From owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Sep 1 04:07:59 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: chat@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5B948106564A for ; Mon, 1 Sep 2008 04:07:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsdworld@gmail.com) Received: from yx-out-2324.google.com (yx-out-2324.google.com [74.125.44.30]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1B12E8FC1F for ; Mon, 1 Sep 2008 04:07:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsdworld@gmail.com) Received: by yx-out-2324.google.com with SMTP id 8so940638yxb.13 for ; Sun, 31 Aug 2008 21:07:58 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from :user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=K+wOF1c3q0JyGsUp/LAUc+ZCDmob/naUSJUDhk7w6go=; b=ZOc89Ld2Gdb+pZ+U+STUWiPuPYPnIk5EFj8oUjPD5uZz+Bw3hJhUwvnHYB6nIgD3ZW M9czurNvS5zM0AUyj7SOG3+L2VIsqEob8ENyCIRz0ij3l0pFI3h+q872kqX9xBaUGFc6 ZfkRYrrq+P07hWbuwN8uPZm6XhavxqXXDKMj8= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=bE/L3vjt132pSHU95US20zUjKpQJJXpqgH1j4/F7aRSUlob31AjzhlpugI/XMWcQJh 5LJ+S2Zc30uDz/9OagxZtqjU04CYUU8/I0TI6L6Fi042Gd5AGbLxk3DoCcjzGNwraEyN aVFMLCH+4VuNgvWtNHnKV6Bzbc9HhyiqVHGjU= Received: by 10.151.142.16 with SMTP id u16mr7940991ybn.58.1220240337478; Sun, 31 Aug 2008 20:38:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: from laptop.twcny.rr.com ( [74.79.69.127]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 5sm6736155ywd.8.2008.08.31.20.38.54 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Sun, 31 Aug 2008 20:38:56 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <48BB9C13.8010104@gmail.com> Date: Mon, 01 Sep 2008 03:38:59 -0400 From: Benjamin D Adams User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.16 (X11/20080810) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: chat@freebsd.org, gnome@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Subject: mail app conversion X-BeenThere: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Non technical items related to the community List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 01 Sep 2008 04:07:59 -0000 I'm trying to change to evolution from thunderbird. Is there a script or a tutorial on how to do so? BSDWorld.NET http://www.BSDWorld.NET/ From owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Sep 1 15:20:17 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: chat@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B1933106566C for ; Mon, 1 Sep 2008 15:20:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lists@stringsutils.com) Received: from zoraida.natserv.net (p65-147.acedsl.com [66.114.65.147]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 86AD48FC17 for ; Mon, 1 Sep 2008 15:20:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lists@stringsutils.com) Received: from shelca (zoraida.natserv.net [66.114.65.147]) by zoraida.natserv.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 17F1B1703C; Mon, 1 Sep 2008 11:01:23 -0400 (EDT) References: <48BB9C13.8010104@gmail.com> Message-ID: X-Mailer: http://www.courier-mta.org/cone/ From: Francisco Reyes To: Benjamin D Adams Date: Mon, 01 Sep 2008 11:01:22 -0400 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: chat@freebsd.org Subject: Re: mail app conversion X-BeenThere: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Non technical items related to the community List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 01 Sep 2008 15:20:17 -0000 Benjamin D Adams writes: > I'm trying to change to evolution from thunderbird. > Is there a script or a tutorial on how to do so? What in particular are you trying to convert? Address book? Emails? If you use IMAP emails are on the server. If you are using pop you could create a second account with imap and copy over the emails. Addressbook you usually do an export in the current program to a format the target program can read. From owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Sep 1 15:22:19 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: chat@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 95E181065686 for ; Mon, 1 Sep 2008 15:22:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsdworld@gmail.com) Received: from yx-out-2324.google.com (yx-out-2324.google.com [74.125.44.28]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4D6F78FC20 for ; Mon, 1 Sep 2008 15:22:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsdworld@gmail.com) Received: by yx-out-2324.google.com with SMTP id 8so1059613yxb.13 for ; Mon, 01 Sep 2008 08:22:18 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from :user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject:references:in-reply-to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=54GxS0h1XCkLKJjC0AjpT8UT83e5V0WDrerOU7dkb6M=; b=IOGdPctfWcpn02wxaypE8/BCkRbGj+LaeNiSbi1Hz08M0juvwrWQFytiOtmxjsqna9 vpeukaZXWiueCDa7Ir/HMH8u52Vik3AsARomFOXR/x26a3RYcXLFucx+L/omWWq+wHIT 3nj9qh9gwie0pZM/M2HJIEeIGvgiQvexo46S8= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject :references:in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=RkHC3L9F4SQKFDz1p2SlVpLhWY2zx5dhZGkccjkW7mS5NB3mvfTKaYdpjC5ehcSYt7 UpSk1ryKe81FhyJtuH99fhYIR62/qhU/bJJ+JIq5CVbiLvO4uLOSCFlIMR2eKr91k7AZ SLd8oOlMwcbfHS2UC787LWISyekQxLlSJfN78= Received: by 10.150.140.6 with SMTP id n6mr8807208ybd.161.1220282538558; Mon, 01 Sep 2008 08:22:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: from laptop.twcny.rr.com ( [74.79.69.127]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 6sm7594969ywi.1.2008.09.01.08.22.15 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Mon, 01 Sep 2008 08:22:16 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <48BC40F1.8080402@gmail.com> Date: Mon, 01 Sep 2008 15:22:25 -0400 From: Benjamin D Adams User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.16 (X11/20080810) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Francisco Reyes References: <48BB9C13.8010104@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: chat@freebsd.org Subject: Re: mail app conversion X-BeenThere: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Non technical items related to the community List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 01 Sep 2008 15:22:19 -0000 Francisco Reyes wrote: > Benjamin D Adams writes: > >> I'm trying to change to evolution from thunderbird. >> Is there a script or a tutorial on how to do so? > > What in particular are you trying to convert? > Address book? Emails? > > If you use IMAP emails are on the server. If you are using pop you > could create a second account with imap and copy over the emails. > > Addressbook you usually do an export in the current program to a > format the target program can read. > I'm trying to convert my gmail account over with all the email. (pop) I think if I just create the mail accounts and copy the emails over since they are mbox evolution should read them. Just wondering if anyone else has done this? BSDWorld.NET From owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Sep 5 08:30:22 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4645D1065678 for ; Fri, 5 Sep 2008 08:30:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kris@FreeBSD.org) Received: from [127.0.0.1] (freefall.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::28]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 821B68FC32; Fri, 5 Sep 2008 08:30:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kris@FreeBSD.org) Message-ID: <48C0EE1D.5080809@FreeBSD.org> Date: Fri, 05 Sep 2008 18:00:21 +0930 From: Kris Kennaway User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.16 (Macintosh/20080707) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org References: <20080905023638.U53812@phantom.math.miami.edu> <48C0EB58.4060307@FreeBSD.org> In-Reply-To: <48C0EB58.4060307@FreeBSD.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=GB2312 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: jef moskot Subject: Re: Google Chrome X-BeenThere: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Non technical items related to the community List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 05 Sep 2008 08:30:22 -0000 Kris Kennaway wrote: > jef moskot wrote: >> On Thu, 4 Sep 2008, Ted Mittelstaedt wrote: >>> I must have missed something, how would running the Chrome browser >>> collect our valuable data? >> >> What other purpose would Google have for creating this software? >> Everything Google does is attempt to collect more data, whether it's >> collecting the world's email or convincing corporations, universities, >> private citizens, and everyone else that storing all their documents >> and records on Google servers is a great idea. > > > Whether this browser directly collects more data or simply assists them > > with their other collection methods, there's no other reasonable > > explanation for the creation of the tool. > > The big selling point of this browser is the performance of its > Javascript engine compared to other existing browsers. Javascript is > what is used to run the client side of "web applications"...like Google > Docs, and other Google applications. > > Pushing the development of Javascript is directly tied to google's > ability to launch more complex web-based applications in the future. > > As for google collecting private data, this browser apparently does no > more of that than other existing browsers, according to: > > http://www.mattcutts.com/blog/google-chrome-communication/ Another reason: the javascript engine in chrome is also ported to the ARM architecture, so it will give them better performance on ARM-based google android mobile phones. I'm sure you could think of yet more reasons if you tried ;-) Kris From owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Sep 5 08:46:32 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E41A51065677 for ; Fri, 5 Sep 2008 08:46:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jef@math.miami.edu) Received: from zero.math.miami.edu (zero.math.miami.edu [192.70.171.2]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 95B2E8FC08 for ; Fri, 5 Sep 2008 08:46:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jef@math.miami.edu) Received: from phantom.math.miami.edu (phantom.math.miami.edu [129.171.34.4]) by zero.math.miami.edu (8.13.7/8.13.7) with ESMTP id m858aBEf024205 for ; Fri, 5 Sep 2008 04:36:11 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from jef@math.miami.edu) Date: Fri, 5 Sep 2008 04:36:29 -0400 (EDT) From: jef moskot To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <48C0EB58.4060307@FreeBSD.org> Message-ID: <20080905043545.I64544@phantom.math.miami.edu> References: <20080905023638.U53812@phantom.math.miami.edu> <48C0EB58.4060307@FreeBSD.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Subject: Re: Google Chrome X-BeenThere: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Non technical items related to the community List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 05 Sep 2008 08:46:33 -0000 On Fri, 5 Sep 2008, Kris Kennaway wrote: > The big selling point of this browser is the performance of its > Javascript engine compared to other existing browsers. Javascript is > what is used to run the client side of "web applications"...like Google > Docs, and other Google applications. > > Pushing the development of Javascript is directly tied to google's > ability to launch more complex web-based applications in the future. Yes, and why are they doing THAT? Jeffrey Moskot System Administrator jef@math.miami.edu From owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Sep 5 09:00:51 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 578C71065670 for ; Fri, 5 Sep 2008 09:00:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kris@FreeBSD.org) Received: from [127.0.0.1] (freefall.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::28]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 90DAB8FC13; Fri, 5 Sep 2008 09:00:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kris@FreeBSD.org) Message-ID: <48C0F542.6010600@FreeBSD.org> Date: Fri, 05 Sep 2008 18:30:50 +0930 From: Kris Kennaway User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.16 (Macintosh/20080707) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: jef moskot References: <20080905023638.U53812@phantom.math.miami.edu> <48C0EB58.4060307@FreeBSD.org> <20080905043545.I64544@phantom.math.miami.edu> In-Reply-To: <20080905043545.I64544@phantom.math.miami.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Google Chrome X-BeenThere: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Non technical items related to the community List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 05 Sep 2008 09:00:51 -0000 jef moskot wrote: > On Fri, 5 Sep 2008, Kris Kennaway wrote: >> The big selling point of this browser is the performance of its >> Javascript engine compared to other existing browsers. Javascript is >> what is used to run the client side of "web applications"...like >> Google Docs, and other Google applications. >> >> Pushing the development of Javascript is directly tied to google's >> ability to launch more complex web-based applications in the future. > > Yes, and why are they doing THAT? To make money by increasing their market share in existing markets, developing new markets and directly or indirectly funneling more users into their ads and other revenue sources. If you look at what google has done over the past 5 years, they're about much more than indexing data thesedays. Kris P.S. Full disclosure: I'm soon to start work there. From owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Sep 5 12:08:59 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B491B106567A; Fri, 5 Sep 2008 12:08:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl [IPv6:2001:4070:101:2::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C3C648FC1C; Fri, 5 Sep 2008 12:08:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m85C8o4i008032; Fri, 5 Sep 2008 14:08:50 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from localhost (wojtek@localhost) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.2/8.14.2/Submit) with ESMTP id m85C8ngJ008028; Fri, 5 Sep 2008 14:08:49 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Date: Fri, 5 Sep 2008 14:08:49 +0200 (CEST) From: Wojciech Puchar To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <48C0EB58.4060307@FreeBSD.org> Message-ID: <20080905140820.B8020@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> References: <20080905023638.U53812@phantom.math.miami.edu> <48C0EB58.4060307@FreeBSD.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: jef moskot , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Google Chrome X-BeenThere: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Non technical items related to the community List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 05 Sep 2008 12:08:59 -0000 > As for google collecting private data, this browser apparently does no more > of that than other existing browsers, according to: > > http://www.mattcutts.com/blog/google-chrome-communication/ > of course. they just start.. just wait a bit From owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Sep 6 03:09:04 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2F31E1065684 for ; Sat, 6 Sep 2008 03:09:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kris@FreeBSD.org) Received: from [127.0.0.1] (freefall.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::28]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2B64B8FC17; Sat, 6 Sep 2008 03:09:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kris@FreeBSD.org) Message-ID: <48C1F44F.7030300@FreeBSD.org> Date: Sat, 06 Sep 2008 12:39:03 +0930 From: Kris Kennaway User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.16 (Macintosh/20080707) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Wojciech Puchar References: <20080905023638.U53812@phantom.math.miami.edu> <48C0EB58.4060307@FreeBSD.org> <20080905140820.B8020@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> In-Reply-To: <20080905140820.B8020@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: jef moskot , freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Google Chrome X-BeenThere: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Non technical items related to the community List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 06 Sep 2008 03:09:04 -0000 Wojciech Puchar wrote: >> As for google collecting private data, this browser apparently does no >> more of that than other existing browsers, according to: >> >> http://www.mattcutts.com/blog/google-chrome-communication/ >> > of course. they just start.. just wait a bit It's worth keeping an eye on, but not to the point of paranoia. Think of how much bad publicity would be generated if google was discovered to be secretly collecting data. Kris From owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Sep 6 07:47:02 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E3E28106566B; Sat, 6 Sep 2008 07:47:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl [IPv6:2001:4070:101:2::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D9A5E8FC0A; Sat, 6 Sep 2008 07:47:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m867ksPI020009; Sat, 6 Sep 2008 09:46:54 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from localhost (wojtek@localhost) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.2/8.14.2/Submit) with ESMTP id m867ksJ4020006; Sat, 6 Sep 2008 09:46:54 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Date: Sat, 6 Sep 2008 09:46:54 +0200 (CEST) From: Wojciech Puchar To: Kris Kennaway In-Reply-To: <48C1F44F.7030300@FreeBSD.org> Message-ID: <20080906094507.Q19981@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> References: <20080905023638.U53812@phantom.math.miami.edu> <48C0EB58.4060307@FreeBSD.org> <20080905140820.B8020@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> <48C1F44F.7030300@FreeBSD.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: jef moskot , freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Google Chrome X-BeenThere: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Non technical items related to the community List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 06 Sep 2008 07:47:03 -0000 >>> http://www.mattcutts.com/blog/google-chrome-communication/ >>> >> of course. they just start.. just wait a bit > > It's worth keeping an eye on, but not to the point of paranoia. Think of how > much bad publicity would be generated if google was discovered to be secretly > collecting data. > i don't know if it was discovered or will be, i don't need that discovery, because i'm sure they do. everyone is honest for 100$, most for $1000, very few for $10000, almost nobody for >$1000000, that's wy everybody should avoid LARGE corporation. From owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Sep 6 18:21:00 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0E1B71065670 for ; Sat, 6 Sep 2008 18:21:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kdk@daleco.biz) Received: from ezekiel.daleco.biz (southernuniform.com [66.76.92.18]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AFC238FC18 for ; Sat, 6 Sep 2008 18:20:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kdk@daleco.biz) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ezekiel.daleco.biz (8.14.2/8.13.8) with ESMTP id m86IKwNe044964; Sat, 6 Sep 2008 13:20:58 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from kdk@daleco.biz) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at daleco.biz Received: from ezekiel.daleco.biz ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (ezekiel.daleco.biz [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id UeROXvDA+ylT; Sat, 6 Sep 2008 13:20:49 -0500 (CDT) Received: from archangel.daleco.biz (dsl.daleco.biz [209.125.108.70]) by ezekiel.daleco.biz (8.14.2/8.13.8) with ESMTP id m86IKhRQ044954; Sat, 6 Sep 2008 13:20:43 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from kdk@daleco.biz) Message-ID: <48C2C9F6.30508@daleco.biz> Date: Sat, 06 Sep 2008 13:20:38 -0500 From: Kevin Kinsey User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.8.1.16) Gecko/20080719 SeaMonkey/1.1.11 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Wojciech Puchar References: <20080905023638.U53812@phantom.math.miami.edu> <48C0EB58.4060307@FreeBSD.org> <20080905140820.B8020@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> <48C1F44F.7030300@FreeBSD.org> <20080906094507.Q19981@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> In-Reply-To: <20080906094507.Q19981@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Kris Kennaway , jef moskot , freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Google Chrome X-BeenThere: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Non technical items related to the community List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 06 Sep 2008 18:21:00 -0000 Wojciech Puchar wrote: >>>> http://www.mattcutts.com/blog/google-chrome-communication/ >>>> >>> of course. they just start.. just wait a bit >> >> It's worth keeping an eye on, but not to the point of paranoia. Think >> of how much bad publicity would be generated if google was discovered >> to be secretly collecting data. >> > i don't know if it was discovered or will be, i don't need that > discovery, because i'm sure they do. > > everyone is honest for 100$, most for $1000, very few for $10000, almost > nobody for >$1000000, that's wy everybody should avoid LARGE corporation. So then, business who talk about protecting their "IP" aren't talking about "Internet Protocol", and aren't discussing "Intellectual Property", they are actually making an "Indecent Proposal?" [1] [2] Almost nobody, Kevin Kinsey [1] http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0107211/ [2] No one here is for sale at *any* price. -- This is a test of the emergency broadcast system. Had there been an actual emergency, then you would no longer be here. From owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Sep 6 19:49:44 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0EA38106567B; Sat, 6 Sep 2008 19:49:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl [IPv6:2001:4070:101:2::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1178A8FC1D; Sat, 6 Sep 2008 19:49:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m86Jmlfm004208; Sat, 6 Sep 2008 21:48:47 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from localhost (wojtek@localhost) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.2/8.14.2/Submit) with ESMTP id m86JmiXk004205; Sat, 6 Sep 2008 21:48:44 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Date: Sat, 6 Sep 2008 21:48:44 +0200 (CEST) From: Wojciech Puchar To: Kevin Kinsey In-Reply-To: <48C2C9F6.30508@daleco.biz> Message-ID: <20080906214815.A4204@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> References: <20080905023638.U53812@phantom.math.miami.edu> <48C0EB58.4060307@FreeBSD.org> <20080905140820.B8020@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> <48C1F44F.7030300@FreeBSD.org> <20080906094507.Q19981@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> <48C2C9F6.30508@daleco.biz> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: Kris Kennaway , jef moskot , freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Google Chrome X-BeenThere: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Non technical items related to the community List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 06 Sep 2008 19:49:44 -0000 >> i don't know if it was discovered or will be, i don't need that discovery, >> because i'm sure they do. >> >> everyone is honest for 100$, most for $1000, very few for $10000, almost >> nobody for >$1000000, that's wy everybody should avoid LARGE corporation. > > So then, business who talk about protecting their "IP" > aren't talking about "Internet Protocol", and aren't > discussing "Intellectual Property", they are actually > making an "Indecent Proposal?" [1] [2] in most cases - yes.