From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jun 26 00:26:17 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E640B16A41C for ; Sun, 26 Jun 2005 00:26:17 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from markir@paradise.net.nz) Received: from linda-5.paradise.net.nz (bm-5a.paradise.net.nz [202.0.58.24]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AA09543D53 for ; Sun, 26 Jun 2005 00:26:17 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from markir@paradise.net.nz) Received: from smtp-2.paradise.net.nz (smtp-2b.paradise.net.nz [202.0.32.211]) by linda-5.paradise.net.nz (Paradise.net.nz) with ESMTP id <0IIO00DQI17RSN@linda-5.paradise.net.nz> for freebsd-stable@freebsd.org; Sun, 26 Jun 2005 12:26:16 +1200 (NZST) Received: from [192.168.1.11] (218-101-14-7.paradise.net.nz [218.101.14.7]) by smtp-2.paradise.net.nz (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1DD99A008C; Sun, 26 Jun 2005 12:23:30 +1200 (NZST) Date: Sun, 26 Jun 2005 12:23:28 +1200 From: Mark Kirkwood In-reply-to: <200506252127.07387.doconnor@gsoft.com.au> To: Daniel O'Connor Message-id: <42BDF580.3040400@paradise.net.nz> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Accept-Language: en-us, en User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.2 (X11/20050511) References: <200506251540.50639.doconnor@gsoft.com.au> <200506251733.24574.doconnor@gsoft.com.au> <42BD30D3.4000203@paradise.net.nz> <200506252127.07387.doconnor@gsoft.com.au> Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: 5.4 Installer + Promise FT100TX2 = Loader crash X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 26 Jun 2005 00:26:18 -0000 Daniel O'Connor wrote: > > I find even disconnecting the drives so no RAID is detected works - ie it's > not the presence of the card per se that is a problem. > Good test - I had not tried that. In addition, I can confirm your observation that merely deleting the array makes the loader work reliably again. Cheers Mark From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jun 26 07:40:03 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D74B216A41C for ; Sun, 26 Jun 2005 07:40:03 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from user@sammy.erwo.net) Received: from sammy.erwo.net (erwo.net [213.146.115.142]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6409743D1D for ; Sun, 26 Jun 2005 07:40:02 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from user@sammy.erwo.net) Received: from user by sammy.erwo.net with local (Exim 4.43 (FreeBSD)) id 1DmRkG-0000XS-Cy for freebsd-stable@freebsd.org; Sun, 26 Jun 2005 09:40:00 +0200 Date: Sun, 26 Jun 2005 09:40:00 +0200 From: Wilhelm Greiner To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20050626074000.GA1554@sammy.erwo.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Sender: User User Subject: 5.4-STABLE #4 VMWare crash X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 26 Jun 2005 07:40:04 -0000 Hello, I try to start vmware from an user Account, new Version is compiled and i followed the Instructions in pkg-message. ACPI is disabled. When i run vmware i see the following via serial Line: linux(1677): sendsig(0x8083bdc, 11, 0xc1f63834, 30) linux(1676): real select returns 0 linux(1676): outgoing timeout (0/0) linux(1676): select_out -> 0 linux(1676): select(8, 0xbfbfe928, 0xbfbfe8a8, 0, 0xbfbfe89c) linux(1676): incoming timeout (1/0) linux(1678): stat64(/tmp/.vmware/user/1676, *) linux(1677): rt_sigprocmask(2, 0x81ed1ec, 0, 8) linux(1678): open(/dev/null, 0x10800, 0xbfbfaab4) linux(1678): open returns error 0 linux(1677): open(/dev/vmmon, 0x2, 0x0) kernel trap 12 with interrupts disabled Fatal trap 12: page fault while in kernel mode fault virtual address = 0x6c fault code = supervisor read, page not present instruction pointer = 0x8:0xc0651ab5 stack pointer = 0x10:0xd895e934 frame pointer = 0x10:0xd895e938 code segment = base 0x0, limit 0xfffff, type 0x1b = DPL 0, pres 1, def32 1, gran 1 processor eflags = resume, IOPL = 3 current process = 1677 (vmware-ui) [thread pid 1677 tid 100135 ] Stopped at turnstile_setowner+0xd: movl 0x6c(%ecx),%eax db> db> tr Tracing pid 1677 tid 100135 td 0xc1f63780 turnstile_setowner(c1f60800,0) at turnstile_setowner+0xd turnstile_wait(c1f60800,c1fea128,0) at turnstile_wait+0xb7 _mtx_lock_sleep(c1fea128,c1f63780,0,c203a603,18f) at _mtx_lock_sleep+0xad _mtx_lock_flags(c1fea128,0,c203a603,18f,c1ef9c7c) at _mtx_lock_flags+0x30 vmmon_clone(c1fcd100,3,c2169900,c1f63780,c2169944) at vmmon_clone+0x90 FreeBSD_Driver_Open(c1fcd100,3,2000,c1f63780,c203b020) at FreeBSD_Driver_Open+0x79 spec_open(d895ea58,d895eb14,c0694fd9,d895ea58,180) at spec_open+0x226 spec_vnoperate(d895ea58) at spec_vnoperate+0x13 vn_open_cred(d895ebbc,d895ecbc,0,c2203a80,8) at vn_open_cred+0x419 vn_open(d895ebbc,d895ecbc,0,8,0) at vn_open+0x1e kern_open(c1f63780,c1a6d400,1,3,0) at kern_open+0xe7 linux_open(c1f63780,d895ed04,3,12cf,3246) at linux_open+0x10d syscall(2f,2f,2f,81a7648,8199688) at syscall+0x2ab Xint0x80_syscall() at Xint0x80_syscall+0x1f --- syscall (5, Linux ELF, linux_open), eip = 0x284865a8, esp = 0xbfbfeb90, ebp = 0xbfbfebac --- db> Changes from the GENERIC KERNCONF are: options IPFIREWALL options IPFIREWALL_DEFAULT_TO_ACCEPT options IPDIVERT options DUMMYNET options IPFILTER options IPFILTER_LOG options IPSTEALTH options PERFMON options NETGRAPH options NETGRAPH_ETHER options NETGRAPH_SOCKET options NETGRAPH_PPPOE options VFS_AIO options HZ=1000 options NET_WITH_GIANT dmesg: Copyright (c) 1992-2005 The FreeBSD Project. Copyright (c) 1979, 1980, 1983, 1986, 1988, 1989, 1991, 1992, 1993, 1994 The Regents of the University of California. All rights reserved. FreeBSD 5.4-STABLE #0: Thu May 12 19:43:50 CEST 2005 root@sammy.erwo.net:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC MPTable: Timecounter "i8254" frequency 1193182 Hz quality 0 CPU: AMD Athlon(tm) XP 2600+ (1920.44-MHz 686-class CPU) Origin = "AuthenticAMD" Id = 0x6a0 Stepping = 0 Features=0x383fbff AMD Features=0xc0400000 real memory = 536805376 (511 MB) avail memory = 515743744 (491 MB) ioapic0: Assuming intbase of 0 ioapic0 irqs 0-23 on motherboard npx0: on motherboard npx0: INT 16 interface cpu0 on motherboard pcib0: pcibus 0 on motherboard pci0: on pcib0 agp0: mem 0xd0000000-0xd3ffffff at device 0.0 on pci0 pcib1: at device 1.0 on pci0 pci1: on pcib1 isab0: at device 2.0 on pci0 isa0: on isab0 atapci0: port 0xff00-0xff0f,0x376,0x170-0x177, 0x3f6,0x1f0-0x1f7 at device 2.5 on pci0 ata0: channel #0 on atapci0 ata1: channel #1 on atapci0 ohci0: mem 0xcefed000-0xcefedfff irq 20 at device 3.0 on pci0 usb0: OHCI version 1.0, legacy support usb0: on ohci0 usb0: USB revision 1.0 uhub0: SiS OHCI root hub, class 9/0, rev 1.00/1.00, addr 1 uhub0: 3 ports with 3 removable, self powered ohci1: mem 0xcefee000-0xcefeefff irq 21 at device 3.1 on pci0 usb1: OHCI version 1.0, legacy support usb1: on ohci1 usb1: USB revision 1.0 uhub1: SiS OHCI root hub, class 9/0, rev 1.00/1.00, addr 1 uhub1: 3 ports with 3 removable, self powered pci0: at device 3.2 (no driver attached) sis0: port 0xc800-0xc8ff mem 0xcefec000-0xcefecfff irq 19 at device 4.0 on pci0 miibus0: on sis0 rlphy0: on miibus0 rlphy0: 10baseT, 10baseT-FDX, 100baseTX, 100baseTX-FDX, auto sis0: Ethernet address: 00:0b:6a:4c:f5:71 pci0: at device 9.0 (no driver attached) pci0: at device 10.0 (no driver attached) fxp0: port 0xc000-0xc03f mem 0xcee00000- 0xceefffff,0xcefeb000-0xcefebfff irq 19 at device 11.0 on pci0 miibus1: on fxp0 inphy0: on miibus1 inphy0: 10baseT, 10baseT-FDX, 100baseTX, 100baseTX-FDX, auto fxp0: Ethernet address: 00:90:27:75:68:0b atapci1: port 0xac00- 0xacff,0xb000-0xb003,0xb400-0xb407,0xb800-0xb803,0xbc00-0xbc07 irq 16 at device 12.0 on pci0 ata2: channel #0 on atapci1 ata3: channel #1 on atapci1 atapci2: port 0xcc00- 0xccff,0xd000-0xd003,0xd400-0xd407,0xd800-0xd803,0xdc00-0xdc07 irq 16 at device 12.1 on pci0 ata4: channel #0 on atapci2 ata5: channel #1 on atapci2 pcib2: at device 13.0 on pci0 pci3: on pcib2 de0: port 0x6c00-0x6c7f mem 0xcdafff80- 0xcdafffff irq 17 at device 4.0 on pci3 de0: Cogent EM440TX 21140A [10-100Mb/s] pass 2.2 de0: Ethernet address: 00:00:d1:1d:d4:b8 de0: if_start running deferred for Giant de1: port 0x6800-0x687f mem 0xcdafff00- 0xcdafff7f irq 18 at device 5.0 on pci3 de1: Cogent EM440TX 21140A [10-100Mb/s] pass 2.2 de1: Ethernet address: 00:00:d1:1d:d4:b9 de1: if_start running deferred for Giant de2: port 0x6400-0x647f mem 0xcdaffe80- 0xcdaffeff irq 19 at device 6.0 on pci3 de2: Cogent EM440TX 21140A [10-100Mb/s] pass 2.2 de2: Ethernet address: 00:00:d1:1d:d4:ba de2: if_start running deferred for Giant orm0: at iomem 0xc0000-0xc7fff on isa0 pmtimer0 on isa0 atkbdc0: at port 0x64,0x60 on isa0 atkbd0: irq 1 on atkbdc0 kbd0 at atkbd0 ppc0: at port 0x378-0x37f irq 7 on isa0 ppc0: SMC-like chipset (ECP/EPP/PS2/NIBBLE) in COMPATIBLE mode ppc0: FIFO with 16/16/9 bytes threshold ppbus0: on ppc0 plip0: on ppbus0 lpt0: on ppbus0 lpt0: Interrupt-driven port ppi0: on ppbus0 sc0: at flags 0x100 on isa0 sc0: VGA <16 virtual consoles, flags=0x100> sio0 at port 0x3f8-0x3ff irq 4 flags 0x10 on isa0 sio0: type 16550A, console sio1: configured irq 3 not in bitmap of probed irqs 0 sio1: port may not be enabled vga0: at port 0x3c0-0x3df iomem 0xa0000-0xbffff on isa0 unknown: can't assign resources (port) unknown: can't assign resources (port) unknown: can't assign resources (port) ulpt0: Hewlett-Packard hp LaserJet 1010, rev 1.10/1.00, addr 2, iclass 7/1 ulpt0: using bi-directional mode Timecounter "TSC" frequency 1920442354 Hz quality 800 Timecounters tick every 10.000 msec ad0: 114498MB [232632/16/63] at ata0-master UDMA100 ad1: 8809MB [17898/16/63] at ata0-slave UDMA66 ad4: 114473MB [232581/16/63] at ata2-master UDMA133 ad6: 114473MB [232581/16/63] at ata3-master UDMA133 ar0: 114473MB [14593/255/63] status: READY subdisks: disk0 READY on ad6 at ata3-master disk1 READY on ad4 at ata2-master with best regards, Wilhelm Greiner From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jun 26 08:05:16 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B3CDB16A41C for ; Sun, 26 Jun 2005 08:05:16 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from quetzal@viking.zone3000.net) Received: from aviti.net (aviti.net [217.144.68.1]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5DF4543D55 for ; Sun, 26 Jun 2005 08:05:16 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from quetzal@viking.zone3000.net) Received: from zone3000.kharkov.ua ([217.144.68.98] helo=adserver.zone3000.net) by aviti.net with esmtp (Exim 4.30; FreeBSD) id 1DmS8f-000971-EA for freebsd-stable@freebsd.org; Sun, 26 Jun 2005 11:05:13 +0300 Received: from viking.zone3000.net ([10.1.1.52]) by adserver.zone3000.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.6713); Sun, 26 Jun 2005 11:05:12 +0300 Received: from viking.zone3000.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by viking.zone3000.net (8.13.3/8.13.3) with ESMTP id j5Q85Hl1001764 for ; Sun, 26 Jun 2005 11:05:18 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from quetzal@viking.zone3000.net) Received: (from quetzal@localhost) by viking.zone3000.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/Submit) id j5Q85HWO001763 for freebsd-stable@freebsd.org; Sun, 26 Jun 2005 11:05:17 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from quetzal) Date: Sun, 26 Jun 2005 11:05:17 +0300 From: Nikolay Pavlov To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20050626080517.GA1727@zone3000.net> Mail-Followup-To: Nikolay Pavlov , freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i X-OriginalArrivalTime: 26 Jun 2005 08:05:12.0708 (UTC) FILETIME=[C75D3440:01C57A25] Subject: syslogd: Logging subprocess ... exited with status 126 X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 26 Jun 2005 08:05:16 -0000 Hi, all. I have an error when try to use pipes with syslog to log queries from bind. There is a very simple configuration: /etc/namedb/named.conf: ===================CUT======================= logging { channel query_log { syslog local3; severity info; print-category yes; print-time yes; }; category queries { query_log; }; }; ===================CUT======================= # mkfifo /var/run/nmd.log /etc/syslog.conf: ===================CUT======================= local3.info | /var/run/nmd.log ===================CUT======================= After that I just dig something: dig @localhost google.com And get this errors: syslogd: Logging subprocess s 1358 ( /var/run/nmd.log) exited with status 126. et cetera.... When i use file instead of pipe it's logging just fine. Best regards, Nikolay Pavlov. From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jun 26 08:14:02 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 43A4516A41C for ; Sun, 26 Jun 2005 08:14:02 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from christias@gmail.com) Received: from rproxy.gmail.com (rproxy.gmail.com [64.233.170.207]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F2DE343D5C for ; Sun, 26 Jun 2005 08:14:01 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from christias@gmail.com) Received: by rproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id i8so696639rne for ; Sun, 26 Jun 2005 01:14:01 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:cc:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; b=ONGbjpUsJH/1tFoDRLtsV8bUKicFrHw6/W9BB/vsGK/ZzMIWwLnZ/KU8/Z580946fkxuSmLjfRjQgThZhMHHOfFz5+Gx09vnFnL1pXrYico77zjZ/SCny9QpRx8B3apaE+ZJYL+JIMIf6ZlgEjThC40pCeYwupzXPqkybxeNE0w= Received: by 10.38.78.53 with SMTP id a53mr2095517rnb; Sun, 26 Jun 2005 01:14:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.38.78.72 with HTTP; Sun, 26 Jun 2005 01:14:01 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Sun, 26 Jun 2005 11:14:01 +0300 From: Panagiotis Christias To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline Cc: freebsd-scsi@freebsd.org Subject: Strange SCSI behavior after upgrading from 5.2.1 to 5.4 (and a panic) X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Panagiotis Christias List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 26 Jun 2005 08:14:02 -0000 Hello, on Thurday we upgraded one of our last 5.2.1 servers to 5.4. Tonight the server panicked, crashed and I had to power it off and on. Here are the logs before the panic: Jun 26 03:45:50 patroklos kernel: (da0:ahc0:0:0:0): lost device Jun 26 03:45:50 patroklos kernel: (da0:ahc0:0:0:0): Invalidating pack Jun 26 03:46:00 patroklos last message repeated 2 times Jun 26 03:46:06 patroklos kernel: initiate_write_filepage: already started Jun 26 03:46:07 patroklos last message repeated 9 times Jun 26 03:46:07 patroklos kernel: (da0:ahc0:0:0:0): READ(10). CDB: 28 0 72 f 16 0 0 0 80 0 Jun 26 03:46:07 patroklos kernel: (da0:ahc0:0:0:0): CAM Status: SCSI Status Error Jun 26 03:46:07 patroklos kernel: (da0:ahc0:0:0:0): SCSI Status: Check Cond= ition Jun 26 03:46:07 patroklos kernel: (da0:ahc0:0:0:0): UNIT ATTENTION asc:29,0 Jun 26 03:46:07 patroklos kernel: (da0:ahc0:0:0:0): Power on, reset, or bus device reset occurred Jun 26 03:46:07 patroklos kernel: (da0:ahc0:0:0:0): Retries Exhausted Jun 26 03:46:07 patroklos kernel: (da0:ahc0:0:0:0): Invalidating pack Jun 26 03:46:31 patroklos kernel: initiate_write_filepage: already started Jun 26 03:46:43 patroklos kernel: panic: initiate_write_inodeblock_ufs2: already started As I said the machine could not recover from the panic so there ais no crashdump. The 5.4 version of the dmesg output is available at: http://noc.ntua.gr/~christia/tmp/dmesg-5.4.txt The 5.2.1 version of the dmesg output is available at: http://noc.ntua.gr/~christia/tmp/dmesg-5.2.1.txt da0 is an 1302GB external IDE to SCSI RAID (8x200GB IDE drives in RAID5 configuration and a SCSI U160 interface). FreeBSD 5.4 connects to da0 at 80MB/s (40.000MHz, offset 31, 16bit, Tagged Queueing Enabled), while FreeBSD 2.5.1 (and FreeBSD 5.3 - just tried to boot with the 5.3-RELEASE-i386-miniinst.iso) connects happily at 160MB/s (80.000MHz, offset 62, 16bit, Tagged Queueing Enabled) which is the transfer rate supported by the RAID device and the SCSI card (Adaptec 3960D Ultra160 SCSI adapter/aic7899). Any ideas what could be or where could be the problem? What has changed in = 5.4? We had preserved the 5.2.1 system disks and after the crash we moved back to 5.2.1 until further notice. Now I'm thinking of trying 5.3 which seems to have the same behavior as 5.2.1 and will be still supported for a year or so. Thanks, Panagiotis From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jun 26 08:18:03 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3905916A41C for ; Sun, 26 Jun 2005 08:18:03 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from malcolm.kay@internode.on.net) Received: from ash25e.internode.on.net (ash25e.internode.on.net [203.16.214.182]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9F23643D1F for ; Sun, 26 Jun 2005 08:18:02 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from malcolm.kay@internode.on.net) Received: from beta.home (ppp213-108.lns1.adl2.internode.on.net [203.122.213.108]) by ash25e.internode.on.net (8.12.9/8.12.6) with ESMTP id j5Q8HdXT041518; Sun, 26 Jun 2005 17:47:54 +0930 (CST) (envelope-from malcolm.kay@internode.on.net) From: Malcolm Kay Organization: at home To: Chris Phillips , freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Date: Sun, 26 Jun 2005 17:47:39 +0930 User-Agent: KMail/1.5.4 References: <42BC3038.30705@Rainbow-IT.net> In-Reply-To: <42BC3038.30705@Rainbow-IT.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200506261747.39214.malcolm.kay@internode.on.net> Cc: Subject: Re: dmesg queries X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 26 Jun 2005 08:18:03 -0000 On Sat, 25 Jun 2005 01:39 am, Chris Phillips wrote: > Hi All, > > ... > Finally, is it considered "bad form", to ask multiple > questions like I have, or should I have separated them & sent > them in multiple emails? I don't know about "bad form"; but human nature being what it is many potential respondents won't reply unless they can answer all. So you reduce your chances of obtaining what you want! Malcolm From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jun 26 08:20:56 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5836516A41C for ; Sun, 26 Jun 2005 08:20:56 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from dwmalone@maths.tcd.ie) Received: from salmon.maths.tcd.ie (salmon.maths.tcd.ie [134.226.81.11]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id B018A43D53 for ; Sun, 26 Jun 2005 08:20:55 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from dwmalone@maths.tcd.ie) Received: from walton.maths.tcd.ie ([134.226.81.10] helo=walton.maths.tcd.ie) by salmon.maths.tcd.ie with SMTP id ; 26 Jun 2005 09:20:54 +0100 (BST) Date: Sun, 26 Jun 2005 09:20:54 +0100 From: David Malone To: Nikolay Pavlov , freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20050626082054.GA66243@walton.maths.tcd.ie> References: <20050626080517.GA1727@zone3000.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20050626080517.GA1727@zone3000.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.6i Sender: dwmalone@maths.tcd.ie Cc: Subject: Re: syslogd: Logging subprocess ... exited with status 126 X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 26 Jun 2005 08:20:56 -0000 On Sun, Jun 26, 2005 at 11:05:17AM +0300, Nikolay Pavlov wrote: > local3.info | /var/run/nmd.log > syslogd: Logging subprocess s 1358 ( /var/run/nmd.log) exited with status 126. If you say "| /var/run/nmd.log" it means "run the program /var/run/nmd.log and feed the log messages to stdin of that program". I'm guessing that /var/run/nmd.log is a logfile and not a program, thus you're getting an error because it is not executable. David. From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jun 26 09:16:52 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3385316A41C for ; Sun, 26 Jun 2005 09:16:52 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from quetzal@viking.zone3000.net) Received: from aviti.net (aviti.net [217.144.68.1]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C8DEE43D55 for ; Sun, 26 Jun 2005 09:16:51 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from quetzal@viking.zone3000.net) Received: from zone3000.kharkov.ua ([217.144.68.98] helo=adserver.zone3000.net) by aviti.net with esmtp (Exim 4.30; FreeBSD) id 1DmTFw-0009rS-3M for freebsd-stable@freebsd.org; Sun, 26 Jun 2005 12:16:48 +0300 Received: from viking.zone3000.net ([10.1.1.52]) by adserver.zone3000.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.6713); Sun, 26 Jun 2005 12:16:43 +0300 Received: from viking.zone3000.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by viking.zone3000.net (8.13.3/8.13.3) with ESMTP id j5Q9GnNn002103; Sun, 26 Jun 2005 12:16:49 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from quetzal@viking.zone3000.net) Received: (from quetzal@localhost) by viking.zone3000.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/Submit) id j5Q9GnZG002102; Sun, 26 Jun 2005 12:16:49 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from quetzal) Date: Sun, 26 Jun 2005 12:16:49 +0300 From: Nikolay Pavlov To: David Malone Message-ID: <20050626091649.GA1919@zone3000.net> Mail-Followup-To: Nikolay Pavlov , David Malone , freebsd-stable@freebsd.org References: <20050626080517.GA1727@zone3000.net> <20050626082054.GA66243@walton.maths.tcd.ie> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20050626082054.GA66243@walton.maths.tcd.ie> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i X-OriginalArrivalTime: 26 Jun 2005 09:16:43.0599 (UTC) FILETIME=[C4EF35F0:01C57A2F] Cc: Nikolay Pavlov , freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: syslogd: Logging subprocess ... exited with status 126 X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 26 Jun 2005 09:16:52 -0000 On Sunday, 26 June 2005 at 9:20:54 +0100, David Malone wrote: > On Sun, Jun 26, 2005 at 11:05:17AM +0300, Nikolay Pavlov wrote: > > local3.info | /var/run/nmd.log > > > syslogd: Logging subprocess s 1358 ( /var/run/nmd.log) exited with status 126. > > If you say "| /var/run/nmd.log" it means "run the program > /var/run/nmd.log and feed the log messages to stdin of that program". > I'm guessing that /var/run/nmd.log is a logfile and not a program, > thus you're getting an error because it is not executable. > > David. Thanks, David for fast response. It's not a simple log file, but FIFO and I thought that this should working. If I misunderstood something is there any chance to send syslog output to FIFO file or pipe, because the query-log from named that I'm going to handle is very extensive. Best regards, Nikolay Pavlov. From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jun 26 09:24:13 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F1D5716A42B for ; Sun, 26 Jun 2005 09:24:12 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from dwmalone@maths.tcd.ie) Received: from salmon.maths.tcd.ie (salmon.maths.tcd.ie [134.226.81.11]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 024C543D1D for ; Sun, 26 Jun 2005 09:24:11 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from dwmalone@maths.tcd.ie) Received: from walton.maths.tcd.ie ([134.226.81.10] helo=maths.tcd.ie) by salmon.maths.tcd.ie with SMTP id ; 26 Jun 2005 10:24:10 +0100 (BST) To: Nikolay Pavlov In-reply-to: Your message of "Sun, 26 Jun 2005 12:16:49 +0300." <20050626091649.GA1919@zone3000.net> X-Request-Do: Date: Sun, 26 Jun 2005 10:24:10 +0100 From: David Malone Message-ID: <200506261024.aa51466@salmon.maths.tcd.ie> Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: syslogd: Logging subprocess ... exited with status 126 X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 26 Jun 2005 09:24:13 -0000 > It's not a simple log file, but FIFO and I thought that this should working. > If I misunderstood something is there any chance to send syslog output to FIFO > file or pipe, because the query-log from named that I'm going to handle is > very extensive. If I remember correctly, to send data to a FIFO, you can specify the FIFO as a regular file in /etc/syslogd.conf. However, you will have to be careful to make sure that there is a program reading the FIFO at all times, if you are to avoid syslogd getting confused. Instead of using a named FIFO, you can directly run your log handling program by using the pipe in syslogd.conf, so if your program to handle messages is in /usr/local/libexec/log_crunch.pl you can then use the "| /usr/local/libexec/log_crunch.pl" in syslogd.conf. David. From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jun 26 09:26:23 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 70FD116A41C for ; Sun, 26 Jun 2005 09:26:23 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from sw@gegenunendlich.de) Received: from mail.onlinefix.de (mail2-out.titan-networks.de [217.140.72.1]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0439B43D49 for ; Sun, 26 Jun 2005 09:26:22 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from sw@gegenunendlich.de) Received: from kyuzo.dunkelkammer.void ([217.140.77.242]) (authenticated bits=0) by mail.onlinefix.de (8.12.3/8.12.3/Debian-7.1) with ESMTP id j5Q9QLdk006967 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NO) for ; Sun, 26 Jun 2005 11:26:22 +0200 Received: by kyuzo.dunkelkammer.void (Postfix, from userid 1002) id BC8343A1D; Sun, 26 Jun 2005 11:26:20 +0200 (CEST) Date: Sun, 26 Jun 2005 11:26:20 +0200 From: Stefan Walter To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20050626092620.GA1565@kyuzo.dunkelkammer.void> References: <20050624125046.GA915@kyuzo.dunkelkammer.void> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="6TrnltStXW4iwmi0" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20050624125046.GA915@kyuzo.dunkelkammer.void> X-PGP-key: http://www.gegenunendlich.de/swalter-rsa.asc X-PGP-fp: 85D8 6A49 22C7 6CD9 B011 5D6A 5691 111B 12B9 E0B3 Organization: Infinity Approximation Task Force X-PGP-key: http://www.gegenunendlich.de/swalter-rsa.asc X-PGP-fingerprint: 85D8 6A49 22C7 6CD9 B011 5D6A 5691 111B 12B9 E0B3 User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.9i Subject: Re: EHCI: mtools stuck in state 'physrd' or panic X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 26 Jun 2005 09:26:23 -0000 --6TrnltStXW4iwmi0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable FYI: I have just sent a PR for this problem. http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=3D82660 Stefan --=20 No reading beyond this point --6TrnltStXW4iwmi0 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.1 (FreeBSD) iQGVAwUBQr50vFaRERsSueCzAQL3WQv+OlNpBFpQ9p5XfD40zInA9A9qQ+/oGNoS Dw9wP0DM8Xjs+al0ZNopsO1/g9ouaw5DxTWO/yIiG1j6BfUk0kNpW1AwG3Ao5ZcS kPpLk3njjDxnoY2P46Bj/BpRv+PKauffE9PV3rB5GwB/B901+BoLU8Xqvyg2X6po lh/u3Vy9pj4XwgKmsg4+LhJHBKXLlqmvC5wx7Gj8yY0KCYgt+P6yUhlqeipifncp I814icHg3D9dJVas75xtRpzX0mz8PvAJmpLCKs2R0nXkPCGq2uOfe8nB3grpzfVy faZ6CE/29llkaCd27RlVur/i13SlTPmdLQWte5aDJmdZam37zlClpm3J0xQ9nv0/ 65O8OjaJOMsJPDiyMK+YHfwNAUmPN1nyQWt5Zk65qvlRK+oJSUFcJBBFXvhBrWJM GzcmGibOEksiSogJlDIl/716qyx7HvjVauWwaq1lbNxgnXIRZ837J8W1VSYb/EVW 3yEOAC7Ck72CRqa5D7EteuVqQFahawg0 =iV97 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --6TrnltStXW4iwmi0-- From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jun 26 10:46:15 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C8A6316A41C for ; Sun, 26 Jun 2005 10:46:15 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from dom@goodforbusiness.co.uk) Received: from mail.helenmarks.co.uk (mail.helenmarks.co.uk [82.68.196.22]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3E74E43D1D for ; Sun, 26 Jun 2005 10:46:15 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from dom@goodforbusiness.co.uk) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.helenmarks.co.uk (Postfix) with ESMTP id EC4BE222420; Sun, 26 Jun 2005 11:46:12 +0100 (BST) Received: from mail.helenmarks.co.uk ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (mail.helenmarks.co.uk [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 88534-04; Sun, 26 Jun 2005 11:46:03 +0100 (BST) Received: from egg.helenmarks.co.uk (egg.helenmarks.co.uk [192.168.15.3]) by mail.helenmarks.co.uk (Postfix) with ESMTP id BC45F22241F; Sun, 26 Jun 2005 11:46:03 +0100 (BST) From: Dominic Marks Organization: GoodforBusiness.co.uk To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Date: Sun, 26 Jun 2005 11:48:10 +0100 User-Agent: KMail/1.8 References: <20050624021338.60A5743D1F@mx1.FreeBSD.org> In-Reply-To: <20050624021338.60A5743D1F@mx1.FreeBSD.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1251" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200506261148.10709.dom@goodforbusiness.co.uk> X-Virus-Scanned: By ClamAV 0.85.1 Cc: Igor Pokrovsky , "Balgansuren.B" Subject: Re: Buffalo WLI-PCI-G54 X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 26 Jun 2005 10:46:15 -0000 On Friday 24 June 2005 03:13, Balgansuren.B wrote: > Hello, > > I have driver disk for the Windows 98/Me/2000/XP of the Buffalo > WLI-PCI-G54 wireless NIC. > > If possible I want to know "ndiscvt" command convert Windows driver > to FreeBSD driver module. > These two links explain what you need to do. http://caia.swin.edu.au/reports/041221A/ http://www.FreeBSD.org/cgi/man.cgi?ndiscvt > Thanks, > Balgaa > HTH, -- Dominic GoodforBusiness.co.uk I.T. Services for SMEs in the UK. From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jun 26 10:53:07 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 083C016A41C for ; Sun, 26 Jun 2005 10:53:07 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from dom@goodforbusiness.co.uk) Received: from mail.helenmarks.co.uk (mail.helenmarks.co.uk [82.68.196.22]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A49E143D48 for ; Sun, 26 Jun 2005 10:53:06 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from dom@goodforbusiness.co.uk) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.helenmarks.co.uk (Postfix) with ESMTP id DC05222241F; Sun, 26 Jun 2005 11:53:05 +0100 (BST) Received: from mail.helenmarks.co.uk ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (mail.helenmarks.co.uk [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 87269-10; Sun, 26 Jun 2005 11:53:05 +0100 (BST) Received: from egg.helenmarks.co.uk (egg.helenmarks.co.uk [192.168.15.3]) by mail.helenmarks.co.uk (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4006E22241E; Sun, 26 Jun 2005 11:53:05 +0100 (BST) From: Dominic Marks Organization: GoodforBusiness.co.uk To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Date: Sun, 26 Jun 2005 11:55:11 +0100 User-Agent: KMail/1.8 References: <42BC3038.30705@Rainbow-IT.net> <2DBC5B54-DE92-41BA-9EB6-35BCF7719FD3@khera.org> In-Reply-To: <2DBC5B54-DE92-41BA-9EB6-35BCF7719FD3@khera.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="cp 850" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200506261155.12217.dom@goodforbusiness.co.uk> X-Virus-Scanned: By ClamAV 0.85.1 Cc: Vivek Khera Subject: Re: dmesg queries X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 26 Jun 2005 10:53:07 -0000 > > > > kernel: Interrupt storm detected on "irq19: uhci0 uhci2"; > > throttling interrupt source > > kernel: Interrupt storm detected on "irq18: bge0 uhci1+"; > > throttling interrupt source > > I get this as well. I don't use USB so I turned that off at the BIOS > and removed it from my kernel, but I still get "interrupt storm" on > my bge0 device. No idea why. I had a similar problem on an itx board, enabling DEVICE_POLLING fixed it. I found on this system around 8-10% of CPU time - when idle was used for interrupts alone without this change. That was achieved without disabling USB, which I also need. > Performance is not all that great on this box disk-wise, but CPU wise > it is acceptably fast. I run FreeBSD/amd64 on it rather than > FreeBSD/ i386. > > > Vivek Khera, Ph.D. > +1-301-869-4449 x806 -- Dominic GoodforBusiness.co.uk I.T. Services for SMEs in the UK. From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jun 26 12:05:43 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1251D16A422; Sun, 26 Jun 2005 12:05:42 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from lofi@freebsd.org) Received: from mail-in-04.arcor-online.net (mail-in-04.arcor-online.net [151.189.21.44]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 432F543D49; Sun, 26 Jun 2005 12:05:42 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from lofi@freebsd.org) Received: from mail-in-07-z2.arcor-online.net (mail-in-07-z2.arcor-online.net [151.189.8.19]) by mail-in-04.arcor-online.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4EA9C21055; Sun, 26 Jun 2005 14:05:41 +0200 (CEST) Received: from mail-in-04.arcor-online.net (mail-in-04.arcor-online.net [151.189.21.44]) by mail-in-07-z2.arcor-online.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6C15F131400; Sun, 26 Jun 2005 14:05:40 +0200 (CEST) Received: from lofi.dyndns.org (dsl-213-023-192-094.arcor-ip.net [213.23.192.94]) by mail-in-04.arcor-online.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CB4E121055; Sun, 26 Jun 2005 14:05:40 +0200 (CEST) Received: from [192.168.8.4] (lofi@kiste.my.domain [192.168.8.4]) (authenticated bits=0) by lofi.dyndns.org (8.13.3/8.13.3) with ESMTP id j5QC5ZUo000733 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5 bits=128 verify=NO); Sun, 26 Jun 2005 14:05:36 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from lofi@freebsd.org) From: Michael Nottebrock To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Date: Sun, 26 Jun 2005 14:05:23 +0200 User-Agent: KMail/1.8.1 References: In-Reply-To: X-Face: =Ym$`&q\+S2X$4`X%x%6"L4>Y,$]<":'L%c9"#7#`2tb&E&wsN31on!N\)3BD[g<=?utf-8?q?=2EjnfV=5B=0A=093=23?=>XchLK,o; >bD>c:]^; :>0>vyZ.X[,63GW`&M>}nYnr]-Fp``,[[@lJ!QL|sfW!s)=?utf-8?q?A2!*=0A=09vNkB/=7CL-?=>&QdSbQg X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new Cc: Mark Linimon , Warren , Ted Mittelstaedt , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Portupgrade in Xfree86 pkg failed X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 26 Jun 2005 12:05:43 -0000 --nextPart1458870.dueZByeuai Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline On Sunday, 26. June 2005 01:18, Ted Mittelstaedt wrote: > If there was significant "product differentiation" between xfree86 and > xorg, then there would be a reason to keep both. Right now there is > not and with the difficulty in X development, there won't soon be. There's already quite a delta on the video driver level. > Here's the litmus test - would you pull a popular port if it breaks on 4 > but not on 5? 'nuff said. What does that prove? It wouldn't get pulled if it would break the other wa= y=20 around either, but be marked BROKEN for the appropriate branch. > The FreeBSD project agrees with me, if they did not then they would > have rewritten the installer to make it optional which one to pick. 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Received: from [195.62.17.204] (2D204.demax.sk [195.62.17.204]) by mail.demax.sk (Postfix) with ESMTP id ABF3842AD6 for ; Sun, 26 Jun 2005 14:46:39 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <42BFF520.4000706@demax.sk> Date: Mon, 27 Jun 2005 14:46:24 +0200 From: Jan Sebosik User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.8) Gecko/20050511 MultiZilla/1.7.7.0e X-Accept-Language: sk, en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: ATA_INTERRUPT error (5-stable) X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 26 Jun 2005 12:46:38 -0000 Hi folks, i`ve today upgraded my PC to board ABIT IS7-E2 with intel 865PE chipset.I`ve IBM 120GXP drive. If i tried to boot my freebsd 5-stable (from 18.6.2005), i got (after IPF initialization): ATA_INTERRUPT was seen but timeout fired out with LBA=0. This message appears infinetly. Bios in the mobo is newest since buy(so no reflashing by me). Sometimes freebsd boots correctly (don`t know what it will cause - it`s unpredictible), but then after let`s say 5 minutes freezes (no kbd && mouse response). Any ideas about how to get it boot correctly?! tnx, Jan Sebosik From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jun 26 14:20:30 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0B60216A41C for ; Sun, 26 Jun 2005 14:20:30 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from allbery@ece.cmu.edu) Received: from bache.ece.cmu.edu (BACHE.ECE.CMU.EDU [128.2.129.23]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D273B43D4C for ; Sun, 26 Jun 2005 14:20:29 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from allbery@ece.cmu.edu) Received: from tirun (dsl093-061-215.pit1.dsl.speakeasy.net [66.93.61.215]) by bache.ece.cmu.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id EA409AA for ; Sun, 26 Jun 2005 10:20:27 -0400 (EDT) From: "Brandon S. Allbery KF8NH" To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <20050626091649.GA1919@zone3000.net> References: <20050626080517.GA1727@zone3000.net> <20050626082054.GA66243@walton.maths.tcd.ie> <20050626091649.GA1919@zone3000.net> Content-Type: text/plain Date: Sun, 26 Jun 2005 10:20:26 -0400 Message-Id: <1119795626.11102.8.camel@tirun> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.2.3 FreeBSD GNOME Team Port Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: syslogd: Logging subprocess ... exited with status 126 X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 26 Jun 2005 14:20:30 -0000 On Sun, 2005-06-26 at 12:16 +0300, Nikolay Pavlov wrote: > On Sunday, 26 June 2005 at 9:20:54 +0100, David Malone wrote: > > On Sun, Jun 26, 2005 at 11:05:17AM +0300, Nikolay Pavlov wrote: > > > local3.info | /var/run/nmd.log > > > > > syslogd: Logging subprocess s 1358 ( /var/run/nmd.log) exited with status 126. > > > > If you say "| /var/run/nmd.log" it means "run the program > > /var/run/nmd.log and feed the log messages to stdin of that program". > > I'm guessing that /var/run/nmd.log is a logfile and not a program, > > thus you're getting an error because it is not executable. > Thanks, David for fast response. > It's not a simple log file, but FIFO and I thought that this should working. Nope, a FIFO is still not an executable. If you can't just list the FIFO as a file, maybe try "| cat >/var/run/nmd.log" ? Alternately, you should do away with the FIFO entirely and invoke the program that you currently have on the read end of the FIFO in syslog.conf. -- brandon s. allbery [linux,solaris,freebsd,perl] allbery@kf8nh.com system administrator [WAY too many hats] allbery@ece.cmu.edu electrical and computer engineering, carnegie mellon univ. KF8NH From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jun 26 16:42:49 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4578316A41C for ; Sun, 26 Jun 2005 16:42:49 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from iedowse@iedowse.com) Received: from nowhere.iedowse.com (nowhere.iedowse.com [82.195.144.75]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id BDD9343D1D for ; Sun, 26 Jun 2005 16:42:48 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from iedowse@iedowse.com) Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=iedowse.com) by nowhere.iedowse.com via local-iedowse id ; 26 Jun 2005 17:42:45 +0100 (IST) To: Stefan Walter In-Reply-To: Your message of "Sun, 26 Jun 2005 11:26:20 +0200." <20050626092620.GA1565@kyuzo.dunkelkammer.void> Date: Sun, 26 Jun 2005 17:42:44 +0100 From: Ian Dowse Message-ID: <200506261742.aa93128@nowhere.iedowse.com> Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: EHCI: mtools stuck in state 'physrd' or panic X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 26 Jun 2005 16:42:49 -0000 In message <20050626092620.GA1565@kyuzo.dunkelkammer.void>, Stefan Walter write s: >FYI: I have just sent a PR for this problem. > >http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=82660 OpenBSD have a workaround for problems with VIA EHCI controllers that can cause the hanging symptoms you describe. Below is a patch that implements their change in FreeBSD's driver. Could you try it to see if it helps? Thanks, Ian Index: sys/dev/usb/ehci.c =================================================================== RCS file: /dump/FreeBSD-CVS/src/sys/dev/usb/ehci.c,v retrieving revision 1.14.2.9 diff -u -r1.14.2.9 ehci.c --- sys/dev/usb/ehci.c 31 Mar 2005 19:47:11 -0000 1.14.2.9 +++ sys/dev/usb/ehci.c 26 Jun 2005 16:21:11 -0000 @@ -155,6 +155,7 @@ Static void ehci_idone(struct ehci_xfer *); Static void ehci_timeout(void *); Static void ehci_timeout_task(void *); +Static void ehci_intrlist_timeout(void *); Static usbd_status ehci_allocm(struct usbd_bus *, usb_dma_t *, u_int32_t); Static void ehci_freem(struct usbd_bus *, usb_dma_t *); @@ -491,6 +492,7 @@ EOWRITE4(sc, EHCI_ASYNCLISTADDR, sqh->physaddr | EHCI_LINK_QH); usb_callout_init(sc->sc_tmo_pcd); + usb_callout_init(sc->sc_tmo_intrlist); lockinit(&sc->sc_doorbell_lock, PZERO, "ehcidb", 0, 0); @@ -694,6 +696,11 @@ ehci_check_intr(sc, ex); } + /* Schedule a callout to catch any dropped transactions. */ + if ((sc->sc_flags & EHCI_SCFLG_LOSTINTRBUG) && + !LIST_EMPTY(&sc->sc_intrhead)) + usb_callout(sc->sc_tmo_intrlist, hz, ehci_intrlist_timeout, sc); + #ifdef USB_USE_SOFTINTR if (sc->sc_softwake) { sc->sc_softwake = 0; @@ -942,6 +949,7 @@ EOWRITE4(sc, EHCI_USBINTR, sc->sc_eintrs); EOWRITE4(sc, EHCI_USBCMD, 0); EOWRITE4(sc, EHCI_USBCMD, EHCI_CMD_HCRESET); + usb_uncallout(sc->sc_tmo_intrlist, ehci_intrlist_timeout, sc); usb_uncallout(sc->sc_tmo_pcd, ehci_pcd_enable, sc); #if defined(__NetBSD__) || defined(__OpenBSD__) @@ -2701,6 +2708,30 @@ splx(s); } + +/* + * Some EHCI chips from VIA seem to trigger interrupts before writing back the + * qTD status, or miss signalling occasionally under heavy load. If the host + * machine is too fast, we we can miss transaction completion - when we scan + * the active list the transaction still seems to be active. This generally + * exhibits itself as a umass stall that never recovers. + * + * We work around this behaviour by setting up this callback after any softintr + * that completes with transactions still pending, giving us another chance to + * check for completion after the writeback has taken place. + */ +void +ehci_intrlist_timeout(void *arg) +{ + ehci_softc_t *sc = arg; + int s = splusb(); + + DPRINTFN(3, ("ehci_intrlist_timeout\n")); + usb_schedsoftintr(&sc->sc_bus); + + splx(s); +} + /************************/ Static usbd_status Index: sys/dev/usb/ehci_pci.c =================================================================== RCS file: /dump/FreeBSD-CVS/src/sys/dev/usb/ehci_pci.c,v retrieving revision 1.14.2.2 diff -u -r1.14.2.2 ehci_pci.c --- sys/dev/usb/ehci_pci.c 13 Jun 2005 09:00:19 -0000 1.14.2.2 +++ sys/dev/usb/ehci_pci.c 26 Jun 2005 16:21:11 -0000 @@ -303,6 +303,10 @@ return ENXIO; } + /* Enable workaround for dropped interrupts as required */ + if (pci_get_vendor(self) == PCI_EHCI_VENDORID_VIA) + sc->sc_flags |= EHCI_SCFLG_LOSTINTRBUG; + /* * Find companion controllers. According to the spec they always * have lower function numbers so they should be enumerated already. Index: sys/dev/usb/ehcivar.h =================================================================== RCS file: /dump/FreeBSD-CVS/src/sys/dev/usb/ehcivar.h,v retrieving revision 1.4.2.4 diff -u -r1.4.2.4 ehcivar.h --- sys/dev/usb/ehcivar.h 22 Mar 2005 00:56:54 -0000 1.4.2.4 +++ sys/dev/usb/ehcivar.h 26 Jun 2005 16:21:11 -0000 @@ -93,6 +93,7 @@ #define EHCI_COMPANION_MAX 8 #define EHCI_SCFLG_DONEINIT 0x0001 /* ehci_init() has been called. */ +#define EHCI_SCFLG_LOSTINTRBUG 0x0002 /* workaround for VIA chipsets */ typedef struct ehci_softc { struct usbd_bus sc_bus; /* base device */ @@ -149,6 +150,7 @@ struct lock sc_doorbell_lock; usb_callout_t sc_tmo_pcd; + usb_callout_t sc_tmo_intrlist; device_ptr_t sc_child; /* /dev/usb# device */ From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jun 26 18:12:31 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 72CFE16A41C for ; Sun, 26 Jun 2005 18:12:31 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from mahmoh@gmail.com) Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.194]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 338F843D4C for ; Sun, 26 Jun 2005 18:12:31 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from mahmoh@gmail.com) Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id i21so243140wra for ; Sun, 26 Jun 2005 11:12:30 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; b=asWW2oaS/62XWnNMJh/mQjjpMwSYH8ZZDTS3IJtaw2Udh2q++HFuu01SCuwwukkeJJXWsLz2hRoOeNrI4KLwutQsUx+Qqi+wof5mh0I4XRMJcmBOL1YWFW9K0BOZPhRnE9w7zphLxCDG1xF06K+9DjqRFvFjXnSVYYWRqpxtc3w= Received: by 10.54.23.25 with SMTP id 25mr640113wrw; Sun, 26 Jun 2005 11:12:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.41.17 with HTTP; Sun, 26 Jun 2005 11:12:30 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Sun, 26 Jun 2005 21:12:30 +0300 From: Maher Mohamed To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline Subject: portinstall .vs. make install clean X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Maher Mohamed List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 26 Jun 2005 18:12:31 -0000 can some tell me what is the difference bitween portinstall and make install clean, and in which way should one portupgrade its ports? thnk you in advanced=20 --=20 Mohamed M. Maher From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jun 26 18:16:16 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8837E16A41C for ; Sun, 26 Jun 2005 18:16:16 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from mahmoh@gmail.com) Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.204]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4EA4743D5D for ; Sun, 26 Jun 2005 18:16:16 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from mahmoh@gmail.com) Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 57so241062wri for ; Sun, 26 Jun 2005 11:16:15 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; b=julTPOS18m+8AUN5md/SEOpAbTdbFu+VPUblA4OpyBbBdhM1YUH6xaBsDaADmJirP0WjH0GjgdmGpTSgRkbbD//xmNGtCVLkXx5aA/NdxWdiB7Zou98ELC+AVtTOEnMlepM05anxOB+HY+7n8nm5vbBGunKhX4r4RXA0HCR2H6A= Received: by 10.54.15.38 with SMTP id 38mr2134086wro; Sun, 26 Jun 2005 11:16:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.41.17 with HTTP; Sun, 26 Jun 2005 11:16:15 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Sun, 26 Jun 2005 21:16:15 +0300 From: Maher Mohamed To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline Subject: index.php X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Maher Mohamed List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 26 Jun 2005 18:16:16 -0000 how can i make my server link to be redirected to the index.php i hve a web page at http://150.140.210.79:2005/~mahmoh the thing is that if i make the index.html to index.php the whenever i go to the url above i have to add the extra /index.php=20 can i get rid of that? is there a way? --=20 Mohamed M. Maher From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jun 26 18:17:51 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5819616A41C for ; Sun, 26 Jun 2005 18:17:51 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from mahmoh@gmail.com) Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.204]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1DF6C43D1F for ; Sun, 26 Jun 2005 18:17:51 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from mahmoh@gmail.com) Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id i20so237196wra for ; Sun, 26 Jun 2005 11:17:50 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; b=KBnPDrLfFX72yRRE1HF872MTc1Ll4bYNX7+DQtStRIwGfVPUHySWqP93Qq/+kmz+BBCchF3kO5JFYX2dcKk3vajg5rOZmpnddzVl7vULQRScEsntEE/b9Xz2+aPqmMO2xqnevdrR4xz30oJ4XEYIsNFvqMZJe6mDF6x+kaTvk6c= Received: by 10.54.52.32 with SMTP id z32mr2140018wrz; Sun, 26 Jun 2005 11:17:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.41.17 with HTTP; Sun, 26 Jun 2005 11:17:50 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Sun, 26 Jun 2005 21:17:50 +0300 From: Maher Mohamed To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline Subject: auto cvsup X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Maher Mohamed List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 26 Jun 2005 18:17:51 -0000 how can i upgrade my cvsup weekly with an auto way? --=20 Mohamed M. Maher From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jun 26 18:21:04 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2598E16A41C for ; Sun, 26 Jun 2005 18:21:04 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from zlobar@gw.lancore.net.ua) Received: from gw.lancore.net.ua (gw.lancore.net.ua [217.20.184.45]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3E5A443D55 for ; Sun, 26 Jun 2005 18:21:00 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from zlobar@gw.lancore.net.ua) Received: from gw.lancore.net.ua (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gw.lancore.net.ua (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id j5QIM8Lj051206 for ; Sun, 26 Jun 2005 21:22:08 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from zlobar@gw.lancore.net.ua) Received: (from zlobar@localhost) by gw.lancore.net.ua (8.13.1/8.13.1/Submit) id j5QIM8Lg051205 for freebsd-stable@freebsd.org; Sun, 26 Jun 2005 21:22:08 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from zlobar) Date: Sun, 26 Jun 2005 21:22:07 +0300 From: Sergey Spivak To: Maher Mohamed Message-ID: <20050626182207.GA51175@lancore.net.ua> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=koi8-u Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV 0.86/957/Sat Jun 25 04:17:57 2005 on gw.lancore.net.ua X-Virus-Status: Clean Subject: Re: index.php X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 26 Jun 2005 18:21:04 -0000 Hi! Offtopic. :-\ > i hve a web page at http://150.140.210.79:2005/~mahmoh > the thing is that if i make the index.html to index.php the > whenever i go to the url above. i have to add the extra /index.php > can i get rid of that? is there a way? add "index.php" to DirectoryIndex directive in apache config. -- wbr, sergey v. spivak sergey#spivak.kiev.ua zlob-uanic/eunic/ripe From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jun 26 18:21:09 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E98B816A480 for ; Sun, 26 Jun 2005 18:21:09 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from oweandre@stud.ntnu.no) Received: from merke.itea.ntnu.no (merke.itea.ntnu.no [129.241.7.61]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8369043D48 for ; Sun, 26 Jun 2005 18:21:09 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from oweandre@stud.ntnu.no) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by merke.itea.ntnu.no (Postfix) with ESMTP id EBB4313C4D5 for ; Sun, 26 Jun 2005 20:21:07 +0200 (CEST) Received: from [129.241.134.56] (m056g.studby.ntnu.no [129.241.134.56]) by merke.itea.ntnu.no (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Sun, 26 Jun 2005 20:21:07 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <42BEF213.3020909@stud.ntnu.no> Date: Sun, 26 Jun 2005 20:21:07 +0200 From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Owe_Andr=E9_J=F8rgensen?= User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.2 (Windows/20050317) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Scanned: with sophos and spamassassin at mailgw.ntnu.no. Subject: Re: index.php X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 26 Jun 2005 18:21:10 -0000 Maher Mohamed wrote: > how can i make my server link to be redirected to the index.php >=20 > i hve a web page at http://150.140.210.79:2005/~mahmoh > the thing is that if i make the index.html to index.php the whenever i > go to the url above > i have to add the extra /index.php=20 >=20 > can i get rid of that? is there a way? >=20 > --=20 > Mohamed M. Maher > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-stable-unsubscribe@freebsd.or= g" this goes into the ~public_html/index.php file to the home folder of the = user mahmoh. Owe J=F8rgensen From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jun 26 18:22:12 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8FA7116A41F for ; Sun, 26 Jun 2005 18:22:12 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from gabor.kovesdan@t-hosting.hu) Received: from viefep20-int.chello.at (viefep12-int.chello.at [213.46.255.25]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BEC2A43D48 for ; Sun, 26 Jun 2005 18:22:10 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from gabor.kovesdan@t-hosting.hu) Received: from [80.98.156.20] by viefep20-int.chello.at (InterMail vM.6.01.04.04 201-2131-118-104-20050224) with ESMTP id <20050626182209.XEHL29474.viefep20-int.chello.at@[80.98.156.20]>; Sun, 26 Jun 2005 20:22:09 +0200 Message-ID: <42BEF243.3020108@t-hosting.hu> Date: Sun, 26 Jun 2005 20:21:55 +0200 From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?K=F6vesd=E1n_G=E1bor?= User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.2 (Windows/20050317) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Maher Mohamed References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: index.php X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 26 Jun 2005 18:22:12 -0000 Maher Mohamed wrote: >how can i make my server link to be redirected to the index.php > >i hve a web page at http://150.140.210.79:2005/~mahmoh >the thing is that if i make the index.html to index.php the whenever i >go to the url above >i have to add the extra /index.php > >can i get rid of that? is there a way? > > -- >Mohamed M. Maher >_______________________________________________ >freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list >http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable >To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-stable-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > You should modify your DirectoryIndex line in httpd.conf in such way: DirectoryIndex index.html index.html.var index.php index.phtml According to that, the webserver firstly looks for index.html, if it doesn't exist, then for index.html.var... The index.php is the third in this example, but You can use a different order. Cheers, Gábor Kövesdán From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jun 26 18:22:33 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A22EB16A41C for ; Sun, 26 Jun 2005 18:22:33 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from big@kuwaitnet.net) Received: from orbit.kuwaitnet.net (orbit.kuwaitnet.net [216.40.249.67]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6BB9743D1F for ; Sun, 26 Jun 2005 18:22:33 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from big@kuwaitnet.net) Received: from [62.150.129.102] (helo=[192.168.0.70]) by orbit.kuwaitnet.net with esmtpa (Exim 4.50) id 1Dmbm1-0002FN-Ga for freebsd-stable@freebsd.org; Sun, 26 Jun 2005 21:22:30 +0300 Message-ID: <42BEF264.2040908@kuwaitnet.net> Date: Sun, 26 Jun 2005 21:22:28 +0300 From: Bashar User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.2 (Windows/20050317) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org References: In-Reply-To: X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - orbit.kuwaitnet.net X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - freebsd.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - kuwaitnet.net X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1256; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: Re: index.php X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 26 Jun 2005 18:22:33 -0000 If you run apache just add index.php to DirectoryIndex directive at the httpd.conf and it should work fine. example: DirectoryIndex index.html index.wml index.cgi index.shtml index.jsp index.js index.jp index.php4 index.php3 index.php index.phtml index.htm default.htm default.html home.htm you can have any file name for example maher.php too and it will load as the first page. Best Regards, Maher Mohamed wrote: >how can i make my server link to be redirected to the index.php > >i hve a web page at http://150.140.210.79:2005/~mahmoh >the thing is that if i make the index.html to index.php the whenever i >go to the url above >i have to add the extra /index.php > >can i get rid of that? is there a way? > > -- >Mohamed M. Maher >_______________________________________________ >freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list >http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable >To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-stable-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > > > > From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jun 26 18:24:16 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 73A0216A41C for ; Sun, 26 Jun 2005 18:24:16 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from big@kuwaitnet.net) Received: from orbit.kuwaitnet.net (orbit.kuwaitnet.net [216.40.249.67]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4E49743D1F for ; Sun, 26 Jun 2005 18:24:16 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from big@kuwaitnet.net) Received: from [62.150.129.102] (helo=[192.168.0.70]) by orbit.kuwaitnet.net with esmtpa (Exim 4.50) id 1Dmbng-0002Gi-I3 for freebsd-stable@freebsd.org; Sun, 26 Jun 2005 21:24:12 +0300 Message-ID: <42BEF2CB.1060403@kuwaitnet.net> Date: Sun, 26 Jun 2005 21:24:11 +0300 From: Bashar User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.2 (Windows/20050317) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org References: In-Reply-To: X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - orbit.kuwaitnet.net X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - freebsd.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - kuwaitnet.net X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1256; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: Re: portinstall .vs. make install clean X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 26 Jun 2005 18:24:16 -0000 portinstall and portupgrade are scripts to do 'make install clean' in an easy way :) Maher Mohamed wrote: >can some tell me what is the difference bitween portinstall and make >install clean, and in which way should one portupgrade its ports? > >thnk you in advanced > > > From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jun 26 18:24:58 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A50C016A41C for ; Sun, 26 Jun 2005 18:24:58 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from danger@rulez.sk) Received: from mail.rulez.sk (DaEmoN.RuLeZ.sK [84.16.32.226]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 614D043D1F for ; Sun, 26 Jun 2005 18:24:58 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from danger@rulez.sk) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.rulez.sk (Postfix) with ESMTP id 106FC1CC8C; Sun, 26 Jun 2005 20:24:52 +0200 (CEST) Received: from danger.dnv.dewnet.sk (dewnet [213.215.105.189]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.rulez.sk (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5FF1A1CC8B; Sun, 26 Jun 2005 20:24:48 +0200 (CEST) Date: Sun, 26 Jun 2005 20:25:30 +0200 From: Daniel Gerzo X-Mailer: The Bat! (v3.5) UNREG / CD5BF9353B3B7091 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <867299380.20050626202530@rulez.sk> To: Maher Mohamed In-Reply-To: References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at mail.rulez.sk X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-2.893 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-0.294, BAYES_00=-2.599] X-Spam-Level: Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: auto cvsup X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Daniel Gerzo List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 26 Jun 2005 18:24:58 -0000 Hi Maher, Sunday, June 26, 2005, 8:17:50 PM, you typed: > how can i upgrade my cvsup weekly with an auto way? use cron -- Best regards DanGer, ICQ: 261701668 | e-mail protecting at: http://www.2pu.net/ http://danger.rulez.sk | proxy list at: http://www.proxy-web.com/ | FreeBSD - The Power to Serve! [ I am being followed by a pair of boxer shorts. ] From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jun 26 18:26:23 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EFD0F16A41C for ; Sun, 26 Jun 2005 18:26:23 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from zlobar@gw.lancore.net.ua) Received: from gw.lancore.net.ua (gw.lancore.net.ua [217.20.184.45]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 14D8D43D1D for ; Sun, 26 Jun 2005 18:26:22 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from zlobar@gw.lancore.net.ua) Received: from gw.lancore.net.ua (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gw.lancore.net.ua (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id j5QIRVuA051373 for ; Sun, 26 Jun 2005 21:27:31 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from zlobar@gw.lancore.net.ua) Received: (from zlobar@localhost) by gw.lancore.net.ua (8.13.1/8.13.1/Submit) id j5QIRV9N051372 for freebsd-stable@freebsd.org; Sun, 26 Jun 2005 21:27:31 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from zlobar) Date: Sun, 26 Jun 2005 21:27:31 +0300 From: Sergey Spivak To: Maher Mohamed Message-ID: <20050626182731.GA51339@lancore.net.ua> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=koi8-u Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV 0.86/957/Sat Jun 25 04:17:57 2005 on gw.lancore.net.ua X-Virus-Status: Clean Subject: Re: auto cvsup X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 26 Jun 2005 18:26:24 -0000 Hi! > > how can i upgrade my cvsup weekly with an auto way? > cron it. -- wbr, sergey v. spivak sergey#spivak.kiev.ua zlob-uanic/eunic/ripe From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jun 26 18:26:39 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5B12616A485 for ; Sun, 26 Jun 2005 18:26:39 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from wb@freebie.xs4all.nl) Received: from smtp-vbr4.xs4all.nl (smtp-vbr4.xs4all.nl [194.109.24.24]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 81DCD43D48 for ; Sun, 26 Jun 2005 18:26:38 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from wb@freebie.xs4all.nl) Received: from freebie.xs4all.nl (freebie.xs4all.nl [213.84.32.253]) by smtp-vbr4.xs4all.nl (8.13.3/8.13.3) with ESMTP id j5QIQarx059285; Sun, 26 Jun 2005 20:26:36 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wb@freebie.xs4all.nl) Received: from freebie.xs4all.nl (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by freebie.xs4all.nl (8.13.3/8.13.3) with ESMTP id j5QIQatg097091; Sun, 26 Jun 2005 20:26:36 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wb@freebie.xs4all.nl) Received: (from wb@localhost) by freebie.xs4all.nl (8.13.3/8.13.1/Submit) id j5QIQapM097090; Sun, 26 Jun 2005 20:26:36 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wb) Date: Sun, 26 Jun 2005 20:26:36 +0200 From: Wilko Bulte To: Maher Mohamed Message-ID: <20050626182636.GE96930@freebie.xs4all.nl> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: X-OS: FreeBSD 5.4-STABLE User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.9i X-Virus-Scanned: by XS4ALL Virus Scanner Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: auto cvsup X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 26 Jun 2005 18:26:39 -0000 On Sun, Jun 26, 2005 at 09:17:50PM +0300, Maher Mohamed wrote.. > how can i upgrade my cvsup weekly with an auto way? cron? -- Wilko Bulte wilko@FreeBSD.org From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jun 26 18:26:44 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3604316A457 for ; Sun, 26 Jun 2005 18:26:44 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from big@kuwaitnet.net) Received: from orbit.kuwaitnet.net (orbit.kuwaitnet.net [216.40.249.67]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4954443D6E for ; Sun, 26 Jun 2005 18:26:42 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from big@kuwaitnet.net) Received: from [62.150.129.102] (helo=[192.168.0.70]) by orbit.kuwaitnet.net with esmtpa (Exim 4.50) id 1Dmbq2-0002Kt-HK for freebsd-stable@freebsd.org; Sun, 26 Jun 2005 21:26:38 +0300 Message-ID: <42BEF35D.5030503@kuwaitnet.net> Date: Sun, 26 Jun 2005 21:26:37 +0300 From: Bashar User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.2 (Windows/20050317) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org References: In-Reply-To: X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - orbit.kuwaitnet.net X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - freebsd.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - kuwaitnet.net X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1256; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: Re: auto cvsup X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 26 Jun 2005 18:26:44 -0000 just add this line to your /etc/crontab 0 0 * * 5 root /usr/local/bin/cvsup -g -L 0 /usr/share/examples/cvsup/your_Cvsupfile this will run every friday midnight and update your files. Maher Mohamed wrote: >how can i upgrade my cvsup weekly with an auto way? > > > From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jun 26 18:27:28 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0B7FC16A41F for ; Sun, 26 Jun 2005 18:27:28 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from dom@goodforbusiness.co.uk) Received: from mail.helenmarks.co.uk (mail.helenmarks.co.uk [82.68.196.22]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AE7F043D4C for ; Sun, 26 Jun 2005 18:27:27 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from dom@goodforbusiness.co.uk) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.helenmarks.co.uk (Postfix) with ESMTP id D9F29222403; Sun, 26 Jun 2005 19:27:26 +0100 (BST) Received: from mail.helenmarks.co.uk ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (mail.helenmarks.co.uk [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 89703-09; Sun, 26 Jun 2005 19:27:22 +0100 (BST) Received: from egg.helenmarks.co.uk (egg.helenmarks.co.uk [192.168.15.3]) by mail.helenmarks.co.uk (Postfix) with ESMTP id 25673222402; Sun, 26 Jun 2005 19:27:22 +0100 (BST) From: Dominic Marks Organization: GoodforBusiness.co.uk To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org, Maher Mohamed Date: Sun, 26 Jun 2005 19:29:27 +0100 User-Agent: KMail/1.8 References: In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200506261929.27681.dom@goodforbusiness.co.uk> X-Virus-Scanned: By ClamAV 0.85.1 Cc: Subject: Re: portinstall .vs. make install clean X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 26 Jun 2005 18:27:28 -0000 On Sunday 26 June 2005 19:12, Maher Mohamed wrote: > can some tell me what is the difference bitween portinstall and make > install clean, and in which way should one portupgrade its ports? portinstall is a ruby program which comes with portupgrade which you can use to build and install ports. It can do some things which you can't do with a simple 'make install'. For example, I often use portinstall to create packages for a port and its dependancies. See the portupgrade manual page for details about how to use it. You should also look at /usr/local/etc/pkgtools.conf for how to set more advanced configurations for your system. > thnk you in advanced -- Dominic GoodforBusiness.co.uk I.T. Services for SMEs in the UK. From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jun 26 18:28:31 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5C06916A41C for ; Sun, 26 Jun 2005 18:28:31 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from gabor.kovesdan@t-hosting.hu) Received: from viefep12-int.chello.at (viefep12-int.chello.at [213.46.255.25]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 951E743D53 for ; Sun, 26 Jun 2005 18:28:30 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from gabor.kovesdan@t-hosting.hu) Received: from [80.98.156.20] by viefep12-int.chello.at (InterMail vM.6.01.04.04 201-2131-118-104-20050224) with ESMTP id <20050626182829.ODLY2126.viefep12-int.chello.at@[80.98.156.20]>; Sun, 26 Jun 2005 20:28:29 +0200 Message-ID: <42BEF3C8.2000902@t-hosting.hu> Date: Sun, 26 Jun 2005 20:28:24 +0200 From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?K=F6vesd=E1n_G=E1bor?= User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.2 (Windows/20050317) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Maher Mohamed References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: auto cvsup X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 26 Jun 2005 18:28:31 -0000 Maher Mohamed wrote: >how can i upgrade my cvsup weekly with an auto way? > > > You should use crondaemon. Place the following line to the end of /etc/crontab: 15 4 * * 6 root cvsup /some/path/to/supfile The number six represents the sixth day of the week, the 15 is the minute number and the second is the hour, thus this will run on every Friday (if I remember correctly, I'm not sure the numbering starts with Sunday) at 4:15. Cheers, Gábor Kövesdán From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jun 26 18:31:46 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ABAF516A41C for ; Sun, 26 Jun 2005 18:31:46 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from zlobar@gw.lancore.net.ua) Received: from gw.lancore.net.ua (gw.lancore.net.ua [217.20.184.45]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A7D2C43D55 for ; Sun, 26 Jun 2005 18:31:45 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from zlobar@gw.lancore.net.ua) Received: from gw.lancore.net.ua (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gw.lancore.net.ua (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id j5QIWrY5051545 for ; Sun, 26 Jun 2005 21:32:53 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from zlobar@gw.lancore.net.ua) Received: (from zlobar@localhost) by gw.lancore.net.ua (8.13.1/8.13.1/Submit) id j5QIWrLO051544 for freebsd-stable@freebsd.org; Sun, 26 Jun 2005 21:32:53 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from zlobar) Date: Sun, 26 Jun 2005 21:32:53 +0300 From: Sergey Spivak To: Dominic Marks Message-ID: <20050626183253.GA51515@lancore.net.ua> References: <200506261929.27681.dom@goodforbusiness.co.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=koi8-u Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <200506261929.27681.dom@goodforbusiness.co.uk> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV 0.86/957/Sat Jun 25 04:17:57 2005 on gw.lancore.net.ua X-Virus-Status: Clean Subject: Re: portinstall .vs. make install clean X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 26 Jun 2005 18:31:46 -0000 Hi! > > portinstall is a ruby program which comes with portupgrade > "portinstall" = "portupgrade -N" -- wbr, sergey v. spivak sergey#spivak.kiev.ua zlob-uanic/eunic/ripe From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jun 26 18:38:13 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0131F16A41C for ; Sun, 26 Jun 2005 18:38:13 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from dom@goodforbusiness.co.uk) Received: from mail.helenmarks.co.uk (mail.helenmarks.co.uk [82.68.196.22]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A5B4F43D4C for ; Sun, 26 Jun 2005 18:38:12 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from dom@goodforbusiness.co.uk) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.helenmarks.co.uk (Postfix) with ESMTP id B47E6222403 for ; Sun, 26 Jun 2005 19:38:11 +0100 (BST) Received: from mail.helenmarks.co.uk ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (mail.helenmarks.co.uk [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 90048-09 for ; Sun, 26 Jun 2005 19:38:11 +0100 (BST) Received: from egg.helenmarks.co.uk (egg.helenmarks.co.uk [192.168.15.3]) by mail.helenmarks.co.uk (Postfix) with ESMTP id 19547222402 for ; Sun, 26 Jun 2005 19:38:11 +0100 (BST) From: Dominic Marks Organization: GoodforBusiness.co.uk To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Date: Sun, 26 Jun 2005 19:40:16 +0100 User-Agent: KMail/1.8 References: <200506261929.27681.dom@goodforbusiness.co.uk> <20050626183253.GA51515@lancore.net.ua> In-Reply-To: <20050626183253.GA51515@lancore.net.ua> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="koi8-u" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200506261940.16415.dom@goodforbusiness.co.uk> X-Virus-Scanned: By ClamAV 0.85.1 Subject: Re: portinstall .vs. make install clean X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 26 Jun 2005 18:38:13 -0000 On Sunday 26 June 2005 19:32, Sergey Spivak wrote: > Hi! > > > portinstall is a ruby program which comes with portupgrade > > "portinstall" = "portupgrade -N" Oh. Makes me wonder why 'portinstall' exists at all. -- Dominic GoodforBusiness.co.uk I.T. Services for SMEs in the UK. From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jun 26 18:38:52 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E754016A41C for ; Sun, 26 Jun 2005 18:38:52 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from sw@gegenunendlich.de) Received: from mail.onlinefix.de (mail2-out.titan-networks.de [217.140.72.1]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7900E43D5C for ; Sun, 26 Jun 2005 18:38:51 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from sw@gegenunendlich.de) Received: from kyuzo.dunkelkammer.void ([217.140.77.242]) (authenticated bits=0) by mail.onlinefix.de (8.12.3/8.12.3/Debian-7.1) with ESMTP id j5QIcm6d016172 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NO); Sun, 26 Jun 2005 20:38:50 +0200 Received: by kyuzo.dunkelkammer.void (Postfix, from userid 1002) id A3F1E3A1D; Sun, 26 Jun 2005 20:38:47 +0200 (CEST) Date: Sun, 26 Jun 2005 20:38:46 +0200 From: Stefan Walter To: Ian Dowse Message-ID: <20050626183846.GA1174@kyuzo.dunkelkammer.void> References: <20050626092620.GA1565@kyuzo.dunkelkammer.void> <200506261742.aa93128@nowhere.iedowse.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="gBBFr7Ir9EOA20Yy" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <200506261742.aa93128@nowhere.iedowse.com> Organization: Infinity Approximation Task Force X-PGP-key: http://www.gegenunendlich.de/swalter-rsa.asc X-PGP-fingerprint: 85D8 6A49 22C7 6CD9 B011 5D6A 5691 111B 12B9 E0B3 User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.9i Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: EHCI: mtools stuck in state 'physrd' or panic X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 26 Jun 2005 18:38:53 -0000 --gBBFr7Ir9EOA20Yy Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Hi, Ian Dowse, 26.06.05, 18:42h CEST: > OpenBSD have a workaround for problems with VIA EHCI controllers > that can cause the hanging symptoms you describe. Below is a patch > that implements their change in FreeBSD's driver. Could you try it > to see if it helps? I just tried, but unfortunately it didn't help. I have exactly the same symptoms with the patch applied. Thanks anyway, Stefan --gBBFr7Ir9EOA20Yy Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.1 (FreeBSD) iQGVAwUBQr72NlaRERsSueCzAQLBbAwAr0J56FDy7fQmHHp9UGaseJnqo351Y6W4 MOt0uqmqM+qqi0IKooVEcxrzHc16guATmvc1wyBcpeqTko748TSZFjxSsnepqU/y jqaWi2rcIqa5vmsHO4d2ba3Uj3BRyjFeDiXOSQ3JlCtp68igLDlAkp8jMKnxdV2F GabVtn3+/W2uzFT6TTN2WpRerujsbOjesruNaszSv3n8YGojtOjk59Km31LbKgEF euTUBYf2TFYO8l3WxnmtfgNoTFMPdUrWYMEfrewIcyYXn0XuJ+M9H4LJjNOQXU4B 1FJnQkwsi62pHEuG1NLxPX6q/s0oIjBJRwvqzFZzQKQme6ieXgImZukgxOlo8R6b s7wUWXtf+u2wJFvPgEey8taw1Gu1mtAfT9jfEtWFEsRGQl8bmqZJ7HXLujL80Auq gYYcwhgCQt1VT7OLDd9YFGUoBFKg+ZZF6aSDCgl/19Mz6zj6p73+K/UiNGQmx/BZ Obe7ll6FEPtJYIsTfKwLbXU+s6kO6+HM =n+Vi -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --gBBFr7Ir9EOA20Yy-- From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jun 26 19:15:27 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4497816A4B3 for ; Sun, 26 Jun 2005 19:15:27 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from leafy7382@gmail.com) Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.192]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 017B743D53 for ; Sun, 26 Jun 2005 19:15:26 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from leafy7382@gmail.com) Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id j2so125557nzf for ; Sun, 26 Jun 2005 12:15:26 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=OglSL8LKhKCnPPqrWrLKm9eVlDXrtUbXmDuSd6ap0ZdR5eKrBcCcoh6IRdlGACzpxmvqhJBRdQ+2IXbvc9rdPX5Po+C14lYO1YF20S4iqMqR8P0XkuxbB6C+eVtJmn7HylJODt46C1itOqc6DmQ3/jykVlW7l6bUirsbuhC1/Dk= Received: by 10.36.108.5 with SMTP id g5mr3303670nzc; Sun, 26 Jun 2005 12:15:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.88.8 with HTTP; Sun, 26 Jun 2005 12:15:25 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Mon, 27 Jun 2005 03:15:25 +0800 From: Jiawei Ye To: Dominic Marks In-Reply-To: <200506261940.16415.dom@goodforbusiness.co.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline References: <200506261929.27681.dom@goodforbusiness.co.uk> <20050626183253.GA51515@lancore.net.ua> <200506261940.16415.dom@goodforbusiness.co.uk> Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: portinstall .vs. make install clean X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Jiawei Ye List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 26 Jun 2005 19:15:28 -0000 On 6/27/05, Dominic Marks wrote: > On Sunday 26 June 2005 19:32, Sergey Spivak wrote: > > Hi! > > > > > portinstall is a ruby program which comes with portupgrade > > > > "portinstall" =3D "portupgrade -N" >=20 > Oh. Makes me wonder why 'portinstall' exists at all. >=20 > -- > Dominic It is a bit more intuitive than "portupgrade -N" IMO. Jiawei Ye --=20 "Without the userland, the kernel is useless." --inspired by The Tao of Programming From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 27 00:46:36 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AFE0A16A41C for ; Mon, 27 Jun 2005 00:46:36 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from lsp3@gte.net) Received: from vms048pub.verizon.net (vms048pub.verizon.net [206.46.252.48]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8E67243D48 for ; Mon, 27 Jun 2005 00:46:36 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from lsp3@gte.net) Received: from Pentium166 ([71.103.102.121]) by vms048.mailsrvcs.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2 HotFix 0.04 (built Dec 24 2004)) with ESMTPA id <0IIP00L7BWTG20JH@vms048.mailsrvcs.net> for freebsd-stable@freebsd.org; Sun, 26 Jun 2005 19:46:29 -0500 (CDT) Date: Sun, 26 Jun 2005 17:42:23 -0700 From: "Leland" To: "Andreas Rudisch" Message-id: <007201c57ab1$167084c0$0c01a8c0@Pentium166> X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal References: <013701c57951$34bf6ec0$0c01a8c0@Pentium166><1119691335.526.19.camel@p4-3200.local> <1119692977.711.3.camel@p4-3200.local> Cc: freebsd-stable Subject: Re: cvsup from 4.11-RELEASE to 4.11-RELEASE-p1 28,000 errors X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 27 Jun 2005 00:46:36 -0000 >----- Original Message ----- >From: Andreas Rudisch >Sent: Saturday, June 25, 2005 2:49 AM >Subject: Re: cvsup from 4.11-RELEASE to 4.11-RELEASE-p1 28,000 errors > > security-supfile: > > #cvsupfile for 5.4-security > *default host=cvsup.no.FreeBSD.org > *default base=/var/db > *default prefix=/usr > *default release=cvs tag=RELENG_5_4 > *default delete use-rel-suffix > *default compress > src-all > >If you really want to get FreeBSD 4.11-p1, then adding the date was correct. >*default date=2005.03.28.15.57.00 (with RELENG_4_11 of course). I thought the '-p1' would have the least number of changes to test cvsup. Changed my 'base' and 'prefix' to match your cvs-supfile, thanks. Using a fresh 4.11 installed all, running the following cvs-supfile still gets 28988 "C " entries in the checkouts.cvs:RELENG_4_11 file. # cvsup -g -L 2 cvs-supfile-src # *default host=cvsup9.us.FreeBSD.org *default base=/var/cvsup *default prefix=/usr/local/etc/cvsup *default release=cvs tag=RELENG_4_11 *default date=2005.03.28.15.57.00 *default delete use-rel-suffix *default compress src-all From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 27 02:26:51 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DC20716A41C for ; Mon, 27 Jun 2005 02:26:51 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from scrappy@hub.org) Received: from hub.org (hub.org [200.46.204.220]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A5AA243D49 for ; Mon, 27 Jun 2005 02:26:51 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from scrappy@hub.org) Received: from localhost (unknown [200.46.204.144]) by hub.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2891864B8D1 for ; Sun, 26 Jun 2005 23:26:51 -0300 (ADT) Received: from hub.org ([200.46.204.220]) by localhost (av.hub.org [200.46.204.144]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 76094-03 for ; Mon, 27 Jun 2005 02:26:45 +0000 (GMT) Received: from ganymede.hub.org (blk-224-176-51.eastlink.ca [24.224.176.51]) by hub.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9542964B83D for ; Sun, 26 Jun 2005 23:26:50 -0300 (ADT) Received: by ganymede.hub.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id AED63474B4; Sun, 26 Jun 2005 23:26:55 -0300 (ADT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ganymede.hub.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AE2DC4695C for ; Sun, 26 Jun 2005 23:26:55 -0300 (ADT) Date: Sun, 26 Jun 2005 23:26:55 -0300 (ADT) From: "Marc G. Fournier" To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20050626232433.O57847@ganymede.hub.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at hub.org Subject: ICP Vortex GDT8546RZ vs 3Ware 9500S-4LP ... ? X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 27 Jun 2005 02:26:52 -0000 Just curious as to if ppl consider one better then the other, or are they about the same? Thanks ... ---- Marc G. Fournier Hub.Org Networking Services (http://www.hub.org) Email: scrappy@hub.org Yahoo!: yscrappy ICQ: 7615664 From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 27 02:34:17 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 918DC16A41C for ; Mon, 27 Jun 2005 02:34:17 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from scrappy@hub.org) Received: from hub.org (hub.org [200.46.204.220]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5ABE743D48 for ; Mon, 27 Jun 2005 02:34:17 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from scrappy@hub.org) Received: from localhost (unknown [200.46.204.144]) by hub.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 09ADA64B8BC for ; Sun, 26 Jun 2005 23:34:17 -0300 (ADT) Received: from hub.org ([200.46.204.220]) by localhost (av.hub.org [200.46.204.144]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 74249-10 for ; Mon, 27 Jun 2005 02:34:11 +0000 (GMT) Received: from ganymede.hub.org (blk-224-176-51.eastlink.ca [24.224.176.51]) by hub.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9C30D64B899 for ; Sun, 26 Jun 2005 23:34:16 -0300 (ADT) Received: by ganymede.hub.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 33BBF47739; Sun, 26 Jun 2005 23:34:22 -0300 (ADT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ganymede.hub.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 309A84695C for ; Sun, 26 Jun 2005 23:34:22 -0300 (ADT) Date: Sun, 26 Jun 2005 23:34:22 -0300 (ADT) From: "Marc G. Fournier" To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20050626233114.G57847@ganymede.hub.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at hub.org Subject: SATA vs SCSI ... X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 27 Jun 2005 02:34:17 -0000 looking at the specs between two cards, the SATA card(s) seem to rate ~100-150MB/s on each channel (if I'm reading right), with both the 3Ware and ICP cards having 4 individual channels ... looking at the SCSI cards, they are rated at 320MB/s, but that is total for the SCSI bus itself, right? So, if I have three drives on a SCSI bus, each 'maxing out evenly', I'd be cap'd at about the same 100MB/s per drive, no? In fact, looking at the SATA 2.x specs, each chanell there is rated at 300MB/s, which, again, if I could 'max out evenly', could seriously blow away the SCSI bus itself ... *If* I'm reading this right ... ? ---- Marc G. Fournier Hub.Org Networking Services (http://www.hub.org) Email: scrappy@hub.org Yahoo!: yscrappy ICQ: 7615664 From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 27 03:15:18 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5B35916A41C for ; Mon, 27 Jun 2005 03:15:18 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from dmagda@ee.ryerson.ca) Received: from tomts20-srv.bellnexxia.net (tomts20.bellnexxia.net [209.226.175.74]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DEBB343D58 for ; Mon, 27 Jun 2005 03:15:17 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from dmagda@ee.ryerson.ca) Received: from [192.168.1.133] ([65.95.108.6]) by tomts20-srv.bellnexxia.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.10 201-253-122-130-110-20040306) with ESMTP id <20050627031516.DRWM19894.tomts20-srv.bellnexxia.net@[192.168.1.133]>; Sun, 26 Jun 2005 23:15:16 -0400 In-Reply-To: <20050626233114.G57847@ganymede.hub.org> References: <20050626233114.G57847@ganymede.hub.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v622) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Message-Id: <3281130fd3a587b4a88a627ae305cb86@ee.ryerson.ca> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: David Magda Date: Sun, 26 Jun 2005 23:15:20 -0400 To: "Marc G. Fournier" X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.622) Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: SATA vs SCSI ... X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: David Magda List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 27 Jun 2005 03:15:18 -0000 On Jun 26, 2005, at 22:34, Marc G. Fournier wrote: > In fact, looking at the SATA 2.x specs, each chanell there is rated at > 300MB/s, which, again, if I could 'max out evenly', could seriously > blow away the SCSI bus itself ... > > *If* I'm reading this right ... ? Bus speed does not equal drive speed. And while yes, SATA is now approaching SCSI in bus speed, it doesn't mean that SCSI isn't standing still. A 640 MB/s bus was standardized in 2003 (though SATA is planned to go to 600MB/s in 2007): http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SCSI#Ultra-640 This has been hashed out many times over the years in comp.periph.scsi (it used to be IDE versus SCSI, not it's (S)ATA versus SCSI). A search through the archives would probably return many results. The SCSI FAQ [1] would also probably be useful. Specifically the questions: QUESTION: What are the pros and cons regarding SCSI vs IDE/ATA ? http://home.comcast.net/~SCSIguy/SCSI_FAQ/scsifaq.html#_Hlk407004722 QUESTION:Should I spend the extra money on SCSI or just get IDE? http://home.comcast.net/~SCSIguy/SCSI_FAQ/scsifaq.html#_Hlk407091459 QUESTION:Why do SCSI disks cost so much more than IDE/ATA disks? http://home.comcast.net/~SCSIguy/SCSI_FAQ/scsifaq.html#_SCSI_Cost002 [1] http://www.scsifaq.org/ From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 27 03:19:24 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7B7AC16A420 for ; Mon, 27 Jun 2005 03:19:24 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from serg@tmn.ru) Received: from sbtx.tmn.ru (sbtx.tmn.ru [212.76.160.49]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B7F6743D55 for ; Mon, 27 Jun 2005 03:19:21 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from serg@tmn.ru) Received: from sv.tech.sibitex.tmn.ru (sv.tech.sibitex.tmn.ru [10.76.160.59]) by sbtx.tmn.ru (8.13.3/8.13.3) with ESMTP id j5R3JJ25046082; Mon, 27 Jun 2005 09:19:19 +0600 (YEKST) (envelope-from serg@tmn.ru) Received: from sv.tech.sibitex.tmn.ru (localhost.tech.sibitex.tmn.ru [127.0.0.1]) by sv.tech.sibitex.tmn.ru (8.13.3/8.13.3) with ESMTP id j5R3JJZK020326; Mon, 27 Jun 2005 09:19:19 +0600 (YEKST) (envelope-from serg@sv.tech.sibitex.tmn.ru) Received: (from serg@localhost) by sv.tech.sibitex.tmn.ru (8.13.3/8.13.3/Submit) id j5R3JJKD020325; Mon, 27 Jun 2005 09:19:19 +0600 (YEKST) (envelope-from serg) Date: Mon, 27 Jun 2005 09:19:18 +0600 From: "Sergey N. Voronkov" To: "Marc G. Fournier" Message-ID: <20050627031918.GA20199@tmn.ru> References: <20050626233114.G57847@ganymede.hub.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20050626233114.G57847@ganymede.hub.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV version 0.86.1, clamav-milter version 0.86 on sbtx.tmn.ru X-Virus-Status: Clean Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: SATA vs SCSI ... X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 27 Jun 2005 03:19:24 -0000 On Sun, Jun 26, 2005 at 11:34:22PM -0300, Marc G. Fournier wrote: > > looking at the specs between two cards, the SATA card(s) seem to rate > ~100-150MB/s on each channel (if I'm reading right), with both the 3Ware > and ICP cards having 4 individual channels ... looking at the SCSI cards, > they are rated at 320MB/s, but that is total for the SCSI bus itself, > right? It is dependant of the card too. You can get a 3 channel Ultra320 card for 3 drive RAID 5... > So, if I have three drives on a SCSI bus, each 'maxing out evenly', I'd > be cap'd at about the same 100MB/s per drive, no? > > In fact, looking at the SATA 2.x specs, each chanell there is rated at > 300MB/s, which, again, if I could 'max out evenly', could seriously blow > away the SCSI bus itself ... That is a theory... > *If* I'm reading this right ... ? And now from my practice: 1) You CAN'T get maximal throuput from 150/160 MB/s bus - the is no such drives today at the market. 2) Avg. seek and access time of 7200 SATA drives are FAR BELOW such of old Seagate Cheetah/Maxtor Athlas 10K. So is a situation with a WD Raptor 10K SATA too - they are SLOWER! (I'm not shure why, but from my test: 2xPIII-1.4/1G RAM/2x36G Cheeta 10K in RAID 1 (AMR Express; One U160 channel) ws. 2xXeon 3.0/2G RAM/2x72G Raptor in RAID 1 (Intel SRCS16; Separate SATA-150 channel for each drive) Ports three checkout is about 20% faster on the first comp. As an result: If you need to have FAST disk subsystem - buy SCSI. If you need large storage or you don't want to pay to much money - buy SATA. Best Ragards, Serg N. Voronkov, Sibitex JSC. From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 27 03:49:04 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C6ED116A41C for ; Mon, 27 Jun 2005 03:49:04 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from B.Wildermoth@griffith.edu.au) Received: from cardea.itc.griffith.edu.au (cardea.itc.griffith.edu.au [132.234.248.147]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7C05143D49 for ; Mon, 27 Jun 2005 03:49:03 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from B.Wildermoth@griffith.edu.au) Received: from [132.234.7.11] (helo=pc083745.me.gu.edu.au) by cardea.itc.griffith.edu.au with esmtp (Exim 4.24) id 1DmkcG-0001zT-HO for freebsd-stable@freebsd.org; Mon, 27 Jun 2005 13:49:00 +1000 From: Brett Wildermoth Organization: Griffith University To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Date: Mon, 27 Jun 2005 13:48:44 +1000 User-Agent: KMail/1.8 References: <20050626233114.G57847@ganymede.hub.org> <20050627031918.GA20199@tmn.ru> In-Reply-To: <20050627031918.GA20199@tmn.ru> X-Face: #"DtK&7^5P|u6yesiHW<_YTpWs>V8v|7J%W[b6O~\9emUr??J}9>jRP`j"a7jaE,2>=?utf-8?q?V=2E=60k=0A=09dX53n=3B0L=3Bz=5BY*=5D80/iO=26?= Subject: Re: SATA vs SCSI ... X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Brett Wildermoth List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 27 Jun 2005 03:49:05 -0000 --nextPart4498072.EARrkH8a5P Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline One other point worth mentioning is that on SATA all transactions are host= =20 generated, while with SCSI devices any device can start a transaction.=20 Transactions can be interleaved better resulting in a higher average=20 throughput. On Mon, 27 Jun 2005 01:19 pm, owner-freebsd-stable@freebsd.org wrote: > On Sun, Jun 26, 2005 at 11:34:22PM -0300, Marc G. Fournier wrote: > > looking at the specs between two cards, the SATA card(s) seem to rate > > ~100-150MB/s on each channel (if I'm reading right), with both the 3Ware > > and ICP cards having 4 individual channels ... looking at the SCSI card= s, > > they are rated at 320MB/s, but that is total for the SCSI bus itself, > > right? > > It is dependant of the card too. You can get a 3 channel Ultra320 card for > 3 drive RAID 5... > > > So, if I have three drives on a SCSI bus, each 'maxing out evenly', I'd > > be cap'd at about the same 100MB/s per drive, no? > > > > In fact, looking at the SATA 2.x specs, each chanell there is rated at > > 300MB/s, which, again, if I could 'max out evenly', could seriously blow > > away the SCSI bus itself ... > > That is a theory... > > > *If* I'm reading this right ... ? > > And now from my practice: > > 1) You CAN'T get maximal throuput from 150/160 MB/s bus - the is no such > drives today at the market. > > 2) Avg. seek and access time of 7200 SATA drives are FAR BELOW such of old > Seagate Cheetah/Maxtor Athlas 10K. So is a situation with a WD Raptor 10K > SATA too - they are SLOWER! (I'm not shure why, but from my test: > > 2xPIII-1.4/1G RAM/2x36G Cheeta 10K in RAID 1 (AMR Express; One U160 > channel) ws. > 2xXeon 3.0/2G RAM/2x72G Raptor in RAID 1 (Intel SRCS16; Separate SATA-150 > channel for each drive) > > Ports three checkout is about 20% faster on the first comp. > > As an result: If you need to have FAST disk subsystem - buy SCSI. If you > need large storage or you don't want to pay to much money - buy SATA. > > Best Ragards, > > Serg N. Voronkov, > Sibitex JSC. > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-stable-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" =2D-=20 =2D------------------------------------------------------------------ Brett Wildermoth BEng(ME) MPhil Lecturer / PhD Student School of Microelectronic Engineering Faculty of Engineering and Info. Tech. Ph. +61 7 3875 5063, Fax. +61 7 3875 5384 Email. B.Wildermoth@grifith.edu.au =2D------------------------------------------------------------------ --nextPart4498072.EARrkH8a5P Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.1 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQBCv3clbSsZm/bQWSwRAon+AKCSUirKNRM1BJj3N8RLd8qk6t/tDgCgny9n I4CLUN6L7razijKXDsnE5pE= =CtE2 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --nextPart4498072.EARrkH8a5P-- From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 27 05:01:11 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0231B16A41C for ; Mon, 27 Jun 2005 05:01:11 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from matt@atopia.net) Received: from neptune.atopia.net (neptune.atopia.net [209.128.231.90]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CD30643D53 for ; Mon, 27 Jun 2005 05:01:10 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from matt@atopia.net) Received: from [192.168.0.102] (pcp173257pcs.plsntv01.nj.comcast.net [68.46.70.16]) by neptune.atopia.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5140A412A for ; Mon, 27 Jun 2005 01:01:10 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <42BF8815.6090909@atopia.net> Date: Mon, 27 Jun 2005 01:01:09 -0400 From: Matt Juszczak User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 0.9 (X11/20041129) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: FreeBSD -STABLE servers repeatedly crashing. X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 27 Jun 2005 05:01:11 -0000 Hello all, About three weeks ago, I upgraded my 5.3-RELEASE boxes to 5.4-RELEASE. I also turned on procmail globally on our mail server. Here is our current FreeBSD server setup: URANUS - primary ldap CALIBAN - secondary ldap ORION - primary mail Orion was the first one to crash, about three weeks ago. Orion is constantly talking to uranus, because uranus is our primary ldap server (we have a planet scheme), and caliban is our secondary ldap server. I ran an email flood test on orion to see if I could crash it again. This time, the high requests on Uranus caused Uranus to crash. With two different servers on two different hardware setups crashing, I had to start thinking of what could be causing the problem. Memory tests on both servers came back OK. Orion had some ECC errors which it was able to fix. I wasn't able to catch orion's first crash, but I was able to catch uranus's first crash: http://paste.atopia.net/126 I have the other crashes written down in pencil at my work. They all say mostly the same thing. I assume Caliban would also experience this behavior, but because it does not receive much load at all (only does anything when uranus dies), I am not able to confirm this. The only thing similar between the boxes is that all three have two processors in them, and are running SMP. Orion had hyperthreading turned on but I disabled this in the bios, to no avail. Someone with similar experiences running SMP informed to upgrade to -STABLE as of last week. For almost a week, Orion ran fine. This evening; however, Orion once again crashed, its fourth time in three weeks. Uranus has been stable for a few days but I am expecting it to crash again any day now (they usually take between 4-6 days). So now I am stuck. I have two -STABLE machines which continue to cause kernel traps. Tomorrow, I am going to compile a debugging kernel on orion and try to let it crash again to see what kind of errors it reports, but I was wondering if anyone else is experiencing these problems. Thanks in advance, Matt Juszczak From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 27 06:10:34 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B2BF916A41C for ; Mon, 27 Jun 2005 06:10:34 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from matrix@itlegion.ru) Received: from osiris.itlegion.ru (osiris.itlegion.ru [84.21.226.210]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 326CD43D58 for ; Mon, 27 Jun 2005 06:10:33 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from matrix@itlegion.ru) Received: from artem ([192.168.0.12]) by osiris.itlegion.ru (8.13.3/8.13.1) with SMTP id j5R6AUgJ037659; Mon, 27 Jun 2005 10:10:31 +0400 (MSD) (envelope-from matrix@itlegion.ru) X-AntiVirus: Checked by Dr.Web [version: 4.32b, engine: 4.32b, virus records: 78694, updated: 26.06.2005] Message-ID: <004201c57adf$49367ad0$0c00a8c0@artem> From: "Artem Kuchin" To: "Marc G. Fournier" , References: <20050626233114.G57847@ganymede.hub.org> Date: Mon, 27 Jun 2005 10:13:04 +0400 Organization: IT Legion MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="ISO-8859-1"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 Cc: Subject: Re: SATA vs SCSI ... X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 27 Jun 2005 06:10:34 -0000 Marc G. Fournier wrote: > looking at the specs between two cards, the SATA card(s) seem to rate > ~100-150MB/s on each channel (if I'm reading right), with both the > 3Ware and ICP cards having 4 individual channels ... looking at the > SCSI cards, they are rated at 320MB/s, but that is total for the SCSI > bus itself, right? > > So, if I have three drives on a SCSI bus, each 'maxing out evenly', > I'd be cap'd at about the same 100MB/s per drive, no? > > In fact, looking at the SATA 2.x specs, each chanell there is rated at > 300MB/s, which, again, if I could 'max out evenly', could seriously > blow away the SCSI bus itself ... > > *If* I'm reading this right ... ? For the last 6 month i really think that if you don't need something high-end scsi then you should go for SATA. There are test on sites such as Tom's hardware guide and ixbt.com. They show then on sequrncial read there is no difference between scsi and sata. Acatuallty, modern hdds use the same mechanics for sata and scsi versions of them. The brains (electronics) on the hdds are different of course. However, when it comes to random read/writes scsi wins because of command queueing. This was an issue until recently, Recently SATA with NCQ became widly available. Test show that some of those SATA disks with NCW ***WIN*** over scsi 320. The test envolve artificialy random read/write tests as well as real application benchmarking. I din't rememeber where excatly i saw the tests on those site, but you could search. So, my opinion, workstation never needs SCSI and every server MUST be on mirror or RAID5 and there you should use SATA with NCQ drivers unless, your applicaton is really weird and needs something extremely speedy. Then, however, you could go for RAID 0+1 and get perfomance that SCSI will never get you. -- Regards, Artem Kuchin IT Legion Ltd. Moscow, Russia www.itlegion.ru matrix@itlegion.ru +7 095 232-0338 From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 27 06:29:12 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7ECF816A41C for ; Mon, 27 Jun 2005 06:29:12 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from hausen@punkt.de) Received: from gate.ka.punkt.de (kagate.punkt.de [217.29.33.131]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 109D043D1F for ; Mon, 27 Jun 2005 06:29:11 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from hausen@punkt.de) Received: from hugo10.ka.punkt.de (hugo10.ka.punkt.de [10.0.0.110]) by gate.ka.punkt.de with ESMTP id j5R6PQWX027977 for ; Mon, 27 Jun 2005 08:25:26 +0200 (CEST) Received: from hugo10.ka.punkt.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hugo10.ka.punkt.de (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id j5R6T9uL050452; Mon, 27 Jun 2005 08:29:09 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from ry93@hugo10.ka.punkt.de) Received: (from ry93@localhost) by hugo10.ka.punkt.de (8.12.10/8.12.10/Submit) id j5R6T9dZ050451; Mon, 27 Jun 2005 08:29:09 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from ry93) From: "Patrick M. Hausen" Message-Id: <200506270629.j5R6T9dZ050451@hugo10.ka.punkt.de> In-Reply-To: <20050627031918.GA20199@tmn.ru> To: "Sergey N. Voronkov" Date: Mon, 27 Jun 2005 08:29:09 +0200 (CEST) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL99f (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: SATA vs SCSI ... X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 27 Jun 2005 06:29:12 -0000 Hi! > As an result: If you need to have FAST disk subsystem - buy SCSI. If you need > large storage or you don't want to pay to much money - buy SATA. Seconded. SATA offers larger capacity per buck. If price/performance is important, I'd seriously consider the ICP SATA cards. Another note: if you need the fastest disk subsystem you can buy, don't even think about implementing RAID5. Go for 1+0 instead. And buy an ICP card ;-) Another big plus for SCSI: unattended "auto" hot plug. If you have a RAID1+0 with 6 disks and without a hot spare (as we do - we needed "fast" and "as much as we can cram in the box") and if your hot plug backplane ist "SAFE-TE" compliant (another one of those beloved standards), then the cleaning staff could change a broken disk drive. The ICP card will automatically start the necessary rebuild if you exchange a broken disk with a factory new one. This could be important if you need 24x7 and don't have a qualified operator on site all the time. No need to start the RAID config utility. HTH, Patrick M. Hausen Leiter Netzwerke und Sicherheit -- punkt.de GmbH Internet - Dienstleistungen - Beratung Vorholzstr. 25 Tel. 0721 9109 -0 Fax: -100 76137 Karlsruhe http://punkt.de From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 27 06:31:07 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5798316A41C for ; Mon, 27 Jun 2005 06:31:07 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ob@gruft.de) Received: from obh.snafu.de (obh.snafu.de [213.73.92.34]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0894C43D1D for ; Mon, 27 Jun 2005 06:31:06 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ob@gruft.de) Received: from ob by obh.snafu.de with local (Exim 4.51 (FreeBSD)) id 1Dmn91-000HB1-J2 for freebsd-stable@freebsd.org; Mon, 27 Jun 2005 08:30:59 +0200 Date: Mon, 27 Jun 2005 08:30:59 +0200 From: Oliver Brandmueller To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20050627063059.GA36150@e-Gitt.NET> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org References: <20050626232433.O57847@ganymede.hub.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20050626232433.O57847@ganymede.hub.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.9i Sender: Oliver Brandmueller Subject: Re: ICP Vortex GDT8546RZ vs 3Ware 9500S-4LP ... ? X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 27 Jun 2005 06:31:07 -0000 Hi. On Sun, Jun 26, 2005 at 11:26:55PM -0300, Marc G. Fournier wrote: > Just curious as to if ppl consider one better then the other, or are they > about the same? Both are quite fast, both bring software. We replaced our 3ware controllers since we had what seems a compatibility problem between the controller and out harddisks (Western Digital 74 GB 10krpm Raptors): Occasionally on the 3ware a random disk dropped out of our RAID 10. You had to remove power from the disk(!) first, to get it acknowledged again by the controller and then do a rebuild. This seems to occur only on very high I/O loads and we could not explicitly trigger it. Sometimes it happened twice a week in one machine, sometime it did not happen several weeks on all 5 machines with this setup. We have no problem with the 3ware and other disks. We have no problems with these disks on the ICP Vortex. For the software: 3ware gives you a cli, which is quite handy when it comes to writing a nagios plugin or doing the usual maintenance stuff. The commands are not straight forward in the first view, but it's easy to understand the concept behind. The big pro here is, that you can handle everything even in Shell scripts (you can just call the cli with the right commands, the output is somewhat parseable). There's no generic way for SNMP access, though. ICP comes with a management console (it's a curses interface, it's exactly the same as going into the controller BIOS on boot) and a management daemon. The management console (icpcon) is pretty straight forward, you can get a lot of information (like watching io rates on all the subsystems down to disk level, getting S.M.A.R.T. info and so on). This interface is not usable in a batch (like getting a status for a nagios plugin or so), you can write out an info file, which is hardly machine parseable. You have the daemon (srcd) to do the monitoring. The daemon can be connected by management consoles (so you don't need to logon the host to monitor or write the info file from), it can send SNMP traps and it can start commands in case of events. It cannot be queried by SNMP. We're very comfortable with the ICPs now, but exchanging the slightly cheaper 3wares was mainly done because of the drive problems mentioned before. - Oliver -- | Oliver Brandmueller | Offenbacher Str. 1 | Germany D-14197 Berlin | | Fon +49-172-3130856 | Fax +49-172-3145027 | WWW: http://the.addict.de/ | | Ich bin das Internet. Sowahr ich Gott helfe. | | Eine gewerbliche Nutzung aller enthaltenen Adressen ist nicht gestattet! | From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 27 06:37:58 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DC9C416A41C for ; Mon, 27 Jun 2005 06:37:58 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from martin@gneto.com) Received: from mxfep02.bredband.com (mxfep02.bredband.com [195.54.107.73]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3E16943D49 for ; Mon, 27 Jun 2005 06:37:57 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from martin@gneto.com) Received: from as6-1-5.kr.m.bonet.se ([83.227.181.30] [83.227.181.30]) by mxfep02.bredband.com with ESMTP id <20050627063755.CQLL12835.mxfep02.bredband.com@as6-1-5.kr.m.bonet.se>; Mon, 27 Jun 2005 08:37:55 +0200 Received: from [192.168.10.11] (euklides.gneto.com [192.168.10.11]) by as6-1-5.kr.m.bonet.se (Postfix) with ESMTP id D486C678B9; Mon, 27 Jun 2005 08:37:54 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <42BF9EC2.1060203@gneto.com> Date: Mon, 27 Jun 2005 08:37:54 +0200 From: Martin Nilsson User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.2 (X11/20050326) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Artem Kuchin References: <20050626233114.G57847@ganymede.hub.org> <004201c57adf$49367ad0$0c00a8c0@artem> In-Reply-To: <004201c57adf$49367ad0$0c00a8c0@artem> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: SATA vs SCSI ... X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 27 Jun 2005 06:37:59 -0000 Artem Kuchin wrote: > Marc G. Fournier wrote: > > For the last 6 month i really think that if you don't need something > high-end scsi then you should go for SATA. Fair enough if you don't need high-end yoy shuld go lowend. But read on.. > There are test on sites such as > Tom's hardware guide and ixbt.com. They show then on sequrncial read > there is no difference between scsi and sata. That is a well known fact. It is also a totally useless parameter for server use. > Acatuallty, modern hdds use the same mechanics for sata and scsi > versions of them. The brains This is simply not true. There were a couple of drives about 10yrs ago where this was true eg. Quantum Lightning which were available in both IDE and SCSI Todays SCSI drives have _nothing_ in common with SATA/ATA drives. > However, when it comes to random read/writesscsi wins because of > command queueing. And faster accesstime and higher rotational speed (lower latency) you simply can't compare a 7200rpm drive to a 15000rpm drive no matter what interface it has. > Recently SATA with NCQ became widly available. Test show that some of those > SATA disks with NCW ***WIN*** over scsi 320. To use NCQ drive, controller and OS needs to support it, only a few controllers supports NCQ and FreeBSD have no support at all! > The test envolve artificialy randomread/write tests as well as > real application benchmarking. I din't rememeber where > excatly i saw the tests on those site, but you could search. The tests on tomshardware are windows single user centric, they never test server workloads, their audience are kids who plays games... > So, my opinion, workstation never needs SCSI and every server MUST be on > mirror or RAID5 and there you should use SATA with NCQ drivers unless, > your applicaton is really weird and needs something extremely speedy. > Then, however, > you could go for RAID 0+1 and get perfomance that SCSI will never get you. Want something cheap with lots of space? SATA Want something that works and is fast? SCSI Using SATA for databases and mailservers is going to give you bad performance. Regards, Martin -- Martin Nilsson, CTO & Founder, Mullet Scandinavia AB, Malmö, SWEDEN E-mail: martin@mullet.se, Phone: +46-(0)708-606170, Web: www.mullet.se Our business is well engineered servers optimised for FreeBSD & Linux From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 27 07:16:57 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F087516A41C for ; Mon, 27 Jun 2005 07:16:56 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from rees@ddcom.co.jp) Received: from proxy.ddcom.co.jp (proxy.ddcom.co.jp [211.121.191.163]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 765BD43D1D for ; Mon, 27 Jun 2005 07:16:55 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from rees@ddcom.co.jp) Received: (qmail 23716 invoked by alias); 27 Jun 2005 07:27:06 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO matthew) (10.10.10.11) by mail.ddcom.local with SMTP; 27 Jun 2005 07:27:06 -0000 Date: Mon, 27 Jun 2005 16:16:55 +0900 From: Joel To: In-Reply-To: <004201c57adf$49367ad0$0c00a8c0@artem> References: <20050626233114.G57847@ganymede.hub.org> <004201c57adf$49367ad0$0c00a8c0@artem> Message-Id: <20050627152046.0F0C.REES@ddcom.co.jp> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-2022-JP" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Becky! ver. 2.00.06 Subject: Re: SATA vs SCSI ... X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 27 Jun 2005 07:16:57 -0000 On Mon, 27 Jun 2005 10:13:04 +0400 "Artem Kuchin" wrote > Marc G. Fournier wrote: > > looking at the specs between two cards, the SATA card(s) seem to rate > > ~100-150MB/s on each channel (if I'm reading right), with both the > > 3Ware and ICP cards having 4 individual channels ... looking at the > > SCSI cards, they are rated at 320MB/s, but that is total for the SCSI > > bus itself, right? > > > > So, if I have three drives on a SCSI bus, each 'maxing out evenly', > > I'd be cap'd at about the same 100MB/s per drive, no? > > > > In fact, looking at the SATA 2.x specs, each chanell there is rated at > > 300MB/s, which, again, if I could 'max out evenly', could seriously > > blow away the SCSI bus itself ... > > > > *If* I'm reading this right ... ? > > For the last 6 month i really think that if you don't need something high-end > scsi then you should go for SATA. There are test on sites such as > Tom's hardware guide and ixbt.com. I'm always pretty cautious about how much trust I give those benchmarks done by fanboy sites. Interesting stuff, but if it's mission critical and benchmark is important, I'm going to design and run the benchmark myself. And I'll cost that in when I give the estimate to the customer, if the customer wants SATA. (I think of a recent benchmark of Mac OS X/PPC and MySQL and nobody mentioning sync issues in the benchmark article.) > They show then on sequrncial read > there is no difference between scsi and sata. Acatuallty, modern hdds use > the same mechanics for sata and scsi versions of them. The brains (electronics) > on the hdds are different of course. However, when it comes to random read/writes > scsi wins because of command queueing. This was an issue until recently, > Recently SATA with NCQ became widly available. Test show that some of those > SATA disks with NCW ***WIN*** over scsi 320. The test envolve artificialy random > read/write tests as well as real application benchmarking. I din't rememeber where > excatly i saw the tests on those site, but you could search. Well, I've been fighting on and off for about four weeks with an ATAPI drive with SMART reporting bad sectors, and I'll offer this: when you cost an ATAPI/SATA hard drive, make sure you factor in the cost of backup/mirror. Considering the business about Mac OS X and MySQL and sync, I'd factor in UPS as well. Make sure you set it up to start taking the system down long enough before the battery gives out that the drives have plenty of time to clear their internal cache. > So, my opinion, workstation never needs SCSI and every server MUST be > on mirror or RAID5 and there you should use SATA with NCQ drivers unless, > your applicaton is really weird and needs something extremely speedy. Then, however, > you could go for RAID 0+1 and get perfomance that SCSI will never get you. Now that I have a bad taste in my mouth from SMART, I'm interpreting that as "three SATA drives in RAID5 equals one SCSI drive". Contrary to what you expect, I do not expect performance from that. -- Joel Rees digitcom, inc. $B3t<02q ** From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 27 07:26:21 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9893016A41C for ; Mon, 27 Jun 2005 07:26:21 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from e-kamo@trio.plala.or.jp) Received: from mvs1.plala.or.jp (c158129.vh.plala.or.jp [210.150.158.129]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1373543D1F for ; Mon, 27 Jun 2005 07:26:20 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from e-kamo@trio.plala.or.jp) Received: from msc2.plala.or.jp ([172.23.8.25]) by mvs1.plala.or.jp with ESMTP id <20050627072617.HPEP15872.mvs1.plala.or.jp@msc2.plala.or.jp>; Mon, 27 Jun 2005 16:26:17 +0900 Received: from [192.168.35.8] ([220.33.68.80]) by msc2.plala.or.jp with ESMTP id <20050627072617.IYVZ17963.msc2.plala.or.jp@[192.168.35.8]>; Mon, 27 Jun 2005 16:26:17 +0900 Message-ID: <42BFAA19.5010208@trio.plala.or.jp> Date: Mon, 27 Jun 2005 16:26:17 +0900 From: Eitarou Kamo User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (X11/20041206) X-Accept-Language: ja, en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Brooks Davis , freebsd-stable@freebsd.org References: <42B0E56B.4030609@trio.plala.or.jp> <200506161458.51227.doconnor@gsoft.com.au> <42B1C686.4090502@computer.org> <20050616184040.GI21733@odin.ac.hmc.edu> In-Reply-To: <20050616184040.GI21733@odin.ac.hmc.edu> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.90.2.0 X-Enigmail-Supports: pgp-inline, pgp-mime Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Subject: Re: Atheros drirve X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 27 Jun 2005 07:26:21 -0000 >It's -current only as it requires incompatable API changes to the >interface code. > > > I compiled WPA_Supplicant yesterday on 5.4. But ........ Is there any plan back-port it to -stable? Eitarou > > From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 27 07:54:13 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DC78816A41C for ; Mon, 27 Jun 2005 07:54:13 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from "cyb."@gmx.net) Received: from mail.gmx.net (mail.gmx.net [213.165.64.20]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 44C6043D49 for ; Mon, 27 Jun 2005 07:54:12 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from "cyb."@gmx.net) Received: (qmail invoked by alias); 27 Jun 2005 07:54:10 -0000 Received: from pD952D844.dip0.t-ipconnect.de (EHLO p4-3200.local) [217.82.216.68] by mail.gmx.net (mp002) with SMTP; 27 Jun 2005 09:54:10 +0200 X-Authenticated: #4870692 From: Andreas Rudisch To: Leland In-Reply-To: <007201c57ab1$167084c0$0c01a8c0@Pentium166> References: <013701c57951$34bf6ec0$0c01a8c0@Pentium166> <1119691335.526.19.camel@p4-3200.local> <1119692977.711.3.camel@p4-3200.local> <007201c57ab1$167084c0$0c01a8c0@Pentium166> Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="=-ts925bLS5R6HsyjIUT8K" Date: Mon, 27 Jun 2005 09:54:08 +0200 Message-Id: <1119858848.526.15.camel@p4-3200.local> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.2.3 FreeBSD GNOME Team Port X-Y-GMX-Trusted: 0 Cc: freebsd-stable Subject: Re: cvsup from 4.11-RELEASE to 4.11-RELEASE-p1 28,000 errors X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 27 Jun 2005 07:54:14 -0000 --=-ts925bLS5R6HsyjIUT8K Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sun, 2005-06-26 at 17:42 -0700, Leland wrote: > I thought the '-p1' would have the least number of changes to test cvsup= . > Changed my 'base' and 'prefix' to match your cvs-supfile, thanks. >=20 > Using a fresh 4.11 installed all, running the following cvs-supfile still > gets 28988 > "C " entries in the checkouts.cvs:RELENG_4_11 file. >=20 > # cvsup -g -L 2 cvs-supfile-src > # > *default host=3Dcvsup9.us.FreeBSD.org > *default base=3D/var/cvsup > *default prefix=3D/usr/local/etc/cvsup > *default release=3Dcvs tag=3DRELENG_4_11 > *default date=3D2005.03.28.15.57.00 > *default delete use-rel-suffix > *default compress > src-all Taken from 'man cvsup': base=3Dbase This specifies a directory under which cvsup will maintain its bookkeeping files, describing the state of each collec- tion on the client machine. The base directory must already exist; cvsup will not create it. The default base directory is /usr/local/etc/cvsup. prefix=3Dprefix This is the directory under which updated files will be placed. By default, it is the same as base. If it is not an absolute pathname, it is interpreted relative to base. The prefix directory must already exist; cvsup will not create it. The base directory will contain the status files of cvsup. But prefix is the important options since it sets the directory name where the real files will be stored that you want to update. The source code of FreeBSD is usually located in /usr/src , so make sure you have installed the source of 4.11-RELEASE from the CD or from an ftp-server using sysinstall. If cvsup does not find any files to update in the prefix-folder, it will download ALL new files. This is probably what happend to you. Use: *default prefix=3D/usr and get rid of the date-line, it should work now and why update to an outdated version if there is no need to. Have fun. Andreas --=20 GnuPG key : 0xD25FCC81 | http://cyb.websimplex.de/pubkey.asc Fingerprint: D182 6F22 7EEC DD4C 0F6E 564C 691B 0372 D25F CC81 --=-ts925bLS5R6HsyjIUT8K Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Description: This is a digitally signed message part -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.1 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQBCv7CgaRsDctJfzIERAmenAJ4gpMJWnXztnPc2HhKcTIaT6VWnQACgjFIL XX6Psbrz5bz6w5hzbbPTA4Q= =k2W+ -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --=-ts925bLS5R6HsyjIUT8K-- From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 27 08:19:40 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.org Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5386C16A41C for ; Mon, 27 Jun 2005 08:19:40 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from glebius@FreeBSD.org) Received: from relay.bestcom.ru (relay.bestcom.ru [217.72.144.5]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B689A43D1F for ; Mon, 27 Jun 2005 08:19:39 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from glebius@FreeBSD.org) Received: from cell.sick.ru (root@cell.sick.ru [217.72.144.68]) by relay.bestcom.ru (8.13.1/8.12.9) with ESMTP id j5R8JZ9K077808 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=FAIL); Mon, 27 Jun 2005 12:19:36 +0400 (MSD) (envelope-from glebius@FreeBSD.org) Received: from cell.sick.ru (glebius@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by cell.sick.ru (8.13.1/8.12.8) with ESMTP id j5R8JYwG097899 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Mon, 27 Jun 2005 12:19:35 +0400 (MSD) (envelope-from glebius@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from glebius@localhost) by cell.sick.ru (8.13.1/8.13.1/Submit) id j5R8JX8e097898; Mon, 27 Jun 2005 12:19:33 +0400 (MSD) (envelope-from glebius@FreeBSD.org) X-Authentication-Warning: cell.sick.ru: glebius set sender to glebius@FreeBSD.org using -f Date: Mon, 27 Jun 2005 12:19:33 +0400 From: Gleb Smirnoff To: Matt Juszczak Message-ID: <20050627081933.GA97832@cell.sick.ru> References: <42BF8815.6090909@atopia.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=koi8-r Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <42BF8815.6090909@atopia.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.6i X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV version devel-20050125, clamav-milter version 0.80ff on relay.bestcom.ru X-Virus-Status: Clean Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD -STABLE servers repeatedly crashing. X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 27 Jun 2005 08:19:40 -0000 On Mon, Jun 27, 2005 at 01:01:09AM -0400, Matt Juszczak wrote: M> About three weeks ago, I upgraded my 5.3-RELEASE boxes to 5.4-RELEASE. M> I also turned on procmail globally on our mail server. Here is our M> current FreeBSD server setup: M> M> URANUS - primary ldap M> CALIBAN - secondary ldap M> ORION - primary mail M> M> Orion was the first one to crash, about three weeks ago. Orion is M> constantly talking to uranus, because uranus is our primary ldap server M> (we have a planet scheme), and caliban is our secondary ldap server. I M> ran an email flood test on orion to see if I could crash it again. This M> time, the high requests on Uranus caused Uranus to crash. With two M> different servers on two different hardware setups crashing, I had to M> start thinking of what could be causing the problem. M> M> Memory tests on both servers came back OK. Orion had some ECC errors M> which it was able to fix. I wasn't able to catch orion's first crash, M> but I was able to catch uranus's first crash: M> M> http://paste.atopia.net/126 Can you please build kernel with debugging and obtain a crashdump? -- Totus tuus, Glebius. GLEBIUS-RIPN GLEB-RIPE From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 27 08:22:47 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 16FC816A41C for ; Mon, 27 Jun 2005 08:22:47 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ade@FreeBSD.org) Received: from mail.lovett.com (foo.lovett.com [67.134.38.158]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EC0D743D49 for ; Mon, 27 Jun 2005 08:22:46 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ade@FreeBSD.org) Received: from hellfire.lovett.com ([67.134.38.149]:56407) by mail.lovett.com with esmtpa (Exim 4.51 (FreeBSD)) id 1DmotB-000Hkq-Hw; Mon, 27 Jun 2005 01:22:45 -0700 Message-ID: <42BFB78E.8000805@FreeBSD.org> Date: Mon, 27 Jun 2005 01:23:42 -0700 From: Ade Lovett User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.2 (Macintosh/20050317) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Marc G. Fournier" References: <20050626233114.G57847@ganymede.hub.org> In-Reply-To: <20050626233114.G57847@ganymede.hub.org> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.91.0.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: ade@lovett.com Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: SATA vs SCSI ... X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 27 Jun 2005 08:22:47 -0000 Marc G. Fournier wrote: > > looking at the specs between two cards, the SATA card(s) seem to rate > ~100-150MB/s on each channel (if I'm reading right), with both the 3Ware > and ICP cards having 4 individual channels ... looking at the SCSI > cards, they are rated at 320MB/s, but that is total for the SCSI bus > itself, right? [snip] As is often the case, these kind of comparisons are only working against one side of the equation: "What happens when the system is operational" Now, for your average desktop system, the converse: "What happens when things break" becomes negligable. Slap in new drive, slap in DVD/CD install media, Do Stuff[tm], make working system. In the Non-Stop (probably a trademark of Tandem) server-class world, things work somewhat differently. This is why we run postgresql instead of mysql. This is also the reason we run U320 SCSI enclosures at twice the cost of equivalent SATA systems. The extra cash is well spent when things go wrong. Absolute performance (assuming it can be measured correctly for the specific environment you're in, as opposed to marketing figures) counts for less than 50% of the whole equation when it comes to the purchase decision. -aDe From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 27 08:30:03 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.org Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 69C9516A41C for ; Mon, 27 Jun 2005 08:30:03 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from glebius@FreeBSD.org) Received: from relay.bestcom.ru (relay.bestcom.ru [217.72.144.5]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CF4AA43D53 for ; Mon, 27 Jun 2005 08:30:02 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from glebius@FreeBSD.org) Received: from cell.sick.ru (root@cell.sick.ru [217.72.144.68]) by relay.bestcom.ru (8.13.1/8.12.9) with ESMTP id j5R8Tx99078169 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=FAIL); Mon, 27 Jun 2005 12:30:00 +0400 (MSD) (envelope-from glebius@FreeBSD.org) Received: from cell.sick.ru (glebius@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by cell.sick.ru (8.13.1/8.12.8) with ESMTP id j5R8Txoa098052 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Mon, 27 Jun 2005 12:29:59 +0400 (MSD) (envelope-from glebius@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from glebius@localhost) by cell.sick.ru (8.13.1/8.13.1/Submit) id j5R8TwFa098051; Mon, 27 Jun 2005 12:29:58 +0400 (MSD) (envelope-from glebius@FreeBSD.org) X-Authentication-Warning: cell.sick.ru: glebius set sender to glebius@FreeBSD.org using -f Date: Mon, 27 Jun 2005 12:29:58 +0400 From: Gleb Smirnoff To: Gary Mu1der Message-ID: <20050627082958.GB97832@cell.sick.ru> References: <20050621070427.GA738@obiwan.tataz.chchile.org> <20050621090701.GB34406@cell.sick.ru> <20050621105154.GA36538@cell.sick.ru> <42B961B9.7A5856B3@freebsd.org> <20050623104230.GB61389@cell.sick.ru> <20050623141514.GD738@obiwan.tataz.chchile.org> <42BC5EE2.2020003@infotechfl.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=koi8-r Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <42BC5EE2.2020003@infotechfl.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.6i X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV version devel-20050125, clamav-milter version 0.80ff on relay.bestcom.ru X-Virus-Status: Clean Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: panic in RELENG_5 UMA X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 27 Jun 2005 08:30:03 -0000 On Fri, Jun 24, 2005 at 03:28:34PM -0400, Gary Mu1der wrote: G> Can someone confirm that the following stack trace is showing the same G> problem, or not? G> I can reproduce the problem with the custom kernel config included below G> (which is basically GENERIC stripped of devices I don't have or need and G> IPFILTER added), but not with a stock GENERIC kernel. G> G> To cause the crash I'm running 20-30 instances of the following script: G> G> d5# cat arping.sh G> #!/bin/sh G> G> while : G> do G> arp -d 192.168.4.$1 >/dev/null 2>&1; G> ping -c 1 -t 1 192.168.4.$1 >/dev/null 2>&1; G> done When running without INVARIANTS, it is much more difficult to analyze panics. If this script drops your kernel to panic, then it is very likely that it is the same problem. Can you please provide the following info: G> (kgdb) bt G> #0 doadump () at pcpu.h:167 G> #1 0x0000000000000000 in ?? () G> #2 0xffffffff802557b7 in boot (howto=260) at G> /usr/src/sys/kern/kern_shutdown.c:410 G> #3 0xffffffff80255fef in panic (fmt=0xffffff00b5907500 " ?6?") G> at /usr/src/sys/kern/kern_shutdown.c:566 (kgdb) p *panicstr G> #4 0xffffffff8029ad2a in sbdrop_locked (sb=0xffffffffb6274860, len=1146) G> at /usr/src/sys/kern/uipc_socket2.c:1149 (kgdb) frame 4 (kgdb) ls (kgdb) p *m G> #5 0xffffffff8029afe2 in sbflush_locked (sb=0xffffffffb6274860) G> at /usr/src/sys/kern/uipc_socket2.c:1116 G> #6 0xffffffff8029b049 in sbrelease_locked (sb=0xffffffffb6274860, G> so=0xffffff00a0a2a8a0) G> at /usr/src/sys/kern/uipc_socket2.c:564 G> #7 0xffffffff8029b0d5 in sbrelease (sb=0xffffffffb6274860, G> so=0xffffff00a0a2a8a0) G> at /usr/src/sys/kern/uipc_socket2.c:577 G> #8 0xffffffff80297b03 in sorflush (so=0xffffff00a0a2a8a0) G> at /usr/src/sys/kern/uipc_socket.c:1483 G> #9 0xffffffff80297e42 in sofree (so=0xffffff00a0a2a8a0) at G> /usr/src/sys/kern/uipc_socket.c:407 G> #10 0xffffffff80298467 in soclose (so=0xffffff00a0a2a8a0) at G> /usr/src/sys/kern/uipc_socket.c:485 G> #11 0xffffffff802847b5 in soo_close (fp=0xffffff009ca95b60, td=0x0) G> at /usr/src/sys/kern/sys_socket.c:299 G> #12 0xffffffff8022c2c0 in fdrop_locked (fp=0xffffff009ca95b60, G> td=0xffffff00b5907500) G> at file.h:288 (kgdb) frame 12 (kgdb) p *td (kgdb) p *td->td_proc G> #13 0xffffffff8022c40a in closef (fp=0xffffff009ca95b60, -- Totus tuus, Glebius. GLEBIUS-RIPN GLEB-RIPE From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 27 08:45:43 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9BBFD16A41C; Mon, 27 Jun 2005 08:45:43 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from gabor.kovesdan@t-hosting.hu) Received: from viefep17-int.chello.at (viefep17-int.chello.at [213.46.255.23]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A6B3F43D49; Mon, 27 Jun 2005 08:45:42 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from gabor.kovesdan@t-hosting.hu) Received: from [80.98.156.20] by viefep17-int.chello.at (InterMail vM.6.01.04.04 201-2131-118-104-20050224) with ESMTP id <20050627084540.LSJS19956.viefep17-int.chello.at@[80.98.156.20]>; Mon, 27 Jun 2005 10:45:40 +0200 Message-ID: <42BFBCAF.9040001@t-hosting.hu> Date: Mon, 27 Jun 2005 10:45:35 +0200 From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?K=F6vesd=E1n_G=E1bor?= User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.2 (Windows/20050317) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Cc: Subject: bsdextended mac module question X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 27 Jun 2005 08:45:43 -0000 Hello, I try to make a bsdextended mac policy and when I add the following rule, I can't login with a simple user: ugidfw add subject not uid root object uid root mode rx This rule is for protecting root's files from others in any case. And I've got the following message: /libexec/ld-els.so.1: Cannot fstat "/lib/libedit.so.4" Jun 27 10:36:25 localhost login: _secure_path: cannot stat /etc/login.conf: Permission denied What's wrong? Btw, could somebody tell what the a mode means in bsdextended rules? Thanks, Gábor Kövesdán From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 27 09:44:27 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B298816A41C; Mon, 27 Jun 2005 09:44:27 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from dwmalone@maths.tcd.ie) Received: from salmon.maths.tcd.ie (salmon.maths.tcd.ie [134.226.81.11]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id E4D4043D58; Mon, 27 Jun 2005 09:44:26 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from dwmalone@maths.tcd.ie) Received: from walton.maths.tcd.ie ([134.226.81.10] helo=walton.maths.tcd.ie) by salmon.maths.tcd.ie with SMTP id ; 27 Jun 2005 10:44:25 +0100 (BST) Date: Mon, 27 Jun 2005 10:44:25 +0100 From: David Malone To: K?vesd?n G?bor Message-ID: <20050627094425.GA80771@walton.maths.tcd.ie> References: <42BFBCAF.9040001@t-hosting.hu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <42BFBCAF.9040001@t-hosting.hu> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.6i Sender: dwmalone@maths.tcd.ie Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: bsdextended mac module question X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 27 Jun 2005 09:44:27 -0000 On Mon, Jun 27, 2005 at 10:45:35AM +0200, K?vesd?n G?bor wrote: > Hello, > > I try to make a bsdextended mac policy and when I add the following > rule, I can't login with a simple user: > > ugidfw add subject not uid root object uid root mode rx I think you'll need to allow stat permission too - say "rxs" not just "rx". You may also want to think about what this rule does to /tmp. David. From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 27 12:38:56 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2CEBC16A41C for ; Mon, 27 Jun 2005 12:38:56 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from B.Candler@pobox.com) Received: from orb.pobox.com (orb.pobox.com [207.8.226.5]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 01D9043D4C for ; Mon, 27 Jun 2005 12:38:55 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from B.Candler@pobox.com) Received: from orb (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by orb.pobox.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 201F92207 for ; Mon, 27 Jun 2005 08:38:46 -0400 (EDT) Received: from bloodhound.noc.clara.net (bloodhound.noc.clara.net [195.8.70.207]) (using TLSv1 with cipher RC4-MD5 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by orb.sasl.smtp.pobox.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 08E5D87 for ; Mon, 27 Jun 2005 08:38:45 -0400 (EDT) From: Brian Candler To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Date: Mon, 27 Jun 2005 13:38:53 +0100 User-Agent: KMail/1.8 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200506271338.53836.B.Candler@pobox.com> Subject: atkbd: changing flags at boot time X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 27 Jun 2005 12:38:56 -0000 [This is with FreeBSD 4.11-RELEASE] I would like to arrange that the ATA keyboard works even if the machine is booted without a keyboard, but one is subsequently plugged in. My understanding is that the default behaviour of probing for the keyboard is set here in the kernel configuration: device atkbd0 at atkbdc? irq 1 flags 0x1 ^^^ # `flags' for atkbd: # 0x01 Force detection of keyboard, else we always assume a keyboard So I tried putting hint.atkbd.0.flags="0x00" in /boot/loader.conf, but that didn't make any difference. Looking at sys/dev/kbd/atkbd.c, I see: /* XXX: a kludge to obtain the device configuration flags */ if (resource_int_value("atkbd", ATKBD_DEFAULT, "flags", &i) == 0) flags |= i; Does this mean that it's impossible to clear this flag without recompiling the kernel? If so, is there a reason for this? TIA, Brian. From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 27 12:51:57 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 56BBF16A41C for ; Mon, 27 Jun 2005 12:51:57 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jpmmattos@terra.com.br) Received: from loncoche.terra.com.br (loncoche.terra.com.br [200.154.55.229]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C7C7F43D4C for ; Mon, 27 Jun 2005 12:51:56 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jpmmattos@terra.com.br) Received: from mubende.terra.com.br (mubende.terra.com.br [200.154.55.147]) by loncoche.terra.com.br (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3B9ADE794FB; Mon, 27 Jun 2005 09:51:55 -0300 (BRT) X-Terra-Karma: -2% X-Terra-Hash: a16e3478550f8da9451370c843b66f6e Received-SPF: pass (mubende.terra.com.br: domain of terra.com.br designates 200.154.55.147 as permitted sender) client-ip=200.154.55.147; envelope-from=jpmmattos@terra.com.br; helo=vstinm12; Received: from vstinm12 (sp_200_219_249_50.datacenter1.com.br [200.219.249.50]) (authenticated user jpmmattos) by mubende.terra.com.br (Postfix) with ESMTP id 044E52D0088; Mon, 27 Jun 2005 09:51:54 -0300 (BRT) Message-ID: <001c01c57b17$03933350$0702a8c0@vstinm12> From: "Joao Paulo Marques Mattos" To: "Brian Candler" , References: <200506271338.53836.B.Candler@pobox.com> Date: Mon, 27 Jun 2005 09:52:01 -0300 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.3790.1830 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.3790.1830 Cc: Subject: Re: atkbd: changing flags at boot time X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 27 Jun 2005 12:51:57 -0000 set in /boot/device.hints hint.atkbd.0.flags="0x0" []´s JP-Ux ----- Original Message ----- From: "Brian Candler" To: Sent: Monday, June 27, 2005 9:38 AM Subject: atkbd: changing flags at boot time > [This is with FreeBSD 4.11-RELEASE] > > I would like to arrange that the ATA keyboard works even if the machine is > booted without a keyboard, but one is subsequently plugged in. My > understanding is that the default behaviour of probing for the keyboard is > set here in the kernel configuration: > > device atkbd0 at atkbdc? irq 1 flags 0x1 > ^^^ > # `flags' for atkbd: > # 0x01 Force detection of keyboard, else we always assume a > keyboard > > So I tried putting > hint.atkbd.0.flags="0x00" > in /boot/loader.conf, but that didn't make any difference. > > Looking at sys/dev/kbd/atkbd.c, I see: > > /* XXX: a kludge to obtain the device configuration flags */ > if (resource_int_value("atkbd", ATKBD_DEFAULT, "flags", &i) == 0) > flags |= i; > > Does this mean that it's impossible to clear this flag without recompiling > the > kernel? If so, is there a reason for this? > > TIA, > > Brian. > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-stable-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > E-mail classificado pelo Identificador de Spam Inteligente Terra. > Para alterar a categoria classificada, visite > http://mail.terra.com.br/protected_email/imail/imail.cgi?+_u=jpmmattos&_l=1,1119875998.232013.1978.cagera.terra.com.br,4282,Des15,Des15 > > Esta mensagem foi verificada pelo E-mail Protegido Terra. > Scan engine: McAfee VirusScan / Atualizado em 24/06/2005 / Versão: > 4.4.00 - Dat 4521 > Proteja o seu e-mail Terra: http://mail.terra.com.br/ > From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 27 13:14:27 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 37D8816A41C for ; Mon, 27 Jun 2005 13:14:27 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from B.Candler@pobox.com) Received: from orb.pobox.com (orb.pobox.com [207.8.226.5]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0E54043D55 for ; Mon, 27 Jun 2005 13:14:26 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from B.Candler@pobox.com) Received: from orb (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by orb.pobox.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id AE42C2219; Mon, 27 Jun 2005 09:14:17 -0400 (EDT) Received: from bloodhound.noc.clara.net (bloodhound.noc.clara.net [195.8.70.207]) (using TLSv1 with cipher RC4-MD5 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by orb.sasl.smtp.pobox.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 85A1B8C; Mon, 27 Jun 2005 09:14:16 -0400 (EDT) From: Brian Candler To: jpmmattos@terra.com.br Date: Mon, 27 Jun 2005 14:14:24 +0100 User-Agent: KMail/1.8 References: <200506271338.53836.B.Candler@pobox.com> In-Reply-To: <200506271338.53836.B.Candler@pobox.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200506271414.24422.B.Candler@pobox.com> Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: atkbd: changing flags at boot time X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 27 Jun 2005 13:14:27 -0000 > set in /boot/device.hints > > hint.atkbd.0.flags="0x0" I tried that, and it didn't work. Well actually I put the setting in /boot/loader.conf rather than /boot/device.hints, but AFAICT they are the same: $ cd /usr/src/sys/boot $ find . -type f | xargs grep device.hints ./forth/loader.conf:loader_conf_files="/boot/device.hints /boot/loader.conf /boot/loader.conf.local /boot/nextboot.conf" Or am I incorrect in saying that this setting can go in /boot/loader.conf ? From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 27 13:15:39 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EF83216A41C for ; Mon, 27 Jun 2005 13:15:39 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from phorechuk@docucom.ca) Received: from smtp5-server95.ilap.com (smtp5-server95.ilap.com [216.223.130.193]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A42B743D5F for ; Mon, 27 Jun 2005 13:15:39 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from phorechuk@docucom.ca) Received: from [165.215.248.116] ([216.223.150.66]) by smtp5-server95.ilap.com (8.13.1/8.13.1/S5 - Internet Light and Power (tm) * http://ilap.com/ (tm)) with ESMTP id j5RDFJwa021035; Mon, 27 Jun 2005 09:15:19 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <42BFFBDF.1000400@docucom.ca> Date: Mon, 27 Jun 2005 09:15:11 -0400 From: Paul Horechuk Organization: DocuCom Imaging Solutions User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.7.8) Gecko/20050518 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?K=F6vesd=E1n_G=E1bor?= References: <42BEF3C8.2000902@t-hosting.hu> In-Reply-To: <42BEF3C8.2000902@t-hosting.hu> Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------060906010005030203000701" X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: Maher Mohamed , freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: auto cvsup X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: phorechuk@docucom.ca List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 27 Jun 2005 13:15:40 -0000 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------060906010005030203000701 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit There is another alternative to just doing the cvsup... Kövesdán Gábor wrote: > Maher Mohamed wrote: > >> how can i upgrade my cvsup weekly with an auto way? >> >> >> > You should use crondaemon. Place the following line to the end of > /etc/crontab: > > 15 4 * * 6 root cvsup /some/path/to/supfile > > The number six represents the sixth day of the week, the 15 is the > minute number and the second is the hour, thus this will run on every > Friday (if I remember correctly, I'm not sure the numbering starts with > Sunday) at 4:15. This is an essential part, but I decided to take the next step. Not only do I get the updated cvsup, but I check for changes... cvsup -l (as root) 0 21 * * * /usr/local/bin/getupdates > /var/log/updates.log 2> /tmp/updates.err This runs daily at 9pm with a log of the activity in /var/log/updates.log and an error report in /tmp/updates.err getupdates: (set this as executable chmod 755) #!/bin/sh # get the updated sources cd /usr/src /usr/local/bin/cvsup -g stable-supfile # get the updated ports tree cd /usr/ports /usr/local/bin/cvsup -g ports-supfile # get the updated ports index make fetchindex # rebuild the list of changes, i.e. ports that have updates available /usr/sbin/pkg_version -v | grep "<" > updates exit 0 In the morning I simply go to the ports directory and issue: more updates to find out which ports have been affected. I can then use portupgrade as required. As a bonus, I can also run getupdates at any time to recheck the updates. > > Cheers, > > Gábor Kövesdán > --------------060906010005030203000701-- From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 27 13:39:53 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7EA3916A41C for ; Mon, 27 Jun 2005 13:39:53 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from B.Candler@pobox.com) Received: from orb.pobox.com (orb.pobox.com [207.8.226.5]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5246643D53 for ; Mon, 27 Jun 2005 13:39:53 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from B.Candler@pobox.com) Received: from orb (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by orb.pobox.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id CD0BC1F02; Mon, 27 Jun 2005 09:39:43 -0400 (EDT) Received: from bloodhound.noc.clara.net (bloodhound.noc.clara.net [195.8.70.207]) (using TLSv1 with cipher RC4-MD5 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by orb.sasl.smtp.pobox.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A63B38C; Mon, 27 Jun 2005 09:39:42 -0400 (EDT) From: Brian Candler To: jpmmattos@terra.com.br Date: Mon, 27 Jun 2005 14:39:50 +0100 User-Agent: KMail/1.8 References: <200506271338.53836.B.Candler@pobox.com> <200506271414.24422.B.Candler@pobox.com> In-Reply-To: <200506271414.24422.B.Candler@pobox.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200506271439.50716.B.Candler@pobox.com> Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: atkbd: changing flags at boot time X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 27 Jun 2005 13:39:53 -0000 On Monday 27 June 2005 14:14, Brian Candler wrote: > > set in /boot/device.hints > > > > hint.atkbd.0.flags="0x0" > > I tried that, and it didn't work. I've tested it again, giving exactly your suggestion in exactly that file, and it doesn't work. However, on another machine, where I set the flags to 0x0 in the kernel configuration and rebuilt the kernel, it worked. Both machines are Compaq DL380. From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 27 14:02:40 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: stable@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from green.homeunix.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2C0FD16A479; Mon, 27 Jun 2005 14:02:40 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from green@green.homeunix.org) Received: from green.homeunix.org (green@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by green.homeunix.org (8.13.3/8.13.1) with ESMTP id j5RE2dDC015689; Mon, 27 Jun 2005 10:02:39 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from green@green.homeunix.org) Received: (from green@localhost) by green.homeunix.org (8.13.3/8.13.1/Submit) id j5RE2QKw015688; Mon, 27 Jun 2005 10:02:26 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from green) Date: Mon, 27 Jun 2005 10:02:26 -0400 From: Brian Fundakowski Feldman To: Tony Byrne Message-ID: <20050627140226.GB1074@green.homeunix.org> References: <42BC1E48.3010808@nurfuerspam.de> <941771390.20050624235856@byrnehq.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <941771390.20050624235856@byrnehq.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.6i Cc: FreeBSD Stable , Martin Subject: Re: ATA DMA timeouts [NOT FIXED] (forget my last mail) X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 27 Jun 2005 14:02:40 -0000 On Fri, Jun 24, 2005 at 11:58:56PM +0100, Tony Byrne wrote: > Hello Martin, > > M> believe it or not. After sending the last mail and closing > M> firefox, the system has been hanging for a few seconds and > M> spit this out: > > M> ad0: TIMEOUT - WRITE_DMA retrying (2 retries left) LBA=226025086 > > Yeah, I updated and rebuilt on seeing your email, but found it did > little. I has TIMEOUTs again within 10 minutes of rebooting. > > M> Sorry for causing noise. :( > M> I'm going to test a kernel every week and report, when the > M> problems are gone. > > I'd certainly be interested in hearing about your results, but from > the general lack of discussion of the problem on this list, I'm > guessing we may be on our own. I'm not sure anyone is actually working > on a "fix", because I'm not sure the problem is recognized. > > I have two separate Intel IHC5 based boxes affected by DMA TIMEOUTS, > both with SATA drives and I'd like to get to the bottom of this. The best thing to do is narrow down what kernel changes caused this (build kernels from various cvs update dates to zero in on the cause). -- Brian Fundakowski Feldman \'[ FreeBSD ]''''''''''\ <> green@FreeBSD.org \ The Power to Serve! \ Opinions expressed are my own. \,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,\ From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 27 14:05:49 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C0E9916A41C for ; Mon, 27 Jun 2005 14:05:49 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from Zimmerman.Eric@con-way.com) Received: from ljcqs131.cnf.com (mail-cluster.cnf.com [63.230.177.41]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9E18843D48 for ; Mon, 27 Jun 2005 14:05:45 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from Zimmerman.Eric@con-way.com) Received: from ljcqs131.cnf.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by localhost.cnf.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0E4111835FC for ; Mon, 27 Jun 2005 07:05:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ciies004.conway.prod.con-way.com (cnfdcx-131-slb-02-in.cnf.com [10.0.108.132]) by ljcqs131.cnf.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id EC47F18350E for ; Mon, 27 Jun 2005 07:05:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: from qgaes001.conway.prod.con-way.com ([10.40.10.68]) by ciies004.conway.prod.con-way.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.211); Mon, 27 Jun 2005 07:05:44 -0700 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5.7226.0 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Date: Mon, 27 Jun 2005 09:05:42 -0500 Message-ID: <12AAD6CC50A25841834F43955F39B66E017E8F6F@qgaes001.conway.prod.con-way.com> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: portinstall .vs. make install clean Thread-Index: AcV6g3+zvIfsexw6Qs+TjWhStAnGtQAnVlug From: "Zimmerman, Eric" Cc: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 27 Jun 2005 14:05:44.0932 (UTC) FILETIME=[4F966240:01C57B21] Subject: RE: portinstall .vs. make install clean X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 27 Jun 2005 14:05:49 -0000 > On 6/27/05, Dominic Marks wrote: > > On Sunday 26 June 2005 19:32, Sergey Spivak wrote: > > > Hi! > > > > > > > portinstall is a ruby program which comes with portupgrade > > > > > > "portinstall" =3D "portupgrade -N" > > > > Oh. Makes me wonder why 'portinstall' exists at all. While this isn't related to the OP's question, it might be helpful to him. I find portmanager to be vastly superior to portupgrade. In one fell swoop you can update any new ports + rebuild all dependencies.=20 It works well. Combine it with portsnap and life is good! =3D) It doesn't have a ruby dependency either. Give it a whirl. It rocks. From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 27 16:14:42 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: stable@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F0EC616A41C for ; Mon, 27 Jun 2005 16:14:42 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from steve@pepcross.com) Received: from anchor-post-31.mail.demon.net (anchor-post-31.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.89]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B684C43D1D for ; Mon, 27 Jun 2005 16:14:42 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from steve@pepcross.com) Received: from mail.lonres.com ([194.70.153.187]) by anchor-post-31.mail.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 4.42) id 1DmwBt-0006sK-3j; Mon, 27 Jun 2005 16:10:33 +0000 Received: from pepcross.com (bibipentium.lonres.com [10.10.10.225]) by mail.lonres.com (Postfix) with SMTP id 27EFB2E07C; Mon, 27 Jun 2005 17:14:41 +0100 (BST) Received: by pepcross.com (sSMTP sendmail emulation); Mon, 27 Jun 2005 17:15:12 +0100 Date: Mon, 27 Jun 2005 17:15:12 +0100 From: Steve Roome To: markir@paradise.net.nz Message-ID: <20050627161512.GE643@bibipentium.lonres.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Cc: stable@freebsd.org Subject: FreeBSD MySQL still WAY slower than Linux X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 27 Jun 2005 16:14:43 -0000 On Mon Jul 20, (I was reading the web archive) Mark Kirkwood wrote: > With respect to Mysql performance, I would suspect threading or > threading/kernel interaction as the culprit. (That reminds me, I > don't recall seeing the original poster re-doing the tests with > 6.0-CURRENT - that would be interesting). Sorry for not getting back sooner. I posted these results and anything else that went with this thread to the freebsd-performance mailing list. -current proved a slightly better performer for us, but not enough to bring it even close to the performance we get with gentoo. Off the top of my head the select key benchmarks were ROUGHLY: FreeBSD 5.various + MySQL 4.various : ROUGHLY 16k queries/second FreeBSD 6.0-current + MySQL 4.1.12 : ROUGHLY 18k queries/second Gentoo-something + MySQL 4.1.something : ROUGHLY 30k queries/second. The exact figures were posted to performance- (6.0 tests) and stable- (gentoo vs. freebsd 5.x). Good luck to anyone who can manage to get MySQL to perform as well on FreeBSD as Linux, we've been right out of luck so far and that's really not advocating FreeBSD very well, which is what I'd rather be doing. Steve From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 27 16:16:42 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 96DE416A41F for ; Mon, 27 Jun 2005 16:16:42 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from fcash@ocis.net) Received: from smtp.sd73.bc.ca (mailtest.sd73.bc.ca [142.24.13.140]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6FD4843D1D for ; Mon, 27 Jun 2005 16:16:40 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from fcash@ocis.net) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by localhost.sd73.bc.ca (Postfix) with ESMTP id EF97E8A0052 for ; Mon, 27 Jun 2005 09:16:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: from smtp.sd73.bc.ca ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (mailtest.sd73.bc.ca [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 74231-01-36 for ; Mon, 27 Jun 2005 09:16:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: from s9.sbo (s9.sbo [192.168.0.9]) by smtp.sd73.bc.ca (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4611C8A007B for ; Mon, 27 Jun 2005 09:16:36 -0700 (PDT) From: Freddie Cash To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Date: Mon, 27 Jun 2005 09:16:26 -0700 User-Agent: KMail/1.8 References: <200506271338.53836.B.Candler@pobox.com> <001c01c57b17$03933350$0702a8c0@vstinm12> In-Reply-To: <001c01c57b17$03933350$0702a8c0@vstinm12> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200506270916.28125.fcash@ocis.net> X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new using ClamAV at sd73.bc.ca Subject: Re: atkbd: changing flags at boot time X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 27 Jun 2005 16:16:42 -0000 On June 27, 2005 05:52 am, Joao Paulo Marques Mattos wrote: > Brian Candler wrote: > > [This is with FreeBSD 4.11-RELEASE] > set in /boot/device.hints > hint.atkbd.0.flags=3D"0x0" =46reeBSD 4.x supports device.hints? I thought that was a 5.x feature. > > So I tried putting > > hint.atkbd.0.flags=3D"0x00" > > in /boot/loader.conf, but that didn't make any difference. Change the flags parameter in the kernel config file, and recompile the=20 kernel. > > Does this mean that it's impossible to clear this flag without > > recompiling the kernel? If so, is there a reason for this? =46rom what I know of 4.x, the only way to change device flags is to=20 recompile the kernel. 5.x has the handy device.hints file and you can set= =20 hints via /boot/loader.conf (preferred as device.hints is overwritten=20 during installworld). =2D-=20 =46reddie Cash fcash@ocis.net From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 27 16:19:29 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 592DC16A41C for ; Mon, 27 Jun 2005 16:19:29 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from zlobar@gw.lancore.net.ua) Received: from gw.lancore.net.ua (gw.lancore.net.ua [217.20.184.45]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ACB1443D1D for ; Mon, 27 Jun 2005 16:19:28 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from zlobar@gw.lancore.net.ua) Received: from gw.lancore.net.ua (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gw.lancore.net.ua (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id j5RGKcqa069926 for ; Mon, 27 Jun 2005 19:20:38 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from zlobar@gw.lancore.net.ua) Received: (from zlobar@localhost) by gw.lancore.net.ua (8.13.1/8.13.1/Submit) id j5RGKc2C069925 for freebsd-stable@freebsd.org; Mon, 27 Jun 2005 19:20:38 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from zlobar) Date: Mon, 27 Jun 2005 19:20:38 +0300 From: Sergey Spivak To: Freddie Cash Message-ID: <20050627162038.GA69905@lancore.net.ua> References: <200506271338.53836.B.Candler@pobox.com> <001c01c57b17$03933350$0702a8c0@vstinm12> <200506270916.28125.fcash@ocis.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=koi8-u Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <200506270916.28125.fcash@ocis.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV 0.86/958/Mon Jun 27 01:22:01 2005 on gw.lancore.net.ua X-Virus-Status: Clean Subject: Re: atkbd: changing flags at boot time X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 27 Jun 2005 16:19:29 -0000 Hi! >>> [This is with FreeBSD 4.11-RELEASE] >> set in /boot/device.hints >> hint.atkbd.0.flags="0x0" > > FreeBSD 4.x supports device.hints? I thought that was a 5.x feature. > You're right. "12.5 Device Hints Note: This is a FreeBSD 5.0 and later feature which does not exist in earlier versions" http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/device-hints.html -- wbr, sergey v. spivak sergey#spivak.kiev.ua zlob-uanic/eunic/ripe From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 27 17:59:25 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C22CB16A41C; Mon, 27 Jun 2005 17:59:25 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from lofi@freebsd.org) Received: from mail-in-01.arcor-online.net (mail-in-06.arcor-online.net [151.189.21.46]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 48C9043D1D; Mon, 27 Jun 2005 17:59:25 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from lofi@freebsd.org) Received: from mail-in-06-z2.arcor-online.net (mail-in-06-z2.arcor-online.net [151.189.8.18]) by mail-in-01.arcor-online.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BE0D624934; Mon, 27 Jun 2005 19:59:23 +0200 (CEST) Received: from mail-in-07.arcor-online.net (mail-in-07.arcor-online.net [151.189.21.47]) by mail-in-06-z2.arcor-online.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7F4FE1193E5; Mon, 27 Jun 2005 19:59:23 +0200 (CEST) Received: from lofi.dyndns.org (dsl-213-023-207-079.arcor-ip.net [213.23.207.79]) by mail-in-07.arcor-online.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 57A3D22F68; Mon, 27 Jun 2005 19:59:23 +0200 (CEST) Received: from kiste.my.domain (lofi@kiste.my.domain [192.168.8.4]) (authenticated bits=0) by lofi.dyndns.org (8.13.3/8.13.3) with ESMTP id j5RHxLgi063630 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5 bits=128 verify=NO); Mon, 27 Jun 2005 19:59:21 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from lofi@freebsd.org) From: Michael Nottebrock To: Daniel Eischen Date: Mon, 27 Jun 2005 19:59:14 +0200 User-Agent: KMail/1.8.1 References: In-Reply-To: X-Face: =Ym$`&q\+S2X$4`X%x%6"L4>Y,$]<":'L%c9"#7#`2tb&E&wsN31on!N\)3BD[g<=?utf-8?q?=2EjnfV=5B=0A=093=23?=>XchLK,o; >bD>c:]^; :>0>vyZ.X[,63GW`&M>}nYnr]-Fp``,[[@lJ!QL|sfW!s)=?utf-8?q?A2!*=0A=09vNkB/=7CL-?=>&QdSbQg X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: kpdf crashes with LIBPTHREAD_SYSTEM_SCOPE set (Was: Re: FreeBSD MySQL still WAY slower than Linux) X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 27 Jun 2005 17:59:25 -0000 --nextPart25453489.OqViUtP15C Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline On Monday, 20. June 2005 19:17, Daniel Eischen wrote: > > > Works here on a month or two old -current. =A0I'm using > > > /usr/local/ant/docs/appendix_e.pdf as a test (it's 60 pages or so). > > > > Crashes for me: > > > > [lofi@kiste]:127:~ > env LIBPTHREAD_SYSTEM_SCOPE=3D1 kpdf > > 'http://drtc.isibang.ac.in/%7Eprachi/apache-ant-1.5.4/docs/appendix_e.p= df > >' Bus error > > [lofi@kiste]:1:~ > kpdf > > 'http://drtc.isibang.ac.in/%7Eprachi/apache-ant-1.5.4/docs/appendix_e.p= df > >' [lofi@kiste]:0:~ > > > > > I don't have a -CURRENT machine to test. > > Try -stable. I just retried with today's 5.4-STABLE - still crashes. =2D-=20 ,_, | Michael Nottebrock | lofi@freebsd.org (/^ ^\) | FreeBSD - The Power to Serve | http://www.freebsd.org \u/ | K Desktop Environment on FreeBSD | http://freebsd.kde.org --nextPart25453489.OqViUtP15C Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.1 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQBCwD52Xhc68WspdLARAiSyAJ9DsMQQrUDcuxeF5xVbg4veUOmyQQCglpVk UIDoyA/uuX4m9wkJs1A6sAU= =6fzx -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --nextPart25453489.OqViUtP15C-- From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 27 18:23:45 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0BA6016A41C for ; Mon, 27 Jun 2005 18:23:45 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from sean@gothic.net.au) Received: from visi.gothic.net.au (visi.gothic.net.au [202.182.72.19]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7B30E43D1D for ; Mon, 27 Jun 2005 18:23:44 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from sean@gothic.net.au) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by visi.gothic.net.au (Postfix) with SMTP id 6BE2B264D1; Tue, 28 Jun 2005 04:23:37 +1000 (EST) Received: from [10.99.34.33] (home.winn.id.au [202.182.72.30]) by visi.gothic.net.au (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1397B264CA; Tue, 28 Jun 2005 04:23:37 +1000 (EST) In-Reply-To: <200506270916.28125.fcash@ocis.net> References: <200506271338.53836.B.Candler@pobox.com> <001c01c57b17$03933350$0702a8c0@vstinm12> <200506270916.28125.fcash@ocis.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v622) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Message-Id: <84dd92ee86f786a09379768d54a6a819@gothic.net.au> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Sean Winn Date: Tue, 28 Jun 2005 04:23:39 +1000 To: Freddie Cash X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.622) X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV using ClamSMTP X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.0.4 (2005-06-05) on visi.gothic.net.au X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.6 required=5.0 tests=J_CHICKENPOX_65 autolearn=disabled version=3.0.4 Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: atkbd: changing flags at boot time X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 27 Jun 2005 18:23:45 -0000 On 28/06/2005, at 2:16 AM, Freddie Cash wrote: > On June 27, 2005 05:52 am, Joao Paulo Marques Mattos wrote: >> Brian Candler wrote: >>> [This is with FreeBSD 4.11-RELEASE] > >> set in /boot/device.hints >> hint.atkbd.0.flags="0x0" > > FreeBSD 4.x supports device.hints? I thought that was a 5.x feature. > >>> So I tried putting >>> hint.atkbd.0.flags="0x00" >>> in /boot/loader.conf, but that didn't make any difference. > > Change the flags parameter in the kernel config file, and recompile the > kernel. > >>> Does this mean that it's impossible to clear this flag without >>> recompiling the kernel? If so, is there a reason for this? > > From what I know of 4.x, the only way to change device flags is to > recompile the kernel. 5.x has the handy device.hints file and you can > set > hints via /boot/loader.conf (preferred as device.hints is overwritten > during installworld). > Not quite. from /boot/loader.conf: userconfig_script_load="YES" from /boot/kernel.conf: flags atkbd0 0 quit Or you can use "boot -c" at the loader prompt, and use the configuration utility directly, but after that you'll need to use kget to save it permanently > -- > Freddie Cash > fcash@ocis.net > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-stable-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 27 18:51:31 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A7A5516A41C for ; Mon, 27 Jun 2005 18:51:31 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from mitch@kuoi.asui.uidaho.edu) Received: from kuoi.asui.uidaho.edu (kuoi.asui.uidaho.edu [129.101.191.123]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 61A8F43D53 for ; Mon, 27 Jun 2005 18:51:31 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from mitch@kuoi.asui.uidaho.edu) Received: (qmail 62764 invoked by uid 1010); 27 Jun 2005 18:51:30 -0000 Received: from localhost (sendmail-bs@127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 27 Jun 2005 18:51:30 -0000 Date: Mon, 27 Jun 2005 11:51:30 -0700 (PDT) From: Mitch Parks To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20050627114218.N985@kuoi.asui.uidaho.edu> X-Radio: KUOI MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Subject: 5.4-p1 crash KERN/74319 X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 27 Jun 2005 18:51:31 -0000 Not to sound like a broken record, but I had another ttwakeup crash last night. Is this more of a problem with SMP systems? Would it be more stable without SMP? Or without ACPI? I'll try anything at this point. Mitch Parks #0 doadump () at pcpu.h:159 #1 0xc05357d7 in boot (howto=260) at /usr/src/sys/kern/kern_shutdown.c:410 #2 0xc0535afd in panic (fmt=0xc068b12f "%s") at /usr/src/sys/kern/kern_shutdown.c:566 #3 0xc06633b4 in trap_fatal (frame=0xe8e6599c, eva=1127) at /usr/src/sys/i386/i386/trap.c:817 #4 0xc06630f7 in trap_pfault (frame=0xe8e6599c, usermode=0, eva=1127) at /usr/src/sys/i386/i386/trap.c:735 #5 0xc0662d51 in trap (frame= {tf_fs = -1014628328, tf_es = -65520, tf_ds = -1014628336, tf_edi = -943569360, tf_esi = -1001365504, tf_ebp = -387556900, tf_isp = -387556920, tf_ebx = -950459904, tf_edx = 1, tf_ecx = -950459904, tf_eax = 1039, tf_trapno = 12, tf_err = 0, tf_eip = -1068078327, tf_cs = 8, tf_eflags = 66182, tf_esp = -387556888, tf_ss = -1068094158}) at /usr/src/sys/i386/i386/trap.c:425 #6 0xc06513ea in calltrap () at /usr/src/sys/i386/i386/exception.s:140 #7 0xc3860018 in ?? () #8 0xffff0010 in ?? () #9 0xc3860010 in ?? () #10 0xc7c24630 in ?? () #11 0xc4506000 in ?? () #12 0xe8e659dc in ?? () #13 0xe8e659c8 in ?? () #14 0xc7592200 in ?? () #15 0x00000001 in ?? () #16 0xc7592200 in ?? () #17 0x0000040f in ?? () #18 0x0000000c in ?? () #19 0x00000000 in ?? () #20 0xc0566b09 in ptsstart (tp=0x0) at /usr/src/sys/kern/tty_pty.c:249 #21 0xc0562d32 in ttstart (tp=0x0) at /usr/src/sys/kern/tty.c:1567 #22 0xc0562d9d in ttymodem (tp=0xc7592200, flag=0) at /usr/src/sys/kern/tty.c:1601 #23 0xc0566beb in ptcopen (dev=0xc4506000, flag=3, devtype=8192, td=0x0) at linedisc.h:136 #24 0xc04f9f66 in spec_open (ap=0xe8e65a80) at /usr/src/sys/fs/specfs/spec_vnops.c:207 #25 0xc04f9cab in spec_vnoperate (ap=0x0) at /usr/src/sys/fs/specfs/spec_vnops.c:118 #26 0xc0594985 in vn_open_cred (ndp=0xe8e65be4, flagp=0xe8e65ce4, cmode=0, cred=0xc42fb480, fdidx=0) at vnode_if.h:228 #27 0xc059456a in vn_open (ndp=0x0, flagp=0xe8e65ce4, cmode=0, fdidx=10) at /usr/src/sys/kern/vfs_vnops.c:91 #28 0xc058e417 in kern_open (td=0xc3ff2180, path=0x0, pathseg=UIO_USERSPACE, flags=3, mode=0) at /usr/src/sys/kern/vfs_syscalls.c:957 #29 0xc058e328 in open (td=0xc3ff2180, uap=0x0) at /usr/src/sys/kern/vfs_syscalls.c:926 #30 0xc06636ef in syscall (frame= {tf_fs = -1078001617, tf_es = 134873135, tf_ds = -1078001617, tf_edi = -1, tf_esi = 67215 6717, tf_ebp = -1077960312, tf_isp = -387555980, tf_ebx = 672163936, tf_edx = 672156751, tf_ecx = 673073932, tf_eax = 5, tf_trapno = 12, tf_err = 2, tf_eip = 672581307, tf_cs = 31, tf_eflags = 662, tf_esp = -1077960404, tf_ss = 47}) at /usr/src/sys/i386/i386/trap.c:1009 #31 0xc065143f in Xint0x80_syscall () at /usr/src/sys/i386/i386/exception.s:201 #32 0xbfbf002f in ?? () #33 0x080a002f in ?? () #34 0xbfbf002f in ?? () #35 0xffffffff in ?? () #36 0x28104c2d in ?? () #37 0xbfbfa188 in ?? () #38 0xe8e65d74 in ?? () #39 0x28106860 in ?? () #40 0x28104c4f in ?? () #41 0x281e4b0c in ?? () #42 0x00000005 in ?? () #43 0x0000000c in ?? () #44 0x00000002 in ?? () #45 0x2816c6bb in ?? () #46 0x0000001f in ?? () #47 0x00000296 in ?? () #48 0xbfbfa12c in ?? () #49 0x0000002f in ?? () #50 0x00000000 in ?? () #51 0x00000000 in ?? () #52 0x00000000 in ?? () #53 0x00000000 in ?? () #54 0x73b98000 in ?? () #55 0xc3bff54c in ?? () #56 0xc3ff2180 in ?? () #57 0xe8e6585c in ?? () #58 0xe8e65844 in ?? () #59 0xc34dd780 in ?? () #60 0xc0545d9f in sched_switch (td=0x28104c2d, newtd=0x28106860, flags=Cannot access memory at address 0xbfbfa198 ) at /usr/src/sys/kern/sched_4bsd.c:881 Previous frame inner to this frame (corrupt stack?) Copyright (c) 1992-2005 The FreeBSD Project. 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FreeBSD 5.4-RELEASE-p1 #19: Sun Jun 19 17:32:16 PDT 2005 root@kuoi.asui.uidaho.edu:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/kuoi Timecounter "i8254" frequency 1193182 Hz quality 0 CPU: Intel(R) Xeon(TM) CPU 2.80GHz (2791.00-MHz 686-class CPU) Origin = "GenuineIntel" Id = 0xf29 Stepping = 9 Features=0xbfebfbff real memory = 2147287040 (2047 MB) avail memory = 2095947776 (1998 MB) ACPI APIC Table: FreeBSD/SMP: Multiprocessor System Detected: 2 CPUs cpu0 (BSP): APIC ID: 0 cpu1 (AP): APIC ID: 6 ioapic0: Changing APIC ID to 8 ioapic1: Changing APIC ID to 9 ioapic2: Changing APIC ID to 10 ioapic2: WARNING: intbase 72 != expected base 48 ioapic3: Changing APIC ID to 11 ioapic3: WARNING: intbase 120 != expected base 96 ioapic4: Changing APIC ID to 12 ioapic0 irqs 0-23 on motherboard ioapic1 irqs 24-47 on motherboard ioapic2 irqs 72-95 on motherboard ioapic3 irqs 120-143 on motherboard ioapic4 irqs 144-167 on motherboard npx0: on motherboard npx0: INT 16 interface acpi0: on motherboard acpi0: Power Button (fixed) Timecounter "ACPI-fast" frequency 3579545 Hz quality 1000 acpi_timer0: <24-bit timer at 3.579545MHz> port 0x808-0x80b on acpi0 cpu0: on acpi0 cpu1: on acpi0 pcib0: port 0xcf8-0xcff on acpi0 pci0: on pcib0 pcib1: at device 2.0 on pci0 pci1: on pcib1 pci1: at device 28.0 (no driver attached) pcib2: at device 29.0 on pci1 pci2: on pcib2 pci1: at device 30.0 (no driver attached) pcib3: at device 31.0 on pci1 pci3: on pcib3 em0: port 0xece0-0xecff mem 0xfe8c0000-0xfe8dffff,0xfe8e0000-0xfe8fffff irq 28 at device 1.0 on pci3 em0: Ethernet address: 00:0f:1f:65:45:4e em0: Speed:N/A Duplex:N/A pcib4: at device 3.0 on pci0 pci4: on pcib4 pci4: at device 28.0 (no driver attached) pcib5: at device 29.0 on pci4 pci5: on pcib5 pci4: at device 30.0 (no driver attached) pcib6: at device 31.0 on pci4 pci6: on pcib6 pcib7: at device 4.0 on pci0 pci7: on pcib7 pci7: at device 28.0 (no driver attached) pcib8: at device 29.0 on pci7 pci8: on pcib8 amr0: mem 0xfebf0000-0xfebfffff irq 120 at device 8.0 on pci8 amr0: Firmware 251S, BIOS 1.07, 128MB RAM pci7: at device 30.0 (no driver attached) pcib9: at device 31.0 on pci7 pci10: on pcib9 pcib10: at device 30.0 on pci0 pci11: on pcib10 pci11: at device 4.0 (no driver attached) isab0: at device 31.0 on pci0 isa0: on isab0 atapci0: port 0xfc00-0xfc0f,0x376,0x170-0x177,0x3f6,0x1f0-0x1f7 at device 31.1 on pci0 ata0: channel #0 on atapci0 ata1: channel #1 on atapci0 fdc0: port 0x3f7,0x3f0-0x3f5 irq 6 drq 2 on acpi0 fd0: <1440-KB 3.5" drive> on fdc0 drive 0 atkbdc0: port 0x64,0x60 irq 1 on acpi0 atkbd0: irq 1 on atkbdc0 kbd0 at atkbd0 psm0: irq 12 on atkbdc0 psm0: model Generic PS/2 mouse, device ID 0 sio0: <16550A-compatible COM port> port 0x3f8-0x3ff irq 4 flags 0x10 on acpi0 sio0: type 16550A, console sio1: <16550A-compatible COM port> port 0x2f8-0x2ff irq 3 on acpi0 sio1: type 16550A ppc0: port 0x778-0x77f,0x378-0x37f irq 7 drq 1 on acpi0 ppc0: Generic chipset (ECP/PS2/NIBBLE) in COMPATIBLE mode ppc0: FIFO with 16/16/8 bytes threshold ppbus0: on ppc0 lpt0: on ppbus0 lpt0: Interrupt-driven port ppi0: on ppbus0 orm0: at iomem 0xec000-0xeffff,0xc0000-0xc7fff on isa0 pmtimer0 on isa0 sc0: at flags 0x100 on isa0 sc0: VGA <16 virtual consoles, flags=0x100> vga0: at port 0x3c0-0x3df iomem 0xa0000-0xbffff on isa0 Timecounters tick every 10.000 msec acd0: CDROM at ata0-master PIO4 amrd0: on amr0 amrd0: 139760MB (286228480 sectors) RAID 5 (optimal) ses0 at amr0 bus 0 target 6 lun 0 ses0: Fixed Processor SCSI-2 device ses0: SAF-TE Compliant Device SMP: AP CPU #1 Launched! Mounting root from ufs:/dev/amrd0s2a WARNING: / was not properly dismounted WARNING: /usr was not properly dismounted /usr: mount pending error: blocks 524 files 2 em0: Link is up 100 Mbps Full Duplex From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 27 19:22:37 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CB9E316A41C for ; Mon, 27 Jun 2005 19:22:37 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from stephane@enertiasoft.com) Received: from mx1.enertiatech.com (h204-9-110-143.enertiatech.com [204.9.110.143]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 83DE143D1F for ; Mon, 27 Jun 2005 19:22:37 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from stephane@enertiasoft.com) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.enertiatech.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3F960632C for ; Mon, 27 Jun 2005 13:22:04 -0600 (MDT) Received: from mx1.enertiatech.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (mx1.enertiatech.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 66838-01 for ; Mon, 27 Jun 2005 13:22:03 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [10.0.0.34] (unknown [10.0.0.34]) (using TLSv1 with cipher RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.enertiatech.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2120462C2 for ; Mon, 27 Jun 2005 13:22:03 -0600 (MDT) Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v730) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <061D510A-F40C-4741-8063-20FD0D4904E2@enertiasoft.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org From: Stephane Raimbault Date: Mon, 27 Jun 2005 13:22:36 -0600 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.730) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at enertiasoft.com Subject: DELL PE 2850 - problems with SMP and PAE kernels X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 27 Jun 2005 19:22:38 -0000 Hi, I have been working with a Dell PE 2850 here recently and I've been having some weird problems. I noticed a few previous posts about a PE 2850 and some problems, but I think my problems are slightly different, however somewhat similar. I'm setting up my PE 2850 (dual 2.8 xeon, w/ 4G of RAM and a PERC4/dc raid card) to be a mysql server. Right now, imysql is setup as a slave to replicate from the master, with the eventual goal of replacing the master with this server. I have ran into a couple problems however, while running the SMP or the PAE kernel. GENERIC seems to be okay for me. I have the port mysql41-server installed WITH_LINUXTHREADS=yes BUILD_OPTIMIZED=yes BUILD_STATIC=yes as I do on my other non Dell boxes running FreeBSD 4.x and mysql. I first attempted to run the PAE kernel to take advantage of all 4Gig's of RAM. I was pleased with performance, however while my sql server was slaving from my master in the middle of the night it panic'd. I wasn't at the console to see what the panic was about... so I re-setup my server and started slaving again, this time logging my console. This is what came up when it panic'd again: panic: lockmgr: thread 0xfffffffe, not exclusive lock holder 0xc6562c00 unlocking I decided to try the SMP kernel out at this point as I figured I'm hitting some bug in PAE. I booted into my kernel.old which was an SMP build I had done earlier and everything seemed to work fine, however I noticed my performance was terrible. Trying to re-sync from the slave seemed to be REALLY slow. My CPU's seemed mostly idle (95 - 99% idle) during the sync, however my system load was 1.0 - 1.5 instead of 0.33 under PAE. I couldn't explain what I was seeing... so I decided to try GENERIC. My experience with GENERIC was that my performance returned back to how it was with PAE, however the system did not crash while syncing from the sql master server. The server continues to operate and remain synced with the master... so all seems well, for the time being. I was hoping that someone could provide some insight in what I'm seeing. I can run some benchmarks and tests for the time being with this machine, as I don't plan on putting this box into production as is until at least next week. I also have the following in my /boot/loader.conf to allow mysql to use up to 2Gig's of RAM on this system: kern.maxdsiz="2147483648" Looking at some previous posts, I noticed that people were reporting some usb interrupt related messages, which I am also seeing, however I don't believe this is the cause of my problems since I was running the PAE kernel which has nodevice for the usb devices, however I still had usbd_enable=YES in my rc.conf. Would this enable the USB devices despite having a nodevice uhci in the kernel file? Thank you, Stephane From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 27 19:52:50 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9E46416A41C for ; Mon, 27 Jun 2005 19:52:50 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from simon@zaphod.nitro.dk) Received: from zaphod.nitro.dk (port324.ds1-khk.adsl.cybercity.dk [212.242.113.79]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4FC3143D1F for ; Mon, 27 Jun 2005 19:52:50 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from simon@zaphod.nitro.dk) Received: by zaphod.nitro.dk (Postfix, from userid 3000) id DCDFE119E6; Mon, 27 Jun 2005 21:52:48 +0200 (CEST) Date: Mon, 27 Jun 2005 21:52:48 +0200 From: "Simon L. Nielsen" To: Dick Davies Message-ID: <20050627195248.GE958@zaphod.nitro.dk> References: <20050624095836.GB1311@eris.tenfour> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="TiqCXmo5T1hvSQQg" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20050624095836.GB1311@eris.tenfour> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.9i Cc: FreeBSD Stable Users Subject: Re: marking ports as 'cleaned' in portaudit.conf ? X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 27 Jun 2005 19:52:50 -0000 --TiqCXmo5T1hvSQQg Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 2005.06.24 10:58:36 +0100, Dick Davies wrote: > > I just manually patched up my ruby18 install and tried to tell > portaudit that the local port is now clean, but it doesn't want to > know: > > root@eris rasputnik # portaudit > Affected package: ruby-1.8.2_3 > Type of problem: ruby -- arbitrary command execution on XMLRPC server. > Reference: > > ^C > root@eris rasputnik # cat /usr/local/etc/portaudit.conf > portaudit_fixed=3D"594eb447-e398-11d9-a8bd-000cf18bbe54" > root@eris rasputnik # > > what did I miss? It seems like portaudit_fixed only works for "system" entries, ie. base system vulnerabilities and is ignored package entries. I think it would be useful to be able to suppress the certain package vulnerabilities like you are trying to, but I don't think I will get around to looking at implementing it any time soon. Of cause the real solution to this particular problem would be for someone to submit a patch for the port :-). --=20 Simon L. Nielsen --TiqCXmo5T1hvSQQg Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.1 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFCwFkQh9pcDSc1mlERAq0JAJ95dB8pU86HfcYOQRYXJnSRywljZwCfQI9g pd2AGd9n91OncvtMfaLLYHQ= =GpVs -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --TiqCXmo5T1hvSQQg-- From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 27 21:23:11 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: stable@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C66A816A41C for ; Mon, 27 Jun 2005 21:23:11 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from nakal@nurfuerspam.de) Received: from mail.gmx.net (pop.gmx.de [213.165.64.20]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 2F6CD43D5C for ; Mon, 27 Jun 2005 21:23:10 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from nakal@nurfuerspam.de) Received: (qmail invoked by alias); 27 Jun 2005 21:23:09 -0000 Received: from p5090FF1F.dip.t-dialin.net (EHLO klotz.local) [80.144.255.31] by mail.gmx.net (mp032) with SMTP; 27 Jun 2005 23:23:09 +0200 X-Authenticated: #989277 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by klotz.local (8.13.3/8.13.3) with ESMTP id j5RLN4O6001280; Mon, 27 Jun 2005 23:23:05 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from nakal@nurfuerspam.de) Message-ID: <42C06E38.4080007@nurfuerspam.de> Date: Mon, 27 Jun 2005 23:23:04 +0200 From: Martin User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.2 (X11/20050403) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Brian Fundakowski Feldman References: <42BC1E48.3010808@nurfuerspam.de> <941771390.20050624235856@byrnehq.com> <20050627140226.GB1074@green.homeunix.org> In-Reply-To: <20050627140226.GB1074@green.homeunix.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Y-GMX-Trusted: 0 Cc: FreeBSD Stable Subject: Re: ATA DMA timeouts X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 27 Jun 2005 21:23:11 -0000 Brian Fundakowski Feldman wrote: > The best thing to do is narrow down what kernel changes caused this > (build kernels from various cvs update dates to zero in on the cause). I'm trying to find out more about this errors. Today I compiled: 2005-05-27: ok, it seems (I am using it now and want to run it for a longer period of time, to check its stability) 2005-05-28: USB errors: usb0: host system error usb0: host controller halted Then freezes after exiting X (maybe, because I'm using a USB mouse) I compiled once again: 2005-05-31: same USB problem I did a "halt -p" to avoid freeze. There are not many changes left between May 27th and May 30th, I ran the kernels only a short time, because of these USB problems. This time I did not get any DMA errors. (No changes in src/sys 2005-05-26 0:00 -> 2005-05-27 0:00) Changes 2005-05-27 0:00 -> 2005-05-30 0:00: src/sys/conf/NOTES src/sys/conf/files src/sys/conf/options src/sys/dev/bktr/bktr_reg.h src/sys/dev/sound/pci/ich.c src/sys/kern/subr_unit.c src/sys/modules/netgraph/Makefile.inc src/sys/modules/netgraph/device/Makefile src/sys/netgraph/netgraph.h src/sys/netgraph/ng_base.c src/sys/netgraph/ng_device.c src/sys/netgraph/ng_eiface.c src/sys/netgraph/ng_iface.c src/sys/netgraph/ng_ksocket.c src/sys/netinet/ip_divert.c src/sys/netinet6/ipsec.c src/sys/sys/systm.h Changes 2005-05-27 -> 2005-05-28 (in case the USB errors have something to do with the ATA DMA problems): src/sys/conf/NOTES src/sys/conf/files src/sys/conf/options src/sys/dev/bktr/bktr_reg.h src/sys/kern/subr_unit.c src/sys/modules/netgraph/Makefile.inc src/sys/modules/netgraph/device/Makefile src/sys/netgraph/netgraph.h src/sys/netgraph/ng_base.c src/sys/netgraph/ng_device.c src/sys/netgraph/ng_eiface.c src/sys/netgraph/ng_iface.c src/sys/netgraph/ng_ksocket.c src/sys/netinet/ip_divert.c src/sys/netinet6/ipsec.c src/sys/sys/systm.h Martin From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 27 21:40:08 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9FB7016A420; Mon, 27 Jun 2005 21:40:08 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from rasputnik@hellooperator.net) Received: from mta08-winn.ispmail.ntl.com (mta08-winn.ispmail.ntl.com [81.103.221.48]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C1C1843D48; Mon, 27 Jun 2005 21:40:07 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from rasputnik@hellooperator.net) Received: from aamta10-winn.ispmail.ntl.com ([81.103.221.35]) by mta08-winn.ispmail.ntl.com with ESMTP id <20050627214006.OFJF889.mta08-winn.ispmail.ntl.com@aamta10-winn.ispmail.ntl.com>; Mon, 27 Jun 2005 22:40:06 +0100 Received: from 9.hellooperator.net ([82.31.78.41]) by aamta10-winn.ispmail.ntl.com with ESMTP id <20050627214006.GTGC23101.aamta10-winn.ispmail.ntl.com@9.hellooperator.net>; Mon, 27 Jun 2005 22:40:06 +0100 Received: from [10.4.0.5] (helo=eris.tenfour) by 9.hellooperator.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1Dn1Kj-0001yX-JG; Mon, 27 Jun 2005 22:40:03 +0100 Received: from rasputnik by eris.tenfour with local (Exim 4.51 (FreeBSD)) id 1Dn1Kj-0005NR-HF; Mon, 27 Jun 2005 22:40:01 +0100 Date: Mon, 27 Jun 2005 22:40:01 +0100 From: Dick Davies To: "Simon L. Nielsen" Message-ID: <20050627214001.GA20492@eris.tenfour> References: <20050624095836.GB1311@eris.tenfour> <20050627195248.GE958@zaphod.nitro.dk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="oyUTqETQ0mS9luUI" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20050627195248.GE958@zaphod.nitro.dk> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Cc: FreeBSD Stable Users Subject: Re: marking ports as 'cleaned' in portaudit.conf ? X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Dick Davies List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 27 Jun 2005 21:40:08 -0000 --oyUTqETQ0mS9luUI Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable * Simon L. Nielsen [0652 20:52]: > On 2005.06.24 10:58:36 +0100, Dick Davies wrote: > > > > I just manually patched up my ruby18 install and tried to tell > > portaudit that the local port is now clean, but it doesn't want to > > know: > > > > root@eris rasputnik # portaudit > > Affected package: ruby-1.8.2_3 > > Type of problem: ruby -- arbitrary command execution on XMLRPC server. > > Reference: > > > > ^C > > root@eris rasputnik # cat /usr/local/etc/portaudit.conf > > portaudit_fixed=3D"594eb447-e398-11d9-a8bd-000cf18bbe54" > > root@eris rasputnik # > > > > what did I miss? >=20 > It seems like portaudit_fixed only works for "system" entries, > ie. base system vulnerabilities and is ignored package entries. Oh, OK. I thought portaudit only audited, well, ports :) =20 > I think it would be useful to be able to suppress the certain package > vulnerabilities like you are trying to, but I don't think I will get > around to looking at implementing it any time soon. That's fine, I'll have another look at it when I get half an hour. =20 --=20 'INCREASE the life of your carpets by rolling them up and keeping them in t= he garage.' -- Top Tips Rasputin :: Jack of All Trades - Master of Nuns --oyUTqETQ0mS9luUI Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.1 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFCwHIwVFnamZKfe00RArWDAJ9KSd6EEwoy+it/llmjt+7G8ZCUOQCeIZfy miCyVUrRYX0SanSfJ93FbU0= =tmke -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --oyUTqETQ0mS9luUI-- From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 27 22:18:58 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6452316A41F for ; Mon, 27 Jun 2005 22:18:58 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from billy@nlcc.us) Received: from natco8.natcotech.com (natco8.natcotech.com [205.167.142.108]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0824243D49 for ; Mon, 27 Jun 2005 22:18:57 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from billy@nlcc.us) Received: from localhost (int9.natcotech.com [192.168.1.9]) by natco8.natcotech.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1D34B29804B for ; Mon, 27 Jun 2005 17:18:57 -0500 (CDT) Received: from natco8.natcotech.com ([192.168.1.8]) by localhost (natco9 [192.168.1.9]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 23883-01-2 for ; Mon, 27 Jun 2005 17:18:56 -0500 (CDT) Received: from ibm.nlcc.us (ldhl-ras1-dial-12-28-24-182.natcotech.com [12.28.24.182]) by natco8.natcotech.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D1C4D29801E for ; Mon, 27 Jun 2005 17:18:55 -0500 (CDT) Received: (qmail 51792 invoked by uid 89); 27 Jun 2005 22:18:55 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?192.168.0.2?) (billy@192.168.0.2) by ibm.nlcc.us with SMTP; 27 Jun 2005 22:18:55 -0000 Message-ID: <42C07B4F.4010101@nlcc.us> Date: Mon, 27 Jun 2005 17:18:55 -0500 From: Billy Newsom User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.0; en-US; rv:1.7) Gecko/20040616 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Maher Mohamed , freebsd-stable@freebsd.org References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new-20030616-p10 (Debian) at natco9.natcotech.com Cc: Subject: Re: auto cvsup X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 27 Jun 2005 22:18:58 -0000 Here's a neat little script you can run from cron or commandline. I use it to update the ports tree and the source tree for 5-STABLE. Feel free to change the cvsup logging to suit (I don't log the ports, but I do log important STABLE src stuff). Also, use the correct country for mirrors. You need to install cvsup, portupgrade, fastest_cvsup, and if you want, try freebsd-update. The portupgrade line at the bottom may not be needed by many. But this way, I already have the latest ports distfiles, if I want, so when I am ready to run portupgrade, the download is already on my disk. Ensure you put your cvsup files in the right place (or edit the script below.) I run this every other day on FreeBSD 5.4. The logs help me see what needs to be updated. (Every time it runs, it will show you what ports could be updated. It will also show you what files were updated in the source tree.) my cron entry: 33 2 */2 * * /root/mydaily.sh 1>/dev/null 2>/dev/null Weekly is like this: 33 2 * * 3 /root/mydaily.sh 1>/dev/null 2>/dev/null ***********/root/mydaily.sh********* #!/bin/sh # # Billy saw something like this on 12/18/2004 at: #http://www.oreillynet.com/pub/wlg/6041?page=last&x-order=date # LOGF="/var/log/cvsup.log" exec >>${LOGF} 2>&1 echo "START @ `/bin/date`" #use fastest_cvsup to find fastest geographically #close mirror; I'll check Canada and the US if SERVER=`/usr/local/bin/fastest_cvsup -Q -c ca,us`; then echo "Using STABLE Server:" $SERVER /usr/local/bin/cvsup -L1 -h $SERVER -l /var/log/cvs-lock-s /root/stable-supfile echo "STABLE done @ `/bin/date`" else echo "cvsup-STABLE has a fastest_cvsup problem on...`/bin/date`" fi if SERVER=`/usr/local/bin/fastest_cvsup -Q -c ca,us`; then echo "Using PORTS Server:" $SERVER /usr/local/bin/cvsup -L0 -h $SERVER -l /var/log/cvs-lock-p /root/ports-supfile echo "PORTS done @ `/bin/date`" else echo "cvsup-PORTS has a fastest_cvsup problem on...`/bin/date`" fi #-U (which takes a long time to execute) isn't needed #with the fetchindex command cd /usr/ports make fetchindex /usr/local/sbin/portsdb -u ###################################### # This program is nice, too. Remove two comments below to suit. # echo "Looking for security patches" # freebsd-update fetch ###################################### echo "The following ports need upgrading" /usr/local/sbin/portversion -l "<" echo "" echo "Now downloading the new port distfiles" /usr/local/sbin/portupgrade -OaF |grep -v "Fetching" |grep -v "Skipping" echo "STOP at `/bin/date`." echo "********" Maher Mohamed wrote: > how can i upgrade my cvsup weekly with an auto way? > From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 27 23:25:20 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B85AE16A41C for ; Mon, 27 Jun 2005 23:25:20 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from brdavis@odin.ac.hmc.edu) Received: from odin.ac.hmc.edu (Odin.AC.HMC.Edu [134.173.32.75]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6D61C43D49 for ; Mon, 27 Jun 2005 23:25:20 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from brdavis@odin.ac.hmc.edu) Received: from odin.ac.hmc.edu (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by odin.ac.hmc.edu (8.13.0/8.13.0) with ESMTP id j5RNPKLL027494; Mon, 27 Jun 2005 16:25:20 -0700 Received: (from brdavis@localhost) by odin.ac.hmc.edu (8.13.0/8.13.0/Submit) id j5RNPJNP027493; Mon, 27 Jun 2005 16:25:19 -0700 Date: Mon, 27 Jun 2005 16:25:19 -0700 From: Brooks Davis To: Eitarou Kamo Message-ID: <20050627232519.GF26861@odin.ac.hmc.edu> References: <42B0E56B.4030609@trio.plala.or.jp> <200506161458.51227.doconnor@gsoft.com.au> <42B1C686.4090502@computer.org> <20050616184040.GI21733@odin.ac.hmc.edu> <42BFAA19.5010208@trio.plala.or.jp> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="Pql/uPZNXIm1JCle" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <42BFAA19.5010208@trio.plala.or.jp> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=8.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on odin.ac.hmc.edu Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Atheros drirve X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 27 Jun 2005 23:25:20 -0000 --Pql/uPZNXIm1JCle Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Mon, Jun 27, 2005 at 04:26:17PM +0900, Eitarou Kamo wrote: >=20 >=20 > >It's -current only as it requires incompatable API changes to the > >interface code. > > > > =20 > > > I compiled WPA_Supplicant yesterday on 5.4. But ........ >=20 > Is there any plan back-port it to -stable? No. WPA support requires incompatable changes to the network interface API and thus can no be committed to 5.x. -- Brooks --=20 Any statement of the form "X is the one, true Y" is FALSE. PGP fingerprint 655D 519C 26A7 82E7 2529 9BF0 5D8E 8BE9 F238 1AD4 --Pql/uPZNXIm1JCle Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFCwIrfXY6L6fI4GtQRAt/hAJ9GyWGL7uSoq2UCfRewsghnFnrp7ACgxw5f 6YFs57PMqlMLaukgcuXp6Mc= =em9e -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Pql/uPZNXIm1JCle-- From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 27 23:58:19 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.org Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 21C2E16A41C; Mon, 27 Jun 2005 23:58:19 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from matt@atopia.net) Received: from neptune.atopia.net (neptune.atopia.net [209.128.231.90]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EFCA643D1F; Mon, 27 Jun 2005 23:58:18 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from matt@atopia.net) Received: by neptune.atopia.net (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 63B84409C; Mon, 27 Jun 2005 19:58:18 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by neptune.atopia.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 61A14362; Mon, 27 Jun 2005 19:58:18 -0400 (EDT) Date: Mon, 27 Jun 2005 19:58:18 -0400 (EDT) From: Matt Juszczak To: Gleb Smirnoff In-Reply-To: <20050627081933.GA97832@cell.sick.ru> Message-ID: <20050627195659.W36772@neptune.atopia.net> References: <42BF8815.6090909@atopia.net> <20050627081933.GA97832@cell.sick.ru> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD -STABLE servers repeatedly crashing. X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 27 Jun 2005 23:58:19 -0000 > Can you please build kernel with debugging and obtain a crashdump? High activity on the box today caused us to be able to crash it again within 9 hours. I configured all steps per the developers handbook, but when I went to do savecore, it said "no dumps". It appears the machine is completely locked up when it does a kernel trap. The keyboard is non-responsive, and the machine hangs and doesn't reboot. Any other suggestions would be greatly appreciated. For now I am going to take the box out of SMP mode which will hopefully keep it stable until I can find some further instructions. Regards, Matt From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jun 28 01:19:10 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4091416A4D0; Tue, 28 Jun 2005 01:19:05 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from lsc@jane.prgmr.com) Received: from jane.prgmr.com (host-69-19-197-42.rev.o1.com [69.19.197.42]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E6C3143E50; Tue, 28 Jun 2005 01:06:14 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from lsc@jane.prgmr.com) Received: from lsc (helo=localhost) by jane.prgmr.com with local-esmtp (Exim 4.51 (FreeBSD)) id 1Dn4Vz-000Hwu-5M; Tue, 28 Jun 2005 01:03:51 +0000 Date: Tue, 28 Jun 2005 01:03:51 +0000 (UTC) From: lsc@prgmr.com To: dd@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20050628005903.O67131@mail.prgmr.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Sender: User Lsc Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: mount_mfs formats file-backed mfs disks upon mount X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 28 Jun 2005 01:19:10 -0000 I see a patch has been submitted to add a 'don't format' option for people like me who use such things as jail disks... but it was last changed in 2004 and is still open. Problem Report bin/57641. Thanks. From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jun 28 01:19:23 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: stable@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 420A816A4FE for ; Tue, 28 Jun 2005 01:19:08 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from markir@paradise.net.nz) Received: from linda-3.paradise.net.nz (bm-3a.paradise.net.nz [202.0.58.22]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D75DB43E8D for ; Tue, 28 Jun 2005 01:11:17 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from markir@paradise.net.nz) Received: from smtp-1.paradise.net.nz (smtp-1b.paradise.net.nz [202.0.32.210]) by linda-3.paradise.net.nz (Paradise.net.nz) with ESMTP id <0IIR006XWSMSLA@linda-3.paradise.net.nz> for stable@freebsd.org; Tue, 28 Jun 2005 13:11:16 +1200 (NZST) Received: from [192.168.1.11] (218-101-14-94.paradise.net.nz [218.101.14.94]) by smtp-1.paradise.net.nz (Postfix) with ESMTP id E849A827B9; Tue, 28 Jun 2005 13:11:15 +1200 (NZST) Date: Tue, 28 Jun 2005 13:11:15 +1200 From: Mark Kirkwood In-reply-to: <20050627161512.GE643@bibipentium.lonres.com> To: Steve Roome Message-id: <42C0A3B3.3080405@paradise.net.nz> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Accept-Language: en-us, en User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.2 (X11/20050511) References: <20050627161512.GE643@bibipentium.lonres.com> Cc: stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD MySQL still WAY slower than Linux X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 28 Jun 2005 01:19:23 -0000 Steve Roome wrote: > I posted these results and anything else that went with this thread to > the freebsd-performance mailing list. > > -current proved a slightly better performer for us, but not enough to > bring it even close to the performance we get with gentoo. > > Off the top of my head the select key benchmarks were ROUGHLY: > > FreeBSD 5.various + MySQL 4.various : ROUGHLY 16k queries/second > FreeBSD 6.0-current + MySQL 4.1.12 : ROUGHLY 18k queries/second > Gentoo-something + MySQL 4.1.something : ROUGHLY 30k queries/second. > > The exact figures were posted to performance- (6.0 tests) and stable- > (gentoo vs. freebsd 5.x). > > Good luck to anyone who can manage to get MySQL to perform as well on > FreeBSD as Linux, we've been right out of luck so far and that's > really not advocating FreeBSD very well, which is what I'd rather be > doing. > I missed the mail where you mentioned this (apologies), thanks for updating us, well - me anyway :-) Hmmm - the results are a bit discouraging aren't they? I notice that (you mentioned) the Mysql guys were going to see if they can identify where the issue is. That would be good! best wishes Mark From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jun 28 01:19:31 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B2C2916A547 for ; Tue, 28 Jun 2005 01:19:18 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jmartin37@speakeasy.net) Received: from mail26.sea5.speakeasy.net (mail26.sea5.speakeasy.net [69.17.117.28]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E4C3B43D73 for ; Tue, 28 Jun 2005 01:19:00 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jmartin37@speakeasy.net) Received: (qmail 32370 invoked from network); 28 Jun 2005 01:19:00 -0000 Received: from dsl027-163-157.atl1.dsl.speakeasy.net (HELO [192.168.0.200]) (moonlightcheese@[216.27.163.157]) (envelope-sender ) by mail26.sea5.speakeasy.net (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for ; 28 Jun 2005 01:19:00 -0000 Message-ID: <42C0A588.3060407@speakeasy.net> Date: Mon, 27 Jun 2005 21:19:04 -0400 From: Jarrod Martin User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (Windows/20041206) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Martin Nilsson References: <20050626233114.G57847@ganymede.hub.org> <004201c57adf$49367ad0$0c00a8c0@artem> <42BF9EC2.1060203@gneto.com> In-Reply-To: <42BF9EC2.1060203@gneto.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Artem Kuchin , freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: SATA vs SCSI ... X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 28 Jun 2005 01:19:32 -0000 Martin Nilsson wrote: > Artem Kuchin wrote: > >> Marc G. Fournier wrote: >> >> For the last 6 month i really think that if you don't need something >> high-end scsi then you should go for SATA. > > > Fair enough if you don't need high-end yoy shuld go lowend. But read on.. > >> There are test on sites such as >> Tom's hardware guide and ixbt.com. They show then on sequrncial read >> there is no difference between scsi and sata. > > > That is a well known fact. It is also a totally useless parameter for > server use. > > >> Acatuallty, modern hdds use the same mechanics for sata and scsi > > > versions of them. The brains > > This is simply not true. There were a couple of drives about 10yrs ago > where this was true eg. Quantum Lightning which were available in both > IDE and SCSI > > Todays SCSI drives have _nothing_ in common with SATA/ATA drives. > >> However, when it comes to random read/writesscsi wins because of > > > command queueing. > > And faster accesstime and higher rotational speed (lower latency) you > simply can't compare a 7200rpm drive to a 15000rpm drive no matter > what interface it has. > >> Recently SATA with NCQ became widly available. Test show that some of >> those >> SATA disks with NCW ***WIN*** over scsi 320. > > > To use NCQ drive, controller and OS needs to support it, only a few > controllers supports NCQ and FreeBSD have no support at all! this brings up a very interesting question. for anyone who has read up on the SATA-II (or SATA-IO, as it has been renamed...) standard... not all SATA-II harddrives have to support NCQ, nor do they have to have the 3Gb/s transfer rate. now does this also mean that motherboards which have SATA-II compliant chips don't have to support those features either? how do you know you're actually getting these features? i think perhaps the standard has been a little messed up since they didn't force a set of standards to be included in a "SATA-II" drive... > >> The test envolve artificialy randomread/write tests as well as > > > real application benchmarking. I din't rememeber where > >> excatly i saw the tests on those site, but you could search. > > > The tests on tomshardware are windows single user centric, they never > test server workloads, their audience are kids who plays games... > >> So, my opinion, workstation never needs SCSI and every server MUST be >> on mirror or RAID5 and there you should use SATA with NCQ drivers >> unless, >> your applicaton is really weird and needs something extremely speedy. >> Then, however, >> you could go for RAID 0+1 and get perfomance that SCSI will never get >> you. > > > Want something cheap with lots of space? SATA > Want something that works and is fast? SCSI > > Using SATA for databases and mailservers is going to give you bad > performance. > > Regards, > Martin > also, if anyone has read the reviews at anandtech.com there has been lots of evidence that shows that, on certain operations, NCQ actually performs worse in real world tests. with the Maxtor DiamondMax 10, Seagate 7200.8 and several other NCQ drives, the NCQ caused lag in certain disk operations. NCQ, at least for now, is highly over-rated. From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jun 28 02:32:07 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AD6BE16A41F for ; Tue, 28 Jun 2005 02:32:07 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from decibel@decibel.org) Received: from flake.decibel.org (flake.decibel.org [67.100.216.10]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8270A43D1D for ; Tue, 28 Jun 2005 02:32:07 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from decibel@decibel.org) Received: by flake.decibel.org (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 97FFE15229; Mon, 27 Jun 2005 21:32:04 -0500 (CDT) Date: Mon, 27 Jun 2005 21:32:04 -0500 From: "Jim C. Nasby" To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20050628023204.GB39875@decibel.org> Mail-Followup-To: "Jim C. Nasby" , freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 4.11-RELEASE-p10 i386 X-Distributed: Join the Effort! http://www.distributed.net User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.9i Subject: Problem with p5-Net-DNS and SpamAssassin X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 28 Jun 2005 02:32:07 -0000 Just as a heads-up, spamd currently will not do DNS lookups (meaning no RBL's). This is due to a bug in p5-Net-DNS that was introduced in either version .49 or .50. I downloaded http://lnk.nu/freebsd.org/3b1.gz (go to http://lnk.nu/freebsd.org/3b2/ and hit the tarball link at the bottom) and extracted in into /usr/ports/dns and it fixed the issue. -- Jim C. Nasby, Database Consultant decibel@decibel.org Give your computer some brain candy! www.distributed.net Team #1828 Windows: "Where do you want to go today?" Linux: "Where do you want to go tomorrow?" FreeBSD: "Are you guys coming, or what?" From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jun 28 02:43:55 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7905C16A41C for ; Tue, 28 Jun 2005 02:43:55 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from big@kuwaitnet.net) Received: from orbit.kuwaitnet.net (orbit.kuwaitnet.net [216.40.249.67]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 446B543D1D for ; Tue, 28 Jun 2005 02:43:55 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from big@kuwaitnet.net) Received: from [62.150.203.132] (helo=[192.168.1.70]) by orbit.kuwaitnet.net with esmtpa (Exim 4.50) id 1Dn64k-00040W-FE; Tue, 28 Jun 2005 05:43:50 +0300 Message-ID: <42C0B966.4070003@kuwaitnet.net> Date: Tue, 28 Jun 2005 05:43:50 +0300 From: Bashar User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.2 (Windows/20050317) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Jim C. Nasby" References: <20050628023204.GB39875@decibel.org> In-Reply-To: <20050628023204.GB39875@decibel.org> X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - orbit.kuwaitnet.net X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - freebsd.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [0 0] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - kuwaitnet.net X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1256; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Problem with p5-Net-DNS and SpamAssassin X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 28 Jun 2005 02:43:55 -0000 there hs been a workaround solution discussed at http://forums.cpanel.net/showthread.php?t=40052 too by applying this http://forums.cpanel.net/showthread.php?p=190310#post190310 should fix the problem Jim C. Nasby wrote: >Just as a heads-up, spamd currently will not do DNS lookups (meaning no >RBL's). This is due to a bug in p5-Net-DNS that was introduced in either >version .49 or .50. I downloaded http://lnk.nu/freebsd.org/3b1.gz (go to >http://lnk.nu/freebsd.org/3b2/ and hit the tarball link at the bottom) >and extracted in into /usr/ports/dns and it fixed the issue. > > From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jun 28 04:43:23 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AF2CA16A43D; Tue, 28 Jun 2005 04:43:23 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from deischen@freebsd.org) Received: from mail.ntplx.net (mail.ntplx.net [204.213.176.10]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4ABCA43D5C; Tue, 28 Jun 2005 04:43:23 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from deischen@freebsd.org) Received: from sea.ntplx.net (sea.ntplx.net [204.213.176.11]) by mail.ntplx.net (8.13.4/8.13.4/NETPLEX) with ESMTP id j5S4hLZb017083; Tue, 28 Jun 2005 00:43:22 -0400 (EDT) Date: Tue, 28 Jun 2005 00:43:21 -0400 (EDT) From: Daniel Eischen X-X-Sender: eischen@sea.ntplx.net To: Michael Nottebrock In-Reply-To: <200506271959.18397.lofi@freebsd.org> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=X-UNKNOWN Content-Transfer-Encoding: QUOTED-PRINTABLE X-Virus-Scanned: by AMaViS and Clam AntiVirus (mail.ntplx.net) Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: kpdf crashes with LIBPTHREAD_SYSTEM_SCOPE set (Was: Re: FreeBSD MySQL still WAY slower than Linux) X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Daniel Eischen List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 28 Jun 2005 04:43:23 -0000 On Mon, 27 Jun 2005, Michael Nottebrock wrote: > On Monday, 20. June 2005 19:17, Daniel Eischen wrote: > > > > Works here on a month or two old -current. =A0I'm using > > > > /usr/local/ant/docs/appendix_e.pdf as a test (it's 60 pages or so). > > > > > > Crashes for me: > > > > > > [lofi@kiste]:127:~ > env LIBPTHREAD_SYSTEM_SCOPE=3D1 kpdf > > > 'http://drtc.isibang.ac.in/%7Eprachi/apache-ant-1.5.4/docs/appendix_e= =2Epdf > > >' Bus error > > > [lofi@kiste]:1:~ > kpdf > > > 'http://drtc.isibang.ac.in/%7Eprachi/apache-ant-1.5.4/docs/appendix_e= =2Epdf > > >' [lofi@kiste]:0:~ > > > > > > > I don't have a -CURRENT machine to test. > > > > Try -stable. > > I just retried with today's 5.4-STABLE - still crashes. I can't reproduce it in -current. -bash-2.05b$ uname -a FreeBSD orion 6.0-CURRENT FreeBSD 6.0-CURRENT #0: Thu May 5 13:29:41 EDT 2= 005 --=20 DE From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jun 28 08:27:41 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A0E2216A41C for ; Tue, 28 Jun 2005 08:27:41 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from B.Candler@pobox.com) Received: from orb.pobox.com (orb.pobox.com [207.8.226.5]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 761CF43D48 for ; Tue, 28 Jun 2005 08:27:41 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from B.Candler@pobox.com) Received: from orb (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by orb.pobox.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C03B51F8C for ; Tue, 28 Jun 2005 04:27:31 -0400 (EDT) Received: from bloodhound.noc.clara.net (bloodhound.noc.clara.net [195.8.70.207]) (using TLSv1 with cipher RC4-MD5 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by orb.sasl.smtp.pobox.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A936B8C for ; Tue, 28 Jun 2005 04:27:31 -0400 (EDT) From: Brian Candler To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Date: Tue, 28 Jun 2005 09:27:38 +0100 User-Agent: KMail/1.8 References: <200506271338.53836.B.Candler@pobox.com> <200506271414.24422.B.Candler@pobox.com> <200506271439.50716.B.Candler@pobox.com> In-Reply-To: <200506271439.50716.B.Candler@pobox.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200506280927.38786.B.Candler@pobox.com> Subject: Re: atkbd: changing flags at boot time X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 28 Jun 2005 08:27:41 -0000 > from /boot/loader.conf: > > userconfig_script_load="YES" > > from /boot/kernel.conf: > > flags atkbd0 0 > quit That works, many thanks! (I haven't used FreeBSD 4 for a while, but the place I'm currently working hasn't yet decided to move to 5 or 6...) Regards, Brian. From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jun 28 08:37:35 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: stable@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 65C3016A41C for ; Tue, 28 Jun 2005 08:37:35 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from eirik@unicore.no) Received: from anduin.net (anduin.net [212.12.46.226]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2885943D55 for ; Tue, 28 Jun 2005 08:37:34 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from eirik@unicore.no) Received: from [213.225.74.100] (helo=[192.168.200.110]) by anduin.net with esmtpa (Exim 4.50 (FreeBSD)) id 1DnBb3-000K3v-CR for stable@freebsd.org; Tue, 28 Jun 2005 10:37:33 +0200 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v730) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <92135CB3-5540-4D06-A991-708C8AAD6AC7@unicore.no> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed To: stable@freebsd.org From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Eirik_=D8verby?= Date: Tue, 28 Jun 2005 10:37:29 +0200 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.730) Cc: Subject: Jails that won't die... X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 28 Jun 2005 08:37:35 -0000 Hi, I have, since upgrading to 5.x and updating my management tools, seen a number of problems relating to stopping jails. I'm maintaining several hosts with a number of full-featured jails (i.e. full virtual FreeBSD installations in each jail), and in general this works fine. However, whenever I stop a jail using 'jexec kill -SIGNAL -1' or 'jexec /bin/sh /etc/rc.shutdown' (in various combinations), jails have a tendency to stick around for minutes or hours - according to 'jls'. Often I see an entry in 'netstat -a' indicating that there is one or more sockets in FIN_WAIT state, preventing the jail from coming down. Taking the virtual network interface (alias) down does not help. All I can do at this point is wait. I normally use 'jls' to determine whether or not a jail can be restarted (i.e. it's not running), but this is pretty useless in such cases. And right now I have a case where 'netstat -a' shows me nothing pertaining to the jail, though it has no processes running. I have therefore force-started the jail again, which seems to work nicely, but now 'jls' gives me two entries for this jail, with different JIDs. What am I doing wrong here? /Eirik From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jun 28 09:08:42 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.org Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3886216A41C for ; Tue, 28 Jun 2005 09:08:42 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from glebius@FreeBSD.org) Received: from relay.bestcom.ru (relay.bestcom.ru [217.72.144.5]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7E06243D48 for ; Tue, 28 Jun 2005 09:08:41 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from glebius@FreeBSD.org) Received: from cell.sick.ru (root@cell.sick.ru [217.72.144.68]) by relay.bestcom.ru (8.13.1/8.12.9) with ESMTP id j5S98Wms011467 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=FAIL); Tue, 28 Jun 2005 13:08:33 +0400 (MSD) (envelope-from glebius@FreeBSD.org) Received: from cell.sick.ru (glebius@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by cell.sick.ru (8.13.1/8.12.8) with ESMTP id j5S98W8v012402 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Tue, 28 Jun 2005 13:08:32 +0400 (MSD) (envelope-from glebius@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from glebius@localhost) by cell.sick.ru (8.13.1/8.13.1/Submit) id j5S98WIc012401; Tue, 28 Jun 2005 13:08:32 +0400 (MSD) (envelope-from glebius@FreeBSD.org) X-Authentication-Warning: cell.sick.ru: glebius set sender to glebius@FreeBSD.org using -f Date: Tue, 28 Jun 2005 13:08:31 +0400 From: Gleb Smirnoff To: Matt Juszczak Message-ID: <20050628090831.GA12297@cell.sick.ru> References: <42BF8815.6090909@atopia.net> <20050627081933.GA97832@cell.sick.ru> <20050627195659.W36772@neptune.atopia.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=koi8-r Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20050627195659.W36772@neptune.atopia.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.6i X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV version devel-20050125, clamav-milter version 0.80ff on relay.bestcom.ru X-Virus-Status: Clean Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD -STABLE servers repeatedly crashing. X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 28 Jun 2005 09:08:42 -0000 On Mon, Jun 27, 2005 at 07:58:18PM -0400, Matt Juszczak wrote: M> >Can you please build kernel with debugging and obtain a crashdump? M> M> High activity on the box today caused us to be able to crash it again M> within 9 hours. I configured all steps per the developers handbook, but M> when I went to do savecore, it said "no dumps". M> M> It appears the machine is completely locked up when it does a kernel trap. M> The keyboard is non-responsive, and the machine hangs and doesn't reboot. Please try out this patch to aid the above problem with hang instead of dump: http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/cvsweb.cgi/src/sys/i386/i386/trap.c.diff?r1=1.275&r2=1.276 -- Totus tuus, Glebius. GLEBIUS-RIPN GLEB-RIPE From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jun 28 09:21:28 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 59DD816A41C for ; Tue, 28 Jun 2005 09:21:28 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from neuhauser@sigpipe.cz) Received: from isis.sigpipe.cz (fw.sigpipe.cz [62.245.70.224]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0A8CB43D48 for ; Tue, 28 Jun 2005 09:21:27 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from neuhauser@sigpipe.cz) Received: by isis.sigpipe.cz (Postfix, from userid 1001) id D898C1F87BEE; Tue, 28 Jun 2005 11:21:26 +0200 (CEST) Date: Tue, 28 Jun 2005 11:21:26 +0200 From: Roman Neuhauser To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG, Michael Schuh Message-ID: <20050628092126.GB48140@isis.sigpipe.cz> References: <1dbad315050621051525f4c6fc@mail.gmail.com> <200506211451.j5LEpA2W024350@lurza.secnetix.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <200506211451.j5LEpA2W024350@lurza.secnetix.de> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.9i Cc: Subject: Re: FreeBSD MySQL still WAY slower than Linux X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 28 Jun 2005 09:21:28 -0000 # olli@lurza.secnetix.de / 2005-06-21 16:51:10 +0200: > For accurate measurements and comparisons, you have to make > sure to use _exactly_ the same physical location on the > disk. No you don't. You want to make a side-by-side comparison of two products, and if one of them underperforms, it just underperforms. You cannot use a poor location selection strategy in the driver as an excuse for poor operation. In all honesty, I'm getting somewhat irritated by all the "dd is meaningless performance measurement tool, use something real" and similar arguments: dd is a real command for real work, and if it shows abysmal performance of sequential writes, then there's a problem. > But then again -- as others have already mentioned, serial > write speed is not the most important factor for database > performance (although the WAL journal files of advanced > transactional databases like PostgreSQL are written in a > sequential way), so the usefulness of this "benchmark" is > very debatable. Well, how about a few GB large table physically ordered ("clustered") on a column, that goes through repeated sequential scans? This *is* a real-world situation, and every bit of speed counts (the live server I'm talking about has the database on SCSI disks, but development machines frequently differ). -- How many Vietnam vets does it take to screw in a light bulb? You don't know, man. You don't KNOW. Cause you weren't THERE. http://bash.org/?255991 From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jun 28 09:25:01 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: stable@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C5CD416A41C for ; Tue, 28 Jun 2005 09:25:01 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from tarkhil@webmail.sub.ru) Received: from techno.sub.ru (webmail.sub.ru [213.247.139.22]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id F3E0543D48 for ; Tue, 28 Jun 2005 09:25:00 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from tarkhil@webmail.sub.ru) Received: (qmail 43766 invoked by uid 0); 28 Jun 2005 09:25:21 -0000 Received: from webmail.sub.ru (HELO localhost) (213.247.139.22) by techno.sub.ru with SMTP; 28 Jun 2005 09:25:21 -0000 Received: from unknown ([213.247.139.22]) by localhost (webmail.sub.ru [213.247.139.22]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with SMTP id 41491-06 for ; Tue, 28 Jun 2005 13:25:13 +0400 (MSD) Received: from webmail.sub.ru (HELO control.sub.ru) (213.247.139.22) by techno.sub.ru with SMTP; 28 Jun 2005 09:25:12 -0000 Received: (qmail 43473 invoked by uid 0); 28 Jun 2005 09:25:03 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO armada) (192.168.1.251) by control.sub.ru with SMTP; 28 Jun 2005 09:25:03 -0000 Received: (qmail 41808 invoked from network); 28 Jun 2005 09:20:29 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO localhost.titl.ru) (127.0.0.1) by armada with SMTP; 28 Jun 2005 09:20:29 -0000 From: Alex Povolotsky To: stable@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain Date: Tue, 28 Jun 2005 13:20:28 +0400 Message-Id: <1119950428.22027.1.camel@tarkhil> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.2.3 FreeBSD GNOME Team Port Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at mail.sub.ru Cc: Subject: On recent crashes X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 28 Jun 2005 09:25:01 -0000 Hello! Can anyone enlighten me, if recent crashes are on STABLE only or 5.4-RELEASE is affected as well? I'm going to upgrade SMP Intel box (PIIIs) and it can make hard time if it will become unstable. -- Alex Povolotsky From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jun 28 09:35:06 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A797C16A41C for ; Tue, 28 Jun 2005 09:35:06 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from doconnor@gsoft.com.au) Received: from cain.gsoft.com.au (cain.gsoft.com.au [203.31.81.10]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E9B7E43D1D for ; Tue, 28 Jun 2005 09:35:05 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from doconnor@gsoft.com.au) Received: from inchoate.gsoft.com.au (localhost [127.0.0.1]) (authenticated bits=0) by cain.gsoft.com.au (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id j5S9YwnN027499; Tue, 28 Jun 2005 19:04:59 +0930 (CST) (envelope-from doconnor@gsoft.com.au) From: "Daniel O'Connor" To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Date: Tue, 28 Jun 2005 19:04:18 +0930 User-Agent: KMail/1.8 References: <1dbad315050621051525f4c6fc@mail.gmail.com> <200506211451.j5LEpA2W024350@lurza.secnetix.de> <20050628092126.GB48140@isis.sigpipe.cz> In-Reply-To: <20050628092126.GB48140@isis.sigpipe.cz> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="nextPart3602168.TQE5VqBfCS"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=pgp-sha1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <200506281904.48464.doconnor@gsoft.com.au> X-Spam-Score: -2.4 () ALL_TRUSTED X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.51 on 203.31.81.10 Cc: Michael Schuh , Roman Neuhauser Subject: Re: FreeBSD MySQL still WAY slower than Linux X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 28 Jun 2005 09:35:06 -0000 --nextPart3602168.TQE5VqBfCS Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline On Tue, 28 Jun 2005 18:51, Roman Neuhauser wrote: > No you don't. You want to make a side-by-side comparison > of two products, and if one of them underperforms, it just > underperforms. You cannot use a poor location selection > strategy in the driver as an excuse for poor operation. Why not? It's not a side-by-side comparison if the underlying hardware is different.. I don't think ascribing ALL the poor performance to being on the wrong part= of=20 the disk is putting your head in the sand, but it DOES make a difference. > In all honesty, I'm getting somewhat irritated by all the > "dd is meaningless performance measurement tool, use something > real" and similar arguments: dd is a real command for real > work, and if it shows abysmal performance of sequential writes, > then there's a problem. dd is a useful start, but you shouldn't read too much into the results sinc= e,=20 in general, dd doesn't reflect real world usage patterns. There are some people who seem to want to ignore the results and shoot them= =20 down with bland assertions about how poorly the tests have been run. There= =20 are also people doing crappy tests, however there IS a middle ground where = I=20 think most reasonable people are sitting - they want decent tests, and have= a=20 good attitude to fixing the problems. =2D-=20 Daniel O'Connor software and network engineer for Genesis Software - http://www.gsoft.com.au "The nice thing about standards is that there are so many of them to choose from." -- Andrew Tanenbaum GPG Fingerprint - 5596 B766 97C0 0E94 4347 295E E593 DC20 7B3F CE8C --nextPart3602168.TQE5VqBfCS Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.1 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQBCwRm45ZPcIHs/zowRAlKUAJsEJoQuUwQoyZCyuYde3JcGJgJluQCdEL8Y Nj77+PjQAZdjV8NaTN11u4I= =jvhk -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --nextPart3602168.TQE5VqBfCS-- From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jun 28 10:01:05 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: stable@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 42C0A16A41F for ; Tue, 28 Jun 2005 10:01:05 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from uzi@bmby.com) Received: from dev.bmby.co.il (l192-114-46-204.broadband.actcom.net.il [192.114.46.204]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 86B4F43D4C for ; Tue, 28 Jun 2005 10:01:03 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from uzi@bmby.com) Received: from [192.168.0.2] ([192.168.0.2]) by dev.bmby.co.il (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id j5SA11t0021851; Tue, 28 Jun 2005 13:01:01 +0300 Message-ID: <42C12DDC.7090401@bmby.com> Date: Tue, 28 Jun 2005 13:00:44 +0200 From: Uzi Klein Organization: B.M.B.Y Software Systems Ltd. User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.2 (Windows/20050317) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Alex Povolotsky References: <1119950428.22027.1.camel@tarkhil> In-Reply-To: <1119950428.22027.1.camel@tarkhil> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: On recent crashes X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 28 Jun 2005 10:01:05 -0000 Alex Povolotsky wrote: > Hello! > > Can anyone enlighten me, if recent crashes are on STABLE only or > 5.4-RELEASE is affected as well? What crashes? ;) > > I'm going to upgrade SMP Intel box (PIIIs) and it can make hard time if > it will become unstable. > From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jun 28 10:41:33 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AB9C716A41C for ; Tue, 28 Jun 2005 10:41:33 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from igorr@speechpro.com) Received: from speechpro.com (speech-tech-2.ip.PeterStar.net [81.3.190.130]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6A0F543D55 for ; Tue, 28 Jun 2005 10:41:33 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from igorr@speechpro.com) Received: from sysadm.stc ([192.168.2.26]) by s1.stc with esmtp (Exim 4.44 (FreeBSD)) id 1DnDX1-000NXm-Mz for freebsd-stable@freebsd.org; Tue, 28 Jun 2005 14:41:31 +0400 Message-ID: <42C1294B.3010907@speechpro.com> Date: Tue, 28 Jun 2005 14:41:15 +0400 From: Igor Robul User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.2 (X11/20050518) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org References: <1119950428.22027.1.camel@tarkhil> In-Reply-To: <1119950428.22027.1.camel@tarkhil> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=KOI8-R; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Archived: Yes Subject: Re: On recent crashes X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 28 Jun 2005 10:41:33 -0000 Alex Povolotsky wrote: >Hello! > >Can anyone enlighten me, if recent crashes are on STABLE only or >5.4-RELEASE is affected as well? > >I'm going to upgrade SMP Intel box (PIIIs) and it can make hard time if >it will become unstable. > > > I have Dual PIII on Intel ServerWorks motherboard with 3Ware 8608 SATA RAID-5 setup and all works fine except not so good RAID-5 performance on _very_ large Courier-IMAP folders, but I have moved these archive folders to SCSI harddisks and all fine now. So, what crashes? :-) From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jun 28 11:13:34 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1633E16A41C for ; Tue, 28 Jun 2005 11:13:34 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from neuhauser@sigpipe.cz) Received: from isis.sigpipe.cz (fw.sigpipe.cz [62.245.70.224]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C20E443D48 for ; Tue, 28 Jun 2005 11:13:33 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from neuhauser@sigpipe.cz) Received: by isis.sigpipe.cz (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 3AC591F87BEE; Tue, 28 Jun 2005 13:13:32 +0200 (CEST) Date: Tue, 28 Jun 2005 13:13:32 +0200 From: Roman Neuhauser To: Daniel O'Connor Message-ID: <20050628111332.GC48140@isis.sigpipe.cz> References: <1dbad315050621051525f4c6fc@mail.gmail.com> <200506211451.j5LEpA2W024350@lurza.secnetix.de> <20050628092126.GB48140@isis.sigpipe.cz> <200506281904.48464.doconnor@gsoft.com.au> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <200506281904.48464.doconnor@gsoft.com.au> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.9i Cc: Michael Schuh , freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD MySQL still WAY slower than Linux X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 28 Jun 2005 11:13:34 -0000 # doconnor@gsoft.com.au / 2005-06-28 19:04:18 +0930: > On Tue, 28 Jun 2005 18:51, Roman Neuhauser wrote: > > No you don't. You want to make a side-by-side comparison > > of two products, and if one of them underperforms, it just > > underperforms. You cannot use a poor location selection > > strategy in the driver as an excuse for poor operation. > dd is a useful start, but you shouldn't read too much into the results since, > in general, dd doesn't reflect real world usage patterns. Huh? Various people have reacted to the "dd doesn't reflect real world" with "but I *do* use dd in real world". -- How many Vietnam vets does it take to screw in a light bulb? You don't know, man. You don't KNOW. Cause you weren't THERE. http://bash.org/?255991 From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jun 28 11:15:47 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9BD4616A41C for ; Tue, 28 Jun 2005 11:15:47 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from neuhauser@sigpipe.cz) Received: from isis.sigpipe.cz (fw.sigpipe.cz [62.245.70.224]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5489343D4C for ; Tue, 28 Jun 2005 11:15:47 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from neuhauser@sigpipe.cz) Received: by isis.sigpipe.cz (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 7A6771F87BF0; Tue, 28 Jun 2005 13:15:46 +0200 (CEST) Date: Tue, 28 Jun 2005 13:15:46 +0200 From: Roman Neuhauser To: Dominic Marks Message-ID: <20050628111546.GD48140@isis.sigpipe.cz> References: <200506261929.27681.dom@goodforbusiness.co.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <200506261929.27681.dom@goodforbusiness.co.uk> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.9i Cc: Maher Mohamed , freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: portinstall .vs. make install clean X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 28 Jun 2005 11:15:47 -0000 # dom@goodforbusiness.co.uk / 2005-06-26 19:29:27 +0100: > On Sunday 26 June 2005 19:12, Maher Mohamed wrote: > > can some tell me what is the difference bitween portinstall and make > > install clean, and in which way should one portupgrade its ports? > > portinstall is a ruby program which comes with portupgrade which > you can use to build and install ports. It can do some things which > you can't do with a simple 'make install'. For example, I often > use portinstall to create packages for a port and its dependancies. As in (make package-recursive)? That's not to say that portinstall isn't useful, I use it most of the time, FWIW. -- How many Vietnam vets does it take to screw in a light bulb? You don't know, man. You don't KNOW. Cause you weren't THERE. http://bash.org/?255991 From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jun 28 11:19:28 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0FB6616A41C for ; Tue, 28 Jun 2005 11:19:28 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from martin@gneto.com) Received: from av9-1-sn3.vrr.skanova.net (av9-1-sn3.vrr.skanova.net [81.228.9.185]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C015F43D49 for ; Tue, 28 Jun 2005 11:19:27 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from martin@gneto.com) Received: by av9-1-sn3.vrr.skanova.net (Postfix, from userid 502) id 3BE9F37EE2; Tue, 28 Jun 2005 13:19:26 +0200 (CEST) Received: from smtp3-2-sn3.vrr.skanova.net (smtp3-2-sn3.vrr.skanova.net [81.228.9.102]) by av9-1-sn3.vrr.skanova.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 76EAD37E46; Tue, 28 Jun 2005 13:19:25 +0200 (CEST) Received: from [192.168.2.30] (h99n2fls34o985.telia.com [213.66.202.99]) by smtp3-2-sn3.vrr.skanova.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2E23637E42; Tue, 28 Jun 2005 13:19:25 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <42C1323B.9030300@gneto.com> Date: Tue, 28 Jun 2005 13:19:23 +0200 From: Martin Nilsson User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (Windows/20041206) X-Accept-Language: sv, en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Roman Neuhauser , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG, Michael Schuh References: <1dbad315050621051525f4c6fc@mail.gmail.com> <200506211451.j5LEpA2W024350@lurza.secnetix.de> <20050628092126.GB48140@isis.sigpipe.cz> In-Reply-To: <20050628092126.GB48140@isis.sigpipe.cz> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Subject: Re: FreeBSD MySQL still WAY slower than Linux X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 28 Jun 2005 11:19:28 -0000 Roman Neuhauser wrote: > In all honesty, I'm getting somewhat irritated by all the > "dd is meaningless performance measurement tool, use something > real" and similar arguments: dd is a real command for real > work, and if it shows abysmal performance of sequential writes, > then there's a problem. There _is_ something strange with dd as sequential block reads with bonnie (and vfs.read_max=16) is faster than reading direct from the device with dd! RAID0 7*36GB Maxtor 10K4, MegaRAID 320-2E default newfs -------Sequential Output-------- ---Sequential Input-- -Per Char- --Block--- -Rewrite-- -Per Char- --Block--- 5.4 2048 106839 84.7 115268 32.1 30204 9.0 78264 80.2 136833 21.5 5.4v 2048 105996 84.4 114560 32.2 29208 8.8 81671 84.7 227416 39.4 v = vfs.read_max=16 I don't have exact numbers at hand but dd if=/dev/amrd0 of=/dev/null bs=1024k count=1024 gave about ~120MB/s not anywhere near 227MB! /Martin From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jun 28 11:35:30 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0293E16A41C for ; Tue, 28 Jun 2005 11:35:30 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from doconnor@gsoft.com.au) Received: from cain.gsoft.com.au (cain.gsoft.com.au [203.31.81.10]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 630D143D1D for ; Tue, 28 Jun 2005 11:35:28 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from doconnor@gsoft.com.au) Received: from inchoate.gsoft.com.au (localhost [127.0.0.1]) (authenticated bits=0) by cain.gsoft.com.au (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id j5SBZQif028671; Tue, 28 Jun 2005 21:05:26 +0930 (CST) (envelope-from doconnor@gsoft.com.au) From: "Daniel O'Connor" To: Roman Neuhauser Date: Tue, 28 Jun 2005 21:05:13 +0930 User-Agent: KMail/1.8 References: <1dbad315050621051525f4c6fc@mail.gmail.com> <200506281904.48464.doconnor@gsoft.com.au> <20050628111332.GC48140@isis.sigpipe.cz> In-Reply-To: <20050628111332.GC48140@isis.sigpipe.cz> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="nextPart8116661.EzeYXz61JX"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=pgp-sha1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <200506282105.20586.doconnor@gsoft.com.au> X-Spam-Score: -2.4 () ALL_TRUSTED X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.51 on 203.31.81.10 Cc: Michael Schuh , freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD MySQL still WAY slower than Linux X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 28 Jun 2005 11:35:30 -0000 --nextPart8116661.EzeYXz61JX Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline On Tue, 28 Jun 2005 20:43, Roman Neuhauser wrote: > # doconnor@gsoft.com.au / 2005-06-28 19:04:18 +0930: > > On Tue, 28 Jun 2005 18:51, Roman Neuhauser wrote: > > > No you don't. You want to make a side-by-side comparison > > > of two products, and if one of them underperforms, it just > > > underperforms. You cannot use a poor location selection > > > strategy in the driver as an excuse for poor operation. > > > > dd is a useful start, but you shouldn't read too much into the results > > since, in general, dd doesn't reflect real world usage patterns. > > Huh? Various people have reacted to the "dd doesn't reflect real > world" with "but I *do* use dd in real world". Read what I said.. "... IN GENERAL ..." =2D-=20 Daniel O'Connor software and network engineer for Genesis Software - http://www.gsoft.com.au "The nice thing about standards is that there are so many of them to choose from." -- Andrew Tanenbaum GPG Fingerprint - 5596 B766 97C0 0E94 4347 295E E593 DC20 7B3F CE8C --nextPart8116661.EzeYXz61JX Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.1 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQBCwTX45ZPcIHs/zowRAtioAKCTo1pK2gYMHrsUFM9dAhqswjAbYACfYxq1 vdsO133HpX49mgmRAxj8lNw= =It3f -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --nextPart8116661.EzeYXz61JX-- From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jun 28 12:47:09 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7E15B16A41C for ; Tue, 28 Jun 2005 12:47:09 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from michael.schuh@gmail.com) Received: from nproxy.gmail.com (nproxy.gmail.com [64.233.182.192]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 11CB043D53 for ; Tue, 28 Jun 2005 12:47:08 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from michael.schuh@gmail.com) Received: by nproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id g2so220024nfe for ; Tue, 28 Jun 2005 05:47:07 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=aF0ewJ4TrmLZM90twwgCWrDwUgN67DAslOTyjDPMvjf8790kgPc1DwYyiKtR8t8PYTIoBwM7sJs1L0UGUcas9yJEyP15WZVvMmC3Bpt6c82HkP8iJer0f9fDJntj9O19m5Ji8L+0PLLnUojaHZrK57/sf5IYUyNCiLY+335+KBw= Received: by 10.48.240.16 with SMTP id n16mr125694nfh; Tue, 28 Jun 2005 05:47:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.48.244.20 with HTTP; Tue, 28 Jun 2005 05:47:07 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <1dbad31505062805472d4c6e0a@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 28 Jun 2005 14:47:07 +0200 From: Michael Schuh To: Daniel O'Connor In-Reply-To: <200506282105.20586.doconnor@gsoft.com.au> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline References: <1dbad315050621051525f4c6fc@mail.gmail.com> <200506281904.48464.doconnor@gsoft.com.au> <20050628111332.GC48140@isis.sigpipe.cz> <200506282105.20586.doconnor@gsoft.com.au> Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org, Roman Neuhauser Subject: Re: FreeBSD MySQL still WAY slower than Linux X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Michael Schuh List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 28 Jun 2005 12:47:09 -0000 Hi, i wouldn't start a principal discussion, but i have too? I have one Machine! and on this machine with identical Hardware, identical real! not same not side by side, real the same disk, processor, ram, board...... --> read my other postings, it's recommendet..... on this machine i have made 4 installations on same disk, of 4 types/Versions of Os'es 1: RELENG_4 2: RELENG_5 3: Drangonfly_REL_1.2 4: GENTOO_2005_02 The disk was alway same partitioning: first 1G for Swap rest for system then i login in the system and made: # cd /; /usr/bin/time dd if=3D/dev/zero bs=3D1024 count=3D1024k of=3Dzerofi= le; rm zerofile then i install the next system from a dump on same disk.... so that i can compare the time-consumption on these 4 systems. i think dd ist not the best for performace-tests or something else, but dd is a handy tool for quick test what's going on with your system write/read-speedness. so other people have suggested me that dd was not everytime writes to the same parts of diske, while the underlying fs-drivers made other steps on other systems ( and other fs-types) I would only compare the performace from 2 Versions of FreeBSD, while i mean that the performance from RELENG_5 is more slower than under GENTOO and it is double as slow as under RELENG_4. i would not test the performance of my system, i would only compare..... best regards michael 2005/6/28, Daniel O'Connor : > On Tue, 28 Jun 2005 20:43, Roman Neuhauser wrote: > > # doconnor@gsoft.com.au / 2005-06-28 19:04:18 +0930: > > > On Tue, 28 Jun 2005 18:51, Roman Neuhauser wrote: > > > > No you don't. You want to make a side-by-side comparison > > > > of two products, and if one of them underperforms, it just > > > > underperforms. You cannot use a poor location selection > > > > strategy in the driver as an excuse for poor operation. > > > > > > dd is a useful start, but you shouldn't read too much into the result= s > > > since, in general, dd doesn't reflect real world usage patterns. > > > > Huh? Various people have reacted to the "dd doesn't reflect real > > world" with "but I *do* use dd in real world". >=20 > Read what I said.. >=20 > "... IN GENERAL ..." >=20 > -- > Daniel O'Connor software and network engineer > for Genesis Software - http://www.gsoft.com.au > "The nice thing about standards is that there > are so many of them to choose from." > -- Andrew Tanenbaum > GPG Fingerprint - 5596 B766 97C0 0E94 4347 295E E593 DC20 7B3F CE8C >=20 >=20 > From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jun 28 12:58:47 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: stable@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0D70616A41C for ; Tue, 28 Jun 2005 12:58:47 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from smckay@internode.on.net) Received: from ash25e.internode.on.net (ash25e.internode.on.net [203.16.214.182]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5D9A643D4C for ; Tue, 28 Jun 2005 12:58:46 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from smckay@internode.on.net) Received: from dungeon.home (ppp116-218.lns1.bne3.internode.on.net [59.167.116.218]) by ash25e.internode.on.net (8.12.9/8.12.6) with ESMTP id j5SCwhsl083973; Tue, 28 Jun 2005 22:28:44 +0930 (CST) (envelope-from smckay@internode.on.net) Received: from dungeon.home (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by dungeon.home (8.13.1/8.11.6) with ESMTP id j5SCw46l010235; Tue, 28 Jun 2005 22:58:04 +1000 (EST) (envelope-from mckay) Message-Id: <200506281258.j5SCw46l010235@dungeon.home> To: Peter Jeremy References: <200506241231.j5OCV6jp047730@dungeon.home> <20050624213433.GA50157@cirb503493.alcatel.com.au> In-Reply-To: <20050624213433.GA50157@cirb503493.alcatel.com.au> from Peter Jeremy at "Sat, 25 Jun 2005 07:34:33 +1000" Date: Tue, 28 Jun 2005 22:58:04 +1000 From: Stephen McKay Cc: stable@freebsd.org, Stephen McKay Subject: Re: Data corruption in cd9660 on FreeBSD 4.11? X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 28 Jun 2005 12:58:47 -0000 I haven't finished all the suggested tests, but since I'm taking so long to do so, I thought I should send what I have so far. On Saturday, 25th June 2005, Peter Jeremy wrote: >On Fri, 2005-Jun-24 22:31:06 +1000, Stephen McKay wrote: >>I'm experiencing data corruption when reading CDs and DVDs on FreeBSD 4.11. >... >>So, can anyone suggest any more tests I could try? Or is there a kind of >>hardware fault that could cause this substitution of whole blocks read from >>CDs without causing any other problems? > >You might like to post the relevant sections of a verbose boot - the >ATA and CD probes. I've appended it to this messages, so that the flow is not ruined. Note that I am not currently using ATAPI-CAM for my tests. I am using /dev/acd0a and /dev/acd1a to mount the CDs in the DVD-ROM and DVD-R respectively. Also the "non-ATA66 cable" thing is true; it is a plain ATA33 cable. >Are you running the CD/DVD drives in PIO or UDMA modes? I normally run both DVD drives at UDMA33. My test runs normally fail every 2nd or 3rd run. I've seen it do 5 OK runs in a row once though, so I don't yet have a very good test. I tested with PIO4 and ran 12 consecutive test runs without error. It was a little slower at 150 seconds per run instead of the normal 135, possibly because 75% to 80% of the cpu was dedicated to interrupt handling (doing pio, I assume). It seems that either DMA or ATA interrupts (or maybe both) are required to cause the problem. Also, I tried some tests with the noclusterr mount option on the CD. The test ran much slower (approx 232 seconds instead of 135) but I also saw no failures (with only 6 test runs though as I was pressed for time). The noclusterr option is interesting because it defeats read clustering resulting in the ATA driver issuing only 2K reads instead of up to 64K at a time. I assume that the 64K reads would require scatter-gather DMA, so maybe this is relevant to the problem. Oddly, I noticed that a fixed value of 65534 is found in atapi-all.c as a request size limit. No, not 65536 = 2^16, but 2 bytes less. Puzzling. >Have you tried anything other than ISO9660 filesystems on a physical CD? I have not tried anything but cd9660 file systems on CDs and DVDs. I will see if I can build a UFS file system to test with, when I get a chance. >What happens if you just dd the CD-ROM? When I dd the CD-ROM it seems to work correctly. I have done this only infrequently however, so I may just be lucky to not have had a failure. I've now done 6 consecutive dd reads of my test CD-ROM in UDMA33 mode with no errors. It only takes 125 seconds, so it's a bit faster than comparing directory trees. Only 6 tests isn't many, so I'll do more later, this time with other system activity. >What happens if you use a vnode >mount (see vnconfig(8)) of an ISO filesystem sitting in a UFS filesystem? I'll test this when I get a chance. >Anything unusual in your kernel config file? Nothing too unusual. I'm running a uni-processor kernel with HTT disabled. I skimmed through my config and this is the only interesting thing: HZ=500 I don't think that's too dangerous. On the other hand, it does increase the rate of interrupts, and if there's a race somewhere, it may make it worse. >Have you tried building a kernel with WITNESS and/or DIAGNOSTIC? I'm now running with INVARIANTS, INVARIANT_SUPPORT, and DIAGNOSTIC on 4.11. No change in the failure rate and no significant slowdown either. >Any chance of you repeating the tests with a 5.x system? Maybe >on a spare small partition or using a 5.4-RELEASE disk1 as a live >filesystem. I was experimenting with current in late April, so I installed that drive for testing. So far, I have not been able to reproduce the failure on April's current though I've only had time for a quick run of 6 repetitions. Current takes the same time (135 seconds, on average) to read and compare the CD. That seems good, considering all the debugging is still enabled. I'm pretty sure that ATA MK III is in this kernel. Sadly, it panics immediately if I run "atacontrol mode 1" so I'm just assuming it is running in DMA mode by the speed of it. (And I have hw.ata.atapi_dma=1 in /boot/loader.conf). That's where I'm up to so far in stress testing. Right now I'm trying to understand some unusual looking code in ata_dmasetupd_cb() in 4.11's ata-dma.c. The attached comment is "A maximum segment size was specified for bus_dma_tag_create, but some busdma code does not seem to honor this, so fix up if needed." The "fix-up" code seems to be gone in current, so it looks suspicious to me. When I work out what it does, I'll report back. Stephen. ------------------------------------------------------------------ Verbose boot of 4.11-p10 (the ata related parts, at least): atapci0: port 0xfc00-0xfc0f,0-0x3,0-0x7,0-0x3,0-0x7 irq 0 at device 31.1 on pci0 ata0: iobase=0x01f0 altiobase=0x03f6 bmaddr=0xfc00 ata0: mask=03 ostat0=50 ostat2=00 ata0-master: ATAPI 00 00 ata0-slave: ATAPI 00 00 ata0: mask=03 stat0=50 stat1=00 ata0-master: ATA 01 a5 ata0: devices=01 ata0: at 0x1f0 irq 14 on atapci0 ata1: iobase=0x0170 altiobase=0x0376 bmaddr=0xfc08 ata1: mask=03 ostat0=50 ostat2=50 ata1-slave: ATAPI 14 eb ata1-master: ATAPI 14 eb ata1: mask=03 stat0=00 stat1=00 ata1: devices=0c ata1: at 0x170 irq 15 on atapci0 pci0: (vendor=0x8086, dev=0x24d3) at 31.3 irq 10 ata-: ata0 exists, using next available unit number ata-: ata1 exists, using next available unit number Trying Read_Port at 203 Trying Read_Port at 243 Trying Read_Port at 283 Trying Read_Port at 2c3 Trying Read_Port at 303 Trying Read_Port at 343 Trying Read_Port at 383 Trying Read_Port at 3c3 isa_probe_children: disabling PnP devices isa_probe_children: probing non-PnP devices orm0: