From owner-freebsd-arch@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Dec 7 11:06:50 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-arch@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7CBF0106568D for ; Mon, 7 Dec 2009 11:06:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from owner-bugmaster@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::28]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 512058FC1D for ; Mon, 7 Dec 2009 11:06:50 +0000 (UTC) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id nB7B6o9s068411 for ; Mon, 7 Dec 2009 11:06:50 GMT (envelope-from owner-bugmaster@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) id nB7B6nqX068409 for freebsd-arch@FreeBSD.org; Mon, 7 Dec 2009 11:06:49 GMT (envelope-from owner-bugmaster@FreeBSD.org) Date: Mon, 7 Dec 2009 11:06:49 GMT Message-Id: <200912071106.nB7B6nqX068409@freefall.freebsd.org> X-Authentication-Warning: freefall.freebsd.org: gnats set sender to owner-bugmaster@FreeBSD.org using -f From: FreeBSD bugmaster To: freebsd-arch@FreeBSD.org Cc: Subject: Current problem reports assigned to freebsd-arch@FreeBSD.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-arch@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion related to FreeBSD architecture List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 07 Dec 2009 11:06:50 -0000 Note: to view an individual PR, use: http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=(number). The following is a listing of current problems submitted by FreeBSD users. These represent problem reports covering all versions including experimental development code and obsolete releases. S Tracker Resp. Description -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- o kern/120749 arch [request] Suggest upping the default kern.ps_arg_cache 1 problem total. From owner-freebsd-arch@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 8 22:12:36 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-arch@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6AC501065693 for ; Tue, 8 Dec 2009 22:12:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from diminished5@gmail.com) Received: from mail-yx0-f171.google.com (mail-yx0-f171.google.com [209.85.210.171]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4F6548FC21 for ; Tue, 8 Dec 2009 22:12:34 +0000 (UTC) Received: by yxe1 with SMTP id 1so5443879yxe.3 for ; Tue, 08 Dec 2009 14:12:34 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:mime-version:subject:date :x-mailer; bh=WBuY0lZrS1DiVAlfVE0c8wcH4vW5ntHsiAOMwL4tOUo=; b=GrQUtCpYu6M1TSjM08879gvaqVARaxgfKBgX0lT7ZSDtaDu4Ny38ppMnAd+XjI6v2W nJhdj4IRCPuN33/RvuhzwBbx3oCWsBZSMhkLhdCix7bt81aWEz6A4ixhHA/lcleF9/iO gMV9781vlG+m3jubxFYN9VY4kkUo1okrPp2ms= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:from:to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding :mime-version:subject:date:x-mailer; b=NSJLARhwb0lOhUFLkOvhfUddJUHZ4J4CoIsUWNSL0qfRrQlymuYarfPQZV/UWlA1tD FZGWki1pL0ff8bT+aU5tq++2Zj68BZc9weGrWAw3df2gMo7PCC3jh0+XG/t6VBxCwWRm ezGWcZCTegHPKjNAh3Yzt0RnjUVMIYy47JBJc= Received: by 10.101.129.31 with SMTP id g31mr7223792ann.153.1260308496276; Tue, 08 Dec 2009 13:41:36 -0800 (PST) Received: from Macintosh-4.domain (pool-71-108-6-192.lsanca.dsl-w.verizon.net [71.108.6.192]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 5sm3185207yxg.28.2009.12.08.13.41.34 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Tue, 08 Dec 2009 13:41:35 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <1477185D-8639-4E54-9FF7-BA5F9D1B78CD@gmail.com> From: Roger Agraviador To: freebsd-arch@FreeBSD.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v936) Date: Tue, 8 Dec 2009 13:40:03 -0800 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.936) Cc: Subject: Inquiry about the 7.2 release CD/DVD X-BeenThere: freebsd-arch@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion related to FreeBSD architecture List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 08 Dec 2009 22:12:36 -0000 Hi! I am quite new to BSD (Open source OS'es in general) and would like to try the 7.2 release, If I where to purchase a copy would it be possible to use it in several computers with different processors? Since I am planning to make a computer with an AMD Athlon II 64, and If I am happy with it, i'd like to share it with my relatives and friends if that is possible or would sharing violate any legal rights and licenses? Thank you, Roger From owner-freebsd-arch@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 8 22:58:01 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-arch@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4B6EF106566C for ; Tue, 8 Dec 2009 22:58:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jhs@berklix.com) Received: from tower.berklix.org (tower.berklix.org [83.236.223.114]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7DBC58FC18 for ; Tue, 8 Dec 2009 22:58:00 +0000 (UTC) Received: from park.js.berklix.net (p549A7B2A.dip.t-dialin.net [84.154.123.42]) (authenticated bits=0) by tower.berklix.org (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id nB8Mvu2l073387; Tue, 8 Dec 2009 22:57:58 GMT (envelope-from jhs@berklix.com) Received: from fire.js.berklix.net (fire.js.berklix.net [192.168.91.41]) by park.js.berklix.net (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id nB8Mw5Ml067709; Tue, 8 Dec 2009 23:58:05 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from jhs@berklix.com) Received: from fire.js.berklix.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by fire.js.berklix.net (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id nB8MvthX038427; Tue, 8 Dec 2009 23:58:00 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from jhs@fire.js.berklix.net) Message-Id: <200912082258.nB8MvthX038427@fire.js.berklix.net> To: Roger Agraviador From: "Julian H. Stacey" Organization: http://www.berklix.com BSD Unix Linux Consultancy, Munich Germany User-agent: EXMH on FreeBSD http://www.berklix.com/free/ X-URL: http://www.berklix.com In-reply-to: Your message "Tue, 08 Dec 2009 13:40:03 PST." <1477185D-8639-4E54-9FF7-BA5F9D1B78CD@gmail.com> Date: Tue, 08 Dec 2009 23:57:55 +0100 Sender: jhs@berklix.com Cc: freebsd-arch@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Inquiry about the 7.2 release CD/DVD X-BeenThere: freebsd-arch@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion related to FreeBSD architecture List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 08 Dec 2009 22:58:01 -0000 Roger Agraviador wrote: > Hi! > I am quite new to BSD (Open source OS'es in general) This arch@ list is for complex advanced questions, so please send future simple beginner questions to questions@freebsd.org. > and would like to > try the 7.2 release, 8.0 is out now too, if you'r feeling adventurous. > If I where to purchase a copy would it be > possible to use it in several computers with different processors? The DVDs that freebsd.org offer free for download are for one CPU only. (though both i386 & amd64 DVDs & CDs will run on amd64 CPU). > Since I am planning to make a computer with an AMD Athlon II 64, and > If I am happy with it, i'd like to share it with my relatives and > friends if that is possible or would sharing violate any legal rights > and licenses? FreeBSD would like you to give FreeBSD free to lots of people :-) You can download the generic FreeBSD DVDs, burn them, copy them, sell them even. Read the 6K Coyright in /usr/src/COPYRIGHT which one might summarise crudely as: "Do what you want, but don't blame us" :-) http://www.freebsd.org also lists some commercial vendors of DVDs, If you choose to buy those discs rather than download & burn the free ones direct from http://www.freebsd.orgm then an additional agregation copyright may apply from the agregator firm, in which case for those, you may not be entitled to make copies of the DVD image, but are entitled to make unlimited copies of source code from FreeBSD. The individual extra 20,918 ported packages have a myriad of different licences, depending which ones you want to add. Please read http://www.freebsd.org & use questions@freebsd.org Cheers, Julian -- Julian Stacey: BSD Unix Linux C Sys Eng Consultants Munich http://berklix.com Mail plain text not quoted-printable, HTML or Base64: http://asciiribbon.org From owner-freebsd-arch@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 8 22:59:05 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-arch@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 49F551065672 for ; Tue, 8 Dec 2009 22:59:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from 000.fbsd@quip.cz) Received: from elsa.codelab.cz (elsa.codelab.cz [94.124.105.4]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0728E8FC08 for ; Tue, 8 Dec 2009 22:59:04 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost (localhost.codelab.cz [127.0.0.1]) by elsa.codelab.cz (Postfix) with ESMTP id D0EB419E045; Tue, 8 Dec 2009 23:43:16 +0100 (CET) Received: from [192.168.1.2] (r5bb235.net.upc.cz [86.49.61.235]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by elsa.codelab.cz (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 9B77119E044; Tue, 8 Dec 2009 23:43:14 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <4B1ED682.60205@quip.cz> Date: Tue, 08 Dec 2009 23:43:14 +0100 From: Miroslav Lachman <000.fbsd@quip.cz> User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.0; en-US; rv:1.9.1.4) Gecko/20091017 SeaMonkey/2.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Roger Agraviador References: <1477185D-8639-4E54-9FF7-BA5F9D1B78CD@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <1477185D-8639-4E54-9FF7-BA5F9D1B78CD@gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-arch@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: Inquiry about the 7.2 release CD/DVD X-BeenThere: freebsd-arch@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion related to FreeBSD architecture List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 08 Dec 2009 22:59:05 -0000 Roger Agraviador wrote: > Hi! > > I am quite new to BSD (Open source OS'es in general) and would like to > try the 7.2 release, If I where to purchase a copy would it be possible > to use it in several computers with different processors? Since I am > planning to make a computer with an AMD Athlon II 64, and If I am happy > with it, i'd like to share it with my relatives and friends if that is > possible or would sharing violate any legal rights and licenses? All FreeBSD releases are freely available for download as ISO images. You can download them, burn them and share them with anybody you want. The only thing you need to be aware of is the processor type. If you what to run 32bit OS, you need i386 ISO image / CD. If you want 64bit OS, you need amd64 ISO / CD. (there are images for alpha, ia64, pc98, powerpc and sparc64 too) ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/ FreeBSD is made under BSD license: http://www.freebsd.org/copyright/freebsd-license.html Miroslav Lachman From owner-freebsd-arch@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Dec 9 01:26:45 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-arch@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0EA0C106566C for ; Wed, 9 Dec 2009 01:26:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dougb@FreeBSD.org) Received: from mail2.fluidhosting.com (mx21.fluidhosting.com [204.14.89.4]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 92D038FC12 for ; Wed, 9 Dec 2009 01:26:44 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 27254 invoked by uid 399); 9 Dec 2009 01:00:03 -0000 Received: from localhost (HELO ?192.168.0.110?) (dougb@dougbarton.us@127.0.0.1) by localhost with ESMTPAM; 9 Dec 2009 01:00:03 -0000 X-Originating-IP: 127.0.0.1 X-Sender: dougb@dougbarton.us Message-ID: <4B1EF693.5000703@FreeBSD.org> Date: Tue, 08 Dec 2009 17:00:03 -0800 From: Doug Barton Organization: http://SupersetSolutions.com/ User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (X11/20091206) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Julian H. Stacey" References: <200912082258.nB8MvthX038427@fire.js.berklix.net> In-Reply-To: <200912082258.nB8MvthX038427@fire.js.berklix.net> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.96.0 OpenPGP: id=D5B2F0FB Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Roger Agraviador , freebsd-arch@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Inquiry about the 7.2 release CD/DVD X-BeenThere: freebsd-arch@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion related to FreeBSD architecture List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 09 Dec 2009 01:26:45 -0000 Julian H. Stacey wrote: > Roger Agraviador wrote: >> Hi! >> I am quite new to BSD (Open source OS'es in general) > > This arch@ list is for complex advanced questions, so please send > future simple beginner questions to questions@freebsd.org. A more friendly way to say that would be, "If you're not sure where to send a question about FreeBSD freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org is always a safe bet." :) We were all beginners once, and we like to encourage them as much as possible. Doug -- Improve the effectiveness of your Internet presence with a domain name makeover! http://SupersetSolutions.com/ From owner-freebsd-arch@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Dec 9 19:46:15 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-arch@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F3377106566C; Wed, 9 Dec 2009 19:46:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jhs@berklix.com) Received: from tower.berklix.org (tower.berklix.org [83.236.223.114]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7B1038FC15; Wed, 9 Dec 2009 19:46:14 +0000 (UTC) Received: from park.js.berklix.net (p549A31EB.dip.t-dialin.net [84.154.49.235]) (authenticated bits=0) by tower.berklix.org (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id nB9JkCmt094822; Wed, 9 Dec 2009 19:46:12 GMT (envelope-from jhs@berklix.com) Received: from fire.js.berklix.net (fire.js.berklix.net [192.168.91.41]) by park.js.berklix.net (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id nB9Jk70k073654; Wed, 9 Dec 2009 20:46:07 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from jhs@berklix.com) Received: from fire.js.berklix.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by fire.js.berklix.net (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id nB9JjvE0051738; Wed, 9 Dec 2009 20:46:02 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from jhs@fire.js.berklix.net) Message-Id: <200912091946.nB9JjvE0051738@fire.js.berklix.net> To: Doug Barton From: "Julian H. Stacey" Organization: http://www.berklix.com BSD Unix Linux Consultancy, Munich Germany User-agent: EXMH on FreeBSD http://www.berklix.com/free/ X-URL: http://www.berklix.com In-reply-to: Your message "Tue, 08 Dec 2009 17:00:03 PST." <4B1EF693.5000703@FreeBSD.org> Date: Wed, 09 Dec 2009 20:45:57 +0100 Sender: jhs@berklix.com Cc: Roger Agraviador , freebsd-arch@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Inquiry about the 7.2 release CD/DVD X-BeenThere: freebsd-arch@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion related to FreeBSD architecture List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 09 Dec 2009 19:46:15 -0000 Doug Barton wrote: > Julian H. Stacey wrote: > > Roger Agraviador wrote: > >> Hi! > >> I am quite new to BSD (Open source OS'es in general) > > > > This arch@ list is for complex advanced questions, so please send > > future simple beginner questions to questions@freebsd.org. > > A more friendly way to say that would be, "If you're not sure where to > send a question about FreeBSD freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org is always > a safe bet." :) > > We were all beginners once, and we like to encourage them as much as > possible. Doug did not answer Roger. I took time so Roger would get an answer, while saving time of specialists on @arch who didn't need to lose time answering simple questions. Criticism off list please. Cheers, Julian -- Julian Stacey: BSD Unix Linux C Sys Eng Consultants Munich http://berklix.com Mail plain text not quoted-printable, HTML or Base64: http://asciiribbon.org From owner-freebsd-arch@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Dec 10 10:02:13 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-arch@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 802281065670; Thu, 10 Dec 2009 10:02:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mavbsd@gmail.com) Received: from mail-fx0-f209.google.com (mail-fx0-f209.google.com [209.85.220.209]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D4FF38FC17; Thu, 10 Dec 2009 10:02:12 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-fx0-f209.google.com with SMTP id 2so1296758fxm.13 for ; Thu, 10 Dec 2009 02:02:12 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:sender:message-id:date:from :user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references:in-reply-to :x-enigmail-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=f+/AG5loYrdUKclFmBpM9iOpQlAo3DOrD5IFhjYpTP8=; b=WmzEJF+nRFnyByxG5LGVT6w3TT1dKyRFdib5RxUMTkKGgmpMiiYl5KKRZUR4Lzd9o5 FjVqxPPw8KyaoRHvq4KfyJu5W8GrplWwt3GgyL3/X57cYuWejK2fCtY9sLfMnrLJPa17 e8ZeEaGZ6l/tzTfyuqSAF793xprb2zuWIY4KI= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=sender:message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject :references:in-reply-to:x-enigmail-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; b=LZqjWcwpGenoryXvWrxF6hCNsv8LDfPi1GxZ40OVP8JUYPPGaG1UkbqoT3lA3N6ssg HUPVcXtUdlMaaTduatwDFolbHS3Gtt7MmeFqhcMbGOsJbZOHMeBZfE+DVuRC4yRt7ePQ AEByJeCvzRUZp3df04maNoBQxQPGWf99clQFY= Received: by 10.223.68.155 with SMTP id v27mr3054036fai.10.1260439332258; Thu, 10 Dec 2009 02:02:12 -0800 (PST) Received: from mavbook.mavhome.dp.ua (pc.mavhome.dp.ua [212.86.226.226]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 14sm249017fxm.15.2009.12.10.02.02.10 (version=SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Thu, 10 Dec 2009 02:02:10 -0800 (PST) Sender: Alexander Motin Message-ID: <4B20C720.6080105@FreeBSD.org> Date: Thu, 10 Dec 2009 12:02:08 +0200 From: Alexander Motin User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (X11/20090901) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: FreeBSD-Current , freebsd-arch@freebsd.org References: <4B1671EE.1010301@FreeBSD.org> In-Reply-To: <4B1671EE.1010301@FreeBSD.org> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.96.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=KOI8-R Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Subject: Re: Testing CAM wrapper for ata(4) controller drivers X-BeenThere: freebsd-arch@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion related to FreeBSD architecture List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 10 Dec 2009 10:02:13 -0000 Alexander Motin wrote: > The main regression of the new mode is a lack of ataraid alternative, to > support cheap BIOS-based ATA RAIDs. If somebody has time and wish to > port that code from inside ata(4) into GEOM module, to make it work over > CAM also, I would appreciate that and propose a help, if needed. May be it would be easier to just teach gmirror, gstripe and gconcat to handle ATA RAIDs metadata formats, to not duplicate and support the rest of code. -- Alexander Motin From owner-freebsd-arch@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Dec 10 14:46:03 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-arch@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 48BCD1065679 for ; Thu, 10 Dec 2009 14:46:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from scottl@samsco.org) Received: from pooker.samsco.org (pooker.samsco.org [168.103.85.57]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F3F408FC19 for ; Thu, 10 Dec 2009 14:46:02 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [IPv6:::1] (pooker.samsco.org [168.103.85.57]) (authenticated bits=0) by pooker.samsco.org (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id nBAEVfaP043891; Thu, 10 Dec 2009 07:31:41 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from scottl@samsco.org) Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1076) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed; delsp=yes From: Scott Long In-Reply-To: <4B20C720.6080105@FreeBSD.org> Date: Thu, 10 Dec 2009 07:31:41 -0700 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <914B9BC0-7C9D-41F1-9929-046E39C5B31C@samsco.org> References: <4B1671EE.1010301@FreeBSD.org> <4B20C720.6080105@FreeBSD.org> To: Alexander Motin X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1076) X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.4 required=3.8 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=3.1.8 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.8 (2007-02-13) on pooker.samsco.org Cc: FreeBSD-Current , freebsd-arch@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Testing CAM wrapper for ata(4) controller drivers X-BeenThere: freebsd-arch@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion related to FreeBSD architecture List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 10 Dec 2009 14:46:03 -0000 On Dec 10, 2009, at 3:02 AM, Alexander Motin wrote: > Alexander Motin wrote: >> The main regression of the new mode is a lack of ataraid >> alternative, to >> support cheap BIOS-based ATA RAIDs. If somebody has time and wish to >> port that code from inside ata(4) into GEOM module, to make it work >> over >> CAM also, I would appreciate that and propose a help, if needed. > > May be it would be easier to just teach gmirror, gstripe and gconcat > to > handle ATA RAIDs metadata formats, to not duplicate and support the > rest > of code. > The existing graid modules are not well suited for learning new metadata. I have plans for restructuring them into a stack within GEOM that handles metadata separate from the transforms. Scott