From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Sun May 14 00:07:46 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DB7BA16A404 for ; Sun, 14 May 2006 00:07:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from madkiss@madkiss.org) Received: from hobbit.neveragain.de (hobbit.neveragain.de [217.69.77.34]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 62D1543D46 for ; Sun, 14 May 2006 00:07:44 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from madkiss@madkiss.org) Received: from postfix.madkiss.org (p508A5EDE.dip.t-dialin.net [80.138.94.222]) (authenticated bits=0) by hobbit.neveragain.de (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id k4E07wKp072382 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-DSS-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Sun, 14 May 2006 02:07:59 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from madkiss@madkiss.org) Received: by postfix.madkiss.org (Postfix, from userid 501) id 4C72716FB39; Sun, 14 May 2006 02:07:40 +0200 (CEST) Date: Sun, 14 May 2006 02:07:39 +0200 From: Martin Loschwitz To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20060514000739.GA2456@martin-loschwitzs-computer.local> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="jRHKVT23PllUwdXP" Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.11 X-Greylist: Sender succeeded SMTP AUTH authentication, not delayed by milter-greylist-2.0.2 (hobbit.neveragain.de [217.69.77.34]); Sun, 14 May 2006 02:07:59 +0200 (CEST) Subject: Problems getting my pcmcia-card to work X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 14 May 2006 00:08:17 -0000 --jRHKVT23PllUwdXP Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi all, I am desperately trying to get my pccard to work together with Free= BSD 6.1. With all debug mechanisms enabled, this is what I see in the dmesg: cbb0: irq 23 at device 11.0 on pci2 pcib2: cbb0 requested memory range 0xeb000000-0xed7fffff: good cbb0: Lazy allocation of 0x1000 bytes rid 0x10 type 3 at 0xeb001000 cbb0: Found memory at eb001000 cbb0: Secondary bus is 0 cbb0: Setting primary bus to 2 cbb0: Secondary bus set to 3 subbus 4 cardbus0: on cbb0 pccard0: <16-bit PCCard bus> on cbb0 ioapic0: routing intpin 23 (PCI IRQ 23) to vector 50 cbb0: [MPSAFE] cbb0: PCI Configuration space: 0x00: 0x04751180 0x02100007 0x06070081 0x00022000=20 0x10: 0xeb001000 0x020000dc 0x20040302 0xfffff000=20 0x20: 0x00000000 0xfffff000 0x00000000 0xfffffffc=20 0x30: 0x00000000 0xfffffffc 0x00000000 0x07000117=20 0x40: 0x00000000 0x00000001 0x00000000 0x00000000=20 0x50: 0x00000000 0x00000000 0x00000000 0x00000000=20 0x60: 0x00000000 0x00000000 0x00000000 0x00000000=20 0x70: 0x00000000 0x00000000 0x00000000 0x00000000=20 0x80: 0x00000001 0x00000000 0x04630463 0x00000000=20 0x90: 0x00000000 0x00000000 0x00000000 0x00000000=20 0xa0: 0x00000000 0x00000000 0x00000000 0x00000000=20 0xb0: 0x00000000 0x00000000 0x00000000 0x00000000=20 0xc0: 0x00000000 0x00000000 0x00000000 0x00000000=20 0xd0: 0x00000000 0x00000000 0x00000000 0xfe0a0001=20 0xe0: 0x24c04000 0x00000000 0x00000000 0x00000000=20 0xf0: 0x00000000 0x00000000 0x00000000 0x00000000=20 =2E.. Status is 0x30000410 cbb0: card inserted: event=3D0x00000000, state=3D30000410 pccard0: chip_socket_enable cbb_pcic_socket_enable: cbb0: cbb_power: 5V pccard0: read_cis pcib2: pccard0 requested memory range 0xeb000000-0xed7fffff: good cis mem map 0xe52a7000 (resource: 0xeb010000) pccard0: CIS tuple chain: CISTPL_END ff cis mem map e52a7000 CISTPL_LINKTARGET expected, code ff observed pccard0: check_cis_quirks pccard0: Card has no functions! cbb0: PC Card card activation failed There are all the information dmesg hands me out ... somebody please, please help me as I am completely lost on this issue ... --=20 .''`. Martin Loschwitz Debian GNU/Linux developer : :' : madkiss@madkiss.org madkiss@debian.org `. `'` http://www.madkiss.org/ people.debian.org/~madkiss/ `- Use Debian GNU/Linux 3.1! See http://www.debian.org/ --jRHKVT23PllUwdXP Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.2 (Darwin) iD8DBQFEZnTLHPo+jNcUXjARAsYtAJ9qETqOdDZVwSRxeXX/HRB0N/D2UACdFQ3T g0gV5oFEXA/U51fxCI3SiSU= =QI9Q -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --jRHKVT23PllUwdXP-- From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Sun May 14 09:52:43 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2ACB616A402 for ; Sun, 14 May 2006 09:52:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sebster@sebster.com) Received: from smtp.profdata.nl (server.profdata.nl [213.196.2.244]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 5CD0C43D45 for ; Sun, 14 May 2006 09:52:41 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from sebster@sebster.com) Received: (qmail 90532 invoked from network); 14 May 2006 09:52:40 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?10.0.0.6?) (80.126.244.3) by server.profdata.nl with SMTP; 14 May 2006 09:52:40 -0000 Message-ID: <4466FDE7.5000800@sebster.com> Date: Sun, 14 May 2006 11:52:39 +0200 From: Sebastiaan van Erk User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5 (X11/20060118) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Xorg at 1920x1600 using vesa driver? X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 14 May 2006 09:52:43 -0000 Hi all, I just got a Dell E1705 (Inspiron 9400) which has an unsupported ATI RADEON MOBILITY X1400 graphics card. Personally I'm not really interested in all kinds of hardware acceleration etc., the only thing that matters to me is that I can use the 1920x1600 resolution. In my Xorg.0.log the vesa driver says: (II) VESA(0): Supported additional Video Mode: (II) VESA(0): clock: 162.0 MHz Image Size: 367 x 230 mm (II) VESA(0): h_active: 1920 h_sync: 1968 h_sync_end 2000 h_blank_end 2160 h_border: 0 (II) VESA(0): v_active: 1200 v_sync: 1201 v_sync_end 1204 v_blanking: 1250 v_border: 0 and a bit later: (II) VESA(0): Total Memory: 256 64KB banks (16384kB) (II) VESA(0): Monitor0: Using default hsync value of 75.00 kHz (II) VESA(0): Monitor0: Using default vrefresh value of 60.00 Hz (II) VESA(0): Not using mode "1920x1200" (no mode of this name) (--) VESA(0): Virtual size is 1600x1200 (pitch 1600) I tried playing around with the hsync and vrefresh values, and added a ModeLine for the 1920x1200 in the Monitor, e.g.: HorizSync 31.5-128.5 VertRefresh 40-150 ModeLine "1920x1200" 400 1920 1968 2000 2160 1200 1201 1204 1250 However, the message that there is no mode of the name "1920x1200" keeps appearing and it keeps using 1600x1200. Does anybody know if it is possible to get this mode working with the vesa driver and how to go about it? Thanks in advance! Sebastiaan From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Sun May 14 10:35:00 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 595D616A415 for ; Sun, 14 May 2006 10:35:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gp.ioa@cbs.dk) Received: from mx02.stofanet.dk (mx02.stofanet.dk [212.10.10.12]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E5D5743D6D for ; Sun, 14 May 2006 10:34:55 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from gp.ioa@cbs.dk) Received: from d40adc19.rev.stofanet.dk ([212.10.220.25] helo=[192.168.0.47]) by mx02.stofanet.dk (envelope-from ) with esmtp id 1FfDw5-00046Y-0j; Sun, 14 May 2006 12:34:53 +0200 Message-ID: <446707D5.2080007@cbs.dk> Date: Sun, 14 May 2006 12:35:01 +0200 From: Gregers Petersen User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5 (X11/20060127) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Sebastiaan van Erk , freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org References: <4466FDE7.5000800@sebster.com> In-Reply-To: <4466FDE7.5000800@sebster.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Subject: Re: Xorg at 1920x1600 using vesa driver? X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 14 May 2006 10:35:00 -0000 Sebastiaan van Erk wrote: > However, the message that there is no mode of the name "1920x1200" keeps > appearing and it keeps using 1600x1200. > Does anybody know if it is possible to get this mode working with the > vesa driver and how to go about it? > There is an option in the x.org.conf file where you can 'force' a mode, in the device section: Option "panelsize" "your-size" Perhaps this will work ? -- Gregers Petersen From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Sun May 14 12:31:28 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CFEF916A41A for ; Sun, 14 May 2006 12:31:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sebster@sebster.com) Received: from smtp.profdata.nl (server.profdata.nl [213.196.2.244]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 1285843D48 for ; Sun, 14 May 2006 12:31:27 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from sebster@sebster.com) Received: (qmail 243 invoked from network); 14 May 2006 12:31:26 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?10.0.0.6?) (80.126.244.3) by server.profdata.nl with SMTP; 14 May 2006 12:31:26 -0000 Message-ID: <4467231E.3040106@sebster.com> Date: Sun, 14 May 2006 14:31:26 +0200 From: Sebastiaan van Erk User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5 (X11/20060118) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Gregers Petersen References: <4466FDE7.5000800@sebster.com> <446707D5.2080007@cbs.dk> In-Reply-To: <446707D5.2080007@cbs.dk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Xorg at 1920x1600 using vesa driver? X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 14 May 2006 12:31:28 -0000 Hi, Thanks for you suggestion. Unfortunately the VESA driver ignores this option: (WW) VESA(0): Option "PanelSize" is not used Regards, Sebastiaan Gregers Petersen wrote: > Sebastiaan van Erk wrote: > >> However, the message that there is no mode of the name "1920x1200" >> keeps appearing and it keeps using 1600x1200. >> Does anybody know if it is possible to get this mode working with the >> vesa driver and how to go about it? >> > There is an option in the x.org.conf file where you can 'force' a > mode, in the device section: > > Option "panelsize" "your-size" > > Perhaps this will work ? > From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Sun May 14 14:31:31 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6B5CD16A407 for ; Sun, 14 May 2006 14:31:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from james@netinertia.co.uk) Received: from starbug.netinertia.co.uk (starbug.netinertia.co.uk [217.147.82.211]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0A4F343D49 for ; Sun, 14 May 2006 14:31:30 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from james@netinertia.co.uk) Received: from croydon.netinertia.co.uk ([82.69.247.45] helo=[10.1.0.82]) by starbug.netinertia.co.uk with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.60 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1FfHeZ-000Pr5-Lk for freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org; Sun, 14 May 2006 15:33:05 +0100 Message-ID: <44673F12.1020003@netinertia.co.uk> Date: Sun, 14 May 2006 15:30:42 +0100 From: James O'Gorman User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.2 (Windows/20060308) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: FreeBSD Mobile List References: <4460DC22.6060803@netinertia.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <4460DC22.6060803@netinertia.co.uk> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.94.0.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-NetI-Spam-Score: 0.4 (/) Subject: Re: FreeBSD 6.1 on the ThinkPad X60s X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 14 May 2006 14:31:31 -0000 Thought I'd give a quick update on the wireless situation. James O'Gorman wrote: > Wireless does not, of course, work, as it's the Intel 3945ABG chip. > Can't even get it working using if_ndis at the moment :-( Been playing around with the ndisulator, and have at least managed to get it to recognise an ndis0 device now, but still can't use it properly. I used the ndisgen(8) script to create the .ko - it only seems to work properly when you link in w39ncpa.dll as a firmware file (what that file actually is I have no idea!). When I kldload ndis and then w39n51_sys, I get the following on the console: no match for NdisIMCopySendPerPacketInfo no match for strncat no match for KeQueryTickCount ndis0: mem 0xedf00000-0xedf00fff irq 17 at device 0:0 on pci3 ndis0: NDIS API version: 5.1 ntoskrnl dummy called... That last "ntoskrnl dummy called..." repeats about a dozen times, followed by: ndis0: Ehternet address: [my MAC address] ntoskrnl dummy called... (another dozen times) ndis0: NDIS ERROR: c0001389 (unknown error) ntoskrnl dummy called... (again, another dozen) ndis0: NDIS ERROR: c0001389 (unknown error) I created an /etc/wpa_supplicant.conf containing: ctrl_interface=/var/run/wpa_supplicant ctrl_interface_group=wheel network={ ssid="myssid" scan_ssid=1 proto=WPA key_mgmt=WPA-PSK psk="mysecretkey" group=TKIP pairwise=TKIP } (which may or may not be correct, I'm not sure) Apparently I have to kldload wlan_xauth before I can do much with ifconfig ndis0 (like set authmode to wpa). When I run /etc/rc.d/netif start, I get: Starting wpa_supplicant. Failed to initialize driver interface DHCPDISCOVER on ndis0 to 255.255.255.255 port 67 interval 3 send_packet: Network is down (I have to ^C that as dhclient keeps retrying) ifconfig then prints out all interfaces and ndis0 still doesn't work... Ultimately when I try and kldunload all the wlan and ndis stuff, the system crashes. Maybe I should forward this on to -net@ to see if anyone has any idea? James From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Sun May 14 15:39:33 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4B59216A4DD for ; Sun, 14 May 2006 15:39:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ume@mahoroba.org) Received: from ameno.mahoroba.org (gw4.mahoroba.org [218.45.22.175]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D21A343D67 for ; Sun, 14 May 2006 15:39:23 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ume@mahoroba.org) Received: from kasuga.mahoroba.org (IDENT:JRocEDeemB9XPNjLJLY7UEknMOhPGOMKBdLJ6sPqFwPznaEK6DMqoay2drZo6/Kb@kasuga-iwi.mahoroba.org [IPv6:3ffe:501:185b:8010:212:f0ff:fe52:6ac]) (user=ume mech=CRAM-MD5 bits=0) by ameno.mahoroba.org (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP/inet6 id k4EFcsp1088196 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Mon, 15 May 2006 00:38:58 +0900 (JST) (envelope-from ume@mahoroba.org) Date: Mon, 15 May 2006 00:38:54 +0900 Message-ID: From: Hajimu UMEMOTO To: "Kevin Oberman" In-Reply-To: <20060511161457.0F61145042@ptavv.es.net> References: <200605111637.40473.doconnor@gsoft.com.au> <20060511161457.0F61145042@ptavv.es.net> User-Agent: xcite1.38> Wanderlust/2.14.0 (Africa) SEMI/1.14.6 (Maruoka) FLIM/1.14.8 (=?ISO-8859-4?Q?Shij=F2?=) APEL/10.6 Emacs/22.0.50 (i386--freebsd) MULE/5.0 (SAKAKI) X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 6.1-STABLE X-PGP-Key: http://www.imasy.or.jp/~ume/publickey.asc X-PGP-Fingerprint: 1F00 0B9E 2164 70FC 6DC5 BF5F 04E9 F086 BF90 71FE Organization: Internet Mutual Aid Society, YOKOHAMA MIME-Version: 1.0 (generated by SEMI 1.14.6 - "Maruoka") Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="Multipart_Mon_May_15_00:38:53_2006-1" X-Greylist: Sender succeeded SMTP AUTH authentication, not delayed by milter-greylist-2.1.5 (ameno.mahoroba.org [IPv6:3ffe:501:185b:8010::1]); Mon, 15 May 2006 00:39:03 +0900 (JST) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.6 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=3.1.1 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.1 (2006-03-10) on ameno.mahoroba.org Cc: Daniel O'Connor , freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org, ktsin@acm.org, Yann Golanski Subject: Re: Ath0, netgear WG311T problem. [SOLVED] X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 14 May 2006 15:39:37 -0000 --Multipart_Mon_May_15_00:38:53_2006-1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Hi, >>>>> On Thu, 11 May 2006 09:14:57 -0700 >>>>> "Kevin Oberman" said: > > monitoring software to give me signal strength and things like that. > > Any recommendations on either? > > ifconfig ath0 scan? :) > I see there is a gkrellm plugin in ports but I've never used it. oberman> The gkrellm plugin only works for a few devices at this time and ath is oberman> not one of them. It works for my old Prism 2.5 card, but not my new oberman> Atheros. :-{ oberman> Maybe an interface to the 802.11 layer would make this plugin work for oberman> all modern wireless cards. I really prefer gkrellm to the standard Gnome oberman> monitoring tools. oberman> Looks like Hajimu UMEMOTO has done much of the FreeBSD work on this oberman> plugin. I cc'd him on this, but I have no idea if he has time or oberman> interest. Are you mean grekkmwireless2? If so, please try the attached patch. If okay, I'll send it to the author. Sincerely, --Multipart_Mon_May_15_00:38:53_2006-1 Content-Type: text/x-patch; charset=US-ASCII Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="patch-scan" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Index: wireless.c diff -u wireless.c.orig wireless.c --- wireless.c.orig Sat Dec 6 22:19:55 2003 +++ wireless.c Mon May 15 00:18:15 2006 @@ -94,6 +94,37 @@ #if defined(__FreeBSD__) || defined(__NetBSD__) /* FreeBSD & NetBSD specific */ +#if defined(__FreeBSD__) && __FreeBSD_version >= 600034 +static gint +find_scan_card(void) { + gint ret = FALSE; + struct ifaddrs *res = NULL, *ifa = NULL; + struct ifmediareq ifmr; + int s; + + if (getifaddrs(&res) != 0) + return ret; + if ((s = socket(PF_INET, SOCK_DGRAM, 0)) < 0) { + freeifaddrs(res); + return ret; + } + for (ifa = res; ifa; ifa = ifa->ifa_next) { + memset(&ifmr, 0, sizeof(ifmr)); + strncpy(ifmr.ifm_name, ifa->ifa_name, sizeof(ifmr.ifm_name)); + if (ioctl(s, SIOCGIFMEDIA, (caddr_t)&ifmr) < 0) + continue; + if (!(ifmr.ifm_status & IFM_AVALID)) + continue; + if (IFM_TYPE(ifmr.ifm_active) != IFM_IEEE80211) + continue; + if (found_wcard(ifa->ifa_name) != NULL) + ret = TRUE; + } + close(s); + freeifaddrs(res); + return ret; +} +#else static int find_wi_card(void) { /* possible interfaces */ @@ -162,18 +193,55 @@ return ret; } #endif /* !defined(__NetBSD__) */ +#endif /* defined(__FreeBSD__) && __FreeBSD_version >= 600034 */ static gint find_wlancard(void) { gint ret = FALSE; - + +#if defined(__FreeBSD__) && __FreeBSD_version >= 600034 + ret = find_scan_card(); +#else ret = find_wi_card(); #if !defined(__NetBSD__) ret = find_an_card() || ret; #endif /* !defined(__NetBSD__) */ +#endif /* defined(__FreeBSD__) && __FreeBSD_version >= 600034 */ return ret; } +#if defined(__FreeBSD__) && __FreeBSD_version >= 600034 +static int +get_scan_link_quality(wcard_t *card, float *quality, float *level, float *noise) { + int s; + uint8_t buf[24 * 1024]; + struct ieee80211req ireq; + struct ieee80211req_scan_result *sr; + + /* open a socket for ioctl's */ + if ((s = socket(AF_INET, SOCK_DGRAM, 0)) == -1) return FALSE; + + memset(&ireq, 0, sizeof(ireq)); + strncpy(ireq.i_name, card->ifname, sizeof(ireq.i_name)); + ireq.i_type = IEEE80211_IOC_SCAN_RESULTS; + ireq.i_data = buf; + ireq.i_len = sizeof(buf); + if (ioctl(s, SIOCG80211, &ireq) < 0) { + close(s); + return FALSE; + } + close(s); + if (ireq.i_len < sizeof(struct ieee80211req_scan_result)) + return FALSE; + + sr = (struct ieee80211req_scan_result *) buf; + *quality = sr->isr_intval; + *level = sr->isr_rssi; + *noise = sr->isr_noise; + return TRUE; +} +#endif /* defined(__FreeBSD__) && __FreeBSD_version >= 600034 */ + static int get_wi_link_quality(wcard_t *card, float *quality, float *level, float *noise) { /* wireless info request struct */ @@ -257,6 +325,13 @@ static int get_link_quality(wcard_t *card, float *quality, float *level, float *noise) { +#if defined(__FreeBSD__) && __FreeBSD_version >= 600034 + if (strncmp(card->ifname, "an", 2) == 0 && isnumber(card->ifname[2])) + return get_an_link_quality(card,quality,level,noise); + else if (strncmp(card->ifname, "wi", 2) == 0 && isnumber(card->ifname[2])) + return get_wi_link_quality(card,quality,level,noise); + return get_scan_link_quality(card,quality,level,noise); +#else switch (card->ifname[0]) { #if !defined(__NetBSD__) case 'a': /* an card */ @@ -266,6 +341,7 @@ return get_wi_link_quality(card,quality,level,noise); } return FALSE; +#endif } static int Index: wireless.h diff -u wireless.h.orig wireless.h --- wireless.h.orig Sat Dec 6 22:19:55 2003 +++ wireless.h Sun May 14 23:45:09 2006 @@ -24,6 +24,11 @@ #include #include #include +#if __FreeBSD_version >= 600034 + #include + #include + #include +#endif #if __FreeBSD_version >= 470000 #include #else --Multipart_Mon_May_15_00:38:53_2006-1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII -- Hajimu UMEMOTO @ Internet Mutual Aid Society Yokohama, Japan ume@mahoroba.org ume@{,jp.}FreeBSD.org http://www.imasy.org/~ume/ --Multipart_Mon_May_15_00:38:53_2006-1-- From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Sun May 14 17:13:06 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BCB3116A405 for ; Sun, 14 May 2006 17:13:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-listen@fabiankeil.de) Received: from smtprelay01.ispgateway.de (smtprelay01.ispgateway.de [80.67.18.13]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9CCEC43D46 for ; Sun, 14 May 2006 17:13:05 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from freebsd-listen@fabiankeil.de) Received: (qmail 4978 invoked from network); 14 May 2006 17:13:04 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO localhost) ([pbs]775067@[217.50.149.14]) (envelope-sender ) by smtprelay01.ispgateway.de (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for ; 14 May 2006 17:13:04 -0000 Date: Sun, 14 May 2006 19:12:43 +0200 From: Fabian Keil To: Hajimu UMEMOTO Message-ID: <20060514191244.1e36b507@localhost> In-Reply-To: References: <200605111637.40473.doconnor@gsoft.com.au> <20060511161457.0F61145042@ptavv.es.net> X-Mailer: Sylpheed-Claws 2.1.1 (GTK+ 2.8.17; i386-portbld-freebsd6.1) X-PGP-KEY-URL: http://www.fabiankeil.de/gpg-keys/freebsd-listen-2006-08-19.asc Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary=Sig_sQNqVDIO0HCmtm2Z9f0o_oD; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=PGP-SHA1 Cc: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Ath0, netgear WG311T problem. [SOLVED] X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 14 May 2006 17:13:06 -0000 --Sig_sQNqVDIO0HCmtm2Z9f0o_oD Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hajimu UMEMOTO wrote: > >>>>> On Thu, 11 May 2006 09:14:57 -0700 > >>>>> "Kevin Oberman" said: > oberman> The gkrellm plugin only works for a few devices at this time and= ath is > oberman> not one of them. It works for my old Prism 2.5 card, but not my = new > oberman> Atheros. :-{ >=20 > oberman> Maybe an interface to the 802.11 layer would make this plugin wo= rk for > oberman> all modern wireless cards. I really prefer gkrellm to the standa= rd Gnome > oberman> monitoring tools. >=20 > oberman> Looks like Hajimu UMEMOTO has done much of the FreeBSD work on t= his > oberman> plugin. I cc'd him on this, but I have no idea if he has time or > oberman> interest. >=20 > Are you mean grekkmwireless2? If so, please try the attached patch. > If okay, I'll send it to the author. I'm not Kevin, but I like your patch anyway. I tested it with iwiNG, works fine. Thanks. Fabian --=20 http://www.fabiankeil.de/ --Sig_sQNqVDIO0HCmtm2Z9f0o_oD Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Disposition: attachment; filename=signature.asc -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.3 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFEZ2UcjV8GA4rMKUQRAn44AKCKVAP/+jh8reuFwi9dn6szQSOjeQCdEewY JHZVVPlGYW+Qln477a0qNrA= =Z0ak -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Sig_sQNqVDIO0HCmtm2Z9f0o_oD-- From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Sun May 14 18:09:48 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AEFCA16A446 for ; Sun, 14 May 2006 18:09:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from hafreflokken@hotmail.com) Received: from hotmail.com (bay19-f21.bay19.hotmail.com [64.4.53.71]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CBDF943D46 for ; Sun, 14 May 2006 18:09:47 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from hafreflokken@hotmail.com) Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Sun, 14 May 2006 11:09:47 -0700 Message-ID: Received: from 4.79.37.11 by by19fd.bay19.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Sun, 14 May 2006 18:09:46 GMT X-Originating-IP: [217.116.235.34] X-Originating-Email: [hafreflokken@hotmail.com] X-Sender: hafreflokken@hotmail.com In-Reply-To: From: "martin honore" To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Date: Sun, 14 May 2006 18:09:46 +0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed X-OriginalArrivalTime: 14 May 2006 18:09:47.0466 (UTC) FILETIME=[95D182A0:01C67781] Subject: Patch for i915 driver - FreeBSD 6.1-RELEASE with i855GME graphic-card X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 14 May 2006 18:09:49 -0000 I have tried with this patch: http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-bugs/2006-April/017938.html , but it does not work, so I am not sure, it is the right one. Do you know, where I can find the correct patch? -- %dmesg | grep drm drmsub0: port 0xec00-0xec07 mem 0xd8000000-0xdfffffff,0xe0380000-0xe03fffff irq 16 at device 2.0 on pci0 error: [drm:pid0:drm_load] *ERROR* Card isn't AGP, or couldn't initialize AGP. device_attach: drmsub0 attach returned 12 drmsub1: mem 0xd0000000-0xd7ffffff,0xe0300000-0xe037ffff at device 2.1 on pci0 error: [drm:pid0:drm_load] *ERROR* Card isn't AGP, or couldn't initialize AGP. device_attach: drmsub1 attach returned 12 %dmesg | grep agp agp0: port 0xec00-0xec07 mem 0xd8000000-0xdfffffff,0xe0380000-0xe03fffff irq 16 at device 2.0 on pci0 agp0: detected 16252k stolen memory agp0: aperture size is 128M Sincerely yours, Herr Martin Honore. _________________________________________________________________ Find din nye bil billigst http://biler.msn.dk/ From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Mon May 15 01:04:00 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 39B3616A400 for ; Mon, 15 May 2006 01:04:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from anderson@centtech.com) Received: from mh1.centtech.com (moat3.centtech.com [207.200.51.50]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D63B343D49 for ; Mon, 15 May 2006 01:03:59 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from anderson@centtech.com) Received: from [192.168.42.21] (andersonbox1.centtech.com [192.168.42.21]) by mh1.centtech.com (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id k4F13no7054816; Sun, 14 May 2006 20:03:50 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from anderson@centtech.com) Message-ID: <4467D377.6050106@centtech.com> Date: Sun, 14 May 2006 20:03:51 -0500 From: Eric Anderson User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.2 (X11/20060506) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Sebastiaan van Erk References: <4466FDE7.5000800@sebster.com> <446707D5.2080007@cbs.dk> <4467231E.3040106@sebster.com> In-Reply-To: <4467231E.3040106@sebster.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV 0.87.1/1462/Sun May 14 13:24:29 2006 on mh1.centtech.com X-Virus-Status: Clean Cc: Gregers Petersen , freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Xorg at 1920x1600 using vesa driver? X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 15 May 2006 01:04:00 -0000 Sebastiaan van Erk wrote: > Hi, > > Thanks for you suggestion. Unfortunately the VESA driver ignores this > option: > > (WW) VESA(0): Option "PanelSize" is not used > > Regards, > Sebastiaan > > Gregers Petersen wrote: >> Sebastiaan van Erk wrote: >> >>> However, the message that there is no mode of the name "1920x1200" >>> keeps appearing and it keeps using 1600x1200. >>> Does anybody know if it is possible to get this mode working with the >>> vesa driver and how to go about it? >>> >> There is an option in the x.org.conf file where you can 'force' a >> mode, in the device section: >> >> Option "panelsize" "your-size" >> >> Perhaps this will work ? That laptop's highest resolution for the best LCD you can get on it is truly 1920x1200, WUXGA as Dell's website reports. Eric -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Eric Anderson Sr. Systems Administrator Centaur Technology Anything that works is better than anything that doesn't. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Mon May 15 02:37:12 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5C81B16A4CA; Mon, 15 May 2006 02:37:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from oberman@es.net) Received: from postal1.es.net (postal1.es.net [198.128.3.205]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0F7E943D53; Mon, 15 May 2006 02:37:00 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from oberman@es.net) Received: from ptavv.es.net ([198.128.4.29]) by postal1.es.net (Postal Node 1) with ESMTP (SSL) id IBA74465; Sun, 14 May 2006 19:36:54 -0700 Received: from ptavv.es.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ptavv.es.net (Tachyon Server) with ESMTP id 6F0E845042; Sun, 14 May 2006 19:36:54 -0700 (PDT) To: Hajimu UMEMOTO In-reply-to: Your message of "Mon, 15 May 2006 00:38:54 +0900." Date: Sun, 14 May 2006 19:36:54 -0700 From: "Kevin Oberman" Message-Id: <20060515023654.6F0E845042@ptavv.es.net> Cc: Daniel O'Connor , freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org, ktsin@acm.org, Yann Golanski Subject: Re: Ath0, netgear WG311T problem. [SOLVED] X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 15 May 2006 02:37:12 -0000 > Date: Mon, 15 May 2006 00:38:54 +0900 > From: Hajimu UMEMOTO > > --Multipart_Mon_May_15_00:38:53_2006-1 > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII > > Hi, > > >>>>> On Thu, 11 May 2006 09:14:57 -0700 > >>>>> "Kevin Oberman" said: > > > > monitoring software to give me signal strength and things like that. > > > Any recommendations on either? > > > > ifconfig ath0 scan? :) > > I see there is a gkrellm plugin in ports but I've never used it. > > oberman> The gkrellm plugin only works for a few devices at this time and ath is > oberman> not one of them. It works for my old Prism 2.5 card, but not my new > oberman> Atheros. :-{ > > oberman> Maybe an interface to the 802.11 layer would make this plugin work for > oberman> all modern wireless cards. I really prefer gkrellm to the standard Gnome > oberman> monitoring tools. > > oberman> Looks like Hajimu UMEMOTO has done much of the FreeBSD work on this > oberman> plugin. I cc'd him on this, but I have no idea if he has time or > oberman> interest. > > Are you mean grekkmwireless2? If so, please try the attached patch. > If okay, I'll send it to the author. > Thanks! that was very fast. It seems to work fine. My card seems to only report signal level and not link quality or noise. Still, it's better than what I had yesterday and I believe that it will report whatever is available to report for any 802.11 device. My Atheros seems to only provide signal quality. Thank again! I suggest sending to Sjoerd to get it into the plugin. -- R. Kevin Oberman, Network Engineer Energy Sciences Network (ESnet) Ernest O. Lawrence Berkeley National Laboratory (Berkeley Lab) E-mail: oberman@es.net Phone: +1 510 486-8634 From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Mon May 15 05:16:09 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F0AB516A40F for ; Mon, 15 May 2006 05:16:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ume@mahoroba.org) Received: from ameno.mahoroba.org (gw4.mahoroba.org [218.45.22.175]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4392743D64 for ; Mon, 15 May 2006 05:15:59 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ume@mahoroba.org) Received: from localhost (IDENT:+gh5m83377ues+d98chENyCZCjyxBscFDW/FJ38LKltFt7xFTcw3OzLngbGvzN3Z@localhost [IPv6:::1]) (user=ume mech=CRAM-MD5 bits=0) by ameno.mahoroba.org (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP/inet6 id k4F5FVGs044869 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Mon, 15 May 2006 14:15:31 +0900 (JST) (envelope-from ume@mahoroba.org) Date: Mon, 15 May 2006 14:15:31 +0900 Message-ID: From: Hajimu UMEMOTO To: "Kevin Oberman" In-Reply-To: <20060515023654.6F0E845042@ptavv.es.net> References: <20060515023654.6F0E845042@ptavv.es.net> User-Agent: xcite1.38> Wanderlust/2.14.0 (Africa) SEMI/1.14.6 (Maruoka) FLIM/1.14.8 (=?ISO-8859-4?Q?Shij=F2?=) APEL/10.6 Emacs/22.0.50 (i386-unknown-freebsd5.5) MULE/5.0 (SAKAKI) X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 5.5-PRERELEASE X-PGP-Key: http://www.imasy.or.jp/~ume/publickey.asc X-PGP-Fingerprint: 1F00 0B9E 2164 70FC 6DC5 BF5F 04E9 F086 BF90 71FE Organization: Internet Mutual Aid Society, YOKOHAMA MIME-Version: 1.0 (generated by SEMI 1.14.6 - "Maruoka") Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII X-Greylist: Sender succeeded SMTP AUTH authentication, not delayed by milter-greylist-2.1.5 (ameno.mahoroba.org [IPv6:::1]); Mon, 15 May 2006 14:15:37 +0900 (JST) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.5 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=3.1.1 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.1 (2006-03-10) on ameno.mahoroba.org Cc: Daniel O'Connor , Yann Golanski , ktsin@acm.org, freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Ath0, netgear WG311T problem. [SOLVED] X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 15 May 2006 05:16:10 -0000 Hi, >>>>> On Sun, 14 May 2006 19:36:54 -0700 >>>>> "Kevin Oberman" said: oberman> It seems to work fine. My card seems to only report signal level and not oberman> link quality or noise. Still, it's better than what I had yesterday and oberman> I believe that it will report whatever is available to report for any oberman> 802.11 device. My Atheros seems to only provide signal quality. My patch is intended to show the S:N and INT fields of `ifconfig list scan'. Are you mean your ifconfig doesn't show S:N correctly? Sincerely, -- Hajimu UMEMOTO @ Internet Mutual Aid Society Yokohama, Japan ume@mahoroba.org ume@{,jp.}FreeBSD.org http://www.imasy.org/~ume/ From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Mon May 15 05:35:39 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ED1D816A50D; Mon, 15 May 2006 05:35:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from oberman@es.net) Received: from postal4.es.net (postal4.es.net [198.124.252.66]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6ACE443D45; Mon, 15 May 2006 05:35:39 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from oberman@es.net) Received: from ptavv.es.net ([198.128.4.29]) by postal4.es.net (Postal Node 4) with ESMTP (SSL) id IBA74465; Sun, 14 May 2006 22:35:34 -0700 Received: from ptavv.es.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ptavv.es.net (Tachyon Server) with ESMTP id D772145042; Sun, 14 May 2006 22:35:32 -0700 (PDT) To: Hajimu UMEMOTO In-reply-to: Your message of "Mon, 15 May 2006 14:15:31 +0900." Date: Sun, 14 May 2006 22:35:32 -0700 From: "Kevin Oberman" Message-Id: <20060515053532.D772145042@ptavv.es.net> Cc: Daniel O'Connor , Yann Golanski , ktsin@acm.org, freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Ath0, netgear WG311T problem. [SOLVED] X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 15 May 2006 05:35:40 -0000 > Date: Mon, 15 May 2006 14:15:31 +0900 > From: Hajimu UMEMOTO > > Hi, > > >>>>> On Sun, 14 May 2006 19:36:54 -0700 > >>>>> "Kevin Oberman" said: > > oberman> It seems to work fine. My card seems to only report signal level and not > oberman> link quality or noise. Still, it's better than what I had yesterday and > oberman> I believe that it will report whatever is available to report for any > oberman> 802.11 device. My Atheros seems to only provide signal quality. > > My patch is intended to show the S:N and INT fields of `ifconfig list > scan'. Are you mean your ifconfig doesn't show S:N correctly? Exactly. As yo can see, the signal is reasonable and changes over time and space. Noise is always zero and INT is always 100. Clearly, your patch is doing exactly what is was intended to do. > ifconfig ath0 list scan SSID BSSID CHAN RATE S:N INT CAPS babcom 00:0f:b5:1e:04:ba 11 54M 36:0 100 EP My interface is a 5212. ath_hal: 0.9.16.16 (AR5210, AR5211, AR5212, RF5111, RF5112, RF2413, RF5413) ath0: mem 0xa8400000-0xa840ffff irq 11 at device 2.0 on pci4 ath0: Ethernet address: 00:14:a4:60:f2:e3 ath0: mac 5.9 phy 4.3 radio 3.6 Thanks again. Any problems I am seeing don't appear to me to be related to your patch which is why I recommended sending it to the author. -- R. Kevin Oberman, Network Engineer Energy Sciences Network (ESnet) Ernest O. Lawrence Berkeley National Laboratory (Berkeley Lab) E-mail: oberman@es.net Phone: +1 510 486-8634 From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Mon May 15 06:02:06 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 61AD116A416; Mon, 15 May 2006 06:02:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ume@mahoroba.org) Received: from ameno.mahoroba.org (gw4.mahoroba.org [218.45.22.175]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1DBA043D66; Mon, 15 May 2006 06:01:58 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ume@mahoroba.org) Received: from localhost (IDENT:oBh2+eSPt7DBhTY26F3EB8ZFv7Bagemf07UHBhyFuNJ9XYnPK+qatIgrNtbLcj7o@localhost [IPv6:::1]) (user=ume mech=CRAM-MD5 bits=0) by ameno.mahoroba.org (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP/inet6 id k4F61cOP007592 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Mon, 15 May 2006 15:01:38 +0900 (JST) (envelope-from ume@mahoroba.org) Date: Mon, 15 May 2006 15:01:37 +0900 Message-ID: From: Hajimu UMEMOTO To: "Kevin Oberman" In-Reply-To: <20060515053532.D772145042@ptavv.es.net> References: <20060515053532.D772145042@ptavv.es.net> User-Agent: xcite1.38> Wanderlust/2.14.0 (Africa) SEMI/1.14.6 (Maruoka) FLIM/1.14.8 (=?ISO-8859-4?Q?Shij=F2?=) APEL/10.6 Emacs/22.0.50 (i386-unknown-freebsd5.5) MULE/5.0 (SAKAKI) X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 5.5-PRERELEASE X-PGP-Key: http://www.imasy.or.jp/~ume/publickey.asc X-PGP-Fingerprint: 1F00 0B9E 2164 70FC 6DC5 BF5F 04E9 F086 BF90 71FE Organization: Internet Mutual Aid Society, YOKOHAMA MIME-Version: 1.0 (generated by SEMI 1.14.6 - "Maruoka") Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII X-Greylist: Sender succeeded SMTP AUTH authentication, not delayed by milter-greylist-2.1.5 (ameno.mahoroba.org [IPv6:::1]); Mon, 15 May 2006 15:01:38 +0900 (JST) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.5 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=3.1.1 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.1 (2006-03-10) on ameno.mahoroba.org Cc: Daniel O'Connor , freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org, ktsin@acm.org, Yann Golanski Subject: Re: Ath0, netgear WG311T problem. [SOLVED] X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 15 May 2006 06:02:06 -0000 Hi, >>>>> On Sun, 14 May 2006 22:35:32 -0700 >>>>> "Kevin Oberman" said: oberman> Exactly. As yo can see, the signal is reasonable and changes over time oberman> and space. Noise is always zero and INT is always 100. Clearly, your oberman> patch is doing exactly what is was intended to do. > ifconfig ath0 list scan oberman> SSID BSSID CHAN RATE S:N INT CAPS oberman> babcom 00:0f:b5:1e:04:ba 11 54M 36:0 100 EP oberman> My interface is a 5212. oberman> ath_hal: 0.9.16.16 (AR5210, AR5211, AR5212, RF5111, RF5112, RF2413, RF5413) oberman> ath0: mem 0xa8400000-0xa840ffff irq 11 at device 2.0 on pci4 oberman> ath0: Ethernet address: 00:14:a4:60:f2:e3 oberman> ath0: mac 5.9 phy 4.3 radio 3.6 oberman> Thanks again. Any problems I am seeing don't appear to me to be related oberman> to your patch which is why I recommended sending it to the author. Okay, thank you. I wished to just clarify it. I'll send my patch to the author, later. Sincerely, -- Hajimu UMEMOTO @ Internet Mutual Aid Society Yokohama, Japan ume@mahoroba.org ume@{,jp.}FreeBSD.org http://www.imasy.org/~ume/ From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Mon May 15 13:12:24 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 25ABF16A536 for ; Mon, 15 May 2006 13:12:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dwilde@sandia.gov) Received: from sentry.sandia.gov (mm03snlnto.sandia.gov [132.175.109.20]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A654B43D5D for ; Mon, 15 May 2006 13:12:23 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from dwilde@sandia.gov) Received: from 132.175.109.1 by sentry.sandia.gov with ESMTP (Tumbleweed MMS SMTP Relay 01 (Email Firewall v6.2.2)); Mon, 15 May 2006 07:12:13 -0600 X-Server-Uuid: BB80EF77-0F08-4144-BAFD-CF7C62507341 Received: from ES23SNLNT.srn.sandia.gov (ec04snlnt.sandia.gov [134.253.164.156] (may be forged)) by mailgate.sandia.gov ( 8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id k4FDCDql011880 for ; Mon, 15 May 2006 07:12:13 -0600 (MDT) Received: from ES20SNLNT.srn.sandia.gov ([134.253.164.29]) by ES23SNLNT.srn.sandia.gov with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.1830); Mon, 15 May 2006 07:12:13 -0600 x-mimeole: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Mon, 15 May 2006 07:12:13 -0600 Message-ID: <040DF00BF960A24897B5B3EFBE63FE8A0240BEAA@ES20SNLNT.srn.sandia.gov> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: change in iwi-firmware operation Thread-Index: AcZ4IS51WalN1RlRSoW/4Q1jUfQd/Q== From: "Wilde, Donald" To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-OriginalArrivalTime: 15 May 2006 13:12:13.0528 (UTC) FILETIME=[2E748580:01C67821] X-TMWD-Spam-Summary: TS=20060515131214; SEV=2.0.2; DFV=A2006051504; IFV=2.0.4,4.0-8; RPD=4.00.0004; ENG=IBF; RPDID=NA; CAT=NONE; CON=NONE X-MMS-Spam-Filter-ID: A2006051504_4.00.0004_4.0-8 X-WSS-ID: 6876A1A72SS2544951-01-01 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: change in iwi-firmware operation X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 15 May 2006 13:12:24 -0000 Hi, All - I have a Centrino (2200G) equipped Dell Inspiron 6000, and had it working reasonably well with the iwi firmware. I just updated to the version in ports as of a few days ago, and discovered that the firmware won't stay firm. I can manually load it : iwicontrol -i iwi0 -r Radio is OFF iwicontrol -i iwi0 -k iwicontrol -i iwi0 -d /boot/firmware -m bss iwicontrol -I iwi0 -r=20 Radio is ON dhclient iwi0 and it connects. However, attempting to boot (with or without power off) makes it lose firmware. Nothing has changed from the previously-successful configuration in rc.conf and loader.conf. I have however, done RELENG_6 cvsup (a/o last Thursday), world, and portupgrade --all. I did try many combinations of iwicontrol, though not yet ten thousand, and I have checked out the Bergamini web page and forum. Thanks in advance! -- Don Wilde Org 01737 505-844-1126 I have not failed. I've just found 10,000 ways that won't work. - Thomas Alva Edison=20 =20 From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Mon May 15 13:44:43 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DE4AD16A855 for ; Mon, 15 May 2006 13:44:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dwilde@sandia.gov) Received: from sentry.sandia.gov (mm03snlnto.sandia.gov [132.175.109.20]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6AAB843D53 for ; Mon, 15 May 2006 13:44:43 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from dwilde@sandia.gov) Received: from 132.175.109.1 by sentry.sandia.gov with ESMTP (Tumbleweed MMS SMTP Relay 01 (Email Firewall v6.2.2)); Mon, 15 May 2006 07:44:36 -0600 X-Server-Uuid: BB80EF77-0F08-4144-BAFD-CF7C62507341 Received: from ES23SNLNT.srn.sandia.gov (ec04snlnt.sandia.gov [134.253.164.156] (may be forged)) by mailgate.sandia.gov ( 8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id k4FDiXtD019197; Mon, 15 May 2006 07:44:35 -0600 (MDT) Received: from ES20SNLNT.srn.sandia.gov ([134.253.164.29]) by ES23SNLNT.srn.sandia.gov with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.1830); Mon, 15 May 2006 07:44:34 -0600 x-mimeole: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Mon, 15 May 2006 07:44:34 -0600 Message-ID: <040DF00BF960A24897B5B3EFBE63FE8A0240BEC9@ES20SNLNT.srn.sandia.gov> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: change in iwi-firmware operation Thread-Index: AcZ4Iv/8atsUSkGyQxqk1kDLjZkBXgAAY0wA From: "Wilde, Donald" To: "Frank Altpeter" X-OriginalArrivalTime: 15 May 2006 13:44:34.0962 (UTC) FILETIME=[B3A3D720:01C67825] X-TMWD-Spam-Summary: TS=20060515134437; SEV=2.0.2; DFV=A2006051504; IFV=2.0.4,4.0-8; RPD=4.00.0004; ENG=IBF; RPDID=NA; CAT=NONE; CON=NONE X-MMS-Spam-Filter-ID: A2006051504_4.00.0004_4.0-8 X-WSS-ID: 68765A4E2SS2548501-01-01 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Subject: RE: change in iwi-firmware operation X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 15 May 2006 13:44:46 -0000 =20 -----Original Message----- From: Frank Altpeter [mailto:frank@altpeter.de]=20 Sent: Monday, May 15, 2006 7:25 AM To: Wilde, Donald Cc: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Subject: Re: change in iwi-firmware operation Hi there, Wilde, Donald wrote on 2006-05-15 at 15:12:13 CEST: > Hi, All - >=20 > I have a Centrino (2200G) equipped Dell Inspiron 6000, and had it=20 > working reasonably well with the iwi firmware. >=20 > I just updated to the version in ports as of a few days ago, and=20 > discovered that the firmware won't stay firm. Sure. The firmware is not permanent. It must be loaded on boot every time ... I'm running ipw which provides an ipw.sh startup script in $PREFIX/etc/rc.d which has to enabled with ipw_enable=3D"YES" - i assume the same fits for iwi driver... =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D =3D Thanks for the pointer, Frank, Hmmm. Kinda defeats the meaning of 'firmware', and I'm going to start worrying about write-cycles of the FLASH. Dunno what's in a Centrino system, (anybody?) although it's likely Intel NOR FLASH, which should be good for 100K-cycles. Even so, WHY would one need to load FLASH every boot? No, the iwi.sh did not get installed in /usr/local/etc/rc.d, although I did have iwi_enable=3D"YES" in rc.conf. Either that, or the nice little helpful routine in mergemaster cleaned it out for me as one of those "old" scripts that can cause "Very Bad Things" to happen... -- Don Wilde Org 01737 505-844-1126 I didn't get a toy train like the other kids. I got a toy subway instead. You couldn't see anything, but every now and then you'd hear this rumbling noise go by. - Steven Wright =20 From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Mon May 15 15:29:14 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3383616A534 for ; Mon, 15 May 2006 15:29:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from oberman@es.net) Received: from postal1.es.net (postal1.es.net [198.128.3.205]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DC70943D45 for ; Mon, 15 May 2006 15:29:13 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from oberman@es.net) Received: from ptavv.es.net ([198.128.4.29]) by postal1.es.net (Postal Node 1) with ESMTP (SSL) id IBA74465; Mon, 15 May 2006 08:29:07 -0700 Received: from ptavv.es.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ptavv.es.net (Tachyon Server) with ESMTP id 7B91245042; Mon, 15 May 2006 08:29:07 -0700 (PDT) To: "Wilde, Donald" In-reply-to: Your message of "Mon, 15 May 2006 07:44:34 MDT." <040DF00BF960A24897B5B3EFBE63FE8A0240BEC9@ES20SNLNT.srn.sandia.gov> Date: Mon, 15 May 2006 08:29:07 -0700 From: "Kevin Oberman" Message-Id: <20060515152907.7B91245042@ptavv.es.net> Cc: Frank Altpeter , freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Subject: Re: change in iwi-firmware operation X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 15 May 2006 15:29:14 -0000 > Date: Mon, 15 May 2006 07:44:34 -0600 > From: "Wilde, Donald" > Sender: owner-freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Frank Altpeter [mailto:frank@altpeter.de] > Sent: Monday, May 15, 2006 7:25 AM > To: Wilde, Donald Cc: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org > Subject: Re: change in iwi-firmware operation > > Hi there, > > Wilde, Donald wrote on 2006-05-15 at 15:12:13 CEST: > Hi, All - > > > I have a Centrino (2200G) equipped Dell Inspiron 6000, and had it > working reasonably well with the iwi firmware. > > I just updated to the version in ports as of a few days ago, and > discovered that the firmware won't stay firm. > > Sure. The firmware is not permanent. It must be loaded on boot every > time ... I'm running ipw which provides an ipw.sh startup script in > $PREFIX/etc/rc.d which has to enabled with ipw_enable="YES" - i > assume the same fits for iwi driver... > ========================= > ========================= > ========================= > > Thanks for the pointer, Frank, > > Hmmm. Kinda defeats the meaning of 'firmware', and I'm going to start > worrying about write-cycles of the FLASH. Dunno what's in a Centrino > system, (anybody?) although it's likely Intel NOR FLASH, which should > be good for 100K-cycles. Even so, WHY would one need to load FLASH > every boot? It is not hard on the flash as the iwi (and many other newer cards) don't have flash at all. They use RAM, which is much less expensive. It saves money, but means that the "firmware" must be loaded after every power cycle. It's a real pain and, because of the wording of the license, the firmware may not be included in the FreeBSD distribution. That's why the port to get the firmware. Note that this applies to Intel and Broadcom based cards, but others do allow the inclusion of the binary in distributions, so you don't need to install a port for the Atheros or most Asian parts. With margins on these things is razor thin, saving a few cents on RAM vs. flash can be the difference between a successful product and a failure. -- R. Kevin Oberman, Network Engineer Energy Sciences Network (ESnet) Ernest O. Lawrence Berkeley National Laboratory (Berkeley Lab) E-mail: oberman@es.net Phone: +1 510 486-8634 From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Mon May 15 16:50:37 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: mobile@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4AF9416AFB8 for ; Mon, 15 May 2006 16:50:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from imp@bsdimp.com) Received: from harmony.bsdimp.com (vc4-2-0-87.dsl.netrack.net [199.45.160.85]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D07CF43D76 for ; Mon, 15 May 2006 16:50:36 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from imp@bsdimp.com) Received: from localhost (localhost.village.org [IPv6:::1] (may be forged)) by harmony.bsdimp.com (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id k4FGmxxx027764 for ; Mon, 15 May 2006 10:48:59 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from imp@bsdimp.com) Date: Mon, 15 May 2006 10:48:59 -0600 (MDT) Message-Id: <20060515.104859.104060065.imp@bsdimp.com> To: mobile@freebsd.org From: Warner Losh X-Mailer: Mew version 3.3 on Emacs 21.3 / Mule 5.0 (SAKAKI) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Subject: Laptop dead, suggestions? X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 15 May 2006 16:50:37 -0000 Greetings, My Sony VAIO Z1W died this weekend at BSDcan. Both the hard dirve and the laptop are dead. The hard drive doesn't spin up on about half a dozen different machines and enclosures. The data is likely gone forever, unless I can find a good data recovery place. So, I'm in the market for a new laptop. Unless someone is donating me a decent one, I'd like it to have the following characteristics: >= 1GHz speed >= 512MB RAM >= 40GB hard disk Excellent battery life light weight (< 4 pounds?) decent scren well constructed PC Card slot ExpressCard slot SD card slot (with the standard SD host interface) builtin wireless Does anybody have any recommendations? Warner From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Mon May 15 18:41:24 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: mobile@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E775016B48F for ; Mon, 15 May 2006 18:41:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from aelmore@interwoven.com) Received: from smtp02corp.interwoven.com (smtp02corp.interwoven.com [65.161.4.46]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7107143D53 for ; Mon, 15 May 2006 18:41:21 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from aelmore@interwoven.com) Received: from exbesv01.Interwoven.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by smtp02corp.interwoven.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id k4FIfEJW027533; Mon, 15 May 2006 11:41:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: from relax.amer.interwoven.com ([10.192.11.188]) by exbesv01.Interwoven.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.211); Mon, 15 May 2006 11:41:15 -0700 Received: from relax.amer.interwoven.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by relax.amer.interwoven.com (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id k4FIfHtk089664; Mon, 15 May 2006 11:41:17 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from aelmore@relax.amer.interwoven.com) Received: (from aelmore@localhost) by relax.amer.interwoven.com (8.13.4/8.13.4/Submit) id k4FIfHZa089663; Mon, 15 May 2006 11:41:17 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from aelmore) Date: Mon, 15 May 2006 11:41:17 -0700 From: Andrew Elmore To: Warner Losh Message-ID: <20060515184117.GD80247@interwoven.com> References: <20060515.104859.104060065.imp@bsdimp.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20060515.104859.104060065.imp@bsdimp.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i X-OriginalArrivalTime: 15 May 2006 18:41:15.0243 (UTC) FILETIME=[256F2BB0:01C6784F] Cc: mobile@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Laptop dead, suggestions? X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 15 May 2006 18:41:26 -0000 On Mon, May 15, 2006 at 10:48:59AM -0600, Warner Losh wrote: > So, I'm in the market for a new laptop. Unless someone is donating me > a decent one, I'd like it to have the following characteristics: > >= 1GHz speed > >= 512MB RAM > >= 40GB hard disk > Excellent battery life > light weight (< 4 pounds?) > decent scren > well constructed > PC Card slot > ExpressCard slot > SD card slot (with the standard SD host interface) > builtin wireless > > Does anybody have any recommendations? I have had good experiences with IBM/Lenovo Thinkpads, having owned several over the last ten years. Most of mine have been the desktop replacement variety (except for two, a Z50 supercompact which ran NetBSD/hpcmips, and a previously used 560), but the Thinkpad X-series meets most of your requirements, not sure about the SD card slot or Express Card. The X-series are the only ones without a builtin trackpad, which may or may not suit your personal preference-- I find the TrackPoint red "eraser" pointer to be very ergonomic, and appreciate having one of the few laptops with three mouse buttons. regards, Andrew From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Mon May 15 18:52:05 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: mobile@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DCF7316A826 for ; Mon, 15 May 2006 18:52:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from james@netinertia.co.uk) Received: from starbug.netinertia.co.uk (starbug.netinertia.co.uk [217.147.82.211]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E795543D5D for ; Mon, 15 May 2006 18:50:40 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from james@netinertia.co.uk) Received: from croydon.netinertia.co.uk ([82.69.247.45] helo=[10.1.0.82]) by starbug.netinertia.co.uk with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.60 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1FfiAs-000CTL-Mf; Mon, 15 May 2006 19:52:12 +0100 Message-ID: <4468CD5E.3030709@netinertia.co.uk> Date: Mon, 15 May 2006 19:50:06 +0100 From: James O'Gorman User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.2 (Windows/20060308) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Andrew Elmore References: <20060515.104859.104060065.imp@bsdimp.com> <20060515184117.GD80247@interwoven.com> In-Reply-To: <20060515184117.GD80247@interwoven.com> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.94.0.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-NetI-Spam-Score: -1.4 (-) Cc: mobile@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Laptop dead, suggestions? X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 15 May 2006 18:52:06 -0000 Andrew Elmore wrote: > On Mon, May 15, 2006 at 10:48:59AM -0600, Warner Losh wrote: >> So, I'm in the market for a new laptop. Unless someone is donating me >> a decent one, I'd like it to have the following characteristics: >> >= 1GHz speed >> >= 512MB RAM >> >= 40GB hard disk >> Excellent battery life >> light weight (< 4 pounds?) >> decent scren >> well constructed >> PC Card slot >> ExpressCard slot >> SD card slot (with the standard SD host interface) >> builtin wireless >> >> Does anybody have any recommendations? > > I have had good experiences with IBM/Lenovo Thinkpads, having owned > several over the last ten years. Most of mine have been the desktop > replacement variety (except for two, a Z50 supercompact which ran > NetBSD/hpcmips, and a previously used 560), but the Thinkpad X-series > meets most of your requirements, not sure about the SD card slot or > Express Card. I'd second the ThinkPad vote. They're fantastic machines, although not the cheapest. The T and X series are certainly worth a serious look, IMHO. > The X-series are the only ones without a builtin trackpad, which may > or may not suit your personal preference-- I find the TrackPoint red > "eraser" pointer to be very ergonomic, and appreciate having one of the > few laptops with three mouse buttons. While the X-series are fantastic machines, the newest models (X60/X60s) usually use the Intel 3945ABG card for the wireless*, which isn't much use in FreeBSD at the moment! (See my previous posts to this list about wireless attempts.) James * However there are a few models (mostly in the US I believe) that use the Atheros card, hence the ath driver might work. YMMV. From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Mon May 15 19:13:59 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: mobile@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B587116B7B1 for ; Mon, 15 May 2006 19:13:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from LoN_Kamikaze@gmx.de) Received: from mail.gmx.net (mail.gmx.net [213.165.64.20]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 0FDCB43D48 for ; Mon, 15 May 2006 19:13:55 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from LoN_Kamikaze@gmx.de) Received: (qmail invoked by alias); 15 May 2006 19:13:54 -0000 Received: from p54A7DAF1.dip.t-dialin.net (EHLO [192.168.0.12]) [84.167.218.241] by mail.gmx.net (mp028) with SMTP; 15 May 2006 21:13:54 +0200 X-Authenticated: #5465401 Message-ID: <4468D2EC.1000805@gmx.de> Date: Mon, 15 May 2006 21:13:48 +0200 From: "[LoN]Kamikaze" Organization: Lords of Nightmare User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.2 (X11/20060423) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Warner Losh References: <20060515.104859.104060065.imp@bsdimp.com> In-Reply-To: <20060515.104859.104060065.imp@bsdimp.com> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.94.0.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Y-GMX-Trusted: 0 Cc: mobile@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Laptop dead, suggestions? X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 15 May 2006 19:14:04 -0000 Warner Losh wrote: > > So, I'm in the market for a new laptop. > > Does anybody have any recommendations? > > Warner > In my opinion reliable laptops are a question of good luck. I didn't have good luck with my Thinkpad (quite the opposite), but most people seem to have. So my recommendation is to take one that has (at least) a 3 years warranty plan and offers relatively cheap battery replacements. From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Mon May 15 19:25:52 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: mobile@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4600216AFA9 for ; Mon, 15 May 2006 19:25:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dave@dogwood.com) Received: from ms-smtp-03.socal.rr.com (ms-smtp-03.socal.rr.com [66.75.162.135]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C9ADE43D6D for ; Mon, 15 May 2006 19:25:43 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from dave@dogwood.com) Received: from white.dogwood.com (white.dogwood.com [66.91.140.178]) by ms-smtp-03.socal.rr.com (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id k4FJPVOw017341; Mon, 15 May 2006 12:25:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: from white.dogwood.com (localhost.dogwood.com [127.0.0.1]) by white.dogwood.com (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id k4FJPVuC015624; Mon, 15 May 2006 09:25:31 -1000 (HST) (envelope-from dave@white.dogwood.com) Received: (from dave@localhost) by white.dogwood.com (8.13.4/8.13.1/Submit) id k4FJPVon015623; Mon, 15 May 2006 09:25:31 -1000 (HST) (envelope-from dave) From: Dave Cornejo Message-Id: <200605151925.k4FJPVon015623@white.dogwood.com> In-Reply-To: <20060515.104859.104060065.imp@bsdimp.com> To: Warner Losh Date: Mon, 15 May 2006 09:25:31 -1000 (HST) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL121h (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-2.0.2 (white.dogwood.com [127.0.0.1]); Mon, 15 May 2006 09:25:31 -1000 (HST) X-Virus-Scanned: Symantec AntiVirus Scan Engine Cc: mobile@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Laptop dead, suggestions? X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 15 May 2006 19:25:53 -0000 Offer to blow it up and post video for donations? dave c > Greetings, > > My Sony VAIO Z1W died this weekend at BSDcan. Both the hard dirve and > the laptop are dead. The hard drive doesn't spin up on about half a > dozen different machines and enclosures. The data is likely gone > forever, unless I can find a good data recovery place. > > So, I'm in the market for a new laptop. Unless someone is donating me > a decent one, I'd like it to have the following characteristics: > >= 1GHz speed > >= 512MB RAM > >= 40GB hard disk > Excellent battery life > light weight (< 4 pounds?) > decent scren > well constructed > PC Card slot > ExpressCard slot > SD card slot (with the standard SD host interface) > builtin wireless > > Does anybody have any recommendations? > > Warner > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-mobile > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-mobile-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Mon May 15 19:41:02 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: mobile@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 65D9816B77C for ; Mon, 15 May 2006 19:41:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dan@langille.org) Received: from m21.unixathome.org (m21.unixathome.org [205.150.199.217]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2D7ED43D72 for ; Mon, 15 May 2006 19:40:54 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from dan@langille.org) Received: from localhost (localhost [205.150.199.217]) by m21.unixathome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5CE7EBFB6; Mon, 15 May 2006 15:40:53 -0400 (EDT) Received: from m21.unixathome.org ([205.150.199.217]) by localhost (m21.unixathome.org [205.150.199.217]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 19096-05; Mon, 15 May 2006 15:40:50 -0400 (EDT) Received: from bast.unixathome.org (bast.unixathome.org [70.26.229.230]) by m21.unixathome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2AF96BFAF; Mon, 15 May 2006 15:40:46 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [10.55.0.99] (wocker.unixathome.org [10.55.0.99]) by bast.unixathome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AAA0AB820; Mon, 15 May 2006 15:40:41 -0400 (EDT) From: "Dan Langille" To: Warner Losh Date: Mon, 15 May 2006 15:40:41 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: <4468A0F9.6071.37FD6A10@dan.langille.org> Priority: normal In-reply-to: <20060515.104859.104060065.imp@bsdimp.com> X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (4.31) Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-description: Mail message body X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new-20030616-p10 (Debian) at unixathome.org Cc: mobile@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Laptop dead, suggestions? X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 15 May 2006 19:41:02 -0000 On 15 May 2006 at 10:48, Warner Losh wrote: > Does anybody have any recommendations? I have an IBM ThinkPad T41. I like it. If I had to buy a new laptop, I would give serious consideration to the Apple dual core Intel units. I saw one at BSDCan and I loved it. I think it was US$1800 or something, but my memory is very vague on that. Would you consider an Apple? -- Dan Langille : Software Developer looking for work my resume: http://www.freebsddiary.org/dan_langille.php From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Mon May 15 19:50:44 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: mobile@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 71D1216B962 for ; Mon, 15 May 2006 19:50:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from imp@bsdimp.com) Received: from harmony.bsdimp.com (vc4-2-0-87.dsl.netrack.net [199.45.160.85]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 078A243D45 for ; Mon, 15 May 2006 19:50:42 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from imp@bsdimp.com) Received: from localhost (localhost.village.org [IPv6:::1] (may be forged)) by harmony.bsdimp.com (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id k4FJm044030076; Mon, 15 May 2006 13:48:00 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from imp@bsdimp.com) Date: Mon, 15 May 2006 13:48:00 -0600 (MDT) Message-Id: <20060515.134800.48507830.imp@bsdimp.com> To: dave@dogwood.com From: Warner Losh In-Reply-To: <200605151925.k4FJPVon015623@white.dogwood.com> References: <20060515.104859.104060065.imp@bsdimp.com> <200605151925.k4FJPVon015623@white.dogwood.com> X-Mailer: Mew version 3.3 on Emacs 21.3 / Mule 5.0 (SAKAKI) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: mobile@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Laptop dead, suggestions? X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 15 May 2006 19:51:06 -0000 > Offer to blow it up and post video for donations? Hmmm, I like that idea... Warner > > Greetings, > > > > My Sony VAIO Z1W died this weekend at BSDcan. Both the hard dirve and > > the laptop are dead. The hard drive doesn't spin up on about half a > > dozen different machines and enclosures. The data is likely gone > > forever, unless I can find a good data recovery place. > > > > So, I'm in the market for a new laptop. Unless someone is donating me > > a decent one, I'd like it to have the following characteristics: > > >= 1GHz speed > > >= 512MB RAM > > >= 40GB hard disk > > Excellent battery life > > light weight (< 4 pounds?) > > decent scren > > well constructed > > PC Card slot > > ExpressCard slot > > SD card slot (with the standard SD host interface) > > builtin wireless > > > > Does anybody have any recommendations? > > > > Warner > > _______________________________________________ > > freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org mailing list > > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-mobile > > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-mobile-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > > > From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Mon May 15 19:53:52 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: mobile@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0870F16B0CF for ; Mon, 15 May 2006 19:53:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from imp@bsdimp.com) Received: from harmony.bsdimp.com (vc4-2-0-87.dsl.netrack.net [199.45.160.85]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6B9CF43D49 for ; Mon, 15 May 2006 19:53:51 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from imp@bsdimp.com) Received: from localhost (localhost.village.org [IPv6:::1] (may be forged)) by harmony.bsdimp.com (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id k4FJqHk0030100; Mon, 15 May 2006 13:52:17 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from imp@bsdimp.com) Date: Mon, 15 May 2006 13:52:17 -0600 (MDT) Message-Id: <20060515.135217.28811839.imp@bsdimp.com> To: dan@langille.org From: Warner Losh In-Reply-To: <4468A0F9.6071.37FD6A10@dan.langille.org> References: <20060515.104859.104060065.imp@bsdimp.com> <4468A0F9.6071.37FD6A10@dan.langille.org> X-Mailer: Mew version 3.3 on Emacs 21.3 / Mule 5.0 (SAKAKI) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: mobile@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Laptop dead, suggestions? X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 15 May 2006 19:53:53 -0000 > On 15 May 2006 at 10:48, Warner Losh wrote: > > > Does anybody have any recommendations? > > I have an IBM ThinkPad T41. I like it. If I had to buy a new laptop, > I would give serious consideration to the Apple dual core Intel > units. I saw one at BSDCan and I loved it. I think it was US$1800 > or something, but my memory is very vague on that. > > Would you consider an Apple? Does FreBSD/i386 boot on Apple/intel hardware? The answers are the same :-) Warner From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Mon May 15 19:59:57 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: mobile@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D480116BA9C for ; Mon, 15 May 2006 19:59:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from imp@bsdimp.com) Received: from harmony.bsdimp.com (vc4-2-0-87.dsl.netrack.net [199.45.160.85]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3F33D43D91 for ; Mon, 15 May 2006 19:59:49 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from imp@bsdimp.com) Received: from localhost (localhost.village.org [IPv6:::1] (may be forged)) by harmony.bsdimp.com (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id k4FJxW9a030192; Mon, 15 May 2006 13:59:32 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from imp@bsdimp.com) Date: Mon, 15 May 2006 13:59:32 -0600 (MDT) Message-Id: <20060515.135932.88501556.imp@bsdimp.com> To: dan@langille.org From: Warner Losh In-Reply-To: <4468A0F9.6071.37FD6A10@dan.langille.org> References: <20060515.104859.104060065.imp@bsdimp.com> <4468A0F9.6071.37FD6A10@dan.langille.org> X-Mailer: Mew version 3.3 on Emacs 21.3 / Mule 5.0 (SAKAKI) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: mobile@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Laptop dead, suggestions? X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 15 May 2006 20:00:00 -0000 From: "Dan Langille" Subject: Re: Laptop dead, suggestions? Date: Mon, 15 May 2006 15:40:41 -0400 > On 15 May 2006 at 10:48, Warner Losh wrote: > > > Does anybody have any recommendations? > > I have an IBM ThinkPad T41. I like it. If I had to buy a new laptop, > I would give serious consideration to the Apple dual core Intel > units. I saw one at BSDCan and I loved it. I think it was US$1800 > or something, but my memory is very vague on that. > > Would you consider an Apple? On apple's web site I'm seeing the fmore more like $2000. The only down size that I see to them is that they come with a ExpressCard/34 slot only. No PC Card slot, and not ExpressCard/54. Some of the few ExpressCard cards that I've seen are the /54 variety... Warner From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Mon May 15 20:00:08 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: mobile@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 13DE716AFB9 for ; Mon, 15 May 2006 20:00:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bakul@bitblocks.com) Received: from mail.bitblocks.com (bitblocks.com [209.204.185.216]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3FA8343D92 for ; Mon, 15 May 2006 19:59:59 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from bakul@bitblocks.com) Received: from bitblocks.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.bitblocks.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4D3BE294B9; Mon, 15 May 2006 12:59:59 -0700 (PDT) To: Warner Losh In-reply-to: Your message of "Mon, 15 May 2006 13:48:00 MDT." <20060515.134800.48507830.imp@bsdimp.com> Date: Mon, 15 May 2006 12:59:59 -0700 From: Bakul Shah Message-Id: <20060515195959.4D3BE294B9@mail.bitblocks.com> Cc: dave@dogwood.com, mobile@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Laptop dead, suggestions? X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 15 May 2006 20:00:14 -0000 > > Offer to blow it up and post video for donations? > > Hmmm, I like that idea... Another reason to buy a laptop with a magnesium case.... Though I suspect Mg alloys don't burn as brightly:-) From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Mon May 15 20:06:11 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: mobile@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 58DA616BABC for ; Mon, 15 May 2006 20:06:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from imp@bsdimp.com) Received: from harmony.bsdimp.com (vc4-2-0-87.dsl.netrack.net [199.45.160.85]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D6AC143D45 for ; Mon, 15 May 2006 20:06:10 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from imp@bsdimp.com) Received: from localhost (localhost.village.org [IPv6:::1] (may be forged)) by harmony.bsdimp.com (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id k4FK5PA4030293; Mon, 15 May 2006 14:05:25 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from imp@bsdimp.com) Date: Mon, 15 May 2006 14:05:25 -0600 (MDT) Message-Id: <20060515.140525.70193103.imp@bsdimp.com> To: bakul@bitblocks.com From: Warner Losh In-Reply-To: <20060515195959.4D3BE294B9@mail.bitblocks.com> References: <20060515.134800.48507830.imp@bsdimp.com> <20060515195959.4D3BE294B9@mail.bitblocks.com> X-Mailer: Mew version 3.3 on Emacs 21.3 / Mule 5.0 (SAKAKI) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: dave@dogwood.com, mobile@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Laptop dead, suggestions? X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 15 May 2006 20:06:13 -0000 From: Bakul Shah Subject: Re: Laptop dead, suggestions? Date: Mon, 15 May 2006 12:59:59 -0700 > > > Offer to blow it up and post video for donations? > > > > Hmmm, I like that idea... > > Another reason to buy a laptop with a magnesium case.... > Though I suspect Mg alloys don't burn as brightly:-) Mg burns very brightly, but not nearly as exposively as Cs or Rb metal in water! Warner From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Mon May 15 20:07:17 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: mobile@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C827616B05F for ; Mon, 15 May 2006 20:07:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rainer@ultra-secure.de) Received: from bsd.ultra-secure.de (bsd.ultra-secure.de [62.146.20.26]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E170E43D46 for ; Mon, 15 May 2006 20:07:16 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from rainer@ultra-secure.de) Received: (qmail 89529 invoked by uid 89); 15 May 2006 20:07:15 -0000 Received: by simscan 1.1.0 ppid: 89515, pid: 89523, t: 4.8082s scanners: attach: 1.1.0 clamav: 0.86.2/m:33/d:1045 spam: 3.0.4 Received: from unknown (HELO ?192.168.1.198?) (rainer@ultra-secure.de@217.71.83.52) by bsd.ultra-secure.de with (DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA encrypted) SMTP; 15 May 2006 20:07:10 -0000 Message-ID: <4468DF69.20702@ultra-secure.de> Date: Mon, 15 May 2006 22:07:05 +0200 From: Rainer Duffner User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5 (X11/20060311) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Dan Langille References: <4468A0F9.6071.37FD6A10@dan.langille.org> In-Reply-To: <4468A0F9.6071.37FD6A10@dan.langille.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.0.4 (2005-06-05) on bsd.ultra-secure.de X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.5 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=3.0.4 Cc: mobile@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Laptop dead, suggestions? X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 15 May 2006 20:07:21 -0000 Dan Langille wrote: > On 15 May 2006 at 10:48, Warner Losh wrote: > > >> Does anybody have any recommendations? >> > > I have an IBM ThinkPad T41. I like it. If I had to buy a new laptop, > I would give serious consideration to the Apple dual core Intel > units. I saw one at BSDCan and I loved it. I think it was US$1800 > or something, but my memory is very vague on that. > > Would you consider an Apple? > > I don't think it's a good idea to run anything besides OS X on an Apple machine. Unless being a FreeBSD-core member nowadays really only consists of project-management-tasks and presentations to suit-wearing investors, he will want to have a laptop with more than one mouse-button ;-) Besides, the MacBook Pro is nice - I just don't think it is useful without OS X. For a full-featured laptop with serial, parallel, IE1394, USB2, PCcard+Express-Card, BT2, IR, IEEE802.11x, GB-ethernet take a look at Fujtisu-Siemens' latest lifebook E8120 offerings. They're also very durable (although a bit heavy), I've got a E8010 and it's a nice workstation. cheers, Rainer From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Mon May 15 20:14:44 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: mobile@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 814B816A555 for ; Mon, 15 May 2006 20:14:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from imp@bsdimp.com) Received: from harmony.bsdimp.com (vc4-2-0-87.dsl.netrack.net [199.45.160.85]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 21C1643D46 for ; Mon, 15 May 2006 20:14:44 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from imp@bsdimp.com) Received: from localhost (localhost.village.org [IPv6:::1] (may be forged)) by harmony.bsdimp.com (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id k4FKCCnh030425; Mon, 15 May 2006 14:12:12 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from imp@bsdimp.com) Date: Mon, 15 May 2006 14:12:12 -0600 (MDT) Message-Id: <20060515.141212.35690040.imp@bsdimp.com> To: rainer@ultra-secure.de From: Warner Losh In-Reply-To: <4468DF69.20702@ultra-secure.de> References: <4468A0F9.6071.37FD6A10@dan.langille.org> <4468DF69.20702@ultra-secure.de> X-Mailer: Mew version 3.3 on Emacs 21.3 / Mule 5.0 (SAKAKI) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: dan@langille.org, mobile@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Laptop dead, suggestions? X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 15 May 2006 20:14:44 -0000 > Besides, the MacBook Pro is nice - I just don't think it is useful > without OS X. Looking at it closely shows that it doesn't fit my needs. I wouldn't turn a free one down, but I think that for $2k I can find something that fits my needs better. > For a full-featured laptop with serial, parallel, IE1394, USB2, > PCcard+Express-Card, BT2, IR, IEEE802.11x, GB-ethernet take a look at > Fujtisu-Siemens' latest lifebook E8120 offerings. > They're also very durable (although a bit heavy), I've got a E8010 and > it's a nice workstation. Funny you should mention that. The Lifebook has been recommended by a couple of my friends, so I've been looking at them all morning. They look like the best option for me. Well, I did look at a laptop that had builtin RAID-1 support, but that might be more agressive than I really need... Warner From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Mon May 15 20:18:20 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 80FFB16AF52 for ; Mon, 15 May 2006 20:18:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from howells@kde.org) Received: from mail.devrandom.org.uk (host-84-9-223-82.bulldogdsl.com [84.9.223.82]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1144843D6D for ; Mon, 15 May 2006 20:18:12 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from howells@kde.org) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.devrandom.org.uk (Postfix) with ESMTP id C07ACFD050 for ; Mon, 15 May 2006 21:18:10 +0100 (BST) Received: from mail.devrandom.org.uk ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (mail.devrandom.org.uk [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 60149-07 for ; Mon, 15 May 2006 21:18:08 +0100 (BST) Received: from [192.168.1.148] (unknown [192.168.1.148]) (using TLSv1 with cipher EXP1024-RC4-SHA (56/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.devrandom.org.uk (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0F1AAFD04E for ; Mon, 15 May 2006 21:18:08 +0100 (BST) From: Chris Howells Organization: K Desktop Environment To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Date: Mon, 15 May 2006 21:17:48 +0100 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.1 References: <20060515.104859.104060065.imp@bsdimp.com> In-Reply-To: <20060515.104859.104060065.imp@bsdimp.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="nextPart1377226.7rl5e6a8Wh"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=pgp-sha1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <200605152117.51998.howells@kde.org> X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at devrandom.org.uk Subject: Re: Laptop dead, suggestions? X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 15 May 2006 20:18:22 -0000 --nextPart1377226.7rl5e6a8Wh Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline On Monday 15 May 2006 17:48, Warner Losh wrote: > Does anybody have any recommendations? ThinkPad X60s, though it's missing the ExpressCard slot. Battery life is=20 excellent with the 8 cell battery, or the additional 4 cell which sits=20 beneath. =2D-=20 Cheers, Chris Howells -- chris@chrishowells.co.uk, howells@kde.org Web: http://www.chrishowells.co.uk, PGP ID: 0x33795A2C KDE/Qt/C++/PHP Developer: http://www.kde.org --nextPart1377226.7rl5e6a8Wh Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.2.2 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQBEaOHvF8Iu1zN5WiwRAkinAJ0fF/nxrIrAwuGeyiChRxlZslSoVgCfal5C jn+FSJ2pVeLjnQsx8g//woo= =phII -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --nextPart1377226.7rl5e6a8Wh-- From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Mon May 15 21:10:21 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 91A6516A9A5; Mon, 15 May 2006 21:10:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mistry.7@osu.edu) Received: from mail.united-ware.com (am-productions.biz [69.61.164.22]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EA30443D49; Mon, 15 May 2006 21:10:20 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from mistry.7@osu.edu) Received: from [192.168.1.100] (am-productions.biz [69.61.164.22]) (authenticated bits=0) by mail.united-ware.com (8.13.4/8.13.6) with ESMTP id k4FLAmlF097984 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Mon, 15 May 2006 17:10:54 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from mistry.7@osu.edu) From: Anish Mistry To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Date: Mon, 15 May 2006 17:10:24 -0400 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.1 References: <4468A0F9.6071.37FD6A10@dan.langille.org> <4468DF69.20702@ultra-secure.de> <20060515.141212.35690040.imp@bsdimp.com> In-Reply-To: <20060515.141212.35690040.imp@bsdimp.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="nextPart2101287.VLT1OiU6cy"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=pgp-sha1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <200605151710.39858.mistry.7@osu.edu> X-Spam-Status: No, score=-8.5 required=5.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,BAYES_50, MYFREEBSD2,MYFREEBSD3 autolearn=failed version=3.1.0 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.0 (2005-09-13) on mail.united-ware.com X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV 0.88.2/1463/Mon May 15 06:55:22 2006 on mail.united-ware.com X-Virus-Status: Clean Cc: mobile@freebsd.org, rainer@ultra-secure.de, dan@langille.org Subject: Re: Laptop dead, suggestions? X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 15 May 2006 21:10:25 -0000 --nextPart2101287.VLT1OiU6cy Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline On Monday 15 May 2006 16:12, Warner Losh wrote: > > Besides, the MacBook Pro is nice - I just don't think it is > > useful without OS X. > > Looking at it closely shows that it doesn't fit my needs. I > wouldn't turn a free one down, but I think that for $2k I can find > something that fits my needs better. > > > For a full-featured laptop with serial, parallel, IE1394, USB2, > > PCcard+Express-Card, BT2, IR, IEEE802.11x, GB-ethernet take a > > look at Fujtisu-Siemens' latest lifebook E8120 offerings. > > They're also very durable (although a bit heavy), I've got a > > E8010 and it's a nice workstation. > > Funny you should mention that. The Lifebook has been recommended > by a couple of my friends, so I've been looking at them all > morning. They look like the best option for me. I've got a 4 year old Fujitsu 2110 P-Series, (running -CURRENT) it=20 gets excellent battery life and is small and light. The P-7000's are=20 nice but they don't meet your ExpressCard requirement. If you do go=20 with a Fujitsu get the high-capacity batteries, you won't be sorry. =2D-=20 Anish Mistry --nextPart2101287.VLT1OiU6cy Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.3 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQBEaO5PxqA5ziudZT0RAp+iAJ4is9FcCyw4kMp48xg4/0+IFE8SqQCfSh54 oVSrJR+Rl5NW4YGeP8hnl/k= =pukD -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --nextPart2101287.VLT1OiU6cy-- From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Mon May 15 21:10:21 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: mobile@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 91A6516A9A5; Mon, 15 May 2006 21:10:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mistry.7@osu.edu) Received: from mail.united-ware.com (am-productions.biz [69.61.164.22]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EA30443D49; Mon, 15 May 2006 21:10:20 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from mistry.7@osu.edu) Received: from [192.168.1.100] (am-productions.biz [69.61.164.22]) (authenticated bits=0) by mail.united-ware.com (8.13.4/8.13.6) with ESMTP id k4FLAmlF097984 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Mon, 15 May 2006 17:10:54 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from mistry.7@osu.edu) From: Anish Mistry To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Date: Mon, 15 May 2006 17:10:24 -0400 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.1 References: <4468A0F9.6071.37FD6A10@dan.langille.org> <4468DF69.20702@ultra-secure.de> <20060515.141212.35690040.imp@bsdimp.com> In-Reply-To: <20060515.141212.35690040.imp@bsdimp.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="nextPart2101287.VLT1OiU6cy"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=pgp-sha1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <200605151710.39858.mistry.7@osu.edu> X-Spam-Status: No, score=-8.5 required=5.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,BAYES_50, MYFREEBSD2,MYFREEBSD3 autolearn=failed version=3.1.0 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.0 (2005-09-13) on mail.united-ware.com X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV 0.88.2/1463/Mon May 15 06:55:22 2006 on mail.united-ware.com X-Virus-Status: Clean Cc: mobile@freebsd.org, rainer@ultra-secure.de, dan@langille.org Subject: Re: Laptop dead, suggestions? X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 15 May 2006 21:10:26 -0000 --nextPart2101287.VLT1OiU6cy Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline On Monday 15 May 2006 16:12, Warner Losh wrote: > > Besides, the MacBook Pro is nice - I just don't think it is > > useful without OS X. > > Looking at it closely shows that it doesn't fit my needs. I > wouldn't turn a free one down, but I think that for $2k I can find > something that fits my needs better. > > > For a full-featured laptop with serial, parallel, IE1394, USB2, > > PCcard+Express-Card, BT2, IR, IEEE802.11x, GB-ethernet take a > > look at Fujtisu-Siemens' latest lifebook E8120 offerings. > > They're also very durable (although a bit heavy), I've got a > > E8010 and it's a nice workstation. > > Funny you should mention that. The Lifebook has been recommended > by a couple of my friends, so I've been looking at them all > morning. They look like the best option for me. I've got a 4 year old Fujitsu 2110 P-Series, (running -CURRENT) it=20 gets excellent battery life and is small and light. The P-7000's are=20 nice but they don't meet your ExpressCard requirement. If you do go=20 with a Fujitsu get the high-capacity batteries, you won't be sorry. =2D-=20 Anish Mistry --nextPart2101287.VLT1OiU6cy Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.3 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQBEaO5PxqA5ziudZT0RAp+iAJ4is9FcCyw4kMp48xg4/0+IFE8SqQCfSh54 oVSrJR+Rl5NW4YGeP8hnl/k= =pukD -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --nextPart2101287.VLT1OiU6cy-- From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Mon May 15 22:49:11 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5BBEF16AE5E for ; Mon, 15 May 2006 22:49:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sub02@freeode.co.uk) Received: from mail.freeode.co.uk (213-162-123-162.johnmu221.adsl.metronet.co.uk [213.162.123.162]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AC35D43D58 for ; Mon, 15 May 2006 22:49:09 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from sub02@freeode.co.uk) Received: from lexx.freeode.co.uk (lexx.freeode.co.uk [10.10.10.2]) by mail.freeode.co.uk (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id k4FMn8CQ008191 for ; Mon, 15 May 2006 23:49:08 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from sub02@freeode.co.uk) From: John Murphy To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Date: Mon, 15 May 2006 23:49:08 +0100 Message-ID: X-Mailer: Forte Agent 1.93/32.576 English (American) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: acx100 build fails in if_acxifnet.c X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: sub02@freeode.co.uk List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 15 May 2006 22:49:13 -0000 I have a laptop running FreeBSD-6.1 and I'm trying to get a D-Link DWL-650+ pcmcia card working. I have kernel sources installed and the ports tree was updated with cvsup last night. Running make install in /usr/ports/net/acx100 proceeds ok up to: cc -O2 -fno-strict-aliasing -pipe -ggdb -Werror -D_KERNEL -DKLD_MODULE -nostdinc -I- -I./include -I. -I@ -I@/contrib/altq -I@/../include -I/usr/include -finlin e-limit=8000 -fno-common -mno-align-long-strings -mpreferred-stack-boundary=2 -mno-mmx -mno-3dnow -mno-sse -mno-sse2 -ffreestanding -Wall -Wredundant-decls -W nested-externs -Wstrict-prototypes -Wmissing-prototypes -Wpointer-arith -Winlin e -Wcast-qual -fformat-extensions -std=c99 -c if_acxifnet.c if_acxifnet.c: In function `acx_ifnet_attach': if_acxifnet.c:58: error: structure has no member named `ic_if' if_acxifnet.c:114: warning: passing arg 1 of `ieee80211_ifattach' from incompati ble pointer type if_acxifnet.c:117: warning: assignment from incompatible pointer type if_acxifnet.c:118: warning: assignment from incompatible pointer type if_acxifnet.c:121: warning: passing arg 1 of `ieee80211_media_init' from incompa tible pointer type if_acxifnet.c: In function `acx_ifnet_detach': if_acxifnet.c:183: error: structure has no member named `ic_if' if_acxifnet.c:184: warning: passing arg 1 of `ieee80211_ifdetach' from incompati ble pointer type if_acxifnet.c: In function `acx_ifnet_start_scan': if_acxifnet.c:200: warning: passing arg 1 of `ieee80211_begin_scan' from incompa tible pointer type if_acxifnet.c:200: error: too few arguments to function `ieee80211_begin_scan' if_acxifnet.c: In function `acx_ifnet_callout_next_scan': if_acxifnet.c:229: warning: passing arg 1 of `ieee80211_next_scan' from incompat ible pointer type if_acxifnet.c: In function `acx_ifnet_ioctl': if_acxifnet.c:273: warning: passing arg 1 of `ieee80211_ioctl' from incompatible pointer type if_acxifnet.c:312: error: `IFF_RUNNING' undeclared (first use in this function) if_acxifnet.c:312: error: (Each undeclared identifier is reported only once if_acxifnet.c:312: error: for each function it appears in.) if_acxifnet.c: In function `acx_ifnet_init': if_acxifnet.c:366: error: structure has no member named `ic_if' if_acxifnet.c:369: error: `IFF_RUNNING' undeclared (first use in this function) if_acxifnet.c: In function `acx_ifnet_up': if_acxifnet.c:405: error: `IFF_RUNNING' undeclared (first use in this function) if_acxifnet.c:406: error: `IFF_OACTIVE' undeclared (first use in this function) if_acxifnet.c: In function `acx_ifnet_down': if_acxifnet.c:423: error: `IFF_RUNNING' undeclared (first use in this function) if_acxifnet.c:424: error: `IFF_OACTIVE' undeclared (first use in this function) if_acxifnet.c: In function `acx_ifnet_newstate': if_acxifnet.c:436: error: structure has no member named `ic_if' *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/ports/net/acx100/work/acx100. *** Error code 1 A few lines from 'if_acxifnet.c' showing line 58 which is where the first error is reported (line 58 is the last one shown): /* * attach a generic network interface to the system */ void acx_ifnet_attach(struct acx_softc *sc) { struct ieee80211com *ic; struct ifnet *ifp; /* extract some useful vars */ ic = &sc->ic; ifp = &ic->ic_if; The portversion number is: 20040701 I've tried 'locate ic_if' on an updated locate database; and I tried a google search for 'ic_if' which lead me to build /usr/ports/net/iwi-firmware but it didn't help. Also looked at http://dev.kewl.org/acx100/HEADER which mentions a discussion forum, but I can't seem to find it. Any help would be greatly appreciated. -- John. From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Tue May 16 02:15:07 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: mobile@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EDDB916A6DE for ; Tue, 16 May 2006 02:15:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from oceanare@pacific.net.sg) Received: from smtpgate4.pacific.net.sg (smtpgate4.pacific.net.sg [203.81.36.24]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id EB20343D53 for ; Tue, 16 May 2006 02:15:04 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from oceanare@pacific.net.sg) Received: (qmail 30439 invoked from network); 16 May 2006 02:15:02 -0000 Received: from maxwell6.pacific.net.sg (203.120.90.212) by smtpgate4.pacific.net.sg with SMTP; 16 May 2006 02:15:02 -0000 Received: from [192.168.0.107] ([210.24.123.195]) by maxwell6.pacific.net.sg with ESMTP id <20060516021501.EEEW1180.maxwell6.pacific.net.sg@[192.168.0.107]>; Tue, 16 May 2006 10:15:01 +0800 Message-ID: <44693597.1090007@pacific.net.sg> Date: Tue, 16 May 2006 10:14:47 +0800 From: Erich Dollansky Organization: oceanare pte ltd User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.2 (X11/20060501) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Anish Mistry References: <4468A0F9.6071.37FD6A10@dan.langille.org> <4468DF69.20702@ultra-secure.de> <20060515.141212.35690040.imp@bsdimp.com> <200605151710.39858.mistry.7@osu.edu> In-Reply-To: <200605151710.39858.mistry.7@osu.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: dan@langille.org, mobile@freebsd.org, rainer@ultra-secure.de, freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Laptop dead, suggestions? X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 16 May 2006 02:15:07 -0000 Hi, Anish Mistry wrote: > On Monday 15 May 2006 16:12, Warner Losh wrote: > I've got a 4 year old Fujitsu 2110 P-Series, (running -CURRENT) it I have an P2120 but > gets excellent battery life and is small and light. The P-7000's are my battery life with 5.2 was so low, at least compared to XP, that I moved back to XP. Does hibernation work? What are the tricks I missed? I have had longrun support but nothing more those days. Erich From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Tue May 16 02:15:12 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BB05216ABDE for ; Tue, 16 May 2006 02:15:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from oceanare@pacific.net.sg) Received: from smtpgate4.pacific.net.sg (smtpgate4.pacific.net.sg [203.81.36.24]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id E8DD243D4C for ; Tue, 16 May 2006 02:15:04 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from oceanare@pacific.net.sg) Received: (qmail 30439 invoked from network); 16 May 2006 02:15:02 -0000 Received: from maxwell6.pacific.net.sg (203.120.90.212) by smtpgate4.pacific.net.sg with SMTP; 16 May 2006 02:15:02 -0000 Received: from [192.168.0.107] ([210.24.123.195]) by maxwell6.pacific.net.sg with ESMTP id <20060516021501.EEEW1180.maxwell6.pacific.net.sg@[192.168.0.107]>; Tue, 16 May 2006 10:15:01 +0800 Message-ID: <44693597.1090007@pacific.net.sg> Date: Tue, 16 May 2006 10:14:47 +0800 From: Erich Dollansky Organization: oceanare pte ltd User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.2 (X11/20060501) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Anish Mistry References: <4468A0F9.6071.37FD6A10@dan.langille.org> <4468DF69.20702@ultra-secure.de> <20060515.141212.35690040.imp@bsdimp.com> <200605151710.39858.mistry.7@osu.edu> In-Reply-To: <200605151710.39858.mistry.7@osu.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: dan@langille.org, mobile@freebsd.org, rainer@ultra-secure.de, freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Laptop dead, suggestions? X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 16 May 2006 02:15:12 -0000 Hi, Anish Mistry wrote: > On Monday 15 May 2006 16:12, Warner Losh wrote: > I've got a 4 year old Fujitsu 2110 P-Series, (running -CURRENT) it I have an P2120 but > gets excellent battery life and is small and light. The P-7000's are my battery life with 5.2 was so low, at least compared to XP, that I moved back to XP. Does hibernation work? What are the tricks I missed? I have had longrun support but nothing more those days. Erich From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Tue May 16 02:55:03 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0F59916A428 for ; Tue, 16 May 2006 02:55:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gcorcoran@rcn.com) Received: from smtp01.lnh.mail.rcn.net (smtp01.lnh.mail.rcn.net [207.172.4.11]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 74D1143D53 for ; Tue, 16 May 2006 02:55:02 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from gcorcoran@rcn.com) Received: from 207-172-241-254.c3-0.tlg-ubr1.atw-tlg.pa.cable.rcn.com (HELO [10.56.78.130]) ([207.172.241.254]) by smtp01.lnh.mail.rcn.net with ESMTP; 15 May 2006 22:55:53 -0400 X-IronPort-AV: i="4.05,131,1146456000"; d="scan'208"; a="204528403:sNHT85562528" Message-ID: <446940C9.7040404@rcn.com> Date: Mon, 15 May 2006 23:02:33 -0400 From: Gary Corcoran User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.2 (Windows/20060308) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org References: <4468A0F9.6071.37FD6A10@dan.langille.org> <4468DF69.20702@ultra-secure.de> <20060515.141212.35690040.imp@bsdimp.com> <200605151710.39858.mistry.7@osu.edu> <44693597.1090007@pacific.net.sg> In-Reply-To: <44693597.1090007@pacific.net.sg> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Laptop dead, suggestions? X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 16 May 2006 02:55:03 -0000 Erich Dollansky wrote: > What are the tricks I missed? Why, WHY, oh *WHY*, do people change a post to the 'freebsd-foo' mailing list into _double_ posts to both 'freebsd-foo@freebsd' and 'foo@freebsd', which are the same thing ??? Warner's original post did not post to both names, so somebody who replied must've started the replication. This happens so often it is annoying, and I finally decided to complain so that maybe people will stop this practice. (and it doesn't help when the 'old-timers' on these lists, who should know better, blindly reply-all and keep up the replicated messages... ;-) ) Gary From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Tue May 16 02:59:22 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 42B5416A6C9 for ; Tue, 16 May 2006 02:59:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mistry.7@osu.edu) Received: from mail.united-ware.com (am-productions.biz [69.61.164.22]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8F91643D5C for ; Tue, 16 May 2006 02:59:20 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from mistry.7@osu.edu) Received: from [192.168.1.100] (am-productions.biz [69.61.164.22]) (authenticated bits=0) by mail.united-ware.com (8.13.4/8.13.6) with ESMTP id k4G2xoOA001650 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Mon, 15 May 2006 22:59:57 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from mistry.7@osu.edu) From: Anish Mistry To: Erich Dollansky Date: Mon, 15 May 2006 22:59:30 -0400 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.1 References: <4468A0F9.6071.37FD6A10@dan.langille.org> <200605151710.39858.mistry.7@osu.edu> <44693597.1090007@pacific.net.sg> In-Reply-To: <44693597.1090007@pacific.net.sg> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="nextPart2591287.gVQgvqy8lA"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=pgp-sha1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <200605152259.40874.mistry.7@osu.edu> X-Spam-Status: No, score=-5.5 required=5.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,BAYES_50, MYFREEBSD3 autolearn=failed version=3.1.0 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.0 (2005-09-13) on mail.united-ware.com X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV 0.88.2/1463/Mon May 15 06:55:22 2006 on mail.united-ware.com X-Virus-Status: Clean Cc: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Laptop dead, suggestions? X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 16 May 2006 02:59:23 -0000 --nextPart2591287.gVQgvqy8lA Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline On Monday 15 May 2006 22:14, you wrote: > Hi, > > Anish Mistry wrote: > > On Monday 15 May 2006 16:12, Warner Losh wrote: > > > > I've got a 4 year old Fujitsu 2110 P-Series, (running -CURRENT) > > it > > I have an P2120 but > > > gets excellent battery life and is small and light. The P-7000's > > are > > my battery life with 5.2 was so low, at least compared to XP, that > I moved back to XP. =46or me normal battery life is about the same, but I'm normally not=20 using Windows when it's unplugged. > > Does hibernation work? Yes, but there is still some strange drain while suspend issues that I=20 can't seem to figure out. > > What are the tricks I missed? You'll probably want to apply the acpi_video dpms patch that has been=20 floating around. It will mitigate some of the extra drain while=20 suspending issues. I don't suspend much anyway so for me it's not=20 much of a problem but I'd really like to figure it out. I think the=20 suspend issue might be specific to the 2110, as I haven't heard=20 anyone with a 2120 with that problem. ataidle also helps, to shut off the HD while it is idle. If you're=20 not using USB, Cardbus, firewire, etc don't load it, and make sure to=20 twiddle the pci power state sysctl. If you give it a go again, I'd love to know if your system exhibits=20 the power drain while suspended. eg. In windows I can leave the=20 laptop suspended for a day with only a percent or two drop, but in=20 =46reeBSD after 24 hours suspended the battery will be drained. I'm=20 pretty sure it's a driver issue, but without all the docs for the=20 components it's difficult to actually do anything about it. =2D-=20 Anish Mistry --nextPart2591287.gVQgvqy8lA Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.3 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQBEaUAcxqA5ziudZT0RAuAZAKCW0QbOfQi2KOwBkVru2J8+KufVPgCgroP5 1vkKP8MFKGqSQZcDjLdNUNE= =KQAH -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --nextPart2591287.gVQgvqy8lA-- From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Tue May 16 03:32:30 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 444AB16A479 for ; Tue, 16 May 2006 03:32:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from oceanare@pacific.net.sg) Received: from smtpgate4.pacific.net.sg (smtpgate4.pacific.net.sg [203.81.36.24]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 408EB43D70 for ; Tue, 16 May 2006 03:32:27 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from oceanare@pacific.net.sg) Received: (qmail 20488 invoked from network); 16 May 2006 03:32:25 -0000 Received: from maxwell2.pacific.net.sg (203.120.90.192) by smtpgate4.pacific.net.sg with SMTP; 16 May 2006 03:32:25 -0000 Received: from [192.168.0.107] ([210.24.123.195]) by maxwell2.pacific.net.sg with ESMTP id <20060516033224.UFDV28656.maxwell2.pacific.net.sg@[192.168.0.107]>; Tue, 16 May 2006 11:32:24 +0800 Message-ID: <446947BD.2060804@pacific.net.sg> Date: Tue, 16 May 2006 11:32:13 +0800 From: Erich Dollansky Organization: oceanare pte ltd User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.2 (X11/20060501) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Gary Corcoran References: <4468A0F9.6071.37FD6A10@dan.langille.org> <4468DF69.20702@ultra-secure.de> <20060515.141212.35690040.imp@bsdimp.com> <200605151710.39858.mistry.7@osu.edu> <44693597.1090007@pacific.net.sg> <446940C9.7040404@rcn.com> In-Reply-To: <446940C9.7040404@rcn.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Laptop dead, suggestions? X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 16 May 2006 03:32:30 -0000 Hi, Gary Corcoran wrote: > Erich Dollansky wrote: > >> What are the tricks I missed? > > > Why, WHY, oh *WHY*, do people change a post to the 'freebsd-foo' mailing > list > into _double_ posts to both 'freebsd-foo@freebsd' and 'foo@freebsd', which because it is confusing to have two lists for the same thing. I noticed this when I have had a question for a list I was not on. I did not know about the alias story until then. > lists, who should know better, blindly reply-all and keep up the replicated This could simple be avoided if the list manager would send out a proper 'reply-to' field. So, the direct reply would land always in the list and not at the writers desk. Not using 'reply all' confuses new members as they wonder why the list is not responding. Erich From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Tue May 16 04:51:20 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4A5C716A400 for ; Tue, 16 May 2006 04:51:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gcorcoran@rcn.com) Received: from smtp01.lnh.mail.rcn.net (smtp01.lnh.mail.rcn.net [207.172.4.11]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DA23B43D48 for ; Tue, 16 May 2006 04:51:19 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from gcorcoran@rcn.com) Received: from 207-172-241-254.c3-0.tlg-ubr1.atw-tlg.pa.cable.rcn.com (HELO [10.56.78.130]) ([207.172.241.254]) by smtp01.lnh.mail.rcn.net with ESMTP; 16 May 2006 00:52:11 -0400 X-IronPort-AV: i="4.05,131,1146456000"; d="scan'208"; a="204568189:sNHT22488084" Message-ID: <44695C0B.6090506@rcn.com> Date: Tue, 16 May 2006 00:58:51 -0400 From: Gary Corcoran User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.2 (Windows/20060308) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org References: <4468A0F9.6071.37FD6A10@dan.langille.org> <4468DF69.20702@ultra-secure.de> <20060515.141212.35690040.imp@bsdimp.com> <200605151710.39858.mistry.7@osu.edu> <44693597.1090007@pacific.net.sg> <446940C9.7040404@rcn.com> <446947BD.2060804@pacific.net.sg> In-Reply-To: <446947BD.2060804@pacific.net.sg> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Laptop dead, suggestions? X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 16 May 2006 04:51:20 -0000 Hi Erich, >> Why, WHY, oh *WHY*, do people change a post to the 'freebsd-foo' >> mailing list >> into _double_ posts to both 'freebsd-foo@freebsd' and 'foo@freebsd', >> which > > because it is confusing to have two lists for the same thing. Yes, it is. > I noticed > this when I have had a question for a list I was not on. I did not know > about the alias story until then. I wasn't trying to accuse you, or whomever, of trying to be bad. But I'm just curious: did you (or somebody), purposely post to the "two" lists, because you thought they were different? If so, that should either be clarified on the FreeBSD web pages, or perhaps the ones without "freebsd-" in the name should be eliminated? Or is the posting to both list names somehow happening "automatically", and if so by what bad software? >> lists, who should know better, blindly reply-all and keep up the >> replicated > > This could simple be avoided if the list manager would send out a proper > 'reply-to' field. So, the direct reply would land always in the list and > not at the writers desk. Yes, another list I'm on does this. In fact, I almost sent these emails to you alone, because they come in showing Sender: is owner-freebsd-mobile. So when doing a Reply-to-sender, one could expect it to go to the list! But as you said, it would require a 'reply-to' to be set to get the desired behavior. > Not using 'reply all' confuses new members as they wonder why the list > is not responding. I'm not suggesting not to use 'reply all'. I'm just asking people to take an extra 5 seconds to look at the To: list and trim the duplicate addresses, if they notice them... :) Thanks, Gary From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Tue May 16 05:01:31 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0809B16A406 for ; Tue, 16 May 2006 05:01:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from oceanare@pacific.net.sg) Received: from smtpgate1.pacific.net.sg (smtpgate1.pacific.net.sg [203.120.90.31]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id F297043D45 for ; Tue, 16 May 2006 05:01:29 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from oceanare@pacific.net.sg) Received: (qmail 26852 invoked from network); 16 May 2006 05:01:27 -0000 Received: from maxwell6.pacific.net.sg (203.120.90.212) by smtpgate1.pacific.net.sg with SMTP; 16 May 2006 05:01:27 -0000 Received: from [192.168.0.107] ([210.24.123.195]) by maxwell6.pacific.net.sg with ESMTP id <20060516050126.FGEL1180.maxwell6.pacific.net.sg@[192.168.0.107]>; Tue, 16 May 2006 13:01:26 +0800 Message-ID: <44695C97.9070804@pacific.net.sg> Date: Tue, 16 May 2006 13:01:11 +0800 From: Erich Dollansky Organization: oceanare pte ltd User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.2 (X11/20060501) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Gary Corcoran References: <4468A0F9.6071.37FD6A10@dan.langille.org> <4468DF69.20702@ultra-secure.de> <20060515.141212.35690040.imp@bsdimp.com> <200605151710.39858.mistry.7@osu.edu> <44693597.1090007@pacific.net.sg> <446940C9.7040404@rcn.com> <446947BD.2060804@pacific.net.sg> <44695C0B.6090506@rcn.com> In-Reply-To: <44695C0B.6090506@rcn.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Laptop dead, suggestions? X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 16 May 2006 05:01:42 -0000 Hi Gary, Gary Corcoran wrote: > >> I noticed this when I have had a question for a list I was not on. I >> did not know about the alias story until then. > > I wasn't trying to accuse you, or whomever, of trying to be bad. But no, I did not understand this that way. I just tried to share my very own experience. > I'm just curious: did you (or somebody), purposely post to the "two" > lists, because you thought they were different? If so, that should > either be clarified on the FreeBSD web pages, or perhaps the ones without > "freebsd-" in the name should be eliminated? Or is the posting to both > list names somehow happening "automatically", and if so by what bad > software? > freebsd on an e-mail address ending with freebsd.org is like wooden wood to me. > I'm not suggesting not to use 'reply all'. I'm just asking people to take > an extra 5 seconds to look at the To: list and trim the duplicate > addresses, > if they notice them... :) > This is another problem. I have currently four fields in the address section. It is an extra effort to scroll the fields. The laziness wins here to often. Erich From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Tue May 16 07:48:07 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: mobile@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DDF9616A409 for ; Tue, 16 May 2006 07:48:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from peterjeremy@optushome.com.au) Received: from mail28.syd.optusnet.com.au (mail28.syd.optusnet.com.au [211.29.133.169]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C140B43D60 for ; Tue, 16 May 2006 07:47:48 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from peterjeremy@optushome.com.au) Received: from turion.vk2pj.dyndns.org (c220-239-19-236.belrs4.nsw.optusnet.com.au [220.239.19.236]) by mail28.syd.optusnet.com.au (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id k4G7l5hW009874 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NO); Tue, 16 May 2006 17:47:09 +1000 Received: from turion.vk2pj.dyndns.org (localhost.vk2pj.dyndns.org [127.0.0.1]) by turion.vk2pj.dyndns.org (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id k4G7l5HJ000843; Tue, 16 May 2006 17:47:05 +1000 (EST) (envelope-from peter@turion.vk2pj.dyndns.org) Received: (from peter@localhost) by turion.vk2pj.dyndns.org (8.13.6/8.13.6/Submit) id k4G7l4BV000842; Tue, 16 May 2006 17:47:04 +1000 (EST) (envelope-from peter) Date: Tue, 16 May 2006 17:47:04 +1000 From: Peter Jeremy To: Warner Losh Message-ID: <20060516074704.GB714@turion.vk2pj.dyndns.org> Mail-Followup-To: Peter Jeremy , Warner Losh , bakul@bitblocks.com, dave@dogwood.com, mobile@freebsd.org References: <20060515.134800.48507830.imp@bsdimp.com> <20060515195959.4D3BE294B9@mail.bitblocks.com> <20060515.140525.70193103.imp@bsdimp.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20060515.140525.70193103.imp@bsdimp.com> X-PGP-Key: http://members.optusnet.com.au/peterjeremy/pubkey.asc User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.11 Cc: bakul@bitblocks.com, dave@dogwood.com, mobile@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Laptop dead, suggestions? X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 16 May 2006 07:48:08 -0000 On Mon, 2006-May-15 14:05:25 -0600, Warner Losh wrote: >From: Bakul Shah >Subject: Re: Laptop dead, suggestions? >Date: Mon, 15 May 2006 12:59:59 -0700 > >> > > Offer to blow it up and post video for donations? >> > >> > Hmmm, I like that idea... >> >> Another reason to buy a laptop with a magnesium case.... >> Though I suspect Mg alloys don't burn as brightly:-) > >Mg burns very brightly, but not nearly as exposively as Cs or Rb metal >in water! I haven't seen any laptops with Cs or Rb cases - they would be a bit too soft and heavy. For optimal results, burn the laptop in fluorine :-). Failing that, try LOx - you might be able to come up with something similar to the "Grilling with LOx" movies at http://www.doeblitz.net/ghg/ -- Peter Jeremy From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Tue May 16 16:58:02 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1DCA816A9AB for ; Tue, 16 May 2006 16:58:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from anderson@centtech.com) Received: from mh1.centtech.com (moat3.centtech.com [207.200.51.50]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2EF8343D86 for ; Tue, 16 May 2006 16:57:46 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from anderson@centtech.com) Received: from [10.177.171.220] (neutrino.centtech.com [10.177.171.220]) by mh1.centtech.com (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id k4GGvjXE053199; Tue, 16 May 2006 11:57:45 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from anderson@centtech.com) Message-ID: <446A048C.7040809@centtech.com> Date: Tue, 16 May 2006 11:57:48 -0500 From: Eric Anderson User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.2 (X11/20060506) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Bohdan Horst References: <445B506C.3060004@centtech.com> <445B9421.5070504@savvis.net> <20060505190013.GC796@aristo> In-Reply-To: <20060505190013.GC796@aristo> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV 0.87.1/1464/Tue May 16 04:36:19 2006 on mh1.centtech.com X-Virus-Status: Clean Cc: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Multiple mice (touchpad/bluetooth/etc) X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 16 May 2006 16:58:04 -0000 Bohdan Horst wrote: > On Fri, May 05, 2006 at 11:06:25AM -0700, Maksim Yevmenkin wrote: >> Eric Anderson wrote: >>> On my laptop, I have 2 mouse devices - one is the built in touchpad >>> (synaptics), and one is a bluetooth mouse. My touchpad has two buttons, >>> and my bluetooth mouse has many (9 I think). For my bluetooth mouse to >>> work, I need to have a line like this in my .xinitrc: >>> >>> xmodmap -e "pointer = 1 3 2 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13" >>> >>> Of course, that makes my second button on my touchpad be button three, >>> which I don't want. >>> >>> Is there any way to enable 3 button emulation on the touchpad, but not >>> on a usb mouse (the bluetooth one), and enable the button swapping on >>> the bluetooth one, but not on the touchpad? >> switch buttons in bthidd. please see bin/94577 for more details. >> > > touchpad with 2bt and usb mouse with 3bt(+roll) : > > > rc.conf: > > moused_enable="YES" > moused_ums0_flags="" > moused_flags="-3" > > > xorg.conf: > > Section "InputDevice" > Identifier "Mouse0" > Driver "mouse" > Option "Protocol" "auto" > Option "Device" "/dev/sysmouse" > Option "Buttons" "5" > Option "ZAxisMapping" "4 5" > EndSection > > > maybe this will help a little (i don't need button swapping..) > > > regards > That works great, thanks! Eric -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Eric Anderson Sr. Systems Administrator Centaur Technology Anything that works is better than anything that doesn't. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Tue May 16 17:45:56 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A3AB516ABB1 for ; Tue, 16 May 2006 17:45:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jeff.rollin@gmail.com) Received: from nz-out-0102.google.com (nz-out-0102.google.com [64.233.162.201]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6458C43D6A for ; Tue, 16 May 2006 17:45:53 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jeff.rollin@gmail.com) Received: by nz-out-0102.google.com with SMTP id 13so8802nzn for ; Tue, 16 May 2006 10:45:52 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=WInYTqaJf9mICk9OsUMq1kxG+WcvMyI1inKBb6iUcEsBe/tyg+Gy5Tv+AelCLhs2dZOftI/dZQaGV5vQlmTaTwg5aIbIdMhBA5ULLegY7mVVD2rv9ZE8Ad3ciLSls0FFiIQzwCA4kZCxpDppd2ZfLz66nGNnYceUY1yLEJ3j7Yw= Received: by 10.65.83.19 with SMTP id k19mr28050qbl; Tue, 16 May 2006 10:45:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.65.107.14 with HTTP; Tue, 16 May 2006 10:45:47 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <8a0028260605161045g6043edfaqe8bb03f6a1e44901@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 16 May 2006 18:45:47 +0100 From: "Jeff Rollin" To: "Kevin Oberman" In-Reply-To: <8a0028260605100727n67acdd35qfd1f25b15caee43f@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <8a0028260605090912re6b7f7bkb181bba64a0d9f5c@mail.gmail.com> <20060509164329.208F245042@ptavv.es.net> <8a0028260605100727n67acdd35qfd1f25b15caee43f@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: Gregers Petersen , freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Wireless woes X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 16 May 2006 17:45:56 -0000 No luck then, I take it? Jeff. On 10/05/06, Jeff Rollin wrote: > > > > On 09/05/06, Kevin Oberman wrote: > > > > > > To refresh my addled, post vacation brain: > > > > What version of FreeBSD? > > > 6.0-RELEASE (I had mentioned that I intended to replace it with 6.1 from > some ISO's but I think I'll wait until the wireless is working and upgrad= e > via cvsup) > > NEWCARD or OLDCARD kernel? > > > Um, you got me. The kernel the x86 OS comes with (FreeBSD 6.0-RELEASEi386= -GENERIC?) > > dmesg.boot file? > > > attached. > > kldstat output? > > > follows: > > 1 26 0xc0400000 63070c kernel > 2 16 0xc0a31000 568dc acpi.ko > 3 1 0xc1b12000 4000 logo_saver.ko > 4 2 0xc1b20000 9000 ibcs2.ko > 5 1 0xc1b2b000 3000 ibcs2_coff.ko > 6 1 0xc1b2f000 15000 linux.ko > 7 1 0xc209a000 e000 if_ath.ko > 8 1 0xc20a8000 3000 ath_rate.ko > 9 1 0xc20ab000 24000 ath_hal.ko > 10 1 0xc20d7000 3000 wlan_acl.ko > 11 1 0xc20da000 7000 wlan_ccmp.ko > 12 1 0xc20e1000 4000 wlan_tkip.ko > 13 1 0xc20e5000 3000 wlan_wep.ko > 14 1 0xc20e8000 2000 wlan_xauth.ko > > kernel configuration file? > > > attached. > > pciconf -vl output? > > > attached. > > Is any card seen when plugged into the card slot? > > > How do I check this? No lights ("Link" or "Active") come on when i inser= t > the card and do the "ifconfig dance" > > This is just a shot in the dark, but is device wlan in the kernel? > > > Yep. > > HTH > > Thanks. > > Jeff > > --=20 ------------------------------------------------------ Argument against Linux number 6,033: "...So this is like most Linux viruses. You have to download the virus yourself, become root, install it and then run it. Seems like a lot of work just to experience what you can get on Windows with a lot less trouble." From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Tue May 16 17:58:32 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0046916AECD; Tue, 16 May 2006 17:58:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rsf@ns.live555.com) Received: from ns.live555.com (ns.live555.com [66.80.62.34]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8F93243D6A; Tue, 16 May 2006 17:58:31 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from rsf@ns.live555.com) Received: from ns.live555.com (localhost.live555.com [127.0.0.1]) by ns.live555.com (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id k4GHwVvA020086; Tue, 16 May 2006 10:58:31 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from rsf@ns.live555.com) Received: (from rsf@localhost) by ns.live555.com (8.13.4/8.13.4/Submit) id k4GHwVA3020081; Tue, 16 May 2006 10:58:31 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from rsf) Message-Id: <7.0.1.0.1.20060516105535.01dafe98@live555.com> Message-Id: <7.0.1.0.1.20060515163433.01dc8008@live555.com> X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 7.0.1.0 Date: Tue, 16 May 2006 10:58:25 -0700 To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org, freebsd-net@freebsd.org From: Ross Finlayson Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Cc: Subject: Apparent 'resource' problems with "ath0" X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 16 May 2006 17:58:33 -0000 %cat /etc/motd FreeBSD 6.1-STABLE (GENERIC) #3: Tue May 9 19:36:33 PDT 2006 Problem #1 (yesterday): May 15 16:05:30 ns named[398]: client 66.80.0.9#1075: error sending response: not enough free resources May 15 16:05:38 ns last message repeated 2 times May 15 16:05:39 ns named[398]: client 66.80.0.9#1096: error sending response: not enough free resources May 15 16:05:47 ns last message repeated 2 times May 15 16:05:56 ns named[398]: client 66.80.0.9#1075: error sending response: not enough free resources May 15 16:05:58 ns named[398]: client 66.80.0.9#1075: error sending response: not enough free resources May 15 16:05:58 ns named[398]: client 66.80.0.9#1096: error sending response: not enough free resources %netstat -m 231/294/525 mbufs in use (current/cache/total) 106/156/262/8896 mbuf clusters in use (current/cache/total/max) 106/150 mbuf+clusters out of packet secondary zone in use (current/cache) 0/0/0/0 4k (page size) jumbo clusters in use (current/cache/total/max) 0/0/0/0 9k jumbo clusters in use (current/cache/total/max) 0/0/0/0 16k jumbo clusters in use (current/cache/total/max) 269K/385K/655K bytes allocated to network (current/cache/total) 0/0/0 requests for mbufs denied (mbufs/clusters/mbuf+clusters) 0/0/0 requests for jumbo clusters denied (4k/9k/16k) 0/4/2480 sfbufs in use (current/peak/max) 0 requests for sfbufs denied 0 requests for sfbufs delayed 0 requests for I/O initiated by sendfile 0 calls to protocol drain routines Problem #2 (today): May 16 10:53:00 ns dhcpd: send_packet: No buffer space available May 16 10:53:09 ns dhcpd: send_packet: No buffer space available May 16 10:53:29 ns named[398]: client 66.80.0.9#1290: error sending response: not enough free resources May 16 10:53:37 ns last message repeated 2 times May 16 10:53:55 ns dhcpd: send_packet: No buffer space available %netstat -m 364/161/525 mbufs in use (current/cache/total) 207/55/262/8896 mbuf clusters in use (current/cache/total/max) 207/49 mbuf+clusters out of packet secondary zone in use (current/cache) 0/0/0/0 4k (page size) jumbo clusters in use (current/cache/total/max) 0/0/0/0 9k jumbo clusters in use (current/cache/total/max) 0/0/0/0 16k jumbo clusters in use (current/cache/total/max) 505K/150K/655K bytes allocated to network (current/cache/total) 0/0/0 requests for mbufs denied (mbufs/clusters/mbuf+clusters) 0/0/0 requests for jumbo clusters denied (4k/9k/16k) 0/11/2480 sfbufs in use (current/peak/max) 0 requests for sfbufs denied 0 requests for sfbufs delayed 6 requests for I/O initiated by sendfile 483 calls to protocol drain routines Any ideas? (Is this a known issue that has been fixed since May 9th?) In each case, the client to named and/or dhcpd was using the "ath0" interface. Ross. From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Tue May 16 22:25:58 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: mobile@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7967316A54A for ; Tue, 16 May 2006 22:25:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from morganw@chemikals.org) Received: from ms-smtp-03.southeast.rr.com (ms-smtp-03.southeast.rr.com [24.25.9.102]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0803C43D53 for ; Tue, 16 May 2006 22:25:57 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from morganw@chemikals.org) Received: from volatile.chemikals.org (cpe-024-211-118-154.sc.res.rr.com [24.211.118.154]) by ms-smtp-03.southeast.rr.com (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id k4GMPqxU028334; Tue, 16 May 2006 18:25:54 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (morganw@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by volatile.chemikals.org (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id k4GMPn0L080797; Tue, 16 May 2006 18:25:52 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from morganw@chemikals.org) Date: Tue, 16 May 2006 18:25:49 -0400 (EDT) From: Wesley Morgan To: Warner Losh In-Reply-To: <20060515.104859.104060065.imp@bsdimp.com> Message-ID: <20060516181933.D80474@volatile.chemikals.org> References: <20060515.104859.104060065.imp@bsdimp.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Virus-Scanned: Symantec AntiVirus Scan Engine Cc: mobile@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Laptop dead, suggestions? X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 16 May 2006 22:26:01 -0000 On Mon, 15 May 2006, Warner Losh wrote: > Greetings, > > My Sony VAIO Z1W died this weekend at BSDcan. Both the hard dirve and > the laptop are dead. The hard drive doesn't spin up on about half a > dozen different machines and enclosures. The data is likely gone > forever, unless I can find a good data recovery place. > > So, I'm in the market for a new laptop. Unless someone is donating me > a decent one, I'd like it to have the following characteristics: > >= 1GHz speed > >= 512MB RAM > >= 40GB hard disk > Excellent battery life > light weight (< 4 pounds?) > decent scren > well constructed > PC Card slot > ExpressCard slot > SD card slot (with the standard SD host interface) > builtin wireless > > Does anybody have any recommendations? I love my Tecra M5 from Toshiba. Even though the sound, internal wireless, SD card, and pretty much all of the ACPI sleep functions don't work in FreeBSD, it's still a gorgeous lightweight powerhouse. Magnesium alloy cases are to die for. The way I figure it, eventually my devices will be supported, so the laptop just gets better with age! -- This .signature sanitized for your protection From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Wed May 17 12:37:14 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 390C916A403 for ; Wed, 17 May 2006 12:37:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kulminaator@gmail.com) Received: from wx-out-0102.google.com (wx-out-0102.google.com [66.249.82.207]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BA37F43D5F for ; Wed, 17 May 2006 12:37:06 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from kulminaator@gmail.com) Received: by wx-out-0102.google.com with SMTP id i31so154104wxd for ; Wed, 17 May 2006 05:37:05 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type; b=OpCF4VnQjmVGGHCwliliDUY0yMzI9Cy33OXlsSBdmYJPEzSAP5HNGsFeKrWkQdtVVpQ1J9d0SeWQMjhfwMhwH099xctR0gKdAkd5imXcwRU6OYGCrIARB9tFIXV8t5rW4L6Oho8e1vJ2H2meQ5UcsOdtXHnfuOrtjAMuBKX5k0c= Received: by 10.70.111.16 with SMTP id j16mr1149881wxc; Wed, 17 May 2006 05:37:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.70.68.6 with HTTP; Wed, 17 May 2006 05:37:05 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Wed, 17 May 2006 14:37:05 +0200 From: "Martin Roos" To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: Re: Laptop dead, suggestions? X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 17 May 2006 12:37:18 -0000 So for a decent laptop. My recent buy seems to be a good choice. Asus A6K, 1600mhz turion64 cpu (probably rated as 3000+ smth), default 512mb ram (i pushed this to 1gb), nvidia's graphics with 128mb of dedicated graphics ram (another 128mb can b= e borrowed from the operating system), tv-out 4x usb, firewire 60gb disk, 15.4" screen, a good one no complaints about the battery yet, weight ? hell do i know, i'm a big boy wifi (broadcom), sd card reader (works with windows), some kind of pc card slot (haven't researched which kind of slot this actually is, i don't need it. lan and sound infrared bluetooth parallel port ! (who's your daddy ... erm .. ee .. ) a relic builtin modem a builtin webcam which works over the usb interface (a driver for linux is in works, maybe when it's ready, we can port it to *bsd aswell) decent keyboard and touchpad (scrolling sidebar in the touchpad). > So, I'm in the market for a new laptop. Unless someone is donating me > > a decent one, I'd like it to have the following characteristics: > > >=3D 1GHz speed > > >=3D 512MB RAM > > >=3D 40GB hard disk > > Excellent battery life > > light weight (< 4 pounds?) > > decent scren > > well constructed > > PC Card slot > > ExpressCard slot > > SD card slot (with the standard SD host interface) > > builtin wireless > > > > Does anybody have any recommendations? > > > --=20 ########## Martin Roos From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Wed May 17 15:04:37 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5339F16AA54; Wed, 17 May 2006 15:04:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rsf@ns.live555.com) Received: from ns.live555.com (ns.live555.com [66.80.62.34]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C313843D73; Wed, 17 May 2006 15:04:36 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from rsf@ns.live555.com) Received: from ns.live555.com (localhost.live555.com [127.0.0.1]) by ns.live555.com (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id k4HF4ZYB001166; Wed, 17 May 2006 08:04:35 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from rsf@ns.live555.com) Received: (from rsf@localhost) by ns.live555.com (8.13.6/8.13.6/Submit) id k4HF4YJH001164; Wed, 17 May 2006 08:04:34 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from rsf) Message-Id: <7.0.1.0.1.20060517080119.01e00df8@live555.com> Message-Id: <7.0.1.0.1.20060516105535.01dafe98@live555.com> X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 7.0.1.0 Date: Wed, 17 May 2006 08:04:23 -0700 To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org, freebsd-net@freebsd.org From: Ross Finlayson Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Cc: Subject: More 'resource' problems with "ath0" X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 17 May 2006 15:04:51 -0000 The problems are occurring even with a very recently built kernel: %cat /etc/motd FreeBSD 6.1-STABLE (GENERIC) #0: Tue May 16 15:55:19 PDT 2006 May 17 07:53:22 ns dhcpd: send_packet: No buffer space available May 17 07:53:25 ns dhcpd: send_packet: No buffer space available May 17 07:53:35 ns named[382]: client 66.80.62.46#1026: error sending response: not enough free resources Note that client 66.80.62.46 is on "ath0". %netstat -m 188/337/525 mbufs in use (current/cache/total) 109/205/314/10688 mbuf clusters in use (current/cache/total/max) 109/147 mbuf+clusters out of packet secondary zone in use (current/cache) 0/0/0/0 4k (page size) jumbo clusters in use (current/cache/total/max) 0/0/0/0 9k jumbo clusters in use (current/cache/total/max) 0/0/0/0 16k jumbo clusters in use (current/cache/total/max) 265K/494K/759K bytes allocated to network (current/cache/total) 0/0/0 requests for mbufs denied (mbufs/clusters/mbuf+clusters) 0/0/0 requests for jumbo clusters denied (4k/9k/16k) 0/87/2928 sfbufs in use (current/peak/max) 0 requests for sfbufs denied 0 requests for sfbufs delayed 1904 requests for I/O initiated by sendfile 246 calls to protocol drain routines Any ideas? Has anyone else run into this problem? Is there anything else I can run (other than "netstat -m") to help diagnose this problem? Ross. From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Wed May 17 15:43:54 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2495B16A718 for ; Wed, 17 May 2006 15:43:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sam@errno.com) Received: from ebb.errno.com (ebb.errno.com [69.12.149.25]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AF6EE43D48 for ; Wed, 17 May 2006 15:43:53 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from sam@errno.com) Received: from [130.161.223.149] ([130.161.223.149]) (authenticated bits=0) by ebb.errno.com (8.13.6/8.12.6) with ESMTP id k4HFhoOs023260 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Wed, 17 May 2006 08:43:52 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from sam@errno.com) Message-ID: <446B44B0.5030908@errno.com> Date: Wed, 17 May 2006 17:43:44 +0200 From: Sam Leffler Organization: Errno Consulting User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.2 (Macintosh/20060308) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Ross Finlayson References: <7.0.1.0.1.20060517080119.01e00df8@live555.com> In-Reply-To: <7.0.1.0.1.20060517080119.01e00df8@live555.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-DCC-servers-Metrics: ebb.errno.com 1049; Body=2 Fuz1=2 Fuz2=2 Cc: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Subject: Re: More 'resource' problems with "ath0" X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 17 May 2006 15:43:54 -0000 Ross Finlayson wrote: > The problems are occurring even with a very recently built kernel: > > %cat /etc/motd > FreeBSD 6.1-STABLE (GENERIC) #0: Tue May 16 15:55:19 PDT 2006 > > May 17 07:53:22 ns dhcpd: send_packet: No buffer space available > May 17 07:53:25 ns dhcpd: send_packet: No buffer space available > May 17 07:53:35 ns named[382]: client 66.80.62.46#1026: error sending > response: not enough free resources > > Note that client 66.80.62.46 is on "ath0". > > %netstat -m > 188/337/525 mbufs in use (current/cache/total) > 109/205/314/10688 mbuf clusters in use (current/cache/total/max) > 109/147 mbuf+clusters out of packet secondary zone in use (current/cache) > 0/0/0/0 4k (page size) jumbo clusters in use (current/cache/total/max) > 0/0/0/0 9k jumbo clusters in use (current/cache/total/max) > 0/0/0/0 16k jumbo clusters in use (current/cache/total/max) > 265K/494K/759K bytes allocated to network (current/cache/total) > 0/0/0 requests for mbufs denied (mbufs/clusters/mbuf+clusters) > 0/0/0 requests for jumbo clusters denied (4k/9k/16k) > 0/87/2928 sfbufs in use (current/peak/max) > 0 requests for sfbufs denied > 0 requests for sfbufs delayed > 1904 requests for I/O initiated by sendfile > 246 calls to protocol drain routines > > Any ideas? Has anyone else run into this problem? > > Is there anything else I can run (other than "netstat -m") to help > diagnose this problem? Please do not cross-post. The transmit queue is full; you need to understand why. Basic info includes the card info (dmes|grep ath) and ifconfig output. It usually helps to explain how you make your problem to occur--if you can identify something you are doing. Past that there are tools in src/tools/tools such as ath/athstats for dumping the driver statistics. Sam From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Wed May 17 17:21:48 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 920BC16AB29 for ; Wed, 17 May 2006 17:21:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from maksim.yevmenkin@savvis.net) Received: from mailgate1b.savvis.net (mailgate1b.savvis.net [216.91.182.6]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8458A43D6D for ; Wed, 17 May 2006 17:21:44 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from maksim.yevmenkin@savvis.net) Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by mailgate1b.savvis.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DCC303BE75; Wed, 17 May 2006 12:21:43 -0500 (CDT) Received: from mailgate1b.savvis.net ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (mailgate1b.savvis.net [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 13107-01-72; Wed, 17 May 2006 12:21:43 -0500 (CDT) Received: from [10.254.186.111] (sntc04ep01.savvis.net [64.14.1.106]) by mailgate1b.savvis.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 537F23BE2E; Wed, 17 May 2006 12:21:43 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <446B5BA6.1070703@savvis.net> Date: Wed, 17 May 2006 10:21:42 -0700 From: Maksim Yevmenkin User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.2 (X11/20050404) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Eric Anderson References: <445B506C.3060004@centtech.com> <445B9421.5070504@savvis.net> <445BA9A8.6080702@centtech.com> In-Reply-To: <445BA9A8.6080702@centtech.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at savvis.net Cc: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Multiple mice (touchpad/bluetooth/etc) X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 17 May 2006 17:21:49 -0000 Eric Anderson wrote: > Maksim Yevmenkin wrote: > >> Eric Anderson wrote: >> >>> On my laptop, I have 2 mouse devices - one is the built in touchpad >>> (synaptics), and one is a bluetooth mouse. My touchpad has two >>> buttons, and my bluetooth mouse has many (9 I think). For my >>> bluetooth mouse to work, I need to have a line like this in my .xinitrc: >>> >>> xmodmap -e "pointer = 1 3 2 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13" >>> >>> Of course, that makes my second button on my touchpad be button >>> three, which I don't want. >>> >>> Is there any way to enable 3 button emulation on the touchpad, but >>> not on a usb mouse (the bluetooth one), and enable the button >>> swapping on the bluetooth one, but not on the touchpad? >> >> >> switch buttons in bthidd. please see bin/94577 for more details. > > > Thanks! I had to manually apply it to 6-stable, but once I did, it > works flawlessly.. Will it be mfc'ed? it was mfc'ed to releng_6 max From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Wed May 17 18:37:16 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: mobile@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AA52916B80F for ; Wed, 17 May 2006 18:37:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from imp@bsdimp.com) Received: from harmony.bsdimp.com (vc4-2-0-87.dsl.netrack.net [199.45.160.85]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9B4C043DDF for ; Wed, 17 May 2006 18:36:57 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from imp@bsdimp.com) Received: from localhost (localhost.village.org [IPv6:::1] (may be forged)) by harmony.bsdimp.com (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id k4HIaMH6070976 for ; Wed, 17 May 2006 12:36:22 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from imp@bsdimp.com) Date: Wed, 17 May 2006 12:36:22 -0600 (MDT) Message-Id: <20060517.123622.41703742.imp@bsdimp.com> To: mobile@freebsd.org From: Warner Losh X-Mailer: Mew version 3.3 on Emacs 21.3 / Mule 5.0 (SAKAKI) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Subject: Tablet PC and FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 17 May 2006 18:37:22 -0000 I think I may have found a good deal on the Toshiba R15 S829 tablet PC. I was wondering if anybody had any experiences with this machine running FreeBSD (or Linux) and/or the general hardware reliability of this machine. Thanks. Warner From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Wed May 17 19:10:09 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BB84616AA4D for ; Wed, 17 May 2006 19:10:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from imp@bsdimp.com) Received: from harmony.bsdimp.com (vc4-2-0-87.dsl.netrack.net [199.45.160.85]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9651B43D67 for ; Wed, 17 May 2006 19:10:06 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from imp@bsdimp.com) Received: from localhost (localhost.village.org [IPv6:::1] (may be forged)) by harmony.bsdimp.com (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id k4HJ9NKj071423; Wed, 17 May 2006 13:09:23 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from imp@bsdimp.com) Date: Wed, 17 May 2006 13:09:23 -0600 (MDT) Message-Id: <20060517.130923.104103765.imp@bsdimp.com> To: madkiss@madkiss.org From: Warner Losh In-Reply-To: <20060514000739.GA2456@martin-loschwitzs-computer.local> References: <20060514000739.GA2456@martin-loschwitzs-computer.local> X-Mailer: Mew version 3.3 on Emacs 21.3 / Mule 5.0 (SAKAKI) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Problems getting my pcmcia-card to work X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 17 May 2006 19:10:10 -0000 From: Martin Loschwitz Subject: Problems getting my pcmcia-card to work Date: Sun, 14 May 2006 02:07:39 +0200 > Hi all, I am desperately trying to get my pccard to work together with FreeBSD > 6.1. With all debug mechanisms enabled, this is what I see in the dmesg: > > cbb0: irq 23 at device 11.0 on pci2 > pcib2: cbb0 requested memory range 0xeb000000-0xed7fffff: good > cbb0: Lazy allocation of 0x1000 bytes rid 0x10 type 3 at 0xeb001000 > cbb0: Found memory at eb001000 > cbb0: Secondary bus is 0 > cbb0: Setting primary bus to 2 > cbb0: Secondary bus set to 3 subbus 4 > cardbus0: on cbb0 > pccard0: <16-bit PCCard bus> on cbb0 > ioapic0: routing intpin 23 (PCI IRQ 23) to vector 50 > cbb0: [MPSAFE] > cbb0: PCI Configuration space: > 0x00: 0x04751180 0x02100007 0x06070081 0x00022000 > 0x10: 0xeb001000 0x020000dc 0x20040302 0xfffff000 > 0x20: 0x00000000 0xfffff000 0x00000000 0xfffffffc > 0x30: 0x00000000 0xfffffffc 0x00000000 0x07000117 > 0x40: 0x00000000 0x00000001 0x00000000 0x00000000 > 0x50: 0x00000000 0x00000000 0x00000000 0x00000000 > 0x60: 0x00000000 0x00000000 0x00000000 0x00000000 > 0x70: 0x00000000 0x00000000 0x00000000 0x00000000 > 0x80: 0x00000001 0x00000000 0x04630463 0x00000000 > 0x90: 0x00000000 0x00000000 0x00000000 0x00000000 > 0xa0: 0x00000000 0x00000000 0x00000000 0x00000000 > 0xb0: 0x00000000 0x00000000 0x00000000 0x00000000 > 0xc0: 0x00000000 0x00000000 0x00000000 0x00000000 > 0xd0: 0x00000000 0x00000000 0x00000000 0xfe0a0001 > 0xe0: 0x24c04000 0x00000000 0x00000000 0x00000000 > 0xf0: 0x00000000 0x00000000 0x00000000 0x00000000 > ... > Status is 0x30000410 > cbb0: card inserted: event=0x00000000, state=30000410 > pccard0: chip_socket_enable > cbb_pcic_socket_enable: > cbb0: cbb_power: 5V > pccard0: read_cis > pcib2: pccard0 requested memory range 0xeb000000-0xed7fffff: good > cis mem map 0xe52a7000 (resource: 0xeb010000) > pccard0: CIS tuple chain: > CISTPL_END > ff > cis mem map e52a7000 > CISTPL_LINKTARGET expected, code ff observed > pccard0: check_cis_quirks > pccard0: Card has no functions! > cbb0: PC Card card activation failed This sounds like the region used for the reading of the CIS doesn't work for some reason. You should try another one. I believe this can be tweaked with the hw.cbb.start_memory sysctl. Warner From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Wed May 17 19:16:25 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E317E16AA45 for ; Wed, 17 May 2006 19:16:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from imp@bsdimp.com) Received: from harmony.bsdimp.com (vc4-2-0-87.dsl.netrack.net [199.45.160.85]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2FCE143D45 for ; Wed, 17 May 2006 19:16:25 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from imp@bsdimp.com) Received: from localhost (localhost.village.org [IPv6:::1] (may be forged)) by harmony.bsdimp.com (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id k4HJDIEK071499; Wed, 17 May 2006 13:13:18 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from imp@bsdimp.com) Date: Wed, 17 May 2006 13:13:18 -0600 (MDT) Message-Id: <20060517.131318.78779840.imp@bsdimp.com> To: gcorcoran@rcn.com From: Warner Losh In-Reply-To: <446940C9.7040404@rcn.com> References: <200605151710.39858.mistry.7@osu.edu> <44693597.1090007@pacific.net.sg> <446940C9.7040404@rcn.com> X-Mailer: Mew version 3.3 on Emacs 21.3 / Mule 5.0 (SAKAKI) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Laptop dead, suggestions? X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 17 May 2006 19:16:28 -0000 > Erich Dollansky wrote: > > > What are the tricks I missed? > > > Why, WHY, oh *WHY*, do people change a post to the 'freebsd-foo' mailing list > into _double_ posts to both 'freebsd-foo@freebsd' and 'foo@freebsd', which > are the same thing ??? Warner's original post did not post to both names, > so somebody who replied must've started the replication. This happens so > often it is annoying, and I finally decided to complain so that maybe people > will stop this practice. (and it doesn't help when the 'old-timers' on these > lists, who should know better, blindly reply-all and keep up the replicated > messages... ;-) ) there are some mail readers that are stupid that don't provide a nice clicky button to turn off their braindamanged behavior. They grab the X-Mail-List header, and use that in coming up with their reply. Once the messages are inserted into the list, others reply and compound the problem. I think Mutt was mentioned as being the problem. It is a well known problem, but the technical solution is kinda hard. Especially since the authors of the mail software are being difficult and not providing an override for this brain-damanged and wrong behavior. Warner From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Wed May 17 20:25:17 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1DC4E16A574 for ; Wed, 17 May 2006 20:25:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rsf@ns.live555.com) Received: from ns.live555.com (ns.live555.com [66.80.62.34]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5DA0443D5E for ; Wed, 17 May 2006 20:25:02 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from rsf@ns.live555.com) Received: from ns.live555.com (localhost.live555.com [127.0.0.1]) by ns.live555.com (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id k4HKP2Sk013373 for ; Wed, 17 May 2006 13:25:02 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from rsf@ns.live555.com) Received: (from rsf@localhost) by ns.live555.com (8.13.6/8.13.6/Submit) id k4HKP2Gv013372; Wed, 17 May 2006 13:25:02 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from rsf) Message-Id: <7.0.1.0.1.20060517125415.01e0f568@live555.com> X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 7.0.1.0 Date: Wed, 17 May 2006 13:02:24 -0700 To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org From: Ross Finlayson In-Reply-To: <446B44B0.5030908@errno.com> References: <7.0.1.0.1.20060517080119.01e00df8@live555.com> <446B44B0.5030908@errno.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Subject: Re: More 'resource' problems with "ath0" X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 17 May 2006 20:25:49 -0000 >Please do not cross-post. My apologies. Now that it's established that this problem is specific to the "ath" driver, and not to more general FreeBSD networking code, I'll restrict future postings to "freebsd-mobile" only. >The transmit queue is full; you need to understand why. Basic info >includes the card info (dmes|grep ath) and ifconfig output. I've seen the problem happen on two different machines, with two different interface cards (although both with Atheros chipsets): Machine1: %dmesg | fgrep ath ath_hal: 0.9.16.16 (AR5210, AR5211, AR5212, RF5111, RF5112, RF2413, RF5413) ath0: mem 0xe1020000-0xe102ffff irq 10 at device 18.0 on pci0 ath0: Ethernet address: 00:80:48:3c:6c:00 ath0: mac 10.5 phy 6.1 radio 6.3 %ifconfig ath0 ath0: flags=8843 mtu 1500 inet 66.80.0.4 netmask 0xfffffff0 broadcast 66.80.0.15 inet6 fe80::280:48ff:fe3c:6c00%ath0 prefixlen 64 scopeid 0x5 ether 00:80:48:3c:6c:00 media: IEEE 802.11 Wireless Ethernet autoselect mode 11b status: associated ssid LIVE555 channel 3 bssid 00:80:48:3c:6c:00 authmode OPEN privacy OFF txpowmax 38 protmode CTS burst dtimperiod 1 bintval 100 Machine 2: %dmesg|fgrep ath ath_hal: 0.9.16.16 (AR5210, AR5211, AR5212, RF5111, RF5112, RF2413, RF5413) ath0: mem 0x41400000-0x4140ffff irq 5 at device 9.0 on pci0 ath0: Ethernet address: 00:13:46:98:3b:13 ath0: mac 7.9 phy 4.5 radio 5.6 %ifconfig ath0 ath0: flags=8843 mtu 1500 inet 66.80.62.41 netmask 0xfffffff8 broadcast 66.80.62.47 inet6 fe80::213:46ff:fe98:3b13%ath0 prefixlen 64 scopeid 0x4 ether 00:13:46:98:3b:13 media: IEEE 802.11 Wireless Ethernet autoselect mode 11b status: associated ssid LIVE555 channel 3 bssid 00:13:46:98:3b:13 authmode OPEN privacy OFF txpowmax 36 protmode CTS burst dtimperiod 1 bintval 100 > It usually helps to explain how you make your problem to > occur--if you can identify something you are doing. No, unfortunately there's nothing specific that seems to reproduce this - just some communication to and/or from a remote client. > Past that there are tools in src/tools/tools such as ath/athstats > for dumping the driver statistics. If there's anything specific that I can run (at the time I see the problem) that may help identify the problem, please let me know. Thanks for taking the time to look into this. Ross. From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Wed May 17 20:32:28 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CB6BF16A787 for ; Wed, 17 May 2006 20:32:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from asstec@matik.com.br) Received: from msrv.matik.com.br (msrv.matik.com.br [200.152.83.14]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1EBB343D45 for ; Wed, 17 May 2006 20:32:27 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from asstec@matik.com.br) Received: from anb (anb.matik.com.br [200.152.83.34]) by msrv.matik.com.br (8.13.6/8.13.1) with ESMTP id k4HKWPLO089877; Wed, 17 May 2006 17:32:26 -0300 (BRT) (envelope-from asstec@matik.com.br) From: AT Matik Organization: Infomatik To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Date: Wed, 17 May 2006 17:32:17 -0300 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.1 References: <7.0.1.0.1.20060517080119.01e00df8@live555.com> In-Reply-To: <7.0.1.0.1.20060517080119.01e00df8@live555.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200605171732.18184.asstec@matik.com.br> X-Filter-Version: 1.11a (msrv.matik.com.br) X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV version 0.88, clamav-milter version 0.87 on msrv.matik.com.br X-Virus-Status: Clean Cc: Subject: Re: More 'resource' problems with "ath0" X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 17 May 2006 20:32:33 -0000 On Wednesday 17 May 2006 12:04, Ross Finlayson wrote: > May 17 07:53:35 ns named[382]: client 66.80.62.46#1026: error sending > response: not enough free resources > > Note that client 66.80.62.46 is on "ath0". > I saw this often on machines with network connection quality problems,=20 especially on wireless connections. Seems the bufferspace get full and then= =20 the error comes up which may cause service problems. The problem is more=20 frequent with udp traffic. normally you can workaround this by setting sysctls net.inet.udp.recvspace=3D65536 net.inet.udp.maxdgram=3D131072 or other values fitting to your needs Jo=E3o A mensagem foi scaneada pelo sistema de e-mail e pode ser considerada segura. Service fornecido pelo Datacenter Matik https://datacenter.matik.com.br From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Wed May 17 21:01:22 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3975016AB8A for ; Wed, 17 May 2006 21:01:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sam@errno.com) Received: from ebb.errno.com (ebb.errno.com [69.12.149.25]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C21FD43D48 for ; Wed, 17 May 2006 21:01:21 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from sam@errno.com) Received: from [10.0.0.175] (a80-126-106-146.adsl.xs4all.nl [80.126.106.146]) (authenticated bits=0) by ebb.errno.com (8.13.6/8.12.6) with ESMTP id k4HL1BOx025620 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Wed, 17 May 2006 14:01:20 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from sam@errno.com) Message-ID: <446B8F14.80502@errno.com> Date: Wed, 17 May 2006 23:01:08 +0200 From: Sam Leffler Organization: Errno Consulting User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.2 (Macintosh/20060308) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Ross Finlayson References: <7.0.1.0.1.20060517080119.01e00df8@live555.com> <446B44B0.5030908@errno.com> <7.0.1.0.1.20060517125415.01e0f568@live555.com> In-Reply-To: <7.0.1.0.1.20060517125415.01e0f568@live555.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-DCC-servers-Metrics: ebb.errno.com 1049; Body=2 Fuz1=2 Fuz2=2 Cc: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Subject: Re: More 'resource' problems with "ath0" X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 17 May 2006 21:01:22 -0000 Ross Finlayson wrote: > >> Please do not cross-post. > > My apologies. Now that it's established that this problem is specific > to the "ath" driver, and not to more general FreeBSD networking code, > I'll restrict future postings to "freebsd-mobile" only. > >> The transmit queue is full; you need to understand why. Basic info >> includes the card info (dmes|grep ath) and ifconfig output. > > I've seen the problem happen on two different machines, with two > different interface cards (although both with Atheros chipsets): > > Machine1: > %dmesg | fgrep ath > ath_hal: 0.9.16.16 (AR5210, AR5211, AR5212, RF5111, RF5112, RF2413, RF5413) > ath0: mem 0xe1020000-0xe102ffff irq 10 at device 18.0 on > pci0 > ath0: Ethernet address: 00:80:48:3c:6c:00 > ath0: mac 10.5 phy 6.1 radio 6.3 > > %ifconfig ath0 > ath0: flags=8843 mtu 1500 > inet 66.80.0.4 netmask 0xfffffff0 broadcast 66.80.0.15 > inet6 fe80::280:48ff:fe3c:6c00%ath0 prefixlen 64 scopeid 0x5 > ether 00:80:48:3c:6c:00 > media: IEEE 802.11 Wireless Ethernet autoselect mode 11b > status: associated > ssid LIVE555 channel 3 bssid 00:80:48:3c:6c:00 > authmode OPEN privacy OFF txpowmax 38 protmode CTS burst > dtimperiod 1 > bintval 100 > > Machine 2: > %dmesg|fgrep ath > ath_hal: 0.9.16.16 (AR5210, AR5211, AR5212, RF5111, RF5112, RF2413, RF5413) > ath0: mem 0x41400000-0x4140ffff irq 5 at device 9.0 on pci0 > ath0: Ethernet address: 00:13:46:98:3b:13 > ath0: mac 7.9 phy 4.5 radio 5.6 > > %ifconfig ath0 > ath0: flags=8843 mtu 1500 > inet 66.80.62.41 netmask 0xfffffff8 broadcast 66.80.62.47 > inet6 fe80::213:46ff:fe98:3b13%ath0 prefixlen 64 scopeid 0x4 > ether 00:13:46:98:3b:13 > media: IEEE 802.11 Wireless Ethernet autoselect mode 11b > status: associated > ssid LIVE555 channel 3 bssid 00:13:46:98:3b:13 > authmode OPEN privacy OFF txpowmax 36 protmode CTS burst > dtimperiod 1 > bintval 100 > > >> It usually helps to explain how you make your problem to occur--if >> you can identify something you are doing. > > No, unfortunately there's nothing specific that seems to reproduce this > - just some communication to and/or from a remote client. > >> Past that there are tools in src/tools/tools such as ath/athstats >> for dumping the driver statistics. > > If there's anything specific that I can run (at the time I see the > problem) that may help identify the problem, please let me know. > Are any of the stations associated to these systems operating in power save mode? Is there some reason you have the cards locked to 11b? If not, you should be able to let them operate in 11g. Sam From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Wed May 17 21:57:57 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A799F16A62A for ; Wed, 17 May 2006 21:57:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jhb@freebsd.org) Received: from server.baldwin.cx (66-23-211-162.clients.speedfactory.net [66.23.211.162]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6A4FA43D4C for ; Wed, 17 May 2006 21:57:56 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jhb@freebsd.org) Received: from disgraceful.corp.yahoo.com (disgraceful.corp.yahoo.com [216.145.53.7]) (authenticated bits=0) by server.baldwin.cx (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id k4HLvjPG019267 for ; Wed, 17 May 2006 17:57:46 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from jhb@freebsd.org) From: John Baldwin To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Date: Wed, 17 May 2006 14:54:03 -0700 User-Agent: KMail/1.7.1 References: <200605151710.39858.mistry.7@osu.edu> <446940C9.7040404@rcn.com> <20060517.131318.78779840.imp@bsdimp.com> In-Reply-To: <20060517.131318.78779840.imp@bsdimp.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200605171454.03315.jhb@freebsd.org> X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV 0.87.1/1467/Tue May 16 17:21:47 2006 on server.baldwin.cx X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.4 required=4.2 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,AWL,BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=3.1.0 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.0 (2005-09-13) on server.baldwin.cx Subject: Re: Laptop dead, suggestions? X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 17 May 2006 21:57:57 -0000 On Wednesday 17 May 2006 12:13, Warner Losh wrote: > > Erich Dollansky wrote: > > > What are the tricks I missed? > > > > Why, WHY, oh *WHY*, do people change a post to the 'freebsd-foo' mailing > > list into _double_ posts to both 'freebsd-foo@freebsd' and 'foo@freebsd', > > which are the same thing ??? Warner's original post did not post to both > > names, so somebody who replied must've started the replication. This > > happens so often it is annoying, and I finally decided to complain so > > that maybe people will stop this practice. (and it doesn't help when the > > 'old-timers' on these lists, who should know better, blindly reply-all > > and keep up the replicated messages... ;-) ) > > there are some mail readers that are stupid that don't provide a nice > clicky button to turn off their braindamanged behavior. They grab the > X-Mail-List header, and use that in coming up with their reply. Once > the messages are inserted into the list, others reply and compound the > problem. I think Mutt was mentioned as being the problem. > > It is a well known problem, but the technical solution is kinda hard. > Especially since the authors of the mail software are being difficult > and not providing an override for this brain-damanged and wrong > behavior. kmail. kmail doesn't provide the "clicky button" that I want. -- John Baldwin From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Wed May 17 22:38:53 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 051C016A618 for ; Wed, 17 May 2006 22:38:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from howells@kde.org) Received: from mail.devrandom.org.uk (host-84-9-223-82.bulldogdsl.com [84.9.223.82]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6828543D45 for ; Wed, 17 May 2006 22:38:52 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from howells@kde.org) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.devrandom.org.uk (Postfix) with ESMTP id DACFAFD04E for ; Wed, 17 May 2006 23:38:50 +0100 (BST) Received: from mail.devrandom.org.uk ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (mail.devrandom.org.uk [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 00177-01 for ; Wed, 17 May 2006 23:38:31 +0100 (BST) Received: from [192.168.0.9] (host-87-75-129-37.bulldogdsl.com [87.75.129.37]) (using TLSv1 with cipher EXP1024-RC4-SHA (56/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.devrandom.org.uk (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1EB78FD04D for ; Wed, 17 May 2006 23:38:31 +0100 (BST) From: Chris Howells Organization: K Desktop Environment To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Date: Wed, 17 May 2006 23:38:16 +0100 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.1 References: <200605151710.39858.mistry.7@osu.edu> <20060517.131318.78779840.imp@bsdimp.com> <200605171454.03315.jhb@freebsd.org> In-Reply-To: <200605171454.03315.jhb@freebsd.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="nextPart2059615.ARr8RqD0WB"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=pgp-sha1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <200605172338.20834.howells@kde.org> X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at devrandom.org.uk Subject: Re: Laptop dead, suggestions? X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 17 May 2006 22:38:53 -0000 --nextPart2059615.ARr8RqD0WB Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline On Wednesday 17 May 2006 22:54, John Baldwin wrote: > kmail. kmail doesn't provide the "clicky button" that I want. In KMail you can press 'L' for "Reply to mailing list". I find just=20 hitting "R" usually does the right thing though. =2D-=20 Cheers, Chris Howells -- chris@chrishowells.co.uk, howells@kde.org Web: http://www.chrishowells.co.uk, PGP ID: 0x33795A2C KDE/Qt/C++/PHP Developer: http://www.kde.org --nextPart2059615.ARr8RqD0WB Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.2.2 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQBEa6XcF8Iu1zN5WiwRAiKpAJ9kUuItSYMQvFJSbKNguVUut5xOMgCeL5kk 9CHKouultJ3TZQuFlwg2NlU= =utKb -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --nextPart2059615.ARr8RqD0WB-- From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Wed May 17 22:41:55 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6786A16AE30 for ; Wed, 17 May 2006 22:41:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rsf@ns.live555.com) Received: from ns.live555.com (ns.live555.com [66.80.62.34]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 799B043D66 for ; Wed, 17 May 2006 22:41:52 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from rsf@ns.live555.com) Received: from ns.live555.com (localhost.live555.com [127.0.0.1]) by ns.live555.com (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id k4HMfqC5056769 for ; Wed, 17 May 2006 15:41:52 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from rsf@ns.live555.com) Received: (from rsf@localhost) by ns.live555.com (8.13.6/8.13.6/Submit) id k4HMfpH9056766; Wed, 17 May 2006 15:41:51 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from rsf) Message-Id: <7.0.1.0.1.20060517153640.01e0f568@live555.com> X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 7.0.1.0 Date: Wed, 17 May 2006 15:40:56 -0700 To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org From: Ross Finlayson In-Reply-To: <446B8F14.80502@errno.com> References: <7.0.1.0.1.20060517080119.01e00df8@live555.com> <446B44B0.5030908@errno.com> <7.0.1.0.1.20060517125415.01e0f568@live555.com> <446B8F14.80502@errno.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Subject: Re: More 'resource' problems with "ath0" X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 17 May 2006 22:41:56 -0000 >Are any of the stations associated to these systems operating in power >save mode? No, I don't use power save mode. (One of the servers is at home, where all of its clients are plugged in to AC power. The other server is at a local coffee shop, where the owner wants to discourage people from camping there for hours :-) > Is there some reason you have the cards locked to 11b? If >not, you should be able to let them operate in 11g. In each case, the back-end Internet connection is only 1.5 Mbps, so the extra bitrate of 11g was not needed. However, on your suggestion, I'll try running both servers at 11g now. Ross. From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Wed May 17 23:25:28 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1DDE216B0FC for ; Wed, 17 May 2006 23:25:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jhb@freebsd.org) Received: from server.baldwin.cx (66-23-211-162.clients.speedfactory.net [66.23.211.162]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6D24443D5A for ; Wed, 17 May 2006 23:25:27 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jhb@freebsd.org) Received: from disgraceful.corp.yahoo.com (disgraceful.corp.yahoo.com [216.145.53.7]) (authenticated bits=0) by server.baldwin.cx (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id k4HNPO1p019776 for ; Wed, 17 May 2006 19:25:25 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from jhb@freebsd.org) From: John Baldwin To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Date: Wed, 17 May 2006 16:25:13 -0700 User-Agent: KMail/1.7.1 References: <200605151710.39858.mistry.7@osu.edu> <200605171454.03315.jhb@freebsd.org> <200605172338.20834.howells@kde.org> In-Reply-To: <200605172338.20834.howells@kde.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200605171625.13350.jhb@freebsd.org> X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV 0.87.1/1467/Tue May 16 17:21:47 2006 on server.baldwin.cx X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.4 required=4.2 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,AWL,BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=3.1.0 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.0 (2005-09-13) on server.baldwin.cx Subject: Re: Laptop dead, suggestions? X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 17 May 2006 23:25:30 -0000 On Wednesday 17 May 2006 15:38, Chris Howells wrote: > On Wednesday 17 May 2006 22:54, John Baldwin wrote: > > kmail. kmail doesn't provide the "clicky button" that I want. > > In KMail you can press 'L' for "Reply to mailing list". I find just > hitting "R" usually does the right thing though. If you use reply to all to one of the mailing lists, kmail ends up doing the dup, and when I filed a bug report about it, they refused to provide a global knob to turn the behavior off. -- John Baldwin From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Thu May 18 01:13:12 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 861AF16A678 for ; Thu, 18 May 2006 01:13:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@meijome.net) Received: from sigma.octantis.com.au (ns2.octantis.com.au [207.44.189.124]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 11C5F43D46 for ; Thu, 18 May 2006 01:13:11 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from freebsd@meijome.net) Received: (qmail 13335 invoked from network); 18 May 2006 11:13:10 +1000 Received: from 203-217-82-207.dyn.iinet.net.au (HELO localhost) (203.217.82.207) by sigma.octantis.com.au with (DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA encrypted) SMTP; 18 May 2006 11:13:10 +1000 Date: Thu, 18 May 2006 11:13:05 +1000 From: Norberto Meijome To: "Wilde, Donald" Message-ID: <20060518111305.3108bdaa@localhost> In-Reply-To: <040DF00BF960A24897B5B3EFBE63FE8A0240BEC9@ES20SNLNT.srn.sandia.gov> References: <040DF00BF960A24897B5B3EFBE63FE8A0240BEC9@ES20SNLNT.srn.sandia.gov> X-Mailer: Sylpheed-Claws 2.2.0 (GTK+ 2.8.17; i386-portbld-freebsd6.1) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Frank Altpeter , freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Subject: Re: change in iwi-firmware operation X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 18 May 2006 01:13:12 -0000 On Mon, 15 May 2006 07:44:34 -0600 "Wilde, Donald" wrote: > No, the iwi.sh did not get installed in /usr/local/etc/rc.d, although I > did have iwi_enable="YES" in rc.conf. Either that, or the nice little > helpful routine in mergemaster cleaned it out for me as one of those > "old" scripts that can cause "Very Bad Things" to happen... Hi :) pkg_info -L iwi-firmware* will show that the script installed by the port is /etc/rc.d/iwi I had the issue with mergemaster destroying it in the past (thank god for backups!), so I had moved it to /usr/local/etc/rc.d/iwi.sh . Since 6.1 and latest iwi port upgrade (I'm on iwi-firmware-2.4_7 now) * , i'm getting more a lot more lockups than before when bringing the card back up ( usually after a suspend/resume cycle). I'm testing a new set of custom scripts to load/unload if_iwi.ko for a full reset and see if this makes any different to stability. * lack of stability could also be caused in my case due to change of laptop( from Toshiba Tecra A2 to IBM thinkpad z60m...) Beto From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Thu May 18 01:18:11 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BC42B16A4CD for ; Thu, 18 May 2006 01:18:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jeff.rollin@gmail.com) Received: from py-out-1112.google.com (py-out-1112.google.com [64.233.166.177]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0F93A43D48 for ; Thu, 18 May 2006 01:18:10 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jeff.rollin@gmail.com) Received: by py-out-1112.google.com with SMTP id s49so538144pyc for ; Wed, 17 May 2006 18:18:10 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=tXEwtG2QOHu1Y+Ls+OtHaf/IMjoSRS3PZDn+RCe7wPPyCYW1e4Pj6oKX5BlhwnYVrNeSy0aKrnO+Y2X1dOP/wOOALf/gcA/jcpgx7qbP7DokhvNGisPJQaQRcnZd7Yui3XZY8Ojespct8SeTh+cjY4xXV3hqDx41WpOAqphpuio= Received: by 10.35.123.2 with SMTP id a2mr176855pyn; Wed, 17 May 2006 18:18:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.65.107.14 with HTTP; Wed, 17 May 2006 18:18:10 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <8a0028260605171818o726cd827nd1f9a60ff0384a62@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 18 May 2006 02:18:10 +0100 From: "Jeff Rollin" To: "Kevin Oberman" In-Reply-To: <8a0028260605161045g6043edfaqe8bb03f6a1e44901@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <8a0028260605090912re6b7f7bkb181bba64a0d9f5c@mail.gmail.com> <20060509164329.208F245042@ptavv.es.net> <8a0028260605100727n67acdd35qfd1f25b15caee43f@mail.gmail.com> <8a0028260605161045g6043edfaqe8bb03f6a1e44901@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: Gregers Petersen , freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Wireless woes X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 18 May 2006 01:18:11 -0000 Hi I just had a thought on this subject. Could the problem I'm having be due t= o not having the firmware/hal? I never thought to install anything since it works in SuSE 10.0 out of the box. Is there a firmware/hal package/port in ports? Jeff. > > > On 10/05/06, Jeff Rollin wrote: > > > > > > > > On 09/05/06, Kevin Oberman < oberman@es.net> wrote: > > > > > > > > > To refresh my addled, post vacation brain: > > > > > > What version of FreeBSD? > > > > > > 6.0-RELEASE (I had mentioned that I intended to replace it with 6.1 fro= m > > some ISO's but I think I'll wait until the wireless is working and > > upgrade via cvsup) > > > > NEWCARD or OLDCARD kernel? > > > > > > Um, you got me. The kernel the x86 OS comes with (FreeBSD 6.0-RELEASEi3= 86-GENERIC?) > > > > dmesg.boot file? > > > > > > attached. > > > > kldstat output? > > > > > > follows: > > > > 1 26 0xc0400000 63070c kernel > > 2 16 0xc0a31000 568dc acpi.ko > > 3 1 0xc1b12000 4000 logo_saver.ko > > 4 2 0xc1b20000 9000 ibcs2.ko > > 5 1 0xc1b2b000 3000 ibcs2_coff.ko > > 6 1 0xc1b2f000 15000 linux.ko > > 7 1 0xc209a000 e000 if_ath.ko > > 8 1 0xc20a8000 3000 ath_rate.ko > > 9 1 0xc20ab000 24000 ath_hal.ko > > 10 1 0xc20d7000 3000 wlan_acl.ko > > 11 1 0xc20da000 7000 wlan_ccmp.ko > > 12 1 0xc20e1000 4000 wlan_tkip.ko > > 13 1 0xc20e5000 3000 wlan_wep.ko > > 14 1 0xc20e8000 2000 wlan_xauth.ko > > > > kernel configuration file? > > > > > > attached. > > > > pciconf -vl output? > > > > > > attached. > > > > Is any card seen when plugged into the card slot? > > > > > > How do I check this? No lights ("Link" or "Active") come on when i > > insert the card and do the "ifconfig dance" > > > > This is just a shot in the dark, but is device wlan in the kernel? > > > > > > Yep. > > > > HTH > > > > Thanks. > > > > Jeff > > > > > > > -- > ------------------------------------------------------ > Argument against Linux number 6,033: > > "...So this is like most Linux viruses. You have to download the virus > yourself, become root, install it and then run it. Seems like a lot of wo= rk > just to experience what you can get on Windows with a lot less trouble." > --=20 ------------------------------------------------------ Argument against Linux number 6,033: "...So this is like most Linux viruses. You have to download the virus yourself, become root, install it and then run it. Seems like a lot of work just to experience what you can get on Windows with a lot less trouble." From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Thu May 18 01:20:21 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 65F8516A509 for ; Thu, 18 May 2006 01:20:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@meijome.net) Received: from sigma.octantis.com.au (ns2.octantis.com.au [207.44.189.124]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C68D543D72 for ; Thu, 18 May 2006 01:20:13 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from freebsd@meijome.net) Received: (qmail 13587 invoked from network); 18 May 2006 11:20:12 +1000 Received: from 203-217-82-207.dyn.iinet.net.au (HELO localhost) (203.217.82.207) by sigma.octantis.com.au with (DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA encrypted) SMTP; 18 May 2006 11:20:12 +1000 Date: Thu, 18 May 2006 11:20:07 +1000 From: Norberto Meijome To: Gary Corcoran Message-ID: <20060518112007.56c239f0@localhost> In-Reply-To: <446940C9.7040404@rcn.com> References: <4468A0F9.6071.37FD6A10@dan.langille.org> <4468DF69.20702@ultra-secure.de> <20060515.141212.35690040.imp@bsdimp.com> <200605151710.39858.mistry.7@osu.edu> <44693597.1090007@pacific.net.sg> <446940C9.7040404@rcn.com> X-Mailer: Sylpheed-Claws 2.2.0 (GTK+ 2.8.17; i386-portbld-freebsd6.1) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Subject: [OT] duplicated posts (Re: Laptop dead, suggestions?) X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 18 May 2006 01:20:21 -0000 On Mon, 15 May 2006 23:02:33 -0400 Gary Corcoran wrote: > Why, WHY, oh *WHY*, do people change a post to the 'freebsd-foo' mailing list > into _double_ posts to both 'freebsd-foo@freebsd' and 'foo@freebsd', which > are the same thing ??? :-) that's what I love about sylpheed-claws... deleting dupes is only 1 menu option away :-D From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Thu May 18 01:37:17 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: mobile@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 17DF916A403 for ; Thu, 18 May 2006 01:37:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@meijome.net) Received: from sigma.octantis.com.au (ns2.octantis.com.au [207.44.189.124]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9B8D843D48 for ; Thu, 18 May 2006 01:37:16 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from freebsd@meijome.net) Received: (qmail 14329 invoked from network); 18 May 2006 11:37:15 +1000 Received: from 203-217-82-207.dyn.iinet.net.au (HELO localhost) (203.217.82.207) by sigma.octantis.com.au with (DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA encrypted) SMTP; 18 May 2006 11:37:15 +1000 Date: Thu, 18 May 2006 11:37:10 +1000 From: Norberto Meijome To: Warner Losh Message-ID: <20060518113710.280266da@localhost> In-Reply-To: <20060515.104859.104060065.imp@bsdimp.com> References: <20060515.104859.104060065.imp@bsdimp.com> X-Mailer: Sylpheed-Claws 2.2.0 (GTK+ 2.8.17; i386-portbld-freebsd6.1) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: mobile@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Laptop dead, suggestions? X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 18 May 2006 01:37:17 -0000 On Mon, 15 May 2006 10:48:59 -0600 (MDT) Warner Losh wrote: > Greetings, > > My Sony VAIO Z1W died this weekend at BSDcan. Both the hard dirve and > the laptop are dead. The hard drive doesn't spin up on about half a > dozen different machines and enclosures. The data is likely gone > forever, unless I can find a good data recovery place. > > So, I'm in the market for a new laptop. Unless someone is donating me > a decent one, I'd like it to have the following characteristics: > >= 1GHz speed > >= 512MB RAM > >= 40GB hard disk > Excellent battery life > light weight (< 4 pounds?) > decent scren > well constructed > PC Card slot > ExpressCard slot > SD card slot (with the standard SD host interface) > builtin wireless I have now a Thinkpad Z60M , with titanium cover. ( http://www-8.ibm.com/lenovoinfo/products/i/heroes/au/hero_tp_z.jpg ) Full specs : http://www-604.ibm.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/content/misc_includes/en_AP/product_pop.jsp?storeId=10000036&catalogId=-36&langId=36&dualCurrId=-36&productId=4611686018425060077 Battery life is rated as 6 hrs, but actually *using it* goes up to 4 hours or so. Not a ligthweight (and the battery sticks out about an inch). FreeBSD 6.1. Sound still doesnt work . wireless works just fine (despite normal issues with iwi). fingerprint reader is shown in pciscan ,but not usable. good luck, beto From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Thu May 18 05:55:12 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 67DBF16A400 for ; Thu, 18 May 2006 05:55:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sam@errno.com) Received: from ebb.errno.com (ebb.errno.com [69.12.149.25]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B6AC543D53 for ; Thu, 18 May 2006 05:55:11 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from sam@errno.com) Received: from [10.0.0.153] (a80-126-106-146.adsl.xs4all.nl [80.126.106.146]) (authenticated bits=0) by ebb.errno.com (8.13.6/8.12.6) with ESMTP id k4I5spsj028414 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Wed, 17 May 2006 22:55:06 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from sam@errno.com) Message-ID: <446C0C22.4090700@errno.com> Date: Thu, 18 May 2006 07:54:42 +0200 From: Sam Leffler Organization: Errno Consulting User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.2 (Macintosh/20060308) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Ross Finlayson References: <7.0.1.0.1.20060517080119.01e00df8@live555.com> <446B44B0.5030908@errno.com> <7.0.1.0.1.20060517125415.01e0f568@live555.com> <446B8F14.80502@errno.com> <7.0.1.0.1.20060517153640.01e0f568@live555.com> In-Reply-To: <7.0.1.0.1.20060517153640.01e0f568@live555.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-DCC-Rhyolite-Metrics: ebb.errno.com 101; Body=2 Fuz1=2 Fuz2=2 Cc: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Subject: Re: More 'resource' problems with "ath0" X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 18 May 2006 05:55:12 -0000 Ross Finlayson wrote: > >> Are any of the stations associated to these systems operating in power >> save mode? > > No, I don't use power save mode. (One of the servers is at home, where > all of its clients are plugged in to AC power. The other server is at a > local coffee shop, where the owner wants to discourage people from > camping there for hours :-) Er, we're talking about wireless operation here, not acpi or similar. If the stations associated to the ap are operating in power save mode then they periodically put their wireless h/w into a power-saving sleep mode to reduce the drain on the battery. In this mode the ap has to buffer frames for the client. I'm aware of one outstanding issue with this mode whereby frames (apparently) can be stuck on the buffering q because the beacon frame stops being transmitted. This problem is currently unresolved (however you would also see messages on the ap about "transmit timeout"). I don't recall if stations associated with power save are marked in the display shown by ifconfig ath0 list sta If not then turning on power debug msgs at the 802.11 layer with wlandebug; e.g. wlandebug -i ath0 power will definitely show whether any are present (use wlandebug -i ath0 0 after to reset). > >> Is there some reason you have the cards locked to 11b? If >> not, you should be able to let them operate in 11g. > > In each case, the back-end Internet connection is only 1.5 Mbps, so the > extra bitrate of 11g was not needed. However, on your suggestion, I'll > try running both servers at 11g now. It should not matter but 11g is the typical usage and if clients are confused by being forced to operate in 11b the problem may go away. Sam From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Thu May 18 06:27:20 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6977716A400 for ; Thu, 18 May 2006 06:27:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rsf@ns.live555.com) Received: from ns.live555.com (ns.live555.com [66.80.62.34]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E4CAD43D46 for ; Thu, 18 May 2006 06:27:19 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from rsf@ns.live555.com) Received: from ns.live555.com (localhost.live555.com [127.0.0.1]) by ns.live555.com (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id k4I6RIIZ013591 for ; Wed, 17 May 2006 23:27:18 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from rsf@ns.live555.com) Received: (from rsf@localhost) by ns.live555.com (8.13.6/8.13.6/Submit) id k4I6RITO013584; Wed, 17 May 2006 23:27:18 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from rsf) Message-Id: <7.0.1.0.1.20060517230855.01ddd570@live555.com> X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 7.0.1.0 Date: Wed, 17 May 2006 23:27:09 -0700 To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org From: Ross Finlayson In-Reply-To: <446C0C22.4090700@errno.com> References: <7.0.1.0.1.20060517080119.01e00df8@live555.com> <446B44B0.5030908@errno.com> <7.0.1.0.1.20060517125415.01e0f568@live555.com> <446B8F14.80502@errno.com> <7.0.1.0.1.20060517153640.01e0f568@live555.com> <446C0C22.4090700@errno.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Subject: Re: More 'resource' problems with "ath0" X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 18 May 2006 06:27:20 -0000 > > No, I don't use power save mode. (One of the servers is at home, where > > all of its clients are plugged in to AC power. The other server is at a > > local coffee shop, where the owner wants to discourage people from > > camping there for hours :-) > >Er, we're talking about wireless operation here So was I :-) >If the stations associated to the ap are operating in power save mode If the *access point* is not explicitly configured to use power save mode - which it's not - then will the clients still get power save mode if they ask for it? I thought that the access point made the final decision as to whether power save mode was used? But maybe I'm wrong about that :-) >buffer frames for the client. I'm aware of one outstanding issue with >this mode whereby frames (apparently) can be stuck on the buffering q >because the beacon frame stops being transmitted. This problem is >currently unresolved (however you would also see messages on the ap >about "transmit timeout"). I have never seen any "transmit timeout" messages, but several "ath0: device timeout" messages. >I don't recall if stations associated with power save are marked in the >display shown by > >ifconfig ath0 list sta I don't think so: %ifconfig ath0 list sta ADDR AID CHAN RATE RSSI IDLE TXSEQ RXSEQ CAPS ERP 00:14:51:ef:b9:72 1 3 5M 17 120 33078 12512 ES 0 00:12:f0:ba:59:f2 2 3 1M 18 120 22933 63680 ES 0 The second client (00:12:f0:ba:59:f2) requests power save mode - but I see no indication of that. >If not then turning on power debug msgs at the 802.11 layer with >wlandebug; e.g. > >wlandebug -i ath0 power When I do this, I get: ath0: [00:12:f0:ba:59:f2] save frame with age 3, 1 now queued ath0: [00:12:f0:ba:59:f2] power save mode off, 0 sta's in ps mode ath0: [00:12:f0:ba:59:f2] flush ps queue, 1 packets queued ath0: [00:12:f0:ba:59:f2] power save mode on, 1 sta's in ps mode ath0: [00:12:f0:ba:59:f2] save frame with age 3, 1 now queued ath0: ieee80211_beacon_update: TIM updated, pending 1, off 0, len 1 ath0: [00:12:f0:ba:59:f2] power save mode off, 0 sta's in ps mode ath0: [00:12:f0:ba:59:f2] flush ps queue, 1 packets queued ath0: ieee80211_beacon_update: TIM updated, pending 0, off 0, len 1 ath0: [00:12:f0:ba:59:f2] power save mode on, 1 sta's in ps mode ath0: [00:12:f0:ba:59:f2] power save mode off, 0 sta's in ps mode ath0: [00:12:f0:ba:59:f2] power save mode on, 1 sta's in ps mode ath0: [00:12:f0:ba:59:f2] power save mode off, 0 sta's in ps mode ath0: [00:12:f0:ba:59:f2] power save mode on, 1 sta's in ps mode ath0: [00:12:f0:ba:59:f2] power save mode off, 0 sta's in ps mode ath0: [00:12:f0:ba:59:f2] power save mode on, 1 sta's in ps mode ath0: [00:12:f0:ba:59:f2] power save mode off, 0 sta's in ps mode ath0: [00:12:f0:ba:59:f2] power save mode on, 1 sta's in ps mode ath0: [00:12:f0:ba:59:f2] power save mode off, 0 sta's in ps mode (with the last two lines being repeated indefinitely) >will definitely show whether any are present (use wlandebug -i ath0 0 >after to reset). > > > > >> Is there some reason you have the cards locked to 11b? If > >> not, you should be able to let them operate in 11g. > > > > In each case, the back-end Internet connection is only 1.5 Mbps, so the > > extra bitrate of 11g was not needed. However, on your suggestion, I'll > > try running both servers at 11g now. > >It should not matter but 11g is the typical usage and if clients are >confused by being forced to operate in 11b the problem may go away. So far I have not seen the problem recur after I switched to using 11g. So I'm keeping my fingers crossed... Ross. From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Thu May 18 06:37:40 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2732A16A400 for ; Thu, 18 May 2006 06:37:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from robert@guldan.demon.nl) Received: from post-23.mail.nl.demon.net (post-23.mail.nl.demon.net [194.159.73.193]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AE39D43D46 for ; Thu, 18 May 2006 06:37:39 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from robert@guldan.demon.nl) Received: from guldan-dsl.demon.nl ([83.160.7.100]:50792) by post-23.mail.nl.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1Fgc8g-000JTR-AM; Thu, 18 May 2006 06:37:38 +0000 Received: from bombur.guldan.demon.nl ([192.168.201.3] helo=localhost) by guldan-dsl.demon.nl with esmtp (Exim 4.24; FreeBSD) id 1Fgc8d-0006Xl-87; Thu, 18 May 2006 08:37:35 +0200 Date: Thu, 18 May 2006 08:37:35 +0200 From: Robert Blacquiere To: Jeff Rollin Message-ID: <20060518063735.GN7154@bombur.guldan.demon.nl> References: <8a0028260605090912re6b7f7bkb181bba64a0d9f5c@mail.gmail.com> <20060509164329.208F245042@ptavv.es.net> <8a0028260605100727n67acdd35qfd1f25b15caee43f@mail.gmail.com> <8a0028260605161045g6043edfaqe8bb03f6a1e44901@mail.gmail.com> <8a0028260605171818o726cd827nd1f9a60ff0384a62@mail.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <8a0028260605171818o726cd827nd1f9a60ff0384a62@mail.gmail.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i X-Disclaimer: running FreeBSD X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) Cc: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Wireless woes X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 18 May 2006 06:37:40 -0000 On Thu, May 18, 2006 at 02:18:10AM +0100, Jeff Rollin wrote: > Hi > > I just had a thought on this subject. Could the problem I'm having be due to > not having the firmware/hal? I never thought to install anything since it > works in SuSE 10.0 out of the box. Is there a firmware/hal package/port in > ports? > > Jeff. > Hi jeff, You don't have a atheros based wireless device. It seems that you have a broadcom wireless device: none4@pci2:5:0: class=0x028000 card=0x000617f9 chip=0x431814e4 rev=0x02 hdr=0x00 vendor = 'Broadcom Corporation' class = network This is probably your wireless device. Robert -- Microsoft: Where do you want to go today? Linux: Where do you want to go tomorrow? FreeBSD: Are you guys coming or what? OpenBSD: Hey guys you left some holes out there! From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Thu May 18 06:48:11 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8110016A403 for ; Thu, 18 May 2006 06:48:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gp.ioa@cbs.dk) Received: from mail.cbs.dk (mail.cbs.dk [130.226.47.171]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 18B3343D49 for ; Thu, 18 May 2006 06:48:11 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from gp.ioa@cbs.dk) Received: from [172.17.30.95] by proxy1.cbs.dk (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 Patch 2 (built Jul 14 2004)) with ESMTPA id <0IZG00JME888UZ@proxy1.cbs.dk> for freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org; Thu, 18 May 2006 08:48:09 +0200 (MEST) Date: Thu, 18 May 2006 08:48:17 +0200 From: Gregers Petersen In-reply-to: <20060518063735.GN7154@bombur.guldan.demon.nl> To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Message-id: <446C18B1.3090207@cbs.dk> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5 (X11/20060127) References: <8a0028260605090912re6b7f7bkb181bba64a0d9f5c@mail.gmail.com> <20060509164329.208F245042@ptavv.es.net> <8a0028260605100727n67acdd35qfd1f25b15caee43f@mail.gmail.com> <8a0028260605161045g6043edfaqe8bb03f6a1e44901@mail.gmail.com> <8a0028260605171818o726cd827nd1f9a60ff0384a62@mail.gmail.com> <20060518063735.GN7154@bombur.guldan.demon.nl> Subject: Re: Wireless woes X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 18 May 2006 06:48:11 -0000 Robert Blacquiere wrote: > Hi jeff, > > You don't have a atheros based wireless device. It seems that you have a > broadcom wireless device: > > none4@pci2:5:0: class=0x028000 card=0x000617f9 chip=0x431814e4 rev=0x02 > hdr=0x00 > vendor = 'Broadcom Corporation' > class = network > > This is probably your wireless device. > > Robert > Is there a '+' added to your model-name on the PC-card (and no mentioning of Extreme G), such as: DWL-650+ If that is the case, the you don't have an Atheros card :-/ (and then it's needed to go the NDIS way) -- Gregers Petersen From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Thu May 18 07:35:37 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9B50316A413 for ; Thu, 18 May 2006 07:35:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sam@errno.com) Received: from ebb.errno.com (ebb.errno.com [69.12.149.25]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B97E043D6D for ; Thu, 18 May 2006 07:35:30 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from sam@errno.com) Received: from [130.161.223.149] ([130.161.223.149]) (authenticated bits=0) by ebb.errno.com (8.13.6/8.12.6) with ESMTP id k4I7ZQfc028762 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Thu, 18 May 2006 00:35:29 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from sam@errno.com) Message-ID: <446C23C0.8030501@errno.com> Date: Thu, 18 May 2006 09:35:28 +0200 From: Sam Leffler Organization: Errno Consulting User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.2 (Macintosh/20060308) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Ross Finlayson References: <7.0.1.0.1.20060517080119.01e00df8@live555.com> <446B44B0.5030908@errno.com> <7.0.1.0.1.20060517125415.01e0f568@live555.com> <446B8F14.80502@errno.com> <7.0.1.0.1.20060517153640.01e0f568@live555.com> <446C0C22.4090700@errno.com> <7.0.1.0.1.20060517230855.01ddd570@live555.com> In-Reply-To: <7.0.1.0.1.20060517230855.01ddd570@live555.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-DCC-servers-Metrics: ebb.errno.com 1049; Body=2 Fuz1=2 Fuz2=2 Cc: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Subject: Re: More 'resource' problems with "ath0" X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 18 May 2006 07:35:38 -0000 Ross Finlayson wrote: > >> > No, I don't use power save mode. (One of the servers is at home, where >> > all of its clients are plugged in to AC power. The other server is >> at a >> > local coffee shop, where the owner wants to discourage people from >> > camping there for hours :-) >> >> Er, we're talking about wireless operation here > > So was I :-) > >> If the stations associated to the ap are operating in power save mode > > If the *access point* is not explicitly configured to use power save > mode - which it's not - then will the clients still get power save mode > if they ask for it? I thought that the access point made the final > decision as to whether power save mode was used? But maybe I'm wrong > about that :-) Power save support is required by any ap that follows the standard and there is no way to disable it (at the moment). > >> buffer frames for the client. I'm aware of one outstanding issue with >> this mode whereby frames (apparently) can be stuck on the buffering q >> because the beacon frame stops being transmitted. This problem is >> currently unresolved (however you would also see messages on the ap >> about "transmit timeout"). > > I have never seen any "transmit timeout" messages, but several "ath0: > device timeout" messages. Same thing if I recall (this is from memory). > >> I don't recall if stations associated with power save are marked in the >> display shown by >> >> ifconfig ath0 list sta > > I don't think so: > > %ifconfig ath0 list sta > ADDR AID CHAN RATE RSSI IDLE TXSEQ RXSEQ CAPS ERP > 00:14:51:ef:b9:72 1 3 5M 17 120 33078 12512 ES 0 > 00:12:f0:ba:59:f2 2 3 1M 18 120 22933 63680 ES 0 > > The second client (00:12:f0:ba:59:f2) requests power save mode - but I > see no indication of that. > >> If not then turning on power debug msgs at the 802.11 layer with >> wlandebug; e.g. >> >> wlandebug -i ath0 power > > When I do this, I get: > > ath0: [00:12:f0:ba:59:f2] save frame with age 3, 1 now queued > ath0: [00:12:f0:ba:59:f2] power save mode off, 0 sta's in ps mode > ath0: [00:12:f0:ba:59:f2] flush ps queue, 1 packets queued > ath0: [00:12:f0:ba:59:f2] power save mode on, 1 sta's in ps mode > ath0: [00:12:f0:ba:59:f2] save frame with age 3, 1 now queued > ath0: ieee80211_beacon_update: TIM updated, pending 1, off 0, len 1 > ath0: [00:12:f0:ba:59:f2] power save mode off, 0 sta's in ps mode > ath0: [00:12:f0:ba:59:f2] flush ps queue, 1 packets queued > ath0: ieee80211_beacon_update: TIM updated, pending 0, off 0, len 1 > ath0: [00:12:f0:ba:59:f2] power save mode on, 1 sta's in ps mode > ath0: [00:12:f0:ba:59:f2] power save mode off, 0 sta's in ps mode > ath0: [00:12:f0:ba:59:f2] power save mode on, 1 sta's in ps mode > ath0: [00:12:f0:ba:59:f2] power save mode off, 0 sta's in ps mode > ath0: [00:12:f0:ba:59:f2] power save mode on, 1 sta's in ps mode > ath0: [00:12:f0:ba:59:f2] power save mode off, 0 sta's in ps mode > ath0: [00:12:f0:ba:59:f2] power save mode on, 1 sta's in ps mode > ath0: [00:12:f0:ba:59:f2] power save mode off, 0 sta's in ps mode > ath0: [00:12:f0:ba:59:f2] power save mode on, 1 sta's in ps mode > ath0: [00:12:f0:ba:59:f2] power save mode off, 0 sta's in ps mode > > (with the last two lines being repeated indefinitely) > > >> will definitely show whether any are present (use wlandebug -i ath0 0 >> after to reset). >> >> > >> >> Is there some reason you have the cards locked to 11b? If >> >> not, you should be able to let them operate in 11g. >> > >> > In each case, the back-end Internet connection is only 1.5 Mbps, so the >> > extra bitrate of 11g was not needed. However, on your suggestion, I'll >> > try running both servers at 11g now. >> >> It should not matter but 11g is the typical usage and if clients are >> confused by being forced to operate in 11b the problem may go away. > > So far I have not seen the problem recur after I switched to using 11g. > So I'm keeping my fingers crossed... So your clients are operating in ps mode and this may be the same issue seen by one other person. I'm working on it but am traveling right now so nothing will happen for a while (and it's also hard to reproduce). Sam From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Thu May 18 10:04:33 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3EB6516A403 for ; Thu, 18 May 2006 10:04:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jeff.rollin@gmail.com) Received: from nz-out-0102.google.com (nz-out-0102.google.com [64.233.162.200]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 42C8143D46 for ; Thu, 18 May 2006 10:04:31 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jeff.rollin@gmail.com) Received: by nz-out-0102.google.com with SMTP id 13so443202nzn for ; Thu, 18 May 2006 03:04:31 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=ZgDw85YmTeyE6bBKbMNAAlYZbXVVPf1h3RpdOO5lueS1gayKxPWpuzf0tPYGtzSSuWwMFY6jF4MrD7isLgybk2nuuDpjTyQb0wxjExbf+Fs7ZNLOz5FAl5YnYyNWbsshlnFReejwHhFTiu4p3Stad0TcHkystbdcNCPn3jrpr7k= Received: by 10.65.220.17 with SMTP id x17mr181125qbq; Thu, 18 May 2006 03:04:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.65.107.14 with HTTP; Thu, 18 May 2006 03:04:31 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <8a0028260605180304u15e49fd2v2bdd88fa666f19a5@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 18 May 2006 11:04:31 +0100 From: "Jeff Rollin" To: "Robert Blacquiere" In-Reply-To: <20060518063735.GN7154@bombur.guldan.demon.nl> MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <8a0028260605090912re6b7f7bkb181bba64a0d9f5c@mail.gmail.com> <20060509164329.208F245042@ptavv.es.net> <8a0028260605100727n67acdd35qfd1f25b15caee43f@mail.gmail.com> <8a0028260605161045g6043edfaqe8bb03f6a1e44901@mail.gmail.com> <8a0028260605171818o726cd827nd1f9a60ff0384a62@mail.gmail.com> <20060518063735.GN7154@bombur.guldan.demon.nl> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Wireless woes X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 18 May 2006 10:04:33 -0000 Robert, Yes, that's the internal one. The one I'm configuring is external, Cardbus-type. It's definitely atheros-based. Jeff On 18/05/06, Robert Blacquiere wrote: > > On Thu, May 18, 2006 at 02:18:10AM +0100, Jeff Rollin wrote: > > Hi > > > > I just had a thought on this subject. Could the problem I'm having be > due to > > not having the firmware/hal? I never thought to install anything since > it > > works in SuSE 10.0 out of the box. Is there a firmware/hal package/port > in > > ports? > > > > Jeff. > > > > > Hi jeff, > > You don't have a atheros based wireless device. It seems that you have a > broadcom wireless device: > > none4@pci2:5:0: class=3D0x028000 card=3D0x000617f9 chip=3D0x431814e4 rev= =3D0x02 > hdr=3D0x00 > vendor =3D 'Broadcom Corporation' > class =3D network > > This is probably your wireless device. > > Robert > > -- > Microsoft: Where do you want to go today? > Linux: Where do you want to go tomorrow? > FreeBSD: Are you guys coming or what? > OpenBSD: Hey guys you left some holes out there! > --=20 ------------------------------------------------------ Argument against Linux number 6,033: "...So this is like most Linux viruses. You have to download the virus yourself, become root, install it and then run it. Seems like a lot of work just to experience what you can get on Windows with a lot less trouble." From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Thu May 18 10:06:04 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 629F516A409 for ; Thu, 18 May 2006 10:06:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jeff.rollin@gmail.com) Received: from nz-out-0102.google.com (nz-out-0102.google.com [64.233.162.194]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8031943D46 for ; Thu, 18 May 2006 10:06:02 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jeff.rollin@gmail.com) Received: by nz-out-0102.google.com with SMTP id 13so443440nzn for ; Thu, 18 May 2006 03:06:02 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=G+tTWWEEo4BOKZLBz+Qabu75ooTDLgFqKh6DgA6SAhE/RdPNMXmc550uMsf/z3K9Y9x0TnI2bFlD25D4FjAnEvNTZQ0HB7IMjAKMwrkQV6hT/i6EN+ldokpZI2Jv1zXH8s7PelVaMzBzPcAQg/q5HYBPOYI9aB4/3Phkw0UPm00= Received: by 10.64.180.14 with SMTP id c14mr181344qbf; Thu, 18 May 2006 03:06:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.65.107.14 with HTTP; Thu, 18 May 2006 03:06:01 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <8a0028260605180306t24cebe64y1e67e4e57a071d71@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 18 May 2006 11:06:01 +0100 From: "Jeff Rollin" To: "Gregers Petersen" In-Reply-To: <446C18B1.3090207@cbs.dk> MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <8a0028260605090912re6b7f7bkb181bba64a0d9f5c@mail.gmail.com> <20060509164329.208F245042@ptavv.es.net> <8a0028260605100727n67acdd35qfd1f25b15caee43f@mail.gmail.com> <8a0028260605161045g6043edfaqe8bb03f6a1e44901@mail.gmail.com> <8a0028260605171818o726cd827nd1f9a60ff0384a62@mail.gmail.com> <20060518063735.GN7154@bombur.guldan.demon.nl> <446C18B1.3090207@cbs.dk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Wireless woes X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 18 May 2006 10:06:05 -0000 Gregers, > > Is there a '+' added to your model-name on the PC-card (and no mentioning > of > Extreme G), such as: > > DWL-650+ no, it's definitely a G650, no '+' Jeff If that is the case, the you don't have an Atheros card :-/ > > (and then it's needed to go the NDIS way) > > -- > > Gregers Petersen > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-mobile > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-mobile-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > --=20 ------------------------------------------------------ Argument against Linux number 6,033: "...So this is like most Linux viruses. You have to download the virus yourself, become root, install it and then run it. Seems like a lot of work just to experience what you can get on Windows with a lot less trouble." From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Thu May 18 11:09:39 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 22F1916A417 for ; Thu, 18 May 2006 11:09:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from robert@guldan.demon.nl) Received: from post-25.mail.nl.demon.net (post-25.mail.nl.demon.net [194.159.73.195]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9D76343D48 for ; Thu, 18 May 2006 11:09:38 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from robert@guldan.demon.nl) Received: from guldan-dsl.demon.nl ([83.160.7.100]:63432) by post-25.mail.nl.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1FggNt-000802-AQ; Thu, 18 May 2006 11:09:37 +0000 Received: from bombur.guldan.demon.nl ([192.168.201.3] helo=localhost) by guldan-dsl.demon.nl with esmtp (Exim 4.24; FreeBSD) id 1FggNq-0006fu-1i; Thu, 18 May 2006 13:09:34 +0200 Date: Thu, 18 May 2006 13:09:33 +0200 From: Robert Blacquiere To: Jeff Rollin Message-ID: <20060518110933.GO7154@bombur.guldan.demon.nl> References: <8a0028260605090912re6b7f7bkb181bba64a0d9f5c@mail.gmail.com> <20060509164329.208F245042@ptavv.es.net> <8a0028260605100727n67acdd35qfd1f25b15caee43f@mail.gmail.com> <8a0028260605161045g6043edfaqe8bb03f6a1e44901@mail.gmail.com> <8a0028260605171818o726cd827nd1f9a60ff0384a62@mail.gmail.com> <20060518063735.GN7154@bombur.guldan.demon.nl> <8a0028260605180304u15e49fd2v2bdd88fa666f19a5@mail.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <8a0028260605180304u15e49fd2v2bdd88fa666f19a5@mail.gmail.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i X-Disclaimer: running FreeBSD X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) Cc: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Wireless woes X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 18 May 2006 11:09:39 -0000 Hi Jeff, On Thu, May 18, 2006 at 11:04:31AM +0100, Jeff Rollin wrote: > Robert, > > Yes, that's the internal one. The one I'm configuring is external, > Cardbus-type. It's definitely atheros-based. Then it looks like the pcmcia controller is not enabling the pcmcia card. Try en set debugging on the cbb (cardbus). Maybe that gives more info about attaching or detecting a card in the slots. Robert > > Jeff > > On 18/05/06, Robert Blacquiere wrote: > > > >On Thu, May 18, 2006 at 02:18:10AM +0100, Jeff Rollin wrote: > >> Hi > >> > >> I just had a thought on this subject. Could the problem I'm having be > >due to > >> not having the firmware/hal? I never thought to install anything since > >it > >> works in SuSE 10.0 out of the box. Is there a firmware/hal package/port > >in > >> ports? > >> > >> Jeff. > >> > > > > > >Hi jeff, > > > >You don't have a atheros based wireless device. It seems that you have a > >broadcom wireless device: > > > >none4@pci2:5:0: class=0x028000 card=0x000617f9 chip=0x431814e4 rev=0x02 > >hdr=0x00 > > vendor = 'Broadcom Corporation' > > class = network > > > >This is probably your wireless device. > > > >Robert > > > >-- > >Microsoft: Where do you want to go today? > >Linux: Where do you want to go tomorrow? > >FreeBSD: Are you guys coming or what? > >OpenBSD: Hey guys you left some holes out there! > > > > > > -- > ------------------------------------------------------ > Argument against Linux number 6,033: > > "...So this is like most Linux viruses. You have to download the virus > yourself, become root, install it and then run it. Seems like a lot of work > just to experience what you can get on Windows with a lot less trouble." -- Microsoft: Where do you want to go today? Linux: Where do you want to go tomorrow? FreeBSD: Are you guys coming or what? OpenBSD: Hey guys you left some holes out there! From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Thu May 18 13:12:48 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1B8E416A43B for ; Thu, 18 May 2006 13:12:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dwilde@sandia.gov) Received: from sentry.sandia.gov (mm04snlnto.sandia.gov [132.175.109.21]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9AFED43D46 for ; Thu, 18 May 2006 13:12:47 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from dwilde@sandia.gov) Received: from 132.175.109.1 by sentry.sandia.gov with ESMTP (Tumbleweed MMS SMTP Relay 01 (Email Firewall v6.2.2)); Thu, 18 May 2006 07:12:37 -0600 X-Server-Uuid: 4A6F66F3-3BA9-40FF-AC33-461A8279D6D5 Received: from ES22SNLNT.srn.sandia.gov (ec03snlnt.sandia.gov [134.253.164.158] (may be forged)) by mailgate.sandia.gov ( 8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id k4IDCa7W021427 for ; Thu, 18 May 2006 07:12:37 -0600 (MDT) Received: from ES20SNLNT.srn.sandia.gov ([134.253.164.29]) by ES22SNLNT.srn.sandia.gov with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.1830); Thu, 18 May 2006 07:12:37 -0600 x-mimeole: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Thu, 18 May 2006 07:12:35 -0600 Message-ID: <040DF00BF960A24897B5B3EFBE63FE8A0248B3D1@ES20SNLNT.srn.sandia.gov> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: change in iwi-firmware operation Thread-Index: AcZ6GEAioS0BzjfqQjG8Qar+D5thmwAZAH7g From: "Wilde, Donald" To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-OriginalArrivalTime: 18 May 2006 13:12:37.0145 (UTC) FILETIME=[BBC57090:01C67A7C] X-TMWD-Spam-Summary: TS=20060518131238; SEV=2.0.2; DFV=A2006051804; IFV=2.0.4,4.0-8; RPD=4.00.0004; ENG=IBF; RPDID=NA; CAT=NONE; CON=NONE X-MMS-Spam-Filter-ID: A2006051804_4.00.0004_4.0-8 X-WSS-ID: 6872AD4F27K2674500-01-01 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: RE: change in iwi-firmware operation X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 18 May 2006 13:12:55 -0000 =20 -----Original Message----- From: Norberto Meijome [mailto:freebsd@meijome.net]=20 Sent: Wednesday, May 17, 2006 7:13 PM To: Wilde, Donald Cc: Frank Altpeter; freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Subject: Re: change in iwi-firmware operation On Mon, 15 May 2006 07:44:34 -0600 "Wilde, Donald" wrote: > No, the iwi.sh did not get installed in /usr/local/etc/rc.d, although=20 > I did have iwi_enable=3D"YES" in rc.conf. Either that, or the nice=20 > little helpful routine in mergemaster cleaned it out for me as one of=20 > those "old" scripts that can cause "Very Bad Things" to happen... Hi :) pkg_info -L iwi-firmware* will show that the script installed by the port is /etc/rc.d/iwi I had the issue with mergemaster destroying it in the past (thank god for backups!), so I had moved it to /usr/local/etc/rc.d/iwi.sh . Since 6.1 and latest iwi port upgrade (I'm on iwi-firmware-2.4_7 now) * , i'm getting more a lot more lockups than before when bringing the card back up ( usually after a suspend/resume cycle). I'm testing a new set of custom scripts to load/unload if_iwi.ko for a full reset and see if this makes any different to stability. * lack of stability could also be caused in my case due to change of laptop( from Toshiba Tecra A2 to IBM thinkpad z60m...) Beto =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D Thanks! I looked, and there was no iwi script there either. It seemed to pick up iwi.sh, but there are a whole bunch of messages that aren't being logged anywhere (as per a discussion on -STABLE) that suggest that something isn't quite right. It does work connection-wise, but I haven't been able to get any resume behavior other than a full boot out of it. -- Don Wilde Org 01737 505-844-1126 I didn't get a toy train like the other kids. I got a toy subway instead. You couldn't see anything, but every now and then you'd hear this rumbling noise go by. - Steven Wright From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Thu May 18 14:02:09 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EE38616A401 for ; Thu, 18 May 2006 14:02:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from neshort@yahoo.com) Received: from web30702.mail.mud.yahoo.com (web30702.mail.mud.yahoo.com [68.142.200.135]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 775CE43D46 for ; Thu, 18 May 2006 14:02:09 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from neshort@yahoo.com) Received: (qmail 24672 invoked by uid 60001); 18 May 2006 14:02:08 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=CcPZYldbcIM+KDxnijXgmK5XCV/c1EiiMxOq+7DJcJV4arwkP36tw9MEowuicyeO+rn+l8UQG1TH1y4iXRUJC/5VFSY96OVIgMIKp7iWOrcAx5dMxKPZIFer8DX8WiQWI3IdP9GPUYN7yvOVAipyTaBJmR3316qW1Bw6uYq9v6s= ; Message-ID: <20060518140208.24670.qmail@web30702.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Received: from [208.240.243.170] by web30702.mail.mud.yahoo.com via HTTP; Thu, 18 May 2006 07:02:08 PDT Date: Thu, 18 May 2006 07:02:08 -0700 (PDT) From: Neil Short To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Subject: Re: More 'resource' problems with "ath0" X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 18 May 2006 14:02:14 -0000 >%ifconfig ath0 >ath0: >flags=8843 mtu 1500 > inet 66.80.0.4 netmask 0xfffffff0 broadcast 66.80.0.15 > inet6 fe80::280:48ff:fe3c:6c00%ath0 prefixlen 64 scopeid 0x5 > ether 00:80:48:3c:6c:00 > media: IEEE 802.11 Wireless Ethernet autoselect mode 11b > > status: associated > ssid LIVE555 channel 3 bssid 00:80:48:3c:6c:00 > authmode OPEN privacy OFF txpowmax 38 >protmode CTS burst >dtimperiod 1 > bintval 100 > >Machine 2: .... >%ifconfig ath0 >ath0: >flags=8843 mtu >1500 > inet 66.80.62.41 netmask 0xfffffff8 broadcast 66.80.62.47 > inet6 fe80::213:46ff:fe98:3b13%ath0 prefixlen >64 scopeid 0x4 > ether 00:13:46:98:3b:13 > media: IEEE 802.11 Wireless Ethernet >autoselect mode 11b > > status: associated > ssid LIVE555 channel 3 bssid 00:13:46:98:3b:13 > authmode OPEN privacy OFF txpowmax 36 protmode CTS burst >dtimperiod 1 > bintval 100 It's not clear what error you are getting nor when you are getting it; but I have some (maybe) dumb questions: 1) Are you certain about your netmask? 2) How are you bringing up your ath0 interfaces? ====== Now I, Nebuchadnezzar, praise and extol and honor the King of heaven, for all his works are truth, and his ways are justice; and he is able to bring low those who walk in pride. 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Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Thu May 18 14:23:10 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4F54316A484 for ; Thu, 18 May 2006 14:23:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from leijaern@rfx.ca) Received: from rfx.ca (201-27-43-90.dsl.telesp.net.br [201.27.43.90]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 1FBB543D79 for ; Thu, 18 May 2006 14:23:08 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from leijaern@rfx.ca) Message-ID: <000001c67a86$10d7eaf0$29fda8c0@pjf4> From: "Ernest Leija" To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Date: Thu, 18 May 2006 07:19:25 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: Re: crdit X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Ernest Leija List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 18 May 2006 14:23:10 -0000 Dear Home 0vvner, Your crredit doesn't matter to us! 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Your own wisdom must decide your course, but thirteen is small From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Thu May 18 16:35:11 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E1EB916A465 for ; Thu, 18 May 2006 16:35:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from oberman@es.net) Received: from postal2.es.net (postal2.es.net [198.128.3.206]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D764143D7B for ; Thu, 18 May 2006 16:35:05 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from oberman@es.net) Received: from ptavv.es.net ([198.128.4.29]) by postal2.es.net (Postal Node 2) with ESMTP (SSL) id IBA74465; Thu, 18 May 2006 09:35:00 -0700 Received: from ptavv.es.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ptavv.es.net (Tachyon Server) with ESMTP id 7F21945046; Thu, 18 May 2006 09:34:59 -0700 (PDT) To: "Jeff Rollin" In-reply-to: Your message of "Thu, 18 May 2006 02:18:10 BST." <8a0028260605171818o726cd827nd1f9a60ff0384a62@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 18 May 2006 09:34:59 -0700 From: "Kevin Oberman" Message-Id: <20060518163459.7F21945046@ptavv.es.net> Cc: Gregers Petersen , freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Wireless woes X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 18 May 2006 16:35:12 -0000 > Date: Thu, 18 May 2006 02:18:10 +0100 > From: "Jeff Rollin" > > Hi > > I just had a thought on this subject. Could the problem I'm having be due to > not having the firmware/hal? I never thought to install anything since it > works in SuSE 10.0 out of the box. Is there a firmware/hal package/port in > ports? Jeff, One thing I am still unclear on: does ANY PCcard work on the system? It looks like CIS is not being read on your card, but if this is failing, it should be broken for all cards. Is this a PCcard issue with FreeBSD on your system or an issue with only the DWL-G650 card? Because Atheros allows FreeBSD to include the firmware in FreeBSD, is does not need to be downloaded/installed. When HAL loads, ath_hal should print the version number and a list of supported Atheros chips to the console and logs. If the system detects an Atheros device, it should list the information from the card tagged as being from ath0:. Do you see any of this? -- R. Kevin Oberman, Network Engineer Energy Sciences Network (ESnet) Ernest O. Lawrence Berkeley National Laboratory (Berkeley Lab) E-mail: oberman@es.net Phone: +1 510 486-8634 From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Thu May 18 21:55:37 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CA02F16A401 for ; Thu, 18 May 2006 21:55:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rsf@ns.live555.com) Received: from ns.live555.com (ns.live555.com [66.80.62.34]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 65D3A43D58 for ; Thu, 18 May 2006 21:55:35 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from rsf@ns.live555.com) Received: from ns.live555.com (localhost.live555.com [127.0.0.1]) by ns.live555.com (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id k4ILtXXX078772 for ; Thu, 18 May 2006 14:55:34 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from rsf@ns.live555.com) Received: (from rsf@localhost) by ns.live555.com (8.13.6/8.13.6/Submit) id k4ILtX7k078768; Thu, 18 May 2006 14:55:33 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from rsf) Message-Id: <7.0.1.0.1.20060518144802.02003550@live555.com> X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 7.0.1.0 Date: Thu, 18 May 2006 14:52:08 -0700 To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org From: Ross Finlayson In-Reply-To: <20060518140208.24670.qmail@web30702.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <20060518140208.24670.qmail@web30702.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Subject: Re: More 'resource' problems with "ath0" X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 18 May 2006 21:55:37 -0000 >It's not clear what error you are getting Please see the earlier messages in this thread. I'm getting errors like the following: May 17 07:53:22 ns dhcpd: send_packet: No buffer space available May 17 07:53:25 ns dhcpd: send_packet: No buffer space available May 17 07:53:35 ns named[382]: client 66.80.62.46#1026: error sending response: not enough free resources > nor when you are getting it at arbitrary times (when clients are associated with my base station). >; but I have some (maybe) dumb >questions: > >1) Are you certain about your netmask? Yes. >2) How are you bringing up your ath0 interfaces? Using a script that's run from my "rc.local". The script first runs kldload -v if_ath and then runs ifconfig ath0 ... From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Fri May 19 20:47:52 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0045916A426 for ; Fri, 19 May 2006 20:47:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rsf@ns.live555.com) Received: from ns.live555.com (ns.live555.com [66.80.62.34]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 58F6543D45 for ; Fri, 19 May 2006 20:47:49 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from rsf@ns.live555.com) Received: from ns.live555.com (localhost.live555.com [127.0.0.1]) by ns.live555.com (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id k4JKlhvH090576 for ; Fri, 19 May 2006 13:47:44 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from rsf@ns.live555.com) Received: (from rsf@localhost) by ns.live555.com (8.13.6/8.13.6/Submit) id k4JKlgMI090565; Fri, 19 May 2006 13:47:42 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from rsf) Message-Id: <7.0.1.0.1.20060519133359.02083d70@live555.com> X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 7.0.1.0 Date: Fri, 19 May 2006 13:44:39 -0700 To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org From: Ross Finlayson In-Reply-To: <446C23C0.8030501@errno.com> References: <7.0.1.0.1.20060517080119.01e00df8@live555.com> <446B44B0.5030908@errno.com> <7.0.1.0.1.20060517125415.01e0f568@live555.com> <446B8F14.80502@errno.com> <7.0.1.0.1.20060517153640.01e0f568@live555.com> <446C0C22.4090700@errno.com> <7.0.1.0.1.20060517230855.01ddd570@live555.com> <446C23C0.8030501@errno.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Subject: Re: More 'resource' problems with "ath0" X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 19 May 2006 20:47:52 -0000 >>So far I have not seen the problem recur after I switched to using 11g. Unfortunately the problem arose again today, even when running 11g: May 19 13:24:40 ns named[398]: client 66.80.0.7#1025: error sending response: not enough free resources May 19 13:24:40 ns named[398]: client 66.80.0.7#1025: error sending response: not enough free resources >So your clients are operating in ps mode Yes, some of the clients of one of the access points (the one that's running at the coffee shop, which is where the problem arose again today) will be operating in power-save mode. (Because these clients are random 'walk in off the street' types, it's not possible in general to prevent them from using power-save mode.) > and this may be the same issue seen by one other person. I'm > working on it but am traveling right now so nothing will happen for > a while (and it's also hard to reproduce). Is there any diagnostic tool that I could run - when I notice the problem occurring - that might help you in tracking down and solving this problem? Also, do you think that Joao's suggestion - copied below - is worth trying? From "AT Matik ": >I saw this often on machines with network connection quality problems, >especially on wireless connections. Seems the bufferspace get full and then >the error comes up which may cause service problems. The problem is more >frequent with udp traffic. > >normally you can workaround this by setting sysctls > >net.inet.udp.recvspace=65536 >net.inet.udp.maxdgram=131072 > >or other values fitting to your needs From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Sat May 20 05:36:19 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 03B9C16A42C for ; Sat, 20 May 2006 05:36:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from joquendo@hushmail.com) Received: from smtp3.hushmail.com (smtp3.hushmail.com [65.39.178.135]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 82D2443D49 for ; Sat, 20 May 2006 05:36:18 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from joquendo@hushmail.com) Received: from smtp3.hushmail.com (localhost.hushmail.com [127.0.0.1]) by smtp3.hushmail.com (Postfix) with SMTP id 4EC13A3373 for ; Fri, 19 May 2006 22:36:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mailserver8.hushmail.com (mailserver8.hushmail.com [65.39.178.61]) by smtp3.hushmail.com (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Fri, 19 May 2006 22:36:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: by mailserver8.hushmail.com (Postfix, from userid 65534) id CAEB4DA841; Fri, 19 May 2006 22:36:16 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sat, 20 May 2006 01:36:15 -0400 To: Cc: From: "J. Oquendo" Content-type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Message-Id: <20060520053616.CAEB4DA841@mailserver8.hushmail.com> Subject: wpa_supplicant Oddity X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 20 May 2006 05:36:19 -0000 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 After fooling around with my wireless card on one of my Dell latops I noticed it would not come back to life after a reboot. I tried everything on the planet to get it working... As you can see from my ifconfig, the card was associated, the router saw it, but it would not function properly... bordello# uname -a FreeBSD bordello 6.1-RELEASE FreeBSD 6.1-RELEASE #0: Mon May 15 10:50:49 EDT 2006 root@:/usr/src/sys/i386/compile/TYPHOON i386 bordello# ifconfig -a bge0: flags=8802 mtu 1500 options=1b ether 00:0d:56:e2:c4:b5 media: Ethernet autoselect (none) status: no carrier ndis0: flags=8843 mtu 1500 inet6 fe80::290:4bff:fe73:665e%ndis0 prefixlen 64 scopeid 0x2 inet 192.168.1.8 netmask 0xffffff00 broadcast 192.168.1.255 ether 00:90:4b:73:66:5e media: IEEE 802.11 Wireless Ethernet autoselect (OFDM/54Mbps) status: associated ssid HOSTEL channel 10 bssid 00:0f:b5:62:88:a6 authmode OPEN privacy ON deftxkey UNDEF wepkey 1:104-bit txpowmax 100 protmode CTS plip0: flags=108810 mtu 1500 lo0: flags=8049 mtu 16384 inet6 ::1 prefixlen 128 inet6 fe80::1%lo0 prefixlen 64 scopeid 0x4 inet 127.0.0.1 netmask 0xff000000 bordello# cat /etc/rc.conf apm_enable="YES" inetd_enable="YES" linux_enable="YES" moused_enable="YES" sshd_enable="YES" usbd_enable="YES" pccard_enable="YES" pccard_mem="0xd8000" powerd_enable="YES" fsck_y_enable="YES" hostname="bordello" dhclient_program="/sbin/dhclient" background_dhclient="YES" sshd_enable="YES" ifconfig_ndis0="WPA DHCP" bordello# more /etc/wpa_supplicant.conf network={ ssid="HOSTEL" key_mgmt=NONE wep_key1=d7a0cb0f54679c476886d7db3b wep_tx_keyidx=1 wep_tx_keyidx=1 } bordello# /etc/rc.d/netif start Starting wpa_supplicant. lo0: flags=8049 mtu 16384 inet6 ::1 prefixlen 128 inet6 fe80::1%lo0 prefixlen 64 scopeid 0x4 inet 127.0.0.1 netmask 0xff000000 ndis0: flags=8843 mtu 1500 inet6 fe80::290:4bff:fe73:665e%ndis0 prefixlen 64 scopeid 0x2 inet 0.0.0.0 netmask 0xff000000 broadcast 255.255.255.255 ether 00:90:4b:73:66:5e media: IEEE 802.11 Wireless Ethernet autoselect (OFDM/54Mbps) status: no carrier ssid HOSTEL channel 10 authmode OPEN privacy ON deftxkey 4 txpowmax 100 protmode CTS bordello# ifconfig ndis0 inet 192.168.1.8 netmask 255.255.255.0 ssid HOSTEL wepmode on wepkey 0xd7a0cb0f54679c476886d7db3b up bordello# ifconfig -a bge0: flags=8802 mtu 1500 options=1b ether 00:0d:56:e2:c4:b5 media: Ethernet autoselect (none) status: no carrier ndis0: flags=8843 mtu 1500 inet6 fe80::290:4bff:fe73:665e%ndis0 prefixlen 64 scopeid 0x2 ether 00:90:4b:73:66:5e media: IEEE 802.11 Wireless Ethernet autoselect (OFDM/54Mbps) status: associated ssid HOSTEL channel 10 bssid 00:0f:b5:62:88:a6 authmode OPEN privacy ON deftxkey 4 wepkey 1:104-bit txpowmax 100 protmode CTS plip0: flags=108810 mtu 1500 lo0: flags=8049 mtu 16384 inet6 ::1 prefixlen 128 inet6 fe80::1%lo0 prefixlen 64 scopeid 0x4 inet 127.0.0.1 netmask 0xff000000 bordello# ping 192.168.1.1 PING 192.168.1.1 (192.168.1.1): 56 data bytes ping: sendto: No route to host ping: sendto: No route to host ping: sendto: No route to host ^C - --- 192.168.1.1 ping statistics --- 3 packets transmitted, 0 packets received, 100% packet loss Didn't want to bombard more crap but yes I did a dhclient ndis0 as well and it bonked out. Anyhow, this is what I noticed after a ps - xa for wpa_supplicant after going through all my configs to make sure they were all in order... bordello# ps -xa|grep wpa 63979 ?? Ss 0:00.41 /usr/sbin/wpa_supplicant -B -q -i ndis0 - c /etc/wpa_supplicant.conf -D ndis -P /var/run/wpa_supplicant/ndis0.pid When I went to check the wpa_supplicant directory in /var/run I noticed there wasn't one. bordello# mkdir /var/run/wpa_supplicant bordello# chown root:network bordello# sudo ifconfig ndis0 inet 192.168.1.8 netmask 255.255.255.0 ssid HOSTEL wepmode on weptxkey 1 wepkey 1:0xd7a0cb0f54679c476886d7db3b up bordello# ifconfig -a bordello# sudo ifconfig ndis0 up Everything worked fine afterwards. Unsure why the directory wasn't there but I figured I would share this little bit of information with others who have had odd problems with their wireless set up. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Note: This signature can be verified at https://www.hushtools.com/verify Charset: UTF8 Version: Hush 2.5 wpwEAQECAAYFAkRuqs8ACgkQVnroYexO+HKTYwP8CNE7K/tmRSYDWPWHzbrz66F+kGut Un0MRnR+Y9Fx85lngW/DGRLdDj20wCXSiCPvtjfylh0ZBCcLhkolsgot4n/jHYj5MOYd 4uqha5wn5zkTQp4GbWUJ1Zyd0mr9jWq2yJlQP6mJFmGwRA3Xa4Z3dUJV2a2KYe/NILAd 3zjm4gw= =xQ3B -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- Concerned about your privacy? Instantly send FREE secure email, no account required http://www.hushmail.com/send?l=480 Get the best prices on SSL certificates from Hushmail https://www.hushssl.com?l=485 From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Sat May 20 14:09:23 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9E01716A420 for ; Sat, 20 May 2006 14:09:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sam@errno.com) Received: from ebb.errno.com (ebb.errno.com [69.12.149.25]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3C21843D55 for ; Sat, 20 May 2006 14:09:23 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from sam@errno.com) Received: from [192.168.178.21] (theus.xs4all.nl [62.251.21.145]) (authenticated bits=0) by ebb.errno.com (8.13.6/8.12.6) with ESMTP id k4KE9JHK044025 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Sat, 20 May 2006 07:09:22 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from sam@errno.com) Message-ID: <446F2312.3000708@errno.com> Date: Sat, 20 May 2006 16:09:22 +0200 From: Sam Leffler Organization: Errno Consulting User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.2 (Macintosh/20060308) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Ross Finlayson References: <7.0.1.0.1.20060517080119.01e00df8@live555.com> <446B44B0.5030908@errno.com> <7.0.1.0.1.20060517125415.01e0f568@live555.com> <446B8F14.80502@errno.com> <7.0.1.0.1.20060517153640.01e0f568@live555.com> <446C0C22.4090700@errno.com> <7.0.1.0.1.20060517230855.01ddd570@live555.com> <446C23C0.8030501@errno.com> <7.0.1.0.1.20060519133359.02083d70@live555.com> In-Reply-To: <7.0.1.0.1.20060519133359.02083d70@live555.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-DCC--Metrics: ebb.errno.com 1356; Body=2 Fuz1=2 Fuz2=2 Cc: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Subject: Re: More 'resource' problems with "ath0" X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 20 May 2006 14:09:23 -0000 Ross Finlayson wrote: > >>> So far I have not seen the problem recur after I switched to using 11g. > > Unfortunately the problem arose again today, even when running 11g: > > May 19 13:24:40 ns named[398]: client 66.80.0.7#1025: error sending > response: not enough free resources > May 19 13:24:40 ns named[398]: client 66.80.0.7#1025: error sending > response: not enough free resources > >> So your clients are operating in ps mode > > Yes, some of the clients of one of the access points (the one that's > running at the coffee shop, which is where the problem arose again > today) will be operating in power-save mode. (Because these clients are > random 'walk in off the street' types, it's not possible in general to > prevent them from using power-save mode.) > >> and this may be the same issue seen by one other person. I'm working >> on it but am traveling right now so nothing will happen for a while >> (and it's also hard to reproduce). > > Is there any diagnostic tool that I could run - when I notice the > problem occurring - that might help you in tracking down and solving > this problem? Not really. I have an idea what's going. > > Also, do you think that Joao's suggestion - copied below - is worth trying? No. The problem is in the driver (probably in the handling of packets buffered for clients operating in ps mode). Sam From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Sat May 20 15:47:48 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D176A16A429 for ; Sat, 20 May 2006 15:47:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from asstec@matik.com.br) Received: from msrv.matik.com.br (msrv.matik.com.br [200.152.83.14]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 25ABD43D45 for ; Sat, 20 May 2006 15:47:47 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from asstec@matik.com.br) Received: from anb.matik.com.br (anb.matik.com.br [200.152.88.34] (may be forged)) by msrv.matik.com.br (8.13.6/8.13.1) with ESMTP id k4KFleNC055890; Sat, 20 May 2006 12:47:41 -0300 (BRT) (envelope-from asstec@matik.com.br) From: AT Matik Organization: Infomatik To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Date: Sat, 20 May 2006 12:47:26 -0300 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.1 References: <7.0.1.0.1.20060517080119.01e00df8@live555.com> <7.0.1.0.1.20060519133359.02083d70@live555.com> <446F2312.3000708@errno.com> In-Reply-To: <446F2312.3000708@errno.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200605201247.27862.asstec@matik.com.br> X-Filter-Version: 1.11a (msrv.matik.com.br) X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.9 required=5.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,AWL autolearn=unavailable version=3.1.0 X-Spam-Checker-Version: Antispam Datacenter Matik msrv.matik.com.br X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV version 0.88, clamav-milter version 0.87 on msrv.matik.com.br X-Virus-Status: Clean Cc: Subject: Re: More 'resource' problems with "ath0" X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 20 May 2006 15:47:51 -0000 On Saturday 20 May 2006 11:09, Sam Leffler wrote: > > > Also, do you think that Joao's suggestion - copied below - is worth > > trying? > > No. The problem is in the driver (probably in the handling of packets > buffered for clients operating in ps mode). > it happens also when the powersave mode definitly is off, on the server, on= =20 the client and on the AP and is not only an issue on WL cards but also on=20 other NICs the problem appears more frequent when you have cybercoffees connected wher= e=20 games cause high udp/icmp broadcast traffic and probably attract similar=20 traffic coming back from the outside imediatly you see then such error messages you posted and services like nam= ed,=20 dhcpd, squid and other which use udp ports may be compromised what I posted certainly is a valid workaround on your server where the prob= lem=20 ocurrs, you can set values runtime to your needs and see no more errors=20 instantly sysctl net.inet.udp.recvspace=3D65536 sysctl net.inet.udp.maxdgram=3D131072=20 in addition you should consider blocking all broadcasts and 0's on your=20 network which will help a lot, you also may consider ingress filtering for= =20 smurf like traffic on your router in order to prevent this problems Jo=E3o A mensagem foi scaneada pelo sistema de e-mail e pode ser considerada segura. Service fornecido pelo Datacenter Matik https://datacenter.matik.com.br From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Sat May 20 17:38:13 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 937A416A430 for ; Sat, 20 May 2006 17:38:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rsf@ns.live555.com) Received: from ns.live555.com (ns.live555.com [66.80.62.34]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2E25543D49 for ; Sat, 20 May 2006 17:38:13 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from rsf@ns.live555.com) Received: from ns.live555.com (localhost.live555.com [127.0.0.1]) by ns.live555.com (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id k4KHcCmP071329 for ; Sat, 20 May 2006 10:38:12 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from rsf@ns.live555.com) Received: (from rsf@localhost) by ns.live555.com (8.13.6/8.13.6/Submit) id k4KHcCpL071328; Sat, 20 May 2006 10:38:12 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from rsf) Message-Id: <7.0.1.0.1.20060520103325.0207ce60@live555.com> X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 7.0.1.0 Date: Sat, 20 May 2006 10:35:51 -0700 To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org From: Ross Finlayson In-Reply-To: <200605201247.27862.asstec@matik.com.br> References: <7.0.1.0.1.20060517080119.01e00df8@live555.com> <7.0.1.0.1.20060519133359.02083d70@live555.com> <446F2312.3000708@errno.com> <200605201247.27862.asstec@matik.com.br> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Subject: Re: More 'resource' problems with "ath0" X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 20 May 2006 17:38:17 -0000 >what I posted certainly is a valid workaround on your server where >the problem >ocurrs, you can set values runtime to your needs and see no more errors >instantly > >sysctl net.inet.udp.recvspace=65536 >sysctl net.inet.udp.maxdgram=131072 Unfortunately that's not true. The error occurred again yesterday, even after I set those values. Ross. From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Sat May 20 23:41:10 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C20C816A421 for ; Sat, 20 May 2006 23:41:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from oberman@es.net) Received: from postal2.es.net (postal2.es.net [198.128.3.206]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7DE1643D46 for ; Sat, 20 May 2006 23:41:10 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from oberman@es.net) Received: from ptavv.es.net ([198.128.4.29]) by postal2.es.net (Postal Node 2) with ESMTP (SSL) id IBA74465; Sat, 20 May 2006 16:41:04 -0700 Received: from ptavv.es.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ptavv.es.net (Tachyon Server) with ESMTP id 1AA8045046; Sat, 20 May 2006 16:41:04 -0700 (PDT) To: "J. Oquendo" In-reply-to: Your message of "Sat, 20 May 2006 01:36:15 EDT." <20060520053616.CAEB4DA841@mailserver8.hushmail.com> Date: Sat, 20 May 2006 16:41:04 -0700 From: "Kevin Oberman" Message-Id: <20060520234104.1AA8045046@ptavv.es.net> Cc: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Subject: Re: wpa_supplicant Oddity X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 20 May 2006 23:41:10 -0000 > Date: Sat, 20 May 2006 01:36:15 -0400 > From: "J. Oquendo" > Sender: owner-freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org > > After fooling around with my wireless card on one of my Dell latops > I noticed it would not come back to life after a reboot. I tried > everything on the planet to get it working... As you can see from > my ifconfig, the card was associated, the router saw it, but it > would not function properly... > > bordello# uname -a > FreeBSD bordello 6.1-RELEASE FreeBSD 6.1-RELEASE #0: Mon May 15 > 10:50:49 EDT 2006 root@:/usr/src/sys/i386/compile/TYPHOON i386 > bordello# ifconfig -a > bge0: flags=8802 mtu 1500 > options=1b > ether 00:0d:56:e2:c4:b5 > media: Ethernet autoselect (none) > status: no carrier > ndis0: flags=8843 mtu 1500 > inet6 fe80::290:4bff:fe73:665e%ndis0 prefixlen 64 scopeid > 0x2 > inet 192.168.1.8 netmask 0xffffff00 broadcast 192.168.1.255 > ether 00:90:4b:73:66:5e > media: IEEE 802.11 Wireless Ethernet autoselect > (OFDM/54Mbps) > status: associated > ssid HOSTEL channel 10 bssid 00:0f:b5:62:88:a6 > authmode OPEN privacy ON deftxkey UNDEF wepkey 1:104-bit > txpowmax 100 > protmode CTS > plip0: flags=108810 mtu > 1500 > lo0: flags=8049 mtu 16384 > inet6 ::1 prefixlen 128 > inet6 fe80::1%lo0 prefixlen 64 scopeid 0x4 > inet 127.0.0.1 netmask 0xff000000 > bordello# cat /etc/rc.conf > > apm_enable="YES" > inetd_enable="YES" > linux_enable="YES" > moused_enable="YES" > sshd_enable="YES" > usbd_enable="YES" > pccard_enable="YES" > pccard_mem="0xd8000" > powerd_enable="YES" > fsck_y_enable="YES" > hostname="bordello" > dhclient_program="/sbin/dhclient" > background_dhclient="YES" > sshd_enable="YES" > ifconfig_ndis0="WPA DHCP" > > bordello# more /etc/wpa_supplicant.conf > network={ > > ssid="HOSTEL" > key_mgmt=NONE > wep_key1=d7a0cb0f54679c476886d7db3b > wep_tx_keyidx=1 > wep_tx_keyidx=1 > } > > bordello# /etc/rc.d/netif start > Starting wpa_supplicant. > lo0: flags=8049 mtu 16384 > inet6 ::1 prefixlen 128 > inet6 fe80::1%lo0 prefixlen 64 scopeid 0x4 > inet 127.0.0.1 netmask 0xff000000 > ndis0: flags=8843 mtu 1500 > inet6 fe80::290:4bff:fe73:665e%ndis0 prefixlen 64 scopeid > 0x2 > inet 0.0.0.0 netmask 0xff000000 broadcast 255.255.255.255 > ether 00:90:4b:73:66:5e > media: IEEE 802.11 Wireless Ethernet autoselect > (OFDM/54Mbps) > status: no carrier > ssid HOSTEL channel 10 > authmode OPEN privacy ON deftxkey 4 txpowmax 100 protmode > CTS > > bordello# ifconfig ndis0 inet 192.168.1.8 netmask 255.255.255.0 > ssid HOSTEL wepmode on wepkey 0xd7a0cb0f54679c476886d7db3b up > > bordello# ifconfig -a > bge0: flags=8802 mtu 1500 > options=1b > ether 00:0d:56:e2:c4:b5 > media: Ethernet autoselect (none) > status: no carrier > ndis0: flags=8843 mtu 1500 > inet6 fe80::290:4bff:fe73:665e%ndis0 prefixlen 64 scopeid > 0x2 > ether 00:90:4b:73:66:5e > media: IEEE 802.11 Wireless Ethernet autoselect > (OFDM/54Mbps) > status: associated > ssid HOSTEL channel 10 bssid 00:0f:b5:62:88:a6 > authmode OPEN privacy ON deftxkey 4 wepkey 1:104-bit > txpowmax 100 > protmode CTS > plip0: flags=108810 mtu > 1500 > lo0: flags=8049 mtu 16384 > inet6 ::1 prefixlen 128 > inet6 fe80::1%lo0 prefixlen 64 scopeid 0x4 > inet 127.0.0.1 netmask 0xff000000 > bordello# ping 192.168.1.1 > PING 192.168.1.1 (192.168.1.1): 56 data bytes > ping: sendto: No route to host > ping: sendto: No route to host > ping: sendto: No route to host > ^C > - --- 192.168.1.1 ping statistics --- > 3 packets transmitted, 0 packets received, 100% packet loss > > Didn't want to bombard more crap but yes I did a dhclient ndis0 as > well and it bonked out. Anyhow, this is what I noticed after a ps - > xa for wpa_supplicant after going through all my configs to make > sure they were all in order... > > bordello# ps -xa|grep wpa > 63979 ?? Ss 0:00.41 /usr/sbin/wpa_supplicant -B -q -i ndis0 - > c /etc/wpa_supplicant.conf -D ndis -P > /var/run/wpa_supplicant/ndis0.pid > > When I went to check the wpa_supplicant directory in /var/run I > noticed there wasn't one. > > bordello# mkdir /var/run/wpa_supplicant > bordello# chown root:network > bordello# sudo ifconfig ndis0 inet 192.168.1.8 netmask > 255.255.255.0 ssid HOSTEL wepmode on weptxkey 1 wepkey > 1:0xd7a0cb0f54679c476886d7db3b up > bordello# ifconfig -a > bordello# sudo ifconfig ndis0 up > > Everything worked fine afterwards. Unsure why the directory wasn't > there but I figured I would share this little bit of information > with others who have had odd problems with their wireless set up. Hmm. I, too, have been having odd problems with the wpa_supplicant at various times. The clear problem you are having is that the weptxkey is not being reset correctly. The first ifconfig shows it as unset. The remaining examples show it as being '4', not '1'. The only oddity I see is that you have the line 'wep_tx_keyidx=1 twice. I have no idea why this would cause any problem, though. I have a different issue, but I "solve" it by entering "/etc/rc.d/wpa_supplicant restart ath0" until it finally works. -- R. Kevin Oberman, Network Engineer Energy Sciences Network (ESnet) Ernest O. Lawrence Berkeley National Laboratory (Berkeley Lab) E-mail: oberman@es.net Phone: +1 510 486-8634