pass out quick on xl0 proto tcp from any to any port =3D 22 flags S keep = state > # Allow out non-secure Telnet > pass out quick on xl0 proto tcp from any to any port =3D 23 flags S keep = state > # Allow out FreeBSD CVSUP function > pass out quick on xl0 proto tcp from any to any port =3D 5999 flags S kee= p > state > # Allow out ping to public Internet > pass out log first quick on xl0 proto icmp from any to any keep state > # Allow out whois for LAN PC to public Internet > pass out quick on xl0 proto tcp from any to any port =3D 43 flags S keep = state > # Block and log only the first occurrence of everything > # else that.s trying to get out. > # This rule enforces the block all by default logic. > block out log first quick on xl0 all > ################################################################# > # Interface facing Public Internet (Inbound Section) > # Interrogate packets originating from the public Internet > # destine for this gateway server or the private network. > ################################################################# > # Block all inbound traffic from non-routable or reserved address spaces > block in quick on xl0 from 192.168.0.0/16 to any #RFC 1918 private IP > block in quick on xl0 from 172.16.0.0/12 to any #RFC 1918 private IP > block in quick on xl0 from 10.0.0.0/8 to any #RFC 1918 private IP > block in quick on xl0 from 127.0.0.0/8 to any #loopback > block in quick on xl0 from 0.0.0.0/8 to any #loopback > block in quick on xl0 from 169.254.0.0/16 to any #DHCP auto-config > block in quick on xl0 from 192.0.2.0/24 to any #reserved for docs > block in quick on xl0 from 204.152.64.0/23 to any #Sun cluster interconne= ct > block in quick on xl0 from 224.0.0.0/3 to any #Class D & E multicast > ##### Block a bunch of different nasty things. ############ > # That I don't want to see in the log > # Block frags > block in quick on xl0 all with frags > # Block short tcp packets > block in quick on xl0 proto tcp all with short > # block source routed packets > block in quick on xl0 all with opt lsrr > block in quick on xl0 all with opt ssrr > # Block nmap OS fingerprint attempts > # Log first occurrence of these so I can get their IP address > block in log first quick on xl0 proto tcp from any to any flags FUP > # Block anything with special options > block in quick on xl0 all with ipopts > # Block public pings > #block in quick on xl0 proto icmp all icmp-type 8 > # Block ident > block in quick on xl0 proto tcp from any to any port =3D 113 > # Block all Netbios service. 137=3Dname, 138=3Ddatagram, 139=3Dsession > # Netbios is MS/Windows sharing services. > # Block MS/Windows hosts2 name server requests 81 > block in log first quick on xl0 proto tcp/udp from any to any port =3D 13= 7 > block in log first quick on xl0 proto tcp/udp from any to any port =3D 13= 8 > block in log first quick on xl0 proto tcp/udp from any to any port =3D 13= 9 > block in log first quick on xl0 proto tcp/udp from any to any port =3D 81 > # Allow traffic in from ISP's DHCP server. This rule must contain > # the IP address of your ISP.s DHCP server as it.s the only > # authorized source to send this packet type. Only necessary for > # cable or DSL configurations. This rule is not needed for > # .user ppp. type connection to the public Internet. > # This is the same IP address you captured and > # used in the outbound section. > #pass in quick on xl0 proto udp from z.z.z.z to any port =3D 68 keep stat= e > # Allow in standard www function because I have apache server > pass in quick on xl0 proto tcp from any to any port =3D 80 flags S keep s= tate > # Allow in standard ntop web interface > pass in quick on xl0 proto tcp from any to any port =3D 3000 flags S keep > state > # Allow in eDonkey web management interface > pass in quick on xl0 proto tcp from any to any port =3D 4711 flags S keep > state > # Allow in eDonkey interface > #pass in quick on xl0 proto tcp from any to any port =3D 3389 flags S kee= p > state > # Allow in non-secure Telnet session from public Internet > # labeled non-secure because ID/PW passed over public Internet as clear > text. > # Delete this sample group if you do not have telnet server enabled. > #pass in quick on xl0 proto tcp from any to any port =3D 23 flags S keep = state > # Allow in secure FTP, Telnet, and SCP from public Internet > # This function is using SSH (secure shell) > pass in quick on xl0 proto tcp from any to any port =3D 22 flags S keep s= tate > pass in quick on xl0 proto tcp from any to any port =3D 21 flags S keep s= tate > # Block and log only first occurrence of all remaining traffic > # coming into the firewall. The logging of only the first > # occurrence stops a .denial of service. attack targeted > # at filling up your log file space. > # This rule enforces the block all by default logic. > block in log first quick on xl0 all > ################### End of rules file > ##################################### > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Pietro Cerutti > To: Imran Imtiaz , > FreeBSD > Date: Tue, 13 Dec 2005 11:24:20 +0100 > Subject: Re: ftp problem > > > On 12/13/05, Imran Imtiaz > wrote: > > > I am running a ftp server on my computer it works fine if i do not > > enable the firewall but as I enable the firewall on my system ftp > > doesn't works although I have open port 21 in firewall. my ftp client > > do gets connected but when i try to dir or any other commands its say > > no route. below is the output of my ftp client > > > C:\Documents and Settings\Asif>ftp darkstar.thelakecity.com.pk > > > Connected to darkstar.thelakecity.com.pk. > > > 220 ProFTPD 1.2.10 Server (ProFTPD Default Installation) > > [202.59.74.139] > > > User (darkstar.thelakecity.com.pk:(none)): anonymous > > > 331 Anonymous login ok, send your complete email address as your > > password. > > > Password: > > > 230 Anonymous access granted, restrictions apply. > > > ftp> dir > > > 200 PORT command successful > > > 425 Unable to build data connection: No route to host > > > ftp> quti > > > Invalid command. > > > ftp> quit > > > 221 Goodbye. > > > > FTP works in a two-channel mode. > > One channel is used for commands, while the other is the data channel, > > where your files go through... > > > > Example of sockstat on the server, during an ftp connection > > > > COMMAND PID FD PROTO LOCAL ADDRESS FOREIGN ADDRESS > > ftpd 55377 6 tcp4 192.168.1.6:21 > > 192.168.1.3:58121 > > ftpd 55377 9 tcp4 192.168.1.6:53808 > > 192.168.1.3:60020 > > > > As you can see, the first line is the command channel (local port 21 > > used), while the second line is the data channel (local port 53808 > > (could be any)). > > > > Your firewall accepts connections on port 21, but doesn't allow the > > data channel to be extabilished. > > > > Can you post the relevant lines in your firewall rules file? > > > > -- > > Pietro Cerutti > > > > > > Beansidhe - SwiSS Death / Thrash Metal > > > > > > Windows: "Where do you want to go today?" > > Linux: "Where do you want to go tomorrow?" > > FreeBSD: "Are you guys coming or what?" > Where are the FTP connections coming from? On which interface? Try tcpdumping a connection, and see where does the connection get lost. -- Pietro Cerutti Beansidhe - SwiSS Death / Thrash Metal Windows: "Where do you want to go today?" Linux: "Where do you want to go tomorrow?" FreeBSD: "Are you guys coming or what?" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 13 13:47:15 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7235016A420 for ; Tue, 13 Dec 2005 13:47:15 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from uwe@laverenz.de) Received: from natblindhugh.rzone.de (natblindhugh.rzone.de [81.169.145.175]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6E43743D55 for ; Tue, 13 Dec 2005 13:47:11 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from uwe@laverenz.de) Received: from athena.laverenz.de (p5480CA5D.dip.t-dialin.net [84.128.202.93]) by post.webmailer.de (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id jBDDl5GU016506 for ; Tue, 13 Dec 2005 14:47:05 +0100 (MET) Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by athena.laverenz.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id EC416E0008EA for ; Tue, 13 Dec 2005 14:47:04 +0100 (CET) Received: from athena.laverenz.de ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (athena [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 13974-03 for ; Tue, 13 Dec 2005 14:47:04 +0100 (CET) Received: by athena.laverenz.de (Postfix, from userid 2000) id 19520E0008E8; Tue, 13 Dec 2005 14:47:03 +0100 (CET) Date: Tue, 13 Dec 2005 14:47:03 +0100 From: Uwe Laverenz To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20051213134703.GB13012@laverenz.de> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <200512131412.24449.gentoo@tmgcon.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <200512131412.24449.gentoo@tmgcon.com> Organization: private site Sender: uwe@laverenz.de User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.9i X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new-20030616-p10 (Debian) at laverenz.de Subject: Re: Problem installing devel/pear X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 13 Dec 2005 13:47:15 -0000 On Tue, Dec 13, 2005 at 02:12:24PM +1300, Tom Munro Glass wrote: > Stop in /ports/devel/pear. > > Can someone please tell me how to fix this? I have the same problem on two machines and I don't have a solution for this, but there's a thread about this in the @ports mailing list. Uwe From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 13 14:09:22 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C606E16A41F for ; Tue, 13 Dec 2005 14:09:22 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from pietro.cerutti@gmail.com) Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.202]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 97BA343D6D for ; Tue, 13 Dec 2005 14:09:16 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from pietro.cerutti@gmail.com) Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 55so144213wri for ; Tue, 13 Dec 2005 06:09:15 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=qT4HbweVYXo1r9gP0oUHJjGsBu1Cr7UxYckTXSLWESxO+kFvwzdYPLMwEdSiyRAcK7zH1YJWksWHpM8eLwwEK+dxC35j3tpsuUtWkP/7xYzhX2LglPSSBtHPSn5xut8LfULvYH48Pi9Jzcq0fuZ+bayqlc8nHQT5QQhbL9fmAmE= Received: by 10.65.72.10 with SMTP id z10mr635610qbk; Tue, 13 Dec 2005 06:09:14 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.64.150.18 with HTTP; Tue, 13 Dec 2005 06:09:14 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: Date: Tue, 13 Dec 2005 15:09:14 +0100 From: Pietro Cerutti To: Imran Imtiaz , FreeBSD In-Reply-To: <000b01c5ffed$c25353a0$3901a8c0@abc> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline References: <200512130744.jBD7iUUj073920@darkstar.thelakecity.com.pk> <000b01c5ffed$c25353a0$3901a8c0@abc> Cc: Subject: Re: ftp problem X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 13 Dec 2005 14:09:22 -0000 On 12/13/05, Imran Imtiaz wrote: > they are comming on xl0 interface Then you should enable in/outbound traffic on your xl0 interface, for the ports from 49152 through 65535, used for the data-channel connection. -- Pietro Cerutti Beansidhe - SwiSS Death / Thrash Metal Windows: "Where do you want to go today?" Linux: "Where do you want to go tomorrow?" FreeBSD: "Are you guys coming or what?" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 13 14:48:33 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D939A16A423 for ; Tue, 13 Dec 2005 14:48:33 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from drew@mykitchentable.net) Received: from relay04.roc.ny.frontiernet.net (relay04.roc.ny.frontiernet.net [66.133.182.167]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 06D3D43D75 for ; Tue, 13 Dec 2005 14:48:17 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from drew@mykitchentable.net) Received: from blacklamb.mykitchentable.net (67-137-46-178.dsl2.elk.ca.frontiernet.net [67.137.46.178]) by relay04.roc.ny.frontiernet.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E22C63587E3; Tue, 13 Dec 2005 14:48:14 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [192.168.1.3] (unknown [192.168.1.3]) by blacklamb.mykitchentable.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 29A1E153ECD; Tue, 13 Dec 2005 06:48:13 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <439EDF2D.2050701@mykitchentable.net> Date: Tue, 13 Dec 2005 06:48:13 -0800 From: Drew Tomlinson User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.7 (Windows/20050923) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Ted Mittelstaedt References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new-2.3.2 (20050629) at filter09.roc.ny.frontiernet.net Cc: Michael Vince , danial_thom@yahoo.com, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, Kris Kennaway Subject: Re: Polling For 100 mbps Connections? (Was Re: Freebsd Theme Song) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 13 Dec 2005 14:48:34 -0000 Ted Mittelstaedt wrote, On 12/13/2005 12:44 AM: > > >>-----Original Message----- >>From: Drew Tomlinson [mailto:drew@mykitchentable.net] >>Sent: Monday, December 12, 2005 12:30 PM >>To: Ted Mittelstaedt >>Cc: Michael Vince; danial_thom@yahoo.com; freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; >>Kris Kennaway >>Subject: Polling For 100 mbps Connections? (Was Re: Freebsd Theme Song) >> >> >>On 12/12/2005 8:13 AM Ted Mittelstaedt wrote: >> >> >> >>>Michael, >>> >>> Fundamentally, here's the problem Danial is claiming exists: >>> >>>it takes a certain amount of time to get the packet clocked in >>> >>> >>>from the network into the ethernet receiver. This is hardware >> >> >>>dependent and cannot be changed. >>> >>>It takes a certain amount of time to get the packet out of >>>the hardware in the ethernet card into main ram, this also >>>hardware dependent and cannot be changed. (unless the device >>>driver is terribly inefficient, which we will assume it's not) >>> >>>Once in main ram, the information in the packet has to go through >>>a number of code statements. The more code statements the >>>longer the information in the packet is sitting around in >>>the FreeBSD system's memory. >>> >>>It then takes a certain amount of time to get the information >>>out of main memory into the other sending ethernet nic's buffers, >>> >>>and it takes time to get it out of the sending nic back to the >>>wire. >>> >>>Danial is claiming the slowness is in the main ram section of >>>things, not in the ethernet driver code. >>> >>>polling makes the ethernet driver more efficient at high data >>>rates, but it does nothing for the speed of processing within >>>the TCPIP stack itself. At low data rates polling is less >>>efficient than the interrupt method. And unless the nic driver >>>is terribly inefficient to start with, the time it adds to the >>>packet path in the system is minor compared to the time spent >>>in the TCP/IP stack. >>> >>>Ted >>> >>> >>> >>> >>Thanks for the explanation. So would polling be beneficial or >>detrimental for a 100 mbps Ethernet card? >> >> > >Yes, if you were running 100Mbt's of bandwidth through it. > > I assume you mean "yes it's beneficial"? :) >>Not sure if 100 mbps is >>considered "high" or "low" speed. I'm specifically interested in >>NetGear cards using the dc driver or DLink cards using the rl driver. >> >> >> > >The rl chipset isn't known as a very good chipset. YMMV > > Yeah, I've heard that a lot. It was an old card I had lying around and it seems to work OK for me. I'm not using it for anything other that connecting to a 802.11b wireless bridge. Very little traffic. >Some of the Netgear cards use clone 21143 chipsets which are >extremely inferior to the real thing. In particular if your >Netgear card is using a PNIC chipset it is pretty bad with serious >performance penalty. This is documented in Section 4 of the dc manpage. > > This is disapointing. I was under the impression that NetGear cards were pretty good. But now I looked closer at dmesg.boot and see I have the PNIC chipset you mention. I'll read the dc man page to see what penalties I'm suffering. >People seem to have good results with polling on the fxp cards. > > Ah, the built in interface on a HP e60 server I have. It's an old dog used as a file server. It has been nothing but reliable and is still chuggin' along just fine. I'll enable polling on it and see if there's any noticeable improvement in transfer rates. The machine that typically is used for large file transfers to and from the e60 is a Windows XP box that has a Nvidia Nforce 4 chipset and whatever intergrated ethernet port that comes with that chipset. Are there any known issues with this setup that would invalidate my test? Thanks again for the info. Drew >Ted > > > -- Visit The Alchemist's Warehouse Magic Tricks, DVDs, Videos, Books, & More! http://www.alchemistswarehouse.com From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 13 14:54:20 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 46B3B16A420 for ; Tue, 13 Dec 2005 14:54:20 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from mark@gaiahost.coop) Received: from biodiesel.gaiahost.coop (biodiesel.gaiahost.coop [64.95.78.120]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8073C43D8C for ; Tue, 13 Dec 2005 14:53:58 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from mark@gaiahost.coop) Received: from localhost (host-64-65-195-19.spr.choiceone.net [::ffff:64.65.195.19]) (AUTH: LOGIN mark@hubcapconsulting.com) by biodiesel.gaiahost.coop with esmtp; Tue, 13 Dec 2005 09:53:54 -0500 id 006FC064.439EE083.00007756 Received: by localhost (sSMTP sendmail emulation); Tue, 13 Dec 2005 09:54:06 -0500 Date: Tue, 13 Dec 2005 09:54:06 -0500 From: Mark Bucciarelli To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20051213145406.GF2188@rabbit> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="=_biodiesel.gaiahost.coop-30550-1134485635-0001-2" Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Subject: [LONG] vmstat: What I/O is blocked and how to fix it? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 13 Dec 2005 14:54:20 -0000 This is a MIME-formatted message. If you see this text it means that your E-mail software does not support MIME-formatted messages. --=_biodiesel.gaiahost.coop-30550-1134485635-0001-2 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline On two occasions recently, vmstat has showed me that a number of processes are blocked due to I/O. At the same time, the number of disk transactions per second reported is a small fraction of the disk's capability. I am thinking some kind of VM config will help, but based on what I have read, it is almost always best to let the default kernel behavior do its thing. Setup: Dual PIII 1.0 GHz (256MB L1 and L2 cache) 3GB RAM custom kernel (SMP + PF) 5.4-RELEASE one intel fxp0 network interface used (second unused) Case 1: (da0 36GB SCSI) The first case is simple: running spamd-setup to load the huge Composite Blacklist into spamd. The only other things running are sshd and spamd itself. When I run vmstat (vmstat -w 1 -c 10 output attached), it shows ten processes blocked due to I/O, 1 runnable and a total of four disk transactions during this particular ten-second interval. Accoring to postmark [1] da0 is capable of 250 transactions per second. Interrupts look fine (200 of the 300/sec is the clock, right?). No swapping. No network traffic to speak of. High CPU usage. Paging looks really high to me. I have plenty of RAM and swap--so why is it so high? Is there a kernel param I can tweak to improve performance? Note: While this was running, I tried running vmstat -m and got the kmem_map too small error. (I read the FAQ entry and haven't yet rebuilt the kernel using VM_KMEM_SIZE_MAX.) Should I make VM_KMEM_SIZE_MAX 400MB as mentioned in the FAQ? Any other kernel settings to switch from defaults when I build the kernel? Case 2: (mirror/gm0, da0 + da1 300GB SCSI) This case is more complex and more important. This box was heavily loaded, running SpamAssassin + ClamAv in one jail, Courier-MTA + MySql in another, and dspamd + pf in the jail host. It was processing about one incoming email per second, and had 20,000 entries in the spamd greylist and 4,000 in the whitelist. The black list was not loaded. Courier-authlib was using MySQL to figure out where to deliver the mail to for each of 20,000 virtual users. Courier-MTA was calling the ClamAV daemon via TCP/IP from a courier filter and calling SpamAssassin via TCP/IP from maildrop. Spamd (as in OpenBSD, not Apache) and courier were hitting the disk hard--I watched top in "m" mode [2] and over a five minute period these two apps had about pretty much 50% each of the WRITES. The only thing that jumps out at me is that when things finally do get written to disk, the context switches go really high. Is this a VM issue of some sort? The disk transactions per second are really low; this 300GB SCSI can do 730/sec according to postmark (well, this was testing on a single disk not with the RAID1 gmirror). 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pi po fr sr da0 da1 in sy cs us sy id 2 28 0 329548 2627280 5 0 0 0 5 0 12 12 539 246 678 0 5 94 0 30 0 331624 2627356 232 0 0 0 219 0 56 56 737 552 968 2 17 82 2 30 0 331724 2627304 300 0 0 0 246 0 2 2 402 676 518 1 6 93 1 29 0 337012 2626560 1654 0 0 0 1361 0 35 35 695 4538 1521 25 11 64 0 28 0 327388 2627956 96 0 0 0 429 0 12 12 464 1038 605 14 5 81 0 28 0 327388 2627956 5 0 0 0 5 0 2 2 473 191 526 0 4 96 2 28 0 329632 2627500 280 0 0 0 130 0 4 4 518 739 751 0 5 95 0 28 0 327388 2627916 877 0 0 0 934 0 24 24 695 3220 1214 21 10 70 0 28 0 327388 2627920 110 0 0 0 113 0 0 0 411 324 406 0 6 94 1 27 0 327388 2627920 0 0 0 0 4 0 2 2 404 128 387 0 4 96 2 26 0 325268 2628176 480 0 0 0 470 0 2 2 460 958 649 1 6 93 3 26 0 332712 2627008 934 0 0 0 641 0 19 19 831 10859 4034 16 13 71 --=_biodiesel.gaiahost.coop-30550-1134485635-0001-2-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 13 14:57:41 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0362716A422 for ; Tue, 13 Dec 2005 14:57:41 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from doublef-ctm@yandex.ru) Received: from annex.ru (mail.annex.ru [213.80.160.13]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id EA45343D45 for ; Tue, 13 Dec 2005 14:57:30 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from doublef-ctm@yandex.ru) Received: (qmail 28995 invoked from network); 13 Dec 2005 14:57:46 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO shark) (83.239.189.189) by -v with SMTP; 13 Dec 2005 14:57:46 -0000 Received: by shark (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 57CDE9DB23; Tue, 13 Dec 2005 17:57:18 +0300 (MSK) Date: Tue, 13 Dec 2005 17:57:18 +0300 From: Sergey Zaharchenko To: Eric Schuele Message-ID: <20051213145718.GB30661@shark.localdomain> Mail-Followup-To: Sergey Zaharchenko , Eric Schuele , FreeBSD Questions References: <439D9FA3.7030603@computer.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="KFztAG8eRSV9hGtP" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <439D9FA3.7030603@computer.org> X-Listening-To: Silence User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.11 Cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: grep'ping the ps output.... X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 13 Dec 2005 14:57:41 -0000 --KFztAG8eRSV9hGtP Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello Eric! Mon, Dec 12, 2005 at 10:04:51AM -0600 you wrote: > I was wondering if someone could explain why it is sometimes there and=20 > not other times. Sometimes the ps process manages to catch the system state when grep has not been started yet by the shell. Sometimes it doesn't. > And how I should correctly go about detecting if the=20 > process is running before I perform my action. You may use the -c flag of ps: -c Change the ``command'' column output to just contain the exe- cutable name, rather than the full command line. Like: df@shark:~> ps axc |grep init 1 ?? ILs 0:00,00 init --=20 DoubleF No virus detected in this message. Ehrm, wait a minute... /kernel: pid 56921 (antivirus), uid 32000: exited on signal 9 Oh yes, no virus:) --KFztAG8eRSV9hGtP Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.2 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFDnuFNwo7hT/9lVdwRAvuTAJ4hdVQxnhLc54OS23XFTYUg0ZxUnwCfcvmJ 1CgAdR2wCq4a2pi9GV40hmo= =TYWI -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --KFztAG8eRSV9hGtP-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 13 15:11:38 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2F64916A41F for ; Tue, 13 Dec 2005 15:11:38 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from fbsd_user@a1poweruser.com) Received: from mta13.adelphia.net (mta13.mail.adelphia.net [68.168.78.44]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7197343D53 for ; Tue, 13 Dec 2005 15:11:37 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from fbsd_user@a1poweruser.com) Received: from barbish ([69.172.31.117]) by mta13.adelphia.net (InterMail vM.6.01.05.02 201-2131-123-102-20050715) with SMTP id <20051213151134.TVRG26442.mta13.adelphia.net@barbish>; Tue, 13 Dec 2005 10:11:34 -0500 From: "fbsd_user" To: "Pietro Cerutti" , "Imran Imtiaz" , "FreeBSD" Date: Tue, 13 Dec 2005 10:11:33 -0500 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.6604 (9.0.2911.0) In-Reply-To: Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1409 Cc: Subject: RE: ftp problem X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: fbsd_user@a1poweruser.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 13 Dec 2005 15:11:38 -0000 Opening the high order ports is a security risk. This is a long standing problem with the FTP protocol. If you are going to have a FTP server on your FBSD box being accessible from the public internet, you should be using the built in FTP proxy in ipfilter firewall. The ftp proxy option only opens the single ftp data high order port number being used. This is much more sure than exposing all the high order ports. -----Original Message----- From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org [mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]On Behalf Of Pietro Cerutti Sent: Tuesday, December 13, 2005 9:09 AM To: Imran Imtiaz; FreeBSD Subject: Re: ftp problem On 12/13/05, Imran Imtiaz wrote: > they are comming on xl0 interface Then you should enable in/outbound traffic on your xl0 interface, for the ports from 49152 through 65535, used for the data-channel connection. -- Pietro Cerutti Beansidhe - SwiSS Death / Thrash Metal Windows: "Where do you want to go today?" Linux: "Where do you want to go tomorrow?" FreeBSD: "Are you guys coming or what?" _______________________________________________ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 13 15:21:51 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7DCAE16A41F for ; Tue, 13 Dec 2005 15:21:51 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from e.schuele@computer.org) Received: from rwcrmhc12.comcast.net (rwcrmhc13.comcast.net [204.127.198.39]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 255B543D4C for ; Tue, 13 Dec 2005 15:21:31 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from e.schuele@computer.org) Received: from [208.206.151.59] (host59.gtisd.com[208.206.151.59]) by comcast.net (rwcrmhc13) with ESMTP id <200512131521240150047gine>; Tue, 13 Dec 2005 15:21:25 +0000 Message-ID: <439EE6F3.2080202@computer.org> Date: Tue, 13 Dec 2005 09:21:23 -0600 From: Eric Schuele User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.7 (X11/20051204) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Sergey Zaharchenko References: <439D9FA3.7030603@computer.org> <20051213145718.GB30661@shark.localdomain> In-Reply-To: <20051213145718.GB30661@shark.localdomain> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: grep'ping the ps output.... X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 13 Dec 2005 15:21:51 -0000 Sergey Zaharchenko wrote: > Hello Eric! > > Mon, Dec 12, 2005 at 10:04:51AM -0600 you wrote: > > >>I was wondering if someone could explain why it is sometimes there and >>not other times. > > > Sometimes the ps process manages to catch the system state when grep has > not been started yet by the shell. Sometimes it doesn't. > > >>And how I should correctly go about detecting if the >>process is running before I perform my action. > > > You may use the -c flag of ps: > > -c Change the ``command'' column output to just contain the exe- > cutable name, rather than the full command line. > > Like: > > df@shark:~> ps axc |grep init > 1 ?? ILs 0:00,00 init > Yes... Of course. That's the solution I'm looking for. Good thing I read over that man page before I posted my msg... Or I could've embarrassed myself. :} Thanks. -- Regards, Eric From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 13 15:27:03 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C88FD16A41F for ; Tue, 13 Dec 2005 15:27:03 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from list-freebsd-2004@morbius.sent.com) Received: from out4.smtp.messagingengine.com (out4.smtp.messagingengine.com [66.111.4.28]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3846E43D46 for ; Tue, 13 Dec 2005 15:27:03 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from list-freebsd-2004@morbius.sent.com) Received: from frontend1.internal (mysql-sessions.internal [10.202.2.149]) by frontend1.messagingengine.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C8D4BD2415F for ; Tue, 13 Dec 2005 10:26:57 -0500 (EST) Received: from frontend2.messagingengine.com ([10.202.2.151]) by frontend1.internal (MEProxy); Tue, 13 Dec 2005 10:26:57 -0500 X-Sasl-enc: cva81abhZqkW6RGSBGI0FOlh0KwWeXx9WzOa10Ewnfm8 1134487617 Received: from gumby.localdomain (88-104-194-35.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com [88.104.194.35]) by frontend2.messagingengine.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 013055713C0 for ; Tue, 13 Dec 2005 10:26:56 -0500 (EST) From: RW To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Tue, 13 Dec 2005 15:26:50 +0000 User-Agent: KMail/1.8.3 References: <200512130029.jBD0T11I020665@clunix.cl.msu.edu> <9CF863F9FF55D6301DA0C9B3@[192.168.10.249]> <20051213103621.GA1237@flame.pc> In-Reply-To: <20051213103621.GA1237@flame.pc> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200512131526.54619.list-freebsd-2004@morbius.sent.com> Subject: Re: Slices X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 13 Dec 2005 15:27:03 -0000 On Tuesday 13 December 2005 10:36, Giorgos Keramidas wrote: > > OK. But then what would be ideal slice size for /, /var, /usr, /boot? There's no need for a boot partition; that's a Linux practice. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 13 15:29:45 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0C7A616A41F for ; Tue, 13 Dec 2005 15:29:45 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from FreeBSD@keyslapper.net) Received: from english-breakfast.cloud9.net (english-breakfast.cloud9.net [168.100.1.9]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B058843D88 for ; Tue, 13 Dec 2005 15:29:31 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from FreeBSD@keyslapper.net) Received: from english-breakfast.cloud9.net (localhost.cloud9.net [127.0.0.1]) by english-breakfast.cloud9.net (Postfix) with SMTP id EA7EC1A06E for ; Tue, 13 Dec 2005 10:29:28 -0500 (EST) Received: from keyslapper.net (250-119.customer.cloud9.net [168.100.250.119]) by english-breakfast.cloud9.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B593F1A07A for ; Tue, 13 Dec 2005 10:29:27 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by keyslapper.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 716D311898 for ; Tue, 13 Dec 2005 10:25:12 -0500 (EST) Received: from keyslapper.net ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (keyslapper.net [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 06476-09 for ; Tue, 13 Dec 2005 10:25:12 -0500 (EST) Received: from www.keyslapper.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by keyslapper.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1148E1159D for ; Tue, 13 Dec 2005 10:25:12 -0500 (EST) Received: from 38.112.155.126 (SquirrelMail authenticated user leblanc) by www.keyslapper.net with HTTP; Tue, 13 Dec 2005 10:25:12 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <13534.38.112.155.126.1134487512.squirrel@www.keyslapper.net> In-Reply-To: <20051212024427.GA27477@keyslapper.net> References: <20051212024427.GA27477@keyslapper.net> Date: Tue, 13 Dec 2005 10:25:12 -0500 (EST) From: "Louis J. LeBlanc" To: "FreeBSD Questions" User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.5 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at keyslapper.net Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-AntiVirus: Checked by Vexira Antivirus v1.5 Cc: Subject: Re: courier-authlib-0.58 dumps core at login X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 13 Dec 2005 15:29:45 -0000 On Sun, December 11, 2005 9:44 pm, Louis LeBlanc wrote: > Hey folks. > > Is it me, or is the courier-authlib port the absolute worst thing to > upgrade? It seems like *every* single time I try to upgrade this > port, I wind up with nobody being able to log into my courier > installation. Usually, it's a simple matter of a simple manual > restart of the daemon (it shuts down fine at deinstallation, but won't > start back up when portupgrade is used), sometimes it's a minor config > tweak. > > The thing is I keep forgetting this little issue for some stupid > reason, and this time, I've got the darn thing dumping core every time > someone tries to log in. > > The ports/security/courier-authlib-base/ port installs without any > problems, but it only builds and installs the libauthpam.so module. > This is fine, I guess, since I've removed all the other modules from > the authmodulelist config - that's the only one it ever used before > anyway. > > So, now I've gone through the whole fiasco of re-installing my entire > courier-* setup, verifying ALL the configs for authdaemonrc, imapd, > and imapd-ssl. Still, authdaemond dumps core anytime someone tries to > log in. > > Anyone else see anything wierd with courier-authlib-base-0.58? > > I have googled for it, and all I get are links to the various copies > of the ports/UPDATING file. Of course, it contains all the keywords I > can come up with, but none are relevant to the recent issue - and the > current UPDATING file has nothing about the latest courier-authlib > update. > > BTW, I'm the only one on the system that can get mail, because I'm > using mutt. My Thunderbird and Squirrelmail users cannot log into > either imap service (imapd with squirrelmail, imapd-ssl remotely). > So, this is a little annoying, and probably a bit urgent. > > I have the entire port configuration output if it's of any help. It > looks like the config process cycles through 12 times. > > Any help would be appreciated. Well, it's been a couple days with nothing but an offlist warning that MD= 5 hashes are not safe anymore. Of course, I already knew this, which is wh= y I explicitly mentioned that the hash had been changed (thanks all the sam= e IR). At this point I have to assume nobody else has seen this problem. = I finally decided to simply drop back to version 0.57 yesterday, so my othe= r users are back to getting email. I have to say, I'm a little annoyed with the regular problems upgrading the courier-auth packages, but I also recognize that it's not like I'm paying for the software, service or support. That said, I'm still more than happy with the courier server. I'll just have to remember to be mor= e careful with this upgrade in the future. Hopefully this message in the archives will help others avoid the same headaches until the auth package catches up with the server package. Thanks all. Lou --=20 Louis LeBlanc FreeBSD@keyslapper.net Fully Funded Hobbyist, KeySlapper Extrordinaire :=FE http://www.keyslapper.net =D4=BF=D4=AC From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 13 15:40:56 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D697C16A41F for ; Tue, 13 Dec 2005 15:40:56 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from pietro.cerutti@gmail.com) Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.202]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 38AF843D53 for ; Tue, 13 Dec 2005 15:40:55 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from pietro.cerutti@gmail.com) Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 69so147901wri for ; Tue, 13 Dec 2005 07:40:55 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=CFlkz6W36hixQDTE+m3zr4sIgANzPT2/3prmnXB4NSwo8FhF91BJ1CqyNs9APFMtadEDI8Wej0T45XrgfSME7StzIsig4oF2VK5UwlU95GG/Iak/yjphNT1yRCBEuZF1u/0hohJYDYS8tClHUPWBWHp2F5E8IOk2g5HSpZlq+Ug= Received: by 10.65.72.4 with SMTP id z4mr151846qbk; Tue, 13 Dec 2005 07:40:53 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.64.150.18 with HTTP; Tue, 13 Dec 2005 07:40:53 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: Date: Tue, 13 Dec 2005 16:40:53 +0100 From: Pietro Cerutti To: RW , FreeBSD In-Reply-To: <200512131526.54619.list-freebsd-2004@morbius.sent.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline References: <200512130029.jBD0T11I020665@clunix.cl.msu.edu> <9CF863F9FF55D6301DA0C9B3@192.168.10.249> <20051213103621.GA1237@flame.pc> <200512131526.54619.list-freebsd-2004@morbius.sent.com> Cc: Subject: Re: Slices X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 13 Dec 2005 15:40:57 -0000 On 12/13/05, RW wrote: > On Tuesday 13 December 2005 10:36, Giorgos Keramidas wrote: > > > > OK. But then what would be ideal slice size for /, /var, /usr, /boot? > > There's no need for a boot partition; that's a Linux practice. You're right, but I don't feel it as a bad practice... mounting it read-only could prevent from many problems, don't you think? -- Pietro Cerutti Beansidhe - SwiSS Death / Thrash Metal Windows: "Where do you want to go today?" Linux: "Where do you want to go tomorrow?" FreeBSD: "Are you guys coming or what?" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 13 15:49:33 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0989916A41F for ; Tue, 13 Dec 2005 15:49:33 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from gaynw@bristolsystems.com) Received: from fed1rmmtao10.cox.net (fed1rmmtao10.cox.net [68.230.241.29]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 72B0043D5F for ; Tue, 13 Dec 2005 15:49:32 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from gaynw@bristolsystems.com) Received: from workdog ([68.228.71.3]) by fed1rmmtao10.cox.net (InterMail vM.6.01.05.02 201-2131-123-102-20050715) with ESMTP id <20051213154837.ISRZ20441.fed1rmmtao10.cox.net@workdog>; Tue, 13 Dec 2005 10:48:37 -0500 From: "Gayn Winters" To: "'Ted Mittelstaedt'" , "'Winelfred G. Pasamba'" , "'Yance Kowara'" Date: Tue, 13 Dec 2005 07:49:16 -0800 Message-ID: <043901c5fffc$c610fa10$6501a8c0@workdog> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.4024 In-Reply-To: X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 Importance: Normal Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: RE: FreeBSD router two DSL connections X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 13 Dec 2005 15:49:33 -0000 > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org=20 > [mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org] On Behalf Of Ted=20 > Mittelstaedt >=20 > >-----Original Message----- > >From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > >[mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]On Behalf Of Winelfred G. > >Pasamba > >Sent: Monday, December 12, 2005 8:26 AM > >To: Yance Kowara > >Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > >Subject: Re: FreeBSD router two DSL connections > > > >i use pfSense (www.pfsense.com) > > > Sigh. >=20 > THIS IS NOT LOAD BALANCING PLEASE QUIT BEING SLOPPY WITH YOUR > NETWORKING TERMS!!!! >=20 > I refer you to the pfsense website itself: > http://faq.pfsense.org/index.php?sid=3D13525&lang=3Den&action=3Dartikel&c= at=3D6& id=3D18&artlang=3Den > "Load balancing is on per connection basis, not a bandwidth basis. All > packets in a given flow will go over only one link." > In other words, they are redefining the term "load balancing" into > something that is not understood by any previously accepted definition > of load balancing, so that people like you can think your getting > something for nothing. > Once more - FTP to a remote site with your dual DSL links. Copy > a FreeBSD ISO file to there. Watch as the upload speed IS NO FASTER > THAN ONE OF THE LINKS. > Ted I just looked at the pfsense site, and for an Internet Caf=E9, it looks promising. Two DSL lines to different ISP's does give a small amount of redundancy. Whether you use two routers or pfsense, you get some sort of "load sharing" but not "load balancing." A more appropriate performance test for an Internet Caf=E9 would be: Take a dozen PC's each to transfer a FreeBSD 6.0R ISO file from a dozen different mirror sites. Start them at the same time and see how long the all of the transfers take. =20 You can test one DSL connection at N kbps and two DSL connections both at N kbps. You'll undoubtedly see the effect of "load sharing" if the dozen PC's are more or less evenly divided over the two DSL lines. The redundancy isn't great, and you will pay for it. Namely, two N kbps connections will cost you more than one 2N connection. If you ran my benchmark on a 2N connection you might actually see an improvement over two N kbps connections due to to its inherent load balancing. In any case, with a single (or a small number) of users (Ted's benchmark test) you would definitely see an improvement over two N kbps connections. Now the question: is a faster AND cheaper 2N connection a better setup than two N kbps connections for our fabled Internet Caf=E9? =20 I'd personally go with the 2N connection. Almost all the time it would be better. Most large ISPs, for a little more money of course, will give you a faster response time on repairs. The ISP might even provide a bank of modems and you could implement multilink PPP as your backup. Regarding a combination of DSL and cable, that would be where pfsense may shine. This combo would definitely give a little better redundancy than two DSL connections to two ISP because the cable comes in to you building differently than the DSL/phone lines. A backhoe would have less chance of taking both out. Honestly, I still think a 2N connection would be better. -gayn Bristol Systems Inc. 714/532-6776 www.bristolsystems.com=20 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 13 15:52:50 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4C81F16A41F for ; Tue, 13 Dec 2005 15:52:50 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from dan.ross@hamiltontel.com) Received: from hamilton.net (mail.hamiltontel.com [208.6.238.18]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EA0E343D55 for ; Tue, 13 Dec 2005 15:52:49 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from dan.ross@hamiltontel.com) Received: from [208.6.238.24] (HELO [192.168.50.4]) by hamilton.net (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.1.8) with ESMTP id 195472027 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Tue, 13 Dec 2005 09:52:53 -0600 Message-ID: <439EEEC2.9060301@hamiltontel.com> Date: Tue, 13 Dec 2005 09:54:42 -0600 From: Dan Ross User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.2 (Windows/20050317) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: make buildworld failure X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 13 Dec 2005 15:52:50 -0000 I am trying to build a new kernel with smp. I started with make clean and got no errors. I then type make buildworld from /usr/src directory it runs for about an hour then I get: gzip -cn /usr/src/sbin/ip6fw/ip6fw.8 > ip6fw.8.gz ===> sbin/ipf make: don't know how to make bsd.README. Stop *** Error code 2 Stop in /usr/src/sbin. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/src. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/src. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/src. comm1# suggestions? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 13 15:53:10 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A483A16A41F for ; Tue, 13 Dec 2005 15:53:10 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from roberthuff@rcn.com) Received: from smtp02.mrf.mail.rcn.net (smtp02.mrf.mail.rcn.net [207.172.4.62]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1E52943D5F for ; Tue, 13 Dec 2005 15:53:09 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from roberthuff@rcn.com) Received: from 209-6-203-192.c3-0.smr-ubr1.sbo-smr.ma.cable.rcn.com (HELO jerusalem.litteratus.org.litteratus.org) ([209.6.203.192]) by smtp02.mrf.mail.rcn.net with ESMTP; 13 Dec 2005 10:53:08 -0500 X-IronPort-AV: i="3.99,248,1131339600"; d="scan'208"; a="183728653:sNHT68813084" From: Robert Huff MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <17310.61109.611660.269501@jerusalem.litteratus.org> Date: Tue, 13 Dec 2005 10:54:29 -0500 To: FreeBSD In-Reply-To: References: <200512130029.jBD0T11I020665@clunix.cl.msu.edu> <9CF863F9FF55D6301DA0C9B3@192.168.10.249> <20051213103621.GA1237@flame.pc> <200512131526.54619.list-freebsd-2004@morbius.sent.com> X-Mailer: VM 7.17 under 21.5 (beta23) "daikon" XEmacs Lucid Subject: Re: Slices X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 13 Dec 2005 15:53:10 -0000 Pietro Cerutti writes: > > There's no need for a boot partition; that's a Linux practice. > > You're right, but I don't feel it as a bad practice... mounting it > read-only could prevent from many problems, don't you think? Could, yes. In practice ... never had it happen to me. I've screwed up the boot code, but not in ways haveing a seperate partition would have stopped. Can't remember anyone else finding it useful either. I'm also curious as to whether having the boot code on a non-root filesystem even works. Robert Huff From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 13 16:05:02 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8885016A41F for ; Tue, 13 Dec 2005 16:05:02 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from pietro.cerutti@gmail.com) Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.199]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6649543D45 for ; Tue, 13 Dec 2005 16:05:01 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from pietro.cerutti@gmail.com) Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id i27so1639083wra for ; Tue, 13 Dec 2005 08:05:00 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=mLGxnsghCYgGNUJwTT5lBNX3GpW0j7E+mSRz8lyoVjq6jky77Uk64BjcVM0kUdeEQmGzR2Jg3BOxMN7V+k1AOiLFvEDcTmkCgtsx8CoBHA9Efzord2juRDVDA5GoBr2HzvFxSXHu5/7l8NL71Zx2QnxCNxydAVsA8g5pYJWKDzo= Received: by 10.65.253.3 with SMTP id f3mr773352qbs; Tue, 13 Dec 2005 08:04:58 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.64.150.18 with HTTP; Tue, 13 Dec 2005 08:04:58 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: Date: Tue, 13 Dec 2005 17:04:58 +0100 From: Pietro Cerutti To: FreeBSD In-Reply-To: <17310.61109.611660.269501@jerusalem.litteratus.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline References: <200512130029.jBD0T11I020665@clunix.cl.msu.edu> <9CF863F9FF55D6301DA0C9B3@192.168.10.249> <20051213103621.GA1237@flame.pc> <200512131526.54619.list-freebsd-2004@morbius.sent.com> <17310.61109.611660.269501@jerusalem.litteratus.org> Subject: Re: Slices X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 13 Dec 2005 16:05:02 -0000 On 12/13/05, Robert Huff wrote: > > Pietro Cerutti writes: > > > > There's no need for a boot partition; that's a Linux practice. > > > > You're right, but I don't feel it as a bad practice... mounting it > > read-only could prevent from many problems, don't you think? > > Could, yes. In practice ... never had it happen to me. I've > screwed up the boot code, but not in ways haveing a seperate > partition would have stopped. Can't remember anyone else finding it > useful either. Neither I... > I'm also curious as to whether having the boot code on a > non-root filesystem even works. > I too, but I won't be the one who will try it! > > Robert Huff > -- Pietro Cerutti Beansidhe - SwiSS Death / Thrash Metal Windows: "Where do you want to go today?" Linux: "Where do you want to go tomorrow?" FreeBSD: "Are you guys coming or what?" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 13 16:13:53 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9AC0E16A41F for ; Tue, 13 Dec 2005 16:13:53 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from david.robillard@gmail.com) Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.196]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AA33543D76 for ; Tue, 13 Dec 2005 16:13:48 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from david.robillard@gmail.com) Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id i4so156590wra for ; Tue, 13 Dec 2005 08:13:47 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; b=at00RH9zuRAaH+r9ReynzqN4cCzeT4DVNYyaNOjnvkun/ZLlXH79SAXiSL9MJboOBr29opN2Wj2ic3hn2sIp9bvP/xSjST0GlDWhR2bbgjcW9M3P4cBo/fJYIrIADbQTKHpkzQaxClp4ZGNRFC27Wt4zoibu5cIFNhiNpS623PA= Received: by 10.64.208.18 with SMTP id f18mr758809qbg; Tue, 13 Dec 2005 08:13:43 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.64.178.14 with HTTP; Tue, 13 Dec 2005 08:13:43 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <226ae0c60512130813i2b461f2v593ebc143ccaf396@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 13 Dec 2005 11:13:43 -0500 From: David Robillard To: psiinformatique@videotron.ca MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: I'm looking for school of freebsd in montreal. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 13 Dec 2005 16:13:53 -0000 Hi Eric, I live in Montr=E9al and I now run around 100 FreeBSD servers. They provide all sorts of services from DNS, SMTP, WWW, Proxy, FTP, Databases, Firewalls, you name it. If you can wait a month or two, I can provide you with basic FreeBSD training and then move on to more specialized setups as your FreeBSD skills improve. I've been working as a UNIX systems administrator for 7 years now and it took me to various corporations in located in Canada, France, Luxembourg and Switzerland. Let me know if you're interested, David P.S. En passant, je parle aussi Fran=E7ais. #I'm looking for school of freebsd in montreal and i dont find any. Im #not realy good in BSD, i start to use last year. I use as my main os #on my laptop to become a normal user, but more i get into it, more i #feel stupid about this new world.... #I'm realy impress by the work of your team. Im am interest to go school #to learn Completely (more as possible). Im am interest to do Server and #network security, then Programmation. #MY QUESTION Someone know if there is an school, in Montreal (canada), #that give cours about FreeBSD? #If not, i put all my money to bank and in couple of year I realy hope #to go Berkeley University (California) to learn more about it. #I hope at the same time to give the hand to Arnold Waterstachi #Tanx for your help #Eric Royal -- David Robillard david.robillard@gmail.com Montreal: +1 514 966 0122 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 13 16:18:25 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7EDEC16A41F for ; Tue, 13 Dec 2005 16:18:25 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from kdk@daleco.biz) Received: from ezekiel.daleco.biz (southernuniform.com [66.76.92.18]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1E3E243D46 for ; Tue, 13 Dec 2005 16:18:22 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from kdk@daleco.biz) Received: from [192.168.2.2] ([69.27.149.254]) by ezekiel.daleco.biz (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id jBDGHG8l043955; Tue, 13 Dec 2005 10:17:36 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from kdk@daleco.biz) Message-ID: <439EF402.9030101@daleco.biz> Date: Tue, 13 Dec 2005 10:17:06 -0600 From: Kevin Kinsey User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.7.12) Gecko/20051026 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Sasa Stupar References: <200512130029.jBD0T11I020665@clunix.cl.msu.edu> <9CF863F9FF55D6301DA0C9B3@[192.168.10.249]> In-Reply-To: <9CF863F9FF55D6301DA0C9B3@[192.168.10.249]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Slices X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 13 Dec 2005 16:18:25 -0000 Sasa Stupar wrote: > > > --On 12. december 2005 19:29 -0500 Jerry McAllister > wrote: > >>> >>> On Mon, 12 Dec 2005 12:40:40 -0600 >>> Kevin Kinsey wrote: >>> >>> > Sasa Stupar wrote: >>> > >>> > > You can also do the same as I did. I have just configured one slice >>> > > named / which >>> > > takes all the space on hdd and now I don't need to worry about >>> > > space shortage. >>> > >>> > >>> > OK then, but suppose we have some runaway process >> >> >> The main two reasons for dividing up your FreeBSD disk in to partitions >> rather than making just one big partition are to reduce the threat of >> runaway processes and to manage backup and restore sizes. >> >> Think those things out to meet your needs and resources. >> >> ////jerry >> > > OK. But then what would be ideal slice size for /, /var, /usr, /boot? > A word of probable caution (though I stand ready to be corrected): FreeBSD isn't like Linux in the fact that it expects /boot to be in / (the 'a' slice of whatever disk the bootmgr has been instructed to use)... so a seperate /boot will likely get you in trouble.... I don't *think* I'm wrong on this; search the list archives for a discussion of this within the last 60 days or so. If I *am* wrong, perhaps someone with more Unix-fu (well, spefically FBSD-fu) can give a more correct explanation of the funny idea in the back of my head.... Kevin Kinsey -- What is the sound of one hand clapping? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 13 16:26:27 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CBFAA16A41F for ; Tue, 13 Dec 2005 16:26:27 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: from kane.otenet.gr (kane.otenet.gr [195.170.0.95]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C064443D6D for ; Tue, 13 Dec 2005 16:26:22 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: from flame.pc (aris.bedc.ondsl.gr [62.103.39.226]) by kane.otenet.gr (8.13.4/8.13.4/Debian-8) with SMTP id jBDGQJ8l017830; Tue, 13 Dec 2005 18:26:19 +0200 Received: by flame.pc (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 4891211458; Tue, 13 Dec 2005 18:25:28 +0200 (EET) Date: Tue, 13 Dec 2005 18:25:28 +0200 From: Giorgos Keramidas To: Pietro Cerutti Message-ID: <20051213162528.GA5890@flame.pc> References: <200512130029.jBD0T11I020665@clunix.cl.msu.edu> <9CF863F9FF55D6301DA0C9B3@192.168.10.249> <20051213103621.GA1237@flame.pc> <200512131526.54619.list-freebsd-2004@morbius.sent.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, RW Subject: Re: Slices X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 13 Dec 2005 16:26:27 -0000 On 2005-12-13 16:40, Pietro Cerutti wrote: >On 12/13/05, RW wrote: >>On Tuesday 13 December 2005 10:36, Giorgos Keramidas wrote: >>>> OK. But then what would be ideal slice size for /, /var, /usr, /boot? >> >> There's no need for a boot partition; that's a Linux practice. > > You're right, but I don't feel it as a bad practice... mounting it > read-only could prevent from many problems, don't you think? It could also lead to other, more serious problems. See the archives of this mailing lists for reasons why it's discouraged in the FreeBSD world. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 13 16:36:15 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D057116A41F for ; Tue, 13 Dec 2005 16:36:15 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from root@pukruppa.de) Received: from moutng.kundenserver.de (moutng.kundenserver.de [212.227.126.177]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 49E1D43D5A for ; Tue, 13 Dec 2005 16:36:14 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from root@pukruppa.de) Received: from [213.146.114.24] (helo=reverse-213-146-114-24.cust.kamp-dsl.de) by mrelayeu.kundenserver.de (node=mrelayeu1) with ESMTP (Nemesis), id 0MKwpI-1EmD8O1S23-0007BH; Tue, 13 Dec 2005 17:36:12 +0100 Date: Tue, 13 Dec 2005 18:08:29 +0100 (CET) From: "P.U.Kruppa" X-X-Sender: root@www.pukruppa.net To: Mikael Backman In-Reply-To: <439EB2E6.3080904@telia.com> Message-ID: <20051213180241.I910@www.pukruppa.net> References: <439EB2E6.3080904@telia.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Provags-ID: kundenserver.de abuse@kundenserver.de login:2446dbdf8275641f979193ced594c629 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: port math/maxima broken.... X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 13 Dec 2005 16:36:15 -0000 On Tue, 13 Dec 2005, Mikael Backman wrote: > Hi, > Is there anybody who knows when/if this port will be fixed? > Is there any similar app in the ports tree? > /Mikael I think it isn't completely broken. In its Makefile you can comment the line # WITH_CMUCL= yes and uncomment WITH_GCL= yes This will build maxima with gnu common lisp instead of cmucl and should work. There also are the CAS's mupad (needs linux compat) yacas (no GUI, console only) gap (specialized on algebra and group theory stuff) Regards, Uli. > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > ********************************************* * Peter Ulrich Kruppa - Wuppertal - Germany * ********************************************* From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 13 16:40:01 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8C2C816A41F for ; Tue, 13 Dec 2005 16:40:01 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from "cyb."@gmx.net) Received: from mail.gmx.net (mail.gmx.de [213.165.64.21]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id A8BEA43D67 for ; Tue, 13 Dec 2005 16:40:00 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from "cyb."@gmx.net) Received: (qmail invoked by alias); 13 Dec 2005 16:39:59 -0000 Received: from pD952D451.dip0.t-ipconnect.de (EHLO p4-3200.local) [217.82.212.81] by mail.gmx.net (mp030) with SMTP; 13 Dec 2005 17:39:59 +0100 X-Authenticated: #4870692 From: Andreas Rudisch To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <439EEEC2.9060301@hamiltontel.com> References: <439EEEC2.9060301@hamiltontel.com> Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="=-TgClO8wzrO2QmhOaOW1L" Date: Tue, 13 Dec 2005 17:39:57 +0100 Message-Id: <1134491997.583.4.camel@p4-3200.local> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.4.2 FreeBSD GNOME Team Port X-Y-GMX-Trusted: 0 Subject: Re: make buildworld failure X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 13 Dec 2005 16:40:01 -0000 --=-TgClO8wzrO2QmhOaOW1L Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Tue, 2005-12-13 at 09:54 -0600, Dan Ross wrote: > I am trying to build a new kernel with smp. I started with make clean=20 > and got no errors. > I then type make buildworld from /usr/src directory > suggestions? 1. You do not need to recompile world if you only want to build a new kernel with smp support. 2. read: http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/makeworld.html especially chapter 20.4.10 and 20.4.16.6. Andreas --=20 GnuPG key : 0x2A573565 | http://cyb.websimplex.de/pubkey.asc Fingerprint: 925D 2089 0BF9 8DE5 9166 33BB F0FD CD37 2A57 3565 --=-TgClO8wzrO2QmhOaOW1L Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Description: This is a digitally signed message part -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.2 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQBDnvld8P3NNypXNWURAuC0AKC6HZ6ivoqrPH957WQ5VSA68wETuACgkDBK 7rVcgaH+1iZG92uMc1aAy/M= =Vi35 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --=-TgClO8wzrO2QmhOaOW1L-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 13 16:43:34 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DDB0416A41F for ; Tue, 13 Dec 2005 16:43:34 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from xfb52@dial.pipex.com) Received: from smtp-out3.blueyonder.co.uk (smtp-out3.blueyonder.co.uk [195.188.213.6]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 88E1C43D66 for ; Tue, 13 Dec 2005 16:43:16 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from xfb52@dial.pipex.com) Received: from [82.41.32.173] ([82.41.32.173]) by smtp-out3.blueyonder.co.uk with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.6713); Tue, 13 Dec 2005 16:43:31 +0000 Message-ID: <439EF9FA.4010801@dial.pipex.com> Date: Tue, 13 Dec 2005 16:42:34 +0000 From: Alex Zbyslaw User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-GB; rv:1.7.12) Gecko/20051106 X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Kevin Kinsey References: <200512130029.jBD0T11I020665@clunix.cl.msu.edu> <9CF863F9FF55D6301DA0C9B3@[192.168.10.249]> <439EF402.9030101@daleco.biz> In-Reply-To: <439EF402.9030101@daleco.biz> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-OriginalArrivalTime: 13 Dec 2005 16:43:31.0054 (UTC) FILETIME=[59A5B8E0:01C60004] Cc: Sasa Stupar , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Slices X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 13 Dec 2005 16:43:35 -0000 Kevin Kinsey wrote: >> OK. But then what would be ideal slice size for /, /var, /usr, /boot? >> > > A word of probable caution (though I stand ready to be corrected): > FreeBSD isn't like Linux in the fact that it expects /boot to be > in / (the 'a' slice of whatever disk the bootmgr has been instructed > to use)... so a seperate /boot will likely get you in trouble.... > You're not wrong. /boot directory should be on / partition. This has come up before but my attempts to find the discussion failed :-( Nitpickingly, that's the "a" BSD-partition of whatever slice (aka "fdisk partition") of whatever disk bootmgr has been instructed to use. There nothing (except a crap BIOS or an ancient machine) to stop you from booting any of the 4 slices (apart from logical ones IIUC). I've certainly had 3 different FreeBSD installations on a single disk before now. --Alex From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 13 16:44:57 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 389F516A423 for ; Tue, 13 Dec 2005 16:44:57 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from mark@gaiahost.coop) Received: from biodiesel.gaiahost.coop (biodiesel.gaiahost.coop [64.95.78.120]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 837CC43D5A for ; Tue, 13 Dec 2005 16:44:48 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from mark@gaiahost.coop) Received: from localhost (host-64-65-195-19.spr.choiceone.net [::ffff:64.65.195.19]) (AUTH: LOGIN mark@hubcapconsulting.com) by biodiesel.gaiahost.coop with esmtp; Tue, 13 Dec 2005 11:44:46 -0500 id 00340120.439EFA80.0000291B Received: by localhost (sSMTP sendmail emulation); Tue, 13 Dec 2005 11:44:57 -0500 Date: Tue, 13 Dec 2005 11:44:57 -0500 From: Mark Bucciarelli To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20051213164457.GI2188@rabbit> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <20051212024427.GA27477@keyslapper.net> <20051212031716.GA87116@keyslapper.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20051212031716.GA87116@keyslapper.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Subject: Re: courier-authlib-0.58 dumps core at login X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 13 Dec 2005 16:44:57 -0000 On Sun, Dec 11, 2005 at 10:17:16PM -0500, Louis LeBlanc wrote: > On 12/11/05 09:44 PM, Louis LeBlanc sat at the `puter and typed: These > passwords do match, but the debug log shows a rejection. I use MySql for users and recently noted that if maildir, uid and/or gid is not set properly the auth failed (even tho passwords matched). Not sure if this applies to authpamd. m From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 13 16:45:52 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5E30216A41F for ; Tue, 13 Dec 2005 16:45:52 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from gaynw@bristolsystems.com) Received: from fed1rmmtao10.cox.net (fed1rmmtao10.cox.net [68.230.241.29]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EAFDA43D5F for ; Tue, 13 Dec 2005 16:45:51 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from gaynw@bristolsystems.com) Received: from workdog ([68.228.71.3]) by fed1rmmtao10.cox.net (InterMail vM.6.01.05.02 201-2131-123-102-20050715) with ESMTP id <20051213164456.JYHR20441.fed1rmmtao10.cox.net@workdog>; Tue, 13 Dec 2005 11:44:56 -0500 From: "Gayn Winters" To: "'Kiffin Gish'" , Date: Tue, 13 Dec 2005 08:45:38 -0800 Message-ID: <044801c60004$a57400b0$6501a8c0@workdog> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.4024 In-Reply-To: <000201c5ffc5$ce8bdd40$2101a8c0@ZGISH> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 Importance: Normal Cc: Subject: RE: Lousy network performance ... X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 13 Dec 2005 16:45:52 -0000 > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > [mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org] On Behalf Of Kiffin Gish > Sent: Tuesday, December 13, 2005 1:16 AM > To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > Subject: Lousy network performance ... > > > I am having problems with a slow Internet DSL-connection, > especially while > surfing around the web. > > My service-provider claims that his network is just fine (of > course!) and > that the problem is because of all the 'so-called junk' I > have configured on > my home network on my side of the connection. > > On my side of the adsl-modem/router I have a router which is connected > directly to two Windows XP desktops, via a switch to two > FreeBSD machines > (webserver and fileserver) and via a wireless link my combo > FreeBSD/Windows > XP laptop. I have Samba running for file exchange bweteen the > Windows and > FreeBSD boxes and I have port 80 opened on the > adsl-moden/router to allow > access to a couple of web sites I am running. > > Is there some kind of way to prove my ISP is wrong by doing a > trace? What > tools are available? How can I demonstrate that the > bottleneck is not my > home network but the DSL-connection? Unplug your router, plug in a PC to the adsl-modem. Set the PC to your router's external IP address, DNS, and gateway. Test the speed. (If your ISP won't provide a speed test, Google for DSL speed test and pick an appropriate one.) If you got your ISP to visit you, this is what they would do. They won't (and shouldn't) believe anything else. Your web sites will be down for less than 5 minutes. -gayn Bristol Systems Inc. 714/532-6776 www.bristolsystems.com From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 13 16:47:09 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6E8C616A422 for ; Tue, 13 Dec 2005 16:47:09 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from root@pukruppa.de) Received: from moutng.kundenserver.de (moutng.kundenserver.de [212.227.126.187]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1F9E343D5F for ; Tue, 13 Dec 2005 16:47:07 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from root@pukruppa.de) Received: from [213.146.114.24] (helo=reverse-213-146-114-24.cust.kamp-dsl.de) by mrelayeu.kundenserver.de (node=mrelayeu0) with ESMTP (Nemesis), id 0MKwh2-1EmDIu3Oo0-00042H; Tue, 13 Dec 2005 17:47:05 +0100 Date: Tue, 13 Dec 2005 18:19:49 +0100 (CET) From: "P.U.Kruppa" X-X-Sender: root@www.pukruppa.net To: "P.U.Kruppa" In-Reply-To: <20051213180241.I910@www.pukruppa.net> Message-ID: <20051213181832.L910@www.pukruppa.net> References: <439EB2E6.3080904@telia.com> <20051213180241.I910@www.pukruppa.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Provags-ID: kundenserver.de abuse@kundenserver.de login:2446dbdf8275641f979193ced594c629 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, Mikael Backman Subject: Re: port math/maxima broken.... X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 13 Dec 2005 16:47:09 -0000 On Tue, 13 Dec 2005, P.U.Kruppa wrote: > On Tue, 13 Dec 2005, Mikael Backman wrote: > >> Hi, >> Is there anybody who knows when/if this port will be fixed? >> Is there any similar app in the ports tree? >> /Mikael > I think it isn't completely broken. In its Makefile you can comment the line > # WITH_CMUCL= yes > and uncomment > WITH_GCL= yes > > This will build maxima with gnu common lisp instead of cmucl and should work. and sorry I forgot: Of course you also have to comment the line # BROKEN= Does not build Uli. > > There also are the CAS's > mupad (needs linux compat) > yacas (no GUI, console only) > gap (specialized on algebra and group theory stuff) > > Regards, > > Uli. > >> _______________________________________________ >> freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list >> http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions >> To unsubscribe, send any mail to >> "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" >> > > > > ********************************************* > * Peter Ulrich Kruppa - Wuppertal - Germany * > ********************************************* > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > ********************************************* * Peter Ulrich Kruppa - Wuppertal - Germany * ********************************************* From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 13 17:02:13 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 393CA16A41F for ; Tue, 13 Dec 2005 17:02:13 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jeff.hamann@forestinformatics.com) Received: from stimpy.forestinformatics.com (cvo-cr1-200-239.peak.org [69.59.200.239]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D77F143D62 for ; Tue, 13 Dec 2005 17:02:11 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jeff.hamann@forestinformatics.com) Received: from rodan ([192.168.0.10]) by stimpy.forestinformatics.com (8.12.9/8.12.9) with SMTP id jBDH1lOn039740; Tue, 13 Dec 2005 09:01:47 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jeff.hamann@forestinformatics.com) Message-ID: <004101c60006$e7b60f70$0a00a8c0@rodan> From: "Jeff D. Hamann" To: Date: Tue, 13 Dec 2005 09:01:42 -0800 Organization: Forest Informatics, Inc. MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.64 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.64 (2004-01-11) on stimpy.forestinformatics.com Cc: damien.bergamini@free.fr Subject: getting iwi_firmware to work X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: "Jeff D. Hamann" List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 13 Dec 2005 17:02:13 -0000 I'm in the processing of putting together my new FreeBSD 6.0 (downloaded the iso image yesterday) laptop which has a Intel Pro/Wireless 2915ABG wireless card (as well as a firewire ethernet something?). The machine doesn't have a floppy drive and I haven't been able to build the drivers using the documentation at http://damien.bergamini.free.fr/ipw/ipw-freebsd.html and I think the links for the two freebsd ports located at http://damien.bergamini.free.fr/ipw/download.html are incorrect (maybe? both links point to the ipw-firmware). Does anyone have any instructions on how to get the wireless working without first having to use a third pccard since I can't use cvsup or download the ports as usual? I have a dual boot machine which I can read the primary ntfs partition (but not the fat32 partition -- very unhappy about that). ifconfig reports (and I typing to recreate this) fwe0: flags=108943 mtu 1500 options=8 inet6 fe80:f5ff:fe00:1c%fwe0 prefixlen 64 scopeid 0x1 ether 02:90:f5:00:00:1c ch 1 dma 0 lo: blah, blah, blah Is that the hardwire ethernet device? This is a new laptop (sager3880) and so far the machine running xp has been really nice. I'd like to be able to run the real deal now... Jeff. --- Jeff D. Hamann Forest Informatics, Inc. PO Box 1421 Corvallis, Oregon USA 97339-1421 541-754-1428 jeff.hamann@forestinformatics.com www.forestinformatics.com From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 13 17:07:49 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 541F216A41F for ; Tue, 13 Dec 2005 17:07:49 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from FreeBSD@keyslapper.net) Received: from russian-caravan.cloud9.net (russian-caravan.cloud9.net [168.100.1.4]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7549643D9D for ; Tue, 13 Dec 2005 17:07:29 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from FreeBSD@keyslapper.net) Received: from russian-caravan.cloud9.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by russian-caravan.cloud9.net (Postfix) with SMTP id A1BBD170FF for ; Tue, 13 Dec 2005 12:07:27 -0500 (EST) Received: from keyslapper.net (250-119.customer.cloud9.net [168.100.250.119]) by russian-caravan.cloud9.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D7C5516F55 for ; Tue, 13 Dec 2005 12:07:26 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by keyslapper.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6DBFB1178E for ; Tue, 13 Dec 2005 12:03:12 -0500 (EST) Received: from keyslapper.net ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (keyslapper.net [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 20921-03 for ; Tue, 13 Dec 2005 12:03:12 -0500 (EST) Received: from www.keyslapper.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by keyslapper.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2F98611656 for ; Tue, 13 Dec 2005 12:03:12 -0500 (EST) Received: from 38.112.155.126 (SquirrelMail authenticated user leblanc) by www.keyslapper.net with HTTP; Tue, 13 Dec 2005 12:03:12 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <2406.38.112.155.126.1134493392.squirrel@www.keyslapper.net> In-Reply-To: <20051213164457.GI2188@rabbit> References: <20051212024427.GA27477@keyslapper.net> <20051212031716.GA87116@keyslapper.net> <20051213164457.GI2188@rabbit> Date: Tue, 13 Dec 2005 12:03:12 -0500 (EST) From: "Louis J. LeBlanc" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.5 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at keyslapper.net Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-AntiVirus: Checked by Vexira Antivirus v1.5 Subject: Re: courier-authlib-0.58 dumps core at login X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 13 Dec 2005 17:07:49 -0000 On Tue, December 13, 2005 11:44 am, Mark Bucciarelli wrote: > On Sun, Dec 11, 2005 at 10:17:16PM -0500, Louis LeBlanc wrote: > >> On 12/11/05 09:44 PM, Louis LeBlanc sat at the `puter and typed: These >> passwords do match, but the debug log shows a rejection. > > I use MySql for users and recently noted that if maildir, uid and/or gi= d > is not set properly the auth failed (even tho passwords matched). > > Not sure if this applies to authpamd. > > m I wouldn't think so. My maildirs all have the correct ownership - although they are generally not group readable/writeable. Typical ~/.Maildir ownership is as follows: drwx------ 48 leblanc leblanc 1536 Dec 13 08:50 .Maildir/ The folder directories in ~/.Maildir are the same: drwx------ 3 leblanc leblanc 12288 Dec 13 09:51 cur/ drwx------ 2 leblanc leblanc 512 Dec 13 08:46 new/ drwx------ 2 leblanc leblanc 512 Dec 13 11:50 tmp/ There are, however, a couple files and a directory that are slightly less strict in their permissions - all courier specific files. Was that new behavior with 0.58? Your authdaemond didn't dump core in your experience, did it? Lou --=20 Louis LeBlanc FreeBSD@keyslapper.net Fully Funded Hobbyist, KeySlapper Extrordinaire :=FE http://www.keyslapper.net =D4=BF=D4=AC From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 13 17:08:58 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0AF3816A41F for ; Tue, 13 Dec 2005 17:08:58 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jeff.hamann@forestinformatics.com) Received: from stimpy.forestinformatics.com (cvo-cr1-200-239.peak.org [69.59.200.239]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 229BD43D90 for ; Tue, 13 Dec 2005 17:08:40 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jeff.hamann@forestinformatics.com) Received: from rodan ([192.168.0.10]) by stimpy.forestinformatics.com (8.12.9/8.12.9) with SMTP id jBDH8bOn039757 for ; Tue, 13 Dec 2005 09:08:37 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jeff.hamann@forestinformatics.com) Message-ID: <004701c60007$dc095cd0$0a00a8c0@rodan> From: "Jeff D. Hamann" To: Date: Tue, 13 Dec 2005 09:08:32 -0800 Organization: Forest Informatics, Inc. MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.64 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.64 (2004-01-11) on stimpy.forestinformatics.com Subject: can't mount msdos fs on freebsd6? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: "Jeff D. Hamann" List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 13 Dec 2005 17:08:58 -0000 Strange, but I can mount an ntfs filesystem (dual boot machine) but not the fat32 partition on a new freebsd 6.0 installation. The drive contains three paritions: /dev/ad0s1 -- 30GB NTFS (winxp) mounted on /winxp /dev/ad0s2 -- 30GB FAT32 (data to be accessed by both winxp and freebsd 6.0) mount point /data /dev/ad0s3 -- 30GB UFS (or whatever freebsd's file systems are) /ad0s3(blah,blah,blah) The results I get back from mount are: mothra# mount -t msdos /dev/ad0s2 /data mount_msdosfs: /dev/ad0s2: Invalid argument mothra# I don't get it. it's a fat32 partition (formatted using winxp -- default block size). Is there anything I'm missing here? It IS the second slice on the drive. Do I need to make the filesystem using FreeBSD? There must be some simple thing I'm not doing correctly, yes? Help? --- Jeff D. Hamann Forest Informatics, Inc. PO Box 1421 Corvallis, Oregon USA 97339-1421 541-754-1428 jeff.hamann@forestinformatics.com www.forestinformatics.com From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 13 17:20:08 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 76B4216A41F for ; Tue, 13 Dec 2005 17:20:08 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: from aiolos.otenet.gr (aiolos.otenet.gr [195.170.0.93]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3DC1743D5D for ; Tue, 13 Dec 2005 17:20:07 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: from flame.pc (aris.bedc.ondsl.gr [62.103.39.226]) by aiolos.otenet.gr (8.13.4/8.13.4/Debian-8) with SMTP id jBDHJtTx019094; Tue, 13 Dec 2005 19:19:55 +0200 Received: by flame.pc (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 1ADAF11453; Tue, 13 Dec 2005 19:19:03 +0200 (EET) Date: Tue, 13 Dec 2005 19:19:02 +0200 From: Giorgos Keramidas To: "Jeff D. Hamann" Message-ID: <20051213171902.GA6432@flame.pc> References: <004701c60007$dc095cd0$0a00a8c0@rodan> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <004701c60007$dc095cd0$0a00a8c0@rodan> Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: can't mount msdos fs on freebsd6? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 13 Dec 2005 17:20:08 -0000 On 2005-12-13 09:08, "Jeff D. Hamann" wrote: > Strange, but I can mount an ntfs filesystem (dual boot machine) but not the > fat32 partition on a new freebsd 6.0 installation. The drive contains three > paritions: > > /dev/ad0s1 -- 30GB NTFS (winxp) mounted on /winxp > /dev/ad0s2 -- 30GB FAT32 (data to be accessed by both winxp and freebsd > 6.0) mount point /data > /dev/ad0s3 -- 30GB UFS (or whatever freebsd's file systems are) > /ad0s3(blah,blah,blah) > > The results I get back from mount are: > > mothra# mount -t msdos /dev/ad0s2 /data > mount_msdosfs: /dev/ad0s2: Invalid argument > mothra# Try with -t msdosfs. There is no /sbin/mount_msdos program in my laptop's installation. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 13 17:21:27 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ADD2A16A41F for ; Tue, 13 Dec 2005 17:21:27 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from kdk@daleco.biz) Received: from ezekiel.daleco.biz (southernuniform.com [66.76.92.18]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 78BCC43D77 for ; Tue, 13 Dec 2005 17:21:21 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from kdk@daleco.biz) Received: from [192.168.2.2] ([69.27.149.254]) by ezekiel.daleco.biz (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id jBDHJJY5044275; Tue, 13 Dec 2005 11:19:45 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from kdk@daleco.biz) Message-ID: <439F028C.3010603@daleco.biz> Date: Tue, 13 Dec 2005 11:19:08 -0600 From: Kevin Kinsey User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.7.12) Gecko/20051026 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Alex Zbyslaw References: <200512130029.jBD0T11I020665@clunix.cl.msu.edu> <9CF863F9FF55D6301DA0C9B3@[192.168.10.249]> <439EF402.9030101@daleco.biz> <439EF9FA.4010801@dial.pipex.com> In-Reply-To: <439EF9FA.4010801@dial.pipex.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Sasa Stupar , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Slices X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 13 Dec 2005 17:21:27 -0000 Alex Zbyslaw wrote: > Kevin Kinsey wrote: > >> A word of probable caution (though I stand ready to be corrected): >> FreeBSD isn't like Linux in the fact that it expects /boot to be >> in / (the 'a' slice of whatever disk the bootmgr has been instructed >> to use)... so a seperate /boot will likely get you in trouble.... >> > You're not wrong. /boot directory should be on / partition. This has > come up before but my attempts to find the discussion failed :-( > > Nitpickingly, that's the "a" BSD-partition of whatever slice > (aka "fdisk partition") of whatever disk bootmgr has been instructed > to use. Thanks - I'm occasionally a tad lax with some terminology. As for the "attempts to find the discussion" ... read on... Giorgios Keramidas wrote: >See the archives of this mailing lists for reasons why it's discouraged >in the FreeBSD world. Seems I was a tad off in my earlier estimate of "within the last 60 days"... but Googling for " 'boot like linux' freebsd" produces the thread I was thinking of (the initial post of which is here): http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-questions/2005-March/079428.html Kevin Kinsey -- Take your Senator to lunch this week. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 13 17:26:19 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BCED216A41F for ; Tue, 13 Dec 2005 17:26:19 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from xfb52@dial.pipex.com) Received: from smtp-out1.blueyonder.co.uk (smtp-out1.blueyonder.co.uk [195.188.213.4]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E792743D46 for ; Tue, 13 Dec 2005 17:26:13 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from xfb52@dial.pipex.com) Received: from [82.41.32.173] ([82.41.32.173]) by smtp-out1.blueyonder.co.uk with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.6713); Tue, 13 Dec 2005 17:27:08 +0000 Message-ID: <439F0434.5090002@dial.pipex.com> Date: Tue, 13 Dec 2005 17:26:12 +0000 From: Alex Zbyslaw User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-GB; rv:1.7.12) Gecko/20051106 X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Jeff D. Hamann" References: <004701c60007$dc095cd0$0a00a8c0@rodan> In-Reply-To: <004701c60007$dc095cd0$0a00a8c0@rodan> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-OriginalArrivalTime: 13 Dec 2005 17:27:08.0484 (UTC) FILETIME=[71C1D840:01C6000A] Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: can't mount msdos fs on freebsd6? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 13 Dec 2005 17:26:19 -0000 Jeff D. Hamann wrote: > Strange, but I can mount an ntfs filesystem (dual boot machine) but > not the fat32 partition on a new freebsd 6.0 installation. The drive > contains three paritions: > > /dev/ad0s1 -- 30GB NTFS (winxp) mounted on /winxp > /dev/ad0s2 -- 30GB FAT32 (data to be accessed by both winxp and > freebsd 6.0) mount point /data > /dev/ad0s3 -- 30GB UFS (or whatever freebsd's file systems are) > /ad0s3(blah,blah,blah) > > The results I get back from mount are: > > mothra# mount -t msdos /dev/ad0s2 /data > mount_msdosfs: /dev/ad0s2: Invalid argument Are you sure its s2? What does fdisk -s /dev/ad0 show? I have a 20Gb FAT32 partition mounted right now - made with PartitionMagic rather than XP itself, but I wouldn't expect that to be the problem. --Alex From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 13 17:27:13 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 39E8416A41F for ; Tue, 13 Dec 2005 17:27:13 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from "cyb."@gmx.net) Received: from mail.gmx.net (mail.gmx.de [213.165.64.21]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 2E43143D64 for ; Tue, 13 Dec 2005 17:27:11 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from "cyb."@gmx.net) Received: (qmail invoked by alias); 13 Dec 2005 17:27:10 -0000 Received: from pD952D451.dip0.t-ipconnect.de (EHLO p4-3200.local) [217.82.212.81] by mail.gmx.net (mp038) with SMTP; 13 Dec 2005 18:27:10 +0100 X-Authenticated: #4870692 From: Andreas Rudisch To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <004701c60007$dc095cd0$0a00a8c0@rodan> References: <004701c60007$dc095cd0$0a00a8c0@rodan> Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="=-M6Wpgq1ZQasc927SVkX9" Date: Tue, 13 Dec 2005 18:27:09 +0100 Message-Id: <1134494829.25408.1.camel@p4-3200.local> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.4.2.1 FreeBSD GNOME Team Port X-Y-GMX-Trusted: 0 Subject: Re: can't mount msdos fs on freebsd6? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 13 Dec 2005 17:27:13 -0000 --=-M6Wpgq1ZQasc927SVkX9 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Tue, 2005-12-13 at 09:08 -0800, Jeff D. Hamann wrote: > The results I get back from mount are: >=20 > mothra# mount -t msdos /dev/ad0s2 /data > mount_msdosfs: /dev/ad0s2: Invalid argument > Help? #mount -t msdosfs /dev/ad0s2 /data or #mount_msdosfs /dev/ad0s2 /data --=20 GnuPG key : 0x2A573565 | http://cyb.websimplex.de/pubkey.asc Fingerprint: 925D 2089 0BF9 8DE5 9166 33BB F0FD CD37 2A57 3565 --=-M6Wpgq1ZQasc927SVkX9 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Description: This is a digitally signed message part -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.2 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQBDnwRt8P3NNypXNWURAl7zAJ9icbyk7dnmBG0ALMfpdFx40JJ3HACfdW5p TTxS8DrC65EXMndlFpiqvGg= =MQHs -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --=-M6Wpgq1ZQasc927SVkX9-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 13 17:33:06 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 07B2616A420 for ; Tue, 13 Dec 2005 17:33:06 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from xfb52@dial.pipex.com) Received: from smtp-out6.blueyonder.co.uk (smtp-out6.blueyonder.co.uk [195.188.213.9]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3413A43DB5 for ; Tue, 13 Dec 2005 17:32:26 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from xfb52@dial.pipex.com) Received: from [82.41.32.173] ([82.41.32.173]) by smtp-out6.blueyonder.co.uk with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.6713); Tue, 13 Dec 2005 17:33:19 +0000 Message-ID: <439F05A7.4030400@dial.pipex.com> Date: Tue, 13 Dec 2005 17:32:23 +0000 From: Alex Zbyslaw User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-GB; rv:1.7.12) Gecko/20051106 X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Kevin Kinsey References: <200512130029.jBD0T11I020665@clunix.cl.msu.edu> <9CF863F9FF55D6301DA0C9B3@[192.168.10.249]> <439EF402.9030101@daleco.biz> <439EF9FA.4010801@dial.pipex.com> <439F028C.3010603@daleco.biz> In-Reply-To: <439F028C.3010603@daleco.biz> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-OriginalArrivalTime: 13 Dec 2005 17:33:19.0608 (UTC) FILETIME=[4EF6DF80:01C6000B] Cc: freebsd-questions Subject: Re: Slices X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 13 Dec 2005 17:33:06 -0000 Kevin Kinsey wrote: > > Seems I was a tad off in my earlier estimate of "within the last 60 > days"... > but Googling for " 'boot like linux' freebsd" produces the thread I was > thinking of (the initial post of which is here): > > http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-questions/2005-March/079428.html > There was another one in July as well. :-) http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-questions/2005-July/092614.html --Alex From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 13 17:37:22 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B914016A41F for ; Tue, 13 Dec 2005 17:37:22 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from xfb52@dial.pipex.com) Received: from smtp-out2.blueyonder.co.uk (smtp-out2.blueyonder.co.uk [195.188.213.5]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D7C7C43D5C for ; Tue, 13 Dec 2005 17:37:21 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from xfb52@dial.pipex.com) Received: from [82.41.32.173] ([82.41.32.173]) by smtp-out2.blueyonder.co.uk with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.6713); Tue, 13 Dec 2005 17:23:43 +0000 Message-ID: <439F0367.1000001@dial.pipex.com> Date: Tue, 13 Dec 2005 17:22:47 +0000 From: Alex Zbyslaw User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-GB; rv:1.7.12) Gecko/20051106 X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Jeff D. Hamann" References: <004101c60006$e7b60f70$0a00a8c0@rodan> In-Reply-To: <004101c60006$e7b60f70$0a00a8c0@rodan> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-OriginalArrivalTime: 13 Dec 2005 17:23:43.0148 (UTC) FILETIME=[F75E0EC0:01C60009] Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: getting iwi_firmware to work X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 13 Dec 2005 17:37:22 -0000 Jeff D. Hamann wrote: > I have a dual boot machine which I can read the primary ntfs > partition (but not the fat32 partition -- very unhappy about that). Generically, there's no problem reading FAT32 partitions and it's the only writeable-and-shareable-with-windows filesystem type, so maybe you're not doing something right here. If it's going to help you to have such a partition then you'll have to provide some specifics (what did you do and what failed?). --Alex From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 13 17:47:12 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B18D916A422 for ; Tue, 13 Dec 2005 17:47:12 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from mback99@telia.com) Received: from pne-smtpout1-sn1.fre.skanova.net (pne-smtpout1-sn1.fre.skanova.net [81.228.11.98]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8453843DA4 for ; Tue, 13 Dec 2005 17:46:22 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from mback99@telia.com) Received: from [192.168.0.2] (217.211.47.223) by pne-smtpout1-sn1.fre.skanova.net (7.2.069.1) (authenticated as u41020144) id 439EE12E0000DF78 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Tue, 13 Dec 2005 18:46:11 +0100 Message-ID: <439F08D3.5020304@telia.com> Date: Tue, 13 Dec 2005 18:45:55 +0100 From: Mikael Backman User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.7.12) Gecko/20051108 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <439EB2E6.3080904@telia.com> <20051213180241.I910@www.pukruppa.net> <20051213181832.L910@www.pukruppa.net> In-Reply-To: <20051213181832.L910@www.pukruppa.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: port math/maxima broken.... X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 13 Dec 2005 17:47:12 -0000 P.U.Kruppa wrote: > On Tue, 13 Dec 2005, P.U.Kruppa wrote: > >> On Tue, 13 Dec 2005, Mikael Backman wrote: >> >>> Hi, >>> Is there anybody who knows when/if this port will be fixed? >>> Is there any similar app in the ports tree? >>> /Mikael >> >> I think it isn't completely broken. In its Makefile you can comment >> the line >> # WITH_CMUCL= yes >> and uncomment >> WITH_GCL= yes >> >> This will build maxima with gnu common lisp instead of cmucl and >> should work. > > and sorry I forgot: Of course you also have to comment the line > # BROKEN= Does not build > > Uli. > > >> >> There also are the CAS's >> mupad (needs linux compat) >> yacas (no GUI, console only) >> gap (specialized on algebra and group theory stuff) >> >> Regards, >> >> Uli. >> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list >>> http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions >>> To unsubscribe, send any mail to >>> "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" >>> >> >> >> >> ********************************************* >> * Peter Ulrich Kruppa - Wuppertal - Germany * >> ********************************************* >> _______________________________________________ >> freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list >> http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions >> To unsubscribe, send any mail to >> "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" >> > > > > ********************************************* > * Peter Ulrich Kruppa - Wuppertal - Germany * > ********************************************* > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > Hello! Thank you for your very helpfull answer. :) /Mikael From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 13 17:47:14 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8886E16A423 for ; Tue, 13 Dec 2005 17:47:14 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jon.drews@gmail.com) Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.198]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 83CA143DE7 for ; Tue, 13 Dec 2005 17:46:54 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jon.drews@gmail.com) Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 8so1700150nzo for ; Tue, 13 Dec 2005 09:46:41 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=sSIXifEzgrGywgmj1YWudDtnPOrVPoVyhWr4rlAfK5+qj9zOTfdgJGZtNk6fEjlxUxcEGbfvwM65YV9vzKD3TVPX23D4N3NuQ+QtB/6SckaiRKmxFfzWJOoxcqcp2RriqZamTJyJ2ztrWkd1VxzWLxQThcRC19KpeexnlH6Ds8g= Received: by 10.36.178.6 with SMTP id a6mr7541149nzf; Tue, 13 Dec 2005 09:46:41 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.36.24.15 with HTTP; Tue, 13 Dec 2005 09:46:40 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <8cb27cbf0512130946i4cc970fem37db022bd9db7956@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 13 Dec 2005 10:46:40 -0700 From: Jon Drews To: freebsd-questions In-Reply-To: <1134440021.1485.13.camel@sutdypc> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline References: <1134440021.1485.13.camel@sutdypc> Subject: Re: I'm looking for school of freebsd in montreal X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 13 Dec 2005 17:47:14 -0000 On 12/12/05, psiinformatique wrote: > #I'm looking for school of freebsd in montreal and i dont find any. Im > #not realy good in BSD, i start to use last year. I use as my main os > #on my laptop to become a normal user, but more i get into it, There is Marketbridge Technologies in Ottawa. They offer a FreeBSD Boot Cam= p: http://www.marketbridge.com/courses_freebsd.php >From the website: * Learn to install FreeBSD * Learn to properly administer FreeBSD * Learn to properly lock down your FreeBSD system * Learn to deal properly with files and filesystems -- Kind regards, Jonathan From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 13 18:20:43 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6BB5D16A422 for ; Tue, 13 Dec 2005 18:20:43 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from cezar@arax.md) Received: from mail.arax.md (mail.arax.md [217.26.160.44]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A607943D7E for ; Tue, 13 Dec 2005 18:19:52 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from cezar@arax.md) Received: from [87.248.173.29] (helo=CAESAR) by mail.arax.md with esmtpa (Exim 4.43 (FreeBSD)) id 1EmEkm-0000KZ-60 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Tue, 13 Dec 2005 20:19:56 +0200 Date: Tue, 13 Dec 2005 20:19:32 +0200 From: Cezar Fistik X-Mailer: The Bat! (v3.0.1.33) Professional X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <493047914.20051213201932@arax.md> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <439EDF2D.2050701@mykitchentable.net> References: <439EDF2D.2050701@mykitchentable.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re[2]: Polling For 100 mbps Connections? (Was Re: Freebsd Theme Song) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Cezar Fistik List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 13 Dec 2005 18:20:43 -0000 Hello, Just a remark. I'm using an "Intel PRO/1000 MT Dual Port Gigabit Copper CAT5 Server PCI express Adapter" in a box serving as router. Pumping 150Mbps through it with 99% idle CPU and 1% interrupts, polling enabled. It's a litle bit expensive, but it does its job perfectly. -- Best regards, Cezar mailto:cezar@arax.md From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 13 18:46:23 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B3CFB16A41F for ; Tue, 13 Dec 2005 18:46:23 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from danial_thom@yahoo.com) Received: from web33314.mail.mud.yahoo.com (web33314.mail.mud.yahoo.com [68.142.206.129]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 237BE43D58 for ; Tue, 13 Dec 2005 18:46:23 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from danial_thom@yahoo.com) Received: (qmail 19322 invoked by uid 60001); 13 Dec 2005 18:46:22 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:Received:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=YWnPAb/KuZgP9jew8pM/LWp495FuWqcWTcVmvAU+OwybZdG7J9qRWEPX960vpqaNzZUjGFfkurx7JHSSirsNEpVDqS2a6+6QrCMuBhHqnMz34mZ6MQ9pN8rLiNfAZrWFPxlm9V7LF/pHsWhegJchMhBX96EuA7tIPX0nAcGW+lg= ; Message-ID: <20051213184622.19320.qmail@web33314.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Received: from [24.46.186.215] by web33314.mail.mud.yahoo.com via HTTP; Tue, 13 Dec 2005 10:46:22 PST Date: Tue, 13 Dec 2005 10:46:22 -0800 (PST) From: Danial Thom To: Ted Mittelstaedt , Drew Tomlinson In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Cc: Michael Vince , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, Kris Kennaway Subject: RE: Polling For 100 mbps Connections? (Was Re: Freebsd Theme Song) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: danial_thom@yahoo.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 13 Dec 2005 18:46:23 -0000 --- Ted Mittelstaedt wrote: > > > >-----Original Message----- > >From: Danial Thom > [mailto:danial_thom@yahoo.com] > >Sent: Monday, December 12, 2005 1:35 PM > >To: Drew Tomlinson; Ted Mittelstaedt > >Cc: Michael Vince; danial_thom@yahoo.com; > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; > >Kris Kennaway > >Subject: Re: Polling For 100 mbps Connections? > (Was Re: Freebsd Theme > >Song) > > > > > > > > > >--- Drew Tomlinson > >wrote: > > > >> On 12/12/2005 8:13 AM Ted Mittelstaedt > wrote: > >> > > > >Danial is claiming the slowness is in the > main > > >ram section of > > >things, not in the ethernet driver code. > > >I don't think I'm claiming that at all. > > Oh, really, do tell then: > > >The > >slowness is in the latency and inefficiencies > of > >the scheduler and whatever other kernel > "stuff" > >(locking, general overheads). > > Which runs in main ram... > > >The entire point of > >the tests are that the managing of the packets > is > >a constant, in that its the same hardware and > >mostly the same code. > > What I said... > > >Now I suppose its possible > >that the em driver could just be slower in 5.4 > >and 6.0, but the code is fundamentally the > same, > >so it should be a constant. So since the > >processing of the packets is a constant, then > if > >you can process less packets on the same > machine > >the overhead of the OS must be the culprit. > > And, where again does the OS do it's > processing... > > >It > >could be the code, > > Well, if it's not, then your explanation and > everything > you have said up to this point sure strongly > implies it. > > What's wrong Danial, now that you have actually > had to > think about it, now realizing you have some > holes in > your bitching? Scared that I'm about ready to > start > punching holes in your flimsy inferences? > Not really, because its still a FreeBSD release, so whether its the driver or the scheduler or the code generated by the compiler, it still substantially worse than FreeBSD 4.x. And MP is SLOWER than UP for many functions. So specifically WHAT it is doesn't change my claim the FreeBSD 5.x and 6.x suck, at least relative to what you started with. If you take something and make it worse, and seem to have no ability to figure out WHY, then you're incompetent. Its as simple as that. I have posted a reasonable test and results, and there are countless complaints about performance. I think the fact that every time someone complains Robert Watson tells them to "wait for 6.0, or wait for 7.0" is a pretty good indication that things aren't what the Teds and Krises claim. DT __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 13 18:49:09 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8CC2F16A41F for ; Tue, 13 Dec 2005 18:49:09 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from tino.boss.1@student.unibe.ch) Received: from mailhub03.unibe.ch (mailhub03.unibe.ch [130.92.9.70]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 100C543D5D for ; Tue, 13 Dec 2005 18:49:08 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from tino.boss.1@student.unibe.ch) Received: from localhost (scanhub02-eth0.unibe.ch [130.92.254.66]) by mailhub03.unibe.ch (Postfix) with ESMTP id 23ECC24417; Tue, 13 Dec 2005 19:49:07 +0100 (CET) Received: from mailhub03.unibe.ch ([130.92.9.70]) by localhost (scanhub02.unibe.ch [130.92.254.66]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 14304-07-50; Tue, 13 Dec 2005 19:49:04 +0100 (CET) Received: from ubecx01 (ubecx01.unibe.ch [130.92.6.40]) by mailhub03.unibe.ch (Postfix) with ESMTP id F35A324448; Tue, 13 Dec 2005 19:49:04 +0100 (CET) Received: from [130.92.134.86] (dcb-leum2.unibe.ch [130.92.134.86]) by ubecx01.unibe.ch (PMDF V5.2-32 #42481) with ESMTP id <0IRG00DLU9LSNM@ubecx01.unibe.ch>; Tue, 13 Dec 2005 19:49:04 +0100 (MET) Date: Tue, 13 Dec 2005 19:49:04 +0100 From: Tino Boss In-reply-to: <004701c60007$dc095cd0$0a00a8c0@rodan> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-id: <439F17A0.3090307@student.unibe.ch> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (Windows/20041206) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en References: <004701c60007$dc095cd0$0a00a8c0@rodan> X-Virus-checked: by University of Berne Cc: "Jeff D. Hamann" Subject: Re: can't mount msdos fs on freebsd6? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 13 Dec 2005 18:49:09 -0000 Jeff D. Hamann wrote: > mothra# mount -t msdos /dev/ad0s2 /data > mount_msdosfs: /dev/ad0s2: Invalid argument I remember having had a similar problem and it was just a that it was an extended partition and somehow it was not displayed with the correct number in some utility. If that's your case you might just need another device-name. I think numbering for extended partitions starts at 5 (eg. ad0s5). regards Tino > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 13 18:52:40 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D625916A41F for ; Tue, 13 Dec 2005 18:52:40 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from darren@nighttide.net) Received: from olmec.nighttide.net (jasper.nighttide.net [207.5.141.146]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2EE8043D98 for ; Tue, 13 Dec 2005 18:52:30 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from darren@nighttide.net) Received: from olmec.nighttide.net (darren@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by olmec.nighttide.net (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id jBDIqUVx059380 for ; Tue, 13 Dec 2005 13:52:30 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from darren@nighttide.net) Received: from localhost (darren@localhost) by olmec.nighttide.net (8.13.4/8.13.4/Submit) with ESMTP id jBDIqT3h059377 for ; Tue, 13 Dec 2005 13:52:30 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from darren@nighttide.net) X-Authentication-Warning: olmec.nighttide.net: darren owned process doing -bs Date: Tue, 13 Dec 2005 13:52:29 -0500 (EST) From: Darren Henderson To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20051213130544.H59008@olmec> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Subject: HP-UX NFS client X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 13 Dec 2005 18:52:41 -0000 synopsis: freebsd NFS server, HP-UX NFS client. Client succeeds if it uses automount to mount the volumes but fails if a manual mount is used despite options. question: anyone have experience in a similar enviroment that can point me toward a solution? We use HP's Data Protector as an enterprise backup solution (formerly known as omniback). It only supports NFS backups of FreeBSD systems. I'm having an issue manually mounting volumes from a FreeBSD 6.0-STABLE (using source from 12/7) system on an HP-UX 11i (11.11) system. If I automount the volumes everything works fine and the HP system is able to hook up as expected and it can access the desired files. However, if I try to manually mount the volumes I get: nfs mount: getaddr_nfs: monhegan: NFS service not responding(retry delay=5s) nfs mount: retry: retrying(1) for: /monhegan after 5 seconds nfs mount: retry: giving up on: /monhegan I've tried forcing the version to 2 (as well as 1) - still returns the same thing, no apparent change in behavior. I've made sure the HP box's nsswitch.conf is pointing to files for everything - still returns the same thing. Numerous other combinations of options have been tried with no luck - I can not duplicate automounts success. So... automount (not autofs) on the HP box works differently then a manual mount in some undefined way or at least uses a set of options for the mount that I've not attempted. "nfsstat -m" on an HP-UX system, with a manually mounted NFS filesystem will display the options and flags used to do the mount. It displays nothing for automounted filesystems. I'm not aware of anything on the FreeBSD system that would tell me what options an NFS client used to connect. Watching with tcpdump on the freebsd system I see that both the manual and automount attempts make connections to the box, but they do look different: manual mount: PORTMAP V2 GETPORT in PORTMAP V2 GETPORT Reply out MOUNT V3 NULL Call in MOUNT V3 NULL Reply out MOUNT V3 MNT Call in MOUNT V3 MNT Reply : : auto mount: NFS V2 NULL Call in NFS V2 NULL Reply out PORTMAP V2 GETPORT Call in PORTMAP V2 GETPORT Reply out TCP port 712 in TCP port 712 out MOUNT V1 EXPORT Call in MOUNT V1 EXPORT Reply out : : Unfortunately, we've had little luck using automounted volumes with Data Protector so we wish to manually mount the volumes in the pre-backup script an then umount them in the post-backup script. Has anyone manually mounted a FreeBSD volume from an HP-UX client? Were there any special requirements? -Darren ______________________________________________________________________ Darren Henderson darren@nighttide.net Help fight junk e-mail, visit http://www.cauce.org/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 13 19:07:22 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 30B5616A41F for ; Tue, 13 Dec 2005 19:07:22 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from danial_thom@yahoo.com) Received: from web33313.mail.mud.yahoo.com (web33313.mail.mud.yahoo.com [68.142.206.128]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 80C4843D82 for ; Tue, 13 Dec 2005 19:07:12 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from danial_thom@yahoo.com) Received: (qmail 25143 invoked by uid 60001); 13 Dec 2005 19:07:11 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:Received:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=1msIKfbZipQ7Aujz+bA2iwZoBvHQ6wUkkiHoWlHXgsWvQsXn9lh1hziKAhGuu0uqxGYvcfNzpzpmiiJZLXeZIidoI1rX2Kl/E3yPvZaPpX4JHC7ujXta27f7D9QRjflPj1RXiVXbVw1lvewz1vve8Z/WQ1aDHSeuCFGDkQERs04= ; Message-ID: <20051213190711.25141.qmail@web33313.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Received: from [24.46.186.215] by web33313.mail.mud.yahoo.com via HTTP; Tue, 13 Dec 2005 11:07:11 PST Date: Tue, 13 Dec 2005 11:07:11 -0800 (PST) From: Danial Thom To: Drew Tomlinson In-Reply-To: <439EDF2D.2050701@mykitchentable.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Polling For 100 mbps Connections? (Was Re: Freebsd Theme Song) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: danial_thom@yahoo.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 13 Dec 2005 19:07:22 -0000 --- Drew Tomlinson wrote: > Ted Mittelstaedt wrote, On 12/13/2005 12:44 AM: > > > > > > >>-----Original Message----- > >>From: Drew Tomlinson > [mailto:drew@mykitchentable.net] > >>Sent: Monday, December 12, 2005 12:30 PM > >>To: Ted Mittelstaedt > >>Cc: Michael Vince; danial_thom@yahoo.com; > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; > >>Kris Kennaway > >>Subject: Polling For 100 mbps Connections? > (Was Re: Freebsd Theme Song) > >> > >> > >>On 12/12/2005 8:13 AM Ted Mittelstaedt wrote: > >> > >> > >> > >>>Michael, > >>> > >>> Fundamentally, here's the problem Danial is > claiming exists: > >>> > >>>it takes a certain amount of time to get the > packet clocked in > >>> > >>> > >>>from the network into the ethernet receiver. > This is hardware > >> > >> > >>>dependent and cannot be changed. > >>> > >>>It takes a certain amount of time to get the > packet out of > >>>the hardware in the ethernet card into main > ram, this also > >>>hardware dependent and cannot be changed. > (unless the device > >>>driver is terribly inefficient, which we > will assume it's not) > >>> > >>>Once in main ram, the information in the > packet has to go through > >>>a number of code statements. The more code > statements the > >>>longer the information in the packet is > sitting around in > >>>the FreeBSD system's memory. > >>> > >>>It then takes a certain amount of time to > get the information > >>>out of main memory into the other sending > ethernet nic's buffers, > >>> > >>>and it takes time to get it out of the > sending nic back to the > >>>wire. > >>> > >>>Danial is claiming the slowness is in the > main ram section of > >>>things, not in the ethernet driver code. > >>> > >>>polling makes the ethernet driver more > efficient at high data > >>>rates, but it does nothing for the speed of > processing within > >>>the TCPIP stack itself. At low data rates > polling is less > >>>efficient than the interrupt method. And > unless the nic driver > >>>is terribly inefficient to start with, the > time it adds to the > >>>packet path in the system is minor compared > to the time spent > >>>in the TCP/IP stack. > >>> > >>>Ted > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>Thanks for the explanation. So would polling > be beneficial or > >>detrimental for a 100 mbps Ethernet card? > >> > >> > > > >Yes, if you were running 100Mbt's of bandwidth > through it. > > > > > > I assume you mean "yes it's beneficial"? :) Thats just not true, or at least not globally. The right answer is: It depends on the hardware. Polling should NEVER be used for hardware that has built-in hardware interrupt throttling (such as fxp and em driver cards). polling has a LOT of overhead. Hardware hold offs give you the benefit of controlled interrupt reduction without adulterating your system with tons of extra clock interrupts. This has been discussed over and over, and still some of the people who are supposed to know about this have no clue whatsoever. polling is ONLY a POSSIBLE advantage is your hardware actually interrupts for every event. Good controllers do not. I don't know the specs of every card/chipset, but with intel cards you definitely do NOT want to use polling, as an example. Regardless of the hardware, if you see a substantial increase with performance its because the OS is broken and not because of the polling, particularly if you have a relatively low volume of traffic. The same number of cpu cycles are needed to process the packets whether you poll or not. As an example, changing the number of receive interrupts per second from 10,000 to 25000 on an em card (4.9 OS, which is known NOT to be broken) pushing 100Kpps yields about a 3% difference in cpu load (no noticable difference in performance). For an average load server doing less than 1K pps, on a modern processor the cpu load difference is not significant enough to make much noticable difference in performance. Of course anyone using a realtek or cheap controller on an expensive machine is just a plain fool; spend the extra relative pennies for a controller that actually works properly. I'm amazed at the number of idiots running MP machines with cheap ethernet controllers. Its like putting $25. tires on a porche. DT __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 13 19:08:45 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DD9B416A429 for ; Tue, 13 Dec 2005 19:08:44 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from danial_thom@yahoo.com) Received: from web33302.mail.mud.yahoo.com (web33302.mail.mud.yahoo.com [68.142.206.117]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 2335443D5E for ; Tue, 13 Dec 2005 19:08:26 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from danial_thom@yahoo.com) Received: (qmail 80188 invoked by uid 60001); 13 Dec 2005 19:08:25 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:Received:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=tMSeUYj0Ig3D5eOTB7mvI/7yKiXj9TcDXubu1vfOzSj04AKNLjPN/ONKsheCNLGtVhd3SLSyhmybNi7t0QA+Oj4gj1sdpk4u+1OcicaotzTI8SW7hQSYYtBMUcEuSwTHUaIVKaV0sKQlEpdBtx/4FISbMI/RqVma5UQbuBhknVs= ; Message-ID: <20051213190825.80186.qmail@web33302.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Received: from [24.46.186.215] by web33302.mail.mud.yahoo.com via HTTP; Tue, 13 Dec 2005 11:08:25 PST Date: Tue, 13 Dec 2005 11:08:25 -0800 (PST) From: Danial Thom To: Cezar Fistik , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <493047914.20051213201932@arax.md> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Cc: Subject: Re: Re[2]: Polling For 100 mbps Connections? (Was Re: Freebsd Theme Song) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: danial_thom@yahoo.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 13 Dec 2005 19:08:45 -0000 --- Cezar Fistik wrote: > Hello, > > Just a remark. I'm using an "Intel PRO/1000 MT > Dual Port Gigabit Copper > CAT5 Server PCI express Adapter" in a box > serving as router. Pumping 150Mbps > through it with 99% idle CPU and 1% interrupts, > polling enabled. It's > a litle bit expensive, but it does its job > perfectly. > If you read my last post about polling with intel cards, you're realize just how foolish your analysis is. Danial __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 13 19:13:04 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C66D516A41F for ; Tue, 13 Dec 2005 19:13:04 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from lists@webtent.net) Received: from columbus.webtent.org (static-70-110-70-42.tampfl.fios.verizon.net [70.110.70.42]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B8F8743D8B for ; Tue, 13 Dec 2005 19:12:59 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from lists@webtent.net) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by columbus.webtent.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 70E1CCFAB5 for ; Tue, 13 Dec 2005 14:12:58 -0500 (EST) From: Robert Fitzpatrick To: FreeBSD Content-Type: text/plain Date: Tue, 13 Dec 2005 14:12:57 -0500 Message-Id: <1134501177.13444.56.camel@columbus.webtent.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.2.1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Multiple CPUs X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: robert@webtent.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 13 Dec 2005 19:13:04 -0000 I guess this means my new server is only using one of my CPUs? esmtp# grep CPU /var/log/dmesg.today CPU: Intel(R) Xeon(TM) CPU 2.40GHz (2399.33-MHz 686-class CPU) Hyperthreading: 2 logical CPUs cpu0: on acpi0 Can someone point me to the best doc for enabling use of both CPUs on the FreeBSD 5.4 server? I assume the kernel needs built with options. -- Robert From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 13 19:29:47 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F180E16A41F for ; Tue, 13 Dec 2005 19:29:47 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from hakmi@rogers.com) Received: from smtp101.rog.mail.re2.yahoo.com (smtp101.rog.mail.re2.yahoo.com [206.190.36.79]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 9E46943D66 for ; Tue, 13 Dec 2005 19:29:46 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from hakmi@rogers.com) Received: (qmail 2234 invoked from network); 13 Dec 2005 19:25:22 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=rogers.com; h=Received:From:To:Subject:Date:X-Mailer:In-Reply-To:X-MimeOLE:Thread-Index; b=O5hbIxZMOPBR4Pn2sc3BD7I1kOUV1tjneEVe0QaFhl+RRKFt4q/aCauMpaxKSw2/UtTCDHLRGlToEjGNdb1QqUOBk/uJdjD0c5ps8XOCA7DQ5+w98UXBYY+NIkrLLqWAZOL2bI9w43ph7weyVknA0L4VQM5ySZQfZyBZDxVaNeo= ; Received: from unknown (HELO tamouh) (hakmi@rogers.com@70.27.160.99 with login) by smtp101.rog.mail.re2.yahoo.com with SMTP; 13 Dec 2005 19:25:22 -0000 From: "Tamouh H." To: "'FreeBSD'" Date: Tue, 13 Dec 2005 14:25:33 -0500 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook, Build 11.0.6353 In-Reply-To: <1134501177.13444.56.camel@columbus.webtent.org> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 Thread-Index: AcYAGUzX5QXCc7RoTCy7fApQCyiD4AAAX3WA Message-Id: <20051213192946.9E46943D66@mx1.FreeBSD.org> Subject: RE: Multiple CPUs X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 13 Dec 2005 19:29:48 -0000 > Can someone point me to the best doc for enabling use of both > CPUs on the FreeBSD 5.4 server? I assume the kernel needs > built with options. > > -- > Robert This is what you need in your Kernel: options SMP # ENABLE MULTI PROCESSOR device acpi # COMPILE FOR SMP OPTION Best, Tamouh From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 13 19:30:48 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0788916A41F for ; Tue, 13 Dec 2005 19:30:48 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from rsh.lists@comcast.net) Received: from sccrmhc14.comcast.net (sccrmhc14.comcast.net [204.127.202.59]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0DB2443D79 for ; Tue, 13 Dec 2005 19:30:42 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from rsh.lists@comcast.net) Received: from [192.168.1.11] (tardiss.hsd1.ma.comcast.net[66.30.82.93]) by comcast.net (sccrmhc14) with ESMTP id <2005121319245801400ajdj9e>; Tue, 13 Dec 2005 19:24:59 +0000 Message-ID: <439F1FCE.2090403@comcast.net> Date: Tue, 13 Dec 2005 14:23:58 -0500 From: Sean User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.7 (X11/20051207) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: robert@webtent.com References: <1134501177.13444.56.camel@columbus.webtent.org> In-Reply-To: <1134501177.13444.56.camel@columbus.webtent.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: FreeBSD Subject: Re: Multiple CPUs X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: rsh.lists@comcast.net List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 13 Dec 2005 19:30:48 -0000 Robert Fitzpatrick wrote: > I guess this means my new server is only using one of my CPUs? > > esmtp# grep CPU /var/log/dmesg.today > CPU: Intel(R) Xeon(TM) CPU 2.40GHz (2399.33-MHz 686-class CPU) > Hyperthreading: 2 logical CPUs > cpu0: on acpi0 > > Can someone point me to the best doc for enabling use of both CPUs on > the FreeBSD 5.4 server? I assume the kernel needs built with options. > > -- > Robert > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > You need options SMP # multi processor support in your kernel config when you build it. Check here as a start. http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/kernelconfig.html Sean From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 13 19:31:03 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B95D016A42B for ; Tue, 13 Dec 2005 19:31:03 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from mailing-lists@msdi.ca) Received: from mail02.msdihosting.net (9.67-18-64.networks.msdihosting.net [64.18.67.9]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C716343D45 for ; Tue, 13 Dec 2005 19:30:58 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from mailing-lists@msdi.ca) Received: from ian.msdi.ca ([24.201.183.241]) by mail02.msdihosting.net ((iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.21 (built Sep 8 2003))) with SMTP id FRQ06958; Tue, 13 Dec 2005 14:30:51 -0500 Message-Id: <7.0.0.16.2.20051213142906.056a73d0@Msdi.ca> X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 7.0.0.16 Date: Tue, 13 Dec 2005 14:30:45 -0500 To: robert@webtent.com,FreeBSD From: Ian Lord In-Reply-To: <1134501177.13444.56.camel@columbus.webtent.org> References: <1134501177.13444.56.camel@columbus.webtent.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-DEBUG: 1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: Subject: Re: Multiple CPUs X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 13 Dec 2005 19:31:03 -0000 At 14:12 2005-12-13, Robert Fitzpatrick wrote: >I guess this means my new server is only using one of my CPUs? > >esmtp# grep CPU /var/log/dmesg.today >CPU: Intel(R) Xeon(TM) CPU 2.40GHz (2399.33-MHz 686-class CPU) > Hyperthreading: 2 logical CPUs >cpu0: on acpi0 > >Can someone point me to the best doc for enabling use of both CPUs on >the FreeBSD 5.4 server? I assume the kernel needs built with options. > >-- >Robert > >_______________________________________________ >freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list >http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions >To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" Just add options SMP to your kernel configuration file and rebuild your kernel. You should go though all the configurations at the same time to do some optimizations... You can find the infos in the handbook on how to compile your kernel: http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/kernelconfig.html From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 13 19:43:38 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8404316A41F for ; Tue, 13 Dec 2005 19:43:38 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jayesh.freebsdlist@gmail.com) Received: from xproxy.gmail.com (xproxy.gmail.com [66.249.82.207]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 365A843D58 for ; Tue, 13 Dec 2005 19:43:37 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jayesh.freebsdlist@gmail.com) Received: by xproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id t12so1297253wxc for ; Tue, 13 Dec 2005 11:43:36 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=Z8pTz5vRB1ZsENnB4fzjQjHUia2ADLNAVxfliZz1uk0kScssMeeK5hcywwEF3cfgwTWWaGuXGKOnrVNFK8hADo0r9aAz8Z51JrSi6jAM/N1D8XCLG3eVmKH/fh0Ho/Sdqa7dkc5uIFy3m7qeQU+deQfDwUSKzjM0hckJeBZt8Do= Received: by 10.70.26.15 with SMTP id 15mr5211011wxz; Tue, 13 Dec 2005 11:43:36 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.70.7.2 with HTTP; Tue, 13 Dec 2005 11:43:36 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: Date: Wed, 14 Dec 2005 01:13:36 +0530 From: Jayesh Jayan To: Odhiambo Washington , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <20051213053035.GI20962@ns2.wananchi.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <20051213053035.GI20962@ns2.wananchi.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: Subject: Re: May be a question repeated X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 13 Dec 2005 19:43:38 -0000 Hi Wash, Thank you for your mail. I tried the option and it worked fine. On 12/13/05, Odhiambo Washington wrote: > > * On 13/12/05 04:15 +0530, Jayesh Jayan wrote: > > Hi, > > > > I have a server which runs Apache/1.3.33 (Unix) and exim 4.53-0 on a > FreeBSD > > 5.4. > > > > I wanted to upgrade exim to 4.60 > > > > so i did the below steps > > > > 1 ) cd /usr/ports/mail/exim > > 2 ) make clean > > 3 ) make > > > > at this step the make stops saying openssl already installed. I have on > the > > server OpenSSL 0.9.7e and exim is trying to upgrade even open ssl to th= e > > latest. This may break http and other services running on the server. > > > > Error message is as below > > > > > *************************************************************************= ***************************************** > > =3D=3D=3D> Installing for openssl-0.9.8a > > =3D=3D=3D> Generating temporary packing list > > =3D=3D=3D> Checking if security/openssl already installed > > pkg_info: package bsdpan-CPAN-1.80 has no origin recorded > > pkg_info: package bsdpan-Filesys-Statvfs_Statfs_Df-0.78 has no origin > > recorded > > pkg_info: package bsdpan-GDGraph-1.43 has no origin recorded > > pkg_info: package bsdpan-GDTextUtil-0.86 has no origin recorded > > pkg_info: package bsdpan-IO-Interactive-undef has no origin recorded > > pkg_info: package bsdpan-MailTools-1.67 has no origin recorded > > pkg_info: package bsdpan-Net_SSLeay.pm-1.25 has no origin recorded > > pkg_info: package bsdpan-ShadowHash-0.07 has no origin recorded > > pkg_info: package bsdpan-Term-ReadLine-Perl-1.0203 has no origin > recorded > > pkg_info: package bsdpan-TermReadKey-2.30 has no origin recorded > > pkg_info: package bsdpan-Tie-Watch-1.2 has no origin recorded > > pkg_info: package bsdpan-Tree-MultiNode-1.0.10 has no origin recorded > > pkg_info: package bsdpan-libwww-perl-5.803 has no origin recorded > > pkg_info: package bsdpan-libwww-perl-5.804 has no origin recorded > > pkg_info: package bsdpan-libwww-perl-5.805 has no origin recorded > > =3D=3D=3D> An older version of security/openssl is already installed = ( > > openssl-0.9.7e_2) > > You may wish to ``make deinstall'' and install this port again > > by ``make reinstall'' to upgrade it properly. > > If you really wish to overwrite the old port of security/openssl > > without deleting it first, set the variable "FORCE_PKG_REGISTER" > > in your environment or the "make install" command line. > > *** Error code 1 > > > > Stop in /usr/ports/security/openssl. > > *** Error code 1 > > > > Stop in /usr/ports/mail/exim. > > > > > *************************************************************************= ***************************************** > > > > Please guide me on how I can upgrade exim without effecting other > services > > running on the server. > > > You did install openssl from the ports, yes? You probably shouldn't have > done that, as openssl is supposed to be in the base system for FreeBSD. > I am not going to help you fix that though. You have to decide on what > steps to take - either deinstall the /usr/ports/security/openssl and > rely on the one from the base system or use it as is. > > For the purposes of your current problem, Exim is assuming you are > using TLS, which is what is pulling in the openssl dependency. If you > don't really need TLS support on Exim, then do: > > cd /usr/ports/mail/exim > make -DWITHOUT_TLS > > ..and proceed from there... > > I'd advise you to rely on utils like /usr/ports/sysutils/portupgrade > or /usr/ports/sysutils/portmanager to manage your ports. > > Lastly, you will be happy to deinstall your openssl from the ports and > rebuild all your apps that were relying on it to instead link against > the one in the base system. > > > -Wash > > http://www.netmeister.org/news/learn2quote.html > > -- > +=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D+ > |\ _,,,---,,_ | Odhiambo Washington > Zzz /,`.-'`' -. ;-;;,_ | Wananchi Online Ltd. www.wananchi.com > |,4- ) )-,_. ,\ ( `'-'| Tel: +254 20 313985-9 +254 20 313922 > '---''(_/--' `-'\_) | GSM: +254 722 743223 +254 733 744121 > +=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D+ > Those who express random thoughts to legislative committees are often > surprised and appalled to find themselves the instigators of law. > -- Mark B. Cohen > -- Jayesh Jayan "The box said "Requires Windows 95, NT, or better", so I installed Linux." Visit my homepage @ http://www.jayeshjayan.com From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 13 19:52:05 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B415716A41F for ; Tue, 13 Dec 2005 19:52:05 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from cswiger@mac.com) Received: from pi.codefab.com (pi.codefab.com [199.103.21.227]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D656943D58 for ; Tue, 13 Dec 2005 19:52:04 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from cswiger@mac.com) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pi.codefab.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4EA7D5FD1; Tue, 13 Dec 2005 14:52:04 -0500 (EST) Received: from pi.codefab.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (pi.codefab.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 63007-10; Tue, 13 Dec 2005 14:52:03 -0500 (EST) Received: from [199.103.21.238] (pan.codefab.com [199.103.21.238]) (using TLSv1 with cipher RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by pi.codefab.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 899695D8F; Tue, 13 Dec 2005 14:52:03 -0500 (EST) In-Reply-To: <1134501177.13444.56.camel@columbus.webtent.org> References: <1134501177.13444.56.camel@columbus.webtent.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v746.2) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: <2DED9AA7-DD0C-43CE-9BDB-45E646B1F604@mac.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Charles Swiger Date: Tue, 13 Dec 2005 14:52:01 -0500 To: robert@webtent.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.746.2) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at codefab.com Cc: FreeBSD Subject: Re: Multiple CPUs X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 13 Dec 2005 19:52:05 -0000 On Dec 13, 2005, at 2:12 PM, Robert Fitzpatrick wrote: > I guess this means my new server is only using one of my CPUs? > > esmtp# grep CPU /var/log/dmesg.today > CPU: Intel(R) Xeon(TM) CPU 2.40GHz (2399.33-MHz 686-class CPU) > Hyperthreading: 2 logical CPUs > cpu0: on acpi0 > > Can someone point me to the best doc for enabling use of both CPUs on > the FreeBSD 5.4 server? I assume the kernel needs built with options. Note that if you've only got one physical HTT-capable CPU, running in single-processor mode is likely to give better performance than running SMP just to enable the hyperthreaded virtual CPU. If you've got a dual-CPU box and need to run SMP for that anyway, then using HTT seems to sometimes help and sometimes reduce performance. -- -Chuck From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 13 19:55:26 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A9FCA16A420 for ; Tue, 13 Dec 2005 19:55:26 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from kris@obsecurity.org) Received: from elvis.mu.org (elvis.mu.org [192.203.228.196]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A68E743D8B for ; Tue, 13 Dec 2005 19:55:06 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from kris@obsecurity.org) Received: from obsecurity.dyndns.org (elvis.mu.org [192.203.228.196]) by elvis.mu.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 311D91A3C27; Tue, 13 Dec 2005 11:54:56 -0800 (PST) Received: by obsecurity.dyndns.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 086CC51432; Tue, 13 Dec 2005 14:54:54 -0500 (EST) Date: Tue, 13 Dec 2005 14:54:54 -0500 From: Kris Kennaway To: robert@webtent.com Message-ID: <20051213195454.GA59033@xor.obsecurity.org> References: <1134501177.13444.56.camel@columbus.webtent.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="FL5UXtIhxfXey3p5" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <1134501177.13444.56.camel@columbus.webtent.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Cc: FreeBSD Subject: Re: Multiple CPUs X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 13 Dec 2005 19:55:26 -0000 --FL5UXtIhxfXey3p5 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Tue, Dec 13, 2005 at 02:12:57PM -0500, Robert Fitzpatrick wrote: > I guess this means my new server is only using one of my CPUs? >=20 > esmtp# grep CPU /var/log/dmesg.today > CPU: Intel(R) Xeon(TM) CPU 2.40GHz (2399.33-MHz 686-class CPU) > Hyperthreading: 2 logical CPUs > cpu0: on acpi0 >=20 > Can someone point me to the best doc for enabling use of both CPUs on > the FreeBSD 5.4 server? I assume the kernel needs built with options. FYI, hyperthreading is not a real CPU, and it seems to *really* hurt performance on most workloads. You'll probably benefit from not using it. Kris --FL5UXtIhxfXey3p5 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.2 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFDnycOWry0BWjoQKURAvy0AJ0Vp5BzAsh4ZnHx+BEIE11ylY+XnACg2TEK 2IErvINB5N/BT9U87JXgoxY= =Ig5j -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --FL5UXtIhxfXey3p5-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 13 20:03:41 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 09B2E16A41F for ; Tue, 13 Dec 2005 20:03:41 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from wojtek@tensor.3miasto.net) Received: from chylonia.3miasto.net (chylonia.3miasto.net [213.192.74.6]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C8A2743D92 for ; Tue, 13 Dec 2005 20:03:32 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from wojtek@tensor.3miasto.net) Received: from chylonia.3miasto.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by chylonia.3miasto.net (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id jBDK3C8s018115 for ; Tue, 13 Dec 2005 21:03:12 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wojtek@tensor.3miasto.net) Received: from localhost (wojtek@localhost) by chylonia.3miasto.net (8.13.4/8.13.4/Submit) with ESMTP id jBDK3CnP018112 for ; Tue, 13 Dec 2005 21:03:12 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wojtek@tensor.3miasto.net) X-Authentication-Warning: chylonia.3miasto.net: wojtek owned process doing -bs Date: Tue, 13 Dec 2005 21:03:11 +0100 (CET) From: Wojciech Puchar X-X-Sender: wojtek@chylonia.3miasto.net To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20051213210155.E13042@chylonia.3miasto.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Subject: /etc/mail/local-host-names X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 13 Dec 2005 20:03:41 -0000 how line should look at this file to enable anybody in IPv4 10.0.0.0/8 to relay through this server 10. seems not to work. thanks From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 13 20:16:10 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 36EE016A41F for ; Tue, 13 Dec 2005 20:16:10 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from kline@tao.thought.org) Received: from tao.thought.org (dsl231-043-140.sea1.dsl.speakeasy.net [216.231.43.140]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C741743D55 for ; Tue, 13 Dec 2005 20:15:59 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from kline@tao.thought.org) Received: from tao.thought.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by tao.thought.org (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id jBDKFnAT035290; Tue, 13 Dec 2005 12:15:49 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from kline@tao.thought.org) Received: (from kline@localhost) by tao.thought.org (8.13.1/8.13.1/Submit) id jBDKFhfV035289; Tue, 13 Dec 2005 12:15:43 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from kline) Date: Tue, 13 Dec 2005 12:15:43 -0800 From: Gary Kline To: Wojciech Puchar Message-ID: <20051213201543.GA35221@thought.org> References: <20051213210155.E13042@chylonia.3miasto.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20051213210155.E13042@chylonia.3miasto.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i X-Organization: Thought Unlimited. Public service Unix since 1986. X-Of_Interest: Observing 19 years of service to the Unix community Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: /etc/mail/local-host-names X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 13 Dec 2005 20:16:10 -0000 On Tue, Dec 13, 2005 at 09:03:11PM +0100, Wojciech Puchar wrote: > how line should look at this file > > to enable anybody in IPv4 10.0.0.0/8 to relay through this server > > 10. > > seems not to work. I think--but don't *quote* me:) -- that the host-names file does eactly what ^Cwhostname does in sendmail.cf. So if your host were named foo, you would put ^foo in local-host-names. Anybody else? gary > -- Gary Kline kline@thought.org www.thought.org Public service Unix From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 13 20:31:20 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7E8DF16A41F for ; Tue, 13 Dec 2005 20:31:20 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: from kane.otenet.gr (kane.otenet.gr [195.170.0.95]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F34AB43D91 for ; Tue, 13 Dec 2005 20:31:00 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: from flame.pc (aris.bedc.ondsl.gr [62.103.39.226]) by kane.otenet.gr (8.13.4/8.13.4/Debian-8) with SMTP id jBDKUrZk013628; Tue, 13 Dec 2005 22:30:53 +0200 Received: by flame.pc (Postfix, from userid 1001) id C23E91146C; Tue, 13 Dec 2005 22:30:01 +0200 (EET) Date: Tue, 13 Dec 2005 22:30:01 +0200 From: Giorgos Keramidas To: Gary Kline Message-ID: <20051213203001.GA14332@flame.pc> References: <20051213210155.E13042@chylonia.3miasto.net> <20051213201543.GA35221@thought.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20051213201543.GA35221@thought.org> Cc: Wojciech Puchar , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: /etc/mail/local-host-names X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 13 Dec 2005 20:31:20 -0000 On 2005-12-13 12:15, Gary Kline wrote: >On Tue, Dec 13, 2005 at 09:03:11PM +0100, Wojciech Puchar wrote: >> how line should look at this file >> >> to enable anybody in IPv4 10.0.0.0/8 to relay through this server >> >> 10. >> >> seems not to work. > > I think--but don't *quote* me:) -- that the host-names > file does eactly what ^Cwhostname does in sendmail.cf. > So if your host were named foo, you would put ^foo in > local-host-names. Not quite. Careful with those caret (`^') characters. The /etc/mail/local-host-names file is not where relay control is configured. This is what /etc/mail/access and /etc/mail/access.db are for. The format of /etc/mail/access is described in: /usr/share/sendmail/cf/README Look for the section starting with: +---------------------------------+ | ANTI-SPAM CONFIGURATION CONTROL | +---------------------------------+ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 13 20:36:34 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D295216A41F for ; Tue, 13 Dec 2005 20:36:34 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from davemac11@yahoo.com) Received: from web32812.mail.mud.yahoo.com (web32812.mail.mud.yahoo.com [68.142.206.42]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 9404843D58 for ; Tue, 13 Dec 2005 20:36:26 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from davemac11@yahoo.com) Received: (qmail 71672 invoked by uid 60001); 13 Dec 2005 20:36:22 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=VABqK5IXXt/uEtrapkrBCN2I/A8mJsUJml1nkUixtfGuJq/7T+b0S1elweh8FEl87QQGkzCQkHRzuwige4bKMR2yx/OoozQ4EvxnTHxn9XAKvvY60nQBVvavEx+WIc4qGWDXnuIvWhgxknbEn5V8IvkV3WN35C5MPDNdC/QeyEk= ; Message-ID: <20051213203622.71670.qmail@web32812.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Received: from [165.138.38.60] by web32812.mail.mud.yahoo.com via HTTP; Tue, 13 Dec 2005 12:36:22 PST Date: Tue, 13 Dec 2005 12:36:22 -0800 (PST) From: Dave McCammon To: Wojciech Puchar In-Reply-To: <20051213210155.E13042@chylonia.3miasto.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: /etc/mail/local-host-names X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 13 Dec 2005 20:36:34 -0000 --- Wojciech Puchar wrote: > how line should look at this file > > to enable anybody in IPv4 10.0.0.0/8 to relay > through this server > > 10. > > seems not to work. > > thanks I think you need to put that in /etc/mail/access as 10 RELAY and then do a #make maps Check the Makefile in /etc/mail/ for more on the make option Read /usr/share/sendmail/cf/README for more info. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? 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Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 13 20:36:53 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 726D516A41F for ; Tue, 13 Dec 2005 20:36:53 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from pietro.cerutti@gmail.com) Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.200]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E6D5643D64 for ; Tue, 13 Dec 2005 20:36:46 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from pietro.cerutti@gmail.com) Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 69so213892wri for ; Tue, 13 Dec 2005 12:36:46 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=RJPKJ5g5FWfhkL/lxQQGjRWjJAxE3Y2ZfFOhAPdvXE9QV5UKuW343czKNQgnB4nfaZF4InN5aNCfWRQlxXBEfJyIb2wPJfkLQLPln2LjZVE0jT1+xV5WVHSCSJtUDpWb0now3dKhNi4nC5WJFmW1UbPWWrjxrMaCsNxLwDkcHyk= Received: by 10.65.234.5 with SMTP id l5mr32586qbr; Tue, 13 Dec 2005 12:36:39 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.64.150.18 with HTTP; Tue, 13 Dec 2005 12:36:39 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: Date: Tue, 13 Dec 2005 21:36:39 +0100 From: Pietro Cerutti To: FreeBSD In-Reply-To: <1134501177.13444.56.camel@columbus.webtent.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline References: <1134501177.13444.56.camel@columbus.webtent.org> Subject: Re: Multiple CPUs X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 13 Dec 2005 20:36:53 -0000 On 12/13/05, Robert Fitzpatrick wrote: > I guess this means my new server is only using one of my CPUs? > > esmtp# grep CPU /var/log/dmesg.today > CPU: Intel(R) Xeon(TM) CPU 2.40GHz (2399.33-MHz 686-class CPU) > Hyperthreading: 2 logical CPUs > cpu0: on acpi0 > > Can someone point me to the best doc for enabling use of both CPUs on > the FreeBSD 5.4 server? I assume the kernel needs built with options. > > -- > Robert Do you really want to enable Hyperthreading? Read this before: http://www.daemonology.net/hyperthreading-considered-harmful/ -- Pietro Cerutti Beansidhe - SwiSS Death / Thrash Metal Windows: "Where do you want to go today?" Linux: "Where do you want to go tomorrow?" FreeBSD: "Are you guys coming or what?" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 13 20:40:01 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3155416A41F for ; Tue, 13 Dec 2005 20:40:01 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from walkeraj@gmail.com) Received: from xproxy.gmail.com (xproxy.gmail.com [66.249.82.200]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 63EFB43D60 for ; Tue, 13 Dec 2005 20:40:00 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from walkeraj@gmail.com) Received: by xproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id s9so1276659wxc for ; Tue, 13 Dec 2005 12:39:59 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; b=M3hiSXCnhQf9lRk2nXpQxpyPm4BbcVAoHD+hONotWWGurhh/p1N3GC0nPcP384gDei8dEJUAtLxruGCs/yoAgyz8+7Iz1WPotT06F6FDflH9cOZz4gBUNWOnCqqVzLaUn5d0g7cnOaqbcP82LsbVUQi3cGXoidgkY7lrGnhsaYo= Received: by 10.70.125.20 with SMTP id x20mr1476936wxc; Tue, 13 Dec 2005 12:39:54 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.70.76.16 with HTTP; Tue, 13 Dec 2005 12:39:54 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <457e0a100512131239h20235ad3l8d3d84c6dcf8c3d7@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 13 Dec 2005 11:39:54 -0900 From: Andrew Walker To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline Subject: Thinkpad 380XD with CardBus problems. $PIR: ROUTE_INTERRUPT Failed. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 13 Dec 2005 20:40:01 -0000 I have installed FreeBSD 6.0 on my Thinkpad 380XD, but I cannot get networking to work, and I believe it is because there is a conflict with my cardbus initializing. The card is a Xircom RBEM58G-100, and is listed as supported under the dc driver. Here are the relavent messages from /var/log/messages: ---- cbb0: mem 0x20822000-0x20822fff at device 2.0 on pci0 cardbus0: on cbb0 cbb0: mem 0x20821000-0x20821fff at device 2.1 on pci0 cardbus0: on cbb1 $PIR: ROUTE_INTERRUPT failed. cbb: Unable to map IRQ... device_attach: cbb1 attach returned 12 ----AND LATER (may not be relavent, but...)---- unknown: can't assign resource (port) unknown: can't assign resource (irq) unknown: can't assign resource (port) unknown: can't assign resource (memory) unknown: can't assign resource (port) unknown: can't assign resource (port) unknown: can't assign resource (port) -------- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 13 20:53:25 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 591AC16A41F for ; Tue, 13 Dec 2005 20:53:25 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from cswiger@mac.com) Received: from pi.codefab.com (pi.codefab.com [199.103.21.227]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2E69943D55 for ; Tue, 13 Dec 2005 20:53:23 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from cswiger@mac.com) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pi.codefab.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 360D8606B; Tue, 13 Dec 2005 15:53:22 -0500 (EST) Received: from pi.codefab.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (pi.codefab.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 21151-03; Tue, 13 Dec 2005 15:53:21 -0500 (EST) Received: from [199.103.21.238] (pan.codefab.com [199.103.21.238]) (using TLSv1 with cipher RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by pi.codefab.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 78C895CF8; Tue, 13 Dec 2005 15:53:21 -0500 (EST) In-Reply-To: <20051213210155.E13042@chylonia.3miasto.net> References: <20051213210155.E13042@chylonia.3miasto.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v746.2) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: <5874EDAF-E948-4410-AFAC-AF2544BD1C20@mac.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Charles Swiger Date: Tue, 13 Dec 2005 15:53:20 -0500 To: Wojciech Puchar X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.746.2) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at codefab.com Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: /etc/mail/local-host-names X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 13 Dec 2005 20:53:25 -0000 On Dec 13, 2005, at 3:03 PM, Wojciech Puchar wrote: > how line should look at this file > > to enable anybody in IPv4 10.0.0.0/8 to relay through this server > > 10. > > seems not to work. As someone else has said, local-host-names controls class W, the list of hosts for which mail will be delivered locally. This is not the same thing as the list of hosts for which is it OK to relay mail for. You want to add: 10 RELAY ...to /etc/mail/access, and do a "make all" to rebuild the access map. (Or consider switching to postfix. :-) -- -Chuck From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 13 21:15:55 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5224316A420 for ; Tue, 13 Dec 2005 21:15:55 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from bsdlists@sbcglobal.net) Received: from muse.calarts.edu (muse.calarts.edu [198.182.157.5]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9BE9D43D68 for ; Tue, 13 Dec 2005 21:15:52 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from bsdlists@sbcglobal.net) Received: from [172.24.24.24] (rfc1918-address.calarts.edu [172.24.24.24] (may be forged)) by muse.calarts.edu (8.11.7p1+Sun/8.11.7) with ESMTP id jBDLFoh06807 for ; Tue, 13 Dec 2005 13:15:50 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <439F3A4D.2060704@sbcglobal.net> Date: Tue, 13 Dec 2005 13:17:01 -0800 From: Jose Borquez User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.7 (Windows/20050923) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: FreeBSD Questions Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Ports vs Packages X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 13 Dec 2005 21:15:55 -0000 When installing the same software using either the ports or a package do they both install in the same locations? For Example installing Apache from ports on one server and installing Apache from packages on another server would still use the same locations for both? Thank you in advance, Jose From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 13 21:19:24 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3C1E216A41F for ; Tue, 13 Dec 2005 21:19:24 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from bsdlists@sbcglobal.net) Received: from muse.calarts.edu (muse.calarts.edu [198.182.157.5]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 199D943D64 for ; Tue, 13 Dec 2005 21:19:23 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from bsdlists@sbcglobal.net) Received: from [172.24.24.24] (rfc1918-address.calarts.edu [172.24.24.24] (may be forged)) by muse.calarts.edu (8.11.7p1+Sun/8.11.7) with ESMTP id jBDLJMh07211 for ; Tue, 13 Dec 2005 13:19:22 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <439F3B20.2090509@sbcglobal.net> Date: Tue, 13 Dec 2005 13:20:32 -0800 From: Jose Borquez User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.7 (Windows/20050923) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: FreeBSD Questions Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Order of installation for Apache, PHP, IMAP, and MySQL X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 13 Dec 2005 21:19:24 -0000 I need to install and configure Apache, PHP, IMAP, and MySQL because I would like to install Group Office which is a groupware application sweet. I need to know if there is a specific order that I need to install the applications listed above. Any help on this would be greatly appreciated. Thank you in advance, Jose From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 13 21:22:05 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EA0C116A420 for ; Tue, 13 Dec 2005 21:22:05 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from kris@obsecurity.org) Received: from elvis.mu.org (elvis.mu.org [192.203.228.196]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 199E743D6A for ; Tue, 13 Dec 2005 21:22:05 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from kris@obsecurity.org) Received: from obsecurity.dyndns.org (elvis.mu.org [192.203.228.196]) by elvis.mu.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B17C21A3C1F; Tue, 13 Dec 2005 13:22:04 -0800 (PST) Received: by obsecurity.dyndns.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 012B8519E6; Tue, 13 Dec 2005 16:22:03 -0500 (EST) Date: Tue, 13 Dec 2005 16:22:03 -0500 From: Kris Kennaway To: Jose Borquez Message-ID: <20051213212203.GA60590@xor.obsecurity.org> References: <439F3A4D.2060704@sbcglobal.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="9jxsPFA5p3P2qPhR" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <439F3A4D.2060704@sbcglobal.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: Ports vs Packages X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 13 Dec 2005 21:22:06 -0000 --9jxsPFA5p3P2qPhR Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Tue, Dec 13, 2005 at 01:17:01PM -0800, Jose Borquez wrote: > When installing the same software using either the ports or a package=20 > do they both install in the same locations? For Example installing=20 > Apache from ports on one server and installing Apache from packages on=20 > another server would still use the same locations for both? The same. A package is just a port built with default options. Kris --9jxsPFA5p3P2qPhR Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.2 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFDnzt7Wry0BWjoQKURAohAAKC74Kah8uRkzYfeQG6mWOHgvHQyFACgn/mW tj2M0rqhza6rrvBeGyumlFU= =+6vU -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --9jxsPFA5p3P2qPhR-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 13 21:22:18 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6145516A422 for ; Tue, 13 Dec 2005 21:22:18 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from albi@scii.nl) Received: from post-25.mail.nl.demon.net (post-25.mail.nl.demon.net [194.159.73.195]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A694043D5C for ; Tue, 13 Dec 2005 21:22:17 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from albi@scii.nl) Received: from aseed.demon.nl ([83.160.138.119]:9869 helo=mail.aseed.antenna.nl) by post-25.mail.nl.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1EmHbE-000PuW-GP; Tue, 13 Dec 2005 21:22:16 +0000 Received: from http.aseed.antenna.nl (http.aseed.antenna.nl [192.168.0.50]) by mail.aseed.antenna.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9C47815500F; Tue, 13 Dec 2005 22:22:43 +0100 (CET) Received: from localhost.localdomain (217-19-30-147.dsl.cambrium.nl [217.19.30.147]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by http.aseed.antenna.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8C83A58CECF; Tue, 13 Dec 2005 22:22:53 +0100 (CET) Date: Tue, 13 Dec 2005 22:22:09 +0100 From: albi To: Jose Borquez Message-Id: <20051213222209.a31b2d3f.albi@scii.nl> In-Reply-To: <439F3A4D.2060704@sbcglobal.net> References: <439F3A4D.2060704@sbcglobal.net> X-Mailer: Sylpheed version 2.1.1 (GTK+ 2.8.6; i486-pc-linux-gnu) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Ports vs Packages X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 13 Dec 2005 21:22:18 -0000 On Tue, 13 Dec 2005 13:17:01 -0800 Jose Borquez wrote: > When installing the same software using either the ports or a > package do they both install in the same locations? For Example > installing Apache from ports on one server and installing Apache from > packages on another server would still use the same locations for > both? yes, afaik ports and packages both use /usr/local as prefix (the "makeworld base" however uses /usr as prefix) -- grtjs, albi gpg-key: lynx -dump http://scii.nl/~albi/gpg.asc | gpg --import From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 13 21:24:05 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2C92316A41F for ; Tue, 13 Dec 2005 21:24:05 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from darren@nighttide.net) Received: from olmec.nighttide.net (jasper.nighttide.net [207.5.141.146]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4EA5443D81 for ; Tue, 13 Dec 2005 21:23:56 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from darren@nighttide.net) Received: from olmec.nighttide.net (darren@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by olmec.nighttide.net (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id jBDLNsgn060403 for ; Tue, 13 Dec 2005 16:23:54 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from darren@nighttide.net) Received: from localhost (darren@localhost) by olmec.nighttide.net (8.13.4/8.13.4/Submit) with ESMTP id jBDLNsch060400 for ; Tue, 13 Dec 2005 16:23:54 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from darren@nighttide.net) X-Authentication-Warning: olmec.nighttide.net: darren owned process doing -bs Date: Tue, 13 Dec 2005 16:23:54 -0500 (EST) From: Darren Henderson To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <20051213130544.H59008@olmec> Message-ID: <20051213161955.W59008@olmec> References: <20051213130544.H59008@olmec> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Subject: Re: HP-UX NFS client X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 13 Dec 2005 21:24:05 -0000 On Tue, 13 Dec 2005, Darren Henderson wrote: > > synopsis: freebsd NFS server, HP-UX NFS client. Client succeeds if it uses > automount to mount the volumes but fails if a manual mount is used despite > options. > > question: anyone have experience in a similar enviroment that can point me > toward a solution? Replying to my own post for the archive. It turned out that for whatever reason rpcinfo was not reporting out nfs. I suspect I probably caused rpcbind to restart at some point without restarting nfsd. After rebooting the box rpcinfo did report out. The reason the automount on the client machine worked was that it didn't care about rpc issue. It just assumed the port was there and used it. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 13 21:35:32 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9BEDF16A41F for ; Tue, 13 Dec 2005 21:35:32 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from deejy-pooh@ntlworld.com) Received: from mta09-winn.ispmail.ntl.com (mta09-winn.ispmail.ntl.com [81.103.221.49]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7673D43D73 for ; Tue, 13 Dec 2005 21:35:22 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from deejy-pooh@ntlworld.com) Received: from aamta12-winn.ispmail.ntl.com ([81.103.221.35]) by mta09-winn.ispmail.ntl.com with ESMTP id <20051213213521.MCBR8609.mta09-winn.ispmail.ntl.com@aamta12-winn.ispmail.ntl.com> for ; Tue, 13 Dec 2005 21:35:21 +0000 Received: from [82.25.112.91] by aamta12-winn.ispmail.ntl.com with ESMTP id <20051213213521.OUUE18425.aamta12-winn.ispmail.ntl.com@[82.25.112.91]> for ; Tue, 13 Dec 2005 21:35:21 +0000 Message-ID: <439F3E96.5090101@ntlworld.com> Date: Tue, 13 Dec 2005 21:35:18 +0000 From: Uncle Deejy-Pooh User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.6-1.1.fc3 (X11/20050720) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Off-Topic X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 13 Dec 2005 21:35:32 -0000 We've another contender for the 'Signature-of-the-Forum' award. This one spotted from Jayesh Jayan: "The box said "Requires Windows 95, NT, or better", so I installed Linux." Although I'm SURE it should read "..... FreeBSD" ! But, still in No1 spot: Windows: "Where do you want to go today?" Linux: "Where do you want to go tomorrow?" FreeBSD: "Are you guys coming or what?" From Pietro Cerutti. Keep 'em coming.... Deej From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 13 21:45:56 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6E41016A41F for ; Tue, 13 Dec 2005 21:45:56 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from nvidican@wmptl.com) Received: from wmptl.net (fw1.wmptl.com [216.8.159.129]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9703E43D5A for ; Tue, 13 Dec 2005 21:45:54 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from nvidican@wmptl.com) Received: from [10.0.0.104] (r3140ca.wmptl.net [10.0.0.104]) by wmptl.net (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id jBDLjq2K097741; Tue, 13 Dec 2005 16:45:52 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from nvidican@wmptl.com) Message-ID: <439F4110.5090301@wmptl.com> Date: Tue, 13 Dec 2005 16:45:52 -0500 From: Nathan Vidican User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.6 (X11/20050716) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Jose Borquez References: <439F3A4D.2060704@sbcglobal.net> In-Reply-To: <439F3A4D.2060704@sbcglobal.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Score: 0.111 () RATWR10_MESSID X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.44 Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Ports vs Packages X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 13 Dec 2005 21:45:56 -0000 Jose Borquez wrote: > When installing the same software using either the ports or a package do > they both install in the same locations? For Example installing Apache > from ports on one server and installing Apache from packages on another > server would still use the same locations for both? > > Thank you in advance, > Jose > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > By default, afaik - yes, but that's the short answer ;) -- Nathan Vidican nvidican@wmptl.com Windsor Match Plate & Tool Ltd. http://www.wmptl.com/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 13 21:56:50 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D028E16A41F for ; Tue, 13 Dec 2005 21:56:50 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from rsmith@xs4all.nl) Received: from smtp-vbr13.xs4all.nl (smtp-vbr13.xs4all.nl [194.109.24.33]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ED25743D45 for ; Tue, 13 Dec 2005 21:56:49 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from rsmith@xs4all.nl) Received: from slackbox.xs4all.nl (slackbox.xs4all.nl [213.84.242.160]) by smtp-vbr13.xs4all.nl (8.13.3/8.13.3) with ESMTP id jBDLultl046521; Tue, 13 Dec 2005 22:56:48 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from rsmith@xs4all.nl) Received: by slackbox.xs4all.nl (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 78B71B827; Tue, 13 Dec 2005 22:56:47 +0100 (CET) Date: Tue, 13 Dec 2005 22:56:47 +0100 From: Roland Smith To: Uncle Deejy-Pooh Message-ID: <20051213215647.GA27582@slackbox.xs4all.nl> Mail-Followup-To: Uncle Deejy-Pooh , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <439F3E96.5090101@ntlworld.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="2oS5YaxWCcQjTEyO" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <439F3E96.5090101@ntlworld.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i X-GPG-Fingerprint: 1A2B 477F 9970 BA3C 2914 B7CE 1277 EFB0 C321 A725 X-GPG-Key: http://www.xs4all.nl/~rsmith/pubkey.txt X-GPG-Notice: If this message is not signed, don't assume I sent it! X-Virus-Scanned: by XS4ALL Virus Scanner Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Off-Topic X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 13 Dec 2005 21:56:50 -0000 --2oS5YaxWCcQjTEyO Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Tue, Dec 13, 2005 at 09:35:18PM +0000, Uncle Deejy-Pooh wrote: > We've another contender for the 'Signature-of-the-Forum' award. > This one spotted from Jayesh Jayan: > "The box said "Requires Windows 95, NT, or better", so I installed=20 > Linux." > Although I'm SURE it should read "..... FreeBSD" ! >=20 > But, still in No1 spot: > Windows: "Where do you want to go today?" > Linux: "Where do you want to go tomorrow?" > FreeBSD: "Are you guys coming or what?" A few choicy ones: I sense much NT in you. NT leads to Bluescreen. Bluescreen leads to downtime. Downtime leads to suffering. NT is the path to the darkside. Powerful Unix is. C:\WINDOWS C:\WINDOWS\GO C:\PC\CRAWL Microsoft spel chekar vor sail, worgs grate! For a new monitor, nail here: [x] Unix was not designed to stop people from doing stupid things, because that would also stop them from doing clever things. -- Doug Gwyn Windows caters to everyone as though they are idiots. UNIX makes no such assumption. It assumes you know what you are doing, and presents the challenge of figuring it out for yourself if you don't. MCSE: Must Consult Someone Experienced The No. 1 remote administration tool for Windows NT is a car. The best way to accellerate a computer running Windows is at 9.81 m/s^2 Unix _is_ user-friendly. It's just a little picky about who it's friends are. When in doubt, use brute force -- Ken Thompson Roland --=20 R.F.Smith (http://www.xs4all.nl/~rsmith/) Please send e-mail as plain text. public key: http://www.xs4all.nl/~rsmith/pubkey.txt --2oS5YaxWCcQjTEyO Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.2 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFDn0OfEnfvsMMhpyURAtEmAJ4szl+WWtZB6moTBjZTFFlhNeoovgCfamVs 0lVoP8IEeVD0ncBJC8xcxZE= =YLRT -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --2oS5YaxWCcQjTEyO-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 13 22:08:33 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 55D9416A41F for ; Tue, 13 Dec 2005 22:08:33 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from josh@endries.org) Received: from www.endries.org (www.endries.org [216.230.164.2]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DD8F443D45 for ; Tue, 13 Dec 2005 22:08:32 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from josh@endries.org) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by www.endries.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2342DF7459 for ; Tue, 13 Dec 2005 17:08:29 -0500 (EST) Received: from www.endries.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (www.endries.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10025) with LMTP id 74699-04 for ; Tue, 13 Dec 2005 17:08:22 -0500 (EST) Received: from [192.168.0.166] (host-64-246-146-151.ubr0.alb1.inoc.net [64.246.146.151]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by www.endries.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C4E32F741D for ; Tue, 13 Dec 2005 17:08:21 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <439F464F.9040703@endries.org> Date: Tue, 13 Dec 2005 17:08:15 -0500 From: Josh Endries User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.2 (X11/20050405) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Enigmail-Version: 0.91.0.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at endries.org Subject: sysinstall swap node problem X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 13 Dec 2005 22:08:33 -0000 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 So anyone have a resolution to this problem asked last year: http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-questions/2004-March/040502.html http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-questions/2004-March/042082.html I'm having the same problem but haven't figured it out, maybe it's just a bug in sysinstall? If I don't use diskLabelCommit and wait until installCommit later it continues, but that doesn't make sense to me; there's no more disk setup type stuff afterwards, just packages. Bleh. Josh -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.2 (FreeBSD) Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFDn0ZOV/+PyAj2L+IRApntAKCdI/5p4VRqGwaF/UcYeYNBLnzePwCeMcjd C6cSGU+SdKR/Z7tlrpkIisM= =v6yS -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 13 22:19:09 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AE73316A41F for ; Tue, 13 Dec 2005 22:19:09 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from josh@endries.org) Received: from www.endries.org (www.endries.org [216.230.164.2]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0664E43D58 for ; Tue, 13 Dec 2005 22:19:09 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from josh@endries.org) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by www.endries.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6A378F74D3 for ; Tue, 13 Dec 2005 17:19:07 -0500 (EST) Received: from www.endries.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (www.endries.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10025) with LMTP id 74483-06 for ; Tue, 13 Dec 2005 17:19:01 -0500 (EST) Received: from [192.168.0.166] (host-64-246-146-151.ubr0.alb1.inoc.net [64.246.146.151]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by www.endries.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3A828F741D for ; Tue, 13 Dec 2005 17:19:01 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <439F48CE.2080800@endries.org> Date: Tue, 13 Dec 2005 17:18:54 -0500 From: Josh Endries User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.2 (X11/20050405) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <439F464F.9040703@endries.org> In-Reply-To: <439F464F.9040703@endries.org> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.91.0.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at endries.org Subject: Re: sysinstall swap node problem X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 13 Dec 2005 22:19:09 -0000 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Josh Endries wrote: > I'm having the same problem but haven't figured it out, maybe it's > just a bug in sysinstall? If I don't use diskLabelCommit and wait > until installCommit later it continues, but that doesn't make sense > to me; there's no more disk setup type stuff afterwards, just > packages. Bleh. Sorry the command to remove is diskPartitionWrite, not diskLabelCommit. J -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.2 (FreeBSD) Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFDn0jOV/+PyAj2L+IRAgBfAJ49pAd24PlSjnDcXWoNDWm4S+KEDgCeN3Hc Et0fGtvES0Td0hMypF8uUZw= =hO1y -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 13 22:27:26 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 558EF16A41F for ; Tue, 13 Dec 2005 22:27:26 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from kdk@daleco.biz) Received: from ezekiel.daleco.biz (southernuniform.com [66.76.92.18]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8D4D443D58 for ; Tue, 13 Dec 2005 22:27:25 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from kdk@daleco.biz) Received: from [192.168.2.2] ([69.27.149.254]) by ezekiel.daleco.biz (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id jBDMPwbL046035; Tue, 13 Dec 2005 16:26:33 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from kdk@daleco.biz) Message-ID: <439F4A67.5020202@daleco.biz> Date: Tue, 13 Dec 2005 16:25:43 -0600 From: Kevin Kinsey User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.7.12) Gecko/20051026 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Jose Borquez References: <439F3B20.2090509@sbcglobal.net> In-Reply-To: <439F3B20.2090509@sbcglobal.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: Order of installation for Apache, PHP, IMAP, and MySQL X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 13 Dec 2005 22:27:26 -0000 Jose Borquez wrote: > I need to install and configure Apache, PHP, IMAP, and MySQL because > I would like to install Group Office which is a groupware application > sweet. > I need to know if there is a specific order that I need to install the > applications listed above. Any help on this would be greatly > appreciated. > > Thank you in advance, > Jose Installing PHP (/usr/ports/lang/php$n) will pull in Apache 1.3 by default, and client libraries for IMAP support and MySQL support when you install (/usr/ports/lang/php$n-extensions). I'm assuming though, that you mean an IMAP *server* and a MySQL *server*; in which case I'd do either of those first, and followup with PHP and php-extensions. In any case, installing should be as simple as moving to the appropriate directory under /usr/ports, and typing (as root) "make install clean" at a command prompt. Although it'll be boring, I'd suggest sitting in the general vicinity of your terminal, as, if this is a fresh install, you will be prompted for configuration by a "curses" mode options menu. You can, however, get around this by doing all your config on the command-line; but that's a rather lengthy command string, and might take almost as much time to discover all the perfect values for. The good news: should you desire to reinstall the apps, the configuration should be saved for you. See ports(7) for more information. HTH, Kevin Kinsey From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 13 23:13:12 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7B9F216A41F for ; Tue, 13 Dec 2005 23:13:12 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ml@t-b-o-h.net) Received: from vjofn.tucs-beachin-obx-house.com (vjofn.tucs-beachin-obx-house.com [204.107.90.128]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C0FEF43D8F for ; Tue, 13 Dec 2005 23:12:52 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ml@t-b-o-h.net) Received: from himinbjorg.tucs-beachin-obx-house.com (pcp0011936892pcs.summit01.nj.comcast.net [69.249.95.97]) (authenticated bits=128) by vjofn.tucs-beachin-obx-house.com (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id jBDNCqYD065951 for ; Tue, 13 Dec 2005 18:12:52 -0500 (EST) Received: from himinbjorg.tucs-beachin-obx-house.com (localhost.tucs-beachin-obx-house.com [127.0.0.1]) by himinbjorg.tucs-beachin-obx-house.com (8.13.3/8.12.10) with ESMTP id jBDND5Xl034153 for ; Tue, 13 Dec 2005 18:13:05 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from ml@t-b-o-h.net) Received: (from tbohml@localhost) by himinbjorg.tucs-beachin-obx-house.com (8.13.3/8.13.1/Submit) id jBDND5IW034152 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Tue, 13 Dec 2005 18:13:05 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from tbohml) From: Tuc at T-B-O-H Message-Id: <200512132313.jBDND5IW034152@himinbjorg.tucs-beachin-obx-house.com> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Tue, 13 Dec 2005 18:13:05 -0500 (EST) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.5 PL8] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: FBSD4 to FBSD5 gone bad X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 13 Dec 2005 23:13:12 -0000 Hi, Following http://www.freebsd.org/releases/5.3R/migration-guide.html and I ran into a problem. When I boot to single user mode It sticks and can't get farther. I'm typing this by hand.... atapci0: port 0x376,0x170-0x177,0x3f6,0x1f0-0x1f7 at device 5.1 on pci0 atapci0: Lazy allocation of 0x10 bytes rid 0x20 type 4 at 0 ata0: channel #0 on atapci0 atapci0: Reserved 0x8 bytes for rid 0x10 type 4 at 0x1f0 atapci0: Reserved 0x1 bytes for rid 0x14 type 4 at 0x3f6 ata0: reset tp1 mask=03 ostat0=50 ostat1=00 ata0-master: stat=0x50 err=0x01 lsb=0x00 msb=0x00 ata0-slave: stat=0x00 err=0x01 lsb=0x00 msb=0x00 ata0: reset tp2 stat0=50 stat1=00 devices=0x1 ata0: [MPSAFE] ata1: channel #1 on atapci0 atapci0: Reserved 0x8 bytes for rid 0x18 type 4 at 0x170 atapci0: Reserved 0x1 bytes for rid 0x1c type 4 at 0x376 What now? Thanks, Tuc From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 13 23:24:00 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 347C816A41F for ; Tue, 13 Dec 2005 23:24:00 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from rmarella@gmail.com) Received: from ms-smtp-03-eri0.socal.rr.com (ms-smtp-03-qfe0.socal.rr.com [66.75.162.135]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E2CEF43D49 for ; Tue, 13 Dec 2005 23:23:49 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from rmarella@gmail.com) Received: from frankie.konav201.local (cpe-66-8-187-40.hawaii.res.rr.com [66.8.187.40]) by ms-smtp-03-eri0.socal.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id jBDNNhV7012184; Tue, 13 Dec 2005 15:23:44 -0800 (PST) Date: Tue, 13 Dec 2005 13:23:43 -1000 From: Robert Marella To: Roland Smith Message-ID: <20051213132343.3c7c8acd@frankie.konav201.local> In-Reply-To: <20051213215647.GA27582@slackbox.xs4all.nl> References: <439F3E96.5090101@ntlworld.com> <20051213215647.GA27582@slackbox.xs4all.nl> X-Mailer: Sylpheed-Claws 1.9.100 (GTK+ 2.8.9; i386-portbld-freebsd6.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: Symantec AntiVirus Scan Engine Cc: Uncle Deejy-Pooh , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Off-Topic X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 13 Dec 2005 23:24:00 -0000 On Tue, 13 Dec 2005 22:56:47 +0100 Roland Smith wrote: > On Tue, Dec 13, 2005 at 09:35:18PM +0000, Uncle Deejy-Pooh wrote: > > We've another contender for the 'Signature-of-the-Forum' award. > > This one spotted from Jayesh Jayan: > > "The box said "Requires Windows 95, NT, or better", so I > > installed Linux." > > Although I'm SURE it should read "..... FreeBSD" ! > > > > But, still in No1 spot: > > Windows: "Where do you want to go today?" > > Linux: "Where do you want to go tomorrow?" > > FreeBSD: "Are you guys coming or what?" > > A few choicy ones: > > I sense much NT in you. > NT leads to Bluescreen. > Bluescreen leads to downtime. > Downtime leads to suffering. > NT is the path to the darkside. > Powerful Unix is. > > C:\WINDOWS C:\WINDOWS\GO C:\PC\CRAWL > > Microsoft spel chekar vor sail, worgs grate! > > For a new monitor, nail here: [x] > > Unix was not designed to stop people from doing stupid things, because > that would also stop them from doing clever things. > -- Doug Gwyn > > Windows caters to everyone as though they are idiots. UNIX makes no > such assumption. It assumes you know what you are doing, and presents > the challenge of figuring it out for yourself if you don't. > > MCSE: Must Consult Someone Experienced > > The No. 1 remote administration tool for Windows NT is a car. > > The best way to accellerate a computer running Windows is at 9.81 > m/s^2 > > Unix _is_ user-friendly. It's just a little picky about who it's > friends are. > > When in doubt, use brute force > -- Ken Thompson > > > Roland FreeBSD is as easy as 1 + 1 = 10 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 13 23:31:42 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2A8F516A41F for ; Tue, 13 Dec 2005 23:31:42 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from parv@pair.com) Received: from mta13.adelphia.net (mta13.mail.adelphia.net [68.168.78.44]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6B2A843D45 for ; Tue, 13 Dec 2005 23:31:41 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from parv@pair.com) Received: from default.chvlva.adelphia.net ([68.67.248.52]) by mta13.adelphia.net (InterMail vM.6.01.05.02 201-2131-123-102-20050715) with ESMTP id <20051213233140.ILSZ26442.mta13.adelphia.net@default.chvlva.adelphia.net>; Tue, 13 Dec 2005 18:31:40 -0500 Received: by default.chvlva.adelphia.net (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 96FB0B547; Tue, 13 Dec 2005 18:31:43 -0500 (EST) Date: Tue, 13 Dec 2005 18:31:43 -0500 From: Parv To: Uncle Deejy-Pooh , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20051213233143.GB27219@holestein.holy.cow> Mail-Followup-To: Uncle Deejy-Pooh , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <439F3E96.5090101@ntlworld.com> <20051213215647.GA27582@slackbox.xs4all.nl> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20051213215647.GA27582@slackbox.xs4all.nl> Cc: Subject: Re: Off-Topic X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 13 Dec 2005 23:31:42 -0000 in message <20051213215647.GA27582@slackbox.xs4all.nl>, wrote Roland Smith thusly... > > > Unix _is_ user-friendly. It's just a little picky about who it's > friends are. That is due to Tollef Fog Heen ... http://groups.google.com/group/linux.debian.maint.boot/message/a5ad57a7694c5549?dmode=source - Parv -- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 13 23:35:01 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4F5E816A422 for ; Tue, 13 Dec 2005 23:35:01 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from racerx@makeworld.com) Received: from makeworld.com (makeworld.com [216.201.118.142]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2843F43D5F for ; Tue, 13 Dec 2005 23:34:54 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from racerx@makeworld.com) Received: from localhost (localhost.com [127.0.0.1]) by makeworld.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A480B649E; Tue, 13 Dec 2005 17:34:42 -0600 (CST) Received: from makeworld.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (makeworld.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 37240-07; Tue, 13 Dec 2005 17:34:31 -0600 (CST) Received: by makeworld.com (Postfix, from userid 1008) id 9AA8F6494; Tue, 13 Dec 2005 17:34:31 -0600 (CST) Received: from [216.201.118.138] (racerx.makeworld.com [216.201.118.138]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by makeworld.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D77F9648A; Tue, 13 Dec 2005 17:34:29 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <439F5AC5.60109@makeworld.com> Date: Tue, 13 Dec 2005 17:35:33 -0600 From: Chris User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.7 (X11/20051204) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Gayn Winters References: <044801c60004$a57400b0$6501a8c0@workdog> In-Reply-To: <044801c60004$a57400b0$6501a8c0@workdog> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new-2.3.3 (20050822) at makeworld.com - FreeBSD:The Power To Serve Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, 'Kiffin Gish' Subject: Re: Lousy network performance ... X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: RacerX@makeworld.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 13 Dec 2005 23:35:01 -0000 Gayn Winters wrote: >>-----Original Message----- >>From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org >>[mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org] On Behalf Of Kiffin Gish >>Sent: Tuesday, December 13, 2005 1:16 AM >>To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org >>Subject: Lousy network performance ... >> >> >>I am having problems with a slow Internet DSL-connection, >>especially while >>surfing around the web. >> >>My service-provider claims that his network is just fine (of >>course!) and >>that the problem is because of all the 'so-called junk' I >>have configured on >>my home network on my side of the connection. >> >>On my side of the adsl-modem/router I have a router which is connected >>directly to two Windows XP desktops, via a switch to two >>FreeBSD machines >>(webserver and fileserver) and via a wireless link my combo >>FreeBSD/Windows >>XP laptop. I have Samba running for file exchange bweteen the >>Windows and >>FreeBSD boxes and I have port 80 opened on the >>adsl-moden/router to allow >>access to a couple of web sites I am running. >> >>Is there some kind of way to prove my ISP is wrong by doing a >>trace? What >>tools are available? How can I demonstrate that the >>bottleneck is not my >>home network but the DSL-connection? > > > Unplug your router, plug in a PC to the adsl-modem. Set the PC to your > router's external IP address, DNS, and gateway. Test the speed. (If > your ISP won't provide a speed test, Google for DSL speed test and pick > an appropriate one.) If you got your ISP to visit you, this is what > they would do. They won't (and shouldn't) believe anything else. Your > web sites will be down for less than 5 minutes. > > -gayn In addition to the above - keep in mind that most DSL/ADSL is for the most part, 1.4 meg download and 128k up. What does that mean? Well - consider the fact while you run a few webservers, users browsing to those sites are only abable to access it by my above example, 128k. Now, imagine several users from the world accessing those same sites. Do you see where the issues are? Your provider may very well be telling you the truth. You may be saturating your pipe without even knowing it. -- Best regards, Chris It is morally wrong to allow suckers to keep their money. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 13 23:42:00 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 05EBC16A41F for ; Tue, 13 Dec 2005 23:42:00 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from bsdlists@sbcglobal.net) Received: from muse.calarts.edu (muse.calarts.edu [198.182.157.5]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 026FC43D55 for ; Tue, 13 Dec 2005 23:41:57 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from bsdlists@sbcglobal.net) Received: from [172.24.24.24] (rfc1918-address.calarts.edu [172.24.24.24] (may be forged)) by muse.calarts.edu (8.11.7p1+Sun/8.11.7) with ESMTP id jBDNfmh25113; Tue, 13 Dec 2005 15:41:48 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <439F5C82.9060605@sbcglobal.net> Date: Tue, 13 Dec 2005 15:42:58 -0800 From: Jose Borquez User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.7 (Windows/20050923) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Nathan Vidican References: <439F3A4D.2060704@sbcglobal.net> <439F4110.5090301@wmptl.com> In-Reply-To: <439F4110.5090301@wmptl.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Ports vs Packages X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 13 Dec 2005 23:42:00 -0000 Nathan Vidican wrote: > Jose Borquez wrote: > >> When installing the same software using either the ports or a package >> do they both install in the same locations? For Example installing >> Apache from ports on one server and installing Apache from packages >> on another server would still use the same locations for both? >> >> Thank you in advance, >> Jose >> _______________________________________________ >> freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list >> http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions >> To unsubscribe, send any mail to >> "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" >> >> > By default, afaik - yes, but that's the short answer ;) > What is the long answer? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 13 23:47:12 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1107916A41F for ; Tue, 13 Dec 2005 23:47:12 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from racerx@makeworld.com) Received: from makeworld.com (makeworld.com [216.201.118.142]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 633AC43D68 for ; Tue, 13 Dec 2005 23:47:11 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from racerx@makeworld.com) Received: from localhost (localhost.com [127.0.0.1]) by makeworld.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6DEF6649E; Tue, 13 Dec 2005 17:47:10 -0600 (CST) Received: from makeworld.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (makeworld.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 37240-10; Tue, 13 Dec 2005 17:47:06 -0600 (CST) Received: by makeworld.com (Postfix, from userid 1008) id 276156494; Tue, 13 Dec 2005 17:47:06 -0600 (CST) Received: from [216.201.118.138] (racerx.makeworld.com [216.201.118.138]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by makeworld.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B57CA648A; Tue, 13 Dec 2005 17:47:04 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <439F5DB9.60205@makeworld.com> Date: Tue, 13 Dec 2005 17:48:09 -0600 From: Chris User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.7 (X11/20051204) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Jose Borquez References: <439F3A4D.2060704@sbcglobal.net> <439F4110.5090301@wmptl.com> <439F5C82.9060605@sbcglobal.net> In-Reply-To: <439F5C82.9060605@sbcglobal.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new-2.3.3 (20050822) at makeworld.com - FreeBSD:The Power To Serve Cc: questions@freebsd.org, Nathan Vidican Subject: Re: Ports vs Packages X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: RacerX@makeworld.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 13 Dec 2005 23:47:12 -0000 Jose Borquez wrote: > Nathan Vidican wrote: > >> Jose Borquez wrote: >> >>> When installing the same software using either the ports or a package >>> do they both install in the same locations? For Example installing >>> Apache from ports on one server and installing Apache from packages >>> on another server would still use the same locations for both? >>> >>> Thank you in advance, >>> Jose >>> _______________________________________________ >>> freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list >>> http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions >>> To unsubscribe, send any mail to >>> "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" >>> >>> >> By default, afaik - yes, but that's the short answer ;) >> > What is the long answer? ... try it for yourself and see?! -- Best regards, Chris The label "new" and/or "improved" means the price went up. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Dec 14 00:02:32 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D355D16A41F for ; Wed, 14 Dec 2005 00:02:32 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from parv@pair.com) Received: from mta11.adelphia.net (mta11.adelphia.net [68.168.78.205]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6493E43D62 for ; Wed, 14 Dec 2005 00:02:32 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from parv@pair.com) Received: from default.chvlva.adelphia.net ([68.67.248.52]) by mta11.adelphia.net (InterMail vM.6.01.05.02 201-2131-123-102-20050715) with ESMTP id <20051214000231.HTKT4477.mta11.adelphia.net@default.chvlva.adelphia.net> for ; Tue, 13 Dec 2005 19:02:31 -0500 Received: by default.chvlva.adelphia.net (Postfix, from userid 1000) id BA0F9B547; Tue, 13 Dec 2005 19:02:34 -0500 (EST) Date: Tue, 13 Dec 2005 19:02:34 -0500 From: Parv To: f-q Message-ID: <20051214000234.GA28630@holestein.holy.cow> Mail-Followup-To: f-q Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Subject: Getting the network traffic amount since the interface went up X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 14 Dec 2005 00:02:32 -0000 I am interested to know the total amount of data passed through a network interface (em0 in my case) since the interface went up. So far, i have seen that pload, nload, & "netstat -b -I" report the amount since the operating system has been up, not since the new ethernet connection has been (re)established. Is there a way to find out the amount of traffic (in & out) since a network interface has been up (not since the OS has been up)? - Parv -- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Dec 14 00:25:07 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 69BE216A41F for ; Wed, 14 Dec 2005 00:25:07 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from elmer.rivera@gmail.com) Received: from xproxy.gmail.com (xproxy.gmail.com [66.249.82.194]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7039243D6D for ; Wed, 14 Dec 2005 00:24:59 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from elmer.rivera@gmail.com) Received: by xproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id t12so1339022wxc for ; Tue, 13 Dec 2005 16:24:58 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; 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Wed, 14 Dec 2005 00:34:35 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from dexter@ambidexter.com) Received: from fed1rmmtao06.cox.net (fed1rmmtao06.cox.net [68.230.241.33]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0B24B43D79 for ; Wed, 14 Dec 2005 00:34:34 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from dexter@ambidexter.com) Received: from [192.168.1.30] (really [68.6.69.14]) by fed1rmmtao06.cox.net (InterMail vM.6.01.05.02 201-2131-123-102-20050715) with ESMTP id <20051214003239.OYVR20050.fed1rmmtao06.cox.net@[192.168.1.30]> for ; Tue, 13 Dec 2005 19:32:39 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: Date: Tue, 13 Dec 2005 16:34:32 -0800 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: Michael Dexter Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" Subject: kern.maxdsiz "big memory/tuning" questions X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 14 Dec 2005 00:34:35 -0000 Hello, I'm trying to RTFM but the M does not appear to exist. I am dealing with processes over 512MB in size on 6.0 on x86 and am using these loader.conf tunables as suggested by MySQL and other documentation: kern.maxdsiz="1073741824" # 1GB kern.dfldsiz="1073741824" # 1GB kern.maxssiz="134217728" # 128MB I can glean so far that: 1. You don't want to exceed physical memory with these 2. These are listed in /boot/defaults/loader.conf 3. This is not controlled by sysctls :) 4. 'limits' will show what they are currently set to However, I am not clear if: 1. It is permitted to use "M" and "G" notation (kern.maxsiz="1G")? - some say yes, some say no and I would prefer not risk the system not booting. 2. Which tunables actually matter beyond kern.maxdsiz? Some say only kern.maxdsiz and some suggest all three. 'man tuning' and the handbook (~/handbook/configtuning-kernel-limits.html) only goes into maxfiles and maxusers. Searches of this list and Google have yeilded what you see above. Could someone please share some wisdom or docs on this matter? Much appreciated, Michael. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Dec 14 00:42:47 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C3ACD16A41F for ; Wed, 14 Dec 2005 00:42:47 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from europa100@comcast.net) Received: from sccrmhc14.comcast.net (sccrmhc14.comcast.net [63.240.77.84]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4833043D67 for ; Wed, 14 Dec 2005 00:42:44 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from europa100@comcast.net) Received: from lm741n.had1.or.comcast.net. (c-24-20-8-31.hsd1.or.comcast.net[24.20.8.31]) by comcast.net (sccrmhc14) with SMTP id <2005121400423801400ak692e>; Wed, 14 Dec 2005 00:42:38 +0000 Date: Tue, 13 Dec 2005 16:42:27 -0800 From: Rob Lytle To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-Id: <20051213164227.0cb04489.europa100@comcast.net> In-Reply-To: <43c190410512131624w56ad2c14k8e65d64d2207dcbd@mail.gmail.com> References: <43c190410512130257l1366b4c3rf56f44f5f451b93@mail.gmail.com> <43c190410512131624w56ad2c14k8e65d64d2207dcbd@mail.gmail.com> X-Mailer: Sylpheed version 2.0.0 (GTK+ 2.6.9; i386-portbld-freebsd6.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: ipfilter question X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 14 Dec 2005 00:42:47 -0000 > > Here's my setup: > > > > /etc/rc.conf > > ipmon_enable="YES" > > ipmon_flags="-Dns" > > > > /etc/syslog.conf > > security.* /var/log/ipfilter.log > > > > > > Make sure you don't have any other security.* facility specified in > > /etc/syslog.conf > > yes, there is no other security.* facility, actually i got it working > to log on my file (/var/log/ipfilter.log) but it also logs on > /var/log/messages. I only want to log on my file. > > > > > > > > > thanks > > > -- > > > Elmer Rivera, http://www.vizcayano.com, http://youand.i.ph I have the problem that ipmon logs to /var/log/messages and nothing goes to /var/log/ipf.log. Even after using the info in this thread. I am using local0 as was suggested for FreeBSD 6.0. Earlier I was using security.* which didn't work either. I suppose that at the least, I need to remove something from the /var/log/messages line. Here is my syslog.conf: *.err;kern.warning;auth.notice;mail.crit /dev/console *.notice;authpriv.none;kern.debug;lpr.info;mail.crit;news.err /var/log/messages local0.* /var/log/ipf.log auth.info;authpriv.info /var/log/auth.log mail.info /var/log/maillog lpr.info /var/log/lpd-errs ftp.info /var/log/xferlog cron.* /var/log/cron *.=debug /var/log/debug.log Thanks, Rob. -- ------------------ http://home.comcast.net/~europa100 A SETI-like Search for Intelligent Life in Central Pa. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Dec 14 00:46:09 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E2FA616A41F for ; Wed, 14 Dec 2005 00:46:09 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from pietro.cerutti@gmail.com) Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.195]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9A92F43D5A for ; Wed, 14 Dec 2005 00:46:08 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from pietro.cerutti@gmail.com) Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 71so1755415wra for ; Tue, 13 Dec 2005 16:46:07 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=SrdZvkPDGaZ2WuBrGNR1s651T0zFKJpGrnYyrFPutqV4pPZOGPbCwZnw91raSksdwqqBb30KKMl9nb2g7DtZ2tP/r863kn3phPjm1w6jCZOLYoW+UFC1u0/EzQy+p3ZtRPB7+YVi5fLyHDeZwj4JqL0dRslpHnZMYs7SgTf2K5Y= Received: by 10.64.153.19 with SMTP id a19mr172823qbe; Tue, 13 Dec 2005 16:46:07 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.64.150.18 with HTTP; Tue, 13 Dec 2005 16:46:07 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: Date: Wed, 14 Dec 2005 01:46:07 +0100 From: Pietro Cerutti To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <20051213233143.GB27219@holestein.holy.cow> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline References: <439F3E96.5090101@ntlworld.com> <20051213215647.GA27582@slackbox.xs4all.nl> <20051213233143.GB27219@holestein.holy.cow> Subject: Re: Off-Topic X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 14 Dec 2005 00:46:10 -0000 I'm for this one: The best way to accellerate a computer running Windows is at 9.81 m/s^2 by Roland It's wonderful! -- Pietro Cerutti Beansidhe - SwiSS Death / Thrash Metal Windows: "Where do you want to go today?" Linux: "Where do you want to go tomorrow?" FreeBSD: "Are you guys coming or what?" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Dec 14 00:50:46 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3263516A41F for ; Wed, 14 Dec 2005 00:50:46 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from wojtek@tensor.3miasto.net) Received: from chylonia.3miasto.net (chylonia.3miasto.net [213.192.74.6]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5250D43D46 for ; Wed, 14 Dec 2005 00:50:41 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from wojtek@tensor.3miasto.net) Received: from chylonia.3miasto.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by chylonia.3miasto.net (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id jBE0oVBx050162; Wed, 14 Dec 2005 01:50:31 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wojtek@tensor.3miasto.net) Received: from localhost (wojtek@localhost) by chylonia.3miasto.net (8.13.4/8.13.4/Submit) with ESMTP id jBE0oTDY050150; Wed, 14 Dec 2005 01:50:31 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wojtek@tensor.3miasto.net) X-Authentication-Warning: chylonia.3miasto.net: wojtek owned process doing -bs Date: Wed, 14 Dec 2005 01:50:29 +0100 (CET) From: Wojciech Puchar X-X-Sender: wojtek@chylonia.3miasto.net To: Gary Kline In-Reply-To: <20051213201543.GA35221@thought.org> Message-ID: <20051214014852.F49870@chylonia.3miasto.net> References: <20051213210155.E13042@chylonia.3miasto.net> <20051213201543.GA35221@thought.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: /etc/mail/local-host-names X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 14 Dec 2005 00:50:46 -0000 >> >> to enable anybody in IPv4 10.0.0.0/8 to relay through this server >> >> 10. >> >> seems not to work. > > I think--but don't *quote* me:) -- that the host-names > file does eactly what ^Cwhostname does in sendmail.cf. > So if your host were named foo, you would put ^foo in > local-host-names. > > Anybody else? > i thought it's like sendmail.cw - even in .mc file it's said that's just different filename. things worked different in NetBSD (sendmail 8.13.3) than in FreeBSD 6.0 (8.13.4). From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Dec 14 00:51:34 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9188816A41F for ; Wed, 14 Dec 2005 00:51:34 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from wojtek@tensor.3miasto.net) Received: from chylonia.3miasto.net (chylonia.3miasto.net [213.192.74.6]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 74E7F43D60 for ; Wed, 14 Dec 2005 00:51:29 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from wojtek@tensor.3miasto.net) Received: from chylonia.3miasto.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by chylonia.3miasto.net (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id jBE0pE03050224; Wed, 14 Dec 2005 01:51:15 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wojtek@tensor.3miasto.net) Received: from localhost (wojtek@localhost) by chylonia.3miasto.net (8.13.4/8.13.4/Submit) with ESMTP id jBE0pCcS050215; Wed, 14 Dec 2005 01:51:14 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wojtek@tensor.3miasto.net) X-Authentication-Warning: chylonia.3miasto.net: wojtek owned process doing -bs Date: Wed, 14 Dec 2005 01:51:12 +0100 (CET) From: Wojciech Puchar X-X-Sender: wojtek@chylonia.3miasto.net To: Dave McCammon In-Reply-To: <20051213203622.71670.qmail@web32812.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <20051214015047.Q49870@chylonia.3miasto.net> References: <20051213203622.71670.qmail@web32812.mail.mud.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: /etc/mail/local-host-names X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 14 Dec 2005 00:51:34 -0000 > I think you need to put that in /etc/mail/access as > > 10 RELAY > > and then do a > #make maps > > Check the Makefile in /etc/mail/ for more on the make > option > > Read /usr/share/sendmail/cf/README for more info. > thanks. so what does local-host-names control? exactly as filename states? what domain does this server handle? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Dec 14 00:56:13 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1825416A41F for ; Wed, 14 Dec 2005 00:56:13 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from destroyingculture@netspace.net.au) Received: from mail.netspace.net.au (thunder.netspace.net.au [203.10.110.71]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 41B5843D90 for ; Wed, 14 Dec 2005 00:56:03 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from destroyingculture@netspace.net.au) Received: from 220-253-52-179.VIC.netspace.net.au (220-253-52-179.VIC.netspace.net.au [220.253.52.179]) by mail.netspace.net.au (Postfix) with ESMTP id 471F249E5B for ; Wed, 14 Dec 2005 11:56:01 +1100 (EST) Date: Wed, 14 Dec 2005 12:01:21 +1100 (EST) From: caleb X-X-Sender: caleb@nebuchadnezzar.my.domain To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20051214114759.S753@nebuchadnezzar.my.domain> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Subject: pine X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 14 Dec 2005 00:56:13 -0000 Hi everyone, I am having some problems setting up pine && .pinerc using FreeBSD 6.0 - STABLE. My ISP uses POP and I am using thier SMTP for outgoing. I spoke to the helpdesk and the POP server does not support ssl. Pine was compiled and installed with support for POP3 here are some lines from my .pinerc; smtp-server=mail.myisp.net.au inbox-path={pop.myisp.net.au/pop3}inbox When I launch pine with the above settings Pine uses INSECURE login and password. Even though the login is INSECURE, I can access my mail and use newsgroups. I have tried using; inbox-path={pop.myisp.net.au/pop3/secure}inbox but when I launch pine I get the error message; 'Can't do secure authentication with this server' If you can offer advice could you please CC me as I am not subscribed to the questions list. I know this question is not an OS question, but I do not like the idea of sending my login details unencrypted through the ISP network. Thankyou, caleb -- There is no spoon From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Dec 14 01:34:27 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7437216A41F for ; Wed, 14 Dec 2005 01:34:27 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from lists@jnielsen.net) Received: from ns1.jnielsen.net (ns1.jnielsen.net [69.55.238.237]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0682D43D46 for ; Wed, 14 Dec 2005 01:34:26 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from lists@jnielsen.net) Received: from stealth.local ([68.54.28.226]) (authenticated bits=0) by ns1.jnielsen.net (8.12.9p2/8.12.9) with ESMTP id jBE1YP1f067182; Tue, 13 Dec 2005 17:34:26 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from lists@jnielsen.net) From: John Nielsen To: Neal Konneker Date: Tue, 13 Dec 2005 20:34:20 -0500 User-Agent: KMail/1.8.3 References: <20051214000012.55093.qmail@web52301.mail.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <20051214000012.55093.qmail@web52301.mail.yahoo.com> X-Face: #X5#Y*q>F:]zT!DegL3z5Xo'^MN[$8k\[4^3rN~wm=s=Uw(sW}R?3b^*f1Wu*.<=?iso-8859-1?q?of=5F4NrS=0A=09P*M/9CpxDo!D6?=)IY1w<9B1jB; tBQf[RU-R<,I)e"$q7N7 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200512132034.20397.lists@jnielsen.net> X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV version 0.87.1, clamav-milter version 0.87 on ns1.jnielsen.net X-Virus-Status: Clean Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: version 6! X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 14 Dec 2005 01:34:27 -0000 After realizing how long I made this little explanation, I decided it might be helpful to someone if I made it available on the freebsd-questions mailing list. List: take the following for what it's worth. On Tuesday 13 December 2005 07:00 pm, ntkonn wrote: > Crap amighty, I just upgraded FreeBSD. When did they > go to 6? Yes, 6. You might want to consider subscribing to the freebsd-announce mailing list (http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-announce). Also, the release of FreeBSD 6.0 does not mean you are running an outdated version of FreeBSD (yet). The 5.x branch is basically in "maintenance" mode, but a 5.5 release is planned. I doubt that 5.x will be retired before 6.1 has been out for a while. > Are you running 6? Anything in it make it > worth the trouble to upgrade? Should I upgrade just > so I don't get too far behind? FreeBSD 6.0-RELEASE breaks the mold for a "dot nought" release in that it is both relatively painless to upgrade and quite stable to run. Take a look at http://www.freebsd.org/releases/, and pay particular attention to the announcement and release notes for 6.0. As for reasons to upgrade, you can determine that yourself from the release notes, etc., but in my view there's no good reason not to. Not lagging behind is also a good way to go in general. The best (read: non-adventurous) way to do that is to follow releases, or possibly by tracking -STABLE. (Releases are merely extra-well-tested, nicely packaged snapshots of the -STABLE branch of development.) (If you're curious, the "adventurous" way to stay current is to track -CURRENT. All new (and possibly untested) development happens in -CURRENT, and is backported to -STABLE only if it doesn't break compatibility and after it has been tested for a set period of time.) See also http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/current-stable.html (and the rest of chapter 20 of the handbook). As I alluded to in my prior e-mail, I am running 6-STABLE both at home and at work with no problems. 6.0-RELEASE is also a good modern-but-not-scary candidate. > uname -a produces: > > FreeBSD asus.konneker 5.4-STABLE FreeBSD 5.4-STABLE > #0: Wed Nov 2 19:13:15 EST 2005 > neal@asus.konneker:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC i386 That means you're running 5-STABLE from a little over a month ago. The gap between 5 and 6 is pretty narrow at this point, but it will probably widen with time (little if any new development is making its way into 5, since 6 is now "stable"). You can do one of four things (actually 5, but the 5th is not recommended): 1) Not upgrade your system. Not recommended for long-term use, but not necessarily a bad thing at any given time. Plan on doing one of the other options, but use this one until it's convenient to upgrade. 2) Continue tracking 5-STABLE. You could update your sources to the latest in the 5.x branch, using cvsup and a src supfile with the RELENG_5 tag. Rebuilding your "world" and kernel at that point would give you a 5-STABLE with today's date. This option is better than (1) above, since it will incorporate security and other critical fixes, but still doesn't get you very far in terms of new functionality or staying up-to-date. This option could also be a useful stepping-stone prior to upgrading to 6, but since your current system is very close to this already it's not strictly necessary. If you wait a while to upgrade to 6, then you will definitely want to upgrade to the most current 5-STABLE beforehand. 3) Upgrade to 6.0-RELEASE. This is most easily done by changing the tag in your src supfile to RELENG_6_0, updating your sources, and rebuilding world and kernel. You will likely also need to rebuild/reinstall most or all of your ports to reflect new versions of the system libraries (this step is only typical of upgrades across major release numbers (like 5 to 6) and is not necessary for minor release upgrades (like 6.0 to 6.1). This is a strong option, since it gives you a well-tested release and keeps you from needing to do a major version upgrade for the entire lifecycle of FreeBSD 6.x. Even if you go with (4) below, you should do this first. 4) Upgrade to 6-STABLE. To do this you would change the tag in your src supfile to RELENG_6. The main advantage of this option is that you can do many incremental updates. This allows you to get new features without waiting for the next release, and also lets you deal with potential bumps in the upgrade path in smaller doses. There is the added risk (compared to (3) of encountering bugs or other hurdles that might not show up in a release, but in my experience that risk is minimal. 5) (Listed for completeness only. Typically only experienced (and/or brave/benevolent/eager, etc.) users wishing to be actively engaged in the development and testing process should do this.) Upgrade to 7-CURRENT. You would do this by changing the tag in your src supfile to "." (just a period, without the quotes), and rebuilding your kernel and world. For best results, upgrade to the latest -STABLE (as in (4) first. This option gives you the latest bleeding-edge version of FreeBSD, and also (by default, at least) adds a number of debugging features to the kernel and other parts of the system. So while technically you can get new features this way before they make it into -STABLE, you also run a much higher risk of encountering bugs. Additionally, the debugging options have a significant negative impact on system performance. IN ALL CASES, you should review /usr/src/UPDATING after updating your sources but before installing the new system. Caveats and changes requiring your attention will appear in this file. JN From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Dec 14 02:00:21 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 09E9A16A41F for ; Wed, 14 Dec 2005 02:00:21 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from lists@webtent.net) Received: from columbus.webtent.org (static-70-110-70-42.tampfl.fios.verizon.net [70.110.70.42]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7F08B43D49 for ; Wed, 14 Dec 2005 02:00:18 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from lists@webtent.net) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by columbus.webtent.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5DDFACFAB5; Tue, 13 Dec 2005 21:00:14 -0500 (EST) From: Robert Fitzpatrick To: Kris Kennaway In-Reply-To: <20051213195454.GA59033@xor.obsecurity.org> References: <1134501177.13444.56.camel@columbus.webtent.org> <20051213195454.GA59033@xor.obsecurity.org> Content-Type: text/plain Date: Tue, 13 Dec 2005 21:00:13 -0500 Message-Id: <1134525613.13444.89.camel@columbus.webtent.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.2.1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: FreeBSD Subject: Re: Multiple CPUs X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: robert@webtent.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 14 Dec 2005 02:00:21 -0000 On Tue, 2005-12-13 at 14:54 -0500, Kris Kennaway wrote: > On Tue, Dec 13, 2005 at 02:12:57PM -0500, Robert Fitzpatrick wrote: > > I guess this means my new server is only using one of my CPUs? > > > > esmtp# grep CPU /var/log/dmesg.today > > CPU: Intel(R) Xeon(TM) CPU 2.40GHz (2399.33-MHz 686-class CPU) > > Hyperthreading: 2 logical CPUs > > cpu0: on acpi0 > > > > Can someone point me to the best doc for enabling use of both CPUs on > > the FreeBSD 5.4 server? I assume the kernel needs built with options. > > FYI, hyperthreading is not a real CPU, and it seems to *really* hurt > performance on most workloads. You'll probably benefit from not using > it. Yeah, I got the SMP option built into the kernel and still with less than 700 messages in the queue, very little else going on beside Postfix with amavis content filtering, my CPU idle is 0% most the time. This is on my freshly built FreeBSD 5.4 with dual Xeon 2.4 processors and a GB RAM. You think that could be related to HT? I will have to make a visit to the data center to remove in BIOS. Here's my top procs: last pid: 2079; load averages: 8.31, 8.91, 8.43 up 0 +00:35:15 20:57:53 149 processes: 13 running, 136 sleeping CPU states: 54.2% user, 0.0% nice, 21.8% system, 8.3% interrupt, 15.8% idle Mem: 747M Active, 85M Inact, 146M Wired, 17M Cache, 111M Buf, 1656K Free Swap: 2021M Total, 213M Used, 1808M Free, 10% Inuse, 636K In, 1496K Out PID USERNAME PRI NICE SIZE RES STATE C TIME WCPU CPU COMMAND 1727 postfix 129 0 7884K 4016K RUN 2 1:14 64.06% 64.06% cleanup 1620 postfix 128 0 7884K 3684K RUN 3 0:52 42.48% 42.48% cleanup 2031 vscan 116 0 227M 125M RUN 0 0:44 31.25% 31.20% perl5.8.6 1892 vscan 116 0 230M 2884K RUN 0 1:44 629.00% 30.71% perl5.8.6 1726 postfix 111 0 7884K 4020K RUN 0 0:57 18.55% 18.55% cleanup 2035 vscan -8 0 228M 123M piperd 0 0:36 17.57% 17.53% perl5.8.6 2042 vscan 111 0 227M 122M RUN 2 0:26 16.86% 16.75% perl5.8.6 1889 vscan -8 0 238M 130M piperd 2 1:41 15.58% 15.58% perl5.8.6 1898 vscan 119 0 229M 125M RUN 0 1:38 13.48% 13.48% perl5.8.6 2018 vscan 105 0 226M 121M RUN 0 0:36 11.43% 11.43% perl5.8.6 2016 vscan 105 0 226M 122M RUN 0 0:35 10.75% 10.74% perl5.8.6 1646 vscan 103 0 232M 129M CPU1 0 3:45 9.42% 9.42% perl5.8.6 1894 vscan 107 0 227M 124M CPU3 0 1:37 7.03% 7.03% perl5.8.6 1659 postfix 4 0 7884K 8K select 0 1:02 0.00% 6.35% cleanup 1724 postfix -20 0 7884K 3908K swread 0 0:47 1.37% 1.37% cleanup 2075 postfix 96 0 7876K 5764K select 0 0:00 1.27% 0.93% cleanup 2077 vscan -16 0 2084K 1024K vmpfw 0 0:00 0.62% 0.34% file 2078 vscan -16 0 2084K 1048K spread 0 0:00 3.00% 0.15% file 565 vscan 20 0 15432K 11336K kserel 0 0:19 1.00% 0.05% clamd 2013 root 4 0 9220K 1772K select 0 0:00 0.05% 0.05% smtpd 488 vscan 4 0 224M 8K select 0 0:31 0.00% 0.00% perl5.8.6 661 root 96 0 3828K 816K select 0 0:04 0.00% 0.00% master 613 mysql 20 0 57308K 2236K kserel 0 0:02 0.00% 0.00% mysqld 1619 postfix 96 0 4348K 932K select 0 0:02 0.00% 0.00% trivial-rewrite 333 root 96 0 1324K 240K select 0 0:02 0.00% 0.00% syslogd 745 root 4 0 7272K 948K select 0 0:01 0.00% 0.00% perl 1599 postfix 4 0 5072K 8K select 0 0:01 0.00% 0.00% qmgr 1882 root 96 0 2596K 1136K CPU0 0 0:01 0.00% 0.00% top 558 root 4 0 26004K 836K select 0 0:01 0.00% 0.00% httpd 722 ldap 20 0 29132K 48K kserel 1 0:01 0.00% 0.00% slapd 1751 root 4 0 9288K 8K select 0 0:01 0.00% 0.00% smtpd 1716 root 20 0 9288K 896K lockf 0 0:01 0.00% 0.00% smtpd 2039 postfix 4 0 4180K 8K select 0 0:01 0.00% 0.00% flush 897 admin 4 0 6144K 348K select 0 0:01 0.00% 0.00% sshd 1747 root 4 0 9276K 8K select 0 0:00 0.00% 0.00% smtpd 1612 root 4 0 9264K 1588K select 0 0:00 0.00% 0.00% smtpd 1717 root 4 0 9396K 1268K kqread 0 0:00 0.00% 0.00% smtpd 1737 root 96 0 9272K 1732K select 0 0:00 0.00% 0.00% smtpd 1715 root 4 0 9252K 1852K select 0 0:00 0.00% 0.00% smtpd 442 root 4 0 1244K 8K select 0 0:00 0.00% 0.00% usbd -- Robert From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Dec 14 02:07:57 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3C5CF16A420 for ; Wed, 14 Dec 2005 02:07:57 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from list-freebsd-2004@morbius.sent.com) Received: from out4.smtp.messagingengine.com (out4.smtp.messagingengine.com [66.111.4.28]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5968543D58 for ; Wed, 14 Dec 2005 02:07:51 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from list-freebsd-2004@morbius.sent.com) Received: from frontend1.internal (mysql-sessions.internal [10.202.2.149]) by frontend1.messagingengine.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2BCFDD24277; Tue, 13 Dec 2005 21:07:49 -0500 (EST) Received: from frontend2.messagingengine.com ([10.202.2.151]) by frontend1.internal (MEProxy); Tue, 13 Dec 2005 21:07:49 -0500 X-Sasl-enc: q3uy2O44EoJ5LUkZaBsUOPoy0qaBZIOWaFShBVxNOilL 1134526067 Received: from gumby.localdomain (88-104-194-35.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com [88.104.194.35]) by frontend2.messagingengine.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D4DC3571482; Tue, 13 Dec 2005 21:07:47 -0500 (EST) From: RW To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Wed, 14 Dec 2005 02:07:42 +0000 User-Agent: KMail/1.8.3 References: <20051214114759.S753@nebuchadnezzar.my.domain> In-Reply-To: <20051214114759.S753@nebuchadnezzar.my.domain> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200512140207.44237.list-freebsd-2004@morbius.sent.com> Cc: caleb Subject: Re: pine X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 14 Dec 2005 02:07:57 -0000 On Wednesday 14 December 2005 01:01, caleb wrote: > Hi everyone, > I am having some problems setting up pine && .pinerc using > FreeBSD 6.0 - STABLE. My ISP uses POP and I am using thier SMTP for > outgoing. I spoke to the helpdesk and the POP server does not support ssl. > .... > I have tried using; > > inbox-path={pop.myisp.net.au/pop3/secure}inbox > > but when I launch pine I get the error message; > > 'Can't do secure authentication with this server' If the server supports neither ssl, nor any form secure authentication, there nothing you can do to protect your password. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Dec 14 02:16:17 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BF3F816A41F for ; Wed, 14 Dec 2005 02:16:17 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from kris@obsecurity.org) Received: from elvis.mu.org (elvis.mu.org [192.203.228.196]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 73ADD43D46 for ; Wed, 14 Dec 2005 02:16:17 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from kris@obsecurity.org) Received: from obsecurity.dyndns.org (elvis.mu.org [192.203.228.196]) by elvis.mu.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4EE311A3C27; Tue, 13 Dec 2005 18:16:17 -0800 (PST) Received: by obsecurity.dyndns.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id A2F3551558; Tue, 13 Dec 2005 21:16:16 -0500 (EST) Date: Tue, 13 Dec 2005 21:16:16 -0500 From: Kris Kennaway To: robert@webtent.com Message-ID: <20051214021616.GA64292@xor.obsecurity.org> References: <1134501177.13444.56.camel@columbus.webtent.org> <20051213195454.GA59033@xor.obsecurity.org> <1134525613.13444.89.camel@columbus.webtent.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="3V7upXqbjpZ4EhLz" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <1134525613.13444.89.camel@columbus.webtent.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Cc: FreeBSD , Kris Kennaway Subject: Re: Multiple CPUs X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 14 Dec 2005 02:16:17 -0000 --3V7upXqbjpZ4EhLz Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Tue, Dec 13, 2005 at 09:00:13PM -0500, Robert Fitzpatrick wrote: > On Tue, 2005-12-13 at 14:54 -0500, Kris Kennaway wrote: > > On Tue, Dec 13, 2005 at 02:12:57PM -0500, Robert Fitzpatrick wrote: > > > I guess this means my new server is only using one of my CPUs? > > >=20 > > > esmtp# grep CPU /var/log/dmesg.today > > > CPU: Intel(R) Xeon(TM) CPU 2.40GHz (2399.33-MHz 686-class CPU) > > > Hyperthreading: 2 logical CPUs > > > cpu0: on acpi0 > > >=20 > > > Can someone point me to the best doc for enabling use of both CPUs on > > > the FreeBSD 5.4 server? I assume the kernel needs built with options. > >=20 > > FYI, hyperthreading is not a real CPU, and it seems to *really* hurt > > performance on most workloads. You'll probably benefit from not using > > it. >=20 > Yeah, I got the SMP option built into the kernel and still with less > than 700 messages in the queue, very little else going on beside Postfix > with amavis content filtering, my CPU idle is 0% most the time. This is > on my freshly built FreeBSD 5.4 with dual Xeon 2.4 processors and a GB > RAM. You think that could be related to HT? I will have to make a visit > to the data center to remove in BIOS. CPU idle time doesn't measure how well your system is performing, it only tells you when it's reaching capacity in its current configuration. You need to compare how much work it can do with/without HTT (e.g. how many messages can it process/hour, if you have a more or less constant input?) Kris --3V7upXqbjpZ4EhLz Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.2 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFDn4BwWry0BWjoQKURAjzfAKCv6qoFX/5LlgKX6E5d39WSfdJLNACgqcAT 6vS+PPCLrWX/EAciip80I+k= =PpdQ -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --3V7upXqbjpZ4EhLz-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Dec 14 02:16:24 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7963D16A41F for ; Wed, 14 Dec 2005 02:16:24 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from parv@pair.com) Received: from mta11.adelphia.net (mta11.adelphia.net [68.168.78.205]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D3C6B43D5A for ; Wed, 14 Dec 2005 02:16:23 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from parv@pair.com) Received: from default.chvlva.adelphia.net ([68.67.248.52]) by mta11.adelphia.net (InterMail vM.6.01.05.02 201-2131-123-102-20050715) with ESMTP id <20051214021623.SJIE4477.mta11.adelphia.net@default.chvlva.adelphia.net>; Tue, 13 Dec 2005 21:16:23 -0500 Received: by default.chvlva.adelphia.net (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 73E77B547; Tue, 13 Dec 2005 21:16:20 -0500 (EST) Date: Tue, 13 Dec 2005 21:16:20 -0500 From: Parv To: Rob Lytle Message-ID: <20051214021620.GA31453@holestein.holy.cow> Mail-Followup-To: Rob Lytle , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <43c190410512130257l1366b4c3rf56f44f5f451b93@mail.gmail.com> <43c190410512131624w56ad2c14k8e65d64d2207dcbd@mail.gmail.com> <20051213164227.0cb04489.europa100@comcast.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20051213164227.0cb04489.europa100@comcast.net> Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: ipfilter question X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 14 Dec 2005 02:16:24 -0000 in message <20051213164227.0cb04489.europa100@comcast.net>, wrote Rob Lytle thusly... > > > > > > Here's my setup: ... > > > in /etc/syslog.conf > > > > yes, there is no other security.* facility, actually i got it > > working Please keep the attribution & attribute the respective authors. > I have the problem that ipmon logs to /var/log/messages and nothing > goes to /var/log/ipf.log. Even after using the info in this thread. > I am using local0 as was suggested for FreeBSD 6.0. Earlier I was > using security.* which didn't work either. I suppose that at the > least, I need to remove something from the /var/log/messages line. > ... > *.notice;authpriv.none;kern.debug;lpr.info;mail.crit;news.err /var/log/messages > local0.* /var/log/ipf.log Like "authpriv.none" to stop auth messages going into "/var/log/messages", you will need to add "local0.none" (or replace "local0" w/ whatever the actual facility is used) after "*.notice;". According to ipmon(8) on 5.4, passed & logged packets are logged w/ level of 'notice'. So you should be seeing only the passed packets in '/var/log/messages'. Rest of the messages, will go wherever (local0|security|*).(info|warn|err) messages go. Or, you could ... - give a file name to ipmon(8) to log messages in - remove the "-s" option to not to log via syslogd(8) - put the .none, in "/etc/syslog.cong", to avoid other files receiving ipf messages. - adjust /etc/newsyslog.conf to properly rotate the ipmon log files. Don't forget to read up on syslog.conf(5), newsyslog.conf(5), and ipmon(8) in any case. - Parv -- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Dec 14 02:46:11 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9A4B916A41F for ; Wed, 14 Dec 2005 02:46:11 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from elmer.rivera@gmail.com) Received: from xproxy.gmail.com (xproxy.gmail.com [66.249.82.199]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1C43643D55 for ; Wed, 14 Dec 2005 02:46:11 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from elmer.rivera@gmail.com) Received: by xproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id t12so9456wxc for ; Tue, 13 Dec 2005 18:46:10 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=H6vPRkjzlrhytjN4p2kAWTbE44nHmvkYBFbUXMUgC+IEL6YS5dIZBpbumzm6d0RixgT0yZ4ORsbJBCD4yJsYlgN7/m4mgroxP87npHRzRYOgO0z7EydZYtSCEBz1v6Uz6V6wm6o8Gb4oQyC77q3JIjy743XiUOjnRTIdy/LyYKc= Received: by 10.70.87.12 with SMTP id k12mr138018wxb; Tue, 13 Dec 2005 18:46:09 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.70.37.11 with HTTP; Tue, 13 Dec 2005 18:46:09 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <43c190410512131846r1f039affmcf03518b87591123@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 14 Dec 2005 10:46:09 +0800 From: Elmer Rivera To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <20051214021620.GA31453@holestein.holy.cow> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 Content-Disposition: inline References: <43c190410512130257l1366b4c3rf56f44f5f451b93@mail.gmail.com> <43c190410512131624w56ad2c14k8e65d64d2207dcbd@mail.gmail.com> <20051213164227.0cb04489.europa100@comcast.net> <20051214021620.GA31453@holestein.holy.cow> Subject: Re: ipfilter question X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 14 Dec 2005 02:46:11 -0000 R290IGl0IHdvcmtpbmcuIGZvcmdvdCB0byBhZGQgc2VjdXJpdHkubm9uZSBhZnRlciAqLm5vdGlj ZTsKVGhhbmtzIGd1eXMuLi4KLS0KRWxtZXIgUml2ZXJhLCBodHRwOi8vd3d3LnZpemNheWFuby5j b20sIGh0dHA6Ly95b3VhbmQuaS5waAo= From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Dec 14 03:07:22 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3BF9316A41F for ; Wed, 14 Dec 2005 03:07:22 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from destroyingculture@netspace.net.au) Received: from mail.netspace.net.au (cumulus.netspace.net.au [203.10.110.72]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 795A343D4C for ; Wed, 14 Dec 2005 03:07:21 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from destroyingculture@netspace.net.au) Received: from 220-253-52-179.VIC.netspace.net.au (220-253-52-179.VIC.netspace.net.au [220.253.52.179]) by mail.netspace.net.au (Postfix) with ESMTP id 206207C946; Wed, 14 Dec 2005 14:07:18 +1100 (EST) Date: Wed, 14 Dec 2005 14:12:38 +1100 (EST) From: caleb X-X-Sender: caleb@nebuchadnezzar.my.domain To: RW In-Reply-To: <200512140207.44237.list-freebsd-2004@morbius.sent.com> Message-ID: <20051214141013.D919@nebuchadnezzar.my.domain> References: <20051214114759.S753@nebuchadnezzar.my.domain> <200512140207.44237.list-freebsd-2004@morbius.sent.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: caleb , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: pine X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 14 Dec 2005 03:07:22 -0000 On Wed, 14 Dec 2005, RW wrote: > If the server supports neither ssl, nor any form secure authentication, there > nothing you can do to protect your password. > Hi RW, Thanks for your reply. Would IPSEC be an option for securing my login details or kerberos? caleb -- There is no spoon From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Dec 14 03:17:39 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B1FDE16A41F for ; Wed, 14 Dec 2005 03:17:39 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jeff.hamann@forestinformatics.com) Received: from stimpy.forestinformatics.com (cvo-cr1-200-239.peak.org [69.59.200.239]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 80D7343D69 for ; Wed, 14 Dec 2005 03:17:36 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jeff.hamann@forestinformatics.com) Received: from rodan ([192.168.0.10]) by stimpy.forestinformatics.com (8.12.9/8.12.9) with SMTP id jBE3HWOn040805; Tue, 13 Dec 2005 19:17:33 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jeff.hamann@forestinformatics.com) Message-ID: <005d01c6005c$ec698f50$0a00a8c0@rodan> From: "Jeff D. Hamann" To: "Tino Boss" , References: <004701c60007$dc095cd0$0a00a8c0@rodan> <439F17A0.3090307@student.unibe.ch> Date: Tue, 13 Dec 2005 19:17:26 -0800 Organization: Forest Informatics, Inc. MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.64 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.64 (2004-01-11) on stimpy.forestinformatics.com Cc: Subject: Re: can't mount msdos fs on freebsd6? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: "Jeff D. Hamann" List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 14 Dec 2005 03:17:39 -0000 ah... that's the ticket! thanks! jeff. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tino Boss" To: Cc: "Jeff D. Hamann" Sent: Tuesday, December 13, 2005 10:49 AM Subject: Re: can't mount msdos fs on freebsd6? > Jeff D. Hamann wrote: > >> mothra# mount -t msdos /dev/ad0s2 /data >> mount_msdosfs: /dev/ad0s2: Invalid argument > > I remember having had a similar problem and it was just a that it was an > extended partition and somehow it was not displayed with the correct > number in some utility. If that's your case you might just need another > device-name. I think numbering for extended partitions starts at 5 (eg. > ad0s5). > > regards > Tino > >> > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Dec 14 03:22:14 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CE0D316A41F for ; Wed, 14 Dec 2005 03:22:14 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from mac@orthanc.st.hmc.edu) Received: from orthanc.st.hmc.edu (orthanc.ST.HMC.Edu [134.173.56.118]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 719BB43D5A for ; Wed, 14 Dec 2005 03:22:14 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from mac@orthanc.st.hmc.edu) Received: from orthanc.st.hmc.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by orthanc.st.hmc.edu (8.13.3/8.13.3) with ESMTP id jBE3MdA0001508 for ; Tue, 13 Dec 2005 19:22:39 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mac@orthanc.st.hmc.edu) Received: (from mac@localhost) by orthanc.st.hmc.edu (8.13.3/8.13.3/Submit) id jBE3Mdrs001507 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Tue, 13 Dec 2005 19:22:39 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mac) Date: Tue, 13 Dec 2005 19:22:39 -0800 From: Mac Mason To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20051214032239.GB994@orthanc.st.hmc.edu> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <20051214114759.S753@nebuchadnezzar.my.domain> <200512140207.44237.list-freebsd-2004@morbius.sent.com> <20051214141013.D919@nebuchadnezzar.my.domain> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="tsOsTdHNUZQcU9Ye" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20051214141013.D919@nebuchadnezzar.my.domain> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.11 Subject: Re: pine X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 14 Dec 2005 03:22:14 -0000 --tsOsTdHNUZQcU9Ye Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Wed, Dec 14, 2005 at 02:12:38PM +1100, caleb wrote: > Would IPSEC be an option for securing my login=20 > details or kerberos? Nope. Unless the ISP's mail server supports some form of encryption, there's nothing you can do.=20 On the other hand, your desktop machine is probably only about two hops from your mail server, and those are inside the ISP's data center, so there isn't much chance for somebody to sniff your credentials. --Mac --tsOsTdHNUZQcU9Ye Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.2 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFDn4//1AphoTGXiN0RAkoaAJ4802Mh/5c28Qozyw7Ip3NQpd2SVgCcDP5m azSJts6VjQzqmQC8xqWpdtM= =/Dxx -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --tsOsTdHNUZQcU9Ye-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Dec 14 03:24:38 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: questions@FreeBSD.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 792D216A41F for ; Wed, 14 Dec 2005 03:24:38 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from admin@linuxserv.co.il) Received: from mtaout4.012.net.il (mtaout4.012.net.il [84.95.2.10]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6B32643D6A for ; Wed, 14 Dec 2005 03:24:30 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from admin@linuxserv.co.il) Received: from crow2004 ([80.178.157.129]) by i_mtaout4.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2004.12) with SMTP id <0IRG00I4DXIMBLF1@i_mtaout4.012.net.il> for questions@FreeBSD.org; Wed, 14 Dec 2005 05:25:35 +0200 (IST) Date: Wed, 14 Dec 2005 05:24:28 +0200 From: YairNet LinuxServ To: questions@FreeBSD.org Message-id: <007201c6005d$e4763b30$0200000a@crow2004> MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal X-Mailman-Approved-At: Wed, 14 Dec 2005 03:28:48 +0000 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1255 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: Subject: you need mirror from israel? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 14 Dec 2005 03:24:38 -0000 Hello we Compay WebHosting (Www.linuxserv.co.il) You need to mirror freebsd from israel ,if yes give me help so mirror good day. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Dec 14 03:44:49 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7FA7516A41F for ; Wed, 14 Dec 2005 03:44:49 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from bsdlists@sbcglobal.net) Received: from smtp106.sbc.mail.mud.yahoo.com (smtp106.sbc.mail.mud.yahoo.com [68.142.198.205]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 0FCC543D5C for ; Wed, 14 Dec 2005 03:44:48 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from bsdlists@sbcglobal.net) Received: (qmail 65149 invoked from network); 14 Dec 2005 03:44:48 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?127.0.0.1?) (calartstech@sbcglobal.net@68.127.38.82 with plain) by smtp106.sbc.mail.mud.yahoo.com with SMTP; 14 Dec 2005 03:44:48 -0000 Message-ID: <439F9533.5030002@sbcglobal.net> Date: Tue, 13 Dec 2005 19:44:51 -0800 From: Jose Borquez User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.7 (Windows/20050923) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: FreeBSD Questions group Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: IMAP-UW Security question X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 14 Dec 2005 03:44:49 -0000 Just recently installed IMAP-UW through ports and once the install finished I got the following security message: SECURITY REPORT: This port has installed the following binaries which execute with increased privileges. /usr/local/libexec/mlock What can I do to minimize this security risk? Do I create an mlock user? Thanks in advance, Jose From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Dec 14 03:50:46 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4E8A316A41F for ; Wed, 14 Dec 2005 03:50:46 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from bob@bobleeit.net) Received: from fed1rmmtao04.cox.net (fed1rmmtao04.cox.net [68.230.241.35]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D4B1F43D46 for ; Wed, 14 Dec 2005 03:50:45 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from bob@bobleeit.net) Received: from mach.bobleeit.net ([24.251.222.159]) by fed1rmmtao04.cox.net (InterMail vM.6.01.05.02 201-2131-123-102-20050715) with SMTP id <20051214034905.SXQ17690.fed1rmmtao04.cox.net@mach.bobleeit.net> for ; Tue, 13 Dec 2005 22:49:05 -0500 Received: by mach.bobleeit.net (sSMTP sendmail emulation); Tue, 13 Dec 2005 20:50:39 -0700 From: "Bob Lee" Date: Tue, 13 Dec 2005 20:50:39 -0700 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20051214035039.GA23514@mach.bobleeit.net> References: <1134501177.13444.56.camel@columbus.webtent.org> <20051213195454.GA59033@xor.obsecurity.org> <1134525613.13444.89.camel@columbus.webtent.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="PEIAKu/WMn1b1Hv9" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <1134525613.13444.89.camel@columbus.webtent.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.11 Subject: Re: Multiple CPUs X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Bob Lee List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 14 Dec 2005 03:50:46 -0000 --PEIAKu/WMn1b1Hv9 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Quoting Robert Fitzpatrick : > Here's my top procs: >=20 > last pid: 2079; load averages: 8.31, 8.91, 8.43 up 0 > +00:35:15 20:57:53 > 149 processes: 13 running, 136 sleeping Robert, FWIW, I did some research a short time ago on utilization and other aspects of watching performance and I found that 'load' provided better insight FOR ME into what the system is doing. I wasn't able to find much on load, but if I understand it correctly, part of what it shows is the queue on the processor(s). 8 seems high, even by today's standards and real high by the standards of yesteryear when the load function was originally created. You may want to spend some time researching load and see what you come up with. Bob Lee --=20 Robert Lee PGP: D3EE2268 pgp.mit.edu I prefer email in plain text --PEIAKu/WMn1b1Hv9 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.2 (NetBSD) iD8DBQFDn5aPX1c+K9PuImkRAlL+AJ9dUBdX3T3mVgQeE2ZQGzgM4xWAGgCdGmWs 3gw7fiz4PPbiwCEJCVUu0+E= =KEvJ -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --PEIAKu/WMn1b1Hv9-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Dec 14 03:51:07 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 23B2816A41F for ; Wed, 14 Dec 2005 03:51:07 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from steinex@scott.blazing.de) Received: from scott.blazing.de (scott.blazing.de [80.86.187.157]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BDF3C43D46 for ; Wed, 14 Dec 2005 03:51:06 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from steinex@scott.blazing.de) Received: by scott.blazing.de (Postfix, from userid 508) id D5E83752EA; Wed, 14 Dec 2005 04:51:04 +0100 (CET) Date: Wed, 14 Dec 2005 04:51:04 +0100 From: Frank Steinborn To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20051214035104.GA27949@scott.blazing.de> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <439F9533.5030002@sbcglobal.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <439F9533.5030002@sbcglobal.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.10i Subject: Re: IMAP-UW Security question X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 14 Dec 2005 03:51:07 -0000 Jose Borquez wrote: > SECURITY REPORT: > This port has installed the following binaries which execute with > increased privileges. > /usr/local/libexec/mlock > > What can I do to minimize this security risk? Do I create an mlock user? In fact, every port that installs a suid-binary will show this warning. Creating a user won't help, mlock will run as root (that is what it's about). Just keep the port up-to-date and it's ok. Frank From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Dec 14 04:44:44 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8A35D16A41F for ; Wed, 14 Dec 2005 04:44:44 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from user@dhp.com) Received: from shell.dhp.com (shell.dhp.com [199.245.105.1]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1BABB43D5A for ; Wed, 14 Dec 2005 04:44:44 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from user@dhp.com) Received: by shell.dhp.com (Postfix, from userid 896) id E339931365; Tue, 13 Dec 2005 23:44:42 -0500 (EST) Date: Tue, 13 Dec 2005 23:44:42 -0500 (EST) From: user To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Subject: I need a better way to loop in the shell... X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 14 Dec 2005 04:44:44 -0000 I always do loops in /bin/sh like this: for f in `cat file` ; do rm -rf $f ; done Easy. I like doing it like this. The problem is, when I am dealing with an input list that has multiple words per line, this chops it up and treats every word as a new line... For instance, lets say I have a file full of filenames, like this: # cat file 10,000 Maniacs MTV Unplugged - 01 - These Are Days.mp3 10,000 Maniacs MTV Unplugged - 02 - Eat For Two.mp3 10,000 Maniacs MTV Unplugged - 03 - Candy Everybody Wants.mp3 and I try to use the above loop on it, it thinks that every word is a line ... the above loop will attempt to delete the following files: 10,000 Maniacs MTV Unplugged - 01 - These (and so on) Even if I quote the variable $f, like: for f in `cat file` ; do rm -rf "$f" ; done it still does the same thing. ----- So my question is, what is a nice simple way to loop in the shell, as close to what I am doing above as possible, that does not have this problem ? Should I just be using something other than `cat` ? Or what ? THanks. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Dec 14 05:00:31 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 76D3416A41F; Wed, 14 Dec 2005 05:00:31 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from rol@robert-eckardt.de) Received: from natfrord.rzone.de (natfrord.rzone.de [81.169.145.161]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9F6F543D5E; Wed, 14 Dec 2005 05:00:24 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from rol@robert-eckardt.de) Received: from postit (p54B12B30.dip0.t-ipconnect.de [84.177.43.48]) (authenticated bits=0) by post.webmailer.de (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id jBE50EMx000032; Wed, 14 Dec 2005 06:00:15 +0100 (MET) Received: from www.eckardt.org (localhost.eckardt.org [127.0.0.1]) by postit (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id jBE50FDh037898; Wed, 14 Dec 2005 06:00:15 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from rol@robert-eckardt.de) From: "Robert Eckardt" To: user , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Wed, 14 Dec 2005 06:00:15 +0100 Message-Id: <20051214045249.M61301@Robert-Eckardt.de> In-Reply-To: References: X-Mailer: Open WebMail 2.21 20031110 X-OriginatingIP: 192.168.182.11 (roberte) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Cc: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: I need a better way to loop in the shell... X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 14 Dec 2005 05:00:31 -0000 On Tue, 13 Dec 2005 23:44:42 -0500 (EST), user wrote > I always do loops in /bin/sh like this: > > for f in `cat file` ; do rm -rf $f ; done Hi, try instead: cat file | while read f ; do rm -f "$f" ; done In your command `file' is presented as 10,000 Maniacs MTV Unplugged - 01 - These Are Days.mp3 10,000 Maniacs MTV Unplugged - 02 - Eat For Two.mp3 10,000 Maniacs MTV Unplugged - 03 - Candy Everybody Wants.mp3 ... while the for-loop cuts the arguments at spaces. read reads the rest of the line in its last (and only -- in this case) argument into a single variable. Regards, Robert > > Easy. I like doing it like this. > > The problem is, when I am dealing with an input list that has > multiple words per line, this chops it up and treats every word as a > new line... > > For instance, lets say I have a file full of filenames, like this: > > # cat file > > 10,000 Maniacs MTV Unplugged - 01 - These Are Days.mp3 > 10,000 Maniacs MTV Unplugged - 02 - Eat For Two.mp3 > 10,000 Maniacs MTV Unplugged - 03 - Candy Everybody Wants.mp3 > > and I try to use the above loop on it, it thinks that every word is > a line ... the above loop will attempt to delete the following files: > > 10,000 > Maniacs > MTV > Unplugged > - > 01 > - > These > > (and so on) > > Even if I quote the variable $f, like: > > for f in `cat file` ; do rm -rf "$f" ; done > > it still does the same thing. > > ----- > > So my question is, what is a nice simple way to loop in the shell, as > close to what I am doing above as possible, that does not have this > problem ? Should I just be using something other than `cat` ? Or > what ? > > THanks. > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" -- Dr. Robert Eckardt --- Robert.Eckardt@Robert-Eckardt.de From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Dec 14 05:01:22 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4D0E516A41F for ; Wed, 14 Dec 2005 05:01:22 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from kris@obsecurity.org) Received: from elvis.mu.org (elvis.mu.org [192.203.228.196]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A96F443D45 for ; Wed, 14 Dec 2005 05:01:20 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from kris@obsecurity.org) Received: from obsecurity.dyndns.org (elvis.mu.org [192.203.228.196]) by elvis.mu.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6C7091A3C22; Tue, 13 Dec 2005 21:01:20 -0800 (PST) Received: by obsecurity.dyndns.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id BA40651432; Wed, 14 Dec 2005 00:01:19 -0500 (EST) Date: Wed, 14 Dec 2005 00:01:19 -0500 From: Kris Kennaway To: Bob Lee Message-ID: <20051214050119.GA67011@xor.obsecurity.org> References: <1134501177.13444.56.camel@columbus.webtent.org> <20051213195454.GA59033@xor.obsecurity.org> <1134525613.13444.89.camel@columbus.webtent.org> <20051214035039.GA23514@mach.bobleeit.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="VbJkn9YxBvnuCH5J" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20051214035039.GA23514@mach.bobleeit.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Multiple CPUs X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 14 Dec 2005 05:01:22 -0000 --VbJkn9YxBvnuCH5J Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Tue, Dec 13, 2005 at 08:50:39PM -0700, Bob Lee wrote: > Quoting Robert Fitzpatrick : > > Here's my top procs: > >=20 > > last pid: 2079; load averages: 8.31, 8.91, 8.43 up 0 > > +00:35:15 20:57:53 > > 149 processes: 13 running, 136 sleeping >=20 > Robert, > FWIW, I did some research a short time ago on utilization and other > aspects of watching performance and I found that 'load' provided > better insight FOR ME into what the system is doing. I wasn't able to > find much on load, but if I understand it correctly, part of what it > shows is the queue on the processor(s). 8 seems high, even by today's > standards and real high by the standards of yesteryear when the load > function was originally created. You may want to spend some time > researching load and see what you come up with. Load just measures how many processes want to run, not how fast or slow they're running. There is no substitute for actually measuring how much work your system can get done on your particular workload. Kris --VbJkn9YxBvnuCH5J Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.2 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFDn6cfWry0BWjoQKURAhryAKC68gN99GTeAzBAuKchbYWplOSbGwCfZV7r RhiuFt/UDh7y0p6ZP2xmHao= =TeVz -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --VbJkn9YxBvnuCH5J-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Dec 14 05:08:04 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0F2F616A41F for ; Wed, 14 Dec 2005 05:08:04 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from bsdlists@sbcglobal.net) Received: from smtp107.sbc.mail.mud.yahoo.com (smtp107.sbc.mail.mud.yahoo.com [68.142.198.206]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 927B043D49 for ; Wed, 14 Dec 2005 05:08:03 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from bsdlists@sbcglobal.net) Received: (qmail 39227 invoked from network); 14 Dec 2005 05:08:02 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?127.0.0.1?) (calartstech@sbcglobal.net@68.127.38.82 with plain) by smtp107.sbc.mail.mud.yahoo.com with SMTP; 14 Dec 2005 05:08:02 -0000 Message-ID: <439FA8B7.7090703@sbcglobal.net> Date: Tue, 13 Dec 2005 21:08:07 -0800 From: Jose Borquez User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.7 (Windows/20050923) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: FreeBSD Questions group Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: When using make install for php5 it fails X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 14 Dec 2005 05:08:04 -0000 When attempting to install php5 from ports it attempts to download, but I get the following errors: Attempting to fetch from ftp://ftp.FreeBSD.org/pub/FreeBSD/ports/distfiles/. fetch: ftp://ftp.FreeBSD.org/pub/FreeBSD/ports/distfiles/php-5.1.1.tar.bz2: File unavailable (e.g., file not found, no access) => Couldn't fetch it - please try to retrieve this => port manually into /usr/ports/distfiles/ and try again. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/ports/lang/php5. Is it asking me to cd into the /distfiles/ directory and then manually ftp the file? If so, what do I need to run in order to install it? Thanks in advance, Jose From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Dec 14 05:31:33 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B27CB16A41F for ; Wed, 14 Dec 2005 05:31:33 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from freebsd@meijome.net) Received: from sigma.octantis.com.au (ns2.octantis.com.au [207.44.189.124]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1277243D4C for ; Wed, 14 Dec 2005 05:31:30 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from freebsd@meijome.net) Received: (qmail 21537 invoked from network); 14 Dec 2005 16:31:30 +1100 Received: from andromeda.lef.com.au (HELO ?10.168.101.24?) (210.8.93.2) by sigma.octantis.com.au with (DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA encrypted) SMTP; 14 Dec 2005 16:31:30 +1100 Message-ID: <439FAE2D.8000206@meijome.net> Date: Wed, 14 Dec 2005 16:31:25 +1100 From: Norberto Meijome User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.7 (Windows/20050923) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: user References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: I need a better way to loop in the shell... X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 14 Dec 2005 05:31:33 -0000 user wrote: > I always do loops in /bin/sh like this: > > for f in `cat file` ; do rm -rf $f ; done > > Easy. I like doing it like this. > > The problem is, when I am dealing with an input list that has multiple > words per line, this chops it up and treats every word as a new line... > > For instance, lets say I have a file full of filenames, like this: > > # cat file > > 10,000 Maniacs MTV Unplugged - 01 - These Are Days.mp3 > 10,000 Maniacs MTV Unplugged - 02 - Eat For Two.mp3 > 10,000 Maniacs MTV Unplugged - 03 - Candy Everybody Wants.mp3 > > and I try to use the above loop on it, it thinks that every word is a line > ... the above loop will attempt to delete the following files: > > 10,000 > Maniacs > MTV > Unplugged > - > 01 > - > These > > (and so on) > > Even if I quote the variable $f, like: > > for f in `cat file` ; do rm -rf "$f" ; done > > it still does the same thing. > > ----- > > So my question is, what is a nice simple way to loop in the shell, as > close to what I am doing above as possible, that does not have this > problem ? Should I just be using something other than `cat` ? Or what ? you can redefine the character(s) used by your shell for delimiting words after expansion. In Bash , this is the env var IFS. so , if you know there are no ;, you can say export IFS=";" [your loop here] export IFS= and you should be set. man bash for more info. Beto From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Dec 14 05:34:34 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6E6D616A41F for ; Wed, 14 Dec 2005 05:34:34 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) Received: from mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com (mail.web-strider.com [65.75.192.90]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BFFF243D5E for ; Wed, 14 Dec 2005 05:34:33 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) Received: from tedwin2k (nat-rtr.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [65.75.197.130]) by mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com (8.11.1/8.11.1) with SMTP id jBE5bfb04999; Tue, 13 Dec 2005 21:37:41 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) From: "Ted Mittelstaedt" To: "Kiffin Gish" , Date: Tue, 13 Dec 2005 21:34:28 -0800 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1250" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.6604 (9.0.2911.0) In-Reply-To: <000201c5ffc5$ce8bdd40$2101a8c0@ZGISH> Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1506 Cc: Subject: RE: Lousy network performance ... X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 14 Dec 2005 05:34:34 -0000 Turn on SNMP on your router plugged into the adsl modem and use a tool like mrtg to graph the circuit utilization. Also, access your adsl modem's error counters and find out what your signal to noise ratio is, what your received decibel level is, if your taking errors, and such. Some of the consumer modems do not have these counters accessible and can only be queried via the DSLAM operator. Your service provider is right to push the problem back to you because it almost certainly is not their network. If it was their network you would notice a definite change at different time of days - if they are overloaded then at 4:00am you should get lightning speed. If your DSL sucks at that time then it's your problem, not their network. Unfortunately for you, however, your service provider didn't explain to you what you need to do to properly troubleshoot this. It could possibly be that you ASSUMED the problem was their network and pissed them off when you called in. I would suggest you call them again, politely, and ask, not demand, that they check signal levels and error counters on your phone line. If they can't do this then have them refer you to the telco that can. One other piece of advice for you, if your goal is to "prove" the ISP is wrong then you ought to just find another ISP. Your goal should be to find out the cause of the slowness, not in assessing blame. If your using a consumer ISP it is likely the first level tech support people probably cannot help you since their main job is helping people fix their misguided PC desktops, and they usually aren't even allowed to touch the back end equipment. But they can in fact hurt you badly by simply not passing you to the upper-level tech people who could help you. So, be nice to them. Ted >-----Original Message----- >From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org >[mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]On Behalf Of Kiffin Gish >Sent: Tuesday, December 13, 2005 1:16 AM >To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org >Subject: Lousy network performance ... > > >I am having problems with a slow Internet DSL-connection, >especially while >surfing around the web. > >My service-provider claims that his network is just fine (of >course!) and >that the problem is because of all the 'so-called junk' I have >configured on >my home network on my side of the connection. > >On my side of the adsl-modem/router I have a router which is connected >directly to two Windows XP desktops, via a switch to two >FreeBSD machines >(webserver and fileserver) and via a wireless link my combo >FreeBSD/Windows >XP laptop. I have Samba running for file exchange bweteen the >Windows and >FreeBSD boxes and I have port 80 opened on the >adsl-moden/router to allow >access to a couple of web sites I am running. > >Is there some kind of way to prove my ISP is wrong by doing a >trace? What >tools are available? How can I demonstrate that the bottleneck is not my >home network but the DSL-connection? > >Thanks a lot in advance. > >-- >Kiffin Rex Gish >Gouda, The Netherlands > >_______________________________________________ >freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list >http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions >To unsubscribe, send any mail to >"freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > >-- >No virus found in this incoming message. >Checked by AVG Free Edition. >Version: 7.1.371 / Virus Database: 267.13.13/198 - Release >Date: 12/12/2005 > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Dec 14 05:51:26 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 479D816A41F for ; Wed, 14 Dec 2005 05:51:26 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) Received: from mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com (mail.web-strider.com [65.75.192.90]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 61CFE43D49 for ; Wed, 14 Dec 2005 05:51:25 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) Received: from tedwin2k (nat-rtr.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [65.75.197.130]) by mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com (8.11.1/8.11.1) with SMTP id jBE5sUb05074; Tue, 13 Dec 2005 21:54:30 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) From: "Ted Mittelstaedt" To: "Gayn Winters" , "'Winelfred G. Pasamba'" , "'Yance Kowara'" Date: Tue, 13 Dec 2005 21:51:16 -0800 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.6604 (9.0.2911.0) In-Reply-To: <043901c5fffc$c610fa10$6501a8c0@workdog> Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1506 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: RE: FreeBSD router two DSL connections X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 14 Dec 2005 05:51:26 -0000 >-----Original Message----- >From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org >[mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]On Behalf Of Gayn Winters >Sent: Tuesday, December 13, 2005 7:49 AM >To: 'Ted Mittelstaedt'; 'Winelfred G. Pasamba'; 'Yance Kowara' >Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org >Subject: RE: FreeBSD router two DSL connections > > >> -----Original Message----- >> From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org >> [mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org] On Behalf Of Ted >> Mittelstaedt >> >> >-----Original Message----- >> >From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org >> >[mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]On Behalf Of Winelfred G. >> >Pasamba >> >Sent: Monday, December 12, 2005 8:26 AM >> >To: Yance Kowara >> >Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org >> >Subject: Re: FreeBSD router two DSL connections >> > >> >i use pfSense (www.pfsense.com) >> > > >> Sigh. >> >> THIS IS NOT LOAD BALANCING PLEASE QUIT BEING SLOPPY WITH YOUR >> NETWORKING TERMS!!!! >> >> I refer you to the pfsense website itself: >> >http://faq.pfsense.org/index.php?sid=13525&lang=en&action=artikel&cat=6& >id=18&artlang=en > >> "Load balancing is on per connection basis, not a bandwidth basis. >All >> packets in a given flow will go over only one link." > >> In other words, they are redefining the term "load balancing" into >> something that is not understood by any previously accepted definition >> of load balancing, so that people like you can think your getting >> something for nothing. > >> Once more - FTP to a remote site with your dual DSL links. Copy >> a FreeBSD ISO file to there. Watch as the upload speed IS NO FASTER >> THAN ONE OF THE LINKS. > >> Ted > >I just looked at the pfsense site, and for an Internet Café, it looks >promising. Two DSL lines to different ISP's does give a small amount of >redundancy. Whether you use two routers or pfsense, you get some sort >of "load sharing" but not "load balancing." A more appropriate >performance test for an Internet Café would be: > >Take a dozen PC's each to transfer a FreeBSD 6.0R ISO file from a dozen >different mirror sites. Start them at the same time and see how long >the all of the transfers take. > >You can test one DSL connection at N kbps and two DSL connections both >at N kbps. You'll undoubtedly see the effect of "load sharing" if the >dozen PC's are more or less evenly divided over the two DSL lines. > >The redundancy isn't great, and you will pay for it. Namely, two N kbps >connections will cost you more than one 2N connection. If you ran my >benchmark on a 2N connection you might actually see an improvement over >two N kbps connections due to to its inherent load balancing. In any >case, with a single (or a small number) of users (Ted's benchmark test) >you would definitely see an improvement over two N kbps connections. > >Now the question: is a faster AND cheaper 2N connection a better setup >than two N kbps connections for our fabled Internet Café? > NO. As I pointed out the MOST COMMON failure mode on DSL is SLOWNESS not DISCONNECTS. If you have a 2N connection and one of the DSL modems starts going gunnysack, you are really going to have to know your stuff to be able to detect this and fix it. If the modem picks 9:35pm at night to do this, or some other inconvenient time, like seems to be the normal time for failures to happen, I guarentee your not going to get anyone at the ISP who knows shit from shinola to help you, and your going to be spinning your wheels. For the fabled Internet Cafe, really and truly and honestly, the crude solution that the previous owner worked out is the best - it is easy for relatively unsophisticated people (such as the minimum wage high school student you hired to watch the place after school) to troubleshoot, it is easy to get assistance from the ISP on the failed leg, since the configuration is very basic and standard, and it is dirt cheap. I realize the temptation to mess with a running setup is strong, and the temptation to change around something you buy so as to put your own stamp on it is even stronger. But it is a great way to have terrible monsters come storming out of the closet that the existing config was developed to work around. >I'd personally go with the 2N connection. Almost all the time it would >be better. Most large ISPs, for a little more money of course, will >give you a faster response time on repairs. The ISP might even provide >a bank of modems and you could implement multilink PPP as your backup. > 2N is great if you need to ship large data items around and your site is way far away from the DSLAM. But it is more complex and so you need to be using it when the big guns both at the ISP and the organization are not in bed - meaning 9-5 - so that if problems happen they are available to get them solved. Think office environments for this. Ted From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Dec 14 06:01:00 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 243C816A41F for ; Wed, 14 Dec 2005 06:01:00 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) Received: from mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com (mail.web-strider.com [65.75.192.90]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7822343D60 for ; Wed, 14 Dec 2005 06:00:58 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) Received: from tedwin2k (nat-rtr.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [65.75.197.130]) by mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com (8.11.1/8.11.1) with SMTP id jBE62db05102; Tue, 13 Dec 2005 22:02:40 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) From: "Ted Mittelstaedt" To: "Drew Tomlinson" Date: Tue, 13 Dec 2005 21:59:26 -0800 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.6604 (9.0.2911.0) In-Reply-To: <439EDF2D.2050701@mykitchentable.net> Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1506 Cc: Michael Vince , danial_thom@yahoo.com, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, Kris Kennaway Subject: RE: Polling For 100 mbps Connections? (Was Re: Freebsd Theme Song) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 14 Dec 2005 06:01:00 -0000 >-----Original Message----- >From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org >[mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]On Behalf Of Drew Tomlinson >Sent: Tuesday, December 13, 2005 6:48 AM >To: Ted Mittelstaedt >Cc: Michael Vince; danial_thom@yahoo.com; freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; >Kris Kennaway >Subject: Re: Polling For 100 mbps Connections? (Was Re: Freebsd Theme >Song) > > >Ted Mittelstaedt wrote, On 12/13/2005 12:44 AM: > >> >> >>>-----Original Message----- >>>From: Drew Tomlinson [mailto:drew@mykitchentable.net] >>>Sent: Monday, December 12, 2005 12:30 PM >>>To: Ted Mittelstaedt >>>Cc: Michael Vince; danial_thom@yahoo.com; >freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; >>>Kris Kennaway >>>Subject: Polling For 100 mbps Connections? (Was Re: Freebsd >Theme Song) >>> >>> >>>On 12/12/2005 8:13 AM Ted Mittelstaedt wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>>>Michael, >>>> >>>> Fundamentally, here's the problem Danial is claiming exists: >>>> >>>>it takes a certain amount of time to get the packet clocked in >>>> >>>> >>>>from the network into the ethernet receiver. This is hardware >>> >>> >>>>dependent and cannot be changed. >>>> >>>>It takes a certain amount of time to get the packet out of >>>>the hardware in the ethernet card into main ram, this also >>>>hardware dependent and cannot be changed. (unless the device >>>>driver is terribly inefficient, which we will assume it's not) >>>> >>>>Once in main ram, the information in the packet has to go through >>>>a number of code statements. The more code statements the >>>>longer the information in the packet is sitting around in >>>>the FreeBSD system's memory. >>>> >>>>It then takes a certain amount of time to get the information >>>>out of main memory into the other sending ethernet nic's buffers, >>>> >>>>and it takes time to get it out of the sending nic back to the >>>>wire. >>>> >>>>Danial is claiming the slowness is in the main ram section of >>>>things, not in the ethernet driver code. >>>> >>>>polling makes the ethernet driver more efficient at high data >>>>rates, but it does nothing for the speed of processing within >>>>the TCPIP stack itself. At low data rates polling is less >>>>efficient than the interrupt method. And unless the nic driver >>>>is terribly inefficient to start with, the time it adds to the >>>>packet path in the system is minor compared to the time spent >>>>in the TCP/IP stack. >>>> >>>>Ted >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>Thanks for the explanation. So would polling be beneficial or >>>detrimental for a 100 mbps Ethernet card? >>> >>> >> >>Yes, if you were running 100Mbt's of bandwidth through it. >> >> > >I assume you mean "yes it's beneficial"? :) > Yes. :-) >>>Not sure if 100 mbps is >>>considered "high" or "low" speed. I'm specifically interested in >>>NetGear cards using the dc driver or DLink cards using the rl driver. >>> >>> >>> >> >>The rl chipset isn't known as a very good chipset. YMMV >> >> > >Yeah, I've heard that a lot. It was an old card I had lying around and >it seems to work OK for me. I'm not using it for anything other that >connecting to a 802.11b wireless bridge. Very little traffic. > This post is passing through 2 of these cards on my home BSD router. Fortunately these days since so many mboards are coming with onboard ethernet, the used market is awash in nice PCI ethernet cards. >>Some of the Netgear cards use clone 21143 chipsets which are >>extremely inferior to the real thing. In particular if your >>Netgear card is using a PNIC chipset it is pretty bad with serious >>performance penalty. This is documented in Section 4 of the >dc manpage. >> >> > >This is disapointing. I was under the impression that NetGear cards >were pretty good. But now I looked closer at dmesg.boot and see I have >the PNIC chipset you mention. I'll read the dc man page to see what >penalties I'm suffering. > >>People seem to have good results with polling on the fxp cards. >> >> > >Ah, the built in interface on a HP e60 server I have. It's an old dog >used as a file server. It has been nothing but reliable and is still >chuggin' along just fine. I'll enable polling on it and see if there's >any noticeable improvement in transfer rates. The machine that >typically is used for large file transfers to and from the e60 is a >Windows XP box that has a Nvidia Nforce 4 chipset and whatever >intergrated ethernet port that comes with that chipset. Are there any >known issues with this setup that would invalidate my test? > Yes. The old dog may not be able to take packets off the fxp chip fast enough if your hitting it with 100Mbt of data - which your Nforce chipset running on a nice new multigigahertz mboard is probably able to do. This is a CPU speed thing not an architecture thing, and polling won't make any difference. But, OTOH, windows is pretty inefficient so the network performance of a multigigahertz windows box might just equal that of a under-a-gigahertz mboard running UNIX. Ted From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Dec 14 06:13:40 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 76F4016A41F for ; Wed, 14 Dec 2005 06:13:40 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from cswiger@mac.com) Received: from pi.codefab.com (pi.codefab.com [199.103.21.227]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 01CD743D46 for ; Wed, 14 Dec 2005 06:13:39 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from cswiger@mac.com) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pi.codefab.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 996426066; Wed, 14 Dec 2005 01:13:38 -0500 (EST) Received: from pi.codefab.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (pi.codefab.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 60586-09; Wed, 14 Dec 2005 01:13:37 -0500 (EST) Received: from [192.168.1.3] (pool-68-161-122-227.ny325.east.verizon.net [68.161.122.227]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by pi.codefab.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8B6C95E80; Wed, 14 Dec 2005 01:13:37 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <439FB80C.4050905@mac.com> Date: Wed, 14 Dec 2005 01:13:32 -0500 From: Chuck Swiger Organization: The Courts of Chaos User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.7 (Windows/20050923) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Parv References: <20051214000234.GA28630@holestein.holy.cow> In-Reply-To: <20051214000234.GA28630@holestein.holy.cow> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.93.0.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at codefab.com Cc: f-q Subject: Re: Getting the network traffic amount since the interface went up X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 14 Dec 2005 06:13:40 -0000 Parv wrote: > I am interested to know the total amount of data passed through a > network interface (em0 in my case) since the interface went up. So > far, i have seen that pload, nload, & "netstat -b -I" report the > amount since the operating system has been up, not since the new > ethernet connection has been (re)established. > > Is there a way to find out the amount of traffic (in & out) since a > network interface has been up (not since the OS has been up)? There are lots of solutions to this problem, it kinda depends on what you're trying to do. You might set up an IPFW rule which matches just the traffic you care about, and look at "ipfw -a l". You can zero the counters at will if you like, too. From the ipfw manpage: Per-flow queueing can be useful for a variety of purposes. A very simple one is counting traffic: ipfw add pipe 1 tcp from any to any ipfw add pipe 1 udp from any to any ipfw add pipe 1 ip from any to any ipfw pipe 1 config mask all The above set of rules will create queues (and collect statistics) for all traffic. Because the pipes have no limitations, the only effect is collecting statistics. Note that we need 3 rules, not just the last one, because when ipfw tries to match IP packets it will not consider ports, so we would not see connections on separate ports as different ones. -- -Chuck From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Dec 14 06:20:47 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B26AB16A41F for ; Wed, 14 Dec 2005 06:20:47 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from cswiger@mac.com) Received: from pi.codefab.com (pi.codefab.com [199.103.21.227]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 437C043D49 for ; Wed, 14 Dec 2005 06:20:47 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from cswiger@mac.com) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pi.codefab.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B03716066; Wed, 14 Dec 2005 01:20:46 -0500 (EST) Received: from pi.codefab.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (pi.codefab.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 09589-06; Wed, 14 Dec 2005 01:20:46 -0500 (EST) Received: from [192.168.1.3] (pool-68-161-122-227.ny325.east.verizon.net [68.161.122.227]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by pi.codefab.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id BD0545E80; Wed, 14 Dec 2005 01:20:45 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <439FB9BF.6090305@mac.com> Date: Wed, 14 Dec 2005 01:20:47 -0500 From: Chuck Swiger Organization: The Courts of Chaos User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.7 (Windows/20050923) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Michael Dexter References: In-Reply-To: X-Enigmail-Version: 0.93.0.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at codefab.com Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: kern.maxdsiz "big memory/tuning" questions X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 14 Dec 2005 06:20:47 -0000 Michael Dexter wrote: [ ... ] > However, I am not clear if: > > 1. It is permitted to use "M" and "G" notation (kern.maxsiz="1G")? - > some say yes, some say no and I would prefer not risk the system not > booting. Using "1G" or some number followed by "M" is working for me in 5.x and 6.0. > 2. Which tunables actually matter beyond kern.maxdsiz? Some say only > kern.maxdsiz and some suggest all three. 'man tuning' and the handbook > (~/handbook/configtuning-kernel-limits.html) only goes into maxfiles and > maxusers. Searches of this list and Google have yeilded what you see above. > > Could someone please share some wisdom or docs on this matter? The stuff listed in /etc/defaults/loader.conf is probably the most complete reference outside of the kernel source code itself, but you might find looking at the corresponding "sysctl -d" output for the variables in question. Note that the loader and sysctl don't always use the same name. Other than that, check what limits you're seeing in the shell you run. And double-check under /bin/sh too, for cron jobs or stuff started at boot. :-) -- -Chuck From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Dec 14 06:30:43 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: questions@FreeBSD.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DC69C16A41F for ; Wed, 14 Dec 2005 06:30:43 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from cswiger@mac.com) Received: from pi.codefab.com (pi.codefab.com [199.103.21.227]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7959C43D55 for ; Wed, 14 Dec 2005 06:30:43 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from cswiger@mac.com) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pi.codefab.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D652A6066; Wed, 14 Dec 2005 01:30:42 -0500 (EST) Received: from pi.codefab.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (pi.codefab.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 89767-01; Wed, 14 Dec 2005 01:30:42 -0500 (EST) Received: from [192.168.1.3] (pool-68-161-122-227.ny325.east.verizon.net [68.161.122.227]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by pi.codefab.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A1DB55D8F; Wed, 14 Dec 2005 01:30:41 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <439FBC13.5010101@mac.com> Date: Wed, 14 Dec 2005 01:30:43 -0500 From: Chuck Swiger Organization: The Courts of Chaos User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.7 (Windows/20050923) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: YairNet LinuxServ References: <007201c6005d$e4763b30$0200000a@crow2004> In-Reply-To: <007201c6005d$e4763b30$0200000a@crow2004> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.93.0.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1255 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at codefab.com Cc: questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: you need mirror from israel? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 14 Dec 2005 06:30:44 -0000 YairNet LinuxServ wrote: > Hello > we Compay WebHosting (Www.linuxserv.co.il) > You need to mirror freebsd from israel ,if yes give me help so mirror > good day. It's likely that this document will tell you all about mirroring FreeBSD: http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/articles/hubs/article.html Thanks for your interest, -- -Chuck From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Dec 14 06:44:55 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4E0C216A41F for ; Wed, 14 Dec 2005 06:44:55 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from anirban.adhikary@gmail.com) Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.196]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D08FC43D53 for ; Wed, 14 Dec 2005 06:44:54 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from anirban.adhikary@gmail.com) Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 8so38296nzo for ; Tue, 13 Dec 2005 22:44:54 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type; b=Au0NQ9TjPmJ89beLRA4td+dO/GtmAGz8OptO/C0+3kujOPcaDQPnysy6Qswls702JdA20L7ZruLo5qNy31TmGoexbtFswfEEXQ7vdNQxUSQjvuv2NdkovnxFRNNt78bPszhZUSxKAkPMNMxIoQqriBZVwPUgVLLtLs6vIDKxaww= Received: by 10.37.12.73 with SMTP id p73mr239945nzi; Tue, 13 Dec 2005 22:44:54 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.36.220.80 with HTTP; Tue, 13 Dec 2005 22:44:53 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <71c73b070512132244y1d8737ebhe32be069976add88@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 14 Dec 2005 12:14:53 +0530 From: Anirban Adhikary To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: doubts X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 14 Dec 2005 06:44:55 -0000 Hi guys This is Anirban. I have a doubts on the following question. How to write a shell program that will check whether a server is up or down (on ping) and log the report to a file. Hope i will receive my answer soon. With regards Anirban. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Dec 14 06:57:57 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B2D4116A41F for ; Wed, 14 Dec 2005 06:57:57 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from runfreebsd@yahoo.com) Received: from web35303.mail.mud.yahoo.com (web35303.mail.mud.yahoo.com [66.163.179.97]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 5018043D49 for ; Wed, 14 Dec 2005 06:57:57 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from runfreebsd@yahoo.com) Received: (qmail 21190 invoked by uid 60001); 14 Dec 2005 06:57:56 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=OGcGOT8uTz7C0mAxw+cpFB0tHRAEVPg4kgh8+iOOFVkEAWvQ2p3wUoDD1nnlD/ayjKMSgguNmyHcImZa3fPCnFXTslbmzRUBmcnOFTwpcHsmSznG4qDmgq2NwH687Lv3pCpO21QYqMhThSxRaUfMGiFu6NOu/e8FFR7dwuPDBLg= ; Message-ID: <20051214065756.21188.qmail@web35303.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Received: from [63.204.157.14] by web35303.mail.mud.yahoo.com via HTTP; Tue, 13 Dec 2005 22:57:56 PST Date: Tue, 13 Dec 2005 22:57:56 -0800 (PST) From: Bill Schoolcraft To: FreeBSD MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Subject: nfs exporting mounted iso files ? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 14 Dec 2005 06:57:57 -0000 Hello Family, I have been trying to export four mounted iso images under /mnt on my FreeBSD-5.4 box via nfs and I can export everything under /mnt but the iso's don't show up on the client, only the directories. First I mounted all the iso's with the following series of commands. mdconfig -a -t vnode -f file1.iso -u 1 mount -t cd9660 /dev/md1 /mnt/loop1 mdconfig -a -t vnode -f file1.iso -u 2 mount -t cd9660 /dev/md2 /mnt/loop2 mdconfig -a -t vnode -f file3.iso -u 3 mount -t cd9660 /dev/md3 /mnt/loop3 mdconfig -a -t vnode -f file4.iso -u 4 mount -t cd9660 /dev/md4 /mnt/loop4 ######################################################### ere is my /etc/exportfs on the FreeBSD-5.4 server /mnt -maproot=0 -network 192.168.1.0 -mask 255.255.255.0 ######################################################### Here are the mounted iso's via the mount command on the server. /dev/md1 on /mnt/loop1 (cd9660, local, read-only) /dev/md2 on /mnt/loop2 (cd9660, local, read-only) /dev/md3 on /mnt/loop3 (cd9660, local, read-only) /dev/md4 on /mnt/loop4 (cd9660, local, read-only) ######################################################### On the other Unix client box I can mount the exported "/mnt" and see all the "/mnt/loop*" but no contents. On the other Unix client box I can also mount "/mnt/loop1" and still not see any contents under "/mnt/loop1" On the server the directories are full of contents under /mnt/loop1 /mnt/loop2 /mnt/loop3 /mnt/loop4 I'm thinking that I can nfs export iso filesystems on other flavors of Unix like systems but not on FreeBSD. Am I missing anything obvious or...? TIA __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! 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(calartstech@sbcglobal.net@68.127.38.82 with plain) by smtp102.sbc.mail.mud.yahoo.com with SMTP; 14 Dec 2005 07:20:44 -0000 Message-ID: <439FC7D1.9070907@sbcglobal.net> Date: Tue, 13 Dec 2005 23:20:49 -0800 From: Jose Borquez User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.7 (Windows/20050923) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: FreeBSD Questions group Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Can't connect to local MySQL server X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 14 Dec 2005 07:20:46 -0000 I am attempting to create a mysql database so that I can install Group Office using mysqladmin create groupoffice and I keep getting the following errors: mysqladmin: connect to server at 'localhost' failed error: 'Can't connect to local MySQL server through socket '/tmp/mysql.sock' (2)' Check that mysqld is running and that the socket: '/tmp/mysql.sock' exists! I looked in /tmp and mysql.sock is not there. Can someone please tell me what is wrong and what I need to do to correct this? Thank you in advance, Jose From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Dec 14 07:22:31 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9C1A516A41F for ; Wed, 14 Dec 2005 07:22:31 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from parv@pair.com) Received: from mta13.adelphia.net (mta13.mail.adelphia.net [68.168.78.44]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ADB3243D5F for ; Wed, 14 Dec 2005 07:22:30 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from parv@pair.com) Received: from default.chvlva.adelphia.net ([68.67.248.52]) by mta13.adelphia.net (InterMail vM.6.01.05.02 201-2131-123-102-20050715) with ESMTP id <20051214072229.NVEE26442.mta13.adelphia.net@default.chvlva.adelphia.net>; Wed, 14 Dec 2005 02:22:29 -0500 Received: by default.chvlva.adelphia.net (Postfix, from userid 1000) id D404BB547; Wed, 14 Dec 2005 02:22:32 -0500 (EST) Date: Wed, 14 Dec 2005 02:22:32 -0500 From: Parv To: Chuck Swiger Message-ID: <20051214072232.GA34657@holestein.holy.cow> Mail-Followup-To: Chuck Swiger , f-q References: <20051214000234.GA28630@holestein.holy.cow> <439FB80C.4050905@mac.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <439FB80C.4050905@mac.com> Cc: f-q Subject: Re: Getting the network traffic amount since the interface went up X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 14 Dec 2005 07:22:31 -0000 in message <439FB80C.4050905@mac.com>, wrote Chuck Swiger thusly... > > Parv wrote: ... > > Is there a way to find out the amount of traffic (in & out) > > since a network interface has been up (not since the OS has been > > up)? > > There are lots of solutions to this problem, it kinda depends on > what you're trying to do. Well, actually i want to know the limit(s) (related to amount of data and number of connections) at which SMC Barricade 7004ABR router allows only the already established connections and refuses to allow any new ones. This is all related to download a large torrent via rtorrent. Rebooting the router solves the problem until i decide to restart the download. > You might set up an IPFW rule which matches just the traffic you > care about, and look at "ipfw -a l". You can zero the counters at > will if you like, too. From the ipfw manpage: > > Per-flow queueing can be useful for a variety of purposes. A > very simple one is counting traffic: Thanks for bringing that to my attention as I mainly use ipf & have not paid much of a look to ipfw. - Parv -- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Dec 14 07:31:44 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2853516A41F for ; Wed, 14 Dec 2005 07:31:44 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from bkoenig@cs.tu-berlin.de) Received: from efacilitas.de (smtp.efacilitas.de [85.10.196.108]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6646743D46 for ; Wed, 14 Dec 2005 07:31:42 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from bkoenig@cs.tu-berlin.de) Received: from eurystheus.local (port-212-202-39-231.dynamic.qsc.de [212.202.39.231]) by efacilitas.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 127024C9D0; Wed, 14 Dec 2005 08:40:00 +0100 (CET) Received: from [192.168.1.2] (muhkuh.local [192.168.1.2]) by eurystheus.local (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1A8145285F; Wed, 14 Dec 2005 08:30:34 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <439FCA5E.7090102@cs.tu-berlin.de> Date: Wed, 14 Dec 2005 08:31:42 +0100 From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Bj=F6rn_K=F6nig?= User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.7 (Windows/20050923) X-Accept-Language: de-DE, de, en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Jose Borquez References: <439FA8B7.7090703@sbcglobal.net> In-Reply-To: <439FA8B7.7090703@sbcglobal.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Cc: FreeBSD Questions group Subject: Re: When using make install for php5 it fails X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 14 Dec 2005 07:31:44 -0000 Jose Borquez schrieb: > When attempting to install php5 from ports it attempts to download, but > I get the following errors: > > Attempting to fetch from > ftp://ftp.FreeBSD.org/pub/FreeBSD/ports/distfiles/. > fetch: > ftp://ftp.FreeBSD.org/pub/FreeBSD/ports/distfiles/php-5.1.1.tar.bz2: > File unavailable (e.g., file not found, no access) > [...] Is this the complete output? Have you set MASTER_SITES somewhere, e.g. in /etc/make.conf? If so, remove it. A workaround would be to download the file manually and place it in ports/distfiles. After you have done this, use the port again to install it. Björn From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Dec 14 07:39:31 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A216416A41F for ; Wed, 14 Dec 2005 07:39:31 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from bkoenig@cs.tu-berlin.de) Received: from efacilitas.de (smtp.efacilitas.de [85.10.196.108]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 27DF043D49 for ; Wed, 14 Dec 2005 07:39:31 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from bkoenig@cs.tu-berlin.de) Received: from eurystheus.local (port-212-202-39-231.dynamic.qsc.de [212.202.39.231]) by efacilitas.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id E4D6A4C9D6; Wed, 14 Dec 2005 08:47:48 +0100 (CET) Received: from [192.168.1.2] (muhkuh.local [192.168.1.2]) by eurystheus.local (Postfix) with ESMTP id 301795285F; Wed, 14 Dec 2005 08:38:23 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <439FCC33.9010709@cs.tu-berlin.de> Date: Wed, 14 Dec 2005 08:39:31 +0100 From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Bj=F6rn_K=F6nig?= User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.7 (Windows/20050923) X-Accept-Language: de-DE, de, en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Jose Borquez References: <439FC7D1.9070907@sbcglobal.net> In-Reply-To: <439FC7D1.9070907@sbcglobal.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Cc: FreeBSD Questions group Subject: Re: Can't connect to local MySQL server X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 14 Dec 2005 07:39:31 -0000 Jose Borquez schrieb: > I am attempting to create a mysql database so that I can install Group > Office using > mysqladmin create groupoffice and I keep getting the following errors: > > mysqladmin: connect to server at 'localhost' failed > error: 'Can't connect to local MySQL server through socket > '/tmp/mysql.sock' (2)' > Check that mysqld is running and that the socket: '/tmp/mysql.sock' exists! > > I looked in /tmp and mysql.sock is not there. > > Can someone please tell me what is wrong and what I need to do to > correct this? I install MySQL this way and the socket is there for me: # rm -R /var/db/mysql // removes old databases # pkg_add -r mysql41-server // install software # ls -l /tmp/mysql.sock ls: /tmp/mysql.sock: No such file or directory # /usr/local/etc/rc.d/mysql-server.sh forcestart // start server # ls -l /tmp/mysql.sock srwxrwxrwx 1 mysql wheel 0 14 Dez 08:32 /tmp/mysql.sock # echo 'mysql_enable="YES"' >> /etc/rc.conf That's it. Björn From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Dec 14 07:53:24 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7D20316A41F for ; Wed, 14 Dec 2005 07:53:24 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from bkoenig@cs.tu-berlin.de) Received: from efacilitas.de (smtp.efacilitas.de [85.10.196.108]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7FC3943D46 for ; Wed, 14 Dec 2005 07:53:23 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from bkoenig@cs.tu-berlin.de) Received: from eurystheus.local (port-212-202-39-231.dynamic.qsc.de [212.202.39.231]) by efacilitas.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id B16ED4C9D6; Wed, 14 Dec 2005 09:01:39 +0100 (CET) Received: from [192.168.1.2] (muhkuh.local [192.168.1.2]) by eurystheus.local (Postfix) with ESMTP id DC2D95285F; Wed, 14 Dec 2005 08:52:13 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <439FCF72.6050802@cs.tu-berlin.de> Date: Wed, 14 Dec 2005 08:53:22 +0100 From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Bj=F6rn_K=F6nig?= User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.7 (Windows/20050923) X-Accept-Language: de-DE, de, en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: user References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: I need a better way to loop in the shell... X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 14 Dec 2005 07:53:24 -0000 Hello user, This worked for me: xargs -I% rm % < file Björn From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Dec 14 08:08:43 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7931B16A41F for ; Wed, 14 Dec 2005 08:08:43 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from kdk@daleco.biz) Received: from ezekiel.daleco.biz (southernuniform.com [66.76.92.18]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B4E7C43D66 for ; Wed, 14 Dec 2005 08:08:30 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from kdk@daleco.biz) Received: from [192.168.2.2] ([69.27.149.254]) by ezekiel.daleco.biz (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id jBE87BwA048531; Wed, 14 Dec 2005 02:07:38 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from kdk@daleco.biz) Message-ID: <439FD2A4.6030503@daleco.biz> Date: Wed, 14 Dec 2005 02:07:00 -0600 From: Kevin Kinsey User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.7.12) Gecko/20051026 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Pietro Cerutti References: <439F3E96.5090101@ntlworld.com> <20051213215647.GA27582@slackbox.xs4all.nl> <20051213233143.GB27219@holestein.holy.cow> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Off-Topic X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 14 Dec 2005 08:08:43 -0000 Pietro Cerutti wrote: >I'm for this one: > >The best way to accellerate a computer running Windows is at 9.81 m/s^2 > >by Roland > >It's wonderful! > >-- >Pietro Cerutti > > > Well, I like it too, but: [502] Wed 14.Dec.2005 2:03:41 [kadmin@archangel][/usr/src/games/fortune/datfiles] grep m/s * fortunes:m/s will give us a gravity of one Earth normal. We wouldn't even need to I think we need someone with a commit bit to get it in the fortune datfiles before 6.1-RELEASE!!!! ;-) :D Kevin Kinsey -- I'd like to see the government get out of war altogether and leave the whole field to private industry. -- Joseph Heller From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Dec 14 08:11:51 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DFAAC16A41F for ; Wed, 14 Dec 2005 08:11:50 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from wash@wananchi.com) Received: from ns2.wananchi.com (ns2.wananchi.com [62.8.64.4]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 541C343D55 for ; Wed, 14 Dec 2005 08:11:49 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from wash@wananchi.com) Received: from wash by ns2.wananchi.com with local (Exim 4.60 #0 (FreeBSD 4.11-STABLE)) id 1EmRjl-0004N0-KO by authid for ; Wed, 14 Dec 2005 11:11:45 +0300 Date: Wed, 14 Dec 2005 11:11:45 +0300 From: Odhiambo Washington To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20051214081145.GE35115@ns2.wananchi.com> Mail-Followup-To: Odhiambo Washington , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline X-Disclaimer: Any views expressed in this message, where not explicitly attributed otherwise, are mine alone!. X-Mailer: Mutt 1.5.11 (2005-09-15) X-Designation: Systems Administrator, Wananchi Online Ltd. X-Location: Nairobi, KE, East Africa. User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.11 Subject: Apache22 build error X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 14 Dec 2005 08:11:51 -0000 I am still going through my upgrade woes since updating to 6.0-STABLE. Perhaps what I am seeing now is different and not FreeBSD-specific but it might be as well ;) I completed my portupgrade -af yesterday. Now I am looking at moving ahead with life on 6.0 platform, with new kids on the block. Compiling www/apache20 works fine, but www/apache22 fails viz: config.status: creating docs/conf/httpd.conf config.status: creating docs/conf/extra/httpd-autoindex.conf config.status: creating docs/conf/extra/httpd-dav.conf config.status: creating docs/conf/extra/httpd-default.conf config.status: creating docs/conf/extra/httpd-info.conf config.status: creating docs/conf/extra/httpd-languages.conf config.status: creating docs/conf/extra/httpd-manual.conf config.status: creating docs/conf/extra/httpd-mpm.conf config.status: creating docs/conf/extra/httpd-multilang-errordoc.conf config.status: creating docs/conf/extra/httpd-ssl.conf config.status: creating docs/conf/extra/httpd-userdir.conf config.status: creating docs/conf/extra/httpd-vhosts.conf config.status: creating include/ap_config_layout.h config.status: creating support/apxs config.status: creating support/apachectl config.status: creating support/dbmmanage config.status: creating support/envvars-std config.status: creating support/log_server_status config.status: creating support/logresolve.pl config.status: creating support/phf_abuse_log.cgi config.status: creating support/split-logfile config.status: creating build/rules.mk config.status: creating build/pkg/pkginfo config.status: creating build/config_vars.sh config.status: creating include/ap_config_auto.h config.status: executing default commands /usr/bin/sed -i.bak -e "s,%%WWWOWN%%,www, ; s,%%WWWGRP%%,www, " /usr/ports/www/apache22/work/httpd-2.2.0/docs/conf/httpd.conf ===> Building for apache-2.2.0_1 Making all in srclib Making all in pcre /usr/local/build-1/libtool --silent --mode=compile cc -g -O2 -fno-strict-aliasing -pipe -I/usr/ports/www/apache22/work/httpd-2.2. 0/srclib/pcre -I. -I/usr/ports/www/apache22/work/httpd-2.2.0/os/unix -I/usr/ports/www/apache22/work/httpd-2.2.0/server/mpm/prefork -I/u sr/ports/www/apache22/work/httpd-2.2.0/modules/http -I/usr/ports/www/apache22/work/httpd-2.2.0/modules/filters -I/usr/ports/www/apache2 2/work/httpd-2.2.0/modules/proxy -I/usr/ports/www/apache22/work/httpd-2.2.0/include -I/usr/ports/www/apache22/work/httpd-2.2.0/modules/ generators -I/usr/ports/www/apache22/work/httpd-2.2.0/modules/mappers -I/usr/ports/www/apache22/work/httpd-2.2.0/modules/database -I/us r/local/include/apr-1 -I/usr/local/include -I/usr/ports/www/apache22/work/httpd-2.2.0/modules/proxy/../generators -I/usr/include -I/usr /ports/www/apache22/work/httpd-2.2.0/modules/ssl -I/usr/ports/www/apache22/work/httpd-2.2.0/modules/dav/main -prefer-non-pic -static -c maketables.c && touch maketables.lo libtool: compile: unable to infer tagged configuration libtool: compile: specify a tag with `--tag' *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/ports/www/apache22/work/httpd-2.2.0/srclib/pcre. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/ports/www/apache22/work/httpd-2.2.0/srclib/pcre. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/ports/www/apache22/work/httpd-2.2.0/srclib. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/ports/www/apache22/work/httpd-2.2.0. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/ports/www/apache22. Anyone knows why it fails at this point and how i can fix it? TIA -Wash http://www.netmeister.org/news/learn2quote.html -- +======================================================================+ |\ _,,,---,,_ | Odhiambo Washington Zzz /,`.-'`' -. ;-;;,_ | Wananchi Online Ltd. www.wananchi.com |,4- ) )-,_. ,\ ( `'-'| Tel: +254 20 313985-9 +254 20 313922 '---''(_/--' `-'\_) | GSM: +254 722 743223 +254 733 744121 +======================================================================+ Real computer scientists don't program in assembler. They don't write in anything less portable than a number two pencil. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Dec 14 08:15:05 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7A45316A41F for ; Wed, 14 Dec 2005 08:15:05 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from wash@wananchi.com) Received: from ns2.wananchi.com (mail.wananchi.com [62.8.64.4]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4B67343D55 for ; Wed, 14 Dec 2005 08:15:04 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from wash@wananchi.com) Received: from wash by ns2.wananchi.com with local (Exim 4.60 #0 (FreeBSD 4.11-STABLE)) id 1EmRmn-00057U-Vp by authid ; Wed, 14 Dec 2005 11:14:54 +0300 Date: Wed, 14 Dec 2005 11:14:53 +0300 From: Odhiambo Washington To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20051214081453.GF35115@ns2.wananchi.com> Mail-Followup-To: Odhiambo Washington , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, bsdlists@sbcglobal.net References: <439FC7D1.9070907@sbcglobal.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <439FC7D1.9070907@sbcglobal.net> X-Disclaimer: Any views expressed in this message, where not explicitly attributed otherwise, are mine alone!. X-Mailer: Mutt 1.5.11 (2005-09-15) X-Designation: Systems Administrator, Wananchi Online Ltd. X-Location: Nairobi, KE, East Africa. User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.11 Cc: Subject: Re: Can't connect to local MySQL server X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 14 Dec 2005 08:15:05 -0000 * On 13/12/05 23:20 -0800, Jose Borquez wrote: > I am attempting to create a mysql database so that I can install Group > Office using > mysqladmin create groupoffice and I keep getting the following errors: > > mysqladmin: connect to server at 'localhost' failed > error: 'Can't connect to local MySQL server through socket > '/tmp/mysql.sock' (2)' > Check that mysqld is running and that the socket: '/tmp/mysql.sock' exists! > > I looked in /tmp and mysql.sock is not there. > > Can someone please tell me what is wrong and what I need to do to > correct this? echo "mysql_enable="YES"" >> /etc/rc.conf sh /usr/local/etc/rc.d/mysql-server.sh start ls -al /tmp/mysql.sock # If it's still missing, let me know! -Wash http://www.netmeister.org/news/learn2quote.html -- +======================================================================+ |\ _,,,---,,_ | Odhiambo Washington Zzz /,`.-'`' -. ;-;;,_ | Wananchi Online Ltd. www.wananchi.com |,4- ) )-,_. ,\ ( `'-'| Tel: +254 20 313985-9 +254 20 313922 '---''(_/--' `-'\_) | GSM: +254 722 743223 +254 733 744121 +======================================================================+ Always borrow money from a pessimist; he doesn't expect to be paid back. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Dec 14 08:17:04 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B0C9016A41F for ; Wed, 14 Dec 2005 08:17:04 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from nick@konservator.ru) Received: from mail.konservator.ru (konservator.ru [81.211.3.194]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D164F43D76 for ; Wed, 14 Dec 2005 08:16:47 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from nick@konservator.ru) Received: from it104 (flydoc.ru [212.44.152.142]) by mail.konservator.ru (Postfix) with ESMTP id 050F128459 for ; Wed, 14 Dec 2005 11:16:42 +0300 (MSK) From: "nick" To: Date: Wed, 14 Dec 2005 11:16:37 +0300 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook, Build 11.0.6353 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1441 In-Reply-To: <44bqzklpsa.fsf@be-well.ilk.org> Thread-Index: AcYAIZT6GKgq66brTTCdD11GDvXLzgAY4C+Q Message-Id: <20051214081642.050F128459@mail.konservator.ru> Subject: RE: PAE kernel build error X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 14 Dec 2005 08:17:04 -0000 Iso images was uploaded from ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/releases/i386/ISO-IMAGES/6.0/ FreeBSD was installed with Developer option as usual. After that RAID-1 was created according Dru Lavigne's tips from http://www.onlamp.com/pub/a/bsd/2005/11/10/FreeBSD_Basics.html (two MAXTOR ATLAS 15K2 73G SCSI HDD drives on integrated Adatec AIC-7902 Ultra320SCSI adapter) -----Original Message----- From: lowell@be-well.ilk.org [mailto:lowell@be-well.ilk.org] On Behalf Of Lowell Gilbert Sent: Tuesday, December 13, 2005 11:13 PM To: nick Subject: Re: PAE kernel build error Don't top-post, please. "nick" writes: > OS version FreeBSD 6.0 RELEASE > Platform - dual Intel Xeon 3.4 on Supermicro SUPER X6DH8-G2 (Lindenherst > Chipset) motherboard with 8G RAM > There are no any problem with i386 GENERIC or SMP kernels. > > make buildkernel KERNCONF=PAE > generate error above. > Original PAE conf file: > > include GENERIC > device acpi > makeoptions NO_MODULES=yes > and lot of nodevice options......... The default PAE kernel builds for me on 6-STABLE, and the release records look like the kernel built then. Have you changed anything from the stock kernel configurations? What sources do you have installed, and how did you install them? > > > -----Original Message----- > From: lowell@be-well.ilk.org [mailto:lowell@be-well.ilk.org] On Behalf Of > Lowell Gilbert > Sent: Monday, December 12, 2005 5:49 PM > To: nick > Subject: Re: PAE kernel build error > > "nick" writes: > > > Can't build PAE kernel. > > make buildkernel KERNCONF=PAE > > generate error: > > > > I/usr/src/sys/contrib/dev/ath/freebsd -I/usr/src/sys/contrib/ngatm > -I/usr/src/sys/dev/twa -D_KERNEL -DHAVE_KERNEL_OPTION_HEADERS -include > opt_global.h -fno-common -finline-limit=8000 --param inline-unit-growth=100 > --param large-function-growth=1000 -mno-align-long-strings > -mpreferred-stack-boundary=2 -mno-mmx -mno-3dnow -mno-sse -mno-sse2 > -ffreestanding -Werror /usr/src/sys/dev/fdc/fdc_pccard.c > > cc -c -O -pipe -Wall -Wredundant-decls -Wnested-externs > -Wstrict-prototypes -Wmissing-prototypes -Wpointer-arith -Winline > -Wcast-qual -fformat-extensions -std=c99 -g -nostdinc -I- -I. > -I/usr/src/sys -I/usr/src/sys/contrib/dev/acpica -I/usr/src/sys/contrib/altq > -I/usr/src/sys/contrib/ipfilter -I/usr/src/sys/contrib/pf > -I/usr/src/sys/contrib/dev/ath -I/usr/src/sys/contrib/dev/ath/freebsd > -I/usr/src/sys/contrib/ngatm -I/usr/src/sys/dev/twa -D_KERNEL > -DHAVE_KERNEL_OPTION_HEADERS -include opt_global.h -fno-common > -finline-limit=8000 --param inline-unit-growth=100 --param > large-function-growth=1000 -mno-align-long-strings > -mpreferred-stack-boundary=2 -mno-mmx -mno-3dnow -mno-sse -mno-sse2 > -ffreestanding -Werror /usr/src/sys/dev/hptmv/entry.c > > /usr/src/sys/dev/hptmv/entry.c: In function `fOsBuildSgl': > > /usr/src/sys/dev/hptmv/entry.c:2476: warning: cast to pointer from integer > of different size > > /usr/src/sys/dev/hptmv/entry.c: In function `hpt_io_dmamap_callback': > > /usr/src/sys/dev/hptmv/entry.c:2606: warning: cast to pointer from integer > of different size > > /usr/src/sys/dev/hptmv/entry.c: In function `OsSendCommand': > > /usr/src/sys/dev/hptmv/entry.c:2758: warning: cast to pointer from integer > of different size > > *** Error code 1 > > > > Stop in /usr/obj/usr/src/sys/PAE. > > *** Error code 1 > > > > Stop in /usr/src. > > *** Error code 1 > > > > Stop in /usr/src. > > That isn't really enough information to work with. > Try reading the following: > http://www.ru.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/articles/freebsd-questions/ind > ex.html > > > -- Lowell Gilbert, embedded/networking software engineer, Boston area http://be-well.ilk.org/~lowell/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Dec 14 08:32:01 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F29EB16A422 for ; Wed, 14 Dec 2005 08:32:00 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from bsdlists@sbcglobal.net) Received: from smtp103.sbc.mail.mud.yahoo.com (smtp103.sbc.mail.mud.yahoo.com [68.142.198.202]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id DC5D043D5C for ; Wed, 14 Dec 2005 08:31:59 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from bsdlists@sbcglobal.net) Received: (qmail 87176 invoked from network); 14 Dec 2005 08:31:59 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?127.0.0.1?) (calartstech@sbcglobal.net@68.127.38.82 with plain) by smtp103.sbc.mail.mud.yahoo.com with SMTP; 14 Dec 2005 08:31:58 -0000 Message-ID: <439FD883.8050208@sbcglobal.net> Date: Wed, 14 Dec 2005 00:32:03 -0800 From: Jose Borquez User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.7 (Windows/20050923) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Odhiambo Washington References: <439FC7D1.9070907@sbcglobal.net> <20051214081453.GF35115@ns2.wananchi.com> In-Reply-To: <20051214081453.GF35115@ns2.wananchi.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Can't connect to local MySQL server X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 14 Dec 2005 08:32:01 -0000 Odhiambo Washington wrote: >* On 13/12/05 23:20 -0800, Jose Borquez wrote: > > >>I am attempting to create a mysql database so that I can install Group >>Office using >>mysqladmin create groupoffice and I keep getting the following errors: >> >>mysqladmin: connect to server at 'localhost' failed >>error: 'Can't connect to local MySQL server through socket >>'/tmp/mysql.sock' (2)' >>Check that mysqld is running and that the socket: '/tmp/mysql.sock' exists! >> >>I looked in /tmp and mysql.sock is not there. >> >>Can someone please tell me what is wrong and what I need to do to >>correct this? >> >> > > >echo "mysql_enable="YES"" >> /etc/rc.conf >sh /usr/local/etc/rc.d/mysql-server.sh start >ls -al /tmp/mysql.sock # If it's still missing, let me know! > > >-Wash > >http://www.netmeister.org/news/learn2quote.html > >-- >+======================================================================+ > |\ _,,,---,,_ | Odhiambo Washington >Zzz /,`.-'`' -. ;-;;,_ | Wananchi Online Ltd. www.wananchi.com > |,4- ) )-,_. ,\ ( `'-'| Tel: +254 20 313985-9 +254 20 313922 > '---''(_/--' `-'\_) | GSM: +254 722 743223 +254 733 744121 >+======================================================================+ >Always borrow money from a pessimist; he doesn't expect to be paid >back. > > > > Thanks for the help, but I figured it out. Jose From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Dec 14 08:33:22 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6583116A41F for ; Wed, 14 Dec 2005 08:33:22 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) Received: from mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com (mail.web-strider.com [65.75.192.90]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9A33143D5A for ; Wed, 14 Dec 2005 08:33:10 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) Received: from tedwin2k (nat-rtr.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [65.75.197.130]) by mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com (8.11.1/8.11.1) with SMTP id jBE8a8b05845; Wed, 14 Dec 2005 00:36:08 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) From: "Ted Mittelstaedt" To: , "Drew Tomlinson" Date: Wed, 14 Dec 2005 00:32:55 -0800 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.6604 (9.0.2911.0) In-Reply-To: <20051213184622.19320.qmail@web33314.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1506 Cc: Michael Vince , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, Kris Kennaway Subject: RE: Polling For 100 mbps Connections? (Was Re: Freebsd Theme Song) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 14 Dec 2005 08:33:22 -0000 >-----Original Message----- >From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org >[mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]On Behalf Of Danial Thom >Sent: Tuesday, December 13, 2005 10:46 AM >To: Ted Mittelstaedt; Drew Tomlinson >Cc: Michael Vince; freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Kris Kennaway >Subject: RE: Polling For 100 mbps Connections? (Was Re: Freebsd Theme >Song) > So >specifically WHAT it is doesn't change my claim >the FreeBSD 5.x and 6.x suck, at least relative >to what you started with. If you take something >and make it worse, and seem to have no ability to >figure out WHY, then you're incompetent. Its as >simple as that. > >I have posted a reasonable test and results, No you have not. You have posted a general test, you have not posted exactly what you did and with exactly what hardware, nor that hardware's settings. > and >there are countless complaints about performance. > The -questions mailing list is self-selecting, what that means is that you only will see complaints on it. That is it's purpose. What your basically doing is standing at the door of the women's bathroom at the mall, and trying to determine the ratio of men to women in the mall by looking at every person that comes out of that door. >I think the fact that every time someone >complains Robert Watson tells them to "wait for >6.0, or wait for 7.0" is a pretty good indication >that things aren't what the Teds and Krises >claim. > What am I claiming? Danial once again you are proving you are nothing more than a blowhard - you haven't really read anything that I have said. What I have claimed repeatedly is that until you post verifyable, and repeatable benchmarks, along with the test methodology used to arrive at them, that your statements have no credibility. In other words, you have made some interesting accusations, now please get on with some supporting evidence. Ted From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Dec 14 08:38:44 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 85B2F16A420 for ; Wed, 14 Dec 2005 08:38:44 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from bsdlists@sbcglobal.net) Received: from smtp102.sbc.mail.mud.yahoo.com (smtp102.sbc.mail.mud.yahoo.com [68.142.198.201]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 6060D43D6E for ; Wed, 14 Dec 2005 08:38:23 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from bsdlists@sbcglobal.net) Received: (qmail 78481 invoked from network); 14 Dec 2005 08:38:15 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?127.0.0.1?) (calartstech@sbcglobal.net@68.127.38.82 with plain) by smtp102.sbc.mail.mud.yahoo.com with SMTP; 14 Dec 2005 08:38:15 -0000 Message-ID: <439FD9FC.6040101@sbcglobal.net> Date: Wed, 14 Dec 2005 00:38:20 -0800 From: Jose Borquez User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.7 (Windows/20050923) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: FreeBSD Questions group Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Can't open Apache web page X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 14 Dec 2005 08:38:44 -0000 I have set up Apache and when I attempt to enter the ip address of the server I just get a Connecting to 172.16.1.10 and then it times out. What do I need to check to try and troubleshoot this problem? httpd is currently running. Here is the output of top: PID USERNAME PRI NICE SIZE RES STATE TIME WCPU CPU COMMAND 533 mysql 20 0 56640K 26280K kserel 0:02 0.00% 0.00% mysqld 492 jose 96 0 6116K 2964K select 0:00 0.00% 0.00% sshd 558 root 96 0 8808K 6548K select 0:00 0.00% 0.00% httpd 380 root 96 0 2900K 1732K select 0:00 0.00% 0.00% ntpd 552 root 20 0 2284K 1760K pause 0:00 0.00% 0.00% csh 169 root 8 0 1780K 1384K nanslp 0:00 0.00% 0.00% ipmon 400 root 96 0 3456K 2668K select 0:00 0.00% 0.00% sendmail 493 jose 20 0 2280K 1756K pause 0:00 0.00% 0.00% tcsh 489 root 4 0 6136K 2892K sbwait 0:00 0.00% 0.00% sshd 609 root 96 0 2312K 1580K RUN 0:00 0.00% 0.00% top 515 mysql 8 0 1664K 1264K wait 0:00 0.00% 0.00% sh 551 jose 8 0 1608K 1296K wait 0:00 0.00% 0.00% su 272 root 96 0 1324K 864K select 0:00 0.00% 0.00% syslogd 416 root 8 0 1364K 1052K nanslp 0:00 0.00% 0.00% cron 481 root 5 0 1288K 952K ttyin 0:00 0.00% 0.00% getty 482 root 5 0 1288K 952K ttyin 0:00 0.00% 0.00% getty 485 root 5 0 1288K 952K ttyin 0:00 0.00% 0.00% getty Thanks in advance, Jose From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Dec 14 08:41:08 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 622A016A41F for ; Wed, 14 Dec 2005 08:41:08 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from norgaard@locolomo.org) Received: from strange.daemonsecurity.com (59.Red-81-33-11.staticIP.rima-tde.net [81.33.11.59]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 258B543D70 for ; Wed, 14 Dec 2005 08:41:03 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from norgaard@locolomo.org) Received: from [172.24.8.84] (generic.atosorigin.es [212.170.156.200]) by strange.daemonsecurity.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5555D2E307 for ; Wed, 14 Dec 2005 09:41:02 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <439FDA99.1030500@locolomo.org> Date: Wed, 14 Dec 2005 09:40:57 +0100 From: Erik Norgaard User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.7 (X11/20051205) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Subject: Locale problems with perl X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 14 Dec 2005 08:41:08 -0000 Hi, I recently (two weeks ago) upgraded my system and all ports. But since then, whenever I install some perl module I get something like this: ######## Begin Make output ########## ===> Extracting for p5-Compress-Zlib-1.41 => MD5 Checksum OK for Compress-Zlib-1.41.tar.gz. => No SHA256 checksum recorded for Compress-Zlib-1.41.tar.gz. ===> p5-Compress-Zlib-1.41 depends on file: /usr/local/bin/perl5.8.7 - found tar: Failed to set default locale ===> Patching for p5-Compress-Zlib-1.41 ===> p5-Compress-Zlib-1.41 depends on file: /usr/local/bin/perl5.8.7 - found ===> Applying FreeBSD patches for p5-Compress-Zlib-1.41 ===> p5-Compress-Zlib-1.41 depends on file: /usr/local/bin/perl5.8.7 - found ===> Configuring for p5-Compress-Zlib-1.41 perl: warning: Setting locale failed. perl: warning: Please check that your locale settings: LC_ALL = (unset), LANG = "en_GB.ISO_8859-1" are supported and installed on your system. perl: warning: Falling back to the standard locale ("C"). Parsing config.in... Looks Good. Up/Downgrade complete. Checking if your kit is complete... Looks good Unable to find a perl 5 (by these names: /usr/local/bin/perl5.8.7 perl perl5 perl5.8.7 miniperl, in these dirs: /sbin /bin /usr/sbin /usr/bin /usr/games /usr/local/sbin /usr/local/bin /usr/X11R6/bin /root/bin /usr/local/bin) Writing Makefile for Compress::Zlib perl: warning: Setting locale failed. perl: warning: Please check that your locale settings: LC_ALL = (unset), LANG = "en_GB.ISO_8859-1" are supported and installed on your system. perl: warning: Falling back to the standard locale ("C"). ===> Building for p5-Compress-Zlib-1.41 0: not found *** Error code 127 Stop in /usr/ports/archivers/p5-Compress-Zlib/work/Compress-Zlib-1.41. *** Error code 1 ######## End Make output ########## But I have: calvin# which perl /usr/bin/perl calvin# which perl5.8.7 /usr/local/bin/perl5.8.7 In login.conf I have: en_GB:English users:\ :charset=iso-8859-1:\ :lang=en_GB.ISO8859-1:\ :tc=default: Any idea what has gone wrong during upgrade? Thanks, Erik -- Ph: +34.666334818 web: www.locolomo.org S/MIME Certificate: www.daemonsecurity.com/ca/8D03551FFCE04F06.crt Subject ID: 9E:AA:18:E6:94:7A:91:44:0A:E4:DD:87:73:7F:4E:82:E7:08:9C:72 Fingerprint: 5B:D5:1E:3E:47:E7:EC:1C:4C:C8:3A:19:CC:AE:14:F5:DF:18:0F:B9 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Dec 14 08:46:59 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 697E816A420 for ; Wed, 14 Dec 2005 08:46:59 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from kdk@daleco.biz) Received: from ezekiel.daleco.biz (southernuniform.com [66.76.92.18]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 00F4943D5A for ; Wed, 14 Dec 2005 08:46:58 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from kdk@daleco.biz) Received: from [192.168.2.2] ([69.27.149.254]) by ezekiel.daleco.biz (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id jBE8iwb0048711; Wed, 14 Dec 2005 02:45:18 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from kdk@daleco.biz) Message-ID: <439FDB80.9060904@daleco.biz> Date: Wed, 14 Dec 2005 02:44:48 -0600 From: Kevin Kinsey User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.7.12) Gecko/20051026 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Bj=F6rn_K=F6nig?= References: <439FA8B7.7090703@sbcglobal.net> <439FCA5E.7090102@cs.tu-berlin.de> In-Reply-To: <439FCA5E.7090102@cs.tu-berlin.de> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Cc: FreeBSD Questions group Subject: Re: When using make install for php5 it fails X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 14 Dec 2005 08:46:59 -0000 Björn König wrote: > Jose Borquez schrieb: > >> When attempting to install php5 from ports it attempts to download, >> but I get the following errors: >> >> Attempting to fetch from >> ftp://ftp.FreeBSD.org/pub/FreeBSD/ports/distfiles/. >> fetch: >> ftp://ftp.FreeBSD.org/pub/FreeBSD/ports/distfiles/php-5.1.1.tar.bz2: >> File unavailable (e.g., file not found, no access) >> [...] > > > Is this the complete output? Have you set MASTER_SITES somewhere, e.g. > in /etc/make.conf? If so, remove it. > > A workaround would be to download the file manually and place it in > ports/distfiles. After you have done this, use the port again to > install it. > > Björn And we should also be asking, *why* is it failing? The tarball really doesn't seem to exist on ftp.freebsd.org. Strange that the Makefile would assume it does --- and, furthermore, ale@ announced on the 10th of this month that he was bumping the port up to 5.1.1 ... The O.P. might want to ask on the ports@ list about this one. Or, better yet, if he can afford to wait: try again in 24 hours or so, and *then* write to ports@.... Kevin Kinsey -- [Crash programs] fail because they are based on the theory that, with nine women pregnant, you can get a baby a month. -- Wernher von Braun From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Dec 14 08:53:27 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7F20416A41F for ; Wed, 14 Dec 2005 08:53:27 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) Received: from mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com (mail.web-strider.com [65.75.192.90]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D8C9743D46 for ; Wed, 14 Dec 2005 08:53:26 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) Received: from tedwin2k (nat-rtr.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [65.75.197.130]) by mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com (8.11.1/8.11.1) with SMTP id jBE8pOb05920; Wed, 14 Dec 2005 00:51:24 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) From: "Ted Mittelstaedt" To: , "Drew Tomlinson" Date: Wed, 14 Dec 2005 00:48:11 -0800 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.6604 (9.0.2911.0) In-Reply-To: <20051213190711.25141.qmail@web33313.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1506 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: RE: Polling For 100 mbps Connections? (Was Re: Freebsd Theme Song) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 14 Dec 2005 08:53:27 -0000 >-----Original Message----- >From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org >[mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]On Behalf Of Danial Thom >Sent: Tuesday, December 13, 2005 11:07 AM >To: Drew Tomlinson >Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org >Subject: Re: Polling For 100 mbps Connections? (Was Re: Freebsd Theme >Song) > > > > >--- Drew Tomlinson >wrote: > >> Ted Mittelstaedt wrote, On 12/13/2005 12:44 AM: >> >> > >> > >> >>-----Original Message----- >> >>From: Drew Tomlinson >> [mailto:drew@mykitchentable.net] >> >>Sent: Monday, December 12, 2005 12:30 PM >> >>To: Ted Mittelstaedt >> >>Cc: Michael Vince; danial_thom@yahoo.com; >> freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; >> >>Kris Kennaway >> >>Subject: Polling For 100 mbps Connections? >> (Was Re: Freebsd Theme Song) >> >> >> >> >> >>On 12/12/2005 8:13 AM Ted Mittelstaedt wrote: >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>Michael, >> >>> >> >>> Fundamentally, here's the problem Danial is >> claiming exists: >> >>> >> >>>it takes a certain amount of time to get the >> packet clocked in >> >>> >> >>> >> >>>from the network into the ethernet receiver. >> This is hardware >> >> >> >> >> >>>dependent and cannot be changed. >> >>> >> >>>It takes a certain amount of time to get the >> packet out of >> >>>the hardware in the ethernet card into main >> ram, this also >> >>>hardware dependent and cannot be changed. >> (unless the device >> >>>driver is terribly inefficient, which we >> will assume it's not) >> >>> >> >>>Once in main ram, the information in the >> packet has to go through >> >>>a number of code statements. The more code >> statements the >> >>>longer the information in the packet is >> sitting around in >> >>>the FreeBSD system's memory. >> >>> >> >>>It then takes a certain amount of time to >> get the information >> >>>out of main memory into the other sending >> ethernet nic's buffers, >> >>> >> >>>and it takes time to get it out of the >> sending nic back to the >> >>>wire. >> >>> >> >>>Danial is claiming the slowness is in the >> main ram section of >> >>>things, not in the ethernet driver code. >> >>> >> >>>polling makes the ethernet driver more >> efficient at high data >> >>>rates, but it does nothing for the speed of >> processing within >> >>>the TCPIP stack itself. At low data rates >> polling is less >> >>>efficient than the interrupt method. And >> unless the nic driver >> >>>is terribly inefficient to start with, the >> time it adds to the >> >>>packet path in the system is minor compared >> to the time spent >> >>>in the TCP/IP stack. >> >>> >> >>>Ted >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>Thanks for the explanation. So would polling >> be beneficial or >> >>detrimental for a 100 mbps Ethernet card? >> >> >> >> >> > >> >Yes, if you were running 100Mbt's of bandwidth >> through it. >> > >> > >> >> I assume you mean "yes it's beneficial"? :) > >Thats just not true, or at least not globally. >The right answer is: It depends on the hardware. >Polling should NEVER be used for hardware that >has built-in hardware interrupt throttling (such >as fxp and em driver cards). polling has a LOT of >overhead. Hardware hold offs give you the benefit >of controlled interrupt reduction without >adulterating your system with tons of extra clock >interrupts. This has been discussed over and >over, and still some of the people who are >supposed to know about this have no clue >whatsoever. > Well, if polling does no good for fxp, due to the hardware doing controlled interrupts, then why does the fxp driver even let you set it as an option? And why have many people who have enabled it on fxp seen an improvement? I've read those datasheets as well and the thing I don't understand is that if you are pumping 100Mbt into an Etherexpress Pro/100 then if the card will not interrupt more than this throttled rate you keep talking about, then the card's interrupt throttling is going to limit the inbound bandwidth to below 100Mbt. In which case this is not a 10/100 card and Intel is guilty of false advertising and so on, plus nobody would ever report that they could actually get 100Mbt of bandwidth on this card. In other words, a few moments logical thinking would show that this throttling is worthless at high bandwidth and only is going to work at lower bandwidth, where polling overhead is a net lose anyway. >polling is ONLY a POSSIBLE advantage is your >hardware actually interrupts for every event. >Good controllers do not. I don't know the specs >of every card/chipset, but with intel cards you >definitely do NOT want to use polling, as an >example. > >Regardless of the hardware, if you see a >substantial increase with performance its because >the OS is broken and not because of the polling, >particularly if you have a relatively low volume >of traffic. The same number of cpu cycles are >needed to process the packets whether you poll or >not. > >As an example, changing the number of receive >interrupts per second from 10,000 to 25000 on an >em card (4.9 OS, which is known NOT to be broken) >pushing 100Kpps yields about a 3% difference in >cpu load (no noticable difference in >performance). For an average load server doing >less than 1K pps, on a modern processor the cpu >load difference is not significant enough to make >much noticable difference in performance. > Here we go again with the hand-waving. Did it ever occur to you to post the actual machine specs of the systems involved? Ted >Of course anyone using a realtek or cheap >controller on an expensive machine is just a >plain fool; spend the extra relative pennies for >a controller that actually works properly. I'm >amazed at the number of idiots running MP >machines with cheap ethernet controllers. Its >like putting $25. tires on a porche. > >DT > >__________________________________________________ >Do You Yahoo!? >Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around >http://mail.yahoo.com >_______________________________________________ >freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list >http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions >To unsubscribe, send any mail to >"freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > >-- >No virus found in this incoming message. >Checked by AVG Free Edition. >Version: 7.1.371 / Virus Database: 267.13.13/199 - Release >Date: 12/13/2005 > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Dec 14 08:54:00 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2420D16A41F for ; Wed, 14 Dec 2005 08:54:00 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) Received: from mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com (mail.web-strider.com [65.75.192.90]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 41F3C43D60 for ; Wed, 14 Dec 2005 08:53:57 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) Received: from tedwin2k (nat-rtr.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [65.75.197.130]) by mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com (8.11.1/8.11.1) with SMTP id jBE8t5b05948; Wed, 14 Dec 2005 00:55:05 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) From: "Ted Mittelstaedt" To: , "Cezar Fistik" , Date: Wed, 14 Dec 2005 00:51:52 -0800 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.6604 (9.0.2911.0) In-Reply-To: <20051213190825.80186.qmail@web33302.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1506 Cc: Subject: RE: Re[2]: Polling For 100 mbps Connections? (Was Re: Freebsd ThemeSong) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 14 Dec 2005 08:54:00 -0000 >-----Original Message----- >From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org >[mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]On Behalf Of Danial Thom >Sent: Tuesday, December 13, 2005 11:08 AM >To: Cezar Fistik; freebsd-questions@freebsd.org >Subject: Re: Re[2]: Polling For 100 mbps Connections? (Was Re: Freebsd >ThemeSong) > > > > >--- Cezar Fistik wrote: > >> Hello, >> >> Just a remark. I'm using an "Intel PRO/1000 MT >> Dual Port Gigabit Copper >> CAT5 Server PCI express Adapter" in a box >> serving as router. Pumping 150Mbps >> through it with 99% idle CPU and 1% interrupts, >> polling enabled. It's >> a litle bit expensive, but it does its job >> perfectly. >> > >If you read my last post about polling with intel >cards, you're realize just how foolish your >analysis is. > Maybe he tried pumping the 150Mbps with polling turned off and the CPU utilization skyrocketed? Ted From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Dec 14 09:01:32 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 45DD416A41F for ; Wed, 14 Dec 2005 09:01:32 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from wash@wananchi.com) Received: from ns2.wananchi.com (ns2.wananchi.com [62.8.64.4]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 80EE743D55 for ; Wed, 14 Dec 2005 09:01:30 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from wash@wananchi.com) Received: from wash by ns2.wananchi.com with local (Exim 4.60 #0 (FreeBSD 4.11-STABLE)) id 1EmSVp-000G3R-TK by authid for ; Wed, 14 Dec 2005 12:01:25 +0300 Date: Wed, 14 Dec 2005 12:01:25 +0300 From: Odhiambo Washington To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20051214090125.GG35115@ns2.wananchi.com> Mail-Followup-To: Odhiambo Washington , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <439FD9FC.6040101@sbcglobal.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <439FD9FC.6040101@sbcglobal.net> X-Disclaimer: Any views expressed in this message, where not explicitly attributed otherwise, are mine alone!. X-Mailer: Mutt 1.5.11 (2005-09-15) X-Designation: Systems Administrator, Wananchi Online Ltd. X-Location: Nairobi, KE, East Africa. User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.11 Subject: Re: Can't open Apache web page X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 14 Dec 2005 09:01:32 -0000 * On 14/12/05 00:38 -0800, Jose Borquez wrote: > I have set up Apache and when I attempt to enter the ip address of the > server I just get a Connecting to 172.16.1.10 and then it times out. > What do I need to check to try and troubleshoot this problem? > httpd is currently running. Here is the output of top: > PID USERNAME PRI NICE SIZE RES STATE TIME WCPU CPU COMMAND > 533 mysql 20 0 56640K 26280K kserel 0:02 0.00% 0.00% mysqld > 492 jose 96 0 6116K 2964K select 0:00 0.00% 0.00% sshd > 558 root 96 0 8808K 6548K select 0:00 0.00% 0.00% httpd > 380 root 96 0 2900K 1732K select 0:00 0.00% 0.00% ntpd > 552 root 20 0 2284K 1760K pause 0:00 0.00% 0.00% csh > 169 root 8 0 1780K 1384K nanslp 0:00 0.00% 0.00% ipmon > 400 root 96 0 3456K 2668K select 0:00 0.00% 0.00% sendmail > 493 jose 20 0 2280K 1756K pause 0:00 0.00% 0.00% tcsh > 489 root 4 0 6136K 2892K sbwait 0:00 0.00% 0.00% sshd > 609 root 96 0 2312K 1580K RUN 0:00 0.00% 0.00% top > 515 mysql 8 0 1664K 1264K wait 0:00 0.00% 0.00% sh > 551 jose 8 0 1608K 1296K wait 0:00 0.00% 0.00% su > 272 root 96 0 1324K 864K select 0:00 0.00% 0.00% syslogd > 416 root 8 0 1364K 1052K nanslp 0:00 0.00% 0.00% cron > 481 root 5 0 1288K 952K ttyin 0:00 0.00% 0.00% getty > 482 root 5 0 1288K 952K ttyin 0:00 0.00% 0.00% getty > 485 root 5 0 1288K 952K ttyin 0:00 0.00% 0.00% getty > > Thanks in advance, > Jose Login to the box and do: telnet 172.16.1.10 80 GET / If you get a semblance of a page, then check your firewall, although I doubt you know what that would do to you ;) -Wash http://www.netmeister.org/news/learn2quote.html -- +======================================================================+ |\ _,,,---,,_ | Odhiambo Washington Zzz /,`.-'`' -. ;-;;,_ | Wananchi Online Ltd. www.wananchi.com |,4- ) )-,_. ,\ ( `'-'| Tel: +254 20 313985-9 +254 20 313922 '---''(_/--' `-'\_) | GSM: +254 722 743223 +254 733 744121 +======================================================================+ The moon is a planet just like the Earth, only it is even deader. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Dec 14 09:06:19 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ECED116A41F for ; Wed, 14 Dec 2005 09:06:19 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from lk@tempest.sk) Received: from mailgw.dgrp.sk (mailgw.dgrp.sk [195.28.127.4]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B592543D6E for ; Wed, 14 Dec 2005 09:06:18 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from lk@tempest.sk) Received: by mailgw.dgrp.sk (Postfix, from userid 1003) id EFFE734A5A2; Wed, 14 Dec 2005 10:06:16 +0100 (CET) X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.0 (2005-09-13) on mailgw.dgrp.sk X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.5 required=4.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=3.1.0 Received: from webmail.tempest.sk (domino1.tempest.sk [195.28.100.38]) by mailgw.dgrp.sk (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1D1D334A5A8 for ; Wed, 14 Dec 2005 10:06:11 +0100 (CET) Received: from lk.tempest.sk ([195.28.109.47]) by webmail.tempest.sk (Lotus Domino Release 6.5.4) with ESMTP id 2005121410061000-6367 ; Wed, 14 Dec 2005 10:06:10 +0100 Received: from lk.tempest.sk (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by lk.tempest.sk (8.13.3/8.12.9) with ESMTP id jBE964Dd036172 for ; Wed, 14 Dec 2005 10:06:04 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from lk@lk.tempest.sk) Received: (from koren@localhost) by lk.tempest.sk (8.13.3/8.13.1/Submit) id jBE964Tb036169; Wed, 14 Dec 2005 10:06:04 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from lk) X-Authentication-Warning: lk.tempest.sk: koren set sender to lk using -f Sender: lk@tempest.sk To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: Ludo Koren Date: 14 Dec 2005 10:06:03 +0100 Message-ID: <87oe3k6oas.fsf@lk.tempest.sk> Lines: 15 User-Agent: Gnus/5.09 (Gnus v5.9.0) Emacs/21.3 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-MIMETrack: Itemize by SMTP Server on Domino1/DGRP(Release 6.5.4|March 27, 2005) at 14.12.2005 10:06:10, Serialize by Router on Domino1/DGRP(Release 6.5.4|March 27, 2005) at 14.12.2005 10:06:11, Serialize complete at 14.12.2005 10:06:11 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Subject: gvinum + growfs on 5.4-STABLE X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 14 Dec 2005 09:06:20 -0000 Hi, is it possible (tested?) to use safely growfs on gvinum mirror volume on FreeBSD 5.4-STABLE ? (I know there was problem on earlier 5.x version with vinum). Thanks, lk PS: I did not search yet, but has anybody step by step docs on replacing a dead drive in gvinum mirror? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Dec 14 10:09:07 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A216B16A420 for ; Wed, 14 Dec 2005 10:09:07 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from freebsd-listen@fabiankeil.de) Received: from smtprelay01.ispgateway.de (smtprelay01.ispgateway.de [80.67.18.13]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4F6B343D8D for ; Wed, 14 Dec 2005 10:08:57 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from freebsd-listen@fabiankeil.de) Received: (qmail 17970 invoked from network); 14 Dec 2005 10:08:54 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO TP51.local) ([pbs]775067@[217.187.178.105]) (envelope-sender ) by smtprelay01.ispgateway.de (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for ; 14 Dec 2005 10:08:54 -0000 Date: Wed, 14 Dec 2005 11:08:34 +0100 From: Fabian Keil To: Bill Schoolcraft Message-ID: <20051214110834.3866d6cc@TP51.local> In-Reply-To: <20051214065756.21188.qmail@web35303.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <20051214065756.21188.qmail@web35303.mail.mud.yahoo.com> X-Mailer: Sylpheed-Claws 1.9.100 (GTK+ 2.8.6; i386-portbld-freebsd5.4) X-PGP-KEY-URL: http://www.fabiankeil.de/gpg-keys/freebsd-listen-2006-08-19.asc Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="Sig_=j3vEI82Lz+Ecp6jjFLXfT9"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=PGP-SHA1 Cc: FreeBSD Subject: Re: nfs exporting mounted iso files ? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 14 Dec 2005 10:09:07 -0000 --Sig_=j3vEI82Lz+Ecp6jjFLXfT9 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Bill Schoolcraft wrote: > I have been trying to export four mounted iso images under /mnt on my > FreeBSD-5.4 box via nfs and I can export everything under /mnt but the > iso's don't show up on the client, only the directories. > ######################################################### > ere is my /etc/exportfs on the FreeBSD-5.4 server You mean /etc/exports right? =20 > /mnt -maproot=3D0 -network 192.168.1.0 -mask 255.255.255.0 >=20 > ######################################################### >=20 > Here are the mounted iso's via the mount command on the server. >=20 > /dev/md1 on /mnt/loop1 (cd9660, local, read-only) > /dev/md2 on /mnt/loop2 (cd9660, local, read-only) > /dev/md3 on /mnt/loop3 (cd9660, local, read-only) > /dev/md4 on /mnt/loop4 (cd9660, local, read-only) >=20 > ######################################################### >=20 > On the other Unix client box I can mount the exported "/mnt" and see > all the > "/mnt/loop*" but no contents. >=20 > On the other Unix client box I can also mount "/mnt/loop1" and still > not see any contents under "/mnt/loop1" >=20 > On the server the directories are full of contents under >=20 > /mnt/loop1 > /mnt/loop2 > /mnt/loop3 > /mnt/loop4 >=20 > I'm thinking that I can nfs export iso filesystems on other > flavors of Unix like systems but not on FreeBSD. >=20 > Am I missing anything obvious or...? NFS exports file systems, not directories. If you put each of your mount points in /etc/exports it should work.=20 Fabian --=20 http://www.fabiankeil.de/ --Sig_=j3vEI82Lz+Ecp6jjFLXfT9 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Disposition: attachment; filename=signature.asc -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.2 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFDn+8pjV8GA4rMKUQRAk5rAJ0fuv7lP/REzAJ9Qays4HxmfpOYygCcCahk mJli+OXyMkdBJa554oGf6fg= =C4JH -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Sig_=j3vEI82Lz+Ecp6jjFLXfT9-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Dec 14 11:26:02 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 38E0416A41F for ; Wed, 14 Dec 2005 11:26:02 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from xfb52@dial.pipex.com) Received: from smtp-out2.blueyonder.co.uk (smtp-out2.blueyonder.co.uk [195.188.213.5]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DA1E743D5D for ; Wed, 14 Dec 2005 11:26:00 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from xfb52@dial.pipex.com) Received: from [82.41.32.173] ([82.41.32.173]) by smtp-out2.blueyonder.co.uk with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.6713); Wed, 14 Dec 2005 10:51:08 +0000 Message-ID: <439FF8E4.6050901@dial.pipex.com> Date: Wed, 14 Dec 2005 10:50:12 +0000 From: Alex Zbyslaw User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-GB; rv:1.7.12) Gecko/20051106 X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Jeff D. Hamann" References: <004701c60007$dc095cd0$0a00a8c0@rodan> <439F0434.5090002@dial.pipex.com> <002201c60010$507f13e0$0a00a8c0@rodan> In-Reply-To: <002201c60010$507f13e0$0a00a8c0@rodan> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-OriginalArrivalTime: 14 Dec 2005 10:51:08.0200 (UTC) FILETIME=[49EFFA80:01C6009C] Cc: freebsd-questions Subject: Re: can't mount msdos fs on freebsd6? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 14 Dec 2005 11:26:02 -0000 Jeff D. Hamann wrote: > sorry, partial newbie here... > > mothra# fdisk -s /dev/ad0 > > yields, > > /dev/ad0: 193821 cyl 16 hd 63 sec > Part start size type flags > 1: 63 61432497 0x07 0x00 > 2: 61432560 61448625 0x0f 0x00 > 3: 122881185 72485280 0xa5 0x80 > > I also made my partition using partition magic 7.0. Should I have mad > ethe partition using xp? > > does this have anything to do with the fact that the parition is an > extended partition? Try mounting it as /dev/ad0s5 and see if that works. Making things with PM is fine. But it being an extended partition certainly makes a difference. If these are the only three partitions on your disk then making one extended seems a waste of time. The point of extended partitions, AFAIK, is that you can put more partitions inside one, thus extending the the limit from 4. If all you have is 3 then you just don't need one to be extended. (Of course, I can't see what else you may have inside that extended partition, so if you have more in there then you may well need one to be extended. Without more info, I cannot say). I have no idea why PM always defaults to trying to make a new partition as extended. In FreeBSD, the first extended partition is 5, the next 6 etc. And that is counted in the order they were *made* (that's my experience to date) and *not* the order that you can see them in PM, for example. Note, however, that many standard FreeBSD tools (fdisk, sysinstall) don't deal with logical partitions inside extended partitions. I don't believe you could boot from one for example, nor use sysinstall to newfs one for you. For FAT32 or NTFS using one should be fine -- I have FAT32s inside extended partitions with no problems. Btw, in Unix-land(*), DOS/fdisk partitions are called "slices". And inside a slice you make your Unix partitions (s3a for / etc). Yes, this is a pain, but Unix had partitions when DOS was a piece of crud which only had floppies. Unfortunately, some genius decided to pinch the term for the way DOS/windows divided up a hard disk; Microsoft went on to rule the world, and now confusion reigns and getting there first counts for nothing :-( --Alex (*) Linux is different and does treat it's partitions as the same as DOS/fdisk partitions, which must make multiple installations a real pain in the behind. It also explains why most Linux installations are /boot, / and one monolithic partitions for everything else. But we all know that Linux is not Unix :-) From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Dec 14 11:39:41 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 833C216A41F for ; Wed, 14 Dec 2005 11:39:41 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: from rosebud.otenet.gr (rosebud.otenet.gr [195.170.0.94]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D6C7B43D4C for ; Wed, 14 Dec 2005 11:39:39 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: from flame.pc (aris.bedc.ondsl.gr [62.103.39.226]) by rosebud.otenet.gr (8.13.4/8.13.4/Debian-8) with SMTP id jBEBdbHt014179; Wed, 14 Dec 2005 13:39:37 +0200 Received: by flame.pc (Postfix, from userid 1001) id C846A11455; Wed, 14 Dec 2005 13:38:43 +0200 (EET) Date: Wed, 14 Dec 2005 13:38:43 +0200 From: Giorgos Keramidas To: Wojciech Puchar Message-ID: <20051214113843.GC1256@flame.pc> References: <20051213203622.71670.qmail@web32812.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <20051214015047.Q49870@chylonia.3miasto.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20051214015047.Q49870@chylonia.3miasto.net> Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: /etc/mail/local-host-names X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 14 Dec 2005 11:39:41 -0000 On 2005-12-14 01:51, Wojciech Puchar wrote: >> I think you need to put that in /etc/mail/access as >> >> 10 RELAY >> >> and then do a >> #make maps >> >> Check the Makefile in /etc/mail/ for more on the make >> option >> >> Read /usr/share/sendmail/cf/README for more info. > thanks. > > so what does local-host-names control? > > exactly as filename states? what domain does this server handle? The list of host names for which email delivery takes place locally (Sendmail documentation calls this "class 'w'" some times, if I remember correctly). If your hostname is foo.example.net and the `confCW_FILE' macro points to /etc/mail/local-host-names (as it does by default), and that file contains: bar.example.net Then Sendmail will try to deliver messages sent to user@bar.example.net locally too. You don't absolutely _have_ to put *ALL* your host names in local-host-names, because as I wrote before, Sendmail tries to auto-discover the local host names. You can see this list by running Sendmail in 'test mode' and looking at the value of '$=w' like this (pressing CTRL-D exits from 'test mode', near the end of the following example): # keramida@flame[13:35]/home/keramida$ /usr/libexec/sendmail/sendmail -bt # ADDRESS TEST MODE (ruleset 3 NOT automatically invoked) # Enter
# > $=w # [IPv6:::1] # [IPv6:fe80::1] # flame.pc # www.pc # mail.pc # localhost.localdomain # localhost # flame # [127.0.0.1] # localhost.pc # [IPv6:fe80::211:95ff:feca:e5e8] # flame.localdomain # freebsd.pc # [flame.daedalusnetworks.priv] # > ^D # keramida@flame[13:35]/home/keramida$ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Dec 14 11:42:41 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5E1FA16A429 for ; Wed, 14 Dec 2005 11:42:41 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from steinex@scott.blazing.de) Received: from scott.blazing.de (scott.blazing.de [80.86.187.157]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 042DE43D45 for ; Wed, 14 Dec 2005 11:42:40 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from steinex@scott.blazing.de) Received: by scott.blazing.de (Postfix, from userid 508) id C8F167532E; Wed, 14 Dec 2005 12:42:39 +0100 (CET) Date: Wed, 14 Dec 2005 12:42:39 +0100 From: Frank Steinborn To: Erik Norgaard Message-ID: <20051214114239.GA28648@scott.blazing.de> References: <439FDA99.1030500@locolomo.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <439FDA99.1030500@locolomo.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.10i Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Locale problems with perl X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 14 Dec 2005 11:42:41 -0000 Erik Norgaard wrote: > Hi, > > I recently (two weeks ago) upgraded my system and all ports. But since > then, whenever I install some perl module I get something like this: > perl: warning: Setting locale failed. > perl: warning: Please check that your locale settings: > LC_ALL = (unset), > LANG = "en_GB.ISO_8859-1" > are supported and installed on your system. > perl: warning: Falling back to the standard locale ("C"). It seems that perl has to be build at last. So if you upgrade some port depending on perl and build perl afterwards, you will run into this problem. Donk ask me why this is, but it worked for me. Frank From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Dec 14 11:43:45 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 77C0116A41F for ; Wed, 14 Dec 2005 11:43:45 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from xfb52@dial.pipex.com) Received: from smtp-out6.blueyonder.co.uk (smtp-out6.blueyonder.co.uk [195.188.213.9]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0DBBE43D5C for ; Wed, 14 Dec 2005 11:43:32 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from xfb52@dial.pipex.com) Received: from [82.41.32.173] ([82.41.32.173]) by smtp-out6.blueyonder.co.uk with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.6713); Wed, 14 Dec 2005 11:44:25 +0000 Message-ID: <43A00560.4060500@dial.pipex.com> Date: Wed, 14 Dec 2005 11:43:28 +0000 From: Alex Zbyslaw User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-GB; rv:1.7.12) Gecko/20051106 X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Anirban Adhikary References: <71c73b070512132244y1d8737ebhe32be069976add88@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <71c73b070512132244y1d8737ebhe32be069976add88@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-OriginalArrivalTime: 14 Dec 2005 11:44:25.0263 (UTC) FILETIME=[BB8913F0:01C600A3] Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: doubts X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 14 Dec 2005 11:43:45 -0000 Anirban Adhikary wrote: >Hi guys >This is Anirban. I have a doubts on the following question. > >How to write a shell program that will check whether a server is up or down >(on ping) and log the report to a file. > > You may be wondering why no-one is replying to you and the main reasons would be: 1) You show no evidence of even having *tried* to write something. If you'd said "I did X but it didn't work" then maybe some kind soul would have helped you out. All you are asking is for someone else to write your script for you. 2) It's pretty clear that you know next to nothing about shell scripting, in which case you should do what everyone else who has needed to write shell scripts has done: a) Buy a book or b) study some examples of which there must be hundreds on your FreeBSD installation or c) get someone to teach you or d) search google for tutorials And always, always, always read the manual pages. Here's a quick sh script for you. You can figure out how to do the redirection and how to run it from cron. $ for host in host1 host2 > do > if ping -c 1 $host 2>&1 > /dev/null > then > echo $host: UP > else > echo $host: DOWN > fi > done host1: DOWN host2: UP You might also consider nagios from the ports but it may be far more than you want. With the limited information you provided about why you want to do this, no-one will ever know. --Alex From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Dec 14 13:20:05 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5919816A41F for ; Wed, 14 Dec 2005 13:20:05 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from bkoenig@cs.tu-berlin.de) Received: from efacilitas.de (smtp.efacilitas.de [85.10.196.108]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8693E43D53 for ; Wed, 14 Dec 2005 13:20:04 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from bkoenig@cs.tu-berlin.de) Received: from eurystheus.local (port-212-202-39-231.dynamic.qsc.de [212.202.39.231]) by efacilitas.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id C3F7E4CA74; Wed, 14 Dec 2005 14:28:21 +0100 (CET) Received: from [192.168.1.2] (muhkuh.local [192.168.1.2]) by eurystheus.local (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3A93F5285F; Wed, 14 Dec 2005 14:18:55 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <43A01C04.7040304@cs.tu-berlin.de> Date: Wed, 14 Dec 2005 14:20:04 +0100 From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Bj=F6rn_K=F6nig?= User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.7 (Windows/20050923) X-Accept-Language: de-DE, de, en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Kevin Kinsey References: <439FA8B7.7090703@sbcglobal.net> <439FCA5E.7090102@cs.tu-berlin.de> <439FDB80.9060904@daleco.biz> In-Reply-To: <439FDB80.9060904@daleco.biz> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Cc: FreeBSD Questions group Subject: Re: When using make install for php5 it fails X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 14 Dec 2005 13:20:05 -0000 Kevin Kinsey schrieb: > And we should also be asking, *why* is it failing? > > The tarball really doesn't seem to exist on ftp.freebsd.org. > Strange that the Makefile would assume it does --- and, > furthermore, ale@ announced on the 10th of this month > that he was bumping the port up to 5.1.1 ... That's why I asked if MASTER_SITES is set. The port works for me in general; it uses the correct servers and downloads php-5.1.1.tar.bz2 from one of the PHP mirror servers without any problems. But I get exactly the same error message as Jose if I set MASTER_SITES to a random value. Björn From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Dec 14 13:26:13 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DC86216A41F for ; Wed, 14 Dec 2005 13:26:13 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from goodredhat@yahoo.com) Received: from web34014.mail.mud.yahoo.com (web34014.mail.mud.yahoo.com [66.163.178.95]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 6CC1143D58 for ; Wed, 14 Dec 2005 13:26:13 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from goodredhat@yahoo.com) Received: (qmail 19758 invoked by uid 60001); 14 Dec 2005 13:26:12 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=UqFJbq/tx/tslh+UfwMtcHhPfJivgFoyuMLpLWZZUU2xFtH5lI6XD+OD7Hwgr3b50wEE3sRH72QH8jYVG/Tx+3kMuU92YZkHDoY1R3N8ZiPD9biLrgWNm/q9o/wQAY0NIp33vTGwJlI6ctJ+dABt+CqD+/PP97omXJmSpqUll+A= ; Message-ID: <20051214132612.19756.qmail@web34014.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Received: from [202.54.195.82] by web34014.mail.mud.yahoo.com via HTTP; Wed, 14 Dec 2005 05:26:12 PST Date: Wed, 14 Dec 2005 05:26:12 -0800 (PST) From: manish jain To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: sendmail hangs at boot time X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 14 Dec 2005 13:26:14 -0000 Hi, I recently replaced sendmail with qmail on my freebsd 6.0 system, and now tried to revert to sendmail today. I enabled sendmail in rc.conf, made the mailer.conf entries point back to sendmail and deleted aliases.db. Now the system hangs at boot time with the message "creating aliases.db" from the script /etc/rc.d/sendmail. It apparantly hangs becauses the newaliases command does not return. Can anyone please tell me how I should get around this and correctly re-enable sendmail ? Thank you Manish Jain --------------------------------- Yahoo! Shopping Find Great Deals on Holiday Gifts at Yahoo! Shopping From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Dec 14 13:58:34 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B3FD216A41F for ; Wed, 14 Dec 2005 13:58:34 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from Erin@Fortenberry.net) Received: from intake.emails-are.us (intake.emails-are.us [66.240.197.130]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B876A43D5F for ; Wed, 14 Dec 2005 13:58:32 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from Erin@Fortenberry.net) Received: from localhost (localhost.webs-are.us [127.0.0.1]) by intake.emails-are.us (Postfix) with ESMTP id 964C1DA83F; Wed, 14 Dec 2005 05:58:51 -0800 (PST) Received: from intake.emails-are.us ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (vhost.methodent.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 27737-06; Wed, 14 Dec 2005 05:58:50 -0800 (PST) Received: from snkxwefortenbe (chfw02.scripps.com [207.203.254.110]) by intake.emails-are.us (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4E225DA83E; Wed, 14 Dec 2005 05:58:50 -0800 (PST) From: "Erin Fortenberry" To: "'manish jain'" , Date: Wed, 14 Dec 2005 08:58:30 -0500 Message-ID: <002901c600b6$776bf710$1215450a@ad.ewsad.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2670 Thread-Index: AcYAswFxN8G6sZXpTxqbNJIFUdlogQAA1x+w In-Reply-To: <20051214132612.19756.qmail@web34014.mail.mud.yahoo.com> X-Virus-Scanned: by emails-are.us anti-virus X-Spam-Status: No, score=-101.451 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=1.148, BAYES_00=-2.599, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] X-Spam-Score: -101.451 X-Spam-Level: Cc: Subject: RE: sendmail hangs at boot time X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 14 Dec 2005 13:58:34 -0000 Try adding your FDQN/IP to your /etc/hosts file. -Erin > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > [mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org] On Behalf Of manish jain > Sent: Wednesday, December 14, 2005 8:26 AM > To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > Subject: sendmail hangs at boot time > > > Hi, > > I recently replaced sendmail with qmail on my freebsd 6.0 > system, and now tried to revert to sendmail today. I enabled > sendmail in rc.conf, made the mailer.conf entries point back > to sendmail and deleted aliases.db. Now the system hangs at > boot time with the message "creating aliases.db" from the > script /etc/rc.d/sendmail. It apparantly hangs becauses the > newaliases command does not return. Can anyone please tell me > how I should get around this and correctly re-enable sendmail ? > > Thank you > Manish Jain > > > > --------------------------------- > Yahoo! Shopping > Find Great Deals on Holiday Gifts at Yahoo! Shopping > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Dec 14 14:24:07 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 58BF016A41F for ; Wed, 14 Dec 2005 14:24:07 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from nsrashmi@gmail.com) Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.207]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BF45943D5C for ; Wed, 14 Dec 2005 14:24:04 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from nsrashmi@gmail.com) Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id i1so129081nzh for ; Wed, 14 Dec 2005 06:24:03 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=aQTeihQmJ0n3+N94u3byq3ciTt1oSbhUO8p37ry8BWEGXrqldAjK5olCpwvijfIdybKJIpRnibgfE4QIMfCJ01JvJ2ziOBK1n7rWZ95P4AGTeLcmUcg1828VElPz0nee4M4T2WyF/+JvSmkelBWblrjvf9KGgzZh6PBMZCwKeAk= Received: by 10.64.253.7 with SMTP id a7mr429087qbi; Wed, 14 Dec 2005 06:24:03 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.64.204.16 with HTTP; Wed, 14 Dec 2005 06:24:02 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <9f9993160512140624q147a274fyf99892b49ca7137c@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 14 Dec 2005 19:54:02 +0530 From: rashmi ns To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <9f9993160512130421m60fe7303l311c13b542544551@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline References: <9f9993160512130421m60fe7303l311c13b542544551@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: Help reqd: Configuring sppp X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 14 Dec 2005 14:24:07 -0000 On 12/13/05, rashmi ns wrote: > Hi, > > I am facing problem in using sppp. > > Both local system amd remote systems are using the sppp. > > My questions are > > 1.Can we use sppp as PPP server? > 2.If answer to first question is yes ,how can I do that? > > I tried out the following commands. > > $ifconfig hdlc0 up > > > > After this command interface is sending LCP-CONF-REQUEST. > Also getting the LCP-CONF-ACK from the remote system. > > Sending and receiving of REQ and ACK is going on ,but after getting > ACK sppp is not sending next phase (IPCP) packet to remote system. > > Pls help me in fixing this.Pls let me know any pointers regarding this. > > > Regards, > Rashmi > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Dec 14 14:46:53 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AEFC316A41F for ; Wed, 14 Dec 2005 14:46:53 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from nalists@scls.lib.wi.us) Received: from mail.scls.lib.wi.us (mail.scls.lib.wi.us [198.150.40.25]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 278F743D55 for ; Wed, 14 Dec 2005 14:46:52 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from nalists@scls.lib.wi.us) Received: from [172.26.2.238] ([172.26.2.238]) by mail.scls.lib.wi.us (8.12.9p2/8.12.9) with ESMTP id jBEEkqG1032364 for ; Wed, 14 Dec 2005 08:46:52 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from nalists@scls.lib.wi.us) Message-ID: <43A0305C.9050405@scls.lib.wi.us> Date: Wed, 14 Dec 2005 08:46:52 -0600 From: Greg Barniskis User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.7 (Windows/20050923) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <439F3E96.5090101@ntlworld.com> <20051213215647.GA27582@slackbox.xs4all.nl> <20051213233143.GB27219@holestein.holy.cow> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Off-Topic X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 14 Dec 2005 14:46:53 -0000 Pietro Cerutti wrote: > I'm for this one: > > The best way to accellerate a computer running Windows is at 9.81 m/s^2 > > by Roland > > It's wonderful! I concur. Physics is fun (I know, I'm sick), so I'd add to that: For best results, continue until the PC's speed exceeds 11.2 km/s. 8D From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Dec 14 14:51:06 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A99DD16A41F for ; Wed, 14 Dec 2005 14:51:06 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from roberto.nunnari@supsi.ch) Received: from mail.dti.supsi.ch (mail.dti.supsi.ch [193.5.153.13]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1B8C243D5F for ; Wed, 14 Dec 2005 14:51:05 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from roberto.nunnari@supsi.ch) Received: from [193.5.152.27] (pcm2027.dti.supsi.ch [193.5.152.27]) by mail.dti.supsi.ch (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id jBEEp1jM008370 for ; Wed, 14 Dec 2005 15:51:01 +0100 Message-ID: <43A031B1.2030105@supsi.ch> Date: Wed, 14 Dec 2005 15:52:33 +0100 From: Roberto Nunnari User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.7 (Windows/20050923) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "'freebsd-questions@freebsd.org'" Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: grub doesn't know ufs filesystem X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 14 Dec 2005 14:51:06 -0000 Hello list. Please also reply to my mailbox, as I'm not on the list. Thank you. I have a old grub floppy that I use time to time to boot/recover pc with different OS.. Today I wanted to boot a freebsd 5.3-RELEASE-p23 box, but to my surprise grub reported: Filesystem type unknown, partition type 0xa5 and thus cannot mount /boot/loader So I thought I'd make a grub floppy with a recent version, but even with version 0.97 things won't change.. # cd /usr/ports/sysutils/grub # make install # grub [ Minimal BASH-like line editing is supported. For the first word, TAB lists possible command completions. Anywhere else TAB lists the possible completions of a device/filename. ] grub> root (hd0,0,a) Filesystem type unknown, partition type 0xa5 grub> kernel /boot/loader Error 17: Cannot mount selected partition grub> root (hd0, Possible partitions are: Partition num: 0, [BSD sub-partitions immediately follow] BSD Partition num: 'a', Filesystem type unknown, partition type 0xa5 BSD Partition num: 'b', Filesystem type unknown, partition type 0xa5 BSD Partition num: 'd', Filesystem type unknown, partition type 0xa5 BSD Partition num: 'e', Filesystem type unknown, partition type 0xa5 BSD Partition num: 'f', Filesystem type unknown, partition type 0xa5 grub> quit # mount /dev/ad0s1a on / (ufs, local, soft-updates) devfs on /dev (devfs, local) /dev/ad0s1e on /tmp (ufs, local, soft-updates) /dev/ad0s1f on /usr (ufs, local, soft-updates) /dev/ad0s1d on /var (ufs, local, soft-updates) linprocfs on /usr/compat/linux/proc (linprocfs, local) devfs on /var/named/dev (devfs, local) Any hint/thought/advice? Best regards. -- Robi From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Dec 14 15:00:44 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3589D16A41F for ; Wed, 14 Dec 2005 15:00:44 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ml.diespammer@netfence.it) Received: from parrot.aev.net (parrot.aev.net [212.31.247.179]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6284A43D67 for ; Wed, 14 Dec 2005 15:00:41 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ml.diespammer@netfence.it) Received: from soth.ventu (adsl-ull-135-133.51-151.net24.it [151.51.133.135]) (authenticated bits=128) by parrot.aev.net (8.13.5/8.13.5) with ESMTP id jBEFGUlj039198 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=OK) for ; Wed, 14 Dec 2005 16:16:39 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from ml.diespammer@netfence.it) Received: from [10.1.2.18] (alamar.ventu [10.1.2.18]) (authenticated bits=0) by soth.ventu (8.13.5/8.13.3) with ESMTP id jBEF02ko006074 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=OK) for ; Wed, 14 Dec 2005 16:00:03 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from ml.diespammer@netfence.it) Message-ID: <43A03389.4090007@netfence.it> Date: Wed, 14 Dec 2005 16:00:25 +0100 From: Andrea Venturoli User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.7 (X11/20051202) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.53 on 212.31.247.179 X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.53 on 10.1.2.13 Subject: 4_stable changelog X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 14 Dec 2005 15:00:44 -0000 Hello. Since a server of mine is behaving strangely lately, and since I've seen some patches going round lately, I'm considering upgrading from 4.11 (latest patchlevel) to 4-STABLE. I downloaded the source, but /usr/src/UPDATING says almost nothing. Is there any available changelog or something similar? Just to know what I'd go through... bye & Thanks av. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Dec 14 15:17:57 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9D21A16A41F for ; Wed, 14 Dec 2005 15:17:57 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from martin@dc.cis.okstate.edu) Received: from dc.cis.okstate.edu (dc.cis.okstate.edu [139.78.100.219]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 493DE43D68 for ; Wed, 14 Dec 2005 15:17:57 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from martin@dc.cis.okstate.edu) Received: from dc.cis.okstate.edu (localhost.cis.okstate.edu [127.0.0.1]) by dc.cis.okstate.edu (8.12.6/8.12.6) with ESMTP id jBEFHuhn072778 for ; Wed, 14 Dec 2005 09:17:56 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from martin@dc.cis.okstate.edu) Message-Id: <200512141517.jBEFHuhn072778@dc.cis.okstate.edu> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Wed, 14 Dec 2005 09:17:56 -0600 From: Martin McCormick Subject: Expect-5.32.1 and Hangups when Spawning a Shell X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 14 Dec 2005 15:17:57 -0000 Has anyone seen a condition in FreeBSD4.7 in which expect-5.32.1 randomly hangs when spawning a shell? I got this idea from running autoexpect: spawn $env(SHELL) Then, I would look for the prompt and begin executing commands. About every 20 or 30 times, no shell spawns and the script just hangs there with 1 virtual terminal seized until someone kills the process. Since the particular expect script is run automaticly, one can run out of tty's in a few weeks if this happens often enough or one doesn't clean house regularly. What I recently tried is to set conservative mode to 1 so it will output data more slowly although I can't imagine how this really helps. Strangely enough, it has been several days since I made the change and I haven't had to zap one single expect script. Is that just coincidence or could the timing of the spawn command actually matter? Remember, this is before the shell ever starts. Here is what the beginning of the script now looks like: #!/usr/local/bin/expect -f if {$force_conservative} { set send_slow {1 .1} proc send {ignore arg} { sleep .1 exp_send -s -- $arg } } spawn $env(SHELL) match_max 100000 expect -exact "bash-2.05b# " When it fails, the prompt never appears. Any ideas as to why this occasionally happens or whether my slow-down of the "typed" output should help is much appreciated. Martin McCormick WB5AGZ Stillwater, OK OSU Information Technology Department Network Operations Group .-- -... ..... .- --. --.. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Dec 14 16:36:24 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1F3E016A41F for ; Wed, 14 Dec 2005 16:36:24 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from micahjon@ywave.com) Received: from smtpout1.ywave.com (ycomradius.yelmtel.com [216.227.100.60]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id B80B443D45 for ; Wed, 14 Dec 2005 16:36:23 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from micahjon@ywave.com) Received: (qmail 1249 invoked by uid 502); 14 Dec 2005 16:36:22 -0000 Received: from dsl28163.ywave.com (HELO ?192.168.1.65?) (micahjon@ywave.com@216.227.115.163) by 0 with SMTP; 14 Dec 2005 16:36:22 -0000 X-CLIENT-IP: 216.227.115.163 X-CLIENT-HOST: dsl28163.ywave.com Message-ID: <43A04A05.3060504@ywave.com> Date: Wed, 14 Dec 2005 08:36:21 -0800 From: Micah User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.7 (X11/20051204) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Roberto Nunnari References: <43A031B1.2030105@supsi.ch> In-Reply-To: <43A031B1.2030105@supsi.ch> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: "'freebsd-questions@freebsd.org'" Subject: Re: grub doesn't know ufs filesystem X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 14 Dec 2005 16:36:24 -0000 Roberto Nunnari wrote: > Hello list. > > Please also reply to my mailbox, as I'm not on the list. > Thank you. > > I have a old grub floppy that I use time to time to > boot/recover pc with different OS.. Today I wanted to > boot a freebsd 5.3-RELEASE-p23 box, but to my surprise > grub reported: > > Filesystem type unknown, partition type 0xa5 > > and thus cannot mount /boot/loader > > So I thought I'd make a grub floppy with a recent version, > but even with version 0.97 things won't change.. > > # cd /usr/ports/sysutils/grub > # make install > # grub > [ Minimal BASH-like line editing is supported. For the first word, TAB > lists possible command completions. Anywhere else TAB lists the > possible > completions of a device/filename. ] > > grub> root (hd0,0,a) > Filesystem type unknown, partition type 0xa5 > > grub> kernel /boot/loader > > Error 17: Cannot mount selected partition > > grub> root (hd0, > Possible partitions are: > Partition num: 0, [BSD sub-partitions immediately follow] > BSD Partition num: 'a', Filesystem type unknown, partition type 0xa5 > BSD Partition num: 'b', Filesystem type unknown, partition type 0xa5 > BSD Partition num: 'd', Filesystem type unknown, partition type 0xa5 > BSD Partition num: 'e', Filesystem type unknown, partition type 0xa5 > BSD Partition num: 'f', Filesystem type unknown, partition type 0xa5 > > grub> quit > > # mount > /dev/ad0s1a on / (ufs, local, soft-updates) > devfs on /dev (devfs, local) > /dev/ad0s1e on /tmp (ufs, local, soft-updates) > /dev/ad0s1f on /usr (ufs, local, soft-updates) > /dev/ad0s1d on /var (ufs, local, soft-updates) > linprocfs on /usr/compat/linux/proc (linprocfs, local) > devfs on /var/named/dev (devfs, local) > > Any hint/thought/advice? > > Best regards. I just installed grub from ports and duplicated your test and it works fine. I'd start by checking your installation and making sure you don't have any other grubs in your path. Some of the grubs that ship with Linux distros do not support ufs. Do a find/locate on grub to see what turns up. Do a which grub, you should get /usr/local/sbin/grub. If not, issue /usr/local/sbin/grub from a command prompt and duplicate your test. If that's broken, make sure your ports tree is up to date, make sure /usr/ports/devel/autoconf259 /usr/ports/devel/automake19 /usr/ports/devel/gmake are up to date (grub's build dependancies) then deinstall, clean, and reintsall the grub port. HTH, Micah From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Dec 14 16:38:20 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 290A916A41F for ; Wed, 14 Dec 2005 16:38:20 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from kdk@daleco.biz) Received: from ezekiel.daleco.biz (southernuniform.com [66.76.92.18]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8EFC943D6D for ; Wed, 14 Dec 2005 16:38:17 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from kdk@daleco.biz) Received: from [192.168.2.2] ([69.27.149.254]) by ezekiel.daleco.biz (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id jBEGbA7w051239; Wed, 14 Dec 2005 10:37:30 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from kdk@daleco.biz) Message-ID: <43A04A2C.4060006@daleco.biz> Date: Wed, 14 Dec 2005 10:37:00 -0600 From: Kevin Kinsey User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.7.12) Gecko/20051026 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Andrea Venturoli References: <43A03389.4090007@netfence.it> In-Reply-To: <43A03389.4090007@netfence.it> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: 4_stable changelog X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 14 Dec 2005 16:38:20 -0000 Andrea Venturoli wrote: > Hello. > Since a server of mine is behaving strangely lately, and since I've seen > some patches going round lately, I'm considering upgrading from 4.11 > (latest patchlevel) to 4-STABLE. > I downloaded the source, but /usr/src/UPDATING says almost nothing. > Is there any available changelog or something similar? > Just to know what I'd go through... > > bye & Thanks > av. > Well, the entire source tree is in CVS; and there is a web interface. Kevin Kinsey -- The fashion wears out more apparel than the man. -- William Shakespeare, Much Ado About Nothing From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Dec 14 17:08:53 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DED7016A41F for ; Wed, 14 Dec 2005 17:08:53 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ml.diespammer@netfence.it) Received: from parrot.aev.net (parrot.aev.net [212.31.247.179]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2891043D6D for ; Wed, 14 Dec 2005 17:08:52 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ml.diespammer@netfence.it) Received: from soth.ventu (adsl-ull-135-133.51-151.net24.it [151.51.133.135]) (authenticated bits=128) by parrot.aev.net (8.13.5/8.13.5) with ESMTP id jBEHOn66071970 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=OK) for ; Wed, 14 Dec 2005 18:24:55 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from ml.diespammer@netfence.it) Received: from [10.1.2.18] (alamar.ventu [10.1.2.18]) (authenticated bits=0) by soth.ventu (8.13.5/8.13.3) with ESMTP id jBEH87JF021768 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=OK); Wed, 14 Dec 2005 18:08:08 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from ml.diespammer@netfence.it) Message-ID: <43A0518F.3030605@netfence.it> Date: Wed, 14 Dec 2005 18:08:31 +0100 From: Andrea Venturoli User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.7 (X11/20051202) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Kevin Kinsey , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <43A03389.4090007@netfence.it> <43A04A2C.4060006@daleco.biz> In-Reply-To: <43A04A2C.4060006@daleco.biz> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.53 on 212.31.247.179 X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.53 on 10.1.2.13 Cc: Subject: Re: 4_stable changelog X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 14 Dec 2005 17:08:54 -0000 Kevin Kinsey wrote: > Andrea Venturoli wrote: > >> Hello. >> Since a server of mine is behaving strangely lately, and since I've seen >> some patches going round lately, I'm considering upgrading from 4.11 >> (latest patchlevel) to 4-STABLE. >> I downloaded the source, but /usr/src/UPDATING says almost nothing. >> Is there any available changelog or something similar? >> Just to know what I'd go through... >> >> bye & Thanks >> av. >> > > Well, the entire source tree is in CVS; and there is a web > interface. Where? I had tought about it, but grom the site I've only found it for the kernel. bye & Thanks av. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Dec 14 17:10:35 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B61FD16A41F for ; Wed, 14 Dec 2005 17:10:35 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from kline@tao.thought.org) Received: from tao.thought.org (dsl231-043-140.sea1.dsl.speakeasy.net [216.231.43.140]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5F9BE43D79 for ; Wed, 14 Dec 2005 17:10:23 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from kline@tao.thought.org) Received: from tao.thought.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by tao.thought.org (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id jBEHAGcL041570; Wed, 14 Dec 2005 09:10:16 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from kline@tao.thought.org) Received: (from kline@localhost) by tao.thought.org (8.13.1/8.13.1/Submit) id jBEHAGTw041569; Wed, 14 Dec 2005 09:10:16 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from kline) Date: Wed, 14 Dec 2005 09:10:14 -0800 From: Gary Kline To: FreeBSD Mailing List Message-ID: <20051214171014.GB37495@thought.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i X-Organization: Thought Unlimited. Public service Unix since 1986. X-Of_Interest: Observing 19 years of service to the Unix community Cc: Subject: Re: fquestions X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 14 Dec 2005 17:10:35 -0000 On Wed, Dec 14, 2005 at 07:09:39AM +0000, Gary Kline wrote: I'm looking at buying a Celeron 3GHz m'board with the Via chipset. I'm not familiar with the via, but according to the Bsdforums, it works with FBSD. Does anybody know what kind of builtin audio of video is onboard? In other words, is this a good deal? gary -- Gary Kline kline@thought.org www.thought.org Public service Unix From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Dec 14 17:13:15 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8CFC616A41F for ; Wed, 14 Dec 2005 17:13:15 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from pietro.cerutti@gmail.com) Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.202]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2A6FA43D64 for ; Wed, 14 Dec 2005 17:13:14 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from pietro.cerutti@gmail.com) Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id n1so199033nzf for ; Wed, 14 Dec 2005 09:13:13 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=b5QcfSvgngjqIf+sq4e6VHbkc4Hy1jxm8EchAidtzHtgJzFZB2bQAxcc1hG0lZUpxHGOMQxM9BgeQQs2qJGiVq97Q6gdLAVWRMA661/Q7qp+NIdky+Pd1bnI9oNZmtySLHNTPLv2LlZ2BYHCmuNYI2P9VfqwbJG/2CTSucOVPdc= Received: by 10.64.232.18 with SMTP id e18mr585018qbh; Wed, 14 Dec 2005 09:13:10 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.64.150.18 with HTTP; Wed, 14 Dec 2005 09:13:09 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: Date: Wed, 14 Dec 2005 18:13:09 +0100 From: Pietro Cerutti To: Andrea Venturoli , questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <43A0518F.3030605@netfence.it> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline References: <43A03389.4090007@netfence.it> <43A04A2C.4060006@daleco.biz> <43A0518F.3030605@netfence.it> Cc: Subject: Re: 4_stable changelog X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 14 Dec 2005 17:13:15 -0000 On 12/14/05, Andrea Venturoli wrote: > Kevin Kinsey wrote: > > Andrea Venturoli wrote: > > > >> Hello. > >> Since a server of mine is behaving strangely lately, and since I've se= en > >> some patches going round lately, I'm considering upgrading from 4.11 > >> (latest patchlevel) to 4-STABLE. > >> I downloaded the source, but /usr/src/UPDATING says almost nothing. > >> Is there any available changelog or something similar? > >> Just to know what I'd go through... > >> > >> bye & Thanks > >> av. > >> > > > > Well, the entire source tree is in CVS; and there is a web > > interface. > > Where? > I had tought about it, but grom the site I've only found it for the kerne= l. http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/cvsweb.cgi/ > > bye & Thanks > av. ciao, -- Pietro Cerutti Beansidhe - SwiSS Death / Thrash Metal Windows: "Where do you want to go today?" Linux: "Where do you want to go tomorrow?" FreeBSD: "Are you guys coming or what?" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Dec 14 17:45:15 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0CF7A16A41F for ; Wed, 14 Dec 2005 17:45:15 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from work@ashleymoran.me.uk) Received: from mail.dc-servers.com (mail.dc-servers.com [83.243.101.206]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 24DB643D82 for ; Wed, 14 Dec 2005 17:45:09 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from work@ashleymoran.me.uk) Received: (qmail 17768 invoked by uid 399); 14 Dec 2005 17:47:18 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO alfie.jigsawhq.com) (work@ashleymoran.me.uk@213.106.224.113) by mail.dc-servers.com with SMTP; 14 Dec 2005 17:47:18 -0000 From: Ashley Moran Organization: Codeweavers Ltd To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Wed, 14 Dec 2005 17:44:05 +0000 User-Agent: KMail/1.8.3 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200512141744.05856.work@ashleymoran.me.uk> Subject: Problem adding user with pw X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 14 Dec 2005 17:45:15 -0000 Please forgive me if I've missed something obvious, but I've googled for this error and get no results. I want to add a new user with the pw command: root@alfie# cat /etc/pw.conf shellpath = /bin,/usr/bin/,/usr/local/bin shell = sh,csh,tcsh,bash defaultshell = bash root@alfie# which bash /usr/local/bin/bash but ... root@alfie# pw useradd testuser pw: no default shell available or defined Does anyone know why I get this error message? Thanks Ashley From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Dec 14 17:48:44 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2B44716A424 for ; Wed, 14 Dec 2005 17:48:44 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@amadeus.demon.nl) Received: from post-24.mail.nl.demon.net (post-24.mail.nl.demon.net [194.159.73.194]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F350243D5D for ; Wed, 14 Dec 2005 17:48:42 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@amadeus.demon.nl) Received: from amadeus.demon.nl ([82.161.18.200]:55839 helo=[10.0.1.2]) by post-24.mail.nl.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1Emak5-0001xD-Do; Wed, 14 Dec 2005 17:48:41 +0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v746.2) In-Reply-To: References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: <7E787746-B0C0-4CBD-B9D1-4E348C638B76@amadeus.demon.nl> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: freebsd-questions Date: Wed, 14 Dec 2005 18:48:37 +0100 To: user , FreeBSD Questions X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.746.2) Cc: Subject: Re: I need a better way to loop in the shell... X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 14 Dec 2005 17:48:44 -0000 On 14 dec 2005, at 05:44, user wrote: > > I always do loops in /bin/sh like this: > > for f in `cat file` ; do rm -rf $f ; done > > Easy. I like doing it like this. > > The problem is, when I am dealing with an input list that has multiple > words per line, this chops it up and treats every word as a new > line... > > For instance, lets say I have a file full of filenames, like this: > > # cat file > > 10,000 Maniacs MTV Unplugged - 01 - These Are Days.mp3 > 10,000 Maniacs MTV Unplugged - 02 - Eat For Two.mp3 > 10,000 Maniacs MTV Unplugged - 03 - Candy Everybody Wants.mp3 > > and I try to use the above loop on it, it thinks that every word is > a line > ... the above loop will attempt to delete the following files: > > 10,000 > Maniacs > MTV > Unplugged > - > 01 > - > These > > (and so on) > > Even if I quote the variable $f, like: > > for f in `cat file` ; do rm -rf "$f" ; done > > it still does the same thing. > > ----- > > So my question is, what is a nice simple way to loop in the shell, as > close to what I am doing above as possible, that does not have this > problem ? Should I just be using something other than `cat` ? Or > what ? > > THanks. > You can also try to store "cat file" into a variable: #!/bin/sh V=`cat file` for f in $V ; do rm -rf $f ; done Arno From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Dec 14 17:56:21 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3C3C216A41F for ; Wed, 14 Dec 2005 17:56:21 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from tofik@oxygen.az) Received: from mail.alkar.net (mail.alkar.net [195.248.191.95]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 903B443D46 for ; Wed, 14 Dec 2005 17:56:20 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from tofik@oxygen.az) Received: from [213.227.193.75] (HELO [192.168.0.177]) by mail.alkar.net (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.3.9) with ESMTP id 411444890; Wed, 14 Dec 2005 19:56:18 +0200 Message-ID: <43A078E8.30504@oxygen.az> Date: Wed, 14 Dec 2005 19:56:24 +0000 From: Tofik Suleymanov User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.2 (X11/20050404) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Ashley Moran References: <200512141744.05856.work@ashleymoran.me.uk> In-Reply-To: <200512141744.05856.work@ashleymoran.me.uk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Problem adding user with pw X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 14 Dec 2005 17:56:21 -0000 Ashley Moran wrote: >Please forgive me if I've missed something obvious, but I've googled for this >error and get no results. > >I want to add a new user with the pw command: > > root@alfie# cat /etc/pw.conf > shellpath = /bin,/usr/bin/,/usr/local/bin > shell = sh,csh,tcsh,bash > defaultshell = bash > > root@alfie# which bash > /usr/local/bin/bash > >but ... > > root@alfie# pw useradd testuser > pw: no default shell available or defined > >Does anyone know why I get this error message? > > >Thanks >Ashley >_______________________________________________ >freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list >http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions >To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > > maybe missing entry in /etc/shells ? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Dec 14 18:11:09 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D879616A41F for ; Wed, 14 Dec 2005 18:11:09 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from hde@daden.net) Received: from mail.ruder.net (216-166-252-178.dsl.peknil.grics.net [216.166.252.178]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 23E8D43D6E for ; Wed, 14 Dec 2005 18:11:05 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from hde@daden.net) Received: from 12.203.202.40 ([12.203.202.40]) by mail.ruder.net ([192.168.10.10]) with Microsoft Exchange Server HTTP-DAV ; Wed, 14 Dec 2005 18:10:56 +0000 Received: from devilBSD.freeBSD by mail.daden.net; 14 Dec 2005 12:10:55 -0600 From: "Harley D. Eades III" To: Frank Steinborn In-Reply-To: <20051214114239.GA28648@scott.blazing.de> References: <439FDA99.1030500@locolomo.org> <20051214114239.GA28648@scott.blazing.de> Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Date: Wed, 14 Dec 2005 12:10:55 -0600 Message-Id: <1134583855.34653.7.camel@devilBSD.freeBSD> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.2.1.1 FreeBSD GNOME Team Port Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Locale problems with perl X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 14 Dec 2005 18:11:10 -0000 On Wed, 2005-12-14 at 12:42 +0100, Frank Steinborn wrote: > Erik Norgaard wrote: > > Hi, > > > > I recently (two weeks ago) upgraded my system and all ports. But since > > then, whenever I install some perl module I get something like this: > > perl: warning: Setting locale failed. > > perl: warning: Please check that your locale settings: > > LC_ALL = (unset), > > LANG = "en_GB.ISO_8859-1" > > are supported and installed on your system. > > perl: warning: Falling back to the standard locale ("C"). > > It seems that perl has to be build at last. So if you upgrade some > port depending on perl and build perl afterwards, you will run into > this problem. Donk ask me why this is, but it worked for me. > > Frank > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" See section LOCALE PROBLEMS in `perldoc perllocale` for solutions to this error. --Harley -----BEGIN GEEK CODE BLOCK----- G: GCS-- d- a? C++++ B- E+++ W+++ N++ w--- X+++ b++ G e* r x+ z+++++ ------END GEEK CODE BLOCK------ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Dec 14 18:13:29 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 86B0C16A41F for ; Wed, 14 Dec 2005 18:13:29 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from hde@daden.net) Received: from mail.ruder.net (216-166-252-178.dsl.peknil.grics.net [216.166.252.178]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E105143D88 for ; Wed, 14 Dec 2005 18:13:22 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from hde@daden.net) Received: from 12.203.202.40 ([12.203.202.40]) by mail.ruder.net ([192.168.10.10]) with Microsoft Exchange Server HTTP-DAV ; Wed, 14 Dec 2005 18:13:22 +0000 Received: from devilBSD.freeBSD by mail.daden.net; 14 Dec 2005 12:13:21 -0600 From: "Harley D. Eades III" To: Micah In-Reply-To: <43A04A05.3060504@ywave.com> References: <43A031B1.2030105@supsi.ch> <43A04A05.3060504@ywave.com> Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Date: Wed, 14 Dec 2005 12:13:21 -0600 Message-Id: <1134584001.34653.8.camel@devilBSD.freeBSD> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.2.1.1 FreeBSD GNOME Team Port Cc: Roberto Nunnari , "'freebsd-questions@freebsd.org'" Subject: Re: grub doesn't know ufs filesystem X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 14 Dec 2005 18:13:29 -0000 On Wed, 2005-12-14 at 08:36 -0800, Micah wrote: > Roberto Nunnari wrote: > > Hello list. > > > > Please also reply to my mailbox, as I'm not on the list. > > Thank you. > > > > I have a old grub floppy that I use time to time to > > boot/recover pc with different OS.. Today I wanted to > > boot a freebsd 5.3-RELEASE-p23 box, but to my surprise > > grub reported: > > > > Filesystem type unknown, partition type 0xa5 > > > > and thus cannot mount /boot/loader > > > > So I thought I'd make a grub floppy with a recent version, > > but even with version 0.97 things won't change.. > > > > # cd /usr/ports/sysutils/grub > > # make install > > # grub > > [ Minimal BASH-like line editing is supported. For the first word, TAB > > lists possible command completions. Anywhere else TAB lists the > > possible > > completions of a device/filename. ] > > > > grub> root (hd0,0,a) > > Filesystem type unknown, partition type 0xa5 > > > > grub> kernel /boot/loader > > > > Error 17: Cannot mount selected partition > > > > grub> root (hd0, > > Possible partitions are: > > Partition num: 0, [BSD sub-partitions immediately follow] > > BSD Partition num: 'a', Filesystem type unknown, partition type 0xa5 > > BSD Partition num: 'b', Filesystem type unknown, partition type 0xa5 > > BSD Partition num: 'd', Filesystem type unknown, partition type 0xa5 > > BSD Partition num: 'e', Filesystem type unknown, partition type 0xa5 > > BSD Partition num: 'f', Filesystem type unknown, partition type 0xa5 > > > > grub> quit > > > > # mount > > /dev/ad0s1a on / (ufs, local, soft-updates) > > devfs on /dev (devfs, local) > > /dev/ad0s1e on /tmp (ufs, local, soft-updates) > > /dev/ad0s1f on /usr (ufs, local, soft-updates) > > /dev/ad0s1d on /var (ufs, local, soft-updates) > > linprocfs on /usr/compat/linux/proc (linprocfs, local) > > devfs on /var/named/dev (devfs, local) > > > > Any hint/thought/advice? > > > > Best regards. > > I just installed grub from ports and duplicated your test and it works > fine. I'd start by checking your installation and making sure you don't > have any other grubs in your path. Some of the grubs that ship with > Linux distros do not support ufs. Do a find/locate on grub to see what > turns up. Do a which grub, you should get /usr/local/sbin/grub. If > not, issue /usr/local/sbin/grub from a command prompt and duplicate your > test. If that's broken, make sure your ports tree is up to date, make > sure /usr/ports/devel/autoconf259 /usr/ports/devel/automake19 > /usr/ports/devel/gmake are up to date (grub's build dependancies) then > deinstall, clean, and reintsall the grub port. > > > HTH, > Micah > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" I can second this, I use grub all the time, as well as test grub2 on FreeBSD and both work great for me. --Harley -----BEGIN GEEK CODE BLOCK----- G: GCS-- d- a? C++++ B- E+++ W+++ N++ w--- X+++ b++ G e* r x+ z+++++ ------END GEEK CODE BLOCK------ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Dec 14 18:26:22 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0872116A41F for ; Wed, 14 Dec 2005 18:26:22 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from secnews@oxygen.az) Received: from mail.alkar.net (mail.alkar.net [195.248.191.95]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5F68143D58 for ; Wed, 14 Dec 2005 18:26:21 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from secnews@oxygen.az) Received: from [213.227.193.75] (HELO [192.168.0.177]) by mail.alkar.net (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.3.9) with ESMTP id 411458873; Wed, 14 Dec 2005 20:25:58 +0200 Message-ID: <43A07FC8.6040309@oxygen.az> Date: Wed, 14 Dec 2005 20:25:44 +0000 From: Tofik Suleymanov User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.2 (X11/20050404) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Kiffin Gish References: <000201c5ed25$3d253a70$2101a8c0@ZGISH> In-Reply-To: <000201c5ed25$3d253a70$2101a8c0@ZGISH> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Asterisk on FreeBSD, anyone? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 14 Dec 2005 18:26:22 -0000 Kiffin Gish wrote: >Has anyone had any experience running Asterisk on FreeBSD 5.x ? > >If so, then which drivers are required and what is the best way to install >the system? > >Thanks a lot in advance. > > > Successfully running asterisk (with sip functionality only) on FreeBSD-6.0 RELEASE. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Dec 14 18:30:07 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B5F4F16A41F for ; Wed, 14 Dec 2005 18:30:07 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from list-freebsd-2004@morbius.sent.com) Received: from out4.smtp.messagingengine.com (out4.smtp.messagingengine.com [66.111.4.28]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A1BBA43D66 for ; Wed, 14 Dec 2005 18:29:45 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from list-freebsd-2004@morbius.sent.com) Received: from frontend1.internal (mysql-sessions.internal [10.202.2.149]) by frontend1.messagingengine.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7E80ED22EF7 for ; Wed, 14 Dec 2005 13:29:42 -0500 (EST) Received: from frontend2.messagingengine.com ([10.202.2.151]) by frontend1.internal (MEProxy); Wed, 14 Dec 2005 13:29:42 -0500 X-Sasl-enc: 6/GNXscxJ48l9mzrdwG8ZbslAoKF2KKkrOrAi4DxKFuA 1134584981 Received: from gumby.localdomain (88-104-201-30.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com [88.104.201.30]) by frontend2.messagingengine.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 92C0E57146F for ; Wed, 14 Dec 2005 13:29:41 -0500 (EST) From: RW To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Wed, 14 Dec 2005 18:29:35 +0000 User-Agent: KMail/1.8.3 References: <43A031B1.2030105@supsi.ch> <43A04A05.3060504@ywave.com> In-Reply-To: <43A04A05.3060504@ywave.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200512141829.36933.list-freebsd-2004@morbius.sent.com> Subject: Re: grub doesn't know ufs filesystem X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 14 Dec 2005 18:30:07 -0000 On Wednesday 14 December 2005 16:36, Micah wrote: > Some of the grubs that ship with Linux distros > do not support ufs. I'm curious as to why people care about this so much. There are numerous threads about whether or not particular bootloaders support UFS. A bootloader needs to understand Linux filesystems to boot Linux off a logical partition, but BSDs slices are always on primary partitions. Is there really any advantage to going directly to /boot/loader, rather than simply chaining? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Dec 14 18:31:50 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4E7BE16A41F for ; Wed, 14 Dec 2005 18:31:50 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from nb_root@videotron.ca) Received: from relais.videotron.ca (relais.videotron.ca [24.201.245.36]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B9FD743D5D for ; Wed, 14 Dec 2005 18:31:43 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from nb_root@videotron.ca) Received: from clk01a ([66.130.198.54]) by VL-MO-MR002.ip.videotron.ca (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-2.05 (built Apr 28 2005)) with ESMTP id <0IRI006EL3GNZD40@VL-MO-MR002.ip.videotron.ca> for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Wed, 14 Dec 2005 13:31:37 -0500 (EST) Date: Wed, 14 Dec 2005 13:31:29 -0500 From: Nicolas Blais In-reply-to: <200512141744.05856.work@ashleymoran.me.uk> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-id: <200512141331.34809.nb_root@videotron.ca> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: multipart/signed; boundary=nextPart2733200.5nncThoZLY; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=pgp-sha1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit References: <200512141744.05856.work@ashleymoran.me.uk> User-Agent: KMail/1.8.3 Cc: Ashley Moran Subject: Re: Problem adding user with pw X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 14 Dec 2005 18:31:50 -0000 --nextPart2733200.5nncThoZLY Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline On December 14, 2005 12:44 pm, Ashley Moran wrote: > Please forgive me if I've missed something obvious, but I've googled for > this error and get no results. > > I want to add a new user with the pw command: > > root@alfie# cat /etc/pw.conf > shellpath =3D /bin,/usr/bin/,/usr/local/bin > shell =3D sh,csh,tcsh,bash > defaultshell =3D bash > > root@alfie# which bash > /usr/local/bin/bash > > but ... > > root@alfie# pw useradd testuser > pw: no default shell available or defined > > Does anyone know why I get this error message? > Not sure, but since bash is a localy installed shell, try: defaultshell =3D /usr/local/bin/bash =2D-=20 =46reeBSD 7.0-CURRENT #4: Sat Dec 10 11:55:08 EST 2005 =20 root@clk01a:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/CLK01A=20 PGP? (updated 16 Nov 05) : http://www.clkroot.net/security/nb_root.asc --nextPart2733200.5nncThoZLY Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.2 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQBDoGUG4wTBlvcsbJURAoFdAJwNK+yRxL3ucVMwDW9MCOC0e3q/OwCgwyAZ JiPdl/X0/F1T05TmJm4g9sU= =Nrph -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --nextPart2733200.5nncThoZLY-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Dec 14 18:49:09 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 35AC916A422 for ; Wed, 14 Dec 2005 18:49:09 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from danial_thom@yahoo.com) Received: from web33309.mail.mud.yahoo.com (web33309.mail.mud.yahoo.com [68.142.206.124]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 7C68543D5A for ; Wed, 14 Dec 2005 18:49:07 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from danial_thom@yahoo.com) Received: (qmail 4600 invoked by uid 60001); 14 Dec 2005 18:49:06 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:Received:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=ztfQjqPJ/QCTls2I8T4waWVjs0zuieGOmmKQ1fYwrhpW03TSIS+FyLLwJtWfo9S9umv9JIAima1L+b3PdDKzDu8LzDXN0u1QVAJ7tEgUbSXQ+wTp2lg2atOu8+GbHbuGytpPxngYPWBdMJNeFwic52pZlDUBU+7Pn/1ri2IXTDc= ; Message-ID: <20051214184906.4598.qmail@web33309.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Received: from [24.46.186.215] by web33309.mail.mud.yahoo.com via HTTP; Wed, 14 Dec 2005 10:49:06 PST Date: Wed, 14 Dec 2005 10:49:06 -0800 (PST) From: Danial Thom To: Ted Mittelstaedt , Cezar Fistik , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Cc: Subject: RE: Re[2]: Polling For 100 mbps Connections? (Was Re: Freebsd ThemeSong) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: danial_thom@yahoo.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 14 Dec 2005 18:49:09 -0000 --- Ted Mittelstaedt wrote: > > > >-----Original Message----- > >From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > >[mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]On > Behalf Of Danial Thom > >Sent: Tuesday, December 13, 2005 11:08 AM > >To: Cezar Fistik; > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > >Subject: Re: Re[2]: Polling For 100 mbps > Connections? (Was Re: Freebsd > >ThemeSong) > > > > > > > > > >--- Cezar Fistik wrote: > > > >> Hello, > >> > >> Just a remark. I'm using an "Intel PRO/1000 > MT > >> Dual Port Gigabit Copper > >> CAT5 Server PCI express Adapter" in a box > >> serving as router. Pumping 150Mbps > >> through it with 99% idle CPU and 1% > interrupts, > >> polling enabled. It's > >> a litle bit expensive, but it does its job > >> perfectly. > >> > > > >If you read my last post about polling with > intel > >cards, you're realize just how foolish your > >analysis is. > > > > Maybe he tried pumping the 150Mbps with polling > turned > off and the CPU utilization skyrocketed? > > Ted Or maybe FreeBSD just sucks wind? I promise you that no machine known to man can pass 150Mb/s and be 99% idle. Get a god-damned clue for pete's sake. All polling does is screw up accounting so the timings are wrong. At best there's a marginal difference in performance. You still have to process the packets. Lets see, this "Test" would mean that his box could handle 100 x 150Mb/s, or 15Gb/s. Thats quite a little router you have there! lol. DT __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Dec 14 18:51:27 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 839A516A41F for ; Wed, 14 Dec 2005 18:51:27 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from cswiger@mac.com) Received: from pi.codefab.com (pi.codefab.com [199.103.21.227]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2037343D8A for ; Wed, 14 Dec 2005 18:51:10 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from cswiger@mac.com) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pi.codefab.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B3C266049; Wed, 14 Dec 2005 13:51:08 -0500 (EST) Received: from pi.codefab.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (pi.codefab.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 29668-03; Wed, 14 Dec 2005 13:51:07 -0500 (EST) Received: from [199.103.21.238] (pan.codefab.com [199.103.21.238]) (using TLSv1 with cipher RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by pi.codefab.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id DCF185FCC; Wed, 14 Dec 2005 13:51:07 -0500 (EST) In-Reply-To: <20051214171014.GB37495@thought.org> References: <20051214171014.GB37495@thought.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v746.2) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Charles Swiger Date: Wed, 14 Dec 2005 13:51:03 -0500 To: Gary Kline X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.746.2) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at codefab.com Cc: FreeBSD Mailing List Subject: Re: fquestions X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 14 Dec 2005 18:51:27 -0000 On Dec 14, 2005, at 12:10 PM, Gary Kline wrote: > I'm looking at buying a Celeron 3GHz m'board with the > Via chipset. I'm not familiar with the via, but according > to the Bsdforums, it works with FBSD. Does anybody know > what kind of builtin audio of video is onboard? In other > words, is this a good deal? You forgot to tell us which VIA chipset or MB-- there are lots and lots of VIA-based motherboards around, with a wide variety of hardware. I wouldn't get a Celeron + VIA combo; I'd rather use an Intel MB with an Intel CPU, and I'd much rather get a Pentium-3/-M CPU then a Celeron. Otherwise, go with an VIA socket-A motherboard and a Athlon- XP/Barton/Sempron CPU, those should be quite inexpensive and yet perform quite well. -- -Chuck From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Dec 14 18:58:01 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3B80116A41F for ; Wed, 14 Dec 2005 18:58:01 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from kline@tao.thought.org) Received: from tao.thought.org (dsl231-043-140.sea1.dsl.speakeasy.net [216.231.43.140]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 542D143D6A for ; Wed, 14 Dec 2005 18:57:59 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from kline@tao.thought.org) Received: from tao.thought.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by tao.thought.org (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id jBEIvkge042399 for ; Wed, 14 Dec 2005 10:57:55 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from kline@tao.thought.org) Received: (from kline@localhost) by tao.thought.org (8.13.1/8.13.1/Submit) id jBEIvhPt042398 for freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG; Wed, 14 Dec 2005 10:57:43 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from kline) Date: Wed, 14 Dec 2005 10:57:38 -0800 From: Gary Kline To: FreeBSD Mailing List Message-ID: <20051214185738.GB41870@thought.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i X-Organization: Thought Unlimited. Public service Unix since 1986. X-Of_Interest: Observing 19 years of service to the Unix community Cc: Subject: next question: dvd-burner. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 14 Dec 2005 18:58:01 -0000 I'm adding a DVD burner to my planned new platform. Since this is new technology, how careful do I have to be? In other words, does FreeBSD support most burners? Looks like the DVD/CDRW burner is a NEC... I'll 2-check. thanks in advance, gary -- Gary Kline kline@thought.org www.thought.org Public service Unix From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Dec 14 19:04:26 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C303216A41F for ; Wed, 14 Dec 2005 19:04:26 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from freebsd-questions-local@be-well.ilk.org) Received: from mail6.sea5.speakeasy.net (mail6.sea5.speakeasy.net [69.17.117.8]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5F65243D46 for ; Wed, 14 Dec 2005 19:04:26 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from freebsd-questions-local@be-well.ilk.org) Received: (qmail 29951 invoked from network); 14 Dec 2005 19:04:26 -0000 Received: from dsl092-078-145.bos1.dsl.speakeasy.net (HELO be-well.ilk.org) ([66.92.78.145]) (envelope-sender ) by mail6.sea5.speakeasy.net (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for ; 14 Dec 2005 19:04:25 -0000 Received: by be-well.ilk.org (Postfix, from userid 1147) id 6675B28420; Wed, 14 Dec 2005 14:04:24 -0500 (EST) Sender: lowell@be-well.ilk.org To: Odhiambo Washington References: <20051214081145.GE35115@ns2.wananchi.com> From: Lowell Gilbert Date: 14 Dec 2005 14:04:24 -0500 In-Reply-To: <20051214081145.GE35115@ns2.wananchi.com> Message-ID: <444q5b8pqf.fsf@be-well.ilk.org> Lines: 74 User-Agent: Gnus/5.09 (Gnus v5.9.0) Emacs/21.3 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Apache22 build error X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 14 Dec 2005 19:04:27 -0000 Odhiambo Washington writes: > I am still going through my upgrade woes since updating to 6.0-STABLE. > Perhaps what I am seeing now is different and not FreeBSD-specific but > it might be as well ;) > I completed my portupgrade -af yesterday. Now I am looking at moving > ahead with life on 6.0 platform, with new kids on the block. > > Compiling www/apache20 works fine, but www/apache22 fails viz: > > > config.status: creating docs/conf/httpd.conf > config.status: creating docs/conf/extra/httpd-autoindex.conf > config.status: creating docs/conf/extra/httpd-dav.conf > config.status: creating docs/conf/extra/httpd-default.conf > config.status: creating docs/conf/extra/httpd-info.conf > config.status: creating docs/conf/extra/httpd-languages.conf > config.status: creating docs/conf/extra/httpd-manual.conf > config.status: creating docs/conf/extra/httpd-mpm.conf > config.status: creating docs/conf/extra/httpd-multilang-errordoc.conf > config.status: creating docs/conf/extra/httpd-ssl.conf > config.status: creating docs/conf/extra/httpd-userdir.conf > config.status: creating docs/conf/extra/httpd-vhosts.conf > config.status: creating include/ap_config_layout.h > config.status: creating support/apxs > config.status: creating support/apachectl > config.status: creating support/dbmmanage > config.status: creating support/envvars-std > config.status: creating support/log_server_status > config.status: creating support/logresolve.pl > config.status: creating support/phf_abuse_log.cgi > config.status: creating support/split-logfile > config.status: creating build/rules.mk > config.status: creating build/pkg/pkginfo > config.status: creating build/config_vars.sh > config.status: creating include/ap_config_auto.h > config.status: executing default commands > /usr/bin/sed -i.bak -e "s,%%WWWOWN%%,www, ; s,%%WWWGRP%%,www, " /usr/ports/www/apache22/work/httpd-2.2.0/docs/conf/httpd.conf > ===> Building for apache-2.2.0_1 > Making all in srclib > Making all in pcre > /usr/local/build-1/libtool --silent --mode=compile cc -g -O2 -fno-strict-aliasing -pipe -I/usr/ports/www/apache22/work/httpd-2.2. > 0/srclib/pcre -I. -I/usr/ports/www/apache22/work/httpd-2.2.0/os/unix -I/usr/ports/www/apache22/work/httpd-2.2.0/server/mpm/prefork -I/u > sr/ports/www/apache22/work/httpd-2.2.0/modules/http -I/usr/ports/www/apache22/work/httpd-2.2.0/modules/filters -I/usr/ports/www/apache2 > 2/work/httpd-2.2.0/modules/proxy -I/usr/ports/www/apache22/work/httpd-2.2.0/include -I/usr/ports/www/apache22/work/httpd-2.2.0/modules/ > generators -I/usr/ports/www/apache22/work/httpd-2.2.0/modules/mappers -I/usr/ports/www/apache22/work/httpd-2.2.0/modules/database -I/us > r/local/include/apr-1 -I/usr/local/include -I/usr/ports/www/apache22/work/httpd-2.2.0/modules/proxy/../generators -I/usr/include -I/usr > /ports/www/apache22/work/httpd-2.2.0/modules/ssl -I/usr/ports/www/apache22/work/httpd-2.2.0/modules/dav/main -prefer-non-pic -static -c > maketables.c && touch maketables.lo > libtool: compile: unable to infer tagged configuration > libtool: compile: specify a tag with `--tag' > *** Error code 1 > > Stop in /usr/ports/www/apache22/work/httpd-2.2.0/srclib/pcre. > *** Error code 1 > > Stop in /usr/ports/www/apache22/work/httpd-2.2.0/srclib/pcre. > *** Error code 1 > > Stop in /usr/ports/www/apache22/work/httpd-2.2.0/srclib. > *** Error code 1 > > Stop in /usr/ports/www/apache22/work/httpd-2.2.0. > *** Error code 1 > > Stop in /usr/ports/www/apache22. > > > Anyone knows why it fails at this point and how i can fix it? Maybe it's using an incompatible version of libtool? Try removing libtool ports other than the one that it wants; if that fixes this problem, then inform the maintainers so they can call on a specific libtool version. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Dec 14 19:05:48 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D1F2216A41F for ; Wed, 14 Dec 2005 19:05:48 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ansarm@sympatico.ca) Received: from BAYC1-PASMTP10.bayc1.hotmail.com (bayc1-pasmtp10.bayc1.hotmail.com [65.54.191.170]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5FE4743D60 for ; Wed, 14 Dec 2005 19:05:48 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ansarm@sympatico.ca) Message-ID: X-Originating-IP: [70.51.122.150] X-Originating-Email: [ansarm@sympatico.ca] Received: from ansarmm2 ([70.51.122.150]) by BAYC1-PASMTP10.bayc1.hotmail.com over TLS secured channel with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.1830); Wed, 14 Dec 2005 11:06:06 -0800 From: "Ansar Mohammed" To: "'Parv'" , "'Chuck Swiger'" Date: Wed, 14 Dec 2005 14:06:22 -0500 Message-ID: <003701c600e1$7ba350a0$0405a8c0@northamerica.corp.microsoft.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 In-Reply-To: <20051214072232.GA34657@holestein.holy.cow> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2527 Thread-Index: AcYAfzlecxGc0b6JSC2Wui/XVOAbCQAYjrnw X-OriginalArrivalTime: 14 Dec 2005 19:06:06.0921 (UTC) FILETIME=[6FC12B90:01C600E1] Cc: 'f-q' Subject: RE: Getting the network traffic amount since the interface went up X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 14 Dec 2005 19:05:48 -0000 Try netstat -s > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org [mailto:owner-freebsd- > questions@freebsd.org] On Behalf Of Parv > Sent: December 14, 2005 2:23 AM > To: Chuck Swiger > Cc: f-q > Subject: Re: Getting the network traffic amount since the interface went > up > > in message <439FB80C.4050905@mac.com>, > wrote Chuck Swiger thusly... > > > > Parv wrote: > ... > > > Is there a way to find out the amount of traffic (in & out) > > > since a network interface has been up (not since the OS has been > > > up)? > > > > There are lots of solutions to this problem, it kinda depends on > > what you're trying to do. > > Well, actually i want to know the limit(s) (related to amount of > data and number of connections) at which SMC Barricade 7004ABR > router allows only the already established connections and refuses > to allow any new ones. This is all related to download a large > torrent via rtorrent. Rebooting the router solves the problem until > i decide to restart the download. > > > > You might set up an IPFW rule which matches just the traffic you > > care about, and look at "ipfw -a l". You can zero the counters at > > will if you like, too. From the ipfw manpage: > > > > Per-flow queueing can be useful for a variety of purposes. A > > very simple one is counting traffic: > > Thanks for bringing that to my attention as I mainly use ipf & have > not paid much of a look to ipfw. > > > - Parv > > -- > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions- > unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Dec 14 19:14:04 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 06F7316A41F for ; Wed, 14 Dec 2005 19:14:04 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from mark@mkproductions.org) Received: from pimout3-ext.prodigy.net (pimout3-ext.prodigy.net [207.115.63.102]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C12CD43D6B for ; Wed, 14 Dec 2005 19:13:56 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from mark@mkproductions.org) X-ORBL: [68.89.209.57] Received: from [192.168.1.25] (68-89-209-57.ded.swbell.net [68.89.209.57]) by pimout3-ext.prodigy.net (8.13.4 outbound domainkey aix/8.13.4) with ESMTP id jBEJDlBZ140242; Wed, 14 Dec 2005 14:13:54 -0500 Message-ID: <43A06EE8.7060105@mkproductions.org> Date: Wed, 14 Dec 2005 13:13:44 -0600 From: Mark Kane User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.7 (X11/20051130) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Gary Kline References: <20051214185738.GB41870@thought.org> In-Reply-To: <20051214185738.GB41870@thought.org> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.93.0.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="------------enig2360D9278DE942C809870781" Cc: FreeBSD Mailing List Subject: Re: next question: dvd-burner. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 14 Dec 2005 19:14:04 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) --------------enig2360D9278DE942C809870781 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Gary Kline wrote: > I'm adding a DVD burner to my planned new platform. > Since this is new technology, how careful do I have to > be? In other words, does FreeBSD support most burners? > Looks like the DVD/CDRW burner is a NEC... I'll 2-check. > > thanks in advance, > > gary > > So far I've had good luck with both DVD burners I've tried in FreeBSD. One was an old Sony DRU500A and the latest one that I have in two FreeBSD machines now is: acd0: DVDR at ata1-slave PIO4 The Sony finally died a few months ago after being in use since 2002. I replaced it with the LITE-ON and it has been working great. -Mark -- GnuPG Public Key: http://www.mkproductions.org/mk_pubkey.asc Internet Radio: Party107 (Trance/Electronic) - http://www.party107.com Rock 101.9 The Edge (Rock) - http://www.rock1019.net IRC: MIXXnet IRC Network - irc.mixxnet.net (Nick: MIXX941) --------------enig2360D9278DE942C809870781 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.2 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFDoG7qlH2ybcmj7I8RAj8WAKCrCc6zru/pNxm/qkC3y0uriNoBLACdHFpS tVx3H1I116JDalKMZW3XoIQ= =xL7V -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --------------enig2360D9278DE942C809870781-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Dec 14 19:14:28 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F2E0E16A41F for ; Wed, 14 Dec 2005 19:14:27 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from danial_thom@yahoo.com) Received: from web33311.mail.mud.yahoo.com (web33311.mail.mud.yahoo.com [68.142.206.126]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 3623D43D69 for ; Wed, 14 Dec 2005 19:14:27 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from danial_thom@yahoo.com) Received: (qmail 42239 invoked by uid 60001); 14 Dec 2005 19:13:32 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:Received:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=WrJMYnJ9IScXF0BIKbqdAArR/aeijhN4AQ9m+obL3KQeXOYmHdofmWJL1A2Lu6Es3a+770pxKO/4o+us2Nkr2qS6ChBbkkrDF64TGItOeegd/99lN9vWimCDeZik6Ts8s6UAs2HC3Yj69jkqUeAXqAEchVmW5OYxDCW7yRXhEYY= ; Message-ID: <20051214191332.42237.qmail@web33311.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Received: from [24.46.186.215] by web33311.mail.mud.yahoo.com via HTTP; Wed, 14 Dec 2005 11:13:32 PST Date: Wed, 14 Dec 2005 11:13:32 -0800 (PST) From: Danial Thom To: Ted Mittelstaedt , Drew Tomlinson In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: RE: Polling For 100 mbps Connections? (Was Re: Freebsd Theme Song) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: danial_thom@yahoo.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 14 Dec 2005 19:14:28 -0000 --- Ted Mittelstaedt wrote: > > > >-----Original Message----- > >From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > >[mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]On > Behalf Of Danial Thom > >Sent: Tuesday, December 13, 2005 11:07 AM > >To: Drew Tomlinson > >Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > >Subject: Re: Polling For 100 mbps Connections? > (Was Re: Freebsd Theme > >Song) > > > > > > > > > >--- Drew Tomlinson > >wrote: > > > >> Ted Mittelstaedt wrote, On 12/13/2005 12:44 > AM: > >> > >> > > >> > > >> >>-----Original Message----- > >> >>From: Drew Tomlinson > >> [mailto:drew@mykitchentable.net] > >> >>Sent: Monday, December 12, 2005 12:30 PM > >> >>To: Ted Mittelstaedt > >> >>Cc: Michael Vince; danial_thom@yahoo.com; > >> freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; > >> >>Kris Kennaway > >> >>Subject: Polling For 100 mbps Connections? > >> (Was Re: Freebsd Theme Song) > >> >> > >> >> > >> >>On 12/12/2005 8:13 AM Ted Mittelstaedt > wrote: > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >>>Michael, > >> >>> > >> >>> Fundamentally, here's the problem Danial > is > >> claiming exists: > >> >>> > >> >>>it takes a certain amount of time to get > the > >> packet clocked in > >> >>> > >> >>> > >> >>>from the network into the ethernet > receiver. > >> This is hardware > >> >> > >> >> > >> >>>dependent and cannot be changed. > >> >>> > >> >>>It takes a certain amount of time to get > the > >> packet out of > >> >>>the hardware in the ethernet card into > main > >> ram, this also > >> >>>hardware dependent and cannot be changed. > >> (unless the device > >> >>>driver is terribly inefficient, which we > >> will assume it's not) > >> >>> > >> >>>Once in main ram, the information in the > >> packet has to go through > >> >>>a number of code statements. The more > code > >> statements the > >> >>>longer the information in the packet is > >> sitting around in > >> >>>the FreeBSD system's memory. > >> >>> > >> >>>It then takes a certain amount of time to > >> get the information > >> >>>out of main memory into the other sending > >> ethernet nic's buffers, > >> >>> > >> >>>and it takes time to get it out of the > >> sending nic back to the > >> >>>wire. > >> >>> > >> >>>Danial is claiming the slowness is in the > >> main ram section of > >> >>>things, not in the ethernet driver code. > >> >>> > >> >>>polling makes the ethernet driver more > >> efficient at high data > >> >>>rates, but it does nothing for the speed > of > >> processing within > >> >>>the TCPIP stack itself. At low data > rates > >> polling is less > >> >>>efficient than the interrupt method. And > >> unless the nic driver > >> >>>is terribly inefficient to start with, > the > >> time it adds to the > >> >>>packet path in the system is minor > compared > >> to the time spent > >> >>>in the TCP/IP stack. > >> >>> > >> >>>Ted > >> >>> > >> >>> > >> >>> > >> >>> > >> >>Thanks for the explanation. So would > polling > >> be beneficial or > >> >>detrimental for a 100 mbps Ethernet card? > >> >> > >> >> > >> > > >> >Yes, if you were running 100Mbt's of > bandwidth > >> through it. > >> > > >> > > >> > >> I assume you mean "yes it's beneficial"? :) > > > >Thats just not true, or at least not globally. > >The right answer is: It depends on the > hardware. > >Polling should NEVER be used for hardware that > >has built-in hardware interrupt throttling > (such > >as fxp and em driver cards). polling has a LOT > of > >overhead. Hardware hold offs give you the > benefit > >of controlled interrupt reduction without > >adulterating your system with tons of extra > clock > >interrupts. This has been discussed over and > >over, and still some of the people who are > >supposed to know about this have no clue > >whatsoever. > > > > Well, if polling does no good for fxp, due to > the > hardware doing controlled interrupts, then why > does > the fxp driver even let you set it as an > option? > And why have many people who have enabled it on > fxp seen an improvement? They haven't, freebsd accounting doesn't work properly with polling enabled, and "they" don't have the ability to "know" if they are getting better performance, because "they", like you, have no clue what they're doing. How about all the idiots running MP with FreeBSD 4.x, when we know its just a waste of time? "they" all think they're getting worthwhile performance, because "they" are clueless. Maybe its tunable because they guy who wrote the driver made it a tunable? duh. I've yet to see one credible, controlled test that shows polling vs properly tuned interrupt-driven. The only advantage of polling is that it will drop packets instead of going into livelock. The disadvantage is that it will drop packets when you have momentary bursts that would harmlessly put the machine into livelock. Thats about it. > > I've read those datasheets as well and the > thing I > don't understand is that if you are pumping > 100Mbt > into an Etherexpress Pro/100 then if the card > will > not interrupt more than this throttled rate you > keep > talking about, then the card's interrupt > throttling > is going to limit the inbound bandwidth to > below > 100Mbt. Wrong again, Ted. It scares me that you consider yourself knowlegable about this. You can process #interrupts X ring_size packets; not one per interrupt. You're only polling 1000x per second (or whatever you have hz set to), so why do you think that you have to interrupt for every packet to do 100Mb/s? Do you not understand that packet processing is the same whether its done on a clock tick or a hardware interrupt? Do you not understand that a clock tick has more overhead (because of other assigned tasks)? Do you not understand that getting exactly 5000 hardware interrupts is much more efficient than having 5000 clock tick interrupts per second? What part of this don't you understand? DT __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Dec 14 19:20:16 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 62ED716A41F for ; Wed, 14 Dec 2005 19:20:16 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from gad@FreeBSD.org) Received: from smtp2.server.rpi.edu (smtp2.server.rpi.edu [128.113.2.2]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D4FD743D58 for ; Wed, 14 Dec 2005 19:20:15 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from gad@FreeBSD.org) Received: from [128.113.24.47] (gilead.netel.rpi.edu [128.113.24.47]) by smtp2.server.rpi.edu (8.13.0/8.13.0) with ESMTP id jBEJJsPN016991; Wed, 14 Dec 2005 14:19:58 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <43A03389.4090007@netfence.it> References: <43A03389.4090007@netfence.it> Date: Wed, 14 Dec 2005 14:19:53 -0500 To: Andrea Venturoli , freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org From: Garance A Drosehn Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" X-CanItPRO-Stream: default X-RPI-SA-Score: undef - spam-scanning disabled X-Scanned-By: CanIt (www . canit . ca) on 128.113.2.2 Cc: Subject: Re: 4_stable changelog X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 14 Dec 2005 19:20:16 -0000 At 4:00 PM +0100 12/14/05, Andrea Venturoli wrote: >Hello. >Since a server of mine is behaving strangely lately, and since >I've seen some patches going round lately, I'm considering >upgrading from 4.11 (latest patchlevel) to 4-STABLE. > >I downloaded the source, but /usr/src/UPDATING says almost >nothing. Is there any available changelog or something similar? >Just to know what I'd go through... /usr/src/UPDATING only adds new entries to describe "unusual issues" that you need to be careful about for when updating from "before" a given date to "after" that date. Very little has changed in the 4-STABLE branch since 4.11 was released, and nothing has been changed which people need special updating instructions for. -- Garance Alistair Drosehn = gad@gilead.netel.rpi.edu Senior Systems Programmer or gad@FreeBSD.org Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute; Troy, NY; USA From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Dec 14 19:21:12 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 67C6016A41F for ; Wed, 14 Dec 2005 19:21:12 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from kline@tao.thought.org) Received: from tao.thought.org (dsl231-043-140.sea1.dsl.speakeasy.net [216.231.43.140]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C2BFC43D5D for ; Wed, 14 Dec 2005 19:21:11 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from kline@tao.thought.org) Received: from tao.thought.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by tao.thought.org (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id jBEJLApj042829; Wed, 14 Dec 2005 11:21:10 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from kline@tao.thought.org) Received: (from kline@localhost) by tao.thought.org (8.13.1/8.13.1/Submit) id jBEJLAtE042828; Wed, 14 Dec 2005 11:21:10 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from kline) Date: Wed, 14 Dec 2005 11:21:09 -0800 From: Gary Kline To: Charles Swiger Message-ID: <20051214192109.GD41870@thought.org> References: <20051214171014.GB37495@thought.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i X-Organization: Thought Unlimited. Public service Unix since 1986. X-Of_Interest: Observing 19 years of service to the Unix community Cc: Gary Kline , FreeBSD Mailing List Subject: Re: fquestions X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 14 Dec 2005 19:21:12 -0000 On Wed, Dec 14, 2005 at 01:51:03PM -0500, Charles Swiger wrote: > On Dec 14, 2005, at 12:10 PM, Gary Kline wrote: > > I'm looking at buying a Celeron 3GHz m'board with the > > Via chipset. I'm not familiar with the via, but according > > to the Bsdforums, it works with FBSD. Does anybody know > > what kind of builtin audio of video is onboard? In other > > words, is this a good deal? > > You forgot to tell us which VIA chipset or MB-- there are lots and > lots of VIA-based motherboards around, with a wide variety of hardware. Here's the URL on the board. It looks okay, but then it was written by salesmen:). I'm flying blind here. http://www.pcchips.com.tw/PCCWeb/Products/ProductsDetail.aspx?DetailID=358&MenuID=22&LanID=2 > > I wouldn't get a Celeron + VIA combo; I'd rather use an Intel MB with > an Intel CPU, and I'd much rather get a Pentium-3/-M CPU then a > Celeron. Otherwise, go with an VIA socket-A motherboard and a Athlon- > XP/Barton/Sempron CPU, those should be quite inexpensive and yet > perform quite well. > My hardware days date from the Vax 11/70, and it's hard to keep track. But here's another question: What's wrong with the Celeron? The "better" Intel would be another $100. Re the Athlon, yes, it is a bit less, but doesn't it run hotter than the Intel? Half of my platforms are Celeron and I push them hard, but if AMD is just as good, then that's the way to go. thanks much, gary -- Gary Kline kline@thought.org www.thought.org Public service Unix From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Dec 14 19:23:36 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9D08E16A430 for ; Wed, 14 Dec 2005 19:23:36 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from sasa@stupar.homelinux.net) Received: from avs4.arnes.si (avs4.arnes.si [193.2.1.77]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A2E5143D62 for ; Wed, 14 Dec 2005 19:23:35 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from sasa@stupar.homelinux.net) Received: from localhost (avs4.arnes.si [193.2.1.77]) by avs4.arnes.si (Postfix) with ESMTP id 219912C352B for ; Wed, 14 Dec 2005 20:23:34 +0100 (CET) Received: from avs4.arnes.si ([193.2.1.77]) by localhost (avs4.arnes.si [193.2.1.77]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 94840-08 for ; Wed, 14 Dec 2005 20:23:33 +0100 (CET) Received: from xmail.homelinux.net (cmb16-74.dial-up.arnes.si [194.249.51.74]) by avs4.arnes.si (Postfix) with ESMTP id AE7372C3511 for ; Wed, 14 Dec 2005 20:23:01 +0100 (CET) Received: from [192.168.10.249] ([192.168.10.249]) (authenticated bits=0) by xmail.homelinux.net (8.13.5/8.13.3) with ESMTP id jBEJN0Cd026621 for ; Wed, 14 Dec 2005 20:23:00 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from sasa@stupar.homelinux.net) Date: Wed, 14 Dec 2005 20:23:05 +0100 From: Sasa Stupar To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: X-Mailer: Mulberry/3.1.6 (Win32) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV version 0.87.1, clamav-milter version 0.87 on mig29.workgroup X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at arnes.si Subject: RE: Polling For 100 mbps Connections? (Was Re: Freebsd Theme Song) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 14 Dec 2005 19:23:36 -0000 I also use polling on my Intel Pro/100S and I get inscrease of almoast 100% in speed. OK, My machine is Celeron 433 with 256 MB RAM and it is used as router. With iperf between DMZ and LAN with polling enabled I reach speed of 90 Mbit and without polling I can get speed only about 58 Mbit. So for me polling is good and I'll keep on using it. -- Sasa Stupar From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Dec 14 19:44:51 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C7CFA16A457 for ; Wed, 14 Dec 2005 19:44:51 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from cswiger@mac.com) Received: from pi.codefab.com (pi.codefab.com [199.103.21.227]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C897943D49 for ; Wed, 14 Dec 2005 19:44:49 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from cswiger@mac.com) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pi.codefab.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B5B695FDA; Wed, 14 Dec 2005 14:44:48 -0500 (EST) Received: from pi.codefab.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (pi.codefab.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 54024-07; Wed, 14 Dec 2005 14:44:41 -0500 (EST) Received: from [199.103.21.238] (pan.codefab.com [199.103.21.238]) (using TLSv1 with cipher RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by pi.codefab.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6CC9A5F84; Wed, 14 Dec 2005 14:44:41 -0500 (EST) In-Reply-To: <20051214192109.GD41870@thought.org> References: <20051214171014.GB37495@thought.org> <20051214192109.GD41870@thought.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v746.2) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: <7088318B-3141-44E6-9F50-CB51F6CAE501@mac.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Charles Swiger Date: Wed, 14 Dec 2005 14:44:40 -0500 To: Gary Kline X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.746.2) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at codefab.com Cc: FreeBSD Mailing List Subject: Re: fquestions X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 14 Dec 2005 19:44:52 -0000 On Dec 14, 2005, at 2:21 PM, Gary Kline wrote: >> You forgot to tell us which VIA chipset or MB-- there are lots and >> lots of VIA-based motherboards around, with a wide variety of >> hardware. > > Here's the URL on the board. It looks okay, but then it was > written by salesmen:). I'm flying blind here. > > http://www.pcchips.com.tw/PCCWeb/Products/ProductsDetail.aspx? > DetailID=358&MenuID=22&LanID=2 The onboard graphics is "embedded UniChromeII 3D Graphics, 64M share memory", which I do not believe is supported well under X11, you're better off getting a real video card unless you're going to be working remotely or headless. The embedded AC97 audio controller probably will work, though, as should the onboard VT6103 NIC. >> I wouldn't get a Celeron + VIA combo; I'd rather use an Intel MB with >> an Intel CPU, and I'd much rather get a Pentium-3/-M CPU then a >> Celeron. Otherwise, go with an VIA socket-A motherboard and a >> Athlon- >> XP/Barton/Sempron CPU, those should be quite inexpensive and yet >> perform quite well. >> > > My hardware days date from the Vax 11/70, and it's hard to > keep track. But here's another question: What's wrong with > the Celeron? The "better" Intel would be another $100. The Celeron's have about half to 1/4th as much L2 cache as the better CPU. For some specific tasks, like pure routing, it won't matter, but for almost anything else a P3 is a much better performer. > Re the Athlon, yes, it is a bit less, but doesn't it run > hotter than the Intel? Half of my platforms are Celeron > and I push them hard, but if AMD is just as good, then that's > the way to go. It depends on the AMD model, the Semprons are going to run around 40W, whereas the older Althons and the Barton cores are in the mid-60W range. I've got a 80mm fan on my AMD3200+ Barton, but it runs cooler than a similar 2.4GHz P4 box. Most P4's want 70W or more, but on the other hand, the Celerons and P3's are around 35W. -- -Chuck From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Dec 14 19:57:59 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 887FF16A41F for ; Wed, 14 Dec 2005 19:57:59 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from pietro.cerutti@gmail.com) Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.195]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A7E0C43D66 for ; Wed, 14 Dec 2005 19:57:55 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from pietro.cerutti@gmail.com) Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id o37so249552nzf for ; Wed, 14 Dec 2005 11:57:53 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=t3qzIapQYmcJGhXKXSYHjKkRQyF739VpqBqRcQy44wFnq11qqKnU7x2dLWN1eaQckdjgcuN/F1e2TgM84nzHp7dGt4g99Nd1PfqjY7fxdYwrDCVQkp+8HUP37v4ZPisx1/XTxKc/1KkCirvmw77oda/g/divS8/tq6XCBCsbW1g= Received: by 10.64.251.5 with SMTP id y5mr730189qbh; Wed, 14 Dec 2005 11:57:52 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.64.150.18 with HTTP; Wed, 14 Dec 2005 11:57:52 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: Date: Wed, 14 Dec 2005 20:57:52 +0100 From: Pietro Cerutti To: FreeBSD In-Reply-To: <43A06EE8.7060105@mkproductions.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline References: <20051214185738.GB41870@thought.org> <43A06EE8.7060105@mkproductions.org> Subject: Re: next question: dvd-burner. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 14 Dec 2005 19:57:59 -0000 On 12/14/05, Mark Kane wrote: > Gary Kline wrote: > > I'm adding a DVD burner to my planned new platform. > > Since this is new technology, how careful do I have to > > be? In other words, does FreeBSD support most burners? > > Looks like the DVD/CDRW burner is a NEC... I'll 2-check. > > > > thanks in advance, > > > > gary > > > > > > So far I've had good luck with both DVD burners I've tried in FreeBSD. > One was an old Sony DRU500A and the latest one that I have in two > FreeBSD machines now is: > > acd0: DVDR at ata1-slave PIO4 > > The Sony finally died a few months ago after being in use since 2002. I > replaced it with the LITE-ON and it has been working great. > > -Mark > > -- > GnuPG Public Key: > http://www.mkproductions.org/mk_pubkey.asc > > Internet Radio: > Party107 (Trance/Electronic) - http://www.party107.com > Rock 101.9 The Edge (Rock) - http://www.rock1019.net > > IRC: > MIXXnet IRC Network - irc.mixxnet.net (Nick: MIXX941) > Maybe I'm totally wrong, but I think you won't need a device driver for a dvd burner... It's just an atapi device, and there's a standard telling how to write data to it.. Please correct me.... -- Pietro Cerutti Beansidhe - SwiSS Death / Thrash Metal Windows: "Where do you want to go today?" Linux: "Where do you want to go tomorrow?" FreeBSD: "Are you guys coming or what?" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Dec 14 20:09:34 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5AFF816A41F for ; Wed, 14 Dec 2005 20:09:34 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from dan@ferrarishields.com) Received: from mail.ferrarishields.com (mail.ferrarishields.com [216.82.146.20]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CD38343D5D for ; Wed, 14 Dec 2005 20:09:33 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from dan@ferrarishields.com) Received: from ws4 (ws4 [10.70.153.5]) by mail.ferrarishields.com (Postfix) with SMTP id 623EC73022; Wed, 14 Dec 2005 12:09:33 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <003a01c600ea$504675a0$0599460a@ws4> From: "Dan O'Connor" To: "Jose Borquez" , "FreeBSD Questions group" References: <439FD9FC.6040101@sbcglobal.net> Date: Wed, 14 Dec 2005 12:09:37 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2670 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2670 Cc: Subject: Re: Can't open Apache web page X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 14 Dec 2005 20:09:34 -0000 >I have set up Apache and when I attempt to enter the ip address of the >server I just get a Connecting to 172.16.1.10 and then it times out. >What do I need to check to try and troubleshoot this problem? > httpd is currently running. Here is the output of top: > PID USERNAME PRI NICE SIZE RES STATE TIME WCPU CPU > COMMAND > 533 mysql 20 0 56640K 26280K kserel 0:02 0.00% 0.00% > mysqld > 492 jose 96 0 6116K 2964K select 0:00 0.00% 0.00% sshd > 558 root 96 0 8808K 6548K select 0:00 0.00% 0.00% httpd > 380 root 96 0 2900K 1732K select 0:00 0.00% 0.00% ntpd > 552 root 20 0 2284K 1760K pause 0:00 0.00% 0.00% csh > 169 root 8 0 1780K 1384K nanslp 0:00 0.00% 0.00% ipmon > 400 root 96 0 3456K 2668K select 0:00 0.00% 0.00% > sendmail > 493 jose 20 0 2280K 1756K pause 0:00 0.00% 0.00% tcsh > 489 root 4 0 6136K 2892K sbwait 0:00 0.00% 0.00% sshd > 609 root 96 0 2312K 1580K RUN 0:00 0.00% 0.00% top > 515 mysql 8 0 1664K 1264K wait 0:00 0.00% 0.00% sh > 551 jose 8 0 1608K 1296K wait 0:00 0.00% 0.00% su > 272 root 96 0 1324K 864K select 0:00 0.00% 0.00% > syslogd > 416 root 8 0 1364K 1052K nanslp 0:00 0.00% 0.00% cron > 481 root 5 0 1288K 952K ttyin 0:00 0.00% 0.00% getty > 482 root 5 0 1288K 952K ttyin 0:00 0.00% 0.00% getty > 485 root 5 0 1288K 952K ttyin 0:00 0.00% 0.00% getty Make sure you have port 80 open in your firewall... ~Dan From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Dec 14 20:17:37 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BAD9416A41F for ; Wed, 14 Dec 2005 20:17:37 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from algould@datawok.com) Received: from smtpauth01.mail.atl.earthlink.net (smtpauth01.mail.atl.earthlink.net [209.86.89.61]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1446543D6B for ; Wed, 14 Dec 2005 20:17:37 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from algould@datawok.com) Received: from [206.255.31.21] (helo=grokwell.org) by smtpauth01.mail.atl.earthlink.net with asmtp (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.34) id 1Emd49-00044n-0Y; Wed, 14 Dec 2005 15:17:33 -0500 Date: Wed, 14 Dec 2005 14:14:23 -0600 From: "Andrew L. Gould" To: Pietro Cerutti Message-ID: <20051214141423.29b2cc42@grokwell.org> In-Reply-To: References: <20051214185738.GB41870@thought.org> <43A06EE8.7060105@mkproductions.org> X-Mailer: Sylpheed-Claws 1.9.13 (GTK+ 2.6.9; i386-portbld-freebsd6.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-ELNK-Trace: ee791d459e3d6817d780f4a490ca69563f9fea00a6dd62bccb1430247cd62ae54923ac5ea2951043350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c X-Originating-IP: 206.255.31.21 Cc: FreeBSD Subject: Re: next question: dvd-burner. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 14 Dec 2005 20:17:37 -0000 On Wed, 14 Dec 2005 20:57:52 +0100 Pietro Cerutti wrote: > On 12/14/05, Mark Kane wrote: > > Gary Kline wrote: > > > I'm adding a DVD burner to my planned new platform. > > > Since this is new technology, how careful do I have to > > > be? In other words, does FreeBSD support most burners? > > > Looks like the DVD/CDRW burner is a NEC... I'll 2-check. > > > > > > thanks in advance, > > > > > > gary > > > > > > > > > > So far I've had good luck with both DVD burners I've tried in > > FreeBSD. One was an old Sony DRU500A and the latest one that I have > > in two FreeBSD machines now is: > > > > acd0: DVDR at ata1-slave PIO4 > > > > The Sony finally died a few months ago after being in use since > > 2002. I replaced it with the LITE-ON and it has been working great. > > > > -Mark > > > > -- > > GnuPG Public Key: > > http://www.mkproductions.org/mk_pubkey.asc > > > > Internet Radio: > > Party107 (Trance/Electronic) - http://www.party107.com > > Rock 101.9 The Edge (Rock) - http://www.rock1019.net > > > > IRC: > > MIXXnet IRC Network - irc.mixxnet.net (Nick: MIXX941) > > > > Maybe I'm totally wrong, but I think you won't need a device driver > for a dvd burner... > It's just an atapi device, and there's a standard telling how to write > data to it.. > > Please correct me.... > > > -- > Pietro Cerutti > > > Beansidhe - SwiSS Death / Thrash Metal > Like Mark, I have experience with Sony and Lite-On models. No additional drivers were needed to read from the DVD burners. To burn to the DVD burner, however, the user will need to recompile the kernel with atapicam and install dvd+rw-tools, which is in the ports. (The name of the port is misleading, as the port also burns other DVD formats in addition to +RW.) I still use cdrecord to burn CD's on the DVD burner. Chapter 16 of the online hanbook has a section regarding DVD's: http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/creating-dvds.html Andrew From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Dec 14 20:18:52 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9932316A41F for ; Wed, 14 Dec 2005 20:18:52 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from kline@tao.thought.org) Received: from tao.thought.org (dsl231-043-140.sea1.dsl.speakeasy.net [216.231.43.140]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4FEE243D72 for ; Wed, 14 Dec 2005 20:18:45 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from kline@tao.thought.org) Received: from tao.thought.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by tao.thought.org (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id jBEKIZB9043162; Wed, 14 Dec 2005 12:18:41 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from kline@tao.thought.org) Received: (from kline@localhost) by tao.thought.org (8.13.1/8.13.1/Submit) id jBEKIZQP043161; Wed, 14 Dec 2005 12:18:35 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from kline) Date: Wed, 14 Dec 2005 12:18:34 -0800 From: Gary Kline To: Charles Swiger Message-ID: <20051214201834.GF41870@thought.org> References: <20051214171014.GB37495@thought.org> <20051214192109.GD41870@thought.org> <7088318B-3141-44E6-9F50-CB51F6CAE501@mac.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <7088318B-3141-44E6-9F50-CB51F6CAE501@mac.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i X-Organization: Thought Unlimited. Public service Unix since 1986. X-Of_Interest: Observing 19 years of service to the Unix community Cc: Gary Kline , FreeBSD Mailing List Subject: Re: fquestions X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 14 Dec 2005 20:18:52 -0000 On Wed, Dec 14, 2005 at 02:44:40PM -0500, Charles Swiger wrote: > On Dec 14, 2005, at 2:21 PM, Gary Kline wrote: > >>You forgot to tell us which VIA chipset or MB-- there are lots and > >>lots of VIA-based motherboards around, with a wide variety of > >>hardware. > > > > Here's the URL on the board. It looks okay, but then it was > > written by salesmen:). I'm flying blind here. > > > >http://www.pcchips.com.tw/PCCWeb/Products/ProductsDetail.aspx? > >DetailID=358&MenuID=22&LanID=2 > > The onboard graphics is "embedded UniChromeII 3D Graphics, 64M share > memory", which I do not believe is supported well under X11, you're > better off getting a real video card unless you're going to be > working remotely or headless. This is very helpful because my tube will do 1600x1200 or so and I'd like something more than 1024c768! 1280x1024 is about right. I'm running most things thru a KVM device which means that I need good X support. > > The embedded AC97 audio controller probably will work, though, as > should the onboard VT6103 NIC. > I'm considering two Intel Pro 10/100s. This new box will be set up as my back-up DNS server. If the VT6103 will serve my router, then I could buy just one of the Intel NIC, right? > > My hardware days date from the Vax 11/70, and it's hard to > > keep track. But here's another question: What's wrong with > > the Celeron? The "better" Intel would be another $100. > > The Celeron's have about half to 1/4th as much L2 cache as the better > CPU. For some specific tasks, like pure routing, it won't matter, > but for almost anything else a P3 is a much better performer. Thanks for the clue; I'd either forgotten or didn't know. I expect to be pushing this box pretty hard--especially if it has to run my DNS too, so L2 is important. > > > Re the Athlon, yes, it is a bit less, but doesn't it run > > hotter than the Intel? Half of my platforms are Celeron > > and I push them hard, but if AMD is just as good, then that's > > the way to go. > > It depends on the AMD model, the Semprons are going to run around > 40W, whereas the older Althons and the Barton cores are in the > mid-60W range. I've got a 80mm fan on my AMD3200+ Barton, but it > runs cooler than a similar 2.4GHz P4 box. Most P4's want 70W or > more, but on the other hand, the Celerons and P3's are around 35W. > Well, I asked for two fans, but the guy said all his boxes come with dual fans. All he has is 3/3+GHz chips. This helps a lot. I have a question about a NEC DVDburner, but the motherboard first. gary > -- Gary Kline kline@thought.org www.thought.org Public service Unix From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Dec 14 20:21:40 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7873916A420 for ; Wed, 14 Dec 2005 20:21:40 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) Received: from mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com (mail.web-strider.com [65.75.192.90]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ECA5743D73 for ; Wed, 14 Dec 2005 20:21:25 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) Received: from tedwin2k (nat-rtr.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [65.75.197.130]) by mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com (8.11.1/8.11.1) with SMTP id jBEKOWb09401; Wed, 14 Dec 2005 12:24:33 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) From: "Ted Mittelstaedt" To: "RW" , Date: Wed, 14 Dec 2005 12:21:19 -0800 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.6604 (9.0.2911.0) In-Reply-To: <200512140207.44237.list-freebsd-2004@morbius.sent.com> Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1506 Cc: caleb Subject: RE: pine X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 14 Dec 2005 20:21:40 -0000 >-----Original Message----- >From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org >[mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]On Behalf Of RW >Sent: Tuesday, December 13, 2005 6:08 PM >To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org >Cc: caleb >Subject: Re: pine > > >> 'Can't do secure authentication with this server' > >If the server supports neither ssl, nor any form secure >authentication, there >nothing you can do to protect your password. Garbage. The first thing you can do is go out and shoo the crackers off the telephone pole who are tapped into your phone line and sniffing your passwords. Then you can ask your ISP to start locking the door to his NOC and kick out all the crackers who have sleeping bags in the NOC and are tapped into the ISP's ethernet cable from his router to his mail server. But the thing that would probably put your mind at ease the most is to stop going to Hollywood movies like The Net which make it appear as though crackers can magically sniff your cleartext passwords when they have access to the network between your PC and the ISP's mailserver. Ted From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Dec 14 20:34:43 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 10B7016A41F for ; Wed, 14 Dec 2005 20:34:43 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from gwen@nvnsvch.org) Received: from nvnsvch.org (nvnsvch.org [205.201.58.103]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A4D1443D62 for ; Wed, 14 Dec 2005 20:34:42 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from gwen@nvnsvch.org) Received: by nvnsvch.org (Postfix, from userid 1001) id AB03480E5; Wed, 14 Dec 2005 15:34:37 -0500 (EST) Date: Wed, 14 Dec 2005 15:34:37 -0500 From: gwen To: Ted Mittelstaedt Message-ID: <20051214203437.GA17667@nvnsvch.org> References: <200512140207.44237.list-freebsd-2004@morbius.sent.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i Cc: caleb , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, RW Subject: Re: pine X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 14 Dec 2005 20:34:43 -0000 * Ted Mittelstaedt (tedm@toybox.placo.com) [051214 15:22]: > > > >> 'Can't do secure authentication with this server' > > > >If the server supports neither ssl, nor any form secure > >authentication, there > >nothing you can do to protect your password. > > Garbage. > > The first thing you can do is go out and shoo the crackers > off the telephone pole who are tapped into your phone line > and sniffing your passwords. > > Then you can ask your ISP to start locking the door to his > NOC and kick out all the crackers who have sleeping bags in > the NOC and are tapped into the ISP's ethernet cable from his > router to his mail server. > > But the thing that would probably put your mind at ease the most > is to stop going to Hollywood movies like The Net which make it appear > as though crackers can magically sniff your cleartext passwords > when they have access to the network between your > PC and the ISP's mailserver. Have you ever seen the output of tcpdump? You see anything on the same network as you. So any of the following *likely* situations leaves your non-encrypted password open for sniffing: 1) Wireless access, *any* wireless access. 2) Cable modem pools, or any internet hookup where there's a communal line shared. 3) public networks (OK, I know the scenario presented is for home usage, but it's worth it to put this point here). 4) Any network where a computer has been at all compromised. 5) Any ISP with untrustable SysAdmins (I've known this to happen). 6) Almost a corrolary to 5) and 3); any ISP with a compromised machine. You cannot assume that there are not nasty sniffers on your line. I have seen passwords sniffed out in all kinds of places. And with that, I go back into lurking mode. gwen. gamergothgeekgrrl. http://www.gw3n.com/ * martygreene shivvers why is it so damn cold? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Dec 14 20:42:02 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A35F816A424 for ; Wed, 14 Dec 2005 20:42:02 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from cezar@arax.md) Received: from mail.arax.md (mail.arax.md [217.26.160.44]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8F36543D6B for ; Wed, 14 Dec 2005 20:42:01 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from cezar@arax.md) Received: from [87.248.173.29] (helo=CAESAR) by mail.arax.md with esmtpa (Exim 4.43 (FreeBSD)) id 1EmdS8-0004IL-3s for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Wed, 14 Dec 2005 22:42:20 +0200 Date: Wed, 14 Dec 2005 22:42:00 +0200 From: Cezar Fistik X-Mailer: The Bat! (v3.0.1.33) Professional X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1808066969.20051214224200@arax.md> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <20051214184906.4598.qmail@web33309.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <20051214184906.4598.qmail@web33309.mail.mud.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re[4]: Polling For 100 mbps Connections? (Was Re: Freebsd ThemeSong) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Cezar Fistik List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 14 Dec 2005 20:42:02 -0000 Hello all, > Or maybe FreeBSD just sucks wind? I promise you > that no machine known to man can pass 150Mb/s and > be 99% idle. Get a god-damned clue for pete's > sake. All polling does is screw up accounting so > the timings are wrong. At best there's a marginal > difference in performance. You still have to > process the packets. > Lets see, this "Test" would mean that his box > could handle 100 x 150Mb/s, or 15Gb/s. Thats > quite a little router you have there! lol. I have to recognize that I didn't follow the thread very carefuly and I propbably missed some posts. I just wanted to say that when using freebsd as a pure router using intel cards, polling realy helps. I've noticed 10-20% CPU utilization decrease with polling enabled. Second, I didn't mean 150Megabytes/sec, rather Megabits/sec. Third the actual CPU load is ranging from 0-4% (according to top), but with an average of 1%. And finally I just did a test and enabled polling on that box. The CPU idle state immediately dropped to 88% while interrupts increased to 10-12%. P.S Danial, have a look at this http://www.webopedia.com/TERM/M/Mbps.html -- Best regards, Cezar mailto:cezar@arax.md From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Dec 14 20:53:56 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B2F9416A41F for ; Wed, 14 Dec 2005 20:53:56 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) Received: from mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com (mail.web-strider.com [65.75.192.90]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2C9B443D46 for ; Wed, 14 Dec 2005 20:53:55 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) Received: from tedwin2k (nat-rtr.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [65.75.197.130]) by mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com (8.11.1/8.11.1) with SMTP id jBEKuqb09630; Wed, 14 Dec 2005 12:56:53 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) From: "Ted Mittelstaedt" To: "Michael Vince" , "Monah Baki" Date: Wed, 14 Dec 2005 12:53:39 -0800 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.6604 (9.0.2911.0) In-Reply-To: <439E1C5E.9070009@roq.com> Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1506 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: RE: Freebsd 5.4+samba X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 14 Dec 2005 20:53:56 -0000 I do not think polling will help him. I've dealt with those Dells before, if I am not mistaken that model uses a gigabit ethernet chipset. There are problems with some switches (I am assuming he is using a switch) autonegotiating with the ethernet chip on that Dell. While I've only seen these systems as Windows servers so far, the fix should be the same for FreeBSD, and that is to hard-code the port to 100BaseT half duplex. If that does not help, try substituting a more modern switch. Ted >-----Original Message----- >From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org >[mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]On Behalf Of Michael Vince >Sent: Monday, December 12, 2005 4:57 PM >To: Monah Baki >Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org >Subject: Re: Freebsd 5.4+samba > > >Monah Baki wrote: > >> Hi all, >> >> I just installed Freebsd 5.4 with samba 3.x, I'm running a calyx >> software, and the 6 clients are winxp. >> The smb.conf is as simple as possible. I noticed that some clients >> are very slow to connect to the share drive and run a database search. >> The server is a dell 8400 optiplex, no scsi HDD (sata I think), 3Ghz >> and 512MB Ram. >> I was wandering if there's a way to optimize samba, or >freebsd. Right >> now performance wise is worse then when they connect to the same >> database on a win2003 server and I need to get the win2003 >server out >> of the picture. >> >> >> Thank you > >The FreeBSD 5/6 kernel sometimes struggles to pass 100mbits traffic or >more, so you have to enable polling. 'man polling' > >Compile in to your kernel and enable polling >Main compile options are. >options DEVICE_POLLING >options HZ=1000 > >sysctl.conf >kern.polling.idle_poll=1 >kern.polling.user_frac=50 >kern.polling.enable=1 > >Then have something like 'ifconfig em0 polling' in /etc/rc.local > >Mike > >_______________________________________________ >freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list >http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions >To unsubscribe, send any mail to >"freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > >-- >No virus found in this incoming message. >Checked by AVG Free Edition. >Version: 7.1.371 / Virus Database: 267.13.13/198 - Release >Date: 12/12/2005 > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Dec 14 20:58:03 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D4C7D16A423 for ; Wed, 14 Dec 2005 20:58:03 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from kline@tao.thought.org) Received: from tao.thought.org (dsl231-043-140.sea1.dsl.speakeasy.net [216.231.43.140]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 10C6443D6A for ; Wed, 14 Dec 2005 20:57:42 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from kline@tao.thought.org) Received: from tao.thought.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by tao.thought.org (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id jBEKvaXT043411; Wed, 14 Dec 2005 12:57:37 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from kline@tao.thought.org) Received: (from kline@localhost) by tao.thought.org (8.13.1/8.13.1/Submit) id jBEKvals043410; Wed, 14 Dec 2005 12:57:36 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from kline) Date: Wed, 14 Dec 2005 12:57:36 -0800 From: Gary Kline To: Charles Swiger Message-ID: <20051214205736.GH41870@thought.org> References: <20051214171014.GB37495@thought.org> <20051214192109.GD41870@thought.org> <7088318B-3141-44E6-9F50-CB51F6CAE501@mac.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <7088318B-3141-44E6-9F50-CB51F6CAE501@mac.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i X-Organization: Thought Unlimited. Public service Unix since 1986. X-Of_Interest: Observing 19 years of service to the Unix community Cc: Gary Kline , FreeBSD Mailing List Subject: Re: fquestions X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 14 Dec 2005 20:58:04 -0000 Not to hijack my own thread, but will this NEC DVD burner work: It is the NEC 3550 we also have the LiteON 1693 same price. It isn't life/death that I get a "burner", but rather than getting a CDROM burneer, I thought I'd buy something cutting edge for a change! gary' PS: The web company is eCollegePC.com so if anybody onlist has some stormwarnings, now's the time for Bail-Out advice! -- Gary Kline kline@thought.org www.thought.org Public service Unix From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Dec 14 21:17:52 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E8A4516A41F for ; Wed, 14 Dec 2005 21:17:52 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from kline@tao.thought.org) Received: from tao.thought.org (dsl231-043-140.sea1.dsl.speakeasy.net [216.231.43.140]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 56E5643D49 for ; Wed, 14 Dec 2005 21:17:52 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from kline@tao.thought.org) Received: from tao.thought.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by tao.thought.org (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id jBELHomx043550; Wed, 14 Dec 2005 13:17:50 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from kline@tao.thought.org) Received: (from kline@localhost) by tao.thought.org (8.13.1/8.13.1/Submit) id jBELHne4043549; Wed, 14 Dec 2005 13:17:49 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from kline) Date: Wed, 14 Dec 2005 13:17:49 -0800 From: Gary Kline To: Charles Swiger Message-ID: <20051214211749.GJ41870@thought.org> References: <20051214171014.GB37495@thought.org> <20051214192109.GD41870@thought.org> <7088318B-3141-44E6-9F50-CB51F6CAE501@mac.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <7088318B-3141-44E6-9F50-CB51F6CAE501@mac.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i X-Organization: Thought Unlimited. Public service Unix since 1986. X-Of_Interest: Observing 19 years of service to the Unix community Cc: Gary Kline , FreeBSD Mailing List Subject: Re: fquestions X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 14 Dec 2005 21:17:53 -0000 On Wed, Dec 14, 2005 at 02:44:40PM -0500, Charles Swiger wrote: > On Dec 14, 2005, at 2:21 PM, Gary Kline wrote: > >>You forgot to tell us which VIA chipset or MB-- there are lots and > >>lots of VIA-based motherboards around, with a wide variety of > >>hardware. > > Here's his AMD chip and m'board. The great thing about the unix-way{tm} is that the latest and greatest works with the slower processors. My (used) HP boxes are happy, good performers at 400MHz, e.g. ...But I'm finally learning things- Gnome and -KDE and this does take more punch. Besides, I'm looking foirward to having a make world happen during a coffee break :-) gary ECS 741GX Motherboard and AMD 2800+. -- Gary Kline kline@thought.org www.thought.org Public service Unix From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Dec 14 21:42:30 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 73E0B16A424 for ; Wed, 14 Dec 2005 21:42:30 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from kstewart@owt.com) Received: from smtp.owt.com (smtp.owt.com [204.118.6.19]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1E49643D60 for ; Wed, 14 Dec 2005 21:42:29 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from kstewart@owt.com) Received: from topaz-out (owt-207-41-94-233.owt.com [207.41.94.233]) by smtp.owt.com (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id jBELg8x4007747; Wed, 14 Dec 2005 13:42:08 -0800 From: Kent Stewart To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Wed, 14 Dec 2005 13:42:21 -0800 User-Agent: KMail/1.8.3 References: <20051214171014.GB37495@thought.org> <7088318B-3141-44E6-9F50-CB51F6CAE501@mac.com> <20051214211749.GJ41870@thought.org> In-Reply-To: <20051214211749.GJ41870@thought.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200512141342.22051.kstewart@owt.com> Cc: Gary Kline Subject: Re: fquestions X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 14 Dec 2005 21:42:30 -0000 On Wednesday 14 December 2005 01:17 pm, Gary Kline wrote: > On Wed, Dec 14, 2005 at 02:44:40PM -0500, Charles Swiger wrote: > > On Dec 14, 2005, at 2:21 PM, Gary Kline wrote: > > >>You forgot to tell us which VIA chipset or MB-- there are lots > > >> and lots of VIA-based motherboards around, with a wide variety > > >> of hardware. > > Here's his AMD chip and m'board. The great thing about the > unix-way{tm} is that the latest and greatest works with the > slower processors. My (used) HP boxes are happy, good > performers at 400MHz, e.g. ...But I'm finally learning things- > Gnome and -KDE and this does take more punch. Besides, I'm > looking foirward to having a make world happen during a > coffee break :-) > > gary > > > > ECS 741GX Motherboard and AMD 2800+. You must take long coffee breaks :). Here are times for 6-r and 6-stable RELENG_6-release 2803.276u 556.721s 1:01:03.52 91.7% 3728+2613k 17698+2443io 1315pf+0w 2872.010u 543.192s 1:08:04.53 83.6% 3726+2594k 27248+3651io 1983pf+0w You can see that the buildworld required an hour plus on a 2800+. If there are ways to make it compile faster, I would really like to know how. All that is turned on is "NO_PROFILE=true". Kent -- Kent Stewart Richland, WA http://users.owt.com/kstewart/index.html From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Dec 14 21:42:33 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F094816A41F for ; Wed, 14 Dec 2005 21:42:33 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from micahjon@ywave.com) Received: from smtpout1.ywave.com (ycomradius.yelmtel.com [216.227.100.60]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 068CC43D66 for ; Wed, 14 Dec 2005 21:42:30 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from micahjon@ywave.com) Received: (qmail 17998 invoked by uid 502); 14 Dec 2005 21:42:29 -0000 Received: from dsl28163.ywave.com (HELO ?192.168.1.65?) (micahjon@ywave.com@216.227.115.163) by 0 with SMTP; 14 Dec 2005 21:42:29 -0000 X-CLIENT-IP: 216.227.115.163 X-CLIENT-HOST: dsl28163.ywave.com Message-ID: <43A091C4.5010304@ywave.com> Date: Wed, 14 Dec 2005 13:42:28 -0800 From: Micah User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.7 (X11/20051204) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: RW References: <43A031B1.2030105@supsi.ch> <43A04A05.3060504@ywave.com> <200512141829.36933.list-freebsd-2004@morbius.sent.com> In-Reply-To: <200512141829.36933.list-freebsd-2004@morbius.sent.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: grub doesn't know ufs filesystem X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 14 Dec 2005 21:42:34 -0000 RW wrote: > On Wednesday 14 December 2005 16:36, Micah wrote: > >>Some of the grubs that ship with Linux distros >>do not support ufs. > > > I'm curious as to why people care about this so much. There are numerous > threads about whether or not particular bootloaders support UFS. > > A bootloader needs to understand Linux filesystems to boot Linux off a logical > partition, but BSDs slices are always on primary partitions. Is there really > any advantage to going directly to /boot/loader, rather than simply chaining? I used chainloading for a while until I wanted multiple installs of FreeBSD on the same drive. Using chainloading from grub always booted the first FreeBSD regardless of which slice was specified in menu.lst. Changing it to use /boot/loader allowed me to actually have more than one FreeBSD on the same drive. Also, grub places some files on a host filesystem. It may be more convenient to have those files stored on UFS rather than FAT or EXT. Or you may have a system that consists only of multiple FreeBSD installs. In that case, if you use grub (rather than FreeBSD's manager), you'd have to make a partition solely for grub. HTH, Micah From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Dec 14 21:47:04 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 62FDB16A41F for ; Wed, 14 Dec 2005 21:47:04 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from mags@oniduo.pt) Received: from smtp.net4b.pt (relay-out17861.net4b.pt [195.245.178.61]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DA44743D99 for ; Wed, 14 Dec 2005 21:46:44 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from mags@oniduo.pt) Received: (qmail 19706 invoked from network); 14 Dec 2005 21:46:40 +0000 Received: from unknown (HELO [192.168.1.75]) ([194.38.156.250]) (envelope-sender ) by smtp.net4b.pt (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for ; 14 Dec 2005 21:46:39 +0000 From: Miguel Saturnino To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <1134387350.788.21.camel@localhost> References: <1134387350.788.21.camel@localhost> Content-Type: text/plain Date: Wed, 14 Dec 2005 21:46:36 +0000 Message-Id: <1134596796.788.9.camel@localhost> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.4.2 FreeBSD GNOME Team Port Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: FreeBSD 6.0-RELEASE - panic: page fault X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 14 Dec 2005 21:47:04 -0000 On Mon, 2005-12-12 at 11:35 +0000, Miguel Saturnino wrote: > My server reboots sporadically (once a day, maximum) and I hope someone > can shed some light on why this is happening. > > I've upgraded to 6.0-RELEASE yesterday but the symptoms remain... > Attached is the backtrace of the crash dump and the relevant portion > of /var/log/messages. > > My custom kernel is the generic kernel plus support for quotas. > > Also, during last buildworld I got a "segmentation fault" (only thing I > have in /etc/make.conf is "CFLAGS= -O -pipe" and "NO_PROFILE= true"). I > then tried it again (in the exact same conditions), and it worked. Don't > know if that might indicate bad RAM (the only memory test I'm able to > run is memtest but it can only lock (to test) about 15% of the total > system memory...). > Since I got no answers, I'll reply to myself ;) I have now replaced the memory, but the problem persists. So I guess it's highly unlikely that the problem is with the RAM. I started saving the output of top, vmstat and iostat at each minute, and this is from the last records I got before the last crash (the machine is a web server but has only a few low traffic sites): top: ==== last pid: 29978; load averages: 0.00, 0.00, 0.00 up 0+16:10:46 19:41:00 123 processes: 1 running, 122 sleeping Mem: 186M Active, 115M Inact, 64M Wired, 14M Cache, 60M Buf, 114M Free Swap: 2048M Total, 2048M Free vmstat: ======= procs memory page disk faults cpu r b w avm fre flt re pi po fr sr ad0 in sy cs us sy id 0 2 0 517256 130988 84 0 0 0 90 4 0 214 42726 495 7 4 90 iostat: ======= tty ad0 cpu tin tout KB/t tps MB/s us ni sy in id 0 12 13.06 6 0.07 7 0 3 0 90 latest backtrace: ================= Unread portion of the kernel message buffer: kernel trap 12 with interrupts disabled Fatal trap 12: page fault while in kernel mode fault virtual address = 0x24 fault code = supervisor read, page not present instruction pointer = 0x20:0xc0657a48 stack pointer = 0x28:0xd565eafc frame pointer = 0x28:0xd565eb10 code segment = base 0x0, limit 0xfffff, type 0x1b = DPL 0, pres 1, def32 1, gran 1 processor eflags = resume, IOPL = 0 current process = 37 (swi1: net) trap number = 12 panic: page fault Uptime: 16h11m16s Dumping 510 MB (2 chunks) chunk 0: 1MB (159 pages) ... ok chunk 1: 510MB (130544 pages) 494 478 462 446 430 414 398 382 366 350 334 318 302 286 270 254 238 222 206 190 174 158 142 126 110 94 78 62 46 30 14 #0 doadump () at pcpu.h:165 165 __asm __volatile("movl %%fs:0,%0" : "=r" (td)); (kgdb) bt #0 doadump () at pcpu.h:165 #1 0xc0638202 in boot (howto=260) at /usr/src/sys/kern/kern_shutdown.c:399 #2 0xc0638498 in panic (fmt=0xc084ece2 "%s") at /usr/src/sys/kern/kern_shutdown.c:555 #3 0xc0808370 in trap_fatal (frame=0xd565eabc, eva=36) at /usr/src/sys/i386/i386/trap.c:831 #4 0xc0807b12 in trap (frame= {tf_fs = -1065418744, tf_es = -1046544344, tf_ds = -714801112, tf_edi = 1, tf_esi = -1032972416, tf_ebp = -714740976, tf_isp = -714741016, tf_ebx = -1046540928, tf_edx = -1032972416, tf_ecx = -1064083040, tf_eax = 0, tf_trapno = 12, tf_err = 0, tf_eip = -1067091384, tf_cs = 32, tf_eflags = 589954, tf_esp = 40, tf_ss = 0}) at /usr/src/sys/i386/i386/trap.c:267 #5 0xc07f750a in calltrap () at /usr/src/sys/i386/i386/exception.s:139 #6 0xc0657a48 in propagate_priority (td=0xc26e1780) at /usr/src/sys/kern/subr_turnstile.c:233 #7 0xc06581f6 in turnstile_wait (lock=0xc09361a0, owner=0xc26e1780) at /usr/src/sys/kern/subr_turnstile.c:628 #8 0xc062fa6c in _mtx_lock_sleep (m=0xc09361a0, tid=3248426368, opts=0, file=0x0, line=0) at /usr/src/sys/kern/kern_mutex.c:553 #9 0xc06772bd in sf_buf_mext (addr=0xd4623000, args=0x0) at /usr/src/sys/kern/uipc_syscalls.c:1690 #10 0xc066d6bd in mb_free_ext (m=0xc2162b00) at /usr/src/sys/kern/uipc_mbuf.c:258 #11 0xc06748a4 in sbdrop_locked (sb=0xc1deb0c8, len=0) at mbuf.h:427 #12 0xc06d7938 in tcp_input (m=0xc1be3d00, off0=20) at /usr/src/sys/netinet/tcp_input.c:2121 #13 0xc06cf1c1 in ip_input (m=0xc1be3d00) at /usr/src/sys/netinet/ip_input.c:778 #14 0xc06ac483 in netisr_processqueue (ni=0xc09292d8) at /usr/src/sys/net/netisr.c:236 #15 0xc06ac67e in swi_net (dummy=0x0) at /usr/src/sys/net/netisr.c:349 #16 0xc0623df9 in ithread_loop (arg=0xc19e4180) at /usr/src/sys/kern/kern_intr.c:547 #17 0xc0623080 in fork_exit (callout=0xc0623ca0 , arg=0xc19e4180, frame=0xd565ed38) at /usr/src/sys/kern/kern_fork.c:789 #18 0xc07f756c in fork_trampoline () at /usr/src/sys/i386/i386/exception.s:208 (kgdb) f 5 #5 0xc07f750a in calltrap () at /usr/src/sys/i386/i386/exception.s:139 139 call trap Current language: auto; currently asm Hope someone can help me debug this... Thanks, Miguel From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Dec 14 21:50:53 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B8C7A16A41F for ; Wed, 14 Dec 2005 21:50:53 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from micahjon@ywave.com) Received: from smtpout1.ywave.com (ycomradius.yelmtel.com [216.227.100.60]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 5074A43D5E for ; Wed, 14 Dec 2005 21:50:53 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from micahjon@ywave.com) Received: (qmail 18402 invoked by uid 502); 14 Dec 2005 21:50:52 -0000 Received: from dsl28163.ywave.com (HELO ?192.168.1.65?) (micahjon@ywave.com@216.227.115.163) by 0 with SMTP; 14 Dec 2005 21:50:52 -0000 X-CLIENT-IP: 216.227.115.163 X-CLIENT-HOST: dsl28163.ywave.com Message-ID: <43A093BB.7080601@ywave.com> Date: Wed, 14 Dec 2005 13:50:51 -0800 From: Micah User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.7 (X11/20051204) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Gary Kline References: <20051214185738.GB41870@thought.org> In-Reply-To: <20051214185738.GB41870@thought.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: FreeBSD Mailing List Subject: Re: next question: dvd-burner. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 14 Dec 2005 21:50:53 -0000 Gary Kline wrote: > I'm adding a DVD burner to my planned new platform. > Since this is new technology, how careful do I have to > be? In other words, does FreeBSD support most burners? > Looks like the DVD/CDRW burner is a NEC... I'll 2-check. > > thanks in advance, > > gary > > I have an NEC too and it works fine in FreeBSD 5.4. I use K3B to burn CDs and DVDs with it. See Andrews response for more information. HTH, Micah From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Dec 14 21:54:56 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AF9EC16A41F for ; Wed, 14 Dec 2005 21:54:56 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from lloyd.peterson@gmail.com) Received: from xproxy.gmail.com (xproxy.gmail.com [66.249.82.193]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5E1D443D7D for ; Wed, 14 Dec 2005 21:54:46 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from lloyd.peterson@gmail.com) Received: by xproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id s9so172888wxc for ; Wed, 14 Dec 2005 13:54:39 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=lHPElX8vWuzSMI8Rqqi7QgoYxRkBHa/4PThv1UPS4z4eg5BO14Qw3HzhuhJUgm9kDbDatwucIrA+h5KCQ7VS4t1I53zI1hYasNGvFMMv9IBvF0FAZh+rXnd8rujyz7Wxd9lw7teIObs7MieMW2I+zJbidDS75L033t+V4OyKjcU= Received: by 10.70.110.20 with SMTP id i20mr1509943wxc; Wed, 14 Dec 2005 13:54:39 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.70.62.15 with HTTP; Wed, 14 Dec 2005 13:54:39 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <95550eab0512141354o37966534m37287a2635e0eec6@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 14 Dec 2005 16:54:39 -0500 From: Aaron Peterson To: FreeBSD Mailing List In-Reply-To: <43A093BB.7080601@ywave.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline References: <20051214185738.GB41870@thought.org> <43A093BB.7080601@ywave.com> Subject: Re: next question: dvd-burner. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 14 Dec 2005 21:54:56 -0000 On 12/14/05, Micah wrote: > Gary Kline wrote: > > I'm adding a DVD burner to my planned new platform. > > Since this is new technology, how careful do I have to > > be? In other words, does FreeBSD support most burners? > > Looks like the DVD/CDRW burner is a NEC... I'll 2-check. > > > > thanks in advance, > > > > gary yes, most modern dvd burners support a standardized instruction set.=20 some brands implement additional extensions, but basic functionality should work out of the box for most of them... Aaron From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Dec 14 21:56:29 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6EF8D16A41F for ; Wed, 14 Dec 2005 21:56:29 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from lists@webtent.net) Received: from columbus.webtent.org (static-70-110-70-42.tampfl.fios.verizon.net [70.110.70.42]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 71C0943D8B for ; Wed, 14 Dec 2005 21:56:20 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from lists@webtent.net) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by columbus.webtent.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0FD05CFAB5 for ; Wed, 14 Dec 2005 16:56:18 -0500 (EST) From: Robert Fitzpatrick To: FreeBSD Content-Type: text/plain Date: Wed, 14 Dec 2005 16:56:18 -0500 Message-Id: <1134597378.5560.49.camel@columbus.webtent.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.2.1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Determining disk latency X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: robert@webtent.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 14 Dec 2005 21:56:29 -0000 I have been trying to track down an issue where are mail messages are delayed via postfix, amavis, clamav and SA. Seems the messages move right through amavis now in just a second, like the message below. I'm sure the queue active messages are related to me restarting postfix after making changes. I have max_server for amavis set to 2 just like the smtp-amavis transport in master.cf in postfix. If I try to increase this, my CPU utilization spikes. Messages come in as queue active and sit for, in this case 2 and half hours, until amavis picks it up. Someone suggested on the amavis list to look for disk latency issues, how do I do this? esmtp# grep 7BEE97E997 /var/log/maillog Dec 14 14:17:38 esmtp postfix/smtpd[32427]: 7BEE97E997: client=mail186.e2ma.net[66.179.147.186] Dec 14 14:17:38 esmtp postfix/cleanup[33547]: 7BEE97E997: message-id=<920fbca04802da57d9607f9178a761a8.3218@e2ma.net> Dec 14 14:17:49 esmtp postfix/qmgr[29605]: 7BEE97E997: from=<171176996.3218@e2ma.net>, size=11246, nrcpt=1 (queue active) Dec 14 14:27:29 esmtp postfix/qmgr[29605]: 7BEE97E997: to=, relay=none, delay=592, status=deferred (delivery temporarily suspended: connect to 127.0.0.1[127.0.0.1]: Connection refused) Dec 14 14:46:25 esmtp postfix/qmgr[35306]: 7BEE97E997: from=<171176996.3218@e2ma.net>, size=11246, nrcpt=1 (queue active) Dec 14 14:58:56 esmtp postfix/qmgr[36371]: 7BEE97E997: from=<171176996.3218@e2ma.net>, size=11246, nrcpt=1 (queue active) Dec 14 15:25:44 esmtp postfix/qmgr[37488]: 7BEE97E997: from=<171176996.3218@e2ma.net>, size=11246, nrcpt=1 (queue active) Dec 14 16:44:02 esmtp postfix/smtp[40014]: 7BEE97E997: to=, relay=127.0.0.1[127.0.0.1], delay=8785, status=sent (250 2.6.0 Ok, id=40110-01-4, from MTA([127.0.0.1]:10025): 250 Ok: queued as 4EAA07F5EF) Dec 14 16:44:02 esmtp postfix/qmgr[37488]: 7BEE97E997: removed esmtp# grep 4EAA07F5EF /var/log/maillog Dec 14 16:44:02 esmtp postfix/smtpd[40116]: 4EAA07F5EF: client=localhost.webtent.net[127.0.0.1] Dec 14 16:44:02 esmtp postfix/cleanup[39841]: 4EAA07F5EF: message-id=<920fbca04802da57d9607f9178a761a8.3218@e2ma.net> Dec 14 16:44:02 esmtp postfix/qmgr[37488]: 4EAA07F5EF: from=<171176996.3218@e2ma.net>, size=11737, nrcpt=1 (queue active) Dec 14 16:44:02 esmtp amavis[40110]: (40110-01-4) FWD via SMTP: <171176996.3218@e2ma.net> -> , 250 2.6.0 Ok, id=40110-01-4, from MTA([127.0.0.1]:10025): 250 Ok: queued as 4EAA07F5EF Dec 14 16:44:02 esmtp postfix/smtp[40014]: 7BEE97E997: to=, relay=127.0.0.1[127.0.0.1], delay=8785, status=sent (250 2.6.0 Ok, id=40110-01-4, from MTA([127.0.0.1]:10025): 250 Ok: queued as 4EAA07F5EF) Dec 14 16:44:02 esmtp postfix/smtp[38824]: 4EAA07F5EF: to=, relay=208.38.145.35[208.38.145.35], delay=0, status=sent (250 2.0.0 jBELhw220499 Message accepted for delivery) Dec 14 16:44:02 esmtp postfix/qmgr[37488]: 4EAA07F5EF: removed -- Robert From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Dec 14 22:04:58 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D0CDE16A41F for ; Wed, 14 Dec 2005 22:04:58 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from kline@tao.thought.org) Received: from tao.thought.org (dsl231-043-140.sea1.dsl.speakeasy.net [216.231.43.140]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 25B8143D4C for ; Wed, 14 Dec 2005 22:04:57 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from kline@tao.thought.org) Received: from tao.thought.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by tao.thought.org (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id jBEM4sGe044110; Wed, 14 Dec 2005 14:04:55 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from kline@tao.thought.org) Received: (from kline@localhost) by tao.thought.org (8.13.1/8.13.1/Submit) id jBEM4stW044109; Wed, 14 Dec 2005 14:04:54 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from kline) Date: Wed, 14 Dec 2005 14:04:53 -0800 From: Gary Kline To: "Andrew L. Gould" Message-ID: <20051214220453.GL41870@thought.org> References: <20051214185738.GB41870@thought.org> <43A06EE8.7060105@mkproductions.org> <20051214141423.29b2cc42@grokwell.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20051214141423.29b2cc42@grokwell.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i X-Organization: Thought Unlimited. Public service Unix since 1986. X-Of_Interest: Observing 19 years of service to the Unix community Cc: FreeBSD , Pietro Cerutti Subject: Re: next question: dvd-burner. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 14 Dec 2005 22:04:59 -0000 On Wed, Dec 14, 2005 at 02:14:23PM -0600, Andrew L. Gould wrote: > On Wed, 14 Dec 2005 20:57:52 +0100 > Pietro Cerutti wrote: > > > On 12/14/05, Mark Kane wrote: > > > Gary Kline wrote: > > > > I'm adding a DVD burner to my planned new platform. > > > > Since this is new technology, how careful do I have to > > > > be? In other words, does FreeBSD support most burners? > > > > Looks like the DVD/CDRW burner is a NEC... I'll 2-check. > > > > > > > > thanks in advance, > > > > > > > > gary > > > > > > > > > > > > > > So far I've had good luck with both DVD burners I've tried in > > > FreeBSD. One was an old Sony DRU500A and the latest one that I have > > > in two FreeBSD machines now is: > > > > > > acd0: DVDR at ata1-slave PIO4 > > > > > > The Sony finally died a few months ago after being in use since > > > 2002. I replaced it with the LITE-ON and it has been working great. > > > > > > -Mark > > > > > > -- > > > GnuPG Public Key: > > > http://www.mkproductions.org/mk_pubkey.asc > > > > > > Internet Radio: > > > Party107 (Trance/Electronic) - http://www.party107.com > > > Rock 101.9 The Edge (Rock) - http://www.rock1019.net > > > > > > IRC: > > > MIXXnet IRC Network - irc.mixxnet.net (Nick: MIXX941) > > > > > > > Maybe I'm totally wrong, but I think you won't need a device driver > > for a dvd burner... > > It's just an atapi device, and there's a standard telling how to write > > data to it.. > > > > Please correct me.... > > > > > > -- > > Pietro Cerutti > > > > > > Beansidhe - SwiSS Death / Thrash Metal > > > > Like Mark, I have experience with Sony and Lite-On models. No > additional drivers were needed to read from the DVD burners. So either thw NEC on the Lite-On burner ought to just-work. That's great because I'm tired of not being able to burn stuff myself. > > To burn to the DVD burner, however, the user will need to > recompile the kernel with atapicam and install dvd+rw-tools, which is > in the ports. (The name of the port is misleading, as the port also > burns other DVD formats in addition to +RW.) I still use cdrecord to > burn CD's on the DVD burner. > > Chapter 16 of the online hanbook has a section regarding DVD's: > > http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/creating-dvds.html > OT, but could you burn say 5 audio CD's onto a DVD and listen on your computer? Just wondering why nobody had audio on "DVD"-length discs. gary -- Gary Kline kline@thought.org www.thought.org Public service Unix From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Dec 14 22:07:28 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D0BB716A41F for ; Wed, 14 Dec 2005 22:07:28 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from kstewart@owt.com) Received: from smtp.owt.com (smtp.owt.com [204.118.6.19]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5A14043D53 for ; Wed, 14 Dec 2005 22:07:28 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from kstewart@owt.com) Received: from topaz-out (owt-207-41-94-233.owt.com [207.41.94.233]) by smtp.owt.com (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id jBEM76x4008303; Wed, 14 Dec 2005 14:07:07 -0800 From: Kent Stewart To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Wed, 14 Dec 2005 14:07:25 -0800 User-Agent: KMail/1.8.3 References: <20051214171014.GB37495@thought.org> <7088318B-3141-44E6-9F50-CB51F6CAE501@mac.com> <20051214205736.GH41870@thought.org> In-Reply-To: <20051214205736.GH41870@thought.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200512141407.26128.kstewart@owt.com> Cc: Gary Kline Subject: Re: fquestions X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 14 Dec 2005 22:07:28 -0000 On Wednesday 14 December 2005 12:57 pm, Gary Kline wrote: > Not to hijack my own thread, but will this NEC DVD burner > work: > > It is the NEC 3550 we also have the LiteON 1693 same price. > > It isn't life/death that I get a "burner", but rather than > getting a CDROM burneer, I thought I'd buy something cutting > edge for a change! > > gary' > > PS: The web company is > > eCollegePC.com > > so if anybody onlist has some stormwarnings, now's the > time for Bail-Out advice! I have 2 16x, dual layer, DVD burners. A Sony and a LiteOn. I couldn't find the boxes, and I'm not going to pull them out to look :). The Sony seems to want to burn CDs at 42x and the LiteOn, day in and day out, burns at 48x. The LiteOn is on a 2800+ XP AMD. I have 16x media for the DVD burner but have only used 8x so far on the Sony. It is on a 1600+ XP. That translates into 11MB/sec. When I backed up ~4GB of digital photos from my Canon Digital Rebel, I needed around 10 minutes. It was much faster than I expected and I didn't time the operation. This is also only under Windows XP. The systems boot 6-stable and XP-Pro but the files I need to burn only exist on XP. I don't expect a problem from either on the FreeBSD side. I just happen to like Nero and the choices on FreeBSD are quite different. I make the system fit the project and not force the project onto a system. Kent -- Kent Stewart Richland, WA http://users.owt.com/kstewart/index.html From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Dec 14 22:33:42 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AFEB716A41F for ; Wed, 14 Dec 2005 22:33:42 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from roberthuff@rcn.com) Received: from smtp01.mrf.mail.rcn.net (smtp01.mrf.mail.rcn.net [207.172.4.61]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 10AC643D58 for ; Wed, 14 Dec 2005 22:33:41 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from roberthuff@rcn.com) Received: from 209-6-203-192.c3-0.smr-ubr1.sbo-smr.ma.cable.rcn.com (HELO jerusalem.litteratus.org.litteratus.org) ([209.6.203.192]) by smtp01.mrf.mail.rcn.net with ESMTP; 14 Dec 2005 17:33:41 -0500 X-IronPort-AV: i="3.99,252,1131339600"; d="scan'208"; a="142152431:sNHT20881254" From: Robert Huff MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <17312.40427.830386.515700@jerusalem.litteratus.org> Date: Wed, 14 Dec 2005 17:34:19 -0500 To: questions@freebsd.org X-Mailer: VM 7.17 under 21.5 (beta23) "daikon" XEmacs Lucid Cc: Subject: "nd6_lookup: failed to add route" X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 14 Dec 2005 22:33:42 -0000 Having recently upgraded my -CURRENT box, I'm now getting this: nd6_lookup: failed to add route for a neighbor(2001:05c0:8fff:fffe::0e44), errno=17 A search of the archives and the 'net does not show anything useful. Has anyone else seen this? Or know what's going on and can point me in the right direction? Robert Huff From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Dec 14 22:33:49 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5F0CF16A422 for ; Wed, 14 Dec 2005 22:33:49 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from fbsd_user@a1poweruser.com) Received: from mta9.adelphia.net (mta9.adelphia.net [68.168.78.199]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E9F6743D4C for ; Wed, 14 Dec 2005 22:33:48 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from fbsd_user@a1poweruser.com) Received: from barbish ([69.172.31.117]) by mta9.adelphia.net (InterMail vM.6.01.05.02 201-2131-123-102-20050715) with SMTP id <20051214223348.UEY11358.mta9.adelphia.net@barbish>; Wed, 14 Dec 2005 17:33:48 -0500 From: "fbsd_user" To: "Tofik Suleymanov" , "Ashley Moran" Date: Wed, 14 Dec 2005 17:33:42 -0500 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.6604 (9.0.2911.0) In-Reply-To: <43A078E8.30504@oxygen.az> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1409 Importance: Normal Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: RE: Problem adding user with pw X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: fbsd_user@a1poweruser.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 14 Dec 2005 22:33:49 -0000 Ashley Moran wrote: >Please forgive me if I've missed something obvious, but I've googled for this >error and get no results. > >I want to add a new user with the pw command: > > root@alfie# cat /etc/pw.conf > shellpath = /bin,/usr/bin/,/usr/local/bin > shell = sh,csh,tcsh,bash > defaultshell = bash > > root@alfie# which bash > /usr/local/bin/bash > >but ... > > root@alfie# pw useradd testuser > pw: no default shell available or defined > >Does anyone know why I get this error message? > > >Thanks >Ashley >_______________________________________________ >freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list >http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions >To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > > maybe missing entry in /etc/shells ? _______________________________________________ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" -----Original Message----- From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org [mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]On Behalf Of Tofik Suleymanov Sent: Wednesday, December 14, 2005 2:56 PM To: Ashley Moran Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Problem adding user with pw On my 5.4 system I have no bash in /usr/local/bin or any place else. I think you have to install bash shell from the ports. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Dec 14 22:34:48 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F281316A41F for ; Wed, 14 Dec 2005 22:34:47 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from cswiger@mac.com) Received: from pi.codefab.com (pi.codefab.com [199.103.21.227]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 26A3A43D55 for ; Wed, 14 Dec 2005 22:34:47 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from cswiger@mac.com) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pi.codefab.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 558B75DBC; Wed, 14 Dec 2005 17:34:46 -0500 (EST) Received: from pi.codefab.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (pi.codefab.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 02831-06; Wed, 14 Dec 2005 17:34:44 -0500 (EST) Received: from [199.103.21.238] (pan.codefab.com [199.103.21.238]) (using TLSv1 with cipher RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by pi.codefab.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C0D295CF8; Wed, 14 Dec 2005 17:34:44 -0500 (EST) In-Reply-To: <1134597378.5560.49.camel@columbus.webtent.org> References: <1134597378.5560.49.camel@columbus.webtent.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v746.2) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: <277A2332-0226-49C8-B5DE-0DE75FE8EC6F@mac.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Charles Swiger Date: Wed, 14 Dec 2005 17:34:43 -0500 To: robert@webtent.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.746.2) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at codefab.com Cc: FreeBSD Subject: Re: Determining disk latency X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 14 Dec 2005 22:34:48 -0000 On Dec 14, 2005, at 4:56 PM, Robert Fitzpatrick wrote: > Dec 14 14:17:49 esmtp postfix/qmgr[29605]: 7BEE97E997: > from=<171176996.3218@e2ma.net>, size=11246, nrcpt=1 (queue active) > Dec 14 14:27:29 esmtp postfix/qmgr[29605]: 7BEE97E997: > to=, relay=none, delay=592, status=deferred > (delivery temporarily suspended: connect to 127.0.0.1[127.0.0.1]: > Connection refused) This implies that postfix tried to pass the message off to your local content filter and could not connect to it, so the message got queued up for the next queue run an hour or two later. You ought to adjust the number in the second-to-last column in /usr/ local/etc/postfix/master.cf for your virus scanning task (often called scan), to correspond to the number of amavisd children you are running, and you should adjust amavisd to only run as many children as your hardware can comfortably handle without swapping. -- -Chuck From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Dec 14 22:58:03 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 85EFE16A41F for ; Wed, 14 Dec 2005 22:58:03 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from algould@datawok.com) Received: from smtpauth09.mail.atl.earthlink.net (smtpauth09.mail.atl.earthlink.net [209.86.89.69]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8580B43D5C for ; Wed, 14 Dec 2005 22:58:02 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from algould@datawok.com) Received: from [206.255.31.21] (helo=grokwell.org) by smtpauth09.mail.atl.earthlink.net with asmtp (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.34) id 1EmfZP-0007Vg-1r; Wed, 14 Dec 2005 17:57:59 -0500 Date: Wed, 14 Dec 2005 16:54:49 -0600 From: "Andrew L. Gould" To: Gary Kline Message-ID: <20051214165449.604d1fe5@grokwell.org> In-Reply-To: <20051214220453.GL41870@thought.org> References: <20051214185738.GB41870@thought.org> <43A06EE8.7060105@mkproductions.org> <20051214141423.29b2cc42@grokwell.org> <20051214220453.GL41870@thought.org> X-Mailer: Sylpheed-Claws 1.9.13 (GTK+ 2.6.9; i386-portbld-freebsd6.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-ELNK-Trace: ee791d459e3d6817d780f4a490ca69563f9fea00a6dd62bc7364d5a1eac7f7554993e3ef68aae2b5350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c X-Originating-IP: 206.255.31.21 Cc: FreeBSD , Pietro Cerutti Subject: Re: next question: dvd-burner. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 14 Dec 2005 22:58:03 -0000 On Wed, 14 Dec 2005 14:04:53 -0800 Gary Kline wrote: > On Wed, Dec 14, 2005 at 02:14:23PM -0600, Andrew L. Gould wrote: > > On Wed, 14 Dec 2005 20:57:52 +0100 > > Pietro Cerutti wrote: > > > > > On 12/14/05, Mark Kane wrote: > > > > Gary Kline wrote: > > > > > I'm adding a DVD burner to my planned new platform. > > > > > Since this is new technology, how careful do I have to > > > > > be? In other words, does FreeBSD support most burners? > > > > > Looks like the DVD/CDRW burner is a NEC... I'll > > > > > 2-check. > > > > > > > > > > thanks in advance, > > > > > > > > > > gary > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > So far I've had good luck with both DVD burners I've tried in > > > > FreeBSD. One was an old Sony DRU500A and the latest one that I > > > > have in two FreeBSD machines now is: > > > > > > > > acd0: DVDR at ata1-slave PIO4 > > > > > > > > The Sony finally died a few months ago after being in use since > > > > 2002. I replaced it with the LITE-ON and it has been working > > > > great. > > > > > > > > -Mark > > > > > > > > -- > > > > GnuPG Public Key: > > > > http://www.mkproductions.org/mk_pubkey.asc > > > > > > > > Internet Radio: > > > > Party107 (Trance/Electronic) - http://www.party107.com > > > > Rock 101.9 The Edge (Rock) - http://www.rock1019.net > > > > > > > > IRC: > > > > MIXXnet IRC Network - irc.mixxnet.net (Nick: MIXX941) > > > > > > > > > > Maybe I'm totally wrong, but I think you won't need a device > > > driver for a dvd burner... > > > It's just an atapi device, and there's a standard telling how to > > > write data to it.. > > > > > > Please correct me.... > > > > > > > > > -- > > > Pietro Cerutti > > > > > > > > > Beansidhe - SwiSS Death / Thrash Metal > > > > > > > Like Mark, I have experience with Sony and Lite-On models. No > > additional drivers were needed to read from the DVD burners. > > So either thw NEC on the Lite-On burner ought to just-work. > That's great because I'm tired of not being able to burn > stuff myself. > > > > > To burn to the DVD burner, however, the user will need to > > recompile the kernel with atapicam and install dvd+rw-tools, which > > is in the ports. (The name of the port is misleading, as the port > > also burns other DVD formats in addition to +RW.) I still use > > cdrecord to burn CD's on the DVD burner. > > > > Chapter 16 of the online hanbook has a section regarding DVD's: > > > > http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/creating-dvds.html > > > > OT, but could you burn say 5 audio CD's onto a DVD and listen > on your computer? Just wondering why nobody had audio on > "DVD"-length discs. > > gary > > > > -- > Gary Kline kline@thought.org www.thought.org Public > service Unix > I've burned mp3's to DVD's, which works great on the computer. I've never understood why the portable CD players that can play mp3's aren't DVD-ROM's. Andrew From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Dec 14 23:27:11 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: Freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: Freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CD3B816A41F for ; Wed, 14 Dec 2005 23:27:11 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from vincent@i-the.nl) Received: from juno.adsl.utwente.nl (juno.adsl.utwente.nl [130.89.227.72]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EB12143D46 for ; Wed, 14 Dec 2005 23:27:10 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from vincent@i-the.nl) Received: from Apollo (vincent.adsl.utwente.nl [192.168.0.1]) by juno.adsl.utwente.nl (8.13.4/8.13.3) with ESMTP id jBENR0g3060031 for ; Thu, 15 Dec 2005 00:27:09 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from vincent@i-the.nl) From: "Vincent The" To: Date: Thu, 15 Dec 2005 00:26:55 +0100 Organization: I-The Message-ID: <000001c60105$e524db60$39e65982@Apollo> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.4024 Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: Subject: SIS 965L Network support X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: vincent@i-the.nl List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 14 Dec 2005 23:27:11 -0000 Hi, I have a Asus Pundit AE3 (Asus K8S-MV-P Motherboard) with an integrated LAN chip which should resemble the SiS 190/191 device. I'm a complete noob at driver issues on FreeBSD so my efforts to cheat the if_sis driver by adding the Device ID didn't result in a working device. It is detected now, which is an improvement, but there are some issues left which are beyond my capabilities of solving. Anyone who can give me a hand with this? I really need this stuff to work. The output from pciconf: none0@pci0:4:0: class=0x020000 card=0x81391043 chip=0x01901039 rev=0x00 hdr=0x00 vendor = 'Silicon Integrated Systems (SiS)' class = network subclass = Ethernet Dmesg output (after editing if_sis.c to incorporate the device ID) sis0: port 0xb800-0xb87f mem 0xfbeffc00-0xfbeffc7f irq 19 at device 4.0 on pci0 sis0: couldn't map ports/memory device_attach: sis0 attach returned 6 I'm running FreeBSD 6.0 AMD64 Release Thanks in advance, Vincent The From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Dec 14 23:27:12 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C128A16A41F for ; Wed, 14 Dec 2005 23:27:12 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from Sowmya.Krishnaswamy@nokia.com) Received: from mgw-ext03.nokia.com (mgw-ext03.nokia.com [131.228.20.95]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B382543D4C for ; Wed, 14 Dec 2005 23:27:11 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from Sowmya.Krishnaswamy@nokia.com) Received: from esebh106.NOE.Nokia.com (esebh106.ntc.nokia.com [172.21.138.213]) by mgw-ext03.nokia.com (Switch-3.1.7/Switch-3.1.7) with ESMTP id jBENNUHF011946 for ; Thu, 15 Dec 2005 01:23:30 +0200 Received: from daebh101.NOE.Nokia.com ([10.241.35.111]) by esebh106.NOE.Nokia.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.1830); Thu, 15 Dec 2005 01:27:06 +0200 Received: from mvebe101.NOE.Nokia.com ([172.19.64.23]) by daebh101.NOE.Nokia.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.1830); Wed, 14 Dec 2005 17:27:04 -0600 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5.7233.31 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Date: Wed, 14 Dec 2005 15:27:03 -0800 Message-ID: <893AE265F4ADF94AB7FB26D31A788E41016361DC@mvebe101.NOE.Nokia.com> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: Unable to connect to FreeBSD 6.0 machine using serial port (COM-1) Thread-Index: AcYBBeOySK5SVFTbR/WvbbXoobBKzw== From: To: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 14 Dec 2005 23:27:04.0745 (UTC) FILETIME=[E48B8190:01C60105] Subject: Unable to connect to FreeBSD 6.0 machine using serial port (COM-1) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 14 Dec 2005 23:27:12 -0000 Hello,=20 I just installed FreeBSD 6.0 from ftp://ftp.freebsd.org. When I try to access the=20 system by connected a serial console. I do not see any output. (It just hangs). 1. I have created a file /boot/boot.conf with line -h in it.=20 2. Edited the /etc/ttys to change the /dev/ttyd0 line to read ttyd0 "/usr/libexec/getty std.9600" vt100 on secure. Instead of=20 ttyd0 "/usr/libexec/getty std.9600" dialup off secure. 3. The /usr/src/sys/i386/conf/GENERIC file has an entry device sio 4. The /usr/src/sys/i386/conf/GENERIC.hints has hint.sio.0.flags=3D"0x10" The /var/log/messages has the following lines. sio0: configured irq 0 not in bitmap of probed irqs 0 sio0: port may not be enabled. sio0: <16550A-Compatible Com Port> port 0x3f8-0x3ff irq 4 flag 0x10 on acpio0 sio0: type 16550A.=20 sio1: configured irq 0 not in bitmap of probed irqs 0 sio1: port may not be enabled. gettty repeating too quickly on port /dev/ttyd0, sleeping for 30s. Am I missing something. Please advise. Thanks, Sowmya From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Dec 15 00:13:49 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7605E16A41F for ; Thu, 15 Dec 2005 00:13:49 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from mikeala3@hotmail.com) Received: from hotmail.com (bay7-f18.bay7.hotmail.com [64.4.11.18]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2F72443D49 for ; Thu, 15 Dec 2005 00:13:48 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from mikeala3@hotmail.com) Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Wed, 14 Dec 2005 16:13:48 -0800 Message-ID: Received: from 68.237.164.173 by by7fd.bay7.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Thu, 15 Dec 2005 00:13:48 GMT X-Originating-IP: [61.95.65.37] X-Originating-Email: [mikeala3@hotmail.com] X-Sender: mikeala3@hotmail.com From: "Mike Esquardez" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Thu, 15 Dec 2005 00:13:48 +0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed X-OriginalArrivalTime: 15 Dec 2005 00:13:48.0585 (UTC) FILETIME=[6BC38990:01C6010C] Subject: Insecure Web App Hosting X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 15 Dec 2005 00:13:49 -0000 i have to install a server that will host a "test drive" of a web app on the internet. from my inital look at the app, it looks like it will be a target to be exploited. i am not involved with the code so fixing it is not an option. what i would like to try and do is host it in a manner where i can minimize the risk and damage. it will only have sample data and it doesnt have to be "live". some ideas i have- automate disk imaging or rsync. read only filesystem. integrity tool. live cd version of the app. any other ideas????? its using apache/php/mysql and i have explained that it might not be fully functional or might have to be offline for a small amount of time each day. i have only just switched to freebsd so if any one has any links to some docs or tools that would be helpful. thankyou. Mike _________________________________________________________________ FREE pop-up blocking with the new MSN Toolbar - get it now! http://toolbar.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200415ave/direct/01/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Dec 15 00:31:36 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A7A3816A41F for ; Thu, 15 Dec 2005 00:31:36 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from pietro.cerutti@gmail.com) Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.206]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CEFC643D4C for ; Thu, 15 Dec 2005 00:31:35 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from pietro.cerutti@gmail.com) Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 12so270937nzp for ; Wed, 14 Dec 2005 16:31:34 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=Mg/unSGaVddEFF+1CPZgFEfmbpub/sz6LxG6VOxa44s0PTzGfYs43N75idL8qpPCbW4BJco8u0EcdpCqLTNgp6VXDilTycvuZ8EfUXy6kxTNwfDHT3auuiI/t2Z+HcVT0mP/M99welm61h1emg/TbWAPOPao9i9eeUc9S+vdU2Y= Received: by 10.65.35.10 with SMTP id n10mr828673qbj; Wed, 14 Dec 2005 16:31:34 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.64.150.18 with HTTP; Wed, 14 Dec 2005 16:31:34 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: Date: Thu, 15 Dec 2005 01:31:34 +0100 From: Pietro Cerutti To: FreeBSD In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline References: Subject: Re: Insecure Web App Hosting X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 15 Dec 2005 00:31:36 -0000 On 12/15/05, Mike Esquardez wrote: > i have to install a server that will host a "test drive" of a web app on = the > internet. from my inital look at the app, it looks like it will be a targ= et > to be exploited. i am not involved with the code so fixing it is not an > option. what i would like to try and do is host it in a manner where i ca= n > minimize the risk and damage. it will only have sample data and it doesnt > have to be "live". some ideas i have- > > automate disk imaging or rsync. > read only filesystem. > integrity tool. > live cd version of the app. > > any other ideas????? What about putting your services in a jail(8) ? > > its using apache/php/mysql and i have explained that it might not be full= y > functional or might have to be offline for a small amount of time each da= y. > i have only just switched to freebsd so if any one has any links to some > docs or tools that would be helpful. thankyou. > Mike > > _________________________________________________________________ > FREE pop-up blocking with the new MSN Toolbar - get it now! > http://toolbar.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200415ave/direct/01/ > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.o= rg" > -- Pietro Cerutti Beansidhe - SwiSS Death / Thrash Metal Windows: "Where do you want to go today?" Linux: "Where do you want to go tomorrow?" FreeBSD: "Are you guys coming or what?" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Dec 15 00:33:27 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 92ECD16A41F for ; Thu, 15 Dec 2005 00:33:27 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from dan@ferrarishields.com) Received: from mail.ferrarishields.com (mail.ferrarishields.com [216.82.146.20]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 470FE43D5A for ; Thu, 15 Dec 2005 00:33:27 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from dan@ferrarishields.com) Received: from ws4 (ws4 [10.70.153.5]) by mail.ferrarishields.com (Postfix) with SMTP id D818373022; Wed, 14 Dec 2005 16:33:26 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <011b01c6010f$2de5cd10$0599460a@ws4> From: "Dan O'Connor" To: "Pietro Cerutti" , "FreeBSD" References: Date: Wed, 14 Dec 2005 16:33:30 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2670 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2670 Cc: Subject: Re: Policy on the list X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 15 Dec 2005 00:33:27 -0000 > is it correct / useful / polite to close a thread marking it as > [solved] or something like this, or it's just a waste of time / space > / .... ? > I think it could be useful, so other people wanting to help don't > waste time trying to give further advices, and people needing help in > that subject can see that the problem has been solved. I'd like to see a wrap-up post, with '[solved]' in the subject, and including what the working solution actually is; that way, someone searching the mailing list archives can quickly home-in on the solution... And remember, a search of the archives is pretty-much mandatory before you post for help...or sure enough, someone will jump all over you! :-) ~Dan From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Dec 15 00:42:09 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5395516A41F for ; Thu, 15 Dec 2005 00:42:09 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from pietro.cerutti@gmail.com) Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.196]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6194D43D69 for ; Thu, 15 Dec 2005 00:42:08 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from pietro.cerutti@gmail.com) Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 68so484262wra for ; Wed, 14 Dec 2005 16:42:07 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=cJ87Y+N8+bCBpb8tglIyq/H6vukd6xZLWJGzzyzI0bBWFYWk9pkiECGKRiRQufFppiFxlI9wEpnecQ+GG25vqFolesY53VlAzFw21YPsoWsPyaO9yDkOlRsvCBly/Df3TsNheyoaoEzJhpnZKkxuorn/Fajf6Y8F/mXYF/T2vKo= Received: by 10.65.191.11 with SMTP id t11mr838670qbp; Wed, 14 Dec 2005 16:42:07 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.64.150.18 with HTTP; Wed, 14 Dec 2005 16:42:07 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: Date: Thu, 15 Dec 2005 01:42:07 +0100 From: Pietro Cerutti To: FreeBSD In-Reply-To: <011b01c6010f$2de5cd10$0599460a@ws4> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline References: <011b01c6010f$2de5cd10$0599460a@ws4> Subject: Re: Policy on the list X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 15 Dec 2005 00:42:09 -0000 On 12/15/05, Dan O'Connor wrote: > > I'd like to see a wrap-up post, with '[solved]' in the subject, and > including what the working solution actually is; that way, someone > searching the mailing list archives can quickly home-in on the > solution... Yes, this is pretty much what I had in mind. > > And remember, a search of the archives is pretty-much mandatory before > you post for help...or sure enough, someone will jump all over you! :-) Sure! > > ~Dan > > > -- Pietro Cerutti Beansidhe - SwiSS Death / Thrash Metal Windows: "Where do you want to go today?" Linux: "Where do you want to go tomorrow?" FreeBSD: "Are you guys coming or what?" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Dec 15 00:47:43 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4874D16A41F for ; Thu, 15 Dec 2005 00:47:43 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jocxxx@gmail.com) Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.199]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EE34F43D75 for ; Thu, 15 Dec 2005 00:47:29 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jocxxx@gmail.com) Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 67so685899wri for ; Wed, 14 Dec 2005 16:47:27 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type; b=lVWYsd5WkWuxuf29QahUUHLbt2kzk0ZeS4CQxoKTKZzHX2gIVzV/1XmK5+g2QuhTWrvAym2kwa9FIF/VU17QPx8sh6ax3b85FfWmVOdQlIHf4QKRmwl1W0ywdCLiZyGejvzhfrCu62aS7jFjwr6iJP/jCZ6NqjYH3pQXdv4weps= Received: by 10.65.148.13 with SMTP id a13mr844338qbo; Wed, 14 Dec 2005 16:47:27 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.65.115.18 with HTTP; Wed, 14 Dec 2005 16:47:27 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: Date: Wed, 14 Dec 2005 19:47:27 -0500 From: john crawford To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: fixit 4.11 tty device not configured X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 15 Dec 2005 00:47:43 -0000 hello, I'm booting to the fixit cdrom of 4.11 - I think it is disc2 of the iso images. If I try to do a "fixit" mode remote command with ssh from the serial console (boot -h) I get cannot open /dev/tty: Device not configured If I do the same thing from the vga / keyboard console it doesn't hang up and it does prompt me for the remote password. It works okay there but I can not copy paste text. What bits of cleverness will allow me to get my ssh prompt with the primitive fixit environment via serial? Here's an example. cdom fixit 4.11 boot -h [detections] Mounting root from ufs:/dev/md0c /stand/sysinstall running as init on serial console Your choice: (1-5) 2 (vt100) DEBUG: fixit: I can't set the controlling terminal. Waiting for fixit shell to exit. When you are done, type ``exit'' to exit the fixit shell and be returned here. sh: can't access tty; job control turned off +---------------------------------------------------------------+ | You are now running from FreeBSD "fixit" media. | | ------------------------------------------------------------- | | When you're finished with this shell, please type exit. | | The fixit media is mounted as /mnt2. | | | | You might want to symlink /mnt/etc/*pwd.db and /mnt/etc/group | | to /etc after mounting a root filesystem from your disk. | | tar(1) will not restore all permissions correctly otherwise! | | | | Note: you might use the arrow keys to browse through the | | command history of this shell. | +---------------------------------------------------------------+ Good Luck! Fixit# Fixit# mkdir -p /tmp/dev Fixit# cp /dist/dev/MA* /tmp/dev/ Fixit# cd /tmp/dev Fixit# ./MAKEDEV amrd0 Fixit# ./MAKEDEV amrd1 Here, I do various newfs and mounts Fixit# newfs -b 16384 -f 2048 /tmp/dev/amrd0s1a mount -o async /tmp/dev/amrd0s1a /mnt etc Fixit# export TMPDIR=3D/mnt/nicetempplace Fixit# ifconfig em0 alias netmask (alias there not necessary) Fixit# ls -l / >> /dev/random Fixit# ls -l / >> /dev/random Fixit# ls -l / >> /dev/random Fixit# ls -l / >> /dev/random Fixit# ls -l / >> /dev/random Fixit# cd /mnt Fixit# ssh -e none operator@ 'dump -0f - /' | restore -ruf - cannot open /dev/tty: Device not configured Thanks for any ideas, John From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Dec 15 00:48:48 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 844BA16A41F for ; Thu, 15 Dec 2005 00:48:48 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from lane@joeandlane.com) Received: from smtpauth08.mail.atl.earthlink.net (smtpauth08.mail.atl.earthlink.net [209.86.89.68]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D360A43D45 for ; Thu, 15 Dec 2005 00:48:30 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from lane@joeandlane.com) Received: from [66.47.111.183] (helo=joeandlane.com) by smtpauth08.mail.atl.earthlink.net with asmtp (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.34) id 1EmhID-00070f-2a for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Wed, 14 Dec 2005 19:48:21 -0500 Received: from joeandlane.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by joeandlane.com (8.13.5/8.13.1) with ESMTP id jBF0vcVu098478 for ; Wed, 14 Dec 2005 18:57:38 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from lane@joeandlane.com) Received: from localhost (localhost [[UNIX: localhost]]) by joeandlane.com (8.13.5/8.13.1/Submit) id jBF0vcVF098477 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Wed, 14 Dec 2005 18:57:38 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from lane@joeandlane.com) X-Authentication-Warning: joeandlane.com: lholcombe set sender to lane@joeandlane.com using -f From: Lane To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Wed, 14 Dec 2005 18:57:37 -0600 User-Agent: KMail/1.8 References: <011b01c6010f$2de5cd10$0599460a@ws4> In-Reply-To: <011b01c6010f$2de5cd10$0599460a@ws4> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200512141857.38164.lane@joeandlane.com> X-CD-SOLUTIONS-MailScanner-Information: Please contact the ISP for more information X-CD-SOLUTIONS-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-CD-SOLUTIONS-MailScanner-From: lane@joeandlane.com X-ELNK-Trace: e56a4b6ca9bdfda11aa676d7e74259b7b3291a7d08dfec792f3f3791c241080ebf247db026fc1dd4350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c X-Originating-IP: 66.47.111.183 Subject: Re: Policy on the list [solved] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 15 Dec 2005 00:48:48 -0000 On Wednesday 14 December 2005 18:33, Dan O'Connor wrote: > > is it correct / useful / polite to close a thread marking it as > > [solved] or something like this, or it's just a waste of time / space > > / .... ? > > > > I think it could be useful, so other people wanting to help don't > > waste time trying to give further advices, and people needing help in > > that subject can see that the problem has been solved. > > I'd like to see a wrap-up post, with '[solved]' in the subject, and > including what the working solution actually is; that way, someone > searching the mailing list archives can quickly home-in on the > solution... > > And remember, a search of the archives is pretty-much mandatory before > you post for help...or sure enough, someone will jump all over you! :-) > > ~Dan > Here, Here! What a time-saver this solution will be! KuDo's! Dan and Pietro! lane ~himself more a seeker than a solver From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Dec 15 00:55:23 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 69B7916A41F for ; Thu, 15 Dec 2005 00:55:23 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from kline@tao.thought.org) Received: from tao.thought.org (dsl231-043-140.sea1.dsl.speakeasy.net [216.231.43.140]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 81EF843D49 for ; Thu, 15 Dec 2005 00:55:22 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from kline@tao.thought.org) Received: from tao.thought.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by tao.thought.org (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id jBF0tLSP045058; Wed, 14 Dec 2005 16:55:21 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from kline@tao.thought.org) Received: (from kline@localhost) by tao.thought.org (8.13.1/8.13.1/Submit) id jBF0tKBl045057; Wed, 14 Dec 2005 16:55:20 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from kline) Date: Wed, 14 Dec 2005 16:55:19 -0800 From: Gary Kline To: Kent Stewart Message-ID: <20051215005519.GA44946@thought.org> References: <20051214171014.GB37495@thought.org> <7088318B-3141-44E6-9F50-CB51F6CAE501@mac.com> <20051214211749.GJ41870@thought.org> <200512141342.22051.kstewart@owt.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <200512141342.22051.kstewart@owt.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i X-Organization: Thought Unlimited. Public service Unix since 1986. X-Of_Interest: Observing 19 years of service to the Unix community Cc: Gary Kline , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: fquestions X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 15 Dec 2005 00:55:23 -0000 On Wed, Dec 14, 2005 at 01:42:21PM -0800, Kent Stewart wrote: > On Wednesday 14 December 2005 01:17 pm, Gary Kline wrote: > > On Wed, Dec 14, 2005 at 02:44:40PM -0500, Charles Swiger wrote: > > > On Dec 14, 2005, at 2:21 PM, Gary Kline wrote: > > > >>You forgot to tell us which VIA chipset or MB-- there are lots > > > >> and lots of VIA-based motherboards around, with a wide variety > > > >> of hardware. > > > > Here's his AMD chip and m'board. The great thing about the > > unix-way{tm} is that the latest and greatest works with the > > slower processors. My (used) HP boxes are happy, good > > performers at 400MHz, e.g. ...But I'm finally learning things- > > Gnome and -KDE and this does take more punch. Besides, I'm > > looking foirward to having a make world happen during a > > coffee break :-) > > > > gary > > > > > > > > ECS 741GX Motherboard and AMD 2800+. > > You must take long coffee breaks :). Here are times for 6-r and 6-stable > > RELENG_6-release > 2803.276u 556.721s 1:01:03.52 91.7% 3728+2613k 17698+2443io > 1315pf+0w > 2872.010u 543.192s 1:08:04.53 83.6% 3726+2594k 27248+3651io > 1983pf+0w > > You can see that the buildworld required an hour plus on a 2800+. If > there are ways to make it compile faster, I would really like to know > how. All that is turned on is "NO_PROFILE=true". > > Kent > Good grief. I could be hallucinating, but it seems that a make world finished in about 2.5 hours on this box. This is 3/4th GB memory and 700+MHz. This was with 5.3 here. Does it make any sense to use O3 when compiling stuff, when stuff includes world/kernel/drivers? Does upping the optimization make any significant difference in system performance, in other words? Kent? Anybody? gary -- Gary Kline kline@thought.org www.thought.org Public service Unix From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Dec 15 00:59:43 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 570E516A41F for ; Thu, 15 Dec 2005 00:59:43 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from pietro.cerutti@gmail.com) Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.200]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E4BD543D5E for ; Thu, 15 Dec 2005 00:59:42 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from pietro.cerutti@gmail.com) Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id n1so313254nzf for ; Wed, 14 Dec 2005 16:59:42 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; b=K5yfxIIstxcxcqbedFnUKfY/BFB4frpn81e6rlbIyKhOkAkRrzKsA/ifidCfC8++x6cQ2DOog2vrIvYwfWxsAZMyqsdLEH8HxR5O5zzqVuDAHyGExDQ2XP9YluRAS6D5iacy/+N4H9PZYZ+LCfW3Q1Xs2VoBTj7zdHUfUt9jELk= Received: by 10.64.232.18 with SMTP id e18mr853327qbh; Wed, 14 Dec 2005 16:59:41 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.64.150.18 with HTTP; Wed, 14 Dec 2005 16:59:41 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: Date: Thu, 15 Dec 2005 01:59:41 +0100 From: Pietro Cerutti To: FreeBSD MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline Subject: Completely disable sendmail X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 15 Dec 2005 00:59:43 -0000 Hi list, before someone begins to flame me, I'll tell you that I'm running 6.0-STABLE and that my rc.conf contains: sendmail_enable=3D"NO" sendmail_submit_enable=3D"NO" sendmail_outbound_enable=3D"NO" sendmail_msp_queue_enable=3D"NO" In my crontab there is a job which runs every hour, and prints one line as output. This output should be mailed to me, but since I disabled sendmail, I guess it should get lost (which is what I'd want). Anyway, lost or not, I don't want to have it mailed to me, nor I want sendmail to bug my ttyv0 with such messages: sendmail[] My unqualified host name [] unknown. Sleeping for retry sendmail[] unable to qualify my own domain name () -- using short name My box is not a part of a domain, so the errors are justified, but this shows that sendmail is not completely disabled on my system... Now, I could solve this by redirecting the output of my job to /dev/null, but I don't see it as a smart solution. Any ideas? Thanx! -- Pietro Cerutti Beansidhe - SwiSS Death / Thrash Metal Windows: "Where do you want to go today?" Linux: "Where do you want to go tomorrow?" FreeBSD: "Are you guys coming or what?" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Dec 15 01:03:18 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0320116A41F for ; Thu, 15 Dec 2005 01:03:18 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from kline@tao.thought.org) Received: from tao.thought.org (dsl231-043-140.sea1.dsl.speakeasy.net [216.231.43.140]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3AFB443D5C for ; Thu, 15 Dec 2005 01:03:17 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from kline@tao.thought.org) Received: from tao.thought.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by tao.thought.org (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id jBF13Glw045124 for ; Wed, 14 Dec 2005 17:03:16 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from kline@tao.thought.org) Received: (from kline@localhost) by tao.thought.org (8.13.1/8.13.1/Submit) id jBF13FIU045123 for freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG; Wed, 14 Dec 2005 17:03:15 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from kline) Date: Wed, 14 Dec 2005 17:03:15 -0800 From: Gary Kline To: FreeBSD Mailing List Message-ID: <20051215010315.GB44946@thought.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i X-Organization: Thought Unlimited. Public service Unix since 1986. X-Of_Interest: Observing 19 years of service to the Unix community Cc: Subject: [sales@ecollegepc.com: Re: Re: looking for a good company... .] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 15 Dec 2005 01:03:18 -0000 I'm just forwarding the link to the AMD 2800 motherboard. Chances are that the board has the same questionable graphics chips that were on the Celeron mobo. I'd be much obliged for any insights. gary ----- Forwarded message from Sales ----- Date: Wed, 14 Dec 2005 17:01:24 -0600 From: "Sales" Subject: Re: Re: looking for a good company... . To: "Gary Kline" X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 Here is a link to the board. http://www.ecs.com.tw/ECSWeb/Products/ProductsDetail.aspx?DetailID=422&MenuID=24&LanID=9 [[ save the electrons ]] ----- End forwarded message ----- -- Gary Kline kline@thought.org www.thought.org Public service Unix From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Dec 15 01:03:45 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DE9B416A41F for ; Thu, 15 Dec 2005 01:03:45 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from justin@alt-network.com) Received: from newman.alt-network.com (wsip-68-110-223-100.ks.ok.cox.net [68.110.223.100]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D658A43D62 for ; Thu, 15 Dec 2005 01:03:44 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from justin@alt-network.com) Received: from [10.0.0.18] ([10.0.0.18]) by newman.alt-network.com (8.13.3/8.13.3) with ESMTP id jBF15d4x065052 for ; Wed, 14 Dec 2005 19:05:39 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from justin@alt-network.com) From: "Justin L. Boss" Organization: R Tech Guys To: questions@freebsd.org Date: Wed, 14 Dec 2005 19:03:48 -0600 User-Agent: KMail/1.8.3 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200512141903.49114.justin@alt-network.com> X-Milter: Spamilter (Reciever: newman.alt-network.com; Sender-ip: 10.0.0.18; Sender-helo: [10.0.0.18]; ) X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV version 0.87.1, clamav-milter version 0.87 on newman.alt-network.com X-Virus-Status: Clean Cc: Subject: Build world to only make and install the user install from sysinstall. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 15 Dec 2005 01:03:46 -0000 Okay if you think that subject was confusing this is totally confusing to me. I'm trying to do a Makeworld that will only install the user distributions install from sysinstall. As you can see below, the only two that match up are games and base. So how do you know what source to install to = the user distributions install. Or do you install all the source and then just use NO_????=yes in your make.conf. If so which ones do you use? Maybe a better question would be which NO_????=YES do i include in my make.conf to only build and install the user distributions from the sysinstall. Thanks for any help you might be able to give. The User install from sysinstall "Average user - binaries and doc only" [X] base Binary base distribution (required) [X] dict Spelling checker dictionary files [X] doc Miscellaneous FreeBSD online docs [ ] games Games (non-commercial) [ ] info GNU info files [X] man System manual pages - recommended [ ] catman Preformatted system manual pages [ ] proflibs Profiled versions of the libraries [ ] src Sources for everything [X] ports The FreeBSD Ports collection [ ] local Local additions collection [ ] X.Org The X.Org distribution The src from sysinstall "Sources for everything" [ ] base top-level files in /usr/src [ ] contrib /usr/src/contrib (contributed software) [ ] crypto /usr/src/crypto (contrib encryption sources) [ ] gnu /usr/src/gnu (software from the GNU Project) [ ] etc /usr/src/etc (miscellaneous system files) [ ] games /usr/src/games (the obvious!) [ ] include /usr/src/include (header files) [ ] krb5 /usr/src/kerberos5 (sources for Kerberos5) [ ] lib /usr/src/lib (system libraries) [ ] libexec /usr/src/libexec (system programs) [ ] release /usr/src/release (release-generation tools) [ ] rescue /usr/src/rescue (static rescue tools) [ ] bin /usr/src/bin (system binaries) [ ] sbin /usr/src/sbin (system binaries) [ ] secure /usr/src/secure (BSD encryption sources) [ ] share /usr/src/share (documents and shared files) [ ] sys /usr/src/sys (FreeBSD kernel) [ ] tools /usr/src/tools (miscellaneous tools) [ ] ubin /usr/src/usr.bin (user binaries) [ ] usbin /usr/src/usr.sbin (aux system binaries) The /etc/make.conf file. #NO_ACPI= # do not build acpiconf(8) and related programs #NO_ATM= # do not build ATM related programs and libraries #NO_AUTHPF= # do not build and install authpf (setuid/gid) #NO_BLUETOOTH= # do not build Bluetooth related stuff #NO_BOOT= # do not build boot blocks and loader #NO_CRYPT= # do not build any crypto code #NO_CVS= # do not build CVS #NO_CXX= # do not build C++ and friends #NO_DICT= # do not build the Webster dictionary files #NO_DYNAMICROOT= # do not link /bin and /sbin dynamically #NO_FORTRAN= # do not build g77 and related libraries #NO_GAMES= # do not build games (games/ subdir) #NO_GDB= # do not build GDB #NO_GPIB= # do not build GPIB support #NO_I4B= # do not build isdn4bsd package #NO_INET6= # do not build IPv6 related programs and libraries #NO_INFO= # do not make or install info files #NO_IPFILTER= # do not build IP Filter package #NO_KERBEROS= # do not build and install Kerberos 5 (KTH Heimdal) #NO_LIBC_R= # do not build libc_r (re-entrant version of libc) #NO_LIBPTHREAD= # do not build libpthread (M:N threading library) #NO_LIBTHR= # do not build libthr (1:1 threading library) #NO_LPR= # do not build lpr and related programs #NO_MAILWRAPPER= # do not build the mailwrapper(8) MTA selector #NO_MAN= # do not build manual pages #NO_MODULES= # do not build modules with the kernel #NO_NETCAT= # do not build netcat #NO_NIS= # do not build NIS support and related programs #NO_OBJC= # do not build Objective C support #NO_OPENSSH= # do not build OpenSSH #NO_OPENSSL= # do not build OpenSSL (implies NO_KERBEROS/NO_OPENSSH) #NO_PF= # do not build PF firewall package #NO_PROFILE= # Avoid compiling profiled libraries #NO_RCMDS= # do not build or install BSD r* commands (rsh, etc). #NO_SENDMAIL= # do not build sendmail and related programs #NO_SHARE= # do not go into the share subdir #NO_SHARED= # build /bin and /sbin dynamically linked (bad idea #NO_SHAREDOCS= # do not build the 4.4BSD legacy docs #NO_TCSH= # do not build and install /bin/csh (which is tcsh) #NO_TOOLCHAIN= # do not build programs for program development #NO_USB= # do not build usbd(8) and related programs From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Dec 15 01:07:04 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1931D16A41F for ; Thu, 15 Dec 2005 01:07:04 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from djp@polands.org) Received: from corinth.polands.org (CPE-72-129-222-120.new.res.rr.com [72.129.222.120]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3F53A43D5C for ; Thu, 15 Dec 2005 01:06:57 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from djp@polands.org) Received: from jericho.polands.org (jericho.polands.org [172.16.1.35]) by corinth.polands.org (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id jBF16t44067819; Wed, 14 Dec 2005 19:06:55 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from djp@polands.org) Received: from jericho.polands.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by jericho.polands.org (8.13.4/8.13.1) with ESMTP id jBF16s6D079455; Wed, 14 Dec 2005 19:06:54 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from djp@jericho.polands.org) Received: (from djp@localhost) by jericho.polands.org (8.13.4/8.13.1/Submit) id jBF16smp079454; Wed, 14 Dec 2005 19:06:54 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from djp) Date: Wed, 14 Dec 2005 19:06:54 -0600 From: Doug Poland To: Pietro Cerutti Message-ID: <20051215010643.GA79430@polands.org> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.11 X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV 0.87/1209/Mon Dec 12 09:48:01 2005 on corinth.polands.org X-Virus-Status: Clean Cc: FreeBSD Subject: Re: Completely disable sendmail X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 15 Dec 2005 01:07:04 -0000 On Thu, Dec 15, 2005 at 01:59:41AM +0100, Pietro Cerutti wrote: > > before someone begins to flame me, I'll tell you that I'm running > 6.0-STABLE and that my rc.conf contains: > no flames, relax :) > sendmail_enable="NO" > sendmail_submit_enable="NO" > sendmail_outbound_enable="NO" > sendmail_msp_queue_enable="NO" > /etc/defaults/rc.conf used to (5.x?) document sendmail_enable="NONE" to completely disable sendmail. Not sure where/if it's documented now. Once set, I believe you can disregard all the other settings. -- Regards, Doug From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Dec 15 01:12:27 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7574C16A41F for ; Thu, 15 Dec 2005 01:12:27 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jerrymc@clunix.cl.msu.edu) Received: from clunix.cl.msu.edu (clunix.cl.msu.edu [35.9.2.10]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1474343D46 for ; Thu, 15 Dec 2005 01:12:26 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jerrymc@clunix.cl.msu.edu) Received: from clunix.cl.msu.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by clunix.cl.msu.edu (8.12.10+Sun/8.12.2) with ESMTP id jBF1CQ38028328; Wed, 14 Dec 2005 20:12:26 -0500 (EST) Received: (from jerrymc@localhost) by clunix.cl.msu.edu (8.12.10+Sun/8.12.2/Submit) id jBF1CQhq028327; Wed, 14 Dec 2005 20:12:26 -0500 (EST) From: Jerry McAllister Message-Id: <200512150112.jBF1CQhq028327@clunix.cl.msu.edu> To: pietro.cerutti@gmail.com (Pietro Cerutti) Date: Wed, 14 Dec 2005 20:12:26 -0500 (EST) In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.5 PL7] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: FreeBSD Subject: Re: Policy on the list X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 15 Dec 2005 01:12:27 -0000 > > Hi list, > just a little question about how to behave on the list(s): > > is it correct / useful / polite to close a thread marking it as > [solved] or something like this, or it's just a waste of time / space > / .... ? > > I think it could be useful, so other people wanting to help don't > waste time trying to give further advices, and people needing help in > that subject can see that the problem has been solved. I don't know the official list rule (guess I could go read it) but I like to see a message noting something is solved and some info - a brief summary on how it was solved. I don't think it is a waste of time unless you go on and on with personal details that don't really pertain to the solution. ////jerry > > Thanx, > > -- > Pietro Cerutti > > > Beansidhe - SwiSS Death / Thrash Metal > > > Windows: "Where do you want to go today?" > Linux: "Where do you want to go tomorrow?" > FreeBSD: "Are you guys coming or what?" > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Dec 15 01:24:26 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7771016A420 for ; Thu, 15 Dec 2005 01:24:26 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: from aiolos.otenet.gr (aiolos.otenet.gr [195.170.0.93]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AE11C43D58 for ; Thu, 15 Dec 2005 01:24:24 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: from flame.pc (aris.bedc.ondsl.gr [62.103.39.226]) by aiolos.otenet.gr (8.13.4/8.13.4/Debian-8) with SMTP id jBF1OC8v013894; Thu, 15 Dec 2005 03:24:13 +0200 Received: by flame.pc (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 1BE8411455; Thu, 15 Dec 2005 03:23:18 +0200 (EET) Date: Thu, 15 Dec 2005 03:23:18 +0200 From: Giorgos Keramidas To: "Justin L. Boss" Message-ID: <20051215012317.GA32962@flame.pc> References: <200512141903.49114.justin@alt-network.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <200512141903.49114.justin@alt-network.com> Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Build world to only make and install the user install from sysinstall. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 15 Dec 2005 01:24:26 -0000 On 2005-12-14 19:03, "Justin L. Boss" wrote: > Okay if you think that subject was confusing this is totally confusing > to me. I'm trying to do a Makeworld that will only install the user > distributions install from sysinstall. As you can see below, the only > two that match up are games and base. So how do you know what source > to install to = the user distributions install. Or do you install all > the source and then just use NO_????=yes in your make.conf. If so > which ones do you use? Maybe a better question would be which > NO_????=YES do i include in my make.conf to only build and install the > user distributions from the sysinstall. Thanks for any help you might > be able to give. > > The User install from sysinstall "Average user - binaries and doc > only" > [ ] games Games (non-commercial) NO_GAMES=yes > [ ] info GNU info files NO_INFO=yes > [ ] catman Preformatted system manual pages I'm not sure if there is a NO_XXX knob for this. The 'preformatted' manpages are created only when you run man(1) as root, but you can erase those by periodically running: # cd /usr/share/man # rm cat*/* cat*/*/* > [ ] proflibs Profiled versions of the libraries NO_PROFILE=yes > [ ] src Sources for everything > [ ] local Local additions collection > [ ] X.Org The X.Org distribution There are no NO_XXX knobs for these. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Dec 15 01:29:09 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BE50616A41F for ; Thu, 15 Dec 2005 01:29:09 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from gentoo@tmgcon.com) Received: from tmgcon.com (tmgcon.com [204.202.11.250]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 82A6843D55 for ; Thu, 15 Dec 2005 01:29:09 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from gentoo@tmgcon.com) Received: from gentoo.lan.tmgcon.com (222-153-226-30.jetstream.xtra.co.nz [222.153.226.30]) (authenticated bits=0) by tmgcon.com (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id jBF1T87J074693 for ; Thu, 15 Dec 2005 01:29:09 GMT From: Tom Munro Glass To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Thu, 15 Dec 2005 14:29:06 +1300 User-Agent: KMail/1.8.3 References: <200512131412.24449.gentoo@tmgcon.com> <20051213134703.GB13012@laverenz.de> In-Reply-To: <20051213134703.GB13012@laverenz.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200512151429.06153.gentoo@tmgcon.com> Subject: Re: Problem installing devel/pear X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 15 Dec 2005 01:29:09 -0000 Uwe, I've seen the thread on the ports@ mailing list but there doesn't seem to be any mention of a solution there yet. Have you managed to fix the problem on your machines yet? Tom On Wed, 14 Dec 2005 02:47, Uwe Laverenz wrote: > On Tue, Dec 13, 2005 at 02:12:24PM +1300, Tom Munro Glass wrote: > > Stop in /ports/devel/pear. > > > > Can someone please tell me how to fix this? > > I have the same problem on two machines and I don't have a solution for > this, but there's a thread about this in the @ports mailing list. > > Uwe > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Dec 15 01:37:50 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2364B16A41F for ; Thu, 15 Dec 2005 01:37:50 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from cswiger@mac.com) Received: from pi.codefab.com (pi.codefab.com [199.103.21.227]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F00C543D68 for ; Thu, 15 Dec 2005 01:37:48 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from cswiger@mac.com) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pi.codefab.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C532B5DAE; Wed, 14 Dec 2005 20:37:47 -0500 (EST) Received: from pi.codefab.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (pi.codefab.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 17522-07; Wed, 14 Dec 2005 20:37:47 -0500 (EST) Received: from [192.168.1.3] (pool-68-161-122-227.ny325.east.verizon.net [68.161.122.227]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by pi.codefab.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C05315CEE; Wed, 14 Dec 2005 20:37:46 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <43A0C8ED.4090209@mac.com> Date: Wed, 14 Dec 2005 20:37:49 -0500 From: Chuck Swiger Organization: The Courts of Chaos User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.7 (Windows/20050923) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Gary Kline References: <20051214171014.GB37495@thought.org> <7088318B-3141-44E6-9F50-CB51F6CAE501@mac.com> <20051214211749.GJ41870@thought.org> <200512141342.22051.kstewart@owt.com> <20051215005519.GA44946@thought.org> In-Reply-To: <20051215005519.GA44946@thought.org> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.93.0.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at codefab.com Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, Kent Stewart Subject: Re: fquestions X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 15 Dec 2005 01:37:50 -0000 Gary Kline wrote: > On Wed, Dec 14, 2005 at 01:42:21PM -0800, Kent Stewart wrote: [ ... ] > Does it make any sense to use O3 when compiling stuff, > when stuff includes world/kernel/drivers? Does upping the > optimization make any significant difference in system > performance, in other words? Kent? Anybody? No. You are likely to vastly increase the amount of time it takes to compile the system without gaining any performance that's noticable. The system generally shouldn't be spending a lot of CPU in the kernel, anyway, compared with the amount of time running user-mode code. (Firewalls and routers are a significant exception, however.) If you want your system to perform better, benchmark the work it's actually doing, and then tune from there. Spending lots of time to optimize a part of the system that is already pretty efficient isn't going to do much, whereas solving the bottleneck will make a useful difference. -- -Chuck From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Dec 15 02:16:44 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1534216A41F for ; Thu, 15 Dec 2005 02:16:44 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from kline@tao.thought.org) Received: from tao.thought.org (dsl231-043-140.sea1.dsl.speakeasy.net [216.231.43.140]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 743C943D4C for ; Thu, 15 Dec 2005 02:16:43 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from kline@tao.thought.org) Received: from tao.thought.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by tao.thought.org (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id jBF2GgAr045547 for ; Wed, 14 Dec 2005 18:16:42 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from kline@tao.thought.org) Received: (from kline@localhost) by tao.thought.org (8.13.1/8.13.1/Submit) id jBF2Gfus045546 for freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG; Wed, 14 Dec 2005 18:16:41 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from kline) Date: Wed, 14 Dec 2005 18:16:41 -0800 From: Gary Kline To: FreeBSD Mailing List Message-ID: <20051215021641.GA45523@thought.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i X-Organization: Thought Unlimited. Public service Unix since 1986. X-Of_Interest: Observing 19 years of service to the Unix community Cc: Subject: this AMD motherboard? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 15 Dec 2005 02:16:44 -0000 Can anyone tell if the graphics chips on this card will work with X? If not, then does anybody have an idea of what kinds of cards are better/worse? thanks in advance, gary http://www.ecs.com.tw/ECSWeb/Products/ProductsDetail.aspx?DetailID=422&MenuID=24&LanID=9 -- Gary Kline kline@thought.org www.thought.org Public service Unix From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Dec 15 02:37:20 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B408D16A41F for ; Thu, 15 Dec 2005 02:37:20 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) Received: from mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com (mail.web-strider.com [65.75.192.90]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0B30143D53 for ; Thu, 15 Dec 2005 02:37:19 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) Received: from tedwin2k (nat-rtr.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [65.75.197.130]) by mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com (8.11.1/8.11.1) with SMTP id jBF2eKb11055; Wed, 14 Dec 2005 18:40:21 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) From: "Ted Mittelstaedt" To: "gwen" Date: Wed, 14 Dec 2005 18:37:06 -0800 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1250" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.6604 (9.0.2911.0) In-Reply-To: <20051214203437.GA17667@nvnsvch.org> Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1506 Cc: caleb , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, RW Subject: RE: pine X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 15 Dec 2005 02:37:20 -0000 >-----Original Message----- >From: gwen [mailto:gwen@nvnsvch.org] >Sent: Wednesday, December 14, 2005 12:35 PM >To: Ted Mittelstaedt >Cc: RW; freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; caleb >Subject: Re: pine > > >* Ted Mittelstaedt (tedm@toybox.placo.com) [051214 15:22]: >> >> >> >> 'Can't do secure authentication with this server' >> > >> >If the server supports neither ssl, nor any form secure >> >authentication, there >> >nothing you can do to protect your password. >> >> Garbage. >> >> The first thing you can do is go out and shoo the crackers >> off the telephone pole who are tapped into your phone line >> and sniffing your passwords. >> >> Then you can ask your ISP to start locking the door to his >> NOC and kick out all the crackers who have sleeping bags in >> the NOC and are tapped into the ISP's ethernet cable from his >> router to his mail server. >> >> But the thing that would probably put your mind at ease the most >> is to stop going to Hollywood movies like The Net which make it appear >> as though crackers can magically sniff your cleartext passwords >> when they have access to the network between your >> PC and the ISP's mailserver. > >Have you ever seen the output of tcpdump? You see anything on the >same network as you. So any of the following *likely* situations >leaves your non-encrypted password open for sniffing: > >1) Wireless access, *any* wireless access. Er, WEP anyone? Do you really think if this poster is smart enough to figure out how to turn on SSL on pine that he hasn't already thought of that? >2) Cable modem pools, or any internet hookup where there's a communal >line shared. Nope either. If cable networks allowed unicast packets to flood every subscriber then it would knock all their subscribers offline. Consider the typical cable modem is a 2-3MB device. Now compare that the the average amount of bandwidth in use on a typical cable segment - we are talking hundreds of mbts. Your not going to stuff all that traffic down a cable modem. As for other communal networks, granted if such a network was plugged into a HUB and not a SWITCH then yes. How likely do you think that scenario is? Even 10/100 24 port switches are going for under $50 on Ebay these days, so those on complete shoestring networks have no excuse for keeping an ancient hub in service. Granted while you can flood a switch to force it into unicast mode, the network then crawls, lots of complaints result, miscreant soon taken care of. >3) public networks (OK, I know the scenario presented is for home >usage, but it's worth it to put this point here). Yes it is but the only public networks that fit this bill are wireless ones, like in an airport or coffee shop. Presumably the ISP has a SSL webinterface on their mailserver for this. But, if you know your going into this kind of area then change your password before leaving home, if you must use your pop client. >4) Any network where a computer has been at all compromised. I can insert a keyboard logger that will defeat any encryption you want. And if the ISP is compromised then the likelihood is their mailserver, which is a much softer target, will be compromised long before any network device. And once the attacker has the mailserver, he doesen't need the passwords anyhow. >5) Any ISP with untrustable SysAdmins (I've known this to happen). How is encryption on the password channel to the mailserver, which is admined by these untrustable sysadmins, going to help with -that-? >6) Almost a corrolary to 5) and 3); any ISP with a compromised machine. > if you don't trust your ISP to be competent, you may as well not use their mailserver then. Why would you use it? Email comes in off the Internet unencrypted, if they want to read your mail they can. >You cannot assume that there are not nasty sniffers on your line. >I have seen passwords sniffed out in all kinds of places. > So you figured out how to run a sniffer on a public wireless node. Ted >And with that, I go back into lurking mode. > >gwen. > gamergothgeekgrrl. > http://www.gw3n.com/ > >* martygreene shivvers > why is it so damn cold? > >-- >No virus found in this incoming message. >Checked by AVG Free Edition. >Version: 7.1.371 / Virus Database: 267.13.13/199 - Release >Date: 12/13/2005 > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Dec 15 02:46:59 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0DDC016A41F for ; Thu, 15 Dec 2005 02:46:59 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from spamrefuse@yahoo.com) Received: from web36205.mail.mud.yahoo.com (web36205.mail.mud.yahoo.com [209.191.68.231]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 983B543D5F for ; Thu, 15 Dec 2005 02:46:58 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from spamrefuse@yahoo.com) Received: (qmail 67716 invoked by uid 60001); 15 Dec 2005 02:46:58 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:Cc:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=VIFmnZA4eJEhVOpqYEOZwmcQJBHtb6hQy+jwteb+0p0HKEQq/Cfm7kf5TJUkZlklLgM/7JZ/trXzt1+ZDv+w1GU7wj4ha68GR1Rriw8AhfqAItFCVsEyTY8ixGKy2dBV7L1dhH+sUhmgDLOOP5oMKzGTHnzYH1zaomMaACt2zCY= ; Message-ID: <20051215024658.67714.qmail@web36205.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Received: from [147.46.44.181] by web36205.mail.mud.yahoo.com via HTTP; Wed, 14 Dec 2005 18:46:58 PST Date: Wed, 14 Dec 2005 18:46:58 -0800 (PST) From: Rob To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Cc: martin@dc.cis.okstate.edu Subject: Re: Expect-5.32.1 and Hangups when Spawning a Shell X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 15 Dec 2005 02:46:59 -0000 Martin McCormick wrote: > Has anyone seen a condition in FreeBSD4.7 in which > expect-5.32.1 randomly hangs when spawning a shell? > > I got this idea from running autoexpect: > > spawn $env(SHELL) > > Then, I would look for the prompt and begin executing > commands. > > About every 20 or 30 times, no shell spawns and the script > just hangs there with 1 virtual terminal seized until someone kills > the process. Since the particular expect script is run automaticly, > one can run out of tty's in a few weeks if this happens often enough > or one doesn't clean house regularly. > > What I recently tried is to set conservative mode to 1 so it > will output data more slowly although I can't imagine how this really > helps. > > Strangely enough, it has been several days since I made the > change and I haven't had to zap one single expect script. > > Is that just coincidence or could the timing of the spawn > command actually matter? Remember, this is before the shell ever > starts. > > Here is what the beginning of the script now looks like: > > #!/usr/local/bin/expect -f > > if {$force_conservative} { > set send_slow {1 .1} > proc send {ignore arg} { > sleep .1 > exp_send -s -- $arg > } > } > > spawn $env(SHELL) > match_max 100000 > expect -exact "bash-2.05b# " > > When it fails, the prompt never appears. > > Any ideas as to why this occasionally happens or whether my > slow-down of the "typed" output should help is much appreciated. Ports has now a more recent expect (5.43.0), which I use on FreeBSD 4.11-RELEASE. I use expect to automatically spawn an ssh tunnel connection, which needs the password to be fed. No problems here. Maybe you could upgrade expect? And how about FreeBSD upgrade to 4.11, 5.3 or even 6.0? Rob. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Dec 15 02:50:34 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2B0D716A41F for ; Thu, 15 Dec 2005 02:50:34 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from hde@daden.net) Received: from mail.ruder.net (216-166-252-178.dsl.peknil.grics.net [216.166.252.178]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 467C843D70 for ; Thu, 15 Dec 2005 02:50:28 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from hde@daden.net) Received: from 12.203.202.40 ([12.203.202.40]) by mail.ruder.net ([192.168.10.10]) with Microsoft Exchange Server HTTP-DAV ; Thu, 15 Dec 2005 02:50:22 +0000 Received: from devilBSD.freeBSD by mail.daden.net; 14 Dec 2005 20:50:21 -0600 From: "Harley D. Eades III" To: Gary Kline In-Reply-To: <20051215021641.GA45523@thought.org> References: <20051215021641.GA45523@thought.org> Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Date: Wed, 14 Dec 2005 20:50:21 -0600 Message-Id: <1134615021.34653.26.camel@devilBSD.freeBSD> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.2.1.1 FreeBSD GNOME Team Port Cc: FreeBSD Mailing List Subject: Re: this AMD motherboard? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 15 Dec 2005 02:50:34 -0000 On Wed, 2005-12-14 at 18:16 -0800, Gary Kline wrote: > Can anyone tell if the graphics chips on this card will work > with X? > > If not, then does anybody have an idea of what kinds of cards > are better/worse? > > thanks in advance, > > gary > > > http://www.ecs.com.tw/ECSWeb/Products/ProductsDetail.aspx?DetailID=422&MenuID=24&LanID=9 > > Current Xorg is well equipt for newer video cards, I don't see you having any problems. But, I cannot be for sure since I have never used this mother-board before. -- -----BEGIN GEEK CODE BLOCK----- G: GCS-- d- a? C++++ B- E+++ W+++ N++ w--- X+++ b++ G e* r x+ z+++++ ------END GEEK CODE BLOCK------ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Dec 15 03:00:57 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 19A7A16A41F for ; Thu, 15 Dec 2005 03:00:57 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from kline@tao.thought.org) Received: from tao.thought.org (dsl231-043-140.sea1.dsl.speakeasy.net [216.231.43.140]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 90B6343D6D for ; Thu, 15 Dec 2005 03:00:46 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from kline@tao.thought.org) Received: from tao.thought.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by tao.thought.org (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id jBF30hH8045779; Wed, 14 Dec 2005 19:00:43 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from kline@tao.thought.org) Received: (from kline@localhost) by tao.thought.org (8.13.1/8.13.1/Submit) id jBF30hUH045778; Wed, 14 Dec 2005 19:00:43 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from kline) Date: Wed, 14 Dec 2005 19:00:42 -0800 From: Gary Kline To: Chuck Swiger Message-ID: <20051215030042.GA45655@thought.org> References: <20051214171014.GB37495@thought.org> <7088318B-3141-44E6-9F50-CB51F6CAE501@mac.com> <20051214211749.GJ41870@thought.org> <200512141342.22051.kstewart@owt.com> <20051215005519.GA44946@thought.org> <43A0C8ED.4090209@mac.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <43A0C8ED.4090209@mac.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i X-Organization: Thought Unlimited. Public service Unix since 1986. X-Of_Interest: Observing 19 years of service to the Unix community Cc: Gary Kline , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, Kent Stewart Subject: Re: fquestions X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 15 Dec 2005 03:00:57 -0000 On Wed, Dec 14, 2005 at 08:37:49PM -0500, Chuck Swiger wrote: > Gary Kline wrote: > > On Wed, Dec 14, 2005 at 01:42:21PM -0800, Kent Stewart wrote: > [ ... ] > > Does it make any sense to use O3 when compiling stuff, > > when stuff includes world/kernel/drivers? Does upping the > > optimization make any significant difference in system > > performance, in other words? Kent? Anybody? > > No. You are likely to vastly increase the amount of time it takes to compile > the system without gaining any performance that's noticable. The system > generally shouldn't be spending a lot of CPU in the kernel, anyway, compared > with the amount of time running user-mode code. (Firewalls and routers are a > significant exception, however.) Good to know, thanks. I have done a lot of tuning on my DNS server. When I upgrade, you've given me more to think about. > > If you want your system to perform better, benchmark the work it's actually > doing, and then tune from there. Spending lots of time to optimize a part of > the system that is already pretty efficient isn't going to do much, whereas > solving the bottleneck will make a useful difference. > For some reason, using Gnome sometimes brings my test server to a crawl. It's running Ubuntu and they say straight out that "Linux is just a kernel." Other than the kernel my test system has the same software as I've got here. Here, I run ctwm and everything's snappy. Are there any benchmark suite you'd recommend to see what's sucking up the most cycles? On every platform, not just my test box (old e-machines:). top is not very helpful. gary -- Gary Kline kline@thought.org www.thought.org Public service Unix From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Dec 15 03:29:54 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A03F116A41F for ; Thu, 15 Dec 2005 03:29:54 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from excalibur@icehouse.net) Received: from mail.icehouse.net (mail.icehouse.net [216.255.223.201]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5BFFE43D45 for ; Thu, 15 Dec 2005 03:29:54 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from excalibur@icehouse.net) Received: by mail.icehouse.net (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 9651A600C3; Wed, 14 Dec 2005 19:29:21 -0800 (PST) Received: from [216.255.214.89] (ppp-boise-66.icehouse.net [216.255.214.89]) by mail.icehouse.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 998FF60031 for ; Wed, 14 Dec 2005 19:29:20 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <43A0E32F.8080305@icehouse.net> Date: Wed, 14 Dec 2005 20:29:51 -0700 From: Andrew Falanga User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.2 (Windows/20050317) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Scrubber-ClamAV: clean MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: New to FreeBSD, need some questions answered X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 15 Dec 2005 03:29:54 -0000 Hi, I'm new to FreeBSD but not to UNIX. The guy who burned me the 6.0 release iso's told me that during the install, FreeBSD would detect my Windows XP drive but it didn't. I have two hard drives, one for FreeBSD one for Windows. The FreeBSD drive is SATA and the Windows is PATA (IDE, but I'm sure you all knew that). I've been reading through the Handbook, but I don't see in there how to configure the bootloader to boot Windows. I'd like very much to use the bootloader as I'm sick of going into CMOS every time and changing the "first" drive in the system so that I get the OS I want. Please help. I also need some help with getting X and KDE up and running, but I think I'll be able to work through those problems using the docs. If not, then I'll post. Also, the account I have with my ISP is such that I don't have but 5mb of space for e-mail. Therefore, I didn't join this mailing list. Please include my e-mail address in your replies. Thanks, Andy From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Dec 15 03:36:13 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E7B6316A41F for ; Thu, 15 Dec 2005 03:36:13 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from racerx@makeworld.com) Received: from makeworld.com (makeworld.com [216.201.118.142]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5C96843D53 for ; Thu, 15 Dec 2005 03:36:13 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from racerx@makeworld.com) Received: from localhost (localhost.com [127.0.0.1]) by makeworld.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 72B1962E5; Wed, 14 Dec 2005 21:36:12 -0600 (CST) Received: from makeworld.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (makeworld.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 72253-05; Wed, 14 Dec 2005 21:36:09 -0600 (CST) Received: by makeworld.com (Postfix, from userid 1008) id 62ED56208; Wed, 14 Dec 2005 21:36:09 -0600 (CST) Received: from [216.201.118.138] (racerx.makeworld.com [216.201.118.138]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by makeworld.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2392B60FE; Wed, 14 Dec 2005 21:36:09 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <43A0E4A9.6050106@makeworld.com> Date: Wed, 14 Dec 2005 21:36:09 -0600 From: Chris User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.7 (X11/20051204) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Andrew Falanga References: <43A0E32F.8080305@icehouse.net> In-Reply-To: <43A0E32F.8080305@icehouse.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new-2.3.3 (20050822) at makeworld.com - FreeBSD:The Power To Serve Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: New to FreeBSD, need some questions answered X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: RacerX@makeworld.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 15 Dec 2005 03:36:14 -0000 Andrew Falanga wrote: > Hi, > > I'm new to FreeBSD but not to UNIX. The guy who burned me the 6.0 > release iso's told me that during the install, FreeBSD would detect my > Windows XP drive but it didn't. I have two hard drives, one for FreeBSD > one for Windows. The FreeBSD drive is SATA and the Windows is PATA > (IDE, but I'm sure you all knew that). I've been reading through the > Handbook, but I don't see in there how to configure the bootloader to > boot Windows. I'd like very much to use the bootloader as I'm sick of > going into CMOS every time and changing the "first" drive in the system > so that I get the OS I want. Please help. http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/articles/multi-os/ -- Best regards, Chris Forgive and remember. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Dec 15 04:02:16 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9897416A41F for ; Thu, 15 Dec 2005 04:02:16 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) Received: from mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com (mail.web-strider.com [65.75.192.90]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 51ED343D53 for ; Thu, 15 Dec 2005 04:02:15 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) Received: from tedwin2k (nat-rtr.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [65.75.197.130]) by mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com (8.11.1/8.11.1) with SMTP id jBF44vb11359; Wed, 14 Dec 2005 20:04:58 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) From: "Ted Mittelstaedt" To: , "Drew Tomlinson" Date: Wed, 14 Dec 2005 20:01:43 -0800 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.6604 (9.0.2911.0) In-Reply-To: <20051214191332.42237.qmail@web33311.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1506 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: RE: Polling For 100 mbps Connections? (Was Re: Freebsd Theme Song) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 15 Dec 2005 04:02:16 -0000 >-----Original Message----- >From: Danial Thom [mailto:danial_thom@yahoo.com] >Sent: Wednesday, December 14, 2005 11:14 AM >To: Ted Mittelstaedt; Drew Tomlinson >Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org >Subject: RE: Polling For 100 mbps Connections? (Was Re: Freebsd Theme >Song) > >> Well, if polling does no good for fxp, due to >> the >> hardware doing controlled interrupts, then why >> does >> the fxp driver even let you set it as an >> option? >> And why have many people who have enabled it on >> fxp seen an improvement? > >They haven't, freebsd accounting doesn't work >properly with polling enabled, and "they" don't >have the ability to "know" if they are getting >better performance, because "they", like you, >have no clue what they're doing. How about all >the idiots running MP with FreeBSD 4.x, when we >know its just a waste of time? "they" all think >they're getting worthwhile performance, because >"they" are clueless. > I would call them idiots if they are running MP under FreeBSD and assuming that they are getting better performance without actually testing for it. But if they are just running MP because they happen to be using an MP server, and they want to see if it will work or not, who cares? >Maybe its tunable because they guy who wrote the >driver made it a tunable? duh. I've yet to see >one credible, controlled test that shows polling >vs properly tuned interrupt-driven. > Hm, OK I believe that. As I recall I asked you earlier to post the test setup you used for your own tests "proving" that polling is worse, and you haven't done so yet. Now you are saying you have never seen a credible controlled test that shows polling vs interrupt-driven. So I guess either you were blind when you ran your own tests, or your own tests are not credible, controlled polling vs properly tuned interrupt-driven. As I have been saying all along. Now your agreeing with me. >The only advantage of polling is that it will >drop packets instead of going into livelock. The >disadvantage is that it will drop packets when >you have momentary bursts that would harmlessly >put the machine into livelock. Thats about it. > Ah, now I think suddenly I see what the chip on your shoulder is. You would rather have your router based on FreeBSD go into livelock while packets stack up, than drop anything. You tested the polling code and found that yipes, it drops packets. What may I ask do you think that a Cisco or other router does when you shove 10Mbt of traffic into it's Ethernet interface destined for a host behind a T1 that is plugged into the other end? (and no, source-quench is not the correct answer) I think the scenario of it being better to momentary go into livelock during an overload is only applicable to one scenario, where the 2 interfaces in the router are the same capacity. As in ethernet-to-ethernet routers. Most certainly not Ethernet-to-serial routers, like what most routers are that aren't on DSL lines. If you have a different understanding then please explain. >> >> I've read those datasheets as well and the >> thing I >> don't understand is that if you are pumping >> 100Mbt >> into an Etherexpress Pro/100 then if the card >> will >> not interrupt more than this throttled rate you >> keep >> talking about, then the card's interrupt >> throttling >> is going to limit the inbound bandwidth to >> below >> 100Mbt. > >Wrong again, Ted. It scares me that you consider >yourself knowlegable about this. You can process >#interrupts X ring_size packets; not one per >interrupt. You're only polling 1000x per second >(or whatever you have hz set to), so why do you >think that you have to interrupt for every packet >to do 100Mb/s? I never said anything about interrupting for every packet, did I? Of course not since I know what your talking about. However, it is you who are throwing around the numbers - or were in your prior post - regarding the fxp driver and hardware. Why should I have to do the work digging around in the datasheets and doing the math? Since you seem to be wanting to argue this from a theory standpoint, then your only option is to do the math. Go ahead, look up the datasheet for the 82557. I'm sure it's online somewhere, and tell us what it says about throttled interrupts, and run your numbers. >Do you not understand that packet >processing is the same whether its done on a >clock tick or a hardware interrupt? Do you not >understand that a clock tick has more overhead >(because of other assigned tasks)? Do you not >understand that getting exactly 5000 hardware >interrupts is much more efficient than having >5000 clock tick interrupts per second? What part >of this don't you understand? > Well, one part I don't understand is why when one of those 5000 clock ticks happens and the fxp driver finds no packets to take off the card, that it takes the same amount of time for the driver to process as when the fxp driver finds packets to process. At least, that seems to be what your arguing. As I've stated before once, probably twice, polling is obviously less efficient at lower bandwidth. In interrupt driven mode, to get 5000 interrupts per second you are most likely going to be having a lot of traffic coming in, whereas you could get no traffic at all with polling mode in 5000 clock ticks. So clearly, the comparison is always stacked towards polling being only a competitor at high bandwidth. Why you insist on using scenarios as examples that are low bandwidth scenarios I cannot understand because nobody in this debate so far has claimed that polling is better at low bandwidth. I am as suspicious of testimonials as the next guy and it is quite true that so far everyone promoting polling in this thread has posted no test suites that are any better than yours - you basically are blowing air at each other. But there are a lot of others on the Internet that seem to think it works great. I gave you some openings to discredit them and you haven't taken them. I myself have never tried polling, so I am certainly not going to argue against a logical, reasoned explanation of why it's no good at high bandwidth. So far, however, you have not posted anything like this. And I am still waiting for the test suites you have used for your claim that the networking in 5.4 and later is worse, and I don't see why you want to diverge into this side issue on polling when the real issue is the alleged worse networking in the newer FreeBSD versions. Ted From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Dec 15 04:17:19 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D053316A41F for ; Thu, 15 Dec 2005 04:17:19 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from gaynw@bristolsystems.com) Received: from fed1rmmtao02.cox.net (fed1rmmtao02.cox.net [68.230.241.37]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0B38343D4C for ; Thu, 15 Dec 2005 04:17:18 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from gaynw@bristolsystems.com) Received: from workdog ([68.228.71.3]) by fed1rmmtao02.cox.net (InterMail vM.6.01.05.02 201-2131-123-102-20050715) with ESMTP id <20051215041555.MVZO17006.fed1rmmtao02.cox.net@workdog>; Wed, 14 Dec 2005 23:15:55 -0500 From: "Gayn Winters" To: "'Andrew Falanga'" , Date: Wed, 14 Dec 2005 20:17:02 -0800 Message-ID: <058901c6012e$66b18070$6501a8c0@workdog> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.4024 In-Reply-To: <43A0E32F.8080305@icehouse.net> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 Importance: Normal Cc: Subject: RE: New to FreeBSD, need some questions answered X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 15 Dec 2005 04:17:20 -0000 > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > [mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org] On Behalf Of > Andrew Falanga > Sent: Wednesday, December 14, 2005 7:30 PM > To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > Subject: New to FreeBSD, need some questions answered > > > Hi, > > I'm new to FreeBSD but not to UNIX. The guy who burned me the 6.0 > release iso's told me that during the install, FreeBSD would > detect my Windows XP drive but it didn't. I have two hard drives, one > for FreeBSD one for Windows. The FreeBSD drive is SATA and the Windows is PATA > (IDE, but I'm sure you all knew that). I've been reading through the > Handbook, but I don't see in there how to configure the bootloader to > boot Windows. I'd like very much to use the bootloader as > I'm sick of going into CMOS every time and changing the "first" drive in > the system so that I get the OS I want. Please help. You mean you got through the install and when you were asked on which slice you wanted to install FreeBSD you were only offered the choice of the SATA drive? If you have a working FreeBSD system, what does dmesg say? What does fdisk (from inside FreeBSD) say? They both only see the SATA drive? Boot the system from DOS and run DOS's fdisk; what does it say? If all the FreeBSD utilities can see the SATA but not the PATA drive, then I'd check the cable and the jumpers on the PATA drive. Be sure the jumper is NOT set to Cable Select. Once you can see both drives, just answer "yes" to installing the FreeBSD boot loader during installation. If you don't want to reinstall, read man boot0cfg. Welcome and good luck, -gayn Bristol Systems Inc. 714/532-6776 www.bristolsystems.com From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Dec 15 04:25:03 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 041B716A41F for ; Thu, 15 Dec 2005 04:25:03 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from bsdlists@sbcglobal.net) Received: from smtp109.sbc.mail.mud.yahoo.com (smtp109.sbc.mail.mud.yahoo.com [68.142.198.208]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 4614143D5E for ; Thu, 15 Dec 2005 04:25:02 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from bsdlists@sbcglobal.net) Received: (qmail 58689 invoked from network); 15 Dec 2005 03:00:41 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?127.0.0.1?) (calartstech@sbcglobal.net@68.127.38.82 with plain) by smtp109.sbc.mail.mud.yahoo.com with SMTP; 15 Dec 2005 03:00:41 -0000 Message-ID: <43A0DC5D.5000301@sbcglobal.net> Date: Wed, 14 Dec 2005 19:00:45 -0800 From: Jose Borquez User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.7 (Windows/20050923) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Odhiambo Washington References: <439FD9FC.6040101@sbcglobal.net> <20051214090125.GG35115@ns2.wananchi.com> In-Reply-To: <20051214090125.GG35115@ns2.wananchi.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Can't open Apache web page X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 15 Dec 2005 04:25:03 -0000 Odhiambo Washington wrote: >* On 14/12/05 00:38 -0800, Jose Borquez wrote: > > >>I have set up Apache and when I attempt to enter the ip address of the >>server I just get a Connecting to 172.16.1.10 and then it times out. >>What do I need to check to try and troubleshoot this problem? >>httpd is currently running. Here is the output of top: >>PID USERNAME PRI NICE SIZE RES STATE TIME WCPU CPU COMMAND >> 533 mysql 20 0 56640K 26280K kserel 0:02 0.00% 0.00% mysqld >> 492 jose 96 0 6116K 2964K select 0:00 0.00% 0.00% sshd >> 558 root 96 0 8808K 6548K select 0:00 0.00% 0.00% httpd >> 380 root 96 0 2900K 1732K select 0:00 0.00% 0.00% ntpd >> 552 root 20 0 2284K 1760K pause 0:00 0.00% 0.00% csh >> 169 root 8 0 1780K 1384K nanslp 0:00 0.00% 0.00% ipmon >> 400 root 96 0 3456K 2668K select 0:00 0.00% 0.00% sendmail >> 493 jose 20 0 2280K 1756K pause 0:00 0.00% 0.00% tcsh >> 489 root 4 0 6136K 2892K sbwait 0:00 0.00% 0.00% sshd >> 609 root 96 0 2312K 1580K RUN 0:00 0.00% 0.00% top >> 515 mysql 8 0 1664K 1264K wait 0:00 0.00% 0.00% sh >> 551 jose 8 0 1608K 1296K wait 0:00 0.00% 0.00% su >> 272 root 96 0 1324K 864K select 0:00 0.00% 0.00% syslogd >> 416 root 8 0 1364K 1052K nanslp 0:00 0.00% 0.00% cron >> 481 root 5 0 1288K 952K ttyin 0:00 0.00% 0.00% getty >> 482 root 5 0 1288K 952K ttyin 0:00 0.00% 0.00% getty >> 485 root 5 0 1288K 952K ttyin 0:00 0.00% 0.00% getty >> >>Thanks in advance, >>Jose >> >> > >Login to the box and do: > >telnet 172.16.1.10 80 >GET / > > > >If you get a semblance of a page, then check your firewall, although I >doubt you know what that would do to you ;) > > > >-Wash > >http://www.netmeister.org/news/learn2quote.html > >-- >+======================================================================+ > |\ _,,,---,,_ | Odhiambo Washington >Zzz /,`.-'`' -. ;-;;,_ | Wananchi Online Ltd. www.wananchi.com > |,4- ) )-,_. ,\ ( `'-'| Tel: +254 20 313985-9 +254 20 313922 > '---''(_/--' `-'\_) | GSM: +254 722 743223 +254 733 744121 >+======================================================================+ >The moon is a planet just like the Earth, only it is even deader. >_______________________________________________ >freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list >http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions >To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > > > It was my firewall configuration. Thanks! Jose From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Dec 15 04:52:50 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 69DC716A41F for ; Thu, 15 Dec 2005 04:52:50 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from hakmi@rogers.com) Received: from smtp101.rog.mail.re2.yahoo.com (smtp101.rog.mail.re2.yahoo.com [206.190.36.79]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id C993543D53 for ; Thu, 15 Dec 2005 04:52:49 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from hakmi@rogers.com) Received: (qmail 90746 invoked from network); 15 Dec 2005 04:52:49 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=rogers.com; h=Received:From:To:Subject:Date:X-Mailer:X-MimeOLE:In-Reply-To:Thread-Index; b=n2LwBRWzHewPl23y1eyqdKnLfzVWE7gFMHj9xqAu+7GbJg2FzircSiDQTYSHkThuusjFAVzQ1M6X7MosCjXhLQRk3xXGMu0B8fvNwFOfTL4SqYWhNtIZucqEteU+q9QYedpnrxXYb7u9OMz0jYIr9/zj960/oTXC+u3qqtGdDVI= ; Received: from unknown (HELO tamouh) (hakmi@rogers.com@70.27.160.99 with login) by smtp101.rog.mail.re2.yahoo.com with SMTP; 15 Dec 2005 04:52:49 -0000 From: "Tamouh H." To: "'FreeBSD'" Date: Wed, 14 Dec 2005 23:53:06 -0500 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook, Build 11.0.6353 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 In-Reply-To: Thread-Index: AcYBDvlH/XEWXEKvSpaV7BFZWNOXHwAI2cMA Message-Id: <20051215045249.C993543D53@mx1.FreeBSD.org> Subject: RE: Insecure Web App Hosting X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 15 Dec 2005 04:52:50 -0000 On 12/15/05, Mike Esquardez wrote: > > i have to install a server that will host a "test drive" of > a web app > > on the internet. from my inital look at the app, it looks > like it will > > be a target to be exploited. i am not involved with the > code so fixing > > it is not an option. what i would like to try and do is > host it in a > > manner where i can minimize the risk and damage. it will only have > > sample data and it doesnt have to be "live". some ideas i have- > > > > automate disk imaging or rsync. > > read only filesystem. > > integrity tool. > > live cd version of the app. > > > > any other ideas????? > If this Web App depends on Apache/PHP/mySQL then you'll need a module like mod_security for Apache and use rules from gotroot.com to secure against SQL injections...etc. I'd actually do the following: 1) Secure your Kernel 2) IPFW and close the server down except to services you need 3) run rkhunter as cron to scan against problems 4) run the mod_security for Apache and make sure your PHP/Apache processes are configured properly. 5) Lastly, do backups ;-) Tamouh From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Dec 15 05:21:33 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A420316A41F for ; Thu, 15 Dec 2005 05:21:33 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from neal@rigney.org) Received: from zinc.nocdirect.com (zinc.nocdirect.com [69.73.148.119]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 16E3F43D5F for ; Thu, 15 Dec 2005 05:21:32 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from neal@rigney.org) Received: from jrigney by zinc.nocdirect.com with local (Exim 4.52) id 1EmlYO-0002a9-1w for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Wed, 14 Dec 2005 23:21:20 -0600 From: "Neal Rigney" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailer: NeoMail 1.27 X-IPAddress: 66.69.222.164 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Message-Id: Date: Wed, 14 Dec 2005 23:21:20 -0600 X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - zinc.nocdirect.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - freebsd.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [32116 2045] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - rigney.org X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: Subject: graid3 lockups? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 15 Dec 2005 05:21:33 -0000 I've got a dual-proc machine with 3 ATA drives that I'd like to roll together in a graid3 configuration. 2 of the drives are 250G, and the third is 300G. I'm using the raw disk for the two 250G drives (ad4 and ad6) and the a partition (which is 250G) of the 300G disk (ad9). ad9 looks like this: # size offset fstype [fsize bsize bps/cpg] a: 488397168 16 4.2BSD 0 0 0 c: 586072368 0 unused 2048 16384 # "raw" part, don't edit d: 97675184 488397184 4.2BSD 2048 16384 28552 I need to transfer all the data from partition d on ad9 to the new raid3 volume. Creating the volume and newfs work fine. However, when I begin copying the files from ad9 into the raid3 volume, the system locks hard. Naturally the hard-lock isn't good, but I'm also cursious if my configuration is actually valid. Any ideas? -- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Dec 15 05:39:11 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AB2B216A41F for ; Thu, 15 Dec 2005 05:39:11 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from tuxgirl@gmail.com) Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.198]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3A9FE43D53 for ; Thu, 15 Dec 2005 05:39:11 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from tuxgirl@gmail.com) Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id i14so572979wra for ; Wed, 14 Dec 2005 21:39:10 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; b=EXE8kiRaXow8omvFXGAu5aG4tY/L+YYQSFrfsMJ9qbFrthsFMEfQPP8gcKlp7VNFPmo8k/SU83n6oHqBqMhfV3jLonLgCAzD5VRgL/SF/6pMWksDF9uMzOCMqRb7b0XX8WWKUIbQoykFLLAAvGy+F/N8nT9BjgPAzBNbEacFDHY= Received: by 10.65.160.11 with SMTP id m11mr904728qbo; Wed, 14 Dec 2005 21:39:10 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.65.194.11 with HTTP; Wed, 14 Dec 2005 21:39:10 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <6e4453640512142139y1768b426m5ca21b9a87cbc7ca@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 14 Dec 2005 22:39:10 -0700 From: TuxGirl To: questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline Cc: Subject: pkg_add not installing lsof (and other programs)? (newbie problem) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 15 Dec 2005 05:39:11 -0000 Hello, I installed FreeBSD for the first time tonight (I've been running Linux for a while), and I seem to be misunderstanding pkg_add. I'm following the instructions in the FreeBSD manual, and I ran: # pkg_add -r lsof It claimed to succeed: Fetching ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/ports/i386/packages-6.0-release/= Latest/lsof.tbz... Done then: # lsof lsof: Command not found. # echo $PATH /sbin:/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin:/usr/games:/usr/local/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/us= r/X11/R6/bin:/root/bin # uname -a FreeBSD .hsd1.ut.comcast.net. 6.0-RELEASE FreeBSD 6.0-RELEASE #0: Thu Nov 3 09:36:13 UTC 2005 =20 root@x64.samsco.home:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC i386 This is a brand new install. I did an install earlier this evening, but had this problem there, so I decided to try fresh and follow the manuals more closely. This is the first command I ran after logging into the box. I'd be happy to provide any additional information that could help. Thanks for the help. I would appreciate it greatly if you could please CC me on replies, as I'm not yet on this mailing list. Thanks, ~Erin From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Dec 15 05:47:50 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 928CD16A41F for ; Thu, 15 Dec 2005 05:47:50 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) Received: from smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (imap.infracaninophile.co.uk [81.187.76.162]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 87BDF43D5E for ; Thu, 15 Dec 2005 05:47:49 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) Received: from [IPv6:::1] (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id jBF5le6B025462; Thu, 15 Dec 2005 05:47:40 GMT (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) Message-ID: <43A1037C.2010407@infracaninophile.co.uk> Date: Thu, 15 Dec 2005 05:47:40 +0000 From: Matthew Seaman Organization: Infracaninophile User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.7 (X11/20051204) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: TuxGirl References: <6e4453640512142139y1768b426m5ca21b9a87cbc7ca@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <6e4453640512142139y1768b426m5ca21b9a87cbc7ca@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-2.0.2 (smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk [IPv6:::1]); Thu, 15 Dec 2005 05:47:40 +0000 (GMT) X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV 0.87.1/1209/Mon Dec 12 15:48:01 2005 on happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.5 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_00,NO_RELAYS autolearn=ham version=3.1.0 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.0 (2005-09-13) on happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: pkg_add not installing lsof (and other programs)? (newbie problem) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 15 Dec 2005 05:47:50 -0000 TuxGirl wrote: > then: > # lsof > lsof: Command not found. Type: rehash then try your lsof command again. You've just run into a "feature" of tcsh(1) -- it doesn't pick up changes to the executable files on $PATH automatically. Cheers, Matthew -- Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. 7 Priory Courtyard Flat 3 PGP: http://www.infracaninophile.co.uk/pgpkey Ramsgate Kent, CT11 9PW From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Dec 15 05:53:17 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0A79516A41F for ; Thu, 15 Dec 2005 05:53:17 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from dscheidt@panix.com) Received: from mail2.panix.com (mail2.panix.com [166.84.1.73]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 779E143D53 for ; Thu, 15 Dec 2005 05:53:16 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from dscheidt@panix.com) Received: from panix1.panix.com (panix1.panix.com [166.84.1.1]) by mail2.panix.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id AF9BB9D857; Thu, 15 Dec 2005 00:53:15 -0500 (EST) Received: (from dscheidt@localhost) by panix1.panix.com (8.11.6p3/8.8.8/PanixN1.1) id jBF5rGU02623; Thu, 15 Dec 2005 00:53:16 -0500 (EST) Date: Thu, 15 Dec 2005 00:53:16 -0500 From: David Scheidt To: TuxGirl Message-ID: <20051215055315.GA21685@panix.com> References: <6e4453640512142139y1768b426m5ca21b9a87cbc7ca@mail.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <6e4453640512142139y1768b426m5ca21b9a87cbc7ca@mail.gmail.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.10i Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: pkg_add not installing lsof (and other programs)? (newbie problem) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 15 Dec 2005 05:53:17 -0000 On Wed, Dec 14, 2005 at 10:39:10PM -0700, TuxGirl wrote: > Hello, > > I installed FreeBSD for the first time tonight (I've been running > Linux for a while), and I seem to be misunderstanding pkg_add. I'm > following the instructions in the FreeBSD manual, and I ran: > > # pkg_add -r lsof > > It claimed to succeed: > Fetching ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/ports/i386/packages-6.0-release/Latest/lsof.tbz... > Done > > then: > # lsof > lsof: Command not found. > > # echo $PATH > /sbin:/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin:/usr/games:/usr/local/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/X11/R6/bin:/root/bin > > # uname -a > FreeBSD .hsd1.ut.comcast.net. 6.0-RELEASE FreeBSD 6.0-RELEASE #0: Thu > Nov 3 09:36:13 UTC 2005 > root@x64.samsco.home:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC i386 > You can confirm that the package was installed by running the pkg_info command, which returns a list of all installed packages and ports. You can also look in /var/db/pkg, which is where the package database is kept. Assuming you've got it installed (which you should, pkg_add returns error messages...) you've run into a difference between the root shells in FreeBSD and Linux. The FreeBSD root user shell is tcsh. tcsh, unlike bash, scans the $PATH enviornmental variable at login to find everything, and builds a table in memory so it can quickly find and execute commands. If you install a program, the shell won't know about it. You can force it to rebuild the table by issuing the 'rehash' command. bash, on the other hand, builds its command hash table incrementally, as you execute commanads. So if you add new ones, they're found automatically. David DAvid From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Dec 15 05:59:56 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 09A4816A41F for ; Thu, 15 Dec 2005 05:59:56 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from tuxgirl@gmail.com) Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.207]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E1DC043D4C for ; Thu, 15 Dec 2005 05:59:54 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from tuxgirl@gmail.com) Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id i5so592739wra for ; Wed, 14 Dec 2005 21:59:54 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=l9B2joQWzccjD5oUJYE55LYn0SEJQ7XOdulx3Nc/BurSpMs04/RzJtjneoheRJoeJsRMv3BbIdeEDmeGpKB9MP5jeo0eyIEkp/cIlbKUIdkTULZNci//FWrImudYUmvzk+/8V+/hPfMJ99pkA5bWLrvBnnGTol0vAR9yy+3JKUM= Received: by 10.65.211.12 with SMTP id n12mr921899qbq; Wed, 14 Dec 2005 21:59:54 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.65.194.11 with HTTP; Wed, 14 Dec 2005 21:59:54 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <6e4453640512142159x52751ec8hc8d03dafe5191dba@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 14 Dec 2005 22:59:54 -0700 From: TuxGirl To: David Scheidt , Matthew Seaman In-Reply-To: <20051215055315.GA21685@panix.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline References: <6e4453640512142139y1768b426m5ca21b9a87cbc7ca@mail.gmail.com> <20051215055315.GA21685@panix.com> Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: pkg_add not installing lsof (and other programs)? (newbie problem) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 15 Dec 2005 05:59:56 -0000 > You can confirm that the package was installed by running the pkg_info > command, which returns a list of all installed packages and ports. > You can also look in /var/db/pkg, which is where the package database > is kept. Assuming you've got it installed (which you should, pkg_add > returns error messages...) you've run into a difference between the > root shells in FreeBSD and Linux. Cool! > The FreeBSD root user shell is tcsh. tcsh, unlike bash, scans the > $PATH enviornmental variable at login to find everything, and builds a > table in memory so it can quickly find and execute commands. If you > install a program, the shell won't know about it. You can force it to > rebuild the table by issuing the 'rehash' command. > Type: > > rehash Thanks to both of you. That worked! Is that in the handbook someplace that I missed? Also, if this is a question you get often, I apologize for asking it again. Thanks again! ~Erin From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Dec 15 06:09:00 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 65DA816A41F for ; Thu, 15 Dec 2005 06:09:00 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from mistry.7@osu.edu) Received: from mail.united-ware.com (am-productions.biz [69.61.164.22]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AC10A43D60 for ; Thu, 15 Dec 2005 06:08:59 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from mistry.7@osu.edu) Received: from [192.168.1.100] (am-productions.biz [69.61.164.22]) (authenticated bits=0) by mail.united-ware.com (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id jBF6Br2P034457 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5 bits=128 verify=NO); Thu, 15 Dec 2005 01:11:59 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from mistry.7@osu.edu) From: Anish Mistry To: Mike Esquardez Date: Thu, 15 Dec 2005 01:10:53 -0500 User-Agent: KMail/1.8.3 References: In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="nextPart1478177.B6pkB4bTl6"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=pgp-sha1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <200512150111.10835.mistry.7@osu.edu> X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.8 required=5.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,BAYES_50, MYFREEBSD3 autolearn=failed version=3.1.0 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.0 (2005-09-13) on mail.united-ware.com X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV 0.87/1209/Mon Dec 12 10:48:01 2005 on mail.united-ware.com X-Virus-Status: Clean Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Insecure Web App Hosting X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 15 Dec 2005 06:09:00 -0000 --nextPart1478177.B6pkB4bTl6 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline On Wednesday 14 December 2005 07:13 pm, Mike Esquardez wrote: > i have to install a server that will host a "test drive" of a web > app on the internet. from my inital look at the app, it looks like > it will be a target to be exploited. i am not involved with the > code so fixing it is not an option. what i would like to try and do > is host it in a manner where i can minimize the risk and damage. it > will only have sample data and it doesnt have to be "live". some > ideas i have- > > automate disk imaging or rsync. > read only filesystem. > integrity tool. > live cd version of the app. > > any other ideas????? > > its using apache/php/mysql and i have explained that it might not > be fully functional or might have to be offline for a small amount > of time each day. i have only just switched to freebsd so if any > one has any links to some docs or tools that would be helpful. > thankyou. > Mike 1) Setup a "jail" and make sure to set a high enough "securelevel" - Create a separate partition to run the jail and enable quotas 2) Setup suphp to run the php scripts as an unprivleged non-www user,=20 make sure to run php in safe_mode 3) Make sure the the database user (It's not using "root" right?) only=20 has privileges to access it's tables, and better yet restrict that to=20 the normal table operations (DELETE, UPDATE, SELECT, INSERT) if the=20 application isn't doing anything fancy. =2D-=20 Anish Mistry --nextPart1478177.B6pkB4bTl6 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.2 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQBDoQj+xqA5ziudZT0RAilFAJ9dXnPgiPeIZ0auaURcqnsvJG2ovwCdHw2W SvrM1Jlk68JpvcZWHTY8lJ8= =phzU -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --nextPart1478177.B6pkB4bTl6-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Dec 15 06:39:06 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 28C3916A41F for ; Thu, 15 Dec 2005 06:39:06 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from destroyingculture@netspace.net.au) Received: from mail.netspace.net.au (cumulus.netspace.net.au [203.10.110.72]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CC1B943D5E for ; Thu, 15 Dec 2005 06:39:04 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from destroyingculture@netspace.net.au) Received: from 220-253-112-184.VIC.netspace.net.au (220-253-112-184.VIC.netspace.net.au [220.253.112.184]) by mail.netspace.net.au (Postfix) with ESMTP id C4F677BB9A; Thu, 15 Dec 2005 17:38:57 +1100 (EST) Date: Thu, 15 Dec 2005 17:44:20 +1100 (EST) From: caleb X-X-Sender: caleb@nebuchadnezzar.my.domain To: Ted Mittelstaedt In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20051215173501.X3683@nebuchadnezzar.my.domain> References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: caleb , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, RW Subject: RE: pine X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 15 Dec 2005 06:39:06 -0000 Hi everyone, Thanks Gwen and Ted for your feedback. I am using an ADSL modem, basically a POTS network terminal. I am thinkng of switching ISP's, registering a domain and setting up my own mail server. The ISP I am using (according to thier 'technical support') does not use any encryption with the POP server and I am able to telnet into the SMTP server on port 25 and have my way with it. I have installed ipgrab so I can see for myself the information transmitted on rl0 and tun0. I also plan to try thunderbird (*sigh* I have to use X), to see if there is any difference between it's connection and pine's Thanks again, caleb. P.S - as for hollywood movies, 'Takedown' - enough said :) -- There is no spoon From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Dec 15 06:57:42 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EEE4416A41F for ; Thu, 15 Dec 2005 06:57:42 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from catherine.liao@gmail.com) Received: from xproxy.gmail.com (xproxy.gmail.com [66.249.82.204]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4793A43D46 for ; Thu, 15 Dec 2005 06:57:42 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from catherine.liao@gmail.com) Received: by xproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id t12so243220wxc for ; Wed, 14 Dec 2005 22:57:41 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; b=SiKaM5tfaAuAvmo4sP19UNO5GB/CN80rPVbCpnVz6IsW85W6Q1tmfhImWC/pE1VLV2fRFragDnYFv43ZOEitrSnPQQ+OZ/ebBXBcphqZAJ6kz9/NXg+oIeS0S4jmtaD9rO4EqCj+V2iJ5+87wom/TDFXJjFHeWTFUR4fRfCECd4= Received: by 10.70.20.10 with SMTP id 10mr1826810wxt; Wed, 14 Dec 2005 22:57:41 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.70.80.10 with HTTP; Wed, 14 Dec 2005 22:57:40 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <59a610290512142257u24206cfcw2cc0d2423400a7ca@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 14 Dec 2005 22:57:40 -0800 From: Catherine Liao To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline Subject: read -1 errno 35 Resource temporarily unavailable X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 15 Dec 2005 06:57:43 -0000 Greetings, I have encountered a problem on my FreeBSD that I cannot seem to=20 resolve. The problem started with my install of postfix/sendmail=20 reporting "postfix/sendmail[56108]: fatal: (1001): error=20 writing queue file: Broken pipe". Through ktrace, I was able to=20 identify the an EAGAIN error: read -1 errno 35 Resource temporarily=20 unavailable. The folks on the postfix suggested that I should do a=20 kernel upgrade, which I was able to complete (5.2 -> 5.4). However,=20 the EAGAIN problem with postfix/sendmail still hasn't gone away.=20 Further more, mutt is now having troubles. When opening mutt, it=20 hangs on opening the user's mailbox under /var/mail/. ktrace shows:=20 read -1 errno 35 Resource temporarily unavailable. I'm not sure what I should do next. Can you provide me with advise /=20 pointers on how to go about to do further troubleshooting or how to=20 resolve it? Thanks in advance, Catherine From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Dec 15 07:07:35 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ED3EE16A41F for ; Thu, 15 Dec 2005 07:07:35 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from bsdlists@sbcglobal.net) Received: from smtp114.sbc.mail.mud.yahoo.com (smtp114.sbc.mail.mud.yahoo.com [68.142.198.213]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 2D3CF43D6E for ; Thu, 15 Dec 2005 07:07:31 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from bsdlists@sbcglobal.net) Received: (qmail 80126 invoked from network); 15 Dec 2005 07:07:31 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?127.0.0.1?) (calartstech@sbcglobal.net@68.127.38.82 with plain) by smtp114.sbc.mail.mud.yahoo.com with SMTP; 15 Dec 2005 07:07:30 -0000 Message-ID: <43A11638.7030500@sbcglobal.net> Date: Wed, 14 Dec 2005 23:07:36 -0800 From: Jose Borquez User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.7 (Windows/20050923) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: FreeBSD Questions group Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: PHP MySQL extensions problem X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 15 Dec 2005 07:07:36 -0000 I am attempting to configure Group Office and every time I go to the site I get the following error: * Fatal error:* The required PHP MySQL extension is not installed.Please take a look at http://www.php.net for more information about installing this extension I did a pkg_info and it says I have php5-extensions-1.0 installed. I even uninstalled them and installed them again with no luck. I went to the php.net website, but found nothing on this problem. Could someone please give me any pointers as to what I can do to resolve this? Thank you in advance, Jose From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Dec 15 07:10:22 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7D86616A41F for ; Thu, 15 Dec 2005 07:10:22 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from rmeek@russellmeek.net) Received: from aries.russellmeek.net (24.154.202.68.cfl.res.rr.com [68.202.154.24]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D86A843D62 for ; Thu, 15 Dec 2005 07:10:21 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from rmeek@russellmeek.net) Received: (qmail 52447 invoked by uid 89); 15 Dec 2005 07:10:20 -0000 Received: by simscan 1.1.0 ppid: 51311, pid: 51767, t: 0.8639s scanners: attach: 1.1.0 clamav: 0.87.1/m:34/d:1200 spam: 3.1.0 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.0 (2005-09-13) on aries.russellmeek.net X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.4 required=7.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED autolearn=ham version=3.1.0 Received: from unknown (HELO ?192.172.1.125?) (rmeek@russellmeek.net@192.172.1.125) by aries.russellmeek.net with (DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA encrypted) SMTP; 15 Dec 2005 07:10:19 -0000 Message-ID: <43A116DB.8090608@russellmeek.net> Date: Thu, 15 Dec 2005 02:10:19 -0500 From: "Russell E. Meek" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.7 (Windows/20050923) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Pietro Cerutti , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Subject: Re: Completely disable sendmail X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 15 Dec 2005 07:10:22 -0000 Pietro Cerutti wrote: >Hi list, >before someone begins to flame me, I'll tell you that I'm running >6.0-STABLE and that my rc.conf contains: > >sendmail_enable="NO" >sendmail_submit_enable="NO" >sendmail_outbound_enable="NO" >sendmail_msp_queue_enable="NO" > >In my crontab there is a job which runs every hour, and prints one >line as output. >This output should be mailed to me, but since I disabled sendmail, I >guess it should get lost (which is what I'd want). >Anyway, lost or not, I don't want to have it mailed to me, nor I want >sendmail to bug my ttyv0 with such messages: > >sendmail[] My unqualified host name [] unknown. >Sleeping for retry >sendmail[] unable to qualify my own domain name () >-- using short name > >My box is not a part of a domain, so the errors are justified, but >this shows that sendmail is not completely disabled on my system... > >Now, I could solve this by redirecting the output of my job to >/dev/null, but I don't see it as a smart solution. > >Any ideas? > >Thanx! > >-- >Pietro Cerutti > > >Beansidhe - SwiSS Death / Thrash Metal > > >Windows: "Where do you want to go today?" >Linux: "Where do you want to go tomorrow?" >FreeBSD: "Are you guys coming or what?" >_______________________________________________ >freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list >http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions >To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > Pietro, *sendmail_enable="NONE"* in your rc.conf will shutdown Sendmail completely and globally. Thanks, Russell E, Meek From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Dec 15 07:23:03 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8E0B316A41F for ; Thu, 15 Dec 2005 07:23:03 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) Received: from smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk [81.187.76.162]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1691843D66 for ; Thu, 15 Dec 2005 07:22:59 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) Received: from [IPv6:::1] (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id jBF7Mmhq026031; Thu, 15 Dec 2005 07:22:48 GMT (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) Message-ID: <43A119C8.5060300@infracaninophile.co.uk> Date: Thu, 15 Dec 2005 07:22:48 +0000 From: Matthew Seaman Organization: Infracaninophile User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.7 (X11/20051204) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Jose Borquez References: <43A11638.7030500@sbcglobal.net> In-Reply-To: <43A11638.7030500@sbcglobal.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-2.0.2 (smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk [IPv6:::1]); Thu, 15 Dec 2005 07:22:48 +0000 (GMT) X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV 0.87.1/1209/Mon Dec 12 15:48:01 2005 on happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.5 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_00,NO_RELAYS autolearn=ham version=3.1.0 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.0 (2005-09-13) on happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk Cc: FreeBSD Questions group Subject: Re: PHP MySQL extensions problem X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 15 Dec 2005 07:23:03 -0000 Jose Borquez wrote: > Fatal error:* The required PHP MySQL extension is not installed.Please > take a look at http://www.php.net for more information about installing > this extension > > I did a pkg_info and it says I have php5-extensions-1.0 installed. I > even uninstalled them and installed them again with no luck. I went to > the php.net website, but found nothing on this problem. php5-extensions is designed for you to be able to choose amongst all of the available PHP extension modules. It doesn't install anything much itself but it depends on ports that do install the modules, depending on what you select in the Options screen. Options are sticky, and you only get asked to set them the first time you install a port that uses them. Run 'make config' for the port to change your initial selections. > Could someone please give me any pointers as to what I can do to resolve > this? Install the databases/php5-mysql port. Cheers, Matthew -- Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. 7 Priory Courtyard Flat 3 PGP: http://www.infracaninophile.co.uk/pgpkey Ramsgate Kent, CT11 9PW From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Dec 15 07:40:50 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A18A316A41F for ; Thu, 15 Dec 2005 07:40:50 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from tuxgirl@gmail.com) Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.196]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3CE2943D6A for ; Thu, 15 Dec 2005 07:40:42 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from tuxgirl@gmail.com) Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id i7so589397wra for ; Wed, 14 Dec 2005 23:40:40 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type; b=o+6NqD/tW/zxvf9Qe3nNN0INHgkHGNhytUGPqQa/UpplIibv9KWmcCjdq6dg7jkObVKDfUnawYZxEBL6A9kO4K8CXKJtpQZerdlFiF0ZwilV3b596QlSzhqIqAqbFKDB1uujGVM9SkDovb+mNkyV3NQ9wBkYBce0ZdP2m8caZ1c= Received: by 10.65.237.3 with SMTP id o3mr935397qbr; Wed, 14 Dec 2005 23:40:10 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.65.194.11 with HTTP; Wed, 14 Dec 2005 23:40:10 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <6e4453640512142340m11dd1c8cu9c3ce2f1be59b1d1@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 15 Dec 2005 00:40:10 -0700 From: TuxGirl To: questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----=_Part_3375_24798092.1134632410407" Cc: Subject: TouchPoint on IBM Thinkpad works in console but not X X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 15 Dec 2005 07:40:50 -0000 ------=_Part_3375_24798092.1134632410407 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline Hi, When I'm in the console, my mouse works great --- no problems whatsoever. However, once I start X, if I just touch the touchpoint once, the mouse runs off and hides in the upper right corner and refuses to come out. I'm sure that this is something with my xorg.conf, but I can't seem to find it anywhere, and I'm quite stumped at this point. I haven't been able to find anything about this in a quick check of google, so I was wondering if anyone here has any ideas. I started working from an xorg.conf that I was using on this machine on Linux, and I've been slowly modifying it to resolve the inconsistencies between Linux and FreeBSD. In the process of debugging, I've switched off all the X modules and switched my driver from radeon to ati (at least in Linux, ati generallly worked a bit easier, although radeon supported more of the nice features). I think I've got most of the unnecessary features commented out, and it's still doing the same thing. Here's the uncommented sections that define the mouse: Section "InputDevice" Identifier "Configured Mouse" Driver "mouse" Option "Device" "/dev/sysmouse" Option "Protocol" "PS/2" EndSection I'm including the full xorg.conf as an attachment in case that will help. Thanks for all the help. I'd appreciate being CC'd in the replies, as I'm not on the list. 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(calartstech@sbcglobal.net@68.127.38.82 with plain) by smtp108.sbc.mail.mud.yahoo.com with SMTP; 15 Dec 2005 07:49:00 -0000 Message-ID: <43A11FF0.8060206@sbcglobal.net> Date: Wed, 14 Dec 2005 23:49:04 -0800 From: Jose Borquez User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.7 (Windows/20050923) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Matthew Seaman References: <43A11638.7030500@sbcglobal.net> <43A119C8.5060300@infracaninophile.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <43A119C8.5060300@infracaninophile.co.uk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: FreeBSD Questions group Subject: Re: PHP MySQL extensions problem X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 15 Dec 2005 07:49:01 -0000 Matthew Seaman wrote: > Jose Borquez wrote: > >> Fatal error:* The required PHP MySQL extension is not >> installed.Please take a look at http://www.php.net for more >> information about installing this extension >> >> I did a pkg_info and it says I have php5-extensions-1.0 installed. I >> even uninstalled them and installed them again with no luck. I went >> to the php.net website, but found nothing on this problem. > > > php5-extensions is designed for you to be able to choose amongst all of > the available PHP extension modules. It doesn't install anything much > itself but it depends on ports that do install the modules, depending on > what you select in the Options screen. > > Options are sticky, and you only get asked to set them the first time you > install a port that uses them. Run 'make config' for the port to change > your initial selections. > >> Could someone please give me any pointers as to what I can do to >> resolve this? > > > Install the databases/php5-mysql port. > > Cheers, > > Matthew > OK, it looks like I am one step closer. I installed php5-mysql and it solved the previous problem. Then I kept getting: "Group-Office.php is writable please chmod 755 Group-Office.php and change the ownership to any other user then the webserver user" I did a chmod 755 Group-Office.php and changed ownership to root (I didn't know who to give ownership to) and after I did that all I get now is a blank screen on my browser. What can I try next? Could it still be a permissions issue on a directory? Thanks in advance, Jose From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Dec 15 08:30:10 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 01B4116A41F for ; Thu, 15 Dec 2005 08:30:10 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from pietro.cerutti@gmail.com) Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.202]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0EF4B43D60 for ; Thu, 15 Dec 2005 08:30:08 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from pietro.cerutti@gmail.com) Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 69so573442wri for ; Thu, 15 Dec 2005 00:30:08 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=cnaMpZ+pnicoOaiP6HIlGRgAnDhhdRzq0MwjKfz5NCxh1YnxYrLFhcugzUE+ADx7tEG8K3Oa2oD74fVhWqpzw8zW697mqwUv0yt757iY5eI5JyoYujT2YaawqcW/trd5AV6iWHPoBsau+3HenHYBNAawI2M0YG+XynpIWyWfvgo= Received: by 10.64.242.14 with SMTP id p14mr136389qbh; Thu, 15 Dec 2005 00:30:07 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.64.150.18 with HTTP; Thu, 15 Dec 2005 00:30:07 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: Date: Thu, 15 Dec 2005 09:30:07 +0100 From: Pietro Cerutti To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <43A116DB.8090608@russellmeek.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline References: <43A116DB.8090608@russellmeek.net> Subject: Re: Completely disable sendmail X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 15 Dec 2005 08:30:10 -0000 On 12/15/05, Russell E. Meek wrote: > Pietro, > > *sendmail_enable=3D"NONE"* in your rc.conf will shutdown Sendmail > completely and globally. > Same thing with "NONE" instead of "NO", moreover `man sendmail.rc` says sendmail_enable (str) If set to ``YES'', run the sendmail(8) daemon at system boot time. If set to ``NO'', do not run a sendmail(8) daemon = to listen for incoming network mail. This does not preclude a sendmail(8) daemon listening on the SMTP port of the loopback interface. The ``NONE'' option is deprecated and should not b= e used. It will be removed in a future release. > > Russell E, Meek > Thanx, Any other ideas? -- Pietro Cerutti Beansidhe - SwiSS Death / Thrash Metal Windows: "Where do you want to go today?" Linux: "Where do you want to go tomorrow?" FreeBSD: "Are you guys coming or what?" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Dec 15 08:33:40 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9D34016A41F for ; Thu, 15 Dec 2005 08:33:40 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from norgaard@locolomo.org) Received: from strange.daemonsecurity.com (59.Red-81-33-11.staticIP.rima-tde.net [81.33.11.59]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1FE4143D60 for ; Thu, 15 Dec 2005 08:33:39 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from norgaard@locolomo.org) Received: from [172.24.8.84] (generic.ATOSORIGIN.ES [212.170.156.200]) by strange.daemonsecurity.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 38FF32E307; Thu, 15 Dec 2005 09:33:37 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <43A12A5B.5020707@locolomo.org> Date: Thu, 15 Dec 2005 09:33:31 +0100 From: Erik Norgaard User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.7 (X11/20051214) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Erik Norgaard References: <439FDA99.1030500@locolomo.org> In-Reply-To: <439FDA99.1030500@locolomo.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: [solved]: Locale problems with perl X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 15 Dec 2005 08:33:40 -0000 Erik Norgaard wrote: > perl: warning: Please check that your locale settings: > LC_ALL = (unset), > LANG = "en_GB.ISO_8859-1" > are supported and installed on your system. > > In login.conf I have: > > en_GB:English users:\ > :charset=iso-8859-1:\ > :lang=en_GB.ISO8859-1:\ > :tc=default: Reading above again, there is an underscore in en_GB.ISO_8859-1, in my .bash_profile, for some reason I overrode a perfectly good LANG setting with this one - doh! Now I just how I got away without noticing this for so long... (no, that's not a question for the list :) I appologize for the inconvenience... Erik -- Ph: +34.666334818 web: www.locolomo.org S/MIME Certificate: www.daemonsecurity.com/ca/8D03551FFCE04F06.crt Subject ID: 9E:AA:18:E6:94:7A:91:44:0A:E4:DD:87:73:7F:4E:82:E7:08:9C:72 Fingerprint: 5B:D5:1E:3E:47:E7:EC:1C:4C:C8:3A:19:CC:AE:14:F5:DF:18:0F:B9 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Dec 15 08:33:57 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DBDF416A446 for ; Thu, 15 Dec 2005 08:33:57 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from sasa@stupar.homelinux.net) Received: from avs4.arnes.si (avs4.arnes.si [193.2.1.77]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F1FB143D5A for ; Thu, 15 Dec 2005 08:33:56 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from sasa@stupar.homelinux.net) Received: from localhost (avs4.arnes.si [193.2.1.77]) by avs4.arnes.si (Postfix) with ESMTP id EFDC92C3536; Thu, 15 Dec 2005 09:33:55 +0100 (CET) Received: from avs4.arnes.si ([193.2.1.77]) by localhost (avs4.arnes.si [193.2.1.77]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 38941-03; Thu, 15 Dec 2005 09:33:55 +0100 (CET) Received: from xmail.homelinux.net (cmb16-74.dial-up.arnes.si [194.249.51.74]) by avs4.arnes.si (Postfix) with ESMTP id D7E312C359D; Thu, 15 Dec 2005 09:33:39 +0100 (CET) Received: from [192.168.10.249] (master.workgroup [192.168.10.249]) (authenticated bits=0) by xmail.homelinux.net (8.13.5/8.13.3) with ESMTP id jBF8Xchf030713; Thu, 15 Dec 2005 09:33:38 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from sasa@stupar.homelinux.net) Date: Thu, 15 Dec 2005 09:33:43 +0100 From: Sasa Stupar To: Ted Mittelstaedt , danial_thom@yahoo.com, Drew Tomlinson Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: X-Mailer: Mulberry/3.1.6 (Win32) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV version 0.87.1, clamav-milter version 0.87 on mig29.workgroup X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at arnes.si Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: RE: Polling For 100 mbps Connections? (Was Re: Freebsd Theme Song) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 15 Dec 2005 08:33:58 -0000 --On 14. december 2005 20:01 -0800 Ted Mittelstaedt wrote: > > >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Danial Thom [mailto:danial_thom@yahoo.com] >> Sent: Wednesday, December 14, 2005 11:14 AM >> To: Ted Mittelstaedt; Drew Tomlinson >> Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org >> Subject: RE: Polling For 100 mbps Connections? (Was Re: Freebsd Theme >> Song) >> > >>> Well, if polling does no good for fxp, due to >>> the >>> hardware doing controlled interrupts, then why >>> does >>> the fxp driver even let you set it as an >>> option? >>> And why have many people who have enabled it on >>> fxp seen an improvement? >> >> They haven't, freebsd accounting doesn't work >> properly with polling enabled, and "they" don't >> have the ability to "know" if they are getting >> better performance, because "they", like you, >> have no clue what they're doing. How about all >> the idiots running MP with FreeBSD 4.x, when we >> know its just a waste of time? "they" all think >> they're getting worthwhile performance, because >> "they" are clueless. >> > > I would call them idiots if they are running MP under > FreeBSD and assuming that they are getting better > performance without actually testing for it. But > if they are just running MP because they happen to be > using an MP server, and they want to see if it will > work or not, who cares? > >> Maybe its tunable because they guy who wrote the >> driver made it a tunable? duh. I've yet to see >> one credible, controlled test that shows polling >> vs properly tuned interrupt-driven. >> > > Hm, OK I believe that. As I recall I asked you earlier to > post the test setup you used for your own tests > "proving" that polling is worse, and you haven't > done so yet. Now you are saying you have never seen > a credible controlled test that shows polling vs > interrupt-driven. So I guess either you were blind > when you ran your own tests, or your own tests > are not credible, controlled polling vs properly > tuned interrupt-driven. As I have been saying > all along. Now your agreeing with me. > >> The only advantage of polling is that it will >> drop packets instead of going into livelock. The >> disadvantage is that it will drop packets when >> you have momentary bursts that would harmlessly >> put the machine into livelock. Thats about it. >> > > Ah, now I think suddenly I see what the chip on your > shoulder is. You would rather have your router based > on FreeBSD go into livelock while packets stack up, > than drop anything. You tested the polling code and found > that yipes, it drops packets. > > What may I ask do you think that a Cisco or other > router does when you shove 10Mbt of traffic into it's > Ethernet interface destined for a host behind a T1 that > is plugged into the other end? (and no, source-quench > is not the correct answer) > > I think the scenario of it being better to momentary go into > livelock during an overload is only applicable to one scenario, > where the 2 interfaces in the router are the same capacity. > As in ethernet-to-ethernet routers. Most certainly not > Ethernet-to-serial routers, like what most routers are > that aren't on DSL lines. > > If you have a different understanding then please explain. > >>> >>> I've read those datasheets as well and the >>> thing I >>> don't understand is that if you are pumping >>> 100Mbt >>> into an Etherexpress Pro/100 then if the card >>> will >>> not interrupt more than this throttled rate you >>> keep >>> talking about, then the card's interrupt >>> throttling >>> is going to limit the inbound bandwidth to >>> below >>> 100Mbt. >> >> Wrong again, Ted. It scares me that you consider >> yourself knowlegable about this. You can process >># interrupts X ring_size packets; not one per >> interrupt. You're only polling 1000x per second >> (or whatever you have hz set to), so why do you >> think that you have to interrupt for every packet >> to do 100Mb/s? > > I never said anything about interrupting for every > packet, did I? Of course not since I know what > your talking about. However, it is you who are throwing > around the numbers - or were in your prior post - > regarding the fxp driver and hardware. Why should > I have to do the work digging around in the datasheets > and doing the math? > > Since you seem to be wanting to argue this from a > theory standpoint, then your only option is to do the > math. Go ahead, look up the datasheet for the 82557. > I'm sure it's online somewhere, and tell us what it says > about throttled interrupts, and run your numbers. > >> Do you not understand that packet >> processing is the same whether its done on a >> clock tick or a hardware interrupt? Do you not >> understand that a clock tick has more overhead >> (because of other assigned tasks)? Do you not >> understand that getting exactly 5000 hardware >> interrupts is much more efficient than having >> 5000 clock tick interrupts per second? What part >> of this don't you understand? >> > > Well, one part I don't understand is why when > one of those 5000 clock ticks happens and the fxp driver > finds no packets to take off the card, that it takes > the same amount of time for the driver to process > as when the fxp driver finds packets to process. > At least, that seems to be what your arguing. > > As I've stated before once, probably twice, polling > is obviously less efficient at lower bandwidth. In interrupt > driven mode, to get 5000 interrupts per second you are most > likely going to be having a lot of traffic coming in, > whereas you could get no traffic at all with polling mode > in 5000 clock ticks. So clearly, the comparison is always > stacked towards polling being only a competitor at high bandwidth. > Why you insist on using scenarios as examples that are low > bandwidth scenarios I cannot understand because nobody > in this debate so far has claimed that polling is better > at low bandwidth. > > I am as suspicious of testimonials as the next guy and > it is quite true that so far everyone promoting polling > in this thread has posted no test suites that are any better > than yours - you basically are blowing air at each other. > But there are a lot of others on the Internet that seem to > think it works great. I gave you some openings to > discredit them and you haven't taken them. > > I myself have never tried polling, so I > am certainly not going to argue against a logical, reasoned > explanation of why it's no good at high bandwidth. So > far, however, you have not posted anything like this. And > I am still waiting for the test suites you have used for > your claim that the networking in 5.4 and later is worse, > and I don't see why you want to diverge into this side issue > on polling when the real issue is the alleged worse networking > in the newer FreeBSD versions. > > Ted Hmmm, here is test with iperf what I have done with and without polling: ************** ------------------------------------------------------------ Client connecting to 192.168.1.200, TCP port 5001 TCP window size: 8.00 KByte (default) ------------------------------------------------------------ [1816] local 192.168.10.249 port 1088 connected with 192.168.1.200 port 5001 [ ID] Interval Transfer Bandwidth [1816] 0.0-10.0 sec 108 MBytes 90.1 Mbits/sec This is when I use Device polling option on m0n0. If I disable this option then my transfer is worse: ------------------------------------------------------------ Client connecting to 192.168.1.200, TCP port 5001 TCP window size: 8.00 KByte (default) ------------------------------------------------------------ [1816] local 192.168.10.249 port 1086 connected with 192.168.1.200 port 5001 [ ID] Interval Transfer Bandwidth [1816] 0.0-10.0 sec 69.7 MBytes 58.4 Mbits/sec *************** BTW: my router is m0n0wall (FBSD 4.11). -- Sasa Stupar From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Dec 15 08:38:46 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3957A16A41F for ; Thu, 15 Dec 2005 08:38:46 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from pietro.cerutti@gmail.com) Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.196]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 715ED43D5F for ; Thu, 15 Dec 2005 08:38:45 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from pietro.cerutti@gmail.com) Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id i21so297756wra for ; Thu, 15 Dec 2005 00:38:44 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=iL2oz+UcQGHkhR8t6HBYzlhSE+wblbMu/cPqzI+PYBccS3bog7sWClozs/JHbEqxT/Mxha5/30LqtYJKtB74kDib+Be9XmFa8wm/icWjKp/d9o29VQ0s68EG/JEy1Rsdc5P1ePSuZLv2ArYEoc+5IP0Ux7osQFjcFZtfwZva7Tc= Received: by 10.65.206.11 with SMTP id i11mr944320qbq; Thu, 15 Dec 2005 00:38:44 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.64.150.18 with HTTP; Thu, 15 Dec 2005 00:38:44 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: Date: Thu, 15 Dec 2005 09:38:44 +0100 From: Pietro Cerutti To: FreeBSD In-Reply-To: <6e4453640512142340m11dd1c8cu9c3ce2f1be59b1d1@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline References: <6e4453640512142340m11dd1c8cu9c3ce2f1be59b1d1@mail.gmail.com> Cc: tuxgirl@gmail.com Subject: Re: TouchPoint on IBM Thinkpad works in console but not X X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 15 Dec 2005 08:38:46 -0000 On 12/15/05, TuxGirl wrote: > Hi, Hi! > > When I'm in the console, my mouse works great --- no problems > whatsoever. However, once I start X, if I just touch the touchpoint > once, the mouse runs off and hides in the upper right corner and > refuses to come out. > > I'm sure that this is something with my xorg.conf, but I can't seem to > find it anywhere, and I'm quite stumped at this point. > > I haven't been able to find anything about this in a quick check of > google, so I was wondering if anyone here has any ideas. I started > working from an xorg.conf that I was using on this machine on Linux, > and I've been slowly modifying it to resolve the inconsistencies > between Linux and FreeBSD. > > In the process of debugging, I've switched off all the X modules and > switched my driver from radeon to ati (at least in Linux, ati > generallly worked a bit easier, although radeon supported more of the > nice features). I think I've got most of the unnecessary features > commented out, and it's still doing the same thing. Here's the > uncommented sections that define the mouse: > > Section "InputDevice" > Identifier "Configured Mouse" > Driver "mouse" > Option "Device" "/dev/sysmouse" > Option "Protocol" "PS/2" > EndSection > > I'm including the full xorg.conf as an attachment in case that will help. > Try modifing with these lines... option "Device" "/dev/psm0" option "Protocol" "auto" > > Thanks, > ~Erin -- Pietro Cerutti Beansidhe - SwiSS Death / Thrash Metal Windows: "Where do you want to go today?" Linux: "Where do you want to go tomorrow?" FreeBSD: "Are you guys coming or what?" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Dec 15 08:41:26 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F152816A454 for ; Thu, 15 Dec 2005 08:41:25 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from norgaard@locolomo.org) Received: from strange.daemonsecurity.com (59.Red-81-33-11.staticIP.rima-tde.net [81.33.11.59]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9ADBF43D75 for ; Thu, 15 Dec 2005 08:41:24 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from norgaard@locolomo.org) Received: from [172.24.8.84] (generic.ATOSORIGIN.ES [212.170.156.200]) by strange.daemonsecurity.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 860352E307; Thu, 15 Dec 2005 09:41:23 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <43A12C32.70801@locolomo.org> Date: Thu, 15 Dec 2005 09:41:22 +0100 From: Erik Norgaard User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.7 (X11/20051214) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Andrew Falanga References: <43A0E32F.8080305@icehouse.net> In-Reply-To: <43A0E32F.8080305@icehouse.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Multiboot SATA/PATA (changed subject) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 15 Dec 2005 08:41:27 -0000 Andrew Falanga wrote: > I'm new to FreeBSD but not to UNIX. The guy who burned me the 6.0 > release iso's told me that during the install, FreeBSD would detect my > Windows XP drive but it didn't. I have two hard drives, one for FreeBSD > one for Windows. The FreeBSD drive is SATA and the Windows is PATA > (IDE, but I'm sure you all knew that). I have the same or similar problem, only that both my hard drives are SATA: (dmesg) ad4: 38146MB at ata2-master SATA150 ad5: 38146MB at ata2-slave SATA150 Trying to mount root from ufs:/dev/ad4s1a The boot loader gives me two options F1 FreeBSD and F5 Unknown but chosing either will boot FreeBSD? Cheers, Erik -- Ph: +34.666334818 web: www.locolomo.org S/MIME Certificate: www.daemonsecurity.com/ca/8D03551FFCE04F06.crt Subject ID: 9E:AA:18:E6:94:7A:91:44:0A:E4:DD:87:73:7F:4E:82:E7:08:9C:72 Fingerprint: 5B:D5:1E:3E:47:E7:EC:1C:4C:C8:3A:19:CC:AE:14:F5:DF:18:0F:B9 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Dec 15 08:56:41 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E37EA16A41F for ; Thu, 15 Dec 2005 08:56:41 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from tuxgirl@gmail.com) Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.194]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6BC5C43D4C for ; Thu, 15 Dec 2005 08:56:41 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from tuxgirl@gmail.com) Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id i11so327911nzh for ; Thu, 15 Dec 2005 00:56:41 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=DrUdNx0eGjDLls2uqHNn1r4NqvrHhJiu2hB8gv6XpmWyzh2uTXniHjpoVoK+Yx1TRipthXbrBzZt8EJiCVP/N3+ICtr/jsifEIfx7bm4+pwFvaEm31835R/kWySXYhKOrpbuaguDlRrT1JNT+DZwk45qAqssg72xYC0wNSvJLQA= Received: by 10.65.119.13 with SMTP id w13mr956752qbm; Thu, 15 Dec 2005 00:56:40 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.65.194.11 with HTTP; Thu, 15 Dec 2005 00:56:40 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <6e4453640512150056p37bed48aga9d338eeb16bb925@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 15 Dec 2005 01:56:40 -0700 From: TuxGirl To: Pietro Cerutti , questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline References: <6e4453640512142340m11dd1c8cu9c3ce2f1be59b1d1@mail.gmail.com> Cc: Subject: Re: TouchPoint on IBM Thinkpad works in console but not X X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 15 Dec 2005 08:56:42 -0000 Pietro, > Try modifing with these lines... > > option "Device" "/dev/psm0" > option "Protocol" "auto" I tried this, and it gave the following errors: (EE) xf86OpenSerial: Cannot open device /dev/psm0 Device busy. (EE) Configured Mouse: cannot open input device (EE) PreInit failed for input device "Configured Mouse" No core pointer Fatal server error: failed to initialize core devices lower down: X connection to :0.0 broken (explicit kill or server shutdown). xauth: (argv):1: bad display name ".hsd1.ut.comcast.net.:0" in "remove" com= mand Wild guess here, but I'm thinking it might not be able to use it since it's being used in the console. I don't actually use the mouse in the console, though, so if there's a way to stop using it there, and just use it in X, I'd be happy to do that. I'm not sure how I would go about doing that, though. I could be off on the wrong track, though. Any ideas? Thanks, ~Erin From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Dec 15 09:04:31 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0F6F816A41F for ; Thu, 15 Dec 2005 09:04:31 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from pietro.cerutti@gmail.com) Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.202]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8AD8F43D5C for ; Thu, 15 Dec 2005 09:04:30 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from pietro.cerutti@gmail.com) Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 12so348709nzp for ; Thu, 15 Dec 2005 01:04:30 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=P13BV+f9nDQuQAOkSiQ/sB3+nTE4V4oW4gYYNnoAUUJ6VPWHe+AIhbGM07OsnAeWEFacdrlsCzsjL7h99oB5TiUuK8ib/GmSXdbT2MGS47EwyDFIohNVPkZfI5WZz/IdR/np/RTK8zb3YynA6MFiB/qfAvZswZwE9CEZ7W+Dqfk= Received: by 10.65.35.10 with SMTP id n10mr951078qbj; Thu, 15 Dec 2005 01:04:30 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.64.150.18 with HTTP; Thu, 15 Dec 2005 01:04:29 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: Date: Thu, 15 Dec 2005 10:04:29 +0100 From: Pietro Cerutti To: questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <6e4453640512150056p37bed48aga9d338eeb16bb925@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline References: <6e4453640512142340m11dd1c8cu9c3ce2f1be59b1d1@mail.gmail.com> <6e4453640512150056p37bed48aga9d338eeb16bb925@mail.gmail.com> Cc: TuxGirl Subject: Re: TouchPoint on IBM Thinkpad works in console but not X X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 15 Dec 2005 09:04:31 -0000 On 12/15/05, TuxGirl wrote: > Wild guess here, but I'm thinking it might not be able to use it since > it's being used in the console. Yes, this is the problem > I don't actually use the mouse in > the console, though, so if there's a way to stop using it there, and > just use it in X, I'd be happy to do that. I'm not sure how I would > go about doing that, though. add the line moused_enable=3D"NO" in your /etc/rc.conf > Thanks, > ~Erin > Regards, -- Pietro Cerutti Beansidhe - SwiSS Death / Thrash Metal Windows: "Where do you want to go today?" Linux: "Where do you want to go tomorrow?" FreeBSD: "Are you guys coming or what?" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Dec 15 09:06:29 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9F6B916A41F for ; Thu, 15 Dec 2005 09:06:29 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from chad@shire.net) Received: from hobbiton.shire.net (mail.shire.net [166.70.252.250]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4F14143D5E for ; Thu, 15 Dec 2005 09:06:29 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from chad@shire.net) Received: from [67.161.222.227] (helo=[192.168.99.68]) by hobbiton.shire.net with esmtpa (Exim 4.51) id 1Emp4G-00033X-1w; Thu, 15 Dec 2005 02:06:28 -0700 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v746.2) In-Reply-To: <200512150111.10835.mistry.7@osu.edu> References: <200512150111.10835.mistry.7@osu.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: <14EE21D2-DBAC-4E5A-AE29-F584E6A42F05@shire.net> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: "Chad Leigh -- Shire.Net LLC" Date: Thu, 15 Dec 2005 02:06:27 -0700 To: Anish Mistry , Free BSD Questions list X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.746.2) X-SA-Exim-Connect-IP: 67.161.222.227 X-SA-Exim-Mail-From: chad@shire.net X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No (on hobbiton.shire.net); SAEximRunCond expanded to false Cc: Subject: Re: Insecure Web App Hosting X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 15 Dec 2005 09:06:29 -0000 On Dec 14, 2005, at 11:10 PM, Anish Mistry wrote: > On Wednesday 14 December 2005 07:13 pm, Mike Esquardez wrote: >> i have to install a server that will host a "test drive" of a web >> app on the internet. from my inital look at the app, it looks like >> it will be a target to be exploited. i am not involved with the >> code so fixing it is not an option. what i would like to try and do >> is host it in a manner where i can minimize the risk and damage. it >> will only have sample data and it doesnt have to be "live". some >> ideas i have- >> >> automate disk imaging or rsync. >> read only filesystem. >> integrity tool. >> live cd version of the app. >> >> any other ideas????? >> >> its using apache/php/mysql and i have explained that it might not >> be fully functional or might have to be offline for a small amount >> of time each day. i have only just switched to freebsd so if any >> one has any links to some docs or tools that would be helpful. >> thankyou. >> Mike > 1) Setup a "jail" and make sure to set a high enough "securelevel" Also, you can set up your jail so that the "system" parts of the jail filesystem (not var and etc but / and /usr /lib /bin /sbin etc) are read only so that no system executables can be modified at all from inside the jail. This should prevent most root-kit type things being installed and replacing system binaries. google on jail and nullfs and readonly to see previous discussions Chad > - Create a separate partition to run the jail and enable quotas > 2) Setup suphp to run the php scripts as an unprivleged non-www user, > make sure to run php in safe_mode > 3) Make sure the the database user (It's not using "root" right?) only > has privileges to access it's tables, and better yet restrict that to > the normal table operations (DELETE, UPDATE, SELECT, INSERT) if the > application isn't doing anything fancy. > > -- > Anish Mistry --- Chad Leigh -- Shire.Net LLC Your Web App and Email hosting provider chad at shire.net From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Dec 15 09:36:38 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EEEE916A41F for ; Thu, 15 Dec 2005 09:36:37 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from spamchannel@gmail.com) Received: from xproxy.gmail.com (xproxy.gmail.com [66.249.82.201]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D3F1343D7F for ; Thu, 15 Dec 2005 09:36:23 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from spamchannel@gmail.com) Received: by xproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id s9so260608wxc for ; Thu, 15 Dec 2005 01:36:20 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=juHWzGlmcYUZpZvwrx+ZbEN6as4cXZgwd+IhBmhWy0RRRNF9Y4k22kFvsM9wyI9tOcGMbl6wNzb/tKr3JPZSES7BK+lWPSEEiCCcrMEOAivjHH1M8I8xmyi/YTw8vhYOMOHO8eh8X/ik82I6LDz3+qbAqaQoJX2IFdgprK1NBKA= Received: by 10.70.91.10 with SMTP id o10mr2322432wxb; Thu, 15 Dec 2005 01:36:20 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.70.63.2 with HTTP; Thu, 15 Dec 2005 01:36:20 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <9ca8670b0512150136q67cc266cxd62c4eae14d2137f@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 15 Dec 2005 03:36:20 -0600 From: Jim White To: questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <9ca8670b0512150134v63d6c67ake954330e16507e1@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <6e4453640512142340m11dd1c8cu9c3ce2f1be59b1d1@mail.gmail.com> <6e4453640512150056p37bed48aga9d338eeb16bb925@mail.gmail.com> <9ca8670b0512150134v63d6c67ake954330e16507e1@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: Subject: Re: TouchPoint on IBM Thinkpad works in console but not X X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 15 Dec 2005 09:36:38 -0000 On 12/15/05, Pietro Cerutti wrote: > > On 12/15/05, TuxGirl wrote: > > > Wild guess here, but I'm thinking it might not be able to use it sinc= e > > > it's being used in the console. > > > > Yes, this is the problem > > > > > I don't actually use the mouse in > > > the console, though, so if there's a way to stop using it there, and > > > just use it in X, I'd be happy to do that. I'm not sure how I would > > > go about doing that, though. > > > > add the line > > > > moused_enable=3D"NO" > > > > in your /etc/rc.conf > > Or you could set the Protocol line in your xorg.conf to sysmouse instead of ps/2 to keep console mouse access. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Dec 15 10:11:16 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1AEFF16A420 for ; Thu, 15 Dec 2005 10:11:16 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from work@ashleymoran.me.uk) Received: from mail.dc-servers.com (mail.dc-servers.com [83.243.101.206]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 2DF4A43D68 for ; Thu, 15 Dec 2005 10:11:13 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from work@ashleymoran.me.uk) Received: (qmail 7915 invoked by uid 399); 15 Dec 2005 10:13:26 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO alfie.jigsawhq.com) (work@ashleymoran.me.uk@213.106.224.113) by mail.dc-servers.com with SMTP; 15 Dec 2005 10:13:26 -0000 From: Ashley Moran Organization: Codeweavers Ltd To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Thu, 15 Dec 2005 10:10:07 +0000 User-Agent: KMail/1.8.3 References: <200512141744.05856.work@ashleymoran.me.uk> <43A078E8.30504@oxygen.az> In-Reply-To: <43A078E8.30504@oxygen.az> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200512151010.07216.work@ashleymoran.me.uk> Subject: Re: Problem adding user with pw X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 15 Dec 2005 10:11:16 -0000 On Wednesday 14 December 2005 19:56, Tofik Suleymanov wrote: > maybe missing entry in /etc/shells ? ARRRRGGGHHH! I found the answer: shells is a comma-separated list; shellpath is a colon-separated list. So my new /etc/pw.conf reads shellpath /bin:/usr/bin:/usr/local/bin shells sh,csh,tcsh,bash defaultshell bash And it all works fine. Oh how I wish I read the man page fully before starting... Ashley From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Dec 15 10:36:11 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7B65F16A41F for ; Thu, 15 Dec 2005 10:36:11 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from scott@fishballoon.org) Received: from mta09-winn.ispmail.ntl.com (mta09-winn.ispmail.ntl.com [81.103.221.49]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4A39A43D8C for ; Thu, 15 Dec 2005 10:36:01 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from scott@fishballoon.org) Received: from aamta11-winn.ispmail.ntl.com ([81.103.221.35]) by mta09-winn.ispmail.ntl.com with ESMTP id <20051215103559.XWLE8609.mta09-winn.ispmail.ntl.com@aamta11-winn.ispmail.ntl.com>; Thu, 15 Dec 2005 10:35:59 +0000 Received: from llama.fishballoon.org ([81.104.195.171]) by aamta11-winn.ispmail.ntl.com with ESMTP id <20051215103559.WROU16192.aamta11-winn.ispmail.ntl.com@llama.fishballoon.org>; Thu, 15 Dec 2005 10:35:59 +0000 Received: from tuatara.fishballoon.org ([192.168.1.6]) by llama.fishballoon.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52 (FreeBSD)) id 1EmqSr-0006Kf-Az; Thu, 15 Dec 2005 10:35:57 +0000 Received: (from scott@localhost) by tuatara.fishballoon.org (8.13.3/8.13.3/Submit) id jBFAZuFn029070; Thu, 15 Dec 2005 10:35:56 GMT (envelope-from scott) Date: Thu, 15 Dec 2005 10:35:56 +0000 From: Scott Mitchell To: Pietro Cerutti Message-ID: <20051215103556.GA904@tuatara.fishballoon.org> References: <43A116DB.8090608@russellmeek.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 5.4-RELEASE i386 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Completely disable sendmail X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 15 Dec 2005 10:36:11 -0000 On Thu, Dec 15, 2005 at 09:30:07AM +0100, Pietro Cerutti wrote: > Same thing with "NONE" instead of "NO", moreover `man sendmail.rc` says > > sendmail_enable > (str) If set to ``YES'', run the sendmail(8) daemon at system > boot time. If set to ``NO'', do not run a sendmail(8) daemon to > listen for incoming network mail. This does not preclude a > sendmail(8) daemon listening on the SMTP port of the loopback > interface. The ``NONE'' option is deprecated and should not be > used. It will be removed in a future release. Hi Pietro, Setting the 4 sendmail*_enable variables to NO as you've done will prevent any sendmail daemons from running. However, it doesn't stop anything from directly invoking /usr/sbin/sendmail - which is what cron does when it wants to send some mail. When sendmail is invoked this way it will try to deliver the mail according to its submit.cf configuration file. You should be able to disable any email sending from cron by adding a MAILTO="" line to your crontab file. It might still be a good idea to fix your sendmail configuration so you can actually send mail from this system. Cheers, Scott -- =========================================================================== Scott Mitchell | PGP Key ID | "Eagles may soar, but weasels Cambridge, England | 0x54B171B9 | don't get sucked into jet engines" scott at fishballoon.org | 0xAA775B8B | -- Anon From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Dec 15 10:50:46 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 478A416A41F for ; Thu, 15 Dec 2005 10:50:46 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from rsmith@xs4all.nl) Received: from smtp-vbr1.xs4all.nl (smtp-vbr1.xs4all.nl [194.109.24.21]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8574443D46 for ; Thu, 15 Dec 2005 10:50:45 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from rsmith@xs4all.nl) Received: from slackbox.xs4all.nl (slackbox.xs4all.nl [213.84.242.160]) by smtp-vbr1.xs4all.nl (8.13.3/8.13.3) with ESMTP id jBFAog9c062013; Thu, 15 Dec 2005 11:50:42 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from rsmith@xs4all.nl) Received: by slackbox.xs4all.nl (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 8B084B829; Thu, 15 Dec 2005 11:50:42 +0100 (CET) Date: Thu, 15 Dec 2005 11:50:42 +0100 From: Roland Smith To: Gary Kline Message-ID: <20051215105042.GC91015@slackbox.xs4all.nl> Mail-Followup-To: Gary Kline , FreeBSD Mailing List References: <20051215021641.GA45523@thought.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="HG+GLK89HZ1zG0kk" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20051215021641.GA45523@thought.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i X-GPG-Fingerprint: 1A2B 477F 9970 BA3C 2914 B7CE 1277 EFB0 C321 A725 X-GPG-Key: http://www.xs4all.nl/~rsmith/pubkey.txt X-GPG-Notice: If this message is not signed, don't assume I sent it! X-Virus-Scanned: by XS4ALL Virus Scanner Cc: FreeBSD Mailing List Subject: Re: this AMD motherboard? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 15 Dec 2005 10:50:46 -0000 --HG+GLK89HZ1zG0kk Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Wed, Dec 14, 2005 at 06:16:41PM -0800, Gary Kline wrote: > Can anyone tell if the graphics chips on this card will work > with X? > http://www.ecs.com.tw/ECSWeb/Products/ProductsDetail.aspx?DetailID=3D422&= MenuID=3D24&LanID=3D9 Looks like it will work: http://www.winischhofer.at/linuxsispart1.shtml#12 Roland --=20 R.F.Smith (http://www.xs4all.nl/~rsmith/) Please send e-mail as plain text. public key: http://www.xs4all.nl/~rsmith/pubkey.txt --HG+GLK89HZ1zG0kk Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.2 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFDoUqCEnfvsMMhpyURAvhWAKCw7bm0Tbc0y+nWQLAslGybfnkziwCfZ0S9 k8HvqR4w00MRM5e+mpjL8gE= =9ajL -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --HG+GLK89HZ1zG0kk-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Dec 15 11:25:35 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A846D16A41F for ; Thu, 15 Dec 2005 11:25:35 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from xfb52@dial.pipex.com) Received: from smtp-out1.blueyonder.co.uk (smtp-out1.blueyonder.co.uk [195.188.213.4]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DB89143D46 for ; Thu, 15 Dec 2005 11:25:33 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from xfb52@dial.pipex.com) Received: from [82.41.32.173] ([82.41.32.173]) by smtp-out1.blueyonder.co.uk with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.6713); Thu, 15 Dec 2005 11:26:28 +0000 Message-ID: <43A152AC.4010000@dial.pipex.com> Date: Thu, 15 Dec 2005 11:25:32 +0000 From: Alex Zbyslaw User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-GB; rv:1.7.12) Gecko/20051106 X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Erik Norgaard References: <43A0E32F.8080305@icehouse.net> <43A12C32.70801@locolomo.org> In-Reply-To: <43A12C32.70801@locolomo.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-OriginalArrivalTime: 15 Dec 2005 11:26:28.0604 (UTC) FILETIME=[6435B3C0:01C6016A] Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Multiboot SATA/PATA (changed subject) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 15 Dec 2005 11:25:35 -0000 Erik Norgaard wrote: > Andrew Falanga wrote: > >> I'm new to FreeBSD but not to UNIX. The guy who burned me the 6.0 >> release iso's told me that during the install, FreeBSD would detect >> my Windows XP drive but it didn't. I have two hard drives, one for >> FreeBSD one for Windows. The FreeBSD drive is SATA and the Windows >> is PATA (IDE, but I'm sure you all knew that). > > > I have the same or similar problem, only that both my hard drives are > SATA: (dmesg) > > ad4: 38146MB at ata2-master SATA150 > ad5: 38146MB at ata2-slave SATA150 > Trying to mount root from ufs:/dev/ad4s1a > > The boot loader gives me two options F1 FreeBSD and F5 Unknown but > chosing either will boot FreeBSD? F5 is "next disk". There are only 4 slices that FreeBSD can theoretically boot from (F1-F4) and F5 moves you on to whatever the next disk is (and on the last disk moves you back to the first). I suggest that F5 is actually doing nothing, and that the loader just times out and boots from the FreeBSD disk, probably because you have not installed the FreeBSD boot loader on the Windows disk. --Alex From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Dec 15 11:40:46 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 934B116A41F for ; Thu, 15 Dec 2005 11:40:46 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: from rosebud.otenet.gr (rosebud.otenet.gr [195.170.0.94]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B938543D53 for ; Thu, 15 Dec 2005 11:40:44 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: from flame.pc (aris.bedc.ondsl.gr [62.103.39.226]) by rosebud.otenet.gr (8.13.4/8.13.4/Debian-8) with SMTP id jBFBeUO6028130; Thu, 15 Dec 2005 13:40:35 +0200 Received: by flame.pc (Postfix, from userid 1001) id D086811453; Thu, 15 Dec 2005 13:39:33 +0200 (EET) Date: Thu, 15 Dec 2005 13:39:33 +0200 From: Giorgos Keramidas To: Ted Mittelstaedt Message-ID: <20051215113933.GA1608@flame.pc> References: <20051214203437.GA17667@nvnsvch.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: Cc: caleb , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, RW Subject: Re: pine X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 15 Dec 2005 11:40:46 -0000 On 2005-12-14 18:37, Ted Mittelstaedt wrote: >On December 14, 2005 12:35 PM, gwen wrote: >> Have you ever seen the output of tcpdump? You see anything on the >> same network as you. So any of the following *likely* situations >> leaves your non-encrypted password open for sniffing: >> >> 1) Wireless access, *any* wireless access. > > Er, WEP anyone? That's hardly enough... http://blogs.zdnet.com/Ou/index.php?p=41 > Do you really think if this poster is smart enough to figure out how > to turn on SSL on pine that he hasn't already thought of that? Probably, but that's a very valid rhetorical question :) From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Dec 15 11:49:27 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B0D2F16A41F for ; Thu, 15 Dec 2005 11:49:27 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: from aiolos.otenet.gr (aiolos.otenet.gr [195.170.0.93]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9D72543D55 for ; Thu, 15 Dec 2005 11:49:26 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: from flame.pc (aris.bedc.ondsl.gr [62.103.39.226]) by aiolos.otenet.gr (8.13.4/8.13.4/Debian-8) with SMTP id jBFBnOcK010047; Thu, 15 Dec 2005 13:49:24 +0200 Received: by flame.pc (Postfix, from userid 1001) id DBC7011453; Thu, 15 Dec 2005 13:48:28 +0200 (EET) Date: Thu, 15 Dec 2005 13:48:28 +0200 From: Giorgos Keramidas To: caleb Message-ID: <20051215114828.GB1608@flame.pc> References: <20051215173501.X3683@nebuchadnezzar.my.domain> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20051215173501.X3683@nebuchadnezzar.my.domain> Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, Ted Mittelstaedt , RW Subject: Re: pine X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 15 Dec 2005 11:49:27 -0000 On 2005-12-15 17:44, caleb wrote: > Hi everyone, > I am thinkng of switching ISP's, registering a domain and setting up > my own mail server. [...] > The ISP I am using (according to thier 'technical support') does not > use any encryption with the POP server and I am able to telnet into > the SMTP server on port 25 and have my way with it. [...] > I also plan to try thunderbird (*sigh* I have to use X), to see if > there is any difference between it's connection and pine's FWIW, the easiest way, by far, to configure outgoing email access once and for all, for any possible mailer or other program that runs on your machine is to configure Sendmail or install another equally powerful MTA, like Postfix. If you have a static IP address of your own, and a registered domain name (which seems to be the plan, as far as I can tell), this is immensely useful & easy to set up. Then you don't have to worry about picking out the "right" application (Pine or Mutt or Mozilla or Thunderbird or whatever) to match the settings of your ISP, because those are abstracted away by your local mail server. - Giorgos From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Dec 15 12:28:38 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E635716A41F for ; Thu, 15 Dec 2005 12:28:38 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from martin@dc.cis.okstate.edu) Received: from dc.cis.okstate.edu (dc.cis.okstate.edu [139.78.100.219]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7DF6D43D53 for ; Thu, 15 Dec 2005 12:28:38 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from martin@dc.cis.okstate.edu) Received: from dc.cis.okstate.edu (localhost.cis.okstate.edu [127.0.0.1]) by dc.cis.okstate.edu (8.12.6/8.12.6) with ESMTP id jBFCSbhn042555 for ; Thu, 15 Dec 2005 06:28:37 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from martin@dc.cis.okstate.edu) Message-Id: <200512151228.jBFCSbhn042555@dc.cis.okstate.edu> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Thu, 15 Dec 2005 06:28:37 -0600 From: Martin McCormick Subject: Re: Expect-5.32.1 and Hangups when Spawning a Shell X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 15 Dec 2005 12:28:39 -0000 Rob writes: >Ports has now a more recent expect (5.43.0), which I >use That definitely is the better route. This particular system is in use 24/7 by our group and once was a version or two ahead of the FreeBSD that our DNS's and dhcp servers were using. Time and a complete failure of a hard drive on our master DNS last Summer means that it has version 4.11 and the rest need to catch up or go to version 5.x or 6.x. Many thanks. Martin McCormick From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Dec 15 12:50:39 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C7A3516A41F for ; Thu, 15 Dec 2005 12:50:39 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from peo@intersonic.se) Received: from neonpark.inter-sonic.com (neonpark.inter-sonic.com [212.247.8.98]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 19A6643D49 for ; Thu, 15 Dec 2005 12:50:36 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from peo@intersonic.se) Received: from localhost (terrapin.inter-sonic.com [172.16.1.12]) by neonpark.inter-sonic.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 49A26818E74 for ; Thu, 15 Dec 2005 13:50:33 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <43A16686.3000903@intersonic.se> Date: Thu, 15 Dec 2005 13:50:14 +0100 From: Per olof Ljungmark User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.7 (Windows/20050923) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at inter-sonic.com Cc: Subject: 6-STABLE buildworld error X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 15 Dec 2005 12:50:39 -0000 CVSUP to STABLE today and got the following result from a fresh 6.0 CD install. FreeBSD 6.0-RELEASE #0: Thu Nov 3 09:36:13 UTC 2005 root@x64.samsco.home:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC i386 [make -j4 buildworld] ===> gnu/usr.bin/texinfo/doc makeinfo --no-split -I /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/texinfo/doc -I /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/texinfo/doc/../../../../contrib/texinfo/doc /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/texinfo/doc/../../../../contrib/texinfo/doc/info.texi -o info.info makeinfo --no-split -I /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/texinfo/doc -I /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/texinfo/doc/../../../../contrib/texinfo/doc /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/texinfo/doc/../../../../contrib/texinfo/doc/info-stnd.texi -o info-stnd.info ln -fs /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/texinfo/doc/../../../../contrib/texinfo/doc/texinfo.txi texinfo.texi gzip -cn info.info > info.info.gz makeinfo --no-split -I /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/texinfo/doc -I /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/texinfo/doc/../../../../contrib/texinfo/doc texinfo.texi -o texinfo.info gzip -cn info-stnd.info > info-stnd.info.gz gzip -cn texinfo.info > texinfo.info.gz 1 error *** Error code 2 1 error *** Error code 2 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Dec 15 13:20:09 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8787216A41F for ; Thu, 15 Dec 2005 13:20:09 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: from aiolos.otenet.gr (aiolos.otenet.gr [195.170.0.93]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BABB243D5D for ; Thu, 15 Dec 2005 13:20:07 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: from flame.pc (aris.bedc.ondsl.gr [62.103.39.226]) by aiolos.otenet.gr (8.13.4/8.13.4/Debian-8) with SMTP id jBFDK4G9015527; Thu, 15 Dec 2005 15:20:05 +0200 Received: by flame.pc (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 4A40011459; Thu, 15 Dec 2005 15:19:09 +0200 (EET) Date: Thu, 15 Dec 2005 15:19:09 +0200 From: Giorgos Keramidas To: Per olof Ljungmark Message-ID: <20051215131909.GA2137@flame.pc> References: <43A16686.3000903@intersonic.se> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <43A16686.3000903@intersonic.se> Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: 6-STABLE buildworld error X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 15 Dec 2005 13:20:09 -0000 On 2005-12-15 13:50, Per olof Ljungmark wrote: > CVSUP to STABLE today and got the following result from a fresh 6.0 CD > install. > > FreeBSD 6.0-RELEASE #0: Thu Nov 3 09:36:13 UTC 2005 > root@x64.samsco.home:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC i386 > > [make -j4 buildworld] ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ > ===> gnu/usr.bin/texinfo/doc > makeinfo --no-split -I /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/texinfo/doc -I > /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/texinfo/doc/../../../../contrib/texinfo/doc > /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/texinfo/doc/../../../../contrib/texinfo/doc/info.texi > -o info.info > makeinfo --no-split -I /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/texinfo/doc -I > /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/texinfo/doc/../../../../contrib/texinfo/doc > /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/texinfo/doc/../../../../contrib/texinfo/doc/info-stnd.texi > -o info-stnd.info > ln -fs > /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/texinfo/doc/../../../../contrib/texinfo/doc/texinfo.txi > texinfo.texi > gzip -cn info.info > info.info.gz > makeinfo --no-split -I /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/texinfo/doc -I > /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/texinfo/doc/../../../../contrib/texinfo/doc > texinfo.texi -o texinfo.info > gzip -cn info-stnd.info > info-stnd.info.gz > gzip -cn texinfo.info > texinfo.info.gz > 1 error > *** Error code 2 > 1 error > *** Error code 2 Try again without -j4, as it tends to "hide" the real problem. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Dec 15 13:56:27 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 62BB916A41F for ; Thu, 15 Dec 2005 13:56:27 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from nvass@teledome.gr) Received: from matrix.teledomenet.gr (dns1.teledomenet.gr [213.142.128.1]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A715D43D60 for ; Thu, 15 Dec 2005 13:56:23 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from nvass@teledome.gr) Received: from iris ([192.168.1.71]) by matrix.teledomenet.gr (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id jBFDuLkA014967 for ; Thu, 15 Dec 2005 15:56:22 +0200 From: Nikos Vassiliadis To: FreeBSD Date: Thu, 15 Dec 2005 15:53:42 +0200 User-Agent: KMail/1.8.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200512151553.42302.nvass@teledome.gr> Subject: rc question: one-time script X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 15 Dec 2005 13:56:27 -0000 Hello list, Is there any way of runnning a script, only once? at boot time for example? and all that in an rc friendly way, without having to change the /etc/rc* scripts? thanks in advance Nikos From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Dec 15 14:08:07 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C274916A41F for ; Thu, 15 Dec 2005 14:08:07 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from mj001@rogers.com) Received: from smtp102.rog.mail.re2.yahoo.com (smtp102.rog.mail.re2.yahoo.com [206.190.36.80]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id D754F43D64 for ; Thu, 15 Dec 2005 14:08:06 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from mj001@rogers.com) Received: (qmail 47172 invoked from network); 15 Dec 2005 14:08:04 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=rogers.com; h=Received:Subject:From:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Content-Type:Date:Message-Id:Mime-Version:X-Mailer:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=sR+AaYA/JBfFgqX8npbjdAMLzNRIdzdGjftoKpAiOj9U4zPm0jVgdWMR1+rDwJ0t/olaEtFrnnJNF+xQRmoGWDhUAX4wyQEg74D+xbl/NRmbwcqaEw2BQcXr9FE596e82cMC6C0LZr405PZFXNwKdfy3ti9wsuDaDbJAr1e0p/M= ; Received: from unknown (HELO chaucer.jeays.ca) (mj001@rogers.com@72.139.51.96 with plain) by smtp102.rog.mail.re2.yahoo.com with SMTP; 15 Dec 2005 14:08:04 -0000 From: Mike Jeays To: Nikos Vassiliadis In-Reply-To: <200512151553.42302.nvass@teledome.gr> References: <200512151553.42302.nvass@teledome.gr> Content-Type: text/plain Date: Thu, 15 Dec 2005 09:08:02 -0500 Message-Id: <1134655682.6300.144.camel@chaucer.jeays.ca> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.2.1.1 FreeBSD GNOME Team Port Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: FreeBSD Subject: Re: rc question: one-time script X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 15 Dec 2005 14:08:07 -0000 On Thu, 2005-12-15 at 15:53 +0200, Nikos Vassiliadis wrote: > Hello list, > > Is there any way of runnning a script, only once? > at boot time for example? and all that in an rc friendly > way, without having to change the /etc/rc* scripts? > > thanks in advance > > Nikos > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" This quote from 'man 5 crontab' should help. Instead of the first five fields, one of eight special strings may appear: string meaning ------ ------- @reboot Run once, at startup. @yearly Run once a year, "0 0 1 1 *". @annually (same as @yearly) @monthly Run once a month, "0 0 1 * *". @weekly Run once a week, "0 0 * * 0". @daily Run once a day, "0 0 * * *". @midnight (same as @daily) @hourly Run once an hour, "0 * * * *". From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Dec 15 14:11:14 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4102B16A41F for ; Thu, 15 Dec 2005 14:11:14 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from doug@polands.org) Received: from corinth.polands.org (CPE-72-129-222-120.new.res.rr.com [72.129.222.120]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 96C5E43D73 for ; Thu, 15 Dec 2005 14:11:02 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from doug@polands.org) Received: from email.polands.org (ammon.polands.org [172.16.1.7]) by corinth.polands.org (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id jBFEB1hO070310; Thu, 15 Dec 2005 08:11:01 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from doug@polands.org) Received: from 209.103.215.99 (proxying for 209.103.215.99) (SquirrelMail authenticated user djp) by email.polands.org with HTTP; Thu, 15 Dec 2005 08:11:01 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <60707.209.103.215.99.1134655861.squirrel@email.polands.org> In-Reply-To: <200512151553.42302.nvass@teledome.gr> References: <200512151553.42302.nvass@teledome.gr> Date: Thu, 15 Dec 2005 08:11:01 -0600 (CST) From: "Doug Poland" To: "Nikos Vassiliadis" User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.5 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV 0.87/1209/Mon Dec 12 09:48:01 2005 on corinth.polands.org X-Virus-Status: Clean Cc: FreeBSD Subject: Re: rc question: one-time script X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 15 Dec 2005 14:11:14 -0000 On Thu, December 15, 2005 07:53, Nikos Vassiliadis wrote: > Hello list, > > Is there any way of runnning a script, only once? > at boot time for example? and all that in an rc friendly > way, without having to change the /etc/rc* scripts? > man 5 crontab | grep -C5 reboot -- Regards, Doug From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Dec 15 14:12:37 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7A78E16A41F for ; Thu, 15 Dec 2005 14:12:37 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from chand0s@list.ru) Received: from mx1.mail.ru (mx1.mail.ru [194.67.23.121]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9355A43D95 for ; Thu, 15 Dec 2005 14:12:27 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from chand0s@list.ru) Received: from [213.242.10.70] (port=57577 helo=lazy.lazy.org) by mx1.mail.ru with asmtp id 1EmtqI-000FvA-00; Thu, 15 Dec 2005 17:12:24 +0300 Date: Thu, 15 Dec 2005 17:12:10 +0300 From: "Vasilkov Vasily" To: "Nikos Vassiliadis" , FreeBSD References: <200512151553.42302.nvass@teledome.gr> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; delsp=yes; charset=koi8-r MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <200512151553.42302.nvass@teledome.gr> User-Agent: Opera M2/8.0 (Win32, build 7561) Cc: Subject: Re: rc question: one-time script X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 15 Dec 2005 14:12:37 -0000 On Thu, 15 Dec 2005 16:53:42 +0300, Nikos Vassiliadis wrote: > Hello list, > > Is there any way of runnning a script, only once? > at boot time for example? and all that in an rc friendly > way, without having to change the /etc/rc* scripts? > > thanks in advance > > Nikos > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > Put your scripts into /usr/local/etc/rc.d/ folder... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Dec 15 14:13:19 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7AE8E16A420 for ; Thu, 15 Dec 2005 14:13:19 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from roberto.nunnari@supsi.ch) Received: from mail.dti.supsi.ch (mail.dti.supsi.ch [193.5.153.13]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B71DB43D5A for ; Thu, 15 Dec 2005 14:12:42 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from roberto.nunnari@supsi.ch) Received: from [193.5.152.27] (pcm2027.dti.supsi.ch [193.5.152.27]) by mail.dti.supsi.ch (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id jBFECWpZ000863; Thu, 15 Dec 2005 15:12:35 +0100 Message-ID: <43A179CC.8070602@supsi.ch> Date: Thu, 15 Dec 2005 15:12:28 +0100 From: Roberto Nunnari User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.7 (Windows/20050923) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Harley D. Eades III" References: <43A031B1.2030105@supsi.ch> <43A04A05.3060504@ywave.com> <1134584001.34653.8.camel@devilBSD.freeBSD> In-Reply-To: <1134584001.34653.8.camel@devilBSD.freeBSD> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Micah , "'freebsd-questions@freebsd.org'" Subject: Re: grub doesn't know ufs filesystem X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 15 Dec 2005 14:13:19 -0000 Hi Micah and Harley, Thanks for your answer. Humm.. I don't have any other grub on my path, and running which returns: # which grub /usr/local/sbin/grub The ports were updated quite recently.. in occasion of last update world. I did some more testing.. the strange thing is that I use the same grub boot floppy and the results are ok on the newly installed freebsd boxes, while on the two that are already installed the results are bad.. test 1: ======= - made a grub floppy - boot the existing FreeBSD boxes (2 boxes) from grub floppy result --> grub doesn't know the ufs filesystem test 2: ======= - installed a brand new FreeBSD 5-3-RELEASE with default partitioning on the whole disk on a separate pc - boot with grub floppy result --> grub recognizes the ufs filesystem test 3: ======= - same as test2, but / root has now soft-updates option - boot with grub floppy result --> grub recognizes the ufs filesystem test 4: ======= - same as test2, but partitioning done with partition magic as was done on the computers of test1 - boot with grub floppy result --> grub recognizes the ufs filesystem All that seams to point out that there's something wrong with the existing FreeBSD boxes.. but What? I must say that both boxes had all filesystem dumped and restored after repartitioning for permitting the use of dumping software such as ghost (that didn't like the partitioning done by freebsd during installation..) Any more ideas? Harley D. Eades III wrote: > On Wed, 2005-12-14 at 08:36 -0800, Micah wrote: > >>Roberto Nunnari wrote: >> >>>Hello list. >>> >>>Please also reply to my mailbox, as I'm not on the list. >>>Thank you. >>> >>>I have a old grub floppy that I use time to time to >>>boot/recover pc with different OS.. Today I wanted to >>>boot a freebsd 5.3-RELEASE-p23 box, but to my surprise >>>grub reported: >>> >>>Filesystem type unknown, partition type 0xa5 >>> >>>and thus cannot mount /boot/loader >>> >>>So I thought I'd make a grub floppy with a recent version, >>>but even with version 0.97 things won't change.. >>> >>># cd /usr/ports/sysutils/grub >>># make install >>># grub >>> [ Minimal BASH-like line editing is supported. For the first word, TAB >>> lists possible command completions. Anywhere else TAB lists the >>>possible >>> completions of a device/filename. ] >>> >>>grub> root (hd0,0,a) >>> Filesystem type unknown, partition type 0xa5 >>> >>>grub> kernel /boot/loader >>> >>>Error 17: Cannot mount selected partition >>> >>>grub> root (hd0, >>> Possible partitions are: >>> Partition num: 0, [BSD sub-partitions immediately follow] >>> BSD Partition num: 'a', Filesystem type unknown, partition type 0xa5 >>> BSD Partition num: 'b', Filesystem type unknown, partition type 0xa5 >>> BSD Partition num: 'd', Filesystem type unknown, partition type 0xa5 >>> BSD Partition num: 'e', Filesystem type unknown, partition type 0xa5 >>> BSD Partition num: 'f', Filesystem type unknown, partition type 0xa5 >>> >>>grub> quit >>> >>># mount >>>/dev/ad0s1a on / (ufs, local, soft-updates) >>>devfs on /dev (devfs, local) >>>/dev/ad0s1e on /tmp (ufs, local, soft-updates) >>>/dev/ad0s1f on /usr (ufs, local, soft-updates) >>>/dev/ad0s1d on /var (ufs, local, soft-updates) >>>linprocfs on /usr/compat/linux/proc (linprocfs, local) >>>devfs on /var/named/dev (devfs, local) >>> >>>Any hint/thought/advice? >>> >>>Best regards. >> >>I just installed grub from ports and duplicated your test and it works >>fine. I'd start by checking your installation and making sure you don't >>have any other grubs in your path. Some of the grubs that ship with >>Linux distros do not support ufs. Do a find/locate on grub to see what >>turns up. Do a which grub, you should get /usr/local/sbin/grub. If >>not, issue /usr/local/sbin/grub from a command prompt and duplicate your >>test. If that's broken, make sure your ports tree is up to date, make >>sure /usr/ports/devel/autoconf259 /usr/ports/devel/automake19 >>/usr/ports/devel/gmake are up to date (grub's build dependancies) then >>deinstall, clean, and reintsall the grub port. >> >> >>HTH, >>Micah >>_______________________________________________ >>freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list >>http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions >>To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > > I can second this, I use grub all the time, as well as test grub2 on > FreeBSD and both work great for me. > > --Harley > -----BEGIN GEEK CODE BLOCK----- > G: GCS-- d- a? C++++ B- E+++ W+++ N++ w--- X+++ b++ G e* r x+ z+++++ > ------END GEEK CODE BLOCK------ -- Roberto Nunnari -software engineer- mailto:roberto.nunnari@supsi.ch Scuola Universitaria Professionale della Svizzera Italiana Dipartimento Tecnologie Innovative http://www.dti.supsi.ch SUPSI-DTI Via Cantonale tel: +41-91-6108561 6928 Manno """ fax: +41-91-6108570 Switzerland (o o) =======================oOO==(_)==OOo======================== From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Dec 15 14:25:13 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AEF6D16A41F for ; Thu, 15 Dec 2005 14:25:13 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from nvass@teledome.gr) Received: from matrix.teledomenet.gr (dns1.teledomenet.gr [213.142.128.1]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C058A43D69 for ; Thu, 15 Dec 2005 14:24:59 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from nvass@teledome.gr) Received: from iris ([192.168.1.71]) by matrix.teledomenet.gr (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id jBFEOrkA015788; Thu, 15 Dec 2005 16:24:53 +0200 From: Nikos Vassiliadis To: Mike Jeays , "Doug Poland" , "Vasilkov Vasily" Date: Thu, 15 Dec 2005 16:22:14 +0200 User-Agent: KMail/1.8.1 References: <200512151553.42302.nvass@teledome.gr> <1134655682.6300.144.camel@chaucer.jeays.ca> In-Reply-To: <1134655682.6300.144.camel@chaucer.jeays.ca> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-7" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200512151622.14206.nvass@teledome.gr> Cc: FreeBSD Subject: Re: rc question: one-time script X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 15 Dec 2005 14:25:13 -0000 On Thursday 15 December 2005 16:08, Mike Jeays wrote: > On Thu, 2005-12-15 at 15:53 +0200, Nikos Vassiliadis wrote: > > Hello list, > > > > Is there any way of runnning a script, only once? > > at boot time for example? and all that in an rc friendly > > way, without having to change the /etc/rc* scripts? > > > > thanks in advance > > > > Nikos > > > > _______________________________________________ > > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > This quote from 'man 5 crontab' should help. > > Instead of the first five fields, one of eight special strings may > appear: > > string meaning > ------ ------- > @reboot Run once, at startup. > @yearly Run once a year, "0 0 1 1 *". > @annually (same as @yearly) > @monthly Run once a month, "0 0 1 * *". > @weekly Run once a week, "0 0 * * 0". > @daily Run once a day, "0 0 * * *". > @midnight (same as @daily) > @hourly Run once an hour, "0 * * * *". Great, thanks a lot! From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Dec 15 14:25:41 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4B63816A420 for ; Thu, 15 Dec 2005 14:25:41 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from peo@intersonic.se) Received: from neonpark.inter-sonic.com (neonpark.inter-sonic.com [212.247.8.98]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 54D4443D5E for ; Thu, 15 Dec 2005 14:25:32 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from peo@intersonic.se) Received: from localhost (terrapin.inter-sonic.com [172.16.1.12]) by neonpark.inter-sonic.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D9CD8818E5B for ; Thu, 15 Dec 2005 15:25:26 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <43A17C49.4090808@intersonic.se> Date: Thu, 15 Dec 2005 15:23:05 +0100 From: Per olof Ljungmark User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.7 (Windows/20050923) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <43A16686.3000903@intersonic.se> <20051215131909.GA2137@flame.pc> In-Reply-To: <20051215131909.GA2137@flame.pc> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at inter-sonic.com Subject: Re: 6-STABLE buildworld error X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 15 Dec 2005 14:25:41 -0000 Giorgos Keramidas wrote: > On 2005-12-15 13:50, Per olof Ljungmark wrote: > >>CVSUP to STABLE today and got the following result from a fresh 6.0 CD >>install. >> >>FreeBSD 6.0-RELEASE #0: Thu Nov 3 09:36:13 UTC 2005 >>root@x64.samsco.home:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC i386 >> >>[make -j4 buildworld] > > > ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ > > >>===> gnu/usr.bin/texinfo/doc >>makeinfo --no-split -I /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/texinfo/doc -I >>/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/texinfo/doc/../../../../contrib/texinfo/doc >>/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/texinfo/doc/../../../../contrib/texinfo/doc/info.texi >> -o info.info >>makeinfo --no-split -I /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/texinfo/doc -I >>/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/texinfo/doc/../../../../contrib/texinfo/doc >>/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/texinfo/doc/../../../../contrib/texinfo/doc/info-stnd.texi >> -o info-stnd.info >>ln -fs >>/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/texinfo/doc/../../../../contrib/texinfo/doc/texinfo.txi >>texinfo.texi >>gzip -cn info.info > info.info.gz >>makeinfo --no-split -I /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/texinfo/doc -I >>/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/texinfo/doc/../../../../contrib/texinfo/doc >>texinfo.texi -o texinfo.info >>gzip -cn info-stnd.info > info-stnd.info.gz >>gzip -cn texinfo.info > texinfo.info.gz >>1 error >>*** Error code 2 >>1 error >>*** Error code 2 > > > Try again without -j4, as it tends to "hide" the real problem. > Hmmm... "make buildworld" worked fine... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Dec 15 14:33:23 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5BED016A41F for ; Thu, 15 Dec 2005 14:33:23 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from drew@mykitchentable.net) Received: from relay04.roc.ny.frontiernet.net (relay04.roc.ny.frontiernet.net [66.133.182.167]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 144B143D7B for ; Thu, 15 Dec 2005 14:33:10 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from drew@mykitchentable.net) Received: from filter10.roc.ny.frontiernet.net (filter10.roc.ny.frontiernet.net [66.133.183.77]) by relay04.roc.ny.frontiernet.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3BA103580BB; Thu, 15 Dec 2005 14:33:10 +0000 (UTC) Received: from relay04.roc.ny.frontiernet.net ([66.133.182.167]) by filter10.roc.ny.frontiernet.net (filter10.roc.ny.frontiernet.net [66.133.183.77]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 24810-06-70; Thu, 15 Dec 2005 14:33:10 +0000 (UTC) Received: from blacklamb.mykitchentable.net (67-137-46-178.dsl2.elk.ca.frontiernet.net [67.137.46.178]) by relay04.roc.ny.frontiernet.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 33EB53580A1; Thu, 15 Dec 2005 14:33:07 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [192.168.1.25] (unknown [192.168.1.25]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by blacklamb.mykitchentable.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4D8E1153F3B; Thu, 15 Dec 2005 06:33:07 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <43A17EA3.1010802@mykitchentable.net> Date: Thu, 15 Dec 2005 06:33:07 -0800 From: Drew Tomlinson User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (Windows/20041206) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Sasa Stupar References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new-2.3.2 (20050629) at filter10.roc.ny.frontiernet.net Cc: danial_thom@yahoo.com, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, Ted Mittelstaedt Subject: Re: Polling For 100 mbps Connections? (Was Re: Freebsd Theme Song) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 15 Dec 2005 14:33:23 -0000 On 12/15/2005 12:33 AM Sasa Stupar wrote: > > > --On 14. december 2005 20:01 -0800 Ted Mittelstaedt > wrote: > >> >> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: Danial Thom [mailto:danial_thom@yahoo.com] >>> Sent: Wednesday, December 14, 2005 11:14 AM >>> To: Ted Mittelstaedt; Drew Tomlinson >>> Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org >>> Subject: RE: Polling For 100 mbps Connections? (Was Re: Freebsd Theme >>> Song) >>> >> >>>> Well, if polling does no good for fxp, due to >>>> the >>>> hardware doing controlled interrupts, then why >>>> does >>>> the fxp driver even let you set it as an >>>> option? >>>> And why have many people who have enabled it on >>>> fxp seen an improvement? >>> >>> >>> They haven't, freebsd accounting doesn't work >>> properly with polling enabled, and "they" don't >>> have the ability to "know" if they are getting >>> better performance, because "they", like you, >>> have no clue what they're doing. How about all >>> the idiots running MP with FreeBSD 4.x, when we >>> know its just a waste of time? "they" all think >>> they're getting worthwhile performance, because >>> "they" are clueless. >>> >> >> I would call them idiots if they are running MP under >> FreeBSD and assuming that they are getting better >> performance without actually testing for it. But >> if they are just running MP because they happen to be >> using an MP server, and they want to see if it will >> work or not, who cares? >> >>> Maybe its tunable because they guy who wrote the >>> driver made it a tunable? duh. I've yet to see >>> one credible, controlled test that shows polling >>> vs properly tuned interrupt-driven. >>> >> >> Hm, OK I believe that. As I recall I asked you earlier to >> post the test setup you used for your own tests >> "proving" that polling is worse, and you haven't >> done so yet. Now you are saying you have never seen >> a credible controlled test that shows polling vs >> interrupt-driven. So I guess either you were blind >> when you ran your own tests, or your own tests >> are not credible, controlled polling vs properly >> tuned interrupt-driven. As I have been saying >> all along. Now your agreeing with me. >> >>> The only advantage of polling is that it will >>> drop packets instead of going into livelock. The >>> disadvantage is that it will drop packets when >>> you have momentary bursts that would harmlessly >>> put the machine into livelock. Thats about it. >>> >> >> Ah, now I think suddenly I see what the chip on your >> shoulder is. You would rather have your router based >> on FreeBSD go into livelock while packets stack up, >> than drop anything. You tested the polling code and found >> that yipes, it drops packets. >> >> What may I ask do you think that a Cisco or other >> router does when you shove 10Mbt of traffic into it's >> Ethernet interface destined for a host behind a T1 that >> is plugged into the other end? (and no, source-quench >> is not the correct answer) >> >> I think the scenario of it being better to momentary go into >> livelock during an overload is only applicable to one scenario, >> where the 2 interfaces in the router are the same capacity. >> As in ethernet-to-ethernet routers. Most certainly not >> Ethernet-to-serial routers, like what most routers are >> that aren't on DSL lines. >> >> If you have a different understanding then please explain. >> >>>> >>>> I've read those datasheets as well and the >>>> thing I >>>> don't understand is that if you are pumping >>>> 100Mbt >>>> into an Etherexpress Pro/100 then if the card >>>> will >>>> not interrupt more than this throttled rate you >>>> keep >>>> talking about, then the card's interrupt >>>> throttling >>>> is going to limit the inbound bandwidth to >>>> below >>>> 100Mbt. >>> >>> >>> Wrong again, Ted. It scares me that you consider >>> yourself knowlegable about this. You can process >>> # interrupts X ring_size packets; not one per >>> interrupt. You're only polling 1000x per second >>> (or whatever you have hz set to), so why do you >>> think that you have to interrupt for every packet >>> to do 100Mb/s? >> >> >> I never said anything about interrupting for every >> packet, did I? Of course not since I know what >> your talking about. However, it is you who are throwing >> around the numbers - or were in your prior post - >> regarding the fxp driver and hardware. Why should >> I have to do the work digging around in the datasheets >> and doing the math? >> >> Since you seem to be wanting to argue this from a >> theory standpoint, then your only option is to do the >> math. Go ahead, look up the datasheet for the 82557. >> I'm sure it's online somewhere, and tell us what it says >> about throttled interrupts, and run your numbers. >> >>> Do you not understand that packet >>> processing is the same whether its done on a >>> clock tick or a hardware interrupt? Do you not >>> understand that a clock tick has more overhead >>> (because of other assigned tasks)? Do you not >>> understand that getting exactly 5000 hardware >>> interrupts is much more efficient than having >>> 5000 clock tick interrupts per second? What part >>> of this don't you understand? >>> >> >> Well, one part I don't understand is why when >> one of those 5000 clock ticks happens and the fxp driver >> finds no packets to take off the card, that it takes >> the same amount of time for the driver to process >> as when the fxp driver finds packets to process. >> At least, that seems to be what your arguing. >> >> As I've stated before once, probably twice, polling >> is obviously less efficient at lower bandwidth. In interrupt >> driven mode, to get 5000 interrupts per second you are most >> likely going to be having a lot of traffic coming in, >> whereas you could get no traffic at all with polling mode >> in 5000 clock ticks. So clearly, the comparison is always >> stacked towards polling being only a competitor at high bandwidth. >> Why you insist on using scenarios as examples that are low >> bandwidth scenarios I cannot understand because nobody >> in this debate so far has claimed that polling is better >> at low bandwidth. >> >> I am as suspicious of testimonials as the next guy and >> it is quite true that so far everyone promoting polling >> in this thread has posted no test suites that are any better >> than yours - you basically are blowing air at each other. >> But there are a lot of others on the Internet that seem to >> think it works great. I gave you some openings to >> discredit them and you haven't taken them. >> >> I myself have never tried polling, so I >> am certainly not going to argue against a logical, reasoned >> explanation of why it's no good at high bandwidth. So >> far, however, you have not posted anything like this. And >> I am still waiting for the test suites you have used for >> your claim that the networking in 5.4 and later is worse, >> and I don't see why you want to diverge into this side issue >> on polling when the real issue is the alleged worse networking >> in the newer FreeBSD versions. >> >> Ted > > > Hmmm, here is test with iperf what I have done with and without polling: > ************** > ------------------------------------------------------------ > Client connecting to 192.168.1.200, TCP port 5001 > TCP window size: 8.00 KByte (default) > ------------------------------------------------------------ > [1816] local 192.168.10.249 port 1088 connected with 192.168.1.200 > port 5001 > [ ID] Interval Transfer Bandwidth > [1816] 0.0-10.0 sec 108 MBytes 90.1 Mbits/sec > > This is when I use Device polling option on m0n0. > > If I disable this option then my transfer is worse: > ------------------------------------------------------------ > Client connecting to 192.168.1.200, TCP port 5001 > TCP window size: 8.00 KByte (default) > ------------------------------------------------------------ > [1816] local 192.168.10.249 port 1086 connected with 192.168.1.200 > port 5001 > [ ID] Interval Transfer Bandwidth > [1816] 0.0-10.0 sec 69.7 MBytes 58.4 Mbits/sec > *************** > > BTW: my router is m0n0wall (FBSD 4.11). > Thanks for your post. Can you please tell me what network card and driver your machine uses? Thanks, Drew -- Visit The Alchemist's Warehouse Magic Tricks, DVDs, Videos, Books, & More! http://www.alchemistswarehouse.com From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Dec 15 14:42:37 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B6CE816A41F for ; Thu, 15 Dec 2005 14:42:37 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from roberto.nunnari@supsi.ch) Received: from mail.dti.supsi.ch (mail.dti.supsi.ch [193.5.153.13]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DEAEA43D53 for ; Thu, 15 Dec 2005 14:42:36 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from roberto.nunnari@supsi.ch) Received: from [193.5.152.27] (pcm2027.dti.supsi.ch [193.5.152.27]) by mail.dti.supsi.ch (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id jBFEgUaI002779; Thu, 15 Dec 2005 15:42:30 +0100 Message-ID: <43A180D0.4070105@supsi.ch> Date: Thu, 15 Dec 2005 15:42:24 +0100 From: Roberto Nunnari User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.7 (Windows/20050923) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Harley D. Eades III" References: <43A031B1.2030105@supsi.ch> <43A04A05.3060504@ywave.com> <1134584001.34653.8.camel@devilBSD.freeBSD> In-Reply-To: <1134584001.34653.8.camel@devilBSD.freeBSD> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Micah , "roberto .nunnari"@supsi.ch, "'freebsd-questions@freebsd.org'" Subject: Re: grub doesn't know ufs filesystem X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 15 Dec 2005 14:42:37 -0000 One more note.. let's call 'bad' the pc that grub doesn't like and ok the others.. and note that the two pc have identical disk drives.. so.. bad# fdisk ******* Working on device /dev/ad0 ******* parameters extracted from in-core disklabel are: cylinders=29777 heads=16 sectors/track=63 (1008 blks/cyl) Figures below won't work with BIOS for partitions not in cyl 1 parameters to be used for BIOS calculations are: cylinders=29777 heads=16 sectors/track=63 (1008 blks/cyl) Media sector size is 512 Warning: BIOS sector numbering starts with sector 1 Information from DOS bootblock is: The data for partition 1 is: sysid 165 (0xa5),(FreeBSD/NetBSD/386BSD) start 63, size 30009357 (14653 Meg), flag 80 (active) beg: cyl 0/ head 1/ sector 1; end: cyl 1023/ head 254/ sector 63 The data for partition 2 is: The data for partition 3 is: The data for partition 4 is: ok# fdisk ******* Working on device /dev/ad0 ******* parameters extracted from in-core disklabel are: cylinders=29777 heads=16 sectors/track=63 (1008 blks/cyl) Figures below won't work with BIOS for partitions not in cyl 1 parameters to be used for BIOS calculations are: cylinders=29777 heads=16 sectors/track=63 (1008 blks/cyl) Media sector size is 512 Warning: BIOS sector numbering starts with sector 1 Information from DOS bootblock is: The data for partition 1 is: sysid 165 (0xa5),(FreeBSD/NetBSD/386BSD) start 63, size 30009357 (14653 Meg), flag 80 (active) beg: cyl 0/ head 1/ sector 1; end: cyl 1023/ head 3/ sector 63 The data for partition 2 is: The data for partition 3 is: The data for partition 4 is: as you can see, there's a difference in the end head.. bad says end head is 254, while ok says end head is 3 Could that be a source of trouble? bad# disklabel ad0s1 # /dev/ad0s1: 8 partitions: # size offset fstype [fsize bsize bps/cpg] a: 524288 0 4.2BSD 2048 16384 32776 b: 1048576 524288 swap c: 30009357 0 unused 0 0 # "raw" part, don't edit d: 524288 1572864 4.2BSD 2048 16384 32776 e: 524288 2097152 4.2BSD 2048 16384 32776 f: 27387917 2621440 4.2BSD 2048 16384 28552 ok# disklabel ad0s1 # /dev/ad0s1: 8 partitions: # size offset fstype [fsize bsize bps/cpg] a: 524288 0 4.2BSD 2048 16384 32776 b: 996992 524288 swap c: 30009357 0 unused 0 0 # "raw" part, don't edit d: 524288 1521280 4.2BSD 2048 16384 32776 e: 524288 2045568 4.2BSD 2048 16384 32776 f: 27387917 2569856 4.2BSD 2048 16384 28552 the disklabel is essentialy the same.. apart from the size of the swap and consequently the offset of the rest of the internal partitions.. Again.. any ideas? -- Robi Harley D. Eades III wrote: > On Wed, 2005-12-14 at 08:36 -0800, Micah wrote: > >>Roberto Nunnari wrote: >> >>>Hello list. >>> >>>Please also reply to my mailbox, as I'm not on the list. >>>Thank you. >>> >>>I have a old grub floppy that I use time to time to >>>boot/recover pc with different OS.. Today I wanted to >>>boot a freebsd 5.3-RELEASE-p23 box, but to my surprise >>>grub reported: >>> >>>Filesystem type unknown, partition type 0xa5 >>> >>>and thus cannot mount /boot/loader >>> >>>So I thought I'd make a grub floppy with a recent version, >>>but even with version 0.97 things won't change.. >>> >>># cd /usr/ports/sysutils/grub >>># make install >>># grub >>> [ Minimal BASH-like line editing is supported. For the first word, TAB >>> lists possible command completions. Anywhere else TAB lists the >>>possible >>> completions of a device/filename. ] >>> >>>grub> root (hd0,0,a) >>> Filesystem type unknown, partition type 0xa5 >>> >>>grub> kernel /boot/loader >>> >>>Error 17: Cannot mount selected partition >>> >>>grub> root (hd0, >>> Possible partitions are: >>> Partition num: 0, [BSD sub-partitions immediately follow] >>> BSD Partition num: 'a', Filesystem type unknown, partition type 0xa5 >>> BSD Partition num: 'b', Filesystem type unknown, partition type 0xa5 >>> BSD Partition num: 'd', Filesystem type unknown, partition type 0xa5 >>> BSD Partition num: 'e', Filesystem type unknown, partition type 0xa5 >>> BSD Partition num: 'f', Filesystem type unknown, partition type 0xa5 >>> >>>grub> quit >>> >>># mount >>>/dev/ad0s1a on / (ufs, local, soft-updates) >>>devfs on /dev (devfs, local) >>>/dev/ad0s1e on /tmp (ufs, local, soft-updates) >>>/dev/ad0s1f on /usr (ufs, local, soft-updates) >>>/dev/ad0s1d on /var (ufs, local, soft-updates) >>>linprocfs on /usr/compat/linux/proc (linprocfs, local) >>>devfs on /var/named/dev (devfs, local) >>> >>>Any hint/thought/advice? >>> >>>Best regards. >> >>I just installed grub from ports and duplicated your test and it works >>fine. I'd start by checking your installation and making sure you don't >>have any other grubs in your path. Some of the grubs that ship with >>Linux distros do not support ufs. Do a find/locate on grub to see what >>turns up. Do a which grub, you should get /usr/local/sbin/grub. If >>not, issue /usr/local/sbin/grub from a command prompt and duplicate your >>test. If that's broken, make sure your ports tree is up to date, make >>sure /usr/ports/devel/autoconf259 /usr/ports/devel/automake19 >>/usr/ports/devel/gmake are up to date (grub's build dependancies) then >>deinstall, clean, and reintsall the grub port. >> >> >>HTH, >>Micah >>_______________________________________________ >>freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list >>http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions >>To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > > I can second this, I use grub all the time, as well as test grub2 on > FreeBSD and both work great for me. > > --Harley > -----BEGIN GEEK CODE BLOCK----- > G: GCS-- d- a? C++++ B- E+++ W+++ N++ w--- X+++ b++ G e* r x+ z+++++ > ------END GEEK CODE BLOCK------ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Dec 15 15:12:42 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2F92C16A41F for ; Thu, 15 Dec 2005 15:12:42 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from kirk@strauser.com) Received: from kanga.honeypot.net (kanga.honeypot.net [208.162.254.122]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F35BD43D68 for ; Thu, 15 Dec 2005 15:12:21 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from kirk@strauser.com) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by kanga.honeypot.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7F81C99013 for ; Thu, 15 Dec 2005 09:12:18 -0600 (CST) Received: from kanga.honeypot.net ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (kanga.honeypot.net [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 97581-15 for ; Thu, 15 Dec 2005 09:12:18 -0600 (CST) Received: from janus.daycos.com (janus.daycos.com [204.26.70.77]) (using TLSv1 with cipher RC4-MD5 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by kanga.honeypot.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E0121966BE for ; Thu, 15 Dec 2005 09:12:17 -0600 (CST) From: Kirk Strauser To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Thu, 15 Dec 2005 09:12:11 -0600 User-Agent: KMail/1.8.3 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="nextPart2938764.Hm0IfsRrFu"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=pgp-sha1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <200512150912.15860.kirk@strauser.com> X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at honeypot.net Subject: KDE 3.5 status? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 15 Dec 2005 15:12:42 -0000 --nextPart2938764.Hm0IfsRrFu Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline Does anybody know where I can find the status of porting KDE 3.5 to FreeBSD? =2D-=20 Kirk Strauser --nextPart2938764.Hm0IfsRrFu Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iD8DBQBDoYfP5sRg+Y0CpvERAovDAJsF5K2sdf3La7XcVc6xhbEgcWPumwCfYcHF WTqNXJ9u/b9fGCLXVw1MVV0= =Gg5j -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --nextPart2938764.Hm0IfsRrFu-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Dec 15 15:17:49 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E8CE816A41F for ; Thu, 15 Dec 2005 15:17:49 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from micahjon@ywave.com) Received: from smtpout1.ywave.com (ycomradius.yelmtel.com [216.227.100.60]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id EFE4543D58 for ; Thu, 15 Dec 2005 15:17:48 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from micahjon@ywave.com) Received: (qmail 29066 invoked by uid 502); 15 Dec 2005 15:17:47 -0000 Received: from dsl28163.ywave.com (HELO ?192.168.1.65?) (micahjon@ywave.com@216.227.115.163) by 0 with SMTP; 15 Dec 2005 15:17:47 -0000 X-CLIENT-IP: 216.227.115.163 X-CLIENT-HOST: dsl28163.ywave.com Message-ID: <43A1891A.8060005@ywave.com> Date: Thu, 15 Dec 2005 07:17:46 -0800 From: Micah User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.7 (X11/20051204) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Roberto Nunnari References: <43A031B1.2030105@supsi.ch> <43A04A05.3060504@ywave.com> <1134584001.34653.8.camel@devilBSD.freeBSD> <43A180D0.4070105@supsi.ch> In-Reply-To: <43A180D0.4070105@supsi.ch> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: "'freebsd-questions@freebsd.org'" Subject: Re: grub doesn't know ufs filesystem X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 15 Dec 2005 15:17:50 -0000 Roberto Nunnari wrote: > One more note.. let's call 'bad' the pc that grub doesn't > like and ok the others.. and note that the two pc have > identical disk drives.. so.. > > bad# fdisk > ******* Working on device /dev/ad0 ******* > parameters extracted from in-core disklabel are: > cylinders=29777 heads=16 sectors/track=63 (1008 blks/cyl) > > Figures below won't work with BIOS for partitions not in cyl 1 > parameters to be used for BIOS calculations are: > cylinders=29777 heads=16 sectors/track=63 (1008 blks/cyl) > > Media sector size is 512 > Warning: BIOS sector numbering starts with sector 1 > Information from DOS bootblock is: > The data for partition 1 is: > sysid 165 (0xa5),(FreeBSD/NetBSD/386BSD) > start 63, size 30009357 (14653 Meg), flag 80 (active) > beg: cyl 0/ head 1/ sector 1; > end: cyl 1023/ head 254/ sector 63 > The data for partition 2 is: > > The data for partition 3 is: > > The data for partition 4 is: > > > > ok# fdisk > ******* Working on device /dev/ad0 ******* > parameters extracted from in-core disklabel are: > cylinders=29777 heads=16 sectors/track=63 (1008 blks/cyl) > > Figures below won't work with BIOS for partitions not in cyl 1 > parameters to be used for BIOS calculations are: > cylinders=29777 heads=16 sectors/track=63 (1008 blks/cyl) > > Media sector size is 512 > Warning: BIOS sector numbering starts with sector 1 > Information from DOS bootblock is: > The data for partition 1 is: > sysid 165 (0xa5),(FreeBSD/NetBSD/386BSD) > start 63, size 30009357 (14653 Meg), flag 80 (active) > beg: cyl 0/ head 1/ sector 1; > end: cyl 1023/ head 3/ sector 63 > The data for partition 2 is: > > The data for partition 3 is: > > The data for partition 4 is: > > > > as you can see, there's a difference in the end head.. > bad says end head is 254, while ok says end head is 3 > Could that be a source of trouble? > > > bad# disklabel ad0s1 > # /dev/ad0s1: > 8 partitions: > # size offset fstype [fsize bsize bps/cpg] > a: 524288 0 4.2BSD 2048 16384 32776 > b: 1048576 524288 swap > c: 30009357 0 unused 0 0 # "raw" part, > don't edit > d: 524288 1572864 4.2BSD 2048 16384 32776 > e: 524288 2097152 4.2BSD 2048 16384 32776 > f: 27387917 2621440 4.2BSD 2048 16384 28552 > > > ok# disklabel ad0s1 > # /dev/ad0s1: > 8 partitions: > # size offset fstype [fsize bsize bps/cpg] > a: 524288 0 4.2BSD 2048 16384 32776 > b: 996992 524288 swap > c: 30009357 0 unused 0 0 # "raw" part, > don't edit > d: 524288 1521280 4.2BSD 2048 16384 32776 > e: 524288 2045568 4.2BSD 2048 16384 32776 > f: 27387917 2569856 4.2BSD 2048 16384 28552 > > > the disklabel is essentialy the same.. apart from the > size of the swap and consequently the offset of the > rest of the internal partitions.. > > Again.. any ideas? > -- > Robi > > Harley D. Eades III wrote: > >> On Wed, 2005-12-14 at 08:36 -0800, Micah wrote: >> >>> Roberto Nunnari wrote: >>> >>>> Hello list. >>>> >>>> Please also reply to my mailbox, as I'm not on the list. >>>> Thank you. >>>> >>>> I have a old grub floppy that I use time to time to >>>> boot/recover pc with different OS.. Today I wanted to >>>> boot a freebsd 5.3-RELEASE-p23 box, but to my surprise >>>> grub reported: >>>> >>>> Filesystem type unknown, partition type 0xa5 >>>> >>>> and thus cannot mount /boot/loader >>>> >>>> So I thought I'd make a grub floppy with a recent version, >>>> but even with version 0.97 things won't change.. >>>> >>>> # cd /usr/ports/sysutils/grub >>>> # make install >>>> # grub >>>> [ Minimal BASH-like line editing is supported. For the first word, TAB >>>> lists possible command completions. Anywhere else TAB lists the >>>> possible >>>> completions of a device/filename. ] >>>> >>>> grub> root (hd0,0,a) >>>> Filesystem type unknown, partition type 0xa5 >>>> >>>> grub> kernel /boot/loader >>>> >>>> Error 17: Cannot mount selected partition >>>> >>>> grub> root (hd0, >>>> Possible partitions are: >>>> Partition num: 0, [BSD sub-partitions immediately follow] >>>> BSD Partition num: 'a', Filesystem type unknown, partition type >>>> 0xa5 >>>> BSD Partition num: 'b', Filesystem type unknown, partition type >>>> 0xa5 >>>> BSD Partition num: 'd', Filesystem type unknown, partition type >>>> 0xa5 >>>> BSD Partition num: 'e', Filesystem type unknown, partition type >>>> 0xa5 >>>> BSD Partition num: 'f', Filesystem type unknown, partition type >>>> 0xa5 >>>> >>>> grub> quit >>>> >>>> # mount >>>> /dev/ad0s1a on / (ufs, local, soft-updates) >>>> devfs on /dev (devfs, local) >>>> /dev/ad0s1e on /tmp (ufs, local, soft-updates) >>>> /dev/ad0s1f on /usr (ufs, local, soft-updates) >>>> /dev/ad0s1d on /var (ufs, local, soft-updates) >>>> linprocfs on /usr/compat/linux/proc (linprocfs, local) >>>> devfs on /var/named/dev (devfs, local) >>>> >>>> Any hint/thought/advice? >>>> >>>> Best regards. >>> >>> >>> I just installed grub from ports and duplicated your test and it >>> works fine. I'd start by checking your installation and making sure >>> you don't have any other grubs in your path. Some of the grubs that >>> ship with Linux distros do not support ufs. Do a find/locate on grub >>> to see what turns up. Do a which grub, you should get >>> /usr/local/sbin/grub. If not, issue /usr/local/sbin/grub from a >>> command prompt and duplicate your test. If that's broken, make sure >>> your ports tree is up to date, make sure /usr/ports/devel/autoconf259 >>> /usr/ports/devel/automake19 /usr/ports/devel/gmake are up to date >>> (grub's build dependancies) then >>> deinstall, clean, and reintsall the grub port. >>> >>> >>> HTH, >>> Micah >>> _______________________________________________ >>> freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list >>> http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions >>> To unsubscribe, send any mail to >>> "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" >> >> >> >> I can second this, I use grub all the time, as well as test grub2 on >> FreeBSD and both work great for me. >> >> --Harley -----BEGIN GEEK CODE BLOCK----- >> G: GCS-- d- a? C++++ B- E+++ W+++ N++ w--- X+++ b++ G e* r x+ z+++++ >> ------END GEEK CODE BLOCK------ > > I don't think that the end head of 254 is a problem, since mine shows that too. Have you tried running fsck on the bad computers? I wonder if it's a disk controller issue? Maybe the BIOS settings are wrong? Is your BIOS up to date? If you have any unused space on the bad computers, try making a new test partition and see if grub recognizes that. Not sure what else to try after that. HTH, Micah From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Dec 15 15:23:01 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E7DFF16A41F for ; Thu, 15 Dec 2005 15:23:01 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from leblanc@keyslapper.net) Received: from english-breakfast.cloud9.net (english-breakfast.cloud9.net [168.100.1.9]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AABFE43D7C for ; Thu, 15 Dec 2005 15:22:58 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from leblanc@keyslapper.net) Received: from english-breakfast.cloud9.net (localhost.cloud9.net [127.0.0.1]) by english-breakfast.cloud9.net (Postfix) with SMTP id 9335318BDE for ; Thu, 15 Dec 2005 10:22:57 -0500 (EST) Received: from keyslapper.net (250-119.customer.cloud9.net [168.100.250.119]) by english-breakfast.cloud9.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1983D1A224 for ; Thu, 15 Dec 2005 10:22:54 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by keyslapper.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 54BA6115A9 for ; Thu, 15 Dec 2005 10:18:32 -0500 (EST) Received: from keyslapper.net ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (keyslapper.net [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 85202-10 for ; Thu, 15 Dec 2005 10:18:32 -0500 (EST) Received: from www.keyslapper.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by keyslapper.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 09F3F11530 for ; Thu, 15 Dec 2005 10:18:32 -0500 (EST) Received: from 38.112.155.126 (SquirrelMail authenticated user leblanc) by www.keyslapper.net with HTTP; Thu, 15 Dec 2005 10:18:32 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <9415.38.112.155.126.1134659912.squirrel@www.keyslapper.net> In-Reply-To: <200512150912.15860.kirk@strauser.com> References: <200512150912.15860.kirk@strauser.com> Date: Thu, 15 Dec 2005 10:18:32 -0500 (EST) From: "Louis J. LeBlanc" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.5 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at keyslapper.net Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-AntiVirus: Checked by Vexira Antivirus v1.5 Subject: Re: KDE 3.5 status? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: leblanc@keyslapper.net List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 15 Dec 2005 15:23:02 -0000 On Thu, December 15, 2005 10:12 am, Kirk Strauser wrote: > Does anybody know where I can find the status of porting KDE 3.5 to > FreeBSD? > -- > Kirk Strauser > Perhaps here: http://freebsd.kde.org/ I suspect it's already building on FreeBSD, and may already be in the ports. Try updating your ports directory, and if it's not there, you might try the port maintainer. HTH Lou --=20 Louis LeBlanc leblanc@keyslapper.net Fully Funded Hobbyist, KeySlapper Extrordinaire :=FE http://www.keyslapper.net =D4=BF=D4=AC From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Dec 15 15:42:26 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DC36816A41F for ; Thu, 15 Dec 2005 15:42:26 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from kirk@strauser.com) Received: from kanga.honeypot.net (kanga.honeypot.net [208.162.254.122]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2F11E43D90 for ; Thu, 15 Dec 2005 15:42:09 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from kirk@strauser.com) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by kanga.honeypot.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6206C99AFA for ; Thu, 15 Dec 2005 09:42:08 -0600 (CST) Received: from kanga.honeypot.net ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (kanga.honeypot.net [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 97581-18 for ; Thu, 15 Dec 2005 09:42:07 -0600 (CST) Received: from janus.daycos.com (janus.daycos.com [204.26.70.77]) (using TLSv1 with cipher RC4-MD5 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by kanga.honeypot.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4D7B7966BE for ; Thu, 15 Dec 2005 09:42:07 -0600 (CST) From: Kirk Strauser To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Thu, 15 Dec 2005 09:41:59 -0600 User-Agent: KMail/1.8.3 References: <200512150912.15860.kirk@strauser.com> <9415.38.112.155.126.1134659912.squirrel@www.keyslapper.net> In-Reply-To: <9415.38.112.155.126.1134659912.squirrel@www.keyslapper.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="nextPart3223786.5sq8uBIMya"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=pgp-sha1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <200512150942.01196.kirk@strauser.com> X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at honeypot.net Subject: Re: KDE 3.5 status? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 15 Dec 2005 15:42:27 -0000 --nextPart3223786.5sq8uBIMya Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline On Thursday 15 December 2005 09:18, Louis J. LeBlanc wrote: > Perhaps here: > http://freebsd.kde.org/ Nothing there... > Try updating your ports directory, and if it's not there, you might try > the port maintainer.=20 =2E..and it's not in ports yet. I'd rather the maintainer be spending his= =20 time on the port than answer my emails, so I'll go back to waiting=20 patiently. =2D-=20 Kirk Strauser --nextPart3223786.5sq8uBIMya Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iD8DBQBDoY7J5sRg+Y0CpvERAqFyAKCTIBXG6ydl3ZGMLFq1llj87MzLSQCgi6sk azVlywRNdNWHA8bafwUmXFA= =o87T -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --nextPart3223786.5sq8uBIMya-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Dec 15 15:50:16 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 09B2F16A41F for ; Thu, 15 Dec 2005 15:50:16 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from igorr@speechpro.com) Received: from speechpro.com (speech-tech-2.ip.PeterStar.net [81.3.190.130]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8380E43D6E for ; Thu, 15 Dec 2005 15:50:14 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from igorr@speechpro.com) Received: from sysadm.stc ([192.168.2.26]) by s1.stc with esmtp (Exim 4.53 (FreeBSD)) id 1EmvMx-000DI9-TA for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Thu, 15 Dec 2005 18:50:11 +0300 Received: from localhost.stc ([127.0.0.1] helo=sysadm.stc) by sysadm.stc with esmtp (Exim 4.54 (FreeBSD)) id 1EmvMS-0000RT-JH for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Thu, 15 Dec 2005 18:49:40 +0300 Received: (from igorr@localhost) by sysadm.stc (8.13.4/8.13.3/Submit) id jBFFnenf001702 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Thu, 15 Dec 2005 18:49:40 +0300 (MSK) (envelope-from igorr) Date: Thu, 15 Dec 2005 18:49:40 +0300 From: Igor Robul To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20051215154940.GL98760@sysadm.stc> References: <200512140207.44237.list-freebsd-2004@morbius.sent.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.11 X-Archived: Yes Subject: Re: pine X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 15 Dec 2005 15:50:16 -0000 On Wed, Dec 14, 2005 at 12:21:19PM -0800, Ted Mittelstaedt wrote: > The first thing you can do is go out and shoo the crackers > off the telephone pole who are tapped into your phone line > and sniffing your passwords. By the way, is there any relative cheap solution to do this? I mean we can record phone conversation, but how can we decode all this V.90, PPP, IP, TCP out of recorded audio? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Dec 15 15:56:16 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2EFAA16A420 for ; Thu, 15 Dec 2005 15:56:16 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from igorr@speechpro.com) Received: from speechpro.com (speech-tech-2.ip.PeterStar.net [81.3.190.130]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 03E3043D5A for ; Thu, 15 Dec 2005 15:56:14 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from igorr@speechpro.com) Received: from sysadm.stc ([192.168.2.26]) by s1.stc with esmtp (Exim 4.53 (FreeBSD)) id 1EmvSn-000DPZ-AO for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Thu, 15 Dec 2005 18:56:13 +0300 Received: from localhost.stc ([127.0.0.1] helo=sysadm.stc) by sysadm.stc with esmtp (Exim 4.54 (FreeBSD)) id 1EmvSI-0000SD-0L for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Thu, 15 Dec 2005 18:55:42 +0300 Received: (from igorr@localhost) by sysadm.stc (8.13.4/8.13.3/Submit) id jBFFtftV001748 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Thu, 15 Dec 2005 18:55:41 +0300 (MSK) (envelope-from igorr) Date: Thu, 15 Dec 2005 18:55:41 +0300 From: Igor Robul To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20051215155541.GM98760@sysadm.stc> References: <43A031B1.2030105@supsi.ch> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <43A031B1.2030105@supsi.ch> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.11 X-Archived: Yes Subject: Re: grub doesn't know ufs filesystem X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 15 Dec 2005 15:56:16 -0000 On Wed, Dec 14, 2005 at 03:52:33PM +0100, Roberto Nunnari wrote: > grub reported: > > Filesystem type unknown, partition type 0xa5 > > and thus cannot mount /boot/loader You are correct. Old versions of grub don't know about UFS2 filesystem. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Dec 15 15:56:44 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 824DB16A41F for ; Thu, 15 Dec 2005 15:56:44 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from wojtek@tensor.3miasto.net) Received: from chylonia.3miasto.net (chylonia.3miasto.net [213.192.74.6]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3E83443D5A for ; Thu, 15 Dec 2005 15:56:42 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from wojtek@tensor.3miasto.net) Received: from chylonia.3miasto.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by chylonia.3miasto.net (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id jBFFuPmr057266 for ; Thu, 15 Dec 2005 16:56:25 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wojtek@tensor.3miasto.net) Received: from localhost (wojtek@localhost) by chylonia.3miasto.net (8.13.4/8.13.4/Submit) with ESMTP id jBFFuPwM057263 for ; Thu, 15 Dec 2005 16:56:25 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wojtek@tensor.3miasto.net) X-Authentication-Warning: chylonia.3miasto.net: wojtek owned process doing -bs Date: Thu, 15 Dec 2005 16:56:25 +0100 (CET) From: Wojciech Puchar X-X-Sender: wojtek@chylonia.3miasto.net To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20051215165408.L56980@chylonia.3miasto.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Subject: dvdrecord? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 15 Dec 2005 15:56:44 -0000 why there is no dvdrecord in ports? it was available in NetBSD, and i used it for recording DVD-R? or maybe other tool? (but not growisofs that works good with DVD+R only) From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Dec 15 16:03:47 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 77B9416A41F for ; Thu, 15 Dec 2005 16:03:47 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: from rosebud.otenet.gr (rosebud.otenet.gr [195.170.0.94]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9EE0043D5C for ; Thu, 15 Dec 2005 16:03:45 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: from flame.pc (aris.bedc.ondsl.gr [62.103.39.226]) by rosebud.otenet.gr (8.13.4/8.13.4/Debian-8) with SMTP id jBFG3irQ030344; Thu, 15 Dec 2005 18:03:44 +0200 Received: by flame.pc (Postfix, from userid 1001) id AE3791146C; Thu, 15 Dec 2005 18:02:48 +0200 (EET) Date: Thu, 15 Dec 2005 18:02:48 +0200 From: Giorgos Keramidas To: Per olof Ljungmark Message-ID: <20051215160248.GA2929@flame.pc> References: <43A16686.3000903@intersonic.se> <20051215131909.GA2137@flame.pc> <43A17C49.4090808@intersonic.se> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <43A17C49.4090808@intersonic.se> Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: 6-STABLE buildworld error X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 15 Dec 2005 16:03:47 -0000 On 2005-12-15 15:23, Per olof Ljungmark wrote: >Giorgos Keramidas wrote: >>On 2005-12-15 13:50, Per olof Ljungmark wrote: >>> CVSUP to STABLE today and got the following result from a fresh 6.0 CD >>> install. >>> >>> FreeBSD 6.0-RELEASE #0: Thu Nov 3 09:36:13 UTC 2005 >>> root@x64.samsco.home:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC i386 >>> >>> [make -j4 buildworld] >> >> ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ >>> gzip -cn info-stnd.info > info-stnd.info.gz >>> gzip -cn texinfo.info > texinfo.info.gz >>> 1 error >>> *** Error code 2 >>> 1 error >>> *** Error code 2 >> >> Try again without -j4, as it tends to "hide" the real problem. > > Hmmm... "make buildworld" worked fine... You can always report this to Ruslan (ru at freebsd.org), but it's not a serious bug IMHO. Probably something related to the dependencies listed in the build makefiles. - Giorgos From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Dec 15 16:06:51 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EA9EA16A41F for ; Thu, 15 Dec 2005 16:06:51 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: from rosebud.otenet.gr (rosebud.otenet.gr [195.170.0.94]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3687E43D5F for ; Thu, 15 Dec 2005 16:06:50 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: from flame.pc (aris.bedc.ondsl.gr [62.103.39.226]) by rosebud.otenet.gr (8.13.4/8.13.4/Debian-8) with SMTP id jBFG6n3u032266; Thu, 15 Dec 2005 18:06:50 +0200 Received: by flame.pc (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 48AA211459; Thu, 15 Dec 2005 18:05:54 +0200 (EET) Date: Thu, 15 Dec 2005 18:05:54 +0200 From: Giorgos Keramidas To: Wojciech Puchar Message-ID: <20051215160554.GB2929@flame.pc> References: <20051215165408.L56980@chylonia.3miasto.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20051215165408.L56980@chylonia.3miasto.net> Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: dvdrecord? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 15 Dec 2005 16:06:52 -0000 On 2005-12-15 16:56, Wojciech Puchar wrote: > why there is no dvdrecord in ports? it was available in NetBSD, and i > used it for recording DVD-R? > > or maybe other tool? (but not growisofs that works good with DVD+R only) Note that I haven't recorded any DVD's yet, but: - Is burncd(8) not good enough? - If not, why? Soren Schmidt, who maintains burncd, can probably fix any problems you have with it, if you submit a bug report explaining why it doesn't work for you. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Dec 15 16:11:59 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7210A16A41F for ; Thu, 15 Dec 2005 16:11:59 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from wojtek@tensor.3miasto.net) Received: from chylonia.3miasto.net (chylonia.3miasto.net [213.192.74.6]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1350F43D5D for ; Thu, 15 Dec 2005 16:11:52 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from wojtek@tensor.3miasto.net) Received: from chylonia.3miasto.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by chylonia.3miasto.net (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id jBFGBL5L058867; Thu, 15 Dec 2005 17:11:21 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wojtek@tensor.3miasto.net) Received: from localhost (wojtek@localhost) by chylonia.3miasto.net (8.13.4/8.13.4/Submit) with ESMTP id jBFGBLJ4058864; Thu, 15 Dec 2005 17:11:21 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wojtek@tensor.3miasto.net) X-Authentication-Warning: chylonia.3miasto.net: wojtek owned process doing -bs Date: Thu, 15 Dec 2005 17:11:21 +0100 (CET) From: Wojciech Puchar X-X-Sender: wojtek@chylonia.3miasto.net To: Giorgos Keramidas In-Reply-To: <20051215160554.GB2929@flame.pc> Message-ID: <20051215171046.S58773@chylonia.3miasto.net> References: <20051215165408.L56980@chylonia.3miasto.net> <20051215160554.GB2929@flame.pc> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: dvdrecord? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 15 Dec 2005 16:11:59 -0000 >> used it for recording DVD-R? >> >> or maybe other tool? (but not growisofs that works good with DVD+R only) > > Note that I haven't recorded any DVD's yet, but: > > - Is burncd(8) not good enough? yes > - If not, why? because it burns only CDs not DVDs, at least as Soren stated. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Dec 15 16:12:07 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BF16116A420 for ; Thu, 15 Dec 2005 16:12:07 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from algould@datawok.com) Received: from smtpauth09.mail.atl.earthlink.net (smtpauth09.mail.atl.earthlink.net [209.86.89.69]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E8A2043D8D for ; Thu, 15 Dec 2005 16:11:59 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from algould@datawok.com) Received: from [206.255.31.21] (helo=grokwell.org) by smtpauth09.mail.atl.earthlink.net with asmtp (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.34) id 1Emvho-0007so-Q3; Thu, 15 Dec 2005 11:11:45 -0500 Date: Thu, 15 Dec 2005 10:08:35 -0600 From: "Andrew L. Gould" To: Wojciech Puchar Message-ID: <20051215100835.1be39852@grokwell.org> In-Reply-To: <20051215165408.L56980@chylonia.3miasto.net> References: <20051215165408.L56980@chylonia.3miasto.net> X-Mailer: Sylpheed-Claws 1.9.13 (GTK+ 2.6.9; i386-portbld-freebsd6.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-ELNK-Trace: ee791d459e3d6817d780f4a490ca69563f9fea00a6dd62bc8333f671d187d7312b889cbe54d4b6ac350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c X-Originating-IP: 206.255.31.21 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: dvdrecord? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 15 Dec 2005 16:12:07 -0000 On Thu, 15 Dec 2005 16:56:25 +0100 (CET) Wojciech Puchar wrote: > why there is no dvdrecord in ports? it was available in NetBSD, and i > used it for recording DVD-R? > > or maybe other tool? (but not growisofs that works good with DVD+R > only) _______________________________________________ I use growisofs to burn database backup files to DVD-R on a regular basis. The port name, dvd+rw-tools, is a little misleading in this regard. Andrew From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Dec 15 16:25:08 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 278C616A41F for ; Thu, 15 Dec 2005 16:25:08 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from wojtek@tensor.3miasto.net) Received: from chylonia.3miasto.net (chylonia.3miasto.net [213.192.74.6]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EE39743D77 for ; Thu, 15 Dec 2005 16:25:06 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from wojtek@tensor.3miasto.net) Received: from chylonia.3miasto.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by chylonia.3miasto.net (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id jBFGOlfp059967; Thu, 15 Dec 2005 17:24:47 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wojtek@tensor.3miasto.net) Received: from localhost (wojtek@localhost) by chylonia.3miasto.net (8.13.4/8.13.4/Submit) with ESMTP id jBFGOkXa059964; Thu, 15 Dec 2005 17:24:46 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wojtek@tensor.3miasto.net) X-Authentication-Warning: chylonia.3miasto.net: wojtek owned process doing -bs Date: Thu, 15 Dec 2005 17:24:46 +0100 (CET) From: Wojciech Puchar X-X-Sender: wojtek@chylonia.3miasto.net To: "Andrew L. Gould" In-Reply-To: <20051215100835.1be39852@grokwell.org> Message-ID: <20051215172055.K59617@chylonia.3miasto.net> References: <20051215165408.L56980@chylonia.3miasto.net> <20051215100835.1be39852@grokwell.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: dvdrecord? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 15 Dec 2005 16:25:08 -0000 >> or maybe other tool? (but not growisofs that works good with DVD+R >> only) _______________________________________________ > > I use growisofs to burn database backup files to DVD-R on a regular > basis. The port name, dvd+rw-tools, is a little misleading in this > regard. > i'n now writing DVD-R from image with it, now 800MB and still going. anyway it can't record DVD-R from pipe, and can't have extra RAM buffer. dvdrecord CAN write from pipe in -dao mode if size is entered in options i were using that script: mkisofs -rq -jcharset iso8859-2 . 2>/dev/null| \ dvdrecord $* -v tsize=`mkisofs -rq -jcharset iso8859-2 --print-size .`x2k \ -delay=5 driveropts=burnfree -dao - to write directly files in dao mode to DVD-R. now i'm unable to do it. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Dec 15 16:40:07 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BA42516A41F for ; Thu, 15 Dec 2005 16:40:07 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: from rosebud.otenet.gr (rosebud.otenet.gr [195.170.0.94]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 816CB43D62 for ; Thu, 15 Dec 2005 16:40:06 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: from flame.pc (aris.bedc.ondsl.gr [62.103.39.226]) by rosebud.otenet.gr (8.13.4/8.13.4/Debian-8) with SMTP id jBFGe4gP022842; Thu, 15 Dec 2005 18:40:04 +0200 Received: by flame.pc (Postfix, from userid 1001) id C1C0211459; Thu, 15 Dec 2005 18:39:08 +0200 (EET) Date: Thu, 15 Dec 2005 18:39:08 +0200 From: Giorgos Keramidas To: Wojciech Puchar Message-ID: <20051215163908.GA3347@flame.pc> References: <20051215165408.L56980@chylonia.3miasto.net> <20051215160554.GB2929@flame.pc> <20051215171046.S58773@chylonia.3miasto.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20051215171046.S58773@chylonia.3miasto.net> Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: dvdrecord? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 15 Dec 2005 16:40:07 -0000 On 2005-12-15 17:11, Wojciech Puchar wrote: > >>used it for recording DVD-R? > >> > >>or maybe other tool? (but not growisofs that works good with DVD+R only) > > > >Note that I haven't recorded any DVD's yet, but: > > > > - Is burncd(8) not good enough? > > yes > > > - If not, why? > > because it burns only CDs not DVDs, at least as Soren stated. I may be very wrong, but the manpage in CURRENT (and 6.0-RELEASE) says, among other things: dvdrw Set the write mode to write a DVD+RW from the following image. DVDs only have one track. I'll have to test it and see how things work. A friend whom I asked just a few minutes ago says that he's only ever used growisofs for recording DVDs. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Dec 15 16:41:49 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 534F416A41F for ; Thu, 15 Dec 2005 16:41:49 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from wojtek@tensor.3miasto.net) Received: from chylonia.3miasto.net (chylonia.3miasto.net [213.192.74.6]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 79DAA43D5F for ; Thu, 15 Dec 2005 16:41:48 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from wojtek@tensor.3miasto.net) Received: from chylonia.3miasto.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by chylonia.3miasto.net (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id jBFGfY4K061800; Thu, 15 Dec 2005 17:41:34 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wojtek@tensor.3miasto.net) Received: from localhost (wojtek@localhost) by chylonia.3miasto.net (8.13.4/8.13.4/Submit) with ESMTP id jBFGfYjp061797; Thu, 15 Dec 2005 17:41:34 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wojtek@tensor.3miasto.net) X-Authentication-Warning: chylonia.3miasto.net: wojtek owned process doing -bs Date: Thu, 15 Dec 2005 17:41:34 +0100 (CET) From: Wojciech Puchar X-X-Sender: wojtek@chylonia.3miasto.net To: Giorgos Keramidas In-Reply-To: <20051215163908.GA3347@flame.pc> Message-ID: <20051215174121.A61717@chylonia.3miasto.net> References: <20051215165408.L56980@chylonia.3miasto.net> <20051215160554.GB2929@flame.pc> <20051215171046.S58773@chylonia.3miasto.net> <20051215163908.GA3347@flame.pc> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: dvdrecord? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 15 Dec 2005 16:41:49 -0000 > I may be very wrong, but the manpage in CURRENT (and 6.0-RELEASE) says, > among other things: > > dvdrw Set the write mode to write a DVD+RW from the following > image. DVDs only have one track. > +RW i mean -R From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Dec 15 16:43:00 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3F38E16A41F for ; Thu, 15 Dec 2005 16:43:00 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from marc@blackend.org) Received: from abigail.blackend.org (blackend.org [212.11.35.229]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5F08043D6D for ; Thu, 15 Dec 2005 16:42:54 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from marc@blackend.org) Received: from gothic.blackend.org (gothic.blackend.org [192.168.1.203]) by abigail.blackend.org (8.13.3/8.13.3) with ESMTP id jBFGgTRq055168; Thu, 15 Dec 2005 17:42:29 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from marc@abigail.blackend.org) Received: from gothic.blackend.org (localhost.blackend.org [127.0.0.1]) by gothic.blackend.org (8.13.4/8.13.3) with ESMTP id jBFGgTHZ001591; Thu, 15 Dec 2005 17:42:29 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from marc@gothic.blackend.org) Received: (from marc@localhost) by gothic.blackend.org (8.13.4/8.13.3/Submit) id jBFGgBDG001590; Thu, 15 Dec 2005 17:42:11 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from marc) Date: Thu, 15 Dec 2005 17:42:10 +0100 From: Marc Fonvieille To: Wojciech Puchar Message-ID: <20051215164210.GA731@gothic.blackend.org> References: <20051215165408.L56980@chylonia.3miasto.net> <20051215100835.1be39852@grokwell.org> <20051215172055.K59617@chylonia.3miasto.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="3V7upXqbjpZ4EhLz" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20051215172055.K59617@chylonia.3miasto.net> X-Useless-Header: blackend.org X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 6.0-STABLE User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.11 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: dvdrecord? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 15 Dec 2005 16:43:00 -0000 --3V7upXqbjpZ4EhLz Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Thu, Dec 15, 2005 at 05:24:46PM +0100, Wojciech Puchar wrote: > >>or maybe other tool? (but not growisofs that works good with DVD+R > >>only) _______________________________________________ > > > >I use growisofs to burn database backup files to DVD-R on a regular > >basis. The port name, dvd+rw-tools, is a little misleading in this > >regard. > > > i'n now writing DVD-R from image with it, now 800MB and still going. > anyway it can't record DVD-R from pipe, and can't have extra RAM buffer. >=20 > dvdrecord CAN write from pipe in -dao mode if size is entered in options >=20 > i were using that script: >=20 > mkisofs -rq -jcharset iso8859-2 . 2>/dev/null| \ > dvdrecord $* -v tsize=3D`mkisofs -rq -jcharset iso8859-2 --print-size .`= x2k \ > -delay=3D5 driveropts=3Dburnfree -dao - > [...] Well, does it really beat a=20 growisofs -dvd-compat -Z /dev/cd0 -J -R /path/to/yourdata (which works fine with -/+R)? Marc --3V7upXqbjpZ4EhLz Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.0 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFDoZzhzQ9RwE+OdOgRAio2AJwMxcwse5ACxahzFQz71ozUfl4ygACdEYA5 4XId/SNjufPMS8tm7oaEt44= =HBNC -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --3V7upXqbjpZ4EhLz-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Dec 15 16:46:54 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 85EF916A41F for ; Thu, 15 Dec 2005 16:46:54 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from cswiger@mac.com) Received: from pi.codefab.com (pi.codefab.com [199.103.21.227]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5C0F243D5A for ; Thu, 15 Dec 2005 16:46:53 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from cswiger@mac.com) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pi.codefab.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 69A8C5D6D; Thu, 15 Dec 2005 11:46:52 -0500 (EST) Received: from pi.codefab.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (pi.codefab.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 43504-10; Thu, 15 Dec 2005 11:46:50 -0500 (EST) Received: from [192.168.1.3] (pool-68-161-122-227.ny325.east.verizon.net [68.161.122.227]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by pi.codefab.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B37895D4E; Thu, 15 Dec 2005 11:46:49 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <43A19DFE.40300@mac.com> Date: Thu, 15 Dec 2005 11:46:54 -0500 From: Chuck Swiger Organization: The Courts of Chaos User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.7 (Windows/20050923) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Wojciech Puchar References: <20051215165408.L56980@chylonia.3miasto.net> <20051215100835.1be39852@grokwell.org> <20051215172055.K59617@chylonia.3miasto.net> In-Reply-To: <20051215172055.K59617@chylonia.3miasto.net> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.93.0.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at codefab.com Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: dvdrecord? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 15 Dec 2005 16:46:54 -0000 Wojciech Puchar wrote: [ ... ] >> I use growisofs to burn database backup files to DVD-R on a regular >> basis. The port name, dvd+rw-tools, is a little misleading in this >> regard. >> > i'n now writing DVD-R from image with it, now 800MB and still going. > anyway it can't record DVD-R from pipe, and can't have extra RAM buffer. > > dvdrecord CAN write from pipe in -dao mode if size is entered in options > > i were using that script: > > mkisofs -rq -jcharset iso8859-2 . 2>/dev/null| \ > dvdrecord $* -v tsize=`mkisofs -rq -jcharset iso8859-2 --print-size .` > x2k -delay=5 driveropts=burnfree -dao - > > to write directly files in dao mode to DVD-R. On burners which do not have buffer-underrun correction capabilities (ie, "BurnProof", "JustLink", etc), trying to create the ISO image on the fly and pipe it to the burning process can result in coasters. YMMV, but I prefer to create the .ISO image seperately, and confirm it contains what I think it should contain seperately, before trying to burn it. However, there's room for more tools in ports, so if you like dvdrecord enough to want to use it under FreeBSD, why not port it yourself? -- -Chuck From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Dec 15 16:49:13 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 01EAD16A420 for ; Thu, 15 Dec 2005 16:49:13 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from kline@tao.thought.org) Received: from tao.thought.org (dsl231-043-140.sea1.dsl.speakeasy.net [216.231.43.140]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7061343D46 for ; Thu, 15 Dec 2005 16:49:07 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from kline@tao.thought.org) Received: from tao.thought.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by tao.thought.org (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id jBFGmuQI050166; Thu, 15 Dec 2005 08:48:57 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from kline@tao.thought.org) Received: (from kline@localhost) by tao.thought.org (8.13.1/8.13.1/Submit) id jBFGmt1A050165; Thu, 15 Dec 2005 08:48:55 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from kline) Date: Thu, 15 Dec 2005 08:48:55 -0800 From: Gary Kline To: Gary Kline , FreeBSD Mailing List Message-ID: <20051215164855.GA50051@thought.org> References: <20051215021641.GA45523@thought.org> <20051215105042.GC91015@slackbox.xs4all.nl> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20051215105042.GC91015@slackbox.xs4all.nl> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i X-Organization: Thought Unlimited. Public service Unix since 1986. X-Of_Interest: Observing 19 years of service to the Unix community Cc: Subject: Re: this AMD motherboard? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 15 Dec 2005 16:49:13 -0000 On Thu, Dec 15, 2005 at 11:50:42AM +0100, Roland Smith wrote: > On Wed, Dec 14, 2005 at 06:16:41PM -0800, Gary Kline wrote: > > Can anyone tell if the graphics chips on this card will work > > with X? > > > http://www.ecs.com.tw/ECSWeb/Products/ProductsDetail.aspx?DetailID=422&MenuID=24&LanID=9 > > Looks like it will work: > http://www.winischhofer.at/linuxsispart1.shtml#12 On the specs sheet URL I see "Sis Real256E 2D/3D"; I don't see the same designation on the winischhofer.at page. What am I missing? gary > > Roland > -- > R.F.Smith (http://www.xs4all.nl/~rsmith/) Please send e-mail as plain text. > public key: http://www.xs4all.nl/~rsmith/pubkey.txt -- Gary Kline kline@thought.org www.thought.org Public service Unix From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Dec 15 16:56:54 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7977B16A41F for ; Thu, 15 Dec 2005 16:56:54 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from algould@datawok.com) Received: from smtpauth08.mail.atl.earthlink.net (smtpauth08.mail.atl.earthlink.net [209.86.89.68]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BE45443D6A for ; Thu, 15 Dec 2005 16:56:52 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from algould@datawok.com) Received: from [206.255.31.21] (helo=grokwell.org) by smtpauth08.mail.atl.earthlink.net with asmtp (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.34) id 1EmwPE-00027M-Tp; Thu, 15 Dec 2005 11:56:37 -0500 Date: Thu, 15 Dec 2005 10:53:27 -0600 From: "Andrew L. Gould" To: Wojciech Puchar Message-ID: <20051215105327.49fc1996@grokwell.org> In-Reply-To: <20051215172055.K59617@chylonia.3miasto.net> References: <20051215165408.L56980@chylonia.3miasto.net> <20051215100835.1be39852@grokwell.org> <20051215172055.K59617@chylonia.3miasto.net> X-Mailer: Sylpheed-Claws 1.9.13 (GTK+ 2.6.9; i386-portbld-freebsd6.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-ELNK-Trace: ee791d459e3d6817d780f4a490ca69563f9fea00a6dd62bc8e1a36387cbd66072c7bd8ab4bb681cd350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c X-Originating-IP: 206.255.31.21 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: dvdrecord? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 15 Dec 2005 16:56:54 -0000 On Thu, 15 Dec 2005 17:24:46 +0100 (CET) Wojciech Puchar wrote: > >> or maybe other tool? (but not growisofs that works good with DVD+R > >> only) _______________________________________________ > > > > I use growisofs to burn database backup files to DVD-R on a regular > > basis. The port name, dvd+rw-tools, is a little misleading in this > > regard. > > > i'n now writing DVD-R from image with it, now 800MB and still going. > anyway it can't record DVD-R from pipe, and can't have extra RAM > buffer. > > dvdrecord CAN write from pipe in -dao mode if size is entered in > options > > i were using that script: > > mkisofs -rq -jcharset iso8859-2 . 2>/dev/null| \ > dvdrecord $* -v tsize=`mkisofs -rq -jcharset iso8859-2 > --print-size .`x2k \ -delay=5 driveropts=burnfree -dao - > > to write directly files in dao mode to DVD-R. > > now i'm unable to do it. Growisofs can burn iso images or use mkisofs internally to burn datafiles directly to the DVD-/+R. In the "Examples" section of the growisofs man page, you will find the following: "To master and burn an ISO9660 volume with Joliet and Rock-Ridge extensions on a DVD: growisofs -Z /dev/dvd -R -J /some/files To append more data to same DVD: growisofs -M /dev/dvd -R -J /more/files" "To use growisofs to write a pre-mastered ISO-image to a DVD: growisofs -dvd-compat -Z /dev/dvd=image.iso" Andrew From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Dec 15 17:10:11 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4131016A41F; Thu, 15 Dec 2005 17:10:11 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from wojtek@tensor.3miasto.net) Received: from chylonia.3miasto.net (chylonia.3miasto.net [213.192.74.6]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7CFD243D5A; Thu, 15 Dec 2005 17:10:09 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from wojtek@tensor.3miasto.net) Received: from chylonia.3miasto.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by chylonia.3miasto.net (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id jBFH9f8e064381; Thu, 15 Dec 2005 18:09:41 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wojtek@tensor.3miasto.net) Received: from localhost (wojtek@localhost) by chylonia.3miasto.net (8.13.4/8.13.4/Submit) with ESMTP id jBFH9ePU064378; Thu, 15 Dec 2005 18:09:40 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wojtek@tensor.3miasto.net) X-Authentication-Warning: chylonia.3miasto.net: wojtek owned process doing -bs Date: Thu, 15 Dec 2005 18:09:40 +0100 (CET) From: Wojciech Puchar X-X-Sender: wojtek@chylonia.3miasto.net To: Marc Fonvieille In-Reply-To: <20051215164210.GA731@gothic.blackend.org> Message-ID: <20051215180913.I64302@chylonia.3miasto.net> References: <20051215165408.L56980@chylonia.3miasto.net> <20051215100835.1be39852@grokwell.org> <20051215172055.K59617@chylonia.3miasto.net> <20051215164210.GA731@gothic.blackend.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: dvdrecord? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 15 Dec 2005 17:10:11 -0000 >> -delay=5 driveropts=burnfree -dao - >> > [...] > > Well, does it really beat a > growisofs -dvd-compat -Z /dev/cd0 -J -R /path/to/yourdata > (which works fine with -/+R)? are you sure it works with -R? manual says that only images can be recorded with DVD-R From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Dec 15 17:11:40 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E9EDB16A41F for ; Thu, 15 Dec 2005 17:11:40 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from wojtek@tensor.3miasto.net) Received: from chylonia.3miasto.net (chylonia.3miasto.net [213.192.74.6]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2725D43D68 for ; Thu, 15 Dec 2005 17:11:24 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from wojtek@tensor.3miasto.net) Received: from chylonia.3miasto.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by chylonia.3miasto.net (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id jBFHB0IG064486; Thu, 15 Dec 2005 18:11:00 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wojtek@tensor.3miasto.net) Received: from localhost (wojtek@localhost) by chylonia.3miasto.net (8.13.4/8.13.4/Submit) with ESMTP id jBFHB0l4064483; Thu, 15 Dec 2005 18:11:00 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wojtek@tensor.3miasto.net) X-Authentication-Warning: chylonia.3miasto.net: wojtek owned process doing -bs Date: Thu, 15 Dec 2005 18:11:00 +0100 (CET) From: Wojciech Puchar X-X-Sender: wojtek@chylonia.3miasto.net To: Chuck Swiger In-Reply-To: <43A19DFE.40300@mac.com> Message-ID: <20051215180950.N64302@chylonia.3miasto.net> References: <20051215165408.L56980@chylonia.3miasto.net> <20051215100835.1be39852@grokwell.org> <20051215172055.K59617@chylonia.3miasto.net> <43A19DFE.40300@mac.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: dvdrecord? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 15 Dec 2005 17:11:41 -0000 > On burners which do not have buffer-underrun correction capabilities (ie, > "BurnProof", "JustLink", etc), trying to create the ISO image on the fly and > pipe it to the burning process can result in coasters. YMMV, but I prefer to ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ anyway - it may not :) already recorded 800 DVD's without single failed. > However, there's room for more tools in ports, so if you like dvdrecord enough > to want to use it under FreeBSD, why not port it yourself? > because i'm asking why it wasn't first - i'm sure that there are many people who needs this From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Dec 15 17:12:06 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B749E16A41F for ; Thu, 15 Dec 2005 17:12:06 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from wojtek@tensor.3miasto.net) Received: from chylonia.3miasto.net (chylonia.3miasto.net [213.192.74.6]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 213EC43D5F for ; Thu, 15 Dec 2005 17:12:04 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from wojtek@tensor.3miasto.net) Received: from chylonia.3miasto.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by chylonia.3miasto.net (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id jBFHBi26064605; Thu, 15 Dec 2005 18:11:44 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wojtek@tensor.3miasto.net) Received: from localhost (wojtek@localhost) by chylonia.3miasto.net (8.13.4/8.13.4/Submit) with ESMTP id jBFHBiOD064602; Thu, 15 Dec 2005 18:11:44 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wojtek@tensor.3miasto.net) X-Authentication-Warning: chylonia.3miasto.net: wojtek owned process doing -bs Date: Thu, 15 Dec 2005 18:11:44 +0100 (CET) From: Wojciech Puchar X-X-Sender: wojtek@chylonia.3miasto.net To: "Andrew L. Gould" In-Reply-To: <20051215105327.49fc1996@grokwell.org> Message-ID: <20051215181116.D64302@chylonia.3miasto.net> References: <20051215165408.L56980@chylonia.3miasto.net> <20051215100835.1be39852@grokwell.org> <20051215172055.K59617@chylonia.3miasto.net> <20051215105327.49fc1996@grokwell.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: dvdrecord? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 15 Dec 2005 17:12:06 -0000 > extensions on a DVD: > growisofs -Z /dev/dvd -R -J /some/files > > To append more data to same DVD: > growisofs -M /dev/dvd -R -J /more/files" > > "To use growisofs to write a pre-mastered ISO-image to a DVD: > growisofs -dvd-compat -Z /dev/dvd=image.iso" > > Andrew > > i will try it. maybe... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Dec 15 17:20:13 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 31BD816A42C for ; Thu, 15 Dec 2005 17:20:13 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from dev@unixdaemon.org) Received: from knife.dreamhost.com (knife.dreamhost.com [66.33.219.6]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CEF7643D83 for ; Thu, 15 Dec 2005 17:20:04 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from dev@unixdaemon.org) Received: from dracula (cpe-24-24-83-9.stny.res.rr.com [24.24.83.9]) by knife.dreamhost.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 40B30FB625; Thu, 15 Dec 2005 09:19:58 -0800 (PST) From: Dev Tugnait To: Wojciech Puchar In-Reply-To: <20051215180913.I64302@chylonia.3miasto.net> References: <20051215165408.L56980@chylonia.3miasto.net> <20051215100835.1be39852@grokwell.org> <20051215172055.K59617@chylonia.3miasto.net> <20051215164210.GA731@gothic.blackend.org> <20051215180913.I64302@chylonia.3miasto.net> Content-Type: text/plain Date: Thu, 15 Dec 2005 12:19:50 -0500 Message-Id: <1134667190.21995.6.camel@dracula> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.4.2.1 FreeBSD GNOME Team Port Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: dvdrecord? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: dev@unixdaemon.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 15 Dec 2005 17:20:13 -0000 On Thu, 2005-12-15 at 18:09 +0100, Wojciech Puchar wrote: > >> -delay=5 driveropts=burnfree -dao - > >> > > [...] > > > > Well, does it really beat a > > growisofs -dvd-compat -Z /dev/cd0 -J -R /path/to/yourdata > > (which works fine with -/+R)? > > are you sure it works with -R? "To use growisofs to write a pre-mastered ISO-image to a DVD: growisofs -dvd-compat -Z /dev/dvd=image.iso" What is this long discussion for? Instead of attempting to burn a disc you're asking the same questions repeatedly. For the last time yes it can burn -/+/+RW/-RW > > manual says that only images can be recorded with DVD-R > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" -- Dev Tugnait From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Dec 15 17:20:47 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C66A016A41F for ; Thu, 15 Dec 2005 17:20:47 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from marc@blackend.org) Received: from abigail.blackend.org (blackend.org [212.11.35.229]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4F1CA43D81 for ; Thu, 15 Dec 2005 17:20:35 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from marc@blackend.org) Received: from gothic.blackend.org (gothic.blackend.org [192.168.1.203]) by abigail.blackend.org (8.13.3/8.13.3) with ESMTP id jBFHKX8q055872; Thu, 15 Dec 2005 18:20:34 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from marc@abigail.blackend.org) Received: from gothic.blackend.org (localhost.blackend.org [127.0.0.1]) by gothic.blackend.org (8.13.4/8.13.3) with ESMTP id jBFHKXZs001699; Thu, 15 Dec 2005 18:20:33 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from marc@gothic.blackend.org) Received: (from marc@localhost) by gothic.blackend.org (8.13.4/8.13.3/Submit) id jBFHKX5g001698; Thu, 15 Dec 2005 18:20:33 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from marc) Date: Thu, 15 Dec 2005 18:20:33 +0100 From: Marc Fonvieille To: Wojciech Puchar Message-ID: <20051215172033.GB731@gothic.blackend.org> References: <20051215165408.L56980@chylonia.3miasto.net> <20051215100835.1be39852@grokwell.org> <20051215172055.K59617@chylonia.3miasto.net> <20051215164210.GA731@gothic.blackend.org> <20051215180913.I64302@chylonia.3miasto.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="MW5yreqqjyrRcusr" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20051215180913.I64302@chylonia.3miasto.net> X-Useless-Header: blackend.org X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 6.0-STABLE User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.11 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: dvdrecord? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 15 Dec 2005 17:20:47 -0000 --MW5yreqqjyrRcusr Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Thu, Dec 15, 2005 at 06:09:40PM +0100, Wojciech Puchar wrote: > >> -delay=3D5 driveropts=3Dburnfree -dao - > >> > >[...] > > > >Well, does it really beat a > >growisofs -dvd-compat -Z /dev/cd0 -J -R /path/to/yourdata > >(which works fine with -/+R)? >=20 > are you sure it works with -R? >=20 I'm sure of it. > manual says that only images can be recorded with DVD-R where? The only problems I'm aware are documented at http://fy.chalmers.se/~appro/linux/DVD+RW/hcn.html Marc --MW5yreqqjyrRcusr Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.0 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFDoaXgzQ9RwE+OdOgRAisAAJ0aHU+WjqMkIylaT6sGh1WkrBuDQQCdE4SP 6ScWmTml88G/rJO7ROy0C1A= =n2Bg -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --MW5yreqqjyrRcusr-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Dec 15 17:25:20 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EC83116A41F for ; Thu, 15 Dec 2005 17:25:20 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from freebsd@voidmain.net) Received: from colossus.nepinc.com (colossus.nepinc.com [66.207.129.52]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 63A9D43D76 for ; Thu, 15 Dec 2005 17:25:19 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from freebsd@voidmain.net) Received: from [192.168.97.98] (pgh.nepinc.com [66.207.129.50]) (authenticated bits=0) by colossus.nepinc.com (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id jBFHQmkC058956 for ; Thu, 15 Dec 2005 12:26:48 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from freebsd@voidmain.net) Message-ID: <43A1A6F5.5090308@voidmain.net> Date: Thu, 15 Dec 2005 12:25:09 -0500 From: Tom Grove User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.7 (X11/20051201) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.6 required=4.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=3.1.0 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.0 (2005-09-13) on colossus.nepinc.com X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV 0.87/1209/Mon Dec 12 10:48:01 2005 on colossus.nepinc.com X-Virus-Status: Clean Cc: Subject: Sasl Help X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd@voidmain.net List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 15 Dec 2005 17:25:21 -0000 has anyone ever seen this error? why would this be happening? "unknown authentication mechanism: sasldb" -tom From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Dec 15 17:25:52 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 041C516A41F for ; Thu, 15 Dec 2005 17:25:52 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from rsmith@xs4all.nl) Received: from smtp-vbr12.xs4all.nl (smtp-vbr12.xs4all.nl [194.109.24.32]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F2C3943D7E for ; Thu, 15 Dec 2005 17:25:39 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from rsmith@xs4all.nl) Received: from slackbox.xs4all.nl (slackbox.xs4all.nl [213.84.242.160]) by smtp-vbr12.xs4all.nl (8.13.3/8.13.3) with ESMTP id jBFHPaCM064499; Thu, 15 Dec 2005 18:25:37 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from rsmith@xs4all.nl) Received: by slackbox.xs4all.nl (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 7C986B829; Thu, 15 Dec 2005 18:25:36 +0100 (CET) Date: Thu, 15 Dec 2005 18:25:36 +0100 From: Roland Smith To: Gary Kline Message-ID: <20051215172536.GA4644@slackbox.xs4all.nl> Mail-Followup-To: Gary Kline , FreeBSD Mailing List References: <20051215021641.GA45523@thought.org> <20051215105042.GC91015@slackbox.xs4all.nl> <20051215164855.GA50051@thought.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="cNdxnHkX5QqsyA0e" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20051215164855.GA50051@thought.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i X-GPG-Fingerprint: 1A2B 477F 9970 BA3C 2914 B7CE 1277 EFB0 C321 A725 X-GPG-Key: http://www.xs4all.nl/~rsmith/pubkey.txt X-GPG-Notice: If this message is not signed, don't assume I sent it! X-Virus-Scanned: by XS4ALL Virus Scanner Cc: FreeBSD Mailing List Subject: Re: this AMD motherboard? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 15 Dec 2005 17:25:52 -0000 --cNdxnHkX5QqsyA0e Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Thu, Dec 15, 2005 at 08:48:55AM -0800, Gary Kline wrote: > On Thu, Dec 15, 2005 at 11:50:42AM +0100, Roland Smith wrote: > > On Wed, Dec 14, 2005 at 06:16:41PM -0800, Gary Kline wrote: > > > Can anyone tell if the graphics chips on this card will work > > > with X? > > > > > http://www.ecs.com.tw/ECSWeb/Products/ProductsDetail.aspx?DetailID=3D= 422&MenuID=3D24&LanID=3D9 > >=20 > > Looks like it will work: > > http://www.winischhofer.at/linuxsispart1.shtml#12 >=20 > On the specs sheet URL I see "Sis Real256E 2D/3D"; I don't see the > same designation on the winischhofer.at page. What am I missing? I quote from section 2: "Finally, "Real256", "Ultra256" and "Mirage" are marketing names for the 3D engines of the 661, 741, 760 and 761." Roland --=20 R.F.Smith (http://www.xs4all.nl/~rsmith/) Please send e-mail as plain text. public key: http://www.xs4all.nl/~rsmith/pubkey.txt --cNdxnHkX5QqsyA0e Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.2 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFDoacQEnfvsMMhpyURAoCpAKCiISD72B+3j8ZocpMhY0zswbcFsgCeOHPY 5T7SdUh9hggtsvRhhDFhdO0= =JdQL -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --cNdxnHkX5QqsyA0e-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Dec 15 17:30:09 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 08F3616A422 for ; Thu, 15 Dec 2005 17:30:09 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from fbsd-ml@scrapper.ca) Received: from pd2mo2so.prod.shaw.ca (shawidc-mo1.cg.shawcable.net [24.71.223.10]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3CD5F43D45 for ; Thu, 15 Dec 2005 17:30:07 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from fbsd-ml@scrapper.ca) Received: from pd4mr1so.prod.shaw.ca (pd4mr1so-qfe3.prod.shaw.ca [10.0.141.212]) by l-daemon (Sun ONE Messaging Server 6.0 HotFix 1.01 (built Mar 15 2004)) with ESMTP id <0IRJ00LM1VA6GAB0@l-daemon> for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Thu, 15 Dec 2005 10:30:06 -0700 (MST) Received: from pn2ml2so.prod.shaw.ca ([10.0.121.146]) by pd4mr1so.prod.shaw.ca (Sun ONE Messaging Server 6.0 HotFix 1.01 (built Mar 15 2004)) with ESMTP id <0IRJ009JVVA56R10@pd4mr1so.prod.shaw.ca> for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Thu, 15 Dec 2005 10:30:05 -0700 (MST) Received: from proven.lan ([24.85.249.204]) by l-daemon (Sun ONE Messaging Server 6.0 HotFix 1.01 (built Mar 15 2004)) with ESMTP id <0IRJ008OYVA584S0@l-daemon> for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Thu, 15 Dec 2005 10:30:05 -0700 (MST) Received: from proven.lan (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by proven.lan (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id jBFHU5KZ075947; Thu, 15 Dec 2005 09:30:05 -0800 (PST envelope-from fbsd-ml@scrapper.ca) Received: from localhost (localhost [[UNIX: localhost]]) by proven.lan (8.13.4/8.13.4/Submit) id jBFHU4wM075946; Thu, 15 Dec 2005 09:30:04 -0800 (PST envelope-from fbsd-ml@scrapper.ca) Date: Thu, 15 Dec 2005 09:30:03 -0800 From: Norbert Papke In-reply-to: <200512150912.15860.kirk@strauser.com> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-id: <200512150930.04525.fbsd-ml@scrapper.ca> Organization: Archaeological Filing MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Content-disposition: inline References: <200512150912.15860.kirk@strauser.com> X-Authentication-warning: proven.lan: npapke set sender to fbsd-ml@scrapper.ca using -f User-Agent: KMail/1.8.3 Cc: Subject: Re: KDE 3.5 status? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 15 Dec 2005 17:30:09 -0000 On December 15, 2005 07:12 am, Kirk Strauser wrote: > Does anybody know where I can find the status of porting KDE 3.5 to > FreeBSD? Please see http://frontrangebsd.org/pipermail/kde-freebsd/2005-December/011800.html Cheers. -- Norbert. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Dec 15 17:45:46 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2A2B716A41F for ; Thu, 15 Dec 2005 17:45:46 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from wojtek@tensor.3miasto.net) Received: from chylonia.3miasto.net (chylonia.3miasto.net [213.192.74.6]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C972743D58 for ; Thu, 15 Dec 2005 17:45:41 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from wojtek@tensor.3miasto.net) Received: from chylonia.3miasto.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by chylonia.3miasto.net (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id jBFHjS94068004; Thu, 15 Dec 2005 18:45:28 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wojtek@tensor.3miasto.net) Received: from localhost (wojtek@localhost) by chylonia.3miasto.net (8.13.4/8.13.4/Submit) with ESMTP id jBFHjSmF068001; Thu, 15 Dec 2005 18:45:28 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wojtek@tensor.3miasto.net) X-Authentication-Warning: chylonia.3miasto.net: wojtek owned process doing -bs Date: Thu, 15 Dec 2005 18:45:27 +0100 (CET) From: Wojciech Puchar X-X-Sender: wojtek@chylonia.3miasto.net To: Dev Tugnait In-Reply-To: <1134667190.21995.6.camel@dracula> Message-ID: <20051215184414.V67816@chylonia.3miasto.net> References: <20051215165408.L56980@chylonia.3miasto.net> <20051215100835.1be39852@grokwell.org> <20051215172055.K59617@chylonia.3miasto.net> <20051215164210.GA731@gothic.blackend.org> <20051215180913.I64302@chylonia.3miasto.net> <1134667190.21995.6.camel@dracula> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: dvdrecord? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 15 Dec 2005 17:45:46 -0000 > What is this long discussion for? Instead of attempting to burn a disc > you're asking the same questions repeatedly. For the last time yes it > can burn -/+/+RW/-RW > yes it can - just finished recording second DVD from directly files and dvdrecord looks like obsolete. thank you. BTW - anyone knows what's the status of mount_udf? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Dec 15 17:46:41 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7CB9916A41F for ; Thu, 15 Dec 2005 17:46:41 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from cswiger@mac.com) Received: from pi.codefab.com (pi.codefab.com [199.103.21.227]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 21F7743D5E for ; Thu, 15 Dec 2005 17:46:23 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from cswiger@mac.com) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pi.codefab.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id AA5A65E26; Thu, 15 Dec 2005 12:46:14 -0500 (EST) Received: from pi.codefab.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (pi.codefab.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 83784-10; Thu, 15 Dec 2005 12:46:14 -0500 (EST) Received: from [192.168.1.3] (pool-68-161-122-227.ny325.east.verizon.net [68.161.122.227]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by pi.codefab.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B07505CF8; Thu, 15 Dec 2005 12:46:13 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <43A1ABEA.1070603@mac.com> Date: Thu, 15 Dec 2005 12:46:18 -0500 From: Chuck Swiger Organization: The Courts of Chaos User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.7 (Windows/20050923) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Wojciech Puchar References: <20051215165408.L56980@chylonia.3miasto.net> <20051215100835.1be39852@grokwell.org> <20051215172055.K59617@chylonia.3miasto.net> <43A19DFE.40300@mac.com> <20051215180950.N64302@chylonia.3miasto.net> In-Reply-To: <20051215180950.N64302@chylonia.3miasto.net> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.93.0.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at codefab.com Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: dvdrecord? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 15 Dec 2005 17:46:41 -0000 Wojciech Puchar wrote: >> On burners which do not have buffer-underrun correction capabilities (ie, >> "BurnProof", "JustLink", etc), trying to create the ISO image on the >> fly and pipe it to the burning process can result in coasters. YMMV, but I >> prefer to > > ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ > anyway - it may not :) > > already recorded 800 DVD's without single failed. On decent hardware, there shouldn't be a problem, especially if your burner can handle underruns. However, I get bug reports from people using older burners and slow drives, people using USB burners at USB-1 speeds, and other circumstances which are somewhat marginal. As others have said, you can have growisofs invoke mkisofs on your behalf to burn a filesystem tree directly without creating a seperate .ISO file as an intermediate step. If you want to do so in DAO mode, one can use the (undocumented) flag: "-use-the-force-luke=dao". >> However, there's room for more tools in ports, so if you like >> dvdrecord enough to want to use it under FreeBSD, why not port it yourself? >> > because i'm asking why it wasn't first - i'm sure that there are many > people who needs this dvd+rw-tools was added to ports back in 2003, and depended on the mkisofs port (aka cdrtools). Apparently, dvdrecord is a fork of cdrtools, but I don't know which one appeared first. There's also burncd by Soren, which works fine for CD-R/RW burning, but doesn't do DVD-burning especially well. YMMV. -- -Chuck From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Dec 15 18:02:09 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2B98816A420 for ; Thu, 15 Dec 2005 18:02:09 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from kline@tao.thought.org) Received: from tao.thought.org (dsl231-043-140.sea1.dsl.speakeasy.net [216.231.43.140]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3C0AC43D4C for ; Thu, 15 Dec 2005 18:02:08 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from kline@tao.thought.org) Received: from tao.thought.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by tao.thought.org (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id jBFI26kO050598; Thu, 15 Dec 2005 10:02:06 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from kline@tao.thought.org) Received: (from kline@localhost) by tao.thought.org (8.13.1/8.13.1/Submit) id jBFI257s050597; Thu, 15 Dec 2005 10:02:05 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from kline) Date: Thu, 15 Dec 2005 10:02:05 -0800 From: Gary Kline To: Gary Kline , FreeBSD Mailing List Message-ID: <20051215180205.GA50525@thought.org> References: <20051215021641.GA45523@thought.org> <20051215105042.GC91015@slackbox.xs4all.nl> <20051215164855.GA50051@thought.org> <20051215172536.GA4644@slackbox.xs4all.nl> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20051215172536.GA4644@slackbox.xs4all.nl> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i X-Organization: Thought Unlimited. Public service Unix since 1986. X-Of_Interest: Observing 19 years of service to the Unix community Cc: Subject: Re: this AMD motherboard? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 15 Dec 2005 18:02:09 -0000 On Thu, Dec 15, 2005 at 06:25:36PM +0100, Roland Smith wrote: > On Thu, Dec 15, 2005 at 08:48:55AM -0800, Gary Kline wrote: > > On Thu, Dec 15, 2005 at 11:50:42AM +0100, Roland Smith wrote: > > > On Wed, Dec 14, 2005 at 06:16:41PM -0800, Gary Kline wrote: > > > > Can anyone tell if the graphics chips on this card will work > > > > with X? > > > > > > > http://www.ecs.com.tw/ECSWeb/Products/ProductsDetail.aspx?DetailID=422&MenuID=24&LanID=9 > > > > > > Looks like it will work: > > > http://www.winischhofer.at/linuxsispart1.shtml#12 > > > > On the specs sheet URL I see "Sis Real256E 2D/3D"; I don't see the > > same designation on the winischhofer.at page. What am I missing? > > I quote from section 2: > > "Finally, "Real256", "Ultra256" and "Mirage" are marketing names for the > 3D engines of the 661, 741, 760 and 761." > YEs! I was using links and searching on /SiS, but found the "Real256" string. Thanks for ferreting this out! gary -- Gary Kline kline@thought.org www.thought.org Public service Unix From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Dec 15 18:02:22 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 51ABA16A41F for ; Thu, 15 Dec 2005 18:02:22 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from mistry.7@osu.edu) Received: from mail.united-ware.com (am-productions.biz [69.61.164.22]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6FBC643D62 for ; Thu, 15 Dec 2005 18:02:21 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from mistry.7@osu.edu) Received: from [192.168.1.100] (am-productions.biz [69.61.164.22]) (authenticated bits=0) by mail.united-ware.com (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id jBFI5HnC073835 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5 bits=128 verify=NO); Thu, 15 Dec 2005 13:05:23 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from mistry.7@osu.edu) From: Anish Mistry To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, freebsd@voidmain.net Date: Thu, 15 Dec 2005 13:04:32 -0500 User-Agent: KMail/1.8.3 References: <43A1A6F5.5090308@voidmain.net> In-Reply-To: <43A1A6F5.5090308@voidmain.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="nextPart2323426.aaEpTDGTim"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=pgp-sha1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <200512151304.33060.mistry.7@osu.edu> X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.8 required=5.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,BAYES_50, MYFREEBSD2 autolearn=failed version=3.1.0 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.0 (2005-09-13) on mail.united-ware.com X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV 0.87/1210/Thu Dec 15 10:23:22 2005 on mail.united-ware.com X-Virus-Status: Clean Cc: Subject: Re: Sasl Help X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 15 Dec 2005 18:02:22 -0000 --nextPart2323426.aaEpTDGTim Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline On Thursday 15 December 2005 12:25 pm, Tom Grove wrote: > unknown authentication mechanism: sasldb Your saslauthd is probably not built with sasldb support. You also need to provide more information. =2D-=20 Anish Mistry --nextPart2323426.aaEpTDGTim Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.2 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQBDobAxxqA5ziudZT0RAu7JAKCciQn27/yxV42ZGvAk5h1t0qJuAQCg3Z+O c7JKxYJRLZWDNuGNG1jOh5Y= =90Hh -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --nextPart2323426.aaEpTDGTim-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Dec 15 18:16:34 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 00A6416A41F for ; Thu, 15 Dec 2005 18:16:33 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from wojtek@tensor.3miasto.net) Received: from chylonia.3miasto.net (chylonia.3miasto.net [213.192.74.6]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5CAD343D73 for ; Thu, 15 Dec 2005 18:16:16 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from wojtek@tensor.3miasto.net) Received: from chylonia.3miasto.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by chylonia.3miasto.net (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id jBFIFuVN070739; Thu, 15 Dec 2005 19:15:56 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wojtek@tensor.3miasto.net) Received: from localhost (wojtek@localhost) by chylonia.3miasto.net (8.13.4/8.13.4/Submit) with ESMTP id jBFIFs52070736; Thu, 15 Dec 2005 19:15:55 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wojtek@tensor.3miasto.net) X-Authentication-Warning: chylonia.3miasto.net: wojtek owned process doing -bs Date: Thu, 15 Dec 2005 19:15:52 +0100 (CET) From: Wojciech Puchar X-X-Sender: wojtek@chylonia.3miasto.net To: Chuck Swiger In-Reply-To: <43A1ABEA.1070603@mac.com> Message-ID: <20051215191436.T70583@chylonia.3miasto.net> References: <20051215165408.L56980@chylonia.3miasto.net> <20051215100835.1be39852@grokwell.org> <20051215172055.K59617@chylonia.3miasto.net> <43A19DFE.40300@mac.com> <20051215180950.N64302@chylonia.3miasto.net> <43A1ABEA.1070603@mac.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: dvdrecord? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 15 Dec 2005 18:16:34 -0000 > On decent hardware, there shouldn't be a problem, especially if your burner can > handle underruns. However, I get bug reports from people using older burners with no burnproof still no problems on PII/400 with 160GB IDE drive. > There's also burncd by Soren, which works fine for CD-R/RW burning, but doesn't > do DVD-burning especially well. YMMV. already used it for CD's and works fine. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Dec 15 18:32:37 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F226116A41F for ; Thu, 15 Dec 2005 18:32:37 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from wsantee@gmail.com) Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.197]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 05E5643D8A for ; Thu, 15 Dec 2005 18:32:20 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from wsantee@gmail.com) Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id i31so435410wra for ; Thu, 15 Dec 2005 10:32:18 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:user-agent:x-accept-language:mime-version:to:subject:x-enigmail-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=naWM4Dl9/QY+4zhYDUuzzV1bpJsfgSRABgvGj6OJ2sZU7XKCT8D/w0951idlkTpb+AqSF7rqt7owgK0fHtKMNPGfMftYrcB4pI1TiXAQ4WJFy2O5JkKnGXHPge1+/CXHEAocLnOcgEOAl+xf89lDDO+9B+9/OyB1nZtUbFB7dzU= Received: by 10.54.114.13 with SMTP id m13mr2617685wrc; Thu, 15 Dec 2005 10:32:17 -0800 (PST) Received: from ?10.0.0.3? ( [71.32.126.159]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id 64sm2373476wra.2005.12.15.10.32.16; Thu, 15 Dec 2005 10:32:17 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <43A1B6AC.10308@gmail.com> Date: Thu, 15 Dec 2005 10:32:12 -0800 From: Wes Santee User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.6 (Windows/20050716) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Enigmail-Version: 0.93.0.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Gnome port forcing Apache 2.0 on me during install X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 15 Dec 2005 18:32:38 -0000 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA256 Greetings, I run Apache 1.3+ssl on a computer that I'm installing Gnome 2.12.2 via the meta-port in x11/gnome2. As part of that install, it builds and installs www/gnome-user-share. *That* port forces the www/apache20 port upon me. Since my version of Apache conflicts with the version it wants, portmanager dutifully uninstalls my version and installs 2.0 in an unconfigured state. Seems to me there should be some sort of warning, opt-out choice, or choice to pick a different http server (if gnome-user-share permits it) before doing this to a user. There are a lot of http servers listed and maintained in the ports tree. Are my only options to either suck it up and configure Apache 2.0 for my ~ machine, or ditch gnome-user-share and tell portmanager to never install it so I can run the web server I want? Cheers, - -Wes -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.2 (MingW32) iQIVAwUBQ6G2p4rq8W17hxGfAQh1Gg//VkWExdYQGrR4rKjHjaK6G8t7sxi5CNgL JTnq55ihSzK6PK40GuHn2UIhfXFm7kY3lst7GSkN2QxtyhHRRyOWM6Z3+pOm6G6q +L3RUmpqDtqJP5AeyIJcK7LPvgyRX2nRT1DEcbwNfxGWd5XVJhvK7pOASL+MElq7 xrjcBaaZgVuLXa0lv2fdd8EXiuE/xRGWPw0vTc/AdXJS4B/koa6iOVXism20g6ML 1uJMdHM3N+hvi5+NAPaKauDUDG2+DbmfDLBxJXS/S+Y24YrmCDYOSxlpgvW9os4L dyeChyCBL0TV75CIM+CuYp3oSXfIkFwHgzhFqEyDDkQj2GUR3G1o/yDoqObaYj5y 2/4N+7DLGeaMxwmGZLxIYvopyqmW/mAPnj2QuNlJLPQY6kywllwsBt0xi9ET18Qo Fof2vS8ptxbSNPNjNrcgikonyKe2tksOXv4ixOw3p4Ps6rY9ANJl1MkHZZ7ELhdd oigU9/P5bGNbT9EEvBOac6OaVuLyin0g/mZObA9xuNNnVyzQQCfNhRcwct5U/UkM v/45PMmayDHGMBG4NRgg6fOps5+JYNduZk2InEYyHYCO3DDZC0lrYh3comQVQ4iY 2SnCw+WQfo9xTpEOwMrxK+WTuF1IaQ2HNsyp7oVzYVfrMWMX91/n8Yj0A+teVS2w uUlwJypBMf4= =0eM8 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Dec 15 19:12:46 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0247F16A41F for ; Thu, 15 Dec 2005 19:12:46 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ringworm01@gmail.com) Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.194]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2019F43D64 for ; Thu, 15 Dec 2005 19:12:45 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ringworm01@gmail.com) Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id i27so411386wra for ; Thu, 15 Dec 2005 11:12:44 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:from:to:subject:date:user-agent:cc:references:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:message-id; b=P/dJtLatqOUowopb//Hqjlq7EF46uGy4hHNJVfJNPU+CFF+aqYJIDKHHni2CTOipjGEbh7s7USaVZCBPcbqTLlvZ77KvKZU9bKihbGJfSiwVgqXUsu0bE90LQ5lQVBb9ffcfkLr6wQJlmIT8Q1sIcVbax4o3885wr2eLP+gvRFs= Received: by 10.65.197.20 with SMTP id z20mr412144qbp; Thu, 15 Dec 2005 11:12:44 -0800 (PST) Received: from ringworm.mechee.com ( [71.102.14.129]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id e17sm131596qbe.2005.12.15.11.12.43; Thu, 15 Dec 2005 11:12:43 -0800 (PST) From: "Michael C. Shultz" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Thu, 15 Dec 2005 11:12:39 -0800 User-Agent: KMail/1.8.3 References: <43A1B6AC.10308@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <43A1B6AC.10308@gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200512151112.40706.ringworm01@gmail.com> Cc: Wes Santee Subject: Re: Gnome port forcing Apache 2.0 on me during install X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 15 Dec 2005 19:12:46 -0000 On Thursday 15 December 2005 10:32, Wes Santee wrote: > Greetings, > > I run Apache 1.3+ssl on a computer that I'm installing Gnome 2.12.2 via > the meta-port in x11/gnome2. As part of that install, it builds and > installs www/gnome-user-share. *That* port forces the www/apache20 port > upon me. > > Since my version of Apache conflicts with the version it wants, > portmanager dutifully uninstalls my version and installs 2.0 in an > unconfigured state. > > Seems to me there should be some sort of warning, opt-out choice, or > choice to pick a different http server (if gnome-user-share permits it) > before doing this to a user. There are a lot of http servers listed and > maintained in the ports tree. > > Are my only options to either suck it up and configure Apache 2.0 for my > ~ machine, or ditch gnome-user-share and tell portmanager to never > install it so I can run the web server I want? > > Cheers, > -Wes The only gnome port I can find that as that port as a dependency is x11/gnome2-power-tools, not x11/gnome2. -Mike From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Dec 15 19:42:30 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EABA916A41F for ; Thu, 15 Dec 2005 19:42:30 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from danial_thom@yahoo.com) Received: from web33301.mail.mud.yahoo.com (web33301.mail.mud.yahoo.com [68.142.206.116]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 8236E43D58 for ; Thu, 15 Dec 2005 19:42:29 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from danial_thom@yahoo.com) Received: (qmail 32538 invoked by uid 60001); 15 Dec 2005 19:42:29 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:Received:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=J/DrPpyPQ2EWj+ztehV/qmiVc3Uq0hS4rtgWoGb4Juu2Kv+De7ONWMWW0llMgNEiTQEVySiXS1fmakUWSkgU1sLKb34QIJ+/Cu67lNQyTHR4Gp2zVLPxSDGE3EVapsP84PcVu6X0YnrR8jyRlwrF4QEAjiaq8T0OpMza+gridI8= ; Message-ID: <20051215194229.32536.qmail@web33301.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Received: from [24.46.186.215] by web33301.mail.mud.yahoo.com via HTTP; Thu, 15 Dec 2005 11:42:28 PST Date: Thu, 15 Dec 2005 11:42:28 -0800 (PST) From: Danial Thom To: Ted Mittelstaedt In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: RE: Polling For 100 mbps Connections? (Was Re: Freebsd Theme Song) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: danial_thom@yahoo.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 15 Dec 2005 19:42:31 -0000 --- Ted Mittelstaedt wrote: > > > >-----Original Message----- > >From: Danial Thom > [mailto:danial_thom@yahoo.com] > >Sent: Wednesday, December 14, 2005 11:14 AM > >To: Ted Mittelstaedt; Drew Tomlinson > >Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > >Subject: RE: Polling For 100 mbps Connections? > (Was Re: Freebsd Theme > >Song) > > > > >> Well, if polling does no good for fxp, due > to > >> the > >> hardware doing controlled interrupts, then > why > >> does > >> the fxp driver even let you set it as an > >> option? > >> And why have many people who have enabled it > on > >> fxp seen an improvement? > > > >They haven't, freebsd accounting doesn't work > >properly with polling enabled, and "they" > don't > >have the ability to "know" if they are getting > >better performance, because "they", like you, > >have no clue what they're doing. How about all > >the idiots running MP with FreeBSD 4.x, when > we > >know its just a waste of time? "they" all > think > >they're getting worthwhile performance, > because > >"they" are clueless. > > > > I would call them idiots if they are running MP > under > FreeBSD and assuming that they are getting > better > performance without actually testing for it. > But > if they are just running MP because they happen > to be > using an MP server, and they want to see if it > will > work or not, who cares? > > >Maybe its tunable because they guy who wrote > the > >driver made it a tunable? duh. I've yet to see > >one credible, controlled test that shows > polling > >vs properly tuned interrupt-driven. > > > > Hm, OK I believe that. As I recall I asked you > earlier to > post the test setup you used for your own tests > "proving" that polling is worse, and you > haven't > done so yet. Now you are saying you have never > seen > a credible controlled test that shows polling > vs > interrupt-driven. So I guess either you were > blind > when you ran your own tests, or your own tests > are not credible, controlled polling vs > properly > tuned interrupt-driven. As I have been saying > all along. Now your agreeing with me. > > >The only advantage of polling is that it will > >drop packets instead of going into livelock. > The > >disadvantage is that it will drop packets when > >you have momentary bursts that would > harmlessly > >put the machine into livelock. Thats about it. > > > > Ah, now I think suddenly I see what the chip on > your > shoulder is. You would rather have your router > based > on FreeBSD go into livelock while packets stack > up, > than drop anything. You tested the polling > code and found > that yipes, it drops packets. > > What may I ask do you think that a Cisco or > other > router does when you shove 10Mbt of traffic > into it's > Ethernet interface destined for a host behind a > T1 that > is plugged into the other end? (and no, > source-quench > is not the correct answer) > > I think the scenario of it being better to > momentary go into > livelock during an overload is only applicable > to one scenario, > where the 2 interfaces in the router are the > same capacity. > As in ethernet-to-ethernet routers. Most > certainly not > Ethernet-to-serial routers, like what most > routers are > that aren't on DSL lines. > > If you have a different understanding then > please explain. Yes, going into livelock for a moment is better than dropping a bucket of packets. If your machine is in constant livelock, then its too slow and it doesn't matter whether you run polling or interrupts; you need a new machine. You also can't grasp the point that clock ticks do more than just poll, you're forcing a LOT of other stuff to get done a lot more often than necessary. You also don't understand that polling occurs MILLIONS of times per second on machines that aren't loaded. The HZ setting is the minimum number of polls per second. Its a perfect example of using a setting without having any idea how it works just because some idiot falsely claimed it was better without really testing it. > > >> > >> I've read those datasheets as well and the > >> thing I > >> don't understand is that if you are pumping > >> 100Mbt > >> into an Etherexpress Pro/100 then if the > card > >> will > >> not interrupt more than this throttled rate > you > >> keep > >> talking about, then the card's interrupt > >> throttling > >> is going to limit the inbound bandwidth to > >> below > >> 100Mbt. > > > >Wrong again, Ted. It scares me that you > consider > >yourself knowlegable about this. You can > process > >#interrupts X ring_size packets; not one per > >interrupt. You're only polling 1000x per > second > >(or whatever you have hz set to), so why do > you > >think that you have to interrupt for every > packet > >to do 100Mb/s? > > I never said anything about interrupting for > every > packet, did I? Of course not since I know what > your talking about. You said that the throttled interrupts would keep the controller from being able to do full 100Mb/s, which is wrong. So why don't you just explain what you meant by that. Your not knowledgable or reasonable Ted. You just want me to be wrong, so there's no sense arguing religion. Why don't you ask Matt Dillon about interrupt moderation vs polling, since I'm sure everyone will agree that he's a lot smarter than you, if you don't believe that I am. DT __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Dec 15 19:44:54 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A235716A41F for ; Thu, 15 Dec 2005 19:44:54 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from drench@gmail.com) Received: from xproxy.gmail.com (xproxy.gmail.com [66.249.82.204]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CCA3143D75 for ; Thu, 15 Dec 2005 19:44:34 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from drench@gmail.com) Received: by xproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id s9so364679wxc for ; Thu, 15 Dec 2005 11:44:28 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; b=MvgUi5MYPPZ12OjOpQX2zHJqqs9bJe3A0SCqQEBvjB6ma5ojIIbOzUr1dJB6sij+UicJxICOx2EAhnYq7Qn4wjZznSrZI7KCOmvb1XSA9sygU9ZrJhkGa1GRg4WfT3OLbHDU8PY/Se0bCXjA69NinyvPSyvcWNwWZWnoC/WKCBM= Received: by 10.70.92.18 with SMTP id p18mr3176013wxb; Thu, 15 Dec 2005 11:44:28 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.70.125.1 with HTTP; Thu, 15 Dec 2005 11:44:28 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: Date: Thu, 15 Dec 2005 13:44:28 -0600 From: Daniel Rench To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline Subject: shebang line parsing changes in 6.0 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 15 Dec 2005 19:44:54 -0000 I upgraded a test box to 6.0 recently and various things broke, all related to the shebang line parsing changes (see: http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/cvsweb.cgi/src/sys/kern/imgact_shell.c ). I found the "historical" parsing behavior really, really useful. Like if I wanted a script to always run as a particular user, I'd use "#!/usr/local/bin/sudo -u someuser /bin/sh", or if I wanted to ensure only one copy of a script ran at a time, "#!/usr/local/bin/setlock /some/lock/file /bin/sh" (using setlock from the daemontools package), etc. I guess I could write a program to split argv[1] on whitespace and exec, but is there a simpler way to work around this? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Dec 15 19:46:18 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3A50316A423 for ; Thu, 15 Dec 2005 19:46:18 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from wsantee@gmail.com) Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.194]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4841143DA4 for ; Thu, 15 Dec 2005 19:45:37 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from wsantee@gmail.com) Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id l8so489761nzf for ; Thu, 15 Dec 2005 11:45:30 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:user-agent:x-accept-language:mime-version:to:cc:subject:references:in-reply-to:x-enigmail-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=qAPj6qQO9b9QtUy70d4Uiry4I5FXsbWsTdCXcoyGuuWrx56G+/Sr2De8Dxwax7ZJa+1a5c6RwJX4Fn2jG4Zj+IB4Y2UaWNhLXV2SXhPicAwp8f3j1anVao7vunIzEGroZJa0VMu9rtAZ/f6jXJkXgzK2mTRUCbArllnj1VmHXMk= Received: by 10.65.160.11 with SMTP id m11mr1337139qbo; Thu, 15 Dec 2005 11:45:29 -0800 (PST) Received: from ?10.0.0.3? ( [71.32.126.159]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id f12sm163076qba.2005.12.15.11.45.28; Thu, 15 Dec 2005 11:45:29 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <43A1C7D4.1090607@gmail.com> Date: Thu, 15 Dec 2005 11:45:24 -0800 From: Wes Santee User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.6 (Windows/20050716) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Michael C. Shultz" References: <43A1B6AC.10308@gmail.com> <200512151112.40706.ringworm01@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <200512151112.40706.ringworm01@gmail.com> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.93.0.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Gnome port forcing Apache 2.0 on me during install X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 15 Dec 2005 19:46:18 -0000 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA256 Michael C. Shultz wrote: | On Thursday 15 December 2005 10:32, Wes Santee wrote: | |>Greetings, |> |>I run Apache 1.3+ssl on a computer that I'm installing Gnome 2.12.2 via |>the meta-port in x11/gnome2. As part of that install, it builds and |>installs www/gnome-user-share. *That* port forces the www/apache20 port |>upon me. |>[snip] | | The only gnome port I can find that as that port as a dependency is | x11/gnome2-power-tools, not x11/gnome2. | | -Mike You're right. Originally when I installed Gnome2, I used the gnome2-lite meta-port. It lists other ports to install to get the more "full featured" Gnome. After I while I removed the gnome2-lite port and installed the gnome2 full port since I was slowly adding the add-on ports it mentioned anyway. I assumed the bits I had already added were part of the full port. Guess I can just delete the port and be done with it. That solution doesn't really address the larger issue of a port that will toss your HTTP server out without so much as a how-do-you-do, but at least I can go back to my known configuration easily enough. Cheers, - -Wes -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.2 (MingW32) iQIVAwUBQ6HHz4rq8W17hxGfAQhZjQ/9HDsPaj5efTxIG2LTXxIDgU/f1Zr47XKG /Z0rV+VJ5VLhNfNnwy67cFJ2OgriucgToY0BbN0KjWk+uvRPaLV8w2ca/UvHp6HX IY4VvfCyrx0QIpjKHhB4aCBjcHy8zvWCnvNlUriUzM26dnZ38Vs2gvKgkcBPmVwH 9GvqX/dPk5r0MnOA8FlfszWFfuLvLZFUTBbd3ZxCE7HlFa4JdhWLm5oC50KqG1Wt +PzIjwundw3HLr/v9SaVEP1KYngpFQbL9e0VzxXEv1L+1GEwQpv2zeNs9yU/qUzK ny/tH7L80XZ36n/pNPwfMTmPDIJY4IR9GcWI1RUmHFrdf7h3OglA79Ucdf+JTLpT UJt05cqW4wtVcyqnWzYY6rgul4ehCD79+OOiZEJwq6xBbsAZtkuLg0G4p6dsrOKp RLqJ3XylIzxFQK6JvXfs2lPFkygxk40iq31+cOU0z/cfM9Z27+LoXy8A8ct7SjDE OiV9etK5I6q8nXCKfRxzHGl+fvfhIdjltKpaqxdj2PBFhl7UkE88azgElscxw5QD HTMLCj0eJQB+h4xFd4BV4QduZZFnng3P2ArtDAEA9Eg3BPa5JwnktpnXo4UYsdRP 4p6XcUL03xztxce7xqzfLBEMujSkvkoUH+gEK0omiRYcbk18MyFWCeW2ZCMVWIGN HZKDvlqpdMA= =752p -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Dec 15 19:58:26 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5696816A41F for ; Thu, 15 Dec 2005 19:58:26 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ringworm01@gmail.com) Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.201]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DA28943D68 for ; Thu, 15 Dec 2005 19:58:10 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ringworm01@gmail.com) Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id z3so466228nzf for ; Thu, 15 Dec 2005 11:58:04 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:from:to:subject:date:user-agent:cc:references:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:message-id; b=jj7rjhEZy463DmHiqEgXQfIqMPFCYEVB1MnqQuduIk37EMlB5ZEs6LEsQNdlDpJeOahXME8htrCxQRmk6ynismeMO2p8hleHTLE/V0UgHweqVSc+HH8xZtMq5E1SWh99zMQCP/NZZRzpQYjno+gxukg8NRFYYWefchgXloQjpTY= Received: by 10.65.73.20 with SMTP id a20mr1376111qbl; Thu, 15 Dec 2005 11:58:04 -0800 (PST) Received: from ringworm.mechee.com ( [71.102.14.129]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id q18sm167461qbq.2005.12.15.11.58.03; Thu, 15 Dec 2005 11:58:04 -0800 (PST) From: "Michael C. Shultz" To: Wes Santee Date: Thu, 15 Dec 2005 11:58:00 -0800 User-Agent: KMail/1.8.3 References: <43A1B6AC.10308@gmail.com> <200512151112.40706.ringworm01@gmail.com> <43A1C7D4.1090607@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <43A1C7D4.1090607@gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200512151158.01275.ringworm01@gmail.com> Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Gnome port forcing Apache 2.0 on me during install X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 15 Dec 2005 19:58:26 -0000 On Thursday 15 December 2005 11:45, Wes Santee wrote: > Michael C. Shultz wrote: > | On Thursday 15 December 2005 10:32, Wes Santee wrote: > |>Greetings, > |> > |>I run Apache 1.3+ssl on a computer that I'm installing Gnome 2.12.2 via > |>the meta-port in x11/gnome2. As part of that install, it builds and > |>installs www/gnome-user-share. *That* port forces the www/apache20 port > |>upon me. > |>[snip] > | > | The only gnome port I can find that as that port as a dependency is > | x11/gnome2-power-tools, not x11/gnome2. > | > | -Mike > > You're right. Originally when I installed Gnome2, I used the > gnome2-lite meta-port. It lists other ports to install to get the more > "full featured" Gnome. After I while I removed the gnome2-lite port and > installed the gnome2 full port since I was slowly adding the add-on > ports it mentioned anyway. I assumed the bits I had already added were > part of the full port. > > Guess I can just delete the port and be done with it. That solution > doesn't really address the larger issue of a port that will toss your > HTTP server out without so much as a how-do-you-do, but at least I can > go back to my known configuration easily enough. > > Cheers, > -Wes Since apache seems very critical to you maybe adding IGNORE|www/apache*| to /usr/local/etc/portmanager/pm-020.conf would be a good idea, it would stop surprises. When you know you want to upgrade apache then comment out that line and do a portmanager www/apache{version}, just a suggestion... -Mike From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Dec 15 20:24:43 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0CABB16A41F for ; Thu, 15 Dec 2005 20:24:43 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from efrenba@yahoo.es) Received: from web25504.mail.ukl.yahoo.com (web25504.mail.ukl.yahoo.com [217.12.10.150]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 4618343D4C for ; Thu, 15 Dec 2005 20:24:41 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from efrenba@yahoo.es) Received: (qmail 42622 invoked by uid 60001); 15 Dec 2005 20:24:40 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.es; h=Message-ID:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=Sz6i2AeQtC1F5cYjjIWZr9jLrJL8sqjaSSGQp7r5zxuXib7GnnW/7qOGayPPheRHsuiusmMa5TMA55KofLDTscxfyfe8OZD3FFADlGq8UAFaz/jNNM0hVSVqlqrhFlWH8/6ip7d36hpZoUZdKC6yY3vGMrz3zDqYZIqhO7/AkXg= ; Message-ID: <20051215202440.42620.qmail@web25504.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> Received: from [219.93.175.68] by web25504.mail.ukl.yahoo.com via HTTP; Thu, 15 Dec 2005 21:24:40 CET Date: Thu, 15 Dec 2005 21:24:40 +0100 (CET) From: Efren Bravo To: freeBSD MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Subject: cascade/chain proxy X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 15 Dec 2005 20:24:43 -0000 Hi, I need a proxy to install on my box that it can be connected in cascade/chain with a squid's proxy. The parent proxy (squid) has users authentication. I've tried with squid on my box (squid.conf: cache_peer parent_proxy_ip parent 3128 0 no-query default login=PASS) but I can only open the main page of any site, the links doesn't work. Can anyone tell me the name of a proxy to do this? Thanks... Efren Bravo. ______________________________________________ Renovamos el Correo Yahoo! Nuevos servicios, más seguridad http://correo.yahoo.es From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Dec 15 20:53:35 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6CFAC16A431 for ; Thu, 15 Dec 2005 20:53:35 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from sasa@stupar.homelinux.net) Received: from avs4.arnes.si (avs4.arnes.si [193.2.1.77]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 92A1243D53 for ; Thu, 15 Dec 2005 20:53:34 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from sasa@stupar.homelinux.net) Received: from localhost (avs4.arnes.si [193.2.1.77]) by avs4.arnes.si (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7E2012C360F; Thu, 15 Dec 2005 21:53:33 +0100 (CET) Received: from avs4.arnes.si ([193.2.1.77]) by localhost (avs4.arnes.si [193.2.1.77]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 09751-01-5; Thu, 15 Dec 2005 21:53:33 +0100 (CET) Received: from xmail.homelinux.net (cmb16-74.dial-up.arnes.si [194.249.51.74]) by avs4.arnes.si (Postfix) with ESMTP id 677FC2C3644; Thu, 15 Dec 2005 21:53:19 +0100 (CET) Received: from [192.168.10.249] (master.workgroup [192.168.10.249]) (authenticated bits=0) by xmail.homelinux.net (8.13.5/8.13.3) with ESMTP id jBFKrFkN034583; Thu, 15 Dec 2005 21:53:19 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from sasa@stupar.homelinux.net) Date: Thu, 15 Dec 2005 21:53:20 +0100 From: Sasa Stupar To: Drew Tomlinson Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <43A17EA3.1010802@mykitchentable.net> References: <43A17EA3.1010802@mykitchentable.net> X-Mailer: Mulberry/3.1.6 (Win32) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV version 0.87.1, clamav-milter version 0.87 on mig29.workgroup X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at arnes.si Cc: danial_thom@yahoo.com, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, Ted Mittelstaedt Subject: Re: Polling For 100 mbps Connections? (Was Re: Freebsd Theme Song) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 15 Dec 2005 20:53:35 -0000 --On 15. december 2005 6:33 -0800 Drew Tomlinson wrote: > On 12/15/2005 12:33 AM Sasa Stupar wrote: > >> >> >> --On 14. december 2005 20:01 -0800 Ted Mittelstaedt >> wrote: >> >>> >>> >>>> -----Original Message----- >>>> From: Danial Thom [mailto:danial_thom@yahoo.com] >>>> Sent: Wednesday, December 14, 2005 11:14 AM >>>> To: Ted Mittelstaedt; Drew Tomlinson >>>> Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org >>>> Subject: RE: Polling For 100 mbps Connections? (Was Re: Freebsd Theme >>>> Song) >>>> >>> >>>>> Well, if polling does no good for fxp, due to >>>>> the >>>>> hardware doing controlled interrupts, then why >>>>> does >>>>> the fxp driver even let you set it as an >>>>> option? >>>>> And why have many people who have enabled it on >>>>> fxp seen an improvement? >>>> >>>> >>>> They haven't, freebsd accounting doesn't work >>>> properly with polling enabled, and "they" don't >>>> have the ability to "know" if they are getting >>>> better performance, because "they", like you, >>>> have no clue what they're doing. How about all >>>> the idiots running MP with FreeBSD 4.x, when we >>>> know its just a waste of time? "they" all think >>>> they're getting worthwhile performance, because >>>> "they" are clueless. >>>> >>> >>> I would call them idiots if they are running MP under >>> FreeBSD and assuming that they are getting better >>> performance without actually testing for it. But >>> if they are just running MP because they happen to be >>> using an MP server, and they want to see if it will >>> work or not, who cares? >>> >>>> Maybe its tunable because they guy who wrote the >>>> driver made it a tunable? duh. I've yet to see >>>> one credible, controlled test that shows polling >>>> vs properly tuned interrupt-driven. >>>> >>> >>> Hm, OK I believe that. As I recall I asked you earlier to >>> post the test setup you used for your own tests >>> "proving" that polling is worse, and you haven't >>> done so yet. Now you are saying you have never seen >>> a credible controlled test that shows polling vs >>> interrupt-driven. So I guess either you were blind >>> when you ran your own tests, or your own tests >>> are not credible, controlled polling vs properly >>> tuned interrupt-driven. As I have been saying >>> all along. Now your agreeing with me. >>> >>>> The only advantage of polling is that it will >>>> drop packets instead of going into livelock. The >>>> disadvantage is that it will drop packets when >>>> you have momentary bursts that would harmlessly >>>> put the machine into livelock. Thats about it. >>>> >>> >>> Ah, now I think suddenly I see what the chip on your >>> shoulder is. You would rather have your router based >>> on FreeBSD go into livelock while packets stack up, >>> than drop anything. You tested the polling code and found >>> that yipes, it drops packets. >>> >>> What may I ask do you think that a Cisco or other >>> router does when you shove 10Mbt of traffic into it's >>> Ethernet interface destined for a host behind a T1 that >>> is plugged into the other end? (and no, source-quench >>> is not the correct answer) >>> >>> I think the scenario of it being better to momentary go into >>> livelock during an overload is only applicable to one scenario, >>> where the 2 interfaces in the router are the same capacity. >>> As in ethernet-to-ethernet routers. Most certainly not >>> Ethernet-to-serial routers, like what most routers are >>> that aren't on DSL lines. >>> >>> If you have a different understanding then please explain. >>> >>>>> >>>>> I've read those datasheets as well and the >>>>> thing I >>>>> don't understand is that if you are pumping >>>>> 100Mbt >>>>> into an Etherexpress Pro/100 then if the card >>>>> will >>>>> not interrupt more than this throttled rate you >>>>> keep >>>>> talking about, then the card's interrupt >>>>> throttling >>>>> is going to limit the inbound bandwidth to >>>>> below >>>>> 100Mbt. >>>> >>>> >>>> Wrong again, Ted. It scares me that you consider >>>> yourself knowlegable about this. You can process >>>> # interrupts X ring_size packets; not one per >>>> interrupt. You're only polling 1000x per second >>>> (or whatever you have hz set to), so why do you >>>> think that you have to interrupt for every packet >>>> to do 100Mb/s? >>> >>> >>> I never said anything about interrupting for every >>> packet, did I? Of course not since I know what >>> your talking about. However, it is you who are throwing >>> around the numbers - or were in your prior post - >>> regarding the fxp driver and hardware. Why should >>> I have to do the work digging around in the datasheets >>> and doing the math? >>> >>> Since you seem to be wanting to argue this from a >>> theory standpoint, then your only option is to do the >>> math. Go ahead, look up the datasheet for the 82557. >>> I'm sure it's online somewhere, and tell us what it says >>> about throttled interrupts, and run your numbers. >>> >>>> Do you not understand that packet >>>> processing is the same whether its done on a >>>> clock tick or a hardware interrupt? Do you not >>>> understand that a clock tick has more overhead >>>> (because of other assigned tasks)? Do you not >>>> understand that getting exactly 5000 hardware >>>> interrupts is much more efficient than having >>>> 5000 clock tick interrupts per second? What part >>>> of this don't you understand? >>>> >>> >>> Well, one part I don't understand is why when >>> one of those 5000 clock ticks happens and the fxp driver >>> finds no packets to take off the card, that it takes >>> the same amount of time for the driver to process >>> as when the fxp driver finds packets to process. >>> At least, that seems to be what your arguing. >>> >>> As I've stated before once, probably twice, polling >>> is obviously less efficient at lower bandwidth. In interrupt >>> driven mode, to get 5000 interrupts per second you are most >>> likely going to be having a lot of traffic coming in, >>> whereas you could get no traffic at all with polling mode >>> in 5000 clock ticks. So clearly, the comparison is always >>> stacked towards polling being only a competitor at high bandwidth. >>> Why you insist on using scenarios as examples that are low >>> bandwidth scenarios I cannot understand because nobody >>> in this debate so far has claimed that polling is better >>> at low bandwidth. >>> >>> I am as suspicious of testimonials as the next guy and >>> it is quite true that so far everyone promoting polling >>> in this thread has posted no test suites that are any better >>> than yours - you basically are blowing air at each other. >>> But there are a lot of others on the Internet that seem to >>> think it works great. I gave you some openings to >>> discredit them and you haven't taken them. >>> >>> I myself have never tried polling, so I >>> am certainly not going to argue against a logical, reasoned >>> explanation of why it's no good at high bandwidth. So >>> far, however, you have not posted anything like this. And >>> I am still waiting for the test suites you have used for >>> your claim that the networking in 5.4 and later is worse, >>> and I don't see why you want to diverge into this side issue >>> on polling when the real issue is the alleged worse networking >>> in the newer FreeBSD versions. >>> >>> Ted >> >> >> Hmmm, here is test with iperf what I have done with and without polling: >> ************** >> ------------------------------------------------------------ >> Client connecting to 192.168.1.200, TCP port 5001 >> TCP window size: 8.00 KByte (default) >> ------------------------------------------------------------ >> [1816] local 192.168.10.249 port 1088 connected with 192.168.1.200 >> port 5001 >> [ ID] Interval Transfer Bandwidth >> [1816] 0.0-10.0 sec 108 MBytes 90.1 Mbits/sec >> >> This is when I use Device polling option on m0n0. >> >> If I disable this option then my transfer is worse: >> ------------------------------------------------------------ >> Client connecting to 192.168.1.200, TCP port 5001 >> TCP window size: 8.00 KByte (default) >> ------------------------------------------------------------ >> [1816] local 192.168.10.249 port 1086 connected with 192.168.1.200 >> port 5001 >> [ ID] Interval Transfer Bandwidth >> [1816] 0.0-10.0 sec 69.7 MBytes 58.4 Mbits/sec >> *************** >> >> BTW: my router is m0n0wall (FBSD 4.11). >> > > Thanks for your post. Can you please tell me what network card and > driver your machine uses? > > > Thanks, > > Drew I have 3 Intel Pro/100S NICs and using fxp driver. -- Sasa Stupar From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Dec 15 20:59:11 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6597E16A420 for ; Thu, 15 Dec 2005 20:59:11 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from tuxgirl@gmail.com) Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.202]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AF18643D91 for ; Thu, 15 Dec 2005 20:58:49 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from tuxgirl@gmail.com) Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id i1so538436nzh for ; Thu, 15 Dec 2005 12:58:44 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; b=AroS+0iRi2USh3jnTt+KEPVF5TYQv1yw1aKz8dG6Xl5PHyyyyS0+5kPOZ+lh6QAPTFtXEJWPyMqzCInie0PHSIQWb+rXQxYYGQb5ekowpvSkTSZbhyTJcKOVGnK6ShtGmBmC0HdgGEaWMnz2rjVoHT18Hh+6PbEip/uKpDuhooE= Received: by 10.65.222.3 with SMTP id z3mr1386181qbq; Thu, 15 Dec 2005 12:58:44 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.65.194.11 with HTTP; Thu, 15 Dec 2005 12:58:44 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <6e4453640512151258q7167d253t82f50f423002822b@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 15 Dec 2005 13:58:44 -0700 From: TuxGirl To: Roland Smith , questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline Cc: Subject: Changing shells (was: pkg_add not installing lsof (and other programs)?) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 15 Dec 2005 20:59:11 -0000 > If you install bash, be aware that you have that you have to add it > (with it's full path, /usr/local/bin/bash) to /etc/shells befor trying > to change your shell (with 'pw usermod yourname -s bash'). amon-re# pw usermod erins -s zsh pw: no default shell available or defined I've added it to /etc/shells: # $FreeBSD: src/etc/shells,v 1.5 2000/04/27 21:58:46 ache Exp $ # # List of acceptable shells for chpass(1). # Ftpd will not allow users to connect who are not using # one of these shells. /bin/sh /bin/csh /bin/tcsh /usr/local/bin/zsh /usr/local/bin/rzsh /usr/local/bin/bash When I log in as my user (erins), if I run ps, it shows sh as the shell running. Am I missing an important step someplace here? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Dec 15 20:59:52 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2264316A41F for ; Thu, 15 Dec 2005 20:59:52 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from wojtek@tensor.3miasto.net) Received: from chylonia.3miasto.net (chylonia.3miasto.net [213.192.74.6]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4C19C43D92 for ; Thu, 15 Dec 2005 20:59:39 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from wojtek@tensor.3miasto.net) Received: from chylonia.3miasto.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by chylonia.3miasto.net (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id jBFKxKkW085408; Thu, 15 Dec 2005 21:59:20 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wojtek@tensor.3miasto.net) Received: from localhost (wojtek@localhost) by chylonia.3miasto.net (8.13.4/8.13.4/Submit) with ESMTP id jBFKxJ2a085405; Thu, 15 Dec 2005 21:59:20 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wojtek@tensor.3miasto.net) X-Authentication-Warning: chylonia.3miasto.net: wojtek owned process doing -bs Date: Thu, 15 Dec 2005 21:59:19 +0100 (CET) From: Wojciech Puchar X-X-Sender: wojtek@chylonia.3miasto.net To: Efren Bravo In-Reply-To: <20051215202440.42620.qmail@web25504.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <20051215215848.E85152@chylonia.3miasto.net> References: <20051215202440.42620.qmail@web25504.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: freeBSD Subject: Re: cascade/chain proxy X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 15 Dec 2005 20:59:52 -0000 > > I need a proxy to install on my box that it can > be connected in > cascade/chain with a squid's proxy. The parent > proxy (squid) has users authentication. > > I've tried with squid on my box (squid.conf: > cache_peer parent_proxy_ip parent 3128 0 no-query > default login=PASS) but I can only open the main > page of any site, the links doesn't work. please send me your squid config privately. i'm using that configuration and it works fine. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Dec 15 21:13:03 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 14CEE16A41F for ; Thu, 15 Dec 2005 21:13:03 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from tuxgirl@gmail.com) Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.200]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 171C643D5E for ; Thu, 15 Dec 2005 21:13:02 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from tuxgirl@gmail.com) Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id s1so527520nze for ; Thu, 15 Dec 2005 13:13:01 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; b=c2yjodnkZ7ABzekItVtHuFZxFnB89OjC8n91PbpZj6/XWlOHzftnL1bLbJ+LsUh/f/+fDcGGBLNCuxikG2xiw+/D9aDQ3OaPrzPgOI/LHW1PkVo4zfUhfibmCxMok/a3u8+jdx+ko6mrFXEXIIS88jsiFuyaC5jwnUdPBaa+Z+s= Received: by 10.65.148.13 with SMTP id a13mr1449877qbo; Thu, 15 Dec 2005 13:13:01 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.65.194.11 with HTTP; Thu, 15 Dec 2005 13:13:01 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <6e4453640512151313w5d44a059yf0aa15f45c6f9ff9@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 15 Dec 2005 14:13:01 -0700 From: TuxGirl To: questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline Cc: Subject: run commands on boot/loading modules X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 15 Dec 2005 21:13:03 -0000 Hi, There are 3 commands I was having to run each time that I started up my computer, and I'm trying to figure out the correct way to have them run automatically. kldload if_iwi iwicontrol -i iwi- -d /usr/local/share/iwi-firmware -m bss kldload snd_ich I added these commands to the bottom of /etc/rc.conf, and they appear to be working, but during boot, I see a lot of errors relating to them. (I haven't found the boot log yet, so I can't post them here, but in essence, they were complaining that files existed, and i know that it tried to load the modules at least twice... So, I'm guessing that /etc/rc.conf isn't the right place to add these 3 lines. I just want the commands to run once during the boot, and probably sometime near the end of boot so that I don't have to worry about them depending on something that's done earlier on (at least for the wireless stuff). Thanks again to everyone for all the help! ~Erin From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Dec 15 21:22:16 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 58B2E16A41F; Thu, 15 Dec 2005 21:22:16 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from lcapps@cteresource.org) Received: from cteresource.org (mail.cteresource.org [206.136.187.10]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9EFA943D8D; Thu, 15 Dec 2005 21:22:10 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from lcapps@cteresource.org) Received: from ASSP-nospam (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by cteresource.org (8.11.7+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id jBFLM7Q09143; Thu, 15 Dec 2005 16:22:07 -0500 (EST) Received: from 192.168.1.126 ([192.168.1.126] helo=localhost) by ASSP-nospam ; 15 Dec 05 21:22:06 -0000 Date: Thu, 15 Dec 2005 16:22:07 -0500 From: Lee Capps To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20051215212206.GG27460@otis.cteresource.org> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, questions@freebsd.org References: <6e4453640512151258q7167d253t82f50f423002822b@mail.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <6e4453640512151258q7167d253t82f50f423002822b@mail.gmail.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.11 Cc: Subject: Re: Changing shells (was: pkg_add not installing lsof (and other programs)?) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 15 Dec 2005 21:22:16 -0000 At 13:58 Thu 15 Dec 2005, TuxGirl wrote: > > If you install bash, be aware that you have that you have to add it > > (with it's full path, /usr/local/bin/bash) to /etc/shells befor trying > > to change your shell (with 'pw usermod yourname -s bash'). > > amon-re# pw usermod erins -s zsh > pw: no default shell available or defined > > I've added it to /etc/shells: > # $FreeBSD: src/etc/shells,v 1.5 2000/04/27 21:58:46 ache Exp $ > # > # List of acceptable shells for chpass(1). > # Ftpd will not allow users to connect who are not using > # one of these shells. > > /bin/sh > /bin/csh > /bin/tcsh > /usr/local/bin/zsh > /usr/local/bin/rzsh > /usr/local/bin/bash > > When I log in as my user (erins), if I run ps, it shows sh as the > shell running. Am I missing an important step someplace here? Try: man chsh It's just an aspect of the same command, but chsh -s bash username should work. (Worked for me!) HTH, -- Lee Capps Technology Specialist CTE Resource Center From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Dec 15 21:22:16 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 58B2E16A41F; Thu, 15 Dec 2005 21:22:16 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from lcapps@cteresource.org) Received: from cteresource.org (mail.cteresource.org [206.136.187.10]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9EFA943D8D; Thu, 15 Dec 2005 21:22:10 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from lcapps@cteresource.org) Received: from ASSP-nospam (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by cteresource.org (8.11.7+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id jBFLM7Q09143; Thu, 15 Dec 2005 16:22:07 -0500 (EST) Received: from 192.168.1.126 ([192.168.1.126] helo=localhost) by ASSP-nospam ; 15 Dec 05 21:22:06 -0000 Date: Thu, 15 Dec 2005 16:22:07 -0500 From: Lee Capps To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20051215212206.GG27460@otis.cteresource.org> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, questions@freebsd.org References: <6e4453640512151258q7167d253t82f50f423002822b@mail.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <6e4453640512151258q7167d253t82f50f423002822b@mail.gmail.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.11 Cc: Subject: Re: Changing shells (was: pkg_add not installing lsof (and other programs)?) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 15 Dec 2005 21:22:16 -0000 At 13:58 Thu 15 Dec 2005, TuxGirl wrote: > > If you install bash, be aware that you have that you have to add it > > (with it's full path, /usr/local/bin/bash) to /etc/shells befor trying > > to change your shell (with 'pw usermod yourname -s bash'). > > amon-re# pw usermod erins -s zsh > pw: no default shell available or defined > > I've added it to /etc/shells: > # $FreeBSD: src/etc/shells,v 1.5 2000/04/27 21:58:46 ache Exp $ > # > # List of acceptable shells for chpass(1). > # Ftpd will not allow users to connect who are not using > # one of these shells. > > /bin/sh > /bin/csh > /bin/tcsh > /usr/local/bin/zsh > /usr/local/bin/rzsh > /usr/local/bin/bash > > When I log in as my user (erins), if I run ps, it shows sh as the > shell running. Am I missing an important step someplace here? Try: man chsh It's just an aspect of the same command, but chsh -s bash username should work. (Worked for me!) HTH, -- Lee Capps Technology Specialist CTE Resource Center From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Dec 15 21:25:17 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9277916A423 for ; Thu, 15 Dec 2005 21:25:17 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from albi@scii.nl) Received: from post-25.mail.nl.demon.net (post-25.mail.nl.demon.net [194.159.73.195]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C2B0443D5F for ; Thu, 15 Dec 2005 21:25:11 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from albi@scii.nl) Received: from aseed.demon.nl ([83.160.138.119]:10053 helo=mail.aseed.antenna.nl) by post-25.mail.nl.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1En0b8-0002oF-Ed for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Thu, 15 Dec 2005 21:25:10 +0000 Received: from http.aseed.antenna.nl (http.aseed.antenna.nl [192.168.0.50]) by mail.aseed.antenna.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7AD36154FB9 for ; Thu, 15 Dec 2005 22:25:55 +0100 (CET) Received: from localhost.localdomain (a79080.upc-a.chello.nl [62.163.79.80]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by http.aseed.antenna.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id DDE6C58CEFB for ; Thu, 15 Dec 2005 22:25:09 +0100 (CET) Date: Thu, 15 Dec 2005 22:24:59 +0100 From: albi To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-Id: <20051215222459.fe808a19.albi@scii.nl> In-Reply-To: <6e4453640512151313w5d44a059yf0aa15f45c6f9ff9@mail.gmail.com> References: <6e4453640512151313w5d44a059yf0aa15f45c6f9ff9@mail.gmail.com> X-Mailer: Sylpheed version 2.1.1 (GTK+ 2.8.6; i486-pc-linux-gnu) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: run commands on boot/loading modules X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 15 Dec 2005 21:25:17 -0000 On Thu, 15 Dec 2005 14:13:01 -0700 TuxGirl wrote: > There are 3 commands I was having to run each time that I started up > my computer, and I'm trying to figure out the correct way to have them > run automatically. > > kldload if_iwi > iwicontrol -i iwi- -d /usr/local/share/iwi-firmware -m bss > kldload snd_ich /etc/rc.local would be the place to add commands like that -- grtjs, albi gpg-key: lynx -dump http://scii.nl/~albi/gpg.asc | gpg --import From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Dec 15 21:41:44 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CACC616A41F for ; Thu, 15 Dec 2005 21:41:44 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from chand0s@list.ru) Received: from mx1.mail.ru (mx1.mail.ru [194.67.23.121]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 578CE43D80 for ; Thu, 15 Dec 2005 21:41:36 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from chand0s@list.ru) Received: from [213.242.10.70] (port=49554 helo=lazy.lazy.org) by mx1.mail.ru with asmtp id 1En0qy-000Jpj-00 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Fri, 16 Dec 2005 00:41:34 +0300 To: "FreeBSD Questions" Date: Fri, 16 Dec 2005 00:41:20 +0300 From: "Vasilkov Vasily" Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; delsp=yes; charset=koi8-r MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-ID: User-Agent: Opera M2/8.0 (Win32, build 7561) Subject: "fopen" call... X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 15 Dec 2005 21:41:44 -0000 Hi all.. this is the part of my source ************ FILE *source; source = fopen("/home/user/test.c", "r"); if (source) { printf("fopen error"); exit(0); }; ************ file "/home/user/test.c" exists and its access mode is 777..., but when I run program, I get "fopen error" message... Can anybody explain me this subj? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Dec 15 21:44:54 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3A24C16A41F for ; Thu, 15 Dec 2005 21:44:54 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ringworm01@gmail.com) Received: from xproxy.gmail.com (xproxy.gmail.com [66.249.82.199]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 734F543D66 for ; Thu, 15 Dec 2005 21:44:36 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ringworm01@gmail.com) Received: by xproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id t12so384218wxc for ; Thu, 15 Dec 2005 13:44:35 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:from:to:subject:date:user-agent:cc:references:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:message-id; b=MiPrXKjTD5revEFAjua/Ju9PrPajaIaUKbF6M6XVvsnjQ08gq6REi63758342gh5ES5Cuo6uDH2Ee8wevcrTHeujG/OBdy/Eq7SQhVXkTe6GBcAclxUYCLnPdfzej2sxn/W+yYHD9KJuf8HPJXshf1hepTpAM+e0ocC4/NYu9NE= Received: by 10.70.38.10 with SMTP id l10mr3332944wxl; Thu, 15 Dec 2005 13:44:35 -0800 (PST) Received: from ringworm.mechee.com ( [71.102.14.129]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id i16sm3621260wxd.2005.12.15.13.44.34; Thu, 15 Dec 2005 13:44:35 -0800 (PST) From: "Michael C. Shultz" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Thu, 15 Dec 2005 13:44:33 -0800 User-Agent: KMail/1.8.3 References: In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="koi8-r" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200512151344.33503.ringworm01@gmail.com> Cc: Vasilkov Vasily Subject: Re: "fopen" call... X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 15 Dec 2005 21:44:54 -0000 On Thursday 15 December 2005 13:41, Vasilkov Vasily wrote: > Hi all.. > this is the part of my source > ************ > FILE *source; > source = fopen("/home/user/test.c", "r"); > if (source) { > printf("fopen error"); > exit(0); > }; > ************ > file "/home/user/test.c" exists and its access mode is 777..., but > when I run program, I get "fopen error" message... > > Can anybody explain me this subj? > > Try if(source == NULL ) -Mike From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Dec 15 21:47:25 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9666016A422 for ; Thu, 15 Dec 2005 21:47:25 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from nb_root@videotron.ca) Received: from relais.videotron.ca (relais.videotron.ca [24.201.245.36]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A907743D5F for ; Thu, 15 Dec 2005 21:47:24 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from nb_root@videotron.ca) Received: from clk01a ([66.130.198.54]) by VL-MO-MR003.ip.videotron.ca (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-2.05 (built Apr 28 2005)) with ESMTP id <0IRK001XH76ZLJX0@VL-MO-MR003.ip.videotron.ca> for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Thu, 15 Dec 2005 16:47:24 -0500 (EST) Date: Thu, 15 Dec 2005 16:47:17 -0500 From: Nicolas Blais In-reply-to: To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-id: <200512151647.23500.nb_root@videotron.ca> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: multipart/signed; boundary=nextPart2866146.lKyPuEgPZ5; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=pgp-sha1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit References: User-Agent: KMail/1.8.3 Cc: Vasilkov Vasily Subject: Re: "fopen" call... X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 15 Dec 2005 21:47:25 -0000 --nextPart2866146.lKyPuEgPZ5 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="koi8-r" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline On December 15, 2005 04:41 pm, Vasilkov Vasily wrote: > Hi all.. > this is the part of my source > ************ > FILE *source; > source =3D fopen("/home/user/test.c", "r"); > if (source) { > printf("fopen error"); > exit(0); > }; > ************ > file "/home/user/test.c" exists and its access mode is 777..., but > when I run program, I get "fopen error" message... > > Can anybody explain me this subj? > > =46rom man fopen: RETURN VALUES Upon successful completion fopen(), fdopen() and freopen() return a FI= LE pointer. Otherwise, NULL is returned and the global variable errno is set to indicate the error. That means that your code should be: FILE *source; source =3D fopen("/home/user/test.c", "r"); if (!source) { printf("fopen error"); exit(0); }; Nicolas. =2D-=20 =46reeBSD 7.0-CURRENT #4: Sat Dec 10 11:55:08 EST 2005 =20 root@clk01a:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/CLK01A=20 PGP? (updated 16 Nov 05) : http://www.clkroot.net/security/nb_root.asc --nextPart2866146.lKyPuEgPZ5 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.2 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQBDoeRr4wTBlvcsbJURAhYkAJwP3VrufI45tVFXGiAemoqfSwwX6wCeOY7t JqbY/KlBLBHsKnCnZCPgPKE= =QBzA -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --nextPart2866146.lKyPuEgPZ5-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Dec 15 21:47:28 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A662F16A420 for ; Thu, 15 Dec 2005 21:47:28 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from chand0s@list.ru) Received: from mx1.mail.ru (mx1.mail.ru [194.67.23.121]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3DD4943D46 for ; Thu, 15 Dec 2005 21:47:28 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from chand0s@list.ru) Received: from [213.242.10.70] (port=44237 helo=lazy.lazy.org) by mx1.mail.ru with asmtp id 1En0wf-000O3H-00; Fri, 16 Dec 2005 00:47:27 +0300 To: TuxGirl , questions@freebsd.org References: <6e4453640512151313w5d44a059yf0aa15f45c6f9ff9@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: From: "Vasilkov Vasily" Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; delsp=yes; charset=koi8-r MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Date: Fri, 16 Dec 2005 00:47:11 +0300 In-Reply-To: <6e4453640512151313w5d44a059yf0aa15f45c6f9ff9@mail.gmail.com> User-Agent: Opera M2/8.0 (Win32, build 7561) Cc: Subject: Re: run commands on boot/loading modules X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 15 Dec 2005 21:47:28 -0000 On Fri, 16 Dec 2005 00:13:01 +0300, TuxGirl wrote: > Hi, > > There are 3 commands I was having to run each time that I started up > my computer, and I'm trying to figure out the correct way to have them > run automatically. > > kldload if_iwi > iwicontrol -i iwi- -d /usr/local/share/iwi-firmware -m bss > kldload snd_ich > > I added these commands to the bottom of /etc/rc.conf, and they appear > to be working, but during boot, I see a lot of errors relating to > them. (I haven't found the boot log yet, so I can't post them here, > but in essence, they were complaining that files existed, and i know > that it tried to load the modules at least twice... > > So, I'm guessing that /etc/rc.conf isn't the right place to add these > 3 lines. I just want the commands to run once during the boot, and > probably sometime near the end of boot so that I don't have to worry > about them depending on something that's done earlier on (at least for > the wireless stuff). > > Thanks again to everyone for all the help! > > ~Erin "dmesg" - boot log... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Dec 15 21:47:58 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1B63916A41F for ; Thu, 15 Dec 2005 21:47:58 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from lk@tempest.sk) Received: from proxy.dgrp.sk (proxy.dgrp.sk [195.28.127.2]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7B68E43D5A for ; Thu, 15 Dec 2005 21:47:56 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from lk@tempest.sk) Received: by proxy.dgrp.sk (Postfix, from userid 1003) id 895858008; Thu, 15 Dec 2005 22:47:55 +0100 (CET) X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.0 (2005-09-13) on proxy.dgrp.sk X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.4 required=4.0 tests=AWL autolearn=ham version=3.1.0 Received: from webmail.tempest.sk (domino1.tempest.sk [195.28.100.38]) by proxy.dgrp.sk (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9D75B8004 for ; Thu, 15 Dec 2005 22:47:48 +0100 (CET) Received: from lk.tempest.sk ([195.28.109.47]) by webmail.tempest.sk (Lotus Domino Release 6.5.4) with ESMTP id 2005121522474810-7814 ; Thu, 15 Dec 2005 22:47:48 +0100 Received: from lk.tempest.sk (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by lk.tempest.sk (8.13.3/8.12.9) with ESMTP id jBFLlh4O054715 for ; Thu, 15 Dec 2005 22:47:43 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from lk@lk.tempest.sk) Received: (from koren@localhost) by lk.tempest.sk (8.13.3/8.13.1/Submit) id jBFLlhoK054712; Thu, 15 Dec 2005 22:47:43 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from lk) X-Authentication-Warning: lk.tempest.sk: koren set sender to lk using -f Sender: lk@tempest.sk To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: Ludo Koren Date: 15 Dec 2005 22:47:42 +0100 Message-ID: <87fyou6ni9.fsf@lk.tempest.sk> Lines: 11 User-Agent: Gnus/5.09 (Gnus v5.9.0) Emacs/21.3 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-MIMETrack: Itemize by SMTP Server on Domino1/DGRP(Release 6.5.4|March 27, 2005) at 15.12.2005 22:47:48, Serialize by Router on Domino1/DGRP(Release 6.5.4|March 27, 2005) at 15.12.2005 22:47:48, Serialize complete at 15.12.2005 22:47:48 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Subject: gvinum + swap on 5.4-STABLE X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 15 Dec 2005 21:47:58 -0000 Hello, is it possible to use swap on vinum volume? I know there was some problems on earlier 5.x version with vinum. Thanks, lk PS: I cannot find anything on the topic in the mail archive... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Dec 15 21:56:11 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E2D8A16A41F for ; Thu, 15 Dec 2005 21:56:11 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from chand0s@list.ru) Received: from mx2.mail.ru (mx2.mail.ru [194.67.23.122]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4925343D53 for ; Thu, 15 Dec 2005 21:56:11 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from chand0s@list.ru) Received: from [213.242.10.70] (port=9292 helo=lazy.lazy.org) by mx2.mail.ru with asmtp id 1En156-000Ji3-00 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Fri, 16 Dec 2005 00:56:09 +0300 To: "FreeBSD Questions" References: <200512151344.33503.ringworm01@gmail.com> Message-ID: Date: Fri, 16 Dec 2005 00:55:55 +0300 From: "Vasilkov Vasily" Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; delsp=yes; charset=koi8-r MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: <200512151344.33503.ringworm01@gmail.com> User-Agent: Opera M2/8.0 (Win32, build 7561) Subject: Re: "fopen" call... X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 15 Dec 2005 21:56:12 -0000 Thanks a lot... it works... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Dec 15 21:56:24 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BBAB716A41F for ; Thu, 15 Dec 2005 21:56:24 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from rsmith@xs4all.nl) Received: from smtp-vbr16.xs4all.nl (smtp-vbr16.xs4all.nl [194.109.24.36]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9B49643D53 for ; Thu, 15 Dec 2005 21:56:23 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from rsmith@xs4all.nl) Received: from slackbox.xs4all.nl (slackbox.xs4all.nl [213.84.242.160]) by smtp-vbr16.xs4all.nl (8.13.3/8.13.3) with ESMTP id jBFLuL1Y066488; Thu, 15 Dec 2005 22:56:22 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from rsmith@xs4all.nl) Received: by slackbox.xs4all.nl (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 82910B829; Thu, 15 Dec 2005 22:56:21 +0100 (CET) Date: Thu, 15 Dec 2005 22:56:21 +0100 From: Roland Smith To: TuxGirl Message-ID: <20051215215621.GB11628@slackbox.xs4all.nl> References: <6e4453640512151313w5d44a059yf0aa15f45c6f9ff9@mail.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="EuxKj2iCbKjpUGkD" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <6e4453640512151313w5d44a059yf0aa15f45c6f9ff9@mail.gmail.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i X-GPG-Fingerprint: 1A2B 477F 9970 BA3C 2914 B7CE 1277 EFB0 C321 A725 X-GPG-Key: http://www.xs4all.nl/~rsmith/pubkey.txt X-GPG-Notice: If this message is not signed, don't assume I sent it! X-Virus-Scanned: by XS4ALL Virus Scanner Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: run commands on boot/loading modules X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 15 Dec 2005 21:56:24 -0000 --EuxKj2iCbKjpUGkD Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Thu, Dec 15, 2005 at 02:13:01PM -0700, TuxGirl wrote: > Hi, >=20 > There are 3 commands I was having to run each time that I started up > my computer, and I'm trying to figure out the correct way to have them > run automatically. >=20 > kldload if_iwi > iwicontrol -i iwi- -d /usr/local/share/iwi-firmware -m bss > kldload snd_ich To load the modules, put the following in /boot/loader.conf if_iwi_load=3D"YES" snd_ich_load=3D"YES" > So, I'm guessing that /etc/rc.conf isn't the right place to add these > 3 lines. =20 Yes. :-) Every rc script sources rc.conf, so your commands are all executed dozens of times. rc.conf is only for setting variables. > I just want the commands to run once during the boot, and > probably sometime near the end of boot so that I don't have to worry > about them depending on something that's done earlier on (at least for > the wireless stuff). If you have a single iwi device, it will be named iwi0, I think. =46rom looking at /etc/rc.d/netif, you'll see that it executes a shell function ifscript_up for every interface. You can find ifscript_up in /etc/network.subr. Looking at it, you can see that you should create a script /etc/start_if.iwi0, with the iwicontrol command in it. HTH, Roland --=20 R.F.Smith (http://www.xs4all.nl/~rsmith/) Please send e-mail as plain text. public key: http://www.xs4all.nl/~rsmith/pubkey.txt --EuxKj2iCbKjpUGkD Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.2 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFDoeaFEnfvsMMhpyURAm0BAKCQ6qWGEhX1R8FGvpZ5ENVwhL4SHACgkBDZ A919uCV1YaLgqd+3HPi9i9c= =aDGc -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --EuxKj2iCbKjpUGkD-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Dec 15 22:12:29 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 099F516A41F for ; Thu, 15 Dec 2005 22:12:29 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from chand0s@list.ru) Received: from mx1.mail.ru (mx1.mail.ru [194.67.23.121]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4D75343D68 for ; Thu, 15 Dec 2005 22:12:23 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from chand0s@list.ru) Received: from [217.145.215.1] (port=2215 helo=lazy.lazy.org) by mx1.mail.ru with asmtp id 1En1Kn-000HYw-00 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Fri, 16 Dec 2005 01:12:22 +0300 To: "FreeBSD Questions" References: <6e4453640512151258q7167d253t82f50f423002822b@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: Date: Fri, 16 Dec 2005 01:11:59 +0300 From: "Vasilkov Vasily" Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; delsp=yes; charset=koi8-r MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: <6e4453640512151258q7167d253t82f50f423002822b@mail.gmail.com> User-Agent: Opera M2/8.0 (Win32, build 7561) Subject: Re: Changing shells (was: pkg_add not installing lsof (and other programs)?) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 15 Dec 2005 22:12:29 -0000 On Thu, 15 Dec 2005 23:58:44 +0300, TuxGirl wrote: >> If you install bash, be aware that you have that you have to add it >> (with it's full path, /usr/local/bin/bash) to /etc/shells befor trying >> to change your shell (with 'pw usermod yourname -s bash'). > > amon-re# pw usermod erins -s zsh > pw: no default shell available or defined > > I've added it to /etc/shells: > # $FreeBSD: src/etc/shells,v 1.5 2000/04/27 21:58:46 ache Exp $ > # > # List of acceptable shells for chpass(1). > # Ftpd will not allow users to connect who are not using > # one of these shells. > > /bin/sh > /bin/csh > /bin/tcsh > /usr/local/bin/zsh > /usr/local/bin/rzsh > /usr/local/bin/bash > > When I log in as my user (erins), if I run ps, it shows sh as the > shell running. Am I missing an important step someplace here? If you wanna change default shell, edit /etc/master.passwd and run pwd_mkdb -p /etc/master.passwd From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Dec 15 22:19:33 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CFC3B16A41F for ; Thu, 15 Dec 2005 22:19:33 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from lists@webtent.net) Received: from columbus.webtent.org (static-70-110-70-42.tampfl.fios.verizon.net [70.110.70.42]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8315143D64 for ; Thu, 15 Dec 2005 22:19:33 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from lists@webtent.net) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by columbus.webtent.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 83EF3CFAB5 for ; Thu, 15 Dec 2005 17:19:32 -0500 (EST) From: Robert Fitzpatrick To: FreeBSD Content-Type: text/plain Date: Thu, 15 Dec 2005 17:19:31 -0500 Message-Id: <1134685171.477.104.camel@columbus.webtent.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.2.1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: arp messages X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: robert@webtent.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 15 Dec 2005 22:19:33 -0000 I get these messages in the log, these are the mac addresses for NICs all on my network, my switch and destination server: esmtp.webtent.net kernel log messages: > arp: 208.38.145.35 moved from 00:10:e0:01:86:d9 to 00:b0:64:4d:0b:70 on em0 > arp: 208.38.145.42 moved from 00:10:e0:01:86:d9 to 00:b0:64:4d:0b:70 on em0 > arp: 208.38.145.40 moved from 00:b0:64:4d:0b:70 to 00:10:e0:01:b1:7a on em0 > arp: 208.38.145.40 moved from 00:10:e0:01:b1:7a to 00:b0:64:4d:0b:70 on em0 I found this note, is this the proper way to disable these messages in my FreeBSD 5.4 server? http://listserver.uk.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-users/2004-August/009605.html >It's just arp telling you that both nics are on the same network. >This will stop arp messages being logged > >Sysctl net.link.ether.inet.log_arp_movements=0 -- Robert From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Dec 15 22:39:18 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 171B616A41F for ; Thu, 15 Dec 2005 22:39:18 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from dick@nagual.st) Received: from nagual.st (cc20684-a.assen1.dr.home.nl [82.74.2.186]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B563E43D58 for ; Thu, 15 Dec 2005 22:39:17 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from dick@nagual.st) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) (uid 1000) by nagual.st with local; Thu, 15 Dec 2005 23:39:15 +0100 id 00039832.43A1F093.0000CB00 Date: Thu, 15 Dec 2005 23:39:15 +0100 To: freebsd-questions Message-ID: <20051215223915.GA42633@lothlorien.nagual.st> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i From: dick hoogendijk Subject: flash 6 and 7 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 15 Dec 2005 22:39:18 -0000 Is it possible to have flash 7 as well as flash 6 installed at the same time? I know flash 7 is alpha support, but I'd like to try it with mozilla on a freebsd-6 box. But only if my flash 6 keeps working ;-) -- dick -- http://nagual.st/ -- PGP/GnuPG key: F86289CE ++ Running FreeBSD 6.0 +++ The Power to Serve From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Dec 15 23:03:16 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E5D3016A41F for ; Thu, 15 Dec 2005 23:03:16 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from playnet@mail.ru) Received: from mx6.mail.ru (mx6.mail.ru [194.67.23.26]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8A7D443D5D for ; Thu, 15 Dec 2005 23:03:16 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from playnet@mail.ru) Received: from [83.149.3.59] (port=52365 helo=pl) by mx6.mail.ru with asmtp id 1En282-00070D-00 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Fri, 16 Dec 2005 02:03:15 +0300 Date: Fri, 16 Dec 2005 02:06:35 +0300 From: Playnet X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <609017833.20051216020635@mail.ru> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Courier and postfix X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: playnet List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 15 Dec 2005 23:03:17 -0000 Hello freebsd-questions, How i can install subj? Or i need use Exim? I have LDAP server and userlist within. What better for auth via LDAP and good work? Postfix + ... (cyrus?) or Exim + ... (courier?) ? Where i can read about pluses and minuses these MTAs? FreeBSD 5.3 -- Best regards, Playnet From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Dec 16 00:21:10 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5B62A16A41F for ; Fri, 16 Dec 2005 00:21:10 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from illusion65@gmail.com) Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.206]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 486B943D55 for ; Fri, 16 Dec 2005 00:21:09 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from illusion65@gmail.com) Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id i5so791785wra for ; Thu, 15 Dec 2005 16:21:08 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:user-agent:x-accept-language:mime-version:to:subject:references:in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=ZoTlVEQ68m3nHWAujuIgxuaSt4nmDoOE9g2l5qTwKQd8Yz2z6S2qNyn16I6lD6jVjGryPvPWmEWbBFCWnzdpmmg1nSOucfUdetf2gqZEhq9deKn3c60IEnyiD1wDdt3B85qDqZ287XHVqFfxLW3853Ap0CAEvX+DnizaQadqLB8= Received: by 10.54.151.9 with SMTP id y9mr2882895wrd; Thu, 15 Dec 2005 16:21:08 -0800 (PST) Received: from ?10.0.10.80? ( [60.234.223.58]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id g9sm2715015wra.2005.12.15.16.21.07; Thu, 15 Dec 2005 16:21:08 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <43A20874.1000109@gmail.com> Date: Fri, 16 Dec 2005 13:21:08 +1300 From: Doug Hawkins User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.7 (X11/20051210) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <43A116DB.8090608@russellmeek.net> <20051215103556.GA904@tuatara.fishballoon.org> In-Reply-To: <20051215103556.GA904@tuatara.fishballoon.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Running sendmail w/o FQDN X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 16 Dec 2005 00:21:10 -0000 I am also having problems with sendmail configuration on my machine. I suppose it's all related to the fact that I don't have a fully qualified domain name (FQDN), but I have not been able to find a simple method to allow sendmail to operate as the "local message manager" without having a FQDN -- and not complain about it. I've skimmed the 180k '/usr/share/sendmail/cf/README' and 'man sendmail' and a few .cf files. There must be a simple way to have a "development' machine that's on a private LAN which has internet access and DNS via a router, but is not allocated an FQDN. When I wasn't running 'inetd' everything was fine, but I'd like those services (ftp, Samba's swat, etc.) to be available to the other LAN machines. I also get the 'sendmail sleeping' message when the machine is booting because it can't find its FQDN. Can anyone help? Thanks, Doug ------------------------ I get this in my message log every 10 minutes: {Date} {hostname} inetd[PID]: netbios-ns/udp: bind: Address already in use {Date} {hostname} inetd[PID]: ssh/tcp: bind: Address already in use {Date} {hostname} inetd[PID]: ssh/tcp: bind: Address already in use ------------------------ "Networking and Services" part of my /etc/rc.conf: ifconfig_rl0="DHCP" # Handled by my ADSL router/modem hostname="beastie" sendmail_enable="NO" inetd_enable="YES" nfs_client_enable="YES" nfs_server_enable="YES" ntpdate_enable="YES" ntpdate_flags="-b tk1.ihug.co.nz" router_enable="NO" rpc_lockd_enable="YES" rpc_statd_enable="YES" rpcbind_enable="YES" sshd_enable="YES" usbd_enable="YES" dictd_enable="YES" mysql_enable="YES" mysql_dbdir="/bsd5/var/db/mysql" samba_enable="YES" apache_enable="YES" gdm_enable="YES" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Dec 16 00:31:06 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 04F8916A41F for ; Fri, 16 Dec 2005 00:31:06 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from rubenl@bloemgarten.demon.nl) Received: from post-22.mail.nl.demon.net (post-22.mail.nl.demon.net [194.159.73.192]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 95D9B43D45 for ; Fri, 16 Dec 2005 00:31:05 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from rubenl@bloemgarten.demon.nl) Received: from axelds.demon.nl ([83.160.138.74]:33453 helo=abubbletprpdda) by post-22.mail.nl.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1En3V2-0006Yt-Kt; Fri, 16 Dec 2005 00:31:04 +0000 From: "Ruben Bloemgarten" To: "'Doug Hawkins'" , Date: Fri, 16 Dec 2005 01:30:36 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook, Build 11.0.6353 In-Reply-To: <43A20874.1000109@gmail.com> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1506 Thread-Index: AcYB1rgaLAqGrVqeQEaOolEQtZ5HTwAAPzkg Message-Id: <20051216003105.95D9B43D45@mx1.FreeBSD.org> Cc: Subject: RE: Running sendmail w/o FQDN X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: ruben@bloemgarten.demon.nl List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 16 Dec 2005 00:31:06 -0000 It seems that you are trying to run samba and ssh both from inetd and independantly. Hence the bind:already in use. This is not sendmail related. Do you want to use sendmail as an mua or as an mta ? -----Original Message----- From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org [mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org] On Behalf Of Doug Hawkins Sent: December 16, 2005 1:21 AM To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Running sendmail w/o FQDN I am also having problems with sendmail configuration on my machine. I suppose it's all related to the fact that I don't have a fully qualified domain name (FQDN), but I have not been able to find a simple method to allow sendmail to operate as the "local message manager" without having a FQDN -- and not complain about it. I've skimmed the 180k '/usr/share/sendmail/cf/README' and 'man sendmail' and a few .cf files. There must be a simple way to have a "development' machine that's on a private LAN which has internet access and DNS via a router, but is not allocated an FQDN. When I wasn't running 'inetd' everything was fine, but I'd like those services (ftp, Samba's swat, etc.) to be available to the other LAN machines. I also get the 'sendmail sleeping' message when the machine is booting because it can't find its FQDN. Can anyone help? Thanks, Doug ------------------------ I get this in my message log every 10 minutes: {Date} {hostname} inetd[PID]: netbios-ns/udp: bind: Address already in use {Date} {hostname} inetd[PID]: ssh/tcp: bind: Address already in use {Date} {hostname} inetd[PID]: ssh/tcp: bind: Address already in use ------------------------ "Networking and Services" part of my /etc/rc.conf: ifconfig_rl0="DHCP" # Handled by my ADSL router/modem hostname="beastie" sendmail_enable="NO" inetd_enable="YES" nfs_client_enable="YES" nfs_server_enable="YES" ntpdate_enable="YES" ntpdate_flags="-b tk1.ihug.co.nz" router_enable="NO" rpc_lockd_enable="YES" rpc_statd_enable="YES" rpcbind_enable="YES" sshd_enable="YES" usbd_enable="YES" dictd_enable="YES" mysql_enable="YES" mysql_dbdir="/bsd5/var/db/mysql" samba_enable="YES" apache_enable="YES" gdm_enable="YES" _______________________________________________ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" -- No virus found in this incoming message. 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Version: 7.1.371 / Virus Database: 267.13.13/200 - Release Date: 12/14/2005 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Dec 16 00:36:43 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 624FE16A41F for ; Fri, 16 Dec 2005 00:36:43 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from smurphy@calarts.edu) Received: from muse.calarts.edu (muse.calarts.edu [198.182.157.5]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0343243D5C for ; Fri, 16 Dec 2005 00:36:42 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from smurphy@calarts.edu) Received: from [198.182.157.164] (dhcp7164.calarts.edu [198.182.157.164]) by muse.calarts.edu (8.11.7p1+Sun/8.11.7) with ESMTP id jBG0agh02822 for ; Thu, 15 Dec 2005 16:36:42 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <43A20C66.9010908@calarts.edu> Date: Thu, 15 Dec 2005 16:37:58 -0800 From: Sean Murphy User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5 (Windows/20051025) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: File Integrity Checker Do You? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 16 Dec 2005 00:36:43 -0000 Do you think products such as tripwire, YAFIC, and other file checkers are necessary? Especially since you must check the reports daily and update the database. They do put a high load on my systems when they run. How many SysAdmins use products such as these? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Dec 16 02:05:19 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A8B6016A41F for ; Fri, 16 Dec 2005 02:05:19 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from freebsd@sopwith.solgatos.com) Received: from schitzo.solgatos.com (c-67-168-241-176.hsd1.or.comcast.net [67.168.241.176]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 489A343D5F for ; Fri, 16 Dec 2005 02:05:18 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from freebsd@sopwith.solgatos.com) Received: from sopwith.solgatos.com (uucp@localhost) by schitzo.solgatos.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with UUCP id jBG25Uf18072 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Thu, 15 Dec 2005 18:05:30 -0800 Received: from localhost by sopwith.solgatos.com (8.8.8/6.24) id BAA11562; Fri, 16 Dec 2005 01:59:57 GMT Message-Id: <200512160159.BAA11562@sopwith.solgatos.com> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Thu, 15 Dec 2005 17:59:57 +0000 From: Dieter Subject: NCQ Re: Disk write caching, hw.ata.wc and atacontrol disagree) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd@sopwith.solgatos.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 16 Dec 2005 02:05:19 -0000 >> So hw.ata.wc thinks that the disk write cache is off, >> but atacontrol cap thinks the disk write cache is on? > I remember this is working but there was a reporting problem > in atacontrol. Looks like "atacontrol cap" reports the state of the disk *before* hw.ata.wc took effect. It would be less confusing if "atacontrol cap" reported the state of the disk at the time atacontrol is run. > You should easily be able to tell whether it is on or off by the > write performance. It should plummet by a factor of 4 or so. I'm seeing only ~10% of the performance I get with the write cache on. Which leads to: Feature Support Enable Value Vendor Native Command Queuing (NCQ) yes - 31/0x1F Where is the knob to turn on NCQ? My controller and disks claim to support it, but grepping the 6.0 man pages finds nothing. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Dec 16 02:46:05 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7EBDE16A420 for ; Fri, 16 Dec 2005 02:46:05 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from kkyriak@ee.duth.gr) Received: from mail.duth.gr (mail.duth.gr [192.108.114.110]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5B85F43D5D for ; Fri, 16 Dec 2005 02:46:03 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from kkyriak@ee.duth.gr) Received: from [192.168.1.7] (r-esties.xan.duth.gr [193.92.238.254]) (authenticated bits=0) by mail.duth.gr (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id jBG2jxc3096743 for ; Fri, 16 Dec 2005 04:46:01 +0200 (EET) (envelope-from kkyriak@ee.duth.gr) Message-ID: <43A22A68.7020300@ee.duth.gr> Date: Fri, 16 Dec 2005 04:46:00 +0200 From: kyr User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.6 (Windows/20050716) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-7; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.51 on 192.108.114.110 X-Greylist: Sender succeded SMTP AUTH authentication, not delayed by milter-greylist-1.6 (mail.duth.gr [192.108.114.110]); Fri, 16 Dec 2005 04:46:01 +0200 (EET) Subject: good nic for server??? 3com 3C2000-T driver support in freebsd 5.4 ???? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 16 Dec 2005 02:46:05 -0000 I want to ask if 3com 3C2000-T network adapter is suported by freebsd 5.4 (i know that it is suported by release 6 but our server has 5.4). Anyway does anybody have any suggestion for a good network card for a server? We DON"T need gigabit but if it worth the money ... ok thanks Kyriakos From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Dec 16 02:57:29 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 131E916A41F for ; Fri, 16 Dec 2005 02:57:29 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jfranks@inetassociation.com) Received: from ylpvm12.prodigy.net (ylpvm12-ext.prodigy.net [207.115.57.43]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DF19F43D45 for ; Fri, 16 Dec 2005 02:57:27 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jfranks@inetassociation.com) Received: from pimout5-ext.prodigy.net (pimout5-int.prodigy.net [207.115.4.21]) by ylpvm12.prodigy.net (8.12.10 outbound/8.12.10) with ESMTP id jBG2vQKI017734 for ; Thu, 15 Dec 2005 21:57:26 -0500 X-ORBL: [71.131.63.12] Received: from desktopjustin (adsl-71-131-63-12.dsl.sntc01.pacbell.net [71.131.63.12]) by pimout5-ext.prodigy.net (8.13.4 outbound domainkey aix/8.13.4) with ESMTP id jBG2vLnd097472 for ; Thu, 15 Dec 2005 21:57:25 -0500 Message-ID: <000b01c601ec$74486910$0200a8c0@desktopjustin> From: "Justin Franks" To: Date: Thu, 15 Dec 2005 18:57:24 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2527 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2527 Subject: Dual-core processors and FreeBSD 6.0 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 16 Dec 2005 02:57:29 -0000 Hello, I would like to know if FreeBSD 6.0 supports dual-core CPU chips. Note, dual-core is different from dual CPU. On Jun. 13, 2005 PT Wired magazine explained a dual-core CPU as the following in a article titled "The New Chips on the Block" "A dual-core processor differs from a single-core chip in that it has two physical computer processing unit, or CPU, cores on a single die." Link here: http://www.wired.com/news/infostructure/0,1377,67795,00.html -Justin Franks Ph: 415.261.0706 Fx: 925-935-6096 http://www.inetassociation.com From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Dec 16 03:09:15 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 83E6716A41F for ; Fri, 16 Dec 2005 03:09:15 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from dev@unixdaemon.org) Received: from skewer.dreamhost.com (skewer.dreamhost.com [64.111.107.13]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 447F843D4C for ; Fri, 16 Dec 2005 03:09:15 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from dev@unixdaemon.org) Received: from dracula (cpe-24-24-83-9.stny.res.rr.com [24.24.83.9]) by skewer.dreamhost.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6D8F47B547; Thu, 15 Dec 2005 19:09:14 -0800 (PST) From: Dev Tugnait To: Justin Franks In-Reply-To: <000b01c601ec$74486910$0200a8c0@desktopjustin> References: <000b01c601ec$74486910$0200a8c0@desktopjustin> Content-Type: text/plain Date: Thu, 15 Dec 2005 22:09:11 -0500 Message-Id: <1134702551.21995.9.camel@dracula> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.4.2.1 FreeBSD GNOME Team Port Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Dual-core processors and FreeBSD 6.0 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: dev@unixdaemon.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 16 Dec 2005 03:09:15 -0000 On Thu, 2005-12-15 at 18:57 -0800, Justin Franks wrote: > Hello, > I would like to know if FreeBSD 6.0 supports dual-core CPU chips. Yes > Note, dual-core is different from dual CPU. > On Jun. 13, 2005 PT Wired magazine explained a dual-core CPU as the following in a article titled "The New Chips on the Block" > "A dual-core processor differs from a single-core chip in that it has two physical computer processing unit, or CPU, cores on a > single die." > Link here: > http://www.wired.com/news/infostructure/0,1377,67795,00.html > > That googling energy should have been saved by visiting freebsd.org http://www.freebsd.org/platforms/amd64.html > > -Justin Franks > Ph: 415.261.0706 > Fx: 925-935-6096 > http://www.inetassociation.com > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" -- Dev Tugnait From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Dec 16 03:19:40 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D43C616A41F for ; Fri, 16 Dec 2005 03:19:40 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from freebsd@sopwith.solgatos.com) Received: from schitzo.solgatos.com (c-67-168-241-176.hsd1.or.comcast.net [67.168.241.176]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6E05543D46 for ; Fri, 16 Dec 2005 03:19:40 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from freebsd@sopwith.solgatos.com) Received: from sopwith.solgatos.com (uucp@localhost) by schitzo.solgatos.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with UUCP id jBG3Jqf18389 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Thu, 15 Dec 2005 19:19:52 -0800 Received: from localhost by sopwith.solgatos.com (8.8.8/6.24) id DAA13843; Fri, 16 Dec 2005 03:18:11 GMT Message-Id: <200512160318.DAA13843@sopwith.solgatos.com> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Thu, 15 Dec 2005 19:18:11 +0000 From: Dieter Subject: chroot and /dev X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd@sopwith.solgatos.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 16 Dec 2005 03:19:40 -0000 How does one provide one or two devices, e.g. /dev/null for a chroot environment? Device nodes created by mknod do not work. mount_devfs creates an entire device tree, negating the security of the chroot. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Dec 16 03:23:41 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 16E4216A41F for ; Fri, 16 Dec 2005 03:23:41 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from kris@obsecurity.org) Received: from elvis.mu.org (elvis.mu.org [192.203.228.196]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6F92443D66 for ; Fri, 16 Dec 2005 03:23:40 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from kris@obsecurity.org) Received: from obsecurity.dyndns.org (elvis.mu.org [192.203.228.196]) by elvis.mu.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 376351A3C1C; Thu, 15 Dec 2005 19:23:40 -0800 (PST) Received: by obsecurity.dyndns.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id E920C514D7; Thu, 15 Dec 2005 22:23:38 -0500 (EST) Date: Thu, 15 Dec 2005 22:23:38 -0500 From: Kris Kennaway To: Dieter Message-ID: <20051216032338.GA41927@xor.obsecurity.org> References: <200512160318.DAA13843@sopwith.solgatos.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="tThc/1wpZn/ma/RB" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <200512160318.DAA13843@sopwith.solgatos.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: chroot and /dev X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 16 Dec 2005 03:23:41 -0000 --tThc/1wpZn/ma/RB Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Thu, Dec 15, 2005 at 07:18:11PM +0000, Dieter wrote: > How does one provide one or two devices, e.g. /dev/null > for a chroot environment? >=20 > Device nodes created by mknod do not work. >=20 > mount_devfs creates an entire device tree, negating > the security of the chroot. See the jail manpage (jail is better than chroot if security is your goal). Kris --tThc/1wpZn/ma/RB Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.2 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFDojM5Wry0BWjoQKURAksoAJ4t04Ee5iO90JPClcSqeavGyouNlwCg3f5k KO79Zcpnj41AGf/BqnFwpzw= =dkXg -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --tThc/1wpZn/ma/RB-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Dec 16 04:31:38 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BCD5916A41F for ; Fri, 16 Dec 2005 04:31:38 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from georgevarshock@cox.net) Received: from fed1rmmtao09.cox.net (fed1rmmtao09.cox.net [68.230.241.30]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 36C2243D5D for ; Fri, 16 Dec 2005 04:31:38 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from georgevarshock@cox.net) Received: from [172.18.180.8] (really [172.18.180.14]) by fed1rmmtao09.cox.net (InterMail vM.6.01.05.02 201-2131-123-102-20050715) with SMTP id <20051216043140.GXFA25099.fed1rmmtao09.cox.net@[172.18.180.8]>; Thu, 15 Dec 2005 23:31:40 -0500 X-Mailer: Openwave WebEngine, version 2.8.15 (webedge20-101-1103-20040528) From: To: Date: Thu, 15 Dec 2005 23:28:35 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <20051216043140.GXFA25099.fed1rmmtao09.cox.net@[172.18.180.8]> Subject: Ebay Auction Win X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 16 Dec 2005 04:31:38 -0000 Dear CatBecca, I won you Ebay Auction for a Jolly N----- Bank. 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Sincerely, George Varshock geological1 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Dec 16 04:33:24 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6BF7916A41F for ; Fri, 16 Dec 2005 04:33:24 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from georgevarshock@cox.net) Received: from fed1rmmtao08.cox.net (fed1rmmtao08.cox.net [68.230.241.31]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6AB3843D68 for ; Fri, 16 Dec 2005 04:33:23 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from georgevarshock@cox.net) Received: from [172.18.180.8] (really [172.18.180.14]) by fed1rmmtao08.cox.net (InterMail vM.6.01.05.02 201-2131-123-102-20050715) with SMTP id <20051216043149.ZHKW26964.fed1rmmtao08.cox.net@[172.18.180.8]>; Thu, 15 Dec 2005 23:31:49 -0500 X-Mailer: Openwave WebEngine, version 2.8.15 (webedge20-101-1103-20040528) From: To: , Date: Thu, 15 Dec 2005 23:30:19 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <20051216043149.ZHKW26964.fed1rmmtao08.cox.net@[172.18.180.8]> Cc: Subject: Re: Ebay Auction Win- Item 6574118600 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 16 Dec 2005 04:33:24 -0000 Ebay Item #6574118600 > > From: > Date: 2005/12/15 Thu PM 11:28:35 EST > To: > Subject: Ebay Auction Win > > Dear CatBecca, > I won you Ebay Auction for a Jolly N----- Bank. I paid and would like to receive this item. > > Sincerely, > George Varshock > geological1 > > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Dec 16 04:51:05 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B9BA816A41F for ; Fri, 16 Dec 2005 04:51:05 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from kris@obsecurity.org) Received: from elvis.mu.org (elvis.mu.org [192.203.228.196]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7369443D58 for ; Fri, 16 Dec 2005 04:51:05 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from kris@obsecurity.org) Received: from obsecurity.dyndns.org (elvis.mu.org [192.203.228.196]) by elvis.mu.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 546141A3C23; Thu, 15 Dec 2005 20:51:05 -0800 (PST) Received: by obsecurity.dyndns.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 5939E54A9D; Thu, 15 Dec 2005 23:51:03 -0500 (EST) Date: Thu, 15 Dec 2005 23:51:00 -0500 From: Kris Kennaway To: georgevarshock@cox.net Message-ID: <20051216045059.GA69605@xor.obsecurity.org> References: <20051216043149.ZHKW26964.fed1rmmtao08.cox.net@[172.18.180.8]> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="6TrnltStXW4iwmi0" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20051216043149.ZHKW26964.fed1rmmtao08.cox.net@[172.18.180.8]> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Ebay Auction Win- Item 6574118600 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 16 Dec 2005 04:51:05 -0000 --6TrnltStXW4iwmi0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Thu, Dec 15, 2005 at 11:30:19PM -0500, georgevarshock@cox.net wrote: > Ebay Item #6574118600 > >=20 > > From: > > Date: 2005/12/15 Thu PM 11:28:35 EST > > To: > > Subject: Ebay Auction Win > >=20 > > Dear CatBecca, > > I won you Ebay Auction for a Jolly N----- Bank. I paid and would like = to receive this item. > >=20 > > Sincerely, > > George Varshock > > geological1 The mind boggles how you managed to screw up this email :) Kris --6TrnltStXW4iwmi0 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.2 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFDokezWry0BWjoQKURAkgtAKCPMdj6tJT9decf5q1zGWUysSrToACdGn9Q W+TxMu/L22xy0nslobT318M= =BLBv -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --6TrnltStXW4iwmi0-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Dec 16 05:51:17 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DB9FC16A41F for ; Fri, 16 Dec 2005 05:51:17 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from dkelly@HiWAAY.net) Received: from smtp.knology.net (smtp.knology.net [24.214.63.101]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 07EEA43D55 for ; Fri, 16 Dec 2005 05:51:15 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from dkelly@HiWAAY.net) Received: (qmail 14290 invoked by uid 0); 16 Dec 2005 05:51:14 -0000 Received: from user-69-73-60-132.knology.net (HELO ?10.0.0.6?) (69.73.60.132) by smtp1.knology.net with SMTP; 16 Dec 2005 05:51:14 -0000 In-Reply-To: <43A22A68.7020300@ee.duth.gr> References: <43A22A68.7020300@ee.duth.gr> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v746.2) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: David Kelly Date: Thu, 15 Dec 2005 23:51:15 -0600 To: kyr X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.746.2) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: good nic for server??? 3com 3C2000-T driver support in freebsd 5.4 ???? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 16 Dec 2005 05:51:18 -0000 On Dec 15, 2005, at 8:46 PM, kyr wrote: > I want to ask if 3com 3C2000-T network adapter is suported by > freebsd 5.4 (i know that it is suported by release 6 but our server > has 5.4). > Anyway does anybody have any suggestion for a good network card for > a server? > We DON"T need gigabit but if it worth the money ... ok My favorite NIC is the Intel Etherexpress products. This 10/100 PCI card is often found used for $5. IIRC back in the days when ftp.cdrom.com was setting single-machine 24 hour anonymous ftp server world records it was using these NICs. Another nice thing is former FreeBSDers apparently liked it well enough when they went to Apple that MacOS X automagically uses this non-Mac PC card with no additional drivers or nothing. And if one *must* use Windows the download-from-Intel drivers add significantly more function than the default Microsoft driver, such as VLAN support. -- David Kelly N4HHE, dkelly@HiWAAY.net ======================================================================== Whom computers would destroy, they must first drive mad. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Dec 16 05:54:01 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E7E1816A41F for ; Fri, 16 Dec 2005 05:54:01 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from anirban.adhikary@gmail.com) Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.206]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7CFE443D4C for ; Fri, 16 Dec 2005 05:53:59 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from anirban.adhikary@gmail.com) Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 8so544433nzo for ; Thu, 15 Dec 2005 21:53:59 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type; b=BuZtHtusVi26ikODiZmryHkrjWM+5nsANMJT9ZrPybguHa48iDCkLaxydq8HS2EyGKZgDkumt7ocltU3Nv/zTj6/RagX0uynmVS5DCZi4WbYUdOWVlQTd4FnlGYuVxttyxL1zsskRKpQ66fy5V0TcNjDy8tVlQcODrJEvWxcxf0= Received: by 10.36.71.10 with SMTP id t10mr2635309nza; Thu, 15 Dec 2005 21:53:58 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.36.220.80 with HTTP; Thu, 15 Dec 2005 21:53:58 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <71c73b070512152153h507fae3eo22e3b2d52df1202f@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 16 Dec 2005 11:23:58 +0530 From: Anirban Adhikary To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: shell script doesnot executing X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 16 Dec 2005 05:54:02 -0000 Hi guys This is Anirban here. I have the problem again with the previous shell script.Which was Write a shell script that will check whether a server is up or not(on ping) & log the report to a file. I have tried to write the program in the following way #! /bin/sh echo -n "Enter the IP or Hostname of the Server" read host #echo $host ping -c2 $host &>file2 if [ $? =3D 0 ];then echo "Server is up and working" $host else echo"Server is not up and not working" $host fi But when I am trying to execute the program in the case when the server is not up it is showing The server is up and running but from the ping statistics it is showing tha= t 100% loss is occured.I am not able to point the problem.(i used the chmod 755 filename before executing the program) Please help me.And one more thing is there any other option to check the connectivity without ping command? with regards Anirban From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Dec 16 06:18:52 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7701916A41F for ; Fri, 16 Dec 2005 06:18:52 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from slaveszeroes@gmail.com) Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.192]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DED7943D53 for ; Fri, 16 Dec 2005 06:18:51 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from slaveszeroes@gmail.com) Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 8so547365nzo for ; Thu, 15 Dec 2005 22:18:51 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; b=al11o2jJBdUask4h4Uca8SZXT0qg0PaSAysawA7YsUHAs3yb/D8Ljo+URtM3DxWFzt2aCEITkHY4YZo+FtaQiw5hMbY+NtBgoTMftOrcOjgpKh1Tk9V7FSslueJynehi8vDj2c3RqA6EvUyPuH0f3itUow2N/WkowNTXxFL0fRE= Received: by 10.36.71.10 with SMTP id t10mr2649246nza; Thu, 15 Dec 2005 22:18:51 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.36.133.1 with HTTP; Thu, 15 Dec 2005 22:18:51 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: Date: Fri, 16 Dec 2005 13:18:51 +0700 From: RdBSD To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline Subject: FreeBSD 5.4 smbfs problem X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 16 Dec 2005 06:18:52 -0000 Dear All, My last email about mounting FreeBSD 6.0 stable box to our NT system has a problem. And now I've been downgrading to 5.4. The problem's gone. Is this a bug in FreeBSD 6.0 System ? Now i can mount our NT system from freeBSD 5.4Stable box, but i have a litle problem. I see in kernel log say : smb_maperror: Unmapped error 1:158 this log appear when i try to mounting and execute excel file from NT share. Then excel say something like sharing violation error ? Is this some kernel errors or samba errors ? Thanks for helping me. Rd BSD From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Dec 16 06:34:46 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4570616A41F for ; Fri, 16 Dec 2005 06:34:46 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from chad@shire.net) Received: from hobbiton.shire.net (mail.freestylefund.com [166.70.252.250]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F0B7143D4C for ; Fri, 16 Dec 2005 06:34:45 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from chad@shire.net) Received: from [67.161.222.227] (helo=[192.168.99.68]) by hobbiton.shire.net with esmtpa (Exim 4.51) id 1En9Az-000BFp-1T; Thu, 15 Dec 2005 23:34:45 -0700 In-Reply-To: <20051216045059.GA69605@xor.obsecurity.org> References: <20051216043149.ZHKW26964.fed1rmmtao08.cox.net@[172.18.180.8]> <20051216045059.GA69605@xor.obsecurity.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v746.2) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: "Chad Leigh -- Shire.Net LLC" Date: Thu, 15 Dec 2005 23:34:44 -0700 To: georgevarshock@cox.net X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.746.2) X-SA-Exim-Connect-IP: 67.161.222.227 X-SA-Exim-Mail-From: chad@shire.net X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No (on hobbiton.shire.net); SAEximRunCond expanded to false Cc: Free BSD Questions list Subject: Re: Ebay Auction Win- Item 6574118600 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 16 Dec 2005 06:34:46 -0000 On Dec 15, 2005, at 9:51 PM, Kris Kennaway wrote: > On Thu, Dec 15, 2005 at 11:30:19PM -0500, georgevarshock@cox.net > wrote: >> Ebay Item #6574118600 >>> >>> From: >>> Date: 2005/12/15 Thu PM 11:28:35 EST >>> To: >>> Subject: Ebay Auction Win >>> >>> Dear CatBecca, >>> I won you Ebay Auction for a Jolly N----- Bank. I paid and would >>> like to receive this item. >>> >>> Sincerely, >>> George Varshock >>> geological1 > > The mind boggles how you managed to screw up this email :) I agree! It would be interesting to know how it happened... Relevant info for those whose interest was piqued by this though (besides looking at the auction itself which is real): Chad > > Kris --- Chad Leigh -- Shire.Net LLC Your Web App and Email hosting provider chad at shire.net From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Dec 16 06:34:53 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DEE6416A41F for ; Fri, 16 Dec 2005 06:34:53 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from fquest@ccstores.com) Received: from mail.qcislands.net (mail.qcislands.net [209.53.238.3]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 704D943D58 for ; Fri, 16 Dec 2005 06:34:53 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from fquest@ccstores.com) Received: from 100-58-114-64.qcislands.net ([64.114.58.100] helo=[127.0.0.1]) by mail.qcislands.net with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1En9B5-000Dpw-Da; Thu, 15 Dec 2005 22:34:52 -0800 Message-ID: <43A26004.3010105@ccstores.com> Date: Thu, 15 Dec 2005 22:34:44 -0800 From: Jim Pazarena User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.6 (Windows/20050716) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: FreeBSD questions Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-local_scan: locally submitted (00) Subject: atheros wireless setup X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 16 Dec 2005 06:34:54 -0000 I can't believe how incredibly easy it was to get the wireless going in my laptop. add: if_ath_load="YES" to /boot/loader.conf and: ifconfig_ath0="dhcp" to /etc/rc.conf and it "works" ! please tell me where I can read up on how to "control" the wireless link. Such as how to enter the "SSID", and connect speed etc. Thanks! Jim From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Dec 16 06:39:50 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E744916A41F for ; Fri, 16 Dec 2005 06:39:50 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from smaginnity@ccw.vic.edu.au) Received: from ccw.vic.edu.au (34.38.220.203.comindico.com.au [203.220.38.34]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 32FB243D53 for ; Fri, 16 Dec 2005 06:39:47 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from smaginnity@ccw.vic.edu.au) Received: from [10.140.140.69] (smg.ccw.vic.edu.au [10.140.140.69]) by ccw.vic.edu.au (Postfix) with ESMTP id A2F5464948 for ; Fri, 16 Dec 2005 15:32:35 +1100 (EST) User-Agent: Microsoft-Entourage/11.1.0.040913 Date: Fri, 16 Dec 2005 15:32:33 +1100 From: Simon Maginnity To: Message-ID: Mime-version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: Download the whole ports tree X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 16 Dec 2005 06:39:51 -0000 Hi everyone, I have unlimited bandwidth for the next month or so and will not have access to the net again for a few month=B9s after January. What I would like to do is grab a copy of the whole freeBSD ports tree while I can, so I can just play with different programs and things at will on a tes= t server. Really just for my own amusement. Is it possible to get a copy of the whole ports tree down if I have enough free space etc etc, or just a copy of one branch like www??? Thanks From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Dec 16 06:56:21 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4D94B16A41F for ; Fri, 16 Dec 2005 06:56:21 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jeff.hamann@forestinformatics.com) Received: from stimpy.forestinformatics.com (cvo-cr1-200-239.peak.org [69.59.200.239]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B16B443D53 for ; Fri, 16 Dec 2005 06:56:20 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jeff.hamann@forestinformatics.com) Received: from mothra (rodan [192.168.0.11]) by stimpy.forestinformatics.com (8.12.9/8.12.9) with SMTP id jBG6uGOo046847 for ; Thu, 15 Dec 2005 22:56:17 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jeff.hamann@forestinformatics.com) Message-ID: <001501c6020d$d404e9c0$0c00a8c0@mothra> From: "Jeff D. Hamann" To: Date: Thu, 15 Dec 2005 22:54:28 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2670 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2670 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.64 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.64 (2004-01-11) on stimpy.forestinformatics.com Subject: argh with freebsd's networking! X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 16 Dec 2005 06:56:21 -0000 I've been a big fan of FreeBSD for a few years now, expect for the fact that getting a NIC is always a gamble. Since time is limtied (and most costly) I can't afford to spend another minute trying to get my new laptop up and running with FreeBSD. I've recently purchased a laptop (sager 3880 -- very nice so far) and have had no success getting either the rj-45 network interface ot the wireless interface (Intel 2915abg) to work. When I run the install, it does detect a ethernet-firewire device (fwe0) and I have no idea how to use that. Regardless, I've found a couple of references to the to the network drivers found at http://damien.bergamini.free.fr/ipw/iwi-freebsd.html the instructions seem to be clear enough but the problem is is that I don't have any network connection so I can't install ports and packages. I can't find instructions clear enough to be able to at least get one of the network devices running Are not sure which set of instructions are the appropriate ones. I've got an old PC card wireless network card (netgear ma401 -- 16-bit) and tried to hook that up to my network which has wep security and had difficulty getting that to work. I'm experienced enough to be able to recompile the kernel so if that's the hang up that's no problem but I simply need a way to get either support or the package onto the machine. Unfortunately the machine doesn't have a floppy drive and the USB support seems to be shaky at best so I've created a dual boot machine with the fat32 file system to it least get files into FreeBSD. I've wasted at least a day and a half on this and I can't spend anymore time on this and I'm getting really bummed since I won't be able to run FreeBSD on the new machine. If anyone has any meaningful assistance in getting the wireless or the wired ethernet working please assist. I'm using FreeBSD 6.0 i386. I downloaded the ISO images last week. I would love to recompile the kernel so that neither works. Thanks, Jeff. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Dec 16 06:57:47 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BCB9A16A41F for ; Fri, 16 Dec 2005 06:57:47 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from no-spam@swiftdsl.com.au) Received: from smtp.ade.swiftdsl.com.au (smtp.ade.swiftdsl.com.au [218.214.228.98]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id B8BA043D66 for ; Fri, 16 Dec 2005 06:57:46 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from no-spam@swiftdsl.com.au) Received: (qmail 18420 invoked from network); 16 Dec 2005 06:57:47 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO daemon.foo.lan) (218.214.176.70) by smtp.ade.swiftdsl.com.au with SMTP; 16 Dec 2005 06:57:47 -0000 From: Ian Moore To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Fri, 16 Dec 2005 17:27:36 +1030 User-Agent: KMail/1.8.3 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="nextPart8468949.JrdPfzfmu1"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=pgp-sha1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <200512161727.43205.no-spam@swiftdsl.com.au> Subject: Patching a port X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 16 Dec 2005 06:57:47 -0000 --nextPart8468949.JrdPfzfmu1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline Hi, I'm having some trouble with the www/sarg port. The writer has sent me a=20 couple of .patch files to apply and I'm wondering if there's some way to=20 apply those patches and still use the ports system to build & install the=20 port. I know the source code installs stuff in places that aren't the standard FB= SD=20 locations - I assume they are the norm for Linux. The port fixes that and=20 puts stuff where we expect it to be. It would make life easier if I could apply the patches and then build the p= ort=20 in the normal way so everything ends up in the same place & I won't have=20 stuff left over when I update next time. Cheers, =2D-=20 Ian gpg key: http://home.swiftdsl.com.au/~imoore/no-spam.asc --nextPart8468949.JrdPfzfmu1 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.2 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQBDomVnPUlnmbKkJ6ARArN1AJ4qeaZ1E9FnwXFq1TwETe1rMn0EMQCgi+G0 VeHce82CwgR5RvPLNjwg0is= =FnDV -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --nextPart8468949.JrdPfzfmu1-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Dec 16 07:01:38 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C719116A41F for ; Fri, 16 Dec 2005 07:01:38 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from kris@obsecurity.org) Received: from elvis.mu.org (elvis.mu.org [192.203.228.196]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 806F443D5E for ; Fri, 16 Dec 2005 07:01:38 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from kris@obsecurity.org) Received: from obsecurity.dyndns.org (elvis.mu.org [192.203.228.196]) by elvis.mu.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 64A181A3C22; Thu, 15 Dec 2005 23:01:38 -0800 (PST) Received: by obsecurity.dyndns.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 8F967519E7; Fri, 16 Dec 2005 02:01:37 -0500 (EST) Date: Fri, 16 Dec 2005 02:01:37 -0500 From: Kris Kennaway To: Simon Maginnity Message-ID: <20051216070137.GA55600@xor.obsecurity.org> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="X1bOJ3K7DJ5YkBrT" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Download the whole ports tree X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 16 Dec 2005 07:01:38 -0000 --X1bOJ3K7DJ5YkBrT Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Fri, Dec 16, 2005 at 03:32:33PM +1100, Simon Maginnity wrote: > Hi everyone, > I have unlimited bandwidth for the next month or so a= nd > will not have access to the net again for a few month?s after January. Wh= at > I would like to do is grab a copy of the whole freeBSD ports tree while I > can, so I can just play with different programs and things at will on a t= est > server. Really just for my own amusement. >=20 > Is it possible to get a copy of the whole ports tree down if I have enough > free space etc etc, or just a copy of one branch like www??? The ports tree is not all that large..are you asking about fetching every port distfile? Kris --X1bOJ3K7DJ5YkBrT Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.2 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFDomZRWry0BWjoQKURAm1TAKC1SsXJ5FdHbYEIXz+zOkEHoG7CZwCfRgaN CWvdX9RXZM3ZKCuozuAksqk= =xIWI -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --X1bOJ3K7DJ5YkBrT-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Dec 16 07:27:44 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1C37316A41F for ; Fri, 16 Dec 2005 07:27:44 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from no-spam@swiftdsl.com.au) Received: from smtp.ade.swiftdsl.com.au (smtp.ade.swiftdsl.com.au [218.214.228.98]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 7F94643D5D for ; Fri, 16 Dec 2005 07:27:41 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from no-spam@swiftdsl.com.au) Received: (qmail 18584 invoked from network); 16 Dec 2005 07:27:42 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO daemon.foo.lan) (218.214.176.70) by smtp.ade.swiftdsl.com.au with SMTP; 16 Dec 2005 07:27:42 -0000 From: Ian Moore To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Fri, 16 Dec 2005 17:57:30 +1030 User-Agent: KMail/1.8.3 References: <200512150912.15860.kirk@strauser.com> <9415.38.112.155.126.1134659912.squirrel@www.keyslapper.net> <200512150942.01196.kirk@strauser.com> In-Reply-To: <200512150942.01196.kirk@strauser.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="nextPart2621513.KyvusfmCE0"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=pgp-sha1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <200512161757.39067.no-spam@swiftdsl.com.au> Cc: Subject: Re: KDE 3.5 status? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 16 Dec 2005 07:27:44 -0000 --nextPart2621513.KyvusfmCE0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="cp 850" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline On Friday 16 December 2005 02:11, Kirk Strauser wrote: > On Thursday 15 December 2005 09:18, Louis J. LeBlanc wrote: > > Perhaps here: > > http://freebsd.kde.org/ > > Nothing there... > > > Try updating your ports directory, and if it's not there, you might try > > the port maintainer. > > ...and it's not in ports yet. I'd rather the maintainer be spending his > time on the port than answer my emails, so I'll go back to waiting > patiently. Latest news from the kde-freebsd list: > Porting is progressing, but slowly (for a number of technical and > non-technical reasons). >=20 > It is possible that we might end up skipping KDE 3.5 completely and go > with KDE 3.5.1 when it's released - judging from what problems have > surfaced during porting already and the steady stream of bugs being > discovered on other platforms which already ship KDE 3.5, it seems that > this release might just not be worth the trouble. According to an earlier post, Michael (the port maintainer) has been sick a= nd=20 was only able to start work on it a few days after the release date. It loo= ks=20 like this release is going to be a lot slower than normal. Cheers, =2D-=20 Ian gpg key: http://home.swiftdsl.com.au/~imoore/no-spam.asc --nextPart2621513.KyvusfmCE0 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.2 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQBDomxrPUlnmbKkJ6ARAsz+AJ9D4HX/Q3QsgZVZyIL3SQC0C/nqQwCeKymR fTl3wmYSevWnzQujK2aXiH0= =EI8N -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --nextPart2621513.KyvusfmCE0-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Dec 16 07:50:52 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7C1FA16A41F for ; Fri, 16 Dec 2005 07:50:52 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@m.gmane.org) Received: from ciao.gmane.org (main.gmane.org [80.91.229.2]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CD44843D4C for ; Fri, 16 Dec 2005 07:50:51 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@m.gmane.org) Received: from list by ciao.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.43) id 1EnALO-0008S0-Q5 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Fri, 16 Dec 2005 08:49:34 +0100 Received: from port-212-202-34-162.dynamic.qsc.de ([212.202.34.162]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Fri, 16 Dec 2005 08:49:34 +0100 Received: from Markus by port-212-202-34-162.dynamic.qsc.de with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Fri, 16 Dec 2005 08:49:34 +0100 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: Markus Trippelsdorf Date: Fri, 16 Dec 2005 07:48:08 +0000 (UTC) Lines: 16 Message-ID: References: <200512161727.43205.no-spam@swiftdsl.com.au> X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: port-212-202-34-162.dynamic.qsc.de User-Agent: slrn/0.9.8.1 (FreeBSD) Sender: news Subject: Re: Patching a port X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 16 Dec 2005 07:50:52 -0000 On 2005-12-16, Ian Moore wrote: > I'm having some trouble with the www/sarg port. The writer has sent me a=20 > couple of .patch files to apply and I'm wondering if there's some way to=20 > apply those patches and still use the ports system to build & install the=20 > port. > I know the source code installs stuff in places that aren't the standard FB= > SD=20 > locations - I assume they are the norm for Linux. The port fixes that and=20 > puts stuff where we expect it to be. > It would make life easier if I could apply the patches and then build the p= > ort=20 make patch -apply your patches- make install clean -- Markus From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Dec 16 07:50:56 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 68B2916A41F for ; Fri, 16 Dec 2005 07:50:56 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from bsdlists@sbcglobal.net) Received: from smtp102.sbc.mail.mud.yahoo.com (smtp102.sbc.mail.mud.yahoo.com [68.142.198.201]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id E1B4343D5E for ; Fri, 16 Dec 2005 07:50:55 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from bsdlists@sbcglobal.net) Received: (qmail 85107 invoked from network); 16 Dec 2005 07:50:51 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?127.0.0.1?) (calartstech@sbcglobal.net@68.127.38.82 with plain) by smtp102.sbc.mail.mud.yahoo.com with SMTP; 16 Dec 2005 07:50:51 -0000 Message-ID: <43A271D5.9030403@sbcglobal.net> Date: Thu, 15 Dec 2005 23:50:45 -0800 From: Jose Borquez User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.7 (Windows/20050923) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: FreeBSD Questions group Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: mod_php5 does not configure Apache httpd.conf X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 16 Dec 2005 07:50:56 -0000 The FreeBSD handbook says if you install mod_php5 it should modify the httpd.conf file to enable support for php5, but it does not happen. The handbooks says it should add this: DirectoryIndex index.php index.html I only see: DirectoryIndex index.php index.php3 index.html index.htm DirectoryIndex index.php3 index.html index.htm DirectoryIndex index.php index.html index.htm DirectoryIndex index.html Do I need to enter it manually? It should also add this: AddType application/x-httpd-php .php AddType application/x-httpd-php-source .phps I only see this in the config: AddType application/x-httpd-php3 .php3 AddType application/x-httpd-php3-source .php3s AddType application/x-httpd-php .php AddType application/x-httpd-php-source .phps I'm quite confused. Could someone please shed some light on this? Thanks in advance, Jose From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Dec 16 07:51:28 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DDFC016A41F for ; Fri, 16 Dec 2005 07:51:28 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from hde@daden.net) Received: from mail.ruder.net (216-166-252-178.dsl.peknil.grics.net [216.166.252.178]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6A75F43D5A for ; Fri, 16 Dec 2005 07:51:27 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from hde@daden.net) Received: from 12.203.202.40 ([12.203.202.40]) by mail.ruder.net ([192.168.10.10]) with Microsoft Exchange Server HTTP-DAV ; Fri, 16 Dec 2005 07:51:22 +0000 Received: from devilBSD.freeBSD by mail.daden.net; 16 Dec 2005 01:51:22 -0600 From: "Harley D. Eades III" To: Anirban Adhikary In-Reply-To: <71c73b070512152153h507fae3eo22e3b2d52df1202f@mail.gmail.com> References: <71c73b070512152153h507fae3eo22e3b2d52df1202f@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Date: Fri, 16 Dec 2005 01:51:22 -0600 Message-Id: <1134719482.34653.30.camel@devilBSD.freeBSD> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.2.1.1 FreeBSD GNOME Team Port Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: shell script doesnot executing X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 16 Dec 2005 07:51:29 -0000 On Fri, 2005-12-16 at 11:23 +0530, Anirban Adhikary wrote: > Hi guys > This is Anirban here. I have the problem again with the previous shell > script.Which was > Write a shell script that will check whether a server is up or not(on ping) > & log the report to a file. > > I have tried to write the program in the following way > > #! /bin/sh > echo -n "Enter the IP or Hostname of the Server" > read host > #echo $host > ping -c2 $host &>file2 > if [ $? = 0 ];then The problem is you're checking the exit status of ping, even if the host is down ping is exiting with a successful status. You need to use sed or awk or something similiar to test for replys. -- Harley -----BEGIN GEEK CODE BLOCK----- G: GCS-- d- a? C++++ B- E+++ W+++ N++ w--- X+++ b++ G e* r x+ z+++++ ------END GEEK CODE BLOCK------ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Dec 16 07:54:45 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 46A2F16A41F for ; Fri, 16 Dec 2005 07:54:45 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from krinklyfig@comcast.net) Received: from sccrmhc14.comcast.net (sccrmhc14.comcast.net [63.240.77.84]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CEAD843D5E for ; Fri, 16 Dec 2005 07:54:44 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from krinklyfig@comcast.net) Received: from smogmonster.local (pcp0010916331pcs.albqrq01.nm.comcast.net[68.35.114.183]) by comcast.net (sccrmhc14) with ESMTP id <20051216075443014002vrmre>; Fri, 16 Dec 2005 07:54:43 +0000 From: Joshua Tinnin To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Fri, 16 Dec 2005 00:54:41 -0700 User-Agent: KMail/1.8.3 References: <001501c6020d$d404e9c0$0c00a8c0@mothra> In-Reply-To: <001501c6020d$d404e9c0$0c00a8c0@mothra> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200512160054.43075.krinklyfig@comcast.net> Subject: Re: argh with freebsd's networking! X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 16 Dec 2005 07:54:45 -0000 On Thu 15 Dec 05 23:54, "Jeff D. Hamann" wrote: > I've been a big fan of FreeBSD for a few years now, expect for the > fact that getting a NIC is always a gamble. Since time is limtied > (and most costly) I can't afford to spend another minute trying to > get my new laptop up and running with FreeBSD. > > I've recently purchased a laptop (sager 3880 -- very nice so far) and > have had no success getting either the rj-45 network interface Well, after a bit of searching it seems you have Marvell Yukon Gigabit ethernet. I have a similar controller on my Asus motherboard, and it works with: device sk in the kernel config. However, I am not positive this driver will work for you, as the chipset is slightly different. > I've got an old PC card > wireless network card (netgear ma401 -- 16-bit) and tried to hook > that up to my network which has wep security and had difficulty > getting that to work. I'm experienced enough to be able to recompile > the kernel so if that's the hang up that's no problem but I simply > need a way to get either support or the package onto the machine. I am not very familiar with wireless and FreeBSD, but as a last resort you can always get a cheap PCMCIA ethernet or wireless card which you know to work with FreeBSD. - jt From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Dec 16 07:59:46 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 00C3B16A41F for ; Fri, 16 Dec 2005 07:59:46 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from hde@daden.net) Received: from mail.ruder.net (216-166-252-178.dsl.peknil.grics.net [216.166.252.178]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E152D43D68 for ; Fri, 16 Dec 2005 07:59:43 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from hde@daden.net) Received: from 12.203.202.40 ([12.203.202.40]) by mail.ruder.net ([192.168.10.10]) with Microsoft Exchange Server HTTP-DAV ; Fri, 16 Dec 2005 07:59:43 +0000 Received: from devilBSD.freeBSD by mail.daden.net; 16 Dec 2005 01:59:42 -0600 From: "Harley D. Eades III" To: Anirban Adhikary In-Reply-To: <1134719482.34653.30.camel@devilBSD.freeBSD> References: <71c73b070512152153h507fae3eo22e3b2d52df1202f@mail.gmail.com> <1134719482.34653.30.camel@devilBSD.freeBSD> Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Date: Fri, 16 Dec 2005 01:59:42 -0600 Message-Id: <1134719982.34653.33.camel@devilBSD.freeBSD> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.2.1.1 FreeBSD GNOME Team Port Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: shell script doesnot executing X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 16 Dec 2005 07:59:46 -0000 On Fri, 2005-12-16 at 01:51 -0600, Harley D. Eades III wrote: > On Fri, 2005-12-16 at 11:23 +0530, Anirban Adhikary wrote: > > Hi guys > > This is Anirban here. I have the problem again with the previous shell > > script.Which was > > Write a shell script that will check whether a server is up or not(on ping) > > & log the report to a file. > > > > I have tried to write the program in the following way > > > > #! /bin/sh > > echo -n "Enter the IP or Hostname of the Server" > > read host > > #echo $host > > ping -c2 $host &>file2 > > if [ $? = 0 ];then > The problem is you're checking the exit status of ping, even if the host > is down ping is exiting with a successful status. You need to use sed > or awk or something similiar to test for replys. Actually, I just tested this and I am wrong. Ping does exit with a error status when there are no replys sorry. -- Harley -----BEGIN GEEK CODE BLOCK----- G: GCS-- d- a? C++++ B- E+++ W+++ N++ w--- X+++ b++ G e* r x+ z+++++ ------END GEEK CODE BLOCK------ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Dec 16 08:11:01 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7F79616A423 for ; Fri, 16 Dec 2005 08:11:01 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from hde@daden.net) Received: from mail.ruder.net (216-166-252-178.dsl.peknil.grics.net [216.166.252.178]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0618743D46 for ; Fri, 16 Dec 2005 08:11:00 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from hde@daden.net) Received: from 12.203.202.40 ([12.203.202.40]) by mail.ruder.net ([192.168.10.10]) with Microsoft Exchange Server HTTP-DAV ; Fri, 16 Dec 2005 08:10:54 +0000 Received: from devilBSD.freeBSD by mail.daden.net; 16 Dec 2005 02:10:54 -0600 From: "Harley D. Eades III" To: Anirban Adhikary In-Reply-To: <71c73b070512152153h507fae3eo22e3b2d52df1202f@mail.gmail.com> References: <71c73b070512152153h507fae3eo22e3b2d52df1202f@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Date: Fri, 16 Dec 2005 02:10:54 -0600 Message-Id: <1134720654.34653.37.camel@devilBSD.freeBSD> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.2.1.1 FreeBSD GNOME Team Port Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: shell script doesnot executing X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 16 Dec 2005 08:11:01 -0000 On Fri, 2005-12-16 at 11:23 +0530, Anirban Adhikary wrote: > Hi guys > This is Anirban here. I have the problem again with the previous shell > script.Which was > Write a shell script that will check whether a server is up or not(on ping) > & log the report to a file. > > I have tried to write the program in the following way > > #! /bin/sh > echo -n "Enter the IP or Hostname of the Server" > read host > #echo $host > ping -c2 $host &>file2 > if [ $? = 0 ];then > echo "Server is up and working" $host > else > echo"Server is not up and not working" $host > fi I reworked your script a bit, it is working for me maybe it will for you: #! /bin/sh echo -n "Enter the IP or Hostname of the Server: " read host ping -c2 $host > file2; if `test $? = 0`; then echo "Server is up and working" $host else echo "Server is not up and not working" $host fi TEST: hde{/usr/home/hde} $ ./test.sh Enter the IP or Hostname of the Server: 193.169.1.1 Server is up and working 193.169.1.1 hde{/usr/home/hde} $ ./test.sh Enter the IP or Hostname of the Server: 193.169.1.111 Server is not up and not working 193.169.1.111 hde{/usr/home/hde} $ cat file2 PING 193.169.1.111 (193.169.1.111): 56 data bytes --- 193.169.1.111 ping statistics --- 2 packets transmitted, 0 packets received, 100% packet loss hde{/usr/home/hde} $ -- Harley -----BEGIN GEEK CODE BLOCK----- G: GCS-- d- a? C++++ B- E+++ W+++ N++ w--- X+++ b++ G e* r x+ z+++++ ------END GEEK CODE BLOCK------ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Dec 16 08:46:00 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DC4E816A42D for ; Fri, 16 Dec 2005 08:46:00 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from mistry.7@osu.edu) Received: from mail.united-ware.com (am-productions.biz [69.61.164.22]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1C64743DA3 for ; Fri, 16 Dec 2005 08:45:31 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from mistry.7@osu.edu) Received: from [192.168.1.100] (am-productions.biz [69.61.164.22]) (authenticated bits=0) by mail.united-ware.com (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id jBG8mVlC020286 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5 bits=128 verify=NO) for ; Fri, 16 Dec 2005 03:48:37 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from mistry.7@osu.edu) From: Anish Mistry To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Fri, 16 Dec 2005 03:47:35 -0500 User-Agent: KMail/1.8.3 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <200512160347.35994.mistry.7@osu.edu> X-Spam-Status: No, score=-3.0 required=5.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED, BAYES_40, BIZ_TLD, MYFREEBSD2 autolearn=failed version=3.1.0 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.0 (2005-09-13) on mail.united-ware.com X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV 0.87/1210/Thu Dec 15 10:23:22 2005 on mail.united-ware.com X-Virus-Status: Clean Subject: Reproducable Panic 6.0-RELEASE i386 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 16 Dec 2005 08:46:01 -0000 I'm getting the following panic, which I can reproduce easily. Let me know what other information I should provide. The backtrace seems really short for some reason. I get the panic when running a multi-threaded application I'm developing/modifying. kernel trap 12 with interrupts disabled Fatal trap 12: page fault while in kernel mode fault virtual address = 0x48 fault code = supervisor write, page not present instruction pointer = 0x20:0xc0510cb3 stack pointer = 0x28:0xe9aebb74 frame pointer = 0x28:0xe9aebbf8 code segment = base 0x0, limit 0xfffff, type 0x1b = DPL 0, pres 1, def32 1, gran 1 processor eflags = resume, IOPL = 0 current process = 7848 (gdb) [thread pid 7848 tid 100184 ] Stopped at kern_ptrace+0x11e3: andl $0xfffbffff,0x48(%eax) db> bt Tracing pid 7848 tid 100184 td 0xc4302180 kern_ptrace(c4302180,a,1ea6,0,11) at kern_ptrace+0x11e3 ptrace(c4302180,e9aebd04,10,418,4) at ptrace+0x56 syscall(3b,3b,3b,bfbfe580,1ea6) at syscall+0x13d Xint0x80_syscall() at Xint0x80_syscall+0x1f --- syscall (26, FreeBSD ELF32, ptrace), eip = 0x283360e7, esp = 0xbfbfe3bc, ebp = 0xbfbfe3d8 --- Full panic and backtrace, and alltrace: http://am-productions.biz/docs/bigguy-panic.gz http://am-productions.biz/docs/bigguy-dmesg.gz http://am-productions.biz/docs/bigguy-pciconf.gz Kernel config: http://am-productions.biz/docs/BIGGUY.gz -- Anish Mistry From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Dec 16 09:21:13 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 849FB16A41F for ; Fri, 16 Dec 2005 09:21:13 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from norgaard@locolomo.org) Received: from strange.daemonsecurity.com (59.Red-81-33-11.staticIP.rima-tde.net [81.33.11.59]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 359B343D5D for ; Fri, 16 Dec 2005 09:21:11 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from norgaard@locolomo.org) Received: from [172.24.8.84] (generic.ATOSORIGIN.ES [212.170.156.200]) by strange.daemonsecurity.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 07A822E041; Fri, 16 Dec 2005 10:21:09 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <43A28700.3060805@locolomo.org> Date: Fri, 16 Dec 2005 10:21:04 +0100 From: Erik Norgaard User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.7 (X11/20051214) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Jim Pazarena References: <43A26004.3010105@ccstores.com> In-Reply-To: <43A26004.3010105@ccstores.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: FreeBSD questions Subject: Re: atheros wireless setup X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 16 Dec 2005 09:21:13 -0000 Jim Pazarena wrote: > I can't believe how incredibly easy it was to get > the wireless going in my laptop. > > add: if_ath_load="YES" to /boot/loader.conf > > and: ifconfig_ath0="dhcp" to /etc/rc.conf > > and it "works" ! > > please tell me where I can read up on how to "control" the > wireless link. Such as how to enter the "SSID", and connect > speed etc. I assume you use FBSD6? Check wpa_supplicant, if you are always connecting to the same wireless network you can also enter these details in the rc.conf line: ifconfig_ath0="ssid MyWireless dhcp" Erik -- Ph: +34.666334818 web: www.locolomo.org S/MIME Certificate: www.daemonsecurity.com/ca/8D03551FFCE04F06.crt Subject ID: 9E:AA:18:E6:94:7A:91:44:0A:E4:DD:87:73:7F:4E:82:E7:08:9C:72 Fingerprint: 5B:D5:1E:3E:47:E7:EC:1C:4C:C8:3A:19:CC:AE:14:F5:DF:18:0F:B9 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Dec 16 09:31:01 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F0C2716A420 for ; Fri, 16 Dec 2005 09:31:01 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from norgaard@locolomo.org) Received: from strange.daemonsecurity.com (59.Red-81-33-11.staticIP.rima-tde.net [81.33.11.59]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 10DE943D45 for ; Fri, 16 Dec 2005 09:31:01 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from norgaard@locolomo.org) Received: from [172.24.8.84] (generic.ATOSORIGIN.ES [212.170.156.200]) by strange.daemonsecurity.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E764D2E041; Fri, 16 Dec 2005 10:30:59 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <43A28952.2030907@locolomo.org> Date: Fri, 16 Dec 2005 10:30:58 +0100 From: Erik Norgaard User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.7 (X11/20051214) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Jeff D. Hamann" References: <001501c6020d$d404e9c0$0c00a8c0@mothra> In-Reply-To: <001501c6020d$d404e9c0$0c00a8c0@mothra> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: argh with freebsd's networking! X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 16 Dec 2005 09:31:02 -0000 Jeff D. Hamann wrote: > the instructions seem to be clear enough but the problem is is that I > don't have any network connection so I can't install ports and packages. You shouldn't need to download any packages, drivers should be with the source code which you have on the install cds. > If anyone has any > meaningful assistance in getting the wireless or the wired ethernet > working please assist. Well: output from dmesg would be really usefull, because then we can see what the kernel identifies. Also, just output of ifconfig will give you a list of found interfaces and their current configuration. If the driver is in the kernel then the nic will appear in dmesg. Then all you have to do is: ifconfig_ / For wireless it may be more complicated because you also need to set SSID etc. > I'm using FreeBSD 6.0 i386. I downloaded the ISO images last week. I > would love to recompile the kernel so that neither works. Most nic's drivers are in the GENERIC kernel, but if not you can load the needed modules, for example: kldload if_iwi Cheers, Erik -- Ph: +34.666334818 web: www.locolomo.org S/MIME Certificate: www.daemonsecurity.com/ca/8D03551FFCE04F06.crt Subject ID: 9E:AA:18:E6:94:7A:91:44:0A:E4:DD:87:73:7F:4E:82:E7:08:9C:72 Fingerprint: 5B:D5:1E:3E:47:E7:EC:1C:4C:C8:3A:19:CC:AE:14:F5:DF:18:0F:B9 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Dec 16 10:08:28 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B31DC16A41F for ; Fri, 16 Dec 2005 10:08:28 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from no-spam@swiftdsl.com.au) Received: from smtp.ade.swiftdsl.com.au (smtp.ade.swiftdsl.com.au [218.214.228.98]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 60BA443D62 for ; Fri, 16 Dec 2005 10:08:26 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from no-spam@swiftdsl.com.au) Received: (qmail 19236 invoked from network); 16 Dec 2005 10:08:28 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO daemon.foo.lan) (218.214.176.70) by smtp.ade.swiftdsl.com.au with SMTP; 16 Dec 2005 10:08:28 -0000 From: Ian Moore To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Fri, 16 Dec 2005 20:38:16 +1030 User-Agent: KMail/1.8.3 References: <200512161727.43205.no-spam@swiftdsl.com.au> In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="nextPart2094511.lZWGNnOhTH"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=pgp-sha1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <200512162038.23893.no-spam@swiftdsl.com.au> Cc: Markus Trippelsdorf Subject: Re: Patching a port X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 16 Dec 2005 10:08:28 -0000 --nextPart2094511.lZWGNnOhTH Content-Type: text/plain; charset="cp 850" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline On Friday 16 December 2005 18:18, Markus Trippelsdorf wrote: > On 2005-12-16, Ian Moore wrote: > > I'm having some trouble with the www/sarg port. The writer has sent me > > a=3D20 couple of .patch files to apply and I'm wondering if there's some > > way to=3D20 apply those patches and still use the ports system to build= & > > install the=3D20 port. > > I know the source code installs stuff in places that aren't the standard > > FB=3D SD=3D20 > > locations - I assume they are the norm for Linux. The port fixes that > > and=3D20 puts stuff where we expect it to be. > > It would make life easier if I could apply the patches and then build t= he > > p=3D ort=3D20 > > make patch > -apply your patches- > make install clean Thanks, I'll knew it would be something really easy. Cheers, =2D-=20 Ian gpg key: http://home.swiftdsl.com.au/~imoore/no-spam.asc --nextPart2094511.lZWGNnOhTH Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.2 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQBDopIXPUlnmbKkJ6ARAtUAAJ96UAgUbxsCEmgnm4WettvAbgtk6wCgiath lDOguJBfOXFJK/HL/xyJ2A4= =Pi2i -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --nextPart2094511.lZWGNnOhTH-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Dec 16 10:48:28 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C174116A41F for ; Fri, 16 Dec 2005 10:48:28 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) Received: from mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com (mail.web-strider.com [65.75.192.90]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A891A43D53 for ; Fri, 16 Dec 2005 10:48:27 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) Received: from tedwin2k (nat-rtr.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [65.75.197.130]) by mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com (8.11.1/8.11.1) with SMTP id jBGApRb20547; Fri, 16 Dec 2005 02:51:27 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) From: "Ted Mittelstaedt" To: "caleb" Date: Fri, 16 Dec 2005 02:48:13 -0800 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1250" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.6604 (9.0.2911.0) In-Reply-To: <20051215173501.X3683@nebuchadnezzar.my.domain> Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1506 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, RW Subject: RE: pine X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 16 Dec 2005 10:48:28 -0000 "I am able to telnet into the SMTP server on port 25 and have my way with it" Why, exactly, is this a security problem? You do realize, don't you, that mailservers do not encrypt SMTP mail when they send it to each other. I would be more interested, if I were you, in what banners I got by telnetting into the POP3 and SMTP port. Those should tell you what the ISP is using to host e-mail, obviously if it's Microsoft Exchange I'd run in the opposite direction. Ted >-----Original Message----- >From: caleb [mailto:destroyingculture@netspace.net.au] >Sent: Wednesday, December 14, 2005 10:44 PM >To: Ted Mittelstaedt >Cc: gwen; RW; freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; caleb >Subject: RE: pine > > >Hi everyone, > Thanks Gwen and Ted for your feedback. I am using an ADSL >modem, basically a POTS network terminal. I am thinkng of >switching ISP's, registering a domain and setting up my own mail server. >The ISP I am using (according to thier 'technical support') >does not use >any encryption with the POP server and I am able to telnet into >the SMTP >server on port 25 and have my way with it. I have installed ipgrab so I >can see for myself the information transmitted on rl0 and tun0. I also >plan to try thunderbird (*sigh* I have to use X), to see if >there is any >difference between it's connection and pine's > >Thanks again, > >caleb. > >P.S - as for hollywood movies, 'Takedown' - enough said :) > >-- >There is no spoon > > >-- >No virus found in this incoming message. >Checked by AVG Free Edition. >Version: 7.1.371 / Virus Database: 267.13.13/200 - Release >Date: 12/14/2005 > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Dec 16 11:11:26 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 24E2F16A41F for ; Fri, 16 Dec 2005 11:11:26 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from wojtek@tensor.3miasto.net) Received: from chylonia.3miasto.net (chylonia.3miasto.net [213.192.74.6]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5D76943D49 for ; Fri, 16 Dec 2005 11:11:24 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from wojtek@tensor.3miasto.net) Received: from chylonia.3miasto.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by chylonia.3miasto.net (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id jBGBAlmT060890; Fri, 16 Dec 2005 12:10:47 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wojtek@tensor.3miasto.net) Received: from localhost (wojtek@localhost) by chylonia.3miasto.net (8.13.4/8.13.4/Submit) with ESMTP id jBGBAkZI060887; Fri, 16 Dec 2005 12:10:47 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wojtek@tensor.3miasto.net) X-Authentication-Warning: chylonia.3miasto.net: wojtek owned process doing -bs Date: Fri, 16 Dec 2005 12:10:46 +0100 (CET) From: Wojciech Puchar X-X-Sender: wojtek@chylonia.3miasto.net To: "Jeff D. Hamann" In-Reply-To: <001501c6020d$d404e9c0$0c00a8c0@mothra> Message-ID: <20051216120909.C60699@chylonia.3miasto.net> References: <001501c6020d$d404e9c0$0c00a8c0@mothra> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: argh with freebsd's networking! X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 16 Dec 2005 11:11:26 -0000 > I've been a big fan of FreeBSD for a few years now, expect for the fact that > getting a NIC is always a gamble. Since time is limtied (and most costly) I > can't afford to spend another minute trying to get my new laptop up and > running with FreeBSD. trying to have modern laptop running anything other than windows is always a gamble. it's not FreeBSD specific :) > > I've recently purchased a laptop (sager 3880 -- very nice so far) and have > had no success getting either the rj-45 network interface ot the wireless > interface (Intel 2915abg) to work. When I run the install, it does detect a without dmesg output i (and others) can't tell you much. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Dec 16 11:15:28 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8977B16A41F for ; Fri, 16 Dec 2005 11:15:28 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from wojtek@tensor.3miasto.net) Received: from chylonia.3miasto.net (chylonia.3miasto.net [213.192.74.6]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 169CE43D46 for ; Fri, 16 Dec 2005 11:15:26 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from wojtek@tensor.3miasto.net) Received: from chylonia.3miasto.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by chylonia.3miasto.net (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id jBGBFAOn061222; Fri, 16 Dec 2005 12:15:10 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wojtek@tensor.3miasto.net) Received: from localhost (wojtek@localhost) by chylonia.3miasto.net (8.13.4/8.13.4/Submit) with ESMTP id jBGBFA9X061219; Fri, 16 Dec 2005 12:15:10 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wojtek@tensor.3miasto.net) X-Authentication-Warning: chylonia.3miasto.net: wojtek owned process doing -bs Date: Fri, 16 Dec 2005 12:15:10 +0100 (CET) From: Wojciech Puchar X-X-Sender: wojtek@chylonia.3miasto.net To: Joshua Tinnin In-Reply-To: <200512160054.43075.krinklyfig@comcast.net> Message-ID: <20051216121105.T60699@chylonia.3miasto.net> References: <001501c6020d$d404e9c0$0c00a8c0@mothra> <200512160054.43075.krinklyfig@comcast.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: argh with freebsd's networking! X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 16 Dec 2005 11:15:28 -0000 > > Well, after a bit of searching it seems you have Marvell Yukon Gigabit > ethernet. I have a similar controller on my Asus motherboard, and it > works with: > > device sk > > in the kernel config. However, I am not positive this driver will work > for you, as the chipset is slightly different. it is compiled in GENERIC kernel and nothing was detected. if it's similar chip but has different PCI ID adding it to driver may be enough. or may be not. today - i can't see ANY new portable computer on market that have normal, compatible hardware. my friend recently bought ACER notebook and there is no OS that supports everything except windows XP. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Dec 16 11:36:32 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8A74916A422 for ; Fri, 16 Dec 2005 11:36:31 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) Received: from mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com (mail.web-strider.com [65.75.192.90]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D6A1043D46 for ; Fri, 16 Dec 2005 11:36:30 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) Received: from tedwin2k (nat-rtr.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [65.75.197.130]) by mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com (8.11.1/8.11.1) with SMTP id jBGBdOb20747; Fri, 16 Dec 2005 03:39:24 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) From: "Ted Mittelstaedt" To: "Sasa Stupar" , , "Drew Tomlinson" Date: Fri, 16 Dec 2005 03:36:10 -0800 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1250" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.6604 (9.0.2911.0) In-Reply-To: Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1506 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: RE: Polling For 100 mbps Connections? (Was Re: Freebsd Theme Song) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 16 Dec 2005 11:36:32 -0000 >-----Original Message----- >From: Sasa Stupar [mailto:sasa@stupar.homelinux.net] >Sent: Thursday, December 15, 2005 12:34 AM >To: Ted Mittelstaedt; danial_thom@yahoo.com; Drew Tomlinson >Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org >Subject: RE: Polling For 100 mbps Connections? (Was Re: Freebsd >Theme Song) > >> >> Ted > >Hmmm, here is test with iperf what I have done with and without polling: >************** >------------------------------------------------------------ >Client connecting to 192.168.1.200, TCP port 5001 >TCP window size: 8.00 KByte (default) >------------------------------------------------------------ >[1816] local 192.168.10.249 port 1088 connected with >192.168.1.200 port 5001 >[ ID] Interval Transfer Bandwidth >[1816] 0.0-10.0 sec 108 MBytes 90.1 Mbits/sec > >This is when I use Device polling option on m0n0. > >If I disable this option then my transfer is worse: >------------------------------------------------------------ >Client connecting to 192.168.1.200, TCP port 5001 >TCP window size: 8.00 KByte (default) >------------------------------------------------------------ >[1816] local 192.168.10.249 port 1086 connected with >192.168.1.200 port 5001 >[ ID] Interval Transfer Bandwidth >[1816] 0.0-10.0 sec 69.7 MBytes 58.4 Mbits/sec >*************** > >BTW: my router is m0n0wall (FBSD 4.11). > what are the cpu speeds and operating systems of all devices in the packet path, what is the make and model of switchs in use, provide dmesg output of the bsd box, a network diagram of the setup, etc. etc. etc. The above test results are not replicatable and thus, worthless. Useful test results would allow a reader to build an exact duplicate of your setup, config it identically, and get identical results. Ted From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Dec 16 11:47:39 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3324C16A41F for ; Fri, 16 Dec 2005 11:47:39 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from scott@lackluster.net) Received: from tinker.apex13.com (tinker.apex13.com [69.72.250.186]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9DD7843D58 for ; Fri, 16 Dec 2005 11:47:38 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from scott@lackluster.net) Received: from localhost (localhost.apex13.com [127.0.0.1]) by tinker.apex13.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1804539B01 for ; Fri, 16 Dec 2005 06:47:36 -0500 (EST) Received: from tinker.apex13.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (tinker.apex13.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 00706-05 for ; Fri, 16 Dec 2005 06:47:35 -0500 (EST) Received: from [192.168.0.108] (ip68-8-61-4.sd.sd.cox.net [68.8.61.4]) by tinker.apex13.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 02BFF39AFF for ; Fri, 16 Dec 2005 06:47:34 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <43A2A969.70105@lackluster.net> Date: Fri, 16 Dec 2005 03:47:53 -0800 From: Scott Smith User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.7 (Windows/20050923) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Enigmail-Version: 0.93.0.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new-2.3.3 (20050822) (FreeBSD) at localhost Subject: pam_mysql problem X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 16 Dec 2005 11:47:39 -0000 Hi, I have an issue when using pam_mysql. I'm using it with ssh and it is unable to find the library after a reboot. After my machine reboots, I have to manually restart sshd in order for it to find the library. This leads me to believe it's related to when ldconfig is run, but I'm pretty stumped and can't figure out exactly what needs to be done to fix it. I initially had an entry for the library in my pam config as "pam_mysql.so" which didn't work, so I tried copying it to /usr/lib. That didn't work, so I tried using the full path to pam_mysql.so. This still isn't working. Here is part of my pam config and a syslog entry: /etc/pam.d/sshd: auth sufficient /usr/local/lib/pam_mysql.so config_file=/usr/local/etc/pam-unix.conf Dec 16 06:29:07 tinker sshd[1008]: in openpam_load_module(): no /usr/local/lib/pam_mysql.so found So does anyone have some suggestions as to why this is happening? I found something from 2003 about it but the guy asked for an offline response :( Thanks, Scott -- scott@lackluster.net From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Dec 16 11:49:28 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2550116A41F for ; Fri, 16 Dec 2005 11:49:28 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from danm@prime.gushi.org) Received: from prime.gushi.org (prime.gushi.org [72.9.101.130]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A678043D55 for ; Fri, 16 Dec 2005 11:49:27 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from danm@prime.gushi.org) Received: from prime.gushi.org (danm@localhost.gushi.org [127.0.0.1]) by prime.gushi.org (8.13.5/8.13.5) with ESMTP id jBGC1aPU083807 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Fri, 16 Dec 2005 07:01:36 -0500 (EST) Received: (from danm@localhost) by prime.gushi.org (8.13.5/8.13.5/Submit) id jBGC1ZT4083806; Fri, 16 Dec 2005 07:01:35 -0500 (EST) Date: Fri, 16 Dec 2005 07:01:35 -0500 (EST) From: "Dan Mahoney, System Admin" To: questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20051216045350.H35923@prime.gushi.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: Subject: PAM and OPIE and su X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 16 Dec 2005 11:49:28 -0000 Hey all, this is sort of a wierd question, but bear with me. I notice that pam_securetty has a function that allows people to have to be "secure" before it will let them do something (for example, use login as root). I've recently enabled telnetd on my system because of people trapped behind library terminals at school, or behind retarded proxies on computer labs where ssh apps are not installed. The issue, of course, is that there's still technically the possibility of someone using su(1) as a wheel user, over a session which is now insecure. What I'd like to be able to do is be able to know which sessions are ssh'd, and which sessions are telnet'd, and either require OTP for the ones which HAVE been used for telnet -- or allow normal passwords for the SSHable ones. This would probably require modifications to either telnetd or sshd, as most of the playing I've done with PS to make a proof-of-concept shows both daemons as listing their terminals as ??, as opposed to showing the terminalid's being used. If nothing else, a PAM module that can tell what method a user is in via would be useful. Any ideas? -Dan -- "She's NOT my girlfriend!" -Dan Mahoney, Quite a bit recently. --------Dan Mahoney-------- Techie, Sysadmin, WebGeek Gushi on efnet/undernet IRC ICQ: 13735144 AIM: LarpGM Site: http://www.gushi.org --------------------------- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Dec 16 12:04:00 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6C48D16A41F for ; Fri, 16 Dec 2005 12:04:00 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from helge.preuss@gmx.net) Received: from mail.gmx.net (mail.gmx.net [213.165.64.21]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 77AEB43D66 for ; Fri, 16 Dec 2005 12:03:59 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from helge.preuss@gmx.net) Received: (qmail invoked by alias); 16 Dec 2005 12:03:58 -0000 Received: from e178098192.adsl.alicedsl.de (EHLO [192.168.0.146]) [85.178.98.192] by mail.gmx.net (mp030) with SMTP; 16 Dec 2005 13:03:58 +0100 X-Authenticated: #6367088 Message-ID: <43A2AD65.9080607@gmx.net> Date: Fri, 16 Dec 2005 13:04:53 +0100 From: Helge Preuss User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.7 (X11/20051204) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Y-GMX-Trusted: 0 Subject: Order of rc file execution X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 16 Dec 2005 12:04:00 -0000 Hello, I use a GBDE-encrypted /var partition which i attach and mount during boot in rc.local. Now this has worked flawlessly until my last portmanager -u run, after which the following happens during the boot sequence: - /etc/rc.d/ldconfig writes /var/run/ld.so.hints and /var/run/ld-elf.so.hints - /etc/rc.d/local attaches and mounts my encrypted /var partition - every subsequent program fails to start up because it cannot find any dynamic library it needs due to the hidden /var/run/ld*.so.hints As an ugly workaround i copied the ld*.so.hints to the encrypted /var/run, but obviously it is better to run /etc/rc.d/local before /etc/rc.d/ldconfig. I understand I can achieve this by changing the line # BEFORE: LOGIN in local to # BEFORE: ldconfig and change the REQUIRE line too to avoid a circular dependency. I'd just like to ask the list whether there is a way which does not require changing system-supplied scripts. I'd prefer making my edits in a centralized way (for instance, editing something like /etc/rc.local) instead of something under rc.d. Thanks Helge -- Helge Preuss Freelance Software Developer +49 177 2262 484 helge.preuss@gmx.net From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Dec 16 12:15:21 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F1C1B16A41F for ; Fri, 16 Dec 2005 12:15:21 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from norgaard@locolomo.org) Received: from strange.daemonsecurity.com (59.Red-81-33-11.staticIP.rima-tde.net [81.33.11.59]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7204F43D4C for ; Fri, 16 Dec 2005 12:15:21 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from norgaard@locolomo.org) Received: from [172.24.8.84] (generic.atosorigin.es [212.170.156.200]) by strange.daemonsecurity.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2889A2E041; Fri, 16 Dec 2005 13:15:20 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <43A2AFD6.4000506@locolomo.org> Date: Fri, 16 Dec 2005 13:15:18 +0100 From: Erik Norgaard User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.7 (X11/20051214) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Helge Preuss References: <43A2AD65.9080607@gmx.net> In-Reply-To: <43A2AD65.9080607@gmx.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Order of rc file execution X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 16 Dec 2005 12:15:22 -0000 Helge Preuss wrote: > I use a GBDE-encrypted /var partition which i attach and mount during > boot in rc.local. why don't you use /etc/rc.d/gbde? (btw, which version of FBSD?). > As an ugly workaround i copied the ld*.so.hints to the encrypted > /var/run, but obviously it is better to run /etc/rc.d/local before > /etc/rc.d/ldconfig. I understand I can achieve this by changing the line > > # BEFORE: LOGIN > > in local to > > # BEFORE: ldconfig > > and change the REQUIRE line too to avoid a circular dependency. > > I'd just like to ask the list whether there is a way which does not > require changing system-supplied scripts. I'd prefer making my edits in > a centralized way (for instance, editing something like /etc/rc.local) > instead of something under rc.d. Option 1: seems to be use /etc/rc.d/gbde to mount your /var Option 2: seems to be create your script under /etc/rc.d with the desired BEFORE line. This doesn't change system supplied scripts, but when you do mergemaster then you will be asked if you want to delete this "stale" script. Cheers, Erik -- Ph: +34.666334818 web: www.locolomo.org S/MIME Certificate: www.daemonsecurity.com/ca/8D03551FFCE04F06.crt Subject ID: 9E:AA:18:E6:94:7A:91:44:0A:E4:DD:87:73:7F:4E:82:E7:08:9C:72 Fingerprint: 5B:D5:1E:3E:47:E7:EC:1C:4C:C8:3A:19:CC:AE:14:F5:DF:18:0F:B9 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Dec 16 12:29:01 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B79D416A41F for ; Fri, 16 Dec 2005 12:29:01 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from deejy-pooh@ntlworld.com) Received: from mta09-winn.ispmail.ntl.com (mta09-winn.ispmail.ntl.com [81.103.221.49]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B7C9843D5A for ; Fri, 16 Dec 2005 12:29:00 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from deejy-pooh@ntlworld.com) Received: from aamta09-winn.ispmail.ntl.com ([81.103.221.35]) by mta09-winn.ispmail.ntl.com with ESMTP id <20051216122858.UPRU8609.mta09-winn.ispmail.ntl.com@aamta09-winn.ispmail.ntl.com> for ; Fri, 16 Dec 2005 12:28:58 +0000 Received: from cpc4-linc4-5-1-cust91.nott.cable.ntl.com ([82.25.112.91]) by aamta09-winn.ispmail.ntl.com with ESMTP id <20051216122858.QWJQ13162.aamta09-winn.ispmail.ntl.com@cpc4-linc4-5-1-cust91.nott.cable.ntl.com> for ; Fri, 16 Dec 2005 12:28:58 +0000 From: deej Organization: Non Gratum Anus Rodentum To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Fri, 16 Dec 2005 12:28:56 +0000 User-Agent: KMail/1.8.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200512161228.56309.deejy-pooh@ntlworld.com> Subject: Re: Ebay Auction Win X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 16 Dec 2005 12:29:01 -0000 > Ebay Item #6574118600 > >=20 > > From: > > Date: 2005/12/15 Thu PM 11:28:35 EST > > To: > > Subject: Ebay Auction Win > >=20 > > Dear CatBecca, > > I won you Ebay Auction for a Jolly N----- Bank. =A0I paid and would lik= e to=20 receive this item. > >=20 > > Sincerely, > > George Varshock > > geological1 >The mind boggles how you managed to screw up this email :) >Kris =2E... more to the point, WHAT IS a ' jolly N----- Bank ' ??? 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Deej From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Dec 16 12:33:59 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 07B4E16A41F for ; Fri, 16 Dec 2005 12:33:59 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from magalhj@yahoo.com.br) Received: from web31611.mail.mud.yahoo.com (web31611.mail.mud.yahoo.com [68.142.198.157]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 58AD343D4C for ; Fri, 16 Dec 2005 12:33:58 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from magalhj@yahoo.com.br) Received: (qmail 4934 invoked by uid 60001); 16 Dec 2005 12:33:57 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com.br; h=Message-ID:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=fb0xhkbiVtGzFAE5KFFloLErr15KEvwJ7Y6FcNIK+yKtebevj88st1vDv0WGCDVrOWo/8F6Lz0gqNPu0BJesdKm6+tqXrbT53JmVwVeJEFZ3CNxf5LxYTay4fHkQVL+5cLo0PcTVpB1kpmn2qxZ9dnF1Cc0iOgIkBeH7Kx0yCrI= ; Message-ID: <20051216123357.4932.qmail@web31611.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Received: from [201.19.185.4] by web31611.mail.mud.yahoo.com via HTTP; Fri, 16 Dec 2005 09:33:57 ART Date: Fri, 16 Dec 2005 09:33:57 -0300 (ART) From: Aguiar Magalhaes To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Subject: swap - 2 HDs X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 16 Dec 2005 12:33:59 -0000 Hi list, I have a machine with: dual processor AMD 64 bits, 4 GB RAM and 2 HDs SCSI 73 GB. How can I configure the swap area ? Is It recommended to configure swap area in both HDs ?? How large ?? Aguiar _______________________________________________________ Yahoo! doce lar. Faça do Yahoo! sua homepage. http://br.yahoo.com/homepageset.html From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Dec 16 12:51:07 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5B42B16A41F for ; Fri, 16 Dec 2005 12:51:07 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from helge.preuss@gmx.net) Received: from mail.gmx.net (mail.gmx.de [213.165.64.21]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 7C84343D5E for ; Fri, 16 Dec 2005 12:51:06 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from helge.preuss@gmx.net) Received: (qmail invoked by alias); 16 Dec 2005 12:51:05 -0000 Received: from e178080151.adsl.alicedsl.de (EHLO [192.168.0.146]) [85.178.80.151] by mail.gmx.net (mp029) with SMTP; 16 Dec 2005 13:51:05 +0100 X-Authenticated: #6367088 Message-ID: <43A2B86B.9020800@gmx.net> Date: Fri, 16 Dec 2005 13:51:55 +0100 From: Helge Preuss User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.7 (X11/20051204) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Erik Norgaard References: <43A2AD65.9080607@gmx.net> <43A2AFD6.4000506@locolomo.org> In-Reply-To: <43A2AFD6.4000506@locolomo.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Y-GMX-Trusted: 0 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Order of rc file execution X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 16 Dec 2005 12:51:07 -0000 >> I use a GBDE-encrypted /var partition which i attach and mount during >> boot in rc.local. > > > why don't you use /etc/rc.d/gbde? (btw, which version of FBSD?). Heh, because I didn't know about it! Thanks, this looks like the cleanest solution. How do I use this script? If I interpret the source correctly, I should just set gbde_devices-auto="AUTO" in /etc/rc.conf and enter my encrypted partition in the fstab? Dummy question: Where should I look to find documentation about scripts like this? I haven't found it mentioned in either the handbook or the manpages. BTW, I use 5.4. > >> As an ugly workaround i copied the ld*.so.hints to the encrypted >> /var/run, but obviously it is better to run /etc/rc.d/local before >> /etc/rc.d/ldconfig. I understand I can achieve this by changing the line >> >> # BEFORE: LOGIN >> >> in local to >> >> # BEFORE: ldconfig >> >> and change the REQUIRE line too to avoid a circular dependency. >> >> I'd just like to ask the list whether there is a way which does not >> require changing system-supplied scripts. I'd prefer making my edits >> in a centralized way (for instance, editing something like >> /etc/rc.local) instead of something under rc.d. > > > Option 1: seems to be use /etc/rc.d/gbde to mount your /var > > Option 2: seems to be create your script under /etc/rc.d with the > desired BEFORE line. > > This doesn't change system supplied scripts, but when you do > mergemaster then you will be asked if you want to delete this "stale" > script. > > Cheers, Erik > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Dec 16 13:08:51 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E55B216A41F for ; Fri, 16 Dec 2005 13:08:51 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from on@cs.ait.ac.th) Received: from mail.cs.ait.ac.th (mail.cs.ait.ac.th [192.41.170.16]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4744843D4C for ; Fri, 16 Dec 2005 13:08:49 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from on@cs.ait.ac.th) Received: from banyan.cs.ait.ac.th (banyan.cs.ait.ac.th [192.41.170.5]) by mail.cs.ait.ac.th (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id jBGD8eNL096702 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Fri, 16 Dec 2005 20:08:40 +0700 (ICT) Received: (from on@localhost) by banyan.cs.ait.ac.th (8.13.1/8.12.11) id jBGD8c0V002949; Fri, 16 Dec 2005 20:08:38 +0700 (ICT) Date: Fri, 16 Dec 2005 20:08:38 +0700 (ICT) Message-Id: <200512161308.jBGD8c0V002949@banyan.cs.ait.ac.th> From: Olivier Nicole To: danm@prime.gushi.org In-reply-to: <20051216045350.H35923@prime.gushi.org> (danm@prime.gushi.org) References: <20051216045350.H35923@prime.gushi.org> X-Virus-Scanned: on CSIM by amavisd-milter (http://www.amavis.org/) Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: PAM and OPIE and su X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 16 Dec 2005 13:08:52 -0000 >This would probably require modifications to either telnetd or sshd, as >most of the playing I've done with PS to make a proof-of-concept shows >both daemons as listing their terminals as ??, as opposed to showing the >terminalid's being used. If I am not wrong, ssh do not use the same library as telnet to authentify on the password. I used to have OPIE installed with telnet and ssh, one time passwords were valid only for telnet, ssh never heard of it. In fact, I think that OPIE hooks in telnetd before the test for the password. Olivier From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Dec 16 13:13:52 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 802D816A41F for ; Fri, 16 Dec 2005 13:13:52 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from willmaier@ml1.net) Received: from out4.smtp.messagingengine.com (out4.smtp.messagingengine.com [66.111.4.28]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4675543D7B for ; Fri, 16 Dec 2005 13:13:43 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from willmaier@ml1.net) Received: from frontend1.internal (mysql-sessions.internal [10.202.2.149]) by frontend1.messagingengine.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 733E2D23D64 for ; Fri, 16 Dec 2005 08:13:42 -0500 (EST) Received: from frontend2.messagingengine.com ([10.202.2.151]) by frontend1.internal (MEProxy); Fri, 16 Dec 2005 08:13:42 -0500 X-Sasl-enc: uLcs7AEqw+UZcT931I2JBiAqYnSALtjEC42hIOUXOFr8 1134738819 Received: from localhost (mdsnwikwbas08-pool4-a199.mdsnwikw.tds.net [69.129.195.199]) by frontend2.messagingengine.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E3DF057145C for ; Fri, 16 Dec 2005 08:13:39 -0500 (EST) Date: Fri, 16 Dec 2005 07:14:51 -0600 From: Will Maier To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20051216131451.GV2413@merkur.atekomi.net> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <20051216123357.4932.qmail@web31611.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20051216123357.4932.qmail@web31611.mail.mud.yahoo.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.9i Subject: Re: swap - 2 HDs X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 16 Dec 2005 13:13:52 -0000 On Fri, Dec 16, 2005 at 09:33:57AM -0300, Aguiar Magalhaes wrote: > I have a machine with: dual processor AMD 64 bits, 4 > GB RAM and 2 HDs SCSI 73 GB. > > How can I configure the swap area ? If you haven't completed the install, make the swap during the install when you configure the disks. If you've already finished the install, the Handbook has a section[0] describing methods for adding swap. > Is It recommended to configure swap area in both HDs ?? I don't see the point -- swap is where pages that don't fit in your real memory go. It's less optimal than real memory in terms of latency, but I don't see how two disks would make swap performance much better. > How large ?? I'd suggest 1-4G of swap depending on whether you need to read full dumps of the kernel/memory for debugging. If you don't, you'll probably be fine with a lesser amount of swap, unless you'll be running applications which will overload the memory. [0] http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/adding-swap-space.html -- o--------------------------{ Will Maier }--------------------------o | jabber:..wcmaier@jabber.ccc.de | email:..........wcmaier@ml1.net | | \.........wcmaier@cae.wisc.edu | \..........wcmaier@cae.wisc.edu | *------------------[ BSD Unix: Live Free or Die ]------------------* From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Dec 16 13:25:42 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 916B016A41F for ; Fri, 16 Dec 2005 13:25:42 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from sasa@stupar.homelinux.net) Received: from avs1.arnes.si (avs1.arnes.si [193.2.1.74]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AE25243D58 for ; Fri, 16 Dec 2005 13:25:41 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from sasa@stupar.homelinux.net) Received: from localhost (avs1.arnes.si [193.2.1.74]) by avs1.arnes.si (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1B16D36A20E; Fri, 16 Dec 2005 14:25:40 +0100 (CET) Received: from avs1.arnes.si ([193.2.1.74]) by localhost (avs1.arnes.si [193.2.1.74]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 24429-02-9; Fri, 16 Dec 2005 14:25:39 +0100 (CET) Received: from xmail.homelinux.net (cmb16-74.dial-up.arnes.si [194.249.51.74]) by avs1.arnes.si (Postfix) with ESMTP id AF10D36A293; Fri, 16 Dec 2005 14:25:23 +0100 (CET) Received: from [192.168.10.249] (master.workgroup [192.168.10.249]) (authenticated bits=0) by xmail.homelinux.net (8.13.5/8.13.3) with ESMTP id jBGDPMm9039898; Fri, 16 Dec 2005 14:25:22 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from sasa@stupar.homelinux.net) Date: Fri, 16 Dec 2005 14:25:29 +0100 From: Sasa Stupar To: Ted Mittelstaedt , danial_thom@yahoo.com, Drew Tomlinson Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: X-Mailer: Mulberry/3.1.6 (Win32) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV version 0.87.1, clamav-milter version 0.87 on mig29.workgroup X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at arnes.si Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: RE: Polling For 100 mbps Connections? (Was Re: Freebsd Theme Song) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 16 Dec 2005 13:25:42 -0000 --On 16. december 2005 3:36 -0800 Ted Mittelstaedt wrote: > > >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Sasa Stupar [mailto:sasa@stupar.homelinux.net] >> Sent: Thursday, December 15, 2005 12:34 AM >> To: Ted Mittelstaedt; danial_thom@yahoo.com; Drew Tomlinson >> Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org >> Subject: RE: Polling For 100 mbps Connections? (Was Re: Freebsd >> Theme Song) >> >>> >>> Ted >> >> Hmmm, here is test with iperf what I have done with and without polling: >> ************** >> ------------------------------------------------------------ >> Client connecting to 192.168.1.200, TCP port 5001 >> TCP window size: 8.00 KByte (default) >> ------------------------------------------------------------ >> [1816] local 192.168.10.249 port 1088 connected with >> 192.168.1.200 port 5001 >> [ ID] Interval Transfer Bandwidth >> [1816] 0.0-10.0 sec 108 MBytes 90.1 Mbits/sec >> >> This is when I use Device polling option on m0n0. >> >> If I disable this option then my transfer is worse: >> ------------------------------------------------------------ >> Client connecting to 192.168.1.200, TCP port 5001 >> TCP window size: 8.00 KByte (default) >> ------------------------------------------------------------ >> [1816] local 192.168.10.249 port 1086 connected with >> 192.168.1.200 port 5001 >> [ ID] Interval Transfer Bandwidth >> [1816] 0.0-10.0 sec 69.7 MBytes 58.4 Mbits/sec >> *************** >> >> BTW: my router is m0n0wall (FBSD 4.11). >> > > what are the cpu speeds and operating systems of all devices > in the packet path, what is the make and model of switchs in > use, provide dmesg output of the bsd box, a network diagram > of the setup, etc. etc. etc. > > The above test results are not replicatable and thus, worthless. > Useful test results would allow a reader to build an exact > duplicate of your setup, config it identically, and get identical > results. > > Ted > OK. The server (192.168.1.200) is FreeBSD 5.4 with Duron 900 and 3C905C NIC; router is m0n0wall (FreeBSD 4.11) with three Intel Pro/100S Nics and Celeron 433; The user computer (192.168.10.249) is Celeron 2400 with winxp and integrated NIC Realtek 8139 series. Switch is CNET CNSH-1600. Diagram: dmesg from the router: ---------------- $ dmesg Copyright (c) 1992-2005 The FreeBSD Project. Copyright (c) 1979, 1980, 1983, 1986, 1988, 1989, 1991, 1992, 1993, 1994 The Regents of the University of California. All rights reserved. FreeBSD 4.11-RELEASE-p11 #0: Wed Sep 7 13:49:09 CEST 2005 root@fb411.neon1.net:/usr/src/sys/compile/M0N0WALL_GENERIC Timecounter "i8254" frequency 1193182 Hz CPU: Pentium II/Pentium II Xeon/Celeron (434.32-MHz 686-class CPU) Origin = "GenuineIntel" Id = 0x665 Stepping = 5 Features=0x183f9ff real memory = 201326592 (196608K bytes) avail memory = 179142656 (174944K bytes) Preloaded elf kernel "kernel" at 0xc1006000. Preloaded mfs_root "/mfsroot" at 0xc100609c. Pentium Pro MTRR support enabled md0: Preloaded image 11534336 bytes at 0xc0504d9c md1: Malloc disk Using $PIR table, 8 entries at 0xc00fdef0 npx0: on motherboard npx0: INT 16 interface pcib0: on motherboard pci0: on pcib0 pcib1: at device 1.0 on pci0 pci1: on pcib1 isab0: at device 7.0 on pci0 isa0: on isab0 atapci0: port 0xf000-0xf00f at device 7.1 on pci0 ata0: at 0x1f0 irq 14 on atapci0 ata1: at 0x170 irq 15 on atapci0 uhci0: port 0xd000-0xd01f irq 11 at device 7.2 on pci0 usb0: on uhci0 usb0: USB revision 1.0 uhub0: Intel UHCI root hub, class 9/0, rev 1.00/1.00, addr 1 uhub0: 2 ports with 2 removable, self powered chip1: port 0x5000-0x500f at device 7.3 on pci0 pci0: (vendor=0x1274, dev=0x1371) at 8.0 irq 11 fxp0: port 0xd800-0xd83f mem 0xd0400000-0xd041ffff,0xd0460000-0xd0460fff irq 10 at device 15.0 on pci0 fxp0: Ethernet address 00:02:b3:62:f6:06 inphy0: on miibus0 inphy0: 10baseT, 10baseT-FDX, 100baseTX, 100baseTX-FDX, auto fxp1: port 0xdc00-0xdc3f mem 0xd0420000-0xd043ffff,0xd0462000-0xd0462fff irq 12 at device 16.0 on pci0 fxp1: Ethernet address 00:02:b3:9c:2a:16 inphy1: on miibus1 inphy1: 10baseT, 10baseT-FDX, 100baseTX, 100baseTX-FDX, auto fxp2: port 0xe000-0xe03f mem 0xd0440000-0xd045ffff,0xd0461000-0xd0461fff irq 7 at device 19.0 on pci0 fxp2: Ethernet address 00:02:b3:8c:e4:f6 inphy2: on miibus2 inphy2: 10baseT, 10baseT-FDX, 100baseTX, 100baseTX-FDX, auto pmtimer0 on isa0 fdc0: at port 0x3f0-0x3f5,0x3f7 irq 6 drq 2 on isa0 fdc0: FIFO enabled, 8 bytes threshold fd0: <1440-KB 3.5" drive> on fdc0 drive 0 atkbdc0: at port 0x60,0x64 on isa0 sio0 at port 0x3f8-0x3ff irq 4 flags 0x10 on isa0 sio0: type 16550A, console sio1: configured irq 3 not in bitmap of probed irqs 0 BRIDGE 020214 loaded IPsec: Initialized Security Association Processing. IP Filter: v3.4.35 initialized. Default = block all, Logging = enabled ad0: 3098MB [6296/16/63] at ata0-master PIO4 acd0: CDROM at ata1-master PIO4 Mounting root from ufs:/dev/md0c fxp1: Microcode loaded, int_delay: 1000 usec bundle_max: 6 fxp0: Microcode loaded, int_delay: 1000 usec bundle_max: 6 fxp2: Microcode loaded, int_delay: 1000 usec bundle_max: 6 ata0: resetting devices .. done ------------- If you need more just ask for it. You don't need to be angry. Peace. -- Sasa Stupar From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Dec 16 13:26:06 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1610616A41F for ; Fri, 16 Dec 2005 13:26:06 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from norgaard@locolomo.org) Received: from strange.daemonsecurity.com (59.Red-81-33-11.staticIP.rima-tde.net [81.33.11.59]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8BD3B43D55 for ; Fri, 16 Dec 2005 13:26:04 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from norgaard@locolomo.org) Received: from [172.24.8.84] (generic.ATOSORIGIN.ES [212.170.156.200]) by strange.daemonsecurity.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 71DFC2E041; Fri, 16 Dec 2005 14:26:03 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <43A2C06A.4040805@locolomo.org> Date: Fri, 16 Dec 2005 14:26:02 +0100 From: Erik Norgaard User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.7 (X11/20051214) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Helge Preuss References: <43A2AD65.9080607@gmx.net> <43A2AFD6.4000506@locolomo.org> <43A2B86B.9020800@gmx.net> In-Reply-To: <43A2B86B.9020800@gmx.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Order of rc file execution X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 16 Dec 2005 13:26:06 -0000 Helge Preuss wrote: > >>> I use a GBDE-encrypted /var partition which i attach and mount during >>> boot in rc.local. >> >> why don't you use /etc/rc.d/gbde? (btw, which version of FBSD?). > > Heh, because I didn't know about it! Thanks, this looks like the > cleanest solution. > > How do I use this script? If I interpret the source correctly, I should > just set > gbde_devices-auto="AUTO" > in /etc/rc.conf and enter my encrypted partition in the fstab? > > Dummy question: Where should I look to find documentation about scripts > like this? I haven't found it mentioned in either the handbook or the > manpages. I don't know. It might not be documented so well yet, but there's an rc mailing list, try search the archive: http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-rc/ Cheers, Erik -- Ph: +34.666334818 web: www.locolomo.org S/MIME Certificate: www.daemonsecurity.com/ca/8D03551FFCE04F06.crt Subject ID: 9E:AA:18:E6:94:7A:91:44:0A:E4:DD:87:73:7F:4E:82:E7:08:9C:72 Fingerprint: 5B:D5:1E:3E:47:E7:EC:1C:4C:C8:3A:19:CC:AE:14:F5:DF:18:0F:B9 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Dec 16 13:26:47 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6DAA316A420 for ; Fri, 16 Dec 2005 13:26:47 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from Marc.Dufresne@parks.on.ca) Received: from mailscanftp.parks.on.ca (mailscanftp.parks.on.ca [72.1.212.101]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EF3A943D45 for ; Fri, 16 Dec 2005 13:26:46 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from Marc.Dufresne@parks.on.ca) Received: from server.parks.on.ca (server.parks.on.ca [72.1.212.100]) by mailscanftp.parks.on.ca (8.13.3/8.13.3) with ESMTP id jBGDNdYP075692 for ; Fri, 16 Dec 2005 08:23:39 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from Marc.Dufresne@parks.on.ca) Received: from HeadQuarters-MTA by server.parks.on.ca with Novell_GroupWise; Fri, 16 Dec 2005 08:24:38 -0500 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise Internet Agent 6.5.3 Date: Fri, 16 Dec 2005 08:24:19 -0500 From: "Marc Dufresne" To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="=__Part5A78B613.0__=" X-SLPC-MailScanner-Information: Please contact the ISP for more information X-SLPC-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-SLPC-MailScanner-From: marc.dufresne@parks.on.ca Subject: SA-LEARN Keeps crashing at DBM.pm Line 624 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 16 Dec 2005 13:26:47 -0000 This is a MIME message. If you are reading this text, you may want to consider changing to a mail reader or gateway that understands how to properly handle MIME multipart messages. --=__Part5A78B613.0__= Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Posted this on the MailScanner Forum. I was told to post this also on the FreeBSD Questions Forum or SpamAssassin Forum. Hope this is the right forum!!!! Brief History on OS I'm using. FreeBSD 5.4 Perl 5.8.6 Installed MailScanner 4.44.6 and everything else using Install-Clam-SA.tar.gz from http://www.sng.ecs.soton.ac.uk/mailscanner/downloads.shtml MailScanner, SpamAssassin and Sendmail all working fine. The only problem I am having is with SA-LEARN. Problem: Since my installation of MailScanner I have always been able to use sa-learn --spam --force-expire --mbox /var/mail/spammail with no issues. Over the last couple of days, when I try to run sa-learn against my spam mailbox, I receive the following error: sa-learn --spam --force-expire --mbox /var/mail/spammail bayes: expire_old_tokens: Out of memory during ridiculously large request at /usr/local/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.8.7/Mail/SpamAssassin/BayesStore/DBM.pm line 624. I have tried everything to resolve this issue. As my last resort, I installed Portmanager on FreeBSD to manage my ports tree. When I ran Portmanager, it upgraded Perl to 5.8.7. After the upgrade, I had to run the perl-after-upgrade utility to ensure all of my apps see the new version of Perl. This is the commands I used: perl-after-upgrade perl-after-upgrade -f Even after the upgrade and I verified that MailScanner, SA and sendmail were working, I ran sa-learn --spam --force-expire --mbox /var/mail/spammail again. I still received the same error. I also have tried to separate the commands as follows: sa-learn --force-expire sa-learn --spam --mbox /var/mail/spammail It crashes with the same error after I execute the --force-expire command. Here are my stats for sa-learn --dump magic 0.000 0 3 0 non-token data: bayes db version 0.000 0 3016 0 non-token data: nspam 0.000 0 11613 0 non-token data: nham 0.000 0 309357 0 non-token data: ntokens 0.000 0 1133683248 0 non-token data: oldest atime 0.000 0 1134569167 0 non-token data: newest atime 0.000 0 0 0 non-token data: last journal sync atime 0.000 0 1134029107 0 non-token data: last expiry atime 0.000 0 345600 0 non-token data: last expire atime delta 0.000 0 90997 0 non-token data: last expire reduction count Right now, I'm using Portmanager -u -l upgrade all ports again and to verify all ports are installed correctly. I don't want to re-install Perl 5.8.7 again, since individuals have said it might fail. Any ideas on what I can do from here???? Marc Dufresne, Corporate IT Officer St. Lawrence Parks Commission 13740 County Road 2 Morrisburg, ON K0C 1X0 E-mail: Marc.Dufresne@parks.on.ca Voice: 613-543-3704 Ext#2455 Fax: 613-543-2847 Corporate website: www.parks.on.ca --=__Part5A78B613.0__= Content-Type: text/plain; name="Marc Dufresne.vcf" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="Marc Dufresne.vcf" BEGIN:VCARD VERSION:2.1 X-GWTYPE:USER FN:Marc Dufresne TEL;WORK:613-543-3704 ORG:;Information Technology TEL;PREF;FAX:613-543-2847 EMAIL;WORK;PREF;NGW:Marc.Dufresne@parks.on.ca N:Dufresne;Marc TITLE:Corporate IT Officer END:VCARD --=__Part5A78B613.0__=-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Dec 16 13:38:45 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DC58C16A41F for ; Fri, 16 Dec 2005 13:38:45 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from xfb52@dial.pipex.com) Received: from smtp-out6.blueyonder.co.uk (smtp-out6.blueyonder.co.uk [195.188.213.9]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9587D43D66 for ; Fri, 16 Dec 2005 13:38:40 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from xfb52@dial.pipex.com) Received: from [192.168.0.2] ([82.41.253.189]) by smtp-out6.blueyonder.co.uk with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.6713); Fri, 16 Dec 2005 13:39:35 +0000 Message-ID: <43A2C35E.9060206@dial.pipex.com> Date: Fri, 16 Dec 2005 13:38:38 +0000 From: Alex Zbyslaw User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-GB; rv:1.7.12) Gecko/20051106 X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <20051216123357.4932.qmail@web31611.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <20051216131451.GV2413@merkur.atekomi.net> In-Reply-To: <20051216131451.GV2413@merkur.atekomi.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-OriginalArrivalTime: 16 Dec 2005 13:39:35.0163 (UTC) FILETIME=[26FBA4B0:01C60246] Subject: Re: swap - 2 HDs X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 16 Dec 2005 13:38:46 -0000 Will Maier wrote: >On Fri, Dec 16, 2005 at 09:33:57AM -0300, Aguiar Magalhaes wrote: > > >>Is It recommended to configure swap area in both HDs ?? >> >> > >I don't see the point -- swap is where pages that don't fit in your >real memory go. It's less optimal than real memory in terms of >latency, but I don't see how two disks would make swap performance >much better. > > This is contrary to the "usual" advice which is to split swap across disks AFAIK. I've never done any benchmarks, but my gut feeling would be that if the disks were on separate controllers, and if the machine did swap regularly then two swap partitions would be beneficial. Even on the same controller it could easily make a difference since individual IDE/SATA disks can't actually reach the performance of the channel as a whole. Given that these are large hard disks, what's 2 or 4Gb in the grand scheme? A drop in the ocean, so I would (and do) put swap on both. Of course, if the machine actually swaps regularly then investing in more RAM would give the best performance! --Alex PS If the two disks are larger than your actual needs, then you might want to consider emergency scenarios like one of your disks dieing. If, for example, you put a spare, bootable version of FreeBSD on the 2nd disk to aid recovery then that OS will need a swap partition anyway and you might as well use it regularly. $0.02 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Dec 16 13:47:46 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0C8AB16A420 for ; Fri, 16 Dec 2005 13:47:46 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from uwe@laverenz.de) Received: from natnoddy.rzone.de (natnoddy.rzone.de [81.169.145.166]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0B25843D5C for ; Fri, 16 Dec 2005 13:47:42 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from uwe@laverenz.de) Received: from athena.laverenz.de (p5480EF70.dip.t-dialin.net [84.128.239.112]) by post.webmailer.de (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id jBGDlemJ018799 for ; Fri, 16 Dec 2005 14:47:40 +0100 (MET) Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by athena.laverenz.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 19847E393C37 for ; Fri, 16 Dec 2005 14:47:40 +0100 (CET) Received: from athena.laverenz.de ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (athena [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 23387-03 for ; Fri, 16 Dec 2005 14:47:39 +0100 (CET) Received: by athena.laverenz.de (Postfix, from userid 2000) id 05309E393C36; Fri, 16 Dec 2005 14:47:38 +0100 (CET) Date: Fri, 16 Dec 2005 14:47:38 +0100 From: Uwe Laverenz To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20051216134738.GC20554@laverenz.de> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <200512131412.24449.gentoo@tmgcon.com> <20051213134703.GB13012@laverenz.de> <200512151429.06153.gentoo@tmgcon.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <200512151429.06153.gentoo@tmgcon.com> Organization: private site Sender: uwe@laverenz.de User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.9i X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new-20030616-p10 (Debian) at laverenz.de Subject: Re: Problem installing devel/pear X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 16 Dec 2005 13:47:46 -0000 On Thu, Dec 15, 2005 at 02:29:06PM +1300, Tom Munro Glass wrote: > Uwe, I've seen the thread on the ports@ mailing list but there doesn't seem to It seems nobody else has this problem and nobody else cares. > be any mention of a solution there yet. Have you managed to fix the problem > on your machines yet? Sorry, I've no solution so far. I get devel/pear installed with brute force, when I install it before php4-extensions: # pkg_delete php4-* pecl-* pear-* # portinstall lang/php4 # portinstall devel/pear # cd /usr/ports/lang/php4-extensions # make rmconfig # portinstall lang/php4-extensions But this does not really help, because as soon as I start to install other pear-ports (pear-File_Passwd, pear-Auth...), I get: ===> Installing tests in /usr/local/share/pear/tests/File_Passwd. install ok: channel://pear.php.net/File_Passwd-1.1.5 Segmentation fault (core dumped) *** Error code 139 I've wasted several hours now, I give up. :-( Uwe From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Dec 16 14:03:48 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CED4516A41F for ; Fri, 16 Dec 2005 14:03:48 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from helge.preuss@gmx.net) Received: from mail.gmx.net (mail.gmx.de [213.165.64.21]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 9DD3443D6D for ; Fri, 16 Dec 2005 14:03:41 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from helge.preuss@gmx.net) Received: (qmail invoked by alias); 16 Dec 2005 14:03:40 -0000 Received: from e178080151.adsl.alicedsl.de (EHLO [192.168.0.146]) [85.178.80.151] by mail.gmx.net (mp038) with SMTP; 16 Dec 2005 15:03:40 +0100 X-Authenticated: #6367088 Message-ID: <43A2C96C.90304@gmx.net> Date: Fri, 16 Dec 2005 15:04:28 +0100 From: Helge Preuss User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.7 (X11/20051204) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Erik Norgaard References: <43A2AD65.9080607@gmx.net> <43A2AFD6.4000506@locolomo.org> <43A2B86B.9020800@gmx.net> <43A2C06A.4040805@locolomo.org> In-Reply-To: <43A2C06A.4040805@locolomo.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Y-GMX-Trusted: 0 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Order of rc file execution [solved] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 16 Dec 2005 14:03:48 -0000 Erik Norgaard wrote: > Helge Preuss wrote: > >> >>>> I use a GBDE-encrypted /var partition which i attach and mount >>>> during boot in rc.local. >>> >>> >>> why don't you use /etc/rc.d/gbde? (btw, which version of FBSD?). >> >> >> Heh, because I didn't know about it! Thanks, this looks like the >> cleanest solution. >> >> How do I use this script? If I interpret the source correctly, I >> should just set >> gbde_devices-auto="AUTO" >> in /etc/rc.conf and enter my encrypted partition in the fstab? > Actually, the variable ${gbde_devices-auto} in /etc/rc.d/gdbe is almost certainly a typo. I changed it to ${gbde_devices_auto}. Additionally, one has to set gbde_lock_[device]=/path/to/lockfile or gbde_lockdir=/path/to/lockdir [where the lockfile(s) must have the encrypted slice's name and a '.lock' extension in /etc/rc.conf. Having done this, i have a solution for mounting encrypted partition at boot, which seems perfectly clean to me. Wonderful. >> >> Dummy question: Where should I look to find documentation about >> scripts like this? I haven't found it mentioned in either the >> handbook or the manpages. > > > I don't know. It might not be documented so well yet, but there's an > rc mailing list, try search the archive: > > http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-rc/ > > Cheers, Erik -- Helge Preuss Freelance Software Developer +49 177 2262 484 helge.preuss@gmx.net From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Dec 16 14:15:24 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9DDDD16A420 for ; Fri, 16 Dec 2005 14:15:24 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from thiago_est@yahoo.com.br) Received: from web30014.mail.mud.yahoo.com (web30014.mail.mud.yahoo.com [68.142.201.217]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 1929E43D55 for ; Fri, 16 Dec 2005 14:15:23 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from thiago_est@yahoo.com.br) Received: (qmail 2485 invoked by uid 60001); 16 Dec 2005 14:15:22 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com.br; h=Message-ID:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=y+pBeD6cGCcAZgt6JrSiOtNnqYByo1y+Ltd8R5BN4xYDvQkKyjlsg7T0EDHhfgsmi4N1E96nwXk+3a4JmqFfSyMYasU+h/ME5XRIuTy5fpbSok4tgq2wVS4P5jhC5NVPeCp28S8LHxREx30R9b0yISm+in5V7+s5v4rUxo3WC4E= ; Message-ID: <20051216141522.2483.qmail@web30014.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Received: from [146.164.26.11] by web30014.mail.mud.yahoo.com via HTTP; Fri, 16 Dec 2005 11:15:22 ART Date: Fri, 16 Dec 2005 11:15:22 -0300 (ART) From: Thiago Esteves To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: Applying short cable fix (reg=ee) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 16 Dec 2005 14:15:24 -0000 Hi, I'm from Brazil. My ethernet interface is a "sis". During boot it sends the message: sis0: Applying short cable fix (reg=ee) What's it ? Help me ! ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---------------------- "sis" --------------------- | | | | The sis(4) driver supports Silicon Integrated Systems SiS 900 and SiS 7016 based Fast Ethernet adapters and embedded controllers, as well as Fast Ethernet adapters based on the National Semiconductor DP83815 (MacPhyter) chip. Supported adapters include: @Nifty FNECHARD IFC USUP-TX MELCO LGY-PCI-TXC Netgear FA311-TX (DP83815) Netgear FA312-TX (DP83815) SiS 630, 635, and 735 motherboard chipsets --------------------------------- Yahoo! doce lar. Faça do Yahoo! sua homepage. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Dec 16 14:37:41 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D525616A41F for ; Fri, 16 Dec 2005 14:37:41 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from lars+lister.freebsd@adventuras.no) Received: from mail.adventuras.no (mail.adventuras.no [194.63.250.215]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 16A8A43D49 for ; Fri, 16 Dec 2005 14:37:40 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from lars+lister.freebsd@adventuras.no) Received: from mail.adventuras.no (seven [127.0.0.1]) by mail.adventuras.no (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id jBGEbFjt002075 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NO) for ; Fri, 16 Dec 2005 15:37:15 +0100 Received: (from apache@localhost) by mail.adventuras.no (8.12.10/8.12.10/Submit) id jBGEbFLe002073; Fri, 16 Dec 2005 15:37:15 +0100 Received: from 213.236.228.129 (SquirrelMail authenticated user lars) by mail.adventuras.no with HTTP; Fri, 16 Dec 2005 15:37:15 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <63972.213.236.228.129.1134743835.squirrel@mail.adventuras.no> In-Reply-To: <43A2C35E.9060206@dial.pipex.com> References: <20051216123357.4932.qmail@web31611.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <20051216131451.GV2413@merkur.atekomi.net> <43A2C35E.9060206@dial.pipex.com> Date: Fri, 16 Dec 2005 15:37:15 +0100 (CET) From: "Lars Kristiansen" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.4-1 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal X-Adventuras-MailScanner-Information: Please contact the ISP for more information X-Adventuras: du kan filtrere etter AdvSpamScore over 5-10 X-Adventuras-SpamCheck: not spam, SpamAssassin (score=-4.399, required 6, autolearn=not spam, ALL_TRUSTED -1.80, BAYES_00 -2.60) X-MailScanner-From: lars+lister.freebsd@adventuras.no Subject: Re: swap - 2 HDs X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 16 Dec 2005 14:37:41 -0000 > Will Maier wrote: > >>On Fri, Dec 16, 2005 at 09:33:57AM -0300, Aguiar Magalhaes wrote: >> >> >>>Is It recommended to configure swap area in both HDs ?? >>> >>> >> >>I don't see the point -- swap is where pages that don't fit in your >>real memory go. It's less optimal than real memory in terms of >>latency, but I don't see how two disks would make swap performance >>much better. >> >> > This is contrary to the "usual" advice which is to split swap across > disks AFAIK. I've never done any benchmarks, but my gut feeling would > be that if the disks were on separate controllers, and if the machine > did swap regularly then two swap partitions would be beneficial. Even > on the same controller it could easily make a difference since > individual IDE/SATA disks can't actually reach the performance of the > channel as a whole. >From observation one can see that freebsd use the swap-partitions equally. You probarly do want to make swap-partitions on all disks, but you may later want to swapoff what is on the most busy disk if the disks are unequally busy. -- Lars > > Given that these are large hard disks, what's 2 or 4Gb in the grand > scheme? A drop in the ocean, so I would (and do) put swap on both. > > Of course, if the machine actually swaps regularly then investing in > more RAM would give the best performance! > > --Alex > > PS If the two disks are larger than your actual needs, then you might > want to consider emergency scenarios like one of your disks dieing. If, > for example, you put a spare, bootable version of FreeBSD on the 2nd > disk to aid recovery then that OS will need a swap partition anyway and > you might as well use it regularly. $0.02 > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Dec 16 14:40:38 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CDB2E16A41F for ; Fri, 16 Dec 2005 14:40:38 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from nvidican@wmptl.com) Received: from wmptl.net (fw1.wmptl.com [216.8.159.129]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9EDB743D53 for ; Fri, 16 Dec 2005 14:40:28 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from nvidican@wmptl.com) Received: from [10.0.0.104] (r3140ca.wmptl.net [10.0.0.104]) by wmptl.net (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id jBGEe6mQ091641; Fri, 16 Dec 2005 09:40:10 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from nvidican@wmptl.com) Message-ID: <43A2D1C6.2070209@wmptl.com> Date: Fri, 16 Dec 2005 09:40:06 -0500 From: Nathan Vidican User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.6 (X11/20050716) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: kyr References: <43A22A68.7020300@ee.duth.gr> In-Reply-To: <43A22A68.7020300@ee.duth.gr> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-7; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Score: 0.111 () RATWR10_MESSID X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.44 Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: good nic for server??? 3com 3C2000-T driver support in freebsd 5.4 ???? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 16 Dec 2005 14:40:39 -0000 kyr wrote: > I want to ask if 3com 3C2000-T network adapter is suported by freebsd > 5.4 (i know that it is suported by release 6 but our server has 5.4). > Anyway does anybody have any suggestion for a good network card for a > server? > We DON"T need gigabit but if it worth the money ... ok > > thanks > Kyriakos > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > As someone as already replied: HANDS-DOWN, best 100mbit card I've ever used (regardless of O/S) and best supported by various O/S's for that matter is the Intel EtherExpress Pro 100 cards, specifically the older Pro 100/B's if you can get them - used to buy them in bulk lots on ebay for like $5-$10 / each, retail/new they run about $45/each but are worth every cent. Stability and performance from these cards are rock solid. They make use of the fxp driver, and a few versions back (quite a few actually) FreeBSD moved over from an fxp driver that ran 'standalone', to a newer fxp driver which now requires the mIIbus driver too - I don't know what ramifications if any this has had on performance - but as far as the hardware goes I still trust these cards explicitly. Not know the differences in the code well enough to tell you what/why and can't even remember when that changed actually... but I've been using these intel boards and the fxp driver on FreeBSD since 2.2.1-release without a single hitch, including used boards from ebay ;) lol - come to think of it, still have a couple little 486 running 2.2.x branch around here with these intel cards in them :) - for what it's worth, they're still running (uh, not anything critical mind you, the rest of the machine/software's fairly dated for that). I have however had horrible experiences with d-link, nvidia, admtek, and various realtek chipsets on 'generic' cheap cards... bottom line, you generally pay for what you get - and if you want solid 100mbps performance, you can bank on Intel net cards. I don't know about 3Com, some cards I've had great luck with, others a pain in the ass... specifically the 3C905 series, rev 'A' was ok, 'C' too - but if ya had a revision 'B' - watch out kinda thing... gave up on using 3Com cards way back because of that - wait till you know the product's solid and complete before you release it, re-releasing stuff or fixing it after you sold it is a micrsoft thing, not something I'd expect from my hardware manufacturer. Just my two cents, but hope it helps. -- Nathan Vidican nvidican@wmptl.com Windsor Match Plate & Tool Ltd. http://www.wmptl.com/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Dec 16 15:01:38 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EA69216A41F for ; Fri, 16 Dec 2005 15:01:38 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from freebsd-listen@fabiankeil.de) Received: from smtprelay01.ispgateway.de (smtprelay01.ispgateway.de [80.67.18.13]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9C39C43D9A for ; Fri, 16 Dec 2005 15:01:24 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from freebsd-listen@fabiankeil.de) Received: (qmail 29200 invoked from network); 16 Dec 2005 15:01:18 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO TP51.local) ([pbs]775067@[217.187.182.222]) (envelope-sender ) by smtprelay01.ispgateway.de (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for ; 16 Dec 2005 15:01:18 -0000 Date: Fri, 16 Dec 2005 16:00:46 +0100 From: Fabian Keil To: Thiago Esteves Message-ID: <20051216160046.77357710@TP51.local> In-Reply-To: <20051216141522.2483.qmail@web30014.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <20051216141522.2483.qmail@web30014.mail.mud.yahoo.com> X-Mailer: Sylpheed-Claws 1.9.100 (GTK+ 2.8.6; i386-portbld-freebsd5.4) X-PGP-KEY-URL: http://www.fabiankeil.de/gpg-keys/freebsd-listen-2006-08-19.asc Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary=Sig_XG73Cz6rQGQKUotDFFPwx+k; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=PGP-SHA1 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Applying short cable fix (reg=ee) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 16 Dec 2005 15:01:39 -0000 --Sig_XG73Cz6rQGQKUotDFFPwx+k Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Thiago Esteves wrote: > Hi, I'm from Brazil. My ethernet interface is a "sis". During boot > it sends the message:=20 > =20 > sis0: Applying short cable fix (reg=3Dee) > =20 > =20 > What's it ? Help me !=20 Excerpt from /usr/src/sys/pci/if_sis.c: /* * Some DP83815s experience problems when used with short * (< 30m/100ft) Ethernet cables in 100BaseTX mode. This * sequence adjusts the DSP's signal attenuation to fix the * problem. */ Fabian --=20 http://www.fabiankeil.de/ --Sig_XG73Cz6rQGQKUotDFFPwx+k Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Disposition: attachment; filename=signature.asc -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.2 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFDotaxjV8GA4rMKUQRAh5RAJ9OC8a3PQ5YhpMCloRFz+z+5nzfBwCdFnfM +dbIMJC/dtGLFeGFdDbjCC4= =PZ16 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Sig_XG73Cz6rQGQKUotDFFPwx+k-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Dec 16 15:09:04 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D3C9F16A41F for ; Fri, 16 Dec 2005 15:09:04 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from davmiao@gmail.com) Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.194]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1051B43D5A for ; Fri, 16 Dec 2005 15:09:03 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from davmiao@gmail.com) Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id i14so907085wra for ; Fri, 16 Dec 2005 07:09:03 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; b=W02oxH55sVPA6bXbpO9AHpoURDeLlY4Y3aF5BbSZSymlQIw1mYnWj9Iz1H73yvoEubzXnid/ySZ3ZvbTRB+1rwnlAGHUKWLqzmIEjy7qeDKtBE3+jT+T6w39+B8032EsxDEhwjQ5TMmWjuirHcbYMKcebhK12dBA39J0s6InRKc= Received: by 10.65.152.8 with SMTP id e8mr229476qbo; Fri, 16 Dec 2005 07:09:02 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.65.51.14 with HTTP; Fri, 16 Dec 2005 07:09:02 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <979f20140512160709n3530c01dmdad5714f8e30bc00@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 16 Dec 2005 23:09:02 +0800 From: David Miao To: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline Subject: C++ compile error X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 16 Dec 2005 15:09:04 -0000 Dear list, I try to compile a hello world C++ program in FreeBSD 6.0, but get an error as below: [dm@ORION ~/cpp]% CC -o hello hello.C hello.C: In function `int main()': hello.C:5: error: `cout' undeclared (first use this function) hello.C:5: error: (Each undeclared identifier is reported only once for each function it appears in.) hello.C:5: error: `endl' undeclared (first use this function) I noticed that "iostream" file is located in "/usr/include/c++/3.4/iostream", I guess my CC compiler cannot find this head file. Is it true? And how can I fix this problem? Your advice is appreciated. Thanks in advance. =3D=3Dquote of hello world code=3D=3D #include int main() { cout << "Hello World!" << endl; return 0; } =3D=3D end of quote=3D=3D Regards, David From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Dec 16 15:23:05 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 624E816A41F for ; Fri, 16 Dec 2005 15:23:05 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from goodredhat@yahoo.com) Received: from web34006.mail.mud.yahoo.com (web34006.mail.mud.yahoo.com [66.163.178.87]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id DE9B043D4C for ; Fri, 16 Dec 2005 15:23:04 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from goodredhat@yahoo.com) Received: (qmail 46159 invoked by uid 60001); 16 Dec 2005 15:23:03 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=iGtX/g2dNxZWbv2N4PsKPQsgzb5imCYWovKhJwdPSCTXF2W/LFEND6QNrXqQ5e40+ZrjyLEgdngy27enHm3kmE6FfiBb9cizAWqnMtkR83KNf6DGt5Zsd4lci+bybgcQIQVqOJgnviaPw/OWTFmwcG08tFiXoBEG9NFAtokEylw= ; Message-ID: <20051216152303.46157.qmail@web34006.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Received: from [202.54.195.82] by web34006.mail.mud.yahoo.com via HTTP; Fri, 16 Dec 2005 07:23:03 PST Date: Fri, 16 Dec 2005 07:23:03 -0800 (PST) From: manish jain To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="0-1219919036-1134746583=:45331" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: Newbie problems with svscan and arp X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 16 Dec 2005 15:23:05 -0000 --0-1219919036-1134746583=:45331 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Hi, I am trying my hand at FreeBSD administration and would greatly appreciate assistance with some problems I am facing with setting up mail services and the network properly. My system has 2 network cards (rl0 and dc0). rl0 has been assigned a local IP (192.168.10.37/255.255.255.0) and dc0 has been assigned a real IP (202.54.195.85/255.255.255.240). The gateway is 202.54.195.81 and the name server 202.54.1.30. After booting my console starts getting the following message : "192.168.10.1 is on rl0 but got reply from dc0". What is the error I might be committing ? The local router is located at 192.168.10.55, but I don't know where to put this information. Despite the message, I am able to access the internet smoothly. Further, I am trying to set up qmail as the MTA. Qmail apparantly needs svscan from the daemontools port to be running. My rc.local calls /usr/local/bin/svscanboot& at system startup, but when I do 'ps -waux | grep svscan', I get nothing. A few qmail processes are however running. How do I get svscan to start ? My rc.conf, inetd.conf, hosts and /usr/local/etc/rc.d/svscan.sh files are attached. Thanks for any help. 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Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com --0-1219919036-1134746583=:45331-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Dec 16 15:25:09 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DD76A16A41F for ; Fri, 16 Dec 2005 15:25:09 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from danial_thom@yahoo.com) Received: from web33314.mail.mud.yahoo.com (web33314.mail.mud.yahoo.com [68.142.206.129]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id BBADE43D4C for ; Fri, 16 Dec 2005 15:25:08 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from danial_thom@yahoo.com) Received: (qmail 8424 invoked by uid 60001); 16 Dec 2005 15:25:07 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:Received:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=Xo7gdHI46GePJeRgwGJEvc3bjfkls6BLbdGdCZOV++ko1PZPPPzMJUKbwLFXvqpWR5ApHkN1VZmIujybvi2ntUZZ1x+jHeNLvijD1pE33d0xPKedJYGZwCrXYBjiQC72SXl+3eTxHcv6Qzt4ZKtnlwwO7NJ5YjzxuMNO4tn9lhM= ; Message-ID: <20051216152507.8422.qmail@web33314.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Received: from [24.46.186.215] by web33314.mail.mud.yahoo.com via HTTP; Fri, 16 Dec 2005 07:25:07 PST Date: Fri, 16 Dec 2005 07:25:07 -0800 (PST) From: Danial Thom To: Cezar Fistik , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <1808066969.20051214224200@arax.md> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Cc: Subject: Re: Re[4]: Polling For 100 mbps Connections? (Was Re: Freebsd ThemeSong) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: danial_thom@yahoo.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 16 Dec 2005 15:25:10 -0000 --- Cezar Fistik wrote: > Hello all, > > > Or maybe FreeBSD just sucks wind? I promise > you > > that no machine known to man can pass 150Mb/s > and > > be 99% idle. Get a god-damned clue for pete's > > sake. All polling does is screw up accounting > so > > the timings are wrong. At best there's a > marginal > > difference in performance. You still have to > > process the packets. > > > Lets see, this "Test" would mean that his box > > could handle 100 x 150Mb/s, or 15Gb/s. Thats > > quite a little router you have there! lol. > > > > I have to recognize that I didn't follow the > thread very carefuly and > I propbably missed some posts. I just wanted to > say that when using > freebsd as a pure router using intel cards, > polling realy helps. I've > noticed 10-20% CPU utilization decrease with > polling enabled. Second, I > didn't mean 150Megabytes/sec, rather > Megabits/sec. Third the actual > CPU load is ranging from 0-4% (according to > top), but with an average > of 1%. And finally I just did a test and > enabled polling on that box. > The CPU idle state immediately dropped to 88% > while interrupts > increased to 10-12%. > > P.S > Danial, have a look at this > http://www.webopedia.com/TERM/M/Mbps.html With all due respect, you haven't a clue. Do you know math? 99% idle implies 1% utilization. So 150 Mega Bits per second X 100 is 15gigaBITS per seconds is the capacity of your system, using match. Which is stupid. Anyone who thinks that is accurate is just plain stupid. THE MEASUREMENTS DON'T WORK WITH POLLING ENABLED. Are you able to understand that? 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Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Dec 16 15:31:31 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2DE4116A41F for ; Fri, 16 Dec 2005 15:31:31 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from nvidican@wmptl.com) Received: from wmptl.net (fw1.wmptl.com [216.8.159.129]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0402443D58 for ; Fri, 16 Dec 2005 15:31:29 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from nvidican@wmptl.com) Received: from [10.0.0.104] (r3140ca.wmptl.net [10.0.0.104]) by wmptl.net (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id jBGFVS0t093347; Fri, 16 Dec 2005 10:31:28 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from nvidican@wmptl.com) Message-ID: <43A2DDCF.1030708@wmptl.com> Date: Fri, 16 Dec 2005 10:31:27 -0500 From: Nathan Vidican User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.6 (X11/20050716) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: David Miao References: <979f20140512160709n3530c01dmdad5714f8e30bc00@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <979f20140512160709n3530c01dmdad5714f8e30bc00@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Score: 0.711 () J_CHICKENPOX_43,RATWR10_MESSID X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.44 Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: C++ compile error X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 16 Dec 2005 15:31:31 -0000 David Miao wrote: > Dear list, > > I try to compile a hello world C++ program in FreeBSD 6.0, but get an > error as below: > > [dm@ORION ~/cpp]% CC -o hello hello.C > hello.C: In function `int main()': > hello.C:5: error: `cout' undeclared (first use this function) > hello.C:5: error: (Each undeclared identifier is reported only once > for each function it appears in.) > hello.C:5: error: `endl' undeclared (first use this function) > > I noticed that "iostream" file is located in > "/usr/include/c++/3.4/iostream", I guess my CC compiler cannot find > this head file. Is it true? And how can I fix this problem? Your > advice is appreciated. Thanks in advance. > > ==quote of hello world code== > #include > > int main() > { > cout << "Hello World!" << endl; > > return 0; > } > == end of quote== > > Regards, > David > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > > gcc assumes a '.C' file is ANSI C, not C++, try: mv hello.C hello.cpp && gcc -o hello.exe hello.cpp simple hellow world: #include using namespace std; int main(int argc,char* argv[]) { cout << "Hello World!" << endl; return 0; } // end of file Should work - reply if not :) -- Nathan Vidican nvidican@wmptl.com Windsor Match Plate & Tool Ltd. http://www.wmptl.com/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Dec 16 15:34:08 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B9E1116A42B for ; Fri, 16 Dec 2005 15:34:08 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from nvidican@wmptl.com) Received: from wmptl.net (fw1.wmptl.com [216.8.159.129]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AE15343D7B for ; Fri, 16 Dec 2005 15:34:03 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from nvidican@wmptl.com) Received: from [10.0.0.104] (r3140ca.wmptl.net [10.0.0.104]) by wmptl.net (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id jBGFXdhe093421; Fri, 16 Dec 2005 10:33:41 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from nvidican@wmptl.com) Message-ID: <43A2DE53.7080207@wmptl.com> Date: Fri, 16 Dec 2005 10:33:39 -0500 From: Nathan Vidican User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.6 (X11/20050716) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: David Miao References: <979f20140512160709n3530c01dmdad5714f8e30bc00@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <979f20140512160709n3530c01dmdad5714f8e30bc00@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Score: 0.111 () RATWR10_MESSID X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.44 Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: C++ compile error X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 16 Dec 2005 15:34:08 -0000 David Miao wrote: > Dear list, > > I try to compile a hello world C++ program in FreeBSD 6.0, but get an > error as below: > > [dm@ORION ~/cpp]% CC -o hello hello.C > hello.C: In function `int main()': > hello.C:5: error: `cout' undeclared (first use this function) > hello.C:5: error: (Each undeclared identifier is reported only once > for each function it appears in.) > hello.C:5: error: `endl' undeclared (first use this function) > > I noticed that "iostream" file is located in > "/usr/include/c++/3.4/iostream", I guess my CC compiler cannot find > this head file. Is it true? And how can I fix this problem? Your > advice is appreciated. Thanks in advance. > > ==quote of hello world code== > #include > > int main() > { > cout << "Hello World!" << endl; > > return 0; > } > == end of quote== > > Regards, > David > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > > Also, noticed your code is flawed, you never used a namespace, nor explicitly stated one. cout is part of the 'std' namespace, so either ' using namespace std;' for global/local use of namespace, OR do 'std::cout <<' instead. Try the hello.cpp I sent you in the last email, that one should work for ya :) -- Nathan Vidican nvidican@wmptl.com Windsor Match Plate & Tool Ltd. http://www.wmptl.com/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Dec 16 15:36:16 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2FFD516A41F for ; Fri, 16 Dec 2005 15:36:16 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from danial_thom@yahoo.com) Received: from web33302.mail.mud.yahoo.com (web33302.mail.mud.yahoo.com [68.142.206.117]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 9B43E43D64 for ; Fri, 16 Dec 2005 15:36:15 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from danial_thom@yahoo.com) Received: (qmail 74874 invoked by uid 60001); 16 Dec 2005 15:36:15 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:Received:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=uMz3o94rxNmjuK3xwH4cCyfKplJyD3alcN/aOj61LT00bnvOxhXlNRQ91j1sHAHZkIEBWib+2lM236+pH6ld1yvbrXcqWorIieiv5N3lqT/C1R+PNt0nEGaDvUMqB26fBmGDkte6G/H7NnGbyStRoJ34Pch5MH80kfYqqqejkco= ; Message-ID: <20051216153615.74872.qmail@web33302.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Received: from [24.46.186.215] by web33302.mail.mud.yahoo.com via HTTP; Fri, 16 Dec 2005 07:36:15 PST Date: Fri, 16 Dec 2005 07:36:15 -0800 (PST) From: Danial Thom To: Sasa Stupar , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Cc: Subject: Re: Polling For 100 mbps Connections? (Was Re: Freebsd Theme Song) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: danial_thom@yahoo.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 16 Dec 2005 15:36:16 -0000 --- Sasa Stupar wrote: > > > --On 15. december 2005 6:33 -0800 Drew > Tomlinson > wrote: > > > On 12/15/2005 12:33 AM Sasa Stupar wrote: > > > >> > >> > >> --On 14. december 2005 20:01 -0800 Ted > Mittelstaedt > >> wrote: > >> > >>> > >>> > >>>> -----Original Message----- > >>>> From: Danial Thom > [mailto:danial_thom@yahoo.com] > >>>> Sent: Wednesday, December 14, 2005 11:14 > AM > >>>> To: Ted Mittelstaedt; Drew Tomlinson > >>>> Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > >>>> Subject: RE: Polling For 100 mbps > Connections? (Was Re: Freebsd Theme > >>>> Song) > >>>> > >>> > >>>>> Well, if polling does no good for fxp, > due to > >>>>> the > >>>>> hardware doing controlled interrupts, > then why > >>>>> does > >>>>> the fxp driver even let you set it as an > >>>>> option? > >>>>> And why have many people who have enabled > it on > >>>>> fxp seen an improvement? > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> They haven't, freebsd accounting doesn't > work > >>>> properly with polling enabled, and "they" > don't > >>>> have the ability to "know" if they are > getting > >>>> better performance, because "they", like > you, > >>>> have no clue what they're doing. How about > all > >>>> the idiots running MP with FreeBSD 4.x, > when we > >>>> know its just a waste of time? "they" all > think > >>>> they're getting worthwhile performance, > because > >>>> "they" are clueless. > >>>> > >>> > >>> I would call them idiots if they are > running MP under > >>> FreeBSD and assuming that they are getting > better > >>> performance without actually testing for > it. But > >>> if they are just running MP because they > happen to be > >>> using an MP server, and they want to see if > it will > >>> work or not, who cares? > >>> > >>>> Maybe its tunable because they guy who > wrote the > >>>> driver made it a tunable? duh. I've yet to > see > >>>> one credible, controlled test that shows > polling > >>>> vs properly tuned interrupt-driven. > >>>> > >>> > >>> Hm, OK I believe that. As I recall I asked > you earlier to > >>> post the test setup you used for your own > tests > >>> "proving" that polling is worse, and you > haven't > >>> done so yet. Now you are saying you have > never seen > >>> a credible controlled test that shows > polling vs > >>> interrupt-driven. So I guess either you > were blind > >>> when you ran your own tests, or your own > tests > >>> are not credible, controlled polling vs > properly > >>> tuned interrupt-driven. As I have been > saying > >>> all along. Now your agreeing with me. > >>> > >>>> The only advantage of polling is that it > will > >>>> drop packets instead of going into > livelock. The > >>>> disadvantage is that it will drop packets > when > >>>> you have momentary bursts that would > harmlessly > >>>> put the machine into livelock. Thats about > it. > >>>> > >>> > >>> Ah, now I think suddenly I see what the > chip on your > >>> shoulder is. You would rather have your > router based > >>> on FreeBSD go into livelock while packets > stack up, > >>> than drop anything. You tested the polling > code and found > >>> that yipes, it drops packets. > >>> > >>> What may I ask do you think that a Cisco or > other > >>> router does when you shove 10Mbt of traffic > into it's > >>> Ethernet interface destined for a host > behind a T1 that > >>> is plugged into the other end? (and no, > source-quench > >>> is not the correct answer) > >>> > >>> I think the scenario of it being better to > momentary go into > >>> livelock during an overload is only > applicable to one scenario, > >>> where the 2 interfaces in the router are > the same capacity. > >>> As in ethernet-to-ethernet routers. Most > certainly not > >>> Ethernet-to-serial routers, like what most > routers are > >>> that aren't on DSL lines. > >>> > >>> If you have a different understanding then > please explain. > >>> > >>>>> > >>>>> I've read those datasheets as well and > the > >>>>> thing I > >>>>> don't understand is that if you are > pumping > >>>>> 100Mbt > >>>>> into an Etherexpress Pro/100 then if the > card > >>>>> will > >>>>> not interrupt more than this throttled > rate you > >>>>> keep > >>>>> talking about, then the card's interrupt > >>>>> throttling > >>>>> is going to limit the inbound bandwidth > to > >>>>> below > >>>>> 100Mbt. > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> Wrong again, Ted. It scares me that you > consider > >>>> yourself knowlegable about this. You can > process > >>>> # interrupts X ring_size packets; not one > per > >>>> interrupt. You're only polling 1000x per > second > >>>> (or whatever you have hz set to), so why > do you > >>>> think that you have to interrupt for every > packet > >>>> to do 100Mb/s? > >>> > >>> > >>> I never said anything about interrupting > for every > >>> packet, did I? Of course not since I know > what > >>> your talking about. However, it is you who > are throwing > >>> around the numbers - or were in your prior > post - > >>> regarding the fxp driver and hardware. Why > should > >>> I have to do the work digging around in the > datasheets > >>> and doing the math? > >>> > >>> Since you seem to be wanting to argue this > from a > >>> theory standpoint, then your only option is > to === message truncated === Unfortunately your "test" is not controlled, which is pretty typical of most OS testers. Firstly, "efficiency" is the goal. How many packets you can pump through a socket interface is not an efficiency measurement. What was the load on the machine during your test? how many polls per second were being used? What was the interrupt rate for the non-polling test? You can't control the test, because iperf is a crappy test. You're not trying to measure how much tcp traffic you can push. There are way too many variables. For example, an ethernet card that iperf might test slower may use 1/2 the cpu of another, which makes it a much better card. As the load increased, the # of polls/second will increase. So unless you know what you're testing, your test results will be wrong. Its too bad you're wasting so much time testing things that should be obivious if you understood how they worked. It does make it easier to make money in the world, but its not doing the project any good. dt __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Dec 16 15:45:50 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2A49916A41F for ; Fri, 16 Dec 2005 15:45:50 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from FreeBSD@keyslapper.net) Received: from russian-caravan.cloud9.net (russian-caravan.cloud9.net [168.100.1.4]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AA58743D5A for ; Fri, 16 Dec 2005 15:45:48 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from FreeBSD@keyslapper.net) Received: from russian-caravan.cloud9.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by russian-caravan.cloud9.net (Postfix) with SMTP id 8AE3017B74; Fri, 16 Dec 2005 10:45:43 -0500 (EST) Received: from keyslapper.net (250-119.customer.cloud9.net [168.100.250.119]) by russian-caravan.cloud9.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0F92717B68; Fri, 16 Dec 2005 10:45:42 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by keyslapper.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B318611712; Fri, 16 Dec 2005 10:41:15 -0500 (EST) Received: from keyslapper.net ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (keyslapper.net [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 00980-02; Fri, 16 Dec 2005 10:41:15 -0500 (EST) Received: from www.keyslapper.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by keyslapper.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 65908114EE; Fri, 16 Dec 2005 10:41:15 -0500 (EST) Received: from 38.112.155.126 (SquirrelMail authenticated user leblanc) by www.keyslapper.net with HTTP; Fri, 16 Dec 2005 10:41:15 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <9061.38.112.155.126.1134747675.squirrel@www.keyslapper.net> In-Reply-To: <43A2DE53.7080207@wmptl.com> References: <979f20140512160709n3530c01dmdad5714f8e30bc00@mail.gmail.com> <43A2DE53.7080207@wmptl.com> Date: Fri, 16 Dec 2005 10:41:15 -0500 (EST) From: "Louis J. LeBlanc" To: "Nathan Vidican" User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.5 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at keyslapper.net Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-AntiVirus: Checked by Vexira Antivirus v1.5 Cc: David Miao , questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: C++ compile error X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 16 Dec 2005 15:45:50 -0000 On Fri, December 16, 2005 10:33 am, Nathan Vidican wrote: > David Miao wrote: >> Dear list, >> >> I try to compile a hello world C++ program in FreeBSD 6.0, but get an >> error as below: >> >> [dm@ORION ~/cpp]% CC -o hello hello.C >> hello.C: In function `int main()': >> hello.C:5: error: `cout' undeclared (first use this function) >> hello.C:5: error: (Each undeclared identifier is reported only once >> for each function it appears in.) >> hello.C:5: error: `endl' undeclared (first use this function) >> >> I noticed that "iostream" file is located in >> "/usr/include/c++/3.4/iostream", I guess my CC compiler cannot find >> this head file. Is it true? And how can I fix this problem? Your >> advice is appreciated. Thanks in advance. >> >> =3D=3Dquote of hello world code=3D=3D >> #include >> >> int main() >> { >> cout << "Hello World!" << endl; >> >> return 0; >> } >> =3D=3D end of quote=3D=3D >> >> Regards, >> David >> _______________________________________________ >> freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list >> http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions >> To unsubscribe, send any mail to >> "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" >> >> >> > > Also, noticed your code is flawed, you never used a namespace, nor > explicitly stated one. cout is part of the 'std' namespace, so either > ' using namespace std;' for global/local use of namespace, OR do > 'std::cout <<' instead. Try the hello.cpp I sent you in the last email, > that one should work for ya :) I'm not nearly as adept with C++ as I am with C, Perl, and a few other geek tools, but doesn't C++ default to the std namespace if none is specified? Perhaps this is a compiler specific behavior? Just curious. Lou --=20 Louis LeBlanc FreeBSD@keyslapper.net Fully Funded Hobbyist, KeySlapper Extrordinaire :=FE http://www.keyslapper.net =D4=BF=D4=AC From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Dec 16 15:57:24 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3E62516A41F for ; Fri, 16 Dec 2005 15:57:24 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from wojtek@tensor.3miasto.net) Received: from chylonia.3miasto.net (chylonia.3miasto.net [213.192.74.6]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1B27A43D5A for ; Fri, 16 Dec 2005 15:57:05 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from wojtek@tensor.3miasto.net) Received: from chylonia.3miasto.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by chylonia.3miasto.net (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id jBGFukCN005546; Fri, 16 Dec 2005 16:56:46 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wojtek@tensor.3miasto.net) Received: from localhost (wojtek@localhost) by chylonia.3miasto.net (8.13.4/8.13.4/Submit) with ESMTP id jBGFuhxv005543; Fri, 16 Dec 2005 16:56:46 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wojtek@tensor.3miasto.net) X-Authentication-Warning: chylonia.3miasto.net: wojtek owned process doing -bs Date: Fri, 16 Dec 2005 16:56:43 +0100 (CET) From: Wojciech Puchar X-X-Sender: wojtek@chylonia.3miasto.net To: Marc Dufresne In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20051216165551.E3117@chylonia.3miasto.net> References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: SA-LEARN Keeps crashing at DBM.pm Line 624 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 16 Dec 2005 15:57:24 -0000 > Since my installation of MailScanner I have always been able to use > sa-learn --spam --force-expire --mbox /var/mail/spammail with no > issues. > > Over the last couple of days, when I try to run sa-learn against my > spam mailbox, I receive the following error: > > sa-learn --spam --force-expire --mbox /var/mail/spammail > bayes: expire_old_tokens: Out of memory during ridiculously large > request at > /usr/local/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.8.7/Mail/SpamAssassin/BayesStore/DBM.pm > line 624. > uname -a - how much memory it allows? anyway - something is wrong in spamassassin so it needs so much memory - and that's question for spamassassin authors. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Dec 16 16:13:07 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 01AFF16A41F for ; Fri, 16 Dec 2005 16:13:07 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from davmiao@gmail.com) Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.196]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0EC1643D58 for ; Fri, 16 Dec 2005 16:13:05 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from davmiao@gmail.com) Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 16so746405nzp for ; Fri, 16 Dec 2005 08:13:05 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=TQqVpVVbV7W+Ddl4KwIPlMKD3K5p3AC4aqkiBKsa5FaUOCJRLCNt7/AOtF4CyI4yzNsyKnXYSbyk8YTrT6l8gSCTzh1DHJYKcpfiqoX0GQpOys1aqtaRpi21sHUGgUzBywbQVCPbgp5Sx+n0T0Rrl7duspnkrJplD+hnMyvCbpo= Received: by 10.65.116.16 with SMTP id t16mr2178552qbm; Fri, 16 Dec 2005 08:13:05 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.65.51.14 with HTTP; Fri, 16 Dec 2005 08:13:05 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <979f20140512160813i5394e789u1d7624a625e893f@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sat, 17 Dec 2005 00:13:05 +0800 From: David Miao To: Nathan Vidican In-Reply-To: <43A2DE53.7080207@wmptl.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline References: <979f20140512160709n3530c01dmdad5714f8e30bc00@mail.gmail.com> <43A2DE53.7080207@wmptl.com> Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: C++ compile error X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 16 Dec 2005 16:13:07 -0000 On 12/16/05, Nathan Vidican wrote: > David Miao wrote: > > Dear list, > > > > I try to compile a hello world C++ program in FreeBSD 6.0, but get an > > error as below: > > > > [dm@ORION ~/cpp]% CC -o hello hello.C > > hello.C: In function `int main()': > > hello.C:5: error: `cout' undeclared (first use this function) > > hello.C:5: error: (Each undeclared identifier is reported only once > > for each function it appears in.) > > hello.C:5: error: `endl' undeclared (first use this function) > > > > I noticed that "iostream" file is located in > > "/usr/include/c++/3.4/iostream", I guess my CC compiler cannot find > > this head file. Is it true? And how can I fix this problem? Your > > advice is appreciated. Thanks in advance. > > > > =3D=3Dquote of hello world code=3D=3D > > #include > > > > int main() > > { > > cout << "Hello World!" << endl; > > > > return 0; > > } > > =3D=3D end of quote=3D=3D > > > > Regards, > > David > > _______________________________________________ > > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd= .org" > > > > > > > > Also, noticed your code is flawed, you never used a namespace, nor explic= itly > stated one. cout is part of the 'std' namespace, so either ' using namesp= ace > std;' for global/local use of namespace, OR do 'std::cout <<' instead. Tr= y the > hello.cpp I sent you in the last email, that one should work for ya :) > > -- > Nathan Vidican > nvidican@wmptl.com > Windsor Match Plate & Tool Ltd. > http://www.wmptl.com/ > Nathan, I'm learning c++ programming language by using "The complete c++ training course - second edition" (Harvey Deitel & Paul Deitel), hello world is the first program in this book. I'm totally puzzled by this complex language when I compile my first program. Is this book out of date? This post may off topic of FreeBSD, sorry to other people... Regards, David From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Dec 16 16:15:49 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2EB3C16A41F for ; Fri, 16 Dec 2005 16:15:49 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from racerx@makeworld.com) Received: from makeworld.com (makeworld.com [216.201.118.142]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7045E43D5E for ; Fri, 16 Dec 2005 16:15:48 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from racerx@makeworld.com) Received: from localhost (localhost.com [127.0.0.1]) by makeworld.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 901DA62E5; Fri, 16 Dec 2005 10:15:40 -0600 (CST) Received: from makeworld.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (makeworld.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 99752-04; Fri, 16 Dec 2005 10:15:34 -0600 (CST) Received: by makeworld.com (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 42A216208; Fri, 16 Dec 2005 10:15:34 -0600 (CST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by makeworld.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 29B1761EE; Fri, 16 Dec 2005 10:15:34 -0600 (CST) Date: Fri, 16 Dec 2005 10:15:34 -0600 (CST) From: Chris To: Wojciech Puchar In-Reply-To: <20051216165551.E3117@chylonia.3miasto.net> Message-ID: <20051216101507.M103@makeworld.com> References: <20051216165551.E3117@chylonia.3miasto.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new-2.3.3 (20050822) at makeworld.com - FreeBSD:The Power To Serve Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, Marc Dufresne Subject: Re: SA-LEARN Keeps crashing at DBM.pm Line 624 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 16 Dec 2005 16:15:49 -0000 On Fri, 16 Dec 2005, Wojciech Puchar wrote: >> Since my installation of MailScanner I have always been able to use >> sa-learn --spam --force-expire --mbox /var/mail/spammail with no >> issues. >> >> Over the last couple of days, when I try to run sa-learn against my >> spam mailbox, I receive the following error: >> >> sa-learn --spam --force-expire --mbox /var/mail/spammail >> bayes: expire_old_tokens: Out of memory during ridiculously large >> request at >> /usr/local/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.8.7/Mail/SpamAssassin/BayesStore/DBM.pm >> line 624. >> > > uname -a - how much memory it allows? > > anyway - something is wrong in spamassassin so it needs so much memory - and > that's question for spamassassin authors. > Is this an assumption or fact? If fact, please point us to the data. Best regards, Chris Never create a problem for which you do not have the answer. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Dec 16 16:18:31 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A4FF016A41F for ; Fri, 16 Dec 2005 16:18:31 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from apircalabu@bitdefender.com) Received: from mail.bitdefender.com (ns.bitdefender.com [217.156.83.1]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E577C43D49 for ; Fri, 16 Dec 2005 16:18:29 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from apircalabu@bitdefender.com) Received: (qmail 27698 invoked by uid 1010); 16 Dec 2005 18:18:25 +0200 Received: from apircalabu.dsd.ro (10.10.15.22) by mail.bitdefender.com with AES256-SHA encrypted SMTP; 16 Dec 2005 18:18:25 +0200 Date: Fri, 16 Dec 2005 18:18:09 +0200 From: Adi Pircalabu To: "Marc Dufresne" Message-ID: <20051216181809.56d31d9d@apircalabu.dsd.ro> In-Reply-To: References: Organization: BitDefender X-Mailer: Sylpheed-Claws 1.9.100 (GTK+ 2.8.9; i386-portbld-freebsd5.4) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BitDefender-SpamStamp: 1.1.4 049000040111AAAAAAE X-BitDefender-Scanner: Clean, Agent: BitDefender Qmail 1.6.2 on mail.bitdefender.com X-BitDefender-Spam: No (0) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: SA-LEARN Keeps crashing at DBM.pm Line 624 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 16 Dec 2005 16:18:31 -0000 On Fri, 16 Dec 2005 08:24:19 -0500 "Marc Dufresne" wrote: > Over the last couple of days, when I try to run sa-learn against my > spam mailbox, I receive the following error: > > sa-learn --spam --force-expire --mbox /var/mail/spammail > bayes: expire_old_tokens: Out of memory during ridiculously large > request at > /usr/local/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.8.7/Mail/SpamAssassin/BayesStore/DBM.pm > line 624. Try to run sa-learn with same arguments on other mbox(es) (e.g. from spamarchive.org). Do you still get the error? -- Adi Pircalabu (PGP Key ID 0x04329F5E) -- This message was scanned for spam and viruses by BitDefender. For more information please visit http://www.bitdefender.com/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Dec 16 16:21:28 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CC92C16A420 for ; Fri, 16 Dec 2005 16:21:28 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: from aiolos.otenet.gr (aiolos.otenet.gr [195.170.0.93]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6D2C043D73 for ; Fri, 16 Dec 2005 16:21:25 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: from flame.pc (aris.bedc.ondsl.gr [62.103.39.226]) by aiolos.otenet.gr (8.13.4/8.13.4/Debian-8) with SMTP id jBGGLEbG011307; Fri, 16 Dec 2005 18:21:17 +0200 Received: by flame.pc (Postfix, from userid 1001) id D6A6E1157A; Fri, 16 Dec 2005 18:20:15 +0200 (EET) Date: Fri, 16 Dec 2005 18:20:15 +0200 From: Giorgos Keramidas To: Jim Pazarena Message-ID: <20051216162015.GB2558@flame.pc> References: <43A26004.3010105@ccstores.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <43A26004.3010105@ccstores.com> Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: atheros wireless setup X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 16 Dec 2005 16:21:28 -0000 On 2005-12-15 22:34, Jim Pazarena wrote: > I can't believe how incredibly easy it was to get > the wireless going in my laptop. > > add: if_ath_load="YES" to /boot/loader.conf > > and: ifconfig_ath0="dhcp" to /etc/rc.conf > > and it "works" ! > > please tell me where I can read up on how to "control" the wireless > link. Such as how to enter the "SSID", and connect speed etc. I started by reading this Handbook section: http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/network-wireless.html One thing that you may want to note, if you are not *ALWAYS* around a known wireless network, is that making changes to /etc/rc.conf may cause the startup process to print harmless, but annoying nevertheless, warnings when ath0 is down. This is especially true if your wireless NIC is not on-board, but a PC-CARD that you sometimes use (like mine). In this case, you can 'override' the /etc/rc.conf settings by making a small shell script like this (almost identical to the one I use to bring up ath0 on my laptop): 1 | export ifconfig_ath0="inet DHCP ssid 'XXXXXX' \ 2 | wepmode on weptxkey 1 wepkey '1:0xXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX'" 3 | 4 | /etc/rc.d/netif stop # Stop all other interfaces. 5 | /etc/rc.d/netif start ath0 # Bring up ath0. 6 | if test $? -eq 0 ; then 7 | echo >&2 "ath0: ERROR: Could not bring up interface." 8 | exit 1 9 | fi 10 | 11 | echo -n "Waiting for ath0 to associate " 12 | _timeout=0 13 | _associated=NO 14 | while [ "$_timeout" -lt 30 ]; do 15 | status=$( ifconfig ath0 2>&1 | grep status: |\ 16 | awk '{print $2}' ) 17 | if [ X"${status}" = X"associated" ]; then 18 | _associated=YES 19 | break 20 | fi 21 | echo -n '.' 22 | sleep 1 23 | _timeout=$(( $_timeout + 1 )) 24 | done 25 | if [ X"${_associated}" = X"YES" ]; then 26 | echo " ok" 27 | else 28 | echo '' 29 | echo >&2 "ath0: ERROR: Timed out while waiting to associate." 30 | /etc/rc.d/netif stop ath0 31 | exit 1 32 | fi By setting ifconfig_ath0 in the script itself (see lines 1-2), you don't have to modify `/etc/rc.conf'. The /etc/rc.d/netif script will be happy by simply finding the appropriate stuff in its running environment :-) I hope this helps, - Giorgos From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Dec 16 17:01:48 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DF31716A41F for ; Fri, 16 Dec 2005 17:01:47 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: from aiolos.otenet.gr (aiolos.otenet.gr [195.170.0.93]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7B16043D46 for ; Fri, 16 Dec 2005 17:01:46 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: from flame.pc (aris.bedc.ondsl.gr [62.103.39.226]) by aiolos.otenet.gr (8.13.4/8.13.4/Debian-8) with SMTP id jBGH1iGF028975; Fri, 16 Dec 2005 19:01:44 +0200 Received: by flame.pc (Postfix, from userid 1001) id E0A7111457; Fri, 16 Dec 2005 19:00:46 +0200 (EET) Date: Fri, 16 Dec 2005 19:00:46 +0200 From: Giorgos Keramidas To: David Miao , Nathan Vidican Message-ID: <20051216170046.GB2712@flame.pc> References: <43A2DE53.7080207@wmptl.com> <979f20140512160813i5394e789u1d7624a625e893f@mail.gmail.com> <979f20140512160709n3530c01dmdad5714f8e30bc00@mail.gmail.com> <43A2DE53.7080207@wmptl.com> <9061.38.112.155.126.1134747675.squirrel@www.keyslapper.net> <979f20140512160709n3530c01dmdad5714f8e30bc00@mail.gmail.com> <43A2DE53.7080207@wmptl.com> <979f20140512160709n3530c01dmdad5714f8e30bc00@mail.gmail.com> <43A2DDCF.1030708@wmptl.com> <979f20140512160709n3530c01dmdad5714f8e30bc00@mail.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <979f20140512160813i5394e789u1d7624a625e893f@mail.gmail.com> <9061.38.112.155.126.1134747675.squirrel@www.keyslapper.net> <43A2DE53.7080207@wmptl.com> <43A2DDCF.1030708@wmptl.com> <979f20140512160709n3530c01dmdad5714f8e30bc00@mail.gmail.com> Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: C++ compile error X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 16 Dec 2005 17:01:48 -0000 On 2005-12-16 23:09, David Miao wrote: > Dear list, > > I try to compile a hello world C++ program in FreeBSD 6.0, but get an > error as below: > > [dm@ORION ~/cpp]% CC -o hello hello.C > hello.C: In function `int main()': > hello.C:5: error: `cout' undeclared (first use this function) > hello.C:5: error: (Each undeclared identifier is reported only once > for each function it appears in.) > hello.C:5: error: `endl' undeclared (first use this function) > ==quote of hello world code== > #include > > int main() > { > cout << "Hello World!" << endl; > > return 0; > } > == end of quote== You have to add a line like this: using namespace std; at the toplevel of your sources. The example then works: keramida@flame[18:51]/tmp$ CC hello.C keramida@flame[18:52]/tmp$ ./a.out Hello World! keramida@flame[18:52]/tmp$ diff -u hello.C.orig hello.C --- hello.C.orig Fri Dec 16 18:51:26 2005 +++ hello.C Fri Dec 16 18:51:58 2005 @@ -1,5 +1,7 @@ #include +using namespace std; + int main() { cout << "Hello World!" << endl; keramida@flame[18:52]/tmp$ On 2005-12-16 10:31, Nathan Vidican wrote: > gcc assumes a '.C' file is ANSI C, not C++, try: > mv hello.C hello.cpp && gcc -o hello.exe hello.cpp Not really. But it's a very good idea to use something that doesn't only differ in the case of the name from plain ANCI C, because transferring the files from Unix to other operating systems (i.e. Windows) may lose the case of the names some times :-) On 2005-12-16 10:41, "Louis J. LeBlanc" wrote: > I'm not nearly as adept with C++ as I am with C, Perl, and a few other > geek tools, but doesn't C++ default to the std namespace if none is > specified? It doesn't :-( On 2005-12-17 00:13, David Miao wrote: > Nathan, > > I'm learning c++ programming language by using "The complete c++ > training course - second edition" (Harvey Deitel & Paul Deitel), hello > world is the first program in this book. I'm totally puzzled by this > complex language when I compile my first program. Is this book out of > date? That's a pretty old book. Judging from the sheer number of books these authors have listed in Amazon, I think it's pretty safe to consider it very out of date :( > This post may off topic of FreeBSD, sorry to other people... That's ok. The list is, after all, "for general FreeBSD questions" :) From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Dec 16 17:02:01 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: FreeBSD-questions@FreeBSD.org Delivered-To: FreeBSD-questions@FreeBSD.org Received: by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix, from userid 645) id 4055616A427; Fri, 16 Dec 2005 17:02:01 +0000 (GMT) To: FreeBSD-questions@FreeBSD.org Message-Id: <20051216170201.4055616A427@hub.freebsd.org> Date: Fri, 16 Dec 2005 17:02:01 +0000 (GMT) From: grog@FreeBSD.ORG (Greg Lehey) Cc: Subject: How to get best results from FreeBSD-questions X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 16 Dec 2005 17:02:01 -0000 How to get the best results from FreeBSD questions. =================================================== Last update $Date: 2005/08/10 02:21:44 $ This is a regular posting to the FreeBSD questions mailing list. If you got it in answer to a message you sent, it means that the sender thinks that at least one of the following things was wrong with your message: - You left out a subject line, or the subject line was not appropriate. - You formatted it in such a way that it was difficult to read. - You asked more than one unrelated question in one message. - You sent out a message with an incorrect date, time or time zone. - You sent out the same message more than once. - You sent an 'unsubscribe' message to FreeBSD-questions. If you have done any of these things, there is a good chance that you will get more than one copy of this message from different people. Read on, and your next message will be more successful. This document is also available on the web at http://www.lemis.com/questions.html. ===================================================================== Contents: I: Introduction II: How to unsubscribe from FreeBSD-questions III: Should I ask -questions or -hackers? IV: How to submit a question to FreeBSD-questions V: How to answer a question to FreeBSD-questions I: Introduction =============== This is a regular posting aimed to help both those seeking advice from FreeBSD-questions (the "newcomers"), and also those who answer the questions (the "hackers"). Note that the term "hacker" has nothing to do with breaking into other people's computers. The correct term for the latter activity is "cracker", but the popular press hasn't found out yet. The FreeBSD hackers disapprove strongly of cracking security, and have nothing to do with it. In the past, there has been some friction which stems from the different viewpoints of the two groups. The newcomers accused the hackers of being arrogant, stuck-up, and unhelpful, while the hackers accused the newcomers of being stupid, unable to read plain English, and expecting everything to be handed to them on a silver platter. Of course, there's an element of truth in both these claims, but for the most part these viewpoints come from a sense of frustration. In this document, I'd like to do something to relieve this frustration and help everybody get better results from FreeBSD-questions. In the following section, I recommend how to submit a question; after that, we'll look at how to answer one. II: How to unsubscribe from FreeBSD-questions ============================================== When you subscribed to FreeBSD-questions, you got a welcome message from freebsd-questions-request@FreeBSD.ORG. In this message, amongst other things, it told you how to unsubscribe. Here's a typical message: Welcome to the freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list! If you ever want to unsubscribe or change your options (eg, switch to or from digest mode, change your password, etc.), visit your subscription page at: http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/options/freebsd-questions/me@me.org (obviously, substitute your mail address for "me@me.org"). You can also make such adjustments via email by sending a message to: freebsd-questions-request@freebsd.org with the word 'help' in the subject or body (don't include the quotes), and you will get back a message with instructions. You must know your password to change your options (including changing the password, itself) or to unsubscribe. Normally, Mailman will remind you of your freebsd.org mailing list passwords once every month, although you can disable this if you prefer. This reminder will also include instructions on how to unsubscribe or change your account options. There is also a button on your options page that will email your current password to you. Here's the general information for the list you've subscribed to, in case you don't already have it: FREEBSD-QUESTIONS User questions This is the mailing list for questions about FreeBSD. You should not send "how to" questions to the technical lists unless you consider the question to be pretty technical. Normally, unsubscribing is even simpler than the message suggests: you don't need to specify your mail ID unless it is different from the one which you specified when you subscribed. If Majordomo replies and tells you (incorrectly) that you're not on the list, this may mean one of two things: 1. You have changed your mail ID since you subscribed. That's where keeping the original message from majordomo comes in handy. For example, the sample message above shows my mail ID as grog@lemis.de. Since then, I have changed it to grog@lemis.com. If I were to try to remove grog@lemis.com from the list, it would fail: I would have to specify the name with which I joined. 2. You're subscribed to a mailing list which is subscribed to FreeBSD-questions. If that's the case, you'll have to figure out which one it is and get your name taken off that one. If you're not sure which one it might be, check the headers of the messages you receive from freebsd-questions: maybe there's a clue there. If you've done all this, and you still can't figure out what's going on, send a message to Postmaster@FreeBSD.org, and he will sort things out for you. Don't send a message to FreeBSD-questions: they can't help you. III: Should I ask -questions or -hackers? ========================================= Two mailing lists handle general questions about FreeBSD, FreeBSD-questions and FreeBSD-hackers. In some cases, it's not really clear which group you should ask. The following criteria should help for 99% of all questions, however: If the question is of a general nature, first check whether this isn't a Frequently Asked Question (FAQ). There's a list of these questions at http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/faq/index.html, and also on your own system (once you've installed it) at /usr/share/doc/en/books/faq/index.html. Check there, and if you don't find an answer, ask FreeBSD-questions. Examples might be questions about installing FreeBSD or the use of a particular UNIX utility. If you think the question relates to a bug, but you're not sure, or you don't know how to look for it, send the message to FreeBSD-questions. If the question relates to a bug, and you're almost sure that it's a bug (for example, you can pinpoint the place in the code where it happens, and you maybe have a fix), then send the message to FreeBSD-hackers. You should also enter a problem report with the send-pr utility. If the question relates to enhancements to FreeBSD, and you can make suggestions about how to implement them, then send the message to FreeBSD-hackers. If the question is of particularly technical nature, such as implementation details or suggestions for improvements, then send the message to FreeBSD-hackers. There are also a number of other specialized mailing lists, for example FreeBSD-isp, which caters to the interests of ISPs (Internet Service Providers) who run FreeBSD. If you happen to be an ISP, this doesn't mean you should automatically send your questions to FreeBSD-isp. The criteria above still apply, and it's in your interest to stick to them, since you're more likely to get good results that way. IV: How to submit a question ============================= When submitting a question to FreeBSD-questions, consider the following points: 1. Remember that nobody gets paid for answering a FreeBSD question. They do it of their own free will. You can influence this free will positively by submitting a well-formulated question supplying as much relevant information as possible. You can influence this free will negatively by submitting an incomplete, illegible, or rude question. It's perfectly possible to send a message to FreeBSD-questions and not get an answer even if you follow these rules. It's much more possible to not get an answer if you don't. In the rest of this document, we'll look at how to get the most out of your question to FreeBSD-questions. 2. Not everybody who answers FreeBSD questions reads every message: they look at the subject line and decide whether it interests them. Clearly, it's in your interest to specify a subject. ``FreeBSD problem'' or ``Help'' aren't enough. If you provide no subject at all, many people won't bother reading it. If your subject isn't specific enough, the people who can answer it may not read it. 3. When sending a new message, well, send a new message. Don't reply to some other message, erase the old content and change the subject line. That leaves an In-reply-to: header which many mail readers use to thread messages, so your message shows up as a reply to some other message. People often delete messages a whole thread at a time, so apart from irritating people, you also run a chance of having the message deleted unread. 4. Format your message so that it is legible, and PLEASE DON'T SHOUT!!!!!. We appreciate that a lot of people don't speak English as their first language, and we try to make allowances for that, but it's really painful to try to read a message written full of typos or without any line breaks. A lot of badly formatted messages come from bad mailers or badly configured mailers. The following mailers are known to send out badly formatted messages without you finding out about them: Eudora exmh Microsoft Exchange Microsoft Internet Mail Microsoft Outlook Netscape As you can see, the mailers in the Microsoft world are frequent offenders. If at all possible, use a UNIX mailer. If you must use a mailer under Microsoft environments, make sure it is set up correctly. Try not to use MIME: a lot of people use mailers which don't get on very well with MIME. For further information on this subject, check out http://www.lemis.com/email.html. 5. Make sure your time and time zone are set correctly. This may seem a little silly, since your message still gets there, but many of the people you are trying to reach get several hundred messages a day. They frequently sort the incoming messages by subject and by date, and if your message doesn't come before the first answer, they may assume they missed it and not bother to look. 6. Don't include unrelated questions in the same message. Firstly, a long message tends to scare people off, and secondly, it's more difficult to get all the people who can answer all the questions to read the message. 7. Specify as much information as possible. This is a difficult area, and we need to expand on what information you need to submit, but here's a start: If you get error messages, don't say ``I get error messages'', say (for example) ``I get the error message 'No route to host'''. If your system panics, don't say ``My system panicked'', say (for example) ``my system panicked with the message 'free vnode isn't'''. If you have difficulty installing FreeBSD, please tell us what hardware you have. In particular, it's important to know the IRQs and I/O addresses of the boards installed in your machine. If you have difficulty getting PPP to run, describe the configuration. Which version of PPP do you use? What kind of authentication do you have? Do you have a static or dynamic IP address? What kind of messages do you get in the log file? 8. If you don't get an answer immediately, or if you don't even see your own message appear on the list immediately, don't resend the message. Wait at least 24 hours. The FreeBSD mailer offloads messages to a number of subordinate mailers around the world, and sometimes it can take several hours for the mail to get through. And once it gets through, the one person who might know the answer will probably just have gone to bed in his part of the world. 9. If you do all this, and you still don't get an answer, there could be other reasons. For example, the problem is so complicated that nobody knows the answer, or the person who does know the answer was offline. If you don't get an answer after, say, a week, it might help to re-send the message. If you don't get an answer to your second message, though, you're probably not going to get one from this forum. Resending the same message again and again will only make you unpopular. To summarize, let's assume you know the answer to the following question (yes, it's the same one in each case :-). You choose which of these two questions you would be more prepared to answer: Message 1: Subject: (none) I just can't get hits damn silly FereBSD system to workd, and Im really good at this tsuff, but I have never seen anythign sho difficult to install, it jst wont work whatever I try so why don't y9ou guys tell me what I doing wrong. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message 2: Subject: Problems installing FreeBSD I've just got the FreeBSD 2.1.5 CD-ROM from Walnut Creek, and I'm having a lot of difficulty installing it. I have a 66 MHz 486 with 16 MB of memory and an Adaptec 1540A SCSI board, a 1.2GB Quantum Fireball disk and a Toshiba 3501XA CD-ROM drive. The installation works just fine, but when I try to reboot the system, I get the message "Missing Operating System". ---------------------------------------------------------------------- V: How to follow up to a question ================================= Often you will want to send in additional information to a question you have already sent. The best way to do this is to reply to your original message. This has three advantages: 1. You include the original message text, so people will know what you're talking about. Don't forget to trim unnecessary text out, though. 2. The text in the subject line stays the same (you did remember to put one in, didn't you?). Many mailers will sort messages by subject. This helps group messages together. 3. The message reference numbers in the header will refer to the previous message. Some mailers, such as mutt, can thread messages, showing the exact relationships between the messages. VI: How to answer a question ============================ Before you answer a question to FreeBSD-questions, consider: 1. A lot of the points on submitting questions also apply to answering questions. Read them. 2. Has somebody already answered the question? The easiest way to check this is to sort your incoming mail by subject: then (hopefully) you'll see the question followed by any answers, all together. If somebody has already answered it, it doesn't automatically mean that you shouldn't send another answer. But it makes sense to read all the other answers first. 3. Do you have something to contribute beyond what has already been said? In general, "Yeah, me too" answers don't help much, although there are exceptions, like when somebody is describing a problem he's having, and he doesn't know whether it's his fault or whether there's something wrong with the hardware or software. If you do send a "me too" answer, you should also include any further relevant information. 4. Are you sure you understand the question? Very frequently, the person who asks the question is confused or doesn't express himself very well. Even with the best understanding of the system, it's easy to send a reply which doesn't answer the question. This doesn't help: you'll leave the person who submitted the question more frustrated or confused than ever. If nobody else answers, and you're not too sure either, you can always ask for more information. 5. Are you sure your answer is correct? If not, wait a day or so. If nobody else comes up with a better answer, you can still reply and say, for example, "I don't know if this is correct, but since nobody else has replied, why don't you try replacing your ATAPI CD-ROM with a frog?". 6. Unless there's a good reason to do otherwise, reply to the sender and to FreeBSD-questions. Many people on the FreeBSD-questions are "lurkers": they learn by reading messages sent and replied to by others. If you take a message which is of general interest off the list, you're depriving these people of their information. Be careful with group replies; lots of people send messages with hundreds of CCs. If this is the case, be sure to trim the Cc: lines appropriately. 7. Include relevant text from the original message. Trim it to the minimum, but don't overdo it. It should still be possible for somebody who didn't read the original message to understand what you're talking about. 8. Use some technique to identify which text came from the original message, and which text you add. I personally find that prepending ``> '' to the original message works best. Leaving white space after the ``> '' and leave empty lines between your text and the original text both make the result more readable. 9. Put your response in the correct place (after the text to which it replies). It's very difficult to read a thread of responses where each reply comes before the text to which it replies. 10. Most mailers change the subject line on a reply by prepending a text such as ``Re: ''. If your mailer doesn't do it automatically, you should do it manually. 11. If the submitter didn't abide by format conventions (lines too long, inappropriate subject line), please fix it. In the case of an incorrect subject line (such as ``HELP!!??''), change the subject line to (say) ``Re: Difficulties with sync PPP (was: HELP!!??)''. That way other people trying to follow the thread will have less difficulty following it. In such cases, it's appropriate to say what you did and why you did it, but try not to be rude. If you find you can't answer without being rude, don't answer. If you just want to reply to a message because of its bad format, just reply to the submitter, not to the list. You can just send him this message in reply, if you like. $Id: Howto-ask-questions,v 1.6 2005/08/10 02:21:44 grog Exp $ _______________________________________________ Thanks to Josh Paetzel for updating this document to describe mailman. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Dec 16 17:02:01 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: FreeBSD-questions@FreeBSD.org Delivered-To: FreeBSD-questions@FreeBSD.org Received: by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix, from userid 645) id 4494A16A426; Fri, 16 Dec 2005 17:02:01 +0000 (GMT) To: FreeBSD-questions@FreeBSD.org Message-Id: <20051216170201.4494A16A426@hub.freebsd.org> Date: Fri, 16 Dec 2005 17:02:01 +0000 (GMT) From: grog@FreeBSD.ORG (Greg Lehey) Cc: Subject: "The Complete FreeBSD": errata and addenda X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 16 Dec 2005 17:02:01 -0000 The trouble with books is that you can't update them the way you can a web page or any other online documentation. The result is that most leading edge computer books are out of date almost before they are printed. Unfortunately, The Complete FreeBSD, published by O'Reilly, is no exception. Inevitably, a number of bugs and changes have surfaced. "The Complete FreeBSD" has been through a total of five editions, including its predecessor "Installing and Running FreeBSD". Two of these have been reprinted with corrections. I maintain a series of errata pages. Start at http://www.lemis.com/errata-4.html to find out how to get the errata information. Have you found a problem with the book, or maybe something confusing? Please let me know: I'm constantly updating it. Greg From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Dec 16 17:22:47 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 35EE916A41F for ; Fri, 16 Dec 2005 17:22:47 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from josh@endries.org) Received: from www.endries.org (www.endries.org [216.230.164.2]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C58FC43D53 for ; Fri, 16 Dec 2005 17:22:45 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from josh@endries.org) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by www.endries.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A59C0F7A7C for ; Fri, 16 Dec 2005 12:22:43 -0500 (EST) Received: from www.endries.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (www.endries.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10025) with LMTP id 18087-01 for ; Fri, 16 Dec 2005 12:22:35 -0500 (EST) Received: from [192.168.0.166] (host-64-246-146-151.ubr0.alb1.inoc.net [64.246.146.151]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by www.endries.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 485F9F7A73 for ; Fri, 16 Dec 2005 12:22:35 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <43A2F7CE.2010603@endries.org> Date: Fri, 16 Dec 2005 12:22:22 -0500 From: Josh Endries User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.2 (X11/20050405) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Enigmail-Version: 0.91.0.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at endries.org Subject: Adding lines to /etc/rc.conf during sysinstall wihout being "REMOVED" X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 16 Dec 2005 17:22:47 -0000 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Does anyone know the correct way to add lines to rc.conf without sysinstall commenting them out and prepending "REMOVED" to them, during an automated install.cfg routine? Currently I have a pkg I made that adds stuff like ntp.conf and rc.conf, but all the lines in my custom rc.conf are removed after the script finishes. I looked through the code for sysinstall but didn't see any way to disable this behavior (my C isn't very good). What would be the correct way to do this? I'm now having my pkg install a rc.d script which cat's >> /etc/rc.conf... Thanks, Josh -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.2 (FreeBSD) Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFDovfOV/+PyAj2L+IRAjzcAJ4lJm+8vIP3QLy/DmuxTB0b4APp1gCfbhI1 waoWrsCORg3CiQMVToAFEaI= =RlT3 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Dec 16 17:24:54 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 08B3416A41F; Fri, 16 Dec 2005 17:24:54 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from hde@daden.net) Received: from mail.ruder.net (216-166-252-178.dsl.peknil.grics.net [216.166.252.178]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 58F7B43D72; Fri, 16 Dec 2005 17:24:46 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from hde@daden.net) Received: from 12.203.202.40 ([12.203.202.40]) by mail.ruder.net ([192.168.10.10]) with Microsoft Exchange Server HTTP-DAV ; Fri, 16 Dec 2005 17:24:40 +0000 Received: from devilBSD.freeBSD by mail.daden.net; 16 Dec 2005 11:24:40 -0600 From: "Harley D. Eades III" To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org In-Reply-To: <9061.38.112.155.126.1134747675.squirrel@www.keyslapper.net> References: <979f20140512160709n3530c01dmdad5714f8e30bc00@mail.gmail.com> <43A2DE53.7080207@wmptl.com> <9061.38.112.155.126.1134747675.squirrel@www.keyslapper.net> Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Date: Fri, 16 Dec 2005 11:24:40 -0600 Message-Id: <1134753880.34653.48.camel@devilBSD.freeBSD> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.2.1.1 FreeBSD GNOME Team Port Cc: David Miao , questions@freebsd.org, Nathan Vidican Subject: Re: C++ compile error X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 16 Dec 2005 17:24:54 -0000 On Fri, 2005-12-16 at 10:41 -0500, Louis J. LeBlanc wrote: > On Fri, December 16, 2005 10:33 am, Nathan Vidican wrote: > > David Miao wrote: > >> Dear list, > >> > >> I try to compile a hello world C++ program in FreeBSD 6.0, but get an > >> error as below: > >> > >> [dm@ORION ~/cpp]% CC -o hello hello.C > >> hello.C: In function `int main()': > >> hello.C:5: error: `cout' undeclared (first use this function) > >> hello.C:5: error: (Each undeclared identifier is reported only once > >> for each function it appears in.) > >> hello.C:5: error: `endl' undeclared (first use this function) > >> > >> I noticed that "iostream" file is located in > >> "/usr/include/c++/3.4/iostream", I guess my CC compiler cannot find > >> this head file. Is it true? And how can I fix this problem? Your > >> advice is appreciated. Thanks in advance. > >> > >> ==quote of hello world code== > >> #include > >> > >> int main() > >> { > >> cout << "Hello World!" << endl; > >> > >> return 0; > >> } > >> == end of quote== > >> > >> Regards, > >> David > >> _______________________________________________ > >> freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > >> http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > >> To unsubscribe, send any mail to > >> "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > >> > >> > >> > > > > Also, noticed your code is flawed, you never used a namespace, nor > > explicitly stated one. cout is part of the 'std' namespace, so either > > ' using namespace std;' for global/local use of namespace, OR do > > 'std::cout <<' instead. Try the hello.cpp I sent you in the last email, > > that one should work for ya :) > > I'm not nearly as adept with C++ as I am with C, Perl, and a few other > geek tools, but doesn't C++ default to the std namespace if none is > specified? > > Perhaps this is a compiler specific behavior? No, you have to either tell the compiler by using "std::METHOD" or say using namespace std; to annouce you are using std as your primary namespace. -- Harley -----BEGIN GEEK CODE BLOCK----- G: GCS-- d- a? C++++ B- E+++ W+++ N++ w--- X+++ b++ G e* r x+ z+++++ ------END GEEK CODE BLOCK------ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Dec 16 17:24:54 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 08B3416A41F; Fri, 16 Dec 2005 17:24:54 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from hde@daden.net) Received: from mail.ruder.net (216-166-252-178.dsl.peknil.grics.net [216.166.252.178]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 58F7B43D72; Fri, 16 Dec 2005 17:24:46 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from hde@daden.net) Received: from 12.203.202.40 ([12.203.202.40]) by mail.ruder.net ([192.168.10.10]) with Microsoft Exchange Server HTTP-DAV ; Fri, 16 Dec 2005 17:24:40 +0000 Received: from devilBSD.freeBSD by mail.daden.net; 16 Dec 2005 11:24:40 -0600 From: "Harley D. Eades III" To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org In-Reply-To: <9061.38.112.155.126.1134747675.squirrel@www.keyslapper.net> References: <979f20140512160709n3530c01dmdad5714f8e30bc00@mail.gmail.com> <43A2DE53.7080207@wmptl.com> <9061.38.112.155.126.1134747675.squirrel@www.keyslapper.net> Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Date: Fri, 16 Dec 2005 11:24:40 -0600 Message-Id: <1134753880.34653.48.camel@devilBSD.freeBSD> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.2.1.1 FreeBSD GNOME Team Port Cc: David Miao , questions@freebsd.org, Nathan Vidican Subject: Re: C++ compile error X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 16 Dec 2005 17:24:54 -0000 On Fri, 2005-12-16 at 10:41 -0500, Louis J. LeBlanc wrote: > On Fri, December 16, 2005 10:33 am, Nathan Vidican wrote: > > David Miao wrote: > >> Dear list, > >> > >> I try to compile a hello world C++ program in FreeBSD 6.0, but get an > >> error as below: > >> > >> [dm@ORION ~/cpp]% CC -o hello hello.C > >> hello.C: In function `int main()': > >> hello.C:5: error: `cout' undeclared (first use this function) > >> hello.C:5: error: (Each undeclared identifier is reported only once > >> for each function it appears in.) > >> hello.C:5: error: `endl' undeclared (first use this function) > >> > >> I noticed that "iostream" file is located in > >> "/usr/include/c++/3.4/iostream", I guess my CC compiler cannot find > >> this head file. Is it true? And how can I fix this problem? Your > >> advice is appreciated. Thanks in advance. > >> > >> ==quote of hello world code== > >> #include > >> > >> int main() > >> { > >> cout << "Hello World!" << endl; > >> > >> return 0; > >> } > >> == end of quote== > >> > >> Regards, > >> David > >> _______________________________________________ > >> freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > >> http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > >> To unsubscribe, send any mail to > >> "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > >> > >> > >> > > > > Also, noticed your code is flawed, you never used a namespace, nor > > explicitly stated one. cout is part of the 'std' namespace, so either > > ' using namespace std;' for global/local use of namespace, OR do > > 'std::cout <<' instead. Try the hello.cpp I sent you in the last email, > > that one should work for ya :) > > I'm not nearly as adept with C++ as I am with C, Perl, and a few other > geek tools, but doesn't C++ default to the std namespace if none is > specified? > > Perhaps this is a compiler specific behavior? No, you have to either tell the compiler by using "std::METHOD" or say using namespace std; to annouce you are using std as your primary namespace. -- Harley -----BEGIN GEEK CODE BLOCK----- G: GCS-- d- a? C++++ B- E+++ W+++ N++ w--- X+++ b++ G e* r x+ z+++++ ------END GEEK CODE BLOCK------ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Dec 16 17:30:48 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8FA6C16A420 for ; Fri, 16 Dec 2005 17:30:48 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from wash@wananchi.com) Received: from ns2.wananchi.com (ns2.wananchi.com [62.8.64.4]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6543A43D49 for ; Fri, 16 Dec 2005 17:30:46 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from wash@wananchi.com) Received: from wash by ns2.wananchi.com with local (Exim 4.60 #0 (FreeBSD 4.11-STABLE)) id 1EnIRx-000BDB-PH by authid ; Fri, 16 Dec 2005 19:28:53 +0300 Date: Fri, 16 Dec 2005 19:28:53 +0300 From: Odhiambo Washington To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20051216162853.GB33413@ns2.wananchi.com> Mail-Followup-To: Odhiambo Washington , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, manish jain References: <20051216152303.46157.qmail@web34006.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20051216152303.46157.qmail@web34006.mail.mud.yahoo.com> X-Disclaimer: Any views expressed in this message, where not explicitly attributed otherwise, are mine alone!. X-Mailer: Mutt 1.5.11 (2005-09-15) X-Designation: Systems Administrator, Wananchi Online Ltd. X-Location: Nairobi, KE, East Africa. User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.11 Cc: manish jain Subject: Re: Newbie problems with svscan and arp X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 16 Dec 2005 17:30:48 -0000 * On 16/12/05 07:23 -0800, manish jain wrote: > Hi, > > I am trying my hand at FreeBSD administration and would greatly appreciate > assistance with some problems I am facing with setting up mail > services and the network properly. > > My system has 2 network cards (rl0 and dc0). rl0 has been assigned a local > IP (192.168.10.37/255.255.255.0) and dc0 has been assigned a real IP > (202.54.195.85/255.255.255.240). The gateway is 202.54.195.81 and the > name server 202.54.1.30. After booting my console starts getting the > following message : "192.168.10.1 is on rl0 but got reply from > dc0". What is the error I might be committing ? The local router is > located at 192.168.10.55, but I don't know where to put this > information. Despite the message, I am able to access the internet > smoothly. The cables connecting to dc0 and rl0 are both connected to the same switch/hub, yes? Why? I think you have a connection to the Internet also connected to the switch, yes? > Further, I am trying to set up qmail as the MTA. Qmail apparantly > needs svscan from the daemontools port to be running. My rc.local > calls /usr/local/bin/svscanboot& at system startup, but when I do > 'ps -waux | grep svscan', I get nothing. A few qmail processes are > however running. How do I get svscan to start ? RTFM for qmail, I guess. I only know about Exim - http://www.exim.org ;) Seriously though, if you look at /usr/local/etc/rc.d/svscan.sh, you'll probably see that you need to add the following to /etc/rc.conf: svscan_enable="YES" If you do that, you need to edit rc.local and remove that svscan entry. It's my guess, sir. > My rc.conf, inetd.conf, hosts and /usr/local/etc/rc.d/svscan.sh files are attached. They did not get attached, as is protocol on most lists. You need to include them in-line in the message body. -Wash http://www.netmeister.org/news/learn2quote.html -- +======================================================================+ |\ _,,,---,,_ | Odhiambo Washington Zzz /,`.-'`' -. ;-;;,_ | Wananchi Online Ltd. www.wananchi.com |,4- ) )-,_. ,\ ( `'-'| Tel: +254 20 313985-9 +254 20 313922 '---''(_/--' `-'\_) | GSM: +254 722 743223 +254 733 744121 +======================================================================+ Goldenstern's Rules: (1) Always hire a rich attorney (2) Never buy from a rich salesman. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Dec 16 17:47:43 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0F4EC16A41F for ; Fri, 16 Dec 2005 17:47:43 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from kstewart@owt.com) Received: from smtp.owt.com (smtp.owt.com [204.118.6.19]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8FF2D43D58 for ; Fri, 16 Dec 2005 17:47:42 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from kstewart@owt.com) Received: from topaz-out (owt-207-41-94-233.owt.com [207.41.94.233]) by smtp.owt.com (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id jBGHlAx4022143; Fri, 16 Dec 2005 09:47:11 -0800 From: Kent Stewart To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Fri, 16 Dec 2005 09:47:32 -0800 User-Agent: KMail/1.8.3 References: <20051216181809.56d31d9d@apircalabu.dsd.ro> In-Reply-To: <20051216181809.56d31d9d@apircalabu.dsd.ro> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200512160947.32739.kstewart@owt.com> Cc: Adi Pircalabu , Marc Dufresne Subject: Re: SA-LEARN Keeps crashing at DBM.pm Line 624 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 16 Dec 2005 17:47:43 -0000 On Friday 16 December 2005 08:18 am, Adi Pircalabu wrote: > On Fri, 16 Dec 2005 08:24:19 -0500 > > "Marc Dufresne" wrote: > > Over the last couple of days, when I try to run sa-learn against my > > spam mailbox, I receive the following error: > > > > sa-learn --spam --force-expire --mbox /var/mail/spammail > > bayes: expire_old_tokens: Out of memory during ridiculously large > > request at > > /usr/local/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.8.7/Mail/SpamAssassin/BayesStore/D > >BM.pm line 624. > > Try to run sa-learn with same arguments on other mbox(es) (e.g. from > spamarchive.org). Do you still get the error? They updated spam assassin yesterday to fix a problem with a missing dependancy for sa-update. I would cvsup and update it. Your problem may be part of the problem. Even if it doesn't help, you need to be using what eveyone is now using. Kent -- Kent Stewart Richland, WA http://users.owt.com/kstewart/index.html From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Dec 16 18:04:59 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0022B16A420 for ; Fri, 16 Dec 2005 18:04:58 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from nvidican@wmptl.com) Received: from wmptl.net (fw1.wmptl.com [216.8.159.129]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B180243D5A for ; Fri, 16 Dec 2005 18:04:57 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from nvidican@wmptl.com) Received: from [10.0.0.104] (r3140ca.wmptl.net [10.0.0.104]) by wmptl.net (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id jBGI4mKS098561; Fri, 16 Dec 2005 13:04:48 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from nvidican@wmptl.com) Message-ID: <43A301BF.5040509@wmptl.com> Date: Fri, 16 Dec 2005 13:04:47 -0500 From: Nathan Vidican User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.6 (X11/20050716) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Giorgos Keramidas References: <43A2DE53.7080207@wmptl.com> <979f20140512160813i5394e789u1d7624a625e893f@mail.gmail.com> <979f20140512160709n3530c01dmdad5714f8e30bc00@mail.gmail.com> <43A2DE53.7080207@wmptl.com> <9061.38.112.155.126.1134747675.squirrel@www.keyslapper.net> <979f20140512160709n3530c01dmdad5714f8e30bc00@mail.gmail.com> <43A2DE53.7080207@wmptl.com> <979f20140512160709n3530c01dmdad5714f8e30bc00@mail.gmail.com> <43A2DDCF.1030708@wmptl.com> <979f20140512160709n3530c01dmdad5714f8e30bc00@mail.gmail.com> <20051216170046.GB2712@flame.pc> In-Reply-To: <20051216170046.GB2712@flame.pc> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Score: 0.111 () RATWR10_MESSID X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.44 Cc: davmiao@gmail.com, questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: C++ compile error X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 16 Dec 2005 18:04:59 -0000 Giorgos Keramidas wrote: > On 2005-12-16 23:09, David Miao wrote: > >>Dear list, >> >>I try to compile a hello world C++ program in FreeBSD 6.0, but get an >>error as below: >> >>[dm@ORION ~/cpp]% CC -o hello hello.C >>hello.C: In function `int main()': >>hello.C:5: error: `cout' undeclared (first use this function) >>hello.C:5: error: (Each undeclared identifier is reported only once >>for each function it appears in.) >>hello.C:5: error: `endl' undeclared (first use this function) > > >>==quote of hello world code== >>#include >> >>int main() >>{ >> cout << "Hello World!" << endl; >> >> return 0; >>} >>== end of quote== > > > You have to add a line like this: > > using namespace std; > > at the toplevel of your sources. The example then works: > > keramida@flame[18:51]/tmp$ CC hello.C > keramida@flame[18:52]/tmp$ ./a.out > Hello World! > keramida@flame[18:52]/tmp$ diff -u hello.C.orig hello.C > --- hello.C.orig Fri Dec 16 18:51:26 2005 > +++ hello.C Fri Dec 16 18:51:58 2005 > @@ -1,5 +1,7 @@ > #include > > +using namespace std; > + > int main() > { > cout << "Hello World!" << endl; > keramida@flame[18:52]/tmp$ > > On 2005-12-16 10:31, Nathan Vidican wrote: > >>gcc assumes a '.C' file is ANSI C, not C++, try: >>mv hello.C hello.cpp && gcc -o hello.exe hello.cpp > > > Not really. But it's a very good idea to use something that doesn't > only differ in the case of the name from plain ANCI C, because > transferring the files from Unix to other operating systems > (i.e. Windows) may lose the case of the names some times :-) > > On 2005-12-16 10:41, "Louis J. LeBlanc" wrote: > >>I'm not nearly as adept with C++ as I am with C, Perl, and a few other >>geek tools, but doesn't C++ default to the std namespace if none is >>specified? > > > It doesn't :-( > > On 2005-12-17 00:13, David Miao wrote: > >>Nathan, >> >>I'm learning c++ programming language by using "The complete c++ >>training course - second edition" (Harvey Deitel & Paul Deitel), hello >>world is the first program in this book. I'm totally puzzled by this >>complex language when I compile my first program. Is this book out of >>date? > > > That's a pretty old book. Judging from the sheer number of books these > authors have listed in Amazon, I think it's pretty safe to consider it > very out of date :( > > >>This post may off topic of FreeBSD, sorry to other people... > > > That's ok. The list is, after all, "for general FreeBSD questions" :) > > > If you want a GOOD book to start self-teaching C++, grab yourself 'C++ in 21 Days' it's a classic, but GREAT starter book. -- Nathan Vidican nvidican@wmptl.com Windsor Match Plate & Tool Ltd. http://www.wmptl.com/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Dec 16 18:13:15 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: FreeBSD-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: FreeBSD-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D178916A420 for ; Fri, 16 Dec 2005 18:13:15 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from bsdmail@gmail.com) Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.200]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 41AC543D67 for ; Fri, 16 Dec 2005 18:13:13 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from bsdmail@gmail.com) Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id i31so681637wra for ; Fri, 16 Dec 2005 10:13:13 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type; b=q2Lflr8R2BFuB5Zr7rYQacxGfB/I2kM8ymkcUCCTkmS+9h8HVrasu79xepQJK/3F1vzK7dgErN2SSGN5QGg28bP/3+T+tzggjrR7TokUXM2dL808iv+nR73wFs0mml85/EmjO8ygoimT5YeB9MbHWKWHZqzVzupUv//IChqX6Io= Received: by 10.65.116.16 with SMTP id t16mr87677qbm; Fri, 16 Dec 2005 10:13:13 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.65.123.6 with HTTP; Fri, 16 Dec 2005 10:13:13 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <8be663db0512161013n10cb8599sdcc0aefbd87c257@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 16 Dec 2005 10:13:13 -0800 From: BSD Mail To: FreeBSD-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: Subject: Closing some open ports X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 16 Dec 2005 18:13:16 -0000 Greetings, I've finished installing a FreeBSD RELENG_6_0 which carries DNS/Apache/DHCP/SAMBA/TFTP Chrooted Bind9 / chrooted DHCP and tftp port is listening on the int_if onl= y thru inetd. Apache is only serving intranet site for docs. I know too many services on one machine, but it's not my call. My problem is with SAMBA and SNMP "for mrtg graph" I want them to bind to specific IPs instead of listening on *:port my sockstat -4l shows: root snmpd 717 6 udp4 *:161 *:* root smbd 709 21 tcp4 *:445 *:* root smbd 709 22 tcp4 *:139 *:* root nmbd 705 6 udp4 *:137 *:* root nmbd 705 7 udp4 *:138 *:* root nmbd 705 8 udp4 10.99.99.254:137 *:* root nmbd 705 9 udp4 10.99.99.254:138 *:* root nmbd 705 10 udp4 10.98.98.254:137 *:* root nmbd 705 11 udp4 10.98.98.254:138 *:* My general practice is always to bind each and every service to a specific IP for containing it. unless it's needed such as DHCP. I looked on samba's website first on how t= o make samba run as non-root unfortuantely looks that is not possible as far as I'm aware of, which is insance. Although I have "hosts allow" and "interfaces" statement in smb.conflistening only on the internal LAN. I can still scan my network with nmap from another network and get this: PORT STATE SERVICE 139/tcp open netbios-ssn 445/tcp open microsoft-ds I can install samba inside a jail(8) but it will be still running as root and the ports will show up. Or I can put some rules in pf.conf to restrict access to whatever I want from outside. But maybe there is another way to do that, I'm all ears. All I want is to get rid of this: root smbd 709 21 tcp4 *:445 *:* root smbd 709 22 tcp4 *:139 *:* root nmbd 705 6 udp4 *:137 *:* root nmbd 705 7 udp4 *:138 *:* I can live with it running as root in my LAN, as long it doesn't show on th= e external interface when port scanning. Thanks in advance, -- BSDMail From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Dec 16 18:29:53 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5693616A436 for ; Fri, 16 Dec 2005 18:29:53 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from norgaard@locolomo.org) Received: from strange.daemonsecurity.com (59.Red-81-33-11.staticIP.rima-tde.net [81.33.11.59]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9623343D82 for ; Fri, 16 Dec 2005 18:29:47 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from norgaard@locolomo.org) Received: from [172.16.2.1] (unknown [172.16.2.1]) by strange.daemonsecurity.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 333E22E041; Fri, 16 Dec 2005 19:29:40 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <43A30792.1040208@locolomo.org> Date: Fri, 16 Dec 2005 19:29:38 +0100 From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Erik_N=F8rgaard?= Organization: Locolomo.ORG User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.6 (X11/20050909) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Josh Endries References: <43A2F7CE.2010603@endries.org> In-Reply-To: <43A2F7CE.2010603@endries.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Adding lines to /etc/rc.conf during sysinstall wihout being "REMOVED" X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 16 Dec 2005 18:29:54 -0000 Josh Endries wrote: > Does anyone know the correct way to add lines to rc.conf without > sysinstall commenting them out and prepending "REMOVED" to them, > during an automated install.cfg routine? Currently I have a pkg I > made that adds stuff like ntp.conf and rc.conf, but all the lines in > my custom rc.conf are removed after the script finishes. > > I looked through the code for sysinstall but didn't see any way to > disable this behavior (my C isn't very good). What would be the > correct way to do this? I'm now having my pkg install a rc.d script > which cat's >> /etc/rc.conf... could you post your install.cfg? Cheers, Erik -- Ph: +34.666334818 web: http://www.locolomo.org S/MIME Certificate: http://www.locolomo.org/crt/2004071206.crt Subject ID: A9:76:7A:ED:06:95:2B:8D:48:97:CE:F2:3F:42:C8:F2:22:DE:4C:B9 Fingerprint: 4A:E8:63:38:46:F6:9A:5D:B4:DC:29:41:3F:62:D3:0A:73:25:67:C2 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Dec 16 18:29:55 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 36CC416A420 for ; Fri, 16 Dec 2005 18:29:55 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from gwen@nvnsvch.org) Received: from nvnsvch.org (nvnsvch.org [205.201.58.103]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B990843D66 for ; Fri, 16 Dec 2005 18:29:46 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from gwen@nvnsvch.org) Received: by nvnsvch.org (Postfix, from userid 1001) id AA2687FFE; Fri, 16 Dec 2005 13:29:35 -0500 (EST) Date: Fri, 16 Dec 2005 13:29:35 -0500 From: gwen To: caleb Message-ID: <20051216182935.GA65113@nvnsvch.org> References: <20051215173501.X3683@nebuchadnezzar.my.domain> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20051215173501.X3683@nebuchadnezzar.my.domain> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, Ted Mittelstaedt , RW Subject: Re: pine X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 16 Dec 2005 18:29:55 -0000 * caleb (destroyingculture@netspace.net.au) [051215 01:39]: > Thanks Gwen and Ted for your feedback. I am using an ADSL > modem, basically a POTS network terminal. I am thinkng of You're welcome, and good luck. I run my own mail server myself, for very similar reasons. > P.S - as for hollywood movies, 'Takedown' - enough said :) Response: Freedom Downtime. :) gwen. gamergothgeekgrrl. http://www.gw3n.com/ right now i'm thinking of going to asheville and being an old washed +up ex-activist for the rest of my days From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Dec 16 18:48:41 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8C2E816A41F for ; Fri, 16 Dec 2005 18:48:41 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from wojtek@tensor.3miasto.net) Received: from chylonia.3miasto.net (chylonia.3miasto.net [213.192.74.6]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 83C3343D49 for ; Fri, 16 Dec 2005 18:48:39 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from wojtek@tensor.3miasto.net) Received: from chylonia.3miasto.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by chylonia.3miasto.net (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id jBGImRES021651; Fri, 16 Dec 2005 19:48:27 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wojtek@tensor.3miasto.net) Received: from localhost (wojtek@localhost) by chylonia.3miasto.net (8.13.4/8.13.4/Submit) with ESMTP id jBGImQ5w021648; Fri, 16 Dec 2005 19:48:27 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wojtek@tensor.3miasto.net) X-Authentication-Warning: chylonia.3miasto.net: wojtek owned process doing -bs Date: Fri, 16 Dec 2005 19:48:26 +0100 (CET) From: Wojciech Puchar X-X-Sender: wojtek@chylonia.3miasto.net To: Alex Zbyslaw In-Reply-To: <43A2C35E.9060206@dial.pipex.com> Message-ID: <20051216194723.S21314@chylonia.3miasto.net> References: <20051216123357.4932.qmail@web31611.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <20051216131451.GV2413@merkur.atekomi.net> <43A2C35E.9060206@dial.pipex.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: swap - 2 HDs X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 16 Dec 2005 18:48:41 -0000 > This is contrary to the "usual" advice which is to split swap across disks > AFAIK. I've never done any benchmarks, but my gut feeling would be that if > the disks were on separate controllers, and if the machine did swap regularly > then two swap partitions would be beneficial. Even on the same controller it it would be beneficial when at least two processes doing pagein/pageout. which is normal on loaded machine which needs swapping. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Dec 16 19:00:19 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 46E5F16A41F for ; Fri, 16 Dec 2005 19:00:19 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from josh@endries.org) Received: from www.endries.org (www.endries.org [216.230.164.2]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 74DD443D4C for ; Fri, 16 Dec 2005 19:00:18 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from josh@endries.org) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by www.endries.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 56ABCF7A96; Fri, 16 Dec 2005 14:00:14 -0500 (EST) Received: from www.endries.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (www.endries.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10025) with LMTP id 19145-01; Fri, 16 Dec 2005 14:00:06 -0500 (EST) Received: from [192.168.0.166] (host-64-246-146-151.ubr0.alb1.inoc.net [64.246.146.151]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by www.endries.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 83EF3F7424; Fri, 16 Dec 2005 14:00:06 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <43A30EB0.9000802@endries.org> Date: Fri, 16 Dec 2005 14:00:00 -0500 From: Josh Endries User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.2 (X11/20050405) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Erik_N=F8rgaard?= References: <43A2F7CE.2010603@endries.org> <43A30792.1040208@locolomo.org> In-Reply-To: <43A30792.1040208@locolomo.org> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.91.0.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at endries.org Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Adding lines to /etc/rc.conf during sysinstall wihout being "REMOVED" X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 16 Dec 2005 19:00:19 -0000 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Erik Nørgaard wrote: > Josh Endries wrote: > >> Does anyone know the correct way to add lines to rc.conf without >> sysinstall commenting them out and prepending "REMOVED" to them, >> during an automated install.cfg routine? Currently I have a pkg I >> made that adds stuff like ntp.conf and rc.conf, but all the lines in >> my custom rc.conf are removed after the script finishes. >> > could you post your install.cfg? Here is my install.cfg: debug=YES #nonInteractive=YES #noWarn=YES disk=ad0 partition=all bootManager=standard diskPartitionEditor #diskPartitionWrite ad0s1-2=swap 4194304 none ad0s1-1=ufs 524288 / ad0s1-3=ufs 19531250 /home 1 ad0s1-4=ufs 2097152 /tmp 1 ad0s1-5=ufs 19531250 /usr 1 ad0s1-6=ufs 0 /var 1 diskLabelEditor diskLabelCommit hostname=test netDev=vr0 nfs=192.168.0.3:/var/export/6.0-RELEASE/ tryDHCP=YES mediaSetNFS #nameserver=192.168.0.7 dists=base distSetCustom installCommit package=portupgrade packageAdd package=sudo packageAdd package=stunnel packageAdd package=syslog-ng packageAdd command=cp /dist/pkgtools.conf /usr/local/etc system command=sed -i '' 's/md5/blf/' /etc/login.conf system command=cap_mkdb /etc/login.conf system command=pkg_add /dist/packages/All/my_base.tgz system shutdown This is the plist for my_base.tgz (warning, it's my first package attempt :)): @name my_base @cwd /etc @srcdir /tmp/my_base ntp.conf rc.conf @cwd /usr/local @srcdir /tmp/my_base etc/syslog-ng/syslog-ng.conf etc/stunnel/stunnel.conf @exec ln /usr/local/etc/rc.d/syslog-ng.sh.sample /usr/local/etc/rc.d/syslog-ng.sh /tmp/my_base/etc/rc.conf: sshd_enable="YES" sshd_flags="-p 2222" ntpd_enable="YES" stunnel_enable="YES" syslogd_enable="NO" After sysinstall's "shutdown" and reboot, it comments out these lines (using "#REMOVED: %s"). Converting them to something like this in install.cfg didn't help, regardless of quotes: command=echo sshd_enable="YES" >> /etc/rc.conf system Thanks, Josh -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.2 (FreeBSD) Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFDow6wV/+PyAj2L+IRAt/xAKCLUjw7cn9CXjyo23aOsVewSQoc5QCgquKL UCf3w0TzJx115E4f2aCKve0= =biMR -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Dec 16 19:15:21 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 28A5616A41F for ; Fri, 16 Dec 2005 19:15:21 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from norgaard@locolomo.org) Received: from strange.daemonsecurity.com (59.Red-81-33-11.staticIP.rima-tde.net [81.33.11.59]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2E41E43D5F for ; Fri, 16 Dec 2005 19:15:19 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from norgaard@locolomo.org) Received: from [172.16.2.1] (unknown [172.16.2.1]) by strange.daemonsecurity.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id AC4E52E041; Fri, 16 Dec 2005 20:15:17 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <43A31243.5010905@locolomo.org> Date: Fri, 16 Dec 2005 20:15:15 +0100 From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Erik_N=F8rgaard?= Organization: Locolomo.ORG User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.6 (X11/20050909) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Josh Endries References: <43A2F7CE.2010603@endries.org> <43A30792.1040208@locolomo.org> <43A30EB0.9000802@endries.org> In-Reply-To: <43A30EB0.9000802@endries.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Adding lines to /etc/rc.conf during sysinstall wihout being "REMOVED" X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 16 Dec 2005 19:15:21 -0000 Josh Endries wrote: > Here is my install.cfg: > > debug=YES > #nonInteractive=YES > #noWarn=YES > > disk=ad0 > partition=all > bootManager=standard > diskPartitionEditor > #diskPartitionWrite > > ad0s1-2=swap 4194304 none > ad0s1-1=ufs 524288 / > ad0s1-3=ufs 19531250 /home 1 > ad0s1-4=ufs 2097152 /tmp 1 > ad0s1-5=ufs 19531250 /usr 1 > ad0s1-6=ufs 0 /var 1 > diskLabelEditor > diskLabelCommit > > hostname=test > netDev=vr0 > nfs=192.168.0.3:/var/export/6.0-RELEASE/ > tryDHCP=YES > mediaSetNFS > > #nameserver=192.168.0.7 > > dists=base > distSetCustom > > installCommit > ... > command=cp /dist/pkgtools.conf /usr/local/etc > system > command=sed -i '' 's/md5/blf/' /etc/login.conf > system > command=cap_mkdb /etc/login.conf > system > command=pkg_add /dist/packages/All/my_base.tgz > system > > shutdown have you considered command=shutdown system ? it may not be the nicest way to do things though. > After sysinstall's "shutdown" and reboot, it comments out these > lines (using "#REMOVED: %s"). Converting them to something like this > in install.cfg didn't help, regardless of quotes: > > command=echo sshd_enable="YES" >> /etc/rc.conf > system two things: try this before shutdown: command=cp /etc/rc.conf /tmp/rc.conf system and also try to echo like this: command=echo 'sshd_enable="YES"' >> /etc/rc.conf I don't know how sysinstall treats quotes. Well, honestly, I don't _know_ the answer to your question, but I hope this helps. Cheers, Erik -- Ph: +34.666334818 web: http://www.locolomo.org S/MIME Certificate: http://www.locolomo.org/crt/2004071206.crt Subject ID: A9:76:7A:ED:06:95:2B:8D:48:97:CE:F2:3F:42:C8:F2:22:DE:4C:B9 Fingerprint: 4A:E8:63:38:46:F6:9A:5D:B4:DC:29:41:3F:62:D3:0A:73:25:67:C2 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Dec 16 19:15:35 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EAAA816A41F for ; Fri, 16 Dec 2005 19:15:35 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from gwen@nvnsvch.org) Received: from nvnsvch.org (nvnsvch.org [205.201.58.103]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9C16943D5C for ; Fri, 16 Dec 2005 19:15:35 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from gwen@nvnsvch.org) Received: by nvnsvch.org (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 84E7080E5; Fri, 16 Dec 2005 14:15:35 -0500 (EST) Date: Fri, 16 Dec 2005 14:15:35 -0500 From: gwen To: Igor Robul Message-ID: <20051216191535.GC65113@nvnsvch.org> References: <200512140207.44237.list-freebsd-2004@morbius.sent.com> <20051215154940.GL98760@sysadm.stc> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20051215154940.GL98760@sysadm.stc> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: pine X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 16 Dec 2005 19:15:36 -0000 * Igor Robul (igorr@speechpro.com) [051215 10:50]: > On Wed, Dec 14, 2005 at 12:21:19PM -0800, Ted Mittelstaedt wrote: > > The first thing you can do is go out and shoo the crackers > > off the telephone pole who are tapped into your phone line > > and sniffing your passwords. > By the way, is there any relative cheap solution to do this? > I mean we can record phone conversation, but how can we decode all this > V.90, PPP, IP, TCP out of recorded audio? This is what modems are for. :) gwen. gamergothgeekgrrl. http://www.gw3n.com/ * martygreene shivvers why is it so damn cold? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Dec 16 19:18:29 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E3BA916A41F for ; Fri, 16 Dec 2005 19:18:29 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from gwen@nvnsvch.org) Received: from nvnsvch.org (nvnsvch.org [205.201.58.103]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 988B143D8C for ; Fri, 16 Dec 2005 19:18:29 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from gwen@nvnsvch.org) Received: by nvnsvch.org (Postfix, from userid 1001) id D303B80F2; Fri, 16 Dec 2005 14:18:29 -0500 (EST) Date: Fri, 16 Dec 2005 14:18:29 -0500 From: gwen To: Kris Kennaway Message-ID: <20051216191829.GD65113@nvnsvch.org> References: <20051216043149.ZHKW26964.fed1rmmtao08.cox.net@[172.18.180.8]> <20051216045059.GA69605@xor.obsecurity.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20051216045059.GA69605@xor.obsecurity.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, georgevarshock@cox.net Subject: Re: Ebay Auction Win- Item 6574118600 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 16 Dec 2005 19:18:30 -0000 * Kris Kennaway (kris@obsecurity.org) [051215 23:51]: > > The mind boggles how you managed to screw up this email :) A great story from another SysAdmin friend of mine: PERFECT EXAMPLE OF WHY TAB-COMPLETION IS NOT ALWAYS A GOOD THING Wookie has an email alias of lunchbox@ jeff went to send a nakie picture of brittney spears to Wookie and tab-completed lun[TAB] to lunch-orders@ and sent nakie brittney spears to half of the office Perhaps this tamer mav is a symptom of the same disorder? :) gwen. gamergothgeekgrrl. http://www.gw3n.com/ ___Do you run fsck and just say yes to everything? ___--Do you conduct your personal relationships in the same way? -- BOFH.net SysAdmin Purity Test From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Dec 16 19:28:07 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 43F5416A422 for ; Fri, 16 Dec 2005 19:28:07 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from FreeBSD@keyslapper.net) Received: from english-breakfast.cloud9.net (english-breakfast.cloud9.net [168.100.1.9]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 086AF43D6D for ; Fri, 16 Dec 2005 19:27:24 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from FreeBSD@keyslapper.net) Received: from english-breakfast.cloud9.net (localhost.cloud9.net [127.0.0.1]) by english-breakfast.cloud9.net (Postfix) with SMTP id 1A2B619F60 for ; Fri, 16 Dec 2005 14:27:18 -0500 (EST) Received: from keyslapper.net (250-119.customer.cloud9.net [168.100.250.119]) by english-breakfast.cloud9.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 482BF19EB9 for ; Fri, 16 Dec 2005 14:27:17 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by keyslapper.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6F8B11172D for ; Fri, 16 Dec 2005 14:22:49 -0500 (EST) Received: from keyslapper.net ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (keyslapper.net [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 40479-03 for ; Fri, 16 Dec 2005 14:22:49 -0500 (EST) Received: from www.keyslapper.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by keyslapper.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 231D511445 for ; Fri, 16 Dec 2005 14:22:49 -0500 (EST) Received: from 38.112.155.126 (SquirrelMail authenticated user leblanc) by www.keyslapper.net with HTTP; Fri, 16 Dec 2005 14:22:49 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <17678.38.112.155.126.1134760969.squirrel@www.keyslapper.net> In-Reply-To: <20051216191829.GD65113@nvnsvch.org> References: <20051216043149.ZHKW26964.fed1rmmtao08.cox.net@[172.18.180.8]> <20051216045059.GA69605@xor.obsecurity.org> <20051216191829.GD65113@nvnsvch.org> Date: Fri, 16 Dec 2005 14:22:49 -0500 (EST) From: "Louis J. LeBlanc" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.5 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at keyslapper.net Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-AntiVirus: Checked by Vexira Antivirus v1.5 Subject: Re: Ebay Auction Win- Item 6574118600 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 16 Dec 2005 19:28:07 -0000 On Fri, December 16, 2005 2:18 pm, gwen wrote: > * Kris Kennaway (kris@obsecurity.org) [051215 23:51]: >> >> The mind boggles how you managed to screw up this email :) > > A great story from another SysAdmin friend of mine: > > PERFECT EXAMPLE OF WHY TAB-COMPLETION IS NOT ALWAYS A GOO= D THING > Wookie has an email alias of lunchbox@ > jeff went to send a nakie picture of brittney spears to Wookie > and tab-completed lun[TAB] to lunch-orders@ > and sent nakie brittney spears to half of the office Excellent conclusion. Very insightful to come up with such an explainati= on. And how does one get on the lunch_orders list? Sorry, couldn't resist. :P L --=20 Louis LeBlanc FreeBSD@keyslapper.net Fully Funded Hobbyist, KeySlapper Extrordinaire :=FE http://www.keyslapper.net =D4=BF=D4=AC From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Dec 16 21:31:12 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C2FDB16A41F for ; Fri, 16 Dec 2005 21:31:12 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from martster@gmail.com) Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.196]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 99EE943D5C for ; Fri, 16 Dec 2005 21:31:11 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from martster@gmail.com) Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 8so711174nzo for ; Fri, 16 Dec 2005 13:31:11 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type; b=Z5nZnXwxgk5vaPaUMdcpXIa1idjvnMNDSsf1C4d33CK/s4oFKQF3Hgt3xIsImuUM0DY4hKYoJnx2a4ENS5cLQ61geD5YdrcBgoW9d5LmjxX5fWMlU6qPg0KOequdnUbgsoif/4SYagOS1HHqnlWSeRdowFGzEEImsz092qGxn6M= Received: by 10.36.177.19 with SMTP id z19mr3314017nze; Fri, 16 Dec 2005 13:31:11 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.36.80.14 with HTTP; Fri, 16 Dec 2005 13:31:11 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <70063950512161331u294280cdl8bd552be9426752c@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 16 Dec 2005 16:31:11 -0500 From: Marty Landman To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: how to dual boot X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 16 Dec 2005 21:31:12 -0000 I'm trying to get a dual boot system set up with FBSD 5.3 and Win XP sp1. First I installed FBSD using 15GB of the HD, then installed XP on the remaining 5GB. However now it boots up XP automatically. I can get back to the FBSD installer by booting from the 5.3 CD but what do I do to provide a choice of which to boot right on the HD? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Dec 16 21:39:54 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1557A16A41F for ; Fri, 16 Dec 2005 21:39:54 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from hde@daden.net) Received: from mail.ruder.net (216-166-252-178.dsl.peknil.grics.net [216.166.252.178]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 093E743D45 for ; Fri, 16 Dec 2005 21:39:34 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from hde@daden.net) Received: from 12.203.202.40 ([12.203.202.40]) by mail.ruder.net ([192.168.10.10]) with Microsoft Exchange Server HTTP-DAV ; Fri, 16 Dec 2005 21:39:29 +0000 Received: from devilBSD.freeBSD by mail.daden.net; 16 Dec 2005 15:39:29 -0600 From: "Harley D. Eades III" To: Marty Landman In-Reply-To: <70063950512161331u294280cdl8bd552be9426752c@mail.gmail.com> References: <70063950512161331u294280cdl8bd552be9426752c@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Date: Fri, 16 Dec 2005 15:39:29 -0600 Message-Id: <1134769169.34653.60.camel@devilBSD.freeBSD> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.2.1.1 FreeBSD GNOME Team Port Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: how to dual boot X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 16 Dec 2005 21:39:54 -0000 On Fri, 2005-12-16 at 16:31 -0500, Marty Landman wrote: > I'm trying to get a dual boot system set up with FBSD 5.3 and Win XP sp1. > First I installed FBSD using 15GB of the HD, then installed XP on the > remaining 5GB. However now it boots up XP automatically. I can get back to > the FBSD installer by booting from the 5.3 CD but what do I do to provide a > choice of which to boot right on the HD? If you can get to freebsd use the freebsd bootloader and renable it via fdisk -B -b /boot/boot0 device, or you could install grub and use it. see: http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/boot-blocks.html and http://www.pl.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/articles/multi-os/article.html Cheers && _GOOD_LUCK_ -- Harley -----BEGIN GEEK CODE BLOCK----- G: GCS-- d- a? C++++ B- E+++ W+++ N++ w--- X+++ b++ G e* r x+ z+++++ ------END GEEK CODE BLOCK------ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Dec 16 21:46:15 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E479416A41F for ; Fri, 16 Dec 2005 21:46:15 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from algould@datawok.com) Received: from elasmtp-kukur.atl.sa.earthlink.net (elasmtp-kukur.atl.sa.earthlink.net [209.86.89.65]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9214943D45 for ; Fri, 16 Dec 2005 21:46:15 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from algould@datawok.com) Received: from [206.255.31.21] (helo=grokwell.org) by elasmtp-kukur.atl.sa.earthlink.net with asmtp (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.34) id 1EnNP4-0002q2-Mh; Fri, 16 Dec 2005 16:46:14 -0500 Date: Fri, 16 Dec 2005 15:43:06 -0600 From: "Andrew L. Gould" To: Marty Landman Message-ID: <20051216154306.0f43317e@grokwell.org> In-Reply-To: <70063950512161331u294280cdl8bd552be9426752c@mail.gmail.com> References: <70063950512161331u294280cdl8bd552be9426752c@mail.gmail.com> X-Mailer: Sylpheed-Claws 1.9.13 (GTK+ 2.6.9; i386-portbld-freebsd6.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-ELNK-Trace: ee791d459e3d6817d780f4a490ca69563f9fea00a6dd62bc299e04f8396e9d9b136e876be8f0a5b8350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c X-Originating-IP: 206.255.31.21 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: how to dual boot X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 16 Dec 2005 21:46:16 -0000 On Fri, 16 Dec 2005 16:31:11 -0500 Marty Landman wrote: > I'm trying to get a dual boot system set up with FBSD 5.3 and Win XP > sp1. First I installed FBSD using 15GB of the HD, then installed XP > on the remaining 5GB. However now it boots up XP automatically. I can > get back to the FBSD installer by booting from the 5.3 CD but what do > I do to provide a choice of which to boot right on the HD? > _______________________________________________ You could try the following: 0. Understand that life is risk management; and that I offer no guarantees/warranties regarding the following advice. Continue at your own risk. 1. Boot from the installation CD. 2. When you get to the sysinstall Main Menu, select Index. 3. Select the Partition module. 4. DO NOT delete any partitions. 5. Set the FreeBSD and NTFS partitions as bootable. 6. Write your changes. 7. When given the option, install the FreeBSD boot loader (which Windows erased during installation). 8. Back out of the sysinstall menus and quit. 9. Reboot, remove the CD and see what happens. Good luck, Andrew Gould From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Dec 16 22:06:00 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 435CA16A41F for ; Fri, 16 Dec 2005 22:06:00 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from chris@childeric.freeserve.co.uk) Received: from smtp-out5.blueyonder.co.uk (smtp-out5.blueyonder.co.uk [195.188.213.8]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 99EC243D49 for ; Fri, 16 Dec 2005 22:05:58 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from chris@childeric.freeserve.co.uk) Received: from [192.168.10.60] ([82.35.113.87]) by smtp-out5.blueyonder.co.uk with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.6713); Fri, 16 Dec 2005 22:06:53 +0000 Message-ID: <43A339D9.1080200@childeric.freeserve.co.uk> Date: Fri, 16 Dec 2005 22:04:09 +0000 From: Chris Whitehouse User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.7 (X11/20051017) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 CC: FreeBSD References: <20051212040744.66038.qmail@web54201.mail.yahoo.com> <439E0581.4020507@childeric.freeserve.co.uk> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-OriginalArrivalTime: 16 Dec 2005 22:06:53.0780 (UTC) FILETIME=[05D00140:01C6028D] Subject: Re: FreeBSD starter machine X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 16 Dec 2005 22:06:00 -0000 Pietro Cerutti wrote: > On 12/13/05, Chris Whitehouse wrote: > >>A way to use your current machine for both operating systems without >>dual booting is to install a second hard disk, install FreeBSD and >>select which to boot from in the bios. It's a slight faff changing boot >>disk but works fine and keeps the OS's completely separate. >> > > > Could you please tell me the problems which could rise using dual boot? > > I really can't imagine any, since the two (or more) OSes are on > different slices, and can't interfere which each other in any way. Decide to redo the play machine when too tired, fdisk the wrong slice... As a newbie not understand which slice to fdisk... It was really in response to OP being 'not keen about running dual OS's' I have to run windows for work and sharing a play machine with a must be working machine doesn't seem as safe on a dual boot setup as two separate disks. You can even unplug the other disk to avoid mistakes. Just my choice. Chris > > Thanx, > > > -- > Pietro Cerutti > > > Beansidhe - SwiSS Death / Thrash Metal > > > Windows: "Where do you want to go today?" > Linux: "Where do you want to go tomorrow?" > FreeBSD: "Are you guys coming or what?" > > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Dec 16 22:13:49 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5A06316A41F for ; Fri, 16 Dec 2005 22:13:49 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from gerard@seibercom.net) Received: from smtp3.suscom.net (smtp3.suscom.net [64.78.119.250]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D9F8443D58 for ; Fri, 16 Dec 2005 22:13:48 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from gerard@seibercom.net) Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by smtp3.suscom.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2CA26211899 for ; Fri, 16 Dec 2005 17:13:46 -0500 (EST) Received: from smtp3.suscom.net ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (smtp3.suscom.net [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 24378-01-53 for ; Fri, 16 Dec 2005 17:13:35 -0500 (EST) Received: from seibercom.net (ip148.217.susc.suscom.net [216.45.217.148]) by smtp3.suscom.net (Postfix) with SMTP id B315E211897 for ; Fri, 16 Dec 2005 17:13:34 -0500 (EST) Received: from [192.168.0.2] (//gerard [192.168.0.2]) by seibercom.net (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id jBGMDapS082746 for ; Fri, 16 Dec 2005 17:13:36 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from gerard@seibercom.net) Date: Fri, 16 Dec 2005 17:13:52 -0500 From: Gerard Seibert To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sender: gerard@seibercom.net Organization: Seibercom X-Face: "\j?x](l|]4p?-1Bf@!wN<&p=$.}^k-HgL}cJKbQZ3r#Ar]\%U(#6}'?<3s7%(%(gxJxxcR nSNPNr*/^~StawWU9KDJ-CT0k$f#@t2^K&BS_f|?ZV/.7Q Message-Id: <20051216170728.C82B.GERARD@seibercom.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Mailer: Becky! ver. 2.24.01 [en] X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at suscom.net Subject: Using S/MIME with KMail X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 16 Dec 2005 22:13:49 -0000 FreeBSD 5.4 I have been unable to get S/MIME to work in KMail. In the configuration section for KMail, the S/MIME section is grayed out. I have two valid certificates that I can view using FireFox installed on this system. I was told that I would need to install "gpgme" in order to use "gpgsm" to get the certificates installed correctly. I am just trying to confirm if this is correct. I really do no want to go installing a lot of programs that I really do not need, nor know how to use. If anyone has a better idea, I would appreciate hearing about it. -- Gerard Seibert gerard@seibercom.net It is impossible to make anything foolproof, because fools are so ingenious. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Dec 16 22:17:56 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 86BB516A423 for ; Fri, 16 Dec 2005 22:17:56 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from kstewart@owt.com) Received: from smtp.owt.com (smtp.owt.com [204.118.6.19]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7F48D43D68 for ; Fri, 16 Dec 2005 22:17:46 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from kstewart@owt.com) Received: from topaz-out (owt-207-41-94-233.owt.com [207.41.94.233]) by smtp.owt.com (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id jBGMHIx4027882; Fri, 16 Dec 2005 14:17:19 -0800 From: Kent Stewart To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Fri, 16 Dec 2005 14:17:41 -0800 User-Agent: KMail/1.8.3 References: <70063950512161331u294280cdl8bd552be9426752c@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <70063950512161331u294280cdl8bd552be9426752c@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200512161417.41218.kstewart@owt.com> Cc: Marty Landman Subject: Re: how to dual boot X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 16 Dec 2005 22:17:56 -0000 On Friday 16 December 2005 01:31 pm, Marty Landman wrote: > I'm trying to get a dual boot system set up with FBSD 5.3 and Win XP > sp1. First I installed FBSD using 15GB of the HD, then installed XP > on the remaining 5GB. However now it boots up XP automatically. I can > get back to the FBSD installer by booting from the 5.3 CD but what do > I do to provide a choice of which to boot right on the HD? I use the ntldr to boot my dual boots. You just have to copy boot1 onto your c-drive and then add it to your boot.ini. You can do that from the system applet. I renamed boot1 to bootsect.bsd and my boot.ini is as follows: [boot loader] timeout=4 default=multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(4)\WINXP [operating systems] multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(4)\WINXP="Microsoft Windows XP Professional" /f c:\bootsect.bsd="FreeBSD" The line should be XP Professional but all I added was the FreeBSD. Ntldr lets you choose which one is primary and then, with a pop-down menu, easily change it to something else. Kent -- Kent Stewart Richland, WA http://users.owt.com/kstewart/index.html From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Dec 16 22:25:29 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E29D716A425 for ; Fri, 16 Dec 2005 22:25:29 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from playnet@mail333.com) Received: from smtp1.pochta.ru (smtp1.pochta.ru [81.211.64.6]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4710343D49 for ; Fri, 16 Dec 2005 22:25:23 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from playnet@mail333.com) Received: from pl (dialup84123-114.ip.PeterStar.net [84.204.123.114]) (author=playnet@mail333.com authenticated bits=0) by smtp1.pochta.ru (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP daemon=POCHTA.RU id jBGMPCDE078268 for ; Sat, 17 Dec 2005 01:25:13 +0300 (MSK) (envelope-from playnet@mail333.com) Resent-Date: Sat, 17 Dec 2005 01:25:12 +0300 (MSK) Resent-Message-Id: <200512162225.jBGMPCDE078268@smtp1.pochta.ru> X-Author: playnet@mail333.com from pl (dialup84123-114.ip.PeterStar.net [84.204.123.114]) via Free Mail POCHTA.RU Date: Sat, 17 Dec 2005 01:28:43 +0300 From: Playnet X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <142786200.20051217012843@mail333.com> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Resent-from: Playnet MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Courier and postfix X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: playnet List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 16 Dec 2005 22:25:30 -0000 Hello freebsd-questions, How i can install subj? Or i need use Exim? I have LDAP server and userlist within. What better for auth via LDAP and good work? Postfix + ... (cyrus?) or Exim + ... (courier?) ? Where i can read about pluses and minuses these MTAs? FreeBSD 5.3 -- Best regards, Playnet From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Dec 16 22:27:36 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 363B916A420 for ; Fri, 16 Dec 2005 22:27:36 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from kirk@strauser.com) Received: from kanga.honeypot.net (kanga.honeypot.net [208.162.254.122]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A335B43D53 for ; Fri, 16 Dec 2005 22:27:35 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from kirk@strauser.com) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by kanga.honeypot.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2A8A59AE22 for ; Fri, 16 Dec 2005 16:27:34 -0600 (CST) Received: from kanga.honeypot.net ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (kanga.honeypot.net [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 65452-13 for ; Fri, 16 Dec 2005 16:27:33 -0600 (CST) Received: from janus.daycos.com (janus.daycos.com [204.26.70.77]) (using TLSv1 with cipher RC4-MD5 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by kanga.honeypot.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E3E509762D for ; Fri, 16 Dec 2005 16:27:32 -0600 (CST) From: Kirk Strauser To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Fri, 16 Dec 2005 16:27:28 -0600 User-Agent: KMail/1.8.3 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="nextPart3218093.BhiVzUTnNM"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=pgp-sha1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <200512161627.31571.kirk@strauser.com> X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at honeypot.net Subject: ejabberd + Bandersnatch? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 16 Dec 2005 22:27:36 -0000 --nextPart3218093.BhiVzUTnNM Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline I have ejabberd (version 0.9.8 from ports) running inside a jail on my =46reeBSD 6-STABLE server. I'm trying to get Bandersnatch to run inside the same jail, but logging to a MySQL database inside a different jail. I've verified that I can use the mysql command line client to connect to the server, and triple-checked Bandersnatch's config.xml, but when I try to run it, I get some rather unhelpful error messages: # ./bandersnatch2.pl config.xml 2 -> _start (from /usr/local/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.8.7/POE/Kernel.pm at 124= 6) 2 -> _child (from /usr/local/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.8.7/POE/Kernel.pm at 125= 6) DBI::db=3DHASH(0x87c3524) trace level set to 0x0/2 (DBI @ 0x0/0) in DBI= 1.49-nothread (pid 40431) Server Error: read: 0 -> 2 -> error_event (from /usr/local/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.8.7/POE/Component/J= abber/Client/J2.pm at 447) Connected to MySQL database (bandersnatch@jail1.daycos.com) ...Socket error= : read, 0, 2 -> error_event (from /usr/local/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.8.7/POE/Component/J= abber/Client/J2.pm at 194) We got disconneted 2 -> _child (from /usr/local/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.8.7/POE/Resource/Session= s.pm at 493) 2 -> _stop (from /usr/local/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.8.7/POE/Resource/Sessions= =2Epm at 483) ! -> DESTROY for DBD::mysql::db (DBI::db=3DHASH(0x87c3524)~INNER) &imp_dbh->mysql: 806e060 ! <- DESTROY=3D undef during global destruction I can't make heads or tails of this. Is that a MySQL error? A ejabberd error? A Bandersnatch bug? My next step is to hit the Bandersnatch mailing list, but I thought I'd see if anyone else running FreeBSD had worked through this error already. Thanks, =2D-=20 Kirk Strauser --nextPart3218093.BhiVzUTnNM Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iD8DBQBDoz9T5sRg+Y0CpvERAoBqAJ0Uv36twDYBhiAGGou6UfH6fSx27QCghHlD p5Tq8ZHxSewjVuQNOzrmY8U= =6YAQ -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --nextPart3218093.BhiVzUTnNM-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Dec 16 23:25:06 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EC99216A41F for ; Fri, 16 Dec 2005 23:25:06 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from smurphy@calarts.edu) Received: from muse.calarts.edu (muse.calarts.edu [198.182.157.5]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CAA7B43D46 for ; Fri, 16 Dec 2005 23:25:05 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from smurphy@calarts.edu) Received: from [198.182.157.164] (dhcp7164.calarts.edu [198.182.157.164]) by muse.calarts.edu (8.11.7p1+Sun/8.11.7) with ESMTP id jBGNP3h11086 for ; Fri, 16 Dec 2005 15:25:03 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <43A34D1B.8060105@calarts.edu> Date: Fri, 16 Dec 2005 15:26:19 -0800 From: Sean Murphy User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5 (Windows/20051025) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Random password generation X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 16 Dec 2005 23:25:07 -0000 When creating user accounts with adduser you can have the system generate a random password. Can you use a tool included in FreeBSD to change specific existing users passwords with a random one such as the one in adduser? it would also be usefull to do this from a input file to do multiple users. The passwords I would need on the screen to give to the users. If not is there an open source one to do this? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Dec 17 00:32:08 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5F9BF16A41F for ; Sat, 17 Dec 2005 00:32:08 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from dtsam@cc.ece.ntua.gr) Received: from mx-out-02.forthnet.gr (mx-out.forthnet.gr [193.92.150.6]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E148343D45 for ; Sat, 17 Dec 2005 00:32:05 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from dtsam@cc.ece.ntua.gr) Received: from mx-av-02.forthnet.gr (mx-av.forthnet.gr [193.92.150.27]) by mx-out-02.forthnet.gr (8.13.5/8.13.5) with ESMTP id jBH0W3GE012101 for ; Sat, 17 Dec 2005 02:32:03 +0200 Received: from mx-in-01.forthnet.gr (mx-in-01.forthnet.gr [193.92.150.23]) by mx-av-02.forthnet.gr (8.13.5/8.13.5) with ESMTP id jBH0W2t5001679 for ; Sat, 17 Dec 2005 02:32:02 +0200 Received: from [192.168.254.1] (ppp31-adsl-241.ath.forthnet.gr [62.1.242.241]) by mx-in-01.forthnet.gr (8.13.5/8.13.5) with ESMTP id jBH0VvPN004589 for ; Sat, 17 Dec 2005 02:31:58 +0200 Authentication-Results: mx-in-01.forthnet.gr from=dtsam@cc.ece.ntua.gr; sender-id=neutral; spf=neutral Message-ID: <43A35C7C.90909@cc.ece.ntua.gr> Date: Sat, 17 Dec 2005 02:31:56 +0200 From: Dimitris Tsamis User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.7 (X11/20051208) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <000a01c60cb3$8aac6130$2401a8c0@XGISH> In-Reply-To: <000a01c60cb3$8aac6130$2401a8c0@XGISH> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Passing make options to portmanager X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 17 Dec 2005 00:32:08 -0000 I want to switch from portupgrade to portmanager, but I have a few questions. First of all, how do I pass make options to portmanager? (like the -m option for portupgrade). I often pass selected make options to multimedia players to choose what formats will be supported. Can someone verify that portmanager reads pkgtools.conf? Thanks for your time From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Dec 17 00:33:38 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C0B4C16A41F for ; Sat, 17 Dec 2005 00:33:38 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from playnet@mail333.com) Received: from smtp1.pochta.ru (smtp1.pochta.ru [81.211.64.6]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B4A3C43D5D for ; Sat, 17 Dec 2005 00:33:37 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from playnet@mail333.com) Received: from pl (dialup84122-53.ip.PeterStar.net [84.204.122.53]) (author=playnet@mail333.com authenticated bits=0) by smtp1.pochta.ru (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP daemon=POCHTA.RU id jBH0XY8K014578 for ; Sat, 17 Dec 2005 03:33:35 +0300 (MSK) (envelope-from playnet@mail333.com) X-Author: playnet@mail333.com from pl (dialup84122-53.ip.PeterStar.net [84.204.122.53]) via Free Mail POCHTA.RU Date: Sat, 17 Dec 2005 03:37:02 +0300 From: Playnet X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1514699837.20051217033702@mail333.com> To: FreeBSD MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: test X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: playnet List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 17 Dec 2005 00:33:38 -0000 Hello FreeBSD, Subj... -- Best regards, Playnet mailto:playnet@mail333.com From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Dec 17 00:39:30 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EFEE016A41F for ; Sat, 17 Dec 2005 00:39:30 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jerrymc@clunix.cl.msu.edu) Received: from clunix.cl.msu.edu (clunix.cl.msu.edu [35.9.2.10]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4FD0943D55 for ; Sat, 17 Dec 2005 00:39:30 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jerrymc@clunix.cl.msu.edu) Received: from clunix.cl.msu.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by clunix.cl.msu.edu (8.12.10+Sun/8.12.2) with ESMTP id jBH0dU38005584; Fri, 16 Dec 2005 19:39:30 -0500 (EST) Received: (from jerrymc@localhost) by clunix.cl.msu.edu (8.12.10+Sun/8.12.2/Submit) id jBH0dTOK005583; Fri, 16 Dec 2005 19:39:29 -0500 (EST) From: Jerry McAllister Message-Id: <200512170039.jBH0dTOK005583@clunix.cl.msu.edu> To: martster@gmail.com (Marty Landman) Date: Fri, 16 Dec 2005 19:39:29 -0500 (EST) In-Reply-To: <70063950512161331u294280cdl8bd552be9426752c@mail.gmail.com> X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.5 PL7] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: how to dual boot X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 17 Dec 2005 00:39:31 -0000 > > I'm trying to get a dual boot system set up with FBSD 5.3 and Win XP sp1. > First I installed FBSD using 15GB of the HD, then installed XP on the > remaining 5GB. However now it boots up XP automatically. I can get back to > the FBSD installer by booting from the 5.3 CD but what do I do to provide a > choice of which to boot right on the HD? You need to read the documentation better. It tells you that you should install Microsloth first and then FreeBSD. That is because MS doesn't play nicely and assumes it is the only thing in the world and overwrites your MBR without asking and their MBR will only boot MS (slightly different in recent MS, but essentially the same is true). But, FreeBSD is more sophisticated and also more friendly to the rest of the world and, first of all, asks if you want an MBR installed in the sector 0 and then if you go ahead and write FreeBSD's MBR, it will give you a choice of bootable slices to boot, including MS if present. The only odd thing is if the FreeBSD MBR detects a bootable slice with a filesystem type it does not know such as NTFS, it identifies it in the menu as '???' rather than with a name. It will still boot just fine. It does recognize FATxx filesystems, FreeBSD, of course and some others. But, it doesn't have room to store names for lots of others because it is a true MBR and only uses the one sector allocated rather than using some of the space that is typically (but not officially) not used in the first cylindar. Since you have already let MS wipe out the FreeBSD MBR, you can just put the install CD back in and tell it to write the FreeBSD MBR or even just reinstall FreeBSD from scratch, though that shouldn't actually be necessary. ////jerry > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Dec 17 01:02:23 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CD9AD16A41F for ; Sat, 17 Dec 2005 01:02:23 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from kline@tao.thought.org) Received: from tao.thought.org (dsl231-043-140.sea1.dsl.speakeasy.net [216.231.43.140]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4C72643D45 for ; Sat, 17 Dec 2005 01:02:23 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from kline@tao.thought.org) Received: from tao.thought.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by tao.thought.org (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id jBH12Lpv060543 for ; Fri, 16 Dec 2005 17:02:22 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from kline@tao.thought.org) Received: (from kline@localhost) by tao.thought.org (8.13.1/8.13.1/Submit) id jBH12Lt8060542 for freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG; Fri, 16 Dec 2005 17:02:21 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from kline) Date: Fri, 16 Dec 2005 17:02:21 -0800 From: Gary Kline To: FreeBSD Mailing List Message-ID: <20051217010221.GA60469@thought.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i X-Organization: Thought Unlimited. Public service Unix since 1986. X-Of_Interest: Observing 19 years of service to the Unix community Cc: Subject: HP ScanJet 4100c? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 17 Dec 2005 01:02:24 -0000 Guys, is this my big opportunity or what! :-) A friend bought an HP ScanJet 4100c for $15. For unknoen reason, it does not work wsith W-XP, but might this work with FBSD? Otherwise, I'm looking for a scanner with OCR-ware. For either my W2K box or FBSD. I finally do have the book I'm aiming to scan; I don;t know what happened to my friend with the microfiche of this text. Zero reply. Is there anybody in the Western WA locale who'd be willing to lend me scanner with OCR software or tell me what to buy that works with FBSD. For $15, it's worth asking about. gary -- Gary Kline kline@thought.org www.thought.org Public service Unix From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Dec 17 01:06:22 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E9EED16A41F for ; Sat, 17 Dec 2005 01:06:21 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from chris@xecu.net) Received: from mss2.myactv.net (mss2.myactv.net [24.89.0.27]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 4B07B43D46 for ; Sat, 17 Dec 2005 01:06:21 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from chris@xecu.net) Received: (qmail 18974 invoked from network); 17 Dec 2005 01:06:20 -0000 Received: from mss1.myactv.net (HELO ?192.168.1.86?) (24.89.0.26) by mss2.myactv.net with SMTP; 17 Dec 2005 01:06:20 -0000 Message-ID: <43A36485.7090409@xecu.net> Date: Fri, 16 Dec 2005 20:06:13 -0500 From: Christopher McGee User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.6 (Windows/20050716) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <46101566D29D0545B46956D30185677E016751@IVCLONEXCH01.IVCAPITAL.COM> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: ntp problems (strata too high) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 17 Dec 2005 01:06:22 -0000 Svein Halvor Halvorsen wrote: >On 12/8/05, Michael Wynne wrote: > > >>The information contained in this e-mail and its attachments ('the >>information") is intended only for the use of the individual or entity >>to whom it is addressed, is private and confidential, may be privileged >>or otherwise protected by work product immunity or other legal rules. >>Access to the information by anyone else is unauthorized. [...] >> >> > >Then why would you send it to a public mailinglist, that's archived >and propagated throughout the internet, and made available to anyone >through search engines and the like? >_______________________________________________ >freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list >http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions >To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > I hate to reopen a dead thread, however, I'm having a very strange problem I have 2 machines running ntpd. I just set this up and it is not working. I don't think the ntpd servers are syncing properly and ntpdate -b 192.168.1.2 doesn't work, it gives me a strata too high with the -d flag. Here is my current config/output, this network is not actually nat'd private ips so I changed the ips for security reasons: server1(192.168.1.2) /etc/ntp.conf server 0.pool.ntp.org server 1.pool.ntp.org server 2.pool.ntp.org server pool.ntp.org peer 192.168.1.3 restrict 192.168.1.0 mask 255.255.255.0 nomodify notrap logconfig =syncall +clockall +sysall ntpq -p output remote refid st t when poll reach delay offset jitter ============================================================================== +195.216.80.207 195.216.80.206 2 u 283 512 37 109.803 -230.38 62.815 *ipd50ad048.spee 130.149.17.8 2 u 285 512 37 101.458 -190.45 85.706 +antares.speedne 217.11.227.68 3 u 285 512 37 137.773 -192.71 85.431 +cheddar.halon.o 129.240.64.3 3 u 282 512 37 76.770 -276.95 62.389 192.168.1.3 .STEP. 16 u 1 128 0 0.000 0.000 4000.00 server2 (192.168.1.3) /etc/ntp.conf server 0.pool.ntp.org server 1.pool.ntp.org server 2.pool.ntp.org server pool.ntp.org peer 192.168.1.2 restrict 192.168.1.0 mask 255.255.255.0 nomodify notrap logconfig =syncall +clockall +sysall ntpq -p output remote refid st t when poll reach delay offset jitter ============================================================================== zirkon.biophys. 134.99.128.80 2 u 71 128 7 94.189 -77.270 27.511 oubliette.mctav .MSF. 1 u 70 128 7 98.417 -38.531 16.505 antares.speedne 217.11.227.68 3 u 70 128 7 136.851 -53.314 27.989 cteha.ulp.co.il 192.114.62.249 3 u 5 128 7 170.650 -52.706 17.982 192.168.1.2 .DROP. 16 u - 64 0 0.000 0.000 4000.00 Any help getting this to work will be appreciated. Chris From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Dec 17 01:17:44 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4009816A41F for ; Sat, 17 Dec 2005 01:17:44 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from mistry.7@osu.edu) Received: from mail.united-ware.com (am-productions.biz [69.61.164.22]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A5E3643D58 for ; Sat, 17 Dec 2005 01:17:43 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from mistry.7@osu.edu) Received: from [192.168.1.100] (am-productions.biz [69.61.164.22]) (authenticated bits=0) by mail.united-ware.com (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id jBH1Knw8035617 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5 bits=128 verify=NO); Fri, 16 Dec 2005 20:20:54 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from mistry.7@osu.edu) From: Anish Mistry To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Fri, 16 Dec 2005 20:19:21 -0500 User-Agent: KMail/1.8.3 References: <20051217010221.GA60469@thought.org> In-Reply-To: <20051217010221.GA60469@thought.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="nextPart1589806.Z6GbPrib05"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=pgp-sha1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <200512162019.49001.mistry.7@osu.edu> X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.2 required=5.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,BAYES_50, J_CHICKENPOX_31,MYFREEBSD2 autolearn=failed version=3.1.0 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.0 (2005-09-13) on mail.united-ware.com X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV 0.87/1210/Thu Dec 15 10:23:22 2005 on mail.united-ware.com X-Virus-Status: Clean Cc: Gary Kline Subject: Re: HP ScanJet 4100c? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 17 Dec 2005 01:17:44 -0000 --nextPart1589806.Z6GbPrib05 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline On Friday 16 December 2005 08:02 pm, Gary Kline wrote: > Guys, is this my big opportunity or what! :-) > > A friend bought an HP ScanJet 4100c for $15. For unknoen > reason, it does not work wsith W-XP, but might this work > with FBSD? > > Otherwise, I'm looking for a scanner with OCR-ware. For > either my W2K box or FBSD. I finally do have the book I'm > aiming to scan; I don;t know what happened to my friend > with the microfiche of this text. Zero reply. > > Is there anybody in the Western WA locale who'd be willing > to lend me scanner with OCR software or tell me what to > buy that works with FBSD. For $15, it's worth asking about. > Check out if sane supports it. I'm in a similar situation with a HP=20 Scanjet 6200C. The driver on the HP isn't actually a driver so the=20 scanner is useless in Windows. I booted into FreeBSD, kldload=20 uscanner, and started xsane, it worked perfectly. I haven't tried=20 the OCR part of xsane, but it should work. =2D-=20 Anish Mistry --nextPart1589806.Z6GbPrib05 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.2 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQBDo2e0xqA5ziudZT0RAkgCAJ4ojNJktw3njLou2uGwvRqlPrVhEACglhEh l3e2cYHiVQ7GZZa5vrQK/4w= =yX1J -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --nextPart1589806.Z6GbPrib05-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Dec 17 01:54:09 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DC76C16A41F for ; Sat, 17 Dec 2005 01:54:09 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from freebsd@sopwith.solgatos.com) Received: from schitzo.solgatos.com (c-67-168-241-176.hsd1.or.comcast.net [67.168.241.176]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EC4E343D5D for ; Sat, 17 Dec 2005 01:54:08 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from freebsd@sopwith.solgatos.com) Received: from sopwith.solgatos.com (uucp@localhost) by schitzo.solgatos.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with UUCP id jBH1sJ931919; Fri, 16 Dec 2005 17:54:19 -0800 Received: from localhost by sopwith.solgatos.com (8.8.8/6.24) id BAA26537; Sat, 17 Dec 2005 01:49:13 GMT Message-Id: <200512170149.BAA26537@sopwith.solgatos.com> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Fri, 16 Dec 2005 17:49:13 +0000 From: Dieter Cc: jerrymc@clunix.cl.msu.edu, martster@gmail.com Subject: Re: how to dual boot X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd@sopwith.solgatos.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 17 Dec 2005 01:54:10 -0000 > The only odd thing is if the FreeBSD MBR detects a bootable slice with > a filesystem type it does not know such as NTFS, it identifies it in > the menu as '???' rather than with a name. I'm triple-booting FreeBSD, NetBSD and that penguin thingy. NetBSD's fdisk(8) allows setting the menu labels to whatever string you want. (limited to ~8 chars due to limited space in the MBR) NetBSD's fdisk also automatically figures out how much space you have left as you add partitions (er, "slices" in FreeBSD-speak). On the other hand, if you want/need overlapping partitions/slices for some reason, FreeBSD's fdisk will do it and NetBSD's will not. (according to the man pages, I didn't try it) For even more user-programablilty, grub has some nice features. But doesn't fit in the MBR. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Dec 17 02:05:29 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3D97616A41F for ; Sat, 17 Dec 2005 02:05:29 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ringworm01@gmail.com) Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.207]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B4E3743D5D for ; Sat, 17 Dec 2005 02:05:28 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ringworm01@gmail.com) Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 8so745692nzo for ; Fri, 16 Dec 2005 18:05:28 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:from:to:subject:date:user-agent:cc:references:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:message-id; b=TosPPosCDoJJW/lpn9CmwNCSMlQ6UziLnun7RzkRl/htqkBMqoYlX0/b80Wk+WCOhKng7sk2zwhzZglt8TPyJDYur33GdqLkzfvuyV2h6olpO5rt+O6Fa48d99/3CdcCgH1NYTKDlIO4Y464KaM/inpCvDI40G8Kfjs+cre743E= Received: by 10.37.2.15 with SMTP id e15mr3547896nzi; Fri, 16 Dec 2005 18:05:28 -0800 (PST) Received: from ringworm.mechee.com ( [71.102.14.129]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id 23sm1425510nzn.2005.12.16.18.05.27; Fri, 16 Dec 2005 18:05:27 -0800 (PST) From: "Michael C. Shultz" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Fri, 16 Dec 2005 18:05:24 -0800 User-Agent: KMail/1.8.3 References: <000a01c60cb3$8aac6130$2401a8c0@XGISH> <43A35C7C.90909@cc.ece.ntua.gr> In-Reply-To: <43A35C7C.90909@cc.ece.ntua.gr> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200512161805.25390.ringworm01@gmail.com> Cc: Dimitris Tsamis Subject: Re: Passing make options to portmanager X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 17 Dec 2005 02:05:29 -0000 On Friday 16 December 2005 16:31, Dimitris Tsamis wrote: > I want to switch from portupgrade to portmanager, but I have a few > questions. > > First of all, how do I pass make options to portmanager? (like the -m > option for portupgrade). I often pass selected make options to > multimedia players to choose what formats will be supported. Place make options in either pkgtools.conf, pm-020.conf or /etc/make.conf, man portmanager explains how. There isn't a way to pass make options from portmanager's command line. > > Can someone verify that portmanager reads pkgtools.conf? You can see for yourself, run portmanager -u -ui, it will stop before upgrading the first port. As it collects initial information any make options found in either pm-020.conf or pkgtools.conf will be shown to the right of the port name. One caveat, you must have ruby and portupgrade installed or portmanager will ignore pkgtools.conf. > > Thanks for your time welcome -Mike From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Dec 17 02:10:29 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7C17516A426 for ; Sat, 17 Dec 2005 02:10:29 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from payne@magidesign.com) Received: from ciphertrust.net (delta.ciphertrust.com [216.235.158.34]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0EB0243D53 for ; Sat, 17 Dec 2005 02:10:28 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from payne@magidesign.com) Received: from ([10.40.36.17]) by mail0.ciphertrust.net with ESMTP id NEXGATE02.50793; Fri, 16 Dec 2005 21:09:59 -0500 Message-ID: <43A37377.8050507@magidesign.com> Date: Fri, 16 Dec 2005 21:09:59 -0500 From: Payne User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (Macintosh/20041206) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Jerry McAllister References: <200512170039.jBH0dTOK005583@clunix.cl.msu.edu> In-Reply-To: <200512170039.jBH0dTOK005583@clunix.cl.msu.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: how to dual boot X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 17 Dec 2005 02:10:29 -0000 Jerry McAllister wrote: >>I'm trying to get a dual boot system set up with FBSD 5.3 and Win XP sp1. >>First I installed FBSD using 15GB of the HD, then installed XP on the >>remaining 5GB. However now it boots up XP automatically. I can get back to >>the FBSD installer by booting from the 5.3 CD but what do I do to provide a >>choice of which to boot right on the HD? >> >> Well, you could try grub, but if you want a fact way of doing, it will cost. OS Selector from Acronis, or Boot Manager from PartitionMagic. OS Selector What you have to do is create a partition, about 100mb or 50mb and it must be FAT16/32, so if your windows partitions is fats, then you don't have to create the partition, but way it doesn't have to be first partition, just visible to OS Selector. Once you install it will read what OS'es you have install. It not a bad program because I have remove freebsd, for dragonfly and PC-BSD, and didn't have to anything just select the partition it was install on. Boot Manager is I remember install on the master boot record and has to be install from the windows partions. I don't like it because I have kill a computer or two with it. Grub has come a long way and there mail list and docs. But if you are newbie you might want to go the route of OS Selector. Just remember that when you install freebsd you not to select a boot manager. Now before I get flame, I have use the freebsd boot manager BUT only with freebsd. Payne From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Dec 17 03:39:29 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AFD0F16A41F for ; Sat, 17 Dec 2005 03:39:29 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from chris@xecu.net) Received: from mss2.myactv.net (mss2.myactv.net [24.89.0.27]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id AFBA743D55 for ; Sat, 17 Dec 2005 03:39:28 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from chris@xecu.net) Received: (qmail 12738 invoked from network); 17 Dec 2005 03:39:28 -0000 Received: from mss1.myactv.net (HELO ?192.168.1.86?) (24.89.0.26) by mss2.myactv.net with SMTP; 17 Dec 2005 03:39:27 -0000 Message-ID: <43A3886F.3050308@xecu.net> Date: Fri, 16 Dec 2005 22:39:27 -0500 From: Christopher McGee User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.6 (Windows/20050716) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <46101566D29D0545B46956D30185677E016751@IVCLONEXCH01.IVCAPITAL.COM> <43A36485.7090409@xecu.net> In-Reply-To: <43A36485.7090409@xecu.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: ntp problems (strata too high) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 17 Dec 2005 03:39:29 -0000 Christopher McGee wrote: > > > Svein Halvor Halvorsen wrote: > >> On 12/8/05, Michael Wynne wrote: >> >> >>> The information contained in this e-mail and its attachments ('the >>> information") is intended only for the use of the individual or entity >>> to whom it is addressed, is private and confidential, may be privileged >>> or otherwise protected by work product immunity or other legal rules. >>> Access to the information by anyone else is unauthorized. [...] >>> >> >> >> Then why would you send it to a public mailinglist, that's archived >> and propagated throughout the internet, and made available to anyone >> through search engines and the like? >> _______________________________________________ >> freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list >> http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions >> To unsubscribe, send any mail to >> "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" >> >> > I hate to reopen a dead thread, however, I'm having a very strange > problem I have 2 machines running ntpd. I just set this up and it is > not working. I don't think the ntpd servers are syncing properly and > ntpdate -b 192.168.1.2 doesn't work, it gives me a strata too high > with the -d flag. Here is my current config/output, this network is > not actually nat'd private ips so I changed the ips for security reasons: > > server1(192.168.1.2) > /etc/ntp.conf > server 0.pool.ntp.org > server 1.pool.ntp.org > server 2.pool.ntp.org > server pool.ntp.org > peer 192.168.1.3 > restrict 192.168.1.0 mask 255.255.255.0 nomodify notrap > logconfig =syncall +clockall +sysall > > ntpq -p output > remote refid st t when poll reach delay offset > jitter > ============================================================================== > > +195.216.80.207 195.216.80.206 2 u 283 512 37 109.803 > -230.38 62.815 > *ipd50ad048.spee 130.149.17.8 2 u 285 512 37 101.458 > -190.45 85.706 > +antares.speedne 217.11.227.68 3 u 285 512 37 137.773 > -192.71 85.431 > +cheddar.halon.o 129.240.64.3 3 u 282 512 37 76.770 > -276.95 62.389 > 192.168.1.3 .STEP. 16 u 1 128 0 0.000 0.000 > 4000.00 > > server2 (192.168.1.3) > /etc/ntp.conf > server 0.pool.ntp.org > server 1.pool.ntp.org > server 2.pool.ntp.org > server pool.ntp.org > peer 192.168.1.2 > restrict 192.168.1.0 mask 255.255.255.0 nomodify notrap > logconfig =syncall +clockall +sysall > > ntpq -p output > remote refid st t when poll reach delay offset > jitter > ============================================================================== > > zirkon.biophys. 134.99.128.80 2 u 71 128 7 94.189 -77.270 > 27.511 > oubliette.mctav .MSF. 1 u 70 128 7 98.417 -38.531 > 16.505 > antares.speedne 217.11.227.68 3 u 70 128 7 136.851 -53.314 > 27.989 > cteha.ulp.co.il 192.114.62.249 3 u 5 128 7 170.650 -52.706 > 17.982 > 192.168.1.2 .DROP. 16 u - 64 0 0.000 0.000 > 4000.00 > > Any help getting this to work will be appreciated. > > Chris > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" This has been resolved. I waslked away for about 7 hours and suddenly it works. It just resolved itself. Chris From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Dec 17 03:59:46 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1F57916A420 for ; Sat, 17 Dec 2005 03:59:46 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from akbeech@gmail.com) Received: from vfemail.net (miwi2dsl-a234.wi.tds.net [216.170.248.235]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4FBFE43D53 for ; Sat, 17 Dec 2005 03:59:43 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from akbeech@gmail.com) Received: (qmail 77720 invoked by uid 85); 17 Dec 2005 01:27:17 -0000 Received: from akbeech@gmail.com by mail.vfemail.net by uid 0 with qmail-scanner-1.16 (clamscan: 0.75.1. spamassassin: 2.63. Clear:. Processed in 1.488049 secs); 17 Dec 2005 01:27:17 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?192.168.2.84?) (alaska@vfemail.net@209.124.141.64) by miwi2dsl-a234.wi.tds.net with RC4-MD5 encrypted SMTP; 17 Dec 2005 01:27:16 -0000 From: Beecher Rintoul Organization: NorthWind Communications To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, playnet Date: Fri, 16 Dec 2005 16:26:59 -0900 User-Agent: KMail/1.8.3 References: <1514699837.20051217033702@mail333.com> In-Reply-To: <1514699837.20051217033702@mail333.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="nextPart1892290.z55ETOaPMr"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=pgp-sha1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <200512161627.13838.akbeech@gmail.com> Cc: Subject: Re: test X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 17 Dec 2005 03:59:46 -0000 --nextPart1892290.z55ETOaPMr Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline On Friday 16 December 2005 03:37 pm, Playnet wrote: > Hello FreeBSD, > > Subj... Please don't use this list to test. It's a waste of bandwidth and results i= n=20 thousands of unnecessary emails being sent worldwide. The proper list for this is: freebsd-test@freebsd.org Beech =2D-=20 =2D------------------------------------------------------------------------= =2D------------- Beech Rintoul - System Administrator - akbeech@gmail.com /"\ ASCII Ribbon Campaign | NorthWind Communications \ / - NO HTML/RTF in e-mail | 201 East 9th Avenue Ste.310 X - NO Word docs in e-mail | Anchorage, AK 99501 / \ - Please visit Alaska Paradise - http://akparadise.byethost33.com =2D------------------------------------------------------------------------= =2D------------- --nextPart1892290.z55ETOaPMr Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.2 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQBDo2lxVq19LUoGB+MRAreFAKCzzO86qVj/1ILeAA1xjiRNEqqdBwCfWsKI Lsj5i0f5yfW6eMIq70pS+Xo= =vb/v -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --nextPart1892290.z55ETOaPMr-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Dec 17 04:31:13 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6DC9D16A41F for ; Sat, 17 Dec 2005 04:31:13 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from kline@tao.thought.org) Received: from tao.thought.org (dsl231-043-140.sea1.dsl.speakeasy.net [216.231.43.140]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BD63143D49 for ; Sat, 17 Dec 2005 04:31:12 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from kline@tao.thought.org) Received: from tao.thought.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by tao.thought.org (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id jBH4VAni099369; Fri, 16 Dec 2005 20:31:10 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from kline@tao.thought.org) Received: (from kline@localhost) by tao.thought.org (8.13.1/8.13.1/Submit) id jBH4V8K5099347; Fri, 16 Dec 2005 20:31:08 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from kline) Date: Fri, 16 Dec 2005 20:31:07 -0800 From: Gary Kline To: Anish Mistry Message-ID: <20051217043107.GB61448@thought.org> References: <20051217010221.GA60469@thought.org> <200512162019.49001.mistry.7@osu.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <200512162019.49001.mistry.7@osu.edu> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i X-Organization: Thought Unlimited. Public service Unix since 1986. X-Of_Interest: Observing 19 years of service to the Unix community Cc: Gary Kline , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: HP ScanJet 4100c? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 17 Dec 2005 04:31:13 -0000 On Fri, Dec 16, 2005 at 08:19:21PM -0500, Anish Mistry wrote: > On Friday 16 December 2005 08:02 pm, Gary Kline wrote: > > Guys, is this my big opportunity or what! :-) > > > > A friend bought an HP ScanJet 4100c for $15. For unknoen > > reason, it does not work wsith W-XP, but might this work > > with FBSD? > > > > Otherwise, I'm looking for a scanner with OCR-ware. For > > either my W2K box or FBSD. I finally do have the book I'm > > aiming to scan; I don;t know what happened to my friend > > with the microfiche of this text. Zero reply. > > > > Is there anybody in the Western WA locale who'd be willing > > to lend me scanner with OCR software or tell me what to > > buy that works with FBSD. For $15, it's worth asking about. > > > Check out if sane supports it. I'm in a similar situation with a HP > Scanjet 6200C. The driver on the HP isn't actually a driver so the > scanner is useless in Windows. I booted into FreeBSD, kldload > uscanner, and started xsane, it worked perfectly. I haven't tried > the OCR part of xsane, but it should work. Whoa, the online sane docs say that 4100C is supported. The next obstacle is the USB jack. Even my 1999 test e-machine has a usb thing hidden somewhere in front. This box, tao, is a barebones box I built in 08/2001; so I'm sure it's got a usb port somewhere. Do I have to build it into the kernel or what? IOW, what's the deal with USB stuff? I've had enough headbanging with ye olden COM[1234] ports. But it's time to get my fingers wet. thanks! gary PS: FWIW: my friend said that something-OCR was built-in. -- Gary Kline kline@thought.org www.thought.org Public service Unix From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Dec 17 05:09:49 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2F71B16A41F for ; Sat, 17 Dec 2005 05:09:49 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) Received: from mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com (mail.web-strider.com [65.75.192.90]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AFEA343D4C for ; Sat, 17 Dec 2005 05:09:47 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) Received: from tedwin2k (nat-rtr.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [65.75.197.130]) by mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com (8.11.1/8.11.1) with SMTP id jBH5Cub25772; Fri, 16 Dec 2005 21:12:56 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) From: "Ted Mittelstaedt" To: Date: Fri, 16 Dec 2005 21:09:42 -0800 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.6604 (9.0.2911.0) In-Reply-To: <20051215194229.32536.qmail@web33301.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1506 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: RE: Polling For 100 mbps Connections? (Was Re: Freebsd Theme Song) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 17 Dec 2005 05:09:49 -0000 >-----Original Message----- >From: Danial Thom [mailto:danial_thom@yahoo.com] >Sent: Thursday, December 15, 2005 11:42 AM >To: Ted Mittelstaedt >Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org >Subject: RE: Polling For 100 mbps Connections? (Was Re: Freebsd Theme >Song) > > > > >--- Ted Mittelstaedt >wrote: > >> >> >> >-----Original Message----- >> >From: Danial Thom >> [mailto:danial_thom@yahoo.com] >> >Sent: Wednesday, December 14, 2005 11:14 AM >> >To: Ted Mittelstaedt; Drew Tomlinson >> >Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org >> >Subject: RE: Polling For 100 mbps Connections? >> (Was Re: Freebsd Theme >> >Song) >> > >> >> >> Well, if polling does no good for fxp, due >> to >> >> the >> >> hardware doing controlled interrupts, then >> why >> >> does >> >> the fxp driver even let you set it as an >> >> option? >> >> And why have many people who have enabled it >> on >> >> fxp seen an improvement? >> > >> >They haven't, freebsd accounting doesn't work >> >properly with polling enabled, and "they" >> don't >> >have the ability to "know" if they are getting >> >better performance, because "they", like you, >> >have no clue what they're doing. How about all >> >the idiots running MP with FreeBSD 4.x, when >> we >> >know its just a waste of time? "they" all >> think >> >they're getting worthwhile performance, >> because >> >"they" are clueless. >> > >> >> I would call them idiots if they are running MP >> under >> FreeBSD and assuming that they are getting >> better >> performance without actually testing for it. >> But >> if they are just running MP because they happen >> to be >> using an MP server, and they want to see if it >> will >> work or not, who cares? >> >> >Maybe its tunable because they guy who wrote >> the >> >driver made it a tunable? duh. I've yet to see >> >one credible, controlled test that shows >> polling >> >vs properly tuned interrupt-driven. >> > >> >> Hm, OK I believe that. As I recall I asked you >> earlier to >> post the test setup you used for your own tests >> "proving" that polling is worse, and you >> haven't >> done so yet. Now you are saying you have never >> seen >> a credible controlled test that shows polling >> vs >> interrupt-driven. So I guess either you were >> blind >> when you ran your own tests, or your own tests >> are not credible, controlled polling vs >> properly >> tuned interrupt-driven. As I have been saying >> all along. Now your agreeing with me. >> >> >The only advantage of polling is that it will >> >drop packets instead of going into livelock. >> The >> >disadvantage is that it will drop packets when >> >you have momentary bursts that would >> harmlessly >> >put the machine into livelock. Thats about it. >> > >> >> Ah, now I think suddenly I see what the chip on >> your >> shoulder is. You would rather have your router >> based >> on FreeBSD go into livelock while packets stack >> up, >> than drop anything. You tested the polling >> code and found >> that yipes, it drops packets. >> >> What may I ask do you think that a Cisco or >> other >> router does when you shove 10Mbt of traffic >> into it's >> Ethernet interface destined for a host behind a >> T1 that >> is plugged into the other end? (and no, >> source-quench >> is not the correct answer) >> >> I think the scenario of it being better to >> momentary go into >> livelock during an overload is only applicable >> to one scenario, >> where the 2 interfaces in the router are the >> same capacity. >> As in ethernet-to-ethernet routers. Most >> certainly not >> Ethernet-to-serial routers, like what most >> routers are >> that aren't on DSL lines. >> >> If you have a different understanding then >> please explain. > > >Yes, going into livelock for a moment is better >than dropping a bucket of packets. If your >machine is in constant livelock, then its too >slow and it doesn't matter whether you run >polling or interrupts; you need a new machine. > Duh, but that wasn't what I asked. You claim that dropping packets is terrible and routers shouldn't do it, and should go into momentary livelock to avoid it. I asked you what then about the scenario where one interface is slower than the other? How are you going to avoid dropping some packets then? >You also can't grasp the point that clock ticks >do more than just poll, you're forcing a LOT of >other stuff to get done a lot more often than >necessary. You also don't understand that polling >occurs MILLIONS of times per second on machines >that aren't loaded. The HZ setting is the minimum >number of polls per second. Its a perfect example >of using a setting without having any idea how it >works just because some idiot falsely claimed it >was better without really testing it. Well, your the idiot that's "falsely claiming it's worse without really testing it" so what's the difference? As I said before, your arguing theory. And the theory sometimes gets tripped up by what you think is a minor variable that shouldn't matter. You keep claiming the pro-polling people haven't tested, well you haven't tested either. It's just a big air-battle. >> >> >> >> >> I've read those datasheets as well and the >> >> thing I >> >> don't understand is that if you are pumping >> >> 100Mbt >> >> into an Etherexpress Pro/100 then if the >> card >> >> will >> >> not interrupt more than this throttled rate >> you >> >> keep >> >> talking about, then the card's interrupt >> >> throttling >> >> is going to limit the inbound bandwidth to >> >> below >> >> 100Mbt. >> > >> >Wrong again, Ted. It scares me that you >> consider >> >yourself knowlegable about this. You can >> process >> >#interrupts X ring_size packets; not one per >> >interrupt. You're only polling 1000x per >> second >> >(or whatever you have hz set to), so why do >> you >> >think that you have to interrupt for every >> packet >> >to do 100Mb/s? >> >> I never said anything about interrupting for >> every >> packet, did I? Of course not since I know what >> your talking about. > >You said that the throttled interrupts would keep >the controller from being able to do full >100Mb/s, which is wrong. So why don't you just >explain what you meant by that. > No, I said IF the card will not interrupt more than this throttled rate you keep talking about, then the card's interrupt throttling is going to limit the inbound bandwidth to below 100Mbt. This was to illustrate your assumptions about throttled interrupts don't have any logical basis in anything. I frankly don't believe that this throttled interrupt rate you keep talking about is anything more than a figment of your lively imagination. You have not one single time mentioned a chip number that this takes place with, you have not mentioned the manufacturer specifications that says this exists, nor CPU speed nor nothing. As I said, post the section out of the 82557 datasheet, along with the numbers from that sheet of what the chip can do, along with your explanation of what happens on a system with, let's say, a 2Ghz cpu clock. Show us by the numbers that not only is polling worse at low interrupt rates, but it's worse at high interrupt rates, with some math, not a bunch of hand-waving. >Your not knowledgable You are correct. I am not knowledgeable about how polling is worse than interrupt mode at high bandwidth rates. I am waiting for you to educate me with some mathematics. >or reasonable Ted. Wrong. You are making the accusation so the onus is on you to sustain them with some logic, not a bunch of testimonial followed by some theory, on hypothetical hardware that doesen't exist. >You just >want me to be wrong, so there's no sense arguing >religion. > No, I am ASSUMING that your wrong because you haven't supplied anything concrete or repeatable. I don't know if the pro-polling people are wrong or not - but lots of people seem happier with polling turned on so to me that counts enough so that if I was ever routing 100Mbt through 2 ethernet cards in a FreeBSD system, I would try it out, rather than dismissing it out of hand. Obviously if it didn't work then I'd turn it off. And as far as your assertions that the accouting is all RF'd with polling, sorry but I don't use the output of top to decide if a system has a problem, I judge by the amount of time that applications take to execute. >Why don't you ask Matt Dillon about interrupt >moderation vs polling, since I'm sure everyone >will agree that he's a lot smarter than you, if >you don't believe that I am. > OK, if your going to rely on Matt for backup, then start posting some links of his that say what your saying. Ted From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Dec 17 07:14:12 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 105A716A41F for ; Sat, 17 Dec 2005 07:14:12 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from james_mapson@umpquanet.com) Received: from ns.museum.rain.com (gw-ipinc.museum.rain.com [65.75.192.74]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7657C43D60 for ; Sat, 17 Dec 2005 07:14:11 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from james_mapson@umpquanet.com) Received: from ns.museum.rain.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ns.museum.rain.com (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id jBH7Cp4M000852 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-DSS-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Fri, 16 Dec 2005 23:12:51 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from james@umpquanet.com) Received: (from james@localhost) by ns.museum.rain.com (8.13.4/8.13.4/Submit) id jBH7Cewr000851; Fri, 16 Dec 2005 23:12:40 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from james) Date: Fri, 16 Dec 2005 23:12:39 -0800 From: James Long To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20051217071239.GA773@ns.museum.rain.com> References: <20051216120050.4C25816A420@hub.freebsd.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20051216120050.4C25816A420@hub.freebsd.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.11 X-Spam-Status: No, score=-100.8 required=5.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED, J_CHICKENPOX_51,USER_IN_WHITELIST autolearn=failed version=3.1.0 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.0 (2005-09-13) on ns.museum.rain.com Cc: smaginnity@ccw.vic.edu.au Subject: Re: Download the whole ports tree X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 17 Dec 2005 07:14:12 -0000 > Message: 20 > Date: Fri, 16 Dec 2005 02:01:37 -0500 > From: Kris Kennaway > Subject: Re: Download the whole ports tree > To: Simon Maginnity > Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > Message-ID: <20051216070137.GA55600@xor.obsecurity.org> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > On Fri, Dec 16, 2005 at 03:32:33PM +1100, Simon Maginnity wrote: > > Hi everyone, > > I have unlimited bandwidth for the next month or so and > > will not have access to the net again for a few month?s after January. What > > I would like to do is grab a copy of the whole freeBSD ports tree while I > > can, so I can just play with different programs and things at will on a test > > server. Really just for my own amusement. > > > > Is it possible to get a copy of the whole ports tree down if I have enough > > free space etc etc, or just a copy of one branch like www??? > > The ports tree is not all that large..are you asking about fetching > every port distfile? > > Kris Well, portupgrade -FRaN sounded promising, but upon further reflection, I suspect that would fetch only distfiles for those ports which are already installed, plus any new dependencies that are not yet installed. Perhaps we need a meta-port which includes _everything_ as a build dependency. Then you just fetch that. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Dec 17 07:17:07 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 11E9516A41F for ; Sat, 17 Dec 2005 07:17:07 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from james_mapson@umpquanet.com) Received: from ns.museum.rain.com (gw-ipinc.museum.rain.com [65.75.192.74]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 90B7443D49 for ; Sat, 17 Dec 2005 07:17:06 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from james_mapson@umpquanet.com) Received: from ns.museum.rain.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ns.museum.rain.com (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id jBH7H0ca000869 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-DSS-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Fri, 16 Dec 2005 23:17:00 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from james@umpquanet.com) Received: (from james@localhost) by ns.museum.rain.com (8.13.4/8.13.4/Submit) id jBH7H0cO000868; Fri, 16 Dec 2005 23:17:00 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from james) Date: Fri, 16 Dec 2005 23:17:00 -0800 From: James Long To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20051217071700.GB773@ns.museum.rain.com> References: <20051216120050.4C25816A420@hub.freebsd.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20051216120050.4C25816A420@hub.freebsd.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.11 X-Spam-Status: No, score=-100.8 required=5.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED, J_CHICKENPOX_32,USER_IN_WHITELIST autolearn=failed version=3.1.0 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.0 (2005-09-13) on ns.museum.rain.com Cc: hde@foobar-qux.org Subject: Re: shell script doesnot executing X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 17 Dec 2005 07:17:07 -0000 > Message: 24 > Date: Fri, 16 Dec 2005 01:51:22 -0600 > From: "Harley D. Eades III" > Subject: Re: shell script doesnot executing > To: Anirban Adhikary > Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > Message-ID: <1134719482.34653.30.camel@devilBSD.freeBSD> > Content-Type: text/plain > > On Fri, 2005-12-16 at 11:23 +0530, Anirban Adhikary wrote: > > Hi guys > > This is Anirban here. I have the problem again with the previous shell > > script.Which was > > Write a shell script that will check whether a server is up or not(on ping) > > & log the report to a file. > > > > I have tried to write the program in the following way > > > > #! /bin/sh > > echo -n "Enter the IP or Hostname of the Server" > > read host > > #echo $host > > ping -c2 $host &>file2 > > if [ $? = 0 ];then > The problem is you're checking the exit status of ping, even if the host > is down ping is exiting with a successful status. You need to use sed > or awk or something similiar to test for replys. That is false. ping exits with a true result code if at least one ICMP reply is received, false otherwise. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Dec 17 07:29:02 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 51FE216A41F for ; Sat, 17 Dec 2005 07:29:02 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from fun@thingy.apana.org.au) Received: from rutherford.zen.co.uk (rutherford.zen.co.uk [212.23.3.142]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D82EE43D60 for ; Sat, 17 Dec 2005 07:29:01 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from fun@thingy.apana.org.au) Received: from [82.71.1.109] (helo=[10.0.1.166]) by rutherford.zen.co.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1EnWV2-0007h4-H3 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sat, 17 Dec 2005 07:29:00 +0000 Message-ID: <43A3BE36.9050501@thingy.apana.org.au> Date: Sat, 17 Dec 2005 07:28:54 +0000 From: David Gerard User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.7 (X11/20051013) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <20051217010221.GA60469@thought.org> <200512162019.49001.mistry.7@osu.edu> <20051217043107.GB61448@thought.org> In-Reply-To: <20051217043107.GB61448@thought.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Originating-Rutherford-IP: [82.71.1.109] Subject: Re: HP ScanJet 4100c? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 17 Dec 2005 07:29:02 -0000 Gary Kline wrote: > On Fri, Dec 16, 2005 at 08:19:21PM -0500, Anish Mistry wrote: >>Check out if sane supports it. I'm in a similar situation with a HP >>Scanjet 6200C. The driver on the HP isn't actually a driver so the >>scanner is useless in Windows. I booted into FreeBSD, kldload >>uscanner, and started xsane, it worked perfectly. I haven't tried >>the OCR part of xsane, but it should work. > Whoa, the online sane docs say that 4100C is supported. The next > obstacle is the USB jack. Even my 1999 test e-machine has a usb > thing hidden somewhere in front. This box, tao, is a barebones > box I built in 08/2001; so I'm sure it's got a usb port > somewhere. If it doesn't have USB, you can buy a four-port USB 2.0 PCI card for a few bucks. We did this on all our PCs and the Mac, because it's just so much more convenient than messing about with USB hubs and a rat's nest of cables. > Do I have to build it into the kernel or what? IOW, what's the > deal with USB stuff? I've had enough headbanging with ye olden > COM[1234] ports. But it's time to get my fingers wet. USB Just Works in my experience. (And if you add a USB card, I've yet to have one that didn't Just Work either.) > PS: FWIW: my friend said that something-OCR was built-in. That I don't know about. There's a program called gocr, but I've never managed to beat it into working properly ... still, being able to do the scan itself is an excellent start, because in the worst case you can get the TIFFs to a machine that does have good OCR. - d. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Dec 17 07:37:16 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6883116A41F for ; Sat, 17 Dec 2005 07:37:16 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from mistry.7@osu.edu) Received: from mail.united-ware.com (am-productions.biz [69.61.164.22]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AE4F243D49 for ; Sat, 17 Dec 2005 07:37:15 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from mistry.7@osu.edu) Received: from [192.168.1.100] (am-productions.biz [69.61.164.22]) (authenticated bits=0) by mail.united-ware.com (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id jBH7eMRN038698 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5 bits=128 verify=NO); Sat, 17 Dec 2005 02:40:28 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from mistry.7@osu.edu) From: Anish Mistry To: Gary Kline Date: Sat, 17 Dec 2005 02:39:07 -0500 User-Agent: KMail/1.8.3 References: <20051217010221.GA60469@thought.org> <200512162019.49001.mistry.7@osu.edu> <20051217043107.GB61448@thought.org> In-Reply-To: <20051217043107.GB61448@thought.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="nextPart1176174.dGkPINbdOB"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=pgp-sha1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <200512170239.21203.mistry.7@osu.edu> X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.9 required=5.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,BAYES_20, J_CHICKENPOX_31,MYFREEBSD3 autolearn=failed version=3.1.0 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.0 (2005-09-13) on mail.united-ware.com X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV 0.87/1211/Fri Dec 16 17:51:35 2005 on mail.united-ware.com X-Virus-Status: Clean Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: HP ScanJet 4100c? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 17 Dec 2005 07:37:16 -0000 --nextPart1176174.dGkPINbdOB Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline On Friday 16 December 2005 11:31 pm, you wrote: > On Fri, Dec 16, 2005 at 08:19:21PM -0500, Anish Mistry wrote: > > On Friday 16 December 2005 08:02 pm, Gary Kline wrote: > > > Guys, is this my big opportunity or what! :-) > > > > > > A friend bought an HP ScanJet 4100c for $15. For unknoen > > > reason, it does not work wsith W-XP, but might this work > > > with FBSD? > > > > > > Otherwise, I'm looking for a scanner with OCR-ware. For > > > either my W2K box or FBSD. I finally do have the book I'm > > > aiming to scan; I don;t know what happened to my friend > > > with the microfiche of this text. Zero reply. > > > > > > Is there anybody in the Western WA locale who'd be willing > > > to lend me scanner with OCR software or tell me what to > > > buy that works with FBSD. For $15, it's worth asking about. > > > > Check out if sane supports it. I'm in a similar situation with a > > HP Scanjet 6200C. The driver on the HP isn't actually a driver > > so the scanner is useless in Windows. I booted into FreeBSD, > > kldload uscanner, and started xsane, it worked perfectly. I > > haven't tried the OCR part of xsane, but it should work. > > Whoa, the online sane docs say that 4100C is supported. The next > obstacle is the USB jack. Even my 1999 test e-machine has a usb > thing hidden somewhere in front. This box, tao, is a barebones > box I built in 08/2001; so I'm sure it's got a usb port > somewhere. > > Do I have to build it into the kernel or what? IOW, what's the > deal with USB stuff? I've had enough headbanging with ye olden > COM[1234] ports. But it's time to get my fingers wet. Depending on what version of FreeBSD you're running you might want to=20 build usb into the kernel. If you just run "kldload uscanner" it=20 should automatically load the usb kernel module, if it's not already=20 in the default kernel, which I think it may be. The usb stuff should=20 work fine as long as you don't have some funky chipset. 6.0-RELEASE=20 should have pretty good support for usb. =2D-=20 Anish Mistry --nextPart1176174.dGkPINbdOB Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.2 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQBDo8CpxqA5ziudZT0RAh81AKCP/Tfe/37hNJGxrh23sGEfiVAhQACfVJEv XKX89NaDy/eIEaLlF8RuIOo= =Y0YD -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --nextPart1176174.dGkPINbdOB-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Dec 17 07:54:33 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 871F916A41F for ; Sat, 17 Dec 2005 07:54:33 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from kris@obsecurity.org) Received: from elvis.mu.org (elvis.mu.org [192.203.228.196]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 34CB243D49 for ; Sat, 17 Dec 2005 07:54:33 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from kris@obsecurity.org) Received: from obsecurity.dyndns.org (elvis.mu.org [192.203.228.196]) by elvis.mu.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0B7ED1A3C20; Fri, 16 Dec 2005 23:54:33 -0800 (PST) Received: by obsecurity.dyndns.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 150FC51228; Sat, 17 Dec 2005 02:54:32 -0500 (EST) Date: Sat, 17 Dec 2005 02:54:31 -0500 From: Kris Kennaway To: James Long Message-ID: <20051217075431.GA31743@xor.obsecurity.org> References: <20051216120050.4C25816A420@hub.freebsd.org> <20051217071239.GA773@ns.museum.rain.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="WIyZ46R2i8wDzkSu" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20051217071239.GA773@ns.museum.rain.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Cc: smaginnity@ccw.vic.edu.au, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Download the whole ports tree X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 17 Dec 2005 07:54:33 -0000 --WIyZ46R2i8wDzkSu Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Fri, Dec 16, 2005 at 11:12:39PM -0800, James Long wrote: > > Message: 20 > > Date: Fri, 16 Dec 2005 02:01:37 -0500 > > From: Kris Kennaway > > Subject: Re: Download the whole ports tree > > To: Simon Maginnity > > Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > > Message-ID: <20051216070137.GA55600@xor.obsecurity.org> > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"us-ascii" > >=20 > > On Fri, Dec 16, 2005 at 03:32:33PM +1100, Simon Maginnity wrote: > > > Hi everyone, > > > I have unlimited bandwidth for the next month or = so and > > > will not have access to the net again for a few month?s after January= . What > > > I would like to do is grab a copy of the whole freeBSD ports tree whi= le I > > > can, so I can just play with different programs and things at will on= a test > > > server. Really just for my own amusement. > > >=20 > > > Is it possible to get a copy of the whole ports tree down if I have e= nough > > > free space etc etc, or just a copy of one branch like www??? > >=20 > > The ports tree is not all that large..are you asking about fetching > > every port distfile? > >=20 > > Kris >=20 > Well, >=20 > portupgrade -FRaN >=20 > sounded promising, but upon further reflection, I suspect that would > fetch only distfiles for those ports which are already installed, plus > any new dependencies that are not yet installed. >=20 > Perhaps we need a meta-port which includes _everything_ as a build > dependency. Then you just fetch that. Well, if you really think you want this, then just: cd /usr/ports make fetch Kris --WIyZ46R2i8wDzkSu Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.2 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFDo8Q3Wry0BWjoQKURAoizAJ9P1zhks0M3HYptV2+NnrB3N1DZVwCgm2U5 e4tPxBFvkJmHbDw/gpZNHFI= =bS+f -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --WIyZ46R2i8wDzkSu-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Dec 17 08:11:28 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A8ED016A41F for ; Sat, 17 Dec 2005 08:11:28 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from james_mapson@umpquanet.com) Received: from ns.museum.rain.com (gw-ipinc.museum.rain.com [65.75.192.74]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2BC5343D45 for ; Sat, 17 Dec 2005 08:11:28 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from james_mapson@umpquanet.com) Received: from ns.museum.rain.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ns.museum.rain.com (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id jBH8BPMq000903 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-DSS-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Sat, 17 Dec 2005 00:11:25 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from james@umpquanet.com) Received: (from james@localhost) by ns.museum.rain.com (8.13.4/8.13.4/Submit) id jBH8BPRH000902; Sat, 17 Dec 2005 00:11:25 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from james) Date: Sat, 17 Dec 2005 00:11:24 -0800 From: James Long To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20051217081124.GA776@ns.museum.rain.com> References: <20051217034005.1E92316A420@hub.freebsd.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20051217034005.1E92316A420@hub.freebsd.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.11 X-Spam-Status: No, score=-101.4 required=5.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED, USER_IN_WHITELIST autolearn=failed version=3.1.0 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.0 (2005-09-13) on ns.museum.rain.com Cc: bsdmail@gmail.com Subject: Re: Closing some open ports X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 17 Dec 2005 08:11:28 -0000 > Date: Fri, 16 Dec 2005 10:13:13 -0800 > From: BSD Mail > Subject: Closing some open ports > To: FreeBSD-questions@freebsd.org > Message-ID: > <8be663db0512161013n10cb8599sdcc0aefbd87c257@mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 > > All I want is to get rid > of this: > root smbd 709 21 tcp4 *:445 *:* > root smbd 709 22 tcp4 *:139 *:* > root nmbd 705 6 udp4 *:137 *:* > root nmbd 705 7 udp4 *:138 *:* Read your smb.conf file. In my (dated) smb.conf, it's "Interfaces" and "Bind Interfaces Only". From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Dec 17 08:21:34 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0422B16A41F for ; Sat, 17 Dec 2005 08:21:34 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from kline@tao.thought.org) Received: from tao.thought.org (dsl231-043-140.sea1.dsl.speakeasy.net [216.231.43.140]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 557CB43D45 for ; Sat, 17 Dec 2005 08:21:32 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from kline@tao.thought.org) Received: from tao.thought.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by tao.thought.org (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id jBH8LWno078481; Sat, 17 Dec 2005 00:21:32 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from kline@tao.thought.org) Received: (from kline@localhost) by tao.thought.org (8.13.1/8.13.1/Submit) id jBH8LVIJ078480; Sat, 17 Dec 2005 00:21:31 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from kline) Date: Sat, 17 Dec 2005 00:21:31 -0800 From: Gary Kline To: Anish Mistry Message-ID: <20051217082131.GA78299@thought.org> References: <20051217010221.GA60469@thought.org> <200512162019.49001.mistry.7@osu.edu> <20051217043107.GB61448@thought.org> <200512170239.21203.mistry.7@osu.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <200512170239.21203.mistry.7@osu.edu> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i X-Organization: Thought Unlimited. Public service Unix since 1986. X-Of_Interest: Observing 19 years of service to the Unix community Cc: Gary Kline , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: HP ScanJet 4100c? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 17 Dec 2005 08:21:34 -0000 On Sat, Dec 17, 2005 at 02:39:07AM -0500, Anish Mistry wrote: > On Friday 16 December 2005 11:31 pm, you wrote: > > On Fri, Dec 16, 2005 at 08:19:21PM -0500, Anish Mistry wrote: > > > On Friday 16 December 2005 08:02 pm, Gary Kline wrote: > > > > Do I have to build it into the kernel or what? IOW, what's the > > deal with USB stuff? I've had enough headbanging with ye olden > > COM[1234] ports. But it's time to get my fingers wet. > Depending on what version of FreeBSD you're running you might want to > build usb into the kernel. If you just run "kldload uscanner" it > should automatically load the usb kernel module, if it's not already > in the default kernel, which I think it may be. The usb stuff should > work fine as long as you don't have some funky chipset. 6.0-RELEASE > should have pretty good support for usb. > I just tried a "lkdload uscanner" on my ThinkPad running 5.4 and got kldload: can't load uscanner: File exists In the USB section in /boot/loader.conf, everything was set to NO. Which of these options should I switch to YES. ---This goes for my other FBSD servers too. I've never used anything usb so I'll check my KERNEL config files too. All my hardware is fairly standard. Intel, HP, whatever ThinkPad has, and whatever's on the USB 2.0 m'board on my just-shipped AMD system. I stick to the Keep It Simple Sir philosophy, so if I need to buy a USB board I well. Meanwhile, if you have any feedback about the /boot/loader.conf and KERNEL config files, I'd like to hear them. thanks! gary -- Gary Kline kline@thought.org www.thought.org Public service Unix From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Dec 17 09:50:50 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DCA7116A41F for ; Sat, 17 Dec 2005 09:50:50 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from legalois@acm.org) Received: from smtp6.wanadoo.fr (smtp6.wanadoo.fr [193.252.22.25]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6276B43D46 for ; Sat, 17 Dec 2005 09:50:50 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from legalois@acm.org) Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf0608.wanadoo.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 5AB8D1C0025A for ; Sat, 17 Dec 2005 10:50:49 +0100 (CET) Received: from [192.168.0.4] (ADijon-151-1-65-77.w83-196.abo.wanadoo.fr [83.196.23.77]) by mwinf0608.wanadoo.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id E92051C00254; Sat, 17 Dec 2005 10:50:48 +0100 (CET) X-ME-UUID: 20051217095048954.E92051C00254@mwinf0608.wanadoo.fr Message-ID: <43A3DD0D.9080706@acm.org> Date: Sat, 17 Dec 2005 10:40:29 +0100 From: legalois User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.7 (X11/20051210) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Josh Endries References: <43A2F7CE.2010603@endries.org> In-Reply-To: <43A2F7CE.2010603@endries.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Adding lines to /etc/rc.conf during sysinstall wihout being "REMOVED" X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 17 Dec 2005 09:50:51 -0000 Josh Endries wrote: > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA1 > > Does anyone know the correct way to add lines to rc.conf without > sysinstall commenting them out and prepending "REMOVED" to them, > during an automated install.cfg routine? Currently I have a pkg I > made that adds stuff like ntp.conf and rc.conf, but all the lines in > my custom rc.conf are removed after the script finishes. > > I looked through the code for sysinstall but didn't see any way to > disable this behavior (my C isn't very good). What would be the > correct way to do this? I'm now having my pkg install a rc.d script > which cat's >> /etc/rc.conf... > > Thanks, > Josh > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- > Version: GnuPG v1.4.2 (FreeBSD) > Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - http://enigmail.mozdev.org > > iD8DBQFDovfOV/+PyAj2L+IRAjzcAJ4lJm+8vIP3QLy/DmuxTB0b4APp1gCfbhI1 > waoWrsCORg3CiQMVToAFEaI= > =RlT3 > -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > > Put the settings you do not want changed in /etc./rc.conf.local Settings in /etc/rc.conf.local override those in /etc/rc.conf From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Dec 17 10:41:20 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2942516A41F for ; Sat, 17 Dec 2005 10:41:20 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from hampi@rootshell.be) Received: from mail12.bluewin.ch (mail12.bluewin.ch [195.186.19.61]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 85E3D43D55 for ; Sat, 17 Dec 2005 10:41:19 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from hampi@rootshell.be) Received: from twelvegates.homeip.net (83.79.191.90) by mail12.bluewin.ch (Bluewin 7.2.069.1) id 43926178002E346D for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sat, 17 Dec 2005 10:41:17 +0000 Received: from gicco.here (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by twelvegates.homeip.net (8.13.4/8.13.1) with ESMTP id jBHAfFcL001442 for ; Sat, 17 Dec 2005 11:41:15 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from hampi@rootshell.be) Received: (from idefix@localhost) by gicco.here (8.13.4/8.12.11/Submit) id jBHAfDMK001441 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sat, 17 Dec 2005 11:41:13 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from hampi@rootshell.be) X-Authentication-Warning: gicco.here: idefix set sender to hampi@rootshell.be using -f Date: Sat, 17 Dec 2005 11:41:13 +0100 From: Hanspeter Roth To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20051217104113.GA1409@twelvegates.homeip.net> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Subject: extended/logical slices X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 17 Dec 2005 10:41:20 -0000 Hello, FreeBSD 6 seems to recognize logical slices in extended ones. The appropriate entries /dev/ad0sN appear. At least this works with logical slices that contain VFAT or ext2fs. Just 'fdisk' doesn't list the logical slices. Is there a tool that can list these? -Hanspeter From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Dec 17 11:10:01 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0CC4816A41F for ; Sat, 17 Dec 2005 11:10:01 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from gojyo83@gmail.com) Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.192]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ED02C43D4C for ; Sat, 17 Dec 2005 11:09:59 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from gojyo83@gmail.com) Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id i31so793513wra for ; Sat, 17 Dec 2005 03:09:59 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type; b=EFuvDjoUT7sybceeOf6JJ9PdFx8yeKKuemW2x4jv/xReMCmaHS31zMHh23LptgLbgmBrg3EZGi8nDykr2iuxvaiewMj/8+JgpmQXVjH28B6ggeZh1kzVwsaYTfpeGWRySad+7l2V7yKYy/FQxGCx8O38uqdhlxgE8BroIeUW2Nc= Received: by 10.65.53.2 with SMTP id f2mr457411qbk; Sat, 17 Dec 2005 03:03:27 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.65.113.1 with HTTP; Sat, 17 Dec 2005 03:03:27 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: Date: Sat, 17 Dec 2005 12:03:27 +0100 From: Gojyo To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: syntax error X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 17 Dec 2005 11:10:01 -0000 While trying to install the php5-pcre port (called from the phpmyadmin port), I get this error: ... ./configure.lineno: 3204: Syntax error: word unexpected (expecting ")") =3D=3D=3D> Script "configure" failed unexpectedly. Please report the problem to ale@FreeBSD.org [maintainer] and attach the "/usr/ports/devel/php5-pcre/work/php-5.1.1/ext/pcre/config.log" including the output of the failure of your make command. Also, it might be a good idea t= o provide an overview of all packages installed on your system (e.g. an `ls /var/db/pkg`). *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/ports/devel/php5-pcre. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/ports/databases/phpmyadmin. ... I'm using Freebsd6.0 Release, and I've upgraded my ports tree about one wee= k ago. If some other info (like the config.log written above) are needed, please ask. Thanks! From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Dec 17 11:28:54 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F01FA16A41F for ; Sat, 17 Dec 2005 11:28:54 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) Received: from smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (imap.infracaninophile.co.uk [81.187.76.162]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 089C343D49 for ; Sat, 17 Dec 2005 11:28:53 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) Received: from [IPv6:::1] (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id jBHBQTBQ042150; Sat, 17 Dec 2005 11:26:30 GMT (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) Message-ID: <43A3F5E5.7000704@infracaninophile.co.uk> Date: Sat, 17 Dec 2005 11:26:29 +0000 From: Matthew Seaman Organization: Infracaninophile User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.7 (X11/20051204) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Gojyo References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-2.0.2 (smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk [IPv6:::1]); Sat, 17 Dec 2005 11:26:30 +0000 (GMT) X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV 0.87.1/1211/Fri Dec 16 22:51:35 2005 on happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk X-Virus-Status: Clean Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: syntax error X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 17 Dec 2005 11:28:55 -0000 Gojyo wrote: > While trying to install the php5-pcre port (called from the phpmyadmin > port), > I get this error: > > ... > ./configure.lineno: 3204: Syntax error: word unexpected (expecting ")") > ===> Script "configure" failed unexpectedly. > Please report the problem to ale@FreeBSD.org [maintainer] and attach the > "/usr/ports/devel/php5-pcre/work/php-5.1.1/ext/pcre/config.log" including > the > output of the failure of your make command. Also, it might be a good idea to > provide an overview of all packages installed on your system (e.g. an `ls > /var/db/pkg`). > *** Error code 1 > > Stop in /usr/ports/devel/php5-pcre. > *** Error code 1 > > Stop in /usr/ports/databases/phpmyadmin. > ... > > I'm using Freebsd6.0 Release, and I've upgraded my ports tree about one week > > ago. > If some other info (like the config.log written above) are needed, please > ask. > Thanks! Hmmm... I'd cvsup again and try with a fresher ports tree. There were quite a number of significant changes made to the tree to do with the update from php 5.0.5 to 5.1.1 -- I suspect you've just been caught by fallout from that. If the problem still occurs, please do as the error message suggests: send the config.log and all other relevant information you can find to the port maintainer. Cheers, Matthew -- Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. 7 Priory Courtyard Flat 3 PGP: http://www.infracaninophile.co.uk/pgpkey Ramsgate Kent, CT11 9PW From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Dec 17 12:01:35 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B819C16A41F for ; Sat, 17 Dec 2005 12:01:35 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from walkeraj@gmail.com) Received: from xproxy.gmail.com (xproxy.gmail.com [66.249.82.199]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D059F43D45 for ; Sat, 17 Dec 2005 12:01:34 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from walkeraj@gmail.com) Received: by xproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id s9so643393wxc for ; Sat, 17 Dec 2005 04:01:34 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; b=UsbCKT3bqxeQikRbJ+FTyXQjhsy2TaBir+2YJQMa4Gxe+E4nGRj0Z9cIRgDWTIqeOz9/riLcDiYkLf8cvTiXRzgTfExGnJeF8JG6EaSRcsJiBDbpRlHWonyKX3ZN/8JyElyBTjgDcuu0QtVtqEbqw6MjAKZgs/g7BImXltgeDl4= Received: by 10.70.129.5 with SMTP id b5mr2251271wxd; Sat, 17 Dec 2005 04:01:33 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.70.76.16 with HTTP; Sat, 17 Dec 2005 04:01:33 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <457e0a100512170401w62fe403es8593878b303700a4@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sat, 17 Dec 2005 03:01:33 -0900 From: Andrew Walker To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline Subject: CardBus problems. $PIR: ROUTE_INTERRUPT Failed. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 17 Dec 2005 12:01:35 -0000 Yeah, so I'm about to give up on this computer entirely and throw it away unless someone can even give me some sort of clue about what's going on here. I have installed FreeBSD 6.0 on my Thinkpad 380XD, but I cannot get networking to work, and I believe it is because there is a conflict with my cardbus initializing. The card is a Xircom RBEM58G-100, and is listed as supported under the dc driver. Here are the relavent messages from /var/log/messages: ---- cbb0: mem 0x20822000-0x20822fff at device 2.0 on pci0 cardbus0: on cbb0 cbb0: mem 0x20821000-0x20821fff at device 2.1 on pci0 cardbus0: on cbb1 $PIR: ROUTE_INTERRUPT failed. cbb: Unable to map IRQ... device_attach: cbb1 attach returned 12 ---- ...and then later... ---- unknown: can't assign resource (port) unknown: can't assign resource (irq) unknown: can't assign resource (port) unknown: can't assign resource (memory) unknown: can't assign resource (port) unknown: can't assign resource (port) unknown: can't assign resource (port) ---- I've sent this to this list before, and I've posted on the forums, but so far no response. Is this not the right mailing-list? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Dec 17 13:11:30 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 30B2016A41F for ; Sat, 17 Dec 2005 13:11:30 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from aksis@idea-anvil.net) Received: from www.idea-anvil.net (republicofarizona.net [63.226.12.96]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BE3CE43D45 for ; Sat, 17 Dec 2005 13:11:29 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from aksis@idea-anvil.net) Received: from mail.idea-anvil.net (vaio.idea-anvil.net [10.0.0.9]) by www.idea-anvil.net (8.13.3/8.13.3) with ESMTP id jBHDBS17005033 for ; Sat, 17 Dec 2005 06:11:28 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from aksis@idea-anvil.net) From: aksis Organization: idea-anvil.net To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Sat, 17 Dec 2005 06:11:23 -0700 User-Agent: KMail/1.8 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200512170611.25101.aksis@idea-anvil.net> Subject: change max username length X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 17 Dec 2005 13:11:30 -0000 Is there a simple was to change the max username length? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Dec 17 13:31:06 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BC90C16A41F for ; Sat, 17 Dec 2005 13:31:06 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from list-freebsd-2004@morbius.sent.com) Received: from out4.smtp.messagingengine.com (out4.smtp.messagingengine.com [66.111.4.28]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 74F9143D69 for ; Sat, 17 Dec 2005 13:31:04 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from list-freebsd-2004@morbius.sent.com) Received: from frontend1.internal (mysql-sessions.internal [10.202.2.149]) by frontend1.messagingengine.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 27A34D245FA for ; Sat, 17 Dec 2005 08:31:03 -0500 (EST) Received: from frontend2.messagingengine.com ([10.202.2.151]) by frontend1.internal (MEProxy); Sat, 17 Dec 2005 08:31:03 -0500 X-Sasl-enc: a0mtDMeNqsS+q1S4AvG2buwF6XtYG2xHEwZvt4bQkGl1 1134826262 Received: from gumby.localdomain (88-104-199-37.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com [88.104.199.37]) by frontend2.messagingengine.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8B48B571503 for ; Sat, 17 Dec 2005 08:31:02 -0500 (EST) From: RW To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Sat, 17 Dec 2005 13:30:59 +0000 User-Agent: KMail/1.8.3 References: <70063950512161331u294280cdl8bd552be9426752c@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <70063950512161331u294280cdl8bd552be9426752c@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200512171331.00881.list-freebsd-2004@morbius.sent.com> Subject: Re: how to dual boot X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 17 Dec 2005 13:31:06 -0000 On Friday 16 December 2005 21:31, Marty Landman wrote: > I'm trying to get a dual boot system set up with FBSD 5.3 and Win XP sp1. > First I installed FBSD using 15GB of the HD, then installed XP on the > remaining 5GB. However now it boots up XP automatically. I can get back to > the FBSD installer by booting from the 5.3 CD but what do I do to provide a > choice of which to boot right on the HD? Get the GAG bootloader, it's free, really easy to use and you can install it from ports or from many linux live CDs. What's really nice about it, is that it's all menu driven, and the complete setup menu is accessible from the boot screen. So a year from now you can tweak the boot delay or add a new OS without the risk of screwing up. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Dec 17 13:46:35 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0C24816A41F for ; Sat, 17 Dec 2005 13:46:35 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from freebsd-questions-local@be-well.ilk.org) Received: from mail2.sea5.speakeasy.net (mail2.sea5.speakeasy.net [69.17.117.4]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8AC2843D5A for ; Sat, 17 Dec 2005 13:46:34 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from freebsd-questions-local@be-well.ilk.org) Received: (qmail 9284 invoked from network); 17 Dec 2005 13:46:33 -0000 Received: from dsl092-078-145.bos1.dsl.speakeasy.net (HELO be-well.ilk.org) ([66.92.78.145]) (envelope-sender ) by mail2.sea5.speakeasy.net (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for ; 17 Dec 2005 13:46:33 -0000 Received: by be-well.ilk.org (Postfix, from userid 1147) id A134328420; Sat, 17 Dec 2005 08:46:32 -0500 (EST) Sender: lowell@be-well.ilk.org To: Sean Murphy References: <43A34D1B.8060105@calarts.edu> From: Lowell Gilbert Date: 17 Dec 2005 08:46:32 -0500 In-Reply-To: <43A34D1B.8060105@calarts.edu> Message-ID: <44slsrlttz.fsf@be-well.ilk.org> Lines: 26 User-Agent: Gnus/5.09 (Gnus v5.9.0) Emacs/21.3 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Random password generation X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 17 Dec 2005 13:46:35 -0000 Sean Murphy writes: > When creating user accounts with adduser you can have the system > generate a random password. > > Can you use a tool included in FreeBSD to change specific existing > users passwords with a random one such as the one in adduser? I've occasionally hacked something up along the lines of "(date;netstat;netstat -i)|gzip|uuencode foo|head|tail -1" and I suppose you could add something to remove unacceptable characters and bring pw(8) into the equation. > it would also be usefull to do this from a input file to do multiple users. > > The passwords I would need on the screen to give to the users. > > If not is there an open source one to do this? The makepasswd port is certainly more evolved than my hack. Scripting it with pw(8) can be an exercise for the moderately experienced system administrator... -- Lowell Gilbert, embedded/networking software engineer, Boston area http://be-well.ilk.org/~lowell/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Dec 17 14:43:04 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B134516A41F for ; Sat, 17 Dec 2005 14:43:04 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from cswiger@mac.com) Received: from pi.codefab.com (pi.codefab.com [199.103.21.227]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AF33B43D66 for ; Sat, 17 Dec 2005 14:43:03 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from cswiger@mac.com) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pi.codefab.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B31F05D67; Sat, 17 Dec 2005 09:43:02 -0500 (EST) Received: from pi.codefab.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (pi.codefab.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 58232-03; Sat, 17 Dec 2005 09:43:00 -0500 (EST) Received: from [192.168.1.3] (pool-68-161-122-227.ny325.east.verizon.net [68.161.122.227]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by pi.codefab.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C5CDE5D4E; Sat, 17 Dec 2005 09:42:59 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <43A423FD.6010104@mac.com> Date: Sat, 17 Dec 2005 09:43:09 -0500 From: Chuck Swiger Organization: The Courts of Chaos User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.7 (Windows/20050923) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Christopher McGee References: <46101566D29D0545B46956D30185677E016751@IVCLONEXCH01.IVCAPITAL.COM> <43A36485.7090409@xecu.net> In-Reply-To: <43A36485.7090409@xecu.net> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.93.0.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at codefab.com Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: ntp problems (strata too high) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 17 Dec 2005 14:43:04 -0000 Christopher McGee wrote: [ ... ] > I hate to reopen a dead thread, however, I'm having a very strange > problem I have 2 machines running ntpd. I just set this up and it is > not working. [ ... ] > 192.168.1.3 .STEP. 16 u 1 128 0 0.000 0.000 > 192.168.1.2 .DROP. 16 u - 64 0 0.000 0.000 When a machine is badly out of sync, it indicates this by setting it's stratum to an unbelievable level, so other NTP servers avoid depending on it until some time has passed and the server's time remains stable for a reasonable time period. This appears to be what is happening with the .DROP. and .STEP. refid's you've shown. Be patient, NTPD ought to sync up given a few hours... -- -Chuck From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Dec 17 15:07:11 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BE58316A41F for ; Sat, 17 Dec 2005 15:07:11 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from bazzoola@gmail.com) Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.204]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5953C43D49 for ; Sat, 17 Dec 2005 15:07:11 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from bazzoola@gmail.com) Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id z6so900087nzd for ; Sat, 17 Dec 2005 07:07:10 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:user-agent:x-accept-language:mime-version:to:subject:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=nFx6hs2da4JhXJpzbzed1FJ9lf3DuZtBe0mhzprVOrTmEE3pxgFMO+WL5oGPeCcl/1i3m3ndOw9AzeISKEIAmXTWklFz8oQmSBsg1Vn65UlvgA8mTfJyJUbhrSz4IRP2UX0uonjw2M9BvEaOG80msu6vudaZ6HTUybuqKXCKWzU= Received: by 10.36.252.34 with SMTP id z34mr4175531nzh; Sat, 17 Dec 2005 07:07:10 -0800 (PST) Received: from ?192.168.1.10? ( [35.11.210.75]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id 12sm3975515nzn.2005.12.17.07.07.10; Sat, 17 Dec 2005 07:07:10 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <43A429D1.2090309@gmail.com> Date: Sat, 17 Dec 2005 10:08:01 -0500 From: bazzoola User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.7 (Macintosh/20050923) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Recursive ACLs commands X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 17 Dec 2005 15:07:11 -0000 Greetings, I was just wondering if I can set or lists acls recursively on specific directories ? I couldn't find the usual '-R' option for setfacl Is there another way to do this? Thanks, bazzoola From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Dec 17 16:54:26 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ABDC416A41F for ; Sat, 17 Dec 2005 16:54:26 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from freebsd-questions-local@be-well.ilk.org) Received: from mail4.sea5.speakeasy.net (mail4.sea5.speakeasy.net [69.17.117.6]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 23A7B43D55 for ; Sat, 17 Dec 2005 16:54:26 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from freebsd-questions-local@be-well.ilk.org) Received: (qmail 24028 invoked from network); 17 Dec 2005 16:54:25 -0000 Received: from dsl092-078-145.bos1.dsl.speakeasy.net (HELO be-well.ilk.org) ([66.92.78.145]) (envelope-sender ) by mail4.sea5.speakeasy.net (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for ; 17 Dec 2005 16:54:25 -0000 Received: by be-well.ilk.org (Postfix, from userid 1147) id D47C728423; Sat, 17 Dec 2005 11:54:24 -0500 (EST) Sender: lowell@be-well.ilk.org To: aksis References: <200512170611.25101.aksis@idea-anvil.net> From: Lowell Gilbert Date: 17 Dec 2005 11:54:24 -0500 In-Reply-To: <200512170611.25101.aksis@idea-anvil.net> Message-ID: <447ja3y88v.fsf@be-well.ilk.org> Lines: 6 User-Agent: Gnus/5.09 (Gnus v5.9.0) Emacs/21.3 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: change max username length X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 17 Dec 2005 16:54:26 -0000 aksis writes: > Is there a simple was to change the max username length? Check the archives of this list; this has been discussed more than once in the last month. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Dec 17 16:55:02 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 66F2B16A420 for ; Sat, 17 Dec 2005 16:55:02 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from dmehler26@woh.rr.com) Received: from ms-smtp-04-eri0.ohiordc.rr.com (ms-smtp-04-smtplb.ohiordc.rr.com [65.24.5.138]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DC64943D46 for ; Sat, 17 Dec 2005 16:55:01 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from dmehler26@woh.rr.com) Received: from satellite (cpe-65-185-179-246.woh.res.rr.com [65.185.179.246]) by ms-smtp-04-eri0.ohiordc.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with SMTP id jBHGswHH028059 for ; Sat, 17 Dec 2005 11:54:58 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <001801c60329$7ce12470$6409a8c0@satellite> From: "Dave" To: Date: Sat, 17 Dec 2005 11:46:54 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2670 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2670 X-Virus-Scanned: Symantec AntiVirus Scan Engine Subject: webmail solution X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Dave List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 17 Dec 2005 16:55:02 -0000 Hello, I'm looking for experiences with a webmail solution. I want to use postfix as my mta and on a freebsd6 machine. The users who will be using the server probably would do better with a webmail package so they can get to it from anywhere. The box already has apache and php so i don't think that'll be an issue. One thing i'm uncertain is whether to offer direct pop/imap or their equivalent encrypted counterparts or just do it all through webmail. Experiences and recommendations welcome. Thanks. Dave. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Dec 17 17:00:06 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4F9A116A41F for ; Sat, 17 Dec 2005 17:00:06 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from list-freebsd-2004@morbius.sent.com) Received: from out4.smtp.messagingengine.com (out4.smtp.messagingengine.com [66.111.4.28]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B796B43D45 for ; Sat, 17 Dec 2005 17:00:03 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from list-freebsd-2004@morbius.sent.com) Received: from frontend1.internal (mysql-sessions.internal [10.202.2.149]) by frontend1.messagingengine.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 00013D24823 for ; Sat, 17 Dec 2005 12:00:01 -0500 (EST) Received: from frontend2.messagingengine.com ([10.202.2.151]) by frontend1.internal (MEProxy); Sat, 17 Dec 2005 12:00:02 -0500 X-Sasl-enc: WusPl4L6Z9XELBCCUadG8hmWHg5usb88l+yXSLD6NHyh 1134838800 Received: from gumby.localdomain (88-104-199-37.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com [88.104.199.37]) by frontend2.messagingengine.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D2AE757146A for ; Sat, 17 Dec 2005 11:59:59 -0500 (EST) From: RW To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Sat, 17 Dec 2005 16:59:57 +0000 User-Agent: KMail/1.8.3 References: <20051216120050.4C25816A420@hub.freebsd.org> <20051217071239.GA773@ns.museum.rain.com> <20051217075431.GA31743@xor.obsecurity.org> In-Reply-To: <20051217075431.GA31743@xor.obsecurity.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-6" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200512171659.58916.list-freebsd-2004@morbius.sent.com> Subject: Re: Download the whole ports tree X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 17 Dec 2005 17:00:06 -0000 On Saturday 17 December 2005 07:54, Kris Kennaway wrote: > Well, if you really think you want this, then just: > > cd /usr/ports > make fetch Just idle curiosity, but does anyone have a feeling for how much that would download? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Dec 17 17:03:17 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 86C7E16A41F for ; Sat, 17 Dec 2005 17:03:17 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from gabor.kovesdan@t-hosting.hu) Received: from server.t-hosting.hu (server.t-hosting.hu [217.20.133.7]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D82D343D5C for ; Sat, 17 Dec 2005 17:03:16 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from gabor.kovesdan@t-hosting.hu) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by server.t-hosting.hu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 51193998363; Sat, 17 Dec 2005 18:03:15 +0100 (CET) Received: from server.t-hosting.hu ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (server.t-hosting.hu [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 28960-02; Sat, 17 Dec 2005 18:03:12 +0100 (CET) Received: from [80.98.231.227] (catv-5062e7e3.catv.broadband.hu [80.98.231.227]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by server.t-hosting.hu (Postfix) with ESMTP id E9D5A998219; Sat, 17 Dec 2005 18:03:11 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <43A444D0.60409@t-hosting.hu> Date: Sat, 17 Dec 2005 18:03:12 +0100 From: =?UTF-8?B?S8O2dmVzZMOhbiBHw6Fib3I=?= User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.6 (Windows/20050716) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: RW References: <20051216120050.4C25816A420@hub.freebsd.org> <20051217071239.GA773@ns.museum.rain.com> <20051217075431.GA31743@xor.obsecurity.org> <200512171659.58916.list-freebsd-2004@morbius.sent.com> In-Reply-To: <200512171659.58916.list-freebsd-2004@morbius.sent.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at t-hosting.hu Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Download the whole ports tree X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 17 Dec 2005 17:03:17 -0000 RW wrote: >On Saturday 17 December 2005 07:54, Kris Kennaway wrote: > > >>Well, if you really think you want this, then just: >> >>cd /usr/ports >>make fetch >> >> > >Just idle curiosity, but does anyone have a feeling for how much that would >download? > > This would not fetch all of the distfiles, because there are broken ports that are unfetchable and the fetching would stop when reaching the first such port. Gabor Kovesdan From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Dec 17 17:10:38 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F03D916A41F for ; Sat, 17 Dec 2005 17:10:38 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ringworm01@gmail.com) Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.200]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2FA4143D58 for ; Sat, 17 Dec 2005 17:10:38 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ringworm01@gmail.com) Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id z6so920232nzd for ; Sat, 17 Dec 2005 09:10:37 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:from:to:subject:date:user-agent:cc:references:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:message-id; b=TqIdJQ2bvJz/N1xGUYiuAxx8DrildozU3fVUisXgF+nBk4yz4bIWbeyDi36Og0qfJgJAbMcGXRTpdNFnGm/S4rSe8pV6lgDkM9AbDWoLnNU/1U7ZeLNAcG3WvKFVoBIeZgG3ABhkaI6btWv62iaf3//V3OYIUofFclBbR0eL2a4= Received: by 10.36.121.2 with SMTP id t2mr4262496nzc; Sat, 17 Dec 2005 09:10:37 -0800 (PST) Received: from ringworm.mechee.com ( [71.102.14.129]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id 19sm6481628nzp.2005.12.17.09.10.36; Sat, 17 Dec 2005 09:10:37 -0800 (PST) From: "Michael C. Shultz" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Sat, 17 Dec 2005 09:10:31 -0800 User-Agent: KMail/1.8.3 References: <20051216120050.4C25816A420@hub.freebsd.org> <200512171659.58916.list-freebsd-2004@morbius.sent.com> <43A444D0.60409@t-hosting.hu> In-Reply-To: <43A444D0.60409@t-hosting.hu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200512170910.32947.ringworm01@gmail.com> Cc: =?utf-8?q?K=C3=B6vesd=C3=A1n_G=C3=A1bor?= , RW Subject: Re: Download the whole ports tree X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 17 Dec 2005 17:10:39 -0000 On Saturday 17 December 2005 09:03, K=C3=B6vesd=C3=A1n G=C3=A1bor wrote: > RW wrote: > >On Saturday 17 December 2005 07:54, Kris Kennaway wrote: > >>Well, if you really think you want this, then just: > >> > >>cd /usr/ports > >>make fetch > > > >Just idle curiosity, but does anyone have a feeling for how much that > > would download? > > This would not fetch all of the distfiles, because there are broken > ports that are unfetchable and the fetching would stop when reaching the > first such port. > > Gabor Kovesdan Even with: make fetch -i ? =2DMike From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Dec 17 17:13:07 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B362516A41F for ; Sat, 17 Dec 2005 17:13:07 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from gabor.kovesdan@t-hosting.hu) Received: from server.t-hosting.hu (server.t-hosting.hu [217.20.133.7]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C2E8F43D5A for ; Sat, 17 Dec 2005 17:12:55 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from gabor.kovesdan@t-hosting.hu) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by server.t-hosting.hu (Postfix) with ESMTP id E887F9983DD; Sat, 17 Dec 2005 18:12:54 +0100 (CET) Received: from server.t-hosting.hu ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (server.t-hosting.hu [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 29144-01-5; Sat, 17 Dec 2005 18:12:51 +0100 (CET) Received: from [80.98.231.227] (catv-5062e7e3.catv.broadband.hu [80.98.231.227]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by server.t-hosting.hu (Postfix) with ESMTP id AFBD49983BE; Sat, 17 Dec 2005 18:12:51 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <43A44714.7090200@t-hosting.hu> Date: Sat, 17 Dec 2005 18:12:52 +0100 From: =?UTF-8?B?S8O2dmVzZMOhbiBHw6Fib3I=?= User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.6 (Windows/20050716) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Michael C. Shultz" References: <20051216120050.4C25816A420@hub.freebsd.org> <200512171659.58916.list-freebsd-2004@morbius.sent.com> <43A444D0.60409@t-hosting.hu> <200512170910.32947.ringworm01@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <200512170910.32947.ringworm01@gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at t-hosting.hu Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, RW Subject: Re: Download the whole ports tree X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 17 Dec 2005 17:13:07 -0000 Michael C. Shultz wrote: >On Saturday 17 December 2005 09:03, Kövesdán Gábor wrote: > > >>RW wrote: >> >> >>>On Saturday 17 December 2005 07:54, Kris Kennaway wrote: >>> >>> >>>>Well, if you really think you want this, then just: >>>> >>>>cd /usr/ports >>>>make fetch >>>> >>>> >>>Just idle curiosity, but does anyone have a feeling for how much that >>>would download? >>> >>> >>This would not fetch all of the distfiles, because there are broken >>ports that are unfetchable and the fetching would stop when reaching the >>first such port. >> >>Gabor Kovesdan >> >> > >Even with: make fetch -i ? > >-Mike > > Haven't tried, but I suppose it would be okay with -i. Gabor Kovesdan From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Dec 17 17:32:29 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F420A16A41F for ; Sat, 17 Dec 2005 17:32:28 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from list-freebsd-2004@morbius.sent.com) Received: from out4.smtp.messagingengine.com (out4.smtp.messagingengine.com [66.111.4.28]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7048443D5F for ; Sat, 17 Dec 2005 17:32:28 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from list-freebsd-2004@morbius.sent.com) Received: from frontend1.internal (mysql-sessions.internal [10.202.2.149]) by frontend1.messagingengine.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 05A8DD24781 for ; Sat, 17 Dec 2005 12:32:27 -0500 (EST) Received: from frontend2.messagingengine.com ([10.202.2.151]) by frontend1.internal (MEProxy); Sat, 17 Dec 2005 12:32:27 -0500 X-Sasl-enc: nnGXeoHI94yB5xdJTjAEeyQO3SA+AXCp4cYOE9bYWrBS 1134840746 Received: from gumby.localdomain (88-104-199-37.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com [88.104.199.37]) by frontend2.messagingengine.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 315F357146D for ; Sat, 17 Dec 2005 12:32:26 -0500 (EST) From: RW To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Sat, 17 Dec 2005 17:32:24 +0000 User-Agent: KMail/1.8.3 References: <43A031B1.2030105@supsi.ch> <200512141829.36933.list-freebsd-2004@morbius.sent.com> <43A091C4.5010304@ywave.com> In-Reply-To: <43A091C4.5010304@ywave.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200512171732.25898.list-freebsd-2004@morbius.sent.com> Subject: Re: grub doesn't know ufs filesystem X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 17 Dec 2005 17:32:29 -0000 On Wednesday 14 December 2005 21:42, Micah wrote: > I used chainloading for a while until I wanted multiple installs of > FreeBSD on the same drive. Using chainloading from grub always booted > the first FreeBSD regardless of which slice was specified in menu.lst. > Changing it to use /boot/loader allowed me to actually have more than > one FreeBSD on the same drive. I pretty sure you did something wrong, I've chainloaded multiple FreeBSD slices on the same drive using Lilo and other bootloaders. > Also, grub places some files on a host filesystem. It may be more > convenient to have those files stored on UFS rather than FAT or EXT. > ... > In that case, if you use grub (rather than FreeBSD's manager), you'd > have to make a partition solely for grub. But is it a good idea for a bootloader to require external files at boot-time? I assume there are cases were grub does things that other loaders can't, but it seems to me that for most people booting FreeBSD it's an overcomplicated and awkward solution. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Dec 17 17:37:55 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 114C816A41F for ; Sat, 17 Dec 2005 17:37:55 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from sasa@stupar.homelinux.net) Received: from avs4.arnes.si (avs4.arnes.si [193.2.1.77]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1BA7343D5F for ; Sat, 17 Dec 2005 17:37:54 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from sasa@stupar.homelinux.net) Received: from localhost (avs4.arnes.si [193.2.1.77]) by avs4.arnes.si (Postfix) with ESMTP id A981A2C34F9; Sat, 17 Dec 2005 18:37:52 +0100 (CET) Received: from avs4.arnes.si ([193.2.1.77]) by localhost (avs4.arnes.si [193.2.1.77]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 71884-10; Sat, 17 Dec 2005 18:37:52 +0100 (CET) Received: from xmail.homelinux.net (cmb16-74.dial-up.arnes.si [194.249.51.74]) by avs4.arnes.si (Postfix) with ESMTP id F123A2C34E0; Sat, 17 Dec 2005 18:37:51 +0100 (CET) Received: from [192.168.10.249] (master.workgroup [192.168.10.249]) (authenticated bits=0) by xmail.homelinux.net (8.13.5/8.13.3) with ESMTP id jBHHbpvG001004; Sat, 17 Dec 2005 18:37:51 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from sasa@stupar.homelinux.net) Date: Sat, 17 Dec 2005 18:37:59 +0100 From: Sasa Stupar To: Dave , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <001801c60329$7ce12470$6409a8c0@satellite> References: <001801c60329$7ce12470$6409a8c0@satellite> X-Mailer: Mulberry/3.1.6 (Win32) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV version 0.87.1, clamav-milter version 0.87 on mig29.workgroup X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at arnes.si Cc: Subject: Re: webmail solution X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 17 Dec 2005 17:37:55 -0000 --On 17. december 2005 11:46 -0500 Dave wrote: > Hello, > I'm looking for experiences with a webmail solution. I want to use > postfix as my mta and on a freebsd6 machine. The users who will be using > the server probably would do better with a webmail package so they can > get to it from anywhere. The box already has apache and php so i don't > think that'll be an issue. One thing i'm uncertain is whether to offer > direct pop/imap or their equivalent encrypted counterparts or just do it > all through webmail. > Experiences and recommendations welcome. > Thanks. > Dave. > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" Squirrelmail is my choise. Works nice, easy to setup, a lot of plugins to add, etc. I use it with cyrus-imapd imap/pop3 server and sendmail as mta. -- Sasa Stupar From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Dec 17 17:40:37 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CDB4716A41F for ; Sat, 17 Dec 2005 17:40:37 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from gaynw@bristolsystems.com) Received: from fed1rmmtao07.cox.net (fed1rmmtao07.cox.net [68.230.241.32]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F171643D7E for ; Sat, 17 Dec 2005 17:40:28 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from gaynw@bristolsystems.com) Received: from workdog ([68.228.71.3]) by fed1rmmtao07.cox.net (InterMail vM.6.01.05.02 201-2131-123-102-20050715) with ESMTP id <20051217173948.KZO3131.fed1rmmtao07.cox.net@workdog>; Sat, 17 Dec 2005 12:39:48 -0500 From: "Gayn Winters" To: "'aksis'" Date: Sat, 17 Dec 2005 09:40:07 -0800 Message-ID: <074701c60330$ef0e4080$6501a8c0@workdog> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.4024 In-Reply-To: <447ja3y88v.fsf@be-well.ilk.org> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 Importance: Normal Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: RE: change max username length X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 17 Dec 2005 17:40:37 -0000 > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > [mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org] On Behalf Of > Lowell Gilbert > Sent: Saturday, December 17, 2005 8:54 AM > To: aksis > Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > Subject: Re: change max username length > > > aksis writes: > > > Is there a simple was to change the max username length? > > Check the archives of this list; this has been > discussed more than once in the last month. > _______________________________________________ >From man adduser: The user name is restricted to whatever pw(8) will accept. Generally this means it may contain only lowercase char- acters or digits. Maximum length is 16 characters. The reasons for this limit are historical. Given that people have tradition- ally wanted to break this limit for aesthetic reasons, it has never been of great importance to break such a basic fundamental parameter in UNIX. You can change UT_NAMESIZE in and recompile the world; people have done this and it works, but you will have problems with any precompiled programs, or source that assumes the 8-character name limit and NIS. The NIS protocol mandates an 8-character username. If you need a longer login name for e-mail addresses, you can define an alias in /etc/mail/aliases. Plus here's a pointer to one discussion. http://unix.derkeiler.com/Mailing-Lists/FreeBSD/questions/2005-04/1879.h tml Our only application for this is email, and aliases work fine. -gayn Bristol Systems Inc. 714/532-6776 www.bristolsystems.com From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Dec 17 17:54:59 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5198416A41F for ; Sat, 17 Dec 2005 17:54:59 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from dtsam@cc.ece.ntua.gr) Received: from mx-out-02.forthnet.gr (mx-out.forthnet.gr [193.92.150.6]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7B08A43D60 for ; Sat, 17 Dec 2005 17:54:58 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from dtsam@cc.ece.ntua.gr) Received: from mx-av-01.forthnet.gr (mx-av.forthnet.gr [193.92.150.27]) by mx-out-02.forthnet.gr (8.13.5/8.13.5) with ESMTP id jBHHsvuE024248; Sat, 17 Dec 2005 19:54:57 +0200 Received: from mx-in-03.forthnet.gr (mx-in-03.forthnet.gr [193.92.150.26]) by mx-av-01.forthnet.gr (8.13.5/8.13.5) with ESMTP id jBHHsufn027584; Sat, 17 Dec 2005 19:54:56 +0200 Received: from [192.168.254.1] (ppp19-adsl-213.ath.forthnet.gr [212.54.218.213]) by mx-in-03.forthnet.gr (8.13.5/8.13.5) with ESMTP id jBHHssoU009265; Sat, 17 Dec 2005 19:54:55 +0200 Authentication-Results: mx-in-03.forthnet.gr from=dtsam@cc.ece.ntua.gr; sender-id=neutral; spf=neutral Message-ID: <43A450EE.4090005@cc.ece.ntua.gr> Date: Sat, 17 Dec 2005 19:54:54 +0200 From: Dimitris Tsamis User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.7 (X11/20051208) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Michael C. Shultz" References: <000a01c60cb3$8aac6130$2401a8c0@XGISH> <43A35C7C.90909@cc.ece.ntua.gr> <200512161805.25390.ringworm01@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <200512161805.25390.ringworm01@gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Passing make options to portmanager X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 17 Dec 2005 17:54:59 -0000 Michael C. Shultz wrote: >On Friday 16 December 2005 16:31, Dimitris Tsamis wrote: > > >>I want to switch from portupgrade to portmanager, but I have a few >>questions. >> >>First of all, how do I pass make options to portmanager? (like the -m >>option for portupgrade). I often pass selected make options to >>multimedia players to choose what formats will be supported. >> >> > >Place make options in either pkgtools.conf, pm-020.conf or /etc/make.conf, >man portmanager explains how. There isn't a way to pass make options >from portmanager's command line. > > Thanks for clearing it up. >>Can someone verify that portmanager reads pkgtools.conf? >> >> > >You can see for yourself, run portmanager -u -ui, it will stop >before upgrading the first port. As it collects initial information >any make options found in either pm-020.conf or pkgtools.conf >will be shown to the right of the port name. One caveat, you >must have ruby and portupgrade installed or portmanager will >ignore pkgtools.conf. > > I prefer to use pkgtools.conf because from what I understand it is a system file, whereas pm-020.conf is only for portmanager (I have ruby and portupgrade installed). > > >>Thanks for your time >> >> > >welcome > >-Mike > > Thanks for your answer :) From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Dec 17 17:56:22 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2B2B816A420 for ; Sat, 17 Dec 2005 17:56:22 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from mistry.7@osu.edu) Received: from mail.united-ware.com (am-productions.biz [69.61.164.22]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 59D3743D5D for ; Sat, 17 Dec 2005 17:56:17 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from mistry.7@osu.edu) Received: from [192.168.1.100] (am-productions.biz [69.61.164.22]) (authenticated bits=0) by mail.united-ware.com (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id jBHHxRpQ072875 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5 bits=128 verify=NO); Sat, 17 Dec 2005 12:59:33 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from mistry.7@osu.edu) From: Anish Mistry To: Gary Kline Date: Sat, 17 Dec 2005 12:57:59 -0500 User-Agent: KMail/1.8.3 References: <20051217010221.GA60469@thought.org> <200512170239.21203.mistry.7@osu.edu> <20051217082131.GA78299@thought.org> In-Reply-To: <20051217082131.GA78299@thought.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="nextPart1189529.VO3nH7yC7R"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=pgp-sha1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <200512171258.23622.mistry.7@osu.edu> X-Spam-Status: No, score=-7.4 required=5.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,BAYES_00, MYFREEBSD3 autolearn=failed version=3.1.0 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.0 (2005-09-13) on mail.united-ware.com X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV 0.87/1211/Fri Dec 16 17:51:35 2005 on mail.united-ware.com X-Virus-Status: Clean Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: HP ScanJet 4100c? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 17 Dec 2005 17:56:22 -0000 --nextPart1189529.VO3nH7yC7R Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline On Saturday 17 December 2005 03:21 am, Gary Kline wrote: > On Sat, Dec 17, 2005 at 02:39:07AM -0500, Anish Mistry wrote: > > On Friday 16 December 2005 11:31 pm, you wrote: > > > On Fri, Dec 16, 2005 at 08:19:21PM -0500, Anish Mistry wrote: > > > > On Friday 16 December 2005 08:02 pm, Gary Kline wrote: > > > > > > Do I have to build it into the kernel or what? IOW, what's > > > the deal with USB stuff? I've had enough headbanging with ye > > > olden COM[1234] ports. But it's time to get my fingers wet. > > > > Depending on what version of FreeBSD you're running you might > > want to build usb into the kernel. If you just run "kldload > > uscanner" it should automatically load the usb kernel module, if > > it's not already in the default kernel, which I think it may be.=20 > > The usb stuff should work fine as long as you don't have some > > funky chipset. 6.0-RELEASE should have pretty good support for > > usb. > > I just tried a "lkdload uscanner" on my ThinkPad running 5.4 > and got This just means that it is already built into the kernel. Just plug=20 in the scanner and you should see uscanner0: some stuff appear on the=20 console. > > kldload: can't load uscanner: File exists > > In the USB section in /boot/loader.conf, everything was > set to NO. Which of these options should I switch to YES. > ---This goes for my other FBSD servers too. I've never > used anything usb so I'll check my KERNEL config files too. > > All my hardware is fairly standard. Intel, HP, whatever > ThinkPad has, and whatever's on the USB 2.0 m'board on my > just-shipped AMD system. I stick to the Keep It Simple Sir > philosophy, so if I need to buy a USB board I well. Meanwhile, > if you have any feedback about the /boot/loader.conf and > KERNEL config files, I'd like to hear them. > > thanks! > > gary =2D-=20 Anish Mistry --nextPart1189529.VO3nH7yC7R Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.2 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQBDpFG/xqA5ziudZT0RAix6AKDFjDGPn4j/GlK0sUwiFxUkBvWK3wCfV9+M UkMPwr/ElTV0s8s4ZBMz928= =fdfL -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --nextPart1189529.VO3nH7yC7R-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Dec 17 17:57:49 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7A61816A41F for ; Sat, 17 Dec 2005 17:57:49 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ringworm01@gmail.com) Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.206]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7D0A443D94 for ; Sat, 17 Dec 2005 17:57:34 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ringworm01@gmail.com) Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id i31so859471wra for ; Sat, 17 Dec 2005 09:57:31 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:from:to:subject:date:user-agent:cc:references:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:message-id; b=ScZTYm1FRW5YUcqGwSgYzNmqTiY7N60NS5FZk03pd+bt0HppZXDcQZYYQ+hwAzzmRJ9slCxL9a0QZewsdBIS9JRQqUIkLBbnLlEHzlZSftltLwNTg9Wz60eAXzzyS0EwiqK4bhiPOmyVSpuxpc1c8zPmgnf1Rc8JCI688msdB4A= Received: by 10.65.121.10 with SMTP id y10mr777944qbm; Sat, 17 Dec 2005 09:57:31 -0800 (PST) Received: from ringworm.mechee.com ( [71.102.14.129]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id e16sm1248628qba.2005.12.17.09.57.30; Sat, 17 Dec 2005 09:57:31 -0800 (PST) From: "Michael C. Shultz" To: Dimitris Tsamis Date: Sat, 17 Dec 2005 09:57:27 -0800 User-Agent: KMail/1.8.3 References: <000a01c60cb3$8aac6130$2401a8c0@XGISH> <200512161805.25390.ringworm01@gmail.com> <43A450EE.4090005@cc.ece.ntua.gr> In-Reply-To: <43A450EE.4090005@cc.ece.ntua.gr> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200512170957.28015.ringworm01@gmail.com> Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Passing make options to portmanager X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 17 Dec 2005 17:57:49 -0000 On Saturday 17 December 2005 09:54, Dimitris Tsamis wrote: > Michael C. Shultz wrote: > >On Friday 16 December 2005 16:31, Dimitris Tsamis wrote: > >>I want to switch from portupgrade to portmanager, but I have a few > >>questions. > >> > >>First of all, how do I pass make options to portmanager? (like the -m > >>option for portupgrade). I often pass selected make options to > >>multimedia players to choose what formats will be supported. > > > >Place make options in either pkgtools.conf, pm-020.conf or /etc/make.conf, > >man portmanager explains how. There isn't a way to pass make options > >from portmanager's command line. > > Thanks for clearing it up. > > >>Can someone verify that portmanager reads pkgtools.conf? > > > >You can see for yourself, run portmanager -u -ui, it will stop > >before upgrading the first port. As it collects initial information > >any make options found in either pm-020.conf or pkgtools.conf > >will be shown to the right of the port name. One caveat, you > >must have ruby and portupgrade installed or portmanager will > >ignore pkgtools.conf. > > I prefer to use pkgtools.conf because from what I understand it is a > system file, whereas pm-020.conf is only for portmanager (I have ruby > and portupgrade installed). > > >>Thanks for your time > > > >welcome > > > >-Mike > > Thanks for your answer :) Welcome -Mike From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Dec 17 18:05:00 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E25C316A41F for ; Sat, 17 Dec 2005 18:05:00 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from hde@daden.net) Received: from mail.ruder.net (216-166-252-178.dsl.peknil.grics.net [216.166.252.178]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2F10343D64 for ; Sat, 17 Dec 2005 18:04:59 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from hde@daden.net) Received: from 12.203.202.40 ([12.203.202.40]) by mail.ruder.net ([192.168.10.10]) with Microsoft Exchange Server HTTP-DAV ; Sat, 17 Dec 2005 18:04:58 +0000 Received: from devilBSD.freeBSD by mail.daden.net; 17 Dec 2005 12:04:58 -0600 From: "Harley D. Eades III" To: James Long In-Reply-To: <20051217071700.GB773@ns.museum.rain.com> References: <20051216120050.4C25816A420@hub.freebsd.org> <20051217071700.GB773@ns.museum.rain.com> Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Date: Sat, 17 Dec 2005 12:04:57 -0600 Message-Id: <1134842697.34653.64.camel@devilBSD.freeBSD> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.2.1.1 FreeBSD GNOME Team Port Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: shell script doesnot executing X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 17 Dec 2005 18:05:01 -0000 On Fri, 2005-12-16 at 23:17 -0800, James Long wrote: > > Message: 24 > > Date: Fri, 16 Dec 2005 01:51:22 -0600 > > From: "Harley D. Eades III" > > Subject: Re: shell script doesnot executing > > To: Anirban Adhikary > > Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > > Message-ID: <1134719482.34653.30.camel@devilBSD.freeBSD> > > Content-Type: text/plain > > > > On Fri, 2005-12-16 at 11:23 +0530, Anirban Adhikary wrote: > > > Hi guys > > > This is Anirban here. I have the problem again with the previous shell > > > script.Which was > > > Write a shell script that will check whether a server is up or not(on ping) > > > & log the report to a file. > > > > > > I have tried to write the program in the following way > > > > > > #! /bin/sh > > > echo -n "Enter the IP or Hostname of the Server" > > > read host > > > #echo $host > > > ping -c2 $host &>file2 > > > if [ $? = 0 ];then > > The problem is you're checking the exit status of ping, even if the host > > is down ping is exiting with a successful status. You need to use sed > > or awk or something similiar to test for replys. > > That is false. ping exits with a true result code if at least one > ICMP reply is received, false otherwise. Yup, if you read the entire thread, I openly admit that. http://docs.freebsd.org/cgi/getmsg.cgi?fetch=2178259+0 +current/freebsd-questions Cheers -- Harley -----BEGIN GEEK CODE BLOCK----- G: GCS-- d- a? C++++ B- E+++ W+++ N++ w--- X+++ b++ G e* r x+ z+++++ ------END GEEK CODE BLOCK------ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Dec 17 18:13:52 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5414216A420 for ; Sat, 17 Dec 2005 18:13:52 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from chip.gwyn@gmail.com) Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.205]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4266643D55 for ; Sat, 17 Dec 2005 18:13:51 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from chip.gwyn@gmail.com) Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id i31so863907wra for ; Sat, 17 Dec 2005 10:13:50 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=aUr2nt50wM36KX1Ue67Io0fhgTpXtnYJCDqYtOwJAxkPtxA6mXa5sVww7wLdPRrHEaN9oV7AC6lSRP2JVY+iWHuoYqtBWbBVQHeaVnUZPoanwTxLRWNs/1TeJ7lxJDvOdhUU2doErjfFdCtS8fuwrmN7odwEajDdBKu21vi3ZHQ= Received: by 10.64.131.17 with SMTP id e17mr810568qbd; Sat, 17 Dec 2005 09:08:32 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.64.142.10 with HTTP; Sat, 17 Dec 2005 09:08:32 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <64a8ad980512170908yd89752ds8ea7825d10deb6ef@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sat, 17 Dec 2005 12:08:32 -0500 From: chip To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <001801c60329$7ce12470$6409a8c0@satellite> MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <001801c60329$7ce12470$6409a8c0@satellite> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: Dave Subject: Re: webmail solution X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 17 Dec 2005 18:13:52 -0000 On 12/17/05, Dave wrote: > > Hello, > I'm looking for experiences with a webmail solution. I want to use > postfix as my mta and on a freebsd6 machine. The users who will be using > the > server probably would do better with a webmail package so they can get to > it > from anywhere. The box already has apache and php so i don't think that'l= l > be an issue. One thing i'm uncertain is whether to offer direct pop/imap > or > their equivalent encrypted counterparts or just do it all through webmail= . > Experiences and recommendations welcome. > Thanks. > Dave. > I've always had good luck with Squirrel Mail, www.squirrelmail.org. However, recently the webhost I use has started offering the IMP Webmail Client, http://www.horde.org/imp/. And I must say it's pretty nice. Most of what you will find is that these web based clients are simply interface to the imap/pop servers. That way is doesn't really mattter what you do under the hood. --chip Just my $.02, your mileage may vary, batteries not included, etc.... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Dec 17 18:14:51 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C7BDC16A420 for ; Sat, 17 Dec 2005 18:14:51 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from cswiger@mac.com) Received: from pi.codefab.com (pi.codefab.com [199.103.21.227]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AD3F643D7E for ; Sat, 17 Dec 2005 18:14:44 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from cswiger@mac.com) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pi.codefab.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8837D5E26; Sat, 17 Dec 2005 13:14:42 -0500 (EST) Received: from pi.codefab.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (pi.codefab.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 92726-06; Sat, 17 Dec 2005 13:14:40 -0500 (EST) Received: from [192.168.1.3] (pool-68-161-122-227.ny325.east.verizon.net [68.161.122.227]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by pi.codefab.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C90825C20; Sat, 17 Dec 2005 13:14:39 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <43A4559A.7050907@mac.com> Date: Sat, 17 Dec 2005 13:14:50 -0500 From: Chuck Swiger Organization: The Courts of Chaos User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.7 (Windows/20050923) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: RW References: <20051216120050.4C25816A420@hub.freebsd.org> <20051217071239.GA773@ns.museum.rain.com> <20051217075431.GA31743@xor.obsecurity.org> <200512171659.58916.list-freebsd-2004@morbius.sent.com> In-Reply-To: <200512171659.58916.list-freebsd-2004@morbius.sent.com> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.93.0.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-6 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at codefab.com Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Download the whole ports tree X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 17 Dec 2005 18:14:51 -0000 RW wrote: > On Saturday 17 December 2005 07:54, Kris Kennaway wrote: >> Well, if you really think you want this, then just: >> >> cd /usr/ports >> make fetch > > Just idle curiosity, but does anyone have a feeling for how much that would > download? Around 25 GB. -- -Chuck From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Dec 17 18:15:09 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 79AB916A44D for ; Sat, 17 Dec 2005 18:15:09 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from kris@obsecurity.org) Received: from elvis.mu.org (elvis.mu.org [192.203.228.196]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 48B4D43D80 for ; Sat, 17 Dec 2005 18:15:00 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from kris@obsecurity.org) Received: from obsecurity.dyndns.org (elvis.mu.org [192.203.228.196]) by elvis.mu.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ACF6A1A3C25; Sat, 17 Dec 2005 10:14:59 -0800 (PST) Received: by obsecurity.dyndns.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id BAED151558; Sat, 17 Dec 2005 13:14:58 -0500 (EST) Date: Sat, 17 Dec 2005 13:14:58 -0500 From: Kris Kennaway To: K??vesd??n G??bor Message-ID: <20051217181458.GA60736@xor.obsecurity.org> References: <20051216120050.4C25816A420@hub.freebsd.org> <20051217071239.GA773@ns.museum.rain.com> <20051217075431.GA31743@xor.obsecurity.org> <200512171659.58916.list-freebsd-2004@morbius.sent.com> <43A444D0.60409@t-hosting.hu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="W/nzBZO5zC0uMSeA" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <43A444D0.60409@t-hosting.hu> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, RW Subject: Re: Download the whole ports tree X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 17 Dec 2005 18:15:09 -0000 --W/nzBZO5zC0uMSeA Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sat, Dec 17, 2005 at 06:03:12PM +0100, K??vesd??n G??bor wrote: > RW wrote: >=20 > >On Saturday 17 December 2005 07:54, Kris Kennaway wrote: > >=20 > > > >>Well, if you really think you want this, then just: > >> > >>cd /usr/ports > >>make fetch > >> =20 > >> > > > >Just idle curiosity, but does anyone have a feeling for how much that=20 > >would download? > >=20 > > > This would not fetch all of the distfiles, because there are broken=20 > ports that are unfetchable and the fetching would stop when reaching the= =20 > first such port. Sorry, you're right - you want 'make -k fetch BATCH=3Dyes' (the variable is to avoid any interaction from things like config dialogs). You might be able to get away with using -j for concurrent fetches too, although there's a possibility of corrupting a distfile if two ports that share the same distfile fetch it at once. Kris --W/nzBZO5zC0uMSeA Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.2 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFDpFWiWry0BWjoQKURAsetAJwK4AfeNrxoZT8aeNPb3AIjWpmrkQCgiDhL My5a9Kx0xx96EEIUyncNrZI= =0qRK -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --W/nzBZO5zC0uMSeA-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Dec 17 18:15:57 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8EE6A16A41F for ; Sat, 17 Dec 2005 18:15:57 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from kris@obsecurity.org) Received: from elvis.mu.org (elvis.mu.org [192.203.228.196]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 55EA743D80 for ; Sat, 17 Dec 2005 18:15:40 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from kris@obsecurity.org) Received: from obsecurity.dyndns.org (elvis.mu.org [192.203.228.196]) by elvis.mu.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 39B0E1A3C1B; Sat, 17 Dec 2005 10:15:35 -0800 (PST) Received: by obsecurity.dyndns.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 799C252B7D; Sat, 17 Dec 2005 13:15:34 -0500 (EST) Date: Sat, 17 Dec 2005 13:15:34 -0500 From: Kris Kennaway To: RW Message-ID: <20051217181534.GB60736@xor.obsecurity.org> References: <20051216120050.4C25816A420@hub.freebsd.org> <20051217071239.GA773@ns.museum.rain.com> <20051217075431.GA31743@xor.obsecurity.org> <200512171659.58916.list-freebsd-2004@morbius.sent.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="MfFXiAuoTsnnDAfZ" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <200512171659.58916.list-freebsd-2004@morbius.sent.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Download the whole ports tree X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 17 Dec 2005 18:15:57 -0000 --MfFXiAuoTsnnDAfZ Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sat, Dec 17, 2005 at 04:59:57PM +0000, RW wrote: > On Saturday 17 December 2005 07:54, Kris Kennaway wrote: > > Well, if you really think you want this, then just: > > > > cd /usr/ports > > make fetch >=20 > Just idle curiosity, but does anyone have a feeling for how much that wou= ld=20 > download? On the order of 15GB or so. Kris --MfFXiAuoTsnnDAfZ Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.2 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFDpFXGWry0BWjoQKURAs4pAKDHARnc2nG73Qu0e22vMdb3FNOkSwCeKXFo zu4hTzUlz5QBBbrknZTruxQ= =Is9p -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --MfFXiAuoTsnnDAfZ-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Dec 17 19:02:58 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 643A516A41F for ; Sat, 17 Dec 2005 19:02:58 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from list-freebsd-2004@morbius.sent.com) Received: from out4.smtp.messagingengine.com (out4.smtp.messagingengine.com [66.111.4.28]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C3A7443D4C for ; Sat, 17 Dec 2005 19:02:57 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from list-freebsd-2004@morbius.sent.com) Received: from frontend1.internal (mysql-sessions.internal [10.202.2.149]) by frontend1.messagingengine.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6456AD249E8 for ; Sat, 17 Dec 2005 14:02:56 -0500 (EST) Received: from frontend2.messagingengine.com ([10.202.2.151]) by frontend1.internal (MEProxy); Sat, 17 Dec 2005 14:02:56 -0500 X-Sasl-enc: SKraGCxDOiuFV6BKG0cGnvvKoLjeGgo4DjQX18PyJpU3 1134846175 Received: from gumby.localdomain (88-104-199-37.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com [88.104.199.37]) by frontend2.messagingengine.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8B8C257145C for ; Sat, 17 Dec 2005 14:02:55 -0500 (EST) From: RW To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Sat, 17 Dec 2005 19:02:49 +0000 User-Agent: KMail/1.8.3 References: <000a01c60cb3$8aac6130$2401a8c0@XGISH> <200512161805.25390.ringworm01@gmail.com> <43A450EE.4090005@cc.ece.ntua.gr> In-Reply-To: <43A450EE.4090005@cc.ece.ntua.gr> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200512171902.50240.list-freebsd-2004@morbius.sent.com> Subject: Re: Passing make options to portmanager X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 17 Dec 2005 19:02:58 -0000 On Saturday 17 December 2005 17:54, Dimitris Tsamis wrote: > I prefer to use pkgtools.conf because from what I understand it is a > system file, whereas pm-020.conf is only for portmanager This is incorrect. pkgtools.conf is the configuration file for portupgrade and the other package-tools installed by the portupgrade port. Portmanager has recently aquired the ability to read pkgtools.conf, but it is not a system file, and it is not read by the ports system if you use the make targets directly. If you want to set options in a more general way, put them in make.conf, using "alternative configuration" method given on the portmanager man-page. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Dec 17 19:13:09 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 27BAE16A41F for ; Sat, 17 Dec 2005 19:13:09 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from gerard@seibercom.net) Received: from smtp4.suscom.net (smtp4.suscom.net [64.78.119.247]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E7DD643D45 for ; Sat, 17 Dec 2005 19:13:07 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from gerard@seibercom.net) Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by smtp4.suscom.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8292B15005E for ; Sat, 17 Dec 2005 14:13:06 -0500 (EST) Received: from smtp4.suscom.net ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (smtp4.suscom.net [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 07267-02-19 for ; Sat, 17 Dec 2005 14:13:02 -0500 (EST) Received: from seibercom.net (ip148.217.susc.suscom.net [216.45.217.148]) by smtp4.suscom.net (Postfix) with SMTP id 0145E150060 for ; Sat, 17 Dec 2005 14:13:01 -0500 (EST) Received: from [192.168.0.2] (//gerard [192.168.0.2]) by seibercom.net (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id jBHJD2ZF048044 for ; Sat, 17 Dec 2005 14:13:02 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from gerard@seibercom.net) Date: Sat, 17 Dec 2005 14:13:04 -0500 From: Gerard Seibert To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sender: gerard@seibercom.net Organization: Seibercom X-Face: "\j?x](l|]4p?-1Bf@!wN<&p=$.}^k-HgL}cJKbQZ3r#Ar]\%U(#6}'?<3s7%(%(gxJxxcR nSNPNr*/^~StawWU9KDJ-CT0k$f#@t2^K&BS_f|?ZV/.7Q Message-Id: <20051217141021.1B66.GERARD@seibercom.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Mailer: Becky! ver. 2.24.01 [en] X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at suscom.net Subject: Script Problem X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 17 Dec 2005 19:13:09 -0000 Using FreeBSD 5.4 Please do not laugh. I absolutely suck at writing scripts. Someday I might learn, but in the mean time, I need some assistance. I want to run a script from CRON that will check to see if MySQL is running, and if not, restart it. I have had a problem with MySQL shutting down unexpectedly. This is my first attempt at writing the script. #!/bin/sh if (`ps -wxuU mysql | grep -o mysqld_safe`) then echo "MySQL is Running" else /usr/local/etc/rc.d/mysql-server.sh restart echo "MySql Server is Restarted" fi That produces this output even though MySQL is running. A mysqld process already exists Stopping mysql. Waiting for PIDS: 47567, 47567. Starting mysql. MySql Server is Restarted If I stop MySQL and then run the script, I get this output. mysql not running? (check /var/db/mysql/seibercom.net.pid). Starting mysql. MySql Server is Restarted Obviously, I do not know what I am doing. Perhaps someone could help me with this. 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Portmanager has recently >aquired the ability to read pkgtools.conf, but it is not a system file, and >it is not read by the ports system if you use the make targets directly. > > > Ok, the name pkgtools is misleading - I thought it refered to pkg_add and family. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Dec 17 20:45:18 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4A57516A41F for ; Sat, 17 Dec 2005 20:45:18 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from kline@tao.thought.org) Received: from tao.thought.org (dsl231-043-140.sea1.dsl.speakeasy.net [216.231.43.140]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 283DD43D73 for ; Sat, 17 Dec 2005 20:45:11 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from kline@tao.thought.org) Received: from tao.thought.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by tao.thought.org (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id jBHKj88Q000524; Sat, 17 Dec 2005 12:45:08 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from kline@tao.thought.org) Received: (from kline@localhost) by tao.thought.org (8.13.1/8.13.1/Submit) id jBHKj8Mw000487; Sat, 17 Dec 2005 12:45:08 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from kline) Date: Sat, 17 Dec 2005 12:45:02 -0800 From: Gary Kline To: Anish Mistry Message-ID: <20051217204502.GA99264@thought.org> References: <20051217010221.GA60469@thought.org> <200512170239.21203.mistry.7@osu.edu> <20051217082131.GA78299@thought.org> <200512171258.23622.mistry.7@osu.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <200512171258.23622.mistry.7@osu.edu> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i X-Organization: Thought Unlimited. Public service Unix since 1986. X-Of_Interest: Observing 19 years of service to the Unix community Cc: Gary Kline , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: HP ScanJet 4100c? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 17 Dec 2005 20:45:18 -0000 On Sat, Dec 17, 2005 at 12:57:59PM -0500, Anish Mistry wrote: > On Saturday 17 December 2005 03:21 am, Gary Kline wrote: > > On Sat, Dec 17, 2005 at 02:39:07AM -0500, Anish Mistry wrote: > > > On Friday 16 December 2005 11:31 pm, you wrote: > > > > On Fri, Dec 16, 2005 at 08:19:21PM -0500, Anish Mistry wrote: > > > > > On Friday 16 December 2005 08:02 pm, Gary Kline wrote: > > > > > > > > I just tried a "lkdload uscanner" on my ThinkPad running 5.4 > > and got > This just means that it is already built into the kernel. Just plug > in the scanner and you should see uscanner0: some stuff appear on the > console. > > > > > kldload: can't load uscanner: File exists > > This seems strange: kldstat here shows that uscanner is loaded the kernel; on the laptop, kldstat doesn't show the kernel module. Maybe the 600E is too old or IBM didn't think about it. AAre there any 5.4 kernel wizards reading this who can suggest what to add to my KERNEL conf file for my l'top? tia, guys, gary -- Gary Kline kline@thought.org www.thought.org Public service Unix From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Dec 17 20:51:13 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3BC5616A41F for ; Sat, 17 Dec 2005 20:51:13 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) Received: from smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (imap.infracaninophile.co.uk [81.187.76.162]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A6BA243D86 for ; Sat, 17 Dec 2005 20:50:55 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) Received: from [IPv6:::1] (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id jBHKofcL070128 for ; Sat, 17 Dec 2005 20:50:41 GMT (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) Message-ID: <43A47A1B.6070203@infracaninophile.co.uk> Date: Sat, 17 Dec 2005 20:50:35 +0000 From: Matthew Seaman Organization: Infracaninophile User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.7 (X11/20051204) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <20051217141021.1B66.GERARD@seibercom.net> In-Reply-To: <20051217141021.1B66.GERARD@seibercom.net> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.93.0.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-ripemd160; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="------------enig85DA0BE801A6E7943D328300" X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-2.0.2 (smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk [IPv6:::1]); Sat, 17 Dec 2005 20:50:41 +0000 (GMT) X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV 0.87.1/1211/Fri Dec 16 22:51:35 2005 on happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.5 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_00,NO_RELAYS autolearn=ham version=3.1.0 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.0 (2005-09-13) on happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk Subject: Re: Script Problem X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 17 Dec 2005 20:51:13 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) --------------enig85DA0BE801A6E7943D328300 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Gerard Seibert wrote: > I want to run a script from CRON that will check to see if MySQL is > running, and if not, restart it. I have had a problem with MySQL > shutting down unexpectedly. > This is my first attempt at writing the script. > > #!/bin/sh > if (`ps -wxuU mysql | grep -o mysqld_safe`) > then > echo "MySQL is Running" > else > /usr/local/etc/rc.d/mysql-server.sh restart > echo "MySql Server is Restarted" > fi if tests the exit status of the commands it runs, so this would be a better way to code that: if ps -wxuU mysql | grep -o mysqld_safe >/dev/null 2>&1 ; then echo "MySQL is running" else /usr/local/etc/rc.d/mysql-server.sh restart && \ echo "MySQL restarted" fi However, grepping the process list is not the best way to find if a process is still running. Daemon processes generally have a pid file, and you can test that a process with that PID is running by using kill(1): if kill -0 $( cat /var/db/mysql/$( hostname ).pid ) ; then ... But then you usually have to worry about coping with the pid file being absent. However, since you're worrying about mysql, one of the best tools to find out if mysql is running is mysqladmin(1). Try running: mysqladmin ping (possible with a few more arguments to specify exactly how to contact the mysql server and what DB userid to use) as your test that the server is still alive. Note that if MySQL is crashing it may well leave database tables in a damaged state: automatically restarting mysql in that case isn't going to me very productive. mysqlcheck(1) is your friend in this situation. Your best strategy is really to work out why MySQL is crashing and take steps to stop it. It would be unusual for mysql to die without leaving some sort of clue in the error log (by default /var/db/mysql/`hostname`.err) and you can always turn on the query log (or the bin log, which is equivalent, but needs a separate program to display its contents in a readable form) to see exactly what was happening around the time of the crash. One big reason for MySQL to crash is incorrect sizing of various buffers and internal arrays. Another is if the process tries to grow beyond the maximum possible size -- 128MiB by default, but can be tuned by setting kern.maxdsiz in loader.conf or by eg. 'options MAXDSIZ=(1024UL*1024*1024)' in your kernel configuration. Cheers, Matthew -- Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. 7 Priory Courtyard Flat 3 PGP: http://www.infracaninophile.co.uk/pgpkey Ramsgate Kent, CT11 9PW --------------enig85DA0BE801A6E7943D328300 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.2 (FreeBSD) Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFDpHog8Mjk52CukIwRA3/PAJwKQ5Tbs1QPbhB+8HrXZDN9UG4NBACeJ4Mj oX7ouNYGVc3jsSl7cl9Pbg0= =X26f -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --------------enig85DA0BE801A6E7943D328300-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Dec 17 23:11:25 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A9AE916A41F for ; Sat, 17 Dec 2005 23:11:25 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from gibblertron@gmail.com) Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.204]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 37F6D43D5A for ; Sat, 17 Dec 2005 23:11:25 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from gibblertron@gmail.com) Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id i31so893004wra for ; Sat, 17 Dec 2005 15:11:24 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; b=GNEvcWFnYZw6675wF5AZ+Nvko5Hg0kUdtXDmElvJbMNZeCyUvbBHuXJq0qETqhHjnxlXbo4YaCDo+1dNjVa3JClqlJn890xh54h3+zgQLInvg6hamZJdbQqC0enXtz+R6SP5jQipXi7BKPb1chvSBJl7UR3153WLmJ0yvRQyb6s= Received: by 10.64.131.17 with SMTP id e17mr1164821qbd; Sat, 17 Dec 2005 15:11:24 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.64.150.18 with HTTP; Sat, 17 Dec 2005 15:11:24 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: Date: Sat, 17 Dec 2005 15:11:24 -0800 From: patrick To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline Subject: Device needed to manage several FreeBSD servers X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 17 Dec 2005 23:11:25 -0000 I have a bunch of FreeBSD servers to manage, and I'm wanting to find a device that lets you SSH/telnet in, and access the servers connected to it via serial cables. I know such a device exists, but it was a long time ago since I last saw one, and I'm not really sure what one of these would be called. Has anyone had any experience with such a device? Thanks, Patrick From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Dec 17 23:44:14 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 31E2E16A41F for ; Sat, 17 Dec 2005 23:44:14 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from pauls@utdallas.edu) Received: from mail.stovebolt.com (mail.stovebolt.com [66.221.101.248]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9006843D45 for ; Sat, 17 Dec 2005 23:44:13 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from pauls@utdallas.edu) Received: from [192.168.2.100] (adsl-66-137-148-194.dsl.rcsntx.swbell.net [66.137.148.194]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.stovebolt.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C1730114321 for ; Sat, 17 Dec 2005 17:43:23 -0600 (CST) Date: Sat, 17 Dec 2005 17:43:25 -0600 From: Paul Schmehl To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <20051217141021.1B66.GERARD@seibercom.net> References: <20051217141021.1B66.GERARD@seibercom.net> X-Mailer: Mulberry/4.0.0 (Mac OS X) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Subject: Re: Script Problem X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Paul Schmehl List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 17 Dec 2005 23:44:14 -0000 --On December 17, 2005 2:13:04 PM -0500 Gerard Seibert wrote: > Using FreeBSD 5.4 > > Please do not laugh. I absolutely suck at writing scripts. Someday I > might learn, but in the mean time, I need some assistance. > > I want to run a script from CRON that will check to see if MySQL is > running, and if not, restart it. I have had a problem with MySQL > shutting down unexpectedly. > > This is my first attempt at writing the script. > ># !/bin/sh > if (`ps -wxuU mysql | grep -o mysqld_safe`) > then > echo "MySQL is Running" > else > /usr/local/etc/rc.d/mysql-server.sh restart > echo "MySql Server is Restarted" > fi > The reason your script isn't doing what you want it to do is because you're using backticks in your if statement. Essentially what your script says is: if (please execute this command) then do this else do this fi Which is the same as saying: if () then do this else do this fi The script should be saying: if (this command is successful) then do this else do this fi Remove the backticks and it will work as expected. You use backticks when you want the results of a command to use somewhere else. For example: TESTING=`ps -wxuU mysql | grep -o mysqld_safe` if ( $TESTING ) When you want to test the logic of a script, use echo statements. That will tell you every loop and conditional statement's results without actually running anything that might cause problems for you. Once you're sure the conditional or loop is working as you expect, then you can add the actual commands. Paul Schmehl (pauls@utdallas.edu) Adjunct Information Security Officer University of Texas at Dallas AVIEN Founding Member http://www.utdallas.edu/