From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 9 10:01:58 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8A156106567A for ; Mon, 9 Jun 2008 10:01:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jcasquero@gmail.com) Received: from yw-out-2324.google.com (yw-out-2324.google.com [74.125.46.31]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 40BAA8FC18 for ; Mon, 9 Jun 2008 10:01:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jcasquero@gmail.com) Received: by yw-out-2324.google.com with SMTP id 9so1017661ywe.13 for ; Mon, 09 Jun 2008 03:01:48 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding :content-disposition; bh=N3uCpMdvCpg90Tz9WDSzaU4VtnXUXVF/2XbIMQSf58M=; b=ccbgMmXgYETCSJk+4gfivB148/5JxH3yQ5KEP4FWNBFTE4WNCm8NGwSKofeK2ZMSM3 45bcwoLo0o3qL0BpMixBJxAEmN5n6uo+xxxAteME7VxQGJ4toPx13KE8Jqo4QW//3TAz zxy+/SHNDJPUiHSC35ScvJNGE1dFavgQw3P5c= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; b=LSkbRv19DvywRP5JPXkfwYWAuylUZaVKN2e69xTO73zyFor232hC5LEcgfotu0frZ2 h9Lh9r+evsyJWTDr/touM94c97KrAf1Ea3XdMYyie1B5cV/XoysOPDzaYNjWe54iTSVv g+4es7s9bDrrSCh/Fp4my0zpapFlai5RBuK2s= Received: by 10.150.154.6 with SMTP id b6mr6010322ybe.28.1213004168211; Mon, 09 Jun 2008 02:36:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.150.185.8 with HTTP; Mon, 9 Jun 2008 02:36:08 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Mon, 9 Jun 2008 11:36:08 +0200 From: "=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Jes=FAs_Casquero?=" To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Subject: FreeBSD 7: i386 or AMD64 install ?? X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 09 Jun 2008 10:01:58 -0000 Hello everybody, I have a question about FreeBSD 7. I have a new laptop (HP Pavillion 6600 series) whose principal function will be programming (Ruby on rails) and a little multimedia and CD,DVD toasting stuff. I have seen there is a FreeBSD/amd64 Project which covers the FreeBSD port to AMD's AMD64 and Intel 64 architecture [1]. The laptop has an Intel Core Duo T8100, 64 bits, processor and 3 GB of memory. Should I install this version or should I switch to the 386 version ? I am looking for good stability compiling with Ruby and enough support of the main devices: Intel Pro 3945 wireless card (through wpi I have read), nvidia driver, etc. These last tips are done with basic funcionality. Is there something that it I have to bear in mind? I have searched the list before posting but I have not found anything definitive Thanks very much in advance. Regards Jesus. [1] http://www.freebsd.org/platforms/amd64.html From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 9 10:26:47 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 25CB31065676 for ; Mon, 9 Jun 2008 10:26:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jcasquero@gmail.com) Received: from yw-out-2324.google.com (yw-out-2324.google.com [74.125.46.30]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CB4808FC13 for ; Mon, 9 Jun 2008 10:26:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jcasquero@gmail.com) Received: by yw-out-2324.google.com with SMTP id 9so1020434ywe.13 for ; Mon, 09 Jun 2008 03:26:40 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=SumXjDdYr3fRzgOelz8Oi9X6IpGY+eb1lsfMeQiz3Ac=; b=euSZvTZDQJmT2eKYdjEN3vMnE9fqQYnFl8bH9tMen1A7h/DgGoxXWOwEj7UDGcLSob O+orH97pDJfDiBp0EI7mYYlfmcO0Fpqb1G+uhf/L5lT2dwpRTZxEKNxMnjrsgXwpa1Jd uUBBUNrwfDSscMOIKH2NO/Otm+hqXYGGT54Wc= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition :references; b=AaJo9119ABL7L+3IuF5T1a0iIcBq8yr6yztIkp47WCgdUqp8cOFrLvckby0zHGQxLM lvxOe2mgwib1lW0pTloTihVqfXwEJkxCysjzq+qtJaIJc/Rckaeh19OuRlB3Tz1oeuFE bBcUQ7oVslMnYQFjSPCoELlDCNcJOHjNmz6IQ= Received: by 10.151.42.9 with SMTP id u9mr6071766ybj.83.1213007199777; Mon, 09 Jun 2008 03:26:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.150.185.8 with HTTP; Mon, 9 Jun 2008 03:26:39 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Mon, 9 Jun 2008 12:26:39 +0200 From: "=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Jes=FAs_Casquero?=" To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <484D036E.9050005@otenet.gr> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline References: <484D036E.9050005@otenet.gr> Subject: Re: FreeBSD 7: i386 or AMD64 install ?? X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 09 Jun 2008 10:26:47 -0000 Thanks very much!. I will install the 32bit version. 2008/6/9 Manolis Kiagias : > > > Jes=FAs Casquero wrote: >> >> Hello everybody, >> >> I have a question about FreeBSD 7. I have a new laptop (HP Pavillion >> 6600 series) whose principal function will be programming (Ruby on >> rails) and a little multimedia and CD,DVD toasting stuff. >> >> I have seen there is a FreeBSD/amd64 Project which covers the >> FreeBSD port to AMD's AMD64 and Intel 64 architecture [1]. The laptop >> has an Intel Core Duo T8100, 64 bits, processor and 3 GB of memory. >> >> Should I install this version or should I switch to the 386 version >> ? I am looking for good stability compiling with Ruby and enough >> support of the main devices: Intel Pro 3945 wireless card (through wpi >> I have read), nvidia driver, etc. These last tips are done with basic >> funcionality. >> >> Is there something that it I have to bear in mind? I have searched >> the list before posting but I have not found anything definitive >> >> Thanks very much in advance. >> Regards >> Jesus. >> >> [1] http://www.freebsd.org/platforms/amd64.html >> >> > > I have a more or less similar laptop. > Notice you will get stuck with the open source "nv" driver. There is no > proprietary nvidia driver for amd64. This will definitely slow down your = X > experience. > The 3945 wireless works, although it does have some random problems > (disconnects, error messages etc.). I suggest you do a test install and s= ee > how it goes. You may have other problems (e.g. ACPI related). CD/DVD burn= ing > should be no problem, and mplayer will probably cover your multimedia nee= ds. > But better test and see. > You could also definitely install the 32bit version which will give you b= est > X performance. > From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 9 11:38:37 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2B6E8106567D for ; Mon, 9 Jun 2008 11:38:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sonicy@otenet.gr) Received: from rosebud.otenet.gr (rosebud.otenet.gr [195.170.0.94]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8CFD38FC12 for ; Mon, 9 Jun 2008 11:38:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sonicy@otenet.gr) Received: from atlantis.dyndns.org (athedsl-4365383.home.otenet.gr [79.130.12.55]) by rosebud.otenet.gr (8.13.8/8.13.8/Debian-3) with ESMTP id m59AIMu2016470; Mon, 9 Jun 2008 13:18:22 +0300 Message-ID: <484D036E.9050005@otenet.gr> Date: Mon, 09 Jun 2008 13:18:22 +0300 From: Manolis Kiagias User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.14 (X11/20080607) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Jes=FAs_Casquero?= References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Cc: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD 7: i386 or AMD64 install ?? X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 09 Jun 2008 11:38:37 -0000 Jesús Casquero wrote: > Hello everybody, > > I have a question about FreeBSD 7. I have a new laptop (HP Pavillion > 6600 series) whose principal function will be programming (Ruby on > rails) and a little multimedia and CD,DVD toasting stuff. > > I have seen there is a FreeBSD/amd64 Project which covers the > FreeBSD port to AMD's AMD64 and Intel 64 architecture [1]. The laptop > has an Intel Core Duo T8100, 64 bits, processor and 3 GB of memory. > > Should I install this version or should I switch to the 386 version > ? I am looking for good stability compiling with Ruby and enough > support of the main devices: Intel Pro 3945 wireless card (through wpi > I have read), nvidia driver, etc. These last tips are done with basic > funcionality. > > Is there something that it I have to bear in mind? I have searched > the list before posting but I have not found anything definitive > > Thanks very much in advance. > Regards > Jesus. > > [1] http://www.freebsd.org/platforms/amd64.html > > I have a more or less similar laptop. Notice you will get stuck with the open source "nv" driver. There is no proprietary nvidia driver for amd64. This will definitely slow down your X experience. The 3945 wireless works, although it does have some random problems (disconnects, error messages etc.). I suggest you do a test install and see how it goes. You may have other problems (e.g. ACPI related). CD/DVD burning should be no problem, and mplayer will probably cover your multimedia needs. But better test and see. You could also definitely install the 32bit version which will give you best X performance. From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 9 17:50:33 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 05BAB10656BB for ; Mon, 9 Jun 2008 17:50:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from torfinn.ingolfsen@broadpark.no) Received: from osl1smout1.broadpark.no (osl1smout1.broadpark.no [80.202.4.58]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B46358FC7B for ; Mon, 9 Jun 2008 17:50:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from torfinn.ingolfsen@broadpark.no) MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Received: from osl1sminn1.broadpark.no ([80.202.4.59]) by osl1smout1.broadpark.no (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 6.3-3.01 (built Jul 12 2007; 32bit)) with ESMTP id <0K2700711IW7RQC0@osl1smout1.broadpark.no> for freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org; Mon, 09 Jun 2008 19:50:31 +0200 (CEST) Received: from kg-work.kg4.no ([80.202.72.251]) by osl1sminn1.broadpark.no (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 6.3-3.01 (built Jul 12 2007; 32bit)) with SMTP id <0K2700MD9IW6DJ20@osl1sminn1.broadpark.no> for freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org; Mon, 09 Jun 2008 19:50:31 +0200 (CEST) Date: Mon, 09 Jun 2008 19:50:30 +0200 From: Torfinn Ingolfsen To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Message-id: <20080609195030.dd00894e.torfinn.ingolfsen@broadpark.no> In-reply-to: References: X-Mailer: Sylpheed 2.4.8 (GTK+ 2.12.9; i386-portbld-freebsd6.3) X-Face: "t9w2,-X@O^I`jVW\sonI3.,36KBLZE*AL[y9lL[PyFD*r_S:dIL9c[8Y>V42R0"!"yb_zN,f#%.[PYYNq; m"_0v; ~rUM2Yy!zmkh)3&U|u!=T(zyv,MHJv"nDH>OJ`t(@mil461d_B'Uo|'nMwlKe0Mv=kvV?Nh@>Hb<3s_z2jYgZhPb@?Wi^x1a~Hplz1.zH Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable Subject: Re: FreeBSD 7: i386 or AMD64 install ?? X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 09 Jun 2008 17:50:33 -0000 On Mon, 09 Jun 2008 11:36:08 +0200 Jes=FAs Casquero wrote: > I have seen there is a FreeBSD/amd64 Project which covers the > FreeBSD port to AMD's AMD64 and Intel 64 architecture [1]. The laptop > has an Intel Core Duo T8100, 64 bits, processor and 3 GB of memory. >=20 > Should I install this version or should I switch to the 386 version > ? I am looking for good stability compiling with Ruby and enough General reccommendation: if your hard drive is large enough, split it in two and install i386 on one partition and amd64 on the other partition. Then you dual-boot and find ut which version suits your best. --=20 Regards, Torfinn Ingolfsen From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jun 10 07:27:31 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A806C1065672 for ; Tue, 10 Jun 2008 07:27:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jcasquero@gmail.com) Received: from yw-out-2324.google.com (yw-out-2324.google.com [74.125.46.31]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5DB948FC1F for ; Tue, 10 Jun 2008 07:27:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jcasquero@gmail.com) Received: by yw-out-2324.google.com with SMTP id 9so1253484ywe.13 for ; Tue, 10 Jun 2008 00:27:30 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=57FfCgWgMP/6JR5zNrm5SFYtoH4y7QGep6dj9JrIdZs=; b=UeMChUWip40g4dWYD7raIiGnhKX+L3kcaE/Oi9iJU+RhT0pG2RYVilWr3JY9evmZDN mU20vslixFWBKkdBvL8fPr+30o//uyYq4h5vw48lITNHZ75+NF11Cf+7A/GG/HIKpnrz KvG+VlE4J0AE7PTGwd1Bi/uvPu5BFfpsF4q5s= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition :references; b=AcquIU9lN9a6nB2mV29e5KmJhwCBCq2OWa64DPefET9GJSO6JR0SavNBv/JEZ2DH3L I2yu1UWFOxA7A9vE/hZnlcj8qZ/EuESVLna6Tr8ZYWdM5uDB30l8+XkkMUmSKPvg2zjq ElmZyXHUvWt8BqS797AXDv8Lkdavi+YzdX+pM= Received: by 10.151.150.13 with SMTP id c13mr7936269ybo.32.1213082850600; Tue, 10 Jun 2008 00:27:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.150.185.8 with HTTP; Tue, 10 Jun 2008 00:27:30 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2008 09:27:30 +0200 From: "=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Jes=FAs_Casquero?=" To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <200806091502.42813.asstec@matik.com.br> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline References: <200806091502.42813.asstec@matik.com.br> Subject: Re: FreeBSD 7: i386 or AMD64 install ?? X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2008 07:27:31 -0000 Thanks very much ! :) 2008/6/9 AT Matik : > On Monday 09 June 2008 06:36:08 you wrote: >> Hello everybody, >> >> I have a question about FreeBSD 7. I have a new laptop (HP Pavillion >> 6600 series) whose principal function will be programming (Ruby on >> rails) and a little multimedia and CD,DVD toasting stuff. >> >> I have seen there is a FreeBSD/amd64 Project which covers the >> FreeBSD port to AMD's AMD64 and Intel 64 architecture [1]. The laptop >> has an Intel Core Duo T8100, 64 bits, processor and 3 GB of memory. >> >> Should I install this version or should I switch to the 386 version >> ? I am looking for good stability compiling with Ruby and enough >> support of the main devices: Intel Pro 3945 wireless card (through wpi >> I have read), nvidia driver, etc. These last tips are done with basic >> funcionality. >> >> Is there something that it I have to bear in mind? I have searched >> the list before posting but I have not found anything definitive >> > > Hi J > you should use i386 because for laptop/desktop use amd64 is not good > specially in your case the nv video drievr is shit and hangs the machien = trice > a day and the other point, most java applets are bad, faulty or do not wo= rk > (Online banking) and thinks like flash and so also not ... so do not wast > your time :) > > Jo=E3o > > > > -- > > Atenciosamente > > Infomatik Internet Technology > > -- > > Atenciosamente, J.M. > Respons=E1vel Plant=E3o Site Support Matik > Infomatik Internet Technology > (18)3551.8155 (18)8112.7007 > http://info.matik.com.br > > > > > > > > A mensagem foi scaneada pelo sistema de e-mail e pode ser considerada seg= ura. > Service fornecido pelo Datacenter Matik https://datacenter.matik.com.br >