From owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Nov 9 21:36:39 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6F3EB106564A for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2008 21:36:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kdk@daleco.biz) Received: from ezekiel.daleco.biz (southernuniform.com [66.76.92.18]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2725C8FC0C for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2008 21:36:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kdk@daleco.biz) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ezekiel.daleco.biz (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id mA9LJb9H084416; Sun, 9 Nov 2008 15:19:37 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from kdk@daleco.biz) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at daleco.biz Received: from ezekiel.daleco.biz ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (ezekiel.daleco.biz [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id r-eFGNx0O1ZP; Sun, 9 Nov 2008 15:19:33 -0600 (CST) Received: from archangel.daleco.biz (ezekiel.daleco.biz [66.76.92.18]) by ezekiel.daleco.biz (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id mA9LJOha084405; Sun, 9 Nov 2008 15:19:25 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from kdk@daleco.biz) Message-ID: <491753DC.8010109@daleco.biz> Date: Sun, 09 Nov 2008 15:19:24 -0600 From: Kevin Kinsey User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.8.1.16) Gecko/20080719 SeaMonkey/1.1.11 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: mdh_lists@yahoo.com References: <475579.68438.qm@web56808.mail.re3.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <475579.68438.qm@web56808.mail.re3.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Frank Shute , freebsd-chat@freebsd.org, david mellick Subject: Re: noob question X-BeenThere: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Non technical items related to the community List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 09 Nov 2008 21:36:39 -0000 mdh wrote: > --- On Tue, 11/4/08, Frank Shute wrote: >> From: Frank Shute >> Subject: Re: noob question >> To: "david mellick" >> Cc: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org >> Date: Tuesday, November 4, 2008, 9:21 PM >> >> A couple of tips for the future: address your questions to >> questions@ >> rather than chat@ and preface your question with the output >> of: >> >> $ uname -rms > > The uname -rms command only works on the HURD operating system. > It returns the current running version of Richard Stallman on stdout. > For FreeBSD users, I suggest the alternate uname -smr command, which > returns their OSname, OSversion, and arch on stdout. > > - mdh Perhaps we should also suggest via pr that `uname -mrs` return your wife's middle name and dates of birthday/anniversary? :-P Kevin Kinsey -- ... [concerning quotation marks] even if we *_d_i_d* quote anybody in this business, it probably would be gibberish. -- Thom McLeod From owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Nov 9 22:16:15 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 485291065673 for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2008 22:16:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from brett@lariat.net) Received: from lariat.net (lariat.net [66.119.58.2]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CBF518FC17 for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2008 22:16:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from brett@lariat.net) Received: from anne-o1dpaayth1.lariat.org (IDENT:ppp1000.lariat.net@lariat.net [66.119.58.2]) by lariat.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA06701; Sun, 9 Nov 2008 14:53:21 -0700 (MST) Message-Id: <200811092153.OAA06701@lariat.net> X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 7.1.0.9 Date: Sun, 09 Nov 2008 14:53:15 -0700 To: mdh_lists@yahoo.com, david mellick , Frank Shute From: Brett Glass In-Reply-To: <475579.68438.qm@web56808.mail.re3.yahoo.com> References: <20081105022105.GA32302@melon.esperance-linux.co.uk> <475579.68438.qm@web56808.mail.re3.yahoo.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Cc: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Subject: Re: noob question X-BeenThere: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Non technical items related to the community List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 09 Nov 2008 22:16:15 -0000 At 07:30 PM 11/4/2008, mdh wrote: >The uname -rms command only works on the HURD operating >system. It returns the current running version of Richard Stallman on stdout. Alas, Richard Stallman crashes frequently and often spews pseudo-random output. >For FreeBSD users, I suggest the alternate uname -smr command, >which returns their OSname, OSversion, and arch on stdout. Or if you're a software pirate, or it's September 19th, you can always post the output of uname -arrrrrrrr --Brett Glass From owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Nov 10 01:36:42 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 54C52106567B for ; Mon, 10 Nov 2008 01:36:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from frank@esperance-linux.co.uk) Received: from mailout.zetnet.co.uk (mailout.zetnet.co.uk [194.247.47.231]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E16408FC18 for ; Mon, 10 Nov 2008 01:36:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from frank@esperance-linux.co.uk) Received: from irwell.zetnet.co.uk ([194.247.47.48] helo=zetnet.co.uk) by mailout.zetnet.co.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1KzLhk-0004wX-Ep; Mon, 10 Nov 2008 01:36:36 +0000 Received: from melon.esperance-linux.co.uk (54-144.adsl.zetnet.co.uk [194.247.54.144]) by zetnet.co.uk (8.14.1/8.14.1/Debian-9) with ESMTP id mAA1aZkM025158; Mon, 10 Nov 2008 01:36:36 GMT Received: by melon.esperance-linux.co.uk (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 950F6FCA4B0; Mon, 10 Nov 2008 01:36:30 +0000 (GMT) Date: Mon, 10 Nov 2008 01:36:30 +0000 From: Frank Shute To: Rada alive Message-ID: <20081110013630.GA54883@melon.esperance-linux.co.uk> Mail-Followup-To: Rada alive , freebsd-chat@freebsd.org References: <20081105022105.GA32302@melon.esperance-linux.co.uk> <475579.68438.qm@web56808.mail.re3.yahoo.com> <20081105063134.GA34055@melon.esperance-linux.co.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Face: *}~{PHnDTzvXPe'wl_-f%!@+r5; VLhb':*DsX%wEOPg\fDrXWQJf|2\,92"DdS%63t*BHDyQ|OWo@Gfjcd72eaN!4%NE{0]p)ihQ1MyFNtWL X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 6.3-RELEASE-p2 i386 X-Organisation: 'http://www.shute.org.uk/' X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-3.0 (zetnet.co.uk [194.247.46.1]); Mon, 10 Nov 2008 01:36:36 +0000 (GMT) Cc: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Subject: Re: noob question X-BeenThere: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Frank Shute List-Id: Non technical items related to the community List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 10 Nov 2008 01:36:42 -0000 On Wed, Nov 05, 2008 at 12:36:31PM +0100, Rada alive wrote: > > On Wed, Nov 5, 2008 at 7:31 AM, Frank Shute wrote: > > > On Tue, Nov 04, 2008 at 06:30:32PM -0800, mdh wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > A couple of tips for the future: address your questions to > > > > questions@ rather than chat@ and preface your question with the > > > > output of: > > > > > > > > $ uname -rms > > > > > > The uname -rms command only works on the HURD operating system. It > > > returns the current running version of Richard Stallman on stdout. > > > For FreeBSD users, I suggest the alternate uname -smr command, which > > > returns their OSname, OSversion, and arch on stdout. > > > > > > > :) > > > > If RMS runs like the HURD, then he's probably suffering from some > > lengthy, terminal disease ;) > > > > FreeBSD should return the OS details for uname -beast > > > > Could be used in send-pr etc. and is easy to remember like -rms! > > > > > > Regards, > > > > What about just using uname -a? uname -a produces output that is > 80 chars wide & a lot of it is irrelevant if a noob is most likely running GENERIC. Just my preference though. Regards, -- Frank Contact info: http://www.shute.org.uk/misc/contact.html From owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Nov 12 18:16:24 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: chat@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 40D321065686 for ; Wed, 12 Nov 2008 18:16:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from brett@lariat.net) Received: from lariat.net (lariat.net [66.119.58.2]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C95288FC18 for ; Wed, 12 Nov 2008 18:16:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from brett@lariat.net) Received: from anne-o1dpaayth1.lariat.org (IDENT:ppp1000.lariat.net@lariat.net [66.119.58.2]) by lariat.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA00502; Wed, 12 Nov 2008 10:59:24 -0700 (MST) Message-Id: <200811121759.KAA00502@lariat.net> X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 7.1.0.9 Date: Wed, 12 Nov 2008 10:59:19 -0700 To: Deb Goodkin , chat@freebsd.org From: Brett Glass In-Reply-To: <491AFC2C.2030107@freebsd.org> References: <491AFC2C.2030107@freebsd.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Cc: Subject: Re: [FreeBSD-Announce] Foundation Project Announcement X-BeenThere: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Non technical items related to the community List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 12 Nov 2008 18:16:24 -0000 [Response to an announcement on the "FreeBSD-Announce" list] I hope that the project mentioned below includes an option to display a message which says, "Put that back!"... so that cached data can be written to the device and its consistency can be maintained. It might also be useful to add error recovery in situations where read-only media (e.g. a CD) is ejected. --Brett At 08:54 AM 11/12/2008, Deb Goodkin wrote: >Dear FreeBSD Community, > >The FreeBSD Foundation is pleased to announce one of the projects from >the accepted project proposals! > >The project is to make FreeBSD tolerate the removal of active disk >devices, such as when a USB flash device with a mounted filesystems is >physically detached by a user. Currently the system may panic in this >situation. The work involves adding proper reference counting to >strategic portions of the kernel and modifying filesystems to properly >handle "device lost" errors. > >Edward Tomasz Napierala is the developer working on this project. > >"We are very excited to be able to fund this project, which we know is >of great interest to our users, especially in the desktop space," said >Robert Watson, president of The FreeBSD Foundation. > >Robert also said, "The removable USB disk causing a crash turns out to >be our #1 reported bug." > >"I am very happy to have the opportunity to work on this exciting >project," said Edward Tomasz Napierala, FreeBSD developer. "It's just >wrong when the system panics because you removed the pendrive!," he added. > >The project will be completed by February 2009. > >Sincerely, > >The FreeBSD Foundation > >_______________________________________________ >freebsd-announce@freebsd.org mailing list >http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-announce >To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-announce-unsubscribe@freebsd.org"